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00:00:28.540 Welcome to the Whatever Dating Talk podcast.

00:00:32.240 Thank you for tuning in tonight.

00:00:33.120 You could have been anywhere in the world

00:00:34.080 but you're here with me.

00:00:34.920 I appreciate that.

00:00:35.940 We are coming to you live from Santa Barbara, California

00:00:38.500 every Sunday and Tuesday at 5 p.m. Pacific.

00:00:41.840 I am your host, Brian Atlas.

00:00:44.320 Without further ado, we're going to have the guests

00:00:45.940 introduce themselves one more time.

00:00:47.460 So please tell us your name, age and occupation.

00:00:50.060 Go ahead.

00:00:50.700 My name is Azalea.

00:00:51.580 I'm 31 and I'm a flight attendant and content creator.

00:00:54.460 What kind of content do you?

00:00:56.660 Twitch streaming, OnlyFans and yeah.

00:01:00.380 All right.

00:01:00.980 What about you?

00:01:01.620 My name is Lexi.

00:01:02.700 I am 22 years old and I'm a full-time sex worker.

00:01:06.220 Okay.

00:01:06.600 And when you say sex worker, what do you mean?

00:01:09.180 I do content creating like on OnlyFans 0.91

00:01:12.240 as well as stripping at strip clubs.

00:01:14.660 And I work as a legal courtesan in Nevada. 0.78

00:01:18.820 A courtesan. 0.98

00:01:19.740 Meaning a legal prostitute. 1.00

00:01:21.840 Okay. 0.83

00:01:22.360 So is there, have you ever been to a court?

00:01:26.420 No.

00:01:27.260 Not like for criminal reasons, but like a, have you ever been?

00:01:31.600 You know what I meant.

00:01:32.500 No, no, no.

00:01:32.860 But like courtesan, you know. 1.00

00:01:35.380 I mean, there's, there's still Kings out there that have a court.

00:01:38.980 So you could like the Philippines, do they have a King?

00:01:43.640 Do you know?

00:01:44.100 I don't think so.

00:01:45.620 There's some Kings out there.

00:01:47.220 There's the King of Sweden, King of, so like an actual, you know, court.

00:01:53.860 Courtesan.

00:01:54.760 Okay.

00:01:55.120 All right.

00:01:55.440 She's a courtesan folks. 1.00

00:01:56.680 Okay.

00:01:57.120 What about you? 1.00

00:01:57.600 Illegal prostitute. 1.00

00:01:58.580 That's the term for it. 0.99

00:01:59.840 Okay.

00:02:01.360 Hi, my name's Pixie.

00:02:03.280 I'm 24 years old and I stream politics on Twitch.

00:02:07.700 All right.

00:02:08.120 Welcome back.

00:02:09.860 I'm Essie.

00:02:10.760 I'm 24.

00:02:11.720 I have two jobs.

00:02:13.040 My passion is social media management and then I do OnlyFans as well.

00:02:18.380 Hey there.

00:02:19.220 I'm Olivia Bentley and I am an intimacy coach.

00:02:22.100 I am a legal sex worker and I am an OnlyFans content creator.

00:02:27.260 Did you say age?

00:02:28.840 46.

00:02:29.560 46.

00:02:30.180 Okay.

00:02:30.380 Got it.

00:02:32.160 Hi, I'm Tara.

00:02:33.480 I'm 22 years old and I'm an EEG technician and research assistant in the field of clinical

00:02:39.620 neuroscience.

00:02:42.700 I'm Lily.

00:02:43.780 I'm 23 years old and I'm a couple of things.

00:02:46.440 I'm a student at Belmont.

00:02:47.620 I'm graduating soon and I'm a personal trainer and my goal is to be a worship artist.

00:02:53.120 Got to make money though.

00:02:55.060 I am Candace Owens.

00:02:56.660 I'm a wife.

00:02:57.500 I'm a mother at first and I also obviously have a political podcast, documentary filmmaker

00:03:03.800 and I just create a ton of content regarding what's going on in the media landscape.

00:03:08.360 Sweet.

00:03:09.360 Sweet.

00:03:09.540 And you have tomorrow a documentary coming soon.

00:03:14.220 Yes.

00:03:14.780 Convicting a murderer.

00:03:15.980 Very excited about that.

00:03:16.960 What time does it drop?

00:03:18.460 You can watch it live on X tomorrow night.

00:03:20.820 So we're super excited about that.

00:03:22.080 It also will be available on Daily Wire Plus.

00:03:24.280 The first two episodes will be free.

00:03:26.580 And yeah, it's jumping into kind of building on Netflix made Making a Murderer.

00:03:30.960 Made it seem as if Stephen Avery was guilty.

00:03:32.780 I don't know if you guys watched that.

00:03:34.500 It was very, everyone was obsessed with this idea that the justice system got it wrong.

00:03:39.520 We kind of went in, re-examined the case and created Convicting a Murderer, which is a

00:03:44.660 10-part series, first docu-series I think we've ever done at the Daily Wire.

00:03:48.580 I'm extremely proud of it.

00:03:50.020 It's apolitical first and foremost.

00:03:52.140 And it's, you know, it's been a labor of love.

00:03:55.520 So I'm super excited to bring it to everybody and to change people's minds about what they

00:03:59.540 thought they originally knew about the case.

00:04:01.240 So, yeah.

00:04:02.700 And you went, if I, you went boots on the ground in, was it Manitowoc County?

00:04:08.560 Went to Stephen Avery's.

00:04:10.220 The junkyard.

00:04:11.420 The junkyard.

00:04:11.920 Yep.

00:04:12.340 And, yeah, just, I like to get my hands dirty in terms of really understanding what's going

00:04:17.320 on and talking to people in the town and seeing how they are impacted.

00:04:20.720 Because for us, we scroll through our cell phones aimlessly and we comment on these cases.

00:04:25.580 But real lives are impacted when something goes viral and especially when something goes

00:04:29.000 viral and produces the wrong answer.

00:04:30.840 Lives can be destroyed.

00:04:32.340 And in this particular circumstance, you have a man and his nephew that are in prison and

00:04:35.980 they get love letters and they've got fiancés and adoring fans and people writing songs

00:04:40.180 about them.

00:04:40.800 And that's all because Netflix was able to produce a docu-series and people believe that

00:04:45.660 everything they watch is real.

00:04:47.680 And so I'm really interested in dissecting the deceptive media narrative in a bunch of

00:04:53.100 different circumstances.

00:04:54.260 Just, you know, what they're feeding people, what people think is the norm, what people

00:04:58.260 think will bring them happiness, what people think is true.

00:05:00.580 And so that's kind of been my schtick, so to speak, for the last 10 years.

00:05:05.260 I remember seeing Making a Murder when it came out, I think it was 2015.

00:05:09.980 Correct.

00:05:10.560 And then they came out with like a part two a couple years later. 1.00

00:05:13.960 And basically, my understanding is your documentary is saying, nah, he did that shit. 0.99

00:05:19.620 Is that about... 1.00

00:05:21.520 And that's the most eloquent way to put it.

00:05:22.940 I mean, there's obviously, you go into some details and you've reanalyzed the court footage

00:05:29.380 and the documents and...

00:05:31.260 Yeah, just showing people what they didn't want you to see, essentially.

00:05:34.320 Because when people decide in a narrative, the media gets fully behind it.

00:05:37.920 It's a full court effort.

00:05:39.440 It's supported by the usual pundits and suspects.

00:05:42.800 Alec Baldwin got behind the Stephen Avery innocent train.

00:05:45.780 Nobody thought about the woman who actually was killed and murdered.

00:05:48.120 Trevor Noah got behind it.

00:05:49.340 You know, I kind of say anything that goes from Netflix to Alec Baldwin to Trevor Noah,

00:05:53.240 you should immediately have your radar up and just go, am I hearing the truth?

00:05:57.060 Or am I listening to propaganda?

00:05:59.100 And I'm fascinated by the impact of propaganda.

00:06:01.340 I've been impacted by propaganda.

00:06:03.120 You know, I'm obviously a person that started with liberal tendencies.

00:06:06.640 I think everyone knows that part of my story.

00:06:09.080 I was left-leaning, so to speak.

00:06:11.480 And now I'm super conservative.

00:06:13.760 So it's right on par with everything that I do and everything that I've learned in my life

00:06:17.840 about, you know, not just accepting what the media is trying to spoon-feed you.

00:06:23.340 One question, so, and I don't know if you want to save some of this for what's in the

00:06:27.600 actual documentary, but what would you say is, like, the most egregious thing making a

00:06:33.460 murderer did that they just either, something that was deceptive or something that was omitted,

00:06:38.240 if there's one thing that was just the biggest smoking gun?

00:06:41.600 Yeah, well, I think I can definitely tell you this because this will be, within the next

00:06:44.600 24 hours, people will be able to see this.

00:06:46.140 But just skipping over who he was before he, they believed, was wrongly convicted of this

00:06:52.820 murder, people tend to tell you who they are early on.

00:06:55.620 And a person that's torturing animals and cats and dogs and, you know, in a relationship that

00:07:02.900 is, you know, with a minor who's crying and talking about that.

00:07:06.840 You know, he just had a very long, thick packet of crimes that they decided not to mention or to

00:07:11.840 entirely diminish and make it seem like, oh, that was nothing.

00:07:15.020 Yeah, so what?

00:07:15.600 He threw a cat in the fire and doused it in gasoline, the family pet.

00:07:19.940 And not normal behavior, not something that we do when we have a couple of drinks.

00:07:23.700 And I think that was kind of the most egregious thing, really unpacking everything that they

00:07:27.980 chose to leave out about who he was.

00:07:30.020 Can I make a pitch to you and to the Daily Wire for the next documentary?

00:07:34.620 Can you guys look into the Tiger King?

00:07:38.800 Could you guys maybe put Matt Walsh and Michael Knowles on it?

00:07:42.420 Oh my God, Matt Walsh and the Tiger King needs to happen.

00:07:44.940 I'm fully behind you on this pitch.

00:07:46.800 Yes.

00:07:47.280 I will bring this to the right people who can make the right decisions.

00:07:50.200 Please, please.

00:07:50.520 Can I get like a little special thanks in the...

00:07:52.620 Matt Walsh and the Tiger King is irresistible.

00:07:56.560 Do you think that Matt Walsh would be the best at the Daily Wire to tackle the...

00:08:01.760 Yes.

00:08:02.060 Okay.

00:08:02.560 There's just something about the fact that Matt's a cat and he always kind of gives you

00:08:06.480 the impression that he doesn't want to be there and he just has to kind of lecture us

00:08:08.960 all.

00:08:09.440 Like he's like the classic dad.

00:08:11.140 Right, right, right.

00:08:11.500 And I just find him to be so funny even when he's not trying to be funny.

00:08:14.760 Okay.

00:08:15.140 Yeah.

00:08:15.480 Nice.

00:08:16.580 Nice.

00:08:17.240 Cool.

00:08:17.480 Well, we'll go around the table once more.

00:08:20.100 So what is your, everybody's current relationship status?

00:08:24.900 So are you single?

00:08:27.080 Are you in the talking stage, situationship, friends with benefits, relationship, married,

00:08:32.200 polycule?

00:08:33.900 Are you, whatever, maybe.

00:08:35.860 So if you're single, how long have you been single?

00:08:38.360 And what's your longest relationship?

00:08:40.500 Starting with you, go ahead.

00:08:42.140 I'm in a relationship.

00:08:43.320 I have been for about a year and a half.

00:08:45.260 And my longest relationship is two years.

00:08:48.520 Okay.

00:08:51.700 I am single.

00:08:52.660 And my longest relationship was probably about four years.

00:08:56.820 How long have you been single?

00:08:59.280 I've been single for about, I want to say a year now.

00:09:04.320 Okay.

00:09:06.020 I'm single.

00:09:07.640 My longest relationship was like around three to four years.

00:09:11.180 And I've been single since like February around there.

00:09:15.260 Okay.

00:09:16.620 I'm single.

00:09:17.740 Um, I've been single for six years almost now, so.

00:09:22.620 Since you were pretty much 18, you've been single?

00:09:25.060 Right.

00:09:25.300 Okay.

00:09:25.620 Gotcha.

00:09:27.220 Has, did you have like a high school boyfriend or anything like that or?

00:09:30.820 Yeah, I think I dated two guys in high school, but it was very brief.

00:09:33.600 At the same time?

00:09:34.660 No, definitely not.

00:09:35.400 Oh, separately.

00:09:35.520 Okay.

00:09:36.300 Okay.

00:09:36.700 Okay.

00:09:36.780 Gotcha.

00:09:37.480 What about you?

00:09:38.200 So I just got out of a relationship of six months with a federal agent and I am single.

00:09:44.180 Ready to mingle.

00:09:45.160 Federal agents.

00:09:46.220 Yeah.

00:09:46.440 CIA, FBI, Coast Guard.

00:09:50.140 Oh, wait, that's not it.

00:09:50.920 Nevermind.

00:09:51.540 Federal agent down in Texas.

00:09:54.700 So, yeah.

00:09:55.480 Got it.

00:09:57.060 Um, and what's your longest relationship you've ever had?

00:09:59.740 Um, I would say seven years.

00:10:03.620 Seven years.

00:10:04.260 Were you married or?

00:10:05.480 I was.

00:10:06.000 Okay.

00:10:06.320 Gotcha.

00:10:07.700 All right.

00:10:09.320 I'm currently single.

00:10:10.820 My longest relationship was a little over a year and I've been single for about one year.

00:10:16.440 Um, I just started talking to somebody a couple of weeks ago, but I guess I'm single and my

00:10:24.440 longest relationship was about three years.

00:10:27.740 Wait, sorry.

00:10:28.500 You, you just started talking to somebody, but you're.

00:10:31.680 I'm, I've been single since February, 2022.

00:10:34.840 And so this is, it's really fresh.

00:10:37.780 Okay.

00:10:38.200 I would still consider myself single.

00:10:39.260 It's early on.

00:10:39.860 Okay.

00:10:40.820 Uh, Candace.

00:10:41.860 I'm married.

00:10:42.500 I'm married.

00:10:43.120 Third child on the way.

00:10:44.660 Third child will be here in 10 weeks.

00:10:46.700 Oh, you're pregnant right now. 1.00

00:10:47.620 Yes.

00:10:47.960 Are you kidding me?

00:10:48.440 Very pregnant right now. 0.97

00:10:49.460 Okay.

00:10:49.740 Uh, but it's good of you not to assume, right?

00:10:52.060 Yeah.

00:10:52.220 I don't want to, I don't want to, yeah, I don't want to get into any trouble.

00:10:56.180 Um, you're how far along?

00:10:58.860 30 weeks.

00:10:59.760 30.

00:11:00.160 Oh, wow.

00:11:00.580 Okay.

00:11:00.940 Yeah.

00:11:01.620 Any thoughts on the, is it a boy?

00:11:03.940 Thoughts on whether it's a boy?

00:11:05.080 No, I have a biological understanding that it's a boy.

00:11:08.780 Okay.

00:11:08.980 Um, no, I didn't mean it that way.

00:11:12.020 I didn't mean it that way.

00:11:12.640 It's definitively a boy and, uh, I have one boy already at home who's two and I have a

00:11:19.220 little girl that's one.

00:11:20.660 So we're on the back to, I've basically been pregnant for three years.

00:11:23.500 So this is kind of my permanent state at the moment.

00:11:25.940 Yeah.

00:11:26.680 Wow.

00:11:26.940 I mean, it's, yeah, congrats.

00:11:28.520 And, uh, it's certainly impressive that you still, uh, are, you're working like crazy

00:11:33.620 and, uh, yeah.

00:11:34.460 Well, otherwise you'll just drive yourself crazy.

00:11:36.500 Yeah.

00:11:37.820 Sweet.

00:11:38.440 Um, and how long have you been married for?

00:11:40.320 Four years.

00:11:41.120 Four years.

00:11:41.760 Gotcha.

00:11:42.640 Okay.

00:11:43.800 And you, you said, um, earlier on that you used to be kind of left-leaning or super left-leaning?

00:11:52.840 Definitely left-leaning.

00:11:53.840 Okay.

00:11:54.200 Yeah.

00:11:54.820 Which I think is pretty.

00:11:55.420 Like nose ring, pink hair? 0.85

00:11:56.300 No, no, there's no, there's no old photos that are going to surface of me in a pussy hat 0.99

00:12:00.260 screaming about aborting my children. 0.99

00:12:02.720 I'm safe in that regard.

00:12:04.080 But, um, I mean, I would say, uh, I was definitely on the left, held liberal perspectives, which I think

00:12:10.660 is actually really normal when you're young.

00:12:13.060 I think when you're young, you kind of associate liberalism with freedom and you're like, well,

00:12:17.460 I mean, even the word sounds better to be a liberal than to be a conservative.

00:12:20.280 Um, so I, I think that's, that's why they have that quote that if you're not a liberal, when

00:12:25.440 you're young, you don't have a heart.

00:12:26.560 If you're not a conservative, when you're older, you don't have a brain.

00:12:28.860 So it turns out I had a heart and I do have a brain.

00:12:30.760 Uh, so now I'm a conservative and, um, but I, I'm actually happy that I used to be a liberal

00:12:37.040 because I, I think I understand why people gravitate toward it and, uh, it helps me better

00:12:43.800 able to communicate to people because I can understand where they're at.

00:12:46.760 Got it.

00:12:47.660 And since, uh, we, I feel like politics is sort of related to dating because obviously you

00:12:54.880 want, I assume most people want to date and partner with someone who has shared values.

00:13:00.220 So let's go around the table.

00:13:01.820 What's everybody's politics?

00:13:03.320 Would you consider yourself, let's say liberal, moderate, conservative, apolitical?

00:13:10.300 I mean, I guess I would have liberal stances or what people would call liberal stances.

00:13:14.060 I don't like to call myself a liberal, but that would be where I guess.

00:13:18.680 Progressive would be a good word for it.

00:13:21.160 Yeah.

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00:14:22.060 I guess liberal.

00:14:28.640 Okay.

00:14:29.200 More liberal.

00:14:30.400 Okay.

00:14:31.280 I consider myself a progressive.

00:14:34.560 Okay.

00:14:36.000 I would say I'm an independent where it's like in between.

00:14:40.860 But kind of more so leading right just based off of how I was raised.

00:14:47.280 How were you raised?

00:14:48.720 Super conservative.

00:14:50.000 Super religious. 0.89

00:14:51.840 Okay.

00:14:52.120 So maybe moderate politically.

00:14:55.860 Maybe.

00:14:56.640 Are there some things you're a bit more progressive on?

00:15:00.040 Other things you're a bit more conservative on?

00:15:01.580 Yeah.

00:15:01.800 Okay.

00:15:02.760 What about you?

00:15:03.180 So when I started out in my early 20s, I can relate to Candace.

00:15:08.020 I was a little bit more on the left.

00:15:10.080 And then as time has gone on and I've worked real jobs and I've been out in the real world,

00:15:15.140 I'm more to the right.

00:15:16.540 I am independent and I don't like our two-party system.

00:15:20.000 I think it's failed.

00:15:20.700 But I would say I lean more to the right.

00:15:25.100 Okay.

00:15:27.360 I was raised very liberal, but I found myself becoming more conservative, especially over

00:15:32.380 the past three years.

00:15:33.260 But I wouldn't fully call myself a conservative yet.

00:15:35.020 I would just say I'm still centrist.

00:15:37.400 Good place to be.

00:15:40.200 Same.

00:15:40.700 I used to be pretty liberal, but I am very, very conservative.

00:15:44.140 Oh, you already answered.

00:15:48.140 Okay.

00:15:49.120 Okay.

00:15:49.580 Cool.

00:15:50.460 All right.

00:15:51.420 So I have a first question here.

00:15:54.120 So I'm trying to hold on.

00:15:59.880 I'm seeing where I want to start here.

00:16:01.020 Actually, wait, we had one chat come in.

00:16:02.760 I'll just read it while we have it.

00:16:03.700 Goodness, boy.

00:16:04.480 Thank you for being on the show, Candace, but the world is effed.

00:16:07.240 Can already tell from the panel that your views will not change their outlook.

00:16:10.160 Never say never.

00:16:11.180 Brian, you could be an amazing psyoper.

00:16:14.400 Just saying.

00:16:15.820 I've had a couple accusations that this show is a psyop.

00:16:19.520 By the CIA, believe it or not.

00:16:21.480 I've had a couple.

00:16:22.280 You have any show that is an accusation that you get.

00:16:24.880 Have you had any?

00:16:25.780 Oh, my God.

00:16:26.060 Yeah.

00:16:27.500 Candace Owens' show is a psyop.

00:16:29.660 By who, though?

00:16:30.720 Who is psyoping?

00:16:32.360 Okay.

00:16:33.500 But Goodest Boy, thank you very much for that.

00:16:36.520 And then we had a couple.

00:16:39.060 We had this one.

00:16:40.400 Seven deadly simps donated $200.

00:16:42.700 Nick, can you boost the audio a little?

00:16:43.920 Dear Candace, what are your thoughts on Proverbs 2119?

00:16:48.520 Better to live in a desert than with a quarrelsome and nagging wife. 1.00

00:16:52.540 Also, 777 decillion 777.

00:16:57.080 No, million, seven hundred and seventy.

00:16:59.580 Why?

00:16:59.960 What is that?

00:17:02.020 He's just kind of a joke.

00:17:04.260 He's kind of memeing.

00:17:05.000 I don't know.

00:17:05.740 Because the TTS voice will read anything.

00:17:10.860 Quadrillion, seven hundred and seventy-seven quadrillion.

00:17:11.860 But so, thank you, seven deadly simps.

00:17:14.820 Seven hundred and seventy-seven billion seven hundred and seventy-seven thousand seven hundred and seventy-seven thousand seven hundred and seventy-seven.

00:17:21.880 Welcome to the whatever podcast.

00:17:25.320 So, your thoughts on Proverbs 2119?

00:17:28.000 I like that we just jumped right into the Bible.

00:17:30.500 That's awesome.

00:17:30.940 Yeah, there you go.

00:17:31.460 I would say, yeah, you should aspire to marry the right person.

00:17:35.200 Definitely.

00:17:35.940 Okay.

00:17:36.860 Without question, you should aspire to marry the right person.

00:17:40.300 And part of that is making sure that when you're dating, you're dating somebody of value.

00:17:45.780 And that also, when you're considering looking for someone of value, you also take a second to measure yourself and see if you are a person of value that's worthy of marrying.

00:17:54.400 Because I think people forget that part.

00:17:56.660 And that's almost the most important part.

00:17:58.940 Got it.

00:17:59.440 So, recently, a video went pretty viral on the Internet.

00:18:03.700 And, Candice, you actually tweeted about it.

00:18:05.500 Something about Shashuka.

00:18:07.140 I don't know if I'm saying that right.

00:18:09.120 So, Nick, if you can pull up the video, we're going to just have the panel react to it.

00:18:12.000 And then, before you go full screen on that, so, Matt Walsh posted it.

00:18:15.600 And I saw this everywhere.

00:18:16.900 I saw it yesterday.

00:18:18.240 Her life doesn't revolve around her family and kids.

00:18:20.680 So, instead, it revolves around TV shows and pop stars. 1.00

00:18:23.660 Worst of all, she's too stupid to realize how depressing this is. 1.00

00:18:27.480 And then, Candice, quote, X'd it. 1.00

00:18:31.100 Quote tweeted.

00:18:31.700 I don't know anymore.

00:18:32.400 X'd it.

00:18:32.900 Okay.

00:18:33.540 Quote X'd it.

00:18:34.700 This is what was future.

00:18:38.000 Wait.

00:18:38.340 This is what was.

00:18:39.840 This is what a future.

00:18:40.600 This is what a future.

00:18:42.420 Sorry.

00:18:43.340 Future depression, Xanax, and wine combo nights alone looks like.

00:18:47.340 But, hey, the Shashuka.

00:18:49.500 That's going to be amazing.

00:18:51.160 So, let's play the video.

00:18:53.120 Nick, if you can go full screen on it.

00:18:54.880 And then, we'll get the panel's reaction.

00:18:56.460 Xanax wine nights.

00:18:58.180 It's 10.45 a.m. on a Saturday.

00:19:00.180 I'm 29 and single, and I don't have kids yet.

00:19:02.900 Here's what your Saturday morning looks like when you're single at 29 and you don't have a kid running around the house.

00:19:08.940 I didn't rise from my bed until 10.15.

00:19:11.780 Every time I thought, I should probably get up and do something, I thought, why?

00:19:15.420 Nobody's making me.

00:19:16.360 I'm not missing out on anything.

00:19:17.740 I went to Beyonce last night, and I didn't get home until 1 a.m., and I danced and drank my little heart out, and I didn't pay a babysitter to watch my kids as I did that.

00:19:25.400 And I woke up a tad hungover this morning, which is probably why I was in bed for so long.

00:19:29.260 And I was just scrolling on my phone, and I saw a picture of Shashuka, and I thought, you know what sounds really good?

00:19:34.500 Maybe I'm going to learn how to make Shashuka today.

00:19:36.760 Because I have no plans, and I don't have kids, and I don't have a husband, and I don't have errands to run.

00:19:41.700 I can go to the grocery store and learn how to make Shashuka, so that's on my agenda today.

00:19:45.960 Also on my agenda, probably a rewatch of some Real Housewives of New York.

00:19:49.320 I'm also doing a rewatch of Normal People on Hulu, which is really spicy and I highly recommend.

00:19:53.920 Weirdly, I'm into this documentary on Netflix about Blue Zone countries, so I've got a pretty stacked day.

00:19:58.960 Anyway, I say all this to say, whenever I'm hard on myself about why I'm not married, and I don't have kids,

00:20:04.640 and I should be further along at 29, almost 30, I wouldn't want to do anything else this Saturday.

00:20:10.500 I know that you can do all these things when you have kids, and you're married, and I understand.

00:20:15.820 But the effortlessness and ease of my life, just kind of focusing on myself,

00:20:20.660 and the Shashuka I want to make, or the Beyonce concert I want to go to, really pays off when

00:20:26.520 I'm hard on myself for not being where society tells me I should be in life.

00:20:31.240 I thought it was going to be really her going,

00:20:33.760 Sha, Sha, Sha.

00:20:36.160 So, what, why do you guys think that this video went kind of crazy viral, and what's the analysis here?

00:20:44.500 I mean, it went crazy viral because Matt Walsh tweeted it, let's be real.

00:20:48.960 That would have just gone into the ethosphere on TikTok, and no one would have talked about it

00:20:53.380 had he not picked that up and tweeted it.

00:20:55.440 Well, was Matt, I don't know if Matt Walsh was, like, the first person.

00:20:58.140 He was.

00:20:58.340 Oh, was he? Really? Okay, I didn't, I didn't know that.

00:21:01.460 But, I guess my, what's interesting to me is that this woman has actually even said, you know,

00:21:08.160 she gives herself a hard time.

00:21:09.740 She wants to be married. 0.97

00:21:10.920 She wants to have children. 0.98

00:21:11.840 So, I don't think that it's right to demonize her and act like she's going to have a depressing life

00:21:15.980 when she just hasn't found the right person because, clearly, she wants those things,

00:21:19.280 and she's trying to make herself feel better, and other people in that community feel better

00:21:22.960 about not being that far along.

00:21:24.900 Because, like you said, you wanted people to settle down with the right person,

00:21:28.640 take their time, figure out if that's the right person.

00:21:31.040 So, just because she's 29, you're saying that it's, like, too late for her,

00:21:33.740 and she's going to be doing Xanax and drinking wine at night because she hasn't reached that point yet.

00:21:37.560 I didn't say that. That's not what my tweet said.

00:21:40.220 That's not what my tweet said.

00:21:40.760 You said the future.

00:21:41.420 Yeah, because she's obviously a narcissist, right? 1.00

00:21:45.400 Why would you think that?

00:21:46.220 First and foremost, let's not pretend this is one video that she made.

00:21:49.180 It's her brand on TikTok.

00:21:50.540 It's her brand on social media.

00:21:52.320 She talks about these are this community known as Dinks. 1.00

00:21:55.100 We're happy and we're childless.

00:21:56.460 She talks about how great it is to be childless.

00:21:58.020 So, she has developed a social media influencer that talks about childlessness.

00:22:01.940 So, let's not pretend this is one woman making a video who just said, 1.00

00:22:04.680 oh, I had a great Saturday.

00:22:06.140 There's absolutely no reason if you had a great Saturday at 29 years old,

00:22:09.420 and you learned to make shashuka, and you slept in at 11, until 11, 15, or 10, 15, whatever she said,

00:22:15.120 that you need to bring up children.

00:22:16.580 There's absolutely no reason.

00:22:17.440 You just say, here's what I did today.

00:22:18.600 I laid in all day.

00:22:19.880 I did this.

00:22:20.820 I did that.

00:22:21.800 The fact that she has to correlate it to saying,

00:22:24.400 and this somehow makes me better than people that have children is the problem.

00:22:27.460 She started, she literally goes on to talk about not having children.

00:22:32.080 It wasn't necessary in this video.

00:22:33.380 So, it's not like people are just shaming single women on the internet.

00:22:35.580 You could go on right now and talk about what you've done all day,

00:22:38.580 and there's no reason to bring up having a child or not.

00:22:42.300 She's actually doing the shaming, and now we're trying to pretend that she's the victim.

00:22:45.840 She's not.

00:22:46.380 She has a brand where she talks about childlessness,

00:22:48.980 and she talks about leaning into selfishness,

00:22:50.680 and all the things that are amazing about not having children.

00:22:53.260 Again, this is not the first video that she's produced.

00:22:55.680 So, the reason why, and if you're a man watching this, don't marry this woman. 0.68

00:22:59.460 She's basically telling you she's selfish. 0.98

00:23:01.440 She's telling you she's a narcissist. 0.80

00:23:02.940 Everything she says is about me, me, me, me.

00:23:04.980 Even if you're single, you don't have to make your whole day revolve around you.

00:23:07.960 You don't have to.

00:23:08.760 You can get up in the morning.

00:23:09.940 You can go help others.

00:23:10.860 You can do other things.

00:23:12.180 You can say, now that I have free time as a single woman,

00:23:14.800 I can go dedicate time to the church.

00:23:16.900 I can sing.

00:23:18.100 I can do this.

00:23:19.040 I can help people find God. 1.00

00:23:20.720 That particular woman that you just looked at is a selfish bitch, 1.00

00:23:23.260 and men should not marry her. 1.00

00:23:25.020 That's my personal opinion.

00:23:26.240 You wanted to come in really quick?

00:23:27.380 Yes.

00:23:27.800 I wanted to answer your question real quick as to you said why it went viral.

00:23:32.380 I think it went viral because it's like nowadays it's like it's relatable in our day and age.

00:23:42.380 You know what I mean?

00:23:42.980 Like 22, 23 years old.

00:23:44.960 I don't know how old this girl is, but like 29 or whatever.

00:23:48.960 But in my day and age, like it's relatable to be like, ha ha, we don't got kids. 1.00

00:23:54.160 Like quote unquote fuck them kids. 1.00

00:23:56.280 You know what I mean? 1.00

00:23:56.800 It's like.

00:23:57.480 I'm glad you're admitting that.

00:23:58.380 It's like that.

00:23:58.940 I'm glad you're admitting that.

00:23:59.940 It's like a term that people use.

00:24:01.940 You know what I mean?

00:24:02.660 And it's like, it's just relatable.

00:24:05.820 Like that's why it gets so many views is what to answer your question.

00:24:09.720 I think that's really honest of you to say that.

00:24:11.520 You want them to come and go. 1.00

00:24:13.340 Fuck them kids. 1.00

00:24:14.100 Yeah. 1.00

00:24:14.380 No, I said quote unquote.

00:24:15.660 That's what they say.

00:24:16.560 Yeah.

00:24:16.800 But you're admitting that that so that she's starting the fight.

00:24:19.580 You're looking at people that are moms.

00:24:20.840 That are trending. 0.95

00:24:21.400 I don't, when I, when I'm with my kids, I don't post videos and say F them single chicks 0.99

00:24:26.660 with no kids.

00:24:27.380 Right.

00:24:27.700 She did the baiting. 0.99

00:24:29.080 Okay.

00:24:29.480 And we responded.

00:24:30.740 That's it.

00:24:31.060 I don't know.

00:24:31.460 Like it's a new trend.

00:24:32.180 The first thing I was going to say.

00:24:32.940 Hold on.

00:24:33.220 Let's just let Essie go ahead. 1.00

00:24:34.520 Go ahead.

00:24:34.640 The first thing I noticed about the video was that she was putting people with kids down. 0.80

00:24:39.180 It'd be fine if she was talking about how her day was and sporting it differently,

00:24:42.340 but it seemed like almost immediately from the beginning of the video that she was belittling

00:24:45.800 people with kids, which I think is like the part of the problem.

00:24:48.880 Pixie, go ahead. 0.98

00:24:49.700 Yeah, no, I think this is like up to interpretation because personally, when I saw that video,

00:24:54.340 my interpretation was like, oh, she's putting herself down because she's saying like, oh,

00:24:58.440 you know, when I tell myself, why am I not further along in life?

00:25:01.780 You know, it's okay because at least I'm enjoying these things.

00:25:04.500 So I could definitely see like, depending on how you're looking at it, or if you have

00:25:08.060 further context, why you would think she's putting kids down. 1.00

00:25:10.900 But when I saw that video by itself, I was thinking like, people are kind of going a little

00:25:14.660 bit overboard in the sense that she says she's being harsh on herself.

00:25:18.680 She doesn't have children.

00:25:19.860 And these are just the things that have made her happy today.

00:25:22.820 And I don't think that by itself without additional context is inherently wrong.

00:25:29.080 Anybody?

00:25:29.740 Tara, did you?

00:25:30.460 Yeah.

00:25:30.840 Did I say it right this time?

00:25:31.720 Yeah.

00:25:32.020 Okay.

00:25:32.340 Okay.

00:25:32.440 I mean, I don't know the background of what other types of content and messaging she puts

00:25:37.400 out, but just from that video alone, I don't think she ever, to me, I never got the impression

00:25:42.560 she was shaming people that did, that women that were married had kids. 1.00

00:25:45.780 It felt like she felt bad that she wasn't already there and she was just trying to be

00:25:48.880 optimistic about it.

00:25:50.800 And so I think it sounded more like her content was about making women who are childless and

00:25:56.380 not married yet and are approaching the end of their reproductive years to like look on 0.94

00:26:00.940 the bright side.

00:26:02.040 But I really, and I'm the, I, all my friends know I'm like so eager and ready for like marriage

00:26:07.880 and kids, but, um, I, I really honestly just didn't get that impression from that video

00:26:12.200 alone that it was, she was in any way.

00:26:14.000 So when she was talking about, I got to go to a Beyonce concert and I didn't have to pay

00:26:17.260 for a babysitter. 0.98

00:26:18.140 You don't think that was the little, it's so, she was obviously, she was selfish of her 1.00

00:26:21.220 to say that.

00:26:21.680 Yeah.

00:26:22.020 She's being selfish and she was being rude. 0.99

00:26:24.360 And if it was flipped and a conservative woman with children said the opposite of that

00:26:28.640 to single women, it would blow up. 1.00

00:26:30.160 It would blow up.

00:26:30.880 And they would say, how rude of you to, why are you even mentioning single women?

00:26:33.320 Just say you had, you had a good day with your kids.

00:26:35.200 That's fine.

00:26:35.540 And I feel like nowadays it's like, okay, chill.

00:26:39.560 Why are you correlating it to children?

00:26:41.440 It doesn't, you know, it doesn't make any sense.

00:26:42.680 So, and like I said, she's produced more content so that the context is important.

00:26:46.880 She's leaned into this as a brand and as an influencer.

00:26:49.460 So, you know, then you're going to expect the people that influence people to have families

00:26:52.560 to respond, Matt Walsh being among them, me being among them.

00:26:55.920 And I do would like to, again, mourn men against marrying a woman who holds those sorts of 1.00

00:27:00.920 perspectives because she's ultimately just selfish. 1.00

00:27:03.020 Like I said, you can have a day and you can be single.

00:27:05.920 You don't have to dedicate your whole, it's me, me, me, me, narcissist, me.

00:27:09.100 Here's what I did for me.

00:27:10.400 It's just not a woman that you want to marry full stop for leaving apart, leaving the kids 1.00

00:27:14.740 totally separate from it.

00:27:16.080 I wouldn't marry a woman like that. 1.00

00:27:17.400 Go ahead.

00:27:17.960 And all I'm saying is like, it is, it's sad, but it's crazy that like, it's a trend.

00:27:23.000 You know what I mean?

00:27:23.500 Like, that's why they're getting so many views on TikTok or Instagram or whatever they're

00:27:28.380 posting these things on.

00:27:29.940 It's like, it's a trend.

00:27:31.980 And yeah, you know, it's crazy.

00:27:34.860 Just a show of hands.

00:27:36.180 Who here wants to have kids one day? 1.00

00:27:39.060 More?

00:27:39.500 Yeah.

00:27:39.880 It's my third, but.

00:27:43.000 Besides Candice, does anyone here have kids?

00:27:45.820 I do.

00:27:46.260 You got kids?

00:27:46.800 How many?

00:27:47.320 I have a son.

00:27:48.680 He's 21.

00:27:49.600 Okay.

00:27:50.060 Gotcha.

00:27:50.620 He's perfect.

00:27:51.700 And I'm good.

00:27:52.920 Okay.

00:27:53.540 But one thing I notice, a trend, like I agree that it's a trend and she's doing that to

00:27:59.460 brand herself and go viral and get a lot of attention and maybe monetize that. 1.00

00:28:04.360 When I talk with other girls and they're younger and I'll say, are you married?

00:28:08.680 Are you planning on having children?

00:28:11.080 Sometimes that's a hot button for them.

00:28:13.060 And it's maybe perhaps, you know, these kind of trends are like the, it's a rebellious

00:28:19.420 thing because sometimes it's expected for, for people to, to get married out of the gate

00:28:25.140 and have children and that kind of traditional lifestyle.

00:28:28.100 If it's an expectation that parents have that they put on, on their children and younger 0.67

00:28:32.940 generations aren't having it, especially these days when it's so hard to, I mean, it's

00:28:38.200 so expensive.

00:28:38.780 People are having to work a lot, you know, I mean, that's just one thing I've noticed.

00:28:43.060 A little pushback on that question, even when I ask it.

00:28:46.020 And, and I love children.

00:28:47.800 Gotcha.

00:28:48.320 And did, I don't recall if you had a response to Candace or.

00:28:53.520 I mean, I was just going to say the opposite content does exist.

00:28:55.960 And I would say that it's more prevalent and usually there's more of it than there is the

00:29:00.820 opposite.

00:29:01.520 And whatever community she wants to represent, I think that somebody that is single and

00:29:05.480 obviously, like I said, she closed out the video saying, I know that women that are married 1.00

00:29:09.460 and have children can do all of these things as well, but this is what makes me feel better

00:29:12.760 because I'm not that far along.

00:29:14.520 And I think if she's giving comfort and solace to women that want to be in that position and

00:29:18.080 aren't quite there yet, whether you took it that way or not, I think that that's okay.

00:29:22.320 I don't think anything that she did in there was meant to be charitable.

00:29:24.780 It was all about her.

00:29:25.700 So, I mean, just a different, different interpretation.

00:29:28.140 But I'm just happy that you were honest and admitted that it is becoming trendy to put down

00:29:32.060 women. 0.81

00:29:32.540 It's like, yeah.

00:29:33.300 Yeah.

00:29:33.580 And, but by the way, speaking to what you were saying about it being an act of rebellion,

00:29:37.640 I used to be a feminist. 1.00

00:29:38.820 If you had found me, you're 22, right?

00:29:40.620 Found me at 22.

00:29:41.440 I would have probably had the same perspectives as you about family.

00:29:45.360 It is something different.

00:29:46.300 And you will realize that when it's someone that's 29 years old and saying that it's not

00:29:50.280 the same intention.

00:29:51.020 It's not, I'm young, I'm free, I'm wild, and I think I'm going to live forever.

00:29:54.400 What she's doing is something different.

00:29:56.420 And also just recently today, actually, Emily, Emma, Emma Roderick-Jakowski came out with a

00:30:01.540 quote about, I think getting divorced before you're 30 is chic.

00:30:04.440 That's something else.

00:30:05.500 And that a woman at 22, a woman at 29 saying something that is appropriate when you're at 0.84

00:30:11.180 21 or 22, it's a little different.

00:30:13.180 And she knew what she was doing.

00:30:14.360 It was intentional.

00:30:15.320 And like I said, if you look into our content, this is not some innocent woman that was posting

00:30:19.020 just to boost herself up on the internet.

00:30:20.880 She's trying to get clicks. 0.52

00:30:22.000 She's trying to get views. 0.89

00:30:22.840 And she got them, for better or worse.

00:30:26.200 I want to come back a little bit now to people's relationship status.

00:30:33.500 So, or not even so much relationship status, but perhaps it's related.

00:30:37.500 So, both of you do court, courtship, courtship, courtesan, that's an old-fashioned historical

00:30:50.980 term.

00:30:51.760 Okay.

00:30:51.920 Back in the day, courtesans were able to own property, whereas the Little Miss didn't 1.00

00:30:58.660 have that ability, the way the laws were written back in the day of ancient years.

00:31:04.280 Like, the wife was toddlerized. 0.88

00:31:07.160 And then the courtesans were able to go and attend the meetings with the politicians and 0.91

00:31:13.220 the business owners and actually state their case and be influential.

00:31:17.300 But, okay, so I'm just trying to differentiate here because courtesan, that's, when I think

00:31:24.180 of it, I think of people who are in the court, typically, there's a kingdom.

00:31:30.460 There's a kingdom, there's a monarch, and there's, you know, maybe some of them are dukes, maybe.

00:31:37.240 It's from that era.

00:31:38.420 There's viceroys.

00:31:39.840 There's some viceroys in there.

00:31:42.060 There's a couple of, I don't know, some other terms.

00:31:46.100 Lords.

00:31:47.460 Lords, ladies.

00:31:49.400 But, okay, so you guys work in Nevada, is that correct?

00:31:53.540 In, what's the place that you guys work at?

00:31:56.320 There's different brothels. 1.00

00:31:57.580 The Bunny Ranch, I've been at the Bunny Ranch.

00:32:00.120 We've both been there.

00:32:01.280 We've both worked at the world-famous Mustang.

00:32:04.240 Okay.

00:32:05.300 Those are more normal.

00:32:05.960 Oh, so you guys both don't work there, or you don't work there anymore.

00:32:08.900 Do you still work at the, what is it called, the Bunny Ranch?

00:32:11.440 So, hold on.

00:32:12.600 We're independent contractors.

00:32:14.500 Take your time.

00:32:15.260 So, like, when we're on tour, we contract ourselves out, you know, with whomever.

00:32:22.160 Okay.

00:32:22.520 So that might change.

00:32:23.840 Sure.

00:32:24.080 So, a couple questions here.

00:32:26.340 So, I don't know, maybe it's changed throughout the course of your life, but how many, maybe

00:32:33.660 you see men, maybe you see women, how many per day or per week, do you call them clients?

00:32:39.540 What do you call them?

00:32:40.440 Tricks?

00:32:40.940 Clients, friends.

00:32:41.960 No, not tricks.

00:32:42.520 Marks?

00:32:43.600 No.

00:32:44.200 No?

00:32:44.540 Okay.

00:32:44.800 I don't know.

00:32:45.240 I don't know the terminology.

00:32:46.520 I'm not in the world.

00:32:47.060 I mean, some providers may, but they're not maybe the most respectful.

00:32:50.760 I like to deem them friends as soon as I get to know them.

00:32:54.600 And we are, like, friends.

00:32:56.600 Sometimes we're, like, married couples.

00:32:58.320 But it can be, it depends.

00:33:01.900 Anywhere from, like, two to three a day, that's a lot.

00:33:06.560 Two to three a day.

00:33:07.140 Maybe five a week.

00:33:08.540 Okay.

00:33:09.700 What about you?

00:33:12.100 So, anywhere between two to three.

00:33:16.840 Oh, sorry.

00:33:17.580 It's fine.

00:33:17.880 Anywhere between two to three.

00:33:19.280 Okay.

00:33:20.200 And sometimes four or five, depending on.

00:33:23.860 Sure.

00:33:24.360 Per day.

00:33:25.060 Yes.

00:33:25.820 Do you know what the most is in one day?

00:33:29.520 Like, was there one day of this?

00:33:30.640 It always fluctuates.

00:33:31.740 Okay.

00:33:32.120 Is there ever, like, a ten?

00:33:33.840 A dozen?

00:33:35.180 I don't, yes.

00:33:35.960 I mean, yeah.

00:33:37.060 Baker's Cousin?

00:33:37.540 It can, it can happen.

00:33:40.600 Sure.

00:33:40.800 I don't personally do that.

00:33:41.940 When, coming off the heels of Dennis Hoff's cat house, there were, I mean, ten.

00:33:48.120 Hold, hold, hold, hold.

00:33:48.360 Nick, Nick, Nick.

00:33:48.820 Hide, hide, hide, hide, hide, hide.

00:33:59.120 Okay, cool.

00:33:59.780 Okay, we're fine.

00:34:00.500 We're fine.

00:34:01.100 Okay.

00:34:01.520 All right.

00:34:02.020 Good.

00:34:03.800 All right.

00:34:04.360 Welcome to the whatever podcast.

00:34:05.960 That's always something.

00:34:09.340 Where were we?

00:34:10.940 I was mentioning, after Dennis Hoff did his famous show, Cat House on HBO, he drummed up

00:34:18.660 a ton of mainstream media.

00:34:20.720 He got one of the girls on Oprah and whatnot.

00:34:23.300 There were so many people coming in.

00:34:25.140 Those were the days where maybe you'd be seeing, like, ten clients, twelve clients in a day.

00:34:30.360 Okay.

00:34:30.940 Gotcha.

00:34:31.180 That was, that was a lot.

00:34:32.520 Gotcha.

00:34:32.800 Gotcha.

00:34:33.060 And for, for you two, has, being involved in prostitution, has it had any impact when

00:34:40.900 it comes to your romantic prospects?

00:34:43.340 Yeah.

00:34:45.760 Yeah.

00:34:46.560 They've, I've got to be able to be, I've got to be able to be myself and fully disclose,

00:34:51.060 and I need that person to accept me for who I am.

00:34:54.240 Bottom line. 0.96

00:34:54.960 Um, I have had no issues doing, uh, being a legal prostitute.

00:35:04.000 Um, I've had no issues being a legal prostitute just because I haven't been dating anybody,

00:35:08.280 um, within this time for that year.

00:35:11.620 Mm-hmm.

00:35:11.920 Uh, as for everything else, um, it's hard dating, um, I've ran into a lot of insecure

00:35:19.760 men.

00:35:20.580 Typically, those are the ones that can't handle me doing what I do for work.

00:35:25.260 And, um.

00:35:27.040 Well, just a point of clarification.

00:35:28.500 So, you've run into a lot of insecure men, and are they insecure because they don't want 0.66

00:35:35.260 to date you because you are currently active as a prostitute? 1.00

00:35:38.200 No, I'm saying I've never dated a guy while I was, uh, working at the brothels at the 0.91

00:35:44.360 Bunny Ranch or the Mustang Ranch, but I've been dating guys, like, between me doing camming

00:35:49.400 and dancing, so that's what I'm talking about.

00:35:52.400 But you, you mentioned insecure men.

00:35:55.000 What, what make, what specifically are they doing that makes them insecure?

00:35:59.740 Is it because they're insecure about your work?

00:36:01.900 Yes, like, uh, I've had exes in the past that would cry about me going to work to dance

00:36:06.960 at the strip club.

00:36:08.480 Um, I've had guys try to control, like, what I wear and, uh, say that I can't work at strip

00:36:15.200 clubs or do OnlyFans or whatever.

00:36:18.080 Is it, oh, sorry, was there more?

00:36:19.960 No, and that's.

00:36:20.920 Okay, is it because they're insecure, or is that just them having boundaries and standards?

00:36:25.700 I feel like that's, I mean, you knew what I was doing before you met me, right?

00:36:32.300 Right, so all of them knew exactly what I was doing before they met me, which brings

00:36:37.520 it to, yeah, if you have a problem with what I do before you meet me, maybe don't get involved

00:36:42.540 with me.

00:36:43.300 Sure.

00:36:43.640 I'm very open.

00:36:44.620 I'm a very honest person.

00:36:46.700 Um, you knew what I was doing before you met me.

00:36:49.640 If you don't like it, there's the door.

00:36:52.860 Nobody's making you stay.

00:36:53.960 I think, too, um, gentlemen love the idea of dating us, and then once we go to do it,

00:37:00.700 then it's not really realistic.

00:37:03.160 Right, it's almost like fetish, fetish, fetish, right, it's like, oh, it's so hot, I have a

00:37:10.340 girlfriend that does this, that, and the other, and then when they're really at home and I'm

00:37:15.040 like on OnlyFans or on a call with a client or whatever, they're like, no, this is weird,

00:37:20.720 this is weird, you know what I mean?

00:37:21.980 And that, I think it's an insecurity, yes, because you knew where I was coming from, you

00:37:29.580 knew what I was doing, and you weren't okay with it, then you should have made that a point.

00:37:37.040 I mean, I suppose you have a point that, I mean, if they knew going in that you, this

00:37:41.820 is what you do for work, you're a stripper, or you're doing OnlyFans, or you're doing sex 1.00

00:37:46.360 work, then I think it's a little bit of a stretch that all of a sudden, a couple weeks

00:37:54.000 or months into a relationship, then they start changing up.

00:37:56.440 But I think to differentiate the conversation a little bit, for example, like let's say,

00:38:01.620 and I don't know if you mentioned this, when it comes to like posting, perhaps revealing

00:38:05.180 photos online, not intended for commercial, like they're just on Instagram, but they're

00:38:11.080 not monetizing it, they're not content creators, or like, for example, if they go to the bar,

00:38:17.140 club, party a lot, would you consider it insecure if a guy, maybe three months into a relationship,

00:38:25.000 at that point he started having issues with you or with another girl?

00:38:30.980 Well, hey, he started saying, hey, I don't, I don't want you to go in the clubs and bars

00:38:34.820 anymore, I don't want you to.

00:38:35.900 And he already knew?

00:38:37.140 You're saying he already knew this?

00:38:39.000 Well, like, I assume he knew, yeah.

00:38:43.260 So, if he already knew, then?

00:38:47.900 Well, I guess my framing is, prior to dating, he had no problem with you or with another girl

00:38:53.500 engaging in what he considered to be single behavior at the time.

00:38:57.340 But once you, or whoever it is, started dating, he wanted his partner to act in a way that

00:39:03.680 he thought was more consistent with being in a relationship.

00:39:07.140 So, perhaps it's okay to go out to, me personally, even if I'm single, I'm not really interested

00:39:11.700 in going to bars, clubs, and I don't post revealing photos online, but I don't know, I feel like

00:39:17.600 that men don't do that too much.

00:39:19.260 I mean, there's certainly men that post like, whatever, anyways.

00:39:21.160 But, once you get into the relationship, there's expectations that certain things change.

00:39:29.980 Well, with the sex worker?

00:39:31.780 Well, yeah, I mean, I'm just differentiating when it comes to like, posting, revealing

00:39:35.100 photos, if it's not for your work, or going to bars and clubs.

00:39:39.400 Then, yeah, like, I can separate my work identity from my personal life.

00:39:43.420 Go ahead, do you want to come in?

00:39:44.480 I think, I mean, if we're talking to somebody that's not a sex worker and is posting, revealing

00:39:48.080 photos, I think that that's something that you talk about before getting into a relationship

00:39:51.960 with somebody, because then, if you're talking, you know, and a guy is like, you know, my expectations

00:39:57.620 for my girlfriend are X, Y, Z.

00:39:59.500 I don't like these kind of revealing photos for my girlfriend.

00:40:02.380 I don't like you going out all the time.

00:40:04.720 And then, I think from then on, that's when you decide whether to make a relationship serious

00:40:07.920 or not, because if she doesn't want to restrict where she's going or what she's doing

00:40:12.000 or the type of photos she's posting for him, then that's her decision.

00:40:14.700 But I don't think that it's wrong for a partner to ask her, you know, hey, if we're in a relationship,

00:40:20.700 this is what I expect.

00:40:21.560 And then, you know, she makes the decision, yes, I will do those things or no.

00:40:24.720 But do you think that so early on, like, say, on the first date or second date, that there's

00:40:30.460 enough of a relationship established for a guy to have enough, I don't know if leverage

00:40:37.920 is the right word, but, like, enough pull or influence to be like, hey, listen, I don't

00:40:44.260 want you doing this anymore.

00:40:45.920 Absolutely not.

00:40:47.340 Absolutely not.

00:40:48.120 But that's, I mean, she just said that you should early on, you should say, I don't...

00:40:52.600 Early on, not date number one.

00:40:53.680 Date number one, not date number two.

00:40:56.600 That is wild.

00:40:56.920 I mean, okay, wait, wait, I think there's two things going on here.

00:41:01.420 I think you can date someone, and then as a relationship evolves and changes, some things

00:41:06.560 that you thought you were comfortable with, you're like, hey, I'm not really comfortable

00:41:09.700 with this anymore.

00:41:10.660 I think that's reasonable.

00:41:12.380 But I think that's very distinct than going into a relationship thinking, oh, I don't like

00:41:17.400 the fact that she posts these types of photos, I'm going to make her stop, you know, I'm going 1.00

00:41:20.720 to change her, basically.

00:41:22.140 Because you're setting up, I think, everyone for disappointment.

00:41:24.500 You're setting up yourself, her, there's a difference between going into something, having 0.78

00:41:28.920 feelings change, talking from there, and intentionally trying to change before you even date, really.

00:41:33.920 I have a question.

00:41:34.880 If you ever fell in love with somebody, would you be willing to delete all of your stuff

00:41:39.300 if they asked you?

00:41:40.360 Would I be?

00:41:41.580 Yes.

00:41:42.460 If you, as a sex worker and everything that you do, if you fell in love and you found

00:41:46.440 someone and they asked you to stop.

00:41:49.140 So with that being said, I am currently single because of what I do for work.

00:41:54.500 I am very much so busy doing my work and I am full throttle, like, wanting to make money

00:42:00.680 and capitalize off of this industry to the best of my ability and make it to the point

00:42:06.060 where I can retire.

00:42:08.060 And then it's like, also making this much money and doing what I do for work, it puts

00:42:12.340 me in a position to be able to meet the type of guys that I want to meet, right?

00:42:16.300 Um, the higher end type of guys.

00:42:19.060 And maybe later on down the line, not anytime yet, uh, I would be open to it.

00:42:25.980 If I find everything happens for a reason, you know, never say never, but like, if I

00:42:32.560 found Prince Charming or something one day and he didn't want me doing this anymore, like

00:42:39.440 the, or I wouldn't be doing this anyways.

00:42:41.940 I want to retire from it at one point.

00:42:44.320 And then, yeah, eventually maybe.

00:42:47.220 And when you say high end men, what do you mean by that?

00:42:49.900 Like, like high value men or men with a lot of money?

00:42:55.720 High value.

00:42:56.620 Okay.

00:42:57.600 I have a question for you two here.

00:43:00.080 Uh, so both of you do OnlyFans, having done OnlyFans, continuing to do OnlyFans, has it

00:43:07.480 had any negative impacts on your dating prospects?

00:43:11.400 Does it make it harder to date?

00:43:12.680 Has it been maybe non-issue at all?

00:43:15.240 Some guys like it.

00:43:18.220 I've never had an issue with it dating wise.

00:43:21.140 No one has ever, cause I'm very upfront too, you know, first date.

00:43:24.780 If this is what I do, if you don't like it, this is how I make my money.

00:43:27.920 Unless you're going to pay me the same amount of money I'm making, then I'm not going to

00:43:31.900 stop supporting myself.

00:43:33.700 Um, but yeah, I never really ran into issues, but again, I don't do full pornographic content

00:43:39.100 or anything like that.

00:43:40.040 So it probably is a little bit different for somebody on OnlyFans that does do that type

00:43:44.240 of content.

00:43:45.520 Um, but I personally have never ran into an issue.

00:43:48.200 My boyfriend at first was, you know, I told him and he was like, okay, well, if I'm going

00:43:52.260 to date you, I have to be okay with this.

00:43:53.880 And that was that.

00:43:54.680 And it's never been an issue.

00:43:55.660 Sorry, um, sorry, I was asking a question.

00:43:58.520 What kind of content do you do on OnlyFans?

00:44:00.340 Uh, mainly topless content.

00:44:01.860 Okay.

00:44:02.300 So you currently have a boyfriend?

00:44:03.740 Yes, I do.

00:44:04.340 Okay.

00:44:05.800 Just that's the extent of it.

00:44:07.900 Yes.

00:44:08.180 Okay.

00:44:08.980 What about you, Essie?

00:44:10.020 Um, I've also never had an issue, um, in my dating life.

00:44:13.940 I don't date that often though, but, uh.

00:44:15.360 Right, cause you've been single for six years.

00:44:17.000 Yeah.

00:44:17.020 But, but it might not necessarily be related to that.

00:44:21.540 You're now doing OnlyFans.

00:44:22.480 Yeah.

00:44:22.760 I also don't do, um, nudes on OnlyFans.

00:44:25.940 So it's just like lingerie content.

00:44:27.580 Oh, okay.

00:44:27.980 So I think that also maybe helps cause I, I, so.

00:44:31.080 Sure.

00:44:31.680 Yeah.

00:44:32.240 Okay.

00:44:32.900 Um, question here for Candace. 0.98

00:44:34.900 So, um, what are your thoughts on OnlyFans, uh, sex work?

00:44:41.800 And do you believe that, uh, a woman doing OnlyFans or porn might have an impact on her

00:44:47.340 future romantic prospects?

00:44:49.000 Uh, and if so, how and why?

00:44:50.680 I can repeat it.

00:44:51.600 That was a lot.

00:44:52.300 So let me know if you need me to repeat anything.

00:44:53.640 Um, I, I've talked about this extensively on my show.

00:44:56.220 I mean, the truth is that if you are going to engage in sex work, you are going to probably

00:45:01.400 make a lot of money, especially if you're young, um, you're on a very tight rope as

00:45:05.580 you get older, your value goes down and men are going to want women that are younger and

00:45:09.700 available to them.

00:45:10.840 Um, I'm talking about in terms of just making the person who will subscribe to your OnlyFans

00:45:14.940 page, you know, obviously women, it's, you're, you're declining as you age as, and, um, the 1.00

00:45:20.080 truth is, is that high value men don't want to date women that are sex workers or even

00:45:23.340 women that aren't sex workers and lean into the whole talking about how sexy and then 1.00

00:45:29.020 are really, are freely available on the internet for other men to see.

00:45:32.040 What we're talking about is biological proclivity.

00:45:35.100 Um, what men are doing when they first say, uh, ah, this sounds amazing. 0.91

00:45:39.080 Did you date a stripper or did you date a prostitute or did you date a sex worker? 0.99

00:45:41.900 Is there, there's this instinct to have sex. 0.99

00:45:44.260 It's going to be amazing. 0.93

00:45:44.900 We're going to have sex all the time. 0.98

00:45:46.020 But then when they realize that actually a form of wanting to be in a relationship is

00:45:50.520 feeling that there's a mystery to a woman, that there's something that's yours, there's

00:45:54.460 something that's sacred, there's something that's powerful and beautiful that just

00:45:57.440 do share. And when they realize that they have to share that with other men, it

00:46:00.840 completely diminishes the man. Um, a recent cultural example of that obviously is

00:46:05.240 what's happening with Nina Agdahl. Uh, she's not a sex worker by any means. 1.00

00:46:08.620 This is, she just kind of said some sexy things on the internet, um, about wanting 1.00

00:46:13.060 cock and look at what was not expecting that from Kansas. I'm just, I'm quoting 0.99

00:46:18.660 her directly. So this is purely academic, purely academic and look at what

00:46:24.460 happens. You know, now Logan has become the lot laughing stock of other men as

00:46:29.160 they piece together everything that she's ever said that's overtly sexual.

00:46:32.680 And again, she's not a sex worker, but what happened is her value just completely

00:46:35.920 plummeted because, uh, you know, they're this thing that men need to feel. Um, and I

00:46:43.080 don't want to say possession in a way that sounds bad because it's not bad.

00:46:46.580 It's actually really beautiful. Um, and I'm lucky and fortunate that I get to

00:46:52.240 experience that in my marriage, you know, and, and it's, it's something that women 1.00

00:46:55.700 should strive toward women that make those exchanges in their youth. I think

00:46:58.760 that's sad. And I do feel bad for me to Agdahl is because she said a lot of those

00:47:02.340 statements when she was really young. She's probably your age. Um, and she had a

00:47:06.300 camera and she said it and it lives forever. And now every man that she dates is

00:47:10.560 going to say Dylan Danis has made her available to everyone. And it's, it's, I hope

00:47:16.640 things work out between her and Logan, but if you don't think that that's going to

00:47:19.560 impact Logan or that's not actively impacting him as a man, it is. Um, so

00:47:25.080 with women, it's a trade-off. First thing you said was I make money. This is 1.00

00:47:28.980 about money. It's about money. But when it comes down to marrying these women, men, 0.65

00:47:33.040 men just don't want it. 0.94

00:47:33.860 And that's exactly why I said that in this industry, I'm single until I retire.

00:47:39.860 I don't, but it will still matter.

00:47:41.260 I don't plan on doing this or getting married or finding the love of my life

00:47:46.640 until I retire. Like truthfully. And then after that, you see what happens to

00:47:50.160 Nina Agdahl. No, no, no. And then after that, I will be honest and truthful with

00:47:54.100 the person that I will be getting married to or whatever. And it'll be up to him to

00:47:58.400 accept that. Right. So, and I'm just saying that men's natural proclivity is to not

00:48:03.400 accept that because it brings them shame. Um, men are biologically proud creatures.

00:48:09.100 I understand, but not everybody can be like that. No, I know. I'm not, I'm just telling

00:48:12.820 you what is happening and why people are talking about cultural events, Nina Agdahl thing. And

00:48:17.740 if you look at people like Emily Rajkowski, she's obviously hot. Um, but this is a woman 1.00

00:48:22.740 who's now trying to make divorce chic. And I think that the understanding is in Hollywood

00:48:26.980 is, you know, sleep with her and move on. She's not marriage material. Um, her husband,

00:48:31.660 when he had her cheated on her because they didn't have that thing. She was, I feel like

00:48:36.360 I've, I've slept with the girl. I've seen her naked so many times. Right. So there's 1.00

00:48:39.500 nothing special about Sebastian bear marrying her because we've all seen her

00:48:42.620 naked. There's nothing sacred in that relationship. And I'm just speaking on

00:48:47.720 telling you, you know, this is why women struggle to get married when they've made 1.00

00:48:52.880 themselves available on only fans because other men don't want to share. They

00:48:57.080 don't want to share their wife. They maybe will share their girlfriend. They might 0.98

00:48:59.540 think it's fun to date a stripper for a little bit. They might think, Oh, this means 1.00

00:49:02.340 I'm going to have sex 12 times a day. But then when it gets down to just their 0.55

00:49:06.340 biological instinct, it's, it's actually quite embarrassing for them as a man

00:49:09.920 because they can look up your girl and here she is, you know? So that's what I

00:49:14.620 think is happening. Yeah. I'm, um, I'm just curious about your opinion on this

00:49:18.800 because I've seen like a couple of people in like Red Spill spaces, like

00:49:22.300 Tate's or people similar to that talking about how they should marry a young 0.92

00:49:27.020 woman. Would you agree or disagree that that might not be the most like

00:49:31.040 rational course of action? To marry a young woman? What do you mean by that? 0.87

00:49:34.600 Yes. That I hear a lot of men talk about how a woman inherently loses value as she

00:49:39.440 gets older. And that's why that they should seek out young women. 1.00

00:49:42.720 Um, well, I live in the South and a lot of people get married young and I think

00:49:46.420 it's really beautiful and wonderful. They're, they preserve this sort of

00:49:48.880 innocence. I have people that work for me that want to get married at 22. They drop

00:49:52.560 out of school. So I don't think there's anything wrong with marrying when you're

00:49:55.960 young. Um, I'd have to see the full context of what they're talking about because I do

00:50:00.640 think obviously the longer you wait and especially in this society that's creating

00:50:05.860 the simulation that sexuality equates to freedom when it doesn't, um, that what he 0.62

00:50:10.400 might be suggesting is that the longer a woman runs free, the more partners that 1.00

00:50:14.880 she's gathering and her, her worth is being diminished. And I think that there is

00:50:18.580 some veracity to that. Um, but you know, if it's said in a way that sounds a little

00:50:22.960 crass, like seek out younger women because they're not as used and I can see why people 1.00

00:50:26.320 would be offended by it, but there that might be underpinned by a little bit of

00:50:29.980 logic. So I'd have to see the clip in its entirety. Yeah. The reason why I'm

00:50:33.460 asking is because in general, I think, um, men do have a biological

00:50:37.360 proclivity, proclivity, I can't pronounce that word. Proclivity. Um, you

00:50:41.620 know, to seek out like youth and beauty. But I also think when it comes to like

00:50:44.820 settle down, um, you want a mother who's going to be responsible and good 1.00

00:50:49.260 towards her children. So I think the idea that like men seek out beauty is true, but I

00:50:54.400 also think men seek out a level of like responsibility and maturity that only comes

00:50:58.340 with age. So I was just curious because of the other stuff I've heard from people.

00:51:02.080 And also it's like, they, sex is just sex. Like it's just sex. 0.96

00:51:09.000 Huh? And when you have a partner, you have an emotional connection with them. And so

00:51:16.920 like the guy on your last podcast, the, he was on here a few days ago, he was saying 0.99

00:51:22.020 how like men for men, sex is just sex. But like spending time with a woman and like 0.97

00:51:28.740 buying her things and like going on trips with her is like different than having sex 0.66

00:51:35.460 with just random people. And that's why they were like in an open relationship or

00:51:40.080 whatever.

00:51:40.240 Can I just have you scoot your mic that way a little bit?

00:51:42.460 Yeah, perfect.

00:51:43.240 I mean, I definitely wouldn't say that like swapping DNA is like just sex. I mean, a man

00:51:48.120 leaves a piece of himself inside of you, but man, that's the way they think. And like

00:51:52.340 for women, we get attached to them emotionally having sex with them, which is why it's more 1.00

00:51:58.700 of a, when women have a lot of partners, it's, it is different. It's, it's, it is worse in 0.96

00:52:05.240 a way. And people don't want to admit that, but because we are more emotional, there is an

00:52:09.560 attachment. It isn't just sex for women. Um, you know, I think women are damaged by those 1.00

00:52:15.320 relationships. Um, women like to think because of the social simulation that it can just be 1.00

00:52:20.860 sex. It's whatever non-committal. The only people that benefit from that lie are men.

00:52:26.020 You know, it, it is not great to have sex and have a man not call you back. It doesn't feel

00:52:30.900 good. It doesn't matter if a Buzzfeed article says it does. I had a wonderful weekend and

00:52:34.580 this is why I had sex and didn't worry about it. You feel used. And especially I would say 0.99

00:52:40.840 if you're not a sex worker and you're, you just, a man does that and never calls you back

00:52:44.760 and you don't even have money to show for it. I think it diminishes your, your self-worth

00:52:49.620 even more than your worth to a man.

00:52:51.740 The reason why I say sex is just sex is because in our line of work, we see it as transactional,

00:52:58.140 right? Especially when we're working. And then at the end of the day, they go home to their

00:53:02.640 wives or whatever. Right. And it's like emotionally, you're emotionally being there for them and

00:53:09.480 taking care of them and doing all this, that or the other. So then sex clearly isn't just

00:53:13.620 sex. It's also emotional. It can be. Yeah, it can be. Yes. But I was saying, according to

00:53:20.100 the guy that he had on the last podcast, he said that for men, um, sex is just sex and

00:53:25.760 that I kind of, sorry, I disagree with the idea that sex doesn't harm or casual sex wouldn't 0.64

00:53:31.760 harm a man or does harm women or that sex is just sex. I think a lot of people tell themselves

00:53:35.920 that, but I think it can like lead to a lifestyle of just like pure hedonism, whether you're

00:53:40.760 like a man or a woman. And that can be like dangerous because then you're losing, you know,

00:53:45.120 sight of other things that you value or other aspects of life. So I don't really think like

00:53:49.260 for, I think for some people that can be true, but I think for the majority of people, like

00:53:53.640 there's a reason why a lot of people are only into monogamy or why that's been like the

00:53:57.260 norm for a lot of cultures. And I think most people are a little bit hardwired to kind of

00:54:01.600 seek out those intimate relationships. And I'm not saying it's impossible. I'm like, I'm

00:54:05.320 just saying, I think that's how most people are where casual sex can be. Yeah. And I

00:54:09.100 think it can definitely be harmful for men. I want to be clear. I I'm saying that it's

00:54:12.860 different for men and it's different for women, but I don't agree with the statement

00:54:15.840 sex is sex. It's just sex at all. And it's natural to be like attracted to a lot of different

00:54:22.240 people. You know what I mean? So it's like, but that comes with self-control. I think

00:54:27.960 attraction is one thing and acting on those needs or wants by sleeping with multiple people

00:54:34.400 to, I just, I don't understand that.

00:54:38.020 Did you want to come in on this?

00:54:40.040 I guess I don't, what do you mean?

00:54:41.320 Like I don't understand why would you.

00:54:42.260 Well, not in response to her, but just the.

00:54:44.280 In general?

00:54:44.800 Yeah.

00:54:45.420 I mean, I don't necessarily agree with the idea that sex is just sex. When I was younger,

00:54:49.820 I definitely had a lot more, you know, like casual sexual relationships, not one night

00:54:54.200 stands or anything by that measure, more like situationship. And as I got older, you know,

00:54:59.860 my views on it kind of changed and, you know, you do feel differently when, like you were

00:55:03.500 saying, it doesn't feel good to hook up with somebody and not have them call you back.

00:55:06.560 So I actually was celibate for about two years before I met my partner, doing OnlyFans and

00:55:11.500 everything else.

00:55:11.920 Your current partner.

00:55:12.720 Yes.

00:55:12.900 Okay.

00:55:13.400 I wasn't sleeping with anybody. I like stuck to it very hard because I just didn't really

00:55:18.080 like the feeling of sleeping with somebody and then getting an emotional attachment to

00:55:21.560 them. So I, I think that certain people, because everybody is different, I don't think that

00:55:27.160 it's that black and white. Um, but I think to some people and to some women and to some

00:55:31.700 men, casual sex really is just sex, whether they're leaving DNA or not. I think that there

00:55:35.820 are people that do actually feel that way. Cause I've met women that are like that, but

00:55:39.920 for me, it is not that simple. And I don't think that it's that simple for most women. 0.91

00:55:44.280 Can I raise a possibility just because it's something that I've sort of seen? Um, so I

00:55:52.780 do think it's possible that for some people, sex may be detached from romantic emotions with

00:56:00.120 that person. But I do think there may always still be an underlining part, an underlining

00:56:06.360 psychological part there of at least an ego boost, at least some sort of like grab for

00:56:12.280 validation, some sort of grab for emotional intimacy. Even if you're telling yourself,

00:56:19.160 I'm just doing this because having casual sex is empowering and sex is just sex. I think 0.99

00:56:25.520 even in most of the cases where that's where people genuinely believe they're just having

00:56:28.820 sex because it's sex. If they ask themselves a little further, why am I really doing this?

00:56:35.660 Is it just for, is it perhaps just, you know, to placate my ego or for some sort of male validation

00:56:40.720 or for some sort of like intimacy or connection? Cause I, maybe I'm not getting it romantically

00:56:45.600 otherwise. Um, and more in a more like serious relationship. I am, um, I would also press for

00:56:53.400 that as a possibility, even in those cases of people who genuinely do think for themselves

00:56:58.020 that it is sex is just sex.

00:56:59.600 Well, I mean, I guess we can look to the people that do it professionally. I mean,

00:57:02.900 do you feel that there's some underlying male validation in your work or no?

00:57:06.380 I find it very meaningful. I find it meaningful when couples come in and they want to work

00:57:11.260 on something, they're working on a goal. Maybe he's got a mental block and we're working on that.

00:57:16.460 Um, the gentleman that comes in, that's having issues with erectile dysfunction and he's trying

00:57:21.420 to troubleshoot that and we, and we actually create success for him. Um, it's, it's meaningful to me.

00:57:28.300 Wait, just one point of clarification. So you're, you're a sex therapist?

00:57:31.900 As, as sex workers, we're basically sex. I mean, I, I don't have a counseling degree. I have,

00:57:38.380 I have a master's degree in education. We have an article. You recently kind of went viral. Uh,

00:57:43.420 Nick, can you pull up the article? Like I, New York post, um, uh, New York post. I'm a sex therapist.

00:57:53.020 I sleep with clients to save marriages. They went crazy. Did you, you reacted to this? 0.98

00:58:01.660 I almost did, but I'm here. You're here now. Uh, can you, can you pull up the article really quick?

00:58:07.420 Yeah. One more. Uh, sex therapist, Olivia Bentley, wait, wait, takes a hands-on approach with her 1.00

00:58:15.660 clients by sleeping with them. I've saved marriages. The Boise, Idaho native told Kennedy news, calling her

00:58:21.740 life, her work life-changing. I get physically involved with the majority of the people I see.

00:58:25.820 I think that's part of the appeal. The veteran sex worker who spent 15 years in the industry

00:58:29.420 claims that women have asked her to demonstrate sex acts on their husbands while some wives grant 0.99

00:58:34.300 their eager hubbies a hall pass to pay Bentley a visit. Um, good times. Yeah. Is that pretty accurate?

00:58:43.180 I mean, so you, so you save marriages by having sex with the husband? Well, I think the, the tabloids 0.52

00:58:50.860 went a little crazy with the whole, you know, but New York post is known to, uh, yeah. Okay. Uh, they

00:58:56.620 really, you know, went wild with it, but, um, I do help a lot of couples that come in. Um, one right now

00:59:03.660 is asking me to, to lend a hand and he's more of a beta and she'd like him to be more of an alpha. And she

00:59:10.300 wants me to work with him on, on being more just outwardly in control and aggressive in the bedroom,

00:59:16.540 things like that. Um, there's, there's a lot of different psychological needs and reasons why

00:59:22.220 people would want to come and work with professional sex worker. Sure. Uh, Candace, 1.00

00:59:26.860 it sounded like, seemed like maybe you had something. I think it's the most outrageous thing I've ever heard.

00:59:31.740 It, it, it, it's so in the realm of like dragons and mystic, mythical creatures that it's, mythological

00:59:41.260 creatures that it's, it's hard to respond to the idea that she's saving marriages. Um, it's just,

00:59:48.620 there. You're in disbelief. I'm actually in utter disbelief that she is saving marriages. Here's another

00:59:55.340 example. Sure. So like, and this has been, there's multiple, um, clients that do this where the wife

01:00:02.220 will not have sex anymore. She went and said, look, I, um, you know, during the, when they were

01:00:08.060 courting each other, she was down for sex. She was a sexual person. She was all about it. Then let's 0.99

01:00:13.580 fast forward. They're married. We're married now contract solidified. I don't want to have sex anymore.

01:00:19.900 Ew. Oral sex is gross. Oh, that's demeaning if you're asking me to do that. So you're not saving 1.00

01:00:26.540 marriages. You're helping people to keep up a farce that they are in a marriage. Because at the

01:00:30.060 very moment that you let someone else into your marriage, it's no longer a marriage. No. Yeah.

01:00:33.580 And these women have turned around and said, I will allow you to see a professional. So they are not

01:00:39.660 in a marriage. That's the point. As soon as you lend your spouse out. Some of their wives are like dying 1.00

01:00:44.300 from cancer and this, that, and the other. If I'm dying from cancer and my husband goes to sleep

01:00:49.740 with somebody else, it's sort of gone. Hold on. Just one at a time, please. Um,

01:00:56.220 Candace, were you, I just would like to make the point that at the very moment that you loan your

01:01:00.860 spouse out, especially if you're dying of cancer so they can get, you know, get off, you're no longer 0.76

01:01:06.460 in a marriage. So it's just a farce. It's like when you, it's a comical, you're pretending for people

01:01:10.620 that you're in a marriage, that you're in a loving relationship. That's not what a marriage is.

01:01:14.060 So to say that I help marriages, no, you help destroy marriages and they can go out and say

01:01:18.620 that we're still married because what we've done is we've essentially said, you take care of this

01:01:23.820 aspect of the marriage. It's like saying you raise the kids, you have sex with him. This isn't a 0.94

01:01:28.300 marriage. It's the whole thing is fake, right? What do you think that they should do?

01:01:31.740 I'll bring you in next. What do you think that they, they should work on their marriage together. 0.98

01:01:35.900 The union between a husband and a wife should work on their marriage together to fix it. You don't 0.99

01:01:40.140 bring out an outside person to sleep with your husband or your wife. But if she's saying,

01:01:43.100 I'm not down for sex and she might be down for a divorce. I want to outsource the sex. 1.00

01:01:47.420 What if she's going to die from cancer and she wanted him and she allowed him to do that because

01:01:53.260 he needed to get off some way or she, while he was, while she was dying of cancer, one of the last

01:01:57.980 things on her mind was. This is a real life. This is a real life. This is a real life.

01:02:03.500 Uh, yeah, this was a real, I'm asking you. Is that what he told you? Yeah. So his wife

01:02:07.740 that's dying of cancer wanted him to come have sex with you? Not with me. One of like, this is 1.00

01:02:13.020 from what I've heard. Yes. Somebody told you that, that there's that as a dying wish.

01:02:16.700 My dying wife said, please go have sex with a prostitute at a brothel. I saw it on TikTok. 1.00

01:02:21.020 I'm just going to call bullshit on that altogether. No, because it does happen. 0.96

01:02:24.540 I just don't think when you're dying of cancer, going through leukemia. People will literally

01:02:27.740 bring their guys here. Please bring them on the podcast. I just want to say,

01:02:31.820 go ahead. It's an absurd scenario I've ever heard in my life. There's a lot of crazy

01:02:35.980 shit. There's marriage counseling where they can take you through sex therapy, where you don't 1.00

01:02:40.620 have to sleep with somebody else. If it's about a woman not wanting to have sex anymore, 1.00

01:02:44.140 what's the underlying reason? Are hormones messed up so she's not wanting to be sexually active? 1.00

01:02:48.860 Is there not enough foreplay when they're having sex? Like there's other avenues you can take for

01:02:53.180 sex therapy. Yeah, there's like normal couples counselors. Yeah, real couples counseling, where you try to

01:02:57.580 solve the problem and you release it and you don't just source it out to a prostitute. 0.98

01:03:02.140 Go ahead. The cancer thing is crazy. 0.99

01:03:05.340 The cancer thing is crazy. But outside of that, I don't think that it's up to any of us what

01:03:11.580 constitutes a marriage because every relationship is different. The Bible. If a husband, okay. 0.85

01:03:16.220 His words have meaning. But not everyone is religious. Well, wait, hold on. Is that a cross

01:03:20.540 necklace? It doesn't constitute, like what do you mean? Okay, really quick. Not everybody's religious.

01:03:24.540 We're talking about religion really quick. Okay, you have a cross necklace, but then your shirt says

01:03:29.020 made in hell. Yes, it does. I'm a little confused. I'm a little confused. Can you,

01:03:33.660 I'm a little confused. The stone is red, so it matched, you know.

01:03:38.700 Why are you wearing a cross on your neck? Are you color coordinating with your neck?

01:03:41.340 Because I don't see a cross as religious, so. Okay. I feel like you don't see a marriage as

01:03:45.020 religious. I don't think that a marriage has a meaning. This is why it's like people are out of 0.67

01:03:48.700 stage. People are like, what is a woman? Because they just go, well, we're going to call it a marriage, 0.96

01:03:51.820 but we're going to sleep with other people. We're going to bring in prostitutes. We're going to 1.00

01:03:54.460 outsource raising the kids, or we're never going to have kids. You're calling it a family. It's not

01:03:58.140 a family. And this is what it is. They just, the words have no meaning, right? I'm wearing the cross.

01:04:02.060 Why? I don't know. I don't, I don't think of it as religious. Okay. Well, Jesus Christ died on the

01:04:05.660 cross. You think that. That's what you think. It's been proven. So why are you wearing the cross?

01:04:10.220 Because I think it's cute. Because I think it's cute. You just think that the design is cute.

01:04:12.780 Yeah. Wait, wait, wait, really quick. I grew up like I was religious and I'm not anymore. I don't

01:04:17.180 have to believe in what you believe. And I can say that if somebody. I didn't say you had to leave.

01:04:20.700 I asked you a question. I said, why are you wearing the cross? Okay. And you're saying that the

01:04:24.300 religious aspect of marriage is the only thing that matters. It's not because people don't follow

01:04:28.220 what you believe. Okay. I asked you why you're wearing the cross and you said because you thought it

01:04:31.740 was cute. Yeah. I'm glad we got an answer. She's wearing the cross around her neck because she thinks it's cute.

01:04:36.940 I do. I'm not religious. Would you also wear like a Star of David? It's cute.

01:04:40.780 Well, because if it was cute, would you wear it? Well, okay. Well, I don't know where we're going.

01:04:44.140 I'm asking that because I wonder, like, my guess is that you would think that maybe you wouldn't

01:04:49.020 wear a Star of David because you're like, oh, this is maybe like disrespectful to people who are Jewish.

01:04:52.940 Are you making the argument? Maybe, I mean. No, I'm just. It's a very good question.

01:04:57.740 I'm just saying. Devil's advocate here. Secular argument. Someone might just say that the cross is just, 0.64

01:05:03.420 maybe it's more aesthetically pleasing even for an atheist. I don't know. Sure, but livers are all 1.00

01:05:09.500 about like having respect and tolerance. So I'm just like wondering if you think it's. I'm asking if

01:05:14.220 you wear a yarmulke. I think those are very different things. Oh, are you talking like blasphemy?

01:05:17.260 Why is the cross different from the yarmulke? I'm just, I mean, I was raised Catholic and I,

01:05:21.100 that's just not the thing that I believe anymore. Would you wear a yarmulke if you thought it was cute?

01:05:23.260 No, I wouldn't. I mean, a yarmulke is completely different than a cross that's been adapted.

01:05:25.420 You can buy a cross necklace anywhere. The argument of why it's different basically would come down to

01:05:34.140 like how Catholicism has been practiced versus Judaism in the sense that like Catholics did 1.00

01:05:38.300 use the cross symbol, tried to place like an indigenous populations, tried to spread it as 0.79

01:05:42.460 much as possible. And that's why in modern day, a lot of people think that's like more okay because

01:05:47.340 it was meant to be popularized. It was meant to be a symbol that the masses should look up to and

01:05:52.940 should see in general versus Jewish symbols. Okay. I would argue didn't go through that.

01:05:57.740 I think we're kind of derailing a little bit. Yeah. You wanted to come in and go ahead.

01:06:00.700 Yes. So back to the interesting brothel stories. I wanted to say, uh, we do actually have men 0.98

01:06:06.860 coming in with their parents. Yeah. This actually happens. So I had a time where

01:06:15.420 a guy came in with both his parents all the way from England to come to the Mustang ranch because he 1.00

01:06:22.780 wanted to lose his virginity and his parents paid for him to have sex with legal prostitutes. 0.99

01:06:37.820 I want your stance on that because what's your stance on that? 0.99

01:06:41.580 And if I may, and wait, now, can I just say that for me, I enjoyed the experience sex workers,

01:06:47.420 not prostitutes. Yeah. Wait, I'm sorry. She said prostitute. Yeah. It's because they keep, 0.81

01:06:52.700 yeah, prostitutes a little bit more question. Is it like a, well, she said that she said legal 1.00

01:07:00.140 prostitute is prop. I don't want to offend anybody. Is prostituted like a, it's old school. It's still on 0.95

01:07:05.500 the books, like on Nevada's books, but like the, the hipper, the hipper way to say it is sex worker. 1.00

01:07:12.220 But here's the thing with sex workers. Personally, that can me, you can call me a legal prostitute. 0.99

01:07:17.740 Yeah. I got you. Um, but the, the thing with the term sex worker is that is such a broad, 0.99

01:07:25.100 it includes strippers. It includes women who take, uh, lingerie photos who aren't naked. Um, wait,

01:07:31.740 question. Stewart is stewardess. Okay. Cause you're a flight attendant. So I'm just curious.

01:07:36.060 It's not the term that we would be offended. If someone referred to you as a stewardess,

01:07:39.980 you get any older, older people do all the time. Doesn't, doesn't bother you. No. Okay. All right.

01:07:44.620 Just curious. Just want to make sure since we're, yeah. Okay. It's not a big deal. Earlier. It was

01:07:49.580 like talked about like how, you know, sleeping or letting your husband or wife sleep with someone

01:07:54.140 else is like irresponsible or it's not a marriage anymore. Like I'd be kind of curious of what you believe

01:07:58.940 of responsible marriage is like, or I understand that you have a religious view on marriage,

01:08:03.500 but when I think about marriage, I think like I could see somebody saying they're married. If

01:08:07.980 it's like completely romantic, like you're not allowed to do romance with anyone else.

01:08:11.900 Like basically what does responsible marriage mean to you? Marriage is not just a contract. Like

01:08:16.860 it wasn't just like the government came up with the contract people to get married. You know,

01:08:20.140 the history of marriage, you can't separate that from the church. The problem is people are trying to

01:08:24.540 make things cool and trying to update and make them modern. And now people are saying you can have a

01:08:28.620 polygamous marriage and you can bring in other people on the outside of a marriage. What's the

01:08:32.300 point of getting married? Literally, I'd like to ask the question. If you think that you can,

01:08:37.020 if you want to marry somebody and then outsource the sex, you know, outsource the responsibility,

01:08:43.340 outsource what the labor of love is actually supposed to be about. Why not just stay single?

01:08:47.980 So you wouldn't do a threesome with your husband? Absolutely not. Because he's my husband.

01:08:52.940 Do you believe you have to ask that to get the answer? I mean, there's married couples that want to have

01:08:58.460 threesome and some of these ladies are bi-curious. And you should jump into those 1.00

01:09:02.140 Reddit threads because every single time that marriage ends in divorce, there's so many Reddit

01:09:06.380 threads. No, they don't. And a lot of them actually do really well too. I have regulars of over five

01:09:10.460 years. Okay. There's some that do really well. Do you believe atheists can get married? I think 1.00

01:09:15.260 atheists get married because they want a tax break. I don't see the point in an atheist getting married. 1.00

01:09:19.500 Why don't you just live with your partner? Okay. Whatever it is that you're dating,

01:09:22.860 you're at the stage you said, I don't know if you live with your boyfriend or whatever it is.

01:09:25.980 Why take the next leap? If you're wearing crosses for fun and, you know,

01:09:30.300 I mean, if you're actually asking the question, I mean, because then I would just be pledging the

01:09:34.860 fact that I would want to be with them forever. I don't really, you can just be with them forever.

01:09:38.300 So why, what is it that you crave that when you, when you want to get married, what's that next step

01:09:42.220 for you? What does it mean? What's the difference between dating and marriage? Because it's a commitment.

01:09:45.660 It's dating, not a commitment. It's a commitment, but it's saying it's solidifying it. Okay.

01:09:50.700 It's solidifying what? Because it's solidifying a bond between two people that love each other.

01:09:53.980 Okay. But what is solidified? If you can then jump into that next commitment,

01:09:58.140 which is the exact same as dating and you can sleep with other people and you can put topless

01:10:02.220 photos on the internet, what are you getting married for? Pictures on Instagram to say you did

01:10:06.300 it? I mean, I'm not sleeping with other people. What's the difference for you between dating and

01:10:10.380 marriage? I just told you it's a bond between two people. You're solidifying that by law.

01:10:13.980 You're literally making it known. I want to be with this person forever. It isn't just a simple

01:10:17.500 breakup. Oh, I can go and do whatever the fuck I want and leave. It's a partnership. It's a bond. 0.99

01:10:21.340 It's forever. But there's no difference between dating and marriage other than the idea in your

01:10:25.580 head that it's a bond because you're saying also- But it's not an idea in my head. It's on paper.

01:10:29.660 Okay. It's the paper. And that was the point I would make it. It's a piece of paper.

01:10:32.060 But I'm saying it's not a tax break. It's a legal thing. I'm connecting to somebody for the rest of

01:10:36.300 my life. Yeah. Well, I think for people that think about marriage and don't think about a cross as

01:10:41.100 something funsy to wear, it's not a piece of paper. It is a union between a man and a woman,

01:10:47.980 a sacred union that should be protected from external forces. Definitely not something that

01:10:52.860 you open up. I would feel disgusting if my husband ever came to me and said,

01:10:57.260 I want you to sleep with another man or sleep with another woman so that I can fill my sexual 1.00

01:11:02.300 fetish. I mean, it's an utter perversion of what it means to be married. And it will lead to divorces. 1.00

01:11:09.260 People that have this perspective will, and I'm not saying that if you don't do it, you won't get

01:11:13.500 divorced 100%. But I do want to say that there is probably a reason that a lot of sex workers

01:11:22.380 struggle to find people that want to marry them. Well, can I say a lot of the perversion that comes

01:11:27.980 if you are not going to be acceptant with your partner, if he comes to you and is like, hey,

01:11:32.780 uh, I really like getting pegged. I want you to peg me. And you're like, ew, that's so disgusting.

01:11:38.940 Like, I would never do that. You want me to eat your ass? I would never do that. Well then, 1.00

01:11:44.620 okay, what are you going to do? Divorce him? Or what are you going to do? Realistically,

01:11:48.620 I'm asking you and I'm asking, hold on. I really want to, I want to know, what are you going to do?

01:11:53.100 That's your husband. He's like, hey babe. I think one of the things about marriage

01:11:56.380 that's really beautiful is I know what my, my husband before we got married, I think I, I know

01:12:01.580 who he is. But things change and maybe he wants to start exploring. He wants to start doing what?

01:12:05.420 Uh, so say, so he wants to start exploring and he's like, oh my gosh, maybe I do want you to like 1.00

01:12:10.380 eat, eat my ass. And I kind of, and I kind of want you to peg me. Like I'm kind of, 0.99

01:12:15.660 I kind of want anal penetration from you because you're my wife and you're so beautiful and hot 1.00

01:12:20.460 and we're married and we have kids together and I'm, and I'm feeling a little bit kinky. And I, 1.00

01:12:24.460 with you, since we have this special marriage and bond, how would you feel if we could just try this

01:12:29.660 out? Just this one time, babe, please. I think it would probably indicate to me that my husband

01:12:33.660 was involved in some perverse world, whether it was through pornography, that something else was

01:12:38.620 happening on the side, because these aren't normal things that people just think of when they wake

01:12:42.300 up. So what's your next move? Like, hey, I'd really like a strap on dildo. Okay. Right.

01:12:45.180 So what's your next move? What's the ultimatum? He's going to divorce me if I don't peg him.

01:12:50.700 Uh, I would think that that individual would probably need therapy and not the kind that you give.

01:12:55.900 Okay. And, but, but you're going to stay with this person? You don't, you don't immediately

01:12:59.980 divorce. Okay. Marriage is about working through issues and working through problems. You don't 0.67

01:13:04.060 immediately divorce them. And this gets back to what she was saying about if your husband, if

01:13:07.900 suddenly a woman doesn't want to have sex, which would be another huge issue in a relationship, 1.00

01:13:11.660 I would hope that my husband wouldn't instantly divorce me, but I would hope that they would take

01:13:15.260 Well, some guys are terrified of that. And some guys don't even feel like they can open up to their

01:13:19.180 wives about that, about that. Sounds like they need therapy. Yeah. You got to work on your marriage. 1.00

01:13:25.100 But the thing is, is that they'll come to us talking to us about that. You know what I mean?

01:13:30.300 So it's just like, I don't know. And I think that that's unhealthy. And I think that, you know,

01:13:34.540 the fact that sex workers exist as this, what you believe to be a solution when in fact that's a

01:13:40.780 detriment because you're getting in the way of the wife and the husband being able to communicate.

01:13:44.700 Um, and so I would much rather my husband go, if there was an issue and your wife's not having

01:13:49.980 sex, I'd rather him go talk to a priest. I'd rather him go talk to another male when males sit down and 0.81

01:13:54.940 talk about, Hey man, you should talk to her about this. I'd rather him, no, let me finish my statement.

01:13:59.420 I'd rather him, what do you mean bros talking to each other about things? That's a normal,

01:14:03.420 I'd rather if I have an issue of my, it's pretty normal. I'd rather go talk to my sisters about

01:14:07.980 things that are going on. There's a lot of steps you can take before you talk to a prostitute 1.00

01:14:12.460 about your marriage. I just, maybe I'm crazy. Maybe I live in such a crazy. 0.99

01:14:15.260 Well, I'm saying what man is willing to do that?

01:14:16.940 I don't know. I turn on a Taylor Swift song, cry a little bit in my room. I don't know. There's a

01:14:21.980 lot. I would turn to Taylor Swift before I would go to a prostitute about my marriage. 1.00

01:14:26.060 I know, but you're not a male. So I'm just saying like, 0.98

01:14:27.980 Men can talk to other, what are you talking about? There's all of these podcasts of men talking,

01:14:33.020 you know, talking to men and being inspirational and talking about porn addiction and talking about the

01:14:37.420 things that are, are, are corrupting men's minds that's out there.

01:14:40.700 Okay. And those are, those are, I would much rather my husband listen to those men

01:14:44.460 and look for guidance, whether it's in the church, whether it's on a podcast, 1.00

01:14:47.900 whether it's a spiritual leader, then to turn to a prostitute in a brothel. 1.00

01:14:51.020 I hear you. 0.99

01:14:51.660 So there's a lot of steps that you can take from we're having an issue in our marriage 0.92

01:14:56.540 to my husband's at a brothel laying next to a prostitute talking about issues in my marriage.

01:15:00.140 Actually, let me, let me just step in really quick. I do think though, I would like to redirect 0.67

01:15:04.940 the conversation because I do think it's probably a very small portion of people who are married

01:15:11.020 are seeking to bring in a prostitute to, for the husband. It just seems like such a small 0.61

01:15:20.300 kind of, I don't know. What's that really quick?

01:15:22.220 Uh, statistically married men are actually the highest number of clientele for prostitutes. 0.80

01:15:26.460 Yes. And that's why I'm saying, please listen for me. I'm literally telling you guys,

01:15:31.420 males come to us and say all this stuff, which is like, they're first scared of you guys because 0.59

01:15:36.780 how you might react to, they feel like they can't be honest and open with you guys. That's why they

01:15:41.900 result in coming to places.

01:15:43.420 Just so you guys know that statistic doesn't mean that the majority of married men go to

01:15:46.540 prostitutes. 0.73

01:15:47.020 I didn't say that. 1.00

01:15:47.740 No, I know. I'm just letting her know because she said like, yes, like it was, if it was a debunk.

01:15:50.620 No, no, no, no, no.

01:15:51.900 The majority of married men don't turn to prostitutes. So they might be a law contingent

01:15:56.780 and they might be majority married.

01:15:58.300 That's what I'm saying.

01:15:58.940 Yeah, I get that.

01:15:59.740 Okay.

01:16:00.060 I think that's a good reason to have, um, I guess to, on that point of like,

01:16:05.500 something was brought up earlier about like, what is like a responsible marriage to you? So part of

01:16:09.660 being a good partner as like a wife or a girlfriend to whoever you're with is making them feel

01:16:16.140 comfortable telling you anything, especially if it's something that they think is serious enough to

01:16:20.940 consider leaving like their relationship with you for, like if it's serious enough that they

01:16:26.300 would consider divorcing you, if they can't explore the sexual fantasy or anything like that.

01:16:30.300 I think that's just a part of being good on the, um, I, I, I agree with what you're saying here,

01:16:36.140 that they, um, that these men don't feel comfortable that they could tell their wives.

01:16:41.180 And I guess that's just a part of being, not that it's justifiable that you as a wife,

01:16:46.140 you should give in to any sexual fetish your partner brings to you.

01:16:50.220 It's whatever you're comfortable with and wherever your boundaries are.

01:16:52.620 But, um, I guess that's a part of that continuous conversation with them so that they always feel

01:16:57.260 comfortable bringing up anything to you as a friend, as like a confidant and knowing they're

01:17:01.820 not going to be judged, but that they'll be a partner with you in favor.

01:17:04.460 I do have to, I do have to move on.

01:17:06.060 So we have a couple of chats here.

01:17:07.100 I want to try to get through.

01:17:08.140 We have beaten cheeks.

01:17:09.580 Candace Owens, do not hold back on these libs. 1.00

01:17:12.060 Wipe the floor with your intelligence.

01:17:13.740 Congrats on being prego again.

01:17:15.660 Be easy with my Essie though.

01:17:17.100 She's about to get retired out soon. 1.00

01:17:19.100 Okay.

01:17:19.500 First of all, we, I have beef with beaten cheeks because he asked me on a date and then posted

01:17:23.340 a photo with another girl on Twitter.

01:17:25.740 So are you guys, are you guys loyal?

01:17:28.780 I mean, he asked you on a date and you guys are committed to, you're committed to beaten 0.99

01:17:33.100 cheeks with his ridiculous name. 0.99

01:17:35.020 We're basically together. 0.99

01:17:35.900 So he's posting photos with another woman right after asking me out.

01:17:38.780 Beat in cheeks.

01:17:39.500 He's literally breaking my heart.

01:17:40.780 He's breaking my heart.

01:17:41.420 Commit this act of infidelity on Essie over here, who you've never met yet.

01:17:45.100 Okay.

01:17:45.260 We have Frankie K. 0.88

01:17:46.140 Um, hey, thank you, man.

01:17:47.420 You know, what's funny about Beyonce?

01:17:48.700 She encourages single ladies to have fun, supports promiscuous behavior in her music and perpetuates 0.65

01:17:53.820 the, I don't need a man mentality.

01:17:55.260 And when she's done recording, she goes home to her husband and her children who, by the

01:17:59.580 way, I did her Jay-Z cheated, right?

01:18:01.900 Yeah.

01:18:02.140 All right.

01:18:04.460 All right.

01:18:05.260 Good.

01:18:05.500 Good point, Frankie.

01:18:06.220 Thank you, man.

01:18:06.700 We have Canada, the Jay Candace, the honey badger queen. 0.97

01:18:10.300 Is that your nickname?

01:18:11.260 I don't know.

01:18:11.980 Or did you just get bestowed?

01:18:13.020 I just got bestowed.

01:18:14.060 Uh, thank you for your voice and being on this wacky space is a cultural battlefield that

01:18:18.540 somehow pushes beyond ideal ideological bubbles.

01:18:22.060 When are Jeremy and Ben going to make Brian an offer?

01:18:24.940 Seriously.

01:18:25.420 Think about it.

01:18:27.420 I'll bring it to them.

01:18:28.220 I've got a lot to bring in them.

01:18:29.340 Yes.

01:18:29.660 The tiger King.

01:18:31.020 Yeah.

01:18:31.340 Tiger King and Matt Walsh.

01:18:32.460 There you go.

01:18:33.260 All right.

01:18:33.500 We have a travel trades here.

01:18:36.540 Oh, wait, I'll just read.

01:18:37.900 Hi, Brian.

01:18:38.380 Long time.

01:18:38.860 No see.

01:18:39.420 Hopefully I can come on once I'm back from Kuwait.

01:18:41.820 Hi, Candace.

01:18:42.300 Thanks for being a voice.

01:18:43.100 When I felt odd having conversation, I felt odd having conservative behaviors.

01:18:47.580 Excuse me.

01:18:48.300 Your bravery has helped countless people become comfortable with being conservative.

01:18:53.420 Thank you.

01:18:53.820 That's so sweet.

01:18:54.540 Thank you.

01:18:55.100 We have travel trades.

01:18:55.980 People in this day and time are exceedingly haughty and refuse to pursue the abolition

01:19:00.460 or even suppression of ego in their everyday lives.

01:19:03.100 People appeal to, uh, people appeal their own wants, needs, opinions, ideas, et cetera,

01:19:08.060 above all else, instead of appealing to something greater from travel trades.

01:19:11.900 Hey, thank you.

01:19:12.300 Appreciate it.

01:19:13.100 And then lastly, we have society, I, that's probably not, I don't know.

01:19:19.020 Panel, please listen to everything that Candace says.

01:19:21.660 You have a rare opportunity to see what a high value woman is and learn from her as she's intelligent, 0.99

01:19:27.580 respected, respected, and accomplished.

01:19:29.660 You can't justify and make excuses for your lifestyles.

01:19:34.700 Anybody got a response to that one?

01:19:36.140 So that one.

01:19:36.860 Thank you.

01:19:39.020 Oh, okay.

01:19:39.580 There you go.

01:19:39.980 All right.

01:19:40.140 I like my lifestyle.

01:19:41.260 I love my lifestyle.

01:19:42.860 I could change it at any time.

01:19:45.260 These, being in this industry, you don't run out of opportunities.

01:19:50.780 Men are coming all the time.

01:19:52.860 If I wanted to settle down with one of them, I think, I think that could have happened.

01:19:57.900 Yeah.

01:19:58.140 Wait, when you say men are coming to you all the time as clients, right?

01:20:01.660 Yeah.

01:20:02.140 And you said if you wanted to settle down with any of them, you could, but do you find the men

01:20:09.100 who come to you attractive?

01:20:11.500 Because I mean, I've heard from a lot of women who do OnlyFans or even women who are exotic 0.99

01:20:16.620 dancers, strippers, whatever, and women who do porn or even adult content, that the men

01:20:22.220 that typically like are the fans or consume the content or come and see you, your clients,

01:20:28.380 a lot of these women don't view these men like just by virtue of them coming to you or by virtue

01:20:34.060 of them subscribing to your OF, like that in and of itself makes them not a prospect for

01:20:40.620 any like long-term relationship.

01:20:41.900 No, these are normal guys and some of them are hot.

01:20:43.900 So I'm a fitness competitor.

01:20:45.260 Okay, all right.

01:20:45.900 I'm 46 years old.

01:20:47.500 I figured I was going to age out of the industry.

01:20:49.900 What has happened?

01:20:50.940 MILFs are all, all the, all the thing. 1.00

01:20:53.740 They're the cat's pajamas right now. 0.57

01:20:55.260 So I'm getting a ton of I'm getting a lot of young'uns coming, the young'uns, young'uns,

01:21:05.260 young'uns, young' gentlemen, tons of them.

01:21:07.260 And, and then, you know, fitness competitors, judges that, that judge in the circuits.

01:21:13.340 And then they'll say, Hey, I, you know, you're looking good or tighten this up.

01:21:17.900 So there's a lot of opportunities to meet a lot of individuals now to meet them though.

01:21:22.860 But I mean, when it comes to them and when it comes to long-term commitment, I mean,

01:21:27.820 I think they want, well, they, I, I agree.

01:21:30.300 What I, what I encounter, um, and something what Candace said is these guys, they are prideful.

01:21:36.060 So once they start dating you, they do, in my experience, they do want you to maybe consider

01:21:41.980 settling down.

01:21:43.180 Now I've done real estate.

01:21:44.780 I was vice president of business growth at an active, um, wealth management company during

01:21:49.740 COVID.

01:21:50.300 I have a master's degree.

01:21:51.820 I can do different things.

01:21:53.340 What do you have a master's in?

01:21:54.460 Education.

01:21:55.260 I got straight A's.

01:21:57.020 Yeah.

01:21:57.340 So, and I taught for a while.

01:21:59.260 So I, I come in and out, I'll go into white colored work and then I'll go back into the 0.82

01:22:02.940 industry because it's fun for me.

01:22:05.100 I enjoy it and, and it is good money and it's an adventure.

01:22:08.620 I enjoy going out with these guys and being a travel companion and getting to go on vacations.

01:22:13.980 No, I just wanted to ask you as a, the man sitting at this table, are you attracted to

01:22:21.420 their lifestyles?

01:22:22.620 Do you think men are attracted to their lifestyles?

01:22:26.220 Uh, I'm just curious about your opinion, just to hear a male.

01:22:29.580 Good thing I don't care.

01:22:30.300 I don't care.

01:22:31.820 Well, that's so rude.

01:22:32.620 No, I mean, good thing.

01:22:35.180 I don't care for what an other male has to say about my industry though.

01:22:39.100 But he's been asking you questions about what you think about men.

01:22:41.900 No, I'm going to listen to him.

01:22:43.020 I'm asking you questions about your life.

01:22:44.380 And the first thing, when I ask one question to him, you say, I don't care.

01:22:47.740 I feel like that's, I'm very hurt.

01:22:49.740 I want to know.

01:22:50.300 Yeah, but why interrupt that?

01:22:52.700 Like when he asked you a question, what if someone said, I don't care what she says?

01:22:55.420 You know, I think that's just a little rude.

01:22:57.020 I'm saying like, because everybody's always out here.

01:23:00.060 I see your faces that you're giving her and stuff like that.

01:23:02.220 No, I just, I'm saying like, I'm letting her talk, but I just wanted to hear his opinion

01:23:05.980 on it.

01:23:06.140 So I just, was that like a little bit of insecurity to just jump and say, I don't

01:23:09.420 care.

01:23:09.660 Can I poach Candace from the daily wire? 0.89

01:23:12.060 Well, it was just a little rude.

01:23:16.060 We've all been letting people talk with different perspectives.

01:23:18.380 So I just thought it was like, suddenly he hasn't even said anything and you've already

01:23:21.580 been diminished.

01:23:25.980 So it's okay.

01:23:27.020 I just want to hear like, we've been all talking about our opinions.

01:23:30.780 I'm trying to let Brian continue and you're, you're still talking.

01:23:34.140 Okay.

01:23:34.460 A little bit of insecurity coming out over there.

01:23:36.300 I'm not sure where it's coming from, but go on.

01:23:39.580 Go ahead, Brian.

01:23:40.940 Oh, do I have your permission?

01:23:42.140 Is it okay?

01:23:43.660 Okay.

01:23:43.900 Okay.

01:23:44.140 Okay.

01:23:44.220 Cool.

01:23:44.460 Cool.

01:23:45.500 So sorry.

01:23:46.220 Can you just repeat the question one more time?

01:23:47.740 Yeah.

01:23:47.900 I was just saying like, it's interesting because we're all women and we're giving different

01:23:50.940 perspectives and the female perspective on this topic. 0.92

01:23:54.140 When you hear what she just said about sex work and how she feels about sex work, or you

01:24:00.700 hear what she's saying, or you hear what she's saying, what is your honest opinion as a man?

01:24:06.380 Because what we're trying to get to, I think the nucleus of is, you know, high value women, 1.00

01:24:12.620 high value men, what creates that, how men respond to that.

01:24:15.100 And we have the opportunity to hear a man.

01:24:16.940 I mean, I personally would not date a woman who is involved in sex work in any of its various 1.00

01:24:24.700 manifestations.

01:24:27.180 Just, I mean, it's kind of, there's, I, I'm not really like a hater if people want to

01:24:35.260 do that sort of thing when on a societal level, I don't know if it's, you know, the best thing,

01:24:41.020 but I'm kind of like, hey, whatever, go do your thing. But as far as my own personal preferences,

01:24:48.060 standards and boundaries, when it comes to a relationship, I don't foresee myself wanting

01:24:53.820 to get involved with someone who does sex work.

01:24:56.540 And why do you think that is? I think most men would agree with you. I think, and I think that

01:25:02.860 makes sense to me, but why is that? Because I think it's just interesting to hear a male perspective,

01:25:06.940 that's all. Sure. I mean, well, kind of going back to there being different levels to it.

01:25:13.740 So, I mean, if she's a prostitute or was a prostitute, I mean, it's kind of, I feel like 0.90

01:25:20.460 that's just common sense. Like, I wouldn't, no offense, I just wouldn't date a woman who's a 1.00

01:25:27.020 prostitute. I'm not offended, like I said. And probably they wouldn't want to date me. I don't 0.97

01:25:30.700 know. It's fine. It's cool. But yeah, I wouldn't, I know if you're, because I would want monogamy,

01:25:37.340 I'd want loyalty. And even though it's for work, and they're just doing it for money,

01:25:43.820 my view of sex is not, I don't think you can, well, people do, but I don't think you ought to detach

01:25:50.780 intimacy from sex. And people who engage in a lot of casual sex or people who do it for work,

01:25:55.660 you've essentially just detached intimacy from sex. So, um, definitely not a prostitute. 0.84

01:26:03.260 Um, I mean, not a stripper, not a OnlyFans. No. I feel like that was just like an unnecessarily

01:26:10.140 long way to answer. Like, no, no dude's going to want to date a hooker. I don't know. It's like, 0.82

01:26:14.060 I don't think it's like that. Yeah. And I said, I don't care because it's like, and you're like,

01:26:19.100 no, don't take offense. Like, I'm not going to take offense to something I don't care about.

01:26:22.460 That's why I'm like, no, it's just the preempt. And you stated, you were like, and you looked at

01:26:26.380 me and you said, and don't take offense. Like, baby, I'm not offended by any means.

01:26:31.340 You know what I mean? Okay. Okay. I'm not looking for, I'm not, I'm not trying to offend you.

01:26:37.180 She was just asking me. Yeah. I literally was just asking a question. No, I know. Yeah. Yeah.

01:26:40.700 Yeah. Earlier it was like talked about like promiscuity. Like I'm assuming you guys believe

01:26:44.940 like promiscuity is like bad or shouldn't be encouraged in society. I was wondering if what specific

01:26:49.900 factors do you think encourage it most? Do you believe it's like media? Do you think like birth

01:26:53.500 control has anything to do with it? Do you believe like, I want to know what your top factors

01:26:58.620 of promiscuity are and what you believe it is? Yeah. So I would say number one contributor is,

01:27:03.420 is culture and the education system. So I remember when I was left leaning, a lot of my ideas came

01:27:08.700 from the school system and just what you're talking about, Planned Parenthood in the classroom,

01:27:12.380 that effort began in the seventies. The majority of high schoolers were graduating with their

01:27:16.220 virginity intact in the seventies before they started, um, teaching health class,

01:27:21.020 which was teaching people that everybody's doing it. And actually they weren't. And within

01:27:25.100 one decade, it completely flipped. And the majority of teens were now graduating, having lost their

01:27:29.740 virginity. Um, so we ceded a lot of that to the education system, which when, when parents had more

01:27:36.460 control over their children, what was happening in the classroom was based on arithmetic and not cultural

01:27:40.460 issues and focusing on engineering children to think that sex is this positive.

01:27:45.180 Um, it, you know, it's, you just do it. Everybody's doing it. It doesn't matter if you have multiple

01:27:48.620 partners, you combine that with feminism in the classroom. I, I was forced in college to take 1.00

01:27:53.100 a feminism 101 course and they kind of made you think that, yeah. 1.00

01:27:57.740 Beat in cheeks donated $200. Candace, please tell these women their past promiscuous matters to 1.00

01:28:04.940 be with a decent guy that will not be beta males. SC, that was just a friend. We still on relax.

01:28:11.980 Just to answer my text and we good, I promise equals D.

01:28:16.380 All right. Thank you. Um, was there a question here for Candace or

01:28:22.300 wait, can I, do you mind if I push back a little bit on the education system comment? Sure. Okay.

01:28:27.500 Cause at least from the things that I've read and that I've studied, it seems like that is true,

01:28:31.900 but in a very particular context and that very particular context was like basically abstinence

01:28:37.500 only education, which I don't know about you guys, but makes complete sense to me because if you tell

01:28:41.980 teenagers like, don't do this thing, this thing is like super, you know, like don't do it. Um,

01:28:46.940 it feels super good, but you're not supposed to do it or whatever. If you phrase it that way,

01:28:50.700 then teenagers are going to go out and do it. Cause like at least everything that I've seen

01:28:54.140 recently has been talking about how, um, if you talk about proper sex ed and people who have more

01:28:59.420 access to contraceptives as well, as well as better sex ed tend to have like a lower body count than people

01:29:04.620 who are like in like lower education, less sex ed, less access to contraception. So I was just

01:29:09.340 wondering like your thoughts on that. I'm just, I'm telling you it's not true factually in the 70s

01:29:14.060 before they got Planned Parenthood went in the classroom and started funding initiatives. Um,

01:29:17.980 and they started teaching sex education. They used to know, they used to not be sex education in school

01:29:22.700 and the way that they got it into the classroom in the 70s was by saying, you know, it's better to teach

01:29:27.420 them, which is what you're saying, because then they'll be more responsible. It actually, within one decade,

01:29:31.500 it flipped. The majority of high schoolers were graduating with their virginity before there was

01:29:35.180 sex education. And then when they put sex education in the classroom, the majority of them within 10 0.76

01:29:39.660 years were, were not graduating with their virginity. So it actually sexualized children. 1.00

01:29:43.820 Yeah. My understanding, but the reason why was because the first manifestations of sex education

01:29:49.500 was abstinence only. And it was working is what I'm saying to you. Oh, yeah, it was working. So they,

01:29:54.460 abstinence, it used to be, you know, considered and I'm not at all trying to, I'm just telling you what the facts are here.

01:29:59.580 Um, like when people, when abstinence was the cultural simulation, when everyone said you

01:30:04.940 should be abstinent, you should not get, you should not have sex before marriage. That idea 1.00

01:30:09.420 was permeated throughout culture. It was reflected in culture. There were no sex ads. There weren't

01:30:13.180 people naked on the internet and people lived their lives. It was considered a big thing, you know,

01:30:18.780 to lose your virginity. You were actually considered someone that maybe a guy wouldn't want to marry

01:30:21.980 because you lost your virginity. That was, that was the cultural understanding, like, you know,

01:30:25.660 in the fifties and the sixties. And then in the seventies, you had this fourth wave of feminism 1.00

01:30:30.140 that reared its ugly head and started associating sexual promiscuity to freedom and things completely 0.61

01:30:35.900 flipped. Again, I'm just giving you a historical analysis of what happened in the classroom. 0.95

01:30:39.740 Yeah, I'd be interested. Without commentary. Yeah, it's okay if you, sorry, I'll just finish.

01:30:43.900 Make it quick if you can. Yeah, I'd be interested to see, like, where exactly you're getting that from.

01:30:48.140 If, like, later you can tell me or whatever. Thomas Sowell inside the education system.

01:30:51.820 Okay. And he has all of the sources listed in the back of the book. Okay. Because

01:30:55.580 at least in modern day, do you think that any of that has flipped or no? No, I think we've become,

01:31:00.380 you know, there was, to use a term, I was, I was actually talking about this yesterday on a podcast.

01:31:03.900 I thought it was pretty brilliant, but Paul Joseph Watson, I love his YouTube stuff. And he started

01:31:07.820 talking about hoflation. That is, that's a thing. Actually hilarious, which he's saying that men 1.00

01:31:14.380 used to have to do a lot less and get a very high value women. He's like, so think about your

01:31:18.620 grandparents and your grandmother. She was a high value woman. She, you know, she raised the kids.

01:31:24.300 She was conservative. She was beautiful, all of these things. And now we live in this moment where

01:31:28.780 everyone's kind of a hoe and you have to work harder to get a woman that doesn't have any self 1.00

01:31:32.860 respect or any value. And I just thought it was really interesting video. It was obviously funny,

01:31:37.100 but he was saying something and we live in, we live in hoflation now where everybody in their own

01:31:41.820 capacity is selling their, selling their bodies. And unfortunately, this, these are the options

01:31:46.780 that men have. No, I'm not saying it's stunning to me that women talk about what men need to be

01:31:51.420 and what men need to be. But I think just kind of the complete disintegration of when I look at,

01:31:56.300 you know, what my grandpa, my grandmother looks like in pictures, she passed in 2013 and just how

01:32:01.500 classy and how beautiful and how much I wanted to be like her. And now I look at, you know, women today

01:32:05.820 and I just think, man, I feel bad for guys, like, you know, that the pool is getting smaller,

01:32:10.460 but also it's really positive for women that are conservative and, you know, who, uh, it means

01:32:15.820 that you're a part of, you know, maybe a smaller pool of individuals. I see it a lot more in the

01:32:19.980 South and that men should aspire to pursue those women. Absolutely. Um, to raise their families

01:32:25.100 and, you know, to raise their kids. Do you, do you cosign on the, the hoflation? Oh yeah,

01:32:29.580 I believe. Yeah. The women I today are very low value. And so it's funny because the simulation is like,

01:32:35.020 men ain't shit is kind of the thing. Everybody's saying don't need a man. And it's funny that 0.99

01:32:39.740 someone brought up Beyonce because she's living the exact opposite of what she's singing. She's 0.70

01:32:43.180 just making money because she's making, knows how to make money in a hoflationary environment, 1.00

01:32:47.580 you know, smart woman. She's like, I'm just going to pretend to be a ho, but then actually privately, 0.99

01:32:51.180 I'm going to be like super, like, hold on. Um, you wanted to come in, then you please, if you can,

01:32:57.500 try to keep it brief. Cause I need to get to chat. Oh, I was just going to say that my version of sex

01:33:02.220 educator, my sex education was literally them showing us a birthing photo or a video. Sorry. Yeah. In

01:33:07.980 fourth grade. That terrified me. And I was like, actually, I don't think I'm going to have sex for

01:33:11.260 a long time. I think I'm good. And like, speaking of hoflation, I mean, we're common, 0.86

01:33:17.660 we're always trending apparently. Right. Because hoes, because without us hoes, 1.00

01:33:24.220 you wouldn't have like that many views to be watching. Right. You have hoes come on the podcast 1.00

01:33:30.060 to talk about our, I'm not knocking hoes. I'm saying you have hoes. And when I say you have hoes coming 1.00

01:33:36.780 onto the podcast, you, you know, you're a ho. Do you mean a literal ho or like more of a 0.99

01:33:41.100 the colloquial? That's Brian's dream. You know what I mean? You have hoes, Brian. So you sit here and 1.00

01:33:45.980 you want to bash sex workers, but you know, we come on here. When did I bash anybody? I don't think 0.92

01:33:50.460 anybody is bashing. He's bringing you on here and giving you a platform to speak. So I think that

01:33:55.020 if he was going to be bashing you, he wouldn't even allow anybody on. The hero of hoes, if you will. 1.00

01:33:59.100 Wait, what do you mean making, making, making what? Making a scene. I'm not making anybody seem

01:34:04.780 any sort of like. No, I'm just talking about a video. We're a trending topic. So it's relevant

01:34:09.420 to speak on. Because it's interesting. It's fascinating. I am fascinated by hoes. I'll say it. 1.00

01:34:14.140 I'm absolutely fascinated by the way the whole mind works, the way the whole hive works. I'm

01:34:19.180 fascinated. Next documentary. I cover it on my show. You are correct. It is trending. When Emma gets up

01:34:24.380 and does a video and says something like, you know, I'm, it's chic to be divorced before you're 30. It is

01:34:28.940 absolutely fascinating to see how someone's mind can be so warped, you know, in the same way that

01:34:34.380 I think it's, it's fascinating when anybody does anything crazy or says anything crazy and I cover

01:34:37.980 it on my podcast, you know, I am not knocking it at all. I just tell people what the facts are.

01:34:42.860 You can choose this lifestyle. And here is where you are 99.9% likely to lead into in your life,

01:34:49.260 right? You are probably not destined for marriage. You're not probably not destined for a stable

01:34:53.660 relationship. Men are going to not want this long-term. You can say it a thousand times,

01:34:57.100 you can have a thousand cultural examples and women's still got to go out there and be hoes, 1.00

01:35:01.020 you know, because they're about they money and about a Cardi B song or whatever it is. So yes,

01:35:05.740 I think it is fascinating. And it is why I wanted to, you know, this is why I talk about on my podcast

01:35:12.060 and why I'm very interested to talk to you guys. I hope you guys feel that I've been respectful

01:35:15.260 and listening to, you know, your lifestyles, even though it's so different from mine. And so I appreciate

01:35:19.980 Brian for hosting. Well, thank you for coming, Candice. Let's see, I have a couple chats here and then I

01:35:24.700 have one more question. And then I think Candice will have to leave here in a moment. We have

01:35:30.300 Yvonne. Oh, okay. Modern life dating donated $199. Hey, Candice, thank you for being a voice of

01:35:38.940 common sense and a good representation of being a decent woman in today's modern perverse time.

01:35:44.540 What are your thoughts on the passport bro movement of men leaving America for better wives abroad?

01:35:49.980 Hey, John, thank you very much for the TTS. Maybe a brief little snippet on this if you can.

01:35:55.580 Yes. Yeah. I think that you can find higher quality women in other places. Like I married 1.00

01:36:01.260 an Englishman. I'm, I think America. Are you a passport, not a bro, but like a passport sis?

01:36:07.980 Passport sis. There you go. Yeah. I think that America has really lowered the cultural standards

01:36:13.900 for women more than any, you don't see this kind of, even the way women dress in America compared to 1.00

01:36:18.940 England fascinates me. And so, yeah, I, I think find a wife, do what you gotta do, but also don't discount the

01:36:24.540 South because there are so many good women in the South in America come to Tennessee. They're wonderful. 1.00

01:36:31.260 I have heard something kind of interesting on this is that, uh, you have a lot of men in the West,

01:36:37.260 a lot of men in the U S going overseas to try to find perhaps a wife who's a bit more feminine or,

01:36:43.820 you know, whatever they're not finding here in the, in the West, but you don't hear of men

01:36:49.020 from other countries in droves coming to the U S to find a wife here.

01:36:56.300 You don't really hear that. So, um, all right, we have Yvonne, Yvonne St. Simon is Kansas. I know

01:37:03.420 you're listening to these women with a realization that this country is doomed. How will you help your

01:37:07.820 son navigate the swamp before you right now? And if we can just try to be, I moved to the South.

01:37:14.940 As soon as I got pregnant, the first time I moved where my values aligned and my son will be just fine.

01:37:19.580 Perfect. We have a goodest boy. One of them is too young to remember the movie. Pretty woman.

01:37:24.540 Imagine a guy just wanting a better life for the both of you and maybe even a family. Again,

01:37:28.700 the world is effed. Hey, goodest boy. Thank you. Uh, Yvonne Candace. Do you think Lyndon B.

01:37:33.580 Johnson has anything to do with the fact that these women that have an only fans are actually able to 1.00

01:37:38.300 find a relationship with a man? I don't know how we correlated Lyndon B. Johnson to the only fans account.

01:37:43.500 LBJ? Yeah. Are you familiar with anything with LBJ? Of course. Okay. Yvonne St. Simonis.

01:37:53.260 Candace, what specific steps will you take to ensure that your daughter does not

01:37:56.940 become one of the women sitting at the panel right now? It would just be impossible in my household. 1.00

01:38:02.300 We keep her away from this kind of secular living, keeping them away from tablets, not letting them be 1.00

01:38:07.820 raised on Instagram and social media and TikTok, making sure that they have family values instilled in

01:38:12.940 them, that they know what the cross represents. Um, and that, you know, they're, they're church

01:38:18.220 going children and it's all about who you hang out with. You be, you will become the average of the

01:38:21.980 people you spend your most time with. And I, you know, I appreciate the time here, but I would

01:38:27.020 definitely would say that, you know, I want my kids to be in a different climate. All right. We have

01:38:31.660 the cast man 777 marriage must be a closed and permanent relationship between two people for the

01:38:36.700 purpose of raising children without this definition. Marriage just becomes dating with a contract,

01:38:42.220 sending your husband to a sex therapist for sex is just prostitution with a loophole. Hey, 1.00

01:38:48.140 the cast man 777. Thank you very much for your comment there. Uh, final question here before,

01:38:53.820 uh, Candace has to take off. Uh, so, um, would any of you date a trans person?

01:39:01.500 Yes. Yes. Yes. Yeah. I feel like if I say no, I'm going to get a lot of backlash. Well,

01:39:09.820 I think my personal preference, I would say no. Okay. That's fine. No, no, no. Well, you're married.

01:39:16.060 Um, me, me personally, I, I, I would not. Um, my question to you guys is, would any of you object

01:39:23.740 to a man not wanting to date a transgender woman? I think everybody has their own personal

01:39:31.180 preferences. And if there's one thing you're allowed to be super picky on, it's who you date.

01:39:35.900 Like, you know, I think that's the only thing that you can 100% have free reign on. You can date

01:39:41.180 who you decide. Any, I would completely agree with her. Like we talked about before, I think that

01:39:46.940 everyone should have boundaries, you know, and as long as that person's upfront and honest and they can

01:39:51.580 have like a adult conversation that isn't rooted in hatred, I don't think there's anything wrong with

01:39:56.140 preferring somebody that isn't trans. Okay. I have a question. So, and we, this has been like a thing

01:40:01.900 that's gone viral on this podcast before. Um, and it's always seems to spark quite a debate. So

01:40:09.180 would you consider it to be gay for a man to date a trans woman? Yes. For a man to date? No, personally.

01:40:18.940 Would he, would you categorize him as straight? Um, probably, yeah. Because what is it?

01:40:26.540 I'm sorry. This is like too technical. I mean, I'm like, I just. If you don't want to answer,

01:40:32.140 that's fine. Go ahead. If you don't want to answer, that's fine. Go ahead. I'm with Pixie.

01:40:35.420 I don't think that that makes me gay at all. What do you, Essie? I have no clue.

01:40:39.500 For not to answer? Yeah. Okay. Um, question. I mean, does your answer change based on the

01:40:45.100 stage of transition? Like what if this is before any transition has occurred at all,

01:40:49.900 but the person has come to the realization that they are transgender? Well, I would assume that 1.00

01:40:57.500 you have some level of like homosexual inclination. If you're a man attracted to a person who looks and

01:41:03.180 represents as a man, you know, like if you're saying pre-transition, I would say like you're,

01:41:08.460 if you're attracted to those components of that person. But pre-transition, if you are transgender,

01:41:13.740 are you a woman? Pre-transition, you're a woman who hasn't transitioned yet. So you're presenting as

01:41:19.740 a male. What if there hasn't been any bottom surgery? What do you mean? Like there's still

01:41:27.180 an appendage. So you're saying they transitioned everything, but they're bottom. I there, maybe

01:41:34.540 they're in the process of transitioning. Let's say, fine, everything, but the... Okay. I feel like

01:41:39.900 I'm kind of confused here. So I'll just leave it in the, in these sentences. It seems really technical.

01:41:43.420 Two people that have penises. I don't care how you feel on your inside. I don't care if you dress 1.00

01:41:47.900 and you wear a dress, you wear a wig. If you come together and you have sex, you're gay. And I 1.00

01:41:53.340 think that is homosexual, right? So I know that people are trying, it's, it is convoluted. So I understand

01:41:58.860 why you're like, they're trying to make it something else and it's in your head. And well, what if you feel like a woman?

01:42:04.140 It's very simple. If you are a man and you are having sex with a man, irrespective of how you 0.98

01:42:09.020 feel or whether or not you've mutilated your body or you've chopped something off, it doesn't make you 0.95

01:42:13.660 not a man. You are your man. And two men coming together to have sex with their appendages intact, 0.73

01:42:20.460 obviously is homosexual sex. So yeah, I think, um, you know, it's different if you're presenting 0.99

01:42:26.060 completely different because at that point, like, you know, you have men who say that they've been

01:42:30.540 trapped or whatever. And I'm like, that person is straight. They literally slept with someone who

01:42:34.700 was like presenting as a woman, looked like a woman they couldn't tell. Like, I wouldn't consider 0.97

01:42:38.940 that gay. Um, but at the end of the day, like, honestly, I don't really care about people's sexual 1.00

01:42:43.580 orientation that much. I feel like this is like kind of a culture war issue. And for some people,

01:42:47.660 culture war issues are important, but I'd rather talk like policy about something. I don't know if that

01:42:51.820 makes me boring here, but. Well, I'm not sure I'm totally following, but I guess, so what is a woman? 0.90

01:43:04.460 I've answered this question before on the podcast. Here, I can start with Azalea. Did I say your

01:43:08.140 name or I'm sorry? No, you never do, but it's okay. Okay, go ahead. So what is a woman? I mean, I think that 0.51

01:43:15.020 gender is a spectrum. I obviously know that you do not agree with me and a lot of the conservative

01:43:18.620 people here won't agree with me, but I guess it's just how you present and how you feel.

01:43:22.540 I mean, I don't really, again, I don't like to structure things that way and like make it so

01:43:26.220 black and white. I think that people should represent themselves and be what they want to

01:43:29.820 be. And it's nobody else's business, to be honest. A female is somebody that has a vagina. 1.00

01:43:34.940 That's what it says in the book, right? Okay, cool. The Bible? The health ed book. 1.00

01:43:42.860 Gender and sex are two different things, so. Okay. You answered the question correctly, 0.99

01:43:47.020 so I don't want you to feel like you didn't even treat it wrong. What is a woman? 1.00

01:43:49.900 A woman is somebody. I'm like, this is so complex. I'm scared. 1.00

01:43:51.980 It doesn't need to be. It doesn't need to be. A woman is somebody who presents or acts as 1.00

01:43:56.300 the social construct of women. And the reason why I don't say biology is because whenever we look at

01:44:00.780 biology, the truth is, before coming to this room, I did not look at anybody's genitalia here. I did not

01:44:06.300 look at any of your chromosomes. I just assumed you guys were women because of how you dress and act. 0.99

01:44:10.940 So I think that maps on more to our reality of how we use the word woman.

01:44:16.700 Essie? This is so controversial. I'm very, like, a man and a woman. Man has a penis. Woman has a vagina. 0.91

01:44:25.740 Biologically, man and a woman. I agree. I think that it's like whatever biologically and anatomically 1.00

01:44:32.700 what you've got going on. I feel like what brings out my feminine qualities the most is the thought

01:44:41.740 of being a mother in the future. So I guess I associate being a woman with being a mother in

01:44:47.820 all aspects of that. Okay. Your gender is decided before you're born, when you're born, and for the 0.72

01:44:56.620 rest of your life. I'm having a little boy. The doctor knows that. I know that because he's got a penis.

01:45:02.700 It's growing inside of my stomach right now, which is kind of tricky to think about. 0.99

01:45:06.620 If I get onto this table and I start meowing like a cat, I don't suddenly become a biological cat

01:45:11.500 because I present like a cat and wear a tail and say meow, meow. That probably means that I need to

01:45:17.420 talk to a therapist. Not you. Not you. But yeah, it's not that difficult. It doesn't need to be

01:45:24.460 convoluted. It doesn't need to be controversial. A woman, to answer your question, is an adult female. 0.87

01:45:30.780 Adult human female. It is an adult human female. And that is the answer to something that it's just

01:45:38.220 shocking to me that every person knew, every child, every, and then within just a couple of cultural

01:45:44.300 years, everyone is so confused about, you know, water being a liquid. It's very, again, I'm fascinated by

01:45:51.740 it. So I love to talk to people that are confused by that. But if you were born with a vagina, 1.00

01:45:56.620 you are a female. And if you were born with a penis, you are a male. And if you had some rare 1.00

01:46:03.900 thing happen, which hardly ever happens, but people always talk about it, where you're born with both 0.73

01:46:08.780 parts, you might be intersex, hermaphrodite. But generally speaking, I think we know that that 0.99

01:46:15.100 means that something genetically went wrong and we are born either male or female.

01:46:19.500 Pixie, do you object to her definition? Yeah, because I think, I understand where you're coming

01:46:24.620 from. But I think when it comes to day-to-day use of words, they have to map onto our reality somewhat.

01:46:29.900 And the truth is like, as I didn't check anyone's like biology or chromosomes before coming here,

01:46:34.780 you can say it's an act. But the truth is, that's, it's an act that everybody plays into. Everybody looks

01:46:39.740 at how a person looks like and says, oh, they're a woman or male based off of that. And you can say,

01:46:44.620 oh, that person is putting on a disguise that doesn't change their real gender or anything.

01:46:49.580 But everybody acts that way. So to me, it's like, no, like the word that maps or the definition that

01:46:55.660 maps most onto reality, onto our day-to-day usage is appearance based.

01:46:59.660 Uh, Candace does have to take off here. Do you have a final response to her?

01:47:05.020 Yeah, I just, if you grow an afro and wear a wig and put, you know, a lot of black makeup on, 0.89

01:47:09.740 you're not a black woman, you know? So your appearance doesn't actually mean anything. 0.87

01:47:13.820 You are, you're, you're not black. Um, and the same way that I'm not white. So how we,

01:47:19.900 if we can trick someone, you might be able to trick me. I think Roy Richard Dolezal did a really

01:47:23.420 good job tricking people into believing that she was black for a long time, uh, by darkening her 1.00

01:47:27.820 skin, getting super tan and wearing fake wigs, but she wasn't actually a black woman. So how you feel

01:47:32.460 on the inside and how you present, you might be able to trick people, but that makes you a liar, 0.57

01:47:36.700 not a woman. So, um, yeah, that's what I would say in closing. Yeah. If you want, you could direct 1.00

01:47:42.540 your further comments to me afterwards, but, um, guys, please be sure to check out Candace Owens' 0.88

01:47:48.700 documentary. Yes. Convicting a murderer. You guys will love it. Tomorrow. It's not political.

01:47:53.020 Yeah. I'm going to watch it tomorrow. It'll be live on X. Live on X and the dailywire.com.

01:47:58.060 Okay. Yeah, cool. Um, yeah, be sure to check that out guys. Well, Candace,

01:48:01.900 thank you so much for coming. Thank you guys for having me. And honestly, I really did appreciate

01:48:04.540 talking to you guys. I thought it was fascinating. And I think everyone was super respectful. So

01:48:07.740 I really appreciate it. And you, cause you're so young, I'm just going to say a prayer for you

01:48:12.300 because I, I do think, I really do believe that in there, there's just a different life for you.

01:48:17.900 And I'm just going to say a prayer for you tonight. And I just wanted to say that because I felt

01:48:21.020 for me tonight. I mean, cause I don't know what that prayer entails.

01:48:24.300 Well, I'm going to say it anyways. Yeah. Someday you might.

01:48:27.820 Are you, you're rejecting the prayer. Prayer is rejected. Okay.

01:48:30.860 I am rejecting your prayer. The show goes on, but Candace is, is leaving guys.

01:48:35.100 Give me just a sec to say goodbye. So nice to meet you guys.

01:48:37.900 Yo guys, W's in the chat for Candace. W's in the chat for Candace. 07's in the chat for Candace.

01:48:42.700 Sorry. Let me, I'll scoot over a little bit. Yeah. If I want to be a ho, I'll be a ho. 0.99

01:48:46.940 Guys, give me just a sec while I say goodbye. And then we'll, we'll continue with the stream.

Whatever Podcast - October 16, 2025

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