Andrew Wilson! DRAMA! Bratty Gamer Girl?! E-GIRLS! Born Again VlRGlN?! | Dating Talk #150
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In this episode of the Whatever Dating Talk Podcast, we introduce ourselves to our first guest, Alicia Megan, a former Air Force veteran and celebrity boxer, who tells us about her experience as a stripper and what it's like being in the entertainment industry.
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whatever podcast without further ado we're going to have the guests introduce themselves so please
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tell us your name age location and occupation go ahead okay so my name is payton i'm from rancho
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cucamonga california currently i'm a medical assistant i'm studying nursing at cal state channel islands
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age 19 all right welcome what about you my name is vesper i'm 24 i'm from dallas i'm a stripper and
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an only fans girl and a student all right welcome hi i'm asia i'm 21 i'm originally from jersey but
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i'm a student here at ucsb age oh did you say 20 sorry hi i'm crystal i'm 29 i'm from los andes
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california and i'm a stripper okay welcome alicia megan 34 air force veteran and celebrity boxer
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um social media influencer who did you um have you had multiple matches or just one or how many
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one my first pro fight is coming up in may and i fought black china so but it was with headgear this
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one's gonna be no headgear who the fuck is that guy wait who who's black china you don't know black
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china i've heard her name once she had rob kardashian's baby um she's like oh yeah she's uh
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kind of well known in the celebrity she a rapper or what she was a rapper she was a stripper she
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found god we're friends now obviously she doesn't rap anymore i don't think so i haven't heard did you
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um did you win yes it was a draw but i won every round the only reason i didn't is because of who
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she was she just lost a lawsuit of 100 million dollars against the kardashians so the judge told
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me after the fight he was like we could have never let you win even though she was on the ground three
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times wait what i'm not familiar it was fixed i'm sorry it was fixed yeah it was fixed i didn't know
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that thank god i didn't know that because i was fighting my demons out there wait so hold on why is
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she getting sued for or why was she getting sued for 100 million dollars i think it had something to
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do with her tv show she wanted more money because she was on one of their tv shows and then she didn't
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win it now they're all good now i heard something like that oh i don't keep up with it but okay you
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don't keep up with the kardashians okay what about you yeah i'm natalia um i'm from seattle washington
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uh i go to channel islands university now and i'm a business major age um a few days away from 19.
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all right welcome all right my name is britney delamora i just turned 37 years old on april fool's
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day uh i run a ministry with my husband called love always ministries.com uh we help people who
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are addicted to pornography stop watching porn we also help industry workers who want to transition
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out um just we bridge that gap for them i was in the adult film industry for seven years of my life so
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i'm very passionate about it i've been out for 12 years um and i've just made it my mission to help
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women and help people that are addicted to porn wait so you have a ministry yeah are you uh what are
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you like a pastor or what uh i was ordained but i don't necessarily i mean i pastored at our church
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in san diego i was ordained alongside my husband um but i'm not currently pastoring and i wouldn't
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necessarily call myself a pastor but i definitely have a heart for people okay um and i love people
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deeply wait who uh who ordained you uh our old pastor pastor sergio in san diego pastor in your
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church yeah he's a pastor and he ordained you as a minister yes he did heart revolution church in san
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diego gotcha hi i'm sunny and i am an adventure photographer and wilderness guide and survivalist
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um yeah i do a little bit of extreme stuff here and there but this is the most intimidating thing
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i've done yet i think so age i'm 34 and you were recently on a tv show correct i was i'm a survivalist
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for discovery channel uh known as naked and afraid so only six canadians have ever completed that
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challenge and i have made mine my episode aired march 17th actually um so yeah if you guys like to see
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secondhand fun feel free to check it out because it is it's awful and the the show they pair you up
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it's typically a man and a woman paired up together naked and afraid typically but it's been changing
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around a lot so they've done mentor challenge uh challenges where it was a woman's tribe which was
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really cool uh in our season they've done where it's two men two women and they meet up halfway through
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the challenge i was paired with a green beret from the uk who's also a seer instructor and he is like
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special forces so they had to give him translation at the bottom for his accent it was kind of funny
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yeah i saw a couple of the clips it was fairly pretty thick accent and so you're basically you're
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fully nude the man and the woman surviving where where were you were you i was in the heart of the
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colombian jungle the heart of the colombian jungle yeah and uh how long was the whole process 21 days
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21 days 21 days you're there alone at night we had a puma come into our camp and stick its face in
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my partner's face that was fun um but yeah it is just full suffering you go as much as you can back
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to your primitive roots and all you have is like a knife and a fire starter and everything else you
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have to learn to get from the land and adapt which is just wild can you opt out at any time though
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like if you're just like this yeah somebody rescue me yeah you can do it most people tap out within
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the first six days uh we actually had apparently one person uh get on the boat about to go into the
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jungle and was like no no thanks wow okay cool and then uh andrew yeah my name is andrew wilson i'm
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the host of the crucible fastest growing debate channel to my knowledge anywhere on the internet
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from blood sport debater um and i also do all sorts of conversations like this like to thank
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whatever podcast for having me back on appreciate it very much and to their audience and to the ladies
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hope we have a productive conversation this evening welcome oh there he is watch this he's lighting up
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is it marble what they're the cow the cowboy killers marlboro reds there you go there you go we're
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gonna go around the table once more so what is everybody's current relationship status so
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are you single talking stage situationship friends with benefits relationship married poly cool sex
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cult whatever it may be if uh if you're single how long have you been single and what's the longest
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relationship you've ever been in starting with you go ahead single about over a year now the longest
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relationship i've been in is six months six months okay what about you i'm engaged and the longest
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relationship i've been in was about four years is that your current relationship no uh how long
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have you been seeing your current uh fiance about two and a half years 2.5 years okay and i think in
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your pre-show messages you said there was a uh a decent uh age gap in the relationship he's 17 years
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older than me so you're 24 and so he's 41 41 okay busted out the math real quick on that one that was good
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okay what about you i'm single um i have been for around like six months and my longest relationship
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was a year and a half all right longest relationship a year and a half and was that the one that ended six
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months ago no okay that's a different one different one and then what about you was your six month
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relationship the one that ended you said you've been single for one year is that the one from one year
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ago um it was more of my junior year of high school so definitely over a year got it um yeah okay what
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about you i'm in a relationship i've been in that relationship for a year now and my longest
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relationship was four years did you guys meet at the club we did was he a customer um your boyfriend
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boyfriend right yes my boyfriend he was not my customer i like he never spent money on me but does that
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bother you that doesn't that didn't bother you he did like eventually but not like i met him through
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another customer that i like made friends with and then would it have been better or worse
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had he been your customer i don't think i would have dated him if he was your customer yeah okay
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interesting but he was a customer of somebody else's yeah at the club okay all right what about you um i have
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been in a relationship with jesus since i went to detox march 2022 and obviously celibate
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just gave my life to like rededicated my life to christ so that's the best relationship you can have
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it'll never break your heart ladies yeah wait so you're gonna become a nun no i'm just i'm just in
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a place where i'm still healing and i don't need a man right now i'm just god's gonna make it happen
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and it's i'm not rushed or pressed about it so do i put down i got a thing i write down do i put single
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are you dating jesus i don't know how long have you been dating jesus since 2022
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so for like two years you'd say single for two years yeah so when did you convert
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uh so i was always christian well first i was catholic which is very religious and then i was
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southern baptist which is also very religious and it's more uh it's not about being a catholic to a
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southern baptist yes i know intense everything i do is intense and then um now i'm christian which is
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not a religion it's a relationship with christ and that's what we're missing because religion
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separates condemns and that's not why jesus even came here and if we all what wait wait
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well she means like lawful like that she's not it's not a it's not a religion no it's a relationship
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with god it's a bible so it's a relationship with god christianity christianity is the bible
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no but it's a relationship with god i don't think that it is actually like religion is the problem
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so i don't i don't understand okay okay by definition it's a religion but she's saying
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that like being a baptist it came with a whole set of laws like you know you're more so trying
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to live up to the law but jesus died because none of us can actually live up to the law we need his
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grace so she's saying she used to follow a lot of laws but now she's following intimacy with jesus
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amen if that you know um she can talk so anyway so back back to you if you don't mind um i'd like
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to like to kind of get into this with you so i understand your world view um nothing i'm not not
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going for you nothing like that i just want to understand so yeah um if we can back up just a
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little bit you started out as a catholic correct yes i went to mass every morning i was a kid my
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parents kind of just said go to church we all went to church it was you know when you're a kid
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you're being told what to do how did you veer over to southern baptism uh they actually came to our door
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and said hey this is what we believe and my parents then converted and then we did so it was more of
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like what our family wanted and then um yeah i went to church three times a week i used to have a long
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skirt knock door to door like if you died at night will you go to heaven very intense um
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upbringing religious wise okay got it so then uh moving over from there you get into your career
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your sex work career correct i'm sorry you did you i'm sorry if i get this wrong uh i was taking notes
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but i want to make sure you did have a career in some kind of uh sex work is that right so i was in
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the military um for nine years and then once i got out of the military i did join only fans um okay i
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did not actually do like porn but i did you know still show my body online and did you consider that
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a violation of your christian values when you did that yeah i mean i was heavily heavily medicated on
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perks i didn't want to we can say i think we i did not want to be on this earth um and so that really
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played a big role into it i went away from god um and i was an addict at that point at 28 years
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old i became an addict and how long um how long did you do the only fans career um since 2019 i got
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out of it just this in january this year okay so you would say that you made your headway back to
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christianity and what made you do that well a part of it was i got sober that's a big part of it and then
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also i would go to the meetings that they have i'm sure you guys know about the 12-step program
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and then i realized the only way to get sober is to really and even the program itself was built on
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the bible and that's when i went back to my roots you mean the 12-step program yes it was basically
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built from the bible um but it's a non-religious um program and so the more i dug in the more i became
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in love with jesus my faith and yeah i just see the world completely different my perspective he
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changed everything for me so if you had to assign your brand of christianity then are you going to
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assign your brand of christianity as non-denominational theistic but non-religious is that basically how
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you're framing i would say non-denominational yeah yeah but also not religious yes okay so how how can
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you follow a religion if you're not in in the religion i'm confused about this so it's a relationship
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you give your life to christ and then you have a church obviously a community that reads the bible
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and that's the relationship that's the religion so but to each so then there are things that you have
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to do in order to adhere to the religious teachings of jesus christ to qualify you as a christian right
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well you come right as you are there's no you have to be this person you have to like he took me in
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when i was so broken he can't work with people who have pride all these different things so um i would
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say of course the closer you get with god the more you don't want to do those things like i recently
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just cleaned up my ig i recently went through my closet and i was like i can't wear some of this stuff
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so it's a process it's not like you you find jesus and then you're holy the next day like
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slowly he'll start convicting you of things but it's never from condemnation yeah no i i get that
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but what i'm trying to figure out here is you do believe that there is criteria to be a christian right
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i mean read the bible be christ that's that's the only criteria i mean the bible religion is the book
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um i just think it's more of a relationship with god i think the second you put religion on it it's
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it's just a different thing so yeah well because it when you when you adhere to it as a religion then
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you have to have accountability right okay so i'll say i'll say non-denominational
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yeah but it is a religion religion yes yeah and it's necessary that you adhere to the rigorism of
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that religion so that you're accountable for the things that you do right i mean jesus holds you
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accountable there's no people that are holding yeah no no people can hold you accountable you know
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what righteous judgment is and there's no reason that people can't hold other people accountable who
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are christians absurd to say that you can't right yeah yeah so all right i just wanted to get all
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that clarified i appreciate it longest relationship uh four years four years okay and so but you say you've
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been dating jesus two years there's there's been no guys in the picture for that no no zero are you
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so are you uh like do you consider yourself born born again born again are you a do you consider yourself
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a born again virgin or is that uh definitely god restores everything so i do believe that he would by
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his blood he covers all that he doesn't hold us he even forgets the sins that we did from the past
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so so so born again virgin yeah i just don't say that but yeah um so you've been what have you have
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you been celibate yes okay go ahead andrew well born again what now born again virgin right born again
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virgin let's go no i mean but your virginity most certainly was not intact right i'm sorry no of
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course yeah right so what does born again virgin mean it's just the sense that like he forgives all
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your sins from the past so he's not looking at that he's looking at your heart there's people who
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can be virgins who are more promiscuous and their heart is can be dirtier than somebody who isn't he
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looked god jesus looks at the heart he doesn't look at that so okay no no i'm sorry i'm still still
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confused what is a born again virgin i'm still confused as to what that is your virginity is
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something which is um which is given to you and you're supposed to keep intact with chastity that
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can be removed based on choices that you make right but you're supposed to keep it you know chased
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until marriage that's the way it's supposed to operate within the confines of christianity
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you can be born again uh i understand what you're saying there that makes sense to me but i don't
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understand what a born again virgin is that doesn't make sense to me because a lot of the things like
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you think of are more carnally like this we're talking spiritually it's a lot of things that you
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can't we can't understand but it's not a term that i go around telling anybody it's more of just like
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yeah i understand that you may not tell people that but you would consider yourself that is that
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right yes yeah so if you consider yourself that whether you tell people that or not that is still
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something that you consider to be a true statement what is it i don't i don't really understand
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a second chance at life it's a second chance at life that's what it is i did the same thing i was
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very promiscuous i was were you also born again virgin i mean i waited to have sex until my wedding
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day once i became a christian so i mean i never said that doesn't answer the question no i didn't say
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that i was a born again virgin i said that um you know when when i became a christian it was a
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second chance to do things the right way and god i understand that i would be the first one who
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would say that of course um that you know nobody's perfect and after conversion you should adhere to
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the rigorism of christianity absolutely i agree with that but that doesn't answer my question as
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to what the hell a born again virgin is i've heard that on the show a second chance of life hang on hang
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on hang on hang on let me finish i've heard it on the show about a hundred times and i've never
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actually heard a good answer for what it is i mean it's not an actual term that you would
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even say i mean i think he asked it and she just kind of agreed to it clearly i was not a virgin when
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i got married on my wedding night but i was practicing sexual purity from the time i became
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a christian so i was celibate for three years until my husband and i got married and our first time was on
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our wedding night so we we followed the teachings of jesus because it was important to us to honor
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our body and to honor our testimony so born again virgin is that an actual thing no but you know you
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get a second chance at life to do things right so you can kind of look at yourself as like wow i have
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a fresh slate like god's mercies are new each and every single morning and today i'm choosing the path
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of celibacy am i a virgin no but i'm practicing celibacy until my wedding night moving forward
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so then born again you would say then in your estimation that when women say they're born again
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virgins that it's actually they're not born again virgins that doesn't mean anything it's just nonsense
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designed for some type of um you know puritan pushing essentially right yeah i would just say
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that you signaling we would call it something that makes them feel better to say hey i'm a born again
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virgin when in all actuality it's just a second chance at doing things right everything's okay
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your mind all right i'm glad thank you for clarifying and appreciate the body is renewed
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everything like god renews the locusts that they did he renew your hymen
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i do god damn well i mean look i'm not trying to be mean i'm just saying i want you to understand
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the absurdity every day and my body doesn't need it anymore try to understand the absurdity of what's
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being said here right god did not renew your hymen that did not happen your virginity was not
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put back into your body that was gone this born again the born again virginity thing
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is nonsensical false doctrine and i don't know where the hell it comes from and i've never really
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heard it explained so just saying it's it's somewhat frustrating for me to uh to listen to because
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i never really get a good explanation for it and i wish that women would stop using it it seems to
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me like it's a form of piety signaling like oh no i'm pure now and it's like no wait a second let's
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back up a little bit here uh like you said christianity is a process we call that the osis
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in orthodoxy we agree it's a process but you suddenly you don't suddenly get your virginity back
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because you um because you were baptized that's that's insanity right yeah you don't get your virginity
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back but you do get your purity back so i like to say that what god's restoration looks like is
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he'll take you back to the place before you ever knew what pain was when you were like a two-year-old
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child full of love full of joy full of faith believing that you can have whatever and do
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whatever god takes you back to that place before you knew what it was like to be rejected before you
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knew what it was like to be stepped on um walked out on god renews your purity purity is a heart thing
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it's not actually a physical thing and that's exactly why jesus would would talk to the pharisees
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and he told them you guys are so focused on cleaning the outside of the cup you should
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clean the inside of the cup right so it's like purity is something that god can give you back virginity is
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not yeah well when you say purity though do you think that just getting baptized means that you have
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your purity back whatever whatever that means it's a process of sanctification so like when i first
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became a christian you know i showed up to church you know wearing raunchy clothing taking drugs all
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the things you know god started little by little to peel back layers right and he were you baptized at
00:25:28.220
that time uh i had gotten baptized actually when i was in the porn industry not understanding the
00:25:34.300
fullness of what i was doing i when i left porn you got baptized when you were in i know i had a
00:25:40.300
so i had a pimp who was like you know claiming yeah claiming to be a christian and i told him one
00:25:46.620
day that i thought that i was possessed by the devil and so he took me to a church and i ended
00:25:52.140
up getting baptized uh but i was still your pimp wait hang on yeah your pimp took you to church
00:26:00.140
to baptize out the demons is that is that right i know right crazy yeah that's exactly what happened
00:26:06.860
but i did feel like refreshed and renewed and i started actually hearing the voice of god
00:26:11.820
little by little right it was the voice of god that led me away from the pimp and so forth so
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um yeah but like i said it's the word purity in itself means to be uncontaminated so when i say you
00:26:22.700
don't get your virginity back you can get your purity back because god will take your heart back to a
00:26:27.500
place where it is uncontaminated it is pure you're free from you know when you so when your pimp
00:26:34.300
took you down and you got baptized and he takes you out um and then you go and you have sex again with a
00:26:39.180
guy for money yeah right assume that you must have done that because you had a pimp uh what happened
00:26:43.820
to your purity was your was it negated out no i mean honestly back then i didn't even know the term
00:26:49.740
purity and i wouldn't have considered myself pure i feel like i was very contaminated um i was you know
00:26:56.140
riddled with depressions uh intrusive thoughts and so forth and so um i was very envious i was very
00:27:03.980
mean girl like i was definitely not uncontaminated so i was i wouldn't have considered myself pure to
00:27:10.540
be very honest okay did you get baptized a second time i did yeah so i started going uh to church uh
00:27:19.100
what was this december of 2012 i surrendered my life to the lord in february what that means was
00:27:25.420
by december to february god had told me to flush my drugs down the toilet i did it um he miraculously
00:27:32.220
healed me of drug addiction um and then he really started working on my heart i decided to take an
00:27:37.660
entire year off of dating because men were my weakness um and i just started seeking god every
00:27:42.460
day through prayer worship reading the bible and he really transformed my life um and i like i said i
00:27:48.620
took that year off dating and that was a really monumental like a healing a very healing year for me
00:27:54.300
would you have quit your uh porn career even if you had not gotten baptized by your pimp so i i mean
00:28:02.540
i don't know i did porn for about three years after that but i had been given a bible at church and so
00:28:08.460
how this happened was i felt the holy spirit one day tell me to leave my pimp um he guided me to call
00:28:14.060
my mom she came rescued me the holy spirit told you to leave your pimp yeah absolutely absolutely
00:28:19.020
how'd that sound what what's that how did that sound okay so i had this impression in my heart
00:28:25.500
where you know we we were in a fight and i felt god say britney you need to leave him and i'm like
00:28:29.980
what am i gonna do i don't have anyone to call and he said call your mom at that time in my life uh
00:28:35.260
we had a very like estranged relationship now she's one of my closest friends but at that time like we
00:28:41.180
didn't get along i'm like i can't call her and the holy spirit just said britney humble yourself and call
00:28:45.100
your mom and so i did just that i called her and she came picked me up helped me to get away from
00:28:49.900
him uh then i had to go film porn am i allowed to say porn right because uh that's the only thing i
00:28:56.380
knew how to do so before i leave for the for the airport i felt again the holy spirit say bring your
00:29:01.580
bible so i'm on the airplane i'm reading my bible revelation chapter 2 verse 20 through 23 and this
00:29:07.660
particular verse really stood out to me it says uh i have this thing against you you tolerate that woman
00:29:13.340
named jezebel i have given her time to repent if she doesn't repent i will cast her and her
00:29:18.220
children into a sick bed along with well let me um let me ask you this too right uh i didn't i didn't
00:29:23.500
mean to cut you off but there's there's like like only so much we can go before we can have a good back
00:29:28.140
and forth exchange um let's assume for a second that somebody came to you tomorrow and they were like
00:29:35.420
the holy spirit told me that you're not redeemed and that uh your prostitution bars you from i don't know
00:29:41.580
know what whatever it is how would you make the determination that they're wrong if they think
00:29:46.300
the holy spirit's talking to them and you think the holy spirit's talking to you yeah because the
00:29:50.460
bible says that i am redeemed because i've been bought with the blood of jesus right yeah but how
00:29:55.580
you interpret you can only exegete the bible if you have the holy spirit right right well some
00:30:01.100
people okay so if somebody exegetes the bible and claims that they have the holy spirit inside
00:30:04.940
of them and so do you how do you make the determination as to who is right honestly some
00:30:08.540
people are demonized and if it's not aligned with the word of god then i would just clearly
00:30:13.100
tell them i'm sorry you're not hearing from god i've had how do you know what the word of god is
00:30:17.580
if you're both exegeting and you both claim that you have the holy spirit you read the bible i read
00:30:22.220
the bible every single day every single day before i go to bed i read it in the morning i read the bible
00:30:27.500
daily i love the word of god it has transformed my life it's renewed my mind it's made me a whole new
00:30:32.940
creation like i'm yeah i get it i get it but listen listen to what i'm asking you right super important
00:30:39.100
when you read the bible you're exegeting the text right right okay in order to exegete the text
00:30:46.780
you have to have you be filled with the holy spirit correct
00:30:51.900
sure is that right i mean yeah sure okay so what if you have two of you protestant christians who are
00:30:57.980
both exegeting the text and you both come to different conclusions how do you know which one
00:31:03.580
of you is right final thought from both of you on this go ahead the bible is very clear um you're kind
00:31:10.780
of making your question isn't really if it's not aligned with the bible it doesn't matter what man
00:31:15.180
says man will always talk but you know personally with the holy spirit like she said it personally was
00:31:22.700
to her um and if it doesn't align with the bible simple enough it's not from god it's not that
00:31:28.300
complicated yeah okay well i'll let it go because we have to move on but i just want to let you both
00:31:32.860
know that you didn't answer the question at all but anyway i i do appreciate the engagement relationship
00:31:39.500
status single all right for how long since like august
00:31:52.860
eight months yeah yeah eight months okay longest relationship about like a year one year and was
00:32:00.300
that your last relationship the one that ended eight months ago yeah like yeah yeah like yeah
00:32:05.980
yeah uh why did it why did that end um well i'm from seattle so he was still uh like a year younger
00:32:18.140
so like i'm moving he's still in washington right i'm too young to do like long distance like i'm freshly
00:32:23.340
18. okay well so you're moving away for college is that correct yeah okay okay what about you uh i am
00:32:32.460
married and i've been with my husband we've been married for eight years together for 10. and that's
00:32:38.220
my longest relationship years together for 10. okay what about you longest relationship is seven years
00:32:45.020
and i am married um and i have a beautiful daughter and currently pregnant with another one
00:32:50.460
currently pregnant super excited how far along 12 weeks are you all right there you go
00:32:56.300
this is your big announcement and you said you i'm sorry did you say you're pregnant yeah oh well
00:33:04.620
congratulations thanks you're not far enough along to know if it's a boy or a girl yet uh we have to
00:33:10.780
wait till week 20 to do that yeah whatever gender reveal party is coming soon uh you're you said you've
00:33:17.260
been married how long uh so we got married this uh past fall in 2023 and uh we've been together for five
00:33:25.180
years all right got it cool andrew what about you uh yeah i've been married for over a decade um
00:33:34.780
that's my relationship status and uh yeah that's uh that's it all right rock and roll so
00:33:43.180
where do we get started here where do we get started i i know where to get started i know where if you
00:33:48.620
want right i would like to i mean i heard this usually this is the part where brian asks if there's
00:33:54.700
anybody on the podcast who has any disagreements with any of the things which are said on the show
00:33:59.500
which i'd like to hear the answer to but i have a disagreement that i'd like to air on the show
00:34:04.060
about this female pastor thing where where did you get where is the idea that women can be ordained
00:34:09.900
as female pastors come from yeah i mean personally i i told you i don't call myself a pastor i'm not
00:34:15.820
pastoring i lead connect groups online with women um and i am leading over women i consider myself more of
00:34:22.940
like a spiritual mother to many beautiful daughters good women uh be pastors
00:34:33.900
i mean i know there's that's a very uh debatable question uh so let's debate it can women be
00:34:42.780
pastors i mean there are many women pastors who are under the covering of a male pastor and so in many
00:34:48.780
churches that is acceptable yeah that's not my question should from your world view should there
00:34:55.740
be female pastors or not i think there is a wonderful need and a huge blessing for women to be pastors uh
00:35:04.220
over other women should they be leading men i mean i don't i don't know like i'm not gonna comment on
00:35:12.060
that that's very debatable would they be equal these female pastors who had dominion over women
00:35:17.900
would they be equal to the male pastors in what way in the way that they're equal would they have
00:35:24.380
any dominion or would they need to always adhere to the male authority of the church oh i mean typically
00:35:30.540
like the way that it works is the male the i mean the husband and the wife would be the senior pastors
00:35:35.500
of the church the male is the leader of their house that's not typically the way it works what's
00:35:40.140
that that's not typically the way it works that husbands and wives are both leaders of churches
00:35:45.180
it's not typically the way it works at all well but it does happen along amongst many churches in
00:35:51.500
america so can i ask yeah it does happen in many churches in america i'm not disputing that but what
00:35:57.180
i'm getting at is whether or not this is good doctrine and if you believe that women should be pastors
00:36:02.460
and it sounds like you do but then you go on and qualify but they should only have dominion over
00:36:07.100
women i have but that still should mean that they adhere to the church authority of men correct what's
00:36:12.300
up what okay so so to repeat this you believe that there should be female pastors yes i think that
00:36:22.220
they can be a wonderful blessing to to many people yes absolutely so then yes okay so do should they
00:36:32.060
have only dominion over women right i mean that kind of depends on how you look at it because
00:36:38.460
there are pastors who will preach to the congregation and there happens to be men involved it doesn't mean
00:36:43.500
that they have dominion over the man but if what does it mean the senior pastor of the church is
00:36:49.340
allowing the woman pastor to preach then so be it you know i've shared i have shared down in church wait
00:36:56.620
wait wait where aren't women supposed to sit down in church and obey the ecclesiastical
00:37:01.180
hierarchical authority of the church which is male i mean jesus used not too long on this
00:37:06.220
jesus used women let's look at the woman at the well right she didn't she wasn't a pastor but when
00:37:11.580
jesus you mean the one that had to give jesus a drink of water because he told her to absolutely
00:37:16.140
that woman went on to be an evangelist to the nations i mean she went and evangelized
00:37:21.420
the gospel and what jesus had done in her life um and so jesus what church was how about mary magdalene
00:37:28.940
when when jesus uh when jesus showed himself to mary after the resurrection and then she had to go and
00:37:35.660
relay the message to men so jesus didn't jesus what church was she the head of she wasn't the head of a
00:37:42.460
church but my right she wasn't the head of a church here so you're right you're making a word concept
00:37:47.340
fallacy where you believe that because women are allowed to evangelize the word and shoot down the
00:37:52.780
arguments against the word that that means that they can have some type of authority in the church
00:37:56.620
and that's insane but if you look at it theologically when paul i know what you're referring to
00:38:01.900
and when that statement was made theologically there were women in ephesus uh who were disorderly
00:38:09.820
they you have to keep in mind women were not allowed to read they didn't know how to read back
00:38:14.300
then and so nobody knew how to read back then how are they to teach the word of god if they can't
00:38:19.980
read the word nobody knew how to read back then what does that have to do with anything you mean
00:38:24.620
nobody knew how to read people almost nobody knew how to read it was a completely illiterate population
00:38:29.340
everywhere very people clearly knew how to read i mean he didn't write the whole bible but he wrote many
00:38:35.820
many stories in the bible you do realize that christianity was practiced before there was a bible right
00:38:44.300
of course because okay there was so the previous right yes the old testament yeah what's that sorry
00:38:51.660
there were writings of the old testament and that's exactly what jesus read read from when
00:38:59.340
yo jim thank you for the gift of 20 memberships uh guys we're gonna move on from that um we're gonna
00:39:05.100
move on but that was uh that was good appreciate it guys um is uh chat can you answer this is andrew's
00:39:12.700
audio a little low is the audio a little low for andrew nick what's the audio set to is that 100 yeah
00:39:25.980
andrew was saying start off the show typically if anybody disagrees with anything for those of
00:39:34.140
you who've seen the show before if you've seen clips anything you disagree with why don't we start
00:39:38.700
there anything from anybody going once going twice
00:39:46.700
okay first question all right here's a dating scenario right let's say you're dating a guy how
00:39:51.820
would you feel if you're dating a guy he wants to take you to hawaii he's going to pay for the whole
00:39:57.740
trip hotel food airfare everything the only caveat is he wants to fly first class but he's going to put
00:40:06.220
you in economy is that a problem take economy hold on hold on let's start with you let's start with you
00:40:12.140
we'll go around the table go ahead i mean i guess it really is situation situational um i mean just off
00:40:18.540
the bat like first thought like sure i would take economy like we're going to hawaii like all this is
00:40:22.540
paid for like of course i'm not going to be like no i need first class but it just it is a situ it is
00:40:27.900
a situational thing um but yeah like well i just i outlined the situation yeah um so he's going to be
00:40:35.580
in first class you won't be sitting together for the entire what seven to eight hour flight
00:40:41.740
but he's paying for everything he's paying for flight hotel etc but he's taking first class you know
00:40:47.260
maybe he's got he wants to you know lay down he's got back problems neck problems you know
00:40:52.460
yeah um from your scenario you gave like i would have absolutely no problem with that but if there's
00:40:57.580
another factor like he just doesn't want me in first class for whatever reason then i think there could
00:41:02.460
be maybe he's trying to save money i guess maybe i mean that's fine but he gets first class i think
00:41:08.700
that's okay okay what about you i would ask him to put me in first class or i don't think that i would go
00:41:13.260
so again he's paying for everything he'll pay for your ticket hotel food while you're there
00:41:20.060
entertainment but if he doesn't put you in first class now it's not the first class part it's the
00:41:25.420
it being separate part so if he downgraded to economy i would be fine with that that'd be fine
00:41:30.140
yeah yeah yeah okay i don't think i would be with someone who doesn't want to sit on a seven
00:41:36.540
hour flight with me yeah regardless of where it's not that he doesn't want to sit with you he just wants
00:41:41.340
the comfort of being in first class without me of course yeah not be yeah um i'd be a little upset
00:41:52.780
i think you'd be upset is this like a breakup upset yeah so hold on just to be clear the guy who's
00:41:59.980
gonna pay for your flight to hawaii your hotel your food you'd be fine with the situation if he was also
00:42:07.340
sitting with you in economy but because he wants a bit more comfort while he's flying but he can't
00:42:11.980
afford he can't afford to pay for first class for both of you that's if it's just about like affording
00:42:20.140
i guess that's different yeah let's say it's affording okay okay um yeah so i'd appreciate it
00:42:27.100
and like everything he's doing so yeah he can sit in first class but i'd be a little hurt
00:42:32.700
i'd still you'd still be hurt i'd be i'd be hurt yeah interesting okay what about you what if it's
00:42:37.020
not affording what if it's not affording and he just really wants to fly first class and just
00:42:41.820
doesn't feel the need to buy you first class he can afford it in fact let's say he can afford 80
00:42:46.460
million first class seats just doesn't want to get one for you for whatever reason
00:42:52.860
what about that actually hurts your feelings but why would i want to be with someone who doesn't
00:42:56.940
want to sit next to me on a flight well i mean why why would that be a big deal you don't think
00:43:04.940
that's odd yeah i mean no if he's dating you right he's paying for you to fly all over hell's half acre
00:43:13.500
he's taking you know he's taking all these expenses uh why why why if he wants to sit in first class
00:43:20.140
uh or let's just say this let's just say it was the final seat in first class and and he was like well
00:43:25.420
that one's mine and so he grabs it and you got the economy seat right you're gonna be upset yeah
00:43:32.220
no he can have it yeah okay he can have the last one for sure what about you okay so if it was
00:43:39.900
the money thing i would be okay with um sitting in the economy seat um but if it was just because
00:43:50.460
he didn't want to sit with me i would be sad about that but if it was like the money thing i would be
00:43:56.780
like oh can i pay the difference so i can sit with you or something you know yeah so i think we both
00:44:04.140
said economy and because if he's my guy for me i need my love you know is spending time with one
00:44:12.540
another and obviously on a long trip that if he's not into that then we're probably not compatible well
00:44:17.660
hold on so let's say the reason is he uh he wants to fly first class not to get away from you but
00:44:26.860
because he needs the the layback seats because he has a he has back pain oh that's fine because i'm a
00:44:32.460
boxer and i have back pain yeah yeah so i get it like that's different completely okay yes but if you
00:44:39.900
you're still in economy yeah he takes first class you're in economy yeah that's back pain okay but i also
00:44:45.660
have back pain so hopefully he will let me sit first okay all right what about you i would be
00:44:50.620
weirded out like like why can't we both just sit like you know comfort class like you know we can
00:45:00.540
yeah meet in the middle yeah you know what i'm saying like i'd be like it's a seven hour flight
00:45:05.740
well why isn't you know not a quick flight so i'm kind of like confused
00:45:08.860
confused what are you confused about what i'm confused why he wouldn't want to sit with me for
00:45:14.300
that long he's got the whole time like he's got back pain i think for a lot of girls though too like
00:45:18.940
the whole time okay but the whole time like you're on the way this is our first trip you said that's
00:45:23.740
the scenario our first it doesn't have to be the first trip but um sure okay well i would be stressed
00:45:29.260
out i'd be like oh my god this is a sign like after this this is over you know what i mean i'd be
00:45:33.580
stressed out because i'm sitting by myself and he's not like reassuring me because we're not
00:45:38.220
together so i'd be like he's gonna abandon me or like kill me in hawaii what i don't know that'd be
00:45:42.860
like what my mind would go to i'm alive me okay interesting what about you i'm married so i wouldn't
00:45:51.820
have that issue and my husband is a gentleman he would never have done that to me yeah wait it's not
00:45:56.860
gentlemanly yeah it's not just to be clear he's he's offering to take you on a flight to hawaii at
00:46:03.740
his expense pay for everything while there yes but it's not gentlemanly to no to leave your to leave
00:46:10.460
your lady in the back absolutely not i can understand if he's like had a bad back and had surgery and it's
00:46:16.780
love like yeah i really like i really can't afford but like i need this because my back like i can i can
00:46:23.660
get that so when she's saying situational i understand that i would work with that but if
00:46:28.300
it's just like i'm paying for the whole trip and i'm gonna be comfortable and you're not and you're
00:46:33.180
in a relationship then absolutely not yeah that's so weird but what's the okay but you you wouldn't
00:46:39.340
object if you were both sitting in the economy right because you're sitting together right you like
00:46:44.940
when you're in a relationship you're agreeing to like do life together i don't know my husband would
00:46:49.020
never do something like that to me that's just such an odd situation what if he would you do that
00:46:54.220
there's two scenarios there's two scenarios so there's two there's two scenarios where this could
00:46:59.100
occur right there's the affordability um and he can only afford one first class seat and then secondly
00:47:06.300
there's some reason for him needing to be in first class for example he's got he needs to lay down
00:47:12.620
because he's got back pain or something like that um yeah would i do that yes i would i absolutely would
00:47:21.260
as somebody who does this has uh neck pain chronic pain back pain yeah i would do it i would do it
00:47:30.220
back in economy you go i'll see you at the end of the flight later are you single
00:47:36.620
are you are you i think i think that's valid i think that's super valid what about like
00:47:44.540
affording the entire trip but he can't afford like another first class seat it's like let's
00:47:48.620
stay at like a he's the budget three-star hotel so i can sit like first class i think you're overthinking
00:47:53.420
it maybe a little bit okay no i see where you're at though yeah right yeah huh okay so i guess to
00:48:02.940
clarify um originally it was like if you're dating now i think a lot of people have different
00:48:07.260
terminologies nowadays on seeing dating whatever for me dating is like that's not my boyfriend
00:48:14.460
that's someone who i'm just figuring out and they're like hey you know let's just assume it's
00:48:19.420
your boyfriend let's make it okay it's your boyfriend so boyfriend's got back problems geriatric
00:48:23.900
issues okay that's fine um for me it comes to mind like that whole farmer in the field hiring workers
00:48:30.300
right and he's like i'll pay you 200 to work in the field for an entire day they're like sweet
00:48:34.620
dope let's do it another person gets hired i'll pay you 200 a day to work six hours and then they all
00:48:40.700
get paid 200 a day and then the last guy only works an hour and when they all see like i worked here all
00:48:45.820
day and i only got 200 he's worked here one hour and he got 200 how is that fair and at the end of
00:48:51.740
it it's like you know what you're getting a free trip right and if you cannot contribute to because
00:48:58.220
that's the thing it's like is there a way we can contribute that you said like can i pay my way
00:49:03.580
and upgrade to that first like ticket right so for me i just look at that way i'm getting all of this
00:49:09.100
i'm not going to be upset because you happen to have a nicer seat with a bad back like i'm just grateful
00:49:13.820
so that's how i see that that's good yeah yeah interesting okay um andrew any thoughts on that one
00:49:21.500
i mean i just heard a lot of me me me me i'm just just saying that i heard a lot of that but
00:49:29.020
i won't i won't belabor the point i'm not sure that um i'm not sure that's worth really tangling
00:49:34.060
on but uh i just heard a lot of me me me that's all that's i'm just going to point that out not
00:49:39.500
saying that it means anything necessarily but i did hear a lot of me not a lot of him just just
00:49:46.700
just pointing it out oh a couple questions here um and moving off moving off to uh something else
00:49:52.620
uh so you were on naked and afraid uh but did you been dating your boyfriend for five years
00:49:59.340
um yep and were you married at the time you were on the show or not yet we were engaged engaged did he
00:50:06.460
have any issues with you like okay i'm gonna go on the show i'm gonna be nude with in front of cameras
00:50:12.860
and on tv and in front of another man or other the film crew was there any conflict there in the
00:50:18.220
relationship no we were already fans of the show so he understands that the premise is not sexual in
00:50:25.580
any way it would be the same as me going into my medical field and looking at somebody's naked body
00:50:30.540
there's just a level of professionalism um he actually canceled our elopement and said that
00:50:37.340
i was going hang on back up back up in what way would that be like being in the medical field and
00:50:44.620
looking at someone's naked body because you're giving them you know life-saving treatments where
00:50:48.700
you would have to keep have their clothes off in order to get access to that i don't understand that
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so if i have to assess somebody for like if i'm doing hands-on back in the day where i'm having to
00:50:57.580
assess for broken bones i'm palpating or i'm touching somebody there's a lot of fields where
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even if you're looking at somebody like a tattoo we'll take it down a notch a tattoo artist right
00:51:07.260
sometimes they're being exposed to skin it is not sexual because it is a profession that has nothing
00:51:13.020
to do with that niche in this survival yeah but i mean would your husband let you tattoo a guy's dick
00:51:18.940
i personally wouldn't do that but well right that's the point then it's a bad analogy right if you say
00:51:23.980
a tattoo artist uh has to you know look at the nether regions of people uh because that's part of their
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profession i'm sure your husband would not let you tattoo a woman's name on a guy's penis right
00:51:35.820
well that's okay i understand that where you're trying to take this and i appreciate that because
00:51:41.740
this is a good conversation for the sake of the show a lot of people don't know what the survival
00:51:45.900
community is this is going back to national geographic pure primitive survival now if we can
00:51:54.300
make clothes if we can do any of that that's what we're going to try to do but at this point we are
00:51:59.580
doing our best not to get bitten by snakes there's over 300 different species that are poisonous out
00:52:04.940
there we have caiman crocodiles for us every step we take is at that point could be a very dangerous
00:52:11.820
situation so when i say this is not sexual we are so covered in bug bites that like my partner's toes
00:52:18.220
disappeared and he went into like a one and a half day fever because he was so anaphylactic to those bug
00:52:25.100
bites like this is something that have you um have you ever heard of a guy named rob wolf sorry say
00:52:31.740
that again rob wolf have you ever heard of him i haven't no he's uh he basically started the kind of
00:52:39.740
paleolithic uh diet movement he was on a reality tv show years ago he's a friend of mine very nice man
00:52:47.180
um and he actually ran down an elk i believe i think it was an elk with an adlatl he was the first
00:52:54.300
person to kill one of those animals with an adlatl yeah in like i don't know i don't know like 500
00:53:00.380
years or some shit like that i don't remember him being naked though yeah that's because he's not going
00:53:06.540
back to the most vulnerable mental game there is that's hunting so like matt graham is another famous
00:53:12.540
primitive survivalist and he will be naked until he gets a loincloth from the animals he hunts with
00:53:17.980
an atlatl which ladies that's a special like spear device with an extension on it um it comes from
00:53:23.660
like kind of like a more african primitive uh hunting survival couldn't they do the show though with like
00:53:29.180
they could do the exact same show without the naked component right it's kind of a gimmick but it's
00:53:35.260
kind of the gimmick the point is it's edited so it is blurred out so it's not the fact that i'm
00:53:42.060
doing a show for you guys to see me naked that's not what this is about and i think in western
00:53:47.260
culture we are so we make everything this sexual fetish that we just can't wrap our minds around
00:53:52.860
the fact that you can go out into the columbian jungle and be stripped of every modern day
00:53:58.700
comfort the fact is like every step you take is dangerous because you don't have the clothing and
00:54:03.180
the protection there we don't have shoes we don't have the comfort like when it's pouring a monsoon rain
00:54:07.660
and we're in a hypothermic state we don't have that protection of shelter from our clothing
00:54:12.380
the point is you want to mentally tap out and you want to quit and it's only your mental game until
00:54:18.540
you're there day by day finding a resource to make yourself warm finding a resource so like at night i
00:54:23.980
had to go pick straw for like two hours make sure there's no ticks in it and that's what i had to make
00:54:29.580
into my sleeping mattress like every night to try to maintain that body heat while putting hot rocks in
00:54:34.860
there so it's like i wish you would take the time to watch national geographic a little bit more look
00:54:42.780
into old primitive technologies and tribal relationships because there's still a lot of
00:54:47.100
tribes that today are naked the hunters the only thing they use is a string and they do a special
00:54:51.900
little roll and that string ties around their waist and that's their only protection when they're running
00:54:56.220
through that jungle after those monkeys it's again not sexual it's a tribal primitive survival
00:55:01.340
why are they running after the monkeys i love monkeys well because they eat them so they they
00:55:08.380
make a special toxin out of these frogs and they use blow darts but the only thing that they do besides
00:55:15.340
being purely nude no shoes nothing is that they just roll their manly hood and so it stays up and then
00:55:22.060
that way it doesn't get caught on things when they're jumping over branches or jumping over those palm
00:55:25.980
thorns and things like that well so okay bringing it back to dating though it didn't present any
00:55:30.940
issues for for your relationship no because we again we know what the community is we are already
00:55:37.500
huge fans of the show and originally i actually declined the show uh because of the date we were
00:55:42.540
going to get eloped on a mountaintop we were going to rent a helicopter it was going to be on vancouver
00:55:46.060
island and um it fell right in between both of the recording times and we had intentions of having
00:55:52.380
another child so i told him i'm sorry i can't do it hold on brian alzabi's roast beef donated two
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hundred dollars question for the ladies would you date a man who did not identify himself as a feminist
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if so why not okay uh we'll go around on that um starting with you go ahead um i don't i don't really
00:56:15.740
have a comment on that i'm actually not really sure what you're not sure um would you date a man who did
00:56:26.380
not identify as a feminist i mean i guess i guess it kind of depends on like who like our personal
00:56:34.540
definition of feminism yeah so i'm not really sure what to speak well what's your definition
00:56:40.540
uh textbook wise i could not give you one off the top of my head i can uh give you one that you
00:56:46.860
might agree with okay let's just say the strive for men and women to live in an egalitarian and equal
00:56:53.420
society um okay um i guess i wouldn't date a man like i'm not saying he necessarily like has to be
00:57:03.340
like like like promote himself as a feminist i just mean like if he has the same views as like
00:57:09.980
equal gender society then yes that's kind of like the only they they would have to have those values
00:57:18.700
so so what if he was like a feminist like the most staunch feminist and he's like yeah you know
00:57:24.620
we got to equalize the draft like women got to get drafted in the military just like men
00:57:30.220
would you date him i mean it does depend just on how strong his beliefs are strong like very strong
00:57:38.860
like he's like he's your name's uh payden right yes he's like payden i want to see you drafted in
00:57:44.620
the military it's only fair it's only equal i'm a feminist then probably no no no you would but hold
00:57:51.820
wait well but i thought you said you would date a feminist and striving for the equal society egalitarianism
00:58:00.220
it just depends on how like i guess it just depends on how strong and how much he implements
00:58:06.620
his beliefs on other people like if he's telling me every day like i want you drafted in the military
00:58:12.300
paid in every single day no every day then no i wouldn't no okay oh so but you you'd be fine with
00:58:19.020
that position so long as he wasn't just badgering you yeah i think if he respects like everyone else's
00:58:25.820
beliefs and opinions on that topic sure i think that's okay and i think as long as he's not
00:58:30.540
implementing his beliefs so harshly on me and like the people we're surrounded with i think that's also
00:58:35.340
okay all right what if he's a uh patriarchist who who loathes feminists and thinks that all of them
00:58:41.260
suck but then like let's say he's very public about that he's like patriarchy's awesome feminism
00:58:47.980
fucking sucks what about that guy is he is like that he's a no-go no-go no-go okay okay going around
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the table would you date a man who did not identify himself as a feminist if so why not i would date a
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man who does not identify as a feminist i don't know i he he is a feminist who who did not identify
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himself as a feminist as long as there's like a mutual respect for everyone i i don't think we
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need like a label like he's a feminist like if if he's like respectful towards all i'm okay with that
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okay yeah but but what is that this is the i guess the problem with this is when you say
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he's respectful to all does that mean basically he just keeps his beliefs about this to himself
00:59:35.740
is that what you mean no just respectful he has like respect for people yeah but i'm not i'm not
00:59:43.100
really sure would it be disrespectful for instance if he was um talking to a woman maybe a friend of
00:59:48.220
yours and you were you were all three having a chat and and she said you know i just came back from
00:59:53.500
this feminist abortion rally and he was like oh fucking gross yeah fucking what are you doing ah
00:59:58.940
that's that feminism sucks what are you doing is that being disrespectful yes yeah okay
01:00:05.660
so then so then isn't the only thing about it that's disrespectful is that he's voicing his
01:00:10.540
belief i just if you maybe phrase it differently if that's how you feel like oh it's just in how he
01:00:18.940
voices his belief so if he was like well i disagree with that then it's okay yes but oh okay but he
01:00:25.900
can't be like oh fuck it grows you can't do that okay now let's just let me ask you this one quick
01:00:32.380
follow-up okay let's say that you were sitting with like your two friends and one of them is
01:00:37.500
a feminist and she pulled out a piece of shit and took a bite he was like oh my god that's gross
01:00:43.180
would you hold that against him that is gross yeah exactly and that's how he feels about feminism
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right that's my whole point does that does taking a bite of shit have anything to do with feminism
01:00:54.860
the point is from his perspective right um he feels the exact same way about the feminist as
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he would about her pulling out a piece of shit taking a bite fit in front of him he feels the same
01:01:10.380
way totally i i understand that i think it's more of like um i think everyone can agree that that's
01:01:16.780
gross and there's like when we're talking about like feminism and things like that um everyone has
01:01:23.100
different opinions but i think we can all agree taking a bite of shit's gross all right what about
01:01:27.820
you um i would say that i would date someone who isn't a feminist would you date a man who did not
01:01:36.140
identify as a feminist yes if so why oh okay well so you would yeah okay yes no feminist i think that
01:01:45.420
the man is supposed to be masculine i think that's the problem with today's society and as women we're
01:01:51.500
supposed to be nurturing yes and i think we've taken on the masculine role especially because our
01:01:57.660
hearts have been attacked like trauma dating all these relationships that break our hearts all these
01:02:05.100
things harden our hearts and that's when we lose our feminine side because i had a very masculine side
01:02:11.100
obviously i do boxing as well i was in the military i was hyper super independent um independent so
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beaten cheeks donated two hundred dollars hey thank you a real man will never identify nor agree
01:02:23.500
with feminism definition women trying their worst ways to not only take over any sort of patriarchy
01:02:29.740
within society and destroying society you want a beta oh all right beaten cheeks there you go thank
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you man all right well put all right your answer go ahead um i mean
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yeah like i don't think oh grid one here here he is donated two hundred dollars appreciate it
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respect is earned never to be given freely this is something the patriarchy can teach you feminism
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has failed all women the patriarchy endures work hard earn respect be better there you go grid one
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motorsports owner of grid one motorsports hey thank you grid one appreciate it man thank you very much
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appreciate it your answer yeah you would date a guy who did not identify himself as a feminist yeah i mean
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as long as like you know you're not like so hardcore where you're like saying like that you're like
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grossed out by it like what your friend's example was you know okay i'm married hypothetically yeah i would
01:03:35.740
okay um if my husband said he was a feminist we probably wouldn't be married there you go all
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right here let me get some chats out of the way not out of the way but you know read them nickelodeon
01:03:49.020
hey thank you so much man appreciate the uh hundred dollar message what is the 304 version of get the rock
01:03:54.060
get the rocks saint mary reset the clock um word what this is from 30 minutes ago so it's probably
01:04:03.580
related to the uh religious conversation we were having i'm not sure really but uh nickelodeon thank
01:04:08.460
you man we have oh he's saying um he was he was he was making the analogy uh saint mary reset the clock
01:04:15.020
he's talking about this whole born again virginity thing okay katia stands naked and afraid aka the story
01:04:21.180
of how i lost my virginity brian andrew you guys rock love the pod keep up the good work from katia
01:04:28.460
stands hey thank you very much man really appreciate your uh patronage good to see you back in the chat
01:04:33.740
thank you um okay we have nathan vladis hey thank you man appreciate it you are with a man who is
01:04:41.420
building his own business and you want to move because it makes it easier for you to travel to work
01:04:47.020
do you expect the man to uproot everything and move what if he won't okay so you're with a man
01:04:52.140
he's building his own business you want to move because it makes it easier for you to travel to
01:04:56.540
work do you want the man to uproot everything and move what if he won't one more time i'm so sorry yeah
01:05:05.980
why don't you just read it out if you can just read it out to everybody okay so you are with a man
01:05:10.380
who is building his own business and you want to move because it makes it easier for you to travel
01:05:14.940
to work do you expect the man to uproot everything and move what if he won't um so generally no i
01:05:22.300
wouldn't expect the man to uproot and uproot and move um in a temporary situation if it is permanent
01:05:30.060
yes but in the moment like i i generally would have like the understanding of like okay like we aren't
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able to do this right at this moment so i think that's okay um i would not expect him to uproot
01:05:42.780
everything and move and if we would probably just break up i wouldn't be with them i agree
01:05:48.460
uh i would not expect him to move either i wouldn't expect him to move i think he should be the
01:05:57.180
provider so yeah i'm not expecting no i wouldn't have expected him to move either nope don't expect
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him to move and shut down his business all right we have joshua kim's crisis king andrew preach to
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these women a awesome solar eclipse here tomorrow in texas brian keep rock it man yeah i
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hear here we're gonna have that here as well um i don't know if that's true or not but i had
01:06:23.660
heard that there's gonna be one here is it gonna is that solar eclipse gonna be visible here i don't
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i have no i heard it in some areas some of the mom the moms from the mom group i'm in were asking
01:06:35.740
for like glasses for their kids i know my mom was talking about that too yeah interesting okay brian
01:06:42.780
that'd be cool if we were streaming during the solar eclipse and it just like got dark for 30 seconds
01:06:46.700
too bad it wasn't today okay brian jones thank you man appreciate it the key to being a good and
01:06:52.540
happy person is being thankful for what you've been given showing gratitude well brian johnson i'm very
01:07:00.140
man i'm very uh very grateful for your very generous super chat thank you so much man appreciate your
01:07:06.860
patronage also i do i do have to talk a little bit of the superior spelling of brian with his
01:07:14.940
is with an i just saying thank you i appreciate it uh all right i have a couple more questions
01:07:22.220
here from my pre-show notes that some of you guys provided uh let's see let's start with vesper vesper
01:07:29.900
here you describe yourself as a luxury house pet online that's just what my bio says yeah what does
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that mean oh god um i don't know i would akin it to being like a housewife but i'm like a house pet
01:07:45.420
what do you like so what does that mean to be a house pet um i don't know i'm submissive
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i think it's just like a funny thing oh okay all right there's not much meaning to it no not really
01:07:56.700
okay i thought there's maybe like some sort of like a some sort of play thing or i don't know
01:08:01.660
no okay it's just funny you also describe yourself as a bratty gamer girl that is what my bio says um
01:08:08.460
do you so you actually pay play video games or what games do you play um i'm almost done with
01:08:13.660
baldur's gate i have like 500 hours in terraria okay you also also describe yourself as a university
01:08:20.700
art hoe yes what does that one mean um well you know like an art hoe is just something what's an
01:08:26.460
art i don't know what an art hoe is like you you like art yeah well i'm going to school for art
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i'm getting my bfa in studio arts you paint or draw or what do you do um i yeah i like painting drawing
01:08:37.980
lots of ceramics stuff like that okay you're also in your fiancee era what does that mean i'm a fiancee
01:08:45.660
there's but is there you're you're a fiancee but what does it mean to i guess be a fiancee in this
01:08:52.700
case what do you mean i'm engaged you're in your feet oh okay yeah there's no criteria okay oh i guess
01:08:59.020
that is the criteria yeah no i'm engaged so i'm someone's fiancee you also describe yourself as a
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court jester yes you know what a jester i know that yeah are you which court are you a jester of i just
01:09:12.140
think it's which monarchy i'm just curious earth the earth monarchy yeah so who's the who's the king
01:09:19.180
oh i don't know so what okay you just have all these random things in your bio
01:09:25.900
trying to make sense of it your court jester there's no sense to be made of it well how about
01:09:29.660
this one you also okay here we go oh god do i even say it i don't even know i might skip over it
01:09:36.460
yeah brain dead blank sloot you know what i'm talking about that's your words your words not
01:09:42.860
mine no um yeah that's like engagement farming oh okay for sure yeah and you you are a stripper
01:09:50.220
and you do only fans correct yes okay yeah um let's see you've said you've had some crazy encounters
01:09:55.340
with customers your current uh my two answers were different because my instagram got deleted so i'm not
01:10:01.420
sure if you have the i have the old one and the new ones the new one is better upgraded okay uh did
01:10:07.900
you meet your fiancee through work um no i met him on instagram he dm'd you or you dm'd him i dm'd him
01:10:16.860
how did you stumble upon him um well we've worked in the same city and we work in the same industry
01:10:23.660
so we had mutuals we like we follow the same like people in our area what does he do um he's a strip
01:10:30.380
club manager okay interesting well why are you laughing andrew why are you laughing i just
01:10:39.420
no i just you know he takes all kinds i guess okay you know just uh by the way i just i did have to
01:10:47.180
ask you um so most women who play video games online i've noticed the trend that they absolutely suck at
01:10:53.740
it would you say that you're one of the ones who's good at video games or um i think that depends what kind
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of games you play i don't play like first person shooter type games which that usually depends on
01:11:06.060
like you being good at it i play like lots of building games or story games um but i would
01:11:11.900
say i'm moderate at them what mode did you play boulder's gate on oh i don't know my husband you
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don't know the mode you played it didn't you sink tons of hours into it you don't know the no i'm i
01:11:21.740
sunk tons of hours into terraria um but you're almost done with boulder's gate right yeah i am almost
01:11:26.860
done with it hold on let's wait hold on let's let's let's move on let's move on i'm sure it's
01:11:31.980
just a normal one actually something that you do disagree with is you actually disagree with something
01:11:38.540
that andrew said here andrew says that parents should disown their adult children for doing only
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fans or porn which you disagree with you said you consider yourself very centrist so you think that
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we'd have things to debate okay um so actually going around the table do you think it's justified
01:11:58.940
for a father or mother to disown their adult children for being involved in only fans or
01:12:08.060
any kind of sex work starting with you we'll go around the table go ahead um generally yes my parents
01:12:14.140
do come from the medical field that is their current occupation so is my family so if i'm
01:12:20.700
have the same last name as my mom who works in the medical field i completely understand that
01:12:25.580
that comes with a certain reputation so fine you're fine with disowning um i'm not saying
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your answer's wrong i'm just just clarifying i mean this disowning is a little bit harsh i would
01:12:39.580
say more of like i'm from a dissociative opinion wait what um i just mean like dissociation
01:12:47.580
like say like my mom like until until like they stop maybe that is that what you mean you'd stop
01:12:53.100
associating with yeah okay i see yeah by the way uh so so your opinion here is um that you would bring
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shame on your parents and so you would understand why they would want to disassociate with that because
01:13:06.300
it could hurt their reputation i mean that would definitely come from my perspective not theirs
01:13:12.220
but it's but it does tie into their reputation as well yeah right let's let's assume for a second
01:13:17.820
your parents wouldn't uh wouldn't do it you're taking a much more adult stance and saying even if you
01:13:23.100
wouldn't i wouldn't want to bring shame to you right that's what you're saying yes yeah i think that's
01:13:29.100
a respectable position thank you we'll go uh before you guys get into a back and forth we'll just have
01:13:34.700
everybody answer this go ahead um i think that it's very nuanced i think that if you are i don't
01:13:40.620
think it's necessarily certain that you're bringing shame on your parents some people aren't very close
01:13:45.180
with them some people don't have very good parents um so i don't think that that would necessarily
01:13:50.140
automatically bring shame upon your family um if your parents like my grandparents are missionaries so
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if like i was their child i could understand why they would want to disown me because it would be
01:14:00.220
bad for their reputation um i don't think it's nice though yeah that upsets me i don't um i came from
01:14:09.100
a very like forgiving and welcoming household so um it's hard for me to like understand that some
01:14:14.860
parents might do that but i mean their children their parents like you raise them how you want and
01:14:22.060
that's what you're gonna do that's what you're gonna do but it's sad sad it is yeah i think to disown your
01:14:29.660
kid yeah if they're doing that okay i would understand if they disown me but it would really
01:14:36.860
hurt it hurt yeah i love my family okay yeah and i would say no um and especially coming from somebody
01:14:48.460
who was christian first off we're all adults it's not going to ruin the reputation right everybody has
01:14:53.500
their own free will their own free choice we're all adults we know this um for me like if my mom
01:14:59.820
hadn't kept talking like she was the only person that was was talking to me during my addiction
01:15:04.540
when i overdosed like if she would have not talked to me and i would have overdosed like imagine you
01:15:10.220
know what would have happened like she kept me alive for a lot of the times when i had no faith and no
01:15:15.500
hope so yeah i think you can distance i think if it's causing you like an a problem to see your
01:15:20.540
daughter like that for my mom like my dad he did he completely stopped talking to me but for my mom
01:15:26.540
it's like we should be christ-like he loved the sinners you know he went to the broken the broken
01:15:31.260
is where jesus's heart is so i disagree that you should disown but if you do need to step back because
01:15:36.380
it's affecting you that's between you and god sorry yeah i mean i'm not a parent but i don't think i
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could i could i'm sorry no just um we probably should have pointed this out earlier but when if
01:15:51.180
you can when she's talking if you can kind of just lean back just a little bit if you see what i'm
01:15:56.300
talking about here in the monitor okay yeah go ahead uh yeah no um i'm not a parent but i don't think
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that i could like disown my kid if they did that obviously i don't know i think that would hurt
01:16:08.780
because i'm from a christian household you know so like jesus like says like you know to forgive
01:16:15.020
and like it's to accept yeah and it's unconditional love so like i don't know i don't think i could
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sure yeah i don't think that that's the wise approach i think oftentimes the reason why women
01:16:27.420
get into sex work is probably because there was a lot of dysfunction in the household so for the
01:16:32.940
parent to now say i'm going to distance myself further what that child actually needs is your love
01:16:38.140
and understanding um so yeah definitely do not disown your children uh i i mentor many sex workers
01:16:46.060
that i have actually seen cross over um and i was there for them as a spiritual mother loving on them
01:16:52.460
the way that their parents didn't um and i saw it i've seen it be very counterproductive to disown your
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children when they are in sex work stripping any any of the things um i think that the parents should be
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equally honest and you know be like i don't agree with this and use tough love right like we are
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talking about a lot of faith based and yes a lot of people will come to christianity but it doesn't
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mean it's okay to keep living in your sin the point is that you understand that you've sinned and you're
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supposed to repent and you're supposed to be better so you can love that person but you don't have to
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agree with that person absolutely that's a great word to keep it to yourself because that's not actually
01:17:29.660
being loving when you see something that could some guy a long time ago donated 200 be careful of
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which path in life you take for that could crumble beneath you due to the weight of your own actions
01:17:44.140
some guy a long time ago hey thank you really appreciate your uh very generous tts there thank
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you before i have andrew give his response guys really quickly go to twitch.tv slash whatever drop us a
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the video on youtube uh andrew you want to give your response to anybody yeah before i do to the um
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i'm sorry i'm terrible with names um the gallon blue who counsels um you know prosecute
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i can't hear you oh i said what did you say your name was again my name is brittany i'm sorry say
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it one more time brittany into the mic brittany brittany okay gotcha so brittany uh do you have any
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children i do okay and how old are they uh i have a four-year-old and an almost two-year-old
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okay so if they and you're you know you're married right yes okay so uh if one of them came to you
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and wanted to get counsel about uh being in the lgbtq and told you that they were going to move towards
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that lifestyle uh what would your husband say well first off i would feel that i'm failing as a parent
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if my child chooses to enter any sort of lifestyle like sex work or anything like that um but yeah i
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mean we would counsel them and talk to them like what what's the issue like why do you feel this
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way why do you would you give them money would i give them money for what or whatever it was that
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they needed let's just say they wanted to pay their rent but they were also engaged in these horrific
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activities would you pay their rent if they were in sex work or if they were gay what are you yeah yeah
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if i had a gay child would i pay their rent yeah why would you pay their rent if they asked you to
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yeah why wouldn't i if they were in need i would never allow let's say i would never you you're
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interrupting i would never allow my child to be homeless okay great i'm glad that you would never
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allow blah blah blah blah blah okay but you're enabling the activity you realize that you're saying
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if they're gay so hang on let me finish if they're gay i mean let me finish lady and then you can
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respond calm down that's weird calm down lady let me finish and then you can respond so anyway
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you're if if you're doing only fans you need a place to do the only fans work right now that's
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hanging out stop let me finish why is it so hard for you to do just let me finish my point and i'll
01:20:23.340
let you finish your point you're enabling by giving them cash resources and access to you this behavior
01:20:31.660
which ultimately is horrific for them i don't believe that you've pulled very many women out
01:20:37.900
of sex work if what your ideology is is to tell them that it should be enabled that's insanity no see
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you just said would i pay their rent if they were gay for me i think that they are confused if they
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think that they are gay they're not operating in their identity now if they are selling themselves for
01:20:56.700
money i would not give them money for that i would say hey you need you need to give the money to be
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gay then it that's a confused it's totally different selling yourself why is it different
01:21:08.220
you're you're in sexual sin horrific sexual sin why did you why would you enable that they may
01:21:13.740
they may think they're gay and not actually be having sex i agree it's an identity issue it's an
01:21:19.260
identity issue why would you enable the identity issue that's not enabling an identity issue when
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i look when i was it not when i was in the porn industry and i wanted to get out and i didn't
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have any money my grandmother gave me a place to stay um i had my uncle send me rent money on
01:21:37.660
occasions you know which enabled you to continue to do porn no i said when i left when i left you said
01:21:45.420
when i didn't need rent money when i was doing porn okay so if my child is in the pornography industry
01:21:53.020
so at that point why shouldn't they help you they should you're not doing the activity right but they
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never disowned me they were always there for me always yeah but a disowner a disowning is a
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disassociation from the person until they stop x activity what in the world could be wrong with that
01:22:08.140
so when you're saying disowning i imagine a parent completely turning their back and not talking to them
01:22:14.060
is that how yeah yeah yeah that's wrong that's wrong why yeah tell me why it's wrong what's your
01:22:19.180
epistemic foundation for why it's wrong okay so you can make a difference in your child's life
01:22:24.940
if you have communication with them so son daughter i don't agree with what you are doing you are destined
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for so much more than this you do not need to sell your body you are better than this okay i can
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actually pour into them if i have a relationship with them if i turn my back on them who the hell is
01:22:42.380
speaking into their life the other the other only fan girls the other strippers let me get
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let me get this let me that makes no sense uh you think that it has a more punitive effect for a
01:22:53.020
parent to enable the behavior it's not enabling turn your back on the behavior and say no you're not
01:22:59.020
allowed to do this there's a punitive there's a punitive punishment for it by the way if you want
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to have a strong father a strong father gives down punishments to their children including
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disassociation disassociation if the activity is such that it defames their family absolutely not
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free will absolutely yes can you give me your epistemic foundation for what you're basing this
01:23:21.180
on other than your feelings no it's not my feelings i mean jesus was there for me when i was deep in my
01:23:28.300
sin yet he never agreed to my sin he's the very one that said daughter you need to leave this pimp
01:23:34.140
when i opened up my bible daughter you need to leave the porn industry the life that i have grid
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one motorsports donated two hundred dollars if my son threw away a lifetime of lessons given him
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i have not failed him he has failed himself we would get nothing that did not help him get his sheet
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together enabling is failure be better communication is not enabling giving money is enabling yes right
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you're enabling your parents fault that you were a prostitute what's up is it your parents fault that
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you were a prostitute you know what i grew up i mean i made the choices that i made yes but i did
01:24:10.620
grow up in an abusive household okay but was it their fault or was it your fault i made the decisions
01:24:15.820
but i made it from a broken place in my heart i had no that sounds like you just refused to take
01:24:20.380
accountability no i just said fault or was it their fault i just said i made the decisions that i made
01:24:27.420
now a parent who is a godly parent that's constantly pouring in love and has a good relationship with
01:24:33.500
their children studies show that those children don't want to enter sex work and talk to every
01:24:39.180
single woman who is in who is in the sex industry it all stems from a broken childhood yeah due to a lack
01:24:47.260
of patriarchal consequences that's why that's why you hear so many of them and we talk to them all the
01:24:52.700
time right here on this show and you hear the same story over and over and over again daddy gave me no
01:24:57.740
consequences and enabled all of my shitty behavior and he refused to put his foot down and say no
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you can't be a prostitute or you're out of here and if maybe they had done that these women wouldn't
01:25:10.540
move towards that lifestyle when you talk about jesus christ and what and what his ministry was uh it
01:25:16.780
was to go and what sin no more right but he had to talk to them aimed sinners to sin he had to talk
01:25:23.820
to them to tell them to go and then no more yeah hello we win i can't i can't even hear you he had
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to talk to them to tell them to go and sin no more if you disown your children you can't tell them to go
01:25:35.420
and sin no more you can you tell them go and sin no more they say fuck you they spit in your face
01:25:43.340
they spit in your eye, right? Why is it that you have to continuously go back to that? Why can't
01:25:49.100
they face the consequence of their actions? There are boundaries that you can set into play. If your
01:25:54.620
child is being abusive to you, then absolutely you can say, son, daughter, you are not allowed
01:25:59.200
to talk to me that way. And until you can come to me with respect, we can't communicate, but I'm not
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cutting them out because they're doing sex work. I would be cutting them out because they're being
01:26:09.080
abusive and disrespectful. There's a huge difference. Yeah. It's enabling the behavior
01:26:13.600
and any good father would never enable the behavior of their children being prostitutes on OnlyFans
01:26:20.660
and shaming their household name without a punitive punishment for that. And one such punishment,
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which would work great. Hang on, hang on. I'm almost done. I'm almost done. Hang on. Relax.
01:26:32.680
Remember there's many of you and only one of me. Okay. We'll get to everybody, but understand that
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one such punitive punishment that fathers lay down all the time is disappointment and disassociation.
01:26:46.420
And that is what the primary cause of keeping these women away from this type of work, it seems to be
01:26:52.000
extremely helpful. It's called shame. Shame works. You don't think that shame works. I don't know why
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you don't think shame works, but I got a feeling your track record here ain't going to be great if you
01:27:02.740
don't think shame works. So I'm going to speak from a personal, two personal experiences. One is Nala.
01:27:07.460
Nala. She grew up with her family that were pastor kids. We saved her by the way. Oh yeah. It was the
01:27:13.220
whatever broadcast. Shout out to Nala. Pastor kids. Her parents disowned her. She found her way back. Me,
01:27:19.360
my dad was very strict. I got spanked all the time. I wasn't even allowed to hang out after high school.
01:27:22.780
Her father did not disown her. That's bullshit. I sat right in that room that you're in right now
01:27:27.860
arguing with Nala. Nala told me to my face that her father took money from her. Okay. So let me speak for
01:27:35.540
myself. My, my father spanked me all the time. Um, we couldn't even hang out after high school.
01:27:41.020
What? Um, very, very strict households, extremely. Um, and I have free will as an adult, just like
01:27:50.300
God, we could do whatever we want. God gave us free will. We can choose what we want. True love is not
01:27:55.120
forcing somebody to do it your way. That's not, that's unconditional, that's conditional love.
01:28:00.600
Unconditional love is saying, Hey, you have free will. Oh, so when Jesus said, go and sin no more,
01:28:05.440
that was a conditional love that he put down on them. Yeah, but people can choose. He's not forcing
01:28:09.040
everybody. He could force us all to be holy, but he doesn't. He gives us a choice. Was that a
01:28:12.320
conditional love when he said, go and sin no more? No, that was a boundary. That was an instruction.
01:28:18.880
That's something you want to do because when you're in love with somebody, you don't go sin anymore.
01:28:22.800
That was the condition to receive heaven, but not his love. He loves you at all times,
01:28:27.440
doesn't agree with you. But if you want to have that repentance, if you want to have that
01:28:31.420
everlasting life and go to heaven, then you can't sin no more intentionally.
01:28:35.500
Grid One Motorsports donated $200. Yeah, thank you, Grid One. A son would always be welcome to come
01:28:39.780
home when willing to change his evil ways, but the devil has no place in my house. Your life was not
01:28:46.140
strict. You failed your parents and you still are. Get help, oh. Yeah. So the point, the point was
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about conditionals. It's just saying that there's conditionals. You can't be a part of
01:28:57.340
Christianity unless you follow the conditionals. Otherwise, what makes you a Christian? Nothing.
01:29:02.340
There's no conditionals for it. So this is the same problem applied to your logic here. There
01:29:07.340
has to be conditionals. Just saying, oh, it's just about free love. No, it's also about consequences.
01:29:12.440
You believe in the concept of hell, right? Don't you believe in that concept or do you not believe
01:29:17.160
in that concept? That's what I'm saying is we punish ourselves by not obeying our parents or not
01:29:24.580
listening to God. We don't need somebody to disown us to already feel the pain.
01:29:29.400
Like, I feel every day when I did old again. What does that have to do with what I just asked
01:29:32.000
you? What I just asked you is, does the concept of hell exist in your world? Yeah, and we have free
01:29:37.580
will to choose right and wrong. Yeah. Yeah, that sounds like a condition of if you don't do what
01:29:42.620
you're supposed to do, you go to hell. That sounds pretty freaking conditional to me.
01:29:47.620
The thing is, we just accept his gift that he died. We just have to have faith and believe that
01:29:52.360
he died for our sins. It's not like, it's amazing. Yeah, but isn't hell a condition? Isn't that a
01:29:58.340
condition of you didn't do what you were supposed to do, so you went to hell? Yeah, you didn't accept
01:30:05.520
Jesus Christ. Yeah, you didn't. So you didn't follow the conditionals. And that's the whole point.
01:30:11.020
That's what strong fathers do. That's why marriage is a patriarchy. That's why the man is the head of the
01:30:16.860
marriage? The head of the church. Head of the church. That's the representation of Jesus Christ.
01:30:21.440
That's what it is. The woman is the body of the church. The man is the head. That is a representation
01:30:26.560
of marriage inside of Christianity. It's to represent this relationship. So I'm telling you
01:30:33.040
that there's a conditional with the ultimate consequence of the eternity of hell. And you're
01:30:37.840
like, well, I'm not so sure Jesus was into these conditions. It's like, come on.
01:30:41.580
I mean, I'm sorry, but I do have to move things along. That was a very, you know, that was
01:30:49.260
a good point. It was a good. Okay. Final thing. Final thing. Final thing. You get the last
01:30:54.040
word. We'll give you a last word. Like Judas threw Jesus to the cross and Jesus knew what
01:31:00.200
his intentions were all along. And yet he never, he, what? Huh? What'd you say? I was telling
01:31:06.180
Nick, you can't cut away from Andrew while he's lighting up a ciggy. Oh, okay. I thought,
01:31:11.780
I don't know. Okay. So anyways, he didn't turn his back on him. Now we got Dr. Nablus
01:31:16.180
coming in. It's just chaos. Fathers understand the importance of consequences while mothers
01:31:20.760
tend to gravitate towards nurturing. As a result, mothers tend to enable. Disowning is a consequence.
01:31:28.340
Corn stops. Acceptance returns. Interesting. That's good. That's a decent point, Doc.
01:31:33.820
It's just a clear difference between boundaries. He's a dog. A lot of men would be disowned
01:31:37.460
if they, because if they're watching, you know, corn, I'm sure a lot of boys would be
01:31:41.540
disowned. It's the same sin, whether we're making the content or guys watching corn.
01:31:46.920
Hold on. Wait. So in terms of, you think consuming pornography is at the same level of creating
01:31:53.660
it? A sin is a sin. Yes. Oh, a sin is a sin. So you think that stealing a penny is just as
01:31:59.400
sinful as murdering a baby in their crib then? In God's eyes. I just want to make sure that
01:32:04.200
we're clear on that. In God's eyes? In God's eyes, yeah. I don't know. God's probably wrong
01:32:07.300
on that shit. In God's eyes, you think that stealing a penny is the equivalent of murdering
01:32:10.720
a child inside of a crib. I just want to make sure we're clear on that. May I? So there's
01:32:14.920
a great movie. I wish I could, somebody please write it in the comments. You'll know what
01:32:18.800
I'm talking about. In the comments. Write that shit. Write that shit. But it's saying that,
01:32:22.620
you know, you can have a liar say, yeah, I lie, but at least I don't steal. And then you
01:32:25.760
have a thief saying, yeah, I steal, but at least I don't kill. And it goes up and up and
01:32:29.360
up. So we all have our own sin. So are you agreeing that stealing a penny is the same
01:32:34.520
as murdering a baby in the crib? In the Christian faith, based off of God's law, all sins are
01:32:41.480
equal. Really? Have you ever read Paul? Have you ever read Corinthians? Have you ever read
01:32:46.760
what Paul put down? Paul says sexual sin is worse than other types of sin. He literally
01:32:53.200
says that. He literally says that. Are you unaware? Are you unaware of this? Are you unaware?
01:32:58.160
Are you unaware? He says sins against the flesh are the worst kind. But based off of when Moses
01:33:04.380
came down and he had the Ten Commandments, and based off of the Ten Commandments, we had the ones
01:33:08.880
based off of how we follow the faith and respect God, which I believe are the first five. You can
01:33:13.340
correct me on that. And then the remaining five are our Ten Commandments in society. And it wasn't
01:33:20.280
said that this one is worse or that one. I assume you're not Jewish, right?
01:33:25.360
No, not Jewish. Okay, so then I assume that you read the New Testament and the New Covenant
01:33:30.040
and you follow the laws of Jesus Christ to put down the New Testament, correct?
01:33:33.800
So I'll clarify. I am not a pastor in any way, but I do like to try to learn what I can on certain
01:33:41.140
topics. Hold on. Wait, wait. Just going maybe directed at you guys. Hold on. Okay. What's worse?
01:33:47.200
Stealing a penny or murdering? I mean, that's true. That wasn't in the movie. Paul's teachings
01:33:52.500
wasn't in the movie. My bad. I mean, what was I thinking? This is ego. This is my personal
01:33:57.100
ego. We're going to want to say a penny is less. Hold on. One sec here. One sec. What's worse?
01:34:00.200
Stealing a penny or murdering a baby? One has more consequences than obviously. But no, no,
01:34:06.740
no. What's worse? In God's eyes, it's the same sin. Really? No, it's not. That's the stupidest
01:34:11.240
thing I've ever heard. How can any rational human being believe that that is the truth, that stealing
01:34:17.180
a penny is akin to the Lord and akin to Jesus Christ of killing a baby in the crib? That doesn't
01:34:25.240
sound insane to you? It's not. But this is coming from our place of ego where we want to justify,
01:34:30.920
well, okay, I did this, but at least I didn't do that. But that's that slippery slope, right? No,
01:34:35.840
it's not a slippery slope. And you can't go to the slippery slope when you're making an argument
01:34:40.160
because it's fallacious. I'm not coming from a society. I'm coming from the understanding of
01:34:46.300
that Christian faith. Now you asked me about my understanding of the Bible and you're assuming
01:34:50.520
what I read. For me, I have issues in the modern day translations. When I was baptized, when I was
01:34:56.400
18, I took to the Bible. I wanted to understand what I was doing. And I had an issue with Genesis
01:35:02.160
right off the get-go because it says day one, there was this day two was this day three was this.
01:35:06.220
And then it was like day four that God created the sun and the moon. And I was like, well, how does a
01:35:09.960
sun in it? Like, how does a day exist without the sun and the moon when that's one rotation of our
01:35:14.240
planet? That's not what it says. That's why you got it wrong. You got it wrong because it never
01:35:18.060
actually directly correlates with the moon. It just says two lights. And this is why you got it
01:35:22.620
incorrect. But no, but then it was clarified with day and night, but you can't have- No, that's not
01:35:28.620
clarified. We don't know what a day and night is to God. You don't know that. In the beginning, day one,
01:35:33.500
God created. When I decided to understand when my, was like, hold on, how does a day exist without
01:35:39.900
the sun existing? That doesn't make sense to me. When I looked at the original Hebrew, it was saying
01:35:45.980
that the original translations word meant like era or period or an undefined amount of time. So God
01:35:51.200
created the universe in several eras. Hold on. We're getting, we're getting into, we're getting,
01:35:55.960
this is, hold on. I'm just saying, I don't follow the specific Bibles that you're saying that I do.
01:36:00.240
Okay. Hold on. Let's just go around the table. Just answer this question. What's, what is worse?
01:36:05.980
Murdering a baby or stealing a penny? Starting, we'll start over here. We'll go around. I'll start,
01:36:12.040
I'll start. Murdering a baby is way worse. It's way worse. It's worse in every conceivable way than I
01:36:16.940
could ever think of. Let's just have them answer. Let's have them answer. Go ahead. Based off of our
01:36:20.760
societal law, that's obvious. Okay. Okay. What other, what other angle are you looking at this from?
01:36:28.080
I'm not claiming any faith here, but I'm saying based off the questions directed at you.
01:36:33.560
Andrew, TikTok doesn't cover Paul's teaching, so she has no idea. Young lady, your understanding
01:36:40.340
of the Bible is flawed. Please stop wasting everyone's time by prattling on about things
01:36:45.780
you do not know. So finishing the question that was originally with you, right? And with your faith
01:36:53.300
in Christianity, it is that in God's eyes, based off of your faith and what the two of
01:36:57.820
you believe is all sins are equal based off of the Ten Commandments. Hold on. Let me just,
01:37:02.360
let me just ask it as a secular question. Why don't we just remove religion from the question?
01:37:08.220
What's worse? Baby killer. Oh, okay. Yeah. Murder is worse. Yeah. Murdering a baby.
01:37:15.580
Well, I had an abortion, so I would be considered a baby killer. And in God's eyes, all sin is sin.
01:37:24.040
So. No, listen, you can be forgiven for that. Yeah. Forgiveness is for every sin. Listen, there's,
01:37:29.120
I, there's women out there who've fallen for that propaganda from the secular nation. You could be
01:37:35.240
forgiven for that. And I, you know what I mean? You can move past that. You don't have to have bad
01:37:40.400
theology because you're trying to cover for that. Just so you know, it's not necessary. But to me,
01:37:45.660
all sin is sin. So. Wait, but what's worse? It's the same sin in God's eyes. No, no, no. But if it's
01:37:51.380
like, if you're looking at it from a secular perspective. From a secular, like, yeah, of course,
01:37:56.980
killing a baby is, is worse. Wait, so then, but let's say you are religious then. Do, are you arguing
01:38:03.780
that religious people will view both of those at the same level? I mean, one has, one has way
01:38:10.000
worse of a consequence. So one is going to do way more damage to the other family, to obviously
01:38:15.200
the life that is lost. But couldn't, couldn't you still make a determination, even if you
01:38:19.720
were religious, that one is worse than the other, regardless of the consequences? How about
01:38:25.380
this? What about the murder? Wait, wait, wait, hold on, wait, wait, hold on, hold on. Okay.
01:38:29.400
So what if, what if the murderer, you mentioned consequences. What if they just, the, they never
01:38:36.860
discover that this person committed the murder and then the person who stole the penny, there
01:38:40.860
was video evidence of it and they're prosecuted for, I don't know, misdemeanor theft, petty
01:38:46.020
theft. So the consequences you could argue would be worse for the ones stealing the penny.
01:38:52.260
So are you saying that people who are religious cannot make a determination as to what's worse?
01:38:58.400
I think we look at things through Christ's eyes. And so we look at things in all the same
01:39:02.840
way. So sin is a sin, no matter what it is. I think that's how we, is this actually religious
01:39:07.920
doctrine? Well, congratulations, by the way, you have just yielded all Christian ground to
01:39:12.900
secular ethics and have made secularists look like they're the ones who are moral and we're
01:39:17.380
the ones who are lunatics. Because all of you just got done saying that secularists would
01:39:22.360
consider this thing, which is obviously 10 times more, no, I'm sorry, 10 million times more
01:39:27.040
egregious than stealing a penny. They would consider it worse, but you wouldn't. You just
01:39:31.220
gave the enemies of Christianity, the moral high ground, you fools. I can't believe that you people
01:39:36.840
are out here preaching anything. I'm not a preacher. That's the last thing I do. I get into
01:39:40.900
politics. That's it. But you just gave the enemies of your religion, the moral high ground.
01:39:47.300
I can't, it's, it's unfathomable to me. It's unfortunate that that's how you're taking it when
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in the faith. Because it's true. All sins are equal means don't steal the penny. It's as equal
01:39:57.980
as doing this. Don't lust after another man's wife as it's as equal as doing this. So the whole point
01:40:03.840
is saying you have no, you have to take accountability. You cannot excuse the sins
01:40:08.640
you're choosing. Then why did Jesus Christ say that? Why did Jesus Christ talk about who had the
01:40:13.440
greater sin when he was delivered to Pilate then? Can you explain that to me? He said that all those
01:40:17.500
without sin, like cast the first stone or something like that. No, no, that's not my question. Why did
01:40:21.800
he, why did he say when he was delivered to Pilate, who had the greater sin in delivering him to
01:40:26.860
Pilate? Why did he say that? You don't even know what I'm talking about. No, I understand that after
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he was, after he left the priests because they couldn't condemn him, condemn him. So then they took
01:40:40.880
them to the Romans hoping that he would instead condemn them on their behalf. So they didn't make an
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enemy of all of the faith believers, but I don't know that word for word. So I can't, like I have
01:40:51.260
my feelings on it, but I don't know that based off memory. Is there an actual scripture that says
01:40:56.220
all sin is equal? No, not only that. So where is it, where does that come from? Paul specifically
01:41:02.200
explains why sexual sin is a more egregious sin than other types of sin. Because it's a sin against your
01:41:07.900
body. He's highly specific about this. He says because it's a sin against your own body. That's right,
01:41:12.340
because it's a sin against your own body. And by the way, blaspheming against the Holy Spirit is the
01:41:16.100
greatest sin. Yes? Yep. Yeah. So it's this sin above all other sins? Yeah. I guess they're not all
01:41:22.200
fucking equal, are they? I mean, I didn't, I definitely don't necessarily agree with that. I think that
01:41:28.340
forgiveness is available and free for anyone, but there are sins that are, you know, worse than others.
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Where does this whole all sin is equal thing? It comes from the church and I think it, you know,
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it comes from the church. Which church? Which church? There's only two churches. I'm reading
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something. There's the Catholic church and everything else that doesn't count because
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it fractioned off 300 years ago, right? So which church says this? Which one? I'm reading something
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here. Every sin deserves God's wrath and curse, but not every sin is the same in God's eye. That's not
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from scripture, but there is something Proverbs 6, 16 to 19 identifies seven things that God hates,
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although there's not any punishment prescribed for those. Some that he detests and one that he hates,
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right? So I don't, anyways, let's finish that question. What's worse? Killing a baby. Murder. Killing
01:42:18.840
a baby. Killing a baby. Now, what if it's like a, you know, one of these older pennies that is like
01:42:25.900
worth a couple dollars? Does that change anything? Look at this, look at this. The women sitting,
01:42:32.480
sitting across from the Christian, who do you think to the population right now sounds sane?
01:42:40.520
The ones on the other side who, some of them are current prostitutes telling you murdering a baby
01:42:46.060
is worse than stealing a penny or your delusional bullshit that stealing a penny is the equivalent
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of that in God's eye. Who do you think people are really going to move towards? Because I can tell
01:42:55.760
you which one sounds rational and to me, which one sounds irrational.
01:42:58.800
At no point. What if they're a coin collector, Andrew? What if they're a coin collector and the
01:43:06.240
baby is future Adolf Hitler? Yeah. You know what I mean? I think that Deadpool had that. Okay.
01:43:14.040
Here, let me read some, or actually no, we were done on chats. Let's get it back to dating guys.
01:43:19.400
Let's talk about dating, dating podcast, you know, dating podcast. All right. Andrew, on another podcast
01:43:25.540
you were on, you actually had a really fantastic back and forth about submission, being submissive.
01:43:31.540
And I think that's a conversation that could definitely be interesting here. Vesper, in one
01:43:35.000
of your show notes or in your pre-show notes, you said you wanted to talk about what it means for a
01:43:40.180
man to lead a relationship and what women are asking for when saying they want a man to lead them.
01:43:46.200
Do you want to, uh, expand on your point? Um, it was more of just a topic that I wanted to talk
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about in general. I think that whenever say they want, whenever women say they want a man to lead,
01:43:59.640
I think that men interpret that as something different than what women mean.
01:44:03.720
What, why don't explain that for us? Um, I don't know. I can only speak on myself. Whenever I say that
01:44:10.420
I want a man to lead my relationship, I mean, lead like where our future is going. So deciding on
01:44:16.820
when we're getting married, if we're getting married, deciding when we're getting engaged,
01:44:20.160
deciding if we're buying a house, um, controlling finances, controlling our future basically is what
01:44:26.660
I would interpret that as. So wait, one thing, but we'll come back to that. But is this related to,
01:44:33.780
because you also said in your notes here that you're in a 24 seven free use, free use lifestyle
01:44:39.920
slave thing with your boyfriend? What is, what is that? Um, I think that they're related. Free
01:44:45.920
use is when you're available for sex and anytime. 24 seven. Okay. You have a constant BDSM dynamic.
01:44:53.840
They'd be interested in hearing about, I don't know. Maybe. Okay. All right. Well,
01:44:58.720
let's go back to the leading thing. Uh, going around the table. Do you think, do you want
01:45:03.260
your boyfriend's date, whatever it may be to lead? Um, generally in an, in not speaking sexually?
01:45:13.860
Yes. Wait, not sexually. I mean, not in any context of sexualization. Yes. I would want him to be like
01:45:20.460
the leader, like making the calls on like potential, like homes, making the calls on jobs, like,
01:45:25.300
but not topics like that. What do you mean? Not sexually? I just mean, I don't have any, uh,
01:45:30.360
comment on this, like in any sexual interpretation. I think because you added that in as part of
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what it was for my notes. Yeah. That was just an unrelated segue, but I mean, someone could
01:45:44.200
obviously lead in the bedroom. Right. You don't have comments on, on the preference there or just in,
01:45:51.380
in your question. Yes. Um, I generally would want my boyfriend or whoever's in the picture to lead,
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but not in the bedroom. I just don't have a comment. I, um, choose not to speak on just
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like anything sexual like that. All right. Um, dating, dating podcast, by the way. Wait,
01:46:11.060
so you're, you, you, you can't even say yes. I would like, you know, someone a little lead,
01:46:16.440
you know, um, yeah, just, just answer. But you don't want to talk about anything sex related.
01:46:22.700
Um, I mean, I guess it just depends on the question, but it seems like a pretty innocuous
01:46:27.480
question on this podcast. No, I wouldn't like to speak on anything like directly. Good job,
01:46:34.900
Madison. All right. What about you? I expect my husband to lead. Yeah. Uh, yeah, I'd prefer that.
01:46:41.640
Me too. Yes. Lead. But obviously we talk about things too at the same time, but he has the,
01:46:49.300
the main authority in the household. Yeah. Lead. Yes. Yeah. I'm surprised that's a cross panel.
01:46:59.260
Yeah. All right. What about being submissive? Will you be submissive to your boyfriend starting with
01:47:07.700
you? Um, yes, I am. Uh, no. What do you mean by that? Being submissive? Yeah. Like I know people
01:47:22.760
have different senses of what that means, but I suppose, um, following his lead, being compliant.
01:47:27.740
Not like fully. Yes. So. Okay. Andrew, can you think of a, perhaps an example here that might help
01:47:38.100
me, uh, kind of like a scenario? Yeah. Your husband decides one day as you come to him and you say that,
01:47:46.380
um, you don't like how the finances are being spit and he says, well, I understand, but I'm going to go
01:47:52.440
ahead and dismiss your opinion because I don't care and we're doing this thing instead. Um, yeah,
01:48:01.640
no, you're a harsh leader. More like a dictator. That's why I'm sorry. How's that dictatorship? I
01:48:09.880
thought, uh, I thought he's the head of the household and you're submissive. Wait, before,
01:48:13.660
before I have you guys do back and forth, let me have everybody answer the question.
01:48:17.080
If he's the head of the household, then would you be submissive? Okay. Um, I wouldn't be with a guy
01:48:24.960
who wouldn't take my opinion at all to discuss and say, I don't care about what you're saying.
01:48:30.360
That's not a real loving relationship. Right. That's not submissive. He could say, I hear what
01:48:35.260
you're saying, but I think this is better this way. Let's try it and try it that way for a while,
01:48:39.860
but it's all about communication. Here, we'll get, we'll get everybody's answer before you agree with her.
01:48:46.200
Okay. Yeah. So, uh, would I be submissive? Absolutely. Like, but I think there's a healthy
01:48:52.280
way to approach it. Like the way that he talks is very like dictatorship. My husband does, I'll give
01:48:58.060
an example. There was a documentary. I like the dictatorship. I think so there, no, that's not
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because the Bible says that the husband should lay down his life as Christ did for the church for his
01:49:08.860
wife. So it's always done. I'm going to pass on that part of the, it is a part of the Bible. The
01:49:15.340
leadership. I agree. Just, I would pass on the whole laying down. But the leadership should be
01:49:20.060
done in love. So for example, I really thought that I should be in this particular documentary
01:49:25.080
called, uh, after porn ends, it was part two. And my husband was like, no, I do not want you in that.
01:49:31.740
They show a lot of nudity, but I really felt like God was saying you need to be in it, but there needs
01:49:36.720
to be boundaries. So I told my husband, okay, fine. Like I, I'm going to submit to you on this and I'm not
01:49:41.680
going to be a part of this documentary. He did it in love with deep conviction. I kept taking it to
01:49:46.560
prayer and I'm like, God, like, I really feel like you're saying yes. So I had a conversation with my
01:49:51.620
husband after feeling the Lord was speaking to me. And I told him, Hey love, like, I really feel like
01:49:56.660
this is a way that we could make a dynamic difference in the world. And we had already missed
01:50:01.460
the opportunity for part two. And he, and then he prayed about it and said, you know what? I think
01:50:05.000
you're right. I'm sorry. Let me just, what's your answer to the question? I'm sorry. I just,
01:50:08.680
we're, I want to give everybody an opportunity to speak. Go ahead.
01:50:13.060
Uh, no, I, I, I don't think the husband can be the leader of the household if you're not
01:50:17.200
submissive, but you have to have discernment that he respects you and he still is willing
01:50:21.080
to have a conversation. So you understand why, even if you don't agree with it, at least you
01:50:26.040
understand why he's making these choices. So you need discernment in your partner who you're
01:50:29.740
willing to be submissive for. That doesn't sound like submission. Well, you should choose your
01:50:35.320
partner. Well, like you should choose a man that you could trust to lead you. Yeah, I know.
01:50:39.780
Don't you trust your man to tell you to shut up and you're wrong and that he's not, he's going to
01:50:43.520
spend the money. Hang on. Don't you trust your man? Don't you trust your own discernment that you
01:50:47.900
married well enough that you can trust your husband to tell you if you're being retarded and that you're
01:50:52.080
spending the money incorrectly and that he's going to do what he wants. Absolutely. I have a wonderful
01:50:55.780
husband. I have absolutely no complaints about him. He is a gentleman. He is strong. He is led by the
01:51:00.280
Holy Spirit. Everything that he does is he does in love. But your approach is very harsh, very
01:51:06.140
condemning. It's honestly Christ-like. So what? Kindness is not a Christian virtue for the 300th
01:51:12.440
time to the dumb women out there. Kindness. It's one of the fruit of the spirit. What are you
01:51:18.660
talking about? Niceness. Niceness. Nice. Being fucking nice is not a Christian virtue. I don't know who
01:51:25.700
came up with this shit, but it's nonsense. Being nice is not virtuous. Virtue. I mean,
01:51:31.720
nowhere in the Bible did I hear Christ say the F word. When we're talking about what is or is not
01:51:37.580
virtuous. Niceness is not virtue. Do you mean to lead is to teach? Do you have a happy marriage? You
01:51:42.560
use the leader in your home. That's your wife. Can we love on her? Andrew, I'm curious. I also believe
01:51:51.940
that the leader of the house is also a teacher of the house, and that's how you raise your sons.
01:51:56.200
That's how you raise your daughters. So if you were making a choice in your household, wouldn't you want
01:52:00.720
your family to understand? So then in the later generations, they know why you made your choices?
01:52:05.700
So this is actually in a side point, and let me address it directly. Sometimes, yeah, maybe most
01:52:12.420
of the time. And that's all I ask of my husband, so I can use that as learning. Hang on, hang on.
01:52:17.520
Sometimes women are irrational, and they're morons, and they act like morons, and they can become
01:52:22.340
highly irrational. And when that happens, it's necessary, literally necessary to say, no, you're
01:52:29.480
being stupid, and we're going to do what I want, and I'm not even going to explain it. I don't need to
01:52:33.700
explain it. Real submission comes in understanding this. You are the head, the head. The body does
01:52:40.800
not function without the head, but the head can function without the body. That is the truth.
01:52:45.500
And so if you're looking at this objectively through a Christian lens, again, Paul, very clear
01:52:51.720
on the teachings here. No, you can't disrespect your wife. No, you're not allowed to step out on your
01:52:57.080
wife. Yes, you have to take the bullet before your wife does. Absolutely, all of that's true.
01:53:00.900
But guess what? You get the big piece of chicken, you get to make the decisions ultimately,
01:53:06.340
and you don't have to explain yourself because you think it's not very nice.
01:53:14.620
It's a dictatorship, sweetheart? What makes it a dictatorship?
01:53:17.460
Thank you, AB Check. AB Check, thank you for the gift of 50. Go ahead, go ahead.
01:53:20.900
Yeah, it's just like, you're like, I'm the boss, and this is how it's going to go. Like,
01:53:26.620
Yeah, that's Christianity. You better learn it.
01:53:31.160
Yeah, it is. What do you know? You're a female pastor.
01:53:36.120
Literal heretic. How could you ever tell me what Christianity is or isn't?
01:53:40.220
Christ. I mean, just to clarify, I am not a pastor.
01:53:44.120
Okay, I have said that many times, okay? I'm not a pastor. Anyways, regardless, the Bible
01:53:50.300
says to lay down. How are you laying down your life for your wife?
01:53:55.840
How are you, answer my question. How are you laying down your life for your wife? How?
01:54:03.760
What do you mean? My decision-making skills are what protects my family, including my wife.
01:54:09.280
It protects everybody. That's what patriarchy is. That is what the ecclesiastical church is.
01:54:18.300
That's what Christianity is. Your church is there to protect you from you because you're a sinner.
01:54:25.580
And you need the patriarchy and the ecclesiastical authority to tell you what's what.
01:54:29.980
You have the head knowledge, but you do nothing with love.
01:54:33.980
Yeah, and you have what's called head canon. You don't know what the hell you're talking about.
01:54:38.060
And you believe on top of that, that females can be ordained ministers and that it's useful
01:54:43.700
and necessary and that it's heretical. It's literally heresy.
01:54:48.380
I'm not trying to backpedal. We're trying to have a conversation on marriage right now
01:54:52.960
and the man being the leader. I agree that the man is the leader.
01:54:56.060
But I also said that just as the Bible said, you laid down your life for your wife.
01:55:03.200
The Bible also says that if you have the gift of prophecy, if you can speak in tongues,
01:55:14.560
The Bible says if you can speak in tongues, it says that.
01:55:25.160
No, I'll answer your question as soon as you answer this one.
01:55:28.280
Hey, you're trying to control the conversation here.
01:55:31.440
Yeah, that's because I'm a patriarch. Do you speak in tongues?
01:55:43.240
Okay, go ahead. Say it again. I'll answer your question first.
01:55:45.760
Why is tongues unbiblical when it clearly says in the Bible,
01:55:49.040
if you speak in tongues, yet you have not love, you have nothing.
01:55:56.220
Do you know what Pentecost is? Do you even know?
01:56:00.440
Yeah, it's when the tongue flames a fire, all of that, 40 days up.
01:56:11.980
Wait, Andrew, you were asking her if she speaks in tongues.
01:56:14.220
Yeah, I was asking her, but she asked me a question.
01:56:25.880
I mean, I'm not going to do it for your pure pleasure.
01:56:37.080
It's a gift of the spirit, and it is what it is.
01:56:42.060
Payton, you want her to speak in tongues, right?
01:56:49.940
I'm not going to do something like that for your pure pleasure.
01:56:59.620
If that's what you think I am, you should be able to speak in tongues anywhere and show
01:57:22.560
Is it righteous or unrighteous to speak in tongues?
01:57:28.180
It's not unrighteous, so therefore it's righteous, but it doesn't mean that every single...
01:57:33.420
Something could not be something and still not be the other thing, but just granting that
01:57:36.500
it is, that it is righteous because you say it is, then how could you possibly be doing
01:57:47.760
All right, look, look, I think you actually wanted to have a comment with, or a little
01:57:52.880
back and forth with Andrew about the being submissive thing.
01:58:00.200
When it came to being submissive to your boyfriend, partner.
01:58:21.980
No, I think, yeah, having discernment in somebody who...
01:58:31.800
God made the Ten Commandments to let people know that they can't work their way into heaven.
01:58:36.000
Therefore, regardless of effort, it leads them to hell, except through Christ, Romans 3.20, James 2.10.
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Welcome to the religious version of the whatever podcast tonight.
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Drop us a prime sub over there if you're watching.
01:59:02.400
I mean, religion does have to do with dating, right?
01:59:09.600
I just have to say that this is most entertaining episode of whatever that I've seen in forever.
01:59:15.180
Smiley face, fire, hashtag Christ is king, hashtag stay comical and classy.
01:59:21.600
I'm trying to think of like there's the precise thing when you were on the other podcast, Andrew, when it came to being submissive.
01:59:38.500
Which is, yes, I'm submissive until it comes to be time for me to be submissive and that I'm not so submissive anymore.
01:59:54.300
Was it a table question, Andrew, or are you directing it at anybody specific?
01:59:58.920
Because I don't think they even got to really answer.
02:00:02.140
Well, we ended up in a heated exchange with the other gal.
02:00:05.080
I promise you not every exchange is going to be that heated.
02:00:08.360
But just so you guys understand, me and, what's her name, Brittany, we have completely different dogma.
02:00:17.880
But that's not going to be the case with everybody.
02:00:25.560
We're both Christians, and so we're pretty dogmatic when it comes to this.
02:00:50.660
And that's why these dogs, so the reason we had ecumenical councils, the reason that we have church history,
02:00:57.620
the reason that we can trace all of this back to apostolic succession, back to the original apostles,
02:01:02.000
is so that we know what is true and what is not when it comes to Christianity.
02:01:05.280
And the problem is, is we've ended up with this real good, feel-good bullshit that Christianity that I don't even understand.
02:01:12.120
I don't even understand how people come to it because it makes no sense.
02:01:15.180
So that's why when we're having these kinds of discussions, they can get heated because we have the opposition of dogmas.
02:01:21.420
So I'm willing to hear you out, though, right, on submission.
02:01:29.080
But I think as a Christian, your identity is so important.
02:01:32.140
And if you can't love, like, that's what Satan attacks the most is our hearts.
02:01:36.640
And if you can't love like Jesus did, then what's the point?
02:01:39.680
Like, if everybody was like him, the world would be an amazing place, obviously.
02:01:43.400
So if you're saying, I'm a Christian, but you're cold-hearted, you're angry, none of those things is how God was.
02:01:52.440
So you saying, like, all this feel-good, all this, this, it doesn't make sense.
02:01:56.620
But you're only taking one angle of the message.
02:01:59.080
You're only taking one aspect, and it's the aspect that you like.
02:02:02.380
Remember earlier when we were talking about hell?
02:02:10.640
Yeah, but if you understand how much he loves you, you don't want to sin.
02:02:25.360
When you are telling people that Christianity is just about niceness, it's just about love.
02:02:42.500
And it requires consequences, and it requires leadership, and it requires somebody to be ahead
02:02:50.700
And that's why the wife's role is to be submissive.
02:02:54.060
And that's why the Christian lens is so important in the modern dating market, and why it's so
02:02:57.900
important for women to understand it's a patriarchal system.
02:03:03.960
But I feel like you walk in a lot of, like, if you're trusting God, you're not walking
02:03:08.520
in anger and control and, like, all these things.
02:03:15.620
No, right there, that shows, like, you need something.
02:03:17.880
You listen to your flesh in order to feel better.
02:03:24.000
And that just goes to show, like, your relationship...
02:03:29.620
But you think that smoking is the same as being a prostitute, right?
02:03:35.240
Yeah, you think that smoking is the same as prostitution, don't you?
02:03:42.780
Do you think that smoking is like prostitution that is basically the same sin?
02:03:50.900
Smoking a cigarette is like you sucking a penis that's the same sin?
02:03:58.720
Is me smoking this cigarette like you having sucked a man's penis on film?
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God underscore, not underscore, the underscore devil donated $200.
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Prove to them you can speak in my tongue to his young students.
02:04:34.960
Prove to them you can speak in tongues, my tongues, young students.
02:04:46.220
It's just a heavenly language you give to the Holy Spirit.
02:04:50.360
But if you can't understand it, it doesn't mean...
02:05:05.500
Submit with a negative world outlook and a bad attitude in general law.
02:05:15.020
Not submit, not submit, but who's his confidence and swagger.
02:05:24.820
Hold on, we'll start with you going around the table.
02:05:27.840
Um, I'm gonna choose the first option because I'm so sorry, but I could never date a man who
02:06:04.520
Submit with a negative world outlook and a bad attitude in general.
02:06:26.140
Um, I would not be with a man who's submissive.
02:06:29.800
I don't like the negative outlook on the world.
02:06:33.080
I wouldn't want to be with someone, like, angry, negative.
02:06:41.940
I wouldn't have picked a negative person either.
02:06:44.380
Don't want negative and there's leg extension surgery.
02:06:59.960
You killing yourself and not being around for your family, it hurts yourself more.
02:07:08.480
You said that sucking a dick was like smoking a cigarette.
02:07:14.500
Well, you're going to be dead sooner than somebody who is stuck in D.
02:07:39.420
If Jesus was all love, explain why he went into the temple and pushed over tables and last
02:07:58.040
Do you have to like, is there like a Rosetta Stone for that?
02:08:09.620
I thought it was like, you have to be so deep into prayer to like.
02:08:15.600
So, this one, do you guys want to answer this one from the chill 808?
02:08:37.920
I mean, clearly, he said that you're making, it's supposed to be a house of prayer and you're
02:08:44.200
And so, therefore, he was rebuking the Pharisees for their sin.
02:09:00.040
He made a whip and he chased him out of the temple.
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Oh, let's do the dating profile review segment.
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So, we have, we have two dating profiles here that we're going to have of the two of the
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girls who are currently on, one's on Hinge, one's on Bumble.
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My most irrational fear, can I have you read it?
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I won't go in the ocean unless someone holds my hand.
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It's like just a glassy, like, ankle slapper day?
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No, like, I can, I won't, like, go in the ocean alone.
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So I need, like, someone near me so there's at least, like, a 50% chance.
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Wouldn't they just fuck both of you up instead, like the shark?
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All right, there's you and your gal pals, next.
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Like, you want a guy to act like he's in, like, what's a musical?
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You know, she wants to do a musical thing with you.
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If you swipe yes, two in the chat, you swipe no.
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I think everything else was great, but the musical thing...
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Someone says, blink, be kind, says you might change your mind about the kids.
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Yeah, there is potential to change my mind about it.
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Wait, actually, going around the table on this, who here is on birth control?
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Oh, you are kind of on birth control a little bit.
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And it's like, perfect form of birth control, I guess.
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So, those of you who are single, what does that really mean, right?
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I'm sure there's guys in the, you know, there's some guys in the picture.
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Maybe some, you know, maybe you date women too.
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So, I mean, I'm sure you're getting like hundreds of matches, tons of messages.
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So, is it still the case on Bumble that you have to message first as a woman?
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So, you're, are you saying you've been celibate for a year?
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Well, I'm not declaring myself as celibate, but.
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You said that after work, you can find me at a party, right?
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Well, you, you, do you go to Santa Barbara City?
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She just called me and asked me if I wanted to do this.
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So not like, now how often do you guys actually party?
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We go, we go at least out like once every weekend, if we're being honest.
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If we're being honest, we should try to be honest here.
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Usually LA or Santa Barbara, like downtown Ivy, like here.
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And you're never encountering any, any gentlemen?
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I mean, there definitely is the like interactions, like the highs, the, what do you do?
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But there's just no one really who I've met yet.
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So in order for you, in order for you to need to date somebody, you have to feel starstruck.
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So would you, do you think that you're, you're very picky?
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We definitely have the same beliefs on a lot of things, but someone who isn't very hard
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head and set on their beliefs, someone who's not, who, wait, you're saying you want somebody
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who's not like headstrong in terms of their beliefs.
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I would, I would, I also like the sense of open-mindedness, even if they maybe like don't
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So are you saying you'd want someone, their views, you'd want to like try to shift their
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Um, I just, someone who has their beliefs, but they're open to new beliefs.
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Not necessarily as mine, just like maybe something they're not.
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Like, is that the most important thing for you?
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What, what are the things like in terms of your standards?
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Typically goes to the gym quite often, even though I don't.
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Um, I, wait, so you want a guy, like, what do we, can you think of like, what's the physique
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Not necessarily shredded, just more on the muscular side.
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Give it, can you give us a name of like somebody on social media we can look up so we know like
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what the guy aesthetically has to look like for you to be down to date him?
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I can't give like a specific on like the absolute standard, but I can give my celebrity crush
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Okay, we were talking about like physical aesthetic.
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That's a fairly achievable physique for a young guy.
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Well, actually, it's not totally unreasonable, but...
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Is it specifically him going to the gym or just being fit?
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They don't have to go to like Gold's gym every single day.
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Wouldn't it help you to meet that type of guy if you went to the gym yourself?
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I don't know if anyone considers cheer a sport, but that's about the most like athletic
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I want to be with someone who is in the medical field with me.
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So what if you meet a guy who meets your other standards, but they're not in the medical
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Let's just say they're a student and they don't know yet.
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I'm sure there's a laundry list of things here.
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You think you're just going to hold on to that?
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Or are you going to try to maybe lower your standards a little bit?
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I think you'd have a hard time finding somebody who meets all those criteria.
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That's also why my last relationship was in high school.
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I mean, how many people who are 21 are going to already be involved in the medical field?
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I mean, most people your age are probably still working on college, right?
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They don't have to be currently working as an ER tech, per se.
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So you are saying you've been celibate for a year?
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I don't think your list is unreasonable, but having like non-negotiables and negotiables.
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So like, what are things that I'm willing to budge on and what are things that I'm not?
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Willing to budge on, going to the gym, not like, that's not like has to, has to, and currently
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Yeah, I'm trying to get used to it, being alone.
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You've been getting used to it for six months now?
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You, uh, so there's no guys in the picture whatsoever?
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Did you go out of, wait, did you go to school here?
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What was the last time you had a little fling thing?
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And, um, but that was a, was it a one-time thing?
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Was this a guy you've been seeing for a while, or?
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Do you, like, set up a little table at your house, and you, like, pour glasses of wine
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for him, and is it like in a, like, do you pretend he's there?
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Do you guys, you guys on dates, or what do you?
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You know, there's been some guy, there's some guys in the picture.
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You guys are coming for each other or something.
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I think the boys back home are different, though, too.
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Wait, the boys in Seattle are better than the California boys?
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With my experience, I feel like the guys, like, down here are, like, very, very chill
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and, like, don't put that much, like, time or dedication into a lot of things.
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Um, they need to be able to, like, make me laugh.
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I like, not, like, when they're the center of attention, but, like, they, like, know how
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Like, I don't have to, like, if I want to introduce them to, like, a party or something, and, like,
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I'm bringing them to a party, I don't want to have to babysit them all night.
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You know, that's, I, my first boyfriend taught me that because he was phenomenal at it, and
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Okay, so just make you laugh and be sociable at parties?
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Okay, well, that doesn't really have to do with her pickiness, but.
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I, I definitely think, like, I have to have someone who, like, goes with my vibe.
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Because, like, I feel like if I'm like, hey, like, do you want to go on a hike?
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Like, I want someone who will just, like, jump up and go with me.
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I don't really like anything less than, like, 5'10".
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Like, when my family invites you to go golfing, like, go golfing with us.
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Who here's, okay, when it comes to, let's do three things.
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You want, do you want a guy to plan dates, pay for dates, uh, and then what was that?
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Do you want your, do you want your guy to be chivalrous?
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Well, let me ask, let me ask a question before we get into that.
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So, uh, will you take your husband's last name?
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Um, now let me just, here, let's assume it's a bad last name.
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Well, I suppose you could, but, but that wouldn't be taking his last name.
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Well, I've always wanted to hyphenate my last name.
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We don't need to give an example of what, just, whatever the bad name is in your head.
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I mean, if it was, okay, if it's really important to him and I'm like thinking about settling
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Yeah, if it's like really important to him, that's like my husband.
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It's like a powerful, like, I feel like they could get me into so many doors, like, Trump.
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That's, but yeah, I think that you would go for Dixon, though.
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My mom did not take my dad's last name and I'd like to keep it the same.
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Did you, so is your last name your mom's last name or your last name?
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How many kids or how many siblings do you have?
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I have a twin sister from my mom's side, but from my dad's side, I have three half brothers.
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Wait, I thought you said you took your mom's last name.
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But how come you ended up with your dad's last name?
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How come she didn't take his last name, but then gave you his last name?
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Wait, but so why wouldn't you take your husband's last name?
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Um, I mean, from this standpoint, it's just in honor of my mom.
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I know she would, she would choose for me to keep my last name in the picture.
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Isn't it your dad's last, or I'm sorry, it's your mom's last name you said, right?
02:36:57.840
But in the previous question, you said you want a guy to be chivalrous, pay for first
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dates, um, open the car door for you, plan the first date.
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I assume you'd want him to be chivalrous in other ways.
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When it comes to your relationship dynamics, perhaps with your future partner, well, do you
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Um, do you want to be 50-50 in the relationship?
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But I thought you just said you want the guy to pay for the first date.
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I mean, I, ideally, like, in a relationship, I do want to be 50-50.
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And even on a first date, I will always try to pay.
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I, I really do prefer, like, on a first date to not pay for, for them to not pay for me.
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But in a relationship, like, I, I do, I ideally would want it to be 50-50.
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But chivalry is still, like, on the table in terms of not financially.
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Wait, so on the first date, you're fine if they don't pay for the date?
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It's just kind of, I don't know, you don't want to take the husband's last name, but you
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It's not, I don't know, it's not a real fair shake.
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What if he wants you, what if he wants you to take his last name?
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Not a deal breaker, I would just say I really wouldn't prefer it.
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He says, yeah, but any wife of mine needs to share my last name and so do my children
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so that we can be the Smiths or the Rogers and not, you know, the Smiths, but you're,
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So, I mean, if he, if he wanted that, would that really be a deal breaker?
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You would, you would, like, get rid of a potential, you know, husband for the rest of your life
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because he said that he wanted you to take his last name?
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Thinking of it, thinking of it, okay, I'm sorry.
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Thinking of it again, if I'm dating someone for years and years and they say they would
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really want me to take their last name, then honestly, I think I would.
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But if it's just like, I met you on a first date.
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If it's just two years and they, you know, he wants to get married to you, but he's like,
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you know, you say yes, but you're like, I don't want to take your last name.
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Then there is potential for me to change my mind, I think.
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And I think men should not hold car doors open and do any chivalrous stuff.
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And, you know, if somebody breaks into the house, maybe you can deal with it.
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I mean, if someone breaks into the house, I don't, I don't know what I'm going to do.
02:40:25.860
Well, you realize, you realize from, um, from like the man's perspective that what you would
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be telling him is that you wanted to honor your mother, but not honor him.
02:40:40.020
Doesn't that sound, doesn't that sound disrespectful and kind of horrible?
02:40:45.960
Well, you're saying I respect my mother and, you know, I want to keep her name, right?
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But he's like, well, you know, I was named after my father and have his last name.
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And, uh, you know, my mother had my father's last name and my grandmother had my grandfather's
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Isn't it a great sign of respect for you to take the last name of your husband rather
02:41:18.100
I guess I've never really thought about it before.
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So I, I can, I do understand your perspective of how it's from like a risk, like a respect
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Isn't that the reason, like what your motivation is?
02:41:32.960
You said, I want to keep that tradition alive as a sign of respect to your mother, right?
02:41:38.040
So then shouldn't that equally apply to your husband?
02:41:40.140
Um, it definitely is debatable, but I, I'm not very set.
02:41:48.460
This is really a hard question for me because I completely understand your perspective and
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where it's coming from as a respect standpoint from the husband.
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But also I think I would choose my mom over a husband.
02:42:02.500
Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait, wait, wait, wait.
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I just want to, before I say anything, I'd like to ask these great base Christian women
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on the panel, should she choose her mom over her husband, guys?
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It's when you get married, the whole point of marriage is that you're making a covenant
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And so you're leaving behind your mother and your father, and it's now a new season of
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And so to choose your mother over your husband is actually, yeah, that's, that's disrespectful
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Yeah, it's the ultimate, it's basically like the ultimate sign of, I couldn't actually think
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of anything more disrespectful than saying I would choose my mother over you.
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Isn't, isn't this supposed to be the man you're supposed to spend the rest of your life with?
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You, you become one with him because that's now your husband.
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So there's a point that I actually agree on with Mr. Andrew.
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Andrew may die sooner, but you would be in deeper depths of hell.
02:43:30.680
Prostitution is not the same as smoking a cigarette.
02:43:34.680
These feminist Christians are getting out of hand.
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The amount of feminism in modern Christianity is insanity.
02:43:59.020
These guys, if you ever heard that kind of nonsensical, if they were trying to have a moral argument
02:44:04.100
in the street, for instance, back in the days of old, the secularists would have walked
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They would have taken the whole crowd with them.
02:44:13.180
Wait, Nick, we have a, we have a, the first thing we have to react to, which is what?
02:44:23.260
What's the, what's the first one, the first app that we got to react to?
02:44:36.540
Stifler, ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of one to ten, starting with you.
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Your, your own self-assessment of your physical appearance?
02:45:14.680
I guess by the world standard, if I'm going to rate myself after having two children, I'd
02:45:32.140
I mean, I'm not, I'm not physically perfect and that's okay.
02:46:00.320
So, I mean, that's the thing, right, is there's, there is something, and this has been something
02:46:05.680
you've been suffering from all night called cognitive dissonance and a inability to grasp
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There is no fucking universe in which you are an eight.
02:46:16.060
Now, the thing is, is that that's not me being mean, I'm just giving you objective reality.
02:46:21.940
That is an objective standard that no, there's nobody on planet earth who would disagree with
02:46:35.300
No, I mean, I just think he, he's a very opinionated man.
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Since we're all, since we're all going to be delusional tonight, I'll just go with the maximum
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I like the poking of the bear, so I'll take this one.
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But I didn't say anything was wrong with your answer.
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You said everyone seems to be delusional, so I was just like, all right, I'm open to
02:47:31.180
Yeah, but do you actually believe you're five and a half, like, honestly?
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So if smoking a cig is the same as sucking a peen, then what if the guy with whom the
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peen is being sucked is smoking a cig at the same time?
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Is he also sucking a peen, or is he smoking a cigarette?
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You know, if you go rob little old ladies and then beat their brains in on the street,
02:47:58.880
But anyway, back to this, do you honestly think that you're a four?
02:48:12.240
Are you doing that because it's a humble brag, or are you doing it because it's actual
02:48:17.280
Like, this is a problem we run into all the time, right?
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And I think that a lot of women hide their answer.
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And so I'm just curious, like, is it actually true?
02:48:42.100
The reason why, like, I think I'm a little bit lower is, like, I have scoliosis.
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So if I'm not holding my posture properly, then, you know, it's not the most...
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And you think that that's an honest answer, right?
02:48:58.060
Well, then let me ask you if you can give me another honest answer.
02:49:00.800
Do you agree with the assessment of the girl who's sitting right next to you who just told
02:49:08.460
Yeah, you're not going to answer that fucking question, are you?
02:49:11.180
Yeah, I didn't think you were going to answer that.
02:49:15.300
I'll give, because at this point, I think your self-love is great, but I think the scales
02:49:20.580
they use in the past of, like, the most beautiful woman in the world, outside of skills and personality,
02:49:25.620
that, like, an eight is, like, Angelina Jolie when she was doing the Golden Globes in that
02:49:40.040
So, that's why I'm, like, okay, like, halfway mark, maybe I'll give myself a 0.5, because
02:49:49.340
Do you think you're better looking than she is?
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Everybody in this room is better looking than me.
02:50:10.980
Well, I thought you just got done saying we have an objective standard.
02:50:19.700
I think in men's eyes, if we were both wearing the exact same outfit and they were going to
02:50:26.120
approach one, it's blonde hair, blue eyes, a little bit younger, I think, at that point.
02:50:40.120
Do you think that the fact that she's 37 might also have something to do?
02:50:43.860
Do you think maybe the fact that she's 37 might also have something to do with that?
02:50:47.420
And that's why I said, give me somebody who's the same age and I'd be like, yeah, same age,
02:50:56.420
It doesn't seem a little bit delusional to you?
02:51:01.640
Like, a little tiny bit that that's the answer?
02:51:12.280
I'm saying everybody here, as opposed to me especially, is beautiful, great.
02:51:17.800
But that doesn't mean that the standard doesn't exist.
02:51:20.320
She just got them saying there's an objective standard.
02:51:25.200
She's like, well, okay, that actually doesn't make any sense.
02:51:37.780
I honestly don't care what you think I rate as because I am a 10 to my husband and I'm
02:51:48.380
I'm sure my wife thinks I'm a 10 too, but I'm fucking not.
02:52:15.360
You got to do it in such a way where it looks like it's okay if you're wearing a leather
02:52:28.540
I'm not even trying to pitch against one another.
02:52:30.060
I'm just saying if there is an objective standard, if there is an objective standard, right,
02:52:35.520
and you agree that there is, then these women's answers are not in any way credible to this
02:52:42.460
I just think for me, I'm not comparing myself to an Angelina Jolie.
02:52:45.140
I'm comparing myself to myself because I don't live in a world of comparison.
02:52:49.440
I don't sit and compare myself to the women sitting across from your neck.
02:52:53.200
Because I compare myself to what I once looked like.
02:53:00.760
But then you would be using the objective standard of the world.
02:53:05.480
There's no other standard you could be using, right?
02:53:06.100
I mean, but I'm not sitting comparing myself to other women.
02:53:08.840
I'm saying, okay, when I look at myself when I was like 21, like I was at my best version
02:53:16.320
As I've been aging, obviously, compared to what I used to look like, I am, I would deduct
02:53:23.380
But I'm not sitting here comparing myself to like any beautiful actors.
02:53:31.040
You may be the only woman on this channel to ever be honest with the ratings.
02:53:35.660
Regardless of the other crap you said tonight, I'm going to give you a W for vote.
02:53:40.160
With a capital, it's going to be capital W, right?
02:53:46.440
She made sure that she wasn't in any way, shape, or form a hypocrite with that standard.
02:53:54.860
Can you just tell us if these women's ratings are true or false?
02:54:18.280
I just, I feel like if you were to respond, though, that you would say that a little bit
02:54:27.120
And by the way, I've been sitting exactly where you're sitting.
02:54:29.140
And I know that on camera, all these women look way better than they do in person.
02:54:36.160
That's an observation that I've made being there many times.
02:54:57.440
I think the world wants us to compare, but I think-
02:55:04.460
I got to live in America at least for a month before I have the balls to be able
02:55:13.600
I'm illegally allowed to work here, but the maple syrup has to drain from my veins.
02:55:30.640
What would you want your daughter to rate herself at?
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From Brian with the inferior spelling of Brian.
02:55:49.300
If your daughter came to you and she was like, let's say she was a little fat kid, and she
02:55:54.080
came to you and she was like, hey, you know, I really want the guy who's the captain of
02:55:59.780
the football team who's out there with Cindy Lou, who is, you know, I don't know, a double
02:56:05.280
D, and she's gorgeous, and she has blonde hair.
02:56:09.060
Are you going to be like, well, you go get him, honey, because you're a 10?
02:56:11.900
Or are you going to be a little bit more realistic?
02:56:17.200
But maybe that football player likes that kind of girl.
02:56:19.200
The same thing with my boy would be like, yeah, that chick's way out of your fucking
02:56:23.240
But you don't know maybe that football player likes that.
02:56:28.960
I'm sure you can get in just after that, right?
02:56:31.800
What I'm saying, though, is that, yeah, I think I would be totally honest with her about
02:56:39.820
You have to be honest with people about what is true.
02:56:46.620
But, yeah, I think you have to be honest about things.
02:56:56.740
I had a shaved head, and I was in Boy Scouts, and I was getting bullied, and I went home crying
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Because all the girls' moms are saying how pretty they were.
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And I was getting called the boy and stuff like that, and my mom's response was, you're
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You know, I'm grateful, though, in a sense, because, like, when I was younger, oh, that
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hurt, like, balls, because I was like, oh, I am an ugly duckling as I'm getting bullied.
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But the thing was, my mom's goal was for me to base my life off of my character as a good
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person, and being, and that's why I, like, got, like, all those, what the hell are those,
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It's some reward for being, like, the nice person in school.
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And it was by doing good deeds, and so that's what I focused on versus focusing on my looks.
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And, like, my hair, I cut it for cancer to make a wig for kids, you know?
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So, like, it was, but, instead of it being about the looks, I'd be like, no, you are pretty,
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She's like, you're, she's like, enough people are going to tell you you're pretty when you're
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All right, we're going to make it bigger, please.
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But don't just, like, boss me around, you know?
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But don't just, like, boss me around, you know?
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I mean, it's the greatest thing I've ever seen in my life.
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Oh, we should have had Andrew's reaction while that was playing.
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That's the type of nonsensical thing that I hear nonstop all the time,
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Well, that's actually the primary reason is because of the inconsistency in women's ideology
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and the inconsistency in how they view relationships.
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But this is what we hear time and time and time again.
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And it's complete and total, from my purview, cognitive dissonance of,
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And there's a huge and ample array of studies which show that women basically all over the world,
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And I'll give those to Brian if he wants to show them to anybody.
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Basically, women everywhere are unhappy and miserable.
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But when they're pulled, right, they always have a lesser happiness index.
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Even in the countries where they're supposed to be the happiest,
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And it's because I think a lot of this feminism and westernized ideology has been exported.
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And basically women have forgotten what their place in the world is.
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You're grateful every day that he saved your life.
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And you want to spread that to other people, and you are happy.
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If you're not, then obviously there's something that you need to work on.
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So I think you're comparing it maybe to, I don't know where you get your stats, but it's definitely not.
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Well, you can find them over on Rachel Wilson's sub-stack.
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She did an entire article on this explaining where all of these different.
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Are there people Christians who have a relationship with Jesus?
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No, he's saying just women in general because of following the feminism movement.
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Yeah, but even if they identify as being Christians, they're still miserable.
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But, I mean, for me, I have had a close relationship to God for 12 years, and I've been consecutively, like, full of joy for the last 12 years.
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Like, you know, sure, I've had seasons, like, after giving birth where things were hard, but for the most part, I've had consecutive joy for 12 years.
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I understand what you're saying, but this really doesn't address what I'm saying, which is that there's many, many people who identify as being Christians who are still, especially females, seem to be quite miserable.
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Yeah, they must not be following him correctly.
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Oh, it's because, oh, it's because, wait, I thought there was no standard a minute ago.
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It's just about your relationship with the Lord.
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Yeah, I mean, I've met a lot of women in the church who are very unhappy.
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But then when I ask them about their spiritual walk, like, they don't read their Bible hardly ever.
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You should be praying and worshiping and spending time with God because the fruit of the Spirit is joy.
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And so if you're an unhappy person, then what's going on in your heart that's making you unhappy that you haven't either sought therapy or allowed Jesus to heal you from?
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It's called The Paradox of Declining Female Happiness.
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I highly recommend that people read this so that they understand it.
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But everything that you just said would still adhere to a standard, right?
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So you don't try to make your wife happy because she's already miserable?
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I'm going to sit here patiently while you explain how that even made sense.
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You're saying all women are miserable so you don't even have to do it.
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I said there is a paradox of the decline of female happiness globally and that basically everywhere you pull them, they're less happy than men.
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I feel like men are as honest with their emotions.
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Andrew, then how do you explain the fact that men are deleting themselves at higher rates, if that's true?
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And they're not as honest about their emotions.
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They both, actually, when it comes to unaliving, women and men are about on par with the attempts.
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It just happens that men are so good and skilled at basically everything they do that they actually follow through.
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They actually end up with determination, whereas women do not, because they fucking suck at it.
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I was just like, are men really better at putting in tampons?
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Like trans, I think trans women are probably better.
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Yeah, I'm sure that male doctors who are gynecologists probably are.
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But actually, like, trans women or whatever, like, I think they're kind of, like, better at a lot of shit.
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Well, like, I'll give you an example of what you're saying here, like what Brian is saying.
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I have yet to find a skilled pro-feminist female debater anywhere, anywhere.
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And I put out the call on the biggest platforms you can imagine.
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Pro-feminist debaters were pretty good, because I think they're men.
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Could men be deleting themselves due to this message?
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Could men be deleting themselves due to the feminist message?
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Feminism probably has definitely had an impact on it.
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These girls want honesty but can't be honest with themselves.
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If you can't tell me a single verse, nothing worse hearing OF girls talk about what's right and wrong
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Well, actually, I'll ask a question for Kill of Serial here.
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I definitely have values of a feminist, but I wouldn't say, like, I'm a hardcore, like,
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Andrew Wilson from Rachel Wilson, the wife of Andrew Wilson.
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Andrew's a wonderful husband, and he makes me very happy, but he doesn't suffer nonsense,
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Yeah, well, there's nothing worse, and the Christians on the panel can tell you, than
03:07:56.160
Yeah, so you're a feminist, you're a feminist, so what does that mean?
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Definitely not, like, proclaim, like, I'm a feminist, but definitely just similar values.
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But would you agree, would you agree that you could be not a feminist, or even anti-feminist,
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I haven't, like, come across an anti-feminist who loves women, I think.
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You've not come across an anti- you do realize men can be feminists, women can be feminists,
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and so you've never come across an anti-feminist that does not hate women.
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She's saying that there's nobody she's met who is anti-feminine, who's a male, who doesn't
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No, I haven't personally met someone who declares himself as anti-feminist, who loves women.
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So, all the anti-feminists you've met hate women.
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But you do acknowledge that you can be anti-feminist and also not hate women.
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But all the ones you've met happen to have all hated women.
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I don't even think I've really come across someone who proclaims themselves as like, I'm
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so anti-feminist, like wears it on their forehead like that.
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I don't know why you've met one, because I'm anti-feminist.
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Being in the military and knowing like combat control, all these people that do special
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forces, like of course, women cannot do the same thing that they do, period.
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I mean, I'd say like I'm anti-feminist movement, because it stands for the abortion movement
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So, like, I'm not pro-abortion, amongst other things.
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Let's just say that feminist ideology didn't have anything to do with abortion.
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They went over to the pro-choice side because they thought there wasn't enough women in
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Would you then support feminist ideals absent abortion?
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Well, I definitely don't agree that women are equal to men.
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Like, I think the original movement might have started off with good intentions, like
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women being able to vote and women, you know, being able to work.
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But as far as, like, men and women being equal, like, I mean, my husband can lift a whole lot
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Should you have the same rights and privileges as men?
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Feminists wouldn't necessarily say that men and women are equal when it comes to strength
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They would say that they should be equal and be equitable under the law instead.
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I got distracted by the music that was playing.
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Modern day, what we see on social media, I'm against that.
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I think we need to have masculine men on society.
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And I think that we should have equal rights, but I think we need to stop shitting on men.
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So if that's the case, yes, I am anti that movement because we need to appreciate that
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the infrastructure we have that we're saying we don't need men was created by the men.
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Now all of a sudden we're saying we don't need these men anymore.
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And that's what I think the new modern day feminism is.
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All of you guys have stated nothing but feminist ideals.
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I haven't actually heard a single ideal out of any of you that's not a feminist ideal.
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Including the one that you just stated, which is a feminist ideal.
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Which is that they should be equal under the law.
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It's just that you think that women shouldn't be so mean to men because men built the infrastructure
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There's fourth wave feminists who bring that up all the time as an argument.
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It's about egalitarianism and equality between men and women underneath an idealized law
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Are you fighting for women's rights, basically?
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Looking back, like, I do just, like, have some feminism values.
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Others, it's like, I agree with some of the other ladies, like, in the room right now
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Well, what about, you had a pretty strong position on this.
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Well, now I'm being persuaded, too, because I think, I know.
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It had nothing to do with the mean guy on the screen.
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Um, what you were saying, I agree with, where it's, like, I don't think it's very productive
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to be hating on men in order to, like, for women to gain more power.
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I'm not saying, like, at this point, I don't really know any rights that women don't have
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Like, if anything, I'm thinking that men's getting the shit end of the stick, especially
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when it comes to child care, and I think that men need equal rights when it comes to, like,
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I think it would be stupid to, you know, draft women, not just because skill-wise.
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I think that there's a lot of things we just don't have the same ability to do as men,
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and that's not just physically, but it's just emotionally and rationally.
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Um, so for me, like I said, this isn't my point of education.
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This is just from my opinion of my understanding what I'm seeing today, and that's just that.
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Uh, for you two, you guys say you're feminists.
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Uh, so can you guys think of, like, are there any rights that men have that women don't?
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Everyone, everyone has the same equal rights now, yeah.
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I think my whole thing is, like, I grew up in a very liberal town where it was, like,
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Um, so it, if, like, I wasn't a feminist, I don't know what I would be.
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Like, I don't really have, like, like, that's just all I know, I guess.
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Feminism is basically the air that we breathe, and it's the water we swim in.
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Whether people know it or not, it's ingratiated in society.
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So, you may not have any other position other than that.
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So, if you say, I really don't know anything besides feminism, I believe you.
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Yeah, essentially, essentially, I would, I would largely agree with that characterization.
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I know it's really hard to come up with a definition on the spot.
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So, if you were to define it as, essentially, men being in charge, I wouldn't fight back against that definition.
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Do you think that there is a patriarchy and that's bad?
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I mean, we don't know anything other than that.
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If we're, like, talking about, like, our presence and stuff, right?
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So, if they're, like, leading us, it's only, yeah.
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Isn't it, this is, like, the mainstream feminist thought.
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I mean, like, yeah, like, like, I would, I would want men to, like, take the lead.
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If you want a patriarchy, why would you be a feminist?
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I personally think maybe I'm the only feminist left at this table.
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I think women should be drafted in the military.
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I don't understand why people don't take the stance of no one should be drafted.
03:19:00.180
Well, there's just certain geopolitical realities when it comes to warfare.
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Like, you're never going to be able to get rid of the draft because there could be some threat, domestic, foreign, universal, like fucking aliens or some shit.
03:19:18.340
And there's not enough people in the military already.
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But, yeah, you can't – they're never going to – you can't get rid of the draft.
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But the military has great benefits, so we don't have to draft.
03:19:37.580
Well, that's what I was wondering, that there's not enough people in the military already.
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No, even Donald Trump, like, I got a full sleeve.
03:19:44.840
Like, he was trying to make the military more –
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But, yeah, I think – like, you guys – so you guys all agree with me?
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Do you agree that we should draft women into the military?
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I mean, if someone puts me, like, drafts me in the military,
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Do you think that men have a duty to defend you while you sleep using the military?
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And if a draft came in, do you think that men would be cowards if they did not go to the draft?
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I wouldn't – I don't necessarily think they'd be cowards.
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I would just think of it, like, simply as, like –
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So, I mean, well, this is kind of a pertinent point.
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If nobody responds to the draft and, you know, we have, like, I don't know, an enemy military that wants to invade or do, you know, horrible, heinous shit, which has happened in the past, then who defends you?
03:21:28.280
So, do you think that men have a responsibility to show up for the draft, that they're drafted, to defend the nation and make sure that you're protected?
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Like, again, like, if men who aren't drafted in the military don't protect us, like, I don't know who's going to protect us.
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So, if they have that responsibility and they're cowards, if they don't go to the draft, right, somebody has to go.
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You would prefer that it's them over you, right?
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So, it's like a right that you have that men don't.
03:22:19.760
So, I guess when you're talking about feminism being part of this equality and anti-patriarchy, it would appear that patriarchy is necessary because you want them to go and fight wars on your behalf so that you can sleep at night without having any troubles, right?
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And you don't want to go fight those wars, right?
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Like, looking back now, like, there's so many other opinions against feminism or maybe just no standpoint for feminism that I completely, like, I'm gaining a new...
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And this is the prism from which feminism is viewed.
03:22:55.400
Standpoint theory means only from the standpoint of women.
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They actually went through and revised history books so that the history would only reflect the standpoint of women.
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I meant, like, not, like, anything else but just, like, in the room right now.
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Like, I'm just meant, like, I'm open to everyone's opinions and I am agreeing with, like, other people's opinions other than mine, including yours.
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Just, you know, ease, like, kind of soften up the enemy a bit.
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Send the OnlyFans women first and they can, like, attack nude.
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And then, like, the enemy's just, like, bamboozled.
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Like, the dudes come in and, you know, like, we do, like, you know, the dispatching and shit.
03:24:00.920
So, when it comes to the drafting, like, I do know there's a few countries that do force training, though.
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So, how do you guys feel about all women and men being military trained?
03:24:14.260
But it doesn't necessarily mean women are being forced to the front lines.
03:24:19.620
No, but it's, we have, we have, we have, because, like, you know, I was very interested in joining our military,
03:24:28.540
I can't, you know, but I do know my skills with medicine and other things, that it's, like, I absolutely want to do my part.
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But I'm not going to be serving him any good if, like, when you could have somebody who's 6'4 and jacked, you know, versus me at the front lines.
03:24:46.920
What do you guys feel about, like, mandatory training?
03:24:54.540
So Israel does that, where you have to go and you train no matter what.
03:24:58.180
And I think it gives you an appreciation, like me being in the military, really gives you appreciation of your country.
03:25:04.940
You leave your house, you're what you know, and you have to be told what to do, like, shut up in color.
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And then on top of that, you learn a lot of skills that you wouldn't in the civilian world that would take you a long time, like the positions they put you in.
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It's just great learning experience, diversity.
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I think America should do that because these men these days are a little bit different, a little bit softer.
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If any of you want to have a little back and forth with me or Andrew on this, I don't know.
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I don't know if this is actually Andrew's position, but men are, speaking of feminism, men are and have been more oppressed than women.
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The patriarchy is here to protect you with our 15s in the house.
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Trucks, trucks that don't get stuck in mud, homegrown food, being drafted, drilling the oil for everything in your life, and putting away danger.
03:26:14.660
What a great super chat segue into Brian's point.
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I mean, obviously, some men don't want to be at all, and they're very, you know, different.
03:26:31.760
Well, my statement was, men are and have been more oppressed than women, as it relates to, because we're talking about feminism,
03:26:41.760
and one of the kind of talking points of feminism is how women throughout history and even current day are oppressed,
03:26:49.880
and by comparison, they're more oppressed than men.
03:27:02.940
So for me, again, this isn't not my field, not my expertise.
03:27:07.340
This is just what I see as a personal thing, is we can talk about how we feel and how we,
03:27:12.360
but heaven forbid a man tries to express, like, hey, these are the issues I see with my buddies.
03:27:16.580
Like, mental health is this issue, or we, and it's like, when a guy does good, I feel like they just absolutely get shit on.
03:27:27.120
There's these stupid Instagram posts that I'm seeing where there's one where it's a voiceover that goes,
03:27:36.180
Like, that type of stuff, like, that is so sexist, and if, you know, if men started posting that, we'd be all up in flames.
03:27:45.300
I think it's your algorithm, because mine doesn't get that.
03:27:47.640
It's, well, because I'm kind of against that, and I think it's because people are, like, resharing it, being like,
03:27:54.460
hey, have you guys been seeing what's going on, right?
03:27:57.720
And just, like, I've got a younger brother, you know, and, like, if I end up having a son, like, I'm worried,
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because it's, like, I don't think that they care at all, really, about men.
03:28:05.160
It's all about the pendulum swinging too far is where I feel like, you know, we wanted the middle,
03:28:10.020
and now we're at this point of, like, virtue signaling, and it's to the point that we have to beat someone down
03:28:16.820
We only care about transgenders mostly right now.
03:28:22.680
I mean, that's the emphasis right now in the world.
03:28:39.260
Do you guys talk about it as much as Americans?
03:28:41.900
We're the ones who have, like, the male woodworking teacher
03:28:44.720
who decides to wear fetish prosthetic breasts into his woodworking class
03:28:56.960
It's totally a fetish, but in his outside daily life, he's a normal him, but...
03:29:13.620
Oh, you think you could get him on the show, you think?
03:29:20.000
He wouldn't come on the show, or you wouldn't be able to do...
03:29:27.540
His perspective is, he sticks more with the financial and things like that.
03:29:40.420
Now, based on your selfish, gotta-get-money-fast desires, you, your family, and your kids will
03:29:47.380
Yeah, this is actually a good point to bring up, which is that, you know...
03:29:52.020
And I don't know why this is not brought up more often, but I do tend to bring it up
03:29:56.140
quite a bit, which is what happens when your kids come over to you and say,
03:30:00.200
Hey, look, Mom, this is you blowing this guy, and we have it all on film.
03:30:04.040
And this is you blowing this guy, and this guy, and this guy also.
03:30:08.200
And all these kids at school are beating me up, Mom.
03:30:12.420
That seems like one of the best arguments against pornography I can ever think of.
03:30:18.800
Honestly, I think that when I was in the porn industry, I really didn't think about the future.
03:30:23.380
I honestly didn't care if I lived or got deleted from life.
03:30:35.460
And now that I am a wife and a mother, that is something that my past has come back to haunt me now that I'm...
03:30:41.720
Like, my husband and I, we were practicing, you know, no sex before marriage.
03:30:45.820
And we were on a date one day, and he gets a direct message,
03:30:48.700
and somebody sent him a picture of me with another man.
03:30:54.300
And so, yeah, I think that our decisions definitely have consequences, and I'll own up to that.
03:31:01.260
One thing that I'm doing with my children is already kind of having, like, age-appropriate conversations.
03:31:06.580
My daughter's only four, but, you know, I often tell her, you know, Mommy used to make a lot of bad decisions.
03:31:15.500
And I'm like, oh, kind of worse than that, babe.
03:31:17.720
Like, I'm not going to tell her at four years old, but that is a conversation that my husband and I will have to have with her.
03:31:24.680
And I share this in all transparency, because those seven years that I was in porn, I wish that I could give those years back.
03:31:34.640
I really do, because our decisions do have consequences.
03:31:40.720
And I own up to that, and I'm not trying to say that what I did, you know, I'm owning up to that.
03:31:47.800
I'm glad that you repented and moved on from it.
03:31:49.840
But what I'm saying to you specifically, and it's very important, because it's tying back to our earlier shame conversation.
03:31:56.180
Is there anything worse that you can think of that would bring shame to your children more than them seeing their mother having sex with men on video?
03:32:09.140
I can't actually think of anything that would make a child more ashamed of their parents than that.
03:32:16.560
I think if you were a serial killer, that that would be less shameful to a child than having that happen to a child.
03:32:21.620
Not really, because they wouldn't have their mother in their life.
03:32:25.200
And I'm talking about shame, not about outcomes.
03:32:30.120
That would still be less shameful, I think, than if somebody walked over and went, hey, look, I fapped to your mom last night.
03:32:39.700
Like, I can't think of anything more that would be more horrible to a kid than that.
03:32:44.600
I have been out of the industry for 12 years, okay?
03:32:48.700
There's a lot of people that, you know, are out there and doing their thing.
03:32:52.320
But regardless, I am teaching my children how to be empathetic.
03:32:56.640
So, for example, we see a homeless person in the store.
03:33:01.760
I'm teaching my children how to empathize with people so that when that time does come, it's like, yeah, I know my mom did that and that sucks.
03:33:09.080
But, like, I also teach my daughter, too, four years old.
03:33:11.560
This is great for any parents out there because children are being exposed to porn at the age of eight years old.
03:33:22.660
I teach my daughter, I'm still on a thought here, so just a moment, please.
03:33:26.200
I teach my daughter that if anybody ever shows her.
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We've got to go bang, bang, bang, you know what I mean?
03:33:31.480
If anybody ever shows, I taught my daughter, if anybody ever shows you an image or a video of anybody that is wearing anything less than what you'd see someone wearing at the beach,
03:33:43.160
immediately turn away and go and tell an adult because that is not appropriate.
03:33:50.640
Let's assume one of my kids is at school and another kid goes over to him and says, hey, I have a video of your dad smoking.
03:34:01.460
I didn't say that prostitution and smoking are the same thing.
03:34:10.900
I think the beautiful thing is God uses all things for good.
03:34:13.640
And now she has a testimony and she can help so many women.
03:34:16.520
And our goal in life is not to make our kids happy.
03:34:20.740
Do you think that when one of your kids goes over to you and somebody shows them pornography of their mother,
03:34:25.520
that they're going to care about that more than their dad smoking a cigarette?
03:34:30.360
The point is, now with her testimony, she can use that to help so many women.
03:34:34.440
And that's the reason that we're here on this earth, to help other people.
03:34:37.060
It's not to make sure your kids aren't ashamed.
03:34:40.040
Like this stuff, you're going to have people break your heart.
03:34:45.240
Do you think that if one of my kids, if somebody comes over to one of my kids and says,
03:34:48.160
look at your daddy smoking in this video, that that's going to be in any way comparable to them going over and say,
03:34:56.440
Do you think that those are in any way comparable at all?
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You think that that's going to bring shame to my kid?
03:35:09.580
You think my kid's going to be like, oh my God, he is?
03:35:14.120
Going through the industry, she can help more people than somebody who hasn't been through the industry.
03:35:18.420
She can bring more people to God with her testimony.
03:35:22.080
And the fact that she did that and now she's living in purity and walking in purity,
03:35:25.480
she can do more than those people who have never done OnlyFans.
03:35:31.960
You're doing everything but answering the question.
03:35:39.200
Yeah, because to everybody else, spiritual world.
03:35:41.260
In the spiritual world, she's able to help so many people with her testimony just like I am.
03:35:52.800
Let me ask the question and then I'm going to be quiet while you answer it.
03:36:00.220
Assuming that you and I have a kid in the same school
03:36:03.440
and he walks over and he's like, look at your dad.
03:36:07.020
He's smoking a cigarette and shows him a video.
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Which one do you think is going to be more embarrassed?
03:36:38.160
Some of these younger ladies are truly open-minded.
03:36:40.080
Not just to what they learn from their liberal upbringing,
03:37:00.580
All right, so what do you guys think about this?
03:37:03.020
This is, you got on the, what, on the left there,
03:37:53.740
We basically told a great generation of young women,
03:38:07.460
you know, the boys don't want to date me anymore
03:38:14.300
It's like you're not as attractive in the dating pool
03:38:17.240
but again, you have your corporate job in cats,
03:38:23.260
So this went viral on Twitter a couple days ago.
03:38:30.980
and he said, well, women are not in their prime.
03:38:34.140
In their 30s, everyone lost their mind over this.
03:39:02.960
and I think all that other stuff causes depression,
03:39:26.500
Why wouldn't people just unalive themselves, then,
03:39:28.920
if it's just a temporary, temporal place to be in?
03:39:42.920
If you're talking to a person who's a secularist,
03:39:45.840
and you're trying to sell them on Christianity,
03:39:57.240
With Jesus inside of us, we have a great purpose.
03:40:10.520
Wait, you mean like someone's outward physical appearance
03:40:19.980
are the most self, they hate themselves the most,
03:40:23.380
they're the most beautiful people in the world.
03:40:30.420
and this could even be the case for a lot of men too,
03:40:39.400
They're not as attractive as they were in their 20s.
03:40:48.620
Botox come along, but I think really to each his own,
03:40:52.180
because somebody might not like dating a younger girl
03:40:58.280
there's a lot of men, which is, I think, disgusting.
03:41:03.580
where these older guys are dating these young girls,
03:41:06.560
because they know us as older women would never move along.
03:41:12.080
No, no, no, no, hold on, wait, wait, wait, wait.
03:41:23.180
You're talking about, oh, they're dating women at 18 and up, right?
03:41:28.760
And the thing is, is all of us women who are in our 30s,
03:41:32.760
People who are 40, and a lot of them have ego issues.
03:41:38.300
But the young girl, she's not developed enough to where she's kind of, like, deals with it, you know?
03:41:46.520
Well, honestly, God gives you a lot of wisdom and discernment.
03:41:53.840
When you put, instead of a man putting a man as an idol.
03:41:55.100
Can an 18-year-old girl have been dived deep with God?
03:41:59.840
Can an 18-year-old girl be dived deep with God?
03:42:03.900
Then what the hell is the problem with that relationship?
03:42:07.020
I'm just saying, generally, it's not that kind of relationship.
03:42:12.760
Most of the time, it's a broken girl who's been through a lot of stuff,
03:42:15.460
who isn't mature enough, and a broken guy who likes that this girl, he can control her,
03:42:30.940
I mean, normally, from what I see, that's what I see.
03:42:34.900
Yeah, but you see that normally among people who are in the same age grouping, too.
03:42:39.580
It's pretty normal to see broken people get together in the same exact age group.
03:42:42.700
The thing is, until you put God first, you're going to make a man an idol,
03:42:45.420
and that's what I did for so long, and it was one of my biggest regrets.
03:42:52.100
You're not making a man an idol because there's an age gap.
03:42:55.460
No, no, I'm just saying, if you don't put God first in your life, you are going to make
03:43:16.420
No, it's because they're taking advantage, because as a woman, I see that these women
03:43:22.200
are very heartbroken, and these men are taking advantage of them.
03:43:28.340
They haven't had time to heal, and then they go after them, and I think it's, especially
03:43:34.980
That's why you never see a narcissist with a narcissist.
03:43:41.680
In this particular instance, though, why do you think that these women aren't just going
03:43:46.260
after these older men because of their resources, and because they want to have shit given to
03:43:50.820
them, and rides on airplanes, and all this other different stuff that you seem to see
03:43:57.420
It's always something deeper, because material things don't really get you that happy, so
03:44:02.040
Yeah, they don't, but that doesn't mean that women don't like material things, because
03:44:11.060
Let's have the whole panel give a reaction to the video, starting with you.
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Just skip to the end part, like halfway through.
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Video from full screen, full screen, full screen.
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Just play it one more time, just play it one more time.
03:44:41.060
You know, the boys don't want to date me anymore, because they're not at their prime.
03:44:47.280
And people get mad when I say that, which is true.
03:44:51.000
It's like you're not as attractive in the dating pool as you were in the early 20s.
03:44:53.960
But again, you have your corporate job in cats, so I thought, you know.
03:44:58.540
Yeah, he's basically saying, hey, sorry, it's true.
03:45:02.340
When you're in your 30s, you're not as attractive as you were when you were in your 20s.
03:45:07.700
I know some of them, like, I've heard of people say, like, my 25-year-old body isn't the same as, like, my 18-year-old body, and that's just something you have to accept.
03:45:16.760
I have read somewhere that that man met his wife when she was in her 30s, and he was in his 20s.
03:45:28.480
And you're currently in an age gap relationship, correct?
03:45:39.420
So, wait, what's your point that you're trying to make?
03:45:42.720
No, I was just wondering if anybody else knew that that was true.
03:45:46.820
Is she older than him, or he's, like, 34, and she's...
03:45:51.680
I don't understand how that affects what he said.
03:45:54.560
Well, I would say that he doesn't believe what he's saying.
03:46:01.720
I don't think the statement he made and the fact that he married a woman who was 30...
03:46:06.960
Yeah, I don't think those are conflicting things.
03:46:09.900
Yeah, for instance, let me give you an example.
03:46:11.240
Somebody's prime might be different for somebody else.
03:46:26.520
What his point is, is stop focusing on work, and then you're going to miss out on our family.
03:46:30.900
You said in your 20s you weren't in your prime.
03:46:32.860
But let's assume that you had not done all the drug use and, I don't know, the partying and, you know, being involved in this.
03:46:44.160
Because, well, she's saying compared to now, I'm living a healthier life.
03:46:49.480
But let's assume that in your 20s, there wasn't the drug use.
03:47:03.940
Would you agree that you were more, you would have been more physically attractive then than you are now?
03:47:09.240
No, because I didn't start drugging and all that until I got out of the military, which was I was 27 years old.
03:47:16.560
But I'm saying, for me, when I grew in Christ, that was when my prime was.
03:47:33.600
So, the way we typically will ask this question is, it's going to be related to the rating yourself question.
03:47:39.680
All else being equal, do you think, and typically the way I ask it, do you think you'll be more physically attractive in 10 or 20 years time?
03:47:54.820
But okay, so let's, so the way I can just ask this question, you're 34 now.
03:48:00.960
Now, all else, if all else being equal, do you think you're more physically attractive at 24 than you are now at 34?
03:48:17.060
So, my muscles weren't as developed as they are now.
03:48:19.640
So, when it comes to body, like, I can, if we stood up, my body looks great.
03:48:23.600
No, no, no, but all else, all else being equal.
03:48:26.080
So, that means, like, you can't do this scenario where, while 24 hours obese.
03:48:38.100
Like, the older you get, life happens, gravity, all those things.
03:48:42.100
Also, you're not as fertile as you were in your 20s, right?
03:48:51.160
Yeah, no, I understand, but it stands to reason that women who get married in their 30s, and especially in their mid-30s, likely going to have less children than if they get married in their 20s, right?
03:49:05.600
Wait, going around the table, reaction to the Kirk video, did you give an answer?
03:49:18.100
If a woman wants to go to school to get, like, a better job in, like, corporate world, whatever, it's kind of hard.
03:49:27.940
So if, like, some people are complaining about not finding anyone when they're 30, like, I don't think everyone's complaining.
03:49:42.480
Well, I don't necessarily disagree with him when...
03:49:46.860
I don't necessarily disagree with him with what he's saying because it's kind of true, but it just sucks.
03:50:00.640
Okay, well, then, yeah, I don't necessarily agree, but, like, in, you know, your situation where you were...
03:50:06.900
Well, because, like, okay, in her situation, right, she...
03:50:12.820
I mean, you know, you were taking drugs, and you just weren't in the right state of mind, so, like, maybe, like, she looks a lot better now than she did, like, when she was in her 20s.
03:50:21.460
Well, you said you didn't start drugging until you were...
03:50:26.800
Okay, well, Charlie Kirk said women in their 30s as compared to women in their early 20s.
03:50:32.100
So, even using her example, not even using all else being equal, she wasn't drugging in her early 20s.
03:50:39.200
Well, then, yeah, I think, you know, the dating pool's a lot better in your 20s and 30s then.
03:50:46.680
So, the question sort of is, are women in their prime in their 20s as compared to their 30s?
03:51:14.600
God has been slowly, you know, convicting me about things.
03:51:20.000
But I had like a thousand pictures on there, and now I went down to like...
03:51:32.520
How long do you think it's going to take God to convict you to get rid of the rest of them?
03:51:40.700
Like, if you had to guess based on the current amount of pictures that you've taken off versus
03:51:46.260
the future amount of pictures that you will take off, would we say that within a year
03:51:51.560
No, I think religion is the one that's going to look at you and say, you can't wear this,
03:51:55.180
you can't wear that, and I think they're the ones that...
03:52:00.500
Like, if you've been accustomed to something for so many years, you've been showing yourself
03:52:06.580
And especially coming from Miami, like, the stuff I wore in Miami, I didn't think it
03:52:13.400
We're doing a segment called Traditional or Not Traditional, brought to you by Andrew Wilson
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Okay, so scrolling down, we're going to see, we're going to do a little slower, a little
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Traditional, a lot of chat is saying Not Traditional, Not Traditional.
03:53:16.860
What is your, um, what, what, if you had to point at the five newest photos that you
03:53:51.980
When will God convict you to get rid of the rest of these, when is that gonna happen?
03:53:59.080
But can we start with a process of like, what is actually stopping you?
03:54:04.800
If you, if you know it's wrong, what is actually stopping you from removing them right this second?
03:54:16.500
Do you think God wants you to have those pictures on your Instagram?
03:54:21.000
Uh, I didn't, honestly, it's, if you have a dirty mind, doesn't matter what you look at.
03:54:29.160
I've worn dresses that were completely covered up and still had men look at me.
03:54:32.920
If a man's perverted, if he has perversion in his mind, it's gonna come out that way.
03:54:40.120
Well, before we even saw it, your immediate reaction was, don't judge because the clothing in Miami is different.
03:54:49.640
I don't know, you looked like that, there could have been Hawaii there.
03:54:51.820
So I just got delivered, I had sexual, generational demons, everything, so.
03:54:57.980
Yeah, and you can see it a lot in these girls in pictures.
03:55:05.440
Maybe just the photos that in your mind, you're like, hey guys, like, hold on.
03:55:09.640
But my last photos I don't have a problem with.
03:55:12.580
I would archive those ones, and then that way next time somebody's like, let's see your social.
03:55:16.240
She'd be like, yeah, here, say what you want to say.
03:55:18.500
But there was something you already knew, there was something, which is why you gave everybody a disclaimer.
03:55:30.780
Yeah, it's very clever and very Christ-like, right?
03:55:34.760
So, but let's back up real quick, because I would like to know the answer to this question, right?
03:55:40.500
What is actually stopping you if you believe that it's wrong to have photos like that on your Instagram from right this second deleting them?
03:55:57.920
People have seen my transition, and that's been my testimony.
03:56:00.860
There are a couple I need to take out, but the pictures I have really aren't bad.
03:56:03.660
I just asked you, with the follow-up, do you think God wants you to have those pictures on your Instagram?
03:56:09.160
Not all of them are bad, especially my last photos.
03:56:17.740
Yeah, I haven't, for, to be honest, I haven't looked through my photos in a while, and I just did a revamp on them,
03:56:23.560
so I don't go to my Instagram and look at everything every, you know, look at everything, so all the time.
03:56:29.960
Could you see it from an outsider's perspective?
03:56:34.280
And I want to give you every benefit of the doubt, and I hope on your journey through Christianity that we see you in an Orthodox church one day.
03:56:41.800
But you can see where it would be that people would have doubts about you and people like Nala and your convictions when you say,
03:56:49.000
I only listen to God, and then when I ask, well, do you think God would want this?
03:56:52.180
And you say no, and I ask, well, why haven't you deleted it then?
03:56:57.280
God will take me through that process when it's time.
03:57:05.580
If he stripped us of everything we ever had, we'd go in, like, shock.
03:57:15.460
They struggle sometimes, they struggle with masturbation.
03:57:18.580
She has troubles understanding what God wants from her with all the different tongueses he speaks to her in.
03:57:29.300
Yeah, well, listen, I get that it's a process, but I just want to let you know that part of the process could be hitting the delete button.
03:57:46.120
I literally just got baptized maybe three weeks ago, re-baptized.
03:57:52.120
I have gotten rid of a lot, but it's between me and God, and that's what's so beautiful.
03:57:56.240
It's a relationship not to be condemned by other people.
03:57:58.740
When you're like a Pharisee, you know what they told Jesus?
03:58:02.220
The Pharisee's always had something to say, but it's that relationship, and I think, I feel like you are a Pharisee.
03:58:08.860
Can you give me the, if you feel like I'm a Pharisee?
03:58:11.660
Well, then just to kind of rejoin back against your accusation of me being a Pharisee, can you give me the parable of the prostitute who won't delete her prostitution photos from her Instagram, please?
03:58:46.140
Do you believe that just based on only your pictures and your Instagram that people would believe that you're Christian, or that they would infer that?
03:58:57.420
I'm very open about it, and I think that's how God wants us to be.
03:59:01.620
All that condemning, shame, all that stuff comes from the devil.
03:59:04.540
At the end of the day, like, he can use all things for good, and that's what's beautiful about him.
03:59:11.260
And it's like, when you have God in your life, you're not selfish anymore.
03:59:28.360
People wanted to change because they saw something different in him.
03:59:31.860
Okay, so do you think, then, if this is the case, should you condemn the devil?
03:59:43.500
I mean, he's the reason for a lot of things that go on.
03:59:50.700
So, if that's true, if you would condemn Satan, do you think it would be God or Satan who
03:59:54.580
would prefer that those pictures were up on your Instagram?
04:00:14.180
Yeah, and we have, with the authority of Jesus, he's nothing.
04:00:15.900
Would you say that God or Satan would prefer that you had those pictures up on Instagram?
04:00:19.320
Well, probably, if they're not appropriate, most likely Satan.
04:00:26.340
So, how would be the best way to condemn Satan, then?
04:00:40.200
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
04:00:43.280
Okay, I do want to move things on a little bit.
04:00:45.700
So, okay, one question, kind of related to the photos and shit, seems evident from, you
04:00:55.540
I don't know if there's a biblical, theological, ecclesiastical take on this.
04:01:01.260
Um, I do notice that you have, uh, plastic surgery.
04:01:19.840
Okay, so maybe, see, people like to dance around when I ask this.
04:01:23.680
So, you've not had any procedure for the buttocks region.
04:01:28.700
You can look at my old, you can look at my old stuff since I was a kid.
04:01:38.200
I've always been thick since I was a young kid, and I used to hate it.
04:01:59.160
Okay, you're saying there's no, like, I don't know what the specific different surgeries
04:02:07.480
Bro, you cap, you're fucking cap right now, dog.
04:02:25.200
Bro, you almost, I almost want to pull this Instagram back up so I could, like, look at
04:02:29.200
some photos and be like, that's a, I don't know if it's a BBL.
04:02:37.300
Bro, dude, I've, I feel like I can spot a fake booty.
04:02:54.780
I'm trying to, I'm trying to, I'm trying to, I'm trying to find the.
04:03:15.440
I need to, there's the one where you were like sparring up against black China.
04:03:36.500
Okay, but you, you do at least admit you have breast implants.
04:03:48.020
I mean, I don't think we're supposed to change our body.
04:03:52.260
In addition to like you taking some of these Instagram photos off, would you take the fake titties out?
04:03:57.520
If it's not going to hurt my health, honestly, but right now I'm going to keep them in.
04:04:06.360
So it's not like, God takes you where you are and he forgives you.
04:04:11.740
You don't need to go changing anything to be accepted by God.
04:04:17.420
So I don't feel like I need to take my boobs out, especially going underneath another surgery, which might be more harmful.
04:04:35.420
I think right now, I feel like I need some lipo in my stomach.
04:04:40.260
I'm looking at some of these photos and I feel like you're not being forthcoming about all your procedures.
04:04:53.700
To put fat here in my chest, which didn't, it's the dumbest thing ever.
04:04:57.400
Because it only, like, I think 40% of it stays or something like that.
04:05:08.000
Everything else just did lip fillers and obviously Botox.
04:05:14.600
I mean, she's being honest about everything else.
04:05:24.380
Well, I don't think that she would if she's owning it.
04:05:27.880
I mean, being honest about being a sex worker and getting implants and everything else, I don't think that you would lie about that.
04:05:33.940
There's just, like, a certain shape that's just, like, impossible to achieve without surgery.
04:05:42.460
There's certain, like, that's just not humanly possible.
04:05:53.500
Like, if it was me and my butt was huge, like, that's so non-proportional.
04:06:02.820
But, so, I think, yeah, like, I think she's being honest.
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Sorry, I'm looking at the fucking Instagram on my shit.
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I'm looking at your boxing match with Blac Chyna.
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I'm going to move on, because I'm just burning time.
04:07:20.860
The bullshit testimony is only to make herself feel better about what she did wrong.
04:07:27.020
Do y'all 304s really believe your true love will be honest with your nudes online?
04:07:37.740
My husband, he would have never, in his honestly right mind, I'll just be honest,
04:07:42.640
thought of dating a woman with a past like mine.
04:07:45.700
But as he got to know me at church, he really felt peace in moving forward and in dating
04:07:51.300
Before me, he dated a woman that was going to school to be a doctor and stuff like that.
04:07:56.900
But he felt peace, and he felt like this is the woman that I'm called to be with in the
04:08:06.360
And so, yeah, I'm living proof, and we've been happily married for eight years, been
04:08:17.800
Should broke men be allowed to date, or should they just get their life together first?
04:08:22.620
If the second, why should you of strumpets be allowed to date?
04:08:36.800
I would say no, because he needs to be able to provide.
04:08:39.620
And when you're dating, you should be dating with the intent to be a husband.
04:08:48.520
I mean, broke is like, he needs to at least be ready to...
04:08:59.680
And if you're not ready to marry, you got to have a house.
04:09:04.860
Why do you have to have any of those things to be married?
04:09:10.520
No, but the point is, is that if you're super poor, and there's people in plenty of nations
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other than this one who are, who get married and have families, why would we push back against
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that just because they don't have a lot of material goods?
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I was just thinking a young kid just starting off life, living in his mom's basement.
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Yeah, I mean, they can date, but they should have, like, a vision for the future.
04:09:58.240
Like, they shouldn't be broke and content, at least not, you know, there's so many opportunities
04:10:02.720
to make money and to be able to be a good provider.
04:10:12.860
Yeah, of course there's no problem at all with this.
04:10:27.180
There's nothing at all wrong with poor people getting married.
04:10:31.840
And sometimes they even raise kids in poor households.
04:10:44.820
You can look up articles of kids of Cornstar's self-deleting from being bullied.
04:10:49.760
Name an article of a kid self-deleting because their daddy smoked a cigarette.
04:11:03.240
When you're done with the supers, too, I have a great question to ask when you're ready to write.
04:11:13.340
I think it's because I was on the Fresh and Fit.
04:11:16.400
Wait, didn't you say you got kicked off that show?
04:11:23.500
So, I got kicked off because I was calling him out because both of those guys liked me.
04:11:34.820
And he was sitting there saying, you're this, you're not worth this, you're not.
04:11:37.320
And I'm like, well, what do you think about yourself?
04:11:39.100
Because you're the one that is always coming on to me.
04:11:45.340
And he's very open that he sleeps with multiple women.
04:11:47.680
But he thinks his, like, 19-year-old is high value.
04:11:50.920
But I'm like, a high value wouldn't allow you to just cheat and bring home diseases.
04:12:03.180
I actually, really quick, I do just want to address kind of some recent events here.
04:12:07.400
I just want to make the statement that I'm not going to dogpile, absolutely not going to dogpile fresh.
04:12:14.980
I wish him good luck in, and I'm saying this with full, just genuine heart.
04:12:32.100
So, I wish him good luck in dealing with it because it's a total clusterfuck.
04:12:40.920
But just, I don't, you know, look, me and them had, like, a little thing a couple months ago.
04:12:47.520
But just, I don't think it's, it wouldn't be right for me to dogpile.
04:12:53.580
So, I wish him good luck in dealing with the situation.
04:13:19.000
So, my question is actually, I was thinking about this as we were having kind of our discussion
04:13:24.700
back and forth with the two Christians on the panel.
04:13:28.860
I was just wondering, do you think that it's more effective for you to give your testimony
04:13:34.920
in your gospel, or would it be more effective for us to politically try to outlaw OnlyFans
04:13:41.320
Which thing do you think would be more effective in society?
04:13:47.420
So, to be honest, testimony, people are going to do what they want, whether they look at porn
04:13:56.300
But, of course, putting it into law wouldn't hurt.
04:14:00.980
It would obviously restrict more people from doing it.
04:14:04.200
But, at the same time, people are going to find ways around it.
04:14:07.420
And I think your testimony is way more powerful because it's going to change people's hearts
04:14:14.080
I think there was a law tomorrow which outlawed pornography and prostitution of all kinds.
04:14:19.200
Do you think that that would have more of an effect than whatever your testimony is going
04:14:23.580
No, because that's going to, laws stop you from doing things, but it doesn't change your
04:14:28.400
Just like if they said no smoking cigarettes and they banned that, you would probably still
04:14:33.640
Yeah, no, but they banned it all over the place.
04:14:35.700
And you can see the massive reduction in cigarette smoking because of all of the bans on cigarette
04:14:40.380
In fact, it's one of the things that you can track the easiest because it's basically
04:14:48.600
Due to all the stigma against cigarette smoking and all of the bans and all the price hikes
04:14:52.420
and things like this, you've actually seen the behavior modified through social stigma
04:14:57.200
where it's not even, in some company, it's not even appropriate anymore.
04:15:07.380
Yeah, well, what you've noticed is that a stigma is arising against that as well.
04:15:13.620
And so, you'll see that behavior curtailed as well.
04:15:17.060
The question is, is how much of your energy is actually spent moving against the industry
04:15:24.600
I think changing the heart is where change happens.
04:15:28.820
So, I think we stand on the power of our testimony.
04:15:30.780
And even with Jesus, like he changed people with their hearts and his testimonies and
04:15:36.580
all he did and the miracles, which is us being here, being miracles, that we don't live that
04:15:41.180
life anymore, that we have peace for the first time in our lives, that we aren't addicted
04:15:47.620
And that is way more life-changing than any other law that you can put into place.
04:15:54.020
So, let's say for a second, if this is the case, the President of the United States has
04:16:01.600
His choice for the first address is that he can say, I've put in policy outlawing pornography
04:16:15.120
People will find, if there's a will, there's a way.
04:16:20.560
Especially when it comes to spiritual, sexual things.
04:16:34.680
And do you think that that might be a tinge, narcissistic?
04:16:42.440
Where, like, us speaking and speaking our testimony is, it has more weight than a law.
04:16:51.700
I've teamed up with Exodus Cry to try to end teen porn.
04:16:56.420
We're trying to change the age to 21 to even be able to enter into pornography.
04:17:02.260
I would love to see pornography canceled in totality.
04:17:06.280
I don't think that there should be any, like, disagreement on that end.
04:17:15.860
I mean, I think that laws in place would be extremely effective.
04:17:23.520
That it's not going to actually change someone's heart to have laws in play.
04:17:28.380
Because it may influence people if they see, you know, everything's permissible, but not everything's beneficial.
04:17:34.220
And so, if pornography is permissible, then people that are not believers in Jesus, I mean, even, sadly, even Christians watch porn.
04:17:41.760
So, but if it's permissible, then people are going to think that it's also beneficial.
04:17:46.380
So, if we can cancel porn and get it off the internet and cancel OnlyFans, there may actually be a rise of people that go, wow, maybe this is bad for me.
04:17:54.440
But then there are also going to be people who are going to hop on the dark web.
04:17:57.660
But, yeah, but the thing is, is we don't curtail behavior in society, which we don't like, because some people might do it anyway.
04:18:07.020
No, and I'm not saying that, I'm not saying that.
04:18:11.100
And I'm actually actively working on that with Exodus Cry.
04:18:15.880
So, shut down all pornography across the board, period.
04:18:20.300
Okay, and what do you think the penalty should be for people who continue to engage in prostitution, even if a law came in?
04:18:27.300
If you had to put a penalty on it, what should happen to a woman who engages in prostitution, do you think?
04:18:33.000
You know, I've actually talked to the Daily Wire about that, and I do believe it's somewhat of a case-by-case basis,
04:18:38.680
only because there are some women who are being trafficked and are forced to do what they're doing.
04:18:44.820
I'm talking about women who are doing it willingly.
04:18:46.400
Yeah, I mean, I think it should be illegal, and what should be a great course of action?
04:19:00.380
So, I know that in Portugal, one of the things they did is they didn't, they actually put their laws down for drugs and things like that,
04:19:07.800
but they went around giving clean needles, talking to people, and their drug and crime, all that went down because they were educating people.
04:19:16.400
They gave them clean needles and everything else, and now there's literally scat on the street and dirty needles all over the place.
04:19:22.040
So, that didn't seem like it was very effective there.
04:19:38.960
They're like, oh my god, I don't even know if I want to fucking address it.
04:19:47.440
My roommate is, like, one of my favorite people.
04:19:58.340
Uh, no, just some girl in the chat was like, oh, Payton, you should, uh, saying you should
04:20:19.320
Yeah, she didn't say why, she just said you should.
04:20:23.000
Probably because she disagrees with the conversations that are occurring, I guess.
04:20:30.520
Paige definitely always does have my best interest in mind, so I don't know.
04:20:37.140
Well, yeah, well, should we have her do a call-in?
04:20:42.220
Yo, Paige, in the chat, you want to fucking call your friend here and you can try to explain
04:20:53.780
Yeah, let's, let's have her, let's, I can't even see.
04:21:01.040
You can, you have to agree that you'll be recorded, though.
04:21:05.800
I can't, I don't see if she's, she probably is fucking embarrassed and she's gone.
04:21:14.220
Explain to us, Paige, why she should leave the podcast.
04:21:18.020
Did you tell her, you told her, I'm assuming, that you were going on.
04:21:30.560
I don't even feel like she's been picked on at all.
04:21:38.800
So, unfortunately, I don't think she's going to call in, but.
04:21:49.320
She literally, no, she literally sent the message like 30 seconds before I pulled it up.
04:21:54.880
She's probably, she's not going to leave any more comments because she's scared, but.
04:22:01.200
But, I mean, Paige always does have my best interest in mind.
04:22:04.300
Because you're not, you're 19, you're not an adult who can make their own decisions.
04:22:12.980
Maybe she should come on the podcast and we can, let's see why she objects to you being
04:22:30.020
I mean, I'm not going to say it on the stream, but in the chat, yeah, she did have a last name.
04:22:41.340
Can, should we get her phone and see if she's been texting you?
04:22:58.880
Before the show, guys, for those watching, we say, you know, hey, silence your phone.
04:24:20.740
Let me get through some of my pre-show notes here from everybody.
04:24:26.100
You said in your pre-show notes, Peach, you think that you can turn, your words, not mine,
04:24:37.860
Yeah, I think, I think you can, because you can, like, like, let's say, like.
04:24:47.480
Like, you can change your life, turn your life all, like, all the way around, you know.
04:25:00.380
No, you can change your life around, but I don't think men are obliged to accept your past.
04:25:07.960
Well, if they don't have Jesus, I mean, thank God we're all forgiven.
04:25:13.060
I actually, even if you're religious, I actually don't even think it's a contradictory position
04:25:17.200
to be devoutly religious and also have the choice to not date a woman who's a sex worker.
04:25:28.420
The body is the most tender, intimate part of our being.
04:25:32.440
Speaks volumes about a you who is willing to jeopardize that sanctity for superfluous things like money and clout.
04:25:45.460
So, I want a guy who actually has a crazy past, because him having a crazy past and turning to God is amazing,
04:25:51.860
because he could go back to that life, but he chose to change his life,
04:25:56.020
and I think that's an amazing thing, to go through that and not pick that side.
04:26:01.640
Some people would just hide in their sin and keep, you know what I'm saying?
04:26:05.060
So, to have somebody who's 180'd their life, transformed their life, that's a beautiful thing.
04:26:13.940
but men do not need to then disregard the baggage that comes with that and marry them.
04:26:20.100
And I think these are compatible from a secular perspective and a theological perspective.
04:26:28.380
I don't think that a man has to accept a woman with a past, right?
04:26:33.460
For example, my husband, before he felt God give him peace,
04:26:38.240
he never would have considered a woman with a past like mine.
04:26:48.980
So, what I'm getting at is like, yeah, you don't have to accept a woman's past,
04:26:54.140
but it doesn't mean that there isn't a man that won't be called to you,
04:26:57.480
that won't embrace you and not see you as a product of your past,
04:27:03.760
I don't disagree that people can move on from their past, and they should.
04:27:09.300
In fact, I would say it's the best thing in the world to watch people redeem themselves
04:27:22.160
When your children are 18, one of them is 18, and comes to you and gives you a choice and says,
04:27:27.420
listen, I have this guy over here who has this past, or gal over here has this past,
04:27:37.660
Let's say it's like five years old or something like this.
04:27:40.500
And then I have another choice of another guy, right, who doesn't have that past,
04:27:46.580
Which one would you recommend that they go with?
04:28:03.800
She's now gone off to continue texting on her phone,
04:28:06.820
which completely kind of contradicts my intention there.
04:28:15.540
If you can, Andrew, if you can repeat yourself.
04:28:17.360
So I was just saying, if your kid came to you and had two different suitors,
04:28:22.040
and one had a past that was riddled with pornography, and the other one did not,
04:28:25.600
and she liked them about the same, which one would you recommend that she go with?
04:28:29.880
I mean, I would have to know the person and know the fruit in their present
04:28:34.000
because I really do believe that God can redeem anybody.
04:28:39.100
Well, if it's about the same, then, of course, I'd probably say,
04:28:44.140
I mean, everybody sins, but, like, yeah, maybe go with the man that hasn't.
04:28:53.200
And just being 100% truthful is that people that have watched porn,
04:28:59.680
I mean, you can go without it, but you might get tempted.
04:29:08.660
Because if they're equal, right, if they're equal and you like them both the same,
04:29:13.700
then why not choose the person that doesn't have the past?
04:29:16.660
I'm not up here trying to say that every man will accept your past.
04:29:23.600
I'm just saying that there must be a reason why it would be that you would recommend that they don't.
04:29:28.740
To Brian's point, all Brian's pointing out here is your past does stay with you regardless.
04:29:35.000
The baggage of that does stay with you regardless.
04:29:37.820
And it's not a contradictory position to say, look, if you want to move past where you don't want to get together with a woman who has done pornography and prostitution and things like that, it's totally acceptable.
04:29:51.520
If it's between two people, one has a past in porn, the other doesn't, you know what?
04:29:57.180
If you like them both equally, go with the one that doesn't have the past.
04:30:00.660
And the reason for that is because my past does have a lot of consequences.
04:30:04.920
My husband has had to have people send him images of me.
04:30:08.360
And we are going to have to deal with that with our children.
04:30:15.600
And so, yes, if I was to guide my child and they said, hands down, I love them both the same, which I kind of think is weird because then it's like, why are you giving your heart away to two different people?
04:30:25.300
But in a hypothetical situation, I would say choose the one that doesn't have the past because it does have consequences.
04:30:32.480
Now, let's take a non-hypothetical situation, apply the same logic, if you don't mind.
04:30:37.540
Your kid comes to you and just says that they're interested in a person that has a past riddled with pornography.
04:30:51.260
They start on the big screen, you know, the whole nine yards.
04:30:54.840
Would you recommend that they maybe take their time and see if they couldn't do better?
04:31:01.440
If they are in love, if my child is in love and the person is bearing fruit of repentance and really, truly has a changed mind, then I would say if you really love this person, then you know what?
04:31:13.400
If the person genuinely is a man of God or a woman of God.
04:31:18.500
Yeah, but the thing is, is why not give the advice?
04:31:25.800
Maybe the best thing is for you to hold out for a little while.
04:31:29.600
See if you can find someone who's better, who doesn't, you know, engage in pornography and this type of thing.
04:31:38.440
Well, yeah, it could be, but it's just, you're giving advice based on your perspective.
04:31:46.240
Yes, I have a horrific past, but I'm a wonderful woman.
04:31:48.600
Yeah, but you're an exception, not the rule, and you know it.
04:31:51.300
You're an exception and not the rule, and you know it.
04:31:55.780
But there could be more women like me if they honestly had a relationship with the Lord and they surrendered to me.
04:32:05.000
There's very few women like you, and you know it.
04:32:07.200
And you would say it's a huge, massive red flag, right?
04:32:10.500
And that people should probably avoid it like the plague because of that.
04:32:14.460
If they don't have a relationship with the Lord and are not bearing fruit of repentance, then absolutely it's a red flag.
04:32:22.520
Even if they did, even if they are bearing the fruit of repentance.
04:32:25.200
You have one right next to you who's bearing the fruit of repentance by your own admission.
04:32:31.080
She's still in her beginning stages of Christianity.
04:32:34.300
When I came to church, I had bikini photos, all the things, right?
04:32:37.320
And I was sitting in a service, and my husband was actually the preacher, and he said,
04:32:41.880
if you don't like what you're attracting, change what you're promoting.
04:32:50.520
And you know that this is an exception, that your story, the reason it's intriguing and people are interested in it is because it's exceptional.
04:33:00.040
It's not something which is common, very few people go down the same path that you did and become religious zeal.
04:33:07.980
And so how could this not be a massive red flag?
04:33:10.200
And as a good mother, wouldn't the very first thing you would say is say, wait, let's put the fucking brakes on,
04:33:15.400
especially how familiar you are with that industry?
04:33:18.420
Like I said, if I met this person, I have great discernment, and I got to know them over time, and I could tell that they genuinely bear fruit of repentance.
04:33:28.980
Meaning, you know, it even shows that throughout their social media, not just social media, but privately.
04:33:36.900
But I would have to see that they bear fruit of repentance.
04:33:43.380
Assuming your husband, right, who has had no involvement in any of this type of stuff, right?
04:33:54.960
But assuming for a moment that he came to you and he said, I don't want my children to date anybody who is engaged in any kind of prostitution whatsoever, ever.
04:34:07.180
I don't want that, and I'm going to advise them against it.
04:34:10.800
Even if they found the Lord, I'm going to advise against it because I don't want them to do that because of what happened when they were in school with other people knowing that mom, you know, had these problems and this and that.
04:34:28.760
But this, again, is hypothetical because my husband has seen God move in my life to the point where if he actually got to know one of their potential dating partners and they had a past, yet they were bearing fruit.
04:34:43.840
The people in the Bible that were used the most were sinners.
04:34:45.980
So you don't think then that it's actually problematic for a Christian man to have such a stone-guarded rule for his children, right?
04:35:02.240
Like, God greatly used Paul and he was a murderer of Christians.
04:35:17.760
And Paul also never said that he deserved to have a wife because of this repentance.
04:35:23.640
Well, I never said that I deserved a husband, but I'm so grateful that God brought me one.
04:35:32.280
Is there something that you would say is unchristian or bad about a man who is a Christian saying
04:35:39.540
and setting the strong parameter on their relationship with their wife that they do not want their children involved in any way
04:35:48.300
with anybody who has a promiscuous past of prostitution?
04:35:52.660
So, now you're painting it as, like, a different couple because, see, I could never see my husband saying something like that
04:35:59.780
unless the person was clearly still, you know, unrepentant.
04:36:03.860
But, yeah, if it's another couple, like, I understand that people have boundaries and people have standards,
04:36:08.680
and that's perfectly okay for someone to say, hey, I don't want my child to date somebody that's been in the porn industry.
04:36:14.380
Maybe they have no experience with, you know, a transformed life or whatever their reasons may be.
04:36:22.480
So, if they have those boundaries and they're not accepting of it, right, they don't want it,
04:36:27.000
they're not supportive of it, they're not being bad parents.
04:36:29.980
A lot of people have sin, but theirs isn't so open.
04:36:32.240
And so, it's like, you're really making it like that's the worst thing you can do.
04:36:43.640
I thought there was no such thing as a worse sin.
04:37:06.080
It's okay for a person to set those types of boundaries with their children.
04:37:09.640
Hold on, let me try to include some other people here, all right?
04:37:13.120
Originally, you said, originally, you said, you think you can turn a hoe into a housewife?
04:37:36.300
Do you think it's a good move as a guy to do that?
04:37:45.700
I mean, it's like, what is, what is sub-optimal?
04:37:56.280
Do you think, if given the choice between wifing, I suppose a wife, and then turning a, okay, turning a normal woman into a wife versus turning a hoe into a wife, don't you think most men would pick the normal woman?
04:38:19.160
I mean, some guys were willing to wife a hoe still.
04:38:22.040
Well, are they willing to do it because they have no other options?
04:38:31.220
How many men like, like for long-term commitment, how many men want to wife a hoe?
04:38:42.340
Well, I think you can be a hoe and a wife at the same time, you know?
04:38:50.440
Like, there's like OnlyFans people, like, you know, like Lena, the plug, whatever, and her man, like, they like, are happily together.
04:38:59.940
They have kids, and, I mean, he accepts her how she is, and he's the same way, and they're happy together.
04:39:08.220
Do you object to me saying, I don't recommend men attempt to turn a hoe, your words, not mine, into a housewife?
04:39:22.000
And if there's other options, and there's plenty of women who are not or were not, to use your words, hoes, why not just pick a normal woman?
04:39:34.900
Yeah, I mean, based on preference, like I said.
04:39:37.180
Well, who, okay, let's assume, though, most men don't have the preference of dating women who are 3-0-foes.
04:39:48.760
Do you think most men have that, would prefer to date a 3-0-fo?
04:40:03.300
Actually, there's a lot of simps out there, so.
04:40:09.560
Some guys have the spirit of perversion, and they actually like it.
04:40:12.360
When I got out of OF, I had a lot of men that were like, man, I really missed that, I wish you did that.
04:40:16.840
But, so, there is men out there who, that is their thing, and I think, I'm not agreeing with it, but it is.
04:40:37.040
Well, I mean, I had like a past before, you know.
04:40:51.360
No, I have one, but I don't really use it like that.
04:40:56.680
Because we took a look at your Twitter, and I mean, I don't know.
04:41:02.560
As someone who values public-facing modesty, I mean, there's a photo on your Twitter.
04:41:08.460
And there's like, with the guy's seat all over you, okay?
04:41:25.520
Well, you said you don't consider yourself a what?
04:41:30.060
But there's a photo of you on Twitter that you posted with a guy splunk all over you.
04:41:55.760
I think for me, it was like, I used to, you know, sleep around a lot.
04:42:01.820
Sleeping with one person, you know, who was my boyfriend.
04:42:06.960
So, before you met him, were you sleeping around a lot?
04:42:10.240
When you first met him, were you still also sleeping around?
04:42:14.800
No, but like, obviously, when you first met him, like, maybe there were other guys in the picture,
04:42:23.200
Like, there was like, one other person at the time.
04:42:31.040
Did your boyfriend take you on a, he took you on like, first date, right?
04:42:38.200
Wait, how long from first date with boyfriend to being boyfriend-girlfriend?
04:42:47.360
Uh, on that first date, were you still sexually involved with the other guy?
04:42:58.500
You were, uh, were you sexually involved with any guy when you were on the first date with
04:43:07.260
Like, when we got together, like, when we went on the first date.
04:43:13.640
So, wait, from, okay, so you had sex, and then a week with a different guy, and then a
04:43:18.480
Yeah, I met him, and then I stopped every, like, I dropped my roster or whatever.
04:43:29.280
I don't know if you can turn a 3FO into a housewife.
04:43:34.820
I mean, like, that's, that situation you described would probably be a deal breaker for me and a
04:43:50.360
He was, like, interested in, like, OnlyFans and porn and all that, so.
04:43:55.140
Well, I mean, you met him also sort of at the strip club, correct?
04:44:01.600
Yeah, so he didn't see an issue with it, you know?
04:44:03.920
Let me get, try to get through some of my, uh, all my notes here from, for all of you
04:44:08.140
guys, and we'll try to, once I do that, we'll wrap up.
04:44:11.520
Let's see, hmm, okay, Peyton, 19, single, clinginess status in a relationship.
04:44:21.820
You wanted to, you wanted to talk about clinginess status, as well as how to keep the spark alive
04:44:30.140
Um, clinginess status, I've been thinking about recently.
04:44:33.860
I think I like being the clingy one in the relationship.
04:44:38.920
I think, I like, I like being the one who's been.
04:44:59.860
Um, and then you said, how to keep the spark alive during a relationship.
04:45:04.020
Yeah, um, I think that could be an interesting topic.
04:45:06.240
Like, I know for me, at least, like, in the past, like, after around the three-month mark,
04:45:12.120
the spark in a relationship definitely just tends to die down.
04:45:15.120
One of my friends was talking to me about that recently, about how her and her boyfriend
04:45:18.820
have been in a relationship for years since they were in high school.
04:45:21.580
And she's basically just, like, telling me how, like, the spark dies down.
04:45:38.540
I feel like just why the spark goes away, like, after you get comfortable with someone.
04:45:56.000
So, once the spark fades, what typically happens there?
04:46:01.320
I'm not thinking about, like, any specific scenario, but it just tends to, like, get not
04:46:06.520
You're not like, oh, my gosh, I'm so excited to hang out with this person every day.
04:46:25.740
I think it's, there's a little bit of an interesting thing that happens where we see a lot of
04:46:33.780
people break up, definitely at that two-year mark, and apparently what happens is, is your
04:46:39.300
body stops releasing the pheromones when you touch.
04:46:43.300
So, that's where they're like, man, like, we can keep our hands off of each other, and now you're just left
04:46:52.380
That physical attraction is good, but that's your body wanting you to procreate and make
04:46:58.640
And then after about two years, your body's like, all right, well, you're stuck with this
04:47:02.100
person, you're probably married by now, so it's all on choice at this point.
04:47:06.620
So, you have to make sure you make conscious choices on choosing to show up and date that
04:47:11.520
person every day, making sure you pick your five awesomes.
04:47:15.480
It's kind of what we call in our relationship where, like, if, let's say I do something that
04:47:19.320
bothers Jordan, our rule is that you have to think of three positive things they did to
04:47:25.900
Otherwise, all you're going to do is start seeing all of the negatives and all the icks.
04:47:30.620
So, for maybe your friend, if she's like, it just sucks and it's boring, each thing he does
04:47:35.900
that's boring, tell her, like, hey, but three things he did that is that quirk that you love,
04:47:40.360
like, you not wanting to go in the ocean without holding someone's hand.
04:47:43.580
And then it kind of recalibrates that brain to start seeing those positive things that she
04:47:53.080
Uh, actually, moving in on to you now, some of the pre-show notes, uh, you had a good
04:48:09.580
So, I think, um, a big reason why a lot of women tend to find themselves in these negative,
04:48:15.580
repetitive relationships is it is actually safe to them.
04:48:18.820
Um, you know, it's something that I personally can attest to and even I've had friends where
04:48:26.020
And it's because if you always know that it's going to be coming from this side, you know
04:48:30.100
You're not prepared to get stabbed in the left rib.
04:48:31.980
And so, when you date such a great guy that is safe and he's loyal and he's, you know,
04:48:36.620
this amazing provider, you get this angst about it or you're like, you're just always waiting
04:48:45.280
And so, you'll see that these women will constantly pick those regular red flags and it's because
04:48:50.760
that's what they know and it's what's safe to them.
04:48:53.200
Um, yeah, and it's, it's that, it's not spark size.
04:49:03.060
I'm just, I'm just curious about this and this is, uh, maybe diverting a little bit,
04:49:07.040
but why do so many women say woman instead of women?
04:49:20.320
Is there some kind of block that happens where you can't say women?
04:49:38.360
I'm like, what, what the hell is going on with that?
04:49:41.400
I'm just pronunciation, but no, I'm meaning it as a multiple, uh.
04:49:49.480
Yeah, but that's what I'm, M-E-N is how I'm meaning to say it.
04:49:54.480
I'm just curious because it happens so often that I'm just like,
04:49:57.560
maybe there's something I missed in the culture that I don't get.
04:50:04.000
Um, but it's just something that, you know, I feel like not enough ladies maybe have those
04:50:11.080
conversations where, you know, somebody sits down and says, why do you think you keep doing
04:50:14.820
And it's, why do you think you keep putting yourself in this pattern?
04:50:16.940
Because like, you are the common denominator and they're like, well, I don't know.
04:50:20.340
And it's like, is it because you realize that that toxicity is what you know, and that's
04:50:24.980
And maybe you need to just put yourself in that unknown because that safe guy is actually
04:50:32.940
Like for me, I got, was abused right after the military and it was one of those things
04:50:37.100
like, you know, my dad growing up, he was very like hard to, you know, please.
04:50:42.600
He was very like all the things that my dad was, it's like what I went for.
04:50:47.600
And my, you know, my mom stayed and it was like all this where it was like walking on eggshells
04:50:53.920
You didn't know what, you know, was going to happen.
04:50:57.880
And I stayed in these, now looking back, I'm like, oh my gosh, if you're miserable, why
04:51:04.360
So until you have a time in your life where you heal and you're like, wait, I need to back
04:51:12.720
So ladies jump on it, but it is definitely possible to stop liking that red flag.
04:51:17.800
I think that you often will bond with your trauma if it's unhealed.
04:51:21.580
And I also think that you subconsciously attract who you think you deserve.
04:51:25.220
So if you don't recognize your value and worth, you will settle for somebody who's comparable
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04:52:24.120
You've said you've been in and out of relationships a lot and haven't really been on any crazy dates.
04:52:39.340
You found out that you love finding men who need to be fixed, but that's never happening again.
04:52:50.420
Well, I think I want to be needed by someone or wanted to be needed by someone, so I would find people who need my support and love.
04:53:08.020
I want to, like, be in a partnership with someone instead of, like...
04:53:16.320
You also said, I also think getting involved in your friends' relationships, like, if you don't like their partner, it's pointless because they are the ones who need to figure it out.
04:53:25.580
In most cases, disregarding any seriously abusive ones, and I also think giving a girl...
04:53:31.840
So, you're against getting, like, involved in the details of friends' relationships?
04:53:37.360
I just don't think it's helpful to anyone in this situation.
04:53:40.820
That would be, like, you have to leave, like, obviously disregarding, like, seriously abusive ones, but, like, if your friend is madly in love with a guy that you don't like, you just can't do anything about it.
04:53:52.760
And, like, I've been on the opposite side of it, and it's true, like, she might know how often...
04:54:00.680
Like, I feel like, I don't know, girls will, like, with their female friends, will be like, this guy's terrible, blah, blah, blah.
04:54:09.220
And, like, most of the time, that never sways the girl to, like, break.
04:54:15.680
Sometimes, most times, it doesn't do anything, and then that's just toxic.
04:54:18.920
Yeah, it's also always in your best interest, like, when your friends are doing that, but, like, you have to make the decision at the end of the day to get out of it.
04:54:26.140
And I think it also creates some issues between the friendship and the relationship, because you want to be supportive of your friend, like, no matter what happens, you know?
04:54:37.200
When you have a good friendship with a narcissist, when you have a narcissist, because they need constant attention.
04:54:42.480
Also, though, I do want to point out, one thing I think women tend to do, a bit more than men, is you'll only go to your friends, like, you're not going to tell your friends, oh, things are great.
04:54:57.440
But when there's an issue, that's when you're going to go to your friends.
04:55:00.780
So, all your friends here is all the negative things, and women will also do this with family members, too.
04:55:06.580
Oh, we're going through some trouble, blah, blah, blah.
04:55:09.660
And you'll only talk about the negative things.
04:55:11.800
And also, in addition to that, Andrew actually articulated this perfectly the last time he was on, I think, is you'll downplay the ways that you were perhaps culpable to some sort of issue or argument in the relationship.
04:55:27.980
And you will emphasize the ways in which you think that your partner is at fault for some argument or situation.
04:55:37.080
And so, you'll always paint it like your partner's in the wrong, you're in the right, you downplay what you did wrong, you upplay, I don't know if that's a word, but upplay, exaggerate the ways they did wrong.
04:55:51.440
And then it makes for all your friend, your friend group, and family to hate your partner.
04:55:56.600
That's so funny, because I feel like whenever I get out of, like, a toxic relationship, I feel like that's when all of, like, the bad stuff starts flowing out to my friends.
04:56:04.080
Like, during it, I want to be, like, everything's fine and everything's great, you know, and, like, don't, like, think anything's wrong, you know?
04:56:11.720
But the second I'm out of it, I'm, like, wait till you hear what he did, you know?
04:56:15.220
Yeah, but that's the whole point that Brian is making, is that it's always when the relationship is over.
04:56:22.080
Well, not always, but it's common enough that we see it that, you know, the guy's an evil villain, you know what I mean?
04:56:31.060
He's horrible, he's an evil villain, this and that.
04:56:33.080
And now you have the advantage of so many women who are on Instagram and, you know, places like this who have these kind of amassed audiences, much harder for men to do because they don't just take their shirt off and people come a-flocking, right?
04:56:46.060
So suddenly there's all sorts of reputational damage which can happen to them, and their side of the story is never even told.
04:56:54.860
And it's, like, considering the amount of mental illness that I've seen on this show, I really just don't think that women are angels, okay?
04:57:05.960
Yeah, and I don't think men are angels either, you know?
04:57:08.820
Like, I don't think you can, like, put, like, a gender and just say they're great, you know?
04:57:14.160
No, I think we can because what is the SSRI usage of women, do you know, in comparison to men?
04:57:21.960
Antipsychotic, antipsychotic, depression, drugs, mental illness?
04:57:42.140
We're talking about a really good topic for a second.
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I'm saying that women and their culpability, at least in modernity, seems to be very low.
04:57:51.140
In fact, basically every tale that I've even heard tonight when we get into the relationship status is it's all his fault.
04:58:02.300
It's also like in these situations when, like, I am going to go to my friends and I'm, oh, sorry.
04:58:11.900
Okay, so my family and my friends care about me.
04:58:16.160
They don't really care about my partner, you know?
04:58:21.520
So I don't feel like I have to, what is it, like stand up for him.
04:58:27.220
Right, it's way better for you to put yourself in the position where you didn't do anything wrong so that socially the people around you feel like you were victimized, right?
04:58:39.080
It's more like I get to, like, if you're in a crazy relationship and you're constantly defending this person to your friends and family and the second you're out of it now, you're like, oh, I can, like, talk freely.
04:58:54.300
And I guess, yeah, that might make you seem like a victim if you are a victim in it, you know?
04:58:58.520
Well, it gives a lot of post hoc justification, right?
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And now suddenly when the relationship is done, oh, there were so many problems you don't even know.
04:59:11.600
It's like, it's old after a while because, honestly, I don't believe half of the tales that I hear about these men.
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And the reason I don't is because of that exact thing.
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Why in the relationship are you consistently just saying, this is perfect, he's Mr. Right, everything is great, then suddenly the relationship ends and he was a toxic, abusive asshole the second that happens.
04:59:37.460
Doesn't that seem like it's a little bit contradictory to itself?
04:59:41.380
I think in the beginning, a lot of times guys will show their good side.
04:59:44.240
And, of course, the women are like, oh, my gosh, he's so great.
04:59:47.500
And then, all of a sudden, the truth comes out.
04:59:50.000
But you've already told all these people that you love, like, he's the one.
04:59:58.060
You want this relationship to work so bad, you know you can't tell the truth.
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And then when you're out of it, you have freedom.
05:00:06.940
Because you're already trauma-bonded to this person.
05:00:18.100
So, as a Christian, you know when you have sex with somebody that you actually are spiritually, it's two becomes one.
05:00:24.300
And so when you're having sex outside of marriage.
05:00:26.180
No, having sex with somebody, two doesn't become one.
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But it's still, like, at the end of the day, when I got abused, I was accountable.
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Well, Angie had a record of hitting women before.
05:00:52.320
I chose to listen to the lies of the enemy and not listen to my gut and God telling me to leave.
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So, I think that you're misconstruing a lot of this.
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Why is it, though, it seems like women almost seem drawn...
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But there seems to be some draw to these men who are toxic.
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You subconsciously attract who you think you deserve.
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Maybe you were abused or belittled as a child and then you didn't heal.
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And so then you grow up and you try to basically...
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You know, you get into these relationships with people that almost mirror the abuse that you've been through.
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Are you sure that that's all that have dated narcissists?
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I think, because it's on a scale, there's people with narcissistic tendencies, but it doesn't make them a narcissist.
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People don't even know that, but if you look at the sociology based around narcissism, it's actually really rare that somebody's actually a narcissist.
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The thing is, if you don't have God in your life, you are a natural narcissist.
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Yet, every woman seems to have been with this teeny, tiny, select portion of the population who's a narcissist.
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And I just kind of wonder, how is this possible?
05:02:45.720
All of us have traits of narcissism, and we don't have God in our life.
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No, all of us do not have traits of narcissism.
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Well, this type, the reason that this happens, the reason that so many women fancy themselves to be sociologists and think that they're diving into sociology and that they can make these predictors for what works or doesn't work in relationships is because they're fucking being narcissists.
05:03:17.740
If you look at the scale of narcissism from female to male, it's much higher in females than it is in men, and it's still rare, still rare, and yet most of the men that we talk to come through these panels or that I talk to absent them have not dated narcissists.
05:03:33.160
They dated crazy women, but somehow all these women are dating all these narcissists, and the numbers don't seem to add up to me, so I just wonder about female culpability here a little bit and if these guys are actually narcissists or if maybe you're putting us on.
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Because maybe men express it more than women do.
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If you're talking about a grandiose narcissist, that could be different, but again, it's very rare.
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A narcissist is going to be somebody who is completely self-absorbed.
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You're not even going to be able to tell that they're narcissists necessarily.
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People often confuse confidence with narcissism, which is insanity.
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They often confuse people who are correct with being narcissists because it makes them feel bad, but there's not that many narcissists who are around.
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I don't understand how all these women are dating all these narcissists.
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You raised your hand when I asked if you dated a narcissist.
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He was just very self-centered and would do things that were rude and weird and then somehow find a way to blame it on me.
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He was rude and weird and that made him a narcissist?
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This is what I mean by why it is that I have trouble believing this kind of nonsense about all the narcissists who are around.
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Because I think when a lot of you women say that you've dated a narcissist, what you really mean is I dated a guy who didn't kiss my fucking ass.
05:05:38.960
I mean, I dated a guy that was a pimp, so he was definitely a self-absorbed man who his, like, he was really out to get what he could get for himself.
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Yeah, but him being a pimp doesn't make him a narcissist either.
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What actually made your pimp a narcissist other than you think he was?
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Don't ask me a question before you answer my question.
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But we have to base it off of your definition, you know?
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Why can you interrupt me yet I can't interrupt you and you're interrupting me currently.
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All I said was don't ask me a question before you answer my question.
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So the question is what makes him a narcissist other than you think he is?
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I've dated a lot of men in my lifetime and one thing that I notice, a common trait through
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all of them, including my loving husband who I love so much.
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I have to really pressure him to go to the doctor, even if he's hurt or like he's got
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It's like a lot of men don't want to go to the doctor.
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Their teeth are falling out and stuff like that.
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Yeah, but they're not acting out in society in insane ways.
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So you would expect that you would see them being a complete psychopathic lunatic if it
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was true that they're just mentally ill people who are not treated.
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I know men who are depressed and have intrusive thoughts and they refuse to go to therapy
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You would expect that if the mental illness of men was as high as it was in women, that
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you would see that reflected in society and you don't see it reflected in society.
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And not only that, to rejoin to this, what actually makes your pimp a narcissist again
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You made up that he was a narcissist because you want him to be one, right?
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But anyway, you guys said that men are deleting themselves more than women.
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So how do men not have mental illnesses as well?
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I love women, but I'm just trying to prove a point here that you're saying that women
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are the ones that are all mentally insane, yet men are the ones that are deleting themselves
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They're not suffering from the massive rates of depression.
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They're not suffering from these conditions which require SSRIs.
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They're not suffering from these conditions overwhelmingly like women are.
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Because apparently, according to the statistic earlier, they are deleting themselves.
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Okay, you can be self-deceptive and not have a mental illness.
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Why is it a requirement that you can deceive yourself and that that means you're mentally
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That if you delete yourself, you're saying that people that delete themselves are not
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If you're talking about men who unalive themselves, yes, that happens at a much higher rate.
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They end up unaliving themselves because of that.
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They're also under all sorts of stressors that women are not under.
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And what you're going to see is that the, by the way, this is also conditioned to certain
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For instance, black men rarely unalive themselves in comparison to white men.
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Would this mean that white men are just generally more mentally ill than black men?
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So, no, you've got to kind of dive into that a little bit more before you can make kind
05:10:31.640
But back to this, I still want you to understand that the only diagnosis that you gave for this
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No, I gave you some traits, and that's why I'm asking you, so what is your definition?
05:10:50.920
Right, so the only thing that makes him a narcissist is because you say so.
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And if he went to therapy, he'd probably get diagnosed with it.
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Yeah, and I also admitted that I was a narcissist.
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05:11:37.460
So narcissism is claiming to speak in tongues to help you feel special and better about your past.
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I think he had to pull it out of people anyways.
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I don't think anybody was like, I speak in tongues.
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Like, that doesn't make you closer to God at all.
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But aren't those hidden things that you were just talking about earlier that need to get drawn out?
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Aren't those hidden things that you were just talking about earlier that need to get drawn out?
05:12:06.440
Wait, Andrew, can I ask you a question about the speaking in tongues thing?
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Yeah, purely Protestant and generally only with people like Pentecostals, things like this.
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It's in no way endorsed by any Catholic church at all, nor Orthodox church, nor most Protestant churches.
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But is there, like, anything about, like, maybe...
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You can look up the scientific, how it affects the brain.
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It actually, the way that tongues, like, they have done research on how tongues affects the brain,
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and it actually puts people in a more peaceful state.
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What if Satanists, if they went and they studied Satanists, and when Satanists prayed to Satan,
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No, I mean, I would have to look up the complete study, but I have, I've seen it,
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but it's, like, just, you know, I'm tired right now, to be really honest.
05:13:11.460
I'm usually in bed by now, I nurse my baby, and we should be in sleep.
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But anyways, no, there, I have seen a study where the brain matter basically is, like,
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less gray, and there's different reasons for that.
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I wish I had that right now to show you, but I don't, because I don't have access to my own.
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Yeah, but the less gray matter in the brain study also indicates that that could be an indication
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No, no, no, no, I'm not going to stop it, because the science is the science.
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We've got to key in on the science here, right?
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Please just Google, because you can be on your computer right now.
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Of Satanists getting a benefit, getting an emotional benefit from praying to Satan,
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No, of course not, but praying in tongues is in the Bible.
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No, even Paul says, if you can speak in tongues, it's nonsense, almost no Protestants practice it,
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none of the original church founders ever practiced it, they knew exactly what it was,
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but on top of that, you saying that because it gives people peace doing it,
05:14:13.240
or it affects their brain in a positive way, I can give you tons of activities which are terrible
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for people that do the exact same thing, that doesn't make it a biblical practice.
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Yeah, Paul says in the Bible, if you can pray in tongues, if you have faith.
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Hold on, hold on, I'm moving on, I'm moving on.
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Andrew, that was not me speaking in tongues, by the way, that's just my own thing.
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You only got to do the, you got to do the, that's what it looks like, it's crazy.
05:14:44.880
Oh, okay, they keep calling you a Pharisee, Andrew, I don't know.
05:15:13.360
Yeah, I don't know what the legal definition is.
05:15:15.780
Asia, you said that the guy has to be more into the girl for it to work.
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Honestly, maybe, I should not have said that before I met you guys, but.
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I think when women feel like more comfortable, it's like when the guy, sorry, I keep doing
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It's like when the guy likes them more, so they feel more like secure and comfortable
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But then it's also like, how do you measure who likes who more, you know, so it's a little
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I think women have to like the man more than the reverse.
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I don't necessarily, I don't have like a study I can show you that this is the case.
05:16:14.380
But it does seem to me that typically, for example, like I'm sure you'd turn, like if
05:16:22.580
that was the ultimate thing that you desired in a relationship, there's tons of simps out
05:16:27.460
Like I'm sure there's dudes that you friend zone that would fucking love, like you way
05:16:34.460
But you fucking, like it's so much, so often the case that women are like, like the chase
05:16:40.580
and like a guy who's a challenge and like a guy who's a bit toxic or an asshole who's
05:16:56.420
But it's like, if it was the case that women actually wanted that, you would just be
05:17:02.940
dating the dudes in your friend zone who have a far greater interest in you than you have
05:17:11.480
Once I've healed, I don't like the toxic, but I did at one point, that was what I went
05:17:16.120
So I think when I got Jesus, I knew my identity.
05:17:32.940
I just think it's way better if the woman is simping.
05:17:51.860
We had quite, let me see if there's any notes here from you, Brittany.
05:17:54.340
Um, former feminist, now traditional, you're in the, uh, the adult industry for seven years
05:18:10.780
Um, your husband, Christian pastor, um, for your, you married your husband, wonderful
05:18:18.840
Um, you have had to deal with the repercussions of your past.
05:18:26.060
Uh, you, oh, you waited to have sex until marriage.
05:18:35.480
Uh, how long do you think you should wait before you, uh, get frisky with a, a gentleman?
05:18:43.320
Peyton Gallagher, the third, Gertrude, Peyton Gallagher.
05:19:08.940
Well, you haven't been with anyone in a year, yeah?
05:19:13.620
So, have you, uh, have you always waited three months with every guy you've been with?
05:19:29.740
Bro, these girls, freshman, fresh, first freshman quarter or semester, depending on where you go.
05:19:35.820
So, you'll put up 20 bodies in, 20 bodies, bro.
05:19:44.380
Where do you, where do you, would you say you go to school?
05:19:59.120
So, three months, every single guy you've hooked up with, three, you've waited three months to
05:20:05.820
If, if, if Paige DMs me after this and says, bullshit.
05:20:15.560
By the way, is she pissed off that she got brought up on the podcast?
05:20:33.080
The same as the three month spark goes away three months, like three months and you have
05:20:38.520
Wait, you said, didn't you say there was a three month spark?
05:20:51.880
Uh, so you're dating six foot tall, ripped dudes and they're waiting three months to have
05:21:11.200
I mean, not, not dating, but like, that's just ideal.
05:21:25.860
I would say that when I was very young, I wasn't so on top of it, but.
05:21:31.520
Um, we waited two dates, but we were long distance, so he had to fly to come and see
05:21:43.720
I think it should, you should get them, get to know them a little bit.
05:21:56.840
Um, I think you should just like get to know them first.
05:21:59.520
So like, yeah, whatever you're comfortable with, like two, three.
05:22:16.220
Cause when you get them soul ties, it don't matter.
05:22:23.820
So when you have, when you have sex, it's like a spiritual connection.
05:23:00.180
Well, actually, Andrew, I got to push back a little bit here.
05:23:03.380
Uh, you could have a non-intact hymen and be a virgin.
05:23:14.660
I'm just saying that I think that some of the women who claim that they fell on a fence
05:23:22.680
post and broke their hymen might be giving us a story, right?
05:23:52.220
Uh, it was, uh, date like a man, think, or think, date like a man, think, I don't know.
05:24:08.100
I'm not saying that I agree with that, but that's just, you know.
05:24:10.600
I, I really do believe waiting until marriage brings, uh, produces a lot of benefits.
05:24:17.260
I believe that waiting until marriage produces a lot of benefits.
05:24:19.820
I was able to fall in love with my husband for his mind, his heart.
05:24:25.420
So it's like when you're in a relationship and it can be not the best relationship for you
05:24:29.560
and you start overlooking all the wrongs because, you know, sex can get in the way
05:24:36.460
Um, and when you're married and you're having sex with your spouse,
05:24:39.680
then it helps you to overlook all the, the offenses and so forth.
05:24:45.540
I think that it can really hinder, um, relationships though, like outside of marriage.
05:24:50.860
Um, for me, I, I have a interesting little perspective on it is they were doing studies
05:25:01.620
Um, and it was talking about the DNA and the memory stored in DNA.
05:25:10.980
No, just got super pregnant like five minutes ago.
05:25:19.900
And what they're finding is men's DNA is getting inserted into females' brains.
05:25:25.220
Outside, if you've carried a child all the way to full-term pregnancy.
05:25:29.500
So they're doing autopsies right now and they're finding that when you are having unprotected sex
05:25:34.240
with male sexual partners, their DNA is actually getting stored in your brain.
05:25:38.700
And so when you go back into the studies with the sixties and you kind of combine this information
05:25:47.580
And so what they were doing with these worms is they were electrocuting them.
05:25:50.240
They were chopping them all up, put them in a blender, regrow them and then see.
05:25:55.480
So the worms were able to avoid it in an evolutionary way.
05:25:58.460
So for anybody who believes that there's generational trauma or there's, you know, you can absorb
05:26:03.980
and whatever that stuff is, I think that it's good to wait till marriage because now in this
05:26:10.420
newer science that we are finding in these autopsies, like they just published this maybe
05:26:14.480
a month ago, uh, seven years after intercourse with a male partner, they're finding his DNA
05:26:20.060
Personally, I don't really want to be absorbing a bunch of randoms DNA into my brain.
05:26:24.460
Um, this is all though to be, now this would actually be good for, for my points, right?
05:26:29.800
But in the spirit of fairness, this is all cutting edge and we don't know for sure that
05:26:39.300
I've heard, I've heard of the microchimerism thing.
05:26:41.740
I mean, there's like, this has been since the sixties with the flatworms, but now they're
05:26:47.660
Cause I tried to find the specific doctor in the specific white paper.
05:26:50.980
Cause I figured somebody would ask and they're just saying there's too many people adding to
05:26:54.920
this research that nobody can come like claim this science.
05:26:57.580
And I think it's evidence to people strongly, like after sex, you either hate the person
05:27:05.300
It's not like, you know, it's proven not, I mean, there are men who maybe just do it
05:27:11.460
It's not, it's not a question about the DNA being there.
05:27:16.040
Like for instance, if you had sex for money, do you have an emotional connection with the
05:27:21.660
I'm not saying this is about emotion, but I'm saying that it is known like, hang on, hang
05:27:26.080
on, if you have sex with a person for money, do you suddenly have an emotional connection
05:27:34.740
I mean, spiritually, I think you definitely can.
05:27:38.220
But also most people in the industry are on drugs or drinking.
05:27:42.620
They're never, they never want to be sober for that, that activity.
05:27:46.260
It's not like what guys think it is when they watch it.
05:27:48.500
No, and I get it, but I'm just saying that I've, like for instance, there was a woman
05:27:54.460
on a panel on this very show, not very long ago, who told me that she could turn it on
05:28:01.220
She literally sat where the gallon pink is sitting right now, Brian, you remember her?
05:28:05.580
She said, I can turn it on and I can turn it off whenever I want to.
05:28:14.100
Yeah, so anyway, yeah, she, that's what she had said.
05:28:19.000
She'd said that she could turn it on, she could turn it off whenever she wanted to, if
05:28:25.240
But what does that have to do with it being confirmed that DNA can't transfer?
05:28:31.560
No, no, listen, never, never, ever knowing something scientifically is super difficult.
05:28:37.680
Knowing it, like actually having knowledge that it's true, very, very hard.
05:28:43.500
That's why we have theories, which have been around for years and years and years, which
05:28:47.020
are called theories, even though they are basic knowledge, like the theory of gravity,
05:28:52.320
Knowing something scientifically is difficult, and you never want to jump to the conclusion
05:28:56.640
that it's true, just because you have some studies which might confirm whatever this is.
05:29:02.960
You never want to do that, it's always a bad policy.
05:29:04.800
So the theory is how it's there, but the confirmation of the male's DNA is confirmed, and this is
05:29:22.860
So the thing is, it's like confirming this, depending on sample size, depending on what type
05:29:27.260
of experiment was done, having this replicated over multiple years so that we have actual
05:29:34.200
So I'm always really careful and cautious when it comes to applied scientific studies,
05:29:38.340
which that would be, because they would not claim knowledge of this.
05:29:41.780
Sociology, sure, you can claim whatever the fuck you want, it's all nonsense, but applied
05:29:45.800
science, yeah, it's a much more difficult thing.
05:29:48.660
So this is something, like you said, the microcurism, since the 60s, all I'm saying is, even if
05:29:55.340
it is a low rate, it's the fact that this is a possibility that if you have unprotected
05:30:02.460
sex with partners, you can't actually absorb their DNA, and it's something that's going
05:30:12.940
And it, like, gets into the brain or some shit?
05:30:16.440
But it's different for men, and it is different for women.
05:30:21.100
We're made biologically different, and this is that whole vibe.
05:30:23.940
Well, let me ask you a question that just comes to mind right off the top of my head.
05:30:28.200
If a man does not come inside of a woman, does she retain his DNA then in her brain?
05:30:42.720
It's the DNA is there as an intercourse partner.
05:30:46.440
Preferably or primarily in women who carry up to term in pregnancy, but also to women
05:30:51.320
who have had no signs of pregnancy seven years after.
05:30:58.600
But it didn't say has to and leave it in there.
05:31:08.660
Psychopaths have the tendencies to use knives, look at people, talk to people, drive cars,
05:31:18.300
Reuters' study did not find women store DNA from intercourse with men.
05:31:26.400
One fact check by Reuters, but go back all the way to like Macmillan, going back to the
05:31:31.600
Yeah, I know, but you just stated it like it's fact.
05:31:34.400
It's such a problem when it comes to debates, especially.
05:31:36.860
Reuters, look at who they are, where they're from.
05:31:38.540
Don't state things, especially in science, which are scientific fact, because they're
05:31:45.320
You've got studies going from all the way from the 60s, and this becomes a very political
05:31:50.640
And if you look at who sponsors Reuters, you have to understand where is the money coming
05:31:58.420
But you're taking one fact checker saying it's not true over studies all the way from 60s.
05:32:04.380
The fact that that men's DNA could reside with women for up to seven years past, I don't
05:32:09.840
even understand how that would politically be bad for the left.
05:32:18.440
So I'm just saying you're going to take studies all the way from the 60s that are multiple
05:32:24.820
studies, and you're going to completely throw those all out over one fact checker who they
05:32:31.240
have also been wrong, and then gone back and was like, oh, we were wrong.
05:32:34.580
So I'm just saying they're not always the most reliable, and they're very politically
05:32:40.680
Now, that's not what this podcast is about, so I'm going to leave it at that.
05:32:44.020
But I would say wait till marriage because there's a chance of a random DNA absorption.
05:32:49.420
And I would say that I would love to get behind this and tell you, yes, it's great because
05:32:54.920
it supports my position, but you should be really, really careful when you talk about
05:32:59.980
anything which is science applied, which is cutting edge, and just came out last week
05:33:07.080
They'll say, well, this is supporting other scientific data, et cetera, et cetera.
05:33:11.200
What I always tend to find is that it's usually not true, which is why you see all the cutting
05:33:15.720
edge on the transgender stuff being proven to be untrue.
05:33:29.920
What they're doing is they're making references that they're building on.
05:33:55.280
You said that you dated a guy who tried to kill you.
05:34:01.840
There's not really a whole lot to say about it.
05:34:50.040
It was like, chicks just want to start getting choked.
05:34:53.700
To be completely clear, he was not choking me during sex.
05:35:15.740
Women are getting very turned off by being told.
05:35:18.600
We did play the Charlie Kirk video about the women not being in their prime in their 30s,
05:35:25.520
This would have been perhaps good to weigh in on.
05:35:28.640
Women are getting very turned off by being told they'll expire after 30 and things like that.
05:35:33.760
It's making them not want to get married or have children.
05:35:37.020
I don't think women expire after 30, but it's just sort of...
05:35:42.080
As you start aging, you become less attractive.
05:35:54.640
You don't like the extreme position of, like, expire.
05:35:57.260
I think that saying things like that, I think that if you want women to get married and have
05:36:00.560
children or, like, wait till marriage and things like that, I wouldn't say those things.
05:36:06.300
It makes women not want to get married, for sure.
05:36:10.200
Well, wouldn't it achieve that goal, actually, to have them get married younger?
05:36:20.040
I think it makes women scared of getting married.
05:36:23.680
Oh, because their husband will, like, leave them once they turn 30?
05:36:26.940
Well, women initiate over 80, about 80% of divorces, so, I mean...
05:36:39.760
I think if you get married young, too, I think it's until you turn, like, what is it, 26?
05:36:45.100
Like, scary for the woman or scary for the man?
05:36:53.340
Yeah, I think it's scary, like, to get married.
05:36:55.600
It's so high, like, 80% of women are, like, negotiating.
05:37:15.380
What a sexist statement for you to make to blame women.
05:37:42.240
You don't think sex work is empowering for women.
05:37:48.740
Yeah, I just don't push it on other women or try to say that I'm empowered through it.
05:38:02.100
I wouldn't say that that's why I do it, though.
05:38:04.640
I do it because I think sex work is bad for women.
05:38:07.400
Wait, you do sex work because you think it's bad for women?
05:38:12.320
I wouldn't say that it's empowering because I think it's bad for women.
05:38:23.420
I just think that it's a very hard environment to be in.
05:38:27.940
And I do think that depending on the type of sex work that you do, that I can cause pair
05:38:43.360
I'm glad that you're being honest about that because a lot of people, my former self included,
05:38:48.120
would really paint a picture of like, this is the best job ever and I'm making so much
05:38:54.220
money and look at it, you know, and it's really a lie that most women won't admit to.
05:38:59.880
That was part of the reason I wanted to come on was because I think that people try to
05:39:03.560
push that it's okay and I don't want that message to be...
05:39:19.880
I don't think it's okay to push the idea that it's a good thing to young women.
05:39:26.000
Just to backtrack here, but you are engaged in that activity, right?
05:39:33.880
So then it wouldn't be good for you to do either, right?
05:39:46.400
Like, you're literally saying it's bad for me to do, but then you're going to do it anyway.
05:40:03.180
What, like, what's the exit barrier absent money?
05:40:14.120
What would be your exit barrier other than money?
05:40:21.420
You just do it because it makes you money, right?
05:40:23.720
Well, I would stop doing it, like, if my husband had a problem with it, or, like, there are various things that would make me stop.
05:40:37.560
Yeah, but on the money thing, right, is it just money for you, then?
05:40:47.240
I think getting out of it, it takes a lot of work.
05:40:49.440
I think it's also going to make it hard because of the fact...
05:40:51.160
Yeah, but how does it take a lot of work to get out of it absent the money, though?
05:40:59.320
Like, if you won the lottery tomorrow, would you still do it?
05:41:03.660
So then it's really just a money barrier, right?
05:41:06.060
Yeah, and then, too, the fact that your fiance is doing scenes with you, that's going to
05:41:11.120
make it harder to get out because he's in agreement with it, and so, like, that's going
05:41:15.760
to keep you stuck longer than you actually want to be in there.
05:41:20.360
We should bring your husband on the show with you.
05:41:28.540
He's at home, and he said, my little two-year-old is still awake because she's waiting to be nursed.
05:41:34.440
Okay, maybe another time, another time, but that would be interesting, be interesting.
05:41:59.620
Like the dating, or like, would you date this guy?
05:42:11.800
I know some of you are in relationships, which is to entertain the question as if you were single, if you want.
05:42:17.160
I'm trying to get these guys, these guys are my homies.
05:42:21.000
I'm trying to get them set up with, like, some ladies.
05:42:24.040
So, would you date, we're doing a segment now called, would you date this man?
05:42:55.460
And this is Zach, and he's got an axe, so he can protect you.
05:43:04.680
He's a very good guy, very nice guy, very smart.
05:43:20.660
He's a little bit too skinny for me, but besides that, I would probably.
05:43:30.040
He didn't seem to have any friends in his post.
05:43:48.000
I've never done that, but I think me and him would have to do something.
05:43:58.640
What if a guy were to say, I'm just not into women who used to do sex work?
05:44:07.300
But why is it okay for you to say, I don't want to date a guy who plays video games, but
05:44:11.340
it didn't seem like you were okay with men saying, I wouldn't really accept a girl with
05:44:17.800
Well, we're just talking from a profile picture.
05:44:24.240
I'm saying that's okay that they have a preference.
05:44:26.720
If that's what, I'm not saying they can't have a preference.
05:44:33.320
But if God told me this is the man and he plays video games, then guess what?
05:44:55.880
So, so let's say, let's say you found a guy who was maybe a weightlifter, but he thought
05:45:02.800
He didn't really care too much about it, but he knew that you were into it.
05:45:06.920
He was like, well, go have fun, play your volleyball and, you know, enjoy yourself.
05:45:10.820
But he happened to also have one of these frivolous hobbies you don't like, like playing
05:45:17.420
When I see most, like I was one time with a gamer, they spend like, it's not like a little
05:45:24.420
Like we're talking, it takes like all night, all day.
05:45:29.420
It's like they get up to poop and then go back to playing.
05:45:32.920
And so that's where it's like, it just depends.
05:45:36.500
If it's just something he does once in a while, of course, it's not a problem.
05:45:41.600
Or like if he, if, if, because I think you can make some.
05:45:46.940
So like, let's say that he's taken that frivolous.
05:45:52.640
Well, somebody called it a frivolous hobby, right?
05:45:57.500
I've made a niche out of adventure photography and survival, right?
05:46:09.300
If he takes a hobby that most people, but he's made it into a career, then would you respect that?
05:46:15.920
I just think we wouldn't have as much in common.
05:46:20.400
At the same time, that is his, that's what matters most to him.
05:46:23.840
So that would be more like, you know what I'm saying?
05:46:28.560
I'm not going to be with a guy who doesn't like helping people.
05:46:33.320
Let's say this, the man that I just showed you, it wasn't just a hobby.
05:46:40.440
And he was actually rich from playing video games, World of Warcraft.
05:46:46.760
I'm talking millions, making millions of dollars a year, millions of dollars a year playing video games.
05:46:54.860
I mean, definitely that he's not, he's not just sitting around playing for hours and hours for no reason.
05:47:00.540
Um, he's doing it and making, you know, providing for himself, but, but I mean, we'd still have to have something in common.
05:47:08.200
Like if that's his passion, I do think that if you have two people that are the complete opposite over time, it might be interesting, but you need to have a balance or have something like in common.
05:47:20.020
Are we still going off of like looks or what you saw?
05:47:23.800
Um, no, damn, if you're single, if you're single, if I was single, I probably would have said no.
05:47:28.980
Cause it's just a page full of selfies and he looks so quirky and fun in them.
05:47:34.400
Would you, if you're, if you're single, if you're single, I don't know.
05:47:42.500
So if he was willing to, to like exercise and get fit and stuff, maybe, but my husband's Filipino.
05:47:52.880
Um, but he had, he had a nice Viking apparel going.
05:47:58.520
If you could pull it back up, Nick, his name is Zach.
05:48:01.220
He's the owner of OTK network, Star Forged PCs.
05:48:03.920
Uh, his, uh, his gamer name, I guess his Asmongold, he's one of the, he's one of the top Twitch streamers on Twitch, regularly getting like, I don't know exact viewership numbers, but, uh, one of the top streamers makes millions and millions of dollars a year.
05:48:28.420
And he does have axes and he knows how to cook a steak.
05:48:45.380
No, I mean, I think like I've dated guys who are not cute, not that were skinny.
05:48:56.080
I've dated a guy who most people would be like, no way.
05:49:16.520
He's got, uh, you know, he's got, you know, photos and shit.
05:50:12.040
One of the, another very popular, while he's moved platforms, but Twitch streamer.
05:50:21.000
In fact, I think he got a deal for a hundred million dollars.
05:50:33.480
Let's say he was serious about you, wanted to wife you up.
05:50:44.760
He'd be able to pay for two first class tickets.
05:50:55.180
No, he's a, he's a millionaire many times over.
05:51:09.100
You realize like how pampered your life, not, maybe it already is, but you realize how
05:51:15.980
much that would change your life to marry someone that wealthy?
05:51:20.080
But he doesn't want to be with somebody who's just with him for money.
05:51:28.640
I'm not saying you have to date him solely for his money.
05:51:36.700
You can be stay at home, do whatever the fuck you want, afford your children.
05:51:41.680
I know you don't want kids, but you can afford your children the best of the best.
05:51:47.460
You don't have to send them to woke public school.
05:52:35.940
You guys, would you, so, you know, that's Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the, how's it
05:52:53.640
I think if a guy's confident and he's got personality, like, that trumps any good looks.
05:53:06.400
We have some tweets from Vesper, and that's going to probably be the second to last thing.
05:53:15.120
Women really want, went from liking grown-ass men like Channing Tatum to liking little boys
05:53:31.600
I just don't like men who look like little boys.
05:53:48.060
It's more about him being skinny, and he has, like, a baby face.
05:53:56.220
I think that women are starting to like men like that because of birth control.
05:54:11.480
People always talk about how terrible men are, but have y'all ever been in love with
05:54:39.720
All men deserve someone who's addicted to sex with them.
05:55:01.760
If I was with any of the guys that you showed us, though, I would be a feeder for them.
05:55:12.800
This man would tie my shoes and spoon feed me if I asked him to.
05:55:23.620
There was a trend on TikTok where girls were asking their boyfriends if they would peel an orange for them.
05:55:33.680
And I wouldn't date somebody who wouldn't do something like that for me.
05:55:39.360
Would it be okay if a man said that he wouldn't date you if he didn't feed grapes directly into his mouth while he was laying on his back?
05:56:00.120
Every time he disrespects you or lets you down, you'll be better within the week.
05:56:13.820
You've been dating him for a while, though, haven't you?
05:56:38.020
Do you think men are insecure if they care about a woman's body count, starting with you?
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Do you think men are insecure if they care about a woman's body count?
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My brain is kind of fried after filming for six hours.
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Yes, I do think body count matters when you're younger.
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If it's important to them, then they can figure it out.
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And then I feel like a guy knows when his girl's crazy about him, and I'm just crazy when I'm with somebody.
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Like, they know that nobody else matters to them, and I think that's how it should be, you know, if you're in a relationship.
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No, I don't think it's, like, an insecurity thing.
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No, I don't think it's insecurity, and, yeah, I think body count matters.
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So, you don't have to give the exact number, you know?
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If a man were to tell another man, if they asked you this question, if you were to respond
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And then, same thing to the girl in the glasses.
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Oh, we're waiting for our dear friend back there to, wait.
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Did you, you said you did adult content, right?
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Does anybody want to hit any topics before we wrap up?
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Uh, did you, uh, were you able to, you know, down, did you, are you 8 for 8 in Sunken Temple?
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If you're not, like, get your shit together, dude.
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But, uh, yeah, man, I was actually watching Ampy struggling with the shade of Oranicus the other day.
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I hope, uh, you're enjoying, what was it, phase 3 of Season of Discovery on World of Warcraft.
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Let me actually do a shout-out over there in Twitch.
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Are mods, uh, able to do shout-outs for Twitch?
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Uh, really quick, I'll just ask one World of Warcraft-related question for the panel, since
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I mean, actually, you guys just missed the part.
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We, we had the girls, I asked them if they would date Zack Asmongold.
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I asked if they'd date XQC, and I'd ask if they'd date Payo.
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So, and I know there's a little conflict there.
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Anyways, uh, World of Warcraft-related question.
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What is the best, like, let's say you're a guild leader, right?
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What's the best loot system for your World of Warcraft classic guild?
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Anyways, so, off the top of my head, here are the ones that I remember.
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Uh, EPGP, DKP, Loot Council, Suicide Kings, Soft Reserve, Hard Reserve.
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Um, so, going around the table, which, like, loot system do you set up for your hardcore
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So, look, here's the thing with Loot Council, right?
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But there can, there's a lot of corruption with Loot Council.
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You know, if the officers, depending on how they do the Loot Council, I was in a guild.
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I got screwed over for Perdition's Blade, right?
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Um, I was, I got screwed over on Perdition's Blade.
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And it was the Loot Council that fucked me over, dude.
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I'm a, yeah, I play dagger, I'm a dagger rogue.
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This fucking guy gets the fucking Perditions over me.
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You wouldn't know because you never played a rogue.
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You're like a, I feel like you're like a Rhett Paladin player.
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So, I mean, I did that amount of scenes, however.
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I did, I had a no list to begin with for probably the first maybe six months to a year, and then
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after that I graduated to a yes list, so I would only work with the same, like, eight
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Oh, I think where we left off, any final thoughts from anybody on anything?
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Yeah, I think, um, I think, uh, you know, women should bow.
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Oh, I thought you got a little excited about the bow thing.
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Yeah, you feel like a compass, but a good brand placement.
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Oh, do you guys, would you bow if you were dating a guy and he's like, I'd really appreciate
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I kind of like being submissive, but it's, it's different, you know?
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I mean, the Bible says to only bow to God, but I would do it in like a loving way to my
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If you read, for example, if you read, for example, when the, gosh, I'm so tired, Meshach,
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Radshach, and Abednego got thrown into the fire for bowing to the king and not to God.
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Sorry, no, because, sorry, because they refused to bow to the king because they said.
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Do you think that people bowed to King David and King Solomon and various kings in the Bible
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You shall not bow down to them or serve them, for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God,
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visiting the inequity of the fathers on the children to the third and the fourth generation
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I don't think, hold on, but I don't think that's related to just doing a bow to a person.
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Well, it's not related to bowing to a king either.
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It just depends on the context that you're taking it.
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I felt like you're taking it in a very degrading manner.
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Filipino culture, we actually take the hand and we place it to our forehead.
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Oh my God, every show somebody says about the fucking thing.
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Yes, I'll bow in the Filipino culture, placing the top of their hand to my forehead.
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You know what's amazing about this question that I don't really get?
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Like, how many of you get on your knees for your men but won't bow to them?
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If you're bowing as a sign of respect, like, that's fine.
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It's the context and the way that Brian painted the picture.
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Heck yeah, you know, women got to bow to their man.
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That's like, you know, very degrading and also like, you need to worship me.
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I don't give a fuck what kind of arrangement other guys have.
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Look, look, Andrew raises a very good point and I make this point too.
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Like, you'll have women who will be like, I would never bow for a man.
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But, like, you'll let him blast on your face on the first night dating.
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But, y'all, I just want an innocent bow and you're going to, I don't object to it.
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But, y'all, y'all letting dudes, like, blast on your face, but I can't, I can't ask for
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Look, I'm just saying, you know, when it comes to the bow thing, you guys want guys
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to get down on one knee, spend, what is it, three months' salary or some bullshit on a
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fucking diamond ring that costs a hundred bucks.
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What's the difference between curtsying for your husband and bowing to him?
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What evidence do you have that that's actually the case?
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Has there ever been a woman that has broken your heart?
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I feel like all this podcast is is like kind of projection-like.
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Well, I was just saying if it's all about projection, then is that what you're doing right now?
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No, I just really want this podcast to end, if I'm being honest.
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You're, you just, I was about to wrap up and then you'll, who hurt you, Brian?
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I almost want, I was actually about to wrap up, but now let's just go for a couple minutes.
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You guys just sit there in silence while me and Andrew talk about man shit.
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When you do go out, how late do you stay out typically?
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I like being in bed by 2, even on the weekends.
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She likes being in bed by 2 p.m., but she doesn't.
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You go to your YouTube studio, click the live, go to customization,
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That should redirect once we wrap up the stream.
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So Andrew, what are your thoughts on the ecclesiastical, you know, that thing?
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Well, it's going to take a while, Brian, to go through all of this.
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Well, the Orthodox have the best churches, of course.
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Well, it was a pleasure meeting all of you tonight.
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It is my job to give ideological pushback, and that's what I'm here to do.
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And I appreciated the conversation with everybody.
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And good luck to all of you, especially you with your survival career.
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I, you know, hope you don't get bit by a fucking snake or something.
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We'll just get through this pregnancy, and then we'll see how it goes.
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When I do the Twitch raid, I want to show who we're going to raid.
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If I hear you were being dickheads, I'm going to ban you from my chat on Twitch.
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It's complicated here with the rating and shit.
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You could have been anywhere in the world, but you're here with me.
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Thank you to everyone who superchats, donates, and supports the show.
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If you can make it to Santa Barbara, 07, in the chat.
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If you're still on YouTube, I'm going to send you to the...
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I could do a secondary raid for those of you who's still on Twitch.
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I'll just send you the remaining people on Twitch to...
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On YouTube, you're going to go over to Andrew's channel and you're going to call him a Pharisee.
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Do you guys want to debate on that really quick?
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Go give Andrew a subscription over there on YouTube.