BANGS STORMS OFF？! (RAGE QUIT) ｜ Dating Talk #101
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In this episode of the Whatever Dating Talk Podcast, we have our first guest on the show, a porn star named Leila Jenner, who tells us about her dating life, how she got into the porn industry, and what it's like being a pornstar.
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ado we're going to have the guests introduce themselves so please tell us your name age and
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occupation thank you flan life for the 20 by the way thank you i'm leila jenner i'm 20 and i'm a
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porn star okay you're 20 any relation to the kardashians or is that just like you're made up
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like the aesthetic yeah no i mean like a genetic relation you think i look like a genetic no like
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a genetic relation no okay all right was i'm assuming that was the inspiration though for your
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name oh for sure you like it do i like the name yeah i feel i don't really feel strong one way or
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the other about about the name i don't dislike it or like it i have no strong feelings one way or the
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other but uh i think you like it but it's okay you don't have to tell me congratulations on your
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fake name okay what about you um my name is anai and i am a student and i do only fans age oh i'm 21
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all right welcome back hi i'm k i'm 18 and i'm a personal assistant and i do only fans okay her
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personal assistant you're her personal assistant yeah how much does she pay you that's none of your
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business thank you i don't talk about my financials that's fine um what does she have you do like do
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you go around and get coffee for her no i'll make her do that with me if that's the case yeah but um
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wait you're dictating the term you're no i'm like let's go get coffee like you know i'm not gonna be
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like go get me a coffee yeah that's what the personal assistant does she like um sometimes like i
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she drives me to all my shoots oh yeah okay a lot of times i have to go to a shoot and then go to a
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meeting like right after and it's like i have to like wear a different outfit than what i was like
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wearing in a porno like you know so oh yeah i'll have to like get her party outfits i'll have to
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quite literally like talk to some weird people but okay personal assistant there you go what about you
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my name is katie i'm 23 and i work in marketing all right welcome i'm allison i'm 24 and i do pr
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marketing for uh jersey short women's center that is so cool i'm rachel i'm 25 i'm a yoga and fitness
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instructor and i also work in network marketing
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i'm billy ray i'm 25 and i support the patriarchy for a living
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i'm dan i go by dm dating on all socials i am a dating expert and men's attraction coach
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all right welcome everybody we're gonna go around the table once more and i do have a couple
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questions about your guys's uh careers especially billy there with the uh you're the what was it
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the i told you it was gonna be a go it was good it was good i support the patriarchy you support
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the patriarchy i'm like that part-time or full-time full-time like the real life can
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ftg thank you for the 50. um so we're gonna go around the table once more so what is your current
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relationship status so are you single talking stage situationship friends with benefits
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relationship married in a polycule sex cult how long have you been uh a harum even how long have
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you been single and what's if you if you are single and what's the longest relationship you've ever been
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in go ahead okay so i have a husband he's mormon but i'm dating zirka
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talking to the mic oh yeah thank you okay i have a husband he's mormon um he's great but i'm dating
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zirka um okay hold on just a sec here so you are you just trolling i'm not trolling so you you are
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legally married to it's honestly helpful because he's like he's like supportive so he's like have fun in
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your 20s like type she's not lying no i wish he was he was in utah i visit him but it's like where
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are you from i'm originally from a small town in texas okay how did you meet the guy how what's the
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story with a mormon guy i met him in college he was on a mission isn't that cute
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i met him in college he was on a mormon mission okay yeah how old is he he's 21 he's 21 okay uh when
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did you guys get married we got married it wasn't it wasn't a real marriage it was like we just signed
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it because like so okay he's mormon and he wanted to be a bishop but you have to be married before you
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become a bishop so it was like for that i'm calling bullshit on this story because you can call bullshit
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are you mormon are you mormon i live with her i think she's telling the truth was like she very
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baptized mormon but if you signed it how is it not a real marriage well it is legally but we didn't
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have we didn't have our wedding we just signed the papers okay but that's a real marriage you don't
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need a wedding to have a yeah thank you wait did you have okay people don't agree do you have a
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marriage license from a courthouse yeah and did you have a like a religious wedding ceremony too
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well we got married in the temple okay so you had the religious ceremony yeah why i just don't i just
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don't consider it marriage marriage for me until i get have like a real wedding nor do we why did
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you get married why because i love him and we're gonna be married no matter what but he needed it
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to become a bishop so it's an arranged marriage for him yeah i'm a helpful girl so you're and what
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do you and what do you get out of it i love him i do love him what what's the purpose of you being
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married to him i can't always get divorced i signed a prenup like that's not a big you know like
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why not get married this this story is it's like vegas so you're telling me where did he meet you
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this would be really normal in vegas it's not crazy yeah he met me he met me in my college town
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as a mormon texas in california yeah in texas i went to tech okay so you're telling me a deeply
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religious mormon man who wants to have a position in the church who he's currently a bishop and he's
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dating me and i'm a porn star and he's okay with that i don't i mean your story your story's cute
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but i don't buy it that's fine you can look it up like i can look it up like i've said this ever
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since i've ever started like we've been together if you go into the june archived of any of her
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socials you'll see all of it see what like yeah like you'll see i don't think everything she posted
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about it you don't have to believe it it's not crazy to be like married like i'm not i'm not
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saying it's crazy well i am unbelievable about it in texas yeah what's unbelievable i think you just
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haven't met that a mormon would like maybe she wasn't a porn star yeah i wasn't i wasn't a porn
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star when we met and he knows i'm fucked up and so he's like you know like let me live my journey
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okay that's what's like let's let me use this girl and then drop her later no he's he wants to be
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married to me forever i'm the one that's like i can go fuck whoever i want you know did you guys
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consummate the marriage what do you mean was the marriage consummated oh my god i'm so dumb i don't
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know what that word means that checks out um uh we couldn't have sex until we we didn't have sex
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until we got legally married okay so you consummated the marriage yeah but i would still fuck other
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people i okay so he's the fact that it was before the fact that you got married before you started
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doing s work makes it a little bit more believable however i me personally i find it hard to believe
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that a deeply religious mormon man that's fine you would marry someone and then tolerate what's like
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crazy to believe about it that's like well i just that it's absurd have you never met someone that's
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like have you never met someone that's like married and fucking someone else like have you ever heard of
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cucks we call that cheating that's pretty haram but like there's cucks and shit it's probably there's
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cucks out there but in my life just like yeah that's what i can be with someone that's okay with
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cheating yeah what you do for a living creates a lot of them actually yeah when you went what'd you
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say what you do for a living actually creates a lot of those guys i was gonna say that creates a lot
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of what a lot of the cucks that she's talking about yeah it does i've had i think about that too
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i'm like wow you really enjoy watching me get fucked like that's crazy yeah chat hold on let's ask the
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chat chat do you buy her story one in the chat chat that knows me from zirka's stream will all
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comment and say that this is all true one in the chat if you believe her story two in the chat if
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you think it's yes isn't that zirka's girl yes everyone from zirka's stream tell them that
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i'm not lying we don't we don't deny that you're zirka's girl we are denying
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i had to drive her to utah like i was so random it was just absolutely random
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but why hasn't he divorced you you're sleeping with other men dude he loves me have you never
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met someone that's in love with someone that's cheating on them a lot of just be okay with it
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yeah i had to this guy i feel like he would have been even more interesting to have on this
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and he gets to yeah we should have this guy yeah why don't you bring guys on here
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what are you talking about we got yeah but like why don't you bring like i'll tell you i'll tell
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you exactly why different types of guys i told you i was like you shouldn't i want to invite my
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friends on here well i'll tell you why i don't want to and i wanted eric on here too okay i'll tell
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you it was good it was juicy you didn't want it you ready okay so most guys they they claim that they
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oh if if a girl says this i'll be able to rebut her and i'm gonna own i'm gonna own like i'm a
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really good debater i'm a really good arguer i'm really entertaining you should put me on your show
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and we've accepted those guys to come be on the show and they sit there and they don't say shit
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and they cower and they choke because it's one thing to be hold on let me finish it's one thing
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to be sitting behind your computer watching the stream like oh yeah i would say this when they say
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this and i'd be able to it's very different when you're live in person we got lights we got four
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cameras you're sitting across from people who disagree with you there's 3 000 people watching
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people talk a real big game but when they're when it comes down to being on the show a lot of people
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fucking choke both men and women you guys hear that men no i've brought on i've given so many guys
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chance like i the first time a guy choked i should have been like unless the guy has a proven track
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record of public speaking or content creation they cannot come on the show because almost with the
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exception of very few guys most of them choke would you say we've we've had on good guys we've had
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like chase is good adam 22 was good i'm trying to think 22 was good who else but i mean he's like a
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content creator you're good would you say that girls are like more i would outspoken or like you know
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like bring what girls are less logical are you saying that they bring more to the table to your podcast
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no girls are less logical they get better content no that depends we are wired you get better content
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off girls well true because they're more emotional it's not logical like men yes i've met some very
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emotional men and that recently went viral on tiktok i've had a 25 year old man crying no men have
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emotions they tend to suppress them because they come out pretty aggressively that's why we shut down and
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then you're like why aren't you speaking up because if we spoke up it would come out very angry men are
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more aggressive and angry when they express emotions i'm insane yeah but it doesn't but it doesn't come
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out in the form of anger it comes out mine has come out in the form of nobody comes out in the form of
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things like gaslighting gaslighting you think i guess that's not real no every single man gaslighting
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that's gaslighting literally what you just got gaslighting like like completely i've been gaslit
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on this own show i've been gaslit by brian you're a gaslighter okay okay so so so there is an actual
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okay i'm gonna actually teach a little bit of a lesson here okay do it all right there's a thing
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called the argument from intimidation do you know what that is that's when people that's when people
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will look at you and be like oh don't be ridiculous or no you couldn't possibly believe that
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this is what girls do all the time men do not do it nearly as much if you're dealing with a guy who
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does that kind of thing what he's doing is he's depending or he's relying on your own benevolence
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your own kindness to not rebut him okay this is what girls will do they'll look at a guy and
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because men have been told their entire lives you're toxic you're cruel you're aggressive basically
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men i love that basically basically men are told from the moment they're born get on your knees
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and beg for forgiveness you dirty dirty man that is what men are told from the moment the moment they
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are born so when we do something and a girl feels like they're being attacked when really we're just
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speaking our mind talking about our feelings you come back and you can't stand the fact that you
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might have pissed us off so you go i cannot believe that you would insinuate that you would do
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that's something that girls do so many girls do this okay this is not something guys guys are much
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more to the point you did something that bothered me can you please apologize for what you did
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that's what guys do girls just completely beat around the bush and they never ever apologize i've
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apologized i love apologize i'm always the first to apologize starting out fiery i've apologized before
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i know when i'm wrong i admit to my mistakes that's how you grow as a person would you like to
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apologize to me right now i feel deeply hurt by all the things what did i do to me and said to
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me throughout the years what i do what i do we'll get into it later just just on the whole thing with
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no guys really quick so what i would say also in addition to just us having experience of men
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absolutely choking on the show i would say most men have very oppressed excuse me suppressed opinions
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about the current social dating climate but they fear the shame and ridicule that would come
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if they chose hold on let me finish if they chose to voice those opinions publicly
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agreed valid so like oh fdg thank you very much for the 50 memberships also if i bring on one
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like blue-pilled guy the girls will just desperately latch on to whatever he says and use his opinion
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to invalidate what i say on the panel where i'm usually already like outnumbered so why not just like a
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neutral dude like one that's like neutral neutral i know some a neutral guy's gonna choke he's gonna
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say nothing i know i need a guy who's like really strong oh they're making good points on both sides
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what the hell is that i told you i know a few guys i would be like you should you say that you say that
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but i guarantee they show up it's their first time ever doing something like this and they're gonna
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eric on too they're gonna choke why don't you do zirka he's at least so red pill
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y'all are the same person we'll see um okay so anyways um also just men are on the losing side
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of the culture war so men can't really truly be honest with their thoughts it always gets met
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like when it comes to like dating preferences standards and boundaries those things always
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typically get shamed so he's a dating course so okay all right we see
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mike davis donated 100 i don't get what's so hard to believe this goofy try hard porno star found a
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low-t christian cyclist sim most christians especially those weirdo mormons are pretentious
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fakes what's hard to believe thank you this is mike davis he's a simp like thank you that's what i'm
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saying like you think that like there's so many of my fans that would let me cheat on them every day
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like what's different about this guy that's disgusting but there's literal like mormon porn
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too yeah there is there's amish porn you have a bunch of friends with benefits that's what you
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have but i love some of them again it's nothing but friends with benefits there's nothing but like
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there's zero commitment yeah how do you get fulfilled from this i am wired so differently because
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i have so many like trauma create no not i'm gonna take a guess crazy little things in my head and
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they just make me feel so love i'm gonna take a shot in the dark daddy issues yeah okay saw that
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coming from a mile away horse was there divorce there was so much multiple divorces yeah i mean
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but like you know what i feel loved how i feel loved if that's with too many dicks like so be it
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just because it's not like normal to you and like what you expect it's okay other people are happy
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doing different things we shouldn't shame it we should all love each other some people get
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filled with love i think we should shame things we were what's wrong with that shame back is that
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what you're saying bring shame back for sure like for example this is on a very low level but we shamed
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cigarettes for years it was disgusting if somebody smoked cigarettes we socially ostracized it and now
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nobody really smokes cigarettes we should do the same with what happened to the what happened to the
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word we should do the same things to sex workers because they're destroying society how is it
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hurting how is it destroying society can i like get a little i mean this is going to get deep do you
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want to go around and do the relationship yeah yeah yeah we can come back to that we can come back to
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it wait but let me say i i agree with you but at the end of the day they're still giving me money so
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i'm still going to do it but i mean that's true you know what i'm gonna it's never gonna go away
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i heard money runs the world money and sex yes that's money runs the world you know what else
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pays really well murder for i don't have sex at all and i still make there are things that are
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objectively immoral but i like that wrong you're making money off of sex though it's the end of
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the day it's an immoral way to make money guys one at a time one at a time please okay go ahead
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do you want to respond then we got to move on you then you go ahead my favorite thing is sex i love sex
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i love performing and it makes me so happy so when you it's like i'm not just doing it for money
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and sex i'm doing it for what makes me the happiest in the fucking world which is sex that's
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what makes you that i love what age should you find that out um i didn't lose my virginity to like
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17. and that's when you found that out i mean i feel like i found that out when i started porn
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i was doing only fans and i was like i fucking love her what else do you enjoy in life um i play video
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games okay go ahead are you guys religious no i'm gonna answer that very simply no okay are you
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religious i mean we believe in god we don't actively go to church but you guys like do you
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guys believe in like jesus and like all that yes we have a good relationship with god
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okay so did you answer your relationship status no i did not so wait uh just to go back to you
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really quick um you okay so there's the the you're married to a mormon bishop yes and he's hot and
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wait he's what he's he's hot the mormon guy they're all hot yeah do you still hook up with him or yeah
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not that much but yeah we do a lot of anal what oh this is i'm calling bullshit i'm calling
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bullshit on that whole you know that mormons can only do anal before marriage that's not i'm not
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a mormon but that's that's true that's true look it up right now look up on your phone like a lot
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look it up right now this is like the soaking thing no it's a trope yeah it's they're all real
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things but it's still six hours people's religion that's what they do it takes a while um okay and
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you're currently dating john zirka yes hold on just a second then to the offender donated 99.
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hold on hold on hold on i mean no disrespect but you look like you have resting p once face
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yeah when i'm talking about this stuff definitely he's got resting ryan ryan reynolds face and he's
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ledger yeah combined yeah i don't okay so you're dating john zirka um are you guys well you're not
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loyal right to him i'm honestly pretty loyal right now actually no you do porn no i haven't been shooting
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lately like for the past like since i've been with him been in for like a few weeks so you're on a good
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streak of loyalty a few weeks yeah setting a career high here when he goes to miami i'll probably go back
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and then we'll he'll come back and i'll get back with him right like you know okay yeah you guys will
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break up for a little bit and then you'll i'm gonna say break up like just do your thing i'm
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doing my thing come back be my right so like don't date and then go date other people and then come
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back publicity i like him and then having time to the other guys you like talking a lot of guys
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yeah i do right so in other words you don't have a boyfriend i have a few no you don't wait you have
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she's a husband she's a whole husband you have multiple guys i have multiple relationships how many
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are we talking here two well and then there's people i thought but for work or for usually for
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fun usually for work yeah like her uber driver over here no i think she drove you yeah she
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your personal assistant trophy wait okay hold on uh my tummy hurts thank you do you want a tom's or
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some shit no it's nick toss her tom's um okay just kidding i'm okay i don't need one okay so you have
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two boyfriends well you have one husband and a boyfriend who's john zirka yeah you want to meet
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him what now is he downstairs okay in my pocket so let's see do you have any other guys that you're
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seeing not related to work oh how am i supposed to like think like with your brain would be helpful
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there's a couple a couple like sometimes yeah like you know like whenever so i think so is zirka
00:23:33.580
only seeing you or does he have other women too i'm not fucking other people besides him right now
00:23:38.460
for right now but it's not going to be a long right now it's you're hold on so like in this hour
00:23:44.140
him yes for the time being yeah but you're going to continue seeing him but then you're going to
00:23:49.420
fuck other men no it's a little different because you can go back to miami soon and then i'm going to be
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like fucking whoever i want to fuck and when he comes back i'll probably be like isn't he in miami
00:23:59.100
he was he was just in florida what a two days ago no he was in miami is he in miami already you
00:24:05.420
don't even bro this chick's so full of shit okay do you want me to call him right now no he was on
00:24:09.900
the uh fnf podcast i mean i don't like suck his like every move every what i don't like suck his every
00:24:16.140
move that was a 40 i mean your your boyfriend is he your boyfriend yeah you don't know if your
00:24:24.620
boyfriend is unless he's in miami then no okay so he's not here so you're i assume you're going to
00:24:30.460
be with other there's this other little guy i'm fucking with but i don't i almost fucking guarantee
00:24:35.660
you like she i don't know if it was today or some other day she was on the phone with zirka hey john
00:24:41.660
i'm going to be on the whatever podcast how can i get the most attention while i'm on the whatever
00:24:46.060
podcast okay let me just say let me just say all this bullshit you want to say this is i can show
00:24:51.980
you clips of everything of this is all true like okay i don't know why you think like having a
00:24:56.460
relationship that's crazy in la is not weird it's just like you're it's a weird city it feels a little
00:25:01.740
pre-planned i mean maybe it's because i stream a lot and i'm used to talking but like that might be
00:25:06.220
the only reason you think that i have to say i do believe she has a husband thank you okay fine
00:25:12.620
i feel like it's such a weird story that you know and people say i can call up anyone right now and
00:25:16.780
be like tell like i have a husband i mean people think it's weird people think it's weird but they're
00:25:19.900
more like oh huh cool not like holy balls what do you mean it sounds like a south park episode but i
00:25:26.380
believe her thank you it's not like weird to believe like also taxes i'll just take your word for it
00:25:31.020
they help a lot so is john zirka just seeing you not if he's in miami he's being in miami wait
00:25:38.620
john zirka has a dating course yeah he does that's why y'all should go isn't he like he claims to
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be very christian he is he's he's catholic okay he's making a lot of money off of that dating course
00:25:51.660
and he has a dating course right the dating course teaches it's actually pretty good does it teach men
00:25:55.660
to manipulate women hold on does it it teaches men how to get women who are involved in sex work and
00:26:01.900
who do porn and won't be loyal to you no that sounds like he preaches that a lot of guys he preaches
00:26:06.540
that that's not really what he wants and he would rather that's what he has he'd rather have some
00:26:09.740
like third third world country like girl that's a virgin like why is he involved with you because
00:26:13.740
you want him to go to fucking some third world country and get a girl like he's here in la
00:26:17.260
there's plenty of girls in la that don't do porn good like you might as well have someone that's
00:26:21.340
fucking good like you know do you take pride in that yeah i do do you think men feel really good
00:26:27.500
about themselves when they fuck a girl like you i mean okay it's getting spicy i think i make them
00:26:32.780
feel so good that they're like all that pride just goes out the window no they like things that are
00:26:36.860
earned no i usually i don't even fuck guys the first night like i like try to like pretend i wait
00:26:42.140
like you know it makes them like i feel like feel more like oh she's so sweet and we wonder why the
00:26:47.740
sexual market value is so low why do you guys make sex so taboo i know it's not a taboo you guys
00:26:55.420
are making it it's not taboo we have sex okay we don't have anything against sex what we do have
00:27:00.380
something against is something where girls like you and you i have no idea how much porn you do i know
00:27:06.780
you have an only fans you do you think i do porn porn is so different than only fans
00:27:11.340
curtis reynolds donated two hundred dollars unfucking believable smfh three hundred and fours
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yo thank you curtis reynolds this this show is uh it's good it's pretty wild um go ahead do you guys
00:27:28.380
think that there's a problem with hookup culture yes okay yes uh do whatever you want yeah okay i still
00:27:34.540
want to answer the question that we haven't got faster well but um do i think there's a problem
00:27:38.860
with i don't know i guess that depends on what you're referring to do you think that do you think
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thank you thank you ftg for the gift whoever that is
00:27:50.140
who do you think is to blame for the existence of hookup culture men or women men it's it's a two
00:27:54.940
kind of thing i'm just against who controls who controls the access to sex women you open your legs
00:28:00.140
right so who's to blame the women men the women but the men also has the intention to do it so it's
00:28:05.820
it's a two-sided thing it's two lane road men are men are pursuing sex they're going to act in a way
00:28:11.260
they're going to act in accordance to achieve sex that is correct but we are all when girls like her
00:28:16.220
exist okay all that says is there are women out there who will just give it up for for nothing some
00:28:22.140
women can't escape yeah the mindset that we were all hardwired in that we should be
00:28:25.820
giving a lot and receiving a lot and be treated like this but it's up to the woman or the man
00:28:30.380
to break that mindset are you going to get like shit done for yourself or not like are you going
00:28:36.300
to be a yeah but not by not through sex work like yeah through giving up my pussy on camera exactly
00:28:41.740
like you don't have to find love like that you don't have to make your entire relationship around
00:28:45.740
sex but if some people choose to do so then they choose to do so and that's what that's what makes
00:28:50.060
them happy it really does and i'm not a sexual person at all and she knows that and yet
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like i'm not going to hate on her for that or like disagree with her because it's not really
00:29:00.060
something to disagree with it's just her life that's how she lives it and you got to get over
00:29:03.820
it buddy you don't like get over what over her during sex you don't be hurt about it don't be
00:29:08.620
hurt no no no no she's free to do it what i'm saying is then don't shame absolutely catastrophic
00:29:13.020
for society if that gets normalized but i feel like shame it in the privacy of your own home you said it
00:29:18.860
shouldn't be normalized it should not be normalized but it should not be shamed in a way of making
00:29:22.860
people feel bad why if it shouldn't be also voicing his opinion if it shouldn't be if it
00:29:26.220
shouldn't be normalized then why shouldn't we be shaming it then how do things get normalized i
00:29:30.300
don't think you should be doing this that's not shaming you could be like oh you doing all this is
00:29:34.940
disgusting i think it's ruining society or you can say i just don't think it's good for everybody
00:29:39.020
to do saying it's but i don't i think it's catastrophic for society sex work is the oldest
00:29:42.940
profession it's literally in the bible like it's the oldest profession sex work will always look
00:29:48.460
patriarchy straight in the eye what okay there's definitely older professions than sex work and
00:29:53.980
like it's one of the oldest and most demanding one of the most demanding the barrier to entry to
00:30:02.300
become a sex worker what is it huh be a woman open your legs that's what you need to do what do you want
00:30:09.180
me to do what do you want no you said it's one of the most demanding yeah it is it's demanding how is
00:30:13.980
how is it demanding okay everybody wants sex we some people can't get it no it's in demand it's not
00:30:19.740
a demanding person some people are in unhappy marriages so they go to like massage parlors
00:30:24.700
or to like they go places right they go get a hooker i know it's normal it happens it wouldn't call
00:30:31.420
that a marriage no yeah it's not and they shouldn't be in the marriage i think what i'm hearing from you
00:30:36.860
is that there's more female sex workers than there are male and that's why you're saying it's demanding
00:30:41.980
it's very hard for a man to get into sex work have you watched porn honestly that there's more
00:30:46.460
females in my life i have watched porn than there are males how does that like that it's more so it's
00:30:50.860
more demanding for females how did you make that concept what do you mean how did i make that i use
00:30:55.340
my brain how did you get her saying like there's more females oh i think that's what she's getting
00:30:58.780
at like it's demanding for females but how'd you get that i'll let you talk no i said sex is demanding
00:31:04.060
oh okay people look for sex okay what so what's your question for her hold on let her go
00:31:09.100
ahead it was sorry i don't remember your name on i eat um that there's more you can agree there's
00:31:15.180
more female sex workers than there are definitely oversaturated yes yes okay cool that's what i'm
00:31:21.020
clarifying you want her okay um did you you had a question for him then we have to keep things moving
00:31:26.620
um yeah so you said you've watched porn so it's obviously demanded somewhere in anyone's life it's
00:31:33.100
out there it's demanded she said it's demanding yes i mean sorry i meant demanded it's demanding
00:31:38.300
you when you watch it sorry i mean demanding and demanded you demanded it because i mean at the
00:31:42.700
time you were demanding it so uh well okay moving on okay uh bangs what's your relationship situation
00:31:50.700
single i've been single for two years now um i am not talking to anybody nobody i have my eye on
00:32:02.540
somebody but it's not really talking what do you explain that what do you mean i don't want to he
00:32:07.980
might see this what do you mean you have your eyes on somebody are you talking to him uh yeah occasionally
00:32:13.340
i do talk to him but i it's like more of a crush that i have and i haven't had a really i
00:32:17.020
haven't had a crush in a while so it's exciting no yeah i think they might have a crush on me too
00:32:22.540
they him sorry i say i wasn't sure if it was like non-binary no i say they a lot sorry okay uh
00:32:28.940
longest relationship uh a year one year okay what about you um i'm single uh i've been dated in about
00:32:38.140
two years like an actual relationship but i was also under the age of 18 at the time so i don't count
00:32:42.620
that so right because you're you're 18 yeah uh so you've been single for two years but come on
00:32:50.380
there's a guy there's a guy in the picture i was living with him and so yeah it was a two-year
00:32:54.860
relationship so but okay but that ended two years ago yeah it was bad you're living him with him
00:33:01.180
from 14 to 16 i graduated at 16 yes okay you weren't you weren't living with your parents no i was not
00:33:08.620
i was living with her actually okay um well so you've been single though for two years but
00:33:15.340
let's talk about right now there's no guy in the picture there is a guy in the picture is there more
00:33:19.660
than one in the picture no i do not do that one singular i don't play men like that it's not in my
00:33:25.180
heart to do that i mean people make money stop the cap things wait okay so hold on i i can like swear
00:33:32.460
by like i do not bring men over and i actually didn't end up bringing one over and like i'm not
00:33:40.060
going to play him after that that's my peace place like i'm not i don't ruin that peace place
00:33:43.980
like my house my our apartment is a peace place why would i like oh peace place okay i thought
00:33:47.980
you're talking the guy was a peace oh no he's really nice side piece or something oh never that
00:33:53.100
so you're seeing you're kind of sort of seeing one guy right right now yes how long have you
00:33:57.900
sort of been not sort of seeing him but seeing him um really not that long like a few weeks and
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that's about it a couple weeks yeah but i've known him for like a couple months i just don't fill my
00:34:11.980
void of loneliness with men fill it with food and money food and money that's it okay um do you want
00:34:19.900
a long-term thing with this one guy yeah definitely okay does he want the same or yeah okay but you're
00:34:25.900
single you said you're single yeah i don't i mean once you say you're dating like then i'm not
00:34:31.500
single talking really isn't so you could i have every right my grandma always told me never stay
00:34:37.660
with one man until you are dating the one person you want to be with you can talk to as many people
00:34:41.820
as you want until you find them erroneous you can but my grandma's a teacher at a christian private
00:34:47.820
school she was my teacher that's her wrong okay so you can but like do you think that leads to good
00:34:54.300
relationships if just before you let's say the day before you have the conversation with the guy
00:34:59.660
that you want to be in a relationship with you've another dude oh i don't them i'm not like active
00:35:04.620
like that i mean i can talk i can flirt to another man or like flirt with another man but i don't i
00:35:09.340
choose not to but if i feel as if this man is not worth my time i can see if there's another guy
00:35:14.300
i feel like you just keep your options open yeah you keep your options options open you don't want to
00:35:18.380
end like i don't ever want to end up in a relationship like i was i don't even know what
00:35:22.860
that means man you don't want to end up in a relationship like who was like i was two years
00:35:29.260
ago it was not something that i should have been in ever and so i didn't keep my options open and what
00:35:35.260
does it mean to keep your options open like you have like obviously if a bunch of people like you
00:35:40.860
you're gonna um not everyone is going to stay with all of them yeah i'm not gonna sleep with all of
00:35:47.020
them but if they text me i might text back you'll be hanging out with them no i don't hang out with
00:35:52.860
anybody at all except for like her and that one man like i don't leave the apartment i work from home
00:35:58.380
okay so there's not really any reason for me to hang out with men okay well perhaps that's the case
00:36:04.140
for you but there's definitely women who keep their options open i used to be like that hold on let me
00:36:08.540
finish and they're going on multiple dates a week with different people they're sleeping with
00:36:12.780
multiple men at the same time and then two months in they finally decide okay this is the guy i want
00:36:18.620
and the entire time they've been seeing that guy they're talking other dudes talking other dudes
00:36:23.100
i don't think it particularly leads to good healthy relationships well i'm personally scared of stds
00:36:28.860
if i ever contract one i may go ballistic that's awful but if other women want to do that and ruin their
00:36:35.580
mental health they can go right ahead but mental is everything for me and if i decide to let a man get or
00:36:42.140
because no one can make you feel any type of way you allow people to make you feel a type of way
00:36:47.100
so if i were to allow a man or a man to ever make me feel any less than what i've made myself
00:36:54.460
be then that's where i know i've like fucked up bad okay that's not how your life should be you
00:36:59.420
shouldn't revolve your life around someone else so you stay loyal to one man and you try to hold your
00:37:05.660
body for that one man for the sake of your mental health yeah and yet you're a personal assistant for
00:37:10.060
a porn star well i'm not fucking everyone she's working with i'm not going into a shoot
00:37:15.740
we do are you are you uh thinking you'll ever venture into that world no i don't yeah i will
00:37:22.540
not even allow a man onto my only fans do you do of though i do you do do of okay i do what kind of
00:37:28.300
what kind of content you do lingerie and bg any boy girl content no i do not have men on my
00:37:32.700
girl girl content no okay it's just all me i know you what about you are you bg girl girl solo
00:37:39.180
yeah just i just shoot whatever by myself okay uh what about you well now i don't feel as exciting
00:37:44.940
but i am in a three-year relationship and we're very healthy i feel like and happy
00:37:53.660
three-year relationship that's good you said you're 23 right i'm 23 yeah did you guys meet in
00:38:00.060
college or it was kind of like a weird situation because i was like i'm going to be single in
00:38:04.780
college like i'm not gonna do much and then i was like oh covet happened so i had to go back home and
00:38:11.500
i was like really bummed and then he lived in my hometown we went to high school together but we
00:38:15.260
didn't really like talk and he was like hey and i was like i'm not getting into a relationship and
00:38:20.380
he made quite the effort to like visit me when i came back to college and eventually moved here so
00:38:26.060
gotcha and while she was talking about this you kind of it seemed like you almost echoed a little
00:38:31.500
bit what she said of yeah keep your options open so before you got into your three-year relationship
00:38:36.300
with your now boyfriend were you keeping your options open during the early stages of when you
00:38:42.380
started dating him absolutely not like the second we started talking we both like didn't like entertain
00:38:48.860
anybody else so you know i'm not practicing what i preach but i do get like keeping your options open
00:38:54.300
as in like dating around like try something new like try this person try this person like see what
00:38:58.620
you like because i don't know i feel like that's your time your early 20s to like i'm talking about
00:39:03.660
like date around but once we started talking it was just like him in the picture that's awesome
00:39:09.340
like wrong person or like i'm right person wrong time kind of thing no wait what do you mean yeah
00:39:16.700
right but that's why we keep our options open because in case it's like okay this isn't going to work
00:39:20.700
right now yeah i wasn't keeping my options open like with him right because i was like okay yeah
00:39:25.740
like this is it you know but before him i was like okay maybe this is my type maybe this is my type i'll
00:39:31.420
go on this date even though i don't know if i'm gonna like this person you know just date and figure out
00:39:35.900
what you like okay all right um actually on that note so you said you you'll go on a date but you might not
00:39:47.100
be super set on the guy yeah like honestly even like my boyfriend now like i tell him too i was
00:39:53.420
like you honestly weren't my regular type and he ended up being like my soulmate in my eyes because
00:39:58.220
i was into like douchebags before him so it's like i would not have given him a chance but i was like
00:40:02.780
oh he's nice he's funny and then i was like oh shoot like i just took a chance on a good guy even
00:40:07.660
though that wasn't my type before you know what was your type um i'd say guys with like huge egos
00:40:16.540
yeah and he's a very like what's gonna follow humble person um wait okay huge egos yeah like
00:40:23.340
that's like that was my type before him like fuck boys huge egos like not good intentions and then
00:40:28.220
my boyfriend now is very like humble amazing question for you so and you say your boyfriend now he's
00:40:34.700
a good guy nice nice guy good guy like he's not like you know some people say oh he's a nice guy
00:40:40.700
and like it's kind of like a turn off like he's not that he's just genuinely a good person and he
00:40:45.100
has great intentions so question before you finally found your soulmate this guy who you say is a good
00:40:52.620
guy who you've been in a three-year relationship with how many of the jerks assholes and fuck boys
00:40:58.620
guys did you have to go through before you gave him a shot honestly i'd say quite a lot like in
00:41:06.300
that time span and that's why i kind of like nodded when um is it brandon i'm sorry dan sorry he was
00:41:14.700
like his hookup culture toxic and i like nodded immediately because it was toxic it was so bad for
00:41:19.580
my mental health the guys were terrible you know and it's refreshing not to have that anymore but why
00:41:25.500
do you think you were attracted to them i don't know i don't know i think part of it was like
00:41:30.940
validation like i think i was a lot more insecure and i was also young um i lost my virginity at 16.
00:41:36.860
so i was young i think i need a lot of validation and that's why i went for men like that at least
00:41:41.420
that's how i perceived it but aren't those the types of guys to not give validation exactly exactly
00:41:46.940
wait that doesn't make any sense though you said you need a lot of validation yeah i was looking for
00:41:51.020
validation by like sleeping with them and stuff i don't know okay okay um
00:41:58.620
you wanted them because a lot of girls wanted them you also wanted them because they weren't
00:42:03.020
nice probably they had they had authority they were hyper masculine and like i think about something
00:42:11.180
really really simple why is it that every single dude for the most part that gets girls today seems
00:42:17.900
to have a type fade and a tattoo because that's what hey with the tattoos because that's what
00:42:24.860
every girl goes for every single one remember when i said you're all the same you all want the exact
00:42:30.620
same thing you want a man of authority right men in uniform this is a big thing i'm sure you shoot
00:42:35.660
a lot of scenes with them and you get just a constant constant chase of this leader this masculine
00:42:44.140
guy who has a masculine frame who isn't chasing you all the time who you can't control who has
00:42:49.660
these like be like he's like a beast that you have to tame it's literally beauty and the beast that's
00:42:55.980
what women actually desire you don't want a nice guy you need someone who isn't going to give you
00:43:01.100
attention all the time because you need to long for them you need to miss them right like this guy you
00:43:05.100
said that he you knew him during your time in high school so we didn't like talk we were just i always
00:43:11.180
saw him like we went to the same elementary school even and we just did not like pay attention to each
00:43:14.940
other and then you said you were then you said that when you went off to school you were texting
00:43:18.380
for periods of time but then he would make the effort to come see you right so he texted me while
00:43:23.580
i was in school and i kind of like ignored it and then i went back home and he reached out again and
00:43:26.940
i was like i'll give this a shot and then i was like i can't do long distance like i don't i don't know
00:43:32.380
i like you but i can't get into a relationship and he came every single weekend and we live four hours
00:43:37.660
away to like make it a point to be there and make it work and so there was a pattern interruption
00:43:41.740
you had a week where you didn't see him and then a day or two where you had a great time then a week
00:43:46.700
where you didn't see him and then a day or two of having a great time it's this is the same exact
00:43:51.340
dopamine cycle as when you're like i wonder if they're going to text me or like there i actually
00:43:55.660
saw a great clip from a guy named andrew huberman i have no idea if you guys have seen his stuff before
00:43:59.900
there are actual cultures around the world where they have laws that basically tribal laws where you're not
00:44:05.420
allowed to touch your spouse for two weeks out of the month what that does is it creates excitement
00:44:09.900
it maintains attraction and they have extremely long-standing long-term relationships i will say
00:44:15.740
i could i didn't mean to interrupt you but i was gonna say i see how that works because like when
00:44:19.900
we first started dating we were like rabbits like literally having sex like rabbits and now even though
00:44:24.380
we live together for the first time it's like we don't have sex every night you know we pace that a
00:44:28.780
little bit and it does still like build that anticipation three years in wait is it you got a dead
00:44:33.500
bedroom is it the dead bedroom what dead bedroom that's like there's no sex no we don't do that
00:44:39.820
we just like skip a day you know what i mean we still we just pace it out not every day i can get
00:44:44.700
it still like builds excitement and anticipation just skipping a couple days even though i don't
00:44:48.620
want to hold on it too long because i know we got to keep it going but the whole point is the reason
00:44:52.380
why it worked out with him the reason why he's a genuinely good guy who you ended up falling in love with
00:44:57.580
is because he wasn't if you were just at home with him all the time given who your type was it
00:45:05.260
probably wouldn't have worked out but it was good to occasionally talk to him and then see him over
00:45:10.940
short stints that's actually the formula for being successful in the dating market this is why the
00:45:16.620
whole like wait a few days to text that's kind of shitty advice because it's there's actually an art
00:45:21.980
to doing this the right way these pattern interruptions to build attraction with people it doesn't just
00:45:26.140
happen but that's the reason why it worked that's the reason why you were able to escape your type
00:45:32.060
and i would say i honestly agree with that too because i liked the chase so you know it was a
00:45:36.940
healthy way of still getting that you guys are all the same
00:45:42.060
seven deadly simps donated 100 i am tired of seeing all these beautiful women on the whatever podcast
00:45:49.580
thanks for changing things up with tonight's show brian okay my sprinkler goes like this
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seven hundred and seventy seven decillion seven hundred and seventy seven no million seven hundred and
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seventy seven no thank you seven deli simps i appreciate it
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sep edillion seven hundred and seven hundred and seventy seven six hundred seven seventeen
00:46:30.060
all right thank you thank you uh you you said that prior to your current boyfriend there was
00:46:35.020
Quite a few fuckboys, jerks, whatever, assholes, whatever.
00:46:49.680
And like too much like for, I don't know, too much.
00:46:53.340
Like when I look at myself then, I'm like, why?
00:46:56.220
Like I'm like little Katie, like you need to stop like enough to where I'm like, you
00:47:00.440
didn't have to do that, you know, but not like a shit ton.
00:47:05.540
But I started dating Jared my first year of college.
00:47:08.820
So like I've been in a relationship most of my college career.
00:47:12.440
You know how you talked about you believe in keeping your options open?
00:47:16.420
If you're thinking back on that being like, oh, why?
00:47:19.720
Why are you encouraging girls to keep their options open the same way you did?
00:47:22.360
Well, when I say keep options open, I mean like going on dates, like very like wholesome
00:47:27.020
Like go on a date with this guy, even if you don't know, you know, like see what you like.
00:47:30.860
I don't mean like, sorry, I don't know if I can say that.
00:47:33.880
I don't mean like have sex with everybody I meet.
00:47:42.200
Just like figuring out what kind of personality you like, what kind of person you like.
00:47:45.240
And that's kind of why men are afraid to now like pay on dates or even take girls on dates
00:47:52.960
I don't know why they feel obligated to pay though because...
00:47:56.020
Because you guys would be repulsed if they didn't pay.
00:48:02.900
Like I don't necessarily 100% agree with like the dating around, but like getting to know
00:48:06.900
people, figuring out what you like, what kind of personality do you like?
00:48:12.420
Like does that all like come into play for you guys when you're going to be the cross?
00:48:16.920
I mean, I would say don't expect a nice dinner.
00:48:25.700
Even like with the few guys I've been interested with, I've never been like, oh, like let's
00:48:29.640
go out to eat because I get so shy to like eat in front of a guy, even though I know I
00:48:36.160
And I personally wouldn't even be comfortable with that if someone wanted to like spend a
00:48:38.940
bunch of money on me and I'm like, this is our first date.
00:48:46.220
Like I'd rather like sit down with them or like even in a car, just like talk to them, hang
00:48:54.700
I feel as if when they pay big amounts on the first date, it makes me feel obligated
00:49:00.720
Like, especially with like family having like issues in the past with that happening, like
00:49:05.200
people, Indian giving saying, oh, well, I got you this though.
00:49:13.760
Well, yeah, that's weird if a guy has an expectation because he paid for a date that
00:49:19.060
Like they expect that woman to stay because they have money.
00:49:21.820
Money does not mean anything if you do not have a good personality or mental health
00:49:26.340
Actually, all the more reason that women should pay for the date, but so that the guy doesn't
00:49:31.800
Although, look, it's, I think it is probably best practice, generally speaking, as a man.
00:49:35.980
Me personally, I have some qualms with paying for the first date.
00:49:38.540
But generally speaking, across the board, I do think recommended the guy should pay because
00:49:43.300
you're going to, there's definitely women you're going to lose if you don't pay for
00:49:46.980
You should be going on fewer dates and spending as little money as possible if you're a man.
00:49:56.160
Most first dates that I've been on, I don't spend a dime because I go, I'm going to go,
00:50:10.940
Yeah, I've done that, but I wouldn't be like, oh, let's go walk my dog.
00:50:13.080
I'd be like, I'd rather stay home, to be honest.
00:50:15.560
If it was like, oh, let's go walk down the park.
00:50:22.160
I feel as if y'all are a very healthy, strong couple due to that mindset because that is
00:50:27.480
Not spending as much money as you can and enjoying things that are free in life.
00:50:35.500
Do something rather than going shopping or like, what is that?
00:50:40.940
I do have to move things along, but one thing about what you said.
00:50:44.940
You said, well, like, I'll go on a date, but I'm not really sure about the guy.
00:50:48.920
I think this is an interesting difference between men and women, but maybe really quick,
00:50:54.520
just a yes or no from all the girls here at the table.
00:50:56.340
So, have you ever gone on a date with a guy without knowing ahead of time if you wanted
00:51:15.260
So, have you ever gone on a date with a guy where you weren't quite sure on him yet?
00:51:19.860
That you wanted to, in terms of, you haven't yet decided if you want to sleep with him
00:51:34.400
It's not like you're going on the date and you're like, I know I'm going to like this.
00:51:41.160
I don't like sleep with people on the first date.
00:51:45.560
I think it's assuming that we sleep with people.
00:51:47.000
Have you ever gone on a date with a guy who visually and upon immediate interaction, you
00:51:59.000
You're asking me if I've ever felt that way, if I'd be like.
00:52:01.300
In other words, is he currently in a position to succeed or a position to fail?
00:52:06.640
Like, is he having to now earn your, does he have to prove and earn your attraction?
00:52:14.960
Like, have you gone on dates with guys who you aren't already attracted to?
00:52:33.780
Because every guy who goes on a date, he's only going on a date with a girl who he is already
00:52:43.520
So now I'm going to see, like, basically it's yours to lose at this point.
00:52:50.080
She's gorgeous and she seems pretty cool up front.
00:52:55.340
Brian's point is that women are looking for a reason to say no.
00:52:59.920
So are you saying, like, women are the deciders?
00:53:03.380
No, what I'm saying, do you ever hear a guy say, oh my God, like, there's these things
00:53:10.040
Yeah, because guys are looking at the situation going, yeah, she does all these things that
00:53:16.140
really piss me off, but she's really beautiful and she's kind of fun to talk to.
00:53:26.580
But, and they'll convince themselves not to sleep with a guy.
00:53:29.420
Yeah, actually, I've been doing that with my friend.
00:53:32.040
I'm like, you got to humble the guy, sorry, you got to humble him first.
00:53:35.580
You can't go, you can't put him on the head so long.
00:53:38.060
I was coming from where I'm like, you need to, like, I want to know that you're worthy
00:53:42.900
Like, prove it as in, like, a way, like, I want to make sure I'm into you.
00:53:47.940
And I'm not disagreeing with that, but I'm saying, like, not in a sense where I'm, like,
00:53:51.120
very, like, feminist view on it, but I do want a guy to prove that, you know,
00:53:56.540
he's worthy of being with me and that I'm worthy of being with him.
00:54:01.120
This also goes to the point that men and women are fundamentally attracted to different things.
00:54:09.540
For you guys, you're like, he seems kind of cute, but I wonder if he also makes good money,
00:54:14.580
also makes me laugh, also seems to be really intelligent, also has a lot of ambition,
00:54:26.000
Women are selecting on so many more things than men are up front.
00:54:32.880
We're auditioning first, you're auditioning second.
00:54:38.120
Are you going to be with someone that you don't even want to be with?
00:54:40.100
We can talk about superficiality when it comes to looks a little bit.
00:54:43.500
But so what is superficial about it, that men are attracted?
00:54:58.020
Everybody has an opportunity to answer on this, and we will come back to the relationship
00:55:09.720
Yeah, I wouldn't say most of them, but the guys that do think that way are superficial,
00:55:14.420
and I haven't really met a lot of guys like that.
00:55:17.040
Thank God that I haven't, because then they'd be superficial.
00:55:20.260
Well, this is precisely what we were talking about earlier, how men are not able to speak
00:55:30.940
Do you all not see how demented and screwed up these women are?
00:55:38.700
Just what these degenerates want, but I want no part of STDs.
00:55:42.520
I'll hire any one of you hobos that commits to coming overseas.
00:55:53.420
Do you think men are superficial, generally speaking?
00:55:57.060
To be honest, it's, again, it's a two-lane road.
00:56:01.080
You are literally not going to sleep with someone or be with someone that you are not
00:56:05.860
No absolute way that you are going to marry that person.
00:56:09.660
Like, this is kind of, like, a very easy question.
00:56:13.060
It's not, like, no one should be offended by it, either.
00:56:18.480
You're not going to be with a man that you don't find attractive.
00:56:24.100
I guess the only thing I have to add is I've never thought about, like, money and status
00:56:27.960
and job until I've, like, I was also, like, dating really young.
00:56:31.140
But until I was, like, I want to marry this person.
00:56:33.840
That's, like, when my current boyfriend, I was, like, oh, I have to start thinking about
00:56:38.960
Like, that's when I thought about all, like, deeper stuff.
00:56:42.960
Like, I mean, so, money, status, these sort of things can be related to superficiality.
00:56:49.840
But I was trying, I was more so trying to approach it from just purely physical things.
00:57:08.000
Do you think, I'm going to come back around starting with you.
00:57:17.420
Now that I understand the question, I'd say both.
00:57:21.680
So, look, this originally stemmed from you saying, because he was saying men care about
00:57:25.860
women's physical appearance, you're like, that's so superficial.
00:57:29.500
But, okay, would you date a guy who's shorter than you?
00:57:43.300
If I were to date a guy younger than that, I'm going to get clowned on, okay?
00:57:50.380
Nobody's going to clown on you for dating a taller guy.
00:57:53.820
Wait, you say taller than you or shorter than you?
00:57:58.300
Yeah, shorter than 6'2", I'm going to get clowned on.
00:58:01.460
You're going to get clowned on if you date a guy shorter than 6'2".
00:58:10.900
Not that I care about my ex, but I'm like, always got to do bigger, better, more money,
00:58:16.500
So this imaginary group of people is going to be clowning on you because your ex, who
00:58:25.420
Taller and more money was what she talked about.
00:58:28.000
And you called me superficial for meeting a beautiful girl.
00:58:33.900
Well, some women want a man to inspire them physically and mentally, like, have more money,
00:58:43.380
They work towards that so they can stay with this man on his level.
00:58:54.500
There's just a biological basis for that, but you cannot sit there...
00:58:58.240
You cannot sit there and say men are superficial for liking physically attractive women when
00:59:06.500
one of the markers that women look for in men is height, which is something that men
00:59:39.920
Sometimes like your pelvic bone can't handle a lot, you know?
00:59:45.240
Like, I also have endometriosis, so it doesn't matter.
00:59:50.960
Yeah, I had to see a specialist because my reproductive was a little messed up.
01:00:09.380
My longest relationship, I think, was like four-ish years.
01:00:20.000
How long have you been in this current relationship?
01:00:29.200
My longest relationship was like five to six years, I'd say, somewhere in between there.
01:00:34.100
And what were the other questions I was supposed to answer?
01:00:41.260
And the five to six year relationship, is that the one that just ended?
01:00:49.280
My last relationship that I just got out of was two and a half years.
01:01:07.080
I was actually checked out of that relationship like a year.
01:01:20.640
Like, we both looked at each other and it was like...
01:01:23.440
I was loyal to the point where I was like, I don't want to give up.
01:01:27.940
And he was like, you know, like, it's hard for me to leave you.
01:01:34.260
It was hard because, like, both of our families are very intertwined.
01:01:51.660
Just like, I had a good relationship with his family.
01:02:08.420
It was genuinely the first mutual breakup I've ever had in my life.
01:02:24.560
It was kind of a logistical breakup after the first two months.
01:02:49.820
Didn't think that would be the hairstyle change.
01:02:58.240
Oh, Mike Davis is about to come in here really quick.
01:03:04.760
Mount whatever is said Bangs is back and blonde.
01:03:07.800
Didn't think that would be the hairstyle change.
01:03:16.100
I'm headed out, but Mexico should be lucky if a face transplant recipient would want her busted
01:03:22.860
And give the attention-seeking narcissist wannabe porno star some more airtime.
01:03:53.940
Do you want me to link you up with Mike Davis if it doesn't work?
01:04:15.860
Yeah, Mike Davis, you just donated $100 and you're working at a fucking Burger King.
01:04:20.480
He's the proprietor of hundreds of Burger King.
01:04:30.400
It blows my mind how people's minds can be so warped.
01:04:36.260
Your lifestyles are so ass-backwards, it's insane, bro.
01:04:44.080
Please tear the three on the right apart this whole episode.
01:05:16.320
You don't want to get an engineering degree, go work for like Google or something like that?
01:05:19.840
I love making people happy and asking how their days.
01:05:22.040
What about being like a carpenter or like working with your hands?
01:05:29.060
What about going to like work like the sewers or something like that?
01:05:36.460
What about being like a teacher or something like that?
01:05:37.940
Oh yeah, I would definitely be a teacher or something like that.
01:05:40.380
I would love to, like a psychiatrist or a therapist.
01:05:44.840
But I just need money to get up to it because, again, my dad is awful.
01:06:06.600
What's the cheap plastic crap you're riding with?
01:06:27.740
So thank you, Alex, for sending us those free pens.
01:06:31.200
Everybody here, like, first time using them, they signed the releases, so appreciate it.
01:06:39.380
Hey, Brian, just wanted to let you know after watching two viral clips from two separate
01:06:42.960
episodes and then watching the full episodes both clips came from, this is officially one
01:06:59.520
Um, but, uh, episode one's kind of, eh, but it gets better.
01:07:16.480
We will check back in on those, uh, in a little bit.
01:07:19.380
Okay, so you guys were so kind to provide some pre-show notes to us, so I'm gonna ask you
01:07:24.580
We got, uh, let me see, uh, so you do adult content, traditional content.
01:07:39.640
And are these with, is there, like, it's a new guy every scene, or is it, like, you
01:07:52.100
Sometimes I do a boy-girl-girl if it's, like, a girl I know, and, like, she's, like, my friend.
01:08:10.220
And before that, were you doing OF, or it started about the same time?
01:08:13.640
I was in nursing school, and I was doing OF in my senior year of college, because it
01:08:17.640
was, like, I couldn't be a CNA anymore, because it was, like, long shifts, and, like, nursing
01:08:23.160
So I started OnlyFans, and then I liked it, and then I graduated, and I was, like, being
01:08:26.540
a nurse, and I was, like, this is so 30-year-old woman.
01:08:29.780
I was, like, I'm going to go do porn, you know?
01:08:35.520
It was just, like, yeah, it was, like, hard hours, and it's something I would love to do when
01:08:39.580
I'm, like, married with, like, seven kids in, like, Utah at 30, but, like...
01:08:47.460
She still doesn't have seven kids, and she's not living in Utah.
01:08:52.960
But, like, right now I'm, like, 20, and, like, I have such a lovely time performing that it's,
01:08:59.200
like, sometimes I think I was, like, destined to do porn.
01:09:07.220
You said your relationship is complicated, but it's a three-year relationship.
01:09:29.060
May, June, July, August, September, four months.
01:09:41.060
Because remember, I was messaging you about Allison.
01:09:55.040
Not being in a relationship, or what is the context that we used it in?
01:09:58.720
I mean, I could pull up the messages here to confirm what was...
01:10:14.000
What was the question you asked when we said...
01:10:16.360
It was, are you in a relationship, or are you in a situation-ship?
01:10:24.580
She is in a relationship that is complicated...
01:10:27.920
...based on views of what they both want for their future.
01:10:33.700
The only thing that's complicated about that is I'm from California, Central Coast.
01:10:39.700
I moved to New Jersey to be with him because I really want to see if this works out, but
01:10:45.320
I know in my gut that I don't want to be in New Jersey forever.
01:10:49.120
So, she's struggling to be like, I want to be with this person, but I don't want to
01:11:01.020
But the relationship itself, I mean, it's very new.
01:11:03.820
Love it so far, except I don't want to be in New Jersey forever, the long term.
01:11:08.280
So, you're just visiting California right now, but you currently live in Jersey?
01:11:19.920
Wait, so he asked you to move to Jersey, but you don't live together?
01:11:29.340
They started talking, were interested in one another, and then she had moved back.
01:11:34.660
Based on what was that, like a break, like a Christmas, not break.
01:11:42.440
I stuck around for a while because I was like, what am I doing with my life?
01:11:46.520
Missed him a ton and said I wanted to make this work, so I decided to move back to New Jersey.
01:11:59.440
And we were still keeping contact, but it wasn't like an everyday thing.
01:12:03.380
We were not texting every day, every few weeks.
01:12:06.220
And then, yeah, I missed him and wanted to move back.
01:12:30.420
No, I don't live in a desirable place in New Jersey.
01:12:42.500
Does he know that you don't want to be in Jersey?
01:12:49.480
He does not want to stay in New Jersey forever either,
01:12:53.380
but he just scored this job, and he wants to see how it plays out.
01:12:57.640
He had a commitment to this job, and he has the commitment to this job.
01:13:03.820
she wasn't sure if she was going to want to live there or not.
01:13:06.180
She now has decided, like, I don't want to be here forever,
01:13:26.020
where you love him so much that you will stay there?
01:13:44.880
Like, nothing could ever convince me to leave New Jersey.
01:14:01.080
I want to make just a really quick point about this.
01:14:25.100
I just actually don't want to give whatever the platform to do that.
01:14:29.940
How long did it take for you to feel like that?
01:14:31.600
Like, what was when you were like, shit, the day that you woke up,
01:14:33.860
and you're like, I want to be with him, I'll do whatever?
01:14:35.320
So when we got back together, he was living in Florida at that point,
01:14:38.660
so the only way to see him once we started talking again was to go to Florida.
01:14:42.360
So I would buy, like, the first time I went, I bought a ticket for, like, three days,
01:14:48.340
and then I went a couple more times for, like, maybe a week,
01:14:51.660
and then by the third time I was going, I was buying one-way tickets
01:14:55.820
and only coming back when I had, like, a doctor's appointment,
01:15:00.920
And, again, just to make the point about sort of the dynamics,
01:15:04.640
I was commenting earlier when you were talking about the dynamics between men and women
01:15:08.080
and what makes a good, healthy, attractive relationship, especially early on.
01:15:16.040
Girl directly opposite of Brian gives off Grand Canyon energy,
01:15:40.680
What I was going to say was there's something to be said.
01:15:45.580
Have you heard, if you've listened to anybody talk in what's considered the red pill space,
01:15:50.800
you've heard them talk about how it's more important that the girl adores the guy more than the reverse.
01:15:57.760
And the reason for that is because there has to be, basically, women are working from a deficit.
01:16:05.700
I'm leaning towards, like, conservative Republican.
01:16:08.920
No, it's mostly, like, the truth about the dynamics between men and women.
01:16:19.740
There's all these different guys who are sort of, like, linked to it.
01:16:23.340
But it's very, very important that the man is the one holding the frame that the woman wants to step into.
01:16:32.980
Because, again, there's a deficit that men are working from.
01:16:37.060
Men will love girls very, very idealistically because they're very few and far between for men.
01:16:42.700
Women have so many options that they're not always champing at the bit to just step in and commit to one of them.
01:16:49.440
So women need to adore the man because they're more likely to remain loyal and stick around.
01:17:00.000
And a man who is set in his ways, set in his principles, knows what he wants out of life, she will actually be attracted and likely to step into that frame to experience that frame with him.
01:17:10.300
They don't like when it's the other way around.
01:17:15.360
When a girl is the one making all the decisions, doing all the moving around, like, she's the one who, like, wants to work, wants to move, do this, and the guy is just following, like, a puppy dog.
01:17:39.920
It's very draining for the girl to be the one who is way more above the man, especially, I will never.
01:17:50.600
A lot of my clients, one of the biggest things that they struggle with is how to actually act on a first date.
01:17:57.380
They go into dates so nervous and they have all these things in the back of their head, like, oh, I don't want to talk too much.
01:18:06.680
I don't want to, like, make her feel too uncomfortable.
01:18:08.240
Like, this is what's going through most guys' heads.
01:18:10.860
And I have to tell them, you're the one who needs to make the conversation interesting.
01:18:20.620
They want you to maybe say something offensive that they're either going to, like, jump back.
01:18:34.700
No, what I'm saying is you have to say things that could potentially be taken the wrong way
01:18:38.880
so that you can then be like, I'm just kidding.
01:18:43.760
And then you have to be the one who's willing to break the touch barrier.
01:18:54.280
Men are the ones who always have to take the lead early in a relationship.
01:19:05.360
The moment that I pass that test, guess what you start doing?
01:19:09.360
Hey, do you mind if I'm just going to clean up the dishes real quick?
01:19:12.980
You start making the bed when I get out of bed to do the shower.
01:19:17.900
And I don't mean to be like, I put you in your place.
01:19:19.480
I mean, women will just naturally start to submit.
01:19:24.560
I think that's exactly how relationships are designed to be.
01:19:31.060
It comes even to like biological because it's this profession.
01:19:39.760
No, I genuinely think you are a very intelligent man.
01:19:42.200
So that's like, you're making very good points.
01:19:44.040
I just wanted to know where you got all this information from.
01:19:48.800
I was in one relationship for four years of my early 20s.
01:20:00.860
I'm like, I've been on a million first dates, very few second dates.
01:20:03.540
I have, like the way that I operate in the dating space is I'm so good at passing those early tests and establishing what you guys would consider a good vibe with a girl, right?
01:20:15.840
That they basically just get to the point where it's like, oh, okay, like now I want to spend more time with him.
01:20:21.520
So I'm the one who has seen girls go through the process of I'm not so sure to I'm obsessed.
01:20:27.720
Like it's happened time and time again where girls are just, they're champing at the bit to see me.
01:20:39.280
And once you've been, I'm not saying been around the block in terms of sleeping with girls.
01:20:43.500
I'm saying once you've been around the block in terms of watching the change in emotion and the change of behavior in women, you just start to take note of it.
01:20:54.520
So all of a sudden guys are coming to me, my friends, guys on my network saying, asking me really silly questions about dating.
01:21:00.800
And I'm like, how the fuck do you not know this?
01:21:02.380
Then that's when I started to realize, oh, I just know more about this than they do.
01:21:06.900
I'm able to reverse engineer it and make it repeatable.
01:21:09.440
I have a very repeatable process to being successful early in the dating stage with women.
01:21:15.000
And at that point, one of my buddies just said, dude, you got to stop giving the advice away for free.
01:21:18.500
So I've been kind of, I was sort of an on the side dating coach for a number of years.
01:21:22.600
Now for probably about 12 to 18 months, I've been doing it full time.
01:21:24.700
Yeah, you're one of like, what about the girl boss women though?
01:21:28.060
Like I'm not necessarily being one, I'm not one of them, but that are very like naturally dominant, like run a business, have a net worth, whatever it might be that makes them more established.
01:21:38.820
Or on top, would you say that you still think that?
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The problem is your dating pool is very small because you're only going to date guys who can out masculine you.
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With, with those, with those like top one percenters.
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I just mean the guys who are, have a greater degree of masculine dominant energy than you do.
01:22:05.980
Finances could be a part of it, but I think money is a byproduct of a lot of masculine traits.
01:22:11.220
I would say I'm a little bit more dominant and I want to be the breadwinner.
01:22:15.140
Like I would, he can like try to make more money with me, but that's my goal.
01:22:18.500
Like I want to be that girl, but I still want a man who can lead.
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That doesn't mean he needs to be like the opposite.
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I want us to be like, I want us to both exist in that space.
01:22:29.140
But don't you think, don't you think that if you're the breadwinner, it's going to be harder for you to find a guy to fall into the leadership position?
01:22:41.060
I don't know exactly like exactly how our dynamic worked out, but I just worked out where like he lets me shine, but he's, he's like okay with me taking dominance where I want to take dominance.
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But he's also like, like masculine and complete.
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They never want it in the bedroom, but they don't want to submit in real life.
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I don't, I don't, I don't mind being like submissive anyway.
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Or like, hold on, let's finish with this thread.
01:23:18.340
I think the difference is like, I went to school for four years and I want my master's degree and stuff and he kind of knows what he wants to do and he's, but he can do that anywhere.
01:23:26.820
So he's like, hey, if you want to go to this school, your dream school, I will go with you because I can do what I do wherever.
01:23:35.400
So it's not like he can chase me, but just in that aspect, like he's okay with following me.
01:23:40.960
I mean, that's a very logical decision on this part.
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I consider that as like, I'm making a big decision for us.
01:23:48.600
So what do we, what kind of line of work do you want to go into?
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I'm thinking of it, but I also work like, that's what I do on the side right now.
01:24:01.540
And then I'm going to marketing, but I wish I, I want a business degree at some point.
01:24:12.300
And your master's would be a business degree or that would be a separate degree than from your master's?
01:24:21.480
Probably in something like marketing management or something.
01:24:32.340
Let's say you're working and you're in a master's program, hypothetically speaking.
01:24:35.960
And your boyfriend is doing exactly the same thing that he's currently doing.
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All of a sudden, you are working, you know, similar hours.
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There are going to be some times where you have to work a little bit overtime.
01:24:53.300
There's going to be times where late at night you're having to do homework, do a lot of reading.
01:24:57.140
And you're looking and all of a sudden he's the one who needs to keep the place tidy.
01:25:04.480
He's the one who is, he's the one who's chauffeuring you around.
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He's the one taking time out of his busy schedule to support you.
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I wouldn't view him negatively, but I would also never ask all of that stuff for him because I make sure I have enough time to do a lot of stuff as well.
01:25:19.740
But what happens when all of a sudden the apartment is a little bit untidy?
01:25:24.380
What if you guys aren't having dinner at a nice time?
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Are you going to look at him and be like, hey, I could use your help cooking.
01:25:30.900
I've never had to really ask, but he's never been in the position where he has to, like, catch up.
01:25:36.620
Like, I was doing a thesis program as an undergrad.
01:25:38.460
Like, it was like that where I'm like, I don't even have time to eat, and I'd never had to be like, hey, could you please cook dinner for once?
01:25:44.680
It was just, he was like, here, like, here's food.
01:25:58.120
Well, I mean, like, if Billy's working hard, and you know she had a hard day, and you're going to cook her dinner, right?
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And you're going to be like, out of an act of love.
01:26:15.760
He was talking, and he was like, oh, like, if a guy.
01:26:18.680
Oh, yeah, if it's expected that a male is going to, like, cook, clean, do all those things.
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Even though you were really busy, and it was, like, taking a toll on you mentally.
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Yeah, yeah, I can juggle all of those balls at once.
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Yeah, and I would also never ask him to do all that because he also has his goals, and
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I don't think it would get to a place where I'm like, hey, you're doing all the housework,
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and I'm doing, like, he is still doing his own thing.
01:26:48.160
If they're willing to actually put in the work, I think that's great.
01:26:50.480
The guy I'm with now is, like, I don't have to ask him to get me food.
01:26:52.880
He literally just is like, okay, I'm going to get you food.
01:26:55.180
He knows I don't want to order because I have anxiety, so he orders for me, and I'm not a piggy eater.
01:26:59.040
So, like, it's all a part is, do you want to accept the help or not?
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Are you the, do you wear, I have the, one of the worst mental health, but I'm not going to let that dominate my entire life.
01:27:21.040
But he can see that I juggle so much with being so young, being a personal assistant, dropping my entire family behind, and he's just like, oh, you look very, like, stressed.
01:27:31.500
So does being her personal assistant stress you out?
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Is that, is that, is that the, like, sole purpose of the stress and anxiety, or is it?
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But not until I'm, like, well-established and I'm at a good point in my career.
01:28:02.720
I've always wanted one, but he was an only child, so I think we're going to it when we do.
01:28:10.600
I mean, we do, just because I know I'm going to marry him.
01:28:16.900
Okay, but you have to talk about those things to make sure.
01:28:22.660
When you're pregnant, do you want to be still in the breadwinner role, even throughout your pregnancy?
01:28:34.640
I've thought about that a little bit, and, like, I don't know exactly how I'll be feeling at the time,
01:28:39.020
but I hope I have, we both have enough saved, or I can stay at home, he can keep working.
01:28:46.020
I don't think I would keep working through my pregnancy and when I have my first kid.
01:28:50.860
I'd get back into my work, though, but I do want that, like, family time, is how I imagine it.
01:28:55.500
I think we'll allow it as long as you don't complain about the wage gap when you come back.
01:29:03.380
Here, let me get a couple chats, and then we'll come back.
01:29:28.060
He, like, is obsessed with, like, figuring out my personal information.
01:29:38.620
You being so light gives me self-confidence about only being 135 pounds.
01:29:44.120
Thank you for existing, and I wish you happiness going forward.
01:29:51.480
Like, I've been told, like, have you eaten stuff?
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but first ask her if she would ever be loyal to a guy
01:30:42.700
Souped up ghetto ass car was an early Billy Ray brand.
01:30:48.500
Yeah, it was like videos I used to make about cars.
01:31:13.760
She's fucking John Zerka while married to a Mormon bishop
02:17:11.260
So, typically, what I see with men, and how old is he roughly?
02:17:26.320
So, I'm guessing this man probably had a family at some point in his life.
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I don't know if they're still together, but if you're scared to speak on it, I'm going
02:17:36.920
Okay, so there was a relationship at some point in his life, and the fact that he is
02:17:43.220
giving you money to kind of listen to him talk about things that he's passionate about
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leads me to believe that the woman in his life was not interested in hearing him out
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So, he's willing to give money just to have somebody listen to him, and that's a common
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theme I see amongst a lot of men, and it's really sad.
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Do I play the victim role, or am I like, I'm...
02:18:09.840
No, you're actually extremely privileged, but...
02:18:13.080
And so, my thought, and I didn't want to comment until everybody answered on this, but...
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This is exactly how women have dating on easy mode.
02:18:27.160
You guys have dating, and frankly, life on easy mode.
02:18:32.340
You guys don't have to sleep with any of these men, and they're throwing thousands of dollars
02:18:41.660
Now, there are sugar mamas out there, but it's exceedingly rare.
02:18:47.820
And I doubt that they are supporting their sugar babies to the same degree as how a lot of men
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I almost feel like sugar mamas probably do it in almost a begrudging way.
02:19:08.300
In any case, y'all have dating and, honestly, life on easy mode, because I think it's just
02:19:30.820
I was going to say, I just don't see it really for dating, to be honest.
02:19:35.200
Like, are you saying, like, we can get any guy we want?
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Yeah, you saying that we have life and dating on easy mode, we really do.
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Yeah, y'all kind of got that shit on easy mode.
02:20:12.520
Yeah, like, elaborate a little bit more on the dating.
02:20:21.780
I'm sure all of you have had a situation where you've had a group project, right?
02:20:26.240
Remember, like, group projects in high school or group projects in college?
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Now, I don't know where you fell in that group dynamic, but typically in those scenarios,
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There's going to be at least one person that doesn't do jack shit in the group project.
02:20:47.440
That's kind of like how dating is between men and women.
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Y'all don't do jack shit at the beginning, right?
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I think later on, you guys start doing a little more.
02:21:05.020
There's a term in video games called carrying, where one person sucks at the video game.
02:21:12.260
You're like, you're carrying them to the victory.
02:21:14.200
I think that's kind of how dating is typically, because men, we have to...
02:21:33.260
The thing with Bumble, though, the thing with Bumble, it's a very token level of initiative,
02:21:37.240
because the women will send the first message, and typically, it's not very creative.
02:21:45.960
Like, Bumble is such a joke, because the girl says hey, and then they immediately shift
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the conversational duty and burden onto the man.
02:22:03.260
Even though she has to send the first message, it's...
02:22:12.900
This is her point, so I want to let her finish this.
02:22:16.540
And then, when it comes to moving things forward, the guy's gonna have to close the physical
02:22:23.740
He's gonna have to move things forward sexually.
02:22:40.800
But he's gonna have to initiate on all those steps.
02:22:45.580
With my first boyfriend, I made the move on him.
02:22:49.460
I kissed him because he was a little bit of a weenie.
02:23:00.060
Hold on, let me just finish really quick on this point.
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when, like, obviously the girl's gonna encounter a guy
02:23:10.940
high school relationships, or maybe, like, college...
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Like, first encounter with dating, sex, relationships.
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And now the man has to come up with something else.
02:24:12.180
Because you have a million other options waiting for you
02:24:22.040
He's still thinking about what's next in the conversation.
02:24:24.500
He's not icked out by the fact that you just said hey back.
02:24:49.880
the leverage that women have early on is insane.
02:25:26.500
women have far greater sexual optionality than men do.
02:25:35.300
and she has the equivalent sexual optionality of an A-list celebrity.
02:26:02.180
The amount of men who could sleep with three new women a day is like,
02:26:13.160
an average woman has the sexual optionality of,
02:26:30.840
It's not that we would want it to be different.
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We just want women to be completely comprehending the fact that that is the reality.
02:26:54.540
It's a matter of men and women both understanding that we as humans have our own mating dance.
02:27:02.900
but Brian always talks about how men shouldn't have to be,
02:27:14.680
not just the abundance of options that women have,
02:27:16.540
but the access to those options that they now have.
02:27:25.700
which are the ones who are mostly in the dating market,
02:27:31.000
matching men or outperforming men in most markets in terms of your income.
02:27:36.820
So why should we have to pay for the date and pull out a bunch of money when you guys could do that?
02:27:44.060
You're saying because it's in your male masculine,
02:27:47.660
There are a lot of ways that a man can court you without having to spend a bunch of money on you.
02:27:52.060
So what is the answer to the question you're asking?
02:27:58.340
What I would say is women need to just see this as this is the way that it works.
02:28:02.880
And they need to just accept the fact that like,
02:28:14.920
We know that we're not the only guy that you're talking to right now.
02:28:18.520
So if we're not going to be going all in on the first date or all in on the second date,
02:28:26.740
we're doing just a little bit of the beginning of the mating dance to see if you return the favor of that mating dance.
02:28:32.200
But most women won't return the favor because they think that,
02:28:40.080
There's a very early part of that attraction of mating dance.
02:28:48.880
Women are in this mindset that they need the dates paid for.
02:28:56.220
And the bare minimum is literally being picked up.
02:29:04.380
I think men are waiting for women to be out of that cliche.
02:29:07.840
Like you have to do all this for me because in the 19 or in the 1870s and 13th colony,
02:29:19.520
Like the 13th colony is like New England type like shit.
02:29:28.380
that's why they expect to do so much for women.
02:29:31.140
That's why they feel so obligated to do so much for women.
02:29:39.860
hookup culture was fucking crazy during Plymouth Rock days.
02:29:47.060
these bitches during Plymouth Rock days were fucking awesome.
02:29:49.580
Y'all talk about cheating until y'all meet Mormons.
02:29:58.640
I went to a private school with a bunch of them.
02:30:52.220
and you cannot have multiple wives in Christianity.
02:30:55.540
but Mormons can classify themselves as Christians as well.
02:30:58.840
but Mormonism is a much newer invention than Christianity.
02:31:09.700
I don't know why Mormons existed at that point,
02:31:36.860
y'all have dating life on easy mode opportunities just for existing.
02:31:54.860
I could tackle this from a couple different perspectives.
02:31:58.720
if we're at a concert and he wants to get backstage or I want to get backstage.
02:32:07.340
so when it comes to something that's difficult,
02:32:11.020
if you have a higher likelihood of dealing with,
02:32:21.300
are you rejecting men or are they rejecting you?
02:32:24.720
Sometimes women don't understand that they're getting rejected.
02:32:33.360
Women will typically get rejected on the back end.
02:32:34.960
And they don't understand because they don't accept no as an answer.
02:32:41.620
And you can't fathom a world in which a man would judge you.
02:32:43.200
And this all comes down to feminism and how men have been projected as,
02:32:46.540
these negative images in our lives and that men are,
02:33:57.680
because there's way more women going to college
02:34:31.040
aren't getting college degrees as much as women.
02:36:12.740
And you want dudes to pay for you on the first day.
02:36:18.900
I feel like I have the exact same opportunity as any man.
02:36:37.020
There's still, like, children's, like, child slaves and stuff in other countries.
02:36:47.180
We have those privileges in a lot of countries.
02:36:49.040
In a lot of third world countries, there isn't that.
02:36:58.980
Women aren't even allowed to be in the front line in the first place.
02:37:07.220
Every single adult in my family, even my brothers, are in the military.
02:37:10.000
And I could tell you right now, all the women they love are front line women.
02:37:18.580
The only reason why women are deemed not reliable is because those women who are getting deemed not reliable
02:37:25.280
They showed up and just completely bombed that interview.
02:37:29.400
If your first impression was so bad enough to where you think that you're not going to make enough money,
02:37:37.880
You're saying that people are denying women jobs because of things that they're thinking about women.
02:37:46.340
How can you possibly prove that about the person doing the interview?
02:37:55.700
He made a decision to hire someone who wasn't her.
02:37:59.620
He thought they were more qualified for the position.
02:38:03.020
Because people are interested in making money when they hire somebody.
02:38:09.520
Anyways, I'm also a feminist because I think that we need...
02:38:19.920
Because there's laws going against, first off, abortion.
02:38:24.640
I don't want to bring up abortion because I don't want to get into that.
02:38:31.080
I've had three abortions in my life and in no way, shape, or form do I feel like I'm
02:38:34.760
in spirit of men or that we don't have enough rights or anything.
02:38:38.960
But feminism is advocating specifically heavily for female rights, right?
02:38:43.740
Can we do a contest at the table to see who's had the most abortions?
02:39:07.760
Anyways, there's a lot of violence against women.
02:39:15.040
Statistically speaking, men are way more likely to be shot, to be stabbed, to be assaulted.
02:39:25.000
They're more likely to be S-Aid, and they're more likely to be stalked, and they're only
02:39:29.380
more likely to be S-Aid if you don't count the prison population, okay?
02:39:33.960
So, there are some things where women are more likely to be victims than men.
02:39:36.860
Men do not speak up about those things, because then they...
02:39:40.000
Because they've had to suppress their emotions.
02:39:42.640
It's other men that are making other men feel like they can't speak up.
02:39:56.280
Because they're afraid of getting judged by other men.
02:40:14.380
I've been in that position where I've been assaulted.
02:40:18.260
Why would I ever go and turn the tables and be like, you're whatever, you're worthless,
02:40:26.560
And for you to make that assumption is fucking terrible.
02:40:30.740
No, again, remember my thing earlier about how women are depending on my own benevolence.
02:40:37.900
No, how dare you make that assumption about me, sir?
02:40:45.860
That I'm saying you don't care about that person?
02:40:47.740
No, I'm saying you would be unattracted to him as a man.
02:41:12.440
My mother used to beat me every day until I was removed from the home.
02:41:18.900
And blaming it straight on men saying that women have no rights?
02:41:22.760
Do you know which children are most likely to be abused?
02:41:33.580
Happens at a higher rate than two family households and...
02:41:56.460
And logistically, we are getting paid like 49 cents more than men in every single job.
02:42:04.560
We have so many rights because we fought for so long.
02:42:10.840
I don't think that there's a wage gap, but I don't know.
02:42:22.120
Okay, so the actual wage gap, the actual wage gap in, I believe it's North America.
02:42:27.060
See, the North America or the United States, as of 2020, is 17 cents.
02:42:37.140
If you look specifically at men and women under the age of 30 who work full-time jobs, it's 93 cents.
02:42:46.600
And in most of the major metro areas where women are complaining the loudest about the wage gap...
02:42:55.720
In New York, women, I believe, make 101% of what men make.
02:42:58.700
They're complaining about working 12-hour shifts.
02:43:02.160
But my point is, the wage gap, when we say the whole, the wage gap is a myth, that whole thing, first of all, there's a reason the wage gap exists, and there's also a reason why it gets higher the older you get.
02:43:14.940
Because women decide to do things like take leave to take care of children.
02:43:19.120
You can't take three, four years off from work, come back, and be like, I can't believe the guy who was making the same amount as me four years ago is now making more than me.
02:43:32.480
So, most of the women who complain the loudest, which are young females in major metro areas, they have literally nothing to complain about.
02:43:42.900
They have the same degree of equality as men do.
02:43:47.660
Everything that you say about what men think about women or what hiring managers think about women is what you think they think is completely unfalsifiable.
02:43:57.060
And by the way, I know I'm kind of like shouting this at you.
02:44:10.120
I mean, if you're a feminist, you're a feminist.
02:44:11.260
You just obviously don't realize how far we've gotten in America.
02:44:24.900
I would ask you to get therapy because all of that in between is fine.
02:44:30.840
When you are biologically born with a vagina, you're a girl.
02:44:35.600
And when you're born with a penis, you're a man.
02:45:02.540
If you're biologically born with a penis, you're a man.
02:45:29.340
Yo, Madison, you're going to sit right here, okay?
02:45:36.220
Am I not allowed to sit there because of my nipples?
02:46:01.120
She made like a trans statement, and like, I get it.
02:46:04.120
Like, you know, people get touchy on some topics like that.
02:46:08.620
Wasn't she making the point that men aren't more emotional than women?
02:46:10.740
She was the one who was like, it's okay to have your opinion.
02:46:26.080
I'm not this way, but I respect people that are this way.
02:46:28.200
They just believe in things really strongly and get emotional and upset.
02:46:31.420
And I think that she probably just, you know, the worst words about trans.
02:46:39.100
I am so completely and utterly repulsed by the way that you live your life.
02:46:49.740
Are you, like, trying to make me horny right now?
02:47:10.240
Madison, you're always gone when the shit goes down.
02:47:26.320
I said, if you are biologically born with a vagina, you are a female.
02:47:30.600
And if you're born with a penis, you're a male.
02:47:39.700
I feel like she was already, like, raging a little bit before from, like, what?
02:47:50.940
Look, she was getting absolutely obliterated every single time she brought up a point about
02:47:57.040
It got debunked in a sentence or less by both men and women.
02:48:01.040
So she was pissed off that she had nothing to back up her beliefs.
02:48:06.740
And she stormed off because she was looking for an excuse of something to get pissed off
02:48:09.540
about, which was not just, I'm getting completely owned on every single sentence.
02:48:15.700
You can't talk shit when someone's not in the room.
02:48:22.160
I think the way you phrased it was a little bit negative.
02:48:26.560
No, I feel like if I was her and I walked out and then you started being like, well, you
02:48:32.320
Or, or she could have just not stormed out like a child.
02:48:36.180
See, like that, like, would you say that if she was right here?
02:48:40.120
Yes, if she comes back, we'll be like, don't storm out like a child again.
02:48:49.760
She probably would, if you genuinely would, like, cool, but like, if you're going to
02:48:52.620
like, say this here and then when she's here, you're like, hey, what's up, right?
02:48:55.000
I would tell her to her face, it is childish to storm off.
02:48:59.620
Because, honestly, I don't even think what you said was that, like, there's way worse
02:49:05.560
Like, if Chase was fucking here and saying, like, we could have talked about, is it like,
02:49:15.420
Because I don't powwow with the fucking girls on the panel.
02:49:18.940
He told you that he's repulsed by your life and you sat here and you were like, hey.
02:49:23.520
I was just, I was just saying, if you, if you, if you, if you would put your word like
02:49:27.260
I just didn't know if you were, like, just talking because she was like...
02:49:29.420
Well, okay, so, we're, right now we're, we're, we're live streaming.
02:49:44.820
I just feel like, I mean, if you would say that to her face, like, cool, you know?
02:49:50.880
If you were, like, saying, like, a child or something, but if she wasn't...
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Men tend to speak very, very bluntly about exactly what...
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No, and you're, I have a feeling that this is something that goes through the minds of women,
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like, no, you shouldn't say that, because what if she was here?
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I just want to be a good person and, like, not put someone down.
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And know that women talk shit behind their backs.
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Let me get a couple of the chats here while we have them.
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Someone mentioned earlier that you're not much to look at and you don't need me to offend
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Though your statement of relaxation by good head is just weird, I'm a 24-year-old virgin,
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Valid, but I think that if you're a 24-year-old virgin and you just had one of the worst days
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of your life and I came and glucked you off insanely, then honestly, you would probably
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And I don't think that's too much of a crazy statement to say.
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I think any man in this room who had a bad day and then received head and it'd be not
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From a woman he actually loves and who actually loves him, sure.
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Your woman that you love could maybe, you know, and you'd be like, oh, thank you, baby.
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Should I change the title of the video to Bang Storms Off?
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I'm not going to lie, that did take me to the surprise though.
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I was like, I thought she was mad at me at first.
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That's why I was saying it was escalating, yeah.
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Because a woman telling her that feminism is BS is just not going to help her.
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And she shouldn't have gotten mad at my opinion.
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I think people that are really, really emotional are probably feminists.
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It's okay for someone to feel things really deeply.
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Most people who are hyper-emotional are probably feminists.
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Y'all were sitting here telling us our life is shameful.
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And I just sat here like, y'all are a really lovely couple.
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Speaking of which, somebody at this panel has a dark secret related to...
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We're going to get into that in a little bit after I get through these chats.
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The Mormon husband needs to be put in a chokehold.
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Maybe after a good sleep, he'll wake up and realize he's getting cucked by someone who
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does coke and stored rage head in John Zerka, making the rest of us look bad.
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The Mormon husband, man, who's married to her, who's currently sleeping with John Zerka
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I don't do porn right now because I was with...
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If you have any dignity, dude, you gotta divorce her.
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You cannot be a Mormon bishop and tolerate infidelity.
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I promise you, though, you will never find pussy as amazing as mine and a throat as amazing
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I can ride right here and show you my vagina and you'll be like, wow.
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I'm a fan of vaginas, but I'm going to pass on it.
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But he will never leave me and I can do anything I want.
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That's a very generous offer of you to fillet me.
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Like, if he was my friend and we were out and he'd be like, damn, I wish I had some
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Have you ever had a friend out and be like, damn, I wish I had some head?
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...imply that they wanted to hit on me, but they would never literally look at me and
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Like, you've never had, like, sexual tension with your friends?
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Let's be real, I have someone that, like, I call a friend, but we are more intimate
02:56:30.880
No, but someone that I'm now emotionally connected to, maybe in a certain way.
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And if I make friends with her, she's never going to look at me and be like, I really wish
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that's a head and a head and a head and a head and a head and a head.
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Well, for me, no, because I have sex differently.
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So maybe it's what you're getting off, like, giving off energetically rather than, like...
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If I want to cum, I think you're my best friend.
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Like, it's a good friend thing to do to make each other cum.
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I don't respect what you do or how you do it, but I respect you as a human, human-human,
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Are going to look at you and be like, you're telling us right now that giving head to your
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I will shake your hand, but I ask that you sanitize it first, okay?
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I don't think you realize how easy of a commitment that is.
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I know you're surrounded by a bunch of degenerate, sex-hungry men.
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Wait, come back in a week, and then you can talk shit to me.
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And when I fuck you, I'm going to come on stream, and it's going to be the funniest thing
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Every time we have an argument, I'm going to be like...
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Is that how you acquire the people you fuck, just by, like, they don't want to fuck you,
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But when I do fuck you, I'm going to, like, put it in your ass, and you're going to be
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my bitch, and it's going to be, like, you can never argue with me again.
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As soon as you fuck your boyfriend in the ass, they can never argue with you again.
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Yeah, is he dominant while you're pegging him in the butt?
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What's going on with my second thoughts about the industry?
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No one ever forced me in to do anything, and again, I don't have men on there, and it's
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The fact that you are so logical, for the most part, and working, again, respect for someone
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And I'll say it over and over again, because I mean no genuine disrespect, but I'm like, the
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stupidity is beyond me, and I think that I can't believe you are enabling, supporting,
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Just because you can't do it doesn't mean you can't believe it.
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Y'all might think, like, this is, like, bad, but to be honest, my mental health was so bad,
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I've quite literally slammed my phone against my head until it shattered.
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She got me out of all of those awful mindsets of...
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So now you feel indebted to her to the point that you need to help her with this shit?
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Wait, I was like, no, I told her that I was going to make her Uber here, because I was
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like, well, my mental health's a little iffy today, I don't think I'm going to shout
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I would genuinely not be up here if it wasn't for her.
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I think she actually just wants to sleep with you, because that's what she wants to do with everybody.
03:01:23.520
You can look me up, and I have the awfulest gay remarks, like, if that transcript is strong,
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There's so many conversations going on right now.
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Give me a counsel for saying I don't like gay people.
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If Dan just said something that outlandish, there is a point.
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There's one difference between friends and a person that you would consider yourself to be
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That is the only thing that makes it different, okay?
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The way that you go about your life, you're just like, I just love sex.
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There's nothing meaningful about your relationships with anybody.
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The whole thing was that I stopped doing porn for him.
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Do you realize what you're doing to yourself right now?
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You're completely fucking up the way that your mind works.
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And if you can admit that, why wouldn't you change it?
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And do you realize that you're proving everybody's point?
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I know you have a little bit more logic than how you're like coming across.
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I know you have a little bit more logic than how you're coming across.
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I get that you're like, oh, like you're turning me on.
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But like, logically, what are you saying to you?
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There's no meaning to any relationship that you have.
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I mean, my man that I'm with right now will be the one that has my kids when I'm 30.
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But me hanging out with him and getting to fuck and getting to be like, oh, you're mine.
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I was like, ooh, I can't emotionally deal with this.
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But when people judge me, it just makes me realize I'm so much more unique than them.
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I think you guys just have a big difference in walls.
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I am the exact same way on every single clip I've ever been on.
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By your own definition, you don't think that you're fucked up.
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You think that you're the one who is better than other people.
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I think, yeah, like, if you're that judgmental...
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If you can't handle her, don't insert yourself into her life.
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All I'm saying is I think you guys have very different morals,
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but I think it is so disrespectful that you are looking at him
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and saying, you turned me on with Billy sitting right there.
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But it's also, like, if my boyfriend was sitting right next to me
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And you're, like, being very graceful right now.
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I'm okay with you feeling disrespect towards me.
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and someone at this table said this to Allison,
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You would fight on behalf of your friend's honor.
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in the boxing match that we're going to set up?
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because it's someone who's brainwashed and crazy
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It's because you know she's dating a man of principle.
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I'm going to make every single one of those moves.
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You just said that Zerka would never let you cheat on him,
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I love that you can't wrap your mind around it.
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I don't think I've ever punched somebody to be honest.
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I like putting in the exact same amount of effort
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I think when I first started dating my boyfriend,
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I don't think that's what 50-50 is about at all.
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because I think some of the table's argument is like,
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like I make sure that all the food going into his body
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because Jeff Bezos is one of those wealthy people.
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So it's like your life would be so inconceivably different
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and be that person and still do the same things
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he has like a professional chef preparing the meals.
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would you still show up as the same human in the same,
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Because I think what they're looking at is she's like,
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I'm never going to pay because he has so much money.
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it doesn't take away from my character because the other male or the male has so much money.
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Like I still want to make you dinner every now and again.
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I think it's the type of guys I fuck with are so red pill.
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I'm just correcting you because they would never think,
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but they would never think that it's okay for me to pay.
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I don't know if that's a red pill quality actually.
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tell me I am not allowed to drive myself anywhere when I'm doing him.
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I pretty much ended that greaseball MLD's career.
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Mike Davis has that precision and knows how to cut right through the soul.
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but I basically just made the point that there's no way that that relationship is not currently on the rocks.
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they did a podcast together and the way she talks to him is like super aggressive.
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They've had interviews post all the shit that's come out?
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I think there was one where they were saying that,
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Like we sit down together and laugh at it at night.
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I'm not sure if I could get the girls he's getting.
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But like knowing that she fucked all those guys
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do you think he thinks she's still attractive now?
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your woman is supposed to be a reflection of you as a man.
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yeah but so that has nothing to do with my masculinity