00:56:49.660She could be, from a bird's eye view down, from an outsider perspective, she could be the least deserving of a man being traditional and paying for dates.0.97
00:56:59.180It doesn't mean, well, we can get to that, it doesn't necessarily mean that she's not going to get it.0.77
00:57:03.740Like, plenty of men are going to take OnlyFans girls and prostitutes and porn stars out on dates and pay for the dinner.
00:59:09.260you said a man needs to get a woman needs to get fucked and a guy to come in her and then a guy1.00
00:59:14.660just needs to date her that that that's the that's the level that you're putting it at why not a girl1.00
00:59:19.280just dating through guys and having normal dates and not fucking and getting cummed in and then0.99
00:59:23.880meeting the guy later on for a next date why did you have to put it at the opposite end of the 3040.99
00:59:28.460whole spectrum well first why can't why can't it be the guy that gets fucked and comes in comes in0.93
00:59:33.640the girl and then does all of that and then meets her yeah yeah an hour later well so two things0.98
00:59:37.980First off, your framing of, well, it's very extreme for a woman to be sexually active with one man, meanwhile she's dating, like going out on dates.
00:59:49.780I actually don't think it's that extreme of a situation or that uncommon that a woman has like a friends with benefits or a sneaky link or, you know, a fuck buddy or a situationship.
01:00:00.440and she's not quite in like monogamous relationship territory and all the while she's going out on
01:00:06.760dates with other men with an expectation for them to pay I don't think it's fair to frame that as
01:00:11.140like some like really outlier thing I think it's actually fairly common but uh and sorry what was
01:00:16.560the second part of your thing it's just the way you phrased it and I said you put women at the0.98
01:00:20.220other end of the spectrum saying a guy's meeting her that day fucking her coming oh and what if men0.96
01:00:25.220And then the men, it was just like he was just dating her and meeting her that night.0.98
01:00:29.520Yeah, and so what if men are doing that?
01:00:31.020So I would have a similar objection for men to be moving in that way too.
01:00:37.100I don't believe, no, I think there's some degree of difference, but I don't think men should be promiscuous either.0.65
01:00:42.260Now, there's some differences a little bit, but I think promiscuity is bad in both men and women.
01:00:48.660but the reason the reason i'm specifically making this about women is because it's about the this0.57
01:00:55.400one directional expectation from women to men about who should pay for the first date there
01:01:00.760is no typical expectation uh that men place on women to like pay for first dates or really do
01:01:07.260anything on the first date uh in terms of really something they do a benefit they provide or or
01:01:13.780something like that so you're talking about an effort for an effort expectation for an expectation
01:01:18.540this scenario yeah if if the expectation is i want to hold men to a traditional standard
01:01:23.180i believe women should hold like you should be adhering to your own traditional standard and i
01:01:29.820think women are sort of have forsaken uh many of their own traditional standards that's just
01:01:34.600that's just a societal norm that's like men women saying okay men for hundreds and thousands of
01:01:40.760years have been keeping their hair short now men should automatically have their hair long and
01:01:45.060women should have short hair and that should be the size and that should be the societal norm now
01:01:49.160it's been a societal norm for men to pay for dates for men to court the woman for men to0.98
01:01:55.120be the provider be the protector and why should a man be in be in his feminine energy and not
01:02:02.320protect and not provide and not be there for a woman because that's his instinctive behavior
01:02:07.120within not even within humans within animalistic uh within animals within you know other other
01:02:14.480realms of society as well not just humans can i just really quick um are you making a0.98
01:02:20.360it sounds to me a bit like you're making a defense of it's okay for women to be whores
01:02:29.360is that do i i'm not saying it's okay to women to be whores i i don't accept that as well i don't
01:14:23.360And men have been able to date and it's okay.0.94
01:14:26.760But when, especially in my time and era, and all of a sudden women are dating.0.90
01:14:31.360I mean, you're dating to see if you like someone or if you like, you know, who you like, what you like, especially when you're younger.0.53
01:14:37.540You're trying to figure out who you are and what you're looking for when you're younger.
01:14:41.660Yeah, well, that's what I was trying to say.
01:14:51.080Let's say a woman starts dating at 18, and so she goes on one date per week, which apparently to some people on the panel, that's like really minimal.
01:15:00.500that like, whoa, you're really like hampering down on your options or whatever. That's 52 dates in a
01:15:07.100year. If you go on one per week, that's 52 individual men. Like how long does it take you
01:15:12.600to find the guy? Like ultimately like this idea that you got to be stacking dates and like going
01:15:18.660on multiple dates per week. Look, you can do it. And if you find that that to be the most effective
01:15:23.660strategy for you as a woman to do, uh, I guess by all means, but I'm speaking strictly from the0.97
01:15:29.720perspective of, hey, if you're going on that many dates, I'm just going to assume that you're not
01:15:33.880really all that inclined to actually pursuing something serious. You're probably just dating
01:15:38.900around. You've got, okay, if I'm going on a date with a girl, let me put it in this perspective.
01:15:43.280How about this? Let me frame it like this. Because I'm throwing in, okay, some guy's comment is
01:15:47.760inside her. She's stacking three dates in a night, two dates in a night. How about this?
01:15:52.360Maybe this is more realistic. I go on a date with a girl. Say I meet her on a dating app.
01:15:58.080And on the date, I'm like, so how long you been on the apps?
01:40:22.660Yeah, so I wonder from the male perspective, though, like, if a girl was going to cut things off, would I want her to cut it off, like, just after the first one?0.89
01:40:32.100nah I'd want to hit at least like 10 times I think0.81
01:40:35.420so you put in all that energy for 10 times to hit it 10 times you put in all that energy0.99
01:40:43.780calls text messages pretending that you care about her fucking life you put all of that in0.98
01:40:49.720okay so what do you do I had to keep coming back recurring 10 times what do you do that's so0.99
01:40:55.540interesting hmm well i wasn't making a plan about that but um right ultimately though yeah i think
01:41:02.660uh at least you want to hit like at least four times you know okay so what would you do to make
01:41:08.600her recur want to hit that four times it's not that deep i wasn't what are you so interesting
01:41:12.420about you i wasn't i wasn't even making the claim i think he's just rolling well i mean i assume i
01:41:18.180assume that if uh if she wants to continue seeing me then uh it's either status if you don't bring
01:41:26.380anything to the table status money fame that's all you got to offer like if you don't have a
01:41:32.420personality you don't have anything any substance what else do you have i'm not saying you don't
01:41:36.820have but i'm just saying if you don't have if you didn't have any of that what what else would you
01:41:42.020bring to the table money status are you asking in general you're asking specifically what
01:41:46.800you what i bring to the table you want me absolutely absolutely tell you what remind me
01:41:52.700in uh in two hours and i'll answer the question we'll we'll get to that we'll go over we'll have
01:41:57.780everyone uh we'll we'll have everyone go around the table but uh well now i feel tempted to just
01:42:03.060answer it right you might as well i feel tempted to just answer it right now so okay what do i
01:42:09.020bring to the table uh well let's see here uh on the looks front frankly not much uh to be fair
01:42:16.000though i'm tall blue eyes dark hair up for the bite but i need to lose some weight i'm a little
01:42:19.980chubby right now speaking of which i do want to talk about fatness uh speaking as i am a expert
01:42:25.560witness on the subject i do want to talk about that but uh not much on the looks front to be
01:42:30.940fair i think i'm like average maybe a bit below average looking if i lost weight i think i could
01:42:35.400get to like solid 5.5 you know yeah maybe work on the skin clarity um but beyond just looks and i
01:42:43.180think women looks are important but i think there's ways men can bolster their attraction
01:42:49.060to women in ways beyond just looks is that the way you kind of like um allow yourself to take
01:42:55.300that into consideration so you don't like hurt and cry yourself to sleep at night
01:42:59.300sorry what repeat that i said is that a way you kind of take that in
01:43:04.440and allow yourself to not um cry yourself to sleep every night what do you mean by being
01:43:09.460self-aware that i'm chubby yeah to say like yeah make sure it's not like a coping mechanism so
01:43:14.500how's it how's it cope if i'm self-aware same like saying like you're like slightly chubby and like
01:43:20.160it's my skincare that doesn't get me get girls it's not my personality it's not the way that i
01:43:25.180approach women it's just my looks and you know no you add the question you asked was you're
01:43:30.460completely off topic the question you asked was what do i bring to the table and i was so one of
01:43:35.260the ways that people can bring something to the table is looks, but I'm affirmatively making the
01:43:39.500claim that it ain't my looks. So like, I don't know if you're, there's no cope occurring.
01:43:45.260You're talking elsewhere about not about looks then. No, no. What I'm saying is I'm like laying
01:43:49.720out, like there, there are some perhaps, uh, I was laying out like the benefits, uh, looks wise
01:43:57.960that I minimally provide, which is I am, I am on the taller side, uh, blue eyes, which is typically
01:44:03.260preferential. And dark hair, that's sort of like the preferred phenotype. But moving aside from
01:44:08.780that, my looks are really not doing the heavy lifting here. So I would say there's a couple
01:44:13.400things. On the topic of money, for example, I think women are typically looking for men to be0.51
01:44:18.940providers. If a woman is, I would say I lean more on the traditional side. I think women who want a1.00
01:44:25.420more traditional dynamic, they would get that with me. I'm going to be taking care of everything.0.54
01:44:30.980The woman, whoever I'm going to be with long-term, is never going to have to have a job.0.99
01:44:59.820I think in other dimensions, I'm not a drug addict, I don't do drugs, I don't smoke, I don't drink, unless somebody pops a ball of champagne.
01:45:12.040Well, so, it depends what we mean.1.00
01:45:14.960So, I think a lot of women, so I agree with you, I think that sobriety ought to be a baseline.0.98
01:45:20.120But how many people have drinking problems, how many people have drug problems?
01:45:24.140If it is the case that, say, women are encountering when they're dating, say 50% of men either have a drinking problem, a drug problem, they smoke cigarettes, maybe we can collapse all those into one thing, like people who use substances.
01:45:37.940I don't know what the percentage is, but I think it might be the majority of men, maybe not alcoholics, but perhaps men who drink more than they ought to.
01:45:51.400Now, this might not be a big value proposition for a woman who drinks alcohol, but for a woman who doesn't drink alcohol, who also is more.
01:45:58.960And when I say sober, it's not like I used to be an alcoholic.
01:46:01.900I've never been interested in drugs, never had a drug problem, never did drugs.
01:46:06.580Smoked weed a couple times in high school, but it's been a long time.
01:54:24.820I'm trying to think if there's anything else.
01:54:28.040Overall, though, I think I have, aside from sometimes I am self-aware to a degree, I sometimes get frustrated easily and can at moments have a temper, although that's mostly related to the show, not so much when I'm in a relationship.
01:54:43.580I'm actually, although I'm quite high conflict on the show, I'm actually in relationships, quite low conflict.
01:54:52.020I'm very, I don't want to like argue with my girlfriend.
01:54:55.240And I'm in relationships like most of most of the long term relationships I've had have been very low conflict or no conflict, very minimal disputes or arguments.
02:03:05.280So your dating pool is secluded to a certain time.
02:03:09.520Well, let me finish the thought there.
02:03:10.940I mean, I think that, you know, there are many fish in the pond.
02:03:15.680So this idea, like there's a lot of beautiful women and not all of those beautiful women, but a good amount of them are going to have a strong alignment or close alignment with my perspective.0.97
02:03:32.460And I would choose from that pool of women.0.93
02:03:35.600I don't feel like it's not some situation where, well, only the liberal women are really hot and all the like more conservative or trad women are just ugly.0.98
02:03:48.920Now, if somebody has, like, if perhaps somebody can, like, but I guess to get to the center of it, if she's a liberal feminist, no, like, yeah, she's good looking.0.99
02:07:59.040And definitely when it comes to dating, things like that, you might change some ideas that you have now in 10 years.
02:08:05.940It seems like there's a 10-year turnaround for these type of things.
02:08:09.060You could slightly adjust certain opinions, but not definitely completely change.
02:08:12.960I mean, your dating pool reduces by 40.
02:08:14.820So, you know, you have to be more inclusive to what you have around you.
02:08:18.940So if your standards are exclusively high, you have to kind of lower the bar to be able to actually have a partner or be able to have somebody that you'd connect with by the age of 50.
02:08:47.260She was saying that, you know, as you get older, and it is true, as you get older, your dating prospects, your dating pool does tend to shrink.
02:08:56.400The quality of your potential partners tends to decrease over time.
02:09:01.520There is some discrepancy between men and women on this, a little bit, but yes, over time, you know, if you're a man at 50 and you're a woman at 50, like, it just gets, like, even in my 30s.
02:09:16.320like yes the dating pool like of the people kind of in your age group for women like the the the
02:09:23.420the keepers got kept so yeah like getting into your 30s gets a little harder getting into your
02:09:29.56040s gets a little harder as you get older yes so that is the case um your sexual market value
02:40:12.820There's been a lot of crosstalk tonight
02:40:15.140And the audience is not appreciating it
02:40:18.280so I'm echoing their frustrations due to all the crosstalk please if it is not material
02:40:25.020important to the conversation keep it to yourself be quiet one person speaking at a time
02:40:32.460go ahead oh why I posted that story not why you posted it but there's a couple things to
02:40:40.080I guess dive into there yeah so you're doing a this is a sort of typical I don't know what the1.00
02:40:45.980right term is if it's a passive aggressive thing where women do when they get uh i guess1.00
02:40:51.760called out on something uh where they will walk back their position because they're not prepared1.00
02:40:59.100to actually make a defense oh i didn't mean to say that i didn't mean to say that about you i
02:41:03.260wasn't talking about you so pull it back up again so we can have the have the record show most
02:41:09.280infamous incel podcast ever now you didn't write that i'm going on the perhaps the most infamous
02:41:15.200podcast with an incel audience incel podcast would suggest that the podcast itself uh is incel not
02:41:23.080just the audience uh viewers or the members or whatever uh so there's two claims there that it's
02:41:28.840infamous and then it's uh incel well i'm not going to even going to really dispute you on the infamy
02:41:34.960part uh i might just be willing to grant that the podcast is controversial i don't step away from
02:41:41.380that. But where I would like to engage you on is the incel part. So what does incel mean?
02:41:47.620So it initially started as a term for involuntarily celibate, but it's kind of
02:41:53.000evolved into its own word to describe, I feel like mostly frustrated men online who attack women.
02:42:00.360So, okay. But you do acknowledge that the origination of the term and like words do
02:42:06.340have meanings. So can I ask you a question? I'm not going to say it just because of YouTube TOS.
02:42:11.380Um, would you make this same defense? So, um, are you familiar with the F slur as it relates to
02:42:17.020gay people? Yeah. So you would agree that this, in the same way people use incel, they oftentimes
02:42:22.160use it not to actually describe somebody who's involuntarily celibate, but somebody who you
02:42:27.360disagree with or you dislike that guy's an incel. I don't like him. Right. So you must certainly be0.72
02:42:33.180fine with people using the F slur, uh, to call, you know, when people use the F slur, it's not to0.98
02:42:39.780actually be homophobic it's simply to call someone stupid right and you're fine with that0.98
02:42:44.000I do you want to say the word do you want to say the f-slur well I think you would get banned right1.00
02:42:49.600now but are you fine are you fine with the f-slur I don't say that word but are you fine with the1.00
02:42:54.400f-slur if it's not towards like a gay person in a derogatory way then yeah like it's fine like0.98
02:43:00.960people use it in conversation just like they say the r-word nowadays like yeah okay so when you say
02:43:06.200that the podcast is incel what are you trying to communicate i am well number one i post a lot of
02:43:14.940loaded things on tiktok on instagram because it gets engagement and it's kind of like satire i'm
02:43:21.400over exaggerating yes i understand that like you want to there's like hyperbole and you want to
02:43:26.640okay i get that the hyperbole is that i think a lot of especially on instagram a lot of people
02:43:32.200that know me like i was invited on this podcast very long ago and people are like don't go on it
02:43:37.060don't go on it it's bad for your image it's kind of a hyperbole i guess almost to defend myself
02:43:42.720for going on this podcast to be completely honest this seems like a bit of a mott and bailey where
02:43:48.300it's forward an argument that is more objectionable and then retreat back to a more defensible position
02:43:58.000So in this case, you're saying, well, it was hyperbole.
02:44:00.840Well, it was just for the rage baiting.
02:44:02.860Well, when I say incel, it's just something I disagree with or that is speaking about men who are just sort of generally frustrated with dating and not necessarily about like true incels who are like actually involuntarily celibate.
02:44:16.720So I can really only engage with you on like what words actually mean.
02:44:21.360So from my perspective, I am aware that people use incel as a sort of, they don't use it.
02:44:28.520I'm aware that they use it incorrectly.
02:44:31.640But incel to me has an actual definition, which means like somebody who's involuntarily celibate and who like typically struggles severely with dating.0.75
02:44:41.100And these are almost, women can't be incel.0.53
02:49:06.100I think some people would, a lot of people would perceive it.
02:49:08.400A lot of the people that I, for example, went to college with, like, I went to college in Vermont, very, very liberal state, they would perceive you as a misogynist, a thousand percent.
02:49:16.220Me, I've been living in Texas for a while, I can understand some of your takes, but just, like...
02:49:21.100so what what would be misogynistic um traditional values traditional viewpoints
02:49:26.860your conservative views why is that misogynistic hold on i'm not saying it is i'm just saying
02:49:31.080people will perceive it that way they do perceive you like that in texas like bad
02:49:34.660i mean texas is very conservative yeah no it's more like uh are you the representative of all
02:49:41.280people yes yes i'm texas they sent me texas took a poll and they voted me as you did the door to
02:49:49.940door well so i'm more interested in not so much labels but what has earned the label so i'm looking
02:49:56.580for what are my positions or what have i said that is misogynistic but before we do that
02:50:03.560we need to be precise about our definitions what is a misogynist somebody who is bigoted against
02:50:11.860women okay so how about this uh someone who either hates women or who has prejudice i think
02:50:18.140towards women yeah but it could also just be hate yeah it could be hate right yeah okay what is your
02:50:23.440prejudice brian what's that what is your prejudice against women the what what is your hate towards
02:50:29.360women because then that's you would have to hate on something i don't hate women but i'm asking for
02:50:33.980for what what are the misogynistic takes that i have i haven't watched much of your but you said
02:50:42.680the traditional what yeah like traditional values um i think that i don't perceive it this way but
02:50:51.480like i know this podcast has had a lot of takes and kind of like degradation of girls in the like
02:50:57.240sex work industry and like i think people perceive that as misogynistic um i'm like blanking do you
02:51:07.480think women should have the right to vote that's a good question yeah sure yeah yeah well hold on
02:51:13.800let's before i answer that question i want to get a further list so you said degradation of sex
02:51:18.820workers yeah yeah uh anything else i guess like the the jokes about like not being able to vote
02:51:23.760the jokes about like i don't make those jokes hey you did you made one earlier that was a comparison
02:51:27.740it wasn't really a joke and like oh i don't listen to women speak like that one you said women shouldn't
02:51:32.440be able to vote i don't think that was no i think you just made a comparison it was like when did
02:51:36.800they say that hypothetical give me the context what was the context i don't remember the context1.00
02:51:41.540i just know this is the gaslighting women do you're completely misremembering0.80
02:51:46.400what you said is if you take no stop stop i got it i asked you were saying something along the0.61
02:51:56.100lines of when we were talking about traditional gender roles and men paying for dates i asked
02:52:00.840you the question if women should be able to vote that isn't a prescriptive claim that's not true
02:52:07.200that's literally you want to you can play what did i say what did i say you tell me what i said1.00
02:52:11.800you said women shouldn't be able to vote you're fucking retarded that's not fucking true that's1.00
02:52:15.920not true i never said that i never said women no i didn't say how much cash do you have on you1.00
02:52:21.520let's fucking bet i don't have any cash on me but i would bet you how much thousand dollars0.91
02:54:51.700okay congratulations back to this what are the misogynistic things that i believe or say
02:54:58.460okay i think that this is really rooted from my viral tiktoks that you took several months ago
02:55:04.740and you posted on twitter and they're absolutely viral and it wasn't you but your audience
02:55:09.380commented some of the most misogynistic things i've ever heard in my life what was the tiktok
02:55:14.000um the first one was like i was like oh like i was at the grocery store and i looked a guy up
02:55:19.520and down and he like looked like he was scared we will play the tip but so i would love to see it
02:55:23.800but so you have to understand the x algorithm i had like i don't know if i posted on my main
02:55:29.220thing or my like brian atlas probably at the time i had like 20 000 followers when you get in the x
02:55:37.560algorithm the majority of people who see that aren't even following you so it's not my audience
02:55:43.680but in any case you'd have to actually present like some sort of evidence like i i completely
02:55:49.160contest this idea that like my audience is just a bunch of incels like how can you actually where
02:55:54.720is the proof for that where's the evidence the comments on that video and the hinge video but
02:55:59.520okay so andrew would you agree that andrew tate has made misogynistic comments okay but hold on
02:56:04.500so andrew tate full-on misogynist right and he he's made similar comments to the people that
02:56:08.720leave comments on my videos do you think andrew tate has difficulty getting laid
02:56:12.500but he's a different tier to you right but the idea that if you leave negative comment that that
02:56:18.960somehow means that you are thus incapable like if you leave a misogynistic comment you must be an
02:56:23.740incel no like actually the reality is it's the playboys who probably have like the more
02:56:27.920objectionable perspectives on women than the guys who like you know kind of struggle a bit to date
02:56:33.120all the way to incels but anyways what about me though what about me is misogynistic or what i've
02:56:38.920said that's misogynistic i'm not saying that i think you're misogynistic i just think given
02:56:44.640the audience that you have people perceive you that way people perceive you that way because of
02:56:50.720my audience who they don't know anything about and they don't but like for example when i saw
02:56:54.760those comments and i didn't know that the x algorithm works that way that like that was so
02:56:59.520bad that was so bad so well yeah i mean comments on that well i i don't think it was actually that
02:57:06.100bad but on x especially twitter is pretty toxic i'll give you that but you can go on any social
02:57:11.580media platform you could play video you could be a video game streamer you could be a woman who
02:57:16.180makes like does makeup tutorials you're gonna get bad comments like this is this has been known
02:57:21.320about youtube for a really long time the comment section is bad like the comment sections are bad
02:57:27.220personally i don't even think my comment section is all that bad though to be honest but maybe i'm
02:57:31.980just i've been doing youtube since 2012 i mean maybe i'm just i have thick skin i don't know
02:57:38.180but ultimately um comments really aren't all that bad and that's that's the internet landscape
02:57:45.260like you probably do some video about i don't know whatever something totally benign that's
02:57:50.660inoffensive and it's like neutral and you probably get nasty comments on stuff where you're talking0.95
02:57:58.340about i don't know fucking disney or some shit can we for a minute go back to the andrew tate0.86
02:58:02.800conversation because it's very surprising to me that the two of you who are in marketing in one0.98
02:58:08.000way or the other do you think andrew tate is famous because he really thinks what he says or
02:58:13.920do you think he's famous because he says what he says for a shock he's famous because he's a rage
02:58:19.380beta that's it great so that's that so you just this chavez donated 200 stop confusing misogyny
02:58:27.580with patriarchy brian asks the right questions the guests just can't handle the truth so they
02:58:34.560resort to gaslighting and word games you're so right oh my god you're so facts uh okay here
02:58:41.360let's go to this um okay so there was a couple claims that i heard uh the the trad perspective
02:58:47.900is misogynistic i'm not saying that i'm saying people no that's what you said though no no no
02:58:52.120i said i was very clear people perceive that as misogynistic do you do you think it's misogynistic
02:58:57.080i specifically said i don't think that that's perspectives yeah i was very clear about that
02:59:01.560i don't know if you guys oh no you've been saying that it's so okay um there was something about the
02:59:09.440degradation supposedly of the sex workers that's misogynistic
02:59:14.720again i think people perceive it as misogynistic i do what so if i say
02:59:22.340sex work is bad is that misogynistic i think
02:59:27.660i i close doors i do think that sex work is is bad but i also think like a lot of the girls that
02:59:36.000come on this podcast that are on of they're not even it's not even the same thing as like what
02:59:40.200the porn industry was right it's like it's an entirely different thing now than it was before
02:59:46.260I don't know if you guys know this but people just like sell like half nude pictures on OnlyFans
02:59:50.280sometimes just like bikini pictures right but they don't get paid as much though it's also men
02:59:54.940on there though it's not just women yes we should also criticize the men who who enable this thing
03:00:02.240to be however uh I think the criticism can be laid at the feet of both men and women
03:00:07.560the consumers and the producers yeah yeah it wouldn't be misogynistic to be anti-sex work
03:00:14.500that's not misogynistic yeah because there's male sex workers in the industry right yeah you'd
03:00:20.500probably most people who are like against sex work are probably like across the board but look also
03:00:26.000the majority of sex workers are women um but i don't think it's misogynistic to be anti-sex work
03:00:31.840um that's just your preference sex work when i tell people when i told people that i know i told
03:00:39.840a lot of people oh i'm going on this podcast yeah they're like that's the insult misogynist
03:00:43.580podcast like that's what people perceive it as so that's why i said that because it's like a joke
03:00:47.640it's like i'm repeating back what people said to me but that's that's people's perception of this
03:00:53.020i'm not saying that it's necessarily true perceptions be incorrect yeah and like now
03:00:57.460that i'm on here i'm like this is a lot like less extreme than i thought it was going to be
03:01:01.680it's biased yeah okay uh so i mean again though i still haven't quite arrived at anything on the
03:01:10.420misogyny thing something somebody brought something up a bit ago oh women voting i think
03:01:15.040you're you're kind of like deriving a false like i kind of explained exactly what my point was with
03:01:19.340this story and and you're like turning it into something else like i never said that0.70
03:01:22.520you're misogynistic i'm not calling you misogynistic well misogynistic podcast0.53
03:01:27.100owner host i didn't say i said incel podcast oh excuse me well you said incels are misogynist0.89
03:01:34.980i mean i said you're misogynistic but you're you're going on okay so okay then moving off of0.53
03:01:40.160you why am i a misogynist or misogynistic i actually i really don't think you're misogynistic
03:01:44.840i think you're perceived as a misogynist because of your views and like your questions i'm perceived
03:01:50.580yeah you are perceived as a misogynist but you are perceived that when someone is easily biased
03:01:55.240or just like enraged your questions can be extremely triggering and i think that like
03:02:01.000they target you as someone that they could take that rage out on because you ask the questions
03:02:05.720about the patriarchy or like um they take it as if you're supporting those views rather than
03:02:11.860asking okay well i'll quickly address the voting rights thing uh so here's my position on voting
03:02:19.740rights so and it's nuanced it's not just completely like it's not white or black so the
03:02:27.320current status quo is that women have the right to vote without any duty to the united states
03:02:32.480they don't have any duty and you see this not just in the united states but in other countries too
03:02:36.740women don't have any responsibilities that can be mandated by the government and so i believe women0.93
03:02:44.060should be able to maintain the right to vote, but we need to, and this could be either employed
03:02:50.040in a completely equal way, which I don't think pragmatically would work, or it could be implemented
03:02:55.340in an equitable way, which still would benefit women. It would be having women in a privileged0.73
03:03:03.040position. So when it comes to military conscription, men have a duty to the United States.0.60
03:03:08.560men can be conscripted. There's the draft, right? Whereas women have no such duty. In order for men
03:03:16.820to be able to vote, they are subject to military conscription. And so for this reason, my current
03:03:23.920position is, I'm not saying we should get rid of women's right to vote. I'm saying there needs to
03:03:29.500be an equality that is created so that um that that kind of brings men and women uh either0.90
03:03:38.540equitably or equally at the same place so equality would dictate that women have to be drafted in the0.55
03:03:45.920military or at least subject to it and also technically they have to be not just to the
03:03:52.820military but they can also face frontline combat now i disagree with that well hold on
03:03:58.440Hold on. However, practically speaking, when it comes to the lethality of the military, which is the sort of purpose of the military, that's the telos of the military, to be lethal, like to be effective, women in combat positions are very much ineffective.1.00
03:04:16.820So how do we balance equality between men and women, but also balancing the biological reality that women don't have the same capacity, generally speaking, as men, to be as effective soldiers?0.67
03:04:36.660We can't use equality because we are two different beings, and you can't put a man and a woman together and try and make them equal physically.
03:22:44.180But there is a degree if you're trying to, like, restrain somebody, you're going to have to use a level of force that might result in, like, an injury to them.
03:22:51.040So he should restrain her, then knuckle punch her.
03:41:06.940Yeah. So just because certain ICE officers have either through provocation, a lot of these instances aren't just like, hmm, I'm just going to go like police brutality somebody today.
03:41:17.740There's like mass amounts of like political push. There's people in the streets rioting. They are provocateurs.
03:41:24.640Now, look, even if you're being provoked, the police have a duty to like still not like infringe upon anybody.
03:41:31.040But again, if there is instances where these ICE officers are engaging in misconduct or brutality, they should be penalized, they should be fired, and if it gets into the realm of it's so bad that it's criminal, then they should be prosecuted.
03:41:48.280However, the central mission of ICE is to enforce the immigration laws in the United States and generally to deport genuine illegal immigrants.
03:41:59.620So I don't think we can map on the bad behavior of some ICE officers on all enforcement officers.
03:42:06.740I'm happy to stand by you and rebuke ICE officers who are acting inappropriately.
03:42:13.820They should be in trouble, they should be fired, in some cases criminally prosecuted, if it reaches into that level of a criminal act, right?
03:42:26.580We definitely can't dismantle the mechanism by which we deport people.
03:42:32.120and also like the the protesters are creating a what's the best way to frame this the protesters
03:42:42.060are creating a landscape which has the temperature really high and it's like you also have to realize
03:42:50.700um i don't know if you've ever do you ever watch body cam videos of like not ice but like police
03:42:55.380police arresting people like i've seen i saw this video the other day a police officer pulled over
03:43:01.260a black woman and he gave her 50 warnings to step out of the car before and she was just being like
03:43:07.540incoherent and like arguing and just completely um unhinged basically and before he ever laid0.90
03:43:16.000hands on her he gave her fifth something like 50 uh lawful commands turn your car off she like
03:43:22.640initially she like he pulled her over he stopped her and then she actually sped away he got in his
03:43:27.640car chased her down again he and legally a officer can ask you to step out of the vehicle that's
03:43:34.120that's lawful she refused to do it uh and then he had to eventually after 50 warnings after being
03:43:40.860very patient they tased her they had to try to pull her out she wasn't complying she was being
03:43:45.960completely erratic so it's like in any sort of law enforcement situation people are not acting
03:43:52.500rationally they're very emotional they realistically if an officer uh is detaining you
03:43:59.360you're not going to be able to verbally convince them out of it maybe they're wrong and maybe you
03:44:04.800can pursue that in the court system but if an officer says you're detained enough if an officer
03:44:09.880says you're under arrest it's a like you can beat the rap but you can't beat the ride you're getting
03:44:17.780arrested you might you may as well comply and in this case uh you you have people like and by the0.69
03:44:25.120way we gave warning to all these illegal immigrants trump's coming into office voluntarily deport0.70
03:44:31.660so how do we if people won't voluntarily do it and they don't want to leave you would agree
03:44:39.260like if somebody is running away from a police officer should the police and they've committed
03:44:44.020the crime should the police officer be like well he wasn't compliant with my attempt to arrest him
03:44:49.900i'm just going to let him go or does that necessitate an escalation in force in order to
03:44:57.000facilitate an arrest yes i i do agree and i i think that ice officers should be held to the
03:45:04.580same standards that normal policemen are held to they are which hasn't really been showing itself
03:45:11.360um i i was talking to my dad about this and you can fact check this i'm not sure if it's 100 true
03:45:16.260but he told me that like if an illegal immigrant is charged with like a very minor crime or like
03:45:23.100they don't really commit the crime but the cops are called on them they like don't get deported
03:45:27.460from that like that's not like if they like they just don't provide documentation or they don't
03:45:33.100ask for documentation like that and like that's that would be a great way to start deporting
03:45:37.920people that deserve to be deported right if the cops are called on them for domestic violence or
03:45:42.500for a traffic violation they should have to provide documentation now you're getting rid of people that
03:45:47.080deserve to be i guess deported first at least and then i mean i don't disagree if if regular
03:45:54.120police officers through the course of you know investigating a given crime this person happens0.78
03:46:00.500to be an illegal immigrant uh i mean yes why not but i don't know how that's isn't that not1.00
03:46:07.800Letting them get off easy if they just go back to their country0.83
03:46:43.980I don't agree with separating families.
03:46:45.460And also in recent events, I just read an article that was talking about how they deport them to not even their hometown, to their home country.
03:47:51.640So this technically would fall under the criteria of ripping the family apart.
03:47:55.920So what do we mean, really, when we're talking about separating families?
03:47:59.540If there's a member of a family who's a legal citizen and they would not be subject to deportation, perhaps they can, if their entire family is going back to Mexico, perhaps they can voluntarily go back to Mexico to be with their deported family.
03:48:12.100But this idea that, wow, we're separating families.
03:48:17.040If you're an illegal immigrant here in the United States, like I don't get it.
03:48:23.040If I go to Japan, and I knock up a big titty, big labia Japanese chick, and I have a kid with her, and I stay there illegally in Japan, that's my family right, do you object to Japan deporting me?1.00
03:48:39.860If you have a family member, isn't it?1.00
03:49:06.220Yes, you're completely 100% right about the Obama ministry was starting with the ICE, having the cages.
03:49:11.140It doesn't mean it disappeared, first of all.
03:49:13.320Second of all, I'm obviously talking about the children that are here.
03:49:18.000When they're born here, they're citizens, right?
03:49:19.500Wait, wait, wait. So where do we put, so, okay, you do realize when you get arrested for a crime, you are put in jail. And that is, there are bars. It is a jail. It is a cage.
03:51:13.020If that is in fact happening, I think perhaps there are instances of it.0.68
03:51:17.180Of the hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions of deportations that do occur, they are sending the people, 99.99% of them, they are being sent to their country of origin.
03:51:27.060So we're resorting to this appeal to an extreme thing here.
03:51:31.360But question for you, if I can point you to an illegal immigrant who, let's say he has no family here, so he's not being ripped from his family, and he's being deported.
05:18:47.600Thank you. Thank you for sending in those messages. So real quick reminder, guys, $10 display, $100 read, $200 TTS going around the table. What is the minimum in, excuse me, what is the minimum yearly income to be your future husband?
05:19:06.000i don't i've never thought of that before honestly i want to like if i'm dating now like i want a guy
05:19:13.080who's ambitious but like i'm young if i'm dating someone my age like like i'm ambitious so like
05:19:17.760if he plans to be successful if he's showing signs of that then i'd go out with him even if
05:19:21.480he's kind of broke okay as long as he can pay for a date i mean so would you would you date a guy
05:19:27.000who makes less than six figures and my mind you this is uh perhaps now you're you're 22 right i
05:19:33.520I mean, when you're a bit younger, it's typically less of – can be less of a concern, especially if you're in college or, like, college age.
05:19:42.860You're probably prioritizing, is he fun?
07:02:48.620Well, I was going to say that, of course, slavery was very much wrong.
07:02:53.820I would say, though, that if we're doing a comparison of the treatment of African-American slaves in the United States and compared them to slaves in, like, North Africa or, like, the inter-African slave trade.0.76
07:03:09.880so like whereas africans enslaving other africans those were way more fucking brutal whereas like
07:03:17.780look you can't there's obviously massive criticisms for slavery in the united states don't get me
07:03:22.400wrong but the comparative treatment of african-american slaves in the united states
07:03:27.380not saying it's justified slavery is wrong it's much better got a caveat it their treatment
07:03:33.320comparatively was better as compared to like white slaves in north africa there that were abducted
07:03:39.420um white slaves that were uh you know by the uh i don't know if it was the ottomans or the0.85
07:03:45.440various like muslim nations um who created slavery the entire world so so hold on so you0.83
07:03:57.000you can find slavery in that has existed in every single nation yes uh it's it's existed
07:04:06.400across cultures it's not just white people who created slavery i don't know what do you mean
07:04:10.960created slavery what does that do you think do you think back 2 000 years ago uh people that
07:04:17.680lived in europe were like sending text messages to people in asia like yo you gotta try this dope0.99
07:04:23.300shit bro let me put you on some games some you chinese people uh check this out you can enslave0.99
07:04:29.400people yo or is slavery something that can uniquely manifest in pretty much any situation1.00
07:04:37.300you think slavery ended there's literally human trafficking still i'm not saying that's human
07:04:41.500trafficking i'm not saying white people in slavery i'm not but you you asked me who invented slavery
07:04:47.140slavery is not necessarily something that is invented it is in the same like who invented war
07:37:16.140Well not like you don't say it in an0.93
07:37:19.100Insulting way like your house is dirty
07:37:21.540you say excuse me sir is there anything i can do to help you while i'm here1.00
07:37:26.300i think a woman does that you're gonna get the ring because i did actually not after one time
07:37:33.800that's crazy i did a guy's laundry and i like helped him clean his house and he got like weirded
07:37:38.180out he said i was overstepping well also also i think like that you don't want that little boy
07:37:43.760you go to her house i think you should help like fix like i don't know put up put up the0.56
07:37:47.820i suppose if she's she asks that yeah that could be done but um maybe like maybe after we have sex
07:37:59.700then we can do it but um i i do think yeah the woman should come over and just you know i think1.00
07:38:05.900she should offer offer to do it she should offer to do the laundry maybe she could clean i could
07:38:12.540stand behind that if the man is willing to do the same things like he's like what is it like fixing
07:38:15.960the car or something like when it comes to me like I've never had to worry about my car my
07:38:19.660fiance took care of it so likewise like I am grateful for that so I'm taking care of the house
07:38:24.280if you need help with something before we live together like yeah I'm more than happy to help
07:38:27.520him clean if he's not able to get to it because he's yeah once you're in a long-term relationship
07:38:30.660that's different but not like okay I'm coming up yeah I'm just coming over this first time
07:38:34.060let me do your laundry dates though like or even like the first month I don't think Brian words it
07:38:39.060in a funny way as well but there is nothing weird if you go to somebody's house and you just see
07:38:45.500that maybe it's not so clean and you just say hey do you need help with anything yeah no because
07:38:49.500then he expects you to do it expects you to do it all the time yes i do expect her to do it
07:38:55.180all the time if we're married or if we're in a relationship yes i would do it to pay for dates
07:39:00.200all the time i mean in the beginning but eventually i'll pay in the beginning you know even doing the
07:39:04.820laundry the washing machine all the time all the time if i'm actively pursuing him i think i would
07:39:10.680do it all the time because i'm trying to like a dating is like a tryout and beginning is like
07:39:14.780the tryout for like you know getting the ring getting married so if i'm showing that i'm wife
07:39:18.560material like once wife is always wife until you're married you know what i mean like you're1.00
07:39:21.960a wife before you're married this is what you gain yes exactly i agree i think a lot of women
07:39:26.220hear me say this and they think it's kind of ridiculous and there's an apprehension it's like
07:39:30.480i just met this guy why would i do that and look maybe you're right maybe that's a lot maybe that's
07:39:35.480from in the current social climate that is a lot maybe it's never even been done before in the past
07:39:40.340maybe that's even like a long time ago that would have been crazy that's not how traditional courtship
07:39:45.680goes but today when there can be scenarios and often are scenarios where it's like well she's0.98
07:39:52.100going to come over to my house and i'm going to fuck her why not take it a step i mean i'm the1.00
07:39:57.980wholesome guy over here like girls will go over to a guy's house for a second third date suck their1.00
07:40:03.740dick let the guy come in the back of her throat let let the guy come on her body on her face1.00
07:40:10.840inside of her and it's like am i really the bad guy here because i want a girl to do my laundry1.00
07:40:17.860but the other guy has i mean i do want to fuck too but am i the bad guy here because i wanted0.99
07:40:24.260her to do my laundry but like men also have an expectation like other men have an expectation0.99
07:40:28.840of like wanting to be balls deep inside of you like i don't know you know what i mean it's not
07:40:33.260Brian I think some women would look at it differently if you would have said it all together with what you said at the beginning that what you bring to the table because I think it's brilliant what you bring to the table in today's climate so I think if you put it together with I bring this to the table and I expect that this is normal I think women would just probably take it differently but they are forgetting the you know is the selective hearing part they are just hearing you just want to do the laundry and that's not the case because you actually are offering so much more than any guy
07:41:02.860in today's day and age yeah that's a fair point that you bring up and i i think that um if i could0.99
07:41:09.200give you women game and you again you might think it's fucking stupid try it though just be like go1.00
07:41:14.760over to the guy's house and look hey maybe it backfires like it did for greta or whatever0.99
07:41:18.240try it try it and look maybe some guys are like whoa this is weird but like they're not they're
07:41:25.360not there yet they're not there yet uh i think a guy i think a guy you do it for a guy and he might
07:41:32.940he might view you instead of just like uh i mean especially if he's a really attractive guy and he1.00
07:41:39.060has a lot of options it goes beyond just okay well i wanted to fuck her but now she's wife material0.97
07:41:45.380i've like read differently like i've read about the psychology of this like there's this book1.00
07:41:50.640called like why men love bitches oh you're thinking of mothering bullshit it's bullshit0.98
07:41:55.380because every time i start to like a guy and i start to do nice things for him and show more1.00
07:42:00.260interest he stops liking me because the chase is over right the courting is over that's like a boy
07:42:05.760i feel like yeah you don't want that guy that's going back to the same point but i think i read
07:42:09.740that book as well and that book was focusing massively on um mothering right so in the book