00:26:53.380Are you just letting him like fuck basically?
00:26:56.680I just like, I'm at a point where when I'm in a relationship, like I basically train myself
00:27:02.520to only be able to be attracted or interested in one person.
00:27:06.280Um, but if he's not, if you're not sure that he's loyal to you and you're like in this ambiguous, unknown space of, I would like him, but I don't know if he likes me.
01:07:32.540We're deviating from the subject where I'm just pointing out that it's hypocritical to say that you don't believe women and men should have prenups when you know that you wouldn't advise your daughter to get into a marriage without a prenup with a man.
01:07:57.060So saying that you don't want a prenup is the equivalent of saying that you don't believe that you'll amount to anything in life that will be worth something that somebody else wants to...
01:12:29.060But we still have a lot more than, what, 5% of prenups?
01:12:32.660Like 5% of people that get married to prenups?
01:12:33.940They usually correlates with the wealthy.
01:12:35.860Yes, but no, we have a lot more prenups than we have people that qualify as wealthy, according to you.
01:12:41.160Yeah, what you would need to show us, though, isn't that there's no poor people who get prenups, because that was never the statement.
01:12:45.840What you'd need to show us was whether or not it's the case that the correlate here isn't that wealthy people get divorced less, because they're wealthy, or it's the case that it's because they have a prenup they're getting divorced less.
01:39:33.780If you're going to up-level your commitment, why do you want a prenup again?
01:39:38.360Because if I'm going to be making that commitment, I want a prenup for protection.
01:39:42.760And what that prenup resembles, it's a reflection on those difficult conversations that you can have and that relationship that you have with your partner and yourself.
01:42:10.260As somebody that kind of has your position on this, on prenups, the only argument that I've heard, the strongest one, is like, okay, well, why do you get car insurance and then you still drive?
01:42:21.160Why do you get health insurance and you still go outside?
01:42:24.180My position is not, don't get a prenup.
01:42:30.140The position is simply, what in the fuck is the point of the marriage if the idea here is we need prenups to protect assets, that's what our primary goal is, what the fuck do you even want to get married for then?
01:42:49.220No, I'm talking about second marriage.
01:42:51.720When you have a second marriage with a new person and they are actively fighting to get custody for their children is a reason, and it happens way or more often than you think.
01:43:03.980Some states, some chancery courts require, if you're going to have custody with a new person in the home living with a child and you want to show stability and you want to prove to the court that you are a stable parent, you have to legally get married to benefit that.
01:43:22.720Because I agree with you and I agree with you because I was with you even as a religious person because what is the point?
01:43:30.360However, when you're put in positions with an outside parent with children, it gets convoluted and the court wants these...
01:43:41.700I'm sorry, I have to move this on off of the prenup stuff.
01:43:51.660You write a disagreement that you have with the show is that sex workers...
01:43:56.320Or your disagreement is that about sex workers not deserving chivalry.
01:44:01.960So you believe sex workers do deserve chivalry.
01:44:04.780However, I've said on the show, I don't believe that sex workers or beyond just sex workers, even if a woman's not a sex worker, but if she's not a lady, so to speak, if she's not trad, she doesn't deserve chivalry.
01:47:06.220Can we clarify definitions as to what you think chivalry is versus respect is when talking about how you treat a person with respect versus chivalry?
01:47:23.900You never hear either men saying, I'd like a woman who's chivalrous.
01:47:27.040You never hear women say, I'm chivalrous.
01:47:30.020So chivalry would be typically the more gendered expectations of men.
01:47:34.760And those would typically be observing the sidewalk rule where the man walks closer to the road, paying for first dates.
01:47:41.920You could even extend that to being uniquely the provider in the relationship, uniquely paying for things in the relationship, protector, being the protector, opening the car door, these sorts of things.
01:47:54.320I would consider that chivalry, whereas respect would be we would all agree that, for example, if we go on a date with somebody, we shouldn't insult them, and that would be symmetrical.
01:48:48.320She could be dating multiple men at once.
01:48:50.380She could be polyamorous, but not a sex worker.
01:48:52.800She could be sleeping with multiple men at the same time.
01:48:55.100I think if we're going to have an expectation that men are gentlemen, the woman should not show up on the date with another man's seed inside of her.
01:49:02.080Like, I'm not going to pay – I don't think a man should pay for a woman on the date, be the gentleman, when there's literally another man's seed oozing out of her.
01:49:18.120So sex workers, by virtue of them being involved in sex work, are not ladies.
01:49:23.800But, again, it extends beyond just sex work.
01:49:26.140A woman could just not be deserving of chivalry.
01:49:29.860So my position is simply if you're a sex worker – look, by the way, just to be clear, I acknowledge that sex workers are even nontraditional women.
01:49:38.960They can still receive the – they still receive the treatment.
01:49:44.080Like, for example, men paying for first dates, doing all that gentlemanly kind of stuff.
01:49:59.560Women aren't holding up their end of the deal.
01:50:02.660Now, of course, men do – there's a term in video games called meta, most effective tactics available.
01:50:09.200And reality is whether the woman is the most traditional woman in the world or the biggest whore in the world, the most effective tactics available for men in terms of getting said woman, regardless of who she is, is actually chivalrous.
01:50:22.420So even feminist women, even sex workers, even non-ladies, it is still most effective to be trad as a man in terms of paying for dates, opening the car door, doing all these chivalrous behaviors, etc., etc.
01:51:30.380But, like, the ultimate manifestation of a lady might be she has, like, traditional value set, she's virgin, she's not promiscuous, she's modest, et cetera, et cetera.
01:51:41.900And what would not be a lady is a woman who's a stripper, is a woman who does romance scams on men, is a woman who posts nude content online, is a woman who fucks men on camera, is a woman who sells her pussy, is a woman who is a prostitute, is a woman who posts her butthole and other – whatever – on the internet.
01:52:28.980So if we wanted to say what is a lady, we would say one who typifies feminine virtue, and what is a gentleman would be one who typifies male virtue.
01:52:56.400So the idea is, like, if somebody's not being very gentlemanly towards you, chances are pretty good you're not being very ladylike towards them.
01:53:04.260Or they don't see you as being ladylike and therefore not worthy of gentlemanness.
01:53:19.340So if we're talking, for instance, in traditional American society coming over from what was going on in Western Europe, chivalry was like an old medieval concept, right?
01:53:30.760And the idea was like, oh, my lady, I'll give you this kerchief, you know, and win this duel for you so I can win your hand.
01:53:37.740They're trying to exemplify male virtues.
01:53:40.660That way they can – and this was all romance shit.
01:53:43.500And there's a whole story behind it, but it doesn't matter.
01:53:45.060The idea here is, like, you're not going to see women put their jacket on the ground so that a man can walk through the puddle without getting his feet wet, right?
01:54:25.040This is a great question, and the answer to this is actually simple.
01:54:28.400So people's personality traits are often typified in their presentation, right?
01:54:33.120So while it's correct, you could have, like, a pretty lady situation where you have a prostitute who's dressed in a flower dress and you don't know anything about her.
01:54:41.980You could assume that, you know, she's a lady or she's worthy of gentlemanliness or this or that.
01:54:50.080The other hand, if they show up wearing fishnet stockings and a low-cut dress, you may instantly make the assumption, ah, probably not very ladylike, not going to be very gentlemanly towards them, right?
01:54:59.400So it seems like virtues tend to present themselves in behavior and in aesthetics.
01:55:04.720And second thing, just – sorry, I just got so distracted.
01:55:19.360Okay, so is it plausible or possible that you could go on a date with a guy and earlier on in the day you were being fucked by another man?
01:56:13.420It definitely is true, and I respect other content creators and, like, what they do with their bodies, but that's just not how I roll pretty much.
01:56:22.600Right, but so – and that's only one example I'm giving, but for example, I mean, would you agree with me that – do you think – let's say a sex worker goes on a date with a man, and then earlier in that day – let's say she's a porn star.
01:56:37.280She had a gang ping with, like, 10 dudes, and she goes on a date with, like, this civilian guy who's, like, a bus driver and not a sex worker.
01:56:48.440Do you think that that bus driver guy should pay for her?
01:56:54.500It's the Family and Friends event at Shoppers Drug Mart.
01:56:57.740Get 20% off almost all regular-priced merchandise.
01:57:11.860I think he definitely should understand exactly what he's doing by dating a sex worker, like, by, like, opening up to, like, that possibility pretty much.
01:57:21.840Well, he should – look, if you're a man who's inclined –
01:57:32.800If you're a man who's inclined to date a sex worker and she's disclosed what the deal is, I mean, you can't really complain about the situation.
01:57:44.900However, again, if we're doing a bird's-eye view looking down at the chessboard, do you genuinely –
01:57:52.260Okay, so if there's an expectation on men to be trad, it would occur to me that there should be some expectation on women to also be trad in some way.
01:58:01.640So it's like if you just got stuffed by ten dudes earlier in the day, yeah, you don't deserve a man to pay for your dinner.
01:58:09.540If that's what he wants to do with his money, then that's what he is allowed to do with his money.
01:58:16.400I understand that these men, even though women are the least deserving of chivalry than at any other point in human history, I understand there's plenty of men.
01:58:36.800Right now in this table, we have gathered less than 0.1% of the population.
01:58:42.600You know, it's women that are sex workers, and again, I'm not going after you ladies, but they're 0.1% of the population, yet men are the primary consumption of pornography and the work that they do.
01:58:56.220In fact, the majority of men are the ones that consume what it is that they do.
01:59:09.980But I don't see how that, you pointing, that's a great red herring.
01:59:14.000I don't see how that would relate, though, to my point.
01:59:16.200Well, because women that have done sex work have always existed throughout history, and they have always been a small percentage of the population, just like we are doing so right now, Brian.
01:59:27.860Well, there's a couple other things here.
01:59:29.400So if you recall, my argument wasn't exclusively related to sex workers.
01:59:34.340It was also with, like, population-wide promiscuity.
01:59:37.280Do you think women are more promiscuous now in 2026 than they were in the 1940s?
01:59:51.240Okay, so if it's the case that people were having lots and lots, as much unprotected sex then as they are now, right?
01:59:58.740And it's the case that abortion is universally outlawed, which it was, then how come we saw the rate of single motherhood so much less than we do now?
02:00:11.360Well, because, unfortunately, and this is another reason why I'm here, the government has incentivized by many ways to divide the nuclear family.
02:00:25.860If it's the case that women were just as promiscuous then as now but did not have birth control, and we still saw way less single motherhood, wouldn't that stand to reason logically that they were way less promiscuous then than now?
02:12:01.060If I literally grabbed some woman next to me right now, threw her up on the table, and just started fucking railing her in front of all of you, how the fuck would that have anything to do with my question?
02:12:11.600How would it have a fucking thing to do with my question?
02:13:18.540It's like, what I'm asking specifically is if you would at least recommend to some people it would be good for you to have sex before you marry this person.
02:13:27.020I don't recommend any kind of sexual acts between other couples ever.
02:13:34.880So then the idea here is when you're talking about ideas like chastity and you're talking about ideas like virtues, those virtues are prescriptions of ought.
02:14:11.780Would you categorize the following as a woman who has sexual discipline?
02:14:15.440Prior to marriage, let's say a lot of women get married in their late 20s, let's say a woman had one monogamous boyfriend per year up until the age of marriage, starting, say, at 17.
02:14:32.960So let's say she's had sex with 14 men, but they were all within the confines of a long-term relationship, monogamous relationship, each lasting one year.
02:14:44.780To me, I think that that is poor initial vetting of the people that they're with.
02:14:51.480But I mean, I don't understand, but that would be sexual discipline, would it not?
02:14:56.380I think that the poor sexual discipline stems from the main problem, which is poor assessing of people's character and who it is that they pick to be in a relationship with.
02:15:10.340But to come back to the original point that you made with Ivy is that if a woman who just got gangbanged by 10 guys, who has semen all up in her, you know, no condom, whatever, goes on a date with a man, right?
02:15:25.800And then she said, oh, but that's his choice to go on the date with her.
02:16:03.400Why should men be chivalrous for women who are, I mean, look, I think widely people would perceive this, but I'll just say from my own perspective, non-deserving.
02:16:22.240Well, I think if a guy knows what he's signing up for, for the girl that is like a sex worker or whatnot in the industry, I think that it's kind of his choice to be chivalrous.
02:16:43.280But women, but their position, her position is that despite me not holding up any of my own tradition, like any sort of traditional thing, I still want the man to uphold his because it benefits me.
02:16:58.080I don't think it's right for the expectation to be there, but I think if the guy is knowing what he's signing up for with the girl that he's choosing to take on a date, that he's kind of signing up to hold that, to be chivalrous.
02:17:14.720I'd like to add that I think that women in general, just by virtue of being a feminine woman, should receive chivalry from men, regardless of her job.
02:17:26.520Not just because she has a vagina, but like the way that we carry ourselves, our natural attributes, what we bring to the table in a relationship with a man.
02:17:37.020So a woman, he brings strength, right?
02:17:39.540Do all women, but do all women reach that threshold?
02:18:22.760So, to 99% of men, the thought of, I understand that there are some cucks out there, for 99% of men, the thought of the girl he's going on a date with, or the girl he's going to be in a relationship with, or the girl he's going to be intimate with, the thought that she's being sexually active with another man, yeah, that is disrespectful and disgusting to that man.
02:18:44.120I think it's important to be, like, transparent about your sex life, to provide people that choice.
02:18:49.100That way you're not violating their bodies.
02:18:50.600So, like, I think it is important to say, yeah, I, like, as much as they don't want to hear it, you open up that opportunity for them to say, yes, I want to move forward with this.
02:18:59.700Would you, if a guy wanted to go 50-50 on the date, would you be okay with that?
02:19:04.480I have been in the past, but I just feel like, you know, I have different standards now.
02:19:10.260And as much as people think that I have lower standards just because of what I do, I don't.
02:19:14.580Like, it doesn't matter what they say, because I know that I don't.
02:19:17.720I think that a lot of sex workers actually have higher standards for dating because of the treatment that we get from society or social media.
02:19:26.380Yeah, but you don't deserve it is what I'm trying to get at here.
02:19:34.920So, women who are sex workers, women who are not ladies, women who are promiscuous, women who are not feminine, whatever it is, everybody is deserving of respect.
02:19:43.600I'm not saying that sex workers or promiscuous women or women who are poly or whatever it is, I'm not saying that you should walk up to her and smack her in the face and call her a bitch.
02:20:29.420It's you because even as the conservative woman here, you're not actually willing to step up and be like, you know what, men need to be better, but you're actually, you're actually.
02:27:58.720Men have women to impress other men very often.
02:28:02.020And so if you have a woman that is next to you, that is intelligent, that can have a conversation and a debate, then it raises your value as a man.
02:35:42.700And then, even if you work out and do all the bounce back stuff, they won't come back together unless you have surgery.
02:35:48.520But does that, do most of these women need to have surgery?
02:35:52.060Well, for a man like you, if they looked the way they looked like after childbirth without any kind of help being put back together, I don't think you would be attracted to them.
02:35:59.400Do they need to have surgery to get put back together or not?
02:36:08.420And not only that, yes, it's a choice.
02:36:10.040And by the way, while it's the case, and I already gave you the counter to this, while it's the case that I would even grant that childbirth can be destructive on women's bodies, especially when they get older.
02:36:21.100Which is why you should get married younger, but men destroy their bodies at work, toiling also, so who cares?
02:36:29.260Do you think Brian is destroying his body on a laptop right now?
02:36:31.300Do I think that you're going to get post-80?
02:36:35.300I'm just saying men should have an option to work.
02:39:47.040Correct, and so since I answered your question, why don't you answer mine, which is what do you want to get out of women in exchange for you being a gentleman, right?
02:39:58.200Yeah, so you're talking about a preference now in generality societally wide, right?
02:40:02.660What is it that you want out of women?
02:40:04.420Yeah, so I would add, are you asking me as an individual or are you asking me what I would prescribe societally wise?
02:40:10.720No, you as an individual, what do you want and expect out of a woman for you being a chivalent?
02:40:15.460Yeah, well, my personal preferences for women would have nothing to do at all with the argument, but I would give you, yeah, I'll give you the gen, I'll give you what I would generally would prescribe.
02:40:24.700I think it would be a much wiser idea prescriptively from the government top down to begin running any type of propaganda possible for women.
02:40:37.100For women to move into marriages younger rather than older, and the reason why that's a good thing is because it negates a lot of that damage to the body, it negates a lot of these fucking problems where women are, now we're under the threshold for having our own kids.
02:40:51.000You're a conservative, you don't like mass migration, women got to have more kids.
02:40:54.800Otherwise, yeah, they're going to have to have more kids.
02:40:57.360What do you want out of a woman in exchange for you being a gentleman?
02:41:25.500If you're a best guy friend, what would you tell them that, hey, you should want your woman to give you this in exchange for you being a gentleman and giving them that?
02:41:36.820What is it that you want out of a woman?
02:41:39.180Oh, well, then you would want deep religious convictions, submissiveness, and virtues.
04:25:53.840Well, the thing is, it's interesting, is like, when we're talking about this dynamic, we're not talking about the action itself of doing this.
04:26:02.920We're talking about whether or not this woman is informed enough as an adult to make the decision in the first place to do this.
04:26:09.760And my argument is, if she's not experienced enough to do this, right, or if she is experienced enough to do this, then she should be experienced enough to date whoever the fuck she wants.
04:26:40.480Yeah, the reason people have always, older men have always dated younger women, and to this day is still true, is that, like, statistically, 36 is the right age for a man to start getting married.
04:26:52.100Because they're starting to make more money, like, more money than they've made before, and they're also, like, consistent and have the experience and are smart and strong, and that's, like, their peak to start making.
04:27:05.760But, yes, they worked really hard to be 36 and have all this stuff, and now they want what they want.
04:27:10.840And they're able to take care of a woman who can be young and be fertile and have these children for them because they've worked really hard to get these things.
04:27:20.120And as a woman, I'm impressed by a man that has both those things, money and experience.
04:27:26.120And then I also think, like, if a man is, if you're consenting, what about guys with vasectomies?
04:27:47.540Oh, okay, I get that, but I'm just saying for traditionally what people want and why they're doing what they're doing to get that money, I think now what I'm trying to bring it back to women is women who don't have education and don't have resources to go and educate themselves.
04:28:03.620The majority of the world is mostly poor, okay, and uneducated.
04:28:08.100Do you think they don't deserve to have a nice life with a man that takes care of them so that they don't have to double down and work hard or expose themselves to other dangers?
04:33:02.480You're still putting these two lives together.
04:33:05.000And for the woman who's actually against the age gap relationships for you, what would you prefer to see for an 18-year-old woman?
04:33:12.760For her to, in her sexual empowerment, to be a sex worker and the men who are procuring her services, say they are in their 30s or 40s or 50s, or for her to be in a loving, monogamous relationship with a man who's 10 or 15 years older than her?
04:33:32.060Which of the two would you prefer to see?
04:33:37.940I think that the sex worker would be in a less predatory situation, but I don't necessarily believe that all 18-year-olds should be sex workers.
04:33:48.220Well, I know, but that question is kind of unfair to my ideology and what I believe.
04:33:53.000Okay, well, let me rephrase it a different way.
04:33:56.200Let's say that you had a best friend that you grew up with, and she hits 18, and she's told you her whole life all she wants to do is be a stay-at-home mom.
04:34:16.320And she's like, she's coming to you for advice, and she sits down with you, and she's like, look, I've looked around, and all the guys who are around my same age, they're all fucking fuckboys.
04:34:26.340They're just out there having sex with everyone.
04:34:29.320They don't want to settle down, right?
04:35:34.360But, again, back to my, like, the original reason I am against age gap relationships isn't necessarily in the power, laying the choice and the power of the younger person.
04:35:45.960I believe it's the responsibility of the older person to not date somebody inappropriately younger than I am.
04:35:53.840So, if you're giving her the advice to date him, right, then you're basically ceding to the fact that the reason she wants to is because he's more powerful, more wise, has more money, is more established, is all of those things that she's looking for in order to have a family at that young of an age.
04:36:10.760So, if you're advising her to do that, you're ceding that she needs to be in a dynamic where the more powerful guy has all the leverage in order to achieve what she wants.
05:30:31.560If you feel like to continue a relationship with a person, you need to have this person come over and do free labor on the first time that they visit you.
05:30:40.260But you do realize that this would actually be an entailment of your own position.
05:30:47.480So if the position is men should pay on first dates, that requires them to labor, to have the resources to pay for the first date.
05:30:55.140Ergo, you're, oh my God, this is so ridiculous.
05:30:58.820No, it's actually the reason for it is if I'm looking for a husband and I want to have kids with them.
05:34:04.220But if I said, you know, yeah, it does rise in the east.
05:34:09.120And that's true, but it only rises, you know, this, I contended with the argument somehow and then ended it with, and you're also a stupid bitch.
05:34:28.480So, I was saying, you said you wouldn't even go out on a date with a man if he didn't say he was okay for the first date, which is totally fine.
05:35:20.140So, just because it's not your framework, just because it's not the way you move, doesn't mean that other women can't move like this in an effective, and it wouldn't be less or more effective necessarily.
05:35:31.440I think, well, that could be your opinion.
05:35:34.860I think that that's, I differ in that.
05:35:37.540For example, she said that she would be okay with going to your place and cleaning your house the first time she comes over.
07:11:46.240I come here to say exactly what I believe in, which is I think that, you know, I believe in traditional relationships and marriage.
07:11:54.580I think that women, and nowadays we have a different role for women, and I think you can have a career and also be traditional.
07:12:02.400That's all that I've, I mean, if people are watching now, they can run it back and see.
07:12:06.680Nothing is extremist or out of the ordinary, and I think that just has not been very well received.
07:12:13.940But, again, this is that kind of a podcast, and you believe traditional has to be trad wife, and anybody outside of that is, you know, not traditional, not conservative.
07:12:26.220And I'm just here because I want to mend relationships between men and women.
07:12:31.420In fact, I want to give men tips on how to land a woman and get married and that kind of stuff.
07:12:37.820I've had really good success with advising people on it, and I guess men are watching this show this late at night because they want to know what women think, right?
07:12:49.520How women think so that they can get into a relationship with them.
08:12:44.840Look, you and me, we suffer from the same problem as, uh, and I'm, this isn't directed as an insult.
08:12:49.760I think you have, like, your base face is, uh, has some strike, uh, I shouldn't say, that has, uh, some positive aesthetic components to it.
08:13:00.620But you and me, we're both, you know, we got it, we're a little chubby, you know.
08:13:04.360So I think when you're chubby, again, not saying that as an attack, but that's going to have an impact on your facial aesthetics, your facial attractiveness, uh, facial puffiness.
08:13:12.940And it is going to have an impact on facial ratings.
08:13:17.140So I, I think I'd say, uh, uh, 4.25, I want to say.
08:13:54.900So like, for example, uh, she has more softer features, I would say, which is, uh, like a woman can be beautiful, but have like more sharp stripe, um, sharper angular features.
08:14:06.120But she has a more like, but, but that 10 tends to be a more like trait that is appreciated in men.
08:14:14.720So she has, she has strong, uh, feminine dimorphism, which means a bit more, um, softer features, I guess you could say, which is not a bad thing.