AW, BASED Shina vs. SUPER DEGEN PANEL?! MISANDRIST?! TOXIC Los Angeles E-GIRLS?! | Dating Talk #203
Summary
In this episode of Whatever Dating Talk, we have our first guest on the show, a 22 year old musician from the San Francisco Bay Area named Kami. We talk about music, music education, and what it's like being a musician in the 21st century.
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i'm kybra i'm 22 i'm from la and i'm a musician all right what kind of music uh do you make um well
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my background is in classical music but now i more do like it sounds like electronic kind of
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and you're a violinist is that correct yeah did you play any other uh instruments uh yeah piano but
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not i'm not classically trained in piano i just do it to song right and you're classically trained in
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violin though yeah okay we tried to get you to bring the acoustic do you have i got out of the shower
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this morning i looked at my phone and i was like this is so last minute yeah no it's all good and
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so you also do electric violin correct yeah okay uh and you what's like your go-to classical piece
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for violin i really like well it kind of depends on whether i'm doing um a solo piece or it's a symphony
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piece for symphonies i like tchaikovsky but for solo pieces one of my favorites is called la folia i'm not
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sure who the composer is what's the name la folia oh okay la folia yeah you know i love you gotta if
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you're gonna speak please speak into the mic sorry sorry all right go ahead what about you i'm kami
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um age 26 and currently i'm based in sf bay area um but i come to la a lot because i used to live here
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all right what do you do for work oh yes i do fin dom fem dom um and then i guess like my vanilla
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work background is i used to be a or i am still a tech founder but not full-time anymore um and then
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kind of like dabbling in content creation lately yeah you said you recently graduated from grad school
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oh yes yes i did from cmu and pittsburgh okay yeah yeah um and on your instagram it says you're a full-time
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is it you're a full-time it's girl from tech now do you mean i thought i was i mean i thought it was
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kind of like witty because you can read it as like an it girl right but also an it girl yeah so that was
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my question do you mean it girl or it girl both i'm both i can be your it girl can we be a little
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bit quicker just a little bit quicker on that okay um yeah not not you um okay so let's see uh
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all right and you're uh we'll get to that in a bit what about you hi i'm ruby hex i'm from london
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i'm a full-time content creator age uh 26 what kind of content do you make i do um a mix of social
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media and only fans content and i also own an only fans management agency all right what part of
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london are you or you're from london right well i live in london but i'm from a tiny little welsh
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countryside area but i live in north london okay what about you hi my name's desirate and i'm 24
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and i'm a phlebotomist all right where are you from oh i'm from san antonio texas from texas got it
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okay and a phlebotomist so how long you've been doing phlebotomy for uh this is my third year
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okay all right what about you hi i'm chelice i'm from pittsburgh pennsylvania but i live in la
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i'm a rapper and i own a hair company all right uh how old are you i'm 28 28
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uh rapper can we hear something freestyle what you got for us bottles on bottles on bottles
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models on models on hoes on niggas know how to drive a boat feel like i'm not copying this
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bitch they're gonna pull up wherever i go keep about 10 back on deck and we milk in a year i'm
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honey to go i see my body yeah check put in my count yeah check
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hey there you go i had to like like fuck out a lot all right i thought you were like
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you know how like in rap songs there's like words that get censored i thought you were censored i was
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censoring myself the whole time okay um what about you hi i'm raya i'm 23 i'm born and raised san
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diego and i am a bartender model social media manager amongst other things all right what wait
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you uh you said model yes uh content creator a little bit yeah o f or no no no okay ever very
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briefly okay very briefly okay what about you yeah so my name is tanya um i'm currently a full-time
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student at ucsb i'm originally from la and i do a little bit of social media um that's about all
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all right age 22 what do you study at um i study communications and you're a senior no i'm a
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sophomore okay got it go ahead sheena ray reynolds uh i'm 50 um yeah i'm a motivational speaker author
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and i'm a certified facial injector for the last 10 years and that's it i'm brian atlas 35
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santa barbara california uh over the hill has been youtuber washed up youtuber um andrew what about you
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yeah my name is andrew wilson i'm the host of the crucible of popular entertainment channel on youtube
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i'm a political analyst a political satirist and i engage in conversations and debates of all kinds
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across all political spectrums all right welcome everybody we're going to go around the table once
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more what is everybody's current relationship status so are you single talking stage situationship
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friends with benefits relationship married polycule sex cult harem whatever it may be
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if you're single how long have you been single and what's the longest relationship you've ever
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been in starting with you go ahead i'm single but i'm not open for business and i've been single
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since july 3rd and um what was the last one longest relationship oh right i think a little over two
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years so you've been single for about three to four months july 3rd four months i guess right august
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september wait three three months okay thank you for the thank you for the assist there
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and sorry longest relationship again about two and a half years 2.5 years maybe two is that the one
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that ended three months ago no that was a shorter one okay who broke up with who most recently uh i got
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um 2.5 years who broke up with who that one was more mutual it was like we either get married or
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not and we weren't ready to get married okay all right what about you i'm actually engaged right
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now congratulations thank you wedding coming soon we're having like our first wedding next month
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yeah and another one next year like a bigger one yeah how long have you guys been together
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um it's been one and a half months oh sorry one and a half years
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that would be concerned that would actually be kind of concerning but like also been there
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what's your uh longest relationship um this one yeah but my last two relationships were also around
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one and a half years long so i'm sorry could you repeat it oh how long i'm sorry this is okay this is
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my longest relationship one and a half years but then my last two relationships were actually
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like the same length as well okay what about you uh i'm in a relationship i've been in a relationship
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for oh gosh two and a quarter years and this is my longest relationship
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all right what about you um i'm currently in a relationship um it's been eight months
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and my longest relationship has been three years all right longest relationship three years yes okay
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i seem to recall in your notes you said you you were on again off again with somebody for nine
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years oh yeah that was my ex-boyfriend of three years oh so it was on for one year off for three on
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for one no we were on for like three years steady and then after that i think it was like 2020 or
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2019 and then since then okay all right what about you i'm single but dating my longest relationship
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was three years okay long three years all right yeah uh and you've been single for how long i've been
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single since it's been about a year almost a year january january okay i'm single my last relationship
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ended in september and my longest relationship was just under a year
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uh so it ended about a month ago your most recent relationship yeah okay who broke up with who i broke
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up with him and then your one year relationship who broke up with you it was mutual okay what about
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you um my longest relationship was six years because there was a high school relationship leading into
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after high school um what was the other question
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your current relationship status i'm single just dating okay how long you've been single for
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i've been single for a couple months but dating seriously for about three months
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dating someone seriously for three months are you guys boyfriend girlfriend no not officially
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but you hold on you're single sing you're single but you've been seriously dating someone for three
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months yes if somebody were to walk up to you and ask you on a date would you no and you're attracted
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to them would you accept no because we're dating exclusively i'm just but you're single yes but
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you're not available to other people currently we've made an agreement that we're exclusive to each other
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so that's why i say without the title but i'm waiting on the title
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uh and you sorry longest relationship it was six years six years okay who ended that one i did okay all
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right what about you well i'm waiting for my king i'm single divorced um waiting for my king as i
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said i had a relationship for four years it's ended about a year and a half ago almost i'm a single mom my
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son is 21. all right uh andrew what about you yeah i'm uh happily married and i have been for uh well over
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a decade all right that's everybody's relationship status going back to you now you said you're
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single but you're not open for business yeah okay so when you're going up to flirt with someone right
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what's the first thing you ask it's are you single right so when people say like oh are you single i'm
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like yes they're like okay like you want to like they just want to flirt with me and i'm like no i'm not
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looking for a relationship i say i'm not looking for a relationship they're like okay cool so like
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friends with benefits and i'm like no i'm not looking for like any romance so they're like okay
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hookups and i'm like no not hookups like i feel like there's not a good word to describe it i just
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i'm not interested in that at all right now i'm like do i say i'm celibate like what do i even call
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that are you celibate i am yeah okay um how long have you been celibate for since the breakup
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which was three months ago yeah okay uh so if a guy came into the picture you just
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tell him to go away yeah i have like i'm trying to build a career right now and so that's taking
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all of my energy all right um those of you who are uh single because i mean she said she's single
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but she's been seriously dating a guy for three months so i guess going back to you you said you've
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been single for one month are there any guys in the picture i misspoke it was actually august
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my bad um no no guys doesn't matter but okay no guys in the picture no guys in the picture i'm not
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in any rebounds since the breakup okay and you've been single for one year but come on there's a guy
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in the picture come on there's definitely a guy in the picture but he's in the picture
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he's what he's just in the picture right now how long you've been talking to this individual
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for about two months kind of was like playing with him at first like not really interested and
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then he surprised me so we'll see where it goes all right okay um let's see where we go from here
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we're going to get into the pre-show notes uh the first thing that i want to do is this has been going
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a bit viral we're going to do a react um so there's this uh girl it's been kind of viral on twitter
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there's a lot of twitter tabs i wasn't able to uh get through it with you guys and show it to you it
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should be like one of the first twitter tabs there's a lot but
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i think it's the first should be the first one just tell me what it is
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yeah i'm pretty sure that's it let's pull that up
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well you got it okay hold on just please please please guys pause stop uh put it to the very
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beginning please i'm pretty sure the audio on twitter needs to be boosted just the
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the can you hover over the audio on twitter please okay it's that's max all right um let's just play it
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then i put makeup on just for this date so it better go well and i'm not posting this probably
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if it doesn't it did not go well truthfully it lasted less than two minutes i walked up
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he gave me a hug and said are you hungry let's go inside we went inside he said actually can you step
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outside for a minute i stepped back outside and he said i'm not trying to offend you but i'm just
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not feeling it so i walked to my car came back home
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i don't know if that was the problem i think it was honest so recap here uh she went on a date the
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guy she says it lasted two minutes the guy says he wasn't he had sounded like he was polite but he
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met up with her two minutes goes by he's like hey i just don't feel the connection or whatever
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and leaves is this unacceptable behavior should he have stuck it through should he you know what was it
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was it was it wrong was it a dick move starting with you go ahead well up until the last anecdote
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i was like oh this is a very polite full respectable video right this girl gets ready for a date she shows
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up the guy's like honestly i'm not feeling you and then they leave and that seems fine but um i feel like
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when you're kind of insecure about something we look for a reason like oh it's because i'm this or because
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i'm this when honestly it's not always that you know like we don't really know why there isn't always
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a reason why and so although it's easy to jump to these conclusions i don't think that's very fair to
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either of you your thoughts yeah i wonder why like the last sentence that was the conclusion she came to
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because like i've been i've i've been on like a lot of bad dates but then like just kind of to give the
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guy like a benefit of the doubt and you know see if there's any redeeming personality traits maybe
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like i will go through like you know a whole date and so i don't know i just really wonder like if
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maybe like you know if there was more context is this the first time she happened it happened like
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is it from like a dating profile like did she misrepresent herself in any way because it seemed
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very certain how she just jumped to the conclusion like maybe it's her biggest insecurity but i
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honestly like it sounded like she was more insecure about her makeup in the beginning of the video so
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how come she didn't jump to the conclusion saying like you know it like oh dating is hard when i don't
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know how to put on makeup you know what i mean yeah okay that's my thoughts your thoughts yeah it just
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sounds like she catfished him but also i think it's it's fine to just say you're not into it i've
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done that before it saves everyone's time and money yeah especially if you're busy you work a lot and
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you think fuck this i've got to go sorry sorry i'm already that's fine you gotta go on like three dates
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a week i'm trying to find a partner you know i've only got these evenings for you know i think there i
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mean there's some people weighing in with additional details saying that on the dating app she did say that
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she was overweight and she did have uh photos that were that showed her and her being overweight
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uh but even even if assuming that's even the case um and the guy knew going into the date that
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exactly how she looked uh i suppose looking at it from that way do you think there's anything wrong with
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even though going into the date he wasn't catfished but he just saw her in person maybe she smelled bad
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maybe she was making a tick tock as she walked in like hey guys here's my date and he was like i'm
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not having this yeah so it could have been i think your vibe in person is very different sure what about
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you um i think it was kind of rude for him to leave in two minutes because maybe they had like a
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connection online i think he should have still pursued it like till the end and maybe they could
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have been friends regardless of anything because they both went out of their way to go and they
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should have gave it a shot i definitely think he should have stuck it out i'm just curious like what
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if he got a text from like a girl he really wanted to go on a date on and it was in the middle of that
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date so he's like you know what i'm out i've already had a drink i'm dressed up nice and she
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could have smelled bad she could have smelled bad and just it's just like okay she was cute online
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you know everyone looks a little better online and in person and he's kind of like this just ain't it
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you know but he could have stuck it through your thoughts i don't think there's anything wrong with
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honesty i prefer that versus someone going to the bathroom and then just sneaking out i'd rather
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someone take me outside where it's more private and just let me know hey i'm not really into it
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i honestly wouldn't take it personally just because it's more i think a matter of he probably
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didn't physically feel attracted to her or like they were saying it could just be like a vibe thing
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where the energy is like you're not what i expected you to be so is there a booster here do we not have
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a booster is there a booster yes oh okay all right all right yeah so i would say that's just my
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thoughts on it i mean i've ghosted dates before myself so like if it happened to me i wouldn't
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be offended i'm like everybody's not everybody's cup of tea so you can't expect everybody to like
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you you know i think ghosting is very different to telling someone in person that you you want to
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leave and you don't like it i think ghosting is really i don't think there's anything wrong with that
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no i agree to tell somebody i think ghosting is really it's horrible it shows like really bad
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personality because if you can ghost someone you literally don't care for other people's feelings so
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she needs to tolerate that and i think part of being mature it's to admit to yourself first that maybe
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i'm not his cup of tea and not take it personally because some people like you for what you think it's
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not good and some people like you for what everybody think is good so it doesn't matter
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like it's part of being mature to tolerate it i don't like the idea of us like i know it's so easy
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to be like you know maybe she didn't look like her pictures maybe she smelled weird maybe she was this
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but it's like maybe he just didn't want to go on the date with her like maybe there if i don't like a
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banana it's not because there's something wrong with the banana i just don't like bananas and that's okay
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or he could have been scared too yeah it could have been multiple it could have just been personal
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a lot of times we think it's like our fault for the way that people act and treat us a lot of times
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it's very much whatever is going on inside our own heads are why we act a certain way it's not like
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because someone else we have uh let's pull up can you pull up the tweet and show the full tweet
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guys like the video f11 please all right uh so this guy provides some commentary can we scroll
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up make it a little bigger i think it's her eye many many young men go through life expecting to be
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treated like this and worse you know why we don't typically feel bad for those men because they're not
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entitled to anything somehow we forget this when an unattractive woman has her feelings hurt
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and scroll down a little bit like uh to some of the replies uh what actually
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yeah actually it's kind of yeah um i totally agree with that i think it's very different for men it'd be
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like i just ghost this guy you know it's very normal thing but if someone leaves a date for a
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woman it's like ah but like i the the comparison i give it to obviously i know this is a different
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context so you'll have you know you'll have you know meeting up from a dating app is different but
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if prior to dating apps like and still to this day men will approach women in person and i mean
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i mean nobody like men shouldn't feel entitled to because we approach you that we deserve a date with
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you but like women typically are not particularly polite when men approach them in person especially
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if it's you know alcohol's involved they're at a bar nightclub whatever but if guys were to complain
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like oh she rejected me instantly because if a guy steps to you and you're not physically attracted to
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him you don't give him a chance and so it's just interesting how like here's this woman hey
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you know there could be some component of hey maybe it would have been tactful for him to finish
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out the entire date but i mean this is the story of any man who's ever approached a woman in person
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and she wasn't physically attracted to him she didn't give him a chance and so i think women reserve
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the right at any time if they're not comfortable or they don't want to be on a date with a guy
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maybe the polite thing to do would be to finish out the date but i they're certainly within their
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right to end it and likewise i think men if for whatever reason for any justification they can
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end the date too andrew any thoughts on this yeah i noticed something um maybe i can point out you
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guys can tell me if i'm crazy or not if you pull a picture of that girl back up uh on twitter i noticed
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that uh and this is going to sound odd but i noticed that her chest is very close to her throat
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it's like very close to her throat yeah i'm not kidding right look look at the picture which yeah
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it just tells me that she's like really really really heavy like really heavy
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and so like the gut is actually pushing the boobs up so that's why it's so close to the throat
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so if i were the guy and i got there she she might be quite a bit larger than you think that's all i'm
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saying yeah and i think if you're fat that's okay and i don't and i think it's okay to not like people
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that are fat i think like both is fine and if you're insecure about it lose weight or if you're not
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just find someone who likes you for for what you are i think some men might like a very big woman
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and that's fine but it's it's totally okay if men don't i think it's a bit playing a bit of a victim
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card to be like oh people don't like me because i'm fat well some people will like you but a lot
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of people won't but you know you know what doesn't make sense to me is the comparison that you're making
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about like a random guy approaching a woman getting rejected and this is a date where they both knew each
00:28:46.320
other they both agreed to a time and a place this isn't like a random approaching and also this can
00:28:51.520
just be sad right like this woman's opening up she's being vulnerable she's putting her heart out
00:28:57.280
on the internet she's saying like hey you know i was excited for this date and it didn't go well
00:29:02.800
and that can just be sad it doesn't have to be compared to like oh man this if a man got vulnerable
00:29:09.840
and he was like hey someone walked out on me on this date and i got ready i was so excited that's sad
00:29:16.480
that can just be sad like it's not a man and woman i mean i i get what you're saying hey that
00:29:22.080
that can just be sad but the thing is is that um people enjoy making social commentary and relating
00:29:28.400
issues to each other because uh that's the way that human beings think about everything literally
00:29:33.360
we think about everything through the conditionals of other people's experiences so we usually use
00:29:39.120
those as analogies and then compare them with our own experiences to come up with answers so when this
00:29:44.080
chick makes commentary and she's like hey and i showed up to this date and it was a pretty
00:29:49.520
miserable feeling that this guy said goodbye and then she knew right and i think that if she thinks
00:29:55.360
that the guy left because she's uh what did she say she was fat right i think that she knows if the guy
00:30:01.280
left because of that she's probably right right like she's there so she probably figured out what the
00:30:07.680
actual problem was yeah so yeah of course people are going to make tons of commentary about that
00:30:12.000
like i will hold on grid one motorsports donated two hundred dollars and one cent yeah thank you
00:30:19.520
good be intellectually honest she sent him pictures that were 10 years old in the best lighting possible
00:30:24.960
then she showed up and the truth smacked her like four day old fish not sad at all
00:30:29.840
okay well then that makes sense yo grid one really good to see you in the chat man thank you so much
00:30:35.920
for your uh tts i mean even uh there's there is some dispute as to well were her photos that she
00:30:44.880
posted on the dating app uh representative of what she currently looks like um but i think you were in
00:30:52.720
the middle or were you in the middle of saying something i was in the middle of i was gonna say um
00:30:57.360
um like my ex ex so two relationships ago he was um overweight i think he was actually obese
00:31:05.200
because he was like very big and then like on oh we met from a dating app and like there was a photo
00:31:12.560
like full body um yeah his face looked way slimmer in the photo but i mean just me using just general sense
00:31:20.560
i was like okay i can tell like he is obese and then you know like i still went on the date and then i ended
00:31:26.240
up like really liking him as a person and that's why i you know decided but yeah so i think like
00:31:33.520
you know there probably was something where before that they were talking where she misrepresented
00:31:39.360
herself like i'm just saying it could be personality it could be looks um it could be like you know the
00:31:46.000
photo is old can i say something i think that there's an easier answer perhaps than any of these that
00:31:53.040
had he realized that he could just get laid really easy because she's really fat and so when he showed
00:31:58.720
up though he got there and went i just can't go through with it and that was the end of it like it
00:32:03.200
could it could really just be that simple can i say something regarding this um yeah i don't like when
00:32:11.520
women i don't like this new fashion that women go on dates and they don't like it or they don't like
00:32:16.640
someone or something and they go online and immediately immediately spit everything and
00:32:21.680
waiting for oh poor baby oh poor girl how what did he do to you he's a bastard he's this is that
00:32:27.040
i don't like it i think it's a stupid mentality and everybody should be aware to who they are and what's
00:32:33.600
their obstacles and where they coming from and how they look and between you and me when i see an
00:32:39.120
overweight person without being offensive to me it shows a person that have over body warms and somebody
00:32:44.880
who's ill and you have a gut problem because when you're overweight obviously you're super sick from
00:32:49.680
the inside and your body full of body warms so for me it's it's no no body worms body worms exactly
00:32:58.560
body worms like you said that when somebody is overweight usually medically i'm talking medically
00:33:06.160
right now they have a body worms right so when you have a body worms you can
00:33:10.480
uh get people to have it through your mouth you can have h pylori through your mouth through sex
00:33:15.760
through oral sex i mean i've studied this so when i see somebody who's overweight or somebody
00:33:20.960
with acne or skin problem it means they have a lot of body worms so for me it's a turn off
00:33:25.120
and second of all i think women should keep it i would be embarrassed to go online especially as
00:33:30.080
a woman because we master of cheating and deceiving when we wear our makeup and do our plastic surgeries
00:33:34.800
like i said last time wait wait wait wait sorry body worms yes like parasites i think she's saying
00:33:42.160
worms worms how do you say do i say that worms as in like when somebody yeah when somebody have
00:33:48.000
h pylori is bacteria yes exactly so when people have body worms okay in general usually i'm not talking
00:33:54.400
about you know somebody to have a medical problem like got forbidden cancer or sugar or something like
00:33:59.280
that but usually people who are overweight and young they have body worms problem in their brain
00:34:04.880
in their gut and it's gonna lead to other they have a needs to put down the fork problem is what
00:34:09.760
not body worms problem what do you mean what there's not what body worms the worms are eating the food
00:34:16.080
all right wait okay do you don't you don't believe in like that um that like what is it they drink
00:34:22.000
paint thinner or whatever to get rid of the body worms what turpentine you don't believe in the
00:34:25.840
turpentine do you not no no okay that's not the way that's not the way to do it it's basically let
00:34:32.080
me just finish this the body worms come from people who eat usually either excessively they don't cleanse
00:34:38.320
their body when when you don't cleanse your colon and you don't let your body get the waste out with
00:34:44.560
liquids and everything they drink soda they eat a lot of dairy or stuff that you know stays in your in
00:34:49.840
your vessels and your body that's how you get like that and it's super dangerous if you have sex or
00:34:54.800
intercourse with someone else you can get a lot of stuff from them well i don't know about the i
00:35:02.400
don't know about the warm stuff i i studied it a lot trusty i'm gonna get into the pre-show
00:35:08.960
notes here unless andrew you had a final thing on the video well no i mean just to wrap up i i would say
00:35:17.360
it could just be really the simplest explanation is the correct one a lot of times men will do a date
00:35:23.680
with a woman who is really overweight that they're not attracted to it's true because it's a sure
00:35:27.600
thing yeah because they can go home they can you know they quick date they have sex it's done um
00:35:34.240
and he may have just gotten there and realized she nope i'm not not even not gonna do this and then
00:35:41.280
out the door he goes and i think that um if i had to bet everything i would bet that that's more
00:35:47.520
work into what it actually was all right uh here we're gonna move it on but uh so getting into the
00:35:53.680
pre-show notes we have ruby here ruby london of model monogamous relationship you said you have an
00:35:59.760
interesting background of doing uh corn uh now you're wanting to turn it around and get out of it
00:36:06.880
it now question though uh when you say like you were in the traditional corn industry no no just uh
00:36:17.040
only fans oh sorry just only fans just of how long you've been doing it for um about three years
00:36:25.200
three years okay and uh when you say you're trying to get out of it what do you mean um yeah i just i
00:36:32.480
started it on a whim um got really famous really quickly um so didn't have any time to really think
00:36:39.600
about it blew up really quickly and um yeah as time went on i got a little bit older realized you
00:36:47.520
know it's it's not really where a lot of people should be i think it was just a very dark industry
00:36:53.200
and there's there's a lot that isn't i think portrayed in the media a lot of girls are like
00:36:58.400
well i'm a boss bitch and it's this but actually it's just really yeah well in your in your pre-show
00:37:03.840
notes you said as you've gotten older as i've gone you've gotten older you've done a complete 360
00:37:09.280
and you think it's a terrible industry and you're working hard to leave it now uh and you'd uh but i
00:37:16.160
mean are you is your only fans currently active it's active but i don't make content anymore you stop
00:37:21.360
making content okay are you like a hundred percent stopped yeah i see so um
00:37:28.160
i'll put like face selfies like in clothes like like a hey guys you know kind of stuff like that
00:37:32.480
but nothing oh so you still post there but it's not nude content no not nude not bikini not lewd
00:37:37.920
not nothing so it previously was though yeah i see okay and then uh you also said i think brian
00:37:44.720
is sometimes ignorant to certain things even though in general i'm a fan i would be happy to disagree
00:37:49.920
with him if anything comes up that i genuinely don't agree with uh what are some of just the
00:37:53.680
disagreements i'm happy to get into them yeah yeah brian you're ignorant brian she might be right
00:37:59.920
she might be right um what uh so what give me give me i guess an elaboration on the criticism here oh
00:38:07.040
my gosh i'm sorry um i'm not offended it's okay okay um um so off the top of my head i'm going to
00:38:15.440
struggle but i think um when i've seen that so i'm a fan of the podcast and i wanted to come on and i was
00:38:19.840
actually quite nervous because i do see you grilling a lot of the girls that come on here and
00:38:24.240
i think sometimes by ignorant i mean you will ignore what the girls are trying to say because
00:38:31.040
they're not saying it very well and maybe they're not articulating themselves well so it's very easy
00:38:35.600
to kind of just like you know kind of ignore what they're saying because they're not saying
00:38:41.760
it well if that makes sense so i was like oh it'd be interesting to to see what it's like yeah
00:38:46.320
well i mean to be charitable um some people are not you know they you might actually
00:38:53.760
someone could be right about something but they don't know how to actually properly articulate it
00:38:59.200
especially in a high pressure debate scenario uh but i'm also not a mind reader so i have to go
00:39:06.640
based off of what the women are saying yeah and um you know i try to be understanding and charitable
00:39:13.440
the best i can but uh so you'll hear a lot of these terms during the show from ryan is what you mean
00:39:19.680
x do you mean this by that are we talking about this or are we talking about that and so all of these
00:39:26.880
are trying to get context clues because people do fail to articulate positions all the time in a way
00:39:32.320
which are easily understood and so in order to kind of get clarity sometimes people actually get
00:39:37.120
upset when you try to get the clarity in fact i've seen more people get upset with brian
00:39:41.840
from him just asking for clarity like do you mean this by that or or do you mean that by this right
00:39:48.080
like what are we talking about here yeah i've actually seen them get upset at him for
00:39:52.800
misconstruing a position they seem to get more upset at him from him just trying to get the position
00:39:59.040
and that that is uh i'm like i don't know what he can do about that exactly that's that's well put
00:40:05.600
andrew is that it that's it what what uh is there something else or no i think um it'd be
00:40:12.720
interesting just as the show goes on i'll definitely speak up if i think there's anything that was it
00:40:17.120
well what do you what do you mean by you'll speak up as in i will try my best to articulate myself and
00:40:24.080
what i mean well what does best mean in this context though okay i'm done i'm done i'm done
00:40:31.200
okay i'm done i think she's saying if she doesn't agree with something she'll say something yeah i'll
00:40:37.120
try i'll try and i will myself try to be intellectually honest but we'll see and were there um was there
00:40:43.760
anything like specific like a specific scenario because some was there something specifically that i was
00:40:49.840
that i was ignorant about i think there was and i can't remember i do apologize i'm so tired
00:40:54.560
like jet-liked but um it might have been on it'll come to me i'm sorry i feel like i'm try to think
00:41:02.080
of it if you can but i'll move on with the uh notes okay that was a no show we'll come back to her
00:41:07.520
let's see we're gonna get to uh i'm you'll have to excuse me if i mispronounce her name tanya that's
00:41:15.840
right it's tanya tanya okay uh your first relationship of six years your boyfriend turned
00:41:22.000
out to be gay yes that's right i didn't know at the time and from what age to what age did you date
00:41:28.560
him um i was young so i was in high school so i was 15 and it went on till 20 and then like it was
00:41:36.880
about to be my birthday so that's why i just say six years because technically six years um yeah he
00:41:43.760
ended up being closeted and it really warped my view on dating and so how like did you find out
00:41:51.600
because you dated him for six years did you have suspicions early on in the very beginning i kind
00:41:59.520
of thought that i was like he dresses a little feminine but i was attracted to that so i kind of
00:42:06.800
like i was like let me not judge a book by its cover like you know maybe some guys just present more
00:42:11.600
feminine and then and then maybe you should have judged and then yeah maybe i should have judged a
00:42:17.600
stereotype but i don't like being that person i kind of well so so tell me tell me something was he
00:42:23.520
um messing around with dudes while you were with him i have no idea i wish i i what do you find out i
00:42:30.000
found out through a a transgender girl that i used to be my client because i do brow threading facial
00:42:36.880
threading and she talked to me and what was that oh no keep going brow threading yeah so she came to
00:42:43.360
me and then no brow threading because i do facial threading and she was a client and she would ask me
00:42:50.240
about him and she was like did you ever like have any suspicions of him being maybe closeted or gay
00:42:57.200
and i was like i mean i thought that he was a little like odd but i mean we were in a full-blown
00:43:04.560
relationship so i had no reason to think so but then she later on told me like yeah he was texting
00:43:10.400
transgender girls gay guys bisexual you mean guys with everything what everything everything
00:43:16.720
my ex-husband did the same everything it's more than you imagine i feel like a lot of guys are
00:43:21.120
closeted and i mean i'm surprised because i mean it's 2024 and my god wait so it's a couple questions
00:43:28.080
here um like why are you guys why are you right girls turning all these guys gay what are you
00:43:33.360
doing why is it the girls actually why why can't you guys be open there's no reason to be closeted
00:43:38.880
anymore like we live in a society that is supposed to be accepting of that right that's the problem
00:43:43.600
that's what created some that some people don't have families that's approach created this problem
00:43:50.720
to begin with for you thinking it's legitimate to everybody do what they want and go be a man try to
00:43:56.800
be a woman and you call her she and with when it's a man that's the main problem it's not supposed
00:44:02.160
to be like that we're not like that if it's a man it's a man physically it doesn't matter how much
00:44:06.160
he's trying to change himself into a woman you know and well i don't think he was trans was he
00:44:11.200
no no but i'm saying my ex is like putting my tights on and stuff i mean he would
00:44:16.560
it's definitely not attractive so i mean there's a sign men need to be a real man so just a couple
00:44:22.320
now the way so wait so now it's the alex jones meme is the women are turning all the men gay
00:44:27.520
yeah no i feel like they've been they're just down low you can't turn someone gay
00:44:34.800
okay a couple a couple clarifying questions here uh you dated him for six years so what you found out
00:44:42.320
and you broke up with him immediately or did you continue dating him
00:44:50.080
uh-oh what'd you do i was attached so it only went on for a month so at least in that way i was
00:44:57.120
attached it's my first love my first everything my high school sweetheart yeah so it's hard to like
00:45:01.680
i mean i it was a friendship like i didn't want to let go of the friendship that was the thing that
00:45:05.760
i was like attached to but yeah i had to break it off i i caught him i oh my god it's just traumatic
00:45:14.000
but i saw porn on his phone and i i was like what is that and it was a day that he was sleeping over
00:45:19.600
at my place and i was like what's that like i and he's he was like straight porn and i was like why are
00:45:26.000
you stuttering like let me see and he wouldn't let me see and then the following week a girl messaged me
00:45:32.080
and he had like a profile for that grinder grinder i have no idea what is that one of those though
00:45:39.200
like if you know what i'm talking about it's a gay dating app grinder yeah so and then yeah so that's
00:45:44.720
how i found out um and so but did you okay so like a month before you broke up so you guys were
00:45:50.880
together for six years or you found out uh and then you stayed with him for a month but you had
00:45:57.520
some suspicions prior is that correct slight okay but no nothing definitive but you stayed with him
00:46:03.520
for a month had you guys been hooking up no it was a relationship well by hookup i mean uh sex
00:46:11.120
he had sex uh during the relationship after afterwards no was it the white guy no no but you didn't feel
00:46:18.400
it when you had sex with him that he's not really i didn't get that you didn't get that he's not oh he's
00:46:23.600
not at all bisexual probably i mean that's what i mean he's bisexual i just you know you just told
00:46:30.000
somebody who's that i mean i was just like you're gay and like if you're attracted to both people i'm
00:46:35.520
like you're you're gay i know it's a bisexual by definition no you're right he's but no yeah you're
00:46:41.360
right and there's no problem with that but just don't hide it like don't use a relationship to hide
00:46:48.000
you're where is he now is he like with a man oh he's with a girl from high school too i'm like
00:46:55.440
why are you using us scared to get out of the yeah he's just scared emotional burn it's a lot of culture
00:47:01.520
like shame because it's like he's a he's um ethnic he's mexican okay hang on hang on hang on let's back
00:47:07.520
up let's back up here because i've been kind of taking some notes is the only proof that you have that
00:47:13.840
this guy is gay is that some transgender person who was sitting in your chair once told you that
00:47:18.800
no there was more i found out through the app how the app oh okay what was the app what was the app
00:47:25.520
i just knew it was for all all love if that makes sense like men and women it was for men and women
00:47:34.000
in gays and it was like i don't know the name of the app well it was just a gay it was just a gay
00:47:40.080
it wasn't just strictly to men just just to make things easy for us did he admit to being gay like
00:47:46.160
did you confront no he didn't admit to it he just said he was confused wait but so i'm assuming you
00:47:51.760
guys you guys were dating for six years i'm assuming there must have been a prolonged conversation about
00:47:56.400
this yeah you were like hey dude are you gay and he said no or what did he say he's he he sounded
00:48:05.280
confused he was just like how do you know like i don't know i don't think i am so in my mind if
00:48:10.640
you are questioning it you're more so leaning on the fact that you're not straight no i don't know
00:48:16.560
about that one i think he i mean like he could be but why would he be on the app i'm in a relationship
00:48:23.840
i'm gonna have to give her the big agree here no to be honest no i disagree because my fiance
00:48:28.800
thought that he was um by or pan for like the longest time and you stayed with him
00:48:34.320
no wait this is before we met this was is everybody on the panel dating and gave him
00:48:39.920
this is way before i want to say i want to tell you something if i even had wait can i finish the
00:48:44.240
story though because i feel like it's important for context he even met up with a guy and then he
00:48:49.360
was just so turned off he was like he was kind of sad because he went through so much trouble
00:48:54.640
but he actually was like i can't believe i've just been whatever confused fantasizing whatever
00:49:00.000
and it turns out he's like super straight fantasizing though a lot of men i think that's
00:49:05.040
like watching videos with something though that's like to question i feel like if i'm fantasizing about
00:49:10.720
a woman i'm i'm questioning my sexuality yeah but like you know but only up until that point that
00:49:17.200
he met someone in person after that no fantasy no anything he's like you know i tried it i think
00:49:21.360
sometimes he tried it no no he tried to meet someone in person like i think nothing happened
00:49:26.400
because he was so turned off and then i think sometimes like people just want what they don't
00:49:32.080
have like people are curious about things in life i think sexuality is just one of them listen just the
00:49:37.440
fact that a man would come and doubt himself and say maybe i'm maybe i'm not for me it's a huge turn
00:49:43.760
off yeah yeah it's not a real man like a guy even talking about it and it passes his mind it could
00:49:49.120
be that in 10 years from now when he had this little thought he could turn around and maybe
00:49:55.040
i'm pan yeah and you don't know but you don't listen it would be a double standard it's the age
00:50:00.080
but it's not it's not you you're not the problem you don't understand some you are too young to even
00:50:05.040
realize it i'm not saying it in a bad way but it could be that the guy was debating you have like
00:50:11.920
issues that he's embarrassed from the family embarrassed from you embarrassed from what's
00:50:15.840
society gonna say you know and in 10 years time is when he's already strong emotionally and have
00:50:21.760
this strength to come out he would come out when a guy even mentioned that to me it's a huge red flood
00:50:27.520
well i do know there have been like two accidents obviously i'm not going to share his trauma on this
00:50:31.840
podcast like i don't have his consent to do that and i do think that's actually why he had this
00:50:36.560
fantasy basically this is your guy now yeah like there are two a lot of trauma too i've had heard
00:50:44.400
of a lot of stories with victims of trauma like yeah to be and that's why there's nothing wrong with
00:50:51.760
you know being on the spectrum of like yeah with your sexuality but it's a problem when you're using
00:50:57.040
people because i was being oh yes yes so that's what i'm saying i was like i don't have a problem
00:51:02.960
with somebody being gay i just wish like you would have voiced that but like don't bring me what if i
00:51:08.160
had gotten pregnant you know what if i would have been with this person but a lot of a lot of married
00:51:12.400
men affected but what about the current girlfriend oh she doesn't know i reached out to the poor girl
00:51:17.680
i was like hey girlie does she care the conversation no not the hey girlie obviously
00:51:23.600
i was very respectful i'm like i you should know like this person um might be leading you on but
00:51:30.320
if you said to him so you said hey are you gay he said no i'm not gay and then what you broke up or
00:51:35.680
what happened he never admitted to being gay but how come you broke up i wasn't willing to be with
00:51:42.000
somebody who was unsure of their sexuality and me and how i fit into the relationship anymore
00:51:48.160
but regardless that's to me i'm already getting considered i consider that cheating because i'm
00:51:52.640
like you didn't even act like ask me like didn't even include me in the conversation so at that
00:51:59.280
point there was things happening behind my back which means yeah i broke up for cheating it was
00:52:03.920
basically cheating no no that's fair enough i was just wondering if there's any like you should kick
00:52:07.360
him out just for being afraid to get infected with someone that's the first thing that's true
00:52:12.800
i want to say something i think regardless like if a man is a little bit curious about his
00:52:16.800
sexuality whether he likes men or women i feel like that is a big turn off for me like i don't
00:52:21.760
have any problem with any exactly people at all i just feel like when it comes to men i don't want
00:52:26.400
to see it like it's okay if you do it but i don't want to see it but if you're not attractive and you're
00:52:30.320
like um i'm not sure if i like guys or not ew no like could we google the definition of homophobic
00:52:37.280
for the record i would rather have someone did i miss something i would rather have someone i'd rather
00:52:43.440
be dating a guy no because i like girls so it's like i'm not homophobic i just don't you only don't
00:52:48.400
like gay guys it's not that she doesn't like them she doesn't want to be with somebody who's
00:52:53.360
wouldn't it be better for a guy to understand himself and like experiment with his sexuality
00:52:57.760
and like figure out what it is that he wants don't you wouldn't it be better that he figures it out
00:53:03.680
when he's young versus when he's settled down has a wife and kids like 30 years later i think that's
00:53:08.880
yeah but it's not i agree in a relationship i totally disagree that's not cool at all can i
00:53:15.120
can i tell you why can i tell you why it's really wrong when you say what you think what no why it's
00:53:21.200
wrong okay because when you're young and you're experimenting it's like this little girls who
00:53:26.880
experiment in and think they look for the sexuality to be boy and they have only a transition of being a
00:53:32.480
tomboy and then society pushed them even further a lot of guys when they were young and had
00:53:38.560
trauma from something else and they start to debate their sexuality and say oh trans i tried this i
00:53:45.360
tried that god forbidden they hook up with a guy who is a pervert and do something to them that are
00:53:52.240
going to stuck in that trauma they're going to think they gave forever because a lot of gays not born like
00:53:57.120
that they go off on their train of trauma so i don't agree with that at all i agree i don't know
00:54:03.680
i think if someone comes to you and you accept them for who they are and they and you know very
00:54:09.200
specifically your role in their life why does it matter what like what they feel attracted to just
00:54:15.680
well i don't exactly say the reason why it matters because like when guys are intimate with each other
00:54:20.800
the way that they have sex like that's i don't whatever you're doing with him i don't want that in
00:54:26.640
me like and that's just the way that oh god yes not just not just the table is saying that they
00:54:31.360
don't like gay people they're just saying that some women here don't want to be with a man who's
00:54:35.360
like sleeping it's not it's not even that and then it's easier to catch like hiv that is that like that
00:54:41.440
through the anal but it's not even that you ask a very important question i want to answer this
00:54:49.200
when you're in your 20s and you ask that question it's okay but when you be married with someone over
00:54:54.560
10 years and you have kids and you have this uh a male i don't even say men it's a male that he's not
00:55:02.000
sure and debating with his sexuality and he needs to be a father and a provider and a protector and
00:55:07.760
he's debating and he's his sexuality and urge more important than the big picture which is the kids the
00:55:14.720
house and everything he's not going to be a leader to your family he's not going to be the protector for
00:55:19.040
your kids and to you as a woman when you get older and and when you have to run your you know
00:55:24.720
the whole picture of the family you're going to suffer if you're going to have this mentality oh it's
00:55:30.240
okay he can just experiment it's his sexuality you're not you're not marrying a man yeah you're marrying
00:55:36.080
a boy who's not sure and in the end you're the one that's going to get affected because you're not
00:55:40.720
going to stay young forever yeah but i like i said he already figured it out this was way before
00:55:46.800
we met okay and then also you're assuming that i want kids which i feel like you know and then
00:55:52.080
you're also assuming there's this like power dynamic right but you don't know he's the man
00:55:56.160
of the house let me tell you something one of my best friends no no listen i've heard it all like
00:56:00.320
honestly like i could change my mind but however like i'm not saying i'm not providing but i'm not
00:56:04.960
telling you to change your mind i'm trying to tell you that i know personal a few people one of them
00:56:09.120
is my best friend that he was in a debating area right and he got married because he wanted to have
00:56:15.200
kids with a woman with a family and he said worst case scenario we get divorced after five or ten
00:56:20.000
years she's gonna raise the kids i have a lot of friends like that too wait i make wait a second i
00:56:24.160
make i make good money and she's gonna stay at home with the kids and the second thing that you said
00:56:28.400
you said it's okay i'm making the money you're not a man a woman it's not a man it's completely
00:56:33.040
different between men and a woman what you're doing it's not really matter it's it's matter what he does
00:56:38.160
because he's the one they're gonna give a role model to your man to your kids to your sons if you have
00:56:43.200
kids if you don't like it's really up to you it's your life like yeah that's what i was saying
00:56:48.240
you want to be with and that's the way you accept how old are you i'm 26 same as that's the problem
00:56:52.880
everybody think oh it's my life i do what i want it's up to you it's not right it's not correct to
00:56:57.600
think about your issue but what is correct my issue no no yeah let me clarify guys guys stop
00:57:03.680
there's been way too many people talking at one time one person needs to speak at one time go ahead
00:57:10.320
so when you're talking about someone who's questioning their sexuality are you talking about
00:57:16.080
like are you talking about gay men dating straight women are you talking about men who are in
00:57:21.520
relationships experimenting or like what are you talking about i'll explain exactly first of all for
00:57:26.800
me the word experimenting in that sense yeah it's showed that the person a little bit off it's not
00:57:33.600
normal and i'll explain why i know you all laughing because you grew up in this sorry to say but
00:57:39.040
pervert prostitute gay mentality this is all over the world now in europe in australia in england in
00:57:44.640
america all the women do what they want only fan porn it's all legitimate to do you can expose yourself
00:57:50.000
and it's normal even the parents don't say nothing right but that specific that specific subject when
00:57:56.080
you say experiment into a guy you cannot experiment on her behalf or her behalf or her behalf because
00:58:02.240
when he experimenting he can affect infect her with a disease he can damage her emotionally he can
00:58:08.880
bring her to a situation sexual situation when she's going to carry them to her 30s and her 40s and
00:58:14.320
she's going to think that it's normal he's going to normalize certain situation and it's completely
00:58:19.040
completely wrong when you say no we just experimented or she said oh anybody can do whatever they want
00:58:23.840
it's their life no it's not your life and it's not your body to do what you want because if you have
00:58:28.480
sorry to say that but i'm saying it to you if you did porn even if you like smart and you woke up
00:58:33.360
of it and you don't want to do it anymore if you have kids this thing gonna come back and hunt you
00:58:38.640
yeah i agree and put you in a really bad place so you can be a stripper a porn you can do whatever
00:58:44.080
crazy thing you want but in the end of the day if you decide and you sorry sorry grid one motorsports
00:58:51.200
donated two hundred dollars and one cent yeah thank you ladies the way it works is you turn
00:58:57.360
the men straight not the other way around stop being masculinity destroying feminist and use more
00:59:04.400
lip and tongue less teeth abdul you know what to do yeah i agree with what you're saying
00:59:10.800
is your mother with that mouth grid one thank you very much for the utt hold on hold on she's
00:59:19.280
going to finish her point then you can go then you can go go ahead so i'm not coming at you not at all
00:59:24.800
i see that you're very intelligent i'm so happy i'm proud of you for waking up i think after what you
00:59:30.400
did and what you've been i think you can really teach other women so i think it's it's good what you're
00:59:35.440
at but with that being said even to you you know uh i'm gonna answer your question you seem like a
00:59:42.320
beautiful and intelligent uh a human being and a good human being okay you know classical music you
00:59:49.680
know like everything you said about yourself and i can see that you're an experiment or transition and
00:59:55.520
you know like how you put your earrings and you know i'm not judging right yeah but i could see that
00:59:59.680
you're in this position that you're experimenting yeah i think if you really had somebody
01:00:05.280
in your close surrounding that reassure this point of this specific side in you like the the music
01:00:12.560
the classical music the intelligence you have the the real beauty that you have inside you wouldn't
01:00:18.160
need to be in this experiment you would just go to the place you're supposed to be you understand
01:00:23.760
because all of this transition in gay prostitution all these earrings all these things everything come
01:00:30.080
from a place that nobody give you guidings for who you are and what's your potential to be in this
01:00:34.800
life that's it okay your response and then you wanted to go so i agree with sort of like the the
01:00:40.960
core of what you're saying and i think you know the issue with with sort of women being very misguided
01:00:46.640
at the moment and being oh that's cool everyone experiment and i don't want kids and i can make
01:00:50.080
all the money and i can do this i think it's you know it's it's it's a result of modern feminism
01:00:55.200
that's gone way way way too far exactly and and i think the point that you were trying to make which
01:01:00.160
maybe not everyone may be understood at the table was that you do need a strong man to lead a family
01:01:05.040
and it's the result of not having strong father figures that we have everyone running around
01:01:09.280
doing only fans everyone running around not having kids everyone dressing like ridiculous and be and
01:01:14.160
acting like the worst men is now a feminist thing is to be like oh well i'm gonna pick the worst parts
01:01:19.840
of male culture and i'm gonna act like that and i'm gonna sleep with 20 people and you know you're saying
01:01:24.880
you actually answering what she said before she said oh it's okay if he's not gay and everything
01:01:30.080
when you pick the right man that he's a leader and strong and and a masculine man you're gonna have
01:01:37.600
a peace of mind in your life in your future yes i do think that is why sorry i'm agreeing with you i
01:01:43.440
think that is why earlier i misunderstood because that is what i have now but i when i thought about okay
01:01:50.000
if someone is kind of like you know thinking of having you know unprotected anal with another guy
01:01:57.280
then i would be very concerned but i feel you know secure he's a leader he's a you know masculine figure
01:02:04.400
whatever in the house like we are a team but i am the feminine he is the masculine so i you know i
01:02:11.360
honestly don't feel stressed and then you have you had something go ahead oh yeah so i think your main
01:02:17.280
issue is experimentation in relationship and like how dangerous that can be right you know if anyone's
01:02:23.520
having unprotected intercourse while in a relationship with you that's so unsafe no one's i'm not saying
01:02:30.480
that that's okay i'm just saying like if someone is wanting to experiment in a consensual way and they're
01:02:38.560
single and then later on you're in a monogamous relationship like i think that's okay like i don't
01:02:45.280
think that's like unsafe and also also i dress like this because i'm emo and i'm an artist and
01:02:53.760
not because i'm there's something wrong and and her favorite band is my chemical romance it's actually
01:02:59.600
pierce the veil okay so here here's what we're gonna do quick thing you have final word quick thing
01:03:06.160
and then i'm gonna move it on go ahead i just wanted to kind of ask you a little bit like do you
01:03:10.480
not believe in self-expression because i don't think everyone who dresses like that or like how
01:03:15.520
i dress or how anybody dresses means that we're confused sometimes i didn't talk about who we are
01:03:20.960
no no it's just an example like okay quick response on that and then final thing and then i got i'll
01:03:25.760
answer first of all i'm the first oh sorry go ahead sorry sorry so and then also too like do you not
01:03:32.240
believe that maybe you are stuck in like old time ways because now it's a new society it's a new
01:03:37.280
world so it's like they preach to be yourself do what you want to do put it out there have fun you
01:03:43.680
know yeah and yes this is not this is not new this these are not exactly that's what i wanted to say
01:03:50.720
and not only that some of these themes are timeless can i like do you do you think that you think in the
01:03:55.600
1970s when there was a bunch of bra burning lunatic all over all over exactly the uh the lawn of these
01:04:02.880
different uh universities preaching free sex love and drugs that this wasn't like all out let's have
01:04:08.560
fun it's all about whatever you want girl you go i mean all that 90s you go girl uh into the 80s which
01:04:15.920
was a different form of girl power no these are timeless themes nothing there's nothing new under the
01:04:21.120
son exactly this is uh this is very old can i answer her go ahead uh andrew so first of all
01:04:27.840
what i i'm gonna refer to what andrew say when i grew up okay you saw madonna doing crazy things
01:04:35.440
right you saw like the the biggest porn star what's her name the one lovelace linda lovelace you had
01:04:40.720
like like crazy a porn more than now and women got exploded more than now it was fashionable to to
01:04:47.040
dress half naked i heard that by the way that david allen co made linda lovelace
01:04:50.960
gag what what ah yeah and also he made her sleep with a dog yeah but anyway go ahead yeah so listen
01:04:58.320
it's got nothing to do with age because you can age in your in your id right but your inside is
01:05:05.120
always stay the same especially somebody like me who's super evolved and in the beauty industry and
01:05:10.480
in a mental health industry like when i you know do a lot of public speaking it's got nothing to do with
01:05:16.720
age this is something that young girl said oh i know what i'm talking about because when you're in your
01:05:20.320
20s and 30s you think you you know it all and you know better than older people and it's the exact
01:05:24.880
opposite i've been in your age you haven't been in my age second thing it's okay to experiment i did
01:05:30.800
experiment i was actually doing a lot of things i was an actress for 20 years i was singing i did three
01:05:36.400
soundtrack for for movies in my country i did a lot of things and i you see how i dress i'm not super
01:05:41.760
conservative i like to be a little bit sexy and flirty but it always has to be a limit right when you sell
01:05:47.920
yourself out there for i give example with that girl sorry without being offended she's gorgeous
01:05:52.640
look at her face she's gorgeous right and she loves classical music and everything but what does she do
01:05:57.440
she represent herself in a certain way the people she doesn't know what's going on in the world you
01:06:02.480
you girls don't understand that out there in the world it's so many predators they just wait for
01:06:07.440
women that look vulnerable mentally and physically and if you don't have the capacity in your brain
01:06:13.200
and she would know exactly what i'm talking about when they see that you expose yourself and put
01:06:17.440
yourself out there they're going to do things to you that you don't even understand today it's not
01:06:22.320
just for organs they can kidnap you for sexual exploitation for prostitution for so many things
01:06:28.720
when you look vulnerable and over sexual immediately they figure out that you had a a daddy problems or how
01:06:35.120
in the house you had problems with your mother or dominated mother they just from looking everyone in
01:06:40.240
each of you i can tell you where you come from and probably where you're going to go without sounding
01:06:44.560
impotentious right and she probably understood i can see that you understand that because what
01:06:48.880
you did where have you been been had that full cycle and then come back yeah you don't know where
01:06:54.480
the rest of us yeah i'm like what respectfully i i don't know if you're the wisest person in this room
01:07:02.560
i don't think i'm the wisest person in this room so i'm not a wise person is an opinion but you're
01:07:07.040
presenting i'm the wisest person yeah it's like you're taking i'm not saying statements but then
01:07:13.440
actually you didn't understand what objective yeah can i tell you what i meant because i think
01:07:19.200
first of all i think you're taking it way too personally second of all i what i meant exactly
01:07:23.600
i'll try to explain it with my english better i think that any person who is sort of my age
01:07:30.080
any person who is in my age right 40 and up right can see people that they're younger and
01:07:35.760
already kind of figure out what's going on of course you understand it's your body language
01:07:40.400
is the way you speak it's how you carry yourself it's a lot of little things that you cannot pick
01:07:45.360
up obviously because you haven't been my age and i already have been in your age without sounding
01:07:49.120
potentious but i do have one quick question to follow up that have you ever considered that maybe
01:07:54.240
this is all a brand a what sorry a brand the way that you present yourself especially i see a lot of
01:08:00.640
female entrepreneurs of course there's a benefit to of course but that's that's exactly what you're
01:08:06.640
saying listen to this because it's important what you're saying right now yes this is the biggest
01:08:10.720
exploitation for women in this country in america specifically and i'll tell you why because a lot
01:08:15.760
of these artists don't want to be okay i have a lot of friends that they are super big producers
01:08:19.920
in the rap industry i know a lot of people me too i know a lot of okay no i'm just telling you
01:08:23.840
a lot of them looking for women like this so they know they're inspiring actors or singers and they
01:08:29.680
want to do things and they're over sexual and you know what eighty percent of these girls who want to
01:08:34.400
be rappers and a little bit good looking and have a talent or a good voice end up being their mattress
01:08:39.920
for all the industry and maybe one of them have lucky to become famous and even then she's becoming
01:08:47.120
in the same circle when she gets to her 40s she's not relevant anymore because she did so many tattoos
01:08:52.960
become like exploded with her clothes and everything when she's in her 40 and 50s when
01:08:57.120
people want to see you serious you already expired that's my point hopefully at that point you're
01:09:01.440
already financially free though it doesn't matter money money money doesn't money doesn't replace
01:09:06.560
values that's the problem with your mentality with american mentality those people they're doing it
01:09:11.360
because their values money wait money doesn't replace values you can have all the money in your
01:09:17.120
world listen you can be a multi-millionaire when you're 50 years old sitting in your in your
01:09:21.600
mansion when you slept with hundreds of guys exploded your body all over the place full of
01:09:26.800
tattoos looking like correct already be used and abused but you have all the money but nobody would
01:09:31.600
want to be with you because you're not relevant but i honestly feel like that's why social media
01:09:35.840
is kind of like a good thing in a way because it's like now you have the platform where it doesn't
01:09:39.760
matter your age it doesn't matter how you dress it just matters like what you bring to the table
01:09:44.720
how is it relevant to what i said i think what she means is that like it's because you're saying
01:09:50.080
that like okay well just tell me what you said again hold on hold on hold on i mean i i'm going
01:09:56.080
to move things on a little bit here red green says by far the wildest persistent double standard on the
01:10:00.320
show are bi women like pink shirt in the middle who say it's okay for them they themselves to be by
01:10:09.040
and experiment but won't date by men oh wait you're by um i like i don't okay i experimented i don't
01:10:17.200
really like girls like i would never marry a woman but i don't really experiment either like i love men
01:10:23.360
but i'm saying i have tried but me personally i do not like i won't i wouldn't date a guy that just
01:10:29.600
likes guys like i just wouldn't do it i'm sorry it's a turn off for me but i don't mind let's be
01:10:33.760
here's the other thing to the chatter to the chatter's point lesbians aren't real so they're
01:10:39.680
not real it's not a real thing like it's it's totally a fake thing like let's be real it's it's
01:10:45.040
not real trees that might be a little we're we might be getting a little tos there just i don't
01:10:51.680
think so i mean i think it's this is a phenomenon quite a bit but okay i think therefore i am i've
01:10:58.000
actually i've actually been super this is maybe a tangent but i've actually been super curious the whole
01:11:03.280
time like andrew what are your thoughts on like i think therefore i am what because a few previous
01:11:11.120
few previous ones um episodes i have seen people say like you know i feel this i believe this this
01:11:17.520
is real to me but then like you're saying lesbians are not real so i'm like i'm just curious
01:11:23.600
what do i think if i think therefore i am i think if you don't does that mean that if you don't think
01:11:34.240
you are not what wait that's actually my question to you just from seeing different episodes and then
01:11:40.320
also today getting we have a little what do you say poo poo time bro don't if a chat comes up i will read
01:11:47.360
it disregard the chat go ahead okay i lost my train of thought i think it was like the previous episodes
01:11:53.760
there were a few where it was like you it sounded like you didn't agree with someone essentially saying
01:12:00.640
i think therefore i am and then today you're saying lesbians are not real so are we supposed to just
01:12:06.480
take yeah no what i mean by that so let me just explain what i mean by that so that you understand
01:12:10.800
is that i think that the preference uh when women end up with women i seem to see a lot more women
01:12:17.840
who are in that situation go back to men than i see it the other way i see okay like an overwhelming
01:12:25.360
amount who seem to end up going the other way whereas men uh there's many of them who seem to stay
01:12:32.560
with men their entire lives and that's all they they ever prefer but women who who end up in kind of
01:12:38.080
these long-term same-sex relationships i see them mostly going back to men and so that's what i mean
01:12:42.640
by that it's a by the way this is something which is discussed in these lgbtq communities uh non-stop they
01:12:50.080
talk about it non-stop it's a real phenomenon and uh there's all sorts of theories as to why but yeah
01:12:56.000
it's discussed quite often that is true yeah it's true all right um here i'll pull up the chat here
01:13:05.120
uh got pooped how come when it's poopoo time it's also pp time but when it's pp time it is isn't
01:13:14.240
always poopoo time a question for the philosophers uh thank you uh booped appreciate it that was that
01:13:21.120
was uh beautiful uh going back to the notes here tanya you said i believe a man should have the
01:13:26.000
ability to financially support and provide for their partner before entering a committed relationship
01:13:32.560
yeah and emphasis on committed because because a lot of men like to date but they might not have
01:13:41.040
you know like financial means to be in a position to be in a committed relationship
01:13:46.960
and that's okay not everybody has it you know let's like i mean oh go ahead no i was just saying
01:13:53.920
um to be in a committed relationship like there's a lot of requirements on both ends like
01:13:57.760
as a woman you have to bring a lot to the table and a man you have to bring a lot to the table
01:14:03.600
yeah there's different requirements there's a lot to explore there so you said as a woman you got to
01:14:08.160
bring a lot to the table as a man you got to bring a lot to the table let's first explore what a man
01:14:12.560
has to bring to the table so what does a man have to bring to the table that's a different
01:14:15.920
question for everybody because every girl has a different standard well let's talk about yours then so i do
01:15:21.160
Like, around then. And you said you bring a lot
01:15:44.820
that's what you're going to get from your partner.
01:15:47.380
Because I think you misinterpreted the question.
01:15:59.060
Because you said what women bring is A, B, C, and D.
01:16:16.500
I bring aspects of being an anchor to my partner.
02:00:07.360
her ability as a mother not the according well I
02:07:24.520
maybe I'm a little detached and I apologize for
02:07:27.180
that but when we were talking about should a man
02:10:06.000
that aside they're not many billionaires did any
02:11:08.560
half a year like summer to like early summer and
02:11:33.320
so at this point yes it was not on the vacation it
02:11:39.380
was actually before the vacation because I felt that he gave me a lot of
02:11:43.060
feeling of like reliability and honesty he would talk to me about a lot of stuff
02:11:47.620
that was troubling him that I think like you owe him something no no no like
02:11:52.340
purely I just felt safe chill you know just really feeling the vibes feeling like
02:11:57.460
attracted to this guy well we can get into that later but I do want to finish up
02:12:01.540
kind of what I was originally trying to get at here so I was going I was asking the table
02:12:07.300
if men should be doing xyz should women have some sort of corresponding should so should women
02:12:16.340
not be involved in sex work should women be virgins should women be submissive
02:12:21.840
and I don't know do you have a thought on this do you how about just should women be submissive
02:12:28.120
to their man uh if he's being like a hundred percent loyal then yes okay I think women should be
02:12:38.120
submissive for their men that's what I like in my relationship to be submissive okay what about you
02:12:44.500
the same goes for me so yes the woman should be submissive I think this is the most attractive thing
02:12:51.760
um okay and then let me see where you missed uh Kydra and Kami with a question Kybra
02:13:02.000
I think they no I was yapping already should women be submissive um I don't like making absolute blanket
02:13:12.020
well remind me what's your position when it comes to men providing should men provide I honestly didn't like
02:13:20.860
that blanket statement either that's fair should men provide so to that question I think I've I'm
02:13:29.180
starting starting to now realize that I've only really come across men who already have this capacity
02:13:34.060
to provide however a lot of the reasons why I didn't want to marry the previous guys obviously it was
02:13:39.820
because emotionally and mentally I feel like they were not at the the threshold and should women be
02:13:45.980
submissive yeah so I think it's not that clear because um I would say that a couple is like a team
02:13:53.960
so if one person is strong in every single way financially emotionally mentally they're leading in
02:14:00.960
every single way like why like you know why would they choose you just being totally honest because I
02:14:06.880
know these people do exist out there but why would they choose you you know what are you offering
02:14:11.340
so I feel like actually it's kind of not as clear as dominant and submissive but like maybe you know
02:14:17.160
let's say financially family like my man is leading but the emotionally mentally and our like kind of
02:14:23.580
like mental health goals or you know lifestyle goals I actually lead and I do enjoy that because
02:14:30.540
it's pretty rewarding and we all know that you know some things let's say lifestyle I make better
02:14:35.860
decisions for the team and financially my man makes better financial decisions would be your thoughts
02:14:42.020
yeah I think it's um it's a great thing to bring to the table but it's not an absolute deal breaker for
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me okay I mean just I guess my final thoughts on this and society and men have long since long since
02:14:57.440
deemed that expecting a woman to fit the housewife role Harold conversate donated $200 I'm so glad I
02:15:07.740
found a girl to marry that has a single digit body count and a head that could fit through a standard
02:15:12.840
door frame she also makes a great sandwich Harold thank you very much for the uh the tts minute uh I
02:15:20.620
appreciate it so uh society it's long since deemed that expecting a woman to fit the housewife role
02:15:26.860
in a relationship is unacceptable and sexist women can fit into that role but should they be expected
02:15:32.800
to it's seems like society is saying this expectation of women to fall into the submissive
02:15:38.700
housewife role is uh wrong and sexist but for some reason women still hold men to their sort of own
02:15:47.060
sexist uh expectations of what a man should be which is to be a provider and a protector which is a
02:15:53.820
traditional gender role so there's this expectation men must adhere even to feminist women what we have
02:16:00.800
the most degenerate women who come on the show who are hyper feminist liberal woke progressive
02:16:06.460
sex workers prostitutes oh but I still want the man to be traditional and be masculine and all these
02:16:14.840
things so it's just interesting to me double standard um here we're gonna get into some uh some other
02:16:21.480
stuff here so let's see we have Carly Davenport let's bring in Rachel to put these women straight
02:16:27.660
please hey Carly thank you very much for this super chat much appreciated I think a Rachel Rachel cameo
02:16:32.380
would be uh very cool tonight but uh I'll leave that to uh Rachel and Andrew Frank the Tank coming in
02:16:38.860
here in just a sec and then we're gonna pull up twitch here in just a sec too okay Frank the Tank
02:16:43.760
Andrew if you can bring out the wife to bring some perspective if not the the to the girls excuse me we
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want a woman who will take care of our children and not fuck them up it's quite simple Frank the
02:16:53.340
Tank thank you very much for your message man really appreciate it thank you thank you and then uh
02:16:58.860
let's she says give her a few and she'll come on for a bit okay well I'll get her right I'll get her
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in on uh kind of a good moment here uh can we get twitch pulled up guys go to twitch.tv slash whatever
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02:17:26.820
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that out okay uh let's see here we have Gorlock the oh I'll read this from Jeff Brian your brand
02:17:43.200
of humor has me in stitches every time I love it so much don't ever change yo Jeff thank you very
02:17:47.980
much for the kind words man uh really appreciate your message and thank you for the uh donation thank
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you Gorlock the destroyer ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of one to ten you can't pick
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seven starting with you go ahead I'm a ten all right what about you um I'm gonna go with eight
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okay uh 7.5 all right I'll do 7.5 10 I'll say six I'd say eight I think five I give myself a five
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Andrew what about you I'm a ten okay so we have two tens at the table um interesting wait wait what's so
02:18:29.020
funny you don't think so no I was saying there should be more tens at the table right where's
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this yeah no I don't know I said I was a ten and suddenly you guys thought that that was really
02:18:37.980
funny no no no I'm I'm happy that you're a ten I'm like it's almost like you don't believe me it's
02:18:42.820
almost like you don't believe that I'm a ten no I'm I laugh because he said there's only two tens at
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the table I think there's more I look you are a ten you should be a ten you know I'm glad you think
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you're a ten I'm not laughing at you I wasn't laughing at you I was saying I think you rated yourself
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zero I feel like you guys don't I'm looking at the age is it because is it because I'm an old
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man is that why is it because I'm old you're not old you're a really good looking for your age
02:19:05.500
you this is like when that lady was like oh is it because I'm fat like no one's saying this what
02:19:09.940
are you talking about I don't know I think you're a ten by the way no no you're loved it's all it's all
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vibes all right so we have uh a couple tens here that's uh always always interesting
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um I do find it interesting that people come on here and say ten if you've seen the podcast and
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you know what's gonna happen to you if you call yourself a ten I don't know I don't have the
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balls to say that it's ridiculous would you lay down your morals for fear of repercussion would you
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would you lay down it's got nothing to do it's got nothing to do are you so weak-willed and lacking
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of character that you would come on here it's a moral position that you're a ten what that's
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that's a moral op that you're a ten I'm being dramatic I'm rallying the troops I'm being dramatic
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okay listen it's got nothing to do with morals you know you will not compromise your morality we are
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tens at this table sorry sorry when when a woman doesn't have an outside perspective and she thinks
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she's a ten when nobody sees her as a ten it means she doesn't have a sincere conversation with
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herself so even if you're a ten you not say that you're not gonna say you're eight and you're not
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gonna say you're a ten what do you say you give the lowest number because you let people say it
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about you you're not gonna say it about yourself usually women they say that they're a ten they
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have a very low self-esteem and nobody give it to them so they have to give it to themselves
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I feel like that's an opinion yeah you think eight is low that's an opinion it's not low it's high
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I mean sorry you think eight is high I think that's an opinion most women are not high I think
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nine and ten is like for sure high but it could be like it's like yeah I can back it up on this
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10 10 it's Cindy Crawford when she was young 10 it's Stephanie Seymour can I say something wait let me
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pick seven 10 it's Stephanie Seymour young 10 it's Linda Evangelista young 10 it's Christy
02:21:04.560
Terlington when she was young none of the girls here with all due respect she's gorgeous but she's
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still compared to the girls here she's 10 but nobody here is my question what is an average woman look
02:21:15.920
like like an average woman so average would be five what does an average woman so so if every
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woman who comes on this podcast is a is a seven eight nine or ten exactly right what the hell does
02:21:29.740
an average woman look like all of us I feel like beauty is in the eye of the beholder so whatever
02:21:34.820
you think is beautiful that's what you think you rate yourself whatever that standard is for what you
02:21:39.360
consider to be beautiful somebody's going to fall with threshold of what average is right I feel
02:21:44.120
like even if you're bad looking if you're confident and you look good to yourself you're going to come
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across more beautiful now you're like oh I'm really pretty but let me tell everybody I'm not that cute
02:21:53.920
you're going to look like you have low self-esteem I'm going to concede all these points right like
02:21:57.740
that doesn't make you glow that makes you diminished I have one important point unattractive to men
02:22:03.400
if you go around saying and I've done it in the past you know been like oh I look great and then my
02:22:08.620
partner's just like oh okay well I guess I won't compliment you then and you know I don't think it's a very
02:22:13.460
attractive thing to men for women to to parade that I think if they are just you don't have to
02:22:18.640
say you're ugly but if you're just slightly more modest thank you well just be humble but don't
02:22:23.100
like not cherish yourself just but I want to I want to give you guys I want to give you guys an
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example don't be afraid of yourself yeah like what I'm just gonna jump in for a second it'll get right
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back to you I promise I have not been interrupting you uh Shalise uh is that is that your name
02:22:37.660
Shalise yeah okay okay I got it right so I'm sorry I write everybody's name down and sometimes
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I mess them up uh I agree with you that beauty is subjective uh or in the eye of the beholder right
02:22:49.240
there's going to be some people who find some traits more beautiful than others and etc etc
02:22:52.960
but from your subjective standard that would still lead to some people are really beautiful and some
02:22:58.540
aren't right even from your standard or it's just everybody beautiful from your standard I feel
02:23:04.340
like everybody has beauty within them but no everybody's not beautiful like beautiful physically
02:23:08.740
then what does an average person wait an average woman from your standard look like Austin hold on
02:23:13.960
I have the perfect photo to to tackle this like beauteous objective bullshit but can we get the photo
02:23:20.780
pulled up yeah it's that you know the girl who's we've been meaning to pull it up can we get it quick
02:23:28.120
please I I one sec guys uh make it like um so okay beauty is subjective beauty is subjective now like
02:23:42.000
I'm just curious the entire male population of the world which woman the woman on the left or the woman
02:23:55.280
pretty much all men in the world if they had to pick one just do you have a do you have a guess so
02:24:04.840
let's go around the table guess is it the woman on the left or the woman on the right this is right the
02:24:13.980
the skinny white woman okay so woman on the left the the blonde
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which one um I knew coming on here that there'd be some questions that I wouldn't be able to
02:24:28.920
participate in because I would be going against like my values and so what what values what values
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my number one value is of acceptance and so for me to come on here and compare these yeah you can
02:24:43.420
accept one woman is less attractive than the other I don't know that is acceptance you can accept that
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one woman is more attractive but I want to give an example no I'd rather finish my point go ahead
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um I'm all about I'm all about kindness and I don't think I think that if that girl was watching
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this and she heard me say that that wouldn't be very kind so I'm not going to participate in this
02:25:08.500
question she's she's dead she's dead what I don't know what you're saying she's dead
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yeah but she's I'm trying to just bro it doesn't matter she's not going to hear the shit
02:25:23.840
but you've answered the question by saying you think her answer would be the answer would be
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unkind you don't have to be politically correct wait you gotta stay for this question hold on I'm
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going around the table just stay okay thank you for understanding you gotta answer this question come
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on I will not compromise yeah I don't I don't so I think that that's fair if uh somebody asks you
02:25:46.520
to compromise your morals in some way I think it's totally fair to say that you won't can you tell
02:25:51.240
me what moral you'd be compromising here my moral of acceptance I want to be an artist who makes
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people feel seen I want to make people feel accepted I don't want do you accept neo-nazis
02:26:01.940
well that's the thing with free speech right it's like there's reason I just asked you a question
02:26:07.440
do you accept neo-nazis I accept that they exist no do you accept their ideology
02:26:12.460
she probably doesn't know what not uh no you you don't I'm not PR trained for this it sure seems
02:26:22.920
like a paradox of values in this is called the paradox of acceptance no it's not that you accept
02:26:29.660
everybody or everything just like right now when I asked you if you accept this you say no of course
02:26:35.360
not and why would you right it's heinous right it's absolutely heinous it is very heinous so the
02:26:40.260
thing is is like it's it's a it's a complete paradox uh to say well wait I I want to accept
02:26:46.080
everybody but then when I ask well you will you accept this heinous group you say no it's like
02:26:49.960
you nobody's asking to compromise a single value here thanks thanks for first of all saying it's
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okay to like not want to compromise on values I just don't want to promote like comparison and
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like this idea of like one thing is better than another she's yes you do literally I literally
02:27:06.700
just demonstrated that you do because by you say okay well then let me just ask you right um the
02:27:13.540
stalinist regime of communists do you think that they are better than the western capitalist regime of
02:27:21.340
america I don't know you don't know okay so do you think that the nazi party is is better
02:27:29.220
than um the american capitalist regime I mean this is sort of out of the scope of the question
02:27:34.900
we're just I don't think so I think I'd like an answer because you're making a moral claim and so
02:27:39.320
I can make a hypothetical to test the moral claim and I'm testing it right now by saying okay if I
02:27:45.600
point to you uh you know this uh this geocidal I can't even say the word on YouTube right but if I
02:27:51.400
point out this group over here are you really going to say that you accept them as much as the other
02:27:55.300
group really no that's not what I'm gonna say but I know but as a as as a human living in an
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imperfect world I am I accept there's imperfections because there's only one perfect thing and it's
02:28:07.340
God and so like I understand that to have free will sometimes bad things are part of this world
02:28:15.120
and I don't have control over them I guarantee you this girl jokes with her like girlfriends and if
02:28:20.620
they see like a dusty looking dude they're like talking mad fucking shit about him bro well not
02:28:27.220
only that it's worse though because you didn't really give me an answer yes I get it uh yes it's
02:28:32.900
it's sad the world is sad and there's lots of bad things in the world that's terrible but when asked
02:28:37.680
between two groups and one that you find to be hideous you say no I won't accept that group
02:28:43.080
right okay that's fair and you know what I wouldn't either right hideous heinous group right
02:28:48.040
whatever it's Andrew right yeah it's Andrew okay so two things okay you caught me right
02:28:54.400
there's some there's certain things it's like what you said with obedience right you don't obey if a
02:29:01.080
man is like if your husband's telling you to like go jump to your death right like you wouldn't ask
02:29:05.520
someone to sin like there's there's limits to everything right and so like what but I'm just
02:29:10.460
trying to determine the the actual value that's limited so let me just ask you this instead I'll ask
02:29:16.640
you a completely different question related to this one yes subjectively okay oh well actually
02:29:22.580
you know what let me just ask you this one first do you usually tell the truth honesty is another
02:29:28.000
one of my values I do my best and do you so you don't like to lie right correct because that would
02:29:33.740
go against your values correct correct subjectively in your own brain can do you make a value judgment
02:29:41.020
between the beauty of these two people go ahead and lie to me subjectively in my brain yes I do make a
02:29:46.960
it okay great then tell us which one from the subjectivity in your brain you give that value to
02:29:53.460
well see that's the thing is I I know that I'm not perfect and so that's why I say now it's a lie of
02:30:00.320
omission because you've told us that you do make a judgment of course I do you just won't tell us what
02:30:05.060
it is listen guys I'm not mother Teresa right I'm not perfect I'm just I I admit yes there's certain
02:30:12.120
I do like I do judge things certain certain things and I wish I didn't I wish I was I wish I was
02:30:18.440
perfect I wish I was asking that subjective standpoint of which one you do judge as being
02:30:22.600
better looking than the other one which one is it that's all I'm asking you I understand that's
02:30:26.740
what you're asking me I'm not saying I'm not making a judgment I'm saying that I will not share that
02:30:30.640
judgment wait I have a question okay um we will go around the table but um have you ever seen a
02:30:39.560
beautiful girl with a mid guy there's a lot of Adam Sandler movies you guys ever seen an Adam Sandler
02:30:52.980
movie I love I mean like sure there's movies or whatever I just mean in real life um is this
02:31:00.120
is this to is this to trick me oh just asking you a question have you ever seen a beautiful girl
02:31:06.940
with a mid guy I mean I know I said I don't like to make judgments so I don't really know how to
02:31:13.520
answer this it's unfortunate I did not ask this question prior to having shown the photo or asked
02:31:20.300
the rating the 10 question wait because hold on but hold on you're lying so she's lying right you're
02:31:25.700
lying through omission because you just said you want to answer the question is yes but you just
02:31:30.920
caught yourself and said but if I do answer the question as yes then that would uh previously
02:31:36.020
contradict my previous statement that I don't make these value judgments so that so you just said I
02:31:40.400
just don't I just won't answer even though I know the answer look I didn't say I don't make these
02:31:45.880
judgments I just don't try to make judgments and like share them you know I don't like that I make
02:31:53.440
these judgments how does that compromise the value of honesty though that's a lie of omission when
02:31:57.100
you're asked she's politically correct that's the problem guys I'm not do you know what do you know
02:32:03.480
what a lie of omission is it's where you know the answer to the thing no there's there's uh there's a
02:32:09.900
reason why you can like plead the fifth right so not answering is is a valid yeah to the government
02:32:15.440
this isn't a court of law there's no fifth amendment here you don't you can't smoke the fifth what are
02:32:21.900
you talking about Brian get your gavel and your robe Brian so that he could rule whether or not
02:32:27.920
you complete the fifth like what um so look all I was just trying to say there before was that
02:32:34.680
if I had asked this question to the whole panel if you've seen a beautiful woman with a mid guy
02:32:41.360
all of you would have giggled and said yes which would indicate to me that you are perfectly
02:32:46.940
prepared to make comparisons when it comes to men but you don't like this distinction you don't
02:32:53.780
like making this comparison in any case I'm rather uh I'm rather bored by your reluctance to answer
02:33:02.760
this question so I'm just going to move it on thank you I'm going to have the rest of the panel answer
02:33:06.540
the question though which one's more attractive can I see it again that went on for so long I
02:33:11.060
actually forgot okay okay left or right um my personal aesthetic fits more with the left so I'm
02:33:37.980
I'm not answering damn you're far as fuck from the mic too can you kindly get close to the mic
02:33:47.380
I'm next to the mic but I don't care to answer this question because I just don't want to I
02:33:54.100
literally just don't want to so let's skip I just don't care to okay can I say say and also say
02:34:04.400
something else is that because I'm waiting for a long time answer the question first I think the
02:34:12.960
right girl is ugly and the left girl is gorgeous wait I mean anybody can see she's ugly come on why
02:34:20.460
you're so politically correct why like it's so weird what does this have to do with because she's
02:34:25.900
ugly as hell because she's so ugly and you guys don't hesitating not to say the truth one ugly and
02:34:32.440
one pretty that's it why this isn't political yeah politically correct not political I mean why not
02:34:38.680
to say the truth why to lie in the politically correct hold on I mean even I kind of disagree
02:34:43.400
with you Sheena we don't we don't even need to be rude to the one on the right by saying she's ugly
02:34:50.220
right but I don't even feel that that's even necessary we can simply the most tactful way of
02:34:56.940
going about saying this is the one on the left is more attractive that was the question sorry I'm
02:35:02.900
not politically well that's fine but can I can I please say something that I'm waiting I'm giving
02:35:09.500
you 30 seconds please make it quick okay if you look at commercials from the 70s and the 80s you see
02:35:16.400
the most gorgeous people on the on the commercials and the media today because of the name of being
02:35:22.700
politically correct and trying to to walk on eggshells by giving everybody equality with the look and
02:35:29.340
everybody can be a star everybody beautiful everybody this and everybody that we on TV we
02:35:33.840
see only ugly people in the commercials in the in the media and the gorgeous girl get pushed aside
02:35:38.540
because sorry but every overweight girl or ugly girl that they want to be politically correct to her
02:35:43.800
they put her on TV and to me it's repulsive not everybody a star not everybody beautiful not
02:35:49.460
everybody smart people are different from one another and I'm sorry just accept it stop being so
02:35:54.420
hypocrite and double standard and politically correct I don't like it sorry I truly think this
02:36:01.780
is coming from a place of privilege in a sense because I agreed with the first part actually like
02:36:06.600
yes not everyone is a star privileged however however if you've lived in western countries as a
02:36:14.280
person of color it is so important talking about my grandfather is black my whole left hand is injured
02:36:19.700
because I damaged it in a terror attack if I go with short sleeve people look at me like I'm a
02:36:23.920
cripple what what are you talking about but people been judging me before all my life for being short
02:36:29.540
but it's okay this is who I am I don't care when people even if people tell me you look like plastic
02:36:34.040
surgery which I hear it all the day in the in the media oh look at you fake boobs fake clips fake
02:36:38.880
this and that I don't care yeah people can say whatever they want and it's their opinion I don't get
02:36:43.520
offended I'm not saying you should care I'm just saying it's a big it is what it is for you to dismiss the
02:36:48.400
representation of people of color in commercials now because they do not have that did I say
02:36:52.920
color I that was that I said people you said you said in the 70s and the 80s the commercials had
02:36:58.340
beautiful people they only had white people I never said the word color you said I'm like is that not
02:37:02.400
true I come from a family the half of my family is really black my grandfather is Ethiopian I never
02:37:07.580
mentioned this way towards I never did I said like just generally better wait did I said the word black
02:37:13.420
be political be correct did I say the word I'm just saying I never said the word black this is
02:37:18.820
in your head this is what you're thinking you're thinking that color people I didn't talk about
02:37:23.240
before they show people that they're dark let me finish my sentence I don't think she was saying
02:37:29.560
that black I never said black like something about black women not being in commercials and stuff
02:37:33.620
more days it's like it's more beautiful like I meant over a way I think she's just saying in general
02:37:40.240
like now okay it's all different types of body shapes exactly people yeah that's what she means
02:37:45.480
but I do think your delivery is a little harsh sometimes okay so actually yeah just to kind of
02:37:51.040
going to do I actually was not thinking of specifically black people yes you did because
02:37:55.280
listen listen you don't know me at all I was thinking of Asian people because you know the do you know
02:38:02.140
the level of how much Hollywood has impacted racial discrimination against Asian people in
02:38:10.180
America now okay I'm gonna be honest oh my god now the people the Asian people who are going to
02:38:16.400
Hollywood yes maybe they're not you know like um the Victoria's Secret models I'm not talking about
02:38:20.740
Asian people or black people however I'm talking about wait wait wait you're taking opportunity the
02:38:25.940
whole show from the beginning you're taking everything personally I'm not talking personally
02:38:30.220
I'm not taking I'm mixed my grandmother is Russian my grandfather is Ethiopian my mom
02:38:33.840
African from Morocco and I'm born in Israel I'm Muslim and I'm Jewish so I'm the last one to be
02:38:39.000
racist I'm talking in general I don't care where the person come from they can be black white
02:38:43.160
short or or tall for me I care that you see the most ugly girls that don't take hair out of
02:38:48.200
their armpits or their legs or their eyebrows and they're in a commercial presenting as a
02:38:52.360
beautiful or a makeup model why not taking beautiful girl like her a beautiful girl like
02:38:56.560
her and put them in commercial I don't care the racism you you push it to the races which brand I
02:39:01.780
mean and maybe I don't know brand okay honestly I think that might be their brand value that's their
02:39:06.660
target market it's not value it's the liberalism the radical liberalism and radical feminism
02:39:12.980
brought that agenda to the media because they scared that people are gonna say oh my god
02:39:18.100
this fat girl get offended oh my god this guy get offended why to be scared that they get
02:39:23.760
offended and let to put all the most ugly people out there if I'm selling something to a target
02:39:28.940
audience I would want to make it appealing to that audience but it's not like that I'm telling you
02:39:35.500
if you don't believe me go to YouTube look at the commercial from the 70s 80s 60s it was people
02:39:41.440
from all colors okay maybe less black than today maybe less Asian maybe less Asian and black but
02:39:48.760
still that you had I want to be in a world when the star is a star that the smart is a smart not
02:39:54.920
everybody mish mish all the men and no it's not a fantasy that's reality because no not every man
02:39:59.780
every man that want to dress like a woman can go to the bathroom and pretend to be a woman and lie
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to himself and force to society force us to call a man with a penis that he's a woman I refuse to
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live in a world like that if it's a man go to a man bathroom if if the girl is overweight live in
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this world though excuse me I live in this world way no I live in this world way you can move to a
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traditional no I know there's no traditional country there's no traditional country all really
02:40:27.840
I heard Saudi Arabia was like pretty conservative and yeah the conservative but if you go to the nightlife
02:40:32.280
in the in two o'clock in the morning to private parties have you been in Saudi Arabia I actually
02:40:37.580
have not exactly I've been when you go to Saudi Arabia in two o'clock in the morning behind closed
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doors they do things that here they don't even dream so spare me the bullshit from all over the
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world people can be hypocrites and in the bedroom they do crazy donated two hundred dollars okay okay
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okay okay okay okay okay okay I think it's been 30 seconds okay thank you uh Gerald good to see you in
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the chat I appreciate it um I'm gonna move things on here uh we have a lot to get through so for the
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sake of uh trying to not be here forever I want to try to get through everything um let's see
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here um okay by the way hello Brian welcome Rachel good to have you thank you for the cameo thank you
02:41:24.800
thank you good to see you I was summoned so um do we have a seat are you able to raise the seat up a
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little bit Andrew raised it as high as it goes I'll just try to sit tall there we go perfect pretend
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I'm taller perfect thank you Rachel um you know what Rachel actually I want us to get into
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one of the girls here um well as she gets up uh you want it okay yeah yeah that's fine that's fine
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that's fine uh let me just see if there's anything while we're doing that okay well
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let's see one sec I'll get into more of the notes then one moment here
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uh you how do you say your name cabra cabra it's like the word cabra are you in a cult
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no I'm catholic you are yeah oh because I saw you were like on your instagram we you had a photo
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with a girl who's been on the show before and she's in a cult oh my god dude so I was like no
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are you in the cult she literally she just made that up oh okay all right whatever uh a witch cult
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or some shit she's just doing it to be funny I guess I don't know what the fuck is going on okay um
02:42:39.380
you said one time your boyfriend told you that he probably wouldn't love you if you were a warm
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worm very honest relationship yeah yeah I've heard about this worm thing can you just explain it for
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yours so there's this thing going around where you ask your boyfriend your significant other like
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would you love me as a worm and so I was like oh would you love me as a worm and they're like I
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don't know like you'd be a worm I would like you as a worm and there's this even deeper one where it's
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like if a wizard came in one day and turned you into a cat and your partner knew that eventually you
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would turn back into a human but it could be like 10 years you know you just don't know when
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like would they stick around with you and he said I would take care of you like I'd have you as a pet
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but I'd probably date other people and I was like what but honestly it ended up yeah it ended up being a
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really good relationship like it's he's very honest um and there's awesome can you take it sorry go
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oh yeah thank you um and it wasn't like it wasn't that like oh because he told me he wouldn't love
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me as a worm like he's like this honest person and like never lies and better than all these people
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like you know we still we lie to protect ourselves like he still lied a little bit but it set realistic
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expectations like I never I felt like I could really trust him okay I I don't know if the worm
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thing is um I'll maybe maybe we can come back to it time permitting uh Austin can you there's there
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we're gonna get into some of the tweets I didn't get to show you this before the show but there's a ton
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on the tweets we have one from Sherry here who um and it has to do with Rachel actually
02:44:51.220
what what you meant me like Kami? yeah Twitter yeah that one okay yes Kami um I got interesting
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there was a tweet about I got my names mixed up
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yeah there's a lot so you might have to shift through them
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really? I think are you sure you're thinking about me? yeah because maybe why? make sure there's
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just nothing offensive on the page like no porn or anything maybe uh yeah
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oh my god this is uh I just see the same ugly woman Rach for Patriarchy commenting three plus times on this
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post for attention maybe uh are you able to wait did you scroll up and see what it was yeah scroll up
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I didn't know this was here like Andrew's wife Rachel oh my goodness I mean I actually take
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nothing back I'm oh it is transparent honest woman but I had no idea what a small world oh yeah we
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don't have to show that I didn't understand the context that was way more entertaining than I thought
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was it and one of Andrew's posts I actually don't remember the can they scroll up to the OP uh no
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we're not gonna scroll up oh if it's TOS is it the one that Andrew just tweeted that has like 31
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million impressions on it it's that one it's that one it's from Andrew can anyone give context
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what was it about it's probably better was it political like a very g-rated version of it
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Andrew Andrew tweeted that it was pretty incredible that women who are uh at an aesthetic disadvantage
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seem to disproportionately be terrified that men are going to SA them oh geez something to that effect
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right and it was yeah Andrew's a master at these tweets where he'll say something that's just like
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an is statement and then the women will reliably go so what you're saying is and then they'll like
02:46:55.020
extrapolate all sorts of meaning from it that he didn't intend so yeah and then what were my
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tweets again I actually forgot oh I do vaguely remember well there's more but we're not gonna
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pull those up quite yet I I forgot to go around for the rating yourself on the scale of one to ten
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do you think you will be better looking in 10 years time hide this I love this question so what are we
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using you said 10 years time like are we rating it physically like yeah it looks physical looks so
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what about it physically what do you mean well like for example I could be comparing two things and
02:47:35.260
I'm like what do I find physically beautiful six fingers seven feet tall three arms you know what
02:47:41.900
about it physically because from what I understand I've heard this question wait I think he meant
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like you watch yeah yeah yeah yeah by your standards guys guys stick with me what is this
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fingers are you gonna grow a finger when you're 30 stick with me stick with me stick with me stick
02:47:56.620
with me all right so let's say you're asking me am I gonna be better looking at 20 or 30.
02:48:05.260
so let's say we're measuring this like what's our unit of measure it's the physical beauty what
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about physical beauty okay so let's say overall attractiveness it's very simple let's not
02:48:14.700
over complicated just overall no no I'm really simplifying it I'm really simple go ahead simplify
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it for us all right so I think from what I understand what the unit of measure is is youth
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and so then the question breaks down to am I younger as a 20 year old woman or as a 30 year old woman and
02:48:32.700
going off of numbers yes I am younger at 20 than I am at 30. well that's not the question but it is
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no it's not the question it's simply are you going to be hotter yeah hotter based on what active right
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to based on what in general based on what measure that you rate someone so you rated yourself weren't
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you a 10 were you one of the tens oh yeah I would never got to explain why I said 10 I thought we're
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going to be able to explain it um okay why don't you do that and then we'll go back to this why are you
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a 10 um there is a time in my life where I felt so invisible and so unloved and like like if I
02:49:13.100
didn't love myself that no one else would just as a kid growing up so like I made a commitment to
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myself that like I would show up to myself no it's serious yeah so I don't know but anyways going off of
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that wait what does that have to do with your assessment of your looks um because she said oh
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you're the one of the people that said you're a 10 and I was just explaining why I thought I was a 10
02:49:38.300
right okay so do you want to just answer the question so we don't get bogged down forever I
02:49:43.180
mean you can move on but I said my answer no you didn't say your answer you were asking for
02:49:49.180
clarification and it was provided right so what's the unit of measurement it's are you going to be more
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attractive than a 10 you're a 10 now are you still going to be a 10 in 10 years yes but it
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does change the question a little bit so will you be more physically attractive in 10 years time
02:50:09.820
physically based on what on your physical appearance face body so you're going to look
02:50:15.660
different in 10 years and if you're a 10 now are you going to be a 15 or are you going to be like
02:50:21.660
a five like are you going to get more attractive or less attractive hold on I think it's you guys
02:50:25.900
are you're adding complication to it just let me get this through
02:50:31.980
I mean it's really like what are we valuing when it comes to physical attract oh for pete's sake just
02:50:38.700
answer the question if you have my child I'd be like do you want dinner do you want dinner right
02:50:43.020
now because if you do you better answer the damn question let's really peel back let's really peel back
02:50:47.580
what let's break down let's break this down what are we considering beautiful is it youth if the
02:50:54.220
answer is yes then it follows that yes I will be 20 like when I'm 20 I'll be younger than when I'm 30 so
02:51:01.420
yeah I have no idea why young men don't want to get married it's I'm I can't figure it out
02:51:09.260
I don't know why you don't understand because who would want to deal with this exactly oh no I meant like
02:51:15.580
you know what we're talking about just answer the question we're not all smoking weed and being
02:51:20.540
like yeah bro like what do you like when we say attractive exactly thank you I mean do you understand
02:51:28.220
like what are you like what a question is there's like a premise and then like what follows logically
02:51:33.180
like you can break it down it's like I've never I've never done a debate I have no idea what a question
02:51:39.580
private chat and clueless what if you really need me to break down beauty for you and looks we can
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we're getting something pulled up okay make it big so I can read it please big no you gotta click on it
02:52:03.500
then zoom it out uh make it a little bigger a little bigger please okay so there's various
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factors when it comes to your face facial harmony mid face ratio eye area skin features bones the rest
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facial harmony is how well a person's facial features fit well together with the rest of the face
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scroll down just keep going mid face ratio mid face ratio is a major component in determining
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the objective rating ideally female face should have 36 percent of her mid face scroll down eyes
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desired traits for the female eye area large almond shaped eyes arched shaped eyebrows
02:52:36.940
uh feline in this okay scroll down scroll down scroll down scroll down skin healthy smooth skin is
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commonly a sign of youth uh next face facial shape face shape nose
02:52:52.540
lips next bones yeah yeah but is that it and then and then there's your body you know there's okay
02:53:03.020
cool skin so this is great so right for the example i'm comparing myself as 20 to myself as 30. so let's
02:53:11.580
just assume that i have all the same features right what's the difference the difference is age so if the value
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is youth then yes i mean let's take for example this water bottle and this glass cup no it's not okay
02:53:25.260
no no no no here let me let me let me make this really simple let me make this really simple it's not
02:53:32.220
necessarily i mean age comes with things but it's not necessarily your age it's how you look
02:53:40.780
right yeah so if you were 50 but you somehow magically looked exactly the same yeah your the
02:53:51.660
assessment of your physical appearance would not matter if you were 20 or 50. now as it currently
02:53:58.540
stands there's no way for a woman at 20 to end up looking the exact same way at 50. but do you agree
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typically when you're 20 you're going to look different than when you're 30 40 50 yes you'll
02:54:11.260
look different yeah what are some of those changes that might occur well you might get older and with
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age comes wrinkles and so if the value is that you like no wrinkles aka like you like younger people
02:54:23.500
then yes then that means that your unit of measure is youth
02:54:27.100
if i say for example if i say for example water bottles or water containers that are metal are more
02:54:38.940
beautiful than containers that are glass or i don't know you know and we're comparing these it's like
02:54:44.540
which one's more beautiful well this one's metal so this one is more beautiful right like the unit of
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measure is that you're making this unnecessarily complicated it's really simple calling on purpose
02:54:56.380
it's not huh okay she's stalling on purpose i'm just like her friend made up a story about a cult
02:55:02.460
okay let's so here let me ask you let me ask you a different question yeah do you think that the
02:55:07.740
average 35 year old woman is more attractive than the average 25 year old woman based on youth
02:55:15.980
like what is it but let me ask you a question you seem to be making the case that there are
02:55:21.100
differing measures and differing units of attractiveness yes one of which you think is
02:55:26.140
youth yeah what are the other ones well for me i don't measure myself purely based off my physical
02:55:34.060
looks my value comes from all sorts of things okay so cool you play the violin that has zero to do
02:55:41.660
with your outward physical appearance yeah and so since we're talking about physical appearance
02:55:46.380
that's why i haven't brought that up yeah that's what we're talking about so you could be the most
02:55:51.580
amazing person yeah and there could be you know if you tend to have a more positive disposition you
02:55:57.340
smile a lot totally this will shift your like your perceived physical appearance slightly yeah like if
02:56:03.900
you're smiling and have a brightness to you versus constant scowling and resting bitch face whatever it is
02:56:10.620
i'll grant this but a beautiful 10 out of 10 woman who's got a sourpuss on her face versus an objectively
02:56:20.860
ugly woman even if the ugly woman is smiling is not going to be appraised or assessed as more attractive
02:56:30.460
than the 10 out of 10 model woman we're not talking about two different people we're talking about me at 20 and
02:56:36.620
me at 30. that's right so how's that relevant because you because you literally brought it up
02:56:44.940
you're like well it's a i think i'm more attractive because of my insides and i said i told you where
02:56:53.180
my value comes from because the second question you posed was like do you think the average 35 year
02:56:57.900
old person is more attractive than the average yeah more physically attractive it's within the context of
02:57:03.580
the looks okay i'm sorry i just didn't have that clarification i wasn't it was within the context
02:57:09.260
of the looks guys don't see your personality i'm just i'm just being a little silly guys nobody see
02:57:14.620
your personality until they get to know you that's the whole point right but i'm not saying that i'm
02:57:19.580
just saying like what are we using to measure physical attractiveness okay so here let me ask you
02:57:24.220
it's actually a mess stop stop stop is it your position that you that oh my god that just
02:57:30.300
god damn you guys gotta let me fucking talk holy fuck
02:57:39.820
totally lost what i was going to say totally lost my train of thought
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do you think that in your own viewpoint that women are more attractive when they're younger
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at 20 versus 30 based on physical physical looks yes based on what about the physicalness
02:58:08.780
yeah yeah i'm not trying to hog the conversation yeah i mean scientists they need to agree on a unit
02:58:14.620
of measurement before they talk i don't see why the unit of measurement is beauty that's not
02:58:19.420
specific enough you can't say the unit of measurement is length you need to say inches millimeters you
02:58:25.260
know aesthetics are objective we know what's beautiful and we know what's not beautiful
02:58:31.180
yeah so what's the measurement you literally pulled up a chart and it was showing me
02:58:35.740
measurements i hope you're pretending to be dumb are you pretending are you calling
02:58:40.780
me do you think i'm being dumb you could just drop the act and stop pretending to be stupid
02:58:46.460
and just answer the question i feel like i'm explaining this in a really easy to understand
02:58:50.700
way actually i think you're being obstinate and ridiculous and if we look at a picture of you at
02:58:55.340
20 and a picture of you i think you're trolling is gonna look better you're going on and on and
02:59:00.060
we're not making any progress i think at one point it turned into trolling people get really bored
02:59:04.700
i'm sorry you guys feel that way we can move on i'm not trolling i mean just don't be upset when
02:59:10.540
the show goes super late because you've continuously just waste 10 minutes every time we we get to
02:59:17.580
you having to you can move on you're the host you could just like control the flow of the conversation
02:59:22.060
or you could just operate in good faith and just answer the question
02:59:30.220
zero accountability okay i'll ask it again do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years time
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oh my god based on what you're actually retarded you're actually retarded okay no she's playing
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innocent she's just being a brat i'm not being a brat you're being a brat i just feel like you can't
02:59:49.740
defend i have a different question i have four daughters and i know when girls are playing dumb
02:59:53.820
and being a brat okay i feel like you can't you can't defend your point so you're just resorting
02:59:58.300
to calling me i haven't had a chance to make a point that's what kids do they call each other
03:00:02.540
names when they don't get their way and they don't understand okay i'll ask you a different
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question do you think do you think most men will find you more attractive now at 20 or excuse
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me 22 or you when you'll be 42 if their value is youth then yes if their value is looks yeah looks
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based on youth then yes okay so okay let me ask you this if okay you said the girl on the right was
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less attractive than the girl on the left right for that i said the girl on the left is more attractive
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well i didn't even say it but yes sure okay sure so do you think that the girl that you said is more
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attractive at 42 is more or less attractive than the other one at 20. wait but that's different people
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hold on i so i can even grant you it's not it's not a monolith here there are 32 year old women who
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are going to be more attractive than 22 year old women yes that's what i'm saying it's based on what
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what's the unit like is it youth yeah but that would be a comparison between two people the comparison
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you don't even have any semblance of your position on this like okay do you think as people age they
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tend to become less or more physically attractive um they tend to get wrinkled and which older by
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society's standard by society's standard of valuing youth then yeah
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okay all right uh okay let me make okay do you think you'll be better looking in 20 years time
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me yeah you better looking i don't know 30 years time i don't know i'll look older for sure
03:02:01.820
i'd probably i i value youth so yeah i mean i i think if that is what i value then maybe i'll look
03:02:09.100
more younger at 20 like i don't know do you think a uh do you think you'll have an easier time
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getting a getting a modeling contract now at 22 versus you at 102 yes because modeling agencies value
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youth oh my god okay i'm just moving this on you're 26 will you be better looking in 10 years time
03:02:36.380
good question i think um looking at my mom and the genetics in my family i think yes but then
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if you were to say after that i don't know because typically women in my family they look they age
03:02:52.220
better until like menopause like perimenopause like okay so you're 20 raisin so you're 26 yeah you'll
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be better looking at 36 yeah i want to work more on my fitness goals so yes unbelievable huh well i have
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a question because is it kami yes what like like communist that's pretty funny no like kami like god in
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japanese okay sure anyways you called me ugly and so i'm 44 so i want to know do you think you're going
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to be hot when you're 44 i wouldn't say hot no i never said hot i never even said i'm hot now
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and i actually didn't you call yourself a 10 no i didn't i never said that what did you say you were
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i said probably an eight because we cannot say seven well i didn't encourage me to be considered
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hot for me personally i think nine and ten are hot eight is average because we cannot say seven
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and then six is sorry not average average attractive because i don't think i'm average out of all the
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women in the world but i think out of women that men want today or society likes i think i am average
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amongst them wait really quick on this can we get this pulled up really quick yeah just for
03:04:11.100
clarification now i actually disagree with the faces that they show but we're this is going to
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explain the rating scale you can disregard the actual faces here i need the right where it it
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okay so not there there's no tens god tier basically no one meets the standard 9.5 that's the top
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0.002 percent i disagree with some of these faces whatever doesn't matter a 9 or 9.5 extremely rare
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this range will consist of the best looking women of all time with virtually every facial feature
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being top tier these women have great bone structure strong projected jaw high set prominent
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zygomatic processes excellent facial symmetry and harmony large almond eyes full lips fine eyebrows
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skin will show intact collagen and be clear both signs of youthful youthfulness the face will be
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almost perfectly harmonious with a majority of facial features being feminine and cohesive
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supermodels and some actresses can be found in this category scroll down
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eight uncommonly seen these women are attractive with and without makeup and have high facial aesthetics
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face consists of attractive and feminine features rounder large eyes with the little upper eyelid
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exposure high cheekbones feminine small chin and overall soft and harmonious traits face might may
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not be perfect including one or two less attractive or more masculine features however this is negligible
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overall models and actresses can be found in this category scroll down seven somewhat uncommon in the
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most attractive women seen on a day-to-day basis these women stand out from the crowd and may be able to
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model or be successful as an instagram model or influencer a majority of facial features will be feminine
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and attractive but they may possess a few flaws bulbous nasal tip slight asymmetry long mid face the overall
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face is attractive and has good harmony six these women will be good looking with mostly positive facial
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features and some negative features hair and skin will be healthy face will be attractive to majority of
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people but may be polarizing to some overall face will be harmonious and these women will be considered
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better looking better looking than average 5.5 these women will be above average and somewhat good
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looking with some positive facial features and some negative features hair and skin will be healthy
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face will be somewhat attractive to some people but only be slightly above average to others overall face will
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be fairly harmonious and these women will be considered better looking than average five
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the majority of women fall in this range face is not head turning but makeup can be used to accentuate facial
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features to the point of being considered slightly attractive to a decent amount of people facial flaws may be
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noticeable recessed maxilla narrow palate asymmetry excess upper eyelid exposure excess buccal fat and imperfect skin
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four a decent amount of women fall into this range and they will not be considered particularly
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attractive but also are not ugly possible flaws are noticeable masculine features bushy eyebrows large nose
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strong chin face lacks harmony and flaws detract from overall attractiveness these women may possess a niche
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or unconventional face or style three these women are considered unattractive by majority of people
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many facial flaws will be noticeable overall these women lack an appealing face but are not repulsive
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two every facial feature will be below average and unattractive these women are considered ugly by almost all of
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the population potential flaws extreme asymmetry and little facial harmony scroll one every facial feature
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will be well below average and very unattractive these women are considered very ugly by all of the
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population is there more scroll down no appeal whatsoever okay there my bad sorry i didn't mean to go there
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does that help at all yeah it actually does so did you show this because i said
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in 10 years i think i'll have better features than today no you were or you showed this because of
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the rachel like i just want to clarify you're going back to the uh the conversation about rating on a
03:08:19.500
one to ten scale oh okay actually after reviewing that i will say that i'm seven but specifically they
03:08:27.020
said don't say seven they said you cannot choose seven so that's actually exactly what i said here why
03:08:32.300
why don't we just try to get through this yeah um so okay can i answer and also sorry rachel i called
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you ugly because after reading that actually i would say your what they defined the category that i
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personally feel like was close to the description they actually said is not considered ugly
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so okay sorry about that but you're i mean i don't want to obviously i don't want to like
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point out but if you really are wondering why i said that i can't explain and i think it would
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actually pretty much that's cool so anyways back to this so anyways do you think you'll be better
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looking in 10 years time 10 years yes okay so you're 26 you'll be better looking at 36 what about
03:09:13.500
20 years time 46 no okay i still stand by that no were you better looking at 18 or are you better
03:09:19.100
looking now at 26 now okay yeah that's why you're 26 are you going to be better looking in 10 years
03:09:25.100
time no and are you better looking now 26 than you were at 18 i would i would say yes okay you're 24
03:09:33.740
better looking in 10 years time yes at 34 okay better looking in 20 years time at 44 no okay you're 28
03:09:44.140
uh better looking in 10 years time at 38 yes better looking in 10 years or 20 years time at 48 no and then
03:09:51.980
were you better looking at 18 as compared to now 28 no so better looking now yes okay
03:09:58.780
i hope i look better in 10 years okay so you're 23 better looking at 33 yeah better looking at 43
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probably not okay going to you you're 22 better looking in 10 years time at 32 yes
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better looking at 42 no okay sheena uh you're 50 better looking in 10 years time
03:10:14.460
uh i think i'm not gonna look as good no okay and i think yeah okay that's fine um so
03:10:25.820
that's crazy um you know what for those of you you know what here chat this is what i want you guys
03:10:30.300
to do or the discord discord if you recall from sunday show we're gonna do a comparison here so you
03:10:36.620
guys can do the the ai age thing on did you say did anybody say here better looking in 20 years
03:10:49.180
to who did you say it they did it to everybody on the panel no
03:10:52.780
shit i love it perfect and did they do the comparison i hope that's lovely that let's go
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through oh my god i'm excited all right all right so you guys all think you're gonna be better looking
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when you're older here we go all right wow oh my god why do you gotta start with me though
03:11:13.420
you look like santa oh my god that's 10 years and that's 20 years or 10 or 20
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that's me in one year probably ah okay thank you guys appreciated that one
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oh that was me yesterday that was me yesterday yeah um oh you're kind of pretty yikes 10 years
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i don't look pretty actually you you want to see my grandma who's 88 that's what she looks like
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but with my hair oh my gosh look like an old english moment i wonder how often i look
03:11:45.500
oh my gosh oh my gosh now they're bumping up yeah they're bumping up like they're
03:11:49.580
i changed my hair before they mentioned george washington yeah i was gonna say you look like a
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wow wow you're being 12. that's pretty good when i'm gonna be 60 maybe yeah
03:12:08.860
what what almost the same are you seeing this ai
03:12:19.660
wait austin can you pull the discord back up uh pull it back up really quick when does that
03:12:25.580
can you just scroll on the tab on the left there can you scroll it up yeah yeah all the way up
03:12:31.420
yeah thank thank you that's good uh damn that's crazy uh wait there's screenshots of the girl from
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the video you were just talking about what i don't know what that is but i wanna the cult i want to
03:12:49.900
should i have andrew jump back in or uh no you should have i think you should have a bit of a back
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and forth um okay what what do you have in mind anything uh i mean did you have anything you wanted to
03:13:04.300
well i noticed that when andrew said what he was looking for in his
03:13:07.500
in a wife was a good mom and someone who's going to obey that that got quite a reaction from
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the panel so i don't know if any of the girls want to ask about that because they seemed like
03:13:16.140
they thought that was a bad naughty word the obey word i mean i'm not looking for a dictator like i
03:13:23.820
don't want someone who's going to tell me what to do and i gotta follow it like with my tail between
03:13:28.860
my legs you know but i think obey was too strong to say i would say someone who's just submissive
03:13:35.580
like i still want my opinion and my voice to be heard in the relationship but i would
03:13:39.900
do what my man tells me to do for the most part okay so so how is that okay we got to figure out
03:13:47.580
where the line is when you say submissive but you're like well i'll submit when i'm in the mood
03:13:55.100
like how is that submission well because it's kind of like well yeah you're right then because i'm not
03:14:01.180
fully submissive then i would say like if my man tells me like come here or do this or do that
03:14:05.500
i'll do that but if it's going against my own personal like beliefs and thoughts like i'm not
03:14:11.260
going to do it like i'm just well here's here's where this comes into play it's not like so i don't
03:14:16.700
know if people think that andrew's just telling me like uh you know stand up sit down put eat this
03:14:23.420
much don't eat that he's not doing that but it's like so if there comes a point where we disagree on
03:14:28.700
something like let's say we need to buy a new house uh andrew gets a job offer somewhere and he's
03:14:35.100
like okay i got a job offer but part of that is we got to move to mexico right um and i don't really
03:14:42.700
want to move to mexico what do you think as a married couple what do you think the right move is
03:14:48.860
there well if he's a financial provider for the family then i feel like the right move is for you to
03:14:53.740
go with him and figure it out but what but what if i don't want to yeah well then that's on you
03:14:58.780
that's your well what would you do what would you do if your husband's like listen i'm taking this job
03:15:04.140
we're moving to mexico and you're like but i want to be close to my mom and i like my friends here and
03:15:09.500
i don't want to go to mexico i want to stay here like no i'm like let's go like i'll call my mom i'll
03:15:14.780
talk to her on the phone that's okay like i did i did it already i got married what if it's
03:15:18.860
what if it's somewhere you really don't want to go okay what if it's like pakistan
03:15:26.220
pakistan's insane okay honestly um i think i would kind of like visit first to see if this
03:15:34.940
is the right fit for me as well and see we can do the long distance thing but you know i'm all about
03:15:42.060
like family too so like my husband is my family member now so and i like priorities within that
03:15:48.380
household not my mom and sisters and stuff like that so honestly if i have to move to pakistan i
03:15:55.180
will but i would just go back home a lot or vice versa i'll stay home and visit him a lot i don't know
03:16:01.260
okay what if your husband gives you a spending limit like what if he says look
03:16:04.940
babe we have financial goals and you can only spend this much per month on you know uh your personal
03:16:12.300
spending and you're like well i can't get my hair done my nails done off my makeup that i like to buy
03:16:17.340
i i you know i that's not enough i need like double that like what if you guys have an issue about
03:16:22.780
finances like that are you going to submit to what he says there or no no he's gonna have to let me work
03:16:30.460
oh so then why let me just ask then if that's if that's the way it works if that's the deal for the man
03:16:37.340
why would he want to marry you well you ain't got to i'm i'm right but what i'm what i'm saying is
03:16:45.420
like why would a man want to have children and and make a lifelong commitment to somebody who's like
03:16:51.740
well i'm gonna do what i want though well i don't think i just feel like choose your partner wisely
03:16:57.740
like we all come with our own flaws so it's like if you don't like that i like to get my hair done and
03:17:02.940
my nails done and i think it's a priority for me to look good which is what attracted you i just
03:17:07.420
feel like well then i i don't know i just literally forgot my whole point but so let's feel like married
03:17:15.020
you're married you have two kids with your husband and he gets in an accident at work and you know now
03:17:20.860
you do have to work and all he gets is like disability pay and your budget like your income
03:17:26.860
is half what it used to be so now you truly can't afford to get your hair done get your nails done
03:17:31.900
get the like brand name makeup you gotta just like you still have a roof over your head you
03:17:37.100
still have food you still have heat you know the basics are there but you don't get any of the
03:17:41.340
luxuries anymore are you gonna like stick it out with him or are you out at that point and i'm
03:17:45.260
honing down like honestly like i'm really self-sufficient so luckily for me if we're talking
03:17:50.700
about me personally i know how to do my own hair i know my own makeup i do forrest gump donated 200
03:17:56.620
dollars chair number one i'm not as thought as you drunk i am officer what
03:18:04.540
who's chair number one well i guess i'm just i'm asking like why is why is it two different answers
03:18:11.260
that you gave me like if you're willing to go without stuff if things go wrong why would you
03:18:16.940
not be willing to go without stuff if your husband says we have financial goals you know for now we got
03:18:22.300
to pare down the budget why are you instantly like well i'm gonna go to work what if he doesn't
03:18:26.220
want to put his kids in a daycare what if he's like i don't want my kids raised in a daycare i want
03:18:30.140
my my wife to raise my kids you're gonna prioritize hair no i just it's not that i would prioritize
03:18:37.260
hair i just kind of feel like if that's our goals for our family and i'm so capable to work yeah you
03:18:43.340
want me to stay home and take care of the children i don't know it's kind of like i would do it and i
03:18:47.900
wouldn't at the same time it's just like i want what i want if i can't have it at that moment because i
03:18:52.380
know there's a bigger goal in mind then i'll for sure sacrifice that but if i don't have to i'm not
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going to like if you kind of get what i'm saying yeah i think it's like you might lose some battles
03:19:03.420
to win the war yeah but like you love this person you can kind of see the vision long term is that
03:19:08.700
what you're saying but if the man if you guys expect a provider why would a provider have to like
03:19:16.380
why would you have to agree to everything he decides if he says this is what the finances are
03:19:21.340
i'm the provider you've got everything you need and most of what you want but look i'm gonna say
03:19:26.620
no to some things what makes you feel like you have like this well i should still be able to just
03:19:32.620
have whatever i want like i'm asking how can you ask for both how can you say provide for me but also
03:19:38.380
i'm gonna make the decisions i'm gonna do what i want i'm gonna be willful and it's all about me and
03:19:43.500
what i want and if you say this is how i want things to be if i agree i'll go along but if i disagree
03:19:50.140
i'm just gonna do what i want anyway like ooh like you would never sign up for that like you
03:19:54.700
would never marry somebody or like sign up for a job where somebody was going to be like that to
03:20:00.380
you if you were the boss and you're interviewing an employee and they're like well i'll listen to
03:20:05.900
you when i agree but when i don't agree with you i'm just gonna do what i want you would not hire
03:20:10.140
that person as an employee no honestly i think that's one of the biggest issues i have in relationships
03:20:14.940
is that because that's how i am it's kind of like you tell me and i'm like okay i'm cool with that
03:20:19.740
and the minute i'm not cool with something i'm like no i'm not doing that so that's kind of like
03:20:23.180
one of the biggest issues i do have in a relationship which is you're kind of also you're not an employee
03:20:28.780
yeah well but if i think not everyone is like that that's like double standard
03:20:33.500
being a submissive wife then yes you are to be submissive is to be subordinate it means that you are
03:20:40.220
not in charge it means that there is somebody above you who has authority over you and this is
03:20:45.020
my little old lady wisdom for you girls i remember the specific moment when i was very young in my
03:20:50.540
early 20s and i realized this uh if you want a man who is about business and he can handle his
03:20:57.420
shit and he's a good leader and he's like competent he's independent he's like one of these top tier guys
03:21:04.220
that you want that's like confident and knows what he's doing that type of man is not going to put up
03:21:09.740
with strong independent woman he's not going to put up with you stepping on his dick all the time
03:21:14.140
and going well but i think we should be doing it this way and i really don't agree with you like
03:21:18.380
if you want a guy who's going to put up with that he's going to be a little bit of a softer beta
03:21:24.140
kind of guy he's going to let you walk all over him and you're probably not going to be attracted
03:21:28.460
and you're probably not going to respect him so you kind of have to pick one like if you want
03:21:33.260
i don't know about the respect no no it's true no forrest gump donated two hundred dollars
03:21:39.900
chair number three you are a 9.5 god bless the united kingdom and i hope we are not cousins
03:21:47.180
long live andrew and rachel i told you she's gorgeous well that's very kind i think i think
03:21:53.580
people respect different things so i actually did agree with you know most of that statement from rachel
03:21:59.900
where you it probably won't be a guy who's so demanding all the time and my two exes were
03:22:07.500
exactly like what you kind of described like the confident alpha male so many successful businesses
03:22:13.580
everyone wants to be him you know the guys are like you know trying to be his mentee and whatever
03:22:19.100
and then um you know i actually didn't really respect how he would kind of project that into our
03:22:25.660
relationship and be controlling me by the way i didn't say that um i am extreme i didn't say that
03:22:32.460
i want to be submissive in a relationship because of this these two experiences i realized that actually
03:22:38.220
i respect someone who cares about what i think but a confident man cares about what you think just
03:22:44.700
doesn't care about what i think i mean i've definitely suspected that but i feel like it might
03:22:48.940
be a persona so no it's i like i don't i mean because seriously i don't think you guys would be
03:22:54.780
together if he didn't actually care but i do i will say sometimes online it comes off that way
03:23:01.420
well that's because sometimes it is that way there are times where if i see if he knows something
03:23:06.300
is important and stuff has to get done and there's like a deadline and he doesn't have time for a
03:23:10.780
bunch of quabbling and like like so you're being unreasonable because that's the difference i don't
03:23:16.940
like i would never do that actually because i'm very reasonable i used to be a tech founder too
03:23:21.980
um i used to be the cpo and i just wouldn't do things that are not reasonable if there was a
03:23:25.820
deadline if there's something urgent i would do like basically just you know risk analysis or whatever
03:23:30.860
basically like i'm just doing swat analysis all the time when we're making decisions together we
03:23:34.460
would discuss and then we would pick something that is reasonable together and sometimes you realize
03:23:41.740
that over the course of a whole lifetime there will be times it for every couple i agree where
03:23:47.820
they hit a point with something where they just don't agree i agree and so so the question is what
03:23:52.940
do you do then i actually kind of answered this earlier so for financial and home um i will go with
03:23:59.260
my man's choice basically his opinion if we're really at like an impasse and then for mental
03:24:06.140
emotional health physical health lifestyle um it would be me actually so we're that's kind of how
03:24:13.820
what do you mean by lifestyle if you were married but what do you mean by lifestyle oh i just mean
03:24:18.620
lifestyle like um you know how fit are we what are we eating what are we putting into our bodies like
03:24:24.460
are we getting walks because these really are things that when two people are so busy just basically
03:24:29.500
workaholics someone has to think about it two hundred dollars i'd rather have one thousand lives
03:24:36.220
with rachel and what andrew and her have them be with you three hundred and fours girls versus a
03:24:42.060
real woman what's three hundred and four it's three or four they're calling us well the things you say
03:24:49.900
that you would like to be in charge in are quite feminine things so yeah cooking and making sure
03:24:55.660
your husband goes for walks and stuff well you said about what food you eat so yeah we order we
03:25:00.540
we order because i only cook as a hobby because i actually am i actually really like yeah um
03:25:07.180
wait cooking as a hobby yeah yeah we usually eat out but like occasionally i did like i did cook the
03:25:13.420
other day as a hobby and like i love cooking for my man's when i'm not tired or stressed or you
03:25:19.740
know worried about business you're not it's not i think supposed to is not an option i never told no
03:25:25.340
no no listen i never said at any point in the relationship of meeting this guy that i cook
03:25:32.140
all my exes know like i i'm not that i cook i clean but i still handle things like emotional
03:25:37.340
mental physical health taking into consideration both people's long-term well-being i want to tell
03:25:42.540
something from the place i come from a woman that don't know how to cook and not passionate about it
03:25:47.580
she's not considered a good catch because yeah i don't cook i don't clean cooking coming with passion
03:25:52.220
like i've been proposed to twice by quality my last multi-millionaire a lot of people's dream
03:25:58.140
guy you know he proposed i was the one who broke it off it's a dream guy only to girls who come from
03:26:02.300
nothing for girls who know life she's not dreaming on a bill billionaire because a billionaire gonna
03:26:07.580
have control over you control exactly that's why i actually respect someone who respects my
03:26:11.900
opinion when you have kids with a billionaire right if he doesn't like you you'll be you'll be
03:26:17.420
replaceable i agree no matter what i agree and this is a choice right i think that kind of does go
03:26:22.460
back to what rachel was saying let's say that rachel was talking about like the top one percent these
03:26:26.540
desirable men or whatever but like you are still replaceable but they don't really it's only it's
03:26:31.420
only listen it's only desirable to people who come from nothing people who know life and know how
03:26:37.020
the life of game and how life operates they're not looking for the the title like a millionaire i have
03:26:42.700
this card they have this job a lawyer that's true i don't think they're looking for a real steady
03:26:47.740
steady man that be grounded and protect them and love them that's the whole point i think that's
03:26:53.020
because millions you can make what i've been saying yes i've basically been saying that look
03:26:57.500
if we ever have an impasse that was the original question this is how i would deal with the conflict
03:27:02.380
resolution as a reasonable person a woman can lead her man to be super successful and rich and a woman
03:27:08.380
can lead her man to destruction okay not by everything you take personally i'm not talking
03:27:12.540
about you i'm talking in general yeah i'm saying some women literally can they take their man for
03:27:17.740
destruction and a woman if you're gonna have kids you need to know how to cook how to clean how to work
03:27:22.460
how to improvise how to provide also in a way because god forbid in your men fall down you the one
03:27:28.460
they have to handle and do everything you said no i'm not cooking just for hobby no i'm i know how to
03:27:32.220
order takeout but you need to be all these ingredients you know well i'm hearing you need to bring
03:27:37.820
enough things to the table right i have a question that maybe nobody's thought to ask yet to sheena
03:27:44.060
so sheena you seem to have a lot of wisdom to share you seem to be really jumping there you said you're
03:27:49.500
50 right yeah yeah so you're just only a little bit older than me you know i'm 44 um you said you're
03:27:56.540
still waiting for your king so why is it since you seem to have all this knowledge and you seem to
03:28:01.100
understand how relationship dynamics work you're willing to give advice you have a lot of wisdom
03:28:05.980
why is it that you haven't found your king yet do you think i tell you i know exactly why first of
03:28:10.460
all i live in america and sorry to say that but majority of men that i'm surrounded with in los
03:28:15.340
angeles are really sissy gay mentality um they're not masculine enough for me if i would if i would
03:28:24.060
meet a man that is a real all-american man maybe been in the army or strong and opinionated and a good
03:28:30.380
man i would marry him yesterday i just got out of a relationship of four years that we're almost
03:28:35.900
engaged so oh not the divorce unfortunately no no i was married for 10 years unfortunately i tell you
03:28:42.300
what i'm not jumping into relationship for me i'm not going to tolerate one night stands or just hookups
03:28:48.780
i need a guy to really commit to me and because of how i look and i take care of myself a lot of the
03:28:54.140
guys they get scared because they think another gold digger from los angeles so when they get to know
03:28:59.260
me of course they like me but until i meet that guy that would understand my value and that i would
03:29:05.020
be attracted to him emotionally physically it's really hard for me like it's it's so hard to and
03:29:09.820
i'm not on dating apps by the way i don't want to be on dating apps because i want it to happen
03:29:14.220
naturally i don't want to go with a guy that go with 20 girls and and start feeling stressed about
03:29:19.180
dinner because he already took last week five or six girls to dinner i want to have a real real
03:29:24.540
gentleman with values i'm praying and and you know want it to happen but i'm not approaching guys
03:29:30.700
if a guy won't approach me i'm not gonna approach him so you're too hot and you're too awesome i don't
03:29:36.140
think i'm too hot at all she said it's not what i'm saying please don't twist my words and don't
03:29:41.260
twist my words because that's not what i said i said because how i look i intimidate guys i didn't
03:29:46.460
say i look good i think something about my look make them look obviously you don't know what i'm
03:29:51.340
doing i i own a business of facial injections so i do it for 16 years i do botox fillers i do all
03:29:58.060
the russian techniques of faces right so because i work on myself and i like to make myself look
03:30:04.700
good obviously because of the majority of what you have in america that do injections you know
03:30:09.340
they're not going to think that one woman like me that do injections to herself or whatever she's
03:30:14.060
going to be a little bit different but i do love old values i i come from israel you understand
03:30:20.220
most of the women in israel look like me they love to take care of themselves even if they go
03:30:24.860
to the army they would never miss their botox appointment right that's that's just how i am
03:30:29.980
with my mentality okay so you can't find a man who's not a pussy so have you thought of like going to the
03:30:37.980
midwest to the south i actually moved to texas i just come back from texas four months ago because i
03:30:44.060
opened the business there the only problem my son is 21 now he's in la i don't have like close friends
03:30:50.780
in texas i was you know i find myself six months in texas all by myself trying to go out alone going
03:30:56.620
to dinner alone you know hard for me to mingle you know i don't have like friends that i grew up with
03:31:01.980
or that i hang out with so i end up coming to la and saying my god it's miserable like la it's difficult
03:31:07.580
for me socially but when i go to texas it's also miserable to me socially because i don't know
03:31:12.780
anybody i try to go out with some clients you know i try it but i'm going actually to the general of
03:31:19.020
the marines invited me to a private event so i'm waiting and exciting and participating i've just
03:31:25.100
noticed a pattern i've just noticed a pattern that you really really like to talk and i do too i'm a
03:31:30.060
talker as well but you really like to talk and you really like to talk about yourself and hear yourself
03:31:35.980
talk and i'm just wondering if you've considered that maybe those qualities might be off-putting to
03:31:41.900
the type of men that you want to attract a good point i'll tell you when i actually meet a man i
03:31:46.300
don't talk at all they think what's wrong with you are you shy i only talk when i'm debating or
03:31:51.180
when i'm doing something like that on the media god forbid she talks on a podcast where she was invited
03:31:56.380
to talk yeah but no no i talk in a lot of podcasts but you know i don't know you don't know my history i
03:32:01.580
was an actress for 20 years i did a lot of tv and comedy i was doing stand-up comedy actually
03:32:07.420
and i'm used to being on the spotlight i came to america i never tried to be an actress never
03:32:12.620
tried to be on the media it happens when i you know start to go and post videos of things of how
03:32:18.060
i saw society but to your question wait let me just finish your question i wish i wish i would meet a
03:32:26.460
man i miss so many opportunities because when i see an attractive guy i just like close and
03:32:33.100
embarrassed to talk to him because i don't know what to say what am i gonna say hey i like you
03:32:37.900
like if he's not gonna approach me what am i gonna say it's hard wait this is a little off
03:32:42.780
tangent but i think when we went around and said like why our previous relationships ended like
03:32:47.580
i don't know if um we got around to you i can say do you want to know yeah i'm like
03:32:53.260
generally thank you for having me on nice to meet you all so my previous relationship
03:33:01.900
that you're not gonna believe for something really stupid oh really i'm moroccan black
03:33:07.100
russian descent my ex-boyfriend chinesian descent which is similar to moroccan but his chinesian
03:33:12.860
mother didn't like me because i'm a rock it's competitive and he was like a mama i got it so it
03:33:19.020
was a big you know all the time oh gosh and i'm not gonna argue with his mother because this is the
03:33:23.260
first woman in his life she loved him and i kind of step back if this is more important to him and
03:33:28.780
he's not fighting for me i'm not gonna fight for a man if that doesn't fight for me yeah generally i
03:33:32.780
avoid these kind of guys because my ex-sex was a bit similar it was really it took me literally just
03:33:38.620
three months ago to get out of it i was so it was such a heartbreak for me because i thought we're
03:33:42.700
gonna be together forever i'm so sorry i've been there i'm truly sorry yeah but uh yeah like for me
03:33:52.220
it's so hard to meet men's like i know all the girls know i'm going on a date like why nobody invite me
03:33:56.380
on a date maybe because my age i don't know i don't know nobody invite me on dates ever yeah like maybe
03:34:04.700
maybe well very rare yeah maybe it's intimidating i don't know but then if you're shy with guys then
03:34:13.340
maybe it's not intimidating maybe it's too shy i don't know no but i honestly don't know i don't
03:34:17.420
think a woman should approach a man it's more i think for the long run when you approach him it's
03:34:23.820
always catch you back you know but how long will you wait if you're waiting on your king and you don't
03:34:30.300
want to approach guys like i'm genuinely curious is there a timeline like i tell you what i was planning to
03:34:34.380
go to israel four times because of the war i didn't go because i lost like 30 friends in october
03:34:40.460
7 and i'm like if i'm going now and they shooting people on the streets i'm not gonna go i already
03:34:45.020
got injured twice so i'm literally waiting for the war to yeah but hang on we're gonna we're gonna move
03:34:49.980
past the israel talk here though sorry yeah because no what i'm trying to say is that i'm waiting for the
03:34:55.500
war to end so i can go there and maybe find a husband i think the there is i know a lot
03:35:04.300
of people will sort of scoff at it when you say if you're attractive you get approached
03:35:08.220
less by men but i do think that is true um there is like a small amount of truth in that just in
03:35:14.060
general but i i think that you know a lot of us have ideals about a man should always approach me
03:35:21.020
and things like that i think sometimes you know like what we were saying earlier i want a woman who's
03:35:26.300
a virgin but if she was an amazing mother this that that and the other that i would accept a woman who
03:35:29.900
wasn't a virgin i think us as women have to also have that flexibility of oh it would be ideal but
03:35:37.980
i haven't had a date in like you know six weeks maybe i do need to approach a few men and just
03:35:42.300
like see how that goes and like we have like some flexibility with like your standards or like be
03:35:47.660
willing to change some things talking about me yeah well everyone in general but i know but i also
03:35:52.380
agree that you will have fewer men approach you when you're more attractive as well i tell you
03:35:57.900
what i think i was married for 10 years it was really you know to get out of a marriage and to
03:36:02.940
become single again especially when you're a single mom it's so difficult because you know when i tried
03:36:08.940
to date men when i was a single mom like young single mom with a little kid i realized the majority of
03:36:14.300
men what they want is just sex because if you're a single mom maybe you need help maybe you need help
03:36:18.940
with money and when i realized that i kind of shut down and focused on raising my baby and i said if it's
03:36:25.500
not a serious relationship and who's going to be in a serious relationship unless it's a man that
03:36:30.700
already have kids himself and i also immigrated here i've been alone as an immigrant had to learn
03:36:35.740
you know what's going on in america how to live here you know it was really a long time for me but
03:36:42.220
you know it is what it is in the hands of god whatever needs to happen happen i'm not you know
03:36:48.940
stressing it's so wholesome when it's just the girl he's talking the woman
03:36:55.420
it's so peaceful when it's just the woman talking you mean boring i wonder why i'm not boring
03:37:00.780
trust me i mean not good for the brand but is it let me let me actually see
03:37:06.700
well you see the clips you see the people can you say uh say the word woman woman now say the word
03:37:14.060
women women wait okay oh women oh he's correcting you i didn't even know i've actually i've seen a
03:37:22.540
clip where andrew was correcting i kept saying woman woman woman woman but it doesn't come naturally to
03:37:29.180
me sorry i didn't grow up here so i'm actually trialing yeah robert tanner robert tanner thank you for the
03:37:34.460
gifted 20 memberships really appreciate it we have pelagic here what wait you have a valley girl accent
03:37:40.620
yeah isn't that crazy but you've been inundated yes exactly but wait andrew i want to answer him
03:37:46.620
wait i want to answer him we're going to be here for i could do i could do whatever accent i like
03:37:51.260
darling that's so i could do whatever accent i like so i'm very good with accents that's very good
03:37:56.300
but sometimes i only have one i don't know the correct words i'm literally i sit down within a
03:38:02.700
minute i'm already interrupted okay pelagic thank you for the super chat man intimidated by your looks
03:38:08.620
you're a confrontational loud mouth that's why do you have a response maybe and i accept it all
03:38:14.780
right pelagic thank you for the super chat man all right um we have uh n-t-p-e-b chair one
03:38:25.580
quit trying to be smart you're either trolling or are slurred please do us all a favor and do
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not reproduce i wish you're okay i'm not going to read that after last show tonight i'm sorry i'm sorry
03:38:35.100
brian oh the solipsism eh okay um we have living here two hours behind but jesus
03:38:44.460
fucking christ brian is on his fat gun of a period true not simping but i love the british accent lost
03:38:49.340
my virginity to a brit but of course it was a fucking scouser scouser what's the only bad british
03:38:56.220
accent it's somebody from liverpool or birkenhead area all right yo the dude thank you for the gift
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of 20 memberships really appreciate it thank you very much man and then we have alec lewis coming
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in here in just a moment thank you for the hundred dollar donation listen ladies i'm a veteran who
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fought for this country and spilled blood for this country i can tell you my brothers who died in combat
03:39:19.820
didn't die for women like you they did for women like rachel alec lewis thank you man appreciate the
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uh the message there thank you man all right i want to get through all the reacts and uh hold on
03:39:34.060
what is that okay one sec guys um let's start with the first tweet austin we're just going to go through
03:39:39.820
the tweets we'll get through the rest of the show notes and we'll try to try to go as quick as
03:39:43.820
possible here we're very behind them all right oh no not this next
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all right we're going to get to no we already did this next
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we're going to get to ruby's tweets ruby you said still fascinates me how men will
03:40:06.620
slut shame women but still watch porn does that still yeah so i think is that tweet
03:40:13.660
two years old and um i think it's i definitely i wouldn't tweet that now because i just like
03:40:21.660
wouldn't say that on my twitter but i think it is interesting that men will actively go out and
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speak about i hate women who do porn but will still consume porn i do think that is so
03:40:35.260
if i think if i enjoy watching professional football do i have to play professional football
03:40:47.180
no no but if you enjoy watching football but you're constantly tweeting oh i hate footballers i
03:40:52.300
hate footballers i do think that's interesting i actually don't because look i i personally i don't
03:40:59.340
recommend porn consumption but i actually don't think there's anything wrong with a man who watches
03:41:06.060
porn and maybe this isn't what you're trying to get at but a man who watches porn but also would not
03:41:12.380
date a woman who's either promiscuous or involved in porn is that the point you're trying to make no
03:41:17.980
she's not talking about the point no so the point the point i made when i tweeted that was just as
03:41:24.540
simple as people being nasty to women who do porn but still enjoying watching porn so i think there's
03:41:30.700
a a very big difference between not agreeing with what someone does or being like i wouldn't date a
03:41:35.500
sex worker and then being outright publicly i'm not sure if this really tracks so much so like for
03:41:41.420
example you familiar with the musical artist r kelly a bit yeah so so this man has been accused of
03:41:48.940
uh oh i believe he's not just been accused but convicted of various i yeah sex sex crimes right um
03:41:59.660
i mean what's that what's this fucking song uh i believe i can fly that's a fucking banger you could
03:42:05.820
still like the song and be like damn this guy's a terrible person yeah but he's not you wouldn't be
03:42:12.780
saying he's a terrible person because he wrote that song you'd be saying he's a terrible person because of
03:42:17.500
something else he did so you could be like wow i love this porn star but it's a shame she killed her
03:42:21.900
husband that's really terrible you know that that's what you're saying but what i'm saying is it's i
03:42:28.940
think it's interesting how men will say i love this porn star but she's fucking horrible slag i think it's
03:42:33.580
it's a bit well um well help me out here the person is doing heroin but they don't like heroin
03:42:40.220
dealers isn't that the same exact concept here yeah like and porn is an addiction so i think that is the
03:42:45.980
same yeah so if the idea here you think that people who are on heroin shouldn't criticize
03:42:51.420
heroin dealers well no absolutely like absolutely not that's not what i'm saying so when i tweeted
03:42:57.420
that two years ago it was when i was a lot more naive about the industry as well so i was
03:43:04.380
are you oh my god dude okay sorry what's going on
03:43:07.660
i don't know what's going on fucking back here you guys have been the most fucking dis dis disruptive
03:43:18.620
fucking panel we've had in a really fucking long time holy shit go ahead um yeah so like i said
03:43:26.300
earlier when i came on the show um i my views have changed on like the sex work industry and stuff like
03:43:32.700
that and i do believe that you know had my circumstances been different i wouldn't have
03:43:37.100
gotten into that industry and that's why you know i stopped making content and stuff like that but
03:43:42.060
when i tweeted that the point i was making was that i think it is
03:43:47.260
you know distasteful for men to actively shame women who do porn when they consume it
03:43:52.140
now my stance on it would be that porn is an addiction i don't think young men should be
03:43:56.460
watching it i don't think yeah but i don't understand how that relates what if they're
03:44:01.900
watching it but they're still criticizing the women who are in it this would be the exact same
03:44:07.740
concept as the heroin addict the heroin addict doesn't even make sense why because in this con
03:44:15.820
in the corn situation the person is the product and in the heroin situation the dealer is not the
03:44:25.020
product the heroin is the product so it's not the same no i i think it is a similar analogy i think
03:44:30.380
it does make sense whoa let's uh let's back up and let's just see if we can make sure if this tracks
03:44:36.780
or it doesn't track um i mean i could be wrong but just yeah i just i just want to make sure if this
03:44:43.180
tracks or doesn't track uh so your your idea here is that you must be the thing so this is just a basic
03:44:49.740
argument from hypocrisy that she's making she's saying uh that if you're for instance fat you
03:44:55.660
can't criticize fat people right uh things like this but it has the reason that an argument from
03:45:01.420
hypocrisy is fallacious is because it doesn't make any sense if you're a fat person you tell a fat person
03:45:06.700
that they would be a lot healthier if they weren't fat you would be correct right so what's and and
03:45:14.140
you would be correct so uh just tangling with it by saying well it's hypocritical doesn't mean
03:45:19.820
anything right well i didn't i didn't say it was uh hypocritical in the tweet i said it was
03:45:23.900
interesting and then i said my stance on it now is that i do believe that what makes it interesting
03:45:29.260
well but back then when i was active on only fans and stuff i was more pro-sex work so i had more of
03:45:36.860
the oh well if you're enjoying watching it and you're paying for it and stuff why are you coming on
03:45:40.620
here and you know yeah because you would be a hypocrite right yeah but i think it would be also
03:45:47.260
when i say it's interesting i'm interested to hear what men have to say about it not just to say men
03:45:53.020
shouldn't think that i would just be more interested to hear why men think that way but as i've gotten
03:45:58.380
older i do believe that it's an addiction yep i get it i understand your stance i'm not even objecting
03:46:04.460
to the stance i'm just saying that um when chair one says uh kybra says well wait a second no it's
03:46:12.060
not you can't you can't make this comparison because in one the woman is the product and the
03:46:17.340
other there's an external product it doesn't matter because the intent of the pusher is the same whether
03:46:21.980
they're the product or not the product it's totally irrelevant both criticisms are just an argument from
03:46:26.700
hypocrisy both of them so it's easy enough to just say okay but here's why that's uh that's faux
03:46:34.060
reasoning you shouldn't reason that way because it leads to bad conclusions essentially okay thank you
03:46:40.060
i have a question so if there's a demand why are you criticizing i'm sorry i have to move things on next
03:46:50.300
tweet i want to have you read it ruby it's your tweet go ahead
03:46:59.500
okay question for you high value men would you rather have a girl who has a high body count
03:47:07.580
yeah so yeah would you rather or has a high body count i just want to make sure yes so someone with
03:47:27.820
a high body count so say someone who slept with like i don't know 50 people or something but has
03:47:32.780
never made only fans content or someone who slept with two people but has made only fans content
03:47:39.980
okay then the i would take the one who has made only fans content with the lower body count if i
03:47:44.940
had to choose between the two i think i'd tend to agree if i had to choose between the two let's do the
03:47:50.220
next tweet i think i'm gonna say i think men prefer little titties okay next next what the
03:47:59.900
fuck okay i don't know okay next if men hate girls who do porn so much then stop watching it and put
03:48:08.540
them out of a job simple okay next we already talked about that if you're one of those people who
03:48:15.180
calls trans girls men boys then you can go ahead and unfollow me oh i should have you read them but
03:48:29.900
what's the term misgendering or whatever i think it's unreasonable say if there was a trans person
03:48:39.980
sat at this table and it was a trans woman and she looked like a woman i think it would be
03:48:44.620
really socially unreasonable to just say he him for like no reason politically i think it's different
03:48:51.340
but socially i don't yeah so if if we just say that if we even grant that it would be uh rude let's
03:48:57.980
actually just talk about kind of the more core underlying thing here uh is it a male or a female
03:49:03.740
so if uh transgender hold on the question is for her transgender woman is it a male or female or are
03:49:18.540
they a male or female do you mean like legally like in the eyes of the law then yes i don't care what
03:49:26.860
the law has to say yeah you are what you're born so biologically biologically yeah yeah like the person
03:49:36.540
or like go pop i got confused by the it what do you mean like when you said is it male or female
03:49:45.420
did you mean like is the trans person or are there parts private or male yeah i misspoke i meant i mean
03:49:53.020
no no hang on actually he spoke correctly you wouldn't even correct this this but it wouldn't
03:49:57.020
actually even make any sense to correct brian on this if you're on you you don't know what a thing
03:50:03.020
is it is referenced as it because you don't know what it is so it's totally correct inside of the
03:50:09.740
language that we speak to reference something if you don't know what it is to say it because
03:50:14.300
no well yeah she was she was trying to cancel me she's trying to cancel me because no no i actually
03:50:19.340
still have the clarifying question yeah you want me to define it no like when you asked her is it
03:50:24.300
female or male were you asking about the person or somebody has a child if somebody has a child you're
03:50:29.180
like oh is it a boy or a girl it is totally acceptable it is totally i didn't say you can't
03:50:35.100
say it i just said what did you mean no you're trying to like get me like oh no i'm really not
03:50:41.180
are you talking about is this person male or female or are their body parts male or female like
03:50:45.500
which one was your question now you're shifting the goalposts you were that's literally what i said
03:50:49.180
just play it back you're written no your original grievance was about the use of the word it
03:50:53.740
because that like i need a clarification because that confused me are you saying is this person a
03:50:59.820
male is it a boy or a girl in reference to a baby it's you just said in reference to a baby so in
03:51:05.260
reference to what when you asked her that in reference to what that's exactly my question okay
03:51:10.700
thank you that was so easy you don't know he didn't talk about dogs he talks about human being of
03:51:15.900
course i wasn't sure if he was maybe referring to like body parts or what okay because what why would
03:51:22.700
you ask that okay so transgender woman male or female are you asking me now yep biologically male i'm
03:51:37.740
when i'm thinking i'm not thinking because i don't know answer i'm thinking because i'm confused because
03:51:41.260
we're saying man when we mean women and women when we mean man and i think yeah so i think you are
03:51:46.780
biologically what you are but i also do believe socially that it's unnecessary to if someone fits
03:51:53.740
into if someone just comes in here looking like a girl i'm not going to say well are you really a girl
03:51:57.820
like i it's unnecessary in my opinion yeah perhaps but if having like a conversation about what's
03:52:03.260
intellectually true no i i that's another conversation i i agree that's totally different
03:52:09.740
okay well i actually want to talk about dating related to this so um would you object to a man who
03:52:17.900
uh refused would you object if a man refused to date a transgender woman would i object yeah do you think
03:52:25.820
that's objectionable or i think you should be able to date whoever you want okay so if he just i would
03:52:32.620
not date a trans woman no no quarrel no objections yeah yeah specifically for the reason that they're
03:52:39.980
a trans woman is what the audio is the audio phone okay what about you same i wouldn't object they can
03:52:47.260
just do whatever they like and want date whoever they love sure so you're fine with it yeah that's their
03:52:53.740
choice i mean yeah really true yeah it's fine it's just a sexual preference yeah i would object you would
03:52:59.340
object yeah why is that um because that's kind of like them being like bisexual and right like if
03:53:07.420
they like you're saying like if my boyfriend wanted to date a transgender person no no or like a random
03:53:15.980
man i think oh a random man yeah oh i still wouldn't date them if they wanted to you definitely did not
03:53:21.500
listen to the question at all let me repeat it do you would you object if a man did not want to date
03:53:29.260
a trans woman no i wouldn't okay no i wouldn't object no i think people are allowed to have
03:53:36.380
preferences i agree you know well it's not that i object i just think it's a man dressed up like a
03:53:43.660
woman it's not a woman it's not a woman if and if a man a regular man call himself straight and date
03:53:49.260
them i think he's just as delusional and off a little bit just like the other person who think
03:53:53.980
he's a different gender all right let me ask a follow-up question then uh is it straight as a
03:54:01.900
is it straight for a man to date a trans woman yes okay
03:54:11.020
no i actually would call that pansexual okay so not straight no it's not straight but it's not
03:54:17.180
gay either because gay men wouldn't go for trans women i think it's its own sexuality something niche
03:54:23.420
okay not straight he's gay not straight not straight not straight uh wait so you said yes straight yeah
03:54:36.140
okay um so question for you really quick and then we can't linger on this for too long
03:54:43.100
yeah uh so homosexual means same sex right uh yeah so when we say homosexual it means same
03:54:51.180
sex relationship yeah and you would agree that trans women have not changed their sex correct
03:54:59.580
um i don't know enough about the topic they change their to them they change their gender right
03:55:06.300
not their sex though they're still male uh sure i don't know okay maybe it's are you trying to get
03:55:12.060
me to say it's not straight well i'm just i mean so straight is short form slang for heterosexual okay
03:55:19.900
so if you have a male dating a male would you agree that that's a homosexual relationship yeah okay
03:55:29.740
it couldn't be ever a heterosexual relationship because they're both male right i'm not i'm not
03:55:35.740
married to the concept that it's straight i don't even actually know enough about this it's kind of
03:55:40.300
okay that's fine uh let's do the next tweet uh can you just read these please why is it that so
03:55:51.820
many men share the same irrational fear of being used for money that they don't have
03:55:58.460
it's an interest i've heard this before like they're scared of being gold dug but they don't
03:56:04.140
then i've got well it's it's simple it's just it's just based around potential whoa whoa whoa wait
03:56:09.900
wait wait wait what happened to the audio did you because it scuffed no no no no no uh okay i think
03:56:18.780
i do feel like that's in a very similar realm to andrew's tweet about uh that we referred to earlier
03:56:24.220
yeah yeah the uh the answer to this is pretty it's still bad no sorry go ahead keep talking andrew
03:56:32.620
oh um well the answer to this is pretty simple it's the idea is that most people get married young
03:56:39.580
right or at least they used to now the average age is 30 but if you're with a person uh especially in
03:56:45.100
your 20s it's going to be assumed that the man doesn't have very much in the way of resources and
03:56:49.980
they're generally married on resource potentiality and so the the idea here is that okay they
03:56:56.780
accumulate a ton of resources and then they get taken to the divorce court ringer uh so they're still
03:57:02.220
afraid that even if they don't currently have any resources that marrying a gold digger um they would
03:57:08.780
still look at the potential of of outcome of resources and take them take them to the cleaner for it right
03:57:14.140
that's very insightful okay next i guess no objections
03:57:29.020
can you read these please oh okay controversial opinion but men need to work on themselves instead
03:57:34.300
of expecting women to lower their expectations i can bet you almost anything that the majority of
03:57:40.460
these men do not have a lot of the following fit body from regular gym eating healthy having a job
03:57:47.180
where he works hard having good manners and having good social skills i'm talking specifically about
03:57:54.460
you know the kind of men that will you know be on reddit like really hating women like incels and
03:58:01.100
stuff i'm not talking about general you know nice men that are just nice can you pull it back up really
03:58:08.540
uh men need to work on themselves instead of expecting women to okay so you're talking about incels
03:58:22.780
i'm talking about men who complain about women's standards being too high are they wrong
03:58:29.660
well it depends if if the woman's actually high austin you know that photo with the list that we've been
03:58:34.860
meaning to pull up it's like that woman in the restaurant and there she's got like a list
03:58:43.740
i'm just curious you tell me this this this is what this woman wants 5 11 plus responds to text
03:58:48.460
in under two hours pays for dinner makes a plan liberal but can lift heavy things so physically fit
03:58:55.180
also she just to be clear pays for dinner so she wants a provider but she also wants a progressive
03:59:00.860
liberal man aka she's a feminist aka she's not traditional but she's demanding traditional
03:59:06.140
treatment has a passport pretends to listen when i talk about taylor swift guys don't want to do that
03:59:11.260
shit and also six-figure salary uh i think it's what 15 of men or i don't know the exact numbers
03:59:18.140
what the breakdown is in terms of salary but she wants a guy who makes over a hundred thousand
03:59:21.580
dollars a year and austin can you zoom in a little bit like make it big zoom in zoom in zoom in and
03:59:27.180
then scroll down to her mention note she wanted a physically fit man but scroll in on the arm
03:59:37.580
hmm hmm funny funny in it um maybe she wants a guy to lead her to a healthy lifestyle
03:59:48.300
are her expectations too high she's an average looking overweight woman yeah i would say so and
03:59:57.660
i would say the the list that she has there is different from the list in the other tweet which
04:00:03.820
was like do you have a job are you nice there was a yo you wait you were responding to a tweet
04:00:11.500
no i wasn't responding to her tweet no no no you were responding to a tweet no no no i wasn't oh okay
04:00:18.300
it just seems to me like a lot of women want a six-foot guy 100 000 a year but it doesn't say
04:00:25.100
any i didn't say that i've never said that okay but that's those are the complaints that men are
04:00:30.300
having when it comes to their perception of women having high expectations you want a guy who's six
04:00:36.860
foot makes this is this much money funny charismatic nice all these like all the million traits
04:00:42.540
just like okay you want a guy who's six foot that's only 15 percent of men you've just excluded 85
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percent of men just based on height i'm not saying i'm not talking about you i'm saying in general a
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lot of women want a tall guy i think those are pretty pretty bad values in my opinion sure okay like
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listing them out like that that's not like what i look for i think it's actually um it is wait it's not
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not what you look for like height and all that stuff no okay how tall how tall was your last
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boyfriend um i think he was like six two six two yeah oh so like that's the one that you broke up
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with three months ago he broke up with me but you dated him as recently as three months ago yeah but he
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was six two which is four inches taller than the average male height and also is like two or three
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percent of men but okay your 2.5 year relationship how tall was he um i think he was um maybe around
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that height six two like six one six foot well women say they don't care about these things
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but conveniently how tall are you i'm five eight okay conveniently
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the two relationships that you've disclosed on this panel yeah they happen to be tall i mean so
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um the guy before that was the same height as me okay sure that's fine i was just saying like those
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don't seem like very good values i feel like when you're looking for a partner your number one thing
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or like i'll just speak for myself it's like do i like who i am around this person do they inspire
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me to be a better person it's like that kind of thing that's fair well i don't know how you get
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around attraction though oh yeah no attraction is real too but it's attraction yeah but i mean some women
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are going to be attracted to taller men right so it's like it's not really a detriment and value
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for women to say i'm attracted to tall men i don't know that anybody would really object to that because
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attraction is a thing which uh which all relationships start with right there has to be some kind of some
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kind of attraction there there might be some outlier relationships where you know they all they care
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about is emotions but physical attraction seems to be a key pinnacle foundation for most relationships
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between men and women okay let's let's do the next next tweet would you ever suspect that i ruined
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men's arseholes for living oh i should have had you said that well
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did you want a comment on the tweet no i just saw your tweet and thought that was interesting
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uh when was that tweeted by the way can you when was that okay a while ago very long time ago and
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i for just the record you know have been quite honest and open that my views have changed in
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the last you know like two three four years and stuff like that you want to read this one 2014 was 16
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years old yeah okay moving on go ahead read this one please i don't know the answer but it doesn't
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matter it still validates my point that women are scared of men is that in a response to something
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uh it looks like it is but austin can you see what what it is before we pull it up
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i think it's fine i think i know what it is you can pull it up
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men are afraid women will laugh at them women are afraid men will kill them okay
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uh andrew i feel like you might have thoughts on this one this is a common sort of uh feminist
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talking point uh do you have any well i mean it depends on what we're talking about i wasn't
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able to read the second part of the tweet there uh but i believe that you're referencing the office
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of national statistics um and this is an office which is in the uk if i remember correctly is that
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right yeah yeah and so the office of national statistics in the uk is talking about violent
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assaults or is it talking about unaliving or what's it talking about uh can we put it back up
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because i didn't get a chance to read it either sorry
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i mean i was more just interested in the first tweet the secondary tweet is not particularly
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interesting i mean so yeah i don't know the answer but it doesn't yeah it still validates my points
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that women are scared of men so yeah the kind of talking point here from the feminist side is that
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uh well wait women are women are terrified of men because it could get physically assaulted
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um and we can kind of quibble over when it comes to dv and things like that who's really assaulting who
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uh but i don't think that that would invalidate any type of fear when you say that well men are afraid
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of getting laughed at by women no they have other legitimate fears of women like being falsely accused
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of certain things or being me too or any number of various things uh which they run into with women
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and those seem like they're just as legitimate of fear as uh as women when they talk about uh these
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other things such as dv and and things like this so yeah i totally agree i mean i think that tweet is
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like two years old but i have since learned that you know a lot of men commit murders but also a lot
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of men are also victims of murders and a lot of violence is men on men as well so thank you robert
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my um also a woman on man and yeah no this is often overlooked that uh when we when we're looking
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at the national statistic rates and domestic violence now uh you can make make even a good argument that
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women are uh participating in dv towards men even more than men are towards women and uh i can if we got
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into you know essay stats i could give you some good ones on that as well uh but no it's not really
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very cut and dry uh when it comes to the stats of who's really doing what to who yeah no definitely
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i would agree and my opinion on that kind of stuff has changed as i as i've gotten a bit older as i've
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been in like the relationship that i'm in now as well and learn a lot more um so you have a do you
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it sounds like a man came in and just like fixed me now it's her brainwashed your
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bullshit that's what it sounds like is that what happened yeah like some some jad came in and was
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like listen all this stuff that you're talking is bullshit and we need to fix it is that what happened
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i used to be incredibly wokey and but it was you know i was uneducated in that sense i didn't know
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much about politics and stuff but i had a what i thought was a good heart and i thought i was you
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know doing the right thing and fighting the good fight and all that kind of stuff but um
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um no that's it's pretty accurate you know when i met my partner he definitely taught me a lot and
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you know i started to see the world how it really is thank you rob thank you robert fix that you
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should fix ever calling him your partner wait what should nobody ever nobody ever wants to hear my
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partner it's that's awful maybe it's a british thing yeah i feel you wait go back to the tweet
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really quick just pull it up to the top yeah the top of it
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men are afraid so this is really the more interesting one though men are afraid women will
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laugh at them this is the one the the sort of feminist trope women are afraid men will kill them
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i mean it sort of downplays the amount of catastrophe women can inflict on men and sort of tends to paint all
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men as these predators or violent or this sort of thing i mean typical feminist trope that uh women
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are wonderful and men are uh predators and this sort of thing but um it'd kind of be like
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if a if a man said um pull it back up really quick just so i can think of the like a sort of counter
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hmm well sort of chuck them and then what pull it back up please pull it back up women are afraid
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women or women are afraid that men will chuck them and men are afraid that women will falsely accuse
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them of rape and then they'll spend 10 years in prison it's just kind of like okay bro yeah and one of the
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ways uh just a very quick analogy before he moves on that i often will use here is uh if you think
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about when you're walking down the street at night if a group of men is approaching you you very well may
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cross the street and i don't think anybody would blame you but women seem to get very upset that men
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won't hire women even though it's the same exact concept the same exact concept is uh this could really
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lead to a really bad outcome for me if i stay on the street where these men are approaching me
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is the same exact concept of this could lead to a really bad outcome for me if i hire females in
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my office place i guess both are scared from one another for certain things it's just human
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in a whole office though like only men or like certain positions the woman is not qualifying because
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i get that well well like any any listen any time a man take hires a woman he's taking a risk that he
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would not be taking with a man that is the truth that's true and so because that is true that's
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true um i understand why men guard themselves from this because of the reputational damage which can
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occur or the financial damage or even the prison which could occur from an even an allegation which
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could cost him his entire company a livelihood that he would not have to deal with with men so i understand
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why they would select for men over women when it came to any job and i think that this is the same
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kind of logic that women have where they don't think that the men who are walking towards them
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necessarily are going to do anything to them but why not be on the safe side it's the same thing when
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men are hiring women right i'm not i'm not necessarily saying that she's going to do anything but why take
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the risk right but if you're a business owner like you genuinely wouldn't take the risk at all you know just
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knowing that there are media outlets that are pc or whatever like you just would you take the risk
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of the man of the men at night no so i mean i am a business owner i'm going to be honest like i'm
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a business owner i have taken a risk hiring a woman who actually ended up not but he's not talking about
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you everything he actually asked me no but okay well would you be speaking in general okay wait
04:11:31.740
hang on hang on let's finish our exchange let's finish our exchange yeah if if it was a street
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that i knew to be dangerous and it was dark then no yeah then no right exactly logically no same with
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the hiring same this well this is the same kind of mindset that men have that you use for hiring i
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see they're thinking the same thing they're not thinking that that everyone was going to do this or
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even most right but just the fact that they're a woman adds to this potential so it's a risk most men are
04:12:00.540
not going to assault you at night they're not going to yeah no i agree i'm only even calling
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because i'm surprised just your so what you're doing is you're leaning on the side of caution right yes i
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agree wait so are you saying that you don't think women should get hired no he's saying the risk for
04:12:16.940
him is just not worth it you know hang on hang on since i understand that you know a little bit about
04:12:21.420
basic logic uh can you tell me the distinction between an is statement and an ought statement what is
04:12:27.580
the difference between a descriptor and a prescriptor can you tell me the difference real
04:12:31.980
quick wait how is this relevant yeah what's the difference between a descriptor and a prescriptor
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what are you like a description versus prescription because you just made an
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ought claim so you're what you're saying is we ought do no honestly honestly i did kind of grossly i did
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kind of grossly descriptive claims i gave two descriptors i did not give a prescription so why
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did you assume an ought why did you assume that i think x needs to happen when all i did was give a
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descriptor for two things which exist um so robert tanner so what were you saying you're just saying that
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it's like risky or what yeah i'm saying that that men who hire women are taking more of a risk than if they
04:13:16.780
hire men and i think that women if they're being approached by men at night are taking more of a
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risk than men oh okay yeah they're they're descriptors so do you think it's like okay to
04:13:29.580
where did you get the ought claim of so what you're really saying is this where did that even come into
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your brain can you tell me the exact moment that though so what you're really saying is actually came
04:13:39.740
into your brain i was i was being a little confrontational i'm sorry but you were about to
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say do you think it's okay what um i was trying to figure out like because there's anti-discrimination
04:13:51.740
laws about that sort of thing like how do you feel about those wait but you were no no you were about
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to say do you think it's okay if what oh um i lost my train of thought if uh if if men don't hire women
04:14:05.100
do i think that's okay yeah just for the reason yeah i think it's fine like if every single male ceo
04:14:11.500
didn't hire women yeah would you like it would you say that you like it i'm curious i that i think
04:14:18.460
that if uh do you think it's positive for society yeah so i think if it could be demonstrated that
04:14:24.700
the risk uh is is highly mitigated uh somehow through some set course of laws or values and now
04:14:31.500
suddenly women don't pose more of a risk towards men in the workplace uh who happen to be their
04:14:36.140
superiors then i would be fine with it but since that is not the case i have no problem with men
04:14:41.820
selecting who they want to hire and who they don't want to hire and by the way who the hell is anybody
04:14:47.500
to tell anybody who they need to hire for their business anyway it's none of your damn business
04:14:52.700
it's literally none of your damn business if if a man says i don't want to hire any women just
04:14:57.580
because they're women why the hell is that any of your business i can speak from experience my
04:15:03.420
partner and i own a company and we now don't hire women because they mess us around so much so we
04:15:09.820
actually just we avoid well it's the same thing in the content creation world here's a dirty secret
04:15:15.340
right many many men male content creators will not work with female content creators because
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of how many problems they cause inside of the content creation space when it comes to slander
04:15:27.900
reputational damage allegations all sorts of things for drumming up drama it's a really bad idea a lot
04:15:34.060
of women in the female content creator space also prefer to work with men over women because of this
04:15:40.380
type of drama and slander which occurs so it doesn't surprise me a bit um and this is this seems to be
04:15:46.780
universalized uh regardless of the industry it's uh it's a much higher risk and so no so my answer
04:15:53.820
very specifically is if men don't want to hire uh women am i for that yes absolutely so what is your
04:16:07.420
the government position on what because on affirmative action on affirmative action for women and hiring
04:16:12.700
status quo it's all a bunch of bullshit that's totally illogical and can't be backed up by any
04:16:17.660
moral stance whatsoever that's my take on it um i meant the anti-discrimination laws when it comes to
04:16:24.700
hiring yeah i just told you when it comes to anti-discriminatory laws it's none of the government's
04:16:31.020
business what a private individual does with their business and who they choose to hire is none of
04:16:37.420
anybody's damn business and it never has been ever and saying that they need to have a quota like in
04:16:43.260
california where if you have over 15 employees now suddenly we have to have a diversity quota
04:16:47.740
not only is that unconstitutional where framers would roll over in their grave but i think it's
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immoral and what's more uh i've never heard a good justified argument for it other than
04:16:58.060
but people people were historically discriminated against it's like they're still discriminated against
04:17:04.060
it's just that now we have laws that they evade they still don't want to hire women they just try
04:17:09.020
to evade the laws so that they don't hire women i have one question though that came up um like if you're
04:17:15.980
a woman let's say you are getting a divorce with your husband and you you're let's just say you discover
04:17:23.100
this female lawyer that has a lot of cases and representing women in these divorce cases then i think like
04:17:31.020
we could even debate like in this case would it be lower risk to hire this woman versus a man like
04:17:38.620
a random man divorce lawyer all sorts of isolated cases okay because you said like universal across
04:17:45.340
industries and that's actually what came up to mind uh-huh well hang on i'm trying to answer the
04:17:49.820
question for you right so i think that you can point to all sorts of individual cases where it could be
04:17:54.220
superior to hire a woman over a man right there's all sorts of those but that should be completely and totally
04:18:00.700
up to the employer to make such a decision on behalf of this firm should not be up in any way
04:18:06.140
shape or form to the government it's none of their damn business what a person does with their firm
04:18:11.180
and never has been any of their business what a person does with the firm it's a bunch of
04:18:15.260
woke progressive crazies who endlessly demand that such a thing be done and it's not good for anyway
04:18:21.020
it's not good for society it's not good for the workers it's not good for the business not good
04:18:24.780
for anybody and it suppresses wages by the way there's there's a question though i have a question
04:18:30.300
for for andrew so if there if you're a woman let's put you in a perspective of a woman and you're super
04:18:38.060
qualified for this job but this guy doesn't want to hire you because you're a woman how would you go
04:18:43.660
about that situation like how would you i would personally i'd say that's freedom baby that's freedom
04:18:49.020
right aren't we all about freedom aren't we all about the freedom truly i would i have i have a
04:18:55.260
question so like let's say you're a man who's never committed any crime you would never strike a woman
04:19:00.380
you would never attack a woman you'd never do any harm to a woman and you are walking down the street at
04:19:06.060
night and a woman's coming and then you see her and then she's like crosses the street in fear in fear
04:19:14.300
and you are made to feel like you're less than you're a predator there's this assumption that
04:19:20.860
you would have you would have victimized her had she not done this how's the man supposed to
04:19:27.100
i would just be like what the hell is wrong with her honestly but i don't know i just i guess i mean
04:19:31.820
you can say that to the point like just play devil's advocate like you really just could go apply
04:19:36.780
somewhere else just like how you know that man you know maybe he shouldn't feel like his feelings are
04:19:41.500
hurt i want like maybe don't take it really quick on that thing really quick on that thing
04:19:46.380
like it's this interesting thing it's like well you know oh just his feelings are hurt but like what's
04:19:51.100
worse a woman doesn't get a specific job or women paint all men as predator violent
04:19:59.020
grapists i kind of feel like one is worse than the other i think why do they always want to work for
04:20:07.020
a bunch of predators anyway why are we comparing a bunch of predators and they're like we can't
04:20:12.060
wait to go work for them though well that's like saying why would you want to put food okay really
04:20:15.900
quick and then i'm going to move it on i want to answer this first of all it's not black and white
04:20:20.300
it's not all men predators and all women want to think that men predators because i've seen both sides
04:20:26.460
especially in the middle east so we have to to take every case specifically yes a lot of women's
04:20:32.940
nowadays especially in america complaining they use men but in the other hand they want to blame
04:20:38.620
them and attack them but if you have a really high qualified woman and you look at her history
04:20:43.180
she never complained of anybody she come to work just to work i would actually look at that case and
04:20:49.020
yes hire her but if somebody who's sorry to say about younger would come and it's it's you know one of
04:20:55.020
her first few jobs right and she goes really really by the book and she have this feminist mentality i
04:21:01.340
would not hire her but you really need to select the people good but you cannot classify people
04:21:07.020
black or white in that specific matter because i think both of us male and feeling female in both
04:21:13.100
sides of the equation a lot of men did rape women a lot of men did do things not specifically here but
04:21:18.780
you know maybe if you hadn't been on your phone while austin was giving the pre-show instructions mind
04:21:23.820
you took into me you've you've been on the show three times you've heard the pre-show instructions
04:21:28.780
three times we ask you not to use this word what word she doesn't even know she's been here three
04:21:35.980
times i i in fact in fact i scolded you on your first time on the show we try to avoid these words
04:21:42.860
because youtube and these platforms tend to penalize you if you use these words anyways for that reason
04:21:48.540
i have to move things on go ahead austin can we do the next tweet all right ruby can you read it please
04:21:54.940
uh you want me to read it not that word just use an essay on that word okay uh and is this so if men
04:22:04.540
stop okay yeah you can read it just say great okay is this in response i don't even okay if men stop
04:22:10.380
killing and are in women that would help not all men but not enough men do it my friend was kidnapped
04:22:19.660
in her taxi and our word and i've been attacked by men on nights out groped in clubs friends have been
04:22:24.860
followed home the list goes on so i think that's a response to something and it is a true story i mean
04:22:30.700
like i said before i definitely don't have the same woke opinion of oh my god men are this like
04:22:35.420
i do think that's you know well i think that changes my age but i do know yeah we i guess we
04:22:40.300
already kind of delved into the whole thing but it's very sad to the girl that happened to us but
04:22:45.100
i i mean like to andrew's point if like enough women create conflict in the workplace is it fair for
04:22:50.620
the men to choose to not hire women then well yeah and i know like i said plenty of women that won't
04:22:56.140
hire women as well yeah because and it's not even just that they cause conflict it's that they call
04:23:01.580
in sick more they can't take any criticism that's all conflict that's all causing well yeah i mean
04:23:07.340
instead of social conflict though they'll be oh you know i don't feel well i'm really stressed and
04:23:12.060
this was men just get on let's do the next tweet
04:23:16.380
i've had cbt and dbt i think the issue is men are
04:23:21.020
you want to read it if i pull these up can you just read it okay yeah i've had cbt and dbt and i think
04:23:27.180
the issue is men are trash so cbt cognitive behavioral therapy what's dbt uh dialectical
04:23:34.540
behavioral therapy okay and so men are trash why do you say that so i think yeah that's just another
04:23:41.420
like three or four year old tweet from when i was just immature then upset so i thought it was okay to
04:23:46.380
tweet stuff like that oh okay all right so you had all that therapy and all it took was a man to fix
04:23:51.420
your ass that's crazy it is interesting that's a good point that's a really good yeah all that
04:23:57.420
psychologizing all it took was a man and suddenly you're fixed isn't that amazing this is what the
04:24:02.460
point i was making earlier is i think you know women are very vulnerable and if you don't have
04:24:06.860
like that great father figure when you're growing up it can lead women into you know radical feminism
04:24:11.340
and you don't even feel that way you're just led into it and all it takes is you know exactly
04:24:16.220
someone to change your perspective and you can be like holy crap what was i doing were your
04:24:19.820
therapists were your therapists men or women uh men but i was very young so i didn't really
04:24:33.660
men you owe me dollar dollar bills for this education feminism equality slut shaming wife material
04:24:42.140
wait click on the photo yeah i think we'll need the photos and then you'll do the arrow a guide to
04:24:46.860
the wifey material complex also known as the first okay next ever heard a guy say crap like this i
04:24:52.140
prefer girls who are naturally beautiful not not interested she fucked me up wait what i don't want
04:24:57.020
a girl who other guys look at the sex is too good she's not marriage material she's sexy not pretty i can
04:25:01.900
okay all right next telling women not to have sex with him on the first date don't text him first
04:25:24.220
i don't know so what is it about the madonna whore complex or something i don't know
04:25:28.140
yeah i couldn't read it all quickly but when was that tweet from i don't know all right next one then
04:25:32.620
i mean i do feel like you're going to get the same answers for every single tweet because all the
04:25:39.900
tweets are from like 2021 2022 read it okay listen up men all women are superior i'm so happy he
04:25:47.260
understood so quickly the powerful woman has no need to tear other women down it's disgusting seeing
04:25:52.940
all the doms who are commenting agreeing fellow s workers you are uh follow s workers or your colleagues
04:25:59.820
and your equals but what are the tweets a single penis saved and saved it all see
04:26:11.100
just a single guy changed all the entire attitude of all this
04:26:15.100
bullshit you know what i mean i think it's also age i think it is definitely an age thing because
04:26:22.620
all women are superior you would get you would get cancelled if you said this
04:26:27.740
shit as a man by the way you know what i would love it if either of you two had twitter when you
04:26:32.780
were what 20 or 19 and i would love to see yeah i had some uh i had some pretty cringe libertarian
04:26:39.980
takes when i was young i think if you're not if you're not a liberal when you're young i'll admit
04:26:43.740
to that but i was always always the base individual you see before you mine is some cringe libertarian
04:26:49.660
takes that i had wait so what what you said if you're not a liberal when you're young or well
04:26:54.460
there's that saying isn't it if you're not a liberal when you're young you've got no heart
04:26:57.660
but if you're still a liberal when you're older you've got no brain you're not that old
04:27:03.340
but i'm getting that's for that's for like 30 40 50 year old women not for women in their 20s
04:27:08.700
what happened was chad came and fixed you right chad came and he saw it open your skull and he fixed
04:27:14.620
your brain right he thought he he was like well that doesn't belong there he threw that shit out
04:27:18.540
yeah well that doesn't belong there either he threw that behind his shoulder
04:27:22.380
right and then he stitched it back up and then and you were fine right literally
04:27:27.740
what's up with the like save damsel like like maybe it's just life experiences
04:27:34.380
no no it's true it is true though it is true like i i can be the first to say like i lacked guidance
04:27:40.060
from a father figure in my life and i was sort of you know guided into the industry that i got into
04:27:47.580
into the adult industry when i you know wouldn't have done that if i just had you know a father
04:27:52.220
figure or you know it's just better people in my life being like you shouldn't you want to do that
04:27:57.500
because there's some negative consequences to that but then you know meeting another person not only
04:28:03.740
it's not just that he says don't do this and i'm like yes okay he obviously shows me things he teaches
04:28:07.980
me things you know and enlightens me and then i can decide for myself that i believe the same things as
04:28:12.700
him and you know adopt them as my own values as well so it's not just a case of a man telling you
04:28:18.540
what to do and you obey he he teaches and so he was kind of like stepping in in the figure like role
04:28:26.220
model kind of somewhat i don't think you know that kind of i guess just kind of saying you know have
04:28:34.060
you thought about things this way and then we go oh yeah okay that that makes sense i see yeah next
04:28:39.580
imagine okay can do you want to read it or imagine commenting then blocking so i can't reply
04:28:48.380
obviously because you know she's full of crap being a dom is not about being nasty everything
04:28:53.500
has to be consensual i may be new to twitter but i'm a dom in real life this is my kink i think this
04:29:00.220
was just about some girls being nasty to people and my point was that being nasty doesn't make you
04:29:05.580
dominant and talking over people doesn't make you dominant next i'll say she like one of my first
04:29:17.820
i'm a dom and here to make men suffer to make myself richer
04:29:22.300
2020. so you're like fin dom or dom? that was what i started doing yeah at the advice
04:29:28.300
you still do it or no no at the advice of who uh so it was my ex-partner who was uh
04:29:36.460
a porn addict actually who sort of got me into doing this kind of stuff when i was a lot younger
04:29:45.740
whoa okay this is a lot can you read read it um i can but it's just chat gpt so it's just for views
04:29:56.540
so it's just a made-up story to get people to read oh it's not real no it's just like for content
04:30:02.460
just for twitter so my twitter's wait scroll down to the date the date on it oh careful pro okay
04:30:10.700
but yeah so it's just the moment you see a picture on twitter man you just shouldn't even okay all
04:30:19.340
is it cardi b lyrics uh i don't think men like toxic bitches just saying
04:30:32.780
okay yeah no i'll stand by this one something that gives me the ick is when a grown man uses the
04:30:42.300
word tummy instead of stomach i mean i don't know if that's a british thing man recently used the word
04:30:49.500
tummy he told another man to lift up his shirt and let him see his tummy in fact i just wanted to
04:30:54.220
to so i'm i'm gonna agree with you on this i've seen this firsthand and yeah that would i agree with that take
04:31:03.020
all right let's do the next one and then we do have more tweets but really quick jj mad says feminism
04:31:09.100
is the belief that women's vaginas can never smell bad what okay women's sports are as good as
04:31:14.940
male sports are even better and women can also fight in wars because wonder woman is a movie
04:31:19.900
hey yo uh jj thank you so much man really appreciate it thank you for the super chat if
04:31:24.780
you want to get the message in hundred dollars to read uh two hundred dollars for tts thank you man
04:31:30.060
appreciate it now going to um uh you have three different names or whatever call me yes uh actually
04:31:40.300
wait quickly before we do that there's some images at the very end i want to go there first and then
04:31:48.540
we'll go to the tweets and then we'll get into other people's pre-show notes the chair one
04:31:58.140
ah yes this is you oh yeah okay so i i have before you pull it up i have a question so yeah uh we always
04:32:05.500
i always do a deep dive on people's instagrams and socials and so forth before the show uh i'm curious
04:32:13.420
what happened so uh let's see the first photo oh my god okay so that's you the third one over
04:32:22.220
right yeah okay so that's you i don't know cheerleader in high school and then next scroll
04:32:30.380
scroll through too big scroll it out a bit yeah all right i don't even smoke i just thought i looked
04:32:36.460
next oh wait that's somebody else okay i mean and then there's a bunch of other like on your
04:32:42.220
instagram or whatever so what what happened from like cheerleader in high school to like i'm now a
04:32:48.940
e-girl oh emo goth whatever what's the story there did you watch batman you watched batman didn't you
04:32:56.380
i watched i watched batman and then my whole life my whole life changed no i'm just kidding um so even
04:33:03.260
when i was a cheerleader i was actually also a skater too and like so i was always kind of like
04:33:09.100
a little whatever you know but um i don't know it's just a style that i like and i know that
04:33:18.700
usually you see people and you're like oh this person's just like wearing clothes but it's not like
04:33:25.260
i don't know um i don't know what to say about it i know that was it wasn't looking for anything to
04:33:33.100
deep i was just curious like i don't know did some guy break up with you and you're like i'm gonna
04:33:39.180
oh no i just think the style is super cool okay and then we have a photo for kami
04:33:46.380
i had questions also let's get her photo no no no no it's like all the way at the end
04:33:53.660
it's like that photo with the cake that you had yeah wait all right pull it up oh wait you don't
04:34:00.060
want the cake that you just showed wait click this one oh that's fine i'm like as long as you
04:34:06.940
don't show the yeah yeah so yes so here here's this right yes make it bigger okay or you believe
04:34:18.060
and then this is you like shaming like one of your findom subs or whatever with like a small
04:34:28.380
dick yeah this year wow and that photo the one with you and the cake that's from i think 10 years
04:34:33.740
ago or something so what happened between then then and then you doing and we have to pull up your
04:34:41.660
tweets because we'll see those but yeah and then doing fin dumb and going like this to basically
04:34:49.500
uh humiliate men online yeah i wish you showed more photos showing the progress because a lot happened
04:34:55.980
like just in general in my life like before i was very believe it or not i was very anti-adult work
04:35:02.460
and i actually like even during covid when a lot of people had you know ofs and stuff like i was
04:35:09.260
honestly a little judgmental like i'm not gonna lie and then i discovered um on twitter findom which
04:35:17.180
was this thing that this is like my origin story this thing that basically described like my general
04:35:23.500
like life and relationships with guys uh my ex ex like when he asked me to be his girlfriend i actually
04:35:30.460
was kind of like like let me think about it like you know can we just get to know each other for like
04:35:35.740
three more weeks and then right and then literally the day i told him like you know i thought about
04:35:40.940
i really like you like i want to be your girlfriend if like the offer still stands and he gave me like
04:35:45.260
his credit card and just you know he wasn't even a fin sub he just had that like role i guess of you
04:35:52.860
know provider or whatever but he did like seeing me have like a more luxury lifestyle or whatever like
04:35:58.460
you know provided by him and this very similar thing happened with my ex and then when i discovered
04:36:04.860
findom on twitter i felt honestly like it was like i found found kind of like my community um and like
04:36:14.540
it's been like a long journey since then like i won't bore you guys with the details but like
04:36:18.300
that's kind of the general vibe it's been a journey though uh-huh wait what it's been a journey it's been
04:36:23.340
quite a journey it's been a journey it's been a journey because it started off with like findom you
04:36:28.460
know like i don't care about your guys it's mental health like you know like i didn't think about
04:36:32.060
those things because i was 22 and then i took a break when i started to think about those things
04:36:38.300
for until beginning of last year and then also like i always liked fem dom and then i you know found
04:36:45.420
these kind of these like og doms who are more into like mindful practice like longer term kind of like ds
04:36:52.940
relationships and i was like you know i think that's pretty cool i want to try it like try to have
04:36:58.140
these kind of subs and see how it's different and i'm going to say it's not as lucrative but i never
04:37:02.860
did it for the money um i felt like it was like kind of like finding my community and my people and
04:37:07.580
like it's very heavily stigmatized because it is adult work like in the beginning when i took my hiatus
04:37:14.540
i was actually kind of in denial about it being sex work because like it was like non-nude and you know
04:37:20.620
all that stuff usually like i don't i wasn't even showing cleavage that year um really and yeah i
04:37:28.060
later was like you know i do accept that this makes me happy and gives me you know fulfillment
04:37:33.900
okay that was the long let's let's get into the tweets
04:37:37.100
yeah we can so there's this is it the site first i think we can pull we'll pull that up then we'll
04:37:51.260
get into the tweets yeah oh f11 okay um we won't linger on this for long but make it big
04:37:58.940
big so i can see it you're an elite elite asian fight financial dominatrix and pro dom
04:38:07.180
it's 45 initial tribute i'm assuming the tribute like they have to pay you 45 just for you to respond
04:38:15.020
to an initial message correct basically yes okay then you have a debt contract for 88 or something
04:38:22.300
slave contract for 111 scroll down scroll down scroll down scroll down scroll down scroll down
04:38:26.940
okay a bunch of other stuff ira you do wait you do irl sessions wait wait stay there uh ira yeah
04:38:34.860
yeah right there irl sessions under cash meets yes because usually the terms are used interchangeably
04:38:41.580
like sessions meets and then a bunch of subs or potential subs got confused so i put both so cash
04:38:47.420
meet is just basically meet up in person for money yeah okay like just hand you cash ATM date shopping
04:38:53.180
date so ATM date what is that i really want one it's like basically just when you guys go to an ATM
04:38:58.540
you don't look at his password or anything you tell him how much to withdraw he just withdraws and
04:39:01.900
and gives it to you and then okay shopping i'm mad just imagine this prostitute talking
04:39:06.060
about my wife ever oh shit was that a hot was that a hop i'm sorry i'm sorry about that yeah that definitely
04:39:12.860
we heard that yeah and i realized earlier when i said a thousand days i literally just met lunch and
04:39:19.900
dinner dates i just wanted to clarify okay i've not slept with that many guys wait go back up i don't
04:39:25.900
think i finished the rest of the uh i come bookings uh deposit is 150 okay body worship cbt what the
04:39:34.780
fuck okay better training don subject okay scroll down scroll down two hours 150 dollars uh you do irl
04:39:41.900
cuckolding or double dom you get cucked by you and your fiancee what the have you guys done this yeah so they pay
04:39:49.100
you 300 they pay you 300 and then they i love it they get to watch they get to sit in the corner or
04:39:55.500
some shit yeah sometimes we like tie them up like blindfold them and tie them up like to a chair and
04:40:02.860
then like they can't see anything or sometimes i'll like cover with a blanket and like you know wear a
04:40:07.900
bra because um they don't deserve to see that and then the what's the bottom what's at the bottom
04:40:13.820
here virtual i'll scroll down a bit more scroll down scroll down is that coaching for uh you teach
04:40:21.740
women how to do this too okay next i actually yeah you know what i have that but i actually don't
04:40:26.700
and then you do the cash meets la santa barbara 100 okay so do you like is it escorting like you
04:40:34.220
sleep with the dudes or no no okay no even the cuckolding it's literally just strictly me and my
04:40:39.980
fiancee i'm monogamous yes in terms of intercourse oh this is you doing okay yeah okay can i have you
04:40:48.540
read these okay i'll be gracing you losers with my holy presence to celebrate my birthday with my
04:40:54.300
obedient slaves and mutts live all the way from paradise in hawaii scroll down or actually don't
04:40:59.500
scroll down fuck it next wait it's not okay i think it's safe for work the fantasy you didn't know
04:41:05.420
you had being passed around by two hottest brightest asian doms me and goddess vanity
04:41:12.220
lucky for you send each doms tribute plus 20 and we'll make a group chat and mercilessly drain your
04:41:17.580
bank account yeah i have a question for you if uh if a guy like part of his kink involved him like
04:41:23.660
spending so much money on you that you would end up like bankrupting him would you do it so um the
04:41:30.380
year that i started findom and i didn't realize how common this actually is like i basically was
04:41:36.700
doing and they wouldn't even tell me they would just be like drain me more but actually now i will
04:41:40.540
ask like their salary i will get an idea of their bills and make a conscious decision not to drain
04:41:46.300
them to like literally zero have you drained have you drained a guy have i drained a guy yeah yeah to
04:41:53.420
zero to zero to zero in 2021 uh 20 2021 yes there was this guy he was telling me and then he said he
04:42:04.700
wasn't paying off his credit cards so he then he had debt and had to quit fin dom so even though i
04:42:10.700
didn't drain his bank account to zero he told me that and then that's when we you know part of ways but
04:42:16.940
yeah wait did somebody in the chat says i might have missed this earlier said that you um your
04:42:23.420
husband's a millionaire so my ex and my ex ex they are millionaires and then my current fiance like
04:42:33.580
around one million net worth but he's not making like a million a year so by definition technically
04:42:39.900
he's a millionaire okay his net worth does he work a normal job yeah he does actually like you like
04:42:46.780
six figures yes yes like tech lead at a big tech company which is the background i came from we
04:42:52.380
actually met through like industry work he's 26 he's one day older than me he's 26 and he's a net
04:42:58.620
worth of a million yeah why are why are you guys meeting up with random dudes and fucking in front
04:43:04.620
of them for 150 dollars it's truly truly just because we love it like the price actually drives away a
04:43:12.380
bunch of like flaky people um otherwise we'll just do it for like i think that's i mean it seems low
04:43:19.420
it is low but you know what if you raise it too high like we'll just be like anticipating the next
04:43:24.940
one like oh when's the next time we get a like double dollar he's got he's 26 he's got a million
04:43:30.540
dollar net worth he makes six figures why it just almost seems like a safety concern too why would you
04:43:38.860
fuck in front of randoms for i mean is it like like they can't film they can't even see we usually
04:43:45.100
blindfold them turn them away both of you on it honestly yes like in the beginning it was mostly
04:43:51.100
turning me on and then he tried it and then he actually did like it to have some pathetic dude yeah
04:43:59.180
and we'll usually do when we're traveling and it will be like a pretty nice hotel usually and it's just
04:44:04.140
like so exciting like we're like a kinky couple who's like actually works in like a like a practical
04:44:11.900
sense in terms of like yeah but how's that not cuckoldry like if you if your dude allows his chick
04:44:20.060
allows men to watch her get on purpose how's that not cuckoldry they are not watching
04:44:25.660
because i i do you mean they're not watching like i just said they blindfold you know they can't record
04:44:30.860
they can't see anything but you said before they're watching i heard you say they watch yeah
04:44:35.260
like they're in the room blindfolded all of them you've never had so they watch it without
04:44:40.220
watching or wear a bra or wear a bra and so you're saying you've never had a cuck watching you guys
04:44:46.300
fuck they all want to be blindfolded i don't buy it so the first time like yes a sub did see us
04:44:53.100
fuck but then i started to get nervous a bit because my i feel like my fiance he was just under too
04:44:59.020
much pressure so then i pulled up the blanket but technically yes one cuck has seen all right
04:45:05.260
this is sounding a little dubious but okay next next tweet uh go ahead read it do you think that
04:45:12.540
all men should be locked up and abused and used by women yes yes yes clearly engagement farming that
04:45:20.140
did not work wow and that was august so that was like two months ago or something yeah i'm not even
04:45:25.420
gonna lie i was engagement farming that's why there's yes yes yes you sound like a radical
04:45:30.220
feminist but let me tell you no one in my personal life or work life would call me a radical feminist
04:45:36.620
wait pull it back up like i've never been called a feminist actually in my whole life
04:45:41.900
yeah yeah this is a kinky consensual and then clearly yes yes yes because i want people to engage
04:45:48.860
with it i mean it failed because i was shadow banned by twitter but sad life
04:45:56.780
okay uh i don't think a lot of men would be able to get away with tweeting something like that unless
04:46:03.340
i'm kind of misunderstanding some sort of context here but like there are um male doms usually tweeting
04:46:10.780
the same thing because it will usually be geared towards men okay context
04:46:17.420
ill wtf i hate this trad wife trend slash niche slash whatever tf female supremacy forever so you're
04:46:25.660
a female supremacist um i would say like my persona for work like yes i do strictly have to say this
04:46:34.620
um like in my personal life i don't think it's black and white honestly i i if i had to pick a
04:46:40.140
stance i would say male and female people should try to be equal overall all right next tweet no such a
04:46:46.940
thing i know i think it's too idealized but being male maybe we should scroll up is it safe can you check
04:46:53.900
first please oh yeah uh what is your biggest egg in a sub yeah pink male okay i i could have said being
04:47:06.380
an ugly male that's my ick but yeah because a lot of them are attractive the misandry is crazy um all
04:47:13.900
right next it's like you're contradicting yourself all the time yeah you know sometimes business and
04:47:19.580
personal is different you want to read this yeah asian women are superior over white men
04:47:23.660
and that's a fact why did you censor men because um well specifically if you look at my other social
04:47:30.300
media like i don't do this but specifically for findom i censor men because it's just everything
04:47:36.620
in findom it's anything related to men is unpleasant okay even the word back up pull that one back up the
04:47:46.060
oh f11 please also this is toward my target audience obviously i would never say
04:47:52.060
that to like a white man this entire night so you read this again asian women are what are superior
04:47:57.580
over white men and that's a fact it's not well it's interesting this entire night you've kind of been
04:48:03.020
like like we're the minority and yes that's what i truly believe you know but you've been like well
04:48:10.380
you've been kind of super woke and like triggered by like all the any sort of like thing you disagreed
04:48:16.540
politically when it came to you you mentioned you used all the buzzwords homophobia you talked
04:48:22.860
you talked about this racism and all this stuff but like here you are like here's a perfect perfect
04:48:29.260
example of you yeah being racist and sexist i mean so this is race play i think it was mentioned before
04:48:35.660
in a previous yes and i actually specifically if you go back to my tweets i have specific disclaimer saying
04:48:43.020
i only tweet um race play tweets about white people and japanese people like white men and japanese men
04:48:51.900
so if you don't consent to that this is your warning to unfollow wow yeah i actually have a very bio
04:48:59.980
that's not in your bio so that's a good point because at one point like my bio like did get deleted
04:49:07.180
and i just kind of like did it in a rush but you're right i should add that do you think it would be
04:49:11.420
okay for a white s worker to say white women are superior to asian women yes yes a lot oh wait do you
04:49:19.820
mean okay as in do you say if i decided for work i was going to tweet wait by the way i said men white
04:49:27.020
men but a lot of white doms they're like because i'm also in like the chinese like kink community basically
04:49:33.900
in bay area a lot of them and also internationally like a lot of them love white women who specifically
04:49:40.380
do race play for asian guys no i do i do know i am aware of that yeah so i i do see why you do it
04:49:47.580
yeah i mean it's their business but would you say it was okay say if my audience was women i could say
04:49:53.580
white women are so much better than asian women so specifically woman to woman no i would never i would
04:50:00.060
never say the reverse either i would never so it's okay to hurt men but it's not okay to hurt women
04:50:04.940
for the sake of business yes because it's like a kink it's really if it's just a target audience so
04:50:10.940
what you're saying i would know you do it for work so and i totally understand that obviously with all
04:50:15.020
this stuff i have different work accounts so i i totally get that yeah but so why is it different
04:50:19.740
if i did it just for work not for personal if i said oh well i dominate asian women and i tell them
04:50:26.620
that i'm better than them because i'm white but it's only for work uh-huh yeah because i think one
04:50:31.420
is consensual and in a very contained environment where both people feel safe they know this is a
04:50:36.380
role play it's been discussed and there are disclaimers um and then the other one is basically
04:50:42.540
just being out in society and you know spreading your prejudices which is wait she's
04:50:48.620
a personal life question she said it would be for work for her as a white woman to do this
04:50:53.580
yeah i said that's okay for work oh you're fine yeah i said that's okay because it people are
04:50:59.740
understanding they have this expectation well then then i don't understand what would your objection
04:51:05.100
be to okay like a racial organization where the person says who's running it oh i'm just i'm just
04:51:11.820
funding because it's for work and so send me send me money because i'm just funding because it's for
04:51:17.260
work i was just larping funny i wonder well i was i i'm not serious i'm just larping
04:51:23.500
okay let's say that they were the head of like a large racist organization uh-huh what would be
04:51:29.980
the problem with them saying oh we're just kidding though we're just kidding around though so so that
04:51:34.780
why why can't you send me the money right because it's for work why would that be a problem then got
04:51:39.420
you so are they why do you get the pass just because there happens to be uh you know penises and
04:51:44.220
vaginas involved i don't understand are they committing um crimes hate crimes no they're not committing
04:51:49.900
hate crimes then maybe politically it's not okay but in my viewpoint socially like i can't yeah so
04:51:57.100
in your viewpoint socially if they were the head of a racist organization yes because there are a lot
04:52:01.900
who say that about i wouldn't you know i wouldn't love it that's why race play is not even one of my
04:52:09.820
kinks i commonly practice it's not something i advertise i want to ask you something but however i did
04:52:15.820
have that one post really long thread saying specifically why if white men or japanese men
04:52:23.580
ask about this it's so much detail there it's actually strictly about colonization if they want
04:52:29.900
like a colonization race play then i will say yes but i want to ask you a question imagine how absurd this
04:52:36.140
is right yeah imagine how how absurd this is well who did like chinese people what if what if the head
04:52:41.100
of what if the head of like the kkk or something it was like oh they commit right hang on guys guys
04:52:49.020
you know what guys this is my job they commit crime my job to do to take money for this and so because
04:52:56.140
it's my job that it's okay right it's okay we're not committing any crimes they do activity they do they
04:53:03.340
commit hate can i yeah it's not the same it's not consensual in any way back up they're not
04:53:08.540
consensual if they're not committing any crimes what would your objection to it be it's about consent
04:53:14.300
it's about consent yes literally kink is about consent they're all consent no it's about the people
04:53:19.340
who are being like like viewing it yeah it's about because are you publishing it in like a public
04:53:24.940
newspaper just like you for example or like they have a specific audience it's a public audience for her
04:53:30.220
audience but wait i want to men who want these comments made about them so they get pleasure
04:53:35.420
from those comments being made about them for the example yeah that would be jack-shave
04:53:39.260
things that the head of a racist organization would be doing but listen where are the people
04:53:44.060
can i ask you about 0.1 listen andrew you talk a lot about isolated incidents where there's 0.1
04:53:51.420
people who might blah blah blah and then you say that's not even valid so why are you bringing up like
04:53:56.140
a 0.1 people population who might be interested in a hate organization consensually humiliating them
04:54:04.060
for the race yeah because why are you spending like five minutes on it i'm trying to answer your
04:54:08.940
question but you cut me off every time i try to answer it so i'm going to answer them i'm going to
04:54:13.340
ask so the answer to your question is i don't see what the objection here would be what is your actual
04:54:19.020
objection if the head of a racist organization i didn't say i would have an objection i said
04:54:23.660
let me finish let me finish okay just let you finish let me finish my point so what would the
04:54:30.540
actual objection be if it's the head of a racial organization all of the people who are involved
04:54:36.860
are consenting they's only publishing the things that those people want to hear because they're
04:54:41.500
consenting to it right and they're paying him a bunch of money he says hey it's just for work
04:54:45.340
what is the objection to that i am i wouldn't say that i would let's let's see so i don't even know
04:54:54.300
how to judge that situation i don't think that i'm you know god or whatever you can just say that
04:55:01.980
like maybe i have like a moral gray area and like i just can't answer that like i literally don't know
04:55:07.340
i can see can i can i just ask can i ask her a question single objection you can't give me a
04:55:13.340
single objection i'm trying to i'm trying to ask you a specific question what if i would be in that
04:55:19.260
i don't know whatever app it's calling i said uh i don't i don't want to work like i don't like black
04:55:25.260
men at all like i would talk just as you but regarding like black or other race that would be
04:55:31.580
considered that would consider race wait let me finish that would consider super racist but in this
04:55:36.460
country you can say about men white men anything you want it's like everything you say about white
04:55:42.140
men it's so irritating even to hear that should we just search up on twitter all the ones all the
04:55:47.420
tweets that are like just talking about black men and people loving it people enjoying the service
04:55:54.060
that's not true it's just a gray area commie if you want to have yeah i'm saying it's a great
04:55:57.900
ahead of it it's a gray area it's a gray area i just feel like her comments are like to sexually
04:56:03.740
please people yeah now a racist like thank you like the kkk they're they want to harm wait but hold
04:56:10.700
on hold on one thing yeah so but one thing but one thing but one thing so one thing though so you're
04:56:17.580
familiar that with the twitter algorithm yes so you might claim that you're sending this out to just
04:56:24.140
your followers who are privy to the fact that you do finndom and it's race play or whatever the
04:56:29.420
fuck yeah but let's say one of these tweets gets out into the greater twitter algorithm and it is put
04:56:36.140
in front of the eyeballs of people who don't know who the fuck you are what the fuck you do and they
04:56:41.500
see some random chick saying some racist man-hating shit let me tell you this is actually a common myth
04:56:48.140
because i worked in tech my what is it has this that this algorithm would show it to basically
04:56:54.140
let's say people you're actually are slurred you have no you're saying no twitter doesn't just
04:56:59.260
randomly it's not supposed to listen up okay let me say no you don't know because you're not going
04:57:04.700
to tell me about the twitter algorithm no my fiance literally like i don't give a
04:57:08.700
fuck you don't know what you're talking about you don't know people do you know people who write
04:57:12.380
the twitter algorithm and instagram algorithm like i do yes i do you do because i do too i
04:57:18.940
actually see it i actually see people working on it you think all the time because that's what my
04:57:24.060
friends do you think it's a slip it's not supposed to happen that's why we're shadow banned because they
04:57:30.300
only let you show it to people who are like liking stuff that you're following and also liking yeah
04:57:36.140
you're 100 wrong so the twitter algorithm just like tick tock you guys look you guys don't even
04:57:41.740
know how uneducated you look to like stem majors right now what the fuck are you talking if you're
04:57:47.820
if you're a coder if you're a programmer if you have professional programmers who work for us what
04:57:53.340
are you talking about i can promise you that my friends write better code wow because we can promise
04:57:58.220
you that you guys actually look very stupid in front of people who do machine learning engineering what
04:58:04.620
does that have to do a career i'm saying that they're not supposed to i don't understand tiny
04:58:10.460
tiny slip because it's not supposed to happen period like can you pull up a receipt where someone said
04:58:14.780
oh my gosh i'm just a vanilla person and we can test this out and hold on it ruined my life we can
04:58:20.380
test this out have any tweet that you have ever posted yes get engagement higher than
04:58:28.860
what you think would be commensurate to your following count so you've never had a tweet
04:58:34.220
end up in the algorithm ever unfortunately no this is the very sad part like i actually have
04:58:41.020
an assistant who helps me get other adult workers sorry to help retweet for retweet because
04:58:47.500
none of my viral tweets have blown up so please don't make that generalization like i might have
04:58:53.020
wished years ago the question was a hypothetical let's assume it did that's interesting so you think
04:59:00.300
nobody wait just to be clear you think not one individual stop you think not one individual has
04:59:06.620
laid eyes on one of your sexist or racist tweets without either being a follower or knowing who you
04:59:13.340
are or seeing that you've allegedly disclosed that this is all race play and it's all just for it's all
04:59:19.820
for laughs and all this stuff not one person i would say yes i have been this account has been shadow
04:59:27.020
banned since like the second week i made it i would actually say yes okay if it popped up on
04:59:31.820
anyone's algorithm without them consenting just dm me but would you i literally said that in the post
04:59:37.260
i said if you have a problem block me dm me comment whatever you know you're free to express your
04:59:43.260
feelings would you feel any sense of responsibility if someone say a vulnerable young person did see
04:59:49.660
a tweet like that would you maybe second guess maybe i shouldn't post that in the public domain
04:59:54.780
if they are under 18 100 100 100 because some people have done crazy things they had like they
05:00:01.180
were like a middle school teacher and they had that account for work and then they started doing
05:00:06.300
using the same thing to do findom like that's just not okay like hang on hang on before you go next
05:00:12.460
uh chilees you're you had an objection you said well but like a racial organization would be trying
05:00:18.460
to do harm what do you think a femdom is doing by draining men's bank accounts stomping on their
05:00:24.220
balls and do you think that that's not doing harm it's not doing harm because they signed up for it
05:00:29.260
like they want that would be the same logic with racial organization right are they paying 44
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a month to be a part of it so it's a little bit the same like these people like joined this group
05:00:43.580
because they collectively hate this certain type of people and then these people joined this website
05:00:48.380
because they want to see this type of her clients want want people who hate men to abuse them
05:00:56.060
so you think i have the power of the whole organization hang on her clients want women
05:01:01.100
who hate men to abuse them somehow that okay but when we get to racial organization who uh you know
05:01:09.020
wants to drum up hate towards this i i don't even understand how you could say that that's not
05:01:14.300
how am i drumming up hate but honestly none of it's okay because it's like you're feeding right
05:01:18.860
those freaky fantasies like that they shouldn't have you know so it's like okay she decided to
05:01:24.540
do that that's on her that's her moral compass you know that's an opinion and i agree yeah so it's
05:01:29.420
like i did decide after years of debating to do let's um let's move the uh can we see the next one
05:01:34.940
there's just what three more right austin okay can you read it i love how all the hottest asian
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doms have hot asian boyfriends why can i say these things why let's say white men need to white beta
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males need to know what's up they can say it okay white worms need to know what's up they can be
05:01:54.700
they can only be our cucks subs and objects of abuse with their inferior ass pink dicks asian supremacy
05:02:01.340
era i mean how is this just not sexist and racist on its face wait it's okay if the victim
05:02:10.700
wants racism from the femdom that's fine but if the victim wants racism from a hate group that's not
05:02:16.460
okay it's like look at the detail like literally makes no sense that makes no sense no sense did the
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hate group say like you know you can get off to this like i know you like to get off to this
05:02:26.860
well i don't understand why having a why having penis and vagina involved somehow makes it less of a
05:02:33.260
hate that's not what i said that thing applied except now you're adding sex to it too so you're
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like okay donated two hundred dollars this inferior asian woman clearly lacks any sense of accountability
05:02:46.300
hello l stream labs play yo big sass thank you man appreciate it yeah so it's like it's like this i
05:02:52.060
actually don't really you're saying you're saying oh okay like the hate group would be fine as long
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as they're they're having sex too like what do you wait what you would be pet you're peddling the
05:03:02.620
same thing you're peddling okay let me racism hang on you're peddling racism to people who want the
05:03:07.340
racism it's the same thing yeah i just don't okay i don't really get hold on really quick i also just
05:03:13.580
don't get you came in here at the beginning like super woke liberal like sjw oh is that a bit homophobic
05:03:20.700
you literally are calling white people worms like you're so fucking racist like and you wanted to
05:03:27.180
come in here on your woke fucking like oh how dare these misogynists be oh the homophobe the
05:03:36.460
homophobes and transphobes this is but you're fucking on your twitter on your yeah cool like whatever
05:03:42.780
whatever accusation yeah i've got a podcast it's for work too yeah i want to rebuttal what andrew said
05:03:47.500
so if i'm on my podcast for work and i'm like being racist or sexist it's okay right yeah it's
05:03:53.340
fine it's fine right it's for what you do with misogyny though like and people subscribe yeah
05:03:59.260
and they want you to keep here define misogyny go ahead dislike of women as a whole i'm guessing
05:04:07.900
that's the definition i mean an attempt was made an attempt was like or hatred dislike okay so what
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what evidence do you have of that go ahead no i actually don't agree with that but i've seen the
05:04:19.340
comments and i do see how it could be interpreted as misogynist for example you will pick out like
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one girl and then people will think that you're talking about all women like i do i do see that but
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i also see that you guys get tips you guys get engagement you guys have supporters who really like
05:04:35.820
certain sentences that are said usually the comments you know don't be about like the viral parts
05:04:41.180
white people worms and you have an asian supremacy thing and you think men are terrible you're why
05:04:47.180
not there's asian hate in us and i'm not saying like hey white people should beat up asian people
05:04:52.700
more like when i say wait sorry who's beating up the asian people are you talking about san francisco
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what are you talking about new york san francisco la yes who you're canada people do yes mostly white
05:05:06.460
people no mostly like can you like seriously 99 percent nonsense and then some in new york are black
05:05:15.500
people the ignorance oh my god i think if you're asian and you're subscribed you should subscribe today
05:05:24.300
how about the stats would you like the stats look at the stats do you know what model minority means
05:05:29.980
like does that mean anything to you you're like wait i don't want to get people are like oppressed
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and i'm saying i should be able to have this kind of expression where it's just going against look
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i do stuff to like for work to be controversial as well right okay all right for example this podcast
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i'd rather not pull up the stats just to keep things you know i want to i want to tell you something
05:05:55.100
when i when i talked before and said about the commercial it was beautiful people immediately have said
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you said black people and i never mentioned black i when i heard what you guys read about what you
05:06:06.140
wrote yeah and i'm not originally american it literally makes me a bad feeling like god it's
05:06:11.980
really really don't know about fin dom kink no but i want to tell you something the the most hypocrisy
05:06:17.420
here for majority of feminists like you and like uh yes you are this is your mentality this is how you
05:06:24.540
speak the most hypocritical thing is to put white men down and treat white men like the
05:06:29.500
biggest devil you don't you you don't put the right thing on point you said people are racist to
05:06:34.700
asians people are like racist to other this is completely bullshit you're a hypocrite you you
05:06:40.460
don't consistent with your point of view i'm sorry i'm not trying to hurt you but you're not
05:06:44.940
i don't you present yourself like you're going with billionaires and millionaires but you never
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mentioned it's from sex work and and i did in the beginning in the beginning and it's bullshit because
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anybody even me in my age i can come and be sexual and open the whatever account and i can make a lot
05:06:59.260
of money from sex but the whole point if you're intelligent and you know like what you said to
05:07:02.860
andrew about computers and and coding and all that it just shows how stupid you have wait but it sounds
05:07:09.820
that you're really stupid because if you have that ability to be so smart with computers and tech
05:07:14.060
and you're going to this porn and doing these degrading things and writing all this sorry
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shit on on whatever it is it just showed that you're stupid i'm just gonna say you're playing
05:07:23.900
checkers donated two hundred dollars almost all violent crime against asians is from i almost said
05:07:30.540
blacks this board is so delusional 60 13 if you know you know okay okay good talk good talk let's do
05:07:39.580
the last two things that one thing like i said it's not that serious it's for work it's not hypocrisy but
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that's what i'm saying you traded your values for money if you're doing something for my wait wait
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like i said why do you think it's just so cheap do you know how much i make from tech startups
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wasn't hitler just doing it for you just yeah but let me just you just yes what crime did i commit
05:08:00.220
it's a good example did i commit brian listen it's not a crime you come you saying i'm doing tech and
05:08:05.580
you told to andrew you told to andrew all my friends are doing wait let me finish my point please
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you told andrew earlier you told andrew earlier you don't know my friends i don't think any of
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this this is literally for can i please finish my point work you told andrew before you don't know
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the people i know the code they coding they doing computers they doing this but wait you you speak so
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much rubbish i you even think before you speak let me finish and then you traded your values for money
05:08:33.500
just because it's it's work and sex work you justified this shit no it's not justified yes no i
05:08:40.380
literally did you not hear the god i heard anything in 2021 when i realized it was sex work i took a
05:08:46.940
hiatus even though you are a sex worker it doesn't matter if you see you then i made a conscious
05:08:52.620
decision you and you not put let me finish let me finish let me finish please you keep interrupting
05:08:57.500
me you know what disturbed me about you personally i'll say this to you without i mean i don't mind if
05:09:01.660
you get offended i actually i tell you what disturbed me you claim to be this intelligent high-end high-class
05:09:07.900
woman high-value woman when and an intelligent they know about computer and coding and in the
05:09:13.180
end of the day don't interrupt me and in the end of the day you just another sorry to say that another
05:09:19.980
cheap ho that sell tweets and bullshit over social media and claim to be higher than anybody else
05:09:26.140
sorry but you are more touched on tiktok this woman and this woman this woman here that that was
05:09:33.180
saying in front of everybody that she did only fans and sex in front of porn whatever
05:09:37.900
she sits and i respect her way more than you because at least she was honest and spoke straight
05:09:43.500
to the camera without manipulating maneuvering bullshitting you sitting here trying to maneuver
05:09:48.780
everybody make them feel like you're better than them when you are the lowest and the lowest in the
05:09:52.860
class no that's your opinion look i don't judge others you know whatever we call about christian
05:09:58.940
values or whatever i'm not christian i'm jewish first of all you can judge me i don't care i know
05:10:04.300
who i am you can judge me first of all i have jewish values i have jewish values okay i have jewish values
05:10:10.220
this is the original so oh for some reason want to portray yourself in a different way i think it
05:10:16.140
shows that you are a good person you have good values and you value the right things like my other
05:10:20.540
accounts that i can and the fact that you are you contradicting yourself left and right you know
05:10:27.580
what maybe people are not so black and white they're not so one-dimensional maybe the people
05:10:32.300
you lie and then you come maybe most people in the world you say one thing and then you jump to another
05:10:36.220
you say one thing and then she at least straight forward saying in front of everybody i did porn no i
05:10:41.900
can speak louder i did porn my boyfriend helped me to realize what i am i grew up i grew out of it
05:10:47.500
i know it's not the right thing but you come in here so prejudiced lying completely in front of
05:10:53.260
the camera trying to manipulate smarter people he's an expert but he does otherwise he wouldn't
05:10:58.060
be as so successful with the podcast league schools listen to me otherwise you would not be so successful
05:11:03.660
in what you do with the podcast and you're sitting here claiming to be better than him and better
05:11:07.900
than andrew and better than all the girls here when you actually the lowest did you i don't think
05:11:15.020
you claimed that i did yes she did i did not just read no she didn't she said to andrew people gonna
05:11:20.860
laugh at you oh go ahead no she didn't say i see value i see value in you having separate accounts and
05:11:29.580
i see you make yourself look stupid wait wait okay let's just let's just get through the tweets and
05:11:34.860
yeah okay i thought there were two more oh we already did it okay okay even worse they think
05:11:43.420
women want to sleep with them can you scroll up i think i think it's just double check it i think
05:11:47.740
it's safe though i think it's safe boys that does sound like something i would tweet on this account oh
05:11:54.700
yeah yeah whatever all right all right that was uh would a true misinterest hire males after many
05:12:06.060
female employees have proved them unreliable and me wanting to mitigate risk that's sometimes one
05:12:13.020
thing leads to another it's not hypocrisy it's learning and making different decisions based off of
05:12:19.260
my previous experiences but you represent and making different it's like i will represent myself
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i've talked about personal i've talked about this business i've talked about that but it's not
05:12:26.620
business for me it's not business it doesn't justify it even if it's business it doesn't justify
05:12:32.460
if if i look my morals if a prostitute would slip with a 16 year old she said it's okay just business
05:12:38.540
i don't care if he's 16 he paid me money you don't justify this because of money money it's not higher
05:12:43.820
hierarchy more than values money your values are here under 18 people like that's just a hard no
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but i already acknowledged this is a moral gray area bottom line bottom line am i not allowed as a
05:12:55.340
human to have gray areas in my morality bottom line sweetie you sell yourself to the devil you sell your
05:13:03.660
morals to the devil and that's it hope someone clips this oh whoops didn't mean to pray okay all right
05:13:12.540
uh okay let me get through all the show notes here and then we'll hopefully try to get into a
05:13:18.060
row session then wrap okay oh yeah good idea good idea austin all right guys go to twitch.tv slash
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whatever drop us a follow and a prime sub if you have one twitch.tv slash whatever 1700 uh of you
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watching on twitch if you guys can if you have a follow available drop us a follow if you have a prime
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available drop us a little prime sub in because it's bugged right it's bugged it's because it's
05:13:42.700
bugged boys it's uh do it because it is bugged uh yeah and then also our discord guys discord.gg
05:13:49.900
slash whatever drop us a follow drop us a follow drop us a join i guess on discord we post bts we post
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all kinds of cool stuff so be sure to check that one out thank you guys appreciate it
05:14:00.380
it and then let us see what else do we have to oh okay here we go why don't we do this uh
05:14:07.740
we have oh let's do really quick i'm just i'm super curious uh i don't really want to
05:14:12.300
debate it but we'll get the answers uh you randomly spawn in the forest in front of you also spawns two
05:14:20.300
buttons one button will randomly spawn a man the other button will randomly spawn a bear and you're
05:14:27.420
going to come across either the man or the bear do you pick the man or do you pick the bear the man
05:14:33.020
okay the man the man the man the man the man what was the question man or bear man of course okay
05:14:44.220
all right easy well done well done uh let us see here why did i write down color correction
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why the fuck would i write okay oh should we hmm we should have done this with submission let's get
05:14:56.300
through the notes uh sherry to finish up your shit commie probably
05:15:03.980
commie yeah i don't know why i keep calling you that that's really weird um so uh you dated multiple
05:15:10.460
sons of ceos of companies traded on nasdaq yes it's crazy multiple dated multiple sons of ceos of
05:15:18.940
companies you guys had to bring the craziest i actually thought hard about the craziest you can read
05:15:24.380
all of them yeah one of which was my ex who was forced into an arranged marriage with a lesbian and
05:15:30.460
he didn't even know while we were together a toxic crypto founder who ruined your life
05:15:37.100
a previous yakuza member so yeah a porn star who retired his career to be with me
05:15:43.980
yes so crazy and i think he might now be like dead according to the prison why did you why did you
05:15:52.300
retire to be with you like aren't you a sex worker what no no at this time i was 18. oh so you were
05:15:59.420
like oh like i didn't even know about like i honestly just knew that he did porn because my friends like
05:16:07.020
so we actually met on dating app and then my friends were like oh my god like this guy's a
05:16:12.460
porn star and i'm like well he didn't mention it after we met but i didn't think too much of it and
05:16:17.900
then me being 18 and young naive i just kind of overlooked the importance and the weight on that
05:16:24.780
but he did say if that's gonna like hold me back from getting to a relationship with him he will stop and
05:16:32.220
then he did one last shoe and then stopped and i okay i think that actually is from like his agencies
05:16:37.820
and stuff i like the companies i think he's um you briefly dated a self-made billionaire in his 30s
05:16:43.980
who lied twice about his age to you yeah it was so crazy like i gave him so many opportunities
05:16:50.220
i thought you didn't have many body cons i i don't i never stopped with that guy like eight you're a
05:16:56.140
fucking liar you're a fucking liar you know how earlier we had that um message about people not
05:17:02.060
sleeping on the first day it might be hard to imagine but i don't sleep on the first day usually
05:17:06.940
it's like the second three no like three to five three to five and not many guys get the second date
05:17:13.180
okay that billionaire like i went on three days didn't sleep with him didn't didn't hit no like he was
05:17:18.860
honestly really annoying and he lied about his age twice like that was just a deal breaker for me
05:17:23.100
twice is that is that is that bad to lie about age twice it was actually pretty like okay so at
05:17:30.460
first he put 26 you've never met him in person never about my age anything never about something
05:17:35.740
like so like menial it doesn't matter maybe you have money someone saying hey like you know what's
05:17:41.900
your name what's your age blah blah blah you know you would probably just respond like a normal person
05:17:46.940
but he put 26 that i met up with him and i was like oh you know how like i was trying to give
05:17:52.780
him benefit of the doubt i was like oh like you know um what did you say your age is again and then
05:17:58.140
he said 31 and then he actually like then by the third day we started talking about work that's when
05:18:05.420
i realized like basically what he did the company he sold and all that stuff and then so i went back
05:18:11.180
and i googled and i realized he's 38 i brought it up to him he's like oh my god who the hell yes 38
05:18:18.300
yeah so the age gap was actually huge at that point and he lied twice and oh my god yeah omg okay
05:18:26.460
a few rappers including one who also lied about his age to you yeah what's up with these guys lying
05:18:30.860
about their age whatever uh you dated a few rappers and you like you can go date him did he he's in la
05:18:36.540
hey did he huh did he no oh my gosh no i can go date him no no okay uh you had some disagreements
05:18:47.020
you had a couple disagreements we'll get into those you said you disagree you i mean all you
05:18:50.860
wrote was toxic masculinity oh because i thought it was like topics and i thought you guys would take
05:18:56.220
that into the notes and then ask some questions about it oh yeah i mean so like that's my bad do
05:19:00.540
you think the podcast is toxic no no i actually thought it would be interesting for people to talk
05:19:05.100
about oh okay so you're in favor or against toxic masculinity and what is what i actually was
05:19:11.660
thinking like if we could just go around and define it like that would be an interesting exercise and
05:19:16.460
then see depending on the exercises like you know debate like are you for or against i know i think i
05:19:21.740
know i know what the definition of it is so toxic masculinity is when you say no to a woman
05:19:28.460
no that's not what it is that's what that's how y'all in america is right that's what it is
05:19:34.060
no that's not your joke you're totally right now in america to be a feminist it's to hate men that's
05:19:39.900
the the deal okay but i was like the reason why i put that was because i was thinking it'd be
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interesting to hear everyone's thoughts but like we want to hear your thoughts that's why we're asking
05:19:48.780
okay yeah i think so what is toxic masculinity i think toxic masculinity is when someone is a
05:19:57.180
misogynist and brings that to like all aspects of their life didn't you know what misogynist mean
05:20:01.820
yeah i literally said hate and dislike women as a whole like as if they're just one big group with
05:20:08.540
unified blanket okay commonalities what would they what would an example of toxic masculinity be
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oh my god i guess it kind of teeters into sexism but which would be okay can you give me an example
05:20:25.100
of toxic masculinity okay i'm gonna try my best okay so if a guy were to try to court a girl who
05:20:36.300
he knows is independent has her own life that kind of stuff going on and then later in the relationship
05:20:43.420
after they've been committed then he gaslights her into saying this is bad what you're doing
05:20:49.100
is wrong who you were was wrong i think that would be an example of toxic masculinity that's
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that's what happened to me so you mean exactly what happened to the chick next to you it was a good
05:20:59.100
thing for me oh okay god i mean like literally the exact same thing that happened to the chick next
05:21:03.900
to you yeah and also you know what toxic but i guess like i mean you know what toxic was very
05:21:10.300
he was physically abusive and ended up in hospital that's why i said but you know what you know what
05:21:16.140
created it you know what toxic toxic is women like you the men i feel so bad for the men if that's what
05:21:22.300
they have to choose from it doesn't matter your personality from being a baby until today by saying
05:21:27.580
all the things that you're saying and how you operate and how you think business out of sex and men
05:21:33.660
real men have to deal with that i feel bad for them they're either stupid or oblivious to who you are
05:21:38.780
okay well somehow these men care to talk to me and propose to me more than like in your experience
05:21:43.740
you don't know you don't know how many men propose to me i think we just live different lives and you
05:21:50.380
know people have different experiences period i'm not choosing men over i'm not choosing men just
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because they have money or status i never yeah it's just it's just weird to me that somebody would
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want to date something like this all right it's weird did you come on here to gain perspective or to
05:22:05.420
no oh okay to be close-minded okay no all right i'm gonna try to get through all your notes here
05:22:09.660
as quick as possible at this point really quick just adult content creation stigma so yeah there's
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a stigma we actually kind of talked about it yeah we kind of did with the especially the corn industry
05:22:22.060
yeah okay um skip that uh the viewpoint that a decent wife has to be a certain way so uh what way
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do you think that that is we actually talked about that too with the the virgin the high body count
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that's exactly what i was thinking but so what way do you think that it that is
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well to reiterate i think it's not so black and white like with the virgin thing that we talked about
05:22:46.860
if someone is you know good at being the mom um or has the potential to be the mom
05:22:54.140
like i don't think it's so black and white on specific traits like virgin or not sure we talked about
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it yeah we talked about it uh you said qualifying to follow a religion depending on the work you do
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what what did you mean by that oh i was like wondering um how you guys feel about or what are
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your guys's perspective on people who follow religion and do adult work because i've seen like a few um
05:23:19.260
doesn't go together clips and it's incompatible it doesn't go together it's people that think that
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they're they're religious but they're not okay i didn't finish though like do you think because
05:23:28.140
we're all sinners like yes there are different types of sins however do you think someone could
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really like truly follow a faithful religion and feel very like redeemed feel like it's purposeful and
05:23:40.300
that they can like you know jesus can forgive them for the sins like just one religion as an example
05:23:45.340
and like sure jesus can forgive you for your sins but do you think this person can be happy
05:23:49.740
but yeah but but hang on let's let's untangle a couple things so yeah first of all can you follow
05:23:56.300
a religion and be a sex worker yeah i'm sure i'm sure you could follow satanism and all sorts of
05:24:01.420
different religions and be a sex worker i think that you're specifically talking about you know
05:24:06.540
possibly the abrahamic religion yeah i was like this right so uh the answer there would be no it'd be
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incompatible because it would be against christian ethics so this would it would not only violate the
05:24:17.900
ten commandments but it would also violate the teachings of jesus christ and it would violate
05:24:22.780
the teachings of jesus christ apostles and all church doctrines so no it's not only is it incompatible
05:24:29.420
but um it's it's highly sinful so if you're asking can you be forgiven for those things well yeah
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absolutely only if you follow only more she'd be forgiven only if she follows doing the same things
05:24:42.540
that jesus yeah no no no no i my question my question like andrew was getting there my question
05:24:48.380
is if this person is following this religion repenting but they get no way that they're sitting
05:24:53.180
no like like do you think this person can truly be happy because religion is like part of a person's
05:24:58.300
values but they do gang bangs on the weekends for money and then yeah and then repent because like i
05:25:03.420
just i've seen some cases i'm just super curious about andrew's thoughts because those women are not here
05:25:09.100
physically but then they get gang banged yeah so yeah some of the yeah some of the people yes that
05:25:13.660
i'm thinking of like no names but i've tangled with many such such women right um and the answer is is uh
05:25:21.580
no i don't think that if on the weekends you're going off and uh doing you know camera gang bangs and
05:25:28.460
sucking 20 dicks and then you just go and confess it the next day that you're very serious about your
05:25:34.060
the idea of repentance and i can give you a story very briefly you know very i'll just very briefly
05:25:39.260
get into it saint mary of damascus um she was a a lifelong prostitute and she segregated herself
05:25:46.540
off from the world and became a saint because she spent the rest of her life in repentance for the
05:25:51.740
things that she had done so uh yes it's very possible for the for women to be reformed but they always
05:25:58.060
forget about the word repentance and what that means instead they decide that they're going to go into
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some kind of bizarre ministry and tell everybody that feminism and christianity is the same thing
05:26:07.740
and so not the same no uh no i don't think you can practice at the same time that you're doing it
05:26:14.300
there could be some bizarre hypothetical cases you could come up with like she just did that
05:26:18.620
last weekend before she had the revelation and she fully repented uh after that yeah i think that
05:26:24.540
that's possible but it's super unlikely right yeah yeah yeah definitely because those women are not here
05:26:30.780
and obviously no names but i was really curious oh yeah sorry egypt not damascus my bad i got
05:26:35.180
correct that's an l for me uh but anyway yeah so anyway uh that's one case that you can look at
05:26:43.260
you also said that you wanted to talk about or an interest in discussing women's rights and misogyny
05:26:51.580
again so we actually did go through the misogyny i didn't put misogyny in the previous did we talk
05:26:57.340
about messages maybe a little bit i don't know like the definition like is it existing and like
05:27:02.700
da da da in society yeah uh women's rights you wanted to discuss women's rights we can
05:27:07.820
hit on that quickly i don't like i don't know if that's too well just give us a quick yeah okay
05:27:15.100
okay boom i actually do have like one thing that i think could be debated on like in first world
05:27:19.660
countries um you know what's defined by a first world country is not just like the socioeconomic
05:27:24.780
power or political power but also the ideology so um how does how do you guys feel about let's
05:27:30.700
just give an example south korea where there's very few women's rights and then you know there are like
05:27:36.860
a lot of feminists protesting that and people consider a first world country like can a first
05:27:42.780
world country really be a first world country if the thinking is very anti-female basically like
05:27:51.260
misogynist not giving them rights the feminist movement is exceptionally strong in south korea
05:27:57.340
yeah but i'm not i don't think myself or andrew know enough about uh the women's rights movement
05:28:05.580
or feminism in south korea i mean i don't want to speak for you andrew but it's a very niche can i
05:28:11.580
yeah no i i understand the movement fairly well um just like i understand the herbivore movement in japan
05:28:17.100
very well um and you you said you seem to be fairly familiar with japanese history um is that correct
05:28:25.740
not super no i'm no i wouldn't say i'm a historian on japanese no i've only no i've only yeah we
05:28:33.740
can i say something on feminism regarding what you said yeah yeah like women's rights be me coming from
05:28:42.140
a country from a area region in the world that i've seen around me so many women that are suppressed
05:28:48.860
not specifically in israel but for example the muslims in israel and the christian arabs in israel
05:28:54.620
very suppressed by their families and their husband a lot of them and they come and seek
05:28:59.420
asylum or help from the radical feminist in for example in tel aviv right so for women in america to
05:29:06.860
sit and say that they've been suppressed in this country it's ridiculous because where i come from
05:29:12.300
i've seen women get shot and killed if they just looked at another man looked not not say not talk
05:29:18.780
not have sex just looked at another man and here women got all the privilege they get in the world
05:29:24.940
right women here have overly privilege because women here are louder for the wrong things
05:29:30.860
they use a lot of the time and they use situation as i said a hundred times they have this prostitute
05:29:37.580
mentality that they entitled to think they can get what they want and then when they talk to men just
05:29:42.460
like you said about white men they always all men are idiots men are bad men are users the only
05:29:48.140
men i've seen in this country that that treating women really really bad it's men that tired from women
05:29:54.540
with this mentality women here they don't like to cook of course i'm generalizing and of course it's
05:29:59.740
different women but a lot of women here they don't like to cook they don't like to nurture their
05:30:03.660
men they're not patient when the man loses his money and need attention they won't take their money
05:30:09.980
and help their men here it's all about whatever you have you can give me and if you don't have it
05:30:14.380
anymore i divorce you and i'll marry someone they have it everything it's transactional with money
05:30:19.660
woman and the good women that you have it wait a second and the good woman that you see in this country
05:30:24.300
they don't get enough attention because all this radical feminism dedoctrinating the young youth
05:30:30.140
and the and the 30 year old and the 40 year old and the 50 year old they have this entitled mentality
05:30:35.260
so for saying that women don't have enough rights here it's the most ridiculous stupid thing i don't
05:30:40.300
know wait okay so i do have to move it off of south korea do you have anything that's more pertinent to
05:30:45.420
uh like western countries or the united states no i actually just was curious what people thought
05:30:50.700
about like women's rights in certain countries well it's damaged them beyond all all uh repair
05:30:58.380
because like japan and south korea and all these different um southeast asian nations have become
05:31:03.900
american ports and so we have westernized them and what's happened as a result of that is um they
05:31:10.460
abandoned traditionalism and their birth rates have gone so far below reproduction that they're going to
05:31:15.260
go extinct uh south korea for instance is below one the replacement levels before below one per woman
05:31:23.340
which is uh that's that's basically an extinction level event i don't even know how you can recover
05:31:29.740
from that japan is almost as low as that and yes the uh this is the western values especially of feminism
05:31:37.500
which has destroyed the traditional makeup of the family unit inside of those nations and andrew i want
05:31:42.940
to say something regarding to what you just said you don't know how much right you are like in israel
05:31:47.580
for example if you divorce the woman because it's radical feminism right and you don't pay let's say
05:31:53.100
child support they will go to your bank account you know how many men every year make suicide in israel
05:31:57.980
because this radical uh uh feminism and new laws they give to men if they don't pay child support as
05:32:04.780
they accord like if the woman wants 4 000 shekels and the man doesn't pay it she can go to his
05:32:09.740
a bank account with the government and take that money so this americanized no what i'm trying to
05:32:14.620
say americanized mentality affected like he said in other people that it's unrepairable well now hang
05:32:20.620
on i wouldn't say in israel that we uh outsource that to israel i'll tell you so you're wrong israel
05:32:27.660
outsourced plenty of its own stuff to not with feminism israel's israel's um right now their birth rate
05:32:35.260
though is stabilized because they have a massive in vitro fertilization program and that in vitro
05:32:40.780
fertilization program has worked fairly successfully because it'll allow women to go 20 25 35 times as
05:32:48.220
many times it takes because they have to have numbers high enough to defend the nation from all
05:32:53.180
the enemies they're surrounded by so they patriotically uh push for a uh basically a pregnancy program for
05:33:00.620
women but that's not what that's not but that's not what i'm talking about you're right about that
05:33:05.100
but it's not what i'm talking about what i'm talking about that the radical feminism got affected so
05:33:09.580
bad in israel that even men before in israel no man would let a woman pay and women don't act
05:33:14.940
out like the women act out here but if you go to tel aviv versus another city like tiberias
05:33:20.380
you see the complete difference between the attitude in a minute women in tel aviv and the women in the
05:33:24.780
north of the country completely because they get influenced from america and american tv shows and
05:33:30.380
american media and i know that is a fact israel has always been a highly progressive nation when
05:33:35.980
it came to domestic policy it's always been highly progressive yeah america is not outsourcing
05:33:42.780
progressivism to israel any more than israel's outsourcing progressivism they have all sorts of
05:33:48.620
philosophers which um which come up with the same types of policies that ours come up with no i know
05:33:54.380
i mean that's one of the that's one of the few nations i would actually say uh that the um that
05:33:59.260
is a part of the western apparatus which exports feminism i would not say that it is a nation which
05:34:05.500
had a feminism exported to it no no what i mean i am i'm very sorry i do have to move things on i'm
05:34:11.420
very sorry but going uh back to you you in your pre-show notes here you said uh dating until you find your
05:34:17.980
person should you date multiple people at one time or many until you find that person so what's your
05:34:24.940
do you want to elaborate what's your position on that can you read it to me one more time you said
05:34:30.460
dating until you find your person should you date multiple people at one time or many until you find
05:34:36.540
that person so my position is honestly i feel like dating not sleeping with every guy but i feel like
05:34:45.580
you should date as many people as you would like and then once you kind of like you have this
05:34:52.060
box full of all these guys and you kind of just pick your best one or if none of them is good enough
05:34:56.700
then you just keep dating until you find like that perfect person for yourself it doesn't mean sleeping
05:35:01.180
with them though emphasis on that okay all right um i personally think that uh women should be single
05:35:12.620
for like at least three years before they date a new man sorry that was before they date a new
05:35:19.020
man after the last relationship after they got out of a relationship okay no sorry okay that was my
05:35:24.300
troll answer i'll just give you okay like my position if i go on a if i go on the first date with girl
05:35:29.660
and she wants a second date it has to be a wrap with the other dudes if there's other guys that
05:35:34.620
well if she's sleeping with another dude i've lost interest of course uh 100 a lot of women move that way
05:35:40.460
but if she's not doing that but she's dating like dating sleep well i mean she's probably well okay
05:35:48.140
if she's going on dates with other men and she wants a second date with me i'm i'm not interested
05:35:55.420
i feel like that's conversations that you kind of like just don't even have in the beginning like
05:35:59.740
when you first are dating somebody like you don't know my conversations what do you mean yeah like
05:36:04.060
sometimes that's just not something people do yeah like i'll ask if you're single like are you single
05:36:09.020
or not you know and if you're like okay i'm single then i'm not going to ask you like are you
05:36:12.300
dating another woman why not wait this girl over here said she's single and she's been hooking up
05:36:17.740
with a dude exclusively for three months and that's crazy no oh you're not specified okay you you well
05:36:24.300
you said no oh so wait okay then allow me to allow me to inquire with him so you're not sleeping with
05:36:31.420
him no you've been dating this guy for three months yes are you because i actually want it to be a
05:36:35.980
relationship oh wait i'm dating seriously is he sleeping with anyone else as far as i know no wait
05:36:45.660
hold on so you said you're waiting because you want it to be a serious relationship i want i'm
05:36:50.540
we both have made up the conclusion that we want to be with each other so that we treat it as if it's
05:36:58.940
us a relationship but you don't have the title correct i don't see i don't like that like i would
05:37:06.940
not no i agree with you i mean that's something that i want that's why i said i'm like i have a limit
05:37:13.500
like once it's you know a couple months like that's what i mean i'm like that's the conversation
05:37:18.620
can you speak a little closer to the mic yeah i said that's like a conversation it's like what
05:37:23.020
are you waiting for kind of thing so i mean i've pushed does he has he does he want to have sex
05:37:31.580
i mean it's a conversation that's been had like i said i would only be willing to like be intimate
05:37:37.180
with somebody until it turns into a serious like into a relationship with the title once
05:37:42.060
how often do you hang out with him well we're long distance right now since i moved
05:37:46.780
but you guys wait so it's not um frequent at all how long distance same state it's uh two two hours
05:37:56.620
okay two hours how often do you see him i see him right now it's only been like once a month
05:38:02.940
once a month okay but you were in person with him it wasn't long distance no it wasn't this is new
05:38:10.220
the the dynamic changes i have a question you said it's been three months you want something
05:38:14.460
serious with him so you've opted to wait to have sex uh has this been your standard for previous
05:38:25.420
really yes yes and if that's hard to believe then you don't have to believe me but i'm telling you
05:38:35.980
has he has it been shorter than three months for any guy that you've hooked up with
05:38:40.860
have you previously i've maintained the same standards for okay i suppose that's fair um
05:38:55.340
but okay so got a little sidetracked there going back to you um i'm sorry trying to remember what you
05:39:03.660
were uh saying so basically i just believe that you can date multiple people until you commit
05:39:10.540
yourself to a person i feel like it's really none of the other person's business if you are dating
05:39:16.140
other people like i feel like you shouldn't tell them like hey i'm going on this date tomorrow like
05:39:21.900
it's kind of none of their concern until we say hey i don't want you seeing nobody else and you don't
05:39:26.060
want me seeing nobody else but i don't feel like it's okay in your situation to bring that up to sit
05:39:31.100
there and say that you want me exclusive to you but you don't want to give me a title like there's
05:39:36.300
no way in hell i'm going to be okay with that and yeah i'll give them the benefit of doubt whereas
05:39:40.860
like maybe that person just got out of relationships that are kind of scared to jump into something but
05:39:45.100
then you also got to set your boundaries like how long am i willing to take this type of behavior
05:39:49.580
because you can also be the woman that's waiting to get married and you've been dating this guy for
05:39:54.060
10 years and he never puts a ring on your finger well yeah by the way tts is 69 if anybody wants to get a
05:39:59.580
tts and 69 tts go ahead i was saying yeah that's absolutely right like i agree with you because
05:40:06.460
like there's only so much time that you have to like spare like i think my situation is different
05:40:11.180
like than somebody who's like maybe 25 right um i'm 22 so i have i have time to spare like i'm not
05:40:17.740
rushing into it by any means like i don't also want to be in a relationship until i'm certain but as of
05:40:24.780
now i feel like i'm leaning towards like hey i'm ready to be in a relationship
05:40:33.340
i'm curious so do anybody else agree that you should only date one person at a time
05:40:37.580
if you're not committed of course yeah yeah me 100 you know how i said like a lot of times guys don't
05:40:45.020
get a second day donate your voice is like nails on a chalkboard your stories suck your personality
05:40:54.860
sucks your mind sucks you are not interested sorry are the ladies who couldn't speak to her need for
05:41:03.100
attention uh gerald thank you for that appreciate it um i am gonna have to move it on getting to raya
05:41:11.020
all right you said you've got a lot of crazy stories there's a prison pen pal who turned into
05:41:20.460
a relationship high school ex well let's start with the prison pen pal so and you've had a couple
05:41:27.980
prison pen pal or is it just one oh i i did write to five of them before it got back to me
05:41:32.220
you wrote to five prisoners stop it you're the you're the girl who writes to people i used to
05:41:40.700
what like murderers no no i stuck to non-violent crimes what's your criteria selective of over the
05:41:48.220
how did you get to them i'm curious i also got a p.o box but how can you get to them how do you how
05:41:53.580
do you even start to do that i'm curious you write letters is there like a website yeah it's called
05:41:58.140
write a prisoner really it's called what write a prisoner write write a prisoner what were the like
05:42:03.260
would you can you sort by what kind of crime they committed i don't believe so but you said you would
05:42:07.900
pick non-violent crimes yeah so like selling drugs to like uh kindergartners you would date you would
05:42:15.020
like pen pal that guy well i still have morals oh well i mean it's non-violent but okay um so were
05:42:21.420
any of them innocent did any of them tell you that they were innocent no are you dead desperate for love
05:42:28.540
no i did not write to them for love so for what uh because i was curious to hear people's life
05:42:34.140
stories okay i mean there's like netflix shows about like prison and stuff like you could have just
05:42:39.180
watched 20 last 28 hours it's okay it's okay my last question on this before brian starts in
05:42:46.140
create just got to know did they constantly ask for pictures no they had to have asked for pictures
05:42:51.900
right they did yeah but not constant i i think it might be contraband like to have like nude i don't
05:42:59.500
know yeah it has computer i'm not i'm not even saying they do oh just like pictures of her
05:43:05.100
okay yeah just like a little pinup or something yeah yeah just uh okay do you find like criminals
05:43:14.300
sexy no no as again i will say i was not writing for love okay but i mean you she did research you
05:43:21.900
you wrote to five four of them responded one was a woman three were guys and like did it how many of
05:43:31.100
them did it start going into a like flirtation with um so i stopped writing to two of the guys
05:43:40.060
because it started going that way and i again was not looking for that and then the girl and i just
05:43:45.500
didn't click like on a friendship level um and then i just really clicked with the one who i ended up
05:43:52.860
being in a relationship with yes so um okay prison pen palette turns it so
05:43:59.580
was he like getting out soon and then once he got out you guys start dating or no he gets out and
05:44:05.100
sorry one sec daryl sanders don't need to blue she till me and brian you've been making money all night
05:44:11.580
but you're still big mad you seem to be making a comeback but you've been letting andrew do the
05:44:17.580
heavy lifting for hours what's going on dude yeah you can show that um uh daryl thank you man
05:44:27.500
appreciate it yeah i've been that time of the month you know big sass energy donate i'll change it to
05:44:33.500
you know my fiendom isn't only ever will be a superior white male named brian no way i would
05:44:41.660
give my money to a chubby inferior asian woman burrito zani bri bri empty me good night king daddy
05:44:50.460
she she she heard it right there uh she's just getting some right you should be a fin dog you
05:44:55.420
already have so many simps on here i would fiendom women i don't think i would fiendom men but what if
05:45:01.900
how whoa that's that's that's so similar to what the girls come on here and say though they're like
05:45:07.820
we'll do it we'll do it to men but not to women no but he means he's not gay that's what he meant
05:45:13.180
yeah yeah i'm not he's been exposed i also brian's a sex worker confirmed yeah confirmed i'm cancelled
05:45:19.820
no i i do not want to do uh fiendom um maybe only fans i do like i would totally do this i would happily
05:45:30.540
do this right this second if any of you stupid broads out there listening to me right now would
05:45:37.180
like to give me all of your money for me to degrade you all day long i will definitely do that i kind
05:45:43.740
of already have 69 plus is this bad that i've never heard i will do it yeah i mean yeah something
05:45:50.460
yeah totally absolutely right i will drain your bank but doesn't that go against everything you
05:45:55.900
have and i won't i'll mercilessly not stop until there's not a dime left i'll go the whole nine
05:46:02.620
yards man i'll make sure damn more than me by the time it's done no house no credit cards max it's all
05:46:10.540
mine i've never heard of it dumb i think i'm gonna go check it out yes really yes i've never
05:46:15.420
heard it okay guys he's straight and restring away from god really famous i think i've heard this
05:46:21.180
podcast i uh what are you talking about be a great service be a great service they need to give you
05:46:27.420
what do you mean the dividends how do you call it no no that's not that's twitter no i'm just kidding
05:46:33.260
i'm just saying you're probably still hostile uh so okay go on rap underscore p yeah thank you
05:46:39.740
i made it 69 dollars can't stay up late work trip tomorrow what's up with cabra's peoples they so
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big the world wants to know oh seven into the look into this one closer uh yo rath good to see you in
05:46:55.580
the chat man thank you so much for the uh tts really appreciate it all right uh let's see oh
05:47:01.740
prison pen pal okay so you dated him while he was in prison yeah never he has he got out no how
05:47:11.100
long wait and this was like three years ago yes you had sex
05:47:18.300
i'm curious like you had physical how would that be possible i don't know maybe conjugal you can go
05:47:23.100
there like in israel if you're going with a prisoner you can go to jail every other month and
05:47:27.420
have sex in a specific room yeah wait but so i think you have to be married for that i think but
05:47:34.620
no how long did you date him not long uh probably about three months in a relationship was he in like
05:47:43.420
a totally different state no he's in california okay just curious what was the crime um
05:47:55.100
okay and let's see was his name the dread pirate roberts by chance no i wish
05:48:03.340
that guy's badass huh okay which one there was three of them right true yeah yeah
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uh and uh you never did you ever go visit him in person i did yeah okay how many times just once
05:48:18.620
just one time was he cute was he hot i found him attractive awesome did y'all break up after the
05:48:28.620
visit do you have a picture no okay how long is he doing how long is he in prison for uh he gets out
05:48:36.940
most likely 2026 oh she's 2026 oh that's not that far all right you said that your high school
05:48:46.060
ex faked a car accident and you drove from dallas to san diego and then your ex-girlfriend tried to
05:48:52.220
move to texas to live with your dad did you try to fuck your dad my dad tried to fuck her oh my god
05:48:58.700
yeah yeah what are you going with him and also yes okay uh okay um
05:49:08.780
a non-donated 69 dollars chair when you speak act and dress like an attention star stuck 14 year old
05:49:16.460
no masculine man in his absolute right mind with his shut together would ever get close
05:49:20.700
kind of frustration from earlier wait what's the point of frustration the comment or me oh he's
05:49:29.900
saying pants up frustration from earlier so he's still pissed about earlier whatever you were saying
05:49:35.820
oh i don't know i've i've had like very good relationships
05:49:42.540
wait so a few more things on this prison pen pal thing you you provided some notes
05:49:47.100
it started off with the letters then emails i think i guess they okay computers then calls
05:49:53.260
and eventually you went to visit him he was serving 10 years for selling drugs on the dark
05:49:57.820
web we got along great i was willing to be celibate for four years for him i wasn't just saying that
05:50:04.700
i knew just how long i was committing to he sent me flowers for my birthday it was very it was a very
05:50:10.220
weird but i found myself falling in love with just his voice and no he wasn't just sweet talking
05:50:15.260
me i said a boundary with all of my pen pals from the get get go that i wouldn't send them money
05:50:21.100
i was introduced to his best friend and i'm texas mom we didn't end up working out because in his own
05:50:27.100
words i don't want you serving the time with me go live your life you're so lucky they didn't do
05:50:33.100
something to you what would they have done they're in prison no but if you met his mother and somebody
05:50:38.060
from the outside they can perpetrate against you so many stories like that on the web
05:50:42.460
you know i think that's beautiful that he kind of wanted you to live your life
05:50:53.500
despite what people might think about criminals they're still people
05:50:56.860
they did a bad thing it does not define them i agree with you yeah that's why they're serving time
05:51:02.620
exactly they're doing their time i think what's interesting about it is that you've searched for
05:51:07.980
criminals on the web exactly to create relationships with friendships or or romantic i think that's
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why everyone's like whoa not because we're like oh my god a criminal this actually was a calm i
05:51:19.900
wouldn't say common but this was a thing in 2020 during quarantine really yes yeah it was a good trend
05:51:26.060
are you on like a netflix docuseries no i'm not on i love during lockup or something like that okay
05:51:32.140
what do you think about women who you know used to write to jeffrey dharma and ted bundy and stuff
05:51:37.900
like that cuckoo if they write with the intention of being romantic i wouldn't agree with that just
05:51:47.660
personally based off the crimes okay if you were single when this guy got out like and actually ready
05:51:55.420
to date would you give him like a chance like would you try to find him hit him up see if he's single
05:51:59.980
would i like hypothetically yeah we'll see because it sounds amicable oh yeah yeah it the dynamic would
05:52:09.580
definitely be different once he gets out good point so i think he made the correct choice um and saying
05:52:15.820
go live your life he was right yeah i have a question so do you like only date guys that are in
05:52:22.540
jail or is it or prison or is it like you date any like you know what i mean does it matter i
05:52:31.260
no i never claimed i only date men in prison okay hmm yeah you did say here that uh
05:52:40.300
i i think go live your oh i didn't finish the whole thing it says go live your life
05:52:44.940
maybe if you aren't married with kids by the time i get out we can try to have a real relationship i
05:52:50.620
thought he was just playing the long game for money but even his mom and best friend told me
05:52:55.420
he was really sad about the situation i don't talk to him anymore if when he does get out and you're
05:52:59.980
still single are you guys gonna link i don't know we'll see in two years i guess i'm not saying yes
05:53:07.260
i'm not saying no you still think about him no actually i have like object but okay so like you
05:53:15.100
know if i'm not let's like let's put you in the scenario he gets out you get a call from him
05:53:23.260
and he's like hey i want to rekindle this let's meet up do you say yes
05:53:32.460
with the current stage i'm at in my life right now most likely not okay all right let's see what
05:53:41.180
else we have here do you think men are insecure if they care about a woman's body count um no
05:53:56.700
like if it's more than one or if it's more than zero or like for example they think something is
05:54:02.780
high like too high for them so they comment on it sure uh i think as long as it's not like the binary
05:54:09.340
like virgin or not virgin um then no i don't think insecure no what do you think yes yes insecure
05:54:19.900
okay no no it's preference sheena i don't think men are insecure i think men want to have
05:54:28.460
something that not everybody share with that's what i think
05:54:33.340
so going around the table um what's your body count um i made a promise to my audience that i
05:54:45.260
wouldn't talk about this there's just like certain things that i wouldn't talk about because which
05:54:50.140
audience i'm just curious um i'm on tiktok okay and yeah there's just like like by me participating it
05:54:57.420
would be saying just gerald donated it's okay to judge someone off of that see kami okay she's
05:55:02.540
interesting she has something interesting to say she's pleasant her voice doesn't resemble a dying cat
05:55:08.860
pretending to be from la oh we don't have to bring women down to bring me up but thanks i guess oh damn
05:55:16.700
gerald also um kami is spelled k am i just you know for the sake of the whole podcast please don't think
05:55:23.900
that's how i spell my name it's not like communism yes yes thank you gerald that that tts came in
05:55:32.140
while you were making your point about body count you were saying what can you uh just repeat what you
05:55:36.860
said i've just seen the men and women in my life really suffer from it really um feeling like it defined
05:55:47.660
them and i just my audience was like please don't talk about that and so i'm gonna honor that what
05:55:56.540
do you mean this what do you mean they suffered what do you mean so i've seen like the men in my life
05:56:02.860
feel like they're not worth anything because it's like oh you haven't slept with a woman or like
05:56:08.620
you know you're not valid until you have had that i've heard like my dad say that to
05:56:13.420
my other family members and yeah and um and then it was like the woman in my life like
05:56:21.580
them being like oh if it's oh my god like if it's higher than one like i don't know i just i don't
05:56:29.340
want to like promote the like promote what the idea that you know it it negates all of your qualities
05:56:38.940
so you would object if a guy was like this woman is otherwise cool and great and everything but she
05:56:48.460
slept with a hundred men you think that that would be wrong for him to filter her out on that soul
05:56:55.100
basis if he doesn't want to be with her because of that that's his prerogative that's fine but it's
05:57:00.300
more about like the personal shame well i wonder if this and maybe andrea has thoughts on that i
05:57:07.420
wonder if this whole like well it's their preference they're allowed to have their preference i wonder
05:57:12.860
if that's a bit of an evasion to this question because do you have an issue with the preference
05:57:19.740
because we can sit here and say well i'm i'm fine with people having the preference they can have the
05:57:24.940
preference yeah but do i take issue with the preference well part of my value of acceptance
05:57:30.780
isn't just accepting things that align with my view i also accept that people have different views
05:57:36.860
because if we all thought the same like what the heck would life even be have you guys seen wall-e
05:57:43.260
show of hands it'd be like wall-e we'd all be just sitting around like looking at screens like
05:57:49.580
i don't know yeah all right um what's your body count um and just to clarify this is like in your
05:57:56.540
whole life dot 18 not just 18 plus whole life yeah okay um
05:58:28.380
six six i'm gonna evade question i'm avoiding it only because my son said but it wasn't a lot
05:58:38.060
because i was married for three and that's the real number no sometimes people are just not
05:58:42.620
comfortable due to religious backgrounds brian have you ever asked or have you ever answered
05:58:47.020
this question how many body counts you have brian i have not answered this question come on so answer
05:58:52.300
now i'm a virgin i don't believe it stop i i'm a virgin i'm a virgin you know how many long libya you had
05:59:02.940
can you give us a range between you know the girls that come on this well between zero and a thousand
05:59:21.660
could be zero it could be a thousand you know who knows who knows uh let's see
05:59:26.300
uh well i'm trying to think here uh hmm oh should we do i i want to do the bow video do we still have
05:59:37.260
bow video 2.0 pulled up do we have 2.0 i think we should have 2.0 we'll do 1.0 and 2.0 so the first
05:59:46.860
one features my ex-girlfriend uh you've never slept with huh that's right yeah all right so this is uh
05:59:57.420
this is my ex-girlfriend this is what i expect these are my expectations in a in a girlfriend
06:00:03.660
uh there's no audio all right uh boom huge bow you see that now that's what i expect she's not
06:00:11.500
really a girl a girl uh she's she's got to hit the bow if she doesn't hit the bow she doesn't
06:00:17.500
get the plow oh i just made that up oh that was a good one boys if she doesn't hit the bow she doesn't
06:00:23.580
get everyone look she's already got my dinner ready my noodles my beer ready to go i i had to scold her
06:00:31.500
for those tomatoes though she looks like she's terrified brian that's how i that's how i keep up
06:00:36.940
people in check okay um play it one more time just like the bow part though just just the
06:00:43.020
quick bow just hit the play button yeah boom huge huge bow um so going around the table would you be
06:00:53.020
willing to bow for your man if i loved him yeah for a second date for a second he's like hey i really
06:01:01.020
like you let me i need a bow though if it was like funny like i wouldn't bow out of like respect off
06:01:09.180
the second date okay but you would do it eventually okay what about you would you hit a bow if he asked
06:01:16.540
me directly i would say no your fiancee like at two days no you're engaged right oh sorry i thought you
06:01:23.740
meant the same question for me at second date let's just say your current oh yes if he asked me like
06:01:28.860
not as a joke like i would okay yeah ruby you'd hit the bow yeah okay i think it's kind of would
06:01:34.140
you hit the bow um yeah i would hit the bow yeah okay no you wouldn't hit the bow no no why not no
06:01:47.260
no bow no it's he's not bowing for me right oh my god like you wouldn't do like what's wrong with
06:01:53.260
that just to make him happy or is it just a one-time thing or is it every time i greet him i don't get
06:01:57.660
this whole like tit for tat thing like yeah it's like like here but here check this out what i don't
06:02:04.140
understand is y'all girls will be like well i suck his dick so he should suck my dick it's like hold on
06:02:15.740
you got offended when i asked if you would bow oh i wasn't offended okay but no i wouldn't actually
06:02:24.860
wait me and andrew got into this last show andrew we're gonna have a round two on the
06:02:29.180
the bow debate by the way i don't know if we have time tonight but it's not attractive if i'm in
06:02:33.100
bow at all one of these days andrew would not do it for the pro the perfect woman
06:02:38.460
not perfect whatever um you wouldn't you would you hit the bow that's my boyfriend i'm playful
06:02:46.140
yeah you do it okay sheena uh if you respect me and have sex with me every day yes oh okay
06:02:55.500
so you're the only one who wouldn't hit the bow why wouldn't you hit the bow
06:02:59.340
it just wouldn't be genuine if i if it's a joke and he knows it's a joke then yes i would but in a
06:03:05.340
genuine way no like in a playful genuine yeah i agree with that like playfully yeah yeah that's
06:03:10.940
cute well then yes like just that and that's it but seriously that's weird why is it weird no if
06:03:19.020
you're taking a series that's something you would do like for religious purposes they do it in many
06:03:23.740
countries for respect for respect in china in a lot of arab countries it's the gesture it's like
06:03:29.500
calling him like yeah that's cute i know a lot of countries they do like i think some countries
06:03:34.140
they kiss cheeks or something in china if it's someone you respect do you close their feet i
06:03:38.540
think or no that's actually in india oh yeah because my ex was indian but yeah and then china
06:03:43.020
bow yeah in the arab world they kiss the hand of the man and put their head like this oh i've seen
06:03:48.140
that yes yeah hmm what's weird to me i mean most of you said you would do the bow but you wouldn't
06:03:57.260
you wouldn't do the bow i said not genuinely not genuine in a playful way yes i don't know if this is the
06:04:02.780
case for you but like we've had girls on panel who are like i would not i would not do the bow for
06:04:07.820
a man and a lot of women would say that and i'm like but you'll let him hit within 30 minutes of
06:04:15.260
meeting it's like really son you won't do the bow or you won't cook or you won't do this you won't
06:04:20.300
like fold his laundry but you'll let him like blast on your face it's very confusing i'm confused you know
06:04:26.620
like you'll let him fuck you behind the dumpster you know you'll let him fuck you behind the dumpster
06:04:37.580
in the 7-eleven maybe if you say it more like you'll get a reaction i mean i'm not gonna bow for
06:04:42.460
my man like every day that's crazy but i would definitely do it in a playful manner like because
06:04:46.380
i want to laugh you know i think it's funny like just come here but if you want me to do all that extra
06:04:50.380
the way that girl bend in the video i'm not doing that the the yeah like her head i mean
06:04:56.380
that was yeah that's the the deep bow you can't do a a poverty bow oh my god you would get you would
06:05:05.100
get beat in china if you did like a little no you can't do the hat no no you might as well not do it
06:05:10.780
at all you might as well it's actually humiliating yeah you can't just do the little mini bow no
06:05:15.100
no you can't do it full 90 degrees full 90 yeah that's respect yeah what would you like yeah you
06:05:20.540
know what they would love you in china like can i go yeah yeah see you later guys oh wait wait just
06:05:26.220
stay for we're gonna wrap soon can you stay downstairs we're gonna go uh wait what right my ride you
06:05:32.940
gotta stay for the road session just is it an uber no it's my son and he's giving me a hard time oh
06:05:39.340
is he watching right now yeah he's like no but he needs to do something in the morning and we
06:05:44.860
had an accident with two cars so okay that's fine that's fine um anissa i'll just have you
06:05:51.180
usually i can stay no it's all good it's all good um but you know this whole you don't want to do the
06:05:55.500
bow you won't do the bow but like these girls they won't do the bow but they'll like let a guy give
06:06:02.300
them like like a cleveland steamer after like that night it's just like confusing i don't get it i think
06:06:06.860
it's uh feminism's gonna be wild in in terms of whether women now are taking the worst
06:06:14.700
parts of men and just acting like the worst parts of men like yeah it's cool to sleep around
06:06:21.660
it's like actually so insane the us versus them idea i was literally hosting friends one time
06:06:27.340
i walk into a room this guy's there watching elliot rogers things he's like oh all women are
06:06:33.020
this blah blah blah i was like dang and then i walk into the living room and this girl's like
06:06:37.580
all men are this like all men are horrible and it's like who's right i don't think either of them are right
06:06:43.020
what i see is i see these people who just want to love and be loved in a world that they don't trust
06:06:49.820
in a world that they're scared of like they're hurt you know i don't think that we need a we need to
06:06:56.700
like be fighting at each other's necks like oh women are terrible they're just like extremists like
06:07:01.660
old men are terrible like i think that people are people and that we should just wow that was beautiful
06:07:08.460
that was so beautiful i do think thank you but it also it doesn't answer the question as to why you
06:07:15.500
won't bow for a man but you'll let him like come on your face well i wouldn't know because that's not
06:07:20.380
like my person that's like not my but like a lot of women there are a lot of women who would do that
06:07:25.500
i'm not saying women at this table but there are a lot of women who would have that kind of what i
06:07:31.260
think i said she was like you said you wouldn't do that because she was saying like oh they wouldn't
06:07:38.860
bow but they'd let a guy come on their face and you're like i don't do that and i was like oh you
06:07:43.740
prefer it in the hair oh my god everyone laughed you got the whole squad laughing okay i mean i could only
06:07:55.420
speculate like why so i don't know well i think it is is to do with um just feminism and media and
06:08:03.020
what does it have to do with feminism well because feminism's gone too far so now women are acting like
06:08:08.300
men but they're acting like pigs they're not acting like good men well what does feminism have to do
06:08:12.860
with a woman not wanting to bow but getting stuff in her face well because you know modern women are
06:08:21.100
going out sleeping with lots of men and then not being submissive to men at all brian yeah i uh i
06:08:28.700
gotta roll out a little early too i have a vespers in the morning i gotta get to but i'm gonna do a
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raid over to your channel oh thank you so much andrew i i appreciate it it was nice to meet all of you
06:08:36.860
guys thanks for the spirited conversation thank you andrew uh andrew let's i got to talk to you
06:08:42.060
tomorrow about something if uh you have some time yeah all right well thank you andrew thank you so much
06:08:48.060
for joining man uh appreciate the uh incoming raid thank you thank you hope you have a good night
06:08:53.500
andrew uh all right any final thoughts here uh we're gonna do a roast session then we're gonna
06:08:58.620
wrap up the show so uh any uh final thoughts any topics you guys want to hit on that maybe we
06:09:05.020
didn't get to touch on i have a question i don't know if it's just me but you guys do you feel like
06:09:11.980
there's kind of a lot of division between both genders i don't know i just feel like that's kind of
06:09:17.500
it's just sad to see um because i feel like if we had more respect for each other there'd be a
06:09:23.100
lack of this discourse of like i hate women i hate men i'm like i think at the end of the day
06:09:29.020
truthfully we just want like respect and love from each other i think the battle of the sexes has
06:09:36.140
been going on for so long like i actually it makes me wonder if if it's ever gonna get better no no
06:09:42.380
if it makes me wonder if like humans living in like society like modern day society will ever
06:09:47.260
even overcome that or if it'll just be like a you know eternity long battle i think it'll be
06:09:53.740
an eternity long battle i feel like the roles are so intertwined nowadays it's just like everyone's
06:09:59.260
saying okay you need to act like a man and you're saying you need to act like a female or a woman and
06:10:03.180
be feminine and then men are very feminine nowadays and women are very masculine so it's kind of just like
06:10:08.860
this is just a hot mess honestly it's kind of like you gotta arrive whatever wave you're on
06:10:14.460
yeah choose wisely by the way guys tts is now uh twenty dollars we have a twenty dollar tts we're
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going to do the roast session then we're going to wrap the show so if you guys want to get in
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a roast a tts it's now twenty dollars if you want to sorry to interrupt if you want to
06:10:32.460
continue with your point oh no i think i finished did anybody else want to weigh in on her question
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grammeow xd donated twenty dollars and 24 cents all the talking over each other earlier gave me such
06:10:51.980
a headache much respect for both brian andrew um yeah thank you so much for the uh twenty dollar tts
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really appreciate it ab check thank you for the uh gifted 20 memberships you're a legend dude thank
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you so much man good to see you in the chat thank you man big 20 gifted thank you so much man uh so yeah
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tts is 20 if you want to get a roast in i mean you can roast her you can roast her you can roast her you
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can roast her you can roast her roast her don't roast anisa though she's she's uh she got it a little
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bad last time the roasting uh and now you can roast her too vector donated twenty dollars chair two is
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a popcorn generator can i get brewers yeast with that no i don't want your infection while i love asians
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you are not my asian however thank you for the entertainment it is entertaining oh sorry are we
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just going all the rows are like are we allowed to react you can you can respond absolutely i've
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never gotten std or sti and you're welcome for the entertainment that is my goal
06:12:08.780
oh i don't know why i'm looking at that that was a brain fart on my part i was like waiting for you to
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say something but yeah so if you guys want twenty dollar tts we're doing the roast session oh we did
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let's play bow video to luis thank you for the gifted 10 memberships really appreciate it man thank you so
06:12:31.020
much uh you're a legend luis i think you sent in a bunch last show so thank you man uh bow video
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two let's do bow video two i forget that's the thing i wanted to pull up i'm gonna pause the tts
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just temporarily just so we can let that uh play and i think no audio i'm pretty sure we want no audio
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yeah so this is um this is kind of like upgraded a little bit but then there's a twist
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i mean this is i think this is great too this is great too
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i i think this is how it should be oh wait what what exactly hold on bro
06:13:26.620
bro damn that's well he still got his bow though the first half of that
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the first half was good the first half was good but the rest was not good would any of you do that
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like kneel take his shoes off i actually used to take off my uh boyfriend's shoes when he came home
06:13:48.220
because this is funny because his feet are huge it was like it was like impossible but he would also
06:13:53.500
take off my shoes word that's cool i kind of criticize her technique a little bit though
06:14:01.740
because she was touching the underside of the shoe like there's a way you could take the shoe off
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without like you do the heel you grab from the the top you know so all right i think like the video
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guys the idea of the first part of the video i think is no different from a girl being like look
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i have this nice guy that drives me around and he bought me a handbag you know it's like kind of
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like i don't think it's any different but people seem to go crazy when they see a woman submitting
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to a man but if it were a woman making a tick tock oh my my boyfriend drives a sports car and he
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picks me up and opens the door for me and all that kind of stuff you know yeah that would be fine
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that would you know that wouldn't even go viral yeah i feel like we see that meme a lot like with
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the girls but it's like only when the guy's literally doing everything that you want you know
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like i make jokes like that i'll do all this for him so long as he's like what i want in a man
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i mean i don't know if this is like the point that brian's getting at but sometimes it really just is
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for content and entertainment purposes like i think like the couple had a lot of fun i don't know if
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they do that every day but i think they had a lot of fun making that but i would make i would have a
06:15:07.500
lot of fun making that video with my fiance i think it's a bit deeper though because i think if women
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in general just i think when i say you know when i was referring to feminism earlier and i say it's
06:15:17.260
gone too far i think if women just pulled back a bit and women were a bit more submissive and offered
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that it would then force men to be better partners and think well actually i want one of those women
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that will sort of cook for me and stuff but in return you know she wants me to sort of open the
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door for her and be polite and you know not be vulgar in front of her and stuff like that and
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it would then generate you know better value men rather than kind of men not having any responsibility they
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can do what they want women can do what they want and nothing matters and all that kind of stuff
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i think it would enable more respect between um genders honestly yeah and like the plot twist at
06:15:53.100
the you know and the plot twist where he's cooking if there were like a video where you know maybe it's
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like a guy's buying a girl handbags in the sports car like you said but then she goes back home and is
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bowing and you know serving her food and then he's cooking like wouldn't that be an interesting plot
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twist like would it be so controversial as this one well yeah men on i feel like men on you know
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treating those women that are getting that lifestyle from men on the women who are like acting wild
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like on social media and stuff and all the women who are like shouting at him or saying you need to do
06:16:26.300
this and i won't do this and saying no to him all the time and stuff like that they're probably like
06:16:30.460
very nice partners i will say social media is kind of a lie a lot of people making a lot from stuff like
06:16:37.340
instagram and tiktok it's very different from when you meet them in person i think that's what
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it's called like rage oh rage bait oh rage rage bait yeah things are like that it's like to trigger
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people yeah to get engagement yeah don't take it seriously it's kind of like this like podcast it's
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rage bait i mean that's why i'm here and i was like you're gonna wait hold on well let's explore
06:16:57.820
that claim so uh what what is rage bait about the podcast i mean it's pretty self-explanatory rage
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no why don't you actually articulate your argument okay so you feel like there's moments where i think
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even the girls can agree there's like moments of hostility and that's like to cause rage bait
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amongst the viewers like your facial expressions like they tell it all yeah anybody who has like
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eyes can see like okay body language it's telling even when you say nothing like bringing up the kkk and
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hitler bro like yeah yeah and also you were like sorry and you also like have done troll answers
06:17:33.100
and then like caught yourself but you're like i did one troll answer yeah but think about the
06:17:37.740
troll answers that you didn't identify i mean that's how you get to make it though yeah to make it more
06:17:43.020
simple like why don't you just scream rachel every time i can't really do it three if you want so let's go
06:17:47.100
over your claims here okay so your claims are what rage bait that's literally all rage bait yeah
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okay articulate it it's pretty like i said self-explanatory no it's not self-explanatory
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what's the meaning of rage and then what's the meaning of bait it's like a test here i'll google
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it i'll google the definition and you tell me if you agree with the definition okay rage baiting is a
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manipulative tactic used to get people to react emotionally to content usually with the goal of
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increasing engagement and revenue yeah so like people use rage bait titles so titles that are
06:18:21.020
kind of like whoa and that's more like like clickbait it's pretty similar to what rage bait like
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encompasses but are you saying that you're being sort of tricked into coming on here for rage bait
06:18:32.140
oh no no no no no no no no no i think she meant the way that the content yeah is marketed like for
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example like you know knowing your audience is like traditional males you purposely you know it's like
06:18:43.980
strategy to bring feminists and you know adult workers and stuff and they have titles like
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misandrist toxic blah blah blah like like we're talking about you literally are a misandrist
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then why do i love my fiancee and in the past my exes i was very isn't this the same argument of
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like well i have a one black i never said i can't be racist isn't that the exact same argument
06:19:06.460
um i have a black friend therefore i've loved multiple men in the past like different exes so
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not at the same time but i don't discriminate against men for being men like i just truly i
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wouldn't have even met my fiancee if i were someone to just jump to the conclusion oh you're a man you're
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toxic there's too many completing claims here so let's go back to you can you actually articulate
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how the podcast is rage bait because you're saying well brian you get angry well me being like
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frustrated or angry by what's going on the podcast that i mean that might be you might consider that
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like beat me being angry i don't see what that has to do with a rage bait no i didn't say those
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moments okay but you said i make faces yeah that's normal body you made faces all night too cool we both
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made faces are you rage baiting you could say so okay i wouldn't say you're rage baiting just
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because you have a facial expression but can you actually articulate how i or the podcast rage baits
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um titles or videos i can't look i mean i don't i'm not really i mean if the titles accurate accurately
06:20:14.380
describe the content i think but you're smart enough to know that what you do is um it lures a certain
06:20:22.140
type of audience that is in your favor well what what type of audience does it allure why don't
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you tell me tell me i'm not no no you made the claim it's your job i haven't done enough research
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on no but you made the claim you cannot you made the claim so why don't you tell me no i'm just
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saying i feel like there's maybe moments like i sense that there's moments in the time that like
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i've seen the girls speak you speak and interact i can't give you an example from the top of my head
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no no but you made a claim about the audience so what is your claim about the audience
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all i said was that like you know your audience and you know what type of titles or content allures
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to your audience a smart business person would do that that's not the same as like clickbait though
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and sort of being deceptive and manipulative it's just so i know what you mean i've seen titles of
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shorts that will say you know feminist this but like that is literally just like a descriptive
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title that is short and gets attention it's not going to be very reasonable rational woman has
06:21:20.700
a calm conversation with brian because it just doesn't happen yeah i mean i'm just comparing like
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like you know little clips on tiktok or something to something minuscule like a clip from here you know
06:21:32.700
i know you mean like a little bit like taking the highlight reels because it's engaging it's exciting
06:21:37.660
for people to watch in 10 seconds versus scrubbing through the podcast and finding the like exciting parts
06:21:42.780
um and then having like on the tiktok sometimes like captions or whatever to make it exciting
06:21:49.020
but again you're gonna have to actually explain what is the actual what's the actual claim here
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i'm still a little confused how it's rage baiting i didn't say this podcast was rage baiting i was
06:22:01.420
giving a small comparison of rage rage moments like if i put a clip of like 10 seconds on this podcast that
06:22:09.180
will allure somebody that's kind of you could pick a moment that will isn't this just i mean but isn't
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this just common in all forms of entertainment yeah like if there's a highlight reel i'm trying to make
06:22:21.180
if there's a highlight reel of a football game they're not going to make a highlight of all the
06:22:25.420
downtime and all the timeouts they're going to show the touchdown they're going to show some really
06:22:30.060
good tackle so if there's an exciting entertaining moment on the podcast that's not right of course
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that's going to be what gets clipped but i'm a little confused okay well i don't think you've really
06:22:45.740
really articulated your point but i mean i'm open to hearing it out if you want to try
06:22:58.380
um i don't know i i think maybe it's being taken out of context i just try to make like a comparison
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between a small clip maybe that you could put here versus a small clip comparing like to another video
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online i'm not saying the encompasses of your entire content is that i'm just giving examples
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and so that just to be clear the entire claim is just it's rage bait what claim that i'm just i'm
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just gonna let the tts come through yo guys tts is 20 if you won't get it donated 20 dollars brian
06:23:32.460
had to give you 20 just for dealing with this panel chair one's mental gymnastics to dodge
06:23:37.180
questions is absolutely mind-numbing props on your patience brian yo uh jay niche thank you man
06:23:43.740
appreciate it johnson donated 20 be careful lady to not sneeze so your faces don't slide off andrew and
06:23:50.620
brian keep up god's work by showing the delusion these women live in yo ethan thank you man appreciate
06:23:56.620
the uh tts thank you so much man reality blown underscore on underscore x donated twenty dollars
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and sixty nine cents these dumb slopes started attacking you the second andrew left it wasn't
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rage bait it was women who can't fight their own positions because they're illogical you all sound
06:24:12.940
pathetic especially you daryl underscore frank castle 512 donated twenty dollars any man that sits in a room
06:24:22.860
with six dumb asses would make faces too male sign boy uh yeah the real frank castle thank you for the
06:24:30.780
uh tts yeah look man i mean there's a lot going on behind the scenes that uh i'm not disclosing at the
06:24:40.540
moment but perhaps might be disclosed in coming shows but uh and in addition to that i mean look every
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doing these shows twice a week uh look you're trying to put on the production uh people don't
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have the same standard of professional conduct as you do uh it's very it gets very frustrating and i
06:24:59.980
get tilted you know we got people running late i want to credit those of you who did arrive on time i
06:25:06.140
believe you were on time you were on time you were on time i think you were on time late late late and then
06:25:14.700
late it's frustrating i because i if the show is starts late i get all the flack for it uh and if
06:25:23.980
it was up to me we would probably be able to start these shows at 4 4 45 should everybody actually show
06:25:31.020
on time but they don't it delays the start of the show that's obviously frustrating for me i want to get
06:25:35.660
the show out on time um people don't listen to the pre-show instructions no offense to most of you
06:25:41.260
half of you were on your phone despite austin who is very polite to all of you saying hey guys i have
06:25:47.180
to give you pre-show instructions for 10 minutes please listen you were taking a story some of the
06:25:53.180
rest of you were on your phone sheena was on her phone there's a bunch of stuff that's like just
06:25:57.820
annoying that goes on behind the scenes so i mean it is what it is i wanted to ask do you do the podcast
06:26:04.540
so late because people won't come to it earlier well i mean people have work so i mean i four p we
06:26:12.860
meet time is four p.m we go live at five p.m actually we used to do uh six p.m meet time go live at seven
06:26:20.380
for some of our earlier episodes but that was i thought that was too late so oh i forgot not
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everybody's gonna be like full-time social media and stuff but people come from normal jobs yeah so if
06:26:30.460
you have a normal job like we figure it might be more more possible for somebody to come in
06:26:37.340
like at four versus like if we did the shit at noon yeah i feel like that'd be a bigger
06:26:42.380
hurdle for getting guests yeah because a lot of people have jobs or or school or you know something
06:26:48.620
so yeah uh let's see what else we have guys final call if you guys want to get your uh tts in uh
06:27:06.060
this is actually going to be a short ish show i feel like that's so weird you guys thought i was
06:27:11.020
trolling like you guys were or like you kind of rachel actually got upset like she started calling
06:27:16.860
me names because she couldn't even defend her position
06:27:19.180
wait she couldn't defend her position or she could
06:27:27.180
dariel underscore frank castle 512 donated twenty dollars so they make themselves sound stupid on
06:27:34.620
live and then blame you for being clipped i'm watching live from nyc it's almost 3 a.m
06:27:41.740
um vector donated twenty dollars yo vector thank you lady can you say the word no brian did you
06:27:49.580
know that the british voice mostly used by your donations is called brian i do know that the voice
06:27:55.500
is it's the brian voice it's called brian thank you vector can you say no well do they want me to
06:28:01.340
be like no like do they want it like british or is it like a question of they don't say no
06:28:07.420
what was that did anybody hear that that's peculiar um that was up dog uh well i think
06:28:16.620
like you know how the australians say oh no no no i don't think the british do it that way no no
06:28:24.540
that's the genuine no yeah it kind of sounded like you guys like the accents but everyone always
06:28:29.660
thinks i'm australian we have uh william casaris thank you man for the super chat i don't know what's
06:28:35.180
more annoying her valley fake voice or her dgen a moral scamming both thank you william appreciate
06:28:41.660
it man twenty dollar tts if you guys want to get it in yeah look i mean uh what was i gonna say i
06:28:48.460
forgot oh i was definitely tilted tonight like i fucked up i shouldn't have got so tilted but it is
06:28:54.940
what it is um there's a lot going on behind the scenes so um anyways maybe maybe we'll talk about
06:29:03.020
at some point but professionalism huh professionalism what do you have different
06:29:09.260
wait hold on you said like there's a lot going on over the scenes so you got tilted but it's okay
06:29:14.780
to have this different standard of uh professionalism that you hold others to
06:29:21.180
i'm sorry what do you mean earlier you were saying like oh some people have different
06:29:24.620
definitions of professionalism and you know that's not great for your you know whatever your flow
06:29:34.060
like that is what you said right but you getting tilted is that beneficial for the show like
06:29:39.980
no it's not okay so you are also working on professionalism would you say that yeah sure i
06:29:45.820
would certainly agree that being frustrated is unprofessional but if somebody smacks you in the
06:29:50.060
face and you smack them back and it's on camera is that professional i would never do that at work
06:29:55.820
i would never you wouldn't defend yourself at work whether it's i'm working for someone else or my
06:30:00.860
company would you let somebody smack you in the face at work i wouldn't say come smack me but if
06:30:05.660
they smack me i would not you wouldn't hit them back okay well you and me are especially if it's on
06:30:09.740
video the difference here so to as a as a attempt to articulate my point it's frustrating when
06:30:16.860
you've gone over the rules with people and they continuously defy the rules they don't listen
06:30:23.580
case in point you you were on your phone when austin over here i was perfectly polite to you
06:30:29.580
was trying to go over the pre-show information and when people are on their phone hold on when people
06:30:33.820
are on their phone when my staff my team is going over the pre-show information they don't know how to
06:30:40.620
conduct themselves on the show because they weren't listening that's what led to the constant you
06:30:45.500
probably missed the part where we say one microphone at a time don't be interrupting each
06:30:49.660
other don't be don't have multiple microphones talking so yes as somebody who who's tries to
06:30:55.980
be orderly it's frustrating when the guests on the show do not conduct themselves in an orderly way
06:31:02.780
yeah maybe it frustrates me live because we are live if this was pre-recorded we would just cut out
06:31:08.620
all the tilt it would just be the content but it's live so yeah you're going to capture the frustration
06:31:13.580
it just happened twice but objectively i actually do think you guys could like throw in a rule like
06:31:18.220
just wait one second like after someone finishes because a lot of us started talking after a pause
06:31:24.700
i mean there was constant like cross talk and back and forth and or not back and forth excuse me
06:31:32.140
like interrupt interruptions and you guys were talking over each other even though we tell you
06:31:38.460
like one microphone at a time and there's a bunch of other stuff too yeah i mean since we're going
06:31:43.900
into it like me waiting downstairs for 13 minutes when arriving on time i didn't really see that as
06:31:49.020
professional i would never i've never seen that in my tech work you can go back and see
06:31:55.740
yeah i'll pull it up on the security camera but oh but maybe censor the account i'm not i don't know
06:32:01.580
what you're talking about but yeah it's called staging so i don't think that i think that has
06:32:07.420
that please arrive at 4 p.m yeah that has more that has and i was there yeah that has someone will
06:32:13.260
like okay i'm like finishing like someone said send a message and we'll come down and pick you up
06:32:18.940
something like that right like i think everyone got that message yeah at 402 i was like huh
06:32:24.540
i'll see where i went to both doors because i thought maybe i was in the wrong place you went
06:32:29.260
to the wrong door yeah yeah but i went to both doors because i actually misunderstood because i
06:32:33.340
was like oh there's no way they would just leave me on red i'm here so i went to the other door then
06:32:38.300
i realized oh i'm at the wrong door because i was thinking hey maybe they thought turn left at the block
06:32:43.900
what's that corner store not the tacos i definitely was 15 minutes late i definitely went to the wrong
06:32:50.060
door too and i did read the directions and everything which is how i discovered i was at the wrong
06:32:54.300
door yeah i checked both i mean i came because i drove away from la too and i had to do it from
06:33:00.140
ss yeah i drove from it took time off my startups yeah it doesn't make any excuses but i came from
06:33:07.740
london and i was on time yeah i'm just saying professional so maybe everyone can so you're
06:33:12.540
definitely not gonna be late yeah i'm just saying maybe everyone can work on professionalism and it's
06:33:16.540
not just the gas so okay hold on wait wait wait wait hold on so you're a hundred
06:33:24.060
percent wrong you are a hundred percent wrong and this is slander and a false accusation i have
06:33:29.580
security camera footage with time stamps at uh 408 you enter that door i sent so that means and my
06:33:37.980
staff does a thorough security what with the wrong door because i actually entered that door facing
06:33:43.020
that side don't fucking dox you fucking oh my god i don't talk shut up so at 408 at 408
06:33:51.980
you guys came through our door in the studio yeah so it was not 413 and that means that for my staff
06:34:01.020
to have gone to have done security check on four people i can see what what time they went down to
06:34:06.620
get you guys you guys went down at like 403 or something so you would have made contact with her at
06:34:14.540
four sorry that we were four minutes fucking pathetic bro you said 4 p.m so it's actually
06:34:21.100
eight minutes that's just generally how professionalism works when you say what are you
06:34:24.940
talking about my staff was down there within five minutes and it's called staging next time tell
06:34:30.620
people 408 maybe we'll be late that's all i'm saying like professionalism maybe like maybe
06:34:35.020
the fuck are you talking about maybe we'll be a few minutes late why are you being so defensive
06:34:39.900
you're attacking because you lied because you lied because it was not 413 no it was not for
06:34:46.540
i have a time stamp that i'd be happy to show you you guys walked through that door into the studio
06:34:52.940
at 408 yes it doesn't make a difference between 402 me messaging and 408 us coming on like my staff
06:34:59.980
was down there within six minutes wait the me time is they had to take three minutes to check the
06:35:06.700
message then they took three minutes to go downstairs look are you really are you're
06:35:11.500
actually are spending so much time you're actually are slurred for being butthurt because
06:35:17.580
you had to wait for four minutes i've actually never encountered that with professionals so
06:35:22.860
you've never had to wait four minutes fucking unbelievable i think this conversation is making
06:35:27.260
me lose brain cells yeah honestly not to answer the point about coming from la the route from
06:35:35.500
london to santa barbara is london la than santa barbara wait so you flew here yeah i flew from
06:35:42.620
london to america i know but did you drive from l.a you said you came from london yeah so you have to
06:35:48.380
fly to the airport in l.a let's drive let it start yes okay i didn't know that yeah thank you trenton
06:36:01.580
jess gerald donated twenty dollars commie stop while you're behind
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uh gerald thank you man appreciate it thor donated twenty dollars
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chair number one can't answer a simple question without complicating it and chair number two
06:36:24.140
can't take any accountability and delusional puck you there i said it i feel like i make
06:36:30.300
questions more simple daryl underscore frank castle five hundred and twelve donated twenty dollars
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thank god grandma left already she takes too long to land the plane chair two definitely hates men
06:36:44.220
hopefully her fiance learn what type of woman she is and dodges that bullet he's watching brian
06:36:50.460
atlas donated 19.99 thank you brian atlas goes like this burrito burrito burrito burrito burrito
06:37:02.780
and comes back like yep yep that's true gmd jim donated 20 thank you jim the average
06:37:12.220
iq of the gorilla is 70 to 90. 61 countries have an average human iq of that same 70 to 90 and 18
06:37:20.380
countries are below that at 51 to 69. trump please come back and finish the wall
06:37:28.540
sono donated 20 dollars imagine doxing the location kappa yo sono thank you man appreciate it yeah jim
06:37:35.340
thank you for the uh thank you for the uh thank you for the comment about average iq appreciate it man
06:37:42.220
um yeah bro fucking four minutes four minutes i'm sorry about the docs four minutes but to be fair
06:37:50.700
you guys also talked to me what okay harrah uh to the ladies who showed up late or couldn't follow
06:37:58.860
proper rules you owe brian about caught you brian you got me thank you uh brian is the goad of patience
06:38:07.900
i would have caught a case a long time ago whoa uh i mean what does called a case mean it means like
06:38:14.300
he would have like you're gonna do something criminal he would attack somebody okay got it
06:38:18.860
okay i'm someone i rate right yeah salt and battery all right um let's see here uh
06:38:27.260
i think uh that's pretty much it if you guys want you can get your last minute uh message in i'm
06:38:31.820
gonna wrap up the show so uh we're gonna do a twitch raid who are we gonna raid let me see
06:38:36.380
what's a raid like on twitter it's when you like push your audience to another twitch channel oh yeah
06:38:53.980
so let me see one sec guys we're gonna get the twitch raid kind of somewhat set up
06:38:58.940
so we can do a smooth outro here who do we have
06:39:04.540
all right contentious show certainly um who do we oh davon jackson i just got here when y'all were
06:39:12.620
arguing about talking over each other i went back to a random point in the pot five hours ago yep and
06:39:19.100
you were all talking over each other yeah yo davon thank you for the uh tts man really good to see
06:39:25.340
you in the chat appreciate your uh long time uh long time support okay we have nico four donated
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twenty dollars one last 24 how fucking dare you austin austin and desmond look a simp simp
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money for austin and fucking rollo how fucking dare you and fucking victor donated twenty
06:39:46.140
how fucking dare you guys for being four minutes late you're twenty dollars richer you're welcome
06:39:50.620
um poor dude rage baiting every pinball machine in his whole town poor dude you you know what you
06:39:57.260
guys are all fucking fired for being four minutes late and fucking pieces of shit you got you know how
06:40:04.220
could you disrespect this sex worker by being formed how could you how dare you disrespect her
06:40:15.180
devon jackson donated twenty dollars that's crazy also w hard tilted brixton she rage baited you
06:40:22.620
brother lmfa she did rage bait me it was a good rage she got she got me all raged out um
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ah all right um tilted is so funny yeah definitely tilted all right the goal
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yeah you bet you were intentionally provocative i feel like yeah yeah like i said it's all business to me
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me yeah pleasure not pleasure doing business with you um uh let's see all right bobca whoa grandma who
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did we do we're gonna raid bobca he's playing yeah we're definitely rating bobca uh not yet not quite
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yet we won't pull it up i just gotta do the outro all right guys well gg oh can you put the uh audio on
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really quick i'll read anisa could you read this chair two you better show your fiancee some gratitude
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for putting up with your snarky mouth if it was me i'd have you dumped oh you i have i have dumped
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you a week into just knowing you once again thank you oh go ahead once again this is my fin dom twitter
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persona it's just business i would never talk to him like this and i don't know if he's still
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watching or sleeping but yeah i mean it only matters to us too right why does like my life concern you
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darryl underscore frank castle 512 donated 20 dollars shorty in the pink said she was 15 minutes late
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but it's okay cause that's still early for negro bro exactly
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come on guys don't say shit like that guys okay um oh all right um so anyways uh gg well played last
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whatever on instagram if you can make it to santa barbara just to be nice to uh k dog over here okay
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sorry i can't say cambra cambra kibra kibra kibra k dog yeah i will allow you to put your duck photos on
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the table for the for for the final portion of the show she wanted to have these she snuck one
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desmond austin mdoc k-pop britson and the newest member anissa this is this is
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forgive me for simping but anissa be a distraction sitting there so pretty
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thanks oh okay uh yo thank you man appreciate it and then yeah so she has these this is my favorite
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this is my instagram duck he's called duck official it's not he's not mine it has like a
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million followers like are these just photos you found on google or they actually no this is called
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duck official on instagram this is my favorite instagram account i found this one on google look
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how cute he is look at his little beak i keep these in my in my journal because they're so cute and they
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make me happy um yeah but i have ducks like all over i have ducks as like the covers for some of my music
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so there's just like they're they're in my life and so uh you know i had to i had to be
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firm but fair she wanted them on on the show i had you know i had to say no but she's not she's
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very sneaky though she left one on the table but there you go i obliged your duck thing i couldn't put
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bartholomew away ah shoot i bartholomew i made a fortune teller out of him it's really
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it's one of these sad ew anyways that was i don't know what that was
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that's all what else oh the ray let me just i want to double check i want to make sure there's no
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tts's that could cut off or anything okay i think we're good guys like the video please on your way
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oh we we gotta do a final twitch shout out uh guys go to twitch.tv slash whatever twitch.tv slash
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whatever right before we do the raid and we wrap the show you gotta go to twitch.tv slash whatever
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andrew you got to get there it is verbal combat debate university.com you got to get the course
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debate university.com uh i think that's it we're gonna raid bobca do you have him oh oh my okay well
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he was streaming for like 10 hours so sorry let me find somebody else uh let's see who else is online
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sorry guys one sec i gotta find who somebody else to raid then
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uh do we do aladar or whoa grandma i think since i was kind of toxic tonight we got to do a wholesome
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raid to whoa grandma so we're gonna raid her guys she's 82 be nice she's playing world of warcraft
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classic uh she's been streaming for about four hours 250 viewers we're gonna give her a raid
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uh she's playing no she's not playing world of warcraft classic she's playing retail all right you
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got the audio on on that all right guys i'm gonna send the raid in 10 seconds thank you guys so much for
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watching on twitch uh before we send this over just check if you have a follower prime sub but
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uh oh could you put us on the other side yes uh right corner way down here
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all right yo already pulled it so i hope you're there yo yo oh sorry i'm sending the raid now okay
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thank you guys for watching on twitch sending me the raid now thank you guys good night
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looks like she's in a raid that's a what uh 10 20 30. hey whatever hi there she's
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fucking that thing up belladar spawn are you a gamer i used to be i used to play world of warcraft
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i haven't played video games in like three years though too busy um what this is a big that's a big
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raid there there's one she's got a better stream setup than we do look at that look at all those leds
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back there we gotta upgrade the studio here all right i saw two people that's it uh all right all
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right oh seven's in the chat oh seven's in the chat i hope you guys have a good night thank you
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get into the panel appreciate you guys coming on oh seven's in the chat good night guys we'll see you
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uh on certainly on sunday for another dating talk good night guys