Brian KICKS OUT Feral Girl?! She Called Him An lNCEL?! VIRAL TikTok Girl BTFO?! | Dating Talk 291
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Summary
In this episode of the Whatever Dating Talk podcast, we introduce ourselves and give you a brief overview of who we are, what we do, and what we are looking for in a potential partner. We hope that you enjoy this episode and that you can learn something from it.
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Welcome to the Whatever Dating Talk podcast, where we try to make sense of the modern dating
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hellscape. I'm your host, Brian Atlas. I am very sorry that we, this is perhaps one of the
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latest we've ever started. Sorry for the delay. Some people were running behind, so it necessitated
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us starting a bit late. We're going to just, because of the delay, we're going to just jump
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right into the introduction. So please go ahead and introduce yourselves. Yes, my name is Greta.
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I'm 22 years old. I live currently in Austin, Texas. I have a bachelor's degree in mathematics
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and I was working in tech sales, but right now I'm trying to pursue content full-time.
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All right, and so you were in college? Yeah, I graduated really early. I graduated when I was
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19. Okay, really quick one thing for the viewers. For the viewers, were you guys able to hear her
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okay? We're going with it. Her mic's a little low. I'm assuming you guys could hear her just
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fine but in the chat if you can send a message uh comparatively does her audio sound okay as
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you're listening to the subsequent people introducing themselves if not i will uh i'll
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adjust it but i'm sure i'm thinking the audio is probably just fine uh what about you my name is
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ivy i'm 27 i do only fans and i go to school for cyber security and i currently live in texas
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all right and uh cyber security are you getting your associates your bachelor's degree or
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i'm working on my associates right now okay got it and sorry you said you're from where again
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i'm from new mexico but i live in texas new mexico and you have some new mexico tattoos like on your
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arm yeah i have a zia symbol okay right here are you a native american or i'm indigenous
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So I'm part Native American, but I'm mostly Mesoamerican.
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I am 27 years old, currently living in Denver, but originally from Southern California, where
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I do bottle service and I'm a mixed martial artist.
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I have a real estate license, but that's about it.
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So, you train jiu-jitsu, you train kickboxing, Muay Thai, or?
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All of it. So, I have a pretty proficient background in grappling and jiu-jitsu.
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I competed a little bit in kickboxing, and we're working on an MMA debut this year.
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No, we had a few fights pull out, so we're still working on a date and a matchup.
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Okay, all right. What belt are you in jiu-jitsu?
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My name is Zarina Dreams, and I'm from mainly Hong Kong and the U.S., and my business.
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Well, I have Zarina Nation and ZarinaDreams.com, which I'm working on doing some more adult
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entertainment and some more projects like that, and I also own a few businesses.
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I hold my Ph.D. in intercultural communication and have my master's also.
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in the path. I'm starting to push, so. You're pushing. Okay, I'm going to write 64. Can we say
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72, then, and make it easy? If you want to be 72, you can identify. I guess anyone can identify.
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Hey, it's great being older and being part of history. People can identify. I identify as a
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black woman, so, yeah. So, sometimes a Chinese woman, too. Okay. So, you are in your occupation?
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occupation is uh entrepreneur is the easiest way to put it okay several businesses uh and but you've
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been involved in the adult industry is that correct um proud of it too and you you featured
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frequently on howard stern's show in the yes in the 90s and the 2000s is that correct yes yeah
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up to the 2000 when he changed his new studio hard and i used to work together on his tv show
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it's the caucus nine shout out to you guys been a long time missed those days it was great yeah
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okay the sally jesse raphael did a bunch of talk shows all that fun stuff yeah um and you also used
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to uh shoot porn is that correct i've done a few yes okay um when you say a few it's really
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interesting in the industry you think somebody that has done like all these different films i
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could be in 50 of them right now which i think i am but it's the same scenes over and over again
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throughout the years okay because being over 60 um you know it gives me a few decades to play with
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there and they're still coming out with new stuff okay all right are do you still shoot or no no
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you're retired i guess you could say or kind of kind of retired from it but i'll keep oh sorry
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i'll keep the door open uh a little bit but yeah kind of because my life's taking me on
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multiple different paths yeah okay got it what about you my name is alicia and i'm originally
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from london um but i'm between miami and london at the moment but i do travel marketing
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age i'm 25 any education college um yeah i went to college but i dropped out because
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i started to become really successful in travel marketing so there was not really a need for me
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to finish what is uh what is travel marketing do you is it like an affiliate sales or no no it's
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not it's not affiliate sales so it's sales that I make myself so I have my own agency and I target
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hotels like um Hilton Marriott Hyatt etc and what I do is I do um content marketing for them so I
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establish what type of content is worth putting ad spend behind so they before they actually put
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the um their ad uh what's it called their ad management behind the um meta ads that they're
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going to put forward to um you know like put their ads and all of that stuff yeah all right and uh
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we can detect a british accent where are you from in england london like i said london yeah did i
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miss that yeah yeah i did say i have a tendency to not be listening sometimes when women talk but
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um just kidding uh and uh i noticed you have a tattoo here are you uh are you muslim yeah so my
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dad's uh tunisian and dominican and my mom's irish so are you muslim i mean i'm agnostic muslim
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okay so you culturally and not not culturally spiritually i'd say muslim culturally i don't
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associate with that okay so from a religious perspective you are muslim yes the the cultural
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aspect i don't associate with that what are the cultural aspects of islam or that you don't
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associate with when people see like violence bombings um you know people tweet on x like
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attacks on uh you know religious aspects between like jews and you know islam and violence like
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i've mentioned i don't i don't condone violence in any form i don't condone um hating on other
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religions just based on what um what religion they identify with i'm just myself i preach peace
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and grace and spirituality i don't preach violence of any nature misogyny i'm not into that
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obviously there's stereotypes around Islam being misogynistic I don't identify with that
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and I'm just at peace with my religious aspects so I'm agnostic Muslim I'm not
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you know I don't believe it to the full extent but there are certain bits and pieces that I do
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identify with I'll just leave it there you adhere to the religious tenets of Islam but uh yeah you
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reject and I mean I don't know if it's fair to say that and maybe this isn't what you're
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suggesting or or alluding to uh obviously the majority of muslims are not violent
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but that was the first thing you had brought up saying that well you don't agree with the
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cultural aspects of islam now there are there are some islamic terrorists but i would say that
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uh the majority of people who are muslim or islam are not they're not violent no but it's
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propaganda that's pushed through the u.s media like cnn and fox news they push that violence
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against um that islam is pushing and obviously that's not the case but the propaganda that is
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pushed throughout the media obviously makes it seem that way when it's not so that's why i said
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hence the reason for me to be saying okay i don't identify with violence because when people think
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about islam automatically they assume islam is too with violence when that's not the case
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i don't know if that's my immediate uh impression when i think of islam i typically i'm not thinking
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that the people are Muslims are violent I mean do you think that's the impression people have
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though absolutely in the UK or in the US or both in the West both okay because the US is is more
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or less dictated by Israel rulings let's talk about Donald Trump and you know who he gets his
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orders from wink wink hint hint you know I'm saying like BB and all of that shit but he
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identifies islam and he pushes propaganda through the news outlets about violence and hamas and all
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of that stuff in palestine if you want to really get deep into it and obviously a lot of republicans
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and maga haters are gonna internalize that and think okay culturally islam is you know brutal
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and violent and misogynistic and they have so many other rebuttals that they just learn their
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information and their news outlets through tiktok and all this like dumb bullshit which is not true
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um but they can you know well i mean from a historical lens uh islam was uh certainly
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spread by the sword more so than other religions i mean that is true but when you look at it from
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different perspective like even when you look at it through like a catholic or you know protestant
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outlook through christianity that was still brutal it was still um there was blood still
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shed on its sword too obviously the main outlook of christianity and the main message is grace
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and you know protect and love thy neighbor and all of that obviously islam has a different
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message and they portray it differently but they still want to look after women in its own way but
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a lot of people bend the rules of islam just to make their personal beliefs acceptable so they
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can actually sleep at night and think okay like I'm doing a good I'm doing justice here when that's
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not the case and I don't agree with that all right what about you my name is Evelyn I'm 40 48 I just
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turned 48 I'm in sales I sell cosmetic dermatology services I've been in sales all my life for the
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most part over 25 years I'm a mother and I didn't go to college I've always hustled I've always been
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in sales, and I always did well with that. All right. And where do you live or where are you
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from? I'm originally Salvadorian, so I'm from El Salvador, and I came when I was really young,
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when I was three, and I live in Northridge, California. What's the guy, the current president
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of El Salvador, Bukele? Bukele. Bukele. Yeah, he's doing pretty good things over there,
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don't you think? Amazing things, yes. Yeah, some good things. All right. When did you move to the
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United States? When I was three. Three years old. Okay. And do you have citizenship now? Yes, I do.
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Both your parents are Al Salvadorian? Yes. Both of my parents are. Gotcha. They're both here.
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They're here too? They have citizenship or they're naturalized? Absolutely. They have that
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citizenship. What about you? Hi, I'm Delia. I'm 26. I live in Long Beach, originally from
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the IE, which is the Inland Empire, if you guys want from Cali. What else is there? I'm a live
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host for brands. I help sell their stuff online on TikTok. I'm also a marketing specialist as well
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as a communication specialist for Cal State Long Beach, which is also the school that I go to for
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my bachelor's at the moment. Okay. Could I have you just tilt your mic down just a teeny bit?
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And you said you go to Cal State Long Beach for what again?
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Ooh, it's kind of been pushed to the back burner right now,
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but Mondays I have my negotiation and bargaining class at 11.
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probably gonna miss that tomorrow sorry teach um and then I have um three other online classes
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for intercultural communications which is common apparently and then we also have my marketing
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class on Tuesdays uh four to seven that one is a shit show um and then I think there's one more
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wait I'm thinking of it yeah one more I don't know communications another communications class
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um all got a's and b's though so not too bad right and you're a junior senior i'm going to be a senior
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in the fall so yeah and did you just have uh are you on quarter semester semester so did you just
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get back from spring break yeah so you just took some tests you just took like maybe did an essay
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for example um yeah i actually did do like a thousand word essay for my communications class
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The essay was on the thought process on motivation
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and how it can affect when your cognitive processing is interrupted by distraction
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and what it does and the ways that you learn, take in information.
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we're all able to hold roughly six to nine schemas which is numbers if i gave you my phone
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number you guys would all be able to hold at least six of those numbers um that's the same
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thing with any kind of information if you were to give it to me i would only be able to hold it and
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that's the same thing when it comes to distractions with school distractions with school work
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relationships as well um and yeah i had to write about that okay all right what about you my name
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is v i'm 36 uh i'm originally from puerto rico i lived 12 years in phoenix and i just moved to
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south florida um i'm a college dropout i did finance for about 10 years with a lot of mortgages
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and now wow now i work concerts and events uh selling merchandise and carrying boxes around
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absolutely yeah and i'm a spiritual college you sorry did you say any college or yes i'm a college
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dropout i was going for physics and then i was like i hate this okay yeah all right what about
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you hi my name is karina i am originally from poland in eastern europe to specify that
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i spent a great deal of my life in united kingdom uh i did drop out of university as we say in uk
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but in here college i used to study economics however for the sake of my career and being
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relatively successful running a small marketing agency um that's been now going on for about six
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years uh i have dropped out and also i have recently wrote a book um on anti-feminism
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all right age age 28 28 all right uh welcome everybody uh we're gonna go around the table
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once more uh tell us your relationship status so are you single in a relationship situationship
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whatever uh if uh you are in a relationship how long have you been in that relationship
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and then if you're single how long have you been single my name oh i already said my name
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i am single i am like dating like people but i'm i'm single and i've pretty much been single for
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22 years i had a boyfriend in australia for like six months when i was living there but
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i don't really count that as like a real relationship not you were seeing him for six
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months yes yeah i feel like relationships are like years right no no okay then i guess it's
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It was a shorter relationship, but I think six months you could consider it a...
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Maybe they thought they were in a relationship, but you said you're dating people, plural,
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How many people are you dating? I'm probably like going on dates with about three people
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right now. And when you say you're going on dates with three people, these are ongoing. Is that
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correct? Yes. Okay. I'm not sleeping with anybody. Sure. Yeah. But you're going on dates. Yeah. Of
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the three that you're kind of actively dating at the same time. Yeah. What is the length of time
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that you've been spending time with them? Yeah. So one of the guys I'm going out with is a bit
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older he's almost 30 we've been going out for about two months now um and then i have been
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going out for like with like two weeks for two weeks with a guy who's at my age he's like 23
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and then um there's someone in la that i've just been talking to actually we haven't like met each
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other in person yet but he's 26 so you haven't met yet but you've been exchanging messages
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yeah yeah which one's your favorite 30 year old the older guy the two months yeah yeah uh how many
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and he lives in your city yeah he lives in Austin okay that makes things I assume a bit easier for
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you yeah uh how many individual dates or times you've hung out would you say you've uh at least
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10 at least 10 yeah and you haven't hooked up with him no okay uh is that bad no just uh usually
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people nowadays tend to you know second third date typically um he's actually like pretty
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religious he's muslim so that's why i'm like a bit like standoffish about it because i don't
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know you're apprehensive i'm apprehensive he hasn't really made moves so oh he hasn't made
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moves yeah yeah what about like a kiss or we kissed yeah kiss but not anything further really
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further yeah yeah yeah nothing further okay no uh are you religious no well like yes but i'm not
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part of an organized religion i'm very like spiritual kind of have my own like religious
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compass which is what which is i think that we're in a simulation and no like i'm being serious
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mpcs and i think that there are dimensions above ours where like religious entities live i think
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at the very top of this is god um the universe whatever you want to conceptualize it as but
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i guess you could kind of say it's agnostic but i i could dive into it but it's just like
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really complicated but i have like a whole like i have like docs written out about this
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okay so you you believe in god oh you've done shrooms yeah you've done a lot of drugs
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not drugs just shrooms i worked at a clinical psychedelic lab when i was in australia are
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there different kinds of shrooms or just mainly just psilocybin yeah there's anamita mushrooms but
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you take those in smaller doses so in terms of the drugs you've done it's just mushrooms
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you haven't done like lsd or um i don't know what the other ones are but yeah i've done
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wait wait sorry what yeah i've done lsd once twice once once not like not even a full tap just like
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a microdose and then when i was in college i smoked weed but i don't anymore you don't smoke
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anymore. You do take peptides though. I do take peptides. Yeah. What peptides do you take? I take
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and what do they do? Yes. I take the glow stack. Um, that is GHKCU, BPC-157 and TB-500. Uh, GHKCU
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increases collagen production. So it helps your skin. Um, and it just kind of like makes you
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glow more. It helps your hair grow. BPC-157 and TB-500 are both anti-inflammatory. They help a
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lot with gut health and, um, just like repair in the body. They reduce inflammation. Um, they can
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help with injuries and because they increase, uh, your body's repair, it can also help you build
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muscle, but not in a way that like increases your testosterone or growth hormone or anything like
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that. And then I also take melanotan, which just helps you tan a little bit more. I'm really pale
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kind of like you. And so in the sun I burn, I'm a bit paler than you, but, uh, yeah, yeah. Melanotan
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melanotin i've heard melatonin well melatonin's for sleep yeah yeah i've heard of melanotin
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maybe that's how you pronounce it i don't know you because anyways i say melanotin
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maybe there's a different one i'm not aware of but uh okay so you've been seeing this guy for
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10 weeks he's muslim i didn't finish the peptides that i'm on yeah you don't want to know glutathione
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i get the idea um i do later dating podcast i guess but uh i was just curious about it though
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but uh are well i guess really quick on the peptides aren't they like illegal no they're
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not illegal okay no i was actually in a wall street journal article about this because rfk
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is trying to get them like like like legalized legalized they're they're a gray market kind of
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substance yeah they're not outright banned but yeah regulated yeah okay uh so you've been you're
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dating three guys sort of, sort of concurrently, but in between those three guys, you're also going
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out on like individual dates with other men too. Like you were on a date last night. Yeah. Yeah.
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Yeah. And that didn't go well. Um, I, you posted, we'll play it later. Uh, we'll play it later,
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but you posted a video of you crying post date and, uh, yeah. Uh, so, uh, yeah. And sometimes
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to, to Dave's message to my producers, yeah, sometimes you can, uh, occasionally, like if
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we're too long on split, we can always go center for a little bit. Um, but, uh, okay. So you have
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you, how long have you been in LA? Just like two days, three days. Yeah. How many dates have you
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been on? Just one. Just with the one guy. Okay. But it didn't go well. It was just like a last
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minute thing. Cause I was supposed to hang out with the guy I was talking to for a while, but
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he put it on me. So then I was just like, this guy was in my DMs. He looked cute. He looked sweet.
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He asked me out to a really nice restaurant. I was like, why not? I don't want to, I didn't want
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to drink last night. So I was like, why not go on a nice date? Okay. So you are like also, but when
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you're back home in Texas, you're also like going on dates here and there too. Not really. With other
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guys? Not really. I don't go on like hinge dates. I don't really respond to my DMs, but if I come
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across people in public, like if a guy asked me out at the grocery store or at the gym, like I'll,
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I'll go on a date with him. I think that's sweet. Okay. Um, um, the guy that you've been seeing for
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two months, uh, let's see, uh, you've been on 10 dates with him. He's kind of moving things slow.
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Is he dating other women? I would assume so. I think so. We haven't like talked about that.
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um but i think he probably is yeah okay is there a reason you haven't you know tried to pull the
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trigger on any of these well i mean you haven't met the la guy or whatever but there was a guy
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you were dating for two weeks there's this two-month guy uh i mean do you want a relationship
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with either of them or yeah i would have a relationship um i think i just like would like
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to spend more time to get to know to get to get to know him more and I'm also at a part part point
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in my life where like I do value independence and like I'm trying to grow a lot um on social media
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and maybe possibly find a job also and just like develop myself more and I don't think I've reached
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my full potential yet to attract like the best person into my life so that's kind of why I'm like
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hesitant to get into a relationship right now. Okay. And then you also were in Australia where
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you had one singular boyfriend for about six months. Yes. But besides that, you've never had
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a boyfriend. Yeah, no. Okay. So, because you did say you've essentially been single for 22 years
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of your life. Do you want a boyfriend? I mean, what's that? You said you were
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focused on work and career and stuff so not really right now i'm open to it if it happens
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it happens but not really now knowing that you and we'll get to everybody's relationship status
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but i just want to dive into a topic on this uh knowing that she's dating basically three men
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like three men at the same time uh and that you're going from time to time on dates with
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other people uh do you guys think men should still pay for the date like if if a guy was going on a
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date with her tomorrow yes knowing that she's like actively dating other men should the man still pay
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for the date yes yes i think so let's go around the table what do you think yes i think all three
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of them should take her on a date at the same time that is very creative excuse me
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that's fucking disgusting uh get your mind out of the gutter uh what do you think i think he
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should yes he should i'd say half and half it depends on how you're getting along with the
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people and yeah well let's just let's say that well let's ask uh 50 something well let's say
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that the date's going good should the man pay i'm thinking the more he wants to impress her
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yes okay in a fairness when you're dating somebody it's fair enough to maybe split the
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bill sometimes sure what do you think there uh absolutely yes absolutely yes okay all right
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what do you think yes i agree with the yes okay what do you think uh no yes only if it's exclusive
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if you're dating multiple people and you're not exclusive it depends on the vibe yeah what about
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you no should not the man should not pay what do you think assuming that he knows you are dating
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multiple people he absolutely should not be paying for that only if you give him your full attention
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exclusively he should uh and then question uh sort of related to this but a bit different
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going around the table have has anyone here gone on two dates in the same night just two dates
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You know, you go on a date, you meet at the bar or dinner at 6 p.m., and then you got another date after 8 p.m.
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and then uh in that situation uh going around the table let's say you could imagine though that
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there are sometimes women who will go on dates uh two and two dates in the night do you think in
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that circumstance that we'll say that should the first guy pay for the date but I guess should
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either of them either of the two men pay for the date if she's going on two dates in the night
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oh um what do you think about that i guess for both of them like yes i think if you're going on
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a first date i think if you're talking to multiple people it's not it's not assumed you're exclusive
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like these guys are probably talking to multiple girls so it's part of the courting like it's it's
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courting a girl and like women are i guess like valuable like men men pay to have women around
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and like especially if he's well off really quick are men not valuable no they are they
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What I'm trying to say is to a man, having a company from a beautiful woman, an intelligent woman, is valuable.
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When a man is accompanied by a beautiful woman, it just gains more respect from other men.
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So in Los Angeles, when you went on a date yesterday and it's like a city of like millions
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and millions of people and you go to a restaurant and you're never going to see any of those
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people ever again, what value am I deriving like long-term from like, let's say I never
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Like I go on the day with her and I never see her again.
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What is the value that I'm deriving in terms of from the framework of what you're laying
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Like nobody in that room is going to ever see me again.
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like no girl is gonna like at the restaurant is gonna see me on this date with this really hot
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girl and like when my date's at the bathroom gonna slide a piece of paper to me with her phone number
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like that's not gonna happen so what is like the value that i'm i'm getting from being seen with a
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beautiful woman by people i'll never see again most likely i guess because you're of status right
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okay right like people of status are seen with with beautiful women it just i don't know i think
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but so long term what is what is like the long-term benefit like okay so everyone in the
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restaurants that sees me with like a beautiful woman and they're like wow that guy's the shit
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truthfully most people don't give a probably don't care like people probably are like they're
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in their own world they're eating their food they're talking to their date or whoever they're
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with like I don't know if there's like a real strong tangible benefit of like on one given date
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having like a beautiful woman like I don't know if I see the value there pardon me I get your point
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may I interject you haven't seen any 80s movies then right because in the 80s movies it was
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basically take the hot girl out so other girls think you're attractive wait wait I'm I'm just
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i'm just throwing that out wait if i'm going to wait wait but if i'm going to a restaurant
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with a woman wouldn't you agree that my attention ought to be focused on the woman i'm on a date
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with not trying to use her as a pawn to like get an ego boost from the other women or men at the
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restaurant i should be focused on her talking to her engaging with her and truthfully i'm not
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going to derive like maybe in some movie like which is mind you is uh fictional i don't think
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i'm really going to derive some sort of like women aren't going to see me on a date with like
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another attractive woman and be like wow let me just like slip him my number like i don't
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maybe that happens like now it's just men trying to impress men yeah i think the kind of movies
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you're also referring to is like scarface you know when there is a scarface scarface have you
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watch the movie scarface yeah so there was there was a woman who is basically being kind of courted
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by both enemies eventually oh in a scenario whereby you bring that woman into an environment
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where everyone knows you that could be a boost of an ego and so on because everyone knows you
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are bringing that asset i guess the 80s movies yes but in a scenario that brian was explaining
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whereby you're walking to a random restaurant and you have a woman with you and nobody really
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cares who you are nobody knows you it doesn't really matter what she looks like because but
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there is a possibility of a woman saying oh who is he what does he have to offer maybe i you know
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they look like they're just she may think that but you think she'll actually wait let's actually
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hold on i mean we're getting a little off track but let's examine this so have you ever been on
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a date with a guy and can you articulate to me a time that he ever conferred a benefit
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simply by virtue of being with you at the restaurant like can you actually articulate
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the benefit the tangible benefit he received did some like business guy come up to him and be like
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wow your chick's really fucking hot let me hire you for my business has that ever happened to
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any of you it's subconscious has that ever happened no but at like if if we end up going
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out to bars and stuff it definitely is subconscious at the bar like really nice like bar that he can't
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normally get into now we can get into it now because of you discount it might be because of
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his wallet and what he can put on the table yeah i think they're gonna let him into the bar because
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he's gonna spend money right i mean now maybe if you're talking about like certain nightclubs like
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that are really kind of honestly fucking lame and they're saying oh okay you need to bring
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three girls with you if you want to get in no does that even happen having a more attractive
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woman on your arm can get you to in a club you usually can't get in sometimes this i'm just
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talking studio but you already have the girl i'm talking a little bit in history like if you already
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got the girl i mean unless you're just using her like if she's a friend or something well no it's
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like first off of going out to a nightclub the girl may say hey go there and he's like i never
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can get in and she's like no don't worry we can get in well maybe because she knows the promoter
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but that's not necessarily because of her looks and the guy being never been a studio 50 in the
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70s and 80s yeah yeah but we don't live in 70s or 80s anymore we're talking about the current
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situation these are the things that shaped what's happening today oh sorry these are the things that
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are shaping what happened today so the thing is though is that first off i don't even understand
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if you're like actually dating a woman say she's your girlfriend i think it's pretty much one of
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most retarded things ever you could do to bring a girl with you to the bar to the you already have
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her stay home watch netflix order doordash have sex why are you why are you at the club why go to
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the club you already have a girl i i mean look i'm dancing unless a friend's birthday or a real
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reason to actually be there unless you're a player i personally i'm introverted to be fair so i think
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nightclubs are like retarded but um uh anyways let's get back to the topic here there's two
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things i'm sorry i don't want to like interrupt you but there are two things i wanted to add
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okay okay the first thing is like i don't think there's anything wrong with like a first date
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not involving money it's just like i can't afford to go to a nice restaurant like that's just not
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in my budget right like yeah the guy i'm going out with probably makes a lot more money than me but
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if he wants to go walk the trail go on a hike maybe just grab coffee then i think that's
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perfectly acceptable to meet someone that way okay and then the second thing and then the second
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thing was oh i think it's so like valuable to go to a club with when you're dating somebody i mean
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i i don't really even go to the club when i'm single i'd rather go to the club if i'm dating
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someone because you can dance together like have you ever been to i guess it's not a club but like
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there's like two-step in austin there's like dance do you think heterosexual men want to dance
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like men men don't look well actually i think in one of your videos
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you were saying either either you or other women want to date uh like I'm trying to remember what
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you said exactly um like possibly gay men do you remember saying that in one of your videos
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that was completely satire well is it satire though but you did say that so I do question
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this this desire for like most men don't want to go dance like do you okay do you think a lot
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of straight men maybe there's an argument there like if it's with your girl or something maybe
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i still it's lame as fuck but like do you think men hanging out with their male friends are like
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you know what we got to do tonight we gotta we gotta dance like do you think they're like yes
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we gotta go out and dance like do you think straight men are thinking that like that's a
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desire for men but anyways besides the point back to the thing though um so it was like okay i think
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the topic was, if a woman is going out on two dates in one night, should the man pay? And you
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were, I think, explaining the justification for why men should pay, if I recall. And you said,
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well, one of the reasons is because women offer this value, like it's status to have a good
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looking woman with you. I think we already discussed that. What were the other things?
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I guess just like having a woman's company, having the emotional kind of processing and
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relation with a woman having good conversation with a woman but you get that too as the woman
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so you get i feel like most states i'm listening to guys and not really saying much well um that
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can vary i would say but in any case the the time you're both spending on the date is equivalent
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um now who's doing the talking that can be disputed but uh you have his company he has
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your company so that seems kind of equal there um but let me open it up to the rest of the panel
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um so the the prompt was a woman goes on two dates in one night and i'm asking should the men pay i
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think most half of you said yes uh you said yes the man should still pay if i recall i went around
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the table on that one right i think yeah why should the man pay um i guess it varies based
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upon like disclosure so if i was to do that i would let them know that i'm dating others and
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i would still hold them to like higher standards because regardless like if you allow them to start
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out lazy they're going to continue they're just going to get comfortable and be lazy yeah anything
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else or um i yeah no okay all right what do you think i think it does depend if they do know that
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you are dating other people and they're kind of keeping it casual as well i don't think it matters
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really who pays if you're both hemocasual however if he is trying to actively pursue her and want to
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win her over in a relationship then I would say yes to pay but I think that's his own discretion
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shouldn't in an effort to win a man over maybe she should only do one date per night though
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well yeah but if they both are kind of like oh we're both casual like it was just kind of mutual
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then that's where i would see it's like the blur of you can pay it doesn't matter i wouldn't hold
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them to that standard but all right sure what do you think and well the thing is too it's going on
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a date on the same day uh with someone you might have like a coffee with someone to get to meet
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them and then also go on a date actually have a date that night but the person can meet so
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you'll want to do that yeah um so should they pay i would say
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yeah there's no harm in buying a coffee and there's no harm in buying dinner
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um do they have to no you can have different terms uh here really quick can i have you take
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your arms off the table and move your microphone back to the edge of the table please all right
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your thoughts uh absolutely yes a guy should pay for the date even if the woman's going on two
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dates in the same irregardless irregardless a guy should absolutely pay for the day in any
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circumstance any circumstance how about this let me propose a new circumstance but i'll have the
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rest of the guests answer uh there's no circumstance under which you think a man should be alleviated
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of a duty to pay for a date no i think i think let me ask you this let me ask you this let's say
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instead of her going on a so the the second date guy let's say instead of it you know she went on
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a date with another man uh she's having sex so she has a fuck buddy and prior to the date that
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she's going on with this man uh this is her ongoing fuck buddy and she's on birth control
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this other man ejaculated inside of her so when she's on that date with uh sure with this other
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man she literally has another man's seed leaking out of her um sure under that circumstance now
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and you would agree would you perhaps you would agree that a man paying for a date is traditional
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Do you think it's traditional to show up to a date
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yes i absolutely believe that he should still pay for the day he's still open to knowing that she's
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she she he's still open to accepting that she's dating three guys dating three guys is open to
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the fact that she could be sleeping with them she could be kissing them she could be being
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intimate with them he's still intellectualizing and accepting that okay she has the possibility
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to be intimate with them he's accepting that and then him by him taking her on a date he's
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accepting that okay she could be doing xyz with them and it's still going to happen so it's his
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fault whether she when the whether they come in her whether they don't whether she kisses them
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he's still going to be paying for the date and he knows that irregardless of what's going to happen
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well so what i'm asking here though is more so an examination of gender roles and fairness
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and what people deserve listen life's not fair yeah okay so should we take away women's right
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to vote well that's out of love life's not fair that doesn't that doesn't that's not relevant
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it's completely relevant no it's not well it has to do with fairness it's completely relevant we're
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talking about dating we're talking about fairness in dating now you're completely deterring the
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the conversation to an to an extra level we're talking about voting now no we're talking about
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dating okay fairness in dating yes absolutely life is not fair life is not butterflies and
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rainbows stuff might happen in between that date well i don't see why there necessarily needs to be
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uh there necessarily needs to be like a legal or political fairness uh it's not legal it's not
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political it's just beta simps don't pay for dates masculine men pay for dates but do masculine men
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uh well do masculine men date women or pay for dates for women who are uh have another man you
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don't even need to finish the sentence absolutely absolutely no because if they know if especially
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if they know that she's dating other men they have the prerogative to already pay for the dates
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because they are self-aware that she's already dating other men well it's it's not granted in
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the hypothetical that the men know can they interject in here for a moment well uh just a
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one thing here uh i don't think it's granted in the hypothetical that men know like i don't think
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most women who are sleeping with a guy and then dating other men most women are not doing a
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disclosure and i think even if asked even if asked by a man uh hey are you like let's say it's
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especially it's a guy who she really likes i think if most men were to ask a woman hey um have you
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been like seeing anybody? Have you been dating anybody? Have you like, have you had sex with
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somebody recently? Knowing that her answer might destroy her chances with this man. I think a lot
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of women, not all women, some women might be honest and forthcoming. A lot of women would
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either omit or lie that they were recently sexually active with another man, knowing that
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it will has a good chance of tanking her prospects with the man that she really likes. So I think
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um but again not all men are even gonna i guess ask for clarification but women aren't going to
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willing uh they're not going to volunteer this they're not going to volunteer hey by the way
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just letting you know we're going on a first date tonight i did fuck a guy last night like they're
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not going to volunteer that i i understand that but men need to understand that women are they're
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not going to tell the truth and nobody is going to tell you a hundred percent of the truth you
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have to take that into consideration i think we should just always be honest i understand that i
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understand that i understand that but i understand that but men and women don't always tell the
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truth human beings don't always tell the truth you have to put that into a fact of i always tell
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the truth i understand that you might always tell the truth but not everybody is exactly like you
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we should be that way fair enough they should be that way but life isn't perfect i just wanted to
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jump in originally from what you were saying that when it comes to disclosure i can bet you any
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money right now that most women will not be truthful when it comes to that and this is going
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back to what Brian was saying that especially if you really like a guy and you want to impress him
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you are not going to disclose who you slept with last and most importantly not very many guys will
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have a courage to ask you during the first date when did you sleep with somebody you know but I
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do think it's extremely unfair to accept something like paying for a date whether that be a coffee
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whether that be a very expensive fine dining experience knowing that you are going on a date
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with somebody else on the same date because if you are expecting someone else's efforts and funds
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then in that case you know it's a two-way road it's not you can't expect uh and not give back
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men lying also and men sure they do but doesn't make it okay so if we go if we go with an eye
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for an eye then that's not going to take us very far in line yeah no most behavior like that is
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learned from men and usually women are passing it on but i believe that a lot of it is our
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responsibility to take accountability for our own behavior but like a lot of men even if a man is
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a lot of them don't probe either like that's also our responsibility too to probe and to
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ask those questions and analyze and see if we're being manipulated or not sure but this goes back
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to the original you know when you were a teenager and you wanted to do something with your friends
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and then your mother would say to you oh if your friends are going to jump in a fire will you do
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the same you know no you just have to take responsibility for your own behavior but you
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have to be truthful uh in the real world most women in today's day and age between the ages of
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20 and 35 let's say they are not very likely to disclose who they slept okay but compared to men
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what are those statistics yeah well we can't say because there isn't so you're not very good at
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comparative analysis then you're not very good at comparative analysis you know exactly what women
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are but you don't know what men are but you can't expect men to pay when you know most women are
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not going to be truthful okay but how many men are not willing to be truthful on dates
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probably equal amount who knows okay so you're not completely that wasn't the question the
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question was should the guy be paying if she's not being truthful that she's going on two dates
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i understand that you know what why would a woman disclose that on the first date i just slept with
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whoever that's none of your business first of all i'm here so why would she expect him to pay then
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if she's going on two dates because we're i'm traditional so women so sorry to interrupt you
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but women want men who are protectors why would i be attracted to a man who's not protector why
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would i want a man to make me in my physical feminine energy why would i want a man to put
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me in my masculine and men don't want to date women who are fucking other men yeah why would
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you want to protect you fair enough fair enough but i understand that but they're probably fucking
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but you have to take that but that they don't have to do anything that's the truth a real
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protector and a leader and a masculine man does not have to do anything because truth be told
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there are not very many men like that left in the world and they have a lot to choose from
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and that's certainly not a girl who's gone out on a date with another guy the same night
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let alone let somebody else come in her they could use it as lube
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Hold on, that is one of the most fucking disgusting
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She follows Islam but apparently not the practice
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metromat thank you for your tts man do you want to do a quick response to that
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yeah um as i said previously at the beginning of the introduction i say i'm agnostic islamic
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so i didn't say i follow the origin a hundred percent i follow the main teachings i follow
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the main spirituality based and rooted in that religion but i don't follow it completely to its
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heart so yes of course i'm my own individual i i respond to my own um reality and i respond to
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what's happened to me in the past and i respond to what could happen to me in the past and i
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accept all things happening now in the relevant modern world so yes i understand what you're
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saying but no i disagree with that completely we're going to come back to the convo but let
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me get the other panelists answers on this question so the girl goes on uh this this date
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with two guys i guess or whatever or wait do we go around the table on that already
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was, okay, the girl goes on two dates in one night.
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For the record, I'm one of the girls who said that I went on two.
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One of them was random because exactly we're all busy people.
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If I want to get to know somebody and they happen to pop up, I'm going to go on that date.
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i did not do what you're suggesting or saying but um it really depends right where you're at
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if i'm like really with somebody that i'm like super like and but at the same time like we're
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not exclusive yet if i go on that second date and i do actually like him i'll be like okay like yeah
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next time i might date you if i still really like this guy and that mean the second guy are not
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feeling it i'm gonna be like yo like let me pay like i'll get half like i'll let it know be known
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so okay what about you um I said no um mostly because if you want a protective man for you
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like that provides like you also have to be the person that's honest and you know kind of not
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304ing around and uh your thoughts I guess yeah so I already said absolutely not you should not
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be expecting a guy to pay but beyond going back to what you were saying about feminine energy
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let's say i stick with you for a moment and say okay fine you go on two dates one night
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i don't believe you are even able as a woman to give your full feminine energy to both of these
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guys equally as good why not because your attention women are very emotional well like
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we're emotional beings so being emotional means that you're not being able to be feminine
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I don't believe that you are able to give the same amount of emotion and...
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So you need to be equally emotional to both men to be able to be feminine.
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I believe your full attention is not going to be on both of them equally in one day, no.
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Yeah, but attention doesn't equal to femininity, though.
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So your feminine energy, you can't give attention to that guy through your feminine energy.
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So you're saying feminine energy is an umbrella term?
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in this case it is absolutely also i've just explained that feminine energy in general of
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how you carry yourself how you speak to the guy on the date you're not even able to give him the
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full attention on a second date because somewhere at the back of your head you're going to be
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thinking about the previous dates it's impossible but beyond that i still i still don't agree with
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being so unfaithful in a term of you expecting somebody to pay and you know give their resources
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where you haven't given your full resources in that case that's your opinion you're entitled
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to your opinion i respect that but i feel like you definitely absolutely can be feminine with
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both dates i personally i don't do that but in regards to women that do do that you absolutely
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can be feminine there are women there are women that are naturally feminine and of course they
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can object that in both dates so you don't have to be one one in one date masculine that you come
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with a Nike tech fleece and you meet the guy and then the second date you come in a dress and you
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have to be all feminine and touching the guy and everything no absolutely you can be feminine and
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you can be in your feminine energy yeah so even granting even granting that women can be feminine
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even if they're being whores, that still really doesn't contend with the central argument here,
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which is, do women deserve it? So if a woman is fucking other men, multiple other men maybe,
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or whatever it might be, does she deserve to have her date paid for? It's not about deserve.
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Well, that's the question that's being asked. If you're talking about strictly deserve,
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does a woman deserve it? It depends on the individual itself. It doesn't, it doesn't
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So the individual itself, she got fucked by a different guy.
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Does that individual that you're talking about?
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I thought you were being broad with the question.
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I think we've got to parse things out a little bit.
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I said that if he feels like he wants to pay for it, what is the difference between
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I mean, if I go on a date on Tuesday and go on a Wednesday, there's 24 hours, but there's 48 hours in two days, what's the difference?
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Let me separate between what is and what ought to be or who is deserving.
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So I acknowledge that despite a woman, she could be a sex worker.
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We talked about this last time we were on the show.
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She could be, from a bird's eye view down, from an outsider perspective, she could be the least deserving of a man being traditional and paying for dates.
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It doesn't mean, well, we can get to that, it doesn't necessarily mean that she's not going to get it.
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Like, plenty of men are going to take OnlyFans girls and prostitutes and porn stars out on dates and pay for the dinner.
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The men are still going to pay because it's, to use a video game term called meta, most effective tactics available.
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if as a man you're inclined to date a woman who is a sex worker or promiscuous or whatever it is
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it is the most effective strategy when it comes to dating too and it is sort of like the so there's
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a social pressure that exists too to pay for the date that's uh it's either going to be neutral or
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positive to pay for the date if you don't pay for the date at best it's neutral uh or it's negative
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it's never going to be like a positive oh i like him more because we went 50 50 no like it's
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Maybe neutral for some women, or it's going to be a negative for a lot.
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So there's no dispute that men are still going to pay for the woman, even if she's a strumpet.
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Even if she, like, is letting dudes blast in her, and she's leaking out of every possible hole imaginable.
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Because if you have an expectation on men to adhere to a traditional gender role, there should be some level.
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Now, look, I'm not saying the woman need not be like she has to be a virgin.
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Otherwise, you shouldn't pay for the date.
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No, like, OK, she's had previous sexual partners.
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And but I do think there's a certain level of perhaps if there's an expectation on men to pay for dates, to be traditional.
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What would be the reasonable expectation on women to be deserving of that sort of just basic respect for one another?
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And I don't think it is respectful to be, like, stacking three dates in a day.
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I don't think it's respectful to be actively fucking a guy and, like, going – well, people do it.
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You're putting women at the other end of the spectrum while you're putting men at a decent average level.
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you said a man needs to get a woman needs to get fucked and a guy to come in her and then a guy
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just needs to date her that that that's the that's the level that you're putting it at why not a girl
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just dating through guys and having normal dates and not fucking and getting cummed in and then
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meeting the guy later on for a next date why did you have to put it at the opposite end of the 304
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whole spectrum well first why can't why can't it be the guy that gets fucked and comes in comes in
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the girl and then does all of that and then meets her yeah yeah an hour later well so two things
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First off, your framing of, well, it's very extreme for a woman to be sexually active with one man, meanwhile she's dating, like going out on dates.
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I actually don't think it's that extreme of a situation or that uncommon that a woman has like a friends with benefits or a sneaky link or, you know, a fuck buddy or a situationship.
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and she's not quite in like monogamous relationship territory and all the while she's going out on
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dates with other men with an expectation for them to pay I don't think it's fair to frame that as
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like some like really outlier thing I think it's actually fairly common but uh and sorry what was
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the second part of your thing it's just the way you phrased it and I said you put women at the
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other end of the spectrum saying a guy's meeting her that day fucking her coming oh and what if men
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And then the men, it was just like he was just dating her and meeting her that night.
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So I would have a similar objection for men to be moving in that way too.
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I don't believe, no, I think there's some degree of difference, but I don't think men should be promiscuous either.
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Now, there's some differences a little bit, but I think promiscuity is bad in both men and women.
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but the reason the reason i'm specifically making this about women is because it's about the this
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one directional expectation from women to men about who should pay for the first date there
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is no typical expectation uh that men place on women to like pay for first dates or really do
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anything on the first date uh in terms of really something they do a benefit they provide or or
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something like that so you're talking about an effort for an effort expectation for an expectation
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this scenario yeah if if the expectation is i want to hold men to a traditional standard
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i believe women should hold like you should be adhering to your own traditional standard and i
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think women are sort of have forsaken uh many of their own traditional standards that's just
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that's just a societal norm that's like men women saying okay men for hundreds and thousands of
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years have been keeping their hair short now men should automatically have their hair long and
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women should have short hair and that should be the size and that should be the societal norm now
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it's been a societal norm for men to pay for dates for men to court the woman for men to
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be the provider be the protector and why should a man be in be in his feminine energy and not
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protect and not provide and not be there for a woman because that's his instinctive behavior
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within not even within humans within animalistic uh within animals within you know other other
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realms of society as well not just humans can i just really quick um are you making a
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it sounds to me a bit like you're making a defense of it's okay for women to be whores
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is that do i i'm not saying it's okay to women to be whores i i don't accept that as well i don't
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Shouldn't it be like, shouldn't men, in an effort to perhaps bring women to a better equilibrium,
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shouldn't men perhaps withhold their traditional treatment so as to compel women to be acting in a more traditional way?
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If the girl asks the guy out or says, take me out to dinner, then maybe it's fair to split the bill.
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uh have you ever asked a guy out no oh how many first dates have you been on probably a lot
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probably like 50 50 100 maybe 50 to 100 first dates maybe like 30 to 50 first dates yeah just
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like meeting out for it could be dinner it could be bowling whatever it is right yeah yeah you've
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never asked a man out no but you so okay your position is whoever asks should pay for the date
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yeah aren't you kind of ignoring the uh social and cultural and dating landscape where women
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don't do that exhibit exhibit a logic of that's traditional for a man to ask a girl out it's
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traditional for a man to pay right right but if i don't necessarily want to go out on dates right
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like when i was employed i didn't have time to go out on dates now that i'm like unemployed i have
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some time to go out on dates but it's like i don't necessarily even want to be going out with these
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guys so like if he's paying for it it's kind of like a way of courting me into it you know can i
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interject in here i don't want to go out with my girlfriend if i'm paying for it so i didn't want
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to do this when um the other person just left the table for a short break but going back to
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societal norms we have just heard comparing you know it's been very traditional and normal for a
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man to provide to protect and so on so why don't we also look at the traditional norms for women
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back then whereby a woman is expected to behave a certain way and she's certainly back to
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traditional roles not expected to be going out on two dates in one day we're not even talking about
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two dates in a week back to traditional norms is meeting somebody you going out for a little dance
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with them or a drink or a dinner and then you're getting married to them you know so if you really
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want to go back to tradition that's how women should be behaving if you're expecting of men
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to be behaving the same way and there is a difference equal there is a difference in
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equality because we're talking about equality in here and traditional norms um you can't
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talk about doing a different thing and expecting the same outcome you know if men are doing
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I don't know if I agree with everything of that
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about going all the way back where the woman cooks,
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cleans, does everything, she stays home with the kids, everything
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How many kings are there in the nation, typically?
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But my point is, if you're talking about traditions, then the tradition keeps changing.
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It's never been, I mean, generally speaking, it's never been the tradition for the average person to have a mistress.
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It's always been frowned upon, even in Bridgerton recently.
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It's frowned upon, but it's not like you don't know.
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the bible doesn't allow for polygamy well i'm not saying it allowed but like there's a it's like
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it's a sin in the bible in the ten commandments there was like the normalization of it in society
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if it's a sin it's definitely not normalized the bible it's always been a thing where men have
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always tried to have their mistress it's been a thing maybe culturally at certain times always
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frowned upon even going back to you know silly little bridgerton uh it's been frowned upon to
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have a mistress but it's definitely not i'm not claiming that it's not a sin i'm just saying there
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are stories in the bible about it maybe frowning upon that given person but it's not been normalized
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in the bible and it's not been you know encouraged but can you say it hasn't been normalized in our
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society because it's yeah but we're talking about normalizing the bible that's what you guys were
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first talking about was is she deserving because of the two date thing in one day right yeah and
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then you went and talked about well if the guy wants to pay for the date then the girl has to
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be traditional yep what is what is the traditional that you want in this day and age are we able to
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have that because there are homes where it's not traditional in any aspect there's homes that it's
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traditional but there's going to be exclusions or exceptions in there so where is the cutoff
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for anybody and everybody i will tell you i know what you're asking about and i think it's very
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important for me to say that i'm certainly not arguing for women to go back to the kitchen stand
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barefoot and bake sourdough that's not my point i you're not arguing for that i'd actually be
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that sounds great and i would love to do this every day but i think it's very important to
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know that it's not good to be radical on either side of the spectrum that's not radical wait wait
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that's not radical we're talking about women back when they had no voting rights no legal rights
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I'm part of history no but we were your question
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i just feel like i feel like if it were gonna talk about it the 50s it went from okay we date
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one person we get married or you get put into a family and you get married and then it went to
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okay we can both date other people until we're exclusive then i can still go on these dates
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these dinner dates where i can go hang out with people like that was that was the normal now that
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people are you know how you guys are saying like you have to be honest let's be honest when you
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sit down at a table and someone is confessing everything about them you instantly get turned
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off or throughout the night, you're like, okay, there's too much. Let's be honest when it comes
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to it. For every single aspect of our humanity, we have to have that discernment. We have to
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discern what we give to other people, that information, right? If we give too much,
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we're automatically not liked. If we give too little, we're boring. So there has to be a back
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and forth. There has to be a minimum, right? But when it comes to dating, when it comes to dating
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guy wanting to pay and then going on a Wednesday
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know because you and I are actually not that far
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go back to you know how far back traditional are we going to go back to just give basic respect to
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another human being and i believe that if you are starting if you're going on the first date with
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someone right so and if you are both meaning to make something more of it so at the same time
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when you're meeting someone for the first time the general first question is what are you looking for
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yeah and somebody usually says do you know what i am looking for a long-term relationship i am
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looking for i don't know a fuck buddy but then you know if you're looking for a relationship you're
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not going to commit to that person right and once you establish on that first date you are both
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looking for a long-term relationship you are giving your full undivided attention to that person
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and you are not going on another date as you said the same week with another person because you are
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actively now giving your whole attention to the person where you both said you are looking for
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a committed relationship okay so I don't know how long you want to be dating but if I'm dating one
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person i do that every single time i have talked to somebody i would be dating until i'm 80 nobody
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gives up the first thing nobody is sitting there absolutely like it's i don't understand if i say
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let's go on a date if we let's go on a date i never had that problem so i can't provide so i don't
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okay so where are you from because where i'm from in the ie if you date one person at a time every
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single time mind you that guy is not going to wait hold on this is totally incoherent this idea that
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women like it you're you're not going to be able to maximize your dating prospects um if you try
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to try to date people one at a time think of it this way let's say you go on one date a week which
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frankly i think is a lot like i think that's a lot um and uh i i ultimately think that this idea
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that oh i need to go like on seven dates in a week and i need to stack multiple dates that's
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completely ridiculous um how many i wasn't saying that that craziness let me finish and so ultimately
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like okay if you go on one date per week that's 52 first dates in a year if you're going on 52
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first dates in a year that's one per week could you even remember all the names and you're not
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finding your person like you gotta you gotta readjust either kind of who you're going out
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with you need a you need a vet better but i'm sorry 52 dates in one year so you're saying
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oh i'm gonna be if i only date one person at a time and one date per week i'm never gonna find
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my person again that's 52 individual people a year if you go on one date per week like how many
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dudes are honestly it's also got to be overwhelming like how do you who has the energy to date
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fucking seven people in a week. That's crazy. Where are you finding these people? Where are
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you finding these people? And isn't it up to the individual? Okay. Yeah. Everything's up to the
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individual. But the point here is ultimately, I think, look, if you're a woman and you're dating
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all these guys at the same time, and from the male perspective, maybe as you as women can't
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really relate to this, it's just seems like a pretty raw deal that I'm going to go on a date
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with a woman. And then right after me, perhaps this is more realistic. Um, she has another date
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plan with a different guy. I'm like, so I'm supposed to treat you to like a night out.
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And then you're going on a date after what if we're having a really good time? What if I want
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to take you to dessert? You're, Oh, sorry, I got to go. I'm going to go meet Billy. Like I,
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I would feel it's disrespectful. I probably wouldn't even want to go on the date if she
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told me, but how do you know if you're going to even commit to her? You need to have a first date.
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That's a barrier to entry to even know if you're even going to commit to her on the first date.
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A first date for a man that pays for on the first date shows discipline.
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It shows how he is willing to actually do what he can for a woman when he finally does commit to her.
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And men have been able to date and it's okay.
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But when, especially in my time and era, and all of a sudden women are dating.
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I mean, you're dating to see if you like someone or if you like, you know, who you like, what you like, especially when you're younger.
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You're trying to figure out who you are and what you're looking for when you're younger.
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You need to see what kind of relationship you want, who you want to be with.
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Right, but again, like, okay, if we break it down in just one year.
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Let's say a woman starts dating at 18, and so she goes on one date per week, which apparently to some people on the panel, that's like really minimal.
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that like, whoa, you're really like hampering down on your options or whatever. That's 52 dates in a
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year. If you go on one per week, that's 52 individual men. Like how long does it take you
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to find the guy? Like ultimately like this idea that you got to be stacking dates and like going
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on multiple dates per week. Look, you can do it. And if you find that that to be the most effective
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strategy for you as a woman to do, uh, I guess by all means, but I'm speaking strictly from the
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perspective of, hey, if you're going on that many dates, I'm just going to assume that you're not
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really all that inclined to actually pursuing something serious. You're probably just dating
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around. You've got, okay, if I'm going on a date with a girl, let me put it in this perspective.
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How about this? Let me frame it like this. Because I'm throwing in, okay, some guy's comment is
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inside her. She's stacking three dates in a night, two dates in a night. How about this?
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Maybe this is more realistic. I go on a date with a girl. Say I meet her on a dating app.
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And on the date, I'm like, so how long you been on the apps?
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And she tells me, oh, yeah, I got to say it's a Wednesday on the date.
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Oh, I've got a date tomorrow, and then Friday, and then Saturday, and then Sunday, and then Monday.
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Like, say it's just, I don't know, the next four days she has dates.
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And I'm like, oh, okay, well, what about the weekend after that?
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knowing that that let's say let's say okay it's three hours in on the date and i know that she's
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got all these other dates planned and i'm like listen i had a really good time i'd like to take
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you on another date i know that you have a date tomorrow cancel that date and she says no well
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she says no she's like look brian i'd be down but she says i'd be down to go on another date
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with you i had a really good time but you know i want to i told these guys i'd go on this date
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with them i want to you know see if maybe it's a better fit with them in that situation
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in that situation i think when the check comes yeah that's an expression of her
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if she says if she says no after that then i understand because that's the expression of her
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inner feelings have you have come across to her that's emotional don't she's not you're not worthy
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enough to her well i don't think it's necessarily like don't you think it could be the case that
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she could have really enjoyed the date but she wants to see maybe one of these other guys is
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a better fit well maybe she's more promiscuous then because some women go on on dating apps to
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find the one to find their man some women go on on dating apps for for free dinners to fuck like
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you said to have a good time you know to see what's out there play the field i get that right
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But if you actually clicked and hit it off and you thought it from your side as well
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and she probably felt it from her side, but she's like, nah, I don't want to do that.
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But the thing is, she's now just told me, but I do want to, those other dates I had scheduled,
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And at that point, I'm like, from the male perspective, I would simply just think, I
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mean, hey, she's down to go on another date with me.
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Than the everyday average dating pool situation
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i thought you didn't go on a lot of dates no i've heard from my friends who have experiences
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who have dates like this you don't have to have a lot of dates you don't have to have a lot of
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wait wait stop stop um here can i have you read the super chat yeah yeah higher versus ai just
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gave two hundred dollars you should give me two i do you rage bader gretel what the fuck are you
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doing here you're crazy you probably know who i am irl why are you calling me gretel um men like
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me were trash and turned women into y'all i apologize we're in our 30s now and learn lessons
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nobody should be getting busted in by other dudes while serious dating lol gross i agree
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one corinthians seven two one man one wife uh-huh thank you for the super chat man appreciate it
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w's in the chat for higher verse thank you man higher verse ai the big 200 super chat thank you
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man appreciate it yeah no man if uh if the girl is fucking other dudes well that's a different
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thing than dating what the dude is dating other girls uh they're two different things well there's
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not an expectation it's like what can the woman withhold i mean maybe don't fuck the guy like
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don't sleep with the guy if but that but that's that's a if you're fucking other guys and meeting
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other guys religiously that that's a hoe you're hoeing yourself out sometimes sometimes you don't
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know if a woman is a hoe for show i understand that but but as a man going on a dating app
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regardless you're taking a risk because women are not always going to tell you the truth especially
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if you meet on a dating app you're taking a risk you know you know that there's you know that
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there's an abundance of men an abundance of a dating pool out there that she's swiping left
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swiping right on you should automatically know especially if it's tinder one of them fuck apps
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you know you don't exactly know which one but so i know you're taking a risk so you can't you can't
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question that yes but so i understand that individual men will encounter situations where
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they go on dates with women where the woman is not necessarily being, uh, up front with her
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other dating prospects, or maybe she's got a friends with men, whatever it is. Right. But I'm
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saying here, sitting at the table, talking about dating dynamics, having like a discussion about
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the, the dynamics between men and women, having a bird's eye view, looking down at the chess board
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of dating. It would occur to me that it's like fucking bullshit that men should have to pay for
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dates if the woman is being a hoe or dating a bunch of guys it's a complex situation but
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so if looking down on the specific situation that you stated i agree a man shouldn't pay for that
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specific date but in the realm of dating on a normal dating situation yes he should pay for
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the day sure i'm happy to agree with you on that well there we go i have a question may i interject
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because i feel like i've been high maintenance have ever paid for a man on a date what do you
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think have you gone on two dates in the same day why don't you just tell me have you yes yes good
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for you are you paid for a date cool i've definitely all right see the attitude is kind
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of well okay cool but no i have i'm fine with that i mean i've gone out with guys that are rich
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stay focused on what they are presenting in front of you but if you are distracted by multiple other
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men you're not going to be able to see who is quality who steps up also why not wait stop stop
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stop let me follow up on that here i think you make a very good point i think there's two things
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i think women might be pleasantly surprised look perhaps you might feel like it's not the maximal
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way to you know go about things if you are like doing one guy at a time but how about this can
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we agree that it might be the best thing if both men and women like let's say there's just some
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collective agreement you know and we just all agreed you know what let's do this we will everyone
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now this would never happen this is obviously hypothetical everyone just agrees to only date
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one person at a time and hey maybe that only means going on one date and she doesn't like me
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i don't like her neither both people don't like each other i agree both people don't like each
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other. And then it's like, Hey, it didn't work onto the next one. But I think when you get in
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situations where you're dating multiple people, it's like, at least from the male perspective,
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and I don't know if women feel this way, but maybe even you as women feel like an apprehension to
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like, okay, this guy's like dating three girls. He's fun to hang out with, but like, do I want
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to give him my attention? But then I similarly from the male perspective, if I, if I know a
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girls like dating other men. First off, I want nothing to do with her. Some men are a bit more
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tolerating of that. I want an, I want a girl's undivided attention, undivided attention. She's,
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she's laughing, but undivided attention. Now, look, I think realistically first date,
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it might be unrealistic. It depends on the context. First date might be somewhat unrealistic
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going in, but I could say something like, look, I had a good time with you. Maybe you want to see
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me. Maybe you don't. This isn't actually what I'd verbatim say, but, um, if you want to go on a
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second date with me. This is not what I'm saying, but the, the, uh, what I'm trying to convey or
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what I would want. If you want to go on a second date, it has to be a wrap with the other guys.
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If we're going to pursue things, it has to be a wrap with other men. That's how it should be.
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Now, truthfully, uh, of my more recent dating excursions, well, at least since I started the
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podcast, not to say that I haven't shot my shot here and there. Um, the majority of women I've
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dated in the past three to four years they've all reached out to me so i have much more leverage in
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that situation to be like you want to come fly out to see me uh you need to be a hundred percent
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properly single there can't be other dudes in the picture you first first date i guess technically
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uh yeah you can't be seeing other guys oh you're dating a guy hey i maybe come back to me in six
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months when you're properly single but i don't want to deal with a woman who's dealing with other
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men. That's a completely different situation. Exactly. Exactly. You're saying if you're dating
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a person, not going out on dates, because I think it's very good for people to date someone,
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go out to dinner, coffee, maybe go to the park, whatever, get to know each other a little bit.
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But if you like someone, you tell them and you stop going out on anything because you like each
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other that's usually what would happen but dating is dating relationships and having a relationship
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and then going on a date with someone isn't really dating just building on that as well
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you said your mic to the edge of the table just building on that as well you mentioned that
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if she she cold approached you through dm yeah we were talking about dating apps dating apps
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One of the examples I gave was in a dating app circumstance.
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However, this could be like in any of the ways that people typically meet.
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But a lot of people do meet online on dating apps.
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But what we were mentioning earlier, specifically dating apps previously, and now you're talking about Instagram, cold approach.
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i understand if women approach you first and they are dating around and you have a preference for
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women that are specifically single i totally understand that agree with that cool but if
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women are on dating apps you're putting yourself at risk regardless so you're accepting that
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completely that okay she might be dating around she might be fucking other guys she might be
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dating other guys but i'm willing to take that risk as a man to filter out which women are for
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me so you can't really say um yourself you can't really say oh okay i'm not going to accept her
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because she's dating other men you're on a fucking dating app of course she's going to be dating other
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men well i think there's a there's there's a degree it's it's two degrees it's to scale it's
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to severity so of course if you're on the dating app like there's a good chance now to be fair i
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think there's also sometimes on dating apps where women are kind of selective and they're not just
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like bombarding date after date after date there they maybe are more desirous of like a long-term
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thing i think a lot of like hinge for example i think a lot of women on hinge uh they are probably
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looking more so for long-term relationships now there are like more dating apps that tend to be
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more hookup although people can find long-term relationships on like tinder and i haven't been
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on these apps in years but um i do think you do to be charitable to your position i do think it
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is the case that yes if you are meeting a woman on a dating app realistically speaking like you're
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probably going to have to accept that she is at minimum not saying she's like fucking all these
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guys yeah but she's like going out on dates with other men i don't agree can i interject because
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that is again could be an exception from the rule no i think it's not probably i have used
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i think it's fair to assume wait wait hold on i do think it's fair to assume if you're meeting
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someone on a dating app that there's a good well okay yes there can be given women who are not
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moving like that but i would say the majority of women probably are uh who you do meet on dating
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apps not saying they're fucking all these guys yeah but they're probably going on like one or
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two dates a week i think it's not uh perhaps more i don't think it's unreasonable like going in that
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you should maybe assume that they're probably dating other guys
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dating apps are like window shopping honestly like what do you expect to get off a dating app
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like you're gonna have to go you're swiping through there are good people there yeah but
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most of the time like someone doesn't have genuine intentions like yeah like even if it's a woman or
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a man but usually like yeah like you're literally like sitting there like yeah exactly I feel like
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in my generation something I come across a lot is like I go out on a couple dates it's like I'm not
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going out with anyone else during this period and then the guy kind of pulls away right and he's
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making excuses about it like oh i'm busy and it seems like maybe he's not super interested anymore
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and that's the point where it's like okay maybe i'll try going out with somebody else but i'm
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not gonna be like i'm never gonna see this guy again it's just like isn't that you don't want
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to cut it then because you can you know as you said you are able to read the room you can feel
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that his intentions aren't exactly fully on you so if you can feel it my personal advice as someone
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just a slightly bit older and having also had bad dating experience with guys like that
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don't give them your time of the day and even consider leaving open door are you saying that
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these are guys that you went on dates with yeah yeah well it's probably because they saw your
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tiktok they saw your tiktok and like she's what was her tiktok play the tiktok play the tiktok
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here let me um let's do this uh we've been we've been on this topic for a while let's uh i need to
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get everybody else's relationship status but uh okay what about you I'm in a monogamous
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relationship I've been with him for I I've been dating him for almost two years now but we've
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been together for less than a year okay uh longest relationship um I think three how many cups do
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All right. That was my longest relationship. Thank you.
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And if you can guess how long it's been since I had sex.
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It's within the past 14 days you've fucked.
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We were living in different places and doing some things,
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and our lives kind of moved in a different direction.
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So I've only had two boyfriends, and the first boyfriend was a year.
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Who broke up with who in the year relationship?
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And then you've been single for a year and a half.
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I know you would have wanted it the same day, but no, not the same day.
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But, you know, hopefully in the near future, we'll see what happens.
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Right now, no, there's not a guy in the picture.
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I mean, I still chat to him here and there, but it's not like a relationship.
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I'm into like athletic build, you know, good looking.
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Why does every American want me to say this, man?
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longest relationship? I would say eight years, almost nine years. Was that the father? No.
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Okay. Different relationship. Yes. The father, how long was that relationship?
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It wasn't very long. So we had a baby and we weren't compatible and no, it was a one night
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stand. Yeah. We were dating for like probably about a year, maybe. A year? Yeah. How soon
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into the relationship did you get preggers? We broke up and then we came back together.
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And then as soon as we came back together, I became pregnant.
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But, you know, I have a beautiful daughter now.
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all right three years any guys in the picture currently um i have a person what does that
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mean i like him we're talking but we're not like i've gone on one date with him but i've never
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how long celibate uh two years how long celibate um
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well recently for a couple months couple months uh wait i gotta how long what really okay so how
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long celibate like a little over a year a year yeah you've been celibate for a year okay yeah
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a little over a year all right that's good okay what about uh you relationship status and celibacy
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period i'm single i have been celibate for almost a year okay celibate for one year all right uh
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single for how long uh for about a year and a half one year okay longest relationship four-ish
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years on and off any kids no ever married no okay what about you single for a year and a half
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been married before divorced no children and actively trying to date people but one person
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at a time important notes uh celibate for how long about a month oh but you've been single for
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a year and a half i mean yeah i was dating somebody on multiple dates we started to sleep
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with each other and then it never led to a relationship one one reason or another after
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what date though oh good question uh definitely not the first ever oh definitely not definitely
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like how many like how many not not how many dates but like how many times after you hooked up
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like was it the after the first time you hooked up that it i wouldn't consider something that you
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uh seeing somebody let's say for a month and then you find out that this person has been
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seeing multiple people at the same time i would never sorry was he that's what i found out so i
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wouldn't consider him to be my boyfriend but was he lying yes but like you but so you you guys you
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guys had carnal knowledge apple doesn't and then how soon after the carnal knowledge did you did
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things end sex yeah after you had sex with him when did it end wow i don't exactly remember i
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didn't take a note of that okay wait here i'll make it super simple how many times did you have
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carnal knowledge he doesn't know what carnal knowledge is can you break it yeah i understand
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We were actively seeing each other a few times a week, you know,
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going on dates and doing normal things every day.
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Ballpark, I don't need to know how many pumps there were.
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If you are dating somebody for a month and you have sex with them for the first time after...
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i think one uh the bond is one i think one really yeah well how long after does it not work out
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yes you build a connection guys do that you create more bonds with that person yeah maybe
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it's a chemical it's a it's a it's a different kind of hurt yeah yeah it's like different like
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smashed one i feel like once is because you finally thought that you gave yourself to someone
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emotionally spiritually you know that energies are formed when you when you actually have sex
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with people so energies are connected once you have sex with someone so once you actually
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physically give yourself to somebody and you think they're worthy of your sexual interaction
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and then they just ghost you obviously that's going to hurt more than once you've fucked someone
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multiple times you feel like they're worthy because you've actually given it to them multiple times
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and guys do that a lot the first one unfortunately it's not like painful i feel like if you spend more
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time and energy on somebody it's more discouraging and more hurtful because you get emotionally
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attached to somebody that's exactly what that's why you would want to have sex with them in the
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first place and you get emotionally attached and then they go to you that's gonna hurt more
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you've had sex 30 times there's a lot of oxytocin it's gonna hurt me more that
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yeah and from the woman's perspective you don't release that amount of oxytocin
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Yeah, so I wonder from the male perspective, though, like, if a girl was going to cut things off, would I want her to cut it off, like, just after the first one?
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nah I'd want to hit at least like 10 times I think
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so you put in all that energy for 10 times to hit it 10 times you put in all that energy
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calls text messages pretending that you care about her fucking life you put all of that in
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okay so what do you do I had to keep coming back recurring 10 times what do you do that's so
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interesting hmm well i wasn't making a plan about that but um right ultimately though yeah i think
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uh at least you want to hit like at least four times you know okay so what would you do to make
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her recur want to hit that four times it's not that deep i wasn't what are you so interesting
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about you i wasn't i wasn't even making the claim i think he's just rolling well i mean i assume i
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assume that if uh if she wants to continue seeing me then uh it's either status if you don't bring
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anything to the table status money fame that's all you got to offer like if you don't have a
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personality you don't have anything any substance what else do you have i'm not saying you don't
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have but i'm just saying if you don't have if you didn't have any of that what what else would you
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bring to the table money status are you asking in general you're asking specifically what
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you what i bring to the table you want me absolutely absolutely tell you what remind me
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in uh in two hours and i'll answer the question we'll we'll get to that we'll go over we'll have
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everyone uh we'll we'll have everyone go around the table but uh well now i feel tempted to just
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answer it right you might as well i feel tempted to just answer it right now so okay what do i
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bring to the table uh well let's see here uh on the looks front frankly not much uh to be fair
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though i'm tall blue eyes dark hair up for the bite but i need to lose some weight i'm a little
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chubby right now speaking of which i do want to talk about fatness uh speaking as i am a expert
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witness on the subject i do want to talk about that but uh not much on the looks front to be
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fair i think i'm like average maybe a bit below average looking if i lost weight i think i could
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get to like solid 5.5 you know yeah maybe work on the skin clarity um but beyond just looks and i
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think women looks are important but i think there's ways men can bolster their attraction
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to women in ways beyond just looks is that the way you kind of like um allow yourself to take
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that into consideration so you don't like hurt and cry yourself to sleep at night
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sorry what repeat that i said is that a way you kind of take that in
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and allow yourself to not um cry yourself to sleep every night what do you mean by being
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self-aware that i'm chubby yeah to say like yeah make sure it's not like a coping mechanism so
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how's it how's it cope if i'm self-aware same like saying like you're like slightly chubby and like
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it's my skincare that doesn't get me get girls it's not my personality it's not the way that i
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approach women it's just my looks and you know no you add the question you asked was you're
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completely off topic the question you asked was what do i bring to the table and i was so one of
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the ways that people can bring something to the table is looks, but I'm affirmatively making the
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claim that it ain't my looks. So like, I don't know if you're, there's no cope occurring.
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You're talking elsewhere about not about looks then. No, no. What I'm saying is I'm like laying
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out, like there, there are some perhaps, uh, I was laying out like the benefits, uh, looks wise
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that I minimally provide, which is I am, I am on the taller side, uh, blue eyes, which is typically
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preferential. And dark hair, that's sort of like the preferred phenotype. But moving aside from
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that, my looks are really not doing the heavy lifting here. So I would say there's a couple
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things. On the topic of money, for example, I think women are typically looking for men to be
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providers. If a woman is, I would say I lean more on the traditional side. I think women who want a
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more traditional dynamic, they would get that with me. I'm going to be taking care of everything.
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The woman, whoever I'm going to be with long-term, is never going to have to have a job.
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I'm not saying that's the only thing that I bring.
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And I think that that is, in terms of my, I'm not going to tell you how much I make a year, but I put myself in the top 1% of earners.
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So some women are going to view that as a value proposition.
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I think in other dimensions, I'm not a drug addict, I don't do drugs, I don't smoke, I don't drink, unless somebody pops a ball of champagne.
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So, I think a lot of women, so I agree with you, I think that sobriety ought to be a baseline.
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But how many people have drinking problems, how many people have drug problems?
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If it is the case that, say, women are encountering when they're dating, say 50% of men either have a drinking problem, a drug problem, they smoke cigarettes, maybe we can collapse all those into one thing, like people who use substances.
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I don't know what the percentage is, but I think it might be the majority of men, maybe not alcoholics, but perhaps men who drink more than they ought to.
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Now, this might not be a big value proposition for a woman who drinks alcohol, but for a woman who doesn't drink alcohol, who also is more.
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And when I say sober, it's not like I used to be an alcoholic.
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I've never been interested in drugs, never had a drug problem, never did drugs.
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Smoked weed a couple times in high school, but it's been a long time.
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If somebody pops a ball of champagne here, I'll have like this much.
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so that might not be a huge thing but some women might value that in the sense that
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i'm not like going out to bars and clubs some women might value that not all women um but yeah
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i barely drink um the only time i do drink is when i'm on the show uh i don't have other forms
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of addictions like i don't play video games again i used to addiction no no in a relationship i don't
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watch porn at all i don't follow girls on instagram i'm not like this is a complaint that i do hear
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from some women now you might say well this is very baseline stuff with you and i do agree i
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think it should be the baseline men should not be like following instagram thoughts and shouldn't
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they shouldn't be like liking girls and gooning to women over instagram but not coming with sophie
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rain what's that wait what have a baby with sophie rain that was an april april fools thing i posted
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that was an ai generated photo but uh i was about to go off on you boy that is fucking insane yeah
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I mean, you know, I might do it for the bag, but probably not, though.
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So you watch porn when you're not in a relationship?
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I think generally speaking, I would say generally speaking, whether you're in a relationship
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or not, men should move towards as minimal or no porn consumption as possible.
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but look if you know you you're gonna you're not in a relationship you want to bust a nut or
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whatever you need a a little release you watch porn for 30 minutes i think the harm is the harm
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is i think there is a degree of like the there is to porn can be detrimental and is detrimental to
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a degree it is well uh are you from the individual from a consumption perspective i would say like
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Okay, you go out once a month and have, like, a beer with a friend.
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That's different than the person that's binge drinking every single day.
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So the person who's, like, porn addicted and it's, like, impacting their relationship.
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But the guy who's single and he watches porn, like, for 30 minutes, like, two or three times a week.
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It's having some impact, but I think it's a bit overstated.
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Like, I don't think he's, like, gigafucked in the brain.
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I think it perhaps can have some degree of detrimental
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Zero porn when you're in a relationship with a girl
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I don't know the only scenario I could think of
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not that I would even if she wanted to do this she wanted me to watch her like the nude she sent
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me while she's in the room either fucking me or giving me head or something but even then it's
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like that's kind of but like you would want that you would you would want that no I don't desire
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that but you she was saying if the woman wants it yeah what happens if the woman's like I want
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to spice it up a little let's watch something no I don't want to watch another dude on there is
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of a waste to do that so what porn do you watch then big labia porn so you don't watch a guy
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fucking another girl uh generally not i prefer so like when the woman solo typically yeah that
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that's not common i'm not into the well you know it's actually interesting um some of the more
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like degenerate well it's all degenerate but some of the more extreme pornography women are actually
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more so than men consume like violent porn women are the primary consumers of violent porn rough
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porn rough sex but uh that's insane is that an actual statistic yes it is there is a study that
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shows that when it comes to porn consumption women uh uh maybe it's per capita women consume
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more per capita of violent porn than do men in the u.s i don't know this i don't know this i
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I don't know the specific geography, but it's probably the United States.
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Okay, what else do I bring to the table, though?
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I'm not much of a gooner in the sense of, like, porn consumption.
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i think this is a value proposition that women can appreciate uh not liking girls photos on
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instagram don't give a fuck about that uh i'm very i i do want to have a family have kids
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so if a woman's i mean that's pretty i mean i feel like that's maybe we put that aside though
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because uh i mean that's kind of duh how old are you now 36 okay and you don't have a family or
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I don't reveal my relationship status on the show.
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For safety, security reasons, just because I get death threats and I'm very private about my private relationship.
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Well, you should accept that from the women also speaking.
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When they have a value of not wanting to put something out there.
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difference well one I think uh I think the difference is I'm I'm I'm engaging in the
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conversation but I I there's a component of interview where it's like yes I'll share my
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perspective but I'm trying to get information from you guys right like this is almost episode
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300 it's like okay well let's just talk about Brian's dating life for the 300th time not the
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most interesting thing I think um but also I think my I have a higher threat level than pretty much
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all the women here collectively um i get like i'm probably more controversial than all of you
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i have a bigger platform than all of you i'm not saying that's a brag just i say it as a
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matter of fact um and that comes with certain security risks death threats etc of course
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stalkers so i am a bit private like i could have had a girlfriend for you know the first two years
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i was doing the show nobody would ever know i don't talk about it they don't come on the show
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so um i remember you said you were on bumble for a short period of time yeah are you still
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on bumble now oh i haven't been on dating apps since like 20 early mid 2023 so about three years
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right okay three years four years three years have you been taken since then or been in a
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you've been taken dating i've been dating and here and there i've had some relations so now
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Can't answer that question, but I've had relationships throughout the course of...
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No, I've had girlfriends of varying lengths throughout the course of the podcast,
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Even when I became single again, not on any dating apps.
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Well, I've taken an IQ test and above average, but if you value intelligence, but I don't know.
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I think in some capacities, like I don't think I'm perfect.
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Perhaps modesty might be one of the things I bring in some ways.
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I believe I have a degree of humbleness and modesty.
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Overall, though, I think I have, aside from sometimes I am self-aware to a degree, I sometimes get frustrated easily and can at moments have a temper, although that's mostly related to the show, not so much when I'm in a relationship.
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I'm actually, although I'm quite high conflict on the show, I'm actually in relationships, quite low conflict.
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I'm very, I don't want to like argue with my girlfriend.
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And I'm in relationships like most of most of the long term relationships I've had have been very low conflict or no conflict, very minimal disputes or arguments.
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I don't like the toxic element of relationships.
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So you might not believe it, given how I can sometimes be a bit much.
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But so I do say that I have my head on fairly straight.
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Well we'll just go off that for now and then move on
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you know oh um let's see i mean i'm not scared of spiders that that's an important one uh yeah
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i'll take care of that i do think that uh when it comes to protecting like obviously the household
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i do have i am a bit security minded so you know if we're talking about firearms or but i do think
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when it comes to protecting women it's not just strictly you're a big buff guy and you're going
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to beat somebody up, I think there's a degree of protection that relates to protecting the
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relationship, protecting your girlfriend or your wife, and protecting your children from threats
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beyond just of physical threats. I believe that in society, there are threats of mind,
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threats of spirit, political threats, ideological threats, that as a man, you need to be aware of
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So you can navigate, uh, you can navigate things.
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So it's like, okay, uh, sometimes some parents can be hands off.
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And if you send your kid to public school, oh, they go to the therapist, the woke therapist
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at the school, uh, the psychologist for some reason or another, and they want to trans
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I think a man has a duty to protect his family and his kids from not letting the school system
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so like a spiritual intellectual protection and i i like to think i at least from my perspective
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my worldview is superior to like for example people who'd be okay like letting their kids
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transition you need to protect your child from the system that would enable uh and sometimes you
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might even have to if that means fucking maybe your girlfriend is like i mean not that i would
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ever date like a soy lib or whatever but like maybe this was more the case five ten years ago
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i could see a guy dating a woman and his wife or whatever is like oh uh you know i don't know
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all these celebrities are transing their kid oh uh megan fox all her she's got like three kids
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they're all trans what no if you're the man you're like no like if i was dating if i was married to
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woman and she wanted to trans the kids i'm like okay divorce i'm gonna fight you in the i'm gonna
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fight you in the court system maybe that's why she's got more than one baby daddy well no but
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but so like would you pay for the first date though for what but having multiple baby doesn't
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mean anything if you think she's a potential would you pay for the first date yes if i vetted the
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woman i'm taking care of everything i'm taking care of everything of course do you think the
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plus or maybe maybe under i don't i don't know what your preference is probably late 20s 20 but
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26 and under are that their world view is absolutely different to what your world view
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would be do you think brian would date somebody that's 26 and under just like your general opinion
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do you think he would date somebody i mean since his status since his status and his money has
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increased yeah i think he would but their world view but he has to compromise his worldview for
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their worldview well if he wants to continue dating them i don't think he'd take someone
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serious that's under 26 yeah i agree well no i completely disagree so i think that when it comes
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to agreement on worldview uh like for example there could be a 36 year old woman who's like
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giga liberal uh super super lib super woke super democrat meanwhile there could be a 20 year old
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woman who is conservative who agrees with me on my various positions so this idea that just because
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it's a younger woman, she's going to disagree with them on my worldview. I don't think that's
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necessarily the case. Absolutely. I agree with that. But also that's a hypothetical majority
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of women are delusional when it comes to men's perspective on women, especially younger women.
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I'm not saying the variety, but I'm saying the majority of women are delusional when it comes
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to men's worldview on women. Well, I just wouldn't. So if there's a disagreement of worldview, but
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she's otherwise good looking and like younger if it's such a like I don't think I could like I
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wouldn't date a feminist so yeah if there's a difference in worldview I wouldn't date that
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particular younger woman but if she matches my worldview and she's like 23 or whatever you might
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say wow that's a big age gap right but I if she if I otherwise find her attractive and I feel like
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it's a good fit and she she wants to date me i mean younger women have higher sexual market value
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so i understand that reasoning for why you would date a younger woman but majority of younger women
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don't have that worldview so if her looks were at you know top tier but her worldview and her
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morals were you know below or lower tier would you still date her um i mean my preference would
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ideally to be when I meet somebody that she has, look, I think you're not going to agree on every
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single thing, but I, you know, maybe we're aiming for 80, 90% agreement on certain things.
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And then I think I can make a compelling, uh, you know, I could perhaps influence her
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perspectives on things. Maybe, you know, look, I don't think, I don't think it immediately has
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to be a deal breaker. If a woman is just like, I think some people are brainwashed and they have
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to be unplugged and woken up. So it's like, okay, this woman might have a perspective. Now, look,
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if she's steadfast in it and she's like, Brian, I don't care. I'm never changing my opinion.
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I'm onto the next one. But if she seems open-minded and maybe she like a lot of people,
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when you talk about politics with somebody, a lot of people have very, very superficial, shallow
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understanding of things. Like, so like a 20, 22, 23, 24 year old woman, you know, she might have
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perspective that is like the mainstream narrative that she could perhaps change now would it be my
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preference that she's just already based to begin with yes but i think there can be a degree of
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like oh have you thought about this perspective molding why do you think that not like not molding
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necessarily in a good way i'm sure so so would you compromise your morals for a good looking hot
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chick what do you mean by compromise my morals so say if she's a liberal that believes in you know
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feminist rights not not uh to the extent that you would say that is you know excessive but
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she's a feminist to an extent but would you compromise your morals in a way that she thinks
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okay women should have x y and z and women should be entitled to x y and z men should pay off for
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the first date but you know she believes that you know men should have a certain outlook on life
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So your dating pool is secluded to a certain time.
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I mean, I think that, you know, there are many fish in the pond.
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So this idea, like there's a lot of beautiful women and not all of those beautiful women, but a good amount of them are going to have a strong alignment or close alignment with my perspective.
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And I would choose from that pool of women.
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I don't feel like it's not some situation where, well, only the liberal women are really hot and all the like more conservative or trad women are just ugly.
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Now, if somebody has, like, if perhaps somebody can, like, but I guess to get to the center of it, if she's a liberal feminist, no, like, yeah, she's good looking.
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So the core is you wouldn't date a liberal, but you would date a conservative.
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What about if a conservative isn't high on if a man is a misogynist or not?
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uh what she she's what she's a feminist or what do you mean i wouldn't say she's a total feminist
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but she does hold some feminist views would you still view with that because as you said
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previously that you don't date feminists sometimes sometimes i i look at a woman and i think i can
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fix her however however she's going to i mean look i think through conversation sometimes you
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can and this could be it doesn't even have to be someone you're dating it could be a friend
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it could be a family member you could perhaps through your rhetoric and your ability you could
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present to them a convincing argument that might make them change their position they're like i
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never thought of it that way and in which case then that's you know it's not like an immediate
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necessary deal breaker but again i would say pick from the pool of people that are kind of already
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there but if she's a feminist depending on the severity for me i don't want to date a feminist
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so you would date a you would date a feminist depending on severity and she has to be broke
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what are you digging hold on what are you digging for like it's i'm digging for gold right now like
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i'm trying to see what you're doing are you trying to be like gotcha brian you would date
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a feminist no i'm just interested i'm just interested because so generally speaking i
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would say um no i would not date a feminist now okay like it depends though like what specifically
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are we talking about like what it's such a gender roles paying on the first day what would that have
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to do with feminism but feminism feminism is aligned with traditional moral values you know
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in in a in a dating aspect modern feminism feminism is not about traditional it's about
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dating it's about voting it's about what what women are entitled to yes it is about that
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no they're all about just because you scream it louder and you can sleep with whoever you want
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but i'm talking about it yes i understand that but i'm talking about in a dating it's not
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traditional i'm talking about in a dating i remembered more of what i bring to the table
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i'm highly decisive very decisive uh very much know what i want very ambitious um so you care
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about ambitious women no no wait what no you just said that you do though no no i said what i bring
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to the table i was thinking more about what i bring to the table like i'm never going to be in
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a situation where a woman is like uh i don't know if you've ever had this experience and i don't know
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if some women some women care less than or care more about this is like the you ask your boyfriend
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uh hey what do you want to do for dinner he's like i don't know whatever you want babe some women are
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fine with that some women dislike that i know what i want to eat all the fucking time
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i'm not honestly i'm maybe i'm too far in the extreme i'm not you know sometimes i'm nice
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maybe like once a month i might be like what are you in the mood for otherwise i'm like this is
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what we're eating we're eating this that's not bad so i mean i know what i want okay i know what
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I wanted to interject something, though, here for everybody.
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As you're getting older, and Brian, you said a couple things that went right into place with this,
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And things you desire are maybe going to change.
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So everything's adapting in life as you're going along.
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You may get to be my age and be like, I don't have anybody I can date because I didn't find anybody yet.
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And definitely when it comes to dating, things like that, you might change some ideas that you have now in 10 years.
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It seems like there's a 10-year turnaround for these type of things.
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You could slightly adjust certain opinions, but not definitely completely change.
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So, you know, you have to be more inclusive to what you have around you.
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So if your standards are exclusively high, you have to kind of lower the bar to be able to actually have a partner or be able to have somebody that you'd connect with by the age of 50.
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I think you do not have to compromise on your values.
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Let me finish my thoughts before you keep interrupting.
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She was saying that, you know, as you get older, and it is true, as you get older, your dating prospects, your dating pool does tend to shrink.
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The quality of your potential partners tends to decrease over time.
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There is some discrepancy between men and women on this, a little bit, but yes, over time, you know, if you're a man at 50 and you're a woman at 50, like, it just gets, like, even in my 30s.
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like yes the dating pool like of the people kind of in your age group for women like the the the
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the keepers got kept so yeah like getting into your 30s gets a little harder getting into your
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40s gets a little harder as you get older yes so that is the case um your sexual market value
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correct yeah yeah right but so to your point you're asking like would i settle for a feminist
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uh yeah i don't think on these specific issues um i i you'd have to tell me what is the specific
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thing but generally speaking no i would want a woman who's like has pretty close alignment uh
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on like most things there can be some degree of leeway on certain things i don't know like for
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example i don't and it can be maybe minimal things too i don't really like um certain kinds of food
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and if she likes that kind of food like okay i don't really care okay it's not going to affect
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how you raise children yeah these are these are kind of like more minor things yeah but like i
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think foundational things like politics you should not date somebody who you politically disagree
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with you know there could be one or two things okay she she like wants free health care i mean
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some people might have issues with this like she's like you know what i'd be okay with free
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health care and i'm like maybe not but it's like you could probably date somebody who has like
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perhaps you have economic disagreements or whatever um but like on certain social issues
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uh and like dynamics of the relationship yeah uh you're gonna clash heads i don't think it's
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gonna work if you have the means for a privatized health can you scoot your mic to the edge of the
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table if you have means for privatized health care then there's no reason for her to want to
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have free health care because as you said initially when you're dating in the space
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then you should be wanting uh to look at that projection to marriage to be together for a long
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time so why would she want to have free health care when you have privatized health care and
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then you guys as a collective should want to have a combined health care which obviously you can
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provide for, that is the free health, that is privatized healthcare. So that shouldn't really
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matter too much. When people are talking about free healthcare, they're not talking about
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wanting, well, I mean, sometimes it can be, they want the free healthcare too,
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but they're typically making like macro level society wide prescriptions about how they want
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free healthcare for everyone. So like, for example, you could be wealthy, but also believe that
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there should be degrees of social safety nets for the broader population even if you're a billionaire
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like i would never need this particular social safety net even as a say you know hypothetically
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someone's a billionaire um but they can recognize that not all people are billionaires therefore we
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should have some uh social uh safety nets for those who you know aren't as well off as me
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you're not into obamacare then okay hold on i gotta move on bro okay it's her podcast
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it's fucking her podcast here uh i was like we're talking about dating can you read this for me
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yeah one did oh brian atlas is sexy as bunnies with his raw confidence dominant energy and no
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bullshit attitude he's successful and stays brutally honest while keeping it entertaining
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and real i didn't know bunnies were sexy it got the the program like changes curse words so it
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says sexy as fuck oh i was like bunny it changed it to bunnies i guess all right sexy as f
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my clippers you're gonna clip greta saying that no and uh and then i'm gonna use that on my my uh
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resume uh show pictures from when i'm younger uh okay fuck it pull my instagram you know look i'm
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a tub of lard now i'm a little chubby you know but i'm losing weight you know maybe i gotta hit
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the peptides who knows but um maybe hey pull up pull up my instagram pull up young young brine
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you know i was i was like a scroll down scroll to the very bottom i wasn't terrible you know i was
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like a solid six didn't you used to do like prank videos before you yeah whatever what's that picture
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there were you a rapper wait scroll down before he went viral you know i was like he was he was
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where where are we pull up that super chat too please and then i'll have we were talking about
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fatness i'll get oh yes we're talking about being fat um gretel read this please okay when did it
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become commonplace for women to wear lingerie as regular clothing wasn't it traditional for that
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to only be for the bedroom how about we start not having your t and a out for everyone to see
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if you want him to pay for the date what is a t and a this like reminds me of when my grandparents
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It was just like a silken, like it was pretty modest, but they were like, oh, it's lingerie.
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That was such a fucking late soundboard click.
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okay uh x at brian atlas uh follow me there uh follow my cat oh it's so cute uh yep that's
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I'm the founder of the nonprofit and grassroots movement, Big Labia Matter, or BLM for short,
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because all labia can't matter until Big Labia Matter.
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As someone who only dates women with large labia, this is kind of like an important thing for me.
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You know, there's like all kinds of stuff going on.
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There's, like, deportations, immigration, Ukraine, Venezuela, Iran, Middle East conflicts.
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Like, that's all distractions from, like, the 10,000 labiaplasties a year in the USA alone.
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Inflation, the economy, shit is fucked, right?
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But, like, that's the big thing, is the labiaplasty.
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What's your favorite labia to be associated with?
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uh so yeah um it's not a deal breaker if a woman doesn't have an audi like i'll still
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i'll still date a woman who but you know kind of like how women and short guys
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how short men have to make up for it like a woman who doesn't have an audi she has to make up for it
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how does she do that i don't know she's like your dating pool must be so fucking small it's tough
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out here you know it's tough out here you're single well i'll get into that in just a moment
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but i would say it's kind of like look she baseline she has to cook a steak but what the
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fuck greta you dropping shit like she's got to be able to cook a steak but like if she has an
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innie she has to be like michelin star level steak must be humping your pillow on a day-to-day
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because fuck me that is i don't know there's a lot of women out there with with innies or excuse
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Sometimes we still watch too much porn, I'm not gonna lie.
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Do women have like genitalial preferences?
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So, like, does a woman have to watch porn to prefer, like, a man who doesn't have a micropenis?
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What percentage of men have micropenises, though?
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Well, it could be, like, women could just prefer a guy who's a bit bigger as opposed to average.
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You said some women could prefer men who have micropenises.
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i mean you know what on the first date that matters the most like i must be a joy to date
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huh you must be a joy today oh i definitely am more than you 100 more than her yeah
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absolutely you were saying about you know what i should do you know what i should do i've been
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thinking about doing this as a new not a segment but a new a new format i should do like one-on-one
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dates on the show and live stream them. And that would be fun. I mean, people have been doing that
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before. I should do that. And that'd be anyways, anyways, that's besides the point. Let me finish
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the intro, the intro, please. Oh my goodness. But one, one thing I do bring to the table is I do
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think a lot of women who have Audis, a lot of them are a little self-conscious about it. You know,
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they're a little, they think men don't like it. Maybe they've had a boyfriend or a guy make
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comments or they've heard men make comments roast beef meaty arby's uh beef curtains wizard sleeve
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and i'm you know that song uh baby got back by sir mix a lot no you come on baby got back no i'm
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not that old how what the fuck that's like an all-time classic what you want don't worry wait
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can you take your applesauce hey uh tiffany come grab her applesauce off the table can i get water
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to? Tiffany, water for these people over here. Yeah, so it's like, I think that's a value
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proposition. That's a value proposition for a woman who has an Audi. She knows like, oh,
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this guy's all about the Audis. She's going to be like, there's going to be more of an affinity
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there because she's like, he likes what I'm working with as opposed to it being like perhaps
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a source of potential insecurity like it's just a non non-issue for them so boom what i bring to
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the table why you're so obsessed what i bring what i bring to the table audi respecter audi
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enjoyer audi appreciator yeah so innies you're not into innies then no it's not a deal breaker
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but they have to make up for it okay but you had to mention outies just to like for your brand right
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for for the brand yeah yeah no it's just a genuine it's actually a genuine preference
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you find it more like attractive yeah i prefer it yeah uh so anyways back to this guys if you
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can't catch the full shows we have a clips channel link is in the description uh we have a discord
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and you're watching right now shoot me a dm we're hiring for some stuff uh okay so back to the show
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very delayed very fucking delayed uh fatness oh as the topic yeah oh yeah i mean there's
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gonna be super quick thing so i'm i think this right um what do you guys think about the fat
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acceptance movement i don't think it's a thing anymore honestly they still have conventions
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like there's still invention i want to talk about that i think as a formerly extremely fat person
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skinniness has got it's almost gotten like too out of hand like the like the culture of like
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trying to be super skinny like you see the celebrities they look like they're dying
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it's got nothing to do with the fatness it's because they're like what they're doing is
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focusing on the vanity and not the health of it exactly yeah because i i've lost uh over 100
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pounds and my focus was never like i want to be skinny my focus was like my knees fucking
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hurt i can't move my arms because my boobs are so fucking big that i can't move i can't breathe
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and people's people are focusing on the vanity of like how to be skinny and beautiful as opposed
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to be like how to be healthy yeah um and once that mindset changed like it just shaved off on
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its own it just started doing it all on itself a thousand percent i don't even think being super
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skinny is like attractive either like it's all it's all like i don't know exactly what it is but
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Like, I feel like having, like, a little bit of muscle, a little bit of fat on you is definitely more attractive.
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Well, I think women should have a little bit of fat because we hold the babies.
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If you go to Poland, I don't think you see a lot of fat people, right?
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i can assure you you're i mean the the the even size of cloves and zara and so on i was fat in
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thailand you were fat in thailand talking about i definitely was i actually went to warsaw about
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10 years ago that's where i'm from i did not see any fat people it was crazy yeah in poland so
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anyways uh but the fat acceptance thing because i you know i say this as someone who is a little
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chunky at the moment and uh who is a little plump you know a little fluffy and accepted amongst men
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in violence but not women i see but i was thinking about this as a phenomenon and the difference
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like because i have a degree of self-awareness about it and i like but i can even though i am
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currently in the state of being overweight i know for example like and i can say it makes me less
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attractive. In general, it makes other people less attractive, but it makes me specifically
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less physically attractive. Um, it's less healthy. It, uh, has a negative impact on my dating
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prospects. And I think men have a higher degree of self-awareness on this specific topic.
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Whereas from women, there seems to be not even for just from overweight women,
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but even skinny women on the behalf of overweight women do a cope and the cope is you're still
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beautiful you're still deserving uh you are still beautiful at any size that's actually
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disrespectful towards that woman and i think that i like from my perspective it's not like
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like i acknowledge that it is a deficiency on my on my behalf like it's something i should work on
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And I would never say, no, I need, I should stay like this. I should get fatter. I should
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not try to improve. I'm aware that it is a deficiency. It's, um, I look worse because of
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it, but there does seem to be a palpable difference between that and what women do when they're
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overweight, which is the cope, which is like, I genuinely think like they're not all fat women,
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but i think fat women will say oh this doesn't have an impact on my dating prospects it's like
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no it definitely has an impact on your dating prospects you would be assessed as more attractive
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if you lost weight you'd have better dating prospects but women want to do this thing where
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they like don't want to acknowledge it i don't know why anyways i'm gonna get up for a moment
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but please discuss your thoughts well i think it's because men will still fuck a fat woman
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I would get a lot of fucking sex when I was really big
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I would choose Brian any day over a guy who's super bony
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My ex-husband was, you know, bigger than Brian.
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And women have been enabling that to one another, saying you look amazing, you know.
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I hold it well, but I was, when I was really fat, I was really sad.
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I do still have some fat and some extra skin in a lot of places.
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because I would cry but I saw pictures of myself in my brother's wedding and I started crying
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excess like I was not the same person yes yes I didn't use any medication I didn't I
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no it was more like fuck I I'm too fucking old for this shit and too young for this shit at the
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same time and I had a boyfriend who was fucking being a feeder he was feeding me okay but you are
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a great example to women these days because you took it into your own hands and you don't condone
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it and you're not being delusional no a lot of women are being delusional even when you see
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plus size models who are not plus size models they are extremely obese they post pictures online
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and then but it is a fetish for some men too it really is what i'm going with this is you have
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women posting in the comments oh my god babe you look amazing while they don't think that really
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they don't think they look amazing they would never want to look the same way and it is just
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enabling women to think oh my god so many people are saying i look amazing therefore i should carry
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on i feel like that's mostly u.s women though i don't see that in european uh instagram i do
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i don't see that in european prospects i i see that in mostly u.s women's chats i see that in
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you what's your connection to european instagrams though because i'm from i'm from the uk i'm from
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london okay and people are very upfront definitely absolutely okay so i do see people doing that in
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uk i don't i grew up in london as well so i do see people doing that i even have friends that
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maybe that maybe that was the forums that you're in you might be a little bit older than i am
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but how old are you i'm 25 for years is not that much it's it's a little bit older i can't like
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okay but it is i i haven't seen women and men encouraging fat bodied women men don't do that
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from my perspective as a person who's overweight
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if you were fat you would see the amount of men who fetishize us
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For people, just because it's not in your experience
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Out of curiosity, where in UK are you from exactly?
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what do you mean make sense for your attitude and the way you talk so what so what what that
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i'm more in front and i'm not i'm more capable of deterring what you're saying is that it no i'm
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you what you want you sound like you're from brixton you want me to be a pick me bitch like
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no i'm not ladies ladies and you look in the comments men will agree but you care more about
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speaking over me, so obviously I'm going to want to say
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Fetishes for heavier women are real things
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I don't think there's quite as many obese, obese people like there are that can't get up, can't walk, have so many health issues.
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They're putting all of this money and time into them getting taken care of, coming from our taxpayers' dollars.
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I still want to lose some more for my knees.
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But these women that they're feeding, I knew a woman who went, she used to be tiny, and her husband was a chef.
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And men are insecure, and then they're feeding people too.
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And then you get guys also, and women, that are also wanting to control the situation and dominate everything.
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A feeder can't feed you if you're not also addicted to food and having some health issues.
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yes so like it's it's it's still my responsibility regardless of him feeding me because i didn't have
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the the confidence or the boundaries to say no to that she came she lost weight then and it was
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great yeah so like it's not fully on him and how long were you guys together four years that was
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my longest relationship yeah i have a hot take okay never mind let's hear it okay i think that
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guys don't really like skinny women like sexually attracted to them i think that they
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If somebody's talking to you, then they're probably
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Of course, it could be whatever, whatever.
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Oh, T-minus two hours until I'm on the most infinite Insol podcast ever.
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Okay, so that's what we're talking about with the sidebars.
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When I say no sidebars, that also just means saying irrelevant shit that doesn't fucking matter.
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The fact that she mispronounced it is immaterial to the conversation.
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You need not even allow anything to exit your mouth so as to disrupt our audio.
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So, again, we repeatedly told you, one person speaking at a time.
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And when she asked me about the time, I just went like that, but she said she couldn't.
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Please be fucking silent when somebody else is talking
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You don't need to whisper even to yourself
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Don't speak unless it is material to the conversation
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so I'm echoing their frustrations due to all the crosstalk please if it is not material
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important to the conversation keep it to yourself be quiet one person speaking at a time
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go ahead oh why I posted that story not why you posted it but there's a couple things to
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I guess dive into there yeah so you're doing a this is a sort of typical I don't know what the
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right term is if it's a passive aggressive thing where women do when they get uh i guess
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called out on something uh where they will walk back their position because they're not prepared
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to actually make a defense oh i didn't mean to say that i didn't mean to say that about you i
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wasn't talking about you so pull it back up again so we can have the have the record show most
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infamous incel podcast ever now you didn't write that i'm going on the perhaps the most infamous
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podcast with an incel audience incel podcast would suggest that the podcast itself uh is incel not
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just the audience uh viewers or the members or whatever uh so there's two claims there that it's
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infamous and then it's uh incel well i'm not going to even going to really dispute you on the infamy
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part uh i might just be willing to grant that the podcast is controversial i don't step away from
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that. But where I would like to engage you on is the incel part. So what does incel mean?
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So it initially started as a term for involuntarily celibate, but it's kind of
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evolved into its own word to describe, I feel like mostly frustrated men online who attack women.
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So, okay. But you do acknowledge that the origination of the term and like words do
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have meanings. So can I ask you a question? I'm not going to say it just because of YouTube TOS.
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Um, would you make this same defense? So, um, are you familiar with the F slur as it relates to
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gay people? Yeah. So you would agree that this, in the same way people use incel, they oftentimes
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use it not to actually describe somebody who's involuntarily celibate, but somebody who you
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disagree with or you dislike that guy's an incel. I don't like him. Right. So you must certainly be
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fine with people using the F slur, uh, to call, you know, when people use the F slur, it's not to
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actually be homophobic it's simply to call someone stupid right and you're fine with that
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I do you want to say the word do you want to say the f-slur well I think you would get banned right
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now but are you fine are you fine with the f-slur I don't say that word but are you fine with the
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f-slur if it's not towards like a gay person in a derogatory way then yeah like it's fine like
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people use it in conversation just like they say the r-word nowadays like yeah okay so when you say
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that the podcast is incel what are you trying to communicate i am well number one i post a lot of
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loaded things on tiktok on instagram because it gets engagement and it's kind of like satire i'm
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over exaggerating yes i understand that like you want to there's like hyperbole and you want to
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okay i get that the hyperbole is that i think a lot of especially on instagram a lot of people
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that know me like i was invited on this podcast very long ago and people are like don't go on it
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don't go on it it's bad for your image it's kind of a hyperbole i guess almost to defend myself
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for going on this podcast to be completely honest this seems like a bit of a mott and bailey where
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it's forward an argument that is more objectionable and then retreat back to a more defensible position
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So in this case, you're saying, well, it was hyperbole.
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Well, when I say incel, it's just something I disagree with or that is speaking about men who are just sort of generally frustrated with dating and not necessarily about like true incels who are like actually involuntarily celibate.
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So I can really only engage with you on like what words actually mean.
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So from my perspective, I am aware that people use incel as a sort of, they don't use it.
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But incel to me has an actual definition, which means like somebody who's involuntarily celibate and who like typically struggles severely with dating.
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And these are almost, women can't be incel.
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so could it be the case say you were to start a podcast and if i had sex more recently than you
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did yeah that it might actually be you who has the incel podcast given that you haven't had sex
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in like a year and a half which is yeah kind of a long time yeah i think that's valid although
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it's not involuntary to be charitable though it's not that you can't get sex like you could probably
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fuck a guy tonight if you're so inclined it's more so that uh so you're not strictly incel
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because you could get laid tonight if you wanted to but you also haven't fucked in a year and a
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half so the accusation of incel though seems a bit uh interesting to me okay that's valid
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okay so why is the podcast infamous then because there are a lot of hot takes that the general
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population disagrees with okay right what do you disagree with
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i mean i haven't watched a ton of clips but i think like
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it's mostly the audience like if i were to read chat right now i think i would really disagree
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with a lot i can't really try to think of an example like for example on my tiktok comments
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people will be like oh she has a body count that's over two like she's a whore i think that
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that's like ridiculous to think that is anyone actually saying that oh yeah people say that all
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the time well i mean you could so hold on you could go on pretty much any live streamer yeah
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yeah streamers live stream look at their chat and it's going to be uh live stream chat is kind of
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known for being and that's an incel thing toxic what do you mean to say oh she's a whore she has
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a body count of two three why would well i believe uh no i don't think that would necessarily be an
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incel take no they're bigots how would that wouldn't even be bigoted but um no it wouldn't
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be it's not inherently incel to slut shame that's not incel like you could highly promiscuous men
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will slut shame that could be a preference definition of incel right is what i guess like
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i would actually genuinely sympathize with someone who's like genuinely involuntarily
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celibate a thousand percent but my my like perception of incel is someone who like hates
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women like becomes frustrated because that's what exactly what it gradually became and that's the
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old age definition you know what's actually funny about that is that uh actually it's men who are
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major players and who fuck a lot of women i would argue that they have more misogynistic
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viewpoints on women than do the guys who struggle to date women but they're not online right they're
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not online i don't think they're online like i mean red pillars they're what are everywhere like
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i don't think they're watching like podcasts like i think they have a life if men who fuck a bunch
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of women yeah no no men i mean i think there's i think there's a wide i think there's a wide
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amount of variety in terms of the people who will consume various content you can have anywhere from
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like playboys who will watch varying kinds of content to guys who struggle with dating watching
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certain kinds of content so there's a lot of jesters who will pretend to be alpha males that
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consume red pill content they're not actual alpha males they are just gesturing as alpha males
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they're actually either incel celibate or you know they get a few hookups here and there but
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they're not that guy they're usually dying for the attention of the woman that they're shaming
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well so you think back to hold on back to this so uh furthermore your assertion that the audience
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is incel so the audience is involuntarily celibate what's your evidence for that
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again i am using the new age definition of incel right like so misogynists yeah like okay
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I don't necessarily think you're a misogynist, but I think some of your takes can be a bit rage-bait-y.
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I think some people would, a lot of people would perceive it.
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A lot of the people that I, for example, went to college with, like, I went to college in Vermont, very, very liberal state, they would perceive you as a misogynist, a thousand percent.
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Me, I've been living in Texas for a while, I can understand some of your takes, but just, like...
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so what what would be misogynistic um traditional values traditional viewpoints
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your conservative views why is that misogynistic hold on i'm not saying it is i'm just saying
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people will perceive it that way they do perceive you like that in texas like bad
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i mean texas is very conservative yeah no it's more like uh are you the representative of all
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people yes yes i'm texas they sent me texas took a poll and they voted me as you did the door to
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door well so i'm more interested in not so much labels but what has earned the label so i'm looking
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for what are my positions or what have i said that is misogynistic but before we do that
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we need to be precise about our definitions what is a misogynist somebody who is bigoted against
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women okay so how about this uh someone who either hates women or who has prejudice i think
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towards women yeah but it could also just be hate yeah it could be hate right yeah okay what is your
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prejudice brian what's that what is your prejudice against women the what what is your hate towards
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women because then that's you would have to hate on something i don't hate women but i'm asking for
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for what what are the misogynistic takes that i have i haven't watched much of your but you said
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the traditional what yeah like traditional values um i think that i don't perceive it this way but
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like i know this podcast has had a lot of takes and kind of like degradation of girls in the like
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sex work industry and like i think people perceive that as misogynistic um i'm like blanking do you
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think women should have the right to vote that's a good question yeah sure yeah yeah well hold on
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let's before i answer that question i want to get a further list so you said degradation of sex
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workers yeah yeah uh anything else i guess like the the jokes about like not being able to vote
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the jokes about like i don't make those jokes hey you did you made one earlier that was a comparison
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it wasn't really a joke and like oh i don't listen to women speak like that one you said women shouldn't
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be able to vote i don't think that was no i think you just made a comparison it was like when did
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they say that hypothetical give me the context what was the context i don't remember the context
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i just know this is the gaslighting women do you're completely misremembering
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what you said is if you take no stop stop i got it i asked you were saying something along the
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lines of when we were talking about traditional gender roles and men paying for dates i asked
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you the question if women should be able to vote that isn't a prescriptive claim that's not true
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that's literally you want to you can play what did i say what did i say you tell me what i said
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you said women shouldn't be able to vote you're fucking retarded that's not fucking true that's
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not true i never said that i never said women no i didn't say how much cash do you have on you
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let's fucking bet i don't have any cash on me but i would bet you how much thousand dollars
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So your claim is that I said women shouldn't vote
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Even if I'm right, she's not going to fucking pay me
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I did not say women should not be able to vote.
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I asked, should women be able to vote in the context of a conversation about unfairness
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That's, I don't know, let's open it up to the panel.
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For those who recall that conversation, what do you guys think?
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I also remember you saying, like, I don't listen to women, like, speak or something.
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The reason you're making the joke is because that kind of appeals to your audience.
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I think if you were serious, this podcast is proof of why women shouldn't vote.
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By the way, it's obviously a joke because I spent seven, eight, nine hours listening to women.
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Although sometimes during when people are saying their intros, I miss certain details.
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In any case, in my Discord, here's what I need.
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For those, if somebody in the Discord can go back, rewind the tape, did not say that.
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Of course, that's the sort of slanderous thing that you can expect from a woman.
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Definitely never made the claim that women shouldn't vote.
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Asking a question is not the same thing as having the position.
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okay congratulations back to this what are the misogynistic things that i believe or say
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okay i think that this is really rooted from my viral tiktoks that you took several months ago
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and you posted on twitter and they're absolutely viral and it wasn't you but your audience
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commented some of the most misogynistic things i've ever heard in my life what was the tiktok
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um the first one was like i was like oh like i was at the grocery store and i looked a guy up
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and down and he like looked like he was scared we will play the tip but so i would love to see it
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but so you have to understand the x algorithm i had like i don't know if i posted on my main
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thing or my like brian atlas probably at the time i had like 20 000 followers when you get in the x
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algorithm the majority of people who see that aren't even following you so it's not my audience
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but in any case you'd have to actually present like some sort of evidence like i i completely
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contest this idea that like my audience is just a bunch of incels like how can you actually where
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is the proof for that where's the evidence the comments on that video and the hinge video but
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okay so andrew would you agree that andrew tate has made misogynistic comments okay but hold on
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so andrew tate full-on misogynist right and he he's made similar comments to the people that
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leave comments on my videos do you think andrew tate has difficulty getting laid
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but he's a different tier to you right but the idea that if you leave negative comment that that
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somehow means that you are thus incapable like if you leave a misogynistic comment you must be an
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incel no like actually the reality is it's the playboys who probably have like the more
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objectionable perspectives on women than the guys who like you know kind of struggle a bit to date
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all the way to incels but anyways what about me though what about me is misogynistic or what i've
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said that's misogynistic i'm not saying that i think you're misogynistic i just think given
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the audience that you have people perceive you that way people perceive you that way because of
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my audience who they don't know anything about and they don't but like for example when i saw
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those comments and i didn't know that the x algorithm works that way that like that was so
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bad that was so bad so well yeah i mean comments on that well i i don't think it was actually that
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bad but on x especially twitter is pretty toxic i'll give you that but you can go on any social
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media platform you could play video you could be a video game streamer you could be a woman who
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makes like does makeup tutorials you're gonna get bad comments like this is this has been known
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about youtube for a really long time the comment section is bad like the comment sections are bad
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personally i don't even think my comment section is all that bad though to be honest but maybe i'm
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just i've been doing youtube since 2012 i mean maybe i'm just i have thick skin i don't know
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but ultimately um comments really aren't all that bad and that's that's the internet landscape
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like you probably do some video about i don't know whatever something totally benign that's
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inoffensive and it's like neutral and you probably get nasty comments on stuff where you're talking
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about i don't know fucking disney or some shit can we for a minute go back to the andrew tate
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conversation because it's very surprising to me that the two of you who are in marketing in one
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way or the other do you think andrew tate is famous because he really thinks what he says or
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do you think he's famous because he says what he says for a shock he's famous because he's a rage
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beta that's it great so that's that so you just this chavez donated 200 stop confusing misogyny
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with patriarchy brian asks the right questions the guests just can't handle the truth so they
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resort to gaslighting and word games you're so right oh my god you're so facts uh okay here
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let's go to this um okay so there was a couple claims that i heard uh the the trad perspective
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is misogynistic i'm not saying that i'm saying people no that's what you said though no no no
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i said i was very clear people perceive that as misogynistic do you do you think it's misogynistic
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i specifically said i don't think that that's perspectives yeah i was very clear about that
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i don't know if you guys oh no you've been saying that it's so okay um there was something about the
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degradation supposedly of the sex workers that's misogynistic
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again i think people perceive it as misogynistic i do what so if i say
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i i close doors i do think that sex work is is bad but i also think like a lot of the girls that
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come on this podcast that are on of they're not even it's not even the same thing as like what
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the porn industry was right it's like it's an entirely different thing now than it was before
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I don't know if you guys know this but people just like sell like half nude pictures on OnlyFans
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sometimes just like bikini pictures right but they don't get paid as much though it's also men
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on there though it's not just women yes we should also criticize the men who who enable this thing
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to be however uh I think the criticism can be laid at the feet of both men and women
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the consumers and the producers yeah yeah it wouldn't be misogynistic to be anti-sex work
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that's not misogynistic yeah because there's male sex workers in the industry right yeah you'd
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probably most people who are like against sex work are probably like across the board but look also
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the majority of sex workers are women um but i don't think it's misogynistic to be anti-sex work
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um that's just your preference sex work when i tell people when i told people that i know i told
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a lot of people oh i'm going on this podcast yeah they're like that's the insult misogynist
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podcast like that's what people perceive it as so that's why i said that because it's like a joke
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it's like i'm repeating back what people said to me but that's that's people's perception of this
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i'm not saying that it's necessarily true perceptions be incorrect yeah and like now
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that i'm on here i'm like this is a lot like less extreme than i thought it was going to be
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it's biased yeah okay uh so i mean again though i still haven't quite arrived at anything on the
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misogyny thing something somebody brought something up a bit ago oh women voting i think
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you're you're kind of like deriving a false like i kind of explained exactly what my point was with
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this story and and you're like turning it into something else like i never said that
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you're misogynistic i'm not calling you misogynistic well misogynistic podcast
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owner host i didn't say i said incel podcast oh excuse me well you said incels are misogynist
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i mean i said you're misogynistic but you're you're going on okay so okay then moving off of
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you why am i a misogynist or misogynistic i actually i really don't think you're misogynistic
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i think you're perceived as a misogynist because of your views and like your questions i'm perceived
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yeah you are perceived as a misogynist but you are perceived that when someone is easily biased
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or just like enraged your questions can be extremely triggering and i think that like
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they target you as someone that they could take that rage out on because you ask the questions
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about the patriarchy or like um they take it as if you're supporting those views rather than
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asking okay well i'll quickly address the voting rights thing uh so here's my position on voting
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rights so and it's nuanced it's not just completely like it's not white or black so the
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current status quo is that women have the right to vote without any duty to the united states
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they don't have any duty and you see this not just in the united states but in other countries too
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women don't have any responsibilities that can be mandated by the government and so i believe women
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should be able to maintain the right to vote, but we need to, and this could be either employed
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in a completely equal way, which I don't think pragmatically would work, or it could be implemented
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in an equitable way, which still would benefit women. It would be having women in a privileged
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position. So when it comes to military conscription, men have a duty to the United States.
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men can be conscripted. There's the draft, right? Whereas women have no such duty. In order for men
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to be able to vote, they are subject to military conscription. And so for this reason, my current
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position is, I'm not saying we should get rid of women's right to vote. I'm saying there needs to
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be an equality that is created so that um that that kind of brings men and women uh either
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equitably or equally at the same place so equality would dictate that women have to be drafted in the
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military or at least subject to it and also technically they have to be not just to the
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military but they can also face frontline combat now i disagree with that well hold on
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Hold on. However, practically speaking, when it comes to the lethality of the military, which is the sort of purpose of the military, that's the telos of the military, to be lethal, like to be effective, women in combat positions are very much ineffective.
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So how do we balance equality between men and women, but also balancing the biological reality that women don't have the same capacity, generally speaking, as men, to be as effective soldiers?
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We can't use equality because we are two different beings, and you can't put a man and a woman together and try and make them equal physically.
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you can't. However, if we're going to have equal rights, there ought to be a corresponding equal
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responsibility. Women have no duties. Women have no responsibilities in the same way that men do.
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And thus, I do think it could be argued. Now, my position is not, let's strip the rights away
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from women. I'm not arguing that. I'm saying, how do we level, not level up, but how do we
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bring women to match men's duty and so that could be the equality position which is to some degree
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contrary to the purpose of like the the effectiveness of the military but for the sake of
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equality which seems to be exalted over many things that could be an argument that's made
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the second thing is perhaps there's an equitable thing which might say well we we recognize that
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women are ineffective combat soldiers. Thus, perhaps we don't draft them into the military,
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but perhaps in the same way that men could reasonably be drafted, women could be forced
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to do some sort of civil service for the country. Women would be forced to do something. Now this
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still, I think, it approaches a degree of equity. It still isn't the same sacrifice, of course,
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that men give for the vote which is to sacrifice your life which is to risk life and limb to risk
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your body your mental well-being your life even um it's not even anywhere comparable so even then
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but that would be a sort of a equity uh solution uh me personally as a feminist i've i'm very much
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in favor of sending women to the front lines uh what what are you fucking doing i'm raising my
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hand so you so that means if you're if you want if you want women to be on the front lines that
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that basically means that more or less you agree with transgenderism over me i i no i'm not agreeing
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with transgenderism but it was your turn to go okay if a guy was drafted into the military and
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he had like a college degree in computer science i guarantee you he wouldn't be like fighting the
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front line unless we were in a crazy war so i think that women that's not necessarily true
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I think that women can still be in the military without being combat soldiers.
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So women can volunteer, and they're obviously in the military.
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Not every person who is in the military is in a combat role.
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There's obviously, like, in order to field a combat soldier, you're going to need cooks.
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You're going to need like, uh, you know, paper pushers, pencil pushers, whatever.
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There are roles in the military, even that men occupy that are not combat roles.
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That could be, I mean, when I said civil service, that could be essentially, yeah, there's,
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they're technically soldiers in the military, but they're, they're cooks or they're, you
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know, I don't know what the, they're handling inventory.
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There are roles in the military that they can occupy, but the current status quo is not
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even in the event of a draft would women even be subject to that and still even if we even if we
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were to make that that ground work that women could be drafted but practically speaking it
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would only be for obviously for support roles that still puts women at a privileged position
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where it's like well yeah but the men who get drafted your male counterparts they could
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potentially die that still seems like it's unfair in the grand scheme of things so then you still
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then have to question men have a greater potential sacrificial duty than do women that's unfair
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how do we reconcile that with an equality in the vote when it comes to the draft though like
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there are so many men who wouldn't even be qualified for the draft because they have
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depression they have anxiety they have um some sort of mental health diagnosis right like every
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other person's getting diagnosed with autism nowadays and like if you if you have that right
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does that mean you shouldn't be able to vote if you have depression should you not be able to vote
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well so men men are of the the essence to be subject to it so i agree with you even when men
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go and volunteer some men are going to be rejected from even the volunteer military because they
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don't meet the uh requisite criteria for being accepted whether it's either physical things
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mental illness or sometimes you're just fucking you're low iq i think i don't know if it's for
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i think there is a point where your iq is so low they don't want you in the military
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uh so there is that retarded or something right i guess yeah if you're retarded um
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now i i think that uh that still doesn't change the fact though so then you could have a separate
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argument, which is, well, of the men, then, who would be deemed to not be capable of being even
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drafted, then I suppose there could be a secondary conversation of, well, should even they have
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some right to vote? So there's a secondary conversation there. But you'd have to grant
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that there is a proportion of the male population that is of the capacity to be drafted
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uh thus those men uniquely from a gendered lens men not all men but men uniquely have this
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potential risk that women don't men have a duty men have a responsibility women do not
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i think that it would be valid to have women be like sign up open up open themselves up for a
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draft where they would be trained in some sort of skill set like whether that's a cook whether
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that's a nurse whether that's a scientist or a strategist or whatever that is I think that's a
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valid argument I think that like that's okay I don't think women just shouldn't be able to vote
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I think that if women could be of support to the country in a safe way but you're still not that's
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the point you're still not risking your life so therefore it's not equal their life if you are
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going to military and if you're going to be drafted to a war more than likely you are risking
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risking your life so it's still not equal that's the point there's a lot of engineers in the
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military there's a lot of there's not that many people at combat you think that there's we're
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talking about the minority so well look here's my final position we need to equalize the draft
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women should if we're going to keep the vote for women women should be drafted for the sake of
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equality, which seems to be the sort of social and cultural zeitgeist of desirability. Equality
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overall. Equality supersedes, right? Ooh, yikes. That's a major yikes, whatever just happened there.
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you gotta minimize it i don't know what okay um all right so uh yeah so however if we as a society
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come to a determination like say a final determination on this topic i guess where
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we say under no circumstances should women ever have a duty no government mandated duty
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then i think actually uh revoking women's right to vote then that's fair to be on the table
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then it's justified however that's again this is why it's a nuanced answer that's not my first
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position but if y'all are like no i don't think women should be drafted okay then get rid of the
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right to vote for women then so you have to ask yourself am i more of the feminist because i want
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equality or are the women who want women to have a privilege are they the one who don't believe in
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equality that's what you have but you can also give the argument that said okay women should be
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drafted women are equal but then again you can say okay so women are able to be transgender because
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women are equal and women have the same body archetypes and uh body architecture what does
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this have to do with trans people i can't serve in the military i'm uh well that i don't know how
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that's that's material but uh yeah i'm the trans thing is ridiculous i don't know no i don't think
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it is because you said women are equal women have the same body types women should be drafted
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women are not you said women are equal to men right that's not what i said not about body
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Clearly women – wait, I even said that men are – men have a biological advantage.
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Women do not have equal endurance, generally speaking.
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So why should they be in the military then?
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What does having the right to vote equate to women being in the military, fighting, combat?
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What does combat equal to being able to vote?
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Yeah, so one, because women can vote on war.
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So they can send men to a war that men don't want to fight.
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And women don't face any actual primary repercussions from that.
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But to address your thing, men and women are clearly not physically equal.
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what i was saying was society exalts equality society desires and wants equality between men
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and women so the reality is on a physical level men and women are not equal men are stronger than
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women generally speaking i would argue i'm stronger than the average oh my god i would
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argue that me in particular just no you are not stronger i can leg press 650 pounds oh my gosh
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yeah i maybe not my upper body but my lower body women actually have really strong lower you are
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not stronger than the average man how about this i'm stronger than some men sure i totally i can
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agree to that i'm like six feet tall i can like some beta males so okay hold on hold on the
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contention here of course there are definitely women who are stronger than some men yeah i'm
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speaking in general it's not the average yes generally like but i would say like the majority
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of women are stronger than the majority of men it's not like 60 40 that is definitely true it's
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not 60 40 hold on hold on physically stop that women are stronger than men no men are
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the differential is not it's like 60 40 split it's like 95 percent of men are stronger than
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all women basically like that's the difference right yeah so it's like in general but it's very
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much to the extreme where it's like i don't know if you've seen these viral videos where you'll have
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like you'll have like average joe versus female bodybuilder and the average joes scorch them
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you'll have dwarves outlifting like professional bodybuilder women uh so so there's all kinds of
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scenarios even if you handicap and disadvantage the men as much as possible they still oftentimes
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will out compete the women you see this in sports for example soccer like the 15 year old boys
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really quick on that so look i believe pragmatically practically speaking so you're
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saying basically if a woman hits a man then the man should be able to hit back yeah that's what
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you're saying so um if a little boy like a little guy like a short guy no i'm not talking about that
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no i'm not talking about that that's not for the appearance just like any guy yeah so i mean
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really quick on that i would say that uh as a man you put yourself in peril even if from a legal
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perspective you are like doing self-defense the woman hit you first i believe there's a degree of
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obviously a self-defense justification there is a um if a woman slaps you
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fair game however however i don't think you should as a man for a few reasons
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uh like you should just not hit back you should extract yourself from the situation
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um and yeah because like there's definitely situations where a man the woman's the aggressor
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and the man hits her back and say it happens in public the people don't see that the woman
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was being the aggressor other men see that he's going to get curb stomped or it could be you're
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you're in a dv situation in your house your your girlfriend's fucking abusive you like you don't
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even have to hit her back she could just call the cops uh yeah my boyfriend was beating me up
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they come and like oftentimes there is bias when it comes to these situations the cops are going
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to fucking arrest the boyfriend who is the victim and so i think even though there's a self-defense
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argument. There's like a, Hey, I would warn women though. Me personally, I would just not do
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anything. And I'd try to, if, if a girl ever laid hands on me, if I was dating her, it's immediately
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over. Extract yourself from that situation. You should never tolerate someone laying hands on
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you. Of course, self-defense situation. That's different. Then you can defend yourself. Uh,
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but, uh, where was I fucking going with this? I don't even know. Um, I think I was just saying,
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oh women uh i don't think you women should feel like you're in a privileged position where
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like if you hit a man he shouldn't hit you back but don't be surprised if he does
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like don't play the victim if you hit a man and he hits you back
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are you fucking retarded were you listening to anything i just said
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restrain a woman from hitting him like i think it's like appropriate to like
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is she just not listening to an extent as a man but most men probably like i just some men don't
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care i just no but i just wanted to say in circumstance in certain circumstances would
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you hit a woman if it got to that you just answered that for the last five minutes i'm
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speaking to him i literally you know it's so funny i caveated that like i preambled that
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entire convo and she's like so you would hit you'd hit a woman so how about this are there
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certain circumstances like a life or limb self-defense situation where like it wasn't just
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a woman slapped me but she was like coming at me repeatedly yeah i could understand that uh yeah i
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would like use necessary force to stop the threat yeah now if a woman like slapped me i would be
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very like that i was dating i would be taken aback let's say she's at my house or whatever
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i'd tell her to leave i'm like okay it's over leave that's it now if she's continuously coming
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at me i'm gonna try to restrain her maybe i grab her arms what are you fucking doing stop
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uh now if she's really coming at me and it becomes like then she's gonna get fucked up
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okay like if she's really like if she's trying to fucking kill me i need to incapacitate her
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to stop the threat i need to stop the threat that's highly unlikely though i mean i mean some
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girls i was gonna say i wouldn't want to get a fight with women can use weapons women can get
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a knife from the kitchen women can do all like women can do all kinds of things if she pepper
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sprayed you what would you do uh i don't know i'd be blind as well i don't know i mean i don't know
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but um yeah ultimately though it's like it's a bad situation to be in um like you i think it's
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terrible situation to ever be in any sort of physical anything even if something as small
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as a slap like that's the end of the relationship it's over it's over that's understandable
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uh damn bro this this girl's looking for something she's like all right let me get a
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clip of him saying he'd fuck women up like i just want to know i'm interested like this is a debate
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it's an open debate I just want to know your thoughts. Yeah but it's kind of bad faith when I
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like I give a preamble and I'm like no like don't hit women blah blah blah like all this
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so you would hit women though right? Yeah but you're saying don't hit women and then you're
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giving circumstances and then those circumstances can kind of be open to okay maybe you might be
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able to hit a woman in this certain circumstance. So I'm saying okay so would you hit a woman then
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in all circumstances that you mentioned? Do you think there are any circumstances where a man
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can hit a woman when your life is at risk yes when your life is at risk okay your life is at
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risk okay so what what about if um your life isn't at risk but she's continuously assaulting you
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then you're a beta male that well so what if she's trying to punch you in the face
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and like you would agree that a broken nose isn't necessarily putting your life at risk
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So I can see a woman punching, but then he can dodge the hits and say, listen, stop, stop, stop.
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But there is a degree if you're trying to, like, restrain somebody, you're going to have to use a level of force that might result in, like, an injury to them.
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So he should restrain her, then knuckle punch her.
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like but the thing is like also women will flail so it's like okay you restrain her then she
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fucking headbutts you it's like great so it's like look this is a terrible situation to be in
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um and i i think men should try to like hopefully you like my advice to men is
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they're a woman generally speaking who is inclined to domestic violence it usually isn't going to
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start like it's not going to be she's just like the first thing she does isn't going to be a full
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blown fight but there are going to be red flags like she kind of like if she if she hits you in
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the stomach or something that's a that could be a sign like sometimes girls will playfully do it
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but it's a bit like hard and you're like oh so i do think but i mean a woman could slap right
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if a woman slaps you there's your red flag it's over not just a red flag it's a deal breaker
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if a woman slaps you it's going to get more violent you need to end that relationship
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immediately do you think you're good at first impressions with women
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do i think i'm good with what do you mean do i make a good first impression or can i detect
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can you detect it from from another woman uh if she's violent yeah i mean that's attributed to
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her personality so when you meet somebody do you feel like you could make a good first impression
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you could detect a good first impression from you know second party i don't think i can necessarily
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i mean sometimes there can be signs however i don't think you can immediately like just going
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meeting somebody once i don't think you can immediately parse like okay if i date this
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person for like six months they're gonna domestically abuse me like they're gonna start
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DV-ing me I don't think you can always detect it immediately in the same way that women can't
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always detect when there's like this person could be like violent towards me down the road
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sometimes there are signs um I like to think I'm a decent judge of character um I tend to think
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that you can sometimes and it's not always accurate but I think you can sometimes see in
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the woman's demeanor if like maybe not violence but is she going to be toxic I tend to see like
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women who have like a gentle disposition are mostly unlikely to be like toxic down the road
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like if she had not all the time to be fair but women with like a more soft gentle disposition
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generally speaking you can infer good things from that it's not 100% guarantee people can mask
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people can put on their you know what is it called when the person is um they're a chameleon
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they're they're kind of yeah but uh yeah a true manipulator or abuser would say she so you
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shouldn't have a problem then with uh with abuse but it also starts with demeanor if you have an
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argument and the person is arguing and all up in your face that means okay well that's a red flag
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before you even slap me they're showing you the sign so it's time to back off true true but really
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quick here i do want to get back to the i mean i don't know if the panel wanted to weigh in on this
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uh the voting thing so any thoughts there from anyone else for women voting is that well yeah
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so i my position just to quickly reiterate is that i don't think we should get rid of women's
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right to vote but i do think we need to bring women up to men's duty and responsibility which
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would be to uh equalize the draft even if that even if that would look something like uh you
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know women are going to be drafted into support roles that's at least better than the current
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place we are uh where women have like massive privilege over men and it's better than the
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current current status quo so but then if it's if we make a determination that it's not the case
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then i think that opens up the pathway to a serious conversation about getting rid of women's
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right to vote but if it's just women voting scoot your microphone to the edge of the table if it's
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just a woman being barely moved it do it again are you she's just intentionally just not no i'm
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actually not i'm trying to do my best okay so if it's just women being supportive in the draft
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and not actually being drafted on the front lines then i agree with that because in the 50s and when
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world war one was going on the 20s 40s whatever women were drafted not on the front lines but
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supportive roles like machinery and stuff like that so if it's something like that that's similar
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to those type of roles then yeah i do agree but women being on the front lines and fighting
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and in combat then no i don't agree i think feminism is when war starts who would try
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there would be trash in war i have like i would have i would just half women's votes
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And they're voting on emotion rather than logic
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i see things from perspective and then after i analyze that and i know exactly who i'm targeting
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so you for a fact you're definitely a woman who you you you give me pick me bitch vibes
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yeah absolutely yeah so what i'm saying is that if you're generalizing and think that oh okay all
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women are like you know emotional and they they just i think she didn't say oh she said i'm not
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speaking to you i'm speaking to her so if you think all women are emotional and they just i'm
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speaking to her okay no i'm glad when she's defending me i said not all you need a bit of
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defense i can see that but oh do i yeah nothing wrong with that yeah as i said i'm speaking to
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her so seemingly you need a bit of you know defense from you know who in it but as i'm saying
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that i don't actually need her defense i'm continuing my point do you want me to speak
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or do you want to keep well stop being condescending and use your logic instead of
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actually uh yeah so make sure you use fluoride you know what here we're gonna do um we're gonna
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do zero oops zero women you do not give me like pick me back i'm not what you said was a little
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bit no it's actually very logical like we go through emotional stages naturally like it's
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in our biology to go through emotional stages and it's natural in us as women wait it was for her
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it is actually biological that we are more emotional
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why should we make decisions of the people who are shooting the guns
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So it has to be when we're on our, sorry, go ahead, go ahead.
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That's why I also was kind of the same aspect when it comes to, like, making a woman president.
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That was a big controversy a few years ago because of the presidency.
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But I feel like, I feel like in the military, as we did, we did actually, the person who was like, oh, they didn't get drafted.
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We were actually made to take over all of the other jobs in the U.S.
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so they didn't get drafted no i guess technically but she's technically right we were made to do
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that so if we reverted back to something like that i think that would be great because you know
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what majority of janitors are men so women can take over the janitorial jobs while they go to
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the draft regardless you know xyz i don't want to go on an oil rig though so some of them got
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to stay but other than that my players go ahead um i think it was iceland iceland was the only
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country pretty much in the western world to survive the economic crash of like what was it 2007
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I was I was like three years old um but it was because they had more women in finance and because
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women were I guess more emotional they were more intuitive and they were able to they were able to
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prevent that and I'm not saying that the entire government should be run by women but I think
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women have insight that men don't so having both having both genders being able to vote having both
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genders being able to be in politics is like great it's awesome it's a balance it's an intuition
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women are a lot more like wait what sorry that was that was that was loaded that was loaded i mean
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women can uh women can bleed women can shoot guns so so they can also serve in the military i guess
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but um what is the insight that the woman could arrive at that a man couldn't i think men in
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general making a generalization here but they're a lot more like money driven a lot more economy
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driven whereas women are a little bit more humanitarian they care about kind of the general
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population more um and yeah i mean i don't know if i totally agree with that um is it if do women
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actually care about their civilization their nation their neighbors some do so what i mean
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by that is so you might say that women are more empathetic in the sense that um let's keep it on
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split for a bit you're you're alluding to female empathy is that correct yeah yeah so women are
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empathetic to immigrants for example illegal immigrants and you might say that this is the
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insight that women have uh that they have this this greater capacity for for empathy for people
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who, look, may very well have, their life circumstances would be better living in the
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United States. And who's to stop someone from pursuing a better life, right? Who are these
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evil men to stop people from illegally coming into the country? However, we have to think about
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our citizenry, and ourselves, and our neighbors, and our fellow citizens, essentially. And if it
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is the case that men actually have a better uh affinity or grasp for not just the the well-being
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of all macro individuals but the what it actually takes to have a thriving society within the
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confines of a nation or uh from the civilian perspective the civilian or not the civilians
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the citizens of the united states women may very well be empathetic towards the plight of illegal
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immigrants, but I think it's actually men who have more empathy for the plights of the nation
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and the people of the nation and the citizens of the nation to whom I think we owe a greater duty
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to than the, uh, not to say that I have any, any animosity towards the people who, um, towards
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people who are illegal immigrants. I wish the best for everyone, but perhaps they can pursue
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their uh their better life in their nation in their own nation and perhaps even the united
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states being uh being quite prosperous as it is can perhaps help neighboring nations or other
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nations to prosper also whether that's through guidance or even sometimes investment i'm okay
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with that i'm okay with the united states helping out other nations because we are prosperous and
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we are frankly um we even if it's just intellectual knowledge like okay here's how you can build like
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this certain infrastructure or whatever that's great but i do think it's women who seem to be
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like okay open the floodgates to the invaders well two things here i think for that so is that is
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that actually empathy or is it men who have empathy because for example would you do you
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kill spiders yeah you do okay well i lived in australia and i'm in texas there's a lot of
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spiders unfortunately because i do think women are like no don't kill the spider but i don't
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want the spiders to bite our children i don't want sometimes the men have to act as the men who
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have to do this necessary thing that makes women feel bad to protect the interior and that's men's
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duty i have um two points to this i think the first one is especially like when it comes to
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immigration if we were to take both perspectives right I think that the combination of both like
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we should not have we should protect our citizens but also like if someone is in a violent war right
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they should there should be a program that maybe we could help them out especially if they're going
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to contribute to our society if like maybe not having ICE agents like breaking down doors and
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causing chaos in society maybe that would be a good idea but also like people from other countries
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who come here just because the U.S. dollar is a little bit better and then they come and work and
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send money back to their family like maybe maybe they shouldn't necessarily have have a place
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in America right like we combine both perspectives also like when you think about America I lived in
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Australia there's a lot more women in government there if there's some people here from Europe
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in these countries where there's more women in government like the homelessness issue in america
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is ridiculous i didn't i saw one homeless person in australia right like there is not the same type
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of poverty that there is in the u.s like maybe their economy isn't thriving but people are at
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a much equal more equal level and if you were to average out the quality of life in these other
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countries it's a lot better than the u.s like you haven't seen the homeless as you haven't seen
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wait hold on wait yeah well of course i'm getting on a tangent well hold on yeah of course yeah
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there's homelessness is an issue in the united states and the united states has certain unique
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characteristics about itself that that that mean that there are going to be uh perhaps
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circumstances in the united states that are more unique to the united states but from a prosperity
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perspective like even living in the poorest state in the United States like if you live in I don't
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know if it's like Alabama or Mississippi or Oklahoma something like that the GDP in like
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the poorest state like I don't know if it's again let's just say it's Alabama Alabama like you if
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you were to map Alabama into a country in Europe it would essentially be like it would be better
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than germany i think it'd be better better than germany better than france better than all these
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countries so this idea that like the united states it's like really bad here actually economically
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we're doing far better economically in the united states even in poor states supposedly
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than like the best countries in europe you look at germany for example this is exactly this is
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exactly the point i'm trying to make right you're thinking about the economy and that's really
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important i'm thinking about the quality of life i'm thinking about people that are suffering like
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Alabama is so poor people are living in trailer parks they're all obese because they don't even
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have education about food like it's not a good quality of life thinking about the actual people
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there's there's people living in poverty in Australia there's trailer parks in Australia
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but they're not nearly as common because they do have social programs there to help people out who
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are really poor they don't have like homelessness I like encountered one homeless person right so
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even if it's the case right so okay even if it's the case that there are certain things also you
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have to realize like these nations are not like quite as large and uh diverse as the United States
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is uh the United States has very unique well I feel like we're getting off topic here a little
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bit like getting into uh like the economy of Australia I don't know sorry but I'm just trying
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to say like there's different you have a different perspective than I do right uh yeah but like okay
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let's talk about illegal immigration then so like are you in favor of illegal immigration I'm not
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know unless so should we deport them yes but i don't think i i don't think ice as an institution
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is appropriate but yes i do believe what does that mean i like they're violent like they're
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causing chaos in communities they're like scaring people right like they're making families feel
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unsafe what about the riots citizens have you been to the riots you can't have your riots are right
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either you can't it's in response to the riots it's in response to defending because it's gotten
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so violent because of the riots it's not ice starting right i saw a video of burlington
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freaking vermont of an ice agent pushing over a pregnant woman who was not involved in it she
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was there she probably shouldn't have been there but you pushed over a pregnant woman and walked
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away no one helped her you saw a video okay so just to be clear your position is so even if i'm
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prepared like i'm sure you could show me videos and i could be like yeah that's police misconduct
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So I'm not here to defend genuine instances of police brutality or police misconduct.
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If you can point me to an instance or a video where they're doing something wrong, I agree with you.
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However, I don't think you need to completely get rid of the enforcement arm.
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She said it's not appropriate because some of the stuff that they've been doing is inappropriate.
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Yeah. So just because certain ICE officers have either through provocation, a lot of these instances aren't just like, hmm, I'm just going to go like police brutality somebody today.
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There's like mass amounts of like political push. There's people in the streets rioting. They are provocateurs.
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Now, look, even if you're being provoked, the police have a duty to like still not like infringe upon anybody.
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But again, if there is instances where these ICE officers are engaging in misconduct or brutality, they should be penalized, they should be fired, and if it gets into the realm of it's so bad that it's criminal, then they should be prosecuted.
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However, the central mission of ICE is to enforce the immigration laws in the United States and generally to deport genuine illegal immigrants.
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So I don't think we can map on the bad behavior of some ICE officers on all enforcement officers.
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I'm happy to stand by you and rebuke ICE officers who are acting inappropriately.
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They should be in trouble, they should be fired, in some cases criminally prosecuted, if it reaches into that level of a criminal act, right?
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We definitely can't dismantle the mechanism by which we deport people.
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and also like the the protesters are creating a what's the best way to frame this the protesters
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are creating a landscape which has the temperature really high and it's like you also have to realize
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um i don't know if you've ever do you ever watch body cam videos of like not ice but like police
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police arresting people like i've seen i saw this video the other day a police officer pulled over
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a black woman and he gave her 50 warnings to step out of the car before and she was just being like
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incoherent and like arguing and just completely um unhinged basically and before he ever laid
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hands on her he gave her fifth something like 50 uh lawful commands turn your car off she like
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initially she like he pulled her over he stopped her and then she actually sped away he got in his
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car chased her down again he and legally a officer can ask you to step out of the vehicle that's
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that's lawful she refused to do it uh and then he had to eventually after 50 warnings after being
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very patient they tased her they had to try to pull her out she wasn't complying she was being
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completely erratic so it's like in any sort of law enforcement situation people are not acting
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rationally they're very emotional they realistically if an officer uh is detaining you
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you're not going to be able to verbally convince them out of it maybe they're wrong and maybe you
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can pursue that in the court system but if an officer says you're detained enough if an officer
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says you're under arrest it's a like you can beat the rap but you can't beat the ride you're getting
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arrested you might you may as well comply and in this case uh you you have people like and by the
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way we gave warning to all these illegal immigrants trump's coming into office voluntarily deport
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so how do we if people won't voluntarily do it and they don't want to leave you would agree
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like if somebody is running away from a police officer should the police and they've committed
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the crime should the police officer be like well he wasn't compliant with my attempt to arrest him
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i'm just going to let him go or does that necessitate an escalation in force in order to
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facilitate an arrest yes i i do agree and i i think that ice officers should be held to the
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same standards that normal policemen are held to they are which hasn't really been showing itself
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um i i was talking to my dad about this and you can fact check this i'm not sure if it's 100 true
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but he told me that like if an illegal immigrant is charged with like a very minor crime or like
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they don't really commit the crime but the cops are called on them they like don't get deported
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from that like that's not like if they like they just don't provide documentation or they don't
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ask for documentation like that and like that's that would be a great way to start deporting
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people that deserve to be deported right if the cops are called on them for domestic violence or
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for a traffic violation they should have to provide documentation now you're getting rid of people that
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deserve to be i guess deported first at least and then i mean i don't disagree if if regular
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police officers through the course of you know investigating a given crime this person happens
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to be an illegal immigrant uh i mean yes why not but i don't know how that's isn't that not
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Letting them get off easy if they just go back to their country
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You know what, I guess, wait, here, really quick.
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who here thinks that, like, the deportations are wrong?
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Depends on what kind of crime you're committing.
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But if people are in transit of getting their papers,
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I think that they inappropriately detain people.
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And also in recent events, I just read an article that was talking about how they deport them to not even their hometown, to their home country.
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So it's like you're separating families, you're putting them in cages.
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And this cousin, Mexican cousin, who's not a citizen,
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Technically, this falls under the definition of ripping families apart.
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You would agree, though, that they should not deport the legal American citizen.
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So this technically would fall under the criteria of ripping the family apart.
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So what do we mean, really, when we're talking about separating families?
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If there's a member of a family who's a legal citizen and they would not be subject to deportation, perhaps they can, if their entire family is going back to Mexico, perhaps they can voluntarily go back to Mexico to be with their deported family.
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But this idea that, wow, we're separating families.
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If you're an illegal immigrant here in the United States, like I don't get it.
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If I go to Japan, and I knock up a big titty, big labia Japanese chick, and I have a kid with her, and I stay there illegally in Japan, that's my family right, do you object to Japan deporting me?
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Do you feel that you have a right to get citizenship?
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There perhaps is a pathway to citizenship, but my current status—
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Do you agree that the pathway here is not difficult and takes up to 15 years?
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If you're here illegally, then there's the issue.
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Okay, so where's the cutoff in that process?
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Yes, you're completely 100% right about the Obama ministry was starting with the ICE, having the cages.
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Second of all, I'm obviously talking about the children that are here.
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When they're born here, they're citizens, right?
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Wait, wait, wait. So where do we put, so, okay, you do realize when you get arrested for a crime, you are put in jail. And that is, there are bars. It is a jail. It is a cage.
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if you've seen like even if you're a citizen you get arrested for something especially in like a
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big populated city you get into put in a holding cell with like i mean i've seen these video like
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these you know going into jail documentaries there's like your shoulder to shoulder with
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people in there sometimes and the the processing thing or whatever i don't know the exact terminology
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okay that would be the same application for should we just let them like these illegal
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immigrants who were trying to deport should they just like be roaming free that's not what i said
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are you are you a trump we're just talking about the brutality i'm talking about exactly what i'm
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saying is so you're a trump support just because they have that authority doesn't make them ethical
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that's what i'm saying you're good you're comparing people who came here to have a better life
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differences that we can make, but you're targeting
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other solutions and other pathways to a solution.
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in there for the kids. If you want to put that family in there,
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people separate, not sending people to the
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So, okay, what you're talking about, my understanding, that is not the majority of people who are getting deported.
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Now, I think you're overstating the number of people who are getting sent to a different country than their origin.
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This could potentially be because they're lying about their country of origin.
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But I'm happy to agree with you that, you know, if you're a Mexican national, then you should not be deported to an African country.
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If that is in fact happening, I think perhaps there are instances of it.
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Of the hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions of deportations that do occur, they are sending the people, 99.99% of them, they are being sent to their country of origin.
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So we're resorting to this appeal to an extreme thing here.
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But question for you, if I can point you to an illegal immigrant who, let's say he has no family here, so he's not being ripped from his family, and he's being deported.
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Sustain themselves. That's not our responsibility.
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That's not our responsibility. If they have a life
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are indigenous but if we aren't and somebody back then did the same thing which they have been
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throughout the years and then we wanted to change it and we wanted to make it a better place and
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make america great why is it that the way that we're doing it is not trying to make sure that
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we're keeping that human decency and respect because you guys were talking about it about
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dating you guys are still not you're completely different when it comes to having them live and
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eat and drink food and water that doesn't make any sense so you want common decency so i can let
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you know if i had sex two nights ago but you don't have common decency to make sure that they're
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living and well where they're being sent what does that have to do may i have someone that
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doesn't make sense i see what you're trying to say but the thing is mate i see what you're trying
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to say but these people have been pre-warned that this is going to be happening so this is not a
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surprise this is not a girl coming on a date where she's gonna fuck someone else an hour later this
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is not the same type of common decency this is just about they've been warned they knew it's
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going to happen so don't be surprised when it happens you're here illegally doing something
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that's wrong that's it someone comes into my house and i don't want them there and they can't
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survive without me helping them i don't care they're in my house even if they've lived majority
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here like you still agree like they've been if i may yeah go ahead basically uh deportation needs
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to happen people should not be in the countries they are not legally supposed to be in i don't
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who you are. I don't care if you committed a crime.
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should definitely be out. That's a crime in itself.
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why we all came to america like our ancestors came to america why are there so many illegals
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in this country we're not talking about the uk we're talking about the u.s right now
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okay why are there so many illegals in this country because it's the best country in the
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world because it's the best country in the world and why are they allowed to come here
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and why have they not allowed that's the thing actually the ice is showing that they've been
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here for such a long time. There are people that
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letter to the government for going out late and if i did this too many times or even the first time
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they could tell me i can't come back there for five years doesn't matter if i have family doesn't
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matter if i have pets there doesn't matter if i have a life there so why are we in america giving
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these things to more and more people to come here disrespect us and our countries our taxpayer dollars
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and then why are we bringing these people in here and when you go out on a date with someone if we
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can bring it back to topic of dating then how do you know you're not dating an illegal how do you
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know you're not dating someone who doesn't belong it doesn't matter why they need to go i would date
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an illegal done so you want them gone but you date you are illegal yeah let's make things go ahead
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go ahead babe you can use the deportation as just the reason why so many people are coming or have
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come to america is because we weren't strict about immigration so why aren't you upset like like we
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should have been enforcing that the whole time yes that's why they're coming here they're also
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coming here because the U.S. like I agree a lot of people live in beautiful places there's a lot
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of beautiful areas to live in and say Mexico but the U.S. dollar is so valuable that like they
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might send one of their younger sons to come to America work send their money back home like in
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those cases yes I agree with deportation and I think we need to be stricter about it going forward
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we need to enforce visas there isn't reasons to believe in it for one reason or a few reasons
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You're going to pull up the first message, you're going to make it full screen
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not saying that shit. She owes me $100. Shark. All right. And then just play from the beginning
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and go full screen with the video. Full screen. Make sure you're full screen with the video
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first. Like the video. Do you have it? Okay. Yeah. What people deserve. Listen, life's
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not fair yeah okay so should we take away women's right to vote okay should we question mark should
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we take away women's right to vote not we should take you're implying it though you're implying it
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that's not yes you are you're implying it no do you know the difference between um how do i explain
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this to you yeah how do you do you think that if you ask someone should we do this thing does that
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mean that you co-sign the thing that you're asking them to do no but it seems like you're
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implying it if you're putting it out there then you're implying that wouldn't it wouldn't be
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implied absolutely it wouldn't be implied yes it would okay um if i ask if i were to ask you um
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should um and don't put some pseudo-intellectual like metaphor that like that stupid like just
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Actually, you know what, I guess a couple things here.
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We have some disagreements on the immigration thing.
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Just really quick, so okay, you seem a bit on the fence about it.
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No, I was an immigrant in the United Kingdom, but legal immigrants.
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Anybody here, maybe not an immigrant, but your parents maybe were immigrants?
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My dad was from Holland, my mom was from Mexico, and they both came here legally.
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okay so you're part like european part mexican yes okay all right i have a question on this
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actually which i think is interesting uh let's see and are you trying to become a u.s citizen or no
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no i have no interest okay you're just you're just visiting i see yes all right she's just
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visiting really quick question then we're going to move it back to uh dating um okay so i guess
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for you three um just because of the heritage right uh mexico el salvador and mexico okay
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question. In a morally neutral, blame-free hypothetical conflict between the United
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States and your birth, or excuse me, not your birth country, between the United States and
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the country of your background or your parents' birth country, whatever it may be. So in this
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case, Mexico for you, El Salvador, Mexico for you. Where neither country is right or wrong,
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to which country is your allegiance starting with you to mexico or the usa usa usa okay
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el salvador okay what about you yes okay all right there it is folks all right nothing to
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really argue about there then and i was just curious about that all right let's do everyone
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except the jews are allegiance to the u.s bro you're fucking goofy what are you
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I feel like Jews are in more allegiance to the U.S.
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And she can respond to you and you don't have to address that.
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because i watch other podcasts and i speak to other commentators i'm gonna pick me here's what
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i was about to move it yeah okay stop both of you stop i was about to move it on to something else
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we're gonna move it on to something else we have gorlack the destroyer here on a scale of zero to
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ten rate your own looks face body total and you can't pick seven starting with you okay um
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a face really quick let me uh can i say 6.9 so do it like this do it like this uh no halves
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okay no halves so say for example i'll give you how i would say it face 4.5 body 4.5
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total 4.5 is that for you for me yeah so you could and you don't have to be the same number
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you could be like face seven or actually don't say seven yeah face eight body nine total 8.5
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whatever something like that okay uh face six body nine total that would that would be total seven
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so wait you said five it would be 7.5 total so you said six face nine yeah okay so it would be
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it would technically be 7.5 overall i'll say overall um face 10 body 10 total 20 that's not
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how math works but okay. Divine feminine. Face like three, body maybe four, total 3.5. Okay. What
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about you? Can I rewrite her? No. Answer the question please. I'm making a joke. I know. I'm
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just trying to move things along because we'll be here all night otherwise. Yeah. Well I'd say
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face a closer to the mic please so closer sorry please uh face eight uh body six maybe 7.2 i put
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okay sure what about you i don't want to do all together eight so safe i have to do it like face
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and body and everything okay um body eight face eight and all together rating eight okay
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same thing eight face a body spirit 10 20 okay um i would say face eight um body six and then
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i would probably say let's balance seven okay face eight you said okay next um i would say face
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six body four so total five face six body four total five all right next and i would say face
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six, buddy six, total six. All right. Uh, interesting there. I disagree with quite a
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few of these ratings. No offense. Uh, are you going to rate us? What's that? Are you going
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to rate us? Yeah, I could do that. I'll rate you guys. Um, I'll do the ratings. A couple
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questions before I give my ratings though. Um, I do want to do a few things here. Uh,
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If you rate me low, I'm not going to be offended
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now i want when i do rate you guys even if i disagreed with you even if you've annoyed me to
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no end i will not be vindictive i will not rate you intentionally low i'm not gonna be like you're
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a one because you're annoying perhaps on the annoying scale you might be well a 10 i get well
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10 on the annoying scale i don't know i will not be vindictive i will not rate you lower in terms
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of your looks because i disagree with you i ask for the same uh what's the right word the same
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what is the word the same uh reciprocation i guess sure i asked for the same leeway
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uh so just rate me on your looks try to be unbiased even though maybe half of you hate me
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uh so just just on looks i'd love to have you stand and twirl because i don't
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take off the sweatshirt no i'm serious i don't really think you're fat you might be a little
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overweight well you're a little chunky or something yeah i mean i'm not obese but i'm
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definitely i'm a bit fat it's okay though thank you for the compliment i do the same thing i just
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uh but really quick so i'm i'm actually i'm not going to do you don't have to rate body let's
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just do face i'm not going to rate body either i'm just going to do face ratings uh i find body
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can be a bit more subjective than face but um so uh just give me a face rating out of zero to ten
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when you were younger i would have given you a little higher just i think you're a nice looking
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guy. There's nothing wrong with you. You know, he's a little
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all right. I think you're a bit high there, but sure.
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than me in looks, right? So I'm not going to pick on you too much, right? So you gave me, I think,
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a four, right? So you're an eight. You gave me a seven. Well, I figured I'm around a seven-ish.
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Well, you gave yourself an eight, but you gave yourself an eight. You gave me a five. You gave
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yourself an eight. You gave me a five. You gave yourself a six. You gave me a five. Now, the
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question here is for you for you for you and for you would you feel not factoring in other
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things right would you feel as if if we were dating from just a purely looks perspective
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that you would be perhaps slightly settling for me or perhaps even for you you only I'm one point
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off of you but for the rest of you I'm three points off of you well I'm one point off of you
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Would you feel as though you guys were settling on the looks front, starting with you, if we were to date?
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If you had a nice suit on and stuff, I'd be proud to be with you.
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Am I settling? I don't think there's such a thing.
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Well, you rated me lower, so it's almost assumed that you would be settling, looks-wise.
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No, because I go by the whole package. You can't label me.
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Well, just on the looks front, you would be settling, though.
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No, because I thought I was like a 7 overall, but if you wanted me to get a 7.2, I had to go.
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Do you feel you would be substantially settling for me?
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Not substantially, but, you know, it's about confidence and how you feel about yourself.
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And you have to, sometimes you have bad days, sometimes you have good days, and, you know, you just have to motivate yourself.
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to be proud of who you are and what you have i don't think that answers settling though i wouldn't
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be i mean i i wouldn't say i was settling for you but i would say that you're an eight you gave your
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hold on you gave yourself an eight face and you gave me a five uh face maybe i thought you had a
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good personality no i understand that but i'm just talking i'm just talking about looks so you would
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from the just purely the looks front you would feel as if you were settling um
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Just on the looks front you would be dating down
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But that doesn't make sense because on one hand
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Just if you were ugly, you're a terrible person
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I understand that there's a mismatch in personality
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can i interject one thing maybe i'm sorry but you know it's a dating podcast she she might not think
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your looks are that attractive to her so it wouldn't be trading down you're just not that
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attractive to to her so i i acknowledge attracted to you does that make sense well i acknowledge
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that there people have types for example like i i mean i'm i uh white asian latina but um i can see
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like a black woman and i could be like there are definitely black women who are more attractive
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than me even though like they're just objectively more attractive yeah uh well maybe i shouldn't
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say objective in the strict philosophical sense but that's besides the point but i can definitely
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there are definitely black women who are more attractive than are you attracted to black women
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though they're not my type uh some black women i find them attractive but um generally speaking i
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I'd say I have a preference for either white, Asian, or Latino women.
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However, like, for example, say, do you have a type in terms of race, like Latino men, or you date white guys?
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Like, for example, I believe a woman who only dates black guys could look at Brad Pitt when he was young and be like,
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well, he's not my type, I don't really like white guys, but he's a really handsome guy.
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Like, I'm sure plenty of black women would be like, yeah, he's, I prefer black men, but he's really handsome, right?
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So, and I guess to you, you said you're a six, I'm a five.
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It has to be assumed that you, I mean, you'd either have to bump me up, bump you down.
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Well, I think this is, I'll give you guys your ratings here in just a moment.
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So that's not going to define our official rating of what we feel about ourselves.
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Well, I think my opinion is probably more based in reality than you're perhaps biased.
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self-opinion. But I do think it is interesting. I think this is one of the issues when it comes
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to dating. And people often ask me, Brian, why do you ask the rating question? And I think it's
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a temperature check for where do women think they stand in the dating landscape, in the dating
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marketplace. So I do think it is the case, this is one of my positions, and perhaps you might think
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it's misogynist. Self-awareness is important. That I do think, generally speaking, not all
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women, of course, I think a lot of women tend to overestimate how attractive they are. And this
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can even go beyond looks. Some women think, wow, I have such a great personality and blah, blah,
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blah. Oftentimes, not even the case there. But there is a tendency, men do this too, to be fair.
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Men can overestimate their looks or their whatever characteristics that typically the opposite sex
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finds attractive. But I do think it's a primarily female thing where there is an overestimation
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of your attractiveness. And frankly, it's a major fucking issue when it comes to dating.
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Because if you have women who think they're more attractive than they actually are,
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and they believe that, well, they're not going to date guys on their league,
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even though it's like for outsiders, it's like, yo, that's your league. Oh, I'm not attracted to
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him terrible for the dating marketplace are you trauma dumping right now no i'm not trauma dumping
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i'm just articulating uh observation which i happen to believe is true do you disagree
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i feel like guys who feel that women are out of their league they need a reason to believe that
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oh she thinks she's out of my league because of you know xyz um complications do i give off the
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impression that uh i have like an over inflated sense of my attractiveness and that that thus
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means that i'm deserving of like top tier supermodel women you give off like nonchalant
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like i got do you want to answer the question i got status like i got a couple like bags here
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like i might as well like have like a top tier woman but i gotta act nonchalant about it
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yeah what have i said that would actually lead you haven't said it but you said but you said
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do I give off the vibe I'm saying vibe right but I think throughout the course of the night I've
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for example I read myself 4.5 I have no delusions or illusions as to my looks I'm self-aware so
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I if I were to assess myself again I'm not sitting here calling myself a 10 as a lot of women do I
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don't think i'm a 10 in looks certainly but you're aware that women don't just go off look sometimes
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when they see opportunity they grab that uh yeah women care about other characteristics but i think
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looks are a big part of dating for both men and women both men and women depends what they want
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out of it i would argue for genuine levels of attraction like for genuine attraction uh
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typically for most women we're not going to talk about like gold digger outliers for most women
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there has to be a degree of physical attraction to be intimate to want to date somebody there
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has to be a baseline physical attraction there's nothing wrong with with with that in either
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direction i think it's okay for women to have preferences when it comes to a man's looks and
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vice versa but in any case i feel like women i feel like men get more invested in women's looks
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than women do i i have some disagreements there but i think i will finish off on the looks rating
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component here i do think it is the case that uh what we just witnessed here well here let me um
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let me give you the looks ratings and then i perhaps can explain it better may i make one
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comment sure um the looks thing also too you have to think about different countries like when i was
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in asia i was what i consider to be overweight kind of like you i was chubbier and stuff and i
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really didn't like myself very much and it was funny because the one professor came up to me
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and said you know you're a very attractive woman and i'm like really you know i was really down on
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myself too and it was because of my big eyes and my higher nose that's their beauty standard
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so in different countries it can be different too which is interesting i mean yes there's
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obviously some some varying my nose gave it to me you know my big eyes the thing i mean yeah
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there's obviously certain traits typically more minor traits are value differently in different
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countries um you compare asia you compare the united states you tribal africa you compare
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europe you compare latin america whatever it is uh you know you go to brazil maybe there's a
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different thing there whatever it is right uh however i would say a genuinely head-turning
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beautiful woman in asia or in brazil or in the united states that is going to translate
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90 to whatever country they go to like there's never a scenario where typically
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where like a beautiful stunning woman in Brazil is going to be deemed ugly in the United States
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or ugly in Europe yeah and so I like yeah there's slight certain differences here like Asia has
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some slight differences but like a beautiful woman in Asia like men in America are probably
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going to find her uh pretty attractive too so there are differences quite interesting because
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my nose and my eyes did it for him and it was it was this consensus throughout everybody because
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i was like is that really true here so i asked some of the students and things and it was really
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interesting to learn how old were you well how old were you when that happened i'm just curious
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about 50 oh really okay because i feel like with like the internet beauty standards are like
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mod podging together but like they're starting that might have been more true when there was
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less like intercultural no perhaps it wasn't because i was white it was because of the nose
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in the eyes very very specific but i was a little fat as i always like to say you're a little fat
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yeah i mean also we'd all be almost a little fat there but also i don't think you should confuse
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uh like almost all women can get sexual attention from men and like being bombarded with sexual
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attention doesn't necessarily reflect your level of true genuine aesthetic attractiveness like for
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example you can put an average girl on a dating app and she can fuck five dudes it doesn't mean
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she's a supermodel it doesn't mean she's beautiful it just right she's a woman excuse me so we're not
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really talking about that we're talking about what other people are finding and certain cultures and
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different things like i said i found it quite interesting the other thing that's what did it
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there i was like because i to me felt fat and they did call me a little fat at least
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you know well the other thing you have to contend with is uh a oftentimes effective
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dating strategy is flattery well it certainly isn't typically effective to just insult a woman
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it's certainly at best neutral and oftentimes positive to compliment a woman right like it
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would never occur but again there was no reason for him to say that he just said you are but and
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this is why you're trying to fuck you no he wasn't okay like i said i asked the other students what's
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like the beauty standard here and they said definitely you're like the nose the eye i think
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okay so i think people uh even if they don't have a desire to have sex with you will still flatter
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like women even is completely different they don't flatter very much even heterosexual women
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will flatter other women who are clearly not beautiful and call them beautiful you need not
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look further than a fat woman's instagram page to see all her friends oh my god slay queen i wish
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i looked like you you're so beautiful uh yeah we spoke about it this yeah this idea that just
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because you're receiving compliments like for example i mean every mom says they're you're so
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beautiful son you're so beautiful you're so handsome for them yes yeah but i mean
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they're just confusing the guys anyways um are you saying that because that's some of the girls
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on the panel is that what you're saying is what what i'm saying you're assuming that some of the
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girls on the panel are saying that to their friends women in general no i'm saying this
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is a phenomenon i don't know if women on this panel do it i would assume i would assume uh
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there's a good chance that the women on this panel have uh you know perhaps left an instagram
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comment on a friend's thing who that's clearly an unattractive woman and they're like oh my god
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you're so beautiful slay queen whether they do or don't i think i don't really care to be honest
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though it is a phenomenon it is a it is something that women do so uh so the okay ratings looks
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right uh let's see here actually really quick before i do to the women who gave themselves
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eights boom boom boom boom uh do you guys think megan fox is an eight megan fox yeah is she an
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eight a nine or a ten or she's a ten who's an give me a male we're talking about our faces right
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give me can you give me a male celebrity who's a eight a male so yeah starting with you
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i don't know celebrities like that i don't know i don't know celebrities is a 10 don't play with
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him okay kevin hart kevin hart is an eight okay i don't know man i'm just thinking i'm just thinking
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no way he's left i'm thinking hold on yeah he's a short king he's an eight or um who's the one
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okay you can look back truth be told uh greta i actually think you underrated yourself slightly
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uh you gave yourself a six i i think i'd put you perhaps a face i think i'd put you closer to 6.5
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maybe even seven okay uh in the face you have strong you have strong aesthetics could we have
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i could like give you a breakdown on like uh like pros and cons or whatever but uh i think i'll just
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leave it i also have no work done so there's some potential here i got worked on this girl i don't
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think you should get work done to be honest well everyone has work done can I say like when you
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get in those jobs everyone yeah and like maybe chin filler my chin is quite like no your chin
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your chin's fine um you don't need to do that maybe like but I wouldn't talk no you're you
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don't need any of that shit um yeah I think I'd give you 6.5 to uh 7 uh for you you gave yourself
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a 10 uh what did i give you last time do you remember no i don't really i have a hard time
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listening to men when they talk so it comes back around fair enough uh so i i think
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i'm trying to i think i gave you 5.5 it was something like that or like a six point like
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around there i don't know i think it was like i'd give you i think i'd give you between a five and a
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six somewhere around there yeah um yeah okay you gave yourself uh you gave yourself a three
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uh you gave yourself a three i did so uh again i actually i disagree with you i think you
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underrated yourself um you underrated yourself quite a bit not just minimally when i think
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minimally i think like 0.5 to one um i i honestly think i would put you uh i think i'd give you
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five to six in that in that range so you underrate and perhaps you're just trying to be humble
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uh if i'm comparing myself to what i think is a 10 like a megan fox i think i sit at the 3.5
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that's why well so you gotta okay so i guess perhaps i'll i'll get back to the rating so
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Six is to just put an, I guess, would this be an adjective?
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Um, I think you can get to like 9.5 and that would be like your specific, like type nine
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I definitely think you underrated yourself, uh, five to six.
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Uh, you gave yourself a, oh no, you did say seven.
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Now, I do, of course, have to be considerate of, you're 60...
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And, I mean, you're wearing full face of makeup.
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You have pink contact lenses in, so it's a bit hard.
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Yeah, usually I'm typically rating people between like in their 20s to 40s.
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Do I go off of age or do I go off of just purity facial structure?
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I don't know how to rate a 64 year old, to be honest.
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If you're competing against the entire market, then, I mean, you'd probably be a three.
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But for your age, I would say your average for your age, so I'd put you at a five.
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I mean, even I would give myself a little more.
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I'd say for her age, I'd say she's average looking.
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Have you ever had any plastic surgery or anything?
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I don't detect any plastic surgery, but you never know.
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I think I'd put you somewhere between 5.5 and 6.5.
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anytime you get over 5.5 to 6 that's 6 is a good rating you're in a you're attractive uh at 6 but
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well i mean you can even be attracted i mean you're even attractive at 5 but uh 5.5 to 6.5 i
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think is a uh pretty fair no that's a fucking joke i'd say i'm seven sexual tension right here
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you've been hitting on her this whole time yeah you said we can do so you said we couldn't do
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Well, I said 5.5 to 6.5, and this is, I get to say 7 if I'm so inclined.
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But, okay, going to you, you gave yourself an 8.
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uh you or well you gave yourself a eight correct okay and you are you full mexican or like half
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white half mexican no i'm latina i'm mexican okay yeah well i mean there's white mexicans
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technically so i mean i'm a little mexican american yeah uh so don't take this the wrong way
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it's okay i don't you actually have so okay you struggle with the same issue that i face
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which is we're both a bit overweight and again i'm not saying i'm not saying this like as a form
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of attack i think mine looks a little bit better on me though but i'm just gonna be honest well i
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think you're in a sweater you are a bit if we're doing well okay i'm not gonna go there but you
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said you're not talking about him well so what i'm gonna say though is um you actually have
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Like, your facial aesthetics could really be pretty solid.
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So, I think, though, given the current, I have to give you a rating.
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Everyone, when you're 60 or 60, you'll look at it.
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And I don't think those are a holdup, so, you know.
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You said you think she's better looking than you?
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Chat, and look, just because you think she might be annoying, don't be mean.
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Between her, between Greta, and Poland, which woman do you think has better facial aesthetics?
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But I think Greta, you know, the thing you have to deal with when it comes to Greta is she's a bit neurotic.
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So beyond looks, she would be kind of, no offense.
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I feel like Greta would be a lot in a relationship.
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I think Greta could probably be fixed, but there's a lot of deprogramming.
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You'd have to put Greta in a re-education camp.
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And there is an age difference between us as well.
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So what's your perfect archetype then, personality and looks?
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I know you said that, obviously, but white, Asian, and what was the other?
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So what's your perfect archetype within looks and personality?
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Well, so, you know, like, question for the panel, and I'll answer your question in a moment.
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Who here, if the guy is, like, tall, will you, like, he's, you know, your ideal, like, tall?
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If he's, like, really hot and he doesn't have a job, you're still fucking.
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I wouldn't even fuck with him if he didn't have a job.
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I guess it depends on what you're doing for him.
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I wouldn't even fuck with him if he didn't have a job, period.
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So my thing is, like, the bigger the labia, the more she can, the more I'm willing to...
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If she has a big labia, like, she gets a pass on a couple.
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She's like sorry Brian your dick's not big enough for that to happen
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I don't look at it like that on a day-to-day basis
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No, I'm not loose, if that's what you're trying to say
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You know, like, small dick energy, big dick energy
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i get like cavernous vagina energy from you like i don't know maybe i could be off but i do get
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like big tunnel energy as i was going to say loose pussy energy yeah i know i don't i don't
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have loose pussy energy i don't have pink tunnel energy that's why i'm entitled to question what
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you're saying if i wasn't entitled to do that then i would just stay quiet and say you know
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whatever you want to say but obviously is that how that works i'm entitled to that so i can question
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So you're saying because you have tight pussy energy, you can question.
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I mean, if you want to be provocative and say it like that, then, yeah, I guess so.
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I'll let the women, you guys, talk amongst yourselves.
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Some of you have not had much of an opportunity to talk.
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So now's a good opportunity to discuss amongst yourselves momentarily while I step away.
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Just drop a rage bait question and we can go from there
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Do you feel like it's worth compromising your morals for OnlyFans?
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Because, as I said, you're a beautiful woman, honestly.
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You are very pretty, but when it comes to OnlyFans,
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you know that the majority of men are very selective with who they speak to and what type
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of past they are personally i don't feel like past is a big narrative in someone's um future
04:41:02.980
relationship but do you feel like you're entitled to uh you know incel talk high value man or
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whatever um when it comes to um your relationships in the in the future or are you looking to have
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a relationship at this moment in time oh i'm in a relationship oh you're in a relationship do you
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do it with her your boyfriend yeah i do it with my boyfriend okay okay i'm yeah i think i'm entitled
04:41:27.380
to live a normal life yeah especially like because i'm a sex worker i think i deserve it
04:41:34.020
still because like the propaganda that people push upon sex workers that were worth any less
04:41:39.340
it's harmful towards society and it's harmful towards sex workers overall to keep the mindset
04:41:47.920
because that's why the stigma surrounding sex workers
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People like us fought for this right for you guys
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Yeah, there was more of a stigma, but then again, there are people that don't care.
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There are millionaires and billionaires that don't care.
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I think people have gotten worse, but as far as the industry, no.
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people are doing it more it's less of a stigma than you feel like nobody cares about the dating
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part unless they care about it and that's probably somebody you don't want to date it's not a big
04:42:53.680
deal since you're taken and you're single do you feel like it's kind of jeopardized your ability
04:43:00.740
to be taken with another man again no no no no i choose my life i do what i want i've supported
04:43:08.540
myself i don't need a man to support me okay it pushes toxic men away if anything like it can
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actually be a way to protect yourself from those that don't share the same views as you
04:43:18.740
what does your account look like do you do like full-on like pornography i don't like only fans
04:43:24.100
actually pictures do you don't do any not do you don't like it i do it all um the only thing i
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really don't do is like weird like i mean aggressive content like or like um do you
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manager like like gangbangs and stuff like that okay can i ask you something i just genuinely
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want to understand it's not from a point of attacking because you probably figured that i
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don't agree with what you're doing which is fine but i do respect you as a person so do you plan
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to have children in the future yes i'm actually planning on starting to have a baby um like
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working to like you know we're gonna start trying um like my next ovulation cycle do you think it
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affect them mentally when obviously things that are out in the internet they remain there
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um i think that people underestimate the power of dmca takedowns and they don't understand that
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you actually can work to get that wiped off it costs a lot of money but also like i think there's
04:44:18.760
more power not being ashamed of it so you can liberate your mindset and your children even
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more when it gets to that point where you have to talk to them if you ever do like i know plenty of
04:44:28.020
sex workers where they just like keep it private and they don't allow it to create insecurities
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within their lives can i ask you a question too and i'm aware of that a lot of sex workers
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you know use fake names and you know keep their stuff offline and just speak to other sex workers
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about their work and you know but also their marketing scheme is to promote provocative
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photos and videos online on social media platforms like x and instagram to be able to get you know
04:45:02.120
client well not clients but viewers yeah yeah to be to be able to get more subscribers is actually
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promo to be actually to be more um profitable in their own business so they can actually sustain
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themselves and keep their only fans and their sex work going so obviously do you think maybe in the
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next 10 15 years when you actually do have children that are attending high school and
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um uh what's it called what's below high school 15 years for high school no no no but high school
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is that 15 years like elementary school that they'll actually be more accepting of sex work
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and only fans than they are today i think that it's based upon how the children are raised and
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there's always going to be some form of bullying whether it's about what your parents do for work
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or not i think people should just raise their children not to be bullies and just mind their
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business and if they don't align with not to discriminate yeah i want to take out the kids
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question out of the way in a sense because i feel like you might be spiritual are you spiritual
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yeah i was raised christian okay um for from the spiritual perspective sex creates cords
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and even if someone's jerking off to you or you know looking at your pornography yeah like do you
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think that's yeah but do you feel that in your body and do you think that's actually good for
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your body they were doing it to my selfies before before i mean then why would you put more out
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there for you to feel it more it doesn't bother me i mean i think it's still there like it would
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still tarnish your own intimate experience there's still an energetic attachment
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there's still energy that's being taken from you spiritually it's not being taken from me
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she's not giving her body yeah i'm not exactly it's just it's energetic exchange though it's
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not an energetic exchange in the same way as it is if you go and have a one night not the same
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way but it's still an energetic exchange well let me honestly how is the purity like are you
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a virgin what are you a virgin i'm not no okay well that is also an energetic exchange are you
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still with the person that you slept no but i've cleansed my body how have you cleansed your body
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have you got baptized recently no but i have i have been celibate for over a year right yes that's
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what i think most of us have had a shower you just want to fight for no reason no i mean you've come
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We're a nine panel, so we can all give our responses.
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What about the 1960s and 70s, the sexual revolution?
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I mean, there are things I disagree with in certain aspects of the industry.
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But the point is, we had the sexual revolution, and look where that got us.
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That was more detrimental than pornography was.
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i think we're valuing the wrong things in life like i think that that that promotes
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valuing sex addiction valuing but that's a whole different thing because you deem them as a threat
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towards your relationships or any like future relationships no it's just they're not good for
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your body or like don't mind their business about sex work are doing it out of like insecurity and
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they feel threatened because they're like oh like what if my man's watching porn like and then you
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deem that like the same as them going and cheating on you but that's not good to be watching porn we
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could be doing so many other things and but like also there's a lot of things that aren't good
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so you agree that porn is not good but you're contributing to something that's not good using
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it and there are people that do abuse porn but at the end of the day it's not really my problem
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like it's like i will love them regardless like i'm gonna do my best to be kind to my subs
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If someone's jacking off to me all the time
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Like I said, people were jacking off to my selfies
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There's a spiritual impact whether you like it or not
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Because I got harassed way more before sex work
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It's more liberating that I took that power back
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I was getting messages when I was a little girl
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like you know they're gonna do what they want like it's about you having your own power and
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like you like set boundaries how like how are you what are you gonna do you're gonna control
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them from afar like you can't are you part of an over just you don't you know you just don't put
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yourself in a position where people do that so she's not in an agency i think something that's
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like even work like i think that like the thing you should be concerned about are these like of
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management agencies no i think we should be concerned about putting our bodies like the
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The most sacred thing in spirituality is our bodies.
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But I understand your point of what you're saying, but she's not a prostitute either.
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No, no, I'm not calling her a prostitute like that.
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And that's just her personal preference because it's pictured.
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Do you prefer that freedom and liberation is taken away?
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People are getting exploited and that's horrible
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exploited. It creates a distraction from actual
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problems and harm in society. But I don't think
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If you're having sex with multiple sex workers
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okay i understand like that's a little bit exploitative but she's having it with her
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partner well and you're hating on her for making money i'm not hating on her i'm asking her perspective
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yes you are supply and demand ethically right if there's more supply there's always going to be
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demand if there's more supply of people who are doing it themselves because they want to do it
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and they're in control of everything they're making the money the less there will have to
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be like women being exploited and forced into it right just i think we should get rid of the demand
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and work on lowering that but at the end of the day this is way better that she's doing that she's
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in control of it and it's just because something's way better doesn't make it good it's always going
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to be around though like i don't it's not good if there is an energy so what's your argument then
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that it's not good for our soul for our bodies to actually so you're spiritual you're christian
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i'm spiritual that's not for you to do with christian judaism background you are not god
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It exists, and you don't get to determine what is good and what is bad and what is spiritually unfulfilling
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because you don't know how many people have came to me and told me that I've helped them
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because my family used to shame me a lot for it.
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But what opened my eyes and got rid of that shame is how many people came forward
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and told me I helped them through some of the hardest times of their lives.
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well for most for other men it's like therapeutic you're like a therapist so you're fulfilling
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whatever it could be sexual but you're also listening to them yeah you want a friend you
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know it depends on intent but then you can take the sex out of it and just be their friend
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they want to pay for it so that's like actual therapy of you use ai to generate a picture of
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you and wink off to it it's not me exactly you we live we live in a capital to begin with it's
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not me for them to do that the u.s is the most capitalist country in the whole world if you were
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to even you know make an ai picture like she said and charge men because there are ai faceless uh
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content creators now that use only fans that use fan view to actually allow themselves to create
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money off of you know men pleasuring themselves to these naked photos or naked videos or bikini
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photos of women so if she were to do that then what would you think of that then like if if she
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were if it wasn't her if it was just like an artificial i don't think we should be doing that
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either that's actually very detrimental to society if it's consensual i think that's like that's the
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issue we're having in the dating world the men can get access to the images they want and the
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women can as well and all they're doing is being obsessed with sex we're not valuing the things
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that are important in relationships of course the human interaction yes we're taking away
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the human interactions of getting to know each other because i agree that we're fulfilling into
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our dopamine and oxytocin in the moment with sex stuff and so we're eliminating the ability to get
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to know each other to actually make real connections because we're obsessed with sex
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i agree it is a very huge problem in this world i agree with that but it's not going to change
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Well, anything that's promoting sexual deviancy is part of the same process.
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Actually, statistically speaking, when sex work went up,
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rapes and aggressive tendencies towards women went down.
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affect that person that is her choice but at the end of the day i'd rather people jack off to people
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online than it affect people physically we need to more murders rapes children okay things that
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we don't want to be talking about right now but i mean i don't have a system to the opposite but i
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have i don't believe that to be true that doesn't even logically sound right you've never watched
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porn i'm like doing i have watched peeping into people's windows it's in the psychological will
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you watch porn again probably not okay okay so so how do you pleasure yourself i don't you don't
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pleasure yourself so so you're just stoic you don't like you know touch yourself i don't get
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guys to do anything no you're celibate yes okay fair enough have you ever watched porn yes okay
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so how do you think that took a toll on your mental health i mean i the same way it probably
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took a toll on other people like we were at that moment I was already torn mentally like I was
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obsessed with sex as opposed to focusing on the right thing like I was already tormented I was
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essayed very fairly young like I had not even been kissed and I was essayed by three men uh in their
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20s when I was 14 and I think a lot of women are get into situations put themselves in situations
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like that um and just say like oh it's cool because i'm consenting but in reality we just
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never never were confident enough to say no and we didn't really want to do do it in the first
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place like i feel much better saying no to sex with the wrong person because when i want to have
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sex i want a real connection with someone i want to have that connection and form a real relationship
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with someone instead of just giving my body away it feels so much better to have an intimate
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relationship with the right energetic uh connection without tarnishing it with other
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people's energies in my body she has lived experience she has real experience with her
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partner she's not fucking other men that's not what i'm insinuating well you said i want i want
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a real yeah you said i want a real um i want a real connection with somebody that i want to be
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with i'm not insinuating that she doesn't we're talking about poor connection that's what i'm
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that's my oh so you're talking to generality not just her as no i'm sorry yeah i was saying what
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i want but i wasn't talking about her connection at all i don't know her relationship i don't like
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watch pornography but i've like gone to like the home screens of it and it like makes me like
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disgusted and revolted and i would imagine the content that she makes is like like not like
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wholesome but it's like her and her partner it's not violent it's not like gross it's not pervy
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and that's like something safe for maybe like a single guy to use to whatever like pleasure
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himself and i think that's significantly better to date sex workers we do not want to date
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strumpets sure brian i i i don't know what i'm talking about i'm just justifying like not
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justifying but like i just came back kind of like saying that i people shouldn't have a problem with
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what she's doing all right uh so here's what we're gonna do though uh you know what we need
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like a sort of semi sort of intermission uh i've lowered the tts we're going to lower it for 10-15
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minutes i think this panel needs to be roasted uh so we'll do a roast session i've i've lowered
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the tts to 69 dollars if you guys want to get a tts in it's going to be only 69 for
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maybe 10-20 minutes so if you want to get a roast in get it in now i think this is uh we haven't we
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have not done a roast even like the end of stream roast where it's even lower than this uh in quite
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a while i it's been like i don't know 10 20 30 episodes so get one in get one in really quick
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while we're doing that we have a fun ai segment that we're going to do while i wait for some of
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those roasts to come in so but there it is 69 roast that's streamlabs.com slash whatever also
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really quick here you know what i need to do i need to ask you guys to also uh thank you for
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the membership there like the video please like the video and then a reminder $10 displays
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drop us a follow on twitch.tv slash whatever but we are doing a $69 TTS roast all right so why don't
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we do the AI segment here real quick so the question is um oh man I have another question
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on this but fuck uh well I guess the question is would you date the male version of you
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so uh let's go ahead and pull that first one up
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and guys like the video please if you're enjoying the stream
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like the video please if you're enjoying the stream all right
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would you date the male version of you looks kind of like brian's no
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i like the middle one the guy in the middle literally looks like my dad so i feel like i
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cannot answer that question your dad is hot also i feel like like it would be more dimorphic than
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that like you know like the the jaw probably would be you have a brother i do but he's 12
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perfect well uh i feel like you should probably read it because like that literally is my dad
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If I was a different girl and he didn't look like my dad
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i don't know about that red hair on him on me i don't like it's making me question the third one
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Hey, Tiffany, can you collect the pest, the popsicle things down for Tiffany to collect?
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No, no, the cups can stay, but it's just like the popsicles or whatever.
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put it okay this is rocket science over here um all right next oh i'm scared
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i personally would not i don't think so not my type not your type okay all right pretty generous
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there not gonna lie but uh okay next why are they all big wow i love the color of the hair
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match to everyone um that looks like ethan klein looks like h3 h3 on the right there mine didn't
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look like my dad which is weird because i look uh also like 30 years younger or two but i mean
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what can you do um okay would you date them it looks like my dad too so no it looks like my dad
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to know okay next a little bit it looks like freddie benson here scoot into the table a bit
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oh my days let me see that again it looks like freddie for my carly it does yeah yes yeah
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she's kind of gooning over him that's bro hello i can't help it how did that happen
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uh okay get some merch i guess shop top whatever.com buy some merch is it back
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okay damn daddy look good i mean he looks like a proper like white guy what the fuck
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i'd say that's the third one in it huh huh it's not even tuesday but it's tuesday yeah it's not
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Yeah, no, I'd say like the third guy would be probably maybe, like I might be into him.
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He's, I'd say he's like an average looking dude
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So no, you wouldn't take, what do you rate him?
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So you mog him by eight, or excuse me, four points
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you're an eight and he's a four well because i wasn't going off the like the i guess the standard
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of like five is average i guess i'm always thinking of it like in that like oh everyone
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picks seven so you should go higher does that make sense okay all right so how do you change
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your rating then oh i went down yeah like i went down to like a six for my my no no big deal
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he's actually cute yeah he kind of mugs not i thought it was gonna look like my brother but
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yeah this dude mugs yeah with the beard i think is good i'm actually
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why does he have acne though that's crazy wait put him again talking at the same time that's
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really helpful justin from wizards of waverly place oh my god david henry i could see next
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it's giving ryan sheffler that's crazy oh you look like eminem yeah that's it yeah i don't like
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blonde guys timu eminem because only because of the hair color i do like the face the hair
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you look like you have a great rap career ahead of you
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what about the female version of you look like you talk like a lesson yeah let's show yours let's
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see the female version of you i'm very curious all right uh they did me dirty they did do you
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same okay hold on you look like a dude still wait you look like that chick what what's her name
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you look like pearl you look like pearl davis that girl i look like pearl that's you look like
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pearl oh my god oh yeah uh they gave you the car you know you might mock pearl by like i gotta
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lose weight though i gotta lose weight and maybe it'll be more favorable okay uh and then we're
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gonna probably not do the the like looks improvement one actually you know what here let me just see
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i'm because i'm curious let's just this is so we did like okay we put you through ai and i think
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we just said beautify like how could you mog like how could you ascend everything everything
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i said earlier how could you ascend bro masseter botox that's literally what i said earlier i don't
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know what you're talking about but i'm just saying anyways next next don't do it oh my goodness
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i just look like an anime chick like the other one no way yeah uh i decline that
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okay all right like scuffed ariana grande kind of uh next uh okay next
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absolutely you look like you're from the 90s i guess with the hair uh next
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next you look the same pretty close although there's some differences next
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that's a different person he just has your nose holy shit you need a possible train on asap you
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need a possible train on asap that's a completely different person that's quite a transformation
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there i i don't that person doesn't even look real though let's be real like that just that's
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an excuse you need a personal trainer asap yeah you're right i have already said i'm fat what
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what the fuck um we already get it we already get it bro we already get it bruv she just said
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you look better if you got a personal trainer can you do a liverpool accent like a scouse set
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can you do i can't do it probably not no try it scouse
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what do they say chicken and cock chicken and cock what the hell chicken and cock
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oh um chicken and a can of cook yes good job yeah yeah can anybody do a vietnamese nail salon
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impression you want long or short nail yeah oh can you you know what i was gonna give you i was
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gonna give you a red card and kick you off the show but i'm a nice guy you have to do the rest
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of the show in a vietnamese action yo allow it bro come on you can stay that's a bit too much
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why would you give me a red card anyway i didn't even act out of line a little bit i was doing
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i was doing your podcast when you left congratulations uh so okay uh the we're
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gonna do the roast session now reminder guys only two roasts what the fuck guys i'm gonna go
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You know, the TTS has been a little bit on the small side recently.
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So, you know, I think it, you know how they say that there's like something, I don't know
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if it's about strip clubs, but if like strippers go out of business, like, you know, you're
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headed towards a recession or some shit or, ah, fuck, it's something like that.
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And I feel like if you have a toxic podcast and the TTS starts drying up, you're heading towards a recession, boys.
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After listening to the panel prattle while Brian was away, I have a new fear unlocked.
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My daughter coming into a podcast like this and making herself look like a complete dumber.
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Of course, it's very young women not even to think about a solid and genuine career anymore.
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before you have seniors express how fantastic the sex work has been to you remember you aren't the
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center of the w one you are that's so funny i'm in school for cyber security and i have my real
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estate education it's just something they tell themselves to allow them to sleep them better at
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night it's all good man you you she ain't gonna let you crack you'll get some soon don't watch that
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all righty then the the roast tts's the the cream will rise to the top
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okay that was cringe never mind uh that was terrible and me now okay so
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damn bro i step away for 10 15 minutes and uh we i don't know you guys just the the sex talk
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yo in the chat question for the chat um do you find the sex worker convo boring like the sex work
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bad convo boring i personally find it very boring it's old now i find it boring chat i don't think
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it's that interesting i feel like it's just like okay well she wants sex work this person doesn't
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want sex work i don't know you i find it like oh only fans is bad we will never agree
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well i think that the uh the sex work is just the conversation is not it's just not interesting
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sex work in terms of what though only fans only fans prostitution stripping all of the above
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so if it was minus that what would your podcast prerogative be just dating like normal day-to-day
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like women that work nine we barely aside from when you guys brought it up we haven't talked
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about sex work at all but only when i leave do you guys go to like the topic that i find the
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most boring to be honest but the when when the chat done the tts or the paid um comments that's
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what they mostly talked about that they disagree with it but they still mentioned it though that's
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that's what they mentioned uh okay and what would you consider a more controversial topic
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i mean we definitely hit a bunch we were talking about fad acceptance we talked about
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women's voting we talked about uh you do that every being blasted inside of every show like
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i don't know body count yeah sure fuck it let's do body count although i should wait until the
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until the entire panel is here well going around the panel uh who thinks that past should not
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matter uh and this is a question on the questionnaire so ivy um i used to trip about
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it but it just caused so much drama in my life and division so it got in between relationships
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I really cared about and I learned not to care so much about it it was like an aspect of control
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that I had to let go of so I really don't think it's my business word word if they want to share
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they can share I appreciate when they do I mean I think it was also maybe you and you said circled
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Yeah, for you it would, but a lot of people it doesn't.
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And I'm over 60 and I've dated a lot of men and I've seen a lot of people.
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I've been around the world and a lot of people, it doesn't overly matter.
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Like she said, it becomes a toxic point in your relationships and things you're doing.
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Well, I'm prepared to say that while I agree with you that not all men, so yeah, not all men care about it.
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I would say if you were to ask the majority of men and you asked them to be honest
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the majority of men do not want to date and have long-term relationships with
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promiscuous women with high body counts and I mean we could go to the extreme like just to
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make it simple but I could lower this threshold down I think you ask the majority of men would
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you want to marry or be in a long-term relationship with a woman who has slept with more than
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a hundred men. I can't give you a precise percentage. I would say that
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80, 90% of men would say, no, I would not. I've talked to guys. I've talked in different types
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of social situations, different kinds of people, different kinds of places.
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Dear one, you got to get some clothes on. That tiny dress is crazy. Are you even wearing
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underwear are you wearing underwear it's athletic it literally has shorts i think it's
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don't show don't show it's it's a squad it's it's a sort of dress you have like a boy shorts or
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something yeah yeah it's built into the dress it's like um it's like more modest than what
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what do they call a scooter skirt it's like yeah it's like aloe it's not yeah it's cute
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thanks it's it's what you would wear to a funeral you know what i should do you know
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you know what i should do i should instead of saying like you know wear like an outfit that
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you'd wear on a date in in our pre-show notes to the women i should say something like
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wear something you'd wear to a funeral that just for one show that'd be funny but you said yeah
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black wouldn't look good on camera i'd have to make an exception i packed a nice like modest
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black dress and he was like no black yeah we don't like black because it it the contrast on
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though. You're wearing black. Well, I'm trying to hide
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that could be considered a rational thought wait i have something wait what did i even
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what are they talking about wait listen one of the most insanely idiotic things i have ever heard
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at no point in your rambling incoherent response were you even close to anything
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that could be considered a rational thought what did i say that's not coherent
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is now dumber for having listened to it what did i say no points and may god have mercy on your soul
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By the way, Iron Man, you've got to send me another one
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So you're trying to say everything that I said was incoherent
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or whatever the fuck you're going to send in it
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what are some other things that British people do
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ladies how would you all adapt or comply with the religious
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If any TTSs come through within the next two or three minutes, I'll allow them.
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But I am going to bring it back up to where it was.
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If any come through, you know, last minute here, I'm not going to screw you over.
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If they trickle in, we'll get it for the next five minutes or so.
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Thank you. Thank you for sending in those messages. So real quick reminder, guys, $10 display, $100 read, $200 TTS going around the table. What is the minimum in, excuse me, what is the minimum yearly income to be your future husband?
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i don't i've never thought of that before honestly i want to like if i'm dating now like i want a guy
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who's ambitious but like i'm young if i'm dating someone my age like like i'm ambitious so like
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if he plans to be successful if he's showing signs of that then i'd go out with him even if
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he's kind of broke okay as long as he can pay for a date i mean so would you would you date a guy
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who makes less than six figures and my mind you this is uh perhaps now you're you're 22 right i
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I mean, when you're a bit younger, it's typically less of – can be less of a concern, especially if you're in college or, like, college age.
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You're not, you know, not typically caring as much about some of these other things like money, et cetera.
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But maybe, like, when – say you're 29 and you're still dating.
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well because you yeah you in a stream didn't you say you make a hundred thousand dollars a month
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no i said that was that just bullshit no no no okay what happened i didn't say that i didn't
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say that i said that i was on this was actually yesterday i was on that like really bad date and
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he was trying to convince me to do only fans and like he was talking about all the money i could
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make and i was like i would rather make 100k a year just being a normal content creator and
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working with brands than make oh 1.5 million dollars a year being an only fans creator i
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You were making that much, but whatever, it doesn't matter.
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Okay, so minimum yearly income to be your future husband.
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I don't think it matters to me personally as long as he is a provider
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or doing something that he is trying to be a provider.
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It's an expensive life in Los Angeles, and if you have a home, it's even more expensive, so $250,000 or $200,000.
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I have in the past, but the economy has slowed things down a little bit.
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Well, yeah, but that's like a guy who used to make, like if a guy told you,
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well I used to make a million dollars a month but now I work in McDonald's you'd be like I don't
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give a fuck regardless um Amanda makes the same amount or a little bit more but if you know like
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okay so I'm not gonna be a provider yeah exactly that makes sense but I mean like okay let's be
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realistic here uh guy who makes what's the age range of men you would date um around my age
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the youngest I've dated was like 10 years younger okay so you're 48 so what you date like
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48 to 60 48 to 55 depending i don't know about 60 i 55 maybe yeah for a guy though okay so uh
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between 40 and okay so do you think a guy say who's 50 who makes 250 000 a year
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do you think like he wants to date you yeah i mean i it's happened so
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okay think what you want i'm rolling with what i'm rolling i just feel like you know
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single mom what how old's your kid she's 19 i guess she's out of the house it's not as big of
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a thing 48 250k can we get you down so i'm as as a representative of the male delegation here's
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what we're prepared we're prepared here's our maximum offer as representative for the male
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delegation you're 48 uh you have one kid we are prepared to offer you a 53 year old named gustavo
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he is a mechanic he makes 75 000 a year he's a premium mechanic i guess um he does drink quite
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a bit of beer. Not like alcoholic level, but he does drink a lot of beer. He's a good
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man, though. He's a hard worker. He comes home, his hands are rough and dirty. But he
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works hard. He has a son who is 20. As representative of the male delegation, we'd like to extend
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He's a good man, though. I'm sure he is. And he'll find
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a good woman, too. But I'm not the woman for him.
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I wish you the best. Okay, let me see if I can add
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some... He's got a big dick. Does that help?
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We have one other offer from the male delegation.
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on to scoot here leave your mic where it is stop moving your mic push it back that way
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his name is pedro he makes a hundred thousand dollars a year he is a salesman he's a salesman
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uh and he uh he plays what's that he plays racquetball at the local ymca you know he tries
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to stay fit and he uh he is a five foot six though uh he's five six but heart of gold
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heart of gold great man cooks he cooks he's a great cook good in the bedroom
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this is our final offer to you that's okay do you accept the offer from the male delegation no
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you are going to have to join a nunnery my dear i will i think it's over for you
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we have given you our two best options available and you rejected both of them that's fine hearts
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of gold both these men listen i'll wait it out it's okay that's not where it ends okay all right
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uh well i guess moving on uh minimum yearly income to date you um i think i said something
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like 60 60k all right what about you um i also think i said something like 60 you wrote oh wait
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hold on yep uh what about you i wrote hundreds i'll love i love that for all of you uh 250k though
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here calculator at least close to 200 the calculator do you know how to do it
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after taxes it's not that much money it's half of that uh yeah but that's a pretty high income
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Okay, tell us the age range of men you would date, realistically.
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Do you want to exclude, I assume, I don't know why this is even an option.
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I assume you want to exclude already married men.
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Okay, so what's the minimum height of a man that you would date?
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literally it's it's it's literalist statistics delusion score
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that's bogus no that's real it's zero point it's not chat gpt they pull from the census they
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they pull from the uh labor statistics it's not it's not that's not delusional and what's that
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well i mean that's the percentage of men wait a minute it's under it's not 10 it's zero point
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yeah it's 0.10 zero no it's not 10 percent zero point yeah 0.1 i guess we should say
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so there's more millionaires than more men that she's looking for that's what we're trying to say
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because when people say the top the top 1 percent the one the top 1 percent are inclusive of
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millionaires and billionaires but she's looking for less than 1 to be top in her category to be
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top one percent would be like i think the threshold is just for income is four hundred thousand
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dollars but then when you start like correcting for for age for height for like xyz all these
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other things that's the percentage breakdown oh so it's more than it's less than a million
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and it's not just millionaires and billionaires that are in the top one percent yeah yeah didn't
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she say sorry 250 000 or did you guys say bro it's not that complicated i don't know what you
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It's not at the table? No, I'm saying like the cap
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like all that shit, don't leave it on the table, just take it off
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think with me saying that I'm an anti-feminist it's not because I'm anti-women I do believe that
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modern feminism is affecting women's happiness and I just wish more young women would get out of
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that sort of ideology for the sake of their happiness I can agree with that I feel like a
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lot of what modern feminism is is anti-men yeah so I feel like that's where a lot of that comes
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from now so it's not about equality basically modern feminism yes a lot of it is just bashing
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men as a man yeah yeah I feel like you should be sat on that side of the table probably
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I didn't know where how he was seeing people either sounds like yeah yeah yeah what do you
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think are you a feminist would you consider yourself a feminist or anti-feminist um I would
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consider myself a feminist but not to the degree of hating men because I do agree with that yeah
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a lot of I don't think that people that hate men are feminists that's not the point it's not to
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divide but it's to view each other as equals and when you're being misandrous then it takes away
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from the purpose yeah of course that's different cool do you think that's modern feminism right now
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or feminism per se is actually lying about women well men living in an advantaged way so what it
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means is the data have switched a little bit more women have bachelor's degrees right now
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more males are going through suicide 80 percent of all suicides are just male and more risky jobs
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are obviously performed by men so if feminism is about equality shouldn't we now use feminism to
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actually try and get some equality for men well yeah I actually the first time that I came on
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here i had thought that we had less rights than men but after doing further research women actually
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do have more rights legally than men do and um they're they're it's little things like even like
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men like like they there's different advantages like men have the advantage of like taking their
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shirt off whenever they want in public it's just little things here and there but it's also like
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I don't know if I would want I mean I'm not like against like I've been to nude beaches and stuff
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but like I don't know if I would feel like safe doing that you know what I mean like anywhere
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like just anywhere yeah the same way men do and I think there's a reason for that and um
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you know we have these laws because they're to protect to an extent but there's so much
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controversy and they create so much conflict it's hard to please everyone yeah it is yeah 100%
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what about you are you a feminist or an anti-feminist I feel the same way like she said
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um not to the point where I hate men I love men they're beautiful they're creators you know they
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are they balance us out as divine feminines and you know we love on our men and we expect
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to be taken care of not like financially but you know just with the balance and the support and
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you know just being motivators too and just also being together side by side and motivating each
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other the balance that i bring the balance that he brings and you know we just help each other
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out through this journey so you said you would expect that it would be nice for a guy to earn
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at least 250 000 a year in order to be a provider what would you do in a situation whereby he's
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earning that much money he's providing for you and then he has certain demands towards you let's
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he wants you to dress a certain way that's my wife like what like dress modestly that's fine
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i mean is he are you is he planning on taking care of me like for me not working i'm really
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independent so i you know i've always taken care of myself and i've always taken care of my daughter
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and that's the same uh values that i'm in um and you know teaching her too to make sure that she
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takes care of herself and she follows the path and you know she's a strong woman and that's that's
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where she's headed so but i'm not going to completely change the person that i am but i
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will you know i will take consideration and then we can probably work something out nice what about
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you um yeah honestly i'm the same way i actually just was uh having a conversation about this at
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the bar with my friends the other day um because a guy went and asked her out and then when she
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said no he walked away and i never thought guys actually do this until it actually happened to
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us and was like if you both are ugly bitches anyways and i was like dang that's like i think
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the behavior that feminists are trying to fight against but they're doing it the wrong way and
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they're coming off as man haters and that's why they man eaters and all that stuff um and i just
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i don't agree with it i do believe however like the the giving woman the autonomy the ability
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to say like I want to wear this I want to wear that I do think that modern feminism it was holding
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a little bit back where you weren't able to do that like you were ran by your man your man said
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this your man said that you you follow it a snap in a finger I grew up in that kind of household
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and it left me with a lot of anxiety it left me with a lot of things that I know that I've
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gone through as a woman and I feel like if you set boundaries of course have this like self-respect
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the dignity and put that on your children but also be able to have the autonomy like you should
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be able to like like I know people even in my family were like if they looked a certain way
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they'd get smacked you don't do that like you you follow you listen what I say and I feel like
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people who are trying to avoid that kind of behavior the aggression the the dictatorship
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when it comes to relationships are doing it the wrong way now and it went to in a completely
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extreme to now women are like doing crazy ish on the internet and saying oh well I'm a feminist I
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can do what i want slapping guys in the middle have you seen those videos where they're like
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hitting guys or being like what what are you gonna do about it slapping things out of their hands
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it's it's derogatory not to them to them of course it's disrespectful but also to themselves like
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they're kind of losing kind of like what you were saying earlier like the feminine energy like you're
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losing what you claim to want so bad by the actions that you're doing you're acting animalistic at
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this point and yeah I don't agree yeah what do you think that's well said I used to be a social
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justice warrior when I was a teenager I would have said I was a feminist then but yeah I I don't
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agree with modern feminism I do think there are certain ways that I've been disadvantaged but
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they're very minuscule and they don't really affect my life that much like for example um
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Because I post online, I feel like I get disproportionate amounts of hate than if a man were to post the same thing.
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But that's, like, so minuscule in the grand scheme of things.
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Like, if you're a girl and you're somewhat attractive and you post online, it's so much easier to, like, gain an audience than a man.
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I can go, since I have a degree in math, I can go work a job and make the same amount of money as a guy my age.
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I'm going to pretend like you need to just make my dick go soft
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advantage i'm pretty grateful for nice okay um i'm gonna move things forward here i saw rachel
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leave a comment there while i was up shout out rachel wilson in the chat rachel are you still
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in the chat rachel uh w's in the chat for our dear friend rachel wilson now rachel wilson i do
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have a gripe with you i guess andrew um i saw him on trigger trigonometry uh i watched it last night
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actually his appearance i'm a little upset rachel
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this motherfucker has never worn that striking blue shirt on my podcast but he saves it for
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trigonometry rachel what the fuck he's always wearing that like all dark green olive fucking
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but and you know black this tell this guy tell andrew wilson next time he comes on the podcast
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he better bring that blue button down that he wore
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I'm a little pissed off, Rachel, because, you know,
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I feel like Andrew, you know, he, not that I'm an expert
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on dressing nicely, but he hasn't really brought,
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he he he hasn't brought it it hasn't been brung by him like i feel like he he's got to come on
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whatever podcast and dress to the dimes can you read this they're not listening because the
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fucking super chat's pulled up but uh read it gretting oh grettington chair five is about to
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rage quit after proving how low iq and spurgy she is or spurgy yeah spurgy she is see i can't read
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tried to compare the top one percent to the delusion calculator with multiple data points
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holy stupid hashtag repeal the 19th it's not delusional and low iq if you can't understand
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it so that's your problem yeah totally period love that for you but yeah rachel i don't know
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if you're still in the chat like what the fuck you know andrew's been holding holding that blue
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button down back the entire time like what the fuck yeah he's always coming in his little olive
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button oh my god the olive colored button yeah third baby mom is the charm not that i'm exactly
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the the paragon of style here okay all right shout out rachel wilson i don't think she i don't know
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if she's in the chat i don't see her uh okay so back to this we were going around the table we
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The question is, what is your body count, starting with you?
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Well, that's not what you wrote to us in your messages.
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You said your body count was in the five figures.
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No, you said it was like 10,000 or some shit.
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I thought you meant body count as many people as you killed.
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I didn't understand what body count meant on you, but I would have thought it meant...
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But so, if you've heard the term body count, why would...
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Yeah, I kept thinking body count is how many people do you have like you killed?
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No, but the body count question wasn't asked of you in the questionnaire.
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seen it when something... No, you offered this up.
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But so you wrote body count should ever...
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I don't believe that. Oh, yeah. I'm going to sit there
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had sex in 10 years. I think it's more likely that you
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10,000 people that's way more obviously i wouldn't disclose that either it was a joke
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because i didn't understand the question what did i say before that because i said i had to look it
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up whatever whatever whatever okay all right so uh what do you okay then so what do you think the
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body count is actually then what did i say 40 you said 40 well then you said like 120 or something
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i don't know you're saying i said more so what i said 120 i don't know you didn't okay in the
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actual messages you didn't you're saying what you said in the messages was a joke i'm now asking you
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for what the actual number is probably i have no idea exactly i don't count people uh i'm gonna say
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about 40 doubt press x to doubt um about 40 okay so 20 30 have you ever done 50 that would be 30
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That would be about 30 years, so about 40 people.
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Not really when you're paying a lot of money to come here
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I think that's a fair question to ask a sex worker
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It doesn't mean that you're the same as every other sex worker.
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Yes, the way I'm using sex worker is not to refer to prostitution.
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Okay, well, most people today, and it's modern usage of the word,
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would that it's an umbrella term that doesn't only refer to prostitution,
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But, I mean, they're paying you to engage in a sexual act.
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But I'm not really interested in getting in the weeds there.
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Okay, so body count is, you said body count like 40 to 100?
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what the f**k? El Greta in the chat. Let Greta, El Greta. Do you want to do a range?
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Honestly like no, I just feel like the whole internet doesn't like, it's like kind of personal
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information. Because if it's like, if it's low then like guys will be like sexualizing me because
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it's low and I fulfill their like wide fantasy and if it's high then it's like. I think you're
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you're overthinking it. Do you want to do a range though? It's under seven. Okay. So
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six. It's under six. Five and a half. I think you guys need to start asking the, uh, half
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questions, the oral sex count question. Cause I feel like some girls, you know, they might
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not you know the body count but like they don't suck some dick okay uh body count it's seven
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okay nice one wow no way yeah no way okay um body count on the 10 can you uh leave the microphone
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on the table and uh i know it's difficult for you but yes under nine nine no below that
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so why wouldn't you just say under nine like what the fuck i mean under 10 it's a round number i
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might as well just say that okay what about you no comment i don't want to share that no yeah
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how about park it do you want to do like a range no i'll pass i'll go is it more than 10
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All right, W, guys, W's in the chat for the women who are honest
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and will give the answer, W's in the chat for them for being good sports.
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Well, honest in the sense that they're just like, here's my body count,
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Well, no, I'm not saying I'm just saying like of the women who did say it.
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I'm debating right now if I say the real yellow.
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girl you have to think about it damn she's got game she did a cleansing it resets would you say
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i mean i had i had a quite a bit of hoe faces for sure um can we leave it at that no we need
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the details we need the details um girl you got game i think mine might actually be more wait guys
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I don't know if I'm satisfied with this answer.
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So it's fair to say somewhere between 100 and 200.
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but you did say you think it's over 100 i said potentially it's potentially over 100
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well i'm glad you said sorry dad because that's how i was going to start my statement and i'm
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pretty sure i said it in the notes and i'm with greta as well in here uh out of respect to my
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father because it's more than one i will not disclose the number because i don't think that's
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something that should be a public knowledge may i ask one question uh so it's more than one is it
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less than 10 as i said i wouldn't disclose the number it could be okay all right
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all right uh you can pull up that chat from from rachel uh yo w's in the chat for
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rachel rachel wilson step right up to the karaoke i don't know what the fuck i'm doing
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okay all right shout out rachel wilson w rachel wilson in the chapter okay uh i don't know if
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there's another one that came in there perhaps possibly possibly from somebody else you guys
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can obviously pull up the super chats as they come in uh also oh you know what speaking of
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rachel wilson debate university.com guys if you want to learn how to become a master debater
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debate university.com uh fuck a little slow on that one all right thank you for the super chats
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guys much appreciated guys if you're enjoying the stream like the video reminder ten dollar
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display hundred dollar tt uh excuse me hundred dollar read two hundred dollar tts all right
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let's get back into the questionnaire blast through this as quick as possible how tall are
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you and what's the minimum height of a man you would date i am 5 11 i frequently wear heels so
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i'm like 6 3 when i walk into most rooms and i would date a guy the same height as me i'd prefer
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to date a taller guy but like if he's like the perfect guy but he's like 5 10 then like i would
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totally date him especially if he has a good face card like if he's really attractive okay so 5 11
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but uh six well you're 5'11 and 6'2 is ideal for you yeah like I want to be the same height as me
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in heels okay uh all right what about uh what about you I'm 5'1 um the shortest guy I would
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date is 5'7 okay you I'm 5'5 I think my minimum is maybe 5'5 5'6 I think for me what's important
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is as long as he can fight and defend me then I'm okay with whatever height okay next
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I prefer a little taller, close to six foot probably, six foot, but my husband was five six.
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Bro, you keep fucking with the mic, we tell you not to fuck with the mic
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You've literally moved it like a dozen times
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Yeah, but that's because I'm moving back and forward
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A condition of your gaining access to the studio
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you simply follow the rules it's not that hard every other woman here has done a pretty good
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job of it besides you i've seen a couple move the mic here and back really not you've i've had to
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tell you like seven times to move the mic back to where it is definitely less than that no it's
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been seven times most likely definitely less than that all right so do you deny that you've
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repeatedly moved to the mic when i've told you okay i understand i've moved the mic a couple
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put the hat on but but the fucking hat on i'm not wearing that you deserve to wear that shit
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i'm not wearing that you look so good in it i'm not a jet might even be hotter in that shit
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like i didn't want to fuck you before but you put that shit on listen i don't want to turn you on
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on the on the podcast relax well i mean it might be more something like this i don't know i'm gonna
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pretend like you didn't just make my dick go soft i highly doubt it i feel like your dick's off 24
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seven but anyway we move okay goofball fucking weirdo you're a dork you're okay lady the sexual
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tension i'm telling you i think there's a difference between sexual tension and just
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fucking migraine annoyance yeah it's really not that hard though we give you instructions before
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the show like don't move the mic i'm being comfortable your comfort does not supersede
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our rules like am i not speaking still speaking into the mic it doesn't matter if am i still
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getting condition of being on the show is you damn bro this is this is what you're dealing with with
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these women like they're contentious and they want to fucking bicker and argue like you're in my
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studio we have rules if you don't fucking like them like if somebody goes to your house and you're
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like hey i don't it could be anything hey take your shoes off at the door and they're like you
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know what fuck you i'm leaving my shoes on uh how are you gonna react to that did i ever say fuck
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you i'm gonna leave the mic across no there's more than one way i'm just becoming there's more
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than one way to say fuck you okay one of the ways you can say fuck you to somebody shut up i'm still
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giving don't tell me i just i'm still i'm still giving something to the podcast huh okay i said
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i'm still giving something i don't fucking care i don't care how entertaining you are if you're
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not which you aren't by the way you're mostly in the line yes i am if you're not going to abide by
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our rules and our guidelines for how we're going to run our product our production then you know
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and again there's more than what there's more than one way to say you when you're intentionally
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continually you're you're a what does charlie murphy say in uh that dave chappelle skit
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a habitual line stepper you are a habitual line stepper that's what you are well
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are you just going to be obnoxious here it's very simple why don't you apologize
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apologize for what for continuously okay if we've told you to do something and you keep breaking the
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rule you ought to apologize and be like sorry i won't do it again i'll fix it instead you're now
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arguing with me about i literally said when you said okay can you move the mic forward i said okay
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fine i'll do that i understand that i understand that okay maybe i might have moved the mic a
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a couple times and now you're starting to rebut me and give me multiple you know rebuttals like
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i said and just try to you know back me into a corner and try to get on to me like listen i
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told you okay i understand you've been obnoxious and rude to me the entire night no i haven't
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you've been yeah you've you've laid in like multiple digs the entire night uh that you're
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yes you have you dumb fucking idiot you don't call me a fucking idiot you are a dumb fucking
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no i'm fucking not yes you are you've been laying fucking digs in you are listen you are a pseudo
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intellectual that wants to come across as a stoic individual yeah you have emotions you show emotion
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on podcast you act like you're more intellectual than you are you want you care about more seeing
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knowledgeable than actually being knowledgeable name ask you name name 10 books that you've read
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go on so it's my podcast yeah i'm gonna name 10 books for you oh you're not gonna name 10 books
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for me hey tiffany and nathan when she was uh 30 minutes late did she apologize to you guys when
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she pulled up uh no she was mad she was mad she was mad at you oh well on the on the chat you said
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why the fuck are you xyz i showed you a picture of where i was at i was at the lift downstairs
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geografical shit everywhere has lifts yeah okay so you were 30 minutes late were you not
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Yes, I was, but I told you where I was at, and I told you in advance that I might be a little bit late due to traffic.
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Also, traffic is not bad on Sundays in Santa Barbara.
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I think all these other women drove here or did some other shit, so please don't tell me about the traffic.
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No, you could have left at like 3.30, 3 p.m.
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Instead, you were busy posting dumbass fucking stories on your Instagram.
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If it took you 10, 20 minutes to do those stories, perhaps that time ought to have been used to have planned more appropriately.
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In any case, when you were late, you didn't apologize to me.
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I was going to apologize, but I saw your text or whoever texted me.
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and it was not very hostile yes because you were late yes hold on i'll explain one not only were
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you 30 minutes late let me ask the panel here in uh okay so uh about a week ago for those of you
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who we put on schedule like back do we tell you not just like the address but like where specifically
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we want you to meet like we give you okay here's the specific spot you need to go and in addition
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to that today, did I send you guys a link that's like a Google street view of the precise location
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where you need to be? So I sent that. I sent you this show information a week ago. I sent you a
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Google street view. I mean, it shows up as a photo on Instagram when you look at it.
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You somehow, despite waiting all this time in the cab, it didn't occur to you. And mind you,
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I also say in the pre-show information, be sure to read all the information, which I assume you
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forgot uh for a few factors here so you could have just simply uh maybe read the pre-show instructions
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that we indicate to you are important and uh i give very clear instructions you could have gone
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to the appropriate place so not only were you 30 minutes late i had to send my my assistant
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on the fucking wild goose chase to go find you in the other place in which you were it wasn't a wild
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goose chase i was exactly at the place that you told me i sent you a picture you said the wrong
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fucking door okay okay and then i wasn't at the wrong fucking door then after when you when you
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when you when your assistant came to me and said okay we have to go through this she came through
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some random door and then put me to the to the right door to the correct door i literally said
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i was here ask her ask her ask her i forgot her name
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what was that did i tell you at that point i was at the door
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no yes yes i did yes i did yes i did she just found her in because she's she's scared of you
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i literally told her i was at that door i showed her the picture i sent her the picture no no no
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i'm not i know exactly where i was and then she brought me back to the exact door that i was at
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and i was like i was already at this fucking door why can't you see why can't you know why can't you
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know you were initially at the wrong door no i wasn't i came i came to the right door then i
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came back outside and then i showed you the picture and you said you're at the wrong door
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no i was exactly at the right door i was supposed to be she was down there she was waiting at the
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correct door you were not there maybe she didn't recognize me i was at the right place i was exactly
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i'm not a liar you just don't want to believe what you don't want to believe and i wasn't half
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an hour late i was 17 minutes late you were more late than that no i was not i could literally pull
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up the security cameras and find exactly when you stepped through the door like you were late yeah
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Because I was waiting around the place that I was supposed to be
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I sent you multiple pictures and you said no that's wrong
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Every other woman was able to find the correct door
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If you can't understand it then that's not my fault
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If you don't want to accept it, if you don't want to hold it, then fine, that's on you.
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I don't gain anything from saying, oh, I was late, I wasn't late.
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I'll say, yeah, cool, I was on late, and I'll stand on it.
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I came back outside, and then you said I was at the wrong door again.
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Then your assistant came out and said, and then showed me to the correct door.
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When we came to the correct door, what did I tell you, Tiffany?
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Did I already say that I was at that door previously?
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We cannot have this many people up from the table at once.
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We cannot have this many people up from the table at once.
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stop I mean you were rude to me earlier with some of the comments and it just you're not
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controlling your table properly and just stop everybody's not here for this so let's just move
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on agree to disagree for right now my armpits are sweating so bad right now it's getting
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my deodorant is I have like no aluminum in my deodorant right now
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Heavenly Father, please protect this table and just give us peace.
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Just some people have demons lurking inside them.
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no i was asking you i have demons as in the question
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no that was a statement but anyway we moved you're not going to tell me what my intention was
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when i just clarified what it was so you said some people have demons are you referring to me
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i was just saying that the way the room is moving right now it seems like some people
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have demons if you want to include yourself in that then fair enough who are the people
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that you think have demons don't worry say it with your chest um you've been saying it all
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with your chest so far of course who do you think has demons okay fine you you of course you yeah
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um yeah these ones are good well definitely this side yes we got the trifecta of demons right here
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on this side i don't know i think i have some demons yeah um okay i was trying to be cool but
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fine if you want to take it out i mean i i look i i'd perhaps be interested to hear from the women
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here i mean i think it's fair to say and it would be accurate to state that uh that throughout the
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course of this podcast you have snuck in like multiple multiple digs uh primarily in my direction
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but also in the direction of some of the women, which I have not returned back to you.
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I don't know if the women tend to agree with me on that,
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or of course the sisterhood might come into play.
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Men should provide protect, men should be chivalrous
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Husband should be willing to die protecting you
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But you're going to keep your last name or hyphenate marriage?
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Okay, so if your husband wants you to take his last name
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uh okay um all right well i mean i think that's all the questions i have for you
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uh alicia so thank you for uh joining us appreciate it cool
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okay well trying to be polite here but can you tell me to like get the fuck out
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uh no i'm not gonna be i'm not gonna say it like that but i'd ask you to uh kindly leave
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are you like her you're triggered no i just think for the sake of the other panelists
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just so we can get into like i feel like you have dominated the conversation a little bit
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i think to be fair to them so we aren't here forever and we continuously bicker
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uh i think it's fair for me to ask you to voluntarily leave at this moment but given
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that i've just trespassed you i don't feel any further need to have to justify my reason for
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asking you leave your consent to be here has been revoked so i'm now politely asking you to leave
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okay before i leave i'll just say it one who has dominated the conversation the most i don't care
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can you kindly just get up and leave you know what cool i'll get the fuck out of here enjoy
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all right thank you very much appreciate it
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okay well have a good night thank you for coming thank you good night peace peace out
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So why don't you sit back because we're about to get into your notes.
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I don't want you to feel like it was a waste of time.
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Oh, like there was a lot of things you wanted to talk about.
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I feel like it would not be fair to you to finish it.
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okay so you're coming back okay no i'm not going to be i'm not going to be rude to you
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you've been very polite so i'm not going to be rude to you but i feel like she's been disruptive
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so um okay so okay well people have been rude to me tonight so it is i'm not really interested in
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having a meta conversation I about what has just transpired I'd rather continue on with the show
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and try to move it along hey Tiffany um yeah so um okay well so uh like uh you know please uh
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Okay, so we had, wait, okay, we're waiting on her.
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So, hey, listen, we can't have you remain in the studio,
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so if you can, please grab your stuff and leave, please, okay?
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Yeah, respectfully, once somebody, we're just asking you to, you got to leave.
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We can't have you stay in the studio once, yeah, okay, sounds good.
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Please just show her the stairway door, please, just so she knows where it is.
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all right uh that was interesting uh i feel like we should move people a little bit
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maybe i could have people shift can i have she's gonna sit down can i have you three uh shift down
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just one seat one seat please for me uh i think that'll make things a little easier for me there
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you can you can stay here but i'm just gonna uh yeah it should still be fine i guess
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maybe we get rid of one chair i guess they could yeah yeah well we'll leave the chair
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we'll leave the chair we're not going to complicate it too much uh is tiffany back
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okay did you close the lock okay all right there you go there you go it had to fucking happen
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uh chat what do you think chat yay or nay a bit overdue i mean it fucking had to happen she came
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in um guns blazing you've done it five hours yeah i should have i mean she's lucky we even
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let her on because uh she was like 20 30 minutes late um she's lucky we even let her on she came
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on with a terrible attitude didn't even apologize um that she was late anyways she's gone not don't
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really feel inclined to give her more time or attention or talk about her more she's gone
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so yeah uh okay i did want to get into uh your notes here because i think there might have been
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some interesting stuff there so delia uh you said you've been let's see here uh you're a christian
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correct yes sir you say glory to god in your instagram bio uh what denomination are you i'm
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christian you're a christian i'm a baptist christian sorry yeah i mean denomination would
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be like protestant you could break it down of course there's different protestant denominations
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uh catholic orthodox etc but so you're baptist okay protestant okay uh do you go to church every
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sunday uh primarily yes okay uh you write that you're a professional yapper what does that mean
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what does that mean when you're a professional yapper i post um story times on my tiktok
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not big but um i do a lot of story times and i talk on tiktok lives for um brands so i'm
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constantly talking i'm professionally a yapper so and it's kind of funny because i got that name
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told to me several times and it's been in my bio and nobody's even read my bio so yeah that's that's
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me okay um and is it it's in your dating bio or just your instagram bio i should put it in my
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dating bio as a warning but as a warning okay well at least she's self-aware i guess because
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i was gonna say i was gonna say i don't think generally speaking men would value
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professional yapping as like a green flag or something anyways they should because i don't
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have a voice when i go home so now you were recently in your notes and we i guess we uh
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i guess we recently had talked about this well sort of the topic uh you're recently on a date
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and you said the guy tried to guilt you and say that renee good was in the wrong and then he
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proceeded to make fun of the fact we had sex yeah was the renee good conversation before
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during or after the sex definitely after there's nothing like having sex with a liberal woman
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and mid pump oh my god saying that you want to deport all the illegal immigrants that's my
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that's actually how i do dirty talk um if i'm having not that i'm inclined to have sex with
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liberal women but sometimes look sometimes I get duped sometimes I get you know if her labia is
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big enough if her labia is big enough she can I might tolerate her briefly uh but um yeah I do um
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I sometimes I think it is good good dirty talk if you're having sex with a liberal woman
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to just piss her off on political takes during sex and it's kind of exciting it's dirty talk
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You know, it's like, it's like, yeah, you know, um, trans women aren't women and they
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just get really wet, which is weird, but also upset.
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I don't like descriptively hearing about your sex life.
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it's just a bit it's a little bit too long of a of a of a story deep it's a long it's long and
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it's like very graphic it's graphic it's graphic it's really not that i kind of have to like sit
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here and like block it out otherwise i have a very like uh yeah well that's how i feel about
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your tiktoks but i mean we'll talk about that okay we'll talk about that later but uh i guess
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back to this um so okay did you know he was like uh like is he a mega trump guy or how did uh how
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did that convo go with a that can I have you tilt your mic down just a bit for me um like this yeah
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perfect um actually the the the way I've met him was at my job and um we ended up liking each other
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because he's very he's very good looking um and then I found out that he had a daughter and then
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that was really cool and then i went over to his house and then um and then uh i got a text
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and then a call of a woman telling me to get that fuck out of her house um so yeah so i knew that
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he was a piece of shit but did you this was this was five years ago no he couldn't wait five years
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ago yeah this is fine no but renee good that just happened no no i know this part happened five
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years ago oh this is a guy you've been you've done fucked with before yes in the past yes but
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we didn't have sex back then or kind of not it didn't happen like no definitely not that
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no definitely not that hand job no just he tried heavy petting didn't oh i guess you could say it
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was a hand job nothing no job happened she gets it i don't know sometimes for some people just go
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okay all right uh okay so but okay the renee good thing so hey was this your first time hooking up
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or had you hooked up a couple times no this is their first the first so first time hooking up
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and then like post oh the glory of first time sex you're laying there you're all endorphins or
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fucking what were the the things women release serotonin or oxytocin women are the post sex
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glow and then he's just like leans over while you guys are cuddling and he's like you know what we
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got to do we got to deport them all like did was that does that how it went or what no did i tell
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you about the time before that with the chicken the chicken yeah he wanted oh like actual fried
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chicken but like really quick has anybody eaten while having sex like eating food not like off
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the person just like like i don't know you're just like chowing down laying there that's another
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level of fat i know yeah someone might be in i don't know i feel like i get motion sickness i
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don't think i have grapes it's too much like i'm not talking like not like whipped cream like actual
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food you could choke oh i've i've done it wait but hold on let's let's have you i think i did
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like whipped cream or something but not like full-blown meat or something yeah that's that's
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not what we're talking about wait the renee good thing explain it so okay what was going on
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um okay so the okay so preemptively i didn't i he wanted to like take me out another like a previous
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story he wanted to take me out so he drove like two hours to come get me and we hung out and we
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were sitting in his car and we were waiting for the fried chicken he's like i really want fried
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chicken i was like okay let's get you some fried chicken so while we're sitting there he like
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blasts like a cop video where like the cop is like shooting at this guy and kills him
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and he's like giggling like a little boy like a cat video and i was like what are you doing and
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it's like on his it's on his speakers like in his car loud as shit and it's like triggering to me
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because of some of my personal things with guns and stuff so i was like hey can you shut that
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shit off like what are you doing and then he got mad at me for telling him to shut it off and he
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said well you need to get the fuck together because i'm gonna be a cop and once i'm a cop
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this is gonna be what i'm doing and i'm gonna risk my life for you and mind you this is like
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second type of thing can you scoot that chair in and just put the baby there oh you brought your
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baby yeah adoptive baby we can tell but black baby i mean i am technically african-american
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is the thing as you identify right no well i'm not you did say that you did strong independent
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black women that's what you said okay so the chicken and then the but the he was watching
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like a body cam cop video or something yeah okay and was like laughing i mean that's a little
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he was like giggling because the guy was dying in the video and i thought it was a justified
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shooting though it wasn't it was a justified shooting you can obviously tell them that the
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guy was like it's definitely a bad taste yeah like morally i don't know it's bad yeah that's
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bad it's definitely a bad taste like i think you can be like well that guy fucking he was doing
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something wrong it was justified killing but to laugh laugh at even a justified killing i think
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is in bad taste but uh the renee good thing so do you think renee good was in the right
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okay so flat mind you he took me home after that like immediately after i was like take me home
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and he said okay so then two three days later i posted a video of renee good i was like this is
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getting crazy i don't even know if i might still have the story but i was like this is getting
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crazy he just sends me a bunch of laughing emojis it's like she got what she deserved
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she should just listen to law enforcement and like the video and like every angle
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it shows it shows different angles so to me my opinion i feel that it was unwarranted shooting
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that's wrong so for you to like sit here and be in my dms and like you're a freaking idiot
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did like she deserved it what a stupid liberal like that was just like out of left field so
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then i had to block him on everything okay yeah so i guess two things there i
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that should not have triggered tts my bad trouble finding the place in the u.s yet
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managed to hang around the biggest favela in brazil imagine that i'm not sure i'm not aware
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of her favela thing or whatever but uh yeah uh bro could you imagine being married to her though
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she bro it'd be like i mean she's a quarrelsome woman i mean it would just be like constant
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conflict with her on the edge from the get-go it would it's just constant conflicts but anyways
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um just a penny dated i picture her being with like a like a tatted like fashion gangbanger
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skinny guy i don't know god like central c vibes the the a woman like that or even just a like a
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very high conflict person there's really two options for them one of which is they need to
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be with someone like way more toxic who will like much they like they they thrive in like
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that toxicity some people like the the toxicity bounces off each other and like it's bad but they
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like enjoy that or whatever or he has to be so passive so soft but like a like a center of the
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road guy who not passive but doesn't react to it like it's gonna drive him fucking crazy so anyways
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um but the renee good thing okay so you said the guy was saying she deserved it now i disagree with
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that uh i don't think anyone uh even if they have some degree of uh what's the right word
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they have a degree what's the word the legal term for when you call culpability
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so Renee Good has some culpability in this she's not entirely innocent uh but regardless of you
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know your culpability uh I think it's awful to say that someone deserves like absent like the
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worst of the worst criminals that someone deserves to die in this case I don't believe Renee Good
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deserved to die uh you can maybe say this about men who like essay women you could say like
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severely, I guess, or like repeat offenders or people who murder people or people who abuse
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children or people who do other crimes to children. These people deserve to die. But
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Renee Good, while what she was doing was wrong, I don't think she deserved to die. Now, that's a
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different, I think that's different than was the shooting justified? I do think there's arguments,
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compelling arguments that the shooting most likely was while unfortunate as it may be was
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justified perhaps you might disagree but that would be my position that the shooting was unjustified
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well no so you think it was just unfortunate as it may be that she did die uh i think you can make
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a case that the that she put herself in such a position that I don't think we can necessarily
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be surprised by the outcome can I ask you something that you just said sure don't you
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think that the worst of offenders getting a death sentence are just getting off easy
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um i mean it it depends i mean uh you you might argue that life in prison could be a worse
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punishment than death although most of the times if you're on death row it's going to be 10 20 years
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before you actually get executed because of all the appeals so i mean they're still going to do
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a significant amount of time in prison it's not like you murder somebody and then one year later
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you're going to be, uh, executed. Um, I don't know actually which would be preferable. Truthfully,
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if I somehow committed a crime that warranted the death penalty, I actually think I would prefer,
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I actually think I'd prefer to remain alive. Maybe that's just me. Maybe other people disagree.
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Maybe they'd prefer to just kill me. I personally would prefer to stay in jail, uh, just be in jail,
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be in prison for the rest of my life if i had a choice i guess i don't know what the chat thinks
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but um but that's a bit besides the point um i don't know if you have the thoughts on the renee
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good thing or i personally don't understand what what would be justifiable when you've seen like
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the different angles you read the reports of the wife saying that they had to go through the detour
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because of the riots got stuck in between riots and then the guy didn't even get touched by the
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car it was another officer didn't do anything who then was like kind of spiffed like that
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and that's because he was the one trying to tell people go this way but then this random officer
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came out of nowhere claimed to get hit and then shot her and i think that was an ego boost especially
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because when you are just like if you're doing something wrong your normal thing is to say sorry
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or oh fuck the immediate reaction was fucking bitch i'm sorry but if i have a reasonable thing
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to talk to if i'm reasonable or if i'm justified in something why would i be targeting them a split
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second after and putting them down in that sense you just shot her in the face like i don't to me
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that just doesn't logically make sense well i think so for example i could see myself if i was
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hit by a car and perhaps he didn't know in that very split second adrenaline rush situation that
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he like fully killed her but I could see myself like if somebody hit me with a car I'd be like
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fucking bitch so I don't think it's surprising that like if you've just been struck accidentally
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like for example I here's a stupid story I can't believe I this actually I remember this I remember
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when I was at camp and I don't know someone had a hose and I was like in I was wearing clothes it
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wasn't I don't know someone had a hose and they like I don't know if they intentionally did it
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but they like soaked me and I did not want to be wet and I was like you fucking bitch and I was
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like 10 years old or something um so like when you've just been like I don't know something
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happens to you like sometimes you'll let out an expletive in this way I don't think it's evidence
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of malice, but there's a couple things here. So she was interfering with a bona fide ICE
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investigation. She was genuinely interfering. She did in fact strike him with the car.
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Some people in the chat are saying, just to be clear, it was justified. I don't know why people
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in the chat are, Brian's too soft. It's justified, bro. I said it was justified, but I don't think
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people should be happy that she died. Even if you think it's justified, I don't think you should be
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happy that that was the outcome. I don't think you should be happy that she's dead. She didn't
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deserve to die. It's an unfortunate thing as it is. It was justified, but I don't think we should
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be happy that she died. But she did interfere with the thing. She was given a lawful order
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to exit her vehicle if a police officer tells you get out of your car that's not the time to start
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driving away in the direction of a law enforcement officer in this case can i ask you a question
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if i were to if i had a bb gun and i were to pull it out on a police officer and he killed me with
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his real gun is that a justified shooting if you pulled out a pointed thing that looks like a gun
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trying to hurt him yeah or just not even like it could be um like a fake gun that's not even a
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bb gun i get it but her driving away because one officer told her to leave so this is completely
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different i believe the supreme court has been very clear on this uh vehicles can be uh vehicles
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are deadly weapons clearly vehicles if they run over somebody can can severely injure somebody
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or even kill them this could be a deadly weapon this could be right this could be i could use her
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and beat you with it you know i mean like yeah but that obvious cars kill more people than guns do
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but microphones do not kill find me a case i mean maybe it's possible i mean i'm sure a microphone
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somebody swallowed a microphone or some retarded shit but uh microphones are not typically used
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for killing people generally speaking a car can be used as a weapon we see it all the time
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uh officers can be run down it happens it was clearly a massive mistake for her to start
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driving off after she's given a lawful order and with a law enforcement officer basically directly
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in front of the car she starts to turn and as she's turning yeah he gets off to the side a bit
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but he does get side swiped or something he does get hit it's unfortunate what happened
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it's unfortunate what happened the shooting was justified
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anyways just maybe anyways whatever we're not gonna linger on fucking
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renee good forever uh you said a guy cheated on his girl with you and then they both hit you up
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for a threesome oh yeah that was him wait did you keep seeing this guy after the renee good thing
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no this was in between so like remember i said that i hung out with him and then
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i've met his girl yeah through messages okay she ended up liking me and invited me to a threesome
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and then i said with who and it was him and then he texted me zombie just really quick
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final thing on renee good he had the internal bleeding uh from like getting struck by the car
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uh so i mean that adds some component to it i don't know the video it was icy roads he could
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have slipped and fallen under the car gotten fucking crushed who knows what could have
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happened obviously fucking terrible situation but um okay let's move on you don't think that
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could have been a cover-up like anything else what what's a cover-up um the fact that ice has
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been making poor choices when it comes to handling people who have the right to go against them
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when it comes to the detriment of the society when they're constantly hurting people firing
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bullets i was actually trying to tell you earlier that and i got cut off that i was actually at the
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la riot when they were sending out the bullets and they went off off nothing so yes there are
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times where ice is not right so if people are going to fight against it you're you're saying
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you were you were at an la riot yeah where they were talking about the the viral video where
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everyone was going crazy because the bullets went off is it in the bag tiffany or is it just back
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here. I mean, I don't think you need to give me attitude when it's like, obviously it's going to
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be frustrating when we tell people to turn their phones off and like a phone's going off. It's not
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that I'm obviously frustrated at the phone. It's not that big of a deal. Okay. You're welcome to
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DAY I WASN'T SUGGESTING THAT YOU SHOULD BE YOU SHOULD LEAVE BECAUSE I GOT FRUSTRATED BY THE PHONE
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UH OKAY SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE WERE YOU SAID YOU WERE AT AN LA PROTEST AND THEY WERE SHOOTING
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WHAT RUBBER BULLETS OR SOMETHING YEAH WE DON'T WE DON'T HAVE TO TALK ABOUT IT WE CAN TALK ABOUT
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SOMETHING ELSE GO AHEAD WHY UM OKAY SO UH YEAH SO UM I SORRY I FORGOT KIND OF WHAT YOU WERE SAYING
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because i got distracted there um but uh yeah i mean to suggest that renee good is some
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completely innocent bystander seems a little ridiculous to me she's interfering with
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bona fide ice investigation i mean yeah okay
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okay well uh i guess we'll move it off from the renee good shit but
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uh you said you're intrigued by the idea of polygamy even though you grew up around religion
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that disproves of it what do you mean by that um just the fact that we do have an animalistic
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nature and i feel as though the more that we progress and evolve with technology it makes it
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harder for us to to stay in a in a in a i guess like a i kind of forgot i said that in a like a
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state where we're comfortable always with our partner I see I just see so many couples divorcing
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after 10 years 20 years 40 years and it's because they're unhappy and it's because I feel like we
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don't know how to um we have so much going on right in our faces all the time with our technology
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with it progressing we don't have that limitation of this is my person and I only want to be with
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this person so I think it opens it up and I feel like every single person I've tried to
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be in a relationship with has multiple partners and i was never over i was never about that again
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like i grew up baptist christian since i was born so it was really weird to me to be like oh yeah
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like you can date and have sex i'm just gonna be here so yeah i was interested in it because
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i was asked to be in a throuple not just a threesome like a throuple did you do the
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throuple no no okay so you're not like polyamory or polygamy no no no but like you're just like
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poly curious i guess like i don't know so you would do it i don't know like i i don't know
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i mean okay it's not very christian just saying well of course yeah yeah no it's not it's definitely
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not christian by any means on the standards you should be poly curious if you're christian
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okay so um we're not technically supposed to get drunk and i've gotten drunk before it doesn't
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Mormons, LDS, there's two different branches of LDS.
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The mainstream, the mainline LDS, they're not polygamist.
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nothing prevents christians from drinking alcohol what is the blood of jesus
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the blood of jesus yes wine yes how is a non-christian lecturing a like i go to church
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every sunday baptist i'm agnostic how am i lecturing you on i don't know why you're lecturing
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you should just be having a conversation but you said what is the blood of christ
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how do you not know what the blood of christ is because i didn't know what you were asking
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To clarify, you can clarify if it's the gift that you receive as salvation, the body, the
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Son, and the Holy Spirit, or if you were talking about what we actually take for our communion,
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which is, yes, it's going to be wine, a.k.a. grape juice.
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So there's nothing that prevents Christians from drinking alcohol.
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getting drunk is that what you said then maybe i misheard i thought you were just saying drinking
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perhaps i miss her she did say abusing alcohol which we then agreed upon did she say abusing
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alcohol she did drunkness yeah she did i think you were just talking to bretta in the meantime
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about she did okay well then i am wrong and i'm a terrible person okay uh moving on to the next
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notes i guess here we need to get back to the questionnaire uh let's see uh disagreements with
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the show someone asked um about bald men actually it's below the threshold they have to send it at
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a higher rate um let's see okay she's gone goodbye be gone fucking sorry hold on i gotta do this
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out you go to the spanish speaker uh well you understand that if you're spanish speaker i
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should say uh we're not going to do the bear oh okay uh here let's do this uh women are just as
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physically strong as men gertrude you said sort sort of yeah i said sort of could have you just
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straighten up with the mic so you're like sitting straight yeah i think that i think that women can
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be i mean we kind of spoke about this earlier i don't think on average that's why i said sorta
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okay like there definitely are women that are stronger than men have you tilt us straight in
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your mic so it's like pointing straight towards you a little more that was good okay perfect
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all right so well yeah we already talked about that i think especially lower body strength
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uh well even lower body strength i would say men are stronger than women uh delia you circled
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that you agree women are just as physically strong as men why is that i did you did maybe
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did you not mean to that they are physically i mean some of them are probably as strong as men
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some bodybuilders are yeah as some well how about this if it's all in all then no well how about
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like the strongest is the strongest male stronger than the strongest female yes okay well uh
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so i agree that some women are stronger than some men but it's an exception okay so you're not
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talking like in general for you nope okay uh let's see we have from uh you uh you you didn't
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put your name at the top zarina it's yeah zarina zarina dreams okay uh you did like half women are
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the primary victims of war not men why is that um can i can as much closer to the mic please
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It's hard because I'm still not even at the table.
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my mother was there in Germany during the war.
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in different wars like vietnam etc etc so yes there is high body counts on both sides of male
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and female so i do acknowledge that women can be like civilian women uh can be victims of this
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crime that you're referencing and death murder uh yeah sure although babies were thrown up in
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the air in vietnam and shot and went into a pit of yeah bit of bodies uh absolutely however knowing
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what we know about warfare so there's no dispute that bad things happen to women in war
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But when we're talking about the primary victim of war, you think it's like 50-50 between men and women?
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I would say in the past, there was a lot more men body count.
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Nowadays, I would say it's 50-50 because there are women soldiers, et cetera.
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And there isn't as many deaths in the war.
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There are still plenty of deaths, but it's not as many as it used to be.
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Well, of the military deaths, you're saying that there were women in war.
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No, but with the crime against the people that are living there, et cetera, et cetera.
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So men, I would say more in the past when they were doing the –
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I would argue men also still today are still the primary victims of war.
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I would actually say they might be more of the victims of war now.
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as there used to be when they were fighting in the trenches
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But if we're talking about victims of war.
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How many men are you willing to let die to prevent one rape?
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How many men am I willing to let die because of war when we don't really need it?
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So how many men are you willing to let die to prevent one rape?
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or do you not allow i would prefer none and i would prefer the women not being raped
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and they're not one rape you wouldn't let one man die
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say it's just a random dude you got a kid to prevent dude no to prevent a rape you have to
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kill some random guy not you physically but they just die well i could okay so we've created some
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degree of like uh you know okay degree of suffering so the reality is when it comes to war
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although these women also were murdered too okay yes some women die uh and rapes do occur during
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war there's no dispute there however if more men die in war then women are raped even if we were
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to grant that uh one death is the equivalent of suffering suffering of one rape then you would
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have i said more of the death of the people uh women children uh innocent people but primarily
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the men there's more men who die in total than do women die during wars
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because they're the soldiers kind of really think about that a little bit well unless like it's just
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some like crazy fucked up total war but a lot of times most wars uh most wars it's usually
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now there are civilian deaths but the the majority of deaths are well it depends how you frame you
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add those men into it depends how you frame it but typically like the people who are killed uh
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now look a lot of civilians died in world war ii world war one yes however that would like also
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encompass male civilians exactly and uh like boys so children i didn't take that into account which
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would then be 50 50 between boys and girls if children are dying 50 of them are boys
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So you then have to contend with the idea that 99% of the military deaths are men.
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Because in Israel, women have to go to, by the way, in the military.
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So even female soldiers, women can volunteer in the United States military.
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women typically are not seeing like the most intensive combat they're not seeing really they're
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not really seeing uh like combat situations all that much now look you can get attacked or
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whatever but typically women are not like sent off like to intentionally be in combat like having be
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uh sent for combat yeah maybe it's okay but uh all right moving on to the next thing uh we have
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uh we have hold on uh delia you write women can't be sexist towards men uh why is that
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women can't be sexist towards you you agree with that statement and then you also agreed
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with that statement karina i know my brain is like everywhere you know um
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i feel like i i read the the question is they shouldn't be sexist shouldn't i have read that
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the same way so the the meaning is more so there's this idea that um women because they're like a
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they shouldn't but they can they're oppressed that if a woman is hateful or bigoted or has
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prejudice towards men that it it uh it wouldn't be labeled as sexist that's what i'm getting at
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oh in our heads it would be still yeah we just read it wrong both okay so you so then you would
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say that women have the ability the capacity to be sexist okay then i suppose uh it was just a
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misunderstanding there well what about people of color do you think people of color can be racist
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towards white people absolutely yes okay uh let me see if uh ivy uh she's gone i'll come back to
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there's like way too many people up from can it can we do try to do like one person up at a time
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because like half the panel disappears um all right we have uh let's see
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uh okay ivy's still gone i guess here greta can you um can you read this one please
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does having unlimited options on apps actually make you more selective
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or has it conditioned you to treat high quality men as disposable
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the moment they stop being a source of entertainment
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no can i answer that at all sure from my perspective and i was going to say this earlier
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on uh personally when i have used tinder in the past and if i agreed to go on a date with someone
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from tinder and after that date if i wanted to see the person again i would date tinder it takes
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two minutes to open a new account you know and this is back to the original conversation of
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giving somebody your full undivided attention when you're going to go out and date so um i don't
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treat men disposable on dating apps i very much respect them and give them the time of the day
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oh i recognize your name you are right about men in war brian just walked through the som region
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in france one cemetery 22,665 young men and most died in one battle one of the bloodiest in history
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but women have it so age i think we're gonna say hard a cloud i recognize your name thank you man
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appreciate it what's interesting to me it seems like it to me it seems so obvious if you know
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anything about history, if you know anything about warfare, like it's, it's indisputable
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that the, the sort of differential in, in gender, uh, impact is like completely disproportionate
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in the direction of men. Men are clearly the primary victims of war. Men are clearly the
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primary sufferers of war. And it's like, women can't even give you that. They can't even give
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you the most obvious like the most obvious way in which men suffer they can't even give you
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like it's what it isn't it obvious don't speak for all the women well no okay not all women but
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it seems a lot of the time they can't even give you they won't even give you the bread crumb of
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like the the little crumb of like you know what this might be the you know what on the war thing
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men have it worse you know in every other way women have it worse you know but on the war thing
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you know what you guys got us on that you know it's interesting to me um okay moving on i did
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get it kind of backwards but i'm also thinking about what my mother said about what happened
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during the war well look again women suffered terrible things happened to everybody during
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the war terrible things happened to women i'm not going to diminish the terrible things that
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happened to women in war because it absolutely does happen i think i kind of got it backwards
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and i'm a little tired now yeah it's okay back to the question i feel like there aren't many
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high quality men on dating apps i don't really use dating apps for that reason but yeah like i feel
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like some people would like treat guys like that as disposable uh ivy you ivy you write uh people
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of color can't be racist towards white people why is that um it just doesn't work that way
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last time you had brought up people in africa killing white people but at the end of the day
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there's still like that goes to show like there's still not the white people aren't really oppressed
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they're just like still not like pretty much on their land i guess in africa yeah he said that
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like tribes will go and kill white people and that like that's considered racism
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i think outside of the context of america like in south africa there is like racism towards
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white people because white people are outnumbered by like yes black people yeah but that doesn't
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make it race there's racism towards white people here yes and there's racism i feel like your
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argument would stand in america but like sometimes like no i don't think there's racism here i met
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into a girlfriend's house because her boyfriend's
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black, she's black, and he's like, no, white
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can say... As a minority, I feel like I have
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I thought Mexicans were allowed to say the N-word.
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say the n-word depends on where you live but yes where i'm from they can have you said the n-word
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yes i have during sex to a blackout that's crazy not during sex oh you reminded me of another one
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this one time probably 16 never mind uh okay like i feel like people can be racist to white people
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but if you're like a white person and you just have this like victim mentality of like oh people
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are gonna be racist towards me i don't think that's quite right like i i can't say prejudice
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yes racist no yeah well so her she gave a good example though uh my girl
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zarina dreams howard stern's favorite big busted sorry she has a clip sorry you guys don't know
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what i'm talking about she's got this funny clip on her instagram that's like i think was that ai
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generated by the way actually yes that was but i've done his show but you have done over a decade
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Would you like to know some of the real things Howard said about me and to my mother about my mother raising a real woman?
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Well, yes, Howard did have a little thing.
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and then can I let's do this this will be easier let me have you guys scoot back down
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fix the mics and then you get to sit there I feel like that'll be easier I was just I feel
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like that'll be easier so you're not you're not in the corner so we we get you closer to the mic
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uh okay that'll be that'll be easier for her maybe we should have done that after she left
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but that makes things a little easier so I can move my leg what's that
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Yeah, just try to scoot the chair in a little bit.
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like after his show my oh yeah my parents i don't feel like i'm missing out
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and she was like a guest on a show or something uh here you can pull that up really quick it's
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going to be like the first thing on her instagram uh yeah you can also drag too but that's fine
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um okay so and then just put it once you've got that all set up just put it back to the
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comments or whatever uh oh that's tame for a lot of things he used to say yo barry thank you very
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much man appreciate it uh yeah but so you hooked up with howard stern or well we were friends
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okay wait question what do you think howard stern's body count is
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it's a it's very low no yeah because he he was known for like no no everybody can talk what i
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say is he was known like he not he wasn't known for fucking a bunch of women he was known like
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He had a lot of – he was very flirtatious with the guests, very a bit and sometimes lewd towards the guests.
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You've got to remember, that's real radio, so you can't do certain things like that.
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But he always had a constant flow of strippers and hot and cold-running girls.
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A bunch of women on the show, so I figure – do you have the clip?
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And then we need, ooh, okay, you got to X out, hit the audio button so we can listen to it.
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I've had the pleasure to work with Miss Sabrina Dreams throughout the 90s into 2000, and it was such a pleasure working with her.
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She's my favorite big busted burlesque magician and my all-around favorite gal.
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anyways i just thought that was funny because it's ai generated but you actually were on the
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howard stern show so that's cool uh anyways uh wait we were somewhere on the questionnaire
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oh really quick finishing off on the racism thing we won't linger though uh okay so
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she was describing how um she was friends with i believe a black woman and she was wanting to
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go over to their house and the black boyfriend said ain't no white woman something like that
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yeah she's not she's not a hundred let me define racism first racism means you hate an entire race
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that's where the word came from being overseas for 20 years coming back and forth to america
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once a year i did nothing but hear the word racist thrown out more and more and more as this
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general term watching an all-white show is not racist um you not liking someone that's black
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maybe because you were S-8 or how do you say that on here?
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Could you pull up the definition between racism and prejudice?
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But this man would not let me in the home of my friend,
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who was his girlfriend, because he hated white people.
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um racism i honestly am so low on energy right now i'm trying not to leave you got this um i
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don't know if we still have the questions you got this two more hours he'll keep going all night
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yeah i'll be so bent um racism is discrimination by skin color for those that have been oppressed
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Has nothing to do with slavery and there were white
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They were indentured servitudes, they were from England,
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But in the North African countries, they would abduct Europeans.
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They would just abduct from, I think, Finn.
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One of the Denmark or one of the Scandinavian countries.
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There's actually white people who ended slavery.
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They were kind of the primary, one of the primary drivers.
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And the word Shanghai means that they were actually abducted from America, white people, and brought to China as slaves.
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This is going to be a bit, this might be a bit controversial.
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Actually, fuck it, let's not get into the slavery shit.
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Well, I was going to say that, of course, slavery was very much wrong.
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I would say, though, that if we're doing a comparison of the treatment of African-American slaves in the United States and compared them to slaves in, like, North Africa or, like, the inter-African slave trade.
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so like whereas africans enslaving other africans those were way more fucking brutal whereas like
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look you can't there's obviously massive criticisms for slavery in the united states don't get me
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wrong but the comparative treatment of african-american slaves in the united states
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not saying it's justified slavery is wrong it's much better got a caveat it their treatment
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comparatively was better as compared to like white slaves in north africa there that were abducted
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um white slaves that were uh you know by the uh i don't know if it was the ottomans or the
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various like muslim nations um who created slavery the entire world so so hold on so you
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you can find slavery in that has existed in every single nation yes uh it's it's existed
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across cultures it's not just white people who created slavery i don't know what do you mean
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created slavery what does that do you think do you think back 2 000 years ago uh people that
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lived in europe were like sending text messages to people in asia like yo you gotta try this dope
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shit bro let me put you on some games some you chinese people uh check this out you can enslave
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people yo or is slavery something that can uniquely manifest in pretty much any situation
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you think slavery ended there's literally human trafficking still i'm not saying that's human
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trafficking i'm not saying white people in slavery i'm not but you you asked me who invented slavery
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slavery is not necessarily something that is invented it is in the same like who invented war
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and they're not black most of them so guess what jesus was white they were inventing and having
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slavery way back then and there wasn't even america wait wait also also on that point um
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do you know who was selling the slaves yes the blacks africans africans were africans were well
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Because don't call it a country, like, kind of.
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It was either their countrymen or another country that was, you know, it could be tribes or it could be nations.
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And they would sell their fellow Africans to...
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So, I mean, again, slavery is a terrible thing.
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Greta's looking at me like, oh, my God, I can't believe what I'm hearing.
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no i'm just tired i was gonna say like i think that a much bigger issue rather than debating
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something that doesn't really exist anymore is like the fact that there is like borderline
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slavery that goes on to like manufacture most of the goods in america huh i'm kind of like
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sweatshops yeah like sweatshops for fast fashion can i make a comment on that well i do you know
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just for the sake of time i feel like we're gonna get too bogged down on this just one comment okay
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My friend in the Philippines, her sister was working for an American company.
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And she got fired because of all the, can I say liberal, I guess, liberal Americans, whatever.
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So she's 15 years old, has a job with the American company, a damn good job.
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And she's really happy and working for a really good company there and making good money.
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she lost her job because everybody over here is crying and complaining oh these people these poor
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young people they're slaves they're this they're that no this isn't true they're trying to make
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money for their families and live and we keep stepping in as americans saying these poor people
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well that's not true people in the philippines tend to work in customer service since they speak
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fluent english and it's people now indonesia that tend to work in manufacturing indonesia china
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yeah but it doesn't matter if that kid has to help support that family and that culture and
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that country they have to do what they have to do to survive there are young kids helping to
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support a mother at home that maybe doesn't have a husband to help them and those children are
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working to support the family they're cooking at the age of five years old so other country no
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what it doesn't matter what i think it's their country objection relevance reclaiming my time
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so no i just wanted to make that point uh so okay to finish off here on the racist thing or whatever
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so your position is in order to be racist it has to be prejudice plus the systemic oppression
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or whatever oppression right yeah yeah um okay so this would obviously well it if we just change
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the definitions of words to suit you like what's stopping me from saying that uh somebody is a pdf
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uh she has like new mexico tattoos and like somebody who's a abuses children has like dyed
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red hair and um what are you saying i'm saying if we can just if if meanings and definitions
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are so arbitrary that you can just change them to just arbitrarily where did child abuse coming
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from like are you like you're bringing up like what like petals like i'm i'm saying if i change
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the definition. And then you're like talking about my books. I'm saying if I change the definition
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of what pedophile means to include, like, here's the new definition. Uh, it can mean genuine
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pedophiles or women with your hair color who have, uh, New Mexico, uh, tattoos. And I call
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you a pedophile now. Is that helpful? Is that descriptive? No. Um, there's a word for that.
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You think it would be taking away from the words.
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I understand it's controversial, but I really
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appreciate you using my looks in that word because like that's so misleading you're being ridiculous
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no that's misleading and that's like offensive as fuck honestly i really hate pedophiles and i don't
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even like the comparison of like my looks being affiliated with you know what like i understand
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what you're saying but you're not being articulate with it so i can come across very very wrong for
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those that don't understand i was very articulate about what i was trying to get at here do you
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think i was suggesting that you're a p word you're like literally talking about like the word and
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then you're like someone with the looks like specifically describing my looks like that's
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ridiculous there's a different way to get your point across and i also asked you to pull up both
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the word prejudice and racism so we can look at the actual textbook well i'm happy to google it
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but i think you're misunderstanding what i was doing there so what i'm attempting to do i'm not
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suggesting that you are the thing i'm saying is that if we change the definition of something
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to include something uh like then i can just change the definition of these words
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to apply in scenarios or like i guess lacking you could change the definition so it wouldn't apply
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so like manipulating the word to um appeal to whatever point you're trying to get across
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which is what people are which is what people are trying to do with sexism and racism by trying to
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make a claim that well women actually can't be sexist so it's aggressive hold on no reason hold
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on stop stop stop stop it's okay stop so focus here eyes hey look deep look deep in my eyes
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deep. Okay. Deep. Okay. It's all good. I got you. I got you, boo. Okay. It's all good.
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Okay. So the point is, is that if we're going to redefine all these terms, racism, sexism,
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it's, it seems like it's this, this push to, well, you might still use the word prejudice.
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well okay if a black person does something bad to a white person because they're white
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that's pre it's still bad it's still prejudice uh or a woman it has certain sentiment towards men
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uh well it's not sexist but they're prejudiced well it's diminishing what you're doing there
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is using using language to attempt to diminish something if it's worse when men do this if it's
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worse when white people do this. That almost in and of itself, to suggest that black people can't
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be racist, in and of itself is racist. To suggest that women can't be sexist, in and of itself is
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sexist. Anyways, I'm going to move it on because I don't think it's computing. So let's see,
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what else do we have here? A few more on the questionnaire. We have Greta Grettington
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grettington mcdougelson wrong for oh wait hold on let me just double tag oh ivy women do not
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have equal rights to men in the usa why is that um we had discussed this earlier i had did further
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research after our last podcast together and um i believe that women were oppressed but i analyzed
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statistics and different laws and um found that women actually have more rights than men
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Oh, okay. So perhaps you missed didn't mean to change the mind on that circle that then okay
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How about this one then wrong for wrong for high body count men to prefer to date low and I think I might skip that one
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A lot of you quite a few of you circled it though
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I'm gonna have to skip some of these for the sake of time. Let's do this 13
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Wrong for a man to dump his girlfriend if she regularly turns him down for sex Greta you agree?
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uh i think it depends is it like just one second jasmine you agree uh
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is there anyone else no uh okay why is that because if a girl is waiting until marriage
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a guy shouldn't just dump her that's wrong you know if a girl if a girl doesn't want to have
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sex in the first place i think it's wrong for a guy to dump her but if it's like you're in a
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deep relationship you have had sex before and then you're like the girl is like turning him down then
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like that does kind of make sense but i think if a girl is like waiting and it's a good connection
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then it's kind of waiting for marriage yeah yeah but i mean so the i think it's sort of baked into
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the question wrong for a man to dump his girlfriend if she regularly turns him down for sex which
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would indicate that they are sexually active okay but she so i i mean regularly turns him down for
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sex does it wouldn't she would have to always turn him down for sex yeah if she was waiting so i think
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in this scenario it wouldn't apply to waiting for marriage in which case uh but even then i don't
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see why it would be how have you not i assume going in if the woman's waiting for marriage
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that's probably disclosed yeah so the scenario you presented is a bit of a pickle uh
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i also do kind of think that like it depends on the person like i think that like
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maybe some people just don't have that high of a sex drive but it goes both ways like if the girl
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isn't wanting to have sex with the guy she's probably not attracted to him
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but they're probably not as much so yeah exactly i perhaps the simplest way to frame this then is
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they've had sex they've been having sex perhaps the sex has declined or maybe they're three months
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in and it's like he wants to have sex more and she doesn't and he's never pushy about it but
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he wants to have sex more she turns him down frequently uh is it wrong maybe maybe not
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is it wrong for him to dump her i don't think it yeah no i don't think it's wrong it's just like
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the way it's worded i feel like it's kind of loaded but like if yeah if you're not having
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sex in a relationship that you've had sex in before it's like not one of those waiting till
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marriage circumstances yeah that's valid that's valid I mean a girl could dump a guy for not
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wanting to have sex if he's uh you also circled that why do you yeah I think it's kind of the
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same thing I read it kind of broadly I do feel like if you are kind of like denying sex every
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single time you probably shouldn't be with that person as it is but if it is one of those things
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where you've been with them for a while and there's something going on you just don't feel
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it like I feel like there's something that could be dissected and dive deeper into that you can
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work through with them so it wasn't like a like it'd be like if you came to that period like it
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It's just kind of a low point in the relationship.
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But if you're going like based off of like this is the beginning of the relationship,
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then you probably shouldn't be in the relationship with the person in the first place.
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So on that count, yes, I think it is justifiable to dump them.
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A woman's career money status makes her more attractive to men.
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Evelyn you agree a woman's career money status makes her more attractive to men
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Delia a woman's career money status makes her more attractive to men
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and Karina you also agree why is that starting with Karina
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I believe that even I'm a supporter of traditional roles and perhaps men being the breadwinner
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I do think that an ambitious woman you can be a great mother a great wife and also be very
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ambitious and who wouldn't want a woman who is smarter and has a great job and has done something
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good for herself uh so i mean i think men can value ambition and a woman but typically men
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don't care about a career ambition i don't think men really prioritize that i don't think it
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makes the woman more attractive um for most men i don't think they really care i don't think a
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a man saw a woman who he wasn't otherwise attracted to and was like, well, she's got a
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great career. Uh, whereas I think sometimes that could be the case for, for women. Oh,
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he's a doctor. Well, let me give him a chance. Uh, I think men generally speaking, don't really
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care about women's money. One of the big reasons why I think, uh, aside from there not being like
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an evolutionary basis for it, uh, even if men were inclined to care about the woman's money,
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women don't share their resources with men the same way that men share their resources with
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women so even if i was inclined to like care about a woman's money the way women move women
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don't really uh like if a woman makes a fuck ton of money i don't benefit from that
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no i don't benefit i was answering from my personal experience for example so whenever i
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shared what i did in my career um i don't think men cared how much i earn but they were somewhat
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impressed and you know it also in it was an indication for them that perhaps there is a
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level of intelligence as well there and it wasn't more so much about money than the ability to
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actually do it yeah sure i think there's something there obviously a woman being intelligent is uh
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is beneficial for a couple different things uh low iq women have a difficulty being rational
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and logical and if you want her to be clear low i just to be clear low iq men also have
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difficulty being rational and logical um they're an intelligence will confer benefits to your
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children obviously one of the reasons that you know one of the reasons that we want a partner
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who's good-looking and smart and all these positive characteristics like sort of a baseline reason for
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it is they will confer their positive traits onto the children so obviously we want to set up our
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children with the most advantages possible so if you marry a good-looking woman you know if you
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have good-looking kids then that throughout their life that's going to provide benefits to them if
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they're good looking pretty uh pretty privilege is a thing if the woman's intelligent the man's
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intelligent iq to some degree is uh genetic um and there's a nurture component too obviously if
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both parents are intelligent perhaps they'll be able to nurture their children beyond just the
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genetic potential uh also so uh we do want to confer the best traits to for our children um
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you mentioned earlier homeschooling as well so right now if you're in a position with your
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beliefs i assume is very highly likely that you might want your children in the future to be
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homeschooled rather than you know public schooled correct and it is very important what kind of
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woman is doing that that's number one and number two is beyond homeschooling if you're meeting a
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woman who is in her mid to late 20s and you don't care how much she's earning but it is impressive
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if she's been doing something above the average because what is she supposed to do just sit there
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and do nothing and wait for the prince on the white horse.
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You do the best with your time that you're single.
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No, so I agree with you that women are in this difficult position
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because, of course, this current social climate is, look,
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I don't think there's a lot of men at 18, 19, 20, 21.
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They themselves might not be ready to settle down
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or even in a position themselves to be able to facilitate a woman to not work.
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uh so then okay well what women what are women supposed to do
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they can't just sit and wait until 20 20 25 30 etc um you know could they stay at home with the
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parents it's it's possible but uh but i think there's a difference between like okay you have
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a job that's low stress and there's not like a complicated schedule and it's nine to five
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and that's it. And it's, it meets your financial needs. That's different. Whereas like you'll have
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women who are boss babes and you're trying to schedule a date with them and, Oh, sorry,
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I'm too busy. I got a deadline. I got to meet. Uh, Oh shit. I'm sorry. I, something came up with
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work. I got to reschedule. Now the belt, the boss babes make it difficult to date them because you
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make it difficult, like if you make it difficult with your schedule to be available, that's why a
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woman can still provide for herself, have a nine to five job. That's reasonable. That's predictable.
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But if you're going to boss babe and hustle and grind, and I'm working 70 hours a week,
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that's like, as a guy, I'm like, okay, great. You've got a fucking, I don't know. You got some
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bullshit. Well, not you, but like, okay, you've, you've got some bullshit. Like you're doing a
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multi-level marketing or some retarded shit i would oh sorry i don't want to interrupt i would
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argue that like the boss babe is someone just like way too indulged in a corporate career and that if
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a woman was maybe a little bit entrepreneurial and creative like i think creative jobs can be
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very very feminine and like doing something that they enjoy is kind of like a hobby to them then
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like that's attractive to a guy who's successful because a guy who's successful isn't just going
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to go and date a girl who works at like chick-fil-a you know uh well that's not true and maybe like
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the mid-level successful person but someone who's like actually really successful what do you mean
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by successful like he's gonna want a woman who's like has class class yeah class so so you're the
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person that talk about doesn't have class everyone at chick-fil-a doesn't have class you know it's
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funny a lot of yeah if you're like 25 and working at chick-fil-a it's very hard you know it's funny
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I actually dated a girl who worked at Chick-fil-A a couple years ago.
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And I mean, she, or you guys are cold or something.
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um this idea like classy i would much rather date the down-to-earth chick-fil-a girl
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than like the girl with the like expensive taste who has like who wears designer who um
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well i don't think that type of girl would necessarily want like sophisticated and she's
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got fucking lip filler and she i don't know a lot of these like sophisticated chicks have fucking
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because she has lip filler doesn't mean she's classy i mean no i'm saying she's completely
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trashy doing that brand is just comparing i guess what i'm saying i guess what yeah lip filler can
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be all over the place i guess but well a woman that has class has class it doesn't mean you're
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born to a rich family it doesn't mean nothing about a rich family i mentioned mentioned nothing
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about you're saying a classy woman wouldn't work it yeah no she could get a real estate like you
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You don't need to necessarily even go to college.
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But this is just your perception of what you see on social media these days.
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And this is the problem with a lot of young women.
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It is unfortunate for a lot of us young women to be born into this ideology and be fed this every single day on social media.
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That unless you are doing some sort of glamorous job that everyone wants this kind of life that you see on Instagram.
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And some people like somebody that Brian was dating, maybe she just doesn't care about what she's seeing on Instagram.
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and she's perfectly fine with bare minimum to pay her bills and she takes pleasure in life out of
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different stuff and not materialistic things which would be the reason why she would have
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a different job that's more glamorous or as you call it classy i guess so i mean to be honest i
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worked a corporate job it was in sales i made a lot of money i still drive the same car i have
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in high school i can't even afford a new car if i was working at chick-fil-a i'd be having like
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five roommates i'd still have that clunker of a car i had no money saved up and i just wouldn't be
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living like a good lifestyle right and i'd be living like a poverty kind of lifestyle i'm not
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saying like if a woman makes good money it's not inherently a deal breaker it's just that
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what does it potentially come with so um what sometimes uh when a woman gets into the corporate
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world if she's a hustler she's going to she's going to it uh that also entails masculine energy
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yeah i believe i agree corporate jobs like like for example a female a woman who's a lawyer
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um this is a like let's say she's a litigation attorney so she sues people that's not what i'm
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even talking no but what i guess what i'm saying is sometimes certain uh professions or careers
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uh they can have an impact on you like for example lawyers they're they can they're become very
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skilled in argumentation yeah that's their job and so and i think it perhaps i mean maybe it
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takes a certain personality trait to be a lawyer uh i don't know if i have it in me to date a woman
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who's an attorney just because i feel like she's i don't know she'd be a little domineering yeah
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I just don't want to deal with an annoying woman.
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I just don't want to deal with, like, a masculine chick.
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She will be naturally defensive most of the time, probably.
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Hey, we need you to stay for the rapid-fire questions as well as the other stuff.
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Yeah, let's wait for that then because I've got it.
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What do you think men value most in a relationship?
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You're getting there in the convo, but I have to sponsor Brian a little
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I think respect and loyalty, but I think those kind of go hand in hand
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Yeah, I think respect, because that's what, like, men's thing is ego
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Not ego in a bad way, ego in the sense of, like, who you are, your identity
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You guys strive when you have a woman that respects you
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uh okay final thing from the questionnaire then i'm done with the questionnaire uh greta men
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should pay on first dates men should provide protect men should be chivalrous ivy you agree
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with all of those jasmine you agree with all of those and in addition husband should be willing
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to die protecting you take the bullet uh zarina men should pay for dates half men should provide
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protect. Men should be chivalrous. Evelyn, all four. Delia, two, three, four. V2. Karina, one,
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two, three, four. I guess final question on the questionnaire here. If, hold on, let me,
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Barry, thank you for the gifted five subs, man. Appreciate it.
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If we can say men should do all these things, men should pay on first dates, men should provide
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protect men should be chivalrous husbands should be willing to die protecting you
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women should provide emotional support but men should do that too right is there no expectation
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for men to be emotionally supportive no there in a relationship right yeah so that goes both ways
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okay um women should like be caring like women should care for family women should but the man
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should also be caring yes but in a different way like I think women tend to have better bonds with
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both children and other people I think that's a strong claim there women can network and socialize
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you know what I'm trying to say men can also network and socialize yes but women so what
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should women can support a man by being that like caring supportive socializing person sorry I'm
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like tripping up really tired but um yeah I know men can do all those things on his own
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but it helps a lot to have a woman supporting him well i understand that it helps uh i'm not
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suggesting that women are useless but i'm simply asking uh what should women do uniquely
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multiply i mean literally i feel like it's very broad yeah i believe they should submit to their
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man yes i submissive okay be virtuous virtuous when necessary and cook we should know at least
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three plates anything that supports her man in doing those things yeah so if he comes home to
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home cooked meal to clean home yeah not not all of that but i'm gonna show you guys i'm gonna show
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you guys a video i took of my ex-girlfriend and what i do is i um i show this to new girls
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as a tutorial video on if you guys have ever watched like a tutorial um and i i show this
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kind of like so i don't have to explain it i feel like sometimes uh women are kind of visual
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learners too i guess and so i think it's helpful to show them a video instead of like explain it
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to them you know sometimes it can be overwhelming to like have to talk um okay uh let's see it
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tough crowd all right go ahead play it so i took this video boom huge bow well keep going keep going
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uh so yeah i when i get home after a long day of podcasting i expect her to hit a bow did you see
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the bow at the beginning we'll play it again just uh in a moment so dinner ready to go do you see
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the scampering i like the scampering uh cracks open a beer for me i don't even drink beer but
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i like the smell i really like the smell of beer i don't drink it though and my dinner's ready
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dinner's ready yep i scolded her there to stir the noodles faster and i i also put those japanese
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or chinese characters um as subtitles because i'm fluent in mandarin uh started from the beginning
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just play the bow from the very beginning just okay that's yep boom huge bow do you see the
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depth submissive hand posture this is i believe a woman should bow as soon as i get home what do
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guys think absolutely not nope okay uh gretting if that's your thing that's your thing but that's
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she's also she's not your slave yeah that's her sorry she's not your slave then that's her thing
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i mean i like not to get into like anything personal but like yeah i kind of like agree
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with that like i like a guy to be dominant oh so you would do it you would hit the bow
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yeah i guess i would and you know what i let's go w's in the chat i really do like to cook it's
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like a hobby of mine and i really really enjoy it so i would definitely cook for a guy cleaning
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i want to hire a house cleaner i don't like cleaning that much but i'll keep the house
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tidy l in the chat for gretta so you would bow but you wouldn't clean the house i would clean
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but like i want a house cleaner to come i don't like cleaning that much i'll pay for it l in the
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chat for money to pay for a freaking house cleaner yeah oh yeah yeah but what if i just like
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what if oh that microphone came out of nowhere that was crazy what the fuck what if i was just
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like you're in the room with me and i make eye contact with you and i have not my husband
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i'm giving you a hypothetical okay okay and i have my t-shirt and i look at you and i look at
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the t-shirt and i look back at you and i look at the t-shirt and i look back at you and then i drop
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the t-shirt on the ground and i look at the t-shirt on the ground and i look back at you
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what do you do i guess you roll my eyes i i fold the t-shirt w's in the chat for gretta
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w gretta okay you would do that would you bow for the would you bow for me i mean wait wait
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would you bow for me i take bowing as a sign of respect not necessarily
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like degradation so yeah wait what like it's not like degrading it's not an active like you would
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do it yeah i mean if my fiancee asked me to which i know he wouldn't sure wait is he watching right
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now what's his name his name's thomas i don't know bartholomew bartholomew bartholomew yeah
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you need to ask her to hit a bow it's about i do have his food ready though when he gets home just
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like that oh nice okay uh would you bow for a man no perfect man would you bow perfect man
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what's perfect yeah i know trillionaire billionaire uh looks perfect personality
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yeah rich looks personality perfect oh i would bow for a girl that has all this yeah i probably
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bow from the best but like every night every night would you hit about once it once a day
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i don't think it's necessary you wouldn't do it okay what about for the perfect man though
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what perfect man hypothetical that's narcissistic you're asking me to do something like i'm a dog
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i'm a human i'm not okay here's the scenario uh there's a magic genie and it's not the man
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asking you to do it the magic genie says i will deliver to you on the silver platter but that's
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different hold on the perfect man he's not asking you to do it i'm asking you to do it as a condition
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of getting the perfect man would you do it if it was the genie that'd be different but you wouldn't
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do it for the perfect man if he asked you to do it no he makes 250 yeah yeah he had to make more
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than no he makes a billion like all the time or just one time well i mean you're set maybe one
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time as just to kind of you know make him feel good about it but like every time would you bow
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for a man i mean i like dumb things like getting flowers so i would totally bow it takes less
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effort sure what about you d dog i guess i would i guess i would bow if it was like my love of my
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life love of your life yeah lol yeah the love of what about you would you hit about yeah what's
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my problems rock and roll i love that for you guys um i also believe though this is i know that
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sounds like who asked for about like that's weird it's culturally kind of weird white people don't
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do that i'll have it well i'll have a white girl do that i'll have an asian girl do that i'll have
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a latina girl do that i don't think i could get a black woman to do that to be fair but maybe maybe
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a native american woman or like a arabic woman maybe who knows anyways besides the point uh
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but maybe this is more realistic here's another expectation i have the first time a girl comes
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over to my house i believe that she should uh do my laundry first time she comes to my house
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I'm not saying first date but I'm okay if that
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you say excuse me sir is there anything i can do to help you while i'm here
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i think a woman does that you're gonna get the ring because i did actually not after one time
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that's crazy i did a guy's laundry and i like helped him clean his house and he got like weirded
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out he said i was overstepping well also also i think like that you don't want that little boy
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you go to her house i think you should help like fix like i don't know put up put up the
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i suppose if she's she asks that yeah that could be done but um maybe like maybe after we have sex
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then we can do it but um i i do think yeah the woman should come over and just you know i think
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she should offer offer to do it she should offer to do the laundry maybe she could clean i could
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stand behind that if the man is willing to do the same things like he's like what is it like fixing
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the car or something like when it comes to me like I've never had to worry about my car my
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fiance took care of it so likewise like I am grateful for that so I'm taking care of the house
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if you need help with something before we live together like yeah I'm more than happy to help
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him clean if he's not able to get to it because he's yeah once you're in a long-term relationship
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that's different but not like okay I'm coming up yeah I'm just coming over this first time
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let me do your laundry dates though like or even like the first month I don't think Brian words it
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in a funny way as well but there is nothing weird if you go to somebody's house and you just see
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that maybe it's not so clean and you just say hey do you need help with anything yeah no because
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then he expects you to do it expects you to do it all the time yes i do expect her to do it
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all the time if we're married or if we're in a relationship yes i would do it to pay for dates
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all the time i mean in the beginning but eventually i'll pay in the beginning you know even doing the
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laundry the washing machine all the time all the time if i'm actively pursuing him i think i would
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do it all the time because i'm trying to like a dating is like a tryout and beginning is like
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the tryout for like you know getting the ring getting married so if i'm showing that i'm wife
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material like once wife is always wife until you're married you know what i mean like you're
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a wife before you're married this is what you gain yes exactly i agree i think a lot of women
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hear me say this and they think it's kind of ridiculous and there's an apprehension it's like
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i just met this guy why would i do that and look maybe you're right maybe that's a lot maybe that's
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from in the current social climate that is a lot maybe it's never even been done before in the past
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maybe that's even like a long time ago that would have been crazy that's not how traditional courtship
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goes but today when there can be scenarios and often are scenarios where it's like well she's
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going to come over to my house and i'm going to fuck her why not take it a step i mean i'm the
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wholesome guy over here like girls will go over to a guy's house for a second third date suck their
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dick let the guy come in the back of her throat let let the guy come on her body on her face
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inside of her and it's like am i really the bad guy here because i want a girl to do my laundry
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but the other guy has i mean i do want to fuck too but am i the bad guy here because i wanted
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her to do my laundry but like men also have an expectation like other men have an expectation
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of like wanting to be balls deep inside of you like i don't know you know what i mean it's not
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Brian I think some women would look at it differently if you would have said it all together with what you said at the beginning that what you bring to the table because I think it's brilliant what you bring to the table in today's climate so I think if you put it together with I bring this to the table and I expect that this is normal I think women would just probably take it differently but they are forgetting the you know is the selective hearing part they are just hearing you just want to do the laundry and that's not the case because you actually are offering so much more than any guy
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in today's day and age yeah that's a fair point that you bring up and i i think that um if i could
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give you women game and you again you might think it's fucking stupid try it though just be like go
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over to the guy's house and look hey maybe it backfires like it did for greta or whatever
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try it try it and look maybe some guys are like whoa this is weird but like they're not they're
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not there yet they're not there yet uh i think a guy i think a guy you do it for a guy and he might
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he might view you instead of just like uh i mean especially if he's a really attractive guy and he
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has a lot of options it goes beyond just okay well i wanted to fuck her but now she's wife material
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i've like read differently like i've read about the psychology of this like there's this book
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called like why men love bitches oh you're thinking of mothering bullshit it's bullshit
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because every time i start to like a guy and i start to do nice things for him and show more
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interest he stops liking me because the chase is over right the courting is over that's like a boy
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i feel like yeah you don't want that guy that's going back to the same point but i think i read
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that book as well and that book was focusing massively on um mothering right so in the book
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basically don't do it because he's going to treat
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that he's probably not quite ready for a romantic
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they're not a man and I would not do the things I would do
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I think it'll it'll give you some brownie points with a lot of men a lot of men uh wait there was
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one thing I was gonna jump off of that I had something I was curious what you guys think
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about this this this was like a couple years ago some girl slid into my dms and she lived in
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I think it was she lived in Florida and uh she didn't have the money to pay for the flight
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herself and so we were talking she slid into my dms and I was like well you know um I can
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cover the trip, blah, blah, blah, whatever. This was, I don't know, this must've been like
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early 2023 or something, long time ago. And, uh, she was like, I don't know, we were talking on
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the phone and I think we were just, I don't know, I somehow it came up. Um, she was asking me what
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we were going to do. Well, come over. Uh, we'll obviously fly over here and you know, we'll grab
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food. We'll go to the beach. We'll do, you know, we'll hang out, uh, et cetera, et cetera. And
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she asked me where we were going to go for food
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that seems like I thought you were going to take me somewhere
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if you were dating some guy in florida he's gonna take to you to a burrito place in florida
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you want me to spend a couple hundred bucks on a flight
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and you're getting bent out of shape that i'm not taking you to a better restaurant you paid
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for the flight right no so i i hadn't paid yet we were in like we were discussing the visit
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but you offered yeah i was like i was like oh yeah i'll fly you out um blah blah blah
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Yeah, that should be enough expectations of just saying,
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thank you so much for flying me over in the first place.
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If you were going to get her a hotel, you pick.
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I think we all probably are with you on that one.
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I was long distance with my fiance for a little bit,
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and he didn't have enough money to pay for me to get there even,
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but I was just happy to spend time with him because I was there for him.
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So I think if it was, yeah, if she was happy to spend time with you,
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But if she's looking for, oh, you need to take me somewhere nice, then she has the wrong intentions.
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I mean, it wasn't quite as rude, but she said that.
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And I was like, I was like, hey, look, first off, Mexican food is fucking dope.
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um like i can have a more like uh pleasant taco meal than like going to some super fancy
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restaurant you know and um and i was like i also like this flight's gonna be hundreds of dollars
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so why are you tripping why are you tripping about the food like this is already more than
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like 95 percent of men would do for you fucking pensacola who's gonna find you over for a first
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date and spend hundreds of dollars on it you know and this i i wouldn't go out with somebody if they
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didn't pay for my flight when i was dating i mean no but we're talking about first was that first
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date because i stepped out when you started first date yeah you know not many men will do that
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unfortunately i think maybe they would suggest if it's a first date and they are very inclined to
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get to know you then maybe go house on the flights and i think that's actually very fair
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if somebody is not you know got money coming out of all his pockets is very fair he's still willing
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to give something and commit to giving you half of that flight fare and then both of you lose
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and win if if it's a win-win if if it's a great connection because you both didn't feel like you
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lost their money but it's a loose loose for both of you if the connection wasn't good yeah true
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I think that her just like you like to have a girl found out for you maybe it's her preference
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to go out to nice restaurants and like I don't think she's necessarily in the wrong but I think
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it wasn't a good match and it doesn't sound like she was super rude about it it just sounds like
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she was like nudging a suggestion towards you and it didn't work out so let me can I ask you
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something about the restaurant so I had it's a bit of a story statement and a question I had a
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first date uh where i was taken out the guy offered i was taken out to a michelin star restaurant
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and i just felt awful because the date went horribly and then i felt somewhat i owe him
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something and i do owe him that second and third day because of the money that he spent on that
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date and i felt very guilty for going on a second date and i only went on a second date because i
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felt like i owe him that because of the amount of money he spent i never asked him to do so
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that's not no so i disagree on this so well i disagree in the sense that well this was more so
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something on your end than his end it seems like uh but i disagree with this idea that
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just because a guy spends money on a woman that he's owed anything so what i mean by this is like
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and i think this is a terrible attitude for men to have and sometimes i get a lot of flack for a
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lot of my criticism being directed towards women but i do have criticisms towards men so if a man
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is ever like well i paid for the dinner therefore you should fuck me like that's retarded um just
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because a girl goes on a dinner date with you and you pay for it you're not owed anything she should
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she should be pleasant and respectful to you and hey thank you for the dinner that's about all
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you're owed um beyond that like no you're not owed sex you're not owed a second date um so in this
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case i don't think it was warranted for you to feel like uh i mean it was his suggestion to go
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to a fancy place yeah i mean if you're a guy and you invite a woman to a really expensive restaurant
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um i mean i'm assuming most guys who do that are typically well off so it's not going to be like
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a big uh damage to the wallet but uh you don't owe him any anything um and he doesn't or well
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he shouldn't have any expectations just because he took you on the date or even just because he
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took you to somewhere expensive um just because you buy just because you pick up the check doesn't
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mean she owes you sex or anything like that that's creepy that's weird that's uh yeah i agree i'm
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just saying i felt guilty well i think um i could see i think it's okay for you to feel guilty but
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you didn't like i i almost feel like the right move there is if you're not feeling him like why
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waste his time like i can't quite tell before we met well no but so you went on the first date
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that's fair game but on that first date you knew that you didn't like him so you said you felt a
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obliged you felt obligated to go on the second date because he spent so much money yeah but it
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wasn't the case that you already knew that you weren't attracted to him i realized sort of halfway
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through this halfway i walked out on my date yesterday she walked out on her day but i walked
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well no but but you went on the second date right so on the first date you knew you didn't like him
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so then well towards the end but then you went on a second and third date with him a second date
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because i felt bad for the bill that he had to pay just well that doesn't mean but then did he
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pay for the bill on the second date i offered on both occasions by the way to pay half of the bill
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because i do feel like if i'm not so much into someone it's just fair to offer that um sure and
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he didn't accept it both times so but regardless there was just an initial feeling of guilt inside
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of me well i mean the advice i'd give you or other women um like you don't owe the guy another date
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even if he spent a bunch of money but for the even uh i mean being selfish for you but even
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for the benefit of the man if you're not into the guy cut him loose like oh i should give on another
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date with him to make him feel good i think it's just like the more dates you go on a woman and
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then you get rejected i think that's worse i'd rather know um truthfully like as soon as possible
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if the girl's just not feeling it now if we've agreed to meet up somewhere i think it's like
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if the girl like walks up and assuming I'm not being like mega cringe, which normally
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I'm not, uh, I think it's fair for her to see out the like 30 minute, one hour date
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or whatever, not just be like, Oh, like, I think that's polite thing.
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But after that, um, Hey, it was very nice meeting you.
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Um, I think men will prefer, uh, just like, it would be a waste of time to go on another
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date with a woman who's not into me so just like let me know uh if he's a grown-up if he's an adult
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man he's just gonna be like oh hey i get it it was nice meeting you wish you good luck and um i
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hope you find the right guy i think that that's how it should be but like i don't know i would
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almost i would be more upset if like a girl told me like if i was overhearing this story like if
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you we went on the first date and you knew on the first date that you didn't like me
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i would want you to tell me like and i was like hey i had a great time with you would you like
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to go out again uh like say i texted that to you you should take like text me back reject me then
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don't go on another date with me because you feel sorry for me or you feel like you owe me
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no because that's a waste of my time my further resources and just for your own benefit too like
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it's a waste of your time too as the woman so uh that isn't yeah oh i think it's a massive red flag
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especially if you're meeting a guy from online if he takes you out on a really nice date to begin
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with because he's probably doing that with a lot of girls and wasting a lot of his money
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if that makes sense like i think that it's more reasonable if you're especially if you're meeting
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someone from like dms or like from a dating app like meet for coffee go on a walk together and
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then if he asks you out on a date then you know it's like okay you get along he actually likes
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you and he's not just like taking you out to like prove something to himself that he can go and get
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like these attractive women true all right we're gonna get into the rapid fire segment of the show
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luckily we have our our superstar all-star here ivy gertrude smith coming back to the table that's
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your middle name i yeah um i'm doug dimidome is that your middle name yeah no her middle name
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is gertrude i thought you were calling me gertrude no well you're grettington oh i guess uh gret
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gretel like hansel and gretel like greta thunberg no but your full name is gretel
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yeah it's my birth name i i tried to hide it but when i got meta verified i had to put it out there
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what's your like uh ethnicity background are you like french german what i'm american my my family
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was on the like mayflower so brit like english british irish maybe yeah and then like some
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french italian yeah it's not like heritage name my parents just wanted to be can i ask you a
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question i mean uh did you get bullied in school yeah i don't know why it didn't occur to me to
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changed my name for the name or just because of you um both my full name do you want to know my
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full name gretelington gretel ophelia devendorf i think that's pretty wow you sound that's like
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a slave owner name my initials are you what's that my initials are god when i signed papers
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oh god yeah that's cool ophelia yeah i was bullied a lot in school yeah you know you can get a legal
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name change i know i guess it's too late at this point though you're kind of fucked
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well if you were to change your name wait hold on she's still so young you look like i'd go by
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sofia it's a nice name i think crystal no yes she looks like a crystal
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okay i would say like a heidi fine you look like a maybe a jade no maybe a heidi summer
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something more sophisticated what's another stripper name hold on mine was cloud okay what
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about hazel he's cute oh wait are we talking about i don't know uh okay we're gonna blast
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through the questions i'm gonna try to hopefully get this blasting uh we're at the tail end we're
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at the we're at the the final stretch we're at the final stretch home stretch i still haven't
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found a place to stay tonight uh do you want to stay with me did you get a hotel i have a hotel
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bmv i have two beds oh i'll split it with you okay oh wow there you go quick solution well okay
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we'll talk talk after the talk after the show on that but okay we want to negotiate this out with
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you here uh let's see oh who uh who here's in a relationship show of hands again boom boom uh
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that's it okay question do you guys have a uh a hall pass so a hall pass is like maybe a celebrity
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crush that oh that is just like okay if you had the chance to fuck him your boyfriend would let
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you it sounds terrible but i don't to be honest no what about you um he's not like territorial in
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that way i think if the opportunity came and then like we discussed it i'm not gonna say that he
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would say no but i think he prefers that we keep our relationship closed sexually do your boyfriends
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have a hall pass like do i let him or does he have someone in mind oh well i like more so like
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pick a celebrity right oh if he could get with his celebrity crush he would let him or something
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no i don't think so but wait does he get with other women no oh okay the way you phrased that
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i thought maybe i didn't know if you meant like oh do you allow each other that paul passes like
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oh okay yeah i see both on no end for you or i guess that's enough for you um if i can join and
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we both enjoy her but i told him that if we were to ever have a threesome like i go first okay uh
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question yeah uh oh show of hands have you ever asked to be choked during carnal knowledge
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nobody i've never asked but it just happens yeah oh it just it just happens yeah or i like move
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the hand no but like you want it you want it is what i'm doing yes yes yes yeah no like he'll
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told me but sorry okay no you're fine i was just curious about did she choke him or did he choke
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her would it be would it be a turn off if you asked the guy and he didn't want to do it or refused
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um i don't think a turn off no i think i think it would be a turn off kind of yeah it's like a
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turn off to me when a guy's a bit like submissive well what if he's not submissive but he and a lot
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of guys are attracted to me that are like yeah they're like submissive oh they want me to do
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like all the work and i'm like no some guys are reasonably scared that they will hurt you and they
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don't want to take that responsibility because they might be stronger and you know quite honestly
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kill you that's terrifying there's an appropriate way to do it i never go extreme not every guy
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knows how to do it yeah yeah yeah 100 so you don't ask i'm assuming perhaps maybe not mid
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situation but have a conversation about your preferences prior okay uh getting into the
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rapid fire questions uh so tiffany will do like center when i ask and then you can do
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you can either go center or right or center and then split um okay uh what species are we
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human oh it's just for one person oh oh i didn't know that okay it's okay you didn't know uh so
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i'll point to you i guess so what species are we heterosexual sapien
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okay name uh starting with greta name three countries besides the usa
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spain england brazil alabama north carolina and india okay italy germany france
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Nigeria, Ghana, China, Alaska, North America, South America.
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I will go sophisticated Liechtenstein, Moldova, Romania.
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Do you keep going until we run out of countries?
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I forgot if that was Southern or not, Asian, maybe, yeah.
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hold on uh i need i will be right back i need to pee so you guys can talk about whatever for like
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two minutes while i use the bathroom have fun you can talk about how awesome i am when i'm gone
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how many of you guys have been here before
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you've never been here before are you like his fan in there i love the training i do agree with
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him on the log stuff yeah no that's not what i asked are you his fan like on the chat like
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like the shorts that come up on YouTube have you been in I don't know what the hell yeah nice
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you're gonna drive back to LA yeah wait look he can I just happen with you because I mean
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all my stuff is at my friend's house to la yeah you didn't drive yeah i mean no i took the train
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like if you could drive me okay cool and you don't have to like drive me to where i'm staying you can
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like i can like probably have them because they stay up so guys i can probably have them pick me
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up that's fine okay i can take you i don't mind okay sick god that'd be so much better because
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all my stuff is there and then i could just sleep in and like be ready for my thing it's basically
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a silent break you guys everyone watching that okay sorry about the safe conversations okay
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cool we can chat pick a topic send a super chat to us know what you want us to talk about we should
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talk about social media who here is like on social media i think all of us i know is everyone putting
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in there are you on social media yeah that's why i was asking again yeah
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all right what do y'all do for hobbies outside of this swimming
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social media MMA nice oh yeah when you said that at the beginning yeah yeah Pilates gym
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arts and crafts cooking oh I love cooking too golf yeah hiking hiking you're very patient
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I'm actually not that's the only thing that manages my anger man which would you prefer
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oh that was on the question yeah it depends on the man I know that's what I put down I think I
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said bear but I'm like what if he was like a like a cute little old man like harmless you know
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Brian or the bear I think I can outrun Brian before I can outrun a bear
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what we're doing uh we're about to have an orgy oh wow you don't see that I appreciate the time
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first time back to sex thank you come on she like i have you appreciated it you're is this uh
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are you leaving dear you're leaving she doesn't want to be in the orgy
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i mean you you know we if you want to throw up on stream you can just
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that's not me that's what's her name it's okay oh she left you guys gotta admit like it got
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better after she left it was a little tense there for i wasn't able to say a word like the first
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girl you didn't like her you should have backed me up bro what the fuck cred i thought we were
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caucasians i thought you were my caucasian bro we can disagree but there is a way to talk why
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I told Tiffany, I was like, I don't, I was like, I don't, I can't stand her.
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I literally was walking away because she wasn't making the fuck out of me.
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Oh, I thought you were making those faces about me.
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Because I overheard, she was kind of talking a bit about me before the show.
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And it's, I don't know, some of you guys kind of seemed a little bit on her side.
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I just didn't want to get yelled at anymore.
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oh i didn't hear what she said but i think she was trolling yeah yeah she was
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or that's just her personality and it sucks she is from so this is why when i asked her
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where is she from she said london i said no where are you from because i knew she's gonna say south
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london because she is just sounds like a girl from south london ghetto and the biggest ghetto
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in south london is brixton which is where she is from she is from brixton yeah yeah she does give
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that kind of just like insufferable i'm not gonna lie i think you have clashing personalities like
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like and you ended up arguing for a while yeah yeah oh okay i misread that i thought
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no i was getting reminded of like my freaking parents divorce and i was like i'm getting like
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my mom and dad are fighting let's walk away i was like grega was looking grega you were like
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this you're like i'm like i hope she doesn't throw a freaking like
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beer bottle at your head i thought she was gonna throw a cup at me and i was like what is she
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gonna fucking do anyways uh let's continue on with this try to get this done so i can get these
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people out of here yeah uh i got my back i popped something just now oh that was you i did hear i
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did hear something yeah i got back problems too it's tough getting old little accident i'm 30 and
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so and i didn't want to disappoint not being here so no you came you came you came you saw you
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I was just going to stand up. Take a seat. Keep it
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wait hold on fuck wait hold on i oh my god it's where the fuck is it
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oh okay wait tiffany here put it on right put it on the right angle please tiffany go over there
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tiffany keep going no keep going okay start walking to the seat and then sit in the seat
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greece and spain love it okay next question uh what planet what planet do we live on jupiter
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forever okay uh what is the i'm gonna skip some of these the government the government
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triangle yeah okay wrong what is it it's a pentagon oh i thought you're gonna say like
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square or some shit uh okay uh we're gonna skip a bunch uh what country is directly north of mexico
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um what country is directly north of mexico the usa
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i feel like you know i studied i did i studied i do know the answers don't tell anyone
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i don't want them to think i'm like a smart sex worker or something
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What is it though? Your answer. North America. North America, the country. Got it. Okay. How
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many hours are in a day? 24. How many sides does a triangle have? Three. Okay. What country
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gifted the statue of liberty to the usa france final answer
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right in or france i think it's france you are correct it is france okay how many months have
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28 days just one february well i mean actually all months but if we're talking about where it
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stops so 12 i guess it could be a trick question in that sense but yeah that is true both answers
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are correct. What gas do plants absorb from the air? Oxygen. What gas do humans breathe in to
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survive? Oxygen. What organ pumps blood through your body? Your heart. Correct. What continent
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what continent though close just one word difference america change the first word okay
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But you know, we spoke about it when we spoke about slavery.
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you are already debating this there is no way you are smarter than that i know okay uh what
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here what i agree with that i feel like okay uh what what country is immediately south of the
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united states why am i getting all the questions i don't know i'm just picking on you you're gonna
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give the funny answers i guess uh so you get picked i'll ask some others to the others don't
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worry just give us harder questions i could do that but what is uh so so the question is what
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country is immediately south of the united states country immediately south the united states um
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i i don't know i have no idea honestly i've never been there
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okay uh if today uh this is for greta if today is monday what day is it in three days
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three days from monday yeah thursday unless you're like no you're correct good job okay uh
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if if you have three quarters how much money do you have 75 cents who painted the mona lisa
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oh why do i van gogh no i'm that's wrong no no monet no i actually monet were you about to say
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monet that's not true wait i why did i guess so maybe uh what is the name of the famous car
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nathan if you can for the questions center and then just go split the mona lisa actually got her ass
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beat like during that in rl yeah while he was getting painted leonardo dicaprio yes when
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Leonardo DiCaprio beat Mona Lisa I'm not gonna disrespect Leonardo DiCaprio like that
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she actually got beat yeah my friend was in art school and we were sitting there talking and she
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was telling me like um the history and Mona Lisa was like basically like a whore uh okay if it
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here's one for Greta if it takes three minutes to boil one egg how many minutes does it take to
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boil three eggs it would depend on whether or not the eggs were refrigerated when you're putting
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them in the water um because the it would need to have more like heat if the eggs were refrigerated
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if that makes sense because there's more eggs there i would say like in general three minutes
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for all three eggs yeah that's correct yeah but like it depends on if the eggs were refrigerated
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or not because the that's going to change the well what if it's only one egg at a time
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if it's one egg at a time it's nine minutes because you boil it for three and then you
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add in another egg how many nickels make a dollar 10 no 20 20 nickels
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no yeah 20 nickels right final answer 20 nickels make a dollar you are correct no you've got a
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Okay, how many branches of the U.S. government are there?
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congress no is that is that wrong military no i i don't know presidential i actually don't know
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i'm genuinely one branch of the u.s you are math major hello federal i i don't know like what are
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the u.s government branch of the u.s government one branch it's the navy
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no it's not the navy it's not the navy no i don't know i i genuinely don't know president
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the nad presidential uh congress i thought it was like congress was one no the three branches
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of the government what do you mean can someone else help me uh what about you name one branch
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of the u.s government legislative okay you're okay judicial okay that's two oh
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federal well you're not american i feel like it's perhaps unfair for you but
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i would have given your answer there's one more one more what's the final one
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are you gonna tell us one more come on come on Greta I don't know anything about politics
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how about this I'll give a hint I'll give a hint Trump presidential I said that
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okay okay i didn't do the gay voice tonight fuck i'll do it here i'll do uh let's see here
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actually i don't want to ask these questions in the gay voice because they'll include in the clip
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and then i'll sound ridiculous i'll do the gay voice later what century are we in
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okay uh good job how many stars are on the u.s flag 50
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um one two three come on don't count i have no idea i don't know all right uh okay what document
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what document begins with we the people the constitution am i wrong
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the declaration of independence you sure about that
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maybe it's the articles of confederation maybe it's not the articles maybe it's the bill of
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rights who knows where it could be i don't know uh okay what galaxy which one is right
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i don't know uh i'm these are questions i failed on my oh yeah what what galaxy do we live in
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um las vegas i don't know all right how many months in a decade in one decade it's 120
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well done math major by the way uh what year was the u.s founded
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about that i don't know this one yes 1876 close very close uh something like that what is it i
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i can't even say it 1776 oh oh yeah sort of by off by a year i guess uh or a hundred years
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excuse me uh let's see what country did the u.s gain its independence from mexico
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you are correct we fought against the mexicans texas did we were sending our tax dollars to
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the mexicans and she's kind of right she's in texas okay uh who who was the first president
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How many days of the week end with the letter Y?
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it is true that is what they speak in idaho yeah they're very curious people
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how many uh how many years are in a decade how many years are in a decade yeah um like 12
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but you guys knew it you even said how many um months are in a decade how many are uh how many
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oh boy okay uh how many months okay um if a dozen eggs for greta
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math one i'll give the hard ones to greta a dozen eggs if a dozen eggs cost three dollars how much
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is each egg a dozen eggs cost three dollars 25 cents damn she's good damn she's good get greta
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i don't know fucking she's got to become like a scientist or something this fucking she's a
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300 iq uh yeah my he's actually really high i graduated from college when i was 19 what's your
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iq 142 but what's yours you said you measured yours recently yeah i took the mensa norway
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test which is mostly reliable yeah a lot of people will take like a bogus iq test though
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and like did you have to sit it with another person when they tested me for mental illness
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did you have to sit on the test with someone watching over you doing no the one i took is
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online but it's best mensa it's a bit more reputable i guess yeah yeah mensa is known in
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Europe. Yeah. Zorina. Yes. Sit down. When they tested me for autism, they also tested my IQ.
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so it's a proper test nice but you know it's okay it's very often that people with autism
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have a higher iq that's uh actually are you are you i don't identify as autistic but the doctors
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say there are different spectrums there are i was like pretty much like i had asperger's as a kid
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but that's not a diagnosis anymore but i think it's like something should be similar to that
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like high iq like like functioning autistic people you're autistic you said that you're i'm autistic
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i sometimes i say it as a joke but my brother's autistic and he like needs a lot of support so
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that's why i'm like it's kind of like and i felt bad for you at the beginning when you called me
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out for the perfume i thought oh god he's autistic that's probably both okay it's okay it's all good
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uh okay here let's let's focus yeah neurodivergent focus focus focus greta if you didn't eat
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breakfast this morning how would you feel i already i didn't eat breakfast this morning
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i didn't eat dinner either greta wow i had a david protein bar 100 wait what's your iq again 142
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142 iq by the way um and 137 pounds 150 pounds what i was 150 oh how much now i'm 100 like 137
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after this podcast nice yeah how did i feel the test how do you feel okay how would you feel
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the question is how would you feel if you didn't have breakfast this morning the question doesn't
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ask you uh if you had breakfast this morning it asks how would you feel had you not so it it it's
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a test to gauge your ability to engage with hypotheticals so if somebody says well i did
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have breakfast this morning the the answer ought to be uh i would be hungry if i didn't have
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breakfast this morning got it i just wanted to like be like kate moss although technically
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could somebody wait wait chat skinny and disordered my eating habits are chat i'm kidding
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guys technically wait wait actually you know what i just thought about this chat maybe this
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is a bad question maybe we got to change it chat technically if you don't have breakfast you have
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to ask this question at fucking noon before lunch because you could skip breakfast have
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i'm sleepy brain wow okay anyways okay let me finish this up god you guys just
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i'm trying to finish and okay what is the closest start to earth um the sun
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Greta, if you were born 10 years ago, how old would you be today?
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So when I say decade, I'm looking for 1970s, 1830s decade.
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I've actually never touched an organ in my life.
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i got surgery and i took edibles nice yeah uh okay uh let me go do that yeah sure yeah yeah
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yeah take some sorry yeah of course not take a break i heard i heard something pop
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dang what's the heck oh my goodness it's bad like how did you have like back stuff
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well i died four years ago oh sorry i died four years ago i was dead for over an hour
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drugs yeah I was in Beijing China I got all the drugs I could do and they they go hard in China
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it's called a DVT and a pulmonary embolism you've lived you've lived nine lives like a cat
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oh that's cool I love skydiving uh let's see uh what decade was World War One
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um 1942 what was the primary decade of world war ii 1940s primary it started in the 30s i believe
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the 40s or 50s i think 40s okay uh is that right name from world war ii name one allied power and
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and one access power from world war ii name one allied power and one access power yeah what is
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an access power okay here i'll make it uh america allied germany access oh okay so besides germany
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i think poland was another access power and then an allied would be the uk england
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oh cloud strife you cloud we're we're doing a 200 tts uh you're taking advantage of below the
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threshold i mean uh sorry bro but shout out for saying the netherlands blood no longer boiling
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uh what was his other one oh the amps she said amsterdam for the country yeah thank you cloud
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strife for the messages um we do have to try to for the most part respect the threshold all right
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uh let's see we're almost at the end of that stuff uh do you think it's fat phobic or wrong
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to reject a woman because of her now we that was already in the questionnaire disregard
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is anyone here a virgin besides me yeah of course definitely uh let's see
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uh has anyone here ever gotten an abortion yeah you yeah yeah i had gotten pregnant on the uh
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nexplanon implant on the night of an eclipse and um i had 0.01 percent i had to go to new
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mexico and i couldn't even like oh wait don't admit this oh you know wait sorry oh it's legal
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and i'm from mexico it was legal you know what yeah i so i pinned you know what i'm actually
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wrong i left this pinned chat up saying that tts is 69 so i'm actually wrong uh
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so yeah i forgot to unpin the i i need that's my fault uh but so in that case fuck it tts
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is 69 um cloud are you okay i mean we kind of read it so um justin martin's donated 100
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Brian, how would you feel if you didn't have a burrito this evening?
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the netherlands amsterdam is just the capital and not even a great city for that
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sorry had to do it it's my dutch blood boiling all right uh i'm gonna try to blast through the
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rest of the questions as quickly as possible so if you can just immediately just one after the
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other just blast out your answer for the sake of time what percentage of men do you think are over
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six feet um five percent okay um three is this america or world usa oh maybe like 20 i'm gonna
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say like one next no clue sorry i have no clue one percent one percent it's actually 15 about
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Well I mean if you're like factoring in like India and China
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But like European countries you're going to have like
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uh okay what percentage of men make at least one million dollars a year point one point oh one
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percent um five percent i'm gonna say like point zero two one point zero one or something in u.s
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yeah below one percent it is below one percent uh what percentage of men do you find attractive
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all men or and with men within a reasonable like date uh yeah let's say like men uh
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of the age range you would date what percentage of them do you find attractive
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probably 10 10 pretty low one maybe two okay i'm gonna say like 10 five i would say like 30
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Do any of you keep a list of the men you've been with?
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oh yeah you have okay i'm gonna here's what i'm gonna do i'm gonna do a little gay segment for
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all of you just to you know have a little fun here uh i'm gonna pay i'm gonna give each one
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of you a compliment as a gay man oh thanks all right here goes revoke my man card
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oh my i'm kind of tired to do this all right here we go oh my god greta you are just have
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the most beautiful smile let me just say your lips fantastic and like you're just so cute you're just
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like a little giant i just want to climb you like a tree okay oh my god ivy your tattoos are just
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like you're just like a little cute little native american
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i was staring at my boobs you're gay i was staring at your your arm okay and your boobs are fake
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by the way whoa what the fuck wait do that again whoa that's pretty cool that is
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he can't come up with one for me oh you you do mma oh my wait
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that's like the coolest thing i bet you are just so amazing when you like tap out
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those people you put them in a little triangle choke and i bet you do look so cute
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thank you oh my god is this cringe wait is this a cringe no it's hot
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remember someone watching oh my god darling you with your standards just like
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you know 46 47 you i love your confidence girl i love your confidence this feels backhanded so
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Your little pink color contacts and your little bling there.
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uh you my little polish princess don't get me started so fetch so beautiful um oh my god
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i would impregnate you if i was straight anyways too a little too good at that i don't know so
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anyways uh back to the back to this uh reclaiming my masculinity uh has anyone here had the ho phase
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i have hofes clearly i live my hope oh for show i have not what is that gretel what the fuck are
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you eating what the fuck is that bro that looks like like play-doh cheese oh it doesn't like
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cheese what the fuck isn't that the cookie i found it those cookies are good what in the
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toilet no you didn't no you didn't she's eating the soap it's just the bar what is the food you
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brought surely it's not like one of my songs right now it's a protein bar i don't want to
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name the brand because i don't want to like promote them oh you don't want to give them
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free clout i see uh yeah that looks is it good this flavor isn't as good as some of the other
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flavors damn it's okay what the fuck is i've never seen anything that doesn't even like
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Yeah, I took the wrapper off because I didn't want to promote the brand.
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You told us at the beginning, you have a roster.
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I'm going out with multiple guys, but I'm not sleeping with any of them.
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I have had one one-night stand, but it technically wasn't the same day because I met at a bar.
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more than the foursome orgy gangbang no have you have you done porn wait uh wait wait move your
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phone off the table scoot you gotta scoot the mic uh like scoot the mic so i yeah yesterday i
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got invited i didn't go but i got invited to an orgy party with chloe cherry who was that
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the euphoria girl who who european for this i think i love you but i don't think i could go
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to that i was like maybe i could spectate i was like no i don't think i could do that don't don't
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fall into the los angeles do not i found it so weird that they do that one of my friends went to
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one with grimes there she was from sf i guess she like does some really weird stuff
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she doesn't really that checks out i don't get the swingers like the guys who share their wife
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like she that's my wife the only person who's gonna fuck her
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i don't know that shit's weird that shit's weird okay thank you cloud strife
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cloud strife nominated 69 dollars i'm good yes more money just to say this great show
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thank you cloud uh thank you and i don't normally like big cities but uh amsterdam i've been there
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three times it's my favorite city it's not that big comparing to other big cities uh yeah yeah but
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it's it's a major like i don't like cities in general so but i really like amsterdam actually
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okay uh has anyone here hooked up with two guys in a 24-hour period 24 uh seven day period
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a 24-hour period not 24 hours but seven days you've never not really come on you said you
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had the hoe phase i did i feel like a hoe for show has fucked two guys in 24 hours have i fucked
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two girls i don't think so i'm a gentleman okay moving on uh would you prefer to live in a world
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without men any of you no no gretel no i like men do you think i'm a misandrist question would
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what if it's a like a black guy from america guys either what if it's an asian guy
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i'm not like who watches anime i guess i've gone up with an asian guy before um
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yeah sure i like i guess i like eastern eastern european guys you would date a guy named
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handsome you kind of know but then that would be like incest core oh my god incest core incest
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maxing yeah there's um a little eastern man don't do it yeah he's my friend he's really rich yeah
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he's like who's that next to you he's a straight sugar daddy and he was asking about you he's
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texting his message don't do it gretta is he how old is he he's like don't do it 40s i think
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don't do it if you want to go like traveling you don't have to do anything but like i'm just saying
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he's a good he's a good person here we go is okay uh question is it gay for a man to date a trans
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woman absolutely i think so uh greta yeah actually one of my friends was dating this guy for a while
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and she found out after they broke up that he was like screwing trans women
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so he was bisexual he was bisexual so yeah i think it makes you but if you like girls and you like
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exclusively like trans women in addition to girls but not guys i think that would still make you
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like bisexual yeah um it's definitely fruity and i think it's questionable my um someone i had dated
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uh started to like get curious towards a trans woman and it did make me question his sexuality
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but okay it doesn't really bother me but yeah you know okay definitely questionable uh like alex
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and sonny like alex and sonny transition very young she looks very feminine she probably has
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here's a good question for gretel for the perfect man would you delete your instagram
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and tiktok which means giving up your career and only fans i don't have only fans
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you don't realize like you're like rage waiting you don't realize how mad i get when people say
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that um if it was the perfect man i i feel like i would meet the perfect man for another couple
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years and yes if he was if he was perfect i would delete my socials who who else show of hands would
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you delete your instagram all social media for the perfect man i don't even my fiance told me to
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just for a little bit but yeah just for oh just for a little bit and can i interrupt it was really
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nice to meet everybody i had to go wait let me do your notes i have to drop my daughter off at
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the train station in the morning let me do her notes yeah you have to drive her home and then
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she's crashing with home no she's gonna she's gonna switch the you switch the motherfucking
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well i'd rather go back i have a big photo for tomorrow i do have a flight to catch at some
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point okay uh how about this give me 15 minutes my sister's downstairs give me 15 minutes you
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always say 15 minutes hard stop hard stop 15 bye you guys thank you for having me hard stop at 9
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your notes right now. I'm doing your notes right now.
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Wait, don't go that way, please. Don't go that way.
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hold out for a little bit but otherwise you're welcome
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if you're not feeling good you're welcome to leave
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Thank you. Nice to meet you. Thank you for coming.
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posting thirst traps on instagram not really i'm just posting sexy stuff motivational sexy stuff
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inspirational stuff yes don't you and it's sexy it's okay would you be like let's say you meet
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not the perfect guy but like a really good guy and he's like hey i'm not comfortable with you
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posting this stuff would you i would take i would take it into consideration absolutely
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would you take it down i well if it made him like super uncomfortable to where it's like
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affecting the relationship then yes if it's if he's a very important person in my life
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and we're in a serious relationship out here's my butt photos i'm not gonna pull it i'm not i can't
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pull it up but uh and when i say titties out i just mean they're not nude but you could show
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it's okay i'd rather not uh but are you in some of your photos you wear a cross are you christian
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um no i mean technically when i was younger i mean i was truly you're but i'm spiritual i don't i
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don't claim a religion right now okay uh salvadorian 444 what is 444 444 is protection
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protection yeah what is 16 never mind uh divine feminine what's that in my um are you divine i'm
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divine feminine yes i'm in my comfortable era i'm powerful i attract i don't chase
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am i divine masculine especially when you give off the vibe of that yeah i give off yeah you
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actually do divine masculine wait i give off divine masculine yeah you do masculine is very
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i'm not gonna lie like that's kind of a dope compliment yeah if a girl was like it's true
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divine that wait i give off divine you're df yes yeah i feel like i'm kind of goofy and like a
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little you're a goofy df but it's not that it's your characteristics of a man like if that makes
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sense it's it's being organized or like providing a space do it yeah it's yeah divine masculine
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w's divine i never thought i'd hear the day where i mean brian you're divine masculine hey i'll
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fucking hey you got to take a w where you can take a w so i'll fucking that's a hell of a compliment
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i'll accept of it yes um you know it's kind of like when your mom says you're good looking like
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you got to take the you got to yeah you got to take your w's where you can uh shout out mom uh
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so anyways uh you said nothing crazy one time you went to meet up with someone and it ended in a
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one-year relationship so you were when you say that uh you went uh you went to meet up with
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someone as in like you thought maybe it was just going to be like a casual hookup exactly and it
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turns out you guys dated for a year yeah almost a year those are the best kind he was like an
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instant i think it was more like a spiritual connection where you have sex right away like
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you skip it was a one night stand it turned into a one year so those are the best almost one year
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why do this whole song and dance it's like look i want a relationship you want a relationship
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let's just fuck and also start like have the relationship you know what i mean it just
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happened that way you know what i mean i don't know that's how it started fast it ended fast
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too so it was like okay cool and then there was it's a great way to do it i mean i disagree i
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think that tactic can end up rocking you a lot of bodies though well you know the thing at least
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from my perspective is every woman i've slept with i knew was the one in the moment so yeah
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i'm a virgin i'm waiting till marriage just kidding uh wait oh final question do you have
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a BBL yes can you show no okay how many BBLs have you had because we've had some the reason I asked
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like we've had girls come on the show who are like get multiple so I was just curious if it
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was like one time through time people think I have a BBL and I don't you don't have a BBL great
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love you guys bye bye bye ta-ta ta-ta dear you can get him safe okay uh let's see here let me
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blast through the rest of the notes here from the homies alicia gone zerina gone greta here oh man
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greta question can't be honest with me i prepped a lot of notes for you oh i did okay and you didn't
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ask me anything well it got time got away from me okay do you want to come back on the show
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another day and i can do the notes another day you pay me more hey what the fuck i'm not paying
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you anything motherfucker um if i move to la which i'm thinking of moving to la if i come
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back to la okay we'll we'll talk about it we'll talk about okay well let me get through the other
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people's notes and i think i should be able to get this right i'll do a few i'll do uh time
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permitting i'll do a few oh boy there's okay uh did you add anything or no no okay so we already
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did your stuff last time okay uh v uh you did a tiktok video where you got called a prude oh yeah
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because you wouldn't sleep with a guy yeah and you've been how long wait how long you've been
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celibate uh about a year so you have a celibate phase you're celibate currently but then in the
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video you're like not a prude i mean i'm not a prude the next guy you sleep with do you think
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you'll make him wait yeah how long do you think i don't think it's a long thing it's more of i'm
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if it's the right fit is what yes okay so if it's the right fit you'll just smash right away
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i mean it takes me some time to get to know a person to know if it's the right
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fit okay you do tarot cards yeah it's bullshit next thing next topic
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i brought him you want a lawyer uh no uh you had many dating stories with many a loser last partner
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in 2024 decided to get violent three days before christmas you ended up calling the cops you got
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arrested because your dumb ass decided not to tell them what he did when he showed when they showed
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up uh so like were you hitting him or no so how did you get arrested then so at some point he
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pushed through me and i bit him and so he showed them the mark of where i bit him well so you were
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violent if you bit well i mean at this point he had already tossed suitcases at me boxes at me
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yelled at me aggressively was throwing things around sure and uh he had hidden my phone my
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car keys my wallet and i had no way of leaving can i sorry go back to the tarot cards for one
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moment you said that you're religious i'm spiritual spiritual okay just wanted to confirm
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yeah okay uh all right you said you used to have disagreements with the show but not anymore yeah
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so you just agree with everything i say not everything but i mean i mean i can't think of
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anything specific um i actually think andrew wilson helped me clarify some disagreements
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with his actual logic yeah uh you said you had a in your notes you write you had a huge slut phase
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uh we talked about that i think a little bit you said it's between 50 and 200
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Tell us the 22nd version of the She-Mail story.
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um uh my ex was not satisfying me we weren't doing anything sexually we were living together
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and um one day i wake up and i find him in the other room jerking off to shemale porn and
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he wasn't even touching me wait a second you guys want to hear something crazy
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so i overbooked the show wait what i totally i didn't even realize this
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apparently we had a no show i mean we already were overbooked so it didn't matter
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no no communication was it someone controversial someone relevant no i wouldn't have i don't think
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she was all that interesting but it's interesting to when did she reach out wait get this guys i
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can't believe i missed this i knew yeah at the beginning of the show i was like wait isn't there
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someone well it seemed like there would be no space unless she would uh so she reached out
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february 22nd and then we confirmed with her february 25th so that's like two months she was
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on schedule and then i sent the reminder april 4th i received the reminder april 10th uh
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that's interesting lisa i'm gonna have to talk shit to lisa after the show uh even though it
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doesn't really matter uh lisa if you're watching you're a piece of shit for no showing but thank
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you for not coming because it would have been too many people so thank you but fuck you at the same
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time uh i don't know okay so i had notes here um nothing even interesting all right would have
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been useless jasmine oh okay let's get to your notes jasmine uh we'll blast through them your
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instagram pronouns are daddy slash father yeah so does your fiancee call you daddy no as a joke
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sure it's more satire when i yeah i did that when the whole pronouns thing came out i was like well
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you're like mocking it yes i'm like if everyone can identify as whatever i'm gonna be daddy father
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uh wait tiffany's not here or i'm gonna go wait what wait wait we're just wait
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can you do us instead of doing everybody else no so we can head out because we have to drive
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back to la i have to drive back to la just wait wait same i don't have the key just wait uh
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what's going on i don't have the key no that's what i'm saying i gotta like no i have like the
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key to the car all right here just sit down i'm blasting through it let me blast through jasmine's
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notes she didn't get much chance to talk tonight so at least stay for be show some respect to my
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home home girl half caucasian homie jasmine uh daddy father okay so it's just a joke you uh fun
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fact you've only ever dated your fiance yes uh nothing nothing with other men no i've talked
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to them but yeah nothing physical no relationships no one kiss one other kiss but okay so he was
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your first yes okay uh your frustrations come from men who aren't men yes but men who you would deem
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as boys boys who are lazy but expect a woman to bow down yes see i can bow to my fiance because
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he's a man but you know someone who's not willing to provide protect someone who's expecting me to
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do everything for them but yeah boys that don't know how to change a tire let alone kill a spider
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yeah uh okay the ones who let their insecurities take over so that their girl can't wear a certain
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outfit or can't do a certain sport okay so you do the mma you do brazilian jiu-jitsu but can't
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wear a certain outfit but you're more uh you're christian right you're traditional right conservative
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fairly i mean i also like i do bottle service so it's like i do wear those outfits that are
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promiscuous but yeah you know my fiance is totally fine with that he knows that i'm loyal to him he
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knows that you know i come home in good faith i guess i have a bit of a nitpick here because you
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say that, uh, so man, let's say a guy didn't want his girlfriend to take kind of thirst trap photos
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or bikini photos, or wanted her to not, you know, dress revealing. Would you say that's insecure?
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Um, I think it depends where it kind of roots from. So, I mean, if you're one of the guys that
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just counts like a tank top as too revealing, I think that's something completely different.
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I can understand if, you know, he was like, you know what, I'm just not a fan of you wearing
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lingerie to work anymore you know i just don't deem it as respectful to our relationship which
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not entirely true because i am very loyal to race ship but yeah i could see where that's coming from
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okay but i think where that comes from it's kind of like the whole like insulting they're talking
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about earlier how you know some men just kind of project insecurities onto women and i think that's
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where it comes from as well well i don't think it's insecure to um i i don't think it's insecure
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to uh have a preference as to how your girlfriend or wife presents herself publicly i don't think
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women have like any shortage of uh women typically don't have any shortage of um you know
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thoughts as to you know how their man could or does present themselves um it's understand from
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a christian perspective because you do say you're christian i think right you're traditional you're
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conservative. Um, I, I do think that, uh, it is within the purview of Christianity. Uh, there is
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a command, uh, there is a command for women to dress modestly. Yeah, for sure. So, and I did look
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at your Instagram. I would say there is definitely some immodest dress there. Yeah. I mean, I,
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frankly, I don't give a fuck, but, um, I don't think, I guess my pushback is you write that
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it's insecure for men to you know not want their girlfriend to wear like certain revealing outfits
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i think it's perfectly i think it's a perfectly acceptable um standard for men to have to not
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want their girlfriend to you know dress a certain way yeah no i completely understand that i think
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it's more also in the example of like when they just don't want their girlfriend like going out
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sit who's falling asleep just wait we're almost done i swear we're literally at the end
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three fucking minutes. I'm ending the show.
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you guys stay the whole time hello you have three minutes okay you have three minutes okay awesome
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okay um okay so done with your notes um there was one more thing from you but for the sake of time
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i'll have to uh skip it oh well i guess we didn't really get to get much into your stuff karina we
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didn't get to do anything from uh greta wait did i even write your notes down karina hold on
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oh you're at the very top wait what the fuck uh oh my god
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chill out bro just be a good sport stay till the end we're like i'm literally rapping here
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well i guess on this um hold on uh i mean there's a lot here for greta unfortunately like let's do
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like two of them i mean your friend's got to go so i pretty much just have time to wrap it okay i
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mean you're gonna come back to la i'm assuming we can i guess we can run it back if you want
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might not be relevant if it's a trendy thing just ask i mean it was this all your notes i could just
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bring up in three months or fucking next time you decide to to come uh did anybody did you get a
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hotel here yeah I'm in Westlake I have someone picking me up oh someone's like picking you up
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tonight oh okay because I was gonna see if we could arrange for something else for Greta so
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it's not like so we could do her shit uh is any are you driving to LA
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what part of la well i'm going to corona so like die so what about you
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what where's corona i'm flying oh from san avaro oh you have you have like a male friend or
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something no i have some friends going kind of like a rendezvous i didn't come here just for
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the purpose of this that's fine oh my god bro it's somewhat to my the show does i'll stay on
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show for like longer if you got if you also reimburse me for a hotel
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oh okay so i'm gonna i what's the root can you like put in the root so i can see if there's
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maybe a spot i could like uber from is it worth doing uh i think it's worth doing
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greda's notes and your notes i'm about to leave in like three minutes too like i gotta catch a
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of light wait who the fuck is elisa isn't that elisa just rapid
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i could do one from you i guess and then i'll do the outro um fuck it's unfortunate because
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there's a lot of good notes for you i guess um okay holy fuck bro i'm literally trying to do
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one thing and do the outro just be a good sport and fucking stay till the end i guess um she's
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heading out i gotta head out because i i'm literally okay well then i'll just do the
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outro and you guys cannot be rude and just stay for the fucking outro then
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all right bro then all your fucking promo for both of y'all is gone fuck that shit
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get fucked get fucked bro that's crazy i'll i i was i was literally about to do the fucking intro
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or excuse me not the intro the fucking outro because you were insisting like do one thing
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from me and i was like okay but you could have done one thing for five minutes you were just
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reading and like and like yapping and like blabbering and not like because you guys were
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trying to arrange some other ride here so i was gonna i was waiting giving it some more time
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uh so yeah okay um well also by the way like the the plan for you was like the agreement was you'd
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stay the whole show you should have planned better uh well one girl's late she's the fucking alicia
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that fucking obnoxious chick she's like she burned honestly like two or three hours of the show
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that fucking chick just like inserting herself constantly that's not your guys's fault to be
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fair partially to blame for me for engaging with her on that bullshit she was late we started the
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show like 25 30 minutes late i was literally gonna do the fucking intro or outro or whatever
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but fuck it um i'm tapped out i guess uh okay uh so uh i okay i mean it literally it literally
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we tell people here's how long the show could go
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I guess let me just see if there's any chats from anybody
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we should take deposits from people that's an idea for you you should take deposits from people
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and don't give them back i mean i've thought of everything it doesn't really uh it doesn't really
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change anything to the women are broken well they are willing to be honest the look i don't really
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have an interest in having a conversation about how i should like manage the people who come on
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the show. But, um, the idea here is if you ask people for a deposit, um, that's going to scare
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away people who would otherwise come on the show. Sure. So if it's like, so somebody who would
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show up a portion of the people who would show up, if you introduce a deposit, they're going to be
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like, nah, I'm not going to do that. And they won't come on the podcast. So I'm stuck between
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a rock in a hard place where it's like okay if you ask for the deposit by the way we've actually
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sometimes we've gone the deposit and they still no show or you know whatever but um i i don't
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think it's uh i think it'll turn away some good faith people who fully have the intention of
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coming and if the if you're like like i don't know if i tell some i don't know if i tell some
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some like person with like a million followers you got to pay me a deposit to come on the show
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and they would have a hundred percent shown shown up they're like i'm not paying a fucking deposit
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um so it's like this damned if you do damned if you don't it is a thought like yes charge a
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deposit to like try to prevent like trolls or flakes or whatever um but it does it does uh
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scare away people who would genuinely come on so uh so uh anyways okay let me wrap the show uh
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sorry my phone's dying so i can't see if we have any chats let me just check there and i think
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we're good all right well uh gg well played gg well played uh last call hit the like button
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please on your way out uh we didn't do the tiktoks we did questionnaire we didn't do makeup um
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uh hit the like button please also please leave a nice comment once the live ends i read them
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positivity is nice uh helps the algorithm uh thank you for tuning in tonight you could have been
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anywhere in the world but you're here with me i appreciate that thank you to everyone who super
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chats donates and supports the show we will be live again sunday uh 5 p.m pacific any girls who
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want to be on the show dm at whatever on instagram if you can make it to santa barbara uh oh sevens
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in the chat i'm trying to think if there's i'm forgetting something uh yeah it's too bad like
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you can agree to disagree and still like someone
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I didn't have the energy to get barked at to be honest
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I think you know Elisha is kind of a person
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like everything that was wrong with her she was saying about you guys gotta but sometimes i i
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don't sometimes like you guys should voice that though and i think you two kind of tried a little
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bit but then she would like attack you it was just so much over yes it was just so much she
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didn't have enough respect for a host so i just did it just didn't have from us it did it didn't
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even feel like i want like she would learn anything from it like it felt like a waste of
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my energy no well it felt like it would just redirect you'd answer and then she'd like she
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was it felt like she was trolling because because even when i was talking to her she was like well
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you're saying this i was like no i'm not that's not what i'm saying very much so yeah it was
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bait yeah i think she's not that stupid she was doing things yeah but she's not as smart as she
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thinks she is either no i guess so maybe us three can come back yeah if brian would like us she's
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kind of doxing us a little bit what i'm not gonna i don't know if i should even comment on it because
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it'll just draw more attention to it um okay well uh let's see here uh is there anything else to go
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over well you guys were very kind um i know maybe there might have been some frustrations that you
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guys didn't get to especially when alicia was here to like weigh in as much as you could but uh i
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always am thankful for the people who make it to the end you guys were all on time thank you very
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much for that you guys were you guys were all very uh polite and uh you guys were probably the
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some of the other panelists were a little difficult but no complaints for any of you
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you guys were wonderful our pleasure yeah honestly i was very nervous well i mean lights camera live
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stream 10 hours on life and i avoid social media well 10 hours here right give or take well yeah
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No, it's, it's, it's long. And, uh, I mean, a lot of, for a lot of people, it's their
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first time ever doing, uh, like a podcast and, uh, it's like, it's kind of, I mean,
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I'm used to it now. I've done 300 of these, but, uh, I do YouTube, but never live. That
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was nerve wracking. All right. Well, uh, I think we're done with, uh, everything. Karina,
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we'll have you back. We'll have you back. Uh, you're in LA, right? Or, um, I'm in Denver,
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but i mean i visit la pretty you go to la pretty frequently i'm pretty flexible oh i guess final
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thing for you uh if you guys don't mind like two minutes uh otherwise i can wrap if you guys want
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to get out of here so you did mma and i think in one of your notes you were saying how uh
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somebody forgot someone forgot their phone no ain't that something who was it she forgot her
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phone gret gretta forgot her phone well oh this time she could have stayed they could have yeah
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well uh hey uh ivy's dming me right now one second ivy are you watching the stream right now
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i'll give you 10 seconds to answer well ivy sorry to inform you uh because you guys couldn't give
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me an extra three minutes you're you guys are gonna have to wait to come and get her phone
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until we are in a position where it's accommodating for us to give you your phone so
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maybe we'll walk it down maybe one of the girls can walk it down you're going to have to wait
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your emergency or your lack of forethought in grabbing your phone before you leave
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does not constitute an emergency on my end ivy so i know you wanted to leave and i'm not doing
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this vindictively, you're going to have to wait until we're ready to bring you the phone. We'll
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bring it to you. Uh, we'll bring it to you. I guess we could even bring you up maybe, but
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you're going to have to wait, um, until there's a appropriate moment for us to either let you back
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in or to bring it down. Uh, uh, here, let me message her really quick. So she's not, uh,
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yeah we can bring it down but it's gonna have to wait a moment okay uh well isn't that ironic
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karma no i'm just a dick i'm a dick guys all right um well thank you guys again you guys
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were wonderful um oh seven's in the chat guys oh seven's in the chat good night guys and we will
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see you oh wait hold on i have a debate there's a debate i think 23rd wait 24th wait fuck
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i thought you wanted to debate it's either i know i was like there's a debate either thursday or
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friday i'm not sure but i don't know it's there okay oh seven's in the chat good night guys
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what the fuck oh my god she's thinking find my eye fine okay uh oh seven oh seven's in the chat
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guys good night uh and wait tiffany you got to go wait actually wait hold on uh okay oh sevens
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in the chat guys good night and we will see you guys next time good night