Whatever Podcast - Charlie Kirk DESTROYS Whatever Podcast FULL VIDEO #2

00:00:00.000 Welcome to the Whatever Dating Talk podcast where we try to make sense of the modern dating

00:00:04.360 hellscape. I'm your host, Brian Atlas. Thanks for tuning in tonight. My name is Karina and I'm

00:00:10.040 turning 28 next month. I am currently, well, I'm going to be a law student in August, so.

00:00:18.240 Are you currently a student right now? I am currently waiting for school to start.

00:00:22.600 I work at a firm. But you, so you're like a paralegal or you have your undergrad in something?

00:00:26.980 I have my undergrad in psychology and I'm a law clerk. Okay, very cool. What about you?

00:00:32.580 Hi, I'm Larissa. I'm 21. I live here in Ivy and I just graduated from UCSB. So I'm actually

00:00:39.040 going to start my new job as a behavioral interventionist and trauma caregiver.

00:00:43.580 And what did you, what was your major at UCSB? Sociology. Sociology. Okay. Soci. All right.

00:00:50.340 What about you? Hi, I'm Caitlin. I'm 20 and I go to UCR and I'm a student.

00:00:58.320 UC Riverside? Yeah. Okay. What are you studying? Media. Media. Just media?

00:01:03.860 Or media and cultural studies. Media studies? Okay. And, and cultural studies. Is one a minor

00:01:08.860 or it's like this, that's the program? No, it's one major, media and cultural studies.

00:01:12.700 And you're from, originally from Riverside? Fullerton. Fullerton. Okay. Got it. What about

00:01:18.880 you? I'm Amy. I'll be 48 at the end of the year and I'm a pilot and have been a bit of

00:01:24.120 a gold digger. You, you've been like past tense or? On and off. Current. Okay. Been a bit

00:01:30.580 of a gold digger. You also, uh, hold on. I had some notes here in addition to that. Hold on.

00:01:37.380 And you're also pilot? Correct. Model. You said model. And what's the, what's the other

00:01:44.360 thing that you do? High, high end? I dated wealthy men. Okay. Who provided for me. But

00:01:49.860 you're also a high end companion. Do I have that? Yeah. I've dated wealthy men who provided

00:01:53.500 for me. Okay. Got it. All right. And you have, is it a, when you say pilot, is this a commercial

00:01:58.960 license? I'm commercially licensed. I've flown cargo and charter and I've been a flight instructor.

00:02:04.100 Okay. Wow. All right. Cool. What about you? I'm shy. I'm 19 and I'm also from the Gold

00:02:09.960 Coast. All right. And are you in school or anything like that? No. What do you do for

00:02:14.780 work? Only fans. Okay. How long you been doing that for? Uh, six months. Six months.

00:02:21.020 All right. And any school at all? Like college? What do they call it? Uni? Um, yeah, but I

00:02:28.000 was doing my, uh, cert three for beauty, but then I kind of just ditched that and became

00:02:33.280 an only fence. For beauty. Okay. Got it. Like cosmetics or? Yeah. Okay. Got it. What about

00:02:38.680 you? Hi, my name is Serena. I am 21 and I just recently graduated from UCR and this fall

00:02:46.420 I will be attending SF State to get my master's. And, uh, what did you do for your undergrad?

00:02:53.300 Uh, biology. And what are you going, uh, for your master's? What do you, um, biomedical,

00:02:58.280 biomedical, yeah, biomedical science with a concentration in biotechnology? Are you wanting

00:03:02.500 to be a doctor or? Uh, I just want to go into research. Research. Okay. What about you? Um,

00:03:07.620 I'm Imogen. I'm 18 and I'm from Australia, Gold Coast. All right. And what do you do for

00:03:13.480 work? Only fans. Okay. What about you? Hi, I'm Leah. I'm 26. I'm from North Carolina and

00:03:19.520 I do marketing. All right. Welcome. Hi, I'm Heather. I'm 35. Currently a stay at home

00:03:27.240 life. Um, I was a corporate director of food safety and quality assurance for a very large

00:03:32.520 food manufacturer and I will be a law student in August. Okay. And, uh, Charlie, what about

00:03:38.800 you? Hi, I'm, uh, Charlie. I'm Erica's husband and, uh, father of two. We just had a new baby.

00:03:44.240 Uh, so we have two under two. So, uh, and yet it's book promo week. That's the only reason I was able

00:03:48.640 to get away. There we go. It's, uh, it's one of my first trips since we've had the new little

00:03:52.480 one. Gotcha. Age? Uh, of the baby or me? Both. Uh, one month. I'm 30 years old. Yeah. All right.

00:03:59.160 30. Got it. And you're also the, uh, the founder of a small little thing called turning point,

00:04:04.960 turning point, uh, podcast radio and all sorts of fun stuff. All right. Rock, rock and roll.

00:04:09.660 Welcome everybody. So we're going to go around the table once more. What's everybody's current

00:04:13.820 relationship status? So are you single talking stage situationship?

00:04:18.640 Friends with benefits, relationship, married, harem, polycule. There's all kinds of, it's

00:04:23.740 2024, you know, all kinds of arrangements. If you're single, how long have you been single

00:04:28.620 and what's the longest relationship you've ever been in starting with you? Go ahead.

00:04:32.420 Um, I would say I'm off the market. I'm, I've been dating somebody for a few years now.

00:04:39.380 All right. So we'll say relationship. Sure. Yes. But you said off the market. Okay. But you

00:04:45.900 said like two or three years, uh, two years. Yeah. Two years. Are you guys boyfriend, girlfriend

00:04:50.680 or is there no title? There's not, I don't like the titles before marriage, but. Is it

00:04:56.440 exclusive like monogamous? It's exclusive monogamy. Yeah. We'll just say two years. Yeah. Longest

00:05:00.580 relationship? Um, I think like three and a half, four years maybe. All right. Yeah. What about

00:05:05.960 you? I'm single. I have been single since 2023 and my longest relationship is like two-ish

00:05:11.740 years. Like the beginning of 2023 or like the end of 2023? You've been single. Um, like

00:05:18.180 April-ish. So about a year you've been single. And sorry, longest relationship? Uh, two-ish

00:05:24.020 years. Two. All right. What about you? I'm in a relationship about three years. Three years.

00:05:31.000 Okay. And where did you guys meet? UCR. UCR. Okay. And, uh, is he like also you're, are you

00:05:40.820 going into your senior year at UCR? Yeah. Is he also going into senior? Okay. Are you

00:05:45.220 guys both in the, like, are you guys in sororities? Yeah. Yeah. Same one. Is that how you guys know

00:05:50.360 each other? Yeah. Okay. Is he in, is he a frat guy or? Yeah. Okay. Did you meet at a frat

00:05:54.640 party or something like that or? Uh, he just reached out to me on Instagram. Oh, he slid in

00:05:59.400 the DMs. Okay. Yeah. All right. Did you guys, you guys didn't have like a class

00:06:02.860 together or anything? You just same dorm, anything like that? Okay. You went same

00:06:08.160 school, slid into the DMs. It worked. Okay, cool. And, uh, is this your longest

00:06:12.740 relationship that you've had only relationship? All right. What about you? I date

00:06:18.240 two people casually. I've been seeing both of them for 18 years and they are my

00:06:22.960 longest relationships. Okay. So date, I've never had to write that. Dating two for 18

00:06:29.000 years. All right. Um, have you ever been married? No. Engaged. Never married. Engaged.

00:06:33.700 How many proposals? Any proposals? Many. Many proposals. No acceptance of the proposals.

00:06:39.420 They just, did they not, they just didn't meet the, or do you not want to get married?

00:06:43.720 I'd like to get the last round of the draft picked. That's what I'm waiting for. Just the

00:06:47.180 very last round. The last rock party. Yeah. Okay. Uh, and so these two men that you've been

00:06:53.040 dating both for 18 years? Mm-hmm. Do they, uh, they know about each other? Yeah. And

00:06:59.560 they're, are they dating other, uh, women? Not that I know of. Not that you know of.

00:07:03.760 They can. They can. Okay. And so you're, you said you've been casually dating them for

00:07:09.280 18 years? Uh, yeah. We don't live together. We have no plans for marriage. That's all I

00:07:13.460 mean by that. Do they live in different parts of the country? So you'll like fly out? How

00:07:17.640 often would you say you see, uh, each of them? Um, every other week or so when I feel like

00:07:23.140 it. And they fly you out or did, did you have something? No. Oh, okay. Just all of them.

00:07:27.320 I'm learning. He's taking it in. Yeah. We meet wherever we feel like it. Okay. World's

00:07:32.000 small. Everywhere's got airports. Sure. No big deal. All right. And how did you meet

00:07:35.280 those guys? Internet. Okay. All right. And, uh, in this 18 year period, didn't you ever

00:07:43.340 have like a third person you were dating? Like you'll date a guy here, guy there. So

00:07:49.800 someone I met in 2017, I thought I'd probably cash it in and end up with that maybe permanently.

00:07:57.240 Sorry. Cash, like cash it in. Like trade in every, everything else, my freedom, other

00:08:00.820 opportunity, whatever, and pick this person. Um, and that failed after a few very romantic

00:08:06.420 years. So that was about five years, maybe six. I'd have to go back and look. And the two

00:08:10.840 men that you're dating, uh, we didn't, we, we hung it up for those years. Okay. Uh, but

00:08:16.920 the two men that you have been dating for the past 18 years, you mentioned that you're, I'm

00:08:21.500 sorry. Uh, was it professional, not professional gold digger. What was it? You can say that.

00:08:26.300 I don't mind. Okay. Uh, are you, did you gold dig them? I mean, they're, they're wealthy.

00:08:33.840 Yeah. That's my type. That's the sort I like. What's the, like, what is the procedure for,

00:08:39.140 for gold digging? I don't know. Like what's the process? Walk me through. I only know my

00:08:43.040 life. Um, yeah. So I can't speak for everyone else. Maybe they get you nice gifts. They fly

00:08:48.740 you out. Sure. She flies herself. I mean, that takes a long time in little planes. So not

00:08:54.220 usually. I like being back and let the pilots work. Do you own, maybe you own a, do you own

00:08:58.260 a private plane or anything? Can we next? Okay. That'd be what you could, you could try

00:09:04.740 to gold dig a plane, right? That's like, that would be a good, put it on the resume. I'm

00:09:08.720 fine. I'm fine for transportation. Somebody bought me a plane. That's a, that's a W, right?

00:09:13.420 Okay. What about you? I've been single for two years. All right. Two years, longest, uh,

00:09:19.060 relationship, any relationships? Uh, yeah. One year. One year. Okay. All right. Uh, and that

00:09:25.880 was in Australia, I'm assuming. Yeah. Uh, was he, I've heard this term bogan. Was, was

00:09:32.660 he a bogan? Yeah. I could say that. Can you explain just for the viewers and the panel

00:09:37.580 who might not know what a bogan is? Um, it's just like their lingo. It's like how they speak

00:09:44.640 and like what they do, like walk around in thongs all the time and like shorts and like

00:09:49.940 sandals. Yeah. That's Australian for, Australian for sandals. Yeah. And like singlets. It's like

00:09:58.820 singlets. Yeah. Like just like, like wrestling singlets. Like they just, they just pin somebody

00:10:04.860 or text them or something. Okay. Uh, okay. What about you? I've been single for like a month

00:10:11.320 or two. Oh, uh, how long were you? Sorry about that. Uh, how long were you dating that guy?

00:10:17.720 Three years. Oh, rip. Uh, frat guy. Was it a frat guy? Yeah, but I knew him before he joined

00:10:24.940 a frat. Okay. So you said single for one month? Yeah, about. Or so. And now, was that your

00:10:31.080 longest relationship? Yeah. Three years. Okay. Uh, why did you guys break up? Um, it just

00:10:37.940 didn't work out. Didn't work out. Yeah. Who broke up with who? Um, I guess you could

00:10:44.560 say he broke up with me, but. Yeah. What did you do? What did you do to him? I didn't,

00:10:51.120 I didn't necessarily do anything. It was just more of the fact that like. Did you slash his

00:10:54.260 tires? No, I'm not crazy. I swear. But, um, we broke up because of like cultural differences.

00:11:02.620 Oh. Uh, what's he like? He, he was Arab.

00:11:07.940 Mm-hmm. Yeah. So what, what were the differences that were sticking points in the relationship?

00:11:12.840 Like culturally, like if we were to get married, it wouldn't work out. Like I would have to

00:11:17.580 convert to Islam. Mm. Are you religious at all or? Not really. Not really. But you,

00:11:23.900 so you didn't want to convert basically? No. Okay. And you dated him for three years? Yeah. Did

00:11:30.180 you, did, was this like, uh, something that came along later on in the relationship? I mean. Or

00:11:35.640 was he always kind of like. We talked about it, but like, we never like really talked about

00:11:40.860 it until, yeah, recently. Is there a doubt, would there have been a dowry? Is that part

00:11:47.280 of, I don't know how it works. What do you mean? The dowry? Like you would pay, I think

00:11:53.960 you or like the, your family would pay, was it a bride price or something? I don't know.

00:11:57.700 I don't know how it works. That's very serious Islam. I don't think that would. That, no.

00:12:01.420 No. In any case, cultural differences. Okay. Uh, and so you guys, uh, split up. You've

00:12:07.320 been single for one month. Any, any rebounds? No. Focusing on myself. Like SIGUP? Any guys

00:12:13.340 from SIGUP? SIGUP. No. No SIGUP rebounds? No SIGUP rebounds? No SIGUP rebounds. Do you guys

00:12:18.620 have a pike? No. Charlie, were you in the fraternity? We had pikes. I didn't go to college. Didn't? Oh, that's

00:12:23.480 point. I didn't go to college. Okay. Yeah, yeah. Uh, okay. So no, no rebound then. Okay.

00:12:30.700 Yeah, no. But are you, uh, you kind of taking a break or you, uh, you know, you're looking

00:12:34.640 for a new, a new boo? No, definitely not. Definitely not. Okay. What about you? Um, I've been

00:12:41.060 single for like a year and a bit. One year. Okay. Yeah. And any relationships? Have you had

00:12:48.720 a relationship? Oh yeah. Um, for like five months, but we broke up like a year and a bit

00:12:52.780 ago. Okay. Was he also a Bogan? Yeah, he was like an Esche. Oh, I don't, what is

00:12:57.520 that? What is that? Oh, like he wears like TNs and like, he has like tattoos everywhere

00:13:00.960 and like, he's got like a rat's tail. A rat tail? Yeah, like a ratty. It's like a little

00:13:06.080 plat. A ratty? Is that what they're called? Ratties. Okay. Um, and yeah, he was a bit

00:13:09.920 of a Bogan. Yeah. Yeah. How do you define Bogan? Like, it's kind of like redneck, right?

00:13:14.980 Kind of like really Aussie. Like really Aussie. Like I don't really know how to define

00:13:19.440 it, but kind of just like Aussie and like, you're just like, yeah. Like, I don't even

00:13:26.060 know how to define it. Okay. All right. Yeah. Just like a really like big Aussie. Big Aussie.

00:13:30.500 Yeah. He was overweight. Oh, no, no. Oh, okay. No, like a big Aussie. As in like, it was

00:13:35.760 really, really Aussie. Oh, okay. Yeah. Okay. All right. All right. What about you? Um, I'm

00:13:41.900 single. I have been for a year and a couple months. Um, my longest relationship consecutively

00:13:47.900 was a few months, like maybe three months, but it was kind of on and off for four years.

00:13:51.640 And is that the one that ended about a year ago? No. Okay. So, but your longest relationship

00:13:56.980 was a few months, but it was on again, off again for a couple of years. Yeah. Okay. How

00:14:01.780 many times on and off or off and on rather? Oh God. Dozens. If not hundreds. Wait, hundreds.

00:14:08.960 Yeah. He was real into drugs. Oh. That would do it. Yeah. That would do it. Um, which, what

00:14:14.900 was his drug of choice? Meth. Oh. Did you partake? No, no, no. Oh, okay. Not you, but

00:14:22.720 he, wait. So you said you on and off hundreds of times. How early on into the, this multi-year

00:14:32.760 long off again, on again relationship, did you find out he was on meth?

00:14:38.960 Um, like the first time you guys broke up? No. So I met him in middle school and then

00:14:44.560 it was kind of like a talking stage kind of thing for a couple of years and we started

00:14:48.340 dating. Um, and then it was on and off again and probably about three years in is when he

00:14:54.400 was like, Oh yeah, I tried meth. And I was like, Oh, okay. And he assured me that he was

00:14:58.320 not going to do it again and he did not like it. Um, and then we got back together and about

00:15:05.140 two years later, he was like, yeah, no, I saw my body under the pier for meth. And

00:15:08.480 I was like, Oh, okay. Wait, you, what about his body? He would prostitute himself for meth.

00:15:13.680 Oh, that's horrible. Uh, what? Hold on. To, um, yeah. I hate that for us. To men, like

00:15:25.860 he would, to men, to men and you were dating him during this time. Yeah. It was not a good

00:15:32.500 moment. I think you win the whatever podcast. That's pretty wild. No, no, no. No need to

00:15:36.940 apologize. Um, uh, okay. Is he okay now? Oh, I don't really know. The last time I talked

00:15:45.080 to him, he, it was like a year ago when I bought my house and he was like, Oh, congrats

00:15:49.840 on life. And I was like, good to know you're alive, dude. So, yeah. Huh? Uh, okay. So

00:15:56.460 off, off again, on again, hundreds of times. Uh, all right. We'll come back to that a little.

00:16:01.480 I'll just write down meth. Okay. Uh, what about you? That'll remind me. Go ahead. What

00:16:07.120 about you? I am married and my longest relationship was about 12 years. Is that your current?

00:16:12.800 That was my ex-husband. Is it? So this is your second marriage? Correct. Okay. And you

00:16:17.100 have kids? We do not. How long have you been married? April 5th. So a couple months. And

00:16:23.280 how long were you dating before? A year and a half or two years. So you've been together for

00:16:27.300 about two years now? Yes. Okay. Two years and no kids at all? No kids. Do you want kids?

00:16:34.540 No. No kids. Um, don't want kids. Okay. Do not like kids. Cannot have kids. Don't, don't

00:16:40.440 like, oh, can't have kids. Correct. I had some medical issues about five years ago and got

00:16:45.160 her taken out. Oh, like a hysterectomy? Yeah. Oh, okay. Sorry to hear that. All right. And

00:16:50.800 well, before that though, were you inclined to have kids or still not so much? I've never

00:16:55.400 really had the maternal instinct. Um, I've always been very career and school driven.

00:17:00.660 Mm-hmm. Okay. All right. Uh, and your previous marriage, that was the one that was 12 years,

00:17:08.440 correct? Yeah, we are married for eight of those. And put together for 12. Okay. All right.

00:17:14.180 And Charlie, uh, I think you kind of went over it a little bit. I got to hit the top points.

00:17:18.720 So, so married for how long? Married. Um, we've been married, we got married in May of

00:17:22.960 21. So that is, uh, three years. And then together, how long total? Uh, five and a half

00:17:28.300 years. Yeah. All right. Got it. And two kids under two. Two kids. Congrats. Boy, girl or?

00:17:34.780 Yeah. Uh, boy, girl combo. All right. Girl is older. How many, how many kids total are you

00:17:38.960 aiming for? Uh, we'll see. Like a whole, uh, battalion? Yeah, we'll see. They, they, uh, a quiver

00:17:44.340 is supposed to be five. So we'll see. I don't think we'll get there. What's that, what's that

00:17:47.580 verse about children are a gift from the Lord. It's something along the lines of quiver, which

00:17:53.160 is five. So there's this verse though. And it's something along the lines of, uh, children in a

00:17:58.480 man's youth are like arrows in the hand, something I'm totally butchering. It's the quiver verse.

00:18:03.360 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So five ish, but I don't think we'll get there, but we're, we're super blessed.

00:18:07.340 Okay. Perfect. Cool. Cool. All right. So that's everybody's relationship status. Charlie. I mean,

00:18:11.760 I'd like to, uh, you heard a couple of the, uh, girl's stories here. I don't know if you

00:18:15.520 had any that you want. I'm curious about the, um, the, the gold digging thing. Do both men

00:18:20.960 know about each other? They do. And are, are they married or are they single? They're single

00:18:25.040 and they're, they're cool with that. Yeah. Everybody's different. No, just tell me more.

00:18:30.800 I'm curious about it. What would you like to know? Do they pay you? Uh, not in so much as actual

00:18:36.940 handing me buckets of cash. That'd be cool though. Um, but yeah, both of them have been very

00:18:41.360 generous. I like things that way. Okay. Keeps the schedule freer too. So we can all

00:18:46.000 see each other. Do they, have they ever met? No. And so they, they're in like different

00:18:51.080 dude. Would you mind if they met? Uh, with me? Are you, are you talking about like biblically

00:18:56.100 or something? No, I'm not my thing. No, I'm fine. I'm just curious. Like if they were ever

00:19:00.200 to like meet each other, that'd be up. Sure. Whatever. Okay. Interesting. Nick, if you can

00:19:05.920 change the split back to it. Yeah. Um, did you have any other? No, I'm just, okay.

00:19:10.560 Why not three more money, right? I think everything in moderation, especially

00:19:18.760 moderation. So, so two is moderation for me. It's what works. It's I, I like my life

00:19:24.740 as it is. So that's what works. If maybe I'll change, decide differently tomorrow. Cool.

00:19:29.640 No, I, I, I'm, it's a, it's a brave new world for me. I'm just learning. Okay. Uh, I

00:19:36.420 wanted to ask Charlie, do you have any plans to, uh, run for political office? No, I do

00:19:40.940 not. No plans. No, I'm very happy the way I am. No, no, I'm too young actually. Oh, you

00:19:45.280 have to be 35. Yeah, that's right. I'm only 30. So I'm very happy with the life we have

00:19:49.380 right now. So yeah, super blessed. Not even in the future? No, no, no. You don't want

00:19:53.820 it? No. Yeah. Okay. No, I, I love hosting radio, love doing the podcast, love doing

00:19:59.480 books, traveling the country. So, okay. Got it. I want to start off the show. We're going

00:20:03.520 to react to a clip. Oh wait, I, did I pull it up of mine? Uh, no, no, not of yours, but

00:20:09.300 I definitely want you to weigh out when weigh in on it. Excuse me. So Nick, it's actually

00:20:13.580 in the Dropbox folder. I forgot to put it on one of the tabs. It's, uh, let me get you,

00:20:19.120 I'm going to see if I can just send you the link, but one sec, actually just go ahead,

00:20:24.880 pull up the Dropbox folder. My bad. Forgot to get this pulled up. It's, uh,

00:20:29.480 Dropbox and then the videos tab. Uh, podcast. Podcast folder. Nope. Nope. Nope. In there.

00:20:38.480 Podcast. So it's actually right there. The first one, the first video. Wait, no, no, no.

00:20:43.300 It's not the, it's, it's in this one. Yeah. That one. Uh, you should actually just pull

00:20:48.820 it over to the tab. Do you want to know one of this tab? Can you get the audio please?

00:20:52.380 Okay. Can you pull it over please? You got it? Yeah. Were you able to like pull it into

00:20:59.460 one of the tabs? Yeah. Okay. All right. Oops. Oh, that laptop came out of nowhere. Okay.

00:21:05.240 Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick. Okay. Wow. All right. Uh, Nick, can you, okay. At the very bottom

00:21:19.620 there, Windows tutorial. Okay. Okay. And that, all right. Go ahead and, uh, start from the

00:21:27.920 beginning, please. All right. We're going to have you guys react to this. Do you want

00:21:34.040 to know one of the saddest realizations I recently had was that as a liberal woman, it is really

00:21:40.220 hard to find a man who is willing to play the more traditional masculine role in the relationship

00:21:46.760 in today's day and age, who is not a conservative, a man who wants to pay on the first date, who

00:21:52.600 wants to open your door, who has that want and desire to take care of you and to provide

00:21:57.780 who is not a conservative. And obviously as a liberal woman, I do want to be respected

00:22:02.200 for my independence. And I do want to have my own autonomy in the relationship and not

00:22:06.520 be confined or conform to the traditional female homemaker childbearing role. And most

00:22:14.740 of the men that I've dated who do have that more natural provider masculinity about them

00:22:19.860 are normally conservative. So I don't really know what to do because I don't want to compromise

00:22:24.200 my morals and values just to find a man. But am I asking to have my cake and eat it too?

00:22:31.140 All right. So we're going to get the girls' reactions just going around the table.

00:22:35.700 So what are your thoughts on the clip? And do you think that liberal women deserve chivalrous

00:22:42.620 treatment? Starting with you, go ahead.

00:22:44.280 My question is, is liberal the same as progressive for the most part?

00:22:51.540 Yeah, they're largely synonymous.

00:22:52.620 They're pretty much synonymous, right?

00:22:54.220 They're cousins. They're not exactly the same.

00:22:55.500 I think because of that, it'll be hard for her to find somebody who's, you know, anti,

00:23:02.540 who has anti-liberal morals while still being progressive at the same time.

00:23:06.100 With that being said, I think she is also grouping morals into just like political values, which

00:23:12.640 is kind of dumb. I think she can find a guy who's morally in the right place with his head

00:23:19.240 and still doesn't mind that, you know, she goes to work. I don't know.

00:23:24.200 Okay.

00:23:24.940 Yeah.

00:23:25.900 Your thoughts?

00:23:26.840 I actually agree with everything you just said because I feel like that's the only type of guys

00:23:30.620 I date. Like every guy I've dated feds under that. So it's not that rare.

00:23:34.960 Wait, every guy you've dated fits under what?

00:23:37.120 What? The type of guy that she described she's looking for.

00:23:39.580 So like liberal, feminist, progressive?

00:23:43.200 I don't date conservative men. Men are like straight up conservative.

00:23:46.820 But you still get the traditional treatment.

00:23:49.820 Yeah.

00:23:50.240 Okay. All right. What about you?

00:23:54.480 I don't really have an opinion.

00:23:56.980 Do you think men should pay on the first date? Everybody?

00:23:59.680 For the most part, yeah.

00:24:00.760 Yes.

00:24:01.020 It shows your role as like you're willing and provider-like.

00:24:03.980 Like...

00:24:04.420 Oh, I totally agree.

00:24:05.340 Yeah. Any guy who went 50-50 with me is like...

00:24:08.020 So what do you think of the feminist movement that says women should go 50-50?

00:24:11.680 What do you guys think of that? Unlike the first... On dates.

00:24:13.880 I'm totally down for that. And then we're friends for life.

00:24:17.040 We're not dating if we're going 50-50. I go 50-50 with my guy friends.

00:24:22.200 Personally.

00:24:23.380 Well, so yeah, we'll go around the table. Who should pay on the first date?

00:24:26.420 Okay. Can you tilt the microphone down just a tad?

00:24:30.200 If it's an actual date, it's the man.

00:24:31.960 A little more. Yeah. Okay. What about you?

00:24:35.140 The man.

00:24:35.860 The man?

00:24:37.380 I think it depends on who asked... Like who asked the person on the date.

00:24:42.620 So like if I asked my boyfriend on a date...

00:24:46.240 Well, so first date.

00:24:47.880 Oh.

00:24:48.160 This is for first date?

00:24:50.600 Or even your boyfriend? You would pay with your boyfriend? Wow.

00:24:53.380 Or like...

00:24:54.820 Like say if I initiated the first date, then I feel like I should pay.

00:24:58.920 Okay.

00:24:59.480 Well, with your boyfriend...

00:25:02.120 When you guys go on dates, you've been dating for three years.

00:25:05.640 Do you guys kind of...

00:25:07.480 Is it 50-50?

00:25:08.820 Or how is it with your boyfriend?

00:25:10.280 I mean, he like usually initiates to pay.

00:25:12.680 But I try to pay and help.

00:25:16.100 What do you mean you try?

00:25:17.140 Or like because he doesn't let me.

00:25:19.580 Okay. So like overwhelmingly for like dates and stuff, he'll pay?

00:25:23.180 Yeah.

00:25:23.800 Okay. And then before you met him, if you were going on first dates, what was your experience there?

00:25:31.580 He'll usually pay.

00:25:33.360 The guy will pay?

00:25:34.640 Because you said whoever asked should pay.

00:25:36.160 For first dates, have you ever asked a guy out?

00:25:38.420 No.

00:25:39.200 Interesting. Okay.

00:25:40.700 What about you? Who should pay on a first date?

00:25:43.420 So that's... She's correct.

00:25:44.620 That's the typical etiquette rule is whoever asked is the payer.

00:25:49.180 For me in my romantic life, I like generous men, as we've talked about ad nauseum.

00:25:52.740 So I would not be attracted to a guy who wanted me to pay.

00:25:54.920 Has it been ad nauseum?

00:25:56.540 Not yet.

00:25:56.880 I don't know if it's been ad nauseum yet.

00:25:59.180 Okay.

00:26:00.100 What about you?

00:26:00.740 I think the guy, but I honestly don't mind.

00:26:05.060 Like I wouldn't go 50-50 with the bill.

00:26:07.600 I would rather pay the full amount or he like pay the full amount.

00:26:11.260 You know what I mean?

00:26:12.400 Okay. Sure.

00:26:12.940 But yeah.

00:26:16.040 Yeah.

00:26:16.700 Typically, I think usually the guy should pay for the first date.

00:26:20.420 But then I feel like after you guys have been, like, dating for a while, then usually, like, in my past experience, I would take turns.

00:26:29.420 Like, if I'm paying for dinner, then he would pay for, like, dessert.

00:26:33.220 Well, you were in a relationship for three years, right?

00:26:35.240 So was that in your three-year relationship?

00:26:37.300 Mike Davis donated $300.

00:26:39.900 Yeah, thank you, Mike Davis.

00:26:40.620 I don't hold that view for the record.

00:26:49.480 Charlie, you have a lifetime free pass at BK.

00:26:52.420 Burger King?

00:26:52.840 Keep America great.

00:26:54.020 He owns, like, a hundred.

00:26:55.940 Does he really?

00:26:56.400 That's him.

00:26:57.120 Mike Davis.

00:26:57.700 He's a longtime supporter.

00:26:58.760 Are you serious?

00:26:59.300 That's Mike Davis.

00:27:00.300 He owns...

00:27:00.900 I want to meet him.

00:27:01.620 That's cool.

00:27:02.020 We'll arrange it.

00:27:03.220 He owns, like, hundreds of Burger King.

00:27:05.580 He can be nicer, but I would like to meet him.

00:27:07.680 Yeah, he's a little sassy.

00:27:09.700 He's a little sassy, but thank you, Mike Davis.

00:27:11.540 He could be a sweeter person.

00:27:12.840 Wait, so going back to you with your relationship, you know, what was the dynamic there?

00:27:18.600 Definitely when we first started dating, he would pay for a lot more because he had, like,

00:27:23.200 a source of income.

00:27:24.640 Okay.

00:27:25.120 And then the longer that, like, we started dating, it definitely went more 50-50, but

00:27:30.780 also it kind of depended, like, if I wanted to go somewhere more expensive, but he, like,

00:27:36.480 didn't want to eat there, then I would pay because I want to go there.

00:27:39.700 What about you?

00:27:41.360 I'm, like, 50-50.

00:27:42.760 Like, it doesn't really matter, but, like, on first date, I feel like it would be good

00:27:46.860 if a guy could pay just for, like, a good impression, like, gentleman, but when it comes

00:27:51.080 to, like, further down the track, like, it doesn't really matter.

00:27:54.560 All right.

00:27:54.900 I think it should be 50-50 regardless of who asked.

00:28:00.140 Okay.

00:28:00.740 What about you?

00:28:01.680 I think the guy should pay.

00:28:02.920 I think it shows that they have more of a provider mindset.

00:28:06.160 All right.

00:28:06.720 I do want to get some follow-up a little bit on the clip.

00:28:09.900 We'll come back to it momentarily.

00:28:11.460 Charlie, who should pay on a first date?

00:28:12.520 Yes.

00:28:12.540 Men should always pay regardless of what date it is.

00:28:14.800 Yes.

00:28:15.120 Okay.

00:28:16.020 Yeah, no matter.

00:28:16.560 Men should always pay.

00:28:17.680 No questions asked.

00:28:18.380 Even if you have to go into debt, borrow money, it's a complete humiliation or embarrassment to

00:28:21.760 have a woman pay for a date.

00:28:23.160 All right.

00:28:23.660 There you go.

00:28:24.720 Do you agree?

00:28:25.600 Absolutely.

00:28:26.420 We agree?

00:28:27.460 Yes.

00:28:27.880 Yes, sir.

00:28:28.580 I think it's the downfall of a lot of things in society where we're asking women to pay

00:28:33.280 for meals.

00:28:34.500 Men should, you should look yourself in the mirror and figure it out if you want to court

00:28:39.020 a woman regardless if she, by the way, women shouldn't be asking men on dates.

00:28:42.680 I mean, not that there's anything wrong with it, but I'm saying, like, men should be the

00:28:45.160 assertive driving force.

00:28:46.560 But sometimes it happens the other way.

00:28:47.700 Okay.

00:28:48.380 And sort of a follow-up question on some of your guys' answers.

00:28:51.760 Do you, going around the table, do you consider yourself a feminist, starting with you?

00:28:56.200 Go ahead.

00:28:57.160 I feel like that word has been so misconstrued.

00:29:00.180 For example, like, feminism has given rights to even, like, men who have had S.A. in the

00:29:07.620 past and they're able to speak up on it now, or...

00:29:10.960 Feminism?

00:29:12.720 Feminism, it...

00:29:14.040 Oh, okay.

00:29:18.080 Yeah, I got it.

00:29:18.500 Yeah.

00:29:18.740 You just, for you two...

00:29:19.820 You know, I got it.

00:29:20.380 Now, I'm just trying to keep up with the lingo.

00:29:22.840 Yeah.

00:29:23.320 So, men who have experienced that, you know, women at one point weren't able to visit the

00:29:29.300 hospital without their husband.

00:29:30.360 And now it's given patient privacy in the sense that it's, like...

00:29:33.900 Wait, women...

00:29:34.460 Hold on.

00:29:35.180 Women were not allowed to get healthcare from a hospital.

00:29:39.120 Without their...

00:29:39.680 So, if they had their, like...

00:29:40.540 Male counterpart, president, or father.

00:29:41.240 They had, like, a limb chopped off back in the farming days or some shit.

00:29:45.300 I'm sure they had emergencies.

00:29:46.980 They couldn't go to a hospital.

00:29:48.360 I'm sure they had emergency.

00:29:49.620 But, like, in terms of checkups.

00:29:50.940 This is a new feminist talking point I've heard, that women were barred from getting

00:29:54.520 treated by a doctor in a hospital.

00:29:57.640 Without a man?

00:29:58.420 Yeah.

00:29:59.140 So, I think it's called patient privacy rights.

00:30:01.220 I think you just kind of manifested this out of nowhere.

00:30:03.200 Oh, no.

00:30:03.380 I, like, searched it up before I got here.

00:30:05.200 Women were barred from getting medical care.

00:30:08.160 Yes.

00:30:08.500 That's a new feminist talking point.

00:30:09.900 Okay.

00:30:10.040 However, let me finish.

00:30:11.580 Go ahead.

00:30:11.780 Just that one point.

00:30:12.860 I don't believe in a lot of modern feminist ideals.

00:30:15.660 I don't think men are worse than women.

00:30:18.460 I don't think women are better than men.

00:30:20.100 All that stuff.

00:30:20.940 So, do you consider yourself a feminist?

00:30:22.900 I, honestly, at this point in time, no.

00:30:26.700 Okay.

00:30:27.300 What about you?

00:30:28.340 As a nice, easy answer, yes.

00:30:30.320 Okay.

00:30:31.360 I think I'm just neutral on that topic.

00:30:35.700 Well, you gotta, okay, you kind of didn't want to react to the clip there.

00:30:41.060 You're neutral.

00:30:43.660 Okay, let me ask you a question to perhaps help things along.

00:30:47.700 Do you believe in a patriarchy?

00:30:49.460 That there is a patriarchy?

00:30:50.940 Into the mic, if you can?

00:30:53.980 Oh, I don't know.

00:30:55.360 You don't know?

00:30:56.700 Did you take any, like, feminist studies or sociology classes in university?

00:31:00.820 No.

00:31:01.700 Okay.

00:31:02.920 Do you think men run America?

00:31:05.560 No.

00:31:06.040 Okay.

00:31:09.860 Do you, I don't know.

00:31:11.600 I mean, I guess there's more, like, men, like, in positions.

00:31:17.260 I guess there's more men, like, in positions.

00:31:19.880 Okay.

00:31:20.180 And do you think that that's a problem?

00:31:21.740 Do you think there should be a movement towards egalitarianism?

00:31:25.080 Equalizing it, yeah.

00:31:25.820 Yeah.

00:31:29.740 I think it could go both ways.

00:31:32.500 Like, if a woman wants to step up, then.

00:31:36.220 Sure.

00:31:36.800 Yeah.

00:31:36.980 It's a bit of a non-answer, but so, do you think there ought to be a movement towards egalitarianism

00:31:49.240 and equality in all realms?

00:31:50.940 And do you think that a current social order, at least through the feminist standpoint of

00:31:57.880 there's this patriarchy, do you think we ought to dismantle a patriarchy, if there is one?

00:32:07.540 I mean, I think in the end, like, it could be equal, but I don't know.

00:32:15.700 Okay.

00:32:16.160 What about you?

00:32:16.920 So, can we define what you're using the word feminist?

00:32:22.980 My understanding was it was that women should have equal access to rights and pursuit of

00:32:29.140 happiness sort of thing, but I could be wrong on my definition.

00:32:31.720 Oh, yeah.

00:32:32.020 There's different.

00:32:32.420 There's second and third wave feminism.

00:32:33.780 Yeah, there's different.

00:32:34.380 First, second, and third wave.

00:32:35.540 I can define it if you want.

00:32:36.640 Yeah, absolutely.

00:32:37.360 Thank you.

00:32:37.780 Yeah.

00:32:38.060 So, first wave feminism would be, like, the equal rights amendment.

00:32:41.040 No, going back before that, universal suffrage, that women should be able to vote.

00:32:44.080 Second wave feminism was like Gloria Steinman, where she wrote The Feminist Mystique, where

00:32:48.560 she was rather nasty in her writing, saying that women are in a prison cell called the

00:32:54.540 home and barefoot and pregnant.

00:32:56.160 But that led to a lot of women in the workforce and a lot of career advancement for women for

00:33:02.640 positive or negative.

00:33:03.620 Third wave feminism is that any inequity that we see between men or women is inherently wrong.

00:33:08.740 So that, for example, if you have modeling, women should not earn more than men, and men

00:33:14.220 should not earn more than women.

00:33:16.340 You know, that if there's any inequity, third wave feminism is very much as, I forgot your

00:33:21.500 name, I'm sorry.

00:33:22.220 Karina.

00:33:22.720 Karina, you said it's rooted in a hatred of men more than the advancement of women.

00:33:26.080 That's third wave feminism.

00:33:27.760 Second wave feminism is more of a critique that child rearing, nuclear family development,

00:33:33.380 those things are largely negative, and that women should be allowed to be liberated beyond

00:33:37.760 that.

00:33:38.660 I'm generalizing, but that's first, second, and third wave feminism.

00:33:41.280 So first wave feminism goes back to the passing of, you know, universal suffrage and all that.

00:33:46.600 So I hope that's helpful.

00:33:47.460 Thank you.

00:33:47.860 Thanks.

00:33:48.240 I didn't know the history well enough.

00:33:50.640 Hating men is wrong and stupid.

00:33:53.460 We need them.

00:33:55.160 If you don't like them, we need them.

00:33:57.720 So that's weird.

00:33:58.340 And then I think it's a shame if anybody, I like a world where people can do what they

00:34:03.220 want, and that's a shame if people have been told that being a stay-at-home mother, all

00:34:08.000 these other things, having children, is lesser than, because it's not.

00:34:11.180 It's just different, and it's not lesser than.

00:34:13.500 So I believe that's wrong to us.

00:34:15.320 I guess it'd be a no.

00:34:16.000 Oh, yeah, absolutely.

00:34:16.580 Can I ask you a question?

00:34:17.400 Do you guys think that women, if we were to get into a war, should be enlisted in the

00:34:23.340 draft?

00:34:23.880 No.

00:34:24.500 No.

00:34:25.140 Does anybody think you should?

00:34:26.420 Because this is currently being debated in front of the Congress right now, the Senate.

00:34:31.660 Senate Democrats are pushing to say that men and women, if we were to get into a time

00:34:36.840 of a draft, which we had back in Vietnam, both should be drafted into war.

00:34:40.620 Does anyone think that that should happen?

00:34:43.240 That's how the Israeli army operates.

00:34:45.320 It's true.

00:34:45.840 Right?

00:34:46.400 But they don't necessarily put them at the front lines.

00:34:49.400 Well, I think Charlie was speaking about the United States.

00:34:52.520 I know.

00:34:52.820 But no, you're right.

00:34:53.180 I'm just kind of comparing.

00:34:53.760 The IDF does have it.

00:34:54.780 Yeah, I'm comparing two together.

00:34:58.460 I wouldn't want to, personally.

00:35:00.360 Okay, good.

00:35:00.960 How about any war or no war?

00:35:02.900 No war.

00:35:04.420 No.

00:35:06.060 I can get back to you.

00:35:07.120 Why are you torn?

00:35:09.000 I mean, are they going to pass the same physical standards?

00:35:11.280 Because then there'll just be fewer of them because of virtual sexual dimorphism.

00:35:13.720 They're accommodated for female fitness standards.

00:35:17.980 When military activity requires less physical strength and is more sort of hacking and flying drones from a building, perhaps women's military service could be different.

00:35:27.740 But does anyone think that women should be sheltered from the horrors of war and men should lead into the nastiest, ugliest things for society on behalf of society?

00:35:39.460 I've got to think about it.

00:35:40.820 It's a big question.

00:35:42.540 It's actively being debated right now.

00:35:43.960 And the reason I ask is because feminism, if it's implemented at its core premise, is they want equal outcomes but then also equal treatment.

00:35:54.620 Which is that if we go to war, women have to go storm Normandy Beach next time too, not just men.

00:36:01.960 Anybody?

00:36:02.400 I want you guys to answer that question, but let's actually get the answer to, are you a feminist?

00:36:09.120 I think so.

00:36:10.280 Okay.

00:36:10.680 Did you answer this?

00:36:11.760 Yes or no?

00:36:12.880 We can just get a yes or no?

00:36:14.320 Yeah.

00:36:15.660 I don't know if you answered it.

00:36:16.740 No, not a feminist?

00:36:18.880 Yes.

00:36:19.520 Yes.

00:36:20.080 A little louder, please.

00:36:21.180 Yes.

00:36:22.220 Yeah.

00:36:23.400 No.

00:36:24.520 I am not a feminist.

00:36:25.680 Not a feminist.

00:36:26.480 Charlie, feminist?

00:36:27.840 Whatever the opposite is, that's what I am.

00:36:29.840 Okay.

00:36:30.080 I mean, I love women, and I think women have a beautiful place to play in society, but especially third-wave feminism is a toxin on society.

00:36:37.940 And I think also the degradation of stay-at-home motherhood has been really, really dangerous and destructive for our society.

00:36:44.800 It should be celebrated as an option for women.

00:36:47.300 Sure.

00:36:47.980 And back to Charlie's question.

00:36:49.340 So going around the table, so this is something that's currently being contemplated.

00:36:52.680 I think, so my understanding is, they're also, instead of men having to register for the Selective Service, they're just automatically being...

00:37:00.680 Yeah, so that's right.

00:37:01.440 Everyone automatically gets enrolled, male or female.

00:37:04.260 Male and female.

00:37:04.760 Yeah.

00:37:05.040 And it passed the House, but it goes to the...

00:37:08.180 Well, they're debating it in the Senate Armed Services Committee, and it very well might pass.

00:37:11.960 Okay.

00:37:12.400 Which is just, I'm just curious what young ladies think of the perspective of maybe having to go into the military at the time of war.

00:37:21.060 So the question is, do you think women ought to be drafted or required to...

00:37:26.700 Or protected from the draft, which would be my position.

00:37:30.760 A lot of conflict going on.

00:37:31.960 So do you think women ought to be subject to forced military conscription, a.k.a. the draft, a.k.a. the Selective Service?

00:37:37.860 We'll just go around the table.

00:37:39.280 What about you?

00:37:40.220 I wouldn't say...

00:37:40.680 Can you strain your mic a little bit?

00:37:41.880 Sure.

00:37:42.280 I wouldn't say that they should.

00:37:43.740 Perfect.

00:37:44.520 However, perhaps they have to have a more concrete role in their place, either at home or if they choose to serve the country, to do it in a way where it's not at the front lines.

00:38:00.040 Can I interrupt?

00:38:01.960 But the front lines argument, I think, is a little bit disingenuous.

00:38:05.620 Because a drone operator is not the front lines, but you could kill more people as a drone operator than being on the...

00:38:10.980 So the question is, should we shield women from the ugliest front line massacre situations that we can imagine?

00:38:19.060 I would say to reach optimal results, if we're speaking on war, then yes.

00:38:23.860 Okay.

00:38:24.940 Yes, women should be drafted?

00:38:27.280 Yes, we should shield women from the draft.

00:38:29.340 But I want you also to think, sorry to interrupt, beyond results, too.

00:38:32.780 Do we have a moral obligation to protect women from bullets, missiles, and artillery shells?

00:38:39.300 It's an interesting question.

00:38:41.160 I mean, I think...

00:38:41.920 Not the missiles.

00:38:43.240 The other stuff I'm fine with.

00:38:44.560 But the missiles, I think they can get the missiles.

00:38:47.560 Go ahead.

00:38:48.520 I don't think women should be drafted because, at the end of the day, it wouldn't really help the war in any much way.

00:38:53.500 Like you said, the drone...

00:38:54.240 Whoa, that's a really sexist statement of you to make.

00:38:56.840 No, because I'm making front line, physical, you know what I mean?

00:39:00.660 Yeah.

00:39:00.820 Whereas if you're saying, oh, should they have a place in the war?

00:39:04.080 Yeah, I feel like if a woman wants to be able to be in the war...

00:39:06.400 Wants to be.

00:39:06.780 We're talking about force, though, right?

00:39:07.700 Yeah, no force.

00:39:08.500 But if a woman...

00:39:09.240 I feel like they definitely have a role in the war.

00:39:11.040 They're a good, smart, intelligent woman.

00:39:13.020 Can definitely advance the war for our side.

00:39:15.220 But you shouldn't just draft any and every woman in the terms of equality, you know?

00:39:20.120 Wait, you shouldn't?

00:39:20.960 In terms of...

00:39:21.580 Yes.

00:39:22.240 Wouldn't that not be equality, then?

00:39:24.120 Yeah, it wouldn't be equality in terms of a war.

00:39:26.080 But I'm okay with that.

00:39:27.560 But didn't you say you were a feminist?

00:39:29.580 Yeah.

00:39:30.060 I said, that's an easy answer.

00:39:31.080 I'm a feminist.

00:39:31.820 But like he said, there's so many...

00:39:33.140 Terms and conditions.

00:39:34.280 Yeah, there's so many nuances and so many things with feminism where I don't agree with everything he...

00:39:39.200 Like if he says, are you that type of feminist that he just described?

00:39:42.060 No, of course not.

00:39:42.880 Wait, which...

00:39:44.360 The type of feminist that's for actual equality?

00:39:47.020 Like the third wave, you mean?

00:39:47.940 Yeah, I'm not third wave.

00:39:49.160 Or even second wave to its full extent.

00:39:51.440 I'm not...

00:39:51.460 Well, what about the feminists that in pursuit of equality want women to be drafted?

00:39:57.580 Which is very few, I think, to be honest.

00:39:59.060 Yeah.

00:39:59.800 It's mostly men that are actually pushing for it in the Democrat Party.

00:40:02.820 Yeah, exactly.

00:40:02.940 I don't think many women want that easy.

00:40:04.720 Yeah.

00:40:04.740 Okay.

00:40:05.320 And by the way, just sorry to interrupt.

00:40:06.860 I don't mean to interrupt.

00:40:07.260 Absolutely.

00:40:07.480 Okay.

00:40:07.580 The women of America are largely silent on this.

00:40:10.380 And for as much people hate Donald Trump, he was the one that said women will never be drafted.

00:40:14.760 But I'm curious if we want to...

00:40:16.660 Yeah.

00:40:16.960 Well, just going around the table, do you think women should be subject to military conscription?

00:40:22.080 That's the original.

00:40:22.780 I think if they have, like, attributes that will proceed, then, like, then I think they

00:40:31.400 should.

00:40:32.580 But if it's not going to...

00:40:34.340 Well, it would just be a blanket general draft.

00:40:38.640 So, like, you're 2020, correct?

00:40:41.080 You're eligible.

00:40:41.780 You would be eligible for the draft.

00:40:43.300 Yeah, like, if I wanted to, then...

00:40:44.920 Not if you wanted to.

00:40:46.040 But, like, being forced?

00:40:47.480 Yeah, forced.

00:40:48.160 In Vietnam or World War II.

00:40:49.340 Every person.

00:40:49.980 Every able-bodied person.

00:40:50.860 How would you feel about going to war?

00:40:54.880 I mean, like, I wouldn't want to, but...

00:40:56.900 Like, if we go to war with Kazakhstan tomorrow, you're there.

00:41:00.700 You're in Kazakhstan.

00:41:01.820 Yo.

00:41:03.060 Are you...

00:41:03.780 I'm Uzbekki.

00:41:04.960 Oh, okay.

00:41:05.460 Wait, is there conflict?

00:41:06.520 No, it's just funny.

00:41:07.220 Oh, okay.

00:41:07.520 It was so random.

00:41:08.420 I don't know.

00:41:09.320 I didn't want to...

00:41:10.260 Anyways.

00:41:10.740 Yeah, that was pretty politically neutral, I guess.

00:41:12.880 Sorry, what was that, Nick?

00:41:13.680 You wanted to pull something up?

00:41:14.860 But so, yes in favor of the draft for women or no, not in favor?

00:41:18.860 I just think if everyone does go to war, then, like, everyone goes to war.

00:41:25.720 Okay.

00:41:26.240 What about you?

00:41:28.720 I look at it from a biological standpoint.

00:41:32.380 Like, if you think about animal husbandry, after war you tend to need to repopulate, right?

00:41:36.620 You have a lot of death.

00:41:37.480 Yeah.

00:41:37.640 So, sperm is abundant.

00:41:39.860 Uterus is busy for about a year, a little less, right?

00:41:42.620 So, when you do animal husbandry, you tend to need more females than a male.

00:41:47.500 Oddly, we have a 50-50 sex ratio.

00:41:49.160 I don't think anybody really understands why, because it probably shouldn't be.

00:41:51.340 But, that said, I think losing uteruses to war death is probably long-term more damaging from a society.

00:41:58.660 So, even if you hate men, like men, hate women, love men, you probably don't want to sacrifice the uterus people when you're going to need them.

00:42:06.140 The uterus people.

00:42:07.060 The women, right?

00:42:08.000 Because you're going to need them to repopulate.

00:42:09.500 So, I would not like a female draft.

00:42:11.560 Well, let's assume, like, the draft, you know, on a micro level, I think that argument makes sense.

00:42:18.780 But, on a macro level, what's 50,000?

00:42:22.380 You know?

00:42:24.040 It's not going to...

00:42:24.820 And you're a pilot.

00:42:25.700 You'd be front-line bombing.

00:42:27.320 Yeah.

00:42:27.980 Just dropping them from above.

00:42:29.260 But, let me ask you, would you feel as if it's consistent with your nature to get in a plane and drop bombs?

00:42:35.760 No.

00:42:36.980 I would not enjoy that.

00:42:39.040 If I was drafted and it was my service, I would do it, because I love my country.

00:42:42.360 But, I would prefer not to.

00:42:44.780 Well, there's been an attack on the whatever podcast.

00:42:47.540 Do you know about the Nightwitches in Russia?

00:42:48.800 Oh, yeah, no.

00:42:49.340 We've done it when we've had to...

00:42:50.880 Incredibly qualified, but these are largely volunteer.

00:42:53.900 Well, the Russian is not as much, but they have exemptions for their draft.

00:42:58.620 What do you think on this?

00:43:00.580 I think it's up to the individual themselves.

00:43:05.300 No, but, okay, so the question is, like, this would be something that's forced.

00:43:08.880 Oh.

00:43:11.160 So, okay, so currently, I know you're from Australia, but I suspect there's probably a military draft or conscription.

00:43:17.140 Yeah.

00:43:17.800 In Australia, where they have to register, the men have to register anyways.

00:43:21.040 So, in the United States, I assume it's the same in Australia, men have to register for something called the Selective Service,

00:43:26.900 which, in wartime, if the government opted to, you know, they couldn't find enough soldiers,

00:43:33.020 they could force people, force males, to join the war effort, become soldiers.

00:43:41.000 That's strictly men, currently, but Congress, the government, they're contemplating making it both men and women.

00:43:48.400 So, do you think women should also be subject to potential forced military conscription, a.k.a. the draft?

00:43:57.040 No.

00:43:58.300 Okay, what about you?

00:44:00.320 Yeah, no, I personally would not want to go to war.

00:44:03.220 But, okay, okay, so that's not the question.

00:44:05.820 You personally wouldn't want to go to war, right?

00:44:07.800 Yeah.

00:44:08.500 But, speaking in generalities here.

00:44:12.340 Yeah.

00:44:13.040 It would, because you're 21, so you would potentially be subject to the draft.

00:44:17.120 So, women should not, okay.

00:44:20.500 I don't really have, like, an opinion on it.

00:44:22.580 Like, I feel like if it happens, it happens.

00:44:25.120 If it doesn't, it doesn't.

00:44:27.040 I'm sorry, you guys are giving the most non-answer answers to this question,

00:44:31.020 but if it happens, it happens.

00:44:32.700 If it doesn't, it doesn't.

00:44:33.460 Yeah, like, it is what it is.

00:44:34.480 I don't know what that means.

00:44:36.720 I've read in.

00:44:37.240 Okay, all right, what about you?

00:44:38.860 For the sake of everything being 50-50, then yeah, sure, go for it.

00:44:42.700 What do you think over here?

00:44:44.060 I don't think women should be drafted.

00:44:45.980 I mean, I know women aren't necessarily frail,

00:44:49.840 but I know we are a lot weaker than men,

00:44:52.380 especially of the same size and stature.

00:44:54.220 I mean, they could beat us at any point in time unless, like, we have a gun.

00:44:58.620 Sure.

00:44:59.020 Granted, I know in war we probably would.

00:45:01.880 And then I think just the emotional trauma of, like, seeing somebody killed.

00:45:06.320 Females are more emotional than guys are generally,

00:45:09.960 and that would be a lot harder for us to get over.

00:45:13.780 So, and then I would imagine no one has a problem

00:45:16.740 if the war got really crazy for men being drafted, right?

00:45:20.940 I mean, just historically.

00:45:22.740 Right.

00:45:23.100 So then for those of you that said you were feminists,

00:45:26.320 do you see any inconsistency between saying that you want equality,

00:45:31.460 but you're cool with sending men to run into machine guns to protect your society?

00:45:35.280 Does anyone wrestle with that?

00:45:37.600 How do you reconcile that?

00:45:38.700 Yeah.

00:45:38.860 I didn't say it was a feminist, but it's definitely mental gymnastics.

00:45:48.020 No, but what I'm getting at, though, is that it's easy,

00:45:51.240 and I know that you have all been so polite, but let's just dive right into it.

00:45:54.340 It's easy at times to bash the patriarchy.

00:45:57.020 Taylor Swift just today was one of her songs,

00:45:59.280 F the patriarchy, and everyone in the concert screams that, right?

00:46:02.640 Can we Google that, Nick?

00:46:04.060 Well, it's a lyric to one of her songs of some name tag that was dropped,

00:46:07.340 but she says it like a rallying cry, like F the patriarchy.

00:46:10.520 When it comes down to it, it's like you're cool throwing men to the front lines of war,

00:46:14.400 but not yourself.

00:46:21.000 Why do you think the third wave has happened?

00:46:23.920 Do you think it's revenge?

00:46:25.200 Do you think it's a mind virus?

00:46:27.740 Well, I think it's a great question.

00:46:32.460 I think that it is an idea toxin where we have really denigrated having children

00:46:40.820 and staying at home for a lot of women, and some women that's the right path.

00:46:44.200 For some women it's not the right path, but for a lot of women it is the right path.

00:46:47.700 And there needs to be an ideological reason as to why you don't get married

00:46:53.900 and you don't have kids for the vast majority of the population,

00:46:57.240 and they developed feminism, where they said that for young women,

00:47:01.460 becoming a CEO of a shoe company is as fulfilling as having children.

00:47:05.640 And for some people that is true, but for a lot of people that's just not true.

00:47:09.480 And you look at the way Gloria Steinem wrote the feminist mystique,

00:47:16.620 it was, I feel as if I'm in an open-air prison, being a stay-at-home mom,

00:47:20.880 barefoot and pregnant basically, being in the kitchen,

00:47:23.900 and it started this whole push which is where we are the same as men.

00:47:28.520 And that's the problem of third-wave feminism is that it ties with the trans movement

00:47:31.400 is they don't believe there's any sort of biological differences between men and women,

00:47:34.700 which we all agree is insane, right?

00:47:36.140 That men and women are made completely differently.

00:47:38.780 And, yeah, I think it's an intellectual and ideological cancer that needs to be crushed.

00:47:44.400 And I think deep down most people don't even believe it.

00:47:46.140 And the draft argument actually, I think, really draws that out,

00:47:50.200 where when it comes down to it, most American women are okay sending men to war,

00:47:54.780 which you should be, by the way.

00:47:55.920 Do you young ladies, like if you feel like you say,

00:47:59.240 I'd like to marry and be a stay-at-home mom and not work,

00:48:03.460 if any of you would say that, I don't know.

00:48:05.480 Do you feel like other people would shame you that you get more social clout by saying something else?

00:48:11.000 I think it's praised right now to be a stay-at-home mom.

00:48:13.520 Okay.

00:48:14.220 At least from my social circles.

00:48:15.800 Interesting.

00:48:17.720 That's a new phenomenon.

00:48:18.920 Before we do move on, I'm not going to allow...

00:48:21.460 I can speak on that.

00:48:22.120 Hold on, hold on.

00:48:23.080 I'm not going to allow you guys to weasel your way out of Charlie's question here.

00:48:27.100 So just a show of hands, who of you guys said you were feminists?

00:48:31.880 I believe you and then you.

00:48:36.040 Oh, come on.

00:48:36.760 Don't, don't, don't, don't reel it back here.

00:48:41.220 So both of you said you're feminists,

00:48:44.200 but you also said you're non-favor of women being subject to military conscription.

00:48:50.120 It occurs to me that feminism, in the most, I guess, generous definition I could give it,

00:48:55.080 is a movement towards equality.

00:48:56.940 That's not honestly the definition I would give it,

00:48:59.220 but to be charitable, I'll give it that.

00:49:02.680 So how do you...

00:49:03.740 Kirk Davis donated $300.

00:49:05.060 Kirk, I'm a fan, but stop that corporate nice Christian boy facade.

00:49:10.680 America is on its last leg being overrun by illegals and degenerates.

00:49:14.920 Oh, wow, okay.

00:49:15.720 A time for being nice and a time for war.

00:49:18.400 Now is time for war.

00:49:20.180 This is Burger King, guys.

00:49:20.740 This is Burger King.

00:49:21.540 It's Mike Davis.

00:49:22.740 All right, Mike Davis.

00:49:23.520 Thank you, man.

00:49:23.920 Appreciate it.

00:49:24.860 That's why men should be in war.

00:49:26.960 Yeah.

00:49:27.300 A woman would never say that.

00:49:28.380 Because they...

00:49:28.880 It's time for war.

00:49:30.640 I don't...

00:49:31.240 I've never uttered that phrase in my life.

00:49:33.120 No, that's a very smart point, actually.

00:49:34.620 And so, back to my question, those of you who consider yourself feminist,

00:49:39.440 how do you reconcile being a feminist, being for equality,

00:49:44.320 but also not being in favor of women being subject to forced military conscription

00:49:49.360 the same way that men are?

00:49:50.560 Go ahead.

00:49:50.840 Because feminism isn't just feminism, as in if you're a feminist, you have to agree with

00:49:56.460 every single thought and every single idea that every feminist pushes forward, like the draft, for example.

00:50:02.220 Well, it's not...

00:50:03.220 It's not clear to me if that's a feminist, like, specifically a feminist position.

00:50:10.840 Well, then, if I'm not a feminist under your eyes, then that's fine.

00:50:14.240 I just...

00:50:14.600 Would you acknowledge, though, that that would be a pure equality between men and women?

00:50:18.820 Yeah.

00:50:19.060 So, you're not in favor of equality when it doesn't stand to benefit women?

00:50:25.300 Yeah, but again, I never pushed for 100% equality within feminism.

00:50:29.080 So, you only want the equality that benefits women?

00:50:31.640 No.

00:50:32.000 I want the equality that benefits humanity.

00:50:34.400 Okay, so...

00:50:34.960 Like, as a society.

00:50:35.960 No, okay, so if that is...

00:50:37.880 Are you guys then okay when you find out that women might earn less in the workforce than men?

00:50:42.860 Yeah, if it falls under that same...

00:50:44.820 Okay, you're consistent.

00:50:45.500 But if it's humanity and society, then yeah.

00:50:47.360 Okay.

00:50:48.140 I mean, I think women should be...

00:50:49.720 If the women are doing the same exact job and producing the same exact amount, quantity, and quality of work,

00:50:57.780 I think they should be paid the same.

00:50:58.860 Yeah.

00:50:59.340 But generally, that's not the case.

00:51:01.700 No, you're right.

00:51:02.400 Yeah, the law, you can't discriminate based on sex.

00:51:05.680 But usually, there's a lot of other factors, such as where you went to school, what you studied.

00:51:10.540 So, yeah, I'm just trying to flush out the consistency or lack thereof here.

00:51:16.500 Yeah.

00:51:16.820 I don't ever think it's men versus women.

00:51:18.800 It's like masculine complements the feminine.

00:51:21.100 So, I think the new wave feminism, if they're talking about, hey, women are better than men,

00:51:26.300 that's like the dumbest thing that you can ever say.

00:51:29.060 Okay.

00:51:29.300 I think women complement men, which goes back to your, you know, draft concept.

00:51:36.560 Well, I'd like to ask you another question here.

00:51:38.220 Do you think women should be barred from volunteering for the military?

00:51:41.740 No.

00:51:42.540 Well, that's interesting.

00:51:44.240 They shouldn't be barred from volunteering, but they should be barred from being forced

00:51:48.860 into conscription, despite men being forced into potential conscription.

00:51:55.460 I'm a little confused there.

00:51:56.360 What's confusing about that?

00:51:57.740 Well, why would you, if you're fine with women volunteering, why would you object to

00:52:01.660 women being forced?

00:52:03.020 I feel like we made so many points on why women shouldn't be in war.

00:52:06.300 Do I have to go over them again?

00:52:08.080 I can.

00:52:08.420 Did you make points?

00:52:09.220 I'm not sure.

00:52:10.200 Yeah, I did, actually.

00:52:11.340 Like, for example, a woman being sent out to war.

00:52:14.520 Well, actually, let's use her example.

00:52:15.840 That was one of the best ones.

00:52:17.340 If we send half women, half men to war, and we lose an incredible amount of population,

00:52:22.020 what would it be of the country and our workforce?

00:52:24.400 Well, let's assume, let's assume.

00:52:25.940 Women are the ones that are able to have one child at a time.

00:52:29.040 Some occasions, two, three, if you have twins, triplets, whatever.

00:52:32.420 But one man can produce how many kids in a year?

00:52:35.240 One man can repopulate a population so much quicker than a woman can.

00:52:39.160 Okay, well, let's assume the conflict we get involved in is similar to Vietnam,

00:52:42.940 where it's not like we're drafting, like, huge swaths of the U.S. population.

00:52:47.000 It's more like, I just Googled it.

00:52:49.320 I think the United States military conscripted 2 million service personnel

00:52:54.100 throughout the course of Vietnam War.

00:52:56.520 World War II is way more than that.

00:52:57.840 Yeah.

00:52:58.580 So, I mean, if we'd lost, you know, a million from a population perspective,

00:53:05.120 I don't think it would be catastrophic.

00:53:07.100 But again, those one million women aren't just one million women randomly.

00:53:12.020 They're occupying special type of forces.

00:53:14.220 Like, for example, teachers.

00:53:15.520 How many teachers would we lose because of that?

00:53:17.680 What do you mean?

00:53:17.900 We would get, like, 18 to 22-year-olds.

00:53:21.620 They're in the middle of doing OnlyFans or college or something.

00:53:25.940 All of Isla Vista would end up being the Marines.

00:53:28.500 So let me, can I ask them?

00:53:33.400 Okay.

00:53:34.000 The broad aces donated $300.

00:53:36.920 Get rid of those silly Australian headbands twins.

00:53:40.360 I have been to Australia and all their women are like them.

00:53:43.840 Replace them with Jojo Lecce bags.

00:53:46.780 Charlie Cook looks like he's battling Metro Man.

00:53:50.340 Metro Man?

00:53:51.400 Anyone know what that means?

00:53:52.440 I have no idea what.

00:53:53.540 I think they're saying you're looking at my dress up for that one.

00:53:55.380 Oh, really?

00:53:56.040 Great.

00:53:56.400 We're in.

00:53:57.980 Okay.

00:53:58.600 Thank you.

00:53:59.140 Appreciate it, I guess.

00:53:59.980 That was, like, cute.

00:54:01.440 It's so random.

00:54:02.780 Oh, I see what happened there.

00:54:03.920 Okay.

00:54:04.780 All right.

00:54:05.620 Where were we?

00:54:06.420 We were...

00:54:07.240 I forgot.

00:54:07.960 Can I just ask a question?

00:54:09.020 So if you are with your boyfriend or husband and there's a home intruder in the house,

00:54:14.560 who would you expect your husband to put himself first into that situation to take care of it?

00:54:21.300 Absolutely.

00:54:22.640 I mean...

00:54:23.020 Or husband, boyfriend, or male counterpart.

00:54:24.700 I mean, I know my husband and I have had this conversation multiple times.

00:54:26.800 I mean, we have multiple guns in the house and he's told me, he's like, go hide in the bathroom and hide in the closet.

00:54:32.800 He's like, I'll take care of you.

00:54:34.440 I mean, and I know where the guns are and I know how to use them just in case he dies for some reason.

00:54:41.300 Or I can, you know, shoot and hopefully scare somebody away.

00:54:44.680 Right.

00:54:45.380 I think you were maybe in the middle of making a point.

00:54:48.140 You said, well, that they would be teachers.

00:54:51.300 And so that's why we shouldn't draft them.

00:54:52.980 Well, you were saying how, like, one million women dying doesn't really hurt society.

00:54:56.520 And I was saying that it does because women have a higher amount of, like, in certain roles, like, for example...

00:55:02.620 Women's jobs are more valuable?

00:55:03.800 No, no, no, no, no.

00:55:04.820 I'm saying, like, a lot of women's jobs are already majorly women, right?

00:55:08.440 Right, but I was arguing your point about, like, you were making this point of, well, if all the women go and die to war, how are we going to repopulate?

00:55:15.380 Yeah.

00:55:15.520 But, like, I'm not, I don't think any conflict would reduce the female population to such a degree that it would, like, have some catastrophic, if they were drafted front line, whatever.

00:55:25.780 But, like, we're already...

00:55:26.900 Actually, it'd probably be good.

00:55:28.180 I'm going to get canceled for this.

00:55:29.720 It'd actually probably be good for the population if women got drafted, because here's what happens, actually, with the volunteer force of women.

00:55:36.700 If they ever do face a deployment, a lot of these female soldiers just get pregnant to avoid having to be deployed.

00:55:44.620 Genius.

00:55:44.940 So, it actually, this is...

00:55:46.280 The fertility rate would go up.

00:55:47.520 Wait, Charlie, this...

00:55:47.680 Hold on.

00:55:48.380 Charlie, I think, actually, conservatives need to get on board with the female draft.

00:55:52.460 But, no, you have to stay pregnant.

00:55:53.340 Charlie, I need you to commit on the whatever podcast here that you actually are in favor of the female draft, because they get drafted, right?

00:55:59.400 We draft only women, and then they're going to get pregnant so they can avoid, you know, being deployed.

00:56:05.360 If there is a pregnancy exemption, they still allow certain pregnant women to...

00:56:11.300 No, if you're pregnant, you can't be deployed.

00:56:12.980 How about, like, only third trimester can't get deployed?

00:56:15.920 But first and second...

00:56:16.520 They have pregnancy jumpsuits, but they're not in the Air Force, which is just the same.

00:56:19.420 I think this could be a great talking point for the conservative party.

00:56:23.540 Let's draft the women, and then we'll fix the population problem.

00:56:26.480 Which we have a huge population problem.

00:56:28.040 A lot of women get pregnant.

00:56:29.700 We will have to ban smush-mortion, and, you know, just...

00:56:33.360 And then everyone's going to be raised in a single-parent household?

00:56:37.740 That's horrible.

00:56:39.260 No, of course.

00:56:40.120 I hate that.

00:56:40.300 They get married.

00:56:41.180 They get married.

00:56:42.200 They get married to their husband, who's deployed?

00:56:45.280 Also, everything sucks.

00:56:47.220 We'll figure it out.

00:56:48.280 War is bad across the board.

00:56:50.180 But wait, so, okay.

00:56:51.860 Don't draft women, because then we can't repopulate?

00:56:54.880 Is that kind of the argument?

00:56:55.920 Yeah, that was one of them, yeah.

00:56:56.880 Okay, what if we only draft, like, 100, or, excuse me, not 100, 1 million women?

00:57:01.220 Okay, so you want to put a marker on, we can draft 1 million women and unlimited men,

00:57:05.440 wouldn't that also not be equal under your eyes?

00:57:07.000 No, just, like, say 1 million women, 1 million men.

00:57:09.440 Or 10 million women, 10 million men.

00:57:11.160 That would be equal.

00:57:12.000 And if they can prove that those 1 million women are competent and would advance the war

00:57:16.000 just as much as those 1 million men?

00:57:17.620 Probably not, but...

00:57:18.380 Exactly, that's my point.

00:57:19.040 We still draft them.

00:57:19.820 No, but that's my point.

00:57:20.400 No, but equality, we still draft them.

00:57:22.400 But wouldn't you want, in a war, the people going to war...

00:57:25.660 Why do we have women for the volunteer force, which you're in favor of?

00:57:28.560 Because I do believe that the women who are volunteering know that they can provide quite

00:57:33.560 a bit to the war.

00:57:34.500 They're not just, like, you know...

00:57:36.340 Not really.

00:57:37.220 Well, I would assume so.

00:57:38.060 Why would a woman volunteer if she doesn't, if she's not certain that she can provide some

00:57:41.760 type of, you know...

00:57:43.140 Well, I mean, people volunteer for all kinds of reasons.

00:57:47.060 Some people do for financial reasons.

00:57:48.600 There's, perhaps they're coming from a, you know, very low socioeconomic position.

00:57:53.660 Getting into the military can be helpful in that way.

00:57:55.900 Perhaps people want an experience, discipline.

00:57:58.760 They want to serve their country.

00:58:00.340 That's true, but I don't think most women would put their lives on the line and have

00:58:04.340 that be their number one option.

00:58:05.640 Just volunteering, just because, like, shits and gigs.

00:58:08.000 Like, I want to volunteer, you know?

00:58:09.680 Okay.

00:58:10.980 Right.

00:58:11.500 So, I haven't really heard a compelling reason, at least from the feminist viewpoint standpoint,

00:58:15.820 as to why women shouldn't be drafted.

00:58:18.600 But why would you want women to be drafted, is my question, as a man.

00:58:22.320 For the sake of equality.

00:58:23.500 Who wants...

00:58:23.760 Yeah, but wouldn't you want your country to, like, do good in war, not just for the sake

00:58:28.260 of equality?

00:58:28.800 So, if I make that same argument about, like, the workforce, would you call that a sexist

00:58:33.540 statement?

00:58:34.700 With what exactly?

00:58:36.700 Would it be a sexist statement?

00:58:38.400 I'm not arguing this, but the same argument you're making about, well, wouldn't you want

00:58:43.020 the best for the war effort?

00:58:45.120 Couldn't you just make that argument about the volunteer force?

00:58:47.620 So, women can't join the military?

00:58:49.340 You could say about policemen, fire...

00:58:51.400 Police officers, excuse me.

00:58:54.120 Firefighters, et cetera.

00:58:57.120 I'm not really catching your drift.

00:58:59.260 You said...

00:58:59.880 You don't want women, so you're trying to exclude women from other workforces, is what you're

00:59:03.700 asking me?

00:59:04.140 Well, you said, wouldn't you want the best people?

00:59:06.680 Yes, for the war.

00:59:07.880 Yeah.

00:59:08.220 Which is who?

00:59:09.140 Because, like, if we lose the war, is that not a big deal?

00:59:11.860 That'd be a big deal.

00:59:12.540 Yeah, so that's what I'm saying.

00:59:13.740 It's kind of like, you know, let's put equality to the side in terms of the war, because the

00:59:19.120 war is really going to affect all of society, not just man or woman.

00:59:22.000 But you could even draft women into positions of, for example, not front-line soldiers.

00:59:27.720 Cyber security.

00:59:28.100 Yeah.

00:59:28.420 And if you can prove that those women are competent and they can do that, then yeah,

00:59:31.560 go ahead.

00:59:31.960 That still wouldn't really be equality, but it would be closer.

00:59:34.720 It wouldn't, but that would be good, yeah.

00:59:35.420 It would be closer to equality.

00:59:36.520 Actually, most positions in the military are not front-line combat positions.

00:59:43.000 So, I wouldn't, you know, so I'm just a little confused here.

00:59:47.200 What are you confused about if we just agreed on the same point?

00:59:49.740 Just because I label myself as a feminist and I have the same opinion within this as someone

00:59:54.440 who's not a feminist?

00:59:54.740 But it seems like you want equality only when it suits women.

00:59:59.180 I've made that clear that I don't want it when it just suits women.

01:00:02.200 I want it when it benefits society.

01:00:04.080 Is that really hard to understand?

01:00:07.940 A little bit.

01:00:08.600 So, then you acknowledge that there's an inequality that's currently impacting men because men

01:00:14.280 are the only sex that are required to register for the Selective Service.

01:00:19.080 Yeah, that's an inequality in terms of, yeah, if one sex has to go to war, then one doesn't

01:00:22.720 So, your solution then is to get rid of the draft?

01:00:26.640 My solution to that would just be let's not go to fucking war.

01:00:29.560 That would make shit equal.

01:00:30.760 Yeah, war bad.

01:00:31.860 Yeah, but obviously that's, exactly, but since that's not a realistic thing that the U.S.

01:00:35.800 will do, then that's why we're just continuing with.

01:00:37.260 What if it has nothing to do with the U.S.?

01:00:39.280 What if there's a belligerent force like China or Russia or something?

01:00:41.900 Okay, well, either way.

01:00:43.980 Beaten Cheeks donated $300.

01:00:47.140 Here is a point.

01:00:48.500 Feminism should have never been brought upon society by evil men pushing women to become

01:00:53.320 baby-less career boss B-words.

01:00:56.080 In the West now, what are women currently oppressed on?

01:00:59.560 How are we going?

01:00:59.980 I'll wait.

01:01:02.680 Beaten, I'll ask that later.

01:01:04.540 Are you, okay.

01:01:08.380 So, assuming we can't get rid of war, assuming there had to be a draft.

01:01:14.540 Exactly.

01:01:16.980 Do you acknowledge the current inequality that exists?

01:01:20.180 Yes, you've asked me that question like four times, I believe.

01:01:21.880 Shouldn't you, as a feminist, be desirous of moving towards egalitarianism and equality?

01:01:28.540 I've made that clear.

01:01:29.740 No.

01:01:31.260 Not in every single aspect.

01:01:32.800 Can I ask it a different way?

01:01:33.600 What would a victory for the feminist movement look like, or your view of feminism?

01:01:39.640 Like, what's this...

01:01:40.640 What's my view of feminism?

01:01:41.500 Yes, or like, what is an injustice or something wrong in America that you would like to see

01:01:47.240 remedied or cured with your view of feminism?

01:01:50.280 Okay.

01:01:50.720 Capitalism.

01:01:51.040 I can get real specific with it.

01:01:53.120 I work in the healthcare field, and I see a lot of inequality within that.

01:01:56.840 So that's one way where I'm a feminist, where I can see, okay, women aren't being treated

01:02:00.620 the best way within the healthcare field, specifically.

01:02:03.360 They don't have the same rights as a man does, specifically.

01:02:05.260 Wait, can you elaborate on that?

01:02:06.780 Do you mean patients or the...

01:02:08.580 Patients, yeah.

01:02:09.280 Okay, wait, can you elaborate what you mean?

01:02:11.240 Like, what is the inequality?

01:02:12.760 Patient care, a man as a patient versus a woman as a patient, very different.

01:02:17.820 Can you articulate it a little further?

01:02:20.240 A woman don't have the same care as a man.

01:02:22.960 Isn't it the case that women use, like, see doctors more frequently?

01:02:27.560 They get more, they're more likely to go visit a doctor?

01:02:30.260 Yeah, that's 100% the case, but that's because they're not getting adequate care.

01:02:33.340 That's why they have to keep seeing new specialists, new people.

01:02:36.420 Wait, wait, I don't think that's the reason.

01:02:37.980 I think women just tend to care about our bodies, and men only care when they're on

01:02:41.580 their deathbed.

01:02:42.340 That's, like, the typical reasoning.

01:02:44.720 Yeah, women, like, for, like, Medi-Cal or whatever, I don't know what it's called.

01:02:49.240 The reimbursables for women are, like, 7 to 1.

01:02:52.480 They're more likely to use...

01:02:53.680 Yeah, especially under 50 women.

01:02:54.940 But it's taken me, like, six months just to get a checkup.

01:02:58.100 Like, just standard.

01:02:58.720 I don't think that's because you're a woman, though.

01:03:00.420 You don't think so?

01:03:01.200 Okay.

01:03:01.440 I think that...

01:03:02.080 Why would it be because you're a woman?

01:03:03.960 I don't know.

01:03:04.380 Maybe because women's healthcare is harder to get.

01:03:06.080 I'm not sure.

01:03:07.180 That's just me shooting in the dark.

01:03:07.640 So you're talking, like, you're OB-GYN?

01:03:10.220 No, just primary care physician, actually.

01:03:12.640 Why would that be because you're a woman, though?

01:03:14.280 It actually might be because I have shitty healthcare.

01:03:16.480 That...

01:03:16.780 It also could be because we just brought a couple million people from the third world

01:03:19.700 into this country.

01:03:20.660 Yeah.

01:03:20.940 So that kind of creates long lines, but that's a separate issue.

01:03:24.840 Well, could you elaborate a little further on the healthcare thing, though?

01:03:28.200 Do you want me to just keep going, listing examples?

01:03:30.240 Well, you said women have...

01:03:31.700 I don't know if you said rights.

01:03:32.980 Like, women have X that men don't.

01:03:35.040 Yeah.

01:03:35.500 Women are behind in the healthcare field.

01:03:38.440 So that's something I would want to see women progress in.

01:03:40.800 Like in nursing?

01:03:41.940 No, as a patient.

01:03:43.540 I've made that clear.

01:03:44.800 Oh, as patients?

01:03:45.720 Yes.

01:03:46.160 How are they behind?

01:03:47.540 A woman doesn't get the same adequate care from her primary doctor, from her specialist,

01:03:51.960 from whatever person that a man would.

01:03:53.420 And that's been statistically proven.

01:03:55.320 I'll actually...

01:03:55.680 I've been...

01:03:56.220 I'm in the healthcare field.

01:03:57.640 I see this firsthand by...

01:03:59.520 I'm told about this by my coworkers, by my actual patients, by the people I work for,

01:04:04.240 work with.

01:04:05.000 So that's just my experience.

01:04:07.280 So you asked me for a specific example about feminism, and that's what I gave you.

01:04:10.800 So what would solve that?

01:04:13.400 Honestly, I'm not an expert within the healthcare field.

01:04:15.700 To be able to say, you need to do this, this, and that.

01:04:18.500 But I just believe that there is something that could be done under...

01:04:21.540 Do you think that women sometimes might be overemphasizing a condition that might not

01:04:25.560 be a big deal?

01:04:27.820 No, I don't think so.

01:04:28.960 I mean, yeah.

01:04:29.700 Possibly, person to person, there's many women who could do that.

01:04:32.700 There's many men who would do that.

01:04:35.100 How is that relevant?

01:04:36.760 No, because the survey you're citing is that women think they're not getting the care that

01:04:41.240 they deserve, when I think they actually are, and then some.

01:04:44.920 But you're right.

01:04:46.120 Men will not go to the doctor unless they're missing a limb, where a woman will call their

01:04:50.720 doctor as soon as they have a sniffle or a sneeze or a cough.

01:04:54.120 And so they engage in the healthcare system more often.

01:04:57.480 So when you have more interactions and more touch points, you'll have more people who think

01:05:01.080 that there's an injustice when there really isn't.

01:05:02.840 But I see your point.

01:05:06.680 And you also...

01:05:07.640 Well, actually, here.

01:05:08.920 We'll come back to that a little bit.

01:05:10.460 I did also want to get an answer from you really quick on the drafting, then we'll move

01:05:13.260 it along to a different topic.

01:05:14.960 You said you're a feminist, but not in favor of women being drafted.

01:05:18.960 How do you reconcile that?

01:05:22.020 I mean, I think that there should definitely...

01:05:24.680 I think there should be definitely things that are more...

01:05:29.980 Or I guess not more important, but like, I'm more for like, if I'm working a job in

01:05:37.320 the lab and a man is working a job in the same lab and we're doing the same things, then

01:05:40.740 we should be getting equal pay, but...

01:05:43.100 What if you work harder than him?

01:05:44.760 Should you get more money?

01:05:47.500 Well, what do you mean like work harder?

01:05:50.080 Put in more hours, show up earlier.

01:05:52.380 I mean, wouldn't I...

01:05:53.240 What if you're better than him?

01:05:55.980 Then they would probably recognize the hard work that I'm doing.

01:05:58.380 But I thought you said equal pay.

01:06:00.780 I mean, I think it would depend on like your lab position and like how high...

01:06:04.740 But you have the same title.

01:06:05.680 Do you want it to be based on merit or just equality no matter what?

01:06:13.880 I mean, I guess like if you are working harder, then I feel like you should get paid more regardless

01:06:18.960 if you're a man or a woman.

01:06:20.360 So men are more likely to show up early at work.

01:06:22.860 They're more likely to not take seven to ten years off for having a child, whether you like

01:06:27.080 that or not, more likely to ask for a promotion, more likely to ask for a raise.

01:06:31.660 They're also more likely to get their boss to notice their hard work.

01:06:34.340 They're better at that than women.

01:06:35.700 So maybe it's not that women are getting paid less than men.

01:06:38.480 Maybe just men are better at working the corporate system than women.

01:06:41.240 Well, then if that's the case, then I guess that's something we need to work on.

01:06:47.660 Wait, I have a question.

01:06:49.360 Well, you didn't really answer the question, but you did bring up the wage gap there a little

01:06:52.620 bit.

01:06:53.040 So the question was about the draft though, because you said you're a feminist, but you're

01:06:57.160 not in favor of women being conscripted into military, forced military conscription.

01:07:02.920 So just how do you reconcile that?

01:07:06.460 Well, I think they brought up a good point about how biologically women are not as physically

01:07:13.880 strong as men.

01:07:15.660 And I don't understand, or I guess they do bring up a point, how would it benefit the

01:07:23.060 United States if we're putting more women onto the military, if we're not putting the

01:07:29.860 strongest people out?

01:07:31.640 Well, if they're not benefiting, then why would we allow women to volunteer?

01:07:37.900 I mean, but that's like what, I mean, that's what they want to do with their time.

01:07:45.200 It's better than not having any volunteers.

01:07:48.460 Do you guys think the military would be better if women weren't in it?

01:07:51.540 If it was just men, hardcore men that want to win for the country?

01:07:55.860 You know women better than I do.

01:07:58.280 No women.

01:07:59.080 Do you think the American military was a better fighting force when women were not in it?

01:08:04.500 I think they're a lot more aggressive, a lot more assertive.

01:08:08.080 I mean, there's, I don't want to sound like I'm hating on women, but I just think guys when

01:08:14.880 they're, especially in a war, I mean, they're out there that they're wanting to be out there

01:08:20.540 fighting for their country.

01:08:21.860 Women, that's not our instinct.

01:08:23.740 Wait, Charlie, what was your original question?

01:08:25.180 So would the U.S. military be better if it was just men?

01:08:29.340 Is that the end of the question?

01:08:29.740 Yes, and I say this for a group of women who know female nature very well.

01:08:33.280 You know your friend's female nature.

01:08:35.180 If you're trying to create a fighting force to defeat the Russians, defeat the Chinese,

01:08:39.000 and all these stupid wars, I agree with you.

01:08:40.620 But if you want a good military, should women be in the military at all?

01:08:44.180 Let's get everybody's answer on this.

01:08:45.560 Go ahead.

01:08:47.080 If you want the best military, not an equal one.

01:08:49.980 Just men.

01:08:51.400 Just men.

01:08:53.160 I mean, but women are such good FBI agents.

01:08:56.220 Like, we're just naturally good at...

01:08:57.880 Not private investigators, because women are the best at finding out that your boyfriend's

01:09:01.020 cheating on you.

01:09:01.600 Exactly.

01:09:01.920 But that's, we're not talking about that.

01:09:03.000 We're talking about...

01:09:03.620 So, how do we decode, like...

01:09:05.160 Just answer the question.

01:09:06.660 We're talking about storming Normandy, defeating the Nazis, winning a war.

01:09:11.080 I mean...

01:09:12.220 The Kazakhstans.

01:09:13.460 Oh, gosh.

01:09:14.340 The Kazakhstans.

01:09:15.000 The Kazakhstans.

01:09:15.960 They actually had women in the military in the Soviet Union, but that's a separate issue.

01:09:19.120 Yeah.

01:09:19.460 Go ahead.

01:09:23.060 For the sake of argument, no.

01:09:26.320 No women.

01:09:29.680 Maybe no.

01:09:31.260 But also, make sure that every single man that is in there also is up to par.

01:09:35.140 Competent.

01:09:35.420 Exactly.

01:09:37.000 Yeah, I think if the men are really passionate about it, then no women.

01:09:41.920 Okay.

01:09:42.280 I don't want a world where people are barred from much.

01:09:46.100 Okay.

01:09:48.120 No.

01:09:50.440 No?

01:09:51.760 No.

01:09:52.240 I don't know if you guys even remember the question.

01:09:54.500 I don't know.

01:09:54.880 I'm trying my best here to kind of like...

01:09:57.280 It should be all men.

01:09:58.760 You think it should be all men?

01:09:59.940 Yes.

01:10:00.240 Yeah.

01:10:00.420 Okay.

01:10:00.600 I want to come back to what you said really quick here.

01:10:03.020 You did kind of...

01:10:03.820 When I asked you the question, you brought up the wage gap, like equal pay for equal work

01:10:09.800 or whatever.

01:10:10.480 Do you think that that should also apply to like police officers?

01:10:14.700 Like they're doing the same job, right?

01:10:18.020 And like firefighters.

01:10:19.220 So like should men and women be paid equally?

01:10:21.360 Like between police and firefighters.

01:10:24.260 Yeah.

01:10:24.480 Yeah.

01:10:24.640 Like with police and firefighters?

01:10:28.840 Yeah.

01:10:29.960 Okay.

01:10:30.720 But...

01:10:31.040 Can I ask a question real quick?

01:10:32.060 Yeah.

01:10:32.120 Yeah.

01:10:32.240 For our two Australian friends, can I ask a question for you?

01:10:35.140 Yeah.

01:10:35.260 Do you think men OnlyFans models should make the same as female OnlyFans models?

01:10:39.300 That's a great question.

01:10:40.720 Yeah.

01:10:41.720 Like...

01:10:42.200 So you'd be willing to take a pay cut?

01:10:44.640 What do you mean by that?

01:10:45.440 Like they take it out of your pocket.

01:10:46.960 Well, because men, when it comes to online...

01:10:50.440 Tragedy.

01:10:52.280 What's the word I'm looking for?

01:10:53.520 Online...

01:10:54.000 Context.

01:10:54.860 ...presenting yourself earn fractional what women earn.

01:10:58.140 Like one-tenth.

01:10:59.500 Nobody wants to see balls.

01:11:01.720 I mean, I've always been told like the gay people actually get a lot of subscribers.

01:11:07.220 Like more than women.

01:11:08.760 We're going to run this experiment.

01:11:10.220 Me and Charlie are going to open up an OF account and we're going to see...

01:11:13.160 And we're going to...

01:11:14.040 No.

01:11:14.380 Not together.

01:11:14.920 Not together.

01:11:15.560 Let's just take...

01:11:16.400 Our own separate...

01:11:17.160 For example, the best paid male model in the world makes about $3 million a year.

01:11:21.520 The best paid female model is like $35 to $40 million a year.

01:11:25.540 Oh, wow.

01:11:26.060 Yeah.

01:11:26.300 It's not even close.

01:11:27.160 It's like a 10X and it's almost across all disciplines.

01:11:29.920 I didn't even know that myself.

01:11:31.360 And so in OnlyFans, I imagine this would be the case.

01:11:34.540 I mean, for example, I'm not a fan of pornography at all.

01:11:36.800 I write about it in the book, how I'm not a fan of it.

01:11:38.680 However, in online pornography, female actresses earn way more than male actresses.

01:11:43.160 Not even close.

01:11:43.980 Well, isn't that because of the subscribers?

01:11:45.680 They're more male-based.

01:11:46.880 Sure.

01:11:47.060 What is it?

01:11:47.780 60% of men or something like that?

01:11:49.360 For sure, yeah.

01:11:50.700 Men consume pornography more than women.

01:11:52.400 Women increasingly so.

01:11:53.420 Right.

01:11:53.540 So I guess for my two Australian friends, if you...

01:11:57.480 Do you think that there should be a law that says that you should earn the same as your male count?

01:12:01.560 Um, no.

01:12:03.280 D-R-J-S-R 2019 donated $300.

01:12:07.640 Show the panel the opening scene of saving private Ryan and see who would still believe the battlefield is a place for women.

01:12:14.760 Private chat.

01:12:15.320 Communism is of the devil and destroys the human which breaks society.

01:12:19.420 Pull that link up.

01:12:20.560 Uh, D-R-J-S-R.

01:12:22.100 Thank you, man.

01:12:22.700 Yeah, so just...

01:12:23.560 Thank you.

01:12:24.480 I don't think that at all.

01:12:26.840 Um, I think it's just up to how much you post.

01:12:29.400 Like, it's up to you how much money you earn by how much you are posting on your...

01:12:32.900 So it's about merit, creativity, ingenuity?

01:12:35.980 It's about, like, consistency kind of thing, like...

01:12:38.020 And trying to find the right niche and everything for yourself.

01:12:40.860 Nick, do you want to pull that out?

01:12:41.720 So, therefore, if there was a law generally in America where it says that women should be paid the same as men, you'd be against that?

01:12:49.920 Um, well...

01:12:51.760 Because it would apply to OnlyFans.

01:12:53.560 Because it could harm you.

01:12:55.000 See, you're both in an industry where women earn way more than men.

01:12:58.900 Yeah.

01:13:00.480 So you'd be...

01:13:01.180 Because progress is easy to support until it hits your bank account.

01:13:05.420 Hmm.

01:13:06.820 There...

01:13:07.380 There are many men in OnlyFans.

01:13:09.000 Nick, pull the photo, please.

01:13:09.420 They're just the managers.

01:13:10.180 No, of course.

01:13:10.660 This is...

01:13:10.860 This is actually...

01:13:11.780 I went to a protest.

01:13:12.940 This is me.

01:13:14.760 It's terror...

01:13:15.560 This is, like, potato quality.

01:13:17.680 Equal pay for men on OnlyFans.

01:13:18.960 I went to a protest.

01:13:20.160 I had a bunch of crazy protest signs.

01:13:21.660 And so, yeah, I think men should be paid equally on OF.

01:13:24.760 That would be fair, right?

01:13:25.720 I have a question, though.

01:13:26.600 Yeah, I agree.

01:13:27.140 Do you guys set your own prices?

01:13:28.660 So how come the man just doesn't set his own price equal to the woman's?

01:13:32.220 Because no one buys it.

01:13:33.520 Exactly.

01:13:34.040 So how would...

01:13:34.640 You guys can implement, though.

01:13:35.560 You guys get the same.

01:13:36.840 No, of course.

01:13:37.300 It's market-driven.

01:13:38.220 Yeah, exactly.

01:13:38.880 So if the law gets passed, they would still make more than the man.

01:13:41.800 Well, no.

01:13:42.460 Because they have more subscribers, right?

01:13:44.180 And not because they're getting paid more.

01:13:45.560 It depends how it's written.

01:13:46.620 But in the abstract, it would say that equal work for equal pay.

01:13:50.080 That's literally what they just marched in the streets for.

01:13:52.060 So your question is not so much as, like, getting paid by the same rate pay, but you're

01:13:57.720 saying annual pay?

01:13:58.900 It depends.

01:13:59.740 So let's say there was a company that employs OnlyFans models, and then they take a cut,

01:14:04.360 and they do all the work for you, okay?

01:14:05.980 And they employ male and female OnlyFans models, and they both work 10 hours a day.

01:14:10.840 The female OnlyFans models will earn a million dollars a year for the company, and the males

01:14:16.260 will only bring in $100,000 a year for the company.

01:14:19.120 Should they have to pay both of them the same because it's equal work for equal pay?

01:14:25.040 Or should they give more money to who's actually bringing money to the door?

01:14:28.580 The women for the company.

01:14:29.740 I don't know.

01:14:35.000 I always have, like, an opinion on, like, that kind of stuff.

01:14:37.840 Like...

01:14:38.240 I think you both know the answer.

01:14:40.900 You're just afraid to say it.

01:14:42.260 Oh, no.

01:14:43.060 That women should be able to earn what they earn, and they provide in the OnlyFans model.

01:14:47.960 I find OnlyFans to be disgusting.

01:14:49.180 That's a separate issue we'll talk about later.

01:14:50.080 But I'm just trying to find this.

01:14:51.820 However, how is that any different in a corporate environment when men are more likely to travel

01:14:58.160 for work?

01:14:58.660 They're more likely to go make the second or third call for a promotion or a raise?

01:15:02.820 So the equal pay for equal work movement kind of falls apart when it comes down to online

01:15:08.820 female modeling, doesn't it?

01:15:13.580 Honestly, I don't think, like...

01:15:16.040 I think it should be fair.

01:15:19.080 Sorry.

01:15:19.380 I think it should be fair between, like, how much they earn.

01:15:23.340 But it is actually up to, like, how much you want to earn by the amount of posting you're

01:15:28.860 doing.

01:15:29.720 If you're not posting anything, you're not going to make just as much as that girl that

01:15:33.140 is posting all the time.

01:15:35.700 Okay.

01:15:36.680 Yeah.

01:15:37.080 Me and Imogen don't earn the same.

01:15:40.320 She posts more than me, and, like, she makes more than me.

01:15:45.860 Is that fair?

01:15:47.260 I think it is fair because it's up to me.

01:15:49.580 I agree.

01:15:50.280 I think I'm...

01:15:50.900 So shouldn't we structure all of society that way?

01:15:52.720 If who works the hardest gets the most?

01:15:54.080 Yes.

01:15:54.780 We agree.

01:15:55.720 The feminism is dead.

01:15:57.460 Let's say I work two hours a day.

01:15:59.000 Imogen's working eight hours a day doing TikToks, reels, and all of that stuff, like making

01:16:02.420 content for the OF wall and everything.

01:16:04.280 She's earning more than me, but then I'm being, like, lazy, and I'm laying back.

01:16:07.940 I'm not making that much.

01:16:10.040 So it's...

01:16:10.660 You're making an argument for market-based capitalism pretty well.

01:16:13.920 I think that it's up to the men.

01:16:16.240 If, like, if he was to work just as much as Imogen doing eight hours a day, then he should

01:16:22.880 just earn just as much.

01:16:25.040 By law or just let it happen?

01:16:26.920 Just let it happen.

01:16:27.880 Okay.

01:16:28.180 And if he falls short and he ends up earning half?

01:16:31.620 Then just work harder because she's been working harder.

01:16:34.080 Got it.

01:16:34.400 So if you look at a big company like Apple, and I tell you that the female engineers earn

01:16:39.460 less than the male engineers, just let it happen, right?

01:16:43.040 Yeah.

01:16:43.860 Okay.

01:16:44.500 Just let it happen.

01:16:45.360 No?

01:16:45.840 Oh, no.

01:16:46.240 I agree.

01:16:46.720 Oh, yeah.

01:16:47.020 Just let it happen.

01:16:47.800 Yeah.

01:16:48.160 Okay.

01:16:48.440 I agree.

01:16:49.740 We are wrecking new age feminism here.

01:16:53.280 Destroyed.

01:16:55.140 Annihilated.

01:16:55.660 Okay.

01:16:55.840 I want to come back really quick.

01:16:58.100 You brought up the wage gap.

01:17:01.320 Let's see.

01:17:01.920 Wait.

01:17:03.500 Hold on.

01:17:05.120 You brought up the wage gap.

01:17:06.580 You're saying, well, should be paid equally in, you know, if you're doing the same job.

01:17:12.000 Is that correct?

01:17:13.060 Yeah.

01:17:13.220 And do you believe that there is a gender wage gap since you brought it up into the mic?

01:17:19.860 I mean, that's what we've been, like, taught in school.

01:17:23.120 Then it must be true, right?

01:17:24.620 That's what you've been taught in school.

01:17:26.200 Okay, so, shoot, I missed my notes on the specific thing with the wage gap.

01:17:34.520 This is kind of an interesting stat that we found out recently.

01:17:37.080 So, what are your thoughts on, for example, they actually found that Asian women out-earn

01:17:42.420 white men.

01:17:44.240 Do you subscribe to that wage gap?

01:17:49.660 I don't know.

01:17:50.700 Nick, could you pull up the data on that?

01:17:52.660 So, median weekly earnings of full-time workers, white men versus Asian women.

01:17:58.960 So, you have white men, Asian women there.

01:18:00.920 Recently, just the Asian women.

01:18:02.960 You guys are killing it.

01:18:04.280 Good job, Maddie.

01:18:05.480 Good job, Maddie, back there.

01:18:06.600 Why is that?

01:18:07.360 You guys are killing it.

01:18:08.560 Do we know why?

01:18:09.160 Good for you guys.

01:18:11.600 Cool.

01:18:12.440 I'm different.

01:18:13.240 I don't know.

01:18:13.860 Like, okay.

01:18:14.620 Is it a skill issue?

01:18:16.120 Something like this?

01:18:16.600 I don't know, man.

01:18:17.160 But, so is this perhaps evidence of Asian men oppressing white men?

01:18:26.220 I think that's what it is.

01:18:27.260 Oh, my God.

01:18:27.660 I think Asian women are oppressing white, I'm kidding, men.

01:18:31.320 Or just working harder.

01:18:32.640 Could be.

01:18:34.040 Sometimes merit explains a lot of this.

01:18:36.980 Almost all the time.

01:18:38.040 Oh, I remember my question.

01:18:39.500 I agree with you.

01:18:40.780 Sports.

01:18:42.000 So, you know, when it comes to basketball, soccer, there's been a bunch of articles on

01:18:46.560 this.

01:18:47.100 Do you think that women in sports should be paid the same as the men in sports?

01:18:51.960 So, like, men's basketball, women's basketball.

01:18:54.360 I want to start with you.

01:18:55.280 I'll open it up to the rest of the panel.

01:18:57.840 I mean, I think that generally the men's sports are watched more.

01:19:02.300 So, I think it would make sense that they would get paid more because they have more,

01:19:05.740 like, views and sponsorships.

01:19:07.300 Anybody want to?

01:19:08.320 Sponsorships.

01:19:08.720 I agree with that.

01:19:10.460 I mean.

01:19:11.100 Anyone object to the differential payment, though, in sports?

01:19:15.440 Should it be equal in sports?

01:19:19.520 Should it be equal?

01:19:21.060 You're talking about?

01:19:21.560 Female basketball players, should be paid the same as male basketball players?

01:19:24.920 It's like the most based panel ever.

01:19:26.900 Well.

01:19:27.320 You're talking about pro sports, not, like, the Title IX stuff in colleges and, like,

01:19:30.780 spending on sports?

01:19:31.660 Professional sports.

01:19:31.940 Okay.

01:19:32.260 Professional sports, yeah.

01:19:33.320 Let's say, like, where I grew up in San Antonio.

01:19:34.660 I mean, we had the Spurs.

01:19:35.380 You don't have thoughts on this?

01:19:36.500 No.

01:19:36.700 No thoughts?

01:19:36.980 I feel like it's equal.

01:19:37.800 That's fair.

01:19:38.720 If men's sports are washed on women.

01:19:39.720 No, but so women don't earn as much as men do?

01:19:42.780 Okay.

01:19:42.960 Yeah.

01:19:43.260 Okay.

01:19:43.620 Reasonable.

01:19:44.460 All right.

01:19:45.000 And by the way, JSR, I'll just quickly adjust your message that came through.

01:19:49.060 By the way, I've just paused them temporarily really quick just to get through a few things.

01:19:52.760 I'll let a few of them come in.

01:19:54.260 JSR, yes, the scene from Saving Private Ryan, absolutely excellent.

01:19:57.720 Also, all quiet on the Western Front.

01:20:00.380 It's available on Netflix.

01:20:01.380 I strongly encourage you guys to watch that.

01:20:03.460 It kind of shows the just savagery and brutality of warfare.

01:20:10.240 So, okay, we hit that.

01:20:12.720 We've hit the draft stuff.

01:20:14.560 Actually, really quick on the draft stuff.

01:20:15.940 But, Charlie, I've got to push back here against you a little bit here.

01:20:19.700 I'm actually, so I'm in favor, Charlie, of women being drafted.

01:20:24.700 Now, here's why, Charlie.

01:20:26.060 First off, actually, that just occurred to me the whole, like, well, then they would just get pregnant.

01:20:30.300 Fertility thing.

01:20:30.820 You know, they'd just go and get pregnant to avoid deployment.

01:20:35.380 Service guarantees citizenship.

01:20:37.160 That's the other thing.

01:20:37.920 And then, also, you know, I say frontline combat, too.

01:20:43.960 Like, you know, soften them up a little bit.

01:20:46.080 Then, when the men come in, like, soften up the enemy.

01:20:48.620 So, like, send the women first.

01:20:49.860 Right, right, right.

01:20:50.320 And then, like, you know, they, like, soften them up.

01:20:52.520 And then, like, the guys can come in and, like, finish the job, you know?

01:20:55.520 Right, like a shield.

01:20:56.300 Do you concur?

01:20:57.280 To use women as human shields?

01:20:58.700 No, not as human shields.

01:20:59.800 As a stupid war?

01:21:00.500 No, no, no, no.

01:21:01.120 But, like, throw them in, soften them up a little bit.

01:21:03.840 Oh, use, like, throw them forward as, like.

01:21:05.500 As a combat.

01:21:06.460 What are we supposed to do?

01:21:07.540 Flirt with them?

01:21:09.020 We can come in and take all the credit.

01:21:11.160 Oh, yeah, I'm not sure I'm on board for that.

01:21:13.100 Okay.

01:21:13.740 They do use women as honeypots.

01:21:15.480 Think it over.

01:21:15.840 That doesn't say.

01:21:17.300 Okay, so.

01:21:20.680 I didn't want to ask.

01:21:21.940 I don't know why I wrote this down.

01:21:23.560 I wrote down capitalism for some reason.

01:21:25.840 Just really quick.

01:21:26.720 Is everybody in favor of capitalism?

01:21:28.980 Or would you prefer some other?

01:21:30.520 I mean, it creates, like, problems.

01:21:33.520 Like, the over usage of adult content, for example.

01:21:39.040 I think that's a product of capitalism.

01:21:41.540 So there wouldn't be no OnlyFans if we were, like, communist or whatever?

01:21:44.660 I think there probably not.

01:21:47.660 There's probably still going to be, like, some runaround.

01:21:49.300 But, I mean, no, that doesn't mean that.

01:21:52.320 No.

01:21:53.340 One doesn't negate the other.

01:21:54.700 Okay, fair enough.

01:21:55.280 I still eat.

01:21:56.540 So, in favor of, I don't know why I wrote this down, but I have, okay.

01:22:00.500 In favor of capitalism, or would you prefer, like, socialism, communism?

01:22:05.540 Capitalism is okay.

01:22:06.440 Okay.

01:22:07.520 I say it's fuck capitalism, actually.

01:22:09.580 But I also, that's the only option we have at the moment.

01:22:12.280 I mean, I'm not for socialists or communism or any of that, so, yeah.

01:22:15.780 So you acknowledge that there's issues within capitalism, but despite those issues, it is

01:22:20.820 currently the best system that we have.

01:22:22.300 Exactly.

01:22:22.760 Okay.

01:22:22.880 I don't really have an opinion.

01:22:28.520 So, if, let's say we were communist, you would not be able to, if it was a, like, you wouldn't

01:22:34.160 be able to, like, dye your hair blonde if it was communist.

01:22:38.800 How do you know my hair's dyed?

01:22:40.880 What's that?

01:22:41.640 How do you know my hair's dyed?

01:22:44.860 Just a guess.

01:22:46.260 Just a guess.

01:22:47.620 Just a hunch, you know?

01:22:50.400 Oh, so, like, can you just define it, then?

01:22:53.240 Hair dye?

01:22:54.120 No, like...

01:22:54.660 Or define what?

01:22:55.460 Commun?

01:22:55.860 Yeah.

01:22:56.920 I'm going to defer to Charlie Kirk here.

01:22:58.240 What is communism?

01:22:59.700 I'm not saying this.

01:23:00.820 Do they teach communism in college anymore?

01:23:04.160 Or, like, I'm just saying, like, why do you bring up me being blonde?

01:23:07.520 Well, he was making a tongue-in-cheek point of saying that in communism, it's total control

01:23:13.440 of one's life.

01:23:14.840 Totalitarianism.

01:23:15.480 So, you can get stupid and arbitrary rules like that.

01:23:20.000 You probably wouldn't be able to buy hair dye.

01:23:22.480 Yeah, communist dictatorships, yeah.

01:23:24.720 Maybe they prioritize that.

01:23:26.220 I don't know.

01:23:26.920 Maybe.

01:23:28.920 Here, just a show of hands.

01:23:29.940 Anybody against capitalism?

01:23:31.660 So, I'll just move it along.

01:23:32.820 I think total unfettered capitalism is a little brutal.

01:23:36.020 That's why we have, you know, antitrust laws and some things to regulate when it's completely

01:23:40.680 unfettered.

01:23:41.200 But, for sure, it's...

01:23:42.520 There was...

01:23:43.220 I'm going to get it wrong, but there's somebody famous who said it's a terrible system,

01:23:46.120 but better than all the others, right?

01:23:47.360 Sure.

01:23:47.520 Okay, I think that's nobody.

01:23:48.660 I'll let a couple of these chats come in.

01:23:50.220 They're going to come in in just a second.

01:23:52.240 Then we're going to...

01:23:52.740 I want to come back to that clip we saw, because we didn't really get a full reaction to it.

01:23:56.560 Then we have a couple of other things we need to react to.

01:23:59.500 Sorry, guys.

01:24:00.180 We're just letting a few of these come in.

01:24:03.060 And I'm going to let...

01:24:04.920 Ah, shoot.

01:24:05.640 Sorry, guys.

01:24:06.260 We're on a delay here.

01:24:08.460 By the way, guys, Charlie's book, Right Wing Revolution.

01:24:12.520 It's going great.

01:24:13.380 You guys can all get a copy.

01:24:14.200 Dr. Laby donated $300.

01:24:15.860 Thank you, Doc.

01:24:16.520 Bangs Jr., there are more women than men doctors in primary care, and there is a specialty

01:24:21.460 exclusively devoted to women's health.

01:24:24.340 Men do not.

01:24:25.540 How are women patients underserved?

01:24:28.180 Cheers, Charlie.

01:24:30.560 Do you want to address that really quick?

01:24:32.120 How are female patients underserved?

01:24:35.400 I don't feel like addressing that right now.

01:24:37.100 We've already moved way past that.

01:24:39.160 Do you want to add, like, one little thing?

01:24:41.460 I'm good.

01:24:42.740 I'll ask you a question.

01:24:43.740 We're not going to debate it, at least now anyways.

01:24:45.940 Do you think that part of your position on that has to do with abortion rights?

01:24:50.760 Yeah, slightly, yeah.

01:24:52.280 Okay, we can...

01:24:53.040 I'll write that down, perhaps, if time permitting.

01:24:55.720 We'll get to that in a bit.

01:24:57.640 Joe Murphy...

01:24:58.640 Hold on.

01:24:59.000 Where was the other one?

01:24:59.780 Sorry, guys.

01:25:00.180 A couple of these chats are coming in.

01:25:01.840 I'm going to read them, and then we'll get back to the reaction to that clip that we

01:25:05.520 pulled up.

01:25:07.040 Kirk, can you make the same argument about equal pay about any other institution but OnlyFans?

01:25:12.740 Yeah, healthcare.

01:25:14.400 Okay.

01:25:14.920 Female nurses earn more than male nurses.

01:25:17.060 Thank you.

01:25:17.380 And there are also more female nurses than male nurses.

01:25:19.660 All right.

01:25:19.980 And also teaching as well.

01:25:21.020 Elementary school teaching.

01:25:22.560 There's also more women that are OBGYNs than men.

01:25:26.420 OBGYNs.

01:25:26.820 All right.

01:25:27.920 And then Cheeks here says, I'm extremely disappointed that nobody on the panel knows what real feminism

01:25:33.360 is.

01:25:33.840 An extreme short feminism is the destruction of the nuclear family.

01:25:39.160 Patriarchy never was about equality.

01:25:41.040 Drizzle, drizzle.

01:25:41.900 Okay.

01:25:42.120 Thank you, Cheeks.

01:25:42.840 Appreciate it.

01:25:43.580 By the way, if you can, just scoot into the table a little bit.

01:25:45.460 You're just getting cut out of frame there.

01:25:47.780 Okay.

01:25:47.980 Thank you, guys.

01:25:48.980 I'm going to pause it just temporarily just to get through our next couple things, and

01:25:53.980 then I'll get the soup chats later.

01:25:55.220 So going back to, if you guys recall that clip that we were looking at.

01:26:00.120 So you guys all remember, essentially, she's this kind of more liberal, progressive woman

01:26:04.960 who's like upset that she can't find, at least among the men that she wants to date

01:26:11.220 that match her values and, you know, match her progressive, liberal, feminist values.

01:26:15.800 She doesn't get the traditional treatment from those guys.

01:26:19.460 What are your thoughts on that, on the clip?

01:26:21.860 And also, do you think liberal women deserve chivalrous treatment?

01:26:28.960 So I think we were, I'll just ask you, do you think liberal women deserve chivalrous treatment?

01:26:42.420 Can you explain more on that?

01:26:46.780 So do you want me to, like, repeat the question, or?

01:26:51.860 So, okay, do you think liberal women deserve, do you know chivalry, right?

01:26:55.140 The guy opening the car door, paying for the first date?

01:27:00.600 Walking next to, on the left side of you on the street instead of the right side,

01:27:03.600 so he's walking closer to the car in case something happens.

01:27:06.260 Sorry, I got to.

01:27:06.760 Do you agree on that?

01:27:07.300 So, do you, no, do you think liberal women, because chivalrous treatment, I would categorize

01:27:14.200 as traditional treatment, but it's not clear to me if liberal progressive women are traditional

01:27:21.280 women.

01:27:24.260 So you're asking me?

01:27:26.040 Do you think liberal women, so let me hear, do you think non-traditional women are deserving

01:27:32.320 of traditional treatment or chivalrous treatment?

01:27:41.000 No.

01:27:41.840 I don't know.

01:27:43.860 All right, what about you?

01:27:46.480 Deserving.

01:27:47.260 I mean, I don't think it's for me to say what people deserve and don't deserve, but I do think

01:27:52.200 that if you're dating liberal men, you're less likely to get the sort of traditional types

01:27:56.680 of things.

01:27:57.300 We see that in Scandinavia, for instance, where women have even more power and money per capita

01:28:02.480 than here, and so men are very 50-50.

01:28:04.280 Right.

01:28:04.580 So.

01:28:04.920 I'm actually, I'll just get your guys' answers again, if you already answered it.

01:28:08.840 Do you think liberal women deserve chivalrous treatment?

01:28:11.920 Of course.

01:28:13.460 And you said you've received it, correct?

01:28:14.840 Yeah, every guy I've dated.

01:28:16.520 Because you consider yourself progressive, right?

01:28:18.540 Yeah.

01:28:19.080 Liberal, feminist.

01:28:20.440 Yeah, I'm not like hardcore liberal, but I'm progressive, and I wouldn't, I don't see

01:28:25.080 a reason to ever date someone who wouldn't give me chivalry.

01:28:28.320 It's kind of like art.

01:28:29.500 I think every woman deserves the wonderful experience of a man courting her and treating

01:28:36.540 her well and respectful, da-da-da.

01:28:40.360 I agree.

01:28:41.940 I think that they deserve to experience, yeah.

01:28:46.640 And so you deserve that, correct?

01:28:48.820 Yeah, I think I deserve it.

01:28:51.320 Yeah, I think women, or liberal women, do deserve that.

01:28:55.640 Okay.

01:28:56.220 Yeah, I agree with that as well.

01:28:58.560 I think ladies deserve to be treated like ladies, and not all women are ladies.

01:29:02.920 Well put.

01:29:03.600 Okay.

01:29:05.000 Let's say I think everybody deserves the experience of at least once having a chivalrous guy.

01:29:10.760 I don't believe that all women want the chivalry, especially the more progressive feminist.

01:29:17.740 That's true.

01:29:18.760 Okay.

01:29:19.660 Charlie, I think you recall the clip.

01:29:21.920 Yep.

01:29:22.100 I mean, you don't always get what you deserve in life.

01:29:24.540 But yes, every woman should be treated the same, regardless of their political views.

01:29:28.380 But if you are a progressive and you go out of your way to go, you know, date femboys,

01:29:32.520 then don't be surprised when they can't even hold the door when they open it.

01:29:36.460 Well, I have a question for you, Charlie.

01:29:37.980 I mean, do you think the type of men that are more likely to give women that more traditional

01:29:43.560 treatment, do you think they would lean more conservative or liberal?

01:29:47.980 Chivalrous treatment?

01:29:48.940 Chivalrous treatment.

01:29:49.240 Oh, conservative, without a doubt.

01:29:50.520 Yeah.

01:29:50.720 Without a doubt.

01:29:51.300 I mean, and that's a generalization.

01:29:53.280 I mean, there's exceptions to every rule.

01:29:54.700 But the vast majority of conservative men would, at least everything I understand, would

01:29:59.440 consider it to be insane not to treat the lady with chivalry.

01:30:02.580 Because the conservative movement in general is much more understanding and appreciative

01:30:08.500 and trying to protect the natural order of male-female differences and distinctions.

01:30:15.620 And that's one of our differences.

01:30:17.040 Do you have a thought on that?

01:30:17.880 I have a question.

01:30:19.100 I completely agree with what you said right there.

01:30:21.200 But what would you say about incels who describe themselves as part of the conservative community?

01:30:26.240 Incels?

01:30:26.440 So they should go find a wife.

01:30:31.460 That's what I say, regardless.

01:30:33.020 I mean, I think that it's destructive if we have a...

01:30:37.720 Single men is a big problem.

01:30:39.460 In the Bible, it says, God said to Adam, it's not good for man to be alone.

01:30:43.780 Men being single over 30 is a big problem.

01:30:48.160 And by the way, women being single over 30 is also a big problem.

01:30:50.780 And I talk about that.

01:30:51.860 But single men are more likely to commit crimes, more likely to go to jail, more likely to get

01:30:55.460 into drugs, more likely to be isolated and distant on society.

01:30:59.180 Men need women as much as women need men.

01:31:00.940 So if it was up to you, you wouldn't allow the incels to be a part of the...

01:31:04.720 Well, allow.

01:31:05.300 I mean, if you believe in my value system.

01:31:06.680 But if I ever confront it, I'm going to tell you, get your life together, get your act

01:31:10.400 together.

01:31:10.900 That's valid.

01:31:11.300 Stop being a loser.

01:31:12.280 Valid.

01:31:13.280 So.

01:31:14.520 This is actually a perfect segue into our next segment.

01:31:19.960 Charlie, you came under a bit of heat.

01:31:22.140 I've never said anything controversial.

01:31:24.360 Never.

01:31:24.820 You got some backlash.

01:31:27.080 You got slammed.

01:31:28.280 That's what the news articles...

01:31:29.420 Nick, can I pull those up?

01:31:30.120 Can I give them a trigger warning before we...

01:31:31.400 Oh, true.

01:31:31.680 This is a spicy clip, but you guys can say whatever you want about me, but it's not

01:31:36.440 the full context, just so we're clear.

01:31:38.340 Got it.

01:31:38.540 But I did say it.

01:31:40.080 Yeah.

01:31:40.500 So, Nick, pull those up.

01:31:41.560 There's some news articles.

01:31:43.080 You're always in the news, Charlie, but you said...

01:31:46.640 I mean, and I think they're probably taking you a little bit out of context, but Arizona

01:31:50.400 Republic...

01:31:50.560 I said it, but that's not the totality of the point, right?

01:31:53.220 Birth control is why women are so bitter.

01:31:55.100 Slammed.

01:31:55.580 That's not the only reason.

01:31:57.180 You got slammed for calling women that are not at their prime.

01:32:00.480 And I said hormonal birth control messes with women's brains, which is true.

01:32:05.020 And then you faced backlash for saying women in their 30s are past their prime.

01:32:09.540 Again, not exactly what I said, but that's okay.

01:32:11.800 And I do, you know, if...

01:32:14.300 You could defend me.

01:32:15.400 By the way, so we're going to pull up a couple of the clips.

01:32:18.300 If they exclude any additional context, you can let me know.

01:32:21.860 We can pull up the whole thing.

01:32:22.540 No, it's fine.

01:32:23.260 I don't care.

01:32:23.640 I mean, it's fine.

01:32:24.000 Or just tell us what the additional context is.

01:32:25.780 No, I hope you get the spiciest clips.

01:32:27.360 Okay, we'll get the spiciest clips.

01:32:29.020 So we'll start with the first one.

01:32:30.140 There's three total.

01:32:30.920 Nick, if you can go ahead.

01:32:33.120 Go for it.

01:32:33.700 A lot of them are on birth control, too.

01:32:35.840 And birth control, like, really screws up female brains, by the way.

01:32:39.100 Every single one of you need to make sure that your loved ones are not on birth control.

01:32:42.300 It increases depression, anxiety, suicidal ideation.

01:32:45.840 Birth control is the number one most prescribed medication for young ladies under the age of 25.

01:32:51.320 They will give young ladies birth control for pimples, for acne, to control their moods, their period.

01:32:56.860 It is awful.

01:32:58.080 It's terrible.

01:32:59.120 And it creates very angry and bitter young ladies and young women.

01:33:03.740 Then that bitterness then manifests into a political party that is the bitter party.

01:33:09.340 I mean, the Democrat Party is all about bring us your bitterness and, you know, we'll give you free stuff.

01:33:13.640 It's like we'll trade you, you know, bitterness for stuff, essentially.

01:33:16.600 That's like the Democrat Party.

01:33:17.800 A lot of them are on birth control, too.

01:33:20.100 We can play it again.

01:33:21.200 Yeah, yeah, exactly.

01:33:22.420 To be clear, I meant hormonal birth control, to be very clear.

01:33:25.200 So, yes.

01:33:26.320 I think it would be interesting to at least hear from the women.

01:33:28.640 Is anybody here currently on hormonal birth control?

01:33:32.300 No, I actually hated birth control and how it made me feel.

01:33:35.280 So, do you sympathize with what I was clumsily trying to say?

01:33:37.860 A little bit.

01:33:39.080 A little bit.

01:33:40.060 How did it make you, can I ask?

01:33:41.100 How did it make you feel?

01:33:42.560 I was kind of confused when you mentioned, what was that you said?

01:33:47.620 What causes them to go into that political party?

01:33:49.620 The bitterness, we can get into that.

01:33:51.080 But I'm more focused on how did it make you feel?

01:33:53.340 Like, were you depressed, anxious?

01:33:54.720 Oh, yeah, it made me feel horrible.

01:33:55.920 My skin was awful, and I just, I didn't feel like I was aligned with my life.

01:33:59.800 But maybe that's, I'm just too in tune.

01:34:02.200 But it's not better or worse.

01:34:04.880 I'm also not on birth control.

01:34:06.380 I also didn't like my experience with it.

01:34:08.580 Okay.

01:34:09.780 I've never been on birth control.

01:34:12.780 I took it years past in my late 20s, and I also didn't like the way it made me feel.

01:34:17.040 It's heavy progesterone, a lot of depression, and yeah, I no longer have to deal with that.

01:34:24.400 I used to take it when I was younger, but I didn't agree with it.

01:34:28.460 And the way it made me feel, like, sick, gave me a bit of acne, and I think it's the reason

01:34:34.420 why I did, like, come up with entremetriosis.

01:34:37.720 Wow.

01:34:38.180 Yeah.

01:34:38.380 So, I didn't agree with it.

01:34:43.340 I'm not on birth control, but I used to be on the pill.

01:34:46.600 Personally, for me, I didn't experience any side effects.

01:34:49.880 My skin was really clear, luckily.

01:34:53.360 But I stopped taking it because I was just scared of the side effects that it might have.

01:34:58.140 Oop.

01:35:00.160 Rip.

01:35:01.920 Hold on.

01:35:03.180 Keep going, guys.

01:35:04.300 I've never been on it before.

01:35:07.020 Never been on it.

01:35:08.840 I'd say in addition to the side effects, there's also been a couple studies that have come

01:35:12.280 out showing that women that are on hormonal birth control look at more of the beta guys.

01:35:19.300 That's right.

01:35:19.640 And then once you get off of it, you're looking for more of the alpha type guy.

01:35:23.300 And I would say in my experience, I was on hormonal birth control because I had entremetriosis

01:35:26.920 and PCLS.

01:35:28.040 Oh, wow.

01:35:28.460 And my ex-husband was very much a beta, had hysterectomy, decided I wanted to divorce

01:35:35.680 him, and I am now very much with a very dominant alpha male.

01:35:39.820 Awesome.

01:35:39.900 But yeah, terrible side effects.

01:35:42.620 Do you feel, those of you that were on birth control, that they properly informed you of

01:35:47.160 the possible side effects before you went on the pill?

01:35:50.360 No.

01:35:52.040 They didn't let you know about the spiritual side effects, which was like hanging out or

01:35:57.180 getting guys who were like less of your caliber or whatever that was for you.

01:36:01.240 Um, cause I had the similar experience of like unalignment generally.

01:36:05.540 So you felt that you were attracted to different people while you were on the pill?

01:36:09.220 Sure.

01:36:10.020 I was very, it was only like a few months, but yeah.

01:36:14.900 Maddie, can you fix that please?

01:36:16.520 Okay.

01:36:17.140 There's an interesting study, uh, at my alma mater that they found a, uh, exotic dancers made

01:36:22.760 way more money when they were not on hormonal birth control because they, and they're not

01:36:26.020 sure either men can sense it, like maybe smell or, or maybe we don't know.

01:36:30.640 Or, um, maybe women liked men better.

01:36:32.760 They don't know for sure, but it made a distinct difference in their income.

01:36:36.580 Go figure.

01:36:38.780 Okay.

01:36:39.280 Nick, there's another clip.

01:36:40.300 Can you also just see the volume on Twitter?

01:36:42.280 You said you had a question though about the second part of it, of my comment.

01:36:45.460 Oh yeah.

01:36:45.920 What did you mean about they were distressed?

01:36:48.440 Was it distressed?

01:36:49.160 Oh yeah.

01:36:49.280 I said that bitter.

01:36:50.420 Oh, bitterness.

01:36:51.100 Yeah.

01:36:51.260 I, if you, if you get too far in your life in my, most young ladies deep down want to find

01:36:57.680 a partner.

01:36:58.100 They want to get married and they want to have children.

01:37:00.180 There's exceptions to that.

01:37:01.740 Uh, but if you suppress that for too long, it can create a lot of bitterness.

01:37:04.760 Okay.

01:37:05.560 I can see that.

01:37:07.400 Uh, Nick, can you pull up the other clip?

01:37:10.800 It is maxed.

01:37:11.660 Okay.

01:37:12.360 Uh, sorry, chat.

01:37:13.060 The volume is a little low on these clips.

01:37:15.020 Now he's saying, get your kids off birth control and, and, and praise God.

01:37:20.140 They shouldn't be on birth control if they're your kids.

01:37:21.980 No Christian parent should ever allow their daughter on birth control ever period.

01:37:26.940 There, that, that, that is, if your daughter's on birth control or granddaughter, get them

01:37:31.360 off immediately.

01:37:32.640 Now he's saying, get.

01:37:34.300 Yeah.

01:37:34.580 Same thing.

01:37:35.240 Yeah.

01:37:35.420 And again, I meant hormone.

01:37:36.580 I was using a filler term of hormonal birth control.

01:37:39.020 Okay.

01:37:39.460 And then the next clip I think is the one that drew the most ire, not just for, you know,

01:37:43.760 from both sides.

01:37:44.240 Can I, can I say this ahead of time?

01:37:45.520 Sure, sure, sure.

01:37:45.780 So what, a better way I could have said this is that as you get older, your dating pool

01:37:49.480 shrinks.

01:37:50.460 Uh, I, I said it fine, but like there's one word that's clumsy there.

01:37:54.280 And, you know, I met, uh, my wife Erica when she was in her late twenties.

01:37:57.340 We're now super happily married.

01:37:59.360 Um, and we have two kids.

01:38:00.560 You did nothing wrong, Charlie.

01:38:01.680 Huh?

01:38:02.160 No, no, no.

01:38:02.820 I want to be clear though, because again, no one is above criticism or reproach.

01:38:07.020 However, the essence of what I said is a hundred percent true.

01:38:09.880 That's what I will say is that you can kind of sometimes, you know, stumble over your words,

01:38:13.980 but the essence is a hundred percent true.

01:38:15.160 Got it.

01:38:15.960 All right, let's play the clip.

01:38:17.040 Girls are going to react to this.

01:38:18.180 Go ahead.

01:38:18.820 We basically told a great generation of young women, don't get married.

01:38:22.740 Don't have kids.

01:38:23.620 Go get a corporate job.

01:38:25.400 And it's created mass political hysteria.

01:38:28.540 Um, and then in their early thirties, they get really upset because they say, you know,

01:38:32.720 the boys don't want to date me anymore because they're not at their prime.

01:38:35.660 And people get mad when I say that was just true.

01:38:37.840 If you're in your early thirties, I'm sorry.

01:38:39.340 It's like, you're not as attractive in the dating pool as you were in the early twenties.

01:38:42.300 But again, you have your corporate job and cats.

01:38:43.940 So I thought you, you know, we basically, there you go.

01:38:48.840 Was the audio boosted on that one?

01:38:51.320 Oh, okay.

01:38:52.000 Yeah.

01:38:52.160 It was super low.

01:38:52.760 Anyways, your reaction to the clip, starting with you.

01:38:55.580 Go ahead.

01:38:56.940 Okay.

01:38:59.440 Yeah.

01:39:01.240 Where's the crickets?

01:39:02.000 You can cue the crickets.

01:39:02.860 Yeah.

01:39:03.000 I'm going to play the crickets.

01:39:03.300 You can say whatever you want.

01:39:04.360 I don't, I don't, I really don't have anything to say about that.

01:39:06.940 But I mean, yeah, the dating pool does shrink.

01:39:09.040 That's very true.

01:39:10.760 Mm-hmm.

01:39:12.700 Okay.

01:39:13.480 Yeah.

01:39:13.720 Any reaction to that?

01:39:15.780 I also don't really feel like I have to make a comment on that.

01:39:17.900 There's really not much to say.

01:39:19.500 Okay.

01:39:20.320 Yeah.

01:39:21.540 All right.

01:39:22.460 What about you?

01:39:23.940 Sure.

01:39:24.420 Dating pools shrinks.

01:39:26.060 Also, some women want a job in cats, and for them, that's a good time.

01:39:29.300 Again, I lean toward a world in which people can do what they want.

01:39:33.100 Oh, okay.

01:39:33.280 I sound like an anarchist, right?

01:39:35.200 I honestly don't have an opinion.

01:39:39.100 We suck.

01:39:39.840 Yeah, I know.

01:39:40.900 Here, I'll ask.

01:39:41.400 I thought when you told me you were going to play my tapes, Brian, I was going to get

01:39:44.600 screamed at and people were going to throw stuff.

01:39:46.480 I guess I'm not as controversial as I thought I was.

01:39:49.160 Yeah, see, you've got a warm reception here.

01:39:51.300 Yeah, I don't know.

01:39:52.120 They co-sign everything.

01:39:53.540 Run for politics.

01:39:53.960 We don't have to answer now, but I do have a question.

01:39:55.700 If you want to make it cooler culturally for young women to want to be mothers and be

01:40:01.420 married and anti-Steinum stuff, then there's got to be a long-term plan, right, to change

01:40:07.420 the culture.

01:40:07.940 Yeah, and that's part of what I'm trying to do.

01:40:09.680 I'm first trying to live what I believe and build a family, because I think that's important.

01:40:14.040 Then I'm also trying to advocate this in a culture where it's not always celebrated.

01:40:18.980 And I would love to just really go quickly around the horn, super quick.

01:40:21.780 If you had to choose between, if you could only pick one, marriage or career, which would

01:40:27.400 you choose?

01:40:28.000 If you had to choose?

01:40:29.500 Can we do that?

01:40:30.260 Yeah, can I add one thing?

01:40:31.360 So is it, so great, amazing career or beautiful, healthy family?

01:40:35.860 That's correct.

01:40:36.400 Is that, yeah?

01:40:36.980 Okay, that was a good decision.

01:40:37.480 If you had to choose.

01:40:38.280 Now, you can have both in life, but if you could only pick one.

01:40:41.120 I would say marriage.

01:40:43.160 Marriage.

01:40:44.560 Yeah, the healthy family.

01:40:46.600 Family.

01:40:48.000 Marriage.

01:40:48.880 Marriage.

01:40:49.680 Marriage.

01:40:50.400 Marriage.

01:40:51.420 Marriage.

01:40:51.880 And can I answer the other question?

01:40:52.900 Yeah, of course, yeah.

01:40:53.640 So I actually want to back him up on, you know, you're not really in your prime once you

01:40:57.560 turn 30.

01:40:59.380 I know I got married at age 23.

01:41:01.860 I mean, I was pretty.

01:41:03.540 I was an athlete.

01:41:05.740 Married the wrong guy.

01:41:07.400 Became obese.

01:41:08.160 Yeah, not now, obviously.

01:41:12.340 But yeah, once I divorced him after I turned 30, the dating pool was vastly smaller.

01:41:18.780 Well, thank you for defending me.

01:41:20.020 I could have used you a couple months ago.

01:41:22.000 I'm in Phoenix, so.

01:41:23.020 No, that's right.

01:41:23.800 We should talk.

01:41:25.080 No, and I just, the last question that I'll ask is, I want you to think about it.

01:41:27.640 If every single one of you said marriage, are you making deliberate steps every day to

01:41:32.380 get closer to that goal, or are you making steps to get closer to the career goal?

01:41:35.400 So, starting with you, go ahead.

01:41:40.820 Because I believe that in a marriage, since it is, you're coming together as a contractual

01:41:47.240 agreement, I do want to provide, to a certain extent, just in case my husband can't, I am

01:41:54.000 going towards a career.

01:41:55.540 Okay.

01:41:56.160 At the moment.

01:41:58.560 No, and I only ask just, and again, you don't have to go, we don't have to go on the horn.

01:42:01.720 I think it's important, though, to answer your question, far too often, we do not tell

01:42:06.580 young ladies, if you have to prioritize one more than the other, would you rather have

01:42:11.080 your tombstone say, CEO of a shoe company, or loving mother of three children and a wife?

01:42:18.260 And if you would, and if you would rather have loving mother and, you know, of three

01:42:22.220 children and a wife, then you should prioritize that more in your early 20s than your career

01:42:27.540 or going to college.

01:42:28.660 Because the tragedy is, there are far more single, early 30-something women in this country

01:42:34.160 than married 30-something women in this country.

01:42:37.160 The fertility rate's the lowest ever been, marriage rate's the lowest ever been, and it's

01:42:40.660 because we tell young ladies you can wait forever to do this, and that's not the case

01:42:45.740 for everybody.

01:42:46.100 It's the case for some people, but not the case for everybody.

01:42:48.500 And I think it's a tragedy.

01:42:49.320 I think while even you have a family, you should still have, like, what happens when

01:42:59.060 the kids are done, and they graduate, and they move on out of the nest?

01:43:02.320 What does a woman do then?

01:43:03.600 Does a woman just take care of, well, that's assuming that your children want to.

01:43:06.580 That's a really smart question, though.

01:43:07.860 In fact, we are doing everything the opposite.

01:43:10.340 We should say, focus on family formation in your early 20s, then go to college in your

01:43:15.140 late 30s.

01:43:16.000 Sure.

01:43:17.100 But what if you marry the wrong person?

01:43:18.200 College will always be there.

01:43:19.660 No, that's a very fair point.

01:43:22.280 Love and life come with a huge risk.

01:43:25.620 Sure.

01:43:26.220 But the greater risk is dying alone.

01:43:29.120 But I feel like we also have to acknowledge the fact that one of the reasons why so many

01:43:33.480 women don't want to prioritize marriage right now, just straight out of, you're 18, let's

01:43:38.200 work on getting married and having kids and then think about college, is because college

01:43:42.280 gives you so many opportunities that, like, you can focus and work on that directly.

01:43:46.860 You come out of college, you have all these open doors, whereas if you're 18 and you decide

01:43:51.080 not to go to college because you want to prioritize a marriage, that can go wrong in so many other

01:43:56.160 ways where you have no backup plan.

01:43:58.060 Now you're 25 making minimum wage so much farther behind towards a marriage than the

01:44:03.800 woman who already graduated college who has financial stability to be able to have kids

01:44:08.400 and provide for her kids.

01:44:09.620 That's a fair point.

01:44:13.000 You could always go back to college.

01:44:14.440 I'll reiterate that.

01:44:15.900 However, that's not the problem in America.

01:44:17.780 The problem right now, as it is, because the problem you're talking about was the problem

01:44:21.620 in the 1960s, which is what Gloria Steinman said.

01:44:23.780 If my husband left, I would have no way to feed myself.

01:44:26.240 That was the core essence of her critique.

01:44:28.740 Like, if my husband left, I would be having to go to get food stamps because I have no skills

01:44:32.960 except being a stay-at-home mom.

01:44:33.900 Which, by the way, is like the most important thing ever, being a stay-at-home mom, but that's

01:44:37.060 a separate issue, but right now in America, we've gone to the other extreme, which is

01:44:41.140 you could delay it.

01:44:42.040 You can delay it.

01:44:42.760 You can have kids whenever you want, and we have 15 to 20 million single women in the

01:44:48.320 country that have great careers.

01:44:52.060 And I feel like another reason why a woman right now, it's so hard for them to just

01:44:55.640 prioritize having kids is because if you haven't gone to college, got the education, you don't

01:44:59.400 have a husband who also is very financially stable, who is going to provide for those kids?

01:45:06.060 Do you know what I mean?

01:45:06.560 We're in times where it's so iffy.

01:45:09.500 I don't sympathize with that argument as much.

01:45:11.620 First of all, if you get married, by definition, your costs go down because you have two people

01:45:15.280 then paying for rent, right, or for a mortgage.

01:45:17.460 So you can actually consolidate income.

01:45:19.780 But studies actually show men earn more as soon as they get married and have children.

01:45:24.480 Something primal kicks into us where we take a second job.

01:45:27.620 We work extra hours.

01:45:28.480 We figure it out.

01:45:29.540 Men are actually very...

01:45:31.180 Men are super simple.

01:45:32.100 Women are very complicated.

01:45:32.880 Men, as long as we feel appreciated, we feel noticed, and we feel special, and we see our

01:45:38.440 role and our purpose, we will go to the ends of the earth to feed our family.

01:45:41.260 We'll figure it out.

01:45:42.100 And I think we're underselling American men.

01:45:44.460 We say, oh, you know, I wait until I'm 27 or 28.

01:45:47.280 That's fine.

01:45:48.500 But look at the cost of that.

01:45:50.440 And the cost is, right now, just as we're clear, we are on pace 10 years out from now,

01:45:55.640 we're going to have 20,000, 40-something women that never got married or have kids, but they

01:46:01.320 have big apartments and they go on lots of vacations.

01:46:04.280 And I also think that's one of the reasons we're seeing the suicide rate, the anxiety

01:46:07.980 problems, the depression problems in our country.

01:46:09.620 Do you have a thought?

01:46:10.540 Yeah.

01:46:11.120 I just feel like how many people that are like, or how many males that are 20 are like ready

01:46:16.200 to get married and like ready to have a family?

01:46:18.660 So the question is, which one leads which?

01:46:22.180 Men, yes.

01:46:23.480 But in the 1950s or 1960s, the time we're supposed to hate, young ladies looked at it.

01:46:29.000 It was my task to find a husband before the age of 25.

01:46:32.180 And it was like the most important thing for them.

01:46:34.160 Now, that came with a lot of costs.

01:46:35.400 Some people would say that it was handcuffs and, you know, being in prison.

01:46:39.260 But if young ladies, first and foremost, no offense to my two Australian friends, got

01:46:44.000 off of OnlyFans and stopped, you know, posting naked pictures of themselves online and made

01:46:47.960 themselves harder to get, men would step up to the plate.

01:46:52.420 One of the reasons why men are grown infants is because women are so easy to get right now

01:46:56.280 in America.

01:46:57.180 There's no desire.

01:46:58.320 There's no hunt.

01:46:59.000 There's no search.

01:46:59.820 So you can be a grown infant and you can get sex.

01:47:02.500 When it used to be in 1950s, women would be like, I'm not giving myself over to you.

01:47:06.340 You're a man child.

01:47:07.740 Like, you don't even pay rent.

01:47:08.740 You don't even, you have nothing going for you.

01:47:11.000 When now, unfortunately, you can pay 10 bucks a month to go see a woman naked.

01:47:16.040 No offense, well, actually kind of offensive.

01:47:18.020 But that's a separate issue.

01:47:18.860 Aren't you guys like five bucks?

01:47:20.340 Yeah, I think so.

01:47:20.880 Sorry, sorry, sorry.

01:47:21.620 But I'm just, I'm saying that.

01:47:22.600 Oh, yeah, that's okay.

01:47:23.180 But to my OnlyFans friends here, do you think that, do you both want to get married, right,

01:47:29.000 and have children?

01:47:29.620 Yeah, of course.

01:47:30.320 Do you think that you are more desirable or less desirable to a future husband when

01:47:35.240 you post suggestive or naked pictures online?

01:47:37.460 I think that we're entitled just as much as other people.

01:47:40.660 No, you're totally entitled.

01:47:41.600 You have freedom to do it.

01:47:42.160 I'm asking a different question.

01:47:43.020 Are you more, are you more desirable or less desirable for a man?

01:47:48.000 It's always been the same for me.

01:47:49.400 Like, I've always, like, received love the same way.

01:47:53.340 And that's pretty shit.

01:47:55.060 Like, I don't really receive it.

01:47:56.800 They all looked at me the same from the beginning.

01:48:00.000 How do you know how men look at you?

01:48:01.880 Because, like, when I talk to them, like, I usually feel head over heels for them.

01:48:06.300 And they all view me the same way.

01:48:08.100 So whether or not I'm doing OnlyFans and selling my body or not doing OnlyFans and selling

01:48:12.700 my body, I'm still, like, looked at the same way.

01:48:15.200 They still think that of me.

01:48:16.260 Yeah, you don't know the male mind very well.

01:48:18.280 But they've already told me themselves.

01:48:20.120 Men are really good liars.

01:48:21.560 Do you know that?

01:48:22.380 True.

01:48:23.160 Then how could you know they're telling the truth?

01:48:25.020 I don't know.

01:48:25.620 I just take their word for it.

01:48:27.160 You just said they're good liars.

01:48:29.040 Well, I don't know.

01:48:29.840 I'd say a lot of the guys that I know are more, I guess, the higher value type guys.

01:48:34.460 They don't take OnlyFans girls seriously.

01:48:37.020 Yeah, but some people actually do want OnlyFans women and want to marry OnlyFans women and

01:48:43.240 have kids with OnlyFans girls.

01:48:44.740 Erroneous!

01:48:45.380 But very few.

01:48:46.060 Erroneous!

01:48:46.580 Well, hold on.

01:48:47.280 Do you think those men are virtuous, high-quality men that won't cheat on you?

01:48:53.320 Yeah.

01:48:54.660 I do.

01:48:56.840 Okay.

01:48:57.240 It doesn't sound like it, but it's actually really normalized in my area.

01:49:03.700 No, the fact that it's normalized is not the point.

01:49:05.580 The point is, is it good?

01:49:07.900 Is it right to post suggestive pictures of yourself online, number one?

01:49:11.760 And does it get closer to your goal of being married for the rest of your life with a soulmate

01:49:15.600 that you love?

01:49:16.480 I feel like, obviously, like, I want to get married, and obviously, like, I feel like

01:49:21.440 if I was with a guy and he didn't accept my past, I wouldn't want to be with him.

01:49:24.540 Not your past.

01:49:25.220 If you're still doing it.

01:49:26.440 If he didn't accept it, then piss off.

01:49:29.140 So let me ask you a hypothetical.

01:49:30.840 If you met a man and he says, I'm earning two million bucks a year, would you quit OnlyFans?

01:49:35.340 Okay.

01:49:35.720 Like that, yes.

01:49:36.680 If they can make as much as I can, then yes.

01:49:38.940 So you would quit OnlyFans?

01:49:39.640 But if they're going to say, like, stop doing it, but they're not doing anything with their

01:49:44.480 life, then no, I'm not going to stop.

01:49:45.860 So it's just purely financial for you?

01:49:47.660 Yeah.

01:49:48.220 Okay.

01:49:48.800 Yeah.

01:49:49.120 Yeah.

01:49:49.600 Definitely.

01:49:50.040 Would you agree it's just purely financial for you?

01:49:52.120 Literally, yeah.

01:49:53.620 Okay.

01:49:53.980 Do you think that you have more to offer to the world than your body?

01:49:57.040 Of course.

01:49:57.540 Yeah.

01:49:58.460 Then why don't you do that?

01:50:00.220 Because I just chose not to.

01:50:01.620 Yeah.

01:50:01.840 Because you chose, but I know, but don't you think you're...

01:50:04.320 I mean, we have more to offer, but we also want to be able to travel and explore.

01:50:08.900 You know what I mean?

01:50:09.720 Okay.

01:50:09.740 No, now we're getting somewhere.

01:50:10.660 So you want a fun life?

01:50:12.020 Yeah.

01:50:12.260 A free life where we can travel, like live our life, like, young.

01:50:15.240 Everything in life comes with a cost.

01:50:17.120 Of course.

01:50:17.780 And the cost for you is that your body will now be shared by tens of thousands of people,

01:50:23.060 not just your soulmate.

01:50:24.160 Yeah.

01:50:24.500 Yeah.

01:50:25.040 But don't you feel a little bit of sadness that you wish that your body would just be

01:50:29.200 shared with your future soulmate?

01:50:31.480 I did have that mindset, and then, like, I feel like men actually changed me and turned

01:50:35.200 me into this person.

01:50:36.380 Who did?

01:50:36.840 Men?

01:50:37.440 No, like men in general.

01:50:38.620 Like, they just turned me into this person.

01:50:41.240 I didn't plan my life going this way.

01:50:43.240 It was literally a one-minute decision, and I thought, I might as well.

01:50:46.100 They all view me the same, so I'll just throw my life in and do it.

01:50:49.780 But I feel like if a man wants to be with me and love me for who I am, then so be it.

01:50:54.360 But if they're going to judge me for what my work is and what I do, then I'm not going

01:50:58.780 to let them in my life.

01:51:00.720 Right.

01:51:01.040 So the judging is a separate issue.

01:51:02.700 I'm just, do you think the type of man you want, I imagine, is one that tells the truth

01:51:07.500 and that is loyal to you?

01:51:09.300 Yeah.

01:51:10.040 That pool of men that you eventually want to have a family with, do you think they will

01:51:14.500 look fondly upon only fangirls?

01:51:17.820 I don't know.

01:51:19.580 Yeah.

01:51:20.160 I don't know.

01:51:20.960 I could tell you as a man that we look so lowly on only fangirls, it's the equivalent

01:51:25.760 to digital prostitution.

01:51:29.040 Yeah.

01:51:29.680 That's your opinion.

01:51:30.920 No, it's not.

01:51:31.960 Really?

01:51:32.260 It's the average Western male.

01:51:34.500 I don't know if it's like...

01:51:35.580 Wait, what is his opinion?

01:51:36.620 I mean, it's not an opinion.

01:51:37.500 It is factual that the average Western male looks at only fans no different than an escort

01:51:43.780 service delivered digitally.

01:51:46.120 Well, isn't it just objectively true?

01:51:47.500 And I'm not trying to attack either of you.

01:51:48.760 I think you're both victims caught up in this terrible trend.

01:51:52.180 I just want to ask you, have you thought deeply about how this might get you further

01:51:57.080 from your goal, not closer to your goal?

01:51:59.240 Yeah.

01:51:59.580 Yeah.

01:52:00.340 Like, I have definitely thought about that.

01:52:01.660 Like, when, like, I first started it, I was like, this comes with, like, consequences

01:52:05.760 though.

01:52:06.340 So, like, I obviously thought about it and was like, but I'm taking, I'm going to do

01:52:10.660 this, and obviously it's going to be harder to find a guy to marry, but I'm taking that

01:52:13.920 risk.

01:52:14.820 Yeah, I've always thought about just taking the risk, and I've always been, like, a risk

01:52:18.240 taker.

01:52:18.680 I don't really care about what anyone else thinks.

01:52:20.860 Like, that's up to you and what you think, but if I think that I can get somewhere by it,

01:52:27.120 then I'm going to do it.

01:52:28.040 Do you both want children?

01:52:29.320 Yeah.

01:52:29.480 Um, well, I do, but I don't know if I can.

01:52:34.640 You mean physically, or?

01:52:36.300 Yeah.

01:52:36.660 Okay.

01:52:37.100 Yeah.

01:52:37.600 So, if you were to have children, and you were to go to your first graders career day, and

01:52:43.300 you were to present to a bunch of first graders, how would you describe what you do to a bunch

01:52:46.680 of first graders?

01:52:47.260 Well, I don't think that I'll still be doing OnlyFans when I do have kids.

01:52:52.240 I feel like that's something that I would stop before I did have kids.

01:52:54.980 Yeah.

01:52:55.540 Just so, like, it's not, like, obviously, like, the internet is always going to be there.

01:52:58.980 The internet is forever.

01:53:00.160 Yeah.

01:53:00.480 But I feel like it's something that I would stop before I did have children, kind of thing.

01:53:04.540 Can I ask approximately?

01:53:05.540 I have no idea.

01:53:06.340 How much money do you earn annually?

01:53:08.600 Is that okay to ask?

01:53:09.580 I'm just curious.

01:53:10.500 So, in the last six months, I've earned over $115,000.

01:53:16.380 U.S. dollars?

01:53:17.460 Or?

01:53:18.060 AUS.

01:53:18.700 AUS.

01:53:19.240 So, what is that conversion rate?

01:53:20.280 Like, 80%, right?

01:53:21.600 Yeah.

01:53:22.180 So, it was like...

01:53:22.660 You can buy, like, a croissant or something with that.

01:53:24.300 Yeah, exactly.

01:53:24.800 No, I think it's 80,000 American, right?

01:53:26.380 About?

01:53:26.620 Yeah.

01:53:27.180 Is that correct?

01:53:27.720 Yeah.

01:53:28.780 I think so.

01:53:29.080 I'm guessing.

01:53:29.660 I don't know.

01:53:31.220 Okay.

01:53:31.580 That's in six months?

01:53:32.560 Yes.

01:53:32.940 So, you're projected to have, like, over $150,000, $180,000 by next year?

01:53:38.620 $160,000?

01:53:39.640 Yeah.

01:53:41.480 Okay.

01:53:42.120 $12,000 a month.

01:53:43.320 Did you have more on that?

01:53:44.560 No, I just want to make sure everybody watching and you guys all think deeply about that and

01:53:50.100 how men view, not just OnlyFans culture, but you all said marriage, and some of you said

01:53:55.060 marriage and kids is the most important thing.

01:53:56.900 But far too often, our actions and what we do every day is actually not getting us closer

01:54:01.840 to our stated goal.

01:54:03.580 Well, you can say that to the subscribers, too, who subscribe to their...

01:54:06.820 Oh, don't...

01:54:07.080 I mean, I think that...

01:54:07.560 Contribute to their pockets, but that's what I mean.

01:54:09.340 They should be shamed.

01:54:10.040 How can we find husbands in our 20s, in our early 20s?

01:54:13.840 I'm not in my early 20s, but how could we find husbands if they're busy subscribing

01:54:17.280 to OnlyFans chicks?

01:54:19.100 Yeah.

01:54:19.400 Well, not every man is, and that's a really good question.

01:54:21.840 So, where did all the good men go?

01:54:23.500 I talk about this in my book, actually.

01:54:24.700 The first piece of advice I have for young ladies is do not post suggestive material

01:54:29.200 yourself online.

01:54:30.360 Men want what they cannot see and cannot have.

01:54:32.660 Mystery is lacking in the West.

01:54:35.320 And I know this is lost on a lot of young ladies.

01:54:37.360 They say, the more I post of myself with a bikini on the beach, the more men will like

01:54:41.860 you.

01:54:42.080 No, I mean, the more they'll want to have sex with you, but then they'll look at you as

01:54:46.100 just a visual or a commodity, not as a future soulmate.

01:54:48.700 And the second part is, to be perfectly honest with you, religious men check a lot of the

01:54:53.920 boxes that you guys are looking for.

01:54:55.780 I know that.

01:54:56.520 Would you agree with that?

01:54:57.460 Yeah.

01:54:58.000 That's my...

01:54:58.540 I feel like that's one reason why I was able to find men like that.

01:55:02.220 It's because even though they weren't conservative, they still had very, very deep religious values.

01:55:05.900 Can you tell me more?

01:55:06.580 That's so interesting.

01:55:07.860 Mainly Catholic.

01:55:09.600 I'm also Catholic.

01:55:10.520 Yeah.

01:55:11.120 So, and they were...

01:55:12.340 They believed in the God, right?

01:55:14.040 They wanted to have a family.

01:55:15.580 Yeah, they didn't necessarily like read the Bible word for word every day, but they

01:55:19.440 like followed the Bible.

01:55:20.940 So, would you say that's...

01:55:23.280 If you're looking to find a man in the West, and it's your number one priority, and you were

01:55:27.520 given a random selection of a Catholic man or kind of a femboy atheist, you would take

01:55:32.400 the Catholic?

01:55:32.960 Yeah, I would.

01:55:34.120 Would you?

01:55:35.160 The Catholic, yes.

01:55:36.520 I think femboy atheist is so funny.

01:55:37.940 So, how many of you are then going to church actively trying to find a man?

01:55:43.100 I mean, I don't need to.

01:55:44.080 I also...

01:55:44.520 Well, I know, but...

01:55:45.320 I didn't meet any of my boyfriends in church, and I feel like I wouldn't have, if I'm going

01:55:49.100 to be honest.

01:55:49.580 I feel like you can meet a really religious man outside of church.

01:55:52.420 Fair enough, yeah.

01:55:53.200 You just have to find where you guys both coincide, and yeah.

01:55:57.080 Like at the library, studying for your exams, for example.

01:56:00.080 I actually recommend to my single friends to find men in the church, because...

01:56:04.560 I agree.

01:56:05.280 Usually stand-up guys, typically.

01:56:07.460 Yeah, and I mean, there's exceptions to every rule.

01:56:09.280 And so, my advice to my two Australian friends is that if you want the thing that is the

01:56:14.780 most important thing to you, start making those decisions younger than older, because

01:56:18.500 you might end up be filled with a lot of money and a lot of regret.

01:56:21.420 Well put, Charlie, well put.

01:56:25.560 Let me read two of these chats that we have, kind of...

01:56:28.500 Hugo, here we go.

01:56:30.160 Thank you, Hugo.

01:56:30.720 Appreciate it.

01:56:31.980 Yeah, I'll get it.

01:56:33.380 And then he sent in this other one here.

01:56:35.660 He sent in a lot of Bible verses.

01:56:36.640 Yeah, Hugo, Brian Reed, I know your faith, service, and perseverance, but you tolerate

01:56:40.460 that fake prophet, Jezebel, who leads my servants into sex, immorality, and idol worship.

01:56:46.140 She refuses to repent, so I will cast her into suffering and make her followers suffer

01:56:51.100 unless they repent, Rev 21922.

01:56:56.240 And then, in this one, though, you said it was 1921, so...

01:57:00.960 Thank you.

01:57:02.540 Might be a different one.

01:57:03.620 Yeah, it could be a different one.

01:57:04.960 Yeah, these are the same, but Hugo, thank you, man.

01:57:08.020 I really appreciate your chat, guys, if you want to get any, get in some, a couple chats.

01:57:12.640 So I do want to get into our next topic here, and that topic is, we've asked this on the

01:57:17.660 show a couple times, it went viral, this conversation, not from the show, went viral.

01:57:23.760 I think it'd be good to do it while we have Charlie here.

01:57:27.040 Question is, would you rather be stuck in the woods with a random man or a random bear?

01:57:34.060 Starting with you.

01:57:34.960 Go ahead.

01:57:36.420 Um, how random?

01:57:40.100 Totally random.

01:57:40.960 So the U.S. male population is like over 150 million, so just a random man.

01:57:47.220 I've heard really good arguments for both.

01:57:50.680 Well, what's, I guess, kind of your knee-jerk gut choice here?

01:57:56.800 How long am I stuck?

01:57:57.760 I think you're overthinking the question a little bit, but, so it's just random man or

01:58:01.660 random bear.

01:58:02.700 Oh, okay.

01:58:03.440 You, you get randomly plopped in the forest.

01:58:05.800 Sure.

01:58:06.500 The man gets randomly plopped in the forest.

01:58:08.500 You are going to cross paths.

01:58:09.820 The choice is between crossing paths with a random man or a random bear.

01:58:15.960 Random man.

01:58:16.940 Okay.

01:58:17.200 So I'm going to preface this.

01:58:19.720 I was on the show, like, what was, like, a month ago?

01:58:22.060 Yep.

01:58:22.240 And we had that question, and I did answer bear.

01:58:24.980 And I, I, I'm just going to say, I'm going to change my answer for the sake of, I don't

01:58:29.660 feel like arguing for the bear.

01:58:30.760 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, no, no, no, no, no.

01:58:31.460 You can't change your answer for the sake of not wanting to argue it.

01:58:34.320 Answer, answer honestly.

01:58:35.720 No, because the reason why I chose the bear last time was for the sake of the argument,

01:58:39.120 if I'm going to be so honest, like, if I, a random man, the chances of it being, like,

01:58:44.100 all those points I made of the violent, the essay, all that, the chances of that are pretty

01:58:48.300 low compared to the chances of the bear seeing me, running after me, you know, so I don't

01:58:54.720 feel like arguing for the sake of the bear.

01:58:56.700 We're going to choose the man today.

01:58:58.220 So to be clear, your answer is the bear, but you just don't want to argue it because

01:59:01.620 Charlie's here.

01:59:02.920 No, no, no, no.

01:59:03.840 I said, I chose the bear on the show last time because I, I, for the sake of the argument,

01:59:07.700 I had so many reasons to argue for the bear.

01:59:10.540 Whereas like right now I'm like, why would I even do that?

01:59:13.540 Like the chances of it being a violent man and all those things that I had already mentioned,

01:59:17.400 which, you know.

01:59:18.120 So, so I convinced you through my argumentation.

01:59:21.100 No, the thing is, I already knew that from the start.

01:59:22.800 Like if you told me, if you phrased the answer, like, if you phrase the question like this,

01:59:26.140 one of my male friends or a male I knew or a male that I've even, that is in IV that

01:59:32.160 I know, like, you know, not the question though.

01:59:33.960 Not the question though.

01:59:34.960 I know.

01:59:35.780 So it's a random, it's a random man.

01:59:37.320 I'm being so real today.

01:59:38.980 Are you?

01:59:39.980 Yeah.

01:59:40.660 That's good.

01:59:41.840 So I'm going to choose the man today.

01:59:42.540 You're saying I choose the man if you frame the question like this.

01:59:46.000 No, I'm saying like that just adds to it.

01:59:48.000 But I'm choosing the man either way today.

01:59:50.540 Okay.

01:59:52.240 Man.

01:59:53.000 By the way, don't let people's previous, like you can't, if somebody else says man and

01:59:57.900 you think bear, you can, don't let them pressure you into answering otherwise.

02:00:01.580 Go ahead.

02:00:02.100 Of course, man.

02:00:02.920 But I'm curious what your reasons for bear were.

02:00:04.860 I guess I'll go watch that.

02:00:06.440 Yeah, we can get into that.

02:00:07.440 It was a horse that we grew up.

02:00:08.300 I will.

02:00:08.720 I'll watch it.

02:00:09.000 Man or bear?

02:00:09.700 Yeah, I don't understand why I would be with a bear, so.

02:00:12.280 Wait.

02:00:12.720 Okay.

02:00:12.940 Hold on.

02:00:13.540 Hold on.

02:00:14.300 Okay.

02:00:14.800 Let me just explain the scenario here.

02:00:16.440 So, there's a button on the table.

02:00:20.160 We press it.

02:00:21.200 Boom.

02:00:21.660 Instantly, you're transported into a forest.

02:00:24.020 So is a random man, and so is a random bear.

02:00:27.200 You guys are going to cross paths within five minutes, let's say.

02:00:31.380 Okay.

02:00:31.980 Man?

02:00:33.740 Okay.

02:00:36.360 I would say bear.

02:00:38.200 There we go.

02:00:38.820 Okay.

02:00:39.120 We got a bear.

02:00:40.080 All right.

02:00:40.320 Man.

02:00:41.040 Man?

02:00:41.580 Man.

02:00:42.080 Man?

02:00:42.500 Man.

02:00:42.840 Yeah, man.

02:00:44.480 You would rather.

02:00:45.320 And so, we'll get into the reasons why.

02:00:48.000 I think when we ask men this question, I'll frame it differently for you, Charlie.

02:00:51.820 Would you rather your daughter be alone in the woods with a random man, totally random

02:00:55.480 man, or a random bear?

02:00:57.620 Probably, man.

02:00:58.460 I know how vicious bears can be, and you might get a man who would be charitable.

02:01:04.580 So, you say bear.

02:01:06.400 Come on, guys.

02:01:07.300 You were bear last time.

02:01:08.560 We'll just.

02:01:09.480 Okay.

02:01:09.700 Anyways.

02:01:09.940 Why do you say bear?

02:01:12.320 Over man.

02:01:12.900 I just think, like, the chance of you potentially getting stuck with a man that could, like,

02:01:21.100 like, yeah, you can get mauled by a bear, but, like, a man can, like, keep you in captivity

02:01:25.380 and, like.

02:01:26.680 They could, like, they could torture you.

02:01:29.080 Yeah.

02:01:29.540 But they could also help you out of the woods.

02:01:31.360 Yeah.

02:01:32.100 But.

02:01:32.880 Help you survive.

02:01:34.520 Yeah, but I feel like I could probably do it myself, too.

02:01:38.360 Fair enough.

02:01:39.000 So, so you said that there's a chance that the men could do X, right?

02:01:45.500 So they could, they could, you know, whatever.

02:01:49.180 What percentage of men do you think in this scenario would opt to do, like, victimize you

02:01:58.000 in some sort of way?

02:01:58.700 I mean, I would say maybe hi, just because, like, even if I'm walking on the street, I'm,

02:02:08.000 like, getting harassed.

02:02:09.760 So, like.

02:02:10.820 Okay.

02:02:11.260 And that's wrong.

02:02:12.220 But so when you say hi, can you, like, give us a percentage?

02:02:17.620 50 percent?

02:02:18.560 60 percent?

02:02:21.000 I want to say 50, but.

02:02:22.700 Okay, so 50, so in the scenario, you think 50 percent of men would choose to attack you

02:02:30.520 or do something untoward in this situation?

02:02:36.100 I mean, you never know.

02:02:39.080 I just think, like, yeah, like a bear, you can approach the situation more calmly and you

02:02:47.220 can walk away.

02:02:49.000 You could.

02:02:49.660 What if I told you bears run faster than humans?

02:02:51.940 Does that change anything?

02:02:54.500 No.

02:02:55.240 Okay.

02:02:55.520 Because I think if you.

02:02:57.760 So you think 50 percent of men are inclined to victimize you in some sort of way?

02:03:03.680 I just would rather not be in the forest with a man.

02:03:07.200 I'd rather be alone with a bear.

02:03:11.440 Well, yeah, that's, so that's the question.

02:03:14.360 So there's, like, how many men are in here?

02:03:17.140 We've got two, four, is it six?

02:03:19.400 It's, we have, so, so half of us, three of us in this situation would, like, try to do

02:03:25.520 something gnarly, you think, or?

02:03:28.440 I mean.

02:03:29.440 Like, that's 50 percent, right?

02:03:32.460 It's that.

02:03:32.940 But, like, if it's, like, the whole population, there's probably a good amount of men that

02:03:36.820 would want to try to do something that's not helping you get out of the forest.

02:03:41.620 And is that percent of the population, is that 50 percent?

02:03:45.540 I think that's the number you used?

02:03:48.360 I mean, potentially.

02:03:50.240 Okay.

02:03:50.660 What if the man has to be afraid of us?

02:03:52.280 Do you think it's, you go to UC Riverside, right?

02:03:54.520 Do you think it would be?

02:03:55.380 Femboy.

02:03:56.000 Do you think it would be 50 percent of the men at UC Riverside would do this?

02:04:01.120 I mean, if anything, I think.

02:04:04.120 Higher?

02:04:05.060 No, definitely.

02:04:06.060 Oh, lower at UC Riverside, okay.

02:04:08.060 Yeah, but I don't think, if I was stuck in.

02:04:11.120 What's the population of the United, sorry, go ahead, go ahead.

02:04:13.220 If I was stuck in the forest with a man from UCR, like, I don't think they're going to help

02:04:16.860 me, so.

02:04:18.880 She said, what are they going to do?

02:04:20.140 Yeah, like, I don't think they're going to do anything.

02:04:22.820 Okay, so, what's the population of the United States?

02:04:26.880 320 million or something?

02:04:28.540 Anybody know?

02:04:29.600 It's 350, I think.

02:04:31.100 350, okay.

02:04:31.880 So, then, how many is that?

02:04:33.640 That's 170 million men?

02:04:36.980 About 175?

02:04:39.060 So, half of, let's say, half of 170 is 85?

02:04:45.660 Do I have that right?

02:04:46.500 Yep.

02:04:46.640 Sorry, it's been a minute since I took algebra.

02:04:49.180 Right?

02:04:49.960 75 million, or wait, what did I say?

02:04:52.060 It's like 125, right?

02:04:53.700 75 million?

02:04:56.020 100?

02:04:57.000 Wait, so half of that is, oh my God.

02:04:58.880 It's just over 87.

02:04:59.620 I'm sorry.

02:05:00.640 87.5 million.

02:05:01.860 85 million?

02:05:02.780 87.5.

02:05:04.560 85, let's just say, okay.

02:05:05.640 So, are you prepared to state that 85 million men in the United States would choose or opt

02:05:11.060 to victimize a woman in this scenario?

02:05:13.660 Hopefully not.

02:05:19.860 Well, what you hope is kind of irrelevant here.

02:05:22.880 I'm just trying to get clarification on if you think the number is actually that high.

02:05:27.720 That you think half of men would do this.

02:05:30.580 I just think it's a 50-50 chance that the person that you're stuck with is that they

02:05:35.400 will either help you or help you not.

02:05:37.220 Like, they won't help you.

02:05:38.640 Well, okay, that's...

02:05:40.720 Well, you think it's a 50-50 chance that they would help you or not help you?

02:05:44.460 Yeah, depending on the person.

02:05:45.460 There's a 50-50 chance that they will help you or not.

02:05:48.120 Not saying 50% of men...

02:05:49.580 You said your fear is about being attacked.

02:05:52.180 So, I don't...

02:05:52.740 How does helping you play into this?

02:05:54.880 Or, like, there's a 50-50 chance of them either attacking me or wanting to, like, help

02:05:59.780 me get out of the forest.

02:06:01.520 So, 50% of men would choose to attack you?

02:06:05.380 No, I'm saying, like...

02:06:07.200 It's a...

02:06:08.260 50-50 means 50%.

02:06:09.920 Like, it would be an individual percentage, like...

02:06:13.140 I don't know how to explain it.

02:06:16.460 You mean, like, on the basis of choice?

02:06:18.320 Like, a man will either hurt you or help you?

02:06:20.880 Yeah.

02:06:21.040 No, I think it's either he'll help you or not help you.

02:06:23.800 And then within not help you, maybe he'll attack you, but...

02:06:26.840 Yeah.

02:06:27.460 But that percentage goes very low, so...

02:06:32.240 I mean, I feel like I've been camping enough, so...

02:06:37.200 I feel like I'd rather just be with a bear, so...

02:06:40.560 Have you ever seen a bear in person?

02:06:43.060 I mean, no, but...

02:06:45.440 My friend, me and my friend discussed this one time, and she chose bear.

02:06:49.300 She genuinely thought that, like, baby bears were, like, Winnie the Pooh size, and, like,

02:06:53.460 adult bears were, like, German Shepherd size.

02:06:55.320 So, she's like, oh, they're all day long.

02:06:56.840 So, she's like, oh, they're all day long.

02:06:57.440 Steve or whatever?

02:06:58.200 They're huge.

02:06:59.060 Yeah.

02:06:59.940 And vicious.

02:07:01.000 Yes.

02:07:02.260 Nick, can you pull this up?

02:07:03.460 This is kind of related.

02:07:06.440 Oh, you're putting it in five inches?

02:07:07.560 No, it's the one that should already be.

02:07:11.520 Brown bear, nine feet tall, 1,300 pounds, claws up to four inches, bite force, 1,200 PSI, speed

02:07:17.860 up to 35, Kyle, 5'10", ew, 174 pounds, project engineer said hi to you at the gym.

02:07:23.880 So, this is kind of like, this is my views on this.

02:07:26.080 It's just, I don't know, it's pretty interesting.

02:07:27.700 So, I mean, Charlie, so, we've asked this question a bunch of times on the show.

02:07:34.140 A lot of women say bear.

02:07:35.600 This panel, we only have the one here.

02:07:37.880 What are your thoughts on this sort of, the women picking the bear?

02:07:41.020 Well, I'm curious, have you been victimized by men?

02:07:45.860 Like, random men?

02:07:46.860 Yeah.

02:07:47.480 I'm sorry.

02:07:48.240 Like, catcalling is, I think that's what you were alluding to before, right?

02:07:51.200 Yeah.

02:07:51.620 Like, guys harassing you on the street?

02:07:52.860 No, I'm curious how many people give those answers have had repeated negative interactions

02:07:57.680 with random men.

02:07:58.420 Right.

02:07:59.280 Because it could definitely color their...

02:08:00.640 I think it's daily.

02:08:01.900 But, oh, daily?

02:08:03.260 I'm sorry to hear that.

02:08:04.200 Yeah.

02:08:05.420 But, no, I mean, there's, I mean, in America, a lot of people would think that men are out

02:08:10.460 to hurt you.

02:08:11.220 And they're not totally wrong sometimes.

02:08:13.160 But, I mean, percentage-wise, you're much more likely to have a bear rip you apart than

02:08:17.800 have a man rip you apart.

02:08:20.640 What are the stats on, like, it's one in three, one in four women report that they've been

02:08:24.760 sexually assaulted?

02:08:25.600 It's a lot, right?

02:08:26.200 It's way inflated, though.

02:08:27.080 That's, yeah, it's, it's, there's a lot of rapes and sexual assaults, but that's...

02:08:30.980 What are the stats on, I hung out with a bear and lived to tell?

02:08:33.480 Zero, right?

02:08:34.260 Nobody's ever lived to them.

02:08:35.320 I've seen a grizzly bear up close and personal, and I've lived.

02:08:38.200 Right?

02:08:38.660 Only them.

02:08:39.720 Yeah.

02:08:39.860 I, uh, that is not fun.

02:08:41.360 You don't want to see a grizzly bear.

02:08:42.560 That is not fun.

02:08:43.360 Scary?

02:08:44.060 Oh, yeah.

02:08:44.520 They're huge.

02:08:45.120 I mean, and I'm, I'm a tall guy, and you look...

02:08:47.080 Yeah, you're tall, Charlie.

02:08:47.800 What are you, 6'4"?

02:08:48.700 Yeah, 6'4", 6'5".

02:08:49.660 Okay.

02:08:49.900 And they, they get up, and you look up at them, and they...

02:08:52.080 Grizzlies are the worst.

02:08:53.380 Now, you didn't specify what type of bear, though.

02:08:55.400 Oh, yeah.

02:08:56.080 Koala.

02:08:56.500 I was being reasonable.

02:08:57.220 Well, koala.

02:08:58.140 But if it's a, uh, if it's a, if it's a black bear, they will not hurt you.

02:09:01.840 But if it's a grizzly bear or a polar bear, a polar bear will hunt you.

02:09:04.820 I thought, sorry, third, I thought brown bear's safe.

02:09:07.620 Nick, could you find the black bear?

02:09:08.280 Yes, brown is, no, as I said, brown is safe.

02:09:10.260 Uh, well, brown is a mixture of black and grizzly, but, um, black, black is safe.

02:09:15.480 Brown, it depends how you define it.

02:09:16.700 It's not a real term.

02:09:17.400 Grizzly is a round face, and they'll hunt you down.

02:09:19.900 Uh, but polar is the worst.

02:09:21.880 Polar is bad.

02:09:22.640 Polar is the only animal that actively hunts humans.

02:09:26.360 Yeah, see, if Brian would have specified polar bear that first round on that last episode,

02:09:30.800 I would have never chosen polar bear.

02:09:31.780 Polar bear, as soon as they smell your scent within, like, a 50-mile radius, they're hunting

02:09:36.320 you.

02:09:36.740 Oh, my gosh.

02:09:37.460 So, if you have, if you pull a tag to hunt a polar bear, it's a two-way hunt.

02:09:41.540 Yeah, I think everyone is under the assumption it was the other bear.

02:09:44.120 Yeah, but the grizzly bear will leave you alone as long as you don't, like, overly provoke them.

02:09:49.180 But a grizzly does kill humans.

02:09:50.780 Very rarely does a black bear kill humans.

02:09:52.640 We actually had, uh, I think a month ago, within the past month.

02:09:56.000 I've done a lot of bear hunting, so.

02:09:57.440 Uh, within the past month, here in California, first ever black bear fatality.

02:10:01.700 A woman.

02:10:02.280 Is that right?

02:10:02.860 No, it's extremely rare.

02:10:03.960 It is rare.

02:10:04.580 A woman was, uh, killed by black bear up in, where was it?

02:10:07.820 She must have been a real, she must have done something weird.

02:10:10.220 She, she tried to poke the bear.

02:10:12.660 I don't know.

02:10:12.880 Or, yeah.

02:10:13.520 So, if you take a 22 when you're bear hunting, make sure to, like, stand off the end, because

02:10:18.560 then it'll hurt less when the bear shoves up your, because.

02:10:21.260 A 22 will not slow down a bear.

02:10:22.760 You'll just, you'll just anger it, like, do nothing, right?

02:10:24.980 No, that's, bear spray is actually more effective than 99% of firearms in stopping a bear.

02:10:29.720 That's a good, good little side note if you're ever backcountry hiking, because, uh, most

02:10:35.120 guns will just piss off the bear.

02:10:36.780 What is bear spray?

02:10:37.420 What's in bear spray?

02:10:38.660 I don't know.

02:10:39.200 I mean, it's, it's, yeah, it's like pepper spray, but it's, it's so irritating to the

02:10:42.760 bear, it just flees the area.

02:10:44.240 Yeah.

02:10:44.440 It goes right up there, not in nasal cavity, and they just, they get out of there.

02:10:47.620 I mean, again, the goal is not to kill the bear, it's to get them out of the way.

02:10:50.140 So, um, yeah.

02:10:51.760 So, you do not want to mess with the, mess with the mama bear either.

02:10:54.300 That's no fun.

02:10:54.800 Now, I did want to get back into some, uh, perhaps dating related, David doesn't know

02:11:00.440 what he's talking about.

02:11:01.440 There you go.

02:11:02.420 Uh, we're, okay, some dating related topics.

02:11:07.380 So, actually, uh, I don't know if we went around, would you guys date a, did we already

02:11:14.240 ask this?

02:11:14.620 Would you guys date a conservative guy?

02:11:17.180 You didn't ask that.

02:11:18.160 Okay.

02:11:20.000 Sure.

02:11:20.800 Yeah.

02:11:21.240 Okay.

02:11:21.440 Yeah.

02:11:22.420 Uh, if he wasn't hardcore.

02:11:23.840 Hard, hardcore.

02:11:25.420 Hardcore?

02:11:25.740 So, no, no MAGA hat?

02:11:27.560 Yeah, like, I can't have MAGA hat.

02:11:28.880 That's not an option.

02:11:29.320 No MAGA hat.

02:11:29.720 So, I'm.

02:11:30.260 What if he's, like, a conservative from, like, a different national, like, a different

02:11:33.240 nation?

02:11:34.160 Like.

02:11:34.480 Like Kazakhstan.

02:11:34.940 Like Germany.

02:11:35.740 Yeah.

02:11:36.120 Wait, no, no, no.

02:11:37.380 See?

02:11:37.720 Got her.

02:11:38.480 No, no, not part of bias.

02:11:39.960 But, like, if there's, like, a country where conservatives are, like, not hardcore, not

02:11:43.960 Trumpy, just regular guys.

02:11:45.640 Like the UK?

02:11:46.440 Would that be a good, they're kind of less conservatives in the UK or less.

02:11:49.160 Yeah, they're, they're, they're like Democrats.

02:11:50.580 Yeah.

02:11:50.720 I'm curious.

02:11:51.140 So, I would date a UK country.

02:11:52.400 I'm not, I'm not here to debate you.

02:11:53.300 I'm curious.

02:11:53.780 When, when you hear of, like, MAGA eTrumpy, what is, like, give me a word association.

02:11:57.580 What do you think?

02:11:58.860 Someone who wouldn't like me.

02:12:00.460 I, like, for one, like, it's not even just that.

02:12:03.140 Like, they wouldn't.

02:12:03.500 Is it the hair?

02:12:04.260 Huh?

02:12:04.640 Huh?

02:12:05.100 Huh?

02:12:05.280 I didn't say anything.

02:12:06.260 What?

02:12:07.080 I mean.

02:12:07.500 Is it the hair?

02:12:08.180 Like, is that what they would not like about you?

02:12:09.800 Yeah.

02:12:10.220 This hair tends to have a very different type of man than the Trumpy.

02:12:14.620 It's like the, you know, the bangs.

02:12:16.620 Yeah.

02:12:17.300 Trumpies don't like the bangs.

02:12:18.340 They don't like the bangs.

02:12:19.300 Okay.

02:12:19.400 But that's good, because I don't like Trumpies.

02:12:20.860 I don't want them approaching me either way.

02:12:22.600 Trumpies.

02:12:23.140 Yeah.

02:12:23.380 What, what, what about Trumpies don't you like?

02:12:25.760 Oh, my God.

02:12:26.620 Do you want a list of things?

02:12:28.020 Give us a list.

02:12:28.360 I'm curious.

02:12:28.780 Give us a list.

02:12:29.300 Okay.

02:12:29.480 I don't need this, this sort of.

02:12:31.320 Well, if I'm going to get really specific.

02:12:32.780 Get specific.

02:12:33.240 The type of Trumpies that I grew up with, because I'm from Woodland, California.

02:12:36.420 So, those are, like, redneck Trumpies.

02:12:37.620 Yeah, yeah.

02:12:37.940 Red, redding, California.

02:12:39.200 Sure.

02:12:39.300 No, no.

02:12:40.060 Even north of that?

02:12:40.980 Yeah.

02:12:41.260 Like, you know where Sacramento is?

02:12:42.460 Yeah, sure.

02:12:42.980 Yeah.

02:12:43.200 Right next to Sac.

02:12:44.000 And then right between Davis.

02:12:45.600 So, it's, like, cow town, like, farmer's land.

02:12:47.620 So, that's his Trumpy, Trumpy world.

02:12:49.080 Yeah.

02:12:50.200 Like, yeah.

02:12:51.520 I can't do redneck.

02:12:52.740 But you, I think you were going to list, kind of, some of the reasons why.

02:12:55.940 Well, I don't.

02:12:56.540 You want to date a Trumpy?

02:12:57.720 Yeah, because that's the type of man I'm envisioning.

02:13:00.160 A racist redneck who drives his little tractor around town and raises goats for his free time.

02:13:05.820 Sounds like a good time.

02:13:07.120 I mean, the tractor part.

02:13:08.260 I mean, I mean.

02:13:08.900 Maybe not the racism.

02:13:10.300 Yeah.

02:13:10.620 Well, I'm also Hispanic, and I speak Spanish.

02:13:13.980 So, it's, like, yeah.

02:13:15.520 These men wouldn't deal with that.

02:13:17.320 Aren't there, like, Latinos for Trump?

02:13:18.800 Oh, there are huge coalitions.

02:13:19.220 There's a lot of conservatives that are, like, Latinos.

02:13:21.260 Tons.

02:13:21.860 Yeah.

02:13:22.220 What about, like, a.

02:13:23.940 Are there, like, immigrants for Trump, or is that?

02:13:27.220 Well, there's, I mean, there's all sorts of coalitions.

02:13:29.500 That would be, yeah, something.

02:13:31.700 But, no, I'm not.

02:13:32.620 I wouldn't date an immigrant for Trump, either.

02:13:34.680 Okay.

02:13:35.300 No.

02:13:35.460 So, that's, like, a no-go.

02:13:36.580 MAGA hat.

02:13:37.240 Yeah.

02:13:37.420 No-go.

02:13:37.900 Okay.

02:13:38.240 What about you?

02:13:39.960 Every man I've loved has been conservative.

02:13:41.980 Oh, okay.

02:13:44.240 Um, yes.

02:13:45.740 You date a conservative guy?

02:13:47.420 Um, I haven't dated, but I've dealt with one.

02:13:51.120 Okay.

02:13:54.180 Yes.

02:13:56.080 Well, didn't you say that part of the reasons your relationship broke up, he, I think, if

02:14:02.080 I recall, you said he was a bit more on the conservative side, your ex-boyfriend of three years.

02:14:07.020 Uh, I wouldn't say he was, like, conservative.

02:14:11.160 Maybe not, like, politically.

02:14:12.320 He said he was Islamic, right?

02:14:13.520 Yeah.

02:14:13.660 Yeah.

02:14:14.180 Okay.

02:14:14.680 It was religious.

02:14:15.480 Yeah.

02:14:15.860 Yeah, it was Muslim.

02:14:17.160 Okay.

02:14:17.640 What about you?

02:14:18.300 Um, yeah.

02:14:19.980 Word?

02:14:20.940 Absolutely, yeah.

02:14:22.000 Okay.

02:14:22.600 And I married one.

02:14:24.120 There you go.

02:14:25.040 Okay.

02:14:25.320 I don't date men.

02:14:27.100 Okay.

02:14:27.680 All right.

02:14:28.940 Uh, thank you.

02:14:30.680 I want to ask this question.

02:14:32.520 Would you date a young Donald Trump?

02:14:39.060 Like, literally, young Donald Trump?

02:14:41.120 Yeah.

02:14:41.380 When he was young?

02:14:42.020 Yeah, when he was young.

02:14:42.520 Hell yeah.

02:14:43.540 Oh, okay.

02:14:44.760 All right.

02:14:45.300 There you go.

02:14:45.720 Would you date young Donald Trump?

02:14:47.740 Fuck no.

02:14:48.620 Fuck no?

02:14:49.280 Okay.

02:14:49.660 All right.

02:14:49.980 What about you?

02:14:51.060 Of course.

02:14:51.800 Or, uh, would you date Donald Trump now?

02:14:53.700 Well, he's married, so that would be rough, and I like Melania, so I'm not going to do

02:14:58.920 that to her.

02:14:59.440 All right.

02:14:59.600 All right.

02:15:00.620 But, yeah, in the 90s.

02:15:01.740 I have friends who used to date him in the 90s, two of my friends.

02:15:04.300 Oh.

02:15:05.100 Yeah.

02:15:05.880 And apparently he was a great guy, super fun, super smart.

02:15:08.520 I mean, you know, in Manhattan, everyone above a certain floor is a Trump fan.

02:15:12.800 Yeah.

02:15:13.260 Everyone below a certain floor hates him.

02:15:14.980 It's kind of vertical in Manhattan.

02:15:16.700 Interesting.

02:15:17.240 Okay.

02:15:17.900 Would you date young Donald Trump?

02:15:22.060 DT?

02:15:23.300 No.

02:15:24.400 No?

02:15:24.900 No.

02:15:25.480 Not your type?

02:15:26.540 I don't even know much about Donald Trump.

02:15:29.560 It must be nice living in Australia away from him.

02:15:32.120 Yeah, no, actually, no.

02:15:34.620 I haven't.

02:15:35.100 I've only seen, like, names of him.

02:15:37.260 Sure.

02:15:37.840 Would you date young Donald Trump?

02:15:40.220 I don't even know what he looked like when he was young.

02:15:42.080 He was very dashingly handsome.

02:15:43.740 Hey, pull up his mugshot, please.

02:15:47.560 I don't know much about him, so I can't really have an opinion.

02:15:51.620 No, I think he's a little bit too.

02:15:52.820 I think he uses as much fake tan as you guys.

02:15:56.580 I'm sorry.

02:15:57.100 Oh, this is a fake tan.

02:15:57.800 Oh, my God.

02:15:59.100 It's a natural tan day.

02:16:00.440 This is a fake tan.

02:16:01.060 Oh, so it's natural?

02:16:02.120 Yeah.

02:16:02.540 Oh, okay.

02:16:02.920 It is the Gold Coast.

02:16:04.300 Yeah.

02:16:04.520 Yeah.

02:16:04.740 My bad.

02:16:05.060 Oh, my God.

02:16:06.740 That's not...

02:16:07.300 Okay.

02:16:07.780 Whoa.

02:16:08.240 They photoshopped this.

02:16:10.480 That is not enough.

02:16:11.000 They photoshopped this.

02:16:11.940 This is recent.

02:16:12.620 This is not young Donald Trump.

02:16:13.740 They photoshopped this.

02:16:14.740 They put red in his eyes.

02:16:16.080 That's definitely, you know...

02:16:17.140 That's so mean.

02:16:18.120 Anyways.

02:16:19.940 Handsome guy, right?

02:16:21.240 I wouldn't date him if he was younger than me.

02:16:24.180 Okay.

02:16:24.700 All right.

02:16:25.200 I'm curious.

02:16:25.800 So, if the election was today, would you vote for Trump?

02:16:28.340 Mm.

02:16:29.300 Yeah.

02:16:30.460 Okay.

02:16:30.700 Wait, but are you a U.S. citizen?

02:16:32.680 Yes.

02:16:33.240 Oh, I thought you...

02:16:33.860 Didn't you say you were from Russia?

02:16:35.380 Yeah.

02:16:35.840 I came here when I was three.

02:16:37.140 It was like a state.

02:16:37.540 Kazakhstan's the best.

02:16:39.240 It was a...

02:16:39.900 I think I know your answer.

02:16:41.220 F, no.

02:16:42.140 I was just going to say no.

02:16:43.400 Okay.

02:16:44.480 And then...

02:16:45.860 I'm still on the fence.

02:16:47.200 On the fence.

02:16:47.300 My family knows.

02:16:47.940 I'm very, very divided.

02:16:50.060 Okay.

02:16:51.080 I feel you.

02:16:52.060 I just don't know.

02:16:53.180 And then Australia, so not applicable.

02:16:56.480 We were.

02:16:56.760 Who are you going to vote for in the presidential election?

02:17:01.500 I don't vote.

02:17:03.120 Okay.

02:17:04.660 Okay.

02:17:05.520 No idea.

02:17:07.160 Trump.

02:17:08.480 I think I know your answer.

02:17:09.640 I'm like, you know my answer.

02:17:10.460 This is a Trump-heavy panel.

02:17:12.280 Why don't you vote?

02:17:14.120 We could do young Donald.

02:17:15.960 There he is.

02:17:16.600 That's cool.

02:17:16.940 Still kind of holding on.

02:17:17.740 I'm not going to lie.

02:17:19.220 He's just a little bit.

02:17:20.660 Oh, is that successful Donald, though?

02:17:22.180 Yeah.

02:17:23.120 That's before he really started.

02:17:24.400 He sticks his eyebrows.

02:17:25.060 Look, he's got some eyebrows.

02:17:27.940 It's not body shame, okay?

02:17:29.240 This son is going to be so good looking.

02:17:30.180 All right.

02:17:31.000 Trousers on.

02:17:31.700 Yeah, this is a bit, you know.

02:17:33.320 I think perhaps some of them are a bit frightened in your presence, Charlie, to reveal their super progressive and liberal positions here.

02:17:41.940 I'm not a bear.

02:17:43.340 He's not a bear.

02:17:44.660 Not a bear.

02:17:45.320 I'm going to read.

02:17:47.120 Actually, I'll wait a little bit on the chat.

02:17:49.860 I did want to come back to the feminist conversation.

02:17:53.280 Would you date a guy who's not a feminist?

02:17:57.380 In what way?

02:17:58.440 Like he's just not a feminist.

02:17:59.680 Like what does he not, does he want me to not vote?

02:18:05.240 He's fine with women voting.

02:18:07.300 Let's just say that.

02:18:08.100 But he's not a feminist.

02:18:08.920 I don't know.

02:18:13.800 I think that question has to be elaborated a little bit more.

02:18:16.540 It's pretty generalized.

02:18:18.640 It's hard for me to say.

02:18:19.980 Okay.

02:18:20.480 I'll move it on.

02:18:21.160 What about you?

02:18:22.780 Well, is he anti-feminist or is he just like, oh, I don't hold political views type of guy?

02:18:28.200 He is anti-feminist.

02:18:31.120 Okay, no.

02:18:31.880 No?

02:18:32.520 Would you date an anti-feminist guy?

02:18:33.880 Actually, and you were gone when we asked this.

02:18:41.000 Would you date Donald Trump?

02:18:42.480 No.

02:18:43.660 Young Donald Trump?

02:18:45.600 Young Donald Trump.

02:18:47.740 Okay.

02:18:48.320 There were so many asses.

02:18:51.520 Yes.

02:18:52.120 Would you date an anti-feminist?

02:18:54.160 It would.

02:18:55.300 If he's hateful and hates women, I don't want to hear it.

02:18:57.440 So probably not.

02:18:59.220 Okay.

02:18:59.520 Well, so you can be not a feminist, but also like women.

02:19:05.640 Okay.

02:19:06.180 Then you, sure.

02:19:07.040 But you can't be anti-feminist and like women, really.

02:19:10.900 No, you can't.

02:19:11.760 To that degree.

02:19:12.580 I mean, because anti-feminist men are saying that women shouldn't vote.

02:19:15.980 They should stay in the house.

02:19:16.740 No, not necessarily.

02:19:18.700 Not necessarily.

02:19:20.940 So you can be, so feminism is an ideology.

02:19:23.540 It has nothing to do with, like, you could love women.

02:19:26.380 But people who label themselves as an anti-feminist man.

02:19:28.640 You're saying they tend to.

02:19:30.340 Yes, they tend to be those type of guys.

02:19:32.000 And we're going under generalization, you know.

02:19:35.340 Then let me ask this question.

02:19:37.460 Do women who label themselves as feminists, do they hate men?

02:19:41.580 No.

02:19:43.360 Okay.

02:19:43.920 Are there feminists who hate men?

02:19:45.200 For sure.

02:19:45.900 Very much.

02:19:46.080 Sure, yeah.

02:19:46.740 And there's anti-feminists who hate women.

02:19:48.920 Yeah.

02:19:49.440 And there's feminists who hate women.

02:19:51.060 It's a weird world.

02:19:52.140 There's anti-feminist women who also don't have any hate for women either.

02:19:55.660 Yeah, it's a weird world.

02:19:56.720 Yeah, but you can be a woman and be anti-feminist.

02:19:59.760 Yeah.

02:20:00.720 Yeah.

02:20:02.380 It's not clear to me.

02:20:03.500 So what, I mean, if you had to assign a percentage, what percentage of anti-feminists do you think

02:20:08.100 also hate women?

02:20:10.200 Over half.

02:20:11.060 That's why I would just.

02:20:11.620 More than half?

02:20:12.200 Yeah, that's why I would just choose no for that man.

02:20:14.500 It's a pretty big number.

02:20:15.720 Not sure I, I don't know if they've done a study on this, but I can't imagine that that's

02:20:19.080 actually accurate.

02:20:20.520 Where were we going around the table?

02:20:22.640 Would you date an anti-feminist?

02:20:23.920 Um, no.

02:20:29.400 No?

02:20:30.100 Okay.

02:20:31.340 Probably not.

02:20:32.860 No.

02:20:33.820 Yeah, sure.

02:20:34.440 Take back the right to vote.

02:20:35.200 I don't care.

02:20:36.220 We didn't earn it.

02:20:37.240 Nope.

02:20:37.740 What?

02:20:38.000 Oh, there you go.

02:20:38.720 Okay.

02:20:38.920 That's the new one.

02:20:39.720 It's based.

02:20:40.520 Okay.

02:20:41.720 I would.

02:20:43.200 You would.

02:20:43.640 Okay.

02:20:44.080 All right.

02:20:45.320 Yeah, well, there you have it, folks.

02:20:47.860 I don't hold on.

02:20:48.880 First off, if you...

02:20:49.860 Wait, I have a quick question.

02:20:50.540 Can I please ask?

02:20:51.300 Okay, so if you say, take back the right to vote.

02:20:54.300 Okay, cool.

02:20:55.440 Let's say they do that, and they promise you everything traditional, right?

02:20:59.420 Mm-hmm.

02:20:59.740 But then they say, by the way, because of the way that we've been living under the way

02:21:03.780 things are right now, we're under the whole population thing, where there's not enough

02:21:07.080 workforce, which is already what they're saying, right?

02:21:09.160 Okay, so what if they implement a new law where they say, women have to have four kids, five

02:21:14.660 kids, six kids, even, and they write that into law.

02:21:16.880 You can't vote on it.

02:21:18.100 Are you okay with that?

02:21:19.320 Oh, yeah.

02:21:19.740 I want, like, 12.

02:21:20.660 Like, I want a huge family.

02:21:21.720 And you are okay with all your daughters being forced to have six kids, and their daughters

02:21:25.880 being forced to have six kids?

02:21:27.440 Yeah.

02:21:27.720 Like, you understand that it's not just you being affected.

02:21:30.680 It's everyone around you.

02:21:31.920 Wait, you object to people being forced into something?

02:21:35.000 Yeah, I object to people being forced to have six kids.

02:21:37.600 Oh, and what about the draft?

02:21:39.880 I'm against the force.

02:21:42.360 Yeah, but you, but, okay, the current status quo is men are forced into registering for

02:21:47.300 the Selective Service.

02:21:48.060 Because we already agreed that there has to be a draft.

02:21:50.100 By the way, the scenario that you outlined would, I can't imagine, even, I don't even

02:21:55.040 think historically.

02:21:55.520 I would hope it would never happen, but.

02:21:56.700 I don't even think historically there's ever been a law that compelled women to have children.

02:22:02.020 Yeah.

02:22:02.440 Now, it could have been socially and culturally.

02:22:04.100 They don't even have that in Saudi Arabia.

02:22:05.800 Yeah, they don't even have that in, like.

02:22:07.200 Like, it was just, it was just an example.

02:22:08.940 I just wanted to, I just wanted to see where her mind was at.

02:22:11.560 She answered it truthfully, and that's that.

02:22:14.200 It's not an argument thing.

02:22:15.160 It's just, I wanted to see where she stood with that.

02:22:17.340 Like, she's 100% okay.

02:22:18.360 I have a question.

02:22:18.980 What if we lived in a world that forced men onto the battlefield, and they had to die and

02:22:25.000 go in the trenches and get trench food and get chemical gassed?

02:22:28.440 What if we, oh, you mean the current world?

02:22:30.700 Oh, okay, okay.

02:22:31.480 What if we lived in a world where men created that themselves?

02:22:35.800 Oh, wait, we do.

02:22:36.980 Well, actually, here, let me just rebut what you're saying.

02:22:40.220 So they actually did an analysis of monarchs, and they actually found that queens were much

02:22:45.560 more likely to wage war than kings.

02:22:47.620 Yeah, queens were also a lot more likely to have successful empires.

02:22:50.460 So, that's one thing.

02:22:53.260 Okay, but that doesn't really...

02:22:54.860 It does, because why did they have such...

02:22:56.400 But you're saying, but it's men's fault.

02:22:58.780 If I point out something that...

02:23:00.040 I said men, no, I said that thing, the war thing.

02:23:02.200 I didn't say everything is men's fault, did I?

02:23:03.840 I said the war thing.

02:23:05.080 Right, that's what I'm talking about.

02:23:06.560 Men.

02:23:07.340 Who created...

02:23:08.740 War?

02:23:09.220 It's not clear to me if men created war.

02:23:11.500 So, are you arguing that women are actually off the floor?

02:23:14.640 You think, let's assume...

02:23:15.380 Is that your argument, Brian?

02:23:16.160 Hold on, let's assume that there were no men.

02:23:18.380 And it was just societies of women, they could...

02:23:21.220 What is asexual reproduction?

02:23:22.980 I don't know what the term is called.

02:23:24.280 Parthenogenesis.

02:23:24.640 You don't think, like, differing tribes of women, you don't think they would, like, engage

02:23:29.880 in warfare?

02:23:30.760 A hundred percent.

02:23:31.440 I just don't think that they would have the current draft that we have.

02:23:34.820 I don't think that...

02:23:35.160 You don't think there would be a...

02:23:36.040 Well, this is a very hypothetical scenario.

02:23:38.180 Yeah, it very much is, but I don't think we'd have the current draft scenario that we have

02:23:42.160 if women were the ones at the front lines.

02:23:44.920 There's no men ever.

02:23:46.080 No, women wouldn't be choosing.

02:23:47.220 Let's just send everyone to war.

02:23:49.580 Wait, so what's the argument?

02:23:52.300 What's the argument?

02:23:53.280 Are you saying women want peace more?

02:23:55.500 No, he just asked me who started war, and I said men.

02:23:59.040 Oh, and I was asked...

02:23:59.780 I didn't ask you that question.

02:24:00.900 You just...

02:24:01.520 That manifested out the ether.

02:24:03.360 What just happened?

02:24:04.380 Okay, anyways, that...

02:24:06.060 I had that point.

02:24:07.020 I said men started war, and you were arguing against that.

02:24:09.640 That was that.

02:24:11.060 So you're saying that women...

02:24:12.220 If men didn't start war, then who did?

02:24:14.380 Women.

02:24:14.500 Well, it's not clear to me if it's because of gender that wars occur.

02:24:18.000 There's various geopolitical conflicts.

02:24:20.520 This is my land.

02:24:21.440 No, it's my land.

02:24:23.000 It's not clear.

02:24:23.920 I'm a man.

02:24:24.880 I have a pee-pee.

02:24:26.780 Because of this, I'm going to go to war with other men because they're men.

02:24:31.440 That's not the justification or pretext for war.

02:24:34.540 I think that the current way that we handle war, and that war is, is because of men.

02:24:40.080 That's...

02:24:40.480 How's that?

02:24:41.840 That's just my opinion.

02:24:42.720 How's the way we handle war?

02:24:44.620 Like, the current political state.

02:24:46.440 Like, the way war is, I just feel like that's because of men.

02:24:50.060 If you disagree and you say it's because of women, that's...

02:24:52.580 No, I'm not saying it's because of women.

02:24:54.100 It's not clear to me if it's because of gender or because of sex.

02:24:58.580 Oh, I believe so.

02:25:00.080 Hmm?

02:25:00.380 I believe so.

02:25:01.420 So you think...

02:25:02.300 So men engage in warfare because men?

02:25:05.640 Yeah.

02:25:06.180 Because of our male nature?

02:25:08.700 Yeah.

02:25:11.420 It couldn't be due to geopolitical conflicts?

02:25:15.780 This is my land.

02:25:16.700 No, that's my land.

02:25:18.460 I feel like it could be handled very much other ways than war.

02:25:22.300 But because of the way that the world already is,

02:25:25.340 like, we're at a point where the only option is war.

02:25:27.700 You can't give humans war and atomic bombs and all these things

02:25:31.900 and then expect them to be like,

02:25:33.080 actually, let's just have peace forever and ever.

02:25:35.680 Like, because you guys already introduced war and all these things

02:25:38.540 and the current political state,

02:25:40.340 we're always going to have war with the way we run things right now.

02:25:43.320 Yeah.

02:25:44.500 Okay.

02:25:46.360 I'm not really hearing an argument, though.

02:25:48.200 There was no argument.

02:25:49.280 I just said that this was because of men.

02:25:51.020 You wanted to argue against that, so it's kind of prolonged.

02:25:53.480 Is it because of men or because of human beings?

02:25:55.460 Yeah, that's kind of what I'm getting at.

02:25:57.440 Well, I think it's because of men.

02:25:58.920 So if women ran the world, what would that look like?

02:26:01.380 I honestly don't know, but a lot more peaceful than it is right now.

02:26:04.600 Free tampons.

02:26:05.340 So that's an interesting question.

02:26:07.300 Do you fight more amongst other women,

02:26:11.180 or do you see men fight amongst other male friends?

02:26:14.760 Honestly, the way things are handled,

02:26:16.560 I see men have a lot more conflicts than women.

02:26:19.280 Men are more physical.

02:26:21.200 But not to say women are more than them.

02:26:22.180 Do women hold grudges more, or do men hold grudges more?

02:26:24.880 Honestly, the way I see it in the world, it's too many.

02:26:26.940 You know the answer.

02:26:27.840 I can see it on your face.

02:26:28.840 Men duke it out faster.

02:26:30.180 Do men forgive quicker?

02:26:31.640 I don't know about that.

02:26:32.840 I think it depends on the man.

02:26:34.540 Do you hold grudges against other women?

02:26:37.280 I don't.

02:26:37.840 Wait, you were going to say,

02:26:39.520 actually, when it came to the grudges question,

02:26:42.200 what was going to be your statement?

02:26:44.340 Oh, I don't feel like...

02:26:45.740 He was asking, who holds grudges more?

02:26:49.560 I don't know.

02:26:51.300 I don't think women have to hold grudges more.

02:26:52.700 Going around the table, go ahead.

02:26:55.160 About who holds grudges more?

02:26:57.300 Huh?

02:26:57.800 What was the question?

02:26:59.120 You didn't hear what he literally just said 10 seconds ago?

02:27:02.060 What do you think?

02:27:12.560 Well, I wanted to say that there's lots of war in non-humans.

02:27:17.280 Chimps and lots of animals do war.

02:27:19.540 And a lot of females.

02:27:20.780 We talked about mama bears.

02:27:22.160 There's very few things more violent than a mama

02:27:24.200 if you come after her babies.

02:27:25.540 So I don't think violence is the exclusive bastion of men.

02:27:27.860 I just think because in sexually dimorphic species,

02:27:30.000 ones where the male is bigger than the female,

02:27:32.440 men are stronger and can do more damage.

02:27:34.640 They're just bigger.

02:27:35.460 But that's not all animals.

02:27:37.140 Is conflict inherently masculine?

02:27:40.820 It's inherently human.

02:27:42.420 I agree.

02:27:42.780 Yeah.

02:27:44.200 Yeah, human.

02:27:45.860 Would the world be better run with more of a feminine approach

02:27:48.880 or masculine approach?

02:27:50.280 I feel like it needs to be more balanced.

02:27:53.460 Because what I mean by that is men aren't just masculine forces,

02:27:58.620 whereas women aren't just feminine forces.

02:28:00.720 They're a blend.

02:28:01.220 So currently in America,

02:28:02.880 is America run in a more feminine way

02:28:05.140 or a more masculine way right now?

02:28:10.960 It's kind of hard because even,

02:28:12.780 I feel like if you look at most men in America right now,

02:28:15.520 they have a lot more femininity than they should.

02:28:18.160 Like, they're not masculine enough.

02:28:20.160 So I don't know.

02:28:21.800 So let me ask it differently.

02:28:22.940 Do you think in America,

02:28:24.440 feelings triumphs over reason

02:28:26.500 or does reason triumph over feelings?

02:28:31.080 The former and it's nonsense.

02:28:33.420 Feelings over reason?

02:28:34.480 Right now, I think.

02:28:35.460 Currently, yeah.

02:28:35.940 Certainly on the internet and it's nonsense.

02:28:38.320 And that would be more feminine than it is masculine?

02:28:40.980 Yeah.

02:28:41.180 Okay.

02:28:45.640 Anyone care to disagree?

02:28:46.820 Anyone else want to weigh in?

02:28:47.900 Bring back men.

02:28:48.560 Even my most ardent feminist friends.

02:28:50.960 Bring back men.

02:28:51.920 At certain times, they want a man.

02:28:54.740 That's in us.

02:28:56.280 And maybe there's a time to be sort of a man

02:28:59.100 and there's a time to be what's ascribed as more feminine, right?

02:29:03.240 When you listen to your wife, Kvetch, about stuff.

02:29:06.600 You're kind of giving to that.

02:29:07.940 So when society is more feminine,

02:29:11.460 it is...

02:29:11.840 So in the traditional nuclear family,

02:29:14.620 it is dad or the male's job to say no,

02:29:17.900 to be the rule giver,

02:29:19.140 to put an order and regimen.

02:29:20.760 That's not to say that mom can't,

02:29:22.120 but mom is supposed to be there

02:29:23.300 to be the more empathetic, compassionate.

02:29:26.700 And we see this time and time again, by the way,

02:29:29.060 of boys that are raised by just moms,

02:29:31.620 very, very violent in their trajectory, right?

02:29:34.920 Especially if they don't have men around.

02:29:36.280 It's just the way it is.

02:29:37.280 Because they've never had a male figure to tell them no.

02:29:39.960 Do you guys think in America right now,

02:29:41.840 we have a self-control problem?

02:29:45.180 I do.

02:29:46.080 100,000%, yeah.

02:29:48.300 Do you think that might be because we have

02:29:50.180 more homes without fathers than homes with fathers?

02:29:53.400 It might even be a product of capitalism.

02:29:55.140 I'm going to bring that back.

02:29:57.200 You might be.

02:29:57.860 Because if I can buy it,

02:29:59.480 I'm going to buy everything.

02:30:00.660 I want to buy six of these types of sweatshirts

02:30:03.100 rather than just one.

02:30:05.140 And that comes back to self-control.

02:30:07.460 Yeah, we definitely do not have willpower or self-control.

02:30:11.580 It's actually the two greatest predictors

02:30:13.740 of human success is intelligence and self-control.

02:30:16.460 One of those you can control.

02:30:17.600 One of those you can't.

02:30:20.380 Did anybody else want to answer this question?

02:30:21.680 I know, I'm just this lively chatter here.

02:30:24.740 He was asking a question.

02:30:27.920 Okay, here, I'll help prompt things along then.

02:30:30.400 Let's talk about something like abortion, trans.

02:30:32.520 Is there something I can get people talking or something?

02:30:34.900 Okay, I got something here.

02:30:35.600 All right, come on.

02:30:36.300 I got to go in about 30 minutes, okay?

02:30:38.540 Okay, hard out at like 8 p.m. about?

02:30:40.620 Yeah, like 8 p.m.

02:30:41.180 Yeah, we got to get home to my window.

02:30:43.780 I'm going to make it dating related, but related here.

02:30:46.360 Make it spicy.

02:30:47.240 I'll give you spicy.

02:30:48.300 I've got spicy.

02:30:49.520 All right, let's turn it up here.

02:30:50.700 I got spicy.

02:30:50.860 All right.

02:30:51.120 Okay.

02:30:51.960 Would you object to a man not wanting to date a trans woman?

02:30:57.280 Would I object to a man not wanting to date a trans woman?

02:31:00.880 So a biological man who thinks he's a woman, yeah.

02:31:04.020 No, that's his choice.

02:31:05.680 He doesn't want to date a trans woman, no.

02:31:08.200 No, same way I wouldn't object to a woman not wanting to date a trans man.

02:31:14.700 Yeah, I agree with that.

02:31:17.920 No.

02:31:19.280 No.

02:31:20.700 No.

02:31:21.780 No.

02:31:22.740 No.

02:31:23.440 I mean, that's his choice if he wants to date a trans man or not.

02:31:26.700 All right, so let me try to spice it up here.

02:31:28.740 Go ahead.

02:31:29.000 What is a woman?

02:31:31.880 That's a good question.

02:31:33.880 Biologically?

02:31:35.400 Yeah, we'll start with you.

02:31:36.660 Go ahead.

02:31:36.980 Uterus.

02:31:37.880 Uterus.

02:31:38.700 Uterus, hormones, et cetera.

02:31:40.680 Are there other definitions of women that we should accept?

02:31:44.480 This is an important, this is definitely dating related.

02:31:46.020 This is not a silly question.

02:31:47.060 This is super important.

02:31:47.980 It ties in with feminism, too.

02:31:50.340 Yeah.

02:31:50.740 Sure.

02:31:53.120 That's the ground.

02:31:54.240 That's the fundamental.

02:31:56.660 Question.

02:31:57.800 Important.

02:31:59.000 Fundamental.

02:31:59.940 Yeah.

02:32:00.260 Important.

02:32:00.760 How about this way?

02:32:01.780 Anybody can chime in.

02:32:02.860 Can someone that doesn't have a uterus that has a...

02:32:06.160 Wait, should we just go around and let them show you?

02:32:08.160 What is a woman?

02:32:09.420 A woman is someone with a uterus.

02:32:11.660 However, a uterus doesn't always define a woman because, for example, you can have your

02:32:16.520 uterus surgically removed.

02:32:17.720 You're not any less of a woman because of that.

02:32:20.220 Should we have them all answer?

02:32:21.480 Yeah, I think so.

02:32:22.060 Yeah.

02:32:22.140 And then if you want to respond, go ahead.

02:32:25.980 Yeah, I believe that a woman has a uterus, so...

02:32:29.660 So that would make me not a woman, in essence.

02:32:33.280 Here, let's let the girls answer.

02:32:34.700 Go ahead.

02:32:35.240 No.

02:32:35.400 You're asking if gender and sex are synonyms, and that's the big debate.

02:32:39.680 If you think the word woman is a synonym for the word female, then you would say a woman

02:32:44.360 has primary and secondary sexual characteristics.

02:32:47.960 If you're saying the words woman and female are not synonyms, then you could include trans

02:32:52.180 people who call themselves women but don't have the first or primary or secondary characteristics.

02:32:56.100 That's the debate, right?

02:32:59.320 Anyone with a uterus?

02:33:02.020 Or had it.

02:33:02.900 I mean, biologically, it's someone that has XX chromosomes.

02:33:08.500 Yes, someone with a uterus.

02:33:11.040 XX chromosomes.

02:33:13.340 I mean, yeah, I think there's men and women.

02:33:15.680 There's not really anything in between.

02:33:17.480 I think you need to be born with uterus, vagina, boobs.

02:33:21.100 Yes.

02:33:21.400 Well, intersex is more common than red hair or green eyes.

02:33:25.400 It's not true, but that's okay.

02:33:26.620 It's a good talking point.

02:33:27.000 It's about 1%, right?

02:33:27.600 It's not true.

02:33:27.900 No, it's not even close.

02:33:28.760 But it's a good talking point.

02:33:30.100 What is it, then?

02:33:31.020 Because it's not zero.

02:33:31.760 It's like .001%.

02:33:33.320 But they exist.

02:33:34.000 It totally exists, yes.

02:33:35.900 No, I only pick on you.

02:33:37.440 No, no, if I'm wrong about that.

02:33:38.660 But they do exist.

02:33:39.440 So we do have people that are not male, sort of, not female, sort of.

02:33:42.820 But it's a deformity, right?

02:33:43.920 Right, but they're not choosing to be trying to become female.

02:33:47.440 Of course.

02:33:47.980 No, I'm not talking about something else.

02:33:49.120 Well, for example, if I was born without a leg, that's absent of being two-legged.

02:33:53.840 It doesn't create a new category of something, right?

02:33:57.240 Okay.

02:33:57.680 And intersex is XXY.

02:34:00.360 So they're either more female or more male.

02:34:02.600 They're usually more female, usually.

02:34:04.120 But sometimes they cannot have both sex organs, a.k.a. they cannot impregnate themselves.

02:34:09.200 So there's, it's...

02:34:09.740 Hermaphrodite.

02:34:10.260 Yeah, exactly.

02:34:11.620 Let me ask it this way.

02:34:13.080 Does anyone believe that biological men can become a woman?

02:34:16.980 I think people can call themselves unicorns at this point in time if they want to.

02:34:26.420 So if that's what they choose to say, that's what it is.

02:34:31.460 But becoming a woman is a very...

02:34:35.380 In short, no.

02:34:38.820 I'm not going to deny trans people as women.

02:34:41.060 Okay, so can I pause there?

02:34:43.820 So if, as a woman, can womanhood then just be appropriated?

02:34:51.000 Someone can then say, I am what you are.

02:34:53.520 No.

02:34:54.820 You said you're not going to deny trans women.

02:34:56.620 Yeah.

02:34:57.620 So Dylan Mulvaney, who's a biological man who thinks he's a preteen woman, is he a woman?

02:35:03.840 I feel like I'm just not in the position to tell him he's not a woman.

02:35:08.340 If he says, if they say that they are a woman, I have no, you know what I mean?

02:35:14.580 I'm not going to be like, are you a woman?

02:35:15.980 Are you a man?

02:35:16.620 That's nothing to do with me, honestly.

02:35:18.760 Got it.

02:35:19.060 So if I'm 30, if I said I was 12, would you acknowledge that?

02:35:24.080 Yes, I would.

02:35:25.900 You would?

02:35:26.360 Okay.

02:35:26.600 I would acknowledge it as dumb.

02:35:28.360 As dumb?

02:35:29.080 So why is it dumb for age?

02:35:30.580 But I guess your answer previously.

02:35:32.240 Yeah.

02:35:32.440 But why is it with sex or gender, we kind of get really cautious and saying, well, I'm

02:35:37.260 not going to deny it, but if I said I was a wolf, you would laugh at me.

02:35:40.760 If I said I was a giraffe, you'd laugh at me.

02:35:42.480 But with sex and gender, we're like, oh, you could be whatever you want.

02:35:46.320 Because it's, I don't know, honestly, I've been looking at it from different perspectives

02:35:50.940 ever since that issue kind of came up.

02:35:53.020 Because I'm also, like I said, religious and also believe in the Bible.

02:35:56.020 So it's like really conflicting, you know?

02:35:57.600 But I feel like I heard this one thing on it where it was saying that it's almost like,

02:36:04.060 again, I'm not saying this is my concrete belief, but I just heard this, which kind of

02:36:07.800 made me think a little bit more about it.

02:36:09.400 And they were saying how it's kind of like a mental illness.

02:36:11.920 Like, you know how someone could be 30 and they could truly believe they're 12.

02:36:16.560 Like, those people really exist.

02:36:18.400 It's a mental illness.

02:36:19.420 Yes.

02:36:19.880 Those people exist.

02:36:20.960 You don't deny them that they exist.

02:36:22.500 You don't tell them, yeah, you're 30.

02:36:24.260 Like, what are you doing with your life?

02:36:25.220 Like, you acknowledge that it's a mental illness and you treat the person as such.

02:36:29.440 Great point.

02:36:30.180 So if somebody, you're in healthcare, came to you and they said, I'm anorexic, so I think

02:36:34.820 I'm fat.

02:36:35.840 And they said, I want liposuction, which means the forcible removal of fat, should you give

02:36:41.440 them that surgery?

02:36:42.240 Of course not, because I would be compromising their actual health.

02:36:44.740 Hold on.

02:36:45.460 But you just said that we, basically that we have to affirm somebody's mental illness.

02:36:50.560 They want liposuction.

02:36:51.840 Why shouldn't they get it?

02:36:52.560 No, I didn't, I didn't mean to affirm their mental illness as in, except, oh, you are

02:36:57.380 12.

02:36:58.060 I'm saying we shouldn't treat them as in, you shouldn't go up to them to the 12, the 30.

02:37:04.040 The 30-year-old who thinks he's 12, which is a thing.

02:37:05.920 And you shouldn't, because like, that's how people talk to trans people, right?

02:37:08.660 They'll go up to them and be like, ha ha, you think you're a woman.

02:37:11.900 Treat them with that disrespect and all that disdain.

02:37:14.340 Whereas if you see the 30-year-old who's a 12-year-old, you don't go up to them telling

02:37:19.020 them that they're 30.

02:37:20.100 You accept that they have a mental illness.

02:37:22.360 Of course.

02:37:22.800 And you, you know what I mean?

02:37:24.560 So let's apply it to the trans thing.

02:37:26.280 The 30-year-old, 12-year-old, and the liposuction thing.

02:37:29.340 Wouldn't it make more sense to treat the person and say, you're not what you think you are,

02:37:34.040 rather than affirming the lie that they think they're something else?

02:37:37.820 Because in the liposuction example, anorexia, you'd be like, no way would we give you forcible

02:37:43.740 removal of fat if you're anorexic.

02:37:45.740 But they'll just go to the next doctor who will.

02:37:47.960 Will they?

02:37:49.240 A doctor will not, under current medical procedure, give liposuction to anorexia patient.

02:37:54.680 Correct.

02:37:55.500 But in trans care, a 14-year-old can get their breasts removed if they think they're another

02:38:00.540 sex.

02:38:01.560 If they think it.

02:38:02.380 See, and that's, that's where like, it's really complicated because it's like, if it is

02:38:06.860 a mental illness, and if that, I'm not saying I 100% can't believe this, but if that's the

02:38:10.580 case, then you shouldn't, there should be a line of marker because it's like, you shouldn't

02:38:15.420 let someone who wants to mutilate their genitalia before their brains even develop.

02:38:19.920 I totally agree.

02:38:20.740 Do that if, if it is a mental illness and it is something that's heavily messing up their

02:38:25.420 brain.

02:38:25.880 What if.

02:38:26.460 You're onto something.

02:38:27.120 So the question is, when it comes to trans people, why don't we treat their, treat their

02:38:32.140 brain instead of their body?

02:38:34.240 See, I feel like, yeah, that's a good, really good point.

02:38:37.280 That's a really good point.

02:38:39.780 I can't really argue against, I, I also, if my, even though I accept trans people and

02:38:44.740 I do believe that trans women exist, I'm not going to deny them.

02:38:47.620 I don't know.

02:38:48.340 You're, you're close, you're close to, you're just saying that as a, I think you're saying

02:38:51.280 that as a talking point.

02:38:52.060 But listen, but if my daughter who is 10 years old tells me, mom, um, like I want, or actually

02:38:58.940 let's make this easier.

02:38:59.780 If it's my son that tells me, cause that way he has a genitalia that could be cut off.

02:39:03.380 Right.

02:39:03.800 If he tells me, mom, I'm not, I'm not a boy.

02:39:06.400 I'm actually a woman mutilate my genitalia.

02:39:09.500 I wouldn't do that.

02:39:10.800 Okay.

02:39:11.400 I wouldn't.

02:39:11.720 But so you, but you just said, but if they turned 18 and they asked me, mom, will you

02:39:17.260 consent to me doing this?

02:39:18.480 Like, will you disown me as a child or are you going to accept me as your child?

02:39:21.700 Who's a woman?

02:39:22.420 I would accept them as much.

02:39:23.560 No, you're, you're being consistent.

02:39:24.820 And at least you acknowledge the adult child distinction, which is super important, which

02:39:28.280 right now, just so we're clear in California, as a 14 year old, you can get your breasts

02:39:31.780 chopped off, hysterectomies, like insane, irreversible damage.

02:39:35.340 I don't believe that should be the case.

02:39:36.900 It's great.

02:39:37.540 And I totally, I think that's a bipartisan agreement.

02:39:40.680 Um, however, it gets back to the question of, and I don't know if you believe it, but you're

02:39:44.880 saying it, that you say trans people exist, trans people exist.

02:39:47.900 Okay.

02:39:48.320 They exist as human beings.

02:39:49.600 The question is, are they objectively the thing they say they are?

02:39:56.360 I'm not one to answer that.

02:39:57.880 Fair enough.

02:39:58.720 Does anybody have a comment on that?

02:40:01.400 They used to call it gender dysphoria, right?

02:40:03.600 That's what it was in the DSM three, DSM four, and then the DSM five, which is the diagnostic

02:40:08.240 statistical manual for psychiatric care in the United States.

02:40:11.080 But no, very, you've been intellectually honest on that.

02:40:13.440 And I think it's not a silly question because I'm here with a panel of women.

02:40:19.800 What it means to be a woman is a very serious thing and it's a beautiful thing, but it shouldn't

02:40:25.720 be trivialized for somebody that can just appropriate it, wear a dress and some makeup, and all of

02:40:29.600 a sudden they enter the club of womanhood.

02:40:32.380 Sometimes frustrating what the most ardent ones think is womanhood, that it's just wearing

02:40:37.940 pink and prancing around.

02:40:39.600 Women are more than that.

02:40:40.080 But is that an insult to women?

02:40:41.180 It sometimes feels that way to me.

02:40:42.960 It's like, that's what you think a woman is?

02:40:44.660 Like, we fly planes and shoot guns.

02:40:46.660 We do other stuff, too.

02:40:47.760 Yes.

02:40:48.400 And of course, the big one, motherhood.

02:40:49.960 But you're complex beings made in the image of God.

02:40:52.060 Yeah.

02:40:52.460 It's like some weird name.

02:40:53.160 Not just a costume.

02:40:54.240 It's not like dressing for Cinco de Mayo or something, right?

02:40:56.840 It feels like they're wrapping themselves up and cosplaying womanhood in a sometimes weird

02:41:01.040 way.

02:41:01.260 You brought up Dylan Mulvaney.

02:41:03.040 And in his first video, it was like the day one of womanhood.

02:41:05.800 It was like, well, I cried four times and went into credit card debt.

02:41:08.260 And it's like, is that what you think this is?

02:41:10.360 Yes, but they do.

02:41:11.440 Because they think that the problem, again, I don't, sorry if I'm interrupting Brian, but

02:41:15.800 I don't trivialize that some people that are trans are suffering.

02:41:20.960 So the question is, how do you treat suffering people with the truth?

02:41:24.140 So in a medical situation, if somebody comes in and you take their diagnosis, what they

02:41:29.680 want, and you know that there's something better for them, then you should lose your

02:41:32.840 license as a doctor.

02:41:33.760 It doesn't matter what the patient wants.

02:41:35.420 The doctor should be treating them towards.

02:41:37.340 But the issue is that the new standard of care is no longer to try to bring somebody back

02:41:41.740 into biological alignment of their birth.

02:41:45.040 It's now to try to let them on whatever journey they might think they're on.

02:41:48.960 And especially with youth, that's a dangerous trajectory.

02:41:51.880 I'm going to switch things up a little bit here.

02:41:53.820 We're going to do something I don't think we've really done before.

02:41:58.080 We're going to do a little tagging in, tagging out.

02:42:01.700 So this will only be temporary for the last about 20, 30 minutes that we have Charlie.

02:42:06.060 So I'm going to tag three of you out.

02:42:08.120 You're going to stay here.

02:42:09.100 Just we'll tag you back in in 30 minutes or so.

02:42:11.660 Do you have like subs?

02:42:12.420 Is this like a hockey game?

02:42:13.160 We're going to sub people in.

02:42:14.560 So you guys are going to get tagged out.

02:42:16.200 So I'm tagging you, you, and you out.

02:42:19.120 So just you guys can kick it back there for like 30 minutes.

02:42:21.400 You can, you know, grab a slice of pizza, take a little break.

02:42:25.060 And then other girls tagging.

02:42:26.780 Where do you keep the other people?

02:42:27.880 In the Harry Potter closet under the stairs.

02:42:30.420 You just have women waiting to come in here?

02:42:33.640 You just have women ready to go.

02:42:34.380 They're begging.

02:42:35.060 Ready to go.

02:42:35.820 It's just this.

02:42:36.800 All right.

02:42:37.220 There's binders.

02:42:37.720 They're coming.

02:42:38.440 They're coming.

02:42:38.880 Binders.

02:42:39.680 By the way, for everybody watching, this is a good book.

02:42:42.880 Plug.

02:42:43.300 Yeah.

02:42:43.560 Can I do this?

02:42:44.020 Yeah, go for it.

02:42:44.740 Perfect.

02:42:45.180 Perfect.

02:42:45.220 Everyone.

02:42:45.740 Hello.

02:42:46.320 You guys can get my book, 45books.com.

02:42:49.060 Right Wing Revolution is available for sale.

02:42:51.100 Get a copy right now as we're doing the hockey change.

02:42:53.680 Be sure.

02:42:54.320 Guys, be sure to get it.

02:42:55.820 Is it on audio?

02:42:56.680 Yeah.

02:42:57.060 Yeah.

02:42:57.780 Where's the other?

02:42:58.640 Thank you.

02:42:59.040 Wait, where's the.

02:42:59.680 She's right there.

02:43:00.680 Where?

02:43:00.960 Can you?

02:43:01.400 Hello?

02:43:02.180 Did you?

02:43:02.780 Did she not get the memo?

02:43:04.100 Sorry.

02:43:05.260 I'm here.

02:43:05.820 I'm always here.

02:43:06.240 Hello.

02:43:06.800 All right.

02:43:07.420 We went to the bathroom.

02:43:08.420 All right.

02:43:08.600 We tagged in three here.

02:43:10.220 We tagged in three.

02:43:11.920 So.

02:43:12.160 All right.

02:43:12.600 Welcome, guys.

02:43:13.980 Terrible time there.

02:43:14.800 Okay.

02:43:15.880 So.

02:43:16.380 Hi.

02:43:16.660 I was wondering where you went.

02:43:17.440 Oh, perfect.

02:43:18.220 I think it goes well.

02:43:19.220 Absolutely.

02:43:20.800 It's hard.

02:43:22.840 I'm going to put that in.

02:43:23.860 I'm sorry.

02:43:25.600 I'm signing it to Heather, by the way.

02:43:26.860 Oh, she's signing it to Heather.

02:43:28.340 There we go.

02:43:28.820 The husband is a fan of his.

02:43:30.020 Boom.

02:43:30.360 Beautiful.

02:43:30.820 Oh, nice.

02:43:31.780 Just the husband, for the record.

02:43:33.040 There you go.

02:43:33.840 I'm kidding.

02:43:35.080 Something that I think could be interesting, interested about, talking about, is submissiveness.

02:43:42.180 This is related to dating here.

02:43:44.520 Nick, could you find that umbrella picture?

02:43:46.480 And I'm curious, Charlie, if you kind of agree with the, this kind of, I guess, the biblical

02:43:50.240 order of like a relationship.

02:43:52.520 Nick, do you know what I'm talking about?

02:43:53.400 That umbrella picture.

02:43:54.560 So, going around the table, starting with you, do you think, when it comes to dating,

02:44:02.440 women ought to be submissive to their partner?

02:44:05.040 Yes.

02:44:05.580 Okay.

02:44:05.860 Generally, men lead.

02:44:07.260 Men lead, women follow?

02:44:08.440 Okay.

02:44:08.680 Generally.

02:44:09.100 To a degree.

02:44:09.820 To a degree?

02:44:10.740 No.

02:44:11.360 No?

02:44:12.720 Whatever works for the couple.

02:44:13.960 Okay.

02:44:14.500 I don't care.

02:44:15.260 Don't care?

02:44:15.760 If the man is deserving of it.

02:44:17.380 If he's deserving?

02:44:18.680 Depends.

02:44:19.520 Yeah, absolutely.

02:44:21.440 Yes, the wife should be submissive to the husband.

02:44:23.120 Nick, could you pull that photo up real quick?

02:44:24.720 Okay, so, you got Christ, husband.

02:44:28.000 I believe that.

02:44:28.540 Wife, and you agree with it?

02:44:29.940 Yes, but the key is that the husband must submit to Christ.

02:44:32.760 That's important, is that if the husband fails to submit to Christ, then the wife no

02:44:36.800 longer has to submit to the husband.

02:44:38.180 Oh, I see.

02:44:38.820 That's the kicker that is not talked about.

02:44:40.840 See, I've never heard of that point when people talk about submissiveness.

02:44:43.780 They always say you have to follow the husband.

02:44:45.600 Well, it's not what the scripture says.

02:44:46.820 The scripture says that women submit to your husbands as husbands submit to Christ.

02:44:51.360 See, that's a lot more valid.

02:44:52.460 And so, if the husband fails to submit to Jesus on the throne, well then, again, the

02:44:57.760 entire contract falls apart.

02:44:59.220 So, if the husband's an alcoholic, a drug addict.

02:45:01.580 Yeah, I mean, you have to use prudence.

02:45:02.740 But yes, if the husband is repeatedly defying God's teaching or law, if he's being adulterous,

02:45:07.780 if he's being abusive, then submission is violated because he's not submitting to Christ.

02:45:12.960 That doesn't mean that the husband won't sin.

02:45:14.420 But if he makes a pattern and a repeated defiant form of action, then that would be, that

02:45:20.920 would violate that graphic and that scripture.

02:45:24.660 Isn't that one of also AA's things is submit yourself to Christ?

02:45:27.840 Yes, that's right.

02:45:28.660 Yeah, it's very important in AA to submit yourself to Christ.

02:45:30.500 AA is the most successful model to how to free people from addiction.

02:45:36.140 And the reason, and it's been, they've tried to replicate it, is because they, in AA, it

02:45:41.760 is a uniquely Christian or geo-Christian thing.

02:45:44.720 They have to admit God.

02:45:46.080 I think when you're very down about yourself and down in your own life, it's very easy to

02:45:50.820 accept God into your life.

02:45:53.440 Like, otherwise, it's a lot harder for other people.

02:45:55.700 But when you're experiencing something like addiction, it's a lot easier to bring God into...

02:46:00.140 Or accept the higher power.

02:46:01.920 When you're down on yourself, it's like, oh, this is when I can accept the higher power

02:46:06.120 because you don't want to kind of blame yourself.

02:46:08.300 You want to be like, oh, it's a bigger, it's a bigger power that's happening.

02:46:12.240 And it works because they realize that there is a God and it is not him.

02:46:18.480 I'm not him, essentially.

02:46:20.120 So that there's a higher power.

02:46:21.440 Now, those of the three of you who we tagged in...

02:46:24.240 What's up?

02:46:25.020 You've heard Charlie here.

02:46:26.980 You've heard some takes from Charlie.

02:46:27.620 And all my hot takes.

02:46:28.500 Where were you hiding this whole time, by the way?

02:46:29.920 They were just...

02:46:30.440 We were still gaffed, diving out.

02:46:32.740 Chilling.

02:46:33.160 Covered.

02:46:33.620 In the cupboard, yeah.

02:46:35.080 Did you guys hear anything that you disagreed?

02:46:38.460 I heard Bronazons.

02:46:39.200 We heard a couple things.

02:46:39.640 Shout out Bronazons.

02:46:41.220 You said his name wrong, Doc.

02:46:43.000 Bronazons?

02:46:43.380 Bronazons.

02:46:44.040 Spelt wrong.

02:46:44.360 Well, that has nothing to...

02:46:45.340 Okay.

02:46:45.680 Did you hear anything that you disagreed with?

02:46:48.240 It was more generally disagreed with the panel.

02:46:50.920 It wasn't even him.

02:46:52.080 Speaking, it was about the whole war talk and how men will start wars and all this because

02:46:58.880 of testosterone or whatever.

02:47:00.680 That was crazy.

02:47:01.620 I just don't agree with that.

02:47:03.060 It's more of a...

02:47:04.020 Hold on.

02:47:04.360 Who's starting wars?

02:47:06.060 Well, no.

02:47:06.720 It's not a gender talk ever.

02:47:09.800 It is a class talk.

02:47:11.140 Oh, it's...

02:47:11.900 Okay.

02:47:12.240 Yeah.

02:47:12.580 So it's an argument based off of class rather than gender.

02:47:16.500 That's why the queen talk comes into play as well, where queens start more wars than...

02:47:21.260 So you disagree with her on that.

02:47:23.280 Yeah.

02:47:23.600 But is there anything you heard Charlie say that you have any disagreements on?

02:47:26.300 Oh, I was supposed to bring up with Charlie.

02:47:28.440 That was the question, yes.

02:47:29.840 Didn't you have a few points?

02:47:31.000 Let me think about it for a second.

02:47:32.060 I don't remember.

02:47:32.160 We were just arguing in the chat, but I don't remember exactly a specific point.

02:47:38.520 Okay.

02:47:38.940 Do you remember anything we were saying?

02:47:40.560 Maybe a little bit about abortion?

02:47:42.140 Maybe a little bit about war?

02:47:42.420 We can talk about abortion.

02:47:43.360 Oh, that never gets old.

02:47:46.140 I'll hit it.

02:47:46.660 Whatever.

02:47:47.260 That's fun.

02:47:47.760 That's a fun topic, isn't it?

02:47:49.440 Yeah.

02:47:49.820 I'm down.

02:47:50.140 Whenever you want.

02:47:50.820 I'm down to hit.

02:47:52.340 Absolutely.

02:47:53.280 I'm down to hit on that.

02:47:54.560 Let me just...

02:47:55.100 Just because some of these chats are going to fall off, I'm going to read like three or

02:47:58.320 four of them.

02:47:59.480 This is going to be complicated.

02:48:00.460 Can I grab water just really quick?

02:48:01.980 Oh my God.

02:48:02.260 What is it?

02:48:02.760 Diva over here.

02:48:03.900 I want to do that.

02:48:04.740 Okay, Beyonce.

02:48:05.440 We'll get you...

02:48:06.560 Jeez.

02:48:07.400 Just hang tight.

02:48:08.620 Madison will get you guys water.

02:48:10.800 Thank you, honey.

02:48:11.540 I love you.

02:48:11.660 Sorry, guys.

02:48:13.740 I'm going to have to...

02:48:14.640 I'm going to skip everything, I think.

02:48:17.560 Shit.

02:48:18.420 This is going to be difficult.

02:48:20.520 Sorry, guys.

02:48:21.180 Hold on.

02:48:22.240 I put everything on pause, so it's just going to come in like, ladies, do not say, man,

02:48:27.840 do not give in.

02:48:28.480 This is our chance to passively, aggressively remind men how much we hate them.

02:48:33.040 Well, men are trash, and we need to remind them of this every day.

02:48:35.740 I stand with the bear.

02:48:37.020 Wow, Christine.

02:48:37.880 Does anybody here hate men?

02:48:39.640 Does anybody here think men are trash?

02:48:41.120 I just love them.

02:48:41.660 Okay, good to know.

02:48:42.700 I love them.

02:48:44.020 All right, sorry, guys.

02:48:44.820 These are going to come in like very...

02:48:46.800 They left their boxes for me that I can't lift.

02:48:48.980 Jeez.

02:48:50.740 Emte, marriage and family is really important, but what if a woman feels gay?

02:48:55.080 Can it be healthy to marry a woman and have a family?

02:48:57.500 $50 for this?

02:48:57.980 Yeah.

02:48:58.600 To have a family, or should we try to change to not be attracted to women?

02:49:04.360 I mean, I guess you can't change that, right?

02:49:06.220 I don't know.

02:49:06.840 You can still have families these days.

02:49:08.260 You have a TTS coming in him from Nickelodeon.

02:49:10.540 Nickelodeon donated $300.

02:49:13.440 New question.

02:49:14.840 You're in the woods and there is a bear.

02:49:16.980 Do you want a random man for help?

02:49:19.460 Hint, the male lion protects the pride.

02:49:22.040 The male chimps protect territory.

02:49:25.040 Animal instinct.

02:49:26.220 What a great hint.

02:49:26.600 Not because pee-pee.

02:49:30.320 Really quick.

02:49:31.060 So, do you want a random man for help?

02:49:35.300 Sure.

02:49:36.100 But I think everybody here said man, so Nickelodeon.

02:49:38.720 Okay.

02:49:39.040 Everybody...

02:49:39.520 Well, you're bear, right?

02:49:40.700 You guys are bear?

02:49:41.160 No, no, no.

02:49:41.520 Bear.

02:49:41.820 No, no, no.

02:49:42.420 I'm not.

02:49:42.640 No, no, no.

02:49:43.340 We're actually...

02:49:44.060 Shut up.

02:49:44.880 Okay, so it's one-fifth of women are sexually assaulted, right?

02:49:48.300 In the U.S.

02:49:49.440 So, statistically, we should choose man, right?

02:49:52.300 If it's a random, random person.

02:49:54.380 Mm-hmm.

02:49:54.880 Yeah.

02:49:55.620 That's just...

02:49:56.160 You disagree?

02:49:56.740 No, I'm not.

02:49:57.380 I'm going to not...

02:49:58.340 No, it's just a statistical line.

02:49:59.940 You don't even have to, like...

02:50:00.820 I'm a good choosing man, but that's just...

02:50:02.620 Not true.

02:50:02.940 You should choose the four out of five, right?

02:50:05.660 That's true.

02:50:06.020 Well, it makes sense, but...

02:50:07.040 That includes verbal assault, which is not the same thing.

02:50:10.180 Kill of cereal.

02:50:10.700 Hold on.

02:50:11.280 Hold on.

02:50:11.660 Hold on.

02:50:12.060 Holy buzz-knucking barrel of monkey fucks.

02:50:14.580 It's Charlie Kirk, your legend and a pioneer.

02:50:17.100 He's a brave and a decent man.

02:50:18.760 He's a pioneer.

02:50:19.740 He is.

02:50:20.320 He is.

02:50:21.000 Welcome back, ladies.

02:50:21.820 Do yourselves a favor and open your minds to his genius.

02:50:25.380 Spice it up with a ghost pepper.

02:50:26.940 See, we're trying to get there.

02:50:27.900 We're getting there.

02:50:28.520 We are getting there.

02:50:29.380 Yo, kill of cereal.

02:50:30.180 Thank you, man.

02:50:31.520 Okay, that one's coming through.

02:50:32.700 Sorry, guys.

02:50:33.060 We're getting through.

02:50:33.720 I'm just trying to get through all of these because a few of them are about to fall off.

02:50:37.680 Sorry that these didn't come through earlier.

02:50:38.880 I just had to pause it just to get through all of them kind of in, instead of them coming

02:50:44.020 in piecemeal, I wanted to just get them all out at the same time just for the sake of

02:50:49.280 time.

02:50:49.540 I'm so glad I'm not dating donated $300.

02:50:54.460 Oh, my God.

02:50:54.840 So, black dress.

02:50:56.160 You can answer this briefly if you want.

02:50:57.560 Say your daughter is 15-year-old, hypothetically.

02:51:00.160 It's prom at her high school.

02:51:02.460 She brings home her date.

02:51:04.440 Just so happens he's a 35-year-old man that identifies as 15.

02:51:09.160 Quick answer if you can.

02:51:10.880 No.

02:51:11.680 Object to it.

02:51:12.320 What type of question is that?

02:51:13.580 Well, it's because you said that any age can identify as any age.

02:51:17.160 No, I said that was a mental illness, actually.

02:51:20.100 Oh, okay.

02:51:20.500 I said there are 30-year-olds who do actually involve and actually say I'm 12, and that's

02:51:26.320 a whole mental illness.

02:51:27.040 Okay.

02:51:27.540 So, he says, didn't want to submit a second, but why is TTS not working?

02:51:30.620 My question was tied to the current conversation and never went through.

02:51:33.420 We had to pause it temporarily just so we could get through a couple segments here, but

02:51:37.520 I just got it now.

02:51:39.280 And you submitted that just like 10 minutes ago.

02:51:41.680 But thank you, man.

02:51:42.500 I appreciate it.

02:51:43.680 And then we just have a few more here, guys.

02:51:45.840 A few more here.

02:51:47.560 And, Nick, you can hide this one that's a super.

02:51:50.460 It's below the threshold.

02:51:52.920 The Bronaissance donated $300.

02:51:55.120 Y'all crazy.

02:51:56.340 Y'all crazy.

02:51:56.840 Leche bags.

02:51:57.760 Leche bags.

02:51:59.200 Leche bags.

02:52:00.600 Leche bags.

02:52:02.020 Leche bags.

02:52:02.380 Hey, for the sake of time, I got to skip that one, man.

02:52:04.040 But Bronaissance, thank you very much.

02:52:05.320 We only have Charlie for a limited time here, but we got the message.

02:52:08.600 Is that your nickname?

02:52:09.680 From him, apparently.

02:52:12.360 From Bronaissance.

02:52:13.340 Okay.

02:52:13.640 Interesting.

02:52:13.960 Apparently, a lot of the chat said that last stream.

02:52:16.300 Oh, okay.

02:52:16.740 I didn't know.

02:52:16.900 They love her, but we don't know.

02:52:18.100 No.

02:52:18.500 No, they don't.

02:52:19.400 Okay.

02:52:19.800 Let's not.

02:52:20.680 Let's not.

02:52:22.700 Horse with no name.

02:52:23.620 Thanks for the gifted 20 subs on Twitch.

02:52:25.360 Really appreciate it.

02:52:26.140 Thank you.

02:52:26.400 Thank you.

02:52:27.060 And then we just have three more coming in, and then we'll get to the question at hand.

02:52:32.720 Alyssa, thank you for the membership.

02:52:34.200 Guys, get Charlie Kirk's book, Right Ring Revolution.

02:52:39.280 Thank you.

02:52:39.660 How to Beat the Woke.

02:52:41.100 And Save the West.

02:52:42.180 And Save the West.

02:52:42.960 Can I get a book?

02:52:43.820 One sec.

02:52:44.320 I have a copy.

02:52:44.760 You've got some copies.

02:52:45.420 You'll get a signed copy.

02:52:46.400 Hold on.

02:52:46.980 Hold on.

02:52:47.240 Hold on.

02:52:47.560 Law Paladins.

02:52:48.340 Gold Digger.

02:52:48.660 Hold on.

02:52:49.180 Hold on.

02:52:49.380 Stop.

02:52:49.700 Stop.

02:52:49.840 Stop.

02:52:50.080 Stop.

02:52:50.300 Stop.

02:52:50.500 Stop.

02:52:50.720 Stop.

02:52:50.820 Gold Digger had an important point.

02:52:52.500 Losing uteruses is a part of their plan for us.

02:52:55.140 Draft for Women is all part of their depopulation agenda to find what is progressive.

02:53:00.140 Ask what results in less babies.

02:53:02.200 Nickelodeon, you get stuck in the pattern of what you invest your time in.

02:53:05.160 If you go to college, you want the best career.

02:53:07.020 If you invest in OF, you obsess over the money, sex, and attention.

02:53:10.740 Invest in relations now.

02:53:11.980 This is to the OF girls.

02:53:13.220 What if you do both?

02:53:14.060 What if you do both?

02:53:14.620 You do OF, too, correct?

02:53:16.320 And college.

02:53:17.620 What now?

02:53:18.420 Wow, that's a double whammy.

02:53:19.720 Oops.

02:53:21.700 And then we have Brony Sans.

02:53:23.340 You look, we riot if JoJo doesn't come on.

02:53:25.960 Brony Sans.

02:53:26.520 This deserves a champagne pop that we put.

02:53:28.300 We love JoJo.

02:53:29.200 This deserves a champagne pop that we put JoJo on.

02:53:32.140 Say it with me, boys.

02:53:32.840 We want leche bags.

02:53:33.680 We want leche bags.

02:53:34.320 Okay, all right.

02:53:35.180 Oh, that was the one thing you...

02:53:35.920 Wait, can I say something before?

02:53:37.420 It's my birthday at midnight.

02:53:38.860 I will be 26 at midnight.

02:53:41.080 Tomorrow is my birthday.

02:53:42.480 Champagne pop.

02:53:43.100 Oh, my God.

02:53:43.200 I absolutely need to have a champagne pop.

02:53:44.840 Or I will cry.

02:53:46.740 And riot.

02:53:47.720 And she will cry and riot.

02:53:49.500 Okay.

02:53:49.620 All right.

02:53:50.100 Anxiety attack number two.

02:53:51.800 By the way, panel, Charlie Kirk is going to give you signed copies of this brand new book.

02:53:58.780 What part of Canada?

02:54:00.200 I'm in Vancouver.

02:54:01.480 Oh, wow.

02:54:02.180 But like past Vancouver.

02:54:03.500 That's in British Columbia, right?

02:54:04.900 Yeah, a couple hours out from Vancouver.

02:54:06.400 I'm in the boonies.

02:54:07.160 So I'll spread the word in the boonies.

02:54:08.920 You have to earn the book.

02:54:10.520 So we'll see how you do.

02:54:11.460 Come on.

02:54:12.580 She won't.

02:54:12.980 That's the best things in life to earn.

02:54:14.940 Here's the deal, though.

02:54:15.860 There you go.

02:54:16.200 She earned it.

02:54:16.660 If he signs a copy for you, you have to display it by your bedside for the rest of your life.

02:54:22.520 I stare at you.

02:54:23.220 Isn't his face at the cover?

02:54:24.340 For the rest of my life.

02:54:25.300 For the rest of my life.

02:54:27.320 I'm sorry.

02:54:28.580 It's a big face.

02:54:29.500 I will acknowledge that.

02:54:30.040 No, no, no.

02:54:30.600 It's like, come on.

02:54:31.560 Let's say I'm so committed.

02:54:33.500 You know?

02:54:34.280 You're a married man.

02:54:35.520 I am.

02:54:35.760 Deal?

02:54:36.100 Is that a deal?

02:54:36.720 I can't have that.

02:54:37.520 He'll sign a copy for you.

02:54:39.100 I can't promise that.

02:54:40.540 Okay, fine.

02:54:41.060 You can't sell it on eBay, though.

02:54:42.720 That's the rule.

02:54:43.840 How much does it go for on eBay, though?

02:54:46.240 On eBay?

02:54:46.980 A signed copy would be more than retail.

02:54:49.580 I would hope so.

02:54:50.540 I would never give that up.

02:54:52.520 I would never give that signed copy up.

02:54:54.340 There you go.

02:54:54.860 Me and forever.

02:54:56.460 Okay.

02:54:57.680 Well, we got through all the chats.

02:54:59.440 I want to thank you guys for sending all those in.

02:55:01.400 I know you had to wait a little bit there.

02:55:03.080 I just wanted to make sure we got through everything.

02:55:04.560 Thank you, guys.

02:55:05.360 Charlie, you wanted to talk about Shmoshmorshin.

02:55:10.100 Are we not allowed to say the word?

02:55:11.680 No, you can say the word.

02:55:12.400 I'm just being extra.

02:55:13.580 Okay.

02:55:14.180 I'm trying to spice it up.

02:55:15.260 Yeah, spice it up.

02:55:16.900 Let's go.

02:55:17.320 Let me see if I can frame it from a dating-related...

02:55:21.320 Would you date a guy?

02:55:23.480 Okay, hold on.

02:55:24.260 I'm so glad I'm not dating donated $300.

02:55:28.220 Don't pause the TTS, Brian.

02:55:30.860 If the chats are interrupting the conversation,

02:55:33.400 then you need to raise the price or not advertise it.

02:55:36.460 He paid $300 to say that.

02:55:38.740 Raise price, don't pause.

02:55:40.080 No, no.

02:55:40.640 He makes a point, though,

02:55:41.680 because he probably paid a $300.

02:55:43.820 He's a brave, decent man.

02:55:44.700 You got to raise the rates here.

02:55:45.800 I do.

02:55:46.420 I do.

02:55:46.760 Well, we only have a few minutes left with Charlie,

02:55:48.680 so we'll see what happens.

02:55:50.680 Oh, okay.

02:55:51.120 But in any case, I'll leave it on.

02:55:53.480 I'm leaving it on.

02:55:54.200 I just had to pause it just because we had to get through

02:55:56.400 a whole bunch of stuff, but fair game.

02:55:59.080 So, would you date a guy who was pro-life?

02:56:04.040 Starting with you.

02:56:05.080 Would I date one right now?

02:56:06.440 Yeah.

02:56:06.980 Okay.

02:56:07.840 No.

02:56:08.760 No.

02:56:09.760 Yes.

02:56:10.520 Probably not.

02:56:11.920 I don't think so.

02:56:13.560 No.

02:56:14.060 That's a requirement, yes.

02:56:16.020 Good for you.

02:56:17.500 I mean, I think women should have the right to choose

02:56:21.540 in certain situations.

02:56:25.400 Okay.

02:56:26.000 Mainly based on essaying.

02:56:28.920 Sure.

02:56:29.540 Okay.

02:56:32.920 Taking away Charlie.

02:56:34.160 Yeah.

02:56:34.380 I mean, who has strong opinions on the topic?

02:56:37.360 Don't look at me.

02:56:38.340 The Canadian.

02:56:39.760 Canadian.

02:56:40.760 All right.

02:56:41.900 For those of you that are pro-abortion, any one of you can chime in.

02:56:45.220 You can take a second.

02:56:46.500 When does life begin?

02:56:48.300 When you have consciousness.

02:56:49.920 Okay.

02:56:50.300 When is that?

02:56:50.760 Um, it's debated, but probably around 20 to 24 weeks.

02:56:55.400 Maybe 18 to 24 weeks.

02:56:56.780 So then would you say we should allow no more abortions after 18 weeks?

02:57:00.560 It's a little tougher after that.

02:57:03.020 I probably would agree that maybe you shouldn't.

02:57:06.600 If you do, maybe, you know, I'll be more okay with it, but at the same time, I'd be a little weary about it.

02:57:12.160 Okay.

02:57:12.900 Anybody else have a thought on that?

02:57:15.260 I don't care.

02:57:16.400 Okay.

02:57:16.860 Okay.

02:57:17.240 No opinion.

02:57:18.320 Hold on, because some abortions late term are kind of crazy.

02:57:22.020 You shouldn't have abortions super late term.

02:57:24.120 Right?

02:57:24.400 Which America has the craziest late term abortion laws.

02:57:27.400 Welcome to Canada.

02:57:28.460 Well, Canada's also out of control, too.

02:57:30.320 Canada is any time in Canada.

02:57:32.780 Wow.

02:57:33.820 Anytime.

02:57:34.320 That's remarkable.

02:57:35.360 What does any time mean?

02:57:36.220 Any time in the womb?

02:57:37.140 Up to gestation.

02:57:38.340 Yeah.

02:57:38.580 Up to gestation.

02:57:39.160 Oh, wow.

02:57:39.320 Yeah.

02:57:39.660 Literally.

02:57:39.960 In Canada.

02:57:41.240 I think it's dependent on area, actually.

02:57:43.220 I think it's, but abortion is also a medical term.

02:57:45.620 So, it's not necessarily that someone wants to get rid of it.

02:57:48.040 It's also a medical abortion.

02:57:49.820 So, like, you need to, because I had someone in my life who, six months in, they were super

02:57:56.040 happy about their pregnancy, and they had to have an abortion because their fetus died

02:58:00.460 inside of them.

02:58:01.640 So, yeah, that's a surgical removal, though.

02:58:03.400 That's not an abortion.

02:58:03.620 It's still considered an abortion.

02:58:05.120 Is that right?

02:58:05.700 Yeah.

02:58:05.920 It's still considered an abortion.

02:58:06.780 Well, you're not really aborting a pregnancy, so it's just a...

02:58:09.040 Maybe not aborting a pregnancy, but you're still aborting.

02:58:12.000 It's still an abortion.

02:58:13.360 I guess, yeah.

02:58:14.040 I guess that's a...

02:58:14.860 In the U.S., too.

02:58:16.000 Yeah.

02:58:16.100 Yeah.

02:58:16.380 It's still the same term.

02:58:17.420 It's still the same term.

02:58:18.320 Yeah.

02:58:18.600 It's just not technically an abortion.

02:58:20.680 An abortion would be the...

02:58:21.760 Well, when you're thinking of abortion, you're thinking of aborting a live fetus that may be

02:58:25.800 viable to live on.

02:58:27.040 Correct.

02:58:27.160 But an abortion can still be a fetus that is already dead, that you have to abort because

02:58:34.340 it will rot inside of you and kill you.

02:58:36.640 That's the sensitive areas still in the U.S.

02:58:38.680 No, even pro-life people, myself, are okay if the fetus is no longer living, removing the

02:58:42.940 fetus.

02:58:43.040 Well, that's what happened to this person that I knew.

02:58:45.200 They had to have an abortion at six months because their fetus...

02:58:47.940 Yeah, again, that's...

02:58:48.940 I wouldn't say that's an abortion, but I don't want to debate that.

02:58:50.880 It technically is an abortion.

02:58:53.020 Like with Texas, for example, Texas law, right?

02:58:55.120 You're allowed to remove a dead fetus.

02:58:57.380 Yeah, that's still an abortion at that point.

02:58:59.460 It's still an abortion.

02:59:00.260 You have to abort the fetus because it's dead.

02:59:02.280 I know, but is it living?

02:59:03.540 No, no.

02:59:03.980 It doesn't have to be living for it to be an abortion.

02:59:06.760 Right.

02:59:06.920 We're just qualming over terms.

02:59:08.040 That would be a surgery for...

02:59:09.880 But we should call it what it is.

02:59:11.300 If it's an abortion, it's an abortion.

02:59:12.800 Okay, that's an interesting debate.

02:59:13.920 What is abortion?

02:59:15.920 Removing a fetus dead or alive from your body.

02:59:18.100 Okay, dead or alive.

02:59:18.400 I would say alive.

02:59:18.980 We just disagree.

02:59:19.840 Yeah.

02:59:20.460 Meaning I would say that ceasing the life.

02:59:22.620 That's interesting you said dead or alive.

02:59:23.680 But even when it's dead, you have to abort it.

02:59:26.580 You have to remove it.

02:59:27.820 Abort.

02:59:28.020 You can remove it?

02:59:28.700 Abort.

02:59:28.980 Abort mission.

02:59:29.720 Well, you can remove it without surgery, though.

02:59:32.920 No, not when it's six months old.

02:59:34.480 Well, not six months, but at a month.

02:59:36.380 So what about six months?

02:59:37.560 What would you call it then?

02:59:38.320 When you have to remove a six-month-old fetus, what is it then?

02:59:40.260 Again, we're qualming over terms.

02:59:41.200 I wouldn't disagree that it requires surgery, but...

02:59:43.460 Is it not an abortion?

02:59:44.620 No, because you're not actually aborting the mission.

02:59:46.320 You have to abort the mission.

02:59:48.260 The fetus is dead.

02:59:49.520 Remove it.

02:59:50.020 So 500 years ago, how did that fetus leave the...

02:59:54.320 You know, the mother...

02:59:55.400 The fetus would rot inside the mother, and the mother would die.

02:59:58.140 Not all the time, no.

02:59:59.300 The woman could also give birth to the dead fetus.

03:00:01.700 But that doesn't happen all the time.

03:00:02.200 But that doesn't...

03:00:02.760 Again...

03:00:03.000 That rarely happens.

03:00:04.760 That's why they call upon it to be removed, because nine times out of ten, the mother will

03:00:09.380 die from the fetus running inside of her.

03:00:11.300 I'm morally fine with that.

03:00:12.660 That's for sure.

03:00:13.220 Do you think that if a baby can feel pain, regardless of consciousness...

03:00:17.800 Hold on.

03:00:18.260 I'm talking about a dead fetus at six months.

03:00:19.760 No, no.

03:00:19.960 I'm not disagreeing with that.

03:00:20.960 You're dwelling on that micro-issue.

03:00:22.300 No, okay.

03:00:22.820 Sorry, sorry, sorry.

03:00:23.840 Hold on.

03:00:24.200 I'm listening.

03:00:24.760 Okay.

03:00:25.140 But going way back to when abortion should be illegal.

03:00:29.320 So you say life begins at consciousness.

03:00:31.140 Sorry.

03:00:31.460 When should abortion be illegal?

03:00:32.900 At what time?

03:00:33.660 I think all abortions should be illegal.

03:00:35.120 But at what time?

03:00:36.120 You said when should...

03:00:36.960 At beginning at conception.

03:00:38.160 Okay.

03:00:38.500 No.

03:00:39.300 I'm trying to understand your position.

03:00:41.300 Okay, I'll hold back.

03:00:43.200 I'm listening.

03:00:43.760 Sorry, I'm just going to shut up.

03:00:44.940 That's okay.

03:00:45.640 So you say consciousness is when life begins.

03:00:49.340 Mm-hmm.

03:00:49.820 Okay.

03:00:50.320 So then if somebody is without consciousness after a car accident and they're on life support,

03:00:55.780 they're no longer living.

03:00:57.300 Unplug them.

03:00:57.920 Take me out.

03:00:58.220 Unplug them.

03:00:58.780 Okay.

03:00:59.320 Yeah.

03:00:59.800 I'm fine with that.

03:01:00.300 You're consistent.

03:01:00.820 So even the ones that come back to full consciousness when their brain waves are no longer detected,

03:01:03.900 it doesn't matter.

03:01:04.340 Too late, baby.

03:01:04.860 Unplug.

03:01:07.020 I'm fine with that.

03:01:07.960 I have no issue with that.

03:01:09.980 What do you mean?

03:01:10.680 How is that crazy?

03:01:11.840 That's kind of...

03:01:12.820 That's inhumane, isn't it?

03:01:14.000 A lot of people...

03:01:14.280 That is not...

03:01:15.800 Okay.

03:01:16.420 But also I see her point because so many people are kept alive by their family members who

03:01:20.820 are grieving.

03:01:21.600 But I thought they're not alive.

03:01:23.100 No, no.

03:01:23.620 So you're...

03:01:24.080 But they're kept...

03:01:25.360 Plugged in.

03:01:25.700 Their bodies are kept physically alive by their families that are grieving.

03:01:29.540 And I'm talking about like for years and years.

03:01:31.340 Sometimes.

03:01:31.480 The families that I can afford it, right?

03:01:33.140 And it's like in the...

03:01:34.000 That's why I see her point.

03:01:35.040 But also a physically developing fetus is not the same as a full-grown human that's already

03:01:42.120 alive.

03:01:42.380 For sure.

03:01:42.720 What species is the fetus?

03:01:45.180 They're human, but they're still a fetus.

03:01:47.020 That's why we differentiate a fetus from a human.

03:01:49.420 But what does fetus mean?

03:01:50.460 What does that mean?

03:01:50.940 Fetus is a developing human.

03:01:52.700 They're not quite human yet.

03:01:54.060 Or embryo.

03:01:54.760 So they become a human, right?

03:01:56.880 When brain waves happen?

03:01:57.360 When they develop mental consciousness.

03:02:00.820 Which could be as early as six weeks, 12 weeks.

03:02:02.820 But I'll take your 18 weeks, yes.

03:02:04.260 We don't know the exact date.

03:02:04.860 But if I told you, if we have data that shows six weeks, you'd be cool with cutting it off.

03:02:08.320 Yeah.

03:02:08.720 If we could see six weeks that you had mental consciousness, that you could experience life

03:02:15.240 and form memories, but at six weeks, you can't.

03:02:17.640 You just can't.

03:02:18.200 Do you even have a heartbeat at six weeks?

03:02:20.180 No.

03:02:20.520 Well, you do.

03:02:20.900 Yeah.

03:02:21.080 Around six or seven weeks.

03:02:22.140 Isn't it not ten weeks?

03:02:23.260 It depends.

03:02:24.100 I mean, we sort of know.

03:02:26.040 I mean, every baby's trajectory is different.

03:02:27.460 It's between six to ten weeks.

03:02:28.960 So yeah.

03:02:29.220 Yeah, but if a baby can feel pain and have a heartbeat, you're okay with that?

03:02:34.520 No.

03:02:34.960 I don't care about a heartbeat at all.

03:02:37.240 I don't care about a heartbeat in any capacity.

03:02:39.360 Why?

03:02:39.900 Because if I'm brain dead and I'm laying in a hospital bed and I have a heartbeat and

03:02:44.020 my brain is dead, you're going to pull the plug.

03:02:45.720 Do you think that a human being is more than brain waves?

03:02:48.780 No.

03:02:49.420 It's all about your brain.

03:02:50.480 No.

03:02:50.640 See, we have a good disagreement here.

03:02:51.940 I think a human being has a soul.

03:02:53.160 Does anyone else think human beings have souls?

03:02:54.300 No, I believe you have a soul, but your soul connects to your brain.

03:02:56.380 Oh, hold on.

03:02:56.900 No.

03:02:57.580 Yeah, I think so.

03:02:58.400 Who else thinks we have souls?

03:03:00.200 I also believe we have a soul.

03:03:01.340 We have soul?

03:03:01.880 Yeah.

03:03:02.020 Soul?

03:03:02.680 Soul?

03:03:03.440 Soul?

03:03:04.220 Soul?

03:03:04.760 Not sure.

03:03:05.440 Not sure.

03:03:06.560 Meh.

03:03:07.120 What do you think?

03:03:07.640 Of course.

03:03:08.220 Yes.

03:03:08.740 So you think soul or yes or no?

03:03:11.400 Sorry, hold on.

03:03:12.380 There's water.

03:03:13.000 That's okay.

03:03:13.360 So you think soul, brain, and mind are all one thing, right?

03:03:15.760 That's what you think.

03:03:16.600 I think it all connects in some way.

03:03:17.980 Got it.

03:03:18.200 For sure.

03:03:18.400 So I believe that soul happens as soon as creation happens.

03:03:22.740 I agree with that.

03:03:24.100 Yes.

03:03:25.060 I agree with that.

03:03:25.620 So then if you are terminating a baby prior to brainwaves, you're still terminating a soul.

03:03:29.980 Your soul will go into another being.

03:03:31.660 You'll get reincarnated into something else.

03:03:32.900 I don't believe that.

03:03:33.620 What is your soul without a brain?

03:03:35.640 That's a good question.

03:03:36.920 So, I mean, let's play this out.

03:03:39.080 When you die, if we believe in a soul, then it transcends your brainwaves.

03:03:42.640 Yeah.

03:03:43.760 So that means it's not in your brain, then.

03:03:45.680 It's outside of your brain.

03:03:46.700 It's your whole being is your soul.

03:03:47.960 Yeah, but you're not physically here.

03:03:49.260 So what would be the difference between pulling the cord or not pulling the cord?

03:03:51.620 Exactly.

03:03:51.860 Your soul would still exist.

03:03:53.360 Well, no, for sure.

03:03:54.280 With that argument, we should just kill a lot of people and think nothing of it.

03:03:57.180 Sure.

03:03:57.720 Their souls will go where they need to go.

03:03:59.040 I know, but what you're saying is that since a being has a soul, which is my argument,

03:04:04.500 we don't have a right to pull the plug or to terminate that being, regardless of as brainwaves

03:04:09.520 or not, because the soul is there at the moment of creation.

03:04:11.400 Well, no, because when your loved one is suffering and they're, you know.

03:04:14.020 Well, hold on.

03:04:14.600 The fetus is not suffering.

03:04:15.740 The baby's not suffering at two weeks.

03:04:17.220 Can I ask a question?

03:04:18.720 How does this translate to like war?

03:04:22.280 When you, well, there's a lot of people.

03:04:24.040 No, wait.

03:04:24.760 She's pulling me.

03:04:25.900 She's pulling me.

03:04:26.900 I like your popcorn.

03:04:27.740 It's because it's like, we can argue, we can argue, we can argue about abortion and

03:04:34.760 things like that and how it's wrong.

03:04:36.040 But then some, a lot of, or some more right leaning are okay with war still and like sacrificing

03:04:42.440 men's lives.

03:04:43.340 So how, how does that translate with the argument?

03:04:45.600 It's a good question.

03:04:46.340 I mean, I'm, I'm totally against the Ukraine Russian war, for example.

03:04:49.180 I think it should end.

03:04:50.000 I mean, I, again, I think all, all human beings are made of the image of God.

03:04:52.860 Nothing should be trivialized.

03:04:54.000 But as far as like people being okay with war, I mean, you have to give me an example.

03:04:59.540 Wait, can I be charitable here?

03:05:01.020 Would the, perhaps a better argument from your position be, why are these people also

03:05:05.140 in favor of the death sentence?

03:05:06.900 Is that kind of what you're talking about?

03:05:07.920 Sure, sure.

03:05:07.940 That can be enough.

03:05:08.540 Okay.

03:05:08.820 I mean, that's a good question because.

03:05:10.200 Are you in favor of the death sentence?

03:05:11.380 Yeah, the death penalty.

03:05:11.980 Absolutely.

03:05:12.460 But, okay.

03:05:12.860 So you're in favor of the death penalty, but you're not in favor of abortion because you

03:05:17.040 think infants are innocent.

03:05:18.860 Is that why?

03:05:19.540 Well, yes, let's take, let's, let's take an example.

03:05:22.080 Okay.

03:05:23.020 This last week, two illegal aliens in this country just kidnapped and raped a 12 year

03:05:27.920 old.

03:05:28.540 Not the illegal aliens.

03:05:30.060 Sorry.

03:05:30.220 Yeah.

03:05:30.380 So a baby in the womb did not kidnap and rape a 12 year old.

03:05:34.760 Okay.

03:05:35.060 But they have the potential to.

03:05:36.240 Hold on.

03:05:36.580 Well, everyone has, everyone has free will and the potential to, but someone who just kidnapped

03:05:41.520 and raped two 12 year olds, they're in a complete different moral universe than a baby who

03:05:46.860 is sitting patiently in a womb.

03:05:48.260 It's also, it's the argument, like I totally understand that fetuses are innocent, but

03:05:52.560 it's the same argument that like, you know, if it, if it's the, what is it?

03:05:57.400 The violinist.

03:05:58.040 I talked about this before.

03:05:59.000 The first time I was on the violinist argument.

03:05:59.920 I've been through this so many times.

03:06:01.160 I know you've been through this, but I'll, I'll still run it through.

03:06:03.860 The violinist argument where you're hooked up, you wake up and you're hooked up to the

03:06:07.740 most famous violinist and they're hooked up to you and you have to sit there for nine

03:06:11.240 months bedridden to take care of them.

03:06:13.680 In order for that metaphor to be true, did you know the night before that you had a chance

03:06:17.760 to potentially be hooked up to a vinyl violinist if you had a bunch of pleasure?

03:06:21.100 Okay.

03:06:21.480 I, I get that part, but even, even.

03:06:24.460 Because you agreed to have sex before all of a sudden the violinist showed up in your

03:06:27.820 room.

03:06:27.940 Even at that point, even at that point, accidents happen.

03:06:30.580 Like you can, like, it's also like you could just leave your front door open by accident.

03:06:34.060 Now someone's sitting in your house for fucking eight months, nine months.

03:06:37.580 But having sex is a choice.

03:06:39.060 Now less than 1% of all abortions are rape incest, but having sex is a choice.

03:06:42.460 You don't have to have that choice.

03:06:43.540 But you, but you don't choose to be pregnant when you have sex.

03:06:46.640 You don't choose to be pregnant.

03:06:47.800 Well, hold on.

03:06:48.140 But you have a choice to have sex in the first place.

03:06:50.840 Yes, but you don't choose to be pregnant.

03:06:52.400 Pregnancy, sex doesn't always lead to pregnancy.

03:06:54.720 Women are only fertile for five days of the month.

03:06:57.560 Right.

03:06:57.840 So why do you need to have sex?

03:07:00.320 Feels good.

03:07:01.320 What are you talking about?

03:07:02.260 So we should just do what feels good regardless of the choices or consequences?

03:07:05.180 Yes, people do that all the time.

03:07:06.340 But just because people do things all the time, is that right?

03:07:09.080 No, it's not about people.

03:07:11.300 People like feeling good.

03:07:12.720 People like doing good things that give them dopamine and serotonin.

03:07:14.620 We're getting somewhere, right.

03:07:15.820 So should what feels good be prioritized over what is good?

03:07:21.160 Sometimes it depends exactly on what it is.

03:07:23.860 Okay.

03:07:24.200 So if I can have pleasure and a bunch of people die, that's perfectly fine.

03:07:28.720 I said it depends on what it is.

03:07:30.240 If people are dying.

03:07:31.820 Okay.

03:07:32.080 So again, back to the point is that you don't, outside of rape or those very, very fringe

03:07:37.140 text cases, 99% of the time, you don't just wake up and you're magically pregnant.

03:07:41.400 No, no.

03:07:42.040 You know that you had sex and you're like, oh shit.

03:07:44.740 So hold on a second.

03:07:45.480 So why do you then get to have the orgasm without the responsibility?

03:07:49.040 Hold on.

03:07:49.520 Because you don't get to have the orgasm.

03:07:51.500 You just wake up pregnant.

03:07:52.720 Let's be honest.

03:07:53.220 But if the woman chooses to keep the baby, the man has to pay child support.

03:07:59.760 I don't agree with that.

03:08:01.000 Well, it's the law.

03:08:02.100 But yeah.

03:08:02.660 Well, the law might be stupid sometimes.

03:08:04.740 Well, that's right.

03:08:05.180 Both parties made the choice, which is interesting.

03:08:06.860 Do you think that men should be able to have a say before a woman has an abortion?

03:08:10.000 I think it should be a conversation.

03:08:11.360 I don't.

03:08:11.620 But here's the thing.

03:08:12.380 I don't think it should be able to.

03:08:12.940 Should both parties have to agree?

03:08:13.920 I think so.

03:08:14.800 I think so.

03:08:15.320 You're consistent.

03:08:16.020 Good for you.

03:08:16.540 I don't think you should be able to force women into abortion, just like you shouldn't be

03:08:19.740 able to force women out of an abortion.

03:08:21.480 You shouldn't, no way, each way or the other.

03:08:24.200 No way.

03:08:24.640 You can't tell someone to do with their body.

03:08:26.720 Hold on.

03:08:26.960 But is it their body or is it that another body is within their body?

03:08:30.080 It's, okay.

03:08:30.940 But if someone broke into my house, I would put a gun to their head and say, get the

03:08:34.140 fuck out or die.

03:08:35.320 But wait, hold on.

03:08:36.060 You invited the baby into the house with somebody.

03:08:38.680 No, no.

03:08:38.720 In game.

03:08:39.280 In a night of passion.

03:08:40.600 I didn't invite the, I didn't invite the baby open.

03:08:42.760 I left the door unlocked by accident.

03:08:44.800 Can somebody push it?

03:08:45.360 Yeah, I can.

03:08:46.040 Push it back.

03:08:46.480 But wait, that, that baby is then within you.

03:08:49.660 Okay.

03:08:50.020 And, and it's still my body within me, me, my body.

03:08:53.420 Right.

03:08:53.720 But it's, so is it your DNA?

03:08:56.080 It doesn't matter if it's my DNA.

03:08:57.380 Hold on.

03:08:57.700 Why do you, hold on.

03:08:58.500 Why do you have control over somebody else's DNA?

03:09:00.660 I thought you said.

03:09:01.060 Because they're in me.

03:09:01.680 If they want to control.

03:09:02.680 Oh, got it.

03:09:02.820 So it's a location issue.

03:09:04.480 Super interesting.

03:09:05.660 So location matters more than being.

03:09:08.880 Just because somebody happens to be within a womb.

03:09:10.860 If it was, if it was my baby in Hawaii, take them out.

03:09:15.240 However, so if somebody has, if it's your DNA, you have total choice of your DNA.

03:09:21.700 To take a vaccine or not a vaccine.

03:09:23.440 To be able to take, eat Coke, drink Coke or drink Sprite.

03:09:25.720 If they're in my body and they're affecting my life, I'll do what I want with them.

03:09:29.660 Okay.

03:09:30.260 Easily.

03:09:30.620 So just because somebody's location determines their moral worth.

03:09:34.520 No, it's not about necessarily location.

03:09:36.280 It's about how they affect me.

03:09:37.840 For, for nine months after you chose to be able to get in that circumstance.

03:09:41.460 It's not even just nine months.

03:09:42.760 It's after the fact too.

03:09:43.860 You have postpartum depression.

03:09:45.640 No.

03:09:45.900 Yeah.

03:09:46.160 So that's interesting.

03:09:47.020 So I, we're getting somewhere.

03:09:48.280 So your argument is you should do what is expedient, even if there is a victim and there might be a casualty.

03:09:54.840 They wouldn't even know they're a victim.

03:09:56.360 Okay.

03:09:56.800 That's interesting.

03:09:57.380 Is it okay to murder if the person does not know they were murdered?

03:10:02.220 Sure.

03:10:02.740 Why not?

03:10:03.340 They won't even know.

03:10:04.340 So it's okay to go to an old person's home, a bunch of people with dementia, and just start popping rounds?

03:10:08.580 Sure.

03:10:09.060 Bye.

03:10:09.720 Popping rounds.

03:10:10.680 Oh, my God.

03:10:11.860 You just killed your argument.

03:10:13.240 No, I'm not even kidding.

03:10:14.160 No, you did just kill your argument.

03:10:15.360 So we can go to old people's homes, dementia, Alzheimer's, their drain on society.

03:10:18.500 They don't know who they are.

03:10:19.300 They don't know their name.

03:10:20.180 They don't know their relatives.

03:10:21.440 By the way, millions be able to mention Alzheimer's.

03:10:23.180 And we just kill them.

03:10:23.580 I don't think that you should.

03:10:25.080 Hold on.

03:10:25.520 Oh, no.

03:10:25.680 You said you should be able to.

03:10:27.540 But it's not necessarily like, if they're never going to know, they're never going to know.

03:10:32.660 Okay.

03:10:32.880 So murdering dementia patients is consistent.

03:10:35.700 You're right.

03:10:35.940 You are being consistent.

03:10:36.840 I think there is a little bit of inconsistency.

03:10:39.500 Because like, after you're dead, you're dead.

03:10:41.340 In a lot of cases, in a lot of religions, right?

03:10:43.620 A fetus isn't even born, though.

03:10:45.140 They're not even born.

03:10:45.540 Yeah, but let's say there's a person on the street.

03:10:47.980 Someone goes and shoots you.

03:10:48.900 They're not even allowed to be dead.

03:10:49.860 You won't know.

03:10:50.540 Yeah.

03:10:51.060 But hold on.

03:10:51.740 If you go.

03:10:52.340 Same argument.

03:10:53.280 The idea is, the question is this.

03:10:55.300 Is just because something is not born, are they alive?

03:10:57.860 And do they have value?

03:10:59.540 I don't think so.

03:11:00.760 Okay.

03:11:01.400 So let's go through it.

03:11:02.440 So just because, is it because the baby is, the fetus or baby is small?

03:11:05.240 They don't have consciousness.

03:11:06.360 Hold on.

03:11:06.680 We've gone, we've gone through that.

03:11:07.900 I want to try to.

03:11:08.800 Sure.

03:11:09.160 Okay.

03:11:09.420 Is it because they're small?

03:11:11.180 Yeah, that's not your argument.

03:11:12.300 Location.

03:11:12.760 That's your argument.

03:11:13.700 No, no.

03:11:14.800 Environment.

03:11:15.800 But you said degree of dependency.

03:11:17.760 That's the one that you said.

03:11:18.820 You said, wait, you said environment, but I don't agree with the environment.

03:11:21.900 Well, meaning like where the, I'm going through the acronym of what most pro-abortion arguments

03:11:25.980 are.

03:11:26.300 Size, level development, environment, degree of dependency.

03:11:28.560 So I'm trying to, I always try to find which one you're prior, because every pro-abortion

03:11:32.000 argument falls into one of four arguments.

03:11:33.380 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

03:11:34.200 So degree of dependency.

03:11:35.860 This baby is going to take from me.

03:11:38.500 Are you glad your mom nurtured you for nine months in the womb?

03:11:41.760 I mean, not really, to be honest.

03:11:44.560 So you wish you wouldn't have been born?

03:11:46.600 I'm chill with that, for sure.

03:11:49.080 Huh?

03:11:50.460 Hmm?

03:11:51.000 Okay.

03:11:51.300 You're consistent.

03:11:52.360 I am.

03:11:53.140 Yeah.

03:11:53.420 So if you were just to be killed tomorrow, not a big deal.

03:11:56.420 I'd never be, I wouldn't even be having this conversation.

03:11:59.320 W?

03:12:00.020 I think that, I think, I think that this is important because 40 years ago, an average

03:12:06.180 woman would not have answered it that way.

03:12:07.880 They would have, they would have said, my life is beautiful.

03:12:10.400 My life has meaning.

03:12:11.140 My life has purpose.

03:12:12.020 And I'm glad my mom sacrificed for me.

03:12:14.220 I don't think that's the case for every single woman 40 years ago.

03:12:16.280 Well, the vast majority of women 40 years ago were not as depressed, not as suicidal.

03:12:20.560 No, I think you can argue now.

03:12:21.780 The vast majority is still the same way.

03:12:23.980 She's, yeah, inconsistent.

03:12:25.060 I'm the consistent as hell.

03:12:27.780 So do you think that she is the mainstream opinion or do you think she's a fringe opinion?

03:12:31.160 No, she's a fringe opinion.

03:12:32.120 Okay, fair enough.

03:12:32.460 For sure.

03:12:32.980 I like fringe.

03:12:33.980 It feels good.

03:12:34.680 Okay.

03:12:36.260 Completely.

03:12:37.240 Yeah.

03:12:37.900 Do you think she's a mainstream opinion or fringe opinion?

03:12:39.880 I think it's pretty fringe.

03:12:40.560 Okay.

03:12:40.920 Yeah.

03:12:42.020 I'm fine with that.

03:12:42.880 That doesn't bother me at all.

03:12:44.140 Does anyone else have opinions on this matter?

03:12:46.800 If I were to say that abortion was illegal in America tomorrow, that would be worrisome to

03:12:51.740 you guys?

03:12:52.540 Yeah.

03:12:53.040 Yeah.

03:12:53.420 100%.

03:12:53.820 I think it's, when we say pro-abortion, I don't think that that's necessarily accurate

03:12:58.120 for how I feel.

03:12:58.960 I think I'm pro-choice because people are probably going to get abortions anyways.

03:13:02.400 I would prefer them be safe.

03:13:03.960 It's not something I would necessarily do for myself, but I do think if it's going to

03:13:08.120 be happening, which it is, it should be safe and it should be something that everyone talks

03:13:12.920 about and everyone's educated on beforehand.

03:13:14.660 So in Texas, they just outlawed abortion.

03:13:16.640 Abortion rates have gone down dramatically.

03:13:18.220 So it's not totally true.

03:13:19.060 It's half true.

03:13:19.660 They're going to other states to get them, but the birth rate's gone up.

03:13:21.800 So it's like this idea that people are going to find them otherwise.

03:13:24.380 Sometimes they just have the baby instead.

03:13:26.020 Are you more concerned with the birth rate going up or?

03:13:28.220 Well, all of it.

03:13:29.280 The morality of it's the number one issue, which we do not have a moral obligation to

03:13:33.380 terminate human beings smaller than us.

03:13:35.220 So I have a question for you.

03:13:36.360 So if it was scientifically proven, like a hundred percent without a doubt that you don't have

03:13:41.240 a consciousness, you don't feel pain until the day you come out of the womb, you're fine

03:13:44.900 with any and all types of abortions all of a sudden.

03:13:47.180 No, no.

03:13:47.620 Consciousness is not my, that's her argument.

03:13:48.960 My argument is that at the point of your DNA's creation, a new soul is entering the world

03:13:53.720 and the soul transcends reason.

03:13:55.900 And I'll prove it to you guys.

03:13:57.060 So you're saying soul and consciousness aren't related.

03:13:59.920 No, not at all.

03:14:00.440 We know that at least in the religious realm, because when your consciousness ceases, your

03:14:04.360 soul lives because it goes to an afterlife in a religious context.

03:14:08.920 I'm not going to win you over on a modern context on that, but let me try to win you

03:14:13.840 over because there are points when you, we all see beauty, when our reason or our consciousness

03:14:18.680 is not able to describe them.

03:14:20.680 I was at a loss for words.

03:14:22.360 That sunset was so beautiful.

03:14:23.820 I, I, it took my breath away.

03:14:25.300 It was breathtaking.

03:14:26.360 It was at times there are things that hit us on a soul level.

03:14:29.880 We all know this when we hear a certain song, see a certain painting, experience natural

03:14:33.500 beauty that touch us on a level that cannot always be described using our, our reasonable

03:14:39.900 faculties.

03:14:41.400 And I know we all have had those.

03:14:42.820 When you go to Yosemite, when you see a sunset in Santa Barbara, all of a sudden you're like,

03:14:46.480 wow, that is, that, that touches me at a level that is eternal and beautiful and is divine.

03:14:51.660 My argument is that every being at the time of creation, which is when the sperm and egg

03:14:57.000 meet, when the deoxyribonucleic acid is formed, that being has a soul.

03:15:02.180 And if you don't make the soul argument, then you make the consciousness argument.

03:15:05.540 And it's easy to make that because it's just, we're all, we're not, I think our being is

03:15:09.040 more than just a bunch of brain cells.

03:15:10.660 Well, no, I think we have souls as well.

03:15:12.420 Along with the consciousness.

03:15:13.220 When does the soul enter the being?

03:15:14.520 When you are created.

03:15:15.700 Got it.

03:15:16.040 So is it, I would say so.

03:15:16.860 No, so I mean, you're indifferent towards allowing a soul to be dismissed without.

03:15:22.400 Because they'll move on.

03:15:23.420 Because I fully believe a soul will move on to another being.

03:15:25.780 Got it.

03:15:26.100 That's interesting.

03:15:26.920 So what was wrong with Auschwitz?

03:15:29.720 I mean, that was just horrible.

03:15:31.220 Why?

03:15:31.360 That's an insane question.

03:15:32.680 So the Jewish souls were going to another place.

03:15:34.280 What's wrong with it?

03:15:34.540 No, no, no.

03:15:35.280 Because they were being tortured.

03:15:37.380 Well, no, let's say the death was quick.

03:15:38.900 No, no, it wasn't though.

03:15:40.160 Let's not play stupid here.

03:15:41.360 Okay, let's just, well, a lot of deaths were incidents to execution.

03:15:44.860 If, if the death was.

03:15:45.700 No, they were starved.

03:15:47.480 Well, some were, but let me just, let me rephrase it then.

03:15:49.600 Some.

03:15:49.960 Some, well, that's an insane thing to say.

03:15:52.740 Some.

03:15:53.280 Well, yes, some Jews were immediately killed when they got off of the rail cars.

03:15:56.560 No, they were tortured.

03:15:57.580 They were, they were tearing away from their families.

03:15:59.240 Let me ask you a different question now.

03:16:00.860 If, if the death was seamless and without pain and immediate.

03:16:04.360 Okay.

03:16:04.800 Is that okay?

03:16:05.520 Can you just pull away from the Auschwitz argument?

03:16:07.280 Because that is insane to compare that to.

03:16:09.360 Well, no, you just, you just said that the soul goes to another place and that's fine.

03:16:12.080 Yes, but it's not about the soul.

03:16:13.560 It's also about the living being.

03:16:14.620 Oh, so it's about the form of death.

03:16:16.340 No, it's about the living being what they experienced, but I don't fully believe that

03:16:20.580 fetuses experiencing a living life until they have consciousness and they, I don't believe

03:16:24.900 that they do until what, 22 weeks.

03:16:26.900 When you have a 14 week abortion at Planned Parenthood in Southern California, they offer

03:16:31.260 for an additional fee pain medication for the fetus.

03:16:33.660 I'm, I'm, I'm.

03:16:34.660 So they're, the data assumes, nobody can ask them, but the data assumes that at 14

03:16:40.220 weeks, which is legal, California is 20 weeks, right?

03:16:42.520 At 14, the data shows that the fetus can feel pain and struggle.

03:16:45.440 So they offer for an additional fee, you can either get pain medication for your fetus

03:16:49.380 as you abort it, or you can get a pizza.

03:16:50.600 Okay, so then, so.

03:16:51.420 That's interesting.

03:16:52.480 It's pizza?

03:16:53.520 It's about 40 bucks extra to get pain medication for your fetus.

03:16:55.940 But women also have to, what, get an IUD with no pain medication.

03:16:58.980 Sure, terrible too.

03:16:59.800 The medical industry derived towards women is not fair.

03:17:03.980 If there were less abortions in America, would that be a good thing?

03:17:07.380 Yes.

03:17:07.760 Of course, the question is how we get there.

03:17:09.480 That's a, that's a good question.

03:17:10.340 How do we get there?

03:17:11.160 Birth control.

03:17:12.100 Education.

03:17:12.940 Yes.

03:17:13.060 So the more birth control that has happened.

03:17:14.660 And education.

03:17:15.240 And education.

03:17:15.460 The more birth control we've had in the West, the more abortions we have, because people

03:17:18.120 have, have more.

03:17:19.680 People need to be implemented like, uh, self-control.

03:17:22.020 What, how about this radical idea?

03:17:23.320 What if people waited to have sex when they got married?

03:17:26.720 That will never happen.

03:17:27.800 Why?

03:17:28.380 Because people want to fuck.

03:17:29.800 I'm being so.

03:17:33.060 I did it.

03:17:33.280 Yeah, I waited for marriage.

03:17:34.220 I mean, it was amazing.

03:17:35.440 I'm, I'm, that's amazing for you, but you are not.

03:17:38.340 What about the people who get married?

03:17:39.260 I know it's not easy, but, but that's a good question.

03:17:42.340 Let me get to this though.

03:17:43.280 Do those of you that haven't, I'm guessing you've all haven't waited until you got married.

03:17:46.480 Do you wish you did?

03:17:47.800 No.

03:17:49.060 No?

03:17:49.600 No.

03:17:50.540 Do any of you wish you?

03:17:51.760 So in the ideal, if I could paint a world for you that you only shared your sexual experience

03:17:57.520 with one person that was your soulmate, that's not interesting to you?

03:18:00.280 No.

03:18:00.520 Oh, that's cool.

03:18:01.440 But that's an ideal world.

03:18:01.660 Wait, you guys don't regret any of the men you've slept with?

03:18:04.300 I, I, I don't believe in soulmates.

03:18:05.900 I don't regret a man that I've slept with, but.

03:18:06.780 You don't believe in soulmates?

03:18:07.820 Not necessarily.

03:18:08.180 How about best friend?

03:18:10.020 No.

03:18:10.580 You don't believe in best friends?

03:18:11.500 I've had a lot of best friends in my life.

03:18:13.120 Perfect match.

03:18:14.160 No.

03:18:14.460 I don't think that exists either.

03:18:15.820 You meet so many people throughout your lifetime.

03:18:16.020 You guys are so jaded.

03:18:17.560 I do think that sex is better when you're in love.

03:18:19.480 You meet so many people throughout your lifetime.

03:18:20.080 So jaded.

03:18:20.560 At least we're consistent.

03:18:21.700 No, you're very consistent.

03:18:22.760 You can have multiple soulmates.

03:18:25.060 Multiple soulmates.

03:18:25.860 I was saying, like, with as big as the world is, you're not going to necessarily find exactly

03:18:31.280 one person.

03:18:32.340 Because you're going to grow throughout your life.

03:18:33.880 We're changing all the time.

03:18:34.960 And sometimes people don't grow with you.

03:18:37.020 But if that person were to grow with you, then that's.

03:18:39.460 So then, if it's not a soulmate, I mean this not facetiously, then what is the purpose

03:18:43.560 of marriage?

03:18:44.620 I don't agree.

03:18:45.540 I wouldn't do a legal marriage.

03:18:47.560 To come into a union.

03:18:48.900 Is marriage even a thing that we should care about?

03:18:51.080 If you got divorced, I don't wish that, but if you got divorced in 10 years, what do you

03:18:57.480 think of that?

03:18:57.960 I mean, I don't think that will happen.

03:19:00.440 It's not even a hypothetical I want to entertain.

03:19:03.000 Charlie, do you think secular people should get married?

03:19:05.340 I think everyone should get married.

03:19:06.340 I think it makes you a better person.

03:19:08.460 What I find interesting, though, is that you've said it best.

03:19:11.680 If you have as much sex as you want before, and marriage really doesn't mean much, does

03:19:15.700 it?

03:19:15.940 No.

03:19:16.260 Do you think America was a better country when people waited to have sex when they got married?

03:19:20.900 You think everyone did that in America?

03:19:22.780 No, it was the vast majority of women in the 50s and 60s would not have premarital sex.

03:19:27.180 I don't think we have the technology to prove that, though.

03:19:30.260 We don't have the data that we would have now.

03:19:31.500 I think a lot of women are still having sex outside of marriage.

03:19:33.740 First of all, talk to your grandparents' generation.

03:19:36.840 We have studies.

03:19:37.460 We have surveys.

03:19:37.940 We know this, by the way, because birth control wasn't that widespread.

03:19:40.860 Yeah, but you can still have sex without getting pregnant.

03:19:43.800 Right, but we know...

03:19:45.020 There's times a month with ovulation.

03:19:46.740 Hold on a second.

03:19:48.320 You do not think that people are having more premarital sex today than they were 60 years

03:19:52.460 ago?

03:19:52.840 I'm sure they are.

03:19:53.380 No, they definitely are.

03:19:53.720 They are.

03:19:54.040 Okay, all right.

03:19:54.980 But that doesn't mean they weren't at all before.

03:19:57.720 So I'm asking, do you think that's a good thing or a bad thing, that people are having

03:20:02.020 more premarital sex?

03:20:02.900 I personally don't like it.

03:20:04.460 I don't like hookup culture at all.

03:20:05.740 You don't like hookup culture, but you're not regretting sleeping with a bunch of guys

03:20:10.440 before a soulmate.

03:20:11.500 Help me understand.

03:20:12.520 I, I, okay, hold on.

03:20:14.700 A bunch of guys is crazy.

03:20:16.120 Hold on.

03:20:16.480 And you don't like hookup culture, but you also do OnlyFans, so help me understand all

03:20:19.340 this.

03:20:19.760 Okay, so my body count is six, and two of those I was in a relationship with.

03:20:25.220 The third one I thought I was going to be in a relationship with, and the three before

03:20:29.220 that, all of my friends were hooking up with guys, so I thought like, oh, that's what

03:20:32.420 they need to do, because they're all hooking up, so this is the normal thing.

03:20:35.680 I should be hooking up.

03:20:36.800 And I realized very quickly, I don't like hooking up with random men.

03:20:41.380 I don't like that.

03:20:41.700 Do any of you think that women are being harmed by hookup culture?

03:20:44.920 Yes.

03:20:45.320 I agree.

03:20:46.000 So you all agree with that, but then you say that, no, you don't think men are being,

03:20:49.980 you don't think women are being harmed by hookup culture?

03:20:51.500 No.

03:20:52.120 Okay.

03:20:52.460 Wait, what?

03:20:53.240 We'll get that in a second.

03:20:54.300 However, so then, why don't all of you make a commitment that you're going to save yourself

03:20:58.680 for marriage?

03:20:59.300 You could do that.

03:21:00.140 Society might not have to.

03:21:01.260 Because I'm already past the point.

03:21:03.040 Well, you can always become a new version of yourself.

03:21:07.080 What's done is done, but you could say, I'm now going to save myself from this point forward.

03:21:11.200 I don't want to be a new version.

03:21:12.220 I want to be me, and they accept me for me.

03:21:13.780 What is me?

03:21:14.320 What is that?

03:21:15.120 Whatever I've done in the past and up to this point.

03:21:17.560 So there's no improvement?

03:21:18.840 I don't need to improve, necessarily.

03:21:21.460 You don't need to improve.

03:21:22.960 Hold on.

03:21:23.620 It's that I don't need to hide what I've done.

03:21:25.560 No, I'm not saying hide, but for example, bad example, if one is an alcoholic and they

03:21:29.920 go through AA, and no, it's okay, and then you become a new version of yourself.

03:21:34.260 That's growth, right?

03:21:35.260 Yeah, that's growth, but they should still know what I've done.

03:21:37.760 Hey, in the past.

03:21:38.840 They know it, but I'm not saying you hide it.

03:21:41.100 I'm asking the question, what is the argument against any of you young ladies saying, you know

03:21:44.920 what?

03:21:45.600 I'm no longer going to have premarital sex.

03:21:47.380 I'm going to wait till marriage.

03:21:48.320 Hookup culture is destructive.

03:21:49.320 I'm going to find a man who values with me.

03:21:51.700 He's never been with another partner, and I'm going to start a new chapter.

03:21:54.060 What is the argument against that?

03:21:56.080 Because then you're going to come on this podcast, and we're going to have a two-hour

03:21:59.220 long conversation about how if everybody waited in the drive-thru, and they paid $100, why

03:22:04.000 has a man got to pay $2?

03:22:05.900 You're going to...

03:22:06.680 I don't understand.

03:22:07.380 It's a conversation they have on here about everybody being reborn.

03:22:10.420 They're like, oh, so if you wait now, everyone's already done it.

03:22:13.820 It's not fair to the next man.

03:22:15.820 They have this conversation every podcast.

03:22:17.120 I'm not tracking your argument.

03:22:18.280 No, it's not really an argument necessarily, so...

03:22:20.120 She's just giving an example about the fact that if I don't...

03:22:23.780 All these people are going to participate in this anyways, so why...

03:22:28.480 Oh, I got it.

03:22:28.940 Okay, but...

03:22:29.180 You're kind of going to get shit on it anyways, is what I'm saying.

03:22:31.640 You're going to get treated like garbage whether you do it or not.

03:22:33.480 So you think you'll be treated like garbage if you don't have premarital sex?

03:22:36.920 Oh, easily.

03:22:38.240 Easily.

03:22:39.000 Well, I just think maybe potentially the next guy wouldn't want to wait, because they might

03:22:42.440 be like, oh, but everyone else didn't have to wait.

03:22:44.120 Do you think that you have any leverage over the men in your relationships?

03:22:49.520 I probably hope so, yeah.

03:22:50.400 What do men want more than anything else?

03:22:52.480 Probably sex.

03:22:53.200 Why don't you stop giving it to them?

03:22:55.600 Nobody's giving it to anyone.

03:22:56.820 What are you talking about?

03:22:57.480 Well, you said in your relationships you guys had premarital sex, so...

03:22:59.880 But you could also not participate in hookup culture and also decide to not wait until

03:23:05.380 marriage.

03:23:05.920 Those things don't have to be...

03:23:07.040 You're right.

03:23:07.680 They're not synonymous, but then if you aren't waiting until marriage, then you're basically

03:23:11.160 saying marriage means nothing.

03:23:12.500 That's effectively what you're saying.

03:23:13.320 Not necessarily, because marriage isn't about sex.

03:23:15.720 What is marriage about?

03:23:16.540 Marriage is not about sex.

03:23:17.420 It's more than sex.

03:23:18.220 You're right.

03:23:18.380 But what is marriage about?

03:23:19.820 It's a bond between two people.

03:23:21.280 It's the person that you choose to have a family with.

03:23:22.980 I agree.

03:23:23.500 But can't you have a bond without marriage?

03:23:25.500 If you meet someone who you don't want to have a family with, but you're actually in

03:23:29.760 love or whatever, and you want to have sex, you should be able to.

03:23:32.640 And that's not hookup culture.

03:23:33.420 No, of course you should be able to.

03:23:34.760 I'm not saying what you...

03:23:35.420 Exactly.

03:23:35.440 I'm arguing what one ought to do, not what able to do.

03:23:38.400 Able and ought are two different words.

03:23:40.020 Able, fine.

03:23:40.560 You have the freedom to do it.

03:23:41.120 Of course, yeah.

03:23:41.460 I'm saying in the ideal, what is the argument against the women of America saying, men,

03:23:46.760 you have to marry me to be able to sleep with me?

03:23:48.400 But also, why...

03:23:49.440 You should ask your co-host right here, because he doesn't want to get married.

03:23:55.520 Yeah, I don't want to get married.

03:23:57.280 You know, look, maybe...

03:23:58.660 I might have...

03:23:59.120 I'm a super trad guy, so excuse my question.

03:24:02.060 Look, me and Charlie aren't going to agree on everything.

03:24:04.500 Yes.

03:24:05.220 But, so what...

03:24:08.040 I do think that sexual compatibility is important in a marriage.

03:24:11.260 Well, I guess...

03:24:12.040 Because that was one of the biggest pieces of tension with my ex-husband is, I mean, we

03:24:17.940 had a sexless marriage.

03:24:19.320 Yeah, that's a problem.

03:24:21.240 Yeah, I guess...

03:24:22.040 I mean, my new husband and I, I mean, we waited a while.

03:24:25.240 And you said that he was more of a femboy, right?

03:24:27.820 The first one?

03:24:29.020 Or like more feminine, right?

03:24:30.320 Femboy, yeah, hero.

03:24:31.460 He wasn't necessarily...

03:24:32.340 Sorry.

03:24:32.580 I mean, he was a big, tall Mexican, but he just...

03:24:35.900 I made a lot more than he did.

03:24:37.660 He really wasn't a provider.

03:24:38.220 Can I ask, do you think that men should wait until marriage or just women?

03:24:42.020 Absolutely.

03:24:42.360 Okay, because I agree with that then.

03:24:43.860 If women have to wait, men have to wait as well.

03:24:45.600 I think that America...

03:24:46.420 There's a lot of problems with America.

03:24:47.420 One of the problems has been that sex, in its ideal, is weighted in a holy setting between

03:24:53.640 a male and female that share that experience only with their life partner.

03:24:59.420 Now, there's exceptions, there's mistakes, but if we just throw it all out the window

03:25:03.420 and say men won't like me and hookup culture, I think there's a lot of damage and a lot

03:25:07.340 of ramifications for that.

03:25:08.980 And again, the point being is this, is I believe firmly young ladies are damaged mentally

03:25:15.720 by having too many sexual partners.

03:25:17.300 I think men are too, though.

03:25:18.860 I think men are too.

03:25:19.940 I think men are too.

03:25:20.920 Hookup culture hurts women far more than it hurts men.

03:25:23.680 Oh, I agree.

03:25:24.020 It hurts women more, but I think men are like...

03:25:26.060 I don't think men realize how damaging it is as well to them.

03:25:30.000 Maybe.

03:25:30.660 Of course, there's damage to all people, but men are wired differently where many sexual

03:25:35.900 partners for men does not hurt men nearly as much as many sexual partners for women

03:25:39.980 because women are far more relational driven and far more bond driven.

03:25:44.840 So they look at sex as a culmination of a bond.

03:25:47.300 Where men look at it as sex, as physical, purely, not always with those other elements.

03:25:53.140 Unless there is a component of we're going to try to develop a long lasting bond here.

03:25:59.660 And the question is...

03:26:00.260 So do you think that men have driven hookup culture then because they don't care about

03:26:04.120 it as much?

03:26:04.600 I think that it's both.

03:26:05.620 I think women are driving it too.

03:26:06.980 I think it's both.

03:26:07.520 But you're saying that when women have sex, they need to have that bond and they're more

03:26:12.960 concerned with...

03:26:13.080 That's how they're wired.

03:26:13.740 So women are wired to want to have a bond when they're having sex with someone.

03:26:17.800 That's correct.

03:26:18.240 But men don't care.

03:26:19.380 So would you not think that men are driving hookup culture then?

03:26:23.220 No, I think both sides are.

03:26:24.300 I mean, I think that men are driving...

03:26:26.300 Because women are making themselves available.

03:26:28.400 That's the point.

03:26:29.060 Because they think it's going to be a longer bond.

03:26:31.160 Yeah.

03:26:31.460 Yeah.

03:26:31.680 That's kind of...

03:26:32.520 No, of course.

03:26:33.500 And women should know male nature before they start sleeping around with men.

03:26:36.820 Hold on.

03:26:37.040 So is it a woman's fault or is it a man's fault?

03:26:39.840 It's both.

03:26:40.100 It's both.

03:26:40.680 If every woman today that was marketable, and all of you guys are on the market, correct?

03:26:45.640 Looking for life partners?

03:26:46.800 I've never been on the market.

03:26:48.020 Okay.

03:26:48.260 Okay.

03:26:48.660 Now she's laughing.

03:26:49.380 But if every one of you...

03:26:50.380 It's simple supply and demand.

03:26:51.760 If you said, we're off limits until the ring is there and the priest says the final vows,

03:26:56.220 how would men react, hypothetically?

03:26:59.980 They would hop on it.

03:27:01.040 That would decrease half the dating pool, probably, at least.

03:27:03.340 I totally disagree, because we know what that world looks like.

03:27:05.560 We used to have it 50 or 60 years ago.

03:27:07.580 You know what?

03:27:07.880 Men grow up quicker.

03:27:09.280 They stop being man, child, and infants.

03:27:12.540 So you're one of the ones who also probably argues against...

03:27:16.820 There's sexual chemistry and stuff like that.

03:27:18.760 You probably argue, no, that's not real.

03:27:20.640 No, I think sexual chemistry is a real thing, but it's a culmination of different types of love

03:27:25.740 that are not just erotic.

03:27:27.200 There are deeper types of love that transcend the physical.

03:27:30.660 Physical is part of it.

03:27:31.620 Sexual compatibility, as you say, is a huge part of the relationship.

03:27:34.220 But all of you know this.

03:27:35.640 You could have a partner where you had great sex and you have nothing in common.

03:27:39.920 That's not a relationship.

03:27:41.160 That's an orgasm and a one-night stand or whatever.

03:27:44.520 That's a situationship.

03:27:45.560 Yeah, okay.

03:27:46.220 It's fine.

03:27:46.720 A situationship.

03:27:47.540 That's not something to build a life around.

03:27:50.100 Yeah.

03:27:50.440 Yeah, I agree.

03:27:51.740 Okay.

03:27:52.020 So, no, we're not disagreeing.

03:27:53.460 I just, without legislation or big decrees, I know this, that men have very primal, undeveloped,

03:28:03.520 immature sexual natures, and that is not going to change.

03:28:06.100 So, should women be punished for men taking advantage of women for that?

03:28:09.380 No, I'm not saying, I'm not punishing.

03:28:10.200 I'm not talking about anything.

03:28:10.820 I'm talking about cultural stuff, not legislation.

03:28:12.360 No, I'm asking about hookup culture again.

03:28:13.980 But if women want a man that they are worthy of, and many of you are not getting men you

03:28:20.620 are worthy of, then you need to then stop giving the one thing that men want the most.

03:28:26.440 And that is unlimited amounts of sex all the time, bodies on the internet, because men

03:28:30.660 will only view you as a visual stimulation and they'll move on.

03:28:34.660 And if you disagree, you do not understand male nature.

03:28:36.760 I, but the thing is, is men will treat you like that and talk to you like that, whether

03:28:41.700 you want to do it or not, because these two don't do OF, I do OF.

03:28:45.500 Their Twitch chats are just as degenerate as mine, because people come in there and say

03:28:48.960 the most horrible things.

03:28:49.800 You're all very talented.

03:28:50.740 You're smart.

03:28:51.140 You guys shouldn't be doing any of that.

03:28:52.500 You shouldn't.

03:28:52.920 Stop doing that.

03:28:53.200 Twitch?

03:28:53.780 What do you mean?

03:28:54.340 We play video games.

03:28:55.120 I'm saying this as someone who, like, cares about humanity.

03:28:57.240 Stop selling your body on the internet.

03:28:58.480 You're a lot smarter than that.

03:28:59.000 We're playing video games.

03:29:00.160 Yeah, we play, like, World of Warcraft online.

03:29:01.760 You said you're doing OnlyFans, yes?

03:29:03.720 I do.

03:29:04.140 They don't.

03:29:04.740 And they get just as horrible comments as I do.

03:29:07.100 No, that's what I'm saying.

03:29:07.840 That's my argument.

03:29:08.240 Okay, but no, you're making my argument.

03:29:09.520 Men's sexual nature is very degenerative.

03:29:12.140 And I'm saying that-

03:29:13.140 How do you lift it up?

03:29:14.600 You lift it up by saying you don't get what you want the most until you commit.

03:29:19.240 But the thing is, is, hold on.

03:29:21.280 So hold on.

03:29:21.700 So you are then leading, you need to lead men towards a better future.

03:29:25.580 Because I'm not doing anything more crazy than they are.

03:29:29.500 Isn't that fair?

03:29:30.260 I'm not doing anything more crazy than they are.

03:29:32.480 I'm not trying to ridicule you guys.

03:29:33.880 No, I don't care.

03:29:34.940 I don't care.

03:29:35.400 You can say whatever you want, but I'm saying they're getting the same degenerate comments

03:29:39.160 that I am on Twitch streams.

03:29:40.620 Because you're now seeing a window into men's sexual nature.

03:29:43.200 And that's what I'm saying.

03:29:44.240 So if you're-

03:29:44.300 But how then do you lift it up?

03:29:45.520 Do you lift it up by giving more sex and more bodies and more pictures?

03:29:48.640 But they're always going to treat us this way.

03:29:49.560 That's interesting.

03:29:50.720 They're always going to treat us this way.

03:29:51.500 No, no, no, that's not true.

03:29:52.160 Yes, they will.

03:29:52.620 Let me tell you.

03:29:53.020 Yes, they will.

03:29:53.820 Men can grow up, but they need a goal.

03:29:56.740 No, this is very-

03:29:57.580 If you don't believe that, then you basically are dismissing all of humanity.

03:30:01.200 It's not that I can't believe that men will go up.

03:30:02.600 Hear me out.

03:30:03.080 It's not-

03:30:03.460 Men love being useful.

03:30:04.820 This is fine.

03:30:05.340 Men want a purpose.

03:30:06.780 They want to go on an adventure.

03:30:08.200 And so if you say, you can be with me, but here's the rules of the road.

03:30:12.520 Okay, but I'm on the internet, and there's how many?

03:30:15.020 Thousands of hundreds of millions of men on the internet?

03:30:17.680 I can't fix all of them.

03:30:18.900 I'm not asking you to fix all of them.

03:30:20.360 You want to change the world?

03:30:21.280 Start with changing you.

03:30:23.020 It doesn't matter.

03:30:24.120 They're not even doing OF, and they're still getting treated like garbage.

03:30:26.620 Hold on.

03:30:26.920 So again, if you believe that what you do doesn't matter, then you're a nihilist, and just do

03:30:31.940 whatever you want.

03:30:32.320 It's not even about me doing OF.

03:30:33.980 It's about the way that men treat you when you're a woman.

03:30:36.220 So this is the point, though, is that how do you get treated better by men?

03:30:42.040 One sec.

03:30:42.760 Let me ask you a question.

03:30:43.460 Do you think you get treated by men better by showing more skin or less skin?

03:30:47.000 Obviously, if you show less skin.

03:30:48.420 Okay, so you agree.

03:30:49.540 But hold on, because even when you show less skin, there's women in full-blown, covered-up

03:30:54.180 burqas, and they still get sexualized.

03:30:55.920 They still get acid thrown on them.

03:30:58.000 They still get onwarded in the middle of the street.

03:31:00.460 Like, what are you talking about?

03:31:01.920 Okay, I don't agree with that at all.

03:31:04.640 That's crazy.

03:31:05.180 So men's sexual nature on the internet, you are seeing a window into the depraved, because

03:31:10.380 there's no guardrails, and there's no guidelines.

03:31:12.700 So how do you, one second, how do you lift up that primal, carnal sexual nature towards

03:31:17.280 something that is no longer...

03:31:19.020 Why is that my responsibility, to lift up their...

03:31:21.060 Hold on.

03:31:21.740 Well, it's not your responsibility.

03:31:24.100 It's humanity's responsibility.

03:31:25.460 But I would imagine you want a life partner at some point, yes?

03:31:27.880 No?

03:31:28.300 I'll figure it out when they come to me.

03:31:29.820 I'm not going to...

03:31:30.400 Every man that is in the direction...

03:31:31.960 Let me tell you, doing OnlyFans, you're not going to find a life partner.

03:31:34.000 That's totally fine.

03:31:35.000 I don't care.

03:31:35.600 Yes, she is, though.

03:31:36.480 Come on.

03:31:36.920 No, no, that's your point.

03:31:37.680 There is so many people who want to marry her.

03:31:40.840 If you think that you can find a virtuous, ethical man who tells the truth by showing

03:31:45.880 a lot of skin online, you do not understand male sexual nature.

03:31:48.640 You do not.

03:31:49.780 I don't profess to know female sexual nature.

03:31:52.380 So we talked about this a little bit.

03:31:53.440 Men want what they cannot see and they cannot have.

03:31:55.920 Men want rarity, scarcity, and mystery.

03:31:58.100 They do not want abundance and cleavage and skin.

03:32:00.480 So we get the same for men.

03:32:01.640 Can you guys stop sledding it up, please?

03:32:03.220 I'm not saying...

03:32:04.200 I am asking...

03:32:05.520 I mean, men have plenty of...

03:32:06.980 What have I just said?

03:32:07.780 I said men's sexual nature is degenerative.

03:32:09.520 I couldn't be more cruel on males' primal, carnal instincts.

03:32:13.540 The question is, how do you lift us up to something better?

03:32:16.140 Yes.

03:32:16.380 So we talked about this before.

03:32:18.520 What's the difference between...

03:32:19.740 So she does only lingerie pictures, right?

03:32:22.360 So what's the difference between her and Gigi Hadid or any Victoria's Secret model, right?

03:32:26.820 Well, there's not...

03:32:28.020 I mean, is Gigi Hadid in a really great relationship and doing great?

03:32:31.100 I mean, I believe one of them has clinical depression.

03:32:33.140 She's dating Bradley Cooper, I think.

03:32:34.800 Again, most celebrity relationships last, like, what, six or seven years?

03:32:38.080 Maybe?

03:32:39.560 Well, so your point is that they, what, they divorce more often?

03:32:43.460 Well, I mean, I'm asking...

03:32:44.560 Are you saying she...

03:32:45.940 Again, if you're looking for celebrities for life partner roadmaps, you're looking at the wrong people, okay?

03:32:50.440 I mean, I'm asking...

03:32:51.800 So you're fine with comparing that and being like, oh, yeah, they're both not...

03:32:55.480 They can't find high-value men or whatever your claim is.

03:32:58.160 I mean, I am very short on their long-term prospects of being a couple for the next 30 years.

03:33:02.700 I mean, if that's their question.

03:33:03.880 But if you...

03:33:05.020 You do not have to create a new roadmap.

03:33:07.020 When women were more modest in their presentations, when women were more humble in their, in their...

03:33:13.500 Was that necessarily a woman being humble or was that also the laws of the day and age where they couldn't...

03:33:17.780 No, in the 1950s, the laws were fine.

03:33:19.840 I mean...

03:33:20.060 You couldn't get a divorce because you never had a job.

03:33:22.660 You couldn't get out of the relationship.

03:33:24.520 What are you talking about?

03:33:25.440 Well, I mean, no-fault divorce ended in the 60s or 70s.

03:33:27.540 You could still get a divorce.

03:33:28.680 It just was harder.

03:33:29.160 Yeah, but you had no job.

03:33:30.380 You had no prospects.

03:33:31.260 You had nothing.

03:33:31.780 You had children to take care of.

03:33:32.140 That's a separate issue.

03:33:32.940 You're getting too far off track.

03:33:34.540 I just...

03:33:34.880 Oops.

03:33:35.040 I'm asking a theoretical question.

03:33:38.200 If more women than not made a commitment that we want a life partner, I think the reason

03:33:43.660 why you all and women are willing to engage in hookup culture, even though you know it's

03:33:47.600 destructive...

03:33:48.520 Hold on a second.

03:33:49.060 Even though you know it's bad for you, is because deep down women tend to be more insecure

03:33:53.280 than men.

03:33:53.860 And you think that you can get praise from men by doing this, and it gives you temporary

03:33:57.920 security, and you're willing to then sacrifice long-term viability of finding a life partner

03:34:03.900 for that temporary security.

03:34:05.540 You also just put that on me?

03:34:06.840 I don't engage in hookup culture at all.

03:34:08.880 Okay, that's fine.

03:34:09.880 I'm just saying more broadly, though...

03:34:11.640 Stop the cap!

03:34:12.740 More broadly, if women were willing to actually say that I am not going to present myself online,

03:34:19.000 I'm not going to give myself...

03:34:20.040 You would actually have more male suitors, not less.

03:34:23.800 I'm not worried about that.

03:34:25.680 I'm not worried about more or less male suitors.

03:34:27.840 How about good ones?

03:34:28.880 Great ones?

03:34:29.600 Ones that you feel as if this is the best man I've ever met?

03:34:32.220 I'll get there when I need to get there.

03:34:33.120 Great men are hard to find.

03:34:36.280 They are.

03:34:36.760 I could say this.

03:34:37.460 And I'll get there when I need to get there.

03:34:38.100 Being around a lot of them.

03:34:39.100 Okay.

03:34:39.600 And I'll get there when I need to get there.

03:34:40.640 All right.

03:34:40.960 So let me ask you, what is more important in your life, good career or great marriage

03:34:44.280 and family?

03:34:45.000 I want my bills paid, so whatever takes the cake.

03:34:48.320 Well, a good husband can pay the bills, too.

03:34:50.280 Yeah.

03:34:50.780 And I'm not necessarily looking for a good husband right now, because I'm not looking around.

03:34:55.200 Okay.

03:34:57.480 Any other thoughts on that?

03:34:59.020 I was just...

03:34:59.760 Sorry, I kind of dominated there.

03:35:01.160 If you want, keep going.

03:35:02.120 I guess I am pretty jaded on this conversation.

03:35:04.300 I didn't get to do the introductions, but I do OnlyFans management.

03:35:07.660 And I think, so I read a lot of messages.

03:35:10.580 I'm not on the site myself, but I read a lot of messages.

03:35:13.780 And it kind of sucks because you see so many messages coming in daily that are like, I wish

03:35:18.760 I wasn't with my ugly wife right now.

03:35:20.600 You're so much hotter.

03:35:21.360 So for me, as someone who's single and in their 20s, it's hard to be like, yeah, I'm

03:35:25.860 going to be a really perfect woman for these kind of men.

03:35:29.260 Does that make sense?

03:35:30.240 I'm going to be honest.

03:35:30.300 I even got that being on your podcast.

03:35:32.260 I even got a message on my OnlyFans from your podcast being like, my girlfriend is so

03:35:36.860 disgusting.

03:35:37.400 I don't like her.

03:35:38.160 I subbed your OnlyFans because you're so much better than her.

03:35:40.660 It's really hard to see both these conversations.

03:35:42.840 No, that's okay.

03:35:43.640 But you're actually proving my point is you're seeing a window into the depraved male sexual

03:35:48.900 nature.

03:35:49.320 So then you have a choice.

03:35:50.340 You can say, forget all men and become a lesbian and like, just forget it.

03:35:53.440 Right?

03:35:53.980 I don't do that.

03:35:54.480 I'm not saying you want to do that.

03:35:55.340 Right?

03:35:55.840 Or you could be like, I actually think that men have a proper role in society.

03:36:00.280 Most men today are grown infants and women have a, you don't agree with that?

03:36:05.460 Well, no, I agree that they're grown infants, but it's not my job to fix you.

03:36:08.920 I'm not saying it's your job to fix you.

03:36:10.220 It's your, it's, you have a moral obligation not to make it worse.

03:36:13.280 Well, how am I making it worse?

03:36:15.300 Because I have an OnlyFans?

03:36:16.680 Yeah, I'd say that you're participating in that.

03:36:18.520 Okay, but, okay, so what exactly have you...

03:36:20.660 All your, it's all your fault.

03:36:22.200 No, I'm not saying it's all your fault, but if you...

03:36:23.400 It's a lot, Julie.

03:36:24.040 But I'm saying this as, as, as, uh, agreeably as I can.

03:36:28.180 If, if you are producing sexually explicit content online, you are increasing the supply.

03:36:33.300 And so I'm...

03:36:34.300 Not decreasing the supply.

03:36:35.200 So even if I didn't have an OnlyFans...

03:36:36.580 Even though you're a small part of it, I get it.

03:36:38.040 Okay.

03:36:38.300 Even if I didn't have an OnlyFans, the comments that I've gotten on all of my social media,

03:36:43.320 without it, have been even more degrading than the comments I've gotten on my OnlyFans.

03:36:46.800 Got it.

03:36:47.080 So, but, but you're blaming the comments for your action, not, not taking responsibility

03:36:51.040 for your action.

03:36:51.900 No, no.

03:36:52.320 Because even if I post a selfie of just my face, it would be like, I want to cum all over

03:36:56.120 that.

03:36:56.300 I'm like, I'm eating a cookie.

03:36:58.140 Okay, but, but again, you're, you're seeing, you're seeing a window into the depraved sexual

03:37:03.100 nature.

03:37:04.240 And...

03:37:04.440 So how is that my issue?

03:37:05.420 Fix it yourself, you weirdo?

03:37:06.840 Okay, but you're right.

03:37:08.840 That, that could be an attitude.

03:37:09.900 And that has been the attitude the last 30 years.

03:37:12.000 Where has it gotten us?

03:37:13.320 Less people married, less people in happy relationships.

03:37:16.320 So is it...

03:37:16.680 So both sides have work to do.

03:37:17.580 If you were a panel of men, I'd be talking completely different.

03:37:18.820 Are you saying it's a woman's job to fix men from being depraved?

03:37:23.660 Or what are you saying here?

03:37:24.540 I have an entire chapter of this book about how we should ban pornography.

03:37:26.740 Can you sign that for me later?

03:37:27.520 I'll buy it.

03:37:27.720 You're getting close to earning it.

03:37:29.420 I earned it.

03:37:30.240 I earned it.

03:37:30.980 So, but no, I have an entire chapter of this book on how men need to stop watching pornography

03:37:34.080 and stop being...

03:37:34.620 No, I agree.

03:37:35.120 I don't watch pornography at all.

03:37:36.720 I don't think anyone should.

03:37:37.300 Both sides have growth to do.

03:37:39.260 I don't think anyone should.

03:37:39.440 But we're here at a female-driven panel.

03:37:41.880 So I'm trying to...

03:37:42.560 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

03:37:43.040 No.

03:37:43.220 You know.

03:37:43.940 Hold on.

03:37:44.280 Let me throw a little hand.

03:37:45.180 Anyway, I see.

03:37:45.980 Yes.

03:37:46.200 And then I'm way over time, but yeah.

03:37:47.500 You want to ban pornography?

03:37:48.940 Yes.

03:37:49.380 I agree.

03:37:50.080 I totally agree.

03:37:50.720 You agree?

03:37:51.380 I agree.

03:37:51.800 So you're an OnlyFans, so help me reconcile that.

03:37:53.500 Yeah, but I don't do pornography.

03:37:54.560 Is it lingerie, you said?

03:37:55.660 Yeah.

03:37:56.080 It's borderline, but yeah.

03:37:57.360 Yeah, borderline, but it's a Victoria's Secret model.

03:37:59.140 Fair enough.

03:37:59.660 Yeah, okay.

03:38:00.220 You do OnlyFans.

03:38:01.060 Are you in favor...

03:38:02.200 Do you object to Charlie's position on banning porn?

03:38:05.640 Yeah.

03:38:06.200 Which would correspondingly...

03:38:08.160 You're in favor of it?

03:38:09.120 You earned a book with your stance.

03:38:10.100 Wait, do you mean, like, if I'm against it?

03:38:12.620 Is that KitKat Julie?

03:38:14.080 Sends it.

03:38:14.260 He wants to ban porn, so you'd be banning what you do.

03:38:17.460 Oh, that's nice.

03:38:17.820 I'm so excited.

03:38:19.800 I say, Julie, ban porn.

03:38:21.420 Yes.

03:38:21.900 I'm taking this all the way back.

03:38:23.040 I'm taking this all the way back to Canada.

03:38:25.120 It literally says, Julie, ban porn.

03:38:26.260 Back to Canada.

03:38:27.240 All the way back to Canada.

03:38:28.620 Speaking of Canada, Charlie, do you think we should annex Canada?

03:38:30.340 No.

03:38:30.540 No, I don't want Canada.

03:38:31.480 Oh, okay.

03:38:31.820 Nobody wants Canada.

03:38:32.900 I hate it there, too.

03:38:33.660 Don't worry.

03:38:33.960 Do you have time for just a few more questions?

03:38:35.020 Yeah, I got like five minutes.

03:38:36.620 Five minutes is okay.

03:38:37.180 That was really good, though, guys.

03:38:38.140 But think about it.

03:38:39.040 I'm just saying that you have to then act in the direction of the man you want.

03:38:44.520 And men have to act in the direction of the woman they want.

03:38:47.520 I agree.

03:38:48.200 And at some point, maybe romantically, we can meet halfway.

03:38:52.680 What if it's a man who wants an OnlyFans girl and an OnlyFans girl who wants a man?

03:38:56.420 Then he's a degenerate.

03:38:57.280 I do want to shift gears here a little bit.

03:38:59.700 But, of course, you get what you want, but that's not what one ought to want.

03:39:02.700 Okay?

03:39:03.400 By the way, those watching, afterwards, we do have Andrew Wilson.

03:39:06.660 He's going to do a call in once Charlie has to go.

03:39:09.240 But I do want to ask, going around the table to open something else up to the table, would

03:39:14.200 you date a guy who owned firearms?

03:39:17.080 Yeah.

03:39:18.460 Yep.

03:39:19.240 I think so.

03:39:20.060 Of course.

03:39:20.860 Depends.

03:39:21.700 Yes.

03:39:22.060 AR-15.

03:39:23.340 We had this conversation before.

03:39:24.920 I don't know enough about guns to have an opinion.

03:39:26.820 It's the big, scary, black one.

03:39:28.960 That scares me.

03:39:29.800 So, probably not.

03:39:30.820 All right.

03:39:31.220 Yes.

03:39:31.540 Absolutely.

03:39:32.260 Yes.

03:39:34.160 Yep.

03:39:35.020 Yes.

03:39:36.060 Yes.

03:39:36.500 Oh, man.

03:39:36.860 All right.

03:39:37.240 Okay.

03:39:37.680 Well.

03:39:38.220 Good talk.

03:39:38.540 I got to run.

03:39:39.360 Yes.

03:39:39.500 Absolutely.

03:39:39.660 So, can I just say one thing in closing, though?

03:39:41.000 Go for it.

03:39:42.400 There's a lot of attention towards that men need to be better men, and that's a thing.

03:39:46.660 I think that women are exempt far too often in that conversation, you guys.

03:39:49.200 Women can be better women.

03:39:50.340 There you go.

03:39:51.100 And so, you have to take it as a good sport.

03:39:53.460 I'm so happy.

03:39:54.200 Thank you so much.

03:39:54.360 The most important thing you can do is give your life to Jesus.

03:39:56.820 And to give your life to God.

03:39:58.040 See?

03:39:58.280 She rolls her eyes.

03:40:00.540 Take the book back.

03:40:02.240 Take it back.

03:40:02.840 Read the book.

03:40:03.400 I'm digging into the...

03:40:03.860 Because here's why.

03:40:05.060 I'm going to spread the word.

03:40:05.560 Jesus loves you, and he died for you.

03:40:07.100 I'm sure he loves me, but let me find it out on my own, please.

03:40:10.560 You can find it out on your own.

03:40:11.720 Thank you.

03:40:11.860 One question about the book, if that's cool.

03:40:14.120 In the book, is there a specific chapter about dating?

03:40:17.880 Oh, yeah.

03:40:18.180 No, there's actually a whole thing about life advice for men and women.

03:40:22.100 I'm super excited to read this.

03:40:23.460 It's actually not even funny.

03:40:24.600 You're going to read it?

03:40:25.160 No, I think you'll actually enjoy part of it.

03:40:28.080 Blake, what part of the book is that?

03:40:29.180 I'm trying to find it.

03:40:29.620 I'm going to read the hell out of it.

03:40:30.780 Are you joking?

03:40:31.660 I have to find it.

03:40:32.760 Somebody said there was a second.

03:40:33.380 It's advice for women and advice for men.

03:40:36.300 I don't know.

03:40:37.820 Changing yourself?

03:40:38.880 Yeah.

03:40:39.980 Oh, yeah.

03:40:40.780 It's here.

03:40:41.380 Advice for men and women.

03:40:42.380 Right here.

03:40:42.660 Should we do like a read a paragraph?

03:40:44.480 No.

03:40:44.760 How about this?

03:40:46.980 Popcorn reading ASMR.

03:40:47.940 Date seriously right away with an eye towards marriage and family, which we talked about.

03:40:51.520 If your goal is to put family and children above your career, avoid an educational path

03:40:54.820 that has too much debt.

03:40:56.580 Watch your weight and do your best to maintain your attractiveness.

03:40:59.300 I like weight.

03:41:00.100 Listen to your parents, especially your mom, and don't be afraid to ask her for advice.

03:41:03.520 She was crazy, though.

03:41:05.540 Do you have a dad?

03:41:06.760 Yeah, but he was...

03:41:08.080 Does your dad love you?

03:41:09.080 Yeah, I think so.

03:41:09.900 Okay, then ask him for advice.

03:41:11.200 What else have you got there?

03:41:12.040 Volunteer to help out your Sunday school nursery.

03:41:15.300 You can laugh at that, but it's a great way to see if you like kids or not.

03:41:17.820 It's a good segment.

03:41:18.460 Thank you, Charlie, for joining us.

03:41:19.120 Thanks, guys.

03:41:19.480 Thank you so much.

03:41:20.740 Charlie Kirk is...

03:41:22.000 Wait one sec.

03:41:22.980 Oh, sorry.

03:41:23.360 Hold on.

03:41:23.660 I got to play this.

03:41:24.300 Buy the book, everybody.

03:41:25.440 Guys, get the book.

03:41:26.320 Charlie, I got to play this right before you leave.

03:41:28.520 Wait, wait, wait.

03:41:28.880 Hold on.

03:41:29.460 Wait, stop.

03:41:30.120 Stop.

03:41:30.400 Stop.

03:41:30.640 Stop.

03:41:31.040 Okay.

03:41:31.540 He's a great, decent man.

03:41:33.200 He's a pioneer.

03:41:33.800 He's a pioneer.

03:41:34.520 Thank you for coming, Charlie.

03:41:35.440 Good to have you.

03:41:39.820 Can I have one?

Whatever Podcast - September 20, 2025

Charlie Kirk DESTROYS Whatever Podcast FULL VIDEO #2

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