Whatever Podcast - October 09, 2024


AW, BASED Shina vs. SUPER DEGEN PANEL?! MISANDRIST?! TOXIC Los Angeles E-GIRLS?! | Dating Talk #203


Episode Stats

Length

6 hours and 48 minutes

Words per Minute

185.93007

Word Count

75,878

Sentence Count

289

Misogynist Sentences

436

Hate Speech Sentences

335


Summary

In this episode of Whatever Dating Talk, we have our first guest on the show, a 22 year old musician from the San Francisco Bay Area named Kami. We talk about music, music education, and what it's like being a musician in the 21st century.


Transcript

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00:02:25.940 have the guests introduce themselves so please tell us your name age location and occupation go ahead
00:02:31.660 i'm kybra i'm 22 i'm from la and i'm a musician all right what kind of music uh do you make um well
00:02:40.480 my background is in classical music but now i more do like it sounds like electronic kind of
00:02:45.860 and you're a violinist is that correct yeah did you play any other uh instruments uh yeah piano but
00:02:53.000 not i'm not classically trained in piano i just do it to song right and you're classically trained in
00:02:58.780 violin though yeah okay we tried to get you to bring the acoustic do you have i got out of the shower
00:03:04.900 this morning i looked at my phone and i was like this is so last minute yeah no it's all good and
00:03:09.840 so you also do electric violin correct yeah okay uh and you what's like your go-to classical piece
00:03:17.760 for violin i really like well it kind of depends on whether i'm doing um a solo piece or it's a symphony
00:03:25.940 piece for symphonies i like tchaikovsky but for solo pieces one of my favorites is called la folia i'm not
00:03:32.280 sure who the composer is what's the name la folia oh okay la folia yeah you know i love you gotta if
00:03:41.500 you're gonna speak please speak into the mic sorry sorry all right go ahead what about you i'm kami
00:03:46.760 um age 26 and currently i'm based in sf bay area um but i come to la a lot because i used to live here
00:03:56.940 all right what do you do for work oh yes i do fin dom fem dom um and then i guess like my vanilla
00:04:06.260 work background is i used to be a or i am still a tech founder but not full-time anymore um and then
00:04:15.960 kind of like dabbling in content creation lately yeah you said you recently graduated from grad school
00:04:22.180 oh yes yes i did from cmu and pittsburgh okay yeah yeah um and on your instagram it says you're a full-time
00:04:31.640 is it you're a full-time it's girl from tech now do you mean i thought i was i mean i thought it was
00:04:38.180 kind of like witty because you can read it as like an it girl right but also an it girl yeah so that was
00:04:45.220 my question do you mean it girl or it girl both i'm both i can be your it girl can we be a little
00:04:51.000 bit quicker just a little bit quicker on that okay um yeah not not you um okay so let's see uh
00:04:59.120 all right and you're uh we'll get to that in a bit what about you hi i'm ruby hex i'm from london
00:05:07.360 i'm a full-time content creator age uh 26 what kind of content do you make i do um a mix of social
00:05:16.620 media and only fans content and i also own an only fans management agency all right what part of
00:05:23.220 london are you or you're from london right well i live in london but i'm from a tiny little welsh
00:05:28.840 countryside area but i live in north london okay what about you hi my name's desirate and i'm 24
00:05:36.960 and i'm a phlebotomist all right where are you from oh i'm from san antonio texas from texas got it
00:05:45.540 okay and a phlebotomist so how long you've been doing phlebotomy for uh this is my third year
00:05:50.580 okay all right what about you hi i'm chelice i'm from pittsburgh pennsylvania but i live in la
00:05:56.840 i'm a rapper and i own a hair company all right uh how old are you i'm 28 28
00:06:03.920 uh rapper can we hear something freestyle what you got for us bottles on bottles on bottles
00:06:12.160 models on models on hoes on niggas know how to drive a boat feel like i'm not copying this
00:06:18.460 bitch they're gonna pull up wherever i go keep about 10 back on deck and we milk in a year i'm
00:06:22.480 honey to go i see my body yeah check put in my count yeah check
00:06:26.500 hey there you go i had to like like fuck out a lot all right i thought you were like
00:06:34.800 you know how like in rap songs there's like words that get censored i thought you were censored i was
00:06:39.680 censoring myself the whole time okay um what about you hi i'm raya i'm 23 i'm born and raised san
00:06:49.320 diego and i am a bartender model social media manager amongst other things all right what wait
00:07:00.300 you uh you said model yes uh content creator a little bit yeah o f or no no no okay ever very
00:07:09.720 briefly okay very briefly okay what about you yeah so my name is tanya um i'm currently a full-time
00:07:17.000 student at ucsb i'm originally from la and i do a little bit of social media um that's about all
00:07:25.420 all right age 22 what do you study at um i study communications and you're a senior no i'm a
00:07:33.760 sophomore okay got it go ahead sheena ray reynolds uh i'm 50 um yeah i'm a motivational speaker author
00:07:42.780 and i'm a certified facial injector for the last 10 years and that's it i'm brian atlas 35
00:07:51.000 santa barbara california uh over the hill has been youtuber washed up youtuber um andrew what about you
00:07:58.100 yeah my name is andrew wilson i'm the host of the crucible of popular entertainment channel on youtube
00:08:06.860 i'm a political analyst a political satirist and i engage in conversations and debates of all kinds
00:08:12.740 across all political spectrums all right welcome everybody we're going to go around the table once
00:08:18.280 more what is everybody's current relationship status so are you single talking stage situationship
00:08:23.600 friends with benefits relationship married polycule sex cult harem whatever it may be
00:08:27.500 if you're single how long have you been single and what's the longest relationship you've ever
00:08:31.520 been in starting with you go ahead i'm single but i'm not open for business and i've been single
00:08:38.120 since july 3rd and um what was the last one longest relationship oh right i think a little over two
00:08:48.200 years so you've been single for about three to four months july 3rd four months i guess right august
00:08:55.640 september wait three three months okay thank you for the thank you for the assist there
00:09:01.020 and sorry longest relationship again about two and a half years 2.5 years maybe two is that the one
00:09:07.020 that ended three months ago no that was a shorter one okay who broke up with who most recently uh i got
00:09:12.580 dumped okay um okay
00:09:15.520 um 2.5 years who broke up with who that one was more mutual it was like we either get married or
00:09:25.540 not and we weren't ready to get married okay all right what about you i'm actually engaged right
00:09:32.920 now congratulations thank you wedding coming soon we're having like our first wedding next month
00:09:40.840 yeah and another one next year like a bigger one yeah how long have you guys been together
00:09:46.360 um it's been one and a half months oh sorry one and a half years
00:09:51.880 that would be concerned that would actually be kind of concerning but like also been there
00:09:58.680 what's your uh longest relationship um this one yeah but my last two relationships were also around
00:10:07.280 one and a half years long so i'm sorry could you repeat it oh how long i'm sorry this is okay this is
00:10:13.980 my longest relationship one and a half years but then my last two relationships were actually
00:10:20.060 like the same length as well okay what about you uh i'm in a relationship i've been in a relationship
00:10:26.760 for oh gosh two and a quarter years and this is my longest relationship
00:10:31.800 all right what about you um i'm currently in a relationship um it's been eight months
00:10:40.800 and my longest relationship has been three years all right longest relationship three years yes okay
00:10:48.880 i seem to recall in your notes you said you you were on again off again with somebody for nine
00:10:53.680 years oh yeah that was my ex-boyfriend of three years oh so it was on for one year off for three on
00:11:02.640 for one no we were on for like three years steady and then after that i think it was like 2020 or
00:11:09.520 2019 and then since then okay all right what about you i'm single but dating my longest relationship
00:11:17.440 was three years okay long three years all right yeah uh and you've been single for how long i've been
00:11:26.960 single since it's been about a year almost a year january january okay i'm single my last relationship
00:11:39.120 ended in september and my longest relationship was just under a year
00:11:46.080 uh so it ended about a month ago your most recent relationship yeah okay who broke up with who i broke
00:11:51.920 up with him and then your one year relationship who broke up with you it was mutual okay what about
00:11:56.240 you um my longest relationship was six years because there was a high school relationship leading into
00:12:04.080 after high school um what was the other question
00:12:09.760 your current relationship status i'm single just dating okay how long you've been single for
00:12:15.200 i've been single for a couple months but dating seriously for about three months
00:12:22.560 dating someone seriously for three months are you guys boyfriend girlfriend no not officially
00:12:31.520 but you hold on you're single sing you're single but you've been seriously dating someone for three
00:12:36.080 months yes if somebody were to walk up to you and ask you on a date would you no and you're attracted
00:12:43.200 to them would you accept no because we're dating exclusively i'm just but you're single yes but
00:12:50.320 you're not available to other people currently we've made an agreement that we're exclusive to each other
00:12:56.240 so that's why i say without the title but i'm waiting on the title
00:13:03.760 uh and you sorry longest relationship it was six years six years okay who ended that one i did okay all
00:13:11.520 right what about you well i'm waiting for my king i'm single divorced um waiting for my king as i
00:13:20.320 said i had a relationship for four years it's ended about a year and a half ago almost i'm a single mom my
00:13:26.160 son is 21. all right uh andrew what about you yeah i'm uh happily married and i have been for uh well over
00:13:38.080 a decade all right that's everybody's relationship status going back to you now you said you're
00:13:44.960 single but you're not open for business yeah okay so when you're going up to flirt with someone right
00:13:52.160 what's the first thing you ask it's are you single right so when people say like oh are you single i'm
00:13:58.080 like yes they're like okay like you want to like they just want to flirt with me and i'm like no i'm not
00:14:03.520 looking for a relationship i say i'm not looking for a relationship they're like okay cool so like
00:14:08.160 friends with benefits and i'm like no i'm not looking for like any romance so they're like okay
00:14:12.240 hookups and i'm like no not hookups like i feel like there's not a good word to describe it i just
00:14:18.080 i'm not interested in that at all right now i'm like do i say i'm celibate like what do i even call
00:14:22.960 that are you celibate i am yeah okay um how long have you been celibate for since the breakup
00:14:32.080 which was three months ago yeah okay uh so if a guy came into the picture you just
00:14:38.800 tell him to go away yeah i have like i'm trying to build a career right now and so that's taking
00:14:45.040 all of my energy all right um those of you who are uh single because i mean she said she's single
00:14:54.880 but she's been seriously dating a guy for three months so i guess going back to you you said you've
00:14:58.960 been single for one month are there any guys in the picture i misspoke it was actually august
00:15:04.080 my bad um no no guys doesn't matter but okay no guys in the picture no guys in the picture i'm not
00:15:10.720 in any rebounds since the breakup okay and you've been single for one year but come on there's a guy
00:15:15.920 in the picture come on there's definitely a guy in the picture but he's in the picture
00:15:22.000 he's what he's just in the picture right now how long you've been talking to this individual
00:15:29.600 for about two months kind of was like playing with him at first like not really interested and
00:15:34.800 then he surprised me so we'll see where it goes all right okay um let's see where we go from here
00:15:42.960 we're going to get into the pre-show notes uh the first thing that i want to do is this has been going
00:15:49.200 a bit viral we're going to do a react um so there's this uh girl it's been kind of viral on twitter
00:15:55.840 there's a lot of twitter tabs i wasn't able to uh get through it with you guys and show it to you it
00:16:00.880 should be like one of the first twitter tabs there's a lot but
00:16:08.800 guys if you're tuning in like the video please
00:16:11.200 which one is it uh it's
00:16:20.160 i think it's the first should be the first one just tell me what it is
00:16:24.000 um just go over to the next one
00:16:42.800 yeah i'm pretty sure that's it let's pull that up
00:16:48.960 yes please
00:16:54.000 well you got it okay hold on just please please please guys pause stop uh put it to the very
00:17:04.880 beginning please i'm pretty sure the audio on twitter needs to be boosted just the
00:17:13.040 the can you hover over the audio on twitter please okay it's that's max all right um let's just play it
00:17:22.080 then i put makeup on just for this date so it better go well and i'm not posting this probably
00:17:30.240 if it doesn't it did not go well truthfully it lasted less than two minutes i walked up
00:17:37.760 he gave me a hug and said are you hungry let's go inside we went inside he said actually can you step
00:17:45.440 outside for a minute i stepped back outside and he said i'm not trying to offend you but i'm just
00:17:50.720 not feeling it so i walked to my car came back home
00:17:55.520 i don't know if that was the problem i think it was honest so recap here uh she went on a date the
00:18:15.120 guy she says it lasted two minutes the guy says he wasn't he had sounded like he was polite but he
00:18:25.600 met up with her two minutes goes by he's like hey i just don't feel the connection or whatever
00:18:30.560 and leaves is this unacceptable behavior should he have stuck it through should he you know what was it
00:18:39.600 was it was it wrong was it a dick move starting with you go ahead well up until the last anecdote
00:18:45.440 i was like oh this is a very polite full respectable video right this girl gets ready for a date she shows
00:18:50.400 up the guy's like honestly i'm not feeling you and then they leave and that seems fine but um i feel like
00:18:57.840 when you're kind of insecure about something we look for a reason like oh it's because i'm this or because
00:19:04.800 i'm this when honestly it's not always that you know like we don't really know why there isn't always
00:19:12.480 a reason why and so although it's easy to jump to these conclusions i don't think that's very fair to
00:19:18.240 either of you your thoughts yeah i wonder why like the last sentence that was the conclusion she came to
00:19:26.080 because like i've been i've i've been on like a lot of bad dates but then like just kind of to give the
00:19:34.080 guy like a benefit of the doubt and you know see if there's any redeeming personality traits maybe
00:19:42.640 like i will go through like you know a whole date and so i don't know i just really wonder like if
00:19:51.200 maybe like you know if there was more context is this the first time she happened it happened like
00:19:57.120 is it from like a dating profile like did she misrepresent herself in any way because it seemed
00:20:02.720 very certain how she just jumped to the conclusion like maybe it's her biggest insecurity but i
00:20:08.080 honestly like it sounded like she was more insecure about her makeup in the beginning of the video so
00:20:15.680 how come she didn't jump to the conclusion saying like you know it like oh dating is hard when i don't
00:20:20.880 know how to put on makeup you know what i mean yeah okay that's my thoughts your thoughts yeah it just
00:20:27.040 sounds like she catfished him but also i think it's it's fine to just say you're not into it i've
00:20:32.640 done that before it saves everyone's time and money yeah especially if you're busy you work a lot and
00:20:37.440 you think fuck this i've got to go sorry sorry i'm already that's fine you gotta go on like three dates
00:20:42.080 a week i'm trying to find a partner you know i've only got these evenings for you know i think there i
00:20:47.120 mean there's some people weighing in with additional details saying that on the dating app she did say that
00:20:55.040 she was overweight and she did have uh photos that were that showed her and her being overweight
00:21:03.920 uh but even even if assuming that's even the case um and the guy knew going into the date that
00:21:11.120 exactly how she looked uh i suppose looking at it from that way do you think there's anything wrong with
00:21:19.280 even though going into the date he wasn't catfished but he just saw her in person maybe she smelled bad
00:21:26.400 maybe she was making a tick tock as she walked in like hey guys here's my date and he was like i'm
00:21:30.480 not having this yeah so it could have been i think your vibe in person is very different sure what about
00:21:36.480 you um i think it was kind of rude for him to leave in two minutes because maybe they had like a
00:21:43.200 connection online i think he should have still pursued it like till the end and maybe they could
00:21:49.840 have been friends regardless of anything because they both went out of their way to go and they
00:21:55.440 should have gave it a shot i definitely think he should have stuck it out i'm just curious like what
00:22:02.080 if he got a text from like a girl he really wanted to go on a date on and it was in the middle of that
00:22:05.600 date so he's like you know what i'm out i've already had a drink i'm dressed up nice and she
00:22:10.240 could have smelled bad she could have smelled bad and just it's just like okay she was cute online
00:22:14.720 you know everyone looks a little better online and in person and he's kind of like this just ain't it
00:22:18.640 you know but he could have stuck it through your thoughts i don't think there's anything wrong with
00:22:22.640 honesty i prefer that versus someone going to the bathroom and then just sneaking out i'd rather
00:22:29.200 someone take me outside where it's more private and just let me know hey i'm not really into it
00:22:35.600 i honestly wouldn't take it personally just because it's more i think a matter of he probably
00:22:43.760 didn't physically feel attracted to her or like they were saying it could just be like a vibe thing
00:22:51.040 where the energy is like you're not what i expected you to be so is there a booster here do we not have
00:22:58.880 a booster is there a booster yes oh okay all right all right yeah so i would say that's just my
00:23:05.520 thoughts on it i mean i've ghosted dates before myself so like if it happened to me i wouldn't
00:23:12.640 be offended i'm like everybody's not everybody's cup of tea so you can't expect everybody to like
00:23:17.840 you you know i think ghosting is very different to telling someone in person that you you want to
00:23:25.600 leave and you don't like it i think ghosting is really i don't think there's anything wrong with that
00:23:29.680 no i agree to tell somebody i think ghosting is really it's horrible it shows like really bad
00:23:37.360 personality because if you can ghost someone you literally don't care for other people's feelings so
00:23:43.440 she needs to tolerate that and i think part of being mature it's to admit to yourself first that maybe
00:23:51.200 i'm not his cup of tea and not take it personally because some people like you for what you think it's
00:23:56.080 not good and some people like you for what everybody think is good so it doesn't matter
00:24:00.240 like it's part of being mature to tolerate it i don't like the idea of us like i know it's so easy
00:24:06.320 to be like you know maybe she didn't look like her pictures maybe she smelled weird maybe she was this
00:24:11.440 but it's like maybe he just didn't want to go on the date with her like maybe there if i don't like a
00:24:17.840 banana it's not because there's something wrong with the banana i just don't like bananas and that's okay
00:24:22.400 or he could have been scared too yeah it could have been multiple it could have just been personal
00:24:28.160 a lot of times we think it's like our fault for the way that people act and treat us a lot of times
00:24:33.360 it's very much whatever is going on inside our own heads are why we act a certain way it's not like
00:24:39.600 because someone else we have uh let's pull up can you pull up the tweet and show the full tweet
00:24:52.400 guys like the video f11 please all right uh so this guy provides some commentary can we scroll
00:25:05.040 up make it a little bigger i think it's her eye many many young men go through life expecting to be
00:25:14.000 treated like this and worse you know why we don't typically feel bad for those men because they're not
00:25:18.480 entitled to anything somehow we forget this when an unattractive woman has her feelings hurt
00:25:24.320 and scroll down a little bit like uh to some of the replies uh what actually
00:25:33.840 this is interesting it's like
00:25:37.600 yeah actually it's kind of yeah um i totally agree with that i think it's very different for men it'd be
00:25:43.520 like i just ghost this guy you know it's very normal thing but if someone leaves a date for a
00:25:48.240 woman it's like ah but like i the the comparison i give it to obviously i know this is a different
00:25:53.760 context so you'll have you know you'll have you know meeting up from a dating app is different but
00:26:00.240 if prior to dating apps like and still to this day men will approach women in person and i mean
00:26:08.640 i mean nobody like men shouldn't feel entitled to because we approach you that we deserve a date with
00:26:18.640 you but like women typically are not particularly polite when men approach them in person especially
00:26:25.920 if it's you know alcohol's involved they're at a bar nightclub whatever but if guys were to complain
00:26:32.000 like oh she rejected me instantly because if a guy steps to you and you're not physically attracted to
00:26:38.080 him you don't give him a chance and so it's just interesting how like here's this woman hey
00:26:44.720 you know there could be some component of hey maybe it would have been tactful for him to finish
00:26:48.160 out the entire date but i mean this is the story of any man who's ever approached a woman in person
00:26:54.080 and she wasn't physically attracted to him she didn't give him a chance and so i think women reserve
00:27:00.480 the right at any time if they're not comfortable or they don't want to be on a date with a guy
00:27:04.640 maybe the polite thing to do would be to finish out the date but i they're certainly within their
00:27:10.320 right to end it and likewise i think men if for whatever reason for any justification they can
00:27:16.080 end the date too andrew any thoughts on this yeah i noticed something um maybe i can point out you
00:27:23.600 guys can tell me if i'm crazy or not if you pull a picture of that girl back up uh on twitter i noticed
00:27:30.000 that uh and this is going to sound odd but i noticed that her chest is very close to her throat
00:27:37.280 it's like very close to her throat yeah i'm not kidding right look look at the picture which yeah
00:27:42.480 yeah see how close it is to her throat
00:27:49.040 it just tells me that she's like really really really heavy like really heavy
00:27:54.000 and so like the gut is actually pushing the boobs up so that's why it's so close to the throat
00:28:01.920 so if i were the guy and i got there she she might be quite a bit larger than you think that's all i'm
00:28:07.920 saying yeah and i think if you're fat that's okay and i don't and i think it's okay to not like people
00:28:14.640 that are fat i think like both is fine and if you're insecure about it lose weight or if you're not
00:28:19.680 just find someone who likes you for for what you are i think some men might like a very big woman
00:28:26.000 and that's fine but it's it's totally okay if men don't i think it's a bit playing a bit of a victim
00:28:31.040 card to be like oh people don't like me because i'm fat well some people will like you but a lot
00:28:35.040 of people won't but you know you know what doesn't make sense to me is the comparison that you're making
00:28:40.320 about like a random guy approaching a woman getting rejected and this is a date where they both knew each
00:28:46.320 other they both agreed to a time and a place this isn't like a random approaching and also this can
00:28:51.520 just be sad right like this woman's opening up she's being vulnerable she's putting her heart out
00:28:57.280 on the internet she's saying like hey you know i was excited for this date and it didn't go well
00:29:02.800 and that can just be sad it doesn't have to be compared to like oh man this if a man got vulnerable
00:29:09.840 and he was like hey someone walked out on me on this date and i got ready i was so excited that's sad
00:29:16.480 that can just be sad like it's not a man and woman i mean i i get what you're saying hey that
00:29:22.080 that can just be sad but the thing is is that um people enjoy making social commentary and relating
00:29:28.400 issues to each other because uh that's the way that human beings think about everything literally
00:29:33.360 we think about everything through the conditionals of other people's experiences so we usually use
00:29:39.120 those as analogies and then compare them with our own experiences to come up with answers so when this
00:29:44.080 chick makes commentary and she's like hey and i showed up to this date and it was a pretty
00:29:49.520 miserable feeling that this guy said goodbye and then she knew right and i think that if she thinks
00:29:55.360 that the guy left because she's uh what did she say she was fat right i think that she knows if the guy
00:30:01.280 left because of that she's probably right right like she's there so she probably figured out what the
00:30:07.680 actual problem was yeah so yeah of course people are going to make tons of commentary about that
00:30:12.000 like i will hold on grid one motorsports donated two hundred dollars and one cent yeah thank you
00:30:19.520 good be intellectually honest she sent him pictures that were 10 years old in the best lighting possible
00:30:24.960 then she showed up and the truth smacked her like four day old fish not sad at all
00:30:29.840 okay well then that makes sense yo grid one really good to see you in the chat man thank you so much
00:30:35.920 for your uh tts i mean even uh there's there is some dispute as to well were her photos that she
00:30:44.880 posted on the dating app uh representative of what she currently looks like um but i think you were in
00:30:52.720 the middle or were you in the middle of saying something i was in the middle of i was gonna say um
00:30:57.360 um like my ex ex so two relationships ago he was um overweight i think he was actually obese
00:31:05.200 because he was like very big and then like on oh we met from a dating app and like there was a photo
00:31:12.560 like full body um yeah his face looked way slimmer in the photo but i mean just me using just general sense
00:31:20.560 i was like okay i can tell like he is obese and then you know like i still went on the date and then i ended
00:31:26.240 up like really liking him as a person and that's why i you know decided but yeah so i think like
00:31:33.520 you know there probably was something where before that they were talking where she misrepresented
00:31:39.360 herself like i'm just saying it could be personality it could be looks um it could be like you know the
00:31:46.000 photo is old can i say something i think that there's an easier answer perhaps than any of these that
00:31:53.040 had he realized that he could just get laid really easy because she's really fat and so when he showed
00:31:58.720 up though he got there and went i just can't go through with it and that was the end of it like it
00:32:03.200 could it could really just be that simple can i say something regarding this um yeah i don't like when
00:32:11.520 women i don't like this new fashion that women go on dates and they don't like it or they don't like
00:32:16.640 someone or something and they go online and immediately immediately spit everything and
00:32:21.680 waiting for oh poor baby oh poor girl how what did he do to you he's a bastard he's this is that
00:32:27.040 i don't like it i think it's a stupid mentality and everybody should be aware to who they are and what's
00:32:33.600 their obstacles and where they coming from and how they look and between you and me when i see an
00:32:39.120 overweight person without being offensive to me it shows a person that have over body warms and somebody
00:32:44.880 who's ill and you have a gut problem because when you're overweight obviously you're super sick from
00:32:49.680 the inside and your body full of body warms so for me it's it's no no body worms body worms exactly
00:32:58.560 body worms like you said that when somebody is overweight usually medically i'm talking medically
00:33:06.160 right now they have a body worms right so when you have a body worms you can
00:33:10.480 uh get people to have it through your mouth you can have h pylori through your mouth through sex
00:33:15.760 through oral sex i mean i've studied this so when i see somebody who's overweight or somebody
00:33:20.960 with acne or skin problem it means they have a lot of body worms so for me it's a turn off
00:33:25.120 and second of all i think women should keep it i would be embarrassed to go online especially as
00:33:30.080 a woman because we master of cheating and deceiving when we wear our makeup and do our plastic surgeries
00:33:34.800 like i said last time wait wait wait wait sorry body worms yes like parasites i think she's saying
00:33:42.160 worms worms how do you say do i say that worms as in like when somebody yeah when somebody have
00:33:48.000 h pylori is bacteria yes exactly so when people have body worms okay in general usually i'm not talking
00:33:54.400 about you know somebody to have a medical problem like got forbidden cancer or sugar or something like
00:33:59.280 that but usually people who are overweight and young they have body worms problem in their brain
00:34:04.880 in their gut and it's gonna lead to other they have a needs to put down the fork problem is what
00:34:09.760 not body worms problem what do you mean what there's not what body worms the worms are eating the food
00:34:16.080 all right wait okay do you don't you don't believe in like that um that like what is it they drink
00:34:22.000 paint thinner or whatever to get rid of the body worms what turpentine you don't believe in the
00:34:25.840 turpentine do you not no no okay that's not the way that's not the way to do it it's basically let
00:34:32.080 me just finish this the body worms come from people who eat usually either excessively they don't cleanse
00:34:38.320 their body when when you don't cleanse your colon and you don't let your body get the waste out with
00:34:44.560 liquids and everything they drink soda they eat a lot of dairy or stuff that you know stays in your in
00:34:49.840 your vessels and your body that's how you get like that and it's super dangerous if you have sex or
00:34:54.800 intercourse with someone else you can get a lot of stuff from them well i don't know about the i
00:35:02.400 don't know about the warm stuff i i studied it a lot trusty i'm gonna get into the pre-show
00:35:08.960 notes here unless andrew you had a final thing on the video well no i mean just to wrap up i i would say
00:35:17.360 it could just be really the simplest explanation is the correct one a lot of times men will do a date
00:35:23.680 with a woman who is really overweight that they're not attracted to it's true because it's a sure
00:35:27.600 thing yeah because they can go home they can you know they quick date they have sex it's done um
00:35:34.240 and he may have just gotten there and realized she nope i'm not not even not gonna do this and then
00:35:41.280 out the door he goes and i think that um if i had to bet everything i would bet that that's more
00:35:47.520 work into what it actually was all right uh here we're gonna move it on but uh so getting into the
00:35:53.680 pre-show notes we have ruby here ruby london of model monogamous relationship you said you have an
00:35:59.760 interesting background of doing uh corn uh now you're wanting to turn it around and get out of it
00:36:06.880 it now question though uh when you say like you were in the traditional corn industry no no just uh
00:36:17.040 only fans oh sorry just only fans just of how long you've been doing it for um about three years
00:36:25.200 three years okay and uh when you say you're trying to get out of it what do you mean um yeah i just i
00:36:32.480 started it on a whim um got really famous really quickly um so didn't have any time to really think
00:36:39.600 about it blew up really quickly and um yeah as time went on i got a little bit older realized you
00:36:47.520 know it's it's not really where a lot of people should be i think it was just a very dark industry
00:36:53.200 and there's there's a lot that isn't i think portrayed in the media a lot of girls are like
00:36:58.400 well i'm a boss bitch and it's this but actually it's just really yeah well in your in your pre-show
00:37:03.840 notes you said as you've gotten older as i've gone you've gotten older you've done a complete 360
00:37:09.280 and you think it's a terrible industry and you're working hard to leave it now uh and you'd uh but i
00:37:16.160 mean are you is your only fans currently active it's active but i don't make content anymore you stop
00:37:21.360 making content okay are you like a hundred percent stopped yeah i see so um
00:37:28.160 i'll put like face selfies like in clothes like like a hey guys you know kind of stuff like that
00:37:32.480 but nothing oh so you still post there but it's not nude content no not nude not bikini not lewd
00:37:37.920 not nothing so it previously was though yeah i see okay and then uh you also said i think brian
00:37:44.720 is sometimes ignorant to certain things even though in general i'm a fan i would be happy to disagree
00:37:49.920 with him if anything comes up that i genuinely don't agree with uh what are some of just the
00:37:53.680 disagreements i'm happy to get into them yeah yeah brian you're ignorant brian she might be right
00:37:59.920 she might be right um what uh so what give me give me i guess an elaboration on the criticism here oh
00:38:07.040 my gosh i'm sorry um i'm not offended it's okay okay um um so off the top of my head i'm going to
00:38:15.440 struggle but i think um when i've seen that so i'm a fan of the podcast and i wanted to come on and i was
00:38:19.840 actually quite nervous because i do see you grilling a lot of the girls that come on here and
00:38:24.240 i think sometimes by ignorant i mean you will ignore what the girls are trying to say because
00:38:31.040 they're not saying it very well and maybe they're not articulating themselves well so it's very easy
00:38:35.600 to kind of just like you know kind of ignore what they're saying because they're not saying
00:38:41.760 it well if that makes sense so i was like oh it'd be interesting to to see what it's like yeah
00:38:46.320 well i mean to be charitable um some people are not you know they you might actually
00:38:53.760 someone could be right about something but they don't know how to actually properly articulate it
00:38:59.200 especially in a high pressure debate scenario uh but i'm also not a mind reader so i have to go
00:39:06.640 based off of what the women are saying yeah and um you know i try to be understanding and charitable
00:39:13.440 the best i can but uh so you'll hear a lot of these terms during the show from ryan is what you mean
00:39:19.680 x do you mean this by that are we talking about this or are we talking about that and so all of these
00:39:26.880 are trying to get context clues because people do fail to articulate positions all the time in a way
00:39:32.320 which are easily understood and so in order to kind of get clarity sometimes people actually get
00:39:37.120 upset when you try to get the clarity in fact i've seen more people get upset with brian
00:39:41.840 from him just asking for clarity like do you mean this by that or or do you mean that by this right
00:39:48.080 like what are we talking about here yeah i've actually seen them get upset at him for
00:39:52.800 misconstruing a position they seem to get more upset at him from him just trying to get the position
00:39:59.040 and that that is uh i'm like i don't know what he can do about that exactly that's that's well put
00:40:05.600 andrew is that it that's it what what uh is there something else or no i think um it'd be
00:40:12.720 interesting just as the show goes on i'll definitely speak up if i think there's anything that was it
00:40:17.120 well what do you what do you mean by you'll speak up as in i will try my best to articulate myself and
00:40:24.080 what i mean well what does best mean in this context though okay i'm done i'm done i'm done
00:40:31.200 okay i'm done i think she's saying if she doesn't agree with something she'll say something yeah i'll
00:40:37.120 try i'll try and i will myself try to be intellectually honest but we'll see and were there um was there
00:40:43.760 anything like specific like a specific scenario because some was there something specifically that i was
00:40:49.840 that i was ignorant about i think there was and i can't remember i do apologize i'm so tired
00:40:54.560 like jet-liked but um it might have been on it'll come to me i'm sorry i feel like i'm try to think
00:41:02.080 of it if you can but i'll move on with the uh notes okay that was a no show we'll come back to her
00:41:07.520 let's see we're gonna get to uh i'm you'll have to excuse me if i mispronounce her name tanya that's
00:41:15.840 right it's tanya tanya okay uh your first relationship of six years your boyfriend turned
00:41:22.000 out to be gay yes that's right i didn't know at the time and from what age to what age did you date
00:41:28.560 him um i was young so i was in high school so i was 15 and it went on till 20 and then like it was
00:41:36.880 about to be my birthday so that's why i just say six years because technically six years um yeah he
00:41:43.760 ended up being closeted and it really warped my view on dating and so how like did you find out
00:41:51.600 because you dated him for six years did you have suspicions early on in the very beginning i kind
00:41:59.520 of thought that i was like he dresses a little feminine but i was attracted to that so i kind of
00:42:06.800 like i was like let me not judge a book by its cover like you know maybe some guys just present more
00:42:11.600 feminine and then and then maybe you should have judged and then yeah maybe i should have judged a
00:42:17.600 stereotype but i don't like being that person i kind of well so so tell me tell me something was he
00:42:23.520 um messing around with dudes while you were with him i have no idea i wish i i what do you find out i
00:42:30.000 found out through a a transgender girl that i used to be my client because i do brow threading facial
00:42:36.880 threading and she talked to me and what was that oh no keep going brow threading yeah so she came to
00:42:43.360 me and then no brow threading because i do facial threading and she was a client and she would ask me
00:42:50.240 about him and she was like did you ever like have any suspicions of him being maybe closeted or gay
00:42:57.200 and i was like i mean i thought that he was a little like odd but i mean we were in a full-blown
00:43:04.560 relationship so i had no reason to think so but then she later on told me like yeah he was texting
00:43:10.400 transgender girls gay guys bisexual you mean guys with everything what everything everything
00:43:16.720 my ex-husband did the same everything it's more than you imagine i feel like a lot of guys are
00:43:21.120 closeted and i mean i'm surprised because i mean it's 2024 and my god wait so it's a couple questions
00:43:28.080 here um like why are you guys why are you right girls turning all these guys gay what are you
00:43:33.360 doing why is it the girls actually why why can't you guys be open there's no reason to be closeted
00:43:38.880 anymore like we live in a society that is supposed to be accepting of that right that's the problem
00:43:43.600 that's what created some that some people don't have families that's approach created this problem
00:43:50.720 to begin with for you thinking it's legitimate to everybody do what they want and go be a man try to
00:43:56.800 be a woman and you call her she and with when it's a man that's the main problem it's not supposed
00:44:02.160 to be like that we're not like that if it's a man it's a man physically it doesn't matter how much
00:44:06.160 he's trying to change himself into a woman you know and well i don't think he was trans was he
00:44:11.200 no no but i'm saying my ex is like putting my tights on and stuff i mean he would
00:44:16.560 it's definitely not attractive so i mean there's a sign men need to be a real man so just a couple
00:44:22.320 now the way so wait so now it's the alex jones meme is the women are turning all the men gay
00:44:27.520 yeah no i feel like they've been they're just down low you can't turn someone gay
00:44:34.800 okay a couple a couple clarifying questions here uh you dated him for six years so what you found out
00:44:42.320 and you broke up with him immediately or did you continue dating him
00:44:50.080 uh-oh what'd you do i was attached so it only went on for a month so at least in that way i was
00:44:57.120 attached it's my first love my first everything my high school sweetheart yeah so it's hard to like
00:45:01.680 i mean i it was a friendship like i didn't want to let go of the friendship that was the thing that
00:45:05.760 i was like attached to but yeah i had to break it off i i caught him i oh my god it's just traumatic
00:45:14.000 but i saw porn on his phone and i i was like what is that and it was a day that he was sleeping over
00:45:19.600 at my place and i was like what's that like i and he's he was like straight porn and i was like why are
00:45:26.000 you stuttering like let me see and he wouldn't let me see and then the following week a girl messaged me
00:45:32.080 and he had like a profile for that grinder grinder i have no idea what is that one of those though
00:45:39.200 like if you know what i'm talking about it's a gay dating app grinder yeah so and then yeah so that's
00:45:44.720 how i found out um and so but did you okay so like a month before you broke up so you guys were
00:45:50.880 together for six years or you found out uh and then you stayed with him for a month but you had
00:45:57.520 some suspicions prior is that correct slight okay but no nothing definitive but you stayed with him
00:46:03.520 for a month had you guys been hooking up no it was a relationship well by hookup i mean uh sex
00:46:11.120 he had sex uh during the relationship after afterwards no was it the white guy no no but you didn't feel
00:46:18.400 it when you had sex with him that he's not really i didn't get that you didn't get that he's not oh he's
00:46:23.600 not at all bisexual probably i mean that's what i mean he's bisexual i just you know you just told
00:46:30.000 somebody who's that i mean i was just like you're gay and like if you're attracted to both people i'm
00:46:35.520 like you're you're gay i know it's a bisexual by definition no you're right he's but no yeah you're
00:46:41.360 right and there's no problem with that but just don't hide it like don't use a relationship to hide
00:46:48.000 you're where is he now is he like with a man oh he's with a girl from high school too i'm like
00:46:55.440 why are you using us scared to get out of the yeah he's just scared emotional burn it's a lot of culture
00:47:01.520 like shame because it's like he's a he's um ethnic he's mexican okay hang on hang on hang on let's back
00:47:07.520 up let's back up here because i've been kind of taking some notes is the only proof that you have that
00:47:13.840 this guy is gay is that some transgender person who was sitting in your chair once told you that
00:47:18.800 no there was more i found out through the app how the app oh okay what was the app what was the app
00:47:25.520 i just knew it was for all all love if that makes sense like men and women it was for men and women
00:47:34.000 in gays and it was like i don't know the name of the app well it was just a gay it was just a gay
00:47:40.080 it wasn't just strictly to men just just to make things easy for us did he admit to being gay like
00:47:46.160 did you confront no he didn't admit to it he just said he was confused wait but so i'm assuming you
00:47:51.760 guys you guys were dating for six years i'm assuming there must have been a prolonged conversation about
00:47:56.400 this yeah you were like hey dude are you gay and he said no or what did he say he's he he sounded
00:48:05.280 confused he was just like how do you know like i don't know i don't think i am so in my mind if
00:48:10.640 you are questioning it you're more so leaning on the fact that you're not straight no i don't know
00:48:16.560 about that one i think he i mean like he could be but why would he be on the app i'm in a relationship
00:48:23.840 i'm gonna have to give her the big agree here no to be honest no i disagree because my fiance
00:48:28.800 thought that he was um by or pan for like the longest time and you stayed with him
00:48:34.320 no wait this is before we met this was is everybody on the panel dating and gave him
00:48:39.920 this is way before i want to say i want to tell you something if i even had wait can i finish the
00:48:44.240 story though because i feel like it's important for context he even met up with a guy and then he
00:48:49.360 was just so turned off he was like he was kind of sad because he went through so much trouble
00:48:54.640 but he actually was like i can't believe i've just been whatever confused fantasizing whatever
00:49:00.000 and it turns out he's like super straight fantasizing though a lot of men i think that's
00:49:05.040 like watching videos with something though that's like to question i feel like if i'm fantasizing about
00:49:10.720 a woman i'm i'm questioning my sexuality yeah but like you know but only up until that point that
00:49:17.200 he met someone in person after that no fantasy no anything he's like you know i tried it i think
00:49:21.360 sometimes he tried it no no he tried to meet someone in person like i think nothing happened
00:49:26.400 because he was so turned off and then i think sometimes like people just want what they don't
00:49:32.080 have like people are curious about things in life i think sexuality is just one of them listen just the
00:49:37.440 fact that a man would come and doubt himself and say maybe i'm maybe i'm not for me it's a huge turn
00:49:43.760 off yeah yeah it's not a real man like a guy even talking about it and it passes his mind it could
00:49:49.120 be that in 10 years from now when he had this little thought he could turn around and maybe
00:49:55.040 i'm pan yeah and you don't know but you don't listen it would be a double standard it's the age
00:50:00.080 but it's not it's not you you're not the problem you don't understand some you are too young to even
00:50:05.040 realize it i'm not saying it in a bad way but it could be that the guy was debating you have like
00:50:11.920 issues that he's embarrassed from the family embarrassed from you embarrassed from what's
00:50:15.840 society gonna say you know and in 10 years time is when he's already strong emotionally and have
00:50:21.760 this strength to come out he would come out when a guy even mentioned that to me it's a huge red flood
00:50:27.520 well i do know there have been like two accidents obviously i'm not going to share his trauma on this
00:50:31.840 podcast like i don't have his consent to do that and i do think that's actually why he had this
00:50:36.560 fantasy basically this is your guy now yeah like there are two a lot of trauma too i've had heard
00:50:44.400 of a lot of stories with victims of trauma like yeah to be and that's why there's nothing wrong with
00:50:51.760 you know being on the spectrum of like yeah with your sexuality but it's a problem when you're using
00:50:57.040 people because i was being oh yes yes so that's what i'm saying i was like i don't have a problem
00:51:02.960 with somebody being gay i just wish like you would have voiced that but like don't bring me what if i
00:51:08.160 had gotten pregnant you know what if i would have been with this person but a lot of a lot of married
00:51:12.400 men affected but what about the current girlfriend oh she doesn't know i reached out to the poor girl
00:51:17.680 i was like hey girlie does she care the conversation no not the hey girlie obviously
00:51:23.600 i was very respectful i'm like i you should know like this person um might be leading you on but
00:51:30.320 if you said to him so you said hey are you gay he said no i'm not gay and then what you broke up or
00:51:35.680 what happened he never admitted to being gay but how come you broke up i wasn't willing to be with
00:51:42.000 somebody who was unsure of their sexuality and me and how i fit into the relationship anymore
00:51:48.160 but regardless that's to me i'm already getting considered i consider that cheating because i'm
00:51:52.640 like you didn't even act like ask me like didn't even include me in the conversation so at that
00:51:59.280 point there was things happening behind my back which means yeah i broke up for cheating it was
00:52:03.920 basically cheating no no that's fair enough i was just wondering if there's any like you should kick
00:52:07.360 him out just for being afraid to get infected with someone that's the first thing that's true
00:52:12.800 i want to say something i think regardless like if a man is a little bit curious about his
00:52:16.800 sexuality whether he likes men or women i feel like that is a big turn off for me like i don't
00:52:21.760 have any problem with any exactly people at all i just feel like when it comes to men i don't want
00:52:26.400 to see it like it's okay if you do it but i don't want to see it but if you're not attractive and you're
00:52:30.320 like um i'm not sure if i like guys or not ew no like could we google the definition of homophobic
00:52:37.280 for the record i would rather have someone did i miss something i would rather have someone i'd rather
00:52:43.440 be dating a guy no because i like girls so it's like i'm not homophobic i just don't you only don't
00:52:48.400 like gay guys it's not that she doesn't like them she doesn't want to be with somebody who's
00:52:53.360 wouldn't it be better for a guy to understand himself and like experiment with his sexuality
00:52:57.760 and like figure out what it is that he wants don't you wouldn't it be better that he figures it out
00:53:03.680 when he's young versus when he's settled down has a wife and kids like 30 years later i think that's
00:53:08.880 yeah but it's not i agree in a relationship i totally disagree that's not cool at all can i
00:53:15.120 can i tell you why can i tell you why it's really wrong when you say what you think what no why it's
00:53:21.200 wrong okay because when you're young and you're experimenting it's like this little girls who
00:53:26.880 experiment in and think they look for the sexuality to be boy and they have only a transition of being a
00:53:32.480 tomboy and then society pushed them even further a lot of guys when they were young and had
00:53:38.560 trauma from something else and they start to debate their sexuality and say oh trans i tried this i
00:53:45.360 tried that god forbidden they hook up with a guy who is a pervert and do something to them that are
00:53:52.240 going to stuck in that trauma they're going to think they gave forever because a lot of gays not born like
00:53:57.120 that they go off on their train of trauma so i don't agree with that at all i agree i don't know
00:54:03.680 i think if someone comes to you and you accept them for who they are and they and you know very
00:54:09.200 specifically your role in their life why does it matter what like what they feel attracted to just
00:54:15.680 well i don't exactly say the reason why it matters because like when guys are intimate with each other
00:54:20.800 the way that they have sex like that's i don't whatever you're doing with him i don't want that in
00:54:26.640 me like and that's just the way that oh god yes not just not just the table is saying that they
00:54:31.360 don't like gay people they're just saying that some women here don't want to be with a man who's
00:54:35.360 like sleeping it's not it's not even that and then it's easier to catch like hiv that is that like that
00:54:41.440 through the anal but it's not even that you ask a very important question i want to answer this
00:54:49.200 when you're in your 20s and you ask that question it's okay but when you be married with someone over
00:54:54.560 10 years and you have kids and you have this uh a male i don't even say men it's a male that he's not
00:55:02.000 sure and debating with his sexuality and he needs to be a father and a provider and a protector and
00:55:07.760 he's debating and he's his sexuality and urge more important than the big picture which is the kids the
00:55:14.720 house and everything he's not going to be a leader to your family he's not going to be the protector for
00:55:19.040 your kids and to you as a woman when you get older and and when you have to run your you know
00:55:24.720 the whole picture of the family you're going to suffer if you're going to have this mentality oh it's
00:55:30.240 okay he can just experiment it's his sexuality you're not you're not marrying a man yeah you're marrying
00:55:36.080 a boy who's not sure and in the end you're the one that's going to get affected because you're not
00:55:40.720 going to stay young forever yeah but i like i said he already figured it out this was way before
00:55:46.800 we met okay and then also you're assuming that i want kids which i feel like you know and then
00:55:52.080 you're also assuming there's this like power dynamic right but you don't know he's the man
00:55:56.160 of the house let me tell you something one of my best friends no no listen i've heard it all like
00:56:00.320 honestly like i could change my mind but however like i'm not saying i'm not providing but i'm not
00:56:04.960 telling you to change your mind i'm trying to tell you that i know personal a few people one of them
00:56:09.120 is my best friend that he was in a debating area right and he got married because he wanted to have
00:56:15.200 kids with a woman with a family and he said worst case scenario we get divorced after five or ten
00:56:20.000 years she's gonna raise the kids i have a lot of friends like that too wait i make wait a second i
00:56:24.160 make i make good money and she's gonna stay at home with the kids and the second thing that you said
00:56:28.400 you said it's okay i'm making the money you're not a man a woman it's not a man it's completely
00:56:33.040 different between men and a woman what you're doing it's not really matter it's it's matter what he does
00:56:38.160 because he's the one they're gonna give a role model to your man to your kids to your sons if you have
00:56:43.200 kids if you don't like it's really up to you it's your life like yeah that's what i was saying
00:56:48.240 you want to be with and that's the way you accept how old are you i'm 26 same as that's the problem
00:56:52.880 everybody think oh it's my life i do what i want it's up to you it's not right it's not correct to
00:56:57.600 think about your issue but what is correct my issue no no yeah let me clarify guys guys stop
00:57:03.680 there's been way too many people talking at one time one person needs to speak at one time go ahead
00:57:10.320 so when you're talking about someone who's questioning their sexuality are you talking about
00:57:16.080 like are you talking about gay men dating straight women are you talking about men who are in
00:57:21.520 relationships experimenting or like what are you talking about i'll explain exactly first of all for
00:57:26.800 me the word experimenting in that sense yeah it's showed that the person a little bit off it's not
00:57:33.600 normal and i'll explain why i know you all laughing because you grew up in this sorry to say but
00:57:39.040 pervert prostitute gay mentality this is all over the world now in europe in australia in england in
00:57:44.640 america all the women do what they want only fan porn it's all legitimate to do you can expose yourself
00:57:50.000 and it's normal even the parents don't say nothing right but that specific that specific subject when
00:57:56.080 you say experiment into a guy you cannot experiment on her behalf or her behalf or her behalf because
00:58:02.240 when he experimenting he can affect infect her with a disease he can damage her emotionally he can
00:58:08.880 bring her to a situation sexual situation when she's going to carry them to her 30s and her 40s and
00:58:14.320 she's going to think that it's normal he's going to normalize certain situation and it's completely
00:58:19.040 completely wrong when you say no we just experimented or she said oh anybody can do whatever they want
00:58:23.840 it's their life no it's not your life and it's not your body to do what you want because if you have
00:58:28.480 sorry to say that but i'm saying it to you if you did porn even if you like smart and you woke up
00:58:33.360 of it and you don't want to do it anymore if you have kids this thing gonna come back and hunt you
00:58:38.640 yeah i agree and put you in a really bad place so you can be a stripper a porn you can do whatever
00:58:44.080 crazy thing you want but in the end of the day if you decide and you sorry sorry grid one motorsports
00:58:51.200 donated two hundred dollars and one cent yeah thank you ladies the way it works is you turn
00:58:57.360 the men straight not the other way around stop being masculinity destroying feminist and use more
00:59:04.400 lip and tongue less teeth abdul you know what to do yeah i agree with what you're saying
00:59:10.800 is your mother with that mouth grid one thank you very much for the utt hold on hold on she's
00:59:19.280 going to finish her point then you can go then you can go go ahead so i'm not coming at you not at all
00:59:24.800 i see that you're very intelligent i'm so happy i'm proud of you for waking up i think after what you
00:59:30.400 did and what you've been i think you can really teach other women so i think it's it's good what you're
00:59:35.440 at but with that being said even to you you know uh i'm gonna answer your question you seem like a
00:59:42.320 beautiful and intelligent uh a human being and a good human being okay you know classical music you
00:59:49.680 know like everything you said about yourself and i can see that you're an experiment or transition and
00:59:55.520 you know like how you put your earrings and you know i'm not judging right yeah but i could see that
00:59:59.680 you're in this position that you're experimenting yeah i think if you really had somebody
01:00:05.280 in your close surrounding that reassure this point of this specific side in you like the the music
01:00:12.560 the classical music the intelligence you have the the real beauty that you have inside you wouldn't
01:00:18.160 need to be in this experiment you would just go to the place you're supposed to be you understand
01:00:23.760 because all of this transition in gay prostitution all these earrings all these things everything come
01:00:30.080 from a place that nobody give you guidings for who you are and what's your potential to be in this
01:00:34.800 life that's it okay your response and then you wanted to go so i agree with sort of like the the
01:00:40.960 core of what you're saying and i think you know the issue with with sort of women being very misguided
01:00:46.640 at the moment and being oh that's cool everyone experiment and i don't want kids and i can make
01:00:50.080 all the money and i can do this i think it's you know it's it's it's a result of modern feminism
01:00:55.200 that's gone way way way too far exactly and and i think the point that you were trying to make which
01:01:00.160 maybe not everyone may be understood at the table was that you do need a strong man to lead a family
01:01:05.040 and it's the result of not having strong father figures that we have everyone running around
01:01:09.280 doing only fans everyone running around not having kids everyone dressing like ridiculous and be and
01:01:14.160 acting like the worst men is now a feminist thing is to be like oh well i'm gonna pick the worst parts
01:01:19.840 of male culture and i'm gonna act like that and i'm gonna sleep with 20 people and you know you're saying
01:01:24.880 you actually answering what she said before she said oh it's okay if he's not gay and everything
01:01:30.080 when you pick the right man that he's a leader and strong and and a masculine man you're gonna have
01:01:37.600 a peace of mind in your life in your future yes i do think that is why sorry i'm agreeing with you i
01:01:43.440 think that is why earlier i misunderstood because that is what i have now but i when i thought about okay
01:01:50.000 if someone is kind of like you know thinking of having you know unprotected anal with another guy
01:01:57.280 then i would be very concerned but i feel you know secure he's a leader he's a you know masculine figure
01:02:04.400 whatever in the house like we are a team but i am the feminine he is the masculine so i you know i
01:02:11.360 honestly don't feel stressed and then you have you had something go ahead oh yeah so i think your main
01:02:17.280 issue is experimentation in relationship and like how dangerous that can be right you know if anyone's
01:02:23.520 having unprotected intercourse while in a relationship with you that's so unsafe no one's i'm not saying
01:02:30.480 that that's okay i'm just saying like if someone is wanting to experiment in a consensual way and they're
01:02:38.560 single and then later on you're in a monogamous relationship like i think that's okay like i don't
01:02:45.280 think that's like unsafe and also also i dress like this because i'm emo and i'm an artist and
01:02:53.760 not because i'm there's something wrong and and her favorite band is my chemical romance it's actually
01:02:59.600 pierce the veil okay so here here's what we're gonna do quick thing you have final word quick thing
01:03:06.160 and then i'm gonna move it on go ahead i just wanted to kind of ask you a little bit like do you
01:03:10.480 not believe in self-expression because i don't think everyone who dresses like that or like how
01:03:15.520 i dress or how anybody dresses means that we're confused sometimes i didn't talk about who we are
01:03:20.960 no no it's just an example like okay quick response on that and then final thing and then i got i'll
01:03:25.760 answer first of all i'm the first oh sorry go ahead sorry sorry so and then also too like do you not
01:03:32.240 believe that maybe you are stuck in like old time ways because now it's a new society it's a new
01:03:37.280 world so it's like they preach to be yourself do what you want to do put it out there have fun you
01:03:43.680 know yeah and yes this is not this is not new this these are not exactly that's what i wanted to say
01:03:50.720 and not only that some of these themes are timeless can i like do you do you think that you think in the
01:03:55.600 1970s when there was a bunch of bra burning lunatic all over all over exactly the uh the lawn of these
01:04:02.880 different uh universities preaching free sex love and drugs that this wasn't like all out let's have
01:04:08.560 fun it's all about whatever you want girl you go i mean all that 90s you go girl uh into the 80s which
01:04:15.920 was a different form of girl power no these are timeless themes nothing there's nothing new under the
01:04:21.120 son exactly this is uh this is very old can i answer her go ahead uh andrew so first of all
01:04:27.840 what i i'm gonna refer to what andrew say when i grew up okay you saw madonna doing crazy things
01:04:35.440 right you saw like the the biggest porn star what's her name the one lovelace linda lovelace you had
01:04:40.720 like like crazy a porn more than now and women got exploded more than now it was fashionable to to
01:04:47.040 dress half naked i heard that by the way that david allen co made linda lovelace
01:04:50.960 gag what what ah yeah and also he made her sleep with a dog yeah but anyway go ahead yeah so listen
01:04:58.320 it's got nothing to do with age because you can age in your in your id right but your inside is
01:05:05.120 always stay the same especially somebody like me who's super evolved and in the beauty industry and
01:05:10.480 in a mental health industry like when i you know do a lot of public speaking it's got nothing to do with
01:05:16.720 age this is something that young girl said oh i know what i'm talking about because when you're in your
01:05:20.320 20s and 30s you think you you know it all and you know better than older people and it's the exact
01:05:24.880 opposite i've been in your age you haven't been in my age second thing it's okay to experiment i did
01:05:30.800 experiment i was actually doing a lot of things i was an actress for 20 years i was singing i did three
01:05:36.400 soundtrack for for movies in my country i did a lot of things and i you see how i dress i'm not super
01:05:41.760 conservative i like to be a little bit sexy and flirty but it always has to be a limit right when you sell
01:05:47.920 yourself out there for i give example with that girl sorry without being offended she's gorgeous
01:05:52.640 look at her face she's gorgeous right and she loves classical music and everything but what does she do
01:05:57.440 she represent herself in a certain way the people she doesn't know what's going on in the world you
01:06:02.480 you girls don't understand that out there in the world it's so many predators they just wait for
01:06:07.440 women that look vulnerable mentally and physically and if you don't have the capacity in your brain
01:06:13.200 and she would know exactly what i'm talking about when they see that you expose yourself and put
01:06:17.440 yourself out there they're going to do things to you that you don't even understand today it's not
01:06:22.320 just for organs they can kidnap you for sexual exploitation for prostitution for so many things
01:06:28.720 when you look vulnerable and over sexual immediately they figure out that you had a a daddy problems or how
01:06:35.120 in the house you had problems with your mother or dominated mother they just from looking everyone in
01:06:40.240 each of you i can tell you where you come from and probably where you're going to go without sounding
01:06:44.560 impotentious right and she probably understood i can see that you understand that because what
01:06:48.880 you did where have you been been had that full cycle and then come back yeah you don't know where
01:06:54.480 the rest of us yeah i'm like what respectfully i i don't know if you're the wisest person in this room
01:07:02.560 i don't think i'm the wisest person in this room so i'm not a wise person is an opinion but you're
01:07:07.040 presenting i'm the wisest person yeah it's like you're taking i'm not saying statements but then
01:07:13.440 actually you didn't understand what objective yeah can i tell you what i meant because i think
01:07:19.200 first of all i think you're taking it way too personally second of all i what i meant exactly
01:07:23.600 i'll try to explain it with my english better i think that any person who is sort of my age
01:07:30.080 any person who is in my age right 40 and up right can see people that they're younger and
01:07:35.760 already kind of figure out what's going on of course you understand it's your body language
01:07:40.400 is the way you speak it's how you carry yourself it's a lot of little things that you cannot pick
01:07:45.360 up obviously because you haven't been my age and i already have been in your age without sounding
01:07:49.120 potentious but i do have one quick question to follow up that have you ever considered that maybe
01:07:54.240 this is all a brand a what sorry a brand the way that you present yourself especially i see a lot of
01:08:00.640 female entrepreneurs of course there's a benefit to of course but that's that's exactly what you're
01:08:06.640 saying listen to this because it's important what you're saying right now yes this is the biggest
01:08:10.720 exploitation for women in this country in america specifically and i'll tell you why because a lot
01:08:15.760 of these artists don't want to be okay i have a lot of friends that they are super big producers
01:08:19.920 in the rap industry i know a lot of people me too i know a lot of okay no i'm just telling you
01:08:23.840 a lot of them looking for women like this so they know they're inspiring actors or singers and they
01:08:29.680 want to do things and they're over sexual and you know what eighty percent of these girls who want to
01:08:34.400 be rappers and a little bit good looking and have a talent or a good voice end up being their mattress
01:08:39.920 for all the industry and maybe one of them have lucky to become famous and even then she's becoming
01:08:47.120 in the same circle when she gets to her 40s she's not relevant anymore because she did so many tattoos
01:08:52.960 become like exploded with her clothes and everything when she's in her 40 and 50s when
01:08:57.120 people want to see you serious you already expired that's my point hopefully at that point you're
01:09:01.440 already financially free though it doesn't matter money money money doesn't money doesn't replace
01:09:06.560 values that's the problem with your mentality with american mentality those people they're doing it
01:09:11.360 because their values money wait money doesn't replace values you can have all the money in your
01:09:17.120 world listen you can be a multi-millionaire when you're 50 years old sitting in your in your
01:09:21.600 mansion when you slept with hundreds of guys exploded your body all over the place full of
01:09:26.800 tattoos looking like correct already be used and abused but you have all the money but nobody would
01:09:31.600 want to be with you because you're not relevant but i honestly feel like that's why social media
01:09:35.840 is kind of like a good thing in a way because it's like now you have the platform where it doesn't
01:09:39.760 matter your age it doesn't matter how you dress it just matters like what you bring to the table
01:09:44.720 how is it relevant to what i said i think what she means is that like it's because you're saying
01:09:50.080 that like okay well just tell me what you said again hold on hold on hold on i mean i i'm going
01:09:56.080 to move things on a little bit here red green says by far the wildest persistent double standard on the
01:10:00.320 show are bi women like pink shirt in the middle who say it's okay for them they themselves to be by
01:10:09.040 and experiment but won't date by men oh wait you're by um i like i don't okay i experimented i don't
01:10:17.200 really like girls like i would never marry a woman but i don't really experiment either like i love men
01:10:23.360 but i'm saying i have tried but me personally i do not like i won't i wouldn't date a guy that just
01:10:29.600 likes guys like i just wouldn't do it i'm sorry it's a turn off for me but i don't mind let's be
01:10:33.760 here's the other thing to the chatter to the chatter's point lesbians aren't real so they're
01:10:39.680 not real it's not a real thing like it's it's totally a fake thing like let's be real it's it's
01:10:45.040 not real trees that might be a little we're we might be getting a little tos there just i don't
01:10:51.680 think so i mean i think it's this is a phenomenon quite a bit but okay i think therefore i am i've
01:10:58.000 actually i've actually been super this is maybe a tangent but i've actually been super curious the whole
01:11:03.280 time like andrew what are your thoughts on like i think therefore i am what because a few previous
01:11:11.120 few previous ones um episodes i have seen people say like you know i feel this i believe this this
01:11:17.520 is real to me but then like you're saying lesbians are not real so i'm like i'm just curious
01:11:23.600 what do i think if i think therefore i am i think if you don't does that mean that if you don't think
01:11:34.240 you are not what wait that's actually my question to you just from seeing different episodes and then
01:11:40.320 also today getting we have a little what do you say poo poo time bro don't if a chat comes up i will read
01:11:47.360 it disregard the chat go ahead okay i lost my train of thought i think it was like the previous episodes
01:11:53.760 there were a few where it was like you it sounded like you didn't agree with someone essentially saying
01:12:00.640 i think therefore i am and then today you're saying lesbians are not real so are we supposed to just
01:12:06.480 take yeah no what i mean by that so let me just explain what i mean by that so that you understand
01:12:10.800 is that i think that the preference uh when women end up with women i seem to see a lot more women
01:12:17.840 who are in that situation go back to men than i see it the other way i see okay like an overwhelming
01:12:25.360 amount who seem to end up going the other way whereas men uh there's many of them who seem to stay
01:12:32.560 with men their entire lives and that's all they they ever prefer but women who who end up in kind of
01:12:38.080 these long-term same-sex relationships i see them mostly going back to men and so that's what i mean
01:12:42.640 by that it's a by the way this is something which is discussed in these lgbtq communities uh non-stop they
01:12:50.080 talk about it non-stop it's a real phenomenon and uh there's all sorts of theories as to why but yeah
01:12:56.000 it's discussed quite often that is true yeah it's true all right um here i'll pull up the chat here
01:13:05.120 uh got pooped how come when it's poopoo time it's also pp time but when it's pp time it is isn't
01:13:14.240 always poopoo time a question for the philosophers uh thank you uh booped appreciate it that was that
01:13:21.120 was uh beautiful uh going back to the notes here tanya you said i believe a man should have the
01:13:26.000 ability to financially support and provide for their partner before entering a committed relationship
01:13:32.560 yeah and emphasis on committed because because a lot of men like to date but they might not have
01:13:41.040 you know like financial means to be in a position to be in a committed relationship
01:13:46.960 and that's okay not everybody has it you know let's like i mean oh go ahead no i was just saying
01:13:53.920 um to be in a committed relationship like there's a lot of requirements on both ends like
01:13:57.760 as a woman you have to bring a lot to the table and a man you have to bring a lot to the table
01:14:03.600 yeah there's different requirements there's a lot to explore there so you said as a woman you got to
01:14:08.160 bring a lot to the table as a man you got to bring a lot to the table let's first explore what a man
01:14:12.560 has to bring to the table so what does a man have to bring to the table that's a different
01:14:15.920 question for everybody because every girl has a different standard well let's talk about yours then so i do
01:14:21.520 like a traditional
01:14:23.880 relationship.
01:14:25.780 So maybe not
01:14:27.640 super strictly traditional because things have
01:14:29.680 changed as of the times.
01:14:32.060 But I was raised
01:14:33.840 by a dad
01:14:35.760 and a mom, so traditional household,
01:14:37.760 which means I do expect
01:14:39.940 my... I see my father.
01:14:42.020 He takes care of my mother in every financial
01:14:43.820 way because I come from a Mexican household.
01:14:45.780 And that's kind of typical, right?
01:14:47.720 Yeah, and I honestly aspire...
01:14:49.820 I look up to them.
01:14:51.520 I want my husband
01:14:53.560 to be in a lot of ways like my
01:14:55.780 father. So when I
01:14:57.860 date, I look for a man
01:14:59.800 where I'm like, hey, look, I eventually
01:15:01.860 want to settle down and have kids
01:15:04.000 and be a mother. And if
01:15:05.760 you feel like it's a burden
01:15:06.960 to take care of your wife,
01:15:09.600 I'm not the woman for you.
01:15:12.040 So men need to be
01:15:13.580 providers, protectors,
01:15:15.320 that sort of thing? Yeah, so just very
01:15:17.500 traditional old school, if you
01:15:19.480 take it back to the 80s.
01:15:21.160 Like, around then. And you said you bring a lot
01:15:23.420 to the table. What do you bring to the table?
01:15:26.820 That's a
01:15:27.500 very, like, nuanced question.
01:15:29.500 Like, what do you mean by that?
01:15:30.640 Well, I mean, you had a...
01:15:31.500 You were able to... No, it's okay.
01:15:33.840 Give us the nuanced answer.
01:15:35.280 Yeah. So, okay, I'll give you an answer.
01:15:36.940 I think that women do bring the vulnerability.
01:15:39.560 They bring the nurturing.
01:15:41.120 So they're mothers.
01:15:41.860 And what do you bring?
01:15:42.700 If you desire a wife,
01:15:44.820 that's what you're going to get from your partner.
01:15:46.540 Hang on, hang on, hang on.
01:15:47.380 Because I think you misinterpreted the question.
01:15:49.980 What do you bring?
01:15:51.460 That's what I will bring, because that's
01:15:53.280 the type of relationship I want.
01:15:55.680 I want to be a wife.
01:15:56.200 Okay, so now that it's established that we're
01:15:57.760 talking about you, not women.
01:15:59.060 Because you said what women bring is A, B, C, and D.
01:16:01.940 We're just asking about you specifically.
01:16:03.740 So what you specifically,
01:16:05.200 what do you bring to the table?
01:16:06.520 Can you just start from there again?
01:16:08.500 Okay.
01:16:09.660 So I bring loyalty, and that's one given.
01:16:14.520 I bring femininity.
01:16:16.500 I bring aspects of being an anchor to my partner.
01:16:20.780 So when they need something emotionally,
01:16:23.980 because a lot of the times,
01:16:25.140 you might not realize it,
01:16:27.040 but when you're in a committed relationship
01:16:28.840 with your partner,
01:16:30.360 men rely a lot on their partner.
01:16:33.560 And as a woman, we have those traits
01:16:36.780 inherently, almost naturally in us.
01:16:39.720 And I would say that's what I've noticed.
01:16:42.480 I've been such a great emotional support
01:16:44.540 to my partners.
01:16:45.660 Absolutely.
01:16:46.340 So yeah, I feel like a real man
01:16:50.020 who has traits of masculinity
01:16:52.300 will honor that, in my opinion.
01:16:54.600 Good girl.
01:16:55.660 But hold on.
01:16:56.000 Don't you think, well, I'm sorry, Brian,
01:16:58.700 I didn't mean to get in your inquiry.
01:16:59.760 Go ahead.
01:17:00.180 Go ahead.
01:17:00.560 I'll go after you.
01:17:01.220 Oh, don't you think that things
01:17:04.060 like loyalty and femininity
01:17:05.480 are just things that every woman
01:17:07.780 that you're supposed to bring to a table,
01:17:09.960 no matter what?
01:17:10.600 Not all women have that trait.
01:17:13.160 Some women are not natural.
01:17:14.780 Well, no, hang on, hang on.
01:17:15.800 I'm not saying that some women
01:17:17.140 don't bring that.
01:17:19.040 In fact, I would say a lot of women
01:17:20.120 do not bring that.
01:17:21.000 But I'm just saying as a baseline,
01:17:23.040 isn't that just a standard?
01:17:25.660 Like, this is just a reasonable,
01:17:28.740 normal, across-the-board expectation
01:17:30.760 that somebody would have
01:17:31.720 that their woman is feminine and loyal?
01:17:33.900 Not with modern feminists.
01:17:35.460 Well, so, okay, maybe I can clarify.
01:17:37.820 Don't get a feminist.
01:17:38.920 That's the point.
01:17:40.120 Please, if I'm talking, allow me to talk.
01:17:42.560 You guys keep interrupting.
01:17:44.400 Okay, so you said men should be providers
01:17:47.540 and protectors.
01:17:48.380 I'm assuming you also want them
01:17:49.540 to be loyal and masculine.
01:17:51.060 And what was the other one
01:17:53.800 that you said you were bringing
01:17:54.840 to the table?
01:17:55.680 You said loyalty, femininity,
01:17:58.020 and what was the other one?
01:17:59.780 Nurturing.
01:18:00.220 You got to speak into the mic kindly.
01:18:02.520 Nurturing.
01:18:03.400 Nurturing, okay.
01:18:04.960 So, I'm assuming you want
01:18:06.820 your man to be loyal?
01:18:08.120 Yes.
01:18:08.500 And I'm assuming you want
01:18:09.300 your man to be masculine?
01:18:10.220 Yes.
01:18:10.720 Okay, so you listed two
01:18:11.860 really big things in terms
01:18:13.300 of your expectations of men,
01:18:14.760 which is providing and protecting.
01:18:16.720 What is the female-gendered thing
01:18:20.100 that you're going to be bringing
01:18:21.340 to the table?
01:18:23.900 Because he's bringing masculinity,
01:18:25.380 you bring femininity,
01:18:26.720 you both bring loyalty.
01:18:27.960 What do you bring to the table?
01:18:29.280 Yeah, like a yin-yang.
01:18:30.240 You want the opposites
01:18:31.540 of what the partner,
01:18:32.720 your partner doesn't carry, right?
01:18:34.220 So, I'll bring what they lack
01:18:35.600 and I'll get in the receiving end
01:18:38.040 what I lack as a woman.
01:18:40.460 So, I don't have physical strength, right?
01:18:43.140 But I have emotional strength.
01:18:45.080 He might not have emotional strength,
01:18:47.280 but I have that.
01:18:48.220 So, it's like, I will bring the traits.
01:18:50.160 Well, I don't know.
01:18:50.600 It doesn't seem very masculine
01:18:51.660 to not have emotional strength.
01:18:54.460 That seems like the opposite
01:18:56.160 of masculinity, right?
01:18:57.400 To not have emotional strength.
01:18:59.080 I think you're like skewing my...
01:19:01.040 Oh, my God.
01:19:02.760 Guys, we need really good discipline here
01:19:04.920 with the interruptions
01:19:06.220 and talking at the same time.
01:19:08.120 Go ahead.
01:19:10.820 But, like, basically encompassing
01:19:12.820 what I was trying to say is
01:19:14.620 we want a balance
01:19:16.180 within our relationships,
01:19:18.380 at least if you're somebody
01:19:19.620 who likes more traditional relationships.
01:19:21.780 So, wherever I'm lacking,
01:19:23.480 I want my partner to be,
01:19:26.960 well, to encompass that
01:19:28.640 and vice versa.
01:19:30.200 Like, that's what I want to do
01:19:31.040 for my partner.
01:19:33.500 Well, to explain kind of the context
01:19:35.720 of the question why it's being asked
01:19:37.120 is there's...
01:19:39.000 I agree that there's going to be
01:19:40.140 unique things that women
01:19:41.080 can bring to the table
01:19:41.840 that men can't.
01:19:42.560 For instance, women are going to be able
01:19:44.060 to have babies.
01:19:45.000 Men aren't going to be able
01:19:45.680 to have babies, right?
01:19:47.080 So, we could say that
01:19:47.900 that's a unique characteristic
01:19:49.260 that a woman's going to bring
01:19:50.260 to the table.
01:19:51.420 But when women give the expectation
01:19:53.040 that, well, I'm looking for a guy
01:19:55.040 who is masculine,
01:19:56.300 provides resources,
01:19:57.420 this and that,
01:19:58.040 and protection,
01:19:58.900 protection being a big one,
01:20:00.480 we're looking for
01:20:01.280 what the counter trait is
01:20:02.620 that he can expect from you
01:20:04.140 that he doesn't just already have
01:20:06.620 as a standard, right?
01:20:08.140 So, like, if you name a trait
01:20:09.440 like loyalty,
01:20:10.100 the expectation of loyalty
01:20:12.060 on both ends,
01:20:12.960 that's just standard, right?
01:20:14.680 But love,
01:20:15.360 that's going to be just standard
01:20:16.540 across the board.
01:20:17.800 Protection is not, though.
01:20:19.180 That's something that's unique to him,
01:20:21.180 not generally going to be unique to you.
01:20:23.380 Okay.
01:20:23.740 So, what is, like,
01:20:24.520 kind of the offset to that?
01:20:25.800 What are these unique principles
01:20:27.200 which offset that
01:20:28.160 that you would bring?
01:20:29.600 I think that the big one
01:20:30.800 is, like I said,
01:20:31.500 like being feminine.
01:20:32.580 I feel like,
01:20:33.540 like, let's say,
01:20:35.060 like a real masculine man,
01:20:36.440 there's no femininity in there.
01:20:37.680 There might be small traits
01:20:38.680 of being, like,
01:20:39.420 a provider,
01:20:40.140 like a protector.
01:20:40.800 That's, like,
01:20:41.340 this shows, like,
01:20:42.000 a sense of nurturing
01:20:42.820 in their way.
01:20:44.380 Yeah, what would the offset
01:20:45.340 for something like protection be?
01:20:48.080 That's what I mean.
01:20:49.080 Nurturing.
01:20:49.640 Like, that would be the offset.
01:20:50.620 Well, if you say femininity,
01:20:52.360 the offset that he's already
01:20:53.420 bringing is masculinity, right?
01:20:56.060 Yeah.
01:20:56.400 Okay.
01:20:56.580 Can I ask a question?
01:20:58.620 Yeah.
01:20:59.240 So, you're married, right?
01:21:01.040 Yeah.
01:21:02.520 What traits did you look for
01:21:04.000 in your wife?
01:21:04.600 Like, why did you decide
01:21:05.660 to pick her?
01:21:08.020 Well, that's kind of complex,
01:21:10.180 but I can give you
01:21:11.040 the major reason.
01:21:13.160 Okay.
01:21:13.820 The major reason
01:21:14.960 is that I knew for sure
01:21:16.160 that she would be
01:21:16.740 a wonderful mother
01:21:17.440 to my children.
01:21:18.460 More than anything else,
01:21:19.480 I knew that she was going
01:21:20.380 to be a wonderful mother
01:21:22.400 to my children
01:21:23.060 and that she was going
01:21:24.500 to obey.
01:21:25.900 So, those were two big.
01:21:29.440 Yeah, I don't know
01:21:30.380 why that's funny to you.
01:21:31.700 Like, do you think that
01:21:33.660 men want disobedient,
01:21:35.020 willful women
01:21:35.620 because they don't?
01:21:36.360 They don't want that.
01:21:37.040 They don't like that shit.
01:21:38.080 I thought it was
01:21:38.980 sounding very sweet
01:21:40.160 and then the obey thing
01:21:41.380 was like, whoa.
01:21:42.640 What's not sweet
01:21:43.700 about the obey thing?
01:21:46.140 I don't know.
01:21:47.220 It's the way you said it.
01:21:48.020 It's the word choice.
01:21:49.020 It's the word choice.
01:21:50.560 Wait, don't you like
01:21:51.380 traditional relationships?
01:21:54.040 I said it's the word choice.
01:21:55.540 So, he might have meant
01:21:56.580 like somebody
01:21:57.200 who's more submissive.
01:21:58.460 There's nothing wrong
01:21:59.020 with that.
01:21:59.440 No, I meant somebody
01:22:00.240 who will obey my commands.
01:22:01.400 Yeah, I know you're exaggerating
01:22:02.920 but there's no way.
01:22:04.420 There's no way.
01:22:05.580 I don't believe it.
01:22:07.760 I don't believe it.
01:22:08.580 There's no way.
01:22:09.300 I don't know.
01:22:09.800 So, I don't know why
01:22:11.300 people think
01:22:12.460 that this is so unrealistic.
01:22:14.440 Yes, what I literally mean
01:22:16.200 in actuality is
01:22:17.540 I give command,
01:22:18.960 you obey command.
01:22:20.140 In actuality.
01:22:21.520 I want to say something.
01:22:22.600 I want to say something
01:22:23.760 regarding this.
01:22:24.640 I grew up in the Middle East
01:22:27.740 and what Andrew say,
01:22:31.180 even the women in Israel
01:22:32.820 where I come from,
01:22:33.780 they all like dress sexy
01:22:35.820 and look good
01:22:36.520 and go to the army.
01:22:37.800 All of them,
01:22:38.860 when they go into relationship,
01:22:40.280 except the radical feminists,
01:22:42.240 of course,
01:22:42.960 but the majority of women,
01:22:44.760 okay,
01:22:45.600 they all,
01:22:46.100 they have like an excitement
01:22:48.080 to obey their men,
01:22:50.100 to cook for him,
01:22:51.340 to love him,
01:22:52.320 to do his errands,
01:22:53.520 to take care of the kids.
01:22:55.080 I think for me personally,
01:22:56.940 like if I have a man
01:22:57.780 that I love in my life,
01:22:59.600 to obey to him
01:23:00.720 and to even worship him.
01:23:02.560 For me,
01:23:02.900 my man is my king,
01:23:04.140 right?
01:23:04.680 So, for me,
01:23:05.380 it's exciting.
01:23:06.080 It's arousing.
01:23:06.900 It's everything mentally.
01:23:08.300 So, here in America,
01:23:09.620 like she said,
01:23:10.320 like when a guy said,
01:23:11.920 I want my woman to obey me,
01:23:13.880 they're like,
01:23:14.320 what the hell?
01:23:15.420 Because you're so used to
01:23:17.020 being independent
01:23:18.600 and feminist mentality.
01:23:20.340 Like, oh my God,
01:23:21.160 no,
01:23:21.400 he's not going to tell me
01:23:22.120 what to do.
01:23:22.500 I'm going to do what I want.
01:23:23.400 Like, for the woman,
01:23:24.640 everything,
01:23:25.340 what you call feminism,
01:23:28.180 to us,
01:23:29.280 it's like literally
01:23:30.380 disrespecting men,
01:23:31.620 hating men.
01:23:32.720 You guys treating men
01:23:33.780 like they're only
01:23:34.560 an ATM machine.
01:23:35.680 What you can get out of them,
01:23:37.220 how you can play them,
01:23:38.200 how you can manipulate them.
01:23:39.680 For American women,
01:23:40.980 unfortunately,
01:23:41.940 that's the mentality.
01:23:43.340 You guys trained
01:23:44.680 to have this
01:23:45.660 prostitute mentality
01:23:46.640 since an early age.
01:23:47.720 you see girls like,
01:23:49.060 oh, buy me this,
01:23:49.780 take me there,
01:23:50.260 pay me this.
01:23:50.980 Hang on, hang on.
01:23:51.900 Let us briefly
01:23:52.820 finish the exchange
01:23:53.980 because we were
01:23:54.840 tangling on the exchange.
01:23:56.860 And I thought that
01:23:57.300 it was a fair question
01:23:58.160 to ask, right?
01:23:58.860 Like, what are the traits
01:23:59.620 that you wanted in your wife?
01:24:00.600 So, let me explain
01:24:02.040 so that you understand
01:24:02.920 why it was
01:24:03.600 that I valued what I did.
01:24:04.860 Yeah.
01:24:05.440 When I was in my early 20s,
01:24:07.220 I knew a woman
01:24:08.040 who had a baby
01:24:09.380 and I remember
01:24:10.680 visiting with her
01:24:11.820 with another friend of mine
01:24:13.020 because I knew her
01:24:14.000 from school.
01:24:15.420 And I remember
01:24:16.300 her changing the baby
01:24:17.280 and the baby had
01:24:17.980 a horrible diaper rash,
01:24:19.520 awful diaper rash.
01:24:21.140 Didn't look like
01:24:21.800 it was very well
01:24:22.600 taken care of.
01:24:23.980 It looked like
01:24:24.560 a pretty bad situation
01:24:25.800 ultimately.
01:24:26.480 And I remember thinking
01:24:27.160 in my head
01:24:27.700 right then and there,
01:24:29.120 there's no way, right?
01:24:30.700 The one thing
01:24:31.220 that I would value
01:24:31.880 above anything else
01:24:32.720 when I have children,
01:24:33.520 I want my kids
01:24:34.200 always clean.
01:24:35.700 Always clean,
01:24:36.600 always dressed.
01:24:37.440 I want them
01:24:37.800 always well fed.
01:24:39.060 And I want to never
01:24:39.700 have to worry about that.
01:24:40.780 I never want to have
01:24:41.400 to ever worry
01:24:42.400 that mom is so fucking lazy
01:24:44.400 or so into herself
01:24:46.560 that she's valuing herself
01:24:48.020 over my child, right?
01:24:49.620 That was a big,
01:24:51.360 that was a big thing
01:24:52.460 for me, right?
01:24:53.180 Having seen
01:24:53.900 what I would only consider
01:24:56.080 child neglect firsthand,
01:24:58.140 I was not ever going
01:24:59.100 to deal with that.
01:24:59.920 So that was the big thing
01:25:01.280 that I valued
01:25:01.880 more than anything else.
01:25:02.920 But I also wanted
01:25:03.780 what you would call
01:25:04.460 submission,
01:25:05.120 which would be
01:25:05.540 an obedient wife,
01:25:07.140 meaning that there was
01:25:07.940 a threshold break
01:25:08.660 in the relationship.
01:25:09.360 We could not come
01:25:10.020 to an agreement
01:25:10.760 on a pinnacle situation
01:25:12.080 or a pinnacle,
01:25:13.460 you know,
01:25:15.020 crossing of the hill,
01:25:16.960 as it were,
01:25:17.980 that I was going
01:25:18.920 to be the threshold breaker.
01:25:20.760 Essentially,
01:25:21.240 when I said,
01:25:21.780 okay, we can't agree,
01:25:22.780 but we're going
01:25:23.100 to have to do this anyway,
01:25:24.240 that I was going
01:25:24.720 to be the one
01:25:25.200 who made that decision.
01:25:26.700 And that's what
01:25:27.200 obedience is.
01:25:28.600 And so, yes,
01:25:29.180 I think that these
01:25:29.920 are traits
01:25:30.580 that men select for
01:25:31.700 and that we care
01:25:33.980 an awful lot about.
01:25:35.700 And so in order
01:25:36.320 to do that,
01:25:36.860 we have to select
01:25:37.460 for women
01:25:37.960 who are going
01:25:39.000 to self-sacrifice
01:25:41.240 for their husband
01:25:42.060 and their family
01:25:42.780 more than themselves.
01:25:44.220 And so there's
01:25:44.540 all sorts of like
01:25:45.140 micro-traits,
01:25:46.100 which is what we're
01:25:46.640 asking these questions
01:25:47.540 about.
01:25:48.120 What do you bring
01:25:48.840 to the table?
01:25:50.000 Basically,
01:25:50.520 what's great about you?
01:25:52.020 The idea here
01:25:52.940 is to make the determination
01:25:54.140 of is there so many
01:25:56.360 of these kind of
01:25:56.820 tangential traits
01:25:57.780 that if a man
01:25:58.920 were to have children
01:25:59.780 with you,
01:26:00.680 are you going
01:26:01.140 to fuck his kids up?
01:26:02.920 Are you going
01:26:03.560 to mess his kids up?
01:26:04.380 Are you not going
01:26:04.780 to take care of them well?
01:26:06.000 Are you going
01:26:06.420 to be so narcissistically
01:26:07.680 into yourself
01:26:08.480 that you don't
01:26:10.340 even pay attention
01:26:11.020 to them, right?
01:26:11.740 This is what men
01:26:12.940 are looking for.
01:26:14.040 So that's why
01:26:14.720 the questions are asked.
01:26:15.960 Thank you.
01:26:17.160 I'm sorry.
01:26:18.000 Okay, so I just
01:26:18.800 wanted to say,
01:26:20.160 how do you figure out
01:26:21.880 if someone's obedient?
01:26:23.240 Like, did you earn
01:26:23.960 the obedience
01:26:24.600 or were you like,
01:26:27.040 are you obedient?
01:26:27.840 Like, how did you
01:26:28.240 figure that out?
01:26:28.840 Because I'd like
01:26:29.700 to share my situation.
01:26:30.880 I talked to her
01:26:31.280 on the first date.
01:26:32.260 Yeah, you're like.
01:26:32.820 These are the things,
01:26:33.760 these are the qualities
01:26:34.460 that I'm looking for, right?
01:26:36.220 If there's something
01:26:37.020 that I think
01:26:38.600 ought to be done
01:26:39.520 and you're resistant
01:26:41.220 to that thing,
01:26:42.760 I don't want
01:26:44.160 to have a long-term
01:26:45.560 relationship with you.
01:26:46.940 I was just as blunt
01:26:48.240 with my wife
01:26:48.960 as I am
01:26:49.520 with everybody
01:26:50.140 I meet in life.
01:26:51.100 Very clear,
01:26:51.820 crystal clear
01:26:52.280 about the things
01:26:53.120 that I want
01:26:54.100 and the expectations
01:26:55.360 that I have.
01:26:56.420 And you know what?
01:26:57.120 In comparison
01:26:58.440 to modernity,
01:26:59.620 the expectations
01:27:00.240 that I had
01:27:00.880 were super high.
01:27:02.120 Very, very high expectations.
01:27:03.480 And she came
01:27:04.080 with some problems
01:27:04.700 of her own
01:27:05.160 but I felt like
01:27:07.000 the trade-off
01:27:07.460 was fine
01:27:08.040 considering my expectations
01:27:09.760 were so high
01:27:10.720 and she was willing
01:27:12.720 to meet those expectations.
01:27:14.540 Yeah, I think
01:27:15.280 I want to add something
01:27:16.600 to
01:27:16.980 I just wanted
01:27:17.560 to share my story
01:27:18.600 with that.
01:27:19.320 Because you're talking
01:27:20.260 about how like
01:27:20.780 Americans like
01:27:21.540 don't like
01:27:22.580 doing whatever.
01:27:23.820 Yeah, the interruptions.
01:27:24.420 Anyways, yeah.
01:27:25.300 So basically
01:27:26.620 I was,
01:27:29.620 my two-year relationship
01:27:30.640 it was,
01:27:33.080 we took on
01:27:33.780 more traditional roles.
01:27:35.640 I would make dinner
01:27:36.980 for him
01:27:37.660 and like
01:27:38.140 I'd wake up early
01:27:39.320 and make him coffee
01:27:40.200 and stuff
01:27:40.740 but
01:27:41.060 and I learned
01:27:42.060 to like trust him
01:27:43.000 and listen to him
01:27:43.800 but it wasn't
01:27:44.540 because he was like
01:27:45.520 obey me,
01:27:47.260 go do this for me,
01:27:48.340 go do this for me.
01:27:49.160 Like, I'm telling you
01:27:50.400 what to do.
01:27:50.940 It was more like
01:27:51.700 he would give me
01:27:52.920 a suggestion
01:27:53.680 and I'd be like
01:27:54.640 actually I don't think
01:27:56.700 I'm going to do that.
01:27:57.380 I think I'm going to
01:27:57.800 do my own thing
01:27:58.600 but sometimes
01:28:00.500 I would end up
01:28:01.640 messing up
01:28:02.360 and I'd be like
01:28:03.320 huh, maybe I should
01:28:04.780 have listened
01:28:05.240 and then that would
01:28:06.580 keep happening
01:28:07.320 until I learned
01:28:08.640 to trust his opinion
01:28:09.700 and so
01:28:10.760 I was just like
01:28:11.620 you know what
01:28:12.060 oh like
01:28:13.240 yeah, you're kind of
01:28:14.160 usually right
01:28:14.840 like so I think
01:28:15.980 I'll just listen to it
01:28:16.900 and obviously like
01:28:18.300 Oh, perfect.
01:28:18.980 Like he had to
01:28:19.420 trick you into
01:28:19.920 submission?
01:28:21.040 No, no.
01:28:21.980 It's not
01:28:22.540 Great.
01:28:23.880 Right?
01:28:24.640 Well, okay.
01:28:25.180 Maybe a woman
01:28:26.200 would like to be
01:28:26.720 tricked into submission.
01:28:27.960 Manipulated.
01:28:28.340 It's not a trick though.
01:28:29.440 Yeah, I'm secretly
01:28:30.100 submitting
01:28:30.580 but in reality
01:28:31.660 I'm going
01:28:32.400 no, I'm not
01:28:33.220 going to submit
01:28:33.880 F off
01:28:35.100 even though I'm
01:28:35.600 telling you
01:28:36.000 that I'm going to
01:28:36.740 and then when I
01:28:37.620 just fail
01:28:38.340 over and over
01:28:39.140 and over
01:28:39.580 well then
01:28:40.620 I learned
01:28:41.340 that I'm incompetent
01:28:42.560 and so therefore
01:28:43.120 should listen to you.
01:28:44.220 That does not
01:28:45.100 sound awesome to me.
01:28:46.340 That sounds
01:28:47.140 fucking awful to me
01:28:48.780 and I would rather
01:28:49.540 pull my teeth out
01:28:50.360 with a pair of pliers
01:28:51.260 than deal with a woman
01:28:52.080 that I had to trick
01:28:52.920 into submission.
01:28:53.800 It sounds terrible.
01:28:54.620 Wait, so you think
01:28:55.800 that it's not okay
01:28:56.660 to make mistakes?
01:28:58.300 No, I didn't say
01:28:59.060 it's not okay
01:28:59.540 to make mistakes.
01:29:00.140 You said that
01:29:03.300 you had an agreement
01:29:04.200 with this guy
01:29:04.960 that you were
01:29:05.800 going to do
01:29:06.180 the things
01:29:06.540 that he said.
01:29:07.440 No, no, no, no, no.
01:29:08.360 There was no agreement.
01:29:09.000 There's no agreement.
01:29:10.000 Hang on, hang on, hang on.
01:29:11.240 Then you can correct.
01:29:12.780 You said he'd tell you
01:29:13.380 to do something
01:29:13.900 and you'd say okay
01:29:14.760 but then you secretly
01:29:16.160 wouldn't really do it.
01:29:17.620 No.
01:29:17.880 You would secretly resist it
01:29:19.380 and then you'd do it
01:29:20.400 your own way
01:29:20.940 and then when you
01:29:21.260 fucked it up
01:29:22.040 then when you
01:29:22.880 fucked it up
01:29:23.560 he'd come in
01:29:24.040 and be like
01:29:24.460 oh, you fucked that up
01:29:25.580 and he went yeah
01:29:26.360 and so over time
01:29:27.480 he started to listen to him.
01:29:28.620 What did I get wrong there?
01:29:30.140 You get wrong
01:29:31.060 that we had an agreement
01:29:32.220 and that I was
01:29:34.440 And what was the agreement
01:29:35.520 that you were going
01:29:36.000 to listen to him?
01:29:36.700 No, no, there's no agreement.
01:29:38.140 It was more just like
01:29:39.080 consulting me
01:29:40.400 on like
01:29:40.720 I would come to him
01:29:41.720 for advice.
01:29:43.160 How are you saying
01:29:44.040 there was an agreement
01:29:45.140 and then in the next
01:29:45.980 though there was no agreement?
01:29:47.080 I don't recall saying
01:29:47.640 there was an agreement.
01:29:48.580 I just said we took on
01:29:49.640 traditional roles
01:29:50.480 like slowly
01:29:51.220 and it's not
01:29:53.060 because he told me to.
01:29:54.580 There's no agreement.
01:29:55.440 We were just dating.
01:29:56.600 It was just nice.
01:29:57.280 I like taking care of him.
01:29:58.280 But you just said
01:29:59.600 there was an agreement.
01:30:00.320 I know what you're
01:30:01.060 trying to say
01:30:01.720 that you learned
01:30:02.520 during the relationship
01:30:03.680 that it was rewarding
01:30:04.980 to listen to him
01:30:05.760 but I think what
01:30:06.640 Andrew is saying
01:30:07.620 is like
01:30:08.160 a lot of men
01:30:09.560 don't want
01:30:10.260 like a woman
01:30:11.580 that is going to be
01:30:12.200 like a small child
01:30:13.480 that needs to be taught
01:30:14.540 to listen
01:30:15.820 and trust a partner.
01:30:17.100 Yeah, I don't want
01:30:17.740 to have to roll up
01:30:18.480 a newspaper
01:30:19.080 and smack you
01:30:20.040 on the nose
01:30:20.540 and be like no.
01:30:21.840 I don't want to have
01:30:22.520 to roll up a newspaper
01:30:23.540 and be like no.
01:30:24.580 But I have sympathy
01:30:25.640 for you
01:30:26.320 because
01:30:26.900 That sounds pretty
01:30:28.320 that sounds awful.
01:30:29.200 If you've never
01:30:30.140 maybe I'm not going
01:30:31.480 to make any assumptions
01:30:32.260 but from my own
01:30:34.140 you know experience
01:30:35.300 if you've not had
01:30:36.080 like a fantastic
01:30:37.080 father figure
01:30:37.840 that puts that trust
01:30:39.100 into you
01:30:39.780 it can be difficult
01:30:40.900 when you go
01:30:41.360 into a relationship
01:30:42.140 to go well
01:30:42.680 why should I listen
01:30:43.460 to this person
01:30:44.160 but you also want
01:30:45.820 a man who's going
01:30:46.580 to be you know
01:30:46.940 this gladiator
01:30:47.740 that's going
01:30:48.140 to protect you
01:30:48.860 but if you
01:30:49.720 if you were
01:30:50.480 you know
01:30:51.020 with a soldier
01:30:51.600 and he said
01:30:52.080 do this
01:30:52.500 you would obey
01:30:53.160 but if you're
01:30:54.380 with a man
01:30:54.840 you want him
01:30:55.260 to protect you
01:30:55.860 and provide for you
01:30:56.460 but you also
01:30:56.880 don't want to obey him
01:30:57.740 it's just
01:30:58.100 I have a question
01:30:59.300 for you
01:30:59.800 if a man
01:31:00.620 tells you
01:31:01.500 to go just like
01:31:03.760 jump off a bridge
01:31:05.240 and you're like
01:31:06.160 I'm going to be
01:31:06.800 your wife
01:31:06.900 This is out of context
01:31:08.000 This is like
01:31:10.440 the bad thing
01:31:11.180 Can I answer you
01:31:12.080 I wanted to say something
01:31:14.500 I think that's a jump
01:31:15.600 like a big jump
01:31:16.680 to go from this topic
01:31:17.760 to a question
01:31:18.400 Hang on
01:31:19.320 Hang on
01:31:20.240 Arlena
01:31:21.620 No I'm sorry
01:31:23.160 Is it Kydra?
01:31:24.920 Kybra
01:31:25.360 Kybra
01:31:26.640 Kybra
01:31:28.320 Yeah it's like
01:31:28.940 Ky and bra
01:31:29.700 Kybra
01:31:30.380 Y'all have these
01:31:31.860 fucking goofy
01:31:32.600 goofy names
01:31:33.300 but anyway
01:31:33.800 Kybra
01:31:34.560 Go ahead and finish
01:31:36.060 your point
01:31:36.480 Your point was to say
01:31:37.760 that what if a guy
01:31:40.100 asked you to jump
01:31:40.700 off a bridge
01:31:41.220 right?
01:31:42.660 Well
01:31:43.140 the point I was
01:31:44.240 trying to make
01:31:44.760 is that
01:31:45.340 these weren't things
01:31:47.700 that were like
01:31:48.320 he was asking me
01:31:49.800 to do for him
01:31:50.800 it was me
01:31:51.980 coming to him
01:31:53.040 or like
01:31:54.240 I would
01:31:54.560 let's say like
01:31:55.260 it's like
01:31:56.340 oh should I get
01:31:57.080 this orange
01:31:57.680 or should I get
01:31:58.700 this like
01:31:59.300 car car orange
01:32:00.800 or this orange
01:32:01.460 he says get the
01:32:02.560 car car
01:32:03.020 or like you know
01:32:03.880 I don't know
01:32:04.260 it's something
01:32:04.780 very like small
01:32:05.680 but I just learned
01:32:06.680 to trust him
01:32:07.360 and I don't know
01:32:07.980 where the father
01:32:08.820 figure thing
01:32:09.400 comes up
01:32:09.940 you know
01:32:10.440 like if someone
01:32:11.020 gives you bad
01:32:11.780 if someone
01:32:12.300 gives you bad
01:32:12.920 advice
01:32:13.500 then you're
01:32:15.100 not gonna
01:32:15.480 wanna learn
01:32:16.280 to like
01:32:16.800 follow that
01:32:17.700 advice
01:32:18.060 but if someone
01:32:18.600 consistently
01:32:19.260 gives you good
01:32:19.960 advice
01:32:20.440 then you're
01:32:20.800 gonna be like
01:32:21.160 yeah this guy
01:32:21.800 this guy
01:32:22.520 has good
01:32:22.760 advice
01:32:23.060 I'll listen
01:32:23.440 to this
01:32:23.680 advice
01:32:23.920 well yeah
01:32:24.180 to answer your
01:32:24.760 question
01:32:25.060 if my boyfriend
01:32:25.940 told me to jump
01:32:26.820 off a cliff
01:32:27.340 I would trust him
01:32:28.380 and do it
01:32:28.800 because it would
01:32:29.200 probably be like
01:32:30.060 the right thing
01:32:30.660 like there's a bear
01:32:31.440 behind us
01:32:32.020 and there's a
01:32:32.360 trampoline below us
01:32:33.580 can I
01:32:35.740 can I say
01:32:36.380 something
01:32:36.720 so no
01:32:36.940 but
01:32:37.180 what your question
01:32:38.660 was
01:32:39.360 not even my
01:32:39.980 guys
01:32:40.260 jump off
01:32:40.780 a cliff
01:32:43.060 I would
01:32:43.560 because it would
01:32:44.180 probably be the
01:32:44.980 right advice
01:32:45.520 this is every
01:32:46.120 man's fantasy
01:32:46.800 because this
01:32:47.440 I know what you
01:32:48.160 mean when you
01:32:48.680 ask that question
01:32:49.280 you're not
01:32:49.640 trying to
01:32:50.100 it's not a
01:32:51.040 stupid question
01:32:51.580 it's like
01:32:52.020 would you trust
01:32:53.020 him blindly
01:32:53.580 is what you're
01:32:54.060 asking
01:32:54.380 and I would
01:32:55.800 trust him
01:32:56.480 blindly
01:32:57.100 can I answer
01:32:58.180 you
01:32:58.420 please
01:32:59.220 yeah
01:32:59.560 well it's
01:33:01.140 not black
01:33:01.640 and white
01:33:02.120 okay
01:33:02.840 yeah
01:33:03.220 if you're
01:33:03.940 a real
01:33:05.040 woman
01:33:05.320 and you're
01:33:05.700 passionate
01:33:06.200 about the
01:33:06.720 relationship
01:33:07.280 and about
01:33:07.780 having kids
01:33:08.460 and get
01:33:08.780 married
01:33:09.100 and be
01:33:09.460 with your
01:33:09.740 man
01:33:09.960 with everything
01:33:10.960 and it's
01:33:11.940 rock solid
01:33:13.220 strong
01:33:14.240 so even
01:33:15.420 if you have
01:33:15.740 the little
01:33:16.120 obstacle
01:33:16.640 or a problem
01:33:17.680 you're not
01:33:18.340 going to say
01:33:18.600 oh I don't
01:33:19.060 want to be
01:33:19.320 with him
01:33:19.560 I'm getting
01:33:19.860 divorced
01:33:20.160 and you're
01:33:20.960 not going
01:33:21.220 to think
01:33:21.440 about the
01:33:21.780 kids first
01:33:22.360 okay
01:33:22.880 if you have
01:33:23.540 a real
01:33:23.900 relationship
01:33:24.580 right
01:33:25.160 and no matter
01:33:26.580 what's going
01:33:27.020 to come
01:33:27.320 in your way
01:33:27.980 the relationship
01:33:28.840 and the kids
01:33:29.500 and the family
01:33:30.000 is going to
01:33:30.360 come first
01:33:31.000 well no it's
01:33:31.920 actually easier
01:33:32.880 so here's my
01:33:34.620 answer to this
01:33:35.360 but wait let me
01:33:35.900 finish my point
01:33:36.720 go ahead
01:33:37.280 go ahead
01:33:37.780 make your points
01:33:39.680 a little
01:33:39.920 okay
01:33:40.120 and she
01:33:41.800 said
01:33:42.400 no are you
01:33:43.840 going to
01:33:44.120 jump off
01:33:44.580 the cliff
01:33:44.940 no of course
01:33:45.700 not
01:33:46.060 if you're
01:33:46.500 with a man
01:33:46.840 that protects
01:33:47.360 you and love
01:33:47.760 you he's not
01:33:48.220 going to let
01:33:48.720 you do crazy
01:33:49.420 things not
01:33:49.960 jump off the
01:33:50.480 cliff and he's
01:33:50.960 not going to
01:33:51.280 put you out
01:33:51.740 there
01:33:51.940 that's what
01:33:52.120 I'm saying
01:33:52.540 once you know
01:33:53.440 and trust them
01:33:54.420 yes listen to
01:33:55.280 them but when
01:33:55.700 you're first
01:33:56.340 starting the
01:33:56.900 relationship
01:33:57.520 this is the
01:33:58.440 problem
01:33:58.820 this is the
01:33:59.700 problem with
01:34:00.260 the secular
01:34:00.700 perspective
01:34:01.280 let me finish
01:34:01.980 and even her
01:34:03.580 perspective here
01:34:05.060 I disagree with
01:34:05.780 right
01:34:06.020 so
01:34:06.560 no but my
01:34:07.740 point is
01:34:08.380 that you
01:34:08.680 look I'm
01:34:09.120 sorry that I
01:34:09.780 cut in
01:34:10.460 and I'm
01:34:11.360 cutting you
01:34:11.880 off
01:34:12.180 I'm sorry
01:34:12.800 that I
01:34:14.040 interrupted
01:34:14.520 your interruption
01:34:15.300 I'm sorry
01:34:16.540 about that
01:34:17.040 but I would
01:34:18.900 like to just
01:34:19.460 briefly cut in
01:34:20.320 here and
01:34:21.280 answer your
01:34:22.100 question
01:34:22.440 you're talking
01:34:23.200 about a value
01:34:23.920 structure so
01:34:24.800 as we were
01:34:25.980 tangling on
01:34:26.640 this me and
01:34:27.440 is it
01:34:28.740 let me see
01:34:29.300 I think I got
01:34:29.820 the I didn't
01:34:31.100 get your name
01:34:31.560 British chick
01:34:32.140 what's your
01:34:32.460 name
01:34:32.740 on the right
01:34:33.660 what is it
01:34:34.920 Ruby
01:34:35.620 okay
01:34:37.200 so the reason
01:34:38.660 I was laughing
01:34:39.220 when you said
01:34:39.680 the bridge
01:34:40.120 jumping thing
01:34:41.420 is because
01:34:42.080 commands or
01:34:43.520 things like this
01:34:44.260 or abeyance
01:34:45.040 has to comport
01:34:45.880 with reason
01:34:46.440 which is why
01:34:46.860 the value
01:34:47.340 structure of
01:34:47.900 the two people
01:34:48.580 being compatible
01:34:49.660 is what's
01:34:50.120 necessary
01:34:50.580 so I don't
01:34:51.420 even know
01:34:51.900 how I would
01:34:52.360 navigate a
01:34:52.900 relationship
01:34:53.400 with a secular
01:34:54.140 atheist for
01:34:54.880 instance
01:34:55.200 but from a
01:34:55.720 Christian paradigm
01:34:56.480 the value set
01:34:57.760 is the same
01:34:58.400 meaning they're
01:34:59.360 going to know
01:34:59.720 what comports
01:35:00.240 with reason
01:35:00.820 because if
01:35:01.460 you give
01:35:01.760 them some
01:35:02.580 type of
01:35:03.060 command
01:35:03.420 which is
01:35:04.080 to sin
01:35:04.860 or something
01:35:05.300 like this
01:35:05.920 they don't
01:35:06.640 they're not
01:35:07.400 obligated to
01:35:08.100 obey such
01:35:08.640 a command
01:35:08.960 because it
01:35:09.260 no longer
01:35:09.620 comports
01:35:10.040 with reason
01:35:10.600 right
01:35:10.920 so that's
01:35:11.920 that's how
01:35:12.440 you that's
01:35:13.120 how you can
01:35:13.540 associate the
01:35:14.180 value sets
01:35:14.900 with the
01:35:15.780 commands
01:35:16.180 and how you
01:35:17.180 know whether
01:35:17.520 or not it's
01:35:18.000 okay for
01:35:18.440 someone to
01:35:18.860 ask you to
01:35:19.400 jump off a
01:35:20.060 bridge under
01:35:20.500 jagged rocks
01:35:21.300 right
01:35:21.580 I don't think
01:35:22.500 I don't think
01:35:22.940 it's any more
01:35:23.400 complex than
01:35:24.040 that
01:35:24.300 okay
01:35:24.860 now I'm
01:35:25.980 sorry that
01:35:26.840 I caught
01:35:27.140 in Sheena
01:35:27.660 go ahead
01:35:28.280 Sheena
01:35:28.660 go ahead
01:35:29.760 the floor
01:35:30.220 I agree
01:35:31.100 with you
01:35:31.460 most of
01:35:31.960 the time
01:35:32.340 99%
01:35:33.340 no I wanted
01:35:35.280 to say that
01:35:35.820 it's naturally
01:35:36.540 things happen
01:35:37.200 naturally
01:35:37.640 it's not like
01:35:38.240 black and white
01:35:38.640 you're not going
01:35:38.960 to come and
01:35:39.340 make a plan
01:35:39.780 oh if he's
01:35:40.300 do this
01:35:40.660 I'm doing
01:35:41.040 this
01:35:41.300 it's not a
01:35:41.840 transactional
01:35:43.100 thinking
01:35:44.040 way of thinking
01:35:44.820 things happen
01:35:45.820 naturally
01:35:46.180 you love someone
01:35:46.840 you want to do
01:35:47.380 for them
01:35:47.800 even if sometimes
01:35:48.520 you don't like
01:35:49.100 to do the
01:35:49.560 things
01:35:49.880 and that's it
01:35:50.940 it's not like
01:35:51.680 you do this
01:35:52.180 I do that
01:35:52.660 you're not
01:35:52.960 calculating
01:35:53.540 you're not in a
01:35:54.200 relationship
01:35:54.580 to calculate
01:35:55.260 24-7
01:35:56.100 you literally
01:35:57.200 just go with
01:35:57.980 the flow
01:35:58.380 and give
01:35:59.360 the whole point
01:36:00.340 in life
01:36:00.960 when you're in
01:36:01.660 a relationship
01:36:02.120 it's first
01:36:02.920 to give
01:36:03.420 and not to
01:36:03.920 take
01:36:04.200 when you're
01:36:04.860 in this
01:36:05.160 paradigm
01:36:05.520 everything
01:36:05.920 is easier
01:36:06.520 but
01:36:07.740 unfortunately
01:36:08.820 here I see
01:36:09.460 a lot of
01:36:09.760 people who
01:36:10.100 just want
01:36:10.420 to take
01:36:10.680 take
01:36:10.880 take
01:36:11.060 that's
01:36:11.360 why
01:36:11.460 they
01:36:11.600 lose
01:36:11.840 their
01:36:12.020 values
01:36:12.480 all right
01:36:13.320 we have
01:36:13.600 got
01:36:13.880 got
01:36:14.620 booped
01:36:14.960 for men
01:36:15.560 life is
01:36:15.940 a burden
01:36:16.220 something
01:36:16.560 women
01:36:16.860 don't
01:36:17.220 seem
01:36:17.520 to
01:36:17.980 understand
01:36:18.940 thank you
01:36:19.420 got
01:36:19.580 booped
01:36:19.760 appreciate
01:36:20.100 the
01:36:20.400 the message
01:36:22.120 I do
01:36:23.660 I did
01:36:24.160 have a
01:36:24.420 follow-up
01:36:24.720 for this
01:36:24.960 girl over
01:36:25.280 here
01:36:25.460 but it
01:36:25.880 seems like
01:36:26.360 she's gone
01:36:26.720 to the
01:36:26.940 bathroom
01:36:27.260 so we'll
01:36:28.560 come back
01:36:28.940 to that
01:36:29.340 in just
01:36:29.880 a moment
01:36:30.260 but going
01:36:31.320 over here
01:36:31.660 to Desi
01:36:32.180 Desi you
01:36:32.700 said you
01:36:33.100 wanted to
01:36:34.560 talk about
01:36:34.900 dating a
01:36:35.280 bad boy
01:36:35.700 who had
01:36:36.060 an ankle
01:36:36.880 monitor
01:36:37.300 I think
01:36:40.240 that was
01:36:40.820 last
01:36:41.360 summer
01:36:42.060 before
01:36:43.660 this
01:36:44.000 relationship
01:36:44.680 I was
01:36:45.240 dating a
01:36:45.900 guy on
01:36:47.600 an ankle
01:36:47.920 monitor
01:36:48.440 okay
01:36:50.400 but I
01:36:51.360 didn't
01:36:51.580 know
01:36:51.900 we had
01:36:53.120 met like
01:36:53.500 on a
01:36:53.780 dating
01:36:54.040 app
01:36:54.400 but he
01:36:55.460 was so
01:36:55.840 cute
01:36:56.140 he was
01:36:56.460 like a
01:36:56.700 model
01:36:56.940 guy
01:36:57.280 he didn't
01:36:58.120 even look
01:36:58.560 like that
01:36:59.100 what was
01:36:59.980 he do
01:37:00.480 you know
01:37:00.620 what crime
01:37:01.260 he was
01:37:01.680 convicted
01:37:02.120 of
01:37:02.420 well he
01:37:03.620 had actually
01:37:04.140 went in
01:37:04.500 like literally
01:37:04.980 right after
01:37:05.480 he graduated
01:37:06.120 so like
01:37:06.720 18
01:37:07.240 and then
01:37:08.580 I think
01:37:09.000 he got
01:37:09.320 out when
01:37:09.540 he was
01:37:09.760 like 24
01:37:10.500 do you know
01:37:11.200 for what
01:37:11.740 was it
01:37:12.320 dealing
01:37:13.460 like a
01:37:14.520 robbery
01:37:14.820 thing
01:37:15.220 but I
01:37:16.260 didn't
01:37:16.660 even know
01:37:17.260 why
01:37:17.500 because when
01:37:17.880 I went
01:37:18.120 over to
01:37:18.700 like his
01:37:19.340 family's
01:37:19.720 house
01:37:19.860 they were
01:37:20.080 like super
01:37:20.460 rich
01:37:20.920 so I was
01:37:22.080 like why
01:37:22.460 are you
01:37:22.780 doing stuff
01:37:23.440 like that
01:37:24.040 okay
01:37:24.920 you also
01:37:25.540 had a
01:37:26.100 story about
01:37:26.920 something
01:37:27.560 about a
01:37:28.260 hand job
01:37:29.180 in the back
01:37:29.600 of an
01:37:29.880 uber
01:37:30.260 that was
01:37:35.020 with my
01:37:35.780 first
01:37:37.420 boyfriend
01:37:37.920 I think
01:37:38.780 we were
01:37:38.960 like 19
01:37:39.620 did they
01:37:42.020 charge you
01:37:42.380 a clean
01:37:42.680 up fee
01:37:43.000 no
01:37:43.780 they didn't
01:37:45.380 even know
01:37:45.860 no
01:37:46.240 they didn't
01:37:47.620 know
01:37:47.920 but like
01:37:48.560 when he
01:37:49.100 you know
01:37:49.720 it like
01:37:50.420 went on
01:37:50.900 the rear view
01:37:51.940 mirror
01:37:52.260 and we were
01:37:53.780 laughing so hard
01:37:54.720 but no
01:37:55.240 they didn't
01:37:55.740 see
01:37:55.980 we were
01:37:59.140 like in
01:37:59.440 the middle
01:37:59.780 of the
01:38:00.040 back seat
01:38:00.640 oh my god
01:38:01.700 that was so
01:38:02.180 long ago
01:38:02.640 were you
01:38:04.460 dated
01:38:04.720 the guy
01:38:05.160 who had
01:38:05.440 the ankle
01:38:05.940 monitor
01:38:06.240 were you
01:38:06.620 dating him
01:38:07.020 when he
01:38:07.320 was in
01:38:08.100 prison
01:38:08.900 no
01:38:09.580 I met
01:38:10.060 him
01:38:10.300 like after
01:38:10.980 he got
01:38:11.860 out of
01:38:12.180 jail
01:38:12.360 and we're
01:38:12.740 like how
01:38:13.100 have we
01:38:13.320 never met
01:38:13.760 because we're
01:38:14.120 in the
01:38:14.320 same city
01:38:14.860 and we're
01:38:15.200 like the
01:38:15.500 same age
01:38:16.200 and then he's
01:38:17.080 like oh
01:38:17.340 I've been
01:38:17.600 in jail
01:38:17.880 this whole
01:38:18.220 time
01:38:18.560 so
01:38:19.380 wait are you
01:38:20.180 still dating
01:38:20.600 him
01:38:20.820 I dated
01:38:22.180 him
01:38:22.580 after I met
01:38:23.200 him
01:38:23.440 for a little
01:38:23.960 while
01:38:24.280 are you
01:38:24.780 still dating
01:38:25.580 him
01:38:25.780 no
01:38:26.060 that was
01:38:27.080 like 2022
01:38:28.200 to 2023
01:38:29.340 and have
01:38:29.940 you ever
01:38:30.260 had a
01:38:30.620 relationship
01:38:31.100 with somebody
01:38:31.700 like who
01:38:32.300 like while
01:38:34.260 they were
01:38:34.740 in prison
01:38:35.540 uh no
01:38:37.980 oh
01:38:38.820 okay
01:38:39.420 uh they
01:38:40.820 were out
01:38:41.660 but they
01:38:42.020 had an
01:38:42.300 ankle
01:38:42.460 monitor
01:38:42.720 okay
01:38:43.220 let's see
01:38:44.580 here
01:38:45.020 uh
01:38:46.040 chelice
01:38:46.780 did I say
01:38:47.340 it right
01:38:47.600 chelice
01:38:48.160 you're married
01:38:49.720 at 19
01:38:50.420 oh we
01:38:51.380 didn't I
01:38:51.660 don't know
01:38:51.880 if we got
01:38:52.220 that during
01:38:52.740 the uh
01:38:54.080 relationships
01:38:54.700 ask but
01:38:55.120 you're married
01:38:55.520 at 19
01:38:56.040 and you
01:38:56.640 got divorced
01:38:57.040 at 22
01:38:57.520 yes
01:38:58.180 all right
01:38:59.120 only marriage
01:39:00.200 though correct
01:39:00.780 no kids
01:39:02.140 I have a kid
01:39:03.120 but not with him
01:39:03.680 oh you have a kid
01:39:04.340 but not with him
01:39:04.860 okay
01:39:05.160 you moved
01:39:06.260 across the U.S.
01:39:07.440 for the marriage
01:39:08.460 uh who
01:39:10.040 initiated
01:39:10.440 the divorce
01:39:11.720 I did
01:39:12.700 okay
01:39:13.420 was there
01:39:14.160 it was a pretty
01:39:14.780 short
01:39:15.200 marriage
01:39:16.780 so three
01:39:17.620 four years
01:39:18.140 was there
01:39:19.440 um
01:39:20.240 did he have
01:39:21.900 to pay
01:39:22.160 any
01:39:22.360 alimony
01:39:22.820 or
01:39:23.580 no
01:39:24.800 it was
01:39:25.080 pretty
01:39:25.320 like
01:39:25.540 amicable
01:39:25.900 like
01:39:26.280 we
01:39:26.440 just
01:39:26.680 separated
01:39:27.440 we really
01:39:27.760 didn't have
01:39:28.160 like a lot
01:39:28.500 of property
01:39:28.920 together
01:39:29.260 or anything
01:39:29.600 like that
01:39:30.140 so like
01:39:30.520 when we
01:39:31.020 divorced
01:39:31.320 it was
01:39:31.600 like really
01:39:31.880 quick
01:39:32.160 and easy
01:39:32.640 it wasn't
01:39:33.760 crazy
01:39:34.100 it was pretty
01:39:34.540 straightforward
01:39:35.220 yeah
01:39:35.580 okay
01:39:35.820 and then
01:39:37.240 uh going
01:39:37.860 back to
01:39:38.640 Tanya
01:39:39.220 you said
01:39:39.980 I believe
01:39:41.440 a man should
01:39:41.840 have the ability
01:39:42.380 to financially
01:39:42.960 support and
01:39:43.460 provide for
01:39:43.860 their partner
01:39:44.200 before entering
01:39:44.900 a committed
01:39:45.820 relationship
01:39:46.400 uh you're 22
01:39:47.720 you're currently
01:39:48.460 in uh
01:39:50.300 university
01:39:51.020 you have another
01:39:51.880 three years
01:39:52.880 is that correct
01:39:53.460 two
01:39:53.640 well you're in
01:39:54.880 your sophomore
01:39:55.500 year right
01:39:56.060 um I'm a
01:39:57.060 transfer student
01:39:57.600 so if I
01:39:58.180 graduate on time
01:39:59.200 I should only
01:39:59.920 be there for
01:40:00.280 two years
01:40:00.580 two more years
01:40:01.180 okay
01:40:01.640 uh so it does
01:40:03.000 stand to reason
01:40:03.620 probably I mean
01:40:04.440 unless you're
01:40:05.160 well I suppose
01:40:05.800 you could date
01:40:06.200 someone out of
01:40:06.660 college certainly
01:40:07.220 but uh most
01:40:08.520 of the men
01:40:08.960 who are in
01:40:10.520 most people um
01:40:11.400 yeah in college
01:40:12.200 don't really
01:40:12.940 at least here
01:40:13.740 don't serious
01:40:15.900 can you speak
01:40:16.540 closer to the
01:40:17.140 mic please
01:40:17.600 okay so
01:40:19.560 you're 22
01:40:20.760 um
01:40:21.720 how long have
01:40:24.160 you had the
01:40:24.580 standard of
01:40:25.340 men should have
01:40:26.700 the ability to
01:40:27.380 financially support
01:40:28.260 uh since my
01:40:30.240 dad told me
01:40:30.940 so since I was
01:40:32.200 little yeah
01:40:33.100 and when did
01:40:34.000 you start at
01:40:34.600 what age did
01:40:35.120 you start dating
01:40:35.700 um well he
01:40:37.160 he'd always talk
01:40:38.220 about like dating
01:40:39.080 and relationships
01:40:39.900 so it's kind of
01:40:40.720 just always been
01:40:41.240 instilled in me
01:40:41.900 but I started
01:40:42.480 dating at 15
01:40:43.340 uh is something
01:40:51.720 going on
01:40:52.320 okay
01:40:54.740 I have a question
01:40:59.260 I have a question
01:40:59.280 for you do you want
01:41:00.180 to be a stay-at-home
01:41:00.840 mom
01:41:01.080 eventually yeah
01:41:02.700 okay so how do
01:41:04.200 you feel about
01:41:04.680 caretaking um
01:41:05.720 homemaking
01:41:06.640 I like that like I
01:41:08.540 like to do that
01:41:09.300 especially like at
01:41:10.680 home I mean
01:41:11.860 obviously like I'm
01:41:12.580 still young so it's
01:41:13.400 like if I don't have
01:41:14.700 the need to do it
01:41:16.060 I'll just get take
01:41:17.120 out and stuff like
01:41:17.640 that but when I
01:41:18.520 know like the time
01:41:19.160 comes like I like to
01:41:19.980 cook like I like to
01:41:20.920 cook like I like to be
01:41:21.760 a hostess I feel like
01:41:22.760 things like that
01:41:23.700 already are great
01:41:25.100 qualities for somebody
01:41:26.160 who wants to be a
01:41:27.320 mom because that
01:41:27.920 comes like it looks
01:41:29.060 like you grew up in a
01:41:29.900 good home yeah I
01:41:31.060 would say so I mean
01:41:31.800 not perfect nobody's
01:41:33.180 perfect doesn't matter
01:41:34.100 nobody's good I mean I
01:41:35.160 had a good like
01:41:36.540 parents that protect
01:41:37.380 you and guide you
01:41:38.560 yeah it's got nothing
01:41:40.120 to do with money it's
01:41:41.000 got to do with values
01:41:41.900 yeah yeah so it's
01:41:44.200 good so what my
01:41:45.720 question is um going
01:41:47.140 back when they asked
01:41:48.200 you what you bring to
01:41:49.380 the table is eventually
01:41:50.760 do you want the
01:41:51.440 traditional role of
01:41:52.860 you're going to be
01:41:53.860 the homemaker you're
01:41:54.880 going to be cooking and
01:41:55.640 cleaning and taking
01:41:56.260 care of the kids while
01:41:57.440 your husband is going
01:41:58.880 to be going to work
01:41:59.880 and providing for you
01:42:00.760 yeah I kind of already
01:42:02.960 have that mentality like
01:42:04.540 once I don't no longer
01:42:05.900 want to work and I
01:42:06.700 want that choice to be
01:42:07.760 like up to me if I
01:42:09.040 don't want to work I
01:42:09.660 don't have to okay so
01:42:11.280 I'll get back to my
01:42:12.100 question so um when
01:42:14.080 did you start dating
01:42:14.780 15 15 and was the
01:42:17.120 expectation at 15 when
01:42:18.720 you're dating guys in
01:42:20.880 high school probably
01:42:21.500 didn't have a job that
01:42:22.260 they should be financially
01:42:24.600 supporting you and
01:42:25.360 providing in whatever
01:42:27.260 way that they can so
01:42:29.460 how would that look
01:42:30.100 even at so at 15 um I
01:42:33.220 mean we both still have
01:42:34.340 the same values like he
01:42:35.800 knew that that's what
01:42:36.800 the expectation is but
01:42:38.300 at 15 like it would
01:42:39.700 just be like him
01:42:40.540 courting me taking me
01:42:41.600 on dates um courting
01:42:44.140 you taking you on
01:42:44.760 treating me like a
01:42:45.560 gentleman you know
01:42:46.460 would um being
01:42:47.780 respectful of me and
01:42:49.280 yeah okay uh so
01:42:52.260 just as far as the
01:42:53.880 being able to
01:42:55.160 financially support and
01:42:56.140 provide uh is that
01:42:59.440 like just paying for
01:43:00.440 dates or was there
01:43:01.320 expectations that he
01:43:02.580 like pay your car
01:43:05.200 bill pay for um
01:43:08.600 trying to think I
01:43:10.740 don't know your nails
01:43:12.260 done stuff like that
01:43:13.400 or no um I wouldn't
01:43:16.940 require like for
01:43:18.480 example like nail
01:43:19.560 stuff like those I
01:43:20.520 think are things that
01:43:21.220 I could take care of
01:43:21.960 myself but it's
01:43:23.100 obviously like a nice
01:43:25.160 gesture if they can and
01:43:27.280 appreciate it I would
01:43:28.740 say more so like those
01:43:29.820 things fall into like
01:43:30.940 once I'm living with
01:43:32.060 somebody that's um like
01:43:34.880 no yeah I would expect
01:43:36.000 them to be able to
01:43:37.580 sustain like household
01:43:40.080 amenities the rent all
01:43:42.140 of that and what's the
01:43:43.540 age range that you
01:43:44.220 want to date that I
01:43:47.180 want to date I'm
01:43:47.680 dating okay how old
01:43:49.580 how old's he the
01:43:52.180 person that I'm dating
01:43:53.020 he's 25 okay um so
01:43:57.700 and before that have
01:44:00.860 you what like have you
01:44:02.300 dated anybody older or
01:44:03.640 um yeah I have I've I
01:44:05.940 mean I've obviously
01:44:06.580 dated before like um
01:44:09.560 I've only dated older
01:44:10.820 okay all right because
01:44:13.080 I was going to say I
01:44:13.700 mean you're 22 you're
01:44:14.560 still in college yeah
01:44:15.700 the expectation that
01:44:17.160 some a man who's in
01:44:18.960 college to financially
01:44:20.800 support and provide
01:44:21.800 could be difficult but
01:44:23.900 it sounds like you do
01:44:24.760 have a tendency to date
01:44:26.040 older men um one
01:44:29.260 question for you going
01:44:30.620 back to some of this
01:44:31.440 conversation around
01:44:32.180 submission you said a
01:44:33.680 man should have the
01:44:35.300 ability to financially
01:44:36.220 support and provide for
01:44:37.160 their partner I want to
01:44:38.240 get a show of hands from
01:44:39.040 the table here should
01:44:40.640 men financially support
01:44:43.100 and provide and protect
01:44:44.440 for their partner show
01:44:45.460 of hands and then now do
01:44:49.620 you agree with the
01:44:50.220 following statement women
01:44:51.680 women should be virgins
01:44:55.440 they should be submissive
01:44:58.600 they should cook they
01:45:00.840 should clean and what
01:45:03.740 else what else should they
01:45:04.560 be I think that's a good
01:45:06.300 those four things they
01:45:07.900 should be virgins they
01:45:09.240 should be submissive then
01:45:10.400 they should cook and they
01:45:11.140 should how about just
01:45:11.740 those two how about just
01:45:12.840 we start with those two
01:45:13.740 just virgin and
01:45:14.500 submissive we can okay
01:45:16.020 we'll keep it to those
01:45:16.780 two any objections from
01:45:18.800 any of the oh the fifth
01:45:19.860 one that I was they should
01:45:21.240 not be involved in sex
01:45:22.240 work uh any objections to
01:45:25.080 the following any of the
01:45:26.700 following
01:45:27.080 by submissive you mean like
01:45:29.520 roles sorry not well but
01:45:31.240 it's like y'all women love
01:45:33.460 to say men should do xyz but
01:45:37.580 if men say women should do
01:45:40.420 xyz all of a sudden it's like
01:45:43.860 whoa that's kind of sexist that
01:45:45.980 you think women should have to
01:45:49.040 clean or should have to cook or
01:45:51.620 should have to take care of the
01:45:52.820 household I think you're
01:45:54.580 describing a perfect woman and
01:45:57.180 then a lot of men a lot of
01:45:58.780 women are describing a perfect
01:46:00.340 man they are one of a man
01:46:01.400 who's strong and going to
01:46:02.120 protect me and he's loyal and
01:46:03.440 he's got these christian
01:46:04.780 values and he's got lots of
01:46:05.980 money and he's going to pay
01:46:06.720 for me to get my nails done
01:46:07.640 you know and all that kind of
01:46:08.560 stuff and I think what you're
01:46:09.460 describing would be you know a
01:46:11.160 very perfect woman and we
01:46:12.560 obviously live in a real world
01:46:13.620 where a lot of people aren't
01:46:14.820 perfect but I don't think the
01:46:16.900 idea of that's what a
01:46:18.060 perfect woman is is wrong and
01:46:20.540 I'm gonna have to give a little
01:46:21.500 pushback here I don't think I
01:46:23.040 think that the amount of men
01:46:24.400 which you could shake a tree and
01:46:25.960 would fall out that have some
01:46:28.260 kind of christian values and
01:46:29.600 are willing to provide for
01:46:30.600 their men is or their women is
01:46:32.360 pretty it's pretty overwhelming
01:46:33.800 honestly I think that the
01:46:35.640 amount I like if there was a
01:46:37.680 tree of men that you could
01:46:39.540 shake I think that you would
01:46:40.940 when you shook it most of the
01:46:42.280 men that popped out would be
01:46:43.400 those kinds of men who could
01:46:45.220 provide for you and have some
01:46:47.580 kind of christian values right
01:46:48.980 I mean everybody could have
01:46:50.740 their preference there's
01:46:51.840 nothing wrong if they want
01:46:52.980 that but not everybody's
01:46:54.960 going to be in that category
01:46:56.040 hang on hang on hang on we'll
01:46:57.740 get we'll get right back to
01:46:58.640 this I'd like to finish the
01:46:59.600 exchange though real quick
01:47:00.440 so assuming that that's true
01:47:03.220 right that they would be
01:47:04.200 willing to provide and they
01:47:06.620 had some sort of like moral
01:47:08.200 values I don't think we're
01:47:09.620 talking about the perfect man
01:47:10.900 here right we're not saying
01:47:11.900 that they have to be six foot
01:47:12.840 three we're not saying that
01:47:13.980 they have to make a million
01:47:14.720 dollars a year we're not
01:47:15.920 saying that they have to have
01:47:17.320 perfectly chiseled abs it's
01:47:19.340 actually a pretty low standard
01:47:21.060 that you're saying here that
01:47:22.200 they just provide some kind
01:47:23.520 of living for the woman and
01:47:25.500 have some sort of christian
01:47:26.640 values that's an awful lot of
01:47:28.920 men do you think it's an
01:47:30.640 awful lot of women who are
01:47:32.160 virgins and would be
01:47:33.400 submissive though I'd like to
01:47:35.620 really see the bystandard
01:47:37.040 letter answer letter answer
01:47:38.460 who no I I don't think there
01:47:41.140 are and I think that was one
01:47:42.200 of the things I wanted to sort
01:47:43.520 of was a talking point that I
01:47:45.040 was like happy to get into on
01:47:46.380 this show was that I think
01:47:47.620 society and and you know just
01:47:50.340 modern feminism is kind of
01:47:52.100 telling everyone you don't
01:47:53.060 need to be this you don't
01:47:53.760 need to be that but you know
01:47:55.260 men do want women like that
01:47:56.600 and nobody wants to admit it
01:47:57.740 or like women don't want to
01:47:58.780 admit it and say you know
01:48:00.020 well yeah men want women like
01:48:01.920 that so I do yeah but going
01:48:03.920 back to your earlier point you
01:48:05.400 were kind of trying to make
01:48:06.500 the argument that well this
01:48:08.220 is the the perfect rendition
01:48:10.200 right if the men have these
01:48:11.720 values they're the perfect man
01:48:13.200 if women know I can rephrase
01:48:14.440 and so I think what's
01:48:16.060 happening there was a was a
01:48:18.080 great conflation right is
01:48:19.560 that you were basically
01:48:20.860 trying to say well we're on
01:48:22.540 par with each other because
01:48:23.880 there's very few men who
01:48:24.980 would actually do this just
01:48:26.100 like there's very few women
01:48:27.040 who are available to have
01:48:28.160 these traits but that's just
01:48:29.800 clearly not true no I didn't
01:48:31.560 say that so I I don't I do
01:48:33.480 agree with you that there
01:48:34.480 would be more men who would
01:48:35.560 be happy to provide happy you
01:48:37.060 know and everything you've
01:48:37.860 said and I think women are
01:48:39.240 much fussier when it comes to
01:48:40.700 dating so that's why it may
01:48:41.920 seem like why did you say
01:48:42.880 it's a perfect man I would
01:48:44.660 I would after what you said
01:48:46.180 I would rephrase it to say
01:48:47.240 that would be ideal and then
01:48:48.940 ideal woman so but I do
01:48:51.900 agree that there are very
01:48:53.580 likely more men who would
01:48:55.880 have those traits than
01:48:57.080 like overwhelmingly more men
01:48:58.840 I feel like because you
01:48:59.740 kind of described the
01:49:00.560 perfect woman and we know
01:49:01.540 most women aren't virgins so
01:49:03.700 it's like she's looking at
01:49:04.680 it like okay you're
01:49:06.040 describing a perfect woman so
01:49:07.320 maybe you're trying to say
01:49:08.540 that it's the perfect well I
01:49:09.560 don't think
01:49:10.080 I want to add something
01:49:11.080 here's the thing perfect
01:49:12.960 perfect meaning without flaw
01:49:14.720 yeah right but just because
01:49:16.860 hang on just because
01:49:17.660 something is rare doesn't
01:49:18.880 mean it's perfect exactly so
01:49:20.460 I don't think that just
01:49:21.360 because a woman is
01:49:22.060 submissive and a virgin she's
01:49:23.360 a perfect woman yeah I still
01:49:25.520 she could still be an
01:49:26.400 annoying bitch right she
01:49:27.840 could still uh she could
01:49:28.860 still cause all kinds of
01:49:29.940 problems for people she can
01:49:31.540 she could be like she could
01:49:32.640 be terrible right in all
01:49:34.160 sorts of ways I wouldn't say
01:49:36.100 that that makes her perfect I
01:49:37.380 wouldn't say that just
01:49:38.020 because it's rare that makes
01:49:39.880 it perfect so uh no I
01:49:42.000 think that I would rephrase
01:49:42.840 it to say ideal yeah well I
01:49:45.120 don't even think it's ideal I
01:49:46.720 think it's just what there
01:49:48.160 would be a normal
01:49:48.940 expectation expectation of
01:49:51.020 okay if you want to be
01:49:52.480 provided for I want you to
01:49:54.300 not have taken 50 dicks
01:49:55.720 right like that's just doesn't
01:49:57.480 that seem totally reasonable
01:49:58.740 doesn't that seem totally
01:50:00.160 reasonable yeah it does
01:50:01.540 right it seems totally
01:50:02.320 reasonable
01:50:02.740 Andrew I want to add
01:50:04.660 something to this too I
01:50:06.280 want to say that to the
01:50:07.200 ladies the the problem
01:50:09.420 with the women today
01:50:10.420 especially in your
01:50:11.220 generation right that it's
01:50:13.700 so normal all these things
01:50:15.820 are so normalized to even
01:50:17.280 even not only fans even just
01:50:19.000 you go to a club the women
01:50:20.300 dress like prostitutes
01:50:21.560 hooking up after 20 minutes
01:50:23.560 for for a drink right a lot
01:50:25.820 of single moms like they have
01:50:27.440 a lot of men providers coming
01:50:29.020 and going like oh this guy
01:50:30.340 paid this this guy pay
01:50:31.420 electricity this guy gave me
01:50:32.920 this money this guy give me
01:50:34.480 this money it's put the
01:50:36.520 virginity aside okay to find
01:50:38.440 a virgin woman put the only
01:50:40.080 fans aside just women that
01:50:41.820 consider the norm are even
01:50:44.620 and I met a lot and even in
01:50:46.040 this show women that study
01:50:47.480 like psychology or whatever
01:50:49.460 right when you look at the
01:50:51.080 personality and how they live
01:50:52.460 their life it's for me it's
01:50:54.360 like terrible like it's like
01:50:56.180 they have no guidance
01:50:57.040 whatsoever nobody guide them
01:50:58.640 how to speak what to do a lot
01:51:01.360 of the singles mom here put
01:51:03.160 their kids last and they
01:51:04.840 first it's more important to
01:51:06.080 them to get a guy that buy
01:51:07.020 them a Chanel bag or put them
01:51:08.800 up in a in a place that they
01:51:11.280 you know celebrated or
01:51:12.500 something that they want
01:51:13.340 that actually to take care of
01:51:14.960 the kids and I'm telling you
01:51:15.980 from experience because for
01:51:17.080 so many years I wanted to date
01:51:19.120 I wanted to do things but for
01:51:20.860 almost 20 years I had to put
01:51:22.840 my life aside take three jobs
01:51:25.300 and literally do it to my son
01:51:27.180 everybody tell me how come
01:51:28.060 your son is such a good boy
01:51:29.380 it's not a miracle he could
01:51:31.260 easily could you know be a
01:51:33.020 thug but I had to put my
01:51:34.800 life aside in my best years
01:51:37.380 when I was still sexual and
01:51:39.200 feeling great and wanted to
01:51:40.460 date and wanted to go out and
01:51:41.840 have fun I had to put my life
01:51:43.620 aside and a lot of people
01:51:44.840 women especially don't want to
01:51:47.140 sacrifice their life they want
01:51:48.860 to have fun and then they wake
01:51:49.920 up in their 30s or their 40s
01:51:51.480 and then oh my god I don't have
01:51:52.820 kids or they do have kids but
01:51:54.580 the kids see multiple men
01:51:56.580 coming into the mother's life
01:51:58.080 or women like you they had no
01:51:59.980 guidance and they did what
01:52:01.020 they did and when you wake up
01:52:02.260 it's a little bit too late you
01:52:04.420 know and regarding to what
01:52:05.400 Andrew said it's so many good
01:52:07.780 men out there but not in these
01:52:10.100 places that the women hanging
01:52:11.760 out if you go to LA and you go
01:52:13.660 to the clubs and you go to all
01:52:14.960 the places when the men come and
01:52:16.540 they're looking for this
01:52:17.380 vulnerable young women or a
01:52:19.360 single mom they dress you know
01:52:21.740 open and everything this it's
01:52:23.480 specific men all right the
01:52:25.320 majority is good men but if
01:52:26.940 you're not hanging out where
01:52:28.020 the good men are you always
01:52:30.240 gonna meet this this users and
01:52:32.180 abusers mentally and physically
01:52:33.760 the most important thing like I
01:52:35.540 can go out to so many places
01:52:37.560 but I know I'm not gonna find
01:52:39.140 there a man if I want to meet a
01:52:40.700 man it's completely different
01:52:42.060 equation for me right yeah I get
01:52:44.880 what you're saying with the like if
01:52:46.400 you don't want a guy who clubs
01:52:47.800 don't like meet a guy at the club
01:52:49.400 but just to bring the
01:52:50.500 conversation back to the whole
01:52:51.840 virgin thing I think something
01:52:53.540 that we aren't really taught to
01:52:55.200 think about when we're figuring
01:52:57.200 out like what we want is we
01:52:59.340 should think about values and
01:53:01.000 goals right so this is why being a
01:53:03.760 virgin doesn't equate to a man
01:53:05.100 being a provider it's because if
01:53:06.620 your goal is to have a loving
01:53:09.660 family to settle down to have a
01:53:11.380 wife who can really have a family
01:53:13.900 and take care of things and like be
01:53:15.700 a strong rock for your family a good
01:53:17.360 mother but you're saying she has to
01:53:21.820 be a virgin and you know that she
01:53:23.780 would be a good mom but you're not
01:53:25.520 with her just because it's a virgin
01:53:27.240 and that means that your value isn't
01:53:30.420 helping your goal right so like if
01:53:33.600 you're looking to have a family then
01:53:35.840 you want a providing man because that
01:53:38.100 will help you with your goal of having
01:53:39.760 a family you're confusing me because
01:53:42.080 you actually know I understand I
01:53:43.720 understand your argument so you're
01:53:46.020 saying if you have the goal and your
01:53:47.840 top priority is to have like a good
01:53:49.360 mom for the family yeah she can
01:53:51.100 clearly be a good mother even if
01:53:52.480 she's not a virgin right I don't
01:53:54.780 disagree that that's true right
01:53:57.160 there's many many women who end up
01:53:58.720 being good mothers or good wives who
01:54:00.140 aren't virgins but that really
01:54:01.720 sidesteps the point and while
01:54:04.380 cleverly done unfortunately I'm just
01:54:06.720 not going to quite let you evade what
01:54:08.160 the point was which is the ideal here
01:54:10.960 was talking about what men and women
01:54:12.840 are valuing in each other for what it
01:54:15.420 is that they want and it seems that
01:54:17.520 women at least by the show of hands at
01:54:19.380 this table when they were asked if
01:54:21.500 if they would prefer a masculine man
01:54:23.840 who provided they all raised their
01:54:25.280 hands right am I wrong am I am I crazy
01:54:27.800 or did they do that that wasn't what
01:54:29.220 the question was the question was should
01:54:31.160 a man be a provider okay so then I'm
01:54:34.860 sorry if all of you raise your hand
01:54:38.020 that a man hang on hang on if all of
01:54:40.480 you raise your hand that a man should
01:54:41.960 provide are you saying that men should
01:54:43.960 provide but you would just prefer a man
01:54:45.620 who didn't provide well should implies
01:54:48.800 like a moral obligation they mean it
01:54:51.500 implies hot yeah so they are so by so
01:54:54.200 I'm guessing I'm assuming they ought to
01:54:55.820 provide you but the question was so so
01:55:00.680 non-specific for me I am looking for a
01:55:03.860 family so when I'm looking for like can
01:55:07.520 this guy provide for the family then sure
01:55:09.740 but I'm not okay now I didn't get any of
01:55:13.100 this wrong yeah yeah men also provide and
01:55:15.480 you want a man who provides yes but okay
01:55:18.400 got it so I'm just saying so I'm saying
01:55:20.480 I'm saying your false equivalency here of
01:55:22.760 the value structure makes absolutely no
01:55:25.000 sense it's a sidestep so you don't
01:55:26.820 understand is the case that that is your
01:55:28.760 goal if men also value I will provide
01:55:32.780 yeah I want a woman who has a very low
01:55:34.880 body count hasn't been in sex work right
01:55:37.960 doesn't have a lot of baggage that seems
01:55:40.620 like it's a reasonably fair trade-off right
01:55:42.860 yeah I'm just asking if you had like the
01:55:47.040 perfect and I know there's no perfection
01:55:49.440 in humanity whatever but for the
01:55:51.060 hypothetical if you had the perfect woman
01:55:52.640 you knew guaranteed that she would be a
01:55:56.340 good mother forever but she wasn't a
01:56:00.100 virgin would you marry her yeah I think
01:56:04.700 that many men would say yes but the thing
01:56:07.480 is is that even if many men would say yes
01:56:10.040 in fact even if most of them said yes
01:56:12.020 even if 99.9% of them said yes it would
01:56:15.860 actually have nothing at all to do with
01:56:17.340 well okay let me get to the let me get to
01:56:19.200 the actual point hang on hang on okay hang
01:56:21.120 on hang on just let you go through the
01:56:23.440 whole thing it would have nothing at all
01:56:26.760 to do with this question and the question is
01:56:29.440 if men have these expectations for what they
01:56:34.700 would want or desire in women yeah and one
01:56:37.860 of the women's desires is that they
01:56:39.380 provide and men's desire is that women
01:56:42.620 have a very low body count and are
01:56:44.240 promiscuous and sleeping around then is
01:56:47.120 the expectation equal you saying well maybe
01:56:50.200 not but those fuckers will still settle for
01:56:52.560 a blown-out chick doesn't mean anything you
01:56:55.520 see what I'm saying it doesn't mean
01:56:57.080 nothing yeah oh that's not the point I'm
01:56:58.760 making I couldn't help you understand
01:57:00.620 though so well so what I'm trying to say
01:57:03.980 is let's say you answered no to that
01:57:06.380 question then you'd need to ask yourself
01:57:10.460 is this value supporting my goal right
01:57:13.960 and if you're saying no then maybe that
01:57:17.220 value is not supporting your goal yeah the
01:57:19.040 problem is is that you're equivocating
01:57:21.260 because you're trying to pretend that you
01:57:23.580 can't have multiple values which have the
01:57:25.480 same equality to your goal so you could
01:57:28.400 you could have a value which is I want a
01:57:31.760 woman with a low body count which is
01:57:33.400 equally as important to me as her being a
01:57:35.700 good mother right if they're so you can
01:57:38.120 have these values you stating that because
01:57:40.940 you're willing to settle or something like
01:57:43.240 this that that doesn't mean that that the
01:57:45.180 priority and value shifts it may not mean
01:57:48.040 that at all it may just mean oh I can't
01:57:49.880 find anybody else so I have to settle but
01:57:52.380 I still would have a preference to the
01:57:53.840 opposition I think that I think you could
01:57:57.260 definitely have your own values I was just
01:57:59.100 saying like can I say that yeah can I say
01:58:01.700 tell us well hang on hang on let us finish
01:58:03.320 the exchange hang on let us just finish
01:58:04.940 the exchange we're almost done so what
01:58:06.980 what I'm saying is is as we're looking at
01:58:09.700 this you you would agree with me that men
01:58:11.940 can and women both can have values which
01:58:14.240 are equal to each other right what do you
01:58:16.600 mean by values that are equal to each
01:58:18.640 other so like I think that not murdering
01:58:22.720 and not essaying are equal in weight to me
01:58:25.160 right both of those values are equal in a
01:58:26.960 weight so I have no preference for one
01:58:29.000 over the other because they're both
01:58:30.280 really fucking bad right they're both
01:58:33.200 really bad so I have no I have no like
01:58:36.020 preference for one over the because
01:58:37.760 they're both really bad so I value them
01:58:39.380 is he being equally bad okay but let's
01:58:41.880 say you had something which equally good
01:58:43.880 now right like oh I don't know virtue in a
01:58:47.480 woman and child rearing in a woman or
01:58:49.460 something some whatever combination you
01:58:51.120 want are equally good right you could
01:58:53.420 value both of those things right yeah
01:58:55.580 yeah so so this is why I think you're
01:58:58.240 equivocating a little bit when you say
01:58:59.840 well when you have a goal right you have
01:59:02.680 a goal that you're moving towards like
01:59:03.840 well that's nice but I think I think that
01:59:06.720 people have values which can be equal to
01:59:09.260 other values I think I think I remember
01:59:11.460 why I'm bringing this up so the reason
01:59:14.280 why I brought this up was this whole
01:59:16.140 started because we were I feel like you
01:59:18.660 were making the comparison that a woman
01:59:21.480 wanting a man who provides is the same
01:59:24.340 as a woman wanting a or sorry a man
01:59:26.800 wanting a woman who's a virgin and I was
01:59:28.860 saying that a man providing helps with
01:59:31.320 the goal of a family and a woman being a
01:59:33.860 virgin is not helping with the goal of
01:59:35.580 the family yeah no okay yeah tell me why
01:59:38.800 I was trying to say hang on tell me why it
01:59:40.960 isn't helping with the goal of the family
01:59:42.460 if that's what a man's preference for
01:59:44.920 their women is oh you wouldn't you can
01:59:47.160 so hang on so hang on so if men if men
01:59:49.880 overwhelmingly wanted women with really
01:59:52.280 low body counts for virgins yeah right
01:59:54.540 how would it not help with the goal of
01:59:57.260 having a family for the women to stay as
02:00:00.840 virgins or having a low body count if that
02:00:03.900 led to having a man um it's more about the
02:00:07.360 her ability as a mother not the according well I
02:00:12.680 assume that one of those things in order to
02:00:14.660 be a mother is that she has to have a man
02:00:16.460 who has sex with her and they have a baby
02:00:18.340 right yeah I don't see the correlation
02:00:21.120 yeah so if that's the case then the man has
02:00:23.660 to select for her based on x quality in
02:00:26.500 this case the quality he values is a low
02:00:28.880 body count right yeah okay so I don't know
02:00:32.220 how you get to the stage of her being so I
02:00:34.540 don't I don't know how you get to the
02:00:35.680 stage of her being a mother with a family
02:00:37.380 if the man isn't selecting for her well
02:00:40.320 let's say that like she he does select
02:00:42.420 her it has really no impact once you get
02:00:44.940 past the selection stage okay well first
02:00:48.140 of all I would dispute that that's true
02:00:49.860 but second of all we're not to the
02:00:51.720 selection stage yet because what you said
02:00:53.600 was it has no value to being a mother I
02:00:56.640 would just give you the easy refutation
02:00:58.480 of if a thing leads to you getting better
02:01:02.160 quality men and the man getting better
02:01:04.360 quality women then yes it does affect the
02:01:06.560 quality of being a good mother absolutely
02:01:08.540 this is just for the hypothetical situation
02:01:11.060 what I mean this is just for a hypothetical
02:01:14.540 situation we can't account for all I'm
02:01:17.540 engaging with the hypothetical situation
02:01:19.300 can I present a question oh yeah sorry I don't
02:01:23.000 want to I don't want to because in in China
02:01:25.440 actually it's so common they have um hymen
02:01:29.880 reconstruction surgery because the top one
02:01:33.900 percent you know of wealthy guys whatever
02:01:36.900 guys with background status you know
02:01:39.180 family like a famous family they don't
02:01:42.260 want virgins so I mean sorry they only
02:01:45.120 want virgins so if someone were to go you
02:01:48.240 know if a woman wasn't a virgin and then
02:01:50.080 she got the surgery and then lied which
02:01:52.560 this is happening every day actually true
02:01:54.760 it's happening every day yes ask anyone
02:01:58.840 living in China like most of my friends
02:02:02.240 hold on getting a surgery does not make you
02:02:06.440 a virgin it's cheating you think a one
02:02:09.200 percent man is stupid enough to think
02:02:12.160 because this bitch gets stitched up that
02:02:14.800 she's a virgin thank you so she's lying to
02:02:17.400 the her husband that makes for that's going
02:02:19.860 to make for a wonderful relationship that's
02:02:22.100 exactly the big god damn let me I'm saying
02:02:24.940 this is byproduct of this common I do think
02:02:28.940 it is a byproduct like why are these women
02:02:30.600 doing this it's because everyone's saying
02:02:34.180 okay men want virgins yeah actually well
02:02:35.800 that's what I said women are a master in
02:02:37.560 cheating yeah I wasn't saying I wasn't
02:02:39.800 saying lies okay yeah you're saying that in
02:02:42.720 order for them to select for this man that
02:02:44.680 they want yeah they have to maintain some
02:02:47.060 type of chastity and that's so important
02:02:48.940 that they'll actually have it reconstructed if
02:02:50.860 necessary yes okay well then if that's the
02:02:53.960 case yeah but this actually makes my
02:02:57.020 point this would actually make my point
02:02:59.320 which is that okay well then any woman in
02:03:01.380 China then who valued having a family and
02:03:04.000 wanted men to be attracted to her would
02:03:07.200 keep her chastity intact right but sometimes
02:03:11.600 you know you get I'm not talking about the
02:03:13.400 outliers I'm just saying that if if I'm
02:03:15.900 not saying it's even a prerequisite to
02:03:17.380 having a family I'm just saying that if it
02:03:19.820 is true that that's what men are selecting
02:03:21.880 for and you want to have a family then
02:03:24.900 doesn't it follow that doing those things
02:03:27.700 is going to greatly increase your
02:03:29.120 likelihood of having a family exactly yes
02:03:31.000 but a lot of these girls they are she's
02:03:32.880 talking about this courting for like the
02:03:35.020 point zero five but you're proving his
02:03:37.180 point what he say you just prove it I
02:03:39.680 think look it's only because okay
02:03:42.380 honestly it's only because these women who
02:03:44.520 have been dumped by someone who has a lot
02:03:46.380 of money can even go save up for these
02:03:48.200 surgeries I'm not saying this ice is
02:03:51.120 isolated in a bubble it's because it's so
02:03:52.860 traditional can I in China the generals
02:03:54.900 are just in China it's also in the
02:03:57.040 Middle East in Jordan in Lebanon in
02:03:59.280 whatever you want any country it
02:04:01.240 happens but you've proven his point and
02:04:03.580 my point that it's similar to his also
02:04:06.240 that that's for my point what I said
02:04:08.760 earlier that women are master of
02:04:10.700 manipulation unfortunately we are
02:04:13.680 they know how to lie and and to cheat
02:04:16.580 and to manipulate men into a lot of women
02:04:18.740 trap men with babies you think yeah why do
02:04:20.700 you think that is yeah because because
02:04:22.840 women are a lot more insecure than men
02:04:25.240 mean men really yes women need a lot of
02:04:27.900 reassurance they need to I don't think
02:04:29.340 so I'll prove it to you wait let me tell
02:04:31.260 you if if you come to a guy and say hey
02:04:34.080 you're so gorgeous and everything's okay
02:04:35.700 thank you they not make a big deal out of
02:04:37.420 it you can go to an insecure not you can go
02:04:40.060 to an insecure woman and say you're so
02:04:42.400 gorgeous I want to be with you and a lot
02:04:44.560 of the women they never heard it before
02:04:46.340 not me that would give in maybe not you
02:04:48.060 but a lot of women a lot of weak women
02:04:49.640 are a lot of weak women are okay and what
02:04:52.760 you're talking about is this small
02:04:54.060 proportion and what we all what we talked
02:04:56.600 about here it's prove his point you're not
02:04:58.560 going to go and cheat a man and lie to him
02:05:00.580 that you're a virgin just so you want to
02:05:02.880 get married but doesn't this kind of go
02:05:04.620 back to the plastic surgery topic where we
02:05:07.700 know men like certain features let's say
02:05:10.000 big boobs big yes I don't know that's what
02:05:12.060 I'm saying with listen is that lying because
02:05:14.400 whether whether it's lying or it's not
02:05:19.660 lying just kind of sticking with the
02:05:22.700 point if the idea is I want family so
02:05:26.440 you're you're a woman you say okay I want
02:05:28.240 a family that's and I assume that you're
02:05:31.460 going to want your mate to provide for
02:05:34.060 your family so you can stay at home your
02:05:35.360 kids not every woman of course but I would
02:05:38.660 say that that's probably optimal for most
02:05:40.560 women they probably want to stay at home
02:05:41.660 their kids at least for a while right so
02:05:43.800 they're going to have to have a man who
02:05:44.760 provides would anybody disagree with that
02:05:46.360 no yeah no no okay so yes I actually do
02:05:50.500 oh you would yes okay you would yes I do
02:05:53.300 because the reason why so I actually do
02:05:57.100 want I would say I would want kids more
02:05:59.760 than my fiance however we do have a common
02:06:02.860 I guess value or goal we have an ideal
02:06:06.520 where we get to a certain point financially
02:06:09.960 before I get hang on hang on I understand
02:06:13.580 but exempting your personal situation for
02:06:15.660 just a second right just to kind of bring
02:06:17.980 it back to the top we'll get to your
02:06:19.720 personal situation too if it is assumed
02:06:23.740 that you think that most women want to
02:06:25.720 stay at home with their kids have a man
02:06:26.860 who had who is a provider then if most men
02:06:29.700 are attracted to x thing or they value x thing
02:06:32.860 whatever it is in this case we're just
02:06:34.440 saying low body count of virginity then
02:06:36.880 wouldn't it then necessarily follow that
02:06:40.140 if women kept x feature intact or had that
02:06:44.440 x trait that more men would select that
02:06:46.900 woman who had the ability to take care of
02:06:50.100 that woman right for the sake of like
02:06:53.600 doesn't that doesn't that follow yeah so
02:06:55.640 for the sake of procreating and you know
02:06:58.680 increasing the population yes I do that
02:07:01.680 would be the case oh yeah I want to tell you
02:07:04.300 something remember what you said earlier
02:07:05.660 oh if my mom won't make enough money I can
02:07:07.660 make enough money that the problem is that
02:07:10.220 thinking that you don't understand that
02:07:11.840 it's the most important thing that a man
02:07:13.760 have this mentality of the provider okay I'm
02:07:16.940 sorry because I've only attracted and dated
02:07:19.120 millionaires and billionaires honestly so I'm
02:07:22.280 okay so sorry maybe I'm a little detached
02:07:24.520 maybe I'm a little detached and I apologize for
02:07:27.180 that but when we were talking about should a man
02:07:30.820 provide I'm thinking societally yes because
02:07:33.800 women value this and if we want to grow the
02:07:35.600 population you know if we don't want to go
02:07:37.080 extinct as humans then yes a lot of the men
02:07:39.640 don't want to provide today because the
02:07:41.400 option of women they have out there it's not
02:07:44.560 a woman that they want to provide them because
02:07:46.120 see even if it was not true it was not so many
02:07:50.240 new shows like in YouTube he's catching his
02:07:53.520 girlfriend cheating or the gold digger thing
02:07:55.980 because majority of women today literally see
02:07:59.120 men like an option to go to the next level
02:08:01.740 they would date someone that they don't really
02:08:03.320 like oh I know but they know that he's a
02:08:05.120 provider when he gives them the bag the car
02:08:07.980 whatever and then they go to the next level
02:08:09.740 when they find a guy that they're more
02:08:11.140 attracted to that's what I'm saying it's no
02:08:13.600 option there for men today that's why the
02:08:16.260 men most men turn and don't even be in a
02:08:18.580 relationship because they say they don't
02:08:20.780 trust because for for for let's say 20
02:08:24.320 women who are bad one woman is good and
02:08:26.780 she's gonna be judged because men afraid to
02:08:29.160 get into it because they know majority of
02:08:30.780 women today lying more than men by the way
02:08:32.680 I just I just got this I was writing down
02:08:34.920 on my notes but kami did you say that you
02:08:37.260 only date millionaires and billionaires
02:08:39.960 basically I only okay I just want to
02:08:43.360 clarify on that because I've been you know
02:08:47.340 dating whatever I've been on dating apps
02:08:49.680 I've had people set me up whatever they're
02:08:51.680 pretty much all like Harvard Law School you
02:08:53.800 know Ivy League like lawyers you know tech
02:08:57.560 leads including like my fiance and and
02:09:01.200 actually he is the I would just disclaim
02:09:04.200 that he is actually the lowest earning and
02:09:07.000 lowest net worth guy that I have dated I
02:09:10.740 money is not the thing I'm going for and I
02:09:14.900 would also like to say that I've actually
02:09:16.540 talked to like even if not met but seriously
02:09:19.840 talked to and considered a total of I
02:09:23.200 approximately 10,000 guys 10,000 men before
02:09:27.240 finding one person 10,000
02:09:30.240 know how old are you oh 26 I've talked to
02:09:36.440 play whatever you want you know I mean you
02:09:43.540 don't know me as a person but I'm just
02:09:45.700 personally yeah exactly it's not personal I'm
02:09:47.940 just saying like you know seriously talk to
02:09:49.960 you hey what are your values you know like
02:09:51.640 like where I was looking for basically a
02:09:53.640 partner like a life partner to be a marriage
02:09:55.280 millionaires who you were talking to
02:09:57.360 billionaires of course you're not you don't
02:09:58.840 value of course a lot of them annoyed me the
02:10:01.720 millionaires and billionaire thing had nothing
02:10:03.720 to do with it they were just swell fellas but
02:10:06.000 that aside they're not many billionaires did any
02:10:09.340 of those millionaires maybe fly you around the
02:10:11.540 world a little bit or fly you out to really
02:10:13.340 cool places so actually no I I know it may be
02:10:16.640 hard to believe but we only went on you know
02:10:19.660 serious planned vacations there was none of
02:10:22.560 the crazy you know hey fly here to see me in a
02:10:25.820 club or like you know whatever I'll get you
02:10:28.240 backstage like it was actually no what was
02:10:30.700 the shortest amount of time at 26 years old
02:10:33.640 that you dated one of these millionaires and
02:10:35.300 went out for one of these planned vacations
02:10:36.980 and then you stopped seeing him shortly after
02:10:39.380 that what was the shortest time from beginning
02:10:41.260 to end I met him we went on a planned
02:10:43.680 vacation and now we're not seeing each other
02:10:46.060 anymore what was the shortest amount of time
02:10:47.660 so a lot of these guys that I talked to
02:10:49.860 seriously that were billionaires like in
02:10:52.360 Atherton Mellow Park I actually didn't I did
02:10:55.140 not want to go travel with them I felt like it
02:10:58.240 was too fast but the one that was the shortest
02:11:02.160 it was in 2021 during COVID and it was around
02:11:08.560 half a year like summer to like early summer and
02:11:13.140 I remember it was to like November so that's
02:11:16.500 around half a year I think
02:11:17.780 that was the and then and how fast did you go
02:11:22.220 on a vacation with him
02:11:23.220 um he invited me to a few but then we actually
02:11:27.680 only went for July 4th and we went to Laguna
02:11:30.940 Nigel Beach did you have sex with him
02:11:33.320 so at this point yes it was not on the vacation it
02:11:39.380 was actually before the vacation because I felt that he gave me a lot of
02:11:43.060 feeling of like reliability and honesty he would talk to me about a lot of stuff
02:11:47.620 that was troubling him that I think like you owe him something no no no like
02:11:52.340 purely I just felt safe chill you know just really feeling the vibes feeling like
02:11:57.460 attracted to this guy well we can get into that later but I do want to finish up
02:12:01.540 kind of what I was originally trying to get at here so I was going I was asking the table
02:12:07.300 if men should be doing xyz should women have some sort of corresponding should so should women
02:12:16.340 not be involved in sex work should women be virgins should women be submissive
02:12:21.840 and I don't know do you have a thought on this do you how about just should women be submissive
02:12:28.120 to their man uh if he's being like a hundred percent loyal then yes okay I think women should be
02:12:38.120 submissive for their men that's what I like in my relationship to be submissive okay what about you
02:12:44.500 the same goes for me so yes the woman should be submissive I think this is the most attractive thing
02:12:51.760 um okay and then let me see where you missed uh Kydra and Kami with a question Kybra
02:13:02.000 I think they no I was yapping already should women be submissive um I don't like making absolute blanket
02:13:11.440 statements
02:13:12.020 well remind me what's your position when it comes to men providing should men provide I honestly didn't like
02:13:20.860 that blanket statement either that's fair should men provide so to that question I think I've I'm
02:13:29.180 starting starting to now realize that I've only really come across men who already have this capacity
02:13:34.060 to provide however a lot of the reasons why I didn't want to marry the previous guys obviously it was
02:13:39.820 because emotionally and mentally I feel like they were not at the the threshold and should women be
02:13:45.980 submissive yeah so I think it's not that clear because um I would say that a couple is like a team
02:13:53.960 so if one person is strong in every single way financially emotionally mentally they're leading in
02:14:00.960 every single way like why like you know why would they choose you just being totally honest because I
02:14:06.880 know these people do exist out there but why would they choose you you know what are you offering
02:14:11.340 so I feel like actually it's kind of not as clear as dominant and submissive but like maybe you know
02:14:17.160 let's say financially family like my man is leading but the emotionally mentally and our like kind of
02:14:23.580 like mental health goals or you know lifestyle goals I actually lead and I do enjoy that because
02:14:30.540 it's pretty rewarding and we all know that you know some things let's say lifestyle I make better
02:14:35.860 decisions for the team and financially my man makes better financial decisions would be your thoughts
02:14:42.020 yeah I think it's um it's a great thing to bring to the table but it's not an absolute deal breaker for
02:14:48.700 me okay I mean just I guess my final thoughts on this and society and men have long since long since
02:14:57.440 deemed that expecting a woman to fit the housewife role Harold conversate donated $200 I'm so glad I
02:15:07.740 found a girl to marry that has a single digit body count and a head that could fit through a standard
02:15:12.840 door frame she also makes a great sandwich Harold thank you very much for the uh the tts minute uh I
02:15:20.620 appreciate it so uh society it's long since deemed that expecting a woman to fit the housewife role
02:15:26.860 in a relationship is unacceptable and sexist women can fit into that role but should they be expected
02:15:32.800 to it's seems like society is saying this expectation of women to fall into the submissive
02:15:38.700 housewife role is uh wrong and sexist but for some reason women still hold men to their sort of own
02:15:47.060 sexist uh expectations of what a man should be which is to be a provider and a protector which is a
02:15:53.820 traditional gender role so there's this expectation men must adhere even to feminist women what we have
02:16:00.800 the most degenerate women who come on the show who are hyper feminist liberal woke progressive
02:16:06.460 sex workers prostitutes oh but I still want the man to be traditional and be masculine and all these
02:16:14.840 things so it's just interesting to me double standard um here we're gonna get into some uh some other
02:16:21.480 stuff here so let's see we have Carly Davenport let's bring in Rachel to put these women straight
02:16:27.660 please hey Carly thank you very much for this super chat much appreciated I think a Rachel Rachel cameo
02:16:32.380 would be uh very cool tonight but uh I'll leave that to uh Rachel and Andrew Frank the Tank coming in
02:16:38.860 here in just a sec and then we're gonna pull up twitch here in just a sec too okay Frank the Tank
02:16:43.760 Andrew if you can bring out the wife to bring some perspective if not the the to the girls excuse me we
02:16:49.020 want a woman who will take care of our children and not fuck them up it's quite simple Frank the
02:16:53.340 Tank thank you very much for your message man really appreciate it thank you thank you and then uh
02:16:58.860 let's she says give her a few and she'll come on for a bit okay well I'll get her right I'll get her
02:17:03.000 in on uh kind of a good moment here uh can we get twitch pulled up guys go to twitch.tv slash whatever
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02:17:33.160 that out okay uh let's see here we have Gorlock the oh I'll read this from Jeff Brian your brand
02:17:43.200 of humor has me in stitches every time I love it so much don't ever change yo Jeff thank you very
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02:17:53.040 you Gorlock the destroyer ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of one to ten you can't pick
02:17:58.140 seven starting with you go ahead I'm a ten all right what about you um I'm gonna go with eight
02:18:03.980 okay uh 7.5 all right I'll do 7.5 10 I'll say six I'd say eight I think five I give myself a five
02:18:19.740 Andrew what about you I'm a ten okay so we have two tens at the table um interesting wait wait what's so
02:18:29.020 funny you don't think so no I was saying there should be more tens at the table right where's
02:18:34.440 this yeah no I don't know I said I was a ten and suddenly you guys thought that that was really
02:18:37.980 funny no no no I'm I'm happy that you're a ten I'm like it's almost like you don't believe me it's
02:18:42.820 almost like you don't believe that I'm a ten no I'm I laugh because he said there's only two tens at
02:18:47.440 the table I think there's more I look you are a ten you should be a ten you know I'm glad you think
02:18:52.300 you're a ten I'm not laughing at you I wasn't laughing at you I was saying I think you rated yourself
02:18:56.880 zero I feel like you guys don't I'm looking at the age is it because is it because I'm an old
02:19:01.080 man is that why is it because I'm old you're not old you're a really good looking for your age
02:19:05.500 you this is like when that lady was like oh is it because I'm fat like no one's saying this what
02:19:09.940 are you talking about I don't know I think you're a ten by the way no no you're loved it's all it's all
02:19:15.440 vibes all right so we have uh a couple tens here that's uh always always interesting
02:19:23.380 um I do find it interesting that people come on here and say ten if you've seen the podcast and
02:19:32.140 you know what's gonna happen to you if you call yourself a ten I don't know I don't have the
02:19:35.680 balls to say that it's ridiculous would you lay down your morals for fear of repercussion would you
02:19:43.480 would you lay down it's got nothing to do it's got nothing to do are you so weak-willed and lacking
02:19:48.540 of character that you would come on here it's a moral position that you're a ten what that's
02:19:54.900 that's a moral op that you're a ten I'm being dramatic I'm rallying the troops I'm being dramatic
02:19:59.960 okay listen it's got nothing to do with morals you know you will not compromise your morality we are
02:20:04.800 tens at this table sorry sorry when when a woman doesn't have an outside perspective and she thinks
02:20:11.260 she's a ten when nobody sees her as a ten it means she doesn't have a sincere conversation with
02:20:16.520 herself so even if you're a ten you not say that you're not gonna say you're eight and you're not
02:20:21.720 gonna say you're a ten what do you say you give the lowest number because you let people say it
02:20:26.500 about you you're not gonna say it about yourself usually women they say that they're a ten they
02:20:29.500 have a very low self-esteem and nobody give it to them so they have to give it to themselves
02:20:33.040 I feel like that's an opinion yeah you think eight is low that's an opinion it's not low it's high
02:20:39.000 I mean sorry you think eight is high I think that's an opinion most women are not high I think
02:20:44.380 nine and ten is like for sure high but it could be like it's like yeah I can back it up on this
02:20:50.300 10 10 it's Cindy Crawford when she was young 10 it's Stephanie Seymour can I say something wait let me
02:20:57.640 pick seven 10 it's Stephanie Seymour young 10 it's Linda Evangelista young 10 it's Christy
02:21:04.560 Terlington when she was young none of the girls here with all due respect she's gorgeous but she's
02:21:09.260 still compared to the girls here she's 10 but nobody here is my question what is an average woman look
02:21:15.920 like like an average woman so average would be five what does an average woman so so if every
02:21:23.980 woman who comes on this podcast is a is a seven eight nine or ten exactly right what the hell does
02:21:29.740 an average woman look like all of us I feel like beauty is in the eye of the beholder so whatever
02:21:34.820 you think is beautiful that's what you think you rate yourself whatever that standard is for what you
02:21:39.360 consider to be beautiful somebody's going to fall with threshold of what average is right I feel
02:21:44.120 like even if you're bad looking if you're confident and you look good to yourself you're going to come
02:21:48.640 across more beautiful now you're like oh I'm really pretty but let me tell everybody I'm not that cute
02:21:53.920 you're going to look like you have low self-esteem I'm going to concede all these points right like
02:21:57.740 that doesn't make you glow that makes you diminished I have one important point unattractive to men
02:22:03.400 if you go around saying and I've done it in the past you know been like oh I look great and then my
02:22:08.620 partner's just like oh okay well I guess I won't compliment you then and you know I don't think it's a very
02:22:13.460 attractive thing to men for women to to parade that I think if they are just you don't have to
02:22:18.640 say you're ugly but if you're just slightly more modest thank you well just be humble but don't
02:22:23.100 like not cherish yourself just but I want to I want to give you guys I want to give you guys an
02:22:28.600 example don't be afraid of yourself yeah like what I'm just gonna jump in for a second it'll get right
02:22:32.840 back to you I promise I have not been interrupting you uh Shalise uh is that is that your name
02:22:37.660 Shalise yeah okay okay I got it right so I'm sorry I write everybody's name down and sometimes
02:22:43.340 I mess them up uh I agree with you that beauty is subjective uh or in the eye of the beholder right
02:22:49.240 there's going to be some people who find some traits more beautiful than others and etc etc
02:22:52.960 but from your subjective standard that would still lead to some people are really beautiful and some
02:22:58.540 aren't right even from your standard or it's just everybody beautiful from your standard I feel
02:23:04.340 like everybody has beauty within them but no everybody's not beautiful like beautiful physically
02:23:08.740 then what does an average person wait an average woman from your standard look like Austin hold on
02:23:13.960 I have the perfect photo to to tackle this like beauteous objective bullshit but can we get the photo
02:23:20.780 pulled up yeah it's that you know the girl who's we've been meaning to pull it up can we get it quick
02:23:28.120 please I I one sec guys uh make it like um so okay beauty is subjective beauty is subjective now like
02:23:42.000 I'm just curious the entire male population of the world which woman the woman on the left or the woman
02:23:51.380 on the right which one do you think
02:23:55.280 pretty much all men in the world if they had to pick one just do you have a do you have a guess so
02:24:04.840 let's go around the table guess is it the woman on the left or the woman on the right this is right the
02:24:10.080 the blonde woman or the the brunette woman
02:24:13.980 the skinny white woman okay so woman on the left the the blonde
02:24:21.340 which one um I knew coming on here that there'd be some questions that I wouldn't be able to
02:24:28.920 participate in because I would be going against like my values and so what what values what values
02:24:37.420 my number one value is of acceptance and so for me to come on here and compare these yeah you can
02:24:43.420 accept one woman is less attractive than the other I don't know that is acceptance you can accept that
02:24:49.640 one woman is more attractive but I want to give an example no I'd rather finish my point go ahead
02:24:56.620 um I'm all about I'm all about kindness and I don't think I think that if that girl was watching
02:25:03.660 this and she heard me say that that wouldn't be very kind so I'm not going to participate in this
02:25:08.500 question she's she's dead she's dead what I don't know what you're saying she's dead
02:25:14.220 yeah but she's I'm trying to just bro it doesn't matter she's not going to hear the shit
02:25:23.840 but you've answered the question by saying you think her answer would be the answer would be
02:25:28.500 unkind you don't have to be politically correct wait you gotta stay for this question hold on I'm
02:25:33.840 going around the table just stay okay thank you for understanding you gotta answer this question come
02:25:39.680 on I will not compromise yeah I don't I don't so I think that that's fair if uh somebody asks you
02:25:46.520 to compromise your morals in some way I think it's totally fair to say that you won't can you tell
02:25:51.240 me what moral you'd be compromising here my moral of acceptance I want to be an artist who makes
02:25:57.000 people feel seen I want to make people feel accepted I don't want do you accept neo-nazis
02:26:01.940 well that's the thing with free speech right it's like there's reason I just asked you a question
02:26:07.440 do you accept neo-nazis I accept that they exist no do you accept their ideology
02:26:12.460 she probably doesn't know what not uh no you you don't I'm not PR trained for this it sure seems
02:26:22.920 like a paradox of values in this is called the paradox of acceptance no it's not that you accept
02:26:29.660 everybody or everything just like right now when I asked you if you accept this you say no of course
02:26:35.360 not and why would you right it's heinous right it's absolutely heinous it is very heinous so the
02:26:40.260 thing is is like it's it's a it's a complete paradox uh to say well wait I I want to accept
02:26:46.080 everybody but then when I ask well you will you accept this heinous group you say no it's like
02:26:49.960 you nobody's asking to compromise a single value here thanks thanks for first of all saying it's
02:26:54.760 okay to like not want to compromise on values I just don't want to promote like comparison and
02:26:59.700 like this idea of like one thing is better than another she's yes you do literally I literally
02:27:06.700 just demonstrated that you do because by you say okay well then let me just ask you right um the
02:27:13.540 stalinist regime of communists do you think that they are better than the western capitalist regime of
02:27:21.340 america I don't know you don't know okay so do you think that the nazi party is is better
02:27:29.220 than um the american capitalist regime I mean this is sort of out of the scope of the question
02:27:34.900 we're just I don't think so I think I'd like an answer because you're making a moral claim and so
02:27:39.320 I can make a hypothetical to test the moral claim and I'm testing it right now by saying okay if I
02:27:45.600 point to you uh you know this uh this geocidal I can't even say the word on YouTube right but if I
02:27:51.400 point out this group over here are you really going to say that you accept them as much as the other
02:27:55.300 group really no that's not what I'm gonna say but I know but as a as as a human living in an
02:28:01.760 imperfect world I am I accept there's imperfections because there's only one perfect thing and it's
02:28:07.340 God and so like I understand that to have free will sometimes bad things are part of this world
02:28:15.120 and I don't have control over them I guarantee you this girl jokes with her like girlfriends and if
02:28:20.620 they see like a dusty looking dude they're like talking mad fucking shit about him bro well not
02:28:27.220 only that it's worse though because you didn't really give me an answer yes I get it uh yes it's
02:28:32.900 it's sad the world is sad and there's lots of bad things in the world that's terrible but when asked
02:28:37.680 between two groups and one that you find to be hideous you say no I won't accept that group
02:28:43.080 right okay that's fair and you know what I wouldn't either right hideous heinous group right
02:28:48.040 whatever it's Andrew right yeah it's Andrew okay so two things okay you caught me right
02:28:54.400 there's some there's certain things it's like what you said with obedience right you don't obey if a
02:29:01.080 man is like if your husband's telling you to like go jump to your death right like you wouldn't ask
02:29:05.520 someone to sin like there's there's limits to everything right and so like what but I'm just
02:29:10.460 trying to determine the the actual value that's limited so let me just ask you this instead I'll ask
02:29:16.640 you a completely different question related to this one yes subjectively okay oh well actually
02:29:22.580 you know what let me just ask you this one first do you usually tell the truth honesty is another
02:29:28.000 one of my values I do my best and do you so you don't like to lie right correct because that would
02:29:33.740 go against your values correct correct subjectively in your own brain can do you make a value judgment
02:29:41.020 between the beauty of these two people go ahead and lie to me subjectively in my brain yes I do make a
02:29:46.960 it okay great then tell us which one from the subjectivity in your brain you give that value to
02:29:53.460 well see that's the thing is I I know that I'm not perfect and so that's why I say now it's a lie of
02:30:00.320 omission because you've told us that you do make a judgment of course I do you just won't tell us what
02:30:05.060 it is listen guys I'm not mother Teresa right I'm not perfect I'm just I I admit yes there's certain
02:30:12.120 I do like I do judge things certain certain things and I wish I didn't I wish I was I wish I was
02:30:18.440 perfect I wish I was asking that subjective standpoint of which one you do judge as being
02:30:22.600 better looking than the other one which one is it that's all I'm asking you I understand that's
02:30:26.740 what you're asking me I'm not saying I'm not making a judgment I'm saying that I will not share that
02:30:30.640 judgment wait I have a question okay um we will go around the table but um have you ever seen a
02:30:39.560 beautiful girl with a mid guy there's a lot of Adam Sandler movies you guys ever seen an Adam Sandler
02:30:52.980 movie I love I mean like sure there's movies or whatever I just mean in real life um is this
02:31:00.120 is this to is this to trick me oh just asking you a question have you ever seen a beautiful girl
02:31:06.940 with a mid guy I mean I know I said I don't like to make judgments so I don't really know how to
02:31:13.520 answer this it's unfortunate I did not ask this question prior to having shown the photo or asked
02:31:20.300 the rating the 10 question wait because hold on but hold on you're lying so she's lying right you're
02:31:25.700 lying through omission because you just said you want to answer the question is yes but you just
02:31:30.920 caught yourself and said but if I do answer the question as yes then that would uh previously
02:31:36.020 contradict my previous statement that I don't make these value judgments so that so you just said I
02:31:40.400 just don't I just won't answer even though I know the answer look I didn't say I don't make these
02:31:45.880 judgments I just don't try to make judgments and like share them you know I don't like that I make
02:31:53.440 these judgments how does that compromise the value of honesty though that's a lie of omission when
02:31:57.100 you're asked she's politically correct that's the problem guys I'm not do you know what do you know
02:32:03.480 what a lie of omission is it's where you know the answer to the thing no there's there's uh there's a
02:32:09.900 reason why you can like plead the fifth right so not answering is is a valid yeah to the government
02:32:15.440 this isn't a court of law there's no fifth amendment here you don't you can't smoke the fifth what are
02:32:21.900 you talking about Brian get your gavel and your robe Brian so that he could rule whether or not
02:32:27.920 you complete the fifth like what um so look all I was just trying to say there before was that
02:32:34.680 if I had asked this question to the whole panel if you've seen a beautiful woman with a mid guy
02:32:41.360 all of you would have giggled and said yes which would indicate to me that you are perfectly
02:32:46.940 prepared to make comparisons when it comes to men but you don't like this distinction you don't
02:32:53.780 like making this comparison in any case I'm rather uh I'm rather bored by your reluctance to answer
02:33:02.760 this question so I'm just going to move it on thank you I'm going to have the rest of the panel answer
02:33:06.540 the question though which one's more attractive can I see it again that went on for so long I
02:33:11.060 actually forgot okay okay left or right um my personal aesthetic fits more with the left so I'm
02:33:21.880 gonna say left left left
02:33:25.300 come on you're too far from the left left
02:33:37.980 I'm not answering damn you're far as fuck from the mic too can you kindly get close to the mic
02:33:47.380 I'm next to the mic but I don't care to answer this question because I just don't want to I
02:33:54.100 literally just don't want to so let's skip I just don't care to okay can I say say and also say
02:34:04.400 something else is that because I'm waiting for a long time answer the question first I think the
02:34:12.960 right girl is ugly and the left girl is gorgeous wait I mean anybody can see she's ugly come on why
02:34:20.460 you're so politically correct why like it's so weird what does this have to do with because she's
02:34:25.900 ugly as hell because she's so ugly and you guys don't hesitating not to say the truth one ugly and
02:34:32.440 one pretty that's it why this isn't political yeah politically correct not political I mean why not
02:34:38.680 to say the truth why to lie in the politically correct hold on I mean even I kind of disagree
02:34:43.400 with you Sheena we don't we don't even need to be rude to the one on the right by saying she's ugly
02:34:50.220 right but I don't even feel that that's even necessary we can simply the most tactful way of
02:34:56.940 going about saying this is the one on the left is more attractive that was the question sorry I'm
02:35:02.900 not politically well that's fine but can I can I please say something that I'm waiting I'm giving
02:35:09.500 you 30 seconds please make it quick okay if you look at commercials from the 70s and the 80s you see
02:35:16.400 the most gorgeous people on the on the commercials and the media today because of the name of being
02:35:22.700 politically correct and trying to to walk on eggshells by giving everybody equality with the look and
02:35:29.340 everybody can be a star everybody beautiful everybody this and everybody that we on TV we
02:35:33.840 see only ugly people in the commercials in the in the media and the gorgeous girl get pushed aside
02:35:38.540 because sorry but every overweight girl or ugly girl that they want to be politically correct to her
02:35:43.800 they put her on TV and to me it's repulsive not everybody a star not everybody beautiful not
02:35:49.460 everybody smart people are different from one another and I'm sorry just accept it stop being so
02:35:54.420 hypocrite and double standard and politically correct I don't like it sorry I truly think this
02:36:01.780 is coming from a place of privilege in a sense because I agreed with the first part actually like
02:36:06.600 yes not everyone is a star privileged however however if you've lived in western countries as a
02:36:14.280 person of color it is so important talking about my grandfather is black my whole left hand is injured
02:36:19.700 because I damaged it in a terror attack if I go with short sleeve people look at me like I'm a
02:36:23.920 cripple what what are you talking about but people been judging me before all my life for being short
02:36:29.540 but it's okay this is who I am I don't care when people even if people tell me you look like plastic
02:36:34.040 surgery which I hear it all the day in the in the media oh look at you fake boobs fake clips fake
02:36:38.880 this and that I don't care yeah people can say whatever they want and it's their opinion I don't get
02:36:43.520 offended I'm not saying you should care I'm just saying it's a big it is what it is for you to dismiss the
02:36:48.400 representation of people of color in commercials now because they do not have that did I say
02:36:52.920 color I that was that I said people you said you said in the 70s and the 80s the commercials had
02:36:58.340 beautiful people they only had white people I never said the word color you said I'm like is that not
02:37:02.400 true I come from a family the half of my family is really black my grandfather is Ethiopian I never
02:37:07.580 mentioned this way towards I never did I said like just generally better wait did I said the word black
02:37:13.420 be political be correct did I say the word I'm just saying I never said the word black this is
02:37:18.820 in your head this is what you're thinking you're thinking that color people I didn't talk about
02:37:23.240 before they show people that they're dark let me finish my sentence I don't think she was saying
02:37:29.560 that black I never said black like something about black women not being in commercials and stuff
02:37:33.620 more days it's like it's more beautiful like I meant over a way I think she's just saying in general
02:37:40.240 like now okay it's all different types of body shapes exactly people yeah that's what she means
02:37:45.480 but I do think your delivery is a little harsh sometimes okay so actually yeah just to kind of
02:37:51.040 going to do I actually was not thinking of specifically black people yes you did because
02:37:55.280 listen listen you don't know me at all I was thinking of Asian people because you know the do you know
02:38:02.140 the level of how much Hollywood has impacted racial discrimination against Asian people in
02:38:10.180 America now okay I'm gonna be honest oh my god now the people the Asian people who are going to
02:38:16.400 Hollywood yes maybe they're not you know like um the Victoria's Secret models I'm not talking about
02:38:20.740 Asian people or black people however I'm talking about wait wait wait you're taking opportunity the
02:38:25.940 whole show from the beginning you're taking everything personally I'm not talking personally
02:38:30.220 I'm not taking I'm mixed my grandmother is Russian my grandfather is Ethiopian my mom
02:38:33.840 African from Morocco and I'm born in Israel I'm Muslim and I'm Jewish so I'm the last one to be
02:38:39.000 racist I'm talking in general I don't care where the person come from they can be black white
02:38:43.160 short or or tall for me I care that you see the most ugly girls that don't take hair out of
02:38:48.200 their armpits or their legs or their eyebrows and they're in a commercial presenting as a
02:38:52.360 beautiful or a makeup model why not taking beautiful girl like her a beautiful girl like
02:38:56.560 her and put them in commercial I don't care the racism you you push it to the races which brand I
02:39:01.780 mean and maybe I don't know brand okay honestly I think that might be their brand value that's their
02:39:06.660 target market it's not value it's the liberalism the radical liberalism and radical feminism
02:39:12.980 brought that agenda to the media because they scared that people are gonna say oh my god
02:39:18.100 this fat girl get offended oh my god this guy get offended why to be scared that they get
02:39:23.760 offended and let to put all the most ugly people out there if I'm selling something to a target
02:39:28.940 audience I would want to make it appealing to that audience but it's not like that I'm telling you
02:39:35.500 if you don't believe me go to YouTube look at the commercial from the 70s 80s 60s it was people
02:39:41.440 from all colors okay maybe less black than today maybe less Asian maybe less Asian and black but
02:39:48.760 still that you had I want to be in a world when the star is a star that the smart is a smart not
02:39:54.920 everybody mish mish all the men and no it's not a fantasy that's reality because no not every man
02:39:59.780 every man that want to dress like a woman can go to the bathroom and pretend to be a woman and lie
02:40:05.200 to himself and force to society force us to call a man with a penis that he's a woman I refuse to
02:40:12.080 live in a world like that if it's a man go to a man bathroom if if the girl is overweight live in
02:40:17.080 this world though excuse me I live in this world way no I live in this world way you can move to a
02:40:22.540 traditional no I know there's no traditional country there's no traditional country all really
02:40:27.840 I heard Saudi Arabia was like pretty conservative and yeah the conservative but if you go to the nightlife
02:40:32.280 in the in two o'clock in the morning to private parties have you been in Saudi Arabia I actually
02:40:37.580 have not exactly I've been when you go to Saudi Arabia in two o'clock in the morning behind closed
02:40:42.320 doors they do things that here they don't even dream so spare me the bullshit from all over the
02:40:47.340 world people can be hypocrites and in the bedroom they do crazy donated two hundred dollars okay okay
02:40:55.160 okay okay okay okay okay okay I think it's been 30 seconds okay thank you uh Gerald good to see you in
02:41:04.120 the chat I appreciate it um I'm gonna move things on here uh we have a lot to get through so for the
02:41:11.860 sake of uh trying to not be here forever I want to try to get through everything um let's see
02:41:17.860 here um okay by the way hello Brian welcome Rachel good to have you thank you for the cameo thank you
02:41:24.800 thank you good to see you I was summoned so um do we have a seat are you able to raise the seat up a
02:41:31.860 little bit Andrew raised it as high as it goes I'll just try to sit tall there we go perfect pretend
02:41:37.220 I'm taller perfect thank you Rachel um you know what Rachel actually I want us to get into
02:41:42.040 one of the girls here um well as she gets up uh you want it okay yeah yeah that's fine that's fine
02:41:50.380 that's fine uh let me just see if there's anything while we're doing that okay well
02:41:55.000 let's see one sec I'll get into more of the notes then one moment here
02:42:01.060 uh you how do you say your name cabra cabra it's like the word cabra are you in a cult
02:42:07.680 no I'm catholic you are yeah oh because I saw you were like on your instagram we you had a photo
02:42:17.760 with a girl who's been on the show before and she's in a cult oh my god dude so I was like no
02:42:24.200 are you in the cult she literally she just made that up oh okay all right whatever uh a witch cult
02:42:31.320 or some shit she's just doing it to be funny I guess I don't know what the fuck is going on okay um
02:42:39.380 you said one time your boyfriend told you that he probably wouldn't love you if you were a warm
02:42:49.500 worm very honest relationship yeah yeah I've heard about this worm thing can you just explain it for
02:42:57.480 yours so there's this thing going around where you ask your boyfriend your significant other like
02:43:04.500 would you love me as a worm and so I was like oh would you love me as a worm and they're like I
02:43:10.940 don't know like you'd be a worm I would like you as a worm and there's this even deeper one where it's
02:43:16.720 like if a wizard came in one day and turned you into a cat and your partner knew that eventually you
02:43:24.100 would turn back into a human but it could be like 10 years you know you just don't know when
02:43:28.480 like would they stick around with you and he said I would take care of you like I'd have you as a pet
02:43:34.820 but I'd probably date other people and I was like what but honestly it ended up yeah it ended up being a
02:43:42.960 really good relationship like it's he's very honest um and there's awesome can you take it sorry go
02:43:49.540 oh yeah thank you um and it wasn't like it wasn't that like oh because he told me he wouldn't love
02:43:56.840 me as a worm like he's like this honest person and like never lies and better than all these people
02:44:01.420 like you know we still we lie to protect ourselves like he still lied a little bit but it set realistic
02:44:07.920 expectations like I never I felt like I could really trust him okay I I don't know if the worm
02:44:15.900 thing is um I'll maybe maybe we can come back to it time permitting uh Austin can you there's there
02:44:23.980 we're gonna get into some of the tweets I didn't get to show you this before the show but there's a ton
02:44:27.400 on the tweets we have one from Sherry here who um and it has to do with Rachel actually
02:44:37.280 wait Rachel?
02:44:40.380 Risha from Kami?
02:44:45.180 yes no I mean
02:44:46.880 Brian did you mean a tweet from Kami?
02:44:51.220 what what you meant me like Kami? yeah Twitter yeah that one okay yes Kami um I got interesting
02:44:59.540 there was a tweet about I got my names mixed up
02:45:02.400 yeah there's a lot so you might have to shift through them
02:45:08.200 really? I think are you sure you're thinking about me? yeah because maybe why? make sure there's
02:45:17.440 just nothing offensive on the page like no porn or anything maybe uh yeah
02:45:23.280 yeah
02:45:24.480 good
02:45:28.180 oh my god this is uh I just see the same ugly woman Rach for Patriarchy commenting three plus times on this
02:45:38.080 post for attention maybe uh are you able to wait did you scroll up and see what it was yeah scroll up
02:45:43.860 I didn't know this was here like Andrew's wife Rachel oh my goodness I mean I actually take
02:45:51.860 nothing back I'm oh it is transparent honest woman but I had no idea what a small world oh yeah we
02:45:58.660 don't have to show that I didn't understand the context that was way more entertaining than I thought
02:46:03.640 was it and one of Andrew's posts I actually don't remember the can they scroll up to the OP uh no
02:46:09.120 we're not gonna scroll up oh if it's TOS is it the one that Andrew just tweeted that has like 31
02:46:14.660 million impressions on it it's that one it's that one it's from Andrew can anyone give context
02:46:19.140 what was it about it's probably better was it political like a very g-rated version of it
02:46:23.880 Andrew Andrew tweeted that it was pretty incredible that women who are uh at an aesthetic disadvantage
02:46:32.780 seem to disproportionately be terrified that men are going to SA them oh geez something to that effect
02:46:41.560 right and it was yeah Andrew's a master at these tweets where he'll say something that's just like
02:46:48.280 an is statement and then the women will reliably go so what you're saying is and then they'll like
02:46:55.020 extrapolate all sorts of meaning from it that he didn't intend so yeah and then what were my
02:47:02.700 tweets again I actually forgot oh I do vaguely remember well there's more but we're not gonna
02:47:08.220 pull those up quite yet I I forgot to go around for the rating yourself on the scale of one to ten
02:47:13.440 do you think you will be better looking in 10 years time hide this I love this question so what are we
02:47:21.320 using you said 10 years time like are we rating it physically like yeah it looks physical looks so
02:47:27.020 what about it physically what do you mean well like for example I could be comparing two things and
02:47:35.260 I'm like what do I find physically beautiful six fingers seven feet tall three arms you know what
02:47:41.900 about it physically because from what I understand I've heard this question wait I think he meant
02:47:47.500 like you watch yeah yeah yeah yeah by your standards guys guys stick with me what is this
02:47:52.380 fingers are you gonna grow a finger when you're 30 stick with me stick with me stick with me stick
02:47:56.620 with me all right so let's say you're asking me am I gonna be better looking at 20 or 30.
02:48:05.260 so let's say we're measuring this like what's our unit of measure it's the physical beauty what
02:48:08.940 about physical beauty okay so let's say overall attractiveness it's very simple let's not
02:48:14.700 over complicated just overall no no I'm really simplifying it I'm really simple go ahead simplify
02:48:19.500 it for us all right so I think from what I understand what the unit of measure is is youth
02:48:26.380 and so then the question breaks down to am I younger as a 20 year old woman or as a 30 year old woman and
02:48:32.700 going off of numbers yes I am younger at 20 than I am at 30. well that's not the question but it is
02:48:37.900 no it's not the question it's simply are you going to be hotter yeah hotter based on what active right
02:48:46.460 to based on what in general based on what measure that you rate someone so you rated yourself weren't
02:48:53.420 you a 10 were you one of the tens oh yeah I would never got to explain why I said 10 I thought we're
02:48:57.900 going to be able to explain it um okay why don't you do that and then we'll go back to this why are you
02:49:02.860 a 10 um there is a time in my life where I felt so invisible and so unloved and like like if I
02:49:13.100 didn't love myself that no one else would just as a kid growing up so like I made a commitment to
02:49:19.100 myself that like I would show up to myself no it's serious yeah so I don't know but anyways going off of
02:49:27.740 that wait what does that have to do with your assessment of your looks um because she said oh
02:49:34.300 you're the one of the people that said you're a 10 and I was just explaining why I thought I was a 10
02:49:38.300 right okay so do you want to just answer the question so we don't get bogged down forever I
02:49:43.180 mean you can move on but I said my answer no you didn't say your answer you were asking for
02:49:49.180 clarification and it was provided right so what's the unit of measurement it's are you going to be more
02:49:55.660 attractive than a 10 you're a 10 now are you still going to be a 10 in 10 years yes but it
02:50:03.180 does change the question a little bit so will you be more physically attractive in 10 years time
02:50:09.820 physically based on what on your physical appearance face body so you're going to look
02:50:15.660 different in 10 years and if you're a 10 now are you going to be a 15 or are you going to be like
02:50:21.660 a five like are you going to get more attractive or less attractive hold on I think it's you guys
02:50:25.900 are you're adding complication to it just let me get this through
02:50:31.980 I mean it's really like what are we valuing when it comes to physical attract oh for pete's sake just
02:50:38.700 answer the question if you have my child I'd be like do you want dinner do you want dinner right
02:50:43.020 now because if you do you better answer the damn question let's really peel back let's really peel back
02:50:47.580 what let's break down let's break this down what are we considering beautiful is it youth if the
02:50:54.220 answer is yes then it follows that yes I will be 20 like when I'm 20 I'll be younger than when I'm 30 so
02:51:01.420 yeah I have no idea why young men don't want to get married it's I'm I can't figure it out
02:51:09.260 I don't know why you don't understand because who would want to deal with this exactly oh no I meant like
02:51:15.580 you know what we're talking about just answer the question we're not all smoking weed and being
02:51:20.540 like yeah bro like what do you like when we say attractive exactly thank you I mean do you understand
02:51:28.220 like what are you like what a question is there's like a premise and then like what follows logically
02:51:33.180 like you can break it down it's like I've never I've never done a debate I have no idea what a question
02:51:39.580 private chat and clueless what if you really need me to break down beauty for you and looks we can
02:51:48.220 we'll do it right now okay
02:51:57.180 we're getting something pulled up okay make it big so I can read it please big no you gotta click on it
02:52:03.500 then zoom it out uh make it a little bigger a little bigger please okay so there's various
02:52:09.180 factors when it comes to your face facial harmony mid face ratio eye area skin features bones the rest
02:52:15.100 facial harmony is how well a person's facial features fit well together with the rest of the face
02:52:18.780 scroll down just keep going mid face ratio mid face ratio is a major component in determining
02:52:24.460 the objective rating ideally female face should have 36 percent of her mid face scroll down eyes
02:52:29.740 desired traits for the female eye area large almond shaped eyes arched shaped eyebrows
02:52:36.940 uh feline in this okay scroll down scroll down scroll down scroll down skin healthy smooth skin is
02:52:44.620 commonly a sign of youth uh next face facial shape face shape nose
02:52:52.540 lips next bones yeah yeah but is that it and then and then there's your body you know there's okay
02:53:03.020 cool skin so this is great so right for the example i'm comparing myself as 20 to myself as 30. so let's
02:53:11.580 just assume that i have all the same features right what's the difference the difference is age so if the value
02:53:17.900 is youth then yes i mean let's take for example this water bottle and this glass cup no it's not okay
02:53:25.260 no no no no here let me let me let me make this really simple let me make this really simple it's not
02:53:32.220 necessarily i mean age comes with things but it's not necessarily your age it's how you look
02:53:40.780 right yeah so if you were 50 but you somehow magically looked exactly the same yeah your the
02:53:51.660 assessment of your physical appearance would not matter if you were 20 or 50. now as it currently
02:53:58.540 stands there's no way for a woman at 20 to end up looking the exact same way at 50. but do you agree
02:54:04.860 typically when you're 20 you're going to look different than when you're 30 40 50 yes you'll
02:54:11.260 look different yeah what are some of those changes that might occur well you might get older and with
02:54:16.300 age comes wrinkles and so if the value is that you like no wrinkles aka like you like younger people
02:54:23.500 then yes then that means that your unit of measure is youth
02:54:27.100 if i say for example if i say for example water bottles or water containers that are metal are more
02:54:38.940 beautiful than containers that are glass or i don't know you know and we're comparing these it's like
02:54:44.540 which one's more beautiful well this one's metal so this one is more beautiful right like the unit of
02:54:50.540 measure is that you're making this unnecessarily complicated it's really simple calling on purpose
02:54:56.380 it's not huh okay she's stalling on purpose i'm just like her friend made up a story about a cult
02:55:02.460 okay let's so here let me ask you let me ask you a different question yeah do you think that the
02:55:07.740 average 35 year old woman is more attractive than the average 25 year old woman based on youth
02:55:15.980 like what is it but let me ask you a question you seem to be making the case that there are
02:55:21.100 differing measures and differing units of attractiveness yes one of which you think is
02:55:26.140 youth yeah what are the other ones well for me i don't measure myself purely based off my physical
02:55:34.060 looks my value comes from all sorts of things okay so cool you play the violin that has zero to do
02:55:41.660 with your outward physical appearance yeah and so since we're talking about physical appearance
02:55:46.380 that's why i haven't brought that up yeah that's what we're talking about so you could be the most
02:55:51.580 amazing person yeah and there could be you know if you tend to have a more positive disposition you
02:55:57.340 smile a lot totally this will shift your like your perceived physical appearance slightly yeah like if
02:56:03.900 you're smiling and have a brightness to you versus constant scowling and resting bitch face whatever it is
02:56:10.620 i'll grant this but a beautiful 10 out of 10 woman who's got a sourpuss on her face versus an objectively
02:56:20.860 ugly woman even if the ugly woman is smiling is not going to be appraised or assessed as more attractive
02:56:30.460 than the 10 out of 10 model woman we're not talking about two different people we're talking about me at 20 and
02:56:36.620 me at 30. that's right so how's that relevant because you because you literally brought it up
02:56:44.940 you're like well it's a i think i'm more attractive because of my insides and i said i told you where
02:56:53.180 my value comes from because the second question you posed was like do you think the average 35 year
02:56:57.900 old person is more attractive than the average yeah more physically attractive it's within the context of
02:57:03.580 the looks okay i'm sorry i just didn't have that clarification i wasn't it was within the context
02:57:09.260 of the looks guys don't see your personality i'm just i'm just being a little silly guys nobody see
02:57:14.620 your personality until they get to know you that's the whole point right but i'm not saying that i'm
02:57:19.580 just saying like what are we using to measure physical attractiveness okay so here let me ask you
02:57:24.220 it's actually a mess stop stop stop is it your position that you that oh my god that just
02:57:30.300 god damn you guys gotta let me fucking talk holy fuck
02:57:39.820 totally lost what i was going to say totally lost my train of thought
02:57:43.820 do you think that in your own viewpoint that women are more attractive when they're younger
02:57:51.980 at 20 versus 30 based on physical physical looks yes based on what about the physicalness
02:58:00.300 oh my god based on youth yeah they're younger
02:58:08.780 yeah yeah i'm not trying to hog the conversation yeah i mean scientists they need to agree on a unit
02:58:14.620 of measurement before they talk i don't see why the unit of measurement is beauty that's not
02:58:19.420 specific enough you can't say the unit of measurement is length you need to say inches millimeters you
02:58:25.260 know aesthetics are objective we know what's beautiful and we know what's not beautiful
02:58:31.180 yeah so what's the measurement you literally pulled up a chart and it was showing me
02:58:35.740 measurements i hope you're pretending to be dumb are you pretending are you calling
02:58:40.780 me do you think i'm being dumb you could just drop the act and stop pretending to be stupid
02:58:46.460 and just answer the question i feel like i'm explaining this in a really easy to understand
02:58:50.700 way actually i think you're being obstinate and ridiculous and if we look at a picture of you at
02:58:55.340 20 and a picture of you i think you're trolling is gonna look better you're going on and on and
02:59:00.060 we're not making any progress i think at one point it turned into trolling people get really bored
02:59:04.700 i'm sorry you guys feel that way we can move on i'm not trolling i mean just don't be upset when
02:59:10.540 the show goes super late because you've continuously just waste 10 minutes every time we we get to
02:59:17.580 you having to you can move on you're the host you could just like control the flow of the conversation
02:59:22.060 or you could just operate in good faith and just answer the question
02:59:30.220 zero accountability okay i'll ask it again do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years time
02:59:36.460 oh my god based on what you're actually retarded you're actually retarded okay no she's playing
02:59:44.460 innocent she's just being a brat i'm not being a brat you're being a brat i just feel like you can't
02:59:49.740 defend i have a different question i have four daughters and i know when girls are playing dumb
02:59:53.820 and being a brat okay i feel like you can't you can't defend your point so you're just resorting
02:59:58.300 to calling me i haven't had a chance to make a point that's what kids do they call each other
03:00:02.540 names when they don't get their way and they don't understand okay i'll ask you a different
03:00:05.740 question do you think do you think most men will find you more attractive now at 20 or excuse
03:00:14.860 me 22 or you when you'll be 42 if their value is youth then yes if their value is looks yeah looks
03:00:25.980 based on youth then yes okay so okay let me ask you this if okay you said the girl on the right was
03:00:35.260 less attractive than the girl on the left right for that i said the girl on the left is more attractive
03:00:40.940 well i didn't even say it but yes sure okay sure so do you think that the girl that you said is more
03:00:49.100 attractive at 42 is more or less attractive than the other one at 20. wait but that's different people
03:00:57.740 hold on i so i can even grant you it's not it's not a monolith here there are 32 year old women who
03:01:05.420 are going to be more attractive than 22 year old women yes that's what i'm saying it's based on what
03:01:10.220 what's the unit like is it youth yeah but that would be a comparison between two people the comparison
03:01:15.500 here is between you and you yeah
03:01:24.460 you don't even have any semblance of your position on this like okay do you think as people age they
03:01:31.020 tend to become less or more physically attractive um they tend to get wrinkled and which older by
03:01:37.820 society's standard by society's standard of valuing youth then yeah
03:01:46.700 okay all right uh okay let me make okay do you think you'll be better looking in 20 years time
03:01:52.540 me yeah you better looking i don't know 30 years time i don't know i'll look older for sure
03:02:01.820 i'd probably i i value youth so yeah i mean i i think if that is what i value then maybe i'll look
03:02:09.100 more younger at 20 like i don't know do you think a uh do you think you'll have an easier time
03:02:16.540 getting a getting a modeling contract now at 22 versus you at 102 yes because modeling agencies value
03:02:25.580 youth oh my god okay i'm just moving this on you're 26 will you be better looking in 10 years time
03:02:36.380 good question i think um looking at my mom and the genetics in my family i think yes but then
03:02:44.140 if you were to say after that i don't know because typically women in my family they look they age
03:02:52.220 better until like menopause like perimenopause like okay so you're 20 raisin so you're 26 yeah you'll
03:03:00.300 be better looking at 36 yeah i want to work more on my fitness goals so yes unbelievable huh well i have
03:03:06.940 a question because is it kami yes what like like communist that's pretty funny no like kami like god in
03:03:13.660 japanese okay sure anyways you called me ugly and so i'm 44 so i want to know do you think you're going
03:03:23.340 to be hot when you're 44 i wouldn't say hot no i never said hot i never even said i'm hot now
03:03:33.020 and i actually didn't you call yourself a 10 no i didn't i never said that what did you say you were
03:03:39.660 i said probably an eight because we cannot say seven well i didn't encourage me to be considered
03:03:45.340 hot for me personally i think nine and ten are hot eight is average because we cannot say seven
03:03:52.700 and then six is sorry not average average attractive because i don't think i'm average out of all the
03:03:58.940 women in the world but i think out of women that men want today or society likes i think i am average
03:04:07.100 amongst them wait really quick on this can we get this pulled up really quick yeah just for
03:04:11.100 clarification now i actually disagree with the faces that they show but we're this is going to
03:04:16.300 explain the rating scale you can disregard the actual faces here i need the right where it it
03:04:26.700 okay so not there there's no tens god tier basically no one meets the standard 9.5 that's the top
03:04:32.860 0.002 percent i disagree with some of these faces whatever doesn't matter a 9 or 9.5 extremely rare
03:04:41.020 this range will consist of the best looking women of all time with virtually every facial feature
03:04:46.380 being top tier these women have great bone structure strong projected jaw high set prominent
03:04:52.380 zygomatic processes excellent facial symmetry and harmony large almond eyes full lips fine eyebrows
03:04:58.380 skin will show intact collagen and be clear both signs of youthful youthfulness the face will be
03:05:04.780 almost perfectly harmonious with a majority of facial features being feminine and cohesive
03:05:09.980 supermodels and some actresses can be found in this category scroll down
03:05:15.340 eight uncommonly seen these women are attractive with and without makeup and have high facial aesthetics
03:05:20.300 face consists of attractive and feminine features rounder large eyes with the little upper eyelid
03:05:25.900 exposure high cheekbones feminine small chin and overall soft and harmonious traits face might may
03:05:31.340 not be perfect including one or two less attractive or more masculine features however this is negligible
03:05:37.100 overall models and actresses can be found in this category scroll down seven somewhat uncommon in the
03:05:42.780 most attractive women seen on a day-to-day basis these women stand out from the crowd and may be able to
03:05:47.580 model or be successful as an instagram model or influencer a majority of facial features will be feminine
03:05:53.580 and attractive but they may possess a few flaws bulbous nasal tip slight asymmetry long mid face the overall
03:06:00.300 face is attractive and has good harmony six these women will be good looking with mostly positive facial
03:06:06.140 features and some negative features hair and skin will be healthy face will be attractive to majority of
03:06:11.580 people but may be polarizing to some overall face will be harmonious and these women will be considered
03:06:17.180 better looking better looking than average 5.5 these women will be above average and somewhat good
03:06:23.900 looking with some positive facial features and some negative features hair and skin will be healthy
03:06:28.860 face will be somewhat attractive to some people but only be slightly above average to others overall face will
03:06:34.460 be fairly harmonious and these women will be considered better looking than average five
03:06:39.020 the majority of women fall in this range face is not head turning but makeup can be used to accentuate facial
03:06:44.460 features to the point of being considered slightly attractive to a decent amount of people facial flaws may be
03:06:50.460 noticeable recessed maxilla narrow palate asymmetry excess upper eyelid exposure excess buccal fat and imperfect skin
03:07:02.860 four a decent amount of women fall into this range and they will not be considered particularly
03:07:07.580 attractive but also are not ugly possible flaws are noticeable masculine features bushy eyebrows large nose
03:07:14.300 strong chin face lacks harmony and flaws detract from overall attractiveness these women may possess a niche
03:07:20.540 or unconventional face or style three these women are considered unattractive by majority of people
03:07:27.340 many facial flaws will be noticeable overall these women lack an appealing face but are not repulsive
03:07:33.580 two every facial feature will be below average and unattractive these women are considered ugly by almost all of
03:07:39.340 the population potential flaws extreme asymmetry and little facial harmony scroll one every facial feature
03:07:46.300 will be well below average and very unattractive these women are considered very ugly by all of the
03:07:50.700 population is there more scroll down no appeal whatsoever okay there my bad sorry i didn't mean to go there
03:08:00.300 does that help at all yeah it actually does so did you show this because i said
03:08:06.380 in 10 years i think i'll have better features than today no you were or you showed this because of
03:08:13.020 the rachel like i just want to clarify you're going back to the uh the conversation about rating on a
03:08:19.500 one to ten scale oh okay actually after reviewing that i will say that i'm seven but specifically they
03:08:27.020 said don't say seven they said you cannot choose seven so that's actually exactly what i said here why
03:08:32.300 why don't we just try to get through this yeah um so okay can i answer and also sorry rachel i called
03:08:37.660 you ugly because after reading that actually i would say your what they defined the category that i
03:08:45.660 personally feel like was close to the description they actually said is not considered ugly
03:08:52.300 so okay sorry about that but you're i mean i don't want to obviously i don't want to like
03:08:57.420 point out but if you really are wondering why i said that i can't explain and i think it would
03:09:04.380 actually pretty much that's cool so anyways back to this so anyways do you think you'll be better
03:09:08.700 looking in 10 years time 10 years yes okay so you're 26 you'll be better looking at 36 what about
03:09:13.500 20 years time 46 no okay i still stand by that no were you better looking at 18 or are you better
03:09:19.100 looking now at 26 now okay yeah that's why you're 26 are you going to be better looking in 10 years
03:09:25.100 time no and are you better looking now 26 than you were at 18 i would i would say yes okay you're 24
03:09:33.740 better looking in 10 years time yes at 34 okay better looking in 20 years time at 44 no okay you're 28
03:09:44.140 uh better looking in 10 years time at 38 yes better looking in 10 years or 20 years time at 48 no and then
03:09:51.980 were you better looking at 18 as compared to now 28 no so better looking now yes okay
03:09:58.780 i hope i look better in 10 years okay so you're 23 better looking at 33 yeah better looking at 43
03:10:03.900 probably not okay going to you you're 22 better looking in 10 years time at 32 yes
03:10:09.580 better looking at 42 no okay sheena uh you're 50 better looking in 10 years time
03:10:14.460 uh i think i'm not gonna look as good no okay and i think yeah okay that's fine um so
03:10:25.820 that's crazy um you know what for those of you you know what here chat this is what i want you guys
03:10:30.300 to do or the discord discord if you recall from sunday show we're gonna do a comparison here so you
03:10:36.620 guys can do the the ai age thing on did you say did anybody say here better looking in 20 years
03:10:45.100 no i don't think anyone said that okay
03:10:49.180 to who did you say it they did it to everybody on the panel no
03:10:52.780 shit i love it perfect and did they do the comparison i hope that's lovely that let's go
03:10:58.700 through oh my god i'm excited all right all right so you guys all think you're gonna be better looking
03:11:04.140 when you're older here we go all right wow oh my god why do you gotta start with me though
03:11:13.420 you look like santa oh my god that's 10 years and that's 20 years or 10 or 20
03:11:19.660 that's me in one year probably ah okay thank you guys appreciated that one
03:11:24.460 oh that was me yesterday that was me yesterday yeah um oh you're kind of pretty yikes 10 years
03:11:33.740 i don't look pretty actually you you want to see my grandma who's 88 that's what she looks like
03:11:38.460 but with my hair oh my gosh look like an old english moment i wonder how often i look
03:11:45.500 oh my gosh oh my gosh now they're bumping up yeah they're bumping up like they're
03:11:49.580 i changed my hair before they mentioned george washington yeah i was gonna say you look like a
03:11:55.180 president
03:11:57.820 wow wow you're being 12. that's pretty good when i'm gonna be 60 maybe yeah
03:12:04.060 oh you're beautiful i kind of like that
03:12:06.620 i want to take advice
03:12:07.660 uh-oh it's really 10 years
03:12:08.860 what what almost the same are you seeing this ai
03:12:14.460 oh my god let's go
03:12:17.660 they probably recognize it that i like both
03:12:19.660 wait austin can you pull the discord back up uh pull it back up really quick when does that
03:12:25.580 can you just scroll on the tab on the left there can you scroll it up yeah yeah all the way up
03:12:31.420 yeah thank thank you that's good uh damn that's crazy uh wait there's screenshots of the girl from
03:12:38.700 the video you were just talking about what i don't know what that is but i wanna the cult i want to
03:12:44.220 say something too is it that one
03:12:49.900 should i have andrew jump back in or uh no you should have i think you should have a bit of a back
03:12:54.700 and forth um okay what what do you have in mind anything uh i mean did you have anything you wanted to
03:13:04.300 well i noticed that when andrew said what he was looking for in his
03:13:07.500 in a wife was a good mom and someone who's going to obey that that got quite a reaction from
03:13:12.060 the panel so i don't know if any of the girls want to ask about that because they seemed like
03:13:16.140 they thought that was a bad naughty word the obey word i mean i'm not looking for a dictator like i
03:13:23.820 don't want someone who's going to tell me what to do and i gotta follow it like with my tail between
03:13:28.860 my legs you know but i think obey was too strong to say i would say someone who's just submissive
03:13:35.580 like i still want my opinion and my voice to be heard in the relationship but i would
03:13:39.900 do what my man tells me to do for the most part okay so so how is that okay we got to figure out
03:13:47.580 where the line is when you say submissive but you're like well i'll submit when i'm in the mood
03:13:55.100 like how is that submission well because it's kind of like well yeah you're right then because i'm not
03:14:01.180 fully submissive then i would say like if my man tells me like come here or do this or do that
03:14:05.500 i'll do that but if it's going against my own personal like beliefs and thoughts like i'm not
03:14:11.260 going to do it like i'm just well here's here's where this comes into play it's not like so i don't
03:14:16.700 know if people think that andrew's just telling me like uh you know stand up sit down put eat this
03:14:23.420 much don't eat that he's not doing that but it's like so if there comes a point where we disagree on
03:14:28.700 something like let's say we need to buy a new house uh andrew gets a job offer somewhere and he's
03:14:35.100 like okay i got a job offer but part of that is we got to move to mexico right um and i don't really
03:14:42.700 want to move to mexico what do you think as a married couple what do you think the right move is
03:14:48.860 there well if he's a financial provider for the family then i feel like the right move is for you to
03:14:53.740 go with him and figure it out but what but what if i don't want to yeah well then that's on you
03:14:58.780 that's your well what would you do what would you do if your husband's like listen i'm taking this job
03:15:04.140 we're moving to mexico and you're like but i want to be close to my mom and i like my friends here and
03:15:09.500 i don't want to go to mexico i want to stay here like no i'm like let's go like i'll call my mom i'll
03:15:14.780 talk to her on the phone that's okay like i did i did it already i got married what if it's
03:15:18.860 what if it's somewhere you really don't want to go okay what if it's like pakistan
03:15:26.220 pakistan's insane okay honestly um i think i would kind of like visit first to see if this
03:15:34.940 is the right fit for me as well and see we can do the long distance thing but you know i'm all about
03:15:42.060 like family too so like my husband is my family member now so and i like priorities within that
03:15:48.380 household not my mom and sisters and stuff like that so honestly if i have to move to pakistan i
03:15:55.180 will but i would just go back home a lot or vice versa i'll stay home and visit him a lot i don't know
03:16:01.260 okay what if your husband gives you a spending limit like what if he says look
03:16:04.940 babe we have financial goals and you can only spend this much per month on you know uh your personal
03:16:12.300 spending and you're like well i can't get my hair done my nails done off my makeup that i like to buy
03:16:17.340 i i you know i that's not enough i need like double that like what if you guys have an issue about
03:16:22.780 finances like that are you going to submit to what he says there or no no he's gonna have to let me work
03:16:30.460 oh so then why let me just ask then if that's if that's the way it works if that's the deal for the man
03:16:37.340 why would he want to marry you well you ain't got to i'm i'm right but what i'm what i'm saying is
03:16:45.420 like why would a man want to have children and and make a lifelong commitment to somebody who's like
03:16:51.740 well i'm gonna do what i want though well i don't think i just feel like choose your partner wisely
03:16:57.740 like we all come with our own flaws so it's like if you don't like that i like to get my hair done and
03:17:02.940 my nails done and i think it's a priority for me to look good which is what attracted you i just
03:17:07.420 feel like well then i i don't know i just literally forgot my whole point but so let's feel like married
03:17:15.020 you're married you have two kids with your husband and he gets in an accident at work and you know now
03:17:20.860 you do have to work and all he gets is like disability pay and your budget like your income
03:17:26.860 is half what it used to be so now you truly can't afford to get your hair done get your nails done
03:17:31.900 get the like brand name makeup you gotta just like you still have a roof over your head you
03:17:37.100 still have food you still have heat you know the basics are there but you don't get any of the
03:17:41.340 luxuries anymore are you gonna like stick it out with him or are you out at that point and i'm
03:17:45.260 honing down like honestly like i'm really self-sufficient so luckily for me if we're talking
03:17:50.700 about me personally i know how to do my own hair i know my own makeup i do forrest gump donated 200
03:17:56.620 dollars chair number one i'm not as thought as you drunk i am officer what
03:18:04.540 who's chair number one well i guess i'm just i'm asking like why is why is it two different answers
03:18:11.260 that you gave me like if you're willing to go without stuff if things go wrong why would you
03:18:16.940 not be willing to go without stuff if your husband says we have financial goals you know for now we got
03:18:22.300 to pare down the budget why are you instantly like well i'm gonna go to work what if he doesn't
03:18:26.220 want to put his kids in a daycare what if he's like i don't want my kids raised in a daycare i want
03:18:30.140 my my wife to raise my kids you're gonna prioritize hair no i just it's not that i would prioritize
03:18:37.260 hair i just kind of feel like if that's our goals for our family and i'm so capable to work yeah you
03:18:43.340 want me to stay home and take care of the children i don't know it's kind of like i would do it and i
03:18:47.900 wouldn't at the same time it's just like i want what i want if i can't have it at that moment because i
03:18:52.380 know there's a bigger goal in mind then i'll for sure sacrifice that but if i don't have to i'm not
03:18:58.220 going to like if you kind of get what i'm saying yeah i think it's like you might lose some battles
03:19:03.420 to win the war yeah but like you love this person you can kind of see the vision long term is that
03:19:08.700 what you're saying but if the man if you guys expect a provider why would a provider have to like
03:19:16.380 why would you have to agree to everything he decides if he says this is what the finances are
03:19:21.340 i'm the provider you've got everything you need and most of what you want but look i'm gonna say
03:19:26.620 no to some things what makes you feel like you have like this well i should still be able to just
03:19:32.620 have whatever i want like i'm asking how can you ask for both how can you say provide for me but also
03:19:38.380 i'm gonna make the decisions i'm gonna do what i want i'm gonna be willful and it's all about me and
03:19:43.500 what i want and if you say this is how i want things to be if i agree i'll go along but if i disagree
03:19:50.140 i'm just gonna do what i want anyway like ooh like you would never sign up for that like you
03:19:54.700 would never marry somebody or like sign up for a job where somebody was going to be like that to
03:20:00.380 you if you were the boss and you're interviewing an employee and they're like well i'll listen to
03:20:05.900 you when i agree but when i don't agree with you i'm just gonna do what i want you would not hire
03:20:10.140 that person as an employee no honestly i think that's one of the biggest issues i have in relationships
03:20:14.940 is that because that's how i am it's kind of like you tell me and i'm like okay i'm cool with that
03:20:19.740 and the minute i'm not cool with something i'm like no i'm not doing that so that's kind of like
03:20:23.180 one of the biggest issues i do have in a relationship which is you're kind of also you're not an employee
03:20:28.780 yeah well but if i think not everyone is like that that's like double standard
03:20:33.500 being a submissive wife then yes you are to be submissive is to be subordinate it means that you are
03:20:40.220 not in charge it means that there is somebody above you who has authority over you and this is
03:20:45.020 my little old lady wisdom for you girls i remember the specific moment when i was very young in my
03:20:50.540 early 20s and i realized this uh if you want a man who is about business and he can handle his
03:20:57.420 shit and he's a good leader and he's like competent he's independent he's like one of these top tier guys
03:21:04.220 that you want that's like confident and knows what he's doing that type of man is not going to put up
03:21:09.740 with strong independent woman he's not going to put up with you stepping on his dick all the time
03:21:14.140 and going well but i think we should be doing it this way and i really don't agree with you like
03:21:18.380 if you want a guy who's going to put up with that he's going to be a little bit of a softer beta
03:21:24.140 kind of guy he's going to let you walk all over him and you're probably not going to be attracted
03:21:28.460 and you're probably not going to respect him so you kind of have to pick one like if you want
03:21:33.260 i don't know about the respect no no it's true no forrest gump donated two hundred dollars
03:21:39.900 chair number three you are a 9.5 god bless the united kingdom and i hope we are not cousins
03:21:47.180 long live andrew and rachel i told you she's gorgeous well that's very kind i think i think
03:21:53.580 people respect different things so i actually did agree with you know most of that statement from rachel
03:21:59.900 where you it probably won't be a guy who's so demanding all the time and my two exes were
03:22:07.500 exactly like what you kind of described like the confident alpha male so many successful businesses
03:22:13.580 everyone wants to be him you know the guys are like you know trying to be his mentee and whatever
03:22:19.100 and then um you know i actually didn't really respect how he would kind of project that into our
03:22:25.660 relationship and be controlling me by the way i didn't say that um i am extreme i didn't say that
03:22:32.460 i want to be submissive in a relationship because of this these two experiences i realized that actually
03:22:38.220 i respect someone who cares about what i think but a confident man cares about what you think just
03:22:44.700 doesn't care about what i think i mean i've definitely suspected that but i feel like it might
03:22:48.940 be a persona so no it's i like i don't i mean because seriously i don't think you guys would be
03:22:54.780 together if he didn't actually care but i do i will say sometimes online it comes off that way
03:23:01.420 well that's because sometimes it is that way there are times where if i see if he knows something
03:23:06.300 is important and stuff has to get done and there's like a deadline and he doesn't have time for a
03:23:10.780 bunch of quabbling and like like so you're being unreasonable because that's the difference i don't
03:23:16.940 like i would never do that actually because i'm very reasonable i used to be a tech founder too
03:23:21.980 um i used to be the cpo and i just wouldn't do things that are not reasonable if there was a
03:23:25.820 deadline if there's something urgent i would do like basically just you know risk analysis or whatever
03:23:30.860 basically like i'm just doing swat analysis all the time when we're making decisions together we
03:23:34.460 would discuss and then we would pick something that is reasonable together and sometimes you realize
03:23:41.740 that over the course of a whole lifetime there will be times it for every couple i agree where
03:23:47.820 they hit a point with something where they just don't agree i agree and so so the question is what
03:23:52.940 do you do then i actually kind of answered this earlier so for financial and home um i will go with
03:23:59.260 my man's choice basically his opinion if we're really at like an impasse and then for mental
03:24:06.140 emotional health physical health lifestyle um it would be me actually so we're that's kind of how
03:24:13.820 what do you mean by lifestyle if you were married but what do you mean by lifestyle oh i just mean
03:24:18.620 lifestyle like um you know how fit are we what are we eating what are we putting into our bodies like
03:24:24.460 are we getting walks because these really are things that when two people are so busy just basically
03:24:29.500 workaholics someone has to think about it two hundred dollars i'd rather have one thousand lives
03:24:36.220 with rachel and what andrew and her have them be with you three hundred and fours girls versus a
03:24:42.060 real woman what's three hundred and four it's three or four they're calling us well the things you say
03:24:49.900 that you would like to be in charge in are quite feminine things so yeah cooking and making sure
03:24:55.660 your husband goes for walks and stuff well you said about what food you eat so yeah we order we
03:25:00.540 we order because i only cook as a hobby because i actually am i actually really like yeah um
03:25:07.180 wait cooking as a hobby yeah yeah we usually eat out but like occasionally i did like i did cook the
03:25:13.420 other day as a hobby and like i love cooking for my man's when i'm not tired or stressed or you
03:25:19.740 know worried about business you're not it's not i think supposed to is not an option i never told no
03:25:25.340 no no listen i never said at any point in the relationship of meeting this guy that i cook
03:25:32.140 all my exes know like i i'm not that i cook i clean but i still handle things like emotional
03:25:37.340 mental physical health taking into consideration both people's long-term well-being i want to tell
03:25:42.540 something from the place i come from a woman that don't know how to cook and not passionate about it
03:25:47.580 she's not considered a good catch because yeah i don't cook i don't clean cooking coming with passion
03:25:52.220 like i've been proposed to twice by quality my last multi-millionaire a lot of people's dream
03:25:58.140 guy you know he proposed i was the one who broke it off it's a dream guy only to girls who come from
03:26:02.300 nothing for girls who know life she's not dreaming on a bill billionaire because a billionaire gonna
03:26:07.580 have control over you control exactly that's why i actually respect someone who respects my
03:26:11.900 opinion when you have kids with a billionaire right if he doesn't like you you'll be you'll be
03:26:17.420 replaceable i agree no matter what i agree and this is a choice right i think that kind of does go
03:26:22.460 back to what rachel was saying let's say that rachel was talking about like the top one percent these
03:26:26.540 desirable men or whatever but like you are still replaceable but they don't really it's only it's
03:26:31.420 only listen it's only desirable to people who come from nothing people who know life and know how
03:26:37.020 the life of game and how life operates they're not looking for the the title like a millionaire i have
03:26:42.700 this card they have this job a lawyer that's true i don't think they're looking for a real steady
03:26:47.740 steady man that be grounded and protect them and love them that's the whole point i think that's
03:26:53.020 because millions you can make what i've been saying yes i've basically been saying that look
03:26:57.500 if we ever have an impasse that was the original question this is how i would deal with the conflict
03:27:02.380 resolution as a reasonable person a woman can lead her man to be super successful and rich and a woman
03:27:08.380 can lead her man to destruction okay not by everything you take personally i'm not talking
03:27:12.540 about you i'm talking in general yeah i'm saying some women literally can they take their man for
03:27:17.740 destruction and a woman if you're gonna have kids you need to know how to cook how to clean how to work
03:27:22.460 how to improvise how to provide also in a way because god forbid in your men fall down you the one
03:27:28.460 they have to handle and do everything you said no i'm not cooking just for hobby no i'm i know how to
03:27:32.220 order takeout but you need to be all these ingredients you know well i'm hearing you need to bring
03:27:37.820 enough things to the table right i have a question that maybe nobody's thought to ask yet to sheena
03:27:44.060 so sheena you seem to have a lot of wisdom to share you seem to be really jumping there you said you're
03:27:49.500 50 right yeah yeah so you're just only a little bit older than me you know i'm 44 um you said you're
03:27:56.540 still waiting for your king so why is it since you seem to have all this knowledge and you seem to
03:28:01.100 understand how relationship dynamics work you're willing to give advice you have a lot of wisdom
03:28:05.980 why is it that you haven't found your king yet do you think i tell you i know exactly why first of
03:28:10.460 all i live in america and sorry to say that but majority of men that i'm surrounded with in los
03:28:15.340 angeles are really sissy gay mentality um they're not masculine enough for me if i would if i would
03:28:24.060 meet a man that is a real all-american man maybe been in the army or strong and opinionated and a good
03:28:30.380 man i would marry him yesterday i just got out of a relationship of four years that we're almost
03:28:35.900 engaged so oh not the divorce unfortunately no no i was married for 10 years unfortunately i tell you
03:28:42.300 what i'm not jumping into relationship for me i'm not going to tolerate one night stands or just hookups
03:28:48.780 i need a guy to really commit to me and because of how i look and i take care of myself a lot of the
03:28:54.140 guys they get scared because they think another gold digger from los angeles so when they get to know
03:28:59.260 me of course they like me but until i meet that guy that would understand my value and that i would
03:29:05.020 be attracted to him emotionally physically it's really hard for me like it's it's so hard to and
03:29:09.820 i'm not on dating apps by the way i don't want to be on dating apps because i want it to happen
03:29:14.220 naturally i don't want to go with a guy that go with 20 girls and and start feeling stressed about
03:29:19.180 dinner because he already took last week five or six girls to dinner i want to have a real real
03:29:24.540 gentleman with values i'm praying and and you know want it to happen but i'm not approaching guys
03:29:30.700 if a guy won't approach me i'm not gonna approach him so you're too hot and you're too awesome i don't
03:29:36.140 think i'm too hot at all she said it's not what i'm saying please don't twist my words and don't
03:29:41.260 twist my words because that's not what i said i said because how i look i intimidate guys i didn't
03:29:46.460 say i look good i think something about my look make them look obviously you don't know what i'm
03:29:51.340 doing i i own a business of facial injections so i do it for 16 years i do botox fillers i do all
03:29:58.060 the russian techniques of faces right so because i work on myself and i like to make myself look
03:30:04.700 good obviously because of the majority of what you have in america that do injections you know
03:30:09.340 they're not going to think that one woman like me that do injections to herself or whatever she's
03:30:14.060 going to be a little bit different but i do love old values i i come from israel you understand
03:30:20.220 most of the women in israel look like me they love to take care of themselves even if they go
03:30:24.860 to the army they would never miss their botox appointment right that's that's just how i am
03:30:29.980 with my mentality okay so you can't find a man who's not a pussy so have you thought of like going to the
03:30:37.980 midwest to the south i actually moved to texas i just come back from texas four months ago because i
03:30:44.060 opened the business there the only problem my son is 21 now he's in la i don't have like close friends
03:30:50.780 in texas i was you know i find myself six months in texas all by myself trying to go out alone going
03:30:56.620 to dinner alone you know hard for me to mingle you know i don't have like friends that i grew up with
03:31:01.980 or that i hang out with so i end up coming to la and saying my god it's miserable like la it's difficult
03:31:07.580 for me socially but when i go to texas it's also miserable to me socially because i don't know
03:31:12.780 anybody i try to go out with some clients you know i try it but i'm going actually to the general of
03:31:19.020 the marines invited me to a private event so i'm waiting and exciting and participating i've just
03:31:25.100 noticed a pattern i've just noticed a pattern that you really really like to talk and i do too i'm a
03:31:30.060 talker as well but you really like to talk and you really like to talk about yourself and hear yourself
03:31:35.980 talk and i'm just wondering if you've considered that maybe those qualities might be off-putting to
03:31:41.900 the type of men that you want to attract a good point i'll tell you when i actually meet a man i
03:31:46.300 don't talk at all they think what's wrong with you are you shy i only talk when i'm debating or
03:31:51.180 when i'm doing something like that on the media god forbid she talks on a podcast where she was invited
03:31:56.380 to talk yeah but no no i talk in a lot of podcasts but you know i don't know you don't know my history i
03:32:01.580 was an actress for 20 years i did a lot of tv and comedy i was doing stand-up comedy actually
03:32:07.420 and i'm used to being on the spotlight i came to america i never tried to be an actress never
03:32:12.620 tried to be on the media it happens when i you know start to go and post videos of things of how
03:32:18.060 i saw society but to your question wait let me just finish your question i wish i wish i would meet a
03:32:26.460 man i miss so many opportunities because when i see an attractive guy i just like close and
03:32:33.100 embarrassed to talk to him because i don't know what to say what am i gonna say hey i like you
03:32:37.900 like if he's not gonna approach me what am i gonna say it's hard wait this is a little off
03:32:42.780 tangent but i think when we went around and said like why our previous relationships ended like
03:32:47.580 i don't know if um we got around to you i can say do you want to know yeah i'm like
03:32:53.260 generally thank you for having me on nice to meet you all so my previous relationship
03:33:01.900 that you're not gonna believe for something really stupid oh really i'm moroccan black
03:33:07.100 russian descent my ex-boyfriend chinesian descent which is similar to moroccan but his chinesian
03:33:12.860 mother didn't like me because i'm a rock it's competitive and he was like a mama i got it so it
03:33:19.020 was a big you know all the time oh gosh and i'm not gonna argue with his mother because this is the
03:33:23.260 first woman in his life she loved him and i kind of step back if this is more important to him and
03:33:28.780 he's not fighting for me i'm not gonna fight for a man if that doesn't fight for me yeah generally i
03:33:32.780 avoid these kind of guys because my ex-sex was a bit similar it was really it took me literally just
03:33:38.620 three months ago to get out of it i was so it was such a heartbreak for me because i thought we're
03:33:42.700 gonna be together forever i'm so sorry i've been there i'm truly sorry yeah but uh yeah like for me
03:33:52.220 it's so hard to meet men's like i know all the girls know i'm going on a date like why nobody invite me
03:33:56.380 on a date maybe because my age i don't know i don't know nobody invite me on dates ever yeah like maybe
03:34:04.700 maybe well very rare yeah maybe it's intimidating i don't know but then if you're shy with guys then
03:34:13.340 maybe it's not intimidating maybe it's too shy i don't know no but i honestly don't know i don't
03:34:17.420 think a woman should approach a man it's more i think for the long run when you approach him it's
03:34:23.820 always catch you back you know but how long will you wait if you're waiting on your king and you don't
03:34:30.300 want to approach guys like i'm genuinely curious is there a timeline like i tell you what i was planning to
03:34:34.380 go to israel four times because of the war i didn't go because i lost like 30 friends in october
03:34:40.460 7 and i'm like if i'm going now and they shooting people on the streets i'm not gonna go i already
03:34:45.020 got injured twice so i'm literally waiting for the war to yeah but hang on we're gonna we're gonna move
03:34:49.980 past the israel talk here though sorry yeah because no what i'm trying to say is that i'm waiting for the
03:34:55.500 war to end so i can go there and maybe find a husband i think the there is i know a lot
03:35:04.300 of people will sort of scoff at it when you say if you're attractive you get approached
03:35:08.220 less by men but i do think that is true um there is like a small amount of truth in that just in
03:35:14.060 general but i i think that you know a lot of us have ideals about a man should always approach me
03:35:21.020 and things like that i think sometimes you know like what we were saying earlier i want a woman who's
03:35:26.300 a virgin but if she was an amazing mother this that that and the other that i would accept a woman who
03:35:29.900 wasn't a virgin i think us as women have to also have that flexibility of oh it would be ideal but
03:35:37.980 i haven't had a date in like you know six weeks maybe i do need to approach a few men and just
03:35:42.300 like see how that goes and like we have like some flexibility with like your standards or like be
03:35:47.660 willing to change some things talking about me yeah well everyone in general but i know but i also
03:35:52.380 agree that you will have fewer men approach you when you're more attractive as well i tell you
03:35:57.900 what i think i was married for 10 years it was really you know to get out of a marriage and to
03:36:02.940 become single again especially when you're a single mom it's so difficult because you know when i tried
03:36:08.940 to date men when i was a single mom like young single mom with a little kid i realized the majority of
03:36:14.300 men what they want is just sex because if you're a single mom maybe you need help maybe you need help
03:36:18.940 with money and when i realized that i kind of shut down and focused on raising my baby and i said if it's
03:36:25.500 not a serious relationship and who's going to be in a serious relationship unless it's a man that
03:36:30.700 already have kids himself and i also immigrated here i've been alone as an immigrant had to learn
03:36:35.740 you know what's going on in america how to live here you know it was really a long time for me but
03:36:42.220 you know it is what it is in the hands of god whatever needs to happen happen i'm not you know
03:36:48.940 stressing it's so wholesome when it's just the girl he's talking the woman
03:36:55.420 it's so peaceful when it's just the woman talking you mean boring i wonder why i'm not boring
03:37:00.780 trust me i mean not good for the brand but is it let me let me actually see
03:37:06.700 well you see the clips you see the people can you say uh say the word woman woman now say the word
03:37:14.060 women women wait okay oh women oh he's correcting you i didn't even know i've actually i've seen a
03:37:22.540 clip where andrew was correcting i kept saying woman woman woman woman but it doesn't come naturally to
03:37:29.180 me sorry i didn't grow up here so i'm actually trialing yeah robert tanner robert tanner thank you for the
03:37:34.460 gifted 20 memberships really appreciate it we have pelagic here what wait you have a valley girl accent
03:37:40.620 yeah isn't that crazy but you've been inundated yes exactly but wait andrew i want to answer him
03:37:46.620 wait i want to answer him we're going to be here for i could do i could do whatever accent i like
03:37:51.260 darling that's so i could do whatever accent i like so i'm very good with accents that's very good
03:37:56.300 but sometimes i only have one i don't know the correct words i'm literally i sit down within a
03:38:02.700 minute i'm already interrupted okay pelagic thank you for the super chat man intimidated by your looks
03:38:08.620 you're a confrontational loud mouth that's why do you have a response maybe and i accept it all
03:38:14.780 right pelagic thank you for the super chat man all right um we have uh n-t-p-e-b chair one
03:38:25.580 quit trying to be smart you're either trolling or are slurred please do us all a favor and do
03:38:29.340 not reproduce i wish you're okay i'm not going to read that after last show tonight i'm sorry i'm sorry
03:38:35.100 brian oh the solipsism eh okay um we have living here two hours behind but jesus
03:38:44.460 fucking christ brian is on his fat gun of a period true not simping but i love the british accent lost
03:38:49.340 my virginity to a brit but of course it was a fucking scouser scouser what's the only bad british
03:38:56.220 accent it's somebody from liverpool or birkenhead area all right yo the dude thank you for the gift
03:39:03.580 of 20 memberships really appreciate it thank you very much man and then we have alec lewis coming
03:39:09.660 in here in just a moment thank you for the hundred dollar donation listen ladies i'm a veteran who
03:39:14.940 fought for this country and spilled blood for this country i can tell you my brothers who died in combat
03:39:19.820 didn't die for women like you they did for women like rachel alec lewis thank you man appreciate the
03:39:27.100 uh the message there thank you man all right i want to get through all the reacts and uh hold on
03:39:34.060 what is that okay one sec guys um let's start with the first tweet austin we're just going to go through
03:39:39.820 the tweets we'll get through the rest of the show notes and we'll try to try to go as quick as
03:39:43.820 possible here we're very behind them all right oh no not this next
03:39:57.260 all right we're going to get to no we already did this next
03:40:02.300 we're going to get to ruby's tweets ruby you said still fascinates me how men will
03:40:06.620 slut shame women but still watch porn does that still yeah so i think is that tweet
03:40:13.660 two years old and um i think it's i definitely i wouldn't tweet that now because i just like
03:40:21.660 wouldn't say that on my twitter but i think it is interesting that men will actively go out and
03:40:29.980 speak about i hate women who do porn but will still consume porn i do think that is so
03:40:35.260 if i think if i enjoy watching professional football do i have to play professional football
03:40:47.180 no no but if you enjoy watching football but you're constantly tweeting oh i hate footballers i
03:40:52.300 hate footballers i do think that's interesting i actually don't because look i i personally i don't
03:40:59.340 recommend porn consumption but i actually don't think there's anything wrong with a man who watches
03:41:06.060 porn and maybe this isn't what you're trying to get at but a man who watches porn but also would not
03:41:12.380 date a woman who's either promiscuous or involved in porn is that the point you're trying to make no
03:41:17.980 she's not talking about the point no so the point the point i made when i tweeted that was just as
03:41:24.540 simple as people being nasty to women who do porn but still enjoying watching porn so i think there's
03:41:30.700 a a very big difference between not agreeing with what someone does or being like i wouldn't date a
03:41:35.500 sex worker and then being outright publicly i'm not sure if this really tracks so much so like for
03:41:41.420 example you familiar with the musical artist r kelly a bit yeah so so this man has been accused of
03:41:48.940 uh oh i believe he's not just been accused but convicted of various i yeah sex sex crimes right um
03:41:59.660 i mean what's that what's this fucking song uh i believe i can fly that's a fucking banger you could
03:42:05.820 still like the song and be like damn this guy's a terrible person yeah but he's not you wouldn't be
03:42:12.780 saying he's a terrible person because he wrote that song you'd be saying he's a terrible person because of
03:42:17.500 something else he did so you could be like wow i love this porn star but it's a shame she killed her
03:42:21.900 husband that's really terrible you know that that's what you're saying but what i'm saying is it's i
03:42:28.940 think it's interesting how men will say i love this porn star but she's fucking horrible slag i think it's
03:42:33.580 it's a bit well um well help me out here the person is doing heroin but they don't like heroin
03:42:40.220 dealers isn't that the same exact concept here yeah like and porn is an addiction so i think that is the
03:42:45.980 same yeah so if the idea here you think that people who are on heroin shouldn't criticize
03:42:51.420 heroin dealers well no absolutely like absolutely not that's not what i'm saying so when i tweeted
03:42:57.420 that two years ago it was when i was a lot more naive about the industry as well so i was
03:43:04.380 are you oh my god dude okay sorry what's going on
03:43:07.660 i don't know what's going on fucking back here you guys have been the most fucking dis dis disruptive
03:43:18.620 fucking panel we've had in a really fucking long time holy shit go ahead um yeah so like i said
03:43:26.300 earlier when i came on the show um i my views have changed on like the sex work industry and stuff like
03:43:32.700 that and i do believe that you know had my circumstances been different i wouldn't have
03:43:37.100 gotten into that industry and that's why you know i stopped making content and stuff like that but
03:43:42.060 when i tweeted that the point i was making was that i think it is
03:43:47.260 you know distasteful for men to actively shame women who do porn when they consume it
03:43:52.140 now my stance on it would be that porn is an addiction i don't think young men should be
03:43:56.460 watching it i don't think yeah but i don't understand how that relates what if they're
03:44:01.900 watching it but they're still criticizing the women who are in it this would be the exact same
03:44:07.740 concept as the heroin addict the heroin addict doesn't even make sense why because in this con
03:44:15.820 in the corn situation the person is the product and in the heroin situation the dealer is not the
03:44:25.020 product the heroin is the product so it's not the same no i i think it is a similar analogy i think
03:44:30.380 it does make sense whoa let's uh let's back up and let's just see if we can make sure if this tracks
03:44:36.780 or it doesn't track um i mean i could be wrong but just yeah i just i just want to make sure if this
03:44:43.180 tracks or doesn't track uh so your your idea here is that you must be the thing so this is just a basic
03:44:49.740 argument from hypocrisy that she's making she's saying uh that if you're for instance fat you
03:44:55.660 can't criticize fat people right uh things like this but it has the reason that an argument from
03:45:01.420 hypocrisy is fallacious is because it doesn't make any sense if you're a fat person you tell a fat person
03:45:06.700 that they would be a lot healthier if they weren't fat you would be correct right so what's and and
03:45:14.140 you would be correct so uh just tangling with it by saying well it's hypocritical doesn't mean
03:45:19.820 anything right well i didn't i didn't say it was uh hypocritical in the tweet i said it was
03:45:23.900 interesting and then i said my stance on it now is that i do believe that what makes it interesting
03:45:29.260 well but back then when i was active on only fans and stuff i was more pro-sex work so i had more of
03:45:36.860 the oh well if you're enjoying watching it and you're paying for it and stuff why are you coming on
03:45:40.620 here and you know yeah because you would be a hypocrite right yeah but i think it would be also
03:45:47.260 when i say it's interesting i'm interested to hear what men have to say about it not just to say men
03:45:53.020 shouldn't think that i would just be more interested to hear why men think that way but as i've gotten
03:45:58.380 older i do believe that it's an addiction yep i get it i understand your stance i'm not even objecting
03:46:04.460 to the stance i'm just saying that um when chair one says uh kybra says well wait a second no it's
03:46:12.060 not you can't you can't make this comparison because in one the woman is the product and the
03:46:17.340 other there's an external product it doesn't matter because the intent of the pusher is the same whether
03:46:21.980 they're the product or not the product it's totally irrelevant both criticisms are just an argument from
03:46:26.700 hypocrisy both of them so it's easy enough to just say okay but here's why that's uh that's faux
03:46:34.060 reasoning you shouldn't reason that way because it leads to bad conclusions essentially okay thank you
03:46:40.060 i have a question so if there's a demand why are you criticizing i'm sorry i have to move things on next
03:46:50.300 tweet i want to have you read it ruby it's your tweet go ahead
03:46:59.500 okay question for you high value men would you rather have a girl who has a high body count
03:47:05.340 or a very low body count but has an only fans
03:47:07.580 yeah so yeah would you rather or has a high body count i just want to make sure yes so someone with
03:47:27.820 a high body count so say someone who slept with like i don't know 50 people or something but has
03:47:32.780 never made only fans content or someone who slept with two people but has made only fans content
03:47:39.980 okay then the i would take the one who has made only fans content with the lower body count if i
03:47:44.940 had to choose between the two i think i'd tend to agree if i had to choose between the two let's do the
03:47:50.220 next tweet i think i'm gonna say i think men prefer little titties okay next next what the
03:47:59.900 fuck okay i don't know okay next if men hate girls who do porn so much then stop watching it and put
03:48:08.540 them out of a job simple okay next we already talked about that if you're one of those people who
03:48:15.180 calls trans girls men boys then you can go ahead and unfollow me oh i should have you read them but
03:48:22.460 whatever um so you mean like intentionally
03:48:29.900 what's the term misgendering or whatever i think it's unreasonable say if there was a trans person
03:48:39.980 sat at this table and it was a trans woman and she looked like a woman i think it would be
03:48:44.620 really socially unreasonable to just say he him for like no reason politically i think it's different
03:48:51.340 but socially i don't yeah so if if we just say that if we even grant that it would be uh rude let's
03:48:57.980 actually just talk about kind of the more core underlying thing here uh is it a male or a female
03:49:03.740 so if uh transgender hold on the question is for her transgender woman is it a male or female or are
03:49:18.540 they a male or female do you mean like legally like in the eyes of the law then yes i don't care what
03:49:26.860 the law has to say yeah you are what you're born so biologically biologically yeah yeah like the person
03:49:36.540 or like go pop i got confused by the it what do you mean like when you said is it male or female
03:49:45.420 did you mean like is the trans person or are there parts private or male yeah i misspoke i meant i mean
03:49:53.020 no no hang on actually he spoke correctly you wouldn't even correct this this but it wouldn't
03:49:57.020 actually even make any sense to correct brian on this if you're on you you don't know what a thing
03:50:03.020 is it is referenced as it because you don't know what it is so it's totally correct inside of the
03:50:09.740 language that we speak to reference something if you don't know what it is to say it because
03:50:14.300 no well yeah she was she was trying to cancel me she's trying to cancel me because no no i actually
03:50:19.340 still have the clarifying question yeah you want me to define it no like when you asked her is it
03:50:24.300 female or male were you asking about the person or somebody has a child if somebody has a child you're
03:50:29.180 like oh is it a boy or a girl it is totally acceptable it is totally i didn't say you can't
03:50:35.100 say it i just said what did you mean no you're trying to like get me like oh no i'm really not
03:50:41.180 are you talking about is this person male or female or are their body parts male or female like
03:50:45.500 which one was your question now you're shifting the goalposts you were that's literally what i said
03:50:49.180 just play it back you're written no your original grievance was about the use of the word it
03:50:53.740 because that like i need a clarification because that confused me are you saying is this person a
03:50:59.820 male is it a boy or a girl in reference to a baby it's you just said in reference to a baby so in
03:51:05.260 reference to what when you asked her that in reference to what that's exactly my question okay
03:51:10.700 thank you that was so easy you don't know he didn't talk about dogs he talks about human being of
03:51:15.900 course i wasn't sure if he was maybe referring to like body parts or what okay because what why would
03:51:22.700 you ask that okay so transgender woman male or female are you asking me now yep biologically male i'm
03:51:37.740 when i'm thinking i'm not thinking because i don't know answer i'm thinking because i'm confused because
03:51:41.260 we're saying man when we mean women and women when we mean man and i think yeah so i think you are
03:51:46.780 biologically what you are but i also do believe socially that it's unnecessary to if someone fits
03:51:53.740 into if someone just comes in here looking like a girl i'm not going to say well are you really a girl
03:51:57.820 like i it's unnecessary in my opinion yeah perhaps but if having like a conversation about what's
03:52:03.260 intellectually true no i i that's another conversation i i agree that's totally different
03:52:09.740 okay well i actually want to talk about dating related to this so um would you object to a man who
03:52:17.900 uh refused would you object if a man refused to date a transgender woman would i object yeah do you think
03:52:25.820 that's objectionable or i think you should be able to date whoever you want okay so if he just i would
03:52:32.620 not date a trans woman no no quarrel no objections yeah yeah specifically for the reason that they're
03:52:39.980 a trans woman is what the audio is the audio phone okay what about you same i wouldn't object they can
03:52:47.260 just do whatever they like and want date whoever they love sure so you're fine with it yeah that's their
03:52:53.740 choice i mean yeah really true yeah it's fine it's just a sexual preference yeah i would object you would
03:52:59.340 object yeah why is that um because that's kind of like them being like bisexual and right like if
03:53:07.420 they like you're saying like if my boyfriend wanted to date a transgender person no no or like a random
03:53:15.980 man i think oh a random man yeah oh i still wouldn't date them if they wanted to you definitely did not
03:53:21.500 listen to the question at all let me repeat it do you would you object if a man did not want to date
03:53:29.260 a trans woman no i wouldn't okay no i wouldn't object no i think people are allowed to have
03:53:36.380 preferences i agree you know well it's not that i object i just think it's a man dressed up like a
03:53:43.660 woman it's not a woman it's not a woman if and if a man a regular man call himself straight and date
03:53:49.260 them i think he's just as delusional and off a little bit just like the other person who think
03:53:53.980 he's a different gender all right let me ask a follow-up question then uh is it straight as a
03:54:01.900 is it straight for a man to date a trans woman yes okay
03:54:11.020 no i actually would call that pansexual okay so not straight no it's not straight but it's not
03:54:17.180 gay either because gay men wouldn't go for trans women i think it's its own sexuality something niche
03:54:23.420 okay not straight he's gay not straight not straight not straight uh wait so you said yes straight yeah
03:54:36.140 okay um so question for you really quick and then we can't linger on this for too long
03:54:43.100 yeah uh so homosexual means same sex right uh yeah so when we say homosexual it means same
03:54:51.180 sex relationship yeah and you would agree that trans women have not changed their sex correct
03:54:59.580 um i don't know enough about the topic they change their to them they change their gender right
03:55:06.300 not their sex though they're still male uh sure i don't know okay maybe it's are you trying to get
03:55:12.060 me to say it's not straight well i'm just i mean so straight is short form slang for heterosexual okay
03:55:19.900 so if you have a male dating a male would you agree that that's a homosexual relationship yeah okay
03:55:29.740 it couldn't be ever a heterosexual relationship because they're both male right i'm not i'm not
03:55:35.740 married to the concept that it's straight i don't even actually know enough about this it's kind of
03:55:40.300 okay that's fine uh let's do the next tweet uh can you just read these please why is it that so
03:55:51.820 many men share the same irrational fear of being used for money that they don't have
03:55:58.460 it's an interest i've heard this before like they're scared of being gold dug but they don't
03:56:04.140 then i've got well it's it's simple it's just it's just based around potential whoa whoa whoa wait
03:56:09.900 wait wait wait what happened to the audio did you because it scuffed no no no no no uh okay i think
03:56:18.780 i do feel like that's in a very similar realm to andrew's tweet about uh that we referred to earlier
03:56:24.220 yeah yeah the uh the answer to this is pretty it's still bad no sorry go ahead keep talking andrew
03:56:32.620 oh um well the answer to this is pretty simple it's the idea is that most people get married young
03:56:39.580 right or at least they used to now the average age is 30 but if you're with a person uh especially in
03:56:45.100 your 20s it's going to be assumed that the man doesn't have very much in the way of resources and
03:56:49.980 they're generally married on resource potentiality and so the the idea here is that okay they
03:56:56.780 accumulate a ton of resources and then they get taken to the divorce court ringer uh so they're still
03:57:02.220 afraid that even if they don't currently have any resources that marrying a gold digger um they would
03:57:08.780 still look at the potential of of outcome of resources and take them take them to the cleaner for it right
03:57:14.140 that's very insightful okay next i guess no objections
03:57:29.020 can you read these please oh okay controversial opinion but men need to work on themselves instead
03:57:34.300 of expecting women to lower their expectations i can bet you almost anything that the majority of
03:57:40.460 these men do not have a lot of the following fit body from regular gym eating healthy having a job
03:57:47.180 where he works hard having good manners and having good social skills i'm talking specifically about
03:57:54.460 you know the kind of men that will you know be on reddit like really hating women like incels and
03:58:01.100 stuff i'm not talking about general you know nice men that are just nice can you pull it back up really
03:58:08.540 uh men need to work on themselves instead of expecting women to okay so you're talking about incels
03:58:22.780 i'm talking about men who complain about women's standards being too high are they wrong
03:58:29.660 well it depends if if the woman's actually high austin you know that photo with the list that we've been
03:58:34.860 meaning to pull up it's like that woman in the restaurant and there she's got like a list
03:58:43.740 i'm just curious you tell me this this this is what this woman wants 5 11 plus responds to text
03:58:48.460 in under two hours pays for dinner makes a plan liberal but can lift heavy things so physically fit
03:58:55.180 also she just to be clear pays for dinner so she wants a provider but she also wants a progressive
03:59:00.860 liberal man aka she's a feminist aka she's not traditional but she's demanding traditional
03:59:06.140 treatment has a passport pretends to listen when i talk about taylor swift guys don't want to do that
03:59:11.260 shit and also six-figure salary uh i think it's what 15 of men or i don't know the exact numbers
03:59:18.140 what the breakdown is in terms of salary but she wants a guy who makes over a hundred thousand
03:59:21.580 dollars a year and austin can you zoom in a little bit like make it big zoom in zoom in zoom in and
03:59:27.180 then scroll down to her mention note she wanted a physically fit man but scroll in on the arm
03:59:37.580 hmm hmm funny funny in it um maybe she wants a guy to lead her to a healthy lifestyle
03:59:48.300 are her expectations too high she's an average looking overweight woman yeah i would say so and
03:59:57.660 i would say the the list that she has there is different from the list in the other tweet which
04:00:03.820 was like do you have a job are you nice there was a yo you wait you were responding to a tweet
04:00:11.500 no i wasn't responding to her tweet no no no you were responding to a tweet no no no i wasn't oh okay
04:00:18.300 it just seems to me like a lot of women want a six-foot guy 100 000 a year but it doesn't say
04:00:25.100 any i didn't say that i've never said that okay but that's those are the complaints that men are
04:00:30.300 having when it comes to their perception of women having high expectations you want a guy who's six
04:00:36.860 foot makes this is this much money funny charismatic nice all these like all the million traits
04:00:42.540 just like okay you want a guy who's six foot that's only 15 percent of men you've just excluded 85
04:00:50.460 percent of men just based on height i'm not saying i'm not talking about you i'm saying in general a
04:00:56.620 lot of women want a tall guy i think those are pretty pretty bad values in my opinion sure okay like
04:01:04.460 listing them out like that that's not like what i look for i think it's actually um it is wait it's not
04:01:11.660 not what you look for like height and all that stuff no okay how tall how tall was your last
04:01:17.020 boyfriend um i think he was like six two six two yeah oh so like that's the one that you broke up
04:01:25.580 with three months ago he broke up with me but you dated him as recently as three months ago yeah but he
04:01:31.900 was six two which is four inches taller than the average male height and also is like two or three
04:01:38.460 percent of men but okay your 2.5 year relationship how tall was he um i think he was um maybe around
04:01:45.180 that height six two like six one six foot well women say they don't care about these things
04:01:51.580 but conveniently how tall are you i'm five eight okay conveniently
04:01:57.340 the two relationships that you've disclosed on this panel yeah they happen to be tall i mean so
04:02:03.260 um the guy before that was the same height as me okay sure that's fine i was just saying like those
04:02:10.780 don't seem like very good values i feel like when you're looking for a partner your number one thing
04:02:15.100 or like i'll just speak for myself it's like do i like who i am around this person do they inspire
04:02:20.460 me to be a better person it's like that kind of thing that's fair well i don't know how you get
04:02:25.660 around attraction though oh yeah no attraction is real too but it's attraction yeah but i mean some women
04:02:31.260 are going to be attracted to taller men right so it's like it's not really a detriment and value
04:02:36.300 for women to say i'm attracted to tall men i don't know that anybody would really object to that because
04:02:41.740 attraction is a thing which uh which all relationships start with right there has to be some kind of some
04:02:47.260 kind of attraction there there might be some outlier relationships where you know they all they care
04:02:52.220 about is emotions but physical attraction seems to be a key pinnacle foundation for most relationships
04:02:58.540 between men and women okay let's let's do the next next tweet would you ever suspect that i ruined
04:03:06.060 men's arseholes for living oh i should have had you said that well
04:03:17.180 did you want a comment on the tweet no i just saw your tweet and thought that was interesting
04:03:24.540 uh when was that tweeted by the way can you when was that okay a while ago very long time ago and
04:03:34.540 i for just the record you know have been quite honest and open that my views have changed in
04:03:41.740 the last you know like two three four years and stuff like that you want to read this one 2014 was 16
04:03:46.540 years old yeah okay moving on go ahead read this one please i don't know the answer but it doesn't
04:03:51.740 matter it still validates my point that women are scared of men is that in a response to something
04:03:57.260 uh it looks like it is but austin can you see what what it is before we pull it up
04:04:05.820 is it to us
04:04:11.020 it's talking about unliving men
04:04:12.620 i don't is it just words
04:04:25.660 i think it's fine i think i know what it is you can pull it up
04:04:29.820 men are afraid women will laugh at them women are afraid men will kill them okay
04:04:35.020 uh andrew i feel like you might have thoughts on this one this is a common sort of uh feminist
04:04:44.380 talking point uh do you have any well i mean it depends on what we're talking about i wasn't
04:04:50.220 able to read the second part of the tweet there uh but i believe that you're referencing the office
04:04:55.020 of national statistics um and this is an office which is in the uk if i remember correctly is that
04:05:01.180 right yeah yeah and so the office of national statistics in the uk is talking about violent
04:05:07.660 assaults or is it talking about unaliving or what's it talking about uh can we put it back up
04:05:12.700 because i didn't get a chance to read it either sorry
04:05:16.700 i mean i was more just interested in the first tweet the secondary tweet is not particularly
04:05:22.300 interesting i mean so yeah i don't know the answer but it doesn't yeah it still validates my points
04:05:28.380 that women are scared of men so yeah the kind of talking point here from the feminist side is that
04:05:33.500 uh well wait women are women are terrified of men because it could get physically assaulted
04:05:38.220 um and we can kind of quibble over when it comes to dv and things like that who's really assaulting who
04:05:44.540 uh but i don't think that that would invalidate any type of fear when you say that well men are afraid
04:05:50.620 of getting laughed at by women no they have other legitimate fears of women like being falsely accused
04:05:56.140 of certain things or being me too or any number of various things uh which they run into with women
04:06:02.540 and those seem like they're just as legitimate of fear as uh as women when they talk about uh these
04:06:08.140 other things such as dv and and things like this so yeah i totally agree i mean i think that tweet is
04:06:13.740 like two years old but i have since learned that you know a lot of men commit murders but also a lot
04:06:20.220 of men are also victims of murders and a lot of violence is men on men as well so thank you robert
04:06:24.940 my um also a woman on man and yeah no this is often overlooked that uh when we when we're looking
04:06:32.300 at the national statistic rates and domestic violence now uh you can make make even a good argument that
04:06:38.220 women are uh participating in dv towards men even more than men are towards women and uh i can if we got
04:06:48.060 into you know essay stats i could give you some good ones on that as well uh but no it's not really
04:06:53.820 very cut and dry uh when it comes to the stats of who's really doing what to who yeah no definitely
04:06:59.100 i would agree and my opinion on that kind of stuff has changed as i as i've gotten a bit older as i've
04:07:05.020 been in like the relationship that i'm in now as well and learn a lot more um so you have a do you
04:07:10.300 it sounds like a man came in and just like fixed me now it's her brainwashed your
04:07:15.020 bullshit that's what it sounds like is that what happened yeah like some some jad came in and was
04:07:19.740 like listen all this stuff that you're talking is bullshit and we need to fix it is that what happened
04:07:25.340 i used to be incredibly wokey and but it was you know i was uneducated in that sense i didn't know
04:07:33.020 much about politics and stuff but i had a what i thought was a good heart and i thought i was you
04:07:37.420 know doing the right thing and fighting the good fight and all that kind of stuff but um
04:07:40.540 um no that's it's pretty accurate you know when i met my partner he definitely taught me a lot and
04:07:45.180 you know i started to see the world how it really is thank you rob thank you robert fix that you
04:07:51.420 should fix ever calling him your partner wait what should nobody ever nobody ever wants to hear my
04:07:56.700 partner it's that's awful maybe it's a british thing yeah i feel you wait go back to the tweet
04:08:03.500 really quick just pull it up to the top yeah the top of it
04:08:11.420 men are afraid so this is really the more interesting one though men are afraid women will
04:08:15.260 laugh at them this is the one the the sort of feminist trope women are afraid men will kill them
04:08:21.340 i mean it sort of downplays the amount of catastrophe women can inflict on men and sort of tends to paint all
04:08:28.300 men as these predators or violent or this sort of thing i mean typical feminist trope that uh women
04:08:35.260 are wonderful and men are uh predators and this sort of thing but um it'd kind of be like
04:08:43.900 if a if a man said um pull it back up really quick just so i can think of the like a sort of counter
04:08:50.540 so women are afraid men will
04:08:57.100 hmm well sort of chuck them and then what pull it back up please pull it back up women are afraid
04:09:04.380 women or women are afraid that men will chuck them and men are afraid that women will falsely accuse
04:09:11.980 them of rape and then they'll spend 10 years in prison it's just kind of like okay bro yeah and one of the
04:09:18.300 ways uh just a very quick analogy before he moves on that i often will use here is uh if you think
04:09:24.700 about when you're walking down the street at night if a group of men is approaching you you very well may
04:09:29.900 cross the street and i don't think anybody would blame you but women seem to get very upset that men
04:09:35.020 won't hire women even though it's the same exact concept the same exact concept is uh this could really
04:09:42.780 lead to a really bad outcome for me if i stay on the street where these men are approaching me
04:09:47.820 is the same exact concept of this could lead to a really bad outcome for me if i hire females in
04:09:52.460 my office place i guess both are scared from one another for certain things it's just human
04:10:03.100 in a whole office though like only men or like certain positions the woman is not qualifying because
04:10:08.540 i get that well well like any any listen any time a man take hires a woman he's taking a risk that he
04:10:17.020 would not be taking with a man that is the truth that's true and so because that is true that's
04:10:22.780 true um i understand why men guard themselves from this because of the reputational damage which can
04:10:29.260 occur or the financial damage or even the prison which could occur from an even an allegation which
04:10:36.300 could cost him his entire company a livelihood that he would not have to deal with with men so i understand
04:10:41.180 why they would select for men over women when it came to any job and i think that this is the same
04:10:46.860 kind of logic that women have where they don't think that the men who are walking towards them
04:10:51.340 necessarily are going to do anything to them but why not be on the safe side it's the same thing when
04:10:56.540 men are hiring women right i'm not i'm not necessarily saying that she's going to do anything but why take
04:11:01.340 the risk right but if you're a business owner like you genuinely wouldn't take the risk at all you know just
04:11:08.140 knowing that there are media outlets that are pc or whatever like you just would you take the risk
04:11:12.620 of the man of the men at night no so i mean i am a business owner i'm going to be honest like i'm
04:11:20.460 a business owner i have taken a risk hiring a woman who actually ended up not but he's not talking about
04:11:26.620 you everything he actually asked me no but okay well would you be speaking in general okay wait
04:11:31.740 hang on hang on let's finish our exchange let's finish our exchange yeah if if it was a street
04:11:35.740 that i knew to be dangerous and it was dark then no yeah then no right exactly logically no same with
04:11:42.460 the hiring same this well this is the same kind of mindset that men have that you use for hiring i
04:11:48.300 see they're thinking the same thing they're not thinking that that everyone was going to do this or
04:11:52.940 even most right but just the fact that they're a woman adds to this potential so it's a risk most men are
04:12:00.540 not going to assault you at night they're not going to yeah no i agree i'm only even calling
04:12:04.700 because i'm surprised just your so what you're doing is you're leaning on the side of caution right yes i
04:12:09.820 agree wait so are you saying that you don't think women should get hired no he's saying the risk for
04:12:16.940 him is just not worth it you know hang on hang on since i understand that you know a little bit about
04:12:21.420 basic logic uh can you tell me the distinction between an is statement and an ought statement what is
04:12:27.580 the difference between a descriptor and a prescriptor can you tell me the difference real
04:12:31.980 quick wait how is this relevant yeah what's the difference between a descriptor and a prescriptor
04:12:40.860 what are you like a description versus prescription because you just made an
04:12:45.020 ought claim so you're what you're saying is we ought do no honestly honestly i did kind of grossly i did
04:12:50.380 kind of grossly descriptive claims i gave two descriptors i did not give a prescription so why
04:12:57.500 did you assume an ought why did you assume that i think x needs to happen when all i did was give a
04:13:03.740 descriptor for two things which exist um so robert tanner so what were you saying you're just saying that
04:13:10.780 it's like risky or what yeah i'm saying that that men who hire women are taking more of a risk than if they
04:13:16.780 hire men and i think that women if they're being approached by men at night are taking more of a
04:13:22.380 risk than men oh okay yeah they're they're descriptors so do you think it's like okay to
04:13:29.580 where did you get the ought claim of so what you're really saying is this where did that even come into
04:13:33.980 your brain can you tell me the exact moment that though so what you're really saying is actually came
04:13:39.740 into your brain i was i was being a little confrontational i'm sorry but you were about to
04:13:43.500 say do you think it's okay what um i was trying to figure out like because there's anti-discrimination
04:13:51.740 laws about that sort of thing like how do you feel about those wait but you were no no you were about
04:13:57.260 to say do you think it's okay if what oh um i lost my train of thought if uh if if men don't hire women
04:14:05.100 do i think that's okay yeah just for the reason yeah i think it's fine like if every single male ceo
04:14:11.500 didn't hire women yeah would you like it would you say that you like it i'm curious i that i think
04:14:18.460 that if uh do you think it's positive for society yeah so i think if it could be demonstrated that
04:14:24.700 the risk uh is is highly mitigated uh somehow through some set course of laws or values and now
04:14:31.500 suddenly women don't pose more of a risk towards men in the workplace uh who happen to be their
04:14:36.140 superiors then i would be fine with it but since that is not the case i have no problem with men
04:14:41.820 selecting who they want to hire and who they don't want to hire and by the way who the hell is anybody
04:14:47.500 to tell anybody who they need to hire for their business anyway it's none of your damn business
04:14:52.700 it's literally none of your damn business if if a man says i don't want to hire any women just
04:14:57.580 because they're women why the hell is that any of your business i can speak from experience my
04:15:03.420 partner and i own a company and we now don't hire women because they mess us around so much so we
04:15:09.820 actually just we avoid well it's the same thing in the content creation world here's a dirty secret
04:15:15.340 right many many men male content creators will not work with female content creators because
04:15:21.660 of how many problems they cause inside of the content creation space when it comes to slander
04:15:27.900 reputational damage allegations all sorts of things for drumming up drama it's a really bad idea a lot
04:15:34.060 of women in the female content creator space also prefer to work with men over women because of this
04:15:40.380 type of drama and slander which occurs so it doesn't surprise me a bit um and this is this seems to be
04:15:46.780 universalized uh regardless of the industry it's uh it's a much higher risk and so no so my answer
04:15:53.820 very specifically is if men don't want to hire uh women am i for that yes absolutely so what is your
04:16:02.540 take on the government's position
04:16:07.420 the government position on what because on affirmative action on affirmative action for women and hiring
04:16:12.700 status quo it's all a bunch of bullshit that's totally illogical and can't be backed up by any
04:16:17.660 moral stance whatsoever that's my take on it um i meant the anti-discrimination laws when it comes to
04:16:24.700 hiring yeah i just told you when it comes to anti-discriminatory laws it's none of the government's
04:16:31.020 business what a private individual does with their business and who they choose to hire is none of
04:16:37.420 anybody's damn business and it never has been ever and saying that they need to have a quota like in
04:16:43.260 california where if you have over 15 employees now suddenly we have to have a diversity quota
04:16:47.740 not only is that unconstitutional where framers would roll over in their grave but i think it's
04:16:52.220 immoral and what's more uh i've never heard a good justified argument for it other than
04:16:58.060 but people people were historically discriminated against it's like they're still discriminated against
04:17:04.060 it's just that now we have laws that they evade they still don't want to hire women they just try
04:17:09.020 to evade the laws so that they don't hire women i have one question though that came up um like if you're
04:17:15.980 a woman let's say you are getting a divorce with your husband and you you're let's just say you discover
04:17:23.100 this female lawyer that has a lot of cases and representing women in these divorce cases then i think like
04:17:31.020 we could even debate like in this case would it be lower risk to hire this woman versus a man like
04:17:38.620 a random man divorce lawyer all sorts of isolated cases okay because you said like universal across
04:17:45.340 industries and that's actually what came up to mind uh-huh well hang on i'm trying to answer the
04:17:49.820 question for you right so i think that you can point to all sorts of individual cases where it could be
04:17:54.220 superior to hire a woman over a man right there's all sorts of those but that should be completely and totally
04:18:00.700 up to the employer to make such a decision on behalf of this firm should not be up in any way
04:18:06.140 shape or form to the government it's none of their damn business what a person does with their firm
04:18:11.180 and never has been any of their business what a person does with the firm it's a bunch of
04:18:15.260 woke progressive crazies who endlessly demand that such a thing be done and it's not good for anyway
04:18:21.020 it's not good for society it's not good for the workers it's not good for the business not good
04:18:24.780 for anybody and it suppresses wages by the way there's there's a question though i have a question
04:18:30.300 for for andrew so if there if you're a woman let's put you in a perspective of a woman and you're super
04:18:38.060 qualified for this job but this guy doesn't want to hire you because you're a woman how would you go
04:18:43.660 about that situation like how would you i would personally i'd say that's freedom baby that's freedom
04:18:49.020 right aren't we all about freedom aren't we all about the freedom truly i would i have i have a
04:18:55.260 question so like let's say you're a man who's never committed any crime you would never strike a woman
04:19:00.380 you would never attack a woman you'd never do any harm to a woman and you are walking down the street at
04:19:06.060 night and a woman's coming and then you see her and then she's like crosses the street in fear in fear
04:19:14.300 and you are made to feel like you're less than you're a predator there's this assumption that
04:19:20.860 you would have you would have victimized her had she not done this how's the man supposed to
04:19:27.100 i would just be like what the hell is wrong with her honestly but i don't know i just i guess i mean
04:19:31.820 you can say that to the point like just play devil's advocate like you really just could go apply
04:19:36.780 somewhere else just like how you know that man you know maybe he shouldn't feel like his feelings are
04:19:41.500 hurt i want like maybe don't take it really quick on that thing really quick on that thing
04:19:46.380 like it's this interesting thing it's like well you know oh just his feelings are hurt but like what's
04:19:51.100 worse a woman doesn't get a specific job or women paint all men as predator violent
04:19:59.020 grapists i kind of feel like one is worse than the other i think why do they always want to work for
04:20:07.020 a bunch of predators anyway why are we comparing a bunch of predators and they're like we can't
04:20:12.060 wait to go work for them though well that's like saying why would you want to put food okay really
04:20:15.900 quick and then i'm going to move it on i want to answer this first of all it's not black and white
04:20:20.300 it's not all men predators and all women want to think that men predators because i've seen both sides
04:20:26.460 especially in the middle east so we have to to take every case specifically yes a lot of women's
04:20:32.940 nowadays especially in america complaining they use men but in the other hand they want to blame
04:20:38.620 them and attack them but if you have a really high qualified woman and you look at her history
04:20:43.180 she never complained of anybody she come to work just to work i would actually look at that case and
04:20:49.020 yes hire her but if somebody who's sorry to say about younger would come and it's it's you know one of
04:20:55.020 her first few jobs right and she goes really really by the book and she have this feminist mentality i
04:21:01.340 would not hire her but you really need to select the people good but you cannot classify people
04:21:07.020 black or white in that specific matter because i think both of us male and feeling female in both
04:21:13.100 sides of the equation a lot of men did rape women a lot of men did do things not specifically here but
04:21:18.780 you know maybe if you hadn't been on your phone while austin was giving the pre-show instructions mind
04:21:23.820 you took into me you've you've been on the show three times you've heard the pre-show instructions
04:21:28.780 three times we ask you not to use this word what word she doesn't even know she's been here three
04:21:35.980 times i i in fact in fact i scolded you on your first time on the show we try to avoid these words
04:21:42.860 because youtube and these platforms tend to penalize you if you use these words anyways for that reason
04:21:48.540 i have to move things on go ahead austin can we do the next tweet all right ruby can you read it please
04:21:54.940 uh you want me to read it not that word just use an essay on that word okay uh and is this so if men
04:22:04.540 stop okay yeah you can read it just say great okay is this in response i don't even okay if men stop
04:22:10.380 killing and are in women that would help not all men but not enough men do it my friend was kidnapped
04:22:19.660 in her taxi and our word and i've been attacked by men on nights out groped in clubs friends have been
04:22:24.860 followed home the list goes on so i think that's a response to something and it is a true story i mean
04:22:30.700 like i said before i definitely don't have the same woke opinion of oh my god men are this like
04:22:35.420 i do think that's you know well i think that changes my age but i do know yeah we i guess we
04:22:40.300 already kind of delved into the whole thing but it's very sad to the girl that happened to us but
04:22:45.100 i i mean like to andrew's point if like enough women create conflict in the workplace is it fair for
04:22:50.620 the men to choose to not hire women then well yeah and i know like i said plenty of women that won't
04:22:56.140 hire women as well yeah because and it's not even just that they cause conflict it's that they call
04:23:01.580 in sick more they can't take any criticism that's all conflict that's all causing well yeah i mean
04:23:07.340 instead of social conflict though they'll be oh you know i don't feel well i'm really stressed and
04:23:12.060 this was men just get on let's do the next tweet
04:23:16.380 i've had cbt and dbt i think the issue is men are
04:23:21.020 you want to read it if i pull these up can you just read it okay yeah i've had cbt and dbt and i think
04:23:27.180 the issue is men are trash so cbt cognitive behavioral therapy what's dbt uh dialectical
04:23:34.540 behavioral therapy okay and so men are trash why do you say that so i think yeah that's just another
04:23:41.420 like three or four year old tweet from when i was just immature then upset so i thought it was okay to
04:23:46.380 tweet stuff like that oh okay all right so you had all that therapy and all it took was a man to fix
04:23:51.420 your ass that's crazy it is interesting that's a good point that's a really good yeah all that
04:23:57.420 psychologizing all it took was a man and suddenly you're fixed isn't that amazing this is what the
04:24:02.460 point i was making earlier is i think you know women are very vulnerable and if you don't have
04:24:06.860 like that great father figure when you're growing up it can lead women into you know radical feminism
04:24:11.340 and you don't even feel that way you're just led into it and all it takes is you know exactly
04:24:16.220 someone to change your perspective and you can be like holy crap what was i doing were your
04:24:19.820 therapists were your therapists men or women uh men but i was very young so i didn't really
04:24:28.060 wouldn't have gone in all right uh next tweet
04:24:33.660 men you owe me dollar dollar bills for this education feminism equality slut shaming wife material
04:24:42.140 wait click on the photo yeah i think we'll need the photos and then you'll do the arrow a guide to
04:24:46.860 the wifey material complex also known as the first okay next ever heard a guy say crap like this i
04:24:52.140 prefer girls who are naturally beautiful not not interested she fucked me up wait what i don't want
04:24:57.020 a girl who other guys look at the sex is too good she's not marriage material she's sexy not pretty i can
04:25:01.900 okay all right next telling women not to have sex with him on the first date don't text him first
04:25:09.740 slut shaming okay men have okay
04:25:15.180 perpetuates our culture okay
04:25:17.100 perpetuates our culture okay
04:25:24.220 i don't know so what is it about the madonna whore complex or something i don't know
04:25:28.140 yeah i couldn't read it all quickly but when was that tweet from i don't know all right next one then
04:25:32.620 i mean i do feel like you're going to get the same answers for every single tweet because all the
04:25:39.900 tweets are from like 2021 2022 read it okay listen up men all women are superior i'm so happy he
04:25:47.260 understood so quickly the powerful woman has no need to tear other women down it's disgusting seeing
04:25:52.940 all the doms who are commenting agreeing fellow s workers you are uh follow s workers or your colleagues
04:25:59.820 and your equals but what are the tweets a single penis saved and saved it all see
04:26:11.100 just a single guy changed all the entire attitude of all this
04:26:15.100 bullshit you know what i mean i think it's also age i think it is definitely an age thing because
04:26:22.620 all women are superior you would get you would get cancelled if you said this
04:26:27.740 shit as a man by the way you know what i would love it if either of you two had twitter when you
04:26:32.780 were what 20 or 19 and i would love to see yeah i had some uh i had some pretty cringe libertarian
04:26:39.980 takes when i was young i think if you're not if you're not a liberal when you're young i'll admit
04:26:43.740 to that but i was always always the base individual you see before you mine is some cringe libertarian
04:26:49.660 takes that i had wait so what what you said if you're not a liberal when you're young or well
04:26:54.460 there's that saying isn't it if you're not a liberal when you're young you've got no heart
04:26:57.660 but if you're still a liberal when you're older you've got no brain you're not that old
04:27:03.340 but i'm getting that's for that's for like 30 40 50 year old women not for women in their 20s
04:27:08.700 what happened was chad came and fixed you right chad came and he saw it open your skull and he fixed
04:27:14.620 your brain right he thought he he was like well that doesn't belong there he threw that shit out
04:27:18.540 yeah well that doesn't belong there either he threw that behind his shoulder
04:27:22.380 right and then he stitched it back up and then and you were fine right literally
04:27:27.740 what's up with the like save damsel like like maybe it's just life experiences
04:27:34.380 no no it's true it is true though it is true like i i can be the first to say like i lacked guidance
04:27:40.060 from a father figure in my life and i was sort of you know guided into the industry that i got into
04:27:47.580 into the adult industry when i you know wouldn't have done that if i just had you know a father
04:27:52.220 figure or you know it's just better people in my life being like you shouldn't you want to do that
04:27:57.500 because there's some negative consequences to that but then you know meeting another person not only
04:28:03.740 it's not just that he says don't do this and i'm like yes okay he obviously shows me things he teaches
04:28:07.980 me things you know and enlightens me and then i can decide for myself that i believe the same things as
04:28:12.700 him and you know adopt them as my own values as well so it's not just a case of a man telling you
04:28:18.540 what to do and you obey he he teaches and so he was kind of like stepping in in the figure like role
04:28:26.220 model kind of somewhat i don't think you know that kind of i guess just kind of saying you know have
04:28:34.060 you thought about things this way and then we go oh yeah okay that that makes sense i see yeah next
04:28:39.580 imagine okay can do you want to read it or imagine commenting then blocking so i can't reply
04:28:48.380 obviously because you know she's full of crap being a dom is not about being nasty everything
04:28:53.500 has to be consensual i may be new to twitter but i'm a dom in real life this is my kink i think this
04:29:00.220 was just about some girls being nasty to people and my point was that being nasty doesn't make you
04:29:05.580 dominant and talking over people doesn't make you dominant next i'll say she like one of my first
04:29:11.820 ever tweets
04:29:17.820 i'm a dom and here to make men suffer to make myself richer
04:29:22.300 2020. so you're like fin dom or dom? that was what i started doing yeah at the advice
04:29:28.300 you still do it or no no at the advice of who uh so it was my ex-partner who was uh
04:29:36.460 a porn addict actually who sort of got me into doing this kind of stuff when i was a lot younger
04:29:42.060 and then yeah next
04:29:45.740 whoa okay this is a lot can you read read it um i can but it's just chat gpt so it's just for views
04:29:56.540 so it's just a made-up story to get people to read oh it's not real no it's just like for content
04:30:02.460 just for twitter so my twitter's wait scroll down to the date the date on it oh careful pro okay
04:30:10.700 but yeah so it's just the moment you see a picture on twitter man you just shouldn't even okay all
04:30:15.100 right um okay um next
04:30:19.340 is it cardi b lyrics uh i don't think men like toxic bitches just saying
04:30:30.620 i don't think men like toxic but okay next
04:30:32.780 okay yeah no i'll stand by this one something that gives me the ick is when a grown man uses the
04:30:42.300 word tummy instead of stomach i mean i don't know if that's a british thing man recently used the word
04:30:49.500 tummy he told another man to lift up his shirt and let him see his tummy in fact i just wanted to
04:30:54.220 to so i'm i'm gonna agree with you on this i've seen this firsthand and yeah that would i agree with that take
04:31:03.020 all right let's do the next one and then we do have more tweets but really quick jj mad says feminism
04:31:09.100 is the belief that women's vaginas can never smell bad what okay women's sports are as good as
04:31:14.940 male sports are even better and women can also fight in wars because wonder woman is a movie
04:31:19.900 hey yo uh jj thank you so much man really appreciate it thank you for the super chat if
04:31:24.780 you want to get the message in hundred dollars to read uh two hundred dollars for tts thank you man
04:31:30.060 appreciate it now going to um uh you have three different names or whatever call me yes uh actually
04:31:40.300 wait quickly before we do that there's some images at the very end i want to go there first and then
04:31:48.540 we'll go to the tweets and then we'll get into other people's pre-show notes the chair one
04:31:58.140 ah yes this is you oh yeah okay so i i have before you pull it up i have a question so yeah uh we always
04:32:05.500 i always do a deep dive on people's instagrams and socials and so forth before the show uh i'm curious
04:32:13.420 what happened so uh let's see the first photo oh my god okay so that's you the third one over
04:32:22.220 right yeah okay so that's you i don't know cheerleader in high school and then next scroll
04:32:30.380 scroll through too big scroll it out a bit yeah all right i don't even smoke i just thought i looked
04:32:36.460 next oh wait that's somebody else okay i mean and then there's a bunch of other like on your
04:32:42.220 instagram or whatever so what what happened from like cheerleader in high school to like i'm now a
04:32:48.940 e-girl oh emo goth whatever what's the story there did you watch batman you watched batman didn't you
04:32:56.380 i watched i watched batman and then my whole life my whole life changed no i'm just kidding um so even
04:33:03.260 when i was a cheerleader i was actually also a skater too and like so i was always kind of like
04:33:09.100 a little whatever you know but um i don't know it's just a style that i like and i know that
04:33:18.700 usually you see people and you're like oh this person's just like wearing clothes but it's not like
04:33:25.260 i don't know um i don't know what to say about it i know that was it wasn't looking for anything to
04:33:33.100 deep i was just curious like i don't know did some guy break up with you and you're like i'm gonna
04:33:39.180 oh no i just think the style is super cool okay and then we have a photo for kami
04:33:46.380 i had questions also let's get her photo no no no no it's like all the way at the end
04:33:53.660 it's like that photo with the cake that you had yeah wait all right pull it up oh wait you don't
04:34:00.060 want the cake that you just showed wait click this one oh that's fine i'm like as long as you
04:34:06.940 don't show the yeah yeah so yes so here here's this right yes make it bigger okay or you believe
04:34:15.740 me now when i say and then next one over
04:34:18.060 and then this is you like shaming like one of your findom subs or whatever with like a small
04:34:28.380 dick yeah this year wow and that photo the one with you and the cake that's from i think 10 years
04:34:33.740 ago or something so what happened between then then and then you doing and we have to pull up your
04:34:41.660 tweets because we'll see those but yeah and then doing fin dumb and going like this to basically
04:34:49.500 uh humiliate men online yeah i wish you showed more photos showing the progress because a lot happened
04:34:55.980 like just in general in my life like before i was very believe it or not i was very anti-adult work
04:35:02.460 and i actually like even during covid when a lot of people had you know ofs and stuff like i was
04:35:09.260 honestly a little judgmental like i'm not gonna lie and then i discovered um on twitter findom which
04:35:17.180 was this thing that this is like my origin story this thing that basically described like my general
04:35:23.500 like life and relationships with guys uh my ex ex like when he asked me to be his girlfriend i actually
04:35:30.460 was kind of like like let me think about it like you know can we just get to know each other for like
04:35:35.740 three more weeks and then right and then literally the day i told him like you know i thought about
04:35:40.940 i really like you like i want to be your girlfriend if like the offer still stands and he gave me like
04:35:45.260 his credit card and just you know he wasn't even a fin sub he just had that like role i guess of you
04:35:52.860 know provider or whatever but he did like seeing me have like a more luxury lifestyle or whatever like
04:35:58.460 you know provided by him and this very similar thing happened with my ex and then when i discovered
04:36:04.860 findom on twitter i felt honestly like it was like i found found kind of like my community um and like
04:36:14.540 it's been like a long journey since then like i won't bore you guys with the details but like
04:36:18.300 that's kind of the general vibe it's been a journey though uh-huh wait what it's been a journey it's been
04:36:23.340 quite a journey it's been a journey it's been a journey because it started off with like findom you
04:36:28.460 know like i don't care about your guys it's mental health like you know like i didn't think about
04:36:32.060 those things because i was 22 and then i took a break when i started to think about those things
04:36:38.300 for until beginning of last year and then also like i always liked fem dom and then i you know found
04:36:45.420 these kind of these like og doms who are more into like mindful practice like longer term kind of like ds
04:36:52.940 relationships and i was like you know i think that's pretty cool i want to try it like try to have
04:36:58.140 these kind of subs and see how it's different and i'm going to say it's not as lucrative but i never
04:37:02.860 did it for the money um i felt like it was like kind of like finding my community and my people and
04:37:07.580 like it's very heavily stigmatized because it is adult work like in the beginning when i took my hiatus
04:37:14.540 i was actually kind of in denial about it being sex work because like it was like non-nude and you know
04:37:20.620 all that stuff usually like i don't i wasn't even showing cleavage that year um really and yeah i
04:37:28.060 later was like you know i do accept that this makes me happy and gives me you know fulfillment
04:37:33.900 okay that was the long let's let's get into the tweets
04:37:37.100 yeah we can so there's this is it the site first i think we can pull we'll pull that up then we'll
04:37:51.260 get into the tweets yeah oh f11 okay um we won't linger on this for long but make it big
04:37:58.940 big so i can see it you're an elite elite asian fight financial dominatrix and pro dom
04:38:07.180 it's 45 initial tribute i'm assuming the tribute like they have to pay you 45 just for you to respond
04:38:15.020 to an initial message correct basically yes okay then you have a debt contract for 88 or something
04:38:22.300 slave contract for 111 scroll down scroll down scroll down scroll down scroll down scroll down
04:38:26.940 okay a bunch of other stuff ira you do wait you do irl sessions wait wait stay there uh ira yeah
04:38:34.860 yeah right there irl sessions under cash meets yes because usually the terms are used interchangeably
04:38:41.580 like sessions meets and then a bunch of subs or potential subs got confused so i put both so cash
04:38:47.420 meet is just basically meet up in person for money yeah okay like just hand you cash ATM date shopping
04:38:53.180 date so ATM date what is that i really want one it's like basically just when you guys go to an ATM
04:38:58.540 you don't look at his password or anything you tell him how much to withdraw he just withdraws and
04:39:01.900 and gives it to you and then okay shopping i'm mad just imagine this prostitute talking
04:39:06.060 about my wife ever oh shit was that a hot was that a hop i'm sorry i'm sorry about that yeah that definitely
04:39:12.860 we heard that yeah and i realized earlier when i said a thousand days i literally just met lunch and
04:39:19.900 dinner dates i just wanted to clarify okay i've not slept with that many guys wait go back up i don't
04:39:25.900 think i finished the rest of the uh i come bookings uh deposit is 150 okay body worship cbt what the
04:39:34.780 fuck okay better training don subject okay scroll down scroll down two hours 150 dollars uh you do irl
04:39:41.900 cuckolding or double dom you get cucked by you and your fiancee what the have you guys done this yeah so they pay
04:39:49.100 you 300 they pay you 300 and then they i love it they get to watch they get to sit in the corner or
04:39:55.500 some shit yeah sometimes we like tie them up like blindfold them and tie them up like to a chair and
04:40:02.860 then like they can't see anything or sometimes i'll like cover with a blanket and like you know wear a
04:40:07.900 bra because um they don't deserve to see that and then the what's the bottom what's at the bottom
04:40:13.820 here virtual i'll scroll down a bit more scroll down scroll down is that coaching for uh you teach
04:40:21.740 women how to do this too okay next i actually yeah you know what i have that but i actually don't
04:40:26.700 and then you do the cash meets la santa barbara 100 okay so do you like is it escorting like you
04:40:34.220 sleep with the dudes or no no okay no even the cuckolding it's literally just strictly me and my
04:40:39.980 fiancee i'm monogamous yes in terms of intercourse oh this is you doing okay yeah okay can i have you
04:40:48.540 read these okay i'll be gracing you losers with my holy presence to celebrate my birthday with my
04:40:54.300 obedient slaves and mutts live all the way from paradise in hawaii scroll down or actually don't
04:40:59.500 scroll down fuck it next wait it's not okay i think it's safe for work the fantasy you didn't know
04:41:05.420 you had being passed around by two hottest brightest asian doms me and goddess vanity
04:41:12.220 lucky for you send each doms tribute plus 20 and we'll make a group chat and mercilessly drain your
04:41:17.580 bank account yeah i have a question for you if uh if a guy like part of his kink involved him like
04:41:23.660 spending so much money on you that you would end up like bankrupting him would you do it so um the
04:41:30.380 year that i started findom and i didn't realize how common this actually is like i basically was
04:41:36.700 doing and they wouldn't even tell me they would just be like drain me more but actually now i will
04:41:40.540 ask like their salary i will get an idea of their bills and make a conscious decision not to drain
04:41:46.300 them to like literally zero have you drained have you drained a guy have i drained a guy yeah yeah to
04:41:53.420 zero to zero to zero in 2021 uh 20 2021 yes there was this guy he was telling me and then he said he
04:42:04.700 wasn't paying off his credit cards so he then he had debt and had to quit fin dom so even though i
04:42:10.700 didn't drain his bank account to zero he told me that and then that's when we you know part of ways but
04:42:16.940 yeah wait did somebody in the chat says i might have missed this earlier said that you um your
04:42:23.420 husband's a millionaire so my ex and my ex ex they are millionaires and then my current fiance like
04:42:33.580 around one million net worth but he's not making like a million a year so by definition technically
04:42:39.900 he's a millionaire okay his net worth does he work a normal job yeah he does actually like you like
04:42:46.780 six figures yes yes like tech lead at a big tech company which is the background i came from we
04:42:52.380 actually met through like industry work he's 26 he's one day older than me he's 26 and he's a net
04:42:58.620 worth of a million yeah why are why are you guys meeting up with random dudes and fucking in front
04:43:04.620 of them for 150 dollars it's truly truly just because we love it like the price actually drives away a
04:43:12.380 bunch of like flaky people um otherwise we'll just do it for like i think that's i mean it seems low
04:43:19.420 it is low but you know what if you raise it too high like we'll just be like anticipating the next
04:43:24.940 one like oh when's the next time we get a like double dollar he's got he's 26 he's got a million
04:43:30.540 dollar net worth he makes six figures why it just almost seems like a safety concern too why would you
04:43:38.860 fuck in front of randoms for i mean is it like like they can't film they can't even see we usually
04:43:45.100 blindfold them turn them away both of you on it honestly yes like in the beginning it was mostly
04:43:51.100 turning me on and then he tried it and then he actually did like it to have some pathetic dude yeah
04:43:59.180 and we'll usually do when we're traveling and it will be like a pretty nice hotel usually and it's just
04:44:04.140 like so exciting like we're like a kinky couple who's like actually works in like a like a practical
04:44:11.900 sense in terms of like yeah but how's that not cuckoldry like if you if your dude allows his chick
04:44:20.060 allows men to watch her get on purpose how's that not cuckoldry they are not watching
04:44:25.660 because i i do you mean they're not watching like i just said they blindfold you know they can't record
04:44:30.860 they can't see anything but you said before they're watching i heard you say they watch yeah
04:44:35.260 like they're in the room blindfolded all of them you've never had so they watch it without
04:44:40.220 watching or wear a bra or wear a bra and so you're saying you've never had a cuck watching you guys
04:44:46.300 fuck they all want to be blindfolded i don't buy it so the first time like yes a sub did see us
04:44:53.100 fuck but then i started to get nervous a bit because my i feel like my fiance he was just under too
04:44:59.020 much pressure so then i pulled up the blanket but technically yes one cuck has seen all right
04:45:05.260 this is sounding a little dubious but okay next next tweet uh go ahead read it do you think that
04:45:12.540 all men should be locked up and abused and used by women yes yes yes clearly engagement farming that
04:45:20.140 did not work wow and that was august so that was like two months ago or something yeah i'm not even
04:45:25.420 gonna lie i was engagement farming that's why there's yes yes yes you sound like a radical
04:45:30.220 feminist but let me tell you no one in my personal life or work life would call me a radical feminist
04:45:36.620 wait pull it back up like i've never been called a feminist actually in my whole life
04:45:41.900 yeah yeah this is a kinky consensual and then clearly yes yes yes because i want people to engage
04:45:48.860 with it i mean it failed because i was shadow banned by twitter but sad life
04:45:56.780 okay uh i don't think a lot of men would be able to get away with tweeting something like that unless
04:46:03.340 i'm kind of misunderstanding some sort of context here but like there are um male doms usually tweeting
04:46:10.780 the same thing because it will usually be geared towards men okay context
04:46:17.420 ill wtf i hate this trad wife trend slash niche slash whatever tf female supremacy forever so you're
04:46:25.660 a female supremacist um i would say like my persona for work like yes i do strictly have to say this
04:46:34.620 um like in my personal life i don't think it's black and white honestly i i if i had to pick a
04:46:40.140 stance i would say male and female people should try to be equal overall all right next tweet no such a
04:46:46.940 thing i know i think it's too idealized but being male maybe we should scroll up is it safe can you check
04:46:53.900 first please oh yeah uh what is your biggest egg in a sub yeah pink male okay i i could have said being
04:47:06.380 an ugly male that's my ick but yeah because a lot of them are attractive the misandry is crazy um all
04:47:13.900 right next it's like you're contradicting yourself all the time yeah you know sometimes business and
04:47:19.580 personal is different you want to read this yeah asian women are superior over white men
04:47:23.660 and that's a fact why did you censor men because um well specifically if you look at my other social
04:47:30.300 media like i don't do this but specifically for findom i censor men because it's just everything
04:47:36.620 in findom it's anything related to men is unpleasant okay even the word back up pull that one back up the
04:47:42.780 same one
04:47:46.060 oh f11 please also this is toward my target audience obviously i would never say
04:47:52.060 that to like a white man this entire night so you read this again asian women are what are superior
04:47:57.580 over white men and that's a fact it's not well it's interesting this entire night you've kind of been
04:48:03.020 like like we're the minority and yes that's what i truly believe you know but you've been like well
04:48:10.380 you've been kind of super woke and like triggered by like all the any sort of like thing you disagreed
04:48:16.540 politically when it came to you you mentioned you used all the buzzwords homophobia you talked
04:48:22.860 you talked about this racism and all this stuff but like here you are like here's a perfect perfect
04:48:29.260 example of you yeah being racist and sexist i mean so this is race play i think it was mentioned before
04:48:35.660 in a previous yes and i actually specifically if you go back to my tweets i have specific disclaimer saying
04:48:43.020 i only tweet um race play tweets about white people and japanese people like white men and japanese men
04:48:51.900 so if you don't consent to that this is your warning to unfollow wow yeah i actually have a very bio
04:48:59.980 that's not in your bio so that's a good point because at one point like my bio like did get deleted
04:49:07.180 and i just kind of like did it in a rush but you're right i should add that do you think it would be
04:49:11.420 okay for a white s worker to say white women are superior to asian women yes yes a lot oh wait do you
04:49:19.820 mean okay as in do you say if i decided for work i was going to tweet wait by the way i said men white
04:49:27.020 men but a lot of white doms they're like because i'm also in like the chinese like kink community basically
04:49:33.900 in bay area a lot of them and also internationally like a lot of them love white women who specifically
04:49:40.380 do race play for asian guys no i do i do know i am aware of that yeah so i i do see why you do it
04:49:47.580 yeah i mean it's their business but would you say it was okay say if my audience was women i could say
04:49:53.580 white women are so much better than asian women so specifically woman to woman no i would never i would
04:50:00.060 never say the reverse either i would never so it's okay to hurt men but it's not okay to hurt women
04:50:04.940 for the sake of business yes because it's like a kink it's really if it's just a target audience so
04:50:10.940 what you're saying i would know you do it for work so and i totally understand that obviously with all
04:50:15.020 this stuff i have different work accounts so i i totally get that yeah but so why is it different
04:50:19.740 if i did it just for work not for personal if i said oh well i dominate asian women and i tell them
04:50:26.620 that i'm better than them because i'm white but it's only for work uh-huh yeah because i think one
04:50:31.420 is consensual and in a very contained environment where both people feel safe they know this is a
04:50:36.380 role play it's been discussed and there are disclaimers um and then the other one is basically
04:50:42.540 just being out in society and you know spreading your prejudices which is wait she's
04:50:48.620 a personal life question she said it would be for work for her as a white woman to do this
04:50:53.580 yeah i said that's okay for work oh you're fine yeah i said that's okay because it people are
04:50:59.740 understanding they have this expectation well then then i don't understand what would your objection
04:51:05.100 be to okay like a racial organization where the person says who's running it oh i'm just i'm just
04:51:11.820 funding because it's for work and so send me send me money because i'm just funding because it's for
04:51:17.260 work i was just larping funny i wonder well i was i i'm not serious i'm just larping
04:51:23.500 okay let's say that they were the head of like a large racist organization uh-huh what would be
04:51:29.980 the problem with them saying oh we're just kidding though we're just kidding around though so so that
04:51:34.780 why why can't you send me the money right because it's for work why would that be a problem then got
04:51:39.420 you so are they why do you get the pass just because there happens to be uh you know penises and
04:51:44.220 vaginas involved i don't understand are they committing um crimes hate crimes no they're not committing
04:51:49.900 hate crimes then maybe politically it's not okay but in my viewpoint socially like i can't yeah so
04:51:57.100 in your viewpoint socially if they were the head of a racist organization yes because there are a lot
04:52:01.900 who say that about i wouldn't you know i wouldn't love it that's why race play is not even one of my
04:52:09.820 kinks i commonly practice it's not something i advertise i want to ask you something but however i did
04:52:15.820 have that one post really long thread saying specifically why if white men or japanese men
04:52:23.580 ask about this it's so much detail there it's actually strictly about colonization if they want
04:52:29.900 like a colonization race play then i will say yes but i want to ask you a question imagine how absurd this
04:52:36.140 is right yeah imagine how how absurd this is well who did like chinese people what if what if the head
04:52:41.100 of what if the head of like the kkk or something it was like oh they commit right hang on guys guys
04:52:49.020 you know what guys this is my job they commit crime my job to do to take money for this and so because
04:52:56.140 it's my job that it's okay right it's okay we're not committing any crimes they do activity they do they
04:53:03.340 commit hate can i yeah it's not the same it's not consensual in any way back up they're not
04:53:08.540 consensual if they're not committing any crimes what would your objection to it be it's about consent
04:53:14.300 it's about consent yes literally kink is about consent they're all consent no it's about the people
04:53:19.340 who are being like like viewing it yeah it's about because are you publishing it in like a public
04:53:24.940 newspaper just like you for example or like they have a specific audience it's a public audience for her
04:53:30.220 audience but wait i want to men who want these comments made about them so they get pleasure
04:53:35.420 from those comments being made about them for the example yeah that would be jack-shave
04:53:39.260 things that the head of a racist organization would be doing but listen where are the people
04:53:44.060 can i ask you about 0.1 listen andrew you talk a lot about isolated incidents where there's 0.1
04:53:51.420 people who might blah blah blah and then you say that's not even valid so why are you bringing up like
04:53:56.140 a 0.1 people population who might be interested in a hate organization consensually humiliating them
04:54:04.060 for the race yeah because why are you spending like five minutes on it i'm trying to answer your
04:54:08.940 question but you cut me off every time i try to answer it so i'm going to answer them i'm going to
04:54:13.340 ask so the answer to your question is i don't see what the objection here would be what is your actual
04:54:19.020 objection if the head of a racist organization i didn't say i would have an objection i said
04:54:23.660 let me finish let me finish okay just let you finish let me finish my point so what would the
04:54:30.540 actual objection be if it's the head of a racial organization all of the people who are involved
04:54:36.860 are consenting they's only publishing the things that those people want to hear because they're
04:54:41.500 consenting to it right and they're paying him a bunch of money he says hey it's just for work
04:54:45.340 what is the objection to that i am i wouldn't say that i would let's let's see so i don't even know
04:54:54.300 how to judge that situation i don't think that i'm you know god or whatever you can just say that
04:55:01.980 like maybe i have like a moral gray area and like i just can't answer that like i literally don't know
04:55:07.340 i can see can i can i just ask can i ask her a question single objection you can't give me a
04:55:13.340 single objection i'm trying to i'm trying to ask you a specific question what if i would be in that
04:55:19.260 i don't know whatever app it's calling i said uh i don't i don't want to work like i don't like black
04:55:25.260 men at all like i would talk just as you but regarding like black or other race that would be
04:55:31.580 considered that would consider race wait let me finish that would consider super racist but in this
04:55:36.460 country you can say about men white men anything you want it's like everything you say about white
04:55:42.140 men it's so irritating even to hear that should we just search up on twitter all the ones all the
04:55:47.420 tweets that are like just talking about black men and people loving it people enjoying the service
04:55:54.060 that's not true it's just a gray area commie if you want to have yeah i'm saying it's a great
04:55:57.900 ahead of it it's a gray area it's a gray area i just feel like her comments are like to sexually
04:56:03.740 please people yeah now a racist like thank you like the kkk they're they want to harm wait but hold
04:56:10.700 on hold on one thing yeah so but one thing but one thing but one thing so one thing though so you're
04:56:17.580 familiar that with the twitter algorithm yes so you might claim that you're sending this out to just
04:56:24.140 your followers who are privy to the fact that you do finndom and it's race play or whatever the
04:56:29.420 fuck yeah but let's say one of these tweets gets out into the greater twitter algorithm and it is put
04:56:36.140 in front of the eyeballs of people who don't know who the fuck you are what the fuck you do and they
04:56:41.500 see some random chick saying some racist man-hating shit let me tell you this is actually a common myth
04:56:48.140 because i worked in tech my what is it has this that this algorithm would show it to basically
04:56:54.140 let's say people you're actually are slurred you have no you're saying no twitter doesn't just
04:56:59.260 randomly it's not supposed to listen up okay let me say no you don't know because you're not going
04:57:04.700 to tell me about the twitter algorithm no my fiance literally like i don't give a
04:57:08.700 fuck you don't know what you're talking about you don't know people do you know people who write
04:57:12.380 the twitter algorithm and instagram algorithm like i do yes i do you do because i do too i
04:57:18.940 actually see it i actually see people working on it you think all the time because that's what my
04:57:24.060 friends do you think it's a slip it's not supposed to happen that's why we're shadow banned because they
04:57:30.300 only let you show it to people who are like liking stuff that you're following and also liking yeah
04:57:36.140 you're 100 wrong so the twitter algorithm just like tick tock you guys look you guys don't even
04:57:41.740 know how uneducated you look to like stem majors right now what the fuck are you talking if you're
04:57:47.820 if you're a coder if you're a programmer if you have professional programmers who work for us what
04:57:53.340 are you talking about i can promise you that my friends write better code wow because we can promise
04:57:58.220 you that you guys actually look very stupid in front of people who do machine learning engineering what
04:58:04.620 does that have to do a career i'm saying that they're not supposed to i don't understand tiny
04:58:10.460 tiny slip because it's not supposed to happen period like can you pull up a receipt where someone said
04:58:14.780 oh my gosh i'm just a vanilla person and we can test this out and hold on it ruined my life we can
04:58:20.380 test this out have any tweet that you have ever posted yes get engagement higher than
04:58:28.860 what you think would be commensurate to your following count so you've never had a tweet
04:58:34.220 end up in the algorithm ever unfortunately no this is the very sad part like i actually have
04:58:41.020 an assistant who helps me get other adult workers sorry to help retweet for retweet because
04:58:47.500 none of my viral tweets have blown up so please don't make that generalization like i might have
04:58:53.020 wished years ago the question was a hypothetical let's assume it did that's interesting so you think
04:59:00.300 nobody wait just to be clear you think not one individual stop you think not one individual has
04:59:06.620 laid eyes on one of your sexist or racist tweets without either being a follower or knowing who you
04:59:13.340 are or seeing that you've allegedly disclosed that this is all race play and it's all just for it's all
04:59:19.820 for laughs and all this stuff not one person i would say yes i have been this account has been shadow
04:59:27.020 banned since like the second week i made it i would actually say yes okay if it popped up on
04:59:31.820 anyone's algorithm without them consenting just dm me but would you i literally said that in the post
04:59:37.260 i said if you have a problem block me dm me comment whatever you know you're free to express your
04:59:43.260 feelings would you feel any sense of responsibility if someone say a vulnerable young person did see
04:59:49.660 a tweet like that would you maybe second guess maybe i shouldn't post that in the public domain
04:59:54.780 if they are under 18 100 100 100 because some people have done crazy things they had like they
05:00:01.180 were like a middle school teacher and they had that account for work and then they started doing
05:00:06.300 using the same thing to do findom like that's just not okay like hang on hang on before you go next
05:00:12.460 uh chilees you're you had an objection you said well but like a racial organization would be trying
05:00:18.460 to do harm what do you think a femdom is doing by draining men's bank accounts stomping on their
05:00:24.220 balls and do you think that that's not doing harm it's not doing harm because they signed up for it
05:00:29.260 like they want that would be the same logic with racial organization right are they paying 44
05:00:38.940 a month to be a part of it so it's a little bit the same like these people like joined this group
05:00:43.580 because they collectively hate this certain type of people and then these people joined this website
05:00:48.380 because they want to see this type of her clients want want people who hate men to abuse them
05:00:56.060 so you think i have the power of the whole organization hang on her clients want women
05:01:01.100 who hate men to abuse them somehow that okay but when we get to racial organization who uh you know
05:01:09.020 wants to drum up hate towards this i i don't even understand how you could say that that's not
05:01:14.300 how am i drumming up hate but honestly none of it's okay because it's like you're feeding right
05:01:18.860 those freaky fantasies like that they shouldn't have you know so it's like okay she decided to
05:01:24.540 do that that's on her that's her moral compass you know that's an opinion and i agree yeah so it's
05:01:29.420 like i did decide after years of debating to do let's um let's move the uh can we see the next one
05:01:34.940 there's just what three more right austin okay can you read it i love how all the hottest asian
05:01:39.740 doms have hot asian boyfriends why can i say these things why let's say white men need to white beta
05:01:49.420 males need to know what's up they can say it okay white worms need to know what's up they can be
05:01:54.700 they can only be our cucks subs and objects of abuse with their inferior ass pink dicks asian supremacy
05:02:01.340 era i mean how is this just not sexist and racist on its face wait it's okay if the victim
05:02:10.700 wants racism from the femdom that's fine but if the victim wants racism from a hate group that's not
05:02:16.460 okay it's like look at the detail like literally makes no sense that makes no sense no sense did the
05:02:23.180 hate group say like you know you can get off to this like i know you like to get off to this
05:02:26.860 well i don't understand why having a why having penis and vagina involved somehow makes it less of a
05:02:33.260 hate that's not what i said that thing applied except now you're adding sex to it too so you're
05:02:38.700 like okay donated two hundred dollars this inferior asian woman clearly lacks any sense of accountability
05:02:46.300 hello l stream labs play yo big sass thank you man appreciate it yeah so it's like it's like this i
05:02:52.060 actually don't really you're saying you're saying oh okay like the hate group would be fine as long
05:02:56.860 as they're they're having sex too like what do you wait what you would be pet you're peddling the
05:03:02.620 same thing you're peddling okay let me racism hang on you're peddling racism to people who want the
05:03:07.340 racism it's the same thing yeah i just don't okay i don't really get hold on really quick i also just
05:03:13.580 don't get you came in here at the beginning like super woke liberal like sjw oh is that a bit homophobic
05:03:20.700 you literally are calling white people worms like you're so fucking racist like and you wanted to
05:03:27.180 come in here on your woke fucking like oh how dare these misogynists be oh the homophobe the
05:03:36.460 homophobes and transphobes this is but you're fucking on your twitter on your yeah cool like whatever
05:03:42.780 whatever accusation yeah i've got a podcast it's for work too yeah i want to rebuttal what andrew said
05:03:47.500 so if i'm on my podcast for work and i'm like being racist or sexist it's okay right yeah it's
05:03:53.340 fine it's fine right it's for what you do with misogyny though like and people subscribe yeah
05:03:59.260 and they want you to keep here define misogyny go ahead dislike of women as a whole i'm guessing
05:04:07.900 that's the definition i mean an attempt was made an attempt was like or hatred dislike okay so what
05:04:14.060 what evidence do you have of that go ahead no i actually don't agree with that but i've seen the
05:04:19.340 comments and i do see how it could be interpreted as misogynist for example you will pick out like
05:04:24.140 one girl and then people will think that you're talking about all women like i do i do see that but
05:04:29.500 i also see that you guys get tips you guys get engagement you guys have supporters who really like
05:04:35.820 certain sentences that are said usually the comments you know don't be about like the viral parts
05:04:41.180 white people worms and you have an asian supremacy thing and you think men are terrible you're why
05:04:47.180 not there's asian hate in us and i'm not saying like hey white people should beat up asian people
05:04:52.700 more like when i say wait sorry who's beating up the asian people are you talking about san francisco
05:04:59.260 what are you talking about new york san francisco la yes who you're canada people do yes mostly white
05:05:06.460 people no mostly like can you like seriously 99 percent nonsense and then some in new york are black
05:05:15.500 people the ignorance oh my god i think if you're asian and you're subscribed you should subscribe today
05:05:24.300 how about the stats would you like the stats look at the stats do you know what model minority means
05:05:29.980 like does that mean anything to you you're like wait i don't want to get people are like oppressed
05:05:34.300 and i'm saying i should be able to have this kind of expression where it's just going against look
05:05:42.380 i do stuff to like for work to be controversial as well right okay all right for example this podcast
05:05:50.060 i'd rather not pull up the stats just to keep things you know i want to i want to tell you something
05:05:55.100 when i when i talked before and said about the commercial it was beautiful people immediately have said
05:05:59.740 you said black people and i never mentioned black i when i heard what you guys read about what you
05:06:06.140 wrote yeah and i'm not originally american it literally makes me a bad feeling like god it's
05:06:11.980 really really don't know about fin dom kink no but i want to tell you something the the most hypocrisy
05:06:17.420 here for majority of feminists like you and like uh yes you are this is your mentality this is how you
05:06:24.540 speak the most hypocritical thing is to put white men down and treat white men like the
05:06:29.500 biggest devil you don't you you don't put the right thing on point you said people are racist to
05:06:34.700 asians people are like racist to other this is completely bullshit you're a hypocrite you you
05:06:40.460 don't consistent with your point of view i'm sorry i'm not trying to hurt you but you're not
05:06:44.940 i don't you present yourself like you're going with billionaires and millionaires but you never
05:06:48.540 mentioned it's from sex work and and i did in the beginning in the beginning and it's bullshit because
05:06:53.820 anybody even me in my age i can come and be sexual and open the whatever account and i can make a lot
05:06:59.260 of money from sex but the whole point if you're intelligent and you know like what you said to
05:07:02.860 andrew about computers and and coding and all that it just shows how stupid you have wait but it sounds
05:07:09.820 that you're really stupid because if you have that ability to be so smart with computers and tech
05:07:14.060 and you're going to this porn and doing these degrading things and writing all this sorry
05:07:18.460 shit on on whatever it is it just showed that you're stupid i'm just gonna say you're playing
05:07:23.900 checkers donated two hundred dollars almost all violent crime against asians is from i almost said
05:07:30.540 blacks this board is so delusional 60 13 if you know you know okay okay good talk good talk let's do
05:07:39.580 the last two things that one thing like i said it's not that serious it's for work it's not hypocrisy but
05:07:45.420 that's what i'm saying you traded your values for money if you're doing something for my wait wait
05:07:50.060 like i said why do you think it's just so cheap do you know how much i make from tech startups
05:07:53.900 wasn't hitler just doing it for you just yeah but let me just you just yes what crime did i commit
05:08:00.220 it's a good example did i commit brian listen it's not a crime you come you saying i'm doing tech and
05:08:05.580 you told to andrew you told to andrew all my friends are doing wait let me finish my point please
05:08:11.740 you told andrew earlier you told andrew earlier you don't know my friends i don't think any of
05:08:16.860 this this is literally for can i please finish my point work you told andrew before you don't know
05:08:22.220 the people i know the code they coding they doing computers they doing this but wait you you speak so
05:08:27.340 much rubbish i you even think before you speak let me finish and then you traded your values for money
05:08:33.500 just because it's it's work and sex work you justified this shit no it's not justified yes no i
05:08:40.380 literally did you not hear the god i heard anything in 2021 when i realized it was sex work i took a
05:08:46.940 hiatus even though you are a sex worker it doesn't matter if you see you then i made a conscious
05:08:52.620 decision you and you not put let me finish let me finish let me finish please you keep interrupting
05:08:57.500 me you know what disturbed me about you personally i'll say this to you without i mean i don't mind if
05:09:01.660 you get offended i actually i tell you what disturbed me you claim to be this intelligent high-end high-class
05:09:07.900 woman high-value woman when and an intelligent they know about computer and coding and in the
05:09:13.180 end of the day don't interrupt me and in the end of the day you just another sorry to say that another
05:09:19.980 cheap ho that sell tweets and bullshit over social media and claim to be higher than anybody else
05:09:26.140 sorry but you are more touched on tiktok this woman and this woman this woman here that that was
05:09:33.180 saying in front of everybody that she did only fans and sex in front of porn whatever
05:09:37.900 she sits and i respect her way more than you because at least she was honest and spoke straight
05:09:43.500 to the camera without manipulating maneuvering bullshitting you sitting here trying to maneuver
05:09:48.780 everybody make them feel like you're better than them when you are the lowest and the lowest in the
05:09:52.860 class no that's your opinion look i don't judge others you know whatever we call about christian
05:09:58.940 values or whatever i'm not christian i'm jewish first of all you can judge me i don't care i know
05:10:04.300 who i am you can judge me first of all i have jewish values i have jewish values okay i have jewish values
05:10:10.220 this is the original so oh for some reason want to portray yourself in a different way i think it
05:10:16.140 shows that you are a good person you have good values and you value the right things like my other
05:10:20.540 accounts that i can and the fact that you are you contradicting yourself left and right you know
05:10:27.580 what maybe people are not so black and white they're not so one-dimensional maybe the people
05:10:32.300 you lie and then you come maybe most people in the world you say one thing and then you jump to another
05:10:36.220 you say one thing and then she at least straight forward saying in front of everybody i did porn no i
05:10:41.900 can speak louder i did porn my boyfriend helped me to realize what i am i grew up i grew out of it
05:10:47.500 i know it's not the right thing but you come in here so prejudiced lying completely in front of
05:10:53.260 the camera trying to manipulate smarter people he's an expert but he does otherwise he wouldn't
05:10:58.060 be as so successful with the podcast league schools listen to me otherwise you would not be so successful
05:11:03.660 in what you do with the podcast and you're sitting here claiming to be better than him and better
05:11:07.900 than andrew and better than all the girls here when you actually the lowest did you i don't think
05:11:15.020 you claimed that i did yes she did i did not just read no she didn't she said to andrew people gonna
05:11:20.860 laugh at you oh go ahead no she didn't say i see value i see value in you having separate accounts and
05:11:29.580 i see you make yourself look stupid wait wait okay let's just let's just get through the tweets and
05:11:34.860 yeah okay i thought there were two more oh we already did it okay okay even worse they think
05:11:43.420 women want to sleep with them can you scroll up i think i think it's just double check it i think
05:11:47.740 it's safe though i think it's safe boys that does sound like something i would tweet on this account oh
05:11:54.700 yeah yeah whatever all right all right that was uh would a true misinterest hire males after many
05:12:06.060 female employees have proved them unreliable and me wanting to mitigate risk that's sometimes one
05:12:13.020 thing leads to another it's not hypocrisy it's learning and making different decisions based off of
05:12:19.260 my previous experiences but you represent and making different it's like i will represent myself
05:12:23.500 i've talked about personal i've talked about this business i've talked about that but it's not
05:12:26.620 business for me it's not business it doesn't justify it even if it's business it doesn't justify
05:12:32.460 if if i look my morals if a prostitute would slip with a 16 year old she said it's okay just business
05:12:38.540 i don't care if he's 16 he paid me money you don't justify this because of money money it's not higher
05:12:43.820 hierarchy more than values money your values are here under 18 people like that's just a hard no
05:12:50.460 but i already acknowledged this is a moral gray area bottom line bottom line am i not allowed as a
05:12:55.340 human to have gray areas in my morality bottom line sweetie you sell yourself to the devil you sell your
05:13:03.660 morals to the devil and that's it hope someone clips this oh whoops didn't mean to pray okay all right
05:13:12.540 uh okay let me get through all the show notes here and then we'll hopefully try to get into a
05:13:18.060 row session then wrap okay oh yeah good idea good idea austin all right guys go to twitch.tv slash
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05:13:49.900 slash whatever drop us a follow drop us a follow drop us a join i guess on discord we post bts we post
05:13:56.940 all kinds of cool stuff so be sure to check that one out thank you guys appreciate it
05:14:00.380 it and then let us see what else do we have to oh okay here we go why don't we do this uh
05:14:07.740 we have oh let's do really quick i'm just i'm super curious uh i don't really want to
05:14:12.300 debate it but we'll get the answers uh you randomly spawn in the forest in front of you also spawns two
05:14:20.300 buttons one button will randomly spawn a man the other button will randomly spawn a bear and you're
05:14:27.420 going to come across either the man or the bear do you pick the man or do you pick the bear the man
05:14:33.020 okay the man the man the man the man the man what was the question man or bear man of course okay
05:14:44.220 all right easy well done well done uh let us see here why did i write down color correction
05:14:51.100 why the fuck would i write okay oh should we hmm we should have done this with submission let's get
05:14:56.300 through the notes uh sherry to finish up your shit commie probably
05:15:03.980 commie yeah i don't know why i keep calling you that that's really weird um so uh you dated multiple
05:15:10.460 sons of ceos of companies traded on nasdaq yes it's crazy multiple dated multiple sons of ceos of
05:15:18.940 companies you guys had to bring the craziest i actually thought hard about the craziest you can read
05:15:24.380 all of them yeah one of which was my ex who was forced into an arranged marriage with a lesbian and
05:15:30.460 he didn't even know while we were together a toxic crypto founder who ruined your life
05:15:37.100 a previous yakuza member so yeah a porn star who retired his career to be with me
05:15:43.980 yes so crazy and i think he might now be like dead according to the prison why did you why did you
05:15:52.300 retire to be with you like aren't you a sex worker what no no at this time i was 18. oh so you were
05:15:59.420 like oh like i didn't even know about like i honestly just knew that he did porn because my friends like
05:16:07.020 so we actually met on dating app and then my friends were like oh my god like this guy's a
05:16:12.460 porn star and i'm like well he didn't mention it after we met but i didn't think too much of it and
05:16:17.900 then me being 18 and young naive i just kind of overlooked the importance and the weight on that
05:16:24.780 but he did say if that's gonna like hold me back from getting to a relationship with him he will stop and
05:16:32.220 then he did one last shoe and then stopped and i okay i think that actually is from like his agencies
05:16:37.820 and stuff i like the companies i think he's um you briefly dated a self-made billionaire in his 30s
05:16:43.980 who lied twice about his age to you yeah it was so crazy like i gave him so many opportunities
05:16:50.220 i thought you didn't have many body cons i i don't i never stopped with that guy like eight you're a
05:16:56.140 fucking liar you're a fucking liar you know how earlier we had that um message about people not
05:17:02.060 sleeping on the first day it might be hard to imagine but i don't sleep on the first day usually
05:17:06.940 it's like the second three no like three to five three to five and not many guys get the second date
05:17:13.180 okay that billionaire like i went on three days didn't sleep with him didn't didn't hit no like he was
05:17:18.860 honestly really annoying and he lied about his age twice like that was just a deal breaker for me
05:17:23.100 twice is that is that is that bad to lie about age twice it was actually pretty like okay so at
05:17:30.460 first he put 26 you've never met him in person never about my age anything never about something
05:17:35.740 like so like menial it doesn't matter maybe you have money someone saying hey like you know what's
05:17:41.900 your name what's your age blah blah blah you know you would probably just respond like a normal person
05:17:46.940 but he put 26 that i met up with him and i was like oh you know how like i was trying to give
05:17:52.780 him benefit of the doubt i was like oh like you know um what did you say your age is again and then
05:17:58.140 he said 31 and then he actually like then by the third day we started talking about work that's when
05:18:05.420 i realized like basically what he did the company he sold and all that stuff and then so i went back
05:18:11.180 and i googled and i realized he's 38 i brought it up to him he's like oh my god who the hell yes 38
05:18:18.300 yeah so the age gap was actually huge at that point and he lied twice and oh my god yeah omg okay
05:18:26.460 a few rappers including one who also lied about his age to you yeah what's up with these guys lying
05:18:30.860 about their age whatever uh you dated a few rappers and you like you can go date him did he he's in la
05:18:36.540 hey did he huh did he no oh my gosh no i can go date him no no okay uh you had some disagreements
05:18:47.020 you had a couple disagreements we'll get into those you said you disagree you i mean all you
05:18:50.860 wrote was toxic masculinity oh because i thought it was like topics and i thought you guys would take
05:18:56.220 that into the notes and then ask some questions about it oh yeah i mean so like that's my bad do
05:19:00.540 you think the podcast is toxic no no i actually thought it would be interesting for people to talk
05:19:05.100 about oh okay so you're in favor or against toxic masculinity and what is what i actually was
05:19:11.660 thinking like if we could just go around and define it like that would be an interesting exercise and
05:19:16.460 then see depending on the exercises like you know debate like are you for or against i know i think i
05:19:21.740 know i know what the definition of it is so toxic masculinity is when you say no to a woman
05:19:28.460 no that's not what it is that's what that's how y'all in america is right that's what it is
05:19:34.060 no that's not your joke you're totally right now in america to be a feminist it's to hate men that's
05:19:39.900 the the deal okay but i was like the reason why i put that was because i was thinking it'd be
05:19:45.020 interesting to hear everyone's thoughts but like we want to hear your thoughts that's why we're asking
05:19:48.780 okay yeah i think so what is toxic masculinity i think toxic masculinity is when someone is a
05:19:57.180 misogynist and brings that to like all aspects of their life didn't you know what misogynist mean
05:20:01.820 yeah i literally said hate and dislike women as a whole like as if they're just one big group with
05:20:08.540 unified blanket okay commonalities what would they what would an example of toxic masculinity be
05:20:14.300 oh my god i guess it kind of teeters into sexism but which would be okay can you give me an example
05:20:25.100 of toxic masculinity okay i'm gonna try my best okay so if a guy were to try to court a girl who
05:20:36.300 he knows is independent has her own life that kind of stuff going on and then later in the relationship
05:20:43.420 after they've been committed then he gaslights her into saying this is bad what you're doing
05:20:49.100 is wrong who you were was wrong i think that would be an example of toxic masculinity that's
05:20:55.020 that's what happened to me so you mean exactly what happened to the chick next to you it was a good
05:20:59.100 thing for me oh okay god i mean like literally the exact same thing that happened to the chick next
05:21:03.900 to you yeah and also you know what toxic but i guess like i mean you know what toxic was very
05:21:10.300 he was physically abusive and ended up in hospital that's why i said but you know what you know what
05:21:16.140 created it you know what toxic toxic is women like you the men i feel so bad for the men if that's what
05:21:22.300 they have to choose from it doesn't matter your personality from being a baby until today by saying
05:21:27.580 all the things that you're saying and how you operate and how you think business out of sex and men
05:21:33.660 real men have to deal with that i feel bad for them they're either stupid or oblivious to who you are
05:21:38.780 okay well somehow these men care to talk to me and propose to me more than like in your experience
05:21:43.740 you don't know you don't know how many men propose to me i think we just live different lives and you
05:21:50.380 know people have different experiences period i'm not choosing men over i'm not choosing men just
05:21:54.380 because they have money or status i never yeah it's just it's just weird to me that somebody would
05:22:00.380 want to date something like this all right it's weird did you come on here to gain perspective or to
05:22:05.420 no oh okay to be close-minded okay no all right i'm gonna try to get through all your notes here
05:22:09.660 as quick as possible at this point really quick just adult content creation stigma so yeah there's
05:22:16.620 a stigma we actually kind of talked about it yeah we kind of did with the especially the corn industry
05:22:22.060 yeah okay um skip that uh the viewpoint that a decent wife has to be a certain way so uh what way
05:22:28.620 do you think that that is we actually talked about that too with the the virgin the high body count
05:22:33.740 that's exactly what i was thinking but so what way do you think that it that is
05:22:41.100 well to reiterate i think it's not so black and white like with the virgin thing that we talked about
05:22:46.860 if someone is you know good at being the mom um or has the potential to be the mom
05:22:54.140 like i don't think it's so black and white on specific traits like virgin or not sure we talked about
05:22:58.780 it yeah we talked about it uh you said qualifying to follow a religion depending on the work you do
05:23:03.980 what what did you mean by that oh i was like wondering um how you guys feel about or what are
05:23:10.300 your guys's perspective on people who follow religion and do adult work because i've seen like a few um
05:23:19.260 doesn't go together clips and it's incompatible it doesn't go together it's people that think that
05:23:24.620 they're they're religious but they're not okay i didn't finish though like do you think because
05:23:28.140 we're all sinners like yes there are different types of sins however do you think someone could
05:23:33.180 really like truly follow a faithful religion and feel very like redeemed feel like it's purposeful and
05:23:40.300 that they can like you know jesus can forgive them for the sins like just one religion as an example
05:23:45.340 and like sure jesus can forgive you for your sins but do you think this person can be happy
05:23:49.740 but yeah but but hang on let's let's untangle a couple things so yeah first of all can you follow
05:23:56.300 a religion and be a sex worker yeah i'm sure i'm sure you could follow satanism and all sorts of
05:24:01.420 different religions and be a sex worker i think that you're specifically talking about you know
05:24:06.540 possibly the abrahamic religion yeah i was like this right so uh the answer there would be no it'd be
05:24:12.300 incompatible because it would be against christian ethics so this would it would not only violate the
05:24:17.900 ten commandments but it would also violate the teachings of jesus christ and it would violate
05:24:22.780 the teachings of jesus christ apostles and all church doctrines so no it's not only is it incompatible
05:24:29.420 but um it's it's highly sinful so if you're asking can you be forgiven for those things well yeah
05:24:35.340 absolutely only if you follow only more she'd be forgiven only if she follows doing the same things
05:24:42.540 that jesus yeah no no no no i my question my question like andrew was getting there my question
05:24:48.380 is if this person is following this religion repenting but they get no way that they're sitting
05:24:53.180 no like like do you think this person can truly be happy because religion is like part of a person's
05:24:58.300 values but they do gang bangs on the weekends for money and then yeah and then repent because like i
05:25:03.420 just i've seen some cases i'm just super curious about andrew's thoughts because those women are not here
05:25:09.100 physically but then they get gang banged yeah so yeah some of the yeah some of the people yes that
05:25:13.660 i'm thinking of like no names but i've tangled with many such such women right um and the answer is is uh
05:25:21.580 no i don't think that if on the weekends you're going off and uh doing you know camera gang bangs and
05:25:28.460 sucking 20 dicks and then you just go and confess it the next day that you're very serious about your
05:25:34.060 the idea of repentance and i can give you a story very briefly you know very i'll just very briefly
05:25:39.260 get into it saint mary of damascus um she was a a lifelong prostitute and she segregated herself
05:25:46.540 off from the world and became a saint because she spent the rest of her life in repentance for the
05:25:51.740 things that she had done so uh yes it's very possible for the for women to be reformed but they always
05:25:58.060 forget about the word repentance and what that means instead they decide that they're going to go into
05:26:02.540 some kind of bizarre ministry and tell everybody that feminism and christianity is the same thing
05:26:07.740 and so not the same no uh no i don't think you can practice at the same time that you're doing it
05:26:14.300 there could be some bizarre hypothetical cases you could come up with like she just did that
05:26:18.620 last weekend before she had the revelation and she fully repented uh after that yeah i think that
05:26:24.540 that's possible but it's super unlikely right yeah yeah yeah definitely because those women are not here
05:26:30.780 and obviously no names but i was really curious oh yeah sorry egypt not damascus my bad i got
05:26:35.180 correct that's an l for me uh but anyway yeah so anyway uh that's one case that you can look at
05:26:43.260 you also said that you wanted to talk about or an interest in discussing women's rights and misogyny
05:26:51.580 again so we actually did go through the misogyny i didn't put misogyny in the previous did we talk
05:26:57.340 about messages maybe a little bit i don't know like the definition like is it existing and like
05:27:02.700 da da da in society yeah uh women's rights you wanted to discuss women's rights we can
05:27:07.820 hit on that quickly i don't like i don't know if that's too well just give us a quick yeah okay
05:27:15.100 okay boom i actually do have like one thing that i think could be debated on like in first world
05:27:19.660 countries um you know what's defined by a first world country is not just like the socioeconomic
05:27:24.780 power or political power but also the ideology so um how does how do you guys feel about let's
05:27:30.700 just give an example south korea where there's very few women's rights and then you know there are like
05:27:36.860 a lot of feminists protesting that and people consider a first world country like can a first
05:27:42.780 world country really be a first world country if the thinking is very anti-female basically like
05:27:51.260 misogynist not giving them rights the feminist movement is exceptionally strong in south korea
05:27:57.340 yeah but i'm not i don't think myself or andrew know enough about uh the women's rights movement
05:28:05.580 or feminism in south korea i mean i don't want to speak for you andrew but it's a very niche can i
05:28:11.580 yeah no i i understand the movement fairly well um just like i understand the herbivore movement in japan
05:28:17.100 very well um and you you said you seem to be fairly familiar with japanese history um is that correct
05:28:25.740 not super no i'm no i wouldn't say i'm a historian on japanese no i've only no i've only yeah we
05:28:33.740 can i say something on feminism regarding what you said yeah yeah like women's rights be me coming from
05:28:42.140 a country from a area region in the world that i've seen around me so many women that are suppressed
05:28:48.860 not specifically in israel but for example the muslims in israel and the christian arabs in israel
05:28:54.620 very suppressed by their families and their husband a lot of them and they come and seek
05:28:59.420 asylum or help from the radical feminist in for example in tel aviv right so for women in america to
05:29:06.860 sit and say that they've been suppressed in this country it's ridiculous because where i come from
05:29:12.300 i've seen women get shot and killed if they just looked at another man looked not not say not talk
05:29:18.780 not have sex just looked at another man and here women got all the privilege they get in the world
05:29:24.940 right women here have overly privilege because women here are louder for the wrong things
05:29:30.860 they use a lot of the time and they use situation as i said a hundred times they have this prostitute
05:29:37.580 mentality that they entitled to think they can get what they want and then when they talk to men just
05:29:42.460 like you said about white men they always all men are idiots men are bad men are users the only
05:29:48.140 men i've seen in this country that that treating women really really bad it's men that tired from women
05:29:54.540 with this mentality women here they don't like to cook of course i'm generalizing and of course it's
05:29:59.740 different women but a lot of women here they don't like to cook they don't like to nurture their
05:30:03.660 men they're not patient when the man loses his money and need attention they won't take their money
05:30:09.980 and help their men here it's all about whatever you have you can give me and if you don't have it
05:30:14.380 anymore i divorce you and i'll marry someone they have it everything it's transactional with money
05:30:19.660 woman and the good women that you have it wait a second and the good woman that you see in this country
05:30:24.300 they don't get enough attention because all this radical feminism dedoctrinating the young youth
05:30:30.140 and the and the 30 year old and the 40 year old and the 50 year old they have this entitled mentality
05:30:35.260 so for saying that women don't have enough rights here it's the most ridiculous stupid thing i don't
05:30:40.300 know wait okay so i do have to move it off of south korea do you have anything that's more pertinent to
05:30:45.420 uh like western countries or the united states no i actually just was curious what people thought
05:30:50.700 about like women's rights in certain countries well it's damaged them beyond all all uh repair
05:30:58.380 because like japan and south korea and all these different um southeast asian nations have become
05:31:03.900 american ports and so we have westernized them and what's happened as a result of that is um they
05:31:10.460 abandoned traditionalism and their birth rates have gone so far below reproduction that they're going to
05:31:15.260 go extinct uh south korea for instance is below one the replacement levels before below one per woman
05:31:23.340 which is uh that's that's basically an extinction level event i don't even know how you can recover
05:31:29.740 from that japan is almost as low as that and yes the uh this is the western values especially of feminism
05:31:37.500 which has destroyed the traditional makeup of the family unit inside of those nations and andrew i want
05:31:42.940 to say something regarding to what you just said you don't know how much right you are like in israel
05:31:47.580 for example if you divorce the woman because it's radical feminism right and you don't pay let's say
05:31:53.100 child support they will go to your bank account you know how many men every year make suicide in israel
05:31:57.980 because this radical uh uh feminism and new laws they give to men if they don't pay child support as
05:32:04.780 they accord like if the woman wants 4 000 shekels and the man doesn't pay it she can go to his
05:32:09.740 a bank account with the government and take that money so this americanized no what i'm trying to
05:32:14.620 say americanized mentality affected like he said in other people that it's unrepairable well now hang
05:32:20.620 on i wouldn't say in israel that we uh outsource that to israel i'll tell you so you're wrong israel
05:32:27.660 outsourced plenty of its own stuff to not with feminism israel's israel's um right now their birth rate
05:32:35.260 though is stabilized because they have a massive in vitro fertilization program and that in vitro
05:32:40.780 fertilization program has worked fairly successfully because it'll allow women to go 20 25 35 times as
05:32:48.220 many times it takes because they have to have numbers high enough to defend the nation from all
05:32:53.180 the enemies they're surrounded by so they patriotically uh push for a uh basically a pregnancy program for
05:33:00.620 women but that's not what that's not but that's not what i'm talking about you're right about that
05:33:05.100 but it's not what i'm talking about what i'm talking about that the radical feminism got affected so
05:33:09.580 bad in israel that even men before in israel no man would let a woman pay and women don't act
05:33:14.940 out like the women act out here but if you go to tel aviv versus another city like tiberias
05:33:20.380 you see the complete difference between the attitude in a minute women in tel aviv and the women in the
05:33:24.780 north of the country completely because they get influenced from america and american tv shows and
05:33:30.380 american media and i know that is a fact israel has always been a highly progressive nation when
05:33:35.980 it came to domestic policy it's always been highly progressive yeah america is not outsourcing
05:33:42.780 progressivism to israel any more than israel's outsourcing progressivism they have all sorts of
05:33:48.620 philosophers which um which come up with the same types of policies that ours come up with no i know
05:33:54.380 i mean that's one of the that's one of the few nations i would actually say uh that the um that
05:33:59.260 is a part of the western apparatus which exports feminism i would not say that it is a nation which
05:34:05.500 had a feminism exported to it no no what i mean i am i'm very sorry i do have to move things on i'm
05:34:11.420 very sorry but going uh back to you you in your pre-show notes here you said uh dating until you find your
05:34:17.980 person should you date multiple people at one time or many until you find that person so what's your
05:34:24.940 do you want to elaborate what's your position on that can you read it to me one more time you said
05:34:30.460 dating until you find your person should you date multiple people at one time or many until you find
05:34:36.540 that person so my position is honestly i feel like dating not sleeping with every guy but i feel like
05:34:45.580 you should date as many people as you would like and then once you kind of like you have this
05:34:52.060 box full of all these guys and you kind of just pick your best one or if none of them is good enough
05:34:56.700 then you just keep dating until you find like that perfect person for yourself it doesn't mean sleeping
05:35:01.180 with them though emphasis on that okay all right um i personally think that uh women should be single
05:35:12.620 for like at least three years before they date a new man sorry that was before they date a new
05:35:19.020 man after the last relationship after they got out of a relationship okay no sorry okay that was my
05:35:24.300 troll answer i'll just give you okay like my position if i go on a if i go on the first date with girl
05:35:29.660 and she wants a second date it has to be a wrap with the other dudes if there's other guys that
05:35:34.620 well if she's sleeping with another dude i've lost interest of course uh 100 a lot of women move that way
05:35:40.460 but if she's not doing that but she's dating like dating sleep well i mean she's probably well okay
05:35:48.140 if she's going on dates with other men and she wants a second date with me i'm i'm not interested
05:35:55.420 i feel like that's conversations that you kind of like just don't even have in the beginning like
05:35:59.740 when you first are dating somebody like you don't know my conversations what do you mean yeah like
05:36:04.060 sometimes that's just not something people do yeah like i'll ask if you're single like are you single
05:36:09.020 or not you know and if you're like okay i'm single then i'm not going to ask you like are you
05:36:12.300 dating another woman why not wait this girl over here said she's single and she's been hooking up
05:36:17.740 with a dude exclusively for three months and that's crazy no oh you're not specified okay you you well
05:36:24.300 you said no oh so wait okay then allow me to allow me to inquire with him so you're not sleeping with
05:36:31.420 him no you've been dating this guy for three months yes are you because i actually want it to be a
05:36:35.980 relationship oh wait i'm dating seriously is he sleeping with anyone else as far as i know no wait
05:36:45.660 hold on so you said you're waiting because you want it to be a serious relationship i want i'm
05:36:50.540 we both have made up the conclusion that we want to be with each other so that we treat it as if it's
05:36:58.940 us a relationship but you don't have the title correct i don't see i don't like that like i would
05:37:06.940 not no i agree with you i mean that's something that i want that's why i said i'm like i have a limit
05:37:13.500 like once it's you know a couple months like that's what i mean i'm like that's the conversation
05:37:18.620 can you speak a little closer to the mic yeah i said that's like a conversation it's like what
05:37:23.020 are you waiting for kind of thing so i mean i've pushed does he has he does he want to have sex
05:37:31.580 i mean it's a conversation that's been had like i said i would only be willing to like be intimate
05:37:37.180 with somebody until it turns into a serious like into a relationship with the title once
05:37:42.060 how often do you hang out with him well we're long distance right now since i moved
05:37:46.780 but you guys wait so it's not um frequent at all how long distance same state it's uh two two hours
05:37:56.620 okay two hours how often do you see him i see him right now it's only been like once a month
05:38:02.940 once a month okay but you were in person with him it wasn't long distance no it wasn't this is new
05:38:10.220 the the dynamic changes i have a question you said it's been three months you want something
05:38:14.460 serious with him so you've opted to wait to have sex uh has this been your standard for previous
05:38:21.500 sexual partners yes
05:38:25.420 really yes yes and if that's hard to believe then you don't have to believe me but i'm telling you
05:38:32.300 that's how it's been
05:38:35.980 has he has it been shorter than three months for any guy that you've hooked up with
05:38:40.860 have you previously i've maintained the same standards for okay i suppose that's fair um
05:38:55.340 but okay so got a little sidetracked there going back to you um i'm sorry trying to remember what you
05:39:03.660 were uh saying so basically i just believe that you can date multiple people until you commit
05:39:10.540 yourself to a person i feel like it's really none of the other person's business if you are dating
05:39:16.140 other people like i feel like you shouldn't tell them like hey i'm going on this date tomorrow like
05:39:21.900 it's kind of none of their concern until we say hey i don't want you seeing nobody else and you don't
05:39:26.060 want me seeing nobody else but i don't feel like it's okay in your situation to bring that up to sit
05:39:31.100 there and say that you want me exclusive to you but you don't want to give me a title like there's
05:39:36.300 no way in hell i'm going to be okay with that and yeah i'll give them the benefit of doubt whereas
05:39:40.860 like maybe that person just got out of relationships that are kind of scared to jump into something but
05:39:45.100 then you also got to set your boundaries like how long am i willing to take this type of behavior
05:39:49.580 because you can also be the woman that's waiting to get married and you've been dating this guy for
05:39:54.060 10 years and he never puts a ring on your finger well yeah by the way tts is 69 if anybody wants to get a
05:39:59.580 tts and 69 tts go ahead i was saying yeah that's absolutely right like i agree with you because
05:40:06.460 like there's only so much time that you have to like spare like i think my situation is different
05:40:11.180 like than somebody who's like maybe 25 right um i'm 22 so i have i have time to spare like i'm not
05:40:17.740 rushing into it by any means like i don't also want to be in a relationship until i'm certain but as of
05:40:24.780 now i feel like i'm leaning towards like hey i'm ready to be in a relationship
05:40:33.340 i'm curious so do anybody else agree that you should only date one person at a time
05:40:37.580 if you're not committed of course yeah yeah me 100 you know how i said like a lot of times guys don't
05:40:45.020 get a second day donate your voice is like nails on a chalkboard your stories suck your personality
05:40:54.860 sucks your mind sucks you are not interested sorry are the ladies who couldn't speak to her need for
05:41:03.100 attention uh gerald thank you for that appreciate it um i am gonna have to move it on getting to raya
05:41:11.020 all right you said you've got a lot of crazy stories there's a prison pen pal who turned into
05:41:20.460 a relationship high school ex well let's start with the prison pen pal so and you've had a couple
05:41:27.980 prison pen pal or is it just one oh i i did write to five of them before it got back to me
05:41:32.220 you wrote to five prisoners stop it you're the you're the girl who writes to people i used to
05:41:40.700 what like murderers no no i stuck to non-violent crimes what's your criteria selective of over the
05:41:48.220 how did you get to them i'm curious i also got a p.o box but how can you get to them how do you how
05:41:53.580 do you even start to do that i'm curious you write letters is there like a website yeah it's called
05:41:58.140 write a prisoner really it's called what write a prisoner write write a prisoner what were the like
05:42:03.260 would you can you sort by what kind of crime they committed i don't believe so but you said you would
05:42:07.900 pick non-violent crimes yeah so like selling drugs to like uh kindergartners you would date you would
05:42:15.020 like pen pal that guy well i still have morals oh well i mean it's non-violent but okay um so were
05:42:21.420 any of them innocent did any of them tell you that they were innocent no are you dead desperate for love
05:42:28.540 no i did not write to them for love so for what uh because i was curious to hear people's life
05:42:34.140 stories okay i mean there's like netflix shows about like prison and stuff like you could have just
05:42:39.180 watched 20 last 28 hours it's okay it's okay my last question on this before brian starts in
05:42:46.140 create just got to know did they constantly ask for pictures no they had to have asked for pictures
05:42:51.900 right they did yeah but not constant i i think it might be contraband like to have like nude i don't
05:42:59.500 know yeah it has computer i'm not i'm not even saying they do oh just like pictures of her
05:43:05.100 okay yeah just like a little pinup or something yeah yeah just uh okay do you find like criminals
05:43:14.300 sexy no no as again i will say i was not writing for love okay but i mean you she did research you
05:43:21.900 you wrote to five four of them responded one was a woman three were guys and like did it how many of
05:43:31.100 them did it start going into a like flirtation with um so i stopped writing to two of the guys
05:43:40.060 because it started going that way and i again was not looking for that and then the girl and i just
05:43:45.500 didn't click like on a friendship level um and then i just really clicked with the one who i ended up
05:43:52.860 being in a relationship with yes so um okay prison pen palette turns it so
05:43:59.580 was he like getting out soon and then once he got out you guys start dating or no he gets out and
05:44:05.100 sorry one sec daryl sanders don't need to blue she till me and brian you've been making money all night
05:44:11.580 but you're still big mad you seem to be making a comeback but you've been letting andrew do the
05:44:17.580 heavy lifting for hours what's going on dude yeah you can show that um uh daryl thank you man
05:44:27.500 appreciate it yeah i've been that time of the month you know big sass energy donate i'll change it to
05:44:33.500 you know my fiendom isn't only ever will be a superior white male named brian no way i would
05:44:41.660 give my money to a chubby inferior asian woman burrito zani bri bri empty me good night king daddy
05:44:50.460 she she she heard it right there uh she's just getting some right you should be a fin dog you
05:44:55.420 already have so many simps on here i would fiendom women i don't think i would fiendom men but what if
05:45:01.900 how whoa that's that's that's so similar to what the girls come on here and say though they're like
05:45:07.820 we'll do it we'll do it to men but not to women no but he means he's not gay that's what he meant
05:45:13.180 yeah yeah i'm not he's been exposed i also brian's a sex worker confirmed yeah confirmed i'm cancelled
05:45:19.820 no i i do not want to do uh fiendom um maybe only fans i do like i would totally do this i would happily
05:45:30.540 do this right this second if any of you stupid broads out there listening to me right now would
05:45:37.180 like to give me all of your money for me to degrade you all day long i will definitely do that i kind
05:45:43.740 of already have 69 plus is this bad that i've never heard i will do it yeah i mean yeah something
05:45:50.460 yeah totally absolutely right i will drain your bank but doesn't that go against everything you
05:45:55.900 have and i won't i'll mercilessly not stop until there's not a dime left i'll go the whole nine
05:46:02.620 yards man i'll make sure damn more than me by the time it's done no house no credit cards max it's all
05:46:10.540 mine i've never heard of it dumb i think i'm gonna go check it out yes really yes i've never
05:46:15.420 heard it okay guys he's straight and restring away from god really famous i think i've heard this
05:46:21.180 podcast i uh what are you talking about be a great service be a great service they need to give you
05:46:27.420 what do you mean the dividends how do you call it no no that's not that's twitter no i'm just kidding
05:46:33.260 i'm just saying you're probably still hostile uh so okay go on rap underscore p yeah thank you
05:46:39.740 i made it 69 dollars can't stay up late work trip tomorrow what's up with cabra's peoples they so
05:46:46.380 big the world wants to know oh seven into the look into this one closer uh yo rath good to see you in
05:46:55.580 the chat man thank you so much for the uh tts really appreciate it all right uh let's see oh
05:47:01.740 prison pen pal okay so you dated him while he was in prison yeah never he has he got out no how
05:47:11.100 long wait and this was like three years ago yes you had sex
05:47:18.300 i'm curious like you had physical how would that be possible i don't know maybe conjugal you can go
05:47:23.100 there like in israel if you're going with a prisoner you can go to jail every other month and
05:47:27.420 have sex in a specific room yeah wait but so i think you have to be married for that i think but
05:47:34.620 no how long did you date him not long uh probably about three months in a relationship was he in like
05:47:43.420 a totally different state no he's in california okay just curious what was the crime um
05:47:48.860 um he sold drugs on the dark web
05:47:55.100 okay and let's see was his name the dread pirate roberts by chance no i wish
05:48:03.340 that guy's badass huh okay which one there was three of them right true yeah yeah
05:48:08.940 uh and uh you never did you ever go visit him in person i did yeah okay how many times just once
05:48:18.620 just one time was he cute was he hot i found him attractive awesome did y'all break up after the
05:48:28.620 visit do you have a picture no okay how long is he doing how long is he in prison for uh he gets out
05:48:36.940 most likely 2026 oh she's 2026 oh that's not that far all right you said that your high school
05:48:46.060 ex faked a car accident and you drove from dallas to san diego and then your ex-girlfriend tried to
05:48:52.220 move to texas to live with your dad did you try to fuck your dad my dad tried to fuck her oh my god
05:48:58.700 yeah yeah what are you going with him and also yes okay uh okay um
05:49:08.780 a non-donated 69 dollars chair when you speak act and dress like an attention star stuck 14 year old
05:49:16.460 no masculine man in his absolute right mind with his shut together would ever get close
05:49:20.700 kind of frustration from earlier wait what's the point of frustration the comment or me oh he's
05:49:29.900 saying pants up frustration from earlier so he's still pissed about earlier whatever you were saying
05:49:35.820 oh i don't know i've i've had like very good relationships
05:49:42.540 wait so a few more things on this prison pen pal thing you you provided some notes
05:49:47.100 it started off with the letters then emails i think i guess they okay computers then calls
05:49:53.260 and eventually you went to visit him he was serving 10 years for selling drugs on the dark
05:49:57.820 web we got along great i was willing to be celibate for four years for him i wasn't just saying that
05:50:04.700 i knew just how long i was committing to he sent me flowers for my birthday it was very it was a very
05:50:10.220 weird but i found myself falling in love with just his voice and no he wasn't just sweet talking
05:50:15.260 me i said a boundary with all of my pen pals from the get get go that i wouldn't send them money
05:50:21.100 i was introduced to his best friend and i'm texas mom we didn't end up working out because in his own
05:50:27.100 words i don't want you serving the time with me go live your life you're so lucky they didn't do
05:50:33.100 something to you what would they have done they're in prison no but if you met his mother and somebody
05:50:38.060 from the outside they can perpetrate against you so many stories like that on the web
05:50:42.460 you know i think that's beautiful that he kind of wanted you to live your life
05:50:53.500 despite what people might think about criminals they're still people
05:50:56.860 they did a bad thing it does not define them i agree with you yeah that's why they're serving time
05:51:02.620 exactly they're doing their time i think what's interesting about it is that you've searched for
05:51:07.980 criminals on the web exactly to create relationships with friendships or or romantic i think that's
05:51:14.300 why everyone's like whoa not because we're like oh my god a criminal this actually was a calm i
05:51:19.900 wouldn't say common but this was a thing in 2020 during quarantine really yes yeah it was a good trend
05:51:26.060 are you on like a netflix docuseries no i'm not on i love during lockup or something like that okay
05:51:32.140 what do you think about women who you know used to write to jeffrey dharma and ted bundy and stuff
05:51:37.900 like that cuckoo if they write with the intention of being romantic i wouldn't agree with that just
05:51:47.660 personally based off the crimes okay if you were single when this guy got out like and actually ready
05:51:55.420 to date would you give him like a chance like would you try to find him hit him up see if he's single
05:51:59.980 would i like hypothetically yeah we'll see because it sounds amicable oh yeah yeah it the dynamic would
05:52:09.580 definitely be different once he gets out good point so i think he made the correct choice um and saying
05:52:15.820 go live your life he was right yeah i have a question so do you like only date guys that are in
05:52:22.540 jail or is it or prison or is it like you date any like you know what i mean does it matter i
05:52:31.260 no i never claimed i only date men in prison okay hmm yeah you did say here that uh
05:52:40.300 i i think go live your oh i didn't finish the whole thing it says go live your life
05:52:44.940 maybe if you aren't married with kids by the time i get out we can try to have a real relationship i
05:52:50.620 thought he was just playing the long game for money but even his mom and best friend told me
05:52:55.420 he was really sad about the situation i don't talk to him anymore if when he does get out and you're
05:52:59.980 still single are you guys gonna link i don't know we'll see in two years i guess i'm not saying yes
05:53:07.260 i'm not saying no you still think about him no actually i have like object but okay so like you
05:53:15.100 know if i'm not let's like let's put you in the scenario he gets out you get a call from him
05:53:23.260 and he's like hey i want to rekindle this let's meet up do you say yes
05:53:32.460 with the current stage i'm at in my life right now most likely not okay all right let's see what
05:53:41.180 else we have here do you think men are insecure if they care about a woman's body count um no
05:53:56.700 like if it's more than one or if it's more than zero or like for example they think something is
05:54:02.780 high like too high for them so they comment on it sure uh i think as long as it's not like the binary
05:54:09.340 like virgin or not virgin um then no i don't think insecure no what do you think yes yes insecure
05:54:19.900 okay no no it's preference sheena i don't think men are insecure i think men want to have
05:54:28.460 something that not everybody share with that's what i think
05:54:33.340 so going around the table um what's your body count um i made a promise to my audience that i
05:54:45.260 wouldn't talk about this there's just like certain things that i wouldn't talk about because which
05:54:50.140 audience i'm just curious um i'm on tiktok okay and yeah there's just like like by me participating it
05:54:57.420 would be saying just gerald donated it's okay to judge someone off of that see kami okay she's
05:55:02.540 interesting she has something interesting to say she's pleasant her voice doesn't resemble a dying cat
05:55:08.860 pretending to be from la oh we don't have to bring women down to bring me up but thanks i guess oh damn
05:55:16.700 gerald also um kami is spelled k am i just you know for the sake of the whole podcast please don't think
05:55:23.900 that's how i spell my name it's not like communism yes yes thank you gerald that that tts came in
05:55:32.140 while you were making your point about body count you were saying what can you uh just repeat what you
05:55:36.860 said i've just seen the men and women in my life really suffer from it really um feeling like it defined
05:55:47.660 them and i just my audience was like please don't talk about that and so i'm gonna honor that what
05:55:56.540 do you mean this what do you mean they suffered what do you mean so i've seen like the men in my life
05:56:02.860 feel like they're not worth anything because it's like oh you haven't slept with a woman or like
05:56:08.620 you know you're not valid until you have had that i've heard like my dad say that to
05:56:13.420 my other family members and yeah and um and then it was like the woman in my life like
05:56:21.580 them being like oh if it's oh my god like if it's higher than one like i don't know i just i don't
05:56:29.340 want to like promote the like promote what the idea that you know it it negates all of your qualities
05:56:38.940 so you would object if a guy was like this woman is otherwise cool and great and everything but she
05:56:48.460 slept with a hundred men you think that that would be wrong for him to filter her out on that soul
05:56:55.100 basis if he doesn't want to be with her because of that that's his prerogative that's fine but it's
05:57:00.300 more about like the personal shame well i wonder if this and maybe andrea has thoughts on that i
05:57:07.420 wonder if this whole like well it's their preference they're allowed to have their preference i wonder
05:57:12.860 if that's a bit of an evasion to this question because do you have an issue with the preference
05:57:19.740 because we can sit here and say well i'm i'm fine with people having the preference they can have the
05:57:24.940 preference yeah but do i take issue with the preference well part of my value of acceptance
05:57:30.780 isn't just accepting things that align with my view i also accept that people have different views
05:57:36.860 because if we all thought the same like what the heck would life even be have you guys seen wall-e
05:57:43.260 show of hands it'd be like wall-e we'd all be just sitting around like looking at screens like
05:57:49.580 i don't know yeah all right um what's your body count um and just to clarify this is like in your
05:57:56.540 whole life dot 18 not just 18 plus whole life yeah okay um
05:58:06.460 i think 23. okay what about you 11. five
05:58:13.740 one the man i had a baby with just one wow
05:58:22.140 they didn't have sex with me
05:58:26.220 okay
05:58:28.380 six six i'm gonna evade question i'm avoiding it only because my son said but it wasn't a lot
05:58:38.060 because i was married for three and that's the real number no sometimes people are just not
05:58:42.620 comfortable due to religious backgrounds brian have you ever asked or have you ever answered
05:58:47.020 this question how many body counts you have brian i have not answered this question come on so answer
05:58:52.300 now i'm a virgin i don't believe it stop i i'm a virgin i'm a virgin you know how many long libya you had
05:59:02.940 can you give us a range between you know the girls that come on this well between zero and a thousand
05:59:14.140 it's that's the range
05:59:17.500 playboy alert yeah
05:59:21.660 could be zero it could be a thousand you know who knows who knows uh let's see
05:59:26.300 uh well i'm trying to think here uh hmm oh should we do i i want to do the bow video do we still have
05:59:37.260 bow video 2.0 pulled up do we have 2.0 i think we should have 2.0 we'll do 1.0 and 2.0 so the first
05:59:46.860 one features my ex-girlfriend uh you've never slept with huh that's right yeah all right so this is uh
05:59:57.420 this is my ex-girlfriend this is what i expect these are my expectations in a in a girlfriend
06:00:03.660 uh there's no audio all right uh boom huge bow you see that now that's what i expect she's not
06:00:11.500 really a girl a girl uh she's she's got to hit the bow if she doesn't hit the bow she doesn't
06:00:17.500 get the plow oh i just made that up oh that was a good one boys if she doesn't hit the bow she doesn't
06:00:23.580 get everyone look she's already got my dinner ready my noodles my beer ready to go i i had to scold her
06:00:31.500 for those tomatoes though she looks like she's terrified brian that's how i that's how i keep up
06:00:36.940 people in check okay um play it one more time just like the bow part though just just the
06:00:43.020 quick bow just hit the play button yeah boom huge huge bow um so going around the table would you be
06:00:53.020 willing to bow for your man if i loved him yeah for a second date for a second he's like hey i really
06:01:01.020 like you let me i need a bow though if it was like funny like i wouldn't bow out of like respect off
06:01:09.180 the second date okay but you would do it eventually okay what about you would you hit a bow if he asked
06:01:16.540 me directly i would say no your fiancee like at two days no you're engaged right oh sorry i thought you
06:01:23.740 meant the same question for me at second date let's just say your current oh yes if he asked me like
06:01:28.860 not as a joke like i would okay yeah ruby you'd hit the bow yeah okay i think it's kind of would
06:01:34.140 you hit the bow um yeah i would hit the bow yeah okay no you wouldn't hit the bow no no why not no
06:01:47.260 no bow no it's he's not bowing for me right oh my god like you wouldn't do like what's wrong with
06:01:53.260 that just to make him happy or is it just a one-time thing or is it every time i greet him i don't get
06:01:57.660 this whole like tit for tat thing like yeah it's like like here but here check this out what i don't
06:02:04.140 understand is y'all girls will be like well i suck his dick so he should suck my dick it's like hold on
06:02:13.340 what you know it's not fair
06:02:15.740 you got offended when i asked if you would bow oh i wasn't offended okay but no i wouldn't actually
06:02:24.860 wait me and andrew got into this last show andrew we're gonna have a round two on the
06:02:29.180 the bow debate by the way i don't know if we have time tonight but it's not attractive if i'm in
06:02:33.100 bow at all one of these days andrew would not do it for the pro the perfect woman
06:02:38.460 not perfect whatever um you wouldn't you would you hit the bow that's my boyfriend i'm playful
06:02:46.140 yeah you do it okay sheena uh if you respect me and have sex with me every day yes oh okay
06:02:55.500 so you're the only one who wouldn't hit the bow why wouldn't you hit the bow
06:02:59.340 it just wouldn't be genuine if i if it's a joke and he knows it's a joke then yes i would but in a
06:03:05.340 genuine way no like in a playful genuine yeah i agree with that like playfully yeah yeah that's
06:03:10.940 cute well then yes like just that and that's it but seriously that's weird why is it weird no if
06:03:19.020 you're taking a series that's something you would do like for religious purposes they do it in many
06:03:23.740 countries for respect for respect in china in a lot of arab countries it's the gesture it's like
06:03:29.500 calling him like yeah that's cute i know a lot of countries they do like i think some countries
06:03:34.140 they kiss cheeks or something in china if it's someone you respect do you close their feet i
06:03:38.540 think or no that's actually in india oh yeah because my ex was indian but yeah and then china
06:03:43.020 bow yeah in the arab world they kiss the hand of the man and put their head like this oh i've seen
06:03:48.140 that yes yeah hmm what's weird to me i mean most of you said you would do the bow but you wouldn't
06:03:57.260 you wouldn't do the bow i said not genuinely not genuine in a playful way yes i don't know if this is the
06:04:02.780 case for you but like we've had girls on panel who are like i would not i would not do the bow for
06:04:07.820 a man and a lot of women would say that and i'm like but you'll let him hit within 30 minutes of
06:04:15.260 meeting it's like really son you won't do the bow or you won't cook or you won't do this you won't
06:04:20.300 like fold his laundry but you'll let him like blast on your face it's very confusing i'm confused you know
06:04:26.620 like you'll let him fuck you behind the dumpster you know you'll let him fuck you behind the dumpster
06:04:37.580 in the 7-eleven maybe if you say it more like you'll get a reaction i mean i'm not gonna bow for
06:04:42.460 my man like every day that's crazy but i would definitely do it in a playful manner like because
06:04:46.380 i want to laugh you know i think it's funny like just come here but if you want me to do all that extra
06:04:50.380 the way that girl bend in the video i'm not doing that the the yeah like her head i mean
06:04:56.380 that was yeah that's the the deep bow you can't do a a poverty bow oh my god you would get you would
06:05:05.100 get beat in china if you did like a little no you can't do the hat no no you might as well not do it
06:05:10.780 at all you might as well it's actually humiliating yeah you can't just do the little mini bow no
06:05:15.100 no you can't do it full 90 degrees full 90 yeah that's respect yeah what would you like yeah you
06:05:20.540 know what they would love you in china like can i go yeah yeah see you later guys oh wait wait just
06:05:26.220 stay for we're gonna wrap soon can you stay downstairs we're gonna go uh wait what right my ride you
06:05:32.940 gotta stay for the road session just is it an uber no it's my son and he's giving me a hard time oh
06:05:39.340 is he watching right now yeah he's like no but he needs to do something in the morning and we
06:05:44.860 had an accident with two cars so okay that's fine that's fine um anissa i'll just have you
06:05:51.180 usually i can stay no it's all good it's all good um but you know this whole you don't want to do the
06:05:55.500 bow you won't do the bow but like these girls they won't do the bow but they'll like let a guy give
06:06:02.300 them like like a cleveland steamer after like that night it's just like confusing i don't get it i think
06:06:06.860 it's uh feminism's gonna be wild in in terms of whether women now are taking the worst
06:06:14.700 parts of men and just acting like the worst parts of men like yeah it's cool to sleep around
06:06:21.660 it's like actually so insane the us versus them idea i was literally hosting friends one time
06:06:27.340 i walk into a room this guy's there watching elliot rogers things he's like oh all women are
06:06:33.020 this blah blah blah i was like dang and then i walk into the living room and this girl's like
06:06:37.580 all men are this like all men are horrible and it's like who's right i don't think either of them are right
06:06:43.020 what i see is i see these people who just want to love and be loved in a world that they don't trust
06:06:49.820 in a world that they're scared of like they're hurt you know i don't think that we need a we need to
06:06:56.700 like be fighting at each other's necks like oh women are terrible they're just like extremists like
06:07:01.660 old men are terrible like i think that people are people and that we should just wow that was beautiful
06:07:08.460 that was so beautiful i do think thank you but it also it doesn't answer the question as to why you
06:07:15.500 won't bow for a man but you'll let him like come on your face well i wouldn't know because that's not
06:07:20.380 like my person that's like not my but like a lot of women there are a lot of women who would do that
06:07:25.500 i'm not saying women at this table but there are a lot of women who would have that kind of what i
06:07:31.260 think i said she was like you said you wouldn't do that because she was saying like oh they wouldn't
06:07:38.860 bow but they'd let a guy come on their face and you're like i don't do that and i was like oh you
06:07:43.740 prefer it in the hair oh my god everyone laughed you got the whole squad laughing okay i mean i could only
06:07:55.420 speculate like why so i don't know well i think it is is to do with um just feminism and media and
06:08:03.020 what does it have to do with feminism well because feminism's gone too far so now women are acting like
06:08:08.300 men but they're acting like pigs they're not acting like good men well what does feminism have to do
06:08:12.860 with a woman not wanting to bow but getting stuff in her face well because you know modern women are
06:08:21.100 going out sleeping with lots of men and then not being submissive to men at all brian yeah i uh i
06:08:28.700 gotta roll out a little early too i have a vespers in the morning i gotta get to but i'm gonna do a
06:08:32.700 raid over to your channel oh thank you so much andrew i i appreciate it it was nice to meet all of you
06:08:36.860 guys thanks for the spirited conversation thank you andrew uh andrew let's i got to talk to you
06:08:42.060 tomorrow about something if uh you have some time yeah all right well thank you andrew thank you so much
06:08:48.060 for joining man uh appreciate the uh incoming raid thank you thank you hope you have a good night
06:08:53.500 andrew uh all right any final thoughts here uh we're gonna do a roast session then we're gonna
06:08:58.620 wrap up the show so uh any uh final thoughts any topics you guys want to hit on that maybe we
06:09:05.020 didn't get to touch on i have a question i don't know if it's just me but you guys do you feel like
06:09:11.980 there's kind of a lot of division between both genders i don't know i just feel like that's kind of
06:09:17.500 it's just sad to see um because i feel like if we had more respect for each other there'd be a
06:09:23.100 lack of this discourse of like i hate women i hate men i'm like i think at the end of the day
06:09:29.020 truthfully we just want like respect and love from each other i think the battle of the sexes has
06:09:36.140 been going on for so long like i actually it makes me wonder if if it's ever gonna get better no no
06:09:42.380 if it makes me wonder if like humans living in like society like modern day society will ever
06:09:47.260 even overcome that or if it'll just be like a you know eternity long battle i think it'll be
06:09:53.740 an eternity long battle i feel like the roles are so intertwined nowadays it's just like everyone's
06:09:59.260 saying okay you need to act like a man and you're saying you need to act like a female or a woman and
06:10:03.180 be feminine and then men are very feminine nowadays and women are very masculine so it's kind of just like
06:10:08.860 this is just a hot mess honestly it's kind of like you gotta arrive whatever wave you're on
06:10:14.460 yeah choose wisely by the way guys tts is now uh twenty dollars we have a twenty dollar tts we're
06:10:22.620 going to do the roast session then we're going to wrap the show so if you guys want to get in
06:10:26.780 a roast a tts it's now twenty dollars if you want to sorry to interrupt if you want to
06:10:32.460 continue with your point oh no i think i finished did anybody else want to weigh in on her question
06:10:46.060 grammeow xd donated twenty dollars and 24 cents all the talking over each other earlier gave me such
06:10:51.980 a headache much respect for both brian andrew um yeah thank you so much for the uh twenty dollar tts
06:10:57.660 really appreciate it ab check thank you for the uh gifted 20 memberships you're a legend dude thank
06:11:03.340 you so much man good to see you in the chat thank you man big 20 gifted thank you so much man uh so yeah
06:11:11.180 tts is 20 if you want to get a roast in i mean you can roast her you can roast her you can roast her you
06:11:16.780 can roast her you can roast her roast her don't roast anisa though she's she's uh she got it a little
06:11:27.260 bad last time the roasting uh and now you can roast her too vector donated twenty dollars chair two is
06:11:37.420 a popcorn generator can i get brewers yeast with that no i don't want your infection while i love asians
06:11:43.900 you are not my asian however thank you for the entertainment it is entertaining oh sorry are we
06:11:51.100 just going all the rows are like are we allowed to react you can you can respond absolutely i've
06:11:57.260 never gotten std or sti and you're welcome for the entertainment that is my goal
06:12:03.500 interesting okay
06:12:08.780 oh i don't know why i'm looking at that that was a brain fart on my part i was like waiting for you to
06:12:19.100 say something but yeah so if you guys want twenty dollar tts we're doing the roast session oh we did
06:12:25.180 let's play bow video to luis thank you for the gifted 10 memberships really appreciate it man thank you so
06:12:31.020 much uh you're a legend luis i think you sent in a bunch last show so thank you man uh bow video
06:12:37.580 two let's do bow video two i forget that's the thing i wanted to pull up i'm gonna pause the tts
06:12:42.380 just temporarily just so we can let that uh play and i think no audio i'm pretty sure we want no audio
06:12:50.700 on this one
06:12:56.380 yeah so this is um this is kind of like upgraded a little bit but then there's a twist
06:13:03.580 no no sounds no sound
06:13:08.300 all right can you or wait here
06:13:10.060 i mean this is i think this is great too this is great too
06:13:19.260 i i think this is how it should be oh wait what what exactly hold on bro
06:13:26.620 bro damn that's well he still got his bow though the first half of that
06:13:32.140 the first half was good the first half was good but the rest was not good would any of you do that
06:13:41.420 like kneel take his shoes off i actually used to take off my uh boyfriend's shoes when he came home
06:13:48.220 because this is funny because his feet are huge it was like it was like impossible but he would also
06:13:53.500 take off my shoes word that's cool i kind of criticize her technique a little bit though
06:14:01.740 because she was touching the underside of the shoe like there's a way you could take the shoe off
06:14:05.500 without like you do the heel you grab from the the top you know so all right i think like the video
06:14:13.020 guys the idea of the first part of the video i think is no different from a girl being like look
06:14:17.740 i have this nice guy that drives me around and he bought me a handbag you know it's like kind of
06:14:21.420 like i don't think it's any different but people seem to go crazy when they see a woman submitting
06:14:26.620 to a man but if it were a woman making a tick tock oh my my boyfriend drives a sports car and he
06:14:32.940 picks me up and opens the door for me and all that kind of stuff you know yeah that would be fine
06:14:37.580 that would you know that wouldn't even go viral yeah i feel like we see that meme a lot like with
06:14:43.100 the girls but it's like only when the guy's literally doing everything that you want you know
06:14:47.500 like i make jokes like that i'll do all this for him so long as he's like what i want in a man
06:14:53.340 i mean i don't know if this is like the point that brian's getting at but sometimes it really just is
06:14:57.820 for content and entertainment purposes like i think like the couple had a lot of fun i don't know if
06:15:04.060 they do that every day but i think they had a lot of fun making that but i would make i would have a
06:15:07.500 lot of fun making that video with my fiance i think it's a bit deeper though because i think if women
06:15:12.460 in general just i think when i say you know when i was referring to feminism earlier and i say it's
06:15:17.260 gone too far i think if women just pulled back a bit and women were a bit more submissive and offered
06:15:21.580 that it would then force men to be better partners and think well actually i want one of those women
06:15:27.820 that will sort of cook for me and stuff but in return you know she wants me to sort of open the
06:15:32.300 door for her and be polite and you know not be vulgar in front of her and stuff like that and
06:15:36.140 it would then generate you know better value men rather than kind of men not having any responsibility they
06:15:42.060 can do what they want women can do what they want and nothing matters and all that kind of stuff
06:15:46.060 i think it would enable more respect between um genders honestly yeah and like the plot twist at
06:15:53.100 the you know and the plot twist where he's cooking if there were like a video where you know maybe it's
06:15:58.940 like a guy's buying a girl handbags in the sports car like you said but then she goes back home and is
06:16:05.340 bowing and you know serving her food and then he's cooking like wouldn't that be an interesting plot
06:16:10.620 twist like would it be so controversial as this one well yeah men on i feel like men on you know
06:16:16.140 treating those women that are getting that lifestyle from men on the women who are like acting wild
06:16:22.140 like on social media and stuff and all the women who are like shouting at him or saying you need to do
06:16:26.300 this and i won't do this and saying no to him all the time and stuff like that they're probably like
06:16:30.460 very nice partners i will say social media is kind of a lie a lot of people making a lot from stuff like
06:16:37.340 instagram and tiktok it's very different from when you meet them in person i think that's what
06:16:42.780 it's called like rage oh rage bait oh rage rage bait yeah things are like that it's like to trigger
06:16:47.420 people yeah to get engagement yeah don't take it seriously it's kind of like this like podcast it's
06:16:51.900 rage bait i mean that's why i'm here and i was like you're gonna wait hold on well let's explore
06:16:57.820 that claim so uh what what is rage bait about the podcast i mean it's pretty self-explanatory rage
06:17:03.660 no why don't you actually articulate your argument okay so you feel like there's moments where i think
06:17:09.900 even the girls can agree there's like moments of hostility and that's like to cause rage bait
06:17:13.660 amongst the viewers like your facial expressions like they tell it all yeah anybody who has like
06:17:18.540 eyes can see like okay body language it's telling even when you say nothing like bringing up the kkk and
06:17:24.620 hitler bro like yeah yeah and also you were like sorry and you also like have done troll answers
06:17:33.100 and then like caught yourself but you're like i did one troll answer yeah but think about the
06:17:37.740 troll answers that you didn't identify i mean that's how you get to make it though yeah to make it more
06:17:43.020 simple like why don't you just scream rachel every time i can't really do it three if you want so let's go
06:17:47.100 over your claims here okay so your claims are what rage bait that's literally all rage bait yeah
06:17:53.820 okay articulate it it's pretty like i said self-explanatory no it's not self-explanatory
06:17:59.260 what's the meaning of rage and then what's the meaning of bait it's like a test here i'll google
06:18:05.020 it i'll google the definition and you tell me if you agree with the definition okay rage baiting is a
06:18:10.140 manipulative tactic used to get people to react emotionally to content usually with the goal of
06:18:15.820 increasing engagement and revenue yeah so like people use rage bait titles so titles that are
06:18:21.020 kind of like whoa and that's more like like clickbait it's pretty similar to what rage bait like
06:18:27.180 encompasses but are you saying that you're being sort of tricked into coming on here for rage bait
06:18:32.140 oh no no no no no no no no no i think she meant the way that the content yeah is marketed like for
06:18:38.300 example like you know knowing your audience is like traditional males you purposely you know it's like
06:18:43.980 strategy to bring feminists and you know adult workers and stuff and they have titles like
06:18:48.700 misandrist toxic blah blah blah like like we're talking about you literally are a misandrist
06:18:54.940 then why do i love my fiancee and in the past my exes i was very isn't this the same argument of
06:19:00.860 like well i have a one black i never said i can't be racist isn't that the exact same argument
06:19:06.460 um i have a black friend therefore i've loved multiple men in the past like different exes so
06:19:15.500 not at the same time but i don't discriminate against men for being men like i just truly i
06:19:20.940 wouldn't have even met my fiancee if i were someone to just jump to the conclusion oh you're a man you're
06:19:25.340 toxic there's too many completing claims here so let's go back to you can you actually articulate
06:19:30.140 how the podcast is rage bait because you're saying well brian you get angry well me being like
06:19:35.580 frustrated or angry by what's going on the podcast that i mean that might be you might consider that
06:19:42.300 like beat me being angry i don't see what that has to do with a rage bait no i didn't say those
06:19:48.300 moments okay but you said i make faces yeah that's normal body you made faces all night too cool we both
06:19:53.980 made faces are you rage baiting you could say so okay i wouldn't say you're rage baiting just
06:20:00.060 because you have a facial expression but can you actually articulate how i or the podcast rage baits
06:20:07.100 um titles or videos i can't look i mean i don't i'm not really i mean if the titles accurate accurately
06:20:14.380 describe the content i think but you're smart enough to know that what you do is um it lures a certain
06:20:22.140 type of audience that is in your favor well what what type of audience does it allure why don't
06:20:26.700 you tell me tell me i'm not no no you made the claim it's your job i haven't done enough research
06:20:31.580 on no but you made the claim you cannot you made the claim so why don't you tell me no i'm just
06:20:37.500 saying i feel like there's maybe moments like i sense that there's moments in the time that like
06:20:42.780 i've seen the girls speak you speak and interact i can't give you an example from the top of my head
06:20:48.300 no no but you made a claim about the audience so what is your claim about the audience
06:20:53.340 all i said was that like you know your audience and you know what type of titles or content allures
06:20:58.460 to your audience a smart business person would do that that's not the same as like clickbait though
06:21:05.420 and sort of being deceptive and manipulative it's just so i know what you mean i've seen titles of
06:21:09.900 shorts that will say you know feminist this but like that is literally just like a descriptive
06:21:16.140 title that is short and gets attention it's not going to be very reasonable rational woman has
06:21:20.700 a calm conversation with brian because it just doesn't happen yeah i mean i'm just comparing like
06:21:25.420 like you know little clips on tiktok or something to something minuscule like a clip from here you know
06:21:32.700 i know you mean like a little bit like taking the highlight reels because it's engaging it's exciting
06:21:37.660 for people to watch in 10 seconds versus scrubbing through the podcast and finding the like exciting parts
06:21:42.780 um and then having like on the tiktok sometimes like captions or whatever to make it exciting
06:21:49.020 but again you're gonna have to actually explain what is the actual what's the actual claim here
06:21:56.060 i'm still a little confused how it's rage baiting i didn't say this podcast was rage baiting i was
06:22:01.420 giving a small comparison of rage rage moments like if i put a clip of like 10 seconds on this podcast that
06:22:09.180 will allure somebody that's kind of you could pick a moment that will isn't this just i mean but isn't
06:22:15.980 this just common in all forms of entertainment yeah like if there's a highlight reel i'm trying to make
06:22:21.180 if there's a highlight reel of a football game they're not going to make a highlight of all the
06:22:25.420 downtime and all the timeouts they're going to show the touchdown they're going to show some really
06:22:30.060 good tackle so if there's an exciting entertaining moment on the podcast that's not right of course
06:22:36.060 that's going to be what gets clipped but i'm a little confused okay well i don't think you've really
06:22:45.740 really articulated your point but i mean i'm open to hearing it out if you want to try
06:22:58.380 um i don't know i i think maybe it's being taken out of context i just try to make like a comparison
06:23:05.820 between a small clip maybe that you could put here versus a small clip comparing like to another video
06:23:11.580 online i'm not saying the encompasses of your entire content is that i'm just giving examples
06:23:20.060 and so that just to be clear the entire claim is just it's rage bait what claim that i'm just i'm
06:23:26.300 just gonna let the tts come through yo guys tts is 20 if you won't get it donated 20 dollars brian
06:23:32.460 had to give you 20 just for dealing with this panel chair one's mental gymnastics to dodge
06:23:37.180 questions is absolutely mind-numbing props on your patience brian yo uh jay niche thank you man
06:23:43.740 appreciate it johnson donated 20 be careful lady to not sneeze so your faces don't slide off andrew and
06:23:50.620 brian keep up god's work by showing the delusion these women live in yo ethan thank you man appreciate
06:23:56.620 the uh tts thank you so much man reality blown underscore on underscore x donated twenty dollars
06:24:02.380 and sixty nine cents these dumb slopes started attacking you the second andrew left it wasn't
06:24:07.820 rage bait it was women who can't fight their own positions because they're illogical you all sound
06:24:12.940 pathetic especially you daryl underscore frank castle 512 donated twenty dollars any man that sits in a room
06:24:22.860 with six dumb asses would make faces too male sign boy uh yeah the real frank castle thank you for the
06:24:30.780 uh tts yeah look man i mean there's a lot going on behind the scenes that uh i'm not disclosing at the
06:24:40.540 moment but perhaps might be disclosed in coming shows but uh and in addition to that i mean look every
06:24:46.620 doing these shows twice a week uh look you're trying to put on the production uh people don't
06:24:53.180 have the same standard of professional conduct as you do uh it's very it gets very frustrating and i
06:24:59.980 get tilted you know we got people running late i want to credit those of you who did arrive on time i
06:25:06.140 believe you were on time you were on time you were on time i think you were on time late late late and then
06:25:14.700 late it's frustrating i because i if the show is starts late i get all the flack for it uh and if
06:25:23.980 it was up to me we would probably be able to start these shows at 4 4 45 should everybody actually show
06:25:31.020 on time but they don't it delays the start of the show that's obviously frustrating for me i want to get
06:25:35.660 the show out on time um people don't listen to the pre-show instructions no offense to most of you
06:25:41.260 half of you were on your phone despite austin who is very polite to all of you saying hey guys i have
06:25:47.180 to give you pre-show instructions for 10 minutes please listen you were taking a story some of the
06:25:53.180 rest of you were on your phone sheena was on her phone there's a bunch of stuff that's like just
06:25:57.820 annoying that goes on behind the scenes so i mean it is what it is i wanted to ask do you do the podcast
06:26:04.540 so late because people won't come to it earlier well i mean people have work so i mean i four p we
06:26:12.860 meet time is four p.m we go live at five p.m actually we used to do uh six p.m meet time go live at seven
06:26:20.380 for some of our earlier episodes but that was i thought that was too late so oh i forgot not
06:26:26.220 everybody's gonna be like full-time social media and stuff but people come from normal jobs yeah so if
06:26:30.460 you have a normal job like we figure it might be more more possible for somebody to come in
06:26:37.340 like at four versus like if we did the shit at noon yeah i feel like that'd be a bigger
06:26:42.380 hurdle for getting guests yeah because a lot of people have jobs or or school or you know something
06:26:48.620 so yeah uh let's see what else we have guys final call if you guys want to get your uh tts in uh
06:26:57.020 uh but uh let's see final call i'll put it
06:27:06.060 this is actually going to be a short ish show i feel like that's so weird you guys thought i was
06:27:11.020 trolling like you guys were or like you kind of rachel actually got upset like she started calling
06:27:16.860 me names because she couldn't even defend her position
06:27:19.180 wait she couldn't defend her position or she could
06:27:27.180 dariel underscore frank castle 512 donated twenty dollars so they make themselves sound stupid on
06:27:34.620 live and then blame you for being clipped i'm watching live from nyc it's almost 3 a.m
06:27:41.740 um vector donated twenty dollars yo vector thank you lady can you say the word no brian did you
06:27:49.580 know that the british voice mostly used by your donations is called brian i do know that the voice
06:27:55.500 is it's the brian voice it's called brian thank you vector can you say no well do they want me to
06:28:01.340 be like no like do they want it like british or is it like a question of they don't say no
06:28:07.420 what was that did anybody hear that that's peculiar um that was up dog uh well i think
06:28:16.620 like you know how the australians say oh no no no i don't think the british do it that way no no
06:28:24.540 that's the genuine no yeah it kind of sounded like you guys like the accents but everyone always
06:28:29.660 thinks i'm australian we have uh william casaris thank you man for the super chat i don't know what's
06:28:35.180 more annoying her valley fake voice or her dgen a moral scamming both thank you william appreciate
06:28:41.660 it man twenty dollar tts if you guys want to get it in yeah look i mean uh what was i gonna say i
06:28:48.460 forgot oh i was definitely tilted tonight like i fucked up i shouldn't have got so tilted but it is
06:28:54.940 what it is um there's a lot going on behind the scenes so um anyways maybe maybe we'll talk about
06:29:03.020 at some point but professionalism huh professionalism what do you have different
06:29:09.260 wait hold on you said like there's a lot going on over the scenes so you got tilted but it's okay
06:29:14.780 to have this different standard of uh professionalism that you hold others to
06:29:21.180 i'm sorry what do you mean earlier you were saying like oh some people have different
06:29:24.620 definitions of professionalism and you know that's not great for your you know whatever your flow
06:29:34.060 like that is what you said right but you getting tilted is that beneficial for the show like
06:29:39.980 no it's not okay so you are also working on professionalism would you say that yeah sure i
06:29:45.820 would certainly agree that being frustrated is unprofessional but if somebody smacks you in the
06:29:50.060 face and you smack them back and it's on camera is that professional i would never do that at work
06:29:55.820 i would never you wouldn't defend yourself at work whether it's i'm working for someone else or my
06:30:00.860 company would you let somebody smack you in the face at work i wouldn't say come smack me but if
06:30:05.660 they smack me i would not you wouldn't hit them back okay well you and me are especially if it's on
06:30:09.740 video the difference here so to as a as a attempt to articulate my point it's frustrating when
06:30:16.860 you've gone over the rules with people and they continuously defy the rules they don't listen
06:30:23.580 case in point you you were on your phone when austin over here i was perfectly polite to you
06:30:29.580 was trying to go over the pre-show information and when people are on their phone hold on when people
06:30:33.820 are on their phone when my staff my team is going over the pre-show information they don't know how to
06:30:40.620 conduct themselves on the show because they weren't listening that's what led to the constant you
06:30:45.500 probably missed the part where we say one microphone at a time don't be interrupting each
06:30:49.660 other don't be don't have multiple microphones talking so yes as somebody who who's tries to
06:30:55.980 be orderly it's frustrating when the guests on the show do not conduct themselves in an orderly way
06:31:02.780 yeah maybe it frustrates me live because we are live if this was pre-recorded we would just cut out
06:31:08.620 all the tilt it would just be the content but it's live so yeah you're going to capture the frustration
06:31:13.580 it just happened twice but objectively i actually do think you guys could like throw in a rule like
06:31:18.220 just wait one second like after someone finishes because a lot of us started talking after a pause
06:31:24.700 i mean there was constant like cross talk and back and forth and or not back and forth excuse me
06:31:32.140 like interrupt interruptions and you guys were talking over each other even though we tell you
06:31:38.460 like one microphone at a time and there's a bunch of other stuff too yeah i mean since we're going
06:31:43.900 into it like me waiting downstairs for 13 minutes when arriving on time i didn't really see that as
06:31:49.020 professional i would never i've never seen that in my tech work you can go back and see
06:31:55.740 yeah i'll pull it up on the security camera but oh but maybe censor the account i'm not i don't know
06:32:01.580 what you're talking about but yeah it's called staging so i don't think that i think that has
06:32:07.420 that please arrive at 4 p.m yeah that has more that has and i was there yeah that has someone will
06:32:13.260 like okay i'm like finishing like someone said send a message and we'll come down and pick you up
06:32:18.940 something like that right like i think everyone got that message yeah at 402 i was like huh
06:32:24.540 i'll see where i went to both doors because i thought maybe i was in the wrong place you went
06:32:29.260 to the wrong door yeah yeah but i went to both doors because i actually misunderstood because i
06:32:33.340 was like oh there's no way they would just leave me on red i'm here so i went to the other door then
06:32:38.300 i realized oh i'm at the wrong door because i was thinking hey maybe they thought turn left at the block
06:32:43.900 what's that corner store not the tacos i definitely was 15 minutes late i definitely went to the wrong
06:32:50.060 door too and i did read the directions and everything which is how i discovered i was at the wrong
06:32:54.300 door yeah i checked both i mean i came because i drove away from la too and i had to do it from
06:33:00.140 ss yeah i drove from it took time off my startups yeah it doesn't make any excuses but i came from
06:33:07.740 london and i was on time yeah i'm just saying professional so maybe everyone can so you're
06:33:12.540 definitely not gonna be late yeah i'm just saying maybe everyone can work on professionalism and it's
06:33:16.540 not just the gas so okay hold on wait wait wait wait hold on so you're a hundred
06:33:24.060 percent wrong you are a hundred percent wrong and this is slander and a false accusation i have
06:33:29.580 security camera footage with time stamps at uh 408 you enter that door i sent so that means and my
06:33:37.980 staff does a thorough security what with the wrong door because i actually entered that door facing
06:33:43.020 that side don't fucking dox you fucking oh my god i don't talk shut up so at 408 at 408
06:33:51.980 you guys came through our door in the studio yeah so it was not 413 and that means that for my staff
06:34:01.020 to have gone to have done security check on four people i can see what what time they went down to
06:34:06.620 get you guys you guys went down at like 403 or something so you would have made contact with her at
06:34:14.540 four sorry that we were four minutes fucking pathetic bro you said 4 p.m so it's actually
06:34:21.100 eight minutes that's just generally how professionalism works when you say what are you
06:34:24.940 talking about my staff was down there within five minutes and it's called staging next time tell
06:34:30.620 people 408 maybe we'll be late that's all i'm saying like professionalism maybe like maybe
06:34:35.020 the fuck are you talking about maybe we'll be a few minutes late why are you being so defensive
06:34:39.900 you're attacking because you lied because you lied because it was not 413 no it was not for
06:34:46.540 i have a time stamp that i'd be happy to show you you guys walked through that door into the studio
06:34:52.940 at 408 yes it doesn't make a difference between 402 me messaging and 408 us coming on like my staff
06:34:59.980 was down there within six minutes wait the me time is they had to take three minutes to check the
06:35:06.700 message then they took three minutes to go downstairs look are you really are you're
06:35:11.500 actually are spending so much time you're actually are slurred for being butthurt because
06:35:17.580 you had to wait for four minutes i've actually never encountered that with professionals so
06:35:22.860 you've never had to wait four minutes fucking unbelievable i think this conversation is making
06:35:27.260 me lose brain cells yeah honestly not to answer the point about coming from la the route from
06:35:35.500 london to santa barbara is london la than santa barbara wait so you flew here yeah i flew from
06:35:42.620 london to america i know but did you drive from l.a you said you came from london yeah so you have to
06:35:48.380 fly to the airport in l.a let's drive let it start yes okay i didn't know that yeah thank you trenton
06:35:56.860 appreciate it man
06:36:01.580 jess gerald donated twenty dollars commie stop while you're behind
06:36:14.860 uh gerald thank you man appreciate it thor donated twenty dollars
06:36:18.940 chair number one can't answer a simple question without complicating it and chair number two
06:36:24.140 can't take any accountability and delusional puck you there i said it i feel like i make
06:36:30.300 questions more simple daryl underscore frank castle five hundred and twelve donated twenty dollars
06:36:37.020 thank god grandma left already she takes too long to land the plane chair two definitely hates men
06:36:44.220 hopefully her fiance learn what type of woman she is and dodges that bullet he's watching brian
06:36:50.460 atlas donated 19.99 thank you brian atlas goes like this burrito burrito burrito burrito burrito
06:37:02.780 and comes back like yep yep that's true gmd jim donated 20 thank you jim the average
06:37:12.220 iq of the gorilla is 70 to 90. 61 countries have an average human iq of that same 70 to 90 and 18
06:37:20.380 countries are below that at 51 to 69. trump please come back and finish the wall
06:37:28.540 sono donated 20 dollars imagine doxing the location kappa yo sono thank you man appreciate it yeah jim
06:37:35.340 thank you for the uh thank you for the uh thank you for the comment about average iq appreciate it man
06:37:42.220 um yeah bro fucking four minutes four minutes i'm sorry about the docs four minutes but to be fair
06:37:50.700 you guys also talked to me what okay harrah uh to the ladies who showed up late or couldn't follow
06:37:58.860 proper rules you owe brian about caught you brian you got me thank you uh brian is the goad of patience
06:38:07.900 i would have caught a case a long time ago whoa uh i mean what does called a case mean it means like
06:38:14.300 he would have like you're gonna do something criminal he would attack somebody okay got it
06:38:18.860 okay i'm someone i rate right yeah salt and battery all right um let's see here uh
06:38:27.260 i think uh that's pretty much it if you guys want you can get your last minute uh message in i'm
06:38:31.820 gonna wrap up the show so uh we're gonna do a twitch raid who are we gonna raid let me see
06:38:36.380 what's a raid like on twitter it's when you like push your audience to another twitch channel oh yeah
06:38:53.980 so let me see one sec guys we're gonna get the twitch raid kind of somewhat set up
06:38:58.940 so we can do a smooth outro here who do we have
06:39:04.540 all right contentious show certainly um who do we oh davon jackson i just got here when y'all were
06:39:12.620 arguing about talking over each other i went back to a random point in the pot five hours ago yep and
06:39:19.100 you were all talking over each other yeah yo davon thank you for the uh tts man really good to see
06:39:25.340 you in the chat appreciate your uh long time uh long time support okay we have nico four donated
06:39:31.420 twenty dollars one last 24 how fucking dare you austin austin and desmond look a simp simp
06:39:40.220 money for austin and fucking rollo how fucking dare you and fucking victor donated twenty
06:39:46.140 how fucking dare you guys for being four minutes late you're twenty dollars richer you're welcome
06:39:50.620 um poor dude rage baiting every pinball machine in his whole town poor dude you you know what you
06:39:57.260 guys are all fucking fired for being four minutes late and fucking pieces of shit you got you know how
06:40:04.220 could you disrespect this sex worker by being formed how could you how dare you disrespect her
06:40:12.940 maybe four minutes late i
06:40:15.180 devon jackson donated twenty dollars that's crazy also w hard tilted brixton she rage baited you
06:40:22.620 brother lmfa she did rage bait me it was a good rage she got she got me all raged out um
06:40:28.620 ah all right um tilted is so funny yeah definitely tilted all right the goal
06:40:36.620 yeah you bet you were intentionally provocative i feel like yeah yeah like i said it's all business to me
06:40:42.460 me yeah pleasure not pleasure doing business with you um uh let's see all right bobca whoa grandma who
06:40:52.060 did we do we're gonna raid bobca he's playing yeah we're definitely rating bobca uh not yet not quite
06:40:58.700 yet we won't pull it up i just gotta do the outro all right guys well gg oh can you put the uh audio on
06:41:05.500 really quick i'll read anisa could you read this chair two you better show your fiancee some gratitude
06:41:14.700 for putting up with your snarky mouth if it was me i'd have you dumped oh you i have i have dumped
06:41:20.540 you a week into just knowing you once again thank you oh go ahead once again this is my fin dom twitter
06:41:28.860 persona it's just business i would never talk to him like this and i don't know if he's still
06:41:35.500 watching or sleeping but yeah i mean it only matters to us too right why does like my life concern you
06:41:44.140 darryl underscore frank castle 512 donated 20 dollars shorty in the pink said she was 15 minutes late
06:41:52.540 but it's okay cause that's still early for negro bro exactly
06:41:59.500 come on guys don't say shit like that guys okay um oh all right um so anyways uh gg well played last
06:42:11.740 call guys hit the uh like button hit the like button please on your way out thank you for tuning in
06:42:18.940 tonight you could have been anywhere in the world but you're here with me i appreciate that thank you
06:42:23.260 to everyone who super chats donates and supports the show uh we could not have a show without your guys's
06:42:29.340 uh very generous uh support and patronage so uh seriously like without you guys wouldn't have a show
06:42:36.060 so all credit to you guys thank you guys we will be live again we maybe it's on the fence if we're
06:42:42.060 going to be doing irls this weekend that would be 10 p.m on friday and saturday it's it's a maybe
06:42:47.660 so if you want to tune in for the irls maybe i'll announce uh we'll see and then but certainly we'll
06:42:53.420 be live again sunday and tuesday with more dating talks any girls who want to be on the show dm out
06:42:58.300 whatever on instagram if you can make it to santa barbara just to be nice to uh k dog over here okay
06:43:04.060 sorry i can't say cambra cambra kibra kibra kibra k dog yeah i will allow you to put your duck photos on
06:43:11.340 the table for the for for the final portion of the show she wanted to have these she snuck one
06:43:19.900 she broke the rules
06:43:21.100 i love my duck so this is so cute
06:43:25.740 desmond austin mdoc k-pop britson and the newest member anissa this is this is
06:43:31.420 forgive me for simping but anissa be a distraction sitting there so pretty
06:43:36.860 do you want to respond anissa
06:43:41.020 thanks oh okay uh yo thank you man appreciate it and then yeah so she has these this is my favorite
06:43:47.980 this is my instagram duck he's called duck official it's not he's not mine it has like a
06:43:51.820 million followers like are these just photos you found on google or they actually no this is called
06:43:55.340 duck official on instagram this is my favorite instagram account i found this one on google look
06:44:00.140 how cute he is look at his little beak i keep these in my in my journal because they're so cute and they
06:44:05.660 make me happy um yeah but i have ducks like all over i have ducks as like the covers for some of my music
06:44:12.380 so there's just like they're they're in my life and so uh you know i had to i had to be
06:44:19.900 firm but fair she wanted them on on the show i had you know i had to say no but she's not she's
06:44:25.820 very sneaky though she left one on the table but there you go i obliged your duck thing i couldn't put
06:44:30.780 bartholomew away ah shoot i bartholomew i made a fortune teller out of him it's really
06:44:37.020 it's one of these sad ew anyways that was i don't know what that was
06:44:48.780 that's all what else oh the ray let me just i want to double check i want to make sure there's no
06:44:53.340 tts's that could cut off or anything okay i think we're good guys like the video please on your way
06:44:57.900 oh we we gotta do a final twitch shout out uh guys go to twitch.tv slash whatever twitch.tv slash
06:45:04.700 whatever right before we do the raid and we wrap the show you gotta go to twitch.tv slash whatever
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06:45:31.900 and then oh really quick uh unfortunately i don't think we have the tab pulled up go to
06:45:36.780 debate university.com it's andrew's course if you want to learn how to become a master debater like
06:45:41.740 andrew you got to get there it is verbal combat debate university.com you got to get the course
06:45:46.380 debate university.com uh i think that's it we're gonna raid bobca do you have him oh oh my okay well
06:45:54.940 he was streaming for like 10 hours so sorry let me find somebody else uh let's see who else is online
06:46:04.380 is he still wait he's offline yeah she
06:46:09.740 sorry guys one sec i gotta find who somebody else to raid then
06:46:14.940 uh do we do aladar or whoa grandma i think since i was kind of toxic tonight we got to do a wholesome
06:46:22.300 raid to whoa grandma so we're gonna raid her guys she's 82 be nice she's playing world of warcraft
06:46:28.220 classic uh she's been streaming for about four hours 250 viewers we're gonna give her a raid
06:46:35.180 uh she's playing no she's not playing world of warcraft classic she's playing retail all right you
06:46:41.020 got the audio on on that all right guys i'm gonna send the raid in 10 seconds thank you guys so much for
06:46:45.820 watching on twitch uh before we send this over just check if you have a follower prime sub but
06:46:49.820 uh oh could you put us on the other side yes uh right corner way down here
06:46:58.700 all right yo already pulled it so i hope you're there yo yo oh sorry i'm sending the raid now okay
06:47:04.700 thank you guys for watching on twitch sending me the raid now thank you guys good night
06:47:07.420 looks like she's in a raid that's a what uh 10 20 30. hey whatever hi there she's
06:47:23.180 fucking that thing up belladar spawn are you a gamer i used to be i used to play world of warcraft
06:47:30.140 i haven't played video games in like three years though too busy um what this is a big that's a big
06:47:38.060 raid there there's one she's got a better stream setup than we do look at that look at all those leds
06:47:43.980 back there we gotta upgrade the studio here all right i saw two people that's it uh all right all
06:47:52.700 right oh seven's in the chat oh seven's in the chat i hope you guys have a good night thank you
06:47:56.620 get into the panel appreciate you guys coming on oh seven's in the chat good night guys we'll see you
06:48:01.020 uh on certainly on sunday for another dating talk good night guys