Whatever Podcast - Andrew Wilson vs. 10 Feminists DEBATE! 3 RAGE QUITS？! SUPER FERAL CHAOS PANEL？! ｜ Dating Talk 283

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00:00:59.980 Welcome to the Whatever Dating Talk podcast where we try to make sense of the modern dating hellscape.

00:01:04.320 I'm your host, Brian Atlas.

00:01:05.560 We're just going to jump right in.

00:01:07.260 Why don't you introduce yourself?

00:01:08.280 Go ahead.

00:01:09.180 Hello.

00:01:09.800 Into the mic, please.

00:01:11.340 Sorry.

00:01:12.160 Hello.

00:01:12.940 My name is Mars.

00:01:15.060 I am 29 turning 30 this March.

00:01:19.100 Yay, Pisces season.

00:01:20.160 And I am from the East Coast, living in San Diego now for 10 years, though.

00:01:28.860 So, local.

00:01:30.720 And I've done some college.

00:01:33.740 My profession is I'm a business owner, body worker, and pro goddess and dominatrix.

00:01:43.900 Okay.

00:01:44.920 We will explore some of that stuff a little bit later on.

00:01:49.140 When you were in college, what were you studying?

00:01:50.760 Um, I was going the dietetics route, but I definitely should have just done psychology.

00:01:58.580 Maybe I would have gotten through.

00:02:00.000 Okay.

00:02:00.660 What about you?

00:02:02.280 Hi.

00:02:02.980 Um, my name is Ivy.

00:02:05.900 I'm 26 years old, and I'm from New Mexico.

00:02:10.780 I am currently in college for cybersecurity, and I'm a sex worker.

00:02:19.500 Uh, can you be more detailed?

00:02:21.080 I work for OnlyFans, Sex Panther, and Hidden.

00:02:26.380 Okay.

00:02:26.780 You do any stripping or dancing or anything like that?

00:02:30.540 So, I'm a content creator.

00:02:31.740 Um, I'm not Safer Work content creator, and I also do Safer Work content creation.

00:02:37.880 Um, I have danced before.

00:02:40.420 Okay.

00:02:41.220 Got it.

00:02:41.780 What about you?

00:02:42.480 I'm Mary Jane.

00:02:43.800 I'm 36 years old.

00:02:45.460 I'm from San Diego.

00:02:46.900 I am a dominatrix.

00:02:49.320 I also do, uh, fire flow, uh, artistry, and I'm a shabari artist, as well as a go-go dancer

00:02:57.200 and an OnlyFans model.

00:02:59.420 I have some college experience, but I didn't graduate.

00:03:03.040 Um, my major was going to be Arabic, and I wanted to be an interpreter.

00:03:07.280 Okay.

00:03:08.120 Uh, any particular reason for the Arabic, or?

00:03:11.800 I'm, uh, Lebanese.

00:03:13.560 Okay.

00:03:13.800 Um, but I was born and raised in San Diego, and I thought that I could be an interpreter

00:03:18.700 to help people in court, um, you know.

00:03:22.520 Are your parents Muslim?

00:03:23.380 Yes.

00:03:24.000 Are you Muslim?

00:03:24.840 I consider myself an ex-Muslim.

00:03:27.940 Uh, do you still have a relationship with your parents?

00:03:30.220 Yes.

00:03:31.540 Are they devout Muslim?

00:03:33.680 I would say my mom is the kind of Muslim that goes to church on Christmas, if that

00:03:39.840 makes sense.

00:03:40.740 What about your dad, though?

00:03:41.640 My dad is less religious.

00:03:44.080 It's interesting, actually.

00:03:45.540 He went from being somewhat religious to less religious, and now he's more religious in

00:03:51.760 his older age.

00:03:54.560 Okay.

00:03:55.380 Um, do they have an issue with your sex work? 0.87

00:03:58.180 My mother only knows that I'm a shabari artist.

00:04:00.620 She doesn't know that I'm a dominatrix, and she doesn't know that I have OnlyFans, and my

00:04:04.420 father thinks that I'm mostly just performing on stage as, like, a dancer.

00:04:09.440 I keep most of it private.

00:04:11.520 Okay.

00:04:12.220 All right.

00:04:12.760 What about you?

00:04:13.740 I'm Mia.

00:04:14.560 I'm from Kingston, Ontario, Canada, and I am 26, an exotic dancer and an OF model.

00:04:22.920 All right.

00:04:23.880 And, sir, did you say anything about college, or?

00:04:26.020 Um, no, I just took one credit in college.

00:04:28.360 When I finished my high school, it was, like, a dual credit, so it doesn't really count that

00:04:32.900 much.

00:04:33.400 Okay.

00:04:33.640 What about you?

00:04:34.580 Hi, I'm Kayla.

00:04:35.680 I'm 22, and I'm from Ohio, but I live in Los Angeles now, and I've been a content creator

00:04:41.360 since 2021, and I monetize on passes, and I dropped out of college.

00:04:47.620 Okay.

00:04:48.160 Sorry.

00:04:48.360 Could you repeat your age?

00:04:49.520 Yeah, I'm 22.

00:04:50.460 22.

00:04:51.600 Okay.

00:04:52.600 Have you ever done OnlyFans or anything like that?

00:04:55.540 Just passes.

00:04:56.140 What is passes?

00:04:57.060 Is that light?

00:04:57.260 It's, like, family-friendly OnlyFans.

00:05:00.180 What kind of content do you post on there?

00:05:02.320 I post bikini content.

00:05:05.760 Any partially nude content?

00:05:07.760 No.

00:05:08.240 So, not nude content.

00:05:09.920 Okay.

00:05:10.680 All right.

00:05:11.160 And are you a Christian?

00:05:13.780 I would say I'm more spiritual, but I use Christianity as, like, a moral guideline type of thing.

00:05:19.660 Because I noticed in some of your bios, you have scripture.

00:05:24.880 Yeah, I have, I think it's John 8, 32 in there.

00:05:28.700 Okay.

00:05:29.280 Gotcha.

00:05:29.560 Gotcha.

00:05:30.160 The passes content, is it, do you receive demographics?

00:05:36.380 Nathan, we do need, like, whoever's talking, if you can.

00:05:41.220 Okay.

00:05:41.800 So, your passes content, do you know the demographics of who buys your stuff?

00:05:50.740 I have no idea.

00:05:51.820 They don't have analytics or anything like that?

00:05:54.220 I haven't looked at them recently.

00:05:55.860 Do you mean, like, gender or age or location?

00:05:58.300 Well, it would encompass all that, but I'm primarily looking for gender.

00:06:02.360 Yeah, it's, like, probably 99% male.

00:06:04.820 Okay.

00:06:05.440 And is it, like, you're posting bikini content?

00:06:09.080 Is it suggestive?

00:06:11.540 Is it sexually suggestive, even though you're not nude?

00:06:14.400 It's not sexually suggestive.

00:06:16.020 I, the way that I describe it is kind of like my Instagram, but for my fans that want to

00:06:21.300 see more photos of me.

00:06:23.960 Can they pay to get certain poses? 0.99

00:06:26.540 Clicker.

00:06:26.960 Clicker.

00:06:27.460 No.

00:06:27.640 Not certain poses.

00:06:29.120 No.

00:06:29.620 Essentially.

00:06:30.260 Just kind of, like, more photos.

00:06:31.720 So there's no requests?

00:06:32.940 Nothing like that?

00:06:33.620 There are.

00:06:34.700 Do you take money for those requests?

00:06:37.060 Can you be more specific?

00:06:38.020 Like, if somebody said, I'll send you a thousand bucks if you, you know, do a bikini pic like

00:06:43.140 this, would you do that?

00:06:45.220 Yeah, if it, if it fell in the guidelines of what I'm comfortable with doing.

00:06:48.960 Okay.

00:06:51.360 Okay.

00:06:52.000 What about you?

00:06:53.000 Hi, I'm Sarah.

00:06:54.220 I'm 26 years old from Michigan.

00:06:57.100 I have my associate's degree in liberal arts and general education, and I work at Monster

00:07:04.120 Energy.

00:07:04.160 Sorry, repeat your age.

00:07:05.480 I'm sorry.

00:07:06.340 26.

00:07:06.680 Okay.

00:07:07.120 And I work at Monster Energy, giving out cans, putting cans in hands.

00:07:11.580 I also sing songwriter.

00:07:14.200 That's me.

00:07:15.940 Okay.

00:07:17.060 Did you say college?

00:07:18.540 Yeah, associate's, associate's degree.

00:07:20.800 In what?

00:07:22.040 Liberal arts and general education.

00:07:24.080 Okay.

00:07:24.480 Got it.

00:07:25.140 All right.

00:07:25.340 What about you?

00:07:26.280 Hi, I'm Anya Lacey.

00:07:27.720 I'm 20.

00:07:29.180 I do OnlyFans, and I did most, like, I did a decent amount of college, almost got my AA,

00:07:36.320 but dropped out right before then.

00:07:39.180 All right.

00:07:39.740 What about you?

00:07:40.640 My name is Juliana Sixto.

00:07:42.320 I am 32.

00:07:43.400 I'm based out of Miami, Florida, and I am the Spanish media director for the Lincoln Media

00:07:49.420 Foundation.

00:07:50.000 Prior to that, I was spokesperson for Turning Point Action.

00:07:53.300 I also have my own weekly news show in Spanish for Claro y Directo America, which is a right-wing

00:07:59.500 conservative YouTube channel.

00:08:01.960 I graduated from FIU, Florida International University, with a double bachelor's in international

00:08:07.720 relations and political science.

00:08:09.780 All right.

00:08:11.340 Welcome, welcome.

00:08:12.300 What about you?

00:08:13.800 My name is Courtney.

00:08:14.980 I'm 36.

00:08:16.400 I came from Mississippi, Biloxi, Mississippi.

00:08:20.580 I have a bachelor's of science in psychology with a minor in criminal justice, and my job

00:08:27.780 is a social worker.

00:08:29.940 You said a BS in psychology?

00:08:31.720 Yes, sir.

00:08:32.460 When did you attain?

00:08:33.360 Um, 2017, or excuse me, 2016 or 2020, I went to William Carey University.

00:08:41.320 Uh, it is, it is quite a long time ago, but just could you relate to me one thing that

00:08:47.840 you, since you do have a bachelor's in psychology, one thing that you could relate to us that you

00:08:54.340 learned?

00:08:54.880 The limbic system.

00:08:56.860 It, um, controls your, um, fight or flight, your parasympathetic and your sympathetic nervous

00:09:02.680 system, uh, things like anxiety, um, depression, stress, and it directly affects trauma inside

00:09:11.860 the brain.

00:09:12.780 And a fun fact, a, um, childhood trauma, PTSD brain and a combat trauma, PTSD, PTSD brain look

00:09:23.520 exactly the same in a brain scan.

00:09:25.920 Okay.

00:09:26.560 All right.

00:09:27.020 What about you?

00:09:28.040 Or, uh, let's go.

00:09:29.640 I'm sorry.

00:09:30.100 Yeah.

00:09:30.360 If you can pass it.

00:09:31.020 Hi, I'm Megan Loftus.

00:09:35.420 Um, can, uh, can you, you, can you scoot this way?

00:09:38.700 Just like, just lean a little bit.

00:09:40.200 Well, you don't have to do that much, but.

00:09:41.620 Thanks.

00:09:42.520 Hi, I'm Megan Loftus and, um, I'm from Chicago.

00:09:46.660 I'm a do standup comedian right now.

00:09:48.960 I'm a traditional daughter and I just hang out with my parents a lot and do standup.

00:09:53.940 And then, um, age?

00:09:55.320 I'm 28.

00:09:56.940 Um, and I have, I'm like one class away from getting my bachelor's in communication at Northeastern

00:10:04.720 Illinois University, which is a state school in Chicago.

00:10:09.080 Okay.

00:10:10.100 Do you know somebody named Kate Loftus?

00:10:13.540 There's a lot of, a lot of disease.

00:10:15.100 Okay.

00:10:15.760 All right.

00:10:16.600 Uh, next.

00:10:18.620 Hi, my name is Daniela.

00:10:19.920 I'm 21 years old.

00:10:21.520 I live in Tennessee and very explicitly not sexual at all, but I'm a massage therapist.

00:10:27.380 Um, and I also instruct in Pilates and do some social media, but it's nowhere in the, um, adult content field.

00:10:35.640 And you've never done that.

00:10:37.180 Is that correct?

00:10:37.600 No.

00:10:37.780 Okay.

00:10:38.600 Uh, you also, I looked at some of your content.

00:10:41.720 You, uh, you're, I don't know what the right term is.

00:10:45.420 You eat raw.

00:10:47.180 Is that the right way to categorize that?

00:10:49.120 Yes.

00:10:49.400 Yeah.

00:10:49.540 I follow a raw animal based diet.

00:10:51.280 So the majority of my food is from everything from raw meat, raw organs, raw eggs, raw dairy.

00:10:57.280 So you'll, you won't cook a steak.

00:10:59.700 You'll just, is it even a steak at that point?

00:11:02.380 It's just, is it still a steak if it's not cooked?

00:11:04.940 Yeah.

00:11:05.440 Cause I mean, you still go to the store and you say, I'll have that steak.

00:11:08.360 Okay.

00:11:08.880 So you, you'll eat a raw steak.

00:11:10.900 Yes.

00:11:11.240 Like steak tartare, for example.

00:11:12.860 Okay.

00:11:13.340 But, but you'll just have a, there'll be a slab of meat, like some, some center cut tenderloin

00:11:19.400 or something.

00:11:19.740 And you'll just eat it completely raw uncooked.

00:11:22.380 Is that correct?

00:11:22.660 Yeah.

00:11:23.060 You can go for it, including pork, including chicken.

00:11:26.100 Would you like cook it as a cheat meal?

00:11:29.040 Quicker, quicker.

00:11:29.920 I do have cooked meat on occasion.

00:11:33.820 Um, but again, raw animal based.

00:11:36.340 So the majority of meat I eat is raw.

00:11:37.740 Wait, can you clarify on the chicken real quick?

00:11:40.120 Yeah.

00:11:40.860 Um, so it's a very different kind of belief than what is generally it's based in terrain

00:11:47.380 theory.

00:11:48.040 Uh, so you actually want to increase salmonella exposure, which is something generally people

00:11:52.520 would be not too privy to.

00:11:54.400 So having everything from raw eggs to get more salmonella exposure and also raw chicken.

00:11:59.260 I was going to say, do you start with like raw eggs to build up that exposure?

00:12:02.820 I didn't need to, you know, I went from over a decade of vegetarianism and veganism and then

00:12:07.780 I went straight into the raw chicken and haven't looked back.

00:12:10.700 Have you gotten sick?

00:12:12.120 No, it's been three years and I have not gotten sick.

00:12:14.440 Congratulations.

00:12:15.100 Thank you.

00:12:15.860 Strong immune system.

00:12:17.000 Yeah.

00:12:17.360 So you'll, but you'll just leave meat out overnight too, right?

00:12:21.080 Yes.

00:12:21.500 Yeah.

00:12:21.660 There's different kinds of fermented meat that's called high meat.

00:12:24.140 So you can ferment it up to weeks and eat it.

00:12:26.260 Same with eggs, same with milk, same, you know, raw dairy.

00:12:29.240 You can ferment a lot.

00:12:30.780 Um, but it is good if you leave it out overnight cause it gets more bacterial exposure.

00:12:34.580 What about parasites?

00:12:36.680 Yeah, exactly.

00:12:37.600 What about parasites?

00:12:38.640 So, um, again, within terrain theory, this is completely different than germ theory, which

00:12:44.220 is the standard narrative.

00:12:46.080 Um, and the idea is that parasites are not necessarily a negative.

00:12:51.660 There's a lot of benefits that you can have to them.

00:12:54.720 Um, and parasites being used as beneficial cause they're actually able to eat dead tissue

00:12:59.080 within the intestines.

00:13:01.020 Some people detox, like go through a parasite detox using wormwood specifically not to have

00:13:08.460 any kind of parasites within them.

00:13:09.960 So I haven't heard your theory, but I'm willing to learn about different, different things.

00:13:14.780 I mean, I'm surprised you're here.

00:13:16.640 So that's a good thing, right?

00:13:17.940 Yeah.

00:13:18.440 I mean, I'm here.

00:13:19.240 I'm still kicking.

00:13:20.280 Um, I anticipate to continue kicking.

00:13:22.820 Um, but I can get more into that later and into the history of it and to kind of how I

00:13:26.460 got into that way of eating.

00:13:28.300 But like if somebody just jumped into it, like could a normal person just eat with you in

00:13:33.460 the sense that like you've maybe built up a tolerance to the salmonella or whatever 0.98

00:13:39.000 the fuck. 0.98

00:13:39.340 Like, could, could I just join you for the dinner you eat or would it have to be like 1.00

00:13:45.640 a buildup?

00:13:46.460 No, normal people join me all the time.

00:13:48.400 I mean, I have friends that come over and they try it.

00:13:50.700 I had a right meat eating party one time where I prepared like a bunch of chicken and purposefully

00:13:55.640 invited friends who had never tried it before.

00:13:57.860 They're like, fine.

00:13:58.820 Okay.

00:13:59.200 I'll try a little bit.

00:14:00.060 And they tried and they didn't get sick and they felt fine and they felt happy.

00:14:03.240 Do you at least season things in like lime to kill off bacteria?

00:14:06.760 Because that's a thing that you do with ceviche, which is Peruvian food, which you cook the

00:14:12.460 fish, but with a lime sauce.

00:14:14.380 So it kills off the bacteria.

00:14:15.760 Do you do any of that?

00:14:17.360 I mean, sometimes like just for fun, but I don't make a practice of it.

00:14:22.180 And you know, same as applicable to pork.

00:14:24.440 Got it.

00:14:25.140 Do you only eat raw food?

00:14:27.180 No, it's, it's raw animal based.

00:14:28.960 So that's the majority of my food, but I'm not, I would say insanely.

00:14:33.240 I'm religious about it, you know, on, on special occasions, for example, you know, I have some

00:14:37.600 bread.

00:14:38.520 So, but I mean, if you're going to eat meat, is it always raw?

00:14:43.620 I'd say about 90% of the time.

00:14:45.760 Okay.

00:14:47.660 Interesting.

00:14:48.600 Okay.

00:14:50.420 Andrew, what about you?

00:14:52.260 Yeah.

00:14:52.660 My name is Andrew Wilson.

00:14:54.500 I'm also an only fans.

00:14:55.960 I have the largest female clientele in the United States. 1.00

00:14:59.020 That's true.

00:14:59.640 You can find me on dad bod.com.

00:15:01.740 So that's, uh, that's who I am.

00:15:04.800 That's what I do.

00:15:10.000 Uh, yeah, I also sell, I, uh, I sell feed pics on feedfinder.com.

00:15:16.020 Yeah.

00:15:16.880 My name is Andrew Wilson, the host of the crucible.

00:15:20.000 Um, it's a very large political debate channel on YouTube.

00:15:23.800 I'm a political analyst, a political satirist, and I have conversations and debates with

00:15:28.660 people from all over the world.

00:15:30.480 All right.

00:15:31.420 Uh, welcome everybody.

00:15:33.500 And, uh, we do have, uh, the, the lovely Chloe, yummy, Chloe, yummy joining us. 0.99

00:15:40.240 Uh, she, I overbooked. 0.93

00:15:43.080 So really quick, you guys are wondering why, look at how many fucking people are at the 0.99

00:15:46.000 table, right? 0.98

00:15:46.840 Uh, I overbooked.

00:15:47.940 That's why it took us a little longer to get set up.

00:15:50.140 So sorry for the delay with the start time there, everybody.

00:15:53.380 But, uh, yeah, we are, we are quiet.

00:15:56.620 It's 14 people.

00:15:57.560 I think this is the most overbooked I've ever done it.

00:16:00.300 Uh, usually I overbook because predictably the day before the day of even days leading

00:16:05.180 up to the show, people invariably cancel or they no show, but, uh, I, I don't know if

00:16:11.820 I want to say fortunately or unfortunately, everyone was a very reliable, uh, so they all

00:16:17.140 showed up.

00:16:18.160 So, uh, for usually we want people to be reliable, but, um, and this case we did overbook things.

00:16:26.000 So, uh, Chloe, yummy is in the back.

00:16:28.500 She's just, uh, we're always setting precedents on this show, Brian, anytime, every time, every

00:16:33.540 time.

00:16:33.740 So overbooked, overbooked, um, but, uh, some people are going to tag in, tag out and, uh,

00:16:40.100 yeah, but, uh, we're going to go around the table once more.

00:16:43.340 What is everybody's relationship status?

00:16:47.120 And if you're single, how long you've been single and longest relationship starting with

00:16:50.860 you?

00:16:52.140 Okay.

00:16:53.920 So I am single as of like six, seven months ago, but I definitely am not alone.

00:17:03.740 What does that mean?

00:17:06.540 It means that I'm not in a traditional relationship, but I do have men and yeah, I mean, I guess

00:17:16.780 we're talking about men, um, just hookups or something, just hooking up with different

00:17:20.980 guys.

00:17:21.260 It's more than that though.

00:17:23.300 They're somewhat of companion friends.

00:17:28.200 It's a dynamic, but I'm, I'm single.

00:17:31.100 I'm free.

00:17:31.600 They're free.

00:17:32.640 Is it like sugar daddies?

00:17:34.800 I wish.

00:17:36.540 Situationships?

00:17:37.340 Yeah.

00:17:37.580 Can you, can you just take a second?

00:17:39.700 I feel like there's a little dynamic.

00:17:40.780 Yeah.

00:17:41.040 So because of the work I do and the place I am in my life, I have, I've been wanting

00:17:48.140 to try polyamory for a while and I kept letting men, uh, change my mind and tie me down.

00:17:56.280 And after my last breakup, I decided, I hate it when they, what was that? 1.00

00:18:00.980 Oh, I hate it when those bastards. 1.00

00:18:02.220 So controlling. 1.00

00:18:03.500 Yeah.

00:18:03.900 They just want to own me.

00:18:04.960 It's crazy.

00:18:06.360 So, so yeah, I decided though, this time around, I'm sticking to my guns and I am only accepting 0.98

00:18:15.520 people, men or women, mostly men, I'm predominantly straight, a little flexible, but it's harder

00:18:26.000 to find that romantically.

00:18:27.480 Um, I find, so yeah, I, I have some companions that again, I am a dom, so they serve me real

00:18:36.560 quick for me when you said it's hard to find that sort of flexibility.

00:18:40.200 You mean it's hard to find men who will share?

00:18:42.380 Oh no, I mean, I mean finding women companions.

00:18:46.140 Oh yeah.

00:18:46.740 Okay.

00:18:47.340 That aren't my friends.

00:18:48.620 Okay.

00:18:49.740 Um, so because I am a dominant female and I have locked in and been portraying that I

00:18:58.800 did initially start out as a submissive in this world.

00:19:02.240 I haven't always portrayed this, but I have always had that energy within me.

00:19:06.660 So, um, I have men that serve me, they're my friends, they, some of them have the honor

00:19:17.640 of sexual relations with me and they're very honored, very, very lucky, very honored, very

00:19:28.020 grateful and yeah, I don't know.

00:19:34.040 That's, that's what they do.

00:19:34.980 They're, they're my homies.

00:19:36.900 They change my life for the better. 0.98

00:19:38.960 Are you honored to be in a sexual relationship with them?

00:19:43.300 Am I honored?

00:19:44.840 Well, if they're honored, shouldn't this be a bit symmetrical?

00:19:48.040 I can be honored.

00:19:49.140 I can, I feel honored for the other things that I get in the relationship.

00:19:55.500 I can't exactly say I'm honored by what they're giving me sexually, but you know, we all have

00:20:01.240 our different strengths and weaknesses and things that we really appreciate out of someone

00:20:06.300 needs that we need fulfilled certain needs.

00:20:09.100 We don't need fulfilled as aggressively.

00:20:13.360 I notice that you're wearing some crystals this evening.

00:20:17.260 Yes.

00:20:17.820 You like crystals.

00:20:18.460 I enjoy crystals.

00:20:20.400 Yeah.

00:20:20.700 This is a Labradorite.

00:20:21.900 This is definitely a man-made cutesy little, I don't know.

00:20:26.360 It could be a quartz.

00:20:26.780 What's your favorite, what's your favorite color crystal?

00:20:29.680 My favorite color crystal.

00:20:31.900 I don't, I wouldn't say I have a favorite color crystal, maybe green.

00:20:36.060 Green's my favorite color.

00:20:37.580 Labradorite's really beautiful because it's got lots of green and blue tones and it's kind

00:20:42.680 of iridescent.

00:20:44.240 Does that go with the goddess stuff?

00:20:47.320 I think.

00:20:48.180 I think crystals are very beautiful and they, they go with that and much more.

00:20:55.920 I mean, they have many purposes to them other than their beauty.

00:20:58.960 Okay.

00:20:59.400 So.

00:20:59.980 I think do men collect crystals?

00:21:01.420 Crystals, like men collect cards, right? 0.98

00:21:03.740 Something like that.

00:21:04.900 Go ahead.

00:21:05.640 Crystals are a gift from God.

00:21:09.500 I am in a monogamous relationship.

00:21:13.760 So I've been with him less than a year now.

00:21:17.900 But.

00:21:18.220 What was the longest relationship you've ever had?

00:21:21.120 The longest relationship that I've ever had was probably about three years.

00:21:25.780 Okay.

00:21:27.020 Okay.

00:21:27.500 What about you?

00:21:29.380 Hi.

00:21:29.840 What about you?

00:21:31.040 I am currently single.

00:21:33.240 I've been single for a year.

00:21:35.080 I'm polyamorous. 0.98

00:21:36.320 Um, I am currently seeing someone and I also have a sex slave. 0.99

00:21:43.280 Okay. 0.96

00:21:44.060 Uh, when you say you're poly, so you're, are you, uh, dating multiple people?

00:21:49.980 Yes.

00:21:50.480 So with polyamory, um, even when I'm single and I'm not, uh, in a relationship, I still

00:21:57.020 consider myself polyamorous.

00:21:58.560 And then if I'm in a relationship, I'm still open to more than one relationship.

00:22:02.620 And I have had, um, two partners at once.

00:22:06.180 You said you're dominatrix, right? 0.90

00:22:08.420 Is your sex slave a paying client then? 0.89

00:22:11.320 No, actually, uh, we started out as just friends, became friends with benefits. 0.99

00:22:15.240 And then I asked him if he would be interested in being my sex slave, which actually helps 0.98

00:22:19.480 me with my work. 0.94

00:22:20.480 Doesn't that kind of like destroy the whole idea though? 0.96

00:22:24.000 Like if you're going to have a sex slave, isn't it not supposed to be consensual?

00:22:27.660 Isn't that where the, where like the real slave driver energy is right? 0.94

00:22:31.420 Is like, they don't want that.

00:22:33.000 That's what makes them a slave. 0.99

00:22:34.280 I think it depends on the submissive because, uh, and the dominant, uh, because for me, he's

00:22:42.440 giving me consent within that amount of time to have my way with him.

00:22:47.280 So who's really in charge?

00:22:49.120 The submissive.

00:22:50.480 Ultimately, the submissive has all the power. 0.99

00:22:52.440 So then you're the, so then you're the submissive. 0.81

00:22:54.220 Not exactly because I'm leading the scene, but the submissive has the, uh, right and the 1.00

00:23:01.120 opportunity to end the scene at whatever time.

00:23:03.780 So I'm, I like to describe it like this.

00:23:06.820 When I negotiate with someone and I start to get consent from them, it's like they're

00:23:11.060 drawing an outline of a, of a book, like a coloring book.

00:23:14.280 Yeah.

00:23:14.540 And then they're giving me the colors that I'm allowed to use.

00:23:17.320 And then I'm coloring in the page.

00:23:19.480 And that's how we create the experience together.

00:23:22.500 Okay.

00:23:24.680 Uh, I'm single and my longest relationship has, was probably like, I don't know.

00:23:31.240 He would probably call it like three years, but reality, like in reality, it was like nine

00:23:35.220 months because he wasn't really just dating me.

00:23:38.480 So, yeah, but you, you were with him for three years.

00:23:44.280 Yeah.

00:23:44.720 On and off.

00:23:45.500 But I think it was a lot of like just me being the one dating and he was just doing what I

00:23:50.440 think he was telling people we weren't dating, but had a lot of messy relationships.

00:23:56.160 So it was on, on and off.

00:23:58.740 Yeah.

00:23:59.400 I would, I mean, that's probably the best.

00:24:00.280 Were you seeing other guys?

00:24:01.440 I was not, but he was seeing other girls.

00:24:04.060 But you said there were off periods during those off periods.

00:24:07.140 Like in his eyes, in his eyes, but in my, like, I mean, like, like it was like three

00:24:12.660 years, but I mean, like, I don't think for him, it was like three years.

00:24:16.000 So you were completely exclusive to him for the entire duration of the three years.

00:24:20.720 How long you been single?

00:24:22.260 Um, maybe like, uh, two, eight, two and a half years or so, I'd say.

00:24:28.920 Uh, two and a half years.

00:24:30.980 Two and a half years.

00:24:31.920 Okay.

00:24:33.760 What about you?

00:24:34.440 Um, I would like to say I'm in a relationship, but technically we broke up in the beginning

00:24:39.480 of this year.

00:24:40.800 Um, so it's kind of complicated, but my longest relationship was almost five years.

00:24:47.100 Is that the currently complicated one?

00:24:50.760 No, no.

00:24:51.940 I'm a little confused.

00:24:52.640 So you'd, you'd like to say that you're in a relationship?

00:24:57.240 Yeah.

00:24:57.720 Like it's a complicated, we're technically not together though.

00:25:01.540 Um, are you still smashing?

00:25:04.160 We are, I mean, right.

00:25:07.220 Isn't that usually how that goes?

00:25:08.960 We still hang out and we're on good terms.

00:25:13.280 But wait, hold on.

00:25:14.780 Uh, you, so you, uh, I'm a bit confused.

00:25:25.740 When's the last time you saw the guy?

00:25:29.100 Like a couple of days ago.

00:25:31.220 Do you guys hook up?

00:25:34.060 That's a yes.

00:25:34.980 Yeah.

00:25:36.940 Uh, did, at any, wait, is it the five-year guy or this is a different guy?

00:25:40.960 No, the five-year was, um, when I was like a little.

00:25:43.760 Okay.

00:25:44.040 But the current guy where it's complicated, that's been one year.

00:25:46.980 Have you, uh, at any point, have you called each other boyfriend, girlfriend?

00:25:52.940 Are you saying with this last guy?

00:25:54.280 The current complicated guy.

00:25:56.300 Yeah, so the current complicated situation, um, I've known him for about two years.

00:26:00.160 And yeah, we were dating, but we broke up in the beginning of this year.

00:26:04.740 Okay.

00:26:05.420 Dating, but broke up at the beginning.

00:26:07.280 So in January, who broke up with who?

00:26:09.540 Um, more so him.

00:26:11.040 It was kind of mutual though.

00:26:12.520 Mutual understanding.

00:26:15.500 But more so him?

00:26:16.700 Yeah.

00:26:17.880 Doesn't sound that mutual.

00:26:21.260 Okay.

00:26:22.360 No. 1.00

00:26:22.620 He's still down to fuck though. 1.00

00:26:24.280 Love that. 1.00

00:26:27.140 Okay.

00:26:28.060 Um, sorry guys, I'm getting distractions behind the scenes here.

00:26:32.840 Um, okay, so you, uh, are you dating other men?

00:26:43.560 No.

00:26:44.800 Is he dating other women?

00:26:46.380 I don't know what he's doing.

00:26:48.360 Okay.

00:26:49.280 If you had a guess.

00:26:50.720 I'm not sure. 1.00

00:26:53.380 Are you just letting him like fuck basically? 0.99

00:26:56.680 I just like, I'm at a point where when I'm in a relationship, like I basically train myself 1.00

00:27:02.520 to only be able to be attracted or interested in one person.

00:27:06.280 Um, but if he's not, if you're not sure that he's loyal to you and you're like in this ambiguous, unknown space of, I would like him, but I don't know if he likes me.

00:27:17.280 I don't know if he's dating me.

00:27:18.180 Why do you do that to yourself?

00:27:20.240 Are you just like weaning off?

00:27:22.300 Yeah.

00:27:22.620 It's like a complicated situation.

00:27:25.700 Was he mad?

00:27:26.660 We wish you the best.

00:27:27.900 Yeah.

00:27:28.120 Was he mad about the content stuff?

00:27:30.440 No.

00:27:30.920 No?

00:27:31.340 No.

00:27:31.740 So it had, it was other contributing factors.

00:27:34.000 Yeah.

00:27:34.240 It was a bunch of different things.

00:27:36.540 Gotcha.

00:27:36.800 Uh, okay.

00:27:40.240 Um, I'm just confused. 0.99

00:27:43.140 Usually when you break up with somebody, it's like you don't continue fucking. 0.99

00:27:48.640 Yeah. 0.99

00:27:48.980 It's over.

00:27:49.960 But like, I just don't see the benefit of going around and saying I'm single.

00:27:54.700 What do you mean?

00:27:55.340 Even though he's not with you anymore.

00:27:56.960 Correct.

00:27:57.540 He's a good guy.

00:27:58.860 Well, it's not just that.

00:28:01.260 I mean, you're, you guys are continuing to, uh, sleep together.

00:28:06.800 Yeah.

00:28:06.960 Do you guys live together?

00:28:08.180 No.

00:28:08.820 Not currently.

00:28:09.400 Doesn't that hurt your heart?

00:28:11.760 No.

00:28:12.200 Oh my God.

00:28:12.840 Can you stop, Chloe?

00:28:13.780 Stop distracting my producer, please.

00:28:15.600 If you're going to leave, just leave.

00:28:18.060 What's the deal?

00:28:20.420 What's the deal?

00:28:24.020 I'm just like nervous.

00:28:30.140 Okay.

00:28:31.540 We got a show to run, Chloe.

00:28:33.120 What do you want to do?

00:28:34.920 You need to make a decision.

00:28:36.120 It's either stay or go.

00:28:37.960 I was trying to leave.

00:28:40.540 We're not holding you captive.

00:28:42.560 The door is that way.

00:28:45.220 Nathan, please behind her.

00:28:49.720 You can take that seat then, I guess.

00:28:51.800 All right.

00:28:52.120 What about you?

00:28:53.140 I'm single.

00:28:54.540 I've been single for like five, six years since 2020.

00:28:58.940 Um, my longest relationship was two years.

00:29:04.080 Okay.

00:29:05.300 Uh, what about you?

00:29:07.980 Uh, single for, I think like two, two and a half years.

00:29:11.020 Um, longest relationship was between two to three years, somewhere around there.

00:29:15.200 All right.

00:29:16.440 What about you?

00:29:17.080 I am happily in a relationship with a fantastic man.

00:29:20.860 He's my boyfriend.

00:29:21.760 For how long?

00:29:22.920 Um, for about, say, half a year now.

00:29:25.240 Uh, do you have, uh, were you, were you previously married?

00:29:31.680 Yes.

00:29:32.520 How long were you married for?

00:29:33.660 Six years.

00:29:35.060 Six years.

00:29:35.900 Okay.

00:29:36.500 Uh, who initiated the divorce? 0.83

00:29:38.400 It was, again, mutual.

00:29:39.680 It was a no-fault divorce, so no lawyers involved, and both people at the courthouse signing

00:29:44.780 together, so very clean, and, uh, we wished each other the best, so I think it's the cleanest

00:29:51.240 divorce in history, so.

00:29:54.460 Okay.

00:29:55.060 Who, doesn't someone typically have to file the paperwork, though?

00:29:58.720 In Florida, you can just go to the office together and sign paperwork together.

00:30:05.380 Yeah.

00:30:05.980 Okay.

00:30:06.180 I get $407, and that is it, so.

00:30:09.900 Okay.

00:30:10.400 Uh, did, did he have to pay you alimony?

00:30:12.940 Nope.

00:30:13.520 Did you have to pay him alimony?

00:30:14.760 Nope.

00:30:15.500 Okay.

00:30:15.980 All right.

00:30:16.300 Sounds pretty clean, then.

00:30:17.340 Mm-hmm.

00:30:17.520 What about you?

00:30:18.040 Next?

00:30:19.520 Um, I am currently married.

00:30:21.960 I've been married for a while.

00:30:23.500 Um.

00:30:24.260 How long?

00:30:25.520 We've been together, total, for six years in June, and, um, previously, I had a, I have

00:30:34.380 an ex-husband.

00:30:34.980 We were together for 13 years total.

00:30:37.640 We were married for nine.

00:30:40.520 Okay.

00:30:41.340 Um, you have an ex-husband, you said?

00:30:44.020 Yes, sir.

00:30:44.600 So you've been married twice, is that correct?

00:30:46.760 This, yes, this is my second marriage.

00:30:48.160 Second marriage, okay. 0.68

00:30:48.940 Who initiated the, uh, divorce for the first marriage?

00:30:52.620 Um, I did.

00:30:55.500 Um, it was, um, an unhealthy situation, I'll just say that.

00:31:03.280 Um, and it was, uh, mainly for my safety.

00:31:08.160 So, and there was other factors.

00:31:10.040 Any kids?

00:31:11.120 Uh, no, sir.

00:31:12.840 Uh, your ex-husband, did he pay you alimony?

00:31:16.700 No, sir.

00:31:17.480 No alimony?

00:31:18.020 Yes, sir.

00:31:18.840 Okay.

00:31:19.300 What about you?

00:31:20.860 I am single, uh, my longest relationship was two and a half years, um, and, uh, yeah,

00:31:28.380 I was single for a little while, and then very briefly saw a guy, and that ended about

00:31:34.340 two weeks ago.

00:31:35.860 Oh, two weeks ago.

00:31:36.860 Okay.

00:31:37.140 Yeah, it lasted a total of four days, so.

00:31:39.760 Four days.

00:31:40.000 I think one of the shorter ones.

00:31:41.180 Who broke up with who?

00:31:42.880 I did.

00:31:43.720 And unfortunately, um, I think we wanted different things.

00:31:50.620 I don't think he was honest about all of his intentions in the interaction.

00:31:55.740 Yeah.

00:31:56.160 Uh, what do you mean?

00:31:57.060 Um, he wanted more sexually than I wanted to provide.

00:32:05.420 How so?

00:32:08.580 Just, I didn't want to do the things that he wanted to do.

00:32:13.240 Um, and he, yeah.

00:32:17.700 Kind of want you to spill the tea.

00:32:20.400 Well, so, um, there, it was, like, specific sex acts that you were uncomfortable with.

00:32:26.220 Is that a fair way to categorize it?

00:32:28.280 Yeah.

00:32:28.640 I mean, I didn't want to do any of those kind of acts, especially, like, we had been together

00:32:33.420 such a short period of time.

00:32:35.400 Um, but he, you know, wanted something else.

00:32:38.980 And then when I found that out, I was like, okay, well, you know, I'm not really interested

00:32:42.960 in that department then.

00:32:44.240 So, it wasn't, it wasn't a hesitation on your part to, to have sex, but it was the specific,

00:32:51.260 perhaps, uh, specific acts that you were just not comfortable with.

00:32:56.140 Is that?

00:32:56.520 No.

00:32:56.760 I, I mean, I didn't want to have sex, period. 0.59

00:32:58.540 Oh, period. 0.53

00:32:59.500 Mm-hmm.

00:32:59.680 Okay.

00:33:00.000 So, he wanted to have, maybe it's more simple than that. 0.78

00:33:02.660 He wanted to have sex and you didn't. 0.98

00:33:05.480 Yeah.

00:33:05.740 And just two, like, more sexual things that I just, you know, do not want to do so early

00:33:11.280 into a relationship. 0.99

00:33:13.060 Not an anal girl. 1.00

00:33:16.040 I, you know, one could say that. 0.99

00:33:18.160 Yeah.

00:33:18.580 I get it.

00:33:19.460 You, uh, so how did you meet him?

00:33:23.120 Uh, we originally met online.

00:33:26.340 Dating out?

00:33:27.060 No.

00:33:27.760 Um, from what I do, social media, he had messaged me and we just talked and got to know each other.

00:33:33.880 Were you guys in, like, the same city or was it, like, long, long distance or?

00:33:37.860 No.

00:33:38.100 And we were, we were friends for quite a while.

00:33:40.920 Um, there wasn't anything.

00:33:41.740 Okay.

00:33:42.160 So, how long did you know him?

00:33:44.560 Um, I'd say probably about nine months or so.

00:33:48.360 Nine months.

00:33:49.240 Okay.

00:33:49.560 Before then, we started.

00:33:50.420 But then you only, there was only romantic component for four days.

00:33:55.540 Is that fair to say?

00:33:56.880 Yes.

00:33:57.680 Okay.

00:33:57.940 So, together, so, like, you went on one date?

00:34:03.720 I'm just a bit confused.

00:34:04.800 No, no.

00:34:05.240 We, we had gone on, on four dates, um.

00:34:07.720 Each day?

00:34:08.660 Yes.

00:34:09.020 Yeah.

00:34:09.200 We, we hung out for four days straight and I was like, wow, this is so awesome.

00:34:12.340 And then I was like, oh.

00:34:13.760 Okay.

00:34:14.420 I see.

00:34:14.920 Maybe it does not.

00:34:16.480 Okay.

00:34:16.680 Yeah.

00:34:17.340 No, no, no.

00:34:17.920 He actually, he ate raw meat too.

00:34:19.260 So, it wasn't, it wasn't about the raw meat.

00:34:20.920 Could you, yeah, could you, yeah, could you date a guy who wasn't quite, uh, on your level

00:34:27.720 with the diet, I guess?

00:34:29.860 Um, I mean, there's, like, variants to it, but I think it makes most sense to date somebody

00:34:35.360 who has a similar lifestyle.

00:34:37.080 Um, you know, maybe they don't need to eat in the exact same way that I do, but I think

00:34:41.040 it, for compatibility, it wouldn't be similar.

00:34:41.940 Well, how about this?

00:34:42.880 Uh, no raw food, but they were carnivore.

00:34:45.900 So, cooked eggs, cooked meat, cooked other stuff.

00:34:51.780 That just wouldn't make very much sense to me.

00:34:53.620 I guess if they were able, they were willing to convert, but if you're already on, like,

00:34:57.020 the carnivore train, why wouldn't you want to eat it raw?

00:34:59.820 Uh, for health.

00:35:01.000 That's why.

00:35:02.160 Seasoning.

00:35:02.880 Who said that you can't season?

00:35:04.500 And a good seer.

00:35:05.960 I do have a question.

00:35:07.280 I want to know where you found another person that also eats raw meat.

00:35:11.840 Oh, man.

00:35:12.440 There are so many of them.

00:35:13.680 Um, they, they are hiding out there.

00:35:16.020 There's actually quite a few.

00:35:17.100 I got introduced to it all from three women that I knew.

00:35:21.040 Um, and there was a pretty decent primal community in where I was living.

00:35:24.240 It's called the Primal Diet.

00:35:25.400 And there's a decently large community for it online as well.

00:35:28.820 Okay.

00:35:29.600 So.

00:35:30.400 Is that a good place to find each other and maybe, like, date other people that only eat

00:35:34.260 raw food?

00:35:35.780 I mean, maybe, but there's a lot of interesting figures in that community that, you know.

00:35:41.460 I mean, it's people eating raw chicken.

00:35:43.540 I don't know.

00:35:43.620 Some of them are, are cool.

00:35:45.180 And then some of them, I think, are a little dove off the deep end.

00:35:48.780 What is the, what's, I'm curious, genuinely.

00:35:51.400 What is the deep end of not cooking your food and just eating, like, raw everything?

00:35:56.040 There's this one guy who, um, his name is Gotis online.

00:35:59.300 And he's done a lot of activism, some might say, to promote the diet.

00:36:02.880 But he also has wild takes, like, throwing acid on women.

00:36:07.560 So that would be the, um, the rabbit hole.

00:36:11.120 What about, like, liver king?

00:36:13.100 What kind of acid?

00:36:13.820 He'll cook women but not meat. 0.96

00:36:14.440 Yeah, what kind of acid, uh, acid that will burn them.

00:36:17.380 So he's in jail?

00:36:19.340 Uh, no, he's on the run.

00:36:21.380 So, and he's an influencer at the same time, or?

00:36:24.280 I don't, he's not presently making videos, but he is probably the person with the largest

00:36:28.840 online following for the raw meat community. 0.72

00:36:31.180 Do you think the parasites got to his head? 0.72

00:36:33.280 I was thinking, yeah. 0.74

00:36:34.600 Yeah.

00:36:34.920 I think he was just, some people are just born with something inside of them.

00:36:42.960 Or they ate it.

00:36:44.000 Or, or they, I mean, you could say that too, but.

00:36:46.920 Yeah.

00:36:47.300 I don't think that was necessarily a contributor.

00:36:49.420 There's a lot of people who are part of the raw community, who have been part of it for

00:36:52.540 decades, who are normal, practical, happy, healthy people.

00:36:56.480 I would argue the more famous one is, like, liver king, right?

00:37:01.860 Yeah.

00:37:02.180 I mean, perhaps.

00:37:02.900 I feel like everyone's heard of liver king.

00:37:04.640 Yeah.

00:37:05.300 Yeah.

00:37:05.780 But he's not necessarily. 0.97

00:37:06.640 But he's also psycho. 0.53

00:37:08.240 I've heard of that too. 0.72

00:37:08.980 Yeah.

00:37:09.000 In the primal community, I would say, because he's, I mean, there's a whole thing with steroids

00:37:13.800 and whatnot, and generally the primal community has a focus on naturalism.

00:37:17.760 So staying away from those kinds of things.

00:37:19.860 But, I mean, everything's intermeshed nowadays.

00:37:21.840 So I guess liver king could be the, the biggest guy, but.

00:37:25.860 Wait, so you would not, whoever you're going to date, they got it.

00:37:32.060 They have to get on your page diet wise.

00:37:34.540 Is that correct?

00:37:36.480 Yeah.

00:37:36.820 I mean, ideally they would already be there.

00:37:38.840 I don't want to, like, force somebody to do something they're not comfortable with.

00:37:42.480 But my last relationship, which was, you know, the longest relationship, not the four days

00:37:46.300 one, he very much did not eat raw meat.

00:37:50.060 And throughout the relationship, I did.

00:37:53.680 But it makes sense to probably tell somebody, like, hey, by the way, first thing you should

00:37:58.080 know about me before we even go on a date is I eat everything raw.

00:38:02.120 And if you don't eat things raw, then this isn't going to work out.

00:38:06.180 Is that what you usually do or?

00:38:08.400 I don't know.

00:38:09.020 I mean, I'm not very experienced with dating, to be frank.

00:38:11.760 So I'm not really like, okay, full disclosure, you know.

00:38:14.740 If you went to a restaurant and they, like, you would tell them not to cook your food?

00:38:19.800 Yeah, there's a lot of things you can order, like steak tartare, for example, that's pretty

00:38:23.280 popular.

00:38:24.020 And I'm also very specific about the kind of meat I do eat.

00:38:26.780 I don't want to eat anything that was factory farmed.

00:38:28.980 So that limits the kinds of restaurants you can go to.

00:38:31.640 Generally, those are going to be more higher end farm to table, which almost always

00:38:35.320 have a raw dish available.

00:38:36.700 They'll know before they pick the restaurant.

00:38:38.720 Yeah, they'll know.

00:38:39.720 So a couple things here on this, a couple things here on the whole raw situation.

00:38:46.740 Really quick, though, you said you don't have much dating experience.

00:38:49.480 Can you clarify what you mean by that?

00:38:51.620 I just haven't gone on many dates.

00:38:54.320 Well, have you been, well.

00:38:55.680 I suppose.

00:38:56.360 I mean, I have a dating experience in the sense that.

00:38:58.600 Have you had relationships?

00:39:00.100 Yes, I said I had the relationship for two and a half years.

00:39:03.200 But is that your only relationship that you've had?

00:39:05.320 No, I've had two relationships.

00:39:08.940 And the first one was a year and a half.

00:39:11.220 Speak straight into the mic.

00:39:12.060 Yeah, the first one was a year and a half.

00:39:13.820 And then the next one was two and a half years.

00:39:15.800 So I've had two relationships.

00:39:16.760 I see.

00:39:17.740 Well, with the raw stuff, I mean, this is like 0.00001% of the population that either already

00:39:27.280 does this or would be willing to have this kind of diet.

00:39:30.400 But from a dating perspective, I think it's going to close a lot of doors, not to say

00:39:36.120 that it's impossible.

00:39:37.260 There's obviously an existing community, and you can try to pull from that pool of people.

00:39:42.500 You said you're a bit more traditional.

00:39:43.900 Is that correct?

00:39:45.300 Yeah.

00:39:45.680 Are you Christian?

00:39:46.600 No.

00:39:46.860 Okay, but you're – so when you say you're traditional, I guess in what ways?

00:39:52.680 Well, I don't associate really with any religion.

00:39:55.520 I think there's great parts of each one, but I don't subscribe to any of that specific dogma.

00:40:02.100 I guess a lot of it is just based in naturalism as well and just kind of the natural order

00:40:09.000 of life and of living.

00:40:10.580 What's the natural order in terms of dating between men and women?

00:40:15.660 Well, naturally speaking, men would be the provider in the relationship, and women have 1.00

00:40:20.280 the element of being the nurturer.

00:40:22.180 You know, I am family.

00:40:22.660 Are men the leaders?

00:40:24.440 In some regards, too.

00:40:25.580 What do you mean in some regards?

00:40:27.020 In all regards?

00:40:28.060 No, not in all regards.

00:40:29.360 So from your perspective, should women be submissive in a relationship?

00:40:35.580 No, I don't think women need to be submissive in a relationship. 0.99

00:40:38.100 So why should men lead?

00:40:40.180 Because we each have different strengths and qualities, and that really depends on from

00:40:43.980 person to person.

00:40:45.140 So lead you when you're in the mood to be led and you have permanent veto power in all

00:40:52.440 decisions?

00:40:54.000 No.

00:40:56.000 Well, I'm exploring her worldview.

00:40:57.880 Yeah.

00:40:58.100 I mean, I don't think that in, like, the end-all be-all case.

00:41:01.480 I think each individual person has things that they're good at.

00:41:04.640 For example, in my last relationship, he was, you know, he knew everything about finances

00:41:08.940 and everything like that, and I deferred to him a lot in that realm.

00:41:13.800 So you're more socially conservative and then economically conservative, or then?

00:41:18.480 It just really depends on from relationship to relationship.

00:41:21.560 I think that there's a big nuance there.

00:41:23.920 Should men pay for first dates? 0.97

00:41:26.620 Yes.

00:41:26.940 Should men be providers in a relationship? 0.90

00:41:30.420 Yeah.

00:41:30.740 I mean, if you want to have children with a woman, I think it makes sense to do that. 1.00

00:41:35.060 So men have all the responsibility and none of the authority if they're dating you?

00:41:40.240 No.

00:41:40.640 I mean, they can have authority.

00:41:42.460 I think that things just become to be-

00:41:43.680 Can they can or can't?

00:41:44.960 They can.

00:41:45.700 It ends up being a discussion.

00:41:48.600 I mean, ultimately, somebody that you're in a relationship with, if they're telling you

00:41:52.060 to do something you really don't want to do.

00:41:54.240 For example, like today, in today's realm, I think that there's a lot of men who like a

00:42:00.460 lot of aspects of traditionalism, and they like a lot of things of these nature.

00:42:05.460 But they, what I've seen a lot happen to many of my girlfriends is that they'll end up getting 1.00

00:42:11.640 forced into things they're not comfortable with, specifically in the sexual department.

00:42:15.000 You know, I think, number one, you have to listen to God.

00:42:17.960 You have to listen to your intuition.

00:42:19.460 And if something doesn't feel right to you, you shouldn't defer to that just because somebody

00:42:24.140 you love is telling you to.

00:42:25.360 Wait, hold on.

00:42:25.680 When you say forced, what are you talking about?

00:42:31.420 Maybe the word you wanted was pressured?

00:42:33.660 Yeah, pressured.

00:42:34.900 But I mean, there are instances of people being like more forced into it.

00:42:39.080 Like manipulated?

00:42:40.340 Yeah, like really manipulated.

00:42:41.860 I had a friend-

00:42:42.280 Coerced.

00:42:42.560 Or in an ultimatum?

00:42:43.940 Yeah, and an ultimatum.

00:42:45.160 So ultimately, I mean, everybody has autonomy and they can decide, but there's a manipulative

00:42:50.040 aspect to that.

00:42:51.040 I think men that can be great leaders, but women have the areas that they can live as well.

00:42:55.220 But none of that's forced.

00:42:56.600 Outside of sexual stuff, obviously, do you think it's okay for men to pressure, coerce you

00:43:06.780 into a certain thing if it is for your own good?

00:43:09.560 Yeah.

00:43:10.080 If it's in your best interest in mind, then I think that makes sense.

00:43:14.280 What if you don't think personally it's in your best interest because you don't know

00:43:17.540 it yet?

00:43:19.200 I mean, it depends on the thing.

00:43:20.880 You can always experiment and I don't think you should be so like a diehard on that department.

00:43:26.460 Are we officially on the topic of, you know, what is the role of men and women in relationships

00:43:31.180 and who should be more submissive or dominant or what?

00:43:35.440 Yeah.

00:43:35.960 You let us know, Brian.

00:43:37.640 I mean, it's...

00:43:38.480 Just to know whether to chime in or not.

00:43:39.940 Well, in your ideal relationship, like you, not even yours, but just generally the ideal

00:43:44.940 relationship, do you believe that a woman should be submissive?

00:43:47.300 For whatever reason, I don't think submissive is necessarily the right word.

00:43:54.940 I think we defer to each other in different ways.

00:43:57.380 You know, for example, if you're a mother with a young child, right, and ideally you wouldn't

00:44:01.840 be doing sleep training.

00:44:02.820 You'd be with the child all the time.

00:44:04.300 You'd be breastfeeding. 1.00

00:44:05.500 And you'd have that experience with the child.

00:44:07.020 You'd probably have a better idea of what that child needs in those early development

00:44:12.840 years than the father might have if he's gone at work.

00:44:16.160 And that's not to say that the father isn't in touch with his child.

00:44:18.920 It doesn't mean he doesn't love his child, but our different experiences will create a

00:44:24.040 different environment in which we're able to...

00:44:25.880 So what's your definition?

00:44:27.460 Because we might be missing definitions on submissive.

00:44:30.220 Like, what do you think I mean when I say submissive?

00:44:32.820 Yeah, I guess for me, I come from a Catholic background, so I grew up Catholic and always

00:44:39.620 kind of that association of submissive is just saying, like, yes to everything, being

00:44:44.420 like, okay, fine.

00:44:45.980 So that's just kind of what I've come to associate it with because that's how I've seen submissive

00:44:51.140 be played out.

00:44:52.500 Don't you think, like, being submissive, you would be more prone to do that to somebody

00:44:59.680 that you trust rather than someone you just met?

00:45:03.660 And isn't that the point of the breastfeeding and the getting to know somebody?

00:45:08.240 I mean, that's a very fair point.

00:45:09.400 I think with all of that, women have to have a lot of discernment when they get into a relationship. 1.00

00:45:13.760 You really got to know.

00:45:14.760 And if you can get in a position where you're with a man who does love you and who does have

00:45:19.500 your best intentions at mind, then that's a situation you can be submissive.

00:45:23.340 But the reason why I have such a differentiation with that is because I think a lot of women kind 1.00

00:45:28.280 of lack that discernment and they lack getting in these situations and in these relationships

00:45:32.520 with men who really do have their best interests at heart.

00:45:35.060 That does exist and that is possible.

00:45:36.920 I have a completely different...

00:45:38.840 Oh, are we going to go?

00:45:39.740 Excuse me.

00:45:40.340 Continue.

00:45:41.040 I have a completely different idea of why things are so messed up in relationships nowadays.

00:45:46.780 And I think it's because we are living in times that have never existed before between

00:45:53.420 men and women.

00:45:54.600 I'd say up until the 1970s, women weren't really equal to men when it comes to being financially

00:46:02.740 independent up until the 1970s.

00:46:05.380 By the way, I'm very conservative, so I'm just pointing out the facts.

00:46:08.580 And the reason I'm even on this...

00:46:09.480 Can you agree with that, Andrew?

00:46:10.700 Let me listen.

00:46:11.660 The reason...

00:46:12.200 Yeah.

00:46:12.540 The reason I'm even on this show is because I think that we need to fix relationships between

00:46:16.960 men and women so that we have more nuclear families.

00:46:20.400 And so I want to speak the truth to help both sides, men and women, get along a lot better.

00:46:26.480 And I'd like to...

00:46:27.040 And so...

00:46:27.620 Yeah.

00:46:28.060 Can I just add to that is that I agree with like...

00:46:30.820 It's just the technological era.

00:46:34.520 For me, my opinion on what you're saying is that I just think like we have an impatience

00:46:42.200 in society.

00:46:43.400 That's more recent though.

00:46:44.520 When a man...

00:46:45.520 Yes, because we're in the modern now.

00:46:47.420 Yeah, but I'm going back to the 1970s.

00:46:49.460 So let me...

00:46:50.100 Yeah, let me go back a little bit more.

00:46:52.240 You're just talking about women and men.

00:46:53.740 Talking about credit cards and banks.

00:46:54.980 Exactly.

00:46:55.820 And so just the millennial generation of women is the first generation that can be financially 0.99

00:47:01.880 independent without the need...

00:47:03.260 Our access has changed.

00:47:04.040 Without the need of a man. 0.88

00:47:05.340 So the millennial woman can technically afford life for herself. 1.00

00:47:10.260 Do you think that's a good thing? 1.00

00:47:11.080 That's the biggest crock of shit I've ever heard. 1.00

00:47:12.720 So, well, we could disagree and that's why we're here, right? 1.00

00:47:16.500 Yeah.

00:47:16.780 So when we're talking about...

00:47:18.860 Women don't need men financially, therefore they want them for different reasons. 1.00

00:47:22.180 Emotional reasons and emotional intelligence.

00:47:25.400 The thing is, is when you're talking about women not being able to get credit cards, women 0.99

00:47:30.540 couldn't incur debt.

00:47:32.280 They weren't allowed to incur debt.

00:47:34.120 Yeah.

00:47:34.740 So who incurs the most amount of debt in modernity?

00:47:39.000 Okay.

00:47:39.660 Who?

00:47:40.720 Men or women? 0.78

00:47:40.920 Oh, women in the United States. 1.00

00:47:42.540 Correct.

00:47:42.980 So the thing is, is like, that doesn't seem like that's financial independence.

00:47:47.100 It seems like that's financial slavery to me.

00:47:49.760 Well, they owe things to the banks.

00:47:50.900 And not only that, most of the time that they end up with houses, they own more houses than

00:47:55.420 men.

00:47:55.600 They usually get them in divorces, not because they bought them straight out.

00:47:59.680 And the idea here, women could get bank accounts, actually. 1.00

00:48:03.360 It's just, if they were married, they didn't.

00:48:05.980 And it went through the husband because the husband was responsible for all the debt.

00:48:10.120 The women could not incur debt. 0.89

00:48:11.520 They could still spend the money, but they couldn't incur the debt.

00:48:14.520 Yeah.

00:48:14.660 But they also couldn't take out a loan or have a credit card.

00:48:16.780 They could take out loads.

00:48:17.860 They just couldn't take out loans.

00:48:19.140 If they were married, their husband took out the loan because they couldn't incur the debt.

00:48:22.720 That was a good thing.

00:48:24.080 So there wasn't financial independence is what I'm trying to say.

00:48:26.720 There was financial independence.

00:48:28.340 And that's why nowadays...

00:48:29.600 No, if you're married, why would you want...

00:48:31.380 Okay, let's back up.

00:48:32.980 Why would you need financial independence if you're married?

00:48:36.660 Because when people have historically been in positions of power over other people, people

00:48:43.260 abuse that power.

00:48:44.400 When you have any kind of relationship in history where there's...

00:48:48.860 Oh man, this is Femcon stuff.

00:48:49.540 No, I'm actually extremely conservative.

00:48:51.860 And because of...

00:48:52.500 Yeah, feminist conservative. 1.00

00:48:53.700 Femcon.

00:48:54.120 Because of the fact that men back in the day, again, weren't able to...

00:49:01.800 Or women back in the day were not able to be financially independent. 0.99

00:49:05.000 They were in a position where they couldn't be their individual selves.

00:49:09.680 Right this second, right now, as we speak, if you're married, can your wife go into your

00:49:14.100 account and take your money?

00:49:15.360 Not every relationship is like that.

00:49:16.900 Hang on, let her answer.

00:49:17.440 Yes.

00:49:18.120 Yes.

00:49:18.560 Absolutely.

00:49:19.160 I don't understand.

00:49:19.580 And vice versa as well.

00:49:20.900 So what do you need independence for?

00:49:22.700 So you can be your own individual person.

00:49:24.680 You're still your own individual person.

00:49:26.500 No, if you don't have any financial independence.

00:49:28.900 Sometimes men are controlling don't allow you to have... 1.00

00:49:29.800 If I had to rely on my man's money, I would feel...

00:49:33.160 Let us finish the engagement.

00:49:35.000 Yeah.

00:49:35.400 Right?

00:49:35.920 Correct.

00:49:36.180 Do you really want me to try to argue with five people at once?

00:49:39.920 We're not arguing.

00:49:40.660 It's a discussion.

00:49:41.420 Okay.

00:49:41.960 Mm-hmm.

00:49:42.400 It sounds like it.

00:49:44.200 So anyway...

00:49:44.800 Sorry that you're taking it that way.

00:49:45.740 Anyway.

00:49:46.400 Mm-hmm.

00:49:47.560 So you're married.

00:49:48.860 You have a husband.

00:49:49.820 Mm-hmm.

00:49:50.040 You need financial independence from your husband? 0.99

00:49:53.400 I think every person should...

00:49:54.940 Now, hang on, hang on.

00:49:55.860 Let me answer.

00:49:56.440 You just asked me a question.

00:49:57.100 I want to make sure that you say yes or no and then the qualifier.

00:50:00.920 Are you asking me a question?

00:50:01.880 Yeah, but I need you to answer yes or no and then the qualifier.

00:50:04.400 No, it's a full answer, right?

00:50:07.020 Okay, fine.

00:50:07.660 You're not going to answer it.

00:50:08.280 But go ahead.

00:50:08.680 Thank you so much.

00:50:09.860 You didn't want to actually answer it.

00:50:10.580 Yes.

00:50:10.900 So, yes, I still think that people are individuals regardless of whether they are in a partnership

00:50:17.000 with somebody else or not.

00:50:18.700 And that's why more women are refusing to be married. 1.00

00:50:21.500 And I think the number one reason, the number one proof that women weren't happy or satisfied 0.99

00:50:27.600 back in the day when they supposedly didn't have to work is that when they were offered

00:50:34.420 the opportunity to join the workforce, they did, right?

00:50:38.660 They did and they became more financially independent.

00:50:42.280 They joined careers.

00:50:43.000 They got degrees.

00:50:44.560 And so, I want it to be...

00:50:46.980 It's completely ahistorical.

00:50:48.720 Here's what actually happened.

00:50:49.760 Are you telling me I'm saying that...

00:50:51.260 Are you saying that I'm lying?

00:50:52.700 Oh, was she?

00:50:53.960 Can we get a timer on it?

00:50:55.520 She's still making her switch. 0.99

00:50:56.060 Turn the butterly.

00:50:57.080 Get a timer on it.

00:50:58.520 Just because you're married doesn't mean your man has all your best interests and your desires

00:51:02.980 at the forefront of this bar.

00:51:03.360 Well, they should.

00:51:04.080 That's why you're supposed to marry. 0.99

00:51:05.360 They should have your best interests.

00:51:06.880 Well, they don't.

00:51:08.080 They should.

00:51:08.560 That'd be nice.

00:51:09.440 Hang on.

00:51:09.800 Calm down.

00:51:10.300 Calm down.

00:51:10.600 That'd be nice in a fantasy world.

00:51:12.400 That can be perverted over time.

00:51:13.400 Let him make his point, ladies.

00:51:14.600 Let him make his point, ladies.

00:51:16.120 The whole thing is ahistorical anyway.

00:51:17.940 The reason that women had to enter the workforce is because you couldn't afford anymore to have 1.00

00:51:21.400 one income.

00:51:22.040 Most women prefer not to work. 1.00

00:51:23.320 Most married women prefer not to work. 1.00

00:51:25.180 Most women, when asked, say that they would prefer, if they've been in the workforce, to be 0.99

00:51:29.440 out of the workforce.

00:51:30.860 Why?

00:51:31.580 Because most men would prefer to be out of the workforce.

00:51:33.240 It wouldn't be nice if I could just sit at home all day and do nothing.

00:51:36.180 That sounds fantastic.

00:51:37.280 But here's the thing.

00:51:37.800 Hang on.

00:51:38.300 Hang on.

00:51:38.560 Let me finish.

00:51:39.480 Let me finish.

00:51:40.600 Let me finish.

00:51:41.320 His point of view.

00:51:42.300 So the other thing is, is all you're advocating is that wives need to have financial independence

00:51:47.120 from their husbands.

00:51:48.160 Correct.

00:51:48.780 Why?

00:51:50.220 So that they can always.

00:51:51.260 Because we're our own people.

00:51:52.440 Yes.

00:51:53.240 And just in case we need to leave them.

00:51:55.200 How is this a conservative position?

00:51:56.900 And this basic concept that we as conservative women are trying to get men, conservative men

00:52:04.280 like you, to understand is the reason that there is this complete ideological divide where

00:52:10.360 even conservative women are not getting married. 1.00

00:52:12.600 What is the difference between this position and the liberal position?

00:52:15.360 Don't blanket that with conservative women. 1.00

00:52:16.060 And you just said one sentence that is extremely important, which is women, they're just going 1.00

00:52:22.600 to stay at home and do nothing if they're married. 0.59

00:52:25.700 And the fact that you don't understand the intrinsic value of being a homemaker and a

00:52:30.400 wife, that is the reason why there is this problem, right? 1.00

00:52:33.920 Just because women have worked but not have been paid for the work that they do as a homemaker, 1.00

00:52:40.960 as a full-time child taker.

00:52:43.320 This is a feminist position. 1.00

00:52:45.160 No, this is not.

00:52:46.080 This is unpaid labor at home.

00:52:48.040 It's a feminist position. 1.00

00:52:49.260 Yeah, guys.

00:52:49.860 It is the ultimate feminist position. 1.00

00:52:51.480 And women are getting unpaid labor at home, taking care of their children. 0.98

00:52:56.500 Guys, it is an intelligent capitalist position.

00:52:59.520 How is that in a capitalist position?

00:53:00.960 So a smart woman is going to consider, hey, am I going to get into a relationship with 0.99

00:53:06.420 a man that expects me to cook and clean for us and for our kids in the day?

00:53:13.460 How hard is it to cook and clean now?

00:53:15.480 The best example I can put is, you know, let's say that you have a child that is yours biologically

00:53:24.420 dropped at your doorstep one day.

00:53:27.400 The mother is nowhere to be found.

00:53:28.880 You now have to take care of this child.

00:53:30.860 How do you take care of that child if not by paying somebody to cook for it, to feed it,

00:53:36.680 to look for it, right, around the clock.

00:53:39.640 If you had to work, you mean.

00:53:41.140 So you would have to stay going to work.

00:53:44.620 Hang on.

00:53:44.840 The qualifier is if you weren't independently wealthy, right?

00:53:47.840 If you were working.

00:53:48.840 If you're in your current position right now, how much do you think you would have to shell

00:53:52.700 out to maintain that child that is biologically yours and just got to your doorstep?

00:53:57.860 And I'll tell you.

00:53:58.640 Depends on the choices I want to make for the kid.

00:54:00.020 There has been research on this, and they quantified it to a number, to over $200,000

00:54:05.660 a year.

00:54:06.600 It does not cost $200,000 a year to raise kid.

00:54:09.080 Wait, really quick on this point, and then I'll pass it right back to Andrew.

00:54:14.140 Can you break down the $200,000 for us?

00:54:16.340 Yes.

00:54:16.500 Yeah, please.

00:54:16.980 So imagine right now food services, right?

00:54:20.380 So breakfast, lunch, and dinner made for two people.

00:54:23.440 And if you have kids, you have to add that as well.

00:54:25.660 If you take kids to school, then that is a personal driver.

00:54:30.020 Right?

00:54:30.500 The entire time that you take them to school.

00:54:32.260 Or you can homeschool.

00:54:33.280 You know, that would make things easier.

00:54:34.940 Or you just drive them and drop them off at school.

00:54:37.280 Grocery shopping, which takes time.

00:54:39.540 Grocery shopping, which takes time.

00:54:41.500 Planning out meals.

00:54:42.980 Planning out the kids' activities.

00:54:45.280 We're just describing regular human things.

00:54:47.100 Which is a personal assistant.

00:54:49.360 Well, no.

00:54:49.840 People get paid for those kinds of things.

00:54:51.700 Yes, that's true.

00:54:52.320 And here's the thing.

00:54:53.120 What's the math?

00:54:54.240 I'm not advocating.

00:54:55.420 That's what we want to know.

00:54:56.440 Because women will do this thing, like, and it's very... 1.00

00:55:00.080 The math is Google-able.

00:55:01.900 No, no, no.

00:55:02.260 But what you'll do is, hold on.

00:55:03.580 What you'll do is you'll take, okay, how much does a professional cleaner make in a year?

00:55:09.200 And maybe that's $30,000, $40,000, $50,000.

00:55:12.000 And you're going to tack that on.

00:55:14.340 But professional cleaners are cleaning 40 hours a week. 1.00

00:55:18.780 So that's definitely not calculated.

00:55:20.620 So, okay, for example, if you were to hire a professional cleaner once per week, how much would that cost?

00:55:25.660 Yes.

00:55:25.940 That might be more attuned to...

00:55:28.260 Yes, correct.

00:55:28.880 I'm going off of those numbers.

00:55:29.940 Some people are going to collapse the entire yearly earnings of all these industries.

00:55:37.140 That's not what they did in those studies, though.

00:55:39.240 That's what I'm saying.

00:55:40.160 That's why I was asking for a breakdown.

00:55:41.960 That's not what I'm saying.

00:55:42.680 So are you also doing the factoring in as to, you know, men are doing...

00:55:47.320 They're basically unpaid yard work and they're unpaid executive protection.

00:55:52.620 What I'm saying...

00:55:53.260 Does your boyfriend have a firearm?

00:55:54.840 He does, yes.

00:55:56.380 Oh, do you have a firearm?

00:55:57.280 Yes.

00:55:57.940 Okay.

00:55:58.420 So...

00:55:58.900 But he would...

00:55:59.560 Would you expect your boyfriend to, like, protect you in some sort of life-threatening situation?

00:56:04.800 He can, but we would both be, you know, good with it.

00:56:08.240 Let's say you were both disarmed.

00:56:09.660 They say a gun is an equalizer, the great equalizer.

00:56:12.520 Let's say you were both...

00:56:13.300 Are you as equal with this handgun as your boyfriend?

00:56:15.560 Really quick, though.

00:56:16.360 Let's say you were both disarmed.

00:56:17.880 He obviously, I'm assuming your boyfriend, is physically stronger than you.

00:56:20.920 Yes.

00:56:21.100 He would fare better trying to take on a physical threat.

00:56:25.940 Yes.

00:56:26.340 Right.

00:56:26.560 So you have unpaid executive protection.

00:56:29.880 Yes.

00:56:30.480 Right.

00:56:30.700 Are you factoring that into the calculus of...

00:56:33.420 Yes, correct.

00:56:34.060 And so it has to...

00:56:36.920 Okay.

00:56:37.060 Back to you.

00:56:37.560 And so basically, men are on the same spectrum in that they have to see...

00:56:42.520 If they financially benefit from coming into a partnership with a woman.

00:56:46.360 Because a man doesn't need a woman to cook or clean for them, right? 1.00

00:56:50.740 You can pay for all those services yourself.

00:56:52.660 The same way that men can pay women... 1.00

00:56:55.300 Pay a service to cook or clean for them.

00:56:57.980 Women can pay somebody to do the yard work for them. 1.00

00:57:00.400 Or they can pay a ring camera for protection.

00:57:03.300 Or they can own a firearm.

00:57:04.640 What I'm trying to say is that I want men and women to come into a relationship together

00:57:09.940 by understanding the value that they both bring to the table.

00:57:14.020 Yeah.

00:57:14.200 I understand what you're saying.

00:57:14.900 And I understand the value of men.

00:57:16.340 I think that they work very hard.

00:57:17.760 I think that society could not function with them being in key roles.

00:57:22.200 I think they are biologically a lot stronger.

00:57:24.620 That is a fact.

00:57:25.560 Right?

00:57:25.780 And so I'm very thankful for their existence.

00:57:29.560 And we need them.

00:57:30.940 However, women are equally as critical for the different services that they provide. 1.00

00:57:36.900 And the things that they are good at.

00:57:38.740 And I feel like historically, unfortunately, that has been ignored.

00:57:43.560 And that's why we're seeing this loneliness epidemic between men and women.

00:57:48.540 The loneliness epidemic exists on both sides.

00:57:51.360 That's the first thing.

00:57:52.300 I just want to argue the whole protection thing, too, for her.

00:57:56.780 Because her partner doesn't have to protect her.

00:57:59.760 That's not his job.

00:58:01.120 But might he want to protect her?

00:58:02.880 Yeah.

00:58:03.060 That's your role as a man.

00:58:04.100 So that he can continue to look at her pretty face and have her in his life?

00:58:09.640 Would you want a man that doesn't automatically protect you?

00:58:13.160 Might her partner have to expect...

00:58:14.780 And I think that...

00:58:15.340 Wait, I'm saying...

00:58:16.300 No, I'm saying, would you want a man who does not automatically protect you?

00:58:20.380 No, of course not.

00:58:21.440 But they should appreciate me to that degree that they want to.

00:58:24.120 Might her partner have an expectation, then, that, you know, she mother the kids?

00:58:29.620 She might have that expectation.

00:58:31.140 Mother the kids, yeah.

00:58:32.300 But doing all the deep cleaning of the house and the cooking of the every man. 0.90

00:58:36.000 And here's the thing.

00:58:36.780 And here's the thing.

00:58:37.400 Hang on, hang on.

00:58:38.100 Let me respond to some of your points here.

00:58:41.460 The first...

00:58:42.080 There's a bunch of holes in what you said.

00:58:43.820 The first hole is, do you want to outsource your child to other people?

00:58:47.940 Well, then, I don't understand.

00:58:50.080 Where does the financial independence thing come in?

00:58:53.760 So, I actually support women that want to be stay-at-home moms and stay...

00:58:59.560 No, no, that's not my...

00:59:00.180 I'm not asking who you support.

00:59:01.600 I know, but let me answer the question you asked me, right?

00:59:05.000 Hang on.

00:59:05.060 I want to make sure that you understand the question I asked you.

00:59:07.600 So, I'm going to ask you to repeat the question I asked you.

00:59:09.920 The question I'm asking you is, do you want mothers, mothers who are at home... 1.00

00:59:15.280 Yes.

00:59:15.920 ...to outsource their children? 0.96

00:59:17.700 And if you do or don't, how are they able to be financially independent?

00:59:23.360 Can you repeat that for me?

00:59:24.520 Yes.

00:59:25.060 Okay.

00:59:25.580 Do you believe that women should financially outsource taking care of their kids? 0.99

00:59:30.200 And I think that that depends on the individual.

00:59:32.080 What's the second part?

00:59:32.620 What's the second part of the question?

00:59:35.920 So, there's women that want to be full-time mothers and stay at home with their kids. 1.00

00:59:40.740 And there's women that want to have a career and also have kids. 1.00

00:59:44.120 And there's nothing wrong with that.

00:59:45.440 And the fact that we're chastising those kinds of women is why, again, we are in this battle of the sexes. 1.00

00:59:52.280 How does a woman maintain financial independence? 1.00

00:59:55.200 Yes.

00:59:55.400 Meaning, how does she work if she stays at home with her kids? 1.00

00:59:59.200 I can have a part-time job or a plane.

01:00:02.100 I have chastising women for being working mothers. 1.00

01:00:05.980 I have to find these guys.

01:00:06.880 You guys are saying that most people, women don't want to work, men wouldn't want to work if they could choose.

01:00:11.760 But personally, it would be my dream to be able to have a family and have the freedom to have my side hustle and have my business.

01:00:22.280 I don't need to work like a dog.

01:00:23.500 I can have it all.

01:00:24.240 Do you see the massive hole with that?

01:00:25.700 You can't have it all.

01:00:26.280 I don't want to work.

01:00:26.920 I can't have it all.

01:00:27.680 I can't have it all.

01:00:28.700 I can't have it all.

01:00:28.780 I can't have it all.

01:00:28.980 I can't have it all.

01:00:29.660 You really can.

01:00:30.440 If you work for an exception, you could have it all.

01:00:32.620 Hang on, hang on.

01:00:33.100 One at a time.

01:00:33.640 One at a time.

01:00:34.260 Calm down.

01:00:34.920 Calm down.

01:00:35.660 One at a time.

01:00:36.380 I think the answer to that is remote work.

01:00:38.600 There's only been like two at a time this whole time.

01:00:40.580 And that is remote work.

01:00:43.280 That is also work that requires being a small amount of time in the office and you can homeschool.

01:00:49.660 So homeschooling is a great option.

01:00:53.820 I plan to homeschool my kids in the future.

01:00:56.020 That means that you only take two to three hours a day.

01:00:59.040 Actually, it's not eight hours like public school, i.e. government indoctrination centers.

01:01:04.400 You take two to three hours taking care of your kids, educating your kids, instilling the moral values that you want in them.

01:01:10.360 Do you see the new hole you just made in your ideology, though?

01:01:12.560 And then you have the rest of the day to also do your job, whatever it is that you are passionate about.

01:01:18.280 Where do your kids go while you do your job?

01:01:20.420 Whatever you're passionate about and you can bring your kids along to it.

01:01:22.900 So the way that women have financial independence, while they don't outsource the child care, is by having part-time remote work. 1.00

01:01:32.360 Now, question.

01:01:33.500 It exists.

01:01:34.280 Does she get to keep all that money or does that go to the contribution of the household? 1.00

01:01:38.240 I think it should.

01:01:39.420 Yes.

01:01:39.740 I think it depends on the relationship.

01:01:40.440 If that's the case, how is she being financially independent again? 0.96

01:01:43.780 Because maybe she can have all the money. 0.92

01:01:44.980 Let her answer.

01:01:46.160 Because she can still have personal accounts that she only has access to. 1.00

01:01:51.640 And you also have joint accounts as well.

01:01:53.520 So she's keeping the money away from the contribution of the household in a personal account that nobody else has access to.

01:01:58.920 For her own self?

01:01:59.180 I think that every single adult, male and female, should have a prenup.

01:02:04.860 And that should be part of that as well for their own personal protection.

01:02:09.180 But I think overall, the reason for the prenup...

01:02:12.640 So you're advising women to hide money from the household? 0.66

01:02:15.860 No.

01:02:15.980 How can you hide something that is hiding?

01:02:17.760 This is what works for her.

01:02:18.700 That is hiding money.

01:02:19.900 Not all.

01:02:20.380 How is hiding?

01:02:21.300 Hold on, girls. 0.99

01:02:22.080 There's not a traditional...

01:02:23.740 Everyone knows the numbers.

01:02:24.980 This is like, even if this was a traditional structure, it still would not be the traditional structure.

01:02:30.260 Yes.

01:02:30.320 It wouldn't be for everyone.

01:02:31.460 But how is it hiding if it's something that was previously agreed upon before coming into America?

01:02:36.780 Here's what's funny.

01:02:38.420 When you're talking about advising, you're like, listen, women. 0.98

01:02:42.860 What I want you to do is have your own independent money. 0.76

01:02:45.440 And the way that you can do this and not outsource the child care so you don't have to work is hopefully you can be one of the few.

01:02:51.820 So you don't have to work.

01:02:52.620 Hang on.

01:02:53.300 Hang on.

01:02:53.540 I'm not saying that.

01:02:54.060 Hang on.

01:02:54.800 Well, yes, you are.

01:02:56.180 You have to work in order to get money.

01:02:58.320 Yes.

01:02:58.820 Yes.

01:02:59.020 So you don't have to work so that you can work, you mean.

01:03:02.540 So let me give the position.

01:03:03.500 Right.

01:03:03.780 So you can work.

01:03:04.280 Let me give the position.

01:03:05.380 Okay.

01:03:05.840 And I'll make sure I'm steelmanning it.

01:03:08.260 Women should have own money. 1.00

01:03:10.100 Do we agree with that?

01:03:11.360 Yeah.

01:03:12.020 They get money by working.

01:03:13.420 Do we agree with that?

01:03:14.120 Yes.

01:03:14.640 Women have children, and you don't want them to outsource the care of the children to other people. 1.00

01:03:20.320 It depends on the occasion.

01:03:22.080 But if they want to not outsource...

01:03:24.080 If they want to go on vacation, yes.

01:03:24.980 Well, you would agree with me it's better for the outcomes of children if they don't.

01:03:28.220 If I want to go on a date night with my husband, yes, I will outsource.

01:03:31.680 That's not outsourcing care.

01:03:32.920 That is exactly what I'm referring to about outsourcing care.

01:03:36.900 Hiring a babysitter for six hours is far different than sending your kid...

01:03:40.720 So we have different definitions than outsourcing care.

01:03:41.820 No, we don't have a different definition.

01:03:43.040 It's so absurd.

01:03:44.140 You're arguing bad faith.

01:03:45.100 We're going to argue...

01:03:46.320 Hang on a second.

01:03:47.540 Oh, hey, can you come babysit tonight?

01:03:50.080 Oh, you just outsourced the care of your...

01:03:51.660 No, that's not what we're talking about.

01:03:53.240 We're talking about long-term outsourcing of the raising of your children to other people.

01:03:56.720 You're talking about nanny raising. 0.89

01:03:57.920 Exactly.

01:03:58.340 So what if you want to live with nanny? 0.98

01:04:00.060 You've got to stop interrupting or I can't...

01:04:01.720 We'll never get through the argument.

01:04:02.800 I promise we'll be able to engage.

01:04:04.580 But walking through the argument...

01:04:05.720 It's on your time.

01:04:06.280 ...woman stays home. 1.00

01:04:07.340 It's never ending.

01:04:08.020 Well, who's having the argument?

01:04:09.500 So woman stays home and you want her to have her own money. 1.00

01:04:13.380 You don't want her to outsource the care of the children. 0.98

01:04:15.800 That means that she has to get some kind of remote job while she's at home.

01:04:18.780 But instead of contributing all of that to the joint household expenses, you still are

01:04:24.500 recommending that she hold some of it in reserve, right?

01:04:26.920 In her own account that her husband can't access?

01:04:29.520 Yeah, and then the man as well.

01:04:31.160 Yes.

01:04:31.640 He doesn't need to not know about it.

01:04:32.260 How does that not create a massive division in the marriage? 0.99

01:04:35.580 Why not just share everything in the marriage? 0.88

01:04:37.560 You're married.

01:04:38.260 Because girls things are allowed. 1.00

01:04:39.680 There's a...

01:04:40.340 There's a fund for that as well. 1.00

01:04:40.960 Because women are selfish. 1.00

01:04:42.660 If you have a daughter... 0.99

01:04:42.860 There's a fund for that.

01:04:43.940 If you have a daughter...

01:04:44.740 How much money do you think people make?

01:04:45.940 Okay, if you have a daughter...

01:04:47.500 If you have a daughter...

01:04:48.500 I do have daughters.

01:04:49.380 You do have a daughter.

01:04:50.340 And when they grow up, would you tell them,

01:04:52.500 Honey, I want you to get married with no prenup whatsoever.

01:04:56.900 Completely be financially dependent on a man.

01:04:59.380 Is that what you would advise them?

01:05:00.220 Well, first of all, the prenup would be better for the man.

01:05:03.780 For her...

01:05:04.300 I'm not talking about that.

01:05:04.800 For her having...

01:05:05.440 I'm talking about your daughter.

01:05:06.040 That's what I'm saying.

01:05:07.180 Wait, let him answer.

01:05:07.880 That's what I'm saying.

01:05:08.700 The prenup would actually be better for the man.

01:05:10.700 So her, I would tell her not to get the prenup.

01:05:13.240 Because if they got a divorce, she's going to actually have an advantage in court. 1.00

01:05:18.020 That's the first thing.

01:05:18.820 That's not necessarily true.

01:05:19.400 It is necessarily true.

01:05:20.520 It is true.

01:05:20.940 It is factually untrue.

01:05:22.120 It factually is true.

01:05:24.040 So here's the other part of this that's funny.

01:05:27.560 And this moves into the ideology, right?

01:05:29.940 Why would I want my daughter to marry a man who she didn't trust enough to manage the household finances,

01:05:37.620 or even if they jointly manage the household finances,

01:05:40.780 for them to have complete access to each other's accounts, social media?

01:05:45.600 They're one flesh.

01:05:46.820 They're one flesh.

01:05:49.260 Do you get to make a choice on who she marries, though? 0.71

01:05:51.960 No.

01:05:52.600 Okay.

01:05:53.000 So then you trust...

01:05:54.020 You asked me what I would advise.

01:05:55.720 What do you mean by one flesh?

01:05:59.320 What?

01:05:59.500 One flesh to...

01:06:00.880 Yes, one flesh.

01:06:01.460 You would advise your daughter to basically... 0.94

01:06:03.880 Hang on.

01:06:04.700 Go ahead.

01:06:05.400 So we're talking about worldviews here.

01:06:07.320 So I have a different paradigm than you have.

01:06:09.280 You guys have like a modern liberal paradigm.

01:06:11.800 No, I don't.

01:06:12.720 Yes, you do.

01:06:13.320 I don't.

01:06:13.560 I have...

01:06:14.060 Yeah, you do.

01:06:14.740 But I have a paradigm, an orthodox religious paradigm.

01:06:19.140 Orthodox Christian religious paradigm.

01:06:20.280 So I have a different paradigm than you do.

01:06:22.160 Really?

01:06:22.500 Yes, really.

01:06:23.560 Christian.

01:06:24.420 Yes, Christian.

01:06:25.320 I think we're forgetting the fact that when you are in a long-term marriage, there is

01:06:29.580 a possibility that one of the partners could go through mental illness.

01:06:34.180 Sure.

01:06:34.520 Or you end up with a narcissist that doesn't reveal themselves until they've got you locked

01:06:39.660 down.

01:06:40.580 So I think...

01:06:41.560 At least for me.

01:06:42.380 I think...

01:06:43.160 Why I would have a little like...

01:06:45.240 Narcissism's rare.

01:06:46.780 No.

01:06:47.120 Not as much as you think.

01:06:48.780 Narcissism is true.

01:06:49.400 Not alone.

01:06:49.900 Especially these.

01:06:50.940 Covert narcissism, maybe.

01:06:52.320 Hang on.

01:06:52.680 Let's find out.

01:06:53.280 Let's find out.

01:06:53.580 We'll do an experiment right now.

01:06:55.460 Okay?

01:06:56.100 Real quick.

01:06:57.300 Before we get to the narcissist.

01:06:58.620 Real quick.

01:06:59.360 Raise your hand if you've dated a narcissist.

01:07:01.180 Go ahead.

01:07:02.760 Okay.

01:07:03.760 Now, keep your hands raised if you've dated a narcissist. 0.53

01:07:07.800 In true definition, though, probably not, but like modern definition.

01:07:10.660 Now, keep your hand raised if they were a diagnosed narcissist or if you...

01:07:15.660 Okay. 1.00

01:07:16.240 They would have to go to therapy and doctors and do that kind of shit. 0.99

01:07:20.760 I think we're deviating from the subject here. 0.99

01:07:22.900 Of course they're not diagnosed.

01:07:23.860 They don't care about their mental health.

01:07:24.840 It was yours that diagnosed narcissists.

01:07:26.460 So one person at the table actually dated a diagnosed narcissist.

01:07:31.080 Was he diagnosed?

01:07:32.540 We're deviating from the subject where I'm just pointing out that it's hypocritical to say that you don't believe women and men should have prenups when you know that you wouldn't advise your daughter to get into a marriage without a prenup with a man.

01:07:45.640 Period.

01:07:46.000 You wouldn't.

01:07:46.340 No, I literally told you the prenup would be in favor for the man, not for her.

01:07:51.200 That is not true.

01:07:52.120 It is true.

01:07:53.240 It's definitely true. 0.57

01:07:54.760 Maybe because she doesn't have money to begin with. 0.99

01:07:56.160 Hold on, guys.

01:07:57.060 So saying that you don't want a prenup is the equivalent of saying that you don't believe that you'll amount to anything in life that will be worth something that somebody else wants to...

01:08:06.840 Yeah, that's not saying that at all.

01:08:08.300 Yes, it is.

01:08:08.800 No, what it's saying is that you have faith.

01:08:11.220 What if I...

01:08:11.560 You have faith.

01:08:12.280 Okay, so...

01:08:12.920 What if I make more than my husband in the future?

01:08:15.020 And I hope that I do.

01:08:15.880 And I hope that he makes more than me.

01:08:18.040 It doesn't really matter.

01:08:18.320 So you're preparing for failure?

01:08:19.780 No.

01:08:20.380 I'm preparing for...

01:08:21.880 You're preparing for failure.

01:08:23.100 ...being successful.

01:08:24.380 Mm-hmm.

01:08:24.880 And that may be the case.

01:08:26.700 You're preparing for failure.

01:08:27.820 No.

01:08:28.400 Then why do you need the prenup?

01:08:30.080 Because I believe in statistics and...

01:08:33.000 Stop, stop.

01:08:34.160 Statistics, right?

01:08:35.180 Mm-hmm.

01:08:35.380 90% of marriages end up in divorce.

01:08:37.940 And who are they mostly initiated by?

01:08:40.500 Just because...

01:08:41.420 Oh, my gosh.

01:08:42.380 Well, my...

01:08:43.500 Who are they mostly initiated by?

01:08:44.700 My ex-employer, Charlie Kirk, answered this question not too long ago when he was on the

01:08:48.460 podcast or it was on one of his Prove Me Wrongs.

01:08:52.300 And just because women first initiate divorces doesn't mean that men aren't the first ones 0.99

01:08:57.940 to start the process or give them a reason to.

01:09:01.620 So that is a completely illogical...

01:09:03.780 Then how come they don't put as the...

01:09:05.380 They put as the reason things like irreconcilable differences.

01:09:08.160 They're not putting things like...

01:09:10.580 Domestic violence.

01:09:11.180 Domestic violence, cheating, things like this.

01:09:13.120 They're just putting irreconcilable differences.

01:09:15.360 Okay.

01:09:15.480 Your former employer, by the way, Charlie Kirk, would have completely and totally agreed with

01:09:19.700 me on what marriage was.

01:09:20.960 No, not on this subject.

01:09:21.260 Yes, on this subject, too.

01:09:22.340 And verbatim, this can be looked up, Googled.

01:09:24.280 Okay.

01:09:24.920 So Charlie Kirk is recommending to his daughters to get a prenuptial agreement?

01:09:28.700 I don't know because...

01:09:29.420 Did he have one with Erica?

01:09:30.600 Because he's not here and I don't know that either.

01:09:32.680 Of course not.

01:09:33.600 He didn't.

01:09:34.340 I guarantee you he didn't.

01:09:35.760 I hope that you are not saying things that aren't true.

01:09:39.440 I'm pretty confident that Charlie Kirk did not have a prenup with Erica Kirk.

01:09:42.740 You really can't speak for him, though.

01:09:44.180 Correct.

01:09:44.960 I mean, I can call Jack Prasovic and ask him right now.

01:09:47.580 I bet you he's going to tell...

01:09:48.720 I bet he would.

01:09:49.620 That's a dishonor.

01:09:50.200 That was like his best friend.

01:09:51.500 That's a very dishonest take.

01:09:52.600 Wait, can I ask one question?

01:09:53.760 Dishonest take.

01:09:54.240 Do you think...

01:09:54.980 Look in the camera and say that you think that Charlie Kirk had a prenup with Erica Kirk.

01:09:59.320 I don't know whether or not they had a prenup. 0.89

01:10:01.860 Ridiculous. 0.95

01:10:02.340 No, this is the honest take. 0.97

01:10:04.140 I don't know.

01:10:04.720 I neither do.

01:10:05.300 So not only that, though.

01:10:06.280 Can you admit that you don't know for a fact?

01:10:07.720 The problem is...

01:10:08.520 Can you admit that you don't know for a fact?

01:10:09.980 You can't know it for a fact.

01:10:11.380 Did he have a prenup?

01:10:11.920 But I would say I doubt it.

01:10:14.460 I doubt it.

01:10:14.920 Okay, so you don't know for a fact, correct?

01:10:16.120 Yeah, but I doubt it.

01:10:17.420 But you don't know for a fact.

01:10:18.240 I mean, I don't know for a fact who you say you are.

01:10:22.120 There's like a statistical average here.

01:10:23.780 There's going to be some doubt.

01:10:24.880 Thank you.

01:10:25.140 But I doubt it.

01:10:26.020 Can I get a scenario?

01:10:26.580 Not only that, let's point this out, though.

01:10:28.440 You still have massive holes.

01:10:29.580 You still have massive holes in your logic.

01:10:31.660 Go for it.

01:10:31.800 And the huge hole in your logic is if you're advising women to not outsource their care,

01:10:36.960 try to get some kind of remote job, what I don't understand is why you're trying to pit

01:10:40.960 the husband and wife against each other, though.

01:10:42.560 I'm not.

01:10:42.740 Why is it that she doesn't have as much responsibility to the contribution of the household as he does?

01:10:47.680 If he wants to have access to her money, why shouldn't he be allowed to do that?

01:10:51.500 Let's talk facts and statistics.

01:10:55.280 Statistically speaking, couples that have prenups last longer and don't get divorces.

01:11:00.020 Why do you think that is?

01:11:01.280 Well, I don't even think that's true, actually.

01:11:04.200 It is.

01:11:04.840 And anybody watching this can look this up.

01:11:06.140 Do you think it's likely true?

01:11:07.560 No, it is true.

01:11:08.340 Okay.

01:11:08.880 I would say it's probably likely true if it is.

01:11:10.560 It is true.

01:11:11.040 I'm going to calm down, ladies, so I can answer.

01:11:12.800 I think it would be likely due to wealth because wealthy people divorce less and wealthy people

01:11:17.140 are the more likely to get prenups.

01:11:18.720 Therefore, I would say it's probably the most likely wealthy people get prenups.

01:11:22.420 Wealthy people are the least.

01:11:23.160 What you're doing is causation correlation.

01:11:25.640 No.

01:11:26.040 Because it correlates that people with prenups get divorced less.

01:11:30.680 And it also correlates that people who are wealthy get divorced less.

01:11:34.500 Why should we use your correlate that it's the prenup which prevents them from getting

01:11:37.400 divorced rather than the wealth?

01:11:38.020 No, I just presented a fact, which is that those people...

01:11:40.000 And what does that correlate to, though?

01:11:41.900 It correlates to, and divorce lawyers speak on this, it's the fact that those couples are

01:11:46.880 the ones that have the difficult conversations on money, on lifestyle, and all of those things

01:11:51.540 and put it down on paper before they get married.

01:11:55.140 Because they have it.

01:11:55.760 Because that's what responsible people do.

01:11:57.380 Yeah, because they're wealthy.

01:11:58.600 Because that's what emotionally intelligent people do.

01:12:00.460 Most people do not have the wealth to even worry about a prenup.

01:12:03.320 Do you think that non-wealthy people don't get prenups?

01:12:06.720 I am not a non-wealthy person that got a prenup.

01:12:09.440 Not often.

01:12:10.220 Often?

01:12:11.000 There you go.

01:12:11.420 Often?

01:12:12.580 She's a non-wealthy person.

01:12:13.300 That's nice.

01:12:14.100 Okay, yeah.

01:12:14.640 Are women on average shorter than men? 0.97

01:12:18.660 Oh, I'm not shorter than most men.

01:12:19.980 What would you consider wealthy?

01:12:22.600 Probably 500,000 plus.

01:12:24.640 Okay, and that is what percentage of the population that has?

01:12:27.440 Very small percentage.

01:12:28.360 Very small percentage.

01:12:29.060 But we still have a lot more than, what, 5% of prenups?

01:12:32.660 Like 5% of people that get married to prenups?

01:12:33.940 They usually correlates with the wealthy.

01:12:35.860 Yes, but no, we have a lot more prenups than we have people that qualify as wealthy, according to you.

01:12:41.160 Yeah, what you would need to show us, though, isn't that there's no poor people who get prenups, because that was never the statement.

01:12:45.840 What you'd need to show us was whether or not it's the case that the correlate here isn't that wealthy people get divorced less, because they're wealthy, or it's the case that it's because they have a prenup they're getting divorced less.

01:12:58.340 I would say it's due to the wealth.

01:12:59.780 Well, I asked you what you think.

01:13:00.760 Because that correlates with higher forms of education.

01:13:03.340 I asked you what you think the correlation was.

01:13:04.560 I just told you.

01:13:05.600 Okay.

01:13:06.200 It's going to be wealth and education.

01:13:07.700 Those are the things that correlate with less divorce.

01:13:10.020 Right.

01:13:10.220 Can I ask a lot?

01:13:10.720 But regardless, when you have a prenup.

01:13:13.160 Just wait.

01:13:13.580 But regardless, when you have a prenup, then absolutely.

01:13:17.980 Hold on, because I was getting a little distracted here.

01:13:21.840 Regardless, if you do have a prenup, then there is a high probability that you stay married.

01:13:26.380 So wouldn't you say it's a good thing?

01:13:27.820 That's not.

01:13:27.940 Would you say it's a good thing for marriage?

01:13:29.480 You have to demonstrate it's because of the prenup and not because of the other correlates,

01:13:33.680 which would be wealth and education, which are the higher contributing factors for lessening divorce. 0.99

01:13:39.800 Show me how the correlate of a prenup.

01:13:42.300 Like, do poor people with prenups get divorced less?

01:13:44.620 Can you show that?

01:13:46.020 I think that those are the statistics that you need to find online.

01:13:49.120 No, you're looking at an average of all prenups and saying, okay, on average, this has some correlate to a smaller percentage.

01:13:56.400 I know that being wealthy isn't the reason, because you just said wealthy to you.

01:13:58.920 If it's $500,000 or more, and I'm telling you that that is what may be the top 5% of the population,

01:14:06.700 but a lot more than the top 5% of the population get prenups, yes or no?

01:14:10.820 Yes or no?

01:14:11.520 Yes, of course.

01:14:12.160 Yes.

01:14:12.420 Okay, so it's not well.

01:14:13.060 That doesn't make your point.

01:14:14.360 Yes, it does.

01:14:14.980 Okay, do you agree with me that on average, men are taller than women?

01:14:18.700 Yes.

01:14:19.000 Okay, but do you also agree that some women are taller than the average man?

01:14:22.940 What the heck does this have to do with you?

01:14:23.820 Answer my question.

01:14:24.520 Do you agree that...

01:14:25.380 You're all probably...

01:14:26.340 Can I just...

01:14:26.620 Stop, stop, stop, stop.

01:14:28.040 Jeez.

01:14:28.780 Do you agree with me?

01:14:29.440 You asked Andrew a question.

01:14:30.700 He answered it.

01:14:31.260 Go ahead.

01:14:31.720 He asked you a question.

01:14:32.680 Please answer his question.

01:14:32.960 Do you agree with me that there are some women, though, who are taller than average men?

01:14:37.180 Yes.

01:14:37.580 Does that eliminate the fact that on average, men are taller?

01:14:40.920 Of course not, right?

01:14:41.740 No.

01:14:41.940 Okay, so when we're talking about a correlate here, we're going to use the same standard.

01:14:46.680 Do you agree with me that people who have high educations or higher education get divorced

01:14:52.680 less?

01:14:53.620 Sure, yes.

01:14:54.240 Okay, do you also agree that there's a correlate between people who have higher education and

01:14:58.120 wealth?

01:14:59.080 Yes.

01:14:59.560 Okay, so now we are agreeing that wealthy people and highly educated people get divorced

01:15:04.540 less.

01:15:05.200 Those are also the people most likely to get prenups.

01:15:07.520 Just because other people also get prenups who aren't them doesn't mean that the contributing

01:15:12.480 factor here to the lesser divorce has anything to do with the prenup.

01:15:16.760 Do you understand that now?

01:15:17.800 I understand what you're saying.

01:15:19.480 Uh-huh.

01:15:19.900 I understand what you're saying.

01:15:21.060 Okay.

01:15:21.260 And I agree with what you're saying.

01:15:22.460 Okay.

01:15:23.080 However, the point I'm trying to make is that I think it is good for not just rich people

01:15:31.440 to be the ones getting prenups so that-

01:15:33.720 Well, that's a different argument, though.

01:15:35.060 No, that is my original argument, right?

01:15:37.040 That is what I think.

01:15:38.160 That's the point I've been trying to make.

01:15:39.620 But you're saying the reason is because that's going to contribute to lesser divorce 0.99

01:15:43.360 in people who aren't wealthy.

01:15:44.760 Yes.

01:15:44.940 What I'm asking you is to demonstrate that part.

01:15:47.260 Not if people who are wealthy and have high education get lesser divorce also have more 0.73

01:15:52.560 prenups, but whether or not people who have prenups who aren't in those categories

01:15:56.620 are actually getting divorced less because of the prenup.

01:15:59.980 That's what I want the demonstration of.

01:16:01.980 Gotcha.

01:16:03.140 I understand what you're saying.

01:16:04.740 So, if, again, only top 5% of the population qualifies as wealthy, according to you, and

01:16:10.740 they do get a prenup, and as a result, they don't-

01:16:13.560 Well, hang on.

01:16:14.040 That was off the cuff.

01:16:15.020 Whatever they consider wealthy to be.

01:16:16.260 Okay.

01:16:16.280 And they don't get divorced.

01:16:18.860 Cool.

01:16:19.400 That's great.

01:16:19.900 Fantastic.

01:16:20.180 That's not good for them.

01:16:21.500 Now, for the rest of the population, that doesn't qualify as wealthy, according to you, the

01:16:26.680 500 threshold.

01:16:28.020 It could be more than that.

01:16:29.000 Mm-hmm.

01:16:29.920 And they stay married as well.

01:16:31.560 Why do you think that is?

01:16:32.560 Because it's clearly not wealth that's keeping them together.

01:16:35.120 It must be the fact that they are responsible individuals that get together.

01:16:39.540 No.

01:16:39.620 That doesn't follow.

01:16:40.120 Let me finish my thought.

01:16:41.580 Responsible individuals that get together and talk about the reasons why they want to

01:16:46.080 be in a marriage in the first place. 0.96

01:16:47.840 That's not even an argument.

01:16:48.840 Where they share responsibility.

01:16:50.000 Yes, because if it's not-

01:16:50.640 That's not even an argument.

01:16:51.940 That doesn't even logically follow.

01:16:53.660 You're just saying, I agree with you, Andrew, that people who have prenups who are also in

01:16:57.020 these high categories for lesser divorce, I agree that those are the contributing factors

01:17:01.780 for the lesser divorce, but I also just assume that other people who get prenups who aren't

01:17:06.300 in those wealthy or highly educated categories also get divorced less, based on I made it up.

01:17:11.060 No, based on facts.

01:17:12.340 What's the fact?

01:17:13.280 People that get prenups don't get divorced.

01:17:15.320 Okay.

01:17:15.680 Okay, but is it because of the prenup?

01:17:18.980 No, I don't think it's because of the prenup.

01:17:20.020 Exactly.

01:17:20.720 So then who cares?

01:17:21.940 How does that make your argument then?

01:17:23.440 So why is it a bad thing for people to get it?

01:17:25.880 Well, it-

01:17:26.440 Why are you so against it?

01:17:27.440 First of all, I'm not against prenups.

01:17:29.360 Okay.

01:17:29.560 That's not the point, but I'm not going to let you get away with the argument that prenup,

01:17:34.260 just having a prenup is going to lead to lesser divorce. 1.00

01:17:36.800 That's not the strong correlate here.

01:17:38.740 The strong correlate is going to be higher education, wealth.

01:17:42.120 Those are the things which usually inspire people to get prenuptial agreements to begin

01:17:45.260 with, and those are already in the categories of people who get divorced less.

01:17:48.320 So that's the case.

01:17:49.080 Look, if I got married-

01:17:49.700 When you say an auto mechanic gets a prenup with a waitress, right? 0.94

01:17:54.160 What part of the prenup is the mass consideration for divorce here? 0.99

01:17:59.620 They don't fucking have nothing. 0.98

01:18:01.220 Okay. 0.98

01:18:01.740 Mechanics can make a lot of money, so I disagree on that.

01:18:02.780 Mechanics can make a lot of money, so I disagree on that.

01:18:03.860 That's why you can't possibly conceptualize, and that's why it is a problem.

01:18:06.600 And a lot of money is a problem.

01:18:07.180 What's the problem?

01:18:07.880 The fact that you're thinking that those two people, that the waitress and the mechanic

01:18:11.380 can't make money in the future after they get married- 1.00

01:18:13.760 I'm not saying they can't.

01:18:14.920 That is what I'm saying.

01:18:16.620 Okay, so that is the premise that you're saying?

01:18:18.900 No, I'm not.

01:18:19.560 One of the points she made earlier is that-

01:18:21.300 I'm saying if a mechanic and a waitress, they have a prenup, and then like three years later

01:18:25.780 they get a divorce, right?

01:18:27.620 But that was, I don't know, on average, like a year longer than most people.

01:18:31.420 How would the prenup have done anything with that exactly?

01:18:35.260 Well, first of all, it's very unlikely that they get divorced in the first place.

01:18:39.600 Hypothetically, I'm just saying.

01:18:40.740 No, objectively speaking.

01:18:42.260 Okay, but hypothetically, I'm saying.

01:18:43.300 But hypothetically, right, the good thing is, if they do get a prenup and they do get

01:18:48.120 divorced, is that they set the standards for their divorce instead of some random person

01:18:52.600 in the U.S. government.

01:18:53.700 Okay, so-

01:18:54.200 Isn't that a good enough reason to?

01:18:56.440 Yes or no?

01:18:57.220 Good enough reason?

01:18:57.620 No, no, no, no.

01:18:58.520 That's not a good enough reason for a prenup, no.

01:19:00.400 No, you want the government to make the decision for you.

01:19:00.980 Well, then why get married?

01:19:03.960 Why get married?

01:19:04.460 Why get married?

01:19:05.440 Right, guys?

01:19:06.180 Why get married?

01:19:06.720 Answer my question.

01:19:07.660 Don't get married.

01:19:08.520 Forget love.

01:19:09.260 I'm down to God.

01:19:10.560 You can't have love without marriage?

01:19:11.640 This is also the reason.

01:19:12.120 You can't have love without marriage?

01:19:13.760 You can't have children without marriage? 0.99

01:19:14.740 You can't have those things without marriage? 1.00

01:19:16.460 Why get married at all?

01:19:17.440 I'm saying that you can.

01:19:17.640 If the whole idea here from you, from the FemCon, the FemCon idea, don't marry yourself 0.82

01:19:23.740 to the state, get a prenup instead.

01:19:26.360 It's like, okay, well then why get married at all?

01:19:29.240 Can you explain that to me?

01:19:30.560 Because right now marriage is a legal institution as well.

01:19:34.340 It didn't used to be a legal institution.

01:19:35.620 I do, so that's the same thing you're advising a prenup for.

01:19:39.140 So since it is, you're denying reality, which is that marriage is a legal concept.

01:19:44.300 Why do they even need to get married at all then?

01:19:46.600 You're legally married after.

01:19:48.000 You're arguing now against marriage.

01:19:48.820 Is that the case?

01:19:49.520 How is that me arguing instead of asking you a question?

01:19:52.340 What's the difference between a question and an argument?

01:19:54.060 You just said, why get married at all?

01:19:55.300 Are questions arguments?

01:19:57.440 Questions are not arguments.

01:19:58.060 Y'all are stating opinions.

01:19:58.920 So then I asked you a question that's the opposite of an argument.

01:20:02.640 The question is, why get married at all then?

01:20:04.440 Why get married at all?

01:20:05.280 Because you want somebody to witness your life.

01:20:07.400 Because you want a life partner.

01:20:08.800 Because of love.

01:20:09.680 Because that is what creates healthy, intelligent children.

01:20:13.640 Security.

01:20:14.660 That can see parents that are in a healthy relationship, that love each other.

01:20:18.980 There's so many benefits to marriage, and I want people to get married.

01:20:21.620 So help me out here.

01:20:22.400 But you're not helping the cause.

01:20:23.880 That's why I'm here.

01:20:25.520 Hang on.

01:20:25.980 Well, I'm glad you're here.

01:20:26.940 This is so strange.

01:20:27.740 Tell me any of those things that you just listed that you can't have absent marriage.

01:20:33.260 Absent of marriage?

01:20:34.100 Because you don't have commitment.

01:20:36.540 You don't have it.

01:20:37.020 Why not?

01:20:37.780 Because you don't, nothing says I choose you, and I'm committed to the person.

01:20:42.720 Like a prenup.

01:20:43.480 Other than marriage.

01:20:45.000 Nothing says I choose you like a prenup.

01:20:47.100 A prenup?

01:20:48.360 Nothing says I choose you, but Pikachu, I choose you.

01:20:51.640 Here's the reality of marriage.

01:20:53.580 Stop, stop, stop, stop.

01:20:55.180 Why can't she speak?

01:20:56.380 I'm about to allow you to speak, but I was trying to actually open it up to the whole

01:21:01.020 panel here for a moment.

01:21:02.420 Sorry, is that easy?

01:21:02.940 That's what I, yeah, but you guys, let me get it in here.

01:21:05.920 We have a chat coming through, then I'll have you guys weigh in.

01:21:08.180 Flavia Sassanis is donating $200.

01:21:10.440 You got it, EB on the.

01:21:11.640 Puse the feminist dresses like a 304. 1.00

01:21:14.680 Typical.

01:21:15.580 Great.

01:21:16.280 Do you want to respond to that really quick?

01:21:17.440 Um, if this is dressed like, you know, that, then, you know, that is your qualifier.

01:21:24.260 Maybe just move the mic back.

01:21:26.100 Yeah.

01:21:26.400 Okay, so here's what I want to do.

01:21:28.040 Here's what I want to do.

01:21:28.980 We do have a lot of people.

01:21:29.380 This is why you're watching the show and are single.

01:21:32.740 We're like, we're like 10 minutes away from finishing this.

01:21:35.040 Family friendly 304 you are.

01:21:36.420 We do have other people on the panel as a thing and I need to be considerate.

01:21:41.340 So here's what I'll do.

01:21:42.580 You guys can finish that conversation, but those of you who've been listening and want

01:21:46.420 to weigh in on something, now's your opportunity if you'd like to weigh in.

01:21:51.320 Okay, I have like two things I want to say and it just doesn't have anything to do with

01:21:55.780 the prenup.

01:21:56.260 My thing is that women's jobs are easier now than they have ever been in the household 1.00

01:22:02.360 as a mother, as a caretaker.

01:22:04.000 We have washing machines.

01:22:05.120 We don't have to go to the quarry and rub our clothes on rocks anymore.

01:22:09.540 So that's why women got bored and wanted to move into the workforce. 1.00

01:22:13.280 So that's a technological issue.

01:22:15.440 And then second of all, just like men have spreadsheets that they work on instead.

01:22:21.420 Yeah, sure.

01:22:22.540 Or a podcast.

01:22:23.840 It's easier for everyone.

01:22:25.180 Exactly.

01:22:25.720 Isn't it great?

01:22:26.340 Technology and capitalism.

01:22:27.600 Here, put the mic down.

01:22:28.420 Andrew's going to take a smoke.

01:22:29.440 So if you want to take this seat and finish your thought.

01:22:32.320 Okay, with Andrew.

01:22:32.900 And then my second thing is I only understand Andrew's point in the fact that if you're going

01:22:40.060 to marry someone, you should trust them.

01:22:42.140 And a prenup, yeah, again, probably more for if you have money, you know, or, and if you're

01:22:47.760 going to come into money, good for you.

01:22:50.780 Then get a, you can, I think you can still get a prenup eventually, even after you get

01:22:54.780 married.

01:22:55.320 You can.

01:22:55.880 Okay, cool.

01:22:56.860 So that's good.

01:22:58.340 And then, yeah, I just, that's like all I'm going to say.

01:23:03.220 That's all I want to say.

01:23:04.480 You guys seem to like you wanted to weigh in here a bit.

01:23:06.920 Even, I'm sorry, even if you're not legally married with a certificate, by law, you are

01:23:13.300 legally married after a certain amount of time.

01:23:15.420 Seven years.

01:23:16.160 Yeah.

01:23:16.620 I think it was eight, but I don't know.

01:23:18.140 I think it varies depending on the state.

01:23:19.580 Wait, are you responding to her or is this your original thing that you wanted to bring

01:23:23.000 out?

01:23:23.060 This is just something that I wanted to weigh in on.

01:23:24.540 Okay.

01:23:24.720 So what, you're talking about civil, what is it?

01:23:27.600 No, by law, yeah.

01:23:30.220 I don't know the exact terminology.

01:23:32.200 Okay.

01:23:32.400 I know by law, it varies per state, that you are legally married to someone after spending

01:23:37.160 a certain amount of time with them, especially living in a household with them.

01:23:40.880 That's not in every state.

01:23:42.520 That's, I think it's common law marriage, I believe is the term.

01:23:46.540 In some states, yes, that's the case.

01:23:48.480 If you've been holding yourself out to be as if you were married, you're living together,

01:23:52.320 you're cohabitating, then the state could deem you, you weren't legally officially married,

01:23:59.380 but you were acting in such a way that was commensurate to as if you were married, so

01:24:04.560 they're going to consider you legally married, common law marriage.

01:24:09.740 Also-

01:24:10.220 Did you have more on that, though?

01:24:11.940 No, but thank you.

01:24:12.980 Okay, go ahead.

01:24:13.400 I wanted to respond to you and saying like, oh, trust them, and you said, oh, trust them.

01:24:18.460 So like, how many people that share blood with us that we're supposed to trust, maybe

01:24:24.320 our mother or father, or, you know, even someone that we trusted, a partner that we trusted

01:24:29.640 for many years, we feel so secure in that scenario.

01:24:32.980 How many times does that trust fleet away because of some sort of outside factor? 0.99

01:24:42.500 So fucking much. 0.97

01:24:44.320 So even though you're smart, and you had the best intuition, and you had all, you tried 0.99

01:24:48.800 to do everything, buy your book, it still happens. 0.99

01:24:53.040 So trust, you know, shit changes. 1.00

01:24:55.740 Shit changes in time. 1.00

01:24:56.680 People change, people's motives change, people's desires change, so trust is fucking- 1.00

01:25:05.040 Well, it only goes so far. 0.85

01:25:06.220 I just don't think you should, as men- 1.00

01:25:07.640 Trust yourself, number one.

01:25:09.220 Trust is hard.

01:25:10.140 Absent Christianity, there's actually no reason for men to get married. 0.99

01:25:14.900 Or perhaps I can reframe it.

01:25:16.380 But there's no reason for the breadwinner to get married.

01:25:20.240 There's breadwinners, total, total L to get married.

01:25:25.380 Yeah, and here's my question that I kept trying to ask Andrew.

01:25:29.560 He's like, oh, what if you got a waitress and a mechanic?

01:25:33.140 Okay, well, great jobs there. 0.60

01:25:36.940 But you don't know what those people's lives are, what those people's assets are, what money

01:25:42.640 they're going to be getting from family or godfather, mother in the future?

01:25:47.880 Mm-hmm.

01:25:48.060 So he's talking about his own daughter.

01:25:51.060 So, okay, let's say your daughter has a few million coming to her in the future.

01:25:55.820 And this man is, you trust him. 1.00

01:25:58.300 He's just a fucking man, though. 0.99

01:25:59.740 So would it change if his daughter had, let's say, 10 million coming to her? 1.00

01:26:06.380 Well, I think...

01:26:06.940 What?

01:26:07.480 Two, what's really...

01:26:08.260 He's speaking, he's saying, oh, like, because it's to protect the man.

01:26:12.640 He's doing it to protect the man.

01:26:13.660 What about your daughter that might have a lot of money in her name? 1.00

01:26:17.280 That he might want to leave her one day.

01:26:18.900 Exactly.

01:26:19.380 Does he want that money going to him?

01:26:21.140 When you begin a prenup, when you know the paperwork's in action and you're about to

01:26:25.460 get a trust sent to you, you're going to go to a lawyer and get that all taken care

01:26:31.220 of.

01:26:31.800 So, yeah, but you don't need to do it at the beginning of the marriage.

01:26:34.360 You can do it when the money comes.

01:26:35.680 It's the beginning of whatever.

01:26:36.240 Yeah, I agree.

01:26:37.100 It's a prenup.

01:26:37.460 But it's when it comes.

01:26:38.880 You don't need to get it.

01:26:40.800 It's a prenup, and we're all...

01:26:41.480 The whole argument here is that we're pro-prenup, and he's saying...

01:26:45.620 Well, I don't necessarily think that that's his position.

01:26:48.140 You haven't stated your position exactly on whether you're pro or against.

01:26:53.680 Pro for the man, at least.

01:26:55.500 Here's why I consider this a Femcon position. 0.75

01:26:59.760 Everything here that she's talking about is materialist-based.

01:27:04.080 She's talking from specifically a materialist lens.

01:27:07.340 Logic-based lens, but okay.

01:27:09.420 Well, materialist-based lens.

01:27:11.180 Let me finish.

01:27:12.260 I'll explain and express how that's the case.

01:27:14.600 So from my view, right, marriage is a religious institution, and it's designed specifically

01:27:20.660 to be a religious institution.

01:27:23.060 If you want to see the lowest divorce rates, look at the people who are the most religious.

01:27:27.080 That's when you'll find the least divorce is there. 0.88

01:27:30.360 Is that statistically true?

01:27:31.360 Not only statistically true, very statistically true.

01:27:34.540 John Gaumann University.

01:27:35.220 The more often, the more rigorous they practice, the least likely they are to divorce.

01:27:39.980 Okay.

01:27:40.560 From your view, the materialist view...

01:27:42.780 Logical view.

01:27:43.460 Well, it's not...

01:27:44.180 Hang on.

01:27:45.200 If it's the logic...

01:27:46.180 If it's the logical view, then I need this one question answered.

01:27:49.920 Sure.

01:27:50.460 If we're only protecting our stuff, our things, stuff we want, and protecting from the future...

01:27:56.380 You gotta stop...

01:27:57.400 Yeah.

01:27:57.840 Hold on.

01:27:58.440 It's not stuff.

01:27:59.260 It's not material.

01:28:00.020 Hold on.

01:28:00.760 You gotta... 0.99

01:28:01.400 You've been interrupting a fuckton. 0.98

01:28:03.540 Your contributions with your little quips and your little add-ins are not really... 0.96

01:28:11.260 They're not adding substance to the conversation, and it's interrupting.

01:28:15.800 Well, he's calling it what it's not.

01:28:17.060 But just, even if you disagree, let him finish.

01:28:22.020 Just let him finish.

01:28:22.780 You don't need to add in.

01:28:24.020 Go ahead.

01:28:24.620 Continue.

01:28:25.040 And then I'll gauge.

01:28:25.720 I'll gauge with your view.

01:28:26.480 I promise.

01:28:27.900 If that's the case, and it's just material, and you say it's logical, it's logical for

01:28:32.160 you to want to keep material separation in case bad things happen. 0.95

01:28:35.020 What the fuck is the point of getting married at all? 0.97

01:28:37.860 If you're going to sign a contract with the state, if you're preventing the state from 0.99

01:28:40.880 coming in and dividing assets by having other contracts, why not just use the secular

01:28:46.780 method and just have all of those things absent the state contract?

01:28:53.120 I actually...

01:28:53.960 That would be the most logical thing.

01:28:56.240 So unless you can explain to me what it is you're going to get out of a marriage that

01:29:00.160 two people can't just agree to, right?

01:29:02.540 Absent the religious qualia, then I want to hear it.

01:29:05.580 What?

01:29:06.280 Yeah.

01:29:07.340 So you're arguing then that there's...

01:29:10.600 You're arguing against reality.

01:29:12.980 So you're denying reality.

01:29:14.340 And the reality that we live in is that marriage is not just a religious institution now.

01:29:19.280 It is also a financial agreement and a long-term life contract.

01:29:23.540 Then why do it?

01:29:24.980 Right?

01:29:25.440 Why do it?

01:29:26.920 Are you asking me why I would do it?

01:29:28.260 I'm asking you, what would be the point if it's the case that you see marriage as being

01:29:33.600 a long-form financial partnership with another person, right, that you want to protect yourself

01:29:39.580 from the state dividing your assets with that person, potentially leaving you with nothing?

01:29:43.320 No.

01:29:43.640 Why get married at all?

01:29:45.900 You can still do...

01:29:46.920 You can live in the same house with them.

01:29:49.120 You can raise the kids the same exact way.

01:29:51.020 You need a prenup. 0.99

01:29:52.180 It'd be good to have a prenup.

01:29:53.260 And why do you need to have a prenup if you just don't get married? 1.00

01:29:58.080 Because in a prenup, you could write down a cheating clause, which I would have, right?

01:30:02.840 I want a prenup to make my marriage stronger in the future.

01:30:06.640 Why are you getting married, though?

01:30:08.100 So you cheat, I cheat.

01:30:10.160 That is going to be bad for the both of us, right?

01:30:12.420 But why are you getting married in the first place?

01:30:14.440 Because you want somebody to spend your life with.

01:30:16.620 You can do that without the marriage.

01:30:18.420 No.

01:30:18.680 Why not?

01:30:19.680 Why?

01:30:20.200 Because that is not...

01:30:21.320 Where's the contraband?

01:30:22.100 Is it logically possible?

01:30:23.520 Is it logically...

01:30:24.400 Yeah.

01:30:24.700 Then what are you talking about?

01:30:26.020 What's the logical guess?

01:30:26.700 Why did you get married then?

01:30:28.020 Huh?

01:30:28.360 Well, I'm religious.

01:30:29.480 I just told you it's a religious institution.

01:30:31.560 But it's also a financial commitment, right?

01:30:34.220 Yeah, but if you're not looking at it...

01:30:36.000 So why didn't you just get married in the church?

01:30:37.780 Because...

01:30:38.260 Are you legal?

01:30:38.580 I did.

01:30:39.020 I did.

01:30:39.920 I did get married in the church.

01:30:41.360 Are you legally married?

01:30:42.080 Part of getting married in the church is that you get legally married.

01:30:45.040 Yes.

01:30:45.300 Are you legally...

01:30:45.560 Yes, both.

01:30:46.000 So why did you get the marriage license?

01:30:48.160 For me...

01:30:48.860 Why did you get legally married?

01:30:50.160 Yeah.

01:30:50.560 You have to.

01:30:50.980 And not just married in the church.

01:30:51.840 Jill, I'll explain.

01:30:53.320 Okay.

01:30:53.640 But I just want to let you know you still haven't answered my question.

01:30:55.840 But I'll explain.

01:30:56.740 Yes.

01:30:56.920 But I want to promise you to answer mine afterwards.

01:30:58.540 Sure.

01:30:58.980 A lot of churches cannot actually marry you legally without utilizing the state.

01:31:04.740 Okay.

01:31:05.200 And also, I was not...

01:31:06.300 So they're intertwined.

01:31:07.180 I was not, when I got married, which was so many years ago, as rigorous as I am now.

01:31:11.840 I didn't even understand half of these things.

01:31:13.700 That's first.

01:31:14.500 Okay.

01:31:14.960 The second thing is, if I was only looking from the materialist view, though, it's a financial...

01:31:20.720 It's financial.

01:31:21.440 It's financial.

01:31:22.060 Okay?

01:31:22.400 The realistic view.

01:31:22.940 I'm a realist.

01:31:23.060 Sure.

01:31:23.320 The realistic view.

01:31:24.860 Realistically explain to me what you're going to get out of the marriage that you're not

01:31:29.860 going to get not marriage.

01:31:32.120 What?

01:31:32.720 Okay.

01:31:33.140 If I am not married, and I'm living with a person long-term, and we have shared financial

01:31:39.580 assets, right?

01:31:40.620 Yeah.

01:31:40.880 And one of us decides to hurt the other, betray the other, or anything, and now we want

01:31:45.380 to split, right?

01:31:46.780 As a result of that.

01:31:48.760 Now we both have to go to court.

01:31:50.280 Now I have to hire a lawyer.

01:31:51.740 Now I have to create a mess out of my life just to leave that relationship.

01:31:55.820 If we have kids, it's extremely complicated as well.

01:31:58.480 Wait, I'm...

01:31:59.060 What?

01:31:59.400 Let me finish my answer.

01:32:01.060 If you do have a legal contract in place that talks about if those things were to happen

01:32:07.020 and God hoping that it doesn't, right?

01:32:09.700 Then we have a...

01:32:10.720 I have a plan of action.

01:32:12.280 This is what happens, right?

01:32:14.100 And I...

01:32:14.960 Why is marriage necessary to any of that?

01:32:17.320 Can I give you...

01:32:18.060 Hang on.

01:32:18.420 Let her finish. 0.98

01:32:19.540 Why is marriage... 0.93

01:32:20.220 Why is marriage necessary for you to have a contract with somebody that they can't take

01:32:23.680 your stuff?

01:32:24.460 Why can't you have a contract with a person on what you're going to do absent marriage?

01:32:28.480 So you want people to...

01:32:30.260 I'm not...

01:32:30.460 It's not what I want.

01:32:31.260 I'm asking you a question.

01:32:32.340 Why?

01:32:33.280 Because, again, marriage is a legal contract and it is a...

01:32:38.560 It is an institution that basically is ingrained in our society and children...

01:32:44.100 That's not giving me the reason why you need to get married. 0.57

01:32:46.180 Children that come from married households do better.

01:32:49.460 Period.

01:32:49.800 Is that because of the marriage or is that because it's a mom and dad in the same household?

01:32:53.960 Do you think a mom and dad in the same household...

01:32:55.080 Don't ask me a question.

01:32:56.280 Answer my question.

01:32:57.060 Wait, do you think...

01:32:58.080 Answer the question first.

01:32:59.420 You have to let me answer how I want.

01:33:00.880 You don't get to tell me how to answer it.

01:33:01.500 Asking me a question is not answering it.

01:33:03.600 You don't get to tell me how I answer the question.

01:33:04.840 Okay, so we're just going to...

01:33:06.040 I'm just going to answer all your questions with questions then?

01:33:08.080 You can.

01:33:08.620 I think it's fair for you to answer the question, please.

01:33:10.520 Yes.

01:33:10.880 And then answer it.

01:33:11.900 So you're trying to compare.

01:33:13.900 You're trying to say that kids that are raised in a household where the parents are

01:33:18.900 legally married do the same or have the same advantage as kids that are raised in a household

01:33:24.420 where the parents are together but not legally married.

01:33:26.720 Can you tell me what the difference would be?

01:33:28.280 The difference is, statistically speaking, the ones that are married do better.

01:33:31.480 Yeah, but what would that have to do with a certificate with the state?

01:33:34.380 You tell me the correlation.

01:33:35.580 I'm asking you.

01:33:36.720 I'm just telling you the facts.

01:33:37.680 Yeah, but why, though?

01:33:38.880 Why couldn't you have the...

01:33:40.360 Why is it?

01:33:40.380 From a secular view, why couldn't you have the exact...

01:33:42.880 Here's why.

01:33:43.400 I'll tell you why.

01:33:44.040 You tell me why.

01:33:44.780 So the reason that you generally see inside of married households the outcomes being better

01:33:49.580 for the kids because it's tied to religion almost every single time.

01:33:52.800 The outcomes are way better for the kids because it's tied to religion. 0.68

01:33:55.540 If you're talking about a purely secular household...

01:33:58.000 Like mother and father or boyfriend-girlfriend for 20 years, why do the kids from that union

01:34:04.880 do a lot less better than the people that are married?

01:34:09.300 Because if they're religious, they don't live like that. 1.00

01:34:13.040 They get married.

01:34:14.340 If they're not religious, they live like that, right? 1.00

01:34:17.140 And they don't institute the religion.

01:34:19.040 So you're saying most marriages are religious?

01:34:20.760 And that's the...

01:34:21.360 No, most marriages are not, which is why so many of them fail at high, high, high rates.

01:34:28.460 And so the thing is, is like, this doesn't even...

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01:35:30.760 Answer my question.

01:35:31.620 We're both trying to prevent marriages from failing.

01:35:32.960 Yeah, but I still need to know why it would be that you need to get married at all under your worldview here.

01:35:39.160 Look, we're both trying to stop.

01:35:39.800 If the worldview is...

01:35:40.720 Okay.

01:35:41.340 Can you stop?

01:35:41.720 No, no, I wasn't...

01:35:42.460 I just actually was thinking of a point to make, but I didn't do that.

01:35:46.380 If the worldview here is just that you want to have a contract with somebody and live with them,

01:35:52.240 and that's going to create better outcomes for the kid...

01:35:54.400 Somehow it does.

01:35:55.580 You don't actually...

01:35:57.520 You're not telling me why it would be that you would need to get married through the state at all.

01:36:02.040 Well, we're both trying to, right, get more people married and to stay married longer.

01:36:06.260 Yeah, but what would be the point?

01:36:07.320 Your argument is that they need to be religious, 0.95

01:36:09.700 and my argument is they should sign a freaking paper and talk about the hard stuff together. 0.64

01:36:13.820 Which is easier to convert people or to sign a... 0.76

01:36:18.780 My argument here is that under your worldview,

01:36:21.640 there would be no reason to actually get married through the state,

01:36:25.300 and you have not provided me a single one.

01:36:27.600 I have provided so many.

01:36:29.040 Give me one that you can't have without the state involved.

01:36:32.880 Give me one.

01:36:33.520 One thing that you're getting from the state you can't just do.

01:36:35.920 If you go to a hospital, right, and your partner in life gets sick or hurt,

01:36:41.680 you have nothing to prove that you are their partner, so they can't...

01:36:45.200 You can just do an advanced medical directive.

01:36:47.100 So that's one way...

01:36:47.640 You asked for an example, and I just gave you one, right?

01:36:50.920 That's advanced medical directive.

01:36:52.220 You don't need marriage for that. 0.59

01:36:54.300 Here's what I have to do, just because we have a lot of people on the panel.

01:36:56.920 If you asked for an example, I gave it to you.

01:36:58.580 I want to make sure that we can get other people...

01:37:00.600 Hold on.

01:37:00.960 I want to make sure we can get other people pulled in.

01:37:02.820 Here's what I'll do.

01:37:03.720 I'll give you each one minute to finalize your point on this,

01:37:08.780 and then I do have to move on.

01:37:09.820 Okay.

01:37:12.140 And then time permitting, if we want to revisit it later,

01:37:14.700 I just want to make sure...

01:37:15.380 So I'll finalize it super quick, right?

01:37:17.920 This is a very common feminist trope. 1.00

01:37:19.760 It's a very common feminist FemCon trope. 1.00

01:37:21.640 The idea is actually it's going to elevate women. 1.00

01:37:23.680 That's the whole point.

01:37:24.500 They're trying to secure the fact that there's going to be failure.

01:37:27.140 They can take the man for everything.

01:37:28.740 That's what the whole point is.

01:37:30.300 And by the way, let me point this out very quickly.

01:37:34.240 She never made a single argument ever

01:37:37.480 for what you would be getting in this relationship,

01:37:40.440 married versus unmarried.

01:37:42.280 She just keeps saying that they should get married

01:37:44.200 for reasons that she can't even explain.

01:37:47.420 So advanced medical directives, you can have that without marriage. 0.99

01:37:50.260 You don't need marriage for any of these things.

01:37:52.360 So if you're not religious,

01:37:53.600 what is even the point?

01:37:55.560 Whoa, whoa, whoa.

01:37:56.060 What are you doing?

01:37:57.400 That's all.

01:37:58.120 Can you get what?

01:37:58.800 Can I...

01:37:59.240 Yeah, yeah, sure.

01:38:00.140 But hang on, hang on.

01:38:00.780 Can I give a reason?

01:38:01.280 I've asked like three times.

01:38:02.100 We'll let her close up though real quick. 1.00

01:38:03.580 We'll let her close up. 0.89

01:38:04.980 Can you stop interrupting, please?

01:38:07.440 I thought it was polite.

01:38:08.520 Sorry.

01:38:09.080 Huh?

01:38:09.460 I thought it was polite.

01:38:10.520 Sorry.

01:38:10.920 Just...

01:38:11.920 Maybe a hand raise might be better.

01:38:15.120 Sure.

01:38:15.460 Go ahead.

01:38:16.420 Me?

01:38:16.840 On the last final words?

01:38:17.340 Are you done?

01:38:18.160 I'm done.

01:38:18.620 I'm done.

01:38:18.780 Okay, so again, I think that the benefit of marriage is somebody to witness your life

01:38:23.900 with, to do life with, to make life easier with, and love is the number one component

01:38:29.480 that should bring in people together.

01:38:31.800 But I live in reality, right?

01:38:33.980 And reality means that I want to be protected.

01:38:37.720 I want my partner to be protected.

01:38:39.660 I want us to go into a marriage for the right reasons, and I want to set a good example for

01:38:43.840 my kids and make sure that they are taken care of.

01:38:46.860 God forbid something happens.

01:38:48.960 That's it.

01:38:49.940 Okay.

01:38:50.500 Super feminist.

01:38:51.380 Okay.

01:38:51.640 You're...

01:38:52.120 Wait, actually, really quick.

01:38:53.060 I have a chat coming in.

01:38:54.640 Hide the super.

01:38:55.780 Charles Sterling donated $200.

01:38:58.660 Thank you, Charles.

01:38:59.080 Good to see you again, Mr. Wilson.

01:39:01.460 Prenup is to only protect your wealth, not to protect community property.

01:39:05.680 Yeah.

01:39:05.840 Share two common lois after you've been living together for seven years.

01:39:09.980 I think...

01:39:10.240 Thank you, Charles.

01:39:10.720 I think some states, it could be lower than that, or they lowered it, but I'm not sure.

01:39:15.720 It can vary.

01:39:16.680 Yeah, it varies.

01:39:17.360 Okay, you wanted to go...

01:39:18.400 Yeah, I was just simply going to say, because he keeps asking, why get married?

01:39:21.600 Why get married?

01:39:22.520 So, simply, just to up-level your commitment.

01:39:26.120 It's a spiritual thing as well.

01:39:28.340 I agree.

01:39:29.220 In fact, I would say it's only a spiritual thing.

01:39:31.700 So, the thing is, is like, if you're going to up-level...

01:39:33.120 A lot of men's Christian.

01:39:33.780 If you're going to up-level your commitment, why do you want a prenup again?

01:39:38.360 Because if I'm going to be making that commitment, I want a prenup for protection.

01:39:42.760 And what that prenup resembles, it's a reflection on those difficult conversations that you can have and that relationship that you have with your partner and yourself.

01:39:51.760 Then why are you getting...

01:39:53.100 Why get married at all?

01:39:54.480 Because I love someone.

01:39:55.620 Yeah, but what's preventing you from loving them?

01:39:58.140 Because I want to up-level that commitment.

01:40:00.720 I want to solidify that commitment in a way that involves more than just me and them.

01:40:08.080 So, you want the state to now get involved?

01:40:10.340 Sure.

01:40:10.940 It is involved, whether you like or not.

01:40:11.980 Right.

01:40:12.580 Wait, do you think...

01:40:13.400 Do you think so people do make that commitment, they go to the state, they get the marriage license?

01:40:17.540 Do you think that this precludes people from splitting up?

01:40:21.360 Because what I see...

01:40:22.420 It doesn't have to do with splitting up.

01:40:23.560 It just seems to me like it's protection for you.

01:40:25.980 It's with the intention that you're not splitting up.

01:40:28.780 Actually, I think...

01:40:29.540 So, for example, I think it creates...

01:40:31.380 Say, obviously, people can have two incomes in a relationship.

01:40:35.900 And perhaps in a scenario, you guys both have perfectly equal equivalent income and resources and finances.

01:40:43.000 But typically, you're going to see one person having more resources, more money, higher income than the other.

01:40:48.100 It seems like it actually creates an incentive for the person who makes less money.

01:40:54.780 It actually starts giving them a financial incentive to leave the relationship because there's a financial incentive when you get married.

01:41:03.400 But you're getting a prenup.

01:41:04.880 Yeah, right.

01:41:05.560 You're getting the prenup.

01:41:06.340 So, do we agree, though, that prenups aren't going to cover kids, right?

01:41:10.080 Why?

01:41:11.080 Well, prenups aren't.

01:41:11.820 Because the state will come in even on a prenup for kids in order to divide up kids. 0.97

01:41:19.140 Well, I'm talking about...

01:41:19.860 For financial...

01:41:19.980 We have that included as well.

01:41:21.860 My understanding, and Brian, pull this up, but a prenup does not facilitate custodial rights even at divorce.

01:41:30.540 I don't believe that that's the case.

01:41:31.920 Yeah, I'm not sure about that.

01:41:33.360 I think you can maybe arrange...

01:41:35.000 Something.

01:41:35.500 You can have something arranged there.

01:41:37.340 But my understanding with prenups, it can address that which...

01:41:42.660 The assets prior to marriage, but I don't think prenups can address the community property...

01:41:47.540 Those are post-nups.

01:41:48.380 ...or it can't address that which was accrued during the course of the marriage.

01:41:53.440 Post-nups.

01:41:53.760 I think I could be a bit wrong.

01:41:55.780 I do want to move the topic on a little bit, time permitting.

01:41:57.960 Of course, we can return to it.

01:42:00.720 I think this all kind of kicked off when we were talking about raw meat over here.

01:42:05.320 I just have one quick question.

01:42:08.300 Okay, what's up?

01:42:10.260 As somebody that kind of has your position on this, on prenups, the only argument that I've heard, the strongest one, is like, okay, well, why do you get car insurance and then you still drive?

01:42:21.160 Why do you get health insurance and you still go outside?

01:42:24.180 My position is not, don't get a prenup.

01:42:26.720 Right.

01:42:27.300 The position...

01:42:27.640 Wait, what?

01:42:28.340 Yeah.

01:42:28.800 Wait.

01:42:29.360 That's what I'm saying. 0.99

01:42:30.140 The position is simply, what in the fuck is the point of the marriage if the idea here is we need prenups to protect assets, that's what our primary goal is, what the fuck do you even want to get married for then? 0.99

01:42:45.360 Custody. 0.98

01:42:46.060 No, but I'm saying, like, the argument that...

01:42:48.140 You'll still get custody.

01:42:49.220 No, I'm talking about second marriage.

01:42:51.720 When you have a second marriage with a new person and they are actively fighting to get custody for their children is a reason, and it happens way or more often than you think.

01:43:02.800 Because some states...

01:43:03.420 Well, what do you mean?

01:43:03.980 Some states, some chancery courts require, if you're going to have custody with a new person in the home living with a child and you want to show stability and you want to prove to the court that you are a stable parent, you have to legally get married to benefit that.

01:43:22.720 Because I agree with you and I agree with you because I was with you even as a religious person because what is the point?

01:43:30.360 However, when you're put in positions with an outside parent with children, it gets convoluted and the court wants these...

01:43:41.700 I'm sorry, I have to move this on off of the prenup stuff.

01:43:45.800 Off to another topic.

01:43:47.960 Ivy?

01:43:49.420 Ivy?

01:43:50.140 Yes.

01:43:50.320 Ivy.

01:43:51.660 You write a disagreement that you have with the show is that sex workers...

01:43:56.320 Or your disagreement is that about sex workers not deserving chivalry.

01:44:01.960 So you believe sex workers do deserve chivalry.

01:44:04.780 However, I've said on the show, I don't believe that sex workers or beyond just sex workers, even if a woman's not a sex worker, but if she's not a lady, so to speak, if she's not trad, she doesn't deserve chivalry. 0.61

01:44:18.200 What's your disagreement?

01:44:19.100 I think that every woman deserves chivalry if they're connecting with someone, yeah. 1.00

01:44:24.500 But if it's connecting, like on a level of understanding where they are reciprocating each other's values.

01:44:31.200 Okay.

01:44:31.580 And not everyone's going to have the same moral values.

01:44:35.180 Not every man is the same.

01:44:36.520 So why do women in general deserve chivalry? 1.00

01:44:40.700 I think that...

01:44:42.500 I think it's just basic respect.

01:44:44.980 And I think it's...

01:44:45.560 Yeah, it's traditional, but I think it's...

01:44:47.120 But hold on.

01:44:47.460 Can you respect a woman and not provide or do chivalry? 0.99

01:44:51.760 I guess it depends on the relationship dynamic, like what you prefer.

01:44:59.540 But I do think that we all deserve to respect each other and to like...

01:45:03.580 Sorry, continue, continue.

01:45:06.260 I think we deserve to respect each other and to provide like basic human respect, like decency.

01:45:11.520 Like if...

01:45:12.240 I don't expect my boyfriend to open the door all the time.

01:45:15.520 But if he wants to do it, it's nice.

01:45:18.000 What are some other...

01:45:20.000 Can you list some of the ways in which men are specifically chivalrous?

01:45:26.480 Do I have to repeat myself?

01:45:28.020 Can you list some of the ways that men are specifically chivalrous?

01:45:33.560 I guess chivalry is also like...

01:45:35.780 I can't necessarily like list it as a structure, like a set structure, like a certain way to do it.

01:45:41.700 Because what some would deem chivalrous could also be insulting to others.

01:45:46.580 Well, you would agree with me, though, when we're talking about chivalry.

01:45:50.620 Chivalry is something that men do or provide in the direction of women. 0.84

01:45:56.480 It's not ever the reverse, where women are acting in a chivalrous manner towards men. 0.94

01:46:01.260 You'd agree with that?

01:46:01.980 I'm sorry, could you repeat that?

01:46:08.800 Like the last part?

01:46:09.820 Repeat it?

01:46:10.100 Yes.

01:46:11.500 I just said it.

01:46:13.000 Okay.

01:46:14.300 You would agree that chivalry is something men do?

01:46:20.340 I don't necessarily think that women can't be chivalrous, so no. 1.00

01:46:25.000 Well, yes, logically they could.

01:46:26.480 So, for example, if chivalry is opening the car door and paying for the first date, yes, logically a woman could do that. 1.00

01:46:32.460 But typically the expectation is not on women to do that. 1.00

01:46:35.420 And they overwhelmingly don't do that.

01:46:37.740 You wanted to give examples of chivalry?

01:46:40.100 Yes.

01:46:40.520 The opening of the car door, paying for the first date, walking on the side of the road where the car's...

01:46:46.200 The sidewalk rule.

01:46:46.640 Yes.

01:46:47.360 Okay.

01:46:48.060 Why should men do that? 0.82

01:46:50.060 Because they are the biologically stronger sex.

01:46:53.640 So what do men get out of that? 0.71

01:46:55.280 They get the feel...

01:46:58.000 They get to feel good that they are protecting their woman. 0.89

01:47:00.440 They get to feel good that they die. 0.81

01:47:01.340 How nice for them. 0.64

01:47:02.200 Okay.

01:47:02.640 That's great. 1.00

01:47:03.820 Die. 1.00

01:47:04.540 How nice for them.

01:47:06.220 Can we clarify definitions as to what you think chivalry is versus respect is when talking about how you treat a person with respect versus chivalry?

01:47:14.880 Yeah.

01:47:15.140 So chivalry would typically be something that's...

01:47:17.820 It is specifically gendered.

01:47:19.300 It's specifically man to woman.

01:47:21.720 Okay.

01:47:22.000 It's almost never woman to man.

01:47:23.900 You never hear either men saying, I'd like a woman who's chivalrous. 1.00

01:47:27.040 You never hear women say, I'm chivalrous.

01:47:30.020 So chivalry would be typically the more gendered expectations of men.

01:47:34.760 And those would typically be observing the sidewalk rule where the man walks closer to the road, paying for first dates.

01:47:41.920 You could even extend that to being uniquely the provider in the relationship, uniquely paying for things in the relationship, protector, being the protector, opening the car door, these sorts of things.

01:47:54.320 I would consider that chivalry, whereas respect would be we would all agree that, for example, if we go on a date with somebody, we shouldn't insult them, and that would be symmetrical.

01:48:04.900 That would flow both ways.

01:48:07.120 We should be polite.

01:48:08.240 We shouldn't be insulting.

01:48:09.580 That's something both men and women can do.

01:48:12.260 Respect can flow both ways.

01:48:13.820 Because chivalry flows from men to women.

01:48:16.240 Okay.

01:48:16.820 And just, again, question.

01:48:19.500 So the question, what we're talking about here is whether sex workers should be treated with chivalry versus respect.

01:48:26.960 So what are we arguing here?

01:48:29.360 Like, do you think that they should be treated with respect, as in like just like a normal person?

01:48:34.000 Yeah.

01:48:34.240 So I take it beyond just sex worker. 0.83

01:48:36.160 I take it to because a woman could not be a lady, so to speak, and not be a sex worker. 1.00

01:48:42.780 So a woman could just be very modest in her dress. 0.98

01:48:47.080 She could be highly promiscuous. 1.00

01:48:48.320 She could be dating multiple men at once. 0.87

01:48:50.380 She could be polyamorous, but not a sex worker. 1.00

01:48:52.800 She could be sleeping with multiple men at the same time. 0.99

01:48:55.100 I think if we're going to have an expectation that men are gentlemen, the woman should not show up on the date with another man's seed inside of her. 1.00

01:49:02.080 Like, I'm not going to pay – I don't think a man should pay for a woman on the date, be the gentleman, when there's literally another man's seed oozing out of her. 0.96

01:49:11.660 That's not very becoming –

01:49:13.100 Very graphic.

01:49:13.300 Very graphic.

01:49:13.720 Well, it's graphic, but it's true.

01:49:15.500 Hot sauce.

01:49:16.200 And it's – what I'm trying to get at here is –

01:49:17.840 I agree.

01:49:18.120 So sex workers, by virtue of them being involved in sex work, are not ladies. 1.00

01:49:23.800 But, again, it extends beyond just sex work.

01:49:26.140 A woman could just not be deserving of chivalry. 1.00

01:49:29.860 So my position is simply if you're a sex worker – look, by the way, just to be clear, I acknowledge that sex workers are even nontraditional women.

01:49:38.960 They can still receive the – they still receive the treatment.

01:49:44.080 Like, for example, men paying for first dates, doing all that gentlemanly kind of stuff.

01:49:48.140 They still receive it.

01:49:49.180 But if I'm looking at the chessboard, the landscape, the hellscape of dating, I have a bird's eye view of what's going on.

01:49:54.940 I can point to that and be like, that's not fair.

01:49:57.920 That's a raw deal for men.

01:49:59.560 Women aren't holding up their end of the deal. 1.00

01:50:02.660 Now, of course, men do – there's a term in video games called meta, most effective tactics available.

01:50:09.200 And reality is whether the woman is the most traditional woman in the world or the biggest whore in the world, the most effective tactics available for men in terms of getting said woman, regardless of who she is, is actually chivalrous. 0.86

01:50:22.420 So even feminist women, even sex workers, even non-ladies, it is still most effective to be trad as a man in terms of paying for dates, opening the car door, doing all these chivalrous behaviors, etc., etc. 0.83

01:50:38.960 What is a lady to you? 1.00

01:50:41.320 Yeah, so a lady would be sort of the – 1.00

01:50:43.840 I've been curious about this.

01:50:45.060 What is your ideal type?

01:50:46.500 Like, if you had to –

01:50:47.200 Well, let me answer her question before I get to you.

01:50:49.100 I thought it was the same question, basically.

01:50:50.800 Yeah, well, I mean –

01:50:52.360 No, that doesn't have anything to do with type.

01:50:54.140 Not entirely.

01:50:55.180 But so, yeah, what is a lady? 1.00

01:50:57.220 The lady would be the commensurate to whatever – well, excuse me, not commensurate.

01:51:02.320 You have gentlemen and you have ladies.

01:51:04.680 So gentlemen would be showing some degree of chivalry.

01:51:07.200 A lady would be a woman who, let's see, takes on – look, and I believe being traditional to degrees of spectrum.

01:51:14.800 I don't think it's either you're fully trad or you're not.

01:51:17.360 I think you can land on a bit of a spectrum.

01:51:20.700 But more trad – to be a lady, you're more trad than not trad, right? 0.52

01:51:26.280 So, for example, like a woman who's not a virgin, can she be a lady?

01:51:30.080 Yes.

01:51:30.380 But, like, the ultimate manifestation of a lady might be she has, like, traditional value set, she's virgin, she's not promiscuous, she's modest, et cetera, et cetera. 1.00

01:51:41.900 And what would not be a lady is a woman who's a stripper, is a woman who does romance scams on men, is a woman who posts nude content online, is a woman who fucks men on camera, is a woman who sells her pussy, is a woman who is a prostitute, is a woman who posts her butthole and other – whatever – on the internet. 1.00

01:52:04.280 Yeah, a woman who – a woman that's – 1.00

01:52:07.620 That's bad, too. 0.76

01:52:08.540 That's getting into the realm of sex work. 0.76

01:52:10.220 So, yeah, you're not quite a lady. 1.00

01:52:12.080 An easy way maybe to down this would be –

01:52:14.140 To you, though, not every single man is going to view it like that, but that's your personal preference.

01:52:18.700 Yeah, I'm just, like, making – I'm just stating that.

01:52:20.660 Like, that's your personal preference on how you date.

01:52:22.660 Not every single man is going to view a lady the same.

01:52:24.640 Well, the universals are tied to virtues.

01:52:26.400 That's where we would get the idea.

01:52:28.980 So if we wanted to say what is a lady, we would say one who typifies feminine virtue, and what is a gentleman would be one who typifies male virtue.

01:52:38.180 Yes.

01:52:38.700 What I deem a gentleman, though, could be completely different to what you deem a gentleman.

01:52:42.920 That's true, but the thing is –

01:52:45.000 In my eyes – I'm sorry.

01:52:45.880 In my eyes, like, y'all could be considered not gentlemen just as I couldn't be a lady.

01:52:51.360 But it doesn't necessarily mean that's the truth.

01:52:53.580 But we have a shared language.

01:52:54.960 Well, and virtue attracts virtue.

01:52:56.400 So the idea is, like, if somebody's not being very gentlemanly towards you, chances are pretty good you're not being very ladylike towards them.

01:53:04.260 Or they don't see you as being ladylike and therefore not worthy of gentlemanness.

01:53:07.800 Or the opposite.

01:53:09.200 You don't see them as being very worthy of being ladylike, right, because of the virtue attraction.

01:53:17.020 So it's the same type of thing.

01:53:19.340 So if we're talking, for instance, in traditional American society coming over from what was going on in Western Europe, chivalry was like an old medieval concept, right?

01:53:30.760 And the idea was like, oh, my lady, I'll give you this kerchief, you know, and win this duel for you so I can win your hand.

01:53:37.740 They're trying to exemplify male virtues. 0.99

01:53:40.660 That way they can – and this was all romance shit. 0.99

01:53:43.500 And there's a whole story behind it, but it doesn't matter. 0.98

01:53:45.060 The idea here is, like, you're not going to see women put their jacket on the ground so that a man can walk through the puddle without getting his feet wet, right? 0.80

01:53:53.800 That was because of long dresses. 1.00

01:53:55.340 Long dresses would flow on the ground. 0.97

01:53:56.860 They didn't want to get them wet or muddy.

01:53:58.200 So he would put his jacket down.

01:53:59.880 Then the woman could go over it. 1.00

01:54:01.860 So that's the idea of gentlemanly-like behavior versus ladylike behavior.

01:54:09.080 So two things.

01:54:11.400 Question.

01:54:12.620 So when it comes to a relationship, is there a person who first shows the chivalry or being ladylike?

01:54:22.960 Like if she automatically isn't –

01:54:25.040 This is a great question, and the answer to this is actually simple.

01:54:28.400 So people's personality traits are often typified in their presentation, right?

01:54:33.120 So while it's correct, you could have, like, a pretty lady situation where you have a prostitute who's dressed in a flower dress and you don't know anything about her.

01:54:41.980 You could assume that, you know, she's a lady or she's worthy of gentlemanliness or this or that.

01:54:50.080 The other hand, if they show up wearing fishnet stockings and a low-cut dress, you may instantly make the assumption, ah, probably not very ladylike, not going to be very gentlemanly towards them, right?

01:54:59.400 So it seems like virtues tend to present themselves in behavior and in aesthetics.

01:55:04.720 And second thing, just – sorry, I just got so distracted.

01:55:09.780 Sorry, go ahead.

01:55:10.820 I got something here really quick.

01:55:12.440 So you do OnlyFans, is that correct?

01:55:14.480 Yes.

01:55:14.820 Do you do traditional – like, do you do boy-girl content?

01:55:18.640 I do, yes. 0.99

01:55:19.360 Okay, so is it plausible or possible that you could go on a date with a guy and earlier on in the day you were being fucked by another man? 0.99

01:55:27.780 I do it with my boyfriend. 0.98

01:55:29.700 I've only really done it with, like –

01:55:31.800 You've only done boy-girl content with your current boyfriend?

01:55:34.640 No, with, like, boyfriends, like, partners that I've been really close – I have done collaborations with, like –

01:55:40.180 Then I won't use you specifically.

01:55:42.020 Well, you've done collaborations with guys who did not become your boyfriend or were not your boyfriend.

01:55:46.180 Yeah, I've done, like, one or two.

01:55:47.560 Okay, so for those collaborations, the next day, did you go on a date with a guy?

01:55:54.760 They did take me on dates.

01:55:55.940 They treated me.

01:55:56.500 Wait, not the guy you shot with?

01:55:59.340 Yeah, no.

01:55:59.800 I'm talking, like –

01:56:00.760 Oh, no.

01:56:01.040 Okay, you shoot with a guy, and then the next day you go on a date with a completely separate civilian man.

01:56:08.480 No.

01:56:08.920 Okay, but you realize it could – like, that could possibly be true.

01:56:12.760 Like, that could happen.

01:56:13.420 It definitely is true, and I respect other content creators and, like, what they do with their bodies, but that's just not how I roll pretty much.

01:56:21.220 Like, it's not my –

01:56:22.600 Right, but so – and that's only one example I'm giving, but for example, I mean, would you agree with me that – do you think – let's say a sex worker goes on a date with a man, and then earlier in that day – let's say she's a porn star.

01:56:37.280 She had a gang ping with, like, 10 dudes, and she goes on a date with, like, this civilian guy who's, like, a bus driver and not a sex worker.

01:56:48.440 Do you think that that bus driver guy should pay for her? 0.61

01:56:54.500 It's the Family and Friends event at Shoppers Drug Mart.

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01:57:10.760 Pay for the date.

01:57:11.860 I think he definitely should understand exactly what he's doing by dating a sex worker, like, by, like, opening up to, like, that possibility pretty much.

01:57:21.840 Well, he should – look, if you're a man who's inclined –

01:57:24.780 I do think she still deserves that.

01:57:26.240 Well, hold on.

01:57:26.780 If you're a man who's inclined to date a sex worker –

01:57:30.200 Question.

01:57:31.500 Question.

01:57:32.080 Hold on.

01:57:32.560 Hold on.

01:57:32.800 If you're a man who's inclined to date a sex worker and she's disclosed what the deal is, I mean, you can't really complain about the situation.

01:57:44.900 However, again, if we're doing a bird's-eye view looking down at the chessboard, do you genuinely –

01:57:52.260 Okay, so if there's an expectation on men to be trad, it would occur to me that there should be some expectation on women to also be trad in some way.

01:58:01.640 So it's like if you just got stuffed by ten dudes earlier in the day, yeah, you don't deserve a man to pay for your dinner.

01:58:09.540 If that's what he wants to do with his money, then that's what he is allowed to do with his money.

01:58:14.980 Oh, I understand.

01:58:15.780 Trust me.

01:58:16.400 I understand that these men, even though women are the least deserving of chivalry than at any other point in human history, I understand there's plenty of men.

01:58:25.280 You disagree with that?

01:58:26.540 Yes.

01:58:26.620 I disagree with that.

01:58:27.480 Hold on.

01:58:27.780 I have a question.

01:58:28.460 Do you think women are more deserving of chivalry now than they were a hundred years ago? 1.00

01:58:32.740 Just the same?

01:58:33.560 Or in the 1950s?

01:58:34.940 Okay, so let's talk about statistics.

01:58:36.800 Right now in this table, we have gathered less than 0.1% of the population.

01:58:42.600 You know, it's women that are sex workers, and again, I'm not going after you ladies, but they're 0.1% of the population, yet men are the primary consumption of pornography and the work that they do. 1.00

01:58:56.220 In fact, the majority of men are the ones that consume what it is that they do.

01:59:01.140 And I take issue with that, too.

01:59:02.680 That's not even correct, though.

01:59:03.280 So you can't say, then, that we are at a point in time that women deserve the least amount of chivalry.

01:59:08.880 Wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on.

01:59:09.980 But I don't see how that, you pointing, that's a great red herring.

01:59:14.000 I don't see how that would relate, though, to my point.

01:59:16.200 Well, because women that have done sex work have always existed throughout history, and they have always been a small percentage of the population, just like we are doing so right now, Brian.

01:59:27.860 Well, there's a couple other things here.

01:59:29.400 So if you recall, my argument wasn't exclusively related to sex workers.

01:59:34.340 It was also with, like, population-wide promiscuity.

01:59:37.280 Do you think women are more promiscuous now in 2026 than they were in the 1940s? 0.98

01:59:42.000 I don't know.

01:59:42.860 We don't have, because we don't have studies on that.

01:59:45.960 How would, wait, hold on.

01:59:46.920 We don't have studies or statistics on that, and I don't like to.

01:59:49.740 You like logic, right?

01:59:51.240 Okay, so if it's the case that people were having lots and lots, as much unprotected sex then as they are now, right?

01:59:58.740 And it's the case that abortion is universally outlawed, which it was, then how come we saw the rate of single motherhood so much less than we do now?

02:00:07.820 Wait, and.

02:00:08.500 Hang on. 0.95

02:00:09.140 If they weren't as promiscuous. 1.00

02:00:10.720 Unprotected sex. 0.55

02:00:11.360 Well, because, unfortunately, and this is another reason why I'm here, the government has incentivized by many ways to divide the nuclear family.

02:00:20.940 And so there's many.

02:00:21.520 Yeah, but that's not the question.

02:00:22.440 The question is asking about promiscuity.

02:00:24.440 You asked me why it is that.

02:00:25.000 Promiscuity.

02:00:25.860 If it's the case that women were just as promiscuous then as now but did not have birth control, and we still saw way less single motherhood, wouldn't that stand to reason logically that they were way less promiscuous then than now? 0.54

02:00:37.380 No.

02:00:37.680 I think that.

02:00:38.560 Wait, wait, wait.

02:00:39.720 We actually do have statistics on this.

02:00:44.620 Yeah, so let's pull them up.

02:00:46.100 Hold on.

02:00:46.520 So we've tracked, for example, like they'll ask questions like, what is the number of premarital sexual partners you've had, for example?

02:00:55.720 Do you think that number has declined or increased since the 1950s?

02:01:01.200 Probably, probably increased.

02:01:03.240 I don't know how much so.

02:01:04.340 So women are more promiscuous today than they were 60, 70, 80. 1.00

02:01:08.160 Are men equally more promiscuous?

02:01:08.720 How would that matter?

02:01:09.880 Great red herring.

02:01:10.560 How would it matter?

02:01:11.160 Because you say that now?

02:01:13.140 Yes, men are more promiscuous today.

02:01:14.440 Yes, we agree.

02:01:15.240 Correct.

02:01:15.420 So now you're saying that at this point in history, all women should be treated.

02:01:20.260 I didn't say it. 1.00

02:01:20.880 Holy shit. 1.00

02:01:21.940 Yes. 1.00

02:01:22.080 Straw man.

02:01:23.040 You are the queen of straw mans. 1.00

02:01:24.700 No, you said that. 0.92

02:01:24.900 When did I say all women?

02:01:26.500 Yes, you said.

02:01:27.120 I didn't say all women should be precluded from traditional treatment.

02:01:30.440 That's not what I said.

02:01:31.200 Tell me what I said.

02:01:32.520 You said that at no point in history.

02:01:34.320 No, no.

02:01:34.760 Let me repeat it to you then, right?

02:01:36.060 Tell me what I said.

02:01:37.300 Yes.

02:01:37.660 Because I think you have selective hearing.

02:01:39.300 Like, you don't want to actually be good faith.

02:01:41.420 You want to straw man my position.

02:01:43.780 I did not say that, but go ahead.

02:01:45.180 I can repeat to you exactly what you said and what I heard was that we are in a point

02:01:48.900 in history where you believe that women deserve the least amount of chivalry. 1.00

02:01:53.060 Yes or no.

02:01:54.280 Right?

02:01:55.480 That's what you said.

02:01:56.420 And we could play the Spockets live.

02:01:58.060 I don't know if that's precisely what I said, but that is the essence.

02:02:01.080 Okay, and I don't agree with that because I think that most women are virtuous. 1.00

02:02:08.080 I don't think...

02:02:09.160 Most?

02:02:09.380 What do you mean by most?

02:02:10.700 Give me a percentage.

02:02:11.680 I think most women aren't represented in this particular demographic in that they have 0.95

02:02:16.720 more traditional values and that they decide to have less sexual partners.

02:02:22.960 I think that there's a small percentage of women that do have a lot more sexual partners. 1.00

02:02:28.080 And so if we average it out, then yes, on average now, women have more sexual partners. 1.00

02:02:34.280 But I don't think that we have...

02:02:35.440 The average woman has more sexual partners than the average woman did 50, 60, 70, 80 years 0.98

02:02:40.720 ago.

02:02:40.980 Yeah.

02:02:41.320 Yes, correct.

02:02:42.000 And you consider...

02:02:42.640 And it's even worse for men.

02:02:44.140 Sure.

02:02:44.740 I'm going to...

02:02:45.280 I'm actually...

02:02:46.440 It is worse for men.

02:02:47.700 In fact, most men that are even married watch pornography, and so it really disincentives...

02:02:52.920 I think that's wrong.

02:02:53.560 I don't see how that's wrong.

02:02:53.940 And most women read Harlequin romance novels.

02:02:56.360 They're big consumers of porn, too.

02:02:58.180 Most women don't read those novels. 1.00

02:02:59.760 That is just...

02:02:59.880 Oh, yes. 0.98

02:03:01.000 It's the most widely consumed female porn. 1.00

02:03:04.040 It's insane. 0.99

02:03:05.340 You can do porn, too, though. 0.97

02:03:06.240 Oh, it's me. 0.98

02:03:07.820 It's because...

02:03:08.520 Anecdotes.

02:03:09.020 Are you Christian?

02:03:09.800 Anecdotes.

02:03:10.240 I believe in God, but I'm not...

02:03:12.020 Are you Christian?

02:03:12.520 I am not by a denomination.

02:03:14.120 So you think Andrew Wilson, who goes to an Orthodox church, you think he surrounds himself

02:03:19.460 with more...

02:03:20.520 With women. 0.98

02:03:20.980 With women of lower virtue than the women you surround yourself with? 0.87

02:03:24.340 You think going to church makes you more surrounded by virtuous women? 1.00

02:03:28.060 Ah, generally, yes.

02:03:29.320 Generally, yes.

02:03:29.860 Generally, yes.

02:03:29.920 If you go towards a church that has more traditional values, yes.

02:03:33.060 That's a great supposition to have, and if you have it, that's great.

02:03:35.040 Well, do you think women in church are more virtuous, or do you think women... 0.97

02:03:37.520 Well, hang on.

02:03:38.320 Let's start with this.

02:03:39.000 Let's untangle a couple of concepts.

02:03:41.120 What do you consider female virtues? 1.00

02:03:43.220 I think that women that are intelligent... 1.00

02:03:46.720 No, just name some of the virtues.

02:03:48.160 Self-sufficient, that they are loyal, that they are compassionate, that they are generous,

02:03:53.780 that they are caretaking, right, or nurturing, that they are intelligent, that they...

02:04:01.300 A lot of those are traits.

02:04:02.500 Yes.

02:04:02.760 What would you consider a virtue, though?

02:04:04.420 High-achieving, that...

02:04:06.380 High-achieving is a virtue?

02:04:07.500 Yeah, so loyal, another one.

02:04:09.400 Okay, I can grant, perhaps, loyalty as not being a trait like intelligence, maybe that's

02:04:15.460 a...

02:04:15.580 Loyalty is a virtue, right?

02:04:16.980 What about chastity?

02:04:18.480 Chastity, sexual discipline is what I like to call it.

02:04:23.820 Well, chastity. 1.00

02:04:24.660 Chastity is a traditional female virtue, right? 1.00

02:04:26.840 Yeah, well, chastity means very little to no sex, right?

02:04:30.260 Like, but sexual discipline...

02:04:32.200 That's right, very little to no sex until when.

02:04:34.680 Correct, and so that is...

02:04:35.920 Until when, though?

02:04:36.660 That is not realistic in today's society.

02:04:39.120 I understand, but is it a traditional female virtue? 1.00

02:04:43.900 Chastity. 0.99

02:04:44.300 For you, it is, sexual discipline is the word for me, because I think women can... 1.00

02:04:48.580 Okay, got it.

02:04:49.860 So, so, cope.

02:04:50.880 Yeah, exactly.

02:04:51.540 Can I finish my...

02:04:52.120 Can I finish my...

02:04:53.180 Is it a traditional female virtue? 1.00

02:04:55.480 Do you think a person or an adult, let's say...

02:04:57.820 You didn't answer my question.

02:04:58.700 Is it a traditional female virtue? 1.00

02:05:00.160 Yes, yes.

02:05:00.760 Okay.

02:05:01.040 Just like sexual discipline is.

02:05:02.800 Well, chastity was. 0.96

02:05:04.640 Sexual discipline implies that you're not going to be chaste.

02:05:07.680 You're just going to have less sexual partners...

02:05:10.300 Yes.

02:05:10.500 ...than somebody who has many more than you do.

02:05:12.860 Your chastity does not mean...

02:05:14.580 Okay.

02:05:15.040 ...does not mean the same thing.

02:05:15.920 Can I set an example?

02:05:17.000 Let's say a woman gets married a virgin, and for whatever reason gets divorced, the husband 0.66

02:05:23.400 was abusive and whatnot.

02:05:24.740 Of course.

02:05:25.200 So, they separate, and do you believe that as a result of her having lost her chastity,

02:05:31.400 she can be sexually disciplined in the future going forward? 1.00

02:05:34.240 In this case, she's still following the virtue of chastity.

02:05:36.920 So, the idea here, when you're equating chastity with virginity, that is...

02:05:42.680 They're not the same word for a reason.

02:05:43.900 So, for you, they're not.

02:05:44.620 Okay.

02:05:44.760 The virtue, the virtue of chastity is that you're trying to only retain any type of sexual

02:05:52.500 activity for husband. 0.97

02:05:54.380 That's the idea.

02:05:55.520 Okay.

02:05:55.580 So, I wouldn't say, like, husband dies. 0.99

02:05:57.680 Woman is no longer fucking following the virtue of chastity. 1.00

02:06:01.920 She still would be. 0.99

02:06:03.040 The question here, though, comes down to the idea of what is a virtuous woman? 0.57

02:06:06.800 And if you say a virtuous woman is one who's chaste, it's 1,000% the case that in modern 1.00

02:06:14.420 year, compared to 1930, they are not, they do not have that virtue of chastity, most women. 1.00

02:06:20.620 Most women? 0.99

02:06:21.260 Most women. 0.98

02:06:21.600 You think that's the case right now?

02:06:23.420 I would disagree.

02:06:24.700 Wait, wait.

02:06:25.060 What percentage of women get married as virgins? 1.00

02:06:27.440 Not very many nowadays.

02:06:29.960 So, how can you hold these two?

02:06:32.260 Yeah, by logical and firmament, it's not possible.

02:06:35.500 So, the biological and firmament.

02:06:37.140 They also don't get married at the same age, right?

02:06:38.240 What's the obsession with virginity and a woman's virginity? 1.00

02:06:40.580 So, let's talk about statistics.

02:06:42.240 Let's talk about statistics and the fact, at what age back in the day did women used to 1.00

02:06:46.440 get married?

02:06:47.240 On average, it was much younger, around 1920.

02:06:50.220 Right.

02:06:50.480 So, would you say, then, that that has something to do with the fact that women that are now

02:06:54.600 getting married at an older age, because they are waiting for the right person, or they're

02:06:59.660 waiting to be financially stable.

02:07:01.240 They're just waiting to get through college.

02:07:02.560 Or they're waiting to finish their career.

02:07:04.800 It's just college.

02:07:05.620 Okay.

02:07:06.000 Whichever reason of those that is, do you think that that also has to do with why they

02:07:11.600 aren't as chaste?

02:07:12.360 Well, hang on, hang on.

02:07:13.320 Why would it be a necessary entailment that because women wait until they're older to get 1.00

02:07:17.980 married that they need to fuck? 1.00

02:07:20.140 So, would you... 1.00

02:07:21.220 Don't ask me a question.

02:07:22.480 Answer the question.

02:07:23.360 Then ask the question.

02:07:24.720 Why would it be a necessary entailment that because a woman waits until she's older to 1.00

02:07:28.940 get married that she needs to fuck? 1.00

02:07:31.120 So... 1.00

02:07:31.440 Why would it be a logical entailment that because a woman waits... 1.00

02:07:35.160 You repeated it.

02:07:36.100 I got it the first time.

02:07:37.300 Okay.

02:07:37.600 Then answer first.

02:07:39.140 Okay.

02:07:39.660 So...

02:07:40.020 Why would that be a logical entailment?

02:07:41.300 That was the fourth time.

02:07:42.260 Go ahead.

02:07:44.560 Because, well, human nature and human biology, which...

02:07:48.140 So, they have to?

02:07:48.860 Which I do not negate.

02:07:51.980 I am a realist, right?

02:07:53.680 I'm a realist.

02:07:54.320 Because I operate in reality.

02:07:55.640 So, they don't have to.

02:07:56.600 If you would have not gotten married or would have found the person...

02:08:00.460 Oh, sure. 0.98

02:08:00.640 I would have been the worst degenerate on planet Earth. 0.68

02:08:02.580 But what's the point? 0.94

02:08:03.440 Who cares?

02:08:04.040 That has nothing to do with the point.

02:08:05.480 I think it has everything to do with it. 1.00

02:08:06.620 It wouldn't matter if I was going to go out every single night to blow off of a hooker's fucking 1.00

02:08:11.180 ass and then fucking go get into a gangbang the next morning. 1.00

02:08:14.640 Oh, yeah. 1.00

02:08:15.040 It has zero at all to do with my point. 1.00

02:08:18.680 Why is it a necessary entailment that women got a fuck before they get married because they 1.00

02:08:24.760 get married older? 1.00

02:08:25.560 They don't have to.

02:08:26.520 Exactly.

02:08:27.300 They don't have to.

02:08:27.740 So, if that's the case, all you're saying is that women are less chaste than they used

02:08:31.780 to be.

02:08:32.240 And then you're giving an excuse that they are because they're waiting about nine more

02:08:37.260 years on average to get married. 1.00

02:08:38.860 So, they just got a fuck. 1.00

02:08:41.160 No, that's not the case. 1.00

02:08:42.000 You really seem upset at the fact that women have to engage in relations. 1.00

02:08:48.480 They have to.

02:08:49.000 They have to. 1.00

02:08:49.540 They have to fuck before they're married. 1.00

02:08:50.820 They have to do that. 1.00

02:08:51.580 Why are you so upset that women can engage in sexual relations before marriage? 1.00

02:08:55.660 I'm sorry.

02:08:56.320 I thought that you said that that's immoral.

02:08:58.440 No, I never said that.

02:08:59.200 Okay.

02:08:59.560 So, it's not immoral to engage in sex before marriage?

02:09:01.880 I think that it's good to wait before marriage.

02:09:04.640 Why is that good?

02:09:05.300 But it's not necessarily reality.

02:09:07.300 Why is it good?

02:09:08.020 Why is it good?

02:09:08.500 Well, ask people that do wait until marriage and how long it is that they stay married.

02:09:15.160 But again, that's a very small percentage of the population.

02:09:18.620 So, then people should.

02:09:19.960 They ought wait until they're married on average.

02:09:23.860 I have conflicting views personally on that.

02:09:26.880 And you're not a Femcon? 0.92

02:09:28.160 I am not a Femcon.

02:09:29.100 You're not a Femcon. 0.98

02:09:29.380 You're ultra right-wing conservative.

02:09:32.560 And you're not a traditional man.

02:09:32.900 I'm not a traditionalist.

02:09:33.940 Never said I was.

02:09:34.560 Nor a gentleman by definition.

02:09:35.040 But you're definitely a Femcon. 0.94

02:09:36.680 By definition.

02:09:37.120 Definitely a Femcon. 0.94

02:09:37.980 Right.

02:09:38.420 So, you can't tell me right now that it's not good for women to not engage in sex before 1.00

02:09:43.680 marriage.

02:09:44.340 So, I'm sorry to bring this up because I know it is a sensitive subject.

02:09:47.580 Yes, I had tons of sex before marriage.

02:09:49.320 What's the...

02:09:49.920 But my answer...

02:09:51.000 Can you answer my question?

02:09:51.980 No, that's not what I was going to talk about.

02:09:52.940 I was going to mention...

02:09:53.020 Are you going to talk about my wife now?

02:09:55.140 Would you consider her a chaste person?

02:09:56.980 Okay.

02:09:57.380 So, anyway...

02:09:57.680 That's a beautiful woman.

02:09:58.700 What would that have to do...

02:09:59.500 Did you take her virginity or... 0.93

02:10:00.380 What would that have to do with anything I'm saying?

02:10:02.920 That I believe she can be a virtuous woman.

02:10:05.220 I'm defending her.

02:10:06.720 I didn't say they can't be virtuous.

02:10:08.440 I'm defending her.

02:10:09.100 I'm saying she has virtue despite the fact that she has been married before. 0.99

02:10:12.200 Nobody ever claimed that they couldn't.

02:10:14.480 No, this was not the claim.

02:10:15.860 I'm asking you a question.

02:10:17.420 Is it good for women to not have sex before marriage? 1.00

02:10:21.820 I think that it depends on the individual. 0.99

02:10:23.620 So, then you would prescribe for some women that they fuck before they get married, then? 1.00

02:10:27.980 I think it depends on the individual. 0.99

02:10:29.720 So, then some individuals...

02:10:31.160 And I don't like to call it that.

02:10:31.840 So, then some individuals you would prescribe that they have sex before marriage.

02:10:35.240 I think that people usually are...

02:10:37.300 Prescribe!

02:10:37.600 Hold on.

02:10:38.100 Let's operate in reality.

02:10:39.460 I am.

02:10:39.880 I think that most people are in a relationship for a year to two years before tying the knot.

02:10:45.000 And it is unrealistic in today's standards to go without having any kind of relations before doing that.

02:10:51.460 Is that good, though?

02:10:52.780 You ask me, right?

02:10:53.900 I am asking you.

02:10:55.060 Is that good?

02:10:55.920 I think that sexual compatibility is important. 1.00

02:10:58.560 So, they need to fuck. 1.00

02:11:00.400 Why are you so upset? 1.00

02:11:01.580 Because I'm asking...

02:11:02.840 Can you just answer the question?

02:11:04.520 Why are you so upset about me? 1.00

02:11:05.500 Do they need to fuck or not? 1.00

02:11:07.240 No, they don't need to. 1.00

02:11:08.500 Nobody needs to do anything.

02:11:10.000 Let her answer.

02:11:10.800 He wants a yes or no.

02:11:12.020 I do. 1.00

02:11:12.720 Would you prescribe that women fuck before they get married? 1.00

02:11:15.560 I prescribe that they should verify that they have sexual chemistry. 0.99

02:11:19.940 And whether that leads them to find that out...

02:11:22.200 She's not their prescriber.

02:11:22.980 ...in one way or another, I don't know what it is.

02:11:25.120 What would you consider the best way for them to find that out?

02:11:28.740 It depends on the couple. 0.89

02:11:30.380 Yeah, like on average.

02:11:31.740 Just on average.

02:11:32.680 I'm not in people's bedrooms.

02:11:33.600 Yeah, just like on average.

02:11:34.660 How would you say that that's probably the most likely way for them to discover that they're compatible?

02:11:39.480 How did you find out that you had sexual compatibility with your wife? 1.00

02:11:41.940 Yeah, I was out fucking. 1.00

02:11:43.320 No, with your wife. 1.00

02:11:44.140 Before you got married.

02:11:44.860 Yeah, what is that?

02:11:45.920 How did you determine that?

02:11:47.340 Literally anything that you ask me from an anecdotal perspective, regardless of how I answer it, has no bearing on the argument.

02:11:55.260 Yes, it does.

02:11:55.900 How?

02:11:57.220 You're telling...

02:11:57.940 How?

02:11:58.540 So would it have been bad?

02:11:59.880 No one's got you.

02:12:00.380 Or is it bad? 0.99

02:12:01.060 If I literally grabbed some woman next to me right now, threw her up on the table, and just started fucking railing her in front of all of you, how the fuck would that have anything to do with my question? 0.99

02:12:11.600 How would it have a fucking thing to do with my question? 0.99

02:12:14.780 How? 0.98

02:12:15.000 Because you're trying to say that being chaste is the ultimate value, right? 1.00

02:12:18.880 No, I'm asking you.

02:12:20.720 I'm asking you.

02:12:21.600 Did you have relations with your wife?

02:12:22.180 Who cares if I did?

02:12:24.000 You had relations with your wife before getting married.

02:12:26.440 Tell me how that would matter.

02:12:27.480 Because you're a human.

02:12:29.100 What does...

02:12:29.620 And women are human as well. 1.00

02:12:30.600 That has no bearing on the argument.

02:12:33.020 Yes, it does. 0.99

02:12:33.200 Would you prescribe that women fuck before they get married the guy that they're going to be with? 1.00

02:12:39.520 Why do you care? 0.99

02:12:39.600 Why do you think?

02:12:40.000 She has her own body. 0.99

02:12:41.280 They have their body.

02:12:41.900 I don't...

02:12:42.200 I understand.

02:12:43.140 They have their own...

02:12:43.520 I personally...

02:12:43.740 Would you say it's good?

02:12:44.760 I would say that it varies.

02:12:46.420 It differs based on someone...

02:12:47.940 Like, generally, like, I would say...

02:12:49.820 Since she won't answer.

02:12:51.280 Well, I personally wanted to wait until marriage, definitely.

02:12:54.320 It's their choice.

02:12:55.560 But I got married in my mid-twenties.

02:12:56.740 It's not a yes or no question.

02:12:57.560 I'm not asking...

02:12:58.920 Listen, you can make a caveat and say, sure.

02:13:02.700 For, like, most people, it's good.

02:13:05.020 But I would prescribe for at least some people that they should have sex before they marry the person they're going to marry. 0.89

02:13:10.500 Would you calm down so I can at least finish the sentence?

02:13:16.220 Go for it.

02:13:17.120 Here's the thing, right? 0.94

02:13:18.540 It's like, what I'm asking specifically is if you would at least recommend to some people it would be good for you to have sex before you marry this person.

02:13:27.020 I don't recommend any kind of sexual acts between other couples ever.

02:13:31.780 Period.

02:13:32.200 That's my answer.

02:13:33.040 Why can't you accept it?

02:13:33.700 Yes or no.

02:13:34.880 So then the idea here is when you're talking about ideas like chastity and you're talking about ideas like virtues, those virtues are prescriptions of ought.

02:13:46.300 People ought do thing. 0.98

02:13:48.040 So when I'm asking you about your oughts and you say, I would never make an ought, I don't even understand now what is virtuous.

02:13:53.400 I believe that women ought to be sexually disciplined for their own sake, as in to maintain healthy. 1.00

02:14:00.060 Let me define that really quick.

02:14:00.920 To maintain healthy, to not have multiple sexual partners.

02:14:03.080 Let me ask you a question on sexual discipline. 0.97

02:14:04.620 Go ahead.

02:14:05.420 So would you categorize the following?

02:14:07.420 Hey, you've got to put it on frame.

02:14:08.940 Put it on frame, Nathan.

02:14:10.060 I'll be back.

02:14:10.600 I'm going to have another one.

02:14:10.940 Yeah, yeah.

02:14:11.780 Would you categorize the following as a woman who has sexual discipline? 0.99

02:14:15.440 Prior to marriage, let's say a lot of women get married in their late 20s, let's say a woman had one monogamous boyfriend per year up until the age of marriage, starting, say, at 17. 1.00

02:14:32.960 So let's say she's had sex with 14 men, but they were all within the confines of a long-term relationship, monogamous relationship, each lasting one year.

02:14:43.320 Would that be sexual discipline?

02:14:44.780 To me, I think that that is poor initial vetting of the people that they're with.

02:14:51.480 But I mean, I don't understand, but that would be sexual discipline, would it not?

02:14:56.380 I think that the poor sexual discipline stems from the main problem, which is poor assessing of people's character and who it is that they pick to be in a relationship with.

02:15:07.040 I think that's the problem.

02:15:08.600 And I agree with that.

02:15:10.340 But to come back to the original point that you made with Ivy is that if a woman who just got gangbanged by 10 guys, who has semen all up in her, you know, no condom, whatever, goes on a date with a man, right?

02:15:25.800 And then she said, oh, but that's his choice to go on the date with her.

02:15:30.500 Do you go on that date?

02:15:31.760 And when he asks you, how was your day?

02:15:33.440 What did you do today?

02:15:34.700 Are you going to tell him, well, I banged 10 guys today.

02:15:38.080 And that's what I do.

02:15:39.300 And that's what I do for my living.

02:15:40.400 Is that your conversation starter?

02:15:43.040 Do you think that man wanted to go on the date with you because you'd banged 10 men?

02:15:46.780 That is my question.

02:15:47.560 And I do want to bring it back to, I guess, the original point here.

02:15:51.260 So what specifically, I mean, I want to direct it at you, but I feel like maybe you guys want to weigh in too.

02:15:58.140 Yes.

02:15:58.840 So my position is simply this.

02:16:03.400 Why should men be chivalrous for women who are, I mean, look, I think widely people would perceive this, but I'll just say from my own perspective, non-deserving.

02:16:15.120 Can I answer?

02:16:18.960 Let me let you go.

02:16:20.040 Let me let you go.

02:16:21.000 Stop.

02:16:21.420 Okay.

02:16:21.760 Go ahead.

02:16:22.240 Well, I think if a guy knows what he's signing up for, for the girl that is like a sex worker or whatnot in the industry, I think that it's kind of his choice to be chivalrous.

02:16:33.200 I can't say the word.

02:16:34.280 Chivalrous.

02:16:34.400 Chivalrous.

02:16:35.600 Because I think he knows what he's signing up for.

02:16:38.720 But why the expectation then from women who are sex workers? 1.00

02:16:41.620 It's not.

02:16:41.980 It shouldn't be an expectation.

02:16:43.280 But women, but their position, her position is that despite me not holding up any of my own tradition, like any sort of traditional thing, I still want the man to uphold his because it benefits me.

02:16:58.080 I don't think it's right for the expectation to be there, but I think if the guy is knowing what he's signing up for with the girl that he's choosing to take on a date, that he's kind of signing up to hold that, to be chivalrous.

02:17:13.340 I can't say the word, but yeah.

02:17:14.720 I'd like to add that I think that women in general, just by virtue of being a feminine woman, should receive chivalry from men, regardless of her job. 0.99

02:17:25.240 Just because she has a vagina. 1.00

02:17:26.520 Not just because she has a vagina, but like the way that we carry ourselves, our natural attributes, what we bring to the table in a relationship with a man. 0.99

02:17:37.020 So a woman, he brings strength, right? 0.99

02:17:39.540 Do all women, but do all women reach that threshold? 0.89

02:17:44.940 I would say.

02:17:46.840 What would disqualify a woman? 1.00

02:17:48.860 I think what would disqualify a woman from not receiving chivalry is disrespect, right? 0.99

02:17:57.420 Is she disrespecting him or herself, society, right?

02:18:01.320 Is she, how do I say this?

02:18:06.480 So is it disrespectful to show up on a first date with another man's seed? 0.98

02:18:10.080 I would say yes.

02:18:11.160 Okay, and you're polyamorous.

02:18:12.340 I'm polyamorous, correct?

02:18:13.640 You might like this. 0.99

02:18:14.240 So you wouldn't, that's disgusting.

02:18:15.700 But I also wouldn't schedule a date back to back with.

02:18:18.760 To you.

02:18:19.020 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, stop this off.

02:18:20.780 Genuinely, like to you.

02:18:21.800 Hold on, hold on, hold on. 0.97

02:18:22.760 So, to 99% of men, the thought of, I understand that there are some cucks out there, for 99% of men, the thought of the girl he's going on a date with, or the girl he's going to be in a relationship with, or the girl he's going to be intimate with, the thought that she's being sexually active with another man, yeah, that is disrespectful and disgusting to that man. 0.90

02:18:44.120 I think it's important to be, like, transparent about your sex life, to provide people that choice. 0.51

02:18:49.100 That way you're not violating their bodies.

02:18:50.600 So, like, I think it is important to say, yeah, I, like, as much as they don't want to hear it, you open up that opportunity for them to say, yes, I want to move forward with this.

02:18:59.000 No, I don't.

02:18:59.700 Would you, if a guy wanted to go 50-50 on the date, would you be okay with that?

02:19:04.480 I have been in the past, but I just feel like, you know, I have different standards now.

02:19:10.260 And as much as people think that I have lower standards just because of what I do, I don't.

02:19:14.580 Like, it doesn't matter what they say, because I know that I don't.

02:19:17.720 I think that a lot of sex workers actually have higher standards for dating because of the treatment that we get from society or social media.

02:19:26.380 Yeah, but you don't deserve it is what I'm trying to get at here.

02:19:29.800 But what, why don't you deserve it?

02:19:30.500 Look, regardless, I think I didn't answer this question.

02:19:32.700 Somebody originally posed it.

02:19:34.080 It might have been you.

02:19:34.920 So, women who are sex workers, women who are not ladies, women who are promiscuous, women who are not feminine, whatever it is, everybody is deserving of respect. 1.00

02:19:43.600 I'm not saying that sex workers or promiscuous women or women who are poly or whatever it is, I'm not saying that you should walk up to her and smack her in the face and call her a bitch. 0.99

02:19:51.900 I'm not saying that at all. 0.99

02:19:52.740 You should always treat people with respect regardless of their job, profession, whatever, career.

02:19:56.160 However, what we're talking about is something very specific, and that's dating dynamics.

02:20:01.840 There is an expectation on men to be chivalrous, et cetera, et cetera, be all trad.

02:20:07.200 And it's interesting to me that you, I guess, here's my question.

02:20:12.020 Maybe I'll rephrase it.

02:20:12.780 Yeah, I would just reduce it to this.

02:20:14.360 Why does any woman deserve chivalry? 1.00

02:20:16.220 I ask that.

02:20:17.140 That's why we're single.

02:20:18.960 That kind of comment is the point of the loneliness.

02:20:22.260 Answer the question.

02:20:23.020 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

02:20:26.680 It's actually you.

02:20:29.040 Me.

02:20:29.420 It's you because even as the conservative woman here, you're not actually willing to step up and be like, you know what, men need to be better, but you're actually, you're actually.

02:20:39.140 Men need to be better.

02:20:40.120 Women need to be better. 1.00

02:20:40.900 Hold on.

02:20:41.260 Sure.

02:20:41.500 But my position is certain women don't deserve chivalry. 1.00

02:20:45.340 I never argued against that.

02:20:46.820 You literally are.

02:20:47.800 In fact, I. 1.00

02:20:48.140 You just said the reason that there's a male loneliness epidemic is because men don't want to pay for dates with little whores. 1.00

02:20:53.320 No, no, no. 1.00

02:20:53.960 That's literally your fucking position. 1.00

02:20:55.980 No. 1.00

02:20:56.400 Okay.

02:20:56.880 Should I?

02:20:57.480 Hold on.

02:20:57.860 Wait, wait.

02:20:58.260 Let me ask you a question.

02:20:59.060 I responded to him.

02:20:59.340 Hold on.

02:20:59.760 Let me ask you a question.

02:21:00.680 Let me ask you a question.

02:21:01.460 That's why all women don't deserve chivalry. 1.00

02:21:03.460 I didn't say why.

02:21:04.360 You did say that.

02:21:05.360 And let's rewind.

02:21:05.780 No, that's not what he said.

02:21:06.900 I'll bet you 500 bucks I didn't say that's why women don't deserve chivalry. 1.00

02:21:10.280 That's why all women don't deserve chivalry. 1.00

02:21:11.740 No, he asked $500.

02:21:13.800 Put it back.

02:21:14.660 Is that what you said?

02:21:15.340 $500.

02:21:15.580 $500.

02:21:16.440 I have $500.

02:21:16.880 Put it.

02:21:17.440 Grab that clip.

02:21:18.400 Send it to Brian.

02:21:23.020 $500 for me.

02:21:25.000 I asked a question.

02:21:26.720 I said, why does any woman deserve chivalry? 1.00

02:21:31.240 That's exactly what I.

02:21:32.520 No, that's a completely different statement than no women deserve chivalry. 1.00

02:21:37.020 So why does every woman deserve chivalry? 1.00

02:21:40.000 That's what you said.

02:21:41.020 Why do women deserve chivalry? 1.00

02:21:42.040 Why do women deserve chivalry is a different statement than that's why women do not deserve chivalry. 0.99

02:21:46.940 I'm hearing you.

02:21:47.860 They don't.

02:21:48.280 Hold on.

02:21:48.600 Okay, so that's the way that you meant it as a question.

02:21:51.980 No, it's not what I meant.

02:21:52.980 Yeah, I'm just a shake, by the way.

02:21:54.120 It's how I, it's my question.

02:21:55.960 We can say that I've answered questions in the positive as in, okay, so why do all women deserve chivalry? 1.00

02:22:03.680 Why do men deserve virgins? 1.00

02:22:04.980 Why does any woman deserve chivalry was my question. 1.00

02:22:07.160 Correct.

02:22:07.200 That is what you said.

02:22:08.400 That is what you said.

02:22:09.500 Why do men deserve virgins? 1.00

02:22:10.880 I said right after, I said right after that, that is the kind of comment that is driving

02:22:16.560 us apart as the sexes.

02:22:19.260 That kind of assumption.

02:22:20.440 Wow, that's a great contribution there. 0.99

02:22:21.980 So, can you hand the trolls, the Thorps, out of the fucking chat for me? 0.99

02:22:25.980 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0.99

02:22:26.580 Wait, wait, wait.

02:22:26.940 Don't hide that.

02:22:27.620 Let me, uh, hold on.

02:22:28.780 Andrew doesn't even think his wife deserves chivalry.

02:22:31.140 I'm reading it.

02:22:31.660 That's why he made her take a paternity test. 1.00

02:22:33.580 Stop, stop, stop.

02:22:34.760 Okay, I'm just reading the screen, but. 0.97

02:22:36.380 Yeah, I have dogmatic trolls.

02:22:39.000 We don't need you to be the host. 0.88

02:22:40.260 Gotcha.

02:22:41.100 Anyway, so again, you're being really bad faith.

02:22:44.500 You're strawmanning.

02:22:45.200 You've been strawmanning positions all night.

02:22:46.960 Andrew literally didn't say that.

02:22:48.540 He was asking, why do women deserve chivalry? 0.99

02:22:51.580 It seems like you're taking the affirmative position that even women who got gangbanged 1.00

02:22:56.300 the morning of the date should have their date paid for.

02:22:59.180 Well, that's our position.

02:23:00.480 So why are you arguing against it?

02:23:02.280 No, and I'm not.

02:23:03.340 But so we're asking why, okay, I guess I'll ask the question like this.

02:23:07.680 It's okay for people in society to say men should. 0.77

02:23:13.340 Women can say it. 1.00

02:23:14.040 Men can say it.

02:23:14.700 Society can say it.

02:23:15.540 Men should.

02:23:16.080 Men should pay for first dates. 1.00

02:23:17.300 Men should provide. 1.00

02:23:18.000 Men should protect.

02:23:18.920 Men should observe the sidewalk rules. 1.00

02:23:20.700 So if there's a car barreling down the road, he gets fucking smashed on the pavement and 0.99

02:23:24.660 the woman gets to survive. 1.00

02:23:25.880 Even if it's a first date, men should open car doors. 0.99

02:23:28.600 Men should buy flowers. 1.00

02:23:29.300 Men should do all these things.

02:23:30.500 What are we allowed to say women should do? 0.99

02:23:35.840 I think we say that.

02:23:36.400 We're allowed to say men should. 0.77

02:23:38.720 What can we actually say women should do? 0.96

02:23:42.060 Women should provide affection, a listening ear. 1.00

02:23:45.680 Goes both ways.

02:23:46.460 Goes both ways.

02:23:47.480 But I'm asking uniquely.

02:23:49.580 So, okay.

02:23:49.840 As the leader, though.

02:23:50.400 Men cannot do their leading. 0.61

02:23:53.120 No, but, okay.

02:23:53.840 When we're talking about chivalry, men to women.

02:23:58.020 Chivalry does not flow.

02:23:59.340 Women to men. 0.90

02:24:01.060 So I'm asking.

02:24:01.860 I disagree with that.

02:24:03.560 Because I've bought flowers for my man before.

02:24:07.760 Okay.

02:24:08.860 How many first dates have you been on?

02:24:11.080 First dates, not many.

02:24:12.180 And you know why?

02:24:12.980 Because I pre-vet people before I even go on a first date.

02:24:16.200 Okay.

02:24:16.280 How many?

02:24:17.060 So there aren't many first dates.

02:24:19.240 It's usually first date and then relationship because we've been talking.

02:24:21.840 For a very long time before that.

02:24:24.360 Because I want to not waste that person's time and money.

02:24:28.260 How old are you?

02:24:28.700 You're 32?

02:24:29.260 32.

02:24:30.000 32.

02:24:30.560 Okay.

02:24:31.060 So how many first dates have you been on?

02:24:33.380 Probably seven in my entire life.

02:24:35.000 Okay.

02:24:35.140 Did you split?

02:24:36.420 Did you pay for it?

02:24:37.480 Or did the guy pay for it?

02:24:38.600 They paid for it because we agreed on that beforehand.

02:24:42.400 You have that conversation?

02:24:43.760 Yes.

02:24:43.880 It's not just assumed?

02:24:44.720 Yes.

02:24:45.180 Correct.

02:24:45.460 You don't just assume that you're dating like a conservative guy?

02:24:48.320 No.

02:24:48.940 Okay.

02:24:49.340 So you.

02:24:49.660 I date.

02:24:50.240 Wait.

02:24:50.280 When you say you have the conversation.

02:24:52.400 Wait.

02:24:52.880 Didn't you go on dates when you were 18?

02:24:54.340 So when you were 18, you're like, hey, by the way, buddy, you're going to pay for the

02:24:57.080 date?

02:24:57.740 No.

02:24:57.980 We had the conversation.

02:24:59.500 And they told me.

02:25:00.320 You were dating at 18?

02:25:01.420 Yes.

02:25:02.120 Believe it or not.

02:25:03.240 Okay.

02:25:03.660 I mean, that's possible.

02:25:04.700 Believe it or not.

02:25:04.880 In fact, those are one of the things that you talk about.

02:25:08.560 And if I have a verbal conversation on the phone and they say, I can't wait to treat you out

02:25:15.340 to dinner, that is a verbal confirmation that the person wants to treat me to dinner.

02:25:20.700 So I know, we both know, both consenting parties know how it is going to go.

02:25:25.080 And if he doesn't believe in that, then we don't go on the date and I don't waste his

02:25:28.940 time and money.

02:25:29.500 But so of all the first dates you've been on, which you say is seven, in each instance,

02:25:35.640 the guy paid, correct?

02:25:36.740 Yes.

02:25:37.420 Okay.

02:25:37.700 So my, you responded when I was saying chivalry flows men to women.

02:25:43.060 If in your own experience, men always paid for you on the first date.

02:25:47.520 And my, my argument here is, well, chivalry, an example of chivalry, chivalry, excuse me,

02:25:52.400 would be men paying for first dates, but you've never paid for a first date or even gone 50,

02:25:56.880 50.

02:25:56.900 I do other nice things.

02:25:58.640 Okay.

02:25:59.060 Once you're in the, I randomly.

02:26:00.220 Okay, great.

02:26:00.600 You've been dating a guy for two years and you bought him a birthday present.

02:26:03.020 That's not what we're talking about.

02:26:04.320 Neither am I.

02:26:04.940 I buy flowers for no reason.

02:26:06.440 I buy gifts for my boyfriend that he bought.

02:26:08.160 But you're, you chose to contend with my point that I was making, which is chivalry flows

02:26:13.800 from men to women.

02:26:15.160 And you're like, well, that's not true.

02:26:16.900 No.

02:26:17.220 So kindness.

02:26:17.920 Kindness.

02:26:18.080 How do women, how do women flow uniquely? 1.00

02:26:21.160 But that's a shared virtue.

02:26:22.240 Chivalry in response.

02:26:24.140 Should men be kind to women?

02:26:25.140 What would be the, what for you, what would be the equivalent word that defines chivalry as

02:26:29.180 in kindness from women to men?

02:26:32.480 Well, first, first there's an asymmetrical.

02:26:34.540 There's an asymmetrical.

02:26:35.460 I think it can be symmetrical.

02:26:36.560 Well, this is equal.

02:26:37.560 It's not for you.

02:26:38.940 It's not for me.

02:26:39.740 Well, it's equivocation.

02:26:40.840 I have been chivalrous towards men.

02:26:41.980 Yeah.

02:26:42.400 And I've been chivalrous towards women. 0.99

02:26:44.220 I've taken women out on dates where I pay for everything. 1.00

02:26:47.400 I open the door.

02:26:48.620 I take on that masculine role.

02:26:50.420 Yeah, I understand.

02:26:51.300 But this is not individualized.

02:26:52.940 So hang on.

02:26:53.540 Let me, let me explain and express.

02:26:55.660 The Titanic's going down.

02:26:57.280 Who gets the lifeboats first? 0.97

02:26:59.320 Women and children. 0.54

02:27:00.400 Nope. 1.00

02:27:00.940 Fuck that shit. 1.00

02:27:01.620 The women and children. 1.00

02:27:02.680 Who makes that decision?

02:27:03.920 Well, these are, well, no.

02:27:07.060 This is a general expectation which came from the various ideals of not just chivalry.

02:27:13.500 That wasn't just one.

02:27:14.940 But also the, essentially the idea that women were a valued commodity, right?

02:27:20.800 But all of those became a shared ethos which led to chivalry.

02:27:25.020 Now that continues today.

02:27:26.860 The Titanic goes down today.

02:27:28.080 The women and children still get the lifeboats.

02:27:31.020 So the question becomes, what is the equivalent of that in general society that men have the expectation to get from women?

02:27:41.080 What is that?

02:27:42.140 I think there is loyalty.

02:27:43.860 I think that there is the value added of being by their side because men, no, no.

02:27:53.300 We're looking for something unique.

02:27:54.300 Let me finish.

02:27:54.780 Give us something unique.

02:27:55.480 Well, there's also the creation of life.

02:27:56.200 No, we need to let me finish that on this.

02:27:57.240 We create lives.

02:27:57.980 We'll support.

02:27:58.720 Men have women to impress other men very often. 0.94

02:28:02.020 And so if you have a woman that is next to you, that is intelligent, that can have a conversation and a debate, then it raises your value as a man.

02:28:11.600 Women raise your value. 1.00

02:28:12.280 In comparison to having somebody that can't do that.

02:28:15.280 It's true.

02:28:16.260 But there's not even a dispute here.

02:28:18.580 The thing is, is like all of these things, though, are shared.

02:28:22.020 There's also women who get men and want them as arm candy so that they can show them off. 1.00

02:28:26.940 There's all that.

02:28:27.500 Say it again.

02:28:28.320 There's also women who want men who look like studs. 1.00

02:28:31.760 Okay, but what is the proportional comparison to that?

02:28:35.280 Hang on, hang on.

02:28:35.900 It wouldn't matter.

02:28:36.660 However, the idea here is it's not a shared, generalized value like it is for men.

02:28:42.840 The women and children get the lifeboats where everything is your, that you're talking, hang on.

02:28:46.840 But men said that system up. 0.89

02:28:47.460 Everything that.

02:28:48.240 Oh my God, it's such a feminist. 1.00

02:28:48.760 It is.

02:28:49.260 No, it is not.

02:28:49.960 It is.

02:28:50.800 But even if it wasn't.

02:28:52.100 The same way that men sent other men to war.

02:28:53.160 I'm going to, I'm going, I'm going to grant it. 0.97

02:28:56.140 I'm actually going to grant all of this, that yes, men invented it.

02:28:59.620 They just like, they grabbed it.

02:29:00.840 And men sent other men to war.

02:29:01.700 Okay, you're right.

02:29:02.360 And I disagree with that.

02:29:02.660 We just grabbed a chisel and we were like, men, give lifeboats.

02:29:08.220 Got it. 0.99

02:29:08.620 We put it in fucking enshrined in stone. 1.00

02:29:10.740 They made the decision. 0.99

02:29:12.080 Can you give me anything that's the equivalent of that from the female side?

02:29:17.680 That's what I'm asking.

02:29:18.700 Well, women are the ones that are responsible for destroying their bodies and bringing life. 1.00

02:29:24.580 Do you have any kids?

02:29:25.420 I don't have any kids.

02:29:26.740 How many men paid for first dates that you didn't give children to? 1.00

02:29:29.800 Oh my gosh, seven meals.

02:29:31.400 And you think I should give a man a child for paying for my meal, Brian? 0.99

02:29:34.160 No, that's not what I'm saying.

02:29:35.180 That's so weird.

02:29:35.660 No, no, no.

02:29:36.020 Hold on.

02:29:36.220 Let me explain the argument.

02:29:37.880 Let me explain the argument.

02:29:39.300 Men are also expected to toil.

02:29:40.920 Really quick.

02:29:41.260 So it's not even an argument.

02:29:42.560 Let me explain.

02:29:43.480 So if the idea here is men should be chivalrous and chivalrous is expected up front immediately,

02:29:49.960 ergo on the first date, men should do that because at some vague nebulous point down

02:29:56.660 the road, I might give birth to this man's child.

02:30:02.320 However, that argument doesn't really make sense.

02:30:04.940 Absent in all instances in which you've gone on the first date with somebody, if you didn't

02:30:10.040 bear them children, then that argument doesn't hold any weight in any way.

02:30:13.900 The reason I went on first dates wasn't to, the reason I went on first dates isn't because

02:30:19.100 of the fact that they, to see if they're chivalrous, it's to see if we have chemistry

02:30:23.140 after the fact that we've talked about whether our values are the same, whether our futures

02:30:27.580 are going to align, a bunch of other things.

02:30:29.840 The reason that this argument doesn't hold weight is because it's an equal curse anyway.

02:30:34.060 Going back to the idea of Adam and Eve, Eve had to give childbirth, but men had to toil. 0.56

02:30:39.060 Both of those take the toll on the body.

02:30:41.360 So yes, it's true.

02:30:42.480 Women have to deal with the bodily toil of... 1.00

02:30:44.840 You're making a religious argument.

02:30:46.160 No, no, no.

02:30:46.620 I'm making a present day argument.

02:30:49.640 The top dangerous jobs on planet earth are held by which sex? 0.99

02:30:53.040 Men.

02:30:53.420 I agree with that.

02:30:54.020 Okay.

02:30:54.040 So they toil.

02:30:55.040 That hurts their body.

02:30:56.340 You have the children.

02:30:57.200 That hurts the body.

02:30:58.280 That's an equivalent exchange. 0.98

02:30:59.680 I want to hear what we get that's fucking unique. 0.96

02:31:02.820 Women are doing those jobs now too. 1.00

02:31:04.100 What do men get that's unique? 0.73

02:31:04.960 I don't think your own mother would be happy to hear that question come out of your mouth.

02:31:09.060 to say what it is that women give to you that is unique.

02:31:11.840 Do you have an answer?

02:31:13.040 Other than life?

02:31:13.340 Wait, what?

02:31:13.780 Other than life?

02:31:14.560 Wait, wait, wait.

02:31:15.200 Stop.

02:31:15.600 Wait, wait.

02:31:16.080 You need men's genetic material for life? 1.00

02:31:19.920 I asked you.

02:31:20.520 You don't.

02:31:21.820 Yes, you do.

02:31:22.600 You don't.

02:31:22.920 We can reproduce women with just our bone marrow. 1.00

02:31:26.460 Why would Andrews?

02:31:27.020 No.

02:31:27.680 With certain technology.

02:31:29.600 No.

02:31:29.880 Yes.

02:31:30.600 No, you can't.

02:31:31.400 No, you can't.

02:31:32.040 Yes, we can.

02:31:32.640 You always need male genetic material no matter what. 0.92

02:31:34.980 You can't do it alone.

02:31:35.880 I guess they contributed with the technology.

02:31:38.160 You don't need a sperm. 1.00

02:31:38.660 You don't need. 0.98

02:31:39.260 I'm curious what you need.

02:31:40.880 We don't need you though.

02:31:41.980 Just the womb. 0.93

02:31:42.400 Yeah, you do.

02:31:43.100 Exactly.

02:31:43.800 That's us.

02:31:44.460 Yeah, the sperm's just us. 0.95

02:31:46.420 Look, I don't like the argument that men don't need women.

02:31:47.700 No, it's not. 1.00

02:31:47.720 You can put that in a fucking jar. 1.00

02:31:50.320 Does that lead to good children to not have a man? 1.00

02:31:51.640 And we can perhaps one day make an artificial womb. 0.88

02:31:54.160 One day.

02:31:54.620 I hope you can afford that.

02:31:56.660 But that's my point.

02:31:57.820 I don't like the argument that men don't need women and women don't need men.

02:32:01.680 We need each other.

02:32:03.160 Yeah.

02:32:03.480 Absolutely.

02:32:04.320 But nobody's even disputing this.

02:32:07.320 And you see no value in motherhood.

02:32:08.100 Just asking about.

02:32:09.340 So why would a woman want to have kids with you? 1.00

02:32:11.440 I don't know if they did.

02:32:12.260 But here's the thing.

02:32:13.500 Here's the thing though, right?

02:32:15.160 It's like.

02:32:15.620 You know.

02:32:16.260 You're what?

02:32:16.780 Wait, what?

02:32:17.480 I, you know, I wish her the best.

02:32:19.720 Yeah.

02:32:20.140 Well, I mean, you don't need to.

02:32:21.560 She's never, she's never been happier.

02:32:23.520 But the thing is, is like.

02:32:24.760 Wait, Andrew, hold on.

02:32:25.620 Andrew's been like polite to you.

02:32:27.120 I don't know why you're being like passive aggressive and insulting Andrew.

02:32:31.620 I don't even care.

02:32:32.420 I just want to get the answer to the question.

02:32:34.380 Go for it.

02:32:35.580 What, can you name a thing which is equivalent that generally men would receive that's the equivalent of the women, children, lifeboats?

02:32:44.500 Anything.

02:32:45.520 Just one thing.

02:32:47.160 That is not a shared proxy between the two.

02:32:50.220 Are you genuinely asking that question?

02:32:51.660 Yes, yes.

02:32:51.800 Okay, so women are the primary people that are in health care, right? 1.00

02:32:56.360 So if you go to the doctor, you're probably going to be seen by a nurse first.

02:33:00.880 Are you listening to his question?

02:33:03.280 Yes, I am.

02:33:04.120 So if I'm going on a date with a woman. 0.51

02:33:06.800 No, I'm talking about.

02:33:08.080 What I get is that there are vaguely women in health care. 0.99

02:33:10.640 No, no, no.

02:33:11.140 What?

02:33:11.500 You're talking about white women. 1.00

02:33:12.900 If I'm going on first date with a barista.

02:33:14.520 What I get from the barista is that there's vaguely women in health care. 0.97

02:33:18.180 No, but you made a vague question. 0.98

02:33:18.980 How does that fucking benefit me? 1.00

02:33:20.940 What the fuck? 1.00

02:33:21.500 Correct. 1.00

02:33:22.200 Correct.

02:33:22.540 Hold on.

02:33:22.860 I'm going to let this poor girl here. 1.00

02:33:24.400 Her hand's getting a cramp.

02:33:25.680 He asked a vague question.

02:33:25.980 Not a one-on-one question.

02:33:27.620 Go ahead.

02:33:27.920 We've got to let this girl come in. 1.00

02:33:29.340 Go ahead.

02:33:30.420 Let's get into the table a little bit.

02:33:31.420 Yeah.

02:33:32.000 I definitely do see you.

02:33:32.780 It's like Tommy Lauren all over again.

02:33:34.560 That would be a compliment.

02:33:36.120 Thank you.

02:33:37.600 The biggest problem, too, I think, that we're kind of running into is, like you have said,

02:33:43.220 we're setting a lot of standards for men, but we aren't setting standards for women. 0.98

02:33:46.420 And I think a lot of these things of chivalry and of, as well, for women, virtue, these should

02:33:52.760 be personal standards we have just for ourselves.

02:33:55.120 You know, we don't need to have the other sex in them. 0.99

02:33:58.060 But it is frustrating for men if, you know, we are expecting so much of them and open every

02:34:04.420 door and do all of these things, but how are you going to be able to provide for them?

02:34:08.800 It is a fair argument.

02:34:10.480 And men do want to be able to be provided in that sense.

02:34:13.700 You know, it comes with a distortion nowadays.

02:34:16.460 Our culture is really sexually saturated.

02:34:18.820 So then that translates now into, you know, sexuality, whether they want essentially customized

02:34:24.440 pornography of you or they want all of these different things, you know, and women say, 1.00

02:34:29.260 oh, yeah, I can provide that.

02:34:30.460 But ultimately, that's not the utmost which we should be providing.

02:34:34.440 And this is loosely from C.S. Lewis.

02:34:37.520 He had said that the ultimate career is motherhood and everything else supports that.

02:34:42.360 So you had said that women sacrifice their bodies and destroy their bodies from childbirth, 0.99

02:34:47.560 but that's actually not true.

02:34:49.060 Giving birth to children will make you healthier.

02:34:51.020 It will decrease your rates of cancer.

02:34:53.600 It's just a good thing to do, generally speaking.

02:34:56.340 For some.

02:34:57.980 For some.

02:34:59.000 But, I mean, if we're looking in the reality and the statistics, that is true.

02:35:03.060 Yeah, women ain't dying in childbirth much anymore. 1.00

02:35:05.360 That ain't a thing, really.

02:35:06.580 Yeah, and I agree.

02:35:07.700 Really?

02:35:08.140 Yeah.

02:35:08.460 I agree.

02:35:08.760 They have diastasis recti.

02:35:09.640 Yeah, it ain't a thing, really.

02:35:11.360 They have diastasis recti, and they have their bodies reshaped.

02:35:15.180 And the only way to put it back together is with surgery.

02:35:17.980 Well, this is some great antinatalist propaganda.

02:35:20.660 No, I think women should have kids. 1.00

02:35:22.160 A conservative woman is, this is literally antinatalist propaganda reporting as a conservative political commentator.

02:35:28.160 To speak facts is propaganda.

02:35:30.120 Well, okay.

02:35:30.960 How many women does this affect? 1.00

02:35:33.100 Most women have diastasis recti after childbirth.

02:35:35.760 And they need to be surgically put together?

02:35:37.600 Since this is a dating show.

02:35:38.780 Do they need to get surgically put together after?

02:35:40.380 It means that their muscles separate.

02:35:42.100 Sure.

02:35:42.700 And then, even if you work out and do all the bounce back stuff, they won't come back together unless you have surgery.

02:35:48.520 But does that, do most of these women need to have surgery? 1.00

02:35:52.060 Well, for a man like you, if they looked the way they looked like after childbirth without any kind of help being put back together, I don't think you would be attracted to them.

02:35:59.400 Do they need to have surgery to get put back together or not?

02:36:03.040 Yes.

02:36:03.400 No, they can live their lives perfectly comfortably without it.

02:36:06.960 It is an option.

02:36:07.720 It is a choice.

02:36:08.420 And not only that, yes, it's a choice.

02:36:10.040 And by the way, while it's the case, and I already gave you the counter to this, while it's the case that I would even grant that childbirth can be destructive on women's bodies, especially when they get older.

02:36:21.100 Which is why you should get married younger, but men destroy their bodies at work, toiling also, so who cares? 1.00

02:36:29.260 Do you think Brian is destroying his body on a laptop right now?

02:36:31.300 Do I think that you're going to get post-80?

02:36:35.300 I'm just saying men should have an option to work.

02:36:36.820 Do you think sitting is good?

02:36:38.140 Do you think sitting is good?

02:36:39.200 No. 0.87

02:36:39.540 What the heck? 0.56

02:36:40.020 Yeah, it's bad for the body to be sitting. 0.53

02:36:41.940 But it's not just that. 1.00

02:36:42.980 I work at a fucking computer. 0.99

02:36:44.060 I got carpal tunnel syndrome. 1.00

02:36:46.240 My fucking back hurts. 0.99

02:36:47.700 My neck hurts. 1.00

02:36:48.440 But you're not going out to hunt animals.

02:36:50.680 What I'm saying is you have an option in career. 0.99

02:36:52.540 And you're 32 without children, so what the fuck are you talking about? 0.89

02:36:55.760 I have an option to do that, just like you have an option to have a podcast, and I support that decision. 0.99

02:37:01.080 But you see the equivalency of the argument is to say, even though, yes, it's true, most men toil.

02:37:06.320 Brian doesn't toil.

02:37:07.200 And it's like, okay, I can see the argument, but you're in the same position.

02:37:10.700 While it's true that maybe most women with children X happens to, I can point to you and say it doesn't happen to you. 0.86

02:37:15.780 So where have we gotten?

02:37:16.520 That's not how you argue.

02:37:17.480 It probably will happen to me.

02:37:18.400 Well, if you're going to make an argument, you should make the argument based on what it is that we're discussing, not the individuals.

02:37:24.080 Which is a sacrifice that women make for men. 1.00

02:37:25.160 Not the individuals.

02:37:26.360 Well, the men are making the equal sacrifice socially and societally when they have the top, most horrific jobs, toil, and die in them.

02:37:33.360 And I think...

02:37:33.860 So the idea...

02:37:34.760 Yeah, so the idea here is like that's not a unique...

02:37:37.060 No, no, you ask what it is that women do, and I'm telling you. 1.00

02:37:39.500 That's not a unique proposition like the lifeboats, though.

02:37:42.980 What are we getting, or the draft, or things like this, what are we getting in exchange for those things, right?

02:37:48.740 What is it that you want?

02:37:49.420 That is on the equal pale for that.

02:37:51.680 What is it that you want?

02:37:52.320 What does that have to do with anything?

02:37:53.880 Because I'm curious.

02:37:54.960 What is it that you want?

02:37:55.620 I want you to make an argument.

02:37:56.820 That's what I want.

02:37:57.420 No, I want you to ask me, to tell me what it is that you want.

02:37:59.840 I want you to tell, I want you to make an argument for what's equivalent.

02:38:02.840 Out of a woman, for you being a chivalrous man. 0.99

02:38:04.600 I want you to make an argument against my argument.

02:38:07.460 Okay, I'll make you an argument.

02:38:09.380 And it is that men bond through vasopressin versus women bond through oxytocin. 0.51

02:38:14.780 And you know what creates vasopressin in men?

02:38:17.440 Being useful to women and having a purpose.

02:38:20.780 Versus women. 1.00

02:38:21.500 So men's purpose is to serve. 1.00

02:38:22.440 So men actually become more attractive to women when they are doing things for women.

02:38:27.940 When they are having a purpose, when they are adding value to their life.

02:38:31.020 So men's purpose is to serve women. 0.97

02:38:33.100 Wonderful.

02:38:33.800 Is that the case?

02:38:35.900 Hang on, let her answer.

02:38:37.300 Is it men's purpose to serve women?

02:38:40.100 Scientifically speaking, they are happier when they do.

02:38:42.680 I'm asking you, is it men's purpose to serve women?

02:38:45.660 I think it's men's purpose to have a good family and a life.

02:38:49.860 I think they should serve society.

02:38:51.580 How's that?

02:38:52.160 Okay, but it sounds like the best way that they can do that is by being a gentleman.

02:38:57.680 It's to serve women because that ups a chemical in their body, right? 1.00

02:39:01.640 It's by being useful to women because, yes, it makes them productive members of society. 1.00

02:39:10.340 So again, my question, so I answered your question.

02:39:11.740 So really the best, hang on, I just want to clarify this real quick.

02:39:14.760 I answered your question.

02:39:15.060 So really the best way for men to serve society is to serve women. 0.99

02:39:18.640 Is to serve their community and women are a part of it. 1.00

02:39:21.080 Yeah, but serving the women particularly is what releases the chemical, right? 1.00

02:39:24.780 What do you want out of women? 1.00

02:39:25.820 Is that the case that it's the chemical release that is assisting them in all other things that they're doing?

02:39:32.260 So primarily by serving women, that would release that chemical. 1.00

02:39:36.120 So they ought to do that, right?

02:39:37.540 If they want to be happy and productive members of society.

02:39:39.700 So if they want to be happy and productive members of society, men serve women. 1.00

02:39:43.440 Got it.

02:39:43.820 Okay, now I ask your question.

02:39:45.100 That's what you should be doing.

02:39:46.580 Got it.

02:39:47.040 Correct, and so since I answered your question, why don't you answer mine, which is what do you want to get out of women in exchange for you being a gentleman, right? 1.00

02:39:58.200 Yeah, so you're talking about a preference now in generality societally wide, right?

02:40:02.660 What is it that you want out of women? 0.99

02:40:04.420 Yeah, so I would add, are you asking me as an individual or are you asking me what I would prescribe societally wise?

02:40:10.720 No, you as an individual, what do you want and expect out of a woman for you being a chivalent? 1.00

02:40:15.460 Yeah, well, my personal preferences for women would have nothing to do at all with the argument, but I would give you, yeah, I'll give you the gen, I'll give you what I would generally would prescribe. 1.00

02:40:24.700 I think it would be a much wiser idea prescriptively from the government top down to begin running any type of propaganda possible for women. 1.00

02:40:34.360 Stop, stop.

02:40:35.500 He's answering the question.

02:40:36.800 Stop it. 0.96

02:40:37.100 For women to move into marriages younger rather than older, and the reason why that's a good thing is because it negates a lot of that damage to the body, it negates a lot of these fucking problems where women are, now we're under the threshold for having our own kids. 1.00

02:40:51.000 You're a conservative, you don't like mass migration, women got to have more kids. 1.00

02:40:54.800 Otherwise, yeah, they're going to have to have more kids. 1.00

02:40:57.360 What do you want out of a woman in exchange for you being a gentleman? 0.99

02:41:00.560 Oh, for me to be a gentleman?

02:41:01.940 Oh, no, I'm not going to be a gentleman to any woman. 1.00

02:41:04.220 I'm not going to be a gentleman to any woman at all, ever, yeah, no. 1.00

02:41:08.780 Thank you for making my own kids. 1.00

02:41:09.420 Fuck that, you got equality. 1.00

02:41:11.220 I'll be nice to women, and I'll be polite to them like I am men, but I'm not going to do anything fucking extra for women. 1.00

02:41:17.620 You're known for that, right? 1.00

02:41:17.840 Fuck that. 1.00

02:41:18.620 You're known for that. 1.00

02:41:19.560 Being a gentleman is extra.

02:41:20.500 I haven't been mean to you.

02:41:21.520 Okay, so.

02:41:22.040 We've just been arguing.

02:41:22.960 Okay, so.

02:41:23.880 Is that an argument mean?

02:41:25.500 If you're a best guy friend, what would you tell them that, hey, you should want your woman to give you this in exchange for you being a gentleman and giving them that?

02:41:36.820 What is it that you want out of a woman? 1.00

02:41:39.180 Oh, well, then you would want deep religious convictions, submissiveness, and virtues.

02:41:45.500 That's not a thing that you gave.

02:41:46.500 That was going to be my answer.

02:41:47.120 What is it that's unique?

02:41:49.060 Because a man can also be religious, right?

02:41:51.520 And everything that you just mentioned.

02:41:53.040 So what is unique to a woman that you want in return for being a gentleman? 0.51

02:41:58.340 Well, I don't understand.

02:41:59.080 You mean what uniquely can a woman give for that? 1.00

02:42:02.680 Yes.

02:42:03.160 Chastity. 0.99

02:42:03.760 What is it that you want?

02:42:04.640 Chastity, specifically.

02:42:05.780 That can be also something that a man gives.

02:42:07.880 But it's not a thing that women value. 1.00

02:42:10.200 No, no, no.

02:42:10.880 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:42:11.500 Okay, you said something unique that a woman can give you.

02:42:14.660 Women can give feminine virtue, which is unique. 0.99

02:42:17.840 Men cannot give feminine virtue. 0.99

02:42:19.260 What are those feminine virtues? 1.00

02:42:20.900 What is the one unique thing?

02:42:23.380 Virgin child. 0.96

02:42:24.680 Virgin child would be chastity, virtue, child. 0.94

02:42:29.360 Can men do that? 0.56

02:42:31.100 Can men do that? 0.56

02:42:33.200 No.

02:42:33.780 Do you want a child?

02:42:34.680 Repeat back what I just said.

02:42:36.040 You clearly are not answering my question or understanding it.

02:42:39.340 But I think you understand.

02:42:40.360 I think you understand my question, but you can't answer it.

02:42:42.240 I'll tell you what, use super small words.

02:42:43.840 Go ahead.

02:42:44.520 I think you're in your feminine energy because you're asking women for something. 0.98

02:42:47.640 He likes yes or no questions only.

02:42:49.800 I'm trying to answer.

02:42:50.960 I don't know what she said.

02:42:51.960 What am I missing?

02:42:52.880 You're in your feminine energy because you're asking women for something in return for being 1.00

02:42:57.620 a proper gentleman and just having the role in society that you should have and that vasopressin

02:43:04.060 is the way that you bond by being-

02:43:05.840 By serving women.

02:43:06.500 Wait, really quick.

02:43:07.440 By being a good-

02:43:07.840 By serving women.

02:43:08.720 A good server of the community.

02:43:09.740 Why don't we even grant that Andrew is in his feminine energy because he's wanting something 0.98

02:43:14.700 from women?

02:43:15.460 I'm asking him to name it.

02:43:17.120 Name what?

02:43:17.960 Name what?

02:43:18.420 What is it?

02:43:18.880 What is she asking me to name, though?

02:43:20.240 What is it that you want from women, Andrew?

02:43:21.820 I literally just told you if I was going to make a societal-wide prescription-

02:43:26.020 No, you-

02:43:26.620 The one unique-

02:43:27.620 Stop talking about society.

02:43:28.920 You.

02:43:29.460 What is it?

02:43:29.860 Is it chastity and submissive?

02:43:30.660 My personal preferences have nothing to do with the virtues.

02:43:33.940 That's what I'm asking you, though.

02:43:34.600 But yes, submission.

02:43:36.200 And not only that, men are in a unique-

02:43:37.920 So you-

02:43:38.380 Men are in a unique position where they can ask from women what they want. 0.53

02:43:42.200 The main thing that women can do, they can do, is they can be chaste, give children, 1.00

02:43:47.340 take care of the children.

02:43:48.660 That is a unique thing while men work that they can do in the tender years that they're necessary 0.99

02:43:54.040 for.

02:43:54.380 That's all you want out of a woman is them giving you children. 1.00

02:43:56.780 Is that-

02:43:57.480 That's how I said.

02:43:58.620 That can be an answer.

02:43:59.440 He also said submissive.

02:44:00.620 Is that your final answer?

02:44:02.100 Yes.

02:44:02.560 And chastity, yes, which is a feminine virtue. 0.99

02:44:05.040 Don't you think-

02:44:05.620 Well, all I'm asking for is actually just this.

02:44:07.800 I think that women could make the great case for chivalry if it was the case that they 1.00

02:44:12.800 were moving towards feminine virtue.

02:44:15.780 Then I think they could make the case, male virtue, we want some sort of privilege, which 0.98

02:44:21.360 is what you used to have that you argue against, like no debt, things like that.

02:44:24.220 Those were privileges.

02:44:24.880 But the idea now that if you say women are not to move towards the idea of virtue, but

02:44:32.680 just some sort of like compromise of sexual discipline or something like this, I don't

02:44:37.320 think that they are in any position to ask for the lifeboat situation or any sort of chivalry

02:44:42.360 at all.

02:44:42.780 Why should they?

02:44:43.220 So I started this whole conversation on, you know, men do this for women because they

02:44:48.640 are being chivalrous.

02:44:50.340 So what do men get back in return?

02:44:52.900 Yes.

02:44:53.220 And that's what we discussed.

02:44:54.140 Yes.

02:44:54.440 And then my final question was-

02:44:56.020 Virtuous women. 1.00

02:44:56.580 What do you want in return?

02:44:57.960 Yeah.

02:44:58.220 Me personally has nothing to do.

02:45:00.200 And you couldn't answer that question.

02:45:01.180 I'm not-

02:45:01.580 My personal preferences have nothing to do with the arguments.

02:45:04.820 Do you agree that men are asking less of women?

02:45:08.260 Hang on, hang on, hang on.

02:45:09.020 Stop.

02:45:09.280 Let me ask you this.

02:45:10.040 Okay. 0.99

02:45:10.920 Let's say that I woke up tomorrow and I went out and I just like fucking beat a guy to death 1.00

02:45:15.580 with a hammer. 1.00

02:45:16.360 Okay.

02:45:16.760 And then the next day in court, I went out and I made an announcement and I said, you

02:45:19.940 know what, everybody? 0.87

02:45:21.220 Beating somebody to death with a hammer is bad. 0.99

02:45:24.660 Okay. 0.98

02:45:25.220 What would me actually having beat the person to death with the hammer have to do with me

02:45:30.880 then saying that beating them to death with the hammer was bad?

02:45:33.940 It would still be bad. 0.58

02:45:35.620 I would still be correct whether or not I engaged in the beating of him to death with the hammer,

02:45:40.460 right?

02:45:41.040 Yes.

02:45:41.320 And that's called hypocrisy, which is why you get called out on it and look bad as a result.

02:45:46.020 That wouldn't even be hypocrisy.

02:45:47.460 Yes, it is.

02:45:48.000 That is actually the definition of hypocrisy to beat a man with a hammer and the next day 0.92

02:45:52.720 I say that it is bad to hit people with a hammer. 0.92

02:45:56.020 I see.

02:45:56.700 So it is the case that I smoke.

02:45:59.880 So if my 11-year-old comes to me and says, dad, should I smoke? 0.98

02:46:02.700 And I say, no, I'm a hypocrite. 0.98

02:46:03.940 Yes. 0.99

02:46:05.720 You're setting the worst example by doing it.

02:46:08.580 That's not a good example.

02:46:11.300 You're non-verbally expressing that they should.

02:46:13.720 Hang on, hang on.

02:46:14.180 I have in the past drunk and drove. 0.94

02:46:18.380 So if I tell a 10-year-old, do not drink and drive, I'm a hypocrite, right? 0.83

02:46:23.900 Would you do it again? 0.93

02:46:24.880 Do you do it again?

02:46:25.700 Well, whether or not I would do it again, would the guy who beat the guy to death with a hammer

02:46:29.540 do it again?

02:46:30.060 He says it's bad.

02:46:30.920 But the example you set previous to that was you smoking.

02:46:34.020 So that is a continuous thing.

02:46:35.640 Not that you smoked once.

02:46:37.180 It's you smoking that makes it a continuous thing that you do.

02:46:41.240 Yeah, okay. 0.99

02:46:41.840 And telling your child not to, that is hypocritical. 0.94

02:46:44.520 Okay. 0.96

02:46:44.860 Because you're non-verbally talking about it.

02:46:46.440 If that's the case, am I driving continuously?

02:46:49.260 No.

02:46:49.700 In that case-

02:46:50.280 Hang on.

02:46:50.760 Am I driving continuously?

02:46:52.180 They're completely different.

02:46:52.740 Okay, hang on.

02:46:53.300 Am I driving continuously?

02:46:54.700 If I am, what right do I have to tell my 10-year-old that they can't continuously drive?

02:46:58.720 That is not a hypocritical situation.

02:46:59.980 Why not?

02:47:00.860 What's the difference?

02:47:01.740 I will tell you, right?

02:47:02.320 I can't wait to hear it.

02:47:03.340 Yeah.

02:47:03.660 Okay.

02:47:03.880 That is, I made a mistake.

02:47:05.140 I didn't do it again.

02:47:05.620 No, no, no.

02:47:05.920 Not drinking and driving.

02:47:06.840 Just driving a car.

02:47:07.720 I drive a car all the time.

02:47:10.240 What right do I then have to tell my 10-year-old they can't drive a car?

02:47:13.740 That would make me a hypocrite, right? 0.72

02:47:15.720 No.

02:47:16.180 Why?

02:47:16.640 Because you have a logical explanation, which is you can't drive a car because you can't

02:47:22.000 drive a car until you're 16 because it's the law.

02:47:24.620 Wait a second.

02:47:25.660 I'm super curious about this. 0.94

02:47:27.760 So as long as there's a law, you're not a hypocrite. 0.82

02:47:30.080 No, because you have an explanation. 0.50

02:47:31.660 So isn't there a law that you can't smoke until you're 18?

02:47:34.800 Do you think-

02:47:35.340 Isn't there a law you can't smoke until you're 21?

02:47:37.260 Are you okay?

02:47:38.080 Isn't there a law you can't smoke until you're 21?

02:47:40.200 Yes.

02:47:40.440 So then therefore, by that same logic, me telling a kid not to smoke, I still wouldn't

02:47:44.400 be a hypocrite. 0.94

02:47:45.500 I think we need to change this. 0.99

02:47:46.840 I have to do a couple changes here.

02:47:48.840 So we need a change.

02:47:50.140 We actually are going to do a seat change because-

02:47:53.200 Triangle hands.

02:47:54.800 You're actually opposition now.

02:47:56.540 So we're going to put you on the other side of the table.

02:47:58.780 Let's switch.

02:47:59.320 So you, you two will switch seats.

02:48:02.920 Let's do.

02:48:03.440 Okay. 0.99

02:48:03.920 You two will switch seats because I don't want Andrew's neck fucking cranked to the entire 0.99

02:48:10.140 show. 0.98

02:48:10.880 We also have this chat coming in.

02:48:13.840 Chair 8 Blonde donated $200.

02:48:16.620 Oh boy.

02:48:17.280 $200?

02:48:18.140 Just to say that?

02:48:19.040 Go ahead.

02:48:19.220 And specifically a username that's Chair 8 Blonde.

02:48:23.380 He cares a lot about you.

02:48:24.320 Something that changes the topic.

02:48:25.320 People are paying money.

02:48:26.760 Just to talk to you.

02:48:27.700 Here, just say it.

02:48:29.680 Just say what you wanted to say.

02:48:30.760 Let's see how we can do this.

02:48:31.940 I think it's best to go.

02:48:32.500 Okay.

02:48:32.800 We don't need to talk about the change.

02:48:34.220 Just do the change.

02:48:35.060 Go ahead.

02:48:35.500 Let's go.

02:48:36.540 Yeah.

02:48:37.920 I think just important to note in this conversation, we talked a lot about, you know, what's going

02:48:43.100 to benefit society most.

02:48:44.780 That was thrown around a lot.

02:48:47.020 And again, it seems like an argument between men and women, but the biggest emphasis on it

02:48:50.960 should be the children.

02:48:52.900 You know, that's the growing generation that's going to be what is most impactful.

02:48:57.000 And we can't really have these conversations.

02:48:59.460 Has this ever happened, by the way?

02:49:00.880 You know, the switching of the chair?

02:49:02.060 Oh, yeah.

02:49:02.560 I've moved to happen.

02:49:03.480 Did I just make history, guys?

02:49:04.920 No.

02:49:05.200 No.

02:49:05.660 Okay.

02:49:05.960 But you get your...

02:49:06.960 Actually, before the show, she wanted to be on that side because it's her side.

02:49:11.300 She has a better side.

02:49:11.880 Yeah, this is my side.

02:49:12.480 So I did get it.

02:49:12.820 So now you get the...

02:49:14.340 The good side.

02:49:15.160 You get the good side.

02:49:15.820 Thank you.

02:49:16.140 All right.

02:49:16.160 Continue on, please.

02:49:16.940 Yeah.

02:49:18.400 But regardless, having the emphasis on having a good society, the emphasis should be on

02:49:24.020 children.

02:49:24.880 Now, this is turning the wheels a little bit because I've never been at a table with this

02:49:30.680 many people who work in the, I guess you could say, adult film industry.

02:49:34.300 So I've had quite a few friends who have done everything from OnlyFans to stripping to

02:49:41.760 prostitution.

02:49:43.320 And every time I have seen it, I have always seen it as a form of self-harm.

02:49:48.680 It's something that happens in early childhood.

02:49:51.300 There's some form of molestation, of assault that leads to then women doing sex work.

02:49:58.320 You're going to be on my side soon.

02:50:00.400 No, I'm saying that I'm not pro-it.

02:50:02.760 It's just, it's not...

02:50:03.780 It's not...

02:50:04.140 It's bad for TOS.

02:50:05.140 I'm not going to get into... 0.98

02:50:06.200 We're not going to fucking talk about that. 0.98

02:50:07.900 Okay. 0.99

02:50:09.180 But...

02:50:09.980 Can I ask one more?

02:50:10.840 Hold on.

02:50:11.440 Hold on.

02:50:11.840 Hold on.

02:50:11.960 That's not always true.

02:50:13.480 Yeah.

02:50:13.980 Definitely not.

02:50:15.840 There's usually some kind of harm behind it.

02:50:18.060 There is.

02:50:19.080 For sure.

02:50:20.020 None for me.

02:50:20.640 Switches, please.

02:50:21.440 None for me as well.

02:50:22.320 I'd say most of the time, somebody got...

02:50:24.620 I think that's just generalizing a very complicated issue.

02:50:27.240 Around the table for the girls that do... 1.00

02:50:27.740 Especially people forced into it.

02:50:29.600 Hold on.

02:50:30.080 Would you be okay with the girls that are at the table that do work 1.00

02:50:32.740 in the industry, like, just by raising of hands?

02:50:35.280 If you have had some kind of sexual inappropriateness in the past,

02:50:40.020 you know, molestation or rape or whatever.

02:50:41.140 Well, I don't even think you're saying it's only that word.

02:50:44.000 I think you're saying, in general, some kind of harm happened to them.

02:50:47.020 I'm not interested in having the sex work bad debate.

02:50:49.620 It's boring.

02:50:51.040 Well, can I ask a question?

02:50:52.020 No.

02:50:52.340 How are you not...

02:50:54.140 Because you don't classify yourself as a feminist, right? 1.00

02:50:56.480 No.

02:50:56.860 How not?

02:50:58.160 Because I believe that...

02:51:00.900 I believe in traditional marriage.

02:51:02.380 I want traditional marriage.

02:51:04.180 I believe in loyalty.

02:51:05.740 I believe in faithfulness.

02:51:07.360 I want to have children.

02:51:07.520 But you want traditional marriage without, like... 0.98

02:51:09.740 Being a traditional woman. 0.53

02:51:10.500 Without being a traditional woman. 1.00

02:51:13.500 Without automatically being a traditional woman without... 1.00

02:51:16.660 If having a career makes me a non-traditional woman,

02:51:20.260 then, sure, call me a non-traditional woman.

02:51:22.460 That's how we're losing elections.

02:51:23.980 Well, not even that.

02:51:24.920 It's just...

02:51:25.460 Conservatives.

02:51:26.700 Thank you.

02:51:27.380 That's why we're driving women more to the left. 1.00

02:51:29.600 No.

02:51:29.860 By chastising them for being individuals,

02:51:32.300 while at the same time being able to be mothers

02:51:34.800 and being able to manage a household.

02:51:36.580 It's the married women who are voting Republican.

02:51:38.640 They vote the same way their husbands do.

02:51:40.980 And why are there so many that are unmarried

02:51:43.380 and are voting Democrat?

02:51:45.120 Is it because of people like you that...

02:51:47.320 It's because...

02:51:48.280 No, it's because of the...

02:51:50.060 ...and are talking heads for the right or...

02:51:52.380 For the right.

02:51:53.380 Some people would consider you that.

02:51:56.000 So you're taller. 0.99

02:51:57.420 Oh, I don't give a fuck about that. 0.99

02:52:00.420 I don't know. 0.99

02:52:01.060 Just so you're taller.

02:52:02.120 Yeah.

02:52:02.300 So anyway, the thing is...

02:52:03.760 Never mind if you can just...

02:52:04.520 Yeah, yeah.

02:52:05.160 So anyway, if you're asking about liberal Democrat women, 0.52

02:52:10.240 the reason that they are

02:52:10.960 is because of higher education rates in university.

02:52:13.120 That's why most women lean more progressive than men do. 0.99

02:52:15.860 That's why.

02:52:17.040 And they don't have the same benefit

02:52:18.880 of the same type of career.

02:52:19.820 So men, they're dealing with sewer systems,

02:52:22.180 they're dealing with lineman systems,

02:52:23.580 they're dealing with heavy electrical systems.

02:52:25.460 They're actually dealing with systems,

02:52:27.060 which are dangerous.

02:52:28.100 They have some stake.

02:52:29.120 They understand how systems work better generally.

02:52:31.780 Okay.

02:52:32.020 At least the ones that they live inside.

02:52:33.660 They don't have the same university indoctrination

02:52:36.640 that women do. 1.00

02:52:37.620 Married women, on the other hand, 0.99

02:52:38.860 tend to move towards their husband's politics

02:52:40.860 and vote towards their husband's politics. 0.98

02:52:43.000 Okay.

02:52:43.260 So the best thing for the GOP

02:52:44.880 would be to let or encourage marriage, 0.85

02:52:48.200 especially religious marriage.

02:52:49.980 Not so much secular.

02:52:51.540 So let's talk in, again, realism.

02:52:53.900 You can't force a religion upon a person, right? 0.94

02:52:57.280 So how would you...

02:52:58.460 You can force the ethics.

02:53:00.040 How is it that outside of religion,

02:53:03.140 you would convince a person

02:53:04.520 that this traditional marriage situation is...

02:53:07.740 It's not a traditional marriage without religion.

02:53:10.240 What would make it traditional?

02:53:11.140 Okay, so a lot of people would disagree with you.

02:53:13.340 Okay, tell me,

02:53:14.060 what makes a marriage absent...

02:53:15.980 If you're saying tradition,

02:53:17.720 what would make a non-religious marriage traditional?

02:53:20.420 And by the way, I personally believe

02:53:21.760 that the person that I want to marry

02:53:23.840 should believe in God as well.

02:53:25.880 Yeah, but that's not my question.

02:53:26.640 My question is...

02:53:27.460 But that is not negating the fact

02:53:29.000 that there's other people that can be married.

02:53:30.400 How could it be a traditional marriage

02:53:32.340 absent religion 0.98

02:53:33.540 when traditional marriages

02:53:34.780 were all done through the church?

02:53:36.520 Because we live in modern society.

02:53:38.200 Then it wouldn't be traditional marriage.

02:53:40.280 Okay, so why bother getting...

02:53:42.360 It would be something else.

02:53:43.060 This is like the argument

02:53:43.960 that we were having

02:53:44.640 at the beginning of the show.

02:53:46.460 Which is, again,

02:53:48.720 that then why not just get married for the show 1.00

02:53:51.660 with a pastor in a church

02:53:53.380 and not do the legal paperwork signing afterwards?

02:53:56.360 You're operating in a...

02:53:57.480 Awesome idea for you.

02:54:00.200 You want legal marriage through the state, 0.58

02:54:02.940 and that makes no sense from your view.

02:54:04.680 It's what exists.

02:54:05.480 It's not what I want.

02:54:06.480 It's what exists.

02:54:07.140 You don't have to do that.

02:54:08.420 Brian's frustrated

02:54:09.980 because we're going to go back

02:54:10.780 to this conversation again.

02:54:11.940 Well, I want to be...

02:54:14.200 I almost am, just in this moment,

02:54:17.940 I'm contemplating,

02:54:19.960 why don't we just get you guys

02:54:21.460 a 1v1 debate scheduled for...

02:54:24.500 Because I want to be fair...

02:54:25.200 Because the second they leave the room,

02:54:26.900 they never do the debate.

02:54:27.980 That's why.

02:54:28.440 No, I think she...

02:54:29.360 Are you kidding me?

02:54:30.420 I will happily be back here for you, Andrew.

02:54:32.960 I can't wait to do that.

02:54:34.000 You leave tomorrow, Andrew?

02:54:35.440 I will stay an extra day.

02:54:36.420 I can't...

02:54:36.740 Yeah, I can't stay.

02:54:37.480 Andrew can't do it.

02:54:38.160 You can't stay.

02:54:38.700 You can't stay an extra day.

02:54:39.900 What time's your flight, Andrew? 0.99

02:54:40.880 Darn. 0.94

02:54:41.660 What time's your flight, Andrew? 0.99

02:54:42.740 I think it's like 10...

02:54:43.780 My flight tomorrow's at 6 in the morning,

02:54:45.740 and I'm here.

02:54:47.100 And I want to do this, so...

02:54:47.420 Do you want to extend a day?

02:54:49.120 And we'll do a 1v1 debate?

02:54:50.480 And it will be firecracker? 0.85

02:54:52.200 Mm-hmm.

02:54:52.540 No, I can't extend.

02:54:53.620 Oh, you can't extend a day?

02:54:54.280 No, I can't extend.

02:54:55.260 I have somewhere else I have to be.

02:54:56.540 You just put it on the flight

02:54:56.860 in the American app, you know?

02:54:58.200 He has other...

02:54:59.320 Oh, you have to...

02:54:59.640 I have somewhere else I got to be.

02:55:00.700 He has other engagements.

02:55:01.740 Okay.

02:55:02.240 Well, we'll schedule it for a future time.

02:55:03.880 I love that.

02:55:04.000 Not to say that you guys can't engage tonight,

02:55:06.060 but I do want to be fair,

02:55:08.900 and I want to try to...

02:55:10.420 Promise, though, to invite me back.

02:55:11.560 Oh, I'm...

02:55:12.240 Okay.

02:55:13.560 On our...

02:55:14.140 Yes, I'll come back here.

02:55:15.700 On our end, we're good to go.

02:55:17.100 Great.

02:55:17.640 Fantastic.

02:55:18.360 We'd love to have you back

02:55:19.380 as long as you're fine with it.

02:55:21.440 Yeah.

02:55:22.580 Do you want to do one...

02:55:23.280 You don't seem as excited about that idea.

02:55:25.640 Why is that, Andrew?

02:55:26.640 Because you're not a good debater.

02:55:28.080 You think so?

02:55:29.600 I just got invited back.

02:55:31.620 Yeah, well, that's...

02:55:32.380 I think that that's for Brian's...

02:55:33.960 Brian's entertainment,

02:55:35.560 but I think...

02:55:36.240 I think the second you looked at the camera

02:55:38.180 and basically said that men need to serve women,

02:55:40.420 your whole TPUSA, Femcon thing was exposed. 0.51

02:55:42.580 No, I think men need to serve society, 1.00

02:55:44.360 and as a result,

02:55:45.060 you need to serve women to do that. 0.86

02:55:47.140 That is what you said.

02:55:48.300 Yeah, because it releases a chemical...

02:55:50.780 Do you not want to do that?

02:55:51.640 Releases a chemical...

02:55:53.340 Fast and impressive.

02:55:53.620 And that is the thing,

02:55:55.100 by serving women,

02:55:56.200 that allows them to serve society.

02:55:57.820 No, it's what makes them happy

02:55:59.240 to serve society and their community.

02:56:01.240 They're happy to serve women.

02:56:02.900 To their community, yes.

02:56:04.780 But specifically,

02:56:05.620 they get the chemical from the women. 1.00

02:56:07.500 They get the chemical from action.

02:56:09.380 From making women happy. 1.00

02:56:10.580 But you don't plan...

02:56:11.920 Do you plan to create a community anytime soon

02:56:15.000 or with your husband ever?

02:56:16.260 I'm a part of a community.

02:56:17.360 One, I think communities are strengthened

02:56:19.540 when there are marriages 0.52

02:56:22.180 in that community with kids.

02:56:23.580 Do you want kids?

02:56:24.120 Yes, I want kids.

02:56:25.400 I plan on having kids.

02:56:26.480 Absolutely.

02:56:26.900 I'm going to have kids

02:56:28.040 and maybe in probably three years

02:56:29.580 I'll be back and introduce a little bit.

02:56:30.900 How many kids do you want? 1.00

02:56:32.060 Probably three.

02:56:33.340 Yeah.

02:56:33.640 And do you want to stay home with them

02:56:36.940 for the first five years or so of their life?

02:56:40.040 Yeah.

02:56:40.800 More than that, actually.

02:56:42.040 I plan on doing remote work

02:56:45.340 and also homeschooling

02:56:48.020 and also having my passions

02:56:50.440 and being at home

02:56:51.520 because I want to be the person

02:56:52.900 to instill allies with them.

02:56:54.460 I understand.

02:56:55.240 I'd like to add in on the men serving women

02:56:58.440 and how it brings them happiness.

02:57:00.300 Oh, my God.

02:57:00.980 You know what, though?

02:57:01.500 If you think about...

02:57:02.440 I'll fly Rachel back here 0.82

02:57:04.100 after the 25th

02:57:05.860 if she wants to debate with Rachel.

02:57:07.880 Can Rachel come...

02:57:09.040 After the 25th.

02:57:10.840 Oh, that...

02:57:11.720 Keep going.

02:57:12.460 Okay, we'll figure...

02:57:13.240 Okay, so when it comes to dating

02:57:15.640 and having a long-term relationship,

02:57:18.900 just in my own experience,

02:57:20.060 I've noticed that when a man 0.98

02:57:22.640 is able to help me get a task done or...

02:57:26.540 I apologize.

02:57:26.980 I have to adjust your microphone.

02:57:28.220 Can I have you tilt your microphone down

02:57:29.460 and scoot it this way, like, two inches?

02:57:31.380 I'm just doing some adjustments.

02:57:32.640 Yes.

02:57:32.820 Since you guys switched chairs,

02:57:33.980 scoot the mic that way. 0.94

02:57:35.120 This way?

02:57:35.560 Yes, go ahead.

02:57:37.200 Okay.

02:57:37.740 Go ahead.

02:57:38.400 Okay, so when the man is able

02:57:40.840 to provide maybe a meal for me

02:57:43.460 or help me with a task

02:57:44.920 that maybe I typically don't like to do,

02:57:47.700 like, getting my oil changed

02:57:48.960 or, you know, masculine things

02:57:50.420 that I, as a woman, don't really like,

02:57:53.480 it feels good for the both of us

02:57:55.260 because I'm allowing him

02:57:56.500 to be the caretaker,

02:57:57.640 the provider, the leader,

02:57:58.840 and he is bringing that masculine energy

02:58:03.320 to me and making me feel soft and feminine.

02:58:06.720 So I can see the argument

02:58:08.460 that when men serve women, 0.96

02:58:10.920 they're happier.

02:58:11.460 Have you never had a man, like, 0.57

02:58:14.300 pissed off at you for, like,

02:58:15.880 letting, at least that happens with me,

02:58:17.920 like, very often,

02:58:19.480 that my boyfriend's like,

02:58:20.560 let me do it.

02:58:21.180 Like, let me carry it.

02:58:22.180 Let me grab it.

02:58:23.140 Yes.

02:58:23.540 And they almost get, like,

02:58:24.660 frustrated that you don't let them do it

02:58:26.800 or that you do it themselves.

02:58:27.980 Yeah, because...

02:58:28.340 That is a man in their healthy,

02:58:30.080 masculine energy,

02:58:31.200 and we need more of those kinds of men 0.98

02:58:33.440 for society.

02:58:34.640 I wish we could, like,

02:58:35.540 copy and paste them.

02:58:36.160 I feel like we're propping up men 0.96

02:58:37.620 for being men,

02:58:38.400 but when are we going to prop up women 1.00

02:58:40.040 for being women,

02:58:40.860 I feel like having children

02:58:42.860 is no longer popular.

02:58:45.000 I feel like...

02:58:46.140 I literally don't mean this offensively,

02:58:48.940 but people maybe like you

02:58:50.360 or in your position

02:58:51.260 or women who have a really cool,

02:58:53.940 powerful position

02:58:54.720 or work really hard

02:58:56.380 and make money,

02:58:57.000 so money is power, right?

02:58:58.720 No, it's just freedom.

02:58:59.000 Do you look down on women

02:59:00.500 for not going into the workforce

02:59:03.500 that just wanted to be...

02:59:05.420 You know, and maybe you don't

02:59:06.520 look down on them,

02:59:07.220 but I feel like it's popular and trendy,

02:59:09.440 and it's kind of making people

02:59:11.100 feel sad or bad about themselves

02:59:12.880 for giving up

02:59:13.760 and becoming a mother, 0.97

02:59:14.940 and I feel like that's how

02:59:15.820 society's phrasing it nowadays.

02:59:17.180 Yeah, and I hate that so much,

02:59:18.200 and I don't like that.

02:59:18.960 I really do respect women

02:59:21.960 more than anything

02:59:22.720 that decide to be full-time moms, 1.00

02:59:25.460 like stay-at-home moms 1.00

02:59:26.560 being the person that cooks,

02:59:28.260 cleans, looks after their kids

02:59:29.560 and does that full-time.

02:59:31.680 Absolutely.

02:59:32.620 You know, I'm actually trying

02:59:33.920 to get them more respect

02:59:35.180 from the men who say,

02:59:36.300 oh, she just stays at home 1.00

02:59:37.940 and doesn't work.

02:59:39.460 That is the point

02:59:40.340 that I'm making here.

02:59:41.200 She does work. 0.98

02:59:42.060 In fact, she doesn't...

02:59:43.320 She works around the clock,

02:59:44.700 not just a nine-to-five,

02:59:46.460 eight-hour shift

02:59:47.120 that you clock in

02:59:47.960 and clock out of.

02:59:49.220 And so I want men 0.72

02:59:50.640 to value that kind of work

02:59:52.740 so that when they come

02:59:54.080 into a union with a woman,

02:59:56.080 they don't just think

02:59:57.060 to themselves,

02:59:57.780 oh, I'm going to pay

02:59:58.460 for this stuff,

02:59:59.260 and they're going to...

03:00:00.600 I got to let other people...

03:00:02.420 You know, yeah.

03:00:03.060 I got to let other people

03:00:04.040 come in at this point.

03:00:06.120 All right.

03:00:06.720 Did anybody on the previous conversation,

03:00:09.140 did anybody...

03:00:10.260 So basically, look,

03:00:11.100 we were talking about...

03:00:12.260 It originated one of your notes there.

03:00:14.800 Basically, my position is

03:00:16.180 I don't believe...

03:00:18.000 Women who are not trad 1.00

03:00:20.460 don't deserve...

03:00:21.460 Excuse me.

03:00:21.960 Women who are not traditional 1.00

03:00:22.940 do not deserve

03:00:23.620 traditional treatment.

03:00:25.060 That's my position.

03:00:26.520 So traditional treatment

03:00:27.480 would encompass chivalry.

03:00:28.640 That would encompass

03:00:30.000 paying for dates,

03:00:33.440 observing the sidewalk rule,

03:00:35.740 et cetera, et cetera.

03:00:36.960 Men don't want to do that. 1.00

03:00:39.520 What do you mean?

03:00:40.120 If you're not traditional woman, 0.92

03:00:42.140 they don't want to do that for you.

03:00:44.000 If they have that knowledge,

03:00:45.840 you're not...

03:00:47.000 Yeah, or women still expect it. 1.00

03:00:48.540 That's good.

03:00:49.080 So with all the things

03:00:49.860 that I do do

03:00:50.760 as a non-traditional woman,

03:00:52.020 though,

03:00:52.220 I don't deserve

03:00:53.340 that gentlemanly

03:00:54.980 chivalrous behavior.

03:00:56.520 I don't think...

03:00:57.080 So I don't think you deserve it.

03:00:58.400 You don't really know me

03:00:59.140 or what I do, but...

03:01:00.560 Well, I mean,

03:01:01.240 I looked online a little bit,

03:01:03.080 so I have some understanding.

03:01:03.960 Which is my online presence,

03:01:05.300 so it has nothing to do

03:01:06.660 with who I really am

03:01:08.100 as a person

03:01:08.660 and what I do in my...

03:01:10.240 for men,

03:01:10.880 and, you know,

03:01:11.800 our online personas

03:01:12.580 are not us.

03:01:14.040 I think as...

03:01:14.780 Hold on. 0.98

03:01:15.180 That's ridiculous. 0.99

03:01:16.460 That's ridiculous. 0.99

03:01:17.340 That's a... 0.97

03:01:17.900 I would say it's a piece of us.

03:01:19.580 Yeah, no, no.

03:01:20.120 It's a piece of us.

03:01:21.100 But we're not portraying

03:01:21.920 our realities

03:01:22.880 on social media.

03:01:23.680 I don't play a character.

03:01:26.360 I don't play a character.

03:01:27.720 I think some people

03:01:29.440 do play characters,

03:01:30.220 but you're really... 0.51

03:01:30.840 Well, such as a sex worker, 0.78

03:01:31.620 you can't just be, like, 0.91

03:01:32.800 yourself.

03:01:34.080 I do.

03:01:34.460 I am myself.

03:01:35.720 I am exactly who I am.

03:01:37.340 You don't ever play it up.

03:01:38.920 You're always

03:01:39.640 your most vulnerable,

03:01:41.160 real self.

03:01:41.840 You treat your clients

03:01:42.740 just like you would treat,

03:01:43.740 like, maybe a man.

03:01:45.340 Yeah?

03:01:45.960 I mean,

03:01:46.580 I don't lie

03:01:47.840 about my positions.

03:01:49.200 Even though Rachel

03:01:49.800 thinks I'm, like,

03:01:50.500 faking this,

03:01:51.340 I swear to God,

03:01:51.820 I'm not.

03:01:51.860 Yeah, I don't lie either.

03:01:53.580 I mean,

03:01:53.900 I don't tell them, like,

03:01:55.280 what's, like,

03:01:56.460 super ultra personal things

03:01:58.060 about, like, health

03:01:58.880 or something.

03:01:59.600 You don't treat them

03:01:59.620 like your friends.

03:02:00.300 I treat social media,

03:02:01.300 like, basically,

03:02:01.980 like a friend, yeah.

03:02:02.940 Okay.

03:02:03.240 Like a close friend

03:02:04.040 that you're in person with

03:02:05.180 and sharing real life ideas.

03:02:07.720 I'm very open.

03:02:08.640 Okay, we understand

03:02:09.620 some sexual...

03:02:09.720 But that's a personal conversation

03:02:10.340 that you might be having

03:02:11.140 with that customer,

03:02:11.960 not your portrayal online.

03:02:13.340 It's so immaterial.

03:02:14.620 It's so immaterial

03:02:16.140 to the conversation.

03:02:17.140 Yes, some sex workers 1.00

03:02:18.340 are playing a character.

03:02:19.680 Some sex workers

03:02:20.880 are genuine 1.00

03:02:21.460 and it's a fucking 1.00

03:02:22.380 representation of them. 1.00

03:02:23.740 That's besides the point.

03:02:25.060 The point here is,

03:02:26.020 is, again,

03:02:26.900 regardless of, you know,

03:02:28.200 how much it encompasses

03:02:29.240 your true self

03:02:30.160 or whatever,

03:02:31.080 by virtue of you

03:02:32.020 being engaged

03:02:32.760 in these sorts of things,

03:02:34.100 I believe you're not

03:02:35.560 holding up your end

03:02:36.420 of the deal

03:02:37.120 of the trad deal.

03:02:38.820 So I don't think,

03:02:39.360 yeah, look,

03:02:40.060 do men still do it? 0.99

03:02:42.260 Do men...

03:02:42.760 On all these women.

03:02:43.320 Do men...

03:02:44.000 What?

03:02:44.740 You're missing out. 0.97

03:02:45.360 Sex workers are really... 0.93

03:02:46.800 What?

03:02:47.020 Being kind to all these women.

03:02:48.760 Didn't say that.

03:02:49.300 You're missing out on...

03:02:49.700 It's not kind.

03:02:50.220 I didn't say that.

03:02:50.840 Men are being respectful

03:02:52.460 and chivalrous.

03:02:53.700 No, no, no.

03:02:53.900 But there's millions

03:02:54.500 of other women

03:02:55.180 that are just the same.

03:02:56.380 Hold on.

03:02:57.340 Just chivalrous.

03:02:58.140 Just chivalrous.

03:02:59.340 Oh my God, 1.00

03:03:00.220 this fucking panel. 1.00

03:03:00.980 Not all humans 1.00

03:03:01.660 are traditional.

03:03:02.720 Like, not...

03:03:03.200 That's fine.

03:03:04.060 Regardless of gender.

03:03:04.660 Then don't...

03:03:05.420 Then don't...

03:03:06.600 If you're not

03:03:07.260 a traditional woman,

03:03:08.540 don't hold men 1.00

03:03:09.560 to a traditional standard.

03:03:10.580 Some truly find joy

03:03:11.520 in, like,

03:03:12.220 reciprocating those values

03:03:13.800 regardless if they're

03:03:14.520 traditional or not.

03:03:15.440 Like, my boyfriend,

03:03:16.140 for example,

03:03:16.680 is very, like...

03:03:17.420 He's very chivalrous.

03:03:18.540 So you want your cake

03:03:19.540 and to eat it, too.

03:03:20.360 I'm not a single man.

03:03:21.040 You can have

03:03:21.400 tracial values, too,

03:03:22.440 and not be fully tracial.

03:03:23.620 I was very transparent

03:03:24.580 with him from the start,

03:03:25.620 and I think that's why

03:03:26.460 I get chivalry.

03:03:27.800 Like, I genuinely, like,

03:03:29.700 sat there for seven months

03:03:30.880 and talked to him

03:03:31.460 about, like, my boundaries

03:03:32.540 and my values.

03:03:32.620 Sorry.

03:03:32.920 Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop.

03:03:36.000 I've repeated myself

03:03:37.160 multiple times.

03:03:39.080 I acknowledge that women 1.00

03:03:40.260 who are sex workers

03:03:41.220 can still get chivalry.

03:03:43.480 There's no dispute

03:03:44.340 that there are men

03:03:45.440 who will still do the meta,

03:03:47.000 most effective tactics available.

03:03:49.120 So, yes, there are still men.

03:03:50.580 You could be the most 1.00

03:03:51.360 degenerate woman ever 1.00

03:03:52.760 and participate in a fucking 1.00

03:03:55.280 bukkake gangbang 1.00

03:03:56.780 every single day of your life.

03:03:58.260 Some guy, yes,

03:03:59.360 will do those traditional things,

03:04:01.100 will pay for dates,

03:04:02.240 will be chivalrous,

03:04:03.260 et cetera, et cetera.

03:04:03.860 That's not in dispute.

03:04:06.140 What I'm saying is

03:04:07.180 I'm looking like the chessboard.

03:04:09.660 I'm talking about the chessboard.

03:04:11.200 I'm talking about the landscape.

03:04:13.080 I don't think you deserve it,

03:04:14.460 and that's a separate conversation.

03:04:15.920 Do you still get it?

03:04:16.980 Does your boyfriend

03:04:17.520 still pay for your dates?

03:04:18.460 I don't think you deserve

03:04:19.260 a good woman,

03:04:20.180 but, I mean,

03:04:20.720 you might get a good woman 0.92

03:04:21.860 to your standards.

03:04:23.380 It doesn't mean that

03:04:24.320 I don't think you

03:04:25.000 don't deserve love

03:04:26.680 or anything like that,

03:04:27.780 but, like, you know,

03:04:28.800 what I, like,

03:04:29.940 and we have different values

03:04:31.480 on, like,

03:04:31.880 what a good woman is, too. 0.91

03:04:33.420 So, like,

03:04:34.220 what, like,

03:04:35.060 I think is a good woman

03:04:36.080 might differ from your views.

03:04:38.040 Can I try, like,

03:04:38.900 maybe a different approach?

03:04:41.020 Go ahead.

03:04:41.140 So, the idea that

03:04:41.840 Brian's talking about,

03:04:43.160 when you talk about,

03:04:43.780 like, kindness,

03:04:45.040 things like that,

03:04:45.660 kindness,

03:04:46.460 being nice,

03:04:47.580 maybe,

03:04:48.520 you know,

03:04:49.560 various things like that,

03:04:51.300 I think that

03:04:52.280 reciprocating those,

03:04:54.420 or maybe we could just

03:04:55.500 refer to them as manners,

03:04:56.940 like having manners,

03:04:58.080 right?

03:04:58.600 You're nice,

03:04:59.360 so I'm nice.

03:05:00.060 You're polite,

03:05:00.680 so I'm polite,

03:05:01.860 right?

03:05:02.180 You're kind,

03:05:02.860 so I return a kindness.

03:05:04.460 I think you have to

03:05:05.040 separate and untangle

03:05:06.140 those ideas

03:05:07.360 from the idea of chivalry.

03:05:09.340 Chivalry is the idea 0.85

03:05:10.340 that men are going

03:05:11.660 to go fight the wars

03:05:12.700 if the draft comes.

03:05:13.800 It's the idea

03:05:14.220 that women are going 1.00

03:05:14.880 to get the lifeboats,

03:05:15.920 the idea that,

03:05:16.620 Yeah, to serve women.

03:05:17.660 Well, it's the idea

03:05:18.340 that in general public,

03:05:21.000 if there's a fire,

03:05:22.320 their expectation

03:05:23.880 is that they need

03:05:24.700 to run in, right?

03:05:26.120 That they used to be

03:05:27.180 part of bucket brigades

03:05:28.240 that did just that.

03:05:29.740 Those are expectations

03:05:31.080 that are more in line

03:05:31.940 with chivalry.

03:05:33.100 And so what Brian's asking,

03:05:34.800 and I would just put it

03:05:35.540 down to the core issue,

03:05:37.320 is why men should 0.99

03:05:38.500 have any expectation

03:05:39.340 to do any of those things

03:05:40.320 ever.

03:05:40.940 If it's egalitarian

03:05:42.580 and we have equity,

03:05:45.060 why should there even

03:05:46.000 be an expectation

03:05:46.820 socially that men do?

03:05:48.120 They don't have to.

03:05:48.920 Exactly.

03:05:50.220 What did you want

03:05:51.360 in exchange for that?

03:05:52.700 That's what my question

03:05:53.760 was when I was sitting

03:05:54.540 over there.

03:05:54.980 What is the expectation?

03:05:56.480 Yeah, so I think...

03:05:57.340 Well, that's what I'm asking.

03:05:58.880 Yeah.

03:05:59.400 So you want to ask us it.

03:06:01.520 What do you...

03:06:02.300 So again, I guess

03:06:03.060 I'll go back to this.

03:06:04.380 If we can say men should... 0.93

03:06:06.520 No, men do 0.92

03:06:07.220 because they're the ones

03:06:08.240 that set it up.

03:06:08.920 Men are the ones 1.00

03:06:10.180 that run into buildings

03:06:11.400 because they want to

03:06:12.220 and they're the ones

03:06:12.860 that set up the lifeboat system.

03:06:14.080 From a dating lens,

03:06:15.360 it's paying for first dates,

03:06:16.660 sacrifice, provide,

03:06:18.080 doing all those things,

03:06:19.260 chivalry.

03:06:19.820 Yes.

03:06:20.220 That's what I was asking.

03:06:21.740 So I'm asking

03:06:22.440 if men should do XYZ, 0.65

03:06:24.300 what should women do? 1.00

03:06:26.660 I'm asking you

03:06:27.360 what do you want them to do?

03:06:29.520 Men have restricted 1.00

03:06:30.320 women's growth

03:06:31.080 in the past.

03:06:31.760 I'm asking you the question.

03:06:33.380 I have an answer

03:06:34.160 to that as well.

03:06:35.000 I'm asking you the question.

03:06:36.340 Stop reverse.

03:06:36.980 I already answered it

03:06:37.240 while I was there,

03:06:37.920 but if you want,

03:06:38.440 I can answer it again.

03:06:39.840 We're starting with you

03:06:40.520 and we're going to skip you.

03:06:41.340 What am I answering then?

03:06:42.720 Okay.

03:06:43.120 If you can say,

03:06:44.200 if you might say...

03:06:45.060 What is a virtue,

03:06:45.700 in my opinion,

03:06:46.800 like what should a woman do 1.00

03:06:48.080 to gain that?

03:06:49.480 To gain that chivalry?

03:06:50.980 If we say men

03:06:52.340 should be chivalry,

03:06:53.560 should pay for dates,

03:06:54.260 should do these things,

03:06:55.440 what should women do? 1.00

03:06:57.720 Okay.

03:06:58.340 So present yourself

03:07:00.360 kindly,

03:07:02.000 respectfully.

03:07:05.020 Men are the leaders.

03:07:05.900 Men would do those things too. 0.81

03:07:07.900 Wait.

03:07:08.360 I ask you for what

03:07:09.320 women should do 1.00

03:07:10.160 and you say,

03:07:10.920 men are the leaders?

03:07:12.440 Yeah.

03:07:12.840 Well, that's why we have

03:07:14.160 this chivalrous word

03:07:15.040 for women,

03:07:15.640 for men

03:07:16.140 and not women. 0.98

03:07:17.140 I ask a woman 0.99

03:07:17.700 what should women do 1.00

03:07:18.520 and she says,

03:07:19.760 men are leaders.

03:07:21.260 I open the door for men. 0.98

03:07:22.180 So something men should do.

03:07:23.700 Okay, men are leaders.

03:07:24.620 Something men should do.

03:07:25.380 Thank you for answering the question. 0.99

03:07:27.160 Oh, shit. 0.99

03:07:28.220 Okay. 0.99

03:07:28.840 Thank you for the gifted.

03:07:30.100 Oh my God.

03:07:32.000 Under dirt and soil.

03:07:34.040 We need a bottle of champagne.

03:07:35.220 We need a champagne pop up.

03:07:36.500 It's not quite the threshold

03:07:37.740 for the champagne,

03:07:38.580 but under dirt and soil,

03:07:40.760 a hundred subs over there 0.63

03:07:42.660 on Twitch.

03:07:43.440 That's like $600,

03:07:45.220 $700 or something like that.

03:07:46.520 Thank you, dude. 1.00

03:07:47.120 You're a fucking legend. 1.00

03:07:48.280 I'm going to give you 1.00

03:07:48.940 VIP for that.

03:07:49.880 Hold on.

03:07:51.180 What should women do? 1.00

03:07:53.400 I think that we should

03:07:54.520 reciprocate based upon

03:07:55.920 their preferences.

03:07:57.180 Depending if it aligns

03:07:58.980 with our preferences as well.

03:08:01.320 If that doesn't make sense to you,

03:08:02.900 I understand it's not

03:08:04.020 how you were possibly raised.

03:08:05.640 Wait, can you straighten the mic

03:08:07.340 so it's pointing straight

03:08:08.180 at your face?

03:08:08.660 After that,

03:08:09.140 I'll answer your question directly.

03:08:11.000 So women should reciprocate. 1.00

03:08:13.700 Let me ask you a question.

03:08:14.780 Who should pay for first dates,

03:08:15.800 men or women?

03:08:16.220 I prefer a man to pay 1.00

03:08:20.200 for the first date,

03:08:20.940 but if they want to go 50-50,

03:08:22.720 then I will go 50-50

03:08:24.180 depending on how the date goes

03:08:25.840 and if I'm feeling the vibe.

03:08:27.820 So the guy has to make up for it

03:08:29.000 if he goes 50.

03:08:29.560 He has to be way more attractive

03:08:32.060 and then you'll tolerate 50-50.

03:08:35.900 No, it's not about like...

03:08:38.280 I mean, physical attraction

03:08:39.320 does play a part.

03:08:40.220 I think that stands for everyone.

03:08:43.000 I don't know if that stands for you,

03:08:45.260 but...

03:08:45.480 In the past three years,

03:08:46.200 how many like...

03:08:47.760 How old are you?

03:08:48.400 You're 26?

03:08:49.160 Yes.

03:08:49.560 How many first dates

03:08:50.220 have you been on your entire life?

03:08:51.500 I couldn't count, honestly.

03:08:55.360 A lot, yeah.

03:08:56.300 I've been on a lot of dates.

03:08:57.680 It doesn't mean that I...

03:08:58.440 Do you...

03:08:59.200 How often do you go 50-50?

03:09:01.460 Or do they always pay?

03:09:02.800 Mostly always pay?

03:09:04.600 I think that...

03:09:05.960 I don't know.

03:09:07.220 I just...

03:09:08.080 I went through a relationship

03:09:08.980 where I was paying for everything

03:09:10.020 and I didn't like it.

03:09:12.520 Did he pay for...

03:09:13.000 Did he pay for the first date,

03:09:15.120 even that guy?

03:09:16.140 He...

03:09:16.660 He bought me pizza.

03:09:20.480 Yeah, he bought me...

03:09:21.480 He paid for the first date, I guess.

03:09:23.120 It wasn't really that great of a date.

03:09:24.320 I acknowledge that women 1.00

03:09:25.380 can find themselves

03:09:26.380 in non-traditional relationship dynamics,

03:09:29.340 but I'm speaking in general

03:09:30.440 of all the...

03:09:31.220 You said you've gone on

03:09:32.020 a lot of first dates.

03:09:32.960 They usually pay first.

03:09:33.560 They usually...

03:09:33.920 But I'm confused.

03:09:35.060 You say reciprocate.

03:09:36.360 So the reciprocation

03:09:37.420 in this instance would be

03:09:39.080 if the man pays for the first date,

03:09:41.160 well, I mean,

03:09:42.240 reciprocation would just be going 50-50,

03:09:44.040 I guess,

03:09:44.420 or...

03:09:45.720 Or paying for the second date.

03:09:46.400 You would occasionally pay

03:09:47.400 for first dates, I guess.

03:09:48.680 I mean...

03:09:49.200 Acknowledging the wage gap

03:09:50.460 that plays a part in society...

03:09:52.420 What?

03:09:53.800 ...is important, honestly.

03:09:55.360 You probably out-earn

03:09:56.120 all the guys you date. 1.00

03:09:57.360 What are you fucking talking about? 0.98

03:09:58.100 Not always. 0.99

03:09:58.200 Denying a wage gap, though?

03:09:59.440 Yeah.

03:09:59.940 There's no wage gap.

03:10:00.800 There is no wage gap.

03:10:01.340 There's no wage gap. 0.99

03:10:01.880 That's totally fucking bogus. 0.97

03:10:03.200 It varies. 0.99

03:10:04.020 There's a wage gap.

03:10:04.260 Depending on the field.

03:10:05.020 No, there's no wage gap.

03:10:06.860 There's a work gap.

03:10:07.640 There's a work gap.

03:10:09.080 Do women earn more than men 1.00

03:10:10.500 as sex workers?

03:10:12.760 I think it depends

03:10:13.980 on the sex worker.

03:10:14.860 On average.

03:10:16.160 There's a lot of male sex workers 0.99

03:10:17.500 that don't get investigated

03:10:19.400 the way y'all investigate

03:10:20.360 women's earnings, honestly.

03:10:21.880 So I couldn't possibly say,

03:10:23.260 but I've known male sex workers

03:10:24.720 that have made way more than me.

03:10:26.020 Who's the male Sophie Wren?

03:10:28.800 I don't really watch... 0.99

03:10:30.340 You should ask a gay guy, probably. 1.00

03:10:31.680 It's actually fair. 0.73

03:10:35.160 We're not really a gay person.

03:10:37.220 So they're both appealing

03:10:38.240 to the same demographic men.

03:10:40.460 I have a question for her,

03:10:41.860 if that's all right.

03:10:43.640 You've said that you used to...

03:10:46.200 You were in a relationship

03:10:47.220 where you paid for most of the dates

03:10:49.000 with that guy, right?

03:10:50.080 And that you didn't like it.

03:10:51.980 Is it...

03:10:52.700 Do you think it's because

03:10:53.740 paying for dates

03:10:55.880 or taking on that role

03:10:57.460 makes you less attracted to the man?

03:10:59.720 So if a man wants

03:11:00.740 to be more attractive,

03:11:01.680 to a woman,

03:11:02.900 they would at least be able

03:11:04.220 to pay for a meal, right?

03:11:07.100 I basically felt like

03:11:08.260 I was enabling him

03:11:09.260 and I was restricting him

03:11:11.660 from growing

03:11:12.200 by providing everything.

03:11:14.340 And I pretty much was.

03:11:15.420 He started to expect me

03:11:16.440 to pay for everything

03:11:17.140 and I don't think that...

03:11:18.220 That's sexy, right?

03:11:19.100 W him.

03:11:19.860 Good for him.

03:11:20.920 Yeah.

03:11:21.340 Really quick here.

03:11:22.580 A couple...

03:11:23.220 We didn't even do the intro. 0.98

03:11:24.540 Holy shit, I totally forgot. 0.97

03:11:26.300 Get ready to do the intro, Nathan. 0.98

03:11:28.400 I can't believe I forgot this.

03:11:30.520 Okay, here.

03:11:31.900 Just pull up Twitch right now

03:11:32.860 really quick.

03:11:33.900 Guys, we have like 2,200 or something

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03:11:53.060 I'm holding the...

03:11:53.880 Oh my goodness,

03:11:54.740 the chat is on fire.

03:11:56.500 Oh my God, they're on fire. 1.00

03:11:57.860 Holy shit. 0.99

03:11:58.400 I'm holding the Twitch hostage. 0.99

03:12:01.120 Nathan, if you can,

03:12:01.900 on the stream yard.

03:12:03.260 Here, pull this. 0.99

03:12:04.040 Like, pull that up.

03:12:05.080 That thing I just pulled up,

03:12:06.060 I already did it.

03:12:06.640 Just...

03:12:07.280 Let me see three more Prime subs

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03:12:10.540 Oh.

03:12:11.380 They're just popping.

03:12:12.480 Yo, guys,

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03:12:21.520 those of you on Twitch,

03:12:22.420 most Twitch streamers,

03:12:23.400 you know,

03:12:23.620 they're playing video games.

03:12:24.620 They're in their bedroom.

03:12:25.540 They're playing Fortnite.

03:12:26.580 They're playing World of Warcraft.

03:12:28.260 Classic, by the way.

03:12:29.040 TBC just came out.

03:12:31.820 It's...

03:12:32.300 Most people who do streams,

03:12:34.160 not that there's anything

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03:12:35.880 You know, it's...

03:12:36.780 There's not a lot of

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03:12:39.100 There's not a lot of...

03:12:39.900 I don't want to be...

03:12:42.040 There's not a lot of production cost

03:12:43.660 to just, like,

03:12:44.320 stream video games

03:12:45.020 in your bedroom.

03:12:45.560 Not that I'm throwing shade

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03:12:49.480 But this is a more

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03:12:52.820 So if you guys can just show

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03:12:55.320 Also, we run minimal ads

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03:12:58.700 We do per hour

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03:13:22.400 You guys are fucking legends. 1.00

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03:13:42.400 Thank you for the support.

03:13:43.020 And then, Nathan,

03:13:44.300 go over to the very first one

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03:13:47.720 I totally forgot to do my intro.

03:13:48.620 Can I answer the question real quick

03:13:50.240 when you're done?

03:13:50.980 Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course.

03:13:51.720 Let me just do the intro really quick

03:13:52.860 that I totally forgot to do.

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03:15:47.140 Oh, wait.

03:15:47.620 Hide these.

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03:15:54.320 Oh, follow my nonprofit movement,

03:15:57.500 Big Labia Matter or BLM for short.

03:15:58.900 It's really the pressing issue of our time.

03:16:00.920 Iran, Venezuela, Middle East, Ukraine,

03:16:05.240 immigration, ICE, abortion, 1.00

03:16:07.620 fucking all this shit. 1.00

03:16:09.260 That's a, that's, 1.00

03:16:11.360 don't worry about that shit. 1.00

03:16:12.440 This is the pressing issue of our time. 1.00

03:16:14.380 10,000 labiaplasties a year in the United States.

03:16:17.060 Absolute tragedy.

03:16:17.940 These women are cutting off their parts. 1.00

03:16:19.700 It's very upsetting to me.

03:16:20.800 It's really the, I'm on a crusade.

03:16:22.580 Anyways, so if you guys can't catch the full shows,

03:16:26.020 we got the Clips channel.

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03:16:28.680 We have a discord, discord.gg slash whatever.

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03:16:31.880 Pull up the thing in the stream yard for the discord.

03:16:36.260 Yeah.

03:16:36.780 Discord.gg slash whatever.

03:16:38.440 Behind the scenes, hate mail, research, studies,

03:16:40.320 a bunch of other cool stuff.

03:16:42.020 If you're my Caucasian,

03:16:42.880 you will join the discord and that's it.

03:16:46.360 Go ahead, Andrew.

03:16:47.080 Okay.

03:16:48.020 So I want to answer your question

03:16:49.980 because you've asked it a bunch of times

03:16:51.560 and you feel like it's unsatisfactory.

03:16:53.340 Yeah.

03:16:53.600 So I just want to make sure.

03:16:55.520 Yeah.

03:16:55.960 So I want to make sure that we get it right

03:16:57.440 before I answer it so that I have it correct.

03:16:59.680 We're going to untangle two ideas.

03:17:01.780 Idea one is like chivalry and dating

03:17:04.440 could be slightly different

03:17:05.900 than what we see in the general population for chivalry,

03:17:08.460 which is women get the boats, 1.00

03:17:10.200 men get the draft, blah, blah, blah.

03:17:12.240 Men are expected to run in the burning buildings,

03:17:14.280 this type of thing.

03:17:15.000 Can we untangle that?

03:17:16.580 Okay, good.

03:17:16.940 But so I think that if it's the expectation

03:17:20.300 that women want to have those additional privileges, 1.00

03:17:23.320 your question...

03:17:24.060 The ones you just mentioned,

03:17:24.860 the whole like the boats and the...

03:17:27.160 Yeah, yeah.

03:17:27.860 All that stuff.

03:17:29.000 Women want to have... 1.00

03:17:29.720 Expectations?

03:17:30.600 No, because men are the ones 0.99

03:17:32.500 that set that standard.

03:17:33.560 Okay.

03:17:34.080 I got it.

03:17:35.400 Yeah.

03:17:35.640 Okay.

03:17:35.880 So there's no reason for men 1.00

03:17:36.940 to keep holding those standards up then.

03:17:38.860 There's no reason for them to want to,

03:17:40.500 yet they still continue to do it.

03:17:42.000 Got it.

03:17:42.360 Okay, so what my argument is,

03:17:44.660 is just this.

03:17:45.300 If women want to see chivalry, 1.00

03:17:47.600 if they want to have men continue in those roles,

03:17:50.600 then women need to take a back seat on authority. 1.00

03:17:54.300 Things like the right to vote,

03:17:55.760 stuff like that.

03:17:57.140 I disagree.

03:17:57.460 I bet you would love that.

03:17:59.000 I think that if they move...

03:18:00.460 I think that if they...

03:18:01.420 Well, only if it's...

03:18:02.760 I'm sure you would love to take away my right to vote.

03:18:03.700 Only if it's the case...

03:18:05.160 Only if it's the case

03:18:06.980 that you want to see men continue in those functions.

03:18:11.260 So if it's not the case

03:18:12.940 that you don't want to see men continue in those functions,

03:18:15.220 then fine.

03:18:16.340 I think they want to continue in those functions themselves.

03:18:17.920 Okay, hang on.

03:18:18.380 Let me make the argument

03:18:19.320 and then you can respond.

03:18:21.000 Yeah.

03:18:21.760 If it's not the case

03:18:22.860 that you want to see them in those functions,

03:18:25.180 then...

03:18:25.680 Who's...

03:18:26.020 If it's not the case

03:18:27.260 that you want to see them in those functions,

03:18:28.860 then yeah, sure.

03:18:29.960 You can grow boss all day long.

03:18:31.760 Okay.

03:18:32.020 But if it is...

03:18:32.720 Hang on.

03:18:33.180 Almost done.

03:18:33.840 But if it is the case that you do,

03:18:35.500 right,

03:18:36.140 then I think that rescinding autonomy

03:18:38.040 or rescinding authority to men

03:18:40.020 is the benefit to men 0.99

03:18:41.740 in that relationship.

03:18:42.920 Okay, let's say I didn't want to continue

03:18:44.160 to see men in those roles

03:18:45.940 and have those expectations.

03:18:47.600 Would they continue to do it themselves?

03:18:49.700 Yes.

03:18:50.380 Because they want to.

03:18:51.560 Because strong men

03:18:53.540 in our society

03:18:54.860 do voluntarily take up those roles

03:18:57.860 and do create those kinds of systems

03:19:00.520 to protect women and children.

03:19:03.100 So even if I was a...

03:19:04.420 So why should they continue to do so, though?

03:19:06.380 Well, they want to do so.

03:19:08.460 But let's assume...

03:19:09.280 I think...

03:19:09.480 And you're asking me

03:19:10.140 why they should continue to do so?

03:19:12.020 Yeah.

03:19:12.120 Yeah.

03:19:12.400 Because they're playing their role

03:19:14.220 in society,

03:19:15.480 in a functional society,

03:19:16.580 just like women are playing their role 1.00

03:19:18.600 by being mothers,

03:19:20.820 by maintaining households,

03:19:22.860 by holding a community together,

03:19:24.620 by making sure the kids are involved.

03:19:27.920 Yeah.

03:19:28.120 So then men should always assume 0.99

03:19:29.620 the higher risk.

03:19:31.060 Higher risk.

03:19:31.960 Yeah.

03:19:32.300 Hang on.

03:19:32.780 Hang on.

03:19:33.160 Hang on.

03:19:33.560 Just let me ask the question

03:19:36.500 before you answer it.

03:19:38.340 Men should assume 1.00

03:19:39.100 the higher risk of things like...

03:19:40.820 In your opinion.

03:19:41.580 Okay.

03:19:42.120 Well, I'm sorry.

03:19:43.240 Do you have any risk

03:19:44.420 ever of being drafted?

03:19:45.120 Just your opinion!

03:19:47.300 Do I have a risk

03:19:48.400 of being drafted?

03:19:49.740 No.

03:19:49.980 Do you have any kind of risk

03:19:51.980 that women go through

03:19:53.280 as in, you know,

03:19:54.340 the number one reason

03:19:57.280 for female violence is men? 0.97

03:19:59.240 So if I go outside right now,

03:20:00.960 this is a perfect...

03:20:01.700 But hang on.

03:20:02.160 Wait, wait, because you asked me, right?

03:20:04.080 If I go outside right now,

03:20:05.700 we're kind of in a sketchy part

03:20:07.960 of California, right?

03:20:09.220 You're vulnerable.

03:20:10.180 I am more vulnerable

03:20:11.220 and at risk

03:20:12.140 than you would be,

03:20:12.920 yes or no, right?

03:20:14.120 Yeah, that would be indeed the case.

03:20:15.540 So I run more risks

03:20:17.060 just as a result

03:20:18.880 of being a woman.

03:20:20.180 However...

03:20:20.700 Every day.

03:20:21.020 Correct.

03:20:21.420 Every single day. 0.61

03:20:22.400 And I hate that men

03:20:24.100 don't understand that.

03:20:25.200 Okay, but those are socially...

03:20:25.600 socially avoidable risks.

03:20:27.100 Socially avoidable by leaving?

03:20:29.140 Yeah.

03:20:29.660 Stay inside forever.

03:20:30.600 Hang on, chill out.

03:20:32.140 Let me make the argument

03:20:33.040 and then respond.

03:20:34.480 Okay, so the argument's just this.

03:20:36.380 It is the case 0.89

03:20:37.400 that if there is a draft

03:20:38.820 and a man avoids the draft,

03:20:40.700 right?

03:20:40.960 How often does that happen

03:20:42.260 versus how often

03:20:43.160 do I go outside?

03:20:43.680 Can I at least ask 1.00

03:20:44.940 the fucking question? 1.00

03:20:46.340 Go for it. 1.00

03:20:47.140 If it is the case

03:20:48.400 that a man is drafted,

03:20:49.560 he avoids the draft,

03:20:50.220 he goes to jail, okay?

03:20:52.100 Your individualistic risk

03:20:54.000 right now in Santa Barbara

03:20:55.460 walking around

03:20:56.260 in the middle of the night

03:20:57.180 is almost negligible.

03:20:58.360 If you take the averages

03:21:00.380 and then only associate

03:21:02.060 yourself with the average,

03:21:03.220 I can say your risk

03:21:04.000 is statistically higher

03:21:05.020 than a man.

03:21:06.040 Sure, that is the case.

03:21:08.020 But why should men 0.96

03:21:09.100 be punished for that?

03:21:10.380 Well, why are men

03:21:11.180 punishing other men

03:21:12.140 by being the ones

03:21:12.900 setting up a draft system

03:21:14.060 to send other men to war?

03:21:14.860 This is exactly my point.

03:21:16.560 So my point would be, though,

03:21:18.280 that if it was the case

03:21:19.560 that we eliminated the draft,

03:21:21.240 that actually would benefit

03:21:25.040 you the least, right?

03:21:26.740 Say it again?

03:21:27.060 Because I didn't hear

03:21:28.280 the last part.

03:21:28.860 That would benefit women 0.95

03:21:29.860 the least if we eliminated

03:21:31.120 the draft, right?

03:21:32.100 How would it not benefit me

03:21:34.240 if rich and elite powerful men

03:21:38.020 are sending other men

03:21:39.480 to die for different interests?

03:21:42.080 Because if it's the case

03:21:43.560 that you're...

03:21:44.100 I don't want that, by the way.

03:21:45.020 I want men to be here

03:21:46.120 and not go out and die in wars.

03:21:47.980 I get it.

03:21:48.560 But if it is the case

03:21:49.600 that the United States

03:21:50.740 is invaded, you may need...

03:21:52.020 Which is very rare

03:21:52.940 because now we do

03:21:53.860 immigration by technology.

03:21:55.120 You won't even let me

03:21:56.420 get the thought out.

03:21:58.120 Sure, I'll let you finish.

03:21:59.020 I'm literally willing

03:21:59.840 to let you finish your thoughts

03:22:00.920 if you're willing

03:22:01.340 to let me finish mine.

03:22:02.200 Go ahead.

03:22:02.800 So if it's the case

03:22:03.820 to answer your question

03:22:04.880 that we needed

03:22:05.500 to levy troops quickly,

03:22:07.140 right?

03:22:07.800 What would be the best way

03:22:08.800 to do that?

03:22:11.020 I don't think that we should

03:22:12.320 levy troops quickly.

03:22:13.800 I think if we are going

03:22:14.920 to defend our interests

03:22:17.060 here or abroad,

03:22:18.520 we should do it

03:22:19.180 with the technology.

03:22:19.480 But what would be

03:22:20.000 the best way to do it?

03:22:21.000 Like the technology

03:22:21.800 that we used

03:22:22.480 when we invaded Venezuela

03:22:23.780 that made them bleed

03:22:25.020 out of their noses

03:22:25.880 and ears and made them 0.96

03:22:26.800 stand down.

03:22:27.160 That's a third world 0.99

03:22:27.820 shithole. 0.94

03:22:28.360 But the question... 0.99

03:22:29.120 No, I'm talking

03:22:30.240 about the technology

03:22:31.020 that they used.

03:22:31.100 You didn't actually

03:22:31.560 answer my question.

03:22:32.440 Yes, I did.

03:22:33.080 No, you didn't.

03:22:33.560 What would be the best way

03:22:34.840 to levy troops quickly?

03:22:38.240 Why would I...

03:22:39.060 Robot troops.

03:22:39.200 I don't want them to.

03:22:40.160 I didn't ask you

03:22:41.100 what you wanted.

03:22:41.900 I asked you what's

03:22:42.660 the best way

03:22:43.280 to levy troops quickly.

03:22:44.520 By paying them.

03:22:45.740 By paying them.

03:22:46.600 There's always been

03:22:47.220 a financial incentive

03:22:48.340 to joining the military.

03:22:49.960 So you can...

03:22:51.320 Or do you think

03:22:51.860 people sign up to...

03:22:51.920 So you think that

03:22:52.600 if you offer

03:22:53.240 like a $30,000...

03:22:54.880 Now you're interrupting me.

03:22:55.460 Yeah, go ahead.

03:22:55.960 Do you think that men

03:22:56.900 sign up to be in the military

03:22:58.740 to do it for free?

03:23:00.220 Or there is...

03:23:00.860 Of course they get paid.

03:23:01.620 Draftees get paid.

03:23:03.260 Yeah, you still get paid.

03:23:04.120 Draftees get paid.

03:23:05.080 You still get paid

03:23:06.000 and you also get

03:23:07.060 your education paid for

03:23:09.000 by going into the military.

03:23:10.380 So do draftees.

03:23:10.740 You get certain benefits.

03:23:12.580 Just like draftees. 0.99

03:23:13.280 So if you were to...

03:23:14.260 You're to answer your question.

03:23:15.840 If you wanted to get people together

03:23:17.860 really quickly

03:23:18.740 without needing a draft

03:23:20.440 then you pay them.

03:23:21.940 So does that answer your question?

03:23:22.880 So here's the thing that's funny.

03:23:23.900 It's like we've been

03:23:24.640 we've been through this, right?

03:23:26.060 Sure.

03:23:26.640 You can offer

03:23:27.680 large cash incentives

03:23:28.840 in order to levy troops

03:23:30.060 somewhat quickly.

03:23:31.140 I agree with this.

03:23:31.880 Yes.

03:23:32.380 But if you're in a major war

03:23:33.520 where you're seeing

03:23:34.120 actual significant casualties

03:23:35.740 which we haven't seen

03:23:36.900 since basically Vietnam

03:23:38.760 or before that World War II

03:23:41.060 guess what?

03:23:42.180 Cash incentives

03:23:43.100 $20,000, $30,000

03:23:44.360 come back in a body bag

03:23:45.520 doesn't work.

03:23:46.180 So what do they then do?

03:23:48.700 They do what?

03:23:50.740 Levy what?

03:23:52.220 I'm not sure

03:23:52.780 because they...

03:23:53.600 You're not sure

03:23:54.140 that they levy a draft

03:23:55.120 when that happens?

03:23:56.080 I don't see that

03:23:56.700 ever happening again

03:23:57.860 in the future

03:23:58.460 for any kind of reason.

03:23:59.560 Do you?

03:24:00.140 Do you?

03:24:00.480 Yes.

03:24:00.880 Robots now though.

03:24:01.960 Yes, of course.

03:24:03.160 You do think so.

03:24:04.080 We have drones and robots now.

03:24:05.940 We don't even need humans.

03:24:06.780 The last draft

03:24:07.080 wasn't that long ago.

03:24:08.100 Of course.

03:24:08.760 Well this is one area

03:24:09.680 we're going to agree to disagree

03:24:11.220 because I think that we do have...

03:24:12.060 You think it's impossible

03:24:13.000 we'll ever have a draft again?

03:24:14.380 Yes.

03:24:14.720 Impossible.

03:24:15.920 Impossible.

03:24:16.540 Yes.

03:24:16.920 Okay.

03:24:17.660 Can't we just switch the humans out 0.66

03:24:20.560 with robots

03:24:21.100 since they're going to be

03:24:22.280 better at fighting anyway?

03:24:24.460 No.

03:24:24.980 What?

03:24:25.460 No.

03:24:25.980 We use robotics

03:24:26.860 for so many other things.

03:24:27.900 We use drone strikes

03:24:28.720 in a lot of modern day war.

03:24:30.420 We're just going to have

03:24:30.640 a bunch of robots

03:24:31.380 running down the field.

03:24:32.180 I mean, what's...

03:24:33.340 Yeah, I'm not.

03:24:34.280 I mean, it doesn't mean

03:24:34.920 it doesn't mean to be a robot.

03:24:35.800 Then we should just get rid

03:24:36.440 of draft laws, right?

03:24:37.540 Yes.

03:24:38.000 Yeah.

03:24:38.360 Correct.

03:24:38.760 We agree to disagree.

03:24:41.000 We get rid of the draft laws 0.98

03:24:44.880 and then after we get rid

03:24:46.160 of the draft laws

03:24:46.880 I just want to ask

03:24:48.240 should women still have privileges 1.00

03:24:50.000 when it comes to

03:24:51.220 Titanic's going down

03:24:52.580 if they get the boats

03:24:53.860 and the children

03:24:55.160 get the boats first?

03:24:56.180 I think that it should be

03:24:57.540 equal, honestly.

03:24:58.840 But regardless of me

03:24:59.960 thinking that it should be

03:25:00.960 equal, men are all...

03:25:02.020 Men, gentlemanly men,

03:25:04.020 traditional men

03:25:04.740 are always going to put

03:25:06.080 the women and children first.

03:25:07.200 That might not be you.

03:25:08.160 It could be you.

03:25:08.880 I'm not saying it's not.

03:25:10.120 But gentlemanly men

03:25:11.340 have been the ones

03:25:12.340 who do that

03:25:13.320 and decide that for themselves.

03:25:14.420 So then the idea here is

03:25:16.160 you don't need to

03:25:17.100 yield anything

03:25:18.080 to the privileges

03:25:19.200 for women in society

03:25:20.540 because it is the case

03:25:21.960 that men just really 1.00

03:25:22.940 want to do that shit for you. 1.00

03:25:24.840 Yes. 1.00

03:25:25.320 So I keep...

03:25:25.840 Okay.

03:25:26.160 Yes.

03:25:26.540 So I keep going back

03:25:27.400 to the question.

03:25:28.220 What is it that you want

03:25:29.260 from women returning?

03:25:29.540 I want a rescindance.

03:25:30.600 I want a rescindance

03:25:31.620 of authority

03:25:32.620 if you want to have privilege.

03:25:34.820 Yes.

03:25:35.120 Okay.

03:25:35.320 So how would you...

03:25:36.840 How would you exercise

03:25:38.120 that authority?

03:25:39.540 What do you mean?

03:25:40.040 Well, we would just do it...

03:25:41.020 On a woman. 0.94

03:25:41.040 We would do it civically.

03:25:42.320 Okay.

03:25:42.740 How?

03:25:43.780 Through like the rescindance

03:25:44.860 of the 19th Amendment

03:25:45.700 and various things like this.

03:25:46.800 So take away their...

03:25:48.060 Well, I'm not taking

03:25:48.780 anything away.

03:25:50.260 By...

03:25:50.500 Wait a second.

03:25:51.100 Women... 1.00

03:25:52.180 This would be

03:25:53.040 a social agreement.

03:25:54.520 So, yeah.

03:25:55.200 So if the idea is socially

03:25:56.660 and a social agreement,

03:25:58.300 women want to retain privilege. 1.00

03:26:00.380 They want to retain privilege

03:26:01.760 of like lifeboats.

03:26:02.820 No, I just want equality.

03:26:03.440 You don't.

03:26:04.360 I get it.

03:26:05.040 But if women do, 1.00

03:26:06.820 if they want the idea of

03:26:08.840 we have a privileged spot

03:26:10.340 in society,

03:26:11.140 we get gentlemanly...

03:26:12.880 It's always been like that

03:26:13.860 throughout history.

03:26:14.460 We get treated gentlemanly.

03:26:15.000 We get treated this way.

03:26:15.860 We get treated that way.

03:26:17.060 Then it is the case

03:26:18.340 that it was always the case

03:26:20.120 that women couldn't vote either. 0.99

03:26:22.080 Only post-vote

03:26:23.260 did you start seeing

03:26:23.980 the ideas of chivalry

03:26:24.940 start to go out the window

03:26:25.960 as egalitarianism

03:26:27.600 and equality came in.

03:26:28.960 So if it's the case

03:26:29.960 that you just don't care

03:26:30.760 about that,

03:26:31.560 then we don't really have

03:26:32.680 much of an argument

03:26:33.420 because ultimately

03:26:34.400 all you're saying is

03:26:35.440 men really shouldn't

03:26:36.260 do these things.

03:26:36.900 I have no good

03:26:37.500 compelling reason

03:26:38.160 why men should do this. 0.59

03:26:39.360 No, I like for men

03:26:40.120 to have the option

03:26:40.960 to do it or not

03:26:42.040 because then it shows me

03:26:43.000 their character.

03:26:44.080 Why would they have

03:26:44.880 lower character

03:26:45.480 by not doing it?

03:26:47.080 Well, I,

03:26:48.020 it is a personal opinion

03:26:50.080 think that they have

03:26:51.160 lower character

03:26:52.100 by not doing it

03:26:52.900 and so I'm going to pick

03:26:54.100 I am going to pick

03:26:56.160 the guy that does

03:26:57.080 Yeah, I get that

03:26:58.380 but what would actually

03:27:00.080 in fact make that

03:27:01.280 a man of lower character?

03:27:02.740 I've said it's my opinion.

03:27:03.920 Did I not?

03:27:04.320 Do you think that woman 0.56

03:27:04.980 deserved to vote?

03:27:06.460 Well, if you're going

03:27:08.080 it depends on how you

03:27:09.480 want to structure society.

03:27:10.820 If you want to structure society

03:27:12.400 with female privilege intact, 1.00

03:27:15.060 then no.

03:27:16.160 But if you want to structure society

03:27:17.660 with complete equity

03:27:18.900 and egalitarianism

03:27:19.960 which is what feminists want, 1.00

03:27:21.580 then sure.

03:27:23.060 Depends on how you want

03:27:24.040 to structure society.

03:27:25.300 How do you want

03:27:25.940 to restructure society?

03:27:26.920 I think it would probably

03:27:27.800 be a whole hell of a lot better

03:27:29.640 if you're going to maintain

03:27:31.860 female privilege 0.99

03:27:32.880 to yield authority.

03:27:34.440 But if women don't want to 1.00

03:27:36.180 give up female, 1.00

03:27:37.560 or get back female privilege 1.00

03:27:39.240 and then yield authority,

03:27:41.040 then what will end up happening

03:27:41.940 inevitably is men 0.76

03:27:42.580 are going to just take it.

03:27:43.740 I would absolutely hate

03:27:45.120 to be in a system

03:27:46.500 where you have authority

03:27:47.700 over women. 1.00

03:27:48.880 And that is precisely why.

03:27:50.420 What would happen

03:27:51.240 in the system

03:27:52.000 where I had authority

03:27:53.040 over women?

03:27:53.940 I think that you would

03:27:54.760 abuse that power.

03:27:55.400 How?

03:27:56.100 I think that...

03:27:56.780 Give me a specific.

03:27:57.800 Sure.

03:27:58.380 Historically,

03:27:58.920 when people are

03:27:59.820 in different levels

03:28:00.620 of authority

03:28:01.140 and don't have equality

03:28:02.620 and aren't treated

03:28:03.840 as equal human beings,

03:28:05.300 and I'm not saying

03:28:06.000 men and women

03:28:06.580 are the same,

03:28:07.720 let me finish,

03:28:08.820 they should be treated

03:28:09.760 as equal human beings.

03:28:11.360 Like, let's say,

03:28:12.140 slavery, right?

03:28:13.240 Yeah.

03:28:13.420 People were in a position

03:28:15.240 of power,

03:28:15.760 so what did they do?

03:28:16.600 They abused that power.

03:28:18.180 When women could not be 1.00

03:28:20.840 financially independent

03:28:22.140 in this country,

03:28:23.860 well, and this is very sad,

03:28:27.020 but men had the opportunity

03:28:28.260 back in the day

03:28:29.080 to be good husbands,

03:28:30.600 to provide for their families,

03:28:32.260 to be loyal husbands, right?

03:28:34.760 But since women 1.00

03:28:35.700 didn't have the financial capability

03:28:38.280 of escaping a marriage, right,

03:28:41.120 then they had to put up

03:28:42.360 with cheating,

03:28:43.040 with domestic abuse,

03:28:44.060 domestic violence,

03:28:45.040 and what is evidence

03:28:46.840 of the fact

03:28:47.820 that they weren't happy

03:28:48.660 is that once they finally

03:28:51.000 had the opportunity

03:28:51.800 to be financially independent,

03:28:53.380 they did,

03:28:54.020 and they didn't continue

03:28:54.880 to get married.

03:28:55.300 I understand.

03:28:56.160 So then would you...

03:28:56.940 You get it?

03:28:57.340 Then would you say then,

03:28:58.940 and I'll just wrap it up,

03:29:00.160 we'll wrap it up

03:29:00.680 very quickly, Brian, okay?

03:29:02.780 We'll wrap it up quickly.

03:29:03.440 I understand.

03:29:04.080 So the idea here is

03:29:05.600 pre-women's suffrage, 0.94

03:29:07.800 which collectively then,

03:29:10.260 if men are collectively

03:29:11.280 not wanting to give women 1.00

03:29:12.340 the right to vote,

03:29:13.100 which they didn't,

03:29:14.040 they were in fact

03:29:15.000 abusing women.

03:29:16.420 They were what? 0.97

03:29:17.100 In fact, abusing women

03:29:18.320 by not giving them

03:29:19.180 the right to vote.

03:29:20.000 I think that they

03:29:21.040 definitely abused their power

03:29:23.240 by not being able to...

03:29:25.560 by women not being able

03:29:26.860 to escape their parents, right,

03:29:29.720 to be able to maintain them,

03:29:30.760 or a husband.

03:29:31.140 Sure.

03:29:31.580 I understand.

03:29:32.600 That's consistent.

03:29:33.420 Correct.

03:29:33.600 So then the idea here,

03:29:35.380 would you refer

03:29:35.980 to that collective of men

03:29:37.420 who was oppressing

03:29:39.820 by not giving that right

03:29:40.860 to vote a patriarchy?

03:29:43.460 Necessarily,

03:29:43.980 was that a patriarchy?

03:29:45.120 Not all.

03:29:45.500 Well, if it's collective,

03:29:47.180 is that collective

03:29:47.960 a patriarchy?

03:29:49.080 That system is absolutely

03:29:50.960 a system...

03:29:52.000 A patriarchy.

03:29:52.580 ...where men can be

03:29:54.160 abusive to women.

03:29:55.120 And is that a patriarchy?

03:29:57.160 And I'm not saying

03:29:57.180 that grandma,

03:29:58.140 you know,

03:29:58.440 my grandma,

03:29:58.940 your grandma,

03:29:59.320 whatever,

03:30:00.000 wasn't happy...

03:30:00.100 Can you repeat my question?

03:30:01.200 ...wasn't happy

03:30:02.040 back in the day

03:30:02.800 under that system

03:30:03.860 because she could have

03:30:04.560 had a great marriage.

03:30:05.180 Is that a system

03:30:05.580 necessarily a patriarchy?

03:30:08.100 If women were not 1.00

03:30:09.060 allowed to vote

03:30:09.640 because the men

03:30:10.280 collectively...

03:30:11.100 By definition.

03:30:11.840 Yes.

03:30:12.220 Was it a patriarchal society

03:30:13.900 because women can't vote? 1.00

03:30:16.080 Yes.

03:30:16.560 And men are saying no.

03:30:17.900 Yes.

03:30:18.200 I think that is a society

03:30:19.940 that is patriarchal.

03:30:21.480 So you think it was good

03:30:22.760 for women to get together

03:30:24.160 and resist this patriarchy,

03:30:27.600 right?

03:30:28.040 Get their right to vote

03:30:29.140 and how it works?

03:30:29.320 Yes.

03:30:29.540 By resisting that patriarchy.

03:30:30.960 Yes.

03:30:31.180 I believe that women 1.00

03:30:32.020 did the right thing

03:30:33.100 and fighting for the right to vote.

03:30:34.320 Now, I'm just going

03:30:34.880 to tell you this.

03:30:35.960 The definition of feminism 0.56

03:30:37.300 is the movement

03:30:38.580 towards egalitarian

03:30:39.860 by deconstructing

03:30:41.700 and resisting

03:30:42.320 the patriarchy.

03:30:43.640 Okay.

03:30:44.020 So if that's your definition...

03:30:45.560 No, that's the definition.

03:30:46.740 If that's your definition...

03:30:47.460 If that's the definition...

03:30:48.400 ...then call me a feminist. 1.00

03:30:49.880 I don't care.

03:30:50.560 I'm going to.

03:30:51.280 I did.

03:30:51.840 You're a Femcon. 0.99

03:30:52.640 Yes, exactly.

03:30:53.440 You're a feminist. 1.00

03:30:54.160 Yes, you're a feminist. 1.00

03:30:55.180 Yes, 100%.

03:30:56.200 1,000%.

03:30:57.140 You say and Google

03:30:57.900 feminists nowadays... 1.00

03:30:59.040 Go ahead.

03:30:59.720 ...you know,

03:31:00.380 you have the first wave feminism, 1.00

03:31:01.940 second wave feminism,

03:31:03.280 third wave feminism. 1.00

03:31:03.600 What do they all have in common?

03:31:04.800 They're resisting...

03:31:05.640 If there's an oppressor

03:31:06.540 or oppressed class

03:31:07.280 and women are the oppressed class, 1.00

03:31:08.760 who's the oppressor class?

03:31:09.860 First wave feminism 0.85

03:31:11.000 was making sure

03:31:12.360 that women had 0.99

03:31:13.240 an equal...

03:31:13.640 You didn't answer his question.

03:31:14.380 If there's an oppressed class... 0.62

03:31:15.460 Wait, can you answer his question?

03:31:16.720 If there's an oppressed class

03:31:17.700 and an oppressor class

03:31:20.480 and women are the oppressed class, 1.00

03:31:21.940 who's the oppressor class?

03:31:23.360 It would be men 1.00

03:31:24.640 that don't allow women to vote. 1.00

03:31:25.780 It would be...

03:31:26.360 And if men collectively...

03:31:27.720 Do you think that's good?

03:31:27.960 And if men are collectively

03:31:28.800 not allowing that...

03:31:30.260 Do you think that's good?

03:31:30.840 I think patriarchies are great.

03:31:32.260 Great, and that's why

03:31:32.920 we're losing elections.

03:31:33.880 Thank you.

03:31:34.320 To who?

03:31:35.220 You still didn't answer my question.

03:31:35.720 We got Trump elected.

03:31:37.260 People with my view

03:31:38.220 got Trump elected.

03:31:39.240 Do you think a woman

03:31:39.620 should have the right to vote?

03:31:41.260 Andrew?

03:31:42.360 Oh, yeah.

03:31:43.080 I did no work.

03:31:44.180 It was all the TP...

03:31:44.820 It was all you.

03:31:45.640 You did all the work.

03:31:46.320 No, I'm saying

03:31:46.980 I had a part in that,

03:31:47.920 but thanks.

03:31:48.280 We all had a part in that.

03:31:49.500 Thank you.

03:31:49.980 But the point is,

03:31:50.820 it's like...

03:31:51.320 You did not.

03:31:51.940 We all had a part

03:31:53.420 in getting him elected,

03:31:54.340 thanks.

03:31:54.420 No, you drove women away 1.00

03:31:55.860 from getting him elected

03:31:56.700 by having these types of opinions.

03:31:57.300 Okay, we drove women, 1.00

03:31:58.160 which must be why

03:31:59.180 he was getting so many

03:31:59.960 female votes

03:32:00.600 from married men,

03:32:02.040 but what do I know?

03:32:03.360 Just the stats show it.

03:32:04.500 Sure, sure.

03:32:04.820 But in any case,

03:32:05.920 if that's the case,

03:32:06.880 you want to resist

03:32:07.580 the patriarchy.

03:32:09.020 I don't want to resist

03:32:09.780 the patriarchy.

03:32:10.200 You do.

03:32:11.000 That's by definition you do.

03:32:12.180 But if it's your version

03:32:13.320 of the patriarchy,

03:32:14.380 sure.

03:32:15.080 What do you mean my version?

03:32:16.540 I never want my daughters 0.99

03:32:17.480 to live in a society

03:32:19.300 where they have no voice.

03:32:20.960 I get it.

03:32:21.080 And I don't think

03:32:21.540 you would want your daughters 0.98

03:32:22.980 to live in that either.

03:32:24.140 Is voice equal to vote?

03:32:24.640 They always had...

03:32:25.860 Women always had a voice. 1.00

03:32:27.140 If women didn't have a voice, 1.00

03:32:28.220 can you...

03:32:28.360 You have no voice.

03:32:28.900 Hang on.

03:32:29.180 Can you explain something to me?

03:32:30.220 If you don't...

03:32:30.620 Yes.

03:32:30.900 If women didn't have a voice 1.00

03:32:32.280 before they got the right to vote,

03:32:34.260 how did they get prohibition passed?

03:32:36.620 Oh, by being nagging.

03:32:38.560 By being people like me.

03:32:39.960 Wait, they had a voice?

03:32:41.020 So they had...

03:32:41.640 Wait, they had a voice?

03:32:42.620 That you find extremely annoying

03:32:44.460 by erasing my voice.

03:32:45.680 So they had a voice.

03:32:47.020 They collectively got together...

03:32:49.260 Because they had a voice.

03:32:50.560 ...and organized within themselves.

03:32:52.160 Because they had a voice.

03:32:53.600 They didn't have a voice until they...

03:32:55.000 Then how did they get it passed?

03:32:56.280 Are you talking about

03:32:57.000 could they speak?

03:32:57.980 Are you, you know...

03:32:58.760 Yeah.

03:32:59.060 How did they get an amendment passed

03:33:00.940 before they could vote

03:33:01.820 if they had no voice?

03:33:03.000 They had a voice

03:33:03.480 that wasn't recognized.

03:33:04.660 Because they did it

03:33:05.400 through leverage, right?

03:33:06.980 Oh, so they had a voice.

03:33:08.500 No.

03:33:08.920 They actually were bad, rebellious wives. 1.00

03:33:12.260 So we're not going to cook for you.

03:33:13.380 We're not going to clean for you.

03:33:14.400 We're not going to do all this stuff.

03:33:15.420 We're going to stop society

03:33:16.720 from moving forward

03:33:17.860 unless you give us a right to vote.

03:33:20.100 So they had a voice

03:33:21.180 and men listened to them?

03:33:22.440 No, so they had leverage

03:33:23.360 and they forced the hand.

03:33:25.020 Okay, so then

03:33:25.760 they had political power.

03:33:27.320 Are you trying to redefine history?

03:33:27.840 So they had political power

03:33:29.080 without the 19th?

03:33:30.080 Are you...

03:33:30.180 That's so weird.

03:33:31.080 So that's...

03:33:31.720 How did women have all this 1.00

03:33:32.660 political power

03:33:33.260 without the 19th?

03:33:34.100 You think that's how you want

03:33:35.080 women to do things nowadays? 1.00

03:33:36.000 I think that women always... 1.00

03:33:37.240 You want your wife 0.99

03:33:37.860 to get you to do things

03:33:39.300 by being a nagging wife? 1.00

03:33:41.620 Oh, no.

03:33:41.920 You're making my point for me.

03:33:43.120 No, you're not.

03:33:43.240 My point is that women had... 1.00

03:33:45.000 Women collectively had 1.00

03:33:46.720 a collective voice

03:33:47.600 and they collectively had leverage

03:33:49.240 and they were looked to

03:33:50.280 for issues of moral certainty.

03:33:52.700 Moral certainty.

03:33:53.140 What they were not looked to

03:33:54.320 was for being political cogs

03:33:56.180 or having any space

03:33:57.380 in that wheelhouse.

03:33:58.500 They had their own.

03:33:59.600 But to say that women 0.96

03:34:00.420 weren't listened to...

03:34:01.360 Hang on.

03:34:02.360 To say women weren't listened to, 1.00

03:34:03.880 to say that women had no voice, 0.64

03:34:05.020 to say that women had no leverage, 1.00

03:34:06.640 women couldn't get their will passed 1.00

03:34:09.380 before they could vote

03:34:10.400 even though they got

03:34:11.240 an amendment passed. 1.00

03:34:12.340 One of the stupidest amendments, 1.00

03:34:13.620 by the way, 1.00

03:34:14.040 they had to get rid of it.

03:34:14.840 That's going to help us

03:34:15.500 win elections.

03:34:15.860 They had to get rid of it.

03:34:16.760 That is fantastic.

03:34:18.300 You are so great

03:34:19.240 for this movement.

03:34:19.980 I am.

03:34:20.720 I'm fantastic.

03:34:21.700 I love it.

03:34:21.960 We need more feminism. 1.00

03:34:22.960 I love it.

03:34:23.540 I wish we had more feminism 1.00

03:34:24.660 and resistance to the patriarchy.

03:34:26.280 That's really great

03:34:27.140 for conservatism.

03:34:29.020 Prenups and feminism. 1.00

03:34:30.660 Oh, no religion. 0.98

03:34:31.820 What a fantastic...

03:34:33.100 What a conservative movement.

03:34:34.760 Maybe not for you.

03:34:36.480 What a great conservative movement.

03:34:38.180 But for women, yeah. 0.99

03:34:39.580 Yes, isn't our favorite.

03:34:41.300 More feminism. 1.00

03:34:42.140 How is it better for women? 0.99

03:34:43.040 Women's happiness rates

03:34:44.200 have crashed.

03:34:45.760 Yeah, you really seem

03:34:47.560 to be crashing out there.

03:34:49.280 I think that I can convince

03:34:50.960 the girls here 0.99

03:34:52.360 to vote for

03:34:53.560 common sense

03:34:54.600 conservatism

03:34:55.640 and a republic.

03:34:56.140 Oh, yeah.

03:34:56.560 It's just liberal.

03:34:57.380 He's just giving them feminists. 1.00

03:34:58.560 Are we talking about rhinos?

03:34:59.760 Versus if you tried to make

03:35:01.320 an argument for them

03:35:02.480 voting for whoever

03:35:03.400 you're supporting,

03:35:04.320 I don't think that they would be...

03:35:05.680 You know what?

03:35:06.080 I actually agree with this point.

03:35:07.640 Yes or no?

03:35:08.480 Listen, I 1,000% agree

03:35:11.140 with your point

03:35:11.740 that if you sell feminists 1.00

03:35:13.140 on feminism,

03:35:14.020 they'll vote how you want.

03:35:15.040 I totally agree with you.

03:35:16.900 1,000% tell all the feminists 1.00

03:35:19.320 to be feminists. 1.00

03:35:20.120 They're definitely going

03:35:21.080 to agree with that.

03:35:21.820 No, I'm saying that women 1.00

03:35:23.300 should have equal value

03:35:25.140 to men and an equal voice.

03:35:26.520 And resist the patriarchy.

03:35:28.040 If that's what you call

03:35:29.000 resisting the patriarchy.

03:35:29.360 Gotta resist that patriarchy. 1.00

03:35:30.680 Just the fact that she did

03:35:35.560 vote for Trump, though,

03:35:36.480 means that she's not a feminist. 1.00

03:35:38.400 No.

03:35:40.220 Trump is not a feminist?

03:35:41.460 A lot of what are called

03:35:42.520 TERFs voted for Trump.

03:35:44.760 Those are trans-exclusionary 1.00

03:35:46.600 radical feminists.

03:35:48.060 They're the most avid feminists. 1.00

03:35:49.820 And they voted for Trump

03:35:50.760 for one specific issue

03:35:52.540 because they were

03:35:53.540 trans-exclusionary.

03:35:54.520 They were pissed off 0.90

03:35:55.900 that transgender men, 0.90

03:35:57.920 well, they were actually men, right?

03:35:59.400 But trans women 0.99

03:36:00.760 are going into their sports leagues, 0.99

03:36:02.660 kicking their teeth in, 0.97

03:36:03.580 bashing their faces in, 1.00

03:36:04.620 kicking the shit out of them, right? 1.00

03:36:06.420 So they actually had 0.99

03:36:07.520 a small movement

03:36:08.520 which was pushing back,

03:36:10.140 saying we will put Trump in office

03:36:11.760 because he's going to make

03:36:12.600 a mandate there's only

03:36:13.380 two genders. 0.91

03:36:14.260 And guess what he did?

03:36:15.100 Made a mandate there's

03:36:15.880 only two genders.

03:36:17.080 Trans-exclusionary radical feminist

03:36:18.900 went right to their agenda.

03:36:20.460 So like, no.

03:36:20.860 One thing does not make him

03:36:21.420 a feminist, though. 1.00

03:36:22.660 One thing does not make him

03:36:23.760 a feminist.

03:36:24.200 Hold on, really quick.

03:36:25.000 Didn't say he was a feminist.

03:36:26.040 Really quick.

03:36:26.900 I said that you can't say

03:36:28.160 by definition a person's

03:36:29.820 not a feminist

03:36:30.420 because they voted for Trump. 0.99

03:36:31.700 That's silly. 0.97

03:36:32.600 Really quick. 0.82

03:36:33.560 Just because it came up.

03:36:35.140 By the way,

03:36:35.660 based Justin,

03:36:37.280 I'm sorry I missed your TTS.

03:36:38.900 Here's what I'm going to do

03:36:39.660 for you because I missed it.

03:36:41.620 I'm going to let it come through.

03:36:43.060 If you want to send in one

03:36:44.440 for the minimum threshold

03:36:46.040 for me to be able

03:36:46.740 to see it for 10,

03:36:47.800 I'll treat that as a second.

03:36:49.820 I'll do it as a read

03:36:50.860 or as a second TTS

03:36:52.160 if you want

03:36:52.640 because of my,

03:36:53.900 I missed it.

03:36:54.520 That was my bad base,

03:36:55.380 Justin,

03:36:55.820 sorry.

03:36:56.360 But question,

03:36:56.960 since it just came up,

03:36:57.860 what is a woman? 1.00

03:36:59.140 Starting with you.

03:36:59.820 So great.

03:37:00.580 What is a woman? 1.00

03:37:01.340 What is a woman? 1.00

03:37:02.540 A woman is an individual human 0.72

03:37:06.640 that was born with

03:37:11.820 and has female parts 1.00

03:37:14.320 and organs

03:37:15.080 and a reproductive system 1.00

03:37:17.520 unless there was some sort of

03:37:20.320 health issue in the matter.

03:37:22.440 Yeah, that's,

03:37:26.320 or I guess that's a real woman. 0.54

03:37:27.920 A real woman.

03:37:29.580 A biological woman.

03:37:30.860 A biological woman to me.

03:37:32.120 Are trans women women? 1.00

03:37:33.900 It slipped.

03:37:34.860 Freudian slip.

03:37:37.020 I'd say that's a very

03:37:39.160 like nuanced question

03:37:40.160 but yes,

03:37:41.820 yes, I do believe

03:37:42.980 that trans women are women.

03:37:44.820 I just don't believe

03:37:45.640 that they are

03:37:46.440 the same as biological women. 1.00

03:37:49.900 So how are they women? 1.00

03:37:50.220 Hold on.

03:37:50.960 Your answer.

03:37:51.380 I genuinely agree with that.

03:37:55.400 I don't think that.

03:37:57.420 Here, as we're going around

03:37:58.380 the table on these questions,

03:37:59.540 don't be like,

03:38:00.100 I agree with this person.

03:38:01.500 Just restate your own position.

03:38:03.300 Yeah, I think a woman 1.00

03:38:06.400 is someone who was born

03:38:07.840 with the anatomy

03:38:08.540 but I don't think that it's right

03:38:10.340 to invalidate transgender women.

03:38:12.480 And, you know,

03:38:15.920 I try to keep an open mind

03:38:17.680 about it

03:38:18.120 but realistically,

03:38:19.720 like logically speaking.

03:38:22.060 But what is a woman? 1.00

03:38:23.660 Like if you had to define it.

03:38:27.760 I couldn't put a definition

03:38:29.460 to what a woman is. 0.57

03:38:30.520 Like I'm not necessarily

03:38:32.520 like someone with, 0.98

03:38:35.700 like someone with a vagina, 1.00

03:38:38.340 I guess. 1.00

03:38:39.660 But at the same time,

03:38:41.380 I'm sorry.

03:38:42.660 Go on.

03:38:43.480 Oh.

03:38:44.660 Well.

03:38:45.500 You're going to ask me.

03:38:46.300 Like the post-operative men, 1.00

03:38:48.080 well,

03:38:48.760 trans women

03:38:49.380 who have,

03:38:51.040 they're post-op trans women. 1.00

03:38:53.980 Do they have a vagina? 1.00

03:38:56.000 Is that a vagina? 1.00

03:38:57.260 It's a cosmetic vagina. 1.00

03:39:01.440 It's a cosmetic vagina. 1.00

03:39:02.900 Yes. 0.99

03:39:03.480 So could I put up 0.99

03:39:04.080 a cosmetic vagina 1.00

03:39:04.960 in my armpit? 1.00

03:39:06.940 And is that the vagina? 1.00

03:39:08.600 I could not. 0.98

03:39:09.280 I don't think you can.

03:39:10.400 I could not.

03:39:11.440 Why couldn't you?

03:39:12.720 I'm sorry.

03:39:13.260 You need to turn 1.00

03:39:13.780 the penis inside out 1.00

03:39:14.960 to make it the vagina. 1.00

03:39:15.960 I think you could do it. 0.99

03:39:17.020 We move.

03:39:17.760 We move.

03:39:18.260 If you like, I guess.

03:39:18.940 I think you could do it.

03:39:19.800 We move.

03:39:20.220 You can try.

03:39:20.860 They can these days, for sure.

03:39:22.180 Yeah, we could move.

03:39:23.080 Does that not sound insane to you?

03:39:24.600 Here, your answer to the question,

03:39:26.160 what is a woman? 1.00

03:39:26.760 Insane in reality. 0.95

03:39:27.580 I think the surgery is greedy.

03:39:29.900 A woman is somebody 1.00

03:39:31.040 that was born 0.68

03:39:32.380 with reproductive female parts. 1.00

03:39:34.640 There are only two genders. 0.99

03:39:36.460 A woman is somebody 1.00

03:39:37.520 that menstruates,

03:39:39.020 meaning they have

03:39:39.620 the four parts

03:39:42.480 of the menstrual cycle,

03:39:43.480 which I'm curious

03:39:44.040 if you guys know

03:39:44.740 since this is a dating show

03:39:45.840 and it is the essence

03:39:46.780 of being a woman.

03:39:48.720 But yeah, that is a woman. 1.00

03:39:50.580 Do you know?

03:39:51.120 Actually, yeah, I'm curious.

03:39:52.120 I mean, there's like

03:39:52.840 luteal fizz and something.

03:39:54.660 What are the other? 0.98

03:39:55.100 I don't fucking know, 0.95

03:39:56.320 but that's basics 0.98

03:39:57.220 to being a woman, right?

03:39:58.440 And this is,

03:39:59.080 since we're talking about

03:40:00.520 what is...

03:40:00.540 Well, but it's not.

03:40:01.360 Do you have a line?

03:40:01.920 No, it's not.

03:40:02.980 You could say...

03:40:03.540 Hold on, wait, wait.

03:40:04.480 Just, I gotta keep things 0.99

03:40:05.680 on fucking track. 0.98

03:40:06.940 Answer the question. 1.00

03:40:08.680 I would just say

03:40:09.520 being a woman

03:40:10.080 is the polar opposite

03:40:11.300 of being a man,

03:40:12.440 like anatomy and...

03:40:14.800 Yeah.

03:40:15.280 What is that?

03:40:16.020 I think being a woman

03:40:18.440 is being a person

03:40:20.000 that was born

03:40:20.660 with female

03:40:21.640 reproductive systems. 0.97

03:40:24.540 A woman is, 0.98

03:40:25.960 if you were born

03:40:26.720 a woman at birth,

03:40:27.720 whatever God chose

03:40:28.800 for you to be,

03:40:29.580 you're either man or woman. 0.51

03:40:31.240 An adult human female.

03:40:33.720 I would say

03:40:34.320 a woman is someone 1.00

03:40:35.200 that represents

03:40:36.520 or puts out

03:40:38.560 feminine traits

03:40:39.360 and dresses femininely, 0.87

03:40:42.100 so I do believe

03:40:43.260 that trans people

03:40:44.060 can become women. 1.00

03:40:45.120 So if I dressed,

03:40:45.860 like I dressed

03:40:46.520 in a feminine way,

03:40:47.340 I could be a woman? 0.51

03:40:48.500 Yeah, if you wanted to be.

03:40:49.320 Okay, you?

03:40:51.080 A post-pubescent human being

03:40:53.820 with XX chromosomes.

03:40:56.080 Okay, you?

03:40:57.620 And if you want to weigh in,

03:40:58.660 I guess you can.

03:40:59.880 Oh, well, just give the... 0.99

03:41:00.880 Okay, God damn. 0.99

03:41:02.440 Okay. 1.00

03:41:02.840 Give your food.

03:41:04.260 It's really not that hard, guys. 0.99

03:41:05.460 Just somebody fucking talk. 0.99

03:41:06.920 A woman is a person 1.00

03:41:09.340 that's been born 1.00

03:41:10.320 with a vagina 1.00

03:41:11.040 and it's invalidating 0.99

03:41:12.940 to women

03:41:13.480 for men to try

03:41:14.480 to take on that role.

03:41:15.740 I disagree.

03:41:16.100 So don't invalidate women.

03:41:17.900 I disagree.

03:41:19.400 Yeah, a woman is... 1.00

03:41:21.160 A woman who's, you know, 1.00

03:41:22.400 born a woman,

03:41:22.900 it's kind of self-evident.

03:41:25.500 Okay.

03:41:26.440 Based, Justin,

03:41:27.060 your TTS coming through.

03:41:28.320 Based, Justin donated $200.

03:41:31.820 Feminist is as feminist does. 1.00

03:41:34.280 The proof is in the pudding.

03:41:36.040 Being single without kids at 32

03:41:38.420 after apparently cursing

03:41:40.220 Oh, my God.

03:41:40.860 I shouldn't wait. 0.99

03:41:41.620 Of course I fucking play it 0.99

03:41:43.120 when she's gone. 0.99

03:41:45.240 I'll play it again, bro. 0.98

03:41:46.540 I didn't fucking read it. 0.98

03:41:47.600 All right. 0.99

03:41:48.440 I have to wait

03:41:49.240 for the other TTSs.

03:41:50.200 She's gone.

03:41:51.400 Can I make one statement?

03:41:52.500 Hold on.

03:41:52.860 Let me read these.

03:41:55.760 Hold on.

03:41:58.200 These are all related to her.

03:41:59.640 Is this related?

03:42:04.220 Greetings from Bavaria.

03:42:05.400 Poor, misguided victims 0.98

03:42:06.240 of degenerate feminist propaganda 0.98

03:42:07.920 like Chair 3

03:42:09.140 are given multiple podcaster channels

03:42:10.800 on German state media

03:42:11.840 which we are forced to pay for.

03:42:13.580 Unfortunately,

03:42:15.180 be glad it's not the case

03:42:16.660 in the USA.

03:42:17.280 Question for Andrew.

03:42:19.320 Emigrate from EU. 0.91

03:42:20.600 Yes or no?

03:42:21.180 Yes.

03:42:22.940 EU is being taken over

03:42:24.240 by them.

03:42:27.680 It's being taken over

03:42:29.080 by,

03:42:30.280 well,

03:42:31.420 it's being taken over 0.95

03:42:31.980 by Muslims. 0.91

03:42:32.600 Let's be real.

03:42:34.040 It is.

03:42:35.860 Not Europe anymore.

03:42:36.920 But you know what?

03:42:37.860 We need based people

03:42:39.220 like Ari

03:42:39.980 to remain

03:42:41.300 in their,

03:42:42.800 the fatherlands

03:42:44.300 and the motherlands

03:42:45.360 to

03:42:46.660 repel the threat.

03:42:49.320 we can't cede Europe.

03:42:53.300 We can't cede Europe, Andrew.

03:42:55.640 But here's the thing.

03:42:56.380 We need them to fight

03:42:57.120 for their country, Andrew.

03:42:58.680 You have to stop.

03:43:00.000 Remember,

03:43:01.960 she said that

03:43:02.820 no men should be drafted 1.00

03:43:04.000 and that there's no obligation

03:43:05.680 for men to do anything like that.

03:43:07.360 They just want to.

03:43:08.540 So if that guy

03:43:09.240 doesn't want to stay there

03:43:10.360 and fight off the hordes

03:43:11.280 for his women,

03:43:11.940 he should come here and party.

03:43:13.820 That is a fair point.

03:43:15.020 You do raise a fair point.

03:43:16.440 You know,

03:43:16.920 what are the men fighting for?

03:43:18.320 Yeah.

03:43:18.600 What are the men,

03:43:19.060 the European men?

03:43:20.440 You're fighting for the,

03:43:21.280 what's the chemical called?

03:43:23.240 Fasopressin.

03:43:23.740 Oh,

03:43:24.080 you're fighting for,

03:43:24.840 you're fighting for the

03:43:25.700 faceprofine.

03:43:27.560 The faceprofine.

03:43:27.920 The faceprofine

03:43:29.180 so that you will feel better

03:43:31.200 about yourself.

03:43:33.220 I mean,

03:43:34.220 you do raise a good point though.

03:43:36.660 It's like,

03:43:38.280 men fought

03:43:39.660 to protect

03:43:41.240 what they had.

03:43:43.600 But what is there now

03:43:45.100 to protect?

03:43:45.940 A bunch of

03:43:46.600 purple haired,

03:43:47.920 angry,

03:43:49.140 septum-having, 0.99

03:43:50.140 feminist, 0.99

03:43:51.140 misandrist women 1.00

03:43:52.180 who have complete 0.99

03:43:53.260 contempt for men.

03:43:55.120 No,

03:43:55.260 even the,

03:43:55.720 look, 0.98

03:43:56.780 the Femcons are worse. 1.00

03:43:57.920 The Femcons. 0.99

03:43:58.240 The Femcons are 10 times worse. 1.00

03:44:00.180 The idea is,

03:44:01.020 it's like,

03:44:02.260 you just,

03:44:03.220 you just,

03:44:04.300 we're not talking about it.

03:44:04.980 You just want to do it

03:44:06.340 because it makes you feel good.

03:44:09.360 But,

03:44:09.580 correct me if I'm wrong,

03:44:11.080 but in the EU,

03:44:12.140 didn't they recently

03:44:12.980 make the draft

03:44:13.780 for men and women?

03:44:15.660 I don't think so.

03:44:16.660 Yeah,

03:44:16.860 but you know,

03:44:17.680 it's really funny about that.

03:44:19.520 Or maybe they were talking about it.

03:44:21.140 Let me have Anya come in. 1.00

03:44:22.360 Go ahead.

03:44:23.300 So basically,

03:44:24.460 who was it that asked like,

03:44:26.440 oh,

03:44:26.640 if she was a feminist, 1.00

03:44:28.180 why would she vote for Trump?

03:44:29.720 Somebody asked that.

03:44:30.320 I said that.

03:44:31.300 Okay,

03:44:31.520 so there's basically this ideology

03:44:32.860 in men

03:44:34.300 called the sneaky Fokker syndrome,

03:44:36.240 or sneaky Fokker,

03:44:37.100 but they call it sneaky Fokker,

03:44:38.040 whatever,

03:44:38.580 that basically men

03:44:39.540 will pretend to be feminists 0.89

03:44:41.120 so that women will sleep with them. 1.00

03:44:43.300 Yeah,

03:44:43.480 it's a mating strategy. 1.00

03:44:44.460 Because most women want, 1.00

03:44:45.780 or not most women,

03:44:46.600 but,

03:44:47.220 so basically,

03:44:47.820 I think women, 1.00

03:44:48.500 I think women have started to do it 1.00

03:44:49.980 on the opposite end

03:44:51.260 where they're doing

03:44:52.180 the sneaky Fokker syndrome

03:44:53.200 where they're pretending

03:44:55.080 to be feminist, 0.98

03:44:56.260 but I mean,

03:44:57.320 pretending to be con,

03:44:58.660 but still holding

03:44:59.920 their feminist values 0.84

03:45:01.140 as we see Chair 3 doing,

03:45:03.360 and just calling them conservatives,

03:45:06.260 calling themselves conservatives

03:45:07.340 while not actually being conservative

03:45:09.380 and still being feminist, 1.00

03:45:11.300 but voting in the same way

03:45:12.440 so that their husband

03:45:13.180 or their boyfriend

03:45:14.240 or other men are like,

03:45:15.220 oh,

03:45:15.460 you're a trad,

03:45:16.020 so you must,

03:45:17.020 you must be a good woman.

03:45:19.360 Look,

03:45:21.000 Europe is not lost yet.

03:45:24.000 Europe is not lost.

03:45:25.080 Yeah,

03:45:25.240 but what are they saving it for?

03:45:27.280 Can I say something

03:45:28.300 about the feminism thing? 0.92

03:45:29.920 I think,

03:45:30.560 I think our friend

03:45:31.760 from the TPUSA,

03:45:33.500 I think she's like

03:45:34.580 feminist propaganda

03:45:36.200 to be quite honest with you,

03:45:37.960 as if every woman

03:45:39.340 in the world

03:45:40.380 is in her position

03:45:41.320 just because they've chosen

03:45:42.400 to go out and get a job.

03:45:43.900 It's just not attainable,

03:45:45.640 so for liberalism

03:45:47.360 to promise me

03:45:48.920 a fancy job

03:45:49.860 in an office,

03:45:51.200 you know,

03:45:52.120 it's,

03:45:52.840 so far it hasn't happened.

03:45:54.400 I don't know a lot of people

03:45:55.420 that it has happened for.

03:45:56.620 It's very rare

03:45:58.040 and you have to be

03:45:59.100 from a very wealthy family

03:46:00.680 or be,

03:46:01.840 or take out loans

03:46:02.880 and debt

03:46:03.500 into,

03:46:04.160 to get,

03:46:04.600 go to a really good school

03:46:05.780 that's really hard

03:46:06.660 to get into

03:46:07.180 and hard to pay for

03:46:08.040 to get a really nice job somewhere.

03:46:10.180 And so it's just,

03:46:11.400 it's just propaganda.

03:46:12.420 And it's,

03:46:13.100 I understand why

03:46:14.380 you call her a feminist, 1.00

03:46:17.560 you know,

03:46:18.180 because she's the ideal

03:46:19.840 form of what people

03:46:21.980 have been trying to sell us

03:46:23.220 on what feminism is.

03:46:24.520 But most of feminism 1.00

03:46:25.920 is at this table right now

03:46:27.340 and it's selling our bodies

03:46:28.400 over the internet.

03:46:30.540 Disagree.

03:46:31.180 Okay,

03:46:31.480 hold on.

03:46:32.080 I'm letting this come through.

03:46:33.560 This is for you.

03:46:34.140 Justin donated $200.

03:46:37.260 Feminist is as feminist does. 1.00

03:46:39.100 The proof is in the pudding.

03:46:41.700 Being single without kids at 32

03:46:43.780 after apparently pursing

03:46:45.600 at least seven Tradcon men

03:46:47.380 while more attractive than most.

03:46:49.760 Self-reflect much?

03:46:51.160 Quick response to this.

03:46:52.260 Quick response is,

03:46:53.620 do you really think

03:46:54.520 I don't have a choice

03:46:55.560 to be married right now

03:46:56.660 with kids?

03:46:58.600 Me of all people.

03:47:00.460 What?

03:47:00.860 What do you mean?

03:47:01.560 I mean,

03:47:02.280 I have nothing but good,

03:47:05.020 high value,

03:47:06.160 conservative,

03:47:06.740 into the mic,

03:47:07.740 conservative men

03:47:08.820 to,

03:47:09.540 you know,

03:47:10.740 choose from,

03:47:11.420 but I also have a boyfriend

03:47:13.220 and he is that exactly.

03:47:16.020 And it's just taking our pace

03:47:18.060 in making,

03:47:19.700 you know,

03:47:20.300 and doing those official things.

03:47:21.440 Are your eggs frozen?

03:47:22.700 No. 0.96

03:47:23.340 What the heck? 0.90

03:47:24.220 My eggs are fine. 0.91

03:47:25.180 Thank you for asking.

03:47:26.820 That's so weird.

03:47:27.620 Just,

03:47:27.920 I don't think it's weird.

03:47:29.020 Okay.

03:47:29.780 I think that's pretty,

03:47:31.120 three,

03:47:31.560 they're fine.

03:47:32.160 In fact,

03:47:32.600 you know what,

03:47:33.560 since you brought up

03:47:34.360 the subject,

03:47:35.180 actually.

03:47:36.140 Nope.

03:47:36.800 Yes,

03:47:37.140 you did.

03:47:38.140 No,

03:47:38.600 you're not going to 0.99

03:47:39.160 fucking hijack the show. 0.99

03:47:42.040 Blonde Femcon, 1.00

03:47:43.240 shut the bunnies up. 0.98

03:47:44.800 Quit giving main character 0.97

03:47:46.320 and act like you control

03:47:47.800 the convo.

03:47:48.720 You've not answered

03:47:49.860 one question directly yet.

03:47:51.820 Get the ball gag

03:47:53.000 one of the others

03:47:53.740 have to help.

03:47:54.620 I love the gag at home.

03:47:57.560 Sorry.

03:47:59.000 This is below the threshold,

03:48:01.280 but I'll just read it.

03:48:03.380 Guys,

03:48:03.800 we're just going to do

03:48:04.300 200 and up,

03:48:04.960 okay?

03:48:05.700 I'm starting to think

03:48:06.560 the feminist liberals

03:48:07.340 hired at TPUSA. 0.93

03:48:09.140 Are fake conservatives

03:48:10.420 had it out

03:48:11.060 as fake conservatives

03:48:12.380 had it out for Charlie?

03:48:13.760 Okay.

03:48:14.240 Well,

03:48:14.480 you don't work there anymore,

03:48:15.220 right?

03:48:15.420 You're an ex?

03:48:16.160 No.

03:48:16.640 TPUSA?

03:48:17.240 No,

03:48:17.500 but I'm very proud

03:48:18.340 of my time at TPUSA

03:48:19.600 and a turning point action.

03:48:20.920 When did you leave?

03:48:21.520 I think they're proud

03:48:21.980 of the work

03:48:23.060 that I did there as well.

03:48:24.900 But since you're

03:48:25.380 mentioning eggs,

03:48:26.280 it's scientifically proven

03:48:27.340 that men's sperm 0.96

03:48:28.620 and defective sperm 0.98

03:48:30.480 is the reason

03:48:31.220 why we have

03:48:31.960 the most miscarriages

03:48:33.280 and also genetic

03:48:34.720 abnormalities in men.

03:48:36.480 So women are born 1.00

03:48:37.560 with all the eggs 0.84

03:48:38.360 that they're ever

03:48:38.960 going to have

03:48:39.500 in their life,

03:48:40.260 regardless of their

03:48:41.120 lifestyle choices.

03:48:42.200 However,

03:48:42.660 men,

03:48:43.280 the quality...

03:48:43.440 Fertility declines

03:48:44.280 over age.

03:48:45.100 It's the same for women. 1.00

03:48:45.820 Yes, after the age of 35,

03:48:47.340 the amount of eggs

03:48:48.480 absolutely does go down,

03:48:50.480 but the quality doesn't.

03:48:51.760 However...

03:48:51.940 That's not true.

03:48:52.560 Yes, it is.

03:48:53.100 Wait, wait, stop.

03:48:54.020 However, for men...

03:48:54.780 Stop, stop.

03:48:55.520 You're not going to...

03:48:55.900 The quality...

03:48:56.740 You're not just going to

03:48:57.240 filibuster the entire 0.99

03:48:58.420 fucking episode. 1.00

03:48:59.180 So the reality is... 1.00

03:49:01.780 Go for it.

03:49:02.460 ...is we're not strictly

03:49:04.160 just talking about...

03:49:05.200 If your claim is,

03:49:06.300 it's strictly the egg quality.

03:49:08.780 No.

03:49:08.880 There's other components

03:49:09.760 to pregnancy.

03:49:10.420 See, like, the reality is

03:49:12.000 as women get older, 1.00

03:49:13.740 the chance of...

03:49:14.340 That's a reality.

03:49:15.240 The chance of miscarriage increase,

03:49:18.160 there's other potential complications.

03:49:19.900 But the worst,

03:49:20.520 the worst factor in miscarriages

03:49:23.120 is a low quality in men's sperm.

03:49:25.060 I think this is a bit...

03:49:25.900 And we were talking about

03:49:26.860 freezing eggs.

03:49:27.300 This is completely due to this.

03:49:28.320 I know you probably

03:49:29.040 don't know about this,

03:49:30.180 but it's...

03:49:30.860 Alcohol is one of the primary reasons

03:49:33.280 for having genetic abnormalities.

03:49:35.040 And then a woman's actual pregnancy, 0.68

03:49:38.180 like whether she has morning sickness,

03:49:40.200 whether it is a good pregnancy... 1.00

03:49:41.540 This is why the Irish are dumb. 1.00

03:49:42.900 ...a good pregnancy 1.00

03:49:43.940 or a bad pregnancy

03:49:45.180 is very dependent

03:49:46.300 on the lifestyle the man had

03:49:48.000 before they conceived

03:49:49.380 in the first place.

03:49:51.020 This is factual science

03:49:52.540 and anybody watching

03:49:53.800 can look this up.

03:49:54.860 And I hope that...

03:49:55.400 Yeah, it's better...

03:49:55.720 Hold on.

03:49:56.040 It's better for both men 0.97

03:49:57.160 and women to have children 1.00

03:49:58.340 when they're younger.

03:49:59.460 I agree with you

03:50:00.060 that sperm quality

03:50:00.880 declines over age.

03:50:02.320 But more because of lifestyle choices.

03:50:04.760 But what about women? 0.99

03:50:05.680 I make one comment

03:50:06.560 and it has to be

03:50:07.180 an entire separate conversation.

03:50:09.040 What if women have 1.00

03:50:10.000 bad lifestyle choices?

03:50:11.360 Wouldn't it be like

03:50:12.160 valid on both points?

03:50:13.720 It doesn't...

03:50:14.360 Actually, if a woman 1.00

03:50:15.100 drinks during pregnancy,

03:50:16.940 that's way worse

03:50:17.720 than if a man drinks.

03:50:18.000 Yeah, their body

03:50:19.160 definitely would not

03:50:20.080 handle pregnancy as well.

03:50:22.000 But it doesn't affect

03:50:22.980 the quality of their eggs

03:50:24.280 because they're born

03:50:25.180 with the eggs that they have.

03:50:26.920 Does that make sense?

03:50:27.580 So if you're doing heroin 0.99

03:50:29.040 and doing all this shit, 0.99

03:50:30.280 that has zero impact 1.00

03:50:31.600 on egg quality?

03:50:32.360 Oh, absolutely.

03:50:32.860 But do you know,

03:50:33.500 since, again,

03:50:34.220 this is a dating podcast,

03:50:36.080 how...

03:50:36.620 What is the average cycle

03:50:38.120 of a man to produce

03:50:39.320 a new, let's say, batch,

03:50:41.320 to put it politely?

03:50:43.140 I don't know.

03:50:43.880 Two weeks, maybe?

03:50:44.780 No, it's actually 90 days.

03:50:46.360 So if you want

03:50:47.040 a healthy batch

03:50:48.040 before conception,

03:50:49.720 you need to be cleansed

03:50:51.040 for 90 days.

03:50:52.040 No alcohol.

03:50:53.280 Try to get healthy.

03:50:54.300 Try to get in shape

03:50:55.180 so that a woman 0.99

03:50:56.200 can have

03:50:56.860 the healthiest

03:50:57.760 pregnancy possible 0.94

03:50:59.040 and you have

03:50:59.760 a great baby

03:51:01.280 with the best

03:51:02.080 genetic potential.

03:51:03.080 Yeah, that's great.

03:51:03.640 So it's crazy

03:51:04.040 that you don't know this

03:51:04.760 and we're on a dating show,

03:51:05.820 but that's why I'm here

03:51:06.660 because I want more people

03:51:07.760 to know this.

03:51:09.740 I don't understand

03:51:11.200 if we're going to

03:51:11.880 just do a pop quiz

03:51:13.020 like, oh,

03:51:13.740 you don't know

03:51:14.220 this very specific thing

03:51:15.300 about physiology.

03:51:16.940 How does that even

03:51:18.160 pertain to dating?

03:51:19.060 I'm sure there are

03:51:19.500 certain things

03:51:20.080 that you aren't aware

03:51:21.520 of like male bodily function

03:51:23.140 or even female bodily function 1.00

03:51:24.500 that I could...

03:51:25.040 So I could...

03:51:25.640 Yeah.

03:51:25.980 So are you an expert

03:51:27.360 in all physiology?

03:51:29.020 I actually care a lot. 0.98

03:51:30.440 God, you're so obnoxious. 0.71

03:51:30.920 I'm just... 0.99

03:51:31.400 You're actually obnoxious. 0.69

03:51:31.980 I'm sure I am to you. 0.75

03:51:33.920 Probably to the vast amount

03:51:35.420 of people too.

03:51:36.120 Yeah, no, it's just...

03:51:36.980 And your followers too,

03:51:38.080 for sure.

03:51:39.320 Yeah, but I don't understand

03:51:40.220 how because I have

03:51:41.740 a dating podcast,

03:51:42.380 does that mean I need

03:51:43.240 to be like a complete expert

03:51:44.640 on physiology?

03:51:45.460 Well, no, absolutely not.

03:51:46.580 Okay, so what's your point?

03:51:47.700 Well, my point is

03:51:48.600 that this is something

03:51:50.440 that has to do

03:51:51.460 with dating

03:51:52.060 and relationships

03:51:52.880 between men and women.

03:51:54.140 Like, what is a woman? 1.00

03:51:55.140 What is a woman's, 0.78

03:51:56.740 you know, menstrual cycle like?

03:51:58.160 What are the four phases of it?

03:51:59.660 I think that's the essence

03:52:00.720 to being a woman.

03:52:01.680 In this podcast,

03:52:02.800 historically,

03:52:04.040 you know,

03:52:04.320 you guys ask questions

03:52:05.360 that have nothing

03:52:06.080 to do with dating.

03:52:06.980 Like, you know,

03:52:07.440 when was the World War I

03:52:10.100 and what decade was it

03:52:11.880 in World War II?

03:52:13.500 Yeah, we hit all kinds

03:52:14.320 of topics.

03:52:14.900 We hit all kinds of topics.

03:52:15.820 Gotcha questions

03:52:16.580 that have nothing

03:52:17.480 to do with dating.

03:52:18.780 But the questions I'm asking

03:52:20.220 have to do with the basics.

03:52:21.160 It's called the Whatever podcast.

03:52:22.580 We talk about whatever

03:52:23.560 and primarily dating.

03:52:25.040 Okay, so,

03:52:25.900 but I think...

03:52:26.440 And sometimes we have

03:52:26.860 fun segments

03:52:27.540 that go into

03:52:28.720 different genres.

03:52:31.920 I don't see a problem

03:52:33.240 with that.

03:52:33.740 Okay, I'm just saying

03:52:34.600 that I think

03:52:35.200 the questions I asked

03:52:36.440 in relation to...

03:52:37.460 But some of those things

03:52:38.060 actually don't make much sense.

03:52:39.420 So, for instance,

03:52:40.000 yeah, so, for instance,

03:52:41.740 you said that the whole reason

03:52:43.300 for this is because

03:52:43.980 of how it pertains

03:52:44.780 to being a woman.

03:52:46.540 Yes.

03:52:46.760 What a woman is. 1.00

03:52:47.520 Yes.

03:52:47.800 But you would admit

03:52:48.500 that you can have women

03:52:49.460 who don't have

03:52:50.040 any cycles at all.

03:52:51.500 Oh, yeah.

03:52:52.180 Okay, so then

03:52:52.820 there's still women, though. 1.00

03:52:54.320 Yes.

03:52:54.800 Yeah?

03:52:55.220 So then...

03:52:55.600 You're absolutely sure,

03:52:56.440 but are you really

03:52:57.200 going to take the...

03:52:57.400 So, when you point that out...

03:52:58.360 You're 0.1%.

03:52:59.340 So, hang on.

03:53:00.180 So, when you point that out,

03:53:01.380 right, you're not going to say

03:53:02.920 that women who have no cycles 1.00

03:53:04.100 aren't still women. 1.00

03:53:05.540 And the problem

03:53:06.060 with those arguments,

03:53:07.640 and these are particularly...

03:53:08.800 Now you're sounding

03:53:09.200 like a feminist. 1.00

03:53:09.900 These are the particularly

03:53:10.720 bad ones.

03:53:11.840 The opposite.

03:53:12.800 These are the particularly

03:53:13.420 bad ones which come

03:53:14.380 from my side, the right,

03:53:15.720 unfortunately,

03:53:16.980 is that the left

03:53:17.800 will endlessly reduce this.

03:53:19.540 And I could do it

03:53:20.000 for you right now

03:53:20.580 to show you

03:53:21.260 how they'll endlessly

03:53:22.280 reduce it,

03:53:23.540 which is why you have

03:53:24.860 to actually have

03:53:25.460 the good answers for this

03:53:26.520 for what a woman 0.95

03:53:27.120 actually is.

03:53:28.860 That Walsh did not,

03:53:30.480 unfortunately.

03:53:31.460 He was close, though.

03:53:32.140 Are you talking about

03:53:32.380 Joe Walsh?

03:53:33.560 Matt Walsh.

03:53:34.300 Matt Walsh.

03:53:35.000 Gotcha.

03:53:35.620 So, when you say

03:53:36.580 these things,

03:53:37.100 you're like,

03:53:37.360 well, I'm just only

03:53:38.040 saying this because

03:53:38.680 that's what it pertains

03:53:39.480 to being a woman.

03:53:40.220 It's like, no,

03:53:41.240 you can be a woman

03:53:42.060 and not have any

03:53:42.700 of those things, actually.

03:53:43.900 Okay, so look at you

03:53:45.300 sounding all feminist.

03:53:46.540 That's not feminist. 1.00

03:53:47.940 You would agree with me

03:53:48.980 that that's the case, right?

03:53:50.040 Yes, I agree with you

03:53:50.980 that that's the case.

03:53:51.920 But I think for the

03:53:52.540 vast majority of women, 0.98

03:53:54.500 having a cycle

03:53:55.800 is what,

03:53:56.860 makes the essence

03:53:57.960 of being a woman,

03:53:58.700 the pain that we have

03:54:00.440 to endure during

03:54:01.640 our menstrual cycle

03:54:02.500 and the fact that

03:54:03.480 it is beneficial

03:54:04.700 for men

03:54:05.500 to know that information

03:54:06.760 because then you know

03:54:07.620 how to act around

03:54:08.680 a woman 0.57

03:54:09.140 during different phases

03:54:11.100 where she has

03:54:11.860 more energy,

03:54:13.080 less energy.

03:54:13.700 Do you know, for example,

03:54:15.920 how many days

03:54:16.840 out of a woman's 0.98

03:54:18.080 cycle she can 0.98

03:54:19.820 actually get pregnant

03:54:20.860 because I'm against

03:54:21.920 birth control? 0.99

03:54:22.780 Who fucking cares? 1.00

03:54:23.500 Holy shit. 1.00

03:54:24.120 Sorry, reclaiming my time. 0.99

03:54:25.600 I don't believe

03:54:26.080 I'm reclaiming my time.

03:54:26.860 You're done.

03:54:27.840 You don't want to answer.

03:54:28.420 No, it's not.

03:54:29.980 You've hijacked 1.00

03:54:30.880 the fucking conversation. 1.00

03:54:32.580 This is why I need 1.00

03:54:33.140 to come back.

03:54:33.540 Let me ask the panel.

03:54:34.500 Do you feel like

03:54:35.280 she's hijacking 1.00

03:54:36.360 the conversation?

03:54:37.480 Show of hands.

03:54:38.680 I think we have

03:54:39.380 a choice to speak up

03:54:40.520 as well.

03:54:41.540 Yeah, but she will like,

03:54:43.900 I'm the host.

03:54:44.720 When we're going around

03:54:45.620 on a question,

03:54:46.740 answer the question,

03:54:47.560 let somebody else speak.

03:54:48.660 Well, this one was my fault.

03:54:49.560 I think she has a lot to say.

03:54:50.480 Because I did actually

03:54:51.860 point this out.

03:54:54.240 Yeah, I don't think

03:54:54.660 it's intentional,

03:54:55.380 but it is a lot.

03:54:55.820 But yeah, the thing is

03:54:57.460 I'm just pointing out

03:54:58.680 that if you have

03:54:59.480 an exception here,

03:55:00.840 the exception will be used.

03:55:02.500 They'll say,

03:55:02.880 well, that's the exception

03:55:03.460 of the rule,

03:55:04.000 but if you're calling

03:55:04.440 that a woman, 0.99

03:55:05.460 then your definition

03:55:06.380 can't be correct.

03:55:07.580 That's why I'm always going,

03:55:09.060 okay, well,

03:55:09.740 we've got to really

03:55:10.180 critique the argument

03:55:11.380 to make sure we got

03:55:12.660 the right one.

03:55:13.700 Because while you could say

03:55:14.720 this is in the essence

03:55:15.620 of a thing,

03:55:16.840 it's like,

03:55:17.440 so is it the thing?

03:55:19.260 And it's not the thing.

03:55:20.940 No, I also mentioned

03:55:21.900 having female bodily 0.99

03:55:23.840 reproductive parts.

03:55:25.260 But you would agree

03:55:26.120 there too,

03:55:28.260 that you don't need

03:55:29.440 to have any female

03:55:30.300 reproductive parts 0.90

03:55:31.140 to be a female. 0.99

03:55:31.640 Can we get a new question?

03:55:32.580 We're so off track.

03:55:33.360 Then in that case,

03:55:33.740 they would probably

03:55:34.420 be somewhere,

03:55:35.400 like,

03:55:35.620 that's a medically abnormal

03:55:36.880 example that you're giving.

03:55:39.920 Well, there's only two

03:55:40.500 genotypical paths

03:55:41.320 you can take.

03:55:41.980 Well, actually,

03:55:42.440 it's called

03:55:42.740 Klinefelter syndrome,

03:55:43.720 and you can have

03:55:44.880 an XXY chromosome.

03:55:46.920 So you have both

03:55:47.700 male and female.

03:55:48.540 That's correct.

03:55:49.260 Klinefelter syndrome,

03:55:50.660 though,

03:55:50.860 would not dictate sex

03:55:52.600 and never has.

03:55:53.740 So you can have males

03:55:54.800 who have a XX chromosome,

03:55:58.140 but they're still male.

03:55:59.300 Yeah.

03:55:59.840 And just like you can have

03:56:00.680 females who have a Y chromosome,

03:56:01.980 so you can't use that either.

03:56:03.200 I'm glad we're discussing that.

03:56:03.660 Which is why you have

03:56:04.420 to utilize genotypical,

03:56:06.340 the genotypical pathways.

03:56:08.380 God.

03:56:09.120 What's your point

03:56:09.980 to all this?

03:56:10.600 My point was to...

03:56:11.500 Let me move it on.

03:56:11.840 Okay, go ahead.

03:56:12.840 Go ahead.

03:56:13.000 My point is that

03:56:13.820 I can reduce your position

03:56:15.480 to nonsense, 0.50

03:56:16.340 and that's why

03:56:16.740 it's a bit of bad arguments

03:56:18.080 from the right.

03:56:18.740 No, my position is you guys

03:56:19.040 don't know the basics of women, 1.00

03:56:19.980 and I think we should start there

03:56:21.200 on a dating podcast.

03:56:21.980 The basics of women? 0.97

03:56:23.180 Yes.

03:56:23.480 So a man who doesn't know

03:56:25.040 the names of the luteal phases,

03:56:27.620 which, by the way...

03:56:28.260 Men in happy marriages

03:56:29.260 and relationships

03:56:30.080 know their women's phases,

03:56:31.620 trust me.

03:56:32.200 That's true.

03:56:32.760 They don't know

03:56:33.220 what the luteal phase is, though.

03:56:35.140 Do you know what it is?

03:56:35.400 Them knowing that their woman's 0.99

03:56:36.680 on her period

03:56:37.340 has nothing to do

03:56:38.280 with knowing what it's called.

03:56:39.940 You're less of a man.

03:56:40.640 Come on. 0.97

03:56:41.260 If you don't know

03:56:42.200 the biological or physiological phases

03:56:46.120 of a woman's menstruation 0.88

03:56:47.820 or periods,

03:56:48.480 you're less of a man

03:56:49.500 because of that.

03:56:49.980 No, but you do get brownie points

03:56:51.340 with women for knowing that.

03:56:51.460 I don't think you're less of a man,

03:56:53.180 but it does help you

03:56:54.180 within the relationship

03:56:55.180 and the dynamic

03:56:56.280 if you know what phase

03:56:57.440 your wife or girlfriend

03:56:59.360 is going through

03:57:00.040 because then you'll have either...

03:57:01.080 She's always in the

03:57:01.760 I'm going fishing phase.

03:57:02.860 You'll have either more patience for her

03:57:04.760 because she is PMSing

03:57:06.320 or you will know

03:57:08.180 that she's going to be

03:57:09.060 really horny this week

03:57:10.140 because she is in that... 0.84

03:57:11.400 Ovulation.

03:57:12.240 In ovulation, right?

03:57:13.580 It kind of sets you up for success

03:57:15.120 knowing what phase

03:57:16.200 your person's going through.

03:57:16.840 Correct.

03:57:17.140 And it's also why

03:57:18.340 I think women don't need birth control 1.00

03:57:21.160 if they plan around their cycle.

03:57:24.120 And so the way to do that,

03:57:25.980 and I'm sure this is a position

03:57:27.160 you as conservatives

03:57:28.020 probably agree with,

03:57:29.500 you know,

03:57:29.780 not being on hormonal birth control

03:57:31.340 because it's bad for women. 1.00

03:57:32.860 The way to get off of that

03:57:34.860 is by tracking basal body temperature. 1.00

03:57:38.200 Read the fucking room, lady. 1.00

03:57:39.240 Read the fucking room. 1.00

03:57:40.320 There's actually... 1.00

03:57:40.940 Why are we talking about white?

03:57:42.080 There's a much more...

03:57:43.200 Here, let me be the host.

03:57:44.300 Go for it.

03:57:44.780 You're the panelist.

03:57:45.860 Go for it.

03:57:46.040 Now you want to shift it into...

03:57:48.660 What is a woman? 1.00

03:57:49.360 As conservative men,

03:57:50.960 you should be aware of,

03:57:52.060 you know, the birth control.

03:57:54.080 Let me host.

03:57:54.960 Okay.

03:57:55.380 You're not the host.

03:57:56.260 Nope, I'm not.

03:57:56.680 Be a panelist.

03:57:57.520 Yes, I will.

03:57:57.920 Stop trying to direct

03:57:58.720 the conversation, lady.

03:58:00.500 Do you wear the pants

03:58:01.100 in your relationship?

03:58:02.500 I don't.

03:58:03.340 I have a man who is extreme. 1.00

03:58:04.220 Oh man, you fucking walk... 1.00

03:58:05.400 You walk your boyfriend 1.00

03:58:06.300 on a fucking leash. 1.00

03:58:07.320 I bet you fucking 1.00

03:58:08.140 pegged that guy. 0.99

03:58:08.960 It's gonna be... 0.99

03:58:09.220 You fucking pegged that guy. 1.00

03:58:10.620 You're fucking conservative here. 1.00

03:58:12.420 Did we just finally cross the line 1.00

03:58:14.540 where you assume things

03:58:15.880 and try to insult me

03:58:17.140 or my boyfriend?

03:58:17.800 You've been doing it all night.

03:58:19.160 You've been doing it all night.

03:58:20.460 Because you can't have

03:58:21.120 a good argument.

03:58:22.180 No, because you've been

03:58:23.040 incredibly disrespectful.

03:58:24.480 No, I have not.

03:58:24.840 And rude.

03:58:25.340 Yes, you're trying to be the host.

03:58:26.720 Tell me one disrespectful thing.

03:58:27.760 You ought to defer to me.

03:58:29.540 You ought to defer to me

03:58:30.740 as the host.

03:58:31.580 Go ahead, but I'm just...

03:58:32.700 I ask specifically

03:58:34.060 because I don't want to be rude.

03:58:35.640 Can I ask this?

03:58:36.760 Can I ask that?

03:58:38.120 And then go ahead.

03:58:38.860 But if you tell me

03:58:39.880 if somebody else speaks

03:58:41.580 or answers that question,

03:58:43.000 I'll leave the floor to you.

03:58:44.760 I want an entertaining podcast.

03:58:46.240 I think we're getting

03:58:46.780 a lot of views

03:58:47.340 and subscribers as a result.

03:58:48.300 Yeah, but I want to be...

03:58:49.440 Yes, entertainment is great.

03:58:51.480 And it is entertaining

03:58:52.580 having you and Andrew debate.

03:58:55.140 Probably for the viewers,

03:58:56.580 probably, frankly,

03:58:57.340 the most entertaining thing

03:58:58.240 would be for you guys

03:58:59.160 to talk for the next four hours.

03:59:01.200 That would probably...

03:59:01.960 No offense to the other panelists.

03:59:03.320 That would probably be

03:59:04.240 the most entertaining thing.

03:59:05.680 But I need to balance that

03:59:07.160 with the fact that

03:59:07.760 we have eight, nine, ten

03:59:08.960 other people here

03:59:09.660 who I would like to involve

03:59:11.320 in the conversation.

03:59:12.380 Go for it.

03:59:12.760 And who could also perhaps

03:59:14.480 provide some entertainment.

03:59:16.280 Go for it.

03:59:17.180 Except for you.

03:59:17.720 Could you ask another question?

03:59:21.220 Next question.

03:59:22.120 That's what I'm trying to do.

03:59:22.880 I'm going to let...

03:59:23.380 I have two chats

03:59:24.620 that I need to do here real quick.

03:59:27.180 Hold on one moment.

03:59:29.040 We have Siri.

03:59:30.920 What's this going to do?

03:59:32.500 Siri donated $200.

03:59:35.240 Hi, I'm Siri.

03:59:36.780 Hi, Siri.

03:59:37.300 Hi, Siri.

03:59:38.040 Hi, Siri.

03:59:38.540 Hello.

03:59:41.920 All right.

03:59:43.140 Okay.

03:59:44.840 I'm trying to remember

03:59:45.700 where we kind of left off.

03:59:47.740 I think really...

03:59:48.360 You had to ask the question,

03:59:49.100 what is a woman? 1.00

03:59:50.060 I did ask that.

03:59:51.740 I mean, I don't know

03:59:52.240 if we fully finalized

03:59:53.220 on the conversation.

03:59:54.040 I was going around.

03:59:55.060 I would like to hear answers

03:59:56.480 from the remainder

03:59:57.220 of the panel.

03:59:58.320 So the question is,

03:59:59.360 if we can say men should,

04:00:01.540 what can we say women should? 1.00

04:00:03.340 Well, I don't think

04:00:06.440 it's always practice,

04:00:07.380 but be submissive to the guy.

04:00:09.540 If he's practicing shiv... 0.97

04:00:10.760 I can't say the word.

04:00:12.480 Chivaracy. 0.98

04:00:13.320 Chivaracy? 0.98

04:00:14.560 Chivaracy. 0.98

04:00:15.200 The woman should be submissive. 1.00

04:00:16.240 Chivaracy. 0.98

04:00:16.920 Then if in return,

04:00:18.600 then submissive to the man

04:00:20.040 if he's practicing that.

04:00:21.380 I think for me at least,

04:00:23.180 I try to fill the gap

04:00:23.980 as much as possible.

04:00:25.080 So whether that be

04:00:26.040 like cleaning his house

04:00:27.880 or just basically doing

04:00:28.860 whatever I can

04:00:29.760 to like make up for the fact

04:00:30.820 that he's doing all this stuff

04:00:32.060 for me,

04:00:32.360 like opening doors

04:00:33.080 and paying for dinners

04:00:34.400 and stuff like that.

04:00:35.240 I just try to be as nice

04:00:36.640 and as submissive as possible.

04:00:41.420 Submissive and chastity.

04:00:42.900 I mean, you should let the man lead

04:00:44.620 and play your role too

04:00:46.640 if you want a traditional way of living.

04:00:50.340 If you believe in that,

04:00:51.300 then you should kind of

04:00:52.260 go by those rules.

04:00:55.420 Submissive, nurturing,

04:00:56.560 deferring to him on decisions.

04:00:58.060 No, no, no.

04:00:58.820 That can't be the angle, Nathan.

04:01:00.700 Oh, sorry.

04:01:01.260 Go ahead.

04:01:01.740 Go ahead.

04:01:03.360 Nurturing in the family,

04:01:04.980 loyalty, getting pregnant.

04:01:08.340 Go ahead.

04:01:09.320 I think if a man is chivarious 0.98

04:01:10.780 towards me,

04:01:12.200 what I can do in return

04:01:13.100 is look my best,

04:01:15.620 be a really focused partner

04:01:18.600 and on their needs

04:01:19.720 since they're meeting my needs.

04:01:22.380 And I would also say

04:01:25.120 I can give back, right?

04:01:27.640 So if they're being chivalrous for me,

04:01:29.120 I can get them small gifts.

04:01:31.380 I can create ideas for our own dates.

04:01:34.240 That way there's like a back and forth.

04:01:39.300 I think women should be respectful 0.85

04:01:41.740 towards men.

04:01:43.200 That's what I think.

04:01:48.360 Yeah, being respectful towards the man,

04:01:51.140 being respectful towards yourself,

04:01:53.100 helping with cooking

04:01:54.620 as well as cleaning,

04:01:56.160 child care, childbirth.

04:01:58.060 If you're in a long-term committed relationship

04:02:00.540 where the family is the goal,

04:02:02.240 ideally that would happen.

04:02:03.080 Okay.

04:02:06.980 I tend to agree with some of you.

04:02:08.540 I think if men should be chivalrous,

04:02:10.220 women should be submissive. 1.00

04:02:12.800 Women should defer to men's leadership. 1.00

04:02:15.860 If women want men to be leaders, 0.98

04:02:17.380 women should be followers. 1.00

04:02:18.980 Women should defer to men's leadership. 1.00

04:02:21.780 In addition to that,

04:02:22.700 I think women should be, 1.00

04:02:24.380 I think there's a term in the Bible, Andrew,

04:02:25.880 you'll have to help made,

04:02:27.400 help mead.

04:02:28.860 Am I a help mate?

04:02:30.620 Help mate, I think.

04:02:31.480 Or am I thinking of something else?

04:02:33.940 But essentially,

04:02:34.780 a woman should cook, 1.00

04:02:38.420 a woman should clean, 1.00

04:02:40.060 et cetera, et cetera.

04:02:41.660 It should not be vexing.

04:02:43.940 Yes.

04:02:44.900 That's it.

04:02:45.440 Not nagging, not quarreling.

04:02:46.180 Everything else falls under that.

04:02:49.100 No, not vexing.

04:02:51.100 What is that word?

04:02:52.680 Vexatious.

04:02:53.200 It's like you could associate it maybe with running down

04:03:00.620 or causing trouble, causing havoc,

04:03:04.780 causing problems within his life,

04:03:07.840 basically deferring to herself instead of to him.

04:03:11.000 That would be vexatious.

04:03:13.880 So selfish or not thinking of the other person.

04:03:16.860 Yeah, I mean,

04:03:19.000 they're not quite synonyms,

04:03:20.780 like selfishness and vexing.

04:03:23.180 Vexing would be like, 1.00

04:03:24.340 a synonym would be more like pain in the ass. 1.00

04:03:26.560 Okay. 1.00

04:03:26.880 That would be more.

04:03:27.480 And rudely going against.

04:03:29.320 Yeah.

04:03:29.840 Pretty much.

04:03:30.500 All right, next topic.

04:03:31.820 We have,

04:03:32.640 you know what we're going to do?

04:03:34.660 Hmm.

04:03:36.860 Yeah, we'll do,

04:03:37.740 we'll do this.

04:03:39.380 Mary Jane.

04:03:40.900 Yes.

04:03:42.180 That's you.

04:03:43.420 A disagreement you have with the show

04:03:45.580 is age gap relationships.

04:03:47.160 Yes.

04:03:47.600 You're against them for a multitude of reasons.

04:03:49.800 Why is that?

04:03:50.840 Because of the natural imbalance

04:03:52.940 that can happen within an age gap relationship

04:03:56.040 for both genders.

04:03:57.800 Naturally, someone who's much older

04:03:59.340 is going to have more education.

04:04:00.900 They're going to have more life experience.

04:04:02.600 They're going to have a bigger income.

04:04:04.880 And because of that imbalance,

04:04:06.400 there is a higher risk for abuse or manipulation.

04:04:09.520 That's why I'm against them.

04:04:11.880 And I will add that I am a child

04:04:13.500 of an age gap relationship.

04:04:15.060 My father is 19 years older than my mother.

04:04:18.020 And I have several family members

04:04:20.160 that are in age gap relationships.

04:04:21.780 And I have seen them negatively be affected by them.

04:04:24.880 Did your parents get divorced?

04:04:26.300 Yes.

04:04:26.720 My mother was 21 when she divorced my father.

04:04:29.060 Can I ask you a question?

04:04:29.740 Oh, okay.

04:04:30.240 Not, were they divorced?

04:04:32.360 Would you recommend that all of your friends

04:04:34.300 who are in age gap relationships get a divorce?

04:04:37.020 Um, I think it depends per relationship

04:04:43.260 and the amount of age that the gap is.

04:04:46.260 So for example, if, you know,

04:04:48.720 if it's 10 years, you're younger.

04:04:50.220 So let's say you had one that are

04:04:51.340 in a 15 year age gap relationship, a friend.

04:04:53.680 They've been married for five years

04:04:55.120 and they have two kids together.

04:04:56.700 Would you recommend that they go ahead

04:04:58.040 and get divorced?

04:04:58.740 If the woman is being any kind of abused or...

04:05:02.880 Well, no, she says that she absolutely adores him

04:05:05.340 and he says the same thing and they have kids together

04:05:07.500 and they seem happy, should they get a divorce?

04:05:08.860 Then I wouldn't recommend a divorce if they're happy.

04:05:11.180 Then age gaps themselves are not the problem then.

04:05:18.000 I would still say it's a problem

04:05:20.000 just because of all of the reasons I listed earlier

04:05:23.040 of like the older person having a power imbalance.

04:05:26.060 What is the power imbalance?

04:05:27.180 Like I said, they have more money.

04:05:29.800 They have more life experience.

04:05:31.200 It's easier to manipulate the younger person

04:05:33.600 into believing, okay, I'm this perfect like partner

04:05:38.200 that's going to, you know, do all of these things for you.

04:05:42.200 And then in the end, there may be like not paying

04:05:45.980 all the bills.

04:05:46.820 You're trying to make sure that you're staying home.

04:05:49.880 But can't that happen in an age similar relationship?

04:05:51.780 Okay, I can give you a perfect example.

04:05:53.160 My mother immigrated here with my father at 18, pregnant with me.

04:05:57.900 My father was the provider.

04:06:01.200 My father went out and worked.

04:06:02.860 But a lot of times the lights would go out

04:06:05.100 because he wasn't paying the electric bill.

04:06:06.880 He was gambling.

04:06:08.620 My mother, it wasn't until my mother started speaking

04:06:11.460 full English and was able to go get a job

04:06:14.240 that we were able to reliably stay in a home.

04:06:18.880 What does that have anything to do?

04:06:20.500 Those things could manifest themselves in an equal age relationship.

04:06:24.740 Well, they're also, that's also culturally informed.

04:06:27.400 So they were coming from which nation?

04:06:29.480 Lebanon.

04:06:29.900 Yeah.

04:06:30.260 So there it's very common.

04:06:31.220 Where age gap relationships are very common.

04:06:32.820 Yeah, not only very common, but so are incestuous relationships, right?

04:06:35.740 Yes.

04:06:35.980 Also very common.

04:06:36.740 Cousins get married there.

04:06:37.800 First cousins.

04:06:38.700 Yes.

04:06:39.220 Yes, they do.

04:06:39.760 The thing is, is like the idea of having the cultural information,

04:06:44.720 being culturally informed.

04:06:45.740 Don't you think that here in the United States,

04:06:47.740 there's a huge distinction between, oh, they're 16, 17, 18 in Iran

04:06:54.020 and they're marrying a 30-year-old

04:06:55.640 because that's part of how they keep legacies together

04:06:58.260 with their first cousins or whatever and various things like this.

04:07:00.940 And I live in the United States and can freely choose who I'm with

04:07:05.540 and I have very different cultural information.

04:07:08.120 But those kinds of marriages happen here too.

04:07:11.260 No.

04:07:11.700 17-year-olds get married, 18-year-olds get married.

04:07:14.520 They're not arranged marriages.

04:07:16.280 I personally know a 19-year-old that got married to a 53-year-old.

04:07:20.040 Okay.

04:07:20.380 What's the issue with that?

04:07:21.300 And they were constantly boasting their age gap relationship

04:07:24.760 and they ended up getting divorced.

04:07:27.460 And she ended up getting verbally and emotionally abused. 0.58

04:07:30.600 But let's say they didn't end up getting divorced.

04:07:32.840 Yeah, control imbalance.

04:07:33.680 But let's say they didn't end up getting divorced

04:07:35.560 and let's say there was no emotional abuse

04:07:37.320 and let's say they had two kids

04:07:38.500 and let's say right now they were still happy.

04:07:40.240 What was your issue then?

04:07:41.280 Would you have an issue with it, with the age gap itself?

04:07:43.720 No, because for me, my issue with the age gap

04:07:45.600 comes with the power imbalance.

04:07:47.740 So your issue's not with age gaps, it's with power imbalances.

04:07:52.360 Yes and no, because there's still that maturity level

04:07:55.480 that you reach when you get to a certain age.

04:07:58.780 But it's not inherent to the thing, right?

04:08:02.060 So anytime I ask you what's the actual issue with the age gap,

04:08:05.380 you point to things that have nothing to do with the age gap itself.

04:08:09.400 So if it's the case that you had an age gap

04:08:11.080 where the power was not imbalanced from your view,

04:08:13.620 then that age gap...

04:08:14.480 She's saying life experience.

04:08:15.560 Right.

04:08:16.180 Well, but even then, you could have like a 30-year-old shut-in guy 0.99

04:08:20.880 who marries a fucking 19-year-old 0.99

04:08:22.880 who's traveled with her parents all over the world. 1.00

04:08:25.240 Then the experience seems equally yoked or similarly yoked.

04:08:28.120 But she's not emotionally mature

04:08:29.800 because her prefrontal cortex has not fully developed.

04:08:32.560 Then why is she allowed to vote? 1.00

04:08:35.380 That's different than entering a marriage.

04:08:37.460 Well, I...

04:08:38.360 It's how far different...

04:08:39.260 You can vote on who can get married,

04:08:43.840 but you can't get married?

04:08:46.300 No, I mean, you can get married,

04:08:47.680 but I would think that it would be to a detriment

04:08:50.480 or inappropriate for an 18-year-old to get married

04:08:53.080 to a 30-year-old or a 50-year-old.

04:08:55.300 Yeah.

04:08:55.640 Because again, there's not just life experience,

04:08:58.700 there's education, there's emotional maturity.

04:09:01.180 Yeah, but do you see like the conflation you're doing here?

04:09:05.080 An 18-year-old, let's say she gets married to a 31-year-old guy.

04:09:08.180 That to you, no-go, right?

04:09:10.120 That's like no-go.

04:09:11.800 Can the 18-year-old though override the vote

04:09:14.060 of the 31-year-old guy?

04:09:16.060 Override?

04:09:16.540 Yeah, meaning she can nullify his vote 0.99

04:09:18.620 by just voting against him.

04:09:19.740 I wouldn't agree that.

04:09:20.460 I mean, I would say they both deserve the right to vote.

04:09:22.700 They both have the right,

04:09:23.760 but she can vote against him, which nullifies his vote.

04:09:26.900 I guess.

04:09:27.540 Yeah, so how is she informed enough to do that?

04:09:31.260 She's informed enough to vote against him

04:09:33.460 for all social issues in society,

04:09:35.260 but it's not informed enough to date him.

04:09:36.920 Because I think that relationships

04:09:38.320 and voting for a society are two different things.

04:09:41.520 Yeah, one's way more important,

04:09:42.780 and that would be voting for societal issues, right?

04:09:44.680 It involves a bunch of people

04:09:45.640 to override each other's votes.

04:09:46.900 Being in a relationship, this is only two people.

04:09:49.180 Right, that's right.

04:09:50.240 It's only two people.

04:09:51.320 But now you're letting an 18-year-old vote in my interest,

04:09:55.380 but at the same time saying

04:09:56.860 that it would be somehow immoral

04:09:58.420 if somebody my age dated one.

04:10:00.660 And it's like, wait, what?

04:10:02.040 That's bizarre.

04:10:03.220 Not saying that I would, 0.93

04:10:04.280 I'm just pointing out this hypocrisy,

04:10:06.160 or not hypocrisy, but contradiction.

04:10:08.300 You guys aren't coming together as a unit, though.

04:10:10.800 You're just like intermeshing in society.

04:10:13.260 Yeah, but the thing is,

04:10:14.360 is like if you can vote against my interests, right,

04:10:17.580 then we're considering you the same type of adult that I am.

04:10:21.240 And so if that's the case,

04:10:22.460 if you're being imbued with the power

04:10:24.500 of being the same kind of adult as me,

04:10:26.920 then suddenly this saying that,

04:10:29.260 hey, I'm going to infantilize women 1.00

04:10:31.140 or infantilize young men

04:10:32.620 and tell them that they can't do X

04:10:34.500 or shouldn't do X,

04:10:36.000 that seems silly to me.

04:10:37.420 It's like, are they adults or are they not adults?

04:10:39.800 They're adults, but they live and they learn.

04:10:41.880 And if they come across a man that's not a predator,

04:10:45.360 then, you know,

04:10:46.880 that just because he's older

04:10:48.000 doesn't make him a predator.

04:10:49.260 Him acting like a predator

04:10:50.180 makes him a predator at that point.

04:10:51.680 But that's true at any age.

04:10:52.700 My concern is that relationships

04:10:54.460 have all these differences as well.

04:10:55.840 Yeah, isn't that true at any age?

04:10:57.060 Like women at 21, 1.00

04:10:59.000 dating a 21-year-old

04:11:00.460 should avoid 21-year-old predators.

04:11:02.380 There's real predators that target minors. 0.83

04:11:04.720 And at 18, they have that choice

04:11:06.820 to go and date an older man.

04:11:08.880 And if they do so,

04:11:10.380 there might be consequences.

04:11:11.480 It might be great.

04:11:12.180 They might get abused.

04:11:12.980 There's also predatory 18-year-old OF girls

04:11:15.820 who target lonely men.

04:11:18.180 Like, so what?

04:11:18.840 That's way...

04:11:19.220 So what?

04:11:20.300 That is a way lower number of people.

04:11:23.480 Predatory men?

04:11:24.180 Based on what?

04:11:24.420 No, no, based...

04:11:25.700 You said predatory men

04:11:26.980 who are specifically targeting

04:11:29.000 18-year-olds to date them.

04:11:30.600 So, do we hate 18?

04:11:31.760 Younger women.

04:11:32.720 Wait, what?

04:11:33.860 Yeah, you're targeting

04:11:35.280 an 18-year-old to date her?

04:11:36.620 That makes you predatory?

04:11:37.780 No, what makes you a predator

04:11:39.340 is if it's not consensual.

04:11:41.280 At 18, they can consent. 0.58

04:11:42.660 That is their right to do so.

04:11:43.620 That's my whole point.

04:11:44.340 They are being in non-consensual relationships.

04:11:46.800 How do you...

04:11:47.500 Yeah, I'm just saying,

04:11:48.280 what would make them a predator...

04:11:49.500 So what would make a 30-year-old guy

04:11:51.300 a predator for wanting

04:11:52.440 to date 18-year-olds then?

04:11:53.720 You can.

04:11:54.580 Because they know

04:11:55.280 that they have less experience

04:11:57.020 with dating.

04:11:58.120 It's easier to get them

04:11:59.540 to do what they want to do.

04:12:01.820 Go ahead.

04:12:02.320 So I think Mikayla Peterson

04:12:03.700 actually made a tweet about this

04:12:04.900 the other day.

04:12:05.340 It went pretty viral.

04:12:06.220 I think it's just cope

04:12:07.360 for older women.

04:12:08.700 Totally.

04:12:09.260 Like being jealous

04:12:10.280 of the younger women

04:12:11.240 that are still fertile

04:12:12.640 and desired by older men.

04:12:14.520 I disagree.

04:12:14.960 I don't agree entirely.

04:12:16.360 I've been approached

04:12:17.380 by a 20-year-old

04:12:18.360 that wanted to date me

04:12:19.360 so badly.

04:12:20.400 Stop.

04:12:20.660 Let her finish her point.

04:12:23.060 Okay, I think I lost

04:12:24.020 my train of thought.

04:12:24.780 But basically...

04:12:25.480 That's why we don't want

04:12:26.180 people interrupting.

04:12:27.740 If you can...

04:12:28.720 Fertility.

04:12:29.720 Mikayla Peterson.

04:12:30.580 Well, you're referencing

04:12:31.360 Mikayla Peterson.

04:12:32.460 Yeah, okay.

04:12:33.000 Thank you.

04:12:33.560 So basically,

04:12:34.460 it's not because

04:12:35.700 most of the time

04:12:36.780 that the men

04:12:38.600 are desiring the women 1.00

04:12:39.620 for their age.

04:12:40.580 It's because they're

04:12:41.440 desiring the traits

04:12:42.760 of...

04:12:43.580 like the typical traits

04:12:46.080 of a woman that age.

04:12:46.920 Not every younger woman 0.53

04:12:48.280 is going to be fertile.

04:12:49.880 It's more typical.

04:12:51.000 Okay, being sued.

04:12:52.380 It's not about fertility.

04:12:54.240 It's about a multiple mind.

04:12:56.020 It's also about a lot of...

04:12:57.440 Is that right?

04:12:58.140 Yes.

04:12:59.040 Let me ask you a question.

04:13:01.480 Do you believe in the idea

04:13:03.440 of like biological evolution?

04:13:05.360 Yes.

04:13:05.820 Okay.

04:13:07.060 So the whole idea

04:13:09.520 of evolution

04:13:11.220 is to procreate, right?

04:13:13.120 It's to reproduce.

04:13:14.820 Yes.

04:13:15.000 That's like the primary edict.

04:13:16.220 Yes.

04:13:16.780 So wouldn't attraction

04:13:18.060 be built into that primary edict?

04:13:20.400 Yes.

04:13:20.880 Okay.

04:13:21.280 So what would a man then

04:13:23.160 be looking for

04:13:24.180 the most

04:13:25.540 based on attraction

04:13:26.920 from an evolutionary standpoint

04:13:28.280 to guarantee reproduction?

04:13:31.280 Childbearing hips. 0.99

04:13:32.600 Fertile women. 1.00

04:13:32.800 Young women.

04:13:33.800 Wait, young women? 0.98

04:13:35.560 I mean...

04:13:36.140 Ew.

04:13:36.720 They don't... 0.66

04:13:37.280 They don't want women 1.00

04:13:38.520 their own age

04:13:39.420 with the same materials.

04:13:40.440 What's wrong with women 1.00

04:13:40.460 that aren't disrespecting them?

04:13:41.880 Hang on.

04:13:42.200 I'm not saying young women 0.99

04:13:43.720 that's predatory sounding as well.

04:13:45.020 Why?

04:13:45.220 Why is it predatory?

04:13:46.100 Well, hang on.

04:13:46.840 Do you mean adults?

04:13:47.540 Hang on.

04:13:48.020 Adult women? 0.99

04:13:49.360 We can't.

04:13:50.160 But like when you're always

04:13:51.060 looking for a young...

04:13:52.880 We're talking about

04:13:53.740 like much younger too.

04:13:54.800 Yeah, I'm talking about that too.

04:13:55.720 We're not talking about

04:13:56.320 like 15 year olds.

04:13:57.300 No, we're not.

04:13:57.840 We're talking about 18.

04:13:59.180 Yes, we're talking about

04:13:59.800 18 year olds

04:14:00.260 which I do consider children.

04:14:01.740 We're talking about

04:14:02.380 18 year olds.

04:14:02.860 I know that.

04:14:03.720 If you're eight,

04:14:04.300 I know that.

04:14:04.640 There's still differences.

04:14:05.560 Hang on.

04:14:05.780 Help me out here.

04:14:06.500 If I'm wrong...

04:14:07.580 Just graduated high school.

04:14:08.440 Hang on.

04:14:08.700 If I'm wrong,

04:14:09.420 if I'm wrong,

04:14:09.980 just help me out here.

04:14:11.060 Yeah, 18 year olds.

04:14:12.120 Just hang on, hang on.

04:14:13.000 Just walk through this with me.

04:14:14.500 Do you believe

04:14:15.100 that evolution's true?

04:14:16.640 Yes.

04:14:17.100 Okay.

04:14:17.740 Is the primary edict

04:14:18.920 of evolution

04:14:20.200 to reproduce?

04:14:21.820 Yes.

04:14:21.940 That's the primary...

04:14:22.340 Okay.

04:14:23.200 So is attraction

04:14:24.200 built into reproduction?

04:14:25.760 You can't reproduce

04:14:26.720 with people...

04:14:26.960 Yeah, it's one of the things

04:14:28.040 that leads to reproduction. 1.00

04:14:29.580 Well, it's the only...

04:14:30.580 Reproduction.

04:14:31.100 And reproduction can also happen

04:14:32.600 without a relationship

04:14:33.920 and marriage,

04:14:34.820 but we're also talking

04:14:35.940 in the sense of a relationship

04:14:36.900 and marriage.

04:14:36.920 I'm just talking about attraction.

04:14:37.900 I'm not even talking about that.

04:14:39.080 I'm just talking about attraction.

04:14:40.400 Absent attraction,

04:14:41.300 there's no reproduction.

04:14:42.340 Well, I'm not talking about us

04:14:43.540 like we're animals right now.

04:14:44.540 I'm talking about humans.

04:14:46.860 If you're not attracted

04:14:47.840 to another human,

04:14:48.640 you're not going to reproduce

04:14:49.480 with them.

04:14:49.980 So you can't be attracted

04:14:51.000 to someone your own age?

04:14:52.220 Yeah, okay.

04:14:52.480 That's not what I'm saying.

04:14:53.660 Or close to your age?

04:14:54.560 I'm just asking you

04:14:55.800 about attraction.

04:14:56.860 Of course you can.

04:14:57.460 So then,

04:14:58.200 if the primary edict

04:14:59.320 is to reproduce,

04:15:01.160 right,

04:15:01.840 and it is,

04:15:02.600 then what do you think

04:15:04.120 would be built in evolutionarily

04:15:05.660 to men

04:15:06.460 for who they should be

04:15:08.060 most attracted to

04:15:09.440 if reproduction's

04:15:11.380 the primary edict?

04:15:12.320 Wouldn't it be

04:15:12.900 younger, fertile women? 1.00

04:15:16.280 Yeah, but that's not a...

04:15:17.280 Exactly, exactly.

04:15:18.820 Yeah, but that's just one thing

04:15:20.680 and there are so many points to it.

04:15:22.360 Younger, fertile women? 1.00

04:15:23.340 Okay, so now you're thinking

04:15:24.360 about the mother.

04:15:25.480 This is the mother of my child.

04:15:26.680 Is this younger, fertile woman 0.92

04:15:28.300 just going to be

04:15:29.660 your point of,

04:15:31.420 your option

04:15:32.080 because she's

04:15:32.680 young and fertile?

04:15:34.020 No, but it's going to be

04:15:34.760 a primary reason.

04:15:36.140 Yeah, I agree.

04:15:37.080 Do you need to consider

04:15:37.760 other things

04:15:38.640 like maturity,

04:15:39.640 who she is,

04:15:41.600 her family,

04:15:42.500 whatever.

04:15:42.980 I agree with you

04:15:43.880 in the point

04:15:44.480 that humans

04:15:45.900 use logic

04:15:46.820 and reason

04:15:47.460 in these various,

04:15:48.460 we have various capabilities.

04:15:49.640 We're not just

04:15:50.080 at root,

04:15:51.400 just pure instinct.

04:15:52.860 But attraction

04:15:53.500 is the primary thing

04:15:55.080 that matters

04:15:55.860 for the beginning

04:15:57.160 of a relationship.

04:15:58.440 Very difficult

04:15:59.220 for women

04:15:59.980 to date men

04:16:00.820 they're not attracted to

04:16:01.820 and it's very difficult

04:16:02.960 for men. 0.96

04:16:03.740 They might screw a woman 1.00

04:16:04.900 they're not particularly 0.94

04:16:05.580 attracted to

04:16:06.380 but they're probably

04:16:07.560 not going to date

04:16:08.360 a woman 0.57

04:16:08.640 that they're not

04:16:09.200 attracted to at all.

04:16:10.500 So attraction

04:16:10.960 is the primary edict

04:16:11.860 that would even start

04:16:13.080 the idea of reproduction.

04:16:14.440 So if it's the case

04:16:16.240 that men

04:16:18.060 from your own perspective

04:16:19.560 would be attracted

04:16:20.600 to younger women

04:16:21.560 of course they're going to be.

04:16:23.700 Of course they are.

04:16:24.620 And of course

04:16:25.000 they're going to pursue that.

04:16:26.100 That's what they're attracted to.

04:16:27.760 It's kind of like how

04:16:28.700 And here I'll give you

04:16:29.200 more evidence.

04:16:30.300 When you do your makeup

04:16:31.700 or you do hair

04:16:32.580 or you get boob jobs 0.99

04:16:33.320 or you do all this

04:16:34.040 various things

04:16:34.520 is that to look older?

04:16:35.520 Raise your hand

04:16:36.340 if any of you

04:16:37.020 have ever done

04:16:37.840 any cosmetic surgeries

04:16:40.040 makeup anything

04:16:40.840 so that you look older.

04:16:43.160 Raise your hand. 0.99

04:16:45.100 Fucking exactly. 0.99

04:16:46.320 How about to look better? 0.99

04:16:47.360 Exactly.

04:16:48.080 Just not.

04:16:48.760 Okay but can I get back

04:16:49.920 to the fact that

04:16:50.740 None of you were doing it

04:16:51.520 to look older.

04:16:52.300 I was asked by a 20 year old

04:16:54.240 he wanted to be with me.

04:16:55.820 He wanted to date me.

04:16:56.740 I told him no.

04:16:57.980 Why do you keep going

04:16:58.580 to anecdotal things?

04:16:59.600 Because your whole argument

04:17:01.420 is well it happened to me.

04:17:02.860 Stop.

04:17:03.120 Well I'm basing my information

04:17:05.380 off of experience

04:17:06.260 and off of the people around me.

04:17:09.200 Off of one person's experience?

04:17:10.240 No not one person's experience.

04:17:11.960 Wait stop really quick.

04:17:12.800 Multiple people's experiences.

04:17:13.040 What were you saying?

04:17:13.980 Who?

04:17:14.440 What were you saying?

04:17:15.680 Which when?

04:17:16.280 When you were whispering

04:17:16.900 to her like literally

04:17:17.840 five seconds ago.

04:17:18.660 Oh I said these are 1.00

04:17:19.720 these are dumb arguments. 1.00

04:17:20.980 What's a dumb argument? 1.00

04:17:22.780 About the just the whole age. 0.99

04:17:25.800 One of the last things

04:17:27.120 he just said basically.

04:17:28.680 The evolutionary part

04:17:29.980 of age gaps.

04:17:30.660 looking older.

04:17:31.600 Looking older.

04:17:31.620 Looking older.

04:17:31.660 Looking older.

04:17:31.700 Looking older.

04:17:32.220 Okay.

04:17:32.520 All right.

04:17:32.940 Whatever.

04:17:33.220 Go ahead.

04:17:33.620 Okay.

04:17:34.120 So I had a 20 year old

04:17:36.100 asking me to go on dates.

04:17:37.740 He wanted to be my submissive. 0.53

04:17:39.760 He wanted to be mine. 1.00

04:17:40.800 He wanted to have sex with me. 1.00

04:17:42.040 I said no. 1.00

04:17:43.440 Sure.

04:17:43.680 Because I know that I have more power within the dynamic because of his youth, because of

04:17:50.560 his inexperience, because of the maturity levels.

04:17:53.500 I could have easily taken advantage of him and said okay well this is going to be how the

04:17:57.980 relationship will be.

04:17:58.700 These are my expectations of you.

04:18:01.100 I want you to change this about yourself and that about yourself and he would have done

04:18:04.460 so because he wanted me so badly because I'm older.

04:18:07.880 So what's wrong with that?

04:18:08.480 Wait, wait, wait.

04:18:09.040 Hold on.

04:18:10.480 So okay.

04:18:11.340 You're a dominatrix. 1.00

04:18:12.700 Is that correct?

04:18:13.540 Yes.

04:18:14.480 So you do power play in your relationships.

04:18:17.240 Yes.

04:18:17.660 Ethically.

04:18:18.280 Ethical.

04:18:19.080 Ethically.

04:18:19.500 What's unethical about 20 year old?

04:18:20.080 But a 20 year old can be in a consensual relationship with a 30 year old.

04:18:23.460 Your argument is completely self-defeating.

04:18:25.220 They can be in a consensual relationship but what I'm trying to say.

04:18:28.700 Wait, wait, wait, wait, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, I believe that

04:18:33.340 a vanilla age gap relationship, say like a 20 year old dating a 30 year old, there's 0.99

04:18:38.700 way less power dynamics going on than like a 30 year old dating a 30 year old in a fucking 0.99

04:18:43.380 dominatrix, are you kidding me? 0.99

04:18:45.360 Okay, but. 0.99

04:18:46.200 An age gap vanilla relationship is going to have way less of power plays than in the fucking 1.00

04:18:52.620 dominatrix, your whole, your whole, stop, your whole relationship structure. 0.92

04:18:56.940 So what makes one worse than another?

04:18:57.980 Your whole, stop, your whole relationship structure is a complete power play where you

04:19:03.560 hold all the power.

04:19:04.840 I understand it's consensual but you'd have to agree that an age gap relationship are

04:19:08.680 also consensual relationships. 0.99

04:19:10.520 So your argument, I mean it's just completely ridiculous. 0.96

04:19:12.580 I'm not saying that they're unconsensual. 0.82

04:19:13.940 What my point is, the point I keep trying to make is, is that there is a natural power

04:19:18.960 imbalance and that the older person within the relationship, regardless if it's vanilla

04:19:22.520 or a kinky, there can be manipulation, there can be the change. 0.99

04:19:27.720 Don't you step on dude's balls? 1.00

04:19:29.260 Who the fuck are you to say anything? 1.00

04:19:31.840 And she does never break this. 1.00

04:19:33.300 She never breaks the balls. 1.00

04:19:33.780 Here's what I think. 0.99

04:19:34.420 Here's what I think.

04:19:35.220 She keeps them very safe.

04:19:36.300 Hold on.

04:19:36.760 Also, I want to add, I do not have kinky relationships with every relationship that I have. 0.91

04:19:43.560 That's totally fine. 1.00

04:19:44.120 But you do, you are a dominatrix and you do degradation and you do all this shit. 1.00

04:19:47.280 When I'm asked to, yes. 1.00

04:19:48.380 When you're asked to.

04:19:48.960 However, here's my position on some of this kink stuff. 0.99

04:19:51.400 Now I think some kink stuff is, you might say that this, this is kink shaming. 1.00

04:19:55.060 You might say that, you know, well, it's all within the confines of consensual relationships,

04:19:59.000 blah, blah, blah.

04:19:59.340 I think some of these people who have this proclivity to certain kinks, I think some of 1.00

04:20:04.940 them are mentally ill. 0.90

04:20:06.220 So when you talk about consent, that kind of goes out the window. 1.00

04:20:09.780 Like for example, a man who wants his balls to be like smashed, that I believe is a mental 0.97

04:20:15.560 illness and I don't think consent can exist when somebody wants that degree of self-harm. 0.98

04:20:21.240 So I think you're being sadistic, not just in a kinky way, but in a almost, I think it 1.00

04:20:26.640 goes beyond even consent.

04:20:27.880 Uh, I, I think that's a crazy power dynamic and you hold all the cards when you're the

04:20:32.820 dom in that sort of kink relationship. 0.99

04:20:35.500 And so this idea that men can consent to having their balls crushed, I think that that's mental 1.00

04:20:40.340 illness. 1.00

04:20:40.760 You're taking advantage of it.

04:20:42.100 Most of these men pay you to do it.

04:20:43.440 They're asking.

04:20:44.220 She's not even asking.

04:20:45.400 Right.

04:20:46.720 I understand.

04:20:47.200 So for what, hold on.

04:20:48.120 Can I respond? 0.99

04:20:48.840 She's not manipulating them to get their balls kicked. 1.00

04:20:50.920 Can I ask you a question? 0.99

04:20:51.620 Would this go into the realm of criminality? 1.00

04:20:53.800 If a woman consensually asks me to stab her in the pussy, is that me taking, hold on. 1.00

04:20:58.760 They're stabbing their balls. 1.00

04:20:59.960 She's not stabbing their balls. 1.00

04:21:01.140 You have to say, kick me in the pussy then. 1.00

04:21:03.240 Don't make an equal. 1.00

04:21:04.920 Yeah.

04:21:05.100 Make an equal comparison.

04:21:06.400 Is there a crushing ball kink? 0.90

04:21:08.040 Yes.

04:21:08.480 Yes. 1.00

04:21:08.880 Where with a high heel, you'll crush a man's balls. 1.00

04:21:11.020 Yes. 1.00

04:21:11.640 Yeah.

04:21:11.980 So I believe this is getting into the realm of harm. 1.00

04:21:14.920 And so basically, do you think a woman could consent to me stabbing her in the vagina? 1.00

04:21:18.600 We're talking about stabbing. 1.00

04:21:19.580 Can she consent to that?

04:21:20.820 Can she consent to it?

04:21:22.920 I don't agree with it.

04:21:24.440 She can.

04:21:25.220 She can consent to that.

04:21:26.580 Right.

04:21:27.000 It's sad.

04:21:27.900 And you should have medical background to do it in a proper place.

04:21:32.220 And if she really, really, really wants to do that, then you need to figure out exactly

04:21:35.540 how to do that safely.

04:21:36.640 Go ahead and do it.

04:21:37.420 I have an easier...

04:21:38.180 How is there a safe way to respond?

04:21:39.540 Yeah, sure.

04:21:39.900 I don't know.

04:21:40.060 Ask a doctor.

04:21:40.580 It would be really great if I could actually get a word.

04:21:42.400 Yeah, go ahead. 1.00

04:21:42.420 It's about to be a doctor to say it's not safe to stab a woman in the vagina. 1.00

04:21:45.980 Let her respond. 1.00

04:21:46.420 Let her respond.

04:21:46.920 You can do things safely.

04:21:48.800 Why not?

04:21:49.160 Hang on.

04:21:49.560 Stop her lips. 0.99

04:21:50.040 Hang on.

04:21:50.460 Hang on.

04:21:50.680 Let her respond.

04:21:51.580 Safe.

04:21:52.160 Hang on.

04:21:52.600 Let her respond.

04:21:53.040 For some people, receiving pain isn't even necessarily about the pain, right?

04:21:57.620 It's about relinquishing control and having relief in that, in relinquishing that control

04:22:03.940 to the other person.

04:22:05.460 And some people can actually transmute pain into pleasure.

04:22:08.020 So, even if we're talking about a guy getting his ball smashed, he might be getting off

04:22:12.400 on that.

04:22:12.740 Okay.

04:22:13.240 Well, hang on.

04:22:13.620 Right?

04:22:13.980 Yeah.

04:22:14.440 Yeah.

04:22:14.620 I get it.

04:22:14.960 Or even have catharsis for you.

04:22:16.440 I understand exactly what you're saying.

04:22:18.740 I have a question for you, though.

04:22:20.040 How old are you?

04:22:20.900 I'm 36.

04:22:21.620 You're 36.

04:22:22.260 Okay.

04:22:22.580 And how long have you been a dominatrix? 0.55

04:22:24.200 I would say for about three and a half, four years.

04:22:27.320 Okay.

04:22:27.980 Let's say that you're 26.

04:22:31.600 You're 26 years old.

04:22:32.800 Okay.

04:22:33.020 And you're a dominatrix. 1.00

04:22:34.260 Okay.

04:22:34.720 Would you take on a client who is 50?

04:22:38.060 Yes.

04:22:38.960 What gives you the right to consent to that?

04:22:42.280 Um, I would say my profession and my education.

04:22:46.940 Okay.

04:22:47.200 So, if we're assuming that I have the same amount of education at 26.

04:22:51.040 Hang on.

04:22:51.060 So, if you have the right to consent to that relationship, why wouldn't another 26-year-old?

04:22:56.940 I never said that people aren't able to consent to age gap relationships.

04:23:00.960 I'm just saying that I find them to be inappropriate for the older person to enter into an age gap

04:23:05.800 relationship.

04:23:06.120 Right now, then, if there's a 21-year-old dominatrix who's a friend of yours, are there any?

04:23:13.040 Yeah.

04:23:13.480 Okay.

04:23:13.780 And they have a 45-year-old client who wants to be on the other end of that relationship.

04:23:21.200 Can that woman consent to him? 0.97

04:23:24.200 Yes.

04:23:24.980 Okay.

04:23:25.580 What makes that consent fine, but her consent to date him not fine?

04:23:32.320 Because when we're coming into a romantic relationship, it has a lot more emotional connections.

04:23:38.500 And it has a longer, hopefully, a long-term relationship versus maybe a, and it's not professional, right?

04:23:47.920 So, like, if I'm a professional 21-year-old and I have a 45-year-old submissive, right?

04:23:53.880 So, now you're smart enough at 21 to make a determination about professionalism?

04:23:58.220 It's following guidelines that are professional.

04:24:00.300 I get it.

04:24:00.840 There is no comparison between a relationship, like, a romantic relationship and a, yeah,

04:24:05.960 a client.

04:24:06.000 But the fact that you think that it's, that you're emotionally mature enough to make the

04:24:11.300 decision to take on a 50-year-old client as a dominatrix at 21 years old, you're informed

04:24:17.000 and have enough life experience and are smart enough to do that, but are somehow not smart 0.99

04:24:21.060 enough to date a man of the same age bracket, that, to me, is fucking bizarre. 0.93

04:24:25.220 It's not about being smart enough. 0.97

04:24:26.320 Because what you're doing is banking.

04:24:27.400 It doesn't mean that you're not smart enough to date that man.

04:24:30.280 It means that you don't want to date that man that's a client.

04:24:32.700 There's just, it's that simple.

04:24:34.380 They're a client.

04:24:34.880 And then if you take interest in an older man and you fall in love with an older man,

04:24:39.000 You're the same 21-year-old.

04:24:39.880 That dynamic is true.

04:24:41.140 There's all these facets to that relationship.

04:24:41.920 Yeah, I get it.

04:24:42.560 In this relationship, there is, it's minimal.

04:24:45.440 Yeah, but you're 21.

04:24:47.060 You're not getting, you're not reaching all of these different needs.

04:24:48.300 Also, if you're other things.

04:24:48.920 If you're 21 and you can accept a consent to a dominator, can you, at 21, consent to sleep with a 50-year-old man?

04:24:55.600 Yes.

04:24:55.920 You can, yeah. 1.00

04:24:57.060 Can you consent as a prostitute to have sex with him? 1.00

04:24:59.800 Do you see a problem with that? 1.00

04:25:00.760 That is a professional. 1.00

04:25:02.020 Consent as a prostitute to have sex with them? 1.00

04:25:03.840 That's a professional transaction. 0.99

04:25:05.420 So if they're, so the woman can consent to sleep with him, the woman can consent to sleep with him for money, 0.99

04:25:11.180 but the woman can't consent to date him. 1.00

04:25:13.020 She can consent.

04:25:13.480 Of course she can consent.

04:25:15.100 She can't consent to dating him.

04:25:16.640 But would you be against that same woman who you would say should not date this man at that age bracket sleeping with him for money?

04:25:26.220 I like age gap relationships, but I see the, but I see all of the implications with them. 1.00

04:25:31.920 I'm not saying I fully agree with her.

04:25:33.560 She doesn't fully agree with me.

04:25:34.780 I disagree with her. 0.87

04:25:35.880 Okay, well then back here, at 21 years old, should a 21-year-old prostitute accept a 50-year-old John?

04:25:43.080 If it's that, that's their profession, yes.

04:25:44.960 And I do want to add that the 21-year-old.

04:25:46.740 Of course, so they're experienced enough to do that, but not date the same 50-year-old.

04:25:50.540 Because it's way different.

04:25:52.100 This, it doesn't take much.

04:25:53.840 Well, the thing is, it's interesting, is like, when we're talking about this dynamic, we're not talking about the action itself of doing this.

04:26:02.920 We're talking about whether or not this woman is informed enough as an adult to make the decision in the first place to do this. 0.99

04:26:09.760 And my argument is, if she's not experienced enough to do this, right, or if she is experienced enough to do this, then she should be experienced enough to date whoever the fuck she wants. 0.97

04:26:22.300 You're old enough to, yeah, exactly. 0.96

04:26:24.100 That's my whole point.

04:26:25.480 So then you interjected on this, not me towards you.

04:26:28.180 I see the implications.

04:26:30.100 Yeah, exactly.

04:26:30.640 She was saying they're too young and not educated enough to consent to an older man coming on to them or not, and older men.

04:26:39.600 Building a whole life with them.

04:26:40.480 Yeah, the reason people have always, older men have always dated younger women, and to this day is still true, is that, like, statistically, 36 is the right age for a man to start getting married.

04:26:52.100 Because they're starting to make more money, like, more money than they've made before, and they're also, like, consistent and have the experience and are smart and strong, and that's, like, their peak to start making.

04:27:05.760 But, yes, they worked really hard to be 36 and have all this stuff, and now they want what they want.

04:27:10.840 And they're able to take care of a woman who can be young and be fertile and have these children for them because they've worked really hard to get these things.

04:27:20.120 And as a woman, I'm impressed by a man that has both those things, money and experience.

04:27:26.120 And then I also think, like, if a man is, if you're consenting, what about guys with vasectomies?

04:27:45.360 Yeah, I mean, okay, I get that.

04:27:46.940 Hold on, hold on.

04:27:47.540 Oh, okay, I get that, but I'm just saying for traditionally what people want and why they're doing what they're doing to get that money, I think now what I'm trying to bring it back to women is women who don't have education and don't have resources to go and educate themselves. 0.98

04:28:02.280 They do exist.

04:28:03.620 The majority of the world is mostly poor, okay, and uneducated.

04:28:08.100 Do you think they don't deserve to have a nice life with a man that takes care of them so that they don't have to double down and work hard or expose themselves to other dangers?

04:28:18.200 Or end up being prostitutes? 1.00

04:28:19.920 Shouldn't they be allowed to have the choice of a good man that wants to take care of them? 0.99

04:28:24.040 Hold on really quick here.

04:28:24.940 That's my question.

04:28:25.320 So just really quick, let me get a check from the whole panel here.

04:28:29.440 Who's against age gap relationships?

04:28:32.320 Show of hands, who's against age gap relationships? 0.88

04:28:35.600 I guess I'm the only one.

04:28:36.880 Okay.

04:28:37.080 And then we're going to...

04:28:39.180 It depends on like the length of the...

04:28:41.500 The gastron.

04:28:42.640 Let's say a 30-year-old dating a 20-year-old.

04:28:45.700 That's fine.

04:28:46.360 Okay.

04:28:46.860 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. 1.00

04:28:48.800 You have a sex slave, is that correct? 1.00

04:28:51.440 Yes. 1.00

04:28:51.780 What's the age of your sex slave? 0.99

04:28:53.040 I'd say he's like three or four years younger than me. 0.99

04:28:56.900 Hmm.

04:28:59.680 Okay.

04:29:00.980 Interesting.

04:29:01.340 Cool question.

04:29:01.620 So you're basically saying that the problem with age gap relationships,

04:29:06.100 one of them is emotional clarity and emotional maturity, right?

04:29:08.740 Or like emotional, you know, clarity.

04:29:11.320 Right.

04:29:11.520 Okay.

04:29:11.740 So you guys believe in post-nut syndrome, right?

04:29:15.760 Yeah.

04:29:16.120 Okay.

04:29:16.520 What is that?

04:29:17.220 Post-nut clarity.

04:29:18.440 Sorry.

04:29:18.920 Post-nut syndrome.

04:29:19.620 Yes.

04:29:19.900 Post-nut clarity.

04:29:20.600 Yes.

04:29:20.840 So I would venture to say that a large portion of the men that are receiving services that

04:29:28.640 are extreme, extreme services from people like dominatrixes and et cetera are usually experiencing

04:29:37.180 a form of different chemicals in their brains and different, in their brain and different

04:29:42.140 things that are causing emotional disclarity.

04:29:45.440 What would you say that?

04:29:46.960 Like what would be the opposite of clarity?

04:29:49.480 Sure.

04:29:50.000 Sure.

04:29:50.460 Emotional confusion where it's like, they're not thinking 1000% clearly.

04:29:53.500 So how are we not conflating the two where it's like, okay, we, if this one is abusing

04:29:58.420 the emotional clarity of one person, how is this one not abusing the emotional clarity

04:30:02.120 of the other?

04:30:03.160 Well, they made the decisions to do those like crazy things before they were feeling all those

04:30:07.000 things.

04:30:07.320 That was all negotiated way before the scene or built up to that.

04:30:10.860 Even if they're like, this is my goal to get my, my nuts that penetrated.

04:30:14.760 Yeah.

04:30:14.980 That's their goal.

04:30:15.800 So like they haven't had that nut from that thing yet.

04:30:18.940 The power of the male brain with the nut is absolutely insane.

04:30:23.060 And like just the thought of something happening a week, two weeks, three weeks out will absolutely

04:30:28.580 cloud a man's judgment just because they know that they're going to get this specific satisfaction

04:30:32.620 down the road.

04:30:34.740 I think that has more to do. 0.99

04:30:36.620 So the thing with kink too, and especially like even getting your balls kicked, doesn't 0.99

04:30:40.240 necessarily have to be inherently sexual. 0.99

04:30:42.700 So this doesn't need to relate. 0.99

04:30:44.340 I've had a client that loved getting his balls kicked and he did not. 0.99

04:30:48.260 So this has, most of them don't orgasm during our sessions. 0.99

04:30:53.160 In fact, it's rare that they do.

04:30:54.660 Wait, absent orgasm or absent climax, can people receive sexual stimulation or absent

04:31:02.160 climax? 0.89

04:31:02.980 Like, of course they can.

04:31:04.040 Yes.

04:31:04.440 Stimulation.

04:31:05.460 It's called edging. 0.82

04:31:06.380 But your argument is if they don't orgasm, ergo, they.

04:31:10.840 No, that's not my argument.

04:31:12.080 I'm just saying that kink is not inherently sexual.

04:31:14.540 And how is it not inherently sexual?

04:31:15.080 You literally, the words that came out of this.

04:31:16.500 Because you can have a kink scene without, sorry. 1.00

04:31:18.660 Yeah, it's just not.

04:31:19.220 The words that came out of both of your mouths is, when I do this particular kink, the men 0.99

04:31:23.260 don't orgasm. 0.97

04:31:24.280 Therefore, it's not sexual gratification. 0.73

04:31:26.620 So?

04:31:28.960 I'm just, what do you mean?

04:31:30.700 I'm sorry.

04:31:31.180 I'm confused.

04:31:32.060 I'm just saying it has nothing to do with, I'm confused with the post-nut clarity.

04:31:35.540 I'm just confused.

04:31:36.400 So the idea is just this.

04:31:37.480 Post-nut clarity thing.

04:31:38.760 I kind of understand.

04:31:39.320 This doesn't all have to do with their nut.

04:31:40.720 I understand.

04:31:41.320 I can reduce it super quick.

04:31:43.300 She's just saying that men who have not climaxed have different hormones raging in their brain,

04:31:50.620 which can cause them to make decisions they would not make if it was the case that those

04:31:55.420 same hormones are not raging in their brain after sex.

04:31:58.720 Yeah.

04:31:59.060 So can they climax and then make the decision?

04:32:01.320 I'm so confused.

04:32:01.820 Well, no.

04:32:02.260 So she's just saying, how's it not taking advantage of them if it's the case they may make different

04:32:06.760 decisions if they didn't have those chemicals raging? 0.95

04:32:09.580 Like, shouldn't they have to jerk off or something first before they agree to the contract? 0.91

04:32:13.180 That's totally right. 0.98

04:32:13.740 Before they agree with the contract?

04:32:15.100 They usually do.

04:32:15.740 They're usually messaging with us while we go over this.

04:32:18.360 I'm not saying it's a good argument.

04:32:19.640 While we go over this negotiation, they're usually messaging with us, talking to us.

04:32:23.000 I'm just saying that it's not. 1.00

04:32:23.500 And generally, they are fucking jerking off. 1.00

04:32:25.920 It's not emotional. 1.00

04:32:26.740 And they are.

04:32:27.360 It's not abuse.

04:32:28.000 Look at that.

04:32:28.460 I have a TTS coming through.

04:32:30.780 Thomas donated $200.

04:32:33.740 Question for the table.

04:32:35.560 Should a 40-year-old be allowed to purchase 18-year-olds of content?

04:32:40.300 If yes, why can't they be in a relationship?

04:32:44.900 Yes, they should.

04:32:46.380 That's their choice as long as they're providing content.

04:32:48.520 Watching online content has nothing to do with building a life with someone.

04:32:54.880 It's a huge difference.

04:32:56.360 What if you don't want to build a life?

04:32:58.240 You just want to date them for fun?

04:32:59.420 Okay, same thing.

04:33:00.800 You're still implicating yourself.

04:33:02.480 You're still putting these two lives together.

04:33:05.000 And for the woman who's actually against the age gap relationships for you, what would you prefer to see for an 18-year-old woman? 1.00

04:33:12.760 For her to, in her sexual empowerment, to be a sex worker and the men who are procuring her services, say they are in their 30s or 40s or 50s, or for her to be in a loving, monogamous relationship with a man who's 10 or 15 years older than her?

04:33:32.060 Which of the two would you prefer to see?

04:33:35.680 Or is less predatory?

04:33:37.940 I think that the sex worker would be in a less predatory situation, but I don't necessarily believe that all 18-year-olds should be sex workers.

04:33:47.220 That's not what I'm asking.

04:33:48.220 Well, I know, but that question is kind of unfair to my ideology and what I believe.

04:33:53.000 Okay, well, let me rephrase it a different way.

04:33:56.200 Let's say that you had a best friend that you grew up with, and she hits 18, and she's told you her whole life all she wants to do is be a stay-at-home mom.

04:34:06.460 That's it.

04:34:07.460 She wants to start having kids. 1.00

04:34:09.100 The second she can, she's done with high school. 1.00

04:34:11.060 That's her fucking dream, man. 1.00

04:34:13.380 Okay. 1.00

04:34:13.780 You live in a small town, okay? 1.00

04:34:16.320 And she's like, she's coming to you for advice, and she sits down with you, and she's like, look, I've looked around, and all the guys who are around my same age, they're all fucking fuckboys. 1.00

04:34:26.340 They're just out there having sex with everyone. 1.00

04:34:29.320 They don't want to settle down, right? 1.00

04:34:31.260 What a bunch of fuckers. 1.00

04:34:32.940 They don't have any jobs, really, and they have no real prospects, but Chuck, Chuck over there is 31, and he's handsome. 1.00

04:34:41.940 And he wants a wife, and he wants to give me my babies, and he's going to take care of me forever, right?

04:34:50.000 What do you think?

04:34:51.080 What would you advise her to do?

04:34:52.360 Hang on. 1.00

04:34:52.920 Would you advise her to, A, fuck your dream, hook up with the fuckboys, right? 1.00

04:34:58.800 Or would you advise her, you know what? 1.00

04:35:00.860 You should probably marry Chuck if that's what your dream is. 1.00

04:35:03.880 I wouldn't advise her to play with the fuckboys. 1.00

04:35:07.020 Of course not. 0.98

04:35:07.340 I don't think that's going to bring her any kind of joy or happiness, but I wouldn't be encouraging her to get married right away either.

04:35:13.960 No, but that's what she wants.

04:35:15.040 That's her dream.

04:35:15.940 That's all she's wanted.

04:35:16.660 I would advise, if she was my friend, I would advise her, like, date this man for at least a couple years before you get engaged.

04:35:21.820 So, therefore, date older man, much older man.

04:35:26.120 So, therefore, age gap gone.

04:35:27.500 But again, for me...

04:35:28.900 So, hang on.

04:35:29.400 So, you would advise her to date the much older man, yeah?

04:35:33.640 Yes.

04:35:34.160 Okay.

04:35:34.360 But, again, back to my, like, the original reason I am against age gap relationships isn't necessarily in the power, laying the choice and the power of the younger person.

04:35:45.960 I believe it's the responsibility of the older person to not date somebody inappropriately younger than I am.

04:35:51.940 Yeah, but hang on.

04:35:52.520 Do you see the problem, though?

04:35:53.840 So, if you're giving her the advice to date him, right, then you're basically ceding to the fact that the reason she wants to is because he's more powerful, more wise, has more money, is more established, is all of those things that she's looking for in order to have a family at that young of an age.

04:36:10.760 So, if you're advising her to do that, you're ceding that she needs to be in a dynamic where the more powerful guy has all the leverage in order to achieve what she wants.

04:36:19.120 You gave me two choices.

04:36:20.320 Yes, that's correct.

04:36:21.140 If I actually had a choice in the matter, I would advise her to just wait.

04:36:25.560 I would say wait.

04:36:26.720 I would say, you know.

04:36:27.660 So, wait.

04:36:28.120 So, crush your dreams.

04:36:29.000 You're going to crush your best friend's dreams.

04:36:30.420 No, you don't have to crush your dreams.

04:36:30.880 Dating is waiting.

04:36:31.240 Not all men are what you described as well.

04:36:34.140 Dating is waiting.

04:36:34.760 Just in her local area, they are.

04:36:36.980 Oh, but that's not, like, true to real life.

04:36:39.940 No, yeah.

04:36:40.580 That's real true to real life.

04:36:42.040 There's not one.

04:36:43.340 In the local area, let's say the local area, it's like population 6,000.

04:36:47.660 My older men and my more mature, kind ones were the ones that ended up being closer to me.

04:36:51.560 Were you in a massive city?

04:36:54.860 Yeah, probably.

04:36:56.040 Define massive.

04:36:56.840 Big urban, a big sprawling urban population somewhere.

04:37:02.280 Yeah, I live in San Diego. 1.00

04:37:03.560 Okay, huge, massive fucking city, San Diego. 0.99

04:37:06.340 So, the thing is, it's like, if you're talking about population 7,000. 0.99

04:37:09.960 You can also leave your town and not just settle.

04:37:12.140 True, but perhaps you have other responsibilities in your town.

04:37:15.620 Perhaps mom is sick, or perhaps you don't want to move away from your family.

04:37:18.840 Perhaps you love the small town life.

04:37:20.760 You just want to have some babies, right? 0.99

04:37:22.900 Yeah, isn't she a loser for wanting those? 1.00

04:37:24.640 Is she some kind of piece of shit for wanting that? 1.00

04:37:26.760 What a boring, of course not. 1.00

04:37:28.640 Of course not. 0.99

04:37:29.200 And if she marries this guy and starts having the babies, what the fuck did she do wrong? 1.00

04:37:33.780 I think she's at a higher risk of being taken advantage of or manipulated or abused. 0.98

04:37:38.400 That is my main argument with age gap relationships. 0.98

04:37:40.840 This to me feels backwards, because it would seem to me that if she was out partying with the fuckboys, 0.84

04:37:44.940 her chances of getting S-A'd, her chances of getting- 0.90

04:37:48.380 But I'm not arguing for that either.

04:37:49.540 Yeah, but- 1.00

04:37:49.880 I'm not arguing for her to go fuck the fuckboys. 1.00

04:37:51.620 But here's the thing. 1.00

04:37:52.320 If she's dating people around her own age, and they're fuckboys, because most people, 0.98

04:37:57.300 most men- 0.97

04:37:57.880 I mean, you're assuming that.

04:37:58.960 Are you saying right now that most men in their 18 to 20s are not playing the field a bit?

04:38:04.800 Yeah, sure.

04:38:05.280 They're playing the field, but I'm not going to categorize 18 to 25-year-olds. 0.97

04:38:08.740 It's fuckboys, because there's plenty of people that age. 1.00

04:38:11.300 I do have to move on. 0.99

04:38:12.340 I do have to move on.

04:38:12.980 I do have to move on.

04:38:13.080 I do have to play in the field.

04:38:14.320 That's the point.

04:38:15.520 Guys, really quick.

04:38:16.360 I- we're going to do a- like a- not an intermission, but I ordered pizza, so I'm going to give

04:38:22.760 pizza to the guests, and what I'm going to do, though, for this is we're going to do- lower

04:38:28.980 the TTS, so you guys, while everybody's eating, you know, you guys can send in some roasts

04:38:34.360 if you want, if you want to roast.

04:38:35.960 The TTS has been temporarily lowered.

04:38:38.040 It's going to go back up after the pizza break.

04:38:40.380 I also want to just, you know, let a lot of people recharge a little bit, have a bit of

04:38:44.320 food, get some food in them.

04:38:45.400 Uh, so we're going to give them pizza.

04:38:46.740 Just, uh, who wants some pizza?

04:38:49.400 Do you want- do you want pizza?

04:38:50.980 Miss leave- miss who is leaving the table? 0.98

04:38:52.960 Is it now or never?

04:38:53.480 Do you want pizza?

04:38:54.860 Yes, please.

04:38:55.520 Okay, yes.

04:38:56.580 I don't want pizza right now.

04:38:57.680 Is it now or never?

04:38:57.920 Pizza.

04:38:58.180 There might be some later.

04:38:59.260 She wants some. 0.58

04:39:00.060 I'm okay at the moment.

04:39:00.960 Uh, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, well, sorry, no, we're on my bed.

04:39:07.380 Uh, wait, so that was nine?

04:39:08.780 Was that nine?

04:39:09.880 I believe that was nine.

04:39:11.320 Okay, so we'll get the pizza going here.

04:39:13.160 Guys, so get in a TTS.

04:39:14.720 Um, I'll be right back.

04:39:17.000 Andrew, if you want to take it away for, for a little moment while I get that.

04:39:19.940 Wait, can I respond to a comment that popped up on the TV?

04:39:22.620 No.

04:39:23.200 No?

04:39:23.540 Okay.

04:39:24.220 Okay.

04:39:24.620 Yeah, go ahead.

04:39:27.140 Okay, so, um, my only other thing to you is, um, about the age gap is if men were only

04:39:34.640 attracted to older, financially stable, educated women, how many people would be on this earth? 1.00

04:39:41.300 And then second of all, who would buy your OnlyFans if that was their requirement for

04:39:45.960 attraction?

04:39:46.520 Okay, again, I'm not advocating for men to, like, marry older women or something like that.

04:39:52.100 It's, again, my main gripe with age gap relationships is when an older person, regardless of their 1.00

04:39:59.700 gender, dates somebody, you know, 15 years plus younger than them.

04:40:03.900 Um, that's my, that's my, like, gripe with it because there is a natural power imbalance and

04:40:11.200 that, and when you get into, like, a marriage, um, there can be a lot of abuse, both mentally,

04:40:18.740 emotionally, physically.

04:40:19.740 I am on a lot of stuff.

04:40:21.080 I'm on, I've been on Reddit for, like, over 15 years.

04:40:23.480 Yeah, that's your first problem.

04:40:24.740 No, but Reddit has a lot of different subreddits, right?

04:40:28.280 Oh, God.

04:40:28.680 I'm on, I'm on Chrome. 1.00

04:40:29.180 Yeah, and they're mostly full of fucking crazy lunatics who make shit up. 1.00

04:40:32.880 And they don't go outside. 1.00

04:40:33.780 No, there's actually a lot of, a varied amount of people.

04:40:36.940 There's red pill people, there's liberal people, there's, like, nobody right there. 0.99

04:40:39.940 And there's people making shit up all the time. 0.99

04:40:42.760 Okay, and a lot of those, and a lot of the made-up stories get called out in the comments 0.99

04:40:46.920 because you can kind of, there's tells that you can find when there's made-up stories.

04:40:50.660 I think I, we would all, like, love your point more if your point also included sex workers.

04:40:56.780 You're, like, Redditor 2384 who's, like, hey.

04:40:59.860 I'm speaking on everyone.

04:41:00.900 It's, like, Redditor 1846 who's, like, hey, age gap relationships are bad.

04:41:05.840 If a woman is 21 and she's a sex worker, she could consent to having a 50-year-old client.

04:41:11.840 But we're not talking about a romantic relationship.

04:41:13.940 I'm talking about age gap relationships with romance.

04:41:16.900 A sexual and or romantic relationship, they're still being chivalrous to you.

04:41:22.080 They're still being men.

04:41:23.380 You're still, you're exposing your body to them.

04:41:25.200 You are putting yourself into a, no, you are put, I'm not saying romantic. 0.85

04:41:31.140 I know your sex work isn't romantic, dude.

04:41:33.280 What I'm trying to say is you are, regardless, still putting yourself into a vulnerable position

04:41:40.340 in front of these older men. 0.96

04:41:42.400 It doesn't matter that you're a sex worker. 0.88

04:41:44.540 It doesn't make you smarter. 0.98

04:41:45.980 It didn't build your brain.

04:41:47.400 It didn't turn you 25.

04:41:48.680 That man is still taking advantage of you under these guidelines of age.

04:41:53.040 Nuh-uh, there's special sex worker pixie dust that they sprinkle on a 22-year-old. 0.98

04:41:57.600 I'm sorry.

04:41:57.880 It just doesn't mean you're better than anyone else. 0.64

04:41:58.840 They're like, here's some sex worker pixie dust.

04:42:00.880 The interaction and the complication of that relationship is going from this, zero, there's

04:42:07.940 like so little complication in a professional interaction like that, which in some cases

04:42:14.660 is zero interaction because they're just buying a video online.

04:42:18.220 Yeah, but you're missing.

04:42:19.000 So that's not affecting you other than your wallet.

04:42:20.460 That's the point that you're missing, though.

04:42:21.940 Being in a real relationship affects you every single person.

04:42:25.440 The point, yeah.

04:42:25.460 Yes.

04:42:25.720 So they're coming back to the 21 and 45-year-old.

04:42:27.540 You're missing it.

04:42:28.560 You're missing it, though.

04:42:29.380 I'm missing it.

04:42:29.820 Here, I'll show you. 0.97

04:42:31.100 Well, her argument is at 22 if you're a prostitute, there's not, hang on, there's not sex worker 1.00

04:42:37.540 pixie dust that's just sprinkled on you that suddenly makes you super competent in even 0.97

04:42:43.020 having chosen to be a sex worker to begin with. 1.00

04:42:45.840 How can you be competent enough to choose what man's penis gets to enter you for money, but 1.00

04:42:51.640 you're not competent to change on, but you're not competent enough to choose which one can 1.00

04:42:55.840 take you out to fucking dinner? 1.00

04:42:58.020 That's insane to me. 1.00

04:42:59.220 That's literally fucking crazy. 0.99

04:43:00.340 It's not taking out to dinner. 0.99

04:43:01.160 It's forming a whole relationship.

04:43:03.820 It's crazy to trust a man that you just met over a man that you've been dating for a long

04:43:08.440 time.

04:43:08.840 We don't trust them.

04:43:11.220 What's the difference?

04:43:11.960 We don't trust them.

04:43:12.340 We don't trust them, and we get that, but you guys keep going.

04:43:15.100 We build trust over time.

04:43:15.920 Okay, so does a relationship, does that too?

04:43:18.240 That's building a relationship. 0.92

04:43:19.180 And it's also a relationship that turned around and fucked my life up.

04:43:23.120 A friendship is a relationship. 0.77

04:43:23.680 I also want to clarify, because when we're talking about the 21-year-old sex worker and

04:43:28.420 the 45-year-old man, are we talking about a dom?

04:43:30.920 Are we talking about an OnlyFans model?

04:43:31.860 We're just talking about a guy who's paying a chick money to sleep with her.

04:43:35.060 Can I finish my sentence? 0.98

04:43:36.260 Or are we talking about a professional, a prostitute? 1.00

04:43:41.800 Let's just say a hooker. 1.00

04:43:42.200 Because those are all very different things. 1.00

04:43:43.320 Let's just say a hooker. 1.00

04:43:44.740 Okay, so the hooker is having, what, one sexual experience with this 45-year-old man, and 0.99

04:43:50.840 then he leaves her life? 0.99

04:43:51.660 Oh, no, no.

04:43:52.040 She has routine sexual experiences with it, because he really likes it.

04:43:54.520 Okay, so we're talking about a regular client, or he's a random man that you should not

04:43:59.300 trust.

04:44:00.160 That's spending at least, what, maybe two hours max with her?

04:44:03.860 Two to three hours a week?

04:44:04.980 If you're a provider, you are in control of that scenario with that older man, you are 0.99

04:44:08.660 the one in control.

04:44:09.860 Yes.

04:44:10.040 So that control and balance gets completely swapped.

04:44:12.520 Shifted.

04:44:12.960 But you're looking at it backwards.

04:44:14.220 So again, let me give you the argument.

04:44:16.280 The argument is not whether or not this 45-year-old, you're seeing him less than if you were dating

04:44:21.700 him.

04:44:22.000 The argument is, how are you at 21 or 22?

04:44:26.020 How do I assume that you have the capacity to let a 45-year-old man come and give you 0.99

04:44:32.080 hundreds of dollars to fuck you, but I don't think you have the capacity to choose to date 1.00

04:44:37.500 him. 1.00

04:44:38.180 That is mind-bogglingly fucking crazy to me. 0.99

04:44:40.880 You have the capacity to choose to date him. 0.99

04:44:42.240 Exactly.

04:44:42.500 Again, I'm going to repeat myself, for the fifth time, it is in the responsibility of

04:44:47.160 the older person, regardless of their gender, to not date somebody inappropriately younger

04:44:53.060 than them.

04:44:53.800 You keep putting the power back and the choice back into the younger person. 0.72

04:44:57.840 But I don't think that it's up to the younger person to be like, oh, am I immature enough

04:45:01.760 to date this person? 0.99

04:45:02.080 Is there anything wrong with that 45-year-old man fucking that 22-year-old? 1.00

04:45:07.040 That's a professional. 0.99

04:45:08.660 Even if it wasn't professional.

04:45:09.880 Are you talking about professionally or not professionally?

04:45:12.440 Is there anything wrong with it? 0.98

04:45:13.620 There might be some shit wrong with it. 0.94

04:45:15.180 Do you think there's any emotional connection even between that? 0.97

04:45:17.920 Yeah.

04:45:18.100 We're not disputing that.

04:45:19.880 What is it?

04:45:20.680 She may not be at that professional level to be making that choice. 0.93

04:45:26.020 So we're back to magical hooker pixie dust. 0.86

04:45:28.180 But she's there. 0.96

04:45:28.880 She's there. 0.97

04:45:29.200 We just keep on going back to magical hooker pixie dust.

04:45:31.420 It's not magical pixie dust.

04:45:32.000 And that might implicate her. 0.99

04:45:33.320 And that might cause some shit to go down. 0.99

04:45:36.160 But that's also life. 0.99

04:45:37.500 And she will learn from that situation.

04:45:39.480 I think you can have boundaries in your sex work.

04:45:41.740 She can learn from an age gap relationship.

04:45:43.060 Yeah.

04:45:43.360 And again, there's nothing...

04:45:44.300 They can be respected.

04:45:45.040 Nothing wrong with that.

04:45:45.980 Exactly.

04:45:46.380 I didn't...

04:45:47.100 Yes.

04:45:47.920 But you also have boundaries in relationships.

04:45:51.240 Yes.

04:45:51.440 And people...

04:45:51.880 I can at least accept that.

04:45:52.820 I can have a consent to that.

04:45:53.540 I can at least accept that.

04:45:54.720 When you say...

04:45:55.920 When you caveat it and say, there could be something wrong with it.

04:45:59.140 Yeah.

04:45:59.660 Sure.

04:46:00.580 I'm always willing to take the caveat that some age gap relationships are going to be bad.

04:46:05.320 I just want that caveat to extend to all relationships.

04:46:09.420 It does.

04:46:09.940 Yeah.

04:46:10.140 Exactly.

04:46:10.540 So there's nothing inherently about the age gap that's bad.

04:46:13.760 That's the point.

04:46:15.600 I wasn't against the age gap.

04:46:16.820 I know.

04:46:17.440 Which is why I wasn't arguing with you.

04:46:18.920 But there are certain things...

04:46:19.360 You kept jumping in to argue with me.

04:46:20.740 No, because there are certain things that I do agree with her point.

04:46:24.060 I'm just not anti-age gap.

04:46:25.640 Right.

04:46:26.220 Like, as a whole.

04:46:27.060 For those reasons.

04:46:28.040 Which makes sense.

04:46:30.660 I mean, not exactly.

04:46:32.780 I just think that we have a free choice.

04:46:35.240 And whether or not it ends up panning out well for us is another story.

04:46:39.180 Agreed.

04:46:42.200 I agree with that.

04:46:43.200 Cool. 1.00

04:46:43.880 Fuck yeah. 1.00

04:46:44.480 There was never any disagreement on that. 1.00

04:46:46.460 No.

04:46:46.840 Yeah.

04:46:46.980 The disagreement was only on this side.

04:46:49.020 I do also want to add that as a femdom, if you're a 21-year-old femdom, it's not like

04:46:56.240 you just decide one day, I'm a pro now.

04:46:58.180 I'm going to have all these sessions.

04:46:59.860 No.

04:47:00.140 It's something that you do have to educate yourself on.

04:47:03.760 You do have to have some experience.

04:47:06.280 Otherwise, you are potentially putting someone in danger.

04:47:11.260 Okay.

04:47:11.660 But isn't it the case that that would be the same thing with dating?

04:47:16.980 I bet you're going to need experience.

04:47:19.320 And experience over time is going to lead you to making better choices.

04:47:23.480 Okay.

04:47:23.900 Which is exactly why I'm against age gap relationships. 0.98

04:47:26.320 Because of the experience.

04:47:27.720 Yeah.

04:47:28.060 But the thing is, it's like a 30-year-old man can have as little dating experience as a

04:47:33.900 22-year-old woman.

04:47:35.220 True.

04:47:36.160 That's possible.

04:47:37.300 So, you know, like to me, it's so silly because you're not actually saying there's a

04:47:41.160 problem with the age gap.

04:47:42.400 You just look at other contributing factors which could be present in any relationship

04:47:47.500 and then pointing to it as though in an age gap, that's assured.

04:47:51.660 It is.

04:47:52.240 It's not.

04:47:53.120 It is.

04:47:54.020 What thing is assured in an age gap no matter what that would not be...

04:47:59.080 At the older person...

04:47:59.400 Hang on, hang on.

04:47:59.940 Stop, stop.

04:48:00.540 Okay.

04:48:00.780 What would be assured in an age gap no matter what that would not be assured by people 0.98

04:48:06.620 who, you know, are the same exact age, in fact, who are dating?

04:48:10.940 What would be assured?

04:48:12.520 Wait.

04:48:12.900 I'm sorry.

04:48:13.340 What would be a thing where this person's 15 years older, so it's 100% certain that it

04:48:19.680 will be this way that will not be present in a same age relationship?

04:48:26.220 Probably income?

04:48:27.360 Not probably.

04:48:28.300 What will be?

04:48:29.340 Emotional maturity?

04:48:30.500 Income and emotional maturity?

04:48:31.840 Neither of those things are assured in an age gap relationship, are they?

04:48:34.820 You naturally have more negative and positive life experiences as an older person that you

04:48:41.560 learn from.

04:48:42.260 But that doesn't mean you're more experienced.

04:48:43.900 And so this is the problem, right?

04:48:45.600 It's like, you cannot assure me that in an age gap relationship, those factors will not

04:48:51.180 be there any more than you can assure me they will be there in a same age relationship.

04:48:54.920 So it's always pointing to, if these factors are there, it's bad.

04:48:58.940 I would just argue back, sure.

04:49:01.000 But if they're there for same age, it's also bad, right? 0.98

04:49:04.380 Sure, but it's worse in an age gap.

04:49:06.360 All right, let's maybe involve some other people here.

04:49:08.620 And only one chat came through, so it looks like.

04:49:11.120 Crusader Joe donated $100.

04:49:13.100 So we're back to $200 now.

04:49:14.220 These girls want to have their cake and eat it too. 1.00

04:49:16.480 Freedom to sell sex slash vote slash et cetera.

04:49:19.680 But force men away from younger women unruined by sex work and feminism. 0.74

04:49:24.120 Thank you, Crusader Joe.

04:49:24.800 They're just eating their own.

04:49:26.060 I appreciate it.

04:49:28.060 Based Raw Diet Girl helping out with the Chloe chimped out. 1.00

04:49:36.840 Or sorry, roached out.

04:49:39.040 So we have Based Raw Diet Girl helping out. 1.00

04:49:43.140 All right.

04:49:43.800 Thank you, Just a Guy.

04:49:45.020 I appreciate it for that.

04:49:47.000 Here we have some super chats I'm going to pull up.

04:49:49.020 So who wants to, you know what, Kayla Void, let me have you read for us.

04:49:55.720 Okay.

04:49:57.000 The word gender comes from the Latin to determine by type, specifically those that can give birth

04:50:04.140 and those that can't.

04:50:05.200 The word woman is simply a, what does that say?

04:50:10.340 Hyponym.

04:50:10.960 Hyponym.

04:50:11.920 For an adult female, it has nothing to do with identity. 0.99

04:50:14.380 All right.

04:50:17.060 Part RSD.

04:50:18.360 I very much appreciate your super chat there.

04:50:21.100 Thank you.

04:50:21.760 Let me have you read this one, too.

04:50:23.200 Okay.

04:50:23.860 I am 35 years old, and I match with a girl on Tinder that is 21 and has a three-year-old kid.

04:50:30.160 So I shouldn't date this woman because of this 14-year age gap. 1.00

04:50:36.180 She can raise a child, but forming a relationship that would be good for it is bad.

04:50:40.980 Big fan, Andrew, and love you, Anya.

04:50:43.400 Is that how you say it?

04:50:44.760 Okay.

04:50:48.020 All right.

04:50:48.740 Thank you, No Life, for that.

04:50:51.580 All right.

04:50:52.100 And we do have, I'll let this one come through as the final one.

04:50:55.560 Courtney's husband donated $100.

04:50:58.020 Who's Courtney?

04:50:58.700 Shout out to my beautiful wife. 1.00

04:51:01.220 Notice the quiet and respectful one is the only happily married woman at the table. 1.00

04:51:07.220 My girl.

04:51:09.340 You're so funny.

04:51:10.300 All right.

04:51:12.400 Thank you for that message.

04:51:14.200 Appreciate it.

04:51:14.520 Guys, we're bumping up the TTS back to 200.

04:51:17.800 If any trickle in within the next two or three minutes, we will get it.

04:51:21.160 But TTS has been bumped back up to 200.

04:51:24.460 Can you read, let's have you read this one.

04:51:27.980 Miss TP USA.

04:51:29.080 Oh, she's not at the table.

04:51:30.320 She's been on her phone for the past 30 minutes.

04:51:32.040 Do you read that?

04:51:33.320 Mm-hmm.

04:51:34.160 What's up?

04:51:35.080 What's up, guys?

04:51:36.640 You get to read this one.

04:51:38.260 Miss TP USA.

04:51:40.000 Even though, altogether, you're too good to be at the table.

04:51:44.440 You kept saying Andrew is coming from a religious standpoint.

04:51:48.680 Why don't you?

04:51:49.320 Is it because you're proud of your clean divorce?

04:51:52.580 Did Charlie fire you?

04:51:53.980 No.

04:51:54.260 So Charlie did not fire me.

04:51:57.460 He unfortunately passed away before I left the organization to focus on messaging to Latino

04:52:05.720 conservatives because I speak Spanish.

04:52:07.860 And so it was an area I really wanted to focus my efforts on.

04:52:13.080 So that's why I left.

04:52:15.240 And I don't argue from a religious standpoint because there are people that are listening

04:52:22.660 that aren't religious, and I'm trying to make my point using logic, and you can't do that

04:52:28.460 if, you know, you are coming from a religious perspective and the other person isn't.

04:52:33.240 And no, I don't believe I'm too good to be here.

04:52:35.840 I am very happy to be here and to have the opportunity to be here with the rest of the

04:52:40.260 girls, and I do hope that I get invited back, like promised.

04:52:44.700 So, yeah, I'm excited for that.

04:52:47.000 We're down.

04:52:48.120 Cheers.

04:52:49.480 We're down to have you back.

04:52:50.860 I'll give you props for that because I've been a little sassy tonight, so good for you.

04:52:56.400 Good for you.

04:52:57.880 Some people can't handle it.

04:52:59.440 All right.

04:52:59.820 So, no, but I think, you know, all frustrations, albeit minor aside, I think you and Andrew

04:53:08.000 would actually have a really interesting debate.

04:53:09.800 I think so.

04:53:10.580 A really interesting debate.

04:53:11.620 We don't disagree on everything.

04:53:13.840 You know, I stayed pretty quiet on this last bit because, you know, I don't disagree.

04:53:18.320 I think age gap relationships are fine for the most part unless they're too wide. 0.98

04:53:22.900 But so, yeah.

04:53:25.240 And I, you know, I'm here, too, because I think the timing lined up so great.

04:53:29.920 I was in California these last two days for work.

04:53:33.800 We had an investor summit these last two days.

04:53:37.040 And I'm like, you know what?

04:53:37.600 Oh, my God, who the hell came?

04:53:39.200 Whoa, Nathan, Nathan, why did you press that, Nathan?

04:53:42.940 She's in the middle of this really important disclosure to us.

04:53:47.020 She was here in California, Nathan.

04:53:48.520 Yeah, I love the state.

04:53:49.900 My producer, my producers.

04:53:52.840 Love the state.

04:53:54.000 It's beautiful.

04:53:54.720 I think it's the most geographically blessed state in the country.

04:53:58.220 Outside of Hawaii.

04:54:01.040 Hawaii's pretty good.

04:54:01.840 Hawaii's pretty good.

04:54:02.840 And then out of that, maybe South Florida, too, has similar surroundings.

04:54:06.220 True.

04:54:06.720 We have a TTS coming through.

04:54:08.500 Oh, no, sorry.

04:54:09.480 That's not a TTS.

04:54:10.260 Below the threshold.

04:54:11.020 Disregard that.

04:54:12.000 Thank you, though, Paul, for your message.

04:54:14.100 Josh, thank you for your merch purchase.

04:54:15.540 Appreciate it.

04:54:16.040 Thank you, Josh.

04:54:17.520 Here's what we're going to do.

04:54:19.920 Quick question.

04:54:20.560 I heard you say you do outreach to, like, Latino voters.

04:54:26.860 Is that correct?

04:54:27.520 Yes.

04:54:27.680 Were you born in the USA?

04:54:29.740 I was born in the U.S.

04:54:30.820 My parents came from Cuba.

04:54:32.340 My dad was a political prisoner.

04:54:33.960 That's why he was able to legally apply for a visa to come to this country, and he has

04:54:38.800 never been back since because he considers himself a political refugee.

04:54:43.320 Do you feel like you have any roots to Cuba or not really?

04:54:47.220 Aside from, like, the culture, heritage, but...

04:54:49.120 Well, I grew up in a city called Hialeah, which is a city...

04:54:52.960 In Hawaii?

04:54:53.540 No.

04:54:53.860 Oh, no, in Florida.

04:54:54.720 Hialeah, which is a city...

04:54:55.360 Yeah, Hialeah, Florida.

04:54:56.440 Yes, which is inside of Miami-Dade County, and it's the city with the highest amount

04:55:00.400 of Cubans outside of Cuba anywhere.

04:55:02.540 So I basically grew up in Cuba with freedom and have always lived in Miami-Dade County,

04:55:07.980 and I'm pretty proud of it.

04:55:09.880 Love it.

04:55:10.460 It's my hometown.

04:55:11.660 I wouldn't leave, but this is a good spot to visit.

04:55:14.900 Yeah.

04:55:15.360 Well, I don't know if this following question will apply to you, but this is a question

04:55:18.080 I've posed to other panels.

04:55:19.600 Is anybody here...

04:55:20.900 Was anybody here not born in the USA?

04:55:22.740 Okay, where were you born?

04:55:25.780 I'm from Canada.

04:55:26.760 A little closer.

04:55:27.580 I'm from Canada.

04:55:28.520 Okay, but you're Canadian.

04:55:29.860 Yes.

04:55:30.040 You're visiting here.

04:55:30.640 Okay, this question would not apply to you, then.

04:55:32.900 Anybody...

04:55:33.780 Parents...

04:55:34.860 Their parents were immigrated here, born in another country.

04:55:39.380 Okay.

04:55:39.820 Cuba, for you, what about you?

04:55:41.200 Belarus.

04:55:41.940 Belarus.

04:55:42.820 Lebanon.

04:55:43.400 Lebanon.

04:55:43.880 Okay.

04:55:44.260 Do you feel roots to Lebanon or not really?

04:55:46.740 Yes, I do.

04:55:48.140 Okay.

04:55:48.340 Only because I've been there multiple times throughout my childhood.

04:55:52.360 In adulthood.

04:55:53.540 Okay.

04:55:54.420 So, question.

04:55:55.720 And then, I don't know if you have any affinity towards Israel because you are Jewish.

04:56:01.300 Is that correct?

04:56:02.080 I am pro-Israel.

04:56:03.540 Okay.

04:56:03.820 Into the mouth, please.

04:56:04.540 I am pro-Israel.

04:56:05.220 Okay.

04:56:05.380 Yes.

04:56:06.140 So, this is...

04:56:06.860 And I'll be there in a few weeks, actually.

04:56:08.220 Okay.

04:56:08.500 This is a hypothetical question I like to pose somewhat related to this topic.

04:56:14.280 Hold on.

04:56:14.560 Let me pull up the precise wording here because I don't want to mess it up.

04:56:18.580 Okay.

04:56:19.040 So, in a morally neutral, and this is going to be directed just to, I think, two or three

04:56:23.660 of you.

04:56:24.220 In a morally neutral, blame-free hypothetical conflict between the U.S. and the country of

04:56:30.260 your parents' origin, or perhaps to a country in which you have some degree of affinity to,

04:56:35.580 where neither side is right or wrong, to which country is your allegiance?

04:56:38.820 So, in your case, if the United States were to go to war with Israel, under the hypothetical

04:56:45.160 scenario that I described, would you feel allegiance to Israel or to the United States?

04:56:54.180 It depends on the reason for the war.

04:56:56.620 Well, so, yeah.

04:56:57.920 So, it's a morally neutral, blame-free hypothetical conflict.

04:57:01.780 Okay.

04:57:02.040 If it was completely morally neutral, I would stand with the United States.

04:57:13.080 Okay.

04:57:13.580 I see.

04:57:15.740 And then your Lebanon, same question.

04:57:19.760 United States and Lebanon are in a morally neutral, blame-free hypothetical conflict.

04:57:25.200 To which country is your allegiance?

04:57:26.640 I would stay with the United States. 0.99

04:57:27.940 Okay.

04:57:28.220 And then, I guess, Belarus for you?

04:57:30.000 United States.

04:57:30.500 United States.

04:57:30.960 Okay.

04:57:31.260 Just curious.

04:57:31.940 Just curious there.

04:57:32.980 This is below the threshold, but I...

04:57:35.100 Oh, I'll let it come through because...

04:57:37.220 I accidentally let it set up.

04:57:40.180 Chair 2, please describe the dating scene in NM since you're repping the Z symbol on your

04:57:44.740 arm.

04:57:45.580 Thank you.

04:57:46.460 That's for you.

04:57:48.680 Most of the people that I know in New Mexico usually date from middle school to pretty much

04:57:58.000 death.

04:57:58.380 My grandparents have been together since middle school.

04:58:01.060 A lot of my friends got together in middle school that I see getting married now, and

04:58:05.140 they stick with each other.

04:58:07.000 Okay.

04:58:07.520 And then, Justin, I do see this, and I don't know if you recall it since I was late on your

04:58:12.300 previous TTS.

04:58:14.120 I'll treat this as a read.

04:58:16.360 Oh, hold on.

04:58:17.260 Let me pull it back up.

04:58:18.080 There should always be a power imbalance in a healthy traditional relationship, the woman 1.00

04:58:23.140 submitting to the man as the leader, regardless of any gap in ages.

04:58:27.760 From based, Justin.

04:58:31.320 Okay.

04:58:32.000 I would disagree with that.

04:58:33.220 Oh, okay.

04:58:33.760 Well, I'm going to try to get some other people involved here, but there's quite a few notes.

04:58:39.280 I'm going to try to blast through all of it here pretty quick.

04:58:42.680 Although, for you, I do want to, wait, is it for you, or is it for, no, it's Mars.

04:58:50.780 Your pronouns are she, her, it on your Instagram.

04:58:55.500 What do you mean by it?

04:58:57.180 It's kind of like a, I'm kind of an it, you know, it's like, I'm a weirdo, like weird

04:59:05.060 little thing, you know, it's like, I, I act a little, uh, wilder than your average human.

04:59:13.200 So I don't know.

04:59:14.740 I've always been not in just like a sexual way.

04:59:17.640 Um, I've always been kind of a freak, you know, so it kind of falls under that category

04:59:23.040 of like, cause I am a bit of like a freak in nature.

04:59:26.840 So it describes just fine for me, I guess.

04:59:30.300 Sure.

04:59:30.760 Uh, so you, you write that you're neurodivergent and you're living very alternatively.

04:59:36.820 So you would say most of your relationship stories are unique as you became a professional

04:59:41.100 in your industry over five years ago.

04:59:43.100 And you're usually in a relationship. 1.00

04:59:44.680 You said you like turning men into your, your words, my little bitches. 1.00

04:59:51.780 Consensually. 1.00

04:59:52.300 Consensually.

04:59:52.740 Consensually is what you say.

04:59:53.740 Um, so what, can you be, I guess, precise? 1.00

04:59:57.300 What, what does that look like to turn a man into your little bitch? 1.00

05:00:02.020 Well, yeah, that would mean that they're my sub and I am their mistress and technically 1.00

05:00:11.300 unless, unless they're not into the degradation thing, I wouldn't call them my little bitch, 0.99

05:00:16.300 but most of them are into degradation and they do come to me so that they can become my little 1.00

05:00:21.980 bitch. 1.00

05:00:22.440 Okay. 1.00

05:00:22.980 And, uh, I see.

05:00:25.880 Um, so what are, you know what?

05:00:29.040 I was going to ask, what are some of the ways, but I looked at your website and on your website,

05:00:33.160 I'll read some and if you want to amend or add anything, we'll do that.

05:00:37.220 You said your minimum session time is one hour for a tribute of $450.

05:00:41.740 The suggested session time is 90 minutes for a tribute of $650.

05:00:45.820 So essentially that's what they're paying you.

05:00:49.040 The type of kinks that you offer are electric play, spitting, SPH. 1.00

05:00:55.400 What is that? 1.00

05:00:55.720 Small penis humiliation. 1.00

05:00:57.280 Okay. 1.00

05:00:57.980 Uh, CBT.

05:00:59.520 Cock and ball torture. 1.00

05:01:00.300 So what we were talking about before, uh, public domination, cash meets drop-offs, financial

05:01:06.840 domination, online domination, strap-on play, waxing, manscaping, toilet, toilet play. 0.96

05:01:13.820 So you'll shove their head in the toilet. 1.00

05:01:15.560 I have shit in a man's mouth. 1.00

05:01:19.420 Holy shit. 1.00

05:01:21.540 Yo, wait. 0.99

05:01:22.520 It's on video.

05:01:23.340 Wait.

05:01:23.580 It's also on video.

05:01:24.400 That is just, wait, hold on.

05:01:25.900 Wait, I have not used these guys.

05:01:31.820 I, I don't use my stream deck, my, my thing much anymore, but I think this is appropriate. 0.99

05:01:38.600 Send the fucking nukes, boy. 0.99

05:01:41.440 Nuke the fucking whatever podcast studio. 1.00

05:01:43.600 Hold on. 1.00

05:01:43.860 I'm also sending an asteroid for good measure. 1.00

05:01:47.400 Holy shit, boys. 1.00

05:01:50.620 Holy shit. 1.00

05:01:51.540 In fact, here's just another missile just to fucking top things off. 1.00

05:01:55.900 Fucking hat trick with, uh, okay, so, wow, that's, fuck, that's, okay, um, impact play. 0.99

05:02:03.640 Can you just really quickly impact play, like, just punching, hitting? 1.00

05:02:07.480 I actually don't. 0.99

05:02:08.780 Well, I mean, I'll, like, punch their ass, like, it's a form of, like, uh, less stingy, 1.00

05:02:13.100 more, you know, sometimes they like a blunt force. 0.99

05:02:16.160 Um, but I, impact play is just that, like, physical domination with, you can use toys or your hands,

05:02:27.320 or you can kind of do, like, a wrestling.

05:02:29.360 Okay, we got it.

05:02:29.800 Yeah, barehanded spanking, vlogging. 0.98

05:02:31.360 Humiliation, you do humiliation, degradation, you do pegging, domestic servitude, so that's, like, 0.96

05:02:37.280 basically the guy just, like, does chores, cleans your house.

05:02:39.520 Yeah, they get the little maid outfit and everything. 0.99

05:02:41.880 Uh, foot and boot worship, you do feminization, sissification, so you turn the guy into a sissy. 1.00

05:02:48.320 Yes. 0.98

05:02:48.640 Uh, fantasy role play, corporal punishment, bondage, temperature, sensory play, so you, like,

05:02:53.760 run ice on them or something, I guess.

05:02:55.220 Yeah, different things with heat.

05:02:56.320 You can do fire.

05:02:57.060 I have a candle company where I make my own all-natural.

05:03:00.000 Okay, uh, scent play, what is scent play?

05:03:02.100 So, scent play is based off of the person's attraction to your natural scent, or it could

05:03:09.600 be, could be other scents.

05:03:10.720 I could be playing, doing scent play with a variety of essential oils or just something

05:03:15.940 to stimulate that in their brain. 1.00

05:03:19.540 But, yeah, scent play generally is, like, my armpits, my feet, my ass. 1.00

05:03:23.640 I want to go home. 1.00

05:03:26.740 You're here. 0.68

05:03:27.600 And then, uh, and then, the final thing on the list is cucking.

05:03:32.940 Okay, so I just wanted to give some, uh, some explanation there, um, in terms, does that

05:03:39.420 fairly represent, and you do that in relationships, too, not just, do the.

05:03:44.460 I do, well, I'm out of a relationship.

05:03:46.740 Yeah, all these things I did within my relationship.

05:03:49.340 Do you charge them for it, or is it for free?

05:03:51.500 Do I charge who?

05:03:52.420 My partner.

05:03:52.680 Like, let's say you're dating a guy, but he's not a client.

05:03:56.020 Do you do, do you engage in that dynamic in your, like, genuine romantic relationships?

05:04:03.780 Um, sometimes, yeah.

05:04:05.820 I, I, when I'm dating a guy, I love a guy who can switch.

05:04:11.320 That's kind of what I'm looking for.

05:04:12.980 Um, for someone that I'm dating, I just.

05:04:18.160 What does that mean?

05:04:19.120 Switch.

05:04:19.620 I wouldn't necessarily date, uh, I would not date a full submissive.

05:04:23.360 I will see them professionally, but I won't date a full submissive.

05:04:27.120 For me to date you, it needs to be provable that you are able to dominate me, but that

05:04:34.260 doesn't mean.

05:04:34.500 Oh, so you're a switch.

05:04:35.340 Okay.

05:04:35.760 Yeah, exactly.

05:04:36.560 And they need to be a switch, too.

05:04:38.380 And I'm a switch, yes.

05:04:39.480 Is the ideal dynamic for you, uh, for a romantic relationship, not just your clients, he's the

05:04:45.960 dom and you're the sub.

05:04:48.160 Or switch.

05:04:49.640 Switch.

05:04:49.860 Okay, sometimes, I see, okay.

05:04:51.640 Now, here's where all of this gets a bit confusing.

05:04:55.000 You wrote in your message to us, one of your disagreements with me or the show, you write, 0.99

05:05:00.020 I disagree, well, you disagree with the type of shit that you, me, think that women should 1.00

05:05:05.520 do for men in the early dating phase. 0.99

05:05:07.500 Right.

05:05:07.740 I mean, we already sort of, like, were talking about this when it came to chivalry and.

05:05:11.640 Well, but now it's getting into my expectations.

05:05:15.280 Nathan, could you crack the door, please?

05:05:16.520 Uh, so what do you disagree about in terms of what I want?

05:05:22.680 Well, I said that I couldn't get super specific about it because I just, it was just kind of

05:05:27.920 based off of things I've heard on the show via little clips and I truly don't remember

05:05:33.680 anything by quote.

05:05:35.120 Yeah.

05:05:35.600 Well, here, maybe I'll.

05:05:36.500 But if we want to get into some things, we can, yeah.

05:05:39.120 I can provide, um, I'll play the bow video.

05:05:44.720 Nathan, can you get the bow video?

05:05:46.760 Uh, so my expectation is, um, I want a woman, well, one of my expectations, the first time 1.00

05:05:54.220 a girl comes over to my, uh, not quite yet. 0.98

05:05:56.560 Well, in just a sec, in just a sec, uh, I want a woman, the first time she comes over 1.00

05:06:00.400 to my house, she should do my laundry. 1.00

05:06:02.200 What did you do to deserve that?

05:06:06.160 What do you mean?

05:06:06.680 I might be down for that to be honest, but you're not, I'm wait, I'm not propositioning

05:06:13.240 you.

05:06:13.560 I'm not, hold on.

05:06:14.540 I'm not propositioning you.

05:06:15.960 I'm explaining what my, I know I'm giving you an example of like, Oh, I'm not saying you

05:06:20.540 I'm saying if someone wanted me to come to their, yeah, if a guy in some guy that did

05:06:25.440 Right, exactly.

05:06:26.600 Okay.

05:06:26.880 Yeah.

05:06:27.060 Um, depends on what they were doing first.

05:06:29.940 I may just agree to do that.

05:06:32.100 Well, I mean, so, I mean, in term you're asking what the woman gets out of it. 0.98

05:06:36.800 Is that your question or what am I bringing? 1.00

05:06:39.820 I mean, I'm not just going to bow into your fucking laundry. 0.99

05:06:42.600 So like, what are, what is the, that's what I would say to a woman I'm interested in dating, 0.99

05:06:47.260 but, uh, is this like open to everybody to comment on?

05:06:51.720 I'll let you in.

05:06:52.720 I'll let you in in just a moment.

05:06:54.000 In just a moment.

05:06:54.660 Let me, he's really, really nice to her.

05:06:57.200 Let me flesh out the, this idea here.

05:06:59.940 We all have different definitions of nice, I would say.

05:07:02.400 Nice and generous.

05:07:03.680 Those are all very, they're on a spectrum.

05:07:06.180 Well, I would say ultimately, um, so wait, your question is what, what am I doing to deserve

05:07:12.920 that?

05:07:13.280 How are you going to incentivize?

05:07:15.400 You're asking what, I mean, I think you're kind of getting at like, Oh, would I be willing

05:07:19.000 to do that?

05:07:19.380 What do I think about bowing and doing your laundry the first time?

05:07:22.120 Um, I don't think too much of it to be honest, but, and I might be down to do something like

05:07:27.580 that, but I'm not just going to do it.

05:07:29.680 I have to do it for a reason.

05:07:31.240 I need to, I need to be, I need to want to do it.

05:07:34.300 Well, it should be unprompted.

05:07:35.920 So I don't need, I shouldn't even have to explain it to a woman. 1.00

05:07:38.280 She should want to do it. 0.99

05:07:39.900 Why the fuck would I owe you that though? 0.98

05:07:41.220 Well, why, why should men pay for first dates? 0.98

05:07:43.040 Why should men be similar? 0.99

05:07:44.360 You asked me on a date and I'm going to get all ready and cute for you.

05:07:47.840 And knowing that you're probably going to be going to want to be a little intimate with

05:07:52.240 me.

05:07:52.920 Cause let's be real.

05:07:54.040 She gets to be intimate with me.

05:07:55.320 No, you don't.

05:07:56.660 No, we don't. 0.98

05:07:57.540 Like let's be fucking real. 0.98

05:07:58.800 No. 0.99

05:07:59.400 Wait, what do you, what do you mean?

05:08:00.400 We have a vibrate.

05:08:01.080 We are so happy with going home to our vibrators or that wasn't my argument, this idea that

05:08:08.240 sex is an equal value exchange, just cause you're watching all of our, why are men paying

05:08:14.060 so much money for it?

05:08:15.500 If we are the ones that get to get it, it's not an equal exchange or else we would be paying

05:08:20.820 for it.

05:08:21.400 That's not true.

05:08:22.480 So sex is a equal value exchange.

05:08:25.220 Um, and honestly, I think actually women, uh, I mean, it depends exactly what we're the 1.00

05:08:31.060 speaking penetrated too.

05:08:32.340 Like it's, I don't, I don't think there's, it's an equal value exchange to be honest.

05:08:36.740 Okay. 0.98

05:08:37.880 If you have sex with me, do you get sex? 1.00

05:08:41.160 Yeah, but if I have it the same way, I totally did this idea that women are like dislike sex. 1.00

05:08:47.480 That's basically your argument.

05:08:48.540 No, it's not.

05:08:49.140 No, it's not.

05:08:49.780 Stop, stop.

05:08:50.840 That's a weird, like, I assume you're sex positive.

05:08:53.120 That's a really weird take for somebody who's sex positive.

05:08:55.420 You're not understanding what I'm saying at all.

05:08:58.040 I actually believe like different things out of sex and we value it.

05:09:01.060 In different ways.

05:09:02.020 Uh, in one example, even if it's purely an emotional, but if it's purely physical, then

05:09:07.120 a lot of women don't like to have sex. 1.00

05:09:09.280 That's just purely physical.

05:09:10.360 No, that's not what I'm saying.

05:09:12.220 Oh my God.

05:09:12.720 You guys just struggle to follow along with what I'm actually trying to communicate here.

05:09:17.560 So I believe, for example, uh, are you going to say that, well, you know, uh, women climax 0.99

05:09:21.620 less than men? 0.72

05:09:23.420 That would actually be a good argument in your favor.

05:09:26.480 I don't think it's a good, in her favor or my favor?

05:09:29.260 In her favor.

05:09:30.020 I think that's a biological, I don't think that women, however, however, uh, while that's 1.00

05:09:34.100 the case for some women. 1.00

05:09:34.880 I'd argue they climax more.

05:09:36.180 Right.

05:09:36.500 I'm about to say that, uh, women, women complain about women can be, women can never, hello.

05:09:43.020 Uh, women can be multi-orgasmic. 1.00

05:09:46.240 Like some, like some women, I'm not saying all women have this experience.

05:09:50.180 Women can come like 10 times, 20 times, 30 times without even having sex. 1.00

05:09:54.820 And it's like, I can, I get right.

05:09:57.520 Right now.

05:09:58.160 And she could come.

05:09:58.720 So she doesn't need no man.

05:10:01.680 Right.

05:10:02.160 So, but what I'm saying is it would be like in some instances, like, and I've had this

05:10:07.020 experience with women I've dated, they can come like 30 times in a row and I get my one. 1.00

05:10:12.320 And it's like, uh, it seems like she's actually deriving more physical pleasure.

05:10:16.920 She's probably like, uh, enjoying it more, I guess not to say that I'm not enjoying it,

05:10:21.180 but like, I feel like if you're a multi-orgasmic woman, uh, sex is actually just on a purely 1.00

05:10:26.580 physical level, actually more enjoyable for some women. 1.00

05:10:29.760 And in addition to this, uh, multi-orgasm in men is like exceedingly rare.

05:10:36.380 And the thing that's more enjoyable for women, I feel like is linked to like more,

05:10:42.320 of the brain than the body.

05:10:43.880 It's linked to that like emotional connection is where we get so much of that pleasure from.

05:10:48.440 And also you're saying right now, I feel like that the orgasm is the most pleasurable part

05:10:54.320 of sex.

05:10:55.260 Didn't say that at all. 0.97

05:10:56.540 But if you want to continue, yeah, but we're counting orgasms and you're saying, oh, well, 0.80

05:10:59.360 women have all these orgasms, which also I can only have one to two max. 1.00

05:11:04.360 So, okay. 0.99

05:11:04.900 Then you'd be on equal footing to men, but it's equal in number of orgasms. 0.90

05:11:10.260 It's okay. 0.86

05:11:10.540 Sure.

05:11:10.820 I can agree on that.

05:11:12.000 Well, I mean, I would argue, I mean, I would argue even a woman, I mean, look, it's, how 0.93

05:11:18.460 do you know without having the experience of being a woman, I guess.

05:11:22.740 But I do think that even for women who can basically just orgasm once, even that one, 1.00

05:11:31.220 I don't know, probably still different type of work.

05:11:33.840 Look, I don't know. 1.00

05:11:34.980 I've also had bad sex and had a bad time and been like, fuck this shit. 1.00

05:11:38.060 I'm just going to make myself orgasm. 1.00

05:11:39.680 So just because I had that orgasm, just to like make it like a little better for me, doesn't

05:11:43.960 mean that I got what he got out of that experience.

05:11:47.120 Men can have that same experience where it's like, all right, I'm just, all right, I'm going

05:11:52.560 to bring myself to climax.

05:11:53.420 Well, in my experience, that's never happened.

05:11:55.780 And so, so have you ever faked an orgasm?

05:12:00.080 Um, barely.

05:12:02.720 Okay.

05:12:03.140 So do you think the guy would know if you faked?

05:12:06.640 No.

05:12:07.180 So how would you know if a guy's been disappointed in his sexual experience with you?

05:12:10.620 Because of the way that they react and then return back to my DMs or my text messages.

05:12:17.380 All right.

05:12:18.080 The way that they say, oh my God, this was the best blah, blah ever.

05:12:21.100 Like they're not going to like over, they're not going to pretend like they loved it when

05:12:24.880 they did it.

05:12:25.340 I'm going to bring it back on the, on the rails here though. 0.99

05:12:27.940 So you disagreed with the type of shit that, uh, I think women should do for men early 1.00

05:12:31.620 in the dating phase. 0.99

05:12:32.560 One of those things is I would like a woman to, uh, first time she comes over to my house, 1.00

05:12:38.980 fold my laundry.

05:12:40.280 Are you going to like make her like a nice meal?

05:12:42.280 Are you going to like set out?

05:12:42.860 No, she'll make me a meal. 1.00

05:12:44.460 It's your house.

05:12:45.500 That's so raunchy.

05:12:46.720 You're not paying bills or anything.

05:12:49.100 What do you mean?

05:12:49.500 I will be paying the bills.

05:12:51.220 If she likes you, but she doesn't even know she likes you yet.

05:12:54.440 You want her to do your laundry. 1.00

05:12:55.340 Does she like, I mean, has that ever happened for you?

05:12:58.880 All the time.

05:12:59.900 Isn't that video AI though that you, would you?

05:13:02.900 So can I finally chime into the conversation here?

05:13:05.940 Great.

05:13:06.100 Uh, I think that, uh, men don't value women higher the more women does for them, especially 0.61

05:13:14.960 initially in a relationship because the way psychologically that works is not, oh, she's

05:13:20.600 so great for doing this.

05:13:21.860 It's, I'm so great that she's doing all of this for me.

05:13:24.720 And long term, that doesn't actually work out long term.

05:13:28.380 You're not actually attracted to that girl.

05:13:30.380 Well, that's why, again, you said maybe that has happened to you, for you in the past.

05:13:35.340 And I don't know if you actually seriously dated those girls afterwards or were in a relationship

05:13:40.220 with them afterwards.

05:13:41.300 But this is just broadly speaking studies that the more, the more men, uh, the more women

05:13:51.000 do for men, especially initially in a relationship, uh, the less the man just values her.

05:13:57.340 That's a total, that's a total inversion.

05:13:59.420 So maybe, so maybe that isn't the case for you.

05:14:01.840 Well, help me, help me out here because making the declaration that studies say, right?

05:14:06.920 If I said, no, studies say the opposite, it would be rational and reasonable for you to say which

05:14:11.340 studies by what authors.

05:14:13.200 So which studies by what authors?

05:14:14.920 Sure.

05:14:15.200 So do you follow Sadia Khan?

05:14:17.680 Oh, you don't like her, huh?

05:14:20.040 She's not, she's not a like academic.

05:14:23.380 No, but she's one of the most followed. 0.97

05:14:25.420 And did she do an actual scientific study?

05:14:28.600 Prolific dating coaches, right?

05:14:30.300 Did she do a scientific study? 0.95

05:14:32.240 Pretty much anybody that is in the dating world understands like this to be the case.

05:14:38.040 Did she do the scientific study? 0.98

05:14:39.820 I think it's a way of women to devalue themselves. 1.00

05:14:43.380 Yeah, I don't even know what I'm, what's the point of you've been talking?

05:14:46.200 I would personally, I would personally feel, I would personally feel insulted if somebody

05:14:52.900 asked me something like that and I would just not pursue that relationship.

05:14:56.940 Did the chick do a study? 1.00

05:14:58.000 There's zero coordinates.

05:14:58.780 Did she do an actual study, a scientific study?

05:15:01.380 As in women actually doing things for men and then just a man not committing to her?

05:15:06.680 Those are just words.

05:15:07.300 That's the majority of words.

05:15:07.920 You said, hold on.

05:15:09.280 You said studies show this.

05:15:10.640 No, but you cited to Sadia Khan, who my understanding is she has not done any scientific studies.

05:15:19.080 No, she has clients and she's one of the most prolific dating coaches. 0.98

05:15:24.000 Wait, wait, wait.

05:15:24.400 Didn't she get exposed for like, hold on.

05:15:27.480 I don't follow.

05:15:28.340 I don't follow.

05:15:29.320 So my answer is no, I don't know.

05:15:31.500 I would say, so, so then couldn't Andrew cite to Brian Atlas?

05:15:35.620 Well, Brian has a, one of the most popular and prolific dating clients that have successful

05:15:41.680 relationships.

05:15:42.340 I talked to, wait, wait.

05:15:43.760 I actually think my insight.

05:15:45.200 I can point to male.

05:15:46.280 I can point to the equivalent of male, uh, dating coaches mentor men that then did I say

05:15:52.100 that be relevant.

05:15:53.140 Did I say me?

05:15:54.740 Do you, I'm sorry.

05:15:56.220 Do you, I give a lot of advice.

05:15:58.360 That's kind of what I do, but actually, actually, it is working for myself.

05:16:03.560 Fantastic.

05:16:04.040 Actually.

05:16:04.440 Okay.

05:16:04.600 Well, that wasn't my argument above the age of average, but is your, is your, is your profession

05:16:09.140 dating coach?

05:16:10.040 Great.

05:16:10.920 Is your profession dating coach?

05:16:12.720 Cause I missed that in your intro.

05:16:14.000 No, it was not.

05:16:14.720 That's why I wanted to come on here.

05:16:16.160 So you reference, so you're referencing other dating coaches.

05:16:19.680 Yes.

05:16:20.140 Great.

05:16:20.480 So then if I reference a male dating coach, we're on the same equivalent to playing field

05:16:24.520 then has any, one of the ones you followed said that it's a good idea for a

05:16:28.340 woman to go to a guy's house and do their laundry for them. 1.00

05:16:30.960 That that's going to help.

05:16:31.700 Actually.

05:16:32.320 Yes.

05:16:32.780 Several, several inside of the red pill man. 1.00

05:16:35.100 Cause I just named, Oh shit. 0.99

05:16:36.520 You could do, you could talk to Michael Sartain. 0.98

05:16:38.720 You could talk to, they say it's a good idea for women to come over to a guy's house the 1.00

05:16:42.680 first time.

05:16:43.140 Yeah.

05:16:43.260 If they want to impress him.

05:16:44.040 Yeah.

05:16:44.160 And start acting like a housemaid. 1.00

05:16:46.220 If they want, if they want, if they, if they want, if they want to impress him.

05:16:49.560 But my question to you, hang on, hang on.

05:16:52.840 But my question to you is you said there's studies.

05:16:56.020 Yes.

05:16:56.740 Where are they?

05:16:57.580 What are they called?

05:16:58.340 You know what?

05:16:58.820 I wish I had a laptop and phone with me, but that's a rule not to have it.

05:17:01.520 Well, I'm just asking you what they're called.

05:17:03.500 I can, I, I don't, I don't have that kind of bandwidth.

05:17:06.620 How about, how about a single author?

05:17:09.340 I, I would have to pull it up right here.

05:17:11.660 Okay.

05:17:12.300 Roughly.

05:17:12.700 How long were they?

05:17:14.020 Say that again?

05:17:14.560 Roughly.

05:17:14.960 How long were they?

05:17:15.660 How long were what?

05:17:16.400 The studies.

05:17:17.160 The studies.

05:17:18.000 That you read.

05:17:18.640 I'm saying that broadly, this is the known, the known.

05:17:23.260 Okay.

05:17:23.800 Base that if you do this for men, one, you're degrading.

05:17:26.520 Did the studies have a meta analysis?

05:17:27.800 What do you mean?

05:17:28.980 That's not true.

05:17:30.240 Okay.

05:17:30.740 That's not true.

05:17:31.320 How has that worked out?

05:17:32.700 Has that worked out for anybody?

05:17:33.960 This is anecdotal.

05:17:35.120 Have you, have you, you referenced studies.

05:17:38.180 Okay.

05:17:38.460 So how about if I take that back, right?

05:17:41.260 Okay.

05:17:41.660 If I take that back and come back with studies another time or when I get my phone, then we

05:17:46.980 can continue this conversation.

05:17:48.360 But let's say it's.

05:17:49.080 Did you actually read any studies on this?

05:17:51.080 No, she just invented it. 0.96

05:17:52.060 Yes, but I'm not a, I don't have a super memory and I don't have a laptop or my phone in front

05:17:56.400 of me.

05:17:56.860 So it'd be easier to do that if I had that to back it up.

05:17:59.460 But we can, we can even explore this absent studies.

05:18:02.460 Sure.

05:18:02.620 So do you think that, uh, in terms of a woman, uh, creating, uh, developing the affinity,

05:18:13.220 the male affinity towards her, you think it'll be harmful for her to be helpful to him to,

05:18:20.900 to cook?

05:18:22.420 Initially, yes.

05:18:23.000 So if a woman cooks for a man, that's, if that's going to make him like her less. 1.00

05:18:29.920 If it's the first time she's over at his house, yes.

05:18:33.400 What evidence do you have for this?

05:18:35.360 But, but listen, I. 1.00

05:18:37.060 Have you fucked women? 1.00

05:18:37.940 I, ew, no. 1.00

05:18:39.080 Do you date women?

05:18:39.940 No.

05:18:40.560 Okay.

05:18:41.120 So you have two men here.

05:18:42.860 No.

05:18:43.260 Can we ask the men?

05:18:44.620 Yeah.

05:18:44.880 You know what?

05:18:45.380 Why don't we ask the men?

05:18:46.100 I personally am very domestic with my boyfriend.

05:18:49.840 Like I love cooking for him.

05:18:51.920 Does he enjoy it?

05:18:53.140 Yes.

05:18:53.700 I'm Cuban.

05:18:54.600 Wait, can I ask you a question?

05:18:55.840 Had you not, uh, had you, I'm assuming you didn't do those things quite early on.

05:19:01.800 Do you think he would have been like, had you done those things though?

05:19:04.540 I know you don't, you wouldn't have done them, but had you done them, do you, do you think 0.99

05:19:08.080 he would have been like, the fuck is wrong with her? 1.00

05:19:10.480 I don't like her. 1.00

05:19:11.520 Or do you think he would have the same affinity?

05:19:13.560 He's a very intelligent man.

05:19:14.860 So if he brought home a woman that instantly gets to cleaning up the house and cooking everything 1.00

05:19:21.940 for him, he'd probably think that there was something wrong with that person.

05:19:25.840 No, he'd be like, this chick is dope. 1.00

05:19:28.440 Yes, I have a keeper.

05:19:30.180 I have a keeper.

05:19:30.740 Free labor, maybe. 0.93

05:19:32.100 That's just self-aware.

05:19:32.560 Wait, wait, wait, wait.

05:19:33.720 Also, that would just show her everyone. 1.00

05:19:35.700 Fuck, man. 1.00

05:19:36.960 Sorry. 1.00

05:19:37.220 If you hear me coming in, be quiet.

05:19:40.800 Okay.

05:19:41.600 So it's interesting that you talk about free labor.

05:19:44.560 You want a guy to pay for the first date? 1.00

05:19:46.900 Did your...

05:19:47.780 Do they agree?

05:19:49.280 Do we agree before going on a date?

05:19:50.500 Answer the question.

05:19:51.680 Yes.

05:19:52.500 What?

05:19:53.140 I don't care if they agree.

05:19:54.620 Invites me to a date.

05:19:56.260 But do, is that what you want?

05:19:58.920 I want that, yes.

05:19:59.920 To the point that, in fact, I think you disclosed, you make sure you get the affirmative

05:20:04.420 certainty prior to going on the date that they will pay.

05:20:07.800 Yes.

05:20:07.980 Because it's a way of checking their character.

05:20:11.260 That's how great.

05:20:11.820 They can't afford a meal.

05:20:13.360 And if it's a problem...

05:20:14.000 So free labor?

05:20:14.500 It's the same thing with the woman. 0.69

05:20:15.200 So free labor?

05:20:15.940 And if it's a problem, then it's...

05:20:17.140 Okay.

05:20:17.580 So how much did your boyfriend spend on the first date?

05:20:20.460 Did he take you to a nice restaurant?

05:20:22.000 No.

05:20:22.720 Okay.

05:20:23.020 How much did he spend?

05:20:23.600 How much did he spend?

05:20:24.700 We actually had our first date at an IHOP.

05:20:26.640 So...

05:20:27.120 And it was great.

05:20:28.040 Okay.

05:20:28.280 How much did he spend?

05:20:29.640 I don't know.

05:20:30.220 How much do you think you can spend at an IHOP?

05:20:32.280 Could be a hundred bucks.

05:20:34.780 You'd order the whole menu, right?

05:20:36.380 What do you order?

05:20:37.000 You'd order the whole menu, actually.

05:20:38.980 No.

05:20:39.680 Appetizer or two?

05:20:40.340 I don't know.

05:20:40.500 A meal at McDonald's costs 20 bucks now.

05:20:42.700 Whatever.

05:20:43.240 It has to have been less than 40, less than 50 bucks or something, you know?

05:20:48.460 And we had been talking before that.

05:20:50.440 Okay.

05:20:50.680 How much does he make per hour?

05:20:51.720 He doesn't make money per hour.

05:20:56.200 He...

05:20:56.800 Well...

05:20:57.440 Yeah.

05:20:57.940 Salaried?

05:20:58.520 Okay.

05:20:59.020 Per year?

05:21:00.120 He earns money and he basically gets donations.

05:21:04.920 He has a base salary, but he also collects commission from donations that he brings in for his organization.

05:21:11.940 So, yeah.

05:21:12.880 It's a mix of...

05:21:13.780 He's his own boss.

05:21:14.840 What's his organization?

05:21:16.740 So, again, I always keep my private life private.

05:21:20.620 Which is fair.

05:21:21.100 So, yes.

05:21:22.200 But he has his own organization.

05:21:24.260 He is a CEO of it and he manages it well.

05:21:28.500 And so, you know, somebody like him is somebody I respect and look up to and...

05:21:34.200 How is that material to the conversation at hand?

05:21:36.900 Well, because, you know, he's a man that I have to look up to the person that I'm dating, right?

05:21:42.760 Because of their intelligence, because of how they live their lives and if they...

05:21:50.000 Prattle.

05:21:50.600 Huh?

05:21:51.000 Prattle.

05:21:51.700 Say that again?

05:21:52.320 Prattle.

05:21:53.040 Prattle.

05:21:53.420 You're just praddling.

05:21:54.520 Praddling?

05:21:54.960 I want to get back to the actual conversation at hand.

05:21:57.080 Okay.

05:21:57.480 I thought you were asking me about my dating life.

05:21:59.180 The virtuous...

05:22:00.020 Go ahead.

05:22:00.120 The qualities of your boyfriend are kind of irrelevant here.

05:22:03.320 I wish I could copy the system.

05:22:04.000 I'm confused why you brought up the...

05:22:05.800 I've never made a copy.

05:22:07.260 I'm curious why you brought up the fact that he receives donations.

05:22:10.780 So, I'm assuming it's like perhaps a non-profit organization.

05:22:14.040 I would assume the donations go to the organization, not into his pockets.

05:22:18.540 I don't know how the fact that he receives donations is relevant to my question as to his income.

05:22:25.160 If he's salaried or how much he earns the hour, that's why I answered.

05:22:28.320 It should go...

05:22:29.200 Okay.

05:22:29.800 I'm not going to go down that rabbit hole.

05:22:32.360 Okay.

05:22:32.940 So, do you want to ballpark his yearly income, I guess?

05:22:37.900 He definitely is...

05:22:39.620 He makes a lot.

05:22:40.560 Definitely more than a million dollars a year.

05:22:43.220 And he does very well for himself, but he earns every single cent.

05:22:46.720 As in that man is working 12-hour days.

05:22:50.640 He's usually on the road.

05:22:51.980 Why does this matter?

05:22:53.200 I'm just curious.

05:22:53.920 Why do you feel the need to share like...

05:22:56.440 Because I truly want to shout him out.

05:22:58.720 I know he's watching and I want to show him that I'm very proud of what he does.

05:23:03.340 So, shout out, babe. 1.00

05:23:04.360 Love you.

05:23:05.980 It's just kind of...

05:23:07.500 What's the word for...

05:23:08.680 I guess irrelevant.

05:23:09.480 He would have been mad at your first date if you had gone to his house and you had put

05:23:14.740 his socks away.

05:23:15.320 I think it's relevant that I am in a happy, healthy relationship and I want that for more

05:23:20.560 people.

05:23:21.200 But that's established now.

05:23:22.280 I agree.

05:23:22.880 I'm here to tell you guys what I think attracts a man that is high value and I think these

05:23:29.340 are the qualities that makes a high value woman. 0.99

05:23:31.760 So, what do you do for him?

05:23:33.140 So, he can come to me for advice, but when we're together, I do actually like cook.

05:23:39.400 I like cooking for him.

05:23:41.920 Do you guys live together?

05:23:43.140 No, not yet.

05:23:45.220 Does he cook for you?

05:23:45.920 He has cooked breakfast items before, but I'm the better cook.

05:23:50.040 I'm Latina.

05:23:50.760 So, yeah.

05:23:52.880 You know, it's, again, a balance.

05:23:54.900 Just because I can cook doesn't mean that he doesn't do it being nice.

05:24:00.040 You mentioned chivalry.

05:24:01.520 I sent him flowers, you know, even if it's not a holiday because most men don't get flowers

05:24:07.520 until the day they die.

05:24:08.460 Before you ever first cook, hold on. 1.00

05:24:10.860 Who the fuck wants flowers? 1.00

05:24:12.840 Wait, wait, wait, wait. 1.00

05:24:14.300 Men don't want fucking flowers. 1.00

05:24:16.020 Let me get this. 1.00

05:24:16.640 Let me get this.

05:24:17.020 Let me just ask the chat.

05:24:18.100 Send in a super chat.

05:24:19.460 Send in a super chat. 0.99

05:24:20.800 Who the fuck wants flowers? 1.00

05:24:22.540 Nobody wants flowers. 1.00

05:24:23.460 That's a great question.

05:24:24.900 You give them ammo.

05:24:26.240 Do we like flowers? 1.00

05:24:28.320 No, I don't want fucking flowers. 1.00

05:24:29.860 I want ammo. 1.00

05:24:30.740 I want shit that's cool. 1.00

05:24:31.880 I don't want fucking flowers. 1.00

05:24:33.360 I did buy my boyfriend a chainmail headpiece once. 1.00

05:24:36.600 He loved it.

05:24:37.020 It was expensive.

05:24:37.760 Yeah.

05:24:37.940 Okay, so back here.

05:24:41.380 So how many dates would you say you guys went on before you finally started cooking and

05:24:47.880 cleaning?

05:24:49.440 That's a good question.

05:24:51.480 Because you do that now, but.

05:24:53.160 Yeah, I'd say it was, you know, after a few weeks of.

05:24:57.240 A couple weeks.

05:24:57.800 Hanging out.

05:24:58.380 So like how many, I'm not looking for an exact, but he took you on three dates, four dates,

05:25:03.720 five dates?

05:25:04.200 Um, when you actually like a person, you don't really quantify the date.

05:25:08.140 You just try to spend as much time together as you can.

05:25:10.260 That doesn't answer the question.

05:25:11.640 Sometimes we went out for lunch.

05:25:13.420 And if you want to qualify that as a date, then you can.

05:25:16.420 Um, so I, uh, yes.

05:25:19.820 Um, and sometimes, you know, he comes over and I pay for the groceries and then cook the food.

05:25:23.920 It's very balanced.

05:25:26.360 Um, well, probably not balanced, but, um, but did he, I don't like to quantify, I don't

05:25:30.960 like a transactional relationship, you know?

05:25:33.880 So I'm not counting the money I spend on him when I go grocery shopping.

05:25:38.300 I don't know if the word is extraneous.

05:25:41.520 There's, there's a lot of extraneous sort of irrelevant, unnecessary.

05:25:46.740 It's a whatever podcast.

05:25:48.160 We talk about whatever though.

05:25:49.140 Weren't you?

05:25:50.640 Like, don't be upset at me by the end of this, that we're going late because all this

05:25:55.620 irrelevant, extraneous information has been presented that is not material to the conversation

05:26:01.220 at hand.

05:26:01.980 So, um, okay.

05:26:04.600 So before you started cooking, before you did any of that stuff, did he ever, I know your

05:26:10.260 first date was IHOP, low cost.

05:26:13.060 Did he ever take you to a really nice dinner?

05:26:14.920 Really fancy?

05:26:15.780 Yes, absolutely.

05:26:17.020 Um, for Christmas, we went to a really, really nice spot Christmas Eve, actually.

05:26:22.120 So he has spent a pretty penny for Valentine's day.

05:26:26.220 We went to the hard rock at the, the hard rock spa, um, in Florida in like the Fort Lauderdale

05:26:33.520 area.

05:26:34.580 You love to include irrelevant information. 0.97

05:26:37.060 Well, I think people like, who gives a fuck where? 0.96

05:26:40.880 Well, you asked about expensive dates. 0.99

05:26:42.520 I'm telling you.

05:26:42.920 Be precise.

05:26:43.900 Did you want to not know why it is expensive?

05:26:46.460 I didn't, I didn't.

05:26:47.900 Right.

05:26:48.560 So those are some of the expensive dates.

05:26:51.220 It's okay.

05:26:52.280 Any other?

05:26:53.180 Yeah.

05:26:54.000 So you like the, you like the tea.

05:26:56.100 Don't lie. 1.00

05:26:56.720 No, I don't give a fuck. 1.00

05:26:57.860 Um, so, okay. 0.99

05:27:00.160 Is that tea?

05:27:01.140 Um, yeah, it's not even.

05:27:03.400 The tea is details.

05:27:04.420 Mm-hmm.

05:27:05.760 Uh, okay.

05:27:06.580 So.

05:27:07.000 Details.

05:27:09.500 Originally, when I was saying how I want a girl to do my laundry or come over and help

05:27:14.660 me cook, clean, whatever.

05:27:15.620 Uh, and I, uh, ideally that should be just immediate up front.

05:27:21.320 Right.

05:27:22.200 Uh, you said, well, that's, uh, what did you say?

05:27:24.720 Unpaid labor or something?

05:27:26.100 I think that's what you said.

05:27:27.220 Yeah.

05:27:27.420 That's transactional.

05:27:28.680 Unpaid labor.

05:27:29.500 It's not transactional.

05:27:30.520 How would it be transactional?

05:27:32.260 It feels like that.

05:27:33.120 As in I brought, I paid for a meal.

05:27:35.580 And so when you come home, you do my laundry.

05:27:38.420 That, that's a service.

05:27:39.640 That's when did I, you are the expert in straw men's.

05:27:43.480 So in any, why would you, why would you say thank you to that?

05:27:47.280 That's not a good thing.

05:27:48.160 I like being an expert at debating.

05:27:49.820 I, I have been doing it for 12 years.

05:27:51.800 So.

05:27:51.980 What is a straw man?

05:27:53.460 So you're saying, you're trying to kind of invalidate my arguments by saying that everything

05:27:59.900 I say is a straw man.

05:28:01.540 Yeah, but what is a straw man?

05:28:02.920 What is a straw man?

05:28:03.880 And it's not.

05:28:04.820 It's.

05:28:05.200 But what is a straw man?

05:28:06.000 Answer the question.

05:28:06.780 What is a straw man?

05:28:07.680 What is a straw man?

05:28:08.760 As soon as you tell me what.

05:28:10.500 Is she.

05:28:11.380 I can answer it. 1.00

05:28:12.840 Get the fuck out. 0.99

05:28:13.860 Oh, go on. 1.00

05:28:15.000 Did I just get kickoff?

05:28:16.100 No, no kickoff.

05:28:17.160 I'm just wondering though.

05:28:18.360 What is a straw man?

05:28:19.300 Straw man argument.

05:28:20.380 Something that is irrelevant to the argument or the conversation.

05:28:25.020 I don't know the exact definition.

05:28:26.140 No, no, no.

05:28:26.160 That's not a straw man.

05:28:27.560 You've been debating for 12 years and you don't know like the number.

05:28:31.440 Yeah. 0.99

05:28:31.640 You don't know the luteal phases or whatever the fuck. 0.98

05:28:33.600 Yes, you have a, you have a. 0.98

05:28:33.940 How would that be relevant to a debate?

05:28:35.860 Are there, are there factual things?

05:28:38.080 Are you saying I can't debate because I don't have the exact precise definition of a straw

05:28:42.700 man argument?

05:28:43.360 Well, no.

05:28:43.980 He's pointing out that it is the case, in fact, that when you're debating, fallacies

05:28:48.360 are the most important aspect of what your opponent is saying or not saying.

05:28:52.080 So point out one that I've done so far.

05:28:53.660 The straw man is a fallacy.

05:28:55.000 Sure.

05:28:55.320 So to point out one example that I've done so far.

05:28:57.460 Well, so do you know what the straw man is?

05:28:59.740 Point out one example.

05:29:01.020 It's because I don't feel like I've used any.

05:29:03.080 Yeah, if you don't.

05:29:03.560 So you can't.

05:29:04.080 She doesn't feel like she's.

05:29:05.400 Hang on, hang on.

05:29:05.860 I know I haven't.

05:29:06.560 How can you know if you haven't used a straw man argument if you don't know what it is?

05:29:09.780 So explain it.

05:29:10.560 Yeah, okay.

05:29:10.980 I'll explain it to you.

05:29:11.680 Go for it.

05:29:11.780 A straw man is when you take an opponent's position and then you reframe the position to

05:29:16.720 argue against a weaker point they didn't make.

05:29:19.460 Right.

05:29:19.740 That's a straw man.

05:29:20.560 And you just did that to Brian.

05:29:21.840 What you did was you misrepresented his position and then made an argument against an argument he did

05:29:26.740 not make.

05:29:27.340 I did not do that at any point.

05:29:28.880 You literally did.

05:29:29.780 What would that be?

05:29:30.740 Okay, so I said, so you said, Brian, you view things in a transactional way in an effort

05:29:36.240 to dismiss my position because I was saying.

05:29:38.600 That's the weaker position trying to argue against.

05:29:40.340 Well, so I was saying that, yes, when the first time a girl comes over, yes, I want her 0.96

05:29:45.140 to, you know, cook and clean and do my laundry.

05:29:47.860 The first time.

05:29:48.100 And then your framing was, Brian, that's transactional because you're saying, if you pay for the dinner, then there's an expectation

05:29:55.520 because you pay for the dinner that the woman should do that. 1.00

05:29:59.560 Those words never left my mouth.

05:30:01.660 So that would be the straw man because you're misrepresenting what I said.

05:30:04.700 I never said.

05:30:05.260 It's not just that.

05:30:06.220 It's a misrepresentation to argue against a different position.

05:30:09.640 So you're misrepresenting it to argue against why you don't like transactions, which is fine.

05:30:14.400 You can argue against why you don't like transactions, but that has nothing to do with the position.

05:30:18.040 Yes.

05:30:18.340 But my argument is that even if you don't qualify it as a transactional relationship, it's factually is.

05:30:26.700 Well, that's not an argument.

05:30:28.100 That's not even true.

05:30:29.300 That's not even an argument.

05:30:30.580 It factually is.

05:30:31.560 If you feel like to continue a relationship with a person, you need to have this person come over and do free labor on the first time that they visit you.

05:30:40.260 But you do realize that this would actually be an entailment of your own position.

05:30:47.480 So if the position is men should pay on first dates, that requires them to labor, to have the resources to pay for the first date. 0.98

05:30:55.140 Ergo, you're, oh my God, this is so ridiculous.

05:30:58.820 No, it's actually the reason for it is if I'm looking for a husband and I want to have kids with them. 0.99

05:31:04.060 Your justification.

05:31:05.100 And I want to have a future with them.

05:31:06.920 If they can't afford a meal, then I'm not going to consider that man.

05:31:09.120 Wait, wait, wait.

05:31:09.540 I love this.

05:31:10.440 The reason, so great.

05:31:11.700 The reason on the first date you want the man to pay for the first date is as demonstration that he can provide for you.

05:31:16.420 The reason I want a woman to cook and clean early. 1.00

05:31:19.380 And because it shows if they're generous.

05:31:20.600 Stop. 1.00

05:31:21.480 Stop fucking interrupting, lady. 1.00

05:31:23.260 It's a character. 1.00

05:31:23.840 Do you have BPD?

05:31:25.220 Do you have like borderline personality disorder?

05:31:27.340 I do not.

05:31:28.040 Do you?

05:31:28.780 I don't.

05:31:29.700 But it's interesting that you can't follow the rules.

05:31:32.180 I've asked you not to interrupt.

05:31:33.180 I'm in the middle of a sentence and you've got to constantly interrupt.

05:31:36.940 So again, it's interesting.

05:31:38.360 So what if my justification for what I want is not to be like a, you know, crack in the whip, like a slave master.

05:31:47.620 It's actually a woman who's willing to do that early on is a demonstration to me that she's going to be a good girlfriend. 1.00

05:31:54.240 She's going to be a good, you know, taking care of the household. 1.00

05:31:57.360 That's something that I value in a relationship.

05:31:59.340 Has it worked though?

05:32:01.160 It hasn't worked for you?

05:32:02.440 I don't understand the argument.

05:32:03.380 I value that as well.

05:32:04.320 Somebody done that for you and then you actually dated them afterwards.

05:32:08.460 Yes.

05:32:09.300 Really?

05:32:10.280 So.

05:32:11.280 Where do you find a woman like that? 1.00

05:32:13.020 Or what kind of a background would a girl like that have? 1.00

05:32:15.400 Look, just because you're.

05:32:16.940 What sort of background?

05:32:17.880 Just because you're a Barbie. 1.00

05:32:18.760 Shouldn't there be any background?

05:32:19.680 Just because you're a sorority girl Barbie. 1.00

05:32:21.880 I was never in a sorority.

05:32:22.860 And you believe.

05:32:23.460 I'm a little bit more individualistic than that.

05:32:26.120 Just because you believe being as, you should be as useless as possible to a man for as long as possible early on.

05:32:32.000 I never said that.

05:32:32.680 I said early on.

05:32:33.520 But I don't understand.

05:32:34.600 You don't know.

05:32:35.520 But so if I'm telling you.

05:32:36.760 Is that straw man?

05:32:38.180 If I'm telling you.

05:32:40.740 Here, why don't you define straw man?

05:32:42.660 Well, you just said.

05:32:43.700 No, no, no.

05:32:44.200 Answer my question.

05:32:44.900 You misrepresent the person's position to then use their argument against them.

05:32:48.600 You just said.

05:32:49.100 That's not.

05:32:49.540 That wouldn't be a misrepresentation.

05:32:50.780 That's not a straw man either.

05:32:51.920 Y'all are using ad hominems.

05:32:52.480 That would just be like an ad hom or an insult.

05:32:54.680 That's not ad hominem.

05:32:55.580 Why are you requiring a man to show you his?

05:32:57.820 It is ad hominem.

05:32:58.700 It's not an ad hominem.

05:32:59.500 You don't know what ad hominem is.

05:33:00.740 I have an actual definition right here.

05:33:01.480 Read it.

05:33:02.060 You literally don't know what it is.

05:33:03.280 Read the definition of an ad hom.

05:33:04.040 Anyway.

05:33:04.240 You're asking. 1.00

05:33:05.440 What the fuck, dude? 1.00

05:33:07.560 Holy shit. 1.00

05:33:07.720 You're asking a man to show. 1.00

05:33:10.680 I feel so bad for it.

05:33:13.020 Hold on.

05:33:14.400 Whoa. 1.00

05:33:15.420 Holy fuck. 1.00

05:33:16.240 Let me finish. 1.00

05:33:17.220 You asked him to show his character right from the beginning.

05:33:20.720 Can you please, please?

05:33:21.540 If they could be generous.

05:33:23.120 You were saying that you're not even going to go out on a day with a man.

05:33:24.940 Y'all are attacking people's personalities to avoid the actual topic at hand.

05:33:29.060 Okay.

05:33:29.440 When would that happen?

05:33:29.720 Which is an ad hominem.

05:33:31.720 What's your definition of ad hominem?

05:33:33.700 Hang on.

05:33:34.180 Using words and using attributes.

05:33:36.100 That's inaccurate.

05:33:36.740 Hang on.

05:33:37.060 It doesn't even have to be attacking their personality, right?

05:33:39.980 Yeah, there we go.

05:33:40.240 Attacking personality.

05:33:41.480 It's a personal attack.

05:33:42.620 But hang on.

05:33:43.260 Yeah, personal.

05:33:43.760 Here's the thing.

05:33:44.800 Well, no.

05:33:45.620 An insult can be a personal attack, but not an ad hom.

05:33:48.460 An ad hom is when you're attacking them instead of the argument.

05:33:51.720 So, if I were to say to a person, they said something like, you know, I don't know, the sun rises in the east. 1.00

05:33:59.260 And I said, no, it doesn't because you're a stupid bitch. 1.00

05:34:01.360 That would be an ad hom, right? 1.00

05:34:03.060 That would be an ad hom.

05:34:04.220 But if I said, you know, yeah, it does rise in the east. 1.00

05:34:09.120 And that's true, but it only rises, you know, this, I contended with the argument somehow and then ended it with, and you're also a stupid bitch. 1.00

05:34:16.040 That's not an ad hom. 0.99

05:34:17.480 So, the ad hom has to be, you're only attacking them and not the argument.

05:34:22.320 But if you're attacking the argument and them at the same time, that's not an ad hominem.

05:34:27.160 But you have to address this.

05:34:28.480 So, I was saying, you said you wouldn't even go out on a date with a man if he didn't say he was okay for the first date, which is totally fine.

05:34:35.500 I totally understand that.

05:34:36.620 But you're already telling him, hey, show me your character from the first date.

05:34:40.120 And your definition is correct.

05:34:42.280 Why is it not okay for him to require to show you?

05:34:43.980 You're also doing slippery slopes.

05:34:45.720 Stop, stop, stop.

05:34:46.060 Let on to speak, please.

05:34:47.280 Stop.

05:34:47.800 Why is it not okay for him to require you to show him your character from the first date if you're requiring it from him?

05:34:55.140 Yeah, because I am showing my character on the first date or the first visit home by, no, by not doing those certain things.

05:35:03.140 So, it is my character to be kind and generous.

05:35:05.480 But it is not my character to be somebody that just does things for no reason.

05:35:12.880 But you are not, I am showing who I am.

05:35:15.140 This is solipsism.

05:35:15.580 This is solipsism.

05:35:16.880 You would agree that there are women who differ from you? 0.97

05:35:19.280 Yes.

05:35:19.920 Okay.

05:35:20.140 So, just because it's not your framework, just because it's not the way you move, doesn't mean that other women can't move like this in an effective, and it wouldn't be less or more effective necessarily. 1.00

05:35:31.440 I think, well, that could be your opinion.

05:35:34.860 I think that that's, I differ in that.

05:35:37.540 For example, she said that she would be okay with going to your place and cleaning your house the first time she comes over.

05:35:45.840 So, is she wrong?

05:35:46.660 And she, no, I'm just saying, would you date her long-term and consider her for a long-term relationship, yes or no, and why?

05:35:55.060 Outside of being a strumber?

05:35:55.980 Well, I'm not going to go into a specific, but I would, so, wait, her specifically?

05:36:01.240 Yeah, because she's a pretty person. 1.00

05:36:03.040 She's very pretty.

05:36:04.440 And she says that she would go over to her place.

05:36:06.280 What would that have to do with your argument, though?

05:36:07.660 And she would go over to your place to clean, and so she has kind of similar values to you.

05:36:12.080 So, would you consider her for a long-term relationship, yes or no, or why?

05:36:17.040 Hold on.

05:36:17.600 Let me make it super simple.

05:36:18.960 Would I date a woman who comes over to my house the first time and folds my laundry? 1.00

05:36:23.340 The answer is yes.

05:36:24.480 Okay.

05:36:24.840 That's my position.

05:36:26.160 Why are you asking for clarification?

05:36:28.680 I'm curious as to what the background of those women are like. 1.00

05:36:32.880 What else comes besides just doing your laundry on the first time that they come over?

05:36:36.800 So, you think because you don't have an OnlyFans, you don't have to do his laundry?

05:36:40.020 No.

05:36:40.160 That's basically what you're saying.

05:36:41.440 No, I'm not.

05:36:41.660 If we extrapolate this out, yes.

05:36:43.080 That's what you're trying to get to.

05:36:44.140 No, you didn't bring up OnlyFans.

05:36:44.840 I'm not saying that.

05:36:45.480 Yeah.

05:36:46.120 I just don't understand the line of inquiry.

05:36:48.680 I think I do.

05:36:49.900 I think I get it.

05:36:50.520 That's what you're saying.

05:36:51.580 What kind of a woman do you date does that outside of doing just that? 1.00

05:36:54.220 Do you think...

05:36:54.800 What is their background?

05:36:55.980 Do you think that that woman... 1.00

05:36:56.840 Because it's very difficult to find.

05:36:57.760 I personally don't know of any women in my circle.

05:37:01.040 You're the first person that I know would do that.

05:37:03.700 Do you think that women who would do that are lesser women to you? 0.70

05:37:06.500 Say it again?

05:37:06.840 Do you think women who would do that are lesser women? 1.00

05:37:09.540 Yes.

05:37:10.220 Much, much lesser women. 0.70

05:37:11.420 That's right.

05:37:12.060 That's what I think. 0.51

05:37:12.620 They're very submissive women. 1.00

05:37:13.600 I said lesser as in of the population, not that they are less than, to clarify.

05:37:18.620 Okay.

05:37:19.220 Numerically.

05:37:20.200 Okay.

05:37:20.940 Yes.

05:37:21.260 So are they...

05:37:22.060 Do you consider them beneath you?

05:37:26.240 No.

05:37:26.880 I think if that's what they want to do, they can do it.

05:37:30.140 If that's going to be their character and personality, then so be it.

05:37:33.600 Wait, that was not supposed to come in that way.

05:37:38.200 I'll let it go through, though.

05:37:39.720 I am curious on what makes a dominatrix.

05:37:42.700 Is this who you always were or what you became?

05:37:45.500 Vector.

05:37:45.700 You mentioned feces.

05:37:47.660 Reminds me of Gigi Allen. 0.95

05:37:49.200 We'll have to get back to it.

05:37:50.100 Yeah, Vector.

05:37:50.820 It's below the threshold.

05:37:51.840 I'm very sorry, but it did come through.

05:37:53.500 Why wouldn't you want to show him off the rip that you're somebody that would want to

05:37:57.460 clean for him, cook for him, take care of him, nurture him, have his children?

05:38:00.340 Because I reveal that later on.

05:38:04.700 If you show me your character and you show me that you're generous, I'll show you...

05:38:08.700 First, I'm not going to impress...

05:38:09.880 So what can he hold back on?

05:38:10.600 I'm not going to use that to impress a man.

05:38:12.440 I'm going to impress a man based on my accomplishments, on my intelligence, on...

05:38:18.580 That's why I don't care about that.

05:38:19.640 All the things that you really care about.

05:38:21.000 What can he hold back on?

05:38:22.060 All the things that I've dated do care about that a lot, actually.

05:38:25.900 Okay.

05:38:26.140 What can he hold back on?

05:38:27.520 I doubt it.

05:38:28.540 I doubt it.

05:38:29.580 And then...

05:38:30.500 Say that again?

05:38:31.300 Since you're holding back on all these things, what can he hold back on besides...

05:38:36.200 A ring.

05:38:37.440 A ring.

05:38:38.380 And a lot of other large investments.

05:38:40.100 Or maybe taking you to a more expensive day or gifts.

05:38:44.480 So as soon as he takes you to Nobu, then you'll start doing all these things?

05:38:47.500 No, at all.

05:38:48.520 I'm saying what you're saying when I do more things and I expect more things and no.

05:38:54.140 But the ultimate, you know, I'm going to go full wife mode is when I have the wife title. 1.00

05:39:00.760 And I think more women would get wiped up. 1.00

05:39:02.460 Why would he want to wife you up if you're not going to act like a wife? 1.00

05:39:05.740 Because why would he wife me up if I'm going to act...

05:39:08.600 Because of her accomplishments.

05:39:10.840 Because of her... 0.82

05:39:11.920 Duh.

05:39:12.420 Her accomplishments.

05:39:12.760 She can do all those things for herself that shows that she can do those things in their 0.99

05:39:16.000 household.

05:39:16.300 Yeah, right.

05:39:17.040 There's a logical reason for it, which is why would he wife me up if I'm already acting

05:39:21.260 like a wife? 0.90

05:39:21.280 Why would he act like a husband and pay for your stuff if he's not a husband yet?

05:39:25.320 That makes sense to me.

05:39:26.040 He's not paying for all her stuff yet.

05:39:27.320 He's not paying.

05:39:28.240 I would think of my own.

05:39:28.980 Why would he assume that...

05:39:30.460 Hang on.

05:39:31.140 Would this logically be backwards?

05:39:32.240 Courting her with dinner isn't paying for stuff.

05:39:33.680 If the idea is he's not going to wife me up because I'm acting like a wife doing the 0.77

05:39:39.560 laundry, doing the this, doing the that.

05:39:40.920 That's how you have 10 years.

05:39:41.960 Yeah, yeah.

05:39:42.300 Hang on.

05:39:42.620 Hang on.

05:39:42.920 Hang on.

05:39:43.280 I don't need the qualifier yet. 1.00

05:39:44.340 I haven't even asked the fucking question. 0.99

05:39:46.140 You seem upset. 0.99

05:39:47.280 So anyway, so the thing is...

05:39:49.240 You just don't have any decorum with your conversation.

05:39:50.440 Even if it's the case, let's just assume that he's like, you're doing all this stuff.

05:39:57.200 The case that you're making is, why would he wife me up when he already has a wife?

05:40:02.060 Yes.

05:40:02.460 But what would be his actual evidence that you would be doing all of these things for him

05:40:08.780 if you're never doing any of these things for him?

05:40:11.840 You said I would never.

05:40:12.900 I said I would show, yes, I can cook.

05:40:15.640 But you haven't showed it yet.

05:40:16.740 So how does he know that?

05:40:17.920 Let's say we're engaged earlier.

05:40:19.340 Yeah, we are talking about the first day.

05:40:20.620 I'm just talking about over the case of the relationship even.

05:40:22.840 Let's say we're dating for a year.

05:40:23.440 I think within a year's time, you can know whether a person can cook, can clean, does

05:40:29.260 cook, does clean, is honest, is loyal, but I'm not going to cook and clean every single

05:40:35.580 day for him to prove that I am going to be a good wife.

05:40:38.680 Do you cook and clean and all that for your boyfriend right now?

05:40:41.500 No, we live separately.

05:40:42.720 I do that for myself because I'm a responsible adult.

05:40:43.880 When you go over to his house, do you cook and clean anything?

05:40:47.120 I have.

05:40:48.040 I have cooked a meal.

05:40:48.940 Do you regularly go over and clean?

05:40:52.180 No.

05:40:52.740 Do you regularly go over and do laundry?

05:40:54.800 Why would she do that? 1.00

05:40:56.220 Why would I go over to his place?

05:40:57.760 I'm just trying to figure out what the...

05:40:59.660 If this guy's a millionaire...

05:41:01.820 Because he's a functional adult.

05:41:04.220 Sometimes.

05:41:04.720 Sometimes.

05:41:05.260 I have a question for the guys in the room.

05:41:07.640 But why if this guy's a millionaire, why would he...

05:41:09.400 She doesn't care for herself until they become a unit. 0.73

05:41:11.800 Wait, okay.

05:41:12.440 I want to hear from you.

05:41:13.220 Go ahead.

05:41:13.340 Does nesting not typically scare a guy away, though, a lot of the time?

05:41:18.940 Like what someone calls nesting and... 1.00

05:41:21.000 Like leaving your shit in his house? 1.00

05:41:22.620 That's different. 1.00

05:41:22.860 No, nesting is a crate in the home.

05:41:24.580 Like kind of forcing yourself, I guess, into their environment too quickly almost?

05:41:30.360 Men get scared by that.

05:41:31.180 Is that something that doesn't...

05:41:32.940 I think that's different.

05:41:33.760 Maybe the girls can expand on that. 1.00

05:41:35.220 Like kind of almost...

05:41:36.840 Yeah.

05:41:37.040 Like kind of welcoming yourself into like their personal duties a little too quickly?

05:41:41.200 Would that not almost scare a guy away sometimes?

05:41:44.500 Or you don't think doing laundry...

05:41:46.660 If it's not going on the kind of guy.

05:41:48.100 Oh, man.

05:41:48.480 I'm way more attracted to this woman because she does nothing that I want her to do. 0.81

05:41:52.840 No, it's terrible.

05:41:53.700 Where's the chase?

05:41:54.900 No, I don't mean it like that.

05:41:56.080 I just mean like almost imposing.

05:41:57.140 Oh, this woman is helping me and making my life easier and doing things for me. 0.83

05:42:01.760 Oh, God.

05:42:02.100 Oh, my God. 1.00

05:42:02.620 I fucking dislike her more now. 1.00

05:42:04.440 This is terrible. 1.00

05:42:04.920 I mean, argue that she's just being fully insane. 0.71

05:42:06.900 Brian, how could this have happened?

05:42:08.640 Oh, help. 0.99

05:42:10.080 The terror.

05:42:10.720 I just mean like imposing too quickly on personal duties in their household. 0.96

05:42:15.520 Yeah, if you like go in and you're like, hey, I brought all my shit and I'm going up 0.90

05:42:18.800 to the master bedroom now.

05:42:20.140 Yeah, sure.

05:42:20.960 But like, hey, I'm going to make some dinner for us.

05:42:24.860 And by the way, hang on, hang on, hang on.

05:42:26.480 And by the way, I did a little bit of laundry. 1.00

05:42:28.440 It's like, oh, my God, you fucking insane. 1.00

05:42:31.340 Well, get the fuck out of here, you crazy broad. 1.00

05:42:33.500 Who the fuck is going to say that? 1.00

05:42:34.640 Nobody's going to say that. 0.99

05:42:35.560 I will say there's been a guy that I've dated that was like freaked out by that.

05:42:40.700 And I realized like a couple of weeks in that he was just not a good guy.

05:42:44.300 So it's just not the guys that you're that it's called women like me want to look for.

05:42:49.240 So that are going to be freaked out by that.

05:42:52.280 But this stemmed different attachment styles.

05:42:56.560 They're describing the whole avoid an attachment style, which is once somebody tries to get

05:43:01.380 closer to you, that actually freaks the person out.

05:43:04.120 And then they find.

05:43:05.560 Yeah.

05:43:05.660 If it moves, if it moves too quickly, sure.

05:43:08.600 I'm more just men on a first day.

05:43:09.940 Men and women.

05:43:10.880 Yeah.

05:43:11.140 But you're talking about moving.

05:43:12.560 You're talking about moving something too quickly.

05:43:14.800 I get that.

05:43:15.560 I get the like, I'm just going to live here now after two weeks.

05:43:18.420 That's a problem.

05:43:19.380 Yeah.

05:43:19.680 But if you're talking about just going and doing basic things like, hey, I'll cook.

05:43:23.420 I'll assist with the cleaning.

05:43:24.680 I'll do this and that because we're dating.

05:43:26.540 You know what I mean?

05:43:27.520 That doesn't seem like you're moving that quickly.

05:43:29.880 On a first day.

05:43:30.620 Doing someone's laundry is intimate.

05:43:32.460 You might not argue.

05:43:33.740 I would argue doing someone's laundry is very intimate, actually.

05:43:36.420 It is.

05:43:36.860 Okay.

05:43:37.160 But I think what you guys are forgetting here is this. 0.97

05:43:40.420 What the fuck is intimate about it? 0.98

05:43:41.820 Your underwear? 0.99

05:43:42.920 Your little skid marks?

05:43:43.480 Do you want me to see your skid marks?

05:43:45.100 Your little skid marks?

05:43:45.380 Put the jeans in there.

05:43:47.320 Do you have a problem with skid marks? 0.99

05:43:49.300 Like, what the fuck are you talking about? 0.99

05:43:50.980 Do you have a problem with that? 1.00

05:43:51.760 Do you have a problem with that?

05:43:53.020 Like, what do you mean?

05:43:53.760 Do you want to like pull?

05:43:55.080 No, I don't have a problem.

05:43:56.240 But like.

05:43:56.440 Well, no.

05:43:56.800 I'm saying you seem like you have skid marks or something.

05:43:59.300 I don't know.

05:43:59.460 I'm talking about doing a man's laundry. 0.99

05:44:01.240 But also, yeah.

05:44:02.020 I don't.

05:44:02.760 I wouldn't want a man going through my crusty underwear.

05:44:05.000 Okay.

05:44:05.480 But that's you.

05:44:06.220 And washing it.

05:44:06.600 Well, yeah.

05:44:07.460 For obvious reasons.

05:44:08.560 I know men that would be kind of embarrassed about it, too.

05:44:12.280 They'd grab the underwear out of my hand. 0.99

05:44:13.740 They'd be like.

05:44:14.400 No, don't get.

05:44:15.660 Don't touch that.

05:44:16.660 And to be fair, since my boyfriend and I aren't living together, he does.

05:44:20.740 When he visits, he flies in sometimes.

05:44:22.700 And so he does do laundry at my place.

05:44:25.000 And we do it together.

05:44:25.980 We put our stuff together.

05:44:27.400 Take it to the thing.

05:44:28.440 Come back.

05:44:29.280 But this originate together.

05:44:30.980 Let me talk, please.

05:44:32.620 It's so, you know.

05:44:33.500 Go ahead.

05:44:34.780 This originated from my standard.

05:44:38.460 Yes.

05:44:39.380 My position.

05:44:40.380 My position is this is what I want.

05:44:44.520 I understand some men don't want that or they don't even care about it.

05:44:48.440 Some men might even find it objectionable or they might even dislike it.

05:44:52.200 Sure.

05:44:52.380 There's no dispute there.

05:44:54.020 But your contention is with my own experience.

05:44:58.660 You want to contend with you almost want to be like, Brian, you don't actually want that.

05:45:03.660 You don't truly want that. 0.89

05:45:05.840 And that's just ridiculous because I'm presenting to you.

05:45:09.160 Like, how can I say, how can we have a productive conversation where I'm actually telling you, Brian, what do you like?

05:45:14.620 And I say, oh, I like chocolate ice cream. 1.00

05:45:17.260 And you're like, nah, motherfucker. 1.00

05:45:18.580 You like vanilla ice cream. 1.00

05:45:20.220 Okay.

05:45:20.800 Well, I don't know what else to tell you.

05:45:23.340 Sure.

05:45:23.720 Like, I don't know what else to tell you.

05:45:25.120 I can accept it, but, well, I can publicly accept it.

05:45:28.900 So do you think I'm lying?

05:45:30.260 No, but personally, I don't believe that to be the case because you're, I don't know how old you are.

05:45:35.340 36.

05:45:36.020 36.

05:45:36.580 Because you're not married and usually men at that age are married.

05:45:40.280 This is an incoherent argument.

05:45:42.000 It means you would have found a woman by now.

05:45:43.900 Well, this is, wait, wait, wait.

05:45:44.660 It goes back to her.

05:45:46.080 It goes back to her.

05:45:47.920 So you've done vetting since you're, stop.

05:45:51.000 Yes.

05:45:51.300 No, she, she was married, divorced, now a man, but not married.

05:45:55.380 Her position is I'm not married, therefore I'm wrong.

05:45:58.160 She's not married, therefore she's wrong. 0.96

05:45:59.800 In fact, she's a, she's divorced. 0.98

05:46:01.720 It didn't, well, it didn't work with the guy you're with.

05:46:03.840 Your argument is incoherent.

05:46:05.680 For the same reasons, actually, funny enough, that we're talking about right now.

05:46:09.780 It's, no, it's a lot, it's completely fallacious.

05:46:12.020 Because there was no, you know, there was no cheating involved or anything like that.

05:46:14.820 Wait, wait, wait, wait.

05:46:14.980 But there was a lot of imbalance in household activities and competency and, you know, can

05:46:21.900 you do the household activities while we were two adults that were.

05:46:24.620 Do you have, do you have autism?

05:46:25.440 I'm not, wait, wait, wait, wait, really quick.

05:46:27.280 I do not.

05:46:27.900 I'm autistic.

05:46:28.800 No.

05:46:29.340 And I feel like you might be a little autistic, okay? 1.00

05:46:31.420 Nope.

05:46:31.880 You might be a little bit, you know, social cues, but.

05:46:34.520 Nope, not against anybody.

05:46:36.200 So it's completely fallacious.

05:46:38.040 Like, let me ask, do you like tall men?

05:46:39.820 Uh, I mean, I've dated men that, so my standard is as long as they're as tall as me or taller.

05:46:47.360 That's, that's my standard.

05:46:48.240 And of all the men that you've dated, have they been as taller, as tall as you or taller?

05:46:53.300 Yes. 0.98

05:46:53.880 Whoa, that's, but it's not worked out with fucking any of them. 0.99

05:46:56.900 That must mean. 0.99

05:46:57.800 It's working out great.

05:46:58.640 Stop, stop, stop, stop.

05:47:00.680 It must mean that your stated preference is actually incorrect.

05:47:03.640 And it actually, uh, it seems like it's counter to what you're actually, uh, pushing towards.

05:47:08.440 Like, it's totally incoherent.

05:47:09.940 This idea of like, oh, well, your stated preference must not actually be, uh, must not be accurate

05:47:16.160 because it would have worked out.

05:47:17.860 It's so, so what I'm talking about here is that this is a generally held position while

05:47:22.520 yours isn't.

05:47:23.700 Your position of having a woman come over and.

05:47:26.980 Generally held by who?

05:47:27.860 And, you know, help or do their laundry on the first time that they come over is not

05:47:32.700 a position held by most men. 1.00

05:47:34.420 Well, most men are happy to just get a little bit of pussy. 1.00

05:47:36.960 However, I actually have some standards. 0.99

05:47:39.280 I have a, uh, I, I want women to act and behave in a certain amount, a certain way. 1.00

05:47:44.320 So perhaps this is unique to you as a woman to hear because you probably run over and bulldoze 1.00

05:47:49.640 all the men you're with, but yeah, men do actually have standards talking about assumptions.

05:47:54.260 Well, it seems like you're, you're combating this idea that men are allowed to have preferences,

05:47:58.940 standards, and boundaries because men, men often, anytime a man says, I want this, here's

05:48:04.180 my preference, here's my boundary, here's my standard.

05:48:06.320 It's always, it's almost always pathologized.

05:48:09.140 So, uh, a woman wants a dominant man preference. 0.99

05:48:13.480 A woman, a man wants a submissive woman controlling predatory, blah, blah, blah. 1.00

05:48:18.760 Anytime a man.

05:48:19.380 I disagree with that.

05:48:19.980 I disagree with that.

05:48:20.980 I think everybody should have their preferences.

05:48:22.880 I'm just talking about this one single thing, which I find weird.

05:48:25.700 And most people do, uh, okay.

05:48:28.320 You find it weird that that's great, but I'm not really hearing an actual argument.

05:48:32.460 The argument is that the person would not value themselves highly to do that kind of

05:48:37.720 stuff on.

05:48:38.320 So, so you think the, the women who I would date, who would be inclined to do this, they

05:48:44.860 are what?

05:48:46.300 They aren't as self-assured as there we go.

05:48:49.000 Lesser than new way.

05:48:50.060 No, yeah, literally.

05:48:51.860 So are you more self-assured than those women? 0.93

05:48:55.700 No, everyone has strengths and weaknesses.

05:48:57.840 No, I didn't say selfish.

05:48:58.920 I said, are you more self-assured than those women? 1.00

05:49:01.860 Self-assured?

05:49:02.240 Than those women.

05:49:03.140 Than women that come over and do your laundry. 1.00

05:49:05.060 Yes.

05:49:05.340 Are you more self-assured than them?

05:49:07.000 Uh, yes.

05:49:07.820 Then they are less self-assured than you?

05:49:10.040 Not than me.

05:49:10.760 I think that they're less. 0.99

05:49:11.500 What the fuck is that? 0.99

05:49:14.200 It's pee and not pee at the same time? 1.00

05:49:16.200 Self-assured is just crazy.

05:49:17.200 I'm trying to compare that to myself.

05:49:19.540 I'm saying that they have less self-assured.

05:49:21.760 Can I ask you a question?

05:49:22.620 Let me ask you a couple questions.

05:49:23.160 Then who?

05:49:24.560 Then hang on.

05:49:25.160 In general.

05:49:25.740 Then women that wouldn't go and do that kind of thing. 1.00

05:49:28.140 And would you do that?

05:49:29.460 I personally would not.

05:49:31.000 So then they're less self-assured than you.

05:49:33.660 Yeah.

05:49:34.340 Sure.

05:49:34.860 So then they're less than you, right?

05:49:37.140 In that one aspect, that's not less than you.

05:49:40.160 You're going to lose that one.

05:49:42.200 I'm going to lose that one.

05:49:42.700 I'm going to lose that one.

05:49:42.720 I'm going to lose that one.

05:49:42.940 Time's bit.

05:49:43.500 It's a little bit.

05:49:44.040 It's a little bit.

05:49:44.340 The blondie Femcom is making a very compelling case for being more unlikable than NSE. 1.00

05:49:50.000 Please don't have her back.

05:49:51.780 If it weren't for Andrew, this episode would be unwatchable BC of her.

05:49:57.060 Unknown soldier.

05:49:57.840 Thank you very much for the two to ask.

05:49:59.400 Thanks for that.

05:49:59.440 The ratings would say otherwise.

05:49:59.780 Can I ask you a question?

05:50:00.640 Do you think...

05:50:01.580 Those are all for me.

05:50:03.020 Sure.

05:50:03.780 Wait, you're sure?

05:50:05.080 Do you know what I average?

05:50:07.120 I don't.

05:50:08.000 Yeah.

05:50:08.280 What do you average on your show?

05:50:10.540 This isn't my...

05:50:11.600 Hang on.

05:50:11.980 What do you average on your show?

05:50:13.240 I don't do...

05:50:14.180 So what do you average on your show?

05:50:16.420 Yes.

05:50:16.820 It's a very niche thing.

05:50:18.500 So nothing?

05:50:19.580 No.

05:50:19.960 Yeah.

05:50:20.680 Andrew's the bigger draw than you.

05:50:22.080 Yeah.

05:50:22.100 Come on.

05:50:22.500 Andrew's the bigger draw than you.

05:50:23.520 Absolutely.

05:50:24.300 But just by logic, my target is Latino. 0.99

05:50:26.700 So that already decreases the U.S. population to the people that I actually...

05:50:31.900 You mean...

05:50:32.480 What are you talking about?

05:50:33.760 That's a huge segment of the U.S. population.

05:50:36.900 But even if I communicated to every single one and I wish that I did, then I would still

05:50:41.920 never have anything close to what you average and views.

05:50:45.280 Yeah.

05:50:45.460 But what she just said is in ratings, yes.

05:50:47.900 It's like, no, it has nothing to do...

05:50:49.120 The ratings have nothing to do with you.

05:50:50.320 I'm not saying ratings.

05:50:51.140 I'm just saying live viewers.

05:50:52.780 The live viewers is not because of you.

05:50:55.040 It's because of me.

05:50:55.780 I've never said that, by the way.

05:50:57.720 But I think it's because we're having engaging conversations.

05:50:59.340 Wait, wait, wait.

05:51:00.040 Okay.

05:51:00.580 I'm going to try to bring it back to the panel here in just a moment.

05:51:03.960 Final thing for you.

05:51:05.140 Yes.

05:51:06.140 Do you have an expectation?

05:51:08.520 Should a man be... 0.91

05:51:10.900 I'm trying to think how I want to frame this.

05:51:16.080 Do you think a man should be a protector?

05:51:20.320 Define protect from what?

05:51:21.620 Be willing to sacrifice his life for you, to protect you.

05:51:25.780 Yes, but I would do the same for them.

05:51:28.540 You won't even do their laundry.

05:51:30.480 How about this?

05:51:31.120 She said on the first date.

05:51:32.420 Hold on.

05:51:32.760 On the first date, she wouldn't do their laundry. 0.59

05:51:34.240 Sometimes after that.

05:51:35.240 I can test this super easily.

05:51:37.240 You are on a boat that is sinking.

05:51:39.960 It's just you and your husband.

05:51:42.140 There's one life preserver.

05:51:44.120 Now, there are no loopholes for other means of survival.

05:51:47.960 One of you has to die.

05:51:49.540 The boat is sinking. 1.00

05:51:51.160 No, no, no.

05:51:51.500 Not who would probably.

05:51:53.020 Who should be, from your perspective, who should take or who should be given the life

05:51:59.280 preserver to survive?

05:52:01.180 I'm the kind of person that they would probably off themselves before I tried to both of us

05:52:07.980 go down and try to be on that boat.

05:52:09.440 No, but who...

05:52:10.180 Okay, how about this?

05:52:10.900 Let me change it.

05:52:11.480 Wait, wait.

05:52:12.200 Stop, stop, stop, stop.

05:52:13.280 Kate Winston and brought up Jack on top of the door kind of situation. 1.00

05:52:17.320 Extraneous, irrelevant.

05:52:18.020 Yeah.

05:52:18.520 Okay. 0.99

05:52:18.960 And if we both die, then we both die. 0.98

05:52:20.700 Immaterial.

05:52:21.520 So, okay, I'll change the scenario.

05:52:23.820 You are an observer.

05:52:25.500 There's like a drone observing a sinking boat and you have the live camera feed to it and

05:52:32.140 you see a married couple on the sinking boat.

05:52:34.840 There's one life jacket.

05:52:36.020 Only one person gets to survive.

05:52:37.580 There are no loopholes.

05:52:38.540 Who would you judge more harshly for like taking the life jacket, the man or the woman?

05:52:45.320 I don't know.

05:52:45.680 I'd drop the life jacket and let them choose their own. 0.68

05:52:49.200 I have a perfect question for this, Andrew.

05:52:50.920 How would you feel if you didn't have breakfast this morning?

05:52:54.340 Lighter.

05:52:55.380 Lighter?

05:52:56.160 Yeah.

05:52:56.580 You'd feel lighter.

05:52:57.920 That's...

05:52:58.480 Is that an acceptable...

05:53:00.060 True.

05:53:00.500 I guess we'll...

05:53:01.040 Yeah.

05:53:01.940 Do you know what the hypothetical question is?

05:53:03.880 Yes, I do.

05:53:04.000 Or are you just intentionally being bad faith?

05:53:05.820 No.

05:53:05.980 So answer the hypothetical.

05:53:07.720 The hypothetical?

05:53:08.340 You would drop the non-existent life preserver that I didn't grant was on the drone?

05:53:12.640 No, no, no.

05:53:12.920 Wow, great.

05:53:13.600 I said drop if they're in the water, right?

05:53:15.740 That's what I understood.

05:53:17.300 And they're both...

05:53:17.940 Would you remember the part where I said no loopholes?

05:53:20.440 No, I'm answering it.

05:53:22.020 If they're both floating in the water and I have a drone to drop the lifeboat, I'm going

05:53:26.260 to drop the... 1.00

05:53:27.020 What the fuck are you talking about? 1.00

05:53:30.300 She's actually cooked. 1.00

05:53:31.100 What are you fucking talking about? 1.00

05:53:32.540 She's actually fucking cooked. 1.00

05:53:33.160 None of that had anything to do with what he just said. 0.99

05:53:35.020 Yes, it did.

05:53:35.960 Unless I...

05:53:36.120 She can't engage with hypothetical.

05:53:37.240 There's no lifeboat being dropped.

05:53:39.800 Not lifeboat, though.

05:53:40.660 There's no life jacket being dropped.

05:53:42.540 None of that's been wrong.

05:53:43.300 That's what I understood.

05:53:43.900 Were you listening?

05:53:44.780 Were your ears open when I explained the hypothetical?

05:53:47.560 You had two.

05:53:48.300 The first one didn't work.

05:53:49.360 Can I ask the women here? 1.00

05:53:50.360 Sure.

05:53:50.760 Did y'all get the hypothetical?

05:53:52.260 Yes.

05:53:52.500 Did y'all understand?

05:53:53.700 Is she wrong about that?

05:53:56.160 Like, is she not understanding the hypothetical?

05:53:58.200 She's adding extra stuff that was never...

05:54:00.980 I think she's avoiding the question.

05:54:03.500 I think it might be easier if we did it in Spanish.

05:54:06.360 Maybe that's more like...

05:54:07.200 I don't know.

05:54:07.880 The person on the ground don't need to go.

05:54:10.200 Donde esta la biblioteca? 1.00

05:54:13.780 What the fuck? 0.98

05:54:14.420 I think knowing various languages actually levels up your... 1.00

05:54:19.720 Irrelevant.

05:54:20.340 Irrelevant.

05:54:21.420 Irrelevant.

05:54:22.380 Irrelevant.

05:54:23.080 Okay.

05:54:23.480 Just with your jelly.

05:54:24.940 Don't, you know...

05:54:25.400 Don't hate on it.

05:54:27.220 But what I understood, so maybe I did misunderstand, is I have a drone that's going to drop a lifeboat

05:54:34.020 on a cup.

05:54:34.640 No, dude.

05:54:35.340 No.

05:54:36.440 And they're going to take it for themselves.

05:54:37.940 Oh, my God.

05:54:38.560 How about this?

05:54:39.320 Oh, my God.

05:54:39.780 Well, because that's the first question, that's related to the first question you asked, is

05:54:44.020 there's two people in the water.

05:54:45.060 Just, just, you're watching a boat.

05:54:47.600 Okay.

05:54:47.940 Wait, wait, wait.

05:54:48.380 Let me do it differently.

05:54:49.040 Just watching.

05:54:49.740 Okay.

05:54:50.080 Hold on.

05:54:50.700 Here we go.

05:54:51.240 On a drone.

05:54:51.640 You're on an island, and you have a, you have a pirate, what is it called?

05:54:56.820 A spyglass?

05:54:58.440 Telescope.

05:54:58.840 Telescope or whatever.

05:54:59.360 No, what's it called, though?

05:55:00.300 The eyeglass.

05:55:01.380 Telescope.

05:55:01.800 It's a telescope.

05:55:02.360 Okay.

05:55:02.720 And you have no means of intervening in this sinking ship.

05:55:06.420 Gotcha.

05:55:06.580 There's a boat.

05:55:07.360 There's one life preserver on the boat.

05:55:09.060 So, the water's freezing.

05:55:11.380 Well, hold on.

05:55:12.040 Let me get rid of the water's freezing.

05:55:14.180 Just in the hypothetical, it's granted that only one person can survive.

05:55:17.960 Only one person can take the life preserver.

05:55:20.120 Yeah.

05:55:20.340 Who would you judge, I guess, more harshly, and it's a married couple.

05:55:25.240 Yeah.

05:55:25.340 Who would you judge more harshly as a witness to this dilemma?

05:55:29.820 I don't know because I wouldn't know their background situation.

05:55:32.660 What if one of them has terminal cancer, and so it's better that, you know, the husband

05:55:36.980 survive?

05:55:37.280 Are you just intentionally being like bad faith?

05:55:38.800 No, I'm not.

05:55:39.140 Can I answer the question?

05:55:40.140 Are you actually this dance?

05:55:41.620 I'm trying to.

05:55:42.080 Do you want to ask that to other people?

05:55:43.540 I'm trying to cross the point that I believe men and women have equal value.

05:55:47.320 So, you don't know.

05:55:48.500 You don't know.

05:55:49.300 How are you going to cross my point that I would sacrifice those?

05:55:51.380 How are you going to ask?

05:55:52.200 Hang on.

05:55:52.220 Hang on.

05:55:52.260 Actually, I think that that's fair within the confines of that.

05:55:55.580 I'm going to give a different one.

05:55:56.860 So, there's a man and a woman, right?

05:55:59.860 They're strangers to each other.

05:56:01.480 They're walking by a burning building, and you're on a CCTV camera.

05:56:06.200 Who would you judge more harshly if there was kids screaming inside if they didn't run in?

05:56:11.580 Who would you?

05:56:12.080 Those kids have terrible little kids.

05:56:13.640 The kids are inside.

05:56:15.160 They're screaming for help.

05:56:16.080 But they're screaming because there's balloons, and they're happy.

05:56:17.920 Who would you judge?

05:56:18.700 Hang on.

05:56:19.280 Hang on.

05:56:19.600 Hang on.

05:56:19.880 Hang on.

05:56:20.680 Hang on.

05:56:21.240 Who would you judge more harshly for not running into the building and grabbing the kids?

05:56:26.060 I would probably, if they're, again, I'm not everybody, right?

05:56:31.900 If they're both adults, they should run in and save the kids.

05:56:35.120 Okay.

05:56:35.440 One.

05:56:35.880 One.

05:56:36.380 One.

05:56:37.200 One.

05:56:38.400 Y'all want her to say men so bad.

05:56:41.100 I know.

05:56:41.760 Just say men.

05:56:42.660 Just go in and save the kid. 1.00

05:56:44.820 Holy shit, bro. 1.00

05:56:46.280 Repeal the 19th, bro. 1.00

05:56:48.240 I get it.

05:56:49.220 I finally got it. 0.56

05:56:49.900 I would say he should nut it.

05:56:51.600 Have you not said that before?

05:56:53.800 Well, I've never said that.

05:56:54.840 He nuts in you real quick, and then you carry it on because you've got a potential baby

05:56:58.620 to carry his legacy.

05:57:00.180 Oh, my gosh. 1.00

05:57:00.800 And you're like, what the fuck, bro? 1.00

05:57:03.060 There's a fire and kids burning in a building. 1.00

05:57:04.860 There's two adults outside.

05:57:05.360 Men, next question.

05:57:06.760 You're finally on the dark side.

05:57:08.120 Why wouldn't the two of them go in and save the kids?

05:57:10.780 Holy.

05:57:11.220 That's what me and my partner would do if our kids were in a building.

05:57:14.440 I mean, that's fair.

05:57:15.180 You call him a partner.

05:57:16.500 My boyfriend.

05:57:17.240 That's fair, but what's wrong with partner?

05:57:20.480 Yeah, what's wrong with partner?

05:57:21.280 I've never met a conservative, traditional woman that's like, my partner.

05:57:25.180 Well, we're not all conservative, traditional women.

05:57:27.240 She claims to be.

05:57:28.520 That's the thing.

05:57:29.420 She says she's clearly a feminist. 1.00

05:57:32.280 At no point in the rambling, compare it to her.

05:57:36.460 Yeah, they are.

05:57:37.340 A life partner.

05:57:39.140 Partnership.

05:57:39.660 I think you're just upset you can't get me with the gotcha questions.

05:57:52.300 It's not a gotcha.

05:57:53.300 Do you know what a hypothetical is to test logic?

05:57:56.280 Yes.

05:57:56.600 It's not a gotcha.

05:57:57.720 You're trying to argue that I wouldn't sacrifice for my boyfriend.

05:58:04.940 That I wouldn't, you know, lay my life on the line if necessary.

05:58:10.020 And honestly, I'm the kind of person that would do that.

05:58:12.120 Would he let me?

05:58:12.920 No.

05:58:13.980 But I would try. 0.98

05:58:15.700 If your boyfriend was a coward, would you break up with him? 0.99

05:58:19.420 Yes. 0.99

05:58:20.920 If you're a coward, do you think your boyfriend would break up with you? 0.98

05:58:24.720 Yes. 1.00

05:58:26.380 So ridiculous. 0.99

05:58:27.420 You have to under... 0.99

05:58:27.960 Oh, my God.

05:58:28.540 I don't even think it's worth the time explaining it.

05:58:30.440 I'd like to bring in other people because you're just being bad faith. 1.00

05:58:33.240 No.

05:58:33.520 He respects me for not being a coward.

05:58:36.900 What's that quote? 1.00

05:58:37.840 Never argue with stupid people. 1.00

05:58:39.380 They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. 1.00

05:58:42.980 Yes.

05:58:43.260 You had to read that off your laptop.

05:58:45.260 Yeah.

05:58:45.440 I googled the quote.

05:58:46.800 Yeah.

05:58:47.200 But I don't think that...

05:58:48.820 Does it make the quote less true?

05:58:50.300 True.

05:58:50.680 I don't think it applies here, but...

05:58:52.280 It absolutely applies.

05:58:53.780 You refuse to engage with a hypothetical...

05:58:55.820 No, I have.

05:58:56.800 I just don't engage with it in the way that you want me to.

05:58:59.320 I have low self-esteem.

05:59:00.660 I think my boyfriend's a better person than me. 1.00

05:59:03.260 I would let him live and let me die.

05:59:05.700 But that's on the sense of, like, I think he's worth more than me. 0.97

05:59:09.520 You know?

05:59:09.980 I'm sorry you feel that way, honestly.

05:59:11.240 As for me, if he, like, died for me...

05:59:14.400 All right. 1.00

05:59:14.880 I gotta move this shit. 0.99

05:59:15.820 I'm moving it on to something else. 0.99

05:59:17.980 That's crazy.

05:59:19.860 Okay.

05:59:20.380 Here.

05:59:20.700 Let me get to other people's notes here.

05:59:22.220 Oh, my goodness.

05:59:23.020 Oh, my goodness. 0.95

05:59:26.320 Crazy.

05:59:29.480 Okay.

05:59:31.260 Let's see.

05:59:33.160 I'm gonna go to somebody else's notes here.

05:59:36.560 Kayla?

05:59:37.860 Kayla.

05:59:38.460 All right.

05:59:38.680 Let's go to Kayla.

05:59:40.900 You dated your Discord mod.

05:59:42.400 Do you want to tell us the quick story there?

05:59:44.340 A quick version of the story is I had a Discord server with about 50,000 members, and I had

05:59:50.080 a big staff team, and I ended up, I made the Discord when I was, like, living in Ohio

05:59:55.540 and Michigan, and I ended up moving to Florida, and I didn't know anybody there, so I hung

06:00:01.000 out with my Discord mod, and we started dating, and we did it for, like, a year.

06:00:05.720 Cool, I guess.

06:00:11.240 All right.

06:00:12.100 I'm a bit confused, though, in some of your photos that you post online, you do wear a

06:00:15.420 cross, but earlier when asked if you're a Christian, you said that you are spiritual

06:00:20.220 and not, you wouldn't take the label of Christian.

06:00:22.960 Yeah, I wouldn't want to, like, misrepresent Christianity, because I, like, sell bikini photos,

06:00:31.060 and I post bikini photos and stuff, but I would say that that is the religion that aligns

06:00:35.260 the closest to my thought process.

06:00:38.380 Okay.

06:00:39.180 All right.

06:00:40.240 We have Angelique.

06:00:42.260 Sarah.

06:00:43.420 Oh.

06:00:44.140 I mean, I go by Sarah Angelique, so.

06:00:47.280 You're a singer?

06:00:48.660 Yeah.

06:00:49.420 Okay.

06:00:50.100 And you wanted to talk about guys that never want anything serious but still want you around 0.63

06:00:53.400 for sex.

06:00:54.380 I mean, yeah, that is true.

06:00:56.800 I mean, some people, they date, you know, I mean, my longest relationship for two years,

06:01:03.520 way back when I was a lot younger.

06:01:07.040 He kind of always wanted other, like, women around, and I would always be like, why, you 0.92

06:01:11.660 know?

06:01:11.980 So, kind of.

06:01:14.140 Oh, so it wasn't exclusive.

06:01:15.620 It was exclusive.

06:01:16.640 But you said he wanted other women around?

06:01:18.640 Yeah, like, my friends and, like, just people to go out with and just so he could look good

06:01:23.680 having other, lots of women around him.

06:01:26.840 Oh.

06:01:27.640 But he wasn't dating or sleeping with them?

06:01:29.980 I was dating him, yeah.

06:01:31.460 No, but he wasn't.

06:01:32.360 Exclusively.

06:01:32.860 Yeah, but he wasn't with the other women.

06:01:34.280 Oh.

06:01:34.680 But he would want them.

06:01:35.940 Okay.

06:01:36.180 But tell me that he would want them around.

06:01:38.280 All right.

06:01:38.820 I see.

06:01:39.780 Going to Ella, right?

06:01:43.720 Mm-hmm.

06:01:44.060 Ella.

06:01:44.840 You're a conservative libertarian.

06:01:49.340 You grew up as a leftist in California.

06:01:52.040 Mm-hmm.

06:01:52.240 So, really quick, just if you can, with a quick answer, what did you used to believe

06:01:57.260 and what do you believe now?

06:01:59.520 Okay.

06:02:00.700 I used to be pro-choice, used to be very, and this was all, like, way, way back in the

06:02:09.720 day, you know, I was politically oriented at 11 years old, which is a fun thing for a

06:02:14.440 child to be into.

06:02:15.180 Um, and really into LGBT, whatnots, um, and I just generally, I guess, had different values

06:02:27.120 in that sense.

06:02:28.800 Um, and I was also vegetarian.

06:02:32.240 I became vegetarian at eight years old after seeing some videos of PETA online.

06:02:36.940 And I was like, no, the animals.

06:02:38.800 Um, but no, I, I eat meat every day, usually three times a day.

06:02:44.100 So, you know, that is a change and a difference.

06:02:47.960 Um, and yeah, nowadays, I guess I just have different perspectives.

06:02:52.000 A lot of that was triggered by COVID.

06:02:56.860 You know, being a young woman, COVID happened when I was 15, and then I got a lot more exposure.

06:03:01.640 Um, I listened to the Unabomber Manifesto at 15, and that really got my brain moving.

06:03:12.120 I'm guessing you're familiar.

06:03:14.140 I mean, I, I've seen documentaries on the Unabomber, but I, I have not read his manifesto, so I'm

06:03:20.020 not aware of the contents.

06:03:21.500 It's an environmental extremist that would, yeah.

06:03:24.800 Yeah, I mean, he was, you could say he's an environmentalist extremist, um, but he had

06:03:29.260 a lot of views just about society as a whole, about, uh, leftism as well, being a lot more

06:03:35.700 racist, being a lot more essentially of bigots.

06:03:39.980 Um, and he wrote a lot about that and also mostly about the industrial revolution and

06:03:45.560 its consequences.

06:03:46.480 So, ranging from everything for how the world is the way it is today.

06:03:51.640 Okay.

06:03:52.400 Uh, you wrote that you were exposed to a lot of LGBT and feminist propaganda, but then yes,

06:03:57.160 during COVID you woke up, you did not get vaccinated.

06:04:00.520 You started learning the truth about the world.

06:04:02.180 You have a good perspective because you understand both sides of the coin, why women are drawn 1.00

06:04:06.720 to sex work and how it harms them.

06:04:08.940 Um, you've had two boyfriends, both of which have been long-term serious relationships.

06:04:13.860 The biggest problem with both of them was cowardice. 0.98

06:04:16.320 Uh, your last boyfriend was a world of Warcraft and, uh, addict and a porn addict.

06:04:22.440 Uh, and you, because you were unsupportive of this lifestyle, he ended your nearly three-year

06:04:28.520 relationship.

06:04:29.780 Yeah.

06:04:30.000 I mean, it was a accumulation of, of quite a few things, but at the end of the day, it

06:04:34.640 was really frustrating to him.

06:04:37.460 I know that I wanted him to play video games less and I also didn't want him watching porn.

06:04:43.300 Okay.

06:04:43.580 And, uh, you, I mean, I, I think that that's super valid.

06:04:49.920 Um, he played, I actually, I, uh, I briefly had a stint with world of Warcraft when I was

06:04:56.920 younger and then I played it again, like back in 2019.

06:05:00.320 It is, it is an addicting game.

06:05:02.220 Uh, and it's a game you can't just play for an hour.

06:05:04.460 You typically play it 10 hours a day, you know?

06:05:07.300 Yeah.

06:05:07.520 Uh, but I, I stopped playing video games and a long time ago, but, uh, I do understand

06:05:13.260 the addictive component of, uh, the video game, but, uh, was it the entire course of

06:05:19.300 your relationship?

06:05:21.220 Um, no, it wasn't the entire course of our relationship during the beginning.

06:05:25.120 It was a lot easier.

06:05:26.360 Um, but the majority of our relationship, he was actually unemployed and that's when world

06:05:31.380 of Warcraft really took over.

06:05:32.580 Uh, but he was very good at finances, um, because he's a, a crypto bro and he made enough

06:05:38.840 money.

06:05:39.080 He was like, you know what?

06:05:39.860 I'm going to retire for a little while and just kind of do my own thing video games.

06:05:43.960 Was he a classic Andy or did he play retail world of Warcraft?

06:05:48.320 I don't know.

06:05:49.120 Frankly, I, yeah, I didn't really ask him too many questions about it.

06:05:52.980 Was he hoard or Alliance?

06:05:54.960 Again, I, I really don't know.

06:05:56.680 I wasn't, you didn't even ask your boyfriend about the video.

06:05:58.620 Okay. 0.94

06:05:58.940 Uh, but he was also a porn addict. 0.98

06:06:00.560 Yeah, I mentioned I'll watch porn in, uh, relationships. 0.96

06:06:03.380 Totally agree. 0.56

06:06:04.420 Uh, or I guess, period.

06:06:06.040 Um, you also said your boyfriend before him, I guess a different boyfriend grew up without

06:06:12.920 a father, subsequently dealt with a lot of problems.

06:06:15.400 You broke up with him because you were being cackled and sexually harassed by a group of

06:06:19.840 strangers and he hid from them, leaving you alone and pretending not to know you.

06:06:24.520 So they wouldn't say anything to him.

06:06:26.680 But can you be specific as to exactly, um, by the way, just men should not be catcalling

06:06:33.140 or, uh, you know, being whatever in the streets, but, uh, can you be specific as to exactly what

06:06:38.540 this group of men were doing?

06:06:40.380 Yes.

06:06:40.820 So we were at, uh, a concert and I wouldn't say I was, you know, necessarily so scantily

06:06:48.140 glad.

06:06:48.480 I was wearing a shirt comparable to this and then a skirt that was shorter.

06:06:52.640 Okay.

06:06:52.960 Um, and I was at the concert and I remember we were waiting for the band to get on stage

06:06:58.600 and I was stretching.

06:06:59.420 I was like going down to the ground and touching my toes.

06:07:02.580 And then it started, it was a group of about five guys, two of which were in a wheelchair,

06:07:07.960 interestingly enough.

06:07:09.600 Um, and they just started hollering all these really, um, vulgar things of sexual acts they

06:07:17.160 wanted me to do to them involving stretching and whatnot.

06:07:21.400 Okay.

06:07:22.140 Um, and, and, but did they, they didn't like grope or touch you?

06:07:26.900 No, but they were pretty close to me.

06:07:28.560 I mean, they were about as, as close to me as you are to me now.

06:07:31.740 So just very uncomfortable.

06:07:33.160 Yeah.

06:07:33.540 Yeah.

06:07:33.820 Very uncomfortable.

06:07:34.840 And they were saying inappropriate things.

06:07:36.400 I looked up and I like looked around me and my boyfriend had just gone into the crowd.

06:07:42.340 He had gone away and I asked him about that.

06:07:44.080 I was like, Hey, did you hear that?

06:07:45.140 Like, you remember when those guys were yelling this crazy stuff?

06:07:47.620 He was like, Oh yeah.

06:07:48.700 You know, I, I had to get out of there.

06:07:49.900 I didn't want them to yell at me too.

06:07:51.580 Wait, a question.

06:07:52.980 And how many guys were, were doing this?

06:07:55.940 Were doing the cat calling?

06:07:57.620 Uh, there was about four or five.

06:07:59.960 And it was just you and your boyfriend?

06:08:01.840 No, it's me, my boyfriend and his friend.

06:08:04.840 Male friend or female friend? 0.65

06:08:06.200 Male.

06:08:07.220 I see.

06:08:08.280 And were these guys, uh, intimidating at all?

06:08:12.380 Were they, did they appear violent or anything like that?

06:08:16.960 Not necessarily.

06:08:18.080 I mean, I remember it made me really uncomfortable, but they were just kind of like hollering from

06:08:22.820 a distance.

06:08:23.460 They weren't like coming up closer to me, but naturally the fact that then.

06:08:28.480 What, what would have been the ideal, uh, way in which your boyfriend in that moment,

06:08:32.880 uh, could have acted or should have acted?

06:08:35.800 I think probably just took me from the hand and like.

06:08:38.780 Led you away.

06:08:39.320 Yeah, led me away from the situation because ultimately like if you have a bunch of guys

06:08:44.420 that are kind of doing that, you know, they're probably drunk. 0.94

06:08:48.200 You could yell at them like, Hey, don't be a dick, but you don't need to like go in and 0.98

06:08:53.000 throw some punches because you know, what's that really going to achieve? 0.99

06:08:56.220 Well, I mean, um, I think the, uh, your, your boyfriend and he was outnumbered.

06:09:03.860 He should have led you away in the situation confronting them probably would have led to

06:09:08.980 an escalation that given the numbers, sometimes in a, you got to be pragmatic, unless your 0.95

06:09:15.320 boyfriend's like a fucking MMA fighter, but important to not even wheelchairs, but even 0.93

06:09:19.480 then wheelchairs, you can push them out. 0.99

06:09:21.880 Yeah.

06:09:22.380 Oh, two were in wheelchairs.

06:09:23.320 We're all like older, older, like unfit gentlemen.

06:09:29.440 Yeah.

06:09:29.960 Well, he, he, he, he's got around you to like back that up as well.

06:09:33.460 Well, what, what he did was, uh, he was, that was completely wrong.

06:09:37.520 He should have grabbed your hands, grabbed your arm, led you away, got you out of the

06:09:42.160 situation. 1.00

06:09:43.300 Uh, some, some people might say, Oh, you should probably whoop some ass. 1.00

06:09:46.520 Um, I, but given the, the numbers, it's a little risky. 0.99

06:09:52.140 Um, yeah, the guys deserve a smack in the face, but if the odds are against you, well,

06:09:59.380 that would be an escalation. 0.94

06:10:00.460 I think the best thing is just like extract yourself from, from the scenario.

06:10:05.760 Now say it's one guy and you're the boyfriend and you're doing an assessment.

06:10:11.920 Like maybe the guy needs a bit of a smack, but in any case, I think bare minimum, you

06:10:18.560 gotta, you gotta remove your girl from the situation. 0.99

06:10:20.920 Um, if he did, they would get kicked out though.

06:10:22.960 So I don't think this was a big deal for you though, because, uh, you said he was being 0.69

06:10:27.280 a coward. 0.75

06:10:27.860 Essentially. 0.99

06:10:28.600 He walked away from you when it happened.

06:10:31.500 Um, you lean your head back a little bit.

06:10:33.820 Yeah.

06:10:34.780 Uh, and so this isn't true.

06:10:39.180 We're not going to linger on it too long just for the sake of time.

06:10:41.420 But I do think that there's a sort of asymmetry here when it comes to, um, expectations and

06:10:48.460 it's like women do have an expectation that men, uh, like to be a coward, you might say

06:10:58.060 it could be, I don't want to frame this properly.

06:11:02.720 Here's how I'd frame it.

06:11:03.700 Uh, cowardice in men is going to be massively negative, negatively appraised by women, but

06:11:09.800 like cowardice in women, that's not going to really majorly like depends exactly what 0.79

06:11:16.580 we're talking about. 0.98

06:11:17.380 But in the same situation, like let's say there's four girls like fucking with me and 1.00

06:11:22.860 my girlfriend kind of was like, is hesitant to like tell, you know, she either doesn't 0.99

06:11:28.520 say shut the fuck up or she kind of like, I'd be in there screaming. 1.00

06:11:32.080 Well, but it's understandable that they don't, they're not judged harshly for it. 1.00

06:11:36.780 I wouldn't, yeah, I wouldn't judge a girlfriend if she didn't like start fucking or even if 1.00

06:11:42.120 it was like, say there's not a number thing. 0.99

06:11:44.600 Let's just say it's like one girl talking shit to me and my girlfriend's with me. 0.99

06:11:48.720 Like, I'm not going to like look at my girlfriend and be like, well, aren't you going to go 1.00

06:11:52.620 give her a smack in the face? 1.00

06:11:54.100 I'm going to be like, nah, let's just get out of this.

06:11:56.240 Like, I wouldn't be negatively assessing her for her inaction or lack of action in that

06:12:03.660 situation.

06:12:05.580 That can be protective in its own way.

06:12:08.260 Deescalation and just like, it's not necessarily avoiding, but also like protecting yourself,

06:12:13.660 protecting your energy and, you know, fighting violence isn't always the answer, especially

06:12:19.340 if like you're outnumbered.

06:12:21.260 I agree, but what we're talking about is there is a bit of an asymmetry here on the specific

06:12:25.280 issue in the sense, cause it came up earlier when she was talking about cowardice and yeah,

06:12:30.200 it's like, oh, she would sacrifice for her boyfriend.

06:12:33.020 Well, even if that's true, even if that is the case, even if the woman would take the boy,

06:12:37.380 the bullet for the man, men typically don't have the expectation that women do that thing.

06:12:42.960 So if, if you are willing to take the bullet for your boyfriend, I mean, I guess good

06:12:48.260 for him that that's sort of, um, perhaps honorable in a masculine sort of way, I guess. 0.98

06:12:55.620 I would, but I wouldn't want to have sex with him after, you know what I'm saying? 0.99

06:12:58.960 Well, yeah, you got a bullet. 0.98

06:13:00.860 But you saved him so you don't have to.

06:13:02.920 I'll move off of that though, just for sake of time.

06:13:06.480 But you are, Ella, you are against porn, modern feminist culture, online dating, and you're 0.98

06:13:11.220 also against 50, 50 relationships.

06:13:13.060 Is that correct?

06:13:14.260 Yes.

06:13:14.560 Yeah.

06:13:14.840 Now we will skip those first few, but, uh, for the 50, 50 relationships.

06:13:20.420 So you're against 50, 50 relationships.

06:13:24.040 Yes.

06:13:24.580 Yeah.

06:13:24.880 And so what is a 50, 50 relationship?

06:13:26.820 I think ultimately it comes down to, and we've talked about this a lot today, kind of like

06:13:33.980 a tit for tat relationship of really going down to analyze, okay, you do X for me, I do

06:13:41.240 X for you.

06:13:41.920 You know, ideally both people are going to put a hundred percent of their effort and a hundred

06:13:46.120 percent that they can into the relationship.

06:13:48.580 And, you know, naturally that will look different.

06:13:51.940 Um, so I might like non-transactional, yeah, non-transactional, you know, in, in my relationship

06:13:58.420 with my last boyfriend, we lived together and he paid the rent and I did the cooking and the

06:14:04.280 cleaning.

06:14:05.060 Um, but during part of that time, I also went to massage school.

06:14:08.280 So there'd be times when, you know, I'd go off to school and the house wouldn't necessarily

06:14:11.620 be clean or anything.

06:14:12.600 And, you know, he'd clean for me and help when I got home.

06:14:15.580 But then of course, you know, I was practicing massage on him all the time.

06:14:18.860 So he was getting that kind of benefit.

06:14:20.920 That's a pretty good deal.

06:14:21.780 I'm not going to lie.

06:14:22.320 Yeah.

06:14:22.640 I mean, it was a good way that worked for both of us where I was cooking the majority

06:14:26.840 of the meals, including the majority of the time.

06:14:29.180 And he was also paying for the rent and the food and we were living together.

06:14:32.940 That's nice.

06:14:33.800 Um, and he, he definitely would help me out with things.

06:14:36.700 You know, I also had pretty bad menstruation at the time.

06:14:39.800 So he was, he was very mindful of that and of learning the four phases.

06:14:43.040 He did do his, his research into that.

06:14:46.120 Um, but you know, then there's the benefit as well of the things that I would do for

06:14:51.120 him.

06:14:51.320 I often sewed for him and made things for him.

06:14:54.720 Um, and then also massages naturally.

06:14:57.840 You got a table.

06:14:58.460 Okay.

06:14:58.700 I see what you're saying.

06:14:59.680 Yeah.

06:15:00.500 I'm curious on this.

06:15:01.720 This has come up, uh, on a recent show.

06:15:04.600 Um, and we were talking, actually, it was kind of you that set off some of the earlier

06:15:10.460 conversations.

06:15:11.240 We're talking about being submissive.

06:15:13.420 Um, as part of this dynamic, if you reject 50, 50 relationship, I assume you want the 0.99

06:15:18.240 man to take more of a leadership role in the relationship or, or it seems you're a bit

06:15:22.280 negotiable on that.

06:15:23.500 It seemed, seemed like.

06:15:24.720 Yeah, because ultimately, you know, I don't want to speak in a hundred percent because

06:15:30.060 I think that there's ultimately things that we both know better about, especially when

06:15:34.780 it comes to children.

06:15:36.860 For example, like the mothers naturally during the early development years, I mean, it's a 0.99

06:15:43.160 little bit of both because generally women will be a little too overprotective with the 1.00

06:15:47.560 children.

06:15:47.840 And then the fathers are really beneficial because they help expose them to more risks, but the

06:15:52.360 mothers are also more in tune with.

06:15:53.620 Well, yeah, yeah.

06:15:54.740 How about, how about this scenario?

06:15:55.920 Then I'm going to, this is a question for the whole panel.

06:15:58.560 Um, this is something that I've tangled with in my own relationship.

06:16:02.200 So I will actually reveal, uh, some, some details, uh, or not even just relationships, but

06:16:08.540 dating.

06:16:10.120 So it's my preference that, uh, I have, uh, separate bedrooms with whoever I'm dating now

06:16:22.000 this, and even if we're not living together, like let's say, well, let's say I'm in a long

06:16:26.720 distance relationship and my girlfriend comes to visit me for a week.

06:16:30.180 I prefer to sleep in my own space, my bedroom, and I have a guest room for her. 0.97

06:16:36.520 It's not like, okay, go sleep in the tent outside.

06:16:40.480 She's got a cozy little space.

06:16:42.060 She's got her own place. 0.99

06:16:42.960 Because I've had some women, not a problem at all. 1.00

06:16:46.620 Yes, Brian, totally fine.

06:16:47.820 Not an issue.

06:16:49.080 Other women have given me substantial pushback on this. 1.00

06:16:53.560 Substantial pushback.

06:16:55.080 Uh, they nag, they argue, they throw a hissy fit.

06:16:58.360 They, they crash out.

06:16:59.920 Uh, they, they get upset.

06:17:01.600 They nag. 1.00

06:17:02.140 Um, so I'm curious to you guys, uh, I'm sure some of you guys maybe want a guy to be a

06:17:09.140 leader in a relationship.

06:17:10.400 Uh, so I would believe submission in this example would be, uh, it's, it's okay for women to 1.00

06:17:16.980 perhaps be, uh, to want something and to perhaps be, uh, frustrated if they don't get it.

06:17:24.100 I understand most women probably want to share a bed with the same guy, although some women 1.00

06:17:28.620 are actually enjoy this preference too.

06:17:30.540 But I think that if, even if it's something that you want and your, your boyfriend or

06:17:35.640 me in this case says, no, it's not going to be that way.

06:17:40.020 Internally, you might be like, uh, a bit let down.

06:17:42.500 But I think a woman's duty in terms of obeying and being submissive is to regulate her response 1.00

06:17:48.600 to that and not crash out and be vexatious and contentious and, and nagging and really

06:17:55.660 upset by it and hurt.

06:17:57.000 And I think ideally there is no compromise on this.

06:18:02.100 I think you're valid to have that position.

06:18:04.300 Let me just finish the point here.

06:18:06.140 Let me just finish the point.

06:18:07.580 And so I think this is how the conversation should go.

06:18:11.500 It should go, by the way, I, uh, I vet for this.

06:18:15.100 Before you get, before you date, I asked the girl, I asked, they've changed their position.

06:18:20.620 Some girls are like, well, I do like it, but, um, I'll acquiesce to you and acquiesce is 1.00

06:18:25.840 a keyword I want to use here.

06:18:27.260 When it comes to the submissive dynamic, I believe that at least with this, um, and really

06:18:32.980 frankly, all things, most things anyways, I believe the woman ought to and should acquiesce 1.00

06:18:39.320 to the man.

06:18:40.140 And in this case on this specific topic, uh, do you guys, what, I guess, what do you think?

06:18:46.200 Should the woman acquiesce to me? 0.97

06:18:49.720 Yeah.

06:18:50.440 Let me start with you and we'll go around the table.

06:18:53.180 I, yeah, I actually do have personal experience with that because we lived together in two

06:18:57.140 houses.

06:18:57.840 One of them was a very small one bedroom.

06:18:59.920 We later moved into a two bedroom together and we actually did have separate bedrooms,

06:19:03.720 which was his idea.

06:19:05.440 And, um, at first I wasn't a big fan of it because I really liked going to bed together,

06:19:11.720 but ultimately then it ended up working out and I liked kind of having my own space.

06:19:17.380 And then every night before I'd go to bed, I'd tell him, okay, I'm going to bed and he'd

06:19:20.860 come and tuck me in, be all nice and all of that.

06:19:23.480 And that was able to make, he tucks you in.

06:19:25.600 Yeah.

06:19:25.860 Cause you go to bed before me.

06:19:27.420 Oh, okay.

06:19:28.180 Okay.

06:19:28.380 That's the girl needs to do the talking. 1.00

06:19:30.760 Okay.

06:19:31.000 The girl's got to do the talking. 1.00

06:19:32.180 I go to bed at like 10 PM.

06:19:34.100 He's up till 2 AM.

06:19:35.240 So then he'd go into the room and you know, I'd have the blanket on and all of that and

06:19:40.300 say, okay, good night, sleep well, you know, very nice.

06:19:43.140 And it ended up working out pretty well for us.

06:19:45.200 Okay.

06:19:45.720 All right.

06:19:45.960 What do you guys think?

06:19:47.220 Um, I prefer to like sleep in bed with somebody, but if it was like an every night scenario,

06:19:53.720 like you could never like cuddle me to bed and sleep with me next to me.

06:19:57.880 Like that kind of, I don't like that.

06:20:00.580 Like I've never experienced that on an everyday basis, but I've been in a two bedroom hotel

06:20:06.220 with my boyfriend before and they would be like, or, and he was like, he had said, oh,

06:20:12.140 I'm not comfortable right now.

06:20:13.340 He was squirming and everything.

06:20:14.540 He goes, I just want to go sleep over here.

06:20:16.500 And I just was like, oh, okay.

06:20:19.200 And then I slept any pushback on that.

06:20:21.080 No.

06:20:21.360 Cause I was too tired.

06:20:22.640 Sure.

06:20:22.960 Also like we're on vacation.

06:20:24.900 I don't want to fight with him, but no, I don't think it's a fightable scenario.

06:20:27.640 Now if he was like, I'll never sleep in bed with you.

06:20:30.000 Do you, I'm not going to fight you on that.

06:20:31.460 I'm just not going to be with you.

06:20:33.060 Are you married or?

06:20:34.840 No, absolutely not.

06:20:35.880 But I am.

06:20:37.160 You're in a relationship.

06:20:37.900 I'm in a relationship.

06:20:38.580 For how long again?

06:20:40.220 Not very long.

06:20:41.200 Six months is it?

06:20:41.920 It's been, it's on and off.

06:20:43.660 I've never been in a very healthy, strong relationship in my life.

06:20:47.120 So obviously I'm not.

06:20:48.560 But do you, do you guys live together currently?

06:20:51.100 No.

06:20:52.100 Okay.

06:20:52.860 No, we both live with our parents.

06:20:54.020 Actually, we're both very like take care of our parents sort of people.

06:20:57.420 Oh, I'm just trying to understand the context for like the sleepovers then I guess.

06:21:01.180 We were specifically at a hotel.

06:21:03.560 Now normally when I sleep over at his house, we do sleep together in the same bed.

06:21:07.340 Well that, that might just be out of, but does he have a guest room?

06:21:10.320 Because like if there's, if you have a one bedroom, if you have a one bedroom apartment,

06:21:15.940 then, uh.

06:21:18.440 Well then he's poor, right?

06:21:20.040 Okay.

06:21:20.600 Well, no, what I'm trying to say is like, just practically speaking, if there's no

06:21:23.940 other place for the woman to, to sleep. 1.00

06:21:26.720 But I mean, uh, let's say, let's say you guys, he moved and he got a two bedroom apartment

06:21:31.220 and the other one was a guest room and your boyfriend or whatever was like, Hey, uh, can

06:21:36.340 you, um, go sleep in the guest room?

06:21:39.780 Would you give him pushback?

06:21:43.060 I guess it just depends how often he did it.

06:21:46.080 Push it to the mic.

06:21:47.020 Every night.

06:21:47.960 If he did it every night, I guess I just really wouldn't, I just wouldn't like that.

06:21:53.280 I've never been in a scenario like that, but I really don't like that.

06:21:57.060 Well, I understand you don't like it, but if like that determination has been made, either

06:22:01.240 it, I mean, you can make it.

06:22:02.800 If I had my own room, my own autonomy and my own stuff, I mean, yes, I would like that.

06:22:06.780 I really, I guess I really wouldn't have a big problem with it.

06:22:09.560 I would feel a little less close at night, but if we at least cuddled before bed, then

06:22:15.340 I had my own space in bed.

06:22:17.000 I couldn't complete, I wouldn't argue with it.

06:22:20.000 It sounds actually accommodating.

06:22:21.460 Okay, what about you?

06:22:26.200 Well, I mean, I kind of already do this half the time with my husband, because he works

06:22:29.960 offshore, but we're not in the same house for two weeks, so.

06:22:34.760 Well, assuming a situation where he's like, he's at the house.

06:22:38.620 I guess it would just depend on, I mean, I don't think that's a make, it would, I don't

06:22:46.500 think it would be a deal breaker for me, per se, and, but that would, it would definitely

06:22:52.240 be a conversation to see if.

06:22:54.740 Conversation.

06:22:55.140 Yeah, like a conversation, because, you know, even though I'm, what is that word that you

06:23:02.320 use to submit to him?

06:23:05.180 Submissive?

06:23:05.720 Yeah, so you used another word, but whatever it is.

06:23:08.580 Yeah, acquiesce, even though I'm willing to acquiesce with him, as his wife, in our household,

06:23:21.400 I still, you know, like, I still would want to have that conversation and be like, is there

06:23:27.100 a reason why, you know, what is the reason, because just like he needs security, I also

06:23:33.220 need security, and that would be something that would probably make me feel a little insecure,

06:23:38.160 but if I could understand the mechanism behind it, I could probably go with it.

06:23:42.900 Now, if it was something that's like, oh, you snore or something, or I don't like you,

06:23:48.440 I don't like sleeping next to you, I might, I might have like, I'm not going to push back.

06:23:53.140 Okay, yeah, I'll explain that.

06:23:54.000 Okay, so here would be the scenario.

06:23:58.420 Yes, sleeping in the same bed together can be like an extra, like one, two, three percent

06:24:03.760 intimacy, however you want to put a number to it, but his position would be he gets better

06:24:11.700 sleep quality sleeping in his own room.

06:24:15.500 It could be, say, it's harder for him to sleep in the same room as somebody, let's just say

06:24:20.800 that's the hypothetical, and so he explains that to you, is any further, because you said

06:24:27.960 I'd like to have a conversation.

06:24:29.400 Yeah.

06:24:29.760 Is any further conversation needed?

06:24:31.920 No, not really.

06:24:33.420 Okay, so would you just immediately accept it?

06:24:36.280 I mean, I would probably feel some type of way, but I would process it.

06:24:42.360 Typically, if we have a conversation and I feel emotional, I sleep on it, and then if

06:24:49.680 I'm still emotional about it in the morning, I usually can articulate why I was upset about

06:24:55.120 something.

06:24:55.800 Okay.

06:24:55.980 So it just depends.

06:24:57.700 I'll continue around the table, but let me, I guess, add a little more information here.

06:25:02.320 So at least my own take on this is that my sleep quality supersedes the woman's desire 0.99

06:25:09.840 for like plus one percent intimacy or whatever.

06:25:13.940 So yeah.

06:25:15.420 D&D formula.

06:25:16.560 Essentially like, you know, plus five percent luck, plus five percent intimacy.

06:25:21.000 So yeah, my sleep quality completely supersedes the woman's desire for that specific form 1.00

06:25:28.660 of intimacy.

06:25:29.440 To be clear, don't mischaracterize my position.

06:25:32.920 That's not to say that intimacy is not important.

06:25:36.380 It doesn't matter.

06:25:37.680 And that all intimacy is relevant.

06:25:40.500 I'm saying that particular form of intimacy, the woman's desire in this situation, I think,

06:25:46.220 does not supersede my desire for getting a restful good night's sleep so that I can be the one

06:25:53.220 to continue providing as I am.

06:25:55.740 I mean, I don't disagree with that.

06:25:58.180 I think that's fair.

06:25:58.920 And look, you know, I'm not a total monster.

06:26:01.920 Anniversary, Valentine's Day, I'll allow it.

06:26:07.760 I'll allow it.

06:26:09.300 Unless you really need your sleep that night.

06:26:12.200 True.

06:26:12.940 True.

06:26:13.340 If I, hey, even her birthday, if I really need my, like, if her birthday falls like the

06:26:17.980 night before a show, to the guest room she goes.

06:26:21.540 To the guest room she goes.

06:26:23.120 I don't care if it's her birthday.

06:26:23.980 I got to work.

06:26:24.820 I got something going on, you know, so.

06:26:27.440 But I'm not a total monster, you know.

06:26:29.060 I'm a nice guy like that.

06:26:30.480 What can I say?

06:26:31.240 All right.

06:26:31.460 What do you think?

06:26:32.620 I think that it's, that you have the right to ask for those things if it's your home.

06:26:38.460 Right?

06:26:38.840 Sure.

06:26:39.000 Um, personally, for me, um, I think I would, I would prefer to come to a compromise of maybe

06:26:45.620 one night a week that we spend in bed together.

06:26:48.780 Um, but if I had a partner that I lived with and they were like, no, I need my own space.

06:26:53.660 I need my own bedroom.

06:26:54.400 Then I would acquiesce to them.

06:26:57.460 Is, where's Kayla?

06:27:00.020 Is Kayla here?

06:27:01.780 Maybe bathroom.

06:27:02.700 I think she might have.

06:27:09.920 She had her bag on, but.

06:27:11.860 Oh, okay. 1.00

06:27:13.360 Well, fuck. 1.00

06:27:13.820 All right. 1.00

06:27:14.800 I wanted to get to some stuff with her, but okay.

06:27:16.980 Uh, here, quick answers, guys.

06:27:18.960 Okay.

06:27:19.300 So, we never have, like, sleepovers, ever?

06:27:23.380 Like, like, a once in a while sleepover?

06:27:25.800 Well, she can.

06:27:26.320 Maybe your birthday.

06:27:26.680 Wait, wait, wait.

06:27:27.220 She sleeps over at my house, but she can have the guest room. 0.79

06:27:29.100 No, no.

06:27:29.380 I'm saying, like, sleepovers in each other's bedrooms.

06:27:32.700 It's not my preference now.

06:27:34.640 Okay.

06:27:34.680 The only, the only thing that would really keep me away from it is security.

06:27:39.660 So, for me, like, one of my favorite things about sleeping in the same room as a man is

06:27:46.180 my, is firearms.

06:27:47.620 So, knowing that some, if somebody breaks in, like, he's got that handled because I sleep 0.99

06:27:53.060 like a fucking rock. 0.99

06:27:54.200 Yeah. 0.99

06:27:54.380 I mean, that's actually compelling, but.

06:27:56.420 So, if you could.

06:27:57.400 So, all I have to do is take the room closest to the door.

06:27:59.540 Yes, exactly.

06:28:00.480 And my room would have to be, like, far away from any windows that are, like, close to

06:28:05.340 the street.

06:28:05.900 Yeah, that's an area system.

06:28:07.180 You sleep in that basement.

06:28:07.960 That's perfect.

06:28:08.600 That's totally fine with me.

06:28:09.700 That's basement for you, man.

06:28:10.000 So, as long as you can secure the house.

06:28:11.980 I've seen both sides of it.

06:28:13.720 So, my grandparents, both sides, they're, one's going on 71 years and the other is going

06:28:17.960 on 67.

06:28:19.020 But they, one side sleeps in separate bedrooms.

06:28:22.940 They decided to do that.

06:28:24.000 And then, the other side sleeps together, obviously.

06:28:28.100 And I think my personal preference would be, you know, understanding what the man wants,

06:28:35.280 if he prefers that or not.

06:28:37.680 And I am a person that might be a little bit more needy.

06:28:40.760 So.

06:28:42.800 Wait, we have a, here, let's do this.

06:28:45.600 Can I have you three shift down?

06:28:48.520 And then.

06:28:49.160 Oh, like all of us?

06:28:50.040 Yeah, I mean, she's gone, so.

06:28:51.940 Go ahead.

06:28:52.980 I've actually been in a relationship like this where it was my idea that we had different

06:28:57.240 bedrooms and it was solely because I am a very, like, OCD person and I'd like my stuff

06:29:03.580 to stay in a neat order and I thought it was better that he just was messy in his own

06:29:08.500 space and it did end up leading into us sleeping in different spots.

06:29:12.680 Apparently, I also snore, so, I mean, it probably benefited him.

06:29:15.880 So, I don't mind at all and I would, I mean, I think it was me that proposed the idea, not

06:29:21.780 him, so.

06:29:22.780 I think that it is a personal preference and I hope it's something you discussed before,

06:29:27.860 you know, getting into a serious relationship and if they're okay with it, then cool and

06:29:31.500 if they're not, then you probably shouldn't be in a relationship with someone you're not

06:29:35.080 compatible with, period.

06:29:37.960 I think that it's valid to want that, especially if you're discussing it prior to the relationship,

06:29:43.520 giving them that option to move forward with you, knowing that.

06:29:47.780 I have done the dynamic before, but we also still slept together, but I also like my space.

06:29:54.880 I like laying out like a starfish when I sleep sometimes, but I think I would still want,

06:29:59.880 like, some nights together.

06:30:01.920 Otherwise, I don't think I could be with someone like that.

06:30:04.420 Okay.

06:30:04.960 What about you?

06:30:05.280 Yeah, honestly, same exact thing.

06:30:08.200 I totally would not mind separate rooms.

06:30:10.880 In fact, for my future, when I do live with a male, I am definitely going to want us to

06:30:17.560 have separate rooms, but sleeping together, I would not be okay with separate sleeping every

06:30:26.980 single night.

06:30:27.880 I would need some sort of, um, a, um, like cooperation when I'm thinking of, um, sorry.

06:30:39.840 Okay, got it.

06:30:40.360 Anya, can you read this, please?

06:30:41.580 Compromise, yes.

06:30:42.560 Me?

06:30:43.140 Yep.

06:30:43.380 You women need to read a book called, a book titled A Child Called It by Dave Pelzer, an autobiography

06:30:49.480 of the author being abused by his alcoholic single mother, including being stabbed and eating

06:30:54.400 vomit, just to survive while sleeping on an army cot in the basement doing house chores.

06:30:59.820 I have read it.

06:31:00.160 Uh, thank you for that.

06:31:00.800 I have also read it.

06:31:01.600 Can you read this one, please?

06:31:04.420 Um, lady, your confidence far exceeds your competence.

06:31:08.280 Shame you. 0.99

06:31:09.260 Shame you.

06:31:10.060 Thank you, man.

06:31:10.420 Appreciate it.

06:31:11.040 Appreciate it.

06:31:12.700 Uh, here, let's go to Twitch really quick.

06:31:14.260 Can you pull up Twitch?

06:31:15.020 Uh, guys, go to twitch.tv slash whatever.

06:31:16.800 Drop us a follow.

06:31:17.320 Drop us a prime sub.

06:31:18.220 Guys, we, um, we barely run any ads over there on Twitch.

06:31:23.040 Twitch, we don't do pre-rolls over there on Twitch.

06:31:25.840 Uh, crazy.

06:31:27.120 Can you pull it up?

06:31:28.120 Uh, you know, we got a, uh, pretty, pretty high, uh, you know, effort that goes into the

06:31:36.140 production of this.

06:31:38.060 Uh, it's expensive to run this operation.

06:31:40.900 You know, again, I'm not just like some dude playing video games like a lot of these streamers

06:31:45.840 on Twitch.

06:31:46.280 Not, again, not that there's anything wrong with that, but our production time, production

06:31:50.480 effort, production costs far exceed, uh, almost all of the content that you see over there

06:31:56.160 on Twitch.

06:31:57.120 So, uh, Coop, thank you for the gifted 10 subs.

06:32:00.100 Davion, thank you for the 25.

06:32:01.700 So, if you guys can, check if you have an Amazon Prime sub available.

06:32:04.500 Drop us a Prime sub if you have one available.

06:32:08.460 And, uh, I'm trying to think if there's anything else.

06:32:11.620 Yeah, guys, it's six figures a year to, uh, run this show.

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06:32:20.920 dropping us a follow and a Prime sub.

06:32:23.700 If you have one, Gamid, thank you for the Prime sub.

06:32:26.720 I appreciate it, guys.

06:32:27.440 Um, we have a question here, but I'm not able to pull it up.

06:32:30.600 So, uh, the question is on a scale of zero to 10, what do you rate your looks?

06:32:36.740 Uh, and let's do face, body, total, starting with you.

06:32:43.320 So, not an overall, this is separate ratings?

06:32:46.420 So, so.

06:32:47.500 Oh, you're saying just physical.

06:32:48.620 Yeah, zero to 10, your physical looks, rate your face, rate body, and then like your total

06:32:54.380 rating.

06:32:54.860 So, don't, when I say total, I don't mean add your face rating and your body rating so

06:33:01.060 you get like 20.

06:33:02.060 I understand.

06:33:02.420 Uh, I just mean like what you think.

06:33:03.960 The average, yes.

06:33:05.080 Sort of.

06:33:05.720 Uh, okay, go ahead.

06:33:07.560 That's yours.

06:33:08.140 Okay.

06:33:09.320 I would rate my face a 9.99, my body a 9.99, overall a 9.99. 1.00

06:33:18.760 Shit. 1.00

06:33:19.280 Because perfection is impossible. 1.00

06:33:21.880 There's always room for improvement.

06:33:25.120 But as far as like as perfect as you can get without being perfect, you definitely fall

06:33:31.940 on that threshold.

06:33:32.820 Yeah.

06:33:33.820 Okay.

06:33:34.300 Well, God didn't make me this way and he makes no mistakes, right?

06:33:39.500 Are you religious?

06:33:40.540 God.

06:33:40.920 Are you religious?

06:33:41.840 I'm, I'm, I am Jewish and I follow Judaism.

06:33:45.540 Okay.

06:33:45.760 I'm, I'm a reform Jewish lady.

06:33:48.940 10.

06:33:50.300 Well, face, body, total?

06:33:52.040 Yes.

06:33:52.600 So, well, so it would look something like this.

06:33:55.760 Face, 10, body, 10, total, 10.

06:33:58.480 Yes.

06:33:59.500 Not just yes.

06:34:00.300 Can you say it in your own words?

06:34:01.300 Face, 10.

06:34:02.880 Body, 10.

06:34:04.540 Total, 10.

06:34:06.680 Uh, I don't like to rate people on their looks personally.

06:34:10.740 And, uh, the only person I care about, you know, who cares about my rating would be my

06:34:15.400 boyfriend.

06:34:15.660 That's basically it.

06:34:16.660 So, well, I get that you don't like to rate people on their looks, but I'm asking you to

06:34:20.360 rate yourself.

06:34:22.440 Well, there's no such thing as a 10 in my opinion, because nobody is perfect.

06:34:26.160 And I think that, you know, if somebody likes a bleached blonde Latina, then they might 1.00

06:34:31.200 find me a nine.

06:34:31.900 That's not answering.

06:34:32.620 No, but what do you think?

06:34:33.640 And somebody that doesn't might call me a four or a three or whatever.

06:34:36.520 Yeah, but what do you think of yourself?

06:34:38.040 I think highly of myself, but I don't want to give an exact rating.

06:34:43.320 Yeah.

06:34:43.380 Maybe you can go around and rate people afterwards.

06:34:46.680 Oh, yeah.

06:34:47.580 That's fine.

06:34:48.780 Yeah.

06:34:49.320 Do you, can I throw out a guess?

06:34:51.360 Do you think you're a 10?

06:34:52.920 I don't believe I'm perfect.

06:34:54.060 Absolutely not.

06:34:54.620 Do you think you're, how about this?

06:34:55.840 Do you think you're a nine?

06:34:57.100 I, it depends.

06:34:58.160 My, my boyfriend definitely does.

06:34:59.800 He actually thinks I'm a 10.

06:35:01.380 To yourself, like in the mirror, what do you think you are?

06:35:04.060 I, I don't know.

06:35:05.240 It depends on a preference.

06:35:06.320 I really, you know.

06:35:07.380 Your preference.

06:35:08.300 10 doesn't mean you're perfect.

06:35:09.040 I really get mixed reviews.

06:35:10.500 Yes, it does.

06:35:11.020 You're allowed to think you're pretty.

06:35:12.360 Your review of you.

06:35:14.300 I think I am above average attractive for sure.

06:35:17.980 So above a five.

06:35:19.020 So above five.

06:35:19.920 So between five and 10.

06:35:21.060 All right.

06:35:21.320 I'm not going to get caught up in this.

06:35:22.200 Between five and 10.

06:35:23.080 All right.

06:35:23.600 What about you?

06:35:24.020 Eight face, eight body, eight overall.

06:35:28.120 Maybe less tattoos.

06:35:29.400 I'd be nine.

06:35:30.200 Either speak closer to the mic or project your voice, please.

06:35:33.240 Eight face, eight body, overall eight.

06:35:36.000 Eight point five face, maybe seven.

06:35:42.260 Can I choose seven?

06:35:43.040 Seven, six body.

06:35:44.820 And then overall eight. 0.96

06:35:47.820 Wait, I am so fucking sorry. 0.96

06:35:49.720 Hold on. 0.95

06:35:50.460 Oh.

06:35:51.600 Wait, wait, wait.

06:35:52.220 I'm supposed to write it down.

06:35:53.380 I needed to write it down. 1.00

06:35:54.880 Fuck. 1.00

06:35:55.380 Okay. 1.00

06:35:55.660 Nine point nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, ten, ten.

06:35:58.660 This is a refuse.

06:36:00.340 You said, can you repeat?

06:36:02.380 Eight face, eight body, eight overall, I guess.

06:36:05.460 Okay.

06:36:05.860 What about you?

06:36:07.180 Eight point five face, and then can you choose seven?

06:36:10.980 Is that possible?

06:36:12.120 I'll accept it for now.

06:36:13.380 Okay.

06:36:13.600 Seven body, and then eight overall.

06:36:16.360 Total.

06:36:16.660 Okay.

06:36:17.000 Anya?

06:36:17.960 Five face, four body, so like four and a half.

06:36:21.400 Okay.

06:36:22.280 You underrate yourself, but okay.

06:36:23.860 I would say nine face, eight body, eight overall.

06:36:32.000 Sorry, repeat that.

06:36:33.520 Nine for my face, eight for my body, eight overall.

06:36:38.240 Okay.

06:36:41.700 What about you?

06:36:43.460 I would say four for my face, and three for my body, and maybe like, I guess a three

06:36:51.560 point five overall.

06:36:52.540 Okay.

06:36:52.860 What about you?

06:36:57.220 Breath.

06:36:57.680 Do we need the breath?

06:36:58.560 Okay.

06:36:58.740 You're not allowed to breathe?

06:37:02.900 No, but it's like, it's like, it's about to be my turn to, oh my god, I need to quit

06:37:08.160 this.

06:37:08.780 Okay, go ahead.

06:37:09.520 I think like, my body's more of like a six, even though it's like, got, what's the word?

06:37:17.960 It's got promise, if I really put my mind to it, but no, I'm good genetics, but am I

06:37:23.800 using them?

06:37:24.520 All right, so I'm like, six body, let's go there, and then let's go with like, give myself

06:37:30.980 a seven for my face, and overall, seven.

06:37:36.080 Nice.

06:37:37.780 Yeah, I don't know.

06:37:38.980 I'm not a big fan of this question, so I'm not going to answer it.

06:37:41.840 I think I'm attractive enough.

06:37:42.560 Be a good sport.

06:37:43.400 Be a good sport.

06:37:44.000 Come on.

06:37:45.260 I don't know.

06:37:45.760 I mean, I think I'm attractive enough, and it really depends on the day when you look

06:37:49.880 at yourself, you know?

06:37:51.440 So.

06:37:51.800 Most days, if you averaged how you viewed yourself.

06:37:56.480 I don't know.

06:37:57.180 I just don't want to answer the question.

06:37:59.080 I think I'm attractive enough.

06:38:02.180 We all knew we'd be asking this.

06:38:03.460 That's an omit.

06:38:04.840 Okay.

06:38:05.400 All right.

06:38:05.780 I'll accept it for now.

06:38:07.320 Andrew, what do you rate yourself?

06:38:08.360 I feel really good.

06:38:08.820 Oh, 10 face, 10 body, 10.

06:38:11.400 That's great.

06:38:12.240 100% of 10.

06:38:13.500 All right.

06:38:13.900 I give myself 4.5, 4.5, 4.5.

06:38:19.320 I don't know why.

06:38:20.100 Why is anybody laughing?

06:38:22.440 What? 1.00

06:38:22.800 What the fuck? 1.00

06:38:24.020 No, I'm just enjoying your confidence. 1.00

06:38:25.620 Wait.

06:38:26.140 Are you saying that I have a much higher opinion of myself than is actually true?

06:38:30.760 We enjoy your confidence as well, though.

06:38:32.420 Yeah, we enjoy it, too.

06:38:34.240 Wow.

06:38:34.700 I've managed to, once again, I don't know how to do this.

06:38:40.640 It's the Avengers of supermodels, I guess.

06:38:42.920 We got a 9.99, a 10.

06:38:45.220 This was a refuse, 8, 8.5, 9.

06:38:50.620 So, wow.

06:38:51.400 We have a 9.999, or a 9.99, a 10, an 8, an 8, a 9.

06:38:56.640 But can we be serious, too?

06:38:58.100 The omits thought they were 10s, right? 1.00

06:39:00.620 No, you expect conservatives on the show are going to act, and they're going to respond

06:39:06.660 conservatively.

06:39:08.240 There's nothing that precludes a conservative woman from having an assessment or ranking 0.80

06:39:13.180 of her own attractiveness.

06:39:15.020 It's not incompatible with conservatism.

06:39:16.980 That's a personal opinion.

06:39:18.940 I think that's a way.

06:39:19.840 What is anti-conservative?

06:39:21.180 What would actually make that incompatible?

06:39:22.960 Well, I think that's about, you know, acting like a lady and rating my, I've never in 0.99

06:39:27.240 my life, I'm 32 years old, have never rated my body in front of people, and I don't feel

06:39:31.800 like I need to do that.

06:39:33.700 But how would that make you less of a lady? 0.99

06:39:35.420 I don't understand how that makes you less of a lady.

06:39:37.460 I watched the show enough to know this was coming up.

06:39:39.980 Can you tilt your mic down there?

06:39:42.360 Of course.

06:39:42.940 Like, tilt it down?

06:39:44.540 I agree.

06:39:45.840 Conservatism is a political ideology.

06:39:49.020 It's a cultural ideology, too.

06:39:51.240 So you can call yourself conservative, you know?

06:39:54.260 But you're not even trad.

06:39:55.880 So your version of conservative is equal to trad, but most women that call themselves 0.98

06:40:01.300 conservative are not trad, your definition of it.

06:40:05.700 So that's what I'm saying, you know, I think it's respectful.

06:40:08.600 Well, then how is it cultural?

06:40:10.180 What's the cultural aspect of it?

06:40:11.980 I think it's respectful to just respect her opinion and to pass it on.

06:40:16.080 Yeah, it's fine to, I get that.

06:40:17.580 It's a dating show.

06:40:18.560 I understand the omission thing.

06:40:20.120 I get that.

06:40:20.720 I understand.

06:40:21.720 I just don't understand how it makes you less conservative to give an assessment of

06:40:28.600 what you think your face looks like or what you think your body looks like to the general

06:40:33.240 public.

06:40:33.940 Because I think my value is focused elsewhere.

06:40:37.520 That's why.

06:40:39.180 What is that? 0.95

06:40:39.840 I don't even know what the fuck that means. 0.94

06:40:41.440 I think my value doesn't come from my looks. 0.91

06:40:43.940 It comes from how I carry myself, my virtue.

06:40:46.300 Who's saying anything, but I don't understand.

06:40:49.160 How do we get to the loaded aspect of your self-worth is tied in or somehow you're less

06:40:54.480 valuable because it's the case that you rate yourself higher or lower on your looks.

06:41:00.320 It's just not something I do.

06:41:02.300 Period.

06:41:02.780 Yeah, I know.

06:41:03.120 But I get that.

06:41:05.020 But I don't understand how that would devalue you at all.

06:41:08.260 I didn't say it.

06:41:09.500 It's just something I don't personally do.

06:41:11.820 No, no.

06:41:12.300 I mean, you did say that though.

06:41:13.560 You said, I think there's better things or something like this.

06:41:17.600 That I value myself on.

06:41:17.880 Yes.

06:41:18.080 That I judge myself on.

06:41:20.180 That I actually attribute value to myself on.

06:41:22.600 Yes, there are plenty of other things.

06:41:23.500 Well, I mean, but you don't wake up in the morning and put on a bunch of makeup on your

06:41:27.820 personality.

06:41:28.920 No.

06:41:29.360 You put it on your face, right?

06:41:30.880 No, that's on every single day.

06:41:32.980 Yeah.

06:41:33.580 That's why it's an accurate assessment to give myself a rating on my personality instead

06:41:39.380 of my looks.

06:41:41.000 Yeah, right.

06:41:41.340 But if you couldn't assess your looks, you wouldn't put makeup on your face because

06:41:45.460 otherwise you wouldn't know how to enhance it, right?

06:41:49.040 Say that again?

06:41:49.700 Why would you ever use makeup on your face unless you were using it to enhance features

06:41:53.840 about your face that you liked?

06:41:55.180 Um, because I feel like it makes me look better, feel better.

06:42:00.780 So it enhances the features that you like and that you think appear good to other people.

06:42:05.360 So you are making those value judgments every day.

06:42:08.200 Yes.

06:42:08.760 For myself.

06:42:09.580 And that's all we're asking is for the value judgment of yourself.

06:42:13.640 I keep that to myself.

06:42:14.100 Okay.

06:42:14.940 But that's fine.

06:42:16.360 But then don't pretend you don't make the value judgments because that's what you were

06:42:20.380 doing.

06:42:20.720 You were pretending I don't make those value judgments.

06:42:23.520 That's not when you clearly make the value judgments every single day.

06:42:27.700 That's not what I normally value myself overall.

06:42:31.380 Can I, can I wake up, look in the mirror and say, today I look a little puffy.

06:42:35.820 Did anybody ever say that the overarching way that you value yourself is only in physical

06:42:42.200 appearance?

06:42:43.020 Did that ever, of course.

06:42:44.500 No.

06:42:44.660 So all we're asking was how you value yourself in physical appearance.

06:42:48.380 She said, well, I just don't do that.

06:42:49.520 And then we, we figured out you do actually do that every single day.

06:42:52.940 Yeah.

06:42:53.400 It depends how, you know, the clothes I want to wear that day and the makeup I want to

06:42:57.740 do that day, depending on the occasion.

06:43:00.040 If it's more casual of a day, if I'm doing TV.

06:43:02.780 Well, my assumption is like, you don't wake up in the morning, go over and grab lipstick

06:43:06.660 and just smear it all over your forehead and all over your neck and then walk outside

06:43:10.960 to the grocery store like that.

06:43:12.440 Right.

06:43:12.880 No, no, no, no.

06:43:14.080 So you like use it to enhance features that you have.

06:43:17.540 Right.

06:43:18.120 She also dyed her hair a whole different color.

06:43:20.820 Yeah.

06:43:21.100 I'm naturally a brunette. 0.99

06:43:22.000 The opposite thing.

06:43:22.780 Yeah.

06:43:23.060 Right.

06:43:23.420 Dark. 0.73

06:43:23.820 What's that choice for?

06:43:25.520 Likely to enhance characteristics about yourself.

06:43:29.140 Yes.

06:43:29.660 Yeah.

06:43:30.380 Yes.

06:43:30.820 Yeah.

06:43:31.040 But that's all the questions asking.

06:43:32.540 I think.

06:43:33.020 Absolutely.

06:43:33.700 You know, I think everybody does that.

06:43:35.220 I think men do that with a beard.

06:43:36.760 If most men shape their beard.

06:43:38.360 That's not in question.

06:43:39.700 That's literally not.

06:43:40.960 I agree a hundred percent.

06:43:42.080 Do you like your beard because it enhances your looks?

06:43:44.220 Men definitely do very. 0.98

06:43:46.120 Well, no, I have a beard because I'm just fucking lazy. 0.72

06:43:48.060 But the point is, it's like. 0.70

06:43:49.620 Do you think it would, it does enhance your looks or it doesn't?

06:43:52.060 I don't know.

06:43:52.960 No.

06:43:53.280 Well, so it's something you don't want to talk about.

06:43:55.680 Well, I actually just don't know the answer to that.

06:43:57.700 Uh-huh.

06:43:58.240 I don't know if it enhances my looks or not.

06:44:00.080 Probably. 1.00

06:44:00.840 Men are ugly. 1.00

06:44:01.480 Probably it does. 1.00

06:44:02.420 Maybe.

06:44:02.620 I think it's.

06:44:03.160 But the thing is, is like that aside, that literally it's not in dispute that I look

06:44:09.540 in the mirror and give myself an assessment of my appearance and then change the appearance

06:44:14.480 based on the assessment for the thing I want.

06:44:16.520 Like, oh, I'm doing a big interview.

06:44:18.760 Probably not going to not comb the hair and put on like nice clothes.

06:44:23.780 Right?

06:44:24.260 Yeah.

06:44:24.600 So I can make those value judgments.

06:44:26.100 Yes.

06:44:26.520 Correct.

06:44:26.980 Yeah.

06:44:27.140 So that's, that's all we're asking for.

06:44:28.780 I just don't think it's on a one to 10 scale.

06:44:30.620 That's my personal opinion.

06:44:32.580 Well, the, the one, the one to 10 scale is just saying you're taking what you generally

06:44:37.240 see in society and then you're applying it against what you think you look like in,

06:44:41.540 in comparison to that.

06:44:43.180 I understand the concept.

06:44:44.920 Yeah.

06:44:45.080 So I don't, I don't know.

06:44:46.040 I don't know why that's not conservative though.

06:44:47.980 I just don't want to participate in that.

06:44:50.260 That's fine.

06:44:50.880 You don't have to participate.

06:44:52.160 I just, you know, when you say, I just don't judge myself on that.

06:44:56.100 That's where I'm like, yes, you do.

06:44:57.960 Yeah.

06:44:58.460 Most people judge how they look and when they throw out the door, whatever.

06:45:03.360 You know what I do?

06:45:05.020 I, I forgot to say this.

06:45:07.300 Why is it that average women just average looking women just don't view themselves as 0.98

06:45:13.680 average?

06:45:15.820 Why is that?

06:45:17.740 What is an average?

06:45:18.860 Well, here we can, what do you mean?

06:45:20.340 Just average looking.

06:45:21.180 I think the average women, I think average women rate themselves maybe a little bit

06:45:26.160 higher because they want to practice self-confidence and have self-worth.

06:45:31.580 You can be confident and be able to, that would be deception, right?

06:45:35.900 That's not confidence.

06:45:37.740 Isn't it kind of lying to yourself where you are?

06:45:40.680 Self-deception.

06:45:41.580 I actually have a question for Brian.

06:45:43.020 Is it rating yourself low lying to yourself too?

06:45:44.340 What's up?

06:45:45.160 What do you rate a 10 and have you ever had a 10 on the show?

06:45:48.860 Or a nine, sorry.

06:45:50.640 10 is high.

06:45:51.420 10 is kind of unachievable.

06:45:52.640 I don't think 10s exist.

06:45:54.660 I agree on that then.

06:45:55.780 I think it's hard for people to admit that there's something wrong with them.

06:46:00.060 Like personally, I need to lose weight.

06:46:02.120 It would be healthier for me to lose weight.

06:46:04.100 But there are people in this world who would see criticizing themselves like that or judging

06:46:09.220 themselves like that would hurt their self-esteem and admit, have to admit that they are not

06:46:14.180 perfect, which no one is.

06:46:16.620 I mean, we could, we could pull up photos of, of famous female supermodels.

06:46:22.020 Um, I think perhaps, uh, Adriana Lima when she was younger might be a good example of a

06:46:29.500 woman who was, uh, exceptionally, uh, attractive and beautiful.

06:46:36.140 Um, again, I don't think 10s exist, but she's definitely a nine.

06:46:40.120 She's definitely a nine. 1.00

06:46:41.440 Um, I've been waiting to ask you this question a while.

06:46:43.940 We're going to come back to the rating thing, but really quick, I do want to go around the

06:46:48.440 table.

06:46:48.900 Just show of hands really quick.

06:46:50.120 Who here thinks men are insecure if they care about body count?

06:46:52.600 Show of hands.

06:46:53.300 Do you think it's insecure if a man like cares about a woman's body count?

06:46:58.340 I think that's a component.

06:47:00.060 Okay.

06:47:00.640 All right.

06:47:01.820 Nobody, nobody.

06:47:02.760 You think it's insecure?

06:47:04.160 I think it has a little insecurity to it.

06:47:06.700 Insecure?

06:47:06.920 You think?

06:47:08.880 I think it's a little insecure.

06:47:12.460 Yeah.

06:47:12.820 It's, I mean, but like by, by little bit, I wouldn't think every person I've ever dated

06:47:18.660 has asked me, you know, it's been a very minute amount of men that would have asked me on a

06:47:24.100 first date or anything like that.

06:47:25.800 Okay.

06:47:26.200 And that it is a little unattractive in the sense of how personal that question in it might

06:47:32.040 be on like a very low level of knowing that person.

06:47:36.660 Are we all asking?

06:47:37.720 I think it's totally valid.

06:47:38.660 I think it's super valid.

06:47:39.860 That should be one of your vetting questions as a man.

06:47:41.960 What's your body count that that you got to vet, you know, but, uh, I think, you know,

06:47:47.220 some guys don't care.

06:47:48.080 That's fine too.

06:47:48.700 I guess for them, if that's what they want to think, I think it's coped to go ahead.

06:47:53.160 Well, let me ask the question first.

06:47:54.380 Uh, so, okay.

06:47:55.040 Some of you seem to think it's insecure.

06:47:57.340 So I'm not, uh, going around the table.

06:47:59.080 What's your body count?

06:48:02.240 Okay.

06:48:03.540 Um, honest answer then.

06:48:05.540 Sure.

06:48:05.940 Um, my rating maybe wasn't the most honest answer, but, um, I mean like it is, but it's,

06:48:12.260 I, I can actually put a number on this, you know, somewhat.

06:48:16.940 I can put a range.

06:48:17.680 Um, definitely above 55, I'd say somewhere in the sixties to somewhere in the sixties

06:48:30.460 is what I came up with, which I did kind of check this out a few months ago.

06:48:35.000 Like, do you have a list on your phone?

06:48:36.380 I do keep a list of everyone that I have had intercourse with.

06:48:39.620 It's on your phone.

06:48:40.340 Yes, it is.

06:48:41.100 Would you be willing to read the list?

06:48:43.560 First names.

06:48:43.980 Like, I guess.

06:48:45.400 Okay.

06:48:45.620 We'll do that later.

06:48:46.460 Um, remind me, remind me.

06:48:48.680 Some of them aren't on the list because, um, because some of them, I don't, it was like

06:48:56.640 just the tip or what?

06:48:58.400 I mean, um, no.

06:48:59.460 So did you put just, there's okay.

06:49:02.320 So there's been a few times as, as a sex worker, as a sex worker, there have been some

06:49:07.620 times that I have done full service work.

06:49:10.720 And so those ones, I did not, those ones, not you, those ones, I did not add to my list.

06:49:19.080 So you don't count your customers?

06:49:21.640 No.

06:49:22.080 And I don't do, I, that's not generally, I'm not really a full service sex worker, but 0.97

06:49:27.080 you have had sex, but I have done it before, but you have had sex for money. 0.98

06:49:31.460 Yes. 0.99

06:49:31.940 Okay.

06:49:32.060 Do you count them on your body count?

06:49:34.840 They're not on my, they're on my body count, but they're not on like my little list.

06:49:37.580 Okay.

06:49:37.900 It's different.

06:49:38.800 Your body count is different from the list.

06:49:40.480 Body count.

06:49:41.080 Right.

06:49:42.660 Oh, seven.

06:49:44.080 Okay.

06:49:44.720 That's an unladylike question to answer.

06:49:47.120 So here we are.

06:49:49.960 Interesting.

06:49:50.760 Uh, really quick question for you.

06:49:53.360 Do you think it would be like inappropriate or wrong for a guy to ask that question of you?

06:49:59.860 Um, like individually, one-on-one, not on a podcast.

06:50:03.160 Yeah.

06:50:03.340 I think if they asked about my past history and relationships, I would be willing to be

06:50:09.340 honest because I have nothing that I am ashamed of.

06:50:12.000 But if they straight up asked me, Hey, by the way, what's your body count?

06:50:15.300 I'm eliminating that person from my perspective in dating.

06:50:18.220 Yeah.

06:50:18.660 Does that make sense?

06:50:19.400 It's wrong for men to have any standards.

06:50:21.640 No, it's, I think you should, because, you know, match up to what you feel is acceptable

06:50:27.300 for you.

06:50:28.160 So find that out.

06:50:29.720 But the only reason, the only way you're going to find out the truth, first of all, uh, you

06:50:34.400 might, you might never find out the truth just by asking, right?

06:50:38.800 You can't you or for other women? 1.00

06:50:40.640 No.

06:50:41.020 If, if you were to ask a woman what we're talking about you, yes, I agree.

06:50:45.000 Women can lie about their body count. 1.00

06:50:46.520 I absolutely agree.

06:50:47.800 But would you lie about it?

06:50:48.640 I, I would not because I, I don't have anything to have to lie about, but asking it would be

06:50:54.560 disqualifying, but being rude about it and not asking about previous relationships and

06:51:00.360 just asking it like this.

06:51:01.880 Can I frame it like this?

06:51:03.080 So you're, you're with a new guy or whatever.

06:51:06.260 And he's like, Hey, uh, Mia Moore, I really like you.

06:51:10.400 You're so, is that Spanish?

06:51:11.900 I don't know.

06:51:12.460 Yeah, you got it.

06:51:13.420 You are.

06:51:14.380 I really like you.

06:51:15.880 I see long-term potential here.

06:51:17.920 Uh, in fact, I even think you could be my future wife. 1.00

06:51:21.220 Maybe that might be cringe to say, but that's his intention, right?

06:51:24.060 That's his intention.

06:51:24.940 And he's like, listen, something that is, uh, important to me.

06:51:28.840 Look, we, I have a past.

06:51:30.540 You have a past.

06:51:31.040 Something that's important to me though, is I am curious to know your, uh, curious to

06:51:36.360 know your body count.

06:51:37.740 And, um, the way that's framed is, is that acceptable?

06:51:40.960 Uh, or no, it's acceptable to ask about previous relationships.

06:51:45.540 But if you mentioned the words body count, I think that even if done in, in a, uh, but

06:51:51.640 that's, but that, isn't that kind of sneaky because, well, hang on, hang on.

06:51:55.660 Isn't it kind of sneaky?

06:51:56.600 If it's the case that you say, it's the way you hang on, hang on, you say, hang on, can 0.99

06:52:01.660 I ask the fucking question? 1.00

06:52:03.820 Okay. 0.99

06:52:04.300 So isn't it kind of sneaky to be like, you can ask about previous relationships.

06:52:08.680 What if it's the case that the woman doesn't count, right? 0.82

06:52:12.460 Uh, you know, other bodies as being a relationship, whereas a body count is very specific and it's

06:52:20.140 like, you know what it is that I'm asking then does, doesn't that throw a red flag?

06:52:24.920 Uh, again, personally, I like to keep my, very sneaky, good catch.

06:52:31.260 Um, I like to be very sexually disciplined.

06:52:34.940 I don't have a, what I guess you guys would consider high body count.

06:52:39.420 Um, but there's no way of knowing if a person, uh, does have it or not.

06:52:44.420 And I don't think that if you're looking for a wife, you know, somebody serious to be in

06:52:49.240 a relationship with in the future, that knowing that information is going to determine whether

06:52:54.900 they have the character to be a long-term wife or anything like that, because you can't 0.99

06:53:00.480 prove it.

06:53:01.060 So for example, and I'll give you the example.

06:53:03.840 Um, can you, can you, for, you want somebody that you're with in the future to be clean,

06:53:09.020 right?

06:53:09.240 To not have an STD or anything like that.

06:53:12.040 Can somebody who's a virgin have an STD?

06:53:15.980 Yes.

06:53:16.420 It's logically possible.

06:53:17.600 Yes.

06:53:17.940 So the only way for you to find that out is by going to get tested, right?

06:53:22.700 Men care about body count for more reasons than just her STD status. 0.93

06:53:26.280 Yes.

06:53:26.480 I agree.

06:53:27.360 But I'm saying if you want a long-term partner, there's a couple of problems here.

06:53:34.260 The first problem is the assumption that you'll never know.

06:53:38.120 So the thing that's hilarious, well, no.

06:53:40.760 So here, I'll give you an example.

06:53:42.320 How are you going to know?

06:53:43.040 I literally just said, I would give you an example that those were my exact words.

06:53:48.700 So anyway, here's, here's a great example of this woman says, ah, I've only slept with 0.99

06:53:53.660 four dudes.

06:53:54.920 Right.

06:53:55.900 And the guy's like, oh, okay.

06:53:57.180 Well, that's really small amounts.

06:53:59.400 Right.

06:53:59.820 Who, who are they?

06:54:00.760 I was, you know, my ex, Justin, my ex, you know, Fred, my ex Chuck and my ex Dan.

06:54:06.020 Right.

06:54:06.580 And then, you know, a couple of weeks in, uh, you find out she has another ex named Steve

06:54:12.120 and you're like, Hey, how long were you with him?

06:54:14.520 And you're like three months and you're like, oh, do you admit him from the body count?

06:54:17.980 Ah, yeah. 0.61

06:54:19.560 And it's like, well, now you have good reason to suspect that they're a liar.

06:54:24.060 Yeah.

06:54:24.440 So the thing is, it's like, you can actually hang on.

06:54:27.220 So you actually can, uh, hang on.

06:54:30.380 Let me finish lady. 1.00

06:54:31.400 You can indeed actually find out if a woman's being truthful about her body count or not. 0.84

06:54:37.120 And if she was lying about that, you should, you can easily assume that there's more, right?

06:54:41.340 Yes.

06:54:41.760 And you should, if you want an honest person to have a relationship with, then you would

06:54:46.220 discard them there.

06:54:46.960 Not even for the additional body.

06:54:48.900 Right.

06:54:49.260 But because of the fact that they lied.

06:54:50.900 So you can't trust anything else that they said.

06:54:52.960 Right.

06:54:53.500 Yeah.

06:54:53.640 So the thing is, is that that would be a deception, but if we're operating under the assumption

06:54:58.180 that, well, you just have to take her out of word.

06:54:59.960 You can't find out.

06:55:00.780 That's actually not true.

06:55:02.020 You know, what's funny is in her notes, in her notes, wait, wait, wait, in her notes,

06:55:08.080 she says that she actually runs criminal background checks on men before dating them.

06:55:12.780 I didn't actually.

06:55:13.380 Yeah.

06:55:13.780 So it's interesting that it seems like, which is totally fine.

06:55:17.620 Totally fine.

06:55:18.140 However, there is a bit of a, um, she, she objects to men inquiring as to women's past,

06:55:29.460 but doesn't.

06:55:30.720 I'm not against it.

06:55:31.520 No, I'm not.

06:55:32.200 I'm not against it.

06:55:33.080 I'm saying that you wouldn't get the truth, whether there's no, you're admitting you would

06:55:38.200 lie about it.

06:55:38.880 No, I, and I have never, but there's no reason to assume you're telling me.

06:55:42.540 Why would you assume, but hold on, women can be honest about this. 1.00

06:55:45.960 Correct.

06:55:46.400 So women can be honest and women can be as deceptive, but we're asking, I'm asking you 1.00

06:55:51.040 specifically.

06:55:51.900 So for you, it's if, if the guy asks the question, it's over.

06:55:57.040 From the beginning.

06:55:59.160 Yes.

06:55:59.580 I feel like that's a rude, ungentlemanly question to ask.

06:56:03.400 I feel like if they know me and we've talked and they know my past, they know what I do.

06:56:08.140 Which you wouldn't disclose.

06:56:08.620 They know my values.

06:56:09.900 Which you wouldn't openly disclose.

06:56:11.640 They know my values.

06:56:12.740 Hold on.

06:56:13.080 I got to come back to this.

06:56:14.280 But I have a more question though.

06:56:15.800 Hold on.

06:56:16.040 Let me, let me get the answers from people.

06:56:17.320 Body count.

06:56:18.420 Well, I heard it resets after a BBL.

06:56:21.320 So just three.

06:56:24.020 Before the three.

06:56:25.120 You have a BBL?

06:56:26.580 Yeah.

06:56:27.640 It resets after that, I heard.

06:56:31.380 Okay.

06:56:31.900 So three cents, the BBL.

06:56:33.120 How about the prior to the BBL?

06:56:36.660 A little more than three.

06:56:40.680 It resets.

06:56:43.020 You're so funny.

06:56:43.780 What was it before the, what was it before the BBL?

06:56:46.520 If I had an answer, I'd tell you, but I don't know.

06:56:48.820 Did you forget?

06:56:49.740 I don't know.

06:56:51.000 Like you lost track.

06:56:52.840 Yeah.

06:56:53.640 Here, let me.

06:56:54.340 That's why I was happy that it resets.

06:56:56.300 Can we ballpark it?

06:56:57.360 Can we say, wait, wait, wait.

06:57:00.360 No, no, no, no, no, no.

06:57:02.920 And you're going to answer the question, and I need to do your notes.

06:57:05.980 Don't you want me to go over your comedian notes that you have here?

06:57:08.540 They're not that good.

06:57:09.900 I mean, they are pretty good.

06:57:11.440 They are pretty good.

06:57:12.400 Why don't you at least stay for the body count question?

06:57:16.260 What is the body count?

06:57:17.300 Okay, you did say you don't do OF, but you date a lot.

06:57:22.560 Lots of experience.

06:57:26.080 Do you want to just yell it out?

06:57:34.480 How's that a good point?

06:57:35.520 That's not a good point.

06:57:37.320 How would my boyfriend feel watching this about me talking about body count publicly?

06:57:41.440 You're on a dating podcast.

06:57:43.240 There's plenty of dating shows throughout history that have never changed.

06:57:47.300 Yeah, I'm not giving you any pushback on this.

06:57:49.920 It's Brian's case that Brian asked the body count thing. 0.99

06:57:53.660 I don't give a shit what the body count is. 0.99

06:57:55.600 I only give a shit if the idea is that somehow inappropriate to ask. 0.99

06:57:59.740 That's in dating. 0.99

06:58:01.240 That's the only thing I care about because that doesn't make any sense to me.

06:58:04.400 Yeah, I mean, it makes sense to ask when in dating,

06:58:06.900 but it obviously is something I'm comfortable to share publicly.

06:58:12.240 That's something that it opens you up to a lot of prejudice you got to think about.

06:58:15.640 So, if you're leaving, you can't linger.

06:58:19.660 So, do you want to return?

06:58:21.560 Yeah.

06:58:22.160 What?

06:58:23.860 If somebody's going to leave the podcast, you don't get to hang out behind the scenes.

06:58:28.940 Yeah, absolutely.

06:58:30.020 I'm going to go.

06:58:31.040 I'm so sorry.

06:58:31.860 No, I'm going to go.

06:58:32.800 I'm sorry.

06:58:34.440 I appreciate it.

06:58:35.520 Yeah.

06:58:36.160 Yeah.

06:58:36.520 So, you forgot, maybe is it 20 to 30?

06:58:42.700 It's probably like a little bit more than that.

06:58:45.580 What do you mean?

06:58:46.240 Okay.

06:58:48.060 What about, what's going on here?

06:58:50.020 What are you guys doing?

06:58:50.720 They're just shifting.

06:58:51.800 It's like very squished over here.

06:58:54.760 All right.

06:58:55.300 Yeah.

06:58:55.520 Can we get body count?

06:59:01.840 Five men, two women.

06:59:04.760 I would rather not share on the podcast, but if I were asked on a date, probably like the

06:59:10.240 second or third date, and if the other person on the date also shared their body count, then

06:59:14.620 I would.

06:59:16.640 I'm sorry.

06:59:17.280 Could you repeat it?

06:59:17.880 That's all right.

06:59:18.340 I was just saying I won't share on a podcast, but if I were on a date and I were asked, then

06:59:23.220 I would share on the date.

06:59:24.560 Do you want to do a ballpark?

06:59:25.840 Do you want to do a ranch?

06:59:26.460 If the other person was also sharing. 0.98

06:59:29.160 So, you will admit to doing like all kinds of degenerate sex acts. 1.00

06:59:35.180 You're essentially a prostitute. 1.00

06:59:36.900 I'm not a prostitute. 0.99

06:59:37.880 I've never had sex for money.

06:59:40.100 Do you engage in acts that sexually gratify men in person?

06:59:44.440 No.

06:59:44.720 All of my clients are welcome to touch themselves if they behave themselves, but I do not touch 0.98

06:59:50.020 their genitals. 0.98

06:59:51.160 For sure. 0.99

06:59:51.520 That's still prostitution. 1.00

06:59:53.100 I disagree.

06:59:53.980 But we're not going to have like a debate, a definitional debate.

06:59:57.720 Okay.

06:59:57.940 Body count, please.

06:59:59.680 I've been married twice, say at least two.

07:00:04.620 Both my relationships have been long term.

07:00:08.300 No, no, no.

07:00:09.940 When we have somebody.

07:00:12.380 Okay.

07:00:13.140 Do you want a ballpark?

07:00:14.060 Do you want to give a ballpark?

07:00:15.160 I mean, I would say, I guess two and a half because I had, I mean, I was a teenager and

07:00:21.760 I've fooled around with the boy, but.

07:00:23.520 Can you tilt your microphone down, please?

07:00:25.020 I'm sorry.

07:00:27.780 Okay.

07:00:28.220 You won't answer.

07:00:28.860 What about you?

07:00:30.960 Yeah.

07:00:31.360 I mean, I'm not going to answer too.

07:00:32.840 And respectfully, we do talk about chivalry and chivalry again.

07:00:36.400 As you said, it's coming from the medieval knights.

07:00:38.100 It's coming from Arturian legends.

07:00:39.500 And I just don't think the, I don't know, behavior among this otherwise has been necessarily very

07:00:47.380 chivalrous to the women who have come out here today.

07:00:49.660 What are you talking about?

07:00:50.500 How does that pertain to the question at hand?

07:00:52.180 No, they aren't chivalrous.

07:00:53.520 I know, but it's just obvious that a lot of women have been made uncomfortable. 1.00

07:00:57.940 I mean, two women have left the show early. 1.00

07:01:00.000 It's because it's late.

07:01:01.780 It has nothing to do with, uh, yeah.

07:01:04.840 But what is your actual objection to the question?

07:01:07.420 Is that, is it related to this?

07:01:08.940 Yeah.

07:01:10.820 I mean, I just don't think it's something you need to share publicly.

07:01:14.580 Then have you watched the podcast?

07:01:17.180 Yes.

07:01:17.580 Yeah.

07:01:17.740 I have watched some things and I decided I didn't want to answer it before I came on.

07:01:21.440 Well, that's fine.

07:01:22.180 You don't have to answer it, but you are aware, like, I don't see how you can raise this criticism.

07:01:26.700 If you're aware that is a question that is asked, like, you're not surprised that the

07:01:30.940 question is being asked.

07:01:32.080 No.

07:01:32.340 And as far as chivalry, I'm not dating any of you.

07:01:34.440 This is a dating discussion show.

07:01:36.480 So body count is a component.

07:01:39.120 It's something that men care about and something that women can care about or do care about.

07:01:44.080 So I don't see how this is like somehow, uh, like an inappropriate question to ask on

07:01:50.000 an adversarial controversial known to be controversial dating podcast.

07:01:55.080 I don't, I don't see how this would establish a lacking of chivalry.

07:01:59.420 No, not the question in particular, but just, you know, go ahead and make your credit.

07:02:06.480 Okay.

07:02:06.640 Make your criticism.

07:02:07.580 Go ahead.

07:02:10.240 I mean, I just made it.

07:02:11.580 I think that.

07:02:12.300 Well, I know your criticism is now going to extend beyond just the fact that I'm asking

07:02:17.260 the body count question.

07:02:18.300 I don't think that that's inherently inappropriate.

07:02:20.040 You want to make a criticism as to what?

07:02:23.460 I guess I just didn't expect it to be as high stress of an environment.

07:02:32.080 I mean, this time you've been very exacerbated.

07:02:35.240 She was over there like sign earlier and you're kind of like, Oh my God, like stop sign and

07:02:39.280 all of that.

07:02:39.920 It's just, it's a, she's creating.

07:02:41.460 We, if you've agreed to come on the podcast and the podcast has rules and we remind you

07:02:48.780 of the rules repeatedly and you break the rules, that's going to result in frustration.

07:02:57.880 Have you ever dated a guy and he continued to make the same mistake over and over and

07:03:01.540 over and you got frustrated?

07:03:02.620 Yeah.

07:03:04.300 And naturally, I mean, earlier, naturally, that's a perfect word to describe it naturally.

07:03:10.240 So look, you guys have not been exactly, uh, this isn't even about the body count thing.

07:03:15.660 You guys have not been particularly, uh, following some of our rules.

07:03:21.540 You've been kind of difficult.

07:03:22.920 Some of you have been feral.

07:03:24.160 There's been massive amounts of interrupting.

07:03:26.600 There's been tons of bad faith conversation.

07:03:29.220 You've been okay.

07:03:29.880 By the way, she's been, she's been fine.

07:03:32.620 But now she's levying a criticism towards me about the, uh, and it's like, if you poke

07:03:40.420 somebody enough, they're going to get frustrated.

07:03:43.060 And it's like, I'm the one running the show.

07:03:45.220 I'm trying to keep everything like, uh, moving along.

07:03:49.900 So I have a higher burden than every single one of you panelists here.

07:03:56.700 There has been interruptions on both sides.

07:03:59.200 Let's just like put that out there.

07:04:01.180 Yes.

07:04:01.400 I'm the host.

07:04:01.820 I'm going to have to interrupt.

07:04:03.300 Yeah, that's fine for your hostal duties.

07:04:05.100 Yes.

07:04:05.360 But there has been some discussions where people have been getting cut off, including myself,

07:04:09.300 where I wasn't able to finish a sentence.

07:04:11.660 And then I had to defer to the person that was speaking.

07:04:14.820 So I'm just saying.

07:04:16.440 You've been okay too.

07:04:17.480 And if I may, you know, earlier you had said that men, they have easier jobs nowadays going

07:04:22.720 out, not working in the fields.

07:04:24.580 Frankly, I'd rather be in a coal mine than do your job.

07:04:27.060 I think it's difficult.

07:04:27.800 So, you know, I respect it for that.

07:04:30.680 And I just, I just wanted to say it because that was how I was feeling.

07:04:33.840 That was one of the rules that we read off at the beginning to say how you feel.

07:04:36.980 Don't hold back in your full totality.

07:04:39.360 So, okay.

07:04:42.100 So now it's just like a meta conversation, a meta criticism of the podcast.

07:04:47.180 Yeah, I mean, I guess I didn't come in necessarily with the impression that this was helping the

07:04:57.880 lives of young men and of all people in general.

07:05:03.780 But, you know.

07:05:06.520 Have you felt different like at the beginning of the show or before the show until now and

07:05:09.760 what you think it like represents and stands for?

07:05:12.060 Yeah, I guess.

07:05:14.740 I mean, it's just, it's a frustrating debate.

07:05:19.820 I think it's frustrating for pretty much everybody involved.

07:05:22.800 But people keep coming back and streaming every Sunday.

07:05:25.200 I came on because I was like, this is clickbait vibes.

07:05:28.500 How is it clickbait?

07:05:30.000 I felt the same.

07:05:31.020 I mean, like the clips.

07:05:32.480 No, not in a bad way.

07:05:33.660 I'm not saying in a bad way.

07:05:34.880 I'm saying in a good way.

07:05:36.440 This is, I mean, the structure of the show, which I understand.

07:05:39.860 It's a very long show, seven hours, and then you can get 30 second content clips that can

07:05:45.520 be posted on social media for like a week.

07:05:48.680 And so that's the nature of the podcast, which I totally understand.

07:05:53.060 And I knew personally, and maybe you didn't know or you weren't aware that this was going

07:05:58.140 to turn into this kind of a situation.

07:05:59.880 But I knew that being conservative, but not conservative to the degree that they would

07:06:06.120 like to label it is going to put me on the opposing side.

07:06:10.420 So at least I was prepared for that.

07:06:12.040 And I think it showed, I mean, I kind of proved myself right.

07:06:15.400 You know, first, when you guys thought I was going to be 100% on whatever it is that you

07:06:20.580 guys said, I was even on the other side of the table.

07:06:22.920 And when, you know, I had a different opinion, now I'm on the opposing side of the table.

07:06:27.840 I think tone matters.

07:06:29.560 Maybe that's what you're talking about.

07:06:31.540 The kind of tone that you use when you're talking to people, debating with people, it

07:06:35.240 can be kind of condescending.

07:06:36.860 You know, somebody makes a mistake, maybe a nicer tone or more gentlemanly tone would

07:06:43.320 kind of prove that.

07:06:44.480 It literally doesn't work. 0.99

07:06:45.720 That's totally this feminine view, like this empathy shit. 1.00

07:06:50.280 And that's how, oh my God, was Nathan very polite when he told you guys not to interrupt 0.99

07:06:58.380 one person speaking at a time when he was going over all the pre-show instructions?

07:07:02.960 Yes, he's been the most polite.

07:07:04.400 And then did we, did we, did we, I was just sitting here.

07:07:07.480 Did we provide you even before the show in our pre-show notes, sort of, uh, you know, uh,

07:07:13.660 no interrupting one person speaking at a time.

07:07:16.300 So it's like when somebody repeatedly, repeatedly continues to break our rules, makes mistakes

07:07:28.220 and just isn't, and they're being bad faith and they're, they're in your case, this entire

07:07:36.680 night, I don't think you understand how frustrating it is to attempt to have a logical conversation

07:07:41.160 with somebody and they straw man your positions all night.

07:07:44.620 They misrepresent your positions all night.

07:07:47.200 It's like that Jordan Peterson interview with Kathy Newman.

07:07:50.660 So what you're saying is, no, that's not what happened.

07:07:54.160 And it's incredibly frustrating to be in that kind of conversation where somebody can't be

07:07:59.320 charitable to your views.

07:08:00.940 They don't understand, they're, they're not, uh, understanding what you're saying.

07:08:04.760 And so, yes, that's going to be frustrating. 0.99

07:08:07.420 And in addition to that, there's a bunch of shit behind the scenes, fucking, uh, this 0.98

07:08:13.200 isn't anything to do with Nathan. 0.99

07:08:14.720 Uh, my primary producer, Mary called out on a big show.

07:08:20.320 It's Nathan's first day doing a, and this isn't anything, this isn't Nathan's fault, but

07:08:25.980 that, that puts higher burden on me to, you know, do certain things.

07:08:30.720 I don't have my entire team here.

07:08:32.260 That's going to have an impact.

07:08:34.060 And then in addition to that, people are interrupting.

07:08:37.160 People are not deferring to me when I'm trying to move things along and constantly being interrupted.

07:08:42.260 Yeah.

07:08:42.660 That's going to eventually get, that's going to get on your nerves.

07:08:46.140 So it's like, literally remember Nate at the very beginning of the show, the very top

07:08:50.540 of the show, Nathan gave his instructions in our pre-show instructions.

07:08:55.120 We say, don't interrupt.

07:08:56.580 It's really important to speak close to the mic.

07:08:58.340 And then I reiterated it for at least a third time right before the show, speak close to

07:09:04.140 the microphone, literally the first words out of a panel or the first action out of a

07:09:08.640 panelist mouth, you, you were not speaking close to the microphone.

07:09:12.600 And that just sets the, that sets the stage for just.

07:09:17.560 You get very, like, and I get the frustration.

07:09:20.200 There's just people that I guess react to differently to the frustration.

07:09:24.600 For example, you know, no relationship is perfect, you know, boyfriend, girlfriend.

07:09:29.880 But I think if I'm extremely frustrated with my boyfriend, the way that I tell him things

07:09:36.020 to correct his behavior, he tells me something to correct something that I've done.

07:09:41.960 If he told me things in a certain tone, a certain way, I am more receptive to it versus

07:09:47.320 being, you know, more pushed back.

07:09:49.460 And I, would you consider yourself a little bit more, you know, confrontational in your

07:09:54.960 way, your tone of talking to people in comparison to most?

07:10:00.800 Yes, I do.

07:10:02.220 Okay.

07:10:02.540 See, that's just a personality trait that may go well or may not go well with people,

07:10:08.060 with certain people.

07:10:09.420 And if, you know, it was me, that kind of tone doesn't work for a relationship.

07:10:14.200 So you and I, this isn't a relationship, this is a podcast, where people can get, see, I 0.97

07:10:20.740 can't even, some of the fucking people in the chat are fucking not on my side on this. 0.99

07:10:27.540 Mods, you can just fucking ban them. 0.99

07:10:29.160 I don't care. 0.99

07:10:29.980 The reality is, what's that saying? 1.00

07:10:35.800 Damned if you're due, damned if you're don't. 0.99

07:10:38.140 Basically, I get criticism. 0.99

07:10:40.020 Brian, you're not being assertive enough with the guests.

07:10:44.340 The guests are over-talking. 0.99

07:10:45.940 You're just, guys, doing a fucking panel show is fucking difficult. 0.99

07:10:51.780 Everybody wants to talk. 1.00

07:10:53.220 Most of these people have never been on a fucking podcast. 0.99

07:10:55.880 They don't know good microphone discipline. 1.00

07:10:58.200 They don't know, like, they don't understand the interrupting.

07:11:03.380 They don't understand any of this stuff.

07:11:05.220 And it's like, when you have to repeat yourself 10, 20, 30 times, yeah, you're going to get frustrated.

07:11:10.080 And I don't know what to say.

07:11:11.720 Like, yes, my tone is going to be stern. 0.98

07:11:14.400 Like, I'm not, pretty please, could you do the thing that I asked you to do for the fucking 10th time? 0.98

07:11:20.160 No. 1.00

07:11:20.560 It's like, knock it, fuck it. 1.00

07:11:22.000 Be an adult. 1.00

07:11:23.060 Follow our rules. 1.00

07:11:24.120 Knock it the fuck off. 0.99

07:11:25.660 That's it. 0.98

07:11:26.640 I agree with, you know, telling people to knock things off if they don't do it 10 times.

07:11:31.680 I think using curse words at women is not very chivalrous and really knocks out points when it comes to getting your point across.

07:11:38.800 Okay, well, I think you being bad faith the entire night and straw manning. 0.51

07:11:41.500 I have not.

07:11:42.440 I have not.

07:11:42.900 You don't even know what a straw man is.

07:11:44.260 You straw man the entire night.

07:11:45.480 You're bad faith the entire night.

07:11:46.240 I come here to say exactly what I believe in, which is I think that, you know, I believe in traditional relationships and marriage.

07:11:54.580 I think that women, and nowadays we have a different role for women, and I think you can have a career and also be traditional.

07:12:02.400 That's all that I've, I mean, if people are watching now, they can run it back and see.

07:12:06.680 Nothing is extremist or out of the ordinary, and I think that just has not been very well received.

07:12:13.940 But, again, this is that kind of a podcast, and you believe traditional has to be trad wife, and anybody outside of that is, you know, not traditional, not conservative.

07:12:26.220 And I'm just here because I want to mend relationships between men and women.

07:12:31.420 In fact, I want to give men tips on how to land a woman and get married and that kind of stuff. 0.99

07:12:37.820 I've had really good success with advising people on it, and I guess men are watching this show this late at night because they want to know what women think, right?

07:12:49.520 How women think so that they can get into a relationship with them. 1.00

07:12:53.200 That's what we're here to do.

07:12:57.160 Do you want more marriages? 0.99

07:12:59.240 Do you want more relationships to happen, or are you trying to divide the sexes with your show? 0.59

07:13:03.280 Or do you think that your show helps unite the sexes or divide the sexes?

07:13:09.520 I want people to have great relationships.

07:13:12.400 Do you think your show helps do that?

07:13:15.840 I do.

07:13:17.440 Okay.

07:13:18.040 I disagree with that.

07:13:19.900 That's why I'm here.

07:13:21.280 You disagree.

07:13:22.200 Yes, but I like to go into the wolf's den.

07:13:25.480 I don't like to preach to the choir.

07:13:27.080 What evidence do you have that it is divisive, and do you have anything that would back up this assertion?

07:13:37.100 Yes.

07:13:37.560 I think that women are very often devalued on the show. 1.00

07:13:41.680 I think that the show...

07:13:42.620 What does it...

07:13:43.120 Oh, my God. 1.00

07:13:43.700 You're all over the fucking place. 1.00

07:13:44.800 I think that the show... 0.99

07:13:45.380 Your claim is, is it broadly societally divisive to the viewers or to the audience?

07:13:50.200 So I'll put one example.

07:13:51.380 What does that have to do with the women at the table? 1.00

07:13:54.140 One example, I'm very impressed at the show's ability to gather this kind of an audience.

07:14:02.520 There's a lot of women here that do sex work, right? 1.00

07:14:05.640 And they're a very small percentage of the population.

07:14:08.780 So they're not a representation, an accurate representation at all, of most women.

07:14:14.260 How's that relevant to your...

07:14:15.640 Irrelevant.

07:14:16.240 Most women are not... 1.00

07:14:16.640 I'm going to be like a lawyer.

07:14:17.620 You know when the...

07:14:17.980 Most women are not sexually promiscuous.

07:14:18.960 You know how lawyers just like...

07:14:20.140 Irrelevant.

07:14:20.680 What are the other things?

07:14:21.920 Irrelevant.

07:14:22.320 Most women are not sexually promiscuous.

07:14:25.680 Most women are not... 1.00

07:14:26.800 Well, what is...

07:14:27.620 Hold on.

07:14:28.640 That's not true.

07:14:29.580 Yeah.

07:14:30.180 What do you consider a promiscuity?

07:14:31.320 In your opinion, right?

07:14:31.460 Not just my opinion.

07:14:32.560 Well, hang on, hang on.

07:14:33.280 Let her define it.

07:14:34.100 What is promiscuity?

07:14:36.240 How many bodies is promiscuous? 0.84

07:14:38.360 I can't put a number on it, but I will say...

07:14:40.960 So then how can you say most women aren't that if you can't put a number on it? 0.98

07:14:44.380 I will say that I think the point of the show...

07:14:45.040 I will say that I need you to answer the question.

07:14:46.820 Sure.

07:14:47.140 What was your question?

07:14:48.320 What...

07:14:48.800 When you say promiscuous, what does that mean?

07:14:51.400 Um, having sex outside of solid relationships, I think that that is being more sexually liberated 0.64

07:14:59.500 or promiscuous. 0.75

07:15:00.760 Yes.

07:15:01.160 Okay.

07:15:01.580 Now, I'm not asking about more.

07:15:03.260 I'm asking what is promiscuous?

07:15:05.720 Um, anything that, you know, one night stands or, you know, unprotected sex or, you know,

07:15:13.700 just sex...

07:15:14.380 So as long as a woman's having protected sex, she's not promiscuous? 0.98

07:15:17.380 No, no.

07:15:17.400 I'm saying additional examples to that.

07:15:19.000 Okay.

07:15:19.080 I think the ideal should be sex in a committed relationship where you first, where you first

07:15:24.600 vet the person so that you don't just start it.

07:15:28.120 If a woman's had sex with 20 men, do you consider that promiscuous in and of itself?

07:15:33.260 Uh, if I ask that question to an 80-year-old woman and she tells me 20, I'd probably be 0.51

07:15:38.340 like, probably not, grandma.

07:15:40.420 You had your years.

07:15:40.940 Okay.

07:15:41.160 So 20, 20 bodies is not promiscuous.

07:15:43.580 In 80 years.

07:15:43.720 Okay.

07:15:44.080 So 20, 20 bodies is not necessarily promiscuous.

07:15:47.300 No.

07:15:47.960 Would you say so?

07:15:48.220 Hang on.

07:15:48.740 30, 30 bodies?

07:15:50.240 I, it depends.

07:15:51.540 I, again, don't want to be the person to judge that, but my original question was...

07:15:56.660 Well, hang on, hang on.

07:15:57.600 The original question doesn't make sense unless we have an answer to this question because

07:16:01.560 we don't know what you mean by promiscuous.

07:16:04.420 Or promiscuous?

07:16:05.060 Is it promiscuous?

07:16:06.420 I personally put that more on the promiscuous side, yes.

07:16:09.460 At about 30?

07:16:11.420 Yeah, sure.

07:16:12.520 Okay, but not 20.

07:16:13.960 I, if it's grandma who lived her life...

07:16:16.860 She's 50.

07:16:17.620 She's 50.

07:16:18.320 Is a 50-year-old with 20 bodies promiscuous?

07:16:20.560 I don't know.

07:16:21.740 How about the...

07:16:22.000 She just won't take a stand on anything or put labels on anything.

07:16:24.420 There's no point in RBI.

07:16:25.400 Wait, how about a 20-year-old?

07:16:26.840 How about a 20-year-old who has 20 bodies?

07:16:31.460 I think that they made very difficult, bad choices.

07:16:35.120 Are they promiscuous?

07:16:35.420 Are they promiscuous? 0.91

07:16:36.340 Yeah. 0.91

07:16:36.780 How about 10 bodies?

07:16:39.060 At 20 years old, you know...

07:16:41.480 Are they promiscuous?

07:16:42.980 I think so, personally, for my standards.

07:16:46.760 Five bodies.

07:16:47.300 I'm going to head out.

07:16:48.320 I'm sorry.

07:16:48.900 I do have to drive two hours, but I really enjoyed being on the show.

07:16:51.680 Do you want to stay for your nuts?

07:16:53.720 My what?

07:16:54.360 Your nuts.

07:16:54.540 You need to do your nuts.

07:16:55.760 I'm going to try to wrap this soon.

07:16:57.720 Yeah.

07:16:58.560 But my original point is...

07:17:00.140 Is that...

07:17:00.840 Well, I answered the question.

07:17:01.820 Hang on.

07:17:02.460 It's five...

07:17:03.260 Is five at 20 promiscuous?

07:17:04.920 I think this show doesn't help bridge the gender war gap by telling men that most women are sex workers. 0.83

07:17:12.960 Well, hang on. 1.00

07:17:13.600 Well, again with the fucking straw man, man. 1.00

07:17:15.880 It doesn't do that. 1.00

07:17:17.020 Or that this is a...

07:17:17.640 That's such...

07:17:18.260 Oh, my God, bro.

07:17:18.760 Or that this is a valid representation of most women. 1.00

07:17:21.600 No, no, no, no, no.

07:17:21.880 When have I...

07:17:22.680 It's not.

07:17:23.320 If anybody...

07:17:24.440 If any...

07:17:25.480 Let's make a bet.

07:17:26.720 Repeat what you just said. 0.98

07:17:27.760 This show says that most women are sex workers. 1.00

07:17:29.920 No. 0.96

07:17:30.340 No, no. 1.00

07:17:30.640 Don't fucking lie. 1.00

07:17:32.300 Repeat what you said. 1.00

07:17:33.460 And that's...

07:17:34.140 See the tone. 0.99

07:17:34.980 Don't fucking lie. 1.00

07:17:35.480 Yeah, because you're lying about me. 0.99

07:17:36.960 Have I said that to you? 1.00

07:17:37.220 You're literally slandering my fucking show. 1.00

07:17:39.540 You're lying. 1.00

07:17:40.340 I'm not slandering the show.

07:17:41.520 Yes, men have issues with lies.

07:17:43.420 I know maybe you don't.

07:17:44.900 I do.

07:17:45.220 But men...

07:17:45.540 Okay, so repeat what you said.

07:17:47.440 I said that this...

07:17:48.800 And don't change it.

07:17:49.740 This show has mostly...

07:17:51.740 What?

07:17:52.840 A great percentage.

07:17:53.680 That's not what... 1.00

07:17:54.200 You're such a fucking pathological liar. 1.00

07:17:57.380 Repeat what you said. 1.00

07:17:58.540 This show gathers a...

07:17:59.740 Surprisingly, a large amount of sex workers... 1.00

07:18:02.740 That's not what you said. 1.00

07:18:03.820 You're a liar. 0.99

07:18:04.600 That's not what you said. 1.00

07:18:05.720 You're a liar. 0.96

07:18:06.720 Is that not what I originally said and opened this entire conversation with? 0.99

07:18:11.040 Two points.

07:18:11.480 Great straw man. 1.00

07:18:12.580 You're a liar. 1.00

07:18:13.520 Let me clarify. 0.99

07:18:14.780 She's not a liar.

07:18:15.760 That is what she said.

07:18:16.380 That's not what she said. 1.00

07:18:17.640 You're a fucking liar and a gas liar. 1.00

07:18:19.740 Everybody is. 1.00

07:18:20.080 I'm not gasolating.

07:18:20.860 You're literally gaslighting.

07:18:22.060 Play it back.

07:18:22.400 I'll tell you...

07:18:23.320 Okay.

07:18:23.880 No, but let's do a bet.

07:18:25.240 Let's do a bet.

07:18:26.100 We should.

07:18:26.540 Will you pay me $100,000?

07:18:28.420 I don't have $100,000, but I know that I opened up...

07:18:31.880 Do you have $10,000?

07:18:33.000 But I opened up this argument by saying that a great majority of women in the show are sex workers. 0.95

07:18:37.500 That's not what you said.

07:18:39.020 That is what she said.

07:18:39.700 That is not what you said.

07:18:41.420 No, it's not a majority.

07:18:42.960 Hold on.

07:18:43.440 Two points.

07:18:44.220 Yes.

07:18:45.140 First, we'll get into the straw man. 0.97

07:18:46.820 You were saying that I think that a majority of women are sex workers. 1.00

07:18:52.180 Is that what she said?

07:18:52.960 If I said that, if I said that, if I said that, I misspoke. 1.00

07:18:57.300 That's what you fucking said. 1.00

07:18:58.420 What she said is you're teaching men that the majority of men or women are sex workers. 1.00

07:19:05.640 No, you said sex workers.

07:19:06.940 Oh, okay.

07:19:07.180 So I misspoke there. 0.96

07:19:08.820 Promiscuous. 0.99

07:19:09.420 Sexually promiscuous. 0.92

07:19:10.380 And so to that point, when we say sexually promiscuous, what does promiscuous mean to you? 0.58

07:19:18.980 For me, for my standards, I think it's having sex outside of committed, stable relationships.

07:19:26.780 So if you've had five, if you've had 10 stable...

07:19:29.840 And another additional qualifier to that is that the point of those relationships is marriage,

07:19:35.700 not just dating to date.

07:19:37.040 Okay, so you've had 10, let's say you're 26, you've had 10 committed relationships.

07:19:44.020 They all failed pretty quickly.

07:19:46.400 That's very bad.

07:19:47.100 Is that promiscuous?

07:19:48.280 That's...

07:19:48.920 Is that promiscuous?

07:19:50.060 I think that's bad decision making.

07:19:51.240 But is it promiscuous though?

07:19:52.620 And yes, I would qualify it as that.

07:19:55.060 Okay.

07:19:55.340 Personally.

07:19:55.960 Seven at 26?

07:19:58.920 I don't know.

07:20:00.040 At 26, it depends how early on you started relationships.

07:20:03.460 So here's the problem.

07:20:04.280 What you're doing is you're utilizing...

07:20:06.280 Do you think it's high?

07:20:07.260 Yeah.

07:20:07.460 27 at 27?

07:20:08.600 Yeah.

07:20:08.960 Seven at 26?

07:20:09.700 Yes, of course it is.

07:20:10.960 What you're doing is you're utilizing...

07:20:12.340 Put it in the research tab.

07:20:13.300 You're utilizing equivocation.

07:20:14.700 Put it in the research tab.

07:20:14.860 Somebody in the discord.

07:20:15.700 You're utilizing equivocation.

07:20:17.140 So when you say that you're teaching women that...

07:20:20.680 Or teaching men that women are promiscuous, right? 0.99

07:20:23.580 And then you say most women are not promiscuous. 1.00

07:20:26.140 Yeah.

07:20:26.440 You fail to actually identify to us what the numbers are for promiscuity.

07:20:32.400 So how could we even check the claim?

07:20:34.900 Like if I were to say most women at 25... 1.00

07:20:38.320 Hang on.

07:20:38.640 Stop.

07:20:39.000 If most women have a body count at 25 of above X, would that mean that most women are promiscuous? 1.00

07:20:45.820 You won't actually commit to that position.

07:20:48.220 Uh, I have my personal opinions on it, but you can Google, I guess based on surveys, because

07:20:54.280 there's no way to find this out for sure, but you can Google based on surveys, how many

07:20:59.120 average amount of sexual partners men and women have had, and you can look that up.

07:21:04.020 And then I am curious to know if you believe that number is high, the average amount per

07:21:09.480 men, per male, per, you know, female, and then we can have an honest conversation because

07:21:14.660 that number is actually not very high.

07:21:16.980 What is it?

07:21:17.400 I don't know.

07:21:18.140 I think it's about three, four.

07:21:20.040 Are you trying to say that modern society is not promiscuous?

07:21:23.220 Three or four.

07:21:24.200 That's wild.

07:21:24.540 This girl lives in Miami too.

07:21:25.920 Those Miami girls are, that's crazy. 1.00

07:21:28.380 That is wild. 0.98

07:21:28.940 She lives in Florida.

07:21:30.080 Bro, women will have a body count of 10. 1.00

07:21:33.140 Just because you live somewhere does not make you promiscuous.

07:21:34.720 Women will have a body count of 10 by the time they graduate high school. 1.00

07:21:38.100 Not all women, not all women, but like a girl, a liberal girl.

07:21:42.660 Most women don't. 1.00

07:21:43.780 A liberal girl.

07:21:44.500 Hold on.

07:21:44.780 In 2026, a liberal girl who goes to like, uh, let's say a medium sized college by the

07:21:52.360 time she's done graduated.

07:21:54.560 Not all women to be clear. 0.96

07:21:56.420 Most women is my opinion. 1.00

07:21:58.040 Why don't you Google what's based on surveys?

07:22:00.220 What's the average body count?

07:22:01.780 Women do surveys are not helpful at all on this because you can't have a factual 10 1.00

07:22:07.800 at 26 between four to 10 at 26.

07:22:11.380 That's what, uh, that's what he said.

07:22:13.340 That would be promiscuous in your opinion.

07:22:15.520 Have you ever had a one night stand?

07:22:17.120 Of course you wouldn't admit it on the show.

07:22:19.120 No, but I have not.

07:22:20.540 So if you have you ever, how about this?

07:22:22.320 Have you ever slept with a man or done anything sexual with a man, uh, within 24 hours of

07:22:27.560 meeting him?

07:22:28.300 No.

07:22:28.840 Hmm.

07:22:29.440 Doubtful.

07:22:29.980 In any case.

07:22:30.780 Okay.

07:22:31.120 So again, I'll explain to you personal character.

07:22:33.800 Well, just like you're lying too.

07:22:35.520 Yeah.

07:22:35.720 Just like you lied and slandered about me.

07:22:37.960 So what, what part of that, what did I say?

07:22:40.060 Yeah.

07:22:40.240 So here's the slander.

07:22:41.560 You think that the majority name it because you just told me that I'm lying about when I'm

07:22:45.800 about to, I'm about to, so yeah, the slander here is you're basically misrepresenting the,

07:22:51.780 uh, the guest selection that we have on the show. 0.67

07:22:54.420 You claim that the majority of the guests we've had on the show are sex workers.

07:22:57.760 This is just factually completely untrue.

07:23:00.620 The minority of our guests are sex workers and we've taken statistics on this.

07:23:05.400 It's 20, it's 15 to 20% of all our total guests are sex workers. 1.00

07:23:10.860 Now you might look around and you're like, well, you go one, two, three, four, five here.

07:23:14.260 We're, we've had 2000 guests on the show.

07:23:16.940 Have you done a, uh, have you done record keeping?

07:23:20.280 Have you looked back at all our shows and made a determination just because you see, hold

07:23:25.420 on.

07:23:25.740 If, if this panel was all black people, would that mean we've only brought black people

07:23:30.200 on the show? 0.78

07:23:30.900 No, absolutely not.

07:23:31.960 Right.

07:23:32.320 So logically, just because, uh, we have sex worker, sex worker, sex worker, sex worker,

07:23:37.440 sex worker.

07:23:37.820 That's a majority already. 0.97

07:23:39.440 That would be the ones that.

07:23:40.600 So, so because they're.

07:23:41.980 What was the percentage of this panel, Brian?

07:23:44.260 The women who, hold on. 0.96

07:23:45.500 The women who, um, who left were not sex workers. 0.68

07:23:50.080 So actually we have a majority now, but the majority prior.

07:23:55.100 One of them was.

07:23:55.800 Who?

07:23:56.360 The one?

07:23:56.920 The bikini girl.

07:23:58.520 Bikini. 0.92

07:23:58.840 Kayla?

07:23:59.360 She sells photos of herself in bikini.

07:24:01.280 Well.

07:24:02.060 On a sex worker website.

07:24:03.720 That's not sex worker. 1.00

07:24:04.300 I think it was like a family, it's like a family friendly.

07:24:07.660 I think.

07:24:08.320 I'm going to say.

07:24:09.220 Okay.

07:24:09.640 Maybe it's a gray area for her, but the other girl who left, not a sex worker. 1.00

07:24:14.060 Yes.

07:24:14.440 Uh, in any case, I don't see how that would establish.

07:24:17.460 So here, is this the logic? 0.58

07:24:19.520 Well, the majority of the women tonight are sex workers. 1.00

07:24:23.580 Ergo. 0.99

07:24:23.980 The majority of all the guests you've ever had on the show must be sex workers. 0.90

07:24:28.800 The, from what I've seen in the past, yes.

07:24:31.820 I have not followed the whatever podcast from its initial stages.

07:24:35.540 We keep statistics.

07:24:36.760 So maybe at the initial stages, it was a lot less, you know, uh, I guess the percentage

07:24:42.200 of women that work in the sex industry, it was a lot less. 1.00

07:24:45.220 But as the podcast went on, then maybe you realized you probably get a lot more views

07:24:53.300 by having women.

07:24:54.200 It's not true at all.

07:24:55.660 It's a total straw man.

07:24:57.180 It's again, a total straw man.

07:24:59.340 It's a total fabrication.

07:25:01.100 No, I see clips on, on social media.

07:25:04.960 It's so impossible to argue with somebody like this.

07:25:07.520 You've seen clips.

07:25:08.600 Our most, I mean, this is the metric I would use.

07:25:11.700 Our most viral moments were not with women who were sex workers. 0.97

07:25:16.200 Some of our best discussions were not necessarily with women who were sex workers.

07:25:20.760 So again, it's a total misrepresentation.

07:25:22.600 It's a total straw man.

07:25:23.580 And I'm providing the facts to you directly as the person who oversees the show, who does

07:25:29.660 the guest booking, who does the guest procurement.

07:25:32.460 It's 15 to 20%.

07:25:34.000 15 to 20%.

07:25:34.980 That is correct.

07:25:35.980 Which is still much higher than the less than 1% of women that actually are sex workers. 1.00

07:25:38.980 That's a great Maude and Bailey.

07:25:40.400 Thank you for shifting the goalposts, Maude and Bailey.

07:25:43.060 No, that's a big percentage difference.

07:25:45.340 Yes, it is higher than the population.

07:25:47.020 Although technically, if you, if you're looking at like the, between the ages of 18 to 25,

07:25:51.580 something like 10% of.

07:25:52.780 My original argument.

07:25:54.180 Hold on.

07:25:54.680 Stop interrupting.

07:25:55.820 This podcast misrepresents the actual amount of women that do have these kinds of backgrounds. 0.90

07:25:59.760 No, it doesn't.

07:26:00.380 I see.

07:26:00.780 No, it doesn't.

07:26:01.420 As far as representation goes, you mean?

07:26:03.560 Yeah.

07:26:04.220 Here's the thing.

07:26:05.120 You're exploring modern dating, right?

07:26:07.000 Mm-hmm.

07:26:07.200 Now, did you see what you did there?

07:26:09.520 You said that the podcast does not adequately represent the amount of total women who are 0.95

07:26:15.700 sex workers. 0.62

07:26:16.620 But what is the amount of sex workers in the age demographic that Brian has on?

07:26:23.060 And is that overrepresented?

07:26:24.820 Because that would be the real question, wouldn't it?

07:26:27.180 The age demographic.

07:26:28.100 So you won't.

07:26:28.660 Yeah.

07:26:28.920 Hang on.

07:26:29.380 Stop.

07:26:29.740 I'll explain.

07:26:30.600 Okay.

07:26:30.840 So let's assume that the average age of the woman who comes on here is between 18 and 22. 1.00

07:26:35.860 Let's just assume that.

07:26:37.100 Okay.

07:26:37.460 Do you think that the odds of them being a sex worker greatly decrease when you're not

07:26:40.640 actually modeling that against the entire population of women, but only to 18 and 22 0.54

07:26:45.740 year olds?

07:26:46.520 I think most people.

07:26:47.700 Answer that question.

07:26:48.720 I don't know those.

07:26:49.760 Exactly.

07:26:50.380 So how could you say it's an overrepresentation?

07:26:52.580 You don't even know.

07:26:53.780 Because most women that are, yeah, most of the women that do work in the sex industry 1.00

07:26:58.500 are also in the younger category for sure.

07:27:01.840 So how do you know, what, can you look up real quick, Brian, what is the actual percentage

07:27:07.740 of women in that age bracket who are sex workers? 0.77

07:27:11.340 So I actually, much higher.

07:27:12.860 I know it offhand.

07:27:14.000 So it's 18 to 24.

07:27:15.680 It's 10%.

07:27:16.700 10% of women, 18 to 35 or to what age?

07:27:22.400 18 to 24 who are sex workers.

07:27:24.200 18% of women are sex workers.

07:27:26.340 I see.

07:27:27.060 Is that a statistic that you stand by?

07:27:27.800 No, she said 10%.

07:27:29.020 Say it again.

07:27:29.720 I said 18.

07:27:30.780 Okay.

07:27:31.420 Women between the ages of 18 to 24, 10% of them have only fans or are sex workers.

07:27:37.520 That sounds like a very over, that sounds like a wrong statistic and an over-exaggeration.

07:27:43.860 But I would, I don't have a laptop in front of me or my phone to verify those claims.

07:27:49.000 So.

07:27:49.820 We, she has to question all of our stats, but we have to unquestioningly, unquestioningly 1.00

07:27:54.980 accept every single bullshit that she spews. 0.97

07:27:57.500 But can you, can you at least admit that within that age group, it's going to be much higher 0.99

07:28:01.740 than the sample against the entire population of women?

07:28:04.380 Yes, because women are more attractive, very attractive at that age. 0.59

07:28:06.420 Then how would you even know if it's an over-sampling in comparison to the age group, which is most

07:28:11.720 commonly represented on whatever?

07:28:13.180 Hey, Nathan, can you do, just ask chat GPT.

07:28:16.980 Thank you.

07:28:17.280 Here's the question you're going to ask.

07:28:18.980 Percent of women, 18 to 24, who do only fans? 0.99

07:28:23.340 Or sex work in general.

07:28:24.640 You can make it broader.

07:28:25.400 Yeah, well, we'll just keep it to only fans, which would probably lower the percentage.

07:28:30.220 My AI overview here says, recent data estimates that approximately 1.2 to 1.4 million women 0.96

07:28:36.660 aged 18 to 24 in the U.S. are active creators on only fans.

07:28:40.140 This represents roughly 10 to 14% of all women in that specific age group.

07:28:44.720 Nathan, can you pull it up?

07:28:45.560 It's on one platform.

07:28:46.280 Oof.

07:28:47.020 I would love to see that.

07:28:47.860 Some social posts and community estimates suggest that around 1.2 to 1.4 million American women

07:28:52.960 aged 18 to 24 have only fans accounts.

07:28:55.480 If you assume there are about 10 to 10.7 million U.S. women in that age group, that would 0.99

07:29:00.040 imply roughly around 10% to 14% of only fans.

07:29:03.300 Wait, I'm confused.

07:29:04.240 10 to 14%.

07:29:05.100 And isn't it only about 15%?

07:29:08.220 15 to 20, but it's closer to 15.

07:29:11.080 Wow, that sounds like it's completely a representation then, doesn't it? 0.99

07:29:15.020 Boy, you fucked that one up. 0.95

07:29:16.600 No, I thought... 0.97

07:29:17.360 Boy, you fucked that one up, lady. 1.00

07:29:19.000 I thought the number... 0.98

07:29:19.640 I will admit, I thought the number was a lot lower.

07:29:21.400 And by the way, it's actually even better because not all of the OF girls who come on

07:29:26.340 are between the 18 to 26 percentile.

07:29:28.400 So because of that, it actually would lower the amount of only fans girls in that percentile. 0.96

07:29:35.560 So it actually is very possible that he roughly has exactly the representation of only fans

07:29:42.820 girls on versus not only fans girls for the age demographic.

07:29:46.140 Well, not if you count the age bracket of women that you have here. 1.00

07:29:48.680 I'm 32, she's 36, you said.

07:29:51.500 So why don't you increase the age bracket and check the percentage again?

07:29:54.020 Are either of you sex workers?

07:29:55.620 No.

07:29:56.140 Okay, so then it seems like you're representing it just...

07:29:59.940 The percentage would be a lot lower.

07:30:00.420 And it is.

07:30:01.020 It's 0%.

07:30:02.020 Look, it's 0% right now.

07:30:06.960 So again, out of the women here, we go up to the age of 36. 1.00

07:30:11.900 We've got a special talent over here.

07:30:14.280 So why don't you put that same age bracket right now on your laptop? 0.88

07:30:18.360 The youngest girl and the oldest girl.

07:30:19.280 But now we're getting into the weeds.

07:30:21.700 You're shifting the goalposts.

07:30:23.660 No, I'm not.

07:30:24.320 Yes, you are.

07:30:25.160 This is not a progressive conversation.

07:30:25.940 Hold on.

07:30:26.500 Hold on.

07:30:27.100 I'm almost done.

07:30:28.200 I'm almost done.

07:30:29.280 So, man, let me...

07:30:32.020 See, this is what's frustrating.

07:30:34.180 Like, let me...

07:30:35.520 If I'm going to engage, can you guys just let me speak and you don't have to chatter?

07:30:39.700 Because now we're wasting 5-10 seconds.

07:30:42.140 Okay.

07:30:43.020 Your original claim, which was false, was that I'm suggesting that the majority of women are 0.98

07:30:50.500 sex workers or that the majority of the guests that we have on this show are sex workers. 1.00

07:30:55.920 It's not the majority. 0.92

07:30:57.460 They definitely...

07:30:57.880 You said majority.

07:30:59.000 If I did, then I misspoke.

07:31:00.420 But it is definitely...

07:31:01.420 You were mis...

07:31:01.620 Not misspoke.

07:31:02.040 You were mistaken.

07:31:02.380 But it's definitely an over-representation of sex workers naturally.

07:31:06.360 Okay. 0.99

07:31:06.540 But so even if it's 5% over, it's like, so who gives a fuck? 0.98

07:31:11.380 If it's... 0.99

07:31:11.820 Who gives a fuck? 0.99

07:31:12.540 5% would be very slow. 1.00

07:31:14.460 I agree.

07:31:14.980 5% would be very low.

07:31:16.340 Who cares?

07:31:16.820 So let's put the bracket then between 18 to 36.

07:31:19.080 I'm not interested in exploring the data further.

07:31:21.360 And actually...

07:31:21.720 You were just incorrect.

07:31:22.600 And actually looking up the number, I think it'd be closer to maybe 5% or 2% of the population.

07:31:29.240 And that's a small percentage.

07:31:30.460 Yeah.

07:31:30.820 By 80-year-olds?

07:31:32.020 Yeah.

07:31:32.360 Why do you keep on...

07:31:33.260 Not 80-year-olds, but you have on average up to 40 maybe on this podcast.

07:31:38.740 So that would greatly do with the percentage.

07:31:40.080 But I'm not attempting to paint women in this light as if they're all sex workers.

07:31:48.420 I can sit here right now, so if you're just curious as to my actual position, the majority

07:31:53.880 of women are not sex workers.

07:31:56.060 I don't know the exact numbers total.

07:31:58.820 If we were to look at a different age range, 18 to 34, 40, whatever, it's a small minority

07:32:05.920 of women who are sex workers.

07:32:09.200 That's my position.

07:32:10.440 So I'm not putting out there... 0.96

07:32:12.160 By the way, guys, 70% of women are degenerate OnlyFans girls. 1.00

07:32:16.700 That's not what I say. 0.96

07:32:17.860 So you're contending with a position that isn't even forwarded by me.

07:32:22.420 I've never said that you've said that.

07:32:24.060 I say that this show over-represents the amount of women in the industry. 1.00

07:32:28.420 We do not represent women. 1.00

07:32:29.960 We haven't even demonstrated that, though.

07:32:32.540 In my research of your podcast and watching different videos and clips, I personally just

07:32:39.060 noticed that there were a lot of sex workers. 0.99

07:32:40.860 And I thought that maybe you cast sex workers, preferably because it is, you know, entertaining

07:32:47.780 or interesting.

07:32:49.080 Because it's a huge sampling of the population who are in dating age of 18 to 26.

07:32:55.060 It's a massive, massive, massive percentage of the population of women who are in the dating 1.00

07:33:01.980 age of 18 to 26.

07:33:03.960 So not only is it not a massive over-representation, which we just literally established five seconds

07:33:10.920 ago, because we know the percentage of total sex workers who have been on.

07:33:14.800 We could even reduce that by 18 to 26, and it would still be less.

07:33:18.180 If somebody on the street asked me, hey, can you describe the whatever podcast?

07:33:21.740 What kind of people do they bring on?

07:33:23.560 You know, what is their backgrounds?

07:33:24.720 Do you think that it'd be wrong and people would just, you know, say that, no, they don't

07:33:30.240 bring a greater representation of sexual workers?

07:33:31.520 That's a fallacious argument.

07:33:32.860 You're making an appeal to majority.

07:33:34.520 You're making an appeal to majority.

07:33:36.960 What's disingenuous is making an appeal to majority.

07:33:39.280 Wait, can I say, wait, I got the perfect thing.

07:33:41.060 Did you vote for Trump?

07:33:42.260 I did.

07:33:42.840 Are you, okay, are you a Trump supporter?

07:33:45.260 Yes, I am.

07:33:46.320 Okay.

07:33:46.940 So if I were to poll the majority of people in California as to, do you think that Trump

07:33:52.660 is a grapist, they'd probably say yes.

07:33:55.340 Is it true that he is a grapist?

07:33:57.860 Nope.

07:33:58.480 Okay.

07:33:58.920 Okay.

07:33:59.720 So just because, like, if I were to poll the majority of Californians, hey, do you think

07:34:06.080 like ICE is, there's like massive amounts of like misconduct amongst ICE law enforcement

07:34:14.640 officers, and they're like, yeah, I think that there's a lot of, there's a lot.

07:34:18.980 Would that actually prove that it's true or mean it's true?

07:34:22.300 No, but you're making my argument for me.

07:34:24.940 The fact that just because a majority of people say that they believe Trump is a grapist, it

07:34:31.980 doesn't make it true.

07:34:32.920 Just like if you have a larger representation of women with a sex background, it doesn't 0.87

07:34:38.860 mean that most women are promiscuous as a whole. 1.00

07:34:41.840 That would be your argument.

07:34:43.420 Wait.

07:34:43.980 That would be Brian's argument.

07:34:44.940 Your argument that you forwarded was, well, do you think if I ask people on the street,

07:34:49.620 you know, what they think the whatever podcast is about, and if it has like a whole bunch

07:34:53.520 of OnlyFans girls on it, and it's like the majority. 1.00

07:34:55.880 Do you think they say no?

07:34:56.200 Even if they did, does it mean it's true?

07:35:08.140 Yeah, that's the question.

07:35:09.660 So if people out there on the street say, yes, I think that the majority of the women 1.00

07:35:13.820 who go on the whatever podcast are OnlyFans girls, does it mean it's true?

07:35:17.060 You have the numbers.

07:35:18.000 I don't.

07:35:18.560 So you're telling me.

07:35:19.380 Answer the question.

07:35:20.280 You're telling me it's not true because based on the entirety of the show's history, that

07:35:27.720 has not been the case, and you have the stats, so you could be right.

07:35:31.300 Not just I could be right, I am right.

07:35:33.060 Okay, from the shows that most people have seen recently, I'd say that the brand of this

07:35:39.100 podcast is having women with a background in some kind of sex. 1.00

07:35:42.200 That's not the brand.

07:35:44.020 How could that possibly be the brand if the minority of our guests are sex workers?

07:35:48.680 The majority of our guests are not sex workers.

07:35:51.800 Okay, well, I guess that's a PR issue.

07:35:54.140 Might want to work on that.

07:35:56.180 Period.

07:35:57.740 Moving on.

07:35:58.700 Moving on.

07:35:59.520 Moving on.

07:36:00.140 Moving on.

07:36:01.080 Please for the love of God.

07:36:05.300 But so, okay, you do acknowledge that even if that's the perception, perception doesn't

07:36:11.820 mean truth.

07:36:12.840 Yep.

07:36:13.480 Absolutely.

07:36:14.240 You have the numbers.

07:36:15.120 I don't.

07:36:15.480 And you're saying that they're not.

07:36:16.280 Why would you have forwarded the argument of, well, what do you...

07:36:19.400 I don't...

07:36:19.820 Well, actually, I don't understand.

07:36:21.680 You can't possibly believe this, because now the logical entailment of your argument 0.97

07:36:26.280 is tens of thousands of people are going to think you're a hooker. 1.00

07:36:30.340 No, I think they...

07:36:31.080 Then why are you on a podcast where everybody thinks only hookers go on the podcast? 1.00

07:36:35.560 Mostly.

07:36:35.960 That's the PR I'm telling you, guys.

07:36:38.480 What do you mean?

07:36:39.200 The image of the PR that you have.

07:36:39.920 Why would you go on a podcast that you think has the PR that only hookers go on if you didn't 1.00

07:36:46.560 want people to think you were a fucking hooker? 1.00

07:36:49.060 Because you sporadically do have women that aren't hookers. 1.00

07:36:52.680 You've had Lila Rose on. 0.99

07:36:53.080 Oh, wait.

07:36:53.840 You've had Lila Rose on.

07:36:54.160 That's really weird.

07:36:55.360 You've had Lila... 0.94

07:36:56.000 Excuse me.

07:36:56.320 The PR...

07:36:56.680 Wait, so the reputation...

07:36:57.620 The reputation...

07:36:57.960 The reputation... 0.97

07:36:58.460 The only hookers go on. 1.00

07:36:59.720 I better go on that podcast. 0.98

07:37:02.240 You've had Lila Rose on. 0.99

07:37:03.800 Holy fucking brilliant. 1.00

07:37:05.480 Boy, look at that big brain on tab over here. 1.00

07:37:08.500 All right. 0.64

07:37:09.180 All right.

07:37:09.740 You've had Lila Rose on. 0.94

07:37:11.200 Definitely not a hooker. 1.00

07:37:12.060 You've had my previous employer on. 0.69

07:37:13.240 Now you're making Brian's argument.

07:37:14.840 Charlie Kirk. 0.99

07:37:15.360 Yeah, tell us all about how the PR here is actually not that it's full of hookers. 1.00

07:37:19.120 She's debated for 12 years, but she doesn't know what's going on. 0.75

07:37:20.820 I love y'all.

07:37:21.940 Hey, we're not done with your notes.

07:37:23.600 All right.

07:37:23.900 Here.

07:37:24.400 Can we move on?

07:37:25.240 I'm going to your notes right now.

07:37:26.240 Yeah, we have to move on.

07:37:27.520 I'll do...

07:37:28.080 Yeah, she's not...

07:37:28.680 I'll help fix your PR issue if you pay me for it.

07:37:31.320 Okay.

07:37:31.500 There's a PR issue that we can't have or you wouldn't be here because people would think 0.98

07:37:34.900 you're a hooker. 1.00

07:37:35.560 I like going into the wolf stunts if you can't tell. 1.00

07:37:37.940 Do you want people to think you're a hooker? 1.00

07:37:39.440 No.

07:37:39.820 I think they'll figure out that I'm not.

07:37:41.900 Okay.

07:37:42.320 Let me go to Courtney really quick.

07:37:45.140 You're on the libertarian spectrum.

07:37:46.660 You don't always agree with the host's delivery.

07:37:48.600 All right.

07:37:48.900 I'm not going to argue without you on that.

07:37:50.680 When it comes to certain topics like the hotness scale settings, you said that you're a solid

07:37:54.580 6.5 with makeup on.

07:37:56.040 You're an 8.3 if you're drunk.

07:37:58.260 No.

07:37:59.340 I didn't say that.

07:38:00.440 Did I?

07:38:02.000 You're drunk.

07:38:02.700 You did.

07:38:03.380 Right. 1.00

07:38:04.880 Fuck it. 1.00

07:38:06.180 Okay. 1.00

07:38:07.240 I'm sorry.

07:38:07.900 What's your name again?

07:38:09.040 Ivy.

07:38:09.960 Okay.

07:38:10.460 Ivy.

07:38:11.580 In your Instagram, it writes...

07:38:13.260 It says women in STEM.

07:38:15.680 Yeah.

07:38:17.520 What is...

07:38:18.520 Are you a woman in STEM?

07:38:20.100 Yes.

07:38:20.420 Um, I haven't graduated yet.

07:38:22.940 Uh, I'm majoring in computer science, uh, minoring in cyber security.

07:38:29.160 So I am learning how to hack currently.

07:38:32.660 Um, I don't know everything yet.

07:38:35.380 I mean, not...

07:38:36.360 Yeah.

07:38:36.500 They're teaching us how to hack.

07:38:37.540 I'm doing a flex course.

07:38:39.400 So...

07:38:39.840 Cyber security is necessary usually.

07:38:41.760 I'm hacking, um, switches.

07:38:43.660 Okay. 0.98

07:38:44.180 Uh, you write yourself, or you describe yourself as a sweet but dominant tatted porn star goddess. 0.90

07:38:49.160 Uh, I think this is on your OF. 0.99

07:38:53.060 Gooners are your favorite.

07:38:55.000 Give...

07:38:55.140 Oh, no.

07:38:55.380 That's on my Sex Panther.

07:38:56.640 Oh, Sex Panther. 0.76

07:38:57.640 You say give you every drop of your...

07:39:00.160 You say it.

07:39:01.940 I'm not gonna say that.

07:39:03.540 What does it say?

07:39:04.760 Don't you know what's on your own bio?

07:39:06.020 No, I do, but I...

07:39:07.060 Give me every drop, like...

07:39:07.680 I rewrite my bios, like, frequently.

07:39:10.700 Don't make me say it.

07:39:12.140 I don't have an agency.

07:39:13.020 I really don't want to say it.

07:39:13.740 Every drop of your...

07:39:14.980 What?

07:39:15.360 Come?

07:39:15.740 Like, something like that?

07:39:17.120 There's more.

07:39:18.140 There's a...

07:39:19.140 Beta... 1.00

07:39:21.140 Beta bitches? 1.00

07:39:22.900 How do you... 1.00

07:39:23.500 Probably this girl has a... 1.00

07:39:24.340 Beta...

07:39:24.760 Beta cooners? 1.00

07:39:26.060 Beta sweat? 0.51

07:39:26.760 You say... 1.00

07:39:27.000 You write, give me every drop of your beta cum. 1.00

07:39:30.660 Yeah, beta cum. 1.00

07:39:33.380 Okay. 0.99

07:39:34.500 Um, you do girlfriend experience scam. 1.00

07:39:38.300 Romance scam.

07:39:39.380 I like it.

07:39:39.920 You do homewrecking?

07:39:41.520 Um, I do the roleplaying.

07:39:43.060 Yeah.

07:39:43.780 So, okay.

07:39:44.860 What's CEI?

07:39:46.040 Um, eating instructions.

07:39:47.080 So, like, they'll eat it out of, like, a...

07:39:51.440 They'll eat it out, like, out of their...

07:39:54.560 They'll squirt it in their mouth or, like...

07:39:56.080 Who?

07:39:56.540 I eat it out of, like, my subs.

07:39:58.520 My clients.

07:39:58.840 The men?

07:39:59.560 Uh, yeah.

07:40:00.240 Usually they, like, ask for it and they'll, like...

07:40:03.080 Excuse me? 1.00

07:40:04.920 That's fucking disgusting! 0.99

07:40:07.200 Eat it out of a peanut butter jar or something? 1.00

07:40:09.120 I don't know.

07:40:09.520 You, like, tell them where to do it and then they eat it off that object or whatever.

07:40:14.920 Yeah, into a cup or on a plate.

07:40:16.300 A little shot glass.

07:40:16.900 Lick it off.

07:40:17.580 And then you tell them, uh...

07:40:19.240 Yeah.

07:40:19.600 Yeah.

07:40:20.060 They actually taught me how to do it. 0.99

07:40:21.860 I give, uh, I give, uh, sex... 1.00

07:40:24.920 The female sex workers some flack. 1.00

07:40:27.000 But I think I gotta... 0.97

07:40:28.240 Sometimes I think it's the men.

07:40:30.300 You know? 1.00

07:40:31.000 The fucking degenerates. 1.00

07:40:33.380 That... 1.00

07:40:33.900 I gotta criticize them, too, man.

07:40:36.340 They're usually gonna be shameful after.

07:40:37.520 The list is based off of them.

07:40:39.160 We're just facilitating their, the experience that they want to experience.

07:40:43.100 I do say no to some kids.

07:40:44.380 I guess.

07:40:45.080 You can tell they're a little bit ashamed after they ask for stuff like that sometimes.

07:40:49.820 You gotta give them cool-off sessions.

07:40:52.980 All right.

07:40:53.380 You said that, uh, you're...

07:40:55.700 You talked earlier about you were a sugar mama to your last boyfriend for three years.

07:41:00.720 You guys were monogamous.

07:41:02.040 Then it went to an open relationship.

07:41:03.560 So were you sleeping with other guys?

07:41:05.440 I was, yes.

07:41:06.260 Okay, but he was sleeping with other girls, too?

07:41:08.400 Yes. 0.95

07:41:08.780 Okay, he ended up being a huge cheater.

07:41:10.960 Well, I mean...

07:41:12.020 It's about transparency.

07:41:13.760 And he was hiding stuff from me and sleeping with people that, like, raw.

07:41:17.620 And then he was sleeping.

07:41:19.180 He slept with about, like, ten girls behind my back before I found out.

07:41:22.940 So, okay, your open relationship, the, the agreement was, we disclose.

07:41:28.280 Yeah, it was a conversation.

07:41:30.360 And then...

07:41:30.780 Well, it wouldn't be cheating.

07:41:32.000 It...

07:41:32.800 It...

07:41:33.000 Well, it wouldn't be cheating, but it would be...

07:41:34.660 Betrayal.

07:41:35.720 Yeah.

07:41:36.400 A lack of disclosure.

07:41:38.520 Because it's an open relationship.

07:41:39.580 He could have got me sick.

07:41:41.180 It's cheating.

07:41:42.180 Well, it's not cheating, but it's wrong.

07:41:44.000 I'll agree with you that it's wrong.

07:41:44.560 He wouldn't get tested, either.

07:41:46.060 I love...

07:41:46.540 I have love for him, so...

07:41:48.100 Well, okay.

07:41:48.580 I'm not going to argue with you too much, but I wouldn't consider it cheating, but what

07:41:52.620 he did is wrong.

07:41:53.600 I think...

07:41:53.960 It's unethical.

07:41:54.640 I'd be saying that.

07:41:55.140 Yeah.

07:41:55.860 You went from dating men living in trap houses to riding on private jets.

07:42:00.260 Yes.

07:42:00.800 Too much to type.

07:42:02.180 Yeah.

07:42:04.060 You were introduced...

07:42:05.760 Wait, you've dated millionaires twice your age, who you were introduced to by your sugar

07:42:09.320 baby boyfriend, and you ended up dating him for two years. 0.93

07:42:13.100 You were very spoiled, but he was also very crazy. 0.96

07:42:15.560 He was very crazy.

07:42:17.300 He was fun.

07:42:18.080 All right.

07:42:20.040 In a fun way.

07:42:21.700 You know, he wasn't too crazy, but he was definitely not.

07:42:25.440 I had to kind of babysit him a little bit.

07:42:31.520 Okay.

07:42:32.920 Courtney, you said you don't agree with the host delivery when it comes to certain topics

07:42:36.060 like the hotness scale rating.

07:42:37.860 I did want to go back to that briefly here for the 9.9, the 10, the 8, the 8, the 9.

07:42:42.160 Yes, please.

07:42:42.900 Rate me.

07:42:43.280 Can you guys tell me...

07:42:45.040 Well...

07:42:46.120 Oh, yeah.

07:42:46.440 I was supposed to rate you guys.

07:42:47.320 I guess I'll do that super quick.

07:42:50.120 For you, 9.9...

07:42:51.840 I'm just going to focus on the 9.99, the 10, and then the 9 over there.

07:42:56.320 So...

07:42:56.720 Oh, can we just get the camera angles on?

07:42:59.380 Okay.

07:42:59.680 So, can you tell me a woman who you think is a 9.99? 1.00

07:43:08.600 Like, young Megan Fox, young, like a woman? 0.99

07:43:11.840 Robbie, Margot Robbie.

07:43:13.720 Margot Robbie is a 9.

07:43:14.760 Demon Slayer donated $69.

07:43:17.400 At diversity lovers...

07:43:19.180 Sorry, it's below the threshold.

07:43:20.680 I don't know why it did the TTS.

07:43:21.900 Yes.

07:43:22.620 Please tell me a woman who you think is a 10. 1.00

07:43:28.540 Megan Fox is actually a really good example.

07:43:31.200 Megan Fox.

07:43:31.860 Yeah.

07:43:32.020 Okay, and then you're...

07:43:33.380 Wait, hold on.

07:43:36.540 You're a 9.

07:43:37.380 Can you tell me a woman who you think is a 9? 1.00

07:43:39.340 Angelina Jolie.

07:43:40.620 And you're a 9?

07:43:42.140 Yes.

07:43:44.260 Just like Angelina Jolie?

07:43:45.540 I have symmetrical eyes.

07:43:46.880 I have full lips.

07:43:48.180 I have full face.

07:43:49.360 Can you look in that camera right there?

07:43:51.380 That one?

07:43:51.900 That camera looks straight in that camera?

07:43:53.480 Hello.

07:43:54.240 Okay.

07:43:54.860 Now, those of you watching, drag a window and put Angelina Jolie's face like right next

07:44:02.860 to her face.

07:44:03.840 Now, can you, while looking into that camera, can you do me a favor?

07:44:06.700 Mm-hmm.

07:44:07.100 Can you turn your face that way?

07:44:11.440 More, more, more, more, and then turn your face the other way?

07:44:15.540 Angelina Jolie-Caliber, everybody. 1.00

07:44:21.020 Holy fuck. 1.00

07:44:22.500 Okay. 1.00

07:44:23.040 Thank you. 0.95

07:44:24.720 Yeah, women are delusional. 1.00

07:44:26.160 Rate me a 3 already so I can go. 0.86

07:44:28.300 Hold on.

07:44:29.020 Hold your horses.

07:44:30.680 Hold your horses.

07:44:31.560 Are you going to rate us, though?

07:44:33.100 I will give you guys ratings.

07:44:35.400 I'll wait until homegirl's back. 1.00

07:44:43.760 Yeah?

07:44:44.420 I may say something.

07:44:45.540 Part of the reason, too, I didn't want to rate on a scale is, I don't know, when you

07:44:51.260 were asking them, who do you think is a 10, the first person that came to mind for me

07:44:54.900 who is a 10 is my sister.

07:44:56.420 I've always loved her so much and looked up to her.

07:44:59.780 And it's sad to see, like, a beautiful girl like this go and call herself a 4.5 when, if

07:45:05.340 any guy sees her on the street and wouldn't drop his draw to the floor, he needs to get

07:45:09.520 smacked or something because she's beautiful.

07:45:11.060 Well, she's pandering. 1.00

07:45:12.040 I'm not pandering.

07:45:12.880 She's pandering. 1.00

07:45:13.520 I'm not pandering.

07:45:14.540 Anya's pandering. 0.97

07:45:15.900 Well, not pandering.

07:45:17.580 Regardless, like, when you're in love with someone, like, I've been in love with somebody

07:45:21.860 who, when I first met him, I wasn't as attracted to him.

07:45:25.440 But when we were in a relationship, he was a perfect 10 to me.

07:45:28.560 I loved everything about him.

07:45:30.180 But that's not even a dispute.

07:45:32.300 Yeah, it's, it's, it's not a dispute, so to say, but I think that love is, is more

07:45:39.340 important than what you initially see.

07:45:39.960 I believe that over time, of course, you can become more or less attracted to a person.

07:45:44.900 Of course, that's the case.

07:45:46.260 Yeah.

07:45:46.560 Nobody would dispute that that's the case.

07:45:49.620 But we're, all the time that we're probably ever going to spend for the rest of our lives

07:45:54.760 together is right this second.

07:45:56.700 And so what you do is you're like, okay, that's 99.99999% of people you'll ever engage

07:46:03.760 with in the rest of your existence.

07:46:05.440 So because of that, we can make value judgments and assessments based on appearance and what

07:46:11.180 we see and how we perceive the beauty standards that other people see each other as too. 0.98

07:46:16.620 Nobody here is stupid.

07:46:18.620 Know this for sure, because I've now talked with all of you. 0.99

07:46:21.220 So I know that you know what I'm saying is true.

07:46:24.560 That it is, in fact, the case that all of you can take a look at a chick and the second 1.00

07:46:29.980 she's not in the room, go, oh, that bitch is nasty. 1.00

07:46:32.780 That bitch is nasty. 1.00

07:46:35.060 Oh, that girl's hair is bad. 1.00

07:46:37.480 Oh, her eyebrows.

07:46:38.860 She should be doing something else with those. 0.88

07:46:41.360 Did you see her makeup? 1.00

07:46:43.260 Don't fucking bullshit. 1.00

07:46:44.940 They do it all the time. 1.00

07:46:46.220 Women do it all the time. 1.00

07:46:47.020 I'll tell you what.

07:46:48.060 Let's see how many of you are honest.

07:46:50.180 How many of you have ever criticized the appearance of a woman when she left the room?

07:46:58.300 But I will also say...

07:46:59.920 Not you, though.

07:47:00.260 You've never done that.

07:47:01.440 A woman has never left the room and you've criticized her.

07:47:05.300 Not you.

07:47:06.760 No, I've thought that maybe they could have dressed better or...

07:47:10.360 So then...

07:47:10.540 I will add that if we're friends, I'll tell her to her face.

07:47:15.160 I'll be like, hey...

07:47:16.100 That's really weird.

07:47:16.740 How can you judge and assess the beauty of your friends and other women and stuff? 0.94

07:47:21.820 It's not about assessing their beauty, but maybe her hair is messed up or she's got broccoli 0.99

07:47:26.160 in her teeth or something like that. 0.85

07:47:28.500 We don't know what's your overall assumption that women are just bitchy and catty with each 1.00

07:47:33.660 other.

07:47:33.940 I'm going to tell you that... 0.99

07:47:34.900 Oh, women are horrible with each other. 1.00

07:47:36.180 Well, they are, but I'm going to tell you that here's what my actual assumption is.

07:47:39.900 My actual assumption is that human beings criticize each other consistently and constantly.

07:47:44.380 For men, there's a good reason for that.

07:47:46.320 And for women, there's a good reason why both sexes do this. 1.00

07:47:50.720 One reason that women like to play the compare and contrast game is because it's one of the 1.00

07:47:56.380 ways that they can enhance mating strategies.

07:47:58.420 For men, one of the reasons that we do it is because it enhances cooperation and male

07:48:05.260 camaraderie. 1.00

07:48:06.300 Men are fucking awful to each other. 1.00

07:48:08.020 We call each other the F-slur or horrible to each other. 1.00

07:48:10.960 We laugh at each other when we fall down.

07:48:13.260 You know, if I have a friend who's really hurt, the first thing I do is laugh and then we render

07:48:17.720 aid.

07:48:19.120 I mean, all of you know that what I'm saying is accurate, okay?

07:48:24.320 If you know, if you have hung around men for any length of time, all they do is give each 0.99

07:48:29.940 other shit all day. 1.00

07:48:30.800 Am I lying? 1.00

07:48:31.860 Yes.

07:48:32.060 I stepped out so I didn't know the original premise of this conversation.

07:48:35.220 Sorry.

07:48:35.680 I'm not going to let you hijack this one.

07:48:38.660 So, gee, where was I on this thing?

07:48:42.860 I do think it is interesting.

07:48:44.280 Actually, you know what?

07:48:45.160 Here, let's do this.

07:48:47.160 Rate me on a scale of zero to ten.

07:48:50.520 Overall?

07:48:51.160 Just face looks.

07:48:52.240 Just face or?

07:48:54.540 Just face, yeah.

07:48:56.820 Okay.

07:48:58.120 With the beard, a four.

07:49:06.920 So, I'm assuming, I'm curious.

07:49:08.780 I'm assuming without the beard, it's lower, I would imagine.

07:49:11.540 What do you rate me?

07:49:13.120 Seven.

07:49:14.400 Okay, you're being too generous.

07:49:16.200 I think you have nice blue eyes and I tend to be more attracted to men that have darker

07:49:20.420 hair and I like facial hair, so.

07:49:22.320 Man, Angelina Jolie thinks you're a seven. 1.00

07:49:24.860 But she's still settling for me.

07:49:27.660 I'm two points below her.

07:49:29.340 Well, she's Angelina Jolie. 0.93

07:49:31.780 She's a nine.

07:49:32.780 Of course she's going to settle for you. 0.95

07:49:34.620 I'm just a seven in her eyes. 0.99

07:49:36.240 You're out of your mind, bro.

07:49:37.640 So, you know, it's, yeah, she would be settling for me, though.

07:49:42.060 Here, really quick.

07:49:44.180 Don't rate me.

07:49:45.040 I don't want to get my feelings hurt today.

07:49:46.420 No, no, no.

07:49:46.580 You guys can wait until you leave.

07:49:49.700 Really quick, though, Nathan, just, I want to pull up the Discord.

07:49:53.980 Can you go into the Looks tab on the Discord?

07:49:59.020 Do you know how to do that?

07:50:01.440 What's that?

07:50:04.080 The Looks tab here.

07:50:08.320 Yeah, and then click on the, scroll up a little bit.

07:50:11.040 Scroll up, scroll up.

07:50:11.960 Click on, wait, wait.

07:50:12.860 Scroll down, scroll down.

07:50:13.600 The first girl there, next to, yep, click that. 1.00

07:50:16.940 And then you're going to use the mouse arrows.

07:50:19.100 Oh, no, no, no.

07:50:20.060 Mouse arrow, no, sorry.

07:50:21.980 Hover with the cursor over the arrow, yeah.

07:50:24.900 Next, that's Evangeline, I forgot her last name.

07:50:28.180 This is Adriana Lima.

07:50:30.520 Adriana Lima, next.

07:50:32.600 Jessica Biel.

07:50:34.340 Jessica Biel.

07:50:36.760 Taylor Hill, I think is her name, next.

07:50:39.400 Jessica Alba.

07:50:40.920 And then, of course, Gorlock.

07:50:41.980 So all very attractive women, those are eights and nines. 0.99

07:50:45.700 You know, I want to say some of those women, okay. 0.96

07:50:50.500 Let's use Adriana Lima, though, that second girl that we saw. 1.00

07:50:55.100 What do you rate her? 0.80

07:50:56.420 I said perfection wasn't achievable.

07:51:06.140 She's a 10.

07:51:07.620 What do you rate her? 0.80

07:51:10.600 All of them are beautiful.

07:51:12.820 The second girl, the one with the blue eyes.

07:51:15.540 What do you rate Adriana Lima? 1.00

07:51:17.360 10.

07:51:17.420 10.

07:51:17.960 Drop dead gorgeous.

07:51:19.180 Okay.

07:51:19.660 But you're just one point below Adriana.

07:51:22.520 Yeah.

07:51:22.800 Wait, hey, can we get on the right angle, please?

07:51:26.140 Did we miss?

07:51:27.340 I would say my flaws are like the little indent in my nose.

07:51:30.960 And maybe my nose is a little bit big.

07:51:31.940 Here, I think we missed the angle.

07:51:33.720 So I think we're going to have to repeat it.

07:51:35.400 So you're one point below Adriana Lima. 1.00

07:51:41.240 Yes, I believe so.

07:51:43.940 I think I only have a couple of flaws on my face, personally.

07:51:46.580 All right, this is what men are dealing with in the dating landscape.

07:51:51.460 This is why it's so difficult to date, because basically you have women who have an overinflated 1.00

07:51:55.940 sense of their attractiveness, and they basically look at men who are actually on their level,

07:52:01.340 and they completely zero them out.

07:52:03.500 Women will think that they're settling for a guy, but it's actually just that they're delusional. 1.00

07:52:08.200 I would like to add that I've dated men that I deem less attractive than I am.

07:52:14.300 That you deem, but you deem...

07:52:17.080 Okay, can I ask you a question?

07:52:19.020 Maybe we should ask...

07:52:20.140 Angelina Jolie was married to Brad Pitt.

07:52:23.320 Yeah, and she was also married to Billy Bob Thornton, or dated Billy Bob Thornton.

07:52:27.340 He's an attractive guy.

07:52:27.920 Yeah, my question, though...

07:52:29.160 He's somewhat attractive, but they are a huge difference in attractiveness.

07:52:32.660 Okay, but hang on, hang on.

07:52:33.400 Yes, they are, but...

07:52:34.080 Angelina Jolie dated down with Billy Bob Thornton.

07:52:36.900 Fair enough.

07:52:38.900 Also was with Brad Pitt.

07:52:40.680 Yeah.

07:52:41.460 And so, hang on.

07:52:43.900 So, you're not settling for Brad Pitt.

07:52:46.700 You're not settling.

07:52:47.960 Like that, if you got Brad...

07:52:49.580 No, it's an equal relationship.

07:52:50.940 With you.

07:52:52.320 Oh, for me.

07:52:53.460 Yeah.

07:52:53.600 For me and Brad Pitt?

07:52:54.580 No, I feel like he would be settling for me a little bit.

07:52:56.720 Well, what?

07:52:57.960 Wait, wait, wait.

07:52:58.500 Just a little bit?

07:52:59.560 So, he was settling for Angelina Jolie?

07:53:02.720 Let me ask this.

07:53:03.800 Tell me a guy who you think is a 9.99, a guy who you think is a 10, and a guy who you

07:53:08.760 think is a 9.

07:53:10.920 Ooh.

07:53:14.420 Okay, I'll say... 1.00

07:53:16.560 Fuck, he's short, though. 1.00

07:53:19.480 God, you can't use him. 1.00

07:53:21.400 I don't know.

07:53:22.440 But he's also Jewish, I think.

07:53:24.040 So, what kind of gives him?

07:53:24.840 I'm always talking dating Shark Kings.

07:53:27.920 I gotta stop.

07:53:28.820 Okay.

07:53:29.320 Irrelevant.

07:53:29.680 Sorry, we'll say Robert Pattinson.

07:53:36.640 The guy from Twilight.

07:53:38.580 When he washes his hair.

07:53:40.380 All right.

07:53:41.140 What about you?

07:53:42.480 John Summit.

07:53:44.640 Oh, my God. 1.00

07:53:46.140 Who the fuck is that guy? 1.00

07:53:47.280 Can you Google John Summit? 0.99

07:53:48.600 Do a Google image search of John Summit, please.

07:53:51.100 He has a good personality.

07:53:52.380 Oh, and disco lines.

07:53:54.180 What about you?

07:53:55.600 Can you repeat the question?

07:53:56.740 Who's a guy who you think is a 9? 0.99

07:54:00.060 Oh, a celebrity?

07:54:01.020 Yeah, that we could Google.

07:54:02.760 George Clooney.

07:54:05.140 No, no, no.

07:54:05.800 A guy who you think is a 9.

07:54:08.380 Yeah, I think George Clooney is a 9.

07:54:08.780 Yeah, she says George Clooney.

07:54:10.180 Oh, George Clooney.

07:54:10.980 Okay.

07:54:11.320 H-Cap.

07:54:13.780 Oh, no.

07:54:14.980 H-Cap.

07:54:15.600 No.

07:54:16.520 Do you have it?

07:54:17.120 Go ahead.

07:54:17.340 Pull it up.

07:54:19.040 Can you go to the...

07:54:20.480 He kind of looks like you.

07:54:21.400 Okay, that's fine.

07:54:22.500 He does kind of look like you.

07:54:23.600 All right, there you go.

07:54:25.700 You're a 10.

07:54:26.540 I'm a 10.

07:54:27.560 All right.

07:54:28.620 Well, you're going to change that after I give the rating.

07:54:31.740 You're a 3.

07:54:32.880 I'm just kidding.

07:54:36.440 Sorry.

07:54:38.160 George Clooney.

07:54:39.240 Mm-hmm.

07:54:41.560 Your looks equivalent...

07:54:44.180 Can we say young George Clooney?

07:54:45.740 Because he's a bit older.

07:54:46.580 Can we say young...

07:54:47.540 Sure.

07:54:47.680 We don't want the age gap. 0.99

07:54:48.780 He's very handsome.

07:54:49.980 Before the age gap occurs.

07:54:51.460 And I don't even think that the age gap between George Clooney and I is that big.

07:54:55.660 It's pretty big.

07:54:57.260 Your looks...

07:54:58.880 How old is he?

07:54:58.920 Your league...

07:54:59.580 I think he's in his 60s.

07:55:01.560 Your looks league is famous actor, heartthrob, sexiest man alive, George Clooney.

07:55:10.700 Well, he was, I think, a magazine many years ago voted him sexiest man alive. 1.00

07:55:15.460 People magazine, fucking 98 or some bullshit. 0.99

07:55:18.500 But that's your looks equivalent. 1.00

07:55:21.520 Yeah.

07:55:22.940 I, like I said, I think my only flaws are my, the bags under my eyes and my...

07:55:27.460 Hey, yo, homegirl. 0.98

07:55:28.580 That's it.

07:55:29.060 Homegirl.

07:55:29.500 Whatever you're right.

07:55:29.900 Is her looks equivalent...

07:55:30.920 You tell me.

07:55:31.500 Is her looks equivalent George Clooney?

07:55:33.020 I'm going to...

07:55:33.400 Yes or no.

07:55:33.920 I just need a yes or no.

07:55:34.660 I won't be offended.

07:55:35.360 No, but...

07:55:35.860 Okay.

07:55:37.000 Is her looks equivalent George Clooney?

07:55:40.040 You tell me.

07:55:40.860 Wait, wait.

07:55:41.220 You tell me.

07:55:43.220 Is her looks equivalent George Clooney?

07:55:45.380 Be honest.

07:55:46.460 Come on.

07:55:46.820 I won't be offended. 1.00

07:55:48.220 Fucking stick in the knife. 1.00

07:55:50.600 Fucking turn that shit. 1.00

07:55:51.720 Go ahead. 1.00

07:55:52.280 I know you want to.

07:55:53.100 My issue is you said that this is why...

07:55:54.660 No, no, no, no.

07:55:55.280 No hijack.

07:55:56.560 This is why, like, all women are delusional in, you know, in giving themselves a rating. 1.00

07:56:01.240 And this is why men have it hard.

07:56:02.840 And that's not the case.

07:56:03.980 This is just her opinion.

07:56:05.760 If we rewind back three minutes, that's what you said.

07:56:08.740 See, this is why, you know, men are having problems dating because...

07:56:11.820 I'm speaking of generalities.

07:56:13.760 That's the problem.

07:56:14.820 No, generalities are completely acceptable when you're talking about general principles.

07:56:22.060 I don't think most women are delusional about their personal appearance. 1.00

07:56:26.640 Yes, I would argue most women are delusional. 1.00

07:56:28.780 I disagree with that. 0.77

07:56:29.640 But, okay, we'll agree to disagree.

07:56:31.000 I disagree about your disagreement about disagreeing.

07:56:34.260 I love that.

07:56:35.160 Do you disagree?

07:56:36.160 I disagree.

07:56:36.740 I disagree.

07:56:37.240 I disagree.

07:56:37.740 Oh, well, then we'll just disagree.

07:56:39.660 One point about that delusion, though, that isn't bad for men. 0.56

07:56:42.460 But hold on, hold on.

07:56:43.240 Just to be clear, I'm not saying all women.

07:56:45.700 Of course, there are women who are reasonable, who are humble, who are self-aware, who have 0.98

07:56:51.140 a reasonable degree of being able to self-assess their physical attractiveness.

07:56:55.580 In fact, earlier I said, Anya, I think she underrates herself.

07:56:58.980 I agree with that.

07:56:59.700 She underrates herself.

07:57:00.780 So it's not like I'm like, all women are just totally delusional. 1.00

07:57:03.400 If you read my three minutes, you said that.

07:57:04.480 But you would agree that if 30%, 40%, 50%, 60% of women, and look, I don't know the exact

07:57:11.040 number, are over-inflating their own self-assessment of how attractive they are, yeah, that's going

07:57:16.620 to have massive impacts when it comes to dating.

07:57:19.620 In the same way that if me over here, now here's where this is going to get interesting.

07:57:23.940 If I were to say, I'm just as good looking as prime Brad Pitt, as prime Johnny Depp, as

07:57:33.740 prime Leonardo DiCaprio, all of you guys would be, internally, because I feel like you won't 0.99

07:57:41.600 confront me on it, internally, you'd be like, look at this fucking chubby dude. 0.99

07:57:46.640 Not you. 1.00

07:57:46.940 Look at this fucking chubby dude. 1.00

07:57:48.240 Not you. 1.00

07:57:49.260 We're not referencing you.

07:57:51.180 We know, we know, we know, you would never, you would never.

07:57:55.960 That's why I excluded myself.

07:57:57.800 I know.

07:57:58.120 I also, I want to say that just because I rate myself highly doesn't mean that I write

07:58:02.660 off men that I'm not, aren't necessarily conventionally attractive, right?

07:58:06.760 I've dated bald men.

07:58:08.060 I've dated men shorter than me, the same height as me, taller than me.

07:58:11.100 I mean, bald men can be the ones.

07:58:12.500 For me, attraction is about.

07:58:13.760 If you said he's like Leonardo DiCaprio, is he delusional?

07:58:17.120 Um, maybe, maybe, a little bit.

07:58:20.260 A little bit.

07:58:21.180 He has symmetrical eyes, right?

07:58:23.720 Like, you do have really nice eyes.

07:58:26.760 I'm like, I'm chubby, I'm chubby, and I.

07:58:32.340 I like chubby guys.

07:58:33.340 It's a dad bod, it's nice.

07:58:34.160 Yeah.

07:58:34.520 I really can't grab the belly when you're on top.

07:58:35.980 You're better for cuddling.

07:58:37.340 I'm like below, I'm below, I give myself a 4.5.

07:58:41.060 You're a big teddy bear.

07:58:41.940 I'm below average looking in no world, and I, am I anywhere near Brad Pitt?

07:58:47.980 And I acknowledge that, but I don't, it's not like, I'm, oh, I'm so down on myself because,

07:58:52.420 no, it's like, it is what it is.

07:58:53.880 It is how I am.

07:58:54.740 Um, and I have other appealing characteristics.

07:58:59.540 Uh, however, yeah, looks wise below, like below average, below average.

07:59:06.560 Look, if I lost some weight, I'd be a solid 5.

07:59:09.360 Solid 5.

07:59:09.960 Maybe I could even get back to 5.5, maybe even a 6 if I got really trim, you know, and 0.93

07:59:14.620 I, maybe my skin right now is all fucked up. 0.94

07:59:17.140 I don't know if I've been eating too much junk food or. 0.99

07:59:19.640 You're being too hard on yourself.

07:59:20.840 I know.

07:59:21.120 Yeah.

07:59:21.520 I think you're being too hard on yourself too.

07:59:23.100 I'm not going to cook for you.

07:59:24.200 You got to eat it raw.

07:59:25.340 It's raw.

07:59:25.700 Oh, sorry.

07:59:26.220 Are you going to prepare?

07:59:27.920 Yeah.

07:59:28.160 I'll chop it up.

07:59:29.280 All right.

07:59:29.620 The rare food.

07:59:30.500 All right.

07:59:30.800 That's actually it.

07:59:31.280 And she'll cook cucumbers on my eyes and give me a massage. 1.00

07:59:33.820 I feel like she just eats raw foods or she doesn't have to cook it for her man. 1.00

07:59:37.940 No.

07:59:38.640 No, no, no, no.

07:59:39.420 I was eating it all raw and he would eat it all cooked.

07:59:41.900 So I'd spend an evening cooking him a meal, cooking bread too.

07:59:45.420 It was a great joke.

07:59:46.460 You ruined it.

07:59:47.440 It was fantastic.

07:59:48.800 You just, you just totally ruined it.

07:59:50.720 I love to cook.

07:59:51.520 Ruined the whole joke.

07:59:53.160 It was a good joke.

07:59:55.120 But so, I mean, just, I don't know.

07:59:57.600 I need you guys to affirm my identity as somebody as attractive as Brad Pitt.

08:00:02.700 You would be if you ate raw meat.

08:00:04.060 Do you want everybody's honest opinion about personality though?

08:00:06.800 Do you want us all to rate you?

08:00:07.900 We can all rate you.

08:00:08.600 Do you want everybody's, yeah, I understand I'm an abrasive person.

08:00:13.760 Now, to be fair, to be fair, doing this show is stressful.

08:00:19.960 Yes.

08:00:20.420 And I will tell you this.

08:00:21.640 I will tell you this. 0.88

08:00:22.500 If I have a girlfriend, you might think, Brian, you're incredibly disagreeable.

08:00:28.280 You're incredibly combative.

08:00:29.560 You're incredibly argumentative.

08:00:31.160 Yes.

08:00:32.120 When I'm at peace at home with my girl, it is smooth sailing.

08:00:37.780 Smooth sailing.

08:00:38.640 I'm not, I'm not, I'm actually in interpersonal relationships, private interpersonal relationships.

08:00:44.960 I like to think I'm actually quite.

08:00:46.360 Explain that genuinely.

08:00:47.120 Like, what does that mean that you're not into?

08:00:47.700 Well, I like to think I'm quite agreeable.

08:00:49.880 But you're going to say, okay, well, Brian, you were sassy tonight.

08:00:54.920 You got bent out of shape.

08:00:56.660 You partially crashed out, which is probably true.

08:00:59.360 Hey, look, look, we all have our moments, right?

08:01:03.100 However, this wouldn't be representative of how I am privately or individually.

08:01:08.560 I wouldn't know, but this has been in, like, what, a seven-hour podcast, and I haven't had

08:01:12.800 a crash out like that.

08:01:14.100 So I think it kind of can be representative.

08:01:16.860 Well, you're the, you're the type of abuser that, like, pushes buttons, and, like, internally

08:01:25.280 you're like, oh, yeah, I'm getting a rise out of this guy.

08:01:28.300 You're a button pusher.

08:01:29.820 You're a habitual, who says it, who, is it?

08:01:33.900 Why do you think it crash out?

08:01:35.720 Wait, who's that comedian?

08:01:37.280 Who's that comedian?

08:01:38.120 Now you are crashing out, Brian.

08:01:39.340 Wait, wait, wait.

08:01:40.560 Who's that comedian who's, like, females be, like, habitual, oh, no, it's Dave Chappelle. 1.00

08:01:47.260 Wait, is it Dave Chappelle?

08:01:47.960 Habitual line stepper?

08:01:49.760 Habitual line crosser? 0.95

08:01:51.720 Habitual button pusher?

08:01:53.000 Are you thinking of Cat Williams?

08:01:54.500 Yes.

08:01:55.300 No, no, no.

08:01:56.000 I think it's somebody else.

08:01:57.360 Anyways, whatever.

08:01:58.300 But, look, yeah, you're a button pusher, lady. 1.00

08:02:01.160 You're a button pusher.

08:02:02.340 But, look, I'm telling you.

08:02:03.580 I think that you've, I think that, I think you've had multiple crash outs.

08:02:08.100 I think that just because you, if you, if you just say, oh, well, I have a calm demeanor 0.93

08:02:12.780 while I'm completely prattling about fucking nonsense to the point where nobody else get 0.94

08:02:17.960 a word in edgewise while they're talking, I think that that's crash out. 0.98

08:02:21.660 I think people can rewind and check for themselves.

08:02:23.700 They will.

08:02:23.980 People, I promise there will be plenty of clips of this.

08:02:27.500 I'm sure you guys might.

08:02:28.320 I can 100% guarantee you there will be plenty of clips.

08:02:32.140 Plus, you can AI edit my pictures.

08:02:34.140 That's one of the things we signed on the, on the disclosure for.

08:02:37.200 All right.

08:02:37.700 I did notice that, too.

08:02:38.800 I found it to be a little strange.

08:02:40.600 Oh, yeah.

08:02:40.860 Your TikTok thumbnails have been interesting lately.

08:02:43.520 Why is that?

08:02:45.320 I'm actually curious.

08:02:46.160 So, I'm willing.

08:02:47.260 Yeah.

08:02:47.400 What is the purpose of that?

08:02:48.660 Yeah.

08:02:48.860 To enlarge the girl's breasts, even though they're covered up on the show, for the most 1.00

08:02:53.000 part, you know.

08:02:54.260 Make mine bigger.

08:02:57.200 Make mine bigger.

08:02:58.020 Yeah.

08:02:58.340 I mean, ultimately, we, so we, we, uh, my, my editor ran a one week experiment.

08:03:05.080 You'll notice that it stopped.

08:03:06.440 My editor ran a one week experiment.

08:03:09.260 Uh, it was super cringe, but I was like, and, uh, yeah, so we, we, not just the, like

08:03:15.260 the, the, the, we, we AI the face.

08:03:17.480 We gave people like funny expressions and you see this implemented on YouTube thumbnails.

08:03:23.640 So yes, it's a bit of sensationalization.

08:03:26.680 Uh, it was, uh, it was like a YouTube experiment.

08:03:29.860 Uh, no, actually we, did we do it on some YouTube clips?

08:03:34.200 Maybe.

08:03:34.640 Maybe, but, uh, it was an experiment to see like what, what you could do to like boost

08:03:41.240 the engagement, the CTR basically.

08:03:44.380 But I want to take the bait though, real quick, Brian.

08:03:46.880 So I'm willing to take the bait.

08:03:48.480 I rate my personality at a one.

08:03:50.460 So that what do you rate yours?

08:03:52.340 I think that when I'm not debating people that try to divide the sexes, I am an, I'm

08:03:58.780 a 10 out of 10.

08:03:59.680 In fact, in fact, in fact, I actually have proof of this quantifiable proof.

08:04:04.640 Did you know that back in 2013, 2013, I competed in a beauty pageant and I was actually voted

08:04:12.680 on by the girls there as Ms. 0.99

08:04:14.240 It's congeniality.

08:04:15.620 So imagine out of a competition with girls that are competing with each other, that they 0.95

08:04:20.940 vote somebody as the nicest person there.

08:04:22.960 So I have actual evidence of that being the case.

08:04:26.260 It was called the Christina Giannolo award, um, spirit of Ms. Florida.

08:04:30.840 Oh my God.

08:04:31.560 Who the hell came? 0.58

08:04:33.840 Got it.

08:04:34.240 Most people.

08:04:35.480 Personality.

08:04:37.320 So 10 out of 10.

08:04:39.220 Personality 10 out of 10.

08:04:40.500 10 out of 10.

08:04:41.000 Girls, girl.

08:04:42.380 Yep.

08:04:43.240 Look, this show, this show.

08:04:44.880 I knew for some reason, something in me told me that you were going to say a 10 out of

08:04:50.840 10.

08:04:51.080 I don't know how I knew, but something told me you were definitely going to make a 10 out

08:04:57.180 of 10 assessment.

08:04:57.660 Wait, let's ask the female panelists here. 1.00

08:04:59.780 Do you guys, what do you, Anya gets to go first. 0.99

08:05:02.900 No.

08:05:03.680 Yeah.

08:05:04.760 Rate her, her, I guess her personality as presented on the show.

08:05:09.040 Rate her personality.

08:05:10.100 As presented on the show?

08:05:11.800 Yes.

08:05:12.120 Or, okay.

08:05:13.740 Don't take offense to this because I only know you from the show.

08:05:16.260 That's okay.

08:05:16.880 As long as you think I'm funny.

08:05:18.380 Just your personality, not your looks because your looks are completely different.

08:05:21.340 Tell us a joke, funny lady. 1.00

08:05:22.580 I'd say like four and a half.

08:05:24.160 Okay. 1.00

08:05:24.560 Fucking W, W, Anya, W, Anya in the chat. 0.99

08:05:27.160 Uh, what do you guys, ah, no, they're not going to be, I don't think anybody's going to 0.99

08:05:29.880 be on this, but besides on that.

08:05:30.940 I don't know.

08:05:31.520 Like women do this. 1.00

08:05:32.240 All right, let's hear it.

08:05:33.040 What is it?

08:05:33.720 Yeah, go for it.

08:05:34.380 Oh no, um, okay, since we're not talking about like, we're talking about personality and

08:05:39.460 not like certain debating skills, although I think you're amazing, but I'm not going

08:05:43.620 to give it a 10, I'm not going to give it a 10, but your personality wise, I think you

08:05:48.940 have a beautiful personality and I give you a 9.99. 1.00

08:05:53.980 You're a fucking liar. 1.00

08:05:55.540 You're a fucking liar. 1.00

08:05:56.720 I'm not a liar. 1.00

08:05:57.520 Does anybody want to be honest?

08:05:58.800 Go ahead.

08:05:59.360 Come on.

08:05:59.920 I mean, like five.

08:06:01.660 W.

08:06:02.000 I would, I would.

08:06:05.220 The patriarchy is dividing the sexes.

08:06:07.280 See, I, I don't mind.

08:06:10.160 We had a conversation, what, maybe what 30 minutes prior to, um, you know, roughly we

08:06:17.040 walked in the door.

08:06:17.800 That was a good portion of it.

08:06:20.300 However, there is certain topics in here where it went from, okay, she seems kind of cool.

08:06:26.140 I, I guarantee you're outside here.

08:06:28.480 You're probably a great person.

08:06:29.420 I would never have a political conversation with you ever.

08:06:33.100 However, I would say in this room, when we entered this door and you started talking,

08:06:38.920 I would say like a negative one, but I mean, I think, yes, I'll sign here.

08:06:44.920 That's awesome. 0.98

08:06:45.820 Fucking W. 0.99

08:06:46.640 Courtney. 0.99

08:06:47.300 I mean, yes, Courtney.

08:06:48.640 Yes.

08:06:49.080 I would say you're very well-spoken.

08:06:51.420 I'm giving you another slice of pizza.

08:06:52.620 And I was surprised by a lot of your opinions.

08:06:55.420 What surprised do you, the fact that the sex is on the joint range? 0.78

08:06:58.080 I was surprised, I was surprised by your opinions because, um, you categorize yourself as a traditional

08:07:04.060 woman and have worked for Charlie Kirk, yet you do actually advocate for women having their

08:07:09.940 own individuality and their own salaries.

08:07:12.820 Feminism. 1.00

08:07:13.620 Their own safety net in a marriage.

08:07:15.920 Um, so that surprised me about you.

08:07:18.320 Um, but I guess if I were to rate it, I would just say seven.

08:07:21.880 Um, and I only bring you down a couple of points because there was like a lot of just

08:07:27.100 focus on you with, you know, debating.

08:07:30.100 Okay.

08:07:30.160 I got to get off the conversation.

08:07:31.720 It is interesting because we're all critiquing you from different perspectives.

08:07:34.620 We're close to the tail end here.

08:07:35.780 We're close to the tail end.

08:07:36.520 Let me blast through this.

08:07:37.660 Wow, that is quite the bride.

08:07:38.020 That is quite the bride.

08:07:39.140 Are you going to start asking us award questions?

08:07:40.200 How is it, you know, you're, you're this lovely Latina.

08:07:44.000 Uh, you should, we should have her back with, do you know Alex Stein?

08:07:47.940 Oh, yes, I do.

08:07:49.180 Yes.

08:07:49.560 Oh yeah.

08:07:49.780 We're having you back with Alex Stein.

08:07:51.160 Oh, that, oh, that would be so much fun.

08:07:52.540 Do you know his, nevermind.

08:07:54.100 Yes, I do know his motto.

08:07:55.820 Of course.

08:07:56.560 Of course.

08:07:56.920 Uh, let's see here.

08:07:58.520 Which one?

08:07:59.540 Number 99?

08:08:00.580 Pep on a lamp?

08:08:01.320 No, big booty Latinas. 1.00

08:08:02.980 That was the, yeah, that's his thing because of Ocasio Cortez.

08:08:06.440 Yeah.

08:08:06.820 I know.

08:08:07.000 I saw the video.

08:08:07.760 Yeah.

08:08:08.040 Okay, uh, I'm going to give super fast looks ratings, just face, not factoring in body.

08:08:14.400 It is a bit difficult with the makeup on, so, uh, yeah.

08:08:18.300 Um, okay, here we go.

08:08:20.320 Here we go.

08:08:23.540 I'm going to have you turn that way and then that way I'll have all of you do it.

08:08:26.740 Turn that way.

08:08:27.280 Turn that way.

08:08:27.760 All right, uh, 4.755.

08:08:36.880 Have you had, uh, you have lip filler?

08:08:38.900 I do.

08:08:39.400 Have you had any Botox in the face?

08:08:41.000 Um, I've had.

08:08:42.800 A little closer to the mic if you can?

08:08:43.860 Baby Botox, yeah.

08:08:44.520 I've, I've had Botox in my forehead, um, around my eyebrow.

08:08:47.960 Yeah, my eyebrow.

08:08:48.740 What was wrong with your forehead?

08:08:49.880 It, nothing was wrong with it.

08:08:51.220 I just, like, my eyebrow was, like, it twitches.

08:08:54.260 It twitched.

08:08:54.600 Sometimes.

08:08:55.240 So, like, it helped me, like, stop with my tic.

08:08:57.240 Or it stopped it.

08:08:58.540 Yeah.

08:08:58.840 It froze it.

08:08:59.900 It froze it.

08:09:00.620 Okay.

08:09:01.060 Kind of, like, trained it to stop.

08:09:02.120 Yeah, I think you have pretty good aesthetics.

08:09:03.780 I, me personally, aesthetically speaking, I'm not a fan of lip filler.

08:09:06.900 Understandable.

08:09:07.660 No nose job?

08:09:08.580 No nose job.

08:09:08.980 Natural nose.

08:09:09.580 Can you turn that way again?

08:09:12.260 Okay.

08:09:12.880 Uh, turn back.

08:09:15.820 Uh, no, no, no, just towards me.

08:09:18.340 I think I want to give you, uh, you're wearing, you're wearing fake lashes?

08:09:23.860 I have eyelash extensions, yeah.

08:09:25.400 Yeah.

08:09:25.580 Uh, I think I want to give you, uh, just face.

08:09:34.220 I think I would give you, like, 5.56.

08:09:37.260 You can skip me.

08:09:38.880 I'm not requesting it, but feel free to if you want to give your opinion.

08:09:42.740 Uh, okay.

08:09:43.260 Well, you're, you have about, like, three pounds of makeup on, so it's going to be, like, really hard to give a assessment.

08:09:50.220 Like, bucket, like, paint.

08:09:52.640 Sure.

08:09:53.100 Um, I mean, full face.

08:09:54.240 Again, I'm not requesting this assessment from you.

08:09:57.560 Okay, well, it's just a segment I do.

08:09:58.480 But, I know, I know.

08:09:59.260 Go for it.

08:10:00.000 Uh, I'll just be, uh, okay.

08:10:01.960 So, again, it's really hard to rate with, uh, makeup on.

08:10:05.160 I'm not going to do the side-to-side thing.

08:10:06.720 And again, I'm, yeah, that's fine.

08:10:07.860 And I'm not going to rate you lower just because you pretty much gave me an aneurysm all night.

08:10:12.800 So, I'm not going to do that.

08:10:13.780 I'll, I'll be, I'll be, like, fair.

08:10:15.760 I'm clicking that.

08:10:16.380 I'm clicking that. 1.00

08:10:16.600 I wouldn't just be, like, you're a fucking one. 1.00

08:10:18.180 I hate you. 1.00

08:10:18.680 I wouldn't do that. 0.95

08:10:19.360 That would be rude.

08:10:20.620 Um, I think, again, it's hard.

08:10:22.300 It's really hard with the makeup.

08:10:23.480 So, I'd be curious.

08:10:24.800 Uh, are you down to remove your makeup?

08:10:26.360 Is, we do a segment called Makeup Removal.

08:10:28.540 Is everybody down to remove their makeup?

08:10:30.460 No.

08:10:30.800 One thousand percent.

08:10:31.200 That's too much work.

08:10:32.220 And also, it's kind of degrading.

08:10:33.460 So, we've got to go home.

08:10:34.520 I don't see.

08:10:37.860 Well, I, I mean, I don't think it's degrading.

08:10:40.620 I think, I think it's actually more degrading that women don't feel comfortable. 0.98

08:10:43.480 Do you have hair extensions?

08:10:45.040 Yes.

08:10:45.540 Yeah.

08:10:46.020 Yeah.

08:10:46.660 Uh, I'll just go ahead and say, like, 5.56.

08:10:49.600 Um, you, uh, lip filler.

08:10:52.860 Looks like you've had some Botox maybe in the face, too.

08:10:55.620 Um, no.

08:10:56.520 A little closer.

08:10:57.320 I have Botox in my forehead.

08:10:58.320 Closer.

08:10:58.680 Can you come?

08:10:59.100 Can you come?

08:10:59.440 Sorry.

08:10:59.740 I have Botox in my forehead.

08:11:01.040 And my lip filler, I have, um.

08:11:03.300 You do?

08:11:03.600 I don't.

08:11:03.980 I had lip filler, but I don't anymore.

08:11:05.800 I just have it tattooed.

08:11:06.800 It is hard with the, with the.

08:11:09.720 Lip blush.

08:11:10.640 Well, the fake lashes, the fake lips.

08:11:12.660 That does.

08:11:13.020 And I have my hairline done.

08:11:14.320 I'll just say, I think I'm going to go ahead and say 5.

08:11:16.780 Uh, you, oh, I should have repeated your guys' ratings to you.

08:11:20.320 Okay.

08:11:20.640 I'll just, for the sake of my editor here, uh, you gave yourself a 9.99.

08:11:24.900 You gave yourself a 10.

08:11:26.220 Omit.

08:11:26.700 You gave yourself an 8.

08:11:27.640 You gave yourself, uh, 8.5.

08:11:30.100 Uh, face.

08:11:31.680 I would say, uh, 4.755 for you.

08:11:36.740 Uh, Anya, uh, what did I rate you last time?

08:11:40.140 Do you recall?

08:11:41.160 6.57, I think.

08:11:44.220 Okay.

08:11:44.640 Sounds right.

08:11:46.060 Oh, I think.

08:11:47.000 6.5.

08:11:47.880 Did you, uh, what did you rate yourself?

08:11:49.820 You get said 4?

08:11:51.020 Or what did you say?

08:11:51.860 4.4 body, 5.5 face.

08:11:53.900 5.5 face.

08:11:54.580 Yeah.

08:11:54.720 Uh, I forgot what, I forgot what I rated you.

08:11:57.740 I think, um, what did I rate you last time?

08:12:01.980 6.57.

08:12:03.860 Like 6.5 dash.

08:12:05.560 I'd give you 6, 6, 7.

08:12:08.080 Uh, 6 to 7.

08:12:09.440 Uh, you, you rated your face, uh, 9.

08:12:13.400 I would.

08:12:18.020 Hmm.

08:12:18.940 And I have no filler or Botox.

08:12:22.680 3.754.

08:12:24.720 Uh, you.

08:12:26.160 Okay.

08:12:26.440 What did you rate yourself?

08:12:27.780 Um, I said, I think I had a, uh, in California, I'm a 4, or excuse me, I think 3.5.

08:12:35.540 In Mississippi, I'm a 6.

08:12:36.880 I'd say 3.

08:12:37.640 Uh, I'll go ahead with, uh, uh, you know.

08:12:41.300 Mississippi, 6. 0.83

08:12:42.400 Mm-hmm.

08:12:43.340 California, I'm a little devil.

08:12:44.840 Look, you and me, we suffer from the same problem as, uh, and I'm, this isn't directed as an insult.

08:12:49.760 I think you have, like, your base face is, uh, has some strike, uh, I shouldn't say, that has, uh, some positive aesthetic components to it.

08:13:00.620 But you and me, we're both, you know, we got it, we're a little chubby, you know.

08:13:04.360 So I think when you're chubby, again, not saying that as an attack, but that's going to have an impact on your facial aesthetics, your facial attractiveness, uh, facial puffiness.

08:13:12.940 And it is going to have an impact on facial ratings.

08:13:17.140 So I, I think I'd say, uh, uh, 4.25, I want to say.

08:13:24.400 Uh, you, uh, hmm.

08:13:31.400 Uh, no, I, I'm not going to go, like, into giving positives and negatives.

08:13:36.720 Um, can you scoot into the table just a little bit, just so I can see in the, in the thing.

08:13:41.820 Um, you have very strong feminine dimorphism. 1.00

08:13:48.400 So you have very, which is a positive thing. 1.00

08:13:50.840 Uh, you have a, the fuck is that? 0.98

08:13:54.900 So like, for example, uh, she has more softer features, I would say, which is, uh, like a woman can be beautiful, but have like more sharp stripe, um, sharper angular features. 1.00

08:14:06.120 But she has a more like, but, but that 10 tends to be a more like trait that is appreciated in men.

08:14:14.720 So she has, she has strong, uh, feminine dimorphism, which means a bit more, um, softer features, I guess you could say, which is not a bad thing. 0.99

08:14:24.900 It's in fact a good thing.

08:14:26.420 Um, anyways, uh, I will stop prattling on here.

08:14:30.580 I think I would give you, can you look into the camera right now for me?

08:14:33.480 I'm looking in the monitor here.

08:14:34.540 Uh, I think I'd give you like a six.

08:14:41.080 What about the fact that she's a ginger and so has no soul? 1.00

08:14:44.640 Well, it makes her rare.

08:14:46.200 Yeah, it makes me very rare.

08:14:47.240 It makes her rare.

08:14:48.040 And she has pretty stripe. 1.00

08:14:49.380 You have like, uh.

08:14:50.580 Does that mean you could sell them without having like any emotional consideration if they have no soul?

08:14:56.580 Sell ginger people? 0.97

08:14:58.000 Just saying.

08:14:58.600 That's what they did to the Irish. 0.97

08:14:59.880 True.

08:15:00.800 Um, what color are your eyes?

08:15:02.580 They're like, uh, hazel?

08:15:04.040 Yeah.

08:15:04.880 Yeah, striking hazel eyes.

08:15:06.420 So, uh, yeah, I think six, 6.5 is a good.

08:15:10.260 Andrew, of course, gets a 10.

08:15:13.040 So, yeah, and again, I give myself a 4.5.

08:15:16.460 Don't get a 10 at the table.

08:15:18.240 Here's what we're going to do.

08:15:19.240 We have the rapid fire segment.

08:15:20.900 Um, we have the rapid fire question segment.

08:15:23.100 I'll wait until, uh, that girl returns, I guess, and then we'll do that.

08:15:27.800 Uh, we have two super chats.

08:15:29.280 A underscore and the mum underscore bear donated $69.

08:15:32.280 I need to fix that.

08:15:33.260 It's below the threshold.

08:15:34.180 Anya's smile carried the whole show.

08:15:36.380 Sorry, Andrew, but your appearance didn't hold the viewers.

08:15:39.520 It was the smile.

08:15:40.980 Okay.

08:15:41.620 Nice.

08:15:41.920 Yep.

08:15:42.600 Uh, Anya, speaking of, can I have you read this one?

08:15:45.680 Sympathies, Brian.

08:15:46.580 Not an easy job.

08:15:47.820 Chair three is bad faith.

08:15:49.180 Farming this.

08:15:49.980 Trying to avoid committing to views.

08:15:51.680 That's true.

08:15:52.440 Would be far more interesting to hear the views of others on the panel.

08:15:56.320 The ones that flew out here.

08:15:58.000 True.

08:15:58.820 True.

08:15:59.280 Yeah.

08:16:00.360 Uh, thank you, Nixian. 1.00

08:16:01.600 I do appreciate your super chat.

08:16:02.680 I didn't fly out here.

08:16:03.220 I just happen to be in town for work.

08:16:04.840 That's why I came here.

08:16:06.200 Okay.

08:16:06.360 I honestly don't think I would have just flown out just for this podcast, though.

08:16:10.140 Okay.

08:16:10.540 Anya, what about you?

08:16:11.960 Oh, sorry.

08:16:12.500 Can you read this?

08:16:13.280 That's why. 0.99

08:16:13.520 Oh, for fuck's sake, stop letting the TPUSA reject dom the convo. 0.99

08:16:18.120 She's actually outperforming the fem doms by trolling this whole time. 1.00

08:16:21.680 Don't let Andrew 1v1 her.

08:16:23.700 I don't want her to read his obit afterwards or anyone reading mine after watching it.

08:16:28.880 If needing ad revenue this bad, get out of California.

08:16:31.620 I've told you this many times.

08:16:32.860 Come to Florida.

08:16:33.860 Oh, I agree.

08:16:34.600 You should come to Miami.

08:16:35.520 Yes, I've told you many times.

08:16:36.720 Unless you're scared of debating a bunch of feisty Latinas that are very, very, you know, 1.00

08:16:42.160 culturally and socially conservative, but also have a mouth on them.

08:16:45.240 Yeah, right.

08:16:45.760 We've been down.

08:16:46.260 I've been down there debating them all the time on Fresh and Fit.

08:16:48.860 They're nothing.

08:16:49.680 The Santa Barbara girls are way more brutal. 1.00

08:16:52.080 Yes, yes. 0.78

08:16:52.720 Way more brutal.

08:16:53.680 No shade.

08:16:54.420 Wait, really quick.

08:16:55.160 I can help you guys vet the girls.

08:16:56.680 I'll bring some good girls. 1.00

08:16:57.560 No shade.

08:16:58.040 No shade to like Fresh and Fit.

08:16:59.580 But like when you get the California like feminist college liberal chicks, they present way more like, again, no shade of Fresh and Fit.

08:17:09.740 I'm not.

08:17:10.880 But yeah, like this idea that like the panelists in Miami are going to be better.

08:17:15.260 No.

08:17:16.180 Well, it depends what you mean by better.

08:17:17.800 For the purpose of your show, I get it.

08:17:19.200 But for disagreement, way better here.

08:17:21.860 Yeah.

08:17:22.220 Yeah.

08:17:22.580 We got the California West Coast libs.

08:17:26.640 Yeah, I agree.

08:17:27.020 In Miami, you got the like moderate.

08:17:29.660 Traditional Cuban women, man. 0.99

08:17:31.260 Yeah.

08:17:31.860 Yeah. 0.97

08:17:32.400 Traditional Cuban women, they'd come on and be like, you need to shut your mouth. 1.00

08:17:35.800 That's what they would say to you. 1.00

08:17:37.160 They'd be like, you need to shut your mouth, you feminist nonsense. 1.00

08:17:40.220 You're feminist nonsense. 1.00

08:17:41.800 They'd do the finger wagging shit. 1.00

08:17:43.520 No, no. 1.00

08:17:44.080 I would never tell anybody to shut their mouth, but we do speak out.

08:17:47.100 I didn't say you would.

08:17:48.080 Yeah.

08:17:48.400 I said they would tell you to do that.

08:17:50.260 Oh, you think so?

08:17:51.720 Yeah.

08:17:52.100 Maybe we should have a host.

08:17:53.260 The Cuban conservative women out there? 1.00

08:17:55.240 Yeah, for sure.

08:17:55.640 That'd be fun.

08:17:55.820 Andrew, do you still want a 1v1 with our homegirl here?

08:17:59.880 Yeah.

08:18:00.720 All right. 0.99

08:18:01.200 I think you might blow your head off. 0.95

08:18:02.160 We'll figure it out after the show. 0.83

08:18:03.580 Huh? 0.89

08:18:04.020 I think you might blow your head off. 0.97

08:18:05.260 Oh, no, no, no, no. 0.97

08:18:06.240 Well, here's the thing.

08:18:09.040 Just to, you know, since it's public right now, when I was writing back and forth, and

08:18:13.660 I think it was with Nathan that I was chatting back and forth, or it was with you.

08:18:17.460 Okay.

08:18:17.840 Well, you know, you mentioned if you get invited back, then travel accommodation.

08:18:22.720 What?

08:18:23.080 I will do that.

08:18:24.260 I will.

08:18:24.860 I will come back.

08:18:25.760 Did I say that?

08:18:26.700 What?

08:18:27.340 I have the screenshots.

08:18:29.160 I will share those, please.

08:18:30.700 If you do a lot of engagement.

08:18:32.820 And so I will come back, but my time is valuable, and I'm here because I was originally here.

08:18:36.840 Your time's not valuable.

08:18:38.080 I was originally here for work.

08:18:38.920 It's your TPUS.

08:18:39.940 It's not valuable.

08:18:41.060 Yes.

08:18:41.340 Why do you always have to make it about you?

08:18:43.060 No, I'll be happy to come, but travel accommodations are, can you guys not afford that right now?

08:18:48.060 I don't know.

08:18:48.380 I feel like you might have to.

08:18:49.960 I won't even take a speaker's feed.

08:18:52.480 You blew all the way out because of Andrew.

08:18:54.180 But all travel accommodations have to be paid for.

08:18:56.500 Yeah.

08:18:57.060 That's the deal.

08:18:57.800 Well, I mean, look, the people are going to criticize.

08:18:59.640 Look, life's not fair.

08:19:01.780 But life's not fair.

08:19:03.220 Look, some people get a little something.

08:19:05.260 I think that just means you're scared to have me back on.

08:19:08.040 I'm happy to.

08:19:08.980 Would you say that's a privilege?

08:19:10.000 I'm happy to be back on.

08:19:11.120 Do you agree to come back on?

08:19:12.460 Yes.

08:19:12.820 Okay.

08:19:13.020 Well, we'll figure it out.

08:19:14.480 We'll talk after the show.

08:19:15.240 But anyways, that can be figured out after the show.

08:19:17.120 Fantastic.

08:19:17.540 We're getting into our final segment.

08:19:19.260 I'll make a special trip for debate for that.

08:19:22.480 Yeah.

08:19:22.740 Come on.

08:19:23.440 Wait.

08:19:23.740 I almost feel like we should.

08:19:25.220 You and her.

08:19:27.640 Three days.

08:19:30.280 Three days.

08:19:31.080 Okay.

08:19:31.340 That does have to be compensated, not just travel accommodations.

08:19:34.300 I'm messing around.

08:19:35.120 I'm messing around.

08:19:37.680 Okay.

08:19:40.420 Name three countries besides the USA.

08:19:43.000 Oh, Lord.

08:19:44.060 Starting with you.

08:19:45.940 Okay.

08:19:46.300 And nobody can repeat, starting with you.

08:19:48.100 Go ahead.

08:19:49.240 Quick.

08:19:49.640 China.

08:19:49.880 I'm trying to wrap here.

08:19:50.800 So just into the mic, into the mic, into the mic.

08:19:53.900 China, Mexico.

08:19:57.600 You're up.

08:19:59.080 Oh, no.

08:19:59.640 Sorry.

08:19:59.900 That's.

08:20:01.320 Nobody help.

08:20:02.320 Nobody's allowed to help.

08:20:05.460 Brazil.

08:20:07.840 No, sorry.

08:20:08.380 That's not a country.

08:20:09.260 Yeah, that's a country.

08:20:10.100 Canada, Colombia, Thailand.

08:20:13.600 Venezuela, Peru, Ecuador.

08:20:16.500 Japan, France, Australia.

08:20:22.120 Ukraine, Russia, and Poland.

08:20:25.620 Belarus, Slovakia, Estonia.

08:20:29.020 Indonesia, Germany, Ireland.

08:20:32.660 Kazakhstan, Hungary, and Canada.

08:20:37.780 Canada.

08:20:39.240 Canada.

08:20:40.220 Nobody said United States, so United States.

08:20:42.500 I'm going to take that one.

08:20:43.600 I think you said besides United States.

08:20:45.320 Oh, besides United States. 0.99

08:20:46.380 God damn it. 0.99

08:20:48.320 Scotland, Afghanistan, Iraq. 1.00

08:20:52.140 Dope. 0.91

08:20:52.440 How many continents?

08:20:53.800 Now, some of these I'm just going to point to you, and it's not everyone's going to answer.

08:20:57.620 How many continents are there?

08:21:03.960 Do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do.

08:21:07.780 I think six to seven.

08:21:10.860 Six, seven?

08:21:12.020 Six, seven.

08:21:13.460 Six to seven?

08:21:14.820 Okay.

08:21:15.720 All right.

08:21:16.480 You're going around the table.

08:21:17.980 We're going to start over here.

08:21:19.780 Name one continent.

08:21:21.000 You can't repeat.

08:21:22.640 Asia.

08:21:25.320 Yep.

08:21:25.920 Next.

08:21:26.620 Africa.

08:21:27.500 Yep.

08:21:28.180 South America.

08:21:29.240 North America.

08:21:33.180 Yeah, or that's North America.

08:21:34.700 There's seven continents.

08:21:39.620 Europe and the UK, but that's part of Europe.

08:21:43.080 Did we say Europe?

08:21:44.000 Yeah.

08:21:44.420 Oh, we did say Europe?

08:21:45.080 No, you got it.

08:21:45.820 No, Europe wasn't said yet.

08:21:47.120 Oh, okay, Europe.

08:21:48.460 Russia.

08:21:50.380 Oop.

08:21:52.820 I honestly don't know.

08:21:54.080 Everybody took my answers.

08:21:55.700 I don't know anymore.

08:21:58.040 Antarctica.

08:21:58.440 Oh, I honestly, I'm not good at geography.

08:22:03.000 I don't know.

08:22:03.760 Oh, okay.

08:22:04.680 Wait, you're not good at geography?

08:22:06.140 No, I'm not.

08:22:07.740 Okay, what two, for you, just to pick on you.

08:22:10.760 Okay.

08:22:13.140 What two countries border the USA?

08:22:15.900 No help.

08:22:16.400 Mexico and, um, Hawaii?

08:22:27.060 No.

08:22:27.660 Yes, you are correct.

08:22:30.280 Hawaii is the country that borders the good British class.

08:22:34.500 Yes, let's go.

08:22:35.480 That was good.

08:22:36.300 That was good.

08:22:36.920 Here, try again.

08:22:37.660 Try again.

08:22:38.020 Um, Mexico and, uh...

08:22:44.020 No help.

08:22:45.200 You got this.

08:22:50.760 I believe in you.

08:22:56.720 Um...

08:22:57.440 You got this.

08:22:59.860 Hey, ya! 0.92

08:23:01.360 She just gave it to her.

08:23:03.500 She didn't even hear me.

08:23:04.740 Yeah, right.

08:23:05.940 China.

08:23:06.840 China.

08:23:07.240 China.

08:23:08.680 We share a land border with China.

08:23:12.620 It's actually the Great Wall of China.

08:23:14.440 Yeah, that's what goes between us.

08:23:16.460 So, so you, uh, you named one, which you said Mexico, correct?

08:23:22.220 Correct?

08:23:23.120 Yes.

08:23:23.720 Uh, is, is Mexico up or down?

08:23:27.980 Um, it's down.

08:23:29.660 Okay.

08:23:30.060 What's above us?

08:23:31.600 Um, Antarctica?

08:23:33.340 What else is above us?

08:23:35.720 Sorry.

08:23:36.200 Sorry.

08:23:36.900 Sorry.

08:23:37.760 Sorry.

08:23:38.380 Well, I guess it depends, like, orientation or whatever.

08:23:40.440 But what, what country is above us?

08:23:42.560 Canada. 0.99

08:23:43.320 Did, did you fucking say? 1.00

08:23:44.140 I said A. 0.99

08:23:46.700 That's a hint.

08:23:47.820 All right.

08:23:48.020 Uh, how many states are in the USA for you?

08:23:51.640 Me.

08:23:52.700 Fifty.

08:23:53.700 Okay.

08:23:54.120 What is the capital of the USA?

08:23:56.960 Um, Washington, D.C.

08:23:57.980 Okay.

08:23:58.940 Uh, name three U.S. states.

08:24:02.720 Oh, that's not fair to ask.

08:24:03.520 The Canadian? 0.62

08:24:04.440 Uh, California.

08:24:06.580 Uh, Ohio and, uh, New York.

08:24:12.400 All right.

08:24:12.680 Uh, going around the table.

08:24:14.620 Now, this will get progressively a bit harder.

08:24:16.740 Starting with you.

08:24:17.860 Name two countries in Europe.

08:24:20.660 France and Germany.

08:24:21.780 Can't repeat.

08:24:22.340 Go ahead.

08:24:22.560 Um, England and Ireland, I think.

08:24:31.300 Mm-hmm.

08:24:31.580 Yep.

08:24:31.860 Yeah.

08:24:32.380 Uh, Spain and, hmm.

08:24:37.160 Oh, Hungary. 0.85

08:24:38.340 Russia, Belarus.

08:24:40.500 Switzerland and Ukraine.

08:24:43.040 France and Greece.

08:24:44.920 Yeah, we already said France.

08:24:46.140 Oh, uh, Greece and Sweden.

08:24:49.280 Portugal, Slovakia.

08:24:51.600 I don't know.

08:24:52.560 I had a coach as my teacher.

08:24:56.460 He really wasn't teaching us much, but, I mean, I should have learned, like, more, but.

08:25:00.220 Have you been to Europe?

08:25:01.300 Um, no.

08:25:01.980 I've only left the country one time this last December.

08:25:06.280 Uh, I went to Thailand.

08:25:09.040 Name two countries in Asia.

08:25:11.620 Um, Vietnam.

08:25:14.960 And.

08:25:18.300 Thailand.

08:25:19.140 There we go.

08:25:20.280 There we go.

08:25:20.920 What about you?

08:25:21.300 Um, do we say Poland yet?

08:25:24.180 No.

08:25:24.820 Germany and Poland? 0.58

08:25:26.040 I said Germany.

08:25:27.100 Okay.

08:25:27.500 It gets harder as we go.

08:25:28.540 Okay.

08:25:28.880 Um, how many planets are in our solar system?

08:25:33.920 It's a good one.

08:25:34.800 I knew you were gonna, you know, get me with the, how many planets.

08:25:38.000 I believe it was nine.

08:25:39.000 And I think they don't include Pluto anymore.

08:25:41.060 So it's the sun, Venus, Earth, Mars.

08:25:45.240 No, you don't need that.

08:25:45.820 That's fine.

08:25:46.380 That's fine.

08:25:47.120 Neptune.

08:25:47.820 Irrelevant.

08:25:48.680 Immaterial.

08:25:49.160 Oh, okay.

08:25:49.660 I thought you wanted details.

08:25:51.660 Immaterial.

08:25:52.520 No, I just think you want the clip.

08:25:53.180 What are the other phrases?

08:25:54.480 Hearsay.

08:25:55.000 Wait.

08:25:55.740 Did you know half of those?

08:25:57.180 Google objections that lawyers say.

08:25:59.980 No, I didn't know any of them.

08:26:01.280 Yeah, there you go. 0.99

08:26:01.860 I don't know nothing about no fucking planets. 0.99

08:26:03.700 Objection. 0.99

08:26:04.400 Yeah.

08:26:04.680 Mercury.

08:26:05.440 Abstain.

08:26:06.100 Abstain.

08:26:07.320 Abstain.

08:26:08.140 Venus, Earth, Mercury.

08:26:09.580 Objection.

08:26:10.280 Relevance.

08:26:11.020 Jupiter, Neptune.

08:26:11.920 Objection.

08:26:12.660 Relevance.

08:26:13.240 Abstain.

08:26:13.900 Thanks.

08:26:14.820 Objection.

08:26:15.500 Speculation.

08:26:16.180 Yeah.

08:26:16.560 No.

08:26:17.280 Objection.

08:26:18.060 Argumentative.

08:26:19.740 Okay.

08:26:22.820 Objection.

08:26:23.460 Badgering.

08:26:24.780 Badgering to what?

08:26:27.620 Objection.

08:26:28.260 Too many good answers.

08:26:29.500 All right.

08:26:29.900 What planet do we live on?

08:26:35.460 I think Jupiter.

08:26:37.640 Jupiter?

08:26:38.160 Oh, my God.

08:26:39.500 No.

08:26:40.300 Come on.

08:26:40.680 Earth.

08:26:41.760 Earth.

08:26:42.440 Okay.

08:26:43.480 All right.

08:26:44.280 She's having fun.

08:26:45.940 All right.

08:26:48.460 Let's see.

08:26:49.760 You're going to get clipped.

08:26:51.280 Who's from California?

08:26:52.760 Who's from California?

08:26:53.820 Like born in California.

08:26:54.400 I'm so sorry, guys.

08:26:55.860 Oh, yeah.

08:26:56.520 What's the capital of California?

08:26:58.200 Sacramento.

08:26:59.160 Okay.

08:27:00.900 What is the capital of New York State?

08:27:06.040 Who's an East Coaster?

08:27:07.220 I feel like we'll be fair.

08:27:09.000 Albany. 1.00

08:27:09.760 Oh, shit. 1.00

08:27:10.320 Sorry. 0.99

08:27:10.660 No, it's okay.

08:27:11.240 It's okay.

08:27:12.440 What river runs through Egypt?

08:27:16.280 The Nile.

08:27:19.060 Was that racist that I asked the Lebanese girl?

08:27:21.640 I was like, I thought it was just unfair.

08:27:24.080 I was like, of course she's going to go.

08:27:25.040 What country, for you, what country, okay, get ready.

08:27:32.940 What country is directly north of Mexico?

08:27:37.600 Where do they all run to?

08:27:43.980 Hey, y'all.

08:27:51.360 North of Mexico.

08:27:52.780 Up the border.

08:27:53.640 Canada?

08:27:54.580 Yes.

08:27:56.140 I mean, she is right.

08:27:57.480 We will allow it.

08:28:01.460 We will allow it.

08:28:02.400 Oh, wait a second.

08:28:03.020 If you go far enough north, like, don't you get to, yeah.

08:28:06.520 The other side.

08:28:07.280 Yeah, you get to, yeah, so she could have just named anything south of Mexico, too, before

08:28:13.960 including Canada.

08:28:14.920 But then at that point, does navigation, like, direction just mean nothing?

08:28:20.040 Oh, God.

08:28:21.760 Yeah.

08:28:22.120 Like, what is west?

08:28:23.160 Well, I mean, if you skip the whole middle section to get to Canada, I feel like it doesn't.

08:28:27.460 But, okay, Andrew.

08:28:28.820 You said directly north.

08:28:30.360 Hold on.

08:28:30.580 The framing would be like this.

08:28:32.260 New York is technically west of California.

08:28:34.920 Yeah, if you went all the way around.

08:28:40.580 So, it would, like, yes, technically it's true, but it, you know, it's like.

08:28:46.140 Yeah, but I feel like if you can just skip one and then say, well, technically Canada is

08:28:50.400 north, then if I'm, like, I could just skip it then and be like, well, technically New

08:28:55.440 York's west, right?

08:28:57.440 The question does say directly.

08:28:59.680 Directly.

08:29:00.100 I think directly would seem to suggest.

08:29:03.100 Even if there wasn't directly.

08:29:04.400 Skip the whole midsection.

08:29:05.960 Even if there was no directly, I think the question would still.

08:29:11.820 Anyways, whatever.

08:29:13.040 How many months are in a year?

08:29:16.500 Twelve.

08:29:17.200 How many hours are in a day?

08:29:19.120 Twenty-four.

08:29:19.900 How many minutes are in an hour?

08:29:21.620 How many?

08:29:22.020 Sixty.

08:29:22.640 How many seconds are in a minute?

08:29:24.380 Sixty.

08:29:24.980 How many sides does a triangle have?

08:29:27.160 Sides.

08:29:28.060 Three.

08:29:29.340 Into the mic.

08:29:30.240 Three.

08:29:30.580 What do you call a shape with five sides?

08:29:32.180 A pentagon.

08:29:34.700 What do you call a shape with eight sides?

08:29:37.160 Octagon.

08:29:38.460 What country gifted the Statue of Liberty to the USA?

08:29:43.240 France.

08:29:44.700 You are correct.

08:29:46.120 What gas do humans breathe to survive?

08:29:50.960 Oxygen.

08:29:52.460 We will accept it.

08:29:53.600 What organ pumps blood through your body?

08:29:58.860 It pumps blood through your heart.

08:30:01.340 Nice.

08:30:02.000 What continent is Brazil in?

08:30:08.880 South America.

08:30:10.880 Sorry.

08:30:11.740 South America.

08:30:13.040 Huh?

08:30:13.380 Yes.

08:30:13.700 South America.

08:30:14.980 You are correct.

08:30:16.160 What country...

08:30:17.120 Excuse me.

08:30:17.540 What continent is Egypt in?

08:30:18.920 Dang, I don't even know this one.

08:30:23.640 Tilt your mic down a little bit.

08:30:26.580 I said I don't even know this one.

08:30:28.600 You got this.

08:30:29.740 You got this girl.

08:30:31.140 I got this girl?

08:30:32.200 Yeah.

08:30:32.580 I mean, it's in the Middle East, but I don't know if that's like the formal name.

08:30:35.720 Is it though?

08:30:37.160 Is it though?

08:30:38.640 Africa.

08:30:39.360 It's like right in the middle of all three of them.

08:30:41.520 It's right in the middle of all three of them.

08:30:43.020 But technically it's on the continent of Africa.

08:30:44.500 Did somebody say it?

08:30:45.460 Yeah, I said Africa.

08:30:46.480 What continent is Japan in?

08:30:51.140 Asia.

08:30:52.180 How many dimes make a dollar?

08:30:56.420 Into the mic, please.

08:30:57.640 Sorry.

08:30:58.220 What is the capital of France?

08:31:03.940 Capital of France.

08:31:06.260 Paris?

08:31:08.220 Final answer?

08:31:09.780 Yeah.

08:31:10.260 You are correct.

08:31:11.100 What is the capital of Japan?

08:31:15.700 Tokyo?

08:31:17.240 You are correct.

08:31:18.840 What country is immediately south of the United States?

08:31:26.360 Mexico?

08:31:27.360 You are correct.

08:31:28.580 There we go.

08:31:30.200 What is 1,000 divided by 10?

08:31:33.580 100.

08:31:35.260 If today is Monday, what day is it in three days?

08:31:39.200 Thursday?

08:31:40.760 You are correct.

08:31:41.260 If you have three quarters, how much money do you have?

08:31:44.740 75 cents.

08:31:46.480 I shouldn't ask the sex workers this.

08:31:49.580 How many nickels?

08:31:50.300 We are not being paid in coins.

08:31:51.920 How many nickels make a dollar?

08:31:57.020 What is 50% of 200?

08:32:00.120 100?

08:32:01.060 What is 10% of 100?

08:32:03.620 10.

08:32:04.260 What is 5 times 5?

08:32:05.800 25.

08:32:06.760 12 divided by 3?

08:32:07.640 Oh, 4.

08:32:14.020 Sorry.

08:32:15.580 36.

08:32:17.500 I think.

08:32:17.960 Wait, no.

08:32:19.560 36?

08:32:21.680 I think she was talking about it.

08:32:23.200 Go on the wrong way.

08:32:25.160 100 divided by 4.

08:32:28.400 Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike.

08:32:29.720 100 divided by 4?

08:32:33.020 Yeah.

08:32:36.480 Math was never my strong suit.

08:32:38.040 You got this.

08:32:41.760 Guess.

08:32:42.560 I know.

08:32:45.040 Well, 4 times 10.

08:32:46.760 100 divided by 4.

08:32:48.320 Yeah.

08:32:48.460 40.

08:32:51.340 No.

08:32:51.780 No, wait.

08:32:52.240 No, that's not right.

08:32:53.280 100 bucks divided by 4.

08:32:56.780 Oh, 25.

08:32:58.380 Yeah.

08:32:59.120 You put in the money.

08:33:00.740 15 plus 35.

08:33:07.600 50.

08:33:11.400 And math's not my strong suit.

08:33:13.200 Wait.

08:33:13.720 You are correct.

08:33:16.180 90 minus 45.

08:33:17.980 90 minus 45?

08:33:19.400 Yeah.

08:33:20.600 Into the mic.

08:33:21.960 Oh.

08:33:22.240 I'm sorry.

08:33:22.840 Hold on.

08:33:33.220 90 minus 45.

08:33:35.700 10, 90, 7, 6, 5.

08:33:38.300 So, 5.

08:33:43.860 I don't know.

08:33:44.740 54?

08:33:45.920 50.

08:33:46.940 45.

08:33:48.260 Yep.

08:33:50.960 Stop it.

08:33:51.620 How many branches of U.S. government are there?

08:34:00.160 Three?

08:34:01.700 Final answer.

08:34:02.540 You are correct.

08:34:02.720 Yeah.

08:34:03.740 Name one branch of the U.S. government for you.

08:34:09.500 One branch.

08:34:10.800 Judicial?

08:34:11.720 Correct.

08:34:12.600 Name another branch.

08:34:15.100 Congress?

08:34:17.560 The name of it, though?

08:34:19.420 Oh.

08:34:20.600 I don't remember.

08:34:22.620 Legislative.

08:34:23.300 That's what I was going to say.

08:34:24.620 What's the other?

08:34:25.440 Last branch?

08:34:26.340 There's three.

08:34:27.520 Judicial, legislative, and not supreme.

08:34:34.640 Supreme leader, Trump.

08:34:35.760 No.

08:34:36.120 Well, I was thinking Supreme Court, but that's not it.

08:34:40.320 Legislative, judicial.

08:34:41.700 I remember this in eighth grade, but it never stuck, I guess.

08:34:44.580 Yeah.

08:34:44.780 It's so brutal to do this as the final questions, too.

08:34:49.460 Green party.

08:34:50.360 After our brains are like, the green party.

08:34:52.240 No, we've been here in like seven.

08:34:53.500 I'm like, you've got it out.

08:34:54.740 Eight and a half.

08:34:56.240 It's executive.

08:34:58.780 I'll just, do you want to take a crack at it?

08:35:03.000 I don't know the answer, honestly.

08:35:05.020 It's executive, the executive branch.

08:35:06.500 It is the executive branch.

08:35:07.460 What document begins with, we the people?

08:35:13.840 The Bill of Rights.

08:35:15.000 The what?

08:35:15.520 The Bill of Rights, the U.S. Constitution, the Bill of Rights that precedes it.

08:35:18.560 How many stars are on the U.S. flag?

08:35:21.340 I'm going to pick on the Canadians. 1.00

08:35:22.380 52. 0.63

08:35:22.700 52, right?

08:35:24.160 No.

08:35:24.880 Isn't it?

08:35:25.600 No.

08:35:26.520 Aronius!

08:35:27.100 She's Canadian.

08:35:27.820 Aronius!

08:35:28.660 I had to pick on her.

08:35:29.700 How many is it?

08:35:30.560 50. 0.99

08:35:31.020 Oh, crap. 0.91

08:35:31.800 What century are we in? 0.99

08:35:37.040 The 2000, not the 20th century, the 2026, yeah, 20th century.

08:35:45.640 Yes.

08:35:47.220 21st?

08:35:47.820 Yes.

08:35:50.020 21st century.

08:35:52.080 Okay.

08:35:53.180 Uh, what galaxy do we live in?

08:35:56.920 I've got to pick on you.

08:35:58.520 Um, the Milky Way. 1.00

08:35:59.680 Oh, shit. 1.00

08:36:00.120 She got it. 1.00

08:36:00.580 It had to do with milk or something.

08:36:02.060 I don't know.

08:36:04.160 Ah, she got it.

08:36:05.060 Okay.

08:36:05.620 Uh, how many in one dozen?

08:36:08.380 12.

08:36:09.700 Ah, she eats raw eggs. 1.00

08:36:10.840 Of course she knows about a dozen.

08:36:12.100 Yeah, of course she knows about a dozen.

08:36:13.760 I do.

08:36:14.060 Uh, how many months, how many months?

08:36:17.060 Ooh, this is a good one.

08:36:19.420 Hmm.

08:36:19.960 Who, who gets my wrath right now?

08:36:21.820 Yeah, you, yeah, you, oh yeah, oh yeah.

08:36:25.960 Oh, this is so much fun.

08:36:26.780 Oh yeah.

08:36:27.420 Um, how many months in a decade?

08:36:31.340 How many months in a decade?

08:36:32.680 Okay, so decades, 10 years, so that's, uh, what, 120, 12 times?

08:36:38.160 She did get it.

08:36:38.760 And congratulations.

08:36:40.060 Quick math.

08:36:40.440 You got it correct.

08:36:41.480 What year was the U.S. founded?

08:36:43.360 Back to you again.

08:36:44.900 1776.

08:36:45.580 What country did the U.S. gain its independence from?

08:36:48.660 Um.

08:36:49.960 Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike.

08:36:53.820 Texas.

08:36:55.080 I don't know.

08:36:55.560 What country?

08:36:56.520 I'm just joking, I'm joking, I'm joking, I'm joking.

08:36:58.680 Ah, what, what country?

08:37:00.540 What country did we gain our independence from?

08:37:04.960 Hmm.

08:37:07.120 You know, World War, you know, Germany was, Germany.

08:37:10.260 Germany.

08:37:12.040 Nine. 1.00

08:37:12.880 You know, those French, those dirty French. 1.00

08:37:14.780 From the oppressive Japanese. 1.00

08:37:16.060 It was from the oppressive Japanese. 1.00

08:37:17.400 It's true.

08:37:18.220 Uh.

08:37:18.520 Great tea.

08:37:19.640 What, what?

08:37:20.900 Was it Great Britain?

08:37:22.500 Mm-hmm.

08:37:23.160 Yes.

08:37:23.500 Yes.

08:37:23.720 You are correct.

08:37:24.220 Uh, what, how many inches in a foot?

08:37:30.660 What country is the Great Wall of China in?

08:37:36.080 That was wrong.

08:37:38.860 You got this.

08:37:40.460 No help.

08:37:43.120 She. 0.93

08:37:44.720 You like too much as well.

08:37:46.360 Why are you, wait, why are you counting?

08:37:47.800 China.

08:37:48.720 Okay, she got this.

08:37:50.040 She knew.

08:37:50.560 She was trolling.

08:37:51.440 She was doing a little troll.

08:37:52.320 Who was, who was the first president of the USA?

08:37:58.120 You.

08:37:59.040 George Washington.

08:38:00.480 Dropping down the cherry tree.

08:38:01.600 Okay.

08:38:02.040 Uh.

08:38:02.720 How many seasons are there?

08:38:06.020 There are four seasons.

08:38:07.760 How many days in a year?

08:38:09.300 Grand Canyon, 65.

08:38:10.520 An elite beer, 66.

08:38:11.940 Well done.

08:38:12.560 How many letters in the alphabet?

08:38:14.020 Twenty, 26.

08:38:15.580 How many, wait, are you sure?

08:38:18.080 Yeah.

08:38:19.440 You are correct.

08:38:20.000 How many days of the week end with the letter Y?

08:38:28.440 Um, seven.

08:38:30.660 Yeah, she got it.

08:38:31.720 She got it.

08:38:32.500 What language do the people in Idaho speak?

08:38:35.820 You in the corner?

08:38:36.800 English.

08:38:37.960 English.

08:38:38.480 No, they don't.

08:38:38.980 They speak Irish. 1.00

08:38:40.100 God damn it. 1.00

08:38:41.020 Uh, DP, oh, DPG. 1.00

08:38:43.020 Wait.

08:38:43.780 I recognize your name, man.

08:38:45.020 Where you been?

08:38:45.960 Hey, yo, thank you for the 20 gifted.

08:38:47.840 Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

08:38:48.880 Wait, hold on.

08:38:49.920 Whoa, oh my goodness.

08:38:50.820 How did I miss this? 1.00

08:38:52.160 Holy shit. 1.00

08:38:52.740 Wait. 1.00

08:38:53.660 200 gifted subs.

08:38:55.180 This man is on fire.

08:38:56.700 Wait, pull up a, can you pull up the Twitch tab really quick?

08:38:59.420 Guys, uh, we have a few more questions.

08:39:01.740 We're almost here at the end.

08:39:03.060 Uh, guys, go to Twitch.

08:39:04.460 This guy, 200 subs.

08:39:07.860 That's like, that's over a thousand bucks, bro. 1.00

08:39:11.360 You're a fucking legend. 1.00

08:39:12.620 What? 1.00

08:39:13.460 You're a fucking legend, dude. 1.00

08:39:14.780 Thank you so much for your support, man. 0.99

08:39:16.100 Yeah, DPG's great.

08:39:16.700 That's for free.

08:39:17.880 Did he used to go by Jungle?

08:39:19.520 Yeah, that's Jungle.

08:39:20.140 That's Jungle, right?

08:39:20.600 Jungle F, man.

08:39:21.260 Wait, keep it up really quick. 0.96

08:39:22.400 Guys, if you're on Twitch, you know, look, DPG's a fucking legend, but we still need your 0.89

08:39:27.780 support over there on Twitch. 0.90

08:39:29.540 I need three prime subs. 0.99

08:39:31.100 I need three prime subs. 0.99

08:39:32.260 Show some support, guys.

08:39:34.000 This is a very involved production, very time intensive, money intensive to run this

08:39:38.520 show.

08:39:39.080 Just show some support.

08:39:40.560 Drop as a follow.

08:39:41.280 Drop as a prime sub.

08:39:42.480 It helps me produce this.

08:39:44.320 It helps me put on the show.

08:39:45.320 So show some love, guys.

08:39:46.820 Thank you.

08:39:47.160 Thank you.

08:39:47.700 Thank you, everybody who follows.

08:39:48.880 Thank you for the subs, guys.

08:39:50.260 Appreciate it. 0.98

08:39:51.600 Damn, that's correct. 1.00

08:39:52.640 DPG, you're a fucking legend, sir. 1.00

08:39:54.400 Okay. 1.00

08:39:55.820 Getting back to the questions.

08:39:57.460 What ocean is California next to?

08:40:04.220 You?

08:40:05.520 Pacific.

08:40:05.880 Thank you.

08:40:06.500 Congratulations.

08:40:08.060 How many years are in a decade?

08:40:12.160 Ten.

08:40:12.800 How many are in a century?

08:40:14.540 A hundred.

08:40:15.300 If a dozen eggs costs three dollars, how much is each egg?

08:40:20.060 Just because I'm bad at math.

08:40:23.140 It's random, sort of, kind of.

08:40:24.840 Yeah.

08:40:27.600 What was it?

08:40:28.840 Three dollars an egg?

08:40:29.920 What did you?

08:40:30.280 If a dozen eggs cost three dollars, how much is each egg?

08:40:33.100 A dozen?

08:40:35.940 They each cost three dollars, each dozen.

08:40:37.340 How much is a dozen?

08:40:38.760 Twelve.

08:40:39.260 Yeah.

08:40:39.760 So if a dozen eggs cost three dollars, how much is each egg for one egg?

08:40:45.660 Twelve divided by three.

08:40:47.880 So the whole dozen is three dollars, so twelve divided by three.

08:40:51.720 Right?

08:40:52.340 No.

08:40:54.120 Yeah.

08:40:55.800 Four.

08:40:56.380 Per egg, he says.

08:40:57.460 Four.

08:40:57.760 Wait, what?

08:40:58.680 Four what?

08:40:59.760 Four what?

08:41:00.540 Per egg.

08:41:01.620 Each egg is four dollars.

08:41:03.040 Wait, wait.

08:41:05.140 I'm not helping her.

08:41:09.320 Play the crickets.

08:41:17.500 You got this.

08:41:20.300 Come on.

08:41:21.780 How much for?

08:41:23.620 Per egg.

08:41:24.160 Per egg.

08:41:25.500 How much is each egg?

08:41:26.300 don't make me press a button i want to say four cents but i don't think four cents 1.00

08:41:35.000 no damn those are good prices where you find your eggs damn shit hook it up not in california 0.99

08:41:41.540 hook up uh rod yeah i know where to get good eggs you got the hookup i do i mean probably 1.00

08:41:48.720 the chicken she's got a chicken coop probably uh okay what is the closest star to earth for you um

08:41:59.040 vega huh vega what huh v-e-g-a vega yeah i don't know

08:42:12.840 it's not vega it's not i stare at it so we'll look at it every day okay it's pretty close

08:42:19.740 no helping sorry uh okay i wanna

08:42:24.260 i don't know what do you think sun okay

08:42:33.800 do you know what year the war of 1812 started

08:42:41.020 congratulations what country is the panama canal in

08:42:47.580 country yeah

08:42:50.440 not i want to country i was gonna say

08:43:01.800 is it in the

08:43:05.320 is it i don't know if it's the which because i'm thinking what continent is it africa is it in

08:43:13.420 could be africa could be europe no it's could be

08:43:17.620 but it's you said it could be in the u.s you said country not continent

08:43:21.860 no no i'm just saying but it's on it could be a country within those continents i think it's it i know

08:43:26.500 i think it's in africa but i'm trying to think of what what country it is

08:43:31.140 specifically so the

08:43:34.580 okay so if the panama canal is in egypt which country is the suez canal in

08:43:42.640 i don't know i don't know is it in panama no is the suez canal in

08:43:49.200 panama

08:43:49.700 are you giving me a clue is that yes yes if the panama canal is in egypt

08:44:01.040 what country is the suez canal in

08:44:04.840 wait is that suez canal i think you're confusing her more

08:44:11.340 yeah what country is the panama canal in panama i don't know

08:44:16.620 yes yes you are correct

08:44:18.180 what is 34 plus 66

08:44:22.800 34 plus 66 yeah can i use my fingers

08:44:27.440 are you counting 98

08:44:43.900 yeah yeah uh what is what is 34 plus 66 oh i thought you said 33

08:44:50.660 sorry wait a 98 what'd you say 34 34 plus 66

08:44:54.880 before you answer what's your answer 99 104 104 uh what's your answer 100

08:45:02.200 you are correct it's okay you guys

08:45:06.160 what uh where did the attack on pearl harbor take place

08:45:14.320 pearl harbor actually correct yes i would have accepted hawaii but pearl harbor is acceptable

08:45:24.720 what country or hold on what is 100 minus 66 44

08:45:31.740 34 there you go uh what what country did the vietnam war

08:45:40.780 happen in

08:45:43.100 asia

08:45:45.180 yeah that is a continent

08:45:47.900 what country though oh

08:45:49.740 microphone a little closer

08:45:52.840 vietnam 0.99

08:45:57.360 i got some fucking genius iq here oh my god these girls are really doing really good 0.99

08:46:03.860 uh okay what is 100 minus 34 0.99

08:46:07.400 you

08:46:12.340 66

08:46:14.420 yes you are correct who is the current u.s do i pick on the canadian

08:46:21.180 i think everyone knows who is the current u.s president oh my god i don't know wait wait wait

08:46:29.420 who is the current u.s president hold on

08:46:32.200 i don't know yes you do wait closer yes you do

08:46:36.440 it was okay so i think it might be trump now right okay yes okay

08:46:42.280 i don't even know who the prime minister is right now i'm not gonna lie name the last three u.s presidents

08:46:49.320 okay um

08:46:51.340 not excluding trump

08:46:56.340 he counts right yeah and

08:47:00.340 who was before trump

08:47:02.740 obama

08:47:06.540 congratulations

08:47:08.180 uh what is seven what is 77

08:47:12.560 plus 33

08:47:14.480 go eat some ramy

08:47:26.380 um

08:47:26.940 77 plus 33

08:47:30.000 100

08:47:33.880 77 plus 33 0.99

08:47:36.320 oh fuck i should have 0.98

08:47:37.260 no maybe she got it right i'm just asking other people 1.00

08:47:39.400 oh 110

08:47:41.660 a hundred and

08:47:45.740 what are you

08:47:46.920 11

08:47:47.600 oh no 110

08:47:49.120 what are you guys doing 1.00

08:47:50.500 fucking math over here that's just crazy 1.00

08:47:52.220 y'all crazy 1.00

08:47:53.440 all right uh

08:47:55.680 uh what what is uh if you were born if you were born 10 years ago how old would you be today

08:48:02.220 32 so i'd be 22

08:48:07.340 oh if i was born 10 years ago

08:48:09.800 say repeat your question

08:48:12.140 i already said it

08:48:13.240 maybe you should be paying better attention

08:48:15.400 well i was laid back here but go ahead

08:48:17.060 what was the answer

08:48:17.620 what was your question

08:48:19.460 what was can you repeat the answer that you gave

08:48:21.980 if i had been born 10 years ago what age would i be

08:48:25.420 yeah today but like so you're 32 so

08:48:27.840 22

08:48:28.600 yeah so if you were um

08:48:32.040 or sorry you're 32 or you're 32 so if you were born 10 years ago you'd be 22

08:48:37.360 yeah

08:48:38.860 10 years oh 10 years ago with 10 years less no 10 years ago i would be

08:48:45.400 let's see that would be we're in 2026 i would have been born in 2016 at 2016

08:48:50.740 i was actually that was the year i graduated college so i was yeah 22 years old

08:48:57.300 objection

08:48:57.760 um i can't tell what was your final answer

08:49:03.880 wait wait wait

08:49:04.520 say that again 0.67

08:49:05.020 it's a final answer 22

08:49:06.760 if i had been born 10 years ago i would be 10 years old

08:49:10.660 thanks i'm it's a seven hour podcast

08:49:13.140 yeah but yeah

08:49:15.200 good good good gotcha i know that's the one clip you're gonna play out of all this

08:49:20.060 whole

08:49:20.580 oh there's plenty in the clip don't worry

08:49:22.360 no i bet this is the one that does it for you

08:49:24.900 yeah

08:49:27.380 well i think this is the one

08:49:30.140 it's the first one that's gonna come up

08:49:31.820 y'all do the 500

08:49:32.720 doubt it

08:49:34.980 how many world wars

08:49:37.140 can you can you name me the four cycles of the women's menstrual cycle still

08:49:40.760 because this is still a dating podcast and you still haven't been

08:49:43.660 you know it's funny she's upset that i'm asking these questions but she asked me

08:49:47.040 she asked me uh the the thing about the the four phases

08:49:51.700 because it's the essential part of being a woman 0.93

08:49:54.500 oh brian you didn't know the four phases

08:49:56.540 yeah it's essential to being a woman and this is a dating podcast

08:49:59.480 i might be wrong

08:50:00.340 do you know the three phases of the man i was gonna say i might be wrong but i'm

08:50:04.300 pretty sure men go through cycles 0.99

08:50:06.460 it doesn't have a 24 hour cycle

08:50:09.240 yeah yeah yeah

08:50:09.860 you didn't even know you know how long it takes 0.98

08:50:13.080 where's the clitoris 1.00

08:50:14.300 for a man to 0.99

08:50:15.520 show me where the clitoris is i'm lost 1.00

08:50:17.720 i don't know what you think 0.96

08:50:19.960 no but you didn't even know you know how long it takes for a man to you know

08:50:23.820 reproduce their own

08:50:24.940 sperm for procreation and this is again a dating podcast and so i feel like i know

08:50:29.520 more about i don't think he's getting ready to procreate right now

08:50:32.100 then no i then well it's a dating podcast right

08:50:37.500 there's nothing more essential to being a woman

08:50:39.460 than uh than their cycle 0.95

08:50:42.160 sexual health is very important

08:50:45.480 you could just google it you could have googled it in this entire time since the

08:50:48.020 first time i asked you do you know what the four are

08:50:50.660 don't really care oh i'm sure you don't care don't really

08:50:54.800 i know it does affect your relationship though

08:50:57.040 why why do they need to why does it have to i mean it doesn't have to but it

08:51:00.820 does affect you for a more successful relationship

08:51:03.300 wait wait wait i'm still finishing up the questions

08:51:05.620 hold on

08:51:06.540 because i'm on my period

08:51:08.620 and i need to try two hours and i haven't slept

08:51:11.720 or you could just not be pissed off

08:51:13.780 let me before we get

08:51:15.380 sidetracked with the luteal phase

08:51:17.700 what is it called what is it

08:51:18.780 luteal phase

08:51:19.740 yeah there's a luteal phase

08:51:20.700 the the that's one of them i get before we get sidetracked with that

08:51:23.620 i'll finish up the questions uh okay if you uh wait did i do this oh

08:51:29.260 did i do 77 plus 33 yes

08:51:32.380 uh okay how many world wars were there

08:51:35.460 um two

08:51:38.380 two

08:51:40.980 you guys are correct congratulations going on three what is 66

08:51:45.540 plus 44

08:51:47.500 110

08:52:00.180 you are correct

08:52:03.980 what decade what decade was world

08:52:08.020 we'll just go around the table on this

08:52:10.140 what decade was world war one

08:52:11.820 so uh let me just hear let me when i say decade what i'm at

08:52:16.340 uh 1840s 1890s 1950s so i'm looking for just the decade not the years

08:52:23.300 pass

08:52:27.380 just just guess

08:52:29.060 1880

08:52:40.540 1880 okay what about you

08:52:42.340 quick answers if you can

08:52:46.180 well maybe two

08:52:47.100 i don't know 1700s

08:52:49.100 1700s okay 1.00

08:52:50.100 1910s

08:52:51.300 okay

08:52:51.620 1810s

08:52:53.180 1810s

08:52:54.420 1810s

08:52:55.020 1910s

08:52:55.780 1910s

08:52:56.260 1914 through 1918

08:52:57.580 she thinks she knows the dates obviously she might be mistaken

08:53:00.620 1910s

08:53:01.140 1910s

08:53:02.060 it's 1910s

08:53:03.780 they're 1910s

08:53:04.660 she's not mistaken

08:53:05.320 what was the primary decade of world war ii going this way skipping on you

08:53:09.720 and you can give it at the end

08:53:11.520 go ahead

08:53:12.120 it was in the 1940s

08:53:14.080 is it before or after america entered

08:53:16.820 huh

08:53:17.560 like are we talking 1930s pre america the u.s entering

08:53:22.300 world war ii was occurring prior to america's entry

08:53:25.300 it was 19th

08:53:25.420 yeah it was

08:53:26.840 so what primary decade of world war ii

08:53:28.720 1930s

08:53:29.840 uh 1940s

08:53:31.980 40s

08:53:33.380 it was 19

08:53:34.400 sorry what was the question

08:53:35.440 i didn't even hear

08:53:36.100 primary decade of world war ii

08:53:37.660 um

08:53:38.160 1850s 1930s

08:53:40.440 i think it was 1940s

08:53:43.840 okay

08:53:44.020 1940s

08:53:45.300 um

08:53:47.220 1930s

08:53:49.320 yeah

08:53:49.760 1940s

08:53:51.320 1937 to 46

08:53:53.780 uh

08:53:55.320 a little off there

08:53:56.440 a little bit off

08:53:57.340 but um

08:53:58.160 yeah and wasn't it 38

08:53:59.080 39 through 45 i think

08:54:01.100 well 37

08:54:02.320 uh

08:54:03.320 okay can you name

08:54:05.240 can you name one allied power one axis power

08:54:08.080 no

08:54:13.660 what does that mean i'm sorry

08:54:17.040 it's been a long time since i've been in history class

08:54:20.100 uh how about this

08:54:21.220 and this question will only be asked for two people

08:54:23.340 um

08:54:24.300 that's great

08:54:25.100 so

08:54:25.600 i'll give you one allied power and i'll give you one axis power

08:54:29.760 the united states was allied

08:54:31.740 germany was axis

08:54:34.840 so i'm looking for

08:54:36.480 give me a different allied power and a different axis power

08:54:39.800 okay a different allied power

08:54:42.080 um

08:54:43.800 europe

08:54:44.580 a country

08:54:47.860 country

08:54:49.500 sorry

08:54:51.040 um

08:54:51.860 i don't know i'm scared

08:55:07.240 one allied power one axis power

08:55:10.020 i'm not too sure

08:55:11.320 um

08:55:13.560 sorry

08:55:14.460 uh

08:55:15.020 it was the u.s

08:55:16.260 um

08:55:17.260 great britain

08:55:18.520 and then against

08:55:19.820 um

08:55:20.720 against germany

08:55:22.260 and

08:55:23.220 russia

08:55:24.220 and

08:55:25.040 i don't know if you want to wait

08:55:26.640 for somebody else

08:55:27.660 russia was an axis power

08:55:28.940 no

08:55:29.380 no no no

08:55:30.160 it was

08:55:30.780 yeah

08:55:31.120 it was

08:55:31.760 germany

08:55:32.720 against

08:55:33.500 the u.s

08:55:34.340 and the u.s also was on our side

08:55:36.660 so allied power

08:55:37.960 with great britain

08:55:39.400 and which one else do you want

08:55:41.680 another like one other axis power

08:55:44.320 another axis power

08:55:46.200 yeah so you said germany

08:55:47.340 what's another axis power

08:55:48.880 italy

08:55:49.360 we will accept that

08:55:51.280 can you name three

08:55:52.620 kardashians

08:55:53.940 kylie

08:55:56.580 kim

08:55:57.420 and kendall

08:55:58.500 oh

08:56:03.220 i think kylie's a jenner

08:56:04.340 kylie are both jenners

08:56:06.520 all right

08:56:07.480 uh

08:56:07.980 there's a few more questions

08:56:09.220 but we've gotten through the

08:56:10.660 those ones

08:56:12.020 um

08:56:12.900 so somebody here has a list

08:56:14.940 of their

08:56:15.700 who had the list

08:56:16.960 i have a list

08:56:17.940 it's called list

08:56:19.040 jet

08:56:19.660 can we give you your phone

08:56:21.280 and can you read it

08:56:22.120 the list 1.00

08:56:23.480 fuck i guess 1.00

08:56:25.600 okay 1.00

08:56:26.460 uh

08:56:27.460 let's see here

08:56:28.300 um

08:56:29.300 can you

08:56:31.740 maybe

08:56:32.380 nathan can pass you your phone

08:56:34.040 or something

08:56:34.380 um

08:56:35.200 uh

08:56:38.880 let's see

08:56:40.020 uh

08:56:41.880 oh here we go

08:56:44.460 uh

08:56:44.760 what percentage

08:56:45.800 do you want to just tell us

08:56:47.640 what your phone looks like

08:56:48.440 oh it's got the long

08:56:50.260 chain

08:56:51.220 attached

08:56:52.140 the big leash

08:56:53.080 leash

08:56:53.740 okay

08:56:54.000 here

08:56:54.600 just get that

08:56:55.420 and i'll ask this question

08:56:56.480 while we're waiting

08:56:57.020 um

08:56:57.740 what percentage of men

08:56:58.840 do you think are over six feet

08:57:00.120 uh

08:57:02.800 in the world

08:57:03.580 or the united states

08:57:04.560 we can do united states

08:57:05.740 that's fine

08:57:06.240 okay

08:57:07.380 wait

08:57:09.220 are over

08:57:10.000 yeah

08:57:10.760 okay

08:57:11.380 um

08:57:12.380 say

08:57:13.000 16 percent

08:57:17.820 15 percent

08:57:19.500 me

08:57:21.060 yep

08:57:21.520 over on the table

08:57:22.180 i'm not sure

08:57:23.960 but i'd say 10 percent

08:57:25.120 around 10 percent

08:57:26.880 10 percent

08:57:27.880 10 percent

08:57:28.560 i'd say

08:57:28.900 7 percent

08:57:31.100 22

08:57:31.680 12

08:57:32.820 i was gonna say 20

08:57:34.600 10 i think

08:57:37.060 okay

08:57:38.800 what percentage

08:57:39.820 of men

08:57:40.480 make at least

08:57:41.600 one million dollars

08:57:42.760 a year

08:57:43.160 starting with you

08:57:44.640 i'm curious

08:57:45.440 what was the number

08:57:46.180 what was the percentage

08:57:47.340 it's about 15

08:57:48.080 uh

08:57:48.780 go ahead

08:57:49.180 one percent

08:57:53.020 five percent

08:57:54.300 uh

08:57:55.180 over a million

08:57:55.760 it's in the one percent

08:57:57.040 enough

08:57:57.380 like two percent

08:57:59.800 maybe

08:58:00.220 one percent

08:58:00.980 0.01

08:58:01.600 five

08:58:02.380 five percent

08:58:03.600 i'd say one percent

08:58:04.760 one percent

08:58:05.860 what percent

08:58:07.320 of men

08:58:07.720 have yachts

08:58:08.800 what is the answer

08:58:09.320 on that one

08:58:09.800 yeah

08:58:10.420 it's less than one percent

08:58:11.480 for the previous question

08:58:14.320 what percentage

08:58:15.200 of men have yachts

08:58:16.640 um

08:58:17.560 point

08:58:18.220 three percent

08:58:21.300 0.5 percent

08:58:23.360 i'll say

08:58:23.820 0.5 percent

08:58:24.700 20 percent

08:58:25.580 three percent

08:58:26.340 sorry what

08:58:26.720 20

08:58:27.020 20

08:58:27.580 20 percent

08:58:28.680 of men have yachts

08:58:29.600 20 percent

08:58:30.440 of men have yachts

08:58:31.020 but they're not even

08:58:31.540 millionaires

08:58:32.080 i like her answer

08:58:32.900 but they can get a loan

08:58:34.800 you are from florida

08:58:37.960 there's a lot of yacht

08:58:38.720 owners in florida

08:58:39.640 yeah

08:58:40.180 still that's

08:58:41.460 less than one percent

08:58:42.440 like

08:58:44.420 under five percent

08:58:46.160 less than one percent

08:58:47.260 0.001

08:58:48.700 0.3 percent

08:58:49.760 i would say

08:58:50.820 point

08:58:51.180 i was gonna say

08:58:52.040 0.007

08:58:53.540 uh

08:58:54.300 show of hands

08:58:54.760 who keeps a list

08:58:55.560 of all the men

08:58:56.440 that you've been with

08:58:57.300 like her

08:58:57.620 anybody keep a list

08:58:58.540 on your phone

08:58:59.380 you know

08:59:00.640 like a guy

08:59:01.180 might have a list

08:59:02.180 becky gertrude

08:59:03.660 olga

08:59:05.020 yeah

08:59:06.840 i just like to know

08:59:07.960 everyone that's

08:59:08.920 been inside

08:59:09.900 uh

08:59:10.800 do we have your phone

08:59:11.740 do we have a phone

08:59:12.460 okay while you're

08:59:16.260 pulling that up

08:59:16.880 the question

08:59:17.260 israel tag team

08:59:18.920 guy

08:59:19.340 i'm gonna feel

08:59:21.220 i'm gonna feel

08:59:21.780 really bad

08:59:22.400 if i left anyone

08:59:23.240 out on this list

08:59:24.060 they could be

08:59:24.560 watching and be

08:59:25.120 really upset

08:59:25.940 who here

08:59:26.460 has ever had a

08:59:27.380 roster

08:59:27.740 who's had a

08:59:30.200 roster

08:59:30.400 a roster

08:59:31.760 a roster meaning

08:59:32.160 a group of men

08:59:33.420 that i stay

08:59:33.960 would sleep with

08:59:34.840 dating multiple

08:59:35.360 people

08:59:35.680 or dating

08:59:36.240 it could be

08:59:37.420 dating yeah

08:59:38.500 um

08:59:39.100 i've had a

08:59:39.720 roster

08:59:40.000 how big was

08:59:40.620 the roster

08:59:41.020 oh just

08:59:42.460 probably like

08:59:43.380 two or three

08:59:44.020 at the same

08:59:44.440 time

08:59:44.700 how big was

08:59:45.080 the roster

08:59:45.500 three

08:59:46.040 roster

08:59:47.720 three

08:59:48.120 roster

08:59:49.060 no

08:59:49.640 okay

08:59:50.740 uh

08:59:51.780 have you ever

08:59:55.720 i'll answer this

08:59:56.720 one

08:59:56.900 have you ever

08:59:57.760 slept with someone

08:59:58.620 the same day

08:59:59.180 you met them

08:59:59.780 yeah

09:00:01.520 i have

09:00:02.320 yes

09:00:04.720 i have done

09:00:05.020 this

09:00:05.340 no

09:00:06.080 dirty

09:00:06.560 yes

09:00:07.200 anya

09:00:08.400 cap

09:00:08.820 yeah

09:00:09.760 yes

09:00:10.620 yes

09:00:11.520 i said no

09:00:12.700 last time

09:00:13.320 uh yes

09:00:14.340 yeah

09:00:14.800 yes

09:00:15.420 absolutely

09:00:16.040 do you have

09:00:16.340 your list

09:00:16.740 i have my list

09:00:17.760 all right uh

09:00:18.580 just first names

09:00:19.440 i don't know if

09:00:19.800 you have like

09:00:20.080 yeah no for

09:00:20.800 just first names

09:00:21.640 and we're really

09:00:22.440 we're gonna we're

09:00:23.080 gonna do this

09:00:23.580 yeah just a little

09:00:24.040 fun segment go

09:00:24.740 ahead

09:00:24.880 okay 1.00

09:00:25.520 fuck i'm 1.00

09:00:26.620 definitely i know 1.00

09:00:27.620 i'm missing like a

09:00:28.320 few on here i feel

09:00:29.500 bad

09:00:29.780 just go ahead

09:00:30.120 just go ahead 0.99

09:00:30.580 yeah sucks 1.00

09:00:31.120 to suck 1.00

09:00:31.480 okay 1.00

09:00:32.000 starts with my

09:00:33.440 first boyfriend

09:00:34.120 julian kevin

09:00:36.440 cisco mike

09:00:37.840 levi alex

09:00:39.840 slash with my

09:00:41.460 roommate at the

09:00:42.180 time kylie

09:00:42.880 michael josh

09:00:45.620 dalton sean

09:00:46.820 ross george

09:00:48.300 ruben jake

09:00:49.560 mal which is a 0.94

09:00:52.280 threesome with my

09:00:53.020 ex josh lena

09:00:54.460 threesome with my

09:00:55.420 ex josh

09:00:56.160 mike gil

09:00:59.060 worst ex

09:01:00.080 of my life

09:01:00.520 tom

09:01:01.300 bragan

09:01:02.940 audrey

09:01:04.200 which was a

09:01:04.740 female 0.86

09:01:05.020 lucas

09:01:06.980 andrew

09:01:08.600 lucas and

09:01:10.160 natalie

09:01:10.700 chase

09:01:12.540 johan

09:01:14.000 adam

09:01:14.820 danny

09:01:15.700 daniel

09:01:16.380 dean

09:01:17.000 lucas

09:01:18.020 oh

09:01:19.020 there's two

09:01:20.860 guys in here

09:01:21.760 those were like

09:01:22.600 kind of like a

09:01:23.300 not threesome but

09:01:24.960 like back to

09:01:25.900 it was weird

09:01:27.220 kantari

09:01:29.520 erin

09:01:30.600 nate

09:01:31.200 bones

09:01:32.060 chance

09:01:32.820 lance

09:01:33.620 so i did put some

09:01:37.680 clients in here

09:01:38.680 i did put a

09:01:41.260 couple

09:01:41.620 23 year old

09:01:43.300 client

09:01:44.100 client

09:01:46.880 bobby

09:01:48.460 nico

09:01:49.220 kenton

09:01:50.040 rob

09:01:50.640 jay

09:01:51.400 mike

09:01:52.160 ducky

09:01:52.860 ducky

09:01:56.860 yeah

09:01:57.580 um

09:01:58.800 tony and

09:02:00.400 monica

09:02:00.880 apollo

09:02:02.640 aaron

09:02:03.640 chris

09:02:04.460 john

09:02:05.420 jc

09:02:06.920 william

09:02:09.420 there was a guy

09:02:13.600 that we all

09:02:14.600 tag team together

09:02:15.740 but he's

09:02:16.080 that's it

09:02:16.580 oh that's it

09:02:17.260 okay

09:02:17.620 that's it

09:02:18.000 there's a

09:02:18.400 there's like a

09:02:18.980 few missing in there

09:02:20.040 congrats

09:02:20.940 thank you

09:02:21.760 i love that for you

09:02:22.460 what did we like

09:02:23.100 about this list

09:02:24.120 i love that

09:02:24.960 anything

09:02:25.280 who here has

09:02:28.900 had a threesome

09:02:29.540 i've not had a

09:02:33.920 threesome

09:02:34.340 i only like to

09:02:35.900 disappoint one

09:02:36.680 woman 0.99

09:02:37.020 uh let's see

09:02:40.100 here

09:02:40.420 that's why the

09:02:41.420 women have each 0.96

09:02:42.040 other

09:02:42.260 more than a

09:02:42.940 threesome

09:02:43.320 like anybody done

09:02:44.340 like foursome

09:02:45.160 plus

09:02:45.700 i've been in a

09:02:46.380 group situation

09:02:47.520 okay uh

09:02:49.280 anyone had a

09:02:50.200 hofiz

09:02:50.660 it's okay

09:02:51.660 be proud

09:02:52.560 we out here

09:02:53.720 so proudly

09:02:54.400 yeah i've had

09:02:55.000 a little bit

09:02:57.000 you know

09:02:57.460 no okay

09:02:58.920 um

09:03:00.100 has anyone

09:03:01.920 anyone here

09:03:02.620 hooked up

09:03:03.260 with two guys

09:03:05.100 in a 24-hour

09:03:06.080 period

09:03:06.500 the show

09:03:08.300 okay

09:03:09.860 yes

09:03:10.140 yeah

09:03:10.520 yeah

09:03:10.840 sure

09:03:11.440 yeah

09:03:12.100 no

09:03:12.640 no

09:03:13.980 really

09:03:14.680 yes really

09:03:15.720 nope

09:03:16.180 okay

09:03:17.820 uh

09:03:18.480 for those of you

09:03:19.320 who said

09:03:19.540 what about your

09:03:19.760 birthday party

09:03:20.240 wait hold on

09:03:20.640 hold on

09:03:20.900 oh i guess my

09:03:21.920 birthday party

09:03:22.540 does count

09:03:23.900 objection

09:03:25.400 irrelevant

09:03:26.080 all right take

09:03:26.600 it back it's a

09:03:27.200 yes

09:03:27.500 uh just show of

09:03:29.840 hands again who

09:03:30.320 said uh who

09:03:31.420 said yes to that

09:03:32.020 one it was you

09:03:32.660 you you and you

09:03:34.240 okay um three

09:03:35.800 guys in a 24-hour

09:03:37.080 period

09:03:37.420 uh i think two

09:03:39.920 it was just within

09:03:40.940 24 hours

09:03:41.820 okay

09:03:42.800 three

09:03:43.320 shame to this

09:03:44.400 but yeah i guess

09:03:45.080 closer to the mic

09:03:45.640 closer to the mic

09:03:46.300 please

09:03:46.500 yeah sadly

09:03:47.480 yeah

09:03:47.820 just straight into

09:03:48.500 the mic

09:03:48.780 yeah

09:03:48.980 can't get on

09:03:49.540 if there's room

09:03:49.960 to scoot your

09:03:50.420 chairs in

09:03:50.880 um okay

09:03:53.160 three guys in

09:03:54.740 24 hours

09:03:55.380 i don't think

09:03:55.980 it was

09:03:56.260 i know i had 0.86

09:03:59.220 sex with two 0.94

09:03:59.700 people at my 0.97

09:04:00.180 birthday party

09:04:00.820 and they were

09:04:01.520 both my friends

09:04:02.100 with benefits

09:04:02.680 but i don't

09:04:03.900 remember if i

09:04:04.460 had sex with 0.55

09:04:04.980 a third person 0.99

09:04:05.720 like with

09:04:06.760 well penetrative 0.97

09:04:08.000 sex 0.99

09:04:08.640 gotcha okay 0.85

09:04:10.480 all right

09:04:11.720 uh how many

09:04:13.380 in a seven day

09:04:14.560 period what's the

09:04:15.380 most in a seven

09:04:15.860 day period

09:04:16.320 probably three

09:04:19.480 three okay

09:04:20.640 three

09:04:23.380 three

09:04:24.020 three

09:04:24.900 yeah

09:04:25.740 one

09:04:26.720 i did have

09:04:28.800 wait didn't you

09:04:29.260 do two in the

09:04:29.900 24

09:04:30.300 no

09:04:30.940 oh okay i got

09:04:31.760 mixed up

09:04:32.200 i did have two

09:04:32.840 boyfriends at once

09:04:33.780 because i am

09:04:34.260 polyamorous so i

09:04:35.280 would say two

09:04:35.880 okay

09:04:38.740 um

09:04:39.600 can you be

09:04:41.640 racist towards

09:04:42.980 can black people 0.58

09:04:44.220 be racist towards 0.51

09:04:44.900 white people

09:04:45.420 yes

09:04:46.300 anybody like

09:04:49.020 disagree with

09:04:49.520 that i think

09:04:50.760 they could be

09:04:51.140 prejudiced but

09:04:52.120 not racist

09:04:52.680 no so

09:04:53.600 prejudice okay 1.00

09:04:54.640 very ignorant 0.98

09:04:55.440 yeah but and 0.99

09:04:56.560 prejudice but not

09:04:57.540 necessarily racist

09:04:58.540 so a black person 0.97

09:04:59.840 could not be can 0.96

09:05:00.720 we uh just

09:05:01.260 whoever's talking

09:05:02.320 um can a black 0.98

09:05:04.920 so a black person 0.94

09:05:06.520 can't be racist

09:05:07.060 towards a white

09:05:07.560 person

09:05:07.920 could they be

09:05:10.220 racist towards

09:05:10.740 other races

09:05:11.420 yeah

09:05:12.160 if i go to africa 0.97

09:05:15.400 can black people 0.94

09:05:16.020 be racist towards 0.71

09:05:16.740 me

09:05:16.940 um i think they

09:05:20.640 could be prejudiced

09:05:21.400 not necessarily

09:05:22.200 racist

09:05:22.900 even though they

09:05:26.260 have systemic

09:05:26.760 power

09:05:27.180 what because your

09:05:28.100 argument is uh 0.99

09:05:29.440 black people can't 1.00

09:05:30.080 be racist in this 0.98

09:05:30.840 country because uh

09:05:32.220 they're not

09:05:32.640 systemically oppressed

09:05:33.500 they usually don't

09:05:34.380 treat white people

09:05:35.280 like that in africa 0.99

09:05:36.720 when they visit

09:05:37.500 what do you mean

09:05:38.260 treat them like

09:05:38.780 that um there's

09:05:40.040 some countries if

09:05:40.720 you go to as a

09:05:41.340 white person you'd 1.00

09:05:42.020 be killed 1.00

09:05:42.500 really yes 0.98

09:05:44.140 like uh definitely

09:05:46.580 like certain tribes

09:05:47.420 in certain african

09:05:48.920 countries they'll just 1.00

09:05:49.680 kill you because 0.99

09:05:50.760 reasons 1.00

09:05:52.600 i think that

09:05:55.720 like they'll even 0.98

09:05:56.520 kill like albino 1.00

09:05:57.540 black people 1.00

09:05:58.280 wow 0.98

09:05:59.560 yeah

09:06:00.100 harvest them for

09:06:01.680 reasons anyways

09:06:02.660 uh anyways i don't

09:06:05.040 have time to linger

09:06:05.580 on that uh are men

09:06:06.600 the problem 1.00

09:06:07.100 do men suck 1.00

09:06:10.160 for what 1.00

09:06:11.280 men are the main 0.83

09:06:14.940 problem 0.96

09:06:15.460 as the leaders you

09:06:17.660 did lead yourselves

09:06:18.620 into that

09:06:19.280 okay

09:06:20.260 men uh

09:06:22.320 men led

09:06:23.360 well it's a

09:06:25.040 patriarchy they're the 0.99

09:06:25.840 ones in charge so

09:06:26.700 they're we don't really

09:06:27.580 have a i don't think we

09:06:28.520 have a patriarchy at this

09:06:29.460 point

09:06:30.220 highly disagree

09:06:32.420 highly disagree

09:06:34.320 i believe we are in a

09:06:35.580 patriarchy 0.85

09:06:36.120 the president is a man

09:06:37.580 the main majority of the

09:06:39.340 cabinet are men

09:06:40.160 majority of congress are

09:06:41.980 men

09:06:42.400 senate majority are men

09:06:44.900 we're being led by men

09:06:47.400 matter of fact

09:06:49.460 yeah i mean

09:06:50.580 if i may i don't think

09:06:52.600 it's a matter of

09:06:53.760 men so much as it is 0.75

09:06:55.400 just objectively bad

09:06:57.740 people however you want

09:06:58.640 to call it and it's been

09:06:59.440 interesting too talking

09:07:00.280 about voting and voting

09:07:01.960 rights i mean i'm of the

09:07:03.620 perspective voting doesn't

09:07:04.460 really matter you can be a

09:07:05.380 little legal immigrant or 0.96

09:07:06.720 you can be dead and you 0.99

09:07:07.720 can cast a vote and you can 1.00

09:07:08.940 cast vote 50 freaking 0.74

09:07:10.300 times 0.96

09:07:10.840 so

09:07:11.880 yeah i don't know it's it's

09:07:14.640 all kind of a joke and i

09:07:15.920 don't think it's these men on

09:07:17.740 the top of it it's more

09:07:18.680 likely to be a whole bunch

09:07:19.760 of lizards

09:07:20.440 lizards okay

09:07:22.040 yeah

09:07:22.440 are they male lizards

09:07:24.420 though or female lizards 0.99

09:07:25.960 do men suck 0.98

09:07:27.040 they are probably non-binary 1.00

09:07:28.640 do men suck 1.00

09:07:29.920 that's what they 1.00

09:07:30.600 all men suck 1.00

09:07:31.520 or 1.00

09:07:32.200 do men suck 1.00

09:07:34.160 i guess that would be a 1.00

09:07:35.220 general statement 0.99

09:07:35.900 all men don't suck 0.99

09:07:38.860 i agree but 1.00

09:07:39.740 would you say most men suck 1.00

09:07:41.560 then 1.00

09:07:41.800 most men suck 1.00

09:07:44.120 yeah 1.00

09:07:45.060 most men suck 1.00

09:07:48.940 sometimes 1.00

09:07:49.820 sometimes most men suck 1.00

09:07:52.080 are men trash 1.00

09:07:54.080 or are most men trash 1.00

09:07:55.760 most men are trash 1.00

09:07:58.420 most men are trash 1.00

09:07:59.460 no i don't think most men 1.00

09:08:01.860 are trash 0.94

09:08:02.400 i don't think most men are 0.99

09:08:05.060 trash 0.91

09:08:05.280 what do you think 1.00

09:08:05.720 i wouldn't call them trash 0.85

09:08:07.760 but i don't really align with

09:08:09.600 them sometimes and their

09:08:10.680 values 0.99

09:08:11.220 but i have called them trash 0.90

09:08:13.780 in the past 0.96

09:08:14.380 yeah

09:08:14.760 if

09:08:15.180 you could snap your finger

09:08:17.160 and all men disappeared

09:08:18.560 and say women could 1.00

09:08:20.300 so it wouldn't be the end of

09:08:21.520 the species

09:08:21.960 women could just reproduce 1.00

09:08:23.220 without men

09:08:24.060 however that might possibly be

09:08:26.040 uh

09:08:26.920 would you do it

09:08:27.680 no i love men 0.99

09:08:29.340 even though they're trash 0.99

09:08:31.660 just kidding 0.98

09:08:33.780 i do

09:08:34.540 i love men even though most

09:08:35.600 of them are 1.00

09:08:36.140 suck 1.00

09:08:36.840 what about you 1.00

09:08:38.280 uh

09:08:38.780 snap your fingers

09:08:39.380 all men disappear

09:08:40.000 no

09:08:40.640 anybody take that

09:08:41.460 do you take that

09:08:42.120 no

09:08:42.400 okay

09:08:42.940 all right

09:08:43.760 you're not genocidal

09:08:44.680 at least

09:08:45.260 um

09:08:46.060 i guess that's good

09:08:47.000 uh

09:08:48.840 this is gonna be a 10 hour

09:08:50.120 one again

09:08:50.660 no we're pretty much

09:08:52.100 here at the tail end

09:08:52.820 okay

09:08:53.140 what are we at

09:08:54.060 no no definitely not

09:08:55.240 definitely not

09:08:55.840 um i mean that's pretty

09:08:57.440 much it for my questions

09:08:58.280 there's some remaining

09:08:59.000 notes from some of you

09:09:00.140 uh

09:09:01.040 so i guess we can blast

09:09:02.060 through those super quick

09:09:02.980 there's really not too much

09:09:03.880 left

09:09:04.280 i genuinely have to

09:09:05.320 excuse myself

09:09:06.380 i have to drive

09:09:07.240 la

09:09:08.980 yeah

09:09:10.140 yeah me too

09:09:10.800 it's like a two hour

09:09:12.460 drive down

09:09:13.100 so

09:09:13.460 okay i mean

09:09:14.060 uh if anybody

09:09:14.960 there are some of you

09:09:15.940 who do have some

09:09:16.600 remaining notes

09:09:17.280 if you guys want to

09:09:17.940 try to make it here

09:09:18.580 i'm pretty sure we'll

09:09:19.680 get this done within

09:09:20.580 10-15 minutes

09:09:21.620 so

09:09:22.540 if you guys want to

09:09:23.680 be good sports

09:09:24.260 stay till the end

09:09:25.040 but i do

09:09:25.840 to be fair i do

09:09:27.120 understand it has

09:09:27.760 gone late

09:09:28.180 um

09:09:28.960 okay kayla

09:09:29.620 done

09:09:30.000 uh

09:09:31.340 driana

09:09:32.700 driana

09:09:33.740 i don't know if we

09:09:36.900 have time to get into

09:09:38.640 your notes

09:09:39.140 but um

09:09:40.380 i welcome it

09:09:42.540 all right

09:09:43.500 uh

09:09:44.140 mary jane

09:09:45.760 yes

09:09:46.460 move on in

09:09:47.180 okay

09:09:47.460 of model

09:09:48.160 go-go dancer

09:09:48.900 uh

09:09:50.440 single

09:09:51.080 you're single but you 1.00

09:09:52.180 own a sex slave 1.00

09:09:53.280 yes 1.00

09:09:53.760 we talked about that 1.00

09:09:54.920 crazy shit 1.00

09:09:55.920 uh 1.00

09:09:57.140 count

09:09:57.820 countless honestly

09:09:59.220 most recently you took

09:10:00.080 a very sexy

09:10:01.020 some miss

09:10:02.340 uh skip

09:10:03.060 uh

09:10:04.580 hmm

09:10:07.580 when is the right time 0.99

09:10:09.200 to have sex when 0.91

09:10:10.200 dating somebody 0.98

09:10:10.900 a question you

09:10:12.020 contemplate a lot as a

09:10:13.120 woman with a high sex 1.00

09:10:14.000 drive 0.99

09:10:14.380 uh

09:10:15.380 but also high standards

09:10:17.000 i want to

09:10:18.340 i feel like i'm gonna

09:10:19.260 should move people

09:10:20.320 around a little bit

09:10:21.060 do you want to sit in

09:10:22.000 chair one

09:10:22.460 sure

09:10:23.180 let me have you in

09:10:23.980 chair one

09:10:24.600 and then i guess we'll

09:10:25.960 just keep it as is

09:10:27.060 uh

09:10:28.260 when it when is the

09:10:29.640 right time

09:10:29.960 so okay

09:10:30.440 what's your thoughts

09:10:31.120 on that

09:10:31.520 so for me it's

09:10:32.560 complicated because

09:10:33.460 i do have a high sex

09:10:34.980 drive um

09:10:36.340 but i also value

09:10:37.960 myself as a high value

09:10:39.220 woman 0.99

09:10:39.660 and i tend to

09:10:42.220 try to wait to have 0.95

09:10:43.700 sex with someone new 0.97

09:10:44.880 that i'm dating 0.98

09:10:45.680 but you know

09:10:47.200 sometimes chemicals

09:10:48.220 like the chemistry

09:10:49.480 like gets really

09:10:51.120 intense

09:10:51.520 and

09:10:52.360 you

09:10:53.340 um

09:10:54.440 are overcome by

09:10:55.580 sexual desire

09:10:56.640 but i'm constantly

09:10:58.820 going back and

09:10:59.820 forth of like

09:11:00.320 okay i should just 0.95

09:11:01.060 have sex when i want 0.98

09:11:01.840 to and it when it 0.99

09:11:02.500 feels right but at

09:11:03.280 the same time i think

09:11:04.420 well maybe i should

09:11:05.680 wait because if i have 0.85

09:11:07.260 sex too early that 0.71

09:11:08.120 communicates that i'm

09:11:09.220 easy or that um

09:11:12.040 the yeah just that i'm

09:11:14.160 easier that uh i'm not

09:11:16.700 as a high value woman

09:11:18.120 in the eyes of men

09:11:19.960 okay um

09:11:22.440 so you said you had

09:11:23.760 high standards

09:11:24.360 yes

09:11:24.820 what are your really

09:11:25.400 quickly just maybe you

09:11:26.500 could list three what

09:11:27.140 are your high standards

09:11:27.780 i would say

09:11:28.980 honesty

09:11:29.920 uh great communication

09:11:31.520 um

09:11:32.640 and

09:11:34.000 let's see

09:11:35.540 just somebody that has

09:11:41.140 their life put together

09:11:42.140 you know they have a job

09:11:43.260 they have a

09:11:44.020 a home

09:11:44.640 a car

09:11:45.280 okay

09:11:46.620 um

09:11:47.360 well

09:11:47.720 uh you wanted to

09:11:50.140 weigh on in on this

09:11:51.520 topic like

09:11:52.540 okay

09:11:52.880 if i recall like

09:11:54.820 when is the right time 0.97

09:11:55.540 to have sex with 0.97

09:11:56.120 someone you're dating 0.95

09:11:56.760 is that is that right

09:11:57.680 i mean i can weigh on

09:11:59.300 it i don't remember

09:12:00.000 specifically saying

09:12:00.980 i'm gonna recall you

09:12:01.720 wrote something about

09:12:02.740 it

09:12:03.040 perhaps um

09:12:04.320 like do you wait 0.99

09:12:06.720 to have sex or 0.94

09:12:07.760 yeah definitely i mean 0.92

09:12:09.920 i think there definitely

09:12:11.860 is an appeal to waiting

09:12:13.460 till marriage and to

09:12:14.880 doing that um

09:12:16.180 but i think it ultimately

09:12:17.840 it's for each person to

09:12:18.940 decide and

09:12:19.880 of course being in a

09:12:21.040 committed relationship i

09:12:21.980 think that's the ideal way

09:12:22.800 to do it but above all

09:12:23.800 to be ready

09:12:24.700 wait can you straighten

09:12:25.500 your mic so it's pointing

09:12:26.540 straight towards you

09:12:27.500 um

09:12:28.180 but above all

09:12:29.320 just lower it

09:12:29.920 lower it

09:12:30.440 above all if you're going

09:12:32.960 to have 0.99

09:12:33.500 sex with a man 1.00

09:12:34.860 as a woman 1.00

09:12:35.600 you need to be prepared

09:12:36.580 for a pregnancy

09:12:37.500 because that will happen

09:12:38.560 from

09:12:39.260 sex

09:12:40.220 you're and you're

09:12:41.320 against birth control

09:12:42.100 yes i'm not for

09:12:43.900 hormonal birth control

09:12:44.600 condoms too right

09:12:45.520 yeah is there a reason

09:12:46.440 for the condoms just

09:12:47.300 curious

09:12:47.660 yes in fact there's a

09:12:49.460 2014 danish study done

09:12:51.260 that showed over 200

09:12:53.060 different cancer causing

09:12:54.540 chemicals in condoms and

09:12:56.340 they tested over seven

09:12:57.180 different brands

09:12:57.920 interesting okay

09:12:59.520 didn't know that

09:13:00.240 uh

09:13:01.300 so you're pro-life

09:13:02.300 you believe life begins

09:13:04.780 at conception

09:13:05.540 uh

09:13:06.780 okay and uh

09:13:08.400 you even though you

09:13:10.220 you write even though you

09:13:11.140 have these conservative

09:13:11.900 beliefs you don't

09:13:12.620 associate modesty with

09:13:13.760 morality

09:13:14.280 okay uh you write

09:13:16.520 you don't think women 1.00

09:13:17.220 need to dress in a

09:13:18.240 certain way to be more

09:13:19.060 virtuous and that

09:13:20.480 bodies are not inherently

09:13:21.800 sexual

09:13:22.360 yeah i think in the

09:13:24.400 right environments i mean

09:13:25.380 obviously if you take the

09:13:26.440 the average joe off the

09:13:28.320 street you're not going

09:13:28.920 to be able to put him in

09:13:29.680 a naturalist environment

09:13:30.680 where people are naked

09:13:31.520 and not have him

09:13:32.220 go a little bit looney

09:13:33.900 tunes

09:13:34.200 okay all right

09:13:35.920 i don't really have much

09:13:37.580 to push back on there

09:13:38.560 um

09:13:39.340 but in terms of the i

09:13:42.000 think you didn't say

09:13:42.700 anything about like the

09:13:43.380 waiting for sex thing

09:13:44.160 i don't know 0.96

09:13:44.580 um

09:13:45.240 i think i might have

09:13:47.100 mentioned something that

09:13:47.920 if you're going to have 0.88

09:13:48.640 sex you should be 0.99

09:13:49.820 prepared for a

09:13:50.960 pregnancy

09:13:51.300 oh yeah

09:13:51.940 you know have some

09:13:52.780 plan and communication

09:13:53.640 for if that's going to

09:13:54.500 happen

09:13:54.800 that's fair

09:13:55.260 that's fair

09:13:55.780 uh okay

09:13:57.340 uh

09:13:57.960 let's see

09:13:59.500 mia

09:13:59.920 yeah

09:14:00.400 mia there we go

09:14:01.700 yes

09:14:02.040 uh you think

09:14:03.400 you wrote

09:14:05.240 that you think

09:14:06.740 the world isn't

09:14:07.640 wait no

09:14:08.340 you wrote

09:14:09.820 i think if you think

09:14:11.460 the world isn't equal

09:14:12.480 and men have the upper

09:14:13.680 hand that you're just

09:14:14.720 working the wrong job

09:14:15.660 what do you mean by that

09:14:16.820 quick answer

09:14:17.380 so i think a lot of

09:14:18.200 women like to argue 1.00

09:14:19.100 that men have the

09:14:20.980 higher paying jobs

09:14:22.220 and men have the

09:14:22.940 benefit in the world

09:14:23.920 of like

09:14:24.480 we don't get paid as

09:14:25.940 much or whatever

09:14:26.860 like it's an equal

09:14:28.300 unequal rights of 0.97

09:14:29.940 or unequal payment

09:14:31.940 in their jobs

09:14:33.320 but i just think

09:14:34.320 maybe if they

09:14:35.520 chose a different 0.98

09:14:36.400 job i'm not saying

09:14:37.340 necessarily that they

09:14:38.460 should be sex workers 0.99

09:14:39.620 or anything like that 0.97

09:14:40.780 i'm just saying

09:14:41.680 if they choose a

09:14:43.500 different job

09:14:44.220 it might not be the

09:14:45.300 case is all i'm

09:14:46.160 saying

09:14:46.580 okay you also wrote

09:14:48.060 uh just the fact of

09:14:49.560 being mischievous or

09:14:50.520 doing the same thing

09:14:51.320 guys do

09:14:51.900 but as a girl how

09:14:53.280 it's really no

09:14:54.120 different how you

09:14:55.800 don't think that god

09:14:56.940 shames sex workers

09:14:59.540 because you feel like 0.94

09:15:00.320 god is giving

09:15:01.040 i think he's

09:15:02.600 you everything

09:15:03.660 i think he's given

09:15:04.780 me the like

09:15:06.360 he did bless like

09:15:07.760 he is the creator

09:15:08.780 of all i think

09:15:09.920 including being a 0.62

09:15:10.860 sex worker

09:15:11.300 not necessarily

09:15:12.320 like technically

09:15:13.660 i guess he's some

09:15:14.820 in some form

09:15:16.200 because you're right

09:15:16.560 you think he blesses

09:15:17.660 you with everything

09:15:18.360 in life

09:15:18.940 i think that he's

09:15:20.040 given me the gift

09:15:20.540 all choices and

09:15:21.160 opportunities to come

09:15:22.280 your way

09:15:22.680 yeah

09:15:23.100 but haven't you had

09:15:24.100 opportunities related

09:15:25.120 to sex work

09:15:25.820 yes that's correct

09:15:26.720 and so that would be

09:15:27.180 due to god

09:15:27.700 i don't think it was

09:15:29.020 intentionally like he

09:15:30.380 was like okay i'm

09:15:31.140 going to give you

09:15:31.940 these opportunities

09:15:32.740 like i want you 0.91

09:15:33.880 to be sexual 0.98

09:15:34.620 and i take every

09:15:35.480 chance but i think

09:15:36.320 if he was against

09:15:37.960 me using my assets

09:15:39.260 in that sense i think

09:15:40.440 he is able to take

09:15:41.580 them away

09:15:42.140 okay gotcha

09:15:43.960 uh in a way

09:15:45.060 okay i think that's

09:15:46.220 uh you on you do

09:15:48.720 full nudity uncensored

09:15:49.900 videos you do bggg

09:15:52.000 scenes okay um

09:15:53.480 let's see i think we

09:15:55.180 just have true

09:15:56.340 my girl d

09:15:58.500 so it's like cn

09:15:59.460 can i call you how

09:16:00.040 tall are you uh five

09:16:01.500 six and a half all

09:16:02.440 right you're big d

09:16:03.280 now not like that

09:16:05.280 way but height wise

09:16:06.600 yeah you're you're

09:16:08.320 not i'm not calling

09:16:09.380 you that okay

09:16:11.560 she's got a big d

09:16:12.380 good job big d she 0.99

09:16:14.360 has a what oh the

09:16:15.900 energy not like

09:16:17.060 you're just big d

09:16:17.680 energy not a literal

09:16:19.120 like phallus connected

09:16:20.420 to energy yeah okay

09:16:21.780 uh hold on let me

09:16:23.280 check here uh okay

09:16:25.640 wait mary jane did we

09:16:26.880 finish uh unicorn

09:16:28.580 hunting really quick

09:16:29.380 what's uh is that just

09:16:30.380 like looking for a

09:16:31.380 third for the threesome

09:16:32.200 basically yes for the

09:16:33.460 threesome or for a

09:16:34.340 relationship i'm very

09:16:35.840 anti-unicorn hunting

09:16:36.900 okay we have mars let

09:16:37.880 me do mars then with

09:16:38.560 the dream big d

09:16:40.040 driana driana yes

09:16:42.580 it's like sienna but

09:16:43.540 with a dream driana

09:16:44.820 okay uh we talked

09:16:46.340 about your neuro

09:16:46.980 divergence um you

09:16:48.620 turn men into little 1.00

09:16:49.880 bitches uh we talked 1.00

09:16:51.760 about your disagreement 0.99

09:16:52.420 with the type of do

09:16:53.380 we show the bow video

09:16:54.380 oh they'll love that

09:16:56.180 really quick we'll do

09:16:56.780 the bow video okay

09:16:57.840 it's ai right no it's 0.99

09:16:59.600 real no fucking so 0.99

09:17:00.820 this is a video i took 0.98

09:17:01.940 so so big d i actually

09:17:04.360 this is a video i took

09:17:05.220 my ex-girlfriend to

09:17:06.780 prove because i knew

09:17:08.580 women would on this 0.95

09:17:09.840 podcast would be like

09:17:10.680 there's no way girls 1.00

09:17:11.420 are doing this shit so 1.00

09:17:12.760 i took this video my 1.00

09:17:13.560 ex-girlfriend one to

09:17:14.700 show women on the

09:17:15.360 podcast just to prove it

09:17:16.480 and then two why are

09:17:17.960 you shaking your

09:17:18.500 actual girlfriend now

09:17:19.600 or uh ex-girlfriend

09:17:20.740 and then two i

09:17:22.140 actually show this

09:17:23.080 video to to new

09:17:24.520 girls and i'm like

09:17:26.040 what is it of you'll

09:17:27.980 see but i i show it

09:17:29.480 like as a tutorial like

09:17:31.200 i i show it as a

09:17:32.400 tutorial to new girls

09:17:34.460 because i feel like

09:17:35.480 sometimes you know

09:17:36.600 a woman she's she's 0.99

09:17:37.780 she's uh drank the

09:17:39.280 kool-aid she's been

09:17:40.440 exposed to propaganda

09:17:41.340 she just doesn't get 0.75

09:17:43.000 it right so i feel

09:17:43.620 like you can't you

09:17:44.700 can't blame a woman 1.00

09:17:45.780 you gotta you gotta get

09:17:47.160 her on your program

09:17:48.020 you gotta show her

09:17:48.980 the ropes you gotta

09:17:50.320 you gotta you gotta

09:17:51.920 you gotta guide you

09:17:52.580 gotta guide you gotta

09:17:53.720 you know you gotta

09:17:54.540 bestow knowledge and

09:17:56.480 so i show this as a

09:17:58.000 tutorial video for all

09:17:59.300 your future girlfriends

09:18:00.180 all girlfriends so go

09:18:01.180 ahead pull up the

09:18:01.920 video all right start

09:18:03.400 it from the yeah go

09:18:04.260 ahead press play boom

09:18:06.820 greets me at the door

09:18:07.860 with a huge bow did you

09:18:08.920 see the bow she's got 0.99

09:18:09.720 a bow even if she's 0.97

09:18:10.800 white black latina uh 0.92

09:18:12.980 she has to hit a bow it's 1.00

09:18:14.000 not a cultural asian

09:18:15.020 thing uh and then she's 1.00

09:18:17.000 got my dinner ready look

09:18:18.000 at this what a great

09:18:18.820 gal got my dinner ready i

09:18:20.360 like the scampering

09:18:21.300 scampering very important

09:18:22.540 uh dinner ready cracks

09:18:24.280 open a beer for me i

09:18:25.280 don't even drink but i

09:18:26.320 like the smell of beer

09:18:27.420 it's weird um and then

09:18:29.300 she has to stir my

09:18:30.120 noodles and then get

09:18:31.180 ready as soon as it's

09:18:32.560 done nathan i'm gonna

09:18:33.340 have you press play

09:18:34.740 again right now just

09:18:37.640 press play boom huge

09:18:40.760 bow do you see the

09:18:41.380 bow that's the most

09:18:42.040 important thing i believe

09:18:43.180 it's not that deep of a

09:18:44.100 bow actually

09:18:44.800 so scoot into the

09:18:47.820 table a little bit i do

09:18:49.460 think a woman uh when i 0.99

09:18:51.140 come home after a long

09:18:52.180 day of podcast when i go

09:18:53.960 home i just want a

09:18:55.720 respectful bow

09:18:57.700 uh is that for me to

09:19:00.720 comment on honestly i

09:19:01.900 think it's kind of kinky

09:19:02.640 or or yeah it's pretty

09:19:04.120 kinky of you but it's 0.86

09:19:05.180 not even a who do you 0.53

09:19:06.220 want to get commentary

09:19:07.360 from thank you for whoa

09:19:10.560 she's kind of becoming

09:19:11.580 the base submissive house

09:19:13.760 wife you're asking for 0.97

09:19:14.760 permission no no no i'm

09:19:16.280 just i'm just wanting

09:19:17.260 wow

09:19:17.640 i'll let you have your

09:19:23.000 piece on it but uh let

09:19:24.220 me let me hear your

09:19:24.860 thought what do you

09:19:25.320 think what do you think

09:19:26.580 oh on the bow in

09:19:27.480 particular would you bow

09:19:28.580 for your boyfriend yeah

09:19:31.040 w based would you bow for

09:19:33.100 your boyfriend yeah would

09:19:35.200 you bow for your

09:19:35.680 boyfriend

09:19:35.980 mostly it's a joke but

09:19:37.900 but you're not aren't

09:19:39.740 you

09:19:39.900 i said i believe in god i

09:19:41.380 bow before you're not

09:19:42.140 like christian right i

09:19:43.240 don't go to a church

09:19:44.680 that's a denomination

09:19:45.940 so anything can you

09:19:46.800 grab me a water please

09:19:47.580 um but but yeah i bow

09:19:50.340 before god would you

09:19:51.840 bow for the for your

09:19:52.600 man

09:19:52.800 bow for your man

09:19:54.100 bow for your man

09:19:54.740 yes i would if i was

09:19:56.240 18 but i mean he'd also

09:19:58.280 bow for me it's not so

09:19:59.700 i wouldn't bow for a

09:20:00.540 woman that's fine you 0.99

09:20:01.860 know what i would

09:20:02.600 actually hold on i

09:20:03.480 would bow for the

09:20:04.040 perfect woman not that

09:20:05.700 women wouldn't even 1.00

09:20:06.980 want that but if the

09:20:09.140 trade is brian you have

09:20:10.420 to once a day you have

09:20:11.380 to bow i think a woman

09:20:12.020 would want their man to

09:20:12.820 bow with them for the

09:20:14.500 perfect it's a fun role

09:20:15.400 reversal i take the

09:20:16.860 trade huh i said it's a

09:20:18.700 fun role reversal even

09:20:19.780 for a day for your

09:20:21.180 submissive for your

09:20:21.960 perfect submissive woman 0.73

09:20:22.920 i'm saying even she

09:20:23.580 would probably want you

09:20:24.220 to bow to her just like

09:20:25.240 just to see it she

09:20:26.480 wouldn't but i'm saying

09:20:27.600 i would do it for the

09:20:28.360 perfect woman i doubt

09:20:30.380 that is she i don't see

09:20:32.160 you i don't see you

09:20:33.020 bowing for any woman

09:20:34.400 well i think that's

09:20:35.700 disingenuous of you

09:20:36.700 there's no such thing as

09:20:37.540 a per hold on wait

09:20:39.120 so if okay if the

09:20:41.440 perfect woman is 0.99

09:20:42.580 everything that i want

09:20:44.360 personality wise value

09:20:46.300 wise looks wise labia

09:20:48.460 wise uh what's the

09:20:52.860 other thing the bigger

09:20:53.760 the better uh and like

09:20:56.080 she's a billionaire yeah 0.92

09:20:57.580 and to i just have to

09:21:00.080 bow instant done the

09:21:02.140 billionaires would

09:21:02.900 trillion the billionaires

09:21:04.260 would did it not

09:21:04.900 everything else though

09:21:05.780 that's very self

09:21:07.080 interested of you brian

09:21:08.260 i don't know how

09:21:10.580 that's uh gotcha no no

09:21:13.820 gotcha it's just well

09:21:16.200 hey she'd have to be

09:21:17.020 look i mean mckenzie

09:21:18.920 bezos she's a bit old 1.00

09:21:20.120 for me but she can get

09:21:21.560 is she a billionaire

09:21:22.180 i'm sure you'd bow for

09:21:23.780 her yes and probably a

09:21:25.880 couple other millionaire

09:21:26.900 wealthy women too yes 1.00

09:21:28.840 but mckenzie bezos not 1.00

09:21:30.260 gonna lie she like she 0.99

09:21:31.200 she can get it mckenzie

09:21:33.980 bezos she can get it i'll 0.96

09:21:35.540 even go after the walmart

09:21:36.680 women she they can 1.00

09:21:37.660 fucking get it i'll go 1.00

09:21:38.840 after i mean i don't 0.98

09:21:40.740 know like the rothschilds

09:21:42.060 that might be a little 0.99

09:21:42.660 fucking crazy that might 0.99

09:21:44.680 be crazy but if they 1.00

09:21:45.660 got nah fuck the 1.00

09:21:47.320 rothschild wait wait i 1.00

09:21:48.400 didn't say that never 1.00

09:21:49.060 mind cut that shit i 1.00

09:21:49.900 know you're a little 1.00

09:21:50.860 scared a little scared 1.00

09:21:51.900 to say that shit but i'm 1.00

09:21:52.960 kidding it's a joke it's 1.00

09:21:54.020 a joke the rothschilds 0.99

09:21:55.040 please don't fucking 0.97

09:21:55.940 alive me uh okay so but 0.98

09:22:00.980 you think it's weird that 0.95

09:22:01.940 i want a woman to hit a 1.00

09:22:03.380 bow for me is that weird

09:22:04.420 i don't think it's weird

09:22:05.200 i was just thinking it's

09:22:05.900 a little kinky it's not

09:22:08.140 even like a sex thing

09:22:10.300 though it's just like

09:22:11.440 kink isn't inherently

09:22:12.520 sexual unless you're 0.96

09:22:13.660 asian it is not actually 0.52

09:22:15.700 i wanted to speak on

09:22:16.680 this earlier i'm pretty

09:22:18.280 i am a kink educator i

09:22:19.740 do teach workshops i did

09:22:22.540 want to speak their ego i

09:22:24.520 did want to speak more on

09:22:25.880 this earlier i have had

09:22:28.860 kink scenes where there is 0.61

09:22:30.320 no sexuality involved 0.98

09:22:31.720 objection irrelevant okay

09:22:33.380 very relevant i think

09:22:34.620 all of the women have 0.67

09:22:35.720 agreed among the table

09:22:36.860 that you need to respect

09:22:38.040 your man and the man

09:22:39.000 that you're with and

09:22:39.800 bowing is a sign of

09:22:41.060 respect so that's a way

09:22:41.960 that you show that you

09:22:42.580 respect them based red

09:22:44.240 head so based i show

09:22:46.300 different ways of respect

09:22:47.940 are you a blonde okay 1.00

09:22:50.100 never mind i i take

09:22:52.520 whenever my husband comes

09:22:53.760 home from offshore the

09:22:55.020 first it the first thing i

09:22:56.660 do is take his boots off

09:22:58.380 and rub his feet and i

09:23:00.180 think that's an equivalent

09:23:01.200 to a bow but if he

09:23:02.940 wanted me to bow i would

09:23:04.140 but because he deserves

09:23:05.500 it yeah and bowing i mean

09:23:07.760 let's go the form of it

09:23:08.920 has existed more in

09:23:09.800 western culture i mean it

09:23:10.800 is more in asia to bow but

09:23:12.240 then there's also the

09:23:12.920 curtsy which is true kind

09:23:14.420 of our equivalent there is

09:23:15.560 a kink for a 1950s

09:23:16.860 housewife which is i feel

09:23:18.360 like you're kind of living

09:23:19.420 with your partners bang

09:23:21.220 made i mean you know i'm

09:23:23.300 more into i feel like i'm

09:23:24.960 going prehistoric with my 0.99

09:23:26.640 shit oh no i'm not in 1.00

09:23:28.400 1950s maybe like that 1.00

09:23:30.140 night uh i'm looking for 0.99

09:23:31.980 like king henry shit 0.99

09:23:33.580 what about a bang 1.00

09:23:34.520 man i'm looking for 1.00

09:23:35.780 some king henry shit 1.00

09:23:36.760 like i'm gonna behead 1.00

09:23:38.080 them i'm trying to behead 1.00

09:23:39.140 a couple women i'm trying 1.00

09:23:40.480 to divorce a couple women

09:23:41.740 i'm trying to have what 0.94

09:23:44.000 was it uh divorced beheaded 0.99

09:23:46.140 died divorced beheaded 0.87

09:23:47.460 died something like that 0.97

09:23:48.780 that's my ideal

09:23:49.700 protestant reformation

09:23:50.860 yes i'm gonna usher in the

09:23:53.500 protestant reformation

09:23:55.420 again um i'm going to uh

09:23:59.000 what else did that guy do

09:24:00.380 um arguably start the

09:24:02.840 industrial revolution because

09:24:03.960 that was a huge divide from

09:24:05.720 god yeah what do you think

09:24:07.360 about the roman empire

09:24:08.240 the roman empire um i mean

09:24:11.520 what in particular about it

09:24:12.660 do i think that it was an

09:24:13.860 objectively good empire

09:24:15.100 i didn't actually uh that was

09:24:18.780 kind of just a meme question

09:24:20.100 but

09:24:20.360 okay because i mean i don't

09:24:23.000 there was a to be frank there 0.85

09:24:24.660 was a lot of child sex

09:24:25.880 slavery 0.98

09:24:26.240 yeah whoa hey i didn't want 0.99

09:24:28.700 to go there what the fuck 0.98

09:24:29.500 and it was very unfortunate 0.99

09:24:31.160 and a big part of that's

09:24:33.180 yeah disavow child

09:24:34.300 some would say it still

09:24:35.520 exists

09:24:36.160 that's right uh well that's

09:24:37.900 true um here going back to

09:24:40.220 homegirl over here uh let's 1.00

09:24:42.200 see

09:24:42.580 uh

09:24:43.920 wait hold on you went on an

09:24:50.380 app called uh some app you're

09:24:52.720 visiting miami with mary jane

09:24:54.980 and you matched with a nice

09:24:56.920 jewish israeli boy and you

09:24:58.720 met him for dinner and then

09:25:00.080 she joined the date and then 0.94

09:25:02.000 you tag teamed him

09:25:03.220 oh yeah yes he took us for

09:25:05.380 some drinks he also brought a

09:25:07.380 vibrator on the date unused

09:25:10.240 still in his packaging which he

09:25:12.820 held up and was one of the

09:25:14.200 reasons i was like yes let's go

09:25:15.640 it led back to the hotel room

09:25:18.200 and then and then you kicked

09:25:21.160 him out 1.00

09:25:21.500 yeah i didn't want to fuck him 1.00

09:25:22.920 so i didn't fuck him but it 0.99

09:25:24.400 was still considered somewhat of 0.99

09:25:26.160 a threesome i mean yeah because 0.99

09:25:27.480 i was i was fucking him and 1.00

09:25:29.500 she was on his face 1.00

09:25:30.580 and we high-fived

09:25:31.700 just the day before she had

09:25:33.060 mentioned how she's always

09:25:34.160 wanted to have a threesome 0.99

09:25:35.160 that's fucking disgusting 0.99

09:25:36.940 so the next day i quite 0.99

09:25:39.980 literally manifested us a

09:25:41.360 threesome and i look up at her 1.00

09:25:42.980 and i'm like high-five and we

09:25:46.200 high-five and then we were

09:25:47.980 like hey we're we got tickets

09:25:49.680 for space we gotta you gotta

09:25:51.320 go so objection reclaiming my

09:25:53.340 time um so you know i feel

09:25:57.400 like us men were the true

09:25:59.400 romantics you just invite this

09:26:02.920 guy and you tag team him and

09:26:05.400 you don't even cuddle 0.81

09:26:06.200 afterwards you just kick him

09:26:07.320 out like we you know what you

09:26:09.980 women you women we spent so 0.66

09:26:12.520 much time with him we did spend

09:26:13.920 a lot of time you you women 1.00

09:26:16.080 all you do is you think

09:26:18.560 about sex okay you guys think

09:26:20.940 about one thing and it's 0.96

09:26:22.840 disgusting okay i just maybe i

09:26:26.340 feel objectified when i'm dating

09:26:27.860 a woman i just frankly i feel

09:26:29.380 objectified frequently sometimes a

09:26:31.380 guy just wants to talk why can't

09:26:32.640 we just talk why can't we cut

09:26:33.820 some guys like i feel well i 0.93

09:26:36.280 don't i don't i want a woman to 0.99

09:26:38.340 see me for me not just use me as

09:26:40.800 meat not just well not never

09:26:42.980 mind uh just use me in that

09:26:45.100 way like i'm not a piece of

09:26:46.340 meat you know i'm definitely not

09:26:48.380 trying i'm a human being i have

09:26:49.860 feelings i have emotions and y'all

09:26:52.860 women y'all just be um i don't 0.99

09:26:56.360 know man we got to know him super

09:26:57.800 deeply we had really great

09:26:59.040 conversations with him i actually

09:27:00.540 debated with him about israel

09:27:02.440 because he was an idf soldier

09:27:04.720 yeah anyways wait that's funny are

09:27:07.680 you are you against and she's pro

09:27:09.820 yep yeah that's so funny we get

09:27:11.500 into arguments about it all the 0.99

09:27:12.700 time sleep together like have sex 0.50

09:27:14.500 with no we don't actually hook up

09:27:16.700 with each other it was a platonic

09:27:17.940 threesome boundaries yeah we have

09:27:20.140 roommate boundaries but we do

09:27:21.740 debate about it sometimes a guy just

09:27:23.260 wants to cuddle you know i'm

09:27:24.340 trying to y'all always trying to be

09:27:26.020 if we didn't already have and even

09:27:28.140 when we do talk it's just about sex

09:27:30.520 like it was a time sometimes a guy

09:27:32.080 just wants to cuddle you know it's

09:27:33.660 like y'all just i don't even think

09:27:35.980 that's what he really wanted he

09:27:37.140 definitely did not care to cuddle

09:27:38.380 with us he actually just like

09:27:39.520 wanted to go out with us and you

09:27:40.920 went on an awful date with sean the

09:27:42.380 destroyer craziest thing of your

09:27:43.760 life he picked you up in the car

09:27:45.560 that he told you was 125k uh he

09:27:48.160 arrives in a pink shirt with guns

09:27:49.820 all over it clutch your pearls

09:27:53.100 it's just an ugly shirt it's just

09:27:54.800 cringy and ugly like who does that

09:27:57.400 uh but why was it like really quick

09:28:00.200 why was it crazy he was he was rude 0.99

09:28:01.600 okay he was just a fucking crazy 0.99

09:28:04.440 person so first of all i also look to 1.00

09:28:07.460 come find out that he does have a

09:28:09.400 record as well so i'm like still down

09:28:13.120 to meet this guy he's i guess he's a

09:28:15.260 famous mma fighter known as the 0.93

09:28:19.060 destroyer i don't fucking know um but 0.96

09:28:22.160 he on the way to picking me up he's 1.00

09:28:23.960 wait oh yeah you fucked war machine 1.00

09:28:25.820 what no i said the destroyer oh so 1.00

09:28:28.200 sorry oh my god i was thinking of and 0.99

09:28:30.040 no we did not fuck wait jonathan 0.98

09:28:31.940 cappen wait do you guys know who i'm 0.99

09:28:33.900 talking for the record never mind i'm

09:28:35.900 so sorry brian i think i'm gonna head

09:28:38.360 out hold on i'm almost done i swear you

09:28:40.500 said that 30 minutes ago no he said

09:28:43.120 that i almost fell asleep on my way home

09:28:46.260 last time and sorry i had to pull over

09:28:48.800 at a walmart and fall asleep that's how

09:28:50.560 tired i was i'm so sorry no not your

09:28:52.980 fault we're almost there trust me give

09:28:55.260 it give it like five to ten more 0.99

09:28:57.640 minutes

09:28:58.040 like 8 a.m tomorrow wait wait you got

09:29:01.260 yeah anya you're gonna love what she's 0.99

09:29:03.220 about to say though check this shit out 0.99

09:29:04.660 right anya so this is what happened 0.99

09:29:06.620 right um he was the is this the same

09:29:09.760 guy sean the destroyer should i tell

09:29:11.280 the story like in a better way than i

09:29:12.740 just like quickly typed it to you

09:29:14.380 uh actually you know what i gotta move

09:29:18.220 it on for the sake of anya you know

09:29:19.640 you're being really rude right now

09:29:22.420 honestly like making this like dragging

09:29:25.060 this podcast i've been trying to end

09:29:26.480 this for three hours and i'm trying to

09:29:28.460 get my girl on your home like it's a 0.98

09:29:30.160 little insensitive like i've been

09:29:32.420 trying to wrap like all of you have

09:29:33.980 been really disrespectful and rude

09:29:35.620 because i've been trying to wrap this

09:29:37.380 show i wanted this to be like a three

09:29:39.360 hour stream but you guys have held me

09:29:41.300 captive like you know just like letting

09:29:44.240 this letting this no it's not even you

09:29:46.640 said it's not even you like i feel

09:29:48.560 like you talked way too much tonight

09:29:50.280 that was really rude of you to talk

09:29:52.640 you talked way too much and you too

09:29:55.600 just a total chatterbox over there so

09:29:58.580 rude can't believe it that's why this

09:30:00.440 podcast went so long but okay um final

09:30:02.820 note from you then we have my big d 0.99

09:30:05.560 home whoa that sounded kind of gay um 0.96

09:30:09.160 driana my uh dri driana like can i 0.96

09:30:13.200 call you d dog i mean no it's driana 0.99

09:30:17.440 sounds prettier more elegant uh if

09:30:19.680 anything hey i've got my necklace on

09:30:21.520 that says my name so objection

09:30:23.400 irrelevant keep going you can quite

09:30:26.120 literally remember

09:30:26.940 your final note you uh and it's going to

09:30:31.120 be super quick uh you had a disagreement

09:30:33.840 about you wrote having disgusting

09:30:36.100 anti-semite candace owens on your show

09:30:38.360 i said candace yeah you said yeah i just 0.99

09:30:42.360 don't really uh i think a lot of shit she 0.99

09:30:44.460 says is insane and ridiculous but i thought 0.99

09:30:46.520 we were going to tell the good story 0.98

09:30:47.760 well i mean i was just curious you did

09:30:49.360 write in your notes i would point out

09:30:50.800 that when i don't really have much to

09:30:52.100 say about it but this story is i would

09:30:53.880 point out that uh candace owens came on

09:30:56.280 the show this was like three years ago

09:30:59.100 yeah october of 23 we were watching it

09:31:02.620 last night and i was like like she was

09:31:04.060 still candace was still at the daily 0.81

09:31:05.740 wire so this is before some of the you

09:31:10.240 know okay and then before like the

09:31:12.600 conspiracy stuff so uh but i mean look

09:31:17.600 um is she actually i don't even know if

09:31:21.080 she's is she an anti-semite she said 0.99

09:31:23.480 some pretty anti-semitic things i i don't

09:31:26.660 know i can't make an accounting of

09:31:28.260 everything candace has said but i know

09:31:30.200 she's she does appear to be anti-israel

09:31:32.480 a little bit she's she's been you look

09:31:36.740 like you have a yamaka on your head

09:31:38.320 all right well we won't dive into that

09:31:42.180 yeah my favorite person who's ever been

09:31:45.960 on the show

09:31:46.380 i really hope i've made a good lasting

09:31:50.960 impression on you

09:31:51.920 lasting lasting impression i may have to

09:31:55.560 talk to a therapist after this but um i can

09:31:59.120 recommend some thank you there's some good

09:32:01.140 ones in in miami or are you wait are you

09:32:03.360 in miami all right um you know what i

09:32:07.320 actually need to uh utilize the restroom 0.83

09:32:11.440 so i'll be back in like 45 seconds

09:32:15.200 i've been sassy tonight so if you guys 0.97

09:32:18.640 want to talk shit about me while i'm gone 0.96

09:32:20.160 i won't even be mad okay have fun gg 0.99

09:32:22.880 i just wonder if anybody's been watching

09:32:26.180 this stream the whole time probably is

09:32:29.140 still out there

09:32:30.360 what is your life like

09:32:33.240 can anyone hear me

09:32:34.660 it's for somebody who watches stream for

09:32:36.880 nine and a half hours what is your life

09:32:38.300 like maybe you can say in the chat

09:32:39.940 probably work from home

09:32:41.440 well it's probably the same people that

09:32:43.620 used to play world of warcraft for like

09:32:45.320 10 plus hours

09:32:46.260 it's just asmongold watching yeah they

09:32:47.800 just like imagine like a guy driving

09:32:49.340 his like truck all day though like having

09:32:51.220 us play and just listening to us yeah i

09:32:53.360 don't know he could be currently working

09:32:55.140 that's what i used to do when i was

09:32:56.620 delivering pizzas is i was just throw i 0.99

09:32:58.620 would throw like shit like this on for 0.99

09:33:00.260 10 hours 1.00

09:33:01.040 oh wow just listen to it all day

09:33:02.860 yeah has anybody here listened to an

09:33:05.640 entire podcast of these before or no

09:33:08.480 for research yes i've made it through

09:33:10.440 i did for research purposes yeah

09:33:12.360 i don't think i've made it through an

09:33:13.520 entire one it took me a few days though

09:33:15.100 because i'm busy i mean i'm a social

09:33:17.200 worker i like do stuff all day i like

09:33:20.040 never stop admittedly i did like two

09:33:22.520 minutes of research like i know

09:33:25.800 everything now yeah i did all my

09:33:28.040 research in the last two days slash

09:33:30.500 dana day day and a half when she first

09:33:33.380 shared this podcast with me i was like

09:33:34.920 i don't think i want to do this i know

09:33:36.720 all i really saw this is actually a

09:33:40.280 pretty good opportunity to tell

09:33:42.000 everybody where to find you on socials

09:33:43.720 right

09:33:43.940 oh yeah so start okay you can find me at

09:33:48.320 unheated honey that's unheated like

09:33:51.260 it's unheated h-o-n-i-g 1.00

09:33:53.580 on my ig i am miss dot mars with three

09:33:59.680 z's only fans is miss goddess mars with 1.00

09:34:04.320 three z's

09:34:06.740 d-o-l-l-s-c-x-x-x-xml 0.96

09:34:20.140 i leave for fucking two minutes and 0.99

09:34:23.100 they're doing a fucking shameless plug 0.99

09:34:25.180 who could have possibly come up with that idea 0.99

09:34:29.400 is it you 0.99

09:34:30.760 give me credit are you kidding me i'm insulted brian check the stream ridiculous ridiculous 0.99

09:34:40.140 not me have i ever plugged my shit on here that's all good except for 0.98

09:34:43.900 that's cool that's cool have you ever cat called somebody with that um i want to be cat called 0.96

09:34:54.440 but you like that i think i have quite a few times i'll be honest i thought that's what you

09:34:59.820 i felt like yeah i felt like guys didn't get cat called enough so i was driving around with my

09:35:04.020 friend and we went and followed them around but they all really liked it assy quality they liked

09:35:08.520 assy quality yeah they like it for it yeah that's how it was supposed to be all right drayna

09:35:14.440 drayna like sienna but with a dray in front and i've spelled it out for you right here i don't know

09:35:20.800 there we go are you sure it's not drayno drayno drayno the swamp

09:35:26.340 brian i think i'm gonna hey yo we're almost done

09:35:31.780 you keep saying that and then 30 minutes go by

09:35:35.020 whatever time this is not like normal time this is like every conversation i've ever had with

09:35:41.780 my ex-girlfriend you're driving us to la now are you almost done

09:35:45.760 all right uh just kidding joke terrible joke okay uh previously married you can speak a bit

09:35:52.240 on that uh ideal topic would be breaking down exactly why people aren't getting married

09:35:56.460 uh while we that's a little long we talked about that i'll come back and uh we'll do on that

09:36:01.620 we'll we'll definitely have you on with we should have you on uh debate andrew uh interesting topic

09:36:09.600 i guess that the causes of the male loneliness epidemic kind of already hit on that um my hot

09:36:15.620 take i haven't gone over that we have it no it's a it's on there hot take hot take uh is it related

09:36:22.720 to the male loneliness epidemic no it's related to running background checks on people oh yeah yeah

09:36:27.680 well um man it's a good way to vet your person before ever going on a date with them like pay 25

09:36:34.940 dollars to a subscription to do background checks on dates i would do that yeah um moving it on uh

09:36:40.960 you wanted to speak on the topic of modern dating being unlike anything we've ever seen before not

09:36:46.180 because women are less traditional than before it has everything to do with millennials being the 1.00

09:36:50.280 first generation to have equal rights with the sexes you mentioned women weren't allowed to own 0.92

09:36:54.740 credit cards which we kind of touched on get alone before the 1974 equal credit opportunity act

09:37:00.140 uh you write since men and women are both finally recently able to be financially independent

09:37:05.300 the reason why people get into a relationship get married is completely due to consent and mutual

09:37:10.060 benefit respect and we have a loneliness epidemic because many people still expect dating to be

09:37:15.380 like how previous generations had it talked a bit about that um you think the government is

09:37:22.820 complicit in the disaster that we see in dating today as in they've purposely pitted these sexes against 0.99

09:37:28.060 each other for their own benefit um and they've created a system that makes it incredibly difficult

09:37:35.480 to have a successful marriage i would agree uh making it very difficult to afford a family on a single

09:37:41.120 income i would agree love to break down exactly why this is and what we can't do to overcome it

09:37:46.540 we agree on so much see yeah we're bffs best friends best friends did you want to elaborate on

09:37:54.160 on the last part yes well you said we had 10 minutes and it's already been like five but i'm happy

09:38:01.240 to i actually would have had to leave but my flight keeps getting delayed so i can i can i can make it

09:38:07.620 but yes i'm happy to elaborate on that i think that in the past uh people a family could be sustained

09:38:14.560 on a single income and unfortunately that is not the case anymore because the politicians that have

09:38:19.220 sold out our interest in favor of themselves getting richer and to gain more power and it is

09:38:25.740 in their vested interest that two people in a household be in the workforce so that they can

09:38:30.580 get more in tax revenue and as a result you have most adults that are in relationships uh in the

09:38:37.580 workforce and kids being shipped off to government schools as a result so this is breaking down the

09:38:44.620 nuclear family in different ways i think it's very hard for two people working nine to fives

09:38:49.060 monday to friday to spend a lot of quality time with each other um there's again this is a topic that

09:38:55.600 i wanted to talk about in detail throughout the show but i'll come back and elaborate on it more

09:39:01.060 but yes that's that's that's who i'm trying to say is the ultimate culprit behind a lot of this

09:39:07.320 battle of the sexes it is uh it has been the government's interest to dissipate the nuclear family 0.97

09:39:14.240 and we've fallen for that trap for that for that bait i also think that uh since this is the

09:39:21.800 reality that we live in where it's difficult to live in a on a one single income and have a whole

09:39:28.040 family on one income then uh traditional gender roles and what men's responsibilities are and women's

09:39:36.400 responsibilities are within a household have changed so if you have two working adults then both working

09:39:42.560 adults should be able to cook be able to clean be able to share those kinds of responsibilities

09:39:47.300 it's just the reality of what we live in right now i gotta be honest i have no more fight left in me

09:39:55.160 i would i would so debate you on all this but i another time i'll be back i'll be back good

09:40:01.820 now i've been sapped i've been sapped of my will to live will sorry will to fight it's completely

09:40:10.040 sat i've got a lot of energy in me but i do have a fight to catch yeah yeah so we'll uh we'll get

09:40:15.300 this here wrapped up here uh any final thoughts from anybody before we wrap up speak now forever

09:40:20.180 save my notes for next time what's that save my notes for next time you barely you sent like one

09:40:25.920 thing i sent in one note and i want to talk about it oh yeah what what is it well i don't want to talk

09:40:31.140 about it now i'll talk about it next time it's just that it's just anya gertrude mcbeth gertrude

09:40:38.640 mcbeth that's your middle name and last no definitely is ann marie nicole matusevich

09:40:45.640 okay if you say so any final thoughts from anybody come on canada

09:40:52.620 oh canada i think my i don't got much left to me either i got a final what do you think about 0.99

09:41:01.940 fucking trump dunking on fucking trudeau what do you think about america winning gold in hockey 0.98

09:41:08.400 over canada i mean the population of america is quite a lot bigger than canada so i mean i think 0.99

09:41:16.060 the star players tend to go to american teams we're gonna annex canada i think that should

09:41:21.780 and take alberta i've tried alberta because they're actually conservative over there and

09:41:28.340 they actually have most of the resources oh wait we can do your thing really quick men's

09:41:34.080 responsibility to take on the role of leading women towards goodness as men are the heads of

09:41:37.820 household and typically in charge i think it's their role to fix the mom situation yes so i think i

09:41:44.400 think i think women ruined a lot of it i think modern femininity was the downfall of society 1.00

09:41:49.860 but i think do you mean femininity or feminism feminism sorry it's fucking 10 hours after 0.99

09:41:55.360 feminism i think 11 now right i think i think feminism ruins society i think that's what really 0.65

09:42:01.980 drove us apart entirely but i think men being the providers being the heads of household should

09:42:09.280 lead women towards goodness and that doesn't mean that you should lead women that clearly have no

09:42:15.240 potential towards it like if a woman is like there's no leading her towards goodness drop that 1.00

09:42:20.500 and let them die out but the women that clearly have some kind of potential in them you should be the 1.00

09:42:27.380 leader you should be the teacher fucking repeal the 19th around it so that they can't like influence 0.98

09:42:33.200 the shitty stuff anymore and yeah lead them into it do you still agree do you still agree with her but 0.98

09:42:39.720 i don't agree with repealing the 19th but i do agree with men leading and i'm being led by a wonderful

09:42:45.740 man happily in a relationship why not repeal the 19th because i believe i have a good enough equal

09:42:52.200 voice i mean i just wore out brian yeah but uh middle-aged young educated young um college educated

09:42:59.720 women are the only people holding up the democrat party right now we need to stop i think education 1.00

09:43:05.460 so so i think men do play have a have a role in bringing this country a very important role in

09:43:12.940 bringing the country back we're so back we're gonna be so back but we're not back yet we're not so back

09:43:20.640 but we will be back the issue is though is that in order to be able to lead you need to have people

09:43:26.840 who are willing to follow and that's what i said don't do a woman that doesn't have potential and 1.00

09:43:31.520 that doesn't have some potential of willing to follow but so it's like men we we've like abandoned

09:43:36.820 the allowance to men's authority so basically women just they want to be 50 50 they want equal 0.97

09:43:44.080 authority then fuck those women now can i like can we like make it maybe oscillating on the 19th like 1.00

09:43:52.200 you can opt out because if you opt out that means you don't have to pay taxes no more most women 1.00

09:43:57.620 didn't want the right to vote because that had to come with bucket duty i'll opt out and all these

09:44:03.840 different things i want the right to vote well i'll tell i'll say two things on on the the voting

09:44:07.440 thing most women do i don't want to pay tax that would be a great thing you don't have to vote to 1.00

09:44:12.260 have the right to do something i don't want other women to vote so two two things here two things 0.99

09:44:17.340 i don't want a lot of other men to vote either so are you pro literacy tests for voting um i am

09:44:25.600 pro land ownership you should actually have some kind of stake in the government you should have

09:44:30.380 some kind of actual reason to be voting if you're just living off of my wealth off of my tax dollars

09:44:36.220 and you're not doing anything in this country so right now you don't why do you have why do you

09:44:41.680 have a say i think it should be for taxpayers like people that are actually paying the property

09:44:47.500 yeah why do you why do you because if you don't pay your property taxes then the government takes

09:44:51.800 florida actually just voted against that yes but but well it's about to pass it still needs to go

09:44:57.940 yeah even if something is taxed doesn't mean you don't own it well but i sort of in my definition

09:45:03.580 i don't think i don't think you should have the right to vote i think voting is a privilege and i

09:45:09.520 don't think most people should well here look i'm not going to go quite as far extreme as you

09:45:13.840 and i'll give you two reasons uh well one i think optically it's like

09:45:18.760 really bad and then two uh it's just not politically tenable why like so what do you mean why

09:45:27.960 why does it look bad well and we won't be able to uh claw back i'm not saying we can't but i'm just

09:45:35.700 saying that's the ideal it's just politically untenable so it's just like and it's such an

09:45:39.300 optics l it's not even why is it an optics l it's a massive optics i think most of the people that i

09:45:45.620 know agree that voting should be repealed to some extent so arguably for example if only men voted

09:45:51.040 you just only have concern i'm not even saying men i'm not you'd only have conservative uh leadership

09:45:56.000 in this country however optically even for conservative a lot of conservative women 1.00

09:46:02.020 massive optic optic cell and um yeah because they're fun cons i i agree with the midpoint

09:46:09.880 that one of you said here which is you shouldn't be able to vote if you don't pay taxes in any kind

09:46:15.960 of way because you know no taxation without representation therefore no representation

09:46:20.940 without taxation and i do think all taxation is theft really quick just to you got this

09:46:27.600 that's why i'm a libertarian i'll make you some i'll make it what is the poutine can you make

09:46:32.140 us coffee hey we got some pizza i'm gonna hook y'all up after the show trust me we want to go to bed

09:46:38.180 after the show i'm so hungry i'm gonna have her cook me a raw steak cook you a raw steak it's not

09:46:45.640 gonna be a raw steak anymore though well you'll present to me a raw steak with a chopped up steak with a

09:46:51.460 with seasoning no do you want to practice the bow really quick sure we should all practice we can

09:46:57.440 all practice yeah we all practice our bows okay can you rate our bows i i would brian i would bow

09:47:04.520 out of here unless we're done with the show oh man it's i would crit see i would crit i have to fix

09:47:12.060 the camera hold on it's okay no it's okay it's okay you didn't you didn't mean to uh here brb i got

09:47:16.600 to fix the camera really quick but um i want you to rate our bows though no the with the voting thing

09:47:22.280 i mean so look uh here's my contention though women have had the secured the right to vote with 1.00

09:47:29.700 any corresponding responsibility in order for men to be able to vote they have to be subject to 0.96

09:47:34.080 military potential subject excuse me subject to potential military conscription uh i believe

09:47:40.560 as an egalitarian that we ought to equalize this requirement by taking out the draft no keep the

09:47:47.800 draft because governments are not going to relinquish their ability to call upon its citizenry

09:47:51.800 i think that's wrong well i don't think it it it is a it is a perhaps a sad reality of the world but

09:47:59.800 governments are not going to relinquish their ability to call upon its citizenry in the event of

09:48:04.100 some sort of there was a draft people would go like i don't think men would actually go to the

09:48:08.860 men would definitely do it i mean also it's not just you don't you're forced to do it like in

09:48:14.520 ukraine for example uh men definitely don't want to go the front lines of ukraine they were kidnapped

09:48:19.040 you have yes you have military police abducting men yep it's ridiculous however i believe then if it

09:48:25.940 if it is the case that we're never going to get rid of the draft because we aren't and currently as it

09:48:31.240 stands men are subject to military conscription women should also be subject to military conscription

09:48:37.440 and thus in that way women can retain the right to vote however if we're not going to have a serious 1.00

09:48:43.460 conversation if the conservative position is no women should not be subject to military conscription

09:48:48.960 then my position would thus be if women won't be subject to military conscription 1.00

09:48:53.760 you repeal the 19th well women don't get the vote if they're not equal in that way no you said that 0.80

09:49:00.640 because they don't have any responsibility as a result of being able to vote and i think that

09:49:05.780 responsibility is you're paying your taxes so you can also pay taxes right so so we both have

09:49:11.480 responsibility right so okay then let's do okay you know what and it's quite literally in the

09:49:16.220 constitution you know no taxation without representation women pay taxes therefore 1.00

09:49:20.340 we're represented well actually in totality uh women are net tax uh what's the right frame women are 1.00

09:49:27.400 a net tax burden in totality are we really yep in total all women collectively are attack 1.00

09:49:33.100 is that because we're taking into consideration all the illegal immigration that then takes up

09:49:38.740 that would be the welfare system you're counting on those women as well all right which actually 1.00

09:49:43.540 would make sense i don't even think so i think no no it's about it would make sense even citizens

09:49:47.060 even citizens women are net negative when it comes to taxes well i would have to look up that 1.00

09:49:53.980 statistic so so women take more from uh taxes than they put in how would that how would that be the case 1.00

09:50:02.020 if they you know if they are having kids if they're working if they're in the workforce are we saying

09:50:09.200 you know women that are claiming welfare because they have kids that are on welfare therefore they're 0.96

09:50:15.400 the ones taking that welfare because the dad isn't in the picture so in this country right but we have a

09:50:22.000 lot of broken families can you just ask it in chat jpt yeah we have a lot of broken families right a net

09:50:28.020 tax men there's a lot of women that live as single mothers when those single mothers go 1.00

09:50:33.280 claim benefits for their kids then yes they would be a tax burden because they are claiming welfare

09:50:40.460 for their kids collectively but that is very disingenuous because they're doing that because the father

09:50:46.240 is not in the picture so i think that's a terrible way of saying that women are more irresponsible 1.00

09:50:51.800 well i didn't say that it's a bit besides the point though um my my position then is

09:50:57.560 sure women do pay taxes however they don't have the same responsibility that men do as it relates 0.99

09:51:03.900 to potential forced military conscription which i disagree with perhaps we can have women's voting 1.00

09:51:08.920 power what do you think about that can have women as a voting power no have like in half cut their 1.00

09:51:14.820 voting power no i i like it full yeah okay so again though there's an inequality that exists

09:51:21.140 between men and women when you should bring that up with your fellow man you know why is it that

09:51:25.960 you guys are sending each other to war that's such a feminist argument no it is not it's a it's a 1.00

09:51:30.580 that's not true reality right actually you know what they found they did the study and they looked

09:51:33.900 at monarchs they looked at uh female leaders throughout history women were actually much more likely to 1.00

09:51:39.280 uh well excuse me queens were much more likely to wage war than kings go figure did they conscribe

09:51:45.960 and they conscribed those people and their armies and if we knew more about their phases we would

09:51:50.920 have known why they were doing it yeah but in any case look i'm fine i i don't think we should

09:51:57.100 repeal women's right to vote nope what we need to do though in order for that to be to have that 1.00

09:52:04.720 continue to be the status quo women need to be subject to military conscription what do you think 1.00

09:52:09.980 about separating the military by gender as a whole and again i don't think that that argument helps

09:52:15.340 i don't think it's irrelevant if you're drafting women i don't think that if you're drafting women

09:52:19.120 yeah that argument doesn't help you seem scrappy you'd be fine in the military to our side i am

09:52:25.480 pretty good with i'm a pretty good shot i will say that probably can't fight shots yeah but my first

09:52:30.800 did you do you have it nathan the chat gpt look hey i could have been wrong on the stats but

09:52:35.360 and it depends how you asked it no it is not accurate to say that women in the united states

09:52:40.780 are categorically a net tax burden in the sense of paying less in taxes than they receive in

09:52:45.520 government benefits simply because they are women the reality is more nuanced and depends on how taxes 1.00

09:52:50.260 and government benefits are measured the specific program and differences in earnings employment and

09:52:55.500 life cycle outcomes between men and women um available data women often receive more uncertain

09:53:02.680 government benefits oh that's exactly the example i was giving for example unmarried women oh you just 0.99

09:53:08.620 passed it lower tax payments and higher benefits because because so i it seems like it's affirming

09:53:14.560 actually it seems like single fathers are the situation for that single fathers as in you know men that

09:53:21.080 don't want to be present could we change it to women without children in chat gpt i don't know i

09:53:25.600 don't even care that much to be honest but hey i'm willing to say i could i could have been wrong

09:53:30.320 about it i'm willing to say that but in any case yeah women got to be drafted i'm drafting if i'm 1.00

09:53:36.520 fucking president i'm drafting you just exclusively you you know what i'm sending you to afghanistan 0.98

09:53:42.020 to take on the taliban taliban taliban i would i would probably take on a commander role i'd be happy 1.00

09:53:47.780 taliban no we're you're you're gonna be uh a strategic minds in the fucking no no no i'll 0.99

09:53:53.860 you're gonna be you're gonna be clearing minds in kabul oh no no no you're gonna be clearing 0.99

09:53:57.940 minds in the deserts of fucking baghdad okay that's not our military thank you 0.99

09:54:03.420 wait uh wait there's something we had to get in 0.99

09:54:08.300 oh my gosh we're gonna do the oh i had to fix now i had to fix this but i guess you know what 0.58

09:54:14.980 fuck it i'm not even gonna fix it i think i'm gonna keep it centered 0.91

09:54:19.220 uh here uh nathan pull up twitch really quick this is our final thing and then we're 0.99

09:54:25.860 i got one final hot take

09:54:29.380 are you ready for it

09:54:33.160 wait hold on let me do twitch really okay uh guys final final please

09:54:38.560 a grift my final grift of the night drop us a follow on twitch drop us a prime sub

09:54:43.820 and uh show some support over there on twitch i'd very much appreciate it thank you guys very much

09:54:48.340 appreciate it thank you uh yeah hot take go ahead okay i'm gonna look right in the camera for this

09:54:52.640 one circumcision is genital mutilation and you should never do it to any baby 0.69

09:54:57.080 ever and if you do that's freaking weird 0.99

09:55:00.140 to any baby ever to guys that have like closed up like penis holes and they like don't even have a 0.99

09:55:07.360 hole there when does that happen i i see a lot of pieces and i've seen it a lot of times 0.99

09:55:12.280 what zip it yeah men need hugs too zip it 0.98

09:55:15.900 zip it on ya yo i'm trying to wrap are you guys you guys want to come back for the wave goodbye

09:55:21.960 wave goodbye four skins are there for a reason i know can we do a bow 0.95

09:55:26.020 let's do a bow goodbye a collective all right wait but you push the chairs back then oh i like

09:55:31.800 that oh wait no i remember i wanted to do a curtsy goodbye i think that's appropriate

09:55:36.000 we can bow out of here who's gonna bow okay well uh here go ahead how do we what's like the hand

09:55:43.340 so the the hand posture has to be submissive so it's kind of like a demure demure submissive

09:55:51.280 hand posture go ahead now that was like a collective battle oh we can do a wave oh my god 0.98

09:55:57.940 oh we're doing we're doing the wave yeah what the fuck wait no like like about everything 0.99

09:56:06.480 she's about to bang her head on the table the lower you go the more respect you gotta get your nose 1.00

09:56:15.340 down to the girl oh whoa get low get low get low okay sit really quick just to find it finish up 0.99

09:56:23.020 here sit back down here really quick guys uh because i was a dick tonight i want to give everybody 0.97

09:56:28.620 a compliment at the end i want to give everybody a compliment i feel like that's fair um because i

09:56:34.560 was a little sassy tonight okay all right uh let's see um you seem like a very sweet genuine person

09:56:43.680 oh boy this is gonna um nose ring thing um you were a good sport you were a good sport and uh

09:56:58.560 i'm sure you're a really good dominatrix she didn't say she wanted to slap me like the girls last time 1.00

09:57:06.980 that is true yeah so flowers for that so good i'm proud of you for that um big d thank you big d over

09:57:15.500 here um you've given me a lot of compliments though throughout this whole show at least ones that i

09:57:24.260 personally think is uh big d you um you are so good at just you're such a good you're habitual

09:57:38.420 button habitual line stepper oh uh charlie murphy the dave chapelle skit about uh rick james i'm rick

09:57:46.860 james bitch uh habitual line stepper that that's where it's from okay um is that a compliment i think 0.97

09:57:55.480 if you ever decide to become a politician i won't you will be you'll be you are so cut out for being 0.95

09:58:03.420 a politician i don't know if you want to take that as a compliment though i will take it as a compliment 0.99

09:58:08.840 even though i would but you just thank you just dodging fucking bullets and shit yeah you're good 0.99

09:58:14.560 you're good you're sharp all right uh you you are my favorite canadian 0.99

09:58:18.840 you

09:58:23.780 what i like most about you is how talkative you are

09:58:30.280 uh no you you you honestly you didn't talk too much i feel like i don't know um

09:58:36.440 you have nice skin

09:58:39.780 uh anya

09:58:43.220 you

09:58:45.960 are my favorite

09:58:48.000 caucasian

09:58:49.460 you

09:58:50.260 uh you're pretty cool

09:58:52.220 legendary wow wow that's a big one

09:58:56.240 uh you are my

09:58:58.340 um yeah i don't know

09:59:00.720 uh you

09:59:02.300 these are the worst compliments ever by the way

09:59:05.260 you

09:59:07.520 were a good sport

09:59:09.340 i'll give you that you're a good sport

09:59:11.400 we're both good sports

09:59:12.600 we get the same compliment

09:59:13.980 i love your accent

09:59:15.040 you've got a great accent

09:59:16.400 very very good accent

09:59:18.820 uh so

09:59:20.240 you have a nice beard

09:59:21.000 a really nice beard

09:59:22.460 it's okay it's all right

09:59:23.540 there's a few patchy spots but i appreciate it

09:59:25.680 all right uh anyways 0.91

09:59:27.500 uh well forgive me for my trespasses for being a dickhead tonight

09:59:31.240 i uh it was it was a it was a rough show for me so um

09:59:35.700 you know sometimes i get i call it tilted

09:59:38.600 tilted is a video game term

09:59:40.780 back when there used to be pinball machines

09:59:43.400 objection irrelevant

09:59:45.220 hey

09:59:45.680 uh if you're playing a pinball machine and you're angry

09:59:51.760 you would like tilt literally tilt the pinball machine

09:59:55.700 like shaking a vending machine

09:59:57.140 yeah so

09:59:57.980 uh i was on tilt tonight

10:00:00.260 i was tilted

10:00:00.900 uh it was tough just because it was

10:00:03.420 you know

10:00:04.220 anyways whatever i already talked about

10:00:06.240 but anyways

10:00:06.720 uh thank you guys

10:00:08.460 you guys were fun

10:00:09.240 it was dope

10:00:09.960 uh viewer

10:00:11.040 viewership was fantastic

10:00:12.440 um

10:00:13.540 is there

10:00:14.400 i feel like we're missing something

10:00:15.620 i don't know

10:00:17.500 i just want to say this

10:00:19.400 men

10:00:24.100 should not

10:00:25.640 sleep with a woman 1.00

10:00:28.040 unless he has

10:00:28.880 a genuine

10:00:29.640 intention

10:00:30.520 of pursuing her

10:00:32.620 for a long-term relationship

10:00:33.640 women 1.00

10:00:34.500 both men and women

10:00:36.120 dilly dilly

10:00:37.220 prom

10:00:37.800 promiscuity

10:00:38.680 promiscuity

10:00:40.300 uh

10:00:41.260 bad

10:00:41.800 in both men and women

10:00:43.260 um

10:00:44.760 men should not lie about their intentions

10:00:46.980 anyways

10:00:47.340 that's fine

10:00:48.060 oh my god

10:00:49.160 i'm like drunk

10:00:49.860 but i'm

10:00:50.340 all right 1.00

10:00:50.760 let's all fuck 1.00

10:00:51.440 okay 1.00

10:00:55.680 uh

10:00:56.240 wait hang tight

10:00:57.200 i'm

10:00:57.380 i'm rapping here

10:00:58.120 uh so

10:00:58.960 oh and uh

10:01:00.140 nathan don't go intro

10:01:01.640 until i say okay

10:01:02.440 uh so i'm gonna say gg 1.00

10:01:04.600 oh fuck wait 1.00

10:01:05.960 gg 1.00

10:01:06.440 well played

10:01:07.340 last call

10:01:08.880 hit the like button please

10:01:10.000 on your way out

10:01:10.740 also guys

10:01:11.480 please leave a nice comment

10:01:12.520 once the live ends

10:01:13.500 it takes about 30 seconds

10:01:15.220 after you know

10:01:15.780 we actually wrap

10:01:16.420 i read them

10:01:16.880 positivity is nice

10:01:17.800 helps the algorithm

10:01:18.560 uh

10:01:19.440 thank you for tuning in tonight

10:01:21.300 you guys could have been

10:01:21.980 anywhere in the world

10:01:22.660 but you're here with me

10:01:23.480 i appreciate that

10:01:24.440 uh thank you to the

10:01:26.020 to you guys

10:01:26.760 it was a long stream

10:01:27.700 oh man

10:01:29.060 i almost ended it

10:01:30.180 before 10 hours

10:01:31.000 okay well

10:01:31.480 uh

10:01:32.460 thank you to you guys

10:01:33.560 uh

10:01:34.860 i appreciate you guys

10:01:35.880 you guys were dope

10:01:36.680 thank you

10:01:37.320 uh

10:01:38.200 aside from like

10:01:39.000 the near aneurysm

10:01:40.060 that i experienced

10:01:40.960 multiple times

10:01:41.580 during the stream

10:01:42.060 uh

10:01:42.780 thank you to everyone

10:01:43.900 who super chats

10:01:44.660 donates and supports

10:01:45.520 the show

10:01:45.840 we couldn't do it

10:01:46.400 without you guys

10:01:47.020 we will be live again

10:01:49.100 sunday 5 p.m pacific

10:01:51.880 i hope you guys

10:01:53.300 enjoyed this string

10:01:54.040 of debates

10:01:54.640 that we have

10:01:55.040 with andrew

10:01:55.560 and then

10:01:56.020 this dating talk

10:01:56.820 tonight

10:01:57.080 any girls 1.00

10:01:58.140 who want to be

10:01:58.540 on the show

10:01:59.160 dm at whatever

10:02:01.240 on instagram

10:02:01.660 if you can make it

10:02:02.200 to santa barbara

10:02:02.820 oh sevens

10:02:03.560 in the chat

10:02:04.340 good night guys

10:02:06.020 and we will

10:02:07.120 see you

10:02:08.300 next time

10:02:09.740 good night

10:02:10.800 good night

10:02:11.800 okay we're

10:02:12.860 we're wrapped

10:02:13.580 wow just really curious

10:02:14.780 did anybody

10:02:15.320 lie about their body count

10:02:16.580 just like

10:02:18.480 i mean i answered

10:02:19.860 i didn't really lie

10:02:21.040 what is it

10:02:21.760 i don't know

10:02:23.040 but i mean

10:02:23.700 you said okay

10:02:24.780 2030

10:02:25.100 do you want to reveal

10:02:25.820 it's definitely

10:02:26.820 you know

10:02:27.500 no

10:02:28.140 it's not something

10:02:29.300 you said

10:02:30.540 2030

10:02:31.100 for me

10:02:32.360 and you never

10:02:33.060 answered either

10:02:33.860 but

10:02:34.160 oh

10:02:35.180 i had

10:02:36.520 maybe we can

10:02:40.020 we can

10:02:40.880 i might exchange

10:02:41.820 laughter this

10:02:42.520 wait

10:02:43.500 nathan

10:02:45.100 what the

10:02:45.480 nathan 1.00

10:02:45.780 what the fuck 1.00

10:02:46.300 dude 1.00

10:02:46.600 holy shit 0.99

10:02:48.160 nathan 1.00

10:02:48.500 we're fucking 0.99

10:02:48.940 still 0.99

10:02:49.160 oh my god

10:02:51.140 oh my god

10:02:52.760 that's crazy

10:02:53.560 okay

10:02:53.840 okay

10:02:54.200 good night guys

10:02:55.560 good night

Whatever Podcast - February 24, 2026

Andrew Wilson vs. 10 Feminists DEBATE! 3 RAGE QUITS？! SUPER FERAL CHAOS PANEL？! ｜ Dating Talk 283

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