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00:03:14.160 have the guests introduce themselves so please tell us your name age occupation where you're from

00:03:18.740 and education um hi i'm bella i'm 19 and i'm from orange county california um i'm at ucsb right now

00:03:26.680 studying pre-law okay uh and the the major is it's pre-law yeah gotcha uh and are you employed at

00:03:34.660 all right now we're just focusing on school i'm just working at a retail store down in ivy okay not

00:03:39.040 that much yeah yeah uh what about you i'm sabrina i'm 23 i'm from westchester new york but i live in

00:03:44.600 london now i do of and i completed some university okay and uh are you just here visiting or i'm here

00:03:53.440 visiting the states for about a month before i go back to europe is one of your uh parents do they

00:03:58.860 have uh like uk citizenship or what are you doing in london no i just i'm really into football like

00:04:04.580 soccer and so i moved out there to kind of go to the games and stuff because i'm a nerd okay got it

00:04:10.820 but i love america all right what about you hi i'm sierra i'm 36 years old from seattle washington

00:04:17.520 i've been a dental assistant for 15 years but for the last seven i've been um pretty much a stay-at-home

00:04:23.960 mom uh i went to trade school for dental assisting and then i completed about half my bachelor's in

00:04:30.700 psychology all right cool cool what about you dakota ray 38 um i'm born and raised in la

00:04:38.280 uh i work in politics and i went to ucla graduated with an anthropology degree with focuses on biological

00:04:45.600 linguistics and cultural all right got it what about you uh i'm sativa i'm 30 i live in

00:04:53.940 oklahoma but i'm from california um i'm an artist and a college dropout okay all right what about you

00:05:00.760 hi my name is jacqueline thomas i went to college as a college athlete and i went for my bachelor's

00:05:09.320 and my master's and i am a stay-at-home mom and a homeschooling mother and whatever other hat i need

00:05:17.260 to wear i wear it well all right all right sorry could you just i missed that uh repeat your age

00:05:22.020 i didn't say it 41 ah okay uh what about you okay uh hi i'm haley i'm 33 i also live in oklahoma hello

00:05:32.140 um right now i kind of work at a college like um as an usher security at all the different sports

00:05:40.280 games you know football whether it's softball all of them and my highest level of education is high

00:05:45.920 school all right hello my name is felicity hughes i'm 19 from santa barbara and i'm a professional

00:05:53.060 eye crosser she works for the works for the podcast all right uh going around the table once more

00:06:00.360 what's uh what's everyone's relationship status if you're single how long have you been single

00:06:05.320 and what's the longest relationship you've ever been in starting with you um i'm single right now

00:06:10.120 i've been single for like two years and then my longest relationship was probably about like

00:06:14.520 a year and six months and that was in high school yeah okay uh who broke who broke up with who it was

00:06:22.400 mutual it was for college oh you guys split up like right before you went off to yeah like the day

00:06:27.000 before told like a hundred percent mutual or was there one person leaning more in one direction or

00:06:33.180 i mean i wanted to try out long distance but obviously like that's really hard and i can't

00:06:38.080 put blame on the person the other person for not wanting to do it so i had to respect him obviously

00:06:42.900 so we kind of made the mutual decision like yeah we'll break up and go our separate ways for college

00:06:49.060 new lifestyle sure what about you i'm in a relationship right now we've been together

00:06:54.040 since the end of summer and my longest relationship was 13 months you said you've been together since the

00:07:01.760 end of summer yes your current relationship current relationship so three months three months safe to say

00:07:07.480 okay okay yes and your longest was 13 months yes who broke up with who i broke up with him okay and

00:07:15.220 then i've i uh found online you had some like boyfriend application thing or something um is that

00:07:22.440 how you found your current boyfriend he did the bf application no he didn't okay that's funny all right

00:07:29.460 uh sorry the the 13 uh month relationship yes who initiated the breakup i did what and why was that

00:07:37.940 he was a bit of a porn addict and i had found porn again on his computer and at this on this time

00:07:44.360 it was a pc it's a gaming pc why are you watching porn in a gaming pc i was just fed up so broke up with him

00:07:50.900 don't you produce porn though good question i produce i produce boobie pictures which is technically

00:08:00.420 yes it was technically porn i'm a yeah okay were you doing the uh the only fans when you were with him

00:08:08.060 no this was three years prior to it three years prior correct gotcha um so that uh your relationship

00:08:17.780 predates the start of you doing only fans um would you have an issue now i guess like say your

00:08:22.900 current boyfriend who you've been seeing for three months if he was uh watching porn would you have

00:08:27.960 an issue with it no now you now you wouldn't no now i wouldn't i think i've matured and became less

00:08:33.640 insecure since then but also yeah well i don't know if a woman's insecure if she doesn't want her

00:08:40.660 boyfriend watching porn i don't know if that would make her insecure but was that the reason why you

00:08:44.820 had an issue with it he couldn't get heart that was the biggest issue which was a result of well

00:08:48.780 i don't know if that would make you insecure but yeah uh yeah if the porn consumption has a negative

00:08:54.160 impact on the relationship in this case for sex life i think it's kind of a valid yes issue to have

00:09:02.020 um but uh what about okay what if he didn't watch porn your current boyfriend but he he was like

00:09:08.500 subscribed to a girl's of page not because of to consume her nude content but to

00:09:15.340 conversate with her would that be an issue i would prefer he buy her nude content than

00:09:23.140 talk to her because i mean that's a big portion of only fans is it's not just the posting of the

00:09:28.000 nude photos it's like the back and forth girlfriend experience parasocial yes conversation thing that would

00:09:37.280 be an issue for sure okay uh right what about you i am currently in a relationship we've been

00:09:44.100 together for three and a half years and then my longest relationship was four years all right

00:09:50.280 four years ever married no any kids yes i have we have a one-year-old with my current boyfriend

00:09:56.860 one and a half and then i have a six-year-old with your four-year yes okay uh let's see the four-year

00:10:05.300 relationship who broke up with who neither death ended that one oh uh sorry to hear may i ask what

00:10:11.960 happened uh heart issues he was 35 i see okay yeah so he passed away when our son was 10 days old oh wow

00:10:19.800 yeah dang were you guys living together at the time or was the relationship otherwise good or yeah

00:10:25.940 everything was probably yeah it's good it had been we just had our son just bought our house and

00:10:32.100 did he have a like a history of heart issues or he was a competitive bodybuilder steroids for a very

00:10:38.480 long time so yeah that certainly had something to do with it like was he actively taking like trt or

00:10:45.840 steroids while during that time period yeah oh yeah when when i found out that we were pregnant he

00:10:52.160 came down a lot and then it just didn't matter in the end i don't think i'm curious if uh if you get

00:11:00.160 pregnant while you you know the father is like taken because like if the father smokes doesn't that

00:11:09.140 have an impact on the sperm quality so like if you're taking trt if you're taking steroids does

00:11:15.660 that have some sort of impact on great question i thought the same thing and does it could have an

00:11:21.940 issue potential issue i don't know i asked the doctor and he said no that everything should be

00:11:28.240 perfect like what if your kid just is like fucking i know just jacked yeah but no you ever seen those

00:11:34.720 super buff like seven year olds that's crazy yeah yeah okay well uh i assume the kid's healthy i'm

00:11:42.260 yeah absolutely he's he's he's more of a musician than a bodybuilder were you guys like uh was it a

00:11:48.540 unintended pregnancy or were you guys trying to get pregnant like we know what we're doing but we we

00:11:54.920 weren't being careful i think honestly he thought he thought he was like sterile because of all of

00:12:00.960 the steroids that's what he was told yeah um but obviously like we know what we're doing uh right

00:12:06.780 yeah so he wasn't well yeah because i i think when you're my understanding when you're taking a

00:12:12.400 trt testosterone replacement yeah i think doesn't that like temporarily at least while you're taking it

00:12:18.800 make you essentially sterile it's supposed to yeah that's what i was saying so yeah so so uh you guys

00:12:27.160 were not aiming to have a kid but not at the time we we knew we were going to get married we knew we

00:12:34.940 were going to have kids that was all in the plans but yeah was there like a specific was he in the sauna

00:12:41.400 or something when it happened or just been asleep actually oh like were you next to him i wasn't i was in

00:12:48.620 nursery with the baby but i'm the one that found him and yeah at home yep it was at home yeah that's

00:12:55.980 sorry to hear that thank you um okay and so but you have so you have two kids one from your uh i guess

00:13:03.140 does that make you a a widow or no if you were married married so if you're married i guess but

00:13:09.820 yeah okay um what about you uh currently single and i've never had a boyfriend hold on whoa

00:13:19.180 i've had like a situationship and i've dated but i've never had like an official boyfriend

00:13:25.260 okay uh well i guess what's the you said you had a situationship what's the longest period of time

00:13:31.060 that you've like seen a guy that was two years two two years but i mean no title no no did you

00:13:40.660 did you say i love you no and you were saying but we did i mean we loved each other but we didn't say

00:13:46.200 it out loud until like way later after you guys broke up yeah wait what hold on it's complicated i

00:13:53.600 mean he was he was an athlete so um yeah okay wait so uh and was it on again off again or was it like

00:14:01.920 a two-year straight well um i don't want to give tmi but i was 26 and i lost my virginity to him so it

00:14:10.360 was uh it was on again off again but he didn't live here so every time he'd come into town we'd hang

00:14:16.740 out and um he wasn't seeing anyone else at the time i it's yeah it's a lot but yeah was was he was

00:14:23.800 he a u.s athlete yeah an olympian oh okay what uh okay so when when you said you came to town i was

00:14:32.240 like oh yeah he lived uh where snows because he was a a winter a winter athlete luge snowboarding

00:14:40.640 snow oh snowboarding okay um interesting okay but yeah does he have red hair no oh my gosh no but

00:14:50.100 he competes with what's yeah what's that guy's name with the sean white yeah yeah uh okay a kaibaka

00:14:57.080 thank for the gifted why won't it let me oh here we go kaibaka thank for the gifted 22 subs thank

00:15:04.340 you kaibaka appreciate it oh jake thank for the raid man appreciate it hope you had a good stream

00:15:10.260 uh okay so uh never wait sorry and just i i got distracted from all the other details there

00:15:18.500 like uh lost her virginity to him at 26 yeah um were was it on and off or not really yeah i mean it was

00:15:28.700 like i mean it was look just a little closer to the mic oh yeah it was definitely on and off for two

00:15:34.200 years he'd come to visit i'd go up there to visit him we never made it official but we were were you

00:15:39.960 dating other men during this time period was he dating other women no on god yeah that i know for

00:15:46.700 sure you you know for sure he wasn't yeah but i mean he was like in a different city different state

00:15:53.200 true so anything could be possible but but from my gut instinct and what he's told me i i highly doubt it

00:16:01.240 how often would you guys see each other um a couple times a month i guess we'd try to make it work

00:16:07.300 so you would go there he'd go come here yeah same yeah okay so like every week basically or maybe

00:16:14.600 less than a couple a couple times a month maybe two to three times a month yeah two times every other

00:16:19.840 week yeah you'd see each other okay and this was a very long time ago like hard to recall the obama

00:16:26.800 administration yes unfortunately and um okay um that was a scary time was he a virgin too because

00:16:38.140 no absolutely not absolutely no way okay um do you snowboard also or i tried you try it didn't work

00:16:46.080 out so well i'm a skateboarder but skateboarding um have you dated anybody else no just him

00:16:53.600 dated well uh yeah i guess uh yeah i mean i've dated yeah you've had other situations yes of

00:17:00.260 course yeah besides the two-year snowboard olympian guy by the way like did he place

00:17:07.100 medalist no no not in the olympics but he he's a decorated snowboard uh half pipe rider

00:17:14.720 somebody's gonna find figure out who that is probably it's coming but besides him i guess what's the

00:17:21.500 next longest period of time that you've not had a boyfriend but yeah i had another situationship

00:17:27.640 that was like maybe seven months this was also a long time ago so was that that was after i don't

00:17:34.180 care you know what do you mean about i mean everything yeah you don't care no like children

00:17:40.440 i'm so kidding no i mean i i advocate for for people to have families and i totally believe in the

00:17:47.940 nuclear family um i just love being alone okay i do i love my peace i love my dogs i you know the

00:17:55.040 dogs okay and but yeah do you let's say you were to meet the right guy though do you think you would

00:18:01.680 want kids or are you kind of not not wanting kids no no i mean who knows because you can meet someone

00:18:07.760 and then your entire perspective on life could change and you could want things you never wanted

00:18:11.660 before so who knows but as of right now there's not a single person that i could imagine having to be

00:18:17.940 connected with for the rest of my life if you were let's say you found a great guy tomorrow

00:18:25.680 and you uh actually i'll save that for i'll save that question for later um but okay so you were

00:18:33.580 uh 26 you lost your virginia at 26 to a snowboarding olympian uh that's yeah that's cool but like in

00:18:42.200 college did you you didn't date at all a lot of people date in college yeah you know definitely did

00:18:46.860 not i'm not sorority i was in a sorority yeah i went to ucla i was a delta gamma dg what's that yeah

00:18:53.260 okay yeah uh dg do you know is there a chant uh i know like we did this a lot what's it's like the wave

00:19:00.320 ahoy like is that a long time ago yeah yeah that's a dg thing okay do you um still kick it

00:19:08.420 with any of your sorority sisters no i mean we're friends on the internet and that's about it but

00:19:12.860 i was in music at the time so i was out on tour a lot um and then i'd come back on school yeah i

00:19:20.420 were you a stagehand or what no i was um really close with the band paramore i got my start in music

00:19:27.800 when i was 18 uh they were my first interview and we hit it off and were friends for like a decade

00:19:33.260 so i'd go out on the road with them and i just was kind of like you know a little detached from the

00:19:39.340 sorority but yeah yeah you know still lived in the house so you would like um were you doing like media

00:19:45.140 or press for that for paramore or well for them i was mostly just on the road hanging out like we

00:19:50.560 were buddies so was there who uh what's her name the lead singer hayley were you friends with

00:19:55.720 yeah we have matching tattoos yeah no way that's it yeah that's dope yeah she's cool i i like her

00:20:01.340 she's a really good singer too she i mean yeah what's that imagine you know i have their hit on

00:20:06.620 my one of my playlists their misery business misery business yep yeah and can you sing it i can but i

00:20:13.000 won't come on blast it but uh no you'll have to pay right i liked their new they had a hit i think

00:20:19.480 like two years ago ain't it fun ain't it i think they won a grammy for that one yeah that i like that

00:20:24.640 one too yeah normally like bands that were you know big 10 20 years ago yeah don't man i mean

00:20:31.200 i've worked in music for 20 years they are incredibly talented like they are truly talented people who

00:20:40.100 are deserving of all the success i saw them do online i saw like an acoustic cover of misery

00:20:46.760 business and she's a good singer she's a really good singer incredible uh shit we should have you

00:20:50.960 should bring her on yeah i mean if we were still talking we've kind of drifted oh yeah you guys had

00:20:57.180 like a little we didn't have a falling out but like um god i don't i'm not gonna air like dirty

00:21:03.040 laundry but let's just say we like kind of went separate ways i was in college and she was you

00:21:09.260 know obviously like a musician and yeah we just kind of like drifted apart i love her to death

00:21:14.580 she have kids i don't know no no so you guys are kind of like a little bit in the same boat

00:21:18.920 totally because uh yeah you know just yeah focusing on yeah we were tight yeah haley and i were tight

00:21:25.620 for a while hey let's get haley on that'd be sick i would love that i mean i have her email i cannot

00:21:30.140 yeah shoot her an email she's she's very mysterious she you know she tries she keeps very quiet and to

00:21:36.220 herself in private i'm not sure if she would want to be on the show i think she just said that uh

00:21:41.120 if you're a republican don't don't come to her concerts no she said if you're racist or oh so

00:21:48.060 well you know what she meant something along those lines you know she's christian though right well

00:21:53.460 she grew up the whole band grew up christian they were the i mean i got my first bible from josh

00:21:59.020 you know after like a really um deep and intense like conversation we were all having about

00:22:04.580 you know uh christianity but yeah um i think she's kind of like i don't know i can't speak for her

00:22:10.640 but it seems as though she's kind of like gotcha stepped away from that cool cool well all right

00:22:16.300 um sorry i don't mean to monopolize no no it's all good um so okay besides the two-year guy there

00:22:22.180 was a guy you were seeing for seven months but this was all a long time ago yeah um i mean when's

00:22:29.820 the last time you've ever i guess been involved with something i've been celibate for like three

00:22:34.160 years well celibate for three years yeah involuntarily involuntarily involuntarily

00:22:40.580 yeah hold on yeah not at well um wasn't expecting that yeah well i don't know if you're involuntarily

00:22:48.340 celibate i think you're voluntarily celibate no i would i mean i'd obviously love to go on dates and

00:22:53.980 like meet someone but you know but when you say celibacy we're talking about sex right yeah okay

00:22:59.260 yeah um so i mean you're voluntarily no i really don't want watch here i can fix this immediately

00:23:07.380 no no you're now voluntarily i mean all right okay i've just turned you from a incel to a vol

00:23:16.980 cell congratulations yeah that lasts it lasts for six weeks by the way okay so i'll proposition you

00:23:23.280 again in six weeks and you'll continue to be a voluntarily voluntary celibate we'll circle back

00:23:28.300 we'll circle back yeah uh so okay you've been celibate for three years though um have you been

00:23:33.720 on any dates in that time period though yes yeah how often would you say you go on dates well i'm on

00:23:39.140 raya and hinge and i talk to a lot of people but i never like follow through with going out do you

00:23:46.300 think uh in terms of what you're looking for would you say you have high standards no not at all no

00:23:51.240 they're on the floor the standards not on the floor but like i don't care how much money you make i

00:23:57.820 don't care what you do no i don't care like so you'll date a guy at mcdonald's or yeah he's got

00:24:02.700 an energy that like get this girl a cashier burger flipper chick-fil-a they have to have like a you

00:24:10.620 know je ne sais quoi like a quality about them that's like undeniable and you can work it you know

00:24:16.180 what i'm saying like as long as you've got like an energy some charisma yeah some charisma you have

00:24:21.400 this you know there's a lot of there's not there's a lot of really workers there's a lot of really

00:24:26.180 insecure you know yeah well uh send them my way i will get you do you are there any carve outs when

00:24:32.700 it comes to the fast food like if they work at chick-fil-a you don't fuck with them no i mean i

00:24:37.980 don't eat fast food but you know it doesn't it doesn't really matter so any fast food establishment

00:24:42.520 i can link you're really honing in on that part but uh yeah sure okay but so don't care what about

00:24:47.380 other things like do you care about height anything like that yeah i mean i like athletic

00:24:51.700 people okay so can't be obese no definitely not i mean i don't mind what about like a dad bod

00:24:57.640 yeah i don't mind a dad bod at all in fact i don't like you know the these dudes per x yeah no oh no

00:25:05.260 oh i'm sorry it's not for everybody yeah it's not my vibe it's not my vibe uh like all yoked no

00:25:12.060 but like what about like brad pitt troy or fight club yeah yeah that's that's fine yeah but you

00:25:17.680 don't want like bodybuilder no yeah okay i like it okay height though yeah six foot probably six

00:25:23.960 foot i like to feel small you know i'll tell you five five five five okay um

00:25:29.700 so wait uh i don't want a short cane i kind of you said you said you sorry what was the thing you

00:25:36.360 said though that you don't about money i don't care how much you said you your standards are not

00:25:41.920 that high no i don't know six foot that's not that's like really the only thing is like just be

00:25:47.220 taller than me i don't care how much money you make like you know and have like a good energy

00:25:51.460 that like good energy when you say good energy what do you mean um god i don't want to just like

00:25:58.620 a guy who i don't want to say like is obsessed with me because i think that that sounds weird but

00:26:03.040 a guy who's like really really um attracted to me he's really attracted to you yes yeah someone

00:26:10.280 who's like really attracted to me you know doesn't that give you the ick no it depends does that give

00:26:16.180 you the ick a little bit when he's like what do you think a little bit i mean if it's like too much

00:26:20.700 no i'm the same way you want that yeah i'm a simp so it's nice you want the guy to be a simp i

00:26:27.820 don't know well do girls really like that what's that yes if it's your man yeah yeah it's your man

00:26:33.260 but i don't mind being the bigger simp simp is like a lover girl lover boy yeah oh no not that like

00:26:39.720 you know but i think there has to be a baseline like i think you have to already have pretty strong

00:26:46.280 feelings for the guy to like that behavior isn't going to be the thing that that i don't know what

00:26:53.720 the right word is that that brings upon your attraction to them like so just just a guy

00:27:00.660 being insanely attracted to you that in and of itself isn't going to be the trigger uh for

00:27:07.820 your attraction to him no right so there's got to be other criteria i have to find him attractive

00:27:13.020 obviously right that's not like the only thing but then i think at that point once you're already

00:27:17.160 attracted to him then like whether or not he's like being a simp i think you're going to still be

00:27:22.840 into him yeah maybe who knows because i only know once you're in it i think a lot of women are

00:27:29.060 are uh like he obviously it would be great the guy you're attracted to the guy you want if he was all

00:27:36.340 over you but i think and this applies to both men and women but i think there is a component of

00:27:40.800 the guy you want doesn't want you and the guy that wants you you don't want him and that's like

00:27:48.100 basically like if there's one way i could describe what's going on in the dating landscape i think

00:27:53.640 that's a lot of what's going on totally that's why it was i didn't lose my virginity until i was 26

00:27:59.940 because i'd always be interested in someone they weren't interested in me or vice versa there's an

00:28:04.200 evolution in the relationship though the girl starts is my mic on i'm sorry what okay well the girl

00:28:11.060 starts off liking the guy a lot and the guy's really not into you but what happens is he ends

00:28:18.100 up being into you more that's the simp that you want not the one that starts off and i hate seeing

00:28:22.360 that terminology but that's the terminology we're all talking about they start off like brian was

00:28:27.940 saying and then they end up being the ones that are all over you or or being the simp personality and

00:28:33.880 that's that's the relationships that last not the ones that start off where he's like

00:28:38.740 yeah yeah that's the one that you say is cringe the one that you don't like and you end up

00:28:42.700 ditching him right it has to be a role reversal over time

00:28:45.940 yeah um but yeah uh i guess we can get into more of that but

00:28:53.520 but were you like going on like hanging out with guys or uh in college at all or not really

00:29:02.140 no okay no i mean there was one guy like you know was i wasn't really crushing on him but he was

00:29:10.420 like really pursuing me a lot so that was fun but nothing ever happened i teased him a lot

00:29:16.740 you teased what do you mean you teased him i'm just like you know i know yeah yeah yeah right just

00:29:23.700 flirting and um you know okay um and then you said you've been celibate for three years

00:29:31.780 so the guy from three years ago i guess how long were you seeing him

00:29:35.220 like a year wait a year yeah but you said two years and then yeah but he that was just that was

00:29:42.760 not just sex yeah for a year just sex for a year yeah question though for for all these guys that so

00:29:49.940 there was at least what you've told us so far there was a two year a seven month and a one year

00:29:54.740 yeah um has there been like do you want more or have you been satisfied with the situations as

00:30:04.440 they've been they're fun and that's you know like i don't have any expectations on like getting married

00:30:10.740 so i'm just looking for like a companion and um you know i'm a woman who has needs so you know so

00:30:19.160 but i'm not asking for you know to lock it down or anything you know but so at any point in any of

00:30:26.340 these situationships i guess we can call them yeah were you like seeking for a commitment well yeah

00:30:34.060 that was when i got my heart broken when i was 26 with olympian with the snowboarder and since then i

00:30:40.900 have like never allowed myself to like get that close a guy before but so you would initiate the what

00:30:48.480 what is this what are we never want to be my oh no you would you wouldn't have so you'd date people

00:30:54.140 for two years and not be like because i don't i don't want to no you don't you don't want to

00:30:58.020 only with him the first guy did i ever want anything more than just like a situationship and

00:31:05.260 right but that was the only one did you say do you want to be my boyfriend yeah exactly that's

00:31:10.060 exactly what happened i said i said look you're going into season like i want to definitely make

00:31:14.880 sure that we're together and you're not like hooking up with snow bunnies in different you know

00:31:20.460 parts of the you know oh literal snow yeah absolutely there you go so um and he was like

00:31:27.940 but i like things the way that they're going and i was like peace yep yeah wait so but this

00:31:33.660 conversation you had because you said you were with him for two years yeah well off and on for two

00:31:37.660 years yeah but so that happened at six months one year that happened at like two years of you waited

00:31:44.760 two years to have the what is this yeah because we only saw each other a few times like a month so

00:31:51.120 it wasn't like and we actually went we actually went i think it was like a year after the first time

00:31:57.100 that we were together we were talking a lot within a year but we didn't see each other until like

00:32:02.200 oh well that's new details okay so you're saying you guys hooked up had sex and then you didn't see

00:32:08.220 him again for a year for about a year yeah okay but we were talking like every what do you mean talking

00:32:14.480 like we were every day yeah for the most part when you say talking texting or calling texting calling

00:32:19.300 facetime yeah how often would you call um call i don't know this you're talking like over 10 years ago

00:32:25.980 uh just i mean probably like i mean we we talked every single day so facetime uh you know calling

00:32:34.180 or text i can't remember like how often but we did you know i don't know man that sounds like a lot of

00:32:42.120 work i don't know does it sounds like a lot of work it's weird though because on one hand

00:32:48.840 on one wait hold on why why though so you guys hooked up you had sex and then god my dad's watching

00:32:59.040 this shout out dad what's up uh w dad you you guys were talking every day yeah and then later on in

00:33:12.160 your situationship you started seeing each other more frequently yes correct why uh like

00:33:18.780 what was the delay in you'd have to ask him so he were you trying to be like hey what's up yeah

00:33:25.000 come down yeah totally yeah and it just took you were trying to get him to come to you either or

00:33:29.820 yeah and you're like hey let me come see you and he was oh he was fucking another girl yeah probably

00:33:34.900 but you just said you i i well i don't know i i believe him when he says no so but but i mean just

00:33:42.700 to put it very bluntly sure um but it's uh it we're my confusion here okay is

00:33:51.280 how much time per day i'm not at like i'm not looking for on average would you guys say you

00:33:58.920 spent talking like when you had a call when you had a face time 15 minutes 30 minutes maybe yeah

00:34:04.600 maybe an maybe an hour yeah you know condensed were you and you weren't seeing other guys at

00:34:10.000 this time no and you were making yourself available to him yes yeah that's interesting

00:34:16.680 yeah he might be young he's definitely you might have been the beard that's that i give that like

00:34:22.920 a three percent probability chance but it's in the back of my head sure as anything is possible i'm

00:34:27.900 trying to diagnose this situation yeah anything i mean i think that it's it is a bit peculiar on one

00:34:32.340 hand uh like if a guy's not trying to meet up with you i would i would be my my suspicion here is

00:34:42.440 why is he spending all this time even communicating right with you to begin with and then i would also

00:34:47.780 i guess ask you well i guess you i mean well i it makes a bit more sense in terms of your interest

00:34:54.560 but it why is he spending all this time communicating with a woman who he's not trying

00:35:02.460 to have sex with that's weird yeah not just but not even that he doesn't like moving sex out of

00:35:08.760 the picture he's not even trying to like spend time with you in person and hang out with you

00:35:12.480 when you're making yourself available to meet up with him or i have to i mean my i'm maybe jumping

00:35:18.220 to conclusions there's another woman in the picture or i are you cool like are you just

00:35:24.540 i don't know dude i don't think guys i'm very talk to women but the thing is i'm such a casual

00:35:30.400 person and like i'm not you're go with the flow i'm very go with the flow yeah so if i'm not putting

00:35:36.860 any like restraints or any guidelines on him like i don't want to continue talking unless x y and z

00:35:43.260 yeah you know i'm not doing that i'm just like yeah we enjoy talking to each other every single day

00:35:48.320 that's these back and forths that you would have whether text or call were you initiating that or

00:35:55.440 no it was always him it was yeah because i never because this guy doing well i never wanted to come

00:36:01.340 across thirsty or desperate especially because i lost my virginity to him i didn't want him to think

00:36:06.660 i was clingy or anything it actually got to a point where he was like i feel like you don't even care

00:36:11.220 because you never hit me up there but yeah well i'm not gonna i'm i don't care you know i i truly

00:36:17.180 don't and i'm not a thirsty person and i'm not you know clingy or desperate so i didn't want to come

00:36:23.440 across like that wait wait hold on i think i'm i'm i'm painting a picture here okay so he wait oh

00:36:32.800 question okay so you meet this guy what was the context of how you met him um i when i was in

00:36:39.720 hawaii with paramore i met some professional surfers and uh no kelly slater no no so uh john

00:36:48.660 no i think i've met john john at like a opening or something um no it was uh uh what makua

00:36:57.280 makua rothman girl girl surfers who's the other girl yeah uh lacy peterson no she's older a little

00:37:06.540 bit older coco ho yeah coco was a homie coco yeah yeah coco was a homie wait isn't she married to

00:37:12.500 the mma fighter uh i think well last i don't follow like gossip or you know tabloids or like anything

00:37:18.920 like that but the last time i remember she was married or not married to but dating uh another

00:37:24.960 snowboarder okay yeah the snowboarder boys and the surfer girls would hang out a lot isn't isn't uh

00:37:33.140 coco ho isn't she she might be married to ufc guy i'm trying to max all the way good for her wait

00:37:40.640 oh i'm thinking who am i thinking of i'm thinking of somebody else okay whatever okay um but yeah

00:37:47.100 through the girls i met him so he was in hawaii too no okay so when i was i got i knew the surfer

00:37:54.360 girls because when i was out there with paramore they took us to have like a lesson so i met kalia

00:38:00.660 who's a professional surfer um and uh weirdly enough she showed up at one of my friend's houses

00:38:07.900 and then i was like i know you from hawaii and then that's how it all like came about and then

00:38:13.660 she and i became pretty good friends and then through her i met the snowboarder boys so you met

00:38:18.340 him in person yeah oh yeah in california yeah yeah they all came down uh like for for coco's

00:38:24.940 birthday i think it was how soon after uh after you meet him do you guys have sex um it was a few

00:38:33.520 months of like talking and like you know facetiming and uh texting but were you guys seeing each other

00:38:41.900 in person we met we met in person person yeah i told the next time you meet in person is that when

00:38:48.840 you have sex yeah it was like um the x games it was that summer the warped tour yeah yeah i actually

00:38:55.240 used to work on warped tour how funny can i have you scoot the mic that way this way yeah okay yeah i

00:39:00.160 used to work on warped tour um but yeah they came out for uh x games and uh yeah so and we'd been

00:39:07.720 talking like steady a couple weeks prior to that when you first met him how long had you been uh

00:39:13.940 talking or how long were you guys talking two weeks two solid weeks of like back and forth uh texting

00:39:20.920 he you know planning he was coming out here we were going to link up and then you know okay so you

00:39:26.680 you're a virgin you meet this guy and then i mean basically your first date you yeah you did you tell

00:39:35.740 him you were a virgin yeah okay uh and what was his reaction when you told him that or i think he

00:39:42.400 cared yeah okay so wait like did you guys get dinner first or no no it was it was the war yeah well

00:39:49.820 geez my dad is watching and i w dad oh gosh um it was the warp tour it worked for it was the x games

00:39:58.280 kickoff party kickoff yeah so there was like a kickoff party with the athletes and the musicians

00:40:03.280 and stuff and it was that night and i i initiated it i said where are you staying and then we left

00:40:09.580 wait oh so he was competing yeah he wasn't competing because he's a winter uh athlete and this was summer

00:40:16.440 x games but he's like skateboarding yeah he gets invited to all that it's like so you know were you

00:40:21.620 did he invite you there as a date no i was already i i worked in music he was there yeah okay so i was

00:40:28.580 he was there you were there yeah and then um i asked him to leave so you meet up with him and

00:40:35.620 you're at the x games for 15 minutes no we were at the party for a few hours before i was like

00:40:40.580 let's get out of here and you so you go back to the hotel yeah and when you say you ask him to leave

00:40:46.560 or what you are you like excuse me sir do you want to engage in well he knew we had two weeks of

00:40:53.820 talking okay you guys were flirting yeah we knew like yeah you guys were flirting we were about the

00:40:58.200 business you know okay you know we already knew what was good what was gonna go down um so wait

00:41:04.180 were you guys like planning to hook up not planning but like we both it was unspoken that we both knew

00:41:09.440 we liked each other like he liked me i liked him and for the first time ever it was mutual and i've

00:41:14.660 never and then so you guys have sex one time yes and then you don't see him for a year yes

00:41:20.340 something like that god this was so long ago you only had sex one time or was there like a little

00:41:24.640 morning delight or something yeah yeah afternoon delight no i mean it was multi oh my god but okay

00:41:31.980 walk me through it walk okay walk me through it i don't want to expose i'm like no you're doing fine

00:41:37.360 you're doing totally fine it's okay there's like a little party at the x games after party whatever

00:41:42.340 you guys go back to the hotel do you guys do you spend the night yeah or he spends the night i spent

00:41:47.380 the night at his hotel and then do you guys like kick it that the next day or i mean i had my group

00:41:54.920 of friends he had his group of friends and because some of these events are multi-day yeah it was it

00:41:59.820 was like a three-day i think x game so you saw him you saw him every day i didn't see him every day

00:42:04.900 but like was it the first pads crossed first day yeah it was the first day so it was a three-day event

00:42:10.400 yes kickoff party you saw him the first day yeah and then you lose your virginity to him on the first day

00:42:15.300 yeah and then you don't see him for day two or day yeah i kind of avoided him you hold on whoa

00:42:21.160 again again i i didn't want to come across as clingy so when i do and this is this is a problem

00:42:28.200 that i've had in a lot of relationships i just will run the opposite direction i want to lose your

00:42:34.060 virginity at 26 and your instinct is to be like bounce yeah 100 yeah okay i'm out of there

00:42:41.200 therapy yes okay but not for this not for this okay um was he trying to meet up with you i don't

00:42:52.380 think so i can't remember i don't think so i mean i was rolling with my girls he was with his boys i

00:42:57.640 wasn't you know it wasn't um it wasn't anything crazy

00:43:01.000 wait didn't you say you were sure he wasn't hooking up with other girls that whole time though so you

00:43:08.960 don't think you know wherever he was for whichever event that he was you know just finding a girl

00:43:13.440 who's willing to you know go back to his hotel room true maybe um anything is possible but i

00:43:21.140 genuinely believe him is he married now uh yes rip um but um dang okay um was it like kind of freaky

00:43:33.380 um the no talking about the sex yeah because why is this dude like that like what like because you

00:43:43.060 said he might be gay three percent chance i don't know it's just like what's his reason i don't know

00:43:49.660 no i don't know i give that like a 33 chance yeah all right probability 3.33 is he older than you

00:43:56.620 younger by how much oh gosh um i think he was 22 i was 26 i took some milk wow okay don't i have to

00:44:08.560 be a mom cougar over here a little cougar wow this is an interesting it gets better but oh it gets

00:44:17.400 better wait it gets better okay here's what we're gonna do i want to introduce the other people but

00:44:22.460 we'll come back to it keep that's juicy keep going but uh wait hold on i know i'm a very confusing

00:44:32.120 you're saying it gets better yeah like good yeah oh but wait question are you religious

00:44:38.240 i'm i believe in something i just don't know exactly what but when you were 26 when you were

00:44:44.680 younger were you like anticipating waiting until marriage no no or you wanted to i wanted to yeah

00:44:50.820 you but i never hold on yeah you're you're you're an attractive lady living in southern california

00:44:56.700 where there's no shortage of men who will definitely have sex with you at ucla there's

00:45:00.780 no shortage of frat boys at ucla you were in a sorority at ucla yeah you wanted to have sex

00:45:07.020 what is the missing piece here i feel like there's a missing piece i like guys who don't like me or they

00:45:14.280 like me and i don't like them and that's always the way that it's been and for the first time

00:45:19.980 i finally found someone who liked me as much as i liked them and that's literally all it took

00:45:25.500 the olympian super awesome was he famous kind of no i mean but he was attractive and i thought he

00:45:35.380 was attractive but like you know didn't they're like every not everyone likes you know chocolate chip

00:45:41.680 ice cream you know like everyone's sure he likes different things okay yeah you know what i mean

00:45:46.540 like you might this whole panel might find him disgusting but i found him but you said you were

00:45:52.340 like really into him yeah so you yeah you have at up until that point the most intimate moment of

00:46:00.440 your life you lose your virginity to him well i guess we already went over this but your instinct was

00:46:06.540 to not try to see him again yeah well not actively not try to see him again but definitely not be like

00:46:13.660 when are we gonna hang out when are you coming back were you like were you like anxiously hey uh you

00:46:19.300 know uh what are you doing tonight well he lived six hours for that event oh i mean yeah i think

00:46:25.860 you're talking this is like god over 10 years ago but i'm sure i texted with him like what are your

00:46:32.080 plans tonight are you going to this event are you going to that i'm sure we had that kind of

00:46:35.860 communication but no it's hard i don't know i think a rule i think a rule um a guy rule okay

00:46:42.020 you know is if you took a take a woman's virginity at 26 at the x games you have to fuck her at least

00:46:50.660 two or three more times i think that's the rule i think that's the you know that's the rule it's a

00:46:54.800 law probably yeah well i think you got at least have sex with her two three he was um the the priority

00:47:00.180 was fun for him it was always like you know i i have to have fun and maybe i was like not

00:47:07.640 you know i was second on that list so it was like party party party okay well and then yeah yeah i

00:47:14.260 guess you see you know young guy yeah hanging out with his friend partying blowing down yeah

00:47:19.300 yeah so uh okay but then it gets worse or better or i don't know you said there's more i meant just

00:47:27.520 about like life in general but yeah oh yeah but you said there was more with him yeah

00:47:31.780 okay i'm gonna i'm gonna tread lightly on that one just to protect oh what do you mean did

00:47:39.060 just to protect people punch him or something no nothing violent no violence or no absolutely not

00:47:47.040 okay um well i'm gonna um how about you i'm gonna let this chat uh adzils thank you man uh and then

00:47:56.280 we'll get to the next the next why is it so loud adzils donated two hundred dollars yo brian

00:48:04.360 your favorite brit is back had to miss the last steam but saw felicity questioning the stupidity of

00:48:10.640 the muppets on the last panel chair for impressive stuff hashtag free felicity hashtag michael is king

00:48:18.060 yo adzils thank you for the message man really appreciate it thank you thank you um all right

00:48:23.140 what about you uh i'm currently in a relationship and then my longest one was like four or five years

00:48:30.020 kind of on and off uh currently in a relationship for the longest four to five years how long have you

00:48:35.260 been current uh like a year and a half almost all right uh what about you oh that was short

00:48:43.480 i have been with my husband since 2008 all right so that's he's my longest relationship how long have

00:48:53.620 you been together since 2008 oh i thought sorry i thought you meant you were married in no we were

00:48:59.580 married in 2012 together since 2008 so like married for about 13 years i'd say right kids yes four four

00:49:08.380 kids all right any kids from any other men or just no he's no he's the one gotcha uh all right what

00:49:16.100 about you uh well i've been seeing a guy for 15 months now but he doesn't want to call me his

00:49:25.660 girlfriend or anything you know so i'd say i've never had a boyfriend you know where someone

00:49:30.840 wanted to be committed to me maybe i just don't complain enough i'm just like okay and also i don't

00:49:37.440 care if i seem way too into somebody at all because i am i'm pretty desperate man you know at this point

00:49:43.140 i'm 33 but you're a desperate you're a desperate man no i i'm desperate man

00:49:48.460 did anybody else they know yeah i heard it i heard okay um no no i'm not i'm a female that's

00:49:58.280 fine um it would be fine if you were trans too um i was just you caught me off guard there with

00:50:04.240 the man thing um okay so 15 months and what's the longest period of time you've not had a boyfriend i

00:50:09.680 guess huh so what i mean is never but well you've seen guys but none of them have been your boyfriend

00:50:17.440 yes uh i'd say well the longest dry spell i had no no no no period of time seeing a guy

00:50:24.220 this one oh this one is the longest 15 months yeah okay but by far by far besides him but besides that

00:50:32.820 maybe there's a guy who's three months ish less than that three three months is the next longest

00:50:39.560 yeah okay and then after that it goes into one month less territory one night that sort of thing

00:50:46.240 yeah too many of those too too many of those okay yeah um and then so okay this current guy though

00:50:54.320 you've been seeing him for 15 months because when you responded to us on instagram you said

00:50:57.960 you're actually single when you responded i mean i would basically i am because he openly you know

00:51:07.480 is seeking out other girls i mean not even for a girlfriend he just you know likes to i don't know

00:51:17.760 just whoever is willing okay so you're um let me ask some clarifying questions here when you say

00:51:24.240 you've been with him for 15 months do you mean consecutively yes not on again off again okay i

00:51:29.820 count three months here now we've been there no we i mean anytime we do everything together you know

00:51:35.080 like really close friends would you know going out to ea going out doing activities movies things like

00:51:41.000 that and it's just commitment is hard for him for some reason which i don't get and i don't push the

00:51:48.320 issue so you've been seeing him for 15 months uh but do you push the attempt for exclusivity

00:51:57.380 nah uh i i suppose i don't you know i i let him know i'm not loving it you know if i find some

00:52:07.160 evidence he can be pretty sloppy about it one time i found a like a bra underwire i don't wear bras

00:52:13.820 with underwires just little things like that or else he's been watching some dvds you know which

00:52:19.420 is what he did the the night that we met you know he breaks out the dvds do you guys live together

00:52:24.540 no no we live in the same city like 15 minute drive okay um and so did he tell you from the get-go

00:52:35.280 okay so here's my understanding you're not seeing any other guys correct oh no not at all no not even

00:52:40.980 looking 15 months have you been with any other men no i haven't dated any other men no before him

00:52:46.520 i hadn't been with a guy in three years almost so you like physically or anything for three years

00:52:53.240 before yeah this guy okay um and then okay celibate for three years then you meet this guy

00:53:03.640 uh but did he tell you from the get-go that he wasn't going to be loyal to you basically he did

00:53:11.060 yeah i mean pretty much how soon like on the first date the first or second one of those so he told

00:53:17.160 you hey i'm not looking for anything serious yeah he did and you know i was kind of disappointed

00:53:22.400 because like right off the bat he i i mean he clicked with me with what i'm i kind of like in a

00:53:28.800 guy uh just that's really the only caveat with him you know even now it's just you know he's great

00:53:37.540 in every freaking way but this one big big thing yeah you know how often do you see him um i'd say

00:53:45.860 well it can depend on the week especially with um my schedule gets crazy um but it could be two or

00:53:53.280 three times a week but other times it can be like we'll go a week or two without seeing each other but

00:53:57.320 we try to you know anytime we're free and not exhausted from work people have busy lives you

00:54:03.160 have stuff going on he has stuff going on but on average you would say you see him two to three

00:54:07.620 times a week maybe some weeks less yeah and then some weeks more maybe is that fair to say yeah it's

00:54:14.380 as i think it's as often as we would both like to see each other when you guys do hang out are you

00:54:19.700 guys going out on dates or is it just come over to my house you go to his he goes to yours and you

00:54:25.220 guys hook up oh we definitely go out you know if i we just went and saw wicked too i'm gonna give him

00:54:31.940 major props for putting up with that i know that's that's boyfriend material right there who's willing

00:54:37.580 to do that yeah i mean if you're gonna see a the second version of a musical i think maybe we have

00:54:46.580 another beard situation here i don't know um that's that okay that's interesting um do you guys go to

00:54:52.720 the ballet too did you guys uh no that's as you know fruity as it gets for him i don't ask him

00:54:59.720 to do anything much more than that actually i i give i give a pass on like i'll tchaikovsky i'll allow it

00:55:06.800 um right but uh okay so and over time though it seems like you've continued to tell me if i'm wrong

00:55:17.640 here but you've continued to push for a relationship is that correct not pushing i would say i'm not

00:55:24.720 pushy in the least but like it's for me i still have that desire with him you know if he ever okay

00:55:30.280 but you say you find like do you find condoms or anything like that i haven't found a straight oh

00:55:36.060 okay but you found another woman definitely haven't found condoms but you found another woman's

00:55:40.840 underwear is that correct it was a bra underwire and i don't even own a bra that has an underwire

00:55:46.000 but in any case it was so funny you know he finds it on the side of his bed and he shows it to me

00:55:51.480 because he didn't know what the hell it was and he's like what is this is so weird like this round

00:55:56.140 u-shaped metal thing what could that even be for and i look at i'm like huh and i'm like huh

00:56:00.900 so like you don't you are you gonna just like keep talking to him even though he does that like i guess

00:56:08.440 i'm trying to understand if you're waiting yeah it's just because i mean we're not official and

00:56:13.940 and so he told me you know right off the bat so how much can i dock him for that you're not

00:56:21.440 scared of stds or like stuff like oh yeah oh yeah of course pregnant of course but that would be

00:56:27.180 my own dumb fault wouldn't it you know what i'm getting into so are you on birth control i am not

00:56:32.740 on birth control okay um should be i know so okay 15 months he uh you're you're basically in a one

00:56:44.800 directional you know you need directional open relationship open on his end closed on yours

00:56:49.880 is that fair to say just yeah as far as hold on question so has he closed it on your end or is it

00:56:59.040 open but you don't fuck other men and i asked him you know just jokingly i'd be like what would you

00:57:05.560 think if i you know got with the guy would not like i'm not talking about an actual person that i

00:57:10.380 know in real life but if we're watching a video i'm like hey he's pretty hot what would you think i

00:57:13.660 if i you know slid into his dms he's like no uh-uh and i'm like wait so you wouldn't be okay with me

00:57:19.460 even just like having a nothing hookup that would led to nothing he's like oh heck no all right so

00:57:26.060 yeah yeah one directional ish it's it's okay it's it's open on his end closed on your end um

00:57:34.100 basically is my understanding yeah and i would say you know in the beginning for the first maybe

00:57:42.180 even the first half so you know seven months or so i just like wasn't looking at dudes whatsoever

00:57:47.860 you know they might as well not exist you know just looking at my phone if i'm walking down the

00:57:52.360 street even though i live in a big college town not that i get with college dudes but i'm just saying

00:57:57.040 there's like a lot of young guys who

00:57:58.740 but so there's guys there's plenty of options out there but i'm not i wasn't looking till maybe like

00:58:08.940 now on the second half of this i'm like yeah i'm looking a little bit still haven't done anything

00:58:14.920 you know i haven't gone on a date with another guy let alone more than that

00:58:19.720 so are you can oh did i was just gonna ask where would you rank your self-esteem

00:58:25.440 you know it's higher than you think uh i think my uh self-respect how i treat myself

00:58:33.980 is lower than that so i know but okay so you've never had a boyfriend yeah okay um

00:58:44.720 and uh can you describe the guy you're currently dating

00:58:49.300 like what physically uh looks and oh he's he's very very attractive to me i think he's a real

00:58:58.920 cutie pie wait he's attractive to sorry did you say to you yeah he's attracted or attractive

00:59:06.940 attractive you know he's easy on the eyes in my opinion and you know i usually don't care for work

00:59:13.720 oh he is oh i don't want to get too specific i guess i'll he's just okay he's an engineer

00:59:19.960 engineer that's yeah does he make good money he does um six figures low of six figures

00:59:26.980 okay uh and then how tall is he uh he's over six tallest guy i've ever you know been with at all

00:59:37.800 you know i i like i love my short kings so as long as they're you know for me it's five foot

00:59:43.880 four is my minimum of him that i don't care at all you know i prefer someone who's like closer to me

00:59:49.480 so i don't go to my tippy toes but i don't mind stepping on my tippy toes for him so he's six foot

00:59:55.400 one six foot two i think it's six one i think it's one six foot one yeah white black latino asian

01:00:03.220 oh he's white and a little bit lebanese but he looks like a white dude dark haired i'm lebanese

01:00:09.400 oh cool yeah oh gosh you guys are a good looking race huh jeez i appreciate um why do you think it

01:00:18.060 is you've never uh well you find yourself in this current situation but also you've never been able

01:00:23.840 to have a boyfriend have there been men who have been who you uh believed would have wanted a

01:00:31.100 relationship with you but you didn't want a relationship with them there is a couple i know

01:00:37.120 definitely you asked me but it's just i when i was younger i cared like i would date kind of ish

01:00:49.180 guys who i wasn't necessarily like super physically attracted to but i liked them i'm like it would be

01:00:55.440 wrong to you know get in a relationship like that if i'm just not that sexually into them even

01:01:01.560 though i would do it with them but i'm just thinking you know after a while you know that's

01:01:06.100 gonna be like you know like uh it might get to i don't know um i i think honestly it's because i was

01:01:17.340 such a late bloomer i didn't lose my v card until i was 20 and so things were just really slow moving

01:01:25.680 after that i feel feel like i was just really behind you know from other people okay um

01:01:32.280 uh there's something kind of i we have two women on the panel here who have somewhat similar

01:01:39.560 of a predicament to some degree yeah i know it's a predicament um and you know i'd say

01:01:44.640 for me like my standards for dudes i mean as evidenced by what i just told you about the guy

01:01:51.000 that i'm dating my bar is in hell i mean practically i don't ask for much at all i'm not gonna i'm not

01:01:57.320 gonna you know nag you about anything whatsoever just like yeah yeah whatever you want just take it

01:02:02.860 day by day when's the last time you saw this guy like you it was a night yeah night right before i

01:02:09.960 flew out over here okay all right uh i want to ask a question related to this going around the table

01:02:18.620 starting with you would you rather be the king's mistress or the peasant's wife probably the peasant's

01:02:28.320 wife peasant's wife peasant's wife peasant's wife into the mic scoot it wait has the mic been shifted

01:02:34.700 nick it looks shifted scoot it that way two inches am i moving don't worry about it go ahead okay uh

01:02:41.380 okay um i don't want okay fine king king's mistress king's mistress okay i have commitment issues

01:02:49.020 peasant's wife peasant's wife oh my god hell i'll be the peasant side piece

01:02:56.060 yeah there you go yeah yeah the peasant side

01:03:01.580 okay good one um okay interesting um question for you though has there have you ever had um

01:03:13.500 i mean almost how do i want to frame this uh

01:03:19.640 i mean everybody's rejected people right but um have you ever had any guys who

01:03:29.860 did want a relationship with you but you didn't want anything with them like when we're already

01:03:36.340 casually seeing each other and then they want to step it up um no not necessarily or just someone

01:03:43.460 who has a crush on me not somebody you've i sure i guess i mean if they did i'm i've been completely

01:03:51.980 clueless i've probably missed out on so many guys i tend to be on the shy side and or just clueless

01:03:59.020 as far as that's concerned i don't know i'm not good at reading signals in that way

01:04:03.940 do you want kids um you know i like them um i i wouldn't say i'm closed off from it it's never

01:04:15.980 been something like where i thought oh i want to be a mother i need to be a mother i could be a step

01:04:21.240 mom i'd be so down to you know be a step mom even if a couple kids

01:04:25.100 leave a lot in common yo oatmeal uh thank thank you for making the order appreciate it uh send um

01:04:36.220 send send a dm to uh send a dm we'll we'll get you some swag um thank you okay so that's crazy

01:04:44.980 that's crazy y'all crazy man um shit i mean look the reality is when you uh where where's the

01:04:58.620 incentive for a guy to commit because i think look i'm just be honest not all men are going to move

01:05:04.480 like this but i think if you ask most men and i think a lot of men you can ask your boyfriend you

01:05:10.140 could ask a guy you're seeing they might lie to you but just being honest i think the case is

01:05:15.420 you ask most men look if you're dating a great girl but she's fine with you sleeping with other

01:05:21.640 women and she'll stay with you i think most men take that deal and some of y'all enable this kind

01:05:27.580 of behavior though when you agree to that kind of dynamic it's like you can't sit i mean the guy's

01:05:33.100 not cheating on you because he was up front with you right i think it's one thing obviously cheating

01:05:37.800 is wrong but in this case you might object to the you know the unequalness of your arrangement

01:05:43.860 but you agreed to the arrangement in this case i think uh you're not this guy just is essentially uh

01:05:52.660 and look you you're in a consensual dynamic he's been up front but he's just using you for sex

01:06:00.740 i wouldn't say that i don't feel that way at all because i mean

01:06:06.320 dang i don't want to say this when a bunch of people are watching like my co-workers and watch

01:06:10.740 this but um okay i i like doing it too i think i enjoy it as much as he does just not with random

01:06:17.560 people that i don't flip and know look there's there's no dispute that that uh i don't think my

01:06:25.320 argument here is that women dislike having sex or don't enjoy having sex i think sex is a mutual

01:06:32.920 uh mutually beneficial enjoyable thing in fact i frequently argue that when it comes to sex actually

01:06:39.940 women well i guess it depends on the woman y'all be having multiple orgasms and shit like y'all

01:06:46.180 sex is better for you guys we're doing all the work too what the fuck um so i don't know whatever so

01:06:52.080 uh i kind of feel like you're a placeholder for him that's not what he said you know recently he's

01:07:01.300 just saying how i'm such a unicorn you know i'm perfect and stuff you know the only thing for him

01:07:06.220 is like we he just mentioned kids you know he wants kids for sure with you he would he says he would

01:07:15.900 i'm like uh i think we're a couple you know we got a couple more steps maybe are you religious

01:07:20.200 i don't follow a religion but uh yeah yeah he goes to church and even bible study and stuff

01:07:27.200 oh no wait wait wait wait wait no no i when i said i'm not religious i believe in god it's just i

01:07:33.520 haven't like picked a book it's not that we're talking about the other thing yeah uh so he's christian

01:07:38.480 does he go to a non-denominational church i don't even know which one it is wait you've been dating

01:07:43.620 guy for 15 months and he goes to church all the time and you don't know he reads the bible man that's

01:07:48.040 all i know is he protestant catholic not not one of those oh jehovah's witness oh gosh no no no no i

01:07:56.960 could uh maybe just i don't know some kind of christian i don't think an orthodox guy is

01:08:02.260 i also don't think so um okay that's interesting um

01:08:07.840 shit i'm trying to process everything i'm i'm really trying to wrap my head around you said

01:08:15.260 he's is he conservative too yes yes oh very much so okay and i am too but not as much as he is i mean

01:08:23.840 goodness yeah does he make you public whenever he's with are you a secret or are you somebody that i

01:08:30.740 mean they want to see wicked side in the dark in a theater that's something you oh oh he's kind of

01:08:36.800 claiming her a little bit well i mean no he go out to restaurants and stuff like like i said no i

01:08:42.520 mean his mom knows about me his best i've spent thanksgiving with him and his best friend um and

01:08:49.120 their wife and their kid so i mean no it's okay so he's not why won't he commit to you

01:08:55.920 because he because of kids because she doesn't oh no no no he didn't even ask that till maybe

01:09:01.900 two months ago i think he was kind of afraid to even know the answer so i i mean i don't think he

01:09:08.400 could use that as an excuse even because he didn't know what was the reason he gave you for not wanting

01:09:12.860 a relationship um he told me and this is the only time i really asked for an answer for that reason

01:09:22.660 is is because the he said the next girl that he calls his girlfriend officially that's going to

01:09:29.500 be the chick he's going to marry oh there you go wait he told you that placeholder wait wait sorry

01:09:35.240 repeat that one more time he told her without telling her she's not the one yeah that's not

01:09:40.340 how i took it at all i took it as um okay so he's not ready to call someone his girlfriend yet

01:09:48.400 because when he finally does that uh you know well first of all when he calls this girl his girlfriend

01:09:53.700 uh he's not gonna he's gonna be like not sleeping with other chicks and but he's not ready to not

01:09:59.440 be sleeping with other chicks you know what i'm saying so tell him what you like okay the next the

01:10:05.500 next chick the next woman that i call my girlfriend you know is going to be the woman that i'm going to

01:10:12.460 marry keyword next right yes meaning not you that's not how i took it i feel like he no i feel

01:10:20.140 like he was saying that he when he calls me when he starts calling me his girlfriend that you know

01:10:26.840 that's it here i'll break it down super simple okay so if i was uh let's let's say i'm married or

01:10:33.320 whatever and i tell my wife the next woman i have sex with would that mean her yes no no no i mean

01:10:41.900 just english language or whatever next next would imply like secondary somebody else after he's not

01:10:48.380 talking i don't think he's talking about you he he was i could i don't care that much jeez i don't

01:10:53.840 care if we were forever or like i after a year and a half men usually know yeah before it doesn't

01:11:01.660 even take a year before it takes yeah like after a couple months they know and that's why i was saying

01:11:06.360 like me saying that you're kind of a placeholder it's not even like to be an insult or anything it's

01:11:10.980 just like the reality i think of your situation that i i don't think you're fully grasping like

01:11:16.880 i don't want to use the word delusional but it's like a little bit you know i'm saying and it's okay

01:11:22.220 it's okay delusion is way nicer than reality but i'm not even trying to get him to be my boyfriend

01:11:27.720 so it's not like i'm trying to hold on to some hope that doesn't exist i don't care and that's

01:11:34.140 that's actually sad i think that's worse i mean for one uh i don't i don't know i'm i'm not i don't

01:11:42.080 feel like i'm emotionally invested in him in that way because just because then why are you meeting

01:11:47.100 his family yeah and why are you why are you being faithful mom and he just you just said that she

01:11:52.300 he's told her no no no no his his best friend and his wife yeah yeah they met at work like uh his

01:12:01.640 best friend so what is your goal with him then what what is the end goal there is no end goal

01:12:06.200 so she's not so you're not a placeholder i don't know i haven't decided i haven't decided i don't

01:12:13.600 think that far ahead i mean not to me nothing is that serious well you're dating this man who is

01:12:21.680 seeing other women and has told you when i find my next girlfriend that's going to be my wife

01:12:27.340 no well no more more like i would die if someone said that to me i would cry once he's he's saying

01:12:34.120 once he commits to whatever chick whether it's me or someone else then that's that's it it's gonna

01:12:41.220 be for real for real girlfriend so you're just hoping that it's you in this lineup no i don't care

01:12:47.880 i'm not saying it could be it couldn't be i get you i i understand where you're coming from okay i

01:12:53.800 someone does yeah i guess what i'm trying to understand is how like you're being monogamous

01:13:01.040 to him like you're being faithful to him but like but yeah you're not but yet you're not like

01:13:07.780 invested emotionally i guess it's just like not necessarily aligning logically right okay so i i

01:13:15.580 okay i have been monogamous to him but it's not like something i'm even it's just kind of happened

01:13:21.580 that i haven't seen anybody or met anybody that i want to sleep with or been interested in that way

01:13:26.380 if i did then that'd be a different story it just hasn't happened you know so so if you're not the

01:13:32.380 next girlfriend then what are you going to do after that i'd be looking a little harder more closely

01:13:38.560 looking for what i don't know just other dudes for what to start to start dating for what because i

01:13:46.000 mean i want to find a husband well no i don't think you want to find a husband okay because then

01:13:52.300 you would have an end game you're saying if i'm not the next no that is the end game but i i don't

01:13:57.160 know who it's going to be with or when it's going to be or how that's going to start out someone

01:14:02.360 sometime i'm not that worried about it i'm not i mean it'll happen when it's meant to be it'll be

01:14:07.280 the right person so it sounds like you really don't want to get married that's literally not what i

01:14:13.360 said i just said i want to get married you don't think that whenever it happens i feel like there's

01:14:18.120 like some backtracking going on here because you said that you were monogamous to him and he was like

01:14:24.120 your dream guy but that it was open on his no i didn't say he is my dream guy he's just like

01:14:29.940 like the perfect guy in general like of what i like but you don't want to marry him yeah and you

01:14:36.580 like men who sleep with other women and make you be faithful yeah and i said that was that one

01:14:43.940 issue that one big caveat that really sucks that's huge especially like well that's why i'm not that

01:14:50.200 that you know messed up about him not calling me you know his girlfriend i'm just taking it day by day

01:14:57.420 i mean it's it's not that serious it could i hope it is you know not too long she doesn't want to find

01:15:03.520 a husband you said you want to get married eventually no i don't whatever she says she

01:15:08.200 knows me best i'm i know what you've said and you you don't want to get married and i think i'm not

01:15:13.820 trying to be rude but the word she used delulu delusional with whatever she said and i'm not and

01:15:18.840 she wasn't trying to label you i think perhaps because so because i'm into those waters because i

01:15:24.820 i don't i'm not sure if i want to get married to this first guy that i'm kind of like actually

01:15:28.760 dating in my life again i'm 33 you said you've been with him for 15 months yeah you said that

01:15:33.980 if he doesn't pick you as the next girl that he said he would want to marry you would just move on

01:15:36.840 and do this again i don't care but no that's what you said right well like okay if someone has it has

01:15:42.360 a goal they're usually working their way to achieve it so there's no point in like dicking around with

01:15:48.440 some guy for a year and a half two years whatever if you don't plan on marrying him if that's your goal

01:15:54.600 you know like i feel like it to us it sounds like so i've got to be on it all the time no you don't

01:16:00.100 i don't know i'm like i'm open to it i mean of course i want to get married and i'm open to some

01:16:07.780 guy you know walking into my life it just hasn't happened in the past 15 months it's just this one

01:16:13.640 guy that i'm seeing that's what i'm doing no we're not saying you have to do that we're saying

01:16:18.100 your logic you're saying you want to get married eventually but you're just like

01:16:21.820 fucking around with this guy you're not taking him seriously but you want to get a husband

01:16:26.480 eventually yeah i think that you guys are kind of each other's placeholder because y'all are bored

01:16:31.020 that's fine yeah but that i'm not trying to be like hopeful but that could it could eventually turn

01:16:38.060 into you guys falling in love i mean when people are right like back in the day when you used to like

01:16:43.280 match make like your parents would set you up with like a husband or whatever you might not love

01:16:48.220 them you might despise them but then after years and years of marriage and children you end up loving

01:16:53.320 that person so you might technically be a placeholder and in fact both of you guys are

01:16:57.920 placeholders in each other's lives right now but that doesn't mean that it can't grow into something

01:17:02.540 deeper and more serious that doesn't that's not what we're really saying i think it's just like

01:17:07.600 i don't care what she does in her life she could be single forever and or she could get married right

01:17:11.120 now i don't care it's just like her goal like what she's saying she wants to achieve

01:17:14.880 her actions currently are not aligning yeah that's what that's essentially what i've been

01:17:18.800 trying to say too it's like your actions and then the things that you kind of say

01:17:23.380 they crisscross a lot because she didn't even say what you said i'm hoping that i will win him over

01:17:29.960 over time he will fall in love with me later on she didn't say that she has no goals she has no plan

01:17:34.920 she's just what if he dumps me he dumps me with him i don't know when you're 37 and then when you're

01:17:40.680 40 and then you're 41 and then when you're 52 and then what then what i mean what is your goal

01:17:44.860 that's what i'm saying maybe i'll get married late in life i don't know but how do you think marriage

01:17:49.140 happens you think you just get married you find a guy then you pick him don't men decide marriage

01:17:53.900 yes yeah so again i don't want to harp on you but i don't know i'm just you know i'm just doing it

01:18:03.540 with basically my best friend right now and i wish that he would have been my boyfriend early on but

01:18:08.040 then i you know it's i don't know if that's gonna happen yeah but see that's where i'm saying like

01:18:12.320 with the things you say versus your it's just very interesting because on one side you're like i don't

01:18:17.180 really care if me and him become super serious but then you say stuff like but i wish we would have

01:18:23.160 became like i wish he was my boyfriend or and you and you actually know early on yeah but and you

01:18:30.000 actually said that you if he was down to be your boyfriend and committed now you would accept it you

01:18:35.840 you said that did i say that yeah i think the main point everyone's trying to get across is that

01:18:43.080 we think that you deserve better you know because i i personally wouldn't want to be in that situation

01:18:47.700 i don't think anyone else would be so we're trying to just make it in a situation where we think you

01:18:52.300 deserve better we think you can find better yes that's literally the point when it comes to dating

01:18:55.920 you're acting like an npc okay maybe i am that yeah i accept it i don't know you gotta you want

01:19:04.960 more for yourself maybe i know i do i want to be married someday i'll i'm gonna feel like i've

01:19:11.420 completely wasted my life if i'm not married someday i'm just not i'm not i don't have a timeline

01:19:17.740 on that whatsoever timeline that's fine all right i don't know are you happy we're gonna understand

01:19:29.380 each other yeah in life yes okay then just in general in life i feel like i could be happier

01:19:35.300 though do you think like if you like put yourself out they're more like go to like different events

01:19:40.080 and stuff yeah that's the thing that i don't do and she said just closed off just like i got

01:19:45.260 i've been i'm busy i keep myself busy with work i like to sleep a lot i you know i definitely

01:19:52.300 should be going out and doing stuff just haven't pulled the trigger on that yet you know i definitely

01:19:57.740 think he's taking advantage of you for sure like i said i like doing it so but it has nothing it's

01:20:04.320 a beneficial thing it's not even about like the sex it's just like the fact that you are so

01:20:09.780 complacent with his behavior and he doesn't feel any sort of guilt is a huge representation of his

01:20:16.760 like sense of character and even how faithful and even how faithful he is to christ because

01:20:22.780 oh yeah like a man a man who believes in god is very different than a man who fears god and he does

01:20:30.540 not fear god i completely agree with you on that like he contradicts himself even more than i do

01:20:37.000 contradicts myself i i mean like he does he goes to freaking bible study and he can't keep it in his

01:20:43.060 pants even isn't that pretty freaking basic have you taken you to bible study with him i haven't asked

01:20:48.480 to go i mean if i did he he would it's just he's waiting for you to lead him on that i don't know

01:20:56.160 i haven't talked to him about you know his religion and things well it sounds like he's not really

01:21:03.240 taking it seriously i mean does it sound like i am not really no but it's like it sounds like

01:21:10.620 you're getting used we're so nearly on the same page so wait one thing let's try not to talk over

01:21:16.380 each other because it's bad for the audio um but it sounds like you're being used a bit and i think

01:21:21.400 that's the point that we're trying to get across even if you don't care and you doesn't care that's

01:21:24.460 just i guess what we're all trying to say and we think you deserve better yeah like we're trying

01:21:29.320 to get you to see like he's he's what he's doing is just so not okay and you accepting it

01:21:34.980 you're so not okay that's the part that's not okay yeah i'll think about it ladies i'll think about

01:21:40.420 it some that's a start right well i have a question for you guys name a continent starting with you

01:21:50.820 africa okay europe antarctica america which one north south well you're supposed to say one

01:21:59.680 huh next yeah speaking to the night into the mic please antarctica well right antarctica was already

01:22:05.700 said who said that me sorry there's a couple more the americas okay well you have to pick one

01:22:13.820 north america okay oh gosh south america okay next australia okay next there's one did anyone say

01:22:22.020 asia yet no asia okay okay name three countries starting with you oh gosh um italy ireland

01:22:29.120 france okay no repeating by the way montenegro north macedonia moldova okay chad chile and haiti

01:22:37.560 u.s um oh my god it's so crazy i know that i know that but being put on the spot is so crazy

01:22:47.020 um three countries brazil the u.s new zealand okay oh my gosh oh man it's so crazy like you know it

01:22:57.380 yeah and i don't i just don't think about it on a consistent basis but okay colombia um

01:23:04.360 uh portugal um turkey okay questionable questionable those are countries okay next uh nigeria algeria

01:23:22.200 morocco okay um japan uh let's see someone say paraguay i think very very random one

01:23:34.340 thing i'm gonna have to be last there's so many okay uh canada okay um what's 34 plus 66

01:23:44.820 oh come on everybody are going in order 100 one at a time it's 100 i'm not good at math at all like

01:23:54.400 100 really oh she said it she said it yeah you're supposed to go in order but she did hear it

01:24:06.980 because she repeated it oh yeah um you gotta you gotta make it clear one well i said that i said

01:24:13.520 that no you gotta be like you you you i think it was understood i think she just said it

01:24:18.880 yeah i'll try better harder okay um you got her in trouble yeah yeah you got me in trouble

01:24:29.360 can you pick different numbers two different numbers okay no i'm gonna find brian where's my

01:24:37.360 questions you want me to just do these ones what is the minimum yearly income

01:24:45.440 what is the yearly minimum income for your husband or you'd want to be for your husband

01:24:49.920 would want to be for my husband yeah um like 100k okay 45 000 okay 100k i don't care at all 10k

01:25:06.560 yeah five i mean employed you know i'm employed yeah so you can make 1k

01:25:14.480 okay sure okay probably like 80 to 100 average okay you said minimum right minimum yes about 100

01:25:25.600 okay next um employed but i'm just thinking even if it's minimum wage for whatever state we live in

01:25:34.240 that's fine so it's like 60k here i think are you from california uh i live in oklahoma oh i don't

01:25:43.280 know it's it's not their minimum wage actually yeah it's like seven seven yeah not the actual

01:25:48.320 minimum wage everybody pretty much everybody gets paid 15 now though you know even at mcdonald's so

01:25:53.120 that that 15 hour whatever that equates to okay how tall are you and what is the minimum height of

01:25:58.960 a man you would date five four and probably minimum height i mean i've dated shorter but probably five

01:26:06.320 eight now okay i'm five three and five nine would be my minimum okay i'm five five five eight would be

01:26:13.840 my minimum five five and six foot is my minimum okay five three i'm okay with like five ten and up at

01:26:24.240 least okay next i'm six foot and i'm married and have a husband so i don't even know how to answer this

01:26:31.120 question how tall yeah how tall is your husband like six one okay so you guys are like the same

01:26:38.080 in height almost okay next uh i'm five two and i mean the shortest guy i've been with was five four

01:26:45.120 and i mean that's yeah to the fine height for me so okay uh this this is like looks different um

01:26:54.960 would you rather cross paths with a random man or a random bear on a hike a bear okay i'll come

01:27:02.160 back to you a man a man a bear a man i struggle with this hypothetical and it's not for the reasons

01:27:12.640 that you think i i can do i could do any hypothetical this one's just really hard for me to get an answer

01:27:17.920 so i can i pass or no just say it i i don't know close your eyes and say it and i'm not scared of men

01:27:24.400 and i'm i don't i how are you gonna fight a bear i would love the bear i would watch it i would just

01:27:30.240 let's get her answer yes okay a man okay so you you you said bear i didn't really say bear i i you

01:27:39.360 said you didn't say man though you didn't say man so i just i just need more information when it comes

01:27:47.040 to this it's like totally random you're on a hike think of like a like random hike trail okay

01:27:53.840 i'm thinking time when you typically go hiking okay and you see would you rather see a man

01:27:59.680 crossing your path or a baby oh a man absolutely right yeah yeah so you guys understood the

01:28:05.280 hypothetical right and you still pick bear so why why do you pick bear i mean i've seen a lot of stuff

01:28:10.960 like online like attacks on like women and stuff and it honestly like bear attacks not bear attacks

01:28:16.480 like attacks like man and woman like you know that stuff and it's like it's scary it's disturbing and

01:28:23.280 stuff and it's like i don't know the hypothetical of like a man or a bear i feel like i don't know just

01:28:29.840 i personally would rather do the bear i don't i you never know what a man can do you know well you

01:28:35.120 know what a bear can do for sure i know what a bear can do i don't know what a man can do i think

01:28:38.480 that's the scary part you don't you never know what a man can do but you know what a bear can do

01:28:41.840 well i mean we pass men on the street every day and it's like imagine one of those is who you're

01:28:47.040 passing by it's like he's not gonna do anything because they don't do anything when you pass by

01:28:52.320 them typically yeah but if you're alone like on a hike have you been on a hike before i've been on

01:28:58.880 a hike okay did you pass anyone yeah like men yeah but if i were like alone on a hike in like

01:29:05.040 the dark then that's not the dark yeah and what and it's like she painted the picture yeah and then

01:29:10.880 one of the the last time i was on here the girls were like well what if i was hiking at 3 a.m and

01:29:15.840 in my head i'm not gonna do that it's like if you're hiking at 3 a.m you're kind of part of the

01:29:20.720 problem at that point like i don't want to hike when it's dark i want to hike when like the sun is out

01:29:26.240 and i can see the the sun shining through the trees and it's beautiful like

01:29:30.400 dark you know what i'm saying yeah i mean i mean in my hometown there was an incident where like a

01:29:37.040 girl was on a hike and she did get attacked by a guy so i think that's why i personally picked the

01:29:41.360 bear because it's like that's like something that really close happened to me so you know i feel like

01:29:47.600 those did we have an explanation for why why do you pick there because i love animals oh i love men too

01:29:55.120 but i like really love animals do you think that a bear would love you okay how about that what if

01:29:59.680 we change it like saber-toothed tiger or man oh that would be so cool um so die or die or man

01:30:05.920 are we getting attacked by the animal or is it just passing by can we watch it there are certain

01:30:10.560 animals that are more aggressive than others i think bears can leave you alone but also they would

01:30:16.560 attack you i mean what what if we just change it to polar bear which are insanely aggressive

01:30:21.280 i would be very still and then i'd watch it and i think that would probably be the coolest experience

01:30:28.720 of my life and get i obviously wouldn't want to be attacked by it so i would choose a man if the

01:30:34.480 attack was imminent but well no so in this in the scenario it's whole in the same way that you don't

01:30:40.000 know what the man will do you don't know what the bear will do so it's possible the bear does nothing

01:30:44.240 it's possible the man does nothing it's possible the man does something it's possible the bear

01:30:47.520 does dude i would take my chances with a bear because if not it's the coolest experience yeah

01:30:52.800 if not it's the coolest experience of my life watching the bear and if not i got you've been

01:30:56.720 to the x games and the warp tour what the seeing a bear is going to be i love animals i don't know

01:31:02.800 i love animals so i'd love to i'd love to what about if it was in an elevator then a man okay so what

01:31:10.000 changes um my ability to escape i can't outrun a bear i know that but why do you think you need to

01:31:15.760 escape do you think the man's gonna hurt you no not at all so so then why are you picking the

01:31:21.280 because i can outrun a man i can't outrun it okay but why do you think you need to outrun him to begin

01:31:25.600 with if i needed to i could which is why if if i were being attacked by a bear i could not outrun it

01:31:34.800 so i would die but if i were being attacked by a man i have i more than likely would so you think

01:31:39.840 there's a chance the man will attack you no i think you and brian should race

01:31:46.080 nice like a foot race yeah you said you you could outrun a man i want to see we have a message here

01:31:52.160 from metro matt chair for tell your ex danny i love his snowboarding stuff danny i that's not his name

01:31:59.360 but um okay they're trying they're trying to find i guess i don't know yeah yeah that's funny

01:32:06.800 awkward uh okay um so okay i i'm not going to linger too long on this bear thing but just really

01:32:14.960 quick um i guess at least for you is there a component of well yes both the man and the bear

01:32:22.480 could kill me and even if it is the case that the bear there's a higher probability that a i guess on

01:32:27.600 a per capita basis uh that the bear is more likely to kill me than a man the man if he was malevolent

01:32:34.720 would like torture me rape me etc is that kind of part of the calculus yeah is and i don't know if

01:32:40.800 you're just trolling with that i like bears or whatever no i if anyone who's who knows me knows

01:32:44.960 i've i'm a huge animal lover like i really love animals a lot more than i do people to the mic um

01:32:53.040 um well i get i i also enjoy animals but i don't do so at my own peril so in this case

01:33:03.920 i'm a bit confused uh there are environments in which you can encounter animals

01:33:09.680 not in the wild in this case you opt to in the wild encounter a wild bear over like some dude who's

01:33:19.040 also on the hike i didn't know it was going to be this deep but okay then i would definitely

01:33:24.000 choose a man then i would a bear but i think that would be such a cool experience

01:33:29.280 okay um well i guess on the bear thing really quick um so you to be clear though your answer

01:33:36.720 is definitively bear yeah okay um if i reframe the question a little bit and can i ask you

01:33:43.120 you've heard anecdotes i think you mentioned there was a story in your hometown where a woman was

01:33:50.160 assaulted or something right uh terrible thing right absolutely terrible thing um and there's no

01:33:55.920 dispute or doubt that these things absolutely happen to women they happen all the time

01:34:00.480 um and it's a terrible thing um and then you might also say well men you know we don't know much

01:34:09.040 about bear well we know some about bears but you would say that well there's crime statistics as

01:34:14.880 it relates to you know men perpetrate this crime at this frequency is that fair to say yeah okay um

01:34:23.760 do you think or would you have issue then like if somebody were to change it uh and again this isn't

01:34:30.160 just to be clear throwing out this is a hypothetical to test the logic uh this isn't my position i feel

01:34:37.680 like it's fair i give that uh that uh what's the term for it whatever it doesn't matter uh if we were

01:34:45.920 to change the scenario and we were to change it to uh we were to ask a white person would you rather

01:34:52.960 come across a bear or a black person and the person picks bear instead of black person would you think

01:35:03.120 that that sort of response would be indicative of some racist sentiment i mean i feel like there's

01:35:10.240 always like those like rooted things and stuff it's like they're gonna pick something because they

01:35:15.360 don't want to like come off as like offensive or anything even though that's not their like no but

01:35:20.240 they they pick the bear yeah over the black person they'd say oh oh oh i see what you mean yeah they're

01:35:26.560 like no no no oh i don't want to be i i don't want to come across somebody on a high on a hike i pick

01:35:33.440 the bear would if you heard that answer given would you jump to well that sounds kind of racist i feel

01:35:42.880 like there's like a little like tweak in like everyone's brain or at least majority of people's

01:35:48.000 brain that would like be like hmm like why why'd they why'd they pick the bear why would they pick the

01:35:52.240 bear exactly but like they didn't have it probably didn't i've i personally wouldn't want it to come

01:35:59.280 across that way obviously but i feel like those systemic racisms and stuff like that were like

01:36:04.800 decades ago and like still exist to this day and you know well yeah i don't there's no dispute that

01:36:10.240 racism still exists but would you think not saying you would pick that i'm saying say there's another

01:36:16.400 person at this table and i asked that question and they answered like i you may very well be like

01:36:22.160 no of course i'd rather come across a black person yeah um but if somebody else answered bear

01:36:27.520 over coming across a black person would you think that's a bit problematic

01:36:35.120 sorry i'm thinking i

01:36:39.840 i mean i wouldn't say it's problematic i don't think so i mean like i'm looking at it at the same

01:36:45.440 rate you know a man versus like like a white man versus like a black man i feel like it's he didn't say

01:36:51.200 man he's a black person black person okay then yeah so the i would think of it a little bit

01:36:56.800 differently right the reason that the the it's not that it's a man like in this scenario it could be

01:37:02.400 just a black person yeah a black woman or a black man and it's not the fact that it could there's a

01:37:09.280 50 chance it could be a black man the determination is not on gender the determination is on uh race

01:37:16.800 so under this circumstance would you be like a little bit racist you know i don't i don't i mean

01:37:26.800 like i'm not in the person's like head so like i'm not in time like i don't want to jump to conclusions

01:37:31.840 but like okay you know what i mean i don't know i don't want to sure yeah

01:37:35.840 yeah hmm what if we were to change this scenario let's say it's uh you're talking to one of your

01:37:43.680 girlfriends and she maybe do you have roommates or housemates i have housemates yeah and like

01:37:49.600 your girlfriend she just gets home and she's like oh yeah i was out and it was it's dark it's dark

01:37:55.120 yeah she's like you know i was i was walking home and there were like these three guys

01:37:59.680 guys just not race just three men and i just felt a bit uncomfortable so i crossed the street

01:38:06.320 yeah and nothing happened but i i crossed the street and i'm here now everything's fine and

01:38:11.600 you'd be like oh okay yeah fine right now if she relayed that back to you a bit differently and she said

01:38:17.280 well i saw three black people and then i crossed the street would you be like whoa i'd be a little

01:38:21.600 iffy i'd be like a little interesting okay yeah it's interesting um so with this bear thing i think uh

01:38:28.080 by the way i think uh the answer in any at least my take the answer in any scenario should be

01:38:33.120 uh you should pick the man you should pick the black person uh instead of the bear but um

01:38:39.120 because like for example if if it for the bear one if you were like if they pick the bear over

01:38:45.200 a black person i feel like that might be a bit racist and the same reasons you gave for why you

01:38:51.040 pick the bear over the black person what is stopping like a white racist person from saying well

01:38:56.880 i had one or two bad experiences with a black person and here here's some crime statistics

01:39:02.000 that show that there are certain crimes that are committed more by certain races right

01:39:07.760 and then they now use that as justification for like broad for their racism

01:39:14.960 like it's a hard topic to go by you know like sure sure uh food for thought though yeah food for

01:39:20.640 thought i guess the point we're trying to get at is and this this goes beyond just the bear scenario

01:39:27.120 there does seem to be certain statements that are deemed acceptable if they're directed in

01:39:34.240 what goes two ways in the direction of men and if they're in the direction of white people

01:39:40.880 but i'll i'll keep it strictly relating to men so women will say things like men are trash

01:39:48.400 but then if the same thing if you were to say it about well women for example if you were to say

01:39:52.240 women are trash this would come across as like a really misogynistic very sexist thing to say

01:39:57.840 and but then i think the real enlightening part if we change if if there's any ever a situation where

01:40:04.720 we say men are x or something about men or even something about well let's just keep it with men

01:40:10.640 and then you take men out of the statement and then you implement you put in black person or latino or

01:40:20.560 woman and it becomes racist or it becomes sexist then you start have to wonder well was the original

01:40:27.840 statement then sexist towards men but i think there's a lot of hand-waving and social acceptance of

01:40:34.880 uh misandry so misandry the h it's kind of the counterpart of misogyny misogyny prejudice or

01:40:41.040 hatred of women misandry prejudice or hatred of men so the bear thing kind of brings this to light

01:40:48.640 in the sense that we can make these determinations we can say these things about men creating a sort of

01:40:55.280 social stigma or an acceptance of uh anti-male rhetoric that really doesn't exist in the opposite direction

01:41:02.400 so yeah and that's kind of what everything he said is what i was thinking when you use that example

01:41:09.440 and like there's actually someone i know who does the similar thing well she'll use one example to

01:41:15.040 create a whole umbrella and i think if you start diving into the core you start realizing that like

01:41:20.720 just because one person has one experience that doesn't mean it's like the grand idea yeah i think

01:41:26.320 that's fair to say for sure okay um and like because i think so i think uh there's no doubt

01:41:35.680 that women do have bad experiences with men i'm not trying to downplay that at all uh it should

01:41:40.800 absolutely be acknowledged however i think something that i see happening a lot online but also in person

01:41:47.520 is uh again there's no doubt women do have these bad experiences with men but women will say things

01:41:54.800 men are terrible men are trash uh men are we've had women come on the show men are apex predators

01:42:02.720 men are xyz um or it they're arguing to justify their anti-male rhetoric their misandry their sexism whatever

01:42:14.560 and they'll say well hold on it's justified because i had a bad experience or well not i but

01:42:22.480 the woman in question will say i had a bad experience with a man maybe a really bad experience

01:42:27.760 with a man or even multiple men and then well men commit these crimes more often than women do

01:42:35.200 and they might they may not even be wrong right there there is a disproportionality as it relates to

01:42:42.000 certain crimes men do commit certain crimes more than women although i would say it's a very small

01:42:46.480 proportion of men but the trouble you get yourself in with this kind of rhetoric not you specifically

01:42:52.000 uh you seem quite uh you you don't seem like super toxic or anything but uh there is a lot of talk

01:42:59.040 there's a lot of like anti-male toxicity out there the trouble you then get yourself in is if you're if

01:43:05.600 your justification for uh this viewpoint towards men is i've had bad experience and here's crime statistics

01:43:13.120 there's nothing preventing like white nationalists or like white people who are racist to say well i had a

01:43:20.240 bad experience with a black person now my racism is justified which i think is wrong or uh here's

01:43:26.320 this crime statistic black people uh do this crime more often than white people or whatever or you know

01:43:33.840 what you could also do in other ways like if you're an asian person white people commit this crime more

01:43:38.400 than asian people uh i'm now going to be and i had a bad experience with a white person i'm going to be

01:43:43.280 uh anti-white so that's just the thing i think people should look out for uh because i think

01:43:51.120 it is a bit of a blind spot because i think there's not really any much pushback uh when

01:43:58.640 when uh we're talking about men or white people yeah and i've even heard women say like especially

01:44:05.040 on social media that the world would be a better place without men when men are really one of the

01:44:10.240 biggest foundations of just the existence like of society essentially so and but you don't you don't

01:44:17.520 hear people saying like if there was no bears you know what i'm saying it's always if there was no men

01:44:22.160 the world would be a better place but you know it just woke mind virus yeah it's such a ridiculous thing

01:44:31.200 what do you think though about like well i mean uh she brought up an interesting one do you think

01:44:37.040 for example um uh do you think the world would be a better place without men no i don't really think

01:44:44.000 so i feel like if if you could snap your finger and like all men had to go on some island or something

01:44:51.360 and women could just i don't know free for all had their own society would you do it no like okay

01:44:57.920 not not all men are bad obviously like there's definitely like majority of men are good just so you

01:45:04.080 would still take the bear you said majority of men are good i know but after like what he explained

01:45:08.800 and stuff obviously like i didn't think of it that way first you know so that's awesome yeah different

01:45:13.440 open mind open mind yeah growth i love that yeah i mean changed her mind maybe not entirely but like

01:45:20.560 i definitely see his point of view yeah so would you still do the bear are you a little bit more open

01:45:25.600 to having a man go by you at this point that's a good question um uh not

01:45:36.080 close your eyes and say it right just think and visualize and you'll get it well like

01:45:42.000 realistically speaking probably a man but i understand exactly what you're saying yeah you're

01:45:47.120 not crazy but like when he broke it down most men are good men and if you randomly came upon a man

01:45:54.720 in the forest you're not going to think he's going to harm you yeah and honestly i'd like to think

01:45:59.600 that most men would probably come to aid if necessary especially like you have to think again when it

01:46:06.240 comes to even a biological aspect like men are built stronger to protect there's a reason for that

01:46:12.800 so just take that into consideration as well so and i don't know if you have brothers or anything like

01:46:18.080 that but imagine if like women thought that way about your brother you know so well said

01:46:24.800 although to brian's question if i was walking down the street and i saw a gang of men white black asian

01:46:32.000 i would go the other way yes yes regardless of race and that's just because they might catcall or even

01:46:39.040 like like there's certain things that as a woman i i understand like especially if you're built a

01:46:43.840 certain way i don't really want to walk by a group of men anyway because i they might look i just if i

01:46:49.520 can have any sense of like control in that way but do i think that they're gonna gang up on me and

01:46:56.080 like put me in an alley no yeah sometimes you just like never know what they might do so it like i guess

01:47:02.480 you are like risking that chance and you know i uh i'm gonna move it on but uh question going around

01:47:08.560 the table uh what you said you're uh pre-law or wait pre-law so you want to be a lawyer yeah well

01:47:15.040 not i would preferably not like a defense attorney or anything i kind of want to be a prosecutor you

01:47:20.000 want to be a prosecutor yeah you want to do criminal law but on the prosecution side yes uh question for

01:47:25.600 you would you give up your career college for the perfect man no perfect man no so he could he could

01:47:34.960 make uh he could be a billionaire and like all the traits that you would look for you get them you

01:47:45.920 give it up nope a billionaire no i mean i've always been i've been raised like very independent like my

01:47:54.560 mom always like constantly reminded me like be independent like have your own like savings account

01:48:00.160 have your own 401k stuff like that and i i mean like i'm in college right now i wouldn't

01:48:04.400 i worked hard to get here you know i did my college apps and stuff i did like all this

01:48:08.960 academics are you a your junior i'm a sophomore sophomore yeah and uh huh you've already declared

01:48:16.480 a major are you are your uh parents still together yeah they're still together still together okay um

01:48:22.240 does your uh mom work does she have a job yeah she works okay your dad too yep okay all right um

01:48:29.040 um not even for the perfect man but uh question have you been you said you've been single for two

01:48:34.800 years have you been dating at all uh in the past two years yeah like any situationships or anything

01:48:40.560 like that like a few here and there but what do you think about the men at ucsb they're okay

01:48:46.560 are you are you in a sorority i'm in a sorority yeah okay uh the frat guys well uh you know you know

01:48:52.960 them they're fun they're fun yeah not for long-term things right um that's okay like would it be fair

01:48:59.760 to say that there's not a lot of perfect men out there i don't i i mean i'm i always have the

01:49:04.560 mindset that like no one's perfect right so right no one's perfect so so imagine to get to actually

01:49:09.520 get perfect it doesn't even exist yeah i mean like i can't even define like what a perfect man would

01:49:14.800 be i can't even define what a perfect woman could be help you out a little bit on that so so like when i

01:49:19.680 think of perfect at least i guess this would be from more of a female perspective well i mean it

01:49:24.560 would really be anybody's perspective but you could think okay what are the things that you care about

01:49:29.600 and find attractive in a person so obviously everybody cares about looks so whatever like

01:49:34.320 in terms of looks we just completely maximize all those characteristics you care about whether

01:49:40.480 you know it's it's facial features whether it's height whether it's it's build if you prefer

01:49:45.520 more athletic guy what so like perfect body perfect face perfect height uh then we can get

01:49:50.720 into personality perfectly loyal that's that's actually really big you've heard from a woman

01:49:56.480 here she's in her 30s and can't get a loyal dude i know it's one thing you know when you're in college

01:50:03.280 people are just you know a lot of a lot of people are maybe not in a huge rush to get into some super

01:50:08.960 serious boyfriend girlfriend thing uh i've heard this from a lot of younger younger women it's like yeah the

01:50:14.080 guys kind of just want to hook up they don't a lot of them don't want a relationship um and to be

01:50:20.080 fair some of the women also don't want that too but um so but perfectly loyal so there's never this

01:50:27.120 perfect guy he would never cheat on you he's he's obsessed with you he would never well obsessed and i

01:50:31.680 guess in a healthy way right not in a weird stalker creepy gonna murder you way uh he he treats you

01:50:37.920 perfectly all the things that you would want in him personality wise maybe he's funny maybe he's

01:50:43.760 charismatic he's a protector etc etc and then perfect could also entail he's like obscenely

01:50:49.920 rich he's a billionaire so in this case you just from the financial component you'd never have to

01:50:55.760 work again but the only thing you would have to do in this situation to get him is to give up your

01:51:00.160 career i still wouldn't still don't do the trade let's have you back on in 10 years after by the way

01:51:06.720 just to be clear look i mean uh look i think people can get enjoyment and fulfillment from their careers

01:51:12.000 but uh a lot of a lot of attorneys it's a stressful job yeah a lot by the way the alcoholism

01:51:18.160 rate amongst the attorneys is higher than the general population just letting you know and then

01:51:23.040 also as a prosecutor um while you are going to be part of the justice system and bringing criminals

01:51:30.320 to to justice and i think that's a commendable thing you're also going to it's a very stressful job

01:51:35.600 and you're going to be dealing with monsters yeah and i think there's uh what's that saying uh gaze

01:51:41.120 long enough into the abyss and the abyss gazes back at you so when you deal with these monsters

01:51:47.520 i think that can that can have an impact like you're i don't know you're gonna be dealing with

01:51:51.040 child preds and all this kind of disgusting gross people right yep or just like i don't know then

01:51:57.920 like pretty uh benign stuff too like duis and this sort of thing right um but i do think like it's

01:52:05.840 got to be a stressful job and um i don't know is it is it worth it you know i mean i've like i said

01:52:15.600 i've always been brought up to be my own person and like never rely on someone it doesn't even have

01:52:20.560 to be a man just don't rely on anyone because the only person that's going to actually be there for you

01:52:25.120 is you as a person so i feel like i should be making my own money i should be pursuing my own

01:52:31.120 career i want to do what i want to do and i know that i want to pursue this career i wouldn't want

01:52:35.040 to drop it for like even the perfect guy can i ask you this let's say somebody were not even related to

01:52:41.680 a guy somebody said here's a hundred million dollars in order to have this hundred million dollars which

01:52:48.320 you can spend as you please it's 100 your money and you will uh you can travel with it but here's

01:52:57.840 the catch you can't work and you have to drop out of college but you have a hundred a hundred million

01:53:03.040 dollars you can give it to you can be a philanthropist you can give give it away you can but you can travel

01:53:09.680 do whatever you want to do right do you take it then no a billion dollars you never know what can

01:53:15.840 happen i mean you can easily just like you know how people in like the lottery and stuff like they

01:53:20.960 get all this money and stuff and then they waste it like that like you never know what can happen

01:53:24.000 like i could get this money and then i don't work at all you know and then somehow it just blows

01:53:28.880 through you know in that situation you a hundred million look some of these lottery winners a couple

01:53:34.560 mil yeah they blow through it i mean uh if you're you seem like a smart person you seem like you have

01:53:41.760 your head on straight uh like i don't know do you are you drug addicted or something do i look

01:53:46.400 drug addicted no but i mean like what i feel like what you're gonna buy a bunch of hookers or something

01:53:52.000 what are you gonna do with a hundred mil like how are you gonna blow through a hundred mil well

01:53:55.440 exactly i don't know what i would do with it like you're gonna put like i well i mean there you put

01:54:02.400 some of it into the stock market you put some of it into crypto and then oh yeah you can you'll be

01:54:08.160 fine like you're not gonna blow through a hundred mil i guess but i don't know do you like fancy

01:54:12.960 cars or something i like working i like i like i like the idea of like pushing towards something

01:54:19.280 better as always so only if you work will you be able to have any type of drive or push in life

01:54:25.280 not like that but do you want kids no or i mean i'm 19 i don't know yet not now but in the in the

01:54:32.240 future would you do you want to be like married with kids a family things like that i'm not entirely

01:54:36.880 sure yeah i've i've actually been talking about that with my friends because i don't know we're

01:54:41.120 just we're we're teenage girls you know um it's kind of like a hard topic to go off of obviously

01:54:46.880 like children are expensive and like i don't know if i would be the best motherly figure in the world

01:54:52.480 i don't know i don't know myself as a like well enough as a person in that like area of life yet

01:54:58.320 because that's that's a huge commitment you know what i mean so i don't the idea seems nice but i'm not

01:55:03.440 entirely sure married then yeah i would want to get married but i don't know about a family

01:55:11.520 grid one motorsports donated two hundred dollars and one what's up grid evening brixton

01:55:17.360 had a free moment so i thought i would drop in for a few my wife and i celebrate 20 years of

01:55:23.440 marriage tomorrow i wish all these young women such happiness but they won't let it

01:55:28.640 hey uh grid congrats on the 20 years man that's a big milestone congratulations man thank you for

01:55:35.840 tuning in you should stay we got a good panel so uh stay watching man and then uh pendragon looks

01:55:41.200 like you bought a hoodie thank you man appreciate it thanks for buying a hoodie from uh shop.whatever.com

01:55:46.240 thank you man appreciate it uh okay so not even not even related to the guy but even if somebody

01:55:52.000 just offers you a billion dollars you don't take it no okay we're gonna do a follow-up with you

01:55:58.960 absolutely in uh seven years ten years we'll do a check-in we have related to this actually really

01:56:04.640 quick before we pull up the video and you'll go on video tab for this nick uh not quite yet um going

01:56:11.360 around the table uh same question for well the first question would you give up your career or if i

01:56:18.640 i don't know if any of you are still doing college give up your career for the perfect

01:56:23.520 man who makes a million dollars a year yes so i think it would depend on why he's wanting me to

01:56:28.960 give up the career to be honest if he's wanting me to just give up my career and sit in the house

01:56:33.200 because he doesn't want me to leave the house no if he's wanting me to give up a career to take

01:56:37.680 care of the kids and to stay home and take care of the household yes pretty pretty much that yeah yeah

01:56:43.600 yeah give up the career yeah take it i did yes you did okay is your husband uh

01:56:51.040 a high earner yes he is he's a good earner but i was pre-law as well and i'm outspoken

01:56:57.360 i i was a very very good athlete in college in texas i i had the sky was the limit for me and

01:57:05.920 that whatever i would have been doing pales in comparison to what i do now and there's not a

01:57:10.880 check big enough for me anyways for what i do so um my husband takes very good care of me and he

01:57:16.160 realizes the the strength that he has and how easy i make his life so he's happy to do whatever he can

01:57:22.880 to help make my life easier every day even though it's really hard for him to do that but he i i

01:57:28.240 there's nothing that you could do that's more rewarding or hard or cumbersome or taxing or rewarding

01:57:35.760 than raising a family in a household i there's nothing yeah i think that it's just you're a

01:57:41.120 really solid rib but i think being the rib of a man is actually a very powerful thing because a

01:57:46.240 rib is what actually allows a man to stand upright so wait question question for you so um did you

01:57:52.400 you graduated though you oh yes yes were you going to law school were you in law school or no no no i

01:57:59.440 was pre i went got my master's instead of going to law school master's in criminal justice criminal

01:58:04.720 justice okay and you were wanting to be a prosecutor or what were you wanting to do i i was being an

01:58:09.760 obedient nigerian child and doing whatever i was told um and trying to follow that path

01:58:15.600 because that's what your mom much like her was telling you to go to school my dad or your dad was

01:58:21.280 okay yes take care of yourself make money go to law school and marry one of your professors were his

01:58:27.280 exact words i believe yeah so that somebody was wealthy could take care of me and i can stay at

01:58:32.880 home and have the option if i wanted to wait what age were you when you met your now husband

01:58:38.720 uh i i don't know how old i was maybe 21 22. did you guys meet in college yes okay gotcha um so you got

01:58:50.560 your mass you got your master's though not just working on it but you got the master's right okay and then

01:58:57.120 prior to meeting him though your plan was to go to law school is that correct prior to going to get

01:59:01.520 my master's i wanted to go to law school and but because i just i kind of like chickened out kind

01:59:06.480 of i didn't i was like i'm just i didn't have a lot of support my parents are really strict so i was

01:59:11.920 like i'm just going to go get my master's my dad was like what are you doing like what are you going

01:59:14.720 to do with the master's it's ridiculous and so anything i could do to get out of the house i was like

01:59:19.920 let me go and just leave and i'll go to school as long as i'm not having to deal with the pressure

01:59:26.640 and the stress of not going to law school i can just do something and maybe that'll make them happy

01:59:31.840 and that doesn't work that way but you met you met your now husband and then your life trajectory

01:59:38.560 changed from career to uh housewife taking care of the kids yes okay all right i mean so you were

01:59:49.040 studying pre-law she's studying pre-law what do you think i think that her brain is malleable just

01:59:54.880 based on the the man versus bear and she seems very intelligent and she's very young i i don't

02:00:02.080 think how i thought when i was 18 when i was 20 like there's just so many things that change and

02:00:08.560 when you get married and have children you become smarter you just become smarter and i think moms can

02:00:14.560 understand not smarter like you're not smart if you don't have kids but your brain kind of functions

02:00:19.440 differently i would never have abandoned my potential career for a man ever even while i was

02:00:26.160 married i was not thinking i'm not going i'm not going to not go to work that happened over time

02:00:32.000 where i was like okay we're going to stay home and he's like yeah i think it's best you stay home we

02:00:36.000 worked we went through a process and it just made sense for me to be the one rearing our children

02:00:42.800 because it literally made no sense for us to outsource something when i could do it better yeah

02:00:47.440 yeah beautifully said yes you're a real woman yeah oh thank you being a mom is the hardest job

02:00:55.200 well track and field yeah i don't i disagree with that too did you do hurdles i was a jumper

02:01:01.440 that my forte was jumping nice nice um okay uh i think we got did you answer this question i didn't

02:01:09.360 yet uh i had to quit my job forever for a lot less than the perfect freaking man are you serious

02:01:18.400 yeah um here can i how about this um

02:01:24.720 somebody offers you a job at the courthouse but you're like the security person like you know how

02:01:31.120 the at the courthouse you go through metal detectors and they're like empty your pockets blah blah

02:01:35.680 whatever uh you get uh you have to give up your job but they'll pay you a million dollars to be

02:01:43.120 security at the courthouse do you do it like give up my so i'm a college and career oh but you'll

02:01:50.800 make way more doing that than you will being a prosecutor i don't know they make uh it varies

02:01:57.360 but like maybe eventually like a hundred around a hundred thousand probably i'm still supporting

02:02:03.280 myself then yeah probably like a million dollars that's a lot like give it like giving up my college

02:02:09.120 career to be a security guard and but you make a million dollars yeah yeah that's what i'm saying

02:02:12.800 like i'd probably be the security guard if i'm making more money in that sense wait wait so you

02:02:20.080 you give it up to be the security guard that's what i was about to say is that do i have that correct yeah

02:02:26.560 okay but you don't give it up to not be a security guard like like when i said okay we give you like

02:02:32.880 what was it a hundred million dollars just right now and you don't have to work but you'll work in

02:02:37.760 nine to five for the next 40 years wouldn't i be constantly making a hundred million dollars or am

02:02:42.000 i getting the question no well okay the first it was for the perfect man do you give up your career

02:02:47.760 so it's the perfect man and he makes a million dollars a year you said no then i asked okay uh if we

02:02:53.040 just give you a hundred million dollars flat but you can't do college you can't do career

02:02:59.280 do you take it you said no uh now it's for one million dollars a year will you be the security

02:03:06.560 guard at the courthouse for a million dollars a year so if you work for 40 years you'd make 40 mil

02:03:15.200 so that's less than the 100 mil up front just to do nothing like well you know you are working

02:03:22.320 security at the court i mean like like like not pursuing a career in law or anything like you

02:03:27.120 rather work as a security guard you can't get another 40 yeah okay for 40 years no i wouldn't

02:03:32.880 i'd pursue my career okay so you thought initially you get the the million dollars a year working as

02:03:38.320 a security guard and you can become do your career i guess yeah i just got the question mixed up okay

02:03:44.960 okay um she's ambitious

02:03:48.640 well i mean wouldn't it be more ambitious like give me the hundred mil and i'll do some

02:03:52.320 investing in stocks or something she wants she wants to work i like studying law

02:03:58.560 you can do that oh the video okay go ahead next pull it up

02:04:06.480 i was in college i dated a very traditional christian man who asked me at one point how do you

02:04:11.200 feel about after you graduated we just immediately got married and you were a stay-at-home wife and you

02:04:15.200 didn't have to work i was honestly offended by that question because i was so passionate about this

02:04:19.920 thing that i was getting a degree in that i was just so eager to enter the workforce and do this

02:04:24.320 thing that i loved and get money for it um fast forward to today i've graduated we broke up i'm now

02:04:30.240 working in the profession of the thing that i got a degree in and i changed my mind

02:04:34.480 okay so um felt any thoughts there i can't tell if she's being for real or not i think why i think

02:05:03.680 i mean she's she's kind of uh i i think she's putting it on a little bit but i i think the

02:05:09.360 sentiment is still there yeah it's like well i went to college and yeah i did the college and i have

02:05:15.040 my own career and i it's not clear how long she's been doing the career she still looks pretty young

02:05:21.840 so maybe just a couple years it doesn't seem like she's having much of a blast though i think that's

02:05:27.520 the sentiment there is uh and that's so great i literally like said this the last time i was on

02:05:33.920 too i was like i'm so sick of being an independent woman like i don't want to do it i don't like it

02:05:39.120 like i i i do really big canvases and tattoos and let me tell you i rather just paint whatever i want

02:05:45.200 to paint all day for and just not have to worry about paying bills but being able to just do what i

02:05:51.120 love just because i love it you know it's like i'm i'm i'm good the man can take the wheel you don't

02:05:57.360 want me to wear that bet no problem like we uh oh next segment here um this is just a little fun one

02:06:05.920 as a transition segment make a machine gun noise go

02:06:10.400 i can't roll my do it do it do it quick quick quick what the fuck okay

02:06:24.800 okay wow that was okay felicity no you asked me to do this and i always tell you you have to do it

02:06:32.400 do it if i do it are you doing it yeah yes you're doing it first okay you do do it first i don't trust

02:06:38.560 you i'm just you you do it first come on you know i'll do it do it come on do it i'm gonna do it

02:06:44.400 okay i do it a little different it's like

02:06:48.240 that actually that's more accurate you guys actually did pretty good except for i think you

02:06:54.000 and and you over here yeah it's real apparently there's a thing like they say women can't make

02:06:58.400 machine gun noises but you guys did it so i don't know gamer moment um good job guys that was

02:07:04.960 really good a win is a win right uh okay so we're gonna get into let's see we're gonna do some things

02:07:10.960 from the uh questionnaire actually you know what here let me do my notes first

02:07:16.160 uh let's see here we have our first notes uh haley haley uh oh haley that'd be me okay you said you

02:07:28.400 have many dating stories such as hooking up with someone who would not let you spend the night so you

02:07:33.600 had to walk hours to get home oh my god yeah when was this oh gosh uh how long ago was this

02:07:40.800 uh maybe like 10 years ago so it's been a while wasn't there's not uber lyfts i'm just not surprised

02:07:47.200 that was too broke um so i i just met him on tinder and it was just a hookup and so i knew what i was

02:07:55.120 getting into as far as that was concerned we were on the same page but i figured he just like you know

02:07:59.520 usually well always a guy would let me stay the night before you know if i meet him and we do that

02:08:05.600 you know it's just been a given that you know let me spend the flippin night but not this guy and i

02:08:11.680 think it was maybe okay i lived in san francisco so all the trains had stopped running you know buses

02:08:18.240 even what time of year was it like cold well it doesn't even get that cold there so i don't remember

02:08:22.880 but it could it might have been spring or something it was too cold to be walking home and so when he

02:08:29.200 wouldn't do that and oh you know what he said that was so great i'm like really i can't even just like

02:08:34.400 sleep here and he says well it's just you know i don't really know you so like i don't know i feel

02:08:41.280 like wait wait so okay hold on hold on let me ask clarifying questions to figure this out okay so you

02:08:46.320 got you met on tinder yeah did you go out first or did you go straight to his oh no this was

02:08:51.200 business i don't do that anymore but i did and unfortunately back in the day you go straight

02:08:57.280 to his house and then like as soon as you walk through the door like from walking through the

02:09:01.760 door to having sex how much period of time has elapsed i'm walking in the door uh i don't remember

02:09:08.080 that much i don't think we even watched a movie he might have like put something on and then we we

02:09:12.560 did you talk to yeah we should chat it a little bit but i don't think it was more than

02:09:16.720 not more than 30 minutes it was pretty pretty fast okay and then was it just one round or did

02:09:22.160 you guys kick it for a bit after um i would say we finished and then he like we talk a little bit

02:09:31.040 but mostly he's trying to you know be like well i'm getting tired you know i got to work in the

02:09:34.720 morning and so okay how long total were you at the house i think it's just so long ago i can't

02:09:39.760 remember one hour two hours let's go with two hours tops two hours tops yeah well because you

02:09:47.600 were saying well within about 30 minutes you guys started having sex i mean come on it's what he's

02:09:52.720 not fucking going forever right so uh five minutes it lasted or something like that

02:09:58.240 no how long you last no i'm just fucking around but i like i like taking it slow you know

02:10:05.200 i'm not like on on a mission trying to you know reach the okay the end post there so i like to take

02:10:13.360 my time but how long did so did you take an uber there how did you get there i took that day i think

02:10:20.640 it was just cal train and it was still running like the last one probably that i took so you went over

02:10:25.920 there around like 9 p.m or something safe to say yeah it was pretty late and you just expected to stay at

02:10:32.800 his house yeah i've never done that i feel like i'm always like if i'm like well i've also never

02:10:39.680 hooked up with a guy at his house but like if i'm she does it in park no like bathroom stalls no no

02:10:47.840 7-eleven oval office the dumpster behind like with my ex-boyfriend when we were like first starting to

02:10:54.720 date i'd be like okay i'm gonna go home now bye i can hang out for the day and then i would just leave

02:11:00.800 good because i wanted to i don't know i was never like i'm staying at your house it's not like i

02:11:07.760 wanted to hang out with this but okay so did you okay so you took the train there yeah and then the

02:11:14.320 train by the time you finished what by the way was it was it any good or not really i don't remember

02:11:21.520 i mean i wasn't even drinking so no you were sober sober it was not memorable they're very relevant be

02:11:27.040 quite felicity so anyways um so okay uh do you tell him are you like look it's like 11 a 11 yeah

02:11:37.280 oh yeah oh yeah i wasn't i like at first i was just surprised you know like really just just i can't

02:11:42.640 just sleep you know until this train starts running again that's it you know you don't need to make me

02:11:47.600 breakfast or anything crazy i didn't think that was a big ass i mean did you did you ask him for

02:11:53.920 to like get you an uber or something no oh no that's that's not something i would ask at that

02:12:00.080 point look i i think it's fair for a guy to like in the same way that if a woman's like i don't want

02:12:08.240 you in my house anymore the guy should probably leave i think that has to equally apply to women too

02:12:13.600 there has to be some consideration though like if it was a snowstorm outside and you're like hey i'm

02:12:18.320 gonna fucking die if i have to walk home or whatever in this case sf is i don't think it's particularly safe

02:12:23.520 city um so he didn't offer to drive wait so wait what part of sf was he in and then where were you

02:12:30.960 in oakland or some shit because you should not be walking around in fucking oakland at the time no we

02:12:36.560 lived in good neighborhoods i lived in millbrae which is nobody's probably heard of this mill yeah

02:12:43.440 it's by burling game okay millbrae to where if millbrae to okay it was a four hour walk so four hours

02:12:52.560 south of where i was i don't remember the exact city his house was in millbrae no no i lived in

02:12:57.760 millbrae okay where was he it was i don't remember the city name wait can you can you uh nick google

02:13:04.400 the the the google maps we want to see the fucking distance this she fucking yeah i'd be able to point

02:13:10.320 on a map what tell us the general area of where he was in san francisco so it's this is all kind of the

02:13:17.680 southern bay maybe like halfway to san jose from so wait he was in san jose no

02:13:25.280 all i know is i lived in millbrae and then where was he lady oh my god uh south i south where

02:13:33.760 of millbrae it's all it's all san francisco bay is like this it's just it's probably not that

02:13:39.520 far apart we walk at like two miles per hour it's probably just like eight miles away because we don't

02:13:44.720 walk that okay but it took me four hours to walk that no no i'm not something like a distance

02:13:50.000 that's probably like eight miles yeah that's like eight miles yeah in between just a just a

02:13:58.960 claim donated two hundred dollars nothing better than some women being delusional stay at home mom

02:14:06.000 isn't work guessing most of this panel would rather be supported than earn anything easy question what is

02:14:12.800 minus 40 celsius to far in it fahrenheit i know the answer starting with you i guess okay what was

02:14:20.160 the question i don't remember my uh i think it's i don't it's right there do you see it what is

02:14:24.960 negative 40 celsius to fahrenheit i don't i don't know negative 40.

02:14:31.520 zero i don't know okay um that's the only point where they the two meet celsius and fahrenheit

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02:16:10.640 okay click on milbrae got to go down a little bit it's okay because when i say san francisco i just

02:16:17.840 mean the whole of san francisco bay there milbrae zoom in okay yeah there's milbrae that's where i lived

02:16:23.040 and then oh it might have been foster city so south up north you're saying that's that's south

02:16:36.240 so click from and drag down click

02:16:41.920 other way yes it's south it's out so milbrae click click and milbrae and then directions i guess to

02:16:48.720 foster city no we're not going to do that okay don't so he was in foster city

02:16:55.280 it it was oh it might have been redwood shores it was one of those two okay and that's an

02:17:00.720 four hour four hour i mean that pro four hour walk yeah okay uh that's fine all right

02:17:06.720 several cities okay um wasn't fun so i'm saying so okay he you go over you hook up and then

02:17:19.440 you didn't think of the like ask for an uber or something maybe i did i don't remember so he could

02:17:24.640 have said no all i know is it didn't happen and i was kind of trying to sit and like wait a second so

02:17:29.040 really you know i'm gonna have to walk home because the trains aren't starting for at least six hours or

02:17:35.040 more more more than that and i was like not my problem okay i mean i think ultimately

02:17:44.720 i mean ultimately if somebody doesn't want you in your house you kind of got to go but like is it

02:17:51.440 a dick move yes that's all i'm saying yeah i i think you're like okay let them crash on the couch

02:17:58.720 let them stay until morning when they can get to the train or whatever in this situation offer to

02:18:05.040 pay for the uber or whatever um but actually i that's a very unique scenario but i guess to the

02:18:11.920 whole panel here uh do you think like let's say in the different scenario like you drove there and to

02:18:20.320 get back home you can drive home and you'll be back in 10 minutes uh do you think a man after the

02:18:25.520 first time you have sex with him and assuming like maybe he does want to keep seeing you or whatever

02:18:31.600 but do you think the man the first time you have sex he's under some sort of obligation

02:18:35.440 to allow you to stay over oh no absolutely not for the panel oh sorry no no no i think it's a dick move

02:18:44.400 but no no i think it depends on the circumstances but no onto the mic oh sorry um no i i can't even answer

02:18:57.040 the question because i don't think people should be having sex outside of marriage okay well that's

02:19:01.840 that's a take all right and you said you don't have a problem with it uh i'm yeah it's not something

02:19:07.840 i would do to somebody i think there's some some blame that should be put here on you though uh in the

02:19:16.800 in the sense that you probably should not have assumed that he was going to let you

02:19:24.880 crash yeah like that's the day i learned a little bit i don't learn a little bit like i i don't think

02:19:31.760 it's a hundred percent unreasonable for you to have had the assumption like oh he'll probably be

02:19:38.960 fine if i crash just because it would have been something given how far away it was i think it would

02:19:45.120 have been uh the appropriate it would have been appropriate for you to have done some due

02:19:50.320 diligence yes and been like hey just want to check if it is late if i come over uh i'm not going to be

02:19:57.120 able to catch a train back can i can i crash as far as the whole though moving off of your situation

02:20:02.800 but the question i asked the whole panel uh i disagree with you a little bit on this one okay uh i

02:20:12.480 personally uh i i i don't think it's like if you don't want the girl to spend the night

02:20:18.640 i don't think it's necessarily rude if you don't don't let her but she let you have sex with her

02:20:24.400 so i just think like to spend the night versus walking i let her well well no no but that not

02:20:29.440 her situation the situation is you went over to a guy's house you have a car you're 10 minutes away

02:20:35.520 i'm not talking about this that's what that's kind of rude okay

02:20:38.480 no no no the question the question was uh the first time going over the guy's house

02:20:43.200 you drove there you're 10 minutes away okay so there's not a component of you're going to be

02:20:49.440 walking for four hours does that clear it up yeah yeah still rude or i i still think it's rude yeah

02:20:55.840 okay because yeah i mean my position is if uh i think if the roles were reversed and the girl hooked

02:21:01.760 up with a guy and she was like hey um i don't want you to sleep over i think a lot of women would

02:21:10.240 be like well of course it's like your personal space and that'd be like really weird if you felt

02:21:14.400 uncomfortable letting the guy sleep over i would agree i would still say she was rude though i think

02:21:19.520 on either end it's like you feel comfortable enough to like sleep with me or sleep with her

02:21:23.840 sure you're not comfortable like just letting me crash on your couch well i mean maybe i have like an

02:21:28.160 autistic take on this or whatever but like i i actually um eventually long enough into a

02:21:33.440 relationship what the fuck i didn't mean to press that long enough into a relationship i'm

02:21:39.440 eh well well is it i i prefer separate separate beds slash separate rooms okay you're weird um

02:21:45.520 is it like their first time meeting ever like they're hooking up and meeting for the first time

02:21:51.280 uh first just any first time having sex okay like i'll offer the guest room you know but

02:21:56.960 i think it's i don't think anyone not because i'm just like and i feel entitled to stay at your

02:22:02.640 place i think it's most people leave after a hookup but like you can offer but still i think it's one

02:22:09.920 time a girl forced forced the stay of the sleepover how was that for you well i was otherwise i otherwise

02:22:19.200 liked her but when she did that it kind of in an ironic sort of way it achieved the opposite result she's

02:22:26.240 like because she she was like i like i didn't want to cause any friction so i was like fucking i'm

02:22:32.000 gonna bite the bullet but that was the last time i ever saw her so it's like congratulations you played

02:22:37.520 yourself we had sex one time and you're gone oh it was one time and she was trying to force a sleepover

02:22:43.120 no she so she comes over she comes over we we hook up and i would it wasn't like come over and i'm

02:22:49.680 gonna kick you out but we hung out we hung out and i wanted to see her again but i was like hey

02:22:55.040 listen um i'm kind of tired i i don't i don't like sleep i don't like to sleep next to somebody

02:23:01.120 especially early on i can do it once i'm more comfortable with somebody yeah but like i don't

02:23:06.000 know maybe this is weird because you're saying well you're comfortable having sex with somebody

02:23:09.200 you're inside of her but you can't she can't sleep next to you i'm just saying it's rude i think it's

02:23:13.600 rude to like kick her out i think some people might i don't know if it if it's necessarily rude but i i can

02:23:19.920 see why a woman might feel slighted or whatever but in this case i feel like sleeping next to

02:23:26.080 somebody there's a component of um i don't know maybe i've seen too much fucking like true crime

02:23:32.160 shit but like is she gonna fucking murder me in my sleep i can't have a total i can put my penis

02:23:39.520 inside of her but she can't sleep next to me i have a more sane take i think it's just like i don't

02:23:45.680 i don't like you that much yeah like if it was that situation it's like if if it's like a hookup

02:23:50.720 you don't typically it's a lot more intimate feelings for people yeah well it's also that but

02:23:55.840 and it's also it's part of it i think is a uh like it can be difficult for me to fall asleep

02:24:05.680 with somebody you're like you're not comfortable with too well it's like but i know what you mean

02:24:11.760 if she's moving and shit or if she snores i mean it's not get out no she can have another room but

02:24:17.760 no we're not i don't like i don't like guys that snore but if she's if she's moving around

02:24:25.840 she's got a small bladder getting up three times during the night to pee or whatever it's like i'm

02:24:29.920 awake once i wake up i can't go back to sleepovers are for boyfriend girlfriend yeah again way more

02:24:36.160 intimate like when it's like i actually want you to be around as i don't want to wake up to your

02:24:40.400 morning breath yeah like you gotta like morning breaths you gotta like i gotta like your morning

02:24:44.880 breath for you to stay the night yeah so but uh and for me i'm not i'm not interested in the one

02:24:50.720 night stand ever but even like a girl who i am interested in and i do see a potential with

02:24:55.760 it's i still in terms of comfort comfortability i do prefer either she can take the guest room or

02:25:04.560 just like i'm not gonna kick you i'm not gonna come and then goodbye like we'll cuddle we'll

02:25:11.920 continue spending time together but eventually at some point later on in the night i'm gonna be like

02:25:17.760 all right well let's call it night and i'll see you in a day or two or something like that i think it's

02:25:22.800 rude if she has like nowhere to go whatever sure but it's also rude that she expected to stay in your

02:25:29.920 space oh right so that one girl yeah she she was like i was like hey um like we we hooked we hooked

02:25:38.480 up we had sex and then like i wasn't trying to kick her out immediately i i liked her she was cool

02:25:44.160 and i was like hey let's um let's watch a movie let's get some food we get some food eat some food uh so we

02:25:51.040 were hanging out for like two three hours afterwards and then i was like hey it's getting

02:25:54.720 kind of late and she lived like five minutes away oh like super close right and she's like

02:26:02.720 no i'm staying how long were you guys talking for at this point like a week or two oh that's

02:26:09.920 trespassing and i was like and she was like no i'm staying and i was like you imagine if a guy did

02:26:17.680 that to one of us i i would call the police i'd be like you gotta go i feel like from the female

02:26:23.600 perspective you'd be like whoa this is like a violation it's a violation yeah i think so it's

02:26:28.640 almost weird but i was like i'm not gonna make i was like fuck it i'm gonna bite the bullet

02:26:36.400 and so like she slept and then she left in the morning you blocked her and then i uh i mean i

02:26:43.520 basically was like and the crazy thing was i was feeling her before but she fumbled she

02:26:50.240 fumbled she forced and i was like it it achieved the opposite of what i guess she was trying to do

02:26:55.440 i mean maybe look i get it she was trying to not feel used or whatever but i was like no i liked her

02:27:00.160 blah blah blah and i told her i was like look i'm not trying to uh i want to see you again like let's kick

02:27:05.440 it on how knows let me see you in two days it wasn't like that but then she's like no i'm staying

02:27:11.920 over and like was kind of bratty about not bratty but when was this how long this was i 20 i was 23

02:27:22.000 oh i was less i was probably a little less assertive how old was she 22 21 something like that yeah

02:27:29.840 and uh she forced it and i was like shit man all right i'm not gonna cause friction right now

02:27:37.280 anyways whatever it's uncomfortable yeah you got oh yeah i didn't sleep very well it's the ick

02:27:42.240 oh i got the ick i got the ick i was like shit and she wasn't snoring but she

02:27:50.880 you know like not snoring but like the audible breathing i'm not gonna lie my nickname is dar

02:27:56.000 fader i i breathe heavy but i'm sleepy i do not like people that snore when my ex used to

02:28:02.240 snore i just put a pillow on his face all right and then he would wake up and you stop snoring

02:28:06.640 anyway sleepovers for us then huh but uh yeah in this case i think the guy was definitely a dick he

02:28:12.960 should have offered to like cover an uber for for you yeah um i mean i don't know if he had it

02:28:19.760 wait question how quick would it been by car like maybe 15 20 minutes oh gosh yeah it's a real real

02:28:25.520 short also wait did he have a car he could did and how old was he do you remember how old he was

02:28:32.000 and then how old were you again when this happened we were about the same age i wasn't looking at

02:28:37.760 at a very small window so 25 men and women are different so this would not i don't think a guy

02:28:43.200 could get away with this but honestly like technically it's like trespassing but i would have played

02:28:50.480 look if i was a chick in that situation also you could as well as a woman or even as a man this is

02:28:55.920 fucking sf you gotta think about your safety like i'm gonna make a stink i'm gonna be like look you

02:29:01.520 want me to leave you gotta trespass me call the police i that might sound fucking insane but i'm not

02:29:07.600 walking home i'm not walking for four hours at night in san francisco i'm sorry yeah as a woman if i

02:29:14.880 was a chick in that situation i'm like call the cops mother yeah or order my order my lift right

02:29:20.800 now or get my drive me or get me an uber yeah ah but what if you like pull some shit and you like go

02:29:26.800 outside and he cancels that shit honestly i didn't even i mean did he did he give you cash call the

02:29:32.960 cops in that situation and be like no are would the cops give you a ride chat or no no they don't

02:29:38.960 i would have i could you said but you said you went over there because you were doing sex work

02:29:44.640 right is that what you were doing where did that come from you said something about cash earlier and

02:29:49.520 that it was for business or something you had said that you went over there for business that's what

02:29:54.080 oh like just sex oh okay okay i was going a whole okay i think the expectation after like barely knowing

02:30:03.120 each other was a little off putting on your end but i think he was the bigger dick i think he definitely

02:30:08.800 shouldn't have done that to you and i only made a little stink about it so and nowadays i probably

02:30:14.240 wouldn't make any stink whatsoever just because i'm a little older you should i mean that's just

02:30:19.280 like that's unsafe for you in the wrong direction you don't deserve that at all i i think the cops

02:30:26.000 might have given i would have at least tried no i've asked them for a ride before they're like

02:30:31.920 and they're like we don't do that i was like i was like 15 and like we're not we're not driving you

02:30:37.840 home i don't know i'm i'm at least trying i'm not where i'm not walking like she did four hours at

02:30:43.440 night in san francisco i'm at least i'm at least before i resort to i'm gonna call the cops be like

02:30:50.160 look i just fucked a guy his dick was really small um can you yeah i'm gonna say that on the like if i

02:30:56.720 was a chick i just fucked a guy he like pre like he was a premature ejaculator um he's kicking me out

02:31:03.120 like he's just embarrassed or whatever i'm like i i live four hours away can you can you guys give

02:31:08.320 me a ride that's not an emergency they would laugh at you and hang up premature ejaculation

02:31:12.000 definitely an emergency okay uh no no but but she can try what's what's the worst i mean did you not

02:31:19.360 have like a family nearby or like friends that you could have called for a ride no i didn't i mean

02:31:24.800 nobody has flipping cars around there you know every most people rely on the transportation but mostly it

02:31:30.640 was just me was he drunk or something no we weren't drinking his wife was gonna come home

02:31:36.240 maybe i don't know look if i was in your situation what i would have done and look it was a very i

02:31:43.840 don't recommend this but like if the choice is between cause a scene or walk four hours at night

02:31:51.200 in san francisco i'm i'm like no i agree i would cause a scene i'm like listen motherfucker i'm not leaving

02:31:59.760 i'm not look you tell him it's unsafe for me to walk four hours alone in san francisco yeah you

02:32:06.160 can let me you can let me stay or i mean you're i'll force your hand you can call the cops and they

02:32:13.280 have to remove me call the cops remove me forcibly you're really down to catch a charge instead of

02:32:20.160 walking if you leave they're not they say the cops will cause a scene but i'm not gonna catch any

02:32:25.520 charges no here's what would happen the the cops would come and they'd be like okay now you have

02:32:30.880 to leave at that point you would have to leave i think then they'd probably give you a ride maybe

02:32:37.440 be like and and you would explain it to the cops you'd explain it to the cops either he does the

02:32:42.160 right thing or it's like hey uh i don't know but like say if he say if something happened to you or

02:32:52.800 you like got murdered or something like that i wonder like how that would work on like if he would

02:32:57.760 be any way of responsible because i don't know i wonder how that would have happened nah i don't

02:33:03.840 think he would be responsible no oh maybe only if you were intoxicated wait but but like let's think

02:33:09.200 about this right like let's think about the i know this is a bit different but and people are

02:33:18.560 saying in the chat like oh that's crazy but what if the scenario is it's a snowstorm and like the

02:33:24.720 temperature was so low that if you were to go outside you would like die or get hypothermia in that

02:33:31.680 instance i think it's within your right to like refuse to leave yeah absolutely i well you're still

02:33:39.040 technically trespassing but it's like legal rights okay i don't know well no i don't you technically

02:33:43.920 still don't have a legal right to be there like if you're in a bar or wait i don't know do now it's

02:33:52.320 different i was thinking like do do are there any lawyers in the chat do uh let's say you're in a

02:33:58.160 really cold region of the united states and you're in a really cold region of the united states and it's

02:34:04.640 like below freezing if you have a commercial establishment do you have some duty to your

02:34:11.040 patron to like let them inside i don't know wait hold on i actually kind of have an answer because i

02:34:18.960 worked at 7 11 overnight in oklahoma and even if it was like negative snowing or anything we couldn't

02:34:26.240 even let homeless people be in there to just warm their hands up like they would tell us like we would

02:34:31.040 have to tell them to leave i didn't always follow that because i felt really bad but technically i

02:34:36.320 could have got fired how about this what if you live in a really rural area like you're you're 30

02:34:42.560 minutes away from any other anything else like here's the crazy hypothetical you have your house

02:34:48.400 you it's your house your girlfriend doesn't live there your girlfriend's visiting and i don't know

02:34:54.240 it's a snowstorm and your your girlfriend starts like the giga fucked nuclear argument of all time

02:35:05.360 can you kick your girlfriend out of the house during a snowstorm i think you can i don't think

02:35:10.880 you should but no no hold on but if you do she fucking dies i think you okay you have yeah but i think

02:35:18.880 you have some legal obligation to be like the circumstances right would compel you to not kick

02:35:26.480 them out of the house i mean right yeah yeah i don't think if you're like dating someone don't

02:35:32.480 i don't even kick people out the house if we're like i'm like having a huge argument with them like

02:35:36.560 me and my ex i'm not gonna be like get out of my house especially if the weather's like that that's

02:35:41.760 like life or death and stuff no but but chat hold on i'm pretty sure i'm pretty sure like yes okay

02:35:49.200 you can't trespass if somebody wants you to leave but like life or death like no if i'm having some

02:35:56.080 like fucking end of the relationship giga fucked argument with my girlfriend and i'm like in if it

02:36:04.640 was otherwise like summer or whatever i'm like get the fuck out but it's the winter and it's snowstorming

02:36:10.400 and if she's outside for 30 minutes she's dead no are you asking if you're liable yeah are you

02:36:16.640 are you asking liability yeah i'm pretty sure you just murdered somebody if they die on your property

02:36:22.560 you might be held to count i think something similar happened to kansas well if you kick like

02:36:26.720 a small child out while the weather conditions are you would get charged with neglect and of course

02:36:31.280 you would yeah that's kind of a different time it is different but it's similar i think something

02:36:36.080 like that happened in kansas city after a football game and like a few people died oh that's right

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02:38:19.280 guys drop us guys there's 5 000 oh my goodness this is our this is our highest viewed twitch stream

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02:43:25.120 guys i want we're going to play um we're going to play a video also bring up his instagram too but

02:43:31.200 uh you can do that later but first we're going to play this thing from the video

02:43:36.480 thank you guys you guys are legends thank you thank you uh okay go ahead play it i think that the age of

02:43:42.560 like me having girlfriends and like dating and shit is probably over right i mean like realistically

02:43:45.840 like i i am older and uh i'm also very much a degenerate i'm a weird looking guy uh you know

02:43:51.200 again like i try to look decent on my screen but i'm a weird looking guy and so i don't really think

02:43:55.200 about getting married or having kids i mean it's something i would want to have to do but like i

02:43:58.320 just don't really think i don't see it happening if you want me to be honest okay pull up his instagram

02:44:02.880 now so you guys all were paying attention i hope right okay good friend close friend very good

02:44:12.400 good man his name's zach i am i saw that clip the other day

02:44:20.240 i am making it my

02:44:24.080 duty my goal in life i am going to be

02:44:31.760 i'm gonna his matchmaker i'm gonna be zach i'm gonna get him and i because i do the show every

02:44:36.880 week and i'm i'm always surrounded by some you know some some lovely not all the time but some

02:44:42.080 lovely women so i'm gonna i'm gonna match make him uh so really quick i just want to show you some

02:44:47.360 photos uh by the way he's a protector do you see him with his axe like if you get if you break in

02:44:54.720 like if you're kicking it at his house uh it you might need to help him clean up the house a little

02:45:00.800 bit apparently there's roaches and or something i've seen the pictures oh he has a nice jawline

02:45:06.320 and uh exile that so you know if some there's a home invasion he'll axe the guy to death

02:45:10.960 he he he's a great guy scroll up his name's zach very very nice guy he's successful he's successful

02:45:18.320 you know i think you know he's actually like i think he's he's

02:45:23.840 you know i think he's got like some some good like some good facial features you know like he

02:45:33.040 could maybe you want to date him well i'm straight you know i'm straight but uh i you know i think i

02:45:40.880 think he has some redeeming facial features and he's um he's he's not fat he's he's a thin guy he's

02:45:48.080 not you said you don't like chubby dudes so no i like chubby dudes oh you do not like

02:45:53.680 you know that's fine so anyways um i have taken it upon myself i haven't talked to him about this

02:45:59.920 but i'm just gonna do it i'm going to get him like his dick is my dick wow his dick is my i'm gonna

02:46:09.760 look he's looking for something serious you know i'm not it's not just about the sex but i'm saying

02:46:13.840 i am gonna be his wingman so uh just like going around the table we have some single ladies actually

02:46:20.960 actually most of you are not single but uh shit for the women who are single um

02:46:27.200 so he's a really good guy he's not looking to like hit it and quit it you know he's looking for

02:46:32.400 he's looking for the one you know he's looking for he wants kids you know can can i basically

02:46:38.720 would you go on a date with him i mean no what what the fuck okay um here really quick before

02:46:44.240 what would you go on can i get you i would not go on a date with him i mean i'm sorry i'm not i'm

02:46:50.320 not saying that you know it's just is it because he's rich no because you earlier you said because

02:46:56.480 he's he does very well for himself is it because um earlier you said you don't really care about money

02:47:01.840 i don't no sorry zach um uh and then the only other single wait relationship relationship and then

02:47:12.080 what you're she's available i mean she's like dating again absolutely would and you know what's

02:47:18.800 funny absolutely wait wait hold on she would repeat that one more time i said absolutely would

02:47:24.480 i fucking got wait and it'd be extra incredible because my fake pretend boyfriend he loves asmund

02:47:32.480 gold he watches him all the time he's a mega fan can you imagine that would be the ultimate revenge

02:47:38.480 plot so wait question though um are you by the way are you like latina or what yeah i'm about half

02:47:46.480 i mean i think does zach let me ask the twitch chat uh did does zach does he like latinas

02:47:54.800 is he a latina oh my god we're on hype train level oh my goodness they're on fire

02:47:59.760 oh my gosh chill out very excited i just did oh my god shout out twitch i've just never seen you this

02:48:06.880 excited w twitch w twitch youtube never does that youtube never excited since pasty george bought you

02:48:12.800 two iphones where is that guy um so you would date him though you wouldn't date him why why not

02:48:20.320 i think i'm too young for him i mean if he was down to i mean you don't like how is zach is he like 35 i

02:48:28.640 think uh no but he'll be fine with you being a lawyer or whatever that's okay i'm good does it

02:48:39.280 change anything look i'm okay i'm gonna have to tap into the status he is uh one of the biggest twitch

02:48:47.200 streamers so he's got he's cloud i don't know if that matters to you though but he's all he's got like

02:48:52.640 look i don't want to make it all about the money and the fame he's he's a good person and i think

02:49:02.320 he's got a lot to offer i think he'd be a good person for someone his own age though yeah well if

02:49:08.160 he was he looks younger though how old is he again does he i think he's 35 what kind of content he's a

02:49:14.640 good guy i actually thought he was younger than 35 based on his appearance i'm not gonna lie i thought

02:49:19.120 he was younger i did how old i'm pretty sure he's 35 i think he's my age uh wait uh 35 about 35 okay

02:49:30.960 he's maybe a year younger than me 35 36 um and you wouldn't know what why not um definitely just

02:49:39.760 not you've been celibate for three years i think we can't you know i think here look look look it's

02:49:44.400 just not my give him a chance will you go on a date with him uh yeah i i'm open to giving anybody

02:49:50.880 a chance okay and we're you live in los angeles okay so here's what we're gonna do he's in austin

02:49:59.440 he doesn't leave his house i don't either so i'll we're gonna fly you out to austin i don't travel

02:50:06.880 i really don't i i do not i don't is it you don't like to fly i hate to fly yeah yeah the only

02:50:14.560 reason we're gonna do a train then i i will not leave okay we'll do horseback he can't go to her

02:50:20.880 no i i have responsibilities at home so i don't leave he can come to me you have cats what do you

02:50:26.640 have a dog you have a dog my entire life yeah bring the fucking dog i can bring the dog bring the dog

02:50:31.440 yeah i also have a job well you know so don't worry if you if you get what i think i think his uh

02:50:38.480 schedule might be a little bit more flexible than mine so maybe he can come to me or if he's in

02:50:42.480 well i mean the guy the streams every day almost i don't think it's gonna work okay well all right

02:50:47.680 so yes i got okay i got one and it sounds like you would go on a date if he came to la yeah okay

02:50:54.320 all right i'm gonna make this happen okay chat i'm gonna make it really quick pull up the twitch

02:51:01.840 thing one more time okay guys if you chat drop us a fall on the prime sub if you want to see

02:51:10.320 a live streamed date that's between asmongold and look i'm gonna keep i'm gonna keep grinding away at

02:51:18.400 this i you know next show i'm gonna get i'm we're we got this his dick is my dick i'm gonna get this

02:51:24.720 guy a new i'm gonna get him a a wife not just because you know that's sweet he'd be look i i feel

02:51:32.640 like you know i feel like asmongold is probably low-key like that guy's got game i feel like asmongold has

02:51:38.640 game zach has game like he'd be running through these austin hood rats

02:51:45.280 like he'd be running through them like i feel he's secretive about it though he he he he doesn't

02:51:52.160 he doesn't advertise that shit like he'd be running through just slaying hood rats left and right

02:51:59.040 slaying these hood rats

02:52:05.760 i'm just saying i'm just saying um but zach listen i got you dude we're gonna i saw that

02:52:13.840 fucking clip you're a good guy we're gonna get you a wife you're gonna pump out a couple kids

02:52:21.520 and they can continue the legacy the world of warcraft legacy okay um

02:52:29.040 i was um okay never mind um really quick pull up the twitch again guys drop us a follow and that prime sub

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02:52:49.200 for 28 months thank you for the tier one jaffa thank you for the prime d2 legend there's so many we

02:52:53.280 we won't be everybody else thank you thank you thank you really appreciate all the support over there on

02:52:56.800 twitch oh my goodness yeah by the way like i i was like with with the ads i don't want to put ads on

02:53:05.120 on twitch like we have to put some because apparently if you disable i think if you disable

02:53:10.880 the ads um they're going to give you a pre-roll and i'm like fuck the pre-roll i want people to come

02:53:17.280 into the yeah i don't know that's what's frustrating about twitch streaming from like

02:53:21.280 the creator's perspective i don't want somebody to like their first time coming into the stream or

02:53:25.840 whatever and they get bombarded with like a 36 30 second 60 second 90 second ad like i i don't even

02:53:33.200 so we try to run super minimal ads um so anyways whatever i don't know that's not related anyways

02:53:39.840 back to the show back to the show sorry guys i spurged out there for a bit it was the accent actually

02:53:47.760 you know what any females watching any women watching if you wanted me to set you up don't

02:53:53.120 be a fucking troll about it be legit you want me to set you up on a date with zach i got it you can dm

02:53:58.640 if you're a woman no men okay he's straight if you're a woman and you want me to set you up on

02:54:05.840 a date with zach you got to dm out whatever and i'll i'll make it happen i'll make it happen

02:54:13.120 i'm gonna make a girlfriend application too for anyways i could give you help i was just about to

02:54:18.080 say learn from the best this girl has a girlfriend application nick we're going to react to her

02:54:23.040 girlfriend or yes oh it's boyfriend it's from a long time or boyfriend yeah it's a summer boyfriend

02:54:29.840 application nick can you uh zoom it in a little bit oh my god bigger bigger bigger just yeah that's

02:54:36.240 good all right so there you go she's included some semi-degenerate bikini photos um scroll down

02:54:43.840 of course scroll down okay so here sab sab you're gonna read just read okay my requirement is sab is

02:54:51.680 looking wait start from the top oh sab is looking for a temporary boyfriend till september who is

02:54:58.720 handsome single and fun man to hang out with during the summer before she leaves i was leaving london

02:55:03.840 don't actually have to be boyfriend and girlfriend my requirements is i want a pretty boy mainly white

02:55:09.120 not in a racist way 19 to 26 years old with some exceptions 510 plus no breaker proper handsome has

02:55:17.200 some background in modeling is a plus no facial hair or minimum facial hair might be okay no tattoos or

02:55:24.800 minimal might be okay doesn't think or doesn't do nicotine is preferred no drugs preferred not fat sorry

02:55:32.080 pro athlete and high status men welcome extra info you can be broke and not have a job okay you can

02:55:39.040 be a uni student you can be working you don't need to have a certain amount of followers down to go

02:55:44.400 on holidays i pay must be 18 plus i don't care if you still live with your parents i have my own flat

02:55:50.080 jewish men please apply right wing men is a plus loves football gaming ufc tennis etc etc um i did not

02:55:58.320 meet my current boyfriend this way but he fits a lot of that except he's not jewish yeah okay all right um

02:56:06.320 um you should have included though you should have included on this that you're diabetic yes you

02:56:13.920 should have included um which uh let's see really quick shout out john straight thanks for the 30 on

02:56:19.360 venmo um question for you though before the show you were like tell us about the the the insulin long

02:56:26.720 acting or whatever i drove here from la and i left my long acting insulin at my hotel and i have to

02:56:34.880 give it to myself once a day just because it works over a period of 24 hours and the time that i'm

02:56:40.880 supposed to give to myself is basically now so i have to leave the show early but in like two hours

02:56:47.040 from now so i could go back to la what are you type one or i'm type one i've had it for 15 years okay yeah

02:56:54.160 so this is really irresponsible of me to have what is it long acting long acting and insulin correct um

02:57:04.400 okay and it's like is there like a workaround like what if you just have sugar or that doesn't work

02:57:12.400 if your blood sugar is low you need to have sugar to bring it up so we got snacks you know what i'm

02:57:17.360 saying well yeah but it's the opposite i don't need sugar i need insulin i need to keep my blood sugar

02:57:22.960 actually retarded the long acting releases like a little bit of insulin over 24 hours to maintain

02:57:28.320 you whereas all your bodies are doing that right now because you have a working pancreas i don't so

02:57:32.720 my body is my blood sugar cannot be controlled without long acting okay okay and it would

02:57:38.880 just curious i'm not gonna like i'm not gonna have you go into like a diabetic coma or whatever well

02:57:44.560 what would happen though i'm just curious if you're without like if you yeah it's called dka

02:57:49.680 diabetic ketoacidosis and it's when your blood basically becomes like poisonous kind of

02:57:55.040 yeah you start like getting shaky and then it would be uh more of like i have to go to the hospital

02:58:02.000 do you like pass out or what happens no not even you can like throw up uh you become very dehydrated

02:58:08.320 you need to go to the hospital to keep fluids in you because you can't retain fluids well at that

02:58:13.120 point still magnolias julia roberts what happened yeah yeah yeah there's it's very like medical and

02:58:19.440 annoying it's you can't take a day off it's an obsession it feels like an eating disorder to

02:58:24.000 obsess about like your what you eat because that will affect your blood sugar levels and you take it

02:58:29.760 you take it every day yes i have multiple injections is it like a finger or what no that's to test test it

02:58:36.240 it i do injections where where like in the belly or yeah belly arm and thigh oh okay good times does

02:58:44.720 anybody in the santa barbara area have some emergency some emergency long-acting insulin you really want

02:58:51.360 me here well i mean like normally the show goes a little longer than ten so i'm just saying like

02:58:55.200 does anybody have a plug like an insulin plug it's gonna be like poison is that like illegal to it's

02:59:02.320 unsafe no but like it's not illegal to like if you're on the streets the mean streets and you're

02:59:08.720 like are and you're trafficking insulin is that like technically a crime it's i believe it should

02:59:14.720 be because like if i was trying to legally get insulin like am i gigafucked um there's no way to

02:59:21.600 legally get it on the street so i think any like selling of medicine on the street is illegal even if

02:59:28.240 it's if it's a prescription if it's a prescription not if it's advil but yes you can get it on the

02:59:33.600 dark web okay my bodybuilder boyfriend did it about illegal insulin look i'm trying to i'm trying

02:59:39.840 to hook a girl up i'm trying to get get her some insulin

02:59:47.280 okay all right i'm just looking out you know yeah thanks yeah is there like so what did people do

02:59:54.800 before like die they just died but they used like cow insulin for a while from animals but i think

03:00:01.120 that was only from the 70s or 60s onward nice before that it was death you're just damn yeah

03:00:09.360 good times yeah yeah that's good times um okay getting back into the notes though we have uh oh

03:00:16.640 the girlfriend boyfriend application oh yes what would going around the table to open up to the whole

03:00:21.680 panel though if you were to make a boyfriend application what would you put on it maybe i

03:00:27.920 maybe there's a lot but maybe give us like two or three things looks wise and like two or three things

03:00:33.520 not looks wise personality wise okay um tall preferably like brunette um yeah good build like

03:00:42.800 you don't have to be like built built but like you take care of yourself you know what i mean

03:00:46.640 um personality wise very like adventurous and stuff because i really like traveling and then

03:00:53.760 probably very generous i like generosity a lot okay uh well we kind of did you know mine yeah looks

03:01:01.840 wise i'm not too picky um somewhere between five eight five ten as far as height um i more so go for

03:01:10.400 like character and personality sure um so somebody who has a provider mindset somebody who is compassionate

03:01:17.680 and empathetic and um very motivated and like growth mindset always trying to do better okay um six foot

03:01:28.240 brunette preferably although i don't really care um and uh travels for work is a plus

03:01:35.280 uh yeah separate uh houses would be great separate houses yeah

03:01:43.520 i like my wouldn't but wouldn't you're if you're just meeting them you said my perfect guy no just

03:01:53.280 like if you had a put out a boyfriend application oh yeah some of the things that not maybe not a

03:01:57.760 boyfriend application but like what are some of the criteria that you would use to judge a potential

03:02:03.360 boyfriend application um loves animals that's high on yeah it really is yeah i care a lot um

03:02:12.880 uh what if they just like animals that's okay yeah they're not like i would never date someone who

03:02:18.800 doesn't like dogs for okay you know what i mean like they have to it's right that's weird sure there's

03:02:23.440 some people that yeah it's not that they like are animal abusers right they just don't like animals

03:02:29.200 prefer to not be around right and i love them so um yeah all right what about you um definitely

03:02:36.560 taller than me and then i i really like the white redneck thing i i just really like white guys yes i

03:02:43.280 do is your current boyfriend uh white guy yes okay and redneck yes wow and redneck uh well you're

03:02:51.840 married so i mean probably no boyfriend applications in your future but you want to just say some of the

03:02:57.920 positive characteristics you like about your husband i would say the first thing would be fit

03:03:05.120 and healthy so that i would want to talk to him the next would be christian and then the next would be

03:03:11.600 and probably less for starters it'd be had to be really really really smart nice okay what about you

03:03:20.640 i don't know if you didn't cheat on me that'd be nice that's probably about it yeah damn get this girl

03:03:26.080 oh shit damn it's tough out here i know okay um let's see i guess moving on then uh oh i guess i

03:03:35.920 could do what what i would what i would want okay i i wrote it down actually uh in preparation for this

03:03:41.840 segment uh let's see here okay any race is fine but slight preference for asian women and or white

03:03:48.960 women hell yeah asians i will allow asians well allow asian of course uh but you know i've dated i

03:03:55.360 would date latinas totally fine but that's my slight preference um let's see um we'll do looks and

03:04:05.680 personality so i guess i'm starting with looks here uh uh natural body supremacist so like it's not a

03:04:13.440 hundred percent a deal breaker not not a hundred percent a deal breaker but preference for like

03:04:18.640 no plastic surgery i guess um not a deal breaker but strong preference for and it depends the plastic

03:04:25.360 surgery like bbl not not a not not a huge fan of that um prefer yeah prefer more on the natural side

03:04:38.480 less or no makeup um yeah uh what else uh i don't care about boobs i mean nice big boobs whatever

03:04:49.600 that's fine i'm not like uh i don't really care that much about ass the fuck is this combat

03:04:57.280 i feel like i'm i'm wording this completely wrong like a nice like a cup b cup c cup don't care

03:05:04.560 whatever uh not to say that like c cups d cups whatever not it's not that as i don't like it

03:05:11.440 i'm just saying i don't care uh but you know whatever i'm a i'm a labia guy hashtag big labia

03:05:18.080 matter blm blm hashtag blm it's the pressing issue of our time um yeah i just

03:05:26.720 it's kind of a strong preference there like i'm not a butt guy you know how like there's a boob

03:05:31.440 boob guys and butt guys i'm a labia guy i was yeah he's a large labia have you been with a girl

03:05:37.280 like a big fat ass before because i feel like that's why you maybe you're not into you haven't

03:05:43.760 had like i haven't i've okay hold on okay i don't know i've had the spectrum of oh of everything i've

03:05:50.800 i've had a diverse i'm i'm a a well diverse i'm a dei uh okay yeah i've had diverse

03:06:00.960 body types i guess you could say what don't you like about it about what like a big ass yeah

03:06:06.640 it's not it's not that i dislike it like don't get me it's not like how do i explain this like

03:06:12.320 like like a non-bbl big butt like a natural so like for example if a woman has an a cup or is flat

03:06:20.240 that's not like some guys might be like i don't know i prefer girls but like i it's never a

03:06:26.080 consideration now not to say that like if you were to ask me okay well brian show us a picture or like

03:06:31.360 explain what like perhaps you think the like optimal or best looking breast sizes not to say that it

03:06:38.880 wouldn't necessarily it might be like c cup or i don't know whatever i could i would probably lean

03:06:44.720 more towards like something that's bigger than a cup but that's not to say that i would not

03:06:49.760 i'm incapable of being insanely attracted to a woman who does have a a cup or is flat or whatever

03:06:54.800 are you like a face guy face important but labia oh because labia number one high on the list high on

03:07:01.680 the list i would say but um the butt thing what was your question i was just surprised that you were

03:07:07.280 just like you don't care if someone's like flat or not so i think shape oversize yes shape oversize

03:07:14.320 because there's some fucking diaper butts yeah that are huge not not but like i i think

03:07:22.880 the the are you talking like a thick girl no i mean like a gym girl like i think because i i think uh

03:07:30.080 uh i think they're the visually like the thick

03:07:35.920 you know appealing okay but like for for like actual

03:07:41.040 sex okay yeah i don't know like i don't know i don't know either i don't have a i i'm just saying

03:07:49.840 it kind of it can complicate things in the bedroom if she's a if she's a thicky icky

03:07:55.120 but that's what i'm saying like a gym girl like a thin but like a nice butt like a well nice butt

03:08:00.320 but you're talking big butt well by big big i mean like a gym big butt not like are you talking

03:08:04.720 about donka donk no no no i mean like summer right do you know who summer right is summer

03:08:11.600 yeah i think i'm like sophia vergara this type of natural big but that's more shape i guess you

03:08:17.600 probably like them then not like a kylie jenner i think shape is a bit better all right but like

03:08:26.400 if she doesn't have a great ass or i don't care that's not a deal breaker but look i don't get me

03:08:31.440 wrong like i i i am a fan i enjoy a nice ass i enjoy a nice ass you know hell yeah there's that

03:08:38.320 accent but it's not a deal breaker it's not a deal break like it's not like oh she's got a small

03:08:43.600 bum like i can't date no i don't really care um but like the the problem with the big ass though

03:08:51.120 like the big ass is look i'm gonna be up it came up earlier that guy had a twitch username brian's

03:08:59.120 teeny penis my penis size is average and sometimes you know looking i'm not i'm not packing a tenature

03:09:06.560 you know if she's got thunder thighs and a giant fucking ass certain sexual positions are off the

03:09:14.080 table for a guy like me so what i'm saying is i'm saying is i'm a guy who likes a woman on top okay

03:09:21.440 i'm not trying to get crushed okay i'm not trying to get crushed give me a little petite girl with a

03:09:26.800 nice ass and i can make it work okay but if she has a bit too big i'm sorry on top her on top which

03:09:33.840 is one of my favorites it's not going to work doggy style you can get around it a little bit

03:09:38.800 doggy style is effective even for a fucking thick girl you know you know i'm fucking saying right but

03:09:44.240 anyways what was i saying look i'm just saying i'm telling you these thick girls you know sometimes

03:09:49.440 these guys they think the bigger the better but i'm telling you in the bedroom sometimes it can cause

03:09:53.760 some situations it can be it can be some complications i'm telling you you take a girl it's like

03:09:58.880 like can you even get there can you even get to the vagina sometimes i guess look as a guy who's

03:10:05.680 average size sometimes i can't even you know i can't even uh i'm scared sometimes you know i

03:10:11.920 understand that's a lot of weight coming down that's gravity that's scary that's gravity you

03:10:16.560 know she's going too quick i could have a broken penis i'm not trying to do it i need a girl i can

03:10:21.520 kind of control you know control a little bit in the bedroom i see a nice if she's thrown that

03:10:26.240 shit back and she's got oh my god it's too much you know she's got too much cushion for the push and

03:10:32.400 i know i can't you ain't packing like that uh it's average i'm not saying i gotta look i'm just being

03:10:38.240 honest i'm not i don't have a micro penis it's just i have an average penis okay and look save the the

03:10:45.360 the thick women save it for the the bbc or whatever save it for the the guys with the big dicks i'm i'm

03:10:51.440 gonna say i was kind of like a thicker girl i've some of the issues he's saying i actually have

03:10:56.400 experienced that does it suck like what happens you learn to fake it really well oh wait fake it

03:11:04.800 look there are positions even with the big girl i can still get access to i'm just saying if on top

03:11:12.960 if it's harder if she's got big legs and giant ass it's hard to get there you know no and i'm like it's

03:11:20.880 just the tip yeah and honestly even with some like being on top sometimes it still doesn't

03:11:30.400 it it could fall out you know i get it i think that's just the size yeah but that's what i'm

03:11:35.760 saying that like obviously these were probably less than average men as well so but oh wow yeah

03:11:42.800 look i was young i was young i'm curious why fake it i mean that doesn't help a dude either

03:11:50.800 agreed i was super young that's bad communication super young fake it was i was super young and it

03:11:56.400 wasn't like anything serious like after that i never spoke to him again so i'm sure every girl

03:12:02.480 at this table has faked it at least not me no really wow i do not inflate i faked an orgasm on

03:12:08.240 shit how do you do that as a man well i mean there's there's a content involved so it's a bit

03:12:16.320 easier okay um wait why did why did you do that as a guy i just you just weren't feeling it all

03:12:26.000 of a sudden look i i don't think you should fake it i've never i faked it one time and

03:12:31.200 you shouldn't fake it it's bad okay but i did it don't worry about it i'm just curious why i do

03:12:39.760 that herself i needed to help her self-esteem wow she needed it yeah he's a hero guys he's a hero

03:12:46.880 she was she was struggling so i know how the women that fake it hey i'm a nice guy i came in and i you

03:12:51.920 know i don't fake it huh i don't make it congratulations felicity i'm not a fraud like you

03:12:58.640 it was one time okay just kidding it was one time just kidding is that the yeah wait leave it there

03:13:06.080 nick do you guys see the moon is that the moon like oh i think i see what you're saying the yellow

03:13:12.560 the yellow the yellow dot w moon shout out shout out to the moon joining us for our fucking dating

03:13:18.160 podcast welcome to the uh welcome the moon has seen some crazy shit seen a lot of people fucking in

03:13:25.280 public oh let me tell you if the moon had eyes have you done that before yeah you've had sex in

03:13:33.680 public on the beach oh probably in a park in like a family it's been a minute though it was when i was

03:13:42.240 young i was when i was young and i was like you know you don't have your own place and it's like oh

03:13:46.720 i could fuck in the car or i could fuck in the beach actually i don't think i fucked in the car

03:13:52.160 i had sex on the beach though a couple times and let me tell you at night at night and let me tell

03:13:59.920 you not great not great and then the fucking tide was coming in and we were going at it and it what

03:14:10.000 do you do you know what do you do we got the fucking water hit us oh my god that's kind of romantic

03:14:16.080 though no that's like i could see that actually that's more like a movie you know maybe in real

03:14:22.080 life it's not as like practical but in a movie it looks nice it's a nice idea yeah with the sunset

03:14:28.160 or how did we get oh the oh the oh the yeah i should i i must be coming across as incredibly

03:14:33.360 superficial just talking about boobs and butts and labias and penis let me talk about what i'm

03:14:39.040 look yes and let me talk about what i'm looking for uh in terms of personality okay let's see here

03:14:48.640 i wrote it down uh oh my how many oh my god what the hell hey don't look

03:14:57.200 uh uh let's see um i prefer introverted women typically it's not a deal breaker for women's

03:15:05.680 extroverted but i typically prefer i'm introverted myself too uh so i definitely prefer somebody who

03:15:12.480 matches me there uh i'm a bit more i don't like to like i'm more of a homebody i mean i i like to

03:15:19.760 go out into nature but i don't like fucking i don't know going to festivals and i don't know

03:15:26.720 um um what else uh submissive pleasant what else what else what else what else uh

03:15:40.000 introverted quiet calm soft-spoken

03:15:43.600 um yeah peaceful peace is big peace is big i don't need a girl to be all i don't need charisma i don't

03:15:52.800 need a big personality i like somebody who's pleasant and can uh you know it's it's good if

03:16:01.600 we can have a fun convo and enjoy each other's presence but you don't gotta be funny i don't

03:16:06.400 care about that god bring me peace though that's important gotta bring peace and i don't i don't

03:16:12.240 drink i don't do drugs i don't party i don't smoke so i'm if she drinks a little bit that's okay but

03:16:18.000 ideally like very minimal drinking no partying no drugs none of that shit no bars no clubs

03:16:25.760 and uh yeah acts of service that's big she's got to do acts of service and shut up felicit

03:16:38.000 acts of service is big um like volunteering

03:16:42.240 for me no i don't want you like going to the homeless shelter like at the soup kitchen

03:16:50.880 acts of service for me i got it you gotta be doing shit for me uh yeah and uh yeah acts of service

03:17:03.280 word cool good good talk okay on to the next thing oh the bow video nick let's do the bow video

03:17:10.000 what do you do what are you doing back there nick are you you're putting pants on by the way chat nick

03:17:15.200 has been naked this entire time back there he's cold i think nick is putting pants on he was in his

03:17:21.200 g-string uh before before banana hammock yes yeah that's why that's how we get all the women on the

03:17:28.080 show we have nick is a look he only has what is it called what is the um a chippendale nick is a

03:17:36.720 chippendale he's a stripper that's how you okay do we have the bow video oh this is okay so this is a

03:17:46.000 video i took of my ex-girlfriend and um because i was like look kind of similar to her her situation

03:17:53.680 you know how he was all saying like my next girl so i was telling her i was like look i gotta

03:17:58.880 make a tutorial video that i gotta show future women so i i'm using you as an actress

03:18:04.720 that's and that's great that went over well but anyway so i was like look i gotta take a video

03:18:10.800 because you do such a great job like you're the placeholder kind of like her situation

03:18:16.960 you're the placeholder why are you like throwing shade for no reason don't worry about it felicity

03:18:22.000 you're the placeholder oh so i'm not you i'm talking yeah you're the placeholder so i have to

03:18:28.000 uh i'm gonna you're gonna help me with the tutorial because i feel like sometimes you gotta

03:18:35.440 not all women you know some of you get guys have bad habits and you got you you got to deal with a

03:18:43.440 real man these girls uh to to get you caught up to speed let me get you caught up to speed

03:18:53.200 on what it takes in 2025 2026 to deal with you know to get a man a top tier man you know we gotta

03:19:01.680 well i hold on i don't i don't like that the that kind of categorization but i'm just saying you know

03:19:07.120 i i have to uh sometimes you gotta correct bad behaviors you sometimes you gotta you need to watch

03:19:13.520 a lot of videos then you need to watch a lot of videos felicity but sometimes you gotta you know you

03:19:19.920 gotta undo certain propaganda you gotta you gotta get a woman caught up to speed so let's go ahead

03:19:25.520 play the video boom huge bow so that's rule number one she has to bow as soon as i come home she's so

03:19:35.440 beautiful well oh my god i love she got a lot of help from her doctor but um is she korean she is korean

03:19:43.360 so you know you know how they do it with the plastic surgery i think she's korean maybe she's chinese i

03:19:47.920 don't know i never asked her um has to have my dinner ready crack open a beer for me and stir my

03:19:54.560 noodles because obviously i consume noodles frequently one more time the bow let's just uh

03:20:00.800 play it again boom huge bow do you see the depth you see the submissive hand posture do you see the

03:20:06.560 slightly uh inward i guess they're not inward whatever the the submissive hand so going around

03:20:13.360 the table um would you would you do this for your boyfriend husband whatever no no yeah pretty cool

03:20:19.920 okay you like it for my current boyfriend yes yes no you you wouldn't do it perfect man it depends

03:20:25.440 for the perfect man it's kind of into the mic into the mic oh sorry it's it's a little weird to me but

03:20:30.320 the bow or the other stuff or all of it all of it all of it a little weird i mean i would do it because

03:20:35.760 i'd love the person that i'm with but i wouldn't i wouldn't want it to be an obligation by him you know

03:20:41.600 obligation okay yeah expectation expectation don't you have expectations though

03:20:49.440 i've never been in a relationship so i don't really know maybe maybe

03:20:54.480 like how about this as an expectation don't other people well my rule of thumb is if i find out that

03:21:01.200 you've hooked up with someone else i get to hook up with someone else and it could be your brother

03:21:05.280 that's your dad your best friend yeah yeah so is that what you do no i've never happened you've never

03:21:10.800 done a revenge fuck no no no a spite fuck no no okay damn that's gangster well you that's kind of

03:21:18.880 gangster and you'll never know who it is either wow yeah that's kind of an l for you though

03:21:25.520 i i feel like that's an l as the girl like okay well my boyfriend was a dick so i'm gonna go

03:21:31.040 fuck a bunch of dudes that's no no i wouldn't even say that i break up with him be like okay well you

03:21:35.600 you so now i get a hall pass that's a little i feel like that's a bit toxic though it very well

03:21:40.480 i think i've never been in a relationship i think you just break up you either break up with them

03:21:45.120 or you i mean i guess you can accept them back yeah sometimes cheating it doesn't necessarily mean

03:21:50.240 you're gonna break up with but you either break up with them or you accept the cheating i guess in that

03:21:58.320 instance but i think that's the l as the girl to be like i'm gonna show you i'm gonna be a whore no

03:22:06.240 no it would it would be ahead of time like i just want to let you know like if you if i find out you

03:22:11.680 cheat on me like i get to i get yeah that's still yeah if i find out you cheat on me i'm gonna be a

03:22:17.120 whore that's not that's not that's an l for a woman that's an l for a woman it is an l for a woman

03:22:22.480 that's not that's not a w that's an l is it that's a major i don't know again i've never been in that

03:22:29.600 situation you fuck another chick by the way got men shouldn't cheat women shouldn't cheat but i'm

03:22:34.800 telling you that's not that's not like uh that's not an own like hey buddy if you ever cheat on me i'm

03:22:40.640 gonna let another guy come in my what geez i would never say that that's not that's not a w

03:22:48.080 i'm not calling it a win okay i think it's an l on both sides yeah but that's not like your revenge

03:22:53.200 i mean i guess it technically would be revenge if he was upset by the fact that you

03:22:56.560 fuck somebody else but like it's not worth it to fuck somebody else probably not did you do that

03:23:03.360 to the olympic guy i've never done that because he was fucking other people maybe for sure yeah

03:23:08.640 although it's weird that he talked to you like every day for a year and yeah you guys never met

03:23:13.360 um okay great we were going around the table fuck i told you the bowing the bow oh when you bow for

03:23:19.200 your yeah i do more than what was in that video best good answer what about you why are we bowing

03:23:29.200 respect it's a show of respect and we're married or dating it could be boyfriend or it could be married

03:23:35.840 well i don't ascribe uh marital privileges to boyfriends so if it was my husband your husband

03:23:42.880 then you go home tonight or wherever your boyfriend next week and you is your husband here in town no

03:23:50.640 okay well next time you see your husband maybe you think he's watching oh yeah he is hi babe what's

03:23:57.120 this can you say his first name or do you want to keep that private oh i don't know i didn't ask him

03:24:01.680 okay well probably not but we'll call him chad uh chad i like that you must insist on the bow but um

03:24:08.960 next time you see her but what you would do it if you want he's he's so sweet i would bow him and but he

03:24:15.040 wouldn't make me do that but i i would okay what about you would you do it oh yeah i would do that

03:24:20.560 i mean as long as it's not actually serious serious where he's like if you don't do this for you

03:24:25.120 for me like every time i come into the room you know it's over no i would do i would do that of my

03:24:29.920 own volition yes that's just fun and cute cute little thing okay all right um wait so no it was no

03:24:38.880 and then no i think depends wait how about this for the not just any guy the perfect guy would you

03:24:45.680 hit a bow no really i think it's weird i don't well i get that it's weird right sure it might be

03:24:52.400 weird it might be unorthodox but not even for the perfect guy no so okay here look you're young you've

03:25:00.800 not dated too much it sounds like here's how the future is going to play out for you and i could be

03:25:06.720 wrong right um a lot of women are really dissatisfied with dating here's what's going to happen you're

03:25:13.600 going to jump from guy to guy to guy to guy you're going to have a series of disappointing relationship

03:25:19.280 after relationship after relationship some of which are going to cheat on you maybe one or two of which

03:25:24.720 uh hopefully not but one or two of which might be abusive you're telling me that for a complete once

03:25:30.160 a day three seconds you just have to for the perfect guy never cheats on you never leaves on never

03:25:35.920 leaves you is way more attractive better looking better personality than let's be realistic here

03:25:43.600 uh there are such thing as leagues so you're going to have to be operating in your league in terms of

03:25:49.120 looks in terms of personality career etc etc the perfect guy in this case would be a 10 out of 10

03:25:55.280 and looks 10 and that 10 personality 10 out of 10 loyalty 10 and 10 everything 10 out of 10 money

03:26:01.040 so you could be a billionaire you wouldn't bow for a billionaire no 10 oh my goodness it's weird i

03:26:07.280 don't i get that it's weird but i'm why would i do that i would honestly for the perfect woman i would

03:26:12.880 even bow and that's like that i feel like that's even worse because i think if we're looking at things

03:26:20.400 through the lens of like i know you probably aren't like traditional or whatever but like

03:26:24.880 society it's deemed more socially acceptable for a woman to be to do a submissive act right in this

03:26:32.720 case like a bow would be to some degree submissive now i would still want to lead in this relationship

03:26:38.400 but i'm saying that this specific thing to me is completely benign it takes three seconds all i have

03:26:43.520 to do is bow but i'm still the leader in the relationship uh even though it's like would be

03:26:49.360 socially unacceptable to some degree for a man to be submissive it'd be more socially unacceptable

03:26:55.840 than for a woman to do it i would still do it for the perfect woman because i can tell you first off

03:27:01.920 no one's perfect and there's look in relationships you make um you make trade-offs so in terms of you're

03:27:12.800 not going to probably get the mat i don't know if i'm not comfortable doing it i don't want to do it

03:27:16.480 like that's tough yeah that's fine but i i i it's interesting to me like even that super like

03:27:22.800 can i ask you a question would you like a guy uh to to be chivalrous yeah okay so like everyone wants

03:27:29.360 that right women want it men don't well yeah have any expectation for women to be chivalrous um do you

03:27:35.840 want a guy to like uh i don't know maybe there's different forms of it uh open the car door for you

03:27:42.240 okay you want a guy to observe the sidewalk rule so when you're walking down the street he's closer

03:27:48.160 to where the cars are yeah okay do you want a guy to pay for the first date yeah second date yeah all

03:27:55.680 dates preferably okay all right so interesting that's it's interesting um what's some other chivalry i'm

03:28:04.560 surprised too yeah would you want a guy to like pick you up for a date like he picks you up or yeah i

03:28:10.240 don't know the act of balance i don't know personally for me it just feels like degrading

03:28:13.600 if that makes sense well how so just like i don't know i just feel like do you want to get married

03:28:18.080 one day yeah sure okay maybe i don't do you want him to buy you a ring yeah okay does it you do you

03:28:24.320 care if it's some people there's like really cheap like 20 dollar rings on amazon would that bother you

03:28:30.560 i wouldn't like the tradition would be to you know some people go overboard but the tradition is to spend

03:28:37.120 you know buy a nice ring right maybe it's a couple hundred maybe it's in the thousands as

03:28:42.080 long as it comes with thought and like they know what i like like do you want a man to get down on

03:28:46.080 one knee when he proposes to you doesn't have to well i'm assuming you want the man to propose right

03:28:50.640 right like you don't want to propose do you like you'd want the man to be the do the traditional

03:28:55.760 thing yeah so he proposes to you and part of that typically entails having the ring and getting

03:29:03.280 down on one knee right why is this not degrading it's an act of chivalry like do you think bowing

03:29:09.360 is an act of ship i mean i guess well women don't do that but i think women will show their submission

03:29:14.080 in various ways but uh and but you probably completely reject being submissive in a relationship

03:29:19.760 but i would say that i actually think that getting down on one knee kneeling is way uh well physically

03:29:28.240 it's it's way more submissive and i think it's way more degrading than a bow at least a bow you stay

03:29:35.840 on your feet kneeling is some no it's pussy shit that's that's i think it's degrading don't you think

03:29:43.440 it's more gentleman like that like in comparison like don't you think like the majority of people

03:29:47.040 would think like proposing getting on one knee and like that's more like chivalrous and gentlemen

03:29:51.840 comparison to like you're getting your girlfriend to bow for you you know well i think it's within

03:29:58.320 the purview of chivalry but if we're looking at the actual action and i i think i'm understanding

03:30:04.880 you're you're saying that okay people at least in western cultures don't bow like white people don't

03:30:10.480 bow um although they're like historically if we're looking at like kings and whatever yes that

03:30:17.360 people did bow but that's besides the point uh whereas like it is the it is a tradition even today

03:30:24.000 when a man's proposing to a woman to get down on one knee right it's not it's deemed like a

03:30:29.840 socially acceptable hip behavior whereas the bow is not but the bow is really just a litmus test

03:30:35.760 for are you willing to do a completely benign harmless thing if your man asks for it

03:30:43.840 it i just don't think i'm comfortable doing it that's but what can you can you if i'm uncomfortable

03:30:49.760 in a situation like i don't want to do it but demonstrate the harm it's harm for me like i just

03:30:54.720 don't feel like it just doesn't feel right in my head to do it but demonstrate yeah okay but what is

03:30:58.880 the harm like physical or like well uh what would the actual harm be just feel like not like i don't

03:31:06.320 i don't know i just i think we're watching cognitive dissonance in real time i think that's what it is

03:31:11.440 it's you want and i've been there too you want the chivalry and the feminism but that's not it's

03:31:17.520 not a reality you're gonna have to war with that idea and you're gonna have to come to a a winner of

03:31:22.480 the of the battle you can't say i want all the chivalry stuff but your husband asked you to do one

03:31:27.360 one minor you know subservient act and you're like no why would i do that well why would we expect him

03:31:34.320 to open your car door stand on the side and do this i don't expect him to do it i would prefer him to

03:31:39.040 do it but it's the same thing he would prefer me to bow but i don't want to do that so well i i mean

03:31:43.280 i argue most of the men that you go out with pretty much are not going to hold you to any sort of

03:31:48.480 traditional expectations well yeah yeah right like here's my question like all those but but all those

03:31:55.520 things that we just listed what is the commensurate thing that women can do that that would be i'm not

03:32:03.760 saying that the woman has to open the car door but what is the commensurate thing the equivalent thing

03:32:08.480 that women can do so how do you be chivalrous to a man well not chivalrous but what so if women have

03:32:16.720 the expectations what are the expectations or what what do women do i mean like nothing no they they

03:32:28.160 obviously do stuff which is what they could what do you do what i do in relationships well what maybe not

03:32:35.520 in a relationship but what are the things that women do that are equivalent or commensurate to the

03:32:42.880 various chivalrous chivalrous acts that women uh want or sometimes even demand or expect at the very

03:32:50.640 forefront of dating and relationships i feel like it depends on the person i mean they don't do anything

03:32:55.840 no that's my perspective like like you i feel like usually women like cook and stuff and like do like

03:33:01.680 laundry yeah okay so yeah well i mean i have another position i think the first time a girl

03:33:07.520 ever comes over to my house she should do my laundry would you do that not for me i'm just

03:33:14.240 would you do that like first like date kind of not necessarily the first date but the first time

03:33:20.000 you're at his house i don't think i don't think you would do it no but there isn't i wouldn't expect

03:33:24.800 him to like you expect a guy to pay for your date though yeah it's i mean would you would you really

03:33:31.440 go want to go on a date with a guy that doesn't want to pay like well i'm a man and straight so

03:33:37.360 but i assume gay people go about things quite differently but uh you're wait hold on can you

03:33:44.640 repeat that last part like wouldn't you would any like woman really want to go on a date with a guy that

03:33:49.680 doesn't want to pay now we're getting somewhere interesting okay i've paid for guys but i've

03:33:54.560 paid for guys on dates too but why do you say why do you say would a woman really want to go on a date

03:34:00.800 with somebody who doesn't want to pay why is that well it's because usually the guys are like asking

03:34:06.000 you out on the date i feel like it's the mainly the respectful thing to do have you ever asked a guy

03:34:10.160 on a date no ah okay so you're getting into whoever asks should pay but whoever asks should pay

03:34:17.120 conveniently ignores the fact that women overwhelmingly never initiate because there's a

03:34:23.040 order of things and men historically have this uh societal expectation that they initiate like for

03:34:30.080 example as a woman you can wait around and guys will come to you whether that's in person online

03:34:35.600 and you don't have to do that and you can pick amongst the men that pursue you

03:34:39.600 unless you're like a really top tier man women don't pursue so most men if if most men did what

03:34:48.640 most women do which is nothing uh they would die virgins like most men can't get away with not taking

03:34:57.440 some degree of initiative or engaging in the pursuit because women don't pursue them yeah that's just the

03:35:04.320 reality right so i guess when it comes to whoever i should pay i would agree with that sentiment if

03:35:12.320 it was the case that men and women initiated at comparable rates even if it was maybe a bit dominated

03:35:19.120 by men so if 60 of the time the man initiated 40 of the time the woman initiated i'd still be prepared

03:35:24.800 to agree with that but it's definitely not 50 50 and it's definitely not even 60 40 i think it's probably

03:35:30.400 97 to 100 99 men are overwhelmingly the initiators right and i don't think there's a problem with

03:35:40.320 that i'm not complaining but i do think it is sort of this you know convenient uh thing to just say well

03:35:48.720 men are if you ask somebody out well you should pay well if there's like massive social pressure

03:35:54.080 that precludes women from being initiators well i don't know if it's social pressure more so

03:35:59.360 like a place of privilege like if a girl comes to me like y'all y'all have had this

03:36:04.800 shit on lock for a minute things are changing a little bit but like you have way more leverage

03:36:10.880 if you're the one being pursued you have way more leverage women don't want to give up their leverage

03:36:15.920 if a girl's coming to me i can set what it's going to be i can dictate the terms now you can still kind

03:36:23.920 of do that as the pursuer to some degree but like if a girl's coming to you it's going to be my way

03:36:31.440 things are going to be my way if a girl's coming to me and whereas the reverse things are a little

03:36:37.280 different so yeah i also think it's interesting how like i think you kind of listed a lot of like

03:36:44.560 wants and expectations from a man then you have to really think like it's almost like why should you

03:36:51.440 get that if you're not willing to like give a little as well and i'm not even talking about

03:36:56.080 finances or anything that i'm talking about again that submission you know what i'm saying so it's

03:37:01.120 like pay for this open my door protect me this this this let me but let me do whatever i want as well

03:37:07.280 but like in the context of bowing like i just i just don't feel comfortable like i feel i don't know

03:37:11.280 i just i would feel bad about myself and i i'd hope like my partner wouldn't want me to feel bad

03:37:15.760 at myself if i do this action for them so i'd hope that they'd like understand that i you know

03:37:21.040 it's i i understand that and i get the bow like culturally is peculiar it's unorthodox it's not

03:37:29.120 something that we do um but in this case something that i mean i asked about the the cooking or the

03:37:36.400 cleaning or the doing the laundry uh and what's interesting to me is and i'm not saying this is the

03:37:42.720 case for you but like you'll have women who will have no problem having uh sex right away have

03:37:52.880 uh you know and i'm not saying that that's wrong but i think it's interesting on one hand you'll have

03:37:58.960 a woman who will like give her entire body to a man like this is one of the most intimate things

03:38:03.440 you can do um although it's you know it's interesting a lot of people

03:38:08.560 for some people like it's weird like holding hands for some people is more intimate than having

03:38:15.920 sex which is kind of like why or kissing well i don't think so that's crazy yeah but like for some

03:38:21.920 people sex is like this just it's like they're completely detached intimacy from it it's just like

03:38:28.960 it's just sport fucking for a lot of people to the point where okay like a man can be inside of

03:38:35.200 me but oh if i hold a guy's hand that's more intimate than sex and you're saying same with

03:38:40.480 bowing that it's almost like you're saying sex is okay but bowing isn't well the point i was gonna

03:38:44.880 make is even off of bowing but it could be related to bowing a woman will like i mean look some people

03:38:54.000 get freaky a little freaky with sex like you'll be i'm gonna be a little graphic here but i'm being

03:38:58.800 graphic not for the sake of being graphic but to drive home the point a woman will choke on a guy's dick

03:39:04.880 will have let him come inside let him come in your mouth you'll swallow his cum you'll let him

03:39:10.240 blast on your face you'll let him blast on your back you'll do back shots you'll let him come inside

03:39:14.720 your pussy uh but women draw the line at i don't cook i don't clean i won't bow i won't do his laundry

03:39:23.360 and i'm like hold on you should be you'll you'll well yes you should do all of it but it's like

03:39:28.400 like the bow is uncomfortable but i'll let a man like i'll let a man inside of me within 30 minutes

03:39:36.000 of meeting this girl over here his load but you won't do his load yes wait wait repeat that felicity

03:39:40.960 you'll take his load but you won't do his load well put you'll take his load but you won't do his load

03:39:45.440 i feel like with dating it makes you a rare woman if you just do everything like i'll bow then i'll fall to

03:39:51.280 my knees and i'll cook and i'll clean it's like because you love them that much like you just want to do

03:39:56.000 everything for them and that you want to pay for them yeah and honestly like the easier my man's

03:40:01.360 life is the easier mine is so yeah just make them happy and it could be like the bowing thing is like

03:40:07.600 fun and cute to me and like you can make your own version of imagine like wearing a cute little skirt

03:40:11.920 or something like that i love this this is so cute and and here's the truth with it right like i in in

03:40:18.960 practice like i i actually don't care if the girl like doesn't bow but it's her willingness to do it

03:40:29.120 yes like that's actually it's not the actual act itself it's the willingness to do it it's not like

03:40:34.880 i'm some dictator it's like you didn't fucking bow to me today no i don't give a fuck like i don't

03:40:39.360 actually care but it's like it's a temperature test it's a litmus test for like okay is she gonna

03:40:45.200 acquiesce to me in other ways in the relationship and so uh but but i mean getting off the bow because

03:40:52.480 look again i get it's kind of like a bit odd it's a bit culturally doesn't make sense um but like

03:40:59.600 you mentioned how you wouldn't do a guy's laundry on the first date or not the first day the first time

03:41:04.320 you're at his house right um but you expect a guy to pay for the first date right and i was thinking

03:41:09.680 about this and i think the easiest way i can like so okay you're dating college guys right

03:41:16.240 sure college men caught people in college are not typically known for being particularly high earners

03:41:21.200 uh maybe they have parents money whatever whatever

03:41:24.720 let's say the guy makes twenty dollars an hour probably good chance like a lot of guys in college

03:41:29.040 make less than twenty dollars an hour here in california we have a minimum wage that's pretty decent

03:41:33.760 maybe it's 16 17 18 19 whatever when you ask a guy and look i know i i'm you seem reasonable i'm not

03:41:42.240 i don't get the impression that you're expecting a guy to take you on you know some super 500 dinner

03:41:47.840 right you're probably fine with maybe some pizza or chilis or some shit right but i don't know maybe i'm wrong

03:41:54.720 but i think like if you go to chilis right you go to chilis on a date which i think most women are not

03:42:00.160 going to be like super impressed with a chili's date um but it's not exactly like okay the most

03:42:11.040 if you're gonna go do i think dinner dates are lame as fuck but if you're gonna do a dinner date

03:42:15.200 chilis is not like exactly the most impressive do you watch wicked i do thank you um but like

03:42:21.680 if a woman's expectation or maybe when you get a bit older and he takes you to a you know a medium

03:42:26.480 tier place like he's gonna spend probably at minimum a hundred dollars on the date right

03:42:32.000 and you would say okay well half of that's for him so whatever we're not going to count that

03:42:35.520 but a hundred dollars on a date is going to be like one or two drinks an appetizer

03:42:39.920 main course dessert and tip right a guy's gonna i don't think it's completely i don't think it's

03:42:46.240 unreasonable to expect a guy's gonna pay a hundred dollars on the first date that's

03:42:49.440 super reasonable especially in this economy if the guy makes 20 an hour and he's spending a hundred

03:42:56.240 dollars on a date for the total the total date that's five hours of work he has to do just for

03:43:04.080 your portion though to be fair that's two and a half hours of work if he's making 20 an hour

03:43:09.520 so i'm thinking like hold on and i don't think it's rare for women to expect men to pay for first

03:43:16.000 dates in fact some women maybe it's not a deal breaker if you go 50 50 some women definitely a

03:43:20.720 deal breaker if it's the standard that women say you need to pay for the first date that translates

03:43:28.320 to you need to work two and a half hours to take me out and what if the guy works of a labor job what

03:43:36.880 if he's his job is difficult what if his job is i don't know what if he's a janitor what if he's

03:43:43.680 cleaning bathrooms what if construction or yeah i mean or he works a restaurant job and he's

03:43:48.080 fucking running around cleaning tables and shit and he has to all the shit that he has to do in

03:43:55.120 the restaurant or yeah construction he's breaking his body i start to think like you know the bow seems

03:44:01.920 like kind of a small ass compared to the ask of women go work two hours to take me on a date i mean

03:44:08.000 that's that's the entailment of men should pay on first dates you work two hours to take me on the

03:44:14.000 date like if i told you no you don't have to bow but go dig a ditch for two and a half hours then

03:44:22.320 we can go on the date you would laugh at me be like the fuck i'm not gonna do that all right

03:44:30.320 i mean i don't really know like yeah like totally like i mean if he can't if he can't pay then like

03:44:36.800 he can't pay like as long as like i'm having fun on the date and then if he communicates with me

03:44:41.760 before i'm like hey like i'm sorry like i can't pay and stuff i'd be like okay that's totally fine

03:44:45.760 we can do something else or we can do something that well i mean if he can't pay you should probably

03:44:49.680 plan something for free but right but it was your position earlier i understand there can be

03:44:56.400 circumstances where you would go on a date with a guy and you guys maybe he doesn't have money and you

03:45:01.360 would i mean you're in college that's i don't think it's peculiar that most college a lot of

03:45:06.800 college guys don't have money yeah um you'd go do something for free but you still did say you have

03:45:14.000 some expectation that the guy would pay for dates yeah for sure right but that expectation built into

03:45:19.680 it is okay if he's going to spend 20 40 50 dollars for your portion of the date which i don't think is

03:45:26.640 an unreasonable number for a guy to spend on the date that means working one two three four hours

03:45:33.040 to take you on the date so it's like why are women allowed to have these expectations but it's

03:45:38.960 like weird and icky for guys to be like you should bow you should do the laundry like the bow like well

03:45:46.000 you but you wouldn't do the laundry the first time you go to a guy's house which could be the second

03:45:49.600 third fourth don't you think it's a little weird he would ask me to bow on the first date though

03:45:53.920 yeah i'm granting that it's weird but when it comes to the laundry you said you wouldn't do that

03:45:58.640 yeah i think i think it's weird that like if like i went over to a guy's house and he'd be like oh can

03:46:04.800 you do my laundry i'd be like no maybe if i were in like a long-term relationship with him and i lived

03:46:09.360 with him yeah for sure so should men wait until they're in long-term relationships and only start

03:46:15.680 paying for dates then i don't know you don't know i mean no i do know i mean should men withhold

03:46:23.840 chivalry until the girlfriend or sorry until the woman's his girlfriend i don't think they would get

03:46:28.720 into a relationship so they didn't have chivalry though yes yeah that's it you're right yeah you're

03:46:34.800 spot on the men have to front load all men have to front load all the traditional gender roles or

03:46:42.000 whatever they have to front load it and some women are okay now that we're in a relationship

03:46:46.800 now we can be more 50 50 some women do that although some women still have the expectation

03:46:51.520 that it continue on in perpetuity but it's interesting so i guess the question again though

03:46:58.000 comes to what do women do what do you want them to do like well i'm asking you though i'm asking you

03:47:06.880 i know what i want women to like what do i do but what what do what do you do what do any women do

03:47:13.440 really

03:47:16.880 you probably like paint his fingernails or something what the

03:47:19.440 fuck she probably like paints his fingernails

03:47:26.400 like if you're the one being pursued what are you supposed to do i'm glad you like that yeah

03:47:32.640 i mean because usually women are not the ones pursuing so i mean i don't know what we're supposed

03:47:39.040 to do in like the beginning talking stage i know what to do in like a relationship but if you're being

03:47:45.280 pursued i don't i don't know what to do you could also pay 50 50 well that is that i would say that

03:47:50.800 that is in fact the dynamic is that there isn't really an expectation on what women should do i think

03:47:57.120 they that there would be like a degree of submissive of not being a pain in the ass making yourself

03:48:04.880 available yeah being actually yeah but acquiescing and i did that and deferring to him but i would

03:48:09.680 argue like i mean if uh the first time a girl comes over to my house yeah she should do the laundry

03:48:17.280 well you know my take on that well you would do it but whatever yeah i mean i i like to be i like to

03:48:23.200 to make his life convenient if he's working to pay for the date he's probably not gonna have time to

03:48:29.360 do his own laundry so i get that help him out if he really needs help yeah yeah plus it's kind of

03:48:35.200 fun put some music on you know i enjoy doing laundry the bow thing is just to see if she'll do one

03:48:41.280 really easy effortless uh completely benign thing just to make her man happy that's it

03:48:47.840 i'll do it regardless of how silly how silly it is um how about here here's a question um

03:48:58.960 i have can i ask a question brian yeah go ahead it's an it's in line with what you're asking but

03:49:03.760 i have i have a feeling that it's the bowing it's some type of showing some type of submission

03:49:09.520 that you just don't feel like he's owed yet right it's you're not subordinate to him you're his equal

03:49:14.960 you don't want him to think that you're less than him is that where we're going is that just

03:49:18.480 not comfortable with doing it like if i don't want to do it i don't i don't want to do it but

03:49:24.320 so what if and i don't know you very well what if he had a he got some driving tickets like

03:49:30.080 speeding tickets and he had to take some tests what are called a defensive driving tests online

03:49:36.000 and he's like well can you take the tests for me while we're on a date at home like i have to

03:49:40.000 finish these tests otherwise i can't do x y and z would you take those defensive driving

03:49:44.560 courses online for him no you wouldn't i don't i don't think no i wouldn't i mean he got the ticket

03:49:52.800 he should do it i mean like i have my own life i have to do other things but you're like with him

03:49:57.120 y'all are dating and he's like oh i can't go i can't go on the date because i got to take these

03:50:01.280 tests and um yeah we're hanging out anyways will you take these tests for me no i wouldn't you would

03:50:08.000 tell him no i won't no is it like are you saying like he's busy working and that's why he doesn't

03:50:12.560 have time like he can't go on the date because yeah he can't he wants to take you out you're like

03:50:16.800 hey i'm here to go out on our date and he's like well i can't go out on the date because i've got

03:50:20.960 to take these defensive driving courses and otherwise i can't do whatever and you're like

03:50:25.840 well i'll and you're over he's like well can you help me with them i've got to do this and do this

03:50:30.640 and then maybe we can go on a date or but i have to get this done can you help me with it i

03:50:34.480 haven't studied i would i mean i wouldn't know what he like i would i have to but he knows but

03:50:40.560 you're smarter than him you are unequivocally smarter than him he knows that he picked the

03:50:45.520 right girlfriend could you help him and take this for him and show him that you're going to help him

03:50:51.040 take these i think i would help him but i wouldn't like take so you would help him yes i would help

03:50:54.640 him yeah but like it's like i would help him with other stuff too but i just like the valiant thing

03:51:00.560 like i just can't but you but you would help him take those online courses i would help him but i

03:51:05.360 wouldn't do it for him i feel like it's like like like if he told me like oh sit down take it for me

03:51:10.800 instead of me like him and i sitting side by side and i'm like okay like this is like why this so y'all

03:51:15.760 will sit side by side on your day you say hey in lieu of the date we're going to take this test since

03:51:19.920 he can't take me out on this test on this date you always reschedule a date you know i mean but you

03:51:25.280 would stay with him and take the test with him yeah okay so you do have some traditional gender

03:51:34.160 expectations of men do you think and you and i'm assuming you're totally fine with that yeah like

03:51:41.040 you want that even is it okay for men to have traditional gender expectations of women depends

03:51:46.080 what they are being submissive i like what what would be a one uh it's the same thing with men like it

03:51:54.320 depends like what they are like you know what do you mean like you're saying like if i like if

03:52:00.160 men should have traditional expectations of women it's the same thing like with men like it depends

03:52:03.600 it depends what they are for them well i don't even know the traditional gender expectations that

03:52:08.160 women have uh that they have of men that they've abandoned in at any point so like the

03:52:16.960 the traditional order of things women haven't relinquished any of their demands for men but it

03:52:23.680 seems like women definitely want men to relinquish traditional demands of women

03:52:30.160 but so what are the are there any like okay i guess if there's a traditional expectation on

03:52:39.360 what can men

03:52:43.280 expect from women are we allowed to have expectations of women yeah of course okay what are those things

03:52:49.840 care for them like that goes both ways yeah exactly but so when we're talking about gender roles

03:52:56.400 then we're we're talking about thing man does and then thing woman does so caring for each other

03:53:03.120 goes both ways right um but i can list things that are completely exclusive to men that women seem to

03:53:10.720 one directionally care about so it's like okay paying for the date well in order for somebody only one

03:53:16.320 person can pay for the day well you can go 50 50 but typically men don't have an expectation that the

03:53:21.360 woman pays for the entire date the same way that women expect men to pay for the entire date okay all

03:53:26.640 those other acts of chivalry that we talked about opening the car door being a provider being a protector

03:53:32.000 continue continuing to pay for dates observing the sidewalk rule these are like one these are one

03:53:39.600 directional unilateral unilateral expectations that women place on men that i think would fall under like

03:53:46.080 a traditional gender role expectation so what women have said i think is i want to be a modern woman

03:53:54.880 i think it goes like this i want the benefits of modernity i want the benefits of traditional treatment

03:54:02.880 i want to reject though the uh women want to also coincidingly reject perhaps ways in which

03:54:13.920 traditional gender roles don't uh hmm are not beneficial to them so

03:54:24.240 i think though that that's a raw deal for men why is it that even modern women are still holding men

03:54:35.840 to traditional gender role expectations but women get to completely uh completely abandon abandon

03:54:44.480 any sort of traditional expectation on their end i feel like not all women do i mean obviously you have

03:54:51.600 though i have yeah but but do you think that's fair i mean fair in like in what sense like it's because

03:54:58.160 you expect a man to be very traditional but you're not like willing like you seem very unwilling to

03:55:05.440 even entertain the idea of being a traditional woman so you're you're wanting full freedom but wanting

03:55:13.120 expectation from the man at the same time like it it's gonna clash no matter what yeah well i feel like

03:55:20.240 it's what we had talked about and stuff like i'd obviously like sit with a man and like help him

03:55:24.400 with stuff so it's like i'm not expecting him to be like like all like all the time like paying for my

03:55:31.760 food like all that stuff it's like obviously would split stuff and like but i think it makes sense

03:55:36.240 it does okay in regard to what to try and bring it full circle circle i think it's what do women have to

03:55:43.120 offer and even in a dating format we have our submissiveness to offer that that's a power that we do

03:55:49.680 have to give because we don't expect them to pay or we expect them to pay we expect them to protect

03:55:56.080 us we expect all these things that are like it's like it's intuitive for you're like well of course

03:56:00.480 a woman wants her the guy to do that wouldn't you go you wouldn't go out on a date with the guy well

03:56:04.560 why like have you asked yourself why do i assume all these properties for this guy and give him

03:56:09.600 literally nothing well what do you like for like what do you what are qualities of like submissives like to

03:56:15.440 you just so i can understand that so that example i gave you was a little it was it was so specific

03:56:19.760 because it actually happened okay and i in the means like while it was happening i didn't think

03:56:23.520 about it but the way we behaved with each other he was deciding this is the type of person i want to

03:56:30.240 be my wife who i want to raise my children she's competent she's really smart but she's also willing to

03:56:35.840 like help me and wash my dishes and do my laundry and she's even doing all these other things but

03:56:43.120 she's not saying she's too big or too bold or too great to do these things for me and over time

03:56:48.800 that added up in his mind he was willing to just pay for everything even though he had no money at

03:56:53.520 all at all for a very long time he was willing to do all those things because i was i didn't know what

03:56:59.440 i was doing but i was giving a little bit and he was giving a little bit but i was just giving what i

03:57:04.640 could as a woman and he was giving what he could as a man right and like i feel like i would definitely

03:57:09.760 like do those kinds of actions if like i was in like a really long-term relationship but like what

03:57:14.640 you said if like i was going over to his house for the first time i i wouldn't want to do his laundry

03:57:19.200 but why not i just if i don't know the guy like if i'm like why are you going to his house if you

03:57:24.720 don't know him don't people go on i don't go to any guy's house that i don't know i wouldn't

03:57:30.320 if you i feel like that's like the like modern thing like a lot of people go over

03:57:33.920 for like for the first date she's a bit different you know but like like we're hoping that by the

03:57:39.440 time you're going to his house there's like some sort of rapport established like some sort of like

03:57:46.080 relationship or some sort of not not full-blown relationship but just it's not just like yeah

03:57:52.480 like i'm not just meeting you today and at your house like it's further than that you get what i'm

03:57:57.840 saying i feel like it well for me i feel like it have to start with we're both doing the laundry

03:58:02.160 together and then when it gets to that point like i could i would do your feminist no i i'd say like

03:58:10.160 not like extreme but like you should you want equality you want you want i mean i'm just hearing

03:58:14.720 i didn't want to label you feminist but a lot of what you're saying is it needs to be equal it needs

03:58:19.440 to be equal but i don't think you're understanding how you're describing it isn't as equal as you're

03:58:24.240 thinking it is in your mind no i understand so yeah yeah i'm just trying to like get my like

03:58:28.320 i would do those actions if he would work with me on them like so we laundry we do like laundry

03:58:35.360 together at first and then like if i enjoy doing the laundry and stuff and even if he asked me he's

03:58:40.320 like hey can you do the laundry this time obviously i would and yeah and then it'll and then all the

03:58:43.920 time things will be 50 50 just 50 50 is gonna be the basis of y'all's relationship it doesn't have

03:58:49.280 to be 50 no no but that's what's your but that's the but that's what i'm trying to say so it's like

03:58:54.000 so that means like the 50 50 laundry 50 50 dates so that's just that's gonna be the yeah okay i mean

03:59:00.800 i've been in relationships like that that before and it's totally fine with me you know i guess here's

03:59:05.760 my perspective like do you want a guy to lead in the relationship i mean

03:59:17.520 here's a bit of a super quick test though um and leading in a relationship is a bit different than

03:59:21.920 the initiative taker but i think these are somewhat related and interconnected so do you want a guy to

03:59:27.920 make the first move yeah yeah well i mean you said you've never asked a guy out so i mean it occurs to

03:59:36.400 me that because of this de facto you do want a guy well yeah but like i'm like do you mean like asking

03:59:43.680 them to like or like pushing them to make the first move or just like naturally like because like

03:59:48.640 what well i mean how would you so you would walk up to a guy and be like hey you should hit on me

03:59:53.280 like that would be you making the first no but like giving them the intention to make the first move

03:59:59.760 well that would be you taking okay first move that would be you making the first move but i mean

04:00:05.120 has that been the case for you you're like hey buddy no can you no yeah so okay you want a guy to

04:00:10.960 make the first move do you want a guy so that could be like have you ever been like approached after

04:00:14.880 a class or on school or at a party or something like this yeah right um or maybe they slide into

04:00:19.920 a dm or have you had a dating app before no okay no dating apps but you've maybe had a guy slide into

04:00:25.280 your dms yeah has that gone anywhere or no uh i i usually don't respond okay so you meet people

04:00:30.640 organically in person yeah okay so from there i'm assuming okay let's say a guy who you do think is

04:00:39.040 cute comes up to you you want him to initiate beyond just hi like you probably want him to carry

04:00:44.560 the conversation a little bit fair yeah okay then i'm assuming you want him to ask for your number

04:00:49.680 yeah get social media whatever and then he probably has to make the first move text you first i mean it

04:00:55.040 depends on who gets the number because i'm like i mean the girl can i don't know the girl can ask too

04:00:59.040 it doesn't like do you though most of the time the guy asks for the number yeah most of the time yeah

04:01:03.760 okay and then from there he's most of the time the guy is going to be like hey we should hang out

04:01:08.640 this day so something like that right to that effect okay from there then you meet up with him

04:01:14.480 and then from there i'm assuming he's going to maybe he sets the plan meet me here this time blah blah

04:01:20.160 um from there moving things forward um whether it's the first set and you can watch rinse repeat

04:01:26.880 the step until you're comfortable enough or whatever but moving things forward do you want him to

04:01:31.520 initiate the first kiss yeah okay like have you been the one who goes in or does i mean i feel like

04:01:39.280 like have both you know girls say that but i don't know it's too like girls like to process it i feel

04:01:47.360 like usually the guy is usually the guy yeah going i get that you meet yeah you go into but the guy is

04:01:54.080 going to initiate it so um uh and then moving things forward from there physically i'm assuming you have some

04:02:01.040 expectation that the guy move things forward from there like physically yeah physically like you

04:02:05.920 know whatever you're looking up whatever um okay so in at least in that dynamic you do want that i mean

04:02:14.240 that's a major component of traditional gender roles that often gets like overlooked because that's

04:02:20.240 actually i personally think the burden of initiative is kind of a massive component and massive bur i don't

04:02:27.040 want to frame it like a burden but it is something that kind of uniquely typically falls on men yeah

04:02:33.680 um now for the most part so

04:02:39.520 my perspective is is as women if you want men to be leaders and take initiative

04:02:45.920 i think that one that ought to continue into the core throughout the course of the relationship and

04:02:50.480 i think most women do want that to continue through the course of the relationship but if you want a

04:02:55.200 guy to be a leader you need to be a follower like i can't lead somebody who like in a if i compare it to

04:03:02.720 a dance there's a leader and a follower you can't have two people leading in the dance you're gonna trip

04:03:07.680 over each other's toes uh in a relationship i feel it's the same way i'm not saying the man's a dictator

04:03:14.080 i'm not saying he's a tyrant i'm not saying you're you can't give uh you you can't you know i'm gonna

04:03:20.800 completely ignore all your opinions and etc but i don't like in order for me to have responsibility

04:03:27.840 in a relationship i need some level of authority in that relationship so if i'm and also if like men's

04:03:35.440 traditional roles are protecting and that's not just like if i'm gonna protect it's not just

04:03:41.280 like some guy's gonna mug us it's not just physical protection it's protecting the relationship

04:03:46.640 it's protect protecting you in spirit protecting you in mind and i do think talking about like

04:03:53.120 people have bad habits and shit i do think it's the case sometimes women have dated guys who either

04:03:59.680 were uh doormats or they dated guys who were a bit weak and women might have might be a bit lippy

04:04:06.880 or might be a little sassy or might be xyz with with a guy and you got to tell her like

04:04:14.560 that's not how it's going to be with me but in addition to that there's certain like and i think

04:04:19.360 you're you're probably going to disagree with me on this and look i think it's a perhaps an age

04:04:25.040 difference here too because i think when you're in college people like to party and drink and whatever

04:04:30.400 but if you're in a relationship with a guy say you really liked him you've been dating him for a

04:04:34.560 year and you're do you're in a sorority so you go to parties i'm imagining if your boyfriend was like

04:04:40.720 you're asking him hey um what do you think about this outfit and he's like too revealing don't want

04:04:45.440 you to wear it would you would you be a uh a front is fronted is that a fucking word affronted would

04:04:53.200 you be not up front but would you be take a front to your boyfriend saying hey i don't want you to wear

04:04:59.760 that i'd be a little like upset would it be controlling yeah okay what about if he was like

04:05:07.360 hey um that's hard because i i want to be charitable with the age difference when people are 18 19 20 21

04:05:14.160 whatever they're partying although there's women that age who don't party and drink or whatever

04:05:19.680 but if your boyfriend was like hey look maybe you can envision yourself when you're a bit older and

04:05:23.760 you're mid to late 20s and your boyfriend who you really like and you think he's a great guy maybe

04:05:28.720 he's even the one he's like hey i don't want you going out to bars i don't want you going out to

04:05:33.440 clubs what's your response i feel like i'd have to have like i try to understand his point of view

04:05:41.760 but also i like i feel like that's like a lack of trust on his part because lack of trust i've been

04:05:47.200 like obviously i'm going to be loyal to him when i go out and stuff but i do want to have like i'm

04:05:52.080 going to go out with my girlfriends obviously but i want to yeah yeah but he doesn't want you to do

04:05:56.000 that though you can go get brunch with your girlfriends you can go get you you want to go

04:06:00.320 get a dinner with your girlfriends he doesn't want you at the bar he doesn't want you at the club

04:06:06.080 you don't like it do you it's like i don't prefer it you don't prefer it i don't prefer it

04:06:10.960 right what does a bar and a club have for you there that like brunch or a nice dinner or like on

04:06:20.080 there's like christmas like like what is it about a bar and a club that makes it like

04:06:27.440 you like for you that like yeah what what is that like how does that add to your life like

04:06:32.960 what's the benefit of a bar having fun with my friends like you know like but why does it have

04:06:37.040 to be that and like how does that allow you guys to be like progress like progressive life like you can

04:06:44.000 have brunch with your girlfriends where you guys are discussing your potential law school or

04:06:48.320 yeah things like that like isn't that more like beneficial to you as like a whole individual

04:06:55.600 it could be beneficial but it's like it's not for the benefit it's i just want to have fun let me ask

04:07:00.080 you this so you're dating a guy you're in your mid-20s late 20s uh and he wants to go to the strip club

04:07:05.600 with his boys do you have an issue with it

04:07:10.640 the cognitive dissonance you're struggling with that thought because you're like why would he dare go

04:07:15.840 to the strip club but why would you go well let's get the answer first but would you have an issue

04:07:20.640 with it he wants to go then he wants to go i trust him but it's not ideal though it's not ideal but

04:07:26.640 like i'm not gonna be like no you can't go you know what i mean like well i think in in relationships

04:07:32.800 there are instances where you can say i don't want you to do that yeah

04:07:37.920 like i don't want you to fuck that person right obviously right don't have sex with that person you

04:07:42.400 know um otherwise i won't be here but um and what if he said no then i break up with him

04:07:51.760 but look in or not break like what do you mean like like no to the client no you're like not going

04:07:57.280 no no so say like how he was saying like there's going to be things that you're not going to want

04:08:01.520 your significant other to do and what if he looked at you in your face and was like well that makes me

04:08:06.960 uncomfortable i like to look at ass on the pole i want to go because my boys are going i don't care

04:08:13.120 how you feel this is just what you're gonna like this is what i'm doing like it doesn't it that

04:08:18.160 doesn't sound good does it no it doesn't and like obviously we'd have like a conversation about it but

04:08:23.280 it's like okay like if he's if he wants to go then i can't stop him like you know he's gonna make his

04:08:28.560 own just decisions he's a grown adult and you're you're you're gonna be okay with that and i'm just

04:08:32.880 asking just to understand no yeah i mean obviously like it's gonna make me a little bit uncomfortable

04:08:38.560 but like i can't stop a person doing something that they want to do right just like he i guess

04:08:43.600 he wouldn't be able to stop you from going to the club or the bar so you guys are just gonna we're

04:08:48.480 just gonna go to the club and bar and strip clubs that's just healthy so healthy so fun so loving i mean

04:08:54.640 we're in our 20s i mean like i don't want to like you could be serious in your 20s as well i don't know

04:09:00.640 if i want to be though like fair you know like i don't i don't even know if i like want to like

04:09:05.760 relationship but i mean even besides like a relationship i think that the things that you

04:09:10.240 do in your free time are gonna benefit or set you back on the things that you want to do you know so

04:09:16.960 i just don't think there's any benefit to the club and and the bar and honestly if i could go back in

04:09:22.160 time i would take a lot of party in a way yes so that's fair i i guess um i don't know that we we've

04:09:31.520 been like kind of jumping around from different topic to different topic but

04:09:38.400 trying to think here i was going to tie it back into the like for the perfect man

04:09:43.280 would you not work or whatever i guess when it relates to we were talking about being submissive

04:09:49.280 and traditional gender roles and all this stuff i do think that like you wouldn't be submissive

04:09:56.800 it sounds like to your boyfriend or future husband like you'd want a more 50 50 equality dynamic is that

04:10:03.680 fair to say i'm just not that type of submit like i'm not as i don't think i'm a submissive person

04:10:08.080 really i guess here's what when i was asking earlier though like for a perfect guy and he's rich

04:10:13.600 and you never have to work and i understand that career can meet more than just a financial need

04:10:22.080 it can meet a fulfillment need you can feel like you're you're doing something it can keep you busy

04:10:28.080 it can sometimes it can be fun exciting whatever but also a lot of times it's a lot of work especially

04:10:33.040 as a lawyer there's a lot of you know a lot of paperwork it can be stressful long hours etc etc

04:10:39.440 uh and some of it might be undesirable work right but in totality you would say well in totality

04:10:47.760 i want to do it right but even looking at other jobs you're working in some corporation whatever

04:10:55.840 the reason i asked that question of would you give up career in college for the perfect man who's rich

04:11:02.720 is i think that women have traded because they don't want well i mean there's other

04:11:09.120 other components here women you you have traded being submissive to a husband to being submissive

04:11:15.440 to an employer to a boss to a corporation right and it's it's interesting to me though because

04:11:27.440 on one hand i i think that a husband typically and i think a lot of men are especially today are not

04:11:35.120 at all demanding and many men are doormats and i think a lot of women

04:11:39.440 fucking run their relationships not gonna lie but even then if you were to come across a guy who was

04:11:46.880 one of the more uh traditional dynamic were you more submissive women still wouldn't make the trade

04:11:53.360 but it's i'm trying to think the best way to phrase this i think a corporation is going to be more

04:12:02.000 cold than the husband i think a corporation is going to ask you for more than your husband

04:12:06.720 the corporation your boss is going to say show up at 6 a.m at 7 a.m 8 a.m wear this

04:12:14.880 i mean that's that's literally work wear a uniform we say yes wear a uniform like most men maybe if

04:12:20.960 the guy's like hey just don't wear revealing but wear whatever the fuck you want like he's not going to

04:12:26.080 be like okay you have to wear a blouse today you have to wear whatever like most men you have

04:12:30.240 kind of freedom in terms of selection but if a guy's like hey i don't i don't want you to wear

04:12:35.120 like go out in public with your ass hanging out um which a lot of women do uh that's somehow an

04:12:41.680 issue but of course that would never fly in the workplace like if your job was like look we don't

04:12:46.880 want you to you know we need you to dress modestly in the workplace yeah yes sir yes boss even like super

04:12:54.320 liberal women they're gonna be like oh of course like in a professional workplace setting i'm gonna wear like

04:12:58.720 a suit or whatever whatever women wear like a dress skirt whatever um but like your boyfriend

04:13:05.040 doesn't want you to go to the club with your titties popping out and you're wearing a miniskirt

04:13:10.560 whoa okay that's controlling you've traded submission from your husband your boyfriend

04:13:16.800 to your employer your employer says clean that mess up if you were if you're uh you work in a

04:13:21.920 restaurant clean that up first day go deal with them clean that up scrub the dishes or you know doing

04:13:27.280 whatever um clean up the mess uh you know do this do that do that do that i think a husband

04:13:33.520 a boyfriend is gonna ask you for a lot less and uh i don't know you guys have traded it you've traded it

04:13:41.280 honestly that's such a great perspective i never actually thought about it in that way but honestly

04:13:45.680 like everything that you said that you're willing to do and what you're not willing to do is literally

04:13:50.080 submitting to a job it's submitting to professionalism but but the the job doesn't love you the job is

04:13:56.560 not going to care about you like that the job is not going to care if you're sick the job is not

04:14:00.800 going to care if your mom gets cancer they'll fire you yeah but you know who are you're you're having

04:14:06.880 bad period cramps your job does not care but your husband would

04:14:15.120 your cold corporation the cold corporation that you know they'll look and look i'll be charitable

04:14:21.600 here yeah you could marry a guy who whatever he divorces you that could happen too you could lose the

04:14:27.600 marriage um but just like with a job you can like women will say in response to well okay but your

04:14:33.600 husband could leave you okay well your job could fire you well you can find a new job well you can

04:14:39.040 find a new husband yeah um but it's like i think this idea of like a rejection of a more submissive

04:14:47.360 dynamic in a relationship it's like okay you've great so okay you won't date the millionaire guy who

04:14:55.120 in this hypothetical scenario you won't do it for the the millionaire guy who treats you perfectly perfectly

04:15:01.200 loyal will never leave you you never have to work a day in your life you never have to lift a finger

04:15:08.560 or you'll be like a i mean i'm thinking of like the the waitress who makes like 15 an hour

04:15:19.120 and she's like busting tables and taking order taking order like meal orders not orders orders

04:15:26.480 uh they're she's cleaning shit up fucking busting her ass and like that girl she'll do that but like

04:15:34.880 a a guy comes along hey i'm doing well you don't have to work let me take care of you oh it's like in

04:15:41.040 the front oh my god my feminist brain can't comprehend i don't know it's interesting it's

04:15:47.840 it's i just want it is backwards it's so anti-family as well absolutely anti-tradition it's like you take

04:15:54.800 both parents out of the home yeah yeah yeah um i don't know okay well uh food for thought food for

04:16:04.320 thought look i'm not saying uh it's it's been a massive trade though in society i'm not saying that

04:16:10.240 we should that i think it's that i'm not saying that women shouldn't be allowed to work or anything

04:16:15.840 like that i'm just saying i'm speaking descriptively so descriptively it is the case that although

04:16:22.400 look uh this idea that women were 100 precluded from working in the 1920s 30s 40s 50s that's

04:16:30.960 bullshit um that that's that's bs this idea that women couldn't work complete bullshit now there were

04:16:39.520 some components of the economy where but like socially it was less expected of women there was an

04:16:44.800 expectation for family and children but it's it's this interesting trade it's this interesting trade

04:16:52.080 where it's like okay well uh now there's a economic reality where i mean corporations love it the u.s

04:17:01.440 government tax system loves it now they're the the the cat's out of the bag i don't think we can ever

04:17:08.560 really fix this but i'm not saying women should should be prevented from working but it's like okay

04:17:17.520 now it takes two incomes to raise a house to have a household to to have a family and people are even

04:17:23.760 even if you have two incomes people are like economically looking at it like man this is

04:17:28.160 fucked up like you got two incomes and you can't even pay rent you can't buy a house

04:17:34.480 oh it's expensive it's all fucked it's gigafucked and look i'm i'm just saying it's uh descriptively

04:17:41.760 it is the case that when you double the labor pool that's gonna uh corporations fucking love that oh

04:17:50.160 yeah and even tax system loves that yeah even the airbnb i'm in like i can see the family it's like a

04:17:56.400 husband and a wife and they still actually have to like rent out a part of they built a tiny home in

04:18:01.760 their backyard you know what i'm saying so it's like even with at this point even with two incomes

04:18:07.440 it's still not enough they're having to have a stranger sleep in their backyard you know because

04:18:12.640 i am a stranger so and so it is this it is this dilemma because obviously obviously um you know

04:18:22.720 people should have freedom and should have choice but like the old order of things where there was

04:18:29.360 uh where there was a sort of like okay the man's the breadwinner the woman is taken care of she takes

04:18:38.320 care of the kids stays at home the man goes out to work uh i think there's something there where it's like

04:18:47.840 what have been the economic manifestations of like opening the floodgates of we're going to try this

04:18:54.000 experiment where uh women are going to put off having family having children until their late 20s early 30s

04:19:02.080 and we're going to uh double the labor pool so then court which corporations love because you basically

04:19:11.680 effectively cut the wage that you have to pay people in half

04:19:15.520 i'm not saying we shouldn't have done it but i'm saying here are the perhaps unintended consequences

04:19:24.960 of doubling the labor pool yeah there's like almost just exactly there's like a surplus of workers at this

04:19:30.560 point and like not enough actual like quality jobs to where one income is okay i don't know if that makes

04:19:37.120 sense but it's like now like imp like being an employee isn't as valuable anymore and i well i think the other thing

04:19:46.720 is uh it was something about um

04:19:52.560 like on one hand yes you've given women more choice but you've also taken the choice away from women

04:19:59.120 who wanted or who want a traditional dynamic because that's really rare now for a guy to be able to make enough money

04:20:07.360 to just be like nah you don't have to work now it's like a necessity it's no longer women have

04:20:14.080 a choice of pursuing career but there's no longer this other choice that women used to have which was

04:20:20.160 like you had a choice as a woman in the 50s in the 60s oh i'll you know what um i'll find a guy and

04:20:27.760 we'll get married and have kids and i want to stay at home that choice has almost entirely been taken

04:20:34.960 away from women yeah and even now like even some stay-at-home moms actually still have to come up

04:20:40.560 with like a a passive income from home just to be able to still help like i'm talking about even if

04:20:46.720 it's baking sourdough bread they're not just doing it for their family they're actually having to like

04:20:51.200 sell it and bake 300 loaves a week like i follow these creators i like sourdough but like the point is is

04:20:59.600 even being a stay-at-home mom it's like because of the way the economy is it's still required like

04:21:06.000 that means as a stay-at-home mom i still actually have to make a passive income somehow i have to

04:21:10.560 become innovative i got diapers or i got this yeah 11 year old so yeah i was a young mom but

04:21:18.400 um so and even that with me like my son's father is dead and i've had to take over so i understood when

04:21:24.000 i heard that yeah so i've had to take over in ways and let me tell you something mama tired okay i'm

04:21:30.720 tired you know i don't i don't want to do this i don't you know and you are young so i think there's

04:21:37.440 some naivety and and ignorance is bliss which is why i think you're so like you feel so strongly about

04:21:43.840 having things a specific way but i promise you as you get older you are gonna be humbled in ways

04:21:50.240 that you wish you weren't you know so yeah that's fair to say like i'm definitely like i don't know

04:21:55.360 everything in the world like i'm in college like yeah some of the stuff that like i'm learning right

04:21:59.440 now like i don't even know if it's 100 true and i just i just want you to be very open and not be

04:22:05.440 so stuck in the circled reasoning of i want what i want but and that's just it like you're gonna get

04:22:12.160 stuck in a circle and happiness is never gonna be able to be attained because you're gonna be trying to

04:22:18.000 fulfill yourself constantly and it's just not gonna be it's you're not gonna be capable to

04:22:23.920 fulfill yourself it's just there's always gonna be some sort of unhappiness or something you're

04:22:28.640 looking for in some shape or form you know yeah i definitely like hear you like i yeah i am taking

04:22:35.440 it from a different perspective now and like obviously like yeah i'm trying to understand

04:22:38.720 it from all perspectives like obviously i know my my opinion is not going to be everyone's opinion

04:22:42.640 and also my opinion might always be the right opinion yeah so yeah and honestly i love that that

04:22:47.680 the fact that you're even willing to at least being open is is gonna help set you apart in

04:22:52.880 the long run it might not take you 10 years it might take you two if that makes sense no i don't

04:22:57.040 think we're gonna change her mind but she's she's probably pretty firm in her her position but um

04:23:04.320 i i think that uh what are we gonna do the twitch yeah there's something else i needed to finish up on

04:23:10.960 this topic here i'm trying to remember um oh shit i mean even from the male perspective though um

04:23:20.000 this idea that like career and i think it this would apply more so to the men than it can to women

04:23:26.560 but this idea that career is like some ultimate fulfillment in life i don't think that's the case i think

04:23:32.720 when people are on their deathbeds i don't think they're gonna think about wow i really closed that deal

04:23:37.120 or i don't know i oh my god you're gonna look back and um on your deathbed i assuming you one

04:23:44.160 day have kids or have a family or whatever i think most people man or woman they looked they look back

04:23:50.000 on their life it's gonna be family it's gonna be kids i don't think you're gonna be thinking oh man i

04:23:55.280 that one time i was on the prosecute prosecution and i uh that trial oh my god i don't think people

04:24:02.320 think like that so i think like ultimate fulfillment in life i think is family yeah and kids think

04:24:08.720 about your parents too like i'm sure when your parents are on their deathbed they're not going to be

04:24:12.960 saying oh yeah like i've worked really hard at this job they're going to be like no i had a beautiful

04:24:18.160 daughter and she grew and and learned and that's what they're that's what they're going to be very

04:24:23.840 proud of at that moment it's not going to be even the financial status that they're passing at you

04:24:29.920 you know no yeah for sure i just think well obviously i'm in college so my entire life right

04:24:34.560 now is the workforce and like trying to get a job trying to get that degree and stuff so obviously i

04:24:39.360 feel like when i'm older i'm definitely going to think something else of it because i don't even

04:24:42.960 know if i'm not even thinking of like marriage or kids right now or anything like that so by design

04:24:48.080 yeah yeah that's what the college is to make you think yeah career money but we have to remember

04:24:55.520 the back of your mind know that that's by design to get you off the course it's to break the family

04:25:02.080 unit absolutely yeah anyways we're i'm not trying to you know just hyper focus in on you but that was

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04:26:48.800 show notes here oh shit i closed it whoops one sec let me get that going uh let's just do here we're

04:26:54.960 just uh let's you're good uh we have our good friend stifler ask everyone to rate their own looks

04:27:02.720 on a scale of one to ten you can't pick seven uh rate your own looks on a scale of one to ten you

04:27:07.440 can't pick seven starting with you i guess six six okay eight six

04:27:15.520 eight this question four i don't know is it are you just okay is that that's your answer sure yeah

04:27:23.760 i mean how i mean it's subjective right like yeah it is subjective what's your subjective rating

04:27:29.200 five okay what about you eight eight can i pass and you can't you gotta answer why can't i you're

04:27:38.560 so beautiful by the way so into the mic into the mic oh i and i don't know i just this is how i think

04:27:44.240 ron i think i i you have to hear me out okay i don't think it makes it doesn't make sense for me to

04:27:50.880 judge myself what what what does it matter what i think of how i look except for i that how i look

04:27:59.360 to myself is how the i think the world sees how i look to me like that's how i look i could say i

04:28:05.200 love how i look i'm confident my mother raised a beautiful child but if i'm going to rate it on a

04:28:09.840 scale i i'd have to say how do i think others see me not how i see myself well how do you see

04:28:15.360 yourself i think i look just fine i think i look great give yourself eight but this is from your

04:28:21.200 personal perspective so i think i am an above average so i'd say six okay sure own it what about you

04:28:29.920 6.5 6.5 okay i give myself a what did i say oh no i i used to say uh okay i give myself a 4.75

04:28:40.000 okay that's it yeah i mean i think that's low that seems low that seems great you better than that

04:28:45.040 oh yeah oh thank you what do you rate me then well including your personality well i'll do with

04:28:51.040 and without with your personality i'm gonna go on eight you got a great personality yeah okay there

04:28:57.120 you go without without i would still say seven all right there you go it's it's a match made in heaven

04:29:05.760 uh i am gonna make you walk four hours back after we have text that so just thank you just

04:29:10.480 heads up just heads up not again wait where do you live where do you live again oklahoma i'm gonna

04:29:17.280 make you walk back to oklahoma from santa barbara it's gonna be a lot longer than four hours i'm

04:29:21.920 gonna tell you right now i'll provide you with um some hot hands hand warmers or something you'll

04:29:27.280 be fine it's only winter time december um i'll just get her an uber it's an easy uber

04:29:32.960 or oh yeah a couple thousand a couple g's on an uber yeah hell yeah um okay well i don't really

04:29:40.160 have much pushback on the looks rating thing what did you rate yourself again at eight oh okay

04:29:49.360 um last time i gave myself a seven you said i can't wait you upgraded yeah you said it can't be seven

04:29:55.120 uh okay um do we i guess we can rapid fire the the okay do we have the age stuff nick no gender

04:30:05.600 swaps yet oh yeah do we have for chair one do we have age

04:30:16.320 just chair two and okay oh there's not even age progression yeah okay that's fine um

04:30:23.200 those are fine yeah it's not a big deal we'll skip that um okay uh blasting through okay we did looks

04:30:30.080 we did that uh here i'm gonna blast through the questionnaire i know you weren't here for it but

04:30:34.160 i'll just ask you the question then directly um oh god let's see starting here we're gonna start with

04:30:42.400 one sec uh do you prefer jackie or jacqueline jacqueline jacqueline am i saying it right you're

04:30:50.000 french she should be saying it like the best jacqueline yes yes okay so you circled you agree

04:30:59.120 with the following statement women do not have equal rights to men in the usa they don't uh how

04:31:03.840 so oh we have more rights oh okay all right yeah you got me there you got me there i thought that was

04:31:13.680 went without saying no that was you bamboozled me there what do you think do you think men and

04:31:20.080 women have equal rights in the usa oh god um go ahead lay it on don't worry no one's gonna bully

04:31:27.920 you don't worry you're fine um i mean all i can think of it is just like the equal like pay thing

04:31:34.160 like don't isn't it right no yeah well is there anything else besides that not that i can think of

04:31:39.760 on the top of my okay so you would you be confident saying let's assume uh i'm not going to get into

04:31:45.280 like a wage gap debate but let's assume that um putting that aside yeah uh would you be prepared

04:31:52.560 to say that men and women in the usa have equal rights say so yeah like i like what are you leaning

04:32:01.760 towards no or i'm assuming that's the case like a little women have more rights than than men is that

04:32:07.760 like her you agree with her no no okay uh so aside from the wage gap thing is there anything else

04:32:15.440 that you can think of that might not that i can like actually like genuinely off the top of your

04:32:20.480 head no okay all right um how about this one um do you think um you said you're a feminist i wouldn't

04:32:29.360 say i'm like a feminist look i i feel i feel a little bad because i feel like maybe the other people

04:32:34.560 on the panel might lean a bit more less liberal or less feminist or whatever but look we're

04:32:42.480 nobody's gonna attack you nobody's gonna hate you or whatever we're open to having differing opinions

04:32:48.880 and that's 100 okay on the show for people to have different perspectives um we're not going to dogpile

04:32:55.200 you i've just been surrounded by people that have way more extreme views than me like in terms of

04:33:00.720 being more liberal yeah liberal feminist and stuff so like i don't know i try and keep an open mind

04:33:05.840 obviously i'm going to believe what i believe but like in these conversations like i try i really do

04:33:09.920 try and get no you seem open-minded okay pretty reasonable wait you said you're in a sorority

04:33:14.560 right yeah can you say which one uh you don't have no no you don't have to i think i'm in theta

04:33:20.560 kappa alpha oh yeah theta they're pretty based they're yeah no they are they're cool i feel i don't know

04:33:26.000 i feel like people in sororities are it's okay reasonable anyways whatever no there's there's

04:33:32.160 there's a stereotype can i do you know the is there a handshake like she has the dg wave is there

04:33:38.560 can i do it yeah is that offensive to like thetas or whatever am i doing it no okay you're gonna have

04:33:45.360 to screenshot this and send this to all your sisters wait am i doing it wrong are we doing gang signs

04:33:49.760 right now no no that's the k and then a oh wait we and then oh uh sure i feel like i'm gonna get

04:33:56.160 jumped after this sure sure either theta's or some gang or something um they don't even know that

04:34:01.120 i'm on this so okay i guess i'll find out that's all good um i guess really rapid fire uh do you think

04:34:08.160 that uh do you think that there's a patriarchy a patriarchy evil patriarchy

04:34:14.560 no okay uh do you think women are oppressed in the usa

04:34:22.480 in like like a political way or like uh just whatever your sense of the term oppressed is

04:34:31.200 in some sort of way but not like in an like insane insane like extreme kind of way okay that's

04:34:37.840 right i i won't i'm not going to linger on uh those topics i will get it back more to some more

04:34:43.360 dating questions though um let's see uh actually sav let me i'm gonna do your uh hold on okay i'm

04:34:52.720 gonna do some of your notes here oh my god can we just like have you have like diabetic coma on stream

04:34:58.000 is that is that cool are you down to like push it a little bit uh oh my god it's such a goblin

04:35:04.240 it's such i'm joking okay i'm joking maybe i'll be back one day because you were pretty nice to me

04:35:11.120 you're like super nice i don't know what all the like people that say bad things about the podcast

04:35:14.880 they're haters like i feel like the girls people have a perception it's because they're stupid girls

04:35:19.600 saying stupid no they're not kind of i mean wow you're the misogyn you're such a misogyn

04:35:25.760 i don't know sometimes but like you're you're a femson no i'm like you're celibate i'm a bit

04:35:31.200 red pill but i would say like the girls that don't know when world war one started and of

04:35:35.360 course they're gonna get the piss taken out of them come on we get taught that for like a like

04:35:39.120 every single i'm not gonna lie i got it wrong when i was on here i did wait what state did you

04:35:43.840 grow up going to elementary school in um california oh god that's you i mean they probably have

04:35:48.720 like a good system i don't know what's wrong california la usd is not no oh is it not wait

04:35:54.400 so but uh okay really quick your notes uh you say you're latina with gamer rage hell yeah and a fat

04:36:01.200 ass lols yeah and big boobies yeah well i lost weight so that's not so true anymore the fat ass or

04:36:08.800 the boobies yeah both you lost okay yeah um have you done any bg content no never just so not even

04:36:15.520 like private i've never okay yeah gotcha you said you've been to 30 countries correct and you've

04:36:21.120 dated in these countries yeah like guys have flown you out is that what you're saying no no no like

04:36:26.880 dubai no i've never the only place in middle east i've been in israel but i've the only place i've

04:36:31.760 been in middle east is israel so none of the arab countries actually but no i just since i do of

04:36:38.000 i have a lot of money and time so i just travel and while i'm there sometimes i'll meet someone

04:36:42.560 i'd say i've maybe like dated like 10 different nationalities yeah okay um i'm trying to see here

04:36:53.760 you're talking about how

04:36:58.480 how you met your boyfriend you gave him a paper with your name and number on it as his job

04:37:03.120 what does he do i don't want to say is he a waiter he is in something like similar to this field where

04:37:09.520 there's no college podcaster no no no not your field i'm sorry i mean like uh are you dating

04:37:14.800 steven crowder i don't know who this is wait are you latina what yeah you're latina i'm american though

04:37:20.960 but yes yeah yeah american first but um yeah okay well um i'm gonna come back to the questionnaire and

04:37:30.560 there's maybe a few more things in your notes but uh okay so going around the table um let's just do

04:37:37.280 a few show of hands just to be quick uh raise your hand if you agree uh should men pay on first dates

04:37:44.240 raise them high raise them high no i'm okay either way 50 50 or if he offers uh should test too much

04:37:52.240 uh men should provide and protect raise your hand if you agree okay men should be chivalrous

04:37:59.760 okay husband should be willing to die protecting me oh wait i changed this one up i had a different

04:38:08.720 so on the questionnaire it says take the bullet but i actually came up with a different scenario

04:38:14.480 shit wait uh okay here it is here it is um wait first let me just ask should your husband be willing

04:38:23.440 to take a bullet for you like die protecting you essentially okay yeah well because there's

04:38:31.920 there's an expectation like men should be protectors whatever i came up with a better one than the bullet

04:38:36.800 though because i think the bullet one there there's a third party perpetrator

04:38:45.200 i'm changing it to a better one here it is consider a scenario a ship is sinking

04:38:52.960 and only one functioning life preserver remains

04:38:58.560 you're married this life preserver can save only one person there's no work around there's no loopholes

04:39:06.000 there's no additional options you can't be like i'm going to tread water for 12 hours you can't hang

04:39:11.120 on to them you can't find some debris from the ship wreckage there's one life preserver and yet one

04:39:18.320 person essentially has to die

04:39:22.480 given that one person either the husband or the wife you in this instance must die who

04:39:28.480 should volunteer to sacrifice themselves

04:39:34.560 starting with you

04:39:37.280 uh the husband the husband okay myself you you would yes that's a tough one i think

04:39:48.160 him him okay yeah so the husband

04:39:52.880 right chivalry right yeah i'm gonna say the husband too husband would yes into the mic

04:39:59.840 husband what about you that's a tough yeah i mean he better you know be offering but i'd also you

04:40:06.880 know be willing to if you know it's my husband loving my life i'd be offering to we're gonna have to

04:40:11.840 rock paper scissors it i think that's fair okay um yeah like in that moment i feel like i couldn't

04:40:19.280 live with myself though like if i had to watch him die like i just that's why i chose that's a tough

04:40:24.480 one it's gonna it's gonna suck no matter what now here's a question here's like another one let's say

04:40:32.400 hey you're witnessing the um you you were on the ship and you have a life preserver but you see the

04:40:46.240 ship this the boat there's a couple on the boat and there's only one life preserver left who would you

04:40:55.680 judge more harshly so this doesn't impact your your life at all would you have a harsher judgment

04:41:03.600 towards one or the other if one of them opted to take the life preserver would you so if the woman

04:41:12.000 if they make a determination that the the woman gets the life preserver or the man gets the life

04:41:18.560 preserver would you more harshly judge the man for taking the life preserver over the woman yes then the

04:41:25.040 reverse yes yes damn that's crazy um i mean i get it i think i kind of would just because you know

04:41:34.080 like he's a bitch made uh well like you should die for your also a guy could swim longer too just

04:41:40.080 because of well in this scenario like let's say the water's really cold and he's like you know no

04:41:45.760 one's going to survive right i don't freaking know that's tough well i'm not no i'm not going to

04:41:51.200 judge judge either one like just on their gender in that situation okay i mean that it's just your

04:41:58.400 two lives right there shit's fucked up me personally even in the well i'm not gonna i'm not gonna get

04:42:07.040 into the bullet discussion but huh hypothetical i'm taking the life jacket i feel like women judge you

04:42:16.160 harshly like i'm just like yeah you know she can die women are gonna be like yo what the what if it

04:42:23.520 was your kid that's a tough one my kid damn my son or my daughter oh damn oh uh i don't know

04:42:36.480 chat what do you do oh like if you had to pick between your son or your daughter getting the life

04:42:42.000 look i'm an honest person to a fault damn this is really fucked up question i gotta be honest

04:42:48.320 fuck that's crazy i mean if you have your same wife you could just make another one

04:42:53.600 this is so such a hard fucking question how is it so hard well okay hold on so i would do almost

04:43:01.280 anything to protect my children like i will go through pain and suffering and i will sacrifice

04:43:08.480 dearly for for my children but presented oh my god this is so fucked up but it's like one of those

04:43:15.360 this sounds so fucked up say anything but give my life to say it i feel like some people would

04:43:22.560 virtue signal on this and be like of course i would like let my kid live i gotta be honest

04:43:29.440 i'm taking the fucking life jacket i'm fucking taking the life jacket bro you don't have a kid

04:43:33.920 though right do you have kids yeah no yeah i feel like it would change yeah i know that sounds so

04:43:39.360 fucking bad it does i don't know it's like it's like would you rather your mom or your dad die i

04:43:45.040 don't know it's like something it's so no it's different but it's like when you have kids your

04:43:48.880 answer will change i'm sure hopefully yeah i'm surviving i'm sorry i think i think logically okay if it's uh

04:43:56.880 if it was like you can you can't make another you but you and your wife can make another one of your

04:44:02.880 kids that that is my thinking i could have more kids you know i know it sounds so fucking bad but

04:44:09.120 i kind of like being alive and not drowning so i know it's not damn you couldn't live with yourself

04:44:15.520 yeah i promise you i would be yes i wouldn't i would be a piece of shit but um

04:44:25.360 wait but you would live but you're also going to hell i mean that's pretty much guaranteed

04:44:29.840 i know and i'm gonna believe in that and i'm gonna say this like if if that happened and i

04:44:34.880 took the life jacket and i watched my son drown i probably end up killing myself anyway yeah i'm

04:44:39.840 gonna be honest i would knock myself off i feel like it's because he doesn't i'm never gonna get laid

04:44:45.360 ever again um like she was found her kid was found with a life vest on the boat yeah yeah i heard

04:44:53.200 about that i haven't heard about that i'm not sure you drowned and saved your kid

04:44:59.440 that's the assumption that's like the one that's really powerful actually i just know i couldn't

04:45:06.080 especially because i said this last time my son had like a stroke and a brain aneurysm when he was

04:45:11.600 eight and um so that showed me that i know i wouldn't make it without him like since it was that

04:45:19.200 close i was like there's just no there's no way so yeah that's scary he's doing really good though

04:45:24.160 by the way he's doing great yeah uh okay where were we um we were gonna kill off your kid on a boat

04:45:31.600 yeah you're keeping the life jacket oh no man um yeah anyways uh we're we were talking about that oh

04:45:40.320 uh oh will you keep your like let's say you get married will you keep your last name or uh hyphenate

04:45:48.880 in marriage i think i'll keep my last name you'll keep your last name just because my mom did so i

04:45:54.400 was like oh wow yeah she she kept her last name so i kind of want to like she didn't hyphenate nope

04:45:59.920 what about for the kids do you have hyphenated i have my dad's you have your okay yeah all right

04:46:04.400 but she kept hers so i don't know so what what was the point of that i don't know that's just

04:46:10.560 anyways but but so you did say you raised your hand to all of my previous questions with men should

04:46:16.880 pay on first dates men should provide protect men should be chivalrous husband should be willing to

04:46:20.720 die protect i don't know if you're you want your husband to die for you you gotta take his last name

04:46:25.360 yeah at minimum you don't gotta bow what what what do men get the women

04:46:34.320 don't want to take the last name they don't want to be submissive they don't want to cook

04:46:37.120 they don't want to clean what are men getting for all the traditional things that men do

04:46:42.560 nothing yeah like why won't you take the last name like why wouldn't you want to take his last

04:46:47.440 name i like my last name so it's just like the sound of it i mean my my argument here is even if the

04:46:54.400 guy has a really bad last name and your last name is the dopest last name ever sorry you gotta wear

04:47:01.360 that that was my life i had the dopest without without question the best last name ever and i

04:47:09.120 struggled to to rid myself of that name because my new last name is so basic uh-huh it's incredibly

04:47:15.200 basic i was struggling with that but uh brian this brings up a good point and it's not leaving the

04:47:21.360 conversation but didn't you say i tried to cram all the episodes that i could this past week since i

04:47:27.120 don't really i'm not a regular viewer of this show but i but you said there's no reason for a man to

04:47:34.960 want to get married or there's no benefit to a man getting married or uh there there's a religious

04:47:41.840 benefit if you're religious but absent religion i don't really think they're well i mean the the

04:47:47.920 better framing is for the breadwinner there's no benefit really in totality so there's money which is

04:47:54.880 typically the man i get what you're saying but did did you want to well provide pushback or

04:48:04.000 well it's tied to what she was saying i i thought about it because i was like yeah i can see where

04:48:08.080 he's coming from but what about your your your your lineage oh i can have kids outside of marriage

04:48:16.400 sure you can but in the case of like her family if if it's my if it's me and and you and you have

04:48:27.360 not given me the benefit of marriage why would i give you the benefit of giving my child your last

04:48:32.880 name that's true well i think there's there is an argument to be made if you're not married to the

04:48:38.880 person then you don't have to take the last name however as it relates to the children uh whether

04:48:45.360 they're married or not there is a tradition that exists there that the woman that the children

04:48:49.760 regardless of the marriage status uh the children take the father's last name but you know in every

04:48:55.680 state legally hospitals prefer when parents are not married to take the the name of the wife of the

04:49:02.240 mother her last name it's usually just her suggesting that the the dad gets it that they give the child the

04:49:09.120 last name but well i easily we could just say well well i mean i i could just say she's i'm just saying

04:49:14.960 she's well within her rights to say oh well i'm gonna give the child my last name and then you don't

04:49:20.640 you might have progeny but you won't have any legacy well hold on um yes a woman could do that

04:49:29.360 but and she should i mean what do you mean she should she should do that if we're not married but

04:49:35.040 she's my husband well if you're not married then she's not no she shouldn't no well hold on she is

04:49:40.960 my woman whether we're married or not but yeah she's my marriage she she is and i'm her man but

04:49:48.400 yeah so however regardless of our marriage status um at least any woman i would choose to have children

04:49:56.480 with again regardless of if we're married or not my uh our kids have my last name yeah but you can't

04:50:04.640 she can like you you were saying she could flip on you and then she can divorce you and she can a

04:50:09.280 prenup doesn't mean anything she can easily have the baby be like i went through all this and this

04:50:13.120 man won't give me a ring he's not getting lineage i'm gonna keep this baby with my last name and she's

04:50:18.720 well within her rights to do so well i mean i don't know if we uh have a dispute over what lineage

04:50:24.400 means but i mean like legacy well yeah but blood lineage would exist regardless no that's progeny

04:50:30.320 no lineage would relate to blood regardless what their actual last name is well when you trace the

04:50:36.800 family tree you go by the father unless i'm misunderstanding lineage which i mean i'm gonna

04:50:41.920 just google it um like legacy like my lap your last name being carried into perpetuity lineage so

04:50:50.400 your son will not have your last name his child will now have have his grandfather's last name which

04:50:56.560 is his mother's last name so i think that that can be a component of lineage but i think lineage uh

04:51:04.400 i i think lineage would be beyond just the name that that relates to blood and ancestry yeah but you

04:51:12.400 don't see blood on family histories you see you you they track your history base unless my lineage

04:51:19.520 well wait hold on this doesn't even make sense so if my lineage then if i married a woman who had

04:51:24.720 children from another man or i get cucked but the kid has my last name is that my lineage if she

04:51:31.280 takes so that's an l no no so so if so if you adopt her children and the judge gives you that child's

04:51:39.040 last name right is that what you're saying by the way just to be clear that's not um when i was

04:51:43.680 saying it's an l it's an l to be cucked i don't think it's an l to be a stepfather i just wanted

04:51:48.400 but it's like if she gets pregnant by another another man and i think it's my kid and the kid

04:51:54.640 has my last name that's not my lineage but you're so you're so but it is now you have now robbed

04:52:02.080 that child's but not you robbed it the child's biological father has been robbed of his legacy by

04:52:09.280 the court and it's been bestowed upon the new father legally to now have every accomplishment

04:52:16.400 everything that goes with this child now will have brian's last name with this child going for

04:52:22.000 that that's why it's such a big deal to adopt somebody or to take somebody's last name because

04:52:26.640 you now have all the ownership and rights or whatever that go with this person into the future

04:52:32.720 onto their child onto their son's child onto their son's son's child um i i mean i don't know if we're

04:52:41.440 having just a kind of a dispute over the definition of lineage but where am i but i i understand what

04:52:48.720 you're saying but are you understanding what i'm saying if if a wife you're you assumed that whoever

04:52:53.920 you impregnate whether you marry her or not she is going to give her your child your biological child

04:53:02.640 your last name yeah but she is well within her legal rights and most states yeah especially when the

04:53:09.440 the parents the couple the parents are not married whoa wait hold on even if i'm married to her

04:53:16.000 she's well within her legal rights absolutely to dispute the name of the child and want the

04:53:22.000 last name so i don't see why marriage is related to this regardless of our marriage status even if

04:53:27.440 we're married the woman could be a bitch or whatever it is or she could just have a difference of opinion

04:53:33.360 like even if it okay we get married here's how we're going to do it with the children oh now that i've had

04:53:37.920 a kid now we're going to name we're going to hyphenate nah the kid i want the kid to have my

04:53:41.840 last name and ultimately i i don't know exactly the legal framework of what would happen if under a

04:53:47.840 marriage there was a dispute as to the last name of the child i don't know what would happen i'm

04:53:52.240 assuming the hospital would probably defer to them to the mother probably yeah probably so so marriage

04:53:58.400 wouldn't even protect me in that situation in this case the lineage is blood but i can have a

04:54:05.360 i can date a woman and we can agree hey we're not going to get married and she can defer to me

04:54:10.000 she can acquiesce to me and she can be like the kid's going to have your last name brian marriage

04:54:15.280 would not protect me in this circumstance but why would she have to defer to you for the child's

04:54:19.680 last name why would a woman have to acquiesce even in the marriage because typically a woman who gets

04:54:23.840 married and takes her husband's last name will give her child her husband's last name it's her last

04:54:27.920 name trust me a lot of women run run their shit even in marriage in fact so i think men get more

04:54:33.920 cucked i think men get more cucked in marriage because there's a bunch of women use marriage as

04:54:40.240 leverage like women will use marriage as leverage to get their will so i actually think it's a more

04:54:46.880 in terms if we're talking about who has more leverage in a relationship i actually think the

04:54:50.800 leverage remains it's not so much i have more leverage she has more leverage but in marriage women

04:54:56.560 or well the woman the person who's not the breadwinner has the leverage in the marriage

04:55:00.560 the person who's not the breadwinner has the leverage in the marriage and this is typically

04:55:06.160 the woman diabetic shock stay for how much longer uh i don't know how about can you can you pump out

04:55:13.840 another 30 40 minutes what do you think it's already been over that it should be it's like life over

04:55:20.640 here life death over here hey look i'm i'm not it's a long opposed to just having somebody die on the

04:55:26.160 whatever i'm kidding i'm kidding go ahead we'll have you back again when you have your meds or

04:55:30.640 whatever thank you and it's awesome to see a picture of charlie here keep that up for all

04:55:34.720 piss off the lip charts keep doing your thing you're so lovely i'm glad that we all about to talk

04:55:39.120 have a good night uh here can you take her seat we'll just move over a little bit um

04:55:45.200 uh so what was your point sorry oh my point was when a woman gets married and takes her husband's

04:55:55.120 name because your your point was even if you get married there's no uh yeah guarantee but if she

04:56:01.280 takes your name and when she gets married and y'all have a baby why would she not give her childhood

04:56:07.600 her last name which is now which is also your name i see so you're saying well in a scenario where

04:56:13.600 uh she she's gone ahead prior to having children gone ahead and taken your last name and you guys

04:56:19.440 are married well obviously duh the children are going to have her last name too her last name which

04:56:24.880 happens to be your last right yeah that makes total sense for me but i i don't see why marriage is

04:56:31.440 necessary for this well i'm just saying you you acknowledge that when somebody gets married there's

04:56:40.240 nothing that legally compels the woman to take the husband the the husband's last name even in

04:56:46.560 marriage oh right absolutely right so the same the same standard would apply whether we're married or

04:56:53.920 not if the woman is disinterested in having either her last name being my last name or having the children

04:57:02.000 take on my last name they're within whether married or not they're within their legal rights to prevent that

04:57:08.720 but once you get married you decide whose last name is whose whether she keeps her last name

04:57:14.880 whether she hyphenates once you get married y'all make a decision right so whatever you decide you

04:57:20.160 decide whose last name is who then you have the baby right now you decide okay is she going to have

04:57:25.920 my hyphenated last name or going to have his last name or my last name but it's going to make no sense

04:57:30.400 if if the baby doesn't have one of your names uh well i mean my my one of your new one of her

04:57:37.280 married name or your last name because you're saying the marriage is no guarantee yeah sure it's not but

04:57:42.960 once you get married you're going to figure it out before you have the baby look if if uh if this is

04:57:47.360 like a planned pregnancy where we're i'm dating a woman i'm together with a woman and we've made a

04:57:54.400 decision that we're going to have kids first off conversation about last name has probably already

04:57:58.880 happened although the type of woman that i would date uh i'm highly confident that she she that

04:58:07.680 there would not be any dispute over the the last name of our children like i freedom is scary you

04:58:16.160 never know she could have a baby and just i i went through all these hours of labor and he won't give

04:58:21.120 me a ring oh well this would all be determined yeah but this would all be determined well in advance

04:58:27.200 i well in advance i mean i i'm like you can have the conversation with your girlfriend hey um

04:58:37.920 we're i want the children to have my last name like here's how here's how the conversation would

04:58:43.680 probably go i don't even think i would need to have it but if i did i'd go like hey so look we're

04:58:48.800 thinking about having children i want the kids to have our last name and she's gonna be like oh yeah

04:58:53.200 sure that's the conversation like that's the conversation i anticipate i'm gonna have absent

04:58:59.360 marriage i mean that's a that's a big presupposition but i i think that you have to be prepared for a

04:59:06.560 woman to say well i will i want to give my child like i wasn't expecting her to say that her mother

04:59:12.000 that her name was hyphenated i mean i didn't i thought based on well how she was talking it wouldn't

04:59:17.360 be an assumption that i'm just like blindly going into like getting a woman pregnant first off if any

04:59:22.800 woman who i'm going to want to have kids with we're going to probably have significant alignment

04:59:27.840 on values so again i don't even think it's going to ever be a conversation with with whatever woman

04:59:33.520 i end up having children with she's going to probably align with my values my kind of relationship

04:59:37.840 dynamic and it's going to be a foregone conclusion that she's going to that the kids are going to have

04:59:43.120 my last name but even if it's not so easy to just assume that it'd be very easy for me to just simply

04:59:48.720 say hey so um we're thinking about having kids i want the kids to have my last name and i'm very

04:59:54.400 confident that here's i already did it but here's how that conversation is going to go she's going to

04:59:58.960 say yeah that sounds good end of conversation and then if that's not how that conversation goes

05:00:08.560 then again it's kind of like that's just the kind of woman i would pick maybe i'm mistaken

05:00:16.720 but otherwise i'm pretty confident that the conversation is going to go in that way i've

05:00:21.600 heard many a story of men in divorce court were talking about the name at the at the signing of

05:00:27.760 the name at the hospital or who signed whose name or whose last name somebody else has no this is not a

05:00:32.880 conversation you have when the woman just popped out a baby out of her vagina the conversation is had

05:00:38.400 before she's even pregnant so you're assuming that everything goes according to plan you're

05:00:43.360 assuming that remember you said i guess i mean sure women can lie well you're not married say you get

05:00:49.840 you get you find out you're pregnant and you haven't had the conversation yet

05:00:55.680 we're there's so you're throwing so many curveballs here that's not a curveball well no the

05:01:02.400 look ultimately i i don't know how how else to reiterate this essentially if i'm saying the

05:01:10.480 type of woman that i would that i would just de facto default to be dating

05:01:18.400 this would it wouldn't even so your argument is i don't happen i don't date hold on i don't date

05:01:25.120 shit lib feminist 50 50 women to begin with but if the conversation even came up if the conversation

05:01:33.200 came up it would come up well before we decide to have kids it's not i don't know why you're saying

05:01:39.840 well the the conversation can only come up after she popped out the baby well i don't know what type

05:01:45.040 of woman you're marrying that's not even a little bit covert feminist who's not going to demand that

05:01:50.400 might be true if she's not demanding that you marry her then you have to be worried that she might be a

05:01:54.080 little bit liberal somewhere hidden that no not not necessarily not necessarily i mean these are

05:02:01.920 all risks you're willing to take i'm just being i'm just being real well i mean stephen crowder

05:02:05.600 married virgin and they were christian and she was a covert feminist so this idea that christianity

05:02:11.600 religion marriage is going to protect you from a covert feminist is complete bullshit half of these

05:02:17.600 more than half of these even conservative women are feminists so this idea that okay go date a

05:02:23.200 based conservative girl they're all i don't know those terms most of them are feminists i don't care

05:02:28.480 i'm going to prioritize uh i'm going to prioritize a woman regardless of her desire or not to get

05:02:34.800 married i'm going to prioritize uh her lacking of feminism over her conservative or christian values

05:02:42.480 oh are you are you a christian uh i'm so okay i have pro-christian sentiment but i'm agnostic

05:02:50.320 pro-christian sentiment so are you like you're a pragmatist like a moral pragmatist are you like

05:02:55.760 donald trump well i i don't know donald trump's position on this but i can tell you my position

05:03:01.280 i'm not an atheist i'm an agnostic i don't know um my i but i think christianity on the individual

05:03:09.440 level and the societal level is immensely beneficial however in fact a doctrine of christianity is

05:03:17.120 truth-telling being honest not telling lies and so i wouldn't sit here and lie because

05:03:22.640 truth be told i don't have the the actual faith in that belief maybe one day i'll get there but in

05:03:28.960 terms of like my assessment and views of christianity i think it's again very positive on the societal

05:03:35.520 level and on the individual level it's a good thing i have pro-christian sentiment i'm not an

05:03:41.120 anti-theist i'm not an atheist but i am agnostic my belief isn't there so do you and i'm just making

05:03:48.240 sure i get a further understanding so it's like do you but you don't believe in like a heaven or hell

05:03:52.720 are you are you there are you in those i don't know i i don't know to be honest okay that's that's

05:04:00.480 being agnostic i faith somebody in the chat says faith is a gift i have yet to receive um so

05:04:11.120 and look i mean i think if there was a christian order in this country i think that that would

05:04:16.800 that would probably be a good thing you would like that either like even from governance or even just

05:04:22.960 like robust uh a robust uh i don't know what the right word is christendom like a robust

05:04:33.040 uptick in christianity in this country that would be a good thing so you would want christian

05:04:37.040 nationalism you would you would call for christian nationalism i don't know what that would really

05:04:40.640 entail i don't i don't know what that is but um like if society had uh adhered to uh christian

05:04:49.280 ethics and christian morals that would probably be better than what we have currently i completely

05:04:54.000 agree with that yeah but like if you're asking me in terms of my faith like i it's just maybe

05:05:00.000 it'll come to me but i don't want to lie it's not i'm a truth teller it's not there well i i

05:05:04.720 it'd be super beneficial for me to like grift and say i'm a christian but i'm not gonna lie i'm the

05:05:10.480 same way and i work at a very christian based company but i'm i'm agnostic and i echo exactly like

05:05:17.120 to the t what you've said i think christianity is a force for good totally in the u.s in the world

05:05:23.520 but i just there's like there's a roadblock there that that maybe it'll come to me maybe it won't

05:05:29.520 say i've said that exact thing and i i asked that the the first half of that i asked that because you

05:05:35.360 said about uh there are christians who are covert in their marriages and they do this and you mentioned

05:05:39.920 your friend and something about his wife and then you said there yes steven well and and you're

05:05:44.320 right about that statistic there is just as much divorce in the church as there is out of the

05:05:48.560 church the the difference is i've heard it's a bit less in it's it's just about equal but this is

05:05:56.480 the thing it's still high though it's still high and you're all that to say is it should be more

05:06:00.720 disproportionate based on the values of christianity but so i was saying to your point yes i i do agree

05:06:06.480 with that the difference is what is the moral driver for for half of those marriages or the the

05:06:12.560 proportion of those marriages that we're talking about you're saying well well what my i'm not

05:06:16.880 going to choose a wife like x y and z and i'm saying there are people who are in those marriages

05:06:21.600 they have a moral driver for why they do what they do well why am i getting married why am i

05:06:26.000 taking my husband's last name why am i having him lead why am i doing all these different things

05:06:29.760 so that's that's why i said that that last part i wasn't trying to oh no i'm not i'm not upset or

05:06:34.960 or anything like that like they get to yeah no i but i mean just on the marriage thing um i

05:06:44.560 it's just i don't know there's definitely like the way it's structured legally currently in terms of

05:06:53.280 divorce uh now just to be clear like monogamy good having a singular partner good having children good

05:07:03.120 and but i think you can have all those things absent marriage but marriage is a sacrament

05:07:09.040 it's i i understand what you're saying but marriage call it something else marriage is in

05:07:14.960 and of itself a sacrament so when we're talking about marriage we're using god's material and

05:07:20.160 saying i'm just going to do do whatever i want to do well just do what you're going to do but remember

05:07:26.320 if and again so i asked you about the do you believe in heaven or hell because i didn't know

05:07:29.280 exactly where you what where you were we're all whether you believe in god or not we're all going

05:07:34.640 to be held to the same judgment so it's not like well i'm not going to choose that again not to be

05:07:40.000 like dismissive but that's not really a compelling argument towards an agnostic person i i guess i mean

05:07:49.360 as far as i know when you die that's your consciousness is there's no heaven or hell it's just

05:07:55.120 it's just the how whatever it was before you were born you return to that nothing which is kind of

05:08:02.800 scary not gonna lie yeah but you but so you believe it was nothing before we were born you don't believe

05:08:06.480 like we were knit in our mother's womb you don't believe god put our souls in uh in our bodies you

05:08:12.640 don't believe i already told you i'm agnostic so i i don't know um why do you think christian values

05:08:17.760 are good though what why did you choose those over anything else then uh well i mean i think people can

05:08:24.800 i that that's the foundation of western civilization um and like i think there's a lot of truth in

05:08:32.480 like i i've read some uh i've read biblical scripture and uh there's a lot of truth and value in in in

05:08:43.600 that but um yeah i don't know what you want me to tell you you're talking to somebody who's agnostic

05:08:50.880 you're answering my questions you're saying i don't recall consciousness pride in fact i mean

05:08:56.960 even when you're young a lot of people don't remember anything from their like one two or

05:09:00.640 three or whatever um i would from an agnostic perspective again i don't know what actually

05:09:05.840 happens but if if i had to guess assuming that god doesn't exist and there's no heaven there's no

05:09:13.120 hell there's no afterlife i would assume that you return to the nothingness from which you uh

05:09:19.280 uh it's just nothing so we're here we we just are randomly here look i'm again i don't have an

05:09:26.160 issue with i'm a fan of christianity no no i'm not going against you i'm right i'm asking i think i

05:09:31.520 even told you i'm a curious person i'm sure i don't know you i'm just asking these questions so i can

05:09:35.920 better pasty i'll get to you in just a sec pasty w by the way pasty said last show oh my god this guy

05:09:40.720 hold on uh i'll come to you in just a sec pasty i just want to finish off this convo but like i think

05:09:45.840 that whatever the experience was prior to birth logically that would make it would make sense to

05:09:52.720 me that the non-existence the non-consciousness that i don't know what thing what it was before i was

05:10:02.000 born it would be in the same way as a when you fall asleep and you don't recall your dreams whatever

05:10:09.040 that eight hours happens in that eight hours that's it's a dark it's darkness it's death

05:10:17.760 it's nothing i don't know i just i could be wrong though i don't know definitively

05:10:25.840 but from an agnostic perspective it would make sense that's a possibility

05:10:30.080 and that's a terrifying thought for me it's absolutely terrifying because i enjoy having

05:10:36.400 consciousness and when i go to sleep i hope that i'll wake up and the idea that one day you could

05:10:42.080 i mean there's other there's various ways you could die but one day you go to sleep

05:10:46.800 and then your consciousness is gone that to me is terrifying i guess i just think nothing like

05:10:52.720 nothing can't come from nothing like it would make everything very coincidental and i just don't

05:10:58.160 like if everything is like so particular to like like the molecule like if anything was slightly

05:11:06.480 off balance we literally wouldn't exist so people are saying i'm an atheist i don't know that's why

05:11:14.880 i was asking you lots of questions because some things you did say sounded atheist and some sounded

05:11:18.400 like a moral pragmatist so you're figuring it out like you said you're just you're figuring it out as

05:11:23.440 you're you know nobody's all these labels are what they are that's why i'm asking you questions to

05:11:28.640 see you how i don't know the chat is not happy right now the chat look guys i don't know i don't know

05:11:37.520 isn't it true that it so if you believe in the big bang do you like there's nothing and then somehow

05:11:46.400 look i don't know i don't want to go too deep in theology but like look

05:11:49.520 quick question are you orthodox christian or what's your i'm a christian what i'm i'm not a

05:11:56.880 pro you y'all would say i'm a protestant but we did i'm not what's the church i'm a christian like

05:12:02.480 literally what church what's are you a presbyterian no i'm not i'm not from a product of the reformation

05:12:08.480 i am a christian like a biblical so for instance when i go to worship i go to a our church is called if

05:12:14.400 on the sign the church that meets at east shelby the east shelby church of christ or

05:12:19.920 turning point church of christ that not really i didn't mean to say turning point i think i just

05:12:24.560 turned and saw charlie and then i said turning point but whatever if the street was called whatever

05:12:29.440 that's where we the people who are members of the lord's body we meet here we are the church i don't

05:12:35.840 go to church i am the church so wherever i go with my brethren i'm a church i am the church i'm a

05:12:41.120 christian we were called christians in antioch in the book of acts so i'm a christian i'm not and and

05:12:46.000 again you would say i'm a product of the of the reformation so you'd call me protestant but i

05:12:50.560 don't call myself a protestant we don't call ourselves protestants we believe in the trinity

05:12:55.280 the god the father son holy spirit of course okay i don't know i'm just asking some

05:12:59.520 fucking question um yeah also technically are you i forget the terms for this but um do you believe

05:13:07.200 in like evolution do i believe in evolution or creation which one i believe in creation well

05:13:14.560 no but creation can coexist with evolution do we evolve as people is what or is that what you're

05:13:21.760 asking well i think there's like some there i don't know we're getting no i believe that

05:13:26.080 god created the world in six days and rested on the seventh same that's that's that's what

05:13:32.880 a christian believes who reads the bible but i mean i don't believe in the big bang you don't

05:13:39.040 believe in the big no i don't believe but but you there are christians that can that that can

05:13:44.240 reconcile create uh creation and evolution well people can reconcile a lot of things and tickle

05:13:49.680 them their ears to justify things but what does the bible say if we look if we do a literal

05:13:55.040 interpretation of genesis genesis let's i love that well so what what was it um i'm trying to

05:14:03.360 think in the beginning was the word and the word was with god the word was god the same was in the

05:14:07.600 beginning with god all the order the order of how god created uh the the order of certain things and

05:14:15.280 i'm forgetting the exact details but like certain things came before uh

05:14:22.320 like that's just not how hold on i gotta i gotta google this because this is not my will

05:14:27.920 like i'm trying to remember exactly but um like plants became in genesis plants came before something

05:14:35.920 and that's like that kind of conflicts with the science so wait which one oh because you're saying

05:14:46.080 that because there was light or there was no sun and then there was i forgot i don't know if the maybe

05:14:52.480 the vegetation came before the light i don't remember i for i don't know it's i don't even you mean

05:14:57.360 the light or the sun i forgot in the beginning there was a light the sun didn't come until

05:15:01.680 later after plants day one you know the song i don't know day one god made light god made clouds

05:15:11.040 and skies okay i'm gonna i'm gonna move off of this but i'm gonna let sorry for the delay pasty george

05:15:17.200 but uh message from the government of canada you're right day three and day four george donated two

05:15:22.160 hundred dollars and four cents chair six proves the point on why men should avoid western women

05:15:28.400 or any woman influenced by feminism in any way and look for a traditional woman in another country

05:15:34.400 that has strong cultural values what do i do what i need to do what i think they might mean

05:15:40.320 i think it's you you're chair six how do i feminine what your chair six pasty george said

05:15:44.960 w's in the chat for pasty george my good canadian friend welcome back don't don't he's not talking

05:15:50.000 about me george donated two hundred dollars i don't care about pasty george i'm trying to stay

05:15:55.520 away so i can recover and work on my book but sometimes i can't help myself i was curious to

05:16:01.520 see what kind of notarded panelists were on tonight hello l it's good to see you man i was kind of sad

05:16:07.920 like i was like oh man pasty george is gone but like hey he tuned in he tuned in he couldn't help

05:16:13.600 himself thank you pasty george appreciate it man uh it's been it's been an interesting congo man

05:16:18.240 good to see you dude um oh wait fuck i was gonna ask pasty something shit

05:16:27.440 i forgot what i was gonna ask him i don't know whatever um oh oh nick can you google

05:16:33.040 here wait wait google ibook g3 and then also a different tab imac g3 google the chat chat i'm

05:16:44.800 gonna ask the chat a favor stay tuned i need to ask you guys a favor uh what is what what currency

05:16:51.280 that is this r what is our robles robes wait what is our dollar sign chat what is our dollar sign

05:17:00.880 what is that what's that yeah what is that chat what what currency is that chat

05:17:09.680 i'm about to be a goblin that's not true chat what the fuck do you have it yeah yo does anybody

05:17:21.200 watching now there's hold on how many people do we have watching we have like 4 000 on twitch we got

05:17:27.360 four we got like probably 8 000 people total watching does anybody have one of these

05:17:33.840 it's it's the clamshell like nine can if somebody has one i need one for the show

05:17:44.320 and i want a good quality i want like you see some of them how they're all cracked and

05:17:47.680 shit i need like one that's in decent condition the blue the orange or the green

05:17:56.880 you don't have to i'm not saying you buy it if anybody has one maybe you could gift it maybe a

05:18:01.120 little gift to the whatever i need one for the show i know it sounds stupid and then the imac g3

05:18:07.920 okay scroll down to the scroll down the one with the the yeah they were if anybody has

05:18:16.000 and i'm uh it doesn't need to even work neither of them have to work i just need one

05:18:22.000 if anybody has an imac g3 and you're willing to send it to me i'm not gonna i'm not gonna sell it

05:18:28.720 it's a prop for the show please dm me on instagram if you have a the the ibook g3 or the imac g3

05:18:37.760 i'll explain it when i get one i guess okay um what what did what was the currency did anybody

05:18:45.760 figure it out brazilian oh this guy's a scammer hold on oh whoops 200 brazilian

05:18:54.160 dollars how much is that like 50 cents all right yeah it's below the threshold it's got it's usd it's

05:19:02.320 usd but um fuck you uh call damn bro this brazilian guys get fucking killing me here

05:19:12.000 you watch this fucking brazilian you know what hey bro

05:19:19.840 copy and gianni guillermo fucking guillermo

05:19:27.440 what is that actually you in the photo what what the fuck dude is that you

05:19:36.080 okay all right all right i see how it is all right thank you uh hey do the band do the band

05:19:47.760 there you go you get a little brazilian wait portuguese my bad you're a little portuguese

05:19:51.360 there all right uh here let's blast through the notes we gotta blast through the notes here

05:19:55.120 but uh oh passion not matter do you think your passion matter like uh related to body count

05:20:00.000 like if body count matters uh yes i feel like like like if a guy was like you told the guy your

05:20:10.960 body count and he was like ah don't want to date you because of that i mean like like kind of but

05:20:19.280 like not really i don't know i feel like it shouldn't determine your like value as a person okay um hold

05:20:28.080 on hold on what about you going around the table i don't give a rip don't care at all

05:20:35.760 i do think that past matters i think it matters to an extent yes

05:20:47.680 all right i i i think it matters

05:20:50.560 it doesn't matter to me but i understand if it's a problem for guys yeah

05:20:59.520 mm-hmm okay cool um so going around the table what's your body count mine yeah do i have to say you

05:21:07.120 have to i don't have to say you can give like you have to do you want to do a range huh you can do

05:21:15.680 like a ballpark you don't have to do like an exact number okay or you can just say whatever you want

05:21:22.560 one to five i'm not gonna answer that ballpark range no not even close okay i'll give you a range

05:21:29.920 in the last 20 years it's under 10. in the last like 30 years it's like 25 give or take so yeah my husband

05:21:39.680 i don't know i never kept track like that but if i had to ballpark it i'm gonna go low 20s

05:21:49.360 low 20s did you did you like lose track or no i never kept a list or anything like that

05:21:56.160 yeah multiply it by three and that's the real number for everybody for everybody i'm not talking

05:22:00.960 anybody there uh all right we're gonna blast through the uh questionnaire here or not the

05:22:06.080 questionnaire the pre-show notes okay uh let's see here

05:22:13.280 hold on one sec um okay so uh i guess we'll go to haley um

05:22:21.120 let's see we talked about that talked about that uh you have a ludicrous amounts of ridiculous dating

05:22:27.600 stories yeah i really do i wrote them in my notes app and there's some i decided i'm not going to share

05:22:36.480 but oh i do have a good one on another terrible tinder date um let's see this might have been

05:22:45.440 seven years ago ish and i get a guy back to my place and um so he starts acting really weird you

05:22:54.640 know we're hanging out having a good time we hadn't done it or anything but we're talking and we're

05:22:59.200 sitting and watching uh something on the tv and suddenly he starts getting really quiet and um

05:23:06.320 looking over you know i was kind of watching whatever was there i'm looking over and suddenly

05:23:11.520 he's like laying down in this really weird position uh kind of eyes half open and i'm poking him and

05:23:19.040 prodding him and he's not responding so i'm getting kind of worried like okay so i don't know this guy's

05:23:23.920 overdosing or something does he do drugs well so um i went into the bathroom or actually wait no first

05:23:32.160 i actually i decided you know he probably like maybe he needs medical assistance so the first thing i did

05:23:37.440 was i did call an ambulance and while they're while i'm waiting on that i go into the bathroom and i

05:23:42.640 see this little vial thing with like drops like an eyedropper type thing and it turned out uh

05:23:49.840 he they were like the date rape drug the you know gh g yeah he dude roofied himself

05:23:56.800 what and he didn't even share oh no no no no it was so weird it turned out you know actually became

05:24:03.760 friends with him after that um just because he was such an interesting dude uh didn't date him or

05:24:10.960 anything but yeah and it turns out he he was kind of addicted i didn't know you could get addicted to

05:24:16.800 that but yeah he was he did that on a daily basis he would freaking roofie himself and then he also had

05:24:24.080 all this other medication i don't know what it was not prescription stuff but yep that's different

05:24:36.000 good times yeah it's very interesting yeah nothing bad happened so it's just good times

05:24:41.840 um let's see here um you say modern dating is doomed you've used dating apps never resulted in a

05:24:48.800 relationship you weren't catfishing people you don't edit your pictures um you say these romantic

05:24:56.400 connections via internet end up being low effort on the dude's part no surprise there that's why i

05:25:01.680 stopped doing that just no more internet i left internet dating behind in my 20s it just ended up

05:25:07.200 being a waste of the freaking decade my prime years right there um

05:25:12.080 uh siara yes uh you dated a pilot who had what uh he had a wife and kids i had no idea whole whole

05:25:23.680 wife and kids at home okay damn you had no clue about it i had no idea no you dated a guy who had a

05:25:29.520 girlfriend you didn't know about it yes that one was quick but yeah i had no idea uh you dated a

05:25:36.880 uh man who you for over a year who uh who you ended up finding out was what he was having sex with

05:25:50.480 transsexual men so when wait trans trans men trans men it was a it was a biological male who oh so

05:26:02.080 trans women trans women yes sorry that's okay don't be yeah yeah i had no idea it's very confusing

05:26:08.720 okay yeah it confuses the hell out of me it was uh someone who who was a man who became a woman yes

05:26:14.800 okay yes okay yeah but like still so he was gay yes yeah i in my opinion i think he was gay if you ask

05:26:23.840 him he would tell you differently because she looks like a female but i mean you can't so you

05:26:32.480 even granting if you can change your gender you can't change your sex two males having sex

05:26:38.080 meets the definition of homosexuality yes that gay is slang for homosexual yeah so yep not not a

05:26:47.840 criticism look if you're gay or homosexual whatever whatever whatever live your life but let's not

05:26:53.920 paint right a picture something as straight if it's not yeah yeah yeah i went on a like i don't even

05:27:01.040 consider it a date but we like we're smoking this is a long time ago but we were like smoking and he

05:27:05.840 was just telling you like past stories and he said that essentially so dating trans women he's like i

05:27:12.960 would treat their penis as if it like he's like i still consider it a woman so i still like it wasn't

05:27:20.800 there yeah and i'm like how do you like he's still like he did stuff to the penis but still viewed that

05:27:28.720 or the as a man i was a woman you know what i'm trying to say like yes so and when when he said that in

05:27:35.520 my head i was like oh yeah what about trans women who've had bottom surgery it's still a man yeah no

05:27:42.000 no i completely agree my my dad is actually trans but i is he really yeah how's that i heard you say

05:27:48.880 that what so he's he's a woman he's trans is your dad he's transitioned he's transitioned not bruce

05:27:57.440 really are you the one from no i'm from los angeles yes dang how was that like how was that i i hate

05:28:05.280 when uh people act like they know what it's like because they have no idea it teared my family apart

05:28:13.040 um it destroyed my little sister who was still in high school at the time um he's still an

05:28:20.240 unimaginable asshole as he always was before and even more so now in my opinion pretends like he

05:28:27.440 knows what it's like to be a woman and he does not at all never had a period never went through puberty

05:28:35.280 never has to have children like you don't get it so don't try to understand and to be honest you

05:28:42.480 know first wave feminism is fine but all these you know feminists today um who are standing up

05:28:49.600 for trans women it's uh your argument's kind of collapsing on itself because you cannot be pro-trans

05:28:56.000 women and be a feminist at the same time just wow yeah so it's yeah it's it's almost family tore my

05:29:02.560 family apart it's like kind of insulting it's absolutely like like you don't you don't understand

05:29:08.000 what it's like to like accidentally bleed on yourself in public totally you know what i'm saying

05:29:12.880 and yeah how old were you when he started this was 2016 so so recently almost recently yeah recently

05:29:22.640 did he show if when you look back and like no he was a misogynistic asshole um a gun wielding

05:29:30.720 woman hating uh cheated on all of his wives you know you know never took a woman seriously never

05:29:37.760 took me seriously um and now you know all of this has happened and what is it called is it called

05:29:46.320 auto-gynophilia where it's not really trans but they're really just attracted to the the thought of

05:29:52.320 themselves as women yeah maybe is that what that's the terminology is that right auto-gynophilia

05:29:58.400 something like that guys what we're gonna do uh we have some pizza that just came here so we're gonna

05:30:02.960 have a little everybody want pizza okay pizza oh you don't want pizza yeah yeah pizza more for me

05:30:14.400 yeah just give me quick yeses please yes i'm good for now can pass it around yeah yeah okay so here here

05:30:20.320 here i don't want any yep thank you though i'm good for now uh guys tts we're gonna lower the tts to

05:30:29.920 69 69 69 60 excuse me 69 dollar tts guys get them in get them in i thought it was fries 69

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05:30:53.760 all right uh i'm gonna finish off continue with the notes you had some disagreements with them

05:30:57.520 with me though what were those uh the first one was on the marriage yep we talked about that

05:31:02.960 unless you had like specific yeah well mine's different it's not from like a moral standpoint it's

05:31:08.000 from a standpoint of logically and having been in that experience where i actually felt the same way

05:31:15.440 where i didn't believe that i needed the government to tell me that my relationship was important or

05:31:21.120 valid or whatever and then i lost my partner and we weren't married and the hoops that i had to jump

05:31:27.760 through because of that really made me look at well if you're gonna if you're gonna be in a long-term

05:31:33.680 relationship with somebody over the course of your whole life and you're gonna have children

05:31:38.960 if you're not married especially if she's staying home with the kids and she's not acquiring social

05:31:44.960 security and she's not acquiring retirement and pension and all those other things if something

05:31:50.080 happens to you she's screwed she's she's nobody in the eyes of the government and takes everything from

05:31:57.040 you um yeah it was it was a mess and i had to really look into it because i was put into that

05:32:02.560 situation and then the other side of it is like on that social security aspect of it you're paying

05:32:07.760 into the social security for a whole life and then you've chosen this partner who you're going to spend

05:32:13.200 your entire life with right in your eyes but not married yeah you're paying this huge sum of money

05:32:20.000 and then if you die she has no rights to it and she can't take care of herself because she had no

05:32:24.960 acquired social security yeah i kind of well i mean look really quick on this um there's i understand

05:32:32.880 that marriage can confer those those sorts of benefits uh to the beneficiary but even if you're

05:32:39.200 not married you can have a beneficiary you can have a final will and testament or whatever uh that can

05:32:45.120 outline you know how the breakdown is going to be there um so marriage i guess if you're married it does

05:32:53.600 confer some uh easiness there but i don't think that's a really compelling uh i what i'm hearing

05:33:01.680 when you say all that stuff and look some of that stuff's valid i hear me me me me men die earlier

05:33:09.040 than women you're talking about and whoever the breadwinner is typically that's the man again i'm when i'm

05:33:19.520 making a an argument about marriage i'm looking at it from the perspective of what is the benefit

05:33:26.720 to the breadwinner what is the benefit to the man you you you exactly i was just gonna say the same

05:33:32.080 thing well yeah you want to mitigate all your risk and you want to give it to her um it's it's a bit

05:33:39.600 different so in this case women do confer benefits from marriage or the person who's not the breadwinner

05:33:52.240 confers benefits from marriage what are the benefits to men

05:33:59.760 to be married what do you mean yeah what what are the benefits of men

05:34:03.840 the whatever the benefits to men like legally or morally like when you're okay if if i'm an

05:34:09.840 anti-marriage and you're saying well here's what i okay i'm anti doing a business deal with somebody

05:34:18.160 and the the person tells me well hold on if you do this business deal with me i benefit would that be

05:34:26.160 convincing to the other person ever no and i if you have if you don't have any kids in the situation

05:34:33.360 i can have kids out of marriage but go ahead yeah you can but if i'm just kidding but but

05:34:39.200 even if you so if you have those kids in that marriage and you're wanting her to stay home with

05:34:43.200 them right she's forfeiting her career she's raising the kids for 10 20 years of time whatever

05:34:48.560 it is again she's not acquiring all of that stuff and so if something happens to you the social

05:34:55.440 security benefits she has no say and not only that if you're unmarried those social security

05:35:00.000 benefits go to nobody i'm not familiar with how social security works so when you're married

05:35:04.880 your wife gets your social security benefits i don't know how it works so like say you're in a

05:35:09.920 relationship with this person for 20 years she raises the kid you go off to work during that time

05:35:14.960 you're paying into social security every single paycheck right it's like 12 of your entire income

05:35:21.120 and it's it's like 500 000 to 700 000 if you're a high earner over a long period of time that's to take

05:35:27.760 care of you guys during retirement okay that's under your name if you pass away she has no rights

05:35:35.200 to that so she just spent 40 years with you and she can now not take care of herself because she

05:35:39.680 hasn't worked at all i mean look i don't know if on one hand i can be charitable and say that the

05:35:47.120 current economic order is going to be the case in 40 years i think there's a couple things here i don't

05:35:54.400 think honestly whether you're married or not i think social security is going to be completely

05:35:59.840 gobbled up by the boomers and maybe by a bit of gen z i don't think there's going to be anything left

05:36:07.360 for millennials or sorry did i say gen z i might i'm sorry i might have meant gen x i might have misspoken

05:36:14.080 it's going to get gobbled up by boomers it's going to get gobbled up maybe by some of gen x as a

05:36:19.280 millennial social security gone gen z gen alpha no social security uh it's not going to be there

05:36:30.560 secondly i do think that with the advent of ai i don't know how things are going to go economically

05:36:37.040 i think there's going to be in the next 10 20 30 years and i feel maybe this is like bad faith that

05:36:42.720 i'm bringing it here there's going to be so much social upheaval there's going to be social chaos there's

05:36:49.040 going to be disorder um i don't know if we have an economic solution to the mass amounts of people

05:36:58.400 who are not going to be employed i don't know what society is going to look like in 20 30 40 years

05:37:04.320 due to artificial intelligence because the reality is there are people who just don't have the iq to do

05:37:11.280 the jobs that will be available if we're going to be talking about a universal basic income or a tax on

05:37:17.280 artificial intelligence i don't know what how things are going to look economically truthfully

05:37:23.760 in 20 30 40 years um i don't know i'm a little scared i'm not gonna lie um but pretend nothing

05:37:33.360 changes how do you answer her question a lot of like i know i know this is assuming assuming that

05:37:39.760 there isn't a complete overhaul of our economic system due to uh you know artificial intelligence and

05:37:46.400 like getting either close to or into a post-scarcity uh uh society and world uh

05:37:58.560 i mean still my point about assuming things stay the same i don't think that there's going to be

05:38:02.960 social security for millennials or uh or gen z or any other future generations but um

05:38:10.240 uh that i'm not an expert in economics i i don't know but uh okay to address your thing assuming it's the case

05:38:18.720 um taking your word for it that okay if you're married then five hundred thousand dollars that otherwise wouldn't go to your

05:38:29.760 uh wife would just get eaten up by the state i guess is that how it is i don't know i don't know

05:38:36.400 so yeah if you're unmarried yes i'll take your word for it yeah that that that's interesting

05:38:41.200 and maybe you know assuming i make it to old age um if i'm on my deathbed

05:38:48.160 and i've been with my girl for however 40 50 years or whatever

05:38:53.200 uh or you know i don't know if we we've been together for a long ass time and i'm

05:38:58.880 you know i got a couple years left it i'll marry her so she could get the benefits

05:39:02.320 but until it's reached a point like if i'm in my 30s

05:39:10.560 the i have to weigh the risks in this case the risk of divorce is going to giga-fuck me financially

05:39:18.240 so but again i'm still looking for what do i get

05:39:22.800 well why not a prenup though like you can essentially dictate exactly what happens in

05:39:27.920 your marriage in the event a little bit i mean there's some things that you can't get around

05:39:32.480 in a prenup well like for example even if i have a contract that somebody's my slave

05:39:38.080 well yeah like a court would find that unenforceable so there's certain things in

05:39:41.680 a prenup that would be unenforceable um i have a solution what why don't you just marry somebody

05:39:48.080 who would never divorce you why don't i just date somebody who would um what

05:39:57.360 oh yeah yeah no it's all good um

05:40:01.840 i mean do you think wait wait do you think most people go into a marriage thinking like oh yeah

05:40:07.680 most people think this is the love of my life we're going to be together forever

05:40:11.040 50 divorce rate 50 divorce rate i'm just testing your logic because your argument to me was

05:40:20.000 i would never marry somebody who wouldn't give my child uh my last name whether we're together or not

05:40:25.920 so here we are just pick somebody who'll never divorce you and that solves the problem well i think

05:40:31.360 there's a difference here i think people can have a change of uh people can change that was my argument

05:40:39.600 no i think it's different though i think uh i think if i talk to a girl and hold on these are this is

05:40:50.640 a false equivalence so if i talk to a woman and she tells me oh yeah if if we have kids i want you

05:40:59.920 uh or i want the kids to have our last name that's different like okay for example if i tell somebody

05:41:07.280 that i'm going to love them forever am i now beholden to love them forever no like people

05:41:13.520 say this all the time in relationships i would never leave you i i'm gonna love you forever

05:41:20.960 one year later two years however long people fall out of love circumstances change so i don't think

05:41:27.840 it's a fair comparison to say okay well the woman could change her mind about the

05:41:31.920 the last name of the kids how is that different it's completely different all agents of free will

05:41:37.440 in both scenarios you're an agent of free will and both of them are presupposed that you're going to

05:41:41.920 do what the other person says that they're going to do so i'm presupposing that when i get married

05:41:45.920 to somebody and i say i'm going to love honor obey you till as long as i live and i don't do that

05:41:52.080 well i've what broken my vows to you if i tell you i'm going to give you your my our child's last name

05:41:58.560 and i decide you know what since you didn't marry me i'm not going to do that there i'm in both

05:42:03.920 scenarios you're an agent of free will and you're able to change your mind at the blink of an at the

05:42:08.160 blink of an eye so they literally are the exact same scenario i i don't think it's the same scenario

05:42:14.160 well how because there's material differences so so okay uh in the in the event of of i i mean i

05:42:24.560 i i can't believe i have to even explain this so is it technically possible if a woman tells you

05:42:31.280 i want the kids to have your last name that either right before that the the kids are born

05:42:37.440 or after the kids are born she could have a change of mind yes absolutely this is logically possible

05:42:43.920 however i think i think there's a differential here i don't know if we can do a straight comparison

05:42:48.880 between that and then like the very intricate dynamics of uh of relationships and the changes

05:42:57.920 that can occur in relationships can i help you in one of the scenarios where you're taking vows and

05:43:03.840 you're promising to honor somebody and to love them when you don't do that then you are breaking your

05:43:09.200 promise when you are not married to somebody and you have a child with them you are not beholden to

05:43:13.760 be giving the father the last name of your child there's no legal obligation to do so so in marriage

05:43:20.080 there isn't a legal obligation in marriage either yeah don't to love honor and obey there's no and

05:43:25.280 you don't have you when you break but you break a vow you break a vow if you break a vow yeah everybody

05:43:31.120 breaks vows all the time yeah but no you can't nobody says you can't break a vow but you're not

05:43:35.120 breaking a vow to give somebody your child's last name you don't have to when you break a vow and you

05:43:40.720 get a divorce there are legal obligations that you have you're able to do it legally you're able to

05:43:44.960 split things you're able to get attorneys you're able to divide things nobody's going to send you

05:43:49.040 to court for not giving your child your last name she doesn't have to do it but actually like there's

05:43:54.080 a degree of overthinking here if i'm and again this conversation can well predate

05:44:01.680 well predate when she gets pregnant when she inevitably gives birth to the child the conversation

05:44:06.640 i can have a conversation with a girl before we even have sex for the first time not that it would

05:44:11.840 be i don't think that would be a particularly sure uh i don't think it'd have much of an aphrodisiac

05:44:17.760 effect but i could i could be like hey let's i want to see before we do anything before we date if we

05:44:24.400 share values here and i would just say uh hey just curious if uh you know we ever end up having kids

05:44:30.640 where do you lean in terms of who takes the uh the the as far as the kid goes do they have my last

05:44:37.600 name where do you where do you land on that right i don't disagree with you right so i can have that

05:44:43.040 conversation and i guess technically it's possible she could change her mind but i i really don't think

05:44:48.480 it it would be so yes she could change her mind but i think if a woman just says about the changing

05:44:56.080 of the mind part that's not the part that i'm because we've already we both agreed on that we both

05:45:00.240 agree that you can change your mind about anything okay whether you're married or not whether i would

05:45:04.560 name thing but there i think there's a difference here i think if somebody tells me oh yeah if we

05:45:09.440 end up having kids uh i want them to have your last name i think that that seems like a more static

05:45:18.400 uh i i would have imagined that that's a bit more static than like the nature of an ongoing

05:45:25.440 relationship that seems a bit more dynamic i think that what i'm trying to say is there's no

05:45:29.760 repercussion when you say i'm not going to give my child the father's last name but there is

05:45:36.480 repercussion in divorce and breaking your vows there's repercussions in so many different ways

05:45:42.960 there's no repercussion there's no ought to when it comes to giving your child the last name do you see

05:45:48.480 the distinction that i'm making yeah but he could actually like change thank you for the raid man

05:45:52.320 he can he can change his child's last name like later like you can actually like get paternity and

05:45:59.040 well she's not denying paternity she's no no i don't know no so what i'm saying is so so say

05:46:05.520 that she changes her mind and doesn't want to give their child his last name he can go to court and

05:46:11.680 still change the child's last name do you know what to change a child's last name and it varies in

05:46:16.560 different states because i would i did i came from washington by the way also so to change a child's

05:46:20.880 name first or last there's it's very very hard to go through the process and and i personally know

05:46:26.640 someone who did it and they they succeed i don't understand it's not that you can't do it but you

05:46:31.040 hold on hold on they both have to agree and if they're changing the child's last name that means

05:46:34.720 she's going to have to agree unless she contests it yes the hang-up though i'm i i don't know i don't

05:46:40.240 understand the hang-up here with the last name thing that was the hang-up with the marriage thing

05:46:46.000 it's like look um people don't get married all the time they have kids all the time i don't really want

05:46:53.200 to date like a 50 50 feminist woman i don't think it's all that crazy that whoever i end up having kids

05:47:00.480 with that i'm gonna that that the kid is gonna have my last name it's probably gonna be something

05:47:07.520 we're going to talk about but i think i'm just going to make the assumption that of the women i

05:47:12.000 would be interested in i think it's going to be a given but i'm happy to have the convo just to

05:47:16.400 confirm it what's the hang-up what's the hang-up though on this and honestly what it that wasn't

05:47:21.440 the issue but but but but what's the hang-up with with that was a response you remember you said i gave

05:47:27.360 you a reason why a man would want to marry i said it wasn't progeny i can have lots of kids i said

05:47:32.640 but a woman is able to say when she has a baby with her husband or a boyfriend or a baby daddy

05:47:39.760 she's able to give the baby her last name and she's got more of an incentive to do so and you've

05:47:45.200 got more of an incentive to put a ring on her finger so that she says i've got his last name so now my

05:47:49.680 baby has our last name right but this can be your but your your response is just i'll tell her not to

05:47:56.240 you or i'll have that talk or i'm telling you you have to consider that she has the choice she has

05:48:02.800 the choice in the hospital or wherever she has her baby she has the choice to say the child would get

05:48:08.560 my last name but okay hold on two things and more likely two things so uh that can be circumvented by

05:48:17.040 simply one dating the type of woman who would acquiesce to this request so marry somebody who doesn't

05:48:23.600 divorce to you that's the same logic no no no it's the same logic it's different but i know but

05:48:29.920 there but no but but there's still there's still not answers like what's the benefit especially when

05:48:35.200 he says take religion hold on hold on especially when he says take religion out of it and i was like

05:48:40.960 listening to a lot hold on no there was no religion i know but the last name of a child is like not

05:48:46.640 necessarily a benefit or or negative because i mean my name's my name is hyphenated too it doesn't really

05:48:53.440 all right it hasn't changed anything let me just parse let me parse this super quick okay so two

05:48:58.160 things first um whether you're married or not the woman can make can can do this thing where she

05:49:05.200 doesn't give grants the last name to the children so that it can occur regardless of the marriage

05:49:10.560 status whether you're married to her or not right and she even if you're in marriage maybe she does take

05:49:15.760 your last name maybe she doesn't so the marriage isn't like a silver bullet to getting this and then

05:49:22.480 the other component is i can circumvent this simply by dating the type of woman that would

05:49:28.240 acquiesce to this or if i'm uncertain as to her position on this i simply have a conversation with

05:49:34.560 her at any point prior to getting her pregnant or even while she's pregnant i guess although the ideal

05:49:41.680 time would be prior uh i could have it on the first date i could have it on the third i could have it six

05:49:46.240 months in i could simply have the conversation and it's completely circumvented but i guess

05:49:52.880 man what's the other thing how i just understand how you can use that argument all we have to do is

05:49:57.040 have a conversation and that's the end that's what mature people do and to what your point i didn't

05:50:02.880 when did i bring religion up with the last oh i'm saying he said take it out of it let me just finish

05:50:07.200 this thought let me finish this thought right so i think certain things are static and some things can be

05:50:12.480 more or less static and certain things can be more or less uh dynamic so in this case i think that

05:50:20.800 if a woman tells me uh you know if a woman tells me that she really really doesn't like um

05:50:29.360 broccoli i think i have a fair degree of probability that this is not going to change throughout

05:50:35.120 our lifetime right but if a woman tells me that hey brian i'm going to stay with you forever and

05:50:40.560 i'm never going to leave you my confidence on that statement is much lower than my confidence on

05:50:48.160 you know like if i'm a betting man and she tells me brian i fucking hate broccoli i have like high

05:50:53.760 certainty 99 she's not going to like broccoli at any point whereas like

05:50:59.760 like it's a little less uncertain with the the constantly shifting dynamics in a interpersonal

05:51:08.000 romantic relationship which are not always smooth sailing

05:51:14.240 so i need to move it on a little bit here though but um really quick uh the notion that dating younger

05:51:20.240 women is more beneficial than dating a little bit older i disagreed with that yeah okay so you like

05:51:25.040 you're against age gaps i'm not against it at all like i don't see like a you disagree with something

05:51:29.200 that's morally wrong i do think though that when you're getting too much of an age gap and you're

05:51:33.760 saying you're doing like a 20 year old versus a 40 year old i just think that where they are

05:51:39.680 developmentally is very different and it would actually be not beneficial for him like having been

05:51:45.520 a 20 year old at one point and had a lot of 20 year old friends and then working with a lot of them

05:51:50.560 they're just still trying to figure themselves out they don't know who they are they're still

05:51:54.480 pretty impulsive they're still very like egocentric in their mindset to where it's like

05:52:00.080 i'm inflexible with my way of being and and you have to essentially the older person or the younger

05:52:06.960 person the younger person that's what i see a lot with young girls i almost think it's more moral

05:52:13.120 i'm not sure i i'm not sure though i i think that i think as people get older whether they're men uh men

05:52:19.600 or women i think people get more said in their ways and they dig their heels in a bit really

05:52:25.440 oh yeah maybe i i was the opposite when i was younger i was like still in that mindset of like

05:52:30.480 rebellion kind of when i was like in my 20s and i was just like you can't tell me what to do like

05:52:35.280 i'm not going to submit to you whereas i'm totally different now is that youth or is that culture culture

05:52:41.120 like i think it's brain development i think it's culture i i don't know i mean look uh look i think

05:52:48.240 i think generally speaking when it comes to age gaps and stuff i think the vast majority of women

05:52:52.000 young women they typically want to date men their own age like one or two years older or their age

05:52:58.560 maybe some a 19 year old would date an 18 year old i think although i think most like 19 year old

05:53:03.280 women probably like their age or like one or two years older yeah um so i i'm not saying and by the way

05:53:09.520 it's not like with young women i'm not i'm never saying young women should date older men i'm just

05:53:14.720 saying i don't see an issue with age gap relationships if a young woman wants to date an older man i think

05:53:19.680 that's totally fine i don't think there's like a there's no like moral argument against it and i think

05:53:28.160 from the i guess from the male perspective uh there's probably some benefits

05:53:33.680 and perhaps also from the younger woman's perspective too like a guy who's a bit older

05:53:39.760 he's a bit more established he can be a bit more mature he can provide a little bit better if this

05:53:44.240 woman is desirous of maybe moving moving things along a bit quicker than her peers because i mean

05:53:50.320 a lot of people i'm gonna wait until i'm late 20s 30s to have children i actually don't think that

05:53:54.880 that's an op i don't think that's really optimal although that is how people are moving nowadays i think

05:54:00.080 it's better to have children probably when you're a bit younger that could be early to mid 20s at least

05:54:04.800 for women um i don't know i feel like those girls had to have to get out and like live their lives

05:54:11.680 before they commit themselves to motherhood because it is what does that mean to live your life like

05:54:15.680 just i don't no no i'm not talking about but that's why that's why i feel like it's very cultural it's

05:54:20.720 i don't i i think it's just because that's just what we've grown accustomed to i think it's normal to

05:54:26.160 live your life and and i actually have had a conversation like this similar where people are

05:54:30.400 like well i want to have sex i want to do this i'm like i'm not even referring to and i know i'm

05:54:34.480 just like saying in general it's a very cultural norm to like want to party when you're young or

05:54:40.800 want to live your life i think it is like very cultural i don't even think it's youth because

05:54:45.360 i mean i've had two people who are really really young and i've met like 19 year olds who are like i

05:54:50.240 want to be a husband or i want to be a wife or but they were also raised in a very biblical like

05:54:54.880 like they're very culturally biblical you know what i'm saying so yeah i think on i think on

05:55:00.000 average most like women even like you know your age and even when i was younger my mom was not raising

05:55:06.720 me to like be a biblical proverbs 31 woman absolutely not i mean my mom was also 15 when

05:55:13.840 she had me so again i think it's very very cultural and kind of like what you're shown what

05:55:18.960 you're taught what you're raised with that kind of dictate what your morals are until you've

05:55:23.280 established your own adult understanding of what morals are sorry i know we have really

05:55:28.080 quick i'm gonna let some chats come through i'm sorry for the delay on these guys d george donated

05:55:32.160 70 it is not worth it for a man to get married because there are so many women using the court

05:55:38.480 system to divorce men and take half if not all of his money and assets we can thank feminism for that

05:55:45.760 on this on this topic really quick i mean i brought up stephen crowder earlier he was a christian guy

05:55:50.320 they were both virgins they married each other and she was a covert feminist his wife hillary crowder

05:55:54.880 or whatever so a lot of guys you know you you think you picked the right woman but i don't know

05:56:02.320 sometimes things go sideways and uh i'm not putting all the blame on women but i i actually have somebody

05:56:08.640 who i know personally um who i'm not going to reveal too many details maybe i'll have him come on

05:56:14.320 share his story but this poor guy um i'm not going to reveal too many details but basically he's got

05:56:19.840 a couple daughters and um he he's he's very religious guy he thought his wife was very religious

05:56:28.560 and uh she she ran off she cheated on him and um he's he's going through a divorce now and he's he's

05:56:36.000 getting kind of financially fucked so and he's a good guy so maybe i'll have him come on because he's got

05:56:42.960 a really interesting story on that but uh look i don't i think marriage is kind of an l to be

05:56:48.800 honest marriage is nobody nobody's saying religion is going to save you from getting divorced that's

05:56:53.920 not nobody's saying the sacrament is going to save you from getting divorced i mean it's

05:56:57.520 it's marrying marrying the right person is going to save you from getting divorced because you keep

05:57:02.160 mentioning his christian wife or covert feminist yes because hold on look and the one person i can name

05:57:07.360 for everyone you can name i can name a hundred who've been married over 40 years i'm not around

05:57:11.520 90 people who work 50 percent well that's not true that statistic is is it's flawed if you look

05:57:16.320 it up it's not 50 right well 50 in total but if you look at first marriages yes it's lower to be

05:57:21.920 charitable but uh the reality is i don't know why you're denying the fact that at least i don't know

05:57:27.360 if you're protestant or whatever i'm a christian okay marriage under like a uh more orthodox approach

05:57:34.640 whether that's catholic or orthodox christianity marriage is indissoluble you have christian women

05:57:42.000 who take the sacrament and uh they're just vaguely unhappy there's no abuse there's no cheating there's

05:57:50.320 no infidelity they just fall out of love and they're christian women and they divorce their husbands i'm

05:57:56.560 sorry under true christianity my understanding is uh there's a permanence to marriage divorce is

05:58:05.120 forbidden marriage is indissoluble can i explain to you what the bible says about marriage divorce

05:58:10.000 and remarriage yeah because that that's it's in the scripture that's that's scriptural you're

05:58:15.440 talking about this i can tell you the scripture says let me ask you one question uh if there your

05:58:20.640 perspective as a christian woman if there's no abuse and he treats the kids well and he treats

05:58:26.160 you well but you as the woman are vaguely unhappy despite him treating you well and there not being

05:58:32.320 any abuse there's no infidelity there's nothing you cannot get divorced you don't have authority to be

05:58:38.320 divorced you don't have any authority to be divorced under protestantism under the circumstances

05:58:43.600 you gave under any realm of christianity scripture bible what is stopping a protestant woman

05:58:49.120 what's stopping a protestant woman from getting a divorce she can she can go i don't know who's

05:58:53.200 going to grant her to divorce go get your divorce but the bible does not give any authority to a

05:58:58.080 woman under your circumstances who's unhappy to get a divorce the church does not oversee the the state

05:59:04.720 oversees anybody can get a divorce anybody can what are you talking about i'm talking about the

05:59:08.960 sacrament i thought you were talking about the sacrament anybody who's married can get a divorce no

05:59:13.360 matter what they believe in but the bible doesn't give authority to somebody to be

05:59:17.440 uh divorce except for adultery then but then why are there so many protestant non-denominational

05:59:25.200 christian women hey newsflash everybody christians are sinners too they repent they make mistakes why

05:59:31.840 do y'all why do you keep holding this this false standard to christians oh christians are what you

05:59:36.320 don't even believe in this sacrament why are we holding a candle to the christians and saying hey

05:59:41.760 well they get divorced yeah they make mistakes and a lot of them are in error for the divorces that they

05:59:46.080 have but hold on getting a divorce is like it's not just like oopsie i tripped that is an intentional

05:59:52.240 action that is taken and then they could still be wrong intentionally but there's not an oopsie i

05:59:57.280 got divorced you're smuggling in the word scripture is clear marriage is indissoluble what are you

06:00:04.800 talking about sorry divorce is forbidden absent like abuse or so there are so there are there are

06:00:12.480 caveats exactly so you are what is your argument are you saying people are getting divorced and they

06:00:16.160 shouldn't be getting divorced are you saying that christians shouldn't be getting divorced or are you

06:00:19.680 saying that there are christians who are getting divorced and they shouldn't be getting divorced

06:00:22.480 what is your argument you're you're bringing in you're you're bringing in the the religious

06:00:27.840 component to this you're bringing no no no no you brought it in when you were talking about

06:00:31.920 your friend and his covert feminist christian wife i did not bring it in i followed suit you

06:00:37.440 opened the door i walked right through hold on i'm still trying to understand the point honestly

06:00:42.120 look well he i think he's he's understanding the point so that's fine look you you're like why are

06:00:49.920 you why are you focusing on it like why and i don't know if you're trying to point out like okay

06:00:54.640 well brian you're not religious so like who are you can you be more direct on what the point is

06:01:00.940 no i'm trying to get to the what his point is he's saying he keeps on making this distinction

06:01:05.880 between uh christian this got divorced uh uh non-christian this i'm saying i know what's the

06:01:13.420 what is it it's just like it's just like at the core like what like can you answer his question

06:01:19.260 of what the benefit what's the benefit of marriage for the breadwinner he didn't say there there are

06:01:26.240 thousands of benefits to being married thousands of benefits of being married if you're more

06:01:31.760 not for the breadwinner no no not for the breadwinner and if and if if there weren't

06:01:36.500 i actually i agree with you there weren't thousands of benefits of being married then people wouldn't

06:01:39.960 be getting married period let's let's let's weigh that argument there's thousands of benefits to

06:01:46.020 being married that's why people still get for millions actually for the dependent for the

06:01:50.940 let's keep going for the dependent let's let's keep going let's keep going for the dependent

06:01:56.660 look the the reason i don't even know what that means you're dependent look if you're secular if

06:02:00.860 you have a secular marriage do you know what dependent means yes all right i'll let the

06:02:04.540 christian ate it 69 dollars chair three is disingenuous i have a child with my girlfriend

06:02:14.980 no marriage and made irrevocable trust so that whatever happens to me everything including social

06:02:21.760 security goes to her female propaganda trash that's absolutely not true not the social security

06:02:29.820 part i mean the other stuff you can get around but not i don't know actually no actually that's wrong

06:02:35.100 well it just depends on what aspect of social security because my son's father died if he would

06:02:39.740 have worked enough credits yet my son would get death benefits but he just done up until 18 but not

06:02:46.040 you and we were talking about later in life if he passes away i mean i guess i get that get that but i

06:02:50.760 feel like that should be more for the child anyway so i'm almost okay if the wife doesn't get it so

06:02:56.420 no absolutely but what i'm saying is like in your case and in my case because my son gets it too

06:03:01.380 had we been married because we were together we had a house we had kids we had all of that

06:03:05.620 had we been married when he died i would get double the amount that i have now to support our son

06:03:10.380 together and i was on my own and i but i still think that because we weren't married i didn't yeah

06:03:14.740 and i get yeah just okay um i mean i the super chatter might actually be wrong because

06:03:21.940 what i'm reading here maybe chat gpt is wrong it says social security benefits are non-assignable

06:03:27.040 yes uh you can't assign the benefits to another person or entity uh payments must go directly to

06:03:35.380 the individual beneficiary unless a representative pays i don't know whatever i'm not going to get into

06:03:40.180 the weeds on that but so maybe he's right maybe he's wrong the other stuff he was true about you

06:03:44.920 can go to the legal action of putting in wills and living wills and all these things to cover

06:03:49.440 everything else for her but when it comes to social security and all that money that you paid into

06:03:53.640 it's going to go nowhere if you're not married pasty george donated 70 dollars this legend to chair

06:03:58.640 six silence woman go to bed pasty george nobody asked you anything pasty george she says go to bed

06:04:06.040 get a tan pasty george actually he's he's he's uh don't don't reveal reveal his identity yeah by

06:04:14.140 keep him secret his uh what's a caramel olive complexion yeah i don't even know okay um

06:04:24.300 got beaten cheeks here beaten sorry sorry for the delay on these nine dollars i'll get the rest

06:04:30.740 marriage under the law is the biggest tell any man will have and a retirement plan for a woman

06:04:35.420 divorce initiated 80 percent by women is entitlement women don't deserve from men's hard work laws need

06:04:43.540 to change true well put beaten cheeks we have pasty george coming in then cheeks again and then

06:04:51.960 pasty george pasty george donated 70 dollars a wise man would not marry any woman in the west or in

06:04:58.460 any first world country there is no benefit for the man she gives him children but she can use

06:05:05.080 the courts to take them away along with his money what women are y'all around y'all need to come to

06:05:10.180 the south to go find you a good woman because y'all are around these uh i don't harlots or whoever

06:05:15.920 but i'm not around this type of woman that y'all are talking about 69 dollars women will die on this

06:05:21.900 legal marriage because it's all beneficial for them feminism 101 also all waves of feminism is trash

06:05:30.240 what is one law slash right men have that women don't women oppression equals false

06:05:36.380 thank you been cheeks appreciate it uh she says that women have more rights 70 dollars regardless of

06:05:46.140 whether the man marries the woman who bears his child or whether the child takes the father's last

06:05:51.480 name the child will always have half of the biological father's dna nobody denies science wins

06:05:57.520 thank you pasty george also wins

06:06:01.300 that's true still lineage still lineage uh we have legacy who is this this name is crazy

06:06:11.140 anal skywalker donated 69 dollars chair six has made me rethink the idea of getting married

06:06:21.340 i always thought it was the right thing to do but now that i listen to these broads gaslight and

06:06:27.560 wiggle their way around the answer is crazy shit are you watching i don't know anal skywalker that's

06:06:35.140 crazy i don't want to say that star wars episode

06:06:40.780 okay uh here finishing off with uh your notes siara is it siara siara siara uh you say a woman

06:06:51.620 should focus on a career before focusing on marriage and kids why is that unfortunately i do think that

06:06:57.060 now because in in the world today there's not a whole lot of men who can support a woman and a

06:07:03.380 family on their own i think it's a lot i actually think it's unfair to put that all on him in this

06:07:08.200 day and age and i'm raising a daughter and i would love for her to be more traditional but it would be

06:07:13.740 very um it wouldn't make sense for me to raise her in a way that says find a husband he can support you

06:07:20.800 so i do think that she needs to focus on establishing some type of career so that she's not completely

06:07:27.360 dependent on somebody else because in today's age you can't rely on a man to completely pay for your

06:07:34.220 whole life and your children so i think she has she it's it's she's a complete liability if she goes

06:07:41.080 through life and she's depending on everyone else a man the state to support her she has to have

06:07:46.040 something that she can stand on her own two feet when she needs to with with the mindset that i'm seeing

06:07:51.820 today i think you're absolutely right yeah because they're not made like they are mindset and

06:07:57.720 economics they're not i mean they're not but i i think they're i don't think it's wrong for a woman

06:08:03.740 to secure her you know her living expenses and be in a secure place financially but when a woman

06:08:12.660 focuses so heavily on a career to the detriment of finding uh you know a boyfriend a husband

06:08:20.160 putting off kids until her 30s or whatever i don't think that that's uh i don't know if that's

06:08:27.420 what you're saying that's not what i'm saying i agree with that i'm just saying from the from the

06:08:31.520 ages of when she's like 18 to 23 something establish some type of career so that you can take care of

06:08:39.080 yourself but i think these two things can uh can occur simultaneously like a woman can go to college

06:08:45.820 and while she's in college she can try to find a good guy and if it goes the distance great but

06:08:52.420 uh i think when you say focus i think we're at least my interpretation is focus uh to the detriment

06:09:02.720 of so like i'm gonna you know what i'm gonna go in college and i'm just gonna have a string of casual

06:09:08.740 sexual encounters and not prioritize either during college or shortly after college trying to find

06:09:16.860 potential long-term boyfriends yeah that that's not what i'm referring to and that's not where mine

06:09:23.200 my mind goes is like oh instead of a career you should be out having sex with everybody i'm just

06:09:28.980 saying while she's young establish something so that you're not dependent on everyone else around you

06:09:33.500 yeah before you go into like having kids and things like that i think that's i think that's fine

06:09:39.100 uh but i don't think the i don't think college and career should be at the detriment of

06:09:50.520 finding your person so if she's in college and she's establishing a career you think she should just

06:09:56.520 stop because she found a man she should drop out but i think some people will take take it too

06:10:02.500 too heavy yeah like they'll take it take it too serious i'm not saying you should like you should

06:10:08.020 work hard but it's like and i guess that's gonna depend on your major and how demanding

06:10:13.640 your specific field of study or study is but um i don't know you're gonna boss babe it up and work

06:10:21.660 70 like for example let's say you get your you graduate from college take a modest job working a

06:10:29.100 i mean even the normal nine to five has some complexities to it but don't don't go and do a

06:10:36.040 70 hour work week as a woman yeah i agree with that if you're trying to find somebody

06:10:41.440 that's what i i mean oh read rachel's i love what she's saying oh shit what's up yes rachel yes

06:10:49.060 okay uh shout out rachel thank you for the message man make marriage a sacrament of the church

06:10:54.260 hey rachel thank you thank you appreciate it uh 69 tts pull up twitch really quick we have a few

06:11:00.720 more notes uh oh that's weird why isn't it showing oh my god has it yeah you might have to refresh it

06:11:09.700 guys go to twitch.tv slash whatever drop us a follow drop us a prime sub uh i wonder if we're

06:11:15.400 yeah there's still a lot there's still a lot three three thousand guys i guess i'm just gonna switch

06:11:20.880 over twitch and start playing video games or something guys drop us a follow drop i don't

06:11:24.840 know why it's not showing the prime subs or whatever that's kind of weird it's bugged boys

06:11:28.660 but drop us a follow drop us a prime sub check if you have a prime sub available uh and uh yeah okay

06:11:34.100 blasting through the few little notes we have here uh sab gone we have uh i'll come back to hold on we

06:11:43.240 have dakota uh you don't actually provide all that many notes but we talked about the olympic athlete

06:11:50.440 quite in depth you've been celibate for three years um celibate for three years you had this

06:11:57.980 interesting situationship with the olympic snowboarding athlete dude or whatever yeah

06:12:04.240 did you have any further thoughts on that situation or anything um you said it got better

06:12:11.620 yeah yeah oh yeah you said that like got worse or something or no i didn't say you definitely said

06:12:19.260 that come on give us give us the quick plot synopsis there no i'm there's really nothing

06:12:25.380 there's nothing really to say just like we moved on pretty quickly after okay so yeah loss of virginity

06:12:33.320 26 late bloomer is that real yeah it's legit yeah i was an athlete um played a lot of sports it

06:12:41.840 was a tomboy for the most part wasn't really interested in boys are you toxic i'd say i'm

06:12:47.400 pretty effing normal to be honest no i think you're not any uh diagnoses yeah i mean don't we all have a

06:12:56.360 a little what do you have um bpd i have chronic panic disorder and i suffer from like an eating

06:13:03.620 disorder a little bit so you get panic attacks yeah i don't get them often i've maybe had like 12 my

06:13:13.320 whole life um but in since i was 15 that was the first time but i don't think uh i think if somebody

06:13:21.140 has panic attacks i don't know if that would in terms of how you treat your boyfriend or her

06:13:26.700 i'm thinking more so along the lines of a personality disorder like a bipolar

06:13:30.940 no or bpd or something my mom is bipolar yeah okay uh my my dad obviously has some like mental

06:13:38.300 illness that comes along with being you have any mental disorders no i do not

06:13:42.700 why'd you ask her i don't know i just uh is anybody here autistic felicity yeah anybody autism

06:13:51.380 autism autism i don't know you seem like i don't know i'm trying to get a read on you i feel like

06:13:57.920 a little autistic i feel like or you're just i don't know how to

06:14:02.420 you're special that way you're you're special you're special you're special too no not you felicity

06:14:09.840 the girl i know i'm oh you're just i thought you were saying that in response to me uh yeah

06:14:15.940 okay um so you don't think i think everybody you're retarded um that wasn't very nice i thought that

06:14:24.900 was funny come on that was kind of funny okay tough crowd there it is tough crowd here tough crowd i

06:14:31.380 thought felicity was gonna be a good sport no i did i giggled but i wasn't like you weren't happy

06:14:36.300 with it um i'll ride on the short bus with you thank you wait lauren oh that was the that was the

06:14:45.460 flake okay um let's see here i mean really quick i have a high value christian man get your life

06:14:51.920 together dakota ran shaki we're not supposed to read just wait um get the dakota yeah oh wait we

06:15:02.920 already kind of did go into like what are you like what are your standards right because you seem

06:15:08.620 super picky you know you're am i well you waited you lost your virginia at 26 yeah that wasn't really

06:15:14.360 like i mean i just waited for someone to like me as much as i liked them and that's all that it took

06:15:19.520 it was come on i swear on my life i've always liked someone and they've never liked me back but you had

06:15:24.620 to you had to really like the person is what you're saying yeah it's not just like if the guy you had

06:15:30.520 like medium levels of interest for him but like he was super into you that wouldn't have been enough

06:15:36.260 no right right we have to be equally as into each other right yeah yeah and that's all it took yeah i

06:15:42.560 wasn't hold i'm not like religious i wasn't waiting for marriage or you know okay um this is as simple

06:15:49.060 as that because i mean look yeah i mean you again southern california you went to ucla uh you know

06:15:56.420 you're a good looking gal i'm sure there are plenty of guys who were into you i know i would

06:16:01.220 hope so but no like i said i was a tomboy like my entire life i was a gymnast i you know was around

06:16:07.340 a ton of girls i was in a sorority i was a cheerleader so it was just like all females my whole life

06:16:12.900 you know so uh okay brian or felicity can you read it brian please tell chair six that she needs

06:16:20.860 to lower her voice and speak less if she is to find a high value christian man she's her christianity

06:16:27.060 is questionable she's a faux intellectual and a faux christian scholar thank you for the compliments

06:16:32.560 incorrect words she's black nala ray wow well look um thank you for the compliments i appreciate it

06:16:40.540 she's been married for was it 15 13 years or something 13 years yeah my husband sent me here yeah

06:16:48.400 so she did win she she she did uh she she she got the job done spent is paid so she got the job

06:16:56.180 done so uh yeah if you want to send another one though i'll i'll if you want to revise i guess your

06:17:02.540 position on that um going to i think this is the we have uh hold on what the heck

06:17:09.680 jacqueline uh jacqueline good job modern women men dating dilemma you wanted to talk about feminism

06:17:19.420 covert feminism interracial marriage dating what's what's your thoughts there i don't know what did

06:17:25.260 i well you just that was just a bullet point oh i think oh sorry was that the first one i sent you

06:17:30.380 or the second one i sent you i don't know i just feminism one of them i thought through one of them

06:17:37.380 i didn't think through you asked me to i just started listing things so i don't i i don't know

06:17:41.240 we'll skip those um you believe there is one church you say black americans are more racist than white

06:17:48.360 americans that's an interesting one why is that yeah please give it to me um let's start tossing those

06:17:54.820 i i believe in general i i find that especially given the climate the the demographics of where i

06:18:02.280 live i just think that that's it's kind of obvious most of my evidence i guess for a claim like that is

06:18:09.540 anecdotal there's no statistic that you really can have it's just my livable observable uh experience

06:18:18.420 so i'm not gonna profess to throw out any statistics for anybody

06:18:23.360 i i forgot well i forgot what it was wait what was the question i he i don't think he asked me a

06:18:31.080 question he just uh wrote uh read from some of the notes that he had okay yeah it says uh you also

06:18:39.440 mentioned abortion as well abortion is wrong under every circumstance yeah you want to touch on that

06:18:44.960 oh sure a little um i think abortion is wrong uh under every circumstance period but like

06:18:52.640 i don't know he's not here and i'm just like trying to get the conversation i know um

06:18:58.180 questions yeah does anyone yeah does anyone disagree with her on anything even though whatever

06:19:05.460 all the things that he said that i said anybody have anything to oh she disagrees so why do you

06:19:10.460 disagree well i just think it's the woman's choice to make i don't think it should be under

06:19:15.460 like any government supervision um remember oh sorry no no that's that's it that's my that's my

06:19:20.480 so remember earlier when i said he asked who has more rights or something along that line and i said

06:19:26.060 women have more rights um it takes two people to make the baby right but only one to kill the baby

06:19:32.780 you don't see anything wrong with that i just think if the woman is providing the child like she's going

06:19:39.920 through the labor and doing all that stuff i feel like if she doesn't want to have it then she shouldn't

06:19:45.220 and in the cases of like rape and stuff like obviously like rape is horrible there's so there's

06:19:51.560 people think that there's more women who are getting raped in abortions when i promise you that's not

06:19:57.420 the case absolutely not and even when it comes into biblical stuff like sack like killing your child

06:20:04.920 to make your life easier is literally like a sacrificial like a ceremony like i oh sorry sorry my bad

06:20:13.380 it's a it's a hot topic for me especially because i had one and that was one of my biggest regrets i'm

06:20:21.180 gonna tell you right now when i tell you i couldn't even look at myself in the mirror without wanting to

06:20:26.340 rip my heart out of my chest right i felt lied to and honestly it the reason i did it was literally just

06:20:36.080 that because i wanted to make my life seem easier and when i tell you i really wish my son was here

06:20:42.200 like i i still cry about it i think the industry especially preys on black women

06:20:48.160 to abort their children the most dangerous place to be yes i had an abortion biggest regret of my life

06:20:54.460 absolutely biggest regret i literally had to go to therapy for over a year because i wanted to kill

06:21:00.520 myself over that so and it gets me a little choked up because it's taken a lot to forgive myself yeah for

06:21:07.000 sure yeah uh well a couple things on this um so i mean i guess question for you if we were for the

06:21:16.740 sake of argument uh in the incidence of rape incest mother's life if we were to actually allow

06:21:24.640 abortion in these instances would you then be against all the other instances of abortion

06:21:29.020 like and like do you mean like if as a source of birth control oh well okay so the other instances

06:21:36.760 would be socioeconomic status hi i'm i'm having consent consensual sex with my boyfriend and

06:21:42.940 i got pregnant right or you know well i mean this would be the case well i had a one-night stand or

06:21:51.220 um or yeah i'm dating a guy but i'm neither of us are financially ready yeah so if we go ahead and

06:21:58.400 grants that abortion okay well if a woman's raped or there's incest or the life life of the mother

06:22:05.920 which by the way even for people who are uh pro-life they're fine with life of the mother um

06:22:11.700 would you be against abortion in all other instances yeah i like what wait like no i no sorry no i

06:22:19.500 wouldn't be sorry i got it confused so wait so like okay so in any other like so he's saying he grants

06:22:25.820 you that you the rape incest life of the mother no abortion now all the rest are they allowed to

06:22:32.520 have abortions no they can get abortions wait so you're saying like in any case like anyone could

06:22:38.780 get it no besides these three cases okay rape incest yeah life of the mother absolutely the woman can

06:22:47.040 have an oh yes are you against abortion in all other instances where those aren't factors no i'm not

06:22:53.900 so you're for abortion like in other instances yes okay so then but like in that case why bring up

06:23:02.560 like okay what what if a woman's raped right well still like stuff stuff happens you know like

06:23:08.940 unprotected sex it happens all the time some people decide to do it some people don't you know

06:23:13.240 you have unprotected sex you're allowing yourself yeah what's it yeah please play stupid games win

06:23:20.360 stupid prices i mean like especially on a college campus as adults and you're having sex you should

06:23:26.740 you should make sure that you've got your bases covered if you don't yeah or or don't have sex

06:23:31.260 you don't have to i mean even if you're it's it's really low probability but even uh protected sex

06:23:37.940 there's still a risk of pregnancy we're not going to linger on the abortion conversation for long

06:23:41.880 though i do want to uh let's see i think we're actually good on the notes there's a couple here

06:23:48.740 we'll do this um let the chat come through chris one donated 69 dollars well done chair number three

06:23:58.020 tell other chris he's wrong lol chair number three knows her stuff flexed bicep emoji

06:24:04.220 uh yo chris thank you for the uh tts man really appreciate it guys if you want um we're probably

06:24:11.300 gonna try to get this wrapped up here pretty soon guys so i guess uh final call ish final call ish

06:24:18.340 for the uh for the tts if you guys want to get it in i don't think we'll do a lowering so uh we're

06:24:25.440 gonna do uh we'll just leave it at 69 just because we'll leave it at that um let's see here we have

06:24:34.020 all the like felicity questions that i'm tempted to just do um hmm we did this one uh here can you

06:24:45.460 see felicity just start uh start here how many states are in the u.s starting with you we'll go

06:24:54.560 around the table 50 50 50 50 this is just like our rapid fire what is the capital of the u.s this is

06:25:05.900 a quiz time washington dc washington washington dc washington uh how many stars are on the flag

06:25:14.800 the u.s flag 50 50 50 okay 50 you're getting it right did we do this one already yeah and it was

06:25:23.140 okay uh what century are we in what's what we're gonna go around what century are we in enter

06:25:30.140 century century century century century well i said i said it century and then you know what

06:25:36.440 so century like yes what century are we in oh my god wait i'm blanking i'm so sorry

06:25:41.900 20 20 uh 21 21 21 21st 21st sorry 21st 21st 21st how many are in a dozen let's start here

06:25:55.500 okay we'll go other way yeah let's not put too much pressure on chairman okay 12 and 13 in a baker's

06:26:02.080 dozen okay well i feel like it's the first person guess well these are just really easy

06:26:08.220 these aren't hard this is i feel like these are easy but you'd be surprised by how many people get

06:26:14.240 it wrong uh this one start here okay going opposite way what year was the u.s founded

06:26:22.440 oh jeez it's this one's a bit you got this 17 42 don't whisper the answer to her no i didn't i

06:26:36.480 actually took my contacts out so i can't even read their lips 7 17 let's see we just had like the two

06:26:43.640 i don't know 1776 1776 here how about how about we should be like does somebody have a different

06:26:54.060 answer oh yeah that's true no like uh like if yeah we'll just have anyone who did the u.s gain its

06:27:03.380 independence from oh uh england no not england one of uh oh the british the redcoats those people

06:27:15.840 correct okay yeah uh who was the first president of the u.s george washington

06:27:24.120 concur i agree yes um let's go ahead and do yeah continue on this side please that's go ahead this

06:27:34.620 one what country was what country is the great wall of china in

06:27:37.720 you like this is uh it's an oh wait country country okay china

06:27:46.520 how many inches in a feet and a feet and a foot in the feet how many inches in a foot

06:27:57.740 12 these are just some light easy questions because i feel like the conversation is so

06:28:03.360 intense for the whole show so these are just some final questions to you know how many seasons are

06:28:08.260 there four oh sorry okay four yeah uh okay we're gonna start with dakota now and then we'll go that

06:28:16.220 way um okay how many days in a year 36 these are so yeah what the hell all right uh keep going

06:28:24.500 how many how many letters are in the alphabet 26 24 26 yeah 27 26 yeah wait no it's 26 i was like

06:28:37.860 this is so easy i maybe i should pick who gets asked the question um yeah you pick oh okay how about

06:28:44.960 we're gonna do um we'll do dakota again um okay how many days of the week end with the letter y

06:28:52.340 all of them we need some like crazy answers here ask her uh what is a shape with four sides called

06:29:02.740 square

06:29:04.380 yes

06:29:08.160 how long does each president serve their term

06:29:13.500 should we just have everybody like no i feel like that wouldn't work wait what was your answer

06:29:19.880 you're asking me no no i'm asking for four years okay

06:29:25.040 here um what language do the people in idaho speak english okay who came up with these

06:29:36.080 you did i got scared i have a good one uh how many oceans are there

06:29:42.960 okay and everyone names an ocean atlantic pacific

06:29:51.600 um that's a tough one i know that's not that tough

06:29:57.840 i don't know oceans yeah i don't know

06:30:06.000 can i go it was it was a good try go back wait we have to wait our turn okay did you want to get

06:30:13.540 the other girls oh did you guys want to answer indian ocean southern ocean oh yeah okay is the

06:30:19.400 arctic ocean an ocean yeah there you go yeah okay did you have oceans i think you already said

06:30:25.300 it's land okay somewhere i got nine i'm gonna be honest i read just not about that okay what ocean

06:30:33.460 is california next to pacific i'm wondering if somebody guesses it do we just we just move how

06:30:41.060 about i think probably that makes if we ask them and they get it right we don't ask them the next

06:30:46.500 question like we move it around okay what is half of one million 500 000 how many years in a decade

06:30:53.140 a years in a decade yeah how many years in a century 21 or 20 21 100 oh it's oh my goodness

06:31:04.020 i did it i was wrong thank you let's do here let's do you if a dozen eggs cost three dollars how much

06:31:12.420 is each egg yes you got this i don't i don't do math i'm strictly humanities 25 cents it's not like

06:31:31.300 wait wait wait it's not like crazy calculus oh no you are getting a yellow car bro sorry oh my god

06:31:38.740 that's crazy dakota i thought you were my caucasian i thought you were my caucasian that's up sorry

06:31:44.580 they're so easy what is the okay oh my gosh what what was the answer wait what was the answer oh yeah

06:31:51.700 yeah it's 25 cents okay we're starting with next uh we're gonna go her okay next to you uh what is the

06:32:01.220 closest star to earth oh i know jeez i don't know the north star that's the one i can even oh wait

06:32:10.500 no freaking this is the sun the sun

06:32:12.820 i would have got that wrong i don't even think the north is the closest is it i have no idea i

06:32:20.980 don't know other than the sun wait no felicity what is the closest star the second closest it's the

06:32:26.180 sun bruh is the closest but she said the north stars like that's not even i forgot the sign but

06:32:33.060 it's also not the north star is not i see what you're saying um okay who do you want the next one

06:32:38.180 to go to uh we'll ask it and i'll direct how many degrees is a full rotation of a circle yeah uh

06:32:48.420 360 no yes this one's a bit more this is for dakota come on she's sharp she's smart you know

06:32:57.460 if you are walking perfect north and you turn right 90 degrees which direction are you now going east

06:33:02.980 do you know what year the war of 1812 was 1812 oh we didn't even ask the world war okay we'll do

06:33:12.340 that in a bit okay i'm gonna get it wrong again um what country is the panama canal in

06:33:18.900 oh come on i don't guys don't don't add no no no i'm gonna be honest i don't got it okay

06:33:25.780 just you know what country is the panama canal in

06:33:36.660 crickets

06:33:39.620 yes do you want to guess just guess which country america guess guess a country um

06:33:46.980 south america no that's a continent guess a country oh country oh france oh panama

06:33:53.220 what did you say yeah i'm smart uh here's for dakota where did the attack on pearl harbor take

06:34:01.140 place why are you taking my question in hawaii okay in 1942 for her what country did the vietnam

06:34:08.740 war happen in vietnam no yeah okay this one is like i feel like people get it wrong wait wasn't

06:34:17.540 it for her okay uh in 1960 how much how much is a quarter of an hour how much is a quarter of an hour

06:34:24.260 how much is 25 minutes no no no wait

06:34:30.100 you know 20 minutes no no quarter of an hour how much time is that a quarter of an hour

06:34:36.660 i'm really trying you got this you got this you got this

06:34:40.980 i'm really bad at math guys i can't do it i feel so much better

06:34:44.100 here you what is it 15 minutes okay okay who's the next one i'll just ask and you you direct

06:34:52.660 uh ask dakota what is 100 minus 34 uh 66 what is three times three plus one ten wait what not

06:35:06.020 why are you giving me yeah we're gonna stump you dakota what isn't it's december 7th right wasn't

06:35:13.700 didn't the attack on pearl harbor happen today oh it's december 7th yeah it is what is three times

06:35:20.660 three times three three times three nine nine times three 27. this one is uh to her what does y-e-s spell

06:35:33.700 uh to her if you were born 10 years ago how old would you be today

06:35:37.220 i was born 10 years ago today 10 good job these questions how many world wars were there

06:35:47.780 two okay and this is for everybody we're going to go around the table starting with her

06:35:52.340 uh what decade was world war one what decade yes uh

06:35:58.100 uh wait decade like or century so decade would be like 1980 1990 2000 2010 okay 19

06:36:10.020 10 i think yeah what decade repeat 1910s 1910s yeah 1910s 1910s yeah what they said

06:36:20.820 yeah what was the primary decade of world war ii 19 i think either 1940 or 1950 1940s 1940 1940s yeah

06:36:36.500 the 40s can you name three kardashians kim chloe kendall okay technically she's not a kardashian but

06:36:46.180 uh that's the same thing pretty much uh what percentage of men do you think are over six

06:36:52.020 feet going around the table like over i feel like majority like 60 i think next not even close i'm like

06:37:01.700 maybe 15 in the world or like let's just say the united states uh four percent four percent

06:37:12.020 i don't know exactly i just know it's not as much as we think though i do know that yes throw

06:37:16.420 so you gotta throw a number out 10 okay what do you think i would say 15 to 20 into the into the mic

06:37:23.300 15 to 20 go ahead i was gonna say tennis okay it's i my understanding it's about 15

06:37:30.340 percent oh 60 okay maybe i just think i don't know all the all the guys that uh actually no

06:37:35.940 they're all they're sure okay what percentage of men make at least a million dollars a year

06:37:44.420 here let's start over here just to switch it up what percent um

06:37:52.660 the one percent uh in america i'd say less a little less than one percent yeah like two percent

06:38:02.100 i was gonna say two i was gonna say less than one one okay what percentage of men have yachts

06:38:09.700 have yachts yeah five percent five percent okay what about you like 0.02 maybe 0.5 less than

06:38:18.580 one percent fraction of a percent 0.5 that sounds good okay um do you keep a list of all the men

06:38:25.540 you've slept with be honest no like in your phone you know how you have the notes some girls do that

06:38:31.060 like yeah you have it yeah how long is the list i'm not gonna it's not long wait did she give a

06:38:36.820 ballpark or no no no i wasn't here i wasn't here um anybody keep a list no scrapbook notepad nothing

06:38:45.700 okay scrapbook what you put their picture yeah some girls do that shit okay do you have a roster

06:38:53.380 no because you've been single for two years right like it's about to be two years yeah

06:39:00.500 no uh is there a guy in the picture currently yeah but i don't want him you wait you don't want him

06:39:07.380 like he's a frat guy but like you guys have been like a situationship or hanging out no i mean hang

06:39:16.820 out kind of but like i i kind of blow him off okay you blow him off oh my god um okay roster have

06:39:24.100 you ever had a roster yeah like dating freshman year of college how big was the roster it wasn't

06:39:29.060 that big not that big no like five like four to five four to five four to five what about you ever

06:39:35.540 had a roster no never i mean no that's like a list of guys that you like yeah no no what about you

06:39:44.340 roster right now no yeah i'm very happily taken um no i've like hung out with multiple people but

06:39:52.340 not like a roster roster no roster no roster you have does that mean by rotating you know like guys

06:40:01.060 you have on call or something so how about here i guess we could do it like no but you're guys that

06:40:06.980 you're dating at the same time oh dating hooking up with heavens no i don't know if i believe that

06:40:14.180 but um we'll do this one starting with her if you can direct it have you ever slept with someone the

06:40:20.900 same day you met them yeah how quick was it san francisco 30 minutes definitely never faster

06:40:30.980 than that so that was the quickest 30 minutes okay going around the table yeah well yeah what was

06:40:38.180 the question did i answer that right uh it was like have you ever slept with someone the same day you

06:40:42.180 met them oh uh if not or if yes how quick oh it was like a few hours like it was like okay never

06:40:51.220 never never 24 hours no never never never wait what oh well the olympic guy i was talking to him

06:40:59.220 beforehand and we met it was the second date though yeah yeah what about you no okay anyone here ever

06:41:05.220 had a threesome be honest never maybe no and wouldn't okay i can't see the rest wait did we

06:41:14.340 you haven't like hooked up with a guy the same day you met him never no okay um

06:41:21.620 a pretty conservative panel that's what i thought from the beginning right uh foursome more than a

06:41:27.460 threesome i guess anyone had a hoe phase show of hands if you've had a hoe phase look i was young

06:41:34.660 near a military base near a military base okay this is for the girls what was your what was your

06:41:43.220 hoe phase to everyone that raised their hands yeah what was your hoe phase that you had like explain

06:41:47.620 it in brief i guess i mean just doing it too often and indiscriminately with different men you're

06:41:55.860 saying though yeah not not at the same time what was your hoe phase fresh out of a relationship and i

06:42:01.620 went like first time in college and stuff so i just like went out and partied a lot kissed

06:42:05.460 kissed a lot of guys so okay uh-huh and you oh just younger being near a military base and like being

06:42:14.260 like fresh 18 and stuff like that and yes uh question for you over here um because i think a lot of people

06:42:24.260 said no but um has anyone here ever hooked up with two guys in a 24-hour period no not that

06:42:31.620 no no no two in a day i'll put it in a week yeah what about the seven day period how many guys

06:42:39.940 two not no more than two no more than two okay what about the one month period three

06:42:47.860 in my hoe phase yeah i think i could have gone like every week doing a different guy okay um

06:42:57.620 which is gross i i now realize that is gross okay um

06:43:04.340 how's it i do we just do like a 20 minute roast session there's probably chats that need to come

06:43:10.660 in anyways that's true let me get those in time permitting i think that's uh any i guess opening

06:43:16.180 it up to the panel any topics anybody wants to hit on here like any final thoughts from anybody

06:43:21.460 think about it for a moment chris one donated 69 dollars well done we did this one tell

06:43:28.020 oh my bad wrong lol my bad uh my bad i have the next one coming in sorry sorry about that sorry

06:43:36.580 sorry uh it's coming in in just a sec just a moment any moment now any second any second there we go

06:43:46.660 pro shotty donated seventy dollars yo pro shotty good to see you again good to see you man when

06:43:52.580 do we get your partner brother back sorry new to the show so forget his name andrew also what do

06:43:58.500 y'all think about the smartest person in the room is usually the quietest

06:44:05.460 like i'm the quietest and i'm definitely not the smartest here so not necessarily but what's that

06:44:11.060 saying related to this um uh oh shit i'm i'm better to remain silent than open your mouth and

06:44:22.900 remove all doubt wait i'm missing a part of it um better to be remain silent and be thought of a

06:44:28.980 fool than to open your mouth and remove all yes yes thank you well done yes yes that's it i love that

06:44:34.820 quote um okay we have pasty george here my friend pasty george your best friend your bff in canada

06:44:44.500 pasty george donated 70 dollars to the panelists from chairs one to seven what legislation did the

06:44:51.300 canadian federal government use to forcibly relocate indigenous people and criminalize their

06:44:56.580 rights languages and cultural practices any canadians here oh do you pasty george do you

06:45:03.780 also want to talk about um i don't know how would anybody want to

06:45:13.620 all i know is that they killed a bunch of ostriches recently

06:45:17.620 did you guys see that unbelievable are you an ostrich advocate you know i love animals

06:45:25.940 but to shoot 400 of them when they had herd immunity was crazy but for no reason or was it

06:45:32.340 hunting they claimed it was like because they had diseases but they had gotten past those diseases

06:45:38.260 and had herd immunity so they should have been used for science to study the antibodies and they

06:45:44.020 slaughtered 400 of them the owner was because of the bird flu yeah it was because of some sort of

06:45:50.180 flu that they got which they all overcame none of them died could have used it for i think it was big

06:45:55.060 pharma if we're going to put on our tin foil pants didn't they say there was some type of magic in

06:46:00.020 like the eggs of ostrich or some type of thing yeah that's special about the ostrich yeah i don't

06:46:05.060 know it that particular i just know this this particular situation that happened um you know

06:46:12.020 i mean as to why they actually the conspiracy behind why they would eradicate them they wanted to

06:46:17.540 kill them because they were diseased but really all of them got over the disease and science could

06:46:23.060 have used them to study the antibodies and they instead they killed all of them but i mean like

06:46:30.420 i don't know if i agree with this because like the lab in wuhan or in china they were studying

06:46:38.740 the the virus right and there's i mean i don't know if it's ever been proven definitively

06:46:45.780 but the preeminent theory is that there was a lab leak yes so it's like that in fact maybe it's

06:46:51.940 probably better that we murked some ostriches to prevent another fucking scamdemic no because i

06:46:59.620 mean they were they were immune no one got sick all all of the no kill the fucking ostriches

06:47:05.860 oh my gosh you love big pharma oh get out of here what would that have to do with big pharma they

06:47:11.460 would use it as a fucking pretext for another scam scamdemic actually true also if there was a

06:47:17.860 fucking outbreak of bird avion flu no merc the birds no merc the i know we kill we kill a lot of

06:47:25.220 no i i'm doing uh what i think we just killed like 40 million chickens because of bird flu

06:47:30.820 merc the chicken which is why the eggs were so expensive huh you're so educated on birds

06:47:37.540 well it's politics that's politics they'd already survived it

06:47:40.820 bro all right are they talking about that who knows what's true they apparently so the ostriches

06:47:48.180 did were sick they were sick and they survived so science should have studied the antibodies are we

06:47:53.220 sure they sir yes are we sure they were they cleared the illness yes this is major this is major news in

06:47:59.300 canada but with it like how are you gonna test how do you know you you test their plasma and their blood

06:48:04.180 and then you get the antibodies from it i think maybe we just murk all just murk the mark the

06:48:10.500 fucking ostriches no well big pharma doesn't want cures which is why wait question for you yeah

06:48:16.180 to have avoided hypothetically to have avoided covid you personally had to mark 400 hostages would you

06:48:23.220 have done it um if covid wasn't lethal like so no i wouldn't have killed a bunch of birds to

06:48:29.140 you would wait you wouldn't hold hold on hold on to have prevented covid you mean worldwide

06:48:36.100 or just me personally getting covid no no not you personally oh okay then worldwide of course i'd

06:48:41.540 kill 400 birds to to save humans yes of course i would okay i wouldn't want to do that i thought

06:48:47.220 you meant me personally of course like oh yeah no i don't know i wouldn't yeah but that i would take

06:48:51.620 a cold i was about to say i was about to say i was about to say actually i would also rather just

06:48:58.020 get covid than murk 400 birds but come honestly i think i'm down to no you're not look i don't like

06:49:05.780 you're not the sniffles i don't know if i want the sniffles for a couple if you saw the animals like

06:49:10.260 your heart you're not give me an ar-15 i'm gonna murk 400 birds to not get covid look i'm a busy guy

06:49:18.980 i got a business no i'm i'll be fine but look i i don't want to have to not do a show for a week

06:49:25.620 you're trying to be tough you're trying to be tough right now and you're not trying to be i

06:49:28.660 know you're an animal lover and you're being fake this is this is big yo chat let's do a poll in the

06:49:33.700 chat let's do a chat in the poll chat would you murk 400 birds to not get covid one time one time

06:49:42.260 i might take that deal that's so wild it's like a like you have for like five days and then you're

06:49:46.980 fine look yeah you women when you get the flu or you get we're tough we get the man flu

06:49:52.420 i'm fucked i i got covid and i was fucked up for like two weeks that shit sucked oh i could just

06:49:59.540 imagine that you were i was not happy i would there's a lot of phlegm i'm murking 400 ostriches

06:50:06.260 and honestly covid could actually unlock autoimmune diseases in you one of my clients but when i first

06:50:13.140 was like tattooing her she had super healthy everything she got covid and she's terminal now

06:50:18.980 due to like i know it's crazy so she would mark 400 options and she has a great sense of humor so

06:50:25.060 she would be good funny but no i'm just thinking about no i'm just thinking about sorry but like

06:50:32.420 what is the least i'm willing to suffer and the trade-off is i have to murk for 400 birds you would

06:50:40.660 like about stubbing your toe i was about to say you would avoid stubbing your toe or something you

06:50:47.540 would avoid like someone touching the rim of your cup honestly i would murk 400 birds for nick to not

06:50:54.660 get sick like that's not even me i nick if you got if it was like okay nick has to get covid or i have

06:51:02.340 to murk 400 birds i'm gonna yeah it's i'll murk i'll murk no judgment you're what you're welcome

06:51:11.780 nick you're what i'm such a nice boss what about me what about me yeah you can get it yeah you can get

06:51:18.100 sick for listening just kidding just kidding um let's see we have some chats coming through hold on

06:51:23.620 based thor donated 69 there is no such thing as a 304 phase once a 304 always a 304 i used to murder

06:51:38.340 but i don't murder anymore therefore i'm not a murderer ladies if beauty was a crime you all would

06:51:44.980 be innocent thank you all right fine i'll take it i'll just call myself a reformed host

06:51:53.620 now i like that we're all we're all redeemed anyway the blood of christ so all right we have uh

06:52:02.340 bluff is donated 30 dollars thank you brixen likes his 403s to be like covid 19 and easy to spread

06:52:16.020 what what okay um they're really creative like

06:52:23.540 men are creative let's just call women whores like yeah love it well i think they're creative

06:52:28.660 never done before exactly i was a virgin for until i was 26 and i was called a whore yeah like if the

06:52:36.900 she fits yeah yeah little do you know i like to call nuns whores right that's yeah even nuns are a

06:52:45.060 whore you're probably the biggest whore here you're the biggest whore here felicity you just give me

06:52:49.460 whore vibes especially young brian let's let's see young brian oh my god felicity okay stop

06:52:55.140 those blue eyes stop gooning actually i recently found my like i think i was my junior or soft i

06:53:03.380 think live both junior sophomore year uh yearbook photo and i'm gonna post i'm gonna post on my instagram

06:53:11.460 maybe throwback thursday this week wow i'm excited that's weird i was like 15 you

06:53:20.020 fucking yes what the fuck i didn't like some of what you said abruptly but your christian points

06:53:25.140 were very well spoken you showed me i should be more patient although god bless your man for his

06:53:30.980 patience less than for his patience yes wait hold on felicity i'm not gonna let you evade this bro

06:53:37.380 so i said i said i thought you said junior that's like 18 no i said my high school seniors 18 sophomore

06:53:44.980 and junior yearbook photos which is like 15 16 and felicity was like i want to see that bro okay okay

06:53:53.060 let me explain i actually didn't mean it like that and then you were like gave me a weird look and then

06:53:56.660 i played into that i meant like that but i didn't mean like that yeah that's crazy felicity oh

06:54:02.740 shit okay no i only i only i only fuck older i didn't say that felicity's just digging the hole

06:54:11.380 here um okay let's see oh uh i was asking if any if there were any final thoughts from any of the

06:54:18.100 panelists any final thoughts thank you for having me anybody wanted to land on something what are

06:54:25.940 thoughts i'm just a ho that was a good one nice okay um we have a i'll allow some more chats to come

06:54:35.860 through we do we have some more chats to come through pasty george donated thirty dollars i chose

06:54:41.380 not to get the c vaccines and i got covet three times and beat it each time a friend of mine was

06:54:47.940 forced to take them by her job and she died two weeks later from sudden onset heart failure the myocarditis

06:54:55.140 yeah a lot of heart issues from the jab um young crazed panda donated thirty dollars

06:55:04.100 isn't funny how most women wouldn't kill birds be they have no problem mares and the babies

06:55:10.820 never had an abortion and i'm against abortion so i hope he's not talking about me no i think he was

06:55:16.260 probably in general yeah but generally it's true totally and again i'm guilty of it but

06:55:22.500 never again never never again i don't even care if it's a horrible way it happens it wasn't it's not

06:55:30.660 worth it golden questions donated twenty nine dollars and nineteen cents chair one your brainwashed

06:55:37.540 feminist you lend up like chair seven alone delusional and old thinking someone wants you

06:55:44.500 even if they tell you even if they tell you otherwise please change family gives you purpose not work

06:55:57.060 that's okay mean mean person pro shotty donated twenty nine dollars chair five sadly i think you are

06:56:08.100 taken but you are as beautiful outside as you speak internally to us we all make mistakes growing

06:56:14.980 up i'm sorry about your loss but you are a nice little message there thank you all right thank you

06:56:22.740 pro shotty really appreciate it man um let's go to twitch really quick we'll we'll shout out twitch

06:56:26.900 guys final call on the tts if you want to get it in final call thirty dollar tts final call guys i don't

06:56:32.580 know why it's that's weird um can you yeah try one more time i don't know i don't know why it's uh

06:56:42.980 that's weird um can you click on activity feed up there

06:56:48.980 uh actually no no no uh click on filters

06:56:51.380 wait that's weird i don't know unfortunately i'm not able to shout any of you guys out but i it's

06:57:07.300 bugged boys i told you i always tell you it's bugged final call for twitch guys thank you so much for

06:57:12.660 watching on twitch drop us a follow drop us a prime sub if you have one final call for twitch

06:57:17.060 if you have amazon prime you can link it to twitch quick for easy way to support the show every

06:57:20.660 single month all right we have some chats coming through

06:57:27.300 pasty george donated thirty dollars if i had to murk a bunch of birds to prevent another

06:57:32.900 scandemic by governments and big pharma i would hell yeah let's go uh oh we got sons of liberty coming

06:57:41.060 in so on soft liberty donated twenty nine dollars b i almost drowned surfing the boom in nicaragua

06:57:49.460 have you ever had a drowning experience surfing long or scary hold downs by the way trans women are

06:57:57.300 men i don't think anyone disagrees just a little sprinkle sprinkle you know surfing in california

06:58:04.900 truthfully like the sometimes we'll have like massive big swells but overwhelmingly the waves

06:58:11.460 typically don't get freak like don't get too big um i don't think i've had uh a super scary

06:58:21.060 hold down but i mean i've surfed i've had some uh i've definitely had some like surfing hold downs

06:58:29.540 where i'm like out of breath and i'm like probably a few more uh but i i'm not like

06:58:40.420 training for like big wave surfing or anything but like i've been out on

06:58:46.420 like

06:58:49.380 double overhead days i think and i've had some hold downs they're a little sketchy but i know nothing

06:58:54.980 nothing too crazy so yeah but that's that's crazy man that's crazy you gotta be careful of surfing

06:59:00.740 man people die people die um we have blahfest here blahfest donated thirty dollars every woman should

06:59:10.020 be able to get an abortion whenever and wherever they like it's their body their choice the only

06:59:15.940 condition being each time they should have to get a prison style tear drop tattoo that's an interesting

06:59:21.300 one okay i love the caveat they have a a little mark or something okay um they'd probably do that

06:59:29.780 trade like to ensure abortion rights in perpetuity you have to get it they'd do that they take the

06:59:36.900 trade pasty george donated thirty dollars yeah thank you i want to thank the panelists who stayed for

06:59:42.500 the entire show and to brian our host thank you all and good night p.s i will try to be here for

06:59:49.540 every episode but no oh hey yeah oh my goodness pasty george with the little the change up hey

06:59:56.180 man um i'd we'd love to the the audience likes you we all like you here or whatever man so

07:00:03.620 i know you said you were taking some time off but man you're you're always welcome if you want to tune

07:00:07.860 in and bro you don't even you don't even have like just watch the show man just say hi you can just

07:00:12.980 say hi in the chat the chatters like you man but uh you know i'm like pleasantly that made my day

07:00:19.060 though honestly that made my day to see see pasty because uh i thought he was gone i was like damn it's

07:00:24.900 like lost a friend uh but good to see you in the chat man stop by anytime man anytime if you you got some

07:00:37.460 free time um i can't pronounce your name but chair six should debate andrew on theology would be great

07:00:44.260 you want to debate him not here you could just call him i guess dude call him i don't know if you

07:00:50.580 guys would what you guys would really disagree on but uh i don't know uh kanaki kanachi am i saying

07:00:58.100 kanachi kanachi okay uh is there anything else we have to go over no i feel like i'm forgetting

07:01:04.660 something don't lie felicity you liar you always say i feel like i'm forgetting something uh let's

07:01:09.460 see um was there a meme oh no no no you you don't have to show that no all right well um trying to

07:01:20.180 think yeah gee i'm just gonna say wait wait give me like 30 seconds to think if i'm i feel like i'm

07:01:28.340 forgetting something i won't fuck anything up we're gonna skip we're gonna skip the makeup we already did

07:01:33.620 the oh oh nick the uh the the the swaps the the ai okay we'll do that two minutes we're gonna do it

07:01:40.420 super quick um we have both gender swap and okay so super yeah last final segment uh and then also

07:01:50.180 guys while we're doing the segment if any of you want to get in a roast you're more than welcome to

07:01:53.700 30 tts uh do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years time hope at 29 what about 39 20 years okay

07:02:02.500 uh you're uh you're 38 yeah they're looking in 10 years time 48 yeah probably yeah 48 yeah i think so

07:02:11.780 what's gonna change um i get a lot of botox do you have unlimited botox do i have unlimited isn't there

07:02:20.340 don't they sell like unlimited i don't know botox plans uh 58 what about 58 um probably better looking

07:02:28.740 now then i will be at 58 okay and then going backwards uh are you better looking now or are

07:02:33.620 you better looking at 28 now hands down 18 38 now okay yeah uh you are 36 yes right better looking in

07:02:44.900 10 years time 46 not better looking no the same no okay uh 36 going back 10 years 26 better looking 26

07:02:54.020 no i think i peaked at like 30 to 32 okay uh for you you're 30 yeah better looking in 10 years

07:03:02.740 40 no better looking 10 years ago 20 no i was really overweight so so now better looking uh you're 41

07:03:12.900 better looking 51 no uh 31 better looking oh no yeah 31 yes 21 better looking no

07:03:22.420 i don't wait 41 better than 21 no 41 better 41 i'm confused all right so 31 was better i think

07:03:35.700 than 21 31 better than 21 21 better than 41 yes okay what about you you're 33 better looking in 10 years

07:03:44.020 time 43 43 no i'm deteriorating rapidly actually

07:03:53.140 you know i love i love the honesty i love it i do you gotta you gotta give the props

07:03:59.380 she's honest self-aware uh you have a great yeah you're so fast okay and then uh 23 uh were you better

07:04:08.820 looking at 23 or now at 30 yeah that was basically my peak 23 at 23 okay there it is so we do a segment

07:04:15.220 where we put you guys through ai we age advance you so we're gonna do that it's fun it's fun yeah it's

07:04:22.100 quick uh okay we have pro shoddy hold on let me do the chats first pro shoddy donated 29

07:04:30.420 dollars brian brian you do a great job on your own it is not easy to run a fun conversation show like

07:04:37.540 this andrew okay that's his name when can we have you both back uh soon we'll get him back

07:04:45.060 30 dollars w felicity for doing laundry don't snore or she'll kill you with a pillow that she washed

07:04:52.500 he didn't die he just suffocated for a second yikes uh thank you pro shoddy thank you big pull out all

07:04:59.300 right we're gonna do the age advancement segments uh one two or wait hold on let me yeah perfect boom

07:05:05.540 oh my god it's a job you look cute cute little grandma what i don't know if this is a peek into

07:05:14.340 our future yes wow why are you laughing so hard ai is crazy oh my god really enjoying that sativa

07:05:24.820 it's just because i remember mine and it was so bad all right next ready keep i think you're

07:05:32.900 ready are you ready dakota yes are you ready i am ready it's not dakota oh my wait what it's the

07:05:39.700 other girl oh we'll show we'll show it yeah yeah that's fine we'll show it just for funsies she's

07:05:44.820 cute oh she looks like selena she's adorable okay yeah she's very cute i'm sorry no it's it's totally

07:05:51.380 fine um next oh no that was nice it's good it's not bad that's not bad you look like a southern yeah

07:06:03.540 for sure all right uh next it's cute that's a big jump though actually it's not that bad

07:06:11.780 it doesn't look bad it's not bad that's wild normally they age graceful i look like my father

07:06:17.460 you look like your dad wow that's hot uh next

07:06:26.820 scoot scoot to the table just a teeny bit sorry beautiful daughters look like their fathers

07:06:31.220 that's what they say this doesn't even look that bad i think they oh

07:06:37.300 i look i don't look like my grandma there i should be looking like my grandma

07:06:42.980 oh i need to get closer before you show them i took out my contacts i'm very blind wait we're

07:06:51.060 no we're like about to show it yeah just squint it's really gonna help trust me next

07:06:57.860 you're adorable oh my gosh that's adorable that looks good mine was the worst

07:07:06.580 they gave you like a frog that was not i do that sometimes i kind of rip next no don't know how

07:07:13.540 cute okay cute wow how do you feel about that

07:07:16.900 can we guys see it again um i look pretty orange i look like donald trump on the

07:07:22.260 yes you do you do you actually do i see it yeah oh oh that is the best

07:07:28.500 santa yikes like a little gnome yikes yeah that one's good i'm already fat

07:07:34.500 i like that i like that great love it love it wonderful i love it that's fucked up um next

07:07:42.820 oh the gender swap okay we've also changed all of you into men uh so the question is would you date

07:07:50.020 the male version of you oh this one was no no i don't i don't think that looks like i hope that

07:07:57.700 doesn't it changed you quite a bit to be honest do you have a brother yeah i do does he look like that

07:08:02.500 no not that bad yeah all right next

07:08:08.260 oh it's her she looks cute

07:08:13.940 oh you know what you're actually handsome whoa you look like this guy i used to date

07:08:19.140 the beard i do do you have a brother yeah i do but he like that does not look like my brother that's

07:08:23.860 funny uh okay next oh yeah these ones are really good actually he's handsome would you date the

07:08:32.420 male version of you into the mic it depends on how tall he is uh six feet i'd date him all right

07:08:39.620 next um why they make you asian you know someone thought i was asian today so that's kind of funny

07:08:47.780 yeah i don't know what that is that's that's like blay blaysian or filipino i see filipino for

07:08:56.740 sure yeah okay i think it was because of my expression but could be yeah uh next oh

07:09:03.940 that kind of looks like my brother oh shit kind of kind of yeah okay he's attractive he's very

07:09:10.100 attractive he's like a handsome wait

07:09:16.660 he doesn't he's black but he doesn't look black the hair looks like indian it's because the hair

07:09:22.260 it doesn't i don't know if that makes sense but he looks black but i i kind of see what you're

07:09:26.100 saying he doesn't i don't know whatever um next okay that's free that's you

07:09:35.860 nice oh really nice that's you if you have like if it was a more chiseled jaw it'd be a win

07:09:43.700 yeah my brother has it was a little soft you can watch it back after the stream oh you can't

07:09:50.180 i had to take him out my contacts got way too dry wait what let me see you kind of look like a

07:09:56.980 like a twink a little bit like dead behind the eyes that's how i already look all the time that's true

07:10:03.220 i have like no thought behind my eyes um i don't know he looks weird i don't really like that hat

07:10:11.460 all right next okay of course uh yeah i would date her the one preferably the far right i guess

07:10:19.860 she's longer hair whatever okay uh i think i'm pretty sure that's uh it i do want to uh

07:10:29.380 what's that

07:10:34.100 we're gonna wrap we're gonna wrap um just want to double check i want to make sure there are no chats

07:10:39.380 that came through if any do as i do my intro i'll be sure to get them but um i want to say gg

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