Candace Owens DESTROYS Whatever Podcast FULL VIDEO
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On this episode of Whatever Dating Talk, host Brian Atlas sits down with three young women to talk about their experiences as sex workers, Twitch streamers, and other forms of media they work in. They also talk about how they got their start as content creators, and how they came up with the idea for their new podcast, Convicting a Murderer.
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brings you a world of stories all in one place.
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Discover five days of readings, talks, workshops and more
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We are coming to you live from Santa Barbara, California
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Without further ado, we're going to have the guests
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So please tell us your name, age and occupation.
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I'm 31 and I'm a flight attendant and content creator.
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I am 22 years old and I'm a full-time sex worker.
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Not like for criminal reasons, but like a, have you ever been?
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I mean, there's, there's still Kings out there that have a court.
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So you could like the Philippines, do they have a King?
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There's the King of Sweden, King of, so like an actual, you know, court.
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I'm 24 years old and I stream politics on Twitch.
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My passion is social media management and then I do OnlyFans as well.
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I am a legal sex worker and I am an OnlyFans content creator.
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I'm 22 years old and I'm an EEG technician and research assistant in the field of clinical
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I'm graduating soon and I'm a personal trainer and my goal is to be a worship artist.
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I'm a mother at first and I also obviously have a political podcast, documentary filmmaker
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and I just create a ton of content regarding what's going on in the media landscape.
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And you have tomorrow a documentary coming soon.
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And yeah, it's jumping into kind of building on Netflix made Making a Murderer.
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It was very, everyone was obsessed with this idea that the justice system got it wrong.
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We kind of went in, re-examined the case and created Convicting a Murderer, which is a
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10-part series, first docu-series I think we've ever done at the Daily Wire.
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So I'm super excited to bring it to everybody and to change people's minds about what they
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And you went, if I, you went boots on the ground in, was it Manitowoc County?
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And, yeah, just, I like to get my hands dirty in terms of really understanding what's going
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on and talking to people in the town and seeing how they are impacted.
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Because for us, we scroll through our cell phones aimlessly and we comment on these cases.
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But real lives are impacted when something goes viral and especially when something goes
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And in this particular circumstance, you have a man and his nephew that are in prison and
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they get love letters and they've got fiancés and adoring fans and people writing songs
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And that's all because Netflix was able to produce a docu-series and people believe that
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And so I'm really interested in dissecting the deceptive media narrative in a bunch of
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Just, you know, what they're feeding people, what people think is the norm, what people
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think will bring them happiness, what people think is true.
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And so that's kind of been my schtick, so to speak, for the last 10 years.
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I remember seeing Making a Murder when it came out, I think it was 2015.
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And then they came out with like a part two a couple years later.
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And basically, my understanding is your documentary is saying, nah, he did that shit.
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I mean, there's obviously, you go into some details and you've reanalyzed the court footage
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Yeah, just showing people what they didn't want you to see, essentially.
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Because when people decide in a narrative, the media gets fully behind it.
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It's supported by the usual pundits and suspects.
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Alec Baldwin got behind the Stephen Avery innocent train.
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Nobody thought about the woman who actually was killed and murdered.
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You know, I kind of say anything that goes from Netflix to Alec Baldwin to Trevor Noah,
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you should immediately have your radar up and just go, am I hearing the truth?
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And I'm fascinated by the impact of propaganda.
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You know, I'm obviously a person that started with liberal tendencies.
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So it's right on par with everything that I do and everything that I've learned in my life
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about, you know, not just accepting what the media is trying to spoon-feed you.
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One question, so, and I don't know if you want to save some of this for what's in the
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actual documentary, but what would you say is, like, the most egregious thing making a
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murderer did that they just either, something that was deceptive or something that was omitted,
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if there's one thing that was just the biggest smoking gun?
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Yeah, well, I think I can definitely tell you this because this will be, within the next
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But just skipping over who he was before he, they believed, was wrongly convicted of this
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murder, people tend to tell you who they are early on.
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And a person that's torturing animals and cats and dogs and, you know, in a relationship that
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is, you know, with a minor who's crying and talking about that.
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You know, he just had a very long, thick packet of crimes that they decided not to mention or to
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entirely diminish and make it seem like, oh, that was nothing.
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He threw a cat in the fire and doused it in gasoline, the family pet.
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And not normal behavior, not something that we do when we have a couple of drinks.
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And I think that was kind of the most egregious thing, really unpacking everything that they
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Can I make a pitch to you and to the Daily Wire for the next documentary?
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Could you guys maybe put Matt Walsh and Michael Knowles on it?
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Oh my God, Matt Walsh and the Tiger King needs to happen.
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I will bring this to the right people who can make the right decisions.
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Can I get like a little special thanks in the...
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Do you think that Matt Walsh would be the best at the Daily Wire to tackle the...
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There's just something about the fact that Matt's a cat and he always kind of gives you
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the impression that he doesn't want to be there and he just has to kind of lecture us
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And I just find him to be so funny even when he's not trying to be funny.
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So what is your, everybody's current relationship status?
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Are you in the talking stage, situationship, friends with benefits, relationship, married,
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So if you're single, how long have you been single?
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And my longest relationship was probably about four years.
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I've been single for about, I want to say a year now.
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My longest relationship was like around three to four years.
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And I've been single since like February around there.
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Um, I've been single for six years almost now, so.
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Since you were pretty much 18, you've been single?
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Has, did you have like a high school boyfriend or anything like that or?
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Yeah, I think I dated two guys in high school, but it was very brief.
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So I just got out of a relationship of six months with a federal agent and I am single.
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Um, and what's your longest relationship you've ever had?
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My longest relationship was a little over a year and I've been single for about one year.
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Um, I just started talking to somebody a couple of weeks ago, but I guess I'm single and my
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You, you just started talking to somebody, but you're.
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I don't want to, I don't want to, yeah, I don't want to get into any trouble.
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No, I have a biological understanding that it's a boy.
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It's definitively a boy and, uh, I have one boy already at home who's two and I have a
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So we're on the back to, I've basically been pregnant for three years.
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So this is kind of my permanent state at the moment.
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And, uh, it's certainly impressive that you still, uh, are, you're working like crazy
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Well, otherwise you'll just drive yourself crazy.
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And you, you said, um, earlier on that you used to be kind of left-leaning or super left-leaning?
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No, no, there's no, there's no old photos that are going to surface of me in a pussy hat
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But, um, I mean, I would say, uh, I was definitely on the left, held liberal perspectives, which I think
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I think when you're young, you kind of associate liberalism with freedom and you're like, well,
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I mean, even the word sounds better to be a liberal than to be a conservative.
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Um, so I, I think that's, that's why they have that quote that if you're not a liberal, when
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If you're not a conservative, when you're older, you don't have a brain.
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So it turns out I had a heart and I do have a brain.
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Uh, so now I'm a conservative and, um, but I, I'm actually happy that I used to be a liberal
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because I, I think I understand why people gravitate toward it and, uh, it helps me better
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able to communicate to people because I can understand where they're at.
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And since, uh, we, I feel like politics is sort of related to dating because obviously you
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want, I assume most people want to date and partner with someone who has shared values.
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Would you consider yourself, let's say liberal, moderate, conservative, apolitical?
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I mean, I guess I would have liberal stances or what people would call liberal stances.
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I don't like to call myself a liberal, but that would be where I guess.
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I would say I'm an independent where it's like in between.
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But kind of more so leading right just based off of how I was raised.
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Are there some things you're a bit more progressive on?
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Other things you're a bit more conservative on?
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So when I started out in my early 20s, I can relate to Candace.
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And then as time has gone on and I've worked real jobs and I've been out in the real world,
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I am independent and I don't like our two-party system.
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I was raised very liberal, but I found myself becoming more conservative, especially over
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But I wouldn't fully call myself a conservative yet.
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I used to be pretty liberal, but I am very, very conservative.
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Thank you for being on the show, Candace, but the world is effed.
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Can already tell from the panel that your views will not change their outlook.
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I've had a couple accusations that this show is a psyop.
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You have any show that is an accusation that you get.
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Dear Candace, what are your thoughts on Proverbs 2119?
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Better to live in a desert than with a quarrelsome and nagging wife.
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Quadrillion, seven hundred and seventy-seven quadrillion.
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Seven hundred and seventy-seven billion seven hundred and seventy-seven thousand seven hundred and seventy-seven thousand seven hundred and seventy-seven.
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I like that we just jumped right into the Bible.
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I would say, yeah, you should aspire to marry the right person.
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Without question, you should aspire to marry the right person.
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And part of that is making sure that when you're dating, you're dating somebody of value.
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And that also, when you're considering looking for someone of value, you also take a second to measure yourself and see if you are a person of value that's worthy of marrying.
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So, recently, a video went pretty viral on the Internet.
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So, Nick, if you can pull up the video, we're going to just have the panel react to it.
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And then, before you go full screen on that, so, Matt Walsh posted it.
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Her life doesn't revolve around her family and kids.
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So, instead, it revolves around TV shows and pop stars.
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Worst of all, she's too stupid to realize how depressing this is.
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Future depression, Xanax, and wine combo nights alone looks like.
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Here's what your Saturday morning looks like when you're single at 29 and you don't have a kid running around the house.
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Every time I thought, I should probably get up and do something, I thought, why?
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I went to Beyonce last night, and I didn't get home until 1 a.m., and I danced and drank my little heart out, and I didn't pay a babysitter to watch my kids as I did that.
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And I woke up a tad hungover this morning, which is probably why I was in bed for so long.
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And I was just scrolling on my phone, and I saw a picture of Shashuka, and I thought, you know what sounds really good?
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Maybe I'm going to learn how to make Shashuka today.
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Because I have no plans, and I don't have kids, and I don't have a husband, and I don't have errands to run.
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I can go to the grocery store and learn how to make Shashuka, so that's on my agenda today.
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Also on my agenda, probably a rewatch of some Real Housewives of New York.
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I'm also doing a rewatch of Normal People on Hulu, which is really spicy and I highly recommend.
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Weirdly, I'm into this documentary on Netflix about Blue Zone countries, so I've got a pretty stacked day.
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Anyway, I say all this to say, whenever I'm hard on myself about why I'm not married, and I don't have kids,
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and I should be further along at 29, almost 30, I wouldn't want to do anything else this Saturday.
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I know that you can do all these things when you have kids, and you're married, and I understand.
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But the effortlessness and ease of my life, just kind of focusing on myself,
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and the Shashuka I want to make, or the Beyonce concert I want to go to, really pays off when
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I'm hard on myself for not being where society tells me I should be in life.
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So, what, why do you guys think that this video went kind of crazy viral, and what's the analysis here?
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I mean, it went crazy viral because Matt Walsh tweeted it, let's be real.
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That would have just gone into the ethosphere on TikTok, and no one would have talked about it
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Well, was Matt, I don't know if Matt Walsh was, like, the first person.
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Oh, was he? Really? Okay, I didn't, I didn't know that.
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But, I guess my, what's interesting to me is that this woman has actually even said, you know,
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So, I don't think that it's right to demonize her and act like she's going to have a depressing life
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when she just hasn't found the right person because, clearly, she wants those things,
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and she's trying to make herself feel better, and other people in that community feel better
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Because, like you said, you wanted people to settle down with the right person,
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take their time, figure out if that's the right person.
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So, just because she's 29, you're saying that it's, like, too late for her,
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and she's going to be doing Xanax and drinking wine at night because she hasn't reached that point yet.
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I didn't say that. That's not what my tweet said.
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Yeah, because she's obviously a narcissist, right?
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First and foremost, let's not pretend this is one video that she made.
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She talks about these are this community known as Dinks.
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She talks about how great it is to be childless.
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So, she has developed a social media influencer that talks about childlessness.
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So, let's not pretend this is one woman making a video who just said,
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There's absolutely no reason if you had a great Saturday at 29 years old,
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and you learned to make shashuka, and you slept in at 11, until 11, 15, or 10, 15, whatever she said,
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The fact that she has to correlate it to saying,
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and this somehow makes me better than people that have children is the problem.
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She started, she literally goes on to talk about not having children.
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So, it's not like people are just shaming single women on the internet.
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You could go on right now and talk about what you've done all day,
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and there's no reason to bring up having a child or not.
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She's actually doing the shaming, and now we're trying to pretend that she's the victim.
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She has a brand where she talks about childlessness,
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and all the things that are amazing about not having children.
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Again, this is not the first video that she's produced.
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So, the reason why, and if you're a man watching this, don't marry this woman.
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Even if you're single, you don't have to make your whole day revolve around you.
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You can say, now that I have free time as a single woman,
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That particular woman that you just looked at is a selfish bitch,
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I wanted to answer your question real quick as to you said why it went viral.
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I think it went viral because it's like nowadays it's like it's relatable in our day and age.
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I don't know how old this girl is, but like 29 or whatever.
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But in my day and age, like it's relatable to be like, ha ha, we don't got kids.
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Like that's why it gets so many views is what to answer your question.
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I think that's really honest of you to say that.
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But you're admitting that that so that she's starting the fight.
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I don't, when I, when I'm with my kids, I don't post videos and say F them single chicks
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The first thing I noticed about the video was that she was putting people with kids down.
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It'd be fine if she was talking about how her day was and sporting it differently,
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but it seemed like almost immediately from the beginning of the video that she was belittling
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people with kids, which I think is like the part of the problem.
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Yeah, no, I think this is like up to interpretation because personally, when I saw that video,
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my interpretation was like, oh, she's putting herself down because she's saying like, oh,
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you know, when I tell myself, why am I not further along in life?
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You know, it's okay because at least I'm enjoying these things.
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So I could definitely see like, depending on how you're looking at it, or if you have
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further context, why you would think she's putting kids down.
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But when I saw that video by itself, I was thinking like, people are kind of going a little
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bit overboard in the sense that she says she's being harsh on herself.
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And these are just the things that have made her happy today.
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And I don't think that by itself without additional context is inherently wrong.
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I mean, I don't know the background of what other types of content and messaging she puts
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out, but just from that video alone, I don't think she ever, to me, I never got the impression
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she was shaming people that did, that women that were married had kids.
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It felt like she felt bad that she wasn't already there and she was just trying to be
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And so I think it sounded more like her content was about making women who are childless and
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not married yet and are approaching the end of their reproductive years to like look on
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But I really, and I'm the, I, all my friends know I'm like so eager and ready for like marriage
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and kids, but, um, I, I really honestly just didn't get that impression from that video
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So when she was talking about, I got to go to a Beyonce concert and I didn't have to pay
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You don't think that was the little, it's so, she was obviously, she was selfish of her
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And if it was flipped and a conservative woman with children said the opposite of that
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And they would say, how rude of you to, why are you even mentioning single women?
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Just say you had, you had a good day with your kids.
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And I feel like nowadays it's like, okay, chill.
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It doesn't, you know, it doesn't make any sense.
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So, and like I said, she's produced more content so that the context is important.
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She's leaned into this as a brand and as an influencer.
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So, you know, then you're going to expect the people that influence people to have families
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to respond, Matt Walsh being among them, me being among them.
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And I do would like to, again, mourn men against marrying a woman who holds those sorts of
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perspectives because she's ultimately just selfish.
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Like I said, you can have a day and you can be single.
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You don't have to dedicate your whole, it's me, me, me, me, narcissist, me.
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It's just not a woman that you want to marry full stop for leaving apart, leaving the kids
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And all I'm saying is like, it is, it's sad, but it's crazy that like, it's a trend.
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Like, that's why they're getting so many views on TikTok or Instagram or whatever they're
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But one thing I notice, a trend, like I agree that it's a trend and she's doing that to
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brand herself and go viral and get a lot of attention and maybe monetize that.
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When I talk with other girls and they're younger and I'll say, are you married?
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And it's maybe perhaps, you know, these kind of trends are like the, it's a rebellious
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thing because sometimes it's expected for, for people to, to get married out of the gate
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and have children and that kind of traditional lifestyle.
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If it's an expectation that parents have that they put on, on their children and younger
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generations aren't having it, especially these days when it's so hard to, I mean, it's
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People are having to work a lot, you know, I mean, that's just one thing I've noticed.
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A little pushback on that question, even when I ask it.
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And did, I don't recall if you had a response to Candace or.
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I mean, I was just going to say the opposite content does exist.
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And I would say that it's more prevalent and usually there's more of it than there is the
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And whatever community she wants to represent, I think that somebody that is single and
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obviously, like I said, she closed out the video saying, I know that women that are married
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and have children can do all of these things as well, but this is what makes me feel better
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And I think if she's giving comfort and solace to women that want to be in that position and
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aren't quite there yet, whether you took it that way or not, I think that that's okay.
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I don't think anything that she did in there was meant to be charitable.
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So, I mean, just a different, different interpretation.
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But I'm just happy that you were honest and admitted that it is becoming trendy to put down
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And, but by the way, speaking to what you were saying about it being an act of rebellion,
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I would have probably had the same perspectives as you about family.
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And you will realize that when it's someone that's 29 years old and saying that it's not
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It's not, I'm young, I'm free, I'm wild, and I think I'm going to live forever.
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And also just recently today, actually, Emily, Emma, Emma Roderick-Jakowski came out with a
00:30:01.540
quote about, I think getting divorced before you're 30 is chic.
00:30:05.500
And that a woman at 22, a woman at 29 saying something that is appropriate when you're at
00:30:15.320
And like I said, if you look into our content, this is not some innocent woman that was posting
00:30:26.200
I want to come back a little bit now to people's relationship status.
00:30:33.500
So, or not even so much relationship status, but perhaps it's related.
00:30:37.500
So, both of you do court, courtship, courtship, courtesan, that's an old-fashioned historical
00:30:51.920
Back in the day, courtesans were able to own property, whereas the Little Miss didn't
00:30:58.660
have that ability, the way the laws were written back in the day of ancient years.
00:31:07.160
And then the courtesans were able to go and attend the meetings with the politicians and
00:31:13.220
the business owners and actually state their case and be influential.
00:31:17.300
But, okay, so I'm just trying to differentiate here because courtesan, that's, when I think
00:31:24.180
of it, I think of people who are in the court, typically, there's a kingdom.
00:31:30.460
There's a kingdom, there's a monarch, and there's, you know, maybe some of them are dukes, maybe.
00:31:42.060
There's a couple of, I don't know, some other terms.
00:31:49.400
But, okay, so you guys work in Nevada, is that correct?
00:32:05.960
Oh, so you guys both don't work there, or you don't work there anymore.
00:32:08.900
Do you still work at the, what is it called, the Bunny Ranch?
00:32:15.260
So, like, when we're on tour, we contract ourselves out, you know, with whomever.
00:32:26.340
So, I don't know, maybe it's changed throughout the course of your life, but how many, maybe
00:32:33.660
you see men, maybe you see women, how many per day or per week, do you call them clients?
00:32:47.060
I mean, some providers may, but they're not maybe the most respectful.
00:32:50.760
I like to deem them friends as soon as I get to know them.
00:33:01.900
Anywhere from, like, two to three a day, that's a lot.
00:33:41.940
When, coming off the heels of Dennis Hoff's cat house, there were, I mean, ten.
00:34:10.940
I was mentioning, after Dennis Hoff did his famous show, Cat House on HBO, he drummed up
00:34:25.140
Those were the days where maybe you'd be seeing, like, ten clients, twelve clients in a day.
00:34:33.060
And for, for you two, has, being involved in prostitution, has it had any impact when
00:34:46.560
They've, I've got to be able to be, I've got to be able to be myself and fully disclose,
00:34:51.060
and I need that person to accept me for who I am.
00:34:54.960
Um, I have had no issues doing, uh, being a legal prostitute.
00:35:04.000
Um, I've had no issues being a legal prostitute just because I haven't been dating anybody,
00:35:11.920
Uh, as for everything else, um, it's hard dating, um, I've ran into a lot of insecure
00:35:20.580
Typically, those are the ones that can't handle me doing what I do for work.
00:35:28.500
So, you've run into a lot of insecure men, and are they insecure because they don't want
00:35:35.260
to date you because you are currently active as a prostitute?
00:35:38.200
No, I'm saying I've never dated a guy while I was, uh, working at the brothels at the
00:35:44.360
Bunny Ranch or the Mustang Ranch, but I've been dating guys, like, between me doing camming
00:35:55.000
What, what make, what specifically are they doing that makes them insecure?
00:35:59.740
Is it because they're insecure about your work?
00:36:01.900
Yes, like, uh, I've had exes in the past that would cry about me going to work to dance
00:36:08.480
Um, I've had guys try to control, like, what I wear and, uh, say that I can't work at strip
00:36:20.920
Okay, is it because they're insecure, or is that just them having boundaries and standards?
00:36:25.700
I feel like that's, I mean, you knew what I was doing before you met me, right?
00:36:32.300
Right, so all of them knew exactly what I was doing before they met me, which brings
00:36:37.520
it to, yeah, if you have a problem with what I do before you meet me, maybe don't get involved
00:36:46.700
Um, you knew what I was doing before you met me.
00:36:53.960
I think, too, um, gentlemen love the idea of dating us, and then once we go to do it,
00:37:03.160
Right, it's almost like fetish, fetish, fetish, right, it's like, oh, it's so hot, I have a
00:37:10.340
girlfriend that does this, that, and the other, and then when they're really at home and I'm
00:37:15.040
like on OnlyFans or on a call with a client or whatever, they're like, no, this is weird,
00:37:21.980
And that, I think it's an insecurity, yes, because you knew where I was coming from, you
00:37:29.580
knew what I was doing, and you weren't okay with it, then you should have made that a point.
00:37:37.040
I mean, I suppose you have a point that, I mean, if they knew going in that you, this
00:37:41.820
is what you do for work, you're a stripper, or you're doing OnlyFans, or you're doing sex
00:37:46.360
work, then I think it's a little bit of a stretch that all of a sudden, a couple weeks
00:37:54.000
or months into a relationship, then they start changing up.
00:37:56.440
But I think to differentiate the conversation a little bit, for example, like let's say,
00:38:01.620
and I don't know if you mentioned this, when it comes to like posting, perhaps revealing
00:38:05.180
photos online, not intended for commercial, like they're just on Instagram, but they're
00:38:11.080
not monetizing it, they're not content creators, or like, for example, if they go to the bar,
00:38:17.140
club, party a lot, would you consider it insecure if a guy, maybe three months into a relationship,
00:38:25.000
at that point he started having issues with you or with another girl?
00:38:30.980
Well, hey, he started saying, hey, I don't, I don't want you to go in the clubs and bars
00:38:47.900
Well, I guess my framing is, prior to dating, he had no problem with you or with another girl
00:38:53.500
engaging in what he considered to be single behavior at the time.
00:38:57.340
But once you, or whoever it is, started dating, he wanted his partner to act in a way that
00:39:03.680
he thought was more consistent with being in a relationship.
00:39:07.140
So, perhaps it's okay to go out to, me personally, even if I'm single, I'm not really interested
00:39:11.700
in going to bars, clubs, and I don't post revealing photos online, but I don't know, I feel like
00:39:19.260
I mean, there's certainly men that post like, whatever, anyways.
00:39:21.160
But, once you get into the relationship, there's expectations that certain things change.
00:39:31.780
Well, yeah, I mean, I'm just differentiating when it comes to like, posting, revealing
00:39:35.100
photos, if it's not for your work, or going to bars and clubs.
00:39:39.400
Then, yeah, like, I can separate my work identity from my personal life.
00:39:44.480
I think, I mean, if we're talking to somebody that's not a sex worker and is posting, revealing
00:39:48.080
photos, I think that that's something that you talk about before getting into a relationship
00:39:51.960
with somebody, because then, if you're talking, you know, and a guy is like, you know, my expectations
00:39:59.500
I don't like these kind of revealing photos for my girlfriend.
00:40:04.720
And then, I think from then on, that's when you decide whether to make a relationship serious
00:40:07.920
or not, because if she doesn't want to restrict where she's going or what she's doing
00:40:12.000
or the type of photos she's posting for him, then that's her decision.
00:40:14.700
But I don't think that it's wrong for a partner to ask her, you know, hey, if we're in a relationship,
00:40:21.560
And then, you know, she makes the decision, yes, I will do those things or no.
00:40:24.720
But do you think that so early on, like, say, on the first date or second date, that there's
00:40:30.460
enough of a relationship established for a guy to have enough, I don't know if leverage
00:40:37.920
is the right word, but, like, enough pull or influence to be like, hey, listen, I don't
00:40:48.120
But that's, I mean, she just said that you should early on, you should say, I don't...
00:40:56.920
I mean, okay, wait, wait, I think there's two things going on here.
00:41:01.420
I think you can date someone, and then as a relationship evolves and changes, some things
00:41:06.560
that you thought you were comfortable with, you're like, hey, I'm not really comfortable
00:41:12.380
But I think that's very distinct than going into a relationship thinking, oh, I don't like
00:41:17.400
the fact that she posts these types of photos, I'm going to make her stop, you know, I'm going
00:41:22.140
Because you're setting up, I think, everyone for disappointment.
00:41:24.500
You're setting up yourself, her, there's a difference between going into something, having
00:41:28.920
feelings change, talking from there, and intentionally trying to change before you even date, really.
00:41:34.880
If you ever fell in love with somebody, would you be willing to delete all of your stuff
00:41:42.460
If you, as a sex worker and everything that you do, if you fell in love and you found
00:41:49.140
So with that being said, I am currently single because of what I do for work.
00:41:54.500
I am very much so busy doing my work and I am full throttle, like, wanting to make money
00:42:00.680
and capitalize off of this industry to the best of my ability and make it to the point
00:42:08.060
And then it's like, also making this much money and doing what I do for work, it puts
00:42:12.340
me in a position to be able to meet the type of guys that I want to meet, right?
00:42:19.060
And maybe later on down the line, not anytime yet, uh, I would be open to it.
00:42:25.980
If I find everything happens for a reason, you know, never say never, but like, if I
00:42:32.560
found Prince Charming or something one day and he didn't want me doing this anymore, like
00:42:47.220
And when you say high end men, what do you mean by that?
00:42:49.900
Like, like high value men or men with a lot of money?
00:43:00.080
Uh, so both of you do OnlyFans, having done OnlyFans, continuing to do OnlyFans, has it
00:43:07.480
had any negative impacts on your dating prospects?
00:43:21.140
No one has ever, cause I'm very upfront too, you know, first date.
00:43:24.780
If this is what I do, if you don't like it, this is how I make my money.
00:43:27.920
Unless you're going to pay me the same amount of money I'm making, then I'm not going to
00:43:33.700
Um, but yeah, I never really ran into issues, but again, I don't do full pornographic content
00:43:40.040
So it probably is a little bit different for somebody on OnlyFans that does do that type
00:43:45.520
Um, but I personally have never ran into an issue.
00:43:48.200
My boyfriend at first was, you know, I told him and he was like, okay, well, if I'm going
00:44:10.020
Um, I've also never had an issue, um, in my dating life.
00:44:17.020
But, but it might not necessarily be related to that.
00:44:27.980
So I think that also maybe helps cause I, I, so.
00:44:34.900
So, um, what are your thoughts on OnlyFans, uh, sex work?
00:44:41.800
And do you believe that, uh, a woman doing OnlyFans or porn might have an impact on her
00:44:52.300
So let me know if you need me to repeat anything.
00:44:53.640
Um, I, I've talked about this extensively on my show.
00:44:56.220
I mean, the truth is that if you are going to engage in sex work, you are going to probably
00:45:01.400
make a lot of money, especially if you're young, um, you're on a very tight rope as
00:45:05.580
you get older, your value goes down and men are going to want women that are younger and
00:45:10.840
Um, I'm talking about in terms of just making the person who will subscribe to your OnlyFans
00:45:14.940
page, you know, obviously women, it's, you're, you're declining as you age as, and, um, the
00:45:20.080
truth is, is that high value men don't want to date women that are sex workers or even
00:45:23.340
women that aren't sex workers and lean into the whole talking about how sexy and then
00:45:29.020
are really, are freely available on the internet for other men to see.
00:45:32.040
What we're talking about is biological proclivity.
00:45:35.100
Um, what men are doing when they first say, uh, ah, this sounds amazing.
00:45:39.080
Did you date a stripper or did you date a prostitute or did you date a sex worker?
00:45:46.020
But then when they realize that actually a form of wanting to be in a relationship is
00:45:50.520
feeling that there's a mystery to a woman, that there's something that's yours, there's
00:45:54.460
something that's sacred, there's something that's powerful and beautiful that just
00:45:57.440
do share. And when they realize that they have to share that with other men, it
00:46:00.840
completely diminishes the man. Um, a recent cultural example of that obviously is
00:46:05.240
what's happening with Nina Agdahl. Uh, she's not a sex worker by any means.
00:46:08.620
This is, she just kind of said some sexy things on the internet, um, about wanting
00:46:13.060
cock and look at what was not expecting that from Kansas. I'm just, I'm quoting
00:46:18.660
her directly. So this is purely academic, purely academic and look at what
00:46:24.460
happens. You know, now Logan has become the lot laughing stock of other men as
00:46:29.160
they piece together everything that she's ever said that's overtly sexual.
00:46:32.680
And again, she's not a sex worker, but what happened is her value just completely
00:46:35.920
plummeted because, uh, you know, they're this thing that men need to feel. Um, and I
00:46:43.080
don't want to say possession in a way that sounds bad because it's not bad.
00:46:46.580
It's actually really beautiful. Um, and I'm lucky and fortunate that I get to
00:46:52.240
experience that in my marriage, you know, and, and it's, it's something that women
00:46:55.700
should strive toward women that make those exchanges in their youth. I think
00:46:58.760
that's sad. And I do feel bad for me to Agdahl is because she said a lot of those
00:47:02.340
statements when she was really young. She's probably your age. Um, and she had a
00:47:06.300
camera and she said it and it lives forever. And now every man that she dates is
00:47:10.560
going to say Dylan Danis has made her available to everyone. And it's, it's, I hope
00:47:16.640
things work out between her and Logan, but if you don't think that that's going to
00:47:19.560
impact Logan or that's not actively impacting him as a man, it is. Um, so
00:47:25.080
with women, it's a trade-off. First thing you said was I make money. This is
00:47:28.980
about money. It's about money. But when it comes down to marrying these women, men,
00:47:33.860
And that's exactly why I said that in this industry, I'm single until I retire.
00:47:41.260
I don't plan on doing this or getting married or finding the love of my life
00:47:46.640
until I retire. Like truthfully. And then after that, you see what happens to
00:47:50.160
Nina Agdahl. No, no, no. And then after that, I will be honest and truthful with
00:47:54.100
the person that I will be getting married to or whatever. And it'll be up to him to
00:47:58.400
accept that. Right. So, and I'm just saying that men's natural proclivity is to not
00:48:03.400
accept that because it brings them shame. Um, men are biologically proud creatures.
00:48:09.100
I understand, but not everybody can be like that. No, I know. I'm not, I'm just telling
00:48:12.820
you what is happening and why people are talking about cultural events, Nina Agdahl thing. And
00:48:17.740
if you look at people like Emily Rajkowski, she's obviously hot. Um, but this is a woman
00:48:22.740
who's now trying to make divorce chic. And I think that the understanding is in Hollywood
00:48:26.980
is, you know, sleep with her and move on. She's not marriage material. Um, her husband,
00:48:31.660
when he had her cheated on her because they didn't have that thing. She was, I feel like
00:48:36.360
I've, I've slept with the girl. I've seen her naked so many times. Right. So there's
00:48:39.500
nothing special about Sebastian bear marrying her because we've all seen her
00:48:42.620
naked. There's nothing sacred in that relationship. And I'm just speaking on
00:48:47.720
telling you, you know, this is why women struggle to get married when they've made
00:48:52.880
themselves available on only fans because other men don't want to share. They
00:48:57.080
don't want to share their wife. They maybe will share their girlfriend. They might
00:48:59.540
think it's fun to date a stripper for a little bit. They might think, Oh, this means
00:49:02.340
I'm going to have sex 12 times a day. But then when it gets down to just their
00:49:06.340
biological instinct, it's, it's actually quite embarrassing for them as a man
00:49:09.920
because they can look up your girl and here she is, you know? So that's what I
00:49:14.620
think is happening. Yeah. I'm, um, I'm just curious about your opinion on this
00:49:18.800
because I've seen like a couple of people in like Red Spill spaces, like
00:49:22.300
Tate's or people similar to that talking about how they should marry a young
00:49:27.020
woman. Would you agree or disagree that that might not be the most like
00:49:31.040
rational course of action? To marry a young woman? What do you mean by that?
00:49:34.600
Yes. That I hear a lot of men talk about how a woman inherently loses value as she
00:49:39.440
gets older. And that's why that they should seek out young women.
00:49:42.720
Um, well, I live in the South and a lot of people get married young and I think
00:49:46.420
it's really beautiful and wonderful. They're, they preserve this sort of
00:49:48.880
innocence. I have people that work for me that want to get married at 22. They drop
00:49:52.560
out of school. So I don't think there's anything wrong with marrying when you're
00:49:55.960
young. Um, I'd have to see the full context of what they're talking about because I do
00:50:00.640
think obviously the longer you wait and especially in this society that's creating
00:50:05.860
the simulation that sexuality equates to freedom when it doesn't, um, that what he
00:50:10.400
might be suggesting is that the longer a woman runs free, the more partners that
00:50:14.880
she's gathering and her, her worth is being diminished. And I think that there is
00:50:18.580
some veracity to that. Um, but you know, if it's said in a way that sounds a little
00:50:22.960
crass, like seek out younger women because they're not as used and I can see why people
00:50:26.320
would be offended by it, but there that might be underpinned by a little bit of
00:50:29.980
logic. So I'd have to see the clip in its entirety. Yeah. The reason why I'm
00:50:33.460
asking is because in general, I think, um, men do have a biological
00:50:37.360
proclivity, proclivity, I can't pronounce that word. Proclivity. Um, you
00:50:41.620
know, to seek out like youth and beauty. But I also think when it comes to like
00:50:44.820
settle down, um, you want a mother who's going to be responsible and good
00:50:49.260
towards her children. So I think the idea that like men seek out beauty is true, but I
00:50:54.400
also think men seek out a level of like responsibility and maturity that only comes
00:50:58.340
with age. So I was just curious because of the other stuff I've heard from people.
00:51:02.080
And also it's like, they, sex is just sex. Like it's just sex.
00:51:09.000
Huh? And when you have a partner, you have an emotional connection with them. And so
00:51:16.920
like the guy on your last podcast, the, he was on here a few days ago, he was saying
00:51:22.020
how like men for men, sex is just sex. But like spending time with a woman and like
00:51:28.740
buying her things and like going on trips with her is like different than having sex
00:51:35.460
with just random people. And that's why they were like in an open relationship or
00:51:40.240
Can I just have you scoot your mic that way a little bit?
00:51:43.240
I mean, I definitely wouldn't say that like swapping DNA is like just sex. I mean, a man
00:51:48.120
leaves a piece of himself inside of you, but man, that's the way they think. And like
00:51:52.340
for women, we get attached to them emotionally having sex with them, which is why it's more
00:51:58.700
of a, when women have a lot of partners, it's, it is different. It's, it's, it is worse in
00:52:05.240
a way. And people don't want to admit that, but because we are more emotional, there is an
00:52:09.560
attachment. It isn't just sex for women. Um, you know, I think women are damaged by those
00:52:15.320
relationships. Um, women like to think because of the social simulation that it can just be
00:52:20.860
sex. It's whatever non-committal. The only people that benefit from that lie are men.
00:52:26.020
You know, it, it is not great to have sex and have a man not call you back. It doesn't feel
00:52:30.900
good. It doesn't matter if a Buzzfeed article says it does. I had a wonderful weekend and
00:52:34.580
this is why I had sex and didn't worry about it. You feel used. And especially I would say
00:52:40.840
if you're not a sex worker and you're, you just, a man does that and never calls you back
00:52:44.760
and you don't even have money to show for it. I think it diminishes your, your self-worth
00:52:51.740
The reason why I say sex is just sex is because in our line of work, we see it as transactional,
00:52:58.140
right? Especially when we're working. And then at the end of the day, they go home to their
00:53:02.640
wives or whatever. Right. And it's like emotionally, you're emotionally being there for them and
00:53:09.480
taking care of them and doing all this, that or the other. So then sex clearly isn't just
00:53:13.620
sex. It's also emotional. It can be. Yeah, it can be. Yes. But I was saying, according to
00:53:20.100
the guy that he had on the last podcast, he said that for men, um, sex is just sex and
00:53:25.760
that I kind of, sorry, I disagree with the idea that sex doesn't harm or casual sex wouldn't
00:53:31.760
harm a man or does harm women or that sex is just sex. I think a lot of people tell themselves
00:53:35.920
that, but I think it can like lead to a lifestyle of just like pure hedonism, whether you're
00:53:40.760
like a man or a woman. And that can be like dangerous because then you're losing, you know,
00:53:45.120
sight of other things that you value or other aspects of life. So I don't really think like
00:53:49.260
for, I think for some people that can be true, but I think for the majority of people, like
00:53:53.640
there's a reason why a lot of people are only into monogamy or why that's been like the
00:53:57.260
norm for a lot of cultures. And I think most people are a little bit hardwired to kind of
00:54:01.600
seek out those intimate relationships. And I'm not saying it's impossible. I'm like, I'm
00:54:05.320
just saying, I think that's how most people are where casual sex can be. Yeah. And I
00:54:09.100
think it can definitely be harmful for men. I want to be clear. I I'm saying that it's
00:54:12.860
different for men and it's different for women, but I don't agree with the statement
00:54:15.840
sex is sex. It's just sex at all. And it's natural to be like attracted to a lot of different
00:54:22.240
people. You know what I mean? So it's like, but that comes with self-control. I think
00:54:27.960
attraction is one thing and acting on those needs or wants by sleeping with multiple people
00:54:45.420
I mean, I don't necessarily agree with the idea that sex is just sex. When I was younger,
00:54:49.820
I definitely had a lot more, you know, like casual sexual relationships, not one night
00:54:54.200
stands or anything by that measure, more like situationship. And as I got older, you know,
00:54:59.860
my views on it kind of changed and, you know, you do feel differently when, like you were
00:55:03.500
saying, it doesn't feel good to hook up with somebody and not have them call you back.
00:55:06.560
So I actually was celibate for about two years before I met my partner, doing OnlyFans and
00:55:13.400
I wasn't sleeping with anybody. I like stuck to it very hard because I just didn't really
00:55:18.080
like the feeling of sleeping with somebody and then getting an emotional attachment to
00:55:21.560
them. So I, I think that certain people, because everybody is different, I don't think that
00:55:27.160
it's that black and white. Um, but I think to some people and to some women and to some
00:55:31.700
men, casual sex really is just sex, whether they're leaving DNA or not. I think that there
00:55:35.820
are people that do actually feel that way. Cause I've met women that are like that, but
00:55:39.920
for me, it is not that simple. And I don't think that it's that simple for most women.
00:55:44.280
Can I raise a possibility just because it's something that I've sort of seen? Um, so I
00:55:52.780
do think it's possible that for some people, sex may be detached from romantic emotions with
00:56:00.120
that person. But I do think there may always still be an underlining part, an underlining
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psychological part there of at least an ego boost, at least some sort of like grab for
00:56:12.280
validation, some sort of grab for emotional intimacy. Even if you're telling yourself,
00:56:19.160
I'm just doing this because having casual sex is empowering and sex is just sex. I think
00:56:25.520
even in most of the cases where that's where people genuinely believe they're just having
00:56:28.820
sex because it's sex. If they ask themselves a little further, why am I really doing this?
00:56:35.660
Is it just for, is it perhaps just, you know, to placate my ego or for some sort of male validation
00:56:40.720
or for some sort of like intimacy or connection? Cause I, maybe I'm not getting it romantically
00:56:45.600
otherwise. Um, and more in a more like serious relationship. I am, um, I would also press for
00:56:53.400
that as a possibility, even in those cases of people who genuinely do think for themselves
00:56:59.600
Well, I mean, I guess we can look to the people that do it professionally. I mean,
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do you feel that there's some underlying male validation in your work or no?
00:57:06.380
I find it very meaningful. I find it meaningful when couples come in and they want to work
00:57:11.260
on something, they're working on a goal. Maybe he's got a mental block and we're working on that.
00:57:16.460
Um, the gentleman that comes in, that's having issues with erectile dysfunction and he's trying
00:57:21.420
to troubleshoot that and we, and we actually create success for him. Um, it's, it's meaningful to me.
00:57:28.300
Wait, just one point of clarification. So you're, you're a sex therapist?
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As, as sex workers, we're basically sex. I mean, I, I don't have a counseling degree. I have,
00:57:38.380
I have a master's degree in education. We have an article. You recently kind of went viral. Uh,
00:57:43.420
Nick, can you pull up the article? Like I, New York post, um, uh, New York post. I'm a sex therapist.
00:57:53.020
I sleep with clients to save marriages. They went crazy. Did you, you reacted to this?
00:58:01.660
I almost did, but I'm here. You're here now. Uh, can you, can you pull up the article really quick?
00:58:07.420
Yeah. One more. Uh, sex therapist, Olivia Bentley, wait, wait, takes a hands-on approach with her
00:58:15.660
clients by sleeping with them. I've saved marriages. The Boise, Idaho native told Kennedy news, calling her
00:58:21.740
life, her work life-changing. I get physically involved with the majority of the people I see.
00:58:25.820
I think that's part of the appeal. The veteran sex worker who spent 15 years in the industry
00:58:29.420
claims that women have asked her to demonstrate sex acts on their husbands while some wives grant
00:58:34.300
their eager hubbies a hall pass to pay Bentley a visit. Um, good times. Yeah. Is that pretty accurate?
00:58:43.180
I mean, so you, so you save marriages by having sex with the husband? Well, I think the, the tabloids
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went a little crazy with the whole, you know, but New York post is known to, uh, yeah. Okay. Uh, they
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really, you know, went wild with it, but, um, I do help a lot of couples that come in. Um, one right now
00:59:03.660
is asking me to, to lend a hand and he's more of a beta and she'd like him to be more of an alpha. And she
00:59:10.300
wants me to work with him on, on being more just outwardly in control and aggressive in the bedroom,
00:59:16.540
things like that. Um, there's, there's a lot of different psychological needs and reasons why
00:59:22.220
people would want to come and work with professional sex worker. Sure. Uh, Candace,
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it sounded like, seemed like maybe you had something. I think it's the most outrageous thing I've ever heard.
00:59:31.740
It, it, it, it's so in the realm of like dragons and mystic, mythical creatures that it's, mythological
00:59:41.260
creatures that it's, it's hard to respond to the idea that she's saving marriages. Um, it's just,
00:59:48.620
there. You're in disbelief. I'm actually in utter disbelief that she is saving marriages. Here's another
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example. Sure. So like, and this has been, there's multiple, um, clients that do this where the wife
01:00:02.220
will not have sex anymore. She went and said, look, I, um, you know, during the, when they were
01:00:08.060
courting each other, she was down for sex. She was a sexual person. She was all about it. Then let's
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fast forward. They're married. We're married now contract solidified. I don't want to have sex anymore.
01:00:19.900
Ew. Oral sex is gross. Oh, that's demeaning if you're asking me to do that. So you're not saving
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marriages. You're helping people to keep up a farce that they are in a marriage. Because at the
01:00:30.060
very moment that you let someone else into your marriage, it's no longer a marriage. No. Yeah.
01:00:33.580
And these women have turned around and said, I will allow you to see a professional. So they are not
01:00:39.660
in a marriage. That's the point. As soon as you lend your spouse out. Some of their wives are like dying
01:00:44.300
from cancer and this, that, and the other. If I'm dying from cancer and my husband goes to sleep
01:00:49.740
with somebody else, it's sort of gone. Hold on. Just one at a time, please. Um,
01:00:56.220
Candace, were you, I just would like to make the point that at the very moment that you loan your
01:01:00.860
spouse out, especially if you're dying of cancer so they can get, you know, get off, you're no longer
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in a marriage. So it's just a farce. It's like when you, it's a comical, you're pretending for people
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that you're in a marriage, that you're in a loving relationship. That's not what a marriage is.
01:01:14.060
So to say that I help marriages, no, you help destroy marriages and they can go out and say
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that we're still married because what we've done is we've essentially said, you take care of this
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aspect of the marriage. It's like saying you raise the kids, you have sex with him. This isn't a
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marriage. It's the whole thing is fake, right? What do you think that they should do?
01:01:31.740
I'll bring you in next. What do you think that they, they should work on their marriage together.
01:01:35.900
The union between a husband and a wife should work on their marriage together to fix it. You don't
01:01:40.140
bring out an outside person to sleep with your husband or your wife. But if she's saying,
01:01:43.100
I'm not down for sex and she might be down for a divorce. I want to outsource the sex.
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What if she's going to die from cancer and she wanted him and she allowed him to do that because
01:01:53.260
he needed to get off some way or she, while he was, while she was dying of cancer, one of the last
01:01:57.980
things on her mind was. This is a real life. This is a real life. This is a real life.
01:02:03.500
Uh, yeah, this was a real, I'm asking you. Is that what he told you? Yeah. So his wife
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that's dying of cancer wanted him to come have sex with you? Not with me. One of like, this is
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from what I've heard. Yes. Somebody told you that, that there's that as a dying wish.
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My dying wife said, please go have sex with a prostitute at a brothel. I saw it on TikTok.
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I'm just going to call bullshit on that altogether. No, because it does happen.
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I just don't think when you're dying of cancer, going through leukemia. People will literally
01:02:27.740
bring their guys here. Please bring them on the podcast. I just want to say,
01:02:31.820
go ahead. It's an absurd scenario I've ever heard in my life. There's a lot of crazy
01:02:35.980
shit. There's marriage counseling where they can take you through sex therapy, where you don't
01:02:40.620
have to sleep with somebody else. If it's about a woman not wanting to have sex anymore,
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what's the underlying reason? Are hormones messed up so she's not wanting to be sexually active?
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Is there not enough foreplay when they're having sex? Like there's other avenues you can take for
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sex therapy. Yeah, there's like normal couples counselors. Yeah, real couples counseling, where you try to
01:02:57.580
solve the problem and you release it and you don't just source it out to a prostitute.
01:03:05.340
The cancer thing is crazy. But outside of that, I don't think that it's up to any of us what
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constitutes a marriage because every relationship is different. The Bible. If a husband, okay.
01:03:16.220
His words have meaning. But not everyone is religious. Well, wait, hold on. Is that a cross
01:03:20.540
necklace? It doesn't constitute, like what do you mean? Okay, really quick. Not everybody's religious.
01:03:24.540
We're talking about religion really quick. Okay, you have a cross necklace, but then your shirt says
01:03:29.020
made in hell. Yes, it does. I'm a little confused. I'm a little confused. Can you,
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I'm a little confused. The stone is red, so it matched, you know.
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Why are you wearing a cross on your neck? Are you color coordinating with your neck?
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Because I don't see a cross as religious, so. Okay. I feel like you don't see a marriage as
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religious. I don't think that a marriage has a meaning. This is why it's like people are out of
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stage. People are like, what is a woman? Because they just go, well, we're going to call it a marriage,
01:03:51.820
but we're going to sleep with other people. We're going to bring in prostitutes. We're going to
01:03:54.460
outsource raising the kids, or we're never going to have kids. You're calling it a family. It's not
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a family. And this is what it is. They just, the words have no meaning, right? I'm wearing the cross.
01:04:02.060
Why? I don't know. I don't, I don't think of it as religious. Okay. Well, Jesus Christ died on the
01:04:05.660
cross. You think that. That's what you think. It's been proven. So why are you wearing the cross?
01:04:10.220
Because I think it's cute. Because I think it's cute. You just think that the design is cute.
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Yeah. Wait, wait, wait, really quick. I grew up like I was religious and I'm not anymore. I don't
01:04:17.180
have to believe in what you believe. And I can say that if somebody. I didn't say you had to leave.
01:04:20.700
I asked you a question. I said, why are you wearing the cross? Okay. And you're saying that the
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religious aspect of marriage is the only thing that matters. It's not because people don't follow
01:04:28.220
what you believe. Okay. I asked you why you're wearing the cross and you said because you thought it
01:04:31.740
was cute. Yeah. I'm glad we got an answer. She's wearing the cross around her neck because she thinks it's cute.
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I do. I'm not religious. Would you also wear like a Star of David? It's cute.
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Well, because if it was cute, would you wear it? Well, okay. Well, I don't know where we're going.
01:04:44.140
I'm asking that because I wonder, like, my guess is that you would think that maybe you wouldn't
01:04:49.020
wear a Star of David because you're like, oh, this is maybe like disrespectful to people who are Jewish.
01:04:52.940
Are you making the argument? Maybe, I mean. No, I'm just. It's a very good question.
01:04:57.740
I'm just saying. Devil's advocate here. Secular argument. Someone might just say that the cross is just,
01:05:03.420
maybe it's more aesthetically pleasing even for an atheist. I don't know. Sure, but livers are all
01:05:09.500
about like having respect and tolerance. So I'm just like wondering if you think it's. I'm asking if
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you wear a yarmulke. I think those are very different things. Oh, are you talking like blasphemy?
01:05:17.260
Why is the cross different from the yarmulke? I'm just, I mean, I was raised Catholic and I,
01:05:21.100
that's just not the thing that I believe anymore. Would you wear a yarmulke if you thought it was cute?
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No, I wouldn't. I mean, a yarmulke is completely different than a cross that's been adapted.
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You can buy a cross necklace anywhere. The argument of why it's different basically would come down to
01:05:34.140
like how Catholicism has been practiced versus Judaism in the sense that like Catholics did
01:05:38.300
use the cross symbol, tried to place like an indigenous populations, tried to spread it as
01:05:42.460
much as possible. And that's why in modern day, a lot of people think that's like more okay because
01:05:47.340
it was meant to be popularized. It was meant to be a symbol that the masses should look up to and
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should see in general versus Jewish symbols. Okay. I would argue didn't go through that.
01:05:57.740
I think we're kind of derailing a little bit. Yeah. You wanted to come in and go ahead.
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Yes. So back to the interesting brothel stories. I wanted to say, uh, we do actually have men
01:06:06.860
coming in with their parents. Yeah. This actually happens. So I had a time where
01:06:15.420
a guy came in with both his parents all the way from England to come to the Mustang ranch because he
01:06:22.780
wanted to lose his virginity and his parents paid for him to have sex with legal prostitutes.
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I want your stance on that because what's your stance on that?
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And if I may, and wait, now, can I just say that for me, I enjoyed the experience sex workers,
01:06:47.420
not prostitutes. Yeah. Wait, I'm sorry. She said prostitute. Yeah. It's because they keep,
01:06:52.700
yeah, prostitutes a little bit more question. Is it like a, well, she said that she said legal
01:07:00.140
prostitute is prop. I don't want to offend anybody. Is prostituted like a, it's old school. It's still on
01:07:05.500
the books, like on Nevada's books, but like the, the hipper, the hipper way to say it is sex worker.
01:07:12.220
But here's the thing with sex workers. Personally, that can me, you can call me a legal prostitute.
01:07:17.740
Yeah. I got you. Um, but the, the thing with the term sex worker is that is such a broad,
01:07:25.100
it includes strippers. It includes women who take, uh, lingerie photos who aren't naked. Um, wait,
01:07:31.740
question. Stewart is stewardess. Okay. Cause you're a flight attendant. So I'm just curious.
01:07:36.060
It's not the term that we would be offended. If someone referred to you as a stewardess,
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you get any older, older people do all the time. Doesn't, doesn't bother you. No. Okay. All right.
01:07:44.620
Just curious. Just want to make sure since we're, yeah. Okay. It's not a big deal. Earlier. It was
01:07:49.580
like talked about like how, you know, sleeping or letting your husband or wife sleep with someone
01:07:54.140
else is like irresponsible or it's not a marriage anymore. Like I'd be kind of curious of what you believe
01:07:58.940
of responsible marriage is like, or I understand that you have a religious view on marriage,
01:08:03.500
but when I think about marriage, I think like I could see somebody saying they're married. If
01:08:07.980
it's like completely romantic, like you're not allowed to do romance with anyone else.
01:08:11.900
Like basically what does responsible marriage mean to you? Marriage is not just a contract. Like
01:08:16.860
it wasn't just like the government came up with the contract people to get married. You know,
01:08:20.140
the history of marriage, you can't separate that from the church. The problem is people are trying to
01:08:24.540
make things cool and trying to update and make them modern. And now people are saying you can have a
01:08:28.620
polygamous marriage and you can bring in other people on the outside of a marriage. What's the
01:08:32.300
point of getting married? Literally, I'd like to ask the question. If you think that you can,
01:08:37.020
if you want to marry somebody and then outsource the sex, you know, outsource the responsibility,
01:08:43.340
outsource what the labor of love is actually supposed to be about. Why not just stay single?
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So you wouldn't do a threesome with your husband? Absolutely not. Because he's my husband.
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Do you believe you have to ask that to get the answer? I mean, there's married couples that want to have
01:08:58.460
threesome and some of these ladies are bi-curious. And you should jump into those
01:09:02.140
Reddit threads because every single time that marriage ends in divorce, there's so many Reddit
01:09:06.380
threads. No, they don't. And a lot of them actually do really well too. I have regulars of over five
01:09:10.460
years. Okay. There's some that do really well. Do you believe atheists can get married? I think
01:09:15.260
atheists get married because they want a tax break. I don't see the point in an atheist getting married.
01:09:19.500
Why don't you just live with your partner? Okay. Whatever it is that you're dating,
01:09:22.860
you're at the stage you said, I don't know if you live with your boyfriend or whatever it is.
01:09:25.980
Why take the next leap? If you're wearing crosses for fun and, you know,
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I mean, if you're actually asking the question, I mean, because then I would just be pledging the
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fact that I would want to be with them forever. I don't really, you can just be with them forever.
01:09:38.300
So why, what is it that you crave that when you, when you want to get married, what's that next step
01:09:42.220
for you? What does it mean? What's the difference between dating and marriage? Because it's a commitment.
01:09:45.660
It's dating, not a commitment. It's a commitment, but it's saying it's solidifying it. Okay.
01:09:50.700
It's solidifying what? Because it's solidifying a bond between two people that love each other.
01:09:53.980
Okay. But what is solidified? If you can then jump into that next commitment,
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which is the exact same as dating and you can sleep with other people and you can put topless
01:10:02.220
photos on the internet, what are you getting married for? Pictures on Instagram to say you did
01:10:06.300
it? I mean, I'm not sleeping with other people. What's the difference for you between dating and
01:10:10.380
marriage? I just told you it's a bond between two people. You're solidifying that by law.
01:10:13.980
You're literally making it known. I want to be with this person forever. It isn't just a simple
01:10:17.500
breakup. Oh, I can go and do whatever the fuck I want and leave. It's a partnership. It's a bond.
01:10:21.340
It's forever. But there's no difference between dating and marriage other than the idea in your
01:10:25.580
head that it's a bond because you're saying also- But it's not an idea in my head. It's on paper.
01:10:29.660
Okay. It's the paper. And that was the point I would make it. It's a piece of paper.
01:10:32.060
But I'm saying it's not a tax break. It's a legal thing. I'm connecting to somebody for the rest of
01:10:36.300
my life. Yeah. Well, I think for people that think about marriage and don't think about a cross as
01:10:41.100
something funsy to wear, it's not a piece of paper. It is a union between a man and a woman,
01:10:47.980
a sacred union that should be protected from external forces. Definitely not something that
01:10:52.860
you open up. I would feel disgusting if my husband ever came to me and said,
01:10:57.260
I want you to sleep with another man or sleep with another woman so that I can fill my sexual
01:11:02.300
fetish. I mean, it's an utter perversion of what it means to be married. And it will lead to divorces.
01:11:09.260
People that have this perspective will, and I'm not saying that if you don't do it, you won't get
01:11:13.500
divorced 100%. But I do want to say that there is probably a reason that a lot of sex workers
01:11:22.380
struggle to find people that want to marry them. Well, can I say a lot of the perversion that comes
01:11:27.980
if you are not going to be acceptant with your partner, if he comes to you and is like, hey,
01:11:32.780
uh, I really like getting pegged. I want you to peg me. And you're like, ew, that's so disgusting.
01:11:38.940
Like, I would never do that. You want me to eat your ass? I would never do that. Well then,
01:11:44.620
okay, what are you going to do? Divorce him? Or what are you going to do? Realistically,
01:11:48.620
I'm asking you and I'm asking, hold on. I really want to, I want to know, what are you going to do?
01:11:53.100
That's your husband. He's like, hey babe. I think one of the things about marriage
01:11:56.380
that's really beautiful is I know what my, my husband before we got married, I think I, I know
01:12:01.580
who he is. But things change and maybe he wants to start exploring. He wants to start doing what?
01:12:05.420
Uh, so say, so he wants to start exploring and he's like, oh my gosh, maybe I do want you to like
01:12:10.380
eat, eat my ass. And I kind of, and I kind of want you to peg me. Like I'm kind of,
01:12:15.660
I kind of want anal penetration from you because you're my wife and you're so beautiful and hot
01:12:20.460
and we're married and we have kids together and I'm, and I'm feeling a little bit kinky. And I,
01:12:24.460
with you, since we have this special marriage and bond, how would you feel if we could just try this
01:12:29.660
out? Just this one time, babe, please. I think it would probably indicate to me that my husband
01:12:33.660
was involved in some perverse world, whether it was through pornography, that something else was
01:12:38.620
happening on the side, because these aren't normal things that people just think of when they wake
01:12:42.300
up. So what's your next move? Like, hey, I'd really like a strap on dildo. Okay. Right.
01:12:45.180
So what's your next move? What's the ultimatum? He's going to divorce me if I don't peg him.
01:12:50.700
Uh, I would think that that individual would probably need therapy and not the kind that you give.
01:12:55.900
Okay. And, but, but you're going to stay with this person? You don't, you don't immediately
01:12:59.980
divorce. Okay. Marriage is about working through issues and working through problems. You don't
01:13:04.060
immediately divorce them. And this gets back to what she was saying about if your husband, if
01:13:07.900
suddenly a woman doesn't want to have sex, which would be another huge issue in a relationship,
01:13:11.660
I would hope that my husband wouldn't instantly divorce me, but I would hope that they would take
01:13:15.260
Well, some guys are terrified of that. And some guys don't even feel like they can open up to their
01:13:19.180
wives about that, about that. Sounds like they need therapy. Yeah. You got to work on your marriage.
01:13:25.100
But the thing is, is that they'll come to us talking to us about that. You know what I mean?
01:13:30.300
So it's just like, I don't know. And I think that that's unhealthy. And I think that, you know,
01:13:34.540
the fact that sex workers exist as this, what you believe to be a solution when in fact that's a
01:13:40.780
detriment because you're getting in the way of the wife and the husband being able to communicate.
01:13:44.700
Um, and so I would much rather my husband go, if there was an issue and your wife's not having
01:13:49.980
sex, I'd rather him go talk to a priest. I'd rather him go talk to another male when males sit down and
01:13:54.940
talk about, Hey man, you should talk to her about this. I'd rather him, no, let me finish my statement.
01:13:59.420
I'd rather him, what do you mean bros talking to each other about things? That's a normal,
01:14:03.420
I'd rather if I have an issue of my, it's pretty normal. I'd rather go talk to my sisters about
01:14:07.980
things that are going on. There's a lot of steps you can take before you talk to a prostitute
01:14:12.460
about your marriage. I just, maybe I'm crazy. Maybe I live in such a crazy.
01:14:15.260
Well, I'm saying what man is willing to do that?
01:14:16.940
I don't know. I turn on a Taylor Swift song, cry a little bit in my room. I don't know. There's a
01:14:21.980
lot. I would turn to Taylor Swift before I would go to a prostitute about my marriage.
01:14:26.060
I know, but you're not a male. So I'm just saying like,
01:14:27.980
Men can talk to other, what are you talking about? There's all of these podcasts of men talking,
01:14:33.020
you know, talking to men and being inspirational and talking about porn addiction and talking about the
01:14:37.420
things that are, are, are corrupting men's minds that's out there.
01:14:40.700
Okay. And those are, those are, I would much rather my husband listen to those men
01:14:44.460
and look for guidance, whether it's in the church, whether it's on a podcast,
01:14:47.900
whether it's a spiritual leader, then to turn to a prostitute in a brothel.
01:14:51.660
So there's a lot of steps that you can take from we're having an issue in our marriage
01:14:56.540
to my husband's at a brothel laying next to a prostitute talking about issues in my marriage.
01:15:00.140
Actually, let me, let me just step in really quick. I do think though, I would like to redirect
01:15:04.940
the conversation because I do think it's probably a very small portion of people who are married
01:15:11.020
are seeking to bring in a prostitute to, for the husband. It just seems like such a small
01:15:20.300
kind of, I don't know. What's that really quick?
01:15:22.220
Uh, statistically married men are actually the highest number of clientele for prostitutes.
01:15:26.460
Yes. And that's why I'm saying, please listen for me. I'm literally telling you guys,
01:15:31.420
males come to us and say all this stuff, which is like, they're first scared of you guys because
01:15:36.780
how you might react to, they feel like they can't be honest and open with you guys. That's why they
01:15:43.420
Just so you guys know that statistic doesn't mean that the majority of married men go to
01:15:47.740
No, I know. I'm just letting her know because she said like, yes, like it was, if it was a debunk.
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The majority of married men don't turn to prostitutes. So they might be a law contingent
01:16:00.060
I think that's a good reason to have, um, I guess to, on that point of like,
01:16:05.500
something was brought up earlier about like, what is like a responsible marriage to you? So part of
01:16:09.660
being a good partner as like a wife or a girlfriend to whoever you're with is making them feel
01:16:16.140
comfortable telling you anything, especially if it's something that they think is serious enough to
01:16:20.940
consider leaving like their relationship with you for, like if it's serious enough that they
01:16:26.300
would consider divorcing you, if they can't explore the sexual fantasy or anything like that.
01:16:30.300
I think that's just a part of being good on the, um, I, I, I agree with what you're saying here,
01:16:36.140
that they, um, that these men don't feel comfortable that they could tell their wives.
01:16:41.180
And I guess that's just a part of being, not that it's justifiable that you as a wife,
01:16:46.140
you should give in to any sexual fetish your partner brings to you.
01:16:50.220
It's whatever you're comfortable with and wherever your boundaries are.
01:16:52.620
But, um, I guess that's a part of that continuous conversation with them so that they always feel
01:16:57.260
comfortable bringing up anything to you as a friend, as like a confidant and knowing they're
01:17:01.820
not going to be judged, but that they'll be a partner with you in favor.
01:17:19.500
First of all, we, I have beef with beaten cheeks because he asked me on a date and then posted
01:17:28.780
I mean, he asked you on a date and you guys are committed to, you're committed to beaten
01:17:35.900
So he's posting photos with another woman right after asking me out.
01:17:41.420
Commit this act of infidelity on Essie over here, who you've never met yet.
01:17:48.700
She encourages single ladies to have fun, supports promiscuous behavior in her music and perpetuates
01:17:55.260
And when she's done recording, she goes home to her husband and her children who, by the
01:18:06.700
We have Canada, the Jay Candace, the honey badger queen.
01:18:14.060
Uh, thank you for your voice and being on this wacky space is a cultural battlefield that
01:18:18.540
somehow pushes beyond ideal ideological bubbles.
01:18:22.060
When are Jeremy and Ben going to make Brian an offer?
01:18:39.420
Hopefully I can come on once I'm back from Kuwait.
01:18:43.100
When I felt odd having conversation, I felt odd having conservative behaviors.
01:18:48.300
Your bravery has helped countless people become comfortable with being conservative.
01:18:55.980
People in this day and time are exceedingly haughty and refuse to pursue the abolition
01:19:00.460
or even suppression of ego in their everyday lives.
01:19:03.100
People appeal to, uh, people appeal their own wants, needs, opinions, ideas, et cetera,
01:19:08.060
above all else, instead of appealing to something greater from travel trades.
01:19:13.100
And then lastly, we have society, I, that's probably not, I don't know.
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Panel, please listen to everything that Candace says.
01:19:21.660
You have a rare opportunity to see what a high value woman is and learn from her as she's intelligent,
01:19:29.660
You can't justify and make excuses for your lifestyles.
01:19:45.260
These, being in this industry, you don't run out of opportunities.
01:19:52.860
If I wanted to settle down with one of them, I think, I think that could have happened.
01:19:58.140
Wait, when you say men are coming to you all the time as clients, right?
01:20:02.140
And you said if you wanted to settle down with any of them, you could, but do you find the men
01:20:11.500
Because I mean, I've heard from a lot of women who do OnlyFans or even women who are exotic
01:20:16.620
dancers, strippers, whatever, and women who do porn or even adult content, that the men
01:20:22.220
that typically like are the fans or consume the content or come and see you, your clients,
01:20:28.380
a lot of these women don't view these men like just by virtue of them coming to you or by virtue
01:20:34.060
of them subscribing to your OF, like that in and of itself makes them not a prospect for
01:20:41.900
No, these are normal guys and some of them are hot.
01:20:47.500
I figured I was going to age out of the industry.
01:20:55.260
So I'm getting a ton of I'm getting a lot of young'uns coming, the young'uns, young'uns,
01:21:07.260
And, and then, you know, fitness competitors, judges that, that judge in the circuits.
01:21:13.340
And then they'll say, Hey, I, you know, you're looking good or tighten this up.
01:21:17.900
So there's a lot of opportunities to meet a lot of individuals now to meet them though.
01:21:22.860
But I mean, when it comes to them and when it comes to long-term commitment, I mean,
01:21:30.300
What I, what I encounter, um, and something what Candace said is these guys, they are prideful.
01:21:36.060
So once they start dating you, they do, in my experience, they do want you to maybe consider
01:21:44.780
I was vice president of business growth at an active, um, wealth management company during
01:21:59.260
So I, I come in and out, I'll go into white colored work and then I'll go back into the
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I enjoy it and, and it is good money and it's an adventure.
01:22:08.620
I enjoy going out with these guys and being a travel companion and getting to go on vacations.
01:22:13.980
No, I just wanted to ask you as a, the man sitting at this table, are you attracted to
01:22:22.620
Do you think men are attracted to their lifestyles?
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Uh, I'm just curious about your opinion, just to hear a male.
01:22:35.180
I don't care for what an other male has to say about my industry though.
01:22:39.100
But he's been asking you questions about what you think about men.
01:22:44.380
And the first thing, when I ask one question to him, you say, I don't care.
01:22:52.700
Like when he asked you a question, what if someone said, I don't care what she says?
01:22:57.020
I'm saying like, because everybody's always out here.
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I see your faces that you're giving her and stuff like that.
01:23:02.220
No, I just, I'm saying like, I'm letting her talk, but I just wanted to hear his opinion
01:23:06.140
So I just, was that like a little bit of insecurity to just jump and say, I don't
01:23:16.060
We've all been letting people talk with different perspectives.
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So I just thought it was like, suddenly he hasn't even said anything and you've already
01:23:27.020
I just want to hear like, we've been all talking about our opinions.
01:23:30.780
I'm trying to let Brian continue and you're, you're still talking.
01:23:34.460
A little bit of insecurity coming out over there.
01:23:36.300
I'm not sure where it's coming from, but go on.
01:23:46.220
Can you just repeat the question one more time?
01:23:47.900
I was just saying like, it's interesting because we're all women and we're giving different
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perspectives and the female perspective on this topic.
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When you hear what she just said about sex work and how she feels about sex work, or you
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hear what she's saying, or you hear what she's saying, what is your honest opinion as a man?
01:24:06.380
Because what we're trying to get to, I think the nucleus of is, you know, high value women,
01:24:12.620
high value men, what creates that, how men respond to that.
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I mean, I personally would not date a woman who is involved in sex work in any of its various
01:24:27.180
Just, I mean, it's kind of, there's, I, I'm not really like a hater if people want to
01:24:35.260
do that sort of thing when on a societal level, I don't know if it's, you know, the best thing,
01:24:41.020
but I'm kind of like, hey, whatever, go do your thing. But as far as my own personal preferences,
01:24:48.060
standards and boundaries, when it comes to a relationship, I don't foresee myself wanting
01:24:53.820
to get involved with someone who does sex work.
01:24:56.540
And why do you think that is? I think most men would agree with you. I think, and I think that
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makes sense to me, but why is that? Because I think it's just interesting to hear a male perspective,
01:25:06.940
that's all. Sure. I mean, well, kind of going back to there being different levels to it.
01:25:13.740
So, I mean, if she's a prostitute or was a prostitute, I mean, it's kind of, I feel like
01:25:20.460
that's just common sense. Like, I wouldn't, no offense, I just wouldn't date a woman who's a
01:25:27.020
prostitute. I'm not offended, like I said. And probably they wouldn't want to date me. I don't
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know. It's fine. It's cool. But yeah, I wouldn't, I know if you're, because I would want monogamy,
01:25:37.340
I'd want loyalty. And even though it's for work, and they're just doing it for money,
01:25:43.820
my view of sex is not, I don't think you can, well, people do, but I don't think you ought to detach
01:25:50.780
intimacy from sex. And people who engage in a lot of casual sex or people who do it for work,
01:25:55.660
you've essentially just detached intimacy from sex. So, um, definitely not a prostitute.
01:26:03.260
Um, I mean, not a stripper, not a OnlyFans. No. I feel like that was just like an unnecessarily
01:26:10.140
long way to answer. Like, no, no dude's going to want to date a hooker. I don't know. It's like,
01:26:14.060
I don't think it's like that. Yeah. And I said, I don't care because it's like, and you're like,
01:26:19.100
no, don't take offense. Like, I'm not going to take offense to something I don't care about.
01:26:22.460
That's why I'm like, no, it's just the preempt. And you stated, you were like, and you looked at
01:26:26.380
me and you said, and don't take offense. Like, baby, I'm not offended by any means.
01:26:31.340
You know what I mean? Okay. Okay. I'm not looking for, I'm not, I'm not trying to offend you.
01:26:37.180
She was just asking me. Yeah. I literally was just asking a question. No, I know. Yeah. Yeah.
01:26:40.700
Yeah. Earlier it was like talked about like promiscuity. Like I'm assuming you guys believe
01:26:44.940
like promiscuity is like bad or shouldn't be encouraged in society. I was wondering if what specific
01:26:49.900
factors do you think encourage it most? Do you believe it's like media? Do you think like birth
01:26:53.500
control has anything to do with it? Do you believe like, I want to know what your top factors
01:26:58.620
of promiscuity are and what you believe it is? Yeah. So I would say number one contributor is,
01:27:03.420
is culture and the education system. So I remember when I was left leaning, a lot of my ideas came
01:27:08.700
from the school system and just what you're talking about, Planned Parenthood in the classroom,
01:27:12.380
that effort began in the seventies. The majority of high schoolers were graduating with their
01:27:16.220
virginity intact in the seventies before they started, um, teaching health class,
01:27:21.020
which was teaching people that everybody's doing it. And actually they weren't. And within
01:27:25.100
one decade, it completely flipped. And the majority of teens were now graduating, having lost their
01:27:29.740
virginity. Um, so we ceded a lot of that to the education system, which when, when parents had more
01:27:36.460
control over their children, what was happening in the classroom was based on arithmetic and not cultural
01:27:40.460
issues and focusing on engineering children to think that sex is this positive.
01:27:45.180
Um, it, you know, it's, you just do it. Everybody's doing it. It doesn't matter if you have multiple
01:27:48.620
partners, you combine that with feminism in the classroom. I, I was forced in college to take
01:27:53.100
a feminism 101 course and they kind of made you think that, yeah.
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Beat in cheeks donated $200. Candace, please tell these women their past promiscuous matters to
01:28:04.940
be with a decent guy that will not be beta males. SC, that was just a friend. We still on relax.
01:28:11.980
Just to answer my text and we good, I promise equals D.
01:28:16.380
All right. Thank you. Um, was there a question here for Candace or
01:28:22.300
wait, can I, do you mind if I push back a little bit on the education system comment? Sure. Okay.
01:28:27.500
Cause at least from the things that I've read and that I've studied, it seems like that is true,
01:28:31.900
but in a very particular context and that very particular context was like basically abstinence
01:28:37.500
only education, which I don't know about you guys, but makes complete sense to me because if you tell
01:28:41.980
teenagers like, don't do this thing, this thing is like super, you know, like don't do it. Um,
01:28:46.940
it feels super good, but you're not supposed to do it or whatever. If you phrase it that way,
01:28:50.700
then teenagers are going to go out and do it. Cause like at least everything that I've seen
01:28:54.140
recently has been talking about how, um, if you talk about proper sex ed and people who have more
01:28:59.420
access to contraceptives as well, as well as better sex ed tend to have like a lower body count than people
01:29:04.620
who are like in like lower education, less sex ed, less access to contraception. So I was just
01:29:09.340
wondering like your thoughts on that. I'm just, I'm telling you it's not true factually in the 70s
01:29:14.060
before they got Planned Parenthood went in the classroom and started funding initiatives. Um,
01:29:17.980
and they started teaching sex education. They used to know, they used to not be sex education in school
01:29:22.700
and the way that they got it into the classroom in the 70s was by saying, you know, it's better to teach
01:29:27.420
them, which is what you're saying, because then they'll be more responsible. It actually, within one decade,
01:29:31.500
it flipped. The majority of high schoolers were graduating with their virginity before there was
01:29:35.180
sex education. And then when they put sex education in the classroom, the majority of them within 10
01:29:39.660
years were, were not graduating with their virginity. So it actually sexualized children.
01:29:43.820
Yeah. My understanding, but the reason why was because the first manifestations of sex education
01:29:49.500
was abstinence only. And it was working is what I'm saying to you. Oh, yeah, it was working. So they,
01:29:54.460
abstinence, it used to be, you know, considered and I'm not at all trying to, I'm just telling you what the facts are here.
01:29:59.580
Um, like when people, when abstinence was the cultural simulation, when everyone said you
01:30:04.940
should be abstinent, you should not get, you should not have sex before marriage. That idea
01:30:09.420
was permeated throughout culture. It was reflected in culture. There were no sex ads. There weren't
01:30:13.180
people naked on the internet and people lived their lives. It was considered a big thing, you know,
01:30:18.780
to lose your virginity. You were actually considered someone that maybe a guy wouldn't want to marry
01:30:21.980
because you lost your virginity. That was, that was the cultural understanding, like, you know,
01:30:25.660
in the fifties and the sixties. And then in the seventies, you had this fourth wave of feminism
01:30:30.140
that reared its ugly head and started associating sexual promiscuity to freedom and things completely
01:30:35.900
flipped. Again, I'm just giving you a historical analysis of what happened in the classroom.
01:30:39.740
Yeah, I'd be interested. Without commentary. Yeah, it's okay if you, sorry, I'll just finish.
01:30:43.900
Make it quick if you can. Yeah, I'd be interested to see, like, where exactly you're getting that from.
01:30:48.140
If, like, later you can tell me or whatever. Thomas Sowell inside the education system.
01:30:51.820
Okay. And he has all of the sources listed in the back of the book. Okay. Because
01:30:55.580
at least in modern day, do you think that any of that has flipped or no? No, I think we've become,
01:31:00.380
you know, there was, to use a term, I was, I was actually talking about this yesterday on a podcast.
01:31:03.900
I thought it was pretty brilliant, but Paul Joseph Watson, I love his YouTube stuff. And he started
01:31:07.820
talking about hoflation. That is, that's a thing. Actually hilarious, which he's saying that men
01:31:14.380
used to have to do a lot less and get a very high value women. He's like, so think about your
01:31:18.620
grandparents and your grandmother. She was a high value woman. She, you know, she raised the kids.
01:31:24.300
She was conservative. She was beautiful, all of these things. And now we live in this moment where
01:31:28.780
everyone's kind of a hoe and you have to work harder to get a woman that doesn't have any self
01:31:32.860
respect or any value. And I just thought it was really interesting video. It was obviously funny,
01:31:37.100
but he was saying something and we live in, we live in hoflation now where everybody in their own
01:31:41.820
capacity is selling their, selling their bodies. And unfortunately, this, these are the options
01:31:46.780
that men have. No, I'm not saying it's stunning to me that women talk about what men need to be
01:31:51.420
and what men need to be. But I think just kind of the complete disintegration of when I look at,
01:31:56.300
you know, what my grandpa, my grandmother looks like in pictures, she passed in 2013 and just how
01:32:01.500
classy and how beautiful and how much I wanted to be like her. And now I look at, you know, women today
01:32:05.820
and I just think, man, I feel bad for guys, like, you know, that the pool is getting smaller,
01:32:10.460
but also it's really positive for women that are conservative and, you know, who, uh, it means
01:32:15.820
that you're a part of, you know, maybe a smaller pool of individuals. I see it a lot more in the
01:32:19.980
South and that men should aspire to pursue those women. Absolutely. Um, to raise their families
01:32:25.100
and, you know, to raise their kids. Do you, do you cosign on the, the hoflation? Oh yeah,
01:32:29.580
I believe. Yeah. The women I today are very low value. And so it's funny because the simulation is like,
01:32:35.020
men ain't shit is kind of the thing. Everybody's saying don't need a man. And it's funny that
01:32:39.740
someone brought up Beyonce because she's living the exact opposite of what she's singing. She's
01:32:43.180
just making money because she's making, knows how to make money in a hoflationary environment,
01:32:47.580
you know, smart woman. She's like, I'm just going to pretend to be a ho, but then actually privately,
01:32:51.180
I'm going to be like super, like, hold on. Um, you wanted to come in, then you please, if you can,
01:32:57.500
try to keep it brief. Cause I need to get to chat. Oh, I was just going to say that my version of sex
01:33:02.220
educator, my sex education was literally them showing us a birthing photo or a video. Sorry. Yeah. In
01:33:07.980
fourth grade. That terrified me. And I was like, actually, I don't think I'm going to have sex for
01:33:11.260
a long time. I think I'm good. And like, speaking of hoflation, I mean, we're common,
01:33:17.660
we're always trending apparently. Right. Because hoes, because without us hoes,
01:33:24.220
you wouldn't have like that many views to be watching. Right. You have hoes come on the podcast
01:33:30.060
to talk about our, I'm not knocking hoes. I'm saying you have hoes. And when I say you have hoes coming
01:33:36.780
onto the podcast, you, you know, you're a ho. Do you mean a literal ho or like more of a
01:33:41.100
the colloquial? That's Brian's dream. You know what I mean? You have hoes, Brian. So you sit here and
01:33:45.980
you want to bash sex workers, but you know, we come on here. When did I bash anybody? I don't think
01:33:50.460
anybody is bashing. He's bringing you on here and giving you a platform to speak. So I think that
01:33:55.020
if he was going to be bashing you, he wouldn't even allow anybody on. The hero of hoes, if you will.
01:33:59.100
Wait, what do you mean making, making, making what? Making a scene. I'm not making anybody seem
01:34:04.780
any sort of like. No, I'm just talking about a video. We're a trending topic. So it's relevant
01:34:09.420
to speak on. Because it's interesting. It's fascinating. I am fascinated by hoes. I'll say it.
01:34:14.140
I'm absolutely fascinated by the way the whole mind works, the way the whole hive works. I'm
01:34:19.180
fascinated. Next documentary. I cover it on my show. You are correct. It is trending. When Emma gets up
01:34:24.380
and does a video and says something like, you know, I'm, it's chic to be divorced before you're 30. It is
01:34:28.940
absolutely fascinating to see how someone's mind can be so warped, you know, in the same way that
01:34:34.380
I think it's, it's fascinating when anybody does anything crazy or says anything crazy and I cover
01:34:37.980
it on my podcast, you know, I am not knocking it at all. I just tell people what the facts are.
01:34:42.860
You can choose this lifestyle. And here is where you are 99.9% likely to lead into in your life,
01:34:49.260
right? You are probably not destined for marriage. You're not probably not destined for a stable
01:34:53.660
relationship. Men are going to not want this long-term. You can say it a thousand times,
01:34:57.100
you can have a thousand cultural examples and women's still got to go out there and be hoes,
01:35:01.020
you know, because they're about they money and about a Cardi B song or whatever it is. So yes,
01:35:05.740
I think it is fascinating. And it is why I wanted to, you know, this is why I talk about on my podcast
01:35:12.060
and why I'm very interested to talk to you guys. I hope you guys feel that I've been respectful
01:35:15.260
and listening to, you know, your lifestyles, even though it's so different from mine. And so I appreciate
01:35:19.980
Brian for hosting. Well, thank you for coming, Candice. Let's see, I have a couple chats here and then I
01:35:24.700
have one more question. And then I think Candice will have to leave here in a moment. We have
01:35:30.300
Yvonne. Oh, okay. Modern life dating donated $199. Hey, Candice, thank you for being a voice of
01:35:38.940
common sense and a good representation of being a decent woman in today's modern perverse time.
01:35:44.540
What are your thoughts on the passport bro movement of men leaving America for better wives abroad?
01:35:49.980
Hey, John, thank you very much for the TTS. Maybe a brief little snippet on this if you can.
01:35:55.580
Yes. Yeah. I think that you can find higher quality women in other places. Like I married
01:36:01.260
an Englishman. I'm, I think America. Are you a passport, not a bro, but like a passport sis?
01:36:07.980
Passport sis. There you go. Yeah. I think that America has really lowered the cultural standards
01:36:13.900
for women more than any, you don't see this kind of, even the way women dress in America compared to
01:36:18.940
England fascinates me. And so, yeah, I, I think find a wife, do what you gotta do, but also don't discount the
01:36:24.540
South because there are so many good women in the South in America come to Tennessee. They're wonderful.
01:36:31.260
I have heard something kind of interesting on this is that, uh, you have a lot of men in the West,
01:36:37.260
a lot of men in the U S going overseas to try to find perhaps a wife who's a bit more feminine or,
01:36:43.820
you know, whatever they're not finding here in the, in the West, but you don't hear of men
01:36:49.020
from other countries in droves coming to the U S to find a wife here.
01:36:56.300
You don't really hear that. So, um, all right, we have Yvonne, Yvonne St. Simon is Kansas. I know
01:37:03.420
you're listening to these women with a realization that this country is doomed. How will you help your
01:37:07.820
son navigate the swamp before you right now? And if we can just try to be, I moved to the South.
01:37:14.940
As soon as I got pregnant, the first time I moved where my values aligned and my son will be just fine.
01:37:19.580
Perfect. We have a goodest boy. One of them is too young to remember the movie. Pretty woman.
01:37:24.540
Imagine a guy just wanting a better life for the both of you and maybe even a family. Again,
01:37:28.700
the world is effed. Hey, goodest boy. Thank you. Uh, Yvonne Candace. Do you think Lyndon B.
01:37:33.580
Johnson has anything to do with the fact that these women that have an only fans are actually able to
01:37:38.300
find a relationship with a man? I don't know how we correlated Lyndon B. Johnson to the only fans account.
01:37:43.500
LBJ? Yeah. Are you familiar with anything with LBJ? Of course. Okay. Yvonne St. Simonis.
01:37:53.260
Candace, what specific steps will you take to ensure that your daughter does not
01:37:56.940
become one of the women sitting at the panel right now? It would just be impossible in my household.
01:38:02.300
We keep her away from this kind of secular living, keeping them away from tablets, not letting them be
01:38:07.820
raised on Instagram and social media and TikTok, making sure that they have family values instilled in
01:38:12.940
them, that they know what the cross represents. Um, and that, you know, they're, they're church
01:38:18.220
going children and it's all about who you hang out with. You be, you will become the average of the
01:38:21.980
people you spend your most time with. And I, you know, I appreciate the time here, but I would
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definitely would say that, you know, I want my kids to be in a different climate. All right. We have
01:38:31.660
the cast man 777 marriage must be a closed and permanent relationship between two people for the
01:38:36.700
purpose of raising children without this definition. Marriage just becomes dating with a contract,
01:38:42.220
sending your husband to a sex therapist for sex is just prostitution with a loophole. Hey,
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the cast man 777. Thank you very much for your comment there. Uh, final question here before,
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uh, Candace has to take off. Uh, so, um, would any of you date a trans person?
01:39:01.500
Yes. Yes. Yes. Yeah. I feel like if I say no, I'm going to get a lot of backlash. Well,
01:39:09.820
I think my personal preference, I would say no. Okay. That's fine. No, no, no. Well, you're married.
01:39:16.060
Um, me, me personally, I, I, I would not. Um, my question to you guys is, would any of you object
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to a man not wanting to date a transgender woman? I think everybody has their own personal
01:39:31.180
preferences. And if there's one thing you're allowed to be super picky on, it's who you date.
01:39:35.900
Like, you know, I think that's the only thing that you can 100% have free reign on. You can date
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who you decide. Any, I would completely agree with her. Like we talked about before, I think that
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everyone should have boundaries, you know, and as long as that person's upfront and honest and they can
01:39:51.580
have like a adult conversation that isn't rooted in hatred, I don't think there's anything wrong with
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preferring somebody that isn't trans. Okay. I have a question. So, and we, this has been like a thing
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that's gone viral on this podcast before. Um, and it's always seems to spark quite a debate. So
01:40:09.180
would you consider it to be gay for a man to date a trans woman? Yes. For a man to date? No, personally.
01:40:18.940
Would he, would you categorize him as straight? Um, probably, yeah. Because what is it?
01:40:26.540
I'm sorry. This is like too technical. I mean, I'm like, I just. If you don't want to answer,
01:40:32.140
that's fine. Go ahead. If you don't want to answer, that's fine. Go ahead. I'm with Pixie.
01:40:35.420
I don't think that that makes me gay at all. What do you, Essie? I have no clue.
01:40:39.500
For not to answer? Yeah. Okay. Um, question. I mean, does your answer change based on the
01:40:45.100
stage of transition? Like what if this is before any transition has occurred at all,
01:40:49.900
but the person has come to the realization that they are transgender? Well, I would assume that
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you have some level of like homosexual inclination. If you're a man attracted to a person who looks and
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represents as a man, you know, like if you're saying pre-transition, I would say like you're,
01:41:08.460
if you're attracted to those components of that person. But pre-transition, if you are transgender,
01:41:13.740
are you a woman? Pre-transition, you're a woman who hasn't transitioned yet. So you're presenting as
01:41:19.740
a male. What if there hasn't been any bottom surgery? What do you mean? Like there's still
01:41:27.180
an appendage. So you're saying they transitioned everything, but they're bottom. I there, maybe
01:41:34.540
they're in the process of transitioning. Let's say, fine, everything, but the... Okay. I feel like
01:41:39.900
I'm kind of confused here. So I'll just leave it in the, in these sentences. It seems really technical.
01:41:43.420
Two people that have penises. I don't care how you feel on your inside. I don't care if you dress
01:41:47.900
and you wear a dress, you wear a wig. If you come together and you have sex, you're gay. And I
01:41:53.340
think that is homosexual, right? So I know that people are trying, it's, it is convoluted. So I understand
01:41:58.860
why you're like, they're trying to make it something else and it's in your head. And well, what if you feel like a woman?
01:42:04.140
It's very simple. If you are a man and you are having sex with a man, irrespective of how you
01:42:09.020
feel or whether or not you've mutilated your body or you've chopped something off, it doesn't make you
01:42:13.660
not a man. You are your man. And two men coming together to have sex with their appendages intact,
01:42:20.460
obviously is homosexual sex. So yeah, I think, um, you know, it's different if you're presenting
01:42:26.060
completely different because at that point, like, you know, you have men who say that they've been
01:42:30.540
trapped or whatever. And I'm like, that person is straight. They literally slept with someone who
01:42:34.700
was like presenting as a woman, looked like a woman they couldn't tell. Like, I wouldn't consider
01:42:38.940
that gay. Um, but at the end of the day, like, honestly, I don't really care about people's sexual
01:42:43.580
orientation that much. I feel like this is like kind of a culture war issue. And for some people,
01:42:47.660
culture war issues are important, but I'd rather talk like policy about something. I don't know if that
01:42:51.820
makes me boring here, but. Well, I'm not sure I'm totally following, but I guess, so what is a woman?
01:43:04.460
I've answered this question before on the podcast. Here, I can start with Azalea. Did I say your
01:43:08.140
name or I'm sorry? No, you never do, but it's okay. Okay, go ahead. So what is a woman? I mean, I think that
01:43:15.020
gender is a spectrum. I obviously know that you do not agree with me and a lot of the conservative
01:43:18.620
people here won't agree with me, but I guess it's just how you present and how you feel.
01:43:22.540
I mean, I don't really, again, I don't like to structure things that way and like make it so
01:43:26.220
black and white. I think that people should represent themselves and be what they want to
01:43:29.820
be. And it's nobody else's business, to be honest. A female is somebody that has a vagina.
01:43:34.940
That's what it says in the book, right? Okay, cool. The Bible? The health ed book.
01:43:42.860
Gender and sex are two different things, so. Okay. You answered the question correctly,
01:43:47.020
so I don't want you to feel like you didn't even treat it wrong. What is a woman?
01:43:49.900
A woman is somebody. I'm like, this is so complex. I'm scared.
01:43:51.980
It doesn't need to be. It doesn't need to be. A woman is somebody who presents or acts as
01:43:56.300
the social construct of women. And the reason why I don't say biology is because whenever we look at
01:44:00.780
biology, the truth is, before coming to this room, I did not look at anybody's genitalia here. I did not
01:44:06.300
look at any of your chromosomes. I just assumed you guys were women because of how you dress and act.
01:44:10.940
So I think that maps on more to our reality of how we use the word woman.
01:44:16.700
Essie? This is so controversial. I'm very, like, a man and a woman. Man has a penis. Woman has a vagina.
01:44:25.740
Biologically, man and a woman. I agree. I think that it's like whatever biologically and anatomically
01:44:32.700
what you've got going on. I feel like what brings out my feminine qualities the most is the thought
01:44:41.740
of being a mother in the future. So I guess I associate being a woman with being a mother in
01:44:47.820
all aspects of that. Okay. Your gender is decided before you're born, when you're born, and for the
01:44:56.620
rest of your life. I'm having a little boy. The doctor knows that. I know that because he's got a penis.
01:45:02.700
It's growing inside of my stomach right now, which is kind of tricky to think about.
01:45:06.620
If I get onto this table and I start meowing like a cat, I don't suddenly become a biological cat
01:45:11.500
because I present like a cat and wear a tail and say meow, meow. That probably means that I need to
01:45:17.420
talk to a therapist. Not you. Not you. But yeah, it's not that difficult. It doesn't need to be
01:45:24.460
convoluted. It doesn't need to be controversial. A woman, to answer your question, is an adult female.
01:45:30.780
Adult human female. It is an adult human female. And that is the answer to something that it's just
01:45:38.220
shocking to me that every person knew, every child, every, and then within just a couple of cultural
01:45:44.300
years, everyone is so confused about, you know, water being a liquid. It's very, again, I'm fascinated by
01:45:51.740
it. So I love to talk to people that are confused by that. But if you were born with a vagina,
01:45:56.620
you are a female. And if you were born with a penis, you are a male. And if you had some rare
01:46:03.900
thing happen, which hardly ever happens, but people always talk about it, where you're born with both
01:46:08.780
parts, you might be intersex, hermaphrodite. But generally speaking, I think we know that that
01:46:15.100
means that something genetically went wrong and we are born either male or female.
01:46:19.500
Pixie, do you object to her definition? Yeah, because I think, I understand where you're coming
01:46:24.620
from. But I think when it comes to day-to-day use of words, they have to map onto our reality somewhat.
01:46:29.900
And the truth is like, as I didn't check anyone's like biology or chromosomes before coming here,
01:46:34.780
you can say it's an act. But the truth is, that's, it's an act that everybody plays into. Everybody looks
01:46:39.740
at how a person looks like and says, oh, they're a woman or male based off of that. And you can say,
01:46:44.620
oh, that person is putting on a disguise that doesn't change their real gender or anything.
01:46:49.580
But everybody acts that way. So to me, it's like, no, like the word that maps or the definition that
01:46:55.660
maps most onto reality, onto our day-to-day usage is appearance based.
01:46:59.660
Uh, Candace does have to take off here. Do you have a final response to her?
01:47:05.020
Yeah, I just, if you grow an afro and wear a wig and put, you know, a lot of black makeup on,
01:47:09.740
you're not a black woman, you know? So your appearance doesn't actually mean anything.
01:47:13.820
You are, you're, you're not black. Um, and the same way that I'm not white. So how we,
01:47:19.900
if we can trick someone, you might be able to trick me. I think Roy Richard Dolezal did a really
01:47:23.420
good job tricking people into believing that she was black for a long time, uh, by darkening her
01:47:27.820
skin, getting super tan and wearing fake wigs, but she wasn't actually a black woman. So how you feel
01:47:32.460
on the inside and how you present, you might be able to trick people, but that makes you a liar,
01:47:36.700
not a woman. So, um, yeah, that's what I would say in closing. Yeah. If you want, you could direct
01:47:42.540
your further comments to me afterwards, but, um, guys, please be sure to check out Candace Owens'
01:47:48.700
documentary. Yes. Convicting a murderer. You guys will love it. Tomorrow. It's not political.
01:47:53.020
Yeah. I'm going to watch it tomorrow. It'll be live on X. Live on X and the dailywire.com.
01:47:58.060
Okay. Yeah, cool. Um, yeah, be sure to check that out guys. Well, Candace,
01:48:01.900
thank you so much for coming. Thank you guys for having me. And honestly, I really did appreciate
01:48:04.540
talking to you guys. I thought it was fascinating. And I think everyone was super respectful. So
01:48:07.740
I really appreciate it. And you, cause you're so young, I'm just going to say a prayer for you
01:48:12.300
because I, I do think, I really do believe that in there, there's just a different life for you.
01:48:17.900
And I'm just going to say a prayer for you tonight. And I just wanted to say that because I felt
01:48:21.020
for me tonight. I mean, cause I don't know what that prayer entails.
01:48:24.300
Well, I'm going to say it anyways. Yeah. Someday you might.
01:48:27.820
Are you, you're rejecting the prayer. Prayer is rejected. Okay.
01:48:30.860
I am rejecting your prayer. The show goes on, but Candace is, is leaving guys.
01:48:35.100
Give me just a sec to say goodbye. So nice to meet you guys.
01:48:37.900
Yo guys, W's in the chat for Candace. W's in the chat for Candace. 07's in the chat for Candace.
01:48:42.700
Sorry. Let me, I'll scoot over a little bit. Yeah. If I want to be a ho, I'll be a ho.
01:48:46.940
Guys, give me just a sec while I say goodbye. And then we'll, we'll continue with the stream.