Andrew Wilson vs. SUPER Feminists! Misandrist？ She HATES Brian？! 300+ Body Count？ ｜ Dating Talk #183
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8 hours and 42 minutes
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189.54567
Hate Speech Sentences
636
Summary
On this week's episode of Whatever Dating Talk, we have a new guest on the show, and she's not only a woman, but she's also a feminist. We discuss what it means to be a feminist in the 21st century, and whether or not it's a good or bad thing.
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short. Really the pressing issue of our time. Let me ask. I've never asked this. Any women here ever
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been shamed by a guy for that in that department? Okay, whatever. Anyways, Andrew's on the board of
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directors. If you can't catch the full shows, we have a clips channel. Link for that's in the
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patron members only. Discord. Discord.gg slash whatever. Link is in the description. Also,
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big announcement. That was also bigly announced. Other side. Bigly announced. Hold on. You kind
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of premature. A little premature, Nick. It's okay. Big announcement. Big news. If you want to learn
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how to become a master debater, if you want to learn how... Jokes aside. If you want to learn how
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to think, debate, and craft arguments like the great Andrew Wilson. If you want to be able to debate
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like Andrew Wilson, you need to get his course, Verbal Combat. DebateUniversity.com. There's about
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six hours of instruction. 80 plus different educational videos. You can find it all. DebateUniversity.com.
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And Nick, can you just like scroll down a little bit? Make it a little bigger? Like make it bigger?
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The page? You should be able to... Mouse wheel. Zoom? Oh, okay. That's strange. In any case,
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click on the course outlines, Nick. Click on the other ones. Parts of debate.
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There you go. And there's what is a proposition? The perfect opening statement.
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Dominate the open discussion. And there's a whole bunch more guys. 80 plus different educational
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videos. We also offer a members-only group with monthly live Q&As with Andrew. DebateUniversity.com.
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Andrew, any words on the DebateUniversity.com, Verbal Combat?
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Yeah, so somewhere around seven and ten, people who reach out to me reach out because they need help
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with an argument, or they need help crafting an argument, or they want to learn how to argue
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better. So we got together. I got together with Brian about half a year ago. We started working
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on this project, and we finally got it complete. We hope to see all of you over there. It's a great
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course. We spent a long, long time on it. It's very high quality, and you'll actually get all of the
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bang for your buck. So we hope you guys really enjoy that course.
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Yeah, and these are videos too, guys. It's not like some 30-page ebook that's been slapped together in the
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course of, you know, two or three days. We spent quite a bit of time. Video courses, like I said,
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80 plus different videos, six hours of instruction. So DebateUniversity.com.
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We also brought in several experts to clarify all sorts of different argument structures. So any
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forms or weaknesses I have, those guys compensated for. So you have also philosophy experts who came on
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and gave breakdowns of these concepts. So it really is a great course. Highly recommend you
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pick a copy of it up. Is any of the Rachel stuff out yet, or is that the DLC? Rachel stuff is DLC.
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Guys, Andrew's wife, Rachel Wilson. There's a Rachel Wilson DLC coming soon. Okay. Disclaimer,
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the views expressed by the guests do not necessarily reflect the views of the whatever channel. With
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that said, without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves. So please tell us
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your name, age, location, and occupation. Go ahead. Hello. I'm Luna Baby. I am 30. I currently live
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in Vegas, grew up in LA, and my occupation, I do social media and porn. All right. How long have you
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been in the adult industry? On and off for 10 years. I took a good long break and then went back to it
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after 2021. How many scenes have you shot? Mainstream or for my personal business?
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Mainstream, I guess. Mainstream. Maybe we're up around eight or 10. Eight or 10? Yeah. I started
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mainstream last January. Got it. Okay. What about you? Hi, I'm Liza. I'm 28. I live in Isla Vista,
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but I just moved from Chicago. I'm a singer-songwriter, but I just am a front agent at a desk or at a desk,
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at an inn. Are you a solo artist or are you a solo artist? Yeah. What kind of music? It's like pop,
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indie pop, I would say. Are you a soprano? I guess more of a mezzo. Can we hear a little demo?
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I guess. What do you want to hear? You're single. My single? I don't have a single. Do you
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songwrite? Yeah. I'm a songwriter mainly. Okay. I don't know if I want to give that away right now.
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What you got for us? What you got for us? You don't have it. No, I can do it. I'll do a chorus.
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I'll do a chorus. Okay. We're ready. If you knew you would hate me the way that I learned to hate you,
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if you saw through the wall, you want to go down and burn it all. And I'm not a virgin-matic,
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I just think you've been avoiding the truth. What's a daughter to do?
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Okay. All right. There you go. What was the lyric there? Virgin-matic?
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What? If you knew you would hate me the way that I hate you, if you saw through the wall,
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you want to burn it all. I'm not over-dramatic. I just think you've been avoiding the truth.
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Over-dramatic. I heard virgin-matic. I'm trying to enunciate, but I'm nervous.
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So you're from, did you go to school here? No, I'm from, I was born in New York and then we moved
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to LA when I was a teenager. And then I went to a troubled teen school in Arizona. And then
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I moved back to California. And then I moved to Chicago when the pandemic hit.
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And you went to a dangerous mind school? Yes. What'd you do?
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You know, all the stuff they said not to talk about here. Just like a troubled childhood. I
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had a really rough time growing up and I was really depressed. And a lot of the things were just,
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I was reacting to my childhood. And so now that I, my frontal lobe is developing and I am there,
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like analyzing myself and seeing where I've gone wrong. Is it still developing?
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Yeah. I mean, I thought it finishes at 25. I know. That's what I mean. Like it's done,
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but now that I am putting it into practice and not just relying on emotion, trying to think more
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logical. Okay. Was it an all-girls school? Yeah. Was it Lake Lama Zuma? Yeah. Okay. I used to live
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down district. Really? Yeah. Yeah. That's fucking wild. Oh, sorry. I'm not supposed to say that.
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That's really wild. Sorry. Wait a question. By the way, are your glasses prescription?
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Yeah. I'm really blind. Okay. Gotcha. All right. What about you? I'm Alex Kane. I'm 22. I live in
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Las Vegas and I do adult film. All right. And you always lived in Vegas? No, I'm from Ohio. Oh,
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from Ohio. Yeah. Okay. So newly moved. No, I've been in Vegas for about two years and I was in Miami
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before Vegas. So yeah. All right. Cool. And did you, you said you do adult? Adult film. Yeah.
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Okay. What about you? Um, so I recently just quit my job two weeks ago in property management. Um,
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and I just got, uh, so, so name, age, sorry. It's okay. Sorry guys. I'm a little nervous. Um,
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I'm Delaney. I'm 27 and I am, uh, been in Santa Barbara the last 10 years. Um, originally from San Diego
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and I, I just recently quit my job, uh, cause I found it to be an extremely toxic work environment
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and I'm starting a new career in a week. So what, what were you doing? Um, I worked in student
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housing. Um, I can't, I'm not going to say the company specifically, but, uh, I was a property
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manager, um, for a couple of years and I am now going into the medical industry. So totally
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180. And you said it was a toxic work environment. It was because of the, uh, the, like the renters,
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the people you worked for, the people I worked for. I think that, um, major landlords, especially
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in Santa Barbara where there's a housing crisis, um, have a responsibility, you know, um, especially
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student landlords when students are, you know, low income and trying to get by. So seeing them
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constantly take advantage of people is what drove me out of it because I want to help people.
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Got it. Okay. What about you? All right. Hi everybody. I'm Taylor Ferber 33, the grandma
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on this. Although I don't know you, you got a little salt and pepper. Run for my money.
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Let's go. Although I don't have saggy tits, but I am the milf. I'll take the honorary milf
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role on this. You're getting the title for tonight. I guess so. Unless somebody has kids. Anybody
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have my, I don't even have kids, but Hey, you'll still take the title. I am formerly in LA. I'm in
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Nashville. Now I was a red carpet reporter. Playboy called me the celebrity whisperer. And I now host
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the podcast. Talk to me, Taylor. We love a shameless plug. So there you have it.
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All right. Cool. Cool. Um, hi everyone. My name's Brianna. I'm 21. I'm originally from
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Riverside, but now I'm here. One sec. Mike Oxmall donated $200. After destiny beat you in that
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debate, Andrew, I think I will take my money over to destiny's channel and learn to debate
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there. Kamala 2024. Let's fight for women's equality. America is ready for her.
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I just, I just want to point out that even if, even if, and he didn't destiny beat me
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in that debate, other men did fuck his wife. I just want to point that out. I don't, I
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don't, I don't want any confusion that other men fuck destiny's wife. All right. Just saying
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the cordial. I thought it was a cordial conversation, right? It was a very cordial conversation. I didn't
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even bring up the fact that other men fuck his wife or nothing. I didn't bring that up.
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Um, he's going to put you back on the blacklist, Andrew. He already did. That's why I don't care.
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Wait, he put you back on it again? Yeah, he put me back on it again.
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You got off the blacklist and it's like no blacklist, blacklist.
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Beat him in a debate, go right back on the blacklist. That's how it goes.
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Snip, snap, snip, snap. Rude. Okay. All right. Uh, so wait, that was interrupting your introduction.
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You said you're 21? Oh yeah, I'm 21. Originally from Riverside, California, but I'm a student
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here at UCSB. All right. What are you studying? I'm psych and brain sciences. Psych and brain
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sciences. Cool, cool. And you're going into your senior year? I am, yeah. Okay. All right. What
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about you? I'm Lala. I'm 30. I'm from Northern Arizona and I'm a property manager for off-grid
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glamor camping Airbnbs. Glamping? Yeah, glamoring. Nice. And I stream on an adult campsite and
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I also am a shameless executive producer of the No Agenda Show. Okay, cool, cool, cool. Welcome
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back. Welcome back. You were previously, uh, on a pretty interesting panel we had. Yep. Andrew,
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what about you? Uh, yeah. So my name is Andrew Wilson, the host of The Crucible, the fastest
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growing debate channel on YouTube, to my knowledge. Um, I am a political satirist, a political
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analyst, official beater of destiny in all debates, and, uh, occasionally I like to get
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into debates on whatever and talk to people. All right. Welcome everybody. So we're going
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Roastmaster Glocktavius donated $200. This panel is what happens when women drink during pregnancy.
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What the? Hey! Y'all look like the type of people to eat popcorn with a spoon. Q, what
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years were World War I slash World War II? Also name one Ally Power and one Axis Power. Okay.
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We haven't even gotten through our hellos yet. The AI is getting here. Well, we're going
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to get... We haven't got through LO. Interesting. We'll get into the, uh, so we'll, we'll do that
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really quick. Then we'll do the relationship stats. Glocktavius, that's a crazy name. Glocktavius,
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I thought it said cock is small, Tavius something. So in that case, like, I don't know,
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buddy. Anyways, um, so the question is, uh, what years were World War I and World War II and name
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for, I think he's for World War II, name one Allied Power, one Axis Power, starting with
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you. Go ahead. World War II was in 1940s, right? Yes. Yeah. I don't remember the exact year
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it started. Fair enough. If you want to do decades, what about World War I? Around the
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Great Depression, right? 1920s? Is that right? I'm not going to pretend to remember. Want
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to take a shot? No. It's okay. Oh, uh, name one Allied Power. I know. I'm trying. One Allied
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Power, one Axis Power, World War II. I guess, um, brain going blank. I'm sorry. It's all good.
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The Allied Power would be the one I can think of. I don't think I can name right now, so.
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You want to, oh, okay. What about you? We can just skip. No, come on, guys. You got to
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give it a shot. I'm just embarrassed because I don't know. Like, I wish I knew. Well, okay,
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I wish I knew. So, World War II. Yeah. One Allied Power, one Axis Power. So, country. Name
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a country. Okay. An ally is the United States one of them. And then Axis Power? And Axis
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would be Germany. All right. Year, World War, World War I, World War II. Year? A year? I don't
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know. I'll go with the 1940s. No, you gotta just. You just restate it. I'll give a specific
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year then. Yeah, go specific. Let's say 1943 for World War II. Okay. And then let's say
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World War I was, I don't know, 1918. Okay. All right. What about you? I believe World War
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I was early 30s because I thought the Depression was right at the end of the 20s. And then I think
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World War II was like, like you said, 43, like mid-40s. Yeah, yeah. I think the United States was
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actually an Axis Power, but I could be, I feel like an idiot. Honestly, it's kind of shameful. But
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yeah. And then I'd say an Allied Power was France an ally. Okay. All right. What about you? Okay. I feel
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like World War I was the 1910s. Okay. World War II, 1940s. Some of our allies, you know, UK, adversaries,
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countries, Japan, Italy, obviously Germany, like you said. What about you? I'm going to guess
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World War II, 1944, maybe. Okay. And then I said World War I, also 1920s. Powers, I would say
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France. That was my guess. Axis. Oh. Germany. Okay. All right. What about you? World War I,
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1910s, World War II, 1940s. Allied powers would be United States, France, Russia? Yeah. Because
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they were against, yeah, the Axis was Germany and the Russians, they were the ones that. Axis? Yeah,
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the Axis. Japan, Germany, and Italy. Okay. All right. There you go. What about the guys? What about the
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guys? Wait, Brian and Andrew, do you guys know? Or is this a vehicle to- World War I, 1914, 1918,
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World War II, 1939, 1945. And then, well, you guys already named some of these. Go ahead, Brian,
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let's go. Let's hear it. Are you Googling it, Brian? You said 1918. It's when it ended, yeah. I was
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close. Yeah, there you go. Who said 1930? It's like, hey, it's okay. It's all right. It's okay. It's all right.
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Yeah. World War I wasn't, you know, it was only the second biggest war. No big deal.
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No big deal. All right. We're going to get into relationship status. So what's your current
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relationship status? Single talking stage, situationship, friends with benefits, relationship,
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married, polycule, sex, cult, harem, whatever it may be. If you're single, how long have you been
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single? And what's the longest relationship you've ever been in? I'm currently single,
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been single for, I would say, two years. What was the last part of the question? I'm sorry.
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Longest relationship. Longest relationship. Three years. Three years. Okay. All right. And
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you said you've been single for two years. Have you had any like shorter term anything in those
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two year, in the two year period? Not really. A couple people, you know, the fellow people in the
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industry that I was friends with. It was fun for the time being. And then that was pretty much it.
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Do you date civilians? No. I feel like I don't want to have to make someone be okay with what I do.
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And I, you know, I know it's not for everybody. And personally,
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it just gets in the way of my career and my job. And I enjoy what I do. Do you find that
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as far as the preferences of the male porn stars, that do they have a preference to date other women
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in the industry? Or do they prefer to date like regular girls, I guess? I feel like some people
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start in the industry already in long-term relationships. People who enter the industry
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who then try to date normal people. I've, I've just, I've been told that, you know, it just doesn't
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work out because jealousy and stuff like that gets in the way, which is understandable with our work.
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Yep. And, um, most of the time they're just bouncing from each other. It's just this whole
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communal, I don't know if I can say the word, so. Okay. What about you? Um, I'm engaged to Delaney.
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Okay. And, um, I, the longest relationship I've had is three years. Three years. But we've known each
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other. We went to the school together. So we met when we were 15, 16. She was my first girlfriend when I
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was 15. Yeah. Oh, so you guys dated. In the troubled teen industry, we met. The troubled teen industry.
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But then we were best friends for a while. And then we just got together like this year.
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Finally. Okay. And so you guys are engaged. Yeah. Okay. And how long have you been together
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like recently? I moved from Chicago in May. May. In the beginning of May. But we were doing long
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distance. Since the beginning of the year. Yeah. All right. Okay. And have you only been in
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relationships with women? No. I've been in relationships with both. Same for you. Okay.
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Okay. What about you? I'm single. Uh, the longest relationship I was in was about a year and a half
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long. And what, I've been single for like three or four months, somewhere around there. Was it,
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uh, the one point, you said 1.5 year relationship? Yeah. Is that the one that ended? Yeah. That was the
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one that just ended. Yeah. Who broke up with who? Um, I broke up with him. So yeah. Was he also in
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the industry? No, he was a civilian. A civvy. A civvy. That's how I'll reference people usually
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ignore me. Why did you, uh, why did you end things? Uh, he cheated on me. So yeah. Huh? Wait, hold on.
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You, and when, and you do, uh, boy girl content. Yeah, I do. Yeah. And he cheated on you with?
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Someone that I didn't know about. That's where the cheating comes in. More lying, I guess. I mean,
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it's cheating and lying. Right. But to be clear, so you, while in a relationship, monogamous
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relationship with you, he was having sex with other women. It was like more like an emotional
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thing, which I kind of found worse was he was like talking to someone. Oh, one second.
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A kilo of cereal donated $200. My new favorite question for the panel. I haven't read it down.
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Embarrassing moment on a date. Brian, apologies for last episode. That screeching banshee was
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under my skin. Didn't mean to be demanding. Hey, great show. All good, man. Uh, I, by the way,
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I, I don't know if you caught the end of the show. I, we had forgotten to ask this precise
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question. I have it written down in my, uh, my notes here to actually ask it and have your name
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here. Uh, sorry that we kind of missed it there. Just a pretty hectic show, but, uh, you didn't
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have to do that. I was actually going to ask, ask that, but thanks for the TTS man. Appreciate
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it. Really good seeing the stream. Uh, so you said it was emotional cheating. Yeah. He was like
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talking to someone for like over a month and it was just like, I don't know. We were falling
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off at that point anyways. So like, I kind of understood, but it still was like saddening.
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So he didn't like have no, as far as I know, at least, I mean, who knows? Okay. He didn't
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have any issues with the fact that you were like sleeping with men for work. He kind of
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had issues at first, but like, I don't know. Then it just like went away, I guess. And he
00:23:33.300
just didn't care anymore. But question, did you meet him prior to starting work in
00:23:38.380
the industry? No. So I've been in the industry for about four years. He knew
00:23:42.480
going in. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. But then as the relationship developed, he started to
00:23:47.500
have an issue with it. Well, yeah. Like, as it developed in the beginning, he had an
00:23:51.920
issue and then it went away and it was like fine. And then we broke up basically.
00:23:56.600
Would there be like a waiting period? Like if you have a scene or like, would he want
00:24:00.720
to wait to like smash? No. He never like talked about that at least.
00:24:06.540
Like, but would you, would you give him like a heads up? Like a, I mean, he knew I would
00:24:10.480
be like, Hey, I'm going to a shoot today. What's that? I'd be like, Hey, I'm going to a shoot
00:24:14.560
today. What if it's like a shoot, but there's like no deed? Like it's just like a chick.
00:24:18.400
Did you guys, did you guys ever do the deed after you went to a shoot? I mean, not that
00:24:22.400
I can think of. I didn't write it down. I don't know. She was not keeping track, not
00:24:27.280
keeping track. Okay. All right. I'm curious what he took issue with. Like, is it
00:24:34.760
insecurity? Is it? And I'm wondering if you have dealt with a similar thing with, you
00:24:42.120
know, not every man definitely wants to see the person they love getting pounded on
00:24:48.840
TV. Other people don't care. Um, I feel like that's something that if you are seeking it,
00:24:57.100
like if you are in the industry and you want to go and get into a relationship with a civilian,
00:25:01.520
that is something that, you know, should be discussed and learn your boundaries for each
00:25:07.180
other. Like maybe it's no kissing, maybe don't call them this or that, whatever the boundary
00:25:14.120
may be. It's up to the two people to respect each other's boundaries. And if it's something
00:25:20.840
you can't do, then, you know, that obviously that relationship just isn't for you.
00:25:25.500
I just asked, I could be generalizing and I don't know, Brian, if you come across this on
00:25:29.020
the show often, but I don't know. I feel like a guy who is, I'm generalizing here again, but
00:25:35.220
a guy who's like secure enough in himself and in you and your choices and your power and what
00:25:40.380
you want to do, why would you have an issue with that on the guy's end? You know what
00:25:44.160
I mean? Like, I love what you said about, you know, communicating transparent and each
00:25:48.780
other's boundaries. Who did say, who said what? What does that mean?
00:25:54.100
Wait, so you're saying if the guy is secure, he won't have an issue with it.
00:25:59.060
Exactly. If, if it's the, if it's made in the woman's choice and her power and she's well
00:26:04.300
knowing and full knowing, like, Hey, this is what I do for a living. This is what I want
00:26:07.640
to do. Then it's like roll with or roll out. Like they should respect that.
00:26:12.020
What does, uh, what does insecurity mean from your perspective?
00:26:16.320
Well, if a guy, well, you guys are saying if they're watching you, you know, get smashed,
00:26:23.660
as you said, I assume that they would, that would make them feel insecure. Right.
00:26:34.960
Yeah. I don't think it necessarily means they're insecure. It could make people
00:26:38.240
uncomfortable, you know, like I guess what I'm getting at. And you guys are guys, let's
00:26:43.480
get to the root of why though. That's what I'm saying. Is it stigmatized because it's
00:26:47.300
like quote gross? It's like, what do you mean? Remove the air quotes on gross by the way,
00:26:53.340
Yeah. It's not a stigmatization. It's not a stigmatization. Um, from your, from your purview,
00:26:59.080
you believe evolution is true. Of course. Yeah. So if you believe evolution is true before we
00:27:04.480
had DNA testing, how would you determine whether or not a child was yours from a male's perspective?
00:27:10.700
Hang on. I'm talking about in a controlled porn sex work environment.
00:27:14.680
Hang on. Don't obfuscate. Don't obfuscate. Let's stay. Hang on. Let's stick with this.
00:27:18.860
Let's stick with this. Okay. Let's go. Let's go evolution.
00:27:22.800
How would a man determine paternity before there was DNA testing? How, how could he do that?
00:27:34.200
I feel like we had it persecuted. Um, before DNA testing?
00:27:39.280
Yeah. Why do you, how do you think a man would be able to best determine whether a child was his
00:27:46.040
Yeah. So, well, so, so if they were in a relationship where the woman was only sleeping
00:27:50.940
with him and that could be determined she was only sleeping with him, that would assure paternity,
00:27:55.840
right? Sure. But if we're talking, okay, so if we're talking evolution, you know, knowing
00:28:02.080
about evolution, that going way back, right? Men biologically, even now to this day, why
00:28:08.400
men are so visual, so physical, have that impulse to survive, spread their seed, basically bone
00:28:14.660
everybody, right? Where women tend to be the nurturers, but wait, hang on a sec. Women tend
00:28:19.560
to be the nurturers, right? There's a different role that now we're trying to navigate that,
00:28:23.880
like those Neanderthal tendencies in a, in a, you know, modern world.
00:28:30.760
But by that logic, women, it could go the other way, right?
00:28:36.120
No. So let's, let us assume for a moment that you're correct and that every, that every man
00:28:42.380
on planet earth wants to hump as many women as they possibly can. Let's just assume it
00:28:46.220
for the sake of argument that they do. Okay. That still would have nothing to do with wanting
00:28:51.200
the women that they're sleeping with to sleep with other men. And the reason for this is
00:28:55.340
because of the assurance of paternity. Women can take the DNA from multiple men, but there's
00:29:00.640
no assuredness that that then is going to be your child. That's the problem. And so the
00:29:05.740
reason it's ingrained in men to find it revolting when their significant other is sleeping with
00:29:10.260
another person besides them at any point, at least this is most men, is because that's
00:29:15.300
ingrained in us because of that paternal issue.
00:29:17.200
But you're missing my point. You said it's revolting for men, right? It's a societal standard
00:29:21.060
because of this. It's like when a woman sleeps around, she's a slut.
00:29:24.100
That's sociological. I'm saying it's biological.
00:29:26.160
Wait, wait, hang on. When a man sleeps around, he's a stud. So by that logic, you say repulse,
00:29:31.240
revolt, it should be the other way around, right? Women are like revolted and men sleeping around.
00:29:36.900
Yeah, but it wouldn't be the other way around. You're talking about a sociological...
00:29:40.880
No, I'm not. You're talking about a sociological versus a biological phenomenon.
00:29:47.860
The sociology is meeting with the biology. True. But why? Well, it's meeting with the
00:29:52.580
biology because men are revolted by promiscuous women. Women are not necessarily revolted by
00:30:01.260
It's biology and culturally we've been indoctrinated with religion.
00:30:02.760
Hang on, hang on. Let me finish. You can talk in a second. I'm almost done.
00:30:06.020
Okay. So after we get this foundational principle established that men are generally revolted
00:30:13.800
by promiscuous women, but women are not generally revolted by promiscuous men biologically. Yes,
00:30:19.700
the sociological phenomenons which spiral out of that, that's true, but it's the basis of
00:30:33.140
Just, I wasn't sure if I was going to bring this up earlier, but I'll say in the least
00:30:39.140
detailed way, I used to be a sex worker. And I was a sex worker that involved sleeping
00:30:44.360
with men. And Liza was, we were in a relationship for a period during that time.
00:30:50.460
Was it like, are you talking about prostitution?
00:30:52.700
Not exactly. And I don't want to get into the details on here, but, and I did do OnlyFans,
00:30:57.300
so I can, I can relate to some of these ladies. I wasn't on professional sets, but.
00:31:02.680
In a way, I just, I don't really, I don't know if I want to say it on the internet right
00:31:09.940
Seeing my girl getting pounded out by a bunch of dudes is a hard no for me dog.
00:31:15.080
Most dudes do not want to wife a girl who sleeps around even if it's for work purposes.
00:31:21.920
And so what I'm talking about now is I think a really unique perspective as a lesbian with
00:31:27.620
a woman partner. And Liza can correct me if I'm wrong, but she loved me through the whole
00:31:35.060
thing. She supported me and there wasn't insecurity there because of the fact that Liza knows that
00:31:41.880
she's, she, we used to always joke about it the last 12 years, like she wins. Like anyone
00:31:45.700
I've ever dated, they always are insecure around her because they know like she's who I love,
00:31:49.840
not them. Grid One Motorsports donated $200. I missed the bump up. To continue the thought
00:31:56.660
when you look back on a life of shattered relationships, it was your degenerate behavior
00:32:01.460
that lead to you being alone in the neighborhood cat lady.
00:32:05.860
So, so Grid One, Grid One, I appreciate the TTS. Yeah, we, we actually didn't do, we're not
00:32:11.960
doing 69 today. We just, we have a lot to get through. So it's just tuning up. But Grid One,
00:32:16.420
really good to see you in the chat. Really quick, just before I have you continue. So Andrew's
00:32:21.000
talking about paternity uncertainty, but given the nature of your relationship, since you're
00:32:25.100
both lesbians, there's no scenario where she could doubt the paternity if you two were to
00:32:29.780
have, I mean, you'd have to adopt or there'd have to be some sort of, you'd have to have
00:32:33.760
a donor. So it's not, I mean, you're welcome to chime in, but I don't think this is actually
00:32:39.640
I think it's addressing the insecurity portion. I was just saying my partner didn't feel insecure
00:32:44.800
about me doing those things. In fact, she felt supported because that money helped our dreams
00:32:50.140
Well, can I just say one thing? That's what, because when I was thinking like what would men
00:32:54.300
potentially feel is lacking a security? And with that, honestly, we don't have that because
00:33:00.560
there's no worry of a child. So I'm just, we're just saying we, I see the bile, like how a man could
00:33:06.540
feel that way and that we didn't experience that. That wasn't something that was a point of
00:33:14.180
Sure. Well, let's, let's back up a little bit. We're talking about insecurity versus
00:33:17.040
security because I hear these terms thrown around a lot.
00:33:19.120
Right. That's what I want to get to the root of.
00:33:22.880
Do you think that it's harder or easier to gaslight somebody who's secure?
00:33:31.860
So if you were to go to a man who was really secure and say, baby, I want to hump other men,
00:33:39.120
Um, probably, probably, right? So, so hang on. So it's not that he's insecure. It's
00:33:44.260
that he's so secure that your gaslighting won't work. Right. Isn't that what's really
00:33:50.840
Or is it, so what you're trying to say is the opposite. You're trying to say he's so
00:33:54.480
insecure that he won't accept this relationship standard. No, I say, and according to their
00:33:59.180
logic, they would agree. He's so secure. He won't accept your gaslighting.
00:34:02.860
And I also think, hang on to get really quickly, to get back to what I was originally
00:34:07.420
talking about with you guys is in trying to have their backs, right? Is, and you're kind
00:34:13.220
of proving my point. You have this like Madonna whore complex thing that sadly is like permeated
00:34:19.060
Well, I'll explain it. That's okay. I'll explain it to you.
00:34:21.200
But I feel like when men are so secure, now granted porn, sex work, that is an extreme
00:34:26.400
thing. I'm not saying everybody, oh, okay, be comfortable with that. Go on your way.
00:34:29.560
La-di-da. It's a personal thing. I'm saying if somebody knows you, knows your choices,
00:34:34.120
respects you, respects your work, and they're secure enough to go, you know what? I know
00:34:39.360
you shut that part off. We're transparent here. You know, we have these boundaries. I
00:34:45.860
respect you. And, you know, nothing can get between us. Like it's me and you, and this
00:34:50.820
is your work, and that's separate. I think that's cool, and that's rare. And it's just
00:34:54.440
what you guys are saying, sadly, I think just illustrates the boxes. Our society, whether
00:35:00.180
it be culturally, biologic, whatever it is, has put us in now. That's all I was trying
00:35:05.420
Yeah. I'm not sure how that negates what I said at all.
00:35:08.240
Well, because you said a secure guy is gaslit. I'm saying a real secure guy who knows the
00:35:15.280
situation they're getting into, knows what you guys have, knows nothing, can, you know,
00:35:23.900
I think that's what you guys have. I'm not in, I'm not a sex worker. I'm not.
00:35:29.520
Yeah. How could, how could you have the expectation that a civilian would know what they're signing
00:35:33.540
Well, and that's what I wanted to say is that you don't know it until you're in it. And
00:35:37.380
that's what I think you continue to have conversations. But what I was going to bring
00:35:41.700
up was that you brought up that now we do have DNA testing and all of this stuff. So
00:35:46.280
if you're thinking about humans still evolving right now, wouldn't that, I'm trying to think
00:35:52.500
of how I want to say this. Wouldn't that take away that natural insecurity or do you don't
00:35:57.740
think that, I'm just wondering, I don't have an opinion either way.
00:35:59.860
So evolution is going to happen to an entire species gradually over millions of years.
00:36:05.060
Over millions of years. How long do you think we've had paternity testing?
00:36:12.180
I mean, probably like, yeah, I was going to say like 40 years or something.
00:36:15.100
You don't think 40 years is long enough to evolve, do you?
00:36:21.780
Well, then there's all, I don't want to get into that right now, but.
00:36:26.760
I mean, if you're talking about social evolution, that would not be biological evolution.
00:36:30.960
Also, somebody could have been born before, not that this would change anything, someone
00:36:35.340
could have been before the invent of priority testing.
00:36:39.100
No, 100%. I'm agreeing with you. I don't think it could happen in 40 years, but I'm just
00:36:44.680
In the future, yeah, if this is all happening, if the way that we are in the society would
00:36:49.620
affect how our biologically, how we will biologically interact with it.
00:36:53.920
So it would be possible from the evolutionist purview that in 4, 5, 6, 7 million years, we
00:37:03.900
I don't think, considering that all of recorded human history is about 12,000 years old, recorded
00:37:08.920
12,000 years old, I don't think that in, yeah, it's going to take a long, long, long
00:37:15.620
But I guess I want to follow that up by asking if you think it's headed that way, should we
00:37:23.380
Like, should we change how we act, interact with each other?
00:37:27.080
I'm just telling you that theoretically, if you're asking, is it possible, then the answer
00:37:33.060
In millions of years, you could leave that behind from that purview.
00:37:37.080
In fact, it seems like we're evolving away from it, and here's why.
00:37:44.980
So right now, the birth rates in the West, the entire world are collapsing.
00:37:50.640
Everything is below replacement all over the entirety of the West.
00:37:53.960
The reason for this is because women are having children later in life.
00:38:01.060
And so, unfortunately, the fertility goes way down.
00:38:05.820
So a lot of women are going to end up being reproductive dead ends.
00:38:09.340
If that's the case, then probably monogamy is going to make a swing back in a big way.
00:38:13.040
So I don't think we would be evolving away from it anytime soon.
00:38:16.280
And we have those preferences there, the biological preferences anyway, of men find it revolting
00:38:23.100
So with that being said, just out of curiosity, you're straight and date women.
00:38:31.820
When you see your wife or whoever you dated before your wife, whatever it was, like flirting
00:38:36.800
with another man or whatever, is that, does that make you feel a type of way?
00:38:43.940
Well, see, because I'm so secure in what my expectations are, right?
00:38:51.500
And I would feel secure enough to say something like, what the fuck are you doing?
00:39:02.020
See, I think that the purview of the most secure man is a man who will tell a woman that
00:39:07.880
they won't accept their bad behavior, whatever that may be.
00:39:11.740
I'm just debating you from my point of view, right?
00:39:14.860
So I have a, the best guy I've said, like dream relationship, right?
00:39:20.640
Well, I was trying to answer your question, but go ahead.
00:39:26.400
When you say bad behavior is flirting, it's like, why is that bad behavior?
00:39:42.340
Let us assume any random man, it's a random guy, random, that we were to teleport you into
00:39:49.880
a relationship with him tomorrow, just some random man in the United States, okay?
00:39:56.900
Would you say that if we teleported you directly into a marriage with him and he began, or you
00:40:02.360
began to flirt with other guys in front of him, that he would appreciate that or not
00:40:07.360
So that's just a random, obscure example of, like, taking an alien from Mars and marrying
00:40:12.560
Yeah, it's a hypothetical designed to test your logic.
00:40:23.880
People often obfuscate away from points when they're asked to test their logic.
00:40:34.040
So, do you think that they would be more or less likely to be upset?
00:40:39.700
Your view of what's disrespectful and all this is completely contrarian to what I think,
00:40:52.940
And listen, I, too, have had my own journey with this.
00:41:07.420
Were you on the path of your journey that you met me?
00:41:14.000
So, I'm just saying, for me now, it is the sexiest thing when a guy is not possessive,
00:41:34.000
Like, just be in your individual, respective powers.
00:41:38.420
Like, be in your power and to box your significant other and be like, oh, you can't do that.
00:41:43.880
To me, it's hot when girls are like, oh, your man is hot.
00:41:47.380
Does some of that, like, possessiveness come up?
00:42:00.220
So if you're in a monogamous relationship and you were inclined to open up the relationship
00:42:04.460
and then go have sex with another man, would that be possessive or controlling for your
00:42:15.060
And I think the transparency is what's really cool.
00:42:17.800
Yeah, but would it be insecure of him to not want that?
00:42:22.140
It totally depends on the, I could understand why, and we're not there, but I could understand
00:42:26.300
why a guy would be like, or a woman would be like, I don't, I'm not down with that.
00:42:30.500
So then let's back way up so I can engage exactly with what you're saying.
00:42:33.860
Back to my, this alien transportation hypothetical.
00:42:37.800
If you were teleported directly into a marriage with some random guy, a random guy, I know
00:42:46.160
Do you think that, do you think that that random guy would be more likely to get jealous
00:42:53.840
If it was just a random sample, I know it depends on the guy.
00:42:58.580
Because, so here, I can explain, I explained exactly how you can answer it.
00:43:02.100
And that the conversation is if you either are or you're not, but it's, it's, so let's
00:43:07.500
say, let's say this, if 70% of the men in the United States, okay, 70% of the men in
00:43:12.760
the United States would get jealous by their woman flirting with somebody else.
00:43:16.480
Then if I ask you this question, if you were randomly teleported into a marriage with a
00:43:20.620
random guy, then your chances are still going to be high.
00:43:23.820
If it's 70% of being teleported into a marriage with a guy who would be jealous, right?
00:43:31.440
Because of just if we know the way men think, or we like to think we know, we never will truly
00:43:36.720
know, but then if that's what they're expressing, I do believe that.
00:43:40.860
But I think it goes to the point that you were saying is that if you say to your wife, this
00:43:46.240
makes me feel disrespected, she shouldn't do it and vice versa.
00:43:49.680
I think that I wouldn't be with Delaney if she wasn't pushing me to be a better person
00:43:55.140
And if you're not willing to take inventory and look at where you're wrong or illogical or
00:44:00.260
too emotional, then we can't have these conversations because we're not willing to even step out.
00:44:06.280
But I agree with you that it is a personal thing.
00:44:09.060
And maybe I can look at it at a different angle.
00:44:14.320
Like you said, it's empowering for you to be able to flirt, right?
00:44:20.660
Is it also empowering for you to tell a man not to flirt if it makes you uncomfortable?
00:44:30.260
It's apples and oranges because I'm not empowered by that.
00:44:37.120
You said her flirting, whatever, it's disrespectful.
00:44:41.960
Really, if you get to the root of it, why do I feel a type of way?
00:44:45.920
It's, oh, they might like this person more than they like me.
00:44:51.700
If you're with a secure person, a secure person has boundaries.
00:44:54.720
If a secure person has boundaries, then actually by allowing you to do that, they're showing
00:45:00.320
You're insecure putting your significant other in a box, period.
00:45:03.580
No, you're insecure demanding that they go outside of their preferences.
00:45:12.880
Well, if you're going to find somebody who has your preferences, that goes all the way
00:45:15.780
back to the conversation of, do you think you'd find somebody who's more likely to
00:45:26.220
And there was a point where we didn't know what we were like in relationship wise, like
00:45:29.440
definition, because we started off as friends and then we were fuck buddies and then we just
00:45:35.940
But there was a point where I was flirting with some guy because I was like, I don't know
00:45:42.460
And he's like, well, don't come cry to me if you find out that his dick's not as good
00:45:46.340
And it scared me so much that he was probably right that I stopped talking to the person.
00:45:53.680
You guys can't convince me it's not all insecurity.
00:46:01.200
Personally, I wouldn't even approach the idea of entering a relationship if someone's views
00:46:11.280
So I feel like that's a first base conversation just to casually talk about, to gauge each
00:46:17.600
other's preferences, boundaries, all of it to not waste each other's time.
00:46:23.840
But also, I feel like me personally, if I was in a relationship, all that matters to me
00:46:35.320
So I don't see myself being in a monogamous type of relationship.
00:46:42.980
It's not more so for work reasons, but just me.
00:46:46.000
And I feel like that is something that's discussed in its boundaries and obviously a relationship
00:46:52.040
Well, what you're saying is rational and it's reasonable.
00:46:55.100
But you would have to concede to that you could enter into a relationship with a person.
00:47:01.880
And then after they're like, wait a second, this actually feels different or I can't handle
00:47:08.680
You couldn't really get mad at them for that, right?
00:47:10.560
And that's always like, if they feel that way, then obviously this is not something that
00:47:17.300
The reason I ask that is because by her definition, how she just gave what she thinks security and
00:47:24.040
insecurity is, she would think that that was being insecure.
00:47:30.740
Is that security or insecurity that he's in the relationship?
00:47:33.620
Does that feel like somebody, what you're saying, matching your thing?
00:47:40.120
But then after six months, he goes, look, this feels way different than I thought it would.
00:47:58.460
I think it's a consent thing more than anything.
00:48:02.840
If he's like, look, this is, it's too much, which I'm sure, you know, you probably, you've
00:48:14.260
By staying true to these values and saying, listen, this feels way different than I thought
00:48:21.340
Again, Andrew, I think it's at the root of why they don't like it.
00:48:28.840
It could be I'm secure and, and, and how I feel, and it could be insecure and like
00:48:32.620
when you keep saying, let's get to the root, that's where we're at.
00:48:37.140
And if you do think that that is insecurity, ultimately, because it's a mix of the two.
00:48:47.900
Boundaries and insecurity are almost like interchangeable words in that scenario.
00:48:53.040
So if I took silver and I took gold and I melted them together, there would still be
00:49:00.480
So if there's insecurity plus blank, there's still insecurity.
00:49:03.880
So you saying it's a mix of insecurity plus something else means you still think it's insecure.
00:49:10.220
So then if you think it's insecure for a man to halfway, you know, six months into a relationship,
00:49:18.420
I said getting to the root of it, if one of the reasons he's like, this is too much,
00:49:24.540
I said, if one of the reasons deep down, he may not even, this person alien may not even
00:49:36.820
But you and your Mr. Alien man from Elon Musk's space, I don't even know.
00:49:41.180
So in this scenario though, he just says, listen, it feels different than how I thought it
00:49:50.760
And then I think that when you're walking away, as women, we can show our security by
00:49:56.040
if someone says that they don't want that, then you're so secure in yourself that it's
00:50:06.100
If you can set a boundary, that means you're secure in yourself.
00:50:09.100
But the thing is you guys are just talking about, you have two different boundaries.
00:50:12.120
Your future male partner has completely different boundaries than Andrew's boundaries, but him
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setting a boundary with his wife and you setting a boundary with your future partner?
00:50:29.680
So much delusion in one panel smells like a lot of evil feminism ruining women and queer
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Are you feminist or do you embrace the patriarchy?
00:50:50.920
We still need to get everybody's relationship status.
00:50:56.200
Um, I feel like there's parts of feminism I agree with and there's other parts.
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Like I don't feel like, like with preferences in relationships, right?
00:51:08.580
I don't think every woman wants to be the trad wife homemaker.
00:51:14.680
Some women like being independent and that's okay.
00:51:18.400
So just real, so just real quick and we'll get back to this, but we just want to get the
00:51:31.440
So when we're going around the table, don't be like, I agree.
00:51:35.160
Even if you agree, just state your actual, yeah.
00:51:41.560
I mean, I just agree with parts of it and not the whole thing.
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I guess I can't say I am then if I disagree with some things.
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The views expressed by the panelists do not necessarily.
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Now, really quick, just going back to your answer.
00:52:26.900
You were saying how, well, but you don't believe in the trad life thing.
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Or do you think feminists are in favor of trad lives?
00:52:36.580
No, that's why, no, feminists are in favor of, you know, female power.
00:52:45.600
I'm, I am a happy medium between I love being a homemaker for my home, but I also like being
00:52:53.720
an independent woman who's in control of myself and my career and everything.
00:52:58.360
Just one more question to kind of flesh this idea out better.
00:53:01.420
When we say feminism, what do you think that means in like a really short, concise answer?
00:53:08.580
But just so we have a general idea of what that means.
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Pushing for female equality in work, home, all aspects of life, reproductive rights.
00:53:34.900
I think to me, it's more of how we live and treat each other than wanting women to be on
00:53:43.180
I truly believe that I know I'm not supposed to talk about racism, but I think they are
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intertwined and I think you can't have one without.
00:53:57.200
Like equal rights or, I mean, I'm not sure, but I feel like what you just said, you said
00:54:02.560
like treating everyone with like the same respect kind of vibe.
00:54:05.260
Like that just seems like being like, I don't know, like I'm trying to think of the word,
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but just like, that's like equality for everyone, you know?
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So I can't like, if that's it, then I don't know if that's really feminism in my mind.
00:54:20.080
That's kind of what I wanted to ask you guys, like with that question, like what you guys
00:54:24.100
would describe it as, like in that either or sense, I guess.
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I would describe feminism as just supporting women to being their fullest potential of
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So if you want to be a trad wife, I support you a hundred percent as a feminist and being
00:54:40.000
If you don't want to be one, I also support you a hundred percent.
00:54:45.440
I've had wildly different things back and forth and I'm glad I've experienced them all.
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And I don't think I'm less or more of a woman compared to other women because of my
00:54:54.040
So, but obviously feeds into equality because if we're supporting women being,
00:54:58.060
their highest, best self, then there are certain parts of society that are not equal.
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So it makes it a little harder for us to get there.
00:55:05.200
So in a concise way, I would say the economic, cultural, social equality of the sexes.
00:55:13.860
My whole brand and what I'm about is empowering women.
00:55:17.140
And this is why I say I'm not the, I'm not buying into the woke version of feminism because
00:55:21.220
I think the whole patriarchy thing has gone way too far.
00:55:35.160
I know that I noticed that, but thank you for pointing that out.
00:55:40.340
Well, because we're having such a rich conversation because I feel like you came to be a little
00:55:44.160
shit because, because there's like, there's like 20, there's like 20 different women who
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have been through in just the last two weeks who say woman instead of women.
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And honestly, I'm just really fucking confused why they do.
00:56:09.420
Well, it was bothering me and I'm the important one here, but anyway, go ahead.
00:56:39.420
I'm smaller, but I pack a bigger punch than you.
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Yes, I think the whole, you know, I'm sure this is one thing that we could probably
00:57:08.900
see eye to eye on, is that the whole blaming men, villainizing men for everything, demonizing
00:57:20.720
The whole smash the patriarchy thing in my mind has just gone way too far.
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I acknowledge that the patriarchy has been a system set in place for years and years
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and years and years, and we're still dismantling it now.
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But let's focus on what's ahead and keep, you know...
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You do want to dismantle the patriarchy, though.
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I just think we're dwelling on it is dwelling in the past.
00:58:00.340
But you said you object to smashing the patriarchy.
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How's that anything different than dismantling the patriarchy?
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Burger, I was going to say smash, and I was like...
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Yeah, so you said you're against the whole smash the patriarchy thing, but you're also
00:58:24.800
Can you just actually engage instead of, like, having a meta conversation?
00:58:41.400
I just feel like I'm making sense, and everyone's making sense, and you guys go a little extra
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How is it not a valid question when you said, I'm against the whole smash the patriarchy
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thing, but you're in favor of the dismantling of the patriarchy?
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No, I get how that seems contradictory, for sure.
00:59:05.500
I said I am against dwelling on the fact that people are obsessed with the patriarchy has
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us under our thumb, and men are the reason for everything, and the male gaze, and this,
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Like I said, I acknowledge they're the systems that have been put in place.
00:59:23.120
However, why focus on that when we can focus on how far we've come, what women can do now
00:59:30.120
that we couldn't even make a dent in however many years ago, and move forward?
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That's what I mean by that, and I feel like anyone with common sense would get that.
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I think there's multiple ways why people define feminism, but the way I've always been told
00:59:47.380
is feminism to me is like women equality and supporting women in their decisions.
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To women voting, I don't think women should have the right to vote, but, you know.
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Because we have this overwhelming majority of females just, oh, my feelings!
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The views expressed by the panelists do not necessarily reflect the views of the whatever channel.
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What has the idea-slash-movement-slash-monarchy done for society in a positive way?
01:00:59.240
What has the idea-movement done for society in a positive way?
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I think it just has brought me a lot more security in who I am as a woman.
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Honestly, if we're just thinking about that, I feel much more connected.
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I am the patriarchy, and loudmouth Pinky knows nothing of my work.
01:01:34.960
Do women have any rights that men do not grant to them?
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We'll get around the table on the first question, then we'll go to this.
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Um, well, I just think that's part of the problem is I don't think I should be granted
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I do think there are natural rights as a human that we all have or should have, and that we
01:01:59.260
But again, feminism to me is about more community.
01:02:03.280
I do think it's about bringing up the matriarchy, but I don't think it has to be one or the other.
01:02:08.080
I think it's about finding a way that we can work together, and you can't hate men into
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loving, you know, loving women, like, which I'm not saying men, all men hate women, but
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I don't know, and I don't interact with enough men to really believe that.
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Let's get short answers from everybody if we can.
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How it's been positive for society, for you, yeah.
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I personally think it's good that everyone can vote, well, everyone that's, like, not a
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felon or whatever the other reasons you wouldn't be able to vote are, but I think that equal
01:02:49.580
I mean, it's, to be blatantly obvious, look at the drastic shift the country has experienced
01:02:54.140
in the last couple weeks since Biden dropped out and Kamala took over.
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I can feel the hope everywhere, and it's seeing a woman, and particularly a woman of color,
01:03:07.620
actually being able to raise that, like, that astronomical amount of money, like, so quickly,
01:03:14.680
Like, the hope is infectious, and it's changing society in a really positive way.
01:03:18.680
I honestly think I haven't felt this light and joyful in quite a while.
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Is it because she's a woman, or because she's a person of color?
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And I mean this in the kindest way, but it breaks my heart that there are women that think
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that so lowly of ourselves that we shouldn't be able to make decisions in this country.
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Like, she's, like, she's so much more intelligent, and...
01:03:49.640
Yeah, she is, and so, and I totally, and as a feminist, I respect your ability to be able
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It breaks my heart that you feel that you don't deserve the ability to make choices about
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I mean, do you think Trump's stupid fucking tweets us?
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She's gone after his looks since the original debates.
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What do you have to say about her besides her dances?
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The fact that she got on her knees for Willie Brown and sucked his cock to get into office?
01:04:43.440
She is what made her do that in the first place?
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I am incredibly proud of her because she's extremely intelligent.
01:04:57.200
And, like, she's actually speaking shit that makes sense.
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We don't want to go back to thinking, like, we're moving forward.
01:05:08.020
So, she was able to secure the nominee as the...
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Like, do you think she would have been the nominee?
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No, and that's because of the way that the patriarchal system is set up.
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I mean, in the last election, the vast majority of liberal white women voted for Trump.
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They register as Democrats, but they're more moderate, and they lean a little more conservative.
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But on paper, they're registering as Democrats.
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Liberal women, especially liberal white women, most definitely did not show up to vote for
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They always swing towards the Democrat vote, especially liberal women who are usually college-educated.
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So college-educated women overwhelmingly vote Democrat.
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More white women voted for Trump in the last election than they did in the first one.
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What does that have to do with your claim, though?
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Your claim was that liberal women were voting for Trump.
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Because a lot of these women are claiming to be moderate Democrats, and then they're saying
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that Trump is the lesser evil in this specific...
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They're mostly voting the way their husbands vote.
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That's what I'm saying, and that's what's so different about Kamala, is that for once,
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those women, those stay-at-home mom, housewife women, for once, are going to the polls this
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year, and I truly believe they're going to vote for what they want.
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They're not just going to follow their husbands for once.
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They actually are going to think for themselves.
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That has to be the dumbest thing I have heard today.
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Trump cheated his way and fucked prostitutes to the top.
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I don't know why we don't want to talk about that.
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By the way, Grid One, we will get to your question.
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Let's bring it back to one thing that feminism has done positive for society.
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That women are no longer second-class citizens, like in some other countries.
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I know we're trying to keep it moving, so to keep it moving.
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I definitely think feminism has opened up a lot of opportunities for women, and not
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just that, but it also brought a sense of belonging.
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I see multiple women achieving for certain careers has also been super inspired.
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And then, here, we're going to get to Grid Ones.
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So, actually, let's just finish Relationship Status.
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We've been a couple for the last two years, and a little bit out of the box to make it
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You know, probably this one, but usually I'm in the two-ish year range.
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Would you be fine with him flirting with other women?
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Uh, I'm single and I have not been in a committed relationship.
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What about, what's the longest period of time you've dated somebody?
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So when I say date, this can include all the way from like a one-night stand to friends
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These women are so delusioned one has to wonder if they believe the garbage they spew.
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Have you been on multiple dates with the same guy?
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I just haven't been in a serious committed relationship to like have that connection with
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And so you want that before you have carnal knowledge.
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And are you, um, you waiting for love or just the right guy?
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So what's like the longest period of time you've, you said you were in a situationship.
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Um, it was the classic, he wasn't ready for a relationship.
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And it wasn't, like, communication wasn't clear.
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Did, was he aware that you had not like had a boyfriend before?
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Or never, like first anything really with the guy?
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Uh, would, had he said yes to you wanting a relationship with him, would you have slept
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Um, I definitely think it would invest more time in him before that.
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I guess like all my life, like there has been opportunities, but I just like, I'm a very
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picky person and I haven't really found like the person that checks all my boxes, I guess.
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Um, someone who's goal oriented, knows how to treat a woman, um, there's really smart,
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When you say knows how to treat a woman, what do you mean?
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Um, like, so it shows a lot of respect and, um, I'd say someone who treats me, who is
01:12:08.540
a gentleman, um, I can't think of like this, um, just like prioritizes me, but not like
01:12:15.860
That's still like, still cares about his own life and his own priorities.
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Any like physical traits that you're picky about?
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Um, I'm preferably higher, um, like taller than me.
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Now you said treats you like a gentleman, treats you well.
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Does that include like, do you want more traditional treatment?
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Like you want him to be like taking you out, provide, like going on dates, paying for dates?
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Like I'm totally willing to go to date with you.
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Well, it checks out with the whole feminist thing.
01:13:02.800
You'd be fine going 50-50 on the first date, right?
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I've been in a relationship for five years now and we, that's my longest relationship now.
01:13:30.320
If you, like, I'm just curious, if you met the right guy and you knew, like, super early
01:13:36.140
on that you, like, really liked this guy, would you still wait or would you just, like, because
01:13:39.720
I know some girls, it's like, even if they're a virgin, it's like, they don't, they just want
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But once they find the right guy, they don't really have any qualms with, like, they could,
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it could be relatively quick in terms of timeline of hooking up.
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Or for you, it's like, even if I find the right guy, I would want to wait a couple months
01:14:01.400
Yeah, I definitely want to wait a couple months.
01:14:04.420
We have a, uh, hold on, actually, before I get into that, we got to, okay, we'll go to
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Guys, go to twitch.tv slash whatever, drops a follow, drops a prime sub, twitch.tv slash
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You can also, that, that's a whole bunch of other tabs.
01:14:19.760
All right, guys, go to twitch.tv slash whatever, drops a follow, drops a prime sub.
01:14:23.120
Guys, it's been one minute since we got a prime sub.
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Uh, it's probably, it's probably, it's probably gone bugged since we've last been there.
01:14:32.480
So can you guys just drop us a little prime sub in the chat?
01:14:37.940
How you gonna, bro, dude, how you gonna do that, man?
01:14:42.700
Yo, James, thank you for the prime, appreciate it.
01:14:48.660
Uh, so we need to do grid one's question, which, actually, hold on, but no, no, no, hold on.
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Killa of Cereal, hold on, we'll, we're gonna do this one, and then we'll get back into
01:15:03.480
My new favorite question for the panel, most embarrassing moment on a date.
01:15:10.840
Uh, so it was that one that came through earlier.
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Uh, if you can, keep your answer, Reader's Digest, plot synopsis, 10, 20 seconds if you
01:15:22.660
I haven't really been on any embarrassing dates.
01:15:24.740
Well, what about, like, most embarrassing, uh, situation to happen while you were in
01:15:47.940
People, people be farting, and they're not cleaned up properly.
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I wasn't thinking necessarily, like, during sex.
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I meant more so, like, you're, you're spending time, you're spending time with a man who you
01:16:07.940
So, I, I think, like, when people think date, they're thinking, like, a formal, like, I want
01:16:15.720
It can be, like, you're hanging out at your place type thing.
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So, there's very little that I can do that's actually embarrassing.
01:16:32.660
The only thing I can think of is, I, one of the four, first times I went over to my
01:16:37.920
ex's house, um, I left the stove on for eight hours once I left.
01:16:47.200
I don't really have any embarrassing date stories, but, I mean, I also have plenty of,
01:16:53.940
There was one time that I, like, had an asthma attack while I was, like, going down on a
01:16:59.440
dude, and I, like, I, like, went too far down, and then I coughed, and then I was, like,
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and then I was, like, and then I just ran away, and, like.
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I, Kim, this is racking my brain for a good one.
01:17:20.300
It wasn't, like, a boyfriend, but I was meeting a man with the intention of having sex with him,
01:17:24.360
and we met at a Starbucks, and he spilled his coffee all over himself, like, and he just
01:17:30.780
got so shaky and embarrassed, because he never met, and I was trying to be, you know, nice
01:17:33.780
and laugh it off, but he was so embarrassed, he just left, and I never talked to him again,
01:17:38.660
and it was really awkward, but that's the only thing I can really, because, same, I'm very
01:17:42.680
much myself, like, if I do something stupid, I just laugh about it.
01:17:53.280
I was always, like, kind of, like, I was solo or relationship kind of gal, but I've
01:18:00.060
Okay, so it can be within, like, an embarrassing story.
01:18:10.280
I can't think of anything too embarrassing, but I guess I was longboarding with this guy,
01:18:24.980
I didn't realize I could have called my boyfriend in the very beginning, actually, and I found
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Just needed some time for it to get back to me.
01:18:44.240
Okay, so I was, like, maybe 18, 19, 20, around there.
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And I went to have, it was just, like, a casual hookup.
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We were just sleep together sometimes, and we were drinking, and we had chicken nuggets
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Oh, that, you know, mama did not raise a quitter, so kind of just go, and some of the nuggies
01:19:15.520
came back up, and you just slurp and keep going.
01:19:33.540
Well, we've, this question's been posed to us quite a few times.
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Okay, so one time I was on a date with a chick, and she went back to my house with me.
01:19:47.560
And I was living with my parents at the time, and my sister.
01:19:51.040
And she came out and said, oh, hi, how are you?
01:19:54.640
And the girl said, yeah, yeah, kitty, let me pet the kitty.
01:19:57.240
And my sister said, okay, and handed it to her.
01:19:58.840
So she pets it, and then for reasons I don't understand, threw the cat to my sister.
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Cat went crazy, went ballistic, started shredding my sister.
01:20:07.380
She panicked, threw the cat off of her, which landed back on the date, started shredding
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This is a J.D. Vance cat story if I ever heard one.
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Did that make you happy that I told this story?
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Do you believe in dismantling whiteness despite your answer?
01:20:57.400
Well, we can only do like really one question per message.
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Can it be a combination to answer all of it in short context?
01:21:10.240
I feel like no certain race should have superiority.
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There's no reason for one race to reign superior, have more authority, have more respect or value.
01:21:30.120
It's about dismantling the ideas that have been built throughout the years of this country existing that white people are superior in this country.
01:21:51.320
I say that there's some white people out there who believe they are.
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And that's, you know, you can't say all of them because I have plenty of white friends who don't think that way.
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I don't think you can, I don't think they mean dismantling whiteness because I can't change that I'm white.
01:22:13.600
But I can, I do think there is a system in place.
01:22:16.720
Again, I said earlier, I don't think you can work on dismantling patriarchy and all of that stuff without dismantling racism.
01:22:26.940
And I think it's, again, the main issue is equality in that area.
01:22:31.920
So, yeah, I just think that I personally, as a white person, can do work to see everyone for their experiences and not putting myself in their shoes as me, but truly having empathy and looking at people from their perspective in their life.
01:22:47.940
Yeah, like she said, I can't, like, dismantle my own whiteness.
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But, like, Luna mentioned, like, I didn't get a lot of, like, equality vibe.
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I think it's more just, like, validating others' experiences and bringing them up as well, you know?
01:23:09.880
And I think dismantling whiteness is kind of a conservative buzz phrase to sound offensive.
01:23:15.180
Like, when we say dismantling whiteness, no one's talking about stopping being white, obviously.
01:23:22.480
We're talking about dismantling the systems that continue to perpetuate putting white people first.
01:23:29.360
And, yes, we do need to continue to dismantle that.
01:23:33.360
I have a follow-up question on that, but I'll let the rest of the panelists answer.
01:23:35.840
I will say, similarly, dismantling whiteness, that's a first for me.
01:23:43.660
You know, again, what you guys were saying, folks can't help that they're white.
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On the other end of it, I think, you know, DEI and all of that has, like I said, with all this master patriarchy, it's just gone too far.
01:24:19.740
I don't believe in, you know, filling quotas or putting people in certain positions because of how they look.
01:24:27.940
I also believe it's more about dismantling the system and how there's a lot of, like, prejudices in that.
01:24:34.820
So, I do believe there's a lot of progress that needs to be done.
01:24:38.020
Wasn't Kamala picked because she's a black woman to be his, like, the running mate, originally?
01:24:49.780
So, glad you brought it back to Kabul, as you guys don't have a lot to say.
01:25:13.120
So, if we, like, look at other countries that have, for example, a different race as the majority.
01:25:21.340
Do you think that there ought to be a movement in China, for example, to equalize the racial representation in that country?
01:25:32.720
To be quite honest with you, I'm not familiar with the culture of living in China.
01:25:42.480
I don't know if their society is geared in such a way that if you're not Chinese that you have less advantages in the society.
01:25:49.760
I can only speak to the society I live in, and I can say white people do have advantages in this society.
01:25:54.240
In China, I don't live there, but, sure, if it's set up so that the people who are, like, Chinese are, they get way more advantages than people who happen to be black but live in China, then, sure, there should be one there, too.
01:26:07.460
But I don't live there, so I'd rather speak about what I'm educated about, and I am educated about where I live.
01:26:12.420
I think to get at the heart of Brian's question, I'll ask a different one in the same vein.
01:26:20.580
They don't want people who are not Japanese to immigrate into Japan.
01:26:26.100
Is that a wrongful policy from your perspective?
01:26:38.460
If it's just simply because they want pure Japanese blood, then 100% that's wrong.
01:26:42.500
So then you would apply the same logic to Israel?
01:26:44.900
I mean, I know we weren't allowed to talk to Israel.
01:26:51.600
I'm just asking if you would apply the same logic there.
01:26:53.420
I would apply the same logic that if there's any place where you have to look a certain way to have an advantage,
01:27:01.040
and that is the only reason you get that advantage, and that you naturally will be disadvantaged simply because of the way you're born,
01:27:06.300
whether that's your gender, whether that's your color, whether it's anything, that is not right.
01:27:11.400
And I believe everyone should have an equal opportunity to be successful in any given society.
01:27:18.040
So you would then be in favor of Europeans, white Americans, moving to Japan, attempting to gain positions of political power in Japan.
01:27:28.440
If they were someone of European descent who's lived in Japan for a decade or more,
01:27:36.120
and if they've never been there before and know nothing about the country, then no.
01:27:38.960
I also don't think that someone who knows nothing about America should become the president.
01:27:42.840
But I don't think the color of your skin determines how knowledgeable you are.
01:27:47.640
If you grew up there and you're of European descent, you should have equal opportunity to be in power.
01:27:55.420
Wouldn't you still want people who just got to the United States yesterday to be represented?
01:28:00.500
But do I want them to lead the country if they've never lived here before and don't know what the average plight is for the average person on the streets?
01:28:07.220
No, I think their voices should be heard, but that's why the president is not our ultimate ruler.
01:28:12.760
That's why we have a system of checks and balances.
01:28:14.900
They could totally be in the House of Representatives or Representatives on a more local level, like on a city council.
01:28:23.920
Let's say Japan opens it up to immigrants coming into Japan, which they've recently done.
01:28:29.060
This is because they have an aging out elder population, enough young people take care of them.
01:28:32.820
So they're opening up work visas to come into Japan.
01:28:44.000
I mean, I think you earned, I do believe in earnings and that's a whole other topic.
01:28:47.060
They're not ever going to give them citizenship.
01:28:48.060
But I'm just like, I, if you were not born there and you're coming over for a work visa or a student visa or something, yeah, I don't think you should necessarily be able to choose who's in power if that's not where you're investing your family.
01:28:59.540
Like, if you're investing your life, your money, like you're investing in the local economy.
01:29:02.980
You're having kids in this town, like you're invested in this place, you should have complete equal opportunities to vote and have opportunity to be in power as well.
01:29:10.360
But if you're just there because you have a temp job, you're going back to the States in a few months, I mean, sure.
01:29:16.100
So if they're coming in, let's say they're there for 10 years.
01:29:18.280
I think if you're there for 10 years, you should be able to have a say, for sure.
01:29:21.400
Because at this point, you've contributed to the community.
01:29:23.900
What if you came in, though, with the understanding that they did not ever want you to have a say?
01:29:28.140
If you come in with that understanding, then sure, because you agreed to that.
01:29:32.980
I think people come to America with the understanding they're going to be able to participate.
01:29:37.520
So there's nothing you actually think is fundamentally immoral about Japan wanting to keep itself Japanese?
01:29:46.740
Like, I do believe that if you have been a part of that culture and you're ingrained in that culture,
01:29:54.320
I do think that, especially if you were born there, is what I'm saying,
01:29:58.240
not like you made a choice as an adult and you agreed to these rules.
01:30:01.120
Like, you were born there, you just happened to be a white guy that was born there.
01:30:03.920
You should be able to have power and not be elected.
01:30:12.960
If you are not American, then STFU of a country should decide what they do.
01:30:17.360
I'm saying they have the right to do that because if I'm choosing to go to Japan,
01:30:22.260
But I'm saying if I was born in Japan looking the way I look,
01:30:25.160
I think I should have the same right to someone else.
01:30:26.840
So if the Japanese were to say, and I'll just button it up with this answer,
01:30:30.680
if they were to say we don't want any immigrants from any other nations to come into the nation,
01:30:38.160
But for my country as an American, I want other cultures here personally.
01:30:43.080
But yeah, if that's what they want, that's not my culture.
01:30:46.160
I'm not going to go pry and say, fuck you, I deserve to be here.
01:30:50.380
There's plenty of places in the world I'd like to visit that they might not like me there,
01:30:54.540
I also think in a perfect world, it would be immoral for us to block us from traveling and going places,
01:31:00.940
but I don't see any way to actually put that into action.
01:31:04.500
So it makes me feel like what's the point in saying that or thinking that?
01:31:10.560
In a perfect world, if we were born here, whatever this is, I feel like we're supposed to be happy and things are supposed to be easy for everyone.
01:31:25.020
And I don't know, at this point in time, how that could realistically happen.
01:31:32.180
We have to go with the systems we already have in place.
01:31:37.660
Like she said, if people want to live there and invest their lives, or if they're born there, they should have rights.
01:31:45.540
But if it's just a traveling thing now, like we can't really...
01:31:52.080
But if a system existed in which a culture said, we do not want any outsiders anywhere near this, and it was a well-developed nation,
01:32:00.380
you wouldn't actually have any objections to that.
01:32:03.260
In my heart of hearts, I feel like that is immoral.
01:32:13.660
But I understand that it's not possible in this world we live in.
01:32:17.480
Yeah, do you base morals though on just how you feel?
01:32:22.880
Why I said I don't even know if it's worth bringing up, but it is something I think about often
01:32:26.960
and wish more people would be willing to talk about.
01:32:32.240
And I don't know if that's idealist or something, but I still think that if we get to that route,
01:32:37.940
like if we really could all just coexist in the world, like I don't understand.
01:32:44.740
An ideal world is no one owns the earth and we all get along, but the truth of the matter
01:32:50.700
So I completely respect if another culture doesn't want me there.
01:32:57.080
But I, as an American living in America right now, like I have an...
01:33:01.360
As a woman who does have the right to vote because women fought so hard for that,
01:33:09.580
The more you guys talk, I'm so grateful I am to be a lesbian, man.
01:33:20.920
We definitely fought for the rights we have, for sure.
01:33:28.740
To put a button on all this, something I think that we can all agree on is to celebrate
01:33:33.000
the fact that we are in the most thriving democracy in the world.
01:33:39.840
To, you know, like all of these topics, people don't want to see the nuance.
01:33:45.760
And I just personally don't feel like we're in...
01:33:47.600
Like racism doesn't exist or we're in a racist country.
01:33:50.440
It's like, yes, we're not where we want to be, but just like the feminism thing.
01:33:55.520
I think we were having a pretty nuanced conversation, honestly.
01:33:58.260
Well, no, I'm not saying it was a nuance, but I'm saying it seems to be in the binary
01:34:02.680
of like, you know, white, patriarchy, it runs everything, and the systems, and you know
01:34:08.980
In order to have discourse, we're going to have to have descriptors that we can apply
01:34:22.780
But if I have a descriptor, you know what heuristics are.
01:34:25.200
So heuristics work because they work as descriptors for us to have conversations to get to the
01:34:31.620
I'm saying we tend to be in a lot with a lot of these topics, again, common sense and
01:34:36.560
But back to what I originally said, would you not agree with that?
01:34:46.120
So for one thing, I think that, I don't think we're arguing around the edges.
01:34:51.220
I'm asking if you're debating the idea that I've thrown out.
01:35:01.080
To celebrate how we're in the freest country in the world and that we are not where, you
01:35:08.040
know, we have a complicated past, a complex past.
01:35:12.900
We've made a lot of way, but we're not where we want to be.
01:35:16.220
Yeah, so first of all, I think we need to untangle a couple of things.
01:35:21.100
The first is, how did you establish that this is the freest country in the world?
01:35:32.440
Oh, well, that's a declarative statement, but not a demonstration.
01:35:46.140
I guess I haven't gone enough places to really know if they're free or not.
01:35:51.180
I only know based on what I see, what I'm fed by the media.
01:35:54.320
Well, I just want to let you know that that's a neat slogan to say, the freest country in
01:35:59.800
But I seem to remember that there was lockdowns, and it didn't feel like it was all that free.
01:36:05.020
So the thing is, not only that, well, wait, the most free country in the world probably
01:36:15.940
I mean, now it seems like the last few weeks, it's kind of started to dissipate, but the
01:36:20.240
looming threat of Project 2025 made me feel for the first time, especially as someone
01:36:25.460
who wants to have children through, yeah, keep laughing at me, it's so funny, like, especially
01:36:31.040
as someone who wants to have children through reciprocal IVF, which is specifically detailed
01:36:38.220
That made me feel like this country might, I mean, Liza and I were literally like, should
01:36:41.600
we figure out how to get a work-study visa or something, and maybe try going somewhere
01:36:45.700
Like, we genuinely were wondering, are we going to be able to have the family we want in this
01:36:49.940
So that doesn't make me question of who we are.
01:36:52.420
So, I mean, I've seen, like, the image of the Project 2025 thing.
01:36:59.540
It appears to me that it's framed from the point of view of Democrats, and is it actually
01:37:07.920
I read the actual document that was written by the Heritage Foundation.
01:37:12.720
I read it with a guide that helped me go through it, because it's obviously on the pages, but
01:37:17.980
But is it something that was put out by the Trump administration?
01:37:22.060
It's put out by the Heritage Foundation, which has donated how much money to Trump, and J.D.
01:37:26.940
Vance literally is one of their leaders, who's now Trump just selected?
01:37:29.980
First of all, Trump already disavowed it, right?
01:37:31.660
Trump disavowed it and said he didn't know anything about it, when the man he selected
01:37:34.520
as his vice president is literally one of the authors.
01:37:43.840
If you guys haven't read Project 2025, I actually feel like I'm the most edict.
01:37:48.400
Okay, then why did you just say it came from the point of Democrats when it was written by
01:37:52.360
I said the Heritage Foundation is a conservative think tank, and Trump,
01:37:59.200
He already said, no, there's already aspects of this I don't like, which I wish he wouldn't
01:38:06.940
Vance was assisting in the authorship of it does not demonstrate that Trump knew a damn
01:38:12.260
Why would Trump pick someone who was an author?
01:38:15.260
You think that if Trump was trying to figure out who his running mate was, he wasn't going
01:38:25.240
I know you're not, because you're not educated on it, but I recommend getting educated on
01:38:30.180
Well, but what I've seen is a lot of sharing on social media.
01:38:39.340
Don't just look at social media posts from random liberals.
01:38:58.440
That would literally mean that me and my fiance can't have our children the way we want.
01:39:04.000
If you guys want to have a political debate, we will invite you guys to have back.
01:39:10.740
You guys can come, and then we can flesh out all that stuff in detail.
01:39:16.260
I was a journalist in this town, and I spoke on a roundtable talk show in this town.
01:39:27.580
If you guys are down, we could have both of you on the panel, and it could be a one
01:39:34.480
Brian's like, stop the steal of this live stream.
01:39:51.260
We can have a dedicated debate on specific political things in a dedicated debate.
01:40:03.120
So, I just don't want the majority of the show ate up by Trump, Biden, Vance.
01:40:16.880
Grid One, I'm going to get you in here in just a sec.
01:40:19.140
And we have, Tony, I'm not going to pull it back up because of your name, but you did
01:40:42.840
Well, how would, how would your political views not have to do with dating though in
01:40:55.400
So, raise your hand if you feel like you owe reparations.
01:41:02.140
If you feel like you do or that the state wants to do.
01:41:10.520
But like, are you, are we defining, are we defining.
01:41:15.440
Are we defining reparations by some payment or are we defining reparations by what we were
01:41:20.380
talking about earlier, which is however you want to word it, but dismantling whiteness?
01:41:28.820
But like, if you're dismantling whiteness and you're actively every day trying to think
01:41:34.360
in an anti-racist way, I believe that is a form of paying reparations because I'm working
01:41:43.380
How about we just, show of hands, who would owe reparations?
01:41:58.100
By working on my, my, my perspective and shifting my perspective and trying, because as a, honestly,
01:42:05.660
as a lesbian, there's like certain ways that I don't have privilege.
01:42:08.720
And then as a white woman, and there's ways I do.
01:42:11.240
And so like when I, even spaces where my privilege can be used for, for good, that is paying
01:42:17.680
It's like not sitting quiet in this situation right now and saying, I don't want to look
01:42:23.700
I'm saying what I believe because that's my way of paying reparations.
01:42:39.440
Even if I disagree with you at times, this chick has.
01:42:49.840
Women can support women even if they disagree with one another.
01:42:52.160
And that's what feminism is, is we support each other.
01:43:06.660
And I saw through why my emotional like look at things was not just how it was.
01:43:12.120
Like, oh, gay people this, all gay people that.
01:43:23.420
Should people be able to do in vitro fertilization?
01:43:39.140
I'll get real personal, but I think it's relevant.
01:43:44.100
It doesn't, it doesn't not exist there anymore.
01:43:46.720
You have to be able to get an abortion before like eight to nine weeks.
01:43:51.200
I know because I've had two and I hate my life for it.
01:43:54.400
I don't know if half the women that have gotten abortions ever would do it again.
01:44:03.860
Now, the people who support the right to get an abortion, why do so many of the girls
01:44:12.260
But why are you fighting for this woman's, like any, any woman or any women to get one
01:44:31.700
I've wanted to be a mother since I was two years old.
01:44:35.540
I had to have an abortion because the situation I was in as a teenager being abused and being
01:44:41.280
threatened with homelessness if I kept the baby, I had no choice.
01:44:44.360
And I'm not going to say I regret it because I don't know where I'd be today if I moved
01:44:48.540
But I can tell you, motherhood is extremely valuable to me.
01:44:58.460
And so that's why if any other woman in this society, if they want to be childless cat ladies,
01:45:02.480
I'm going to applaud them and support them all the way through.
01:45:04.520
If they want to have a baby like me, I also am going to do that.
01:45:07.280
And I'm going to support them having a baby in whatever means they want to do so.
01:45:18.760
One of them is a lesbian and the other one is a trans man.
01:45:26.320
The other one is my best friend that I made as an adult.
01:45:29.320
If I would have had the kid that I, you know, wanted to, but I just, it's just my stupid brain
01:45:36.640
No one forced me to do it, but I should have, I wanted to give them the kid.
01:45:41.020
Because I don't think that, you know, they're great with kids.
01:45:49.180
So what about the fact when people don't know they're pregnant that early?
01:46:05.480
I took about 10 tests for two, three months that came up negative.
01:46:12.280
Has anybody, has anybody here not had an abortion?
01:46:21.600
But the majority of women who have abortions have actually already have a live child.
01:46:26.660
It's because they, they don't have the financial capacity.
01:46:29.080
They don't have the emotional support to take on another child.
01:46:32.340
But the vast majority of people who have abortions are not childless.
01:46:35.080
They already have children and it's extremely hard decision for them.
01:46:43.400
And why bring a baby into this world that is unwanted, ends up in the system, abused,
01:46:53.940
Or, you know what, in either way, either the baby or the mother, they're both victims.
01:46:59.280
No matter how they got pregnant, no one should be forced to stick with that choice.
01:47:04.100
And I don't think I can think of any law that governs anything a man can do with their body.
01:47:10.560
What about, Palma asked that question, actually.
01:47:12.060
She said, name one law that governs a man's body.
01:47:15.860
What else do you guys think of the, you know, counter, every man get a vasectomy?
01:47:28.680
Which, it's fun, it's fun to kind of do mental exercise like that, right?
01:47:36.280
We're governing the body of somebody who's not you.
01:47:41.840
You've got to let me finish if you ask me a question.
01:47:45.820
Because you're looking at the, we're playing God, and it's just a debate of when does it actually count?
01:47:53.680
So, just to answer your question, no, they're not governing your body.
01:47:58.500
They're governing the rights of what is considered to be another human being inside of your body.
01:48:05.660
So, the fact that in Project 2025, it would state that I can't do IVF?
01:48:14.500
So, I'm in the case of, oh, it's murder when it's not even a fully formed human with thoughts.
01:48:22.880
Why does that fetus's life matter more than the woman who's carrying it?
01:48:32.100
Especially if it's coming to a woman who is unable to take care for that child.
01:48:36.720
What kind of life is that fetus going to go through when they are breathing and speaking and thinking and to come into this world and know that they're not wanted or they suffer in poverty?
01:48:52.980
Not shocked at all, this panel is cool with murdering children.
01:49:04.520
It makes me laugh and make me so grateful to be who I am.
01:49:07.960
But I do think that the aftercare for abortions is not a thing and that it's not something because I wasn't prepared.
01:49:26.080
No, I was in person, but I was less than eight weeks.
01:49:33.460
I had time, I had time to think about it, but I was homeless right after.
01:49:37.540
So, I'm asking because, like, you didn't go home and you did pass the miscarriage.
01:49:44.180
And people don't talk about the trauma that you go through.
01:49:47.300
I don't want to talk about it because I'm ashamed of myself for it.
01:49:55.940
And I'm going to be honest that when I decided, that was the first decision I ever made that
01:50:02.260
So, it made me feel like, okay, I wish I could change for this person and I wish I could be
01:50:09.440
I would have done adoption stuff, but I wasn't in the place.
01:50:15.020
I have PMDD, so when I got pregnant, I was crazy.
01:50:20.160
We're going to incorporate the abortion conversation into tomorrow's show.
01:50:38.180
I thank you guys for letting me be able to talk about that, by the way, because no one
01:50:40.960
in my life knows about it, because I'm not going to talk about it.
01:50:48.700
So anyway, really quick, I did want to go into one thing really quick, but we are going
01:51:03.220
What's a way in which men don't have rights over their body?
01:51:12.000
Is there any law that prevents you from doing something you want with your own body?
01:51:15.800
I actually have two that kind of relate to bodily autonomy.
01:51:24.500
She brought it up and then I said Kamala asked that identical question.
01:51:28.700
I can't think of a single body or a single law that would prevent you from doing what
01:51:35.740
I feel passionately that circumcision should be a choice as well.
01:51:38.300
I'm in a position that there is no way that a man lacks bodily autonomy.
01:51:44.100
I think if you wanted to do literally anything you want with your body, I don't think anyone
01:51:56.180
The only thing I can think of is as an infant, you being circumcised.
01:51:59.580
And that is something I wholeheartedly am against as well.
01:52:12.240
The question that you asked wasn't whether you could do something.
01:52:20.760
The government's not going to stop you from killing yourself.
01:52:22.440
Okay, you've got to not cut me off every time I try to talk.
01:52:28.760
The question which you asked was, can you name a law which governs men's bodies that...
01:52:41.220
There's a law that says you cannot unalive yourself.
01:52:50.760
Do you feel passionate about fighting for your right to kill yourself?
01:52:53.160
Unalive yourself is illegal, I believe, in 40 years.
01:52:54.480
Because I feel passionate about having to ferment children.
01:53:08.100
I mean, while it is not by law a requirement that children are circumcised, feminists constantly
01:53:16.020
make arguments about, while there isn't a law, there's a societal culture that mistreats
01:53:21.640
women in this way or privileges men in this way.
01:53:24.040
So I think circumcision is actually a fantastic argument when it specifically comes to bodily
01:53:31.680
Secondly, there actually is one, so forced military conscription.
01:53:36.780
So all men in the United States, compelled by law, are required to register with a selective
01:53:43.100
service, which in the event of a war would compel them to essentially be cannon fodder in
01:53:50.420
Secondly, even if there wasn't a military conflict, if a man fails under law to register for the
01:53:57.320
selective service, there are significant ramifications to this.
01:54:04.340
They are not allowed to have certain federal jobs, federal careers.
01:54:22.160
I really appreciate you bringing that point up because this is where the point really lies
01:54:28.620
And the difference between you and I is that I would fight till the end for that to not
01:54:32.980
be the case for you guys, but you guys would not fight for me, clearly.
01:54:37.400
I would fight till the end to make sure that's not...
01:54:39.520
Because I completely disagree with that for men.
01:54:43.740
I'll fight till the end for you in that regard.
01:54:58.080
Because I can't tell you how many times I've protected myself.
01:55:11.760
You need to allow people to actually speak instead of just constantly interrupting them.
01:55:21.520
First, you absolutely do need men to protect you.
01:55:24.260
This may be by proxy either through the military or through law enforcement officers.
01:55:28.920
I'm assuming if somebody you know were to be murdered, you would not just protect yourself.
01:55:42.560
If someone you know who got murdered, you'd hope it wasn't investigated?
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I would appeal to law enforcement as a whole, not to specifically men in law enforcement.
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I don't really feel strongly either way at this moment in time about it.
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But I can tell you, if I need protection, if I own a gun, I don't need your muscles.
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Like, you're taking it literally because you can't look at the bigger picture.
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I'm saying that, like, I have always been in a position, and every job I've been in school, everywhere,
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is that there's a man who's in power over me that I have to go to to get better.
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Like, if I have the tools myself, I don't need you because I have to ask you for them.
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You need to stop because you're not allowing me to go point by point on this.
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You made the claim that, well, if I was in your position, I would advocate that men not
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Okay, so I know you live in, like, a fairytale land where, in your world, military conflict
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In your fairytale world, even if women had all the power, held all positions of power,
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perhaps you think that there would not be any military conflicts.
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There would still be military conflicts regardless.
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So you're saying that you would advocate that the draft...
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Yes, what I'm advocating for, because you're right, in anyone's idyllic world, there wouldn't...
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So in my idyllic world, there wouldn't be war, sure, but I know war is a necessity.
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I'm not saying that we can't survive without war, but I'm saying that the people who participate
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in that war should be able to choose, whether they're men or women.
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If I have a son, I don't want to know that he's going to be taken against his own will.
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Like, I feel strongly about protecting my sons equally as my daughters.
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It's almost a waste of time to have a conversation of trying to get rid of the draft, because the
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government will never relinquish its ability to call upon its citizenry in a situation or
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scenario where the country needs to essentially force its citizenry into the defense of the
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The government, whether you're a Democrat or Republican, will never relinquish this power.
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So, assuming that, you can agree that there's no scenario where the draft will never exist.
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In the society that we've built, that's what I'm saying, is a lot of shit in the society
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needs to be dismantled, dude, because it doesn't work.
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But there's different ways to go about it, is my point.
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But is the way we're doing it currently satisfying everyone?
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And that's what is the issue here, is I love this country, and I want to make it better.
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I'm saying there's flaws with it, and I want to help improve it.
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But so you're saying, I would advocate for you guys, but you guys won't advocate for me.
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There's no scenario where the government is going to relinquish their right to draft the
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So then, wouldn't you agree that perhaps in this situation, women should also be subject
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Either everyone gets to choose or no one gets to choose.
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But despite 100 years of equality when it comes to voting, women still are not obliged
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And so because of this, that is precisely one example in which men don't have bodily autonomy.
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So you're not actually addressing my argument here.
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You're just saying, well, I would advocate that men should not be drafted.
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But I'm telling you currently, as a rebuttal to your point of men don't have bodily autonomy,
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What about, we know mental health sucks in this country for everyone, men, women, children,
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But when the military does drafts, I know they don't take people with bipolar, BPD, all
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So if we're going to like compare the two between abortion rights and being drafted for
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the military, what about women who have severe mental deficits, who struggle to live day to
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day, who necessarily in the drafts wouldn't be drafted, but are still forced to carry a
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child that they mentally or physically are incapable of caring for completely.
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I mean, I would assume that if you have some severe mental incapacity, whether you're a
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man or a woman, this would preclude you from volunteer service and a draft.
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But I mean, women, when it comes to abortion rights, right, people who suffer from bipolar,
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all these mental fucking illnesses that make it not only hard to function as like a day-to-day
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person, but as a full parent who is responsible for another living being.
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Why would they be forced to carry that child to term if they found out they were pregnant
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So just to summarize this, make sure I'm not straw manning this, what you're saying
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Men lose their autonomy this way and women lose their autonomy this way.
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But the exemptions that men get is that if they have mental health issues, they don't
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But women, if they have mental health issues, would still have to bear the child.
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So what I would say to this is, okay, fair enough, but you do realize that draft standards, how
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they're set, are actually designed to be lowered instantly by necessity.
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I'm sure if they need soldiers, they're going to be like, oh, he's a little fucked up.
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In fact, they will lower the IQ standards significantly.
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And so now your, your BPD, this and that, oh, you got some medication that'll help you
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So essentially these things will be removed via necessity.
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So it's not a disqualifier from you getting drafted even with mental illness.
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But not completely, but they don't have that standard for pregnant women.
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I mean, I have really quickly one thing on this and I'll pass it back to Andrew.
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Um, so when it comes to the draft that you'd be forced to do that by the government, the
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government isn't forcing you to have sex, to have sex.
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No one's forcing you, but there is a bit of a differentiation.
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I feel like on the topic of sex, I feel like people have made sex such a taboo subject when
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And if everyone's behaving and having sex in a healthy way, everyone's getting tested properly.
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They're communicating what they have, if they have anything, what partners they've had.
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And I don't, I don't feel like sex is something that people should be ashamed of.
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Yeah, but I'm not sure how sex being natural, uh, negates the fact that it's a choice where
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And pregnancy usually is an entailment of choice.
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So women who carry pregnancies via essays, for instance, those are outliers.
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Uh, most pregnancies are not, it does, unless I'm not disputing it, I'm just saying that
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that's not the vast, overwhelming majority, not even close.
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Uh, so taking this into consideration, even if they were to make the essay exemption, oh,
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you were essayed, fine, then you can have the abortion.
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The exemption on the draft, there's still no choice.
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Whereas the sex is a choice, which leads to the, to the pregnancy.
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Uh, I think the problem isn't the people, it's the government who wants to tell us what
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Not the fact that, oh, men have these privileges and men have this and that.
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The government set that up, not each individual person.
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We are merely here existing in this country based off what we've been taught and told and
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learned through thousands of years of translated scripts.
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Yeah, but you have a representative government.
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But are they really representing every single person in this country?
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Well, I mean, but that would be in the realm of impossibility regardless of the government
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That's why I feel every person should have the right to choose what they want to do with
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You can't do something else, something to someone else that's, you know, murder, you're
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killing them, uh, not respecting boundaries, consent, all this shit.
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Well, do you mind if I test this, test this logic real quick?
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When, when they reach an adult stage, they should be able to do what they want, right?
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So your kid runs into your room, pulls out a heater, puts it up to their head and says,
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I mean, at that point, that's someone you would need to get help for.
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I don't think any logical, normal person, any logical person who isn't going through
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So they, so not everybody should have the right to do whatever they want then?
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You would offer them help by not letting them do that first.
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You would do whatever you could so that they put the heater down and didn't do it
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That's exactly what Christians are trying to do for you.
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Because as someone who grew up in religion and a toxic, toxic.
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I did not celebrate my birthday, Christmas, nothing for the majority of my childhood.
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And the man who damn near beat my mother into submission to join him in this cult justified
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I know I can't, you guys mentioned we can't say the word on here, but it starts with, yeah.
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The beacon to the panel, point to a heteronormative, cisgendered white male of privilege who owes
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I guess, I guess, I guess that's the big guy here.
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You know what is interesting, though, about the abortion debate is how dudes aren't brought
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It's always like, if a woman gets pregnant, it was your choice to have sex, da, da, da.
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And it's like, bro, is this Mother Mary Immaculate Conception?
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I think he's saying now that she's pregnant, he's very much involved.
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I think conversations like this, debates like this, instead of it being among women, bring
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And I think that the reality is, like, again, like, all of these topics, most people actually
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And it's not an extreme of, you're a murderous baby killer or-
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And, you know, and by, and someone mentioned that Roe v. Wade is gone.
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And I don't know if you, most of you guys probably know this.
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It just wasn't codified, right, on the federal level.
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But, you know, I think voting and, you know, democracy, man, that's-
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What if a man wants the kid, but she wants an abortion?
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You don't see things as black and white, and I don't think you should just look at-
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That's not your- it is your body, but that's someone else's kid.
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And that's why I think there should be more resources for people to get through pregnancy
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and be able to give the child away if they want to do that.
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Well, the father primarily wanted to take care of it, you know, and the mother-
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But there has to be both- you know what I mean?
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At the root of all this, and Andrew said it before he got up, but it really is-
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When it comes down to it and boils down to it, it really is a religious debate.
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I think after, you know, a certain amount of time, it shouldn't be until term.
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I recently had a debate with a very pro-life, you know, Christian conservative, and they truly
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So, I can- I disagree, but again, I can respect his- that's his point of view, is his point
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So, you know, I think a lot of this boils down to that and the morality of that.
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That's one freedom we do have is freedom of religion, and everyone reserves the right
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to practice their own religion without forcing it on anyone else.
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If you want to have a country where you have a representative government, then the government's
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going to have to represent the will of the people.
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If the major will of the people, the majority block of people are religious, they have every
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right to put people in systems of government power who share their religious views.
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Then why does it say separation of church and state?
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It doesn't say separation of church and state anywhere in the Constitution.
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So, Christians are the superior and most valued people and no one else's religious rights.
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Well, you did, because you were like, we're doing you a favor.
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Just like she's doing her kid a favor, she's superior to him?
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But you're not giving me support in making choices for me because of your religion.
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That's your right to choose to practice Christianity.
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Unless he come in and do that, then you're going to try to stop him.
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So you're changing your answer and you would just let your kid-
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Because I never said I would physically stop them.
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I said I would talk to them and give them the support they need to help them.
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In a perfect world where I had to come to that decision, if my child is suffering that much,
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There's assisted medical suicides in other countries right now.
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I hope to raise a child who isn't that broken from the society or things that have happened to him,
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But if my child is fucking suffering, suffering, their brain, whatever is wrong, they physically cannot take living.
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Who am I to tell them, you can't do that because I'm going to hurt?
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I feel like you guys are comparing apples and oranges.
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So, anyway, so to dive into this, you have just described, right, every mother consoling their
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son or daughter after a horrific breakup where they're so emotionally in pain they just can't take it
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and they don't see an end to the suffering in sight and they feel like it's going to last forever.
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But you say, no, my intuition, this is going to stop one day.
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It might not actually stop one day, but you just intuitively make that decision for them, don't you?
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So, if you want to unalive yourself over this right now, I'm going to fucking stop you, right?
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I mean, I'm not going to tell him what he can and can't do.
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Am I going to tell him that I would be fucking, I would be a mess.
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I don't know if I could continue on without my child being there.
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It's been 18 weeks of just agonizing, suffering for them emotionally because Mrs. Wright left him.
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And he's right in front of you and he says, you know what, mom?
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And he pulls out that heater up to the head, right?
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That's what he wants and you're going to respect that?
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That's just like grandiose stuff that is out of my control.
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You're going to do everything you can to stop that.
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But why do you or anyone who identifies as Christian think they know what is best for
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For the same reason that you think you know what's best for that 18-year-old.
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Regardless of if I knew you or didn't know you, I know what is moral and what is not moral.
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Your argument, and you're entitled, of course, to your views, is predicated on the fact that
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a fetus is a full-blown human living being, right?
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But people out there, whether you like to hear it or not, disagree with you.
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I'm acting like we're having an argument, which is, by its nature, a disagreement.
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Grid, we will still get to yours that came in a while ago.
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Wish Kristen Stewart, should men be able to choose to not pay child support, or is it
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Sad that there are so many degenerates that think this is okay, among other things.
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Should men be able to choose to not pay child support?
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On the topic of how you mentioned earlier that men should also have a say in this, because
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it didn't take just one person to create that life.
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But should men start paying child support from the date of conception, if they are going
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to keep it, since you want to consider this child alive?
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Well, you can't answer a question with a question, so.
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Yeah, it's a valid question, but I basically answered it.
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Well, do you think men should pay child support?
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But also, do you think, should they pay child support while the woman's pregnant?
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So, to answer the actual question, though, should men be able to choose to not pay child support?
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There's many people who don't pay child support.
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Can you just sit for the rest of this question?
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My son's father doesn't pay child support, and I don't request him to.
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I've taken care of my son from the day he was born by myself.
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You do know that you could compel him through the government to pay child support, though.
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But for people who are unable, that, again, circles back to people below poverty line being forced to have kids.
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So then now they're being compelled still to pay child support, right, just based on what the woman choosing to keep the kid.
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Okay, so then by your logic earlier, you said the government should stay at the hell out of this.
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If that is true, if you take your kid against the man's wishes, right, the child is born, shouldn't the man then be able to opt out of paying the support?
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If they want to opt out of paying for it, let them opt out.
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I think that just speaks more on the character of the man.
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So in other words, would you agree then that, okay, if men made a compromise, you can have abortions if we can opt out of child support?
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All right, so going around the table, should men be able to choose to not pay child support?
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I think that women and men, if they, if either or doesn't want to keep it and they choose, we have the option to not choose, then the government should step in and help either or who wants to support that child.
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Because that's, if they want to force them to have the kids, they should.
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Yeah, I do think, but I also have been around men who have gotten child support from women and who have struggled with that.
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So I think that it should, it's an equality thing to me.
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I, if you don't want to choose to have a kid, then that's fine.
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But I think that the government instead, if it wants people to have kids and support women in that way, should step in if we're doing that.
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If you could make a deal tomorrow between Republicans and Democrats, and the deal was that, okay, you cannot any longer govern our bodily autonomy.
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It's our right now to choose whether or not we have children or not.
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And they countered with, okay, as long as it's the right of men to opt out of ever having to support that child.
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I think I would need to see where it goes, but I would.
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I don't want anyone to be in a position that they don't consent to, whoever you are, whatever gender or whatever.
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I think that they should have the decision to decide if they want to pay a child for or not then.
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Yeah, we should all be able to choose what we want to do.
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So if you don't want to have a baby and you're a man and the woman's choosing to keep it, you shouldn't have to be financially responsible.
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That also means that you don't get rights to the child, though.
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If the woman's like, I don't want my body to expand.
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I don't want to give birth or possibly have a C-section, which is a major surgery.
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Like, if I don't want to do those things, tough shit.
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Especially if you guys fucked with the intention of just fucking.
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If you guys didn't say, like, I want to make a baby and it was an accident, either person should be able to say, this wasn't what I signed up for and be able to opt out.
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You know, I don't have a clean, I don't have kids.
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You know, the woman just doesn't come up with it on her own.
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So I feel like it would make sense that they have an obligation.
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If it's an instance where the woman wants it and he doesn't, well...
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I feel like that would be then her responsibility.
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Okay, so men should be able to choose to not pay child support.
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Yes, if the government is forcing them, the government should pay.
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Okay, in a scenario where women have the right to have an abortion,
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should men be able to choose to not pay child support?
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it's very, like, communication is very important.
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then, yeah, he should have the option to not want to pay child support.
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My friend in high school, he and this girl had relations.
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And she was supposed to give the kid up for adoption, though.
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He still had to go through a lot just to get his rights,
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like, remove his rights, like, just give up his rights.
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So it's not that easy to just give up your rights for that.
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But I think he should have been able to just give up his rights.
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Now, for you guys, because your answers were interesting,
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I would definitely take that deal where they could opt out
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and then that the woman could go ahead and have the child.
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if there was no government assistance for women?
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because I would hope that community is enough sometimes.
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so I'm not able to say what I think should happen.
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because if you think of more little nuanced examples,
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But, like, when you have a man the whole pregnancy going,
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maybe she would have chosen to have an abortion
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So there's so many nuances in different situations
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can choose what they want to do with their life.
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and they were banging every single day unprotected.
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At the baseline, you have to draw the line somewhere.
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We're talking about extracting support from him.
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but sending a check is some level of helping parenting.
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I don't think they should have their checks garnished.
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Woman complain of men-man planning all the time.
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let's just give him the same nine month grace period,
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but then could not compel a man to support them,
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your opinion nope i can demonstrate it i i mean
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obese man who is broke i've dated both and i don't
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care you don't care at all it doesn't matter what if one's in the military and one's not in the military with my track record and you know how men in the military i've experienced i would choose the one not in the military okay so you're making a value judgment you're comparing one man to the other and making a determination i prefer men who x
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the comparison would you prefer to date a virgin or a man who has sexual experience
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whoever's going to treat me better doesn't matter who's sexually experienced that's an insane no i'm not gonna oh are you a virgin i want to date you that's well let's assume they would both treat you well
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you don't try and both out you don't see who see who see who i vibe with better so can i ask you another question then so then uh does one's skill in the bedroom doesn't matter at all like if someone's bad and dead doesn't matter
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no because i'm good okay i mean that's a fair response i suppose um nick pull it back up because i just wanted to uh see the full context of it i hate to interrupt i am wondering how long this goes though because we i do have animals we have three animals at home i kind of want to feed them yeah and sleep so if you're like i don't want to be quitters like i don't want to come off that way i'm just genuinely exhausted we have three animals so we we have definitely
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some more stuff to get through with we wanted to react to like some of luna stuff um honestly it's going to be a lot of luna stuff so
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just to be courteous to you since yeah you guys didn't pre-plan this maybe you're hungry and stuff
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um if you guys want to if you guys want to depart oh what should we do the last the last question
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big sass energy donated two hundred dollars her list is really men who prefer not to have sex with
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her her lists include they're lining up typically are of higher value so she has a proclivity to go
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interesting um so for you two uh are you guys interested i don't know if it would be both of
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you or just you uh would you be interested in coming perhaps tomorrow for the a more uh formal
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one-on-one debate i i kind of am but i also i would like liza and i'd be able to talk about it not
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on camera because i it's our last day off together before the work week starts again and i don't know
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i mean we need to go grocery shopping and i kind of want to do life shit but i i i would not be i want
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to make sure we can talk about it it's not seven hours again i think we'd be willing the one-on-one
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debates would be much shorter if they're much shorter than hell yeah i live a three-minute
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walk from here i'm going to walk home right now what makes you think sorry to get anywhere near
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my vagina sorry i'll have you to take their seats but thank you guys so much for coming yeah we
06:22:31.940
appreciate it it was great although we disagreed although we disagreed i thought you guys were
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fantastic guests yeah we appreciate you guys coming thanks for joining do you want an applesauce for
06:22:39.860
the road we got we never finished the tacos we bought on the way to meeting you guys so i'm
06:22:46.760
going to go home and eat that that's commitment but i really yes thank you thank you guys for
06:22:50.380
coming thank you guys we'd love to um so can i see can i get my phone i did check out well hold
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on uh can you hang tight here it's a little too many people up at once so see if walk home it goes
06:23:02.260
can you guys take their seats please um wait so andrew could you take over for like two minutes
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okay so so back so the weather no so back to the back to the idea briefly of misogyny
06:23:20.860
and the idea that brian's a misogynist right brian not me but brian is a misogynist right i i would
06:23:29.980
like to actually revisit what you think was stated that it's actually misogynistic
06:23:34.240
i explained them already andrew and even the way and this this is where it gets blurred because
06:23:41.820
is this internal misogyny and contempt for women or is this just kind of being a dick but i felt
06:23:46.200
like the way that you just you guys just approach or sorry brian approach women talk to not gonna
06:23:52.280
lump you in talk to talk to us women talked about women approach women i just found somebody who's
06:23:59.820
not very respectful of women nope let me now slightly let me ask you this okay can you assume
06:24:05.780
for a second that every woman who comes on the show they have a different worldview right of course
06:24:12.860
some women get really upset if you don't treat them just like you would treat men they get really mad
06:24:18.840
about it super mad oh why are you pampering her because right so what i do is this i just treat
06:24:26.740
everybody exactly the same so if there's two to differ so if there's two hang on hang on there's
06:24:33.780
been men on the show that i've i've been on with and i've ripped them to shreds as bad as i do the
06:24:38.020
women that's good from what i've experienced and just from what i've observed here's a perfect example
06:24:43.560
when you and i were having a fun thing brian called out me and not you like taylor stop stop talking and
06:24:49.840
let yeah but you were in the wrong there i wasn't you started it and you know it yeah but you kept
06:24:54.940
going okay so it's you know stuff like that even how you continuously you know cut us off and you
06:25:01.820
know insisted you didn't and again maybe it is just dickish behavior and you do that with dudes too
06:25:06.220
but you know it's just and again i don't know if it's like an act for the show if it's how if it's
06:25:12.840
how you guys are really are in real life like i'd be fascinated to see you with your wife and your
06:25:16.380
girls let me ask you this but do you think when you rewind this do you do you like you're honest
06:25:21.180
i don't plan on it i'm not gonna lie but your honest opinion do you think that we interrupted
06:25:26.320
more or were interrupted more with me or in general here in general uh he didn't as much
06:25:34.600
you did though do you think i interrupted more than i was interrupted uh i feel like you've interrupted
06:25:41.140
at least you did no you did you think so i think so would you be willing to put would you
06:25:46.860
oh we're doing dollars now would you be willing to well i don't is it a reliable news source is
06:25:52.060
it somebody out there will literally put the count up because i they'll put the count up your bias
06:25:57.280
following yeah they'll be put i'm not gonna my ass ain't gonna want you back you can count it i'm
06:26:02.000
not that committed to this call this isn't my following i'm a guest i thought you're a co-host
06:26:06.640
no i'm a guest guest you're one of the producers said you're a regular co-host but you're i'm a
06:26:13.260
regular guest i'm not the co-host of the show not at all i don't know where that idea came from
06:26:19.620
i don't know it all goes to say so here's so here's the thing every time i hear this complaint
06:26:26.060
i think that if you were sitting where i was and there was men who were surrounding you right
06:26:32.740
and each one of them had a different opinion that would be and each one of them wanted to
06:26:37.340
argue with you and engage with you right that if you play the video back and you went wait a second
06:26:43.000
i was actually interrupted way more than i interrupted because it's the only way that you
06:26:47.180
can handle a panel if you if i go back and watch any of your panels you say you've hosted them
06:26:51.120
i've hosted many panels too no fucking way you don't interrupt people it's not even possible
06:26:55.540
yes but you do it at a really knee-jerk it's like you can't even get the thought out like
06:27:00.940
and maybe that's just your personality maybe it's same same for you okay that's fair but i i will
06:27:07.320
again i'm trying to find common grounds here eye to eye i do agree with you in that women you know
06:27:14.600
if they want to go toe to toe they can't get bent out of shape and act like little fragile dandelions
06:27:19.780
right like if a guy is or something like this right challenging them going you know so i get that
06:27:25.180
i'll give you you know validation there because i know you're looking for it i don't know it sounds
06:27:29.220
like you are by calling us misogynists sound like you kind of want us to validate your feelings
06:27:33.920
i actually could give you want us to be like no we're not the misogynists no i could give i don't
06:27:38.220
care what you guys being or not being misogynists have literally nothing to do with my life all
06:27:43.060
right where were we you guys just got back into misogyny things he did it we were at luna so i need
06:27:50.380
to find something to talk about for two minutes right so uh back to the tweets oh the body count thing
06:27:57.400
we were talking about the body count thing wait so body count doesn't matter right no
06:28:02.080
into the mic if you can uh no if it doesn't matter if it doesn't matter what's your body count
06:28:09.900
i lost count a long time ago but just know i'm tested enough to know that i'm safe and healthy
06:28:16.700
about it which i can't necessarily say for a lot of people watching so you're right you know we
06:28:22.640
actually did a poll the other week and like i think 77 of our audience has
06:28:27.060
general words i believe it it's been it's been i am just kidding i thought you were going to
06:28:35.260
our series with only jade we did a survey yeah exactly um so i mean do you have a range that would
06:28:40.580
explain a lot though brian do you have a range i'm kidding they are all perfectly clean and have
06:28:46.340
giant penis every single one they all have they all have a woman's vagina with the way they talk
06:28:54.560
but my body count if you really want to know yeah i mean probably past a couple hundred couple
06:29:00.280
hundred okay like 200 300 like pokemon catch them all we're still are we back on the stds or are we
06:29:08.300
i love dick i like experiencing all kinds of dick one is better than the other one all of them at
06:29:18.880
the same time i love being a fucking whore i love being a slut i love fucking on camera it's so fun
06:29:24.980
but the point is like who fucking cares like exactly it's back to the double standard that's fine it's
06:29:30.540
back to the double standard they reserve the right it's it's to think however they think about me
06:29:35.600
biological whatever it says about their characters it's by them yeah but me personally i really don't
06:29:42.920
care if you think i'm worthless if you think i'm low value if you think i don't deserve love if you
06:29:48.660
think i'm dirty i really don't give a fuck because neither of you pay my bills and majority of the
06:29:55.280
people watching are the same ones who log off here and go home and jack off to me and my friends
06:30:00.880
so i don't jerk off to tattoo porn sorry well that's fine maybe not you but
06:30:06.300
i was trying but the same people the same people who want to devalue me and people in my industry are
06:30:15.580
the same people consuming it at the same time and it's it i actually you don't have to like us you
06:30:23.900
don't have to approve of us that's fine you go be a christian you live with your christian values
06:30:30.360
because you have that right just like i have the right to be a slut and i'm going to i mean i actually
06:30:36.180
and my mom always said my mom always said when you're good at something never do it for free hey
06:30:40.940
you know what it's back to again there's a long standard guys do it that's like oh they're the
06:30:45.180
man oh yeah no god oh they're a lady man they can have all oh they get all the ladies but a woman
06:30:53.040
is sexy and gets a bunch of men oh she's a slut she's a whore yeah so i mean i actually i actually
06:31:01.140
like this argument um so i i guess i would agree with you that there's really nothing wrong with
06:31:07.240
tobacco companies because the people who criticize them are often the smokers
06:31:11.200
right everything gives you everything nothing wrong i mean same thing how dare an alcoholic
06:31:18.200
you know criticize a company which mass produces alcohol
06:31:21.660
yeah that's i mean that would be hypocritical right i mean people make the choice to drink
06:31:28.860
can you imagine if a guy can you imagine if a dude was in the hospital bed dying from lung cancer
06:31:34.740
from having smoked his entire life criticizing tobacco companies for making a highly addictive
06:31:39.400
product that they got addicted to what a son of a bitch he would be a hypocrite right what a piece
06:31:44.580
of shit he would be for doing how does that have to do with you criticizing me what i do for work
06:31:48.680
i'm sorry i'm sorry is is pornography highly addictive i mean what isn't addictive social media video
06:31:56.940
games that's an obfuscation people like this an obfuscation is pornography highly addictive can be
06:32:02.740
not always not well no smoking isn't always addictive is it give is it gives it the fact
06:32:09.160
that like oh it's definitive that's a definitive answer it's not definitive for everyone okay it's
06:32:14.340
neither smoking yeah yeah so so again so then we're back to the same criticism if a guy is dying of lung
06:32:19.800
cancer and he's criticizing a tobacco company okay for making this highly addictive product he's a
06:32:25.560
fucking piece of shit and he's to shut up right so you want to criticize porn stars because
06:32:29.340
something's wrong with someone's dick how is that i'm sorry is it okay for the guy dying of lung
06:32:34.620
cancer to criticize the tobacco company for making the highly addictive product that they became
06:32:40.100
addicted to or is it not okay for them to do that i mean what was it not their conscious decision to
06:32:47.220
use that addictive product knowing it was not to become addicted to it uh but that's a risk you take
06:32:54.260
all right that's a risk you take so then it's perfectly acceptable then right for the tobacco
06:32:59.980
companies to be like shut the fuck up and die you smoked
06:33:02.680
right okay is porn killing people just answer my question is that okay or not
06:33:09.460
that's subjective yeah i'm asking for your subjective yes who of course it is if you become highly
06:33:17.100
addicted to pornography it can destroy your sex life leads to higher suicide rates all sorts of things
06:33:22.400
like this okay so yes i would say yes people people definitely so due to that video games should
06:33:28.100
video games be banned well whether they should people could whether they should or they shouldn't
06:33:32.320
it's your criticism not my criticism okay i'm not saying uh for instance that people aren't allowed
06:33:38.320
to criticize the porn industry because they watch pornography that would be insane for my take
06:33:43.360
because people criticize things there's which are they're addicted to often and we seem to give
06:33:48.200
them a pass on that oh you want to criticize the tobacco company because you're dying of lung cancer
06:33:52.060
because you were addicted to cigarettes who said that's fine right if you want to do that with
06:33:55.520
alcohol that's fine you want to do it with heroin that's fine you want to do it with drugs that's
06:33:58.580
fine but somehow in this particular addictive industry hey you know what those motherfuckers out
06:34:03.880
there those fuckers out there they're the same people who watch me they are yeah and there are not
06:34:11.460
porn itself is a very taboo industry and it's put in people in the industry and who support the
06:34:20.100
industry i have put in so much work to make sure this industry is safe for the people in it all the
06:34:27.120
advances porn hub has taken to make sure that there isn't videos of children and yeah i'm sure that
06:34:34.940
tobacco companies have all sorts of regulations to keep their employees safe it's the external factors
06:34:40.080
that matter who are you affecting outside of your company so if porn was to go away right in with your
06:34:46.320
logic uh since porn is just damaging all these people if porn was to go away and all the not all
06:34:52.560
every man because i know y'all love to do that a man who has the tendencies or the needs to sexually
06:35:04.700
violate women do you not think porn gives them a healthy avenue so they don't take it out on women
06:35:11.460
you don't think there would be more attacks against women in fact i think that i think that
06:35:16.060
just disappear i think that because corn for instance in this in this instance they make
06:35:21.500
corn specifically tailored to that fetish it actually enables men to live that fantasy out
06:35:27.240
and without harming anyone and no because many of the people who get caught inside of those acts when
06:35:32.960
asked why did you get involved in these acts oh i took it from fantasy to visualization through corn
06:35:38.540
and then i begin to carry out personally anyone i know who does prefer that genre isn't actually
06:35:46.460
looking at that genre and they're actually distributing very illegal cp like i definitely
06:35:55.040
have to move on now all right if you want to get on the topic i mean i'd love to talk about it but
06:36:00.180
but it's fine okay um nick let's do the next tweet next tweet next tweet uh men are pathetic bro
06:36:12.640
lmao yes this was after a man um i can give you the you know this this was after a man who got caught
06:36:23.220
lying to me and another girl and another girl tried to save his ass by saying i sexually harassed and
06:36:30.980
assaulted him which is why he fucked me which we both know is a lie that's where that tweet came
06:36:37.300
from yeah so he's that man is a bad man but you kind of just said men plural all essentially my
06:36:48.700
apologies for not using his full legal name i'm deep i'm super offended wait pull it back up nick
06:36:53.680
men are pathetic bro like that's kind of like like if men said women are pathetic wouldn't wouldn't
06:37:01.600
that be that but i've do you know not you specifically sure yeah some men say it but can you just i don't
06:37:09.740
know if you're able to scoot into the table a little bit just so we can get you closer to the microphone
06:37:12.700
um so wouldn't it be like misogynistic to say women are pathetic like would that be misogynistic
06:37:23.240
if you want to label me a misandrist that's fine are you are you a misandrist sometimes i
06:37:29.200
can lean that way yeah and you you don't think that's like a defect you don't think you're
06:37:36.480
bigotry is a defect i mean well i don't consider myself a misogynist
06:37:44.400
you seem to have no qualms with in some instances considering yourself a misandrist which i find
06:37:52.740
i have troubling i suppose well you that's fine you can find it troubling like however i have with my
06:37:58.980
personal experiences very troubling so traveling my personal experiences i have more have had more
06:38:08.160
bad experiences with men than good so if you want to go off my personal experience a lot of the men
06:38:15.340
i've met have been inherently vindictive evil violent sexual predators you know it's a lot in my
06:38:25.120
experience you know i don't i don't know it's not every man that's super definitely not every man
06:38:29.240
that's super weird though because then why would you go into an industry say you love being in the
06:38:34.280
industry of of of engaging with these violent predatory men because in this industry yeah unlike
06:38:44.360
the day-to-day lives you guys live the men in our industry actually love us support us and uplift us
06:38:52.140
and fight for us okay um okay next tweet try to get through there's quite a few so
06:39:00.840
actually won't just so it's in your words can i just have you read it yep those men are weak with
06:39:08.020
or without porn weak men don't have shit to do with porn weak men are a result of this country and
06:39:13.700
the patriarchal propaganda shoved down their throats their entire lives banning porn will only
06:39:18.880
make those same weak men lash out with sexual violence against women i think maybe focus on
06:39:23.560
the banning of roe v wade instead of ken's consenting adults who film pornography but i just said make a
06:39:28.540
smaller please because this is in response to candace a candace own's tweets where she says ban
06:39:33.420
pornography it is psychological weapon intended to weaken our men you can put this back i guess that's
06:39:39.620
fine yeah um okay i mean there's a lot there um basically everything i just said in the last
06:39:47.040
couple minutes i'm actually just gonna for the sake of time i'm gonna skip to the next tweet but
06:39:51.900
it was an interesting one i saw uh men in their late 20s out here dating and fucking girls who
06:39:56.700
just practically graduated high school in the last year or two weird or how about you in your own
06:40:02.640
words you you read it go ahead um this tweet in specific i know you guys love to say oh well you
06:40:11.260
said men you didn't specify which man wait can you just read it this is can you just read the tweet
06:40:17.780
men in their late 20s out here dating and fucking girls who just practically graduated high school in
06:40:25.740
the last year or two weird very weird can you hide this for a second and then the follow-up with this
06:40:30.680
bottom one these men be 27 fucking 19 20 year olds like what did y'all possibly have in common
06:40:37.100
okay um i'm just curious though do you have an issue like i know that there's like for example
06:40:42.620
male porn stars who are in their late 20s 30s who get paired up with 18 19 20 year old women for
06:40:51.800
scenes do you have objections there but that man isn't building a relationship with that young
06:40:59.620
naive uneducated girl to try and manipulate her or build her into the perfect woman it's a scene you
06:41:09.380
get paid you leave if she's so young and naive and stupid then why is it that we allow them to do corn
06:41:14.820
at all i mean i don't disagree how can they consent to do that i don't technically in the u.s the legal age
06:41:23.080
but i do think that there's a lot of with the popularity of only fans over the last few years
06:41:30.360
there are a lot of people in this industry who are not built for it they are not mentally
06:41:37.080
strong enough to take all the stuff that comes with the industry all the backlash we receive
06:41:44.480
people don't understand the repercussions of being a porn star and how people are going to view you
06:41:52.220
so so what age should be the entry point for women i feel like 21 plus is where you i feel like you
06:42:01.240
you know you could make that judgment you might still be a little young might still be a little
06:42:06.720
inexperienced but freshly 18 you know that that's a touchy subject i it's a legal age personally i just i
06:42:18.100
for my own personal sites and content i don't work with anyone that i think looks too young or is
06:42:25.200
young i 21 is pretty young 21 is that's what i said they're still they still have a lot to learn
06:42:34.080
but it's not 18 where there's probably still in high school and not even graduated yet they turned 18
06:42:40.920
mid senior year there also are a lot of girls in the industry like not like a lot but i have heard
06:42:47.180
of a few cases of girls have gotten in the industry because they're 18 before they graduate high school
06:42:51.660
and like i honestly personally don't agree with that i think that that shouldn't be like allowed
06:42:57.660
necessarily like in our industry because you mean you know you haven't really figured anything out
06:43:02.020
yet you let alone graduated high school just because you're 18 doesn't necessarily make it
06:43:06.660
okay and with the popularity so yeah so moving it away i guess from the porn stuff bringing it back
06:43:13.400
to the actual complaint which is age gap relationships are icky or you object you object to them it's not
06:43:22.720
all age gap relationships in that situation specifically it was someone who would go after younger girls in
06:43:31.240
the industry because they were just easier to control as in oh we both do porn but you can't do
06:43:39.500
this and this and this i'm sorry to interrupt you but i'm moving away from the porn industry and i'm
06:43:43.940
speaking about that's the only way i can touch on that topic because that's what that tweet and
06:43:49.400
specifically was about i've been in age gap relationships i don't believe there's anything
06:43:54.180
inherently wrong with age gap relationships but i think when a man is older then they have more
06:44:01.940
influence over a younger person who doesn't have as much life experience is it legally wrong no they're
06:44:10.000
all adults but what can a 35 40 year old man really have in common with an 18 year old other than
06:44:19.140
well that's basically it's not so there is an objection there then
06:44:25.720
in certain cases if someone goes into it with malicious intent to try and manipulate or groom
06:44:33.700
this young girl who has zero life experience yeah what i mean once you object to anybody doing that
06:44:40.800
with anybody regardless of age i mean yeah yes i don't know i don't know why that would apply to age
06:44:45.520
gaps exactly do you think it's more likely it's definitely more likely because i mean the older
06:44:51.860
the older women men get the more life experience you have the more you interact with people to
06:44:59.320
recognize when people are being malicious or don't really genuinely value you or care about you but this
06:45:09.240
can occur at any age women it can occur at any age but 18 year old women are more they can they even
06:45:15.980
really be considered full-grown women they're still children they're still it's adult so i would be
06:45:21.900
hang on i would be willing actually to to put an olive branch out here and if it were if you were to say
06:45:30.000
that i don't want to consider women to be adults until they're 22 23 24 25 or men therefore women
06:45:35.860
can't vote until they're 25 uh i would be willing to accept that i feel like when it comes to voting
06:45:43.580
voting voting is anyone can research politics uh current policy research relationships no because
06:45:53.380
it's experience based so is policy so is policy voting you can't see the effect of a vote if you've
06:45:58.040
never voted before that's insane i mean okay fine well i mean isn't it isn't it crazy to say
06:46:02.980
wait i don't know what the effects of the policy will be that i'm voting for but i'm still allowed
06:46:07.980
to vote wouldn't that be the same logic to a relationship no why not just because oh okay
06:46:17.580
enough because i'm exhausted at this point honestly and i feel like we're going in circles
06:46:21.960
and i feel like we just don't agree on anything okay well i mean i frequently hear from women who are in
06:46:30.060
college for example that they don't like a lot of the men that are also in college because they're
06:46:35.860
fuck boys and they get mistreated by the men their own age so i mean i guess when it comes to your
06:46:44.660
objections to age gap relationships would you prefer to see like a 20 year old woman getting like just
06:46:51.040
going from fuck boy the fuck boy the fuck boy who's 20 or 21 i don't necessarily for well let me just
06:46:56.860
finish the question so versus her dating a guy who's 30 who wants who's a good man who wants a
06:47:03.860
monogamous relationship with her who's going to treat her well i mean which scenario would you
06:47:08.560
prefer to see her in i never said i had anything against age gap relationships it's i mean can you
06:47:13.840
pull up the tweet nick you guys are taking it all out of fucking context you say i can't talk about
06:47:19.120
porn but this i mean this in specific was pertaining to some because you are taking something out of
06:47:26.200
context that you don't have information on i mean the tweet is very you brought it up and want me to
06:47:31.280
talk about it so i'm talking about that specific tweet so the position is just that um it's wrong
06:47:37.860
in any type of relationship for there to be manipulation you just think that there's a
06:47:41.460
possibility could be more likely if the age is gapped if the age is gapped yes but you don't actually
06:47:46.260
have a moral objection to it no not necessarily if they're if they're two consenting adults yes but
06:47:53.220
i feel like a man who is older shouldn't use their life experience or wisdom whatever they know
06:48:03.380
i don't even know the right word groom this child manipulate now now we got go on but now we got
06:48:14.820
loaded i'm fucking no we got loaded language between child and adult so it's like are they
06:48:20.020
adults or children i we i literally just said that that 18 year old they can technically by society
06:48:28.340
be considered women but i remember being 18 and i definitely did not feel like an adult i felt like
06:48:36.440
a child who still had so much life experience to earn and learn i mean you still do right yeah yeah
06:48:43.840
so i mean when you're talking about when you're talking about a societal standard for age right for
06:48:49.120
when you're going to consider a person an adult when should we do you think do would you want a 35
06:48:55.100
year old man dating your 18 year old daughter what would be the objection why well i well i can't think
06:49:01.240
of an actual moral objection if he was good to her you said you were in age gap relationships yourself
06:49:06.580
right so you obviously don't have a moral objection either no but but here's the thing here's the
06:49:12.820
child wasn't i'm almost done almost done i was just in the middle middle of the sentence but uh this is
06:49:18.740
like me saying back to you by the way uh would you want your sister to date somebody who's the age of
06:49:24.720
your brother you know what i mean it's nonsensical so you you what you're trying to do is you're trying
06:49:30.420
to impose that because i share a characteristic of whoever uh my daughter's dating whether we had
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blue eyes were the same age or whatever that that therefore is bringing it to some kind of predatory
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level it's not how could it be it doesn't instantly predatory when they seek out inexperienced young
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girls for the for the fact that they are young and inexperienced i'm not that like i don't understand
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how that's a hard concept to grasp well because because i don't go ahead because i'm fucking well
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i was just gonna say it gets dicey right because if 18 is the age of legality and giving consent that's
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where it starts to get you know gray and you know well if someone consents they consent but my my issue
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here is with the use of loaded language so when you say when you try to have it both ways we're adults
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but with you're trying to go after this child it's like uh no a child is somebody who's pre you know
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what i mean child has its own category right so they're either women or they're not women but this
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idea of infantilizing adult women and saying wait they're adults they can do corn they can vote they
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can do everything in the adult world except select their partner that to me is an absurd argument i know
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i agree with you on that i agree look at that but that's because you're in an age gap relationship
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that's because it's common sense and i love what you said of like you know if he treats her well then
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yeah okay i don't know what the moral objection would be i have never heard an actual
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moral objection just well he could use his station to abuse her but it's like okay everybody who's in a
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position a millionaire at 20 who's dating a 19 year old who's not a millionaire can use that position
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to be abusive right you know what i mean so just the age being the age and saying that they could
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doesn't infer that they will a couple more things let's do some chats here we have low paladins
06:51:35.100
maddie can you read it give it five more years and she'll have problems with 25 year old women
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and starting talking about prefrontal cortex okay thank you low paladins we have another one from
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low paladins coming here in just a sec good to see you in the chat paladins thank you man
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it should be coming up here in just a moment go ahead nice tough exterior too bad you are only like
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that because you're you're didn't get enough love when you were a child i don't hate you i feel sorry
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for you don't do me a favor and don't feel anything for me please okay thank you paladins we have one
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more coming in from warlord 69 thank you guys for the stream labs messages appreciate it guys
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gypsy oh what the heck gypsy i prefer my women to be priceless rather than being easily found on the
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internet with their legs oh that's your fucking preference man good for you all right thank you
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warlord so uh really quick why don't you do twitch and then we'll go back to the tweets we got tweets
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tiktoks go ahead nick guys this one also had 69 in their screen name so what a dork what a dork
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wait can you make it a little bigger nick uh guys go to twitch.tv slash whatever drop us a follow drop
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us a prime sub twitch.tv slash whatever there's 1 600 people watching uh if you can just on twitch
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uh i think we all at one point we probably had like 10k concurrent between youtube and twitch but
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guys if you're watching on twitch just drop us a follow if you're watching on youtube open up
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the tab we do twitch exclusive streams guys it's been two minutes since we've had a prime sub
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i think it's bugged can we help help help uh okay thanks guys uh next tweet nick we got more tweets
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while he's getting that we got that that came up boom okay uh bada bing bada boom i'm so ready
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i'm ready nick uh did the body count trend on tiktok and all the oh wait i'm sorry i should just let
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you read it okay go ahead the body count trend on tiktok and all the hating ass prude bitches come
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out the woodworks with their internalized misogyny out the woodworks uh what is the i wasn't familiar
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what's the body count trend i don't remember i don't know how long ago that tweet was you know
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what it was though like the trend do not next then i guess we already talked about body count so go
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ahead nick all those sounds interesting uh i like my bitches oh sorry oh my god i like my bitches to
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be menacing cause some chaos be on hinge set fire shit crazy bitches run the world that's just me
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saying i like aggressive women do you consider yourself one of those
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aggressive women yeah would you i don't i'll know you that well probably a little bit
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probably be right probably a little bit probably a little bit yo guys thank you for all the primes by
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the way uh next tweet uh oh durin thank you for the gifted 10 subs can you read this one yeah um
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christians you know like to say oh christmas easter those were all taken from pagan religions
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no they weren't okay that's fine i don't want to touch on the topic of religion anymore because it'll
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start to get disrespectful from my end and i don't want to get there right now i mean i don't i don't i
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won't take as nearly as much offense at you basing my religion as you would with me just asking basic
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questions about your profession which i never even directly knocked you for being a part of never even
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directly knocked you i just said you did i said only that it's morally compromising
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from my worldview well when i go home and we'll run it back i'll clip it and i'll just say okay why
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don't you just tell me what it was that i said that porn stars don't have high iq seven hours and
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yeah that i don't have a high iq we've been sitting here for seven hours you want me to think back on
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what i said specifically was that i don't generally associate high iq with corn star
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okay yeah sorry okay but no i never did that's all i can never did but the thing is is even if you
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were to go after christianity i'm going to be far less offended by that than you are uh with me going
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after whatever your perceived idea of me assaulting the corn industry is so no you don't have to worry
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about offending me i don't think you're assaulting the corn industry i think you're assaulting the
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person and their value and that's fine well i'm assaulting your values but not your value so your
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two distinct categories here are your value your value of a person stupid or have a low iq because i
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do porn is giving me a low value you don't think you mean me saying i don't generally associate high
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aq with corn stars yes yeah i you know who i don't usually associate high aq with garbage men either
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do you do you do you usually associate like when somebody says he's really smart do you think in
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your head garbage man you know what i know some brilliant people who have worked as garbage men
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what name give me one name of a person you've ever known who's a garbage man um actually i'll give
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you i'll give you a name you're stalling my roommate he's a he was a beautiful brilliant
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physicist out of columbia and now he does doordash that's not a garbage man doesn't matter you said
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you know garbage you can't name one garbage man you want me to go back and name random people who
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obviously don't want to get you said i've known tons you couldn't say jim you couldn't say jim no
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okay fine moving on you've known all sorts of garbage men you can't name any but anyway back here to the
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the christianity of just saying i would be far less offended and so this is the thing is christians
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are conditioned to be far less offended because of how often people i'm sure i grew up in the church
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yeah people with the compromised values attack us but if we say anything back oh you're allowed to
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be as offended as possible you know what it's funny that um you as a christian and other not all
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not all but christians demand respect for their religion without respecting anyone else's
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yeah i mean so the call here is not whether or not we should so i can't i'm i come from
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generational witches and you think there's something wrong with that yeah yeah okay you
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think it's demonic yeah but you think i should respect you for your religious views yes that's
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the fact you even have to ask ask that no i don't think it's insane so it's insane for you to
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judge for me to judge you but you can't judge me yeah so i'll explain why is it insane for you
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love thy neighbor is it insane for you to judge aztecs who cut the heart he who casts the first
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stone is never without is it insane for you to judge aztecs who cut the heart out of people
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and sacrificed it to their son god as part of their religious values are you allowed to criticize
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that no wait all right they can go ahead are we almost done here uh i got we got a couple more
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things uh to react to so uh maddie you want to sit there just temporarily uh okay so uh next tweet i
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guess is there a next tweet uh yeah all right everybody saw that one i think oh there it goes
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do you oh can you read it take it from me do not ever trust a military man they always lie
06:59:02.500
ever trust a dj or athlete before you put your faith into a military man that was that that okay
06:59:14.700
so this military man that i was talking to first time i went on to see him his side girl got an
06:59:22.900
abortion second time i went out to see him his divorce was finalized didn't even know he was
06:59:28.040
married okay and that's just a consistent have you have you dated with men a couple military guys
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yeah i've dated like three army hmm army uh marines air force navy coast guard what do you
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think no one from the navy you should try the navy no thanks give it give it a shot don't knock it
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you haven't that navy guy i'm coast guard space force space force that's a new one give it give it
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a shot space force maybe space force coast guard i hear they're out of this world national guard
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i don't think about it think about it give it a shot next one wait really oh last question
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actually um actually fucking pull okay whatever alex's oh we had two from alex uh really quick
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i i know you said you had a uh you had a previous age gap relationship what was the just curious what
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was the age gap um i was 21 and he was four in his late 40s sorry what's that nick oh yeah i was
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20 21 and he was in his late 40s okay 20 and is that like the only age gap relationship you've had
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or i had another one after that i wasn't it was a smaller gap by maybe 10 years okay all right uh
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next tweet and then we have a video from you coming up oh i got a video from you she's on the edge of
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her seat okay alex can you read this one all right let me hate tweet before the general
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population is awake uh why are all men cheaters uh fuck all men you're all weenies
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damn bro why you gotta gross dude why you gotta throw us under the bus alex i really don't think
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all men are weenies or cheaters i was just really pissed off
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okay i think we're not allowed to no you can keep the split um all right next tweet
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so amen that's funny can't spell i'm bringing tweets i forgot existed for real
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manipulate without man say it louder for the men so what does it what does this mean can't spell
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manipulate without man like i mean you can't spell the word manipulate without man that's true but
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so i guess what are you trying to get at with that like what does i mean that wasn't my tweet i was
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just you know supporting that i don't know i just thought it was funny honestly what does her tweet
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mean can't spell manipulate without man all men are manipulators i guess but i don't want to put
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words in her mouth so you know i can't speak for what she says but you agree with that you agree
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with that sentiment you again i was just like tweeting to be tweeting to be you know i guess
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edgy edgelord that's what they call me okay i'm gonna read a quick thing uh maddie can you read
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this actually corn is a great band but corn as an industry is vile and ruined my sex life and
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previous marriage how can you justify you are helping people when proven to impact then mentally
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negative you you yeah i feel like that's a really personal experience because i'm sorry that happened
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to you but you yeah i have plenty of fans that like talk to me about their personal life and confide
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in me and i need to make a couple adjustments here morgan can you scoot into the table can i have you
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scoot into the table as far as you can just so we can get you guys in frame properly um there i've
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had so many men reach out and tell me they watch my videos with their wife with their girlfriend and
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if anything it boosts their sex life so to think that oh porn is there porn that damages people's lives
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because they have an addictive personality and that's what they happen to be addicted to yes same
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same thing with alcohol same thing with video games same thing with uh shopping addiction same
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thing with speeding there's it all depends on the person yeah but you don't agree that all addictions
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are equal i i personally can be every addiction can next get to a point of ruining someone's life
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oh wait what okay this must have been out of order can you read this one yeah every man that fucks me
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over starts bulging even more so if they were before after coincidence i think not karma it's not a
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karma karma bitch karma doesn't you know what my hair grows and their hair falls off so maybe it's
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the power of jesus are you like are you actually doing something like vindictive to get back at them
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that would cause that i don't have to the karma the universe does like you don't ever take like do
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revenge or anything like that no i will usually is that true you know i don't know how everyone is in
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astrology but i have a saturn in pisces in the 10th house and the 10th house represents the 10th house
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represents um how you are perceived your social status your career all that stuff so when people
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fuck me over all of a sudden their reputation is down the toilet their career is fucking dwindling
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it's not it's not oh statistic you guys want to get on the topic of science this is just what i
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personally believe i was just going to get into the topic of astrology okay so yeah when you're talking
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about the 10th house there's multiple interpretations of what that could mean yeah so i mean even even
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from a magical practitioner standpoint different different types of astrology yeah astrology there's
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vedic there's yeah um sidereal there's a bunch of different kinds i mainly go with sidereal okay okay next
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one i don't know why okay can you read it i love when entitled bootlickers try to punch down onto
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minority people trying to make a living and survive probably typing this shit from his cushy home his
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only response is it's illegal now let's be honest whatever your name is since you're too pussy to show
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your face you don't actually care about the legality of it you just hate seeing minorities trying to live
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if it's not to your liking scroll down the bed neck just so we can see the image she's responding
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to it's about the it's just people who have like someone was assaulting vendors and destroying them
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yeah i mean it's wrong for like some random person to uh to do that certainly sure if everyone wants
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to get on the topic of permits this that yes but did they were they attacked because they didn't have
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a permit or were they attacked because they were a minority well what was the context behind the
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pictures though it was like the hot dog vendors in vegas they were like having issues and they
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were kicking people out and i think one of them got assaulted if i'm correct i remember i think
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it was around f1 yeah when all the f1 stuff was going on around vegas and when f1 got brought to
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vegas and now they got a contract there for 10 years all the small businesses that people no longer
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had access to because there's fucking bleachers everywhere all the businesses that went out of
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business the vendors who can't make any money people are just doing what they can it is to get by the
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vendors though because it's okay it's okay all right um we'll move it on these are getting into tiktok
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okay uh we'll do the tiktoks then go ahead you can pull up the first one
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my queen hey bitches um i'm going on the whatever podcast tomorrow
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hey uh tune in 4 p.m pacific standard time live on their youtube page come watch me argue with some men
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because we all know how much i love doing that so now now now keep it keep it there but on full
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screen it because there was a comment that was interesting um full screen it so you can see the
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comments oh okay there's probably a fix to that but um did you misclick yeah hey bitches hey bitches
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well there i need the comments yeah you can scroll down uh have to scroll down please have to somewhat
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keep my composure so i don't get kicked off but if you see me sitting there cracking my knuckles just
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know i want to jump over that table i'm going to eat them up respectfully which is what i've done
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you you've gotten destroyed on every point what are you talking about and you haven't won a single
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you said it was okay to rip the hearts out of people on temples because you shouldn't judge them
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that's what you said those are people's religious practices and so so human sacrifice is a
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legitimate religious practice to you and we shouldn't judge people religions yes who am i
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to tell people how they can practice their religion what that's what i think you don't understand i'm
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sorry so are we done you don't think we got more are we you're gonna eat me up i thought you're
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eating me up you're a strong woman you can't eat up bigotry oh i can't make arguments i can't make
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you respect me i can't make you respect my i'm just listening for arguments so here's the argument
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do you think it's okay for a religious person i don't know put babies on spikes if they were just
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like ah you know what it's part of our dance to our god we take little babies and we fucking impale
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them are you gonna judge what they're doing right now are you gonna judge them is that what they're
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doing answer the question answer my question though somewhere somewhere i'm sure that that's
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where some place is doing oh you know what let me tell you about the come warriors of papa
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new guinea oh my god so that you know don't tell us okay so anyway anyways can we move on well i
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don't care well i don't care if you don't care i you know are you gonna engage with the argument
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no no so but you were gonna chew us up wow you know you're real good at this you can't can i change
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i got go ahead you could change my mind if you gave me at any point near your mind because you said
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a couple times you would be cracking your knuckles and you'd jump over the table has andrew at any
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point throughout the show made you want to just jump over the table and smack him around give him
07:10:07.920
a little smack in the face several times what about me am i or not so much me i think you i kind of
07:10:13.500
think you like me you not like in that way none i don't think you have you have been you have been
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more respectful of my views and the things i say and more open and accepting than other people
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who call me low iq just for being i am low iq too by that definition we're both andrew what do you
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think is the andrew what do you think is the iq of like um dating panel podcast hosts oh yeah i feel
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like podcast host iq is not that great either i would not yeah it's not that great i would not
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associate high iq with podcast hosts shit dude or damn you're in the same boat or a political
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commentator which is what i am or a satirist which is what i am we're all hanging out together
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seven hours going in circles it's funny too how you guys did a whole thing about men doing all these
07:11:07.760
physically demanding jobs and this that and i was thinking to myself like look at these dudes with
07:11:11.580
their mics doing a podcast yeah that's that's wild that you know i was a robotics mechanic
07:11:17.720
engineer yeah you don't have to be so butthurt i was making a joke yeah i know but i wasn't i was
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making a serious statement which is uh yeah i was a i was a robotics mechanic that's what i did so i
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love that because you are a robotics mechanic and you do a podcast and so shouldn't that same logic
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apply to someone doing whatever kind of industry work and also being a fucking genius and pursuing
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academia like being both things and so so you so you agree with me that there's going to be outliers
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to all rules so just because one person happens to be highly intelligent and does a podcast doesn't
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mean that most people who do podcasts are highly intelligent i'm just saying that everything is
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binary wait can you do that again we didn't see it well if everything is like again these boxes of
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your one thing you're this you have to be this has been like the theme of this whole you know thing
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it's really funny because i feel like i'm able to engage in nuance far better than you you keep
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saying everything is a binary and yet what you do is you immediately say well isn't it true then that
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if a is true then b is also true that is a literal binary with no nuance there's no nuance with that
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is that two things can be true even your viewers i saw like somebody was like oh this girl boasting
07:12:33.920
about having you know conservative people on her show yet you know doesn't like harrison buck
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anyways why does it it's like why does everything have to be in a box with this please every your
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viewers too it's how people think it's a porn shoot to go to or no i got a six hour oh shit okay
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by the way i forgot to tell you guys you guys all signed up to a 24 hour stream just letting you guys
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just kidding oh my god just kidding we should do one day like a 24 hour try it like good luck
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getting someone to stay on thank you thank you for sharing that all right next one no you wouldn't
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you wouldn't do that next i'm not hold on okay let me get up really quick let me get up really
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quick andrew can you pitch debate university nick pull up the window tab sure uh while i try to fix
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the actually wait we can't pull up the debate okay and you just pitch the oh there we go yeah
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debate university.com verbal combat andrew give it a little pitch give it a little pitch
07:13:34.680
yeah it's to my knowledge the uh the only course like it uh of its kind anywhere um the the product
07:13:42.620
took us a long time to construct and build it was a ton of fun to make but it's even more fun to watch
07:13:48.460
so make sure you get over there and um yeah pick a pick up a copy you could sure use the help
07:13:55.240
um so anyway kind of back to the conversation here as they're they're pulling the rest of this up
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um when you're talking about nuance so because we got a second right yeah you talk about not not
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thinking in binaries yes so i think of worldviews so the way that i think of everything is in a
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worldview structure so i assume that everybody has a different worldview than i have okay so what i'm
07:14:19.840
trying to do is it is enter in to their worldview that way i can perceive from their own scope uh what
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it is that they believe and why they believe it okay do you guys feel like andrew try to get into
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your worldview no okay well anyone else when i ask when i ask you all these questions and i ask you a
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hypothetical and you refuse to engage in it what you're doing is you're actually shutting me out of
07:14:45.540
your worldview that could be true it's not could be it is i don't so that you understand like when
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i ask her but you never once you say you're all like proud of you know entering into other people's
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worldview i feel like you never actually did that and said you know i see what you're saying there
07:15:01.980
but you're wrong and it doesn't matter it's immediately discrediting shooting it down and i get
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it i don't again know if that's just the the stick of the show whatever what you do or your
07:15:11.320
debate style but the most powerful communicators are able to go okay get that but blah blah blah
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the most powerful communicators are the ones who elicit the best emotional responses and get people
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to rethink their worldviews and so the thing is it's really interesting is that i've gotten a
07:15:28.000
really powerful response from almost everybody on this panel multiple times you haven't but i have
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and what's interesting about that is i haven't gotten people to respond i've been able no you
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haven't gotten powerful responses from people and so here's and here's why the reason it's just
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making shit up because it's at that time okay yeah well the reason you haven't no literally just
07:15:49.940
making shit up yeah so then anyway the reason i haven't elicited any responses so anyway the
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reason you haven't engaging yeah the reason you haven't reason you haven't okay is because you
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won't engage in hypotheticals so i can't see where your worldview ends up and so because of that
07:16:06.480
you actually shut people out of your worldview and you will never understand theirs but do you not
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see how you did that what i can at least acknowledge you know maybe i do do that sometimes in my personal
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and professional life you do the same thing you interrupt it's wild yeah if you go off on it if you
07:16:22.820
go off on something which is tangential then i don't the same argument that's not understanding
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someone's worldview even like my age got oh the flirting oh you lot of it's just like you know
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that's him that's if that's your way of getting into someone else's head i don't know about that but i
07:16:40.520
don't know let me let me so i bet you if we go one for one right this second i can explain your worldview
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way better than you could mine want to bet i will bet in fact i bet you he could give me a piece of
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paper i gotta and i can write down your answers i can write down your answers to whatever questions
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anybody might ask you and i bet you i get all of them right i could even give him a piece of parchment
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paper don't do it and with a quill he could still do it better with a piece of parchment and quill he
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could still do it uh okay yeah so like for instance here's this here's an easy one okay what type of
07:17:18.400
christian am i just based on my responses what type
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i want to see like i mean hang on let her answer it's not it's not a collective group right
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what do you think um i don't think you're a catholic okay
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are you a evangelical sorry why don't i keep doing am i an evangelical nope got it wrong
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orthodox i don't know i don't know got it but you're okay i acknowledged
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that you don't know anything about my worldview listen i acknowledge you're you're going toe-to-toe
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with me on this and that's fine i thought you were i acknowledge though you're right my objective
07:18:08.780
here wasn't it wasn't necessarily to get into andrew's head and get andrew's worldview worldview
07:18:14.520
do you actually have a less nuanced position than me how does that equate to nuance my view of
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topics of things doesn't it doesn't so you're ready you're ready your brain so you're so i but i bet
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sure i can get yours pegged ready let's go you're spiritual but you don't associate with a single
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religion is that right i'm actually a jew continue no no no ethnically or religiously
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i'm a jew ethnically or religiously weird and no that's not weird both so you're you're a
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practicing jew yes you're you're religiously you go to temple yes i literally don't believe when's
07:18:54.740
the last time you went to temple for rosh hashanah the high holidays next like what does this have
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to do with i just i don't know i've got a feeling you've got spiritualism not i'm spiritual too okay
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i'll move all right i'll move on this we got this is uh tick tocks nick tick tocks where you going maddie
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where you going what you doing that's that's fair have fun have fun maddie can everybody wish maddie
07:19:18.500
good luck and good luck maddie can you guys don't wish her good luck uh good luck i have to go after
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you okay all is the play it i think it's music though just play two seconds just play just play
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so good yeah okay hold on just let all my exes are just so crazy and you're kind of gesturing like
07:19:37.820
so if a guy says like i have a crazy crazy ex or my exes were crazy what did you do to make them
07:19:44.460
crazy it's the guy's fault right maybe i've heard this from a lot of women actually i've heard a lot
07:19:54.140
of men say oh all these women are so crazy i've had men call me crazy but why what why was i crazy
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because i found out they were lying about something when i called them out i'm crazy because they were
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caught okay i have heard a lot of women say like if a guy says that his ex is crazy or his ex are
07:20:15.160
there crazy crazy women yes okay yeah no can but it's like a red flag but i feel like girls will
07:20:22.160
say it's a red flag if a guy says my ex was crazy or my exes were crazy it depends on how they say it
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okay if if they say oh my ex was crazy and slashed my tires and burned down my house like
07:20:35.620
man that's kind of crazy the bitch is crazy but if they were like oh my ex is crazy and i'm like
07:20:41.500
why were they crazy oh you know they just why because you got caught lying exactly okay that's
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that we have some more tiktoks that might be related to this that's fine uh nick put it to the first
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might not be the most sane or the most liked can it's fine it's let it go next one can you put this
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can you can you show the video okay okay might not be the most sane or the most liked
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but i will always be that real ass bitch god damn pause that shit bro can you like
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here why don't you say it but i will always always be that real ass bitch that my biggest
07:21:29.440
haters will have to sit behind and watch succeed okay but you said not the most sane
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no right no you said no the first one first one sane i mean not after this
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oh yeah uh go ahead bring it up i don't have photographic memory moment letting my ex who
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cheated on me come see me in a new state and blocking his ass as soon as the plane lands
07:22:20.280
can you play it okay uh so that's a little crazy right it was deserved he cheated multiple times
07:22:30.280
but yeah you thought you said you didn't go for revenge though and the universe just worked it out
07:22:34.140
yeah well sometimes they need a little kickstarter a little help okay so it sounds like you that was
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not the universe but you doing the revenge there at least okay it wasn't yeah okay
07:22:46.800
but so i mean if we agree the cheating is wrong of course but i mean does that give you carte blanche
07:22:56.000
so i mean you baited him into buying a flight to go and see you the revenge was wasting his money
07:23:01.340
and time right that was the revenge just like he wasted my money and time sure okay uh next
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your favorite or actually it's i think it's fine
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the community is affecting us i'm not infected i have to prove i'm not infected oh we already
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taught we already touched that we already talked about it i mean but i mean it does occur to me that
07:23:31.360
from what i've heard from a lot of women who do porn uh who've been on the show like bro y'all get
07:23:37.460
i don't know if it's the case for y'all people begin herpes like crazy i can say i personally don't
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have herpes i can say that for sure i can't speak for other people in the industry but i can see for
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my can you read it my therapist just told me i'm not crazy y'all just make me think i'm crazy when i
07:24:08.140
call shit out this is men's favorite thing to do when you call them call them out on something just
07:24:12.780
like you know oh all my exes are crazy you call them out on something you're automatically crazy
07:24:17.800
you're delusional you don't know what the fuck you're talking about okay and that's that i don't
07:24:24.420
have anything to comment on that what hold on before you play it pause no music i don't know how
07:24:31.340
this has anything to do with any topics we've talked about today but okay well it's true is there
07:24:38.600
music on this one or is it i didn't hear music i just thought you wanted it uh let's just unmute it
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let's just hear you have been an unnatural allegiance to losers it's not like you no so my
07:24:56.720
my before bedtime seroquel hold on no audio no audio please okay my before bedtime seroquel
07:25:06.380
conversations with myself seroquel is what a uh medication i should i take for my bipolar
07:25:13.300
okay it's a anti-psychotic medication people also take it for example for schizophrenia yeah are you
07:25:19.540
trying to make the argument that i'm insane no but i mean you had a tiktok before about how
07:25:26.080
people can't make a funny joke oh i'm crazy well i mean i'm maybe i'm being like it's a bit of
07:25:31.300
hypnotism but uh you think it's not ableist to attack me for the medication i take for my
07:25:37.380
mental health hold on that's not even what i'm doing but you you had this thing where it's like
07:25:42.100
you've admitted to being not so sane you have a tiktok where you're like blaming men who say
07:25:48.860
my ex is crazy it can't be funny apparently no go ahead damn that was misogynistic that was a
07:25:55.640
crazy how could you say that bro i'm a feminist over here of course women can be funny yeah why
07:26:02.860
are you being all misogynistic um oh no i just thought that was interesting on one hand you're
07:26:07.480
like red flag get out of here if a guy says his exes are crazy
07:26:10.940
you kind of admitted to being crazy what does that have to do with a man making me think i'm crazy for
07:26:21.000
catching them cheating well that's okay there's that's different but that is literally what i've
07:26:27.500
been talking about what the basis of my videos have been so if you want you want to argue the
07:26:32.020
fact that oh i'm crazy yeah sure i'm crazy are they wrong in their statement that oh my ex is crazy
07:26:37.980
but why are okay so here's the question here's the question okay so one of your exes meets in
07:26:43.580
polls sure what was it 200 300 a million okay everyone so one of your exes one of your let me
07:26:53.700
ask you a question one of your exes meets a new girl and they somehow start talking about previous
07:26:59.640
relationships and he drops the my ex was crazy on her in that situation would it be would she
07:27:08.260
would he be right to say that in the con what was i crazy about you can't just make a general
07:27:17.880
statement oh she was crazy yeah i'm fucking crazy i say that all over the internet right but like i am
07:27:23.100
crazy but what why am i crazy but because anyone who knows me in my personal life i'm very i mind my
07:27:31.540
business i i'm very fucking chill the only time people have problems with me is when i call them out for
07:27:37.860
they're hypocrites i'm not talking to you we're cool we're copacetic let me ask you a question
07:27:42.300
are we copacetic sure we're copacetic sure tell me tell me we're copacetic we're copacetic okay good
07:27:48.560
okay just checking i wanted to check i wasn't sure i wanted now you lost me i lost now lost my train
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are we not copacetic topic we're not copacetic we're copacetic good so um i guess so would the
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girl the new girl in the situation who's going out with your ex he's like yo my ex is crazy talking
07:28:09.320
about you should she be like whoa red flag he said his ex is crazy or is it valid up to her however
07:28:18.120
she wants to receive this one all right next uh so then he says to me what's your problem what's my
07:28:28.520
fucking no audio and then just pause it uh can you read it when the man when the man that used lied
07:28:35.100
to and played me for months ratted himself on ratted on himself by accident to me and to cover up his
07:28:41.380
lies he tells people i sexually harassed him as an excuse to sleeping with me to save his ass
07:28:47.140
i already went over this yeah okay i'll know oh big sass energy donated two hundred dollars
07:28:56.120
checkmate bitch is crazy hey she knows it high value men know it she hates they know it i fucking
07:29:03.740
tell them bitch that's why she plays in the gutter hey big is this lpe dumb ass of course they know it
07:29:11.460
i tell everyone i'm crazy are you can you not understand the words that are coming out of my mouth
07:29:15.940
jesus fucking crap is this lpe big sass energy is this l excuse me is this lpe okay next one
07:29:24.920
when your card declines at therapy and they bring in the x that introduced you to h so like heroin
07:29:34.060
mm-hmm i'm 10 years clean oh congrats congrats thank you do you do you have the do you go to uh what's
07:29:42.000
called no i left the country and got clean cold turkey okay congrats thank you okay my
07:29:50.040
my roman empire is how i i ever thought i deserved anything less than everything
07:29:56.880
mm-hmm is how i ever thought i deserved do you deserve everything thing
07:30:03.120
yes i do i feel like i am deserving of anything i want and can achieve why not so is everyone else
07:30:15.540
are all women deserving of everything yeah i mean am i deserving of everything
07:30:23.120
sure why not if you if you feel like you've put the work in to be the best possible version of
07:30:31.760
yourself you can be why not i gotta lose some weight i'm definitely not there yet
07:30:38.160
it has nothing to do with it oh but i'm not the best possible version of me but like hold on do
07:30:44.440
you think like help you out brian huh i can help you out with what your weight that isn't necessarily
07:30:51.040
pertaining to like looks that is pertaining to the treatment i allow people to give me the
07:30:57.480
treatment i take from people but you say deserve everything deserve everything like literally
07:31:03.860
happiness love respect but you mean literally everything or like figuratively everything
07:31:09.420
figuratively figure it's not literally it's like if i want everything i can fucking go and
07:31:16.120
achieve everything if i really want to that's a little i don't want everything that sounds a
07:31:20.120
little stressful i have enough on my part you can't get everything right so yeah you're not
07:31:24.480
just trying to distinguish if it's materialism that's not materialism yeah so you're saying that
07:31:32.820
you're deserving of love respect that type of thing non-materialistic concept all right next
07:31:37.300
that's it oh we got an instagram video from her then we got more notes from luna but
07:31:44.700
i have no idea also how come andrew didn't have to take off his shoes and we did brian
07:31:49.420
explain your explain yourself i had some bombs i know we don't see we actually should have made
07:31:54.880
andrew take off his his shoes but because if i piss too many women off in here i might have to run
07:32:01.880
yeah it's true and i'm outnumbered right um instagram video
07:32:11.380
let's go make it one bigger yes make men great again
07:32:16.800
yes audio on this one you need proof that the men in her society are a goddamn mess
07:32:26.020
look no further because it feels like we have the polarity right now right we have people like
07:32:33.260
the harrison buckers who may as well be a betty crocker spokesperson and then we have the andrew tate
07:32:38.860
who you know alleged gotta throw in the alleged woman theater basically i've seen the video sweetie
07:32:44.940
okay and this guy thinks his idea of masculinity and asserting your role as a masculine man is literally
07:32:51.920
inseminating any walking breathing thing on the planet right so if you need uh pause it so okay
07:32:58.140
there's a couple things we won't get into there um but you at the very beginning you said men are
07:33:03.140
a mess mm-hmm so can you expand on that however what i was saying they're not all a mess should i
07:33:09.480
should i should i specify again that i love men it's like the fifth times
07:33:15.420
one more time one more time no it's what i've said on this show of course they're not all a mess
07:33:22.880
but it's what i was saying how you know they're lost in the sauce lost their footing around their
07:33:28.140
own identity themselves how to interact with women these obviously i by no means that i say this in the
07:33:35.120
full show i'm saying every man is in one of these camps right these are obviously extreme
07:33:40.500
examples in our society but both of them have big you know followings and people who've you know
07:33:47.460
how's butker extreme he didn't even say anything extreme well i i i have i have defended him at the
07:33:57.220
time saying look it's the guy's point of view let him live like stop crucifying him but i took issue
07:34:04.260
with the fact that he gave this speech and again like dude take the moment to address the men like
07:34:10.980
he's addressing the women and he's like yeah i would venture to guess you know you you women want
07:34:15.520
to pursue this this this career wise but at the end of the day you all just want to be wives and
07:34:20.900
mothers and i stand by why i said what i said at the time it's like it's just to me a very traditional
07:34:25.720
puritanical archaic way of looking at the world and you know well it's non-puritanical
07:34:32.080
so i know because we know where you where you stand on all this so no no i mean even from his
07:34:37.500
worldview it's non-puritanical so he's butker's a catholic so butker thinks uh he he thinks in
07:34:44.100
terms of teleology he thinks in purpose so right that's catholicism roman catholicism that's moving
07:34:49.720
towards teleology so he says from his worldview the fulfillment of purpose of men is x and for women
07:34:57.460
it's x so your highest value your highest purpose to god and man is this purpose and the purpose is
07:35:05.100
to be a good wife mother this and that in exchange for that all of society and god will value you
07:35:11.140
all right you just put my point how did that prove your point because i said it's a puritanical that's
07:35:17.600
not puritan puritanism puritanism is the opposite of this puritanism is like this bizarre concept of
07:35:25.360
semi-sweet chocolate and shit like that that's puritanism puritanism is protestant prattle that's
07:35:31.260
that has nothing to do with a roman catholic you're trying to poke holes in my thing and i know what i'm
07:35:35.980
saying and again like everything i've said today common sense people will know exactly what i'm saying
07:35:41.060
no i don't think they will and you have to remember at the time you can go in the full show and
07:35:45.900
watch it i wasn't like this fucking idiot i was like guys back off it's his point of view right
07:35:51.140
and many people catholic catholics drink catholics i mean like what do you mean they're not puritans
07:35:56.800
to assume he's saying it's his opinion and it's rooted right in faith religion these traditional
07:36:03.840
views and values that's okay i'm just saying he's saying the highest calling for a woman is to be a
07:36:10.160
a wife a mother but that simply eradicates all of the other amazing things i personally i find i'm
07:36:18.040
not a wife or mother yet i can't wait to be but i have just as equal passion in what i do so to me
07:36:23.500
it's just archaic it's like it just feels like betty crocker you know it's just like get being a wife
07:36:28.360
and mother and so you know again i don't think it's the gospel i could see validity in what he's
07:36:34.440
saying of course that women have that yeah nature um natural you know nurturing tendencies to want
07:36:44.200
those things and i had actually a debate with a woman on my show about this like do do most women
07:36:49.260
at the end of the day as much as everyone here all day long feminists yeah i don't need men at the end
07:36:54.620
of the day is that something that we all want on some level maybe yeah so i'm not discrediting him
07:36:59.260
but i also think you know it's a little archaic to want to to say women you guys are going to be
07:37:05.080
happy as doing this and this it's a little like okay it's a little 1950s to me that's all you don't
07:37:09.320
have to get bent out of shape it's a it's a so from again from his perspective and this this can't
07:37:14.660
be a puritan catholics drank catholic smoke catholic smoke cigars they do the opposite of what is called
07:37:21.380
puritanism okay the opposite they're not puritans but now you can say all you can say there's so much
07:37:27.200
rooted in what's bad and sin and rules and remember the interrupting thing right how i do it not you
07:37:34.660
though just saying so when you and when you rewind it when you rewind it you'll see but anyway
07:37:40.960
i just wanted to point that out as an example but uh in any case when you're talking about purpose
07:37:46.400
from his perspective right he's not saying any of these other contributions are not valuable
07:37:50.800
not saying that's not valuable to be in the sciences if you're a woman it's not valuable for
07:37:54.920
you to do x thing as a woman he's saying the highest purpose i know i just said higher than
07:38:00.200
all other purposes is this no you say you made a natural law argument he said yeah naturally they
07:38:05.500
like it that no it's not it's not that you're saying that he said that's his that's his opinion
07:38:11.260
which many share of a woman's highest calling with god i said that it says you just regurgitated
07:38:16.700
what i said no you actually said it's natural you were moving into a this is natural well is there
07:38:22.660
an element of it that every woman right you could be the most career go getting yeah i don't need no
07:38:28.620
man blah blah blah deep down yeah is that what women really want do women at the end of the day maybe
07:38:36.600
they do want to have a family they do yes maybe this is the nuance i'm talking about it's like
07:38:41.940
okay both things can be true right okay me actually oh fuck maybe what all women do maybe
07:38:48.600
women at the deep down i don't know what i'm kind of validating your thing so i don't know why you're
07:38:54.340
being weird so so then i just got one last question on it okay so then do you think that society's
07:39:00.060
gotten better as the nuclear family's broken down i'm for the again why does it have to be one or the
07:39:07.800
other i grew up in a nuclear family where my mom was a fucking boss so why does it have to be that
07:39:14.440
and and again then on the other end i know people who were like in light of the harris and buckler
07:39:18.540
things were like you know what i had a stay-at-home mom it was the best thing that ever happened for
07:39:22.500
both things can be true sure and i agree with the nuclear family thing i've said that throughout
07:39:27.000
so has society gotten better as the nuclear family has broken down or worse there's so many
07:39:34.260
factors that go into it i would say overall no but why is that predicated on women being home and
07:39:39.960
making banana bread because that's what the nuclear family is the nuclear family is the woman stays at
07:39:44.380
home and the man goes and works then what is the nuclear family a solid what you were saying earlier
07:39:50.260
mother and father who are together why does she have like your argument makes no sense yes it won't
07:39:57.200
and what can you google by nuclear family and in what part of the definition does it say the woman
07:40:02.500
has to stay home well it's not a it's not a must it's an optimization and when you talk about the
07:40:07.420
breakdown of society i agree and it's more than just a nuclear family now we have gender norms going
07:40:12.220
all wacky we have things that you and i can probably agree on like there's so many things that go into
07:40:16.660
play than a woman being home to make apple pie like yeah so so as women have not been home as much
07:40:24.440
making the apple pie in the nuclear family and you would agree that most women who were in a nuclear
07:40:28.740
family when it was a nuclear family were at home right how many of them just stop obfuscating every
07:40:35.660
fucking question answer stop obfuscating you did it stop how many does that say whatever
07:40:43.120
does this say whatever does it say whatever okay we're just not going to see eye to eye tell me
07:40:49.360
does that say whatever tell me what it says does it say right now just say yes or no how dare you
07:40:56.660
what does it say is there a not say whatever rule that i know about no i just want to know
07:41:01.840
does that say whatever why do you want to know why don't you tell us just say yes or no yes or no
07:41:05.840
i want to know why i want to know why because i want to see if it's possible for you to answer a
07:41:10.200
single question i actually why is it not possible you just don't want to that's why we want to hear
07:41:15.260
we want to hear we're here for it go off queen oh go off takes one of no one right was that an
07:41:23.360
own was that like it takes one of no one right you're also a queen there were ghost stuff on
07:41:29.800
lithium yeah yeah anyway i just like to see if you can actually answer a single question i asked you
07:41:34.740
i am you just go around you need to answer his question first before you ask some more questions
07:41:40.900
does that say whatever does it say whatever hold on can just spell whatever for us how about that
07:41:48.360
can you spell it do it don't say that you're so much more don't you're so much more can you just
07:41:57.860
spell whatever for us i don't even know what it means that big brain of yours has so many letters
07:42:03.840
that i just know you can spell it anyway you know again i don't under your view that the nuclear
07:42:13.520
family by definition means i suppose the man goes to work the woman stays home so the nuclear the
07:42:20.320
nuclear family inside of the united states would you agree with me can you actually answer this
07:42:24.780
answer it don't obfuscate don't bullshit don't bullshit actually answer the question stop simping
07:42:29.840
i'm sorry so so you come over here so i gotta ask you okay if you can i just want to see if you
07:42:35.660
can actually answer this do you think when we had intact nuclear families that the women mostly
07:42:40.600
stayed home or they were mostly working they were home it was a different time yes they were home
07:42:46.760
so as that able to go out and work it was their role in being controlled so as that as that unit has
07:42:54.520
broken down where the woman stay at home inside the nuclear family and man okay man man work do
07:43:02.620
you think society's better or worse do you you're a no no answer the question answer the question
07:43:08.320
no i won't brian here's why no no i like you brian a little more now but here's but here's
07:43:13.500
bro why you're definitely brian brian brian because he yo you're flirting with me i just did you like
07:43:22.660
it uh hold on okay so uh that's fucking disgusting bro you got a you got a boyfriend and your lucky day
07:43:30.520
you you got a boyfriend yeah i know i know flirt man so um damn what the fuck yeah lay down the law
07:43:37.080
brian what i won't answer that because you did such a loaded question which you've done this entire night
07:43:42.680
yes you he did he said when xyz when this this this when the women were home now is it better or
07:43:49.140
worse there's so many other what do you know about taking into consideration you know things about
07:43:52.740
loaded do you know what do you know about loaded so usually what you do is you got a loaded gun
07:43:57.940
usually people will answer the question then give the qualifier for why they object
07:44:01.680
they don't usually just object they usually answer the question and then give the objection
07:44:06.320
that's usually what people do but you did a whole you do not understand you said well by this
07:44:12.400
this this this so z right yeah so that means i'm agreeing if i say yes that means i'm agreeing to
07:44:19.740
everything you said which you strategically did no you can agree that yes yes it has broken down
07:44:26.280
since the nuclear family's broken down and then give a counter argument but that's not because of the
07:44:29.740
nuclear family that's that's how you would do that's how you would do an argument right fair so as we
07:44:35.860
go in this the only reason we keep getting stuck forever on these topics because i can't get an answer
07:44:41.580
out of you give us an answer so i just want to know your wing man if you're if you if you're an
07:44:47.880
advocate for the nuclear family okay and you agree with me you do agree with me that most women at
07:44:53.200
least in our conception of a nuclear family stayed home as that unit has broken down has society gotten
07:44:59.700
better or has it gotten worse let me answer like a good little girl it's gotten worse however there are
07:45:06.880
more factors at play yeah than women not just staying home did i do it yeah so what are the
07:45:12.480
factors yes i just said congratulations thank you there's so much technology we have dating apps we
07:45:19.100
have we have people wanting new options people can't commit people aren't married for 50 years like
07:45:24.400
they were with my grandparents right you have like i said gender norms getting all kooky crazy men
07:45:29.280
being women men being men emasculating many of all kinds of things going on and all of those
07:45:34.600
and aren't all of those things essentially the direct assault on the nuclear family why
07:45:39.520
yes go ahead and answer you said all those things are yeah almost everything that you named
07:45:48.540
it is directly an assault on the nuclear right i agree well that's what i said well then then how is
07:45:53.480
it how is this not correlated then because you're you're saying the sole reason is because women
07:46:00.540
aren't staying home and i just went actually x y z all these other things and you're like yeah
07:46:04.600
you're right nope i said it's because of the nuclear family but the intact nuclear family at least our
07:46:10.180
conceptualization of it is that men worked women stay home that's the conceptual you know you agree
07:46:16.320
right that that's the conceptualization what it was traditionally yes you'd have to be a reptilian
07:46:22.820
caveman to think that that's how reptiles out of this sorry they didn't ask for this you're right
07:46:28.240
reptile lives matter yeah no you're right you're right um you know that that's how it has to be
07:46:36.560
now and again some people even the the woman i had on my show she's like look stay-at-home moms get a
07:46:41.300
lot of shit they're labeled as lazy as this as this as this and we take pride in it we love it again i
07:46:46.140
think that that's great but why can't we do it with the reverse with women who are out working and
07:46:52.280
adding and contributing to society while also being a mother it's like again both things can be true
07:46:58.020
that's true but traditions are experiments which work that's why they're traditions because does
07:47:03.480
it work that religion keeps people so i just let you go adults they're well hang on i'm going to
07:47:08.480
answer all these questions okay in sequence yes all traditions are experiments which work or they
07:47:15.760
wouldn't be traditions right they do them over and over and over and over and over again because it
07:47:21.380
works when it comes to religion and control yes of course religion's a phenomenal control for society
07:47:27.480
of course it is buddy i at least that you can acknowledge i'll give you this that you can
07:47:33.480
acknowledge that it is control and that it has that's why it was yeah but i'm a big fan of
07:47:37.800
controlling society through religion that's great which is why it's so early this is bringing us way
07:47:42.740
back to earlier like 10 weeks ago we started this podcast not to go into the weeds of this now but
07:47:48.200
that's why i asked if you were a socialist communist because you're so about control versus the
07:47:55.180
individual man not to get deep and political i'm just tossing it i'm sorry i'm sorry that's libertarian
07:48:01.760
nonsense so no not only am i not a communist those socialists but i also really love libertarians who
07:48:09.760
have a from my opinion why terrible worldview why you want to see so i'm going to explain it okay and
07:48:16.200
i'm just going to ask you one question i won't interrupt okay you have but i want you to give
07:48:20.480
me your word you'll answer the question okay okay should the state enforce whether or not a brother
07:48:24.800
and sister can have sex with each other damn bro why you got that that's crazy that is crazy
07:48:30.720
that's crazy no but it's wrong yeah can we gotta move things on boys just yeah should they enforce it
07:48:39.900
should they enforce against it like they do right now right this second the state says if you do that
07:48:45.260
straight to jail straight is that okay for the state to do as gross as that is i don't think
07:48:53.620
that's okay yeah so i mean now if you want to know why i'm not a libertarian it's because a
07:48:57.460
fucking wackadoo takes like that wackadoo oh we can't stop we can't stop you from having your incest
07:49:03.600
baby sorry we're libertarians over here go too far to what ends if you're so bent on control so oh my
07:49:11.700
can you guys wrap i'm sorry i mean to be rude but like 30 seconds each so i can try to wrap this up
07:49:18.340
yeah so when you're talking about uh that question you would ask it the same way in reverse when does
07:49:24.660
no control become a problem i so just because anarchy yeah so when is that delineation you
07:49:31.180
couldn't answer right you can't answer exactly when there would be a delineating point between
07:49:35.260
too much and not enough so it's actually an unfair question for libertarian to ask that the other way
07:49:40.400
right there's no way you could possibly answer it but we can say that there is a delineation point
07:49:48.380
somewhere within there which would comport to reason what that would be exactly very difficult for
07:49:54.060
us to id but we know that there really isn't much of an objection or problem or libertarians out there
07:50:00.220
with signs saying let the brothers and sisters have babies because they don't care if the state
07:50:05.660
enforces that they don't actually care but people have to deal with their own consequences right and
07:50:11.640
so that's where it comes where brian wants to move on so that's a whole other thing but yes
07:50:15.140
and by the way okay don't conflate it with like yeah fuck your sister like no
07:50:22.420
well i think i think i think an absence i think an absence of enforcement is a contribution to
07:50:28.740
enabling okay i mean how isn't it you know like that's like saying okay i think control you can
07:50:36.020
it's not illegal for you to shoot up heroin on the street but we're not going to stop you
07:50:41.720
how's that not really a contribution towards letting people do that i know brian wants to bomb but we're
07:50:47.940
gonna yeah okay okay i need to finish a few notes here alex cain you said your dating life is pretty
07:50:56.300
uneventful you haven't been in many relationships i'm more focused on living life and finding myself
07:51:01.480
in this current moment in time period i said that wow we definitely didn't get that on camera but um
07:51:11.920
sorry it's no it's funny i'm nervous i just do it after like every sentence it's cool it's cool
07:51:20.540
i didn't mean to make fun of you it's okay i'm not you have a 9.99 tattoo i do it's a little ghost in a
07:51:28.000
jar for 10 bucks oh can they see it yeah it's a little ghost in the jar for 10 bucks oh okay i
07:51:36.740
thought it was like or 9.99 i guess i thought it was like an of reference or something it does look
07:51:41.320
like a sperm low-key if y'all can see that i've heard that at least now when you say you're focused
07:51:49.160
on living life and finding yourself in this current moment in time like your journey i wouldn't say i'm
07:51:54.620
on a journey no offense to your journey of course i respect your journey but i mean i wouldn't say
07:52:00.700
i'm on a journey i just like got out of a long-term relationship and don't think that it's you know
07:52:05.780
valid to rush into another one you describe yourself as a rave slut yeah i really like edm
07:52:13.880
oh that's that's really it i'm the slut for edm electronic dance music oh yeah let's see bringing
07:52:24.000
it back here real quick excuse me to uh luna you describe yourself as a succubus
07:52:29.900
can we put it on what you describe yourself as a succubus oh is that oh can you here we'll put it
07:52:40.260
she's hot it's my succubus did you play a warlock in world of warcraft no is your name lilith
07:52:47.540
can be for the right press okay um what is a succubus it's into the mic please it's a female demon
07:53:01.260
that fucks men and takes their souls and that's is that what you are
07:53:07.440
why not yeah you describe yourself as a succubus you've defined what a succubus is yeah i mean
07:53:14.400
you know every every man i fuck it's almost like their souls taken so i think they would agree class
07:53:21.280
is it because of the seroquel or because of the
07:53:24.180
like the sex maybe a little bit of both maybe it's the crazy that makes it so good
07:53:34.120
it could be um okay so you take their soul that's interesting you said that uh you've got
07:53:40.540
several everything from uh several stories dating closeted bi and gay men to narcissists to just
07:53:48.880
regular ain't shit men yes okay yep i'm not i'm not really that's not really okay you said that the
07:53:56.940
fact that everyone thinks sex workers can't have genuine and meaningful relationships i personally
07:54:01.440
think sex work relationships are more fun yeah they're more fun they're open no one's
07:54:08.140
hiding anything from each other everyone accepts and loves each other for who they are and what
07:54:16.000
everything they bring to the table no one diminishes anyone's value for simply existing
07:54:21.460
all right you also said you think modern dating sucks and the idea of traditional dating isn't for
07:54:26.700
everyone humans come in many different forms and so does our love affection sexuality and how we
07:54:30.980
express it one size fits all doesn't work in fashion or dating exactly okay oh we've talked
07:54:38.100
about most of that already we have emily's not here um
07:54:42.980
going back to taylor you said you have a ton of celebrity stories and you have really strong views
07:54:50.480
about modern men women dynamics this kind of stuff um you said your boyfriend who is twice your age
07:54:56.980
has interesting philosophy around monogamy so what is is that comes to do with the flirting stuff or is
07:55:02.600
that like a little bit yeah it's the idea of again transparency and not being in these rules and
07:55:09.180
these boxes that society arbitrarily set up right and you know being in the the individual's full
07:55:16.660
power and i know you guys keep like having a heart you're having a hard time wrapping your head
07:55:22.300
around like wait flirting with other people whatever this this but at the end of the day it's
07:55:27.140
like for both of us when we see the other person in their full power like that is so awesome and so
07:55:34.220
hot like it's even more of a turn on so when i talk about all those things about you know it's not
07:55:39.700
like he's like you hefner with a harem or i'm like slutty college you're like let me just talk about
07:55:43.420
it's not like that at all um well so you said he has an interesting philosophy around monogamy aside
07:55:49.940
from both of you hold on oh sorry sorry aside from you both flirting with other people is there more
07:55:57.140
to it than just that or is that it you know oddly enough so he's kind of challenged it and brought up
07:56:03.860
you know like how natural is it how you know again is it just these rules that society has put on us
07:56:11.660
through all of these means government religion whatever it is culturally right to control us
07:56:16.360
so i've actually have taken this and played with it and run with it not in a you know
07:56:23.080
sleeping around with other people way but playing around with it in my own way and it's been
07:56:31.120
really eye-opening and fun do you want me to get more specific so okay just if you can try to be
07:56:37.780
precise okay so there's the flirting beyond flirting right what which is a power right and
07:56:43.660
you know i know i'm not sure how it's a power but it's a power what do you mean like the physicality
07:56:48.840
and sexuality of men and women is such power and i know that this woman who left here was saying
07:56:53.860
of course well couldn't i just make an opposite argument and say people it's the first thing we
07:56:57.820
see can you stop can you stop can i just make an argument that people who have sexual discipline
07:57:04.160
aka they don't flirt or they don't cheat isn't that powerful but it's not cheating that's what
07:57:09.840
i'm talking about this is like what's so rare right which people don't do and why do so many people
07:57:14.400
cheat because it's kept in these confines right so besides how many people are struggling with this
07:57:19.780
when it comes to interesting philosophy around monogamy he's challenged it sure he's i just said
07:57:26.440
brian yeah but you gotta let me finish my question before you just jump in because
07:57:29.960
you don't allow me to arrive at the point so besides flirting fair enough what actual conduct
07:57:35.720
or behavior are you guys participating in that goes beyond just flirting
07:57:40.040
you know sometimes we'll like give each other little challenges and you know an example right for
07:57:47.900
me is just having so much fun with men and shifting the power dynamic right so i'm gonna get specific
07:57:53.920
okay because right men are used to the chase how much can i get out of a woman how far can i get
07:58:01.940
like can i conquer it right that whole thing yeah so i have a lot of fun with shifting the power
07:58:07.620
and in that so i instead of them having to get something right say i'm like go out to dinner with
07:58:14.500
with you know a friend of mine totally respects me whatever it is i will put it on the table and be
07:58:18.800
like okay you know i dare you by the time we leave this restaurant like grab my butt go ahead
07:58:24.240
just try grab it and it's so interesting that's right and it happens every time that they don't
07:58:31.300
know what to do with that because normally that's their role right how far can i go what can i get
07:58:35.560
from her how can i conquer her so when you own it as a woman and put it out and set the boundaries i
07:58:39.960
know it's hard for you guys to understand that's okay when you when you control the game board
07:58:44.780
it's so and it ends up flipping the whole power dynamic you know how you normally hear women like
07:58:51.080
oh you know samantha don't sleep with him on that you're just gonna give it all up on the first day
07:58:56.280
and then he'll never want to see you when i own my power like this and it's been so much fun it flips
07:59:01.800
the guy's like no no i want to like i want to date you and marry you and be my and because if i do i
07:59:07.340
know you're not going to want to see me again right so it's more you know mental stuff like that it's
07:59:12.120
not like oh it's a free-for-all and everyone just go fuck with whoever and at least not for me that's
07:59:15.820
not my thing but if that gives some specificity i know it's hard for you guys to wrap your heads
07:59:20.760
around a little bit so just so i'm clear you go on dinner dates with male friends platonic male
07:59:28.180
friends yes and with your platonic male friends you are just i assume they know you're in a relationship
07:59:33.960
yeah you say i'm transparent i want you to grab my ass i'll i'll i'll provoke like i dare you
07:59:42.120
or some sort of fun challenge because people would you be upset if they did not at all and the funny
07:59:47.580
thing is usually has any guy grabbed your ass well usually answer the question hold on hang on i know
07:59:52.100
i am bright i'm getting to it usually right away right they're like oh no no i'm not gonna you know
07:59:56.980
i want like i said i want to but then ultimately they end up caving and doing it in a fun way and still
08:00:03.320
completely respect me and i have them like putty because they don't see me as some you know person
08:00:10.540
who has no self-worth and doesn't value herself they're like this bitch is in her power like okay
08:00:15.180
fuck yeah like this is cool and i think what i've learned honestly because for me i came from a really
08:00:20.100
traditional relationship background um it opened my eyes to how confined and in boxes people feel
08:00:27.060
like people just the things i've gotten people to do and say they just it's a version of what i've
08:00:32.960
done on the red carpet like they just want to be liberated it's okay that you don't understand it
08:00:39.120
i know you're both like your brain's broken but i understand maybe one day good i understand what
08:00:44.960
you're doing i just um i don't i don't understand brian's brain is melting i don't understand the
08:00:53.440
power you get by telling a platonic male friend i want you to grab my ass by the end of the day no
08:01:00.700
no i don't say i want you to i say i toss out almost like a challenge because what the power is is that
08:01:07.000
i'm in control i like i said i'm running the game board okay let me ask normally it's the dudes right
08:01:12.640
the dudes trying to make the move this that so when you turn it around and you're like hey you go
08:01:16.640
come on i dare i know come on wait you go but within boundaries not just have a free-for-all and
08:01:20.960
do whatever you want here here here you're out to dinner you said you're out to dinner with your
08:01:25.200
male friends right that's just an example whatever it is when you go out to dinner with your male
08:01:30.800
friends and you don't put forward this challenge do they still grab your ass no of course not well so
08:01:38.000
then i i how is it if they don't grab hold on let me make my point let me make my point if your
08:01:47.680
male friends don't grab your ass you guys without on a platonic dinner date how is it empowering empowering
08:01:59.280
or giving you power to challenge them to your male friends to grab your ass
08:02:08.000
because they're you're saying men they have to make this move but they don't make the move to
08:02:13.840
begin with because they're your male friends on a brian but guys are always thinking it right i'm
08:02:19.120
shifting the entire paradigm no if i was higher power dynamic guys are always the pursuers to conquer
08:02:26.080
they're your friends lady but they are your friends you know they're still thinking oh maybe this
08:02:32.400
this i'm dressed with my eyes so when you flip that on them and hand it and like have the power though
08:02:37.120
so it's not like i'm just sleep with me whatever but you have that control it's really impact it
08:02:43.680
shifts the whole dynamic of the the role men normally play um and i'll know chat is this confusing i'm a
08:02:53.920
little confused that's okay by the way really quick i'm gonna come i'm gonna come back to that uh luna we
08:02:58.400
did a poll did luna eat them up uh uh 70 nick oh can you um pull the chat over just give us twitch
08:03:07.360
no i want i want the viewers to see it on the windows so pull up twitch tab windows tab but then
08:03:12.320
also pull up the chat too so they we just can show it because i think that's a no-brainer
08:03:19.440
so we did a poll started 25 minutes ago we have over a thousand votes can you drag it over yeah uh make it
08:03:26.480
a little bigger i'm batching saying you're right wait like you're right can you mouse wheel make
08:03:31.520
it bigger yeah like click on it you have no idea just make it big sass energy donated two hundred
08:03:40.080
dollars all right i'll come back to intellectual tamed barbie lacks vocabulary and refers to everything as
08:03:45.680
power then deflects and infers others are stupid for not understanding brilliant definitely a spiritual
08:03:53.200
go all right big sass energy by the way is this lpe is this lpe loose energy okay thank you man uh
08:03:59.920
pull it up quick nick if you can go to twitch uh can you click on the poll understand you can you
08:04:05.360
click on the poll they're not confident no no no just click did luna eat them up 1150 votes
08:04:13.600
i'm surprised bro you did better than i thought 24 say you i don't think they know what eat them up
08:04:19.680
means but okay all right thank you guys why do you think your viewers hate on women so much because
08:04:24.480
they align themselves with their views they don't whatever i just looked in here when i'm in real
08:04:29.520
life people are like men we've watched your show like barbie we went through the comments
08:04:35.360
i'm here timu barbie i mean is my ego a little hurt am i pulling a trump with my bruised ego a little
08:04:40.320
bit maybe again i can i can admit it but you know i don't know they're just pretty they're just pretty
08:04:45.760
vicious yeah what's that about anyways i'm still really confused about this i figured we'll take
08:04:52.960
it off line because it's it seems like you're just not well here let me ask a question so besides the
08:05:00.560
whole you want a friend dinner date and you're like hey uh that's just an example you can grab my ass or
08:05:07.680
whatever uh i challenge you to grab my ass by the end of the day brian you would have fun loosen up brian
08:05:14.320
if someone's you would have fun if someone because you're like oh wait this is not exciting
08:05:18.400
wait i mean if a girl told me that i think she'd like she was interested but you're doing it as
08:05:23.280
like a game but they the thing is i set the boundaries so i'll be like okay you know 20 seconds
08:05:29.520
here that when they they respect it they never take a too far step out of line and then they're like
08:05:34.560
will you be my girlfriend but you would be all the time will you because they're not used to it and
08:05:38.800
that's what i mean you keep being like power power i don't get it so that's what it is and when it
08:05:43.520
comes to our relationship like i said he's the one who tossed this out and i was like what like
08:05:47.920
i was always in the traditional thing um but at the end of the day it's confusing to be honest okay
08:05:54.400
it comes it goes back to the thing in the very beginning of how we always say like we're the
08:05:58.000
foundation like nobody can touch what i am you you are to me and so play in the world i can understand
08:06:04.560
what you're saying because i've been like knuckles deep in all my friends and we have thanksgiving
08:06:09.520
dinners together what period so okay so if i can and and we continue normal
08:06:15.440
it's gone we can keep our normal relationships as if i can explain nothing has happened because
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we're adults and we have the maturity level to distinguish people's values between
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i'm sorry yeah go ahead go ahead he's gonna he's just gonna do a uh yeah psychoanalysis but it's
08:06:40.240
okay i'm not gonna psychoanalyze i'm just gonna see if i can't get your position correctly i'm not
08:06:45.120
inferring why you came to the position because i don't care i'm just gonna see if i get it correct
08:06:49.840
the games that you play sexual or other or whatever they are with who whatever the dynamic is you're
08:06:55.040
just trying to reverse the power dynamic so you're saying if men are objectifying me if i flip the script and i'm
08:07:00.320
objectifying them in some way or playing an objective game with them they don't exactly know
08:07:04.800
how to react and so it takes the power that they ordinarily would have inside of this role and gives
08:07:10.320
it to you yeah oh okay but they're not any less powerful or i'm not saying that they are so it
08:07:17.440
wasn't taking away so it wasn't a psychoanalyze so it's not a psychoanalysis you're just understanding
08:07:22.880
yeah yeah so that's what you're saying a part of it yeah so this is um like this is common right
08:07:30.000
this is uh this is like that's like feminism 101 by the way i am not like i've said in here i've
08:07:37.200
had a i have a lot of issues with modern feminism oh no that's old school trying to eradicate yeah
08:07:43.680
trying to erad no trying to eradicate men um and take their place that's not at all it's just play
08:07:49.680
and opening our minds right yeah yeah but it's a movement towards female empowerment by trying to
08:07:54.800
flip traditional roles and so what that does is it knocks them off kilter in your at least from your
08:08:01.280
perspective knocks them off kilter and then suddenly wait a second now the role's reversed it's a lot of
08:08:06.160
fun to look at it this way but they it's fun for everybody they're not like oh she took my power and
08:08:10.720
it's being some man-eating man-hating bra-burning bitch blah blah blah like it's really fun for them
08:08:16.960
in a way too because they're like oh wait i'm not used to this okay like let's go and i respect you and
08:08:21.680
you're fucking cool hot let's go yeah sure i'm sure i'm sure that i'm sure it's very subtle i get
08:08:25.760
that right but the perception is still makes me feel like powerful woman it's not the perception it's
08:08:34.080
my experience how i feel yeah so that would be your perception right
08:08:39.200
sure perception to me is like looking at it from the outside but would you say now with the with the
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roles no pun intended we're reversed with the man would it be so like this is so confusing to me
08:08:50.240
because you guys are well for you brian are so confused what like if i was saying guys never
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mind i was saying i was saying if a guy did it would be as confusing to you okay beautiful yeah
08:09:02.320
well i'm gonna wrap the show well well a guy a guy would not want to try to switch in or switch a
08:09:09.120
perceived gender role in order to become empowered they don't that's that's not a thing that they would
08:09:13.440
ever right because men's version of that's what i'm saying is the the the chase and conquering well no
08:09:20.080
i think it's because inherently innately i think it's just because internally they don't think
08:09:27.040
that that actually is going to assist them with objective power so you i don't think it gives you
08:09:32.960
any objective power it gives you the perception of power so why then just to bring it back do men
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in suppressive countries have to control and contain women's sexuality couldn't possibly be power
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well okay but that's but that's objective meanwhile they could do whatever they want that's objective
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that's objective power not subjective power so let's let's assume like here i'll give you an example
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because we could flip the script right they could just flip the script all of the women there can
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pretend that they love being oppressed that would flip the script right again hang on hang on wouldn't
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yeah that would flip the script they could act like oh we all love this so much but the reason that
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they wouldn't do that is because ah well they're not going to subjectively feel powerful and men aren't
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going to objectively think they're any more powerful it's completely contradictory my whole thing is all
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about self-empowerment by flipping the expression so a woman in a suppressed society that is the
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antithesis to expression like you're yeah but if she pretended to love being suppressed that would be
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flipping the script right i'm not pretending to love anything that's like the weird thing so i don't
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know why you're comparing the two brian you mentioned some of my stories celebrity yeah you
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we didn't get to do my morgan freeman me too story but maybe next time well i wanted to earlier did you
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get morgan freeman extra freckles i think so how many extra freckles did morgan freeman get by the time
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he was so many yeah he was just guys the tts if you want to do a little roast session is 30 ulysses
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the pagan donated 30 and drew a significant age gap relationships man 50 plus and girl 20s is that
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a potential issue the dad passes when the child is a young adult losing that support at such a young age
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my only issue with it what brian deserves donated 100 if it's okay for brian to feel like he deserves
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everything he wants why is it wrong for him to prefer a woman with a low body count
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that's for you everyone's entitled to their preference everyone's entitled to their preference
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wait i want to ask what and your ass what what if so brian what if it was like your dream girl treated
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you so well was every literally descended from heaven but had a high body count it's not my dream
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girl then but what if she was so it would just be that would be the caveat because i mean and with
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the age gap thing andrew was like well what if he treats her well he's like what's what's wrong with
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that at the end of the day i'm not saying it's the same but you know right but it's the idea like
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that single element if a specific woman doesn't want to date an older man i have no problems with that
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most women don't most women would prefer to date a guy in their like age range one year two years
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older most women don't want to date older guys and if a girl doesn't want to for her specifically i
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have no issues no so you're saying so it's similarly when people are like oh it's a dream person but she's
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not christian or whatever it is so it's like that for you it's like well that would have to be if she
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had a high body count yeah so that's the entailment that would have to be the entailment of the
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hypothetical she's a dream she's your dream woman but but so you can add the caveat of but and that's
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fine but you couldn't take away the criteria that would be necessary to make it the dream girl
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because then then it's not then you're asking an incoherent hypothetical you're like that's like
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asking what if you had a unicorn who was a horse would you write it it's like well it's incoherent right
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i mean again anybody donated thirty dollars pink do you really believe you are providing
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the solutions the hellscape of the dating world or are you the problem i think neither oh what the
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neither uh you you i big sass energy donated that one dollars oh no what's happening barbie basically
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you are domineering narcissist you have nothing of value intellectually in your youtube subs number
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of views in comparison to the amount of content roasted by the way really quick rpr aquatic donated
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30 thank you aquatic barbie calm down you don't need to have any more attention the poor lady next
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had three minutes of talking time okay uh really quick guys just one thing we'll do for this for the
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roast session if you guys want 30 tts the you can specify the voice so it could be like you can do
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a dutch voice chinese voice you could do like gregory the brother i could read them all aloud you could
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do you could do a british voice i'll let you pick if you specify for the future tts whatever low
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paladins donated sums of room everyone is entitled to their preference unless it's daily subset year old
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man within somebody old girl then it's creepy and it gives her the ink if they go with malicious intent yes
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if they go with the david is actually manipulating an 18 year old yes many funding fathers were these
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don't knock banana bread healthy relationships don't require power dynamics where did the other
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women go when i was playing billers don't knock libertarian she very few founders were ds just so you know
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um thank you david treasury i appreciate it bro i'll put it back to gregory i like gregory he's
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cool i guess any final thoughts from the panelists before i wrap the show up speak now forever hold
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your peace what can we all agree on go sluts that the what that the whatever podcast is awesome and
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he was employed donated thirty three dollars what if it was your dream girl but she was raised by
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wolves and but you sometimes what if you had a biting that's funny what the true okay maybe you have
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all of these are subjective okay uh what can we all agree on yeah come on that if you're in a
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monogamous committed relationship you shouldn't be flirting with other men
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you guys why do you got to control yourselves and ethical non-monogamy doesn't exist for you guys
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you you're you're mind what doesn't well then it would be ethical non-monogamy it would be non-monogamy
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but you're you're claiming you're in a monogamous is it a monogamous relationship
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i i actually never really claim that i mean i don't i don't like so do you guys
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fuck other people no so an entailment of my world view is that it can't you can't have monogamy
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or non-monogamy which is ethical i'd say all non-monogamy is unethical boom to you yeah but
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you just got them saying it's subjective right ethical non-monogamy that would be two consenting
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adults who agree to whatever the boundaries are of their relationship when it comes to non-monogamy
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right why can't you call it unethical because this was all i'm sorry this was all put in place
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can i answer her question to control is it okay if i answer her question yeah so anyway uh yeah i'll
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answer your answer your question for the same reason that you can say if they take a fucking guy on top
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of a pyramid cut his heart out and sacrifice it to god that that's fine so if you can say that that's
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moral and you have no objection to it i understand you're upset on my statement on that so you don't
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want to give me like an actual real answer i'm giving you the real answer that's so the real answer
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is is that if our standards are just subjective if you say everything is a subjective standard there is
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no moral realism right then any objection that i have to any fucking thing you ever do you can't
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have an objection to it that's your wrong opinion that you're entitled okay i'll tell you what
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give me tell me how everything can be subjective but how it's not valid for me to have an opinion
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on anything honestly i'm gonna throw up in my mouth if i keep talking to you right now because i'm
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getting very frustrated excuse me because because you just do that you do this mental gymnastic thing
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hoping that people will just crumble because you're badgering and badgering and badgering
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you ask me a question it is true enough that we're we're just gonna oh yeah it is true yeah
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oh i don't know um maybe i'm dumb and i don't know what you guys are fucking talking about you're
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mental midgets dude you asked us a question and after you asked the question i answered the question
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and you go stop badgering me oh i'm gonna wreck all these all these mean men but it turns out i'm
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fucking soft and weak and crumble under the slightest amount of pressure to a world view
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big softy sounds like you when i softies hit that topic of religion big sock no i love talking
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about religion outside to go smoke after i owned you i took a victory lap
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victory once you say i know i have a point once you say you can sacrifice children that i have a point
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we all know i have a point yeah yeah once we get to child sacrifice it's time for the victory we'll
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come back to the child sacrifice thing let me let these through ulysses the pig donated 30
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dollars blondie pink all you proved with your slap my butt there is prove men and women can't just be
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friends i'm friends with all these people and we have a mutual love and respect friends you guys
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low paladins don't make it 30 okay at no point in this rambling incoherent podcast were you even
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close to anything that could be considered a rational thought everyone in this room is now
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dumb for having listened to it billy madison well you get zero points
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classic warlord 69 was donated 30 dollars christopher walken voice
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gypsy i think we can agree that you have the tootsie roll out beat
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suck my dick bitch what the frick okay oh because how many looks that
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that was pretty clever we can agree that morgan is awesome do you want to say something morgan i am
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awesome okay she's like can confirm i am awesome
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69 donated 69 dollars and 69 cents the girl next to maddie is pretty af smile face 69 you want to
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blow a kiss into that camera right there that one right there boom all right there you go 69 i love you
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boom that's funny she's getting mad love from yeah thank you 69 maddie ice donated 30 dollars
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white shirt stressed this whole show so much for looking better in 10 years all the ugly facial
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expressions throughout the show have done a number on time to tend to them new wrinkles mama
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long paladins donated 30 dollars i award you no points and my god of mercy on our souls it's going
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see you see you there andrew we never did our kamala
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i'm gonna hook you up real quick bro hold on we're all about to be racist i'm trying to go quick so
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funny i just said andrew and i didn't go down okay hold on hold on i got this bro one second
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uh wait it's gonna play all of them wait can is this gonna hold on wait oh my god brother's too many
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wait wait uh sorry guys i don't know if this is gonna work but
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religious societies have always been violent and unstable that's why there's no such thing as
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ethical non-monogamy okay i'll play another one
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a non-donated 30 dollars wanted to hear andrew argue on christianity is any better or more real
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than witchcraft both don't have a shred of evidence have barbaric and illogical practices
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incorrect and i'm actually happy to have that debate with the witch donated 30 dollars
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hey thank you without a brain your extra chromosome is showing
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damn roasted thank you yeah thank you cornelia's butt knuckle appreciate it
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fucking person you don't have to worry about that
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you can attend the show without the video also ladies would you bow for your man no
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the bow video who's jocelyn yo daria good to see you in the chat if he shows up
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daria is the homie daria is the homie we'll do the bow video okay why not guys get your last
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uh ttss and we gotta wrap soon okay boom huge where was nick though we missed nick oh do you
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you only do it on the second go right no oh okay all right all right this is what i you know i think
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this is great this is what my dinner's ready i get home from a long day of podcasting just got my
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beer ready huge okay that looks so good i'm so hungry give me some noodles i don't even like noodles
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but i'll eat some noodles right now play one more time let's see the bow just the bow part
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boom boom huge you did good that was good nick i'm proud i would argue that that woman is
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capturing her power by flipping the script of modernity and how women are supposed to act
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as liberated powerful women serving yeah and instead by moving towards a more subservient
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role and she's flipping the script on society okay i'm gonna take your caveman head and go
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somewhere um even watching that video right there's a part of me again what i said about the
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whole harrison buckler thing again it's just a little extreme yes but there can be ways in which
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men and women feel supported by the other right so again this is an extreme version but men feeling
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that's bowing to the guy when he walks through the door that's normal that's normal okay yeah cute um
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you know caring for them you did see that they were asian nurturing them right nurturing men
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taking care of that's totally fair do you not think in asian culture too that that's there are ways
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that men also can you know be there for women in an inherent way do you think in asian culture it's
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normal about what do you think in asian culture it's normal about asian cultures it's a sign of
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respect and it's not just from women so is it normal to bow you bow to your elders yeah so is
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it normal about sure but we're not in asian yeah but did you guys are like yes that's how it should
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be do you notice that that chick was asian though you know what i'm saying yeah i know but but this
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is why i'm pointing this out is because you you guys are acting as though that should be here and
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you're like yes that's how it should be oh i didn't say anything about it nothing
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brian did yeah so that's not you guys that's this guy okay you're right you're right that was brian
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okay here i'll let the rest come in um but i think it's totally normal in many cultures for
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the normally donated trundle are luna listen you said that events that you're old manipulating and
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this week your old is wrong but human sacrifice is okay and no judgment spit in a cup pass it around
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take a sip body count matters i said what i said double agent donated 29 dollar and 99 cent can we
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please in an indian accent please please each person around the tape i already did it there's a couple
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more coming in a couple more coming in a couple more coming in low paladins donated 30 dollar
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kamala harris lived in california for 50 of her 59 years we're telling a few california people sound
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like you're from this house like how she does okay okay 30 donated 30 dollar and 99 cent shut up 304
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luna i rather do they then watch work on a deal what are these people what satisfaction do they get
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from this no they just but it's like women on women too it's super lol paladins donated 30 dollar
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she won't bow that would be the meaning double pen and being paired on this empowering door
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keep up the act woman you can cry later when you're all alone and no one loves you damn bro what the
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hell like what is this ryan donated 30 dollar did blue shirt coming from canada on a fake skateboard
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dating a skater boy i like that one that's daniel how's your mommy's basement
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rpr aquatic donated 30 dollar luna you claim you don't need men but you literally do four-hour job so
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sounds like you need men women buy my content as well i see women clients it's not just men
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easy ticket donated 30 dollar is it icky if an 18 y r old masochist enjoys being cnc at by
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48 y r old sadist if that's their preference they are both consenting adults in the eyes of the law
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okay good talk final thoughts for any any other final thoughts before i wrap this up nope just respect
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each other like it's not hard you respect each other no matter what your background no matter
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what you do for a living no matter what your beliefs i feel like every person deserves to feel loved and
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valued and not belittled just because of the career choice they have if you want to put yourself on
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on a pedestal because you think you're fucking better double agent donated r she jodian jiu jiu jiu
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reality brian do a 24 hour live stream on liberty weekend like the old jerry louis telethon
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started jiu pm est sunday to jiu pm est labor day monday camille harris is horrific
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maga and underscore cortez donated thirty dollars in spanish accent i am so grateful that i brought
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an end to the aztec empire and their barbaric practice of human sacrifice as it was an affront to god
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you're gonna be here you get a wait in spanish or oops
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oops ips thing was employed donated 30 pesos respect each other even if they are sacrificing
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that's their religion i can't really speak on i said what i said that's for spanish yeah i said what
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i said said what i said exactly hernan guion bajo cortez donated 30 pesos in spanish accent i am so
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grateful that he brought an end to the aztec empire and their barbaric practice of human sacrifice
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hernan guion bajo cortez donated 30 dollars in spanish accent i am so grateful that he brought
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an end to the aztec empire and the barbaric practice of human sacrifice as it was an affront
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to god okay i have a last thought brian go ahead tell us maybe you can uh if you're up to
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it and you're not too scared you come on my show on my turf not this long lord knows how much
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you're paying me how much did you pay me for this i'll come
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he hurt himself now we'll talk about it you two uh want to come on together
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no i don't know if he if he does that but i go on other people's shows constantly okay frisky
08:29:53.360
lizard donated 30 dollar on the show survivor they put a group of women on an island and a group of
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men on a different island in less than 30 days the women were starving sick and would have died
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without medical help word we get it women are less than i feel like you just want here you're
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we're nothing without you just want brian to come on because you think he's the weaker target
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no brain no brain only big boobs no brain big boobs only you're welcome no brain no boobs sorry guys
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i'll re-trigger that that did you dirty with that one hold on
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one second i'm just gonna put it back to uh what does your show usually pull
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is it live is your show live or edited no i ain't going on your show
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it's not have i put it up basically as no i ain't going that should have to be live i'm not
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going on no fucking cut well you just do it live and then she can edit it oh that's true
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okay that is true that is true uh sorry guys i'm trying to fix this we're easy what is your show
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called talk to me taylor okay it used to be called cancel me baby yeah so what what do you what do you
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pull over there it depends like an average video you're too far from the mic nobody can hear you oh
08:31:18.960
yeah like an average video it depends i stream audio as well yeah but video though like an average youtube
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video you'd have to look i have some that have you know half a million i have some that are lower just
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big sass energy donated thirty dollars go on taming barbie's show you can get 50 views
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that's what he said yeah thank you big sass can you just confirm are you lpe loose
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pussy energy okay thank you he hasn't confirmed gmd gym donated thirty dollars burning witches was
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part of the period in religion i cannot argue with their religion let them burn gotta catch me first
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bitch um you're okay all right guys i'm gonna get a twitch raid going if you want you can get your
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last minute uh final uh tts is in so let me just double check who we can raid over there on twitch
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uh one sec boys okay is wow grandma on i think she is let's see we got joker d
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guys so it's either joker d but he's not even he's not even going to know this
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or whoa grandma we're gonna do whoa grandma let's do whoa grandma uh all right guys if you
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want get your last minute last second tts is in here let me just double check make sure everything's
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good here okay gg well played to the panel last call hit the like button please
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on your way out thank you for tuning in tonight oh twitch yeah really quick guys twitch.tv if you're
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help help help help it's been i think it's bugged if you guys can like test that out really quick
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twitch.tv slash whatever we're going to be doing exclusive streams on there got to be sure to follow
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us over there boys maddie and morgan and people have been doing daddy and the caddy donated thirty
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dollars white t-shirt girl please do the work of addressing your trauma with therapy instead of
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leaning into it and further damaging your mental health corn it's obvious you're suffering
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far from it i actually love my life lord 69 you would donate it thirty dollars gypsy how many more
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souls is it going to take to bring your iq up as many as it fucking takes
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okay um gg well oh really quick debate university guys debate university.com
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andrew put on a fucking master class today he is the master debater he is the master debater
08:34:10.160
big sass energy donated thirty dollars i am not lp sorry tamu barbie and just taking back power to
08:34:17.600
the patriarchy none of your videos have anywhere near 500k views okay boomers okay um really quick
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guys debate university.com uh verbal combat is the course 80 plus videos six hours of content
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and we also have a monthly live uh we have a separate membership you can buy together that we
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check it out guys and if you want to learn how to become a master debater i guess okay cool thanks
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guys um so where was i thank you for tuning in tonight gg well played thank you to everyone
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who super chats donates and supports the show your patronage is very much appreciated thank you to
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the wonderful panel really appreciate you guys this was a long show you guys are fucking troopers
08:35:11.280
you're a legend morgan's a legend you're a legend you're kind of crazy you're you said like three
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words hey i thought i was the crazy one okay fine you get to be crazy too we can be crazy together
08:35:24.320
we can put both our crazy together we can put both our crazy together yeah but you're taking
08:35:29.680
and then maybe we can run the world so that's okay then maybe we'll be not you know dumb whores
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can run the world go sluts go horse whoo whoo if kamala gets in that'll be true erroneous
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uh oh wait sorry so sorry body count million um i don't know over 300 i can say that how many from
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work and then how many from not work not work i can't i don't know i can see that before i got in
08:36:02.000
the industry it was like 27 but i can also say that i've slept with people outside of the industry
08:36:06.640
while being in the industry but yeah over so i'd say like most of it's from work though yeah if
08:36:12.880
that's the question what spots donated thirty dollars brian and andrew you guys got ponheart
08:36:18.800
tonight you should start debating with respect and you'll likely actually make impact and earn respect
08:36:24.880
thank you russ thank you you're one of the guys that must have voted on that poll um thank you
08:36:32.320
thanks bro uh so you said over 300 yeah yeah wait what was that she went she was just funny to that
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guy she was like oh um you missed it it wasn't like a next time no no it was nothing explicit okay um
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over 300 over 300 yes i think you said body count like six
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you're a fucking liar you're a fucking liar okay so it's okay like flirting
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wait hold on that's news to me so wait how many oh my god how many different how many relationships
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get weird how many relationships have you had um so this one obviously before that serious ones
08:37:25.040
how about about three three how about non-serious relationships
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maybe like one or two again i'm not a big serial dater i either kind of do my thing or
08:37:39.440
so six is the body count you said 33 longest relationship two years it seems a little dubious but
08:37:46.640
how that makes total sense i mean i've never i've never slept with were you a late plumer
08:37:57.680
actually that what does that have to do with anything but no when did you lose your virginity
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is it i'll tell you i'll say okay show for show i'll 17 okay i was 16 i was right before you you're
08:38:10.240
right behind how was that math not mathing were you in a relationship yeah it was my first boyfriend
08:38:18.800
okay how is this math not mathing i've never like have you had periods of celibacy
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not intentionally celibate but basically yes i've never i've never solved what's the longest you've
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been celibate oh god so long like two three years probably it's been drought city okay it's not
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nearly exciting as it seems okay uh body count sorry to zero my good all right okay
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can we pull up the photo of andrew when he was 19 i just want to like as a little as a little um
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um goodbye there's this word i can i want my brain doesn't work i feel like you look like this
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look at this look like somebody stud yeah yeah i look like me yeah you do you look like you but you
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are here anyways um we're just gonna pull that up every yeah i know i know you should have never
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shared it with us okay uh kill do marry let's see uh okay now brian thank you to the panel thank
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you to everyone who's super chats donate supports the show thank you guys we will be live again uh
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we're gonna maybe try to do the thing tomorrow then we have we have debate sort of debate thursday
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then we have debate friday uh so a lot of content this week uh most like uh thursday friday definitely
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locked in wednesday i'm gonna wait to they said they're for sure down they let me know oh girls so
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okay cool we'll run it uh let's see any girls who want to be on the show dm at whatever on
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instagram if you can make it to san barbara o7s in the chat just want to make sure did i let all the
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chats come through yeah okay um we're gonna raid whoa grandma the one i did today okay thank you guys
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who watch on twitch i really appreciate it she's playing retail world of warcraft i hope you guys uh
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enjoy be nice to her though she's 83 be nice she's a nice lady she looks this is how we support women
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okay okay i'm a i'm a feminist okay um all right guys thank you for watching on twitch i hope you guys
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have a good night enjoy the uh well gramistry whoa wow grandma okay goodnight guys i'm tracking it where you can't see
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see so if i if i can do that she's got a better stream setup than we do
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she's legit amateur hour over here that is nice she's legit amateur hour
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that shit is crazy man i'm going right yeah yeah we're wrapping trust me we're wrapping
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how's the rays how's the rays i did you damn bro today i don't really need anything in the rays
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acknowledge us whoa grandma acknowledge us it's okay all right well it's another whatever
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welcome whatever all right we love you grandma she's a legend she's a legend okay all right i'm
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pretty sure that's everything all right guys oh sevens in the chat uh was there anything else
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body count yeah that's okay okay guys oh sevens in the chat i hope you guys have a good night
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be sure to tune in for the streams wednesday thursday friday andrew's gonna put on the master
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class so be sure to check those out good night guys oh sevens in the chat we'll see you next time