Whatever Podcast - Crazy Desiree ATTACKS Andrew Wilson & Brian？! FLASHES？! Unhinged RAGE QUIT？! ｜ Whatever Debates #7

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00:01:04.940 Yeah, I'm Desiree Noel.

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00:03:36.260 Well, so with that said, welcome back, Desiree.

00:03:44.100 Back by popular demand.

00:03:45.860 And so you came on the show previously and had quite an interesting exchange.

00:03:57.360 And you had some criticisms of the show.

00:04:02.640 And we always like to hear people's specific criticisms and their viewpoints.

00:04:08.140 So I just wanted to hear out, I guess, what your criticisms were.

00:04:10.700 It's boring.

00:04:14.340 Okay.

00:04:14.860 So can you scoot into the table a little bit and then just get a little closer to the mic?

00:04:18.080 So, okay.

00:04:20.220 So the show is boring.

00:04:21.660 Well, those weren't the criticisms that you outlined previously.

00:04:29.260 So.

00:04:29.700 Well, we live in a particular.

00:04:37.700 Found that your show was very dated on basically opinions and thought processes that I had.

00:04:46.140 I literally thought that it was dead like 20 years ago.

00:04:49.460 And I was very triggered because I came on this show and it felt like I walked through a portal back to like literally age 13 being at like, you know, church indoctrination camp basically.

00:05:06.940 And I've spent so long, I thought, healing myself from that ideology.

00:05:18.120 And I guess I came on this show and I was honestly shocked that there was still pockets of society that were perpetuating the ideologies that I discovered you promoting to very young impressionable minds.

00:05:36.940 So, I guess.

00:05:39.880 What ideologies? 0.83

00:05:42.280 Basically, colonialism, white supremacy, woman hating. 1.00

00:05:50.300 Just basically the mother wound. 0.98

00:05:52.620 I could really feel the mother wound unhealed from you guys being.

00:05:58.140 I could understand that the show was all about basically you unleashing your mother wound onto any female that had the compensatory father wound that would match that.

00:06:14.620 So, a trauma bond essentially.

00:06:16.780 So, I found that the show created an environment whereby females almost 100% are being invited to essentially.

00:06:29.600 I'm sorry.

00:06:30.060 We have to pause momentarily.

00:06:31.520 What's wrong with the.

00:06:32.600 The audio is about three in and out.

00:06:36.380 I just watched one on the stream and it's getting, it's like in and out.

00:06:39.800 This could be related to the stop and start of the recording that I'm possibly.

00:06:54.840 I'm sorry, guys.

00:06:55.720 We're having audio issues.

00:06:57.740 People are saying it's good.

00:07:00.040 I feel like trying to listen to it on the cell phone is not the way to troubleshoot this.

00:07:04.380 Yeah, white supremacy.

00:07:10.120 Yeah.

00:07:10.960 What was, was anything, even race talked about in that entire show?

00:07:16.360 Well, you have to understand when it comes to ancestral or generational trauma that I was responding to, it has nothing to do with the external appearance of things.

00:07:26.380 It's an energetics.

00:07:27.440 So, when I say white supremacy, I'm referring to the energetics of there being basically a hierarchy of worthiness given to humanity.

00:07:38.560 That's just, frankly, faulty.

00:07:41.680 So, I do believe that there is a hierarchy of calling for humanity, meaning we're not all gifted with the same intelligence.

00:07:49.340 Or, obviously, not everybody is made to be a thought leader or a scientist or things like that that require a higher level of access to consciousness.

00:07:59.620 But I do believe that we all have an inherent equal worthiness before creator.

00:08:05.320 And I believe that those of us who are leaders are called to lead well the class of people who are not intellectually capable of seeing from a big enough perspective to lead themselves.

00:08:19.300 Hence why we started out having, like, a president or a government or things like that.

00:08:24.480 Okay, but hang on.

00:08:24.740 Let's back up a little bit.

00:08:27.700 Do you agree that white is a heuristic?

00:08:30.800 Is what?

00:08:31.320 It's a heuristic.

00:08:32.240 I don't know what that word means.

00:08:33.220 It's like a descriptor for a set of traits, characteristics that you're looking at.

00:08:38.460 Like, it's an identifier for that.

00:08:40.380 Right.

00:08:40.800 So, I believe that it started out being an identifier similar.

00:08:43.960 No, I mean, it is right this second.

00:08:45.120 Like, if a cop gets on and he says, white male suspect and he's running southbound.

00:08:48.900 Yes, yes.

00:08:49.120 It is a facade.

00:08:51.160 It's a mask that people wear.

00:08:52.420 Well, that's just a heuristic.

00:08:53.480 Well, it's easily changed, though.

00:08:55.420 Yeah, that's because it's a heuristic.

00:08:57.280 So, if it's a heuristic.

00:08:58.600 Right.

00:08:58.960 So, what I'm saying is.

00:09:00.120 Hang on, hang on.

00:09:00.720 Let's back up.

00:09:01.200 Let's back up.

00:09:01.640 So, when you say white supremacist views, right?

00:09:08.600 The energetics.

00:09:09.840 The energetics.

00:09:10.220 Okay, but hang on.

00:09:12.000 What comes to my mind is this heuristic, which is associating people with these characteristics

00:09:16.840 who think they're superior to people who have the same set of characteristics, but they're

00:09:21.580 different.

00:09:22.160 They're a different color.

00:09:22.880 Well, the problem is, for example, we had the black gal on here, and I would say that 1.00

00:09:26.700 she has, she grew up white.

00:09:28.880 So, essentially, you can tell from her wounding and her trauma responding and how she was trying

00:09:34.240 to please you and everything that she was saying, you could tell that she was raised, even though

00:09:39.020 her skin was black, she was raised with the ideology that white man is correct. 1.00

00:09:44.020 So, she took on all the colonialism, the Judeo-Christian indoctrination, and the basically subordination of women in that society. 1.00

00:09:53.780 There is literally no possible way for you to know, based on the few conversations you had with this chick who was sitting here,

00:10:00.900 that she's conceding to what's being said, not because she disagrees with it, but because she has been conditioned to believe that everything that I say is true because I'm white.

00:10:11.180 I'm actually a very expert savant psychological profiler, so I'm telling you, I can tell.

00:10:18.580 Okay, well, okay.

00:10:20.120 I am a savant psychological profiler, so I'm telling you, I can tell that she wasn't.

00:10:26.040 Okay, fine.

00:10:27.380 Agree to disagree.

00:10:28.100 Does that seem like it's even a reasonable argument to make?

00:10:32.220 Yeah, to me it does because I know my exact training and my expertise, and I am telling you, I have studied humans enough and their psyche to know what was presenting.

00:10:40.640 So, the white supremacist stuff that you heard on the program was you just made it up?

00:10:45.640 No, it wasn't.

00:10:46.500 So, what actually appealed to any type of whiteness being grouped or categorized as being superior to some other ethnicity or something like this?

00:10:57.600 Can you give me a single example of that?

00:10:59.480 Now, I don't want to hear about energetics and the perception of things which we're not talking about.

00:11:04.160 I want to hear about things we are talking about.

00:11:06.140 Okay, so you don't actually want to understand me.

00:11:08.240 You actually want to misunderstand me.

00:11:09.640 Well, because, and this is important, when we're having a conversation, if I use a word and then you use a word, but we're using the word completely differently, then we're not having a conversation.

00:11:20.520 So, let's agree on what white means.

00:11:23.060 Well, we can change the word if white doesn't resonate with you.

00:11:25.220 Well, you said white supremacist, so I want to know what you mean by white.

00:11:27.500 Do you want to use colonization?

00:11:28.980 No, I want to use the word white. 1.00

00:11:30.300 What do you mean by white?

00:11:32.080 I mean an ideology.

00:11:34.920 Okay, an ideology.

00:11:36.340 Yes.

00:11:36.540 So, you don't mean a skin color?

00:11:37.720 No.

00:11:37.900 Okay, so in this ideology, does that require superiority?

00:11:43.240 Yes.

00:11:43.620 Okay, so it requires superiority.

00:11:46.680 So, now that we've established that this is an ideology and it requires superiority, what makes it white? 0.96

00:11:54.540 Because tons of ideologies require superiority.

00:11:58.700 So, what makes it specifically in that white category versus, I don't know, black liberation theology or something like this?

00:12:06.120 Because I see that ideology particularly running through so strongly, maybe Hitler started it, maybe that was where it started, but there is a ideology that's running consistent throughout all the different cultures that either you are white or you need to get white in order to have the highest value in the world right now. 0.89

00:12:30.800 Yeah, but again, you haven't actually identified what makes it white.

00:12:36.240 What makes it white?

00:12:37.560 Again, I am using white symbolically.

00:12:39.980 I am using white as a symbol of a particular ideology. 0.73

00:12:42.700 So, then why isn't it black? 0.70

00:12:44.700 Why wouldn't you say it's a black supremacist ideology? 1.00

00:12:47.560 I didn't make the rules.

00:12:47.660 I didn't make the rules.

00:12:48.600 I'm just giving you the information.

00:12:50.100 If I say to you, this thing that I'm talking about, I'm talking about an ideology, and that this ideology believes it's superior to another ideology, and therefore other ideologies are inferior to it.

00:13:02.020 I can agree with that, but I do need to know why this distinct word white is being used there.

00:13:08.220 Why do you need to know that, Andrew?

00:13:09.460 Well, because you made the claim that it's white supremacy.

00:13:13.420 You didn't say ideological supremacy.

00:13:14.960 You can pick a different word.

00:13:16.280 I did. 0.97

00:13:16.680 Black supremacy. 0.99

00:13:17.880 So, you want to replace white with black? 0.98

00:13:19.560 I mean, would we be saying the same thing?

00:13:22.280 Okay, yeah.

00:13:22.660 I believe we would, because then this woman was then propagating black supremacy, then, if you want to use black. 0.97

00:13:28.680 From your worldview.

00:13:30.320 I am talking about the ideology that there could be a best way to human.

00:13:37.660 Yeah, but you could advocate that there's a best way to human without saying that that necessarily makes one human superior to another.

00:13:47.000 I agree.

00:13:48.440 I agree.

00:13:49.200 But I don't believe that we have a population right now that has the intellect to even go that deep into the understanding of what an ideology is.

00:13:58.020 Yeah, but when you use loaded...

00:13:58.880 They're very surface level.

00:13:59.760 So, this is what confuses me.

00:14:00.920 When you use loaded language, like, you understand that politically white supremacy has a completely different...

00:14:06.580 And you just said, right?

00:14:08.580 When you're talking about people, word X resonates with people and hits with them differently.

00:14:14.240 So, if you're using the loaded language of white supremacy, why am I not to assume that if you don't actually mean white supremacy, that you're saying that for the purposes of just kind of attacking the show, rather than using it for the purpose of actually trying to express an idea?

00:14:26.620 It feels to me that I'm trying to express my idea, but that you have a particular agenda of not understanding what I'm saying.

00:14:35.440 And so, it's kind of a dead end.

00:14:38.700 Let's go to the next topic.

00:14:40.240 Well, you can understand from my perspective.

00:14:42.220 If I came over and I was like, hey, you know, the big problem that I have is that, you know, you have plants in front of your house.

00:14:51.940 I'm not listening to anything you're saying after I push this button.

00:14:54.260 So, we can move to the next topic because it's a dead end.

00:14:56.920 We did move to a different topic.

00:14:58.760 Okay.

00:15:00.600 You were still talking about it.

00:15:02.020 I'm talking about ideologies.

00:15:04.000 So, the topic now is ideologies?

00:15:05.700 How can we even have a conversation if we weren't talking about ideologies?

00:15:09.140 Well, I thought you were still on specifically the word white.

00:15:12.560 Well, no.

00:15:13.000 I'm just trying to get your thought pattern down.

00:15:14.620 So, would it be helpful to you?

00:15:16.600 Maybe we can back up.

00:15:17.800 Sure.

00:15:18.060 Would it be helpful to you if we defined our ideologies, why we think the way that we think,

00:15:25.300 and where it is that we're coming from?

00:15:27.800 Yes.

00:15:28.280 Would that be helpful?

00:15:29.540 Yes, I think so.

00:15:30.280 Okay.

00:15:30.560 Well, let's start with yours, and then I'll do mine.

00:15:34.200 It would actually be better for you to go first so I know what you're looking for.

00:15:38.040 Okay.

00:15:38.780 So, to explain to you my worldview, and there's a bit of complication, but I'm going to try to get it really condensed

00:15:48.160 so that you can understand where I'm coming from.

00:15:52.480 So, I'm an Eastern Orthodox Christian.

00:15:54.200 Eastern, can you explain that further?

00:15:56.220 Yeah, I'm about to.

00:15:57.140 Yep.

00:15:57.440 I'm about to explain what that means.

00:15:59.480 So, there's many types of Christians, you would say, but there are some kind of universal agreements

00:16:06.160 among what are considered Trinitarian Christians.

00:16:08.920 Okay.

00:16:09.140 So, this would include, so the scripture I'm about to give you is going to include Protestants.

00:16:18.660 It's going to include Protestants. 0.62

00:16:20.000 It's going to include Catholics.

00:16:22.840 Right?

00:16:23.200 It's going to include Eastern Orthodox.

00:16:26.100 Just a second.

00:16:26.740 Brian, where do you want it?

00:16:29.400 It's placed.

00:16:31.080 Do you want it right there?

00:16:32.240 Yeah, let them finish.

00:16:33.240 Okay, but you're very bothered, and then that bothers me, so I want you to feel comfortable.

00:16:37.460 What's the issue you're having?

00:16:38.800 It's placed.

00:16:39.700 It's all fine.

00:16:40.440 Okay.

00:16:41.080 All right.

00:16:41.560 We're all good.

00:16:42.020 Okay, so I'm going to try to give a kind of encompassing ideology here for the Christian

00:16:49.560 worldview.

00:16:50.520 The Christian worldview, how I see it.

00:16:52.120 Okay.

00:16:52.280 And I think that the descriptor that I'm going to give is going to...

00:16:54.700 So, I have a question for you, really quick.

00:16:56.600 Before I get to the ideology, before I can even tell you the ideology.

00:16:59.420 Are we having a...

00:17:00.260 Before I can tell you my ideology, you have a question about it before I've even asked you.

00:17:03.800 I do.

00:17:04.180 Okay, what's the question?

00:17:05.020 Are we having...

00:17:08.660 Are you trying to promote that your ideology is superior to mine?

00:17:13.340 No, I'm just trying to explain what it is.

00:17:16.200 But then why is it a debate?

00:17:17.700 Because you can have your belief, and I can have my belief, and it's apples and oranges.

00:17:21.320 I don't see the point.

00:17:22.960 So, do you want to have a conversation with somebody, and you don't even know what their

00:17:27.220 worldview is?

00:17:28.960 Well, I'm saying if it's a debate, and we don't share the same worldview, what's the

00:17:34.440 point?

00:17:34.720 Because, well, that would be the point.

00:17:37.600 Worldviews...

00:17:38.280 So, debates are about worldviews.

00:17:40.220 Debates are about not only worldviews, but they're about paradigms.

00:17:44.560 So, I have a paradigm in a set way that I look at the world, and so do you.

00:17:49.600 There's no way to avoid this.

00:17:51.060 It doesn't matter who you are.

00:17:52.200 There's going to be a paradigm in which you view the world.

00:17:54.700 So, what we can do is we can utilize the paradigm in the worldview, and that will relay

00:17:58.780 a shitload of information to you immediately about all the things that I would believe across

00:18:04.280 a large spectrum of things.

00:18:06.320 Right.

00:18:06.840 You know what I mean?

00:18:07.860 Right.

00:18:08.220 But then, what I'm saying is, if I am, let's say, I don't know if I am, but let's say I'm

00:18:13.940 diabolically opposed to that.

00:18:15.900 Yeah. 0.91

00:18:16.380 Let's say, for example, I'm a Satan worshiper, and you're a Christian. 1.00

00:18:19.840 Yeah.

00:18:20.460 Okay.

00:18:20.840 And we are trying to debate.

00:18:23.080 So, I'm just trying to understand what the point of all this is.

00:18:26.600 Do you think that debate's about agreeing with worldviews?

00:18:29.280 Maybe that's what I thought.

00:18:30.440 As a woman, because I'm basically groomed to have to agree with the males in leadership. 0.63

00:18:36.860 Otherwise, it gets to be a very toxic environment for me.

00:18:39.940 So, if you were a Satanist, and you were debating with a Christian, you would have different 0.82

00:18:43.900 express worldviews, and then you would debate the incoherency, or the problems, or the non-problems

00:18:50.100 with these worldviews.

00:18:51.200 They don't always have to be opposing, necessarily.

00:18:53.760 There could be points of a debate in which you're looking for agreement.

00:18:57.480 So, is it like we're, and honestly, this is not me trying to be difficult.

00:19:01.140 I don't live in a man's world. 0.98

00:19:02.620 I literally am, like, basically a stay-at-home mom.

00:19:05.000 This is just the world.

00:19:05.940 Like, okay, I get it, but I've been, like, sheltered, I guess you could say.

00:19:10.340 So, I'm trying to learn, honestly, I think what you're inviting me to do is kind of invoke

00:19:18.280 my masculine energy and come to the table with you and basically poke holes at your ideology

00:19:25.180 and you poke holes at mine, and then we kind of see where in the Venn diagram we might be

00:19:29.860 able to agree.

00:19:30.480 Or the opposition.

00:19:30.760 We could find tons of agreement and not be poking holes in anybody's ideology.

00:19:35.220 True.

00:19:35.500 Or we could be looking at concepts exactly the same way, but expressing them differently.

00:19:39.720 I don't know any of that until I understand what your worldview is and you understand what

00:19:43.620 mine is.

00:19:43.800 You can leave it on the table if you want, Desiree.

00:19:45.320 So, you can just leave it in the corner.

00:19:46.520 As a psychologist, though, I don't know how you would say it's feminine or masculine energy,

00:19:50.200 though, because you're a psychologist.

00:19:52.060 You're, the entirety of what you do is understanding worldviews.

00:19:55.160 True.

00:19:55.520 So, I do have that part of me that, that's what I'm trying to get at, is are you trying

00:20:00.020 to talk to Desiree, the woman who basically goes around and feels what everything feels

00:20:07.540 like?

00:20:07.780 Or are you trying to invoke my scientist brain?

00:20:10.180 Well, from a philosophical, so from a philosophical angle, if we were to take you, Desiree, take

00:20:16.900 gr underscore Gracie donated $100, making the word human a verb, changing the subject when

00:20:25.420 you run out of talking points, not off to the greatest start, BTW, when you make everything

00:20:31.140 about race, it kind of makes you a racist.

00:20:33.920 Smile.

00:20:36.300 Thank you, Gracie.

00:20:37.200 Appreciate it.

00:20:37.760 Yeah, appreciate it.

00:20:40.080 Yeah, so where are we?

00:20:40.940 Oh, yeah, yeah.

00:20:41.340 So, when we're talking about, we're talking about worldviews from, from a psychologist

00:20:48.200 angle, don't you need to know why people believe the things that they believe?

00:20:52.840 Well, the thing is, is I tried to explain to you that I am a really expert psychological

00:20:58.280 profiler, so I don't need to have a lot of back and forth with people to understand enough

00:21:03.800 about their ideology to know the program that they're spitting back at me.

00:21:10.220 So, that's why it's, to me, to my brain, you have to understand, it feels like a waste

00:21:15.020 of my time, because even though you haven't verbally expressed your ideology, I can tell

00:21:20.200 what it is by the way that you try to trigger me.

00:21:24.540 So, for example.

00:21:25.140 How have I tried to trigger you?

00:21:27.080 Well, honestly, I don't think you want my brain to start unraveling that whole explanation,

00:21:36.160 because it could go on for a really long time.

00:21:38.840 Yeah, I feel like I've just asked you a couple of questions.

00:21:42.320 Right, but...

00:21:43.300 In fact, I, so, I'm not even in debate mode right now, I'm just trying to figure out, so,

00:21:48.980 from the way I think of it, if I take your brain, I take it out and I put it inside of

00:21:52.760 a computer, you're not you anymore.

00:21:54.780 You've now become something else.

00:21:56.400 You are you with, you're all, maybe all of those thoughts that you had are there, but

00:21:59.880 you're not you.

00:22:00.540 Right, and so you, the encompassment of what is Desiree, is going to be body, mind, soul,

00:22:06.280 everything, right?

00:22:07.180 The entirety of you and the ideology which fits you.

00:22:10.900 That's what ontologically is Desiree.

00:22:12.700 It's what makes you you and not her.

00:22:15.200 Right?

00:22:15.500 So, if I took your brain and put it in Madison, you're still not you. 0.93

00:22:18.320 Now you're something else. 0.97

00:22:19.340 That's not you.

00:22:21.620 I would disagree with that, because I believe...

00:22:24.040 That's why I need your ideology.

00:22:25.260 Okay, okay, so my ideology is that there is a universal consciousness, a universal intelligence.

00:22:31.420 We can call that God, we can call that astrology, we can call that life, we can call it whatever

00:22:36.540 is beating your heart.

00:22:37.700 You didn't create yourself, so whatever it is that you believe created you...

00:22:42.560 Killer of cereal donated $100.

00:22:45.180 It seems as though you are the one who has been indoctrinated to believe that you don't

00:22:49.280 have a voice.

00:22:50.460 Might it be the feminist ideals that make you feel this way? 1.00

00:22:53.760 Desiree, you are all of your brain. 0.99

00:23:00.120 Thank you, Killer of cereal. 0.99

00:23:03.020 So, you said you were on universal intelligence.

00:23:05.480 When you say universal intelligence, I've actually heard this reference before psychologically

00:23:10.140 as the id, or sometimes the superego, or sometimes things like this.

00:23:15.960 Are you referring to those types?

00:23:17.620 No, no.

00:23:17.960 I'm referring to literally the vibrational information that has been passed down from

00:23:23.720 the beginning of time.

00:23:24.920 So, really, if you want to go into the science of it, it's actually passed down by the spores.

00:23:30.400 So, if you study fungi...

00:23:32.520 Hang on, before we get into the particulars, right, I'm just looking for the universals.

00:23:36.540 Just to be honest with you, to be honest with you, I don't have a basic ideology, and contrary

00:23:46.460 to popular belief, I wasn't indoctrinated by anything but literally observing things for

00:23:51.480 myself and digging into my own psyche.

00:23:54.780 So, I can't be put into a box, and that's why it gets...

00:23:59.660 Well, there's no way, no matter how you would describe what you ideologically believe, there

00:24:07.300 would be no way, perhaps if I gave you an infinite amount of time to describe it, for

00:24:12.220 us to ever get the full scope and picture, right?

00:24:14.320 That would be impossible, but we can get an idea.

00:24:18.000 Right.

00:24:20.160 What's the spores about?

00:24:21.520 Okay, so, the spores, you know, fungi, yeast, bacteria, anything that basically is free-floating

00:24:30.500 and is creating what we would call mushrooms.

00:24:33.800 You would call it mushrooms or spores in the tiny version.

00:24:37.300 Okay, so they actually carry the information of all the earth, and they are free-floating

00:24:45.160 in the air.

00:24:45.860 So, literally, there is a Netflix documentary on it right now, if you're interested in digging

00:24:50.820 into the science of it, but a savant, basically, his calling, his obsessions were spores.

00:24:56.840 So, watch that documentary, and you can go deep into, literally, this is the scientific

00:25:01.800 explanation of how the earth or universal consciousness is speaking to all of us.

00:25:07.440 And the spores, scientists are discovering, were actually the first particles that can be

00:25:14.440 documented or shown to probably have led to life.

00:25:23.040 So, that is a nerdy scientific explanation.

00:25:28.420 Do these spores, do they exist in all environments?

00:25:34.540 What do you mean by all environments?

00:25:35.980 Do they exist in the ocean?

00:25:37.060 Yes.

00:25:37.820 Yes.

00:25:38.740 Do they exist in arid desert land?

00:25:40.760 Yes.

00:25:41.480 Okay.

00:25:42.280 How do they survive in all of the multiple conditions?

00:25:44.540 That's what the miracle is of it.

00:25:45.960 You should really watch that documentary.

00:25:47.620 I really recommend it.

00:25:48.500 It's called Fantastical Fungi.

00:25:51.180 Brilliant.

00:25:51.820 Brilliant research that they're doing.

00:25:53.200 Are there any areas of the world where there aren't the spores?

00:25:55.480 No, they're everywhere.

00:25:56.200 Everywhere.

00:25:56.740 Yes.

00:25:57.220 And they can withstand even lava.

00:25:59.380 Yes.

00:25:59.900 That's what's the miracle of it.

00:26:01.300 Yes.

00:26:01.880 Watch the documentary.

00:26:02.980 It's incredible.

00:26:03.640 Like nuclear bombs?

00:26:04.520 Yes.

00:26:05.620 Well, obviously, because...

00:26:06.960 Do they exist in space?

00:26:08.080 Chernobyl?

00:26:08.520 Not space.

00:26:10.820 Well, this man is not an astronaut, so I don't think he has access to what they've discovered

00:26:16.060 in space, but only the people who know what we've collected from Mars and things like

00:26:20.980 that could tell you.

00:26:22.040 Okay.

00:26:22.320 That's not public information yet, so I don't know.

00:26:24.720 Okay.

00:26:25.420 How big are the spores?

00:26:26.840 I don't know.

00:26:27.840 Obviously, a spore is very microscopic.

00:26:29.940 I'm very interested in this.

00:26:30.860 Well, it's all different.

00:26:32.180 It starts very microscopic, tiny, like a cell or an atom, but then it can grow all the way

00:26:36.800 to a mushroom.

00:26:37.600 They can be observed.

00:26:38.320 Yes, they're observable.

00:26:39.200 And the smallest is like...

00:26:41.720 Are they smaller than atoms?

00:26:44.580 Again, this is not my area of expertise.

00:26:46.520 I'm giving you the reference of where you could study it yourself if you wanted to go further

00:26:49.740 in it.

00:26:50.080 Okay.

00:26:50.460 Yeah.

00:26:50.980 And do you breathe the spores?

00:26:53.200 Yeah, you breathe it.

00:26:54.020 Yeah, you're breathing them.

00:26:54.960 So when your body system is pure enough, meaning you haven't messed with all your hormones

00:27:01.700 and things with pharmaceuticals and all of that.

00:27:04.280 So like trans people or...? 1.00

00:27:06.040 It would depend.

00:27:07.540 I don't know.

00:27:08.120 I don't know enough about the hormone therapies and things that they're giving them.

00:27:12.380 I don't know enough about that.

00:27:15.720 Yeah, I don't know enough about that.

00:27:17.140 In these spores, they move information?

00:27:18.820 Yes.

00:27:19.300 Correct.

00:27:19.400 And so this is why you think that cross-generational information is...

00:27:23.320 Yes.

00:27:23.600 That's one of the reasons.

00:27:24.880 And also, vibrationally, trauma especially is being passed down through the generations.

00:27:30.680 Through those spores?

00:27:32.120 No, through the mother's womb.

00:27:33.580 Okay.

00:27:33.960 The womb?

00:27:34.220 Yeah.

00:27:34.600 The womb and then also it's inside the egg and it's inside the sperm.

00:27:38.140 Can you concentrate...

00:27:38.940 Why would different cultures be so technologically distinct then if it was a universal?

00:27:43.420 Because once that baby is born into a culture...

00:27:48.820 I mean the fungi universals.

00:27:51.360 So this is the collective data transfer is through these fungi.

00:27:54.560 Because you have to understand that the universe and God is very multifaceted.

00:27:59.820 So we look at human cultures and we're assuming that every human should be presenting in the

00:28:06.120 same evolutionary tract.

00:28:08.380 But that's not true.

00:28:09.600 Think about the animal kingdom.

00:28:11.040 We have all different animals evolving into different levels of species.

00:28:14.480 That's going on between humans.

00:28:16.640 Can you concentrate...

00:28:17.560 Can the spores be collected?

00:28:19.320 Yes.

00:28:20.040 Can they be concentrated?

00:28:21.760 Yeah.

00:28:22.080 And actually what they're starting to do is find the strands of spores that you mix

00:28:26.300 together that heal.

00:28:27.480 Like there's like indica, sativa spores?

00:28:30.140 That's marijuana.

00:28:31.080 I'm talking about fungi spores.

00:28:34.000 So more along the lines of psychedelics, magic mushrooms.

00:28:37.260 Okay.

00:28:37.520 What they can do is crop dust the right strands of these mixtures of spores and it's literally

00:28:42.780 healing massive issues.

00:28:45.120 Have you seen The Last of Us?

00:28:47.120 The Last of Us?

00:28:48.080 No.

00:28:48.920 Well, it used to be a video game.

00:28:50.300 Now it's like an HBO hit series.

00:28:52.260 Is that with the bunker and it's like a bunker and everybody has to go...

00:28:57.100 Like a zombie apocalypse.

00:28:58.060 But the spores, once the temperature rises high enough, like due to the global warming

00:29:04.140 or whatever, like the spores can like enter your brain or whatever and like take control

00:29:08.780 of you.

00:29:09.160 I've never seen it.

00:29:10.080 But the spores are already in control of us.

00:29:13.740 They're already in control.

00:29:15.140 They've always been.

00:29:17.660 Their award, I think it's like Oscar nominated Pablo Pazquez.

00:29:21.160 No, I've never seen it.

00:29:22.340 But I'm just telling you, watch that documentary because it will explain to you the deep science

00:29:26.440 of all of this.

00:29:27.300 But so you can concentrate the spores?

00:29:29.760 Like into a concentrate?

00:29:31.180 Yeah.

00:29:31.200 Can you like use it as a drug? 0.72

00:29:33.460 Like shoot it up?

00:29:35.960 Yeah.

00:29:36.460 I mean, people do magic mushrooms all the time.

00:29:38.240 They're taking plant medicine journeys.

00:29:40.120 But like, is this a drug?

00:29:41.040 Like, could you do it as a drug?

00:29:42.260 Like, would it get you high?

00:29:44.020 It depends on what strand of mushroom you're doing.

00:29:45.760 Do you not know about mushrooms?

00:29:46.900 Do you not know about psychedelics and psilocybin and all that?

00:29:49.500 I didn't know if it was psychoactive.

00:29:51.160 So some spores have psilocybin and some do not.

00:29:55.840 So some would be psychoactive and some would not be.

00:29:58.920 Yeah.

00:30:01.840 I think I have a pretty thorough understanding of the spore thing now, Andrew.

00:30:07.320 Sorry.

00:30:07.640 I didn't mean to interrupt, but.

00:30:08.940 No worries.

00:30:09.940 No worries.

00:30:10.400 I was just.

00:30:11.440 So yeah.

00:30:11.920 So anyway.

00:30:12.240 So back to the idea of ideology or worldview.

00:30:16.420 I don't expect that you'll be able to express the entirety of your worldview over a thousand

00:30:22.440 books or a thousand hours or anything like that.

00:30:25.600 But I do think that humans are pretty capable of condensing the kind of cores of their ideas

00:30:33.900 very quickly and that those universals can then quickly, even though there's nuance to

00:30:39.220 all the universals, can then quickly be picked up.

00:30:41.460 So for instance, if somebody says that they're libertarian, they're relaying with the word

00:30:45.680 libertarian a huge ideology to you that you never actually have to dive into because just

00:30:52.380 by that word, we know some of the implications of it.

00:30:55.240 This problem is, Andrew, is like I was telling you earlier, is what we're having is it's like

00:31:01.700 a giant game of telephone has been going on where we have so propagated political correctness

00:31:09.640 or submission to social norms that we are losing track of conscious thought of people

00:31:18.120 being born and having their own thoughts about things.

00:31:21.860 And so what's happening is we have gone so many generations of basically being abused,

00:31:27.600 if I can say that, basically being forced by our parents and our culture around us to

00:31:34.140 adhere to a particular thought process.

00:31:36.860 Otherwise, we are literally bullied nearly to death.

00:31:40.980 So I don't...

00:31:42.000 And you think that's bad, right?

00:31:44.780 Yes.

00:31:45.420 Okay.

00:31:45.660 So bad, thinking things can be bad in and of itself is ideological.

00:31:52.920 The force...

00:31:53.980 Okay.

00:31:54.380 So here's my ideology, I guess, in a nutshell, as I'm understanding, is...

00:32:00.660 At least that thing is really quiet.

00:32:05.260 At least there's that.

00:32:06.420 But anyway, go ahead.

00:32:07.300 Sorry.

00:32:07.500 It's that we are no longer letting human beings be born individuals.

00:32:21.560 We are indoctrinating them, whether we're from one ideology or another.

00:32:27.840 It doesn't matter.

00:32:28.760 We basically have created an entire world of different cults where you're born into one

00:32:36.700 and you are basically pigeonholed into either obeying the ideologies or the rules or the

00:32:44.720 social constructs of that society, or you're literally cast out.

00:32:49.920 You are cast out, and I am one of those ones who have been cast out.

00:32:53.420 Well, now at least I understand, I think, a little bit about where you're coming from.

00:32:56.940 Okay.

00:32:57.220 So from your angle and your view, ideologies themselves are entanglements of belief structures

00:33:03.880 which people have not...

00:33:05.300 Ego constructs.

00:33:06.040 Yeah, they have not been accepted, and you don't want people to be at the mercy of having

00:33:11.320 to accept them.

00:33:12.380 Yes, because I believe each person being born in and having the freedom to have their own

00:33:17.780 thought process, that's the checks and balance system in nature to make sure that not one

00:33:23.060 ideology isn't being unfair to another.

00:33:27.020 Okay.

00:33:27.460 So let's back up then, now that at least I understand the core of this.

00:33:31.680 I'm tribal, if that helps you make sense.

00:33:34.160 I identify more with like a Native American or a tribal African culture.

00:33:39.440 Are you two men?

00:33:40.160 No, I'm Cherokee and Blackfoot.

00:33:41.900 Blackfoot, okay. 0.98

00:33:42.560 Yeah.

00:33:43.260 Like in actuality or identified?

00:33:45.120 Do you have membership?

00:33:46.500 I don't have membership.

00:33:47.360 I don't have enough of the genetics in me to have a...

00:33:50.380 Well, I mean, I've honestly never looked into it.

00:33:52.440 Did you have a DNA test?

00:33:52.760 Did you have a DNA test?

00:33:53.440 I never did the DNA test.

00:33:54.600 This is just coming...

00:33:55.680 This is coming from, you know, how your grandmas tell you, this is our tribe.

00:33:59.780 Kind of like Elizabeth Warren? 0.91

00:34:00.960 Like are you...

00:34:01.760 Yeah, so it's quite possible.

00:34:03.640 I'm not at all.

00:34:04.460 I'm just trying to help you understand that I'm not coming from a Christian ideology.

00:34:09.200 I'm coming from a more tribal, ancient type of spirituality, more similar to basically being guided by the astrology with my biological nature system remaining as pure as possible to the earth, how I was created.

00:34:28.760 If we were to order a 23andMe genetic testing, would you submit to it?

00:34:34.860 Yeah, actually, I've been wanting to do it, but I've been broke.

00:34:37.480 So if you want to pay for it, sure.

00:34:38.800 Yeah, we'll get it for you.

00:34:40.200 So word on the street is I am primarily Native American, Norwegian.

00:34:46.080 Primarily Native American? 0.96

00:34:48.340 That's all I have heard passed down through the family verbiage is I'm German, Norwegian, and Native American.

00:34:56.360 That's all that my family has reported to me.

00:35:00.340 Now, who knows what is really true, you know, but that is...

00:35:04.320 I just want to let...

00:35:05.060 And I can identify with those things.

00:35:06.940 I need to let three TTSs come in. 0.99

00:35:08.480 And I had it paused.

00:35:09.380 Ulysses, the pagan donated $100.

00:35:12.100 Thank you, pagan. 0.77

00:35:12.460 Appreciate it.

00:35:12.900 She's talking about the Akashic Record, pseudoscience.

00:35:17.580 I think this is in reference to the spores thing, I think.

00:35:22.360 The spores thing.

00:35:22.980 Was it a question?

00:35:23.780 I didn't see a question.

00:35:23.940 Akashic Record.

00:35:25.160 He didn't ask a question.

00:35:26.260 He just made a statement.

00:35:26.960 No, it wasn't a question.

00:35:27.160 It was more of a statement.

00:35:27.760 Are you aware of what the Akashic Record is?

00:35:29.700 Two more coming in.

00:35:30.460 You would have to remind me exactly what it is.

00:35:32.840 The esoteric idea that there exists all of human knowledge in its entirety in some metaphysical space,

00:35:40.740 which can be accessed by all human beings at any time by setting out their conscience and visualizing the great library.

00:35:47.900 And then they can access what are called the Akashic Records.

00:35:52.060 Okay.

00:35:52.540 I mean, I wouldn't put it in those words, but I understand.

00:35:55.780 Grid One Motorsports donated $100.

00:35:59.280 Shockingly, I have a degree, a real one in psychology, and Desiree needs some help. 1.00

00:36:04.060 Vibrational information is some new wave bullshit idiot. 0.99

00:36:09.740 Yeah, I got mine from UC Irvine. 0.99

00:36:14.520 And then I went to grad school, too, at Cal Baptist in Riverside, and I got a degree in counseling ministry.

00:36:21.940 So I'm actually an ordained counseling ministry.

00:36:25.320 Kilo of cereal donated $100.

00:36:27.780 This is not my area of expertise, but goes directly into specifics of how they move through you and how they can be collected.

00:36:37.000 Have you seen a jar of these spores before?

00:36:40.180 You're positive?

00:36:41.420 You sure?

00:36:42.380 No, I've never seen them.

00:36:43.500 I'm just reporting what the studies are coming in from the savants,

00:36:48.320 which I trust more than researchers who are paid at this point because a savant is somebody who is just genuinely obsessed or passionate about a certain subject.

00:37:03.060 They have nothing political or monetary to gain by their research.

00:37:09.520 So I believe that you really cannot believe everything that you're reading in so-called scientific studies right now.

00:37:17.260 It really needs to go further, and I believe that citizens, citizens who are just genuinely passionate about the subjects 0.98

00:37:25.980 need to be fact-checking the so-called experts because a lot of shit is getting fucked with, if I may, at this point. 0.94

00:37:35.300 Really quick, going back to your two diplomas here. 0.98

00:37:38.180 So you have UC Irvine.

00:37:39.820 You got a degree in psychology and social behavior.

00:37:42.820 There's another one coming.

00:37:43.840 And then, so I was also, I was, I was enlisted in the U.S. Army back in 2009.

00:37:55.480 I was actually going to be a combat surgeon.

00:37:57.400 So I, they were trying to fast track me to be a combat surgeon because my ASFABs were so high and I had already received my diploma from UC Irvine.

00:38:06.040 And so they wanted me to be an officer, obviously, with my ASFAB scores and my degree.

00:38:10.880 But I actually declined officer status because I did not believe that, I don't believe in taking something just because you learned the head knowledge.

00:38:20.680 I believe in doing the work to actually gain that respect.

00:38:24.100 So I was going to go as a specialist, as an E4, and be a medic, start as a medic.

00:38:30.500 And then they were going to fast track me to be a combat surgeon as soon as I was ready.

00:38:35.440 I actually got pregnant.

00:38:37.800 I got pregnant.

00:38:39.180 Go ahead.

00:38:40.360 This was back in 2009.

00:38:42.340 The economy had crashed in 2008.

00:38:44.080 I was a college graduate and all of us were like scrambling around like what are we going to do?

00:38:47.920 The United States Army future soldier.

00:38:49.980 Yes.

00:38:50.400 So I never made it because I got pregnant and I actually had to go and get a military discharge before I got shipped off.

00:38:56.780 So at that time, there was such a wait list to even get in the military that I had to wait four months from when I enlisted to when I was going to get shipped out to boot camp.

00:39:05.540 So you got, you enlisted.

00:39:07.460 You were not an officer.

00:39:08.920 I enlisted.

00:39:09.460 I enlisted.

00:39:09.700 I refused to be an officer.

00:39:11.300 I was going to first be an E4 specialist and be a combat medic.

00:39:14.660 And then I was going to work my way up when I felt that I had deserved the title of officer.

00:39:20.380 Then I was going to let them bump me up to combat surgeon.

00:39:23.500 Can somebody in the chat who has military background educate me if you can go from, you said E4 fast track to combat medic?

00:39:31.300 I would just get bumped up to officer status.

00:39:33.320 Starting as an E4, usually you have to have some kind of education.

00:39:35.980 Yes.

00:39:36.520 You don't, you would start at E1 if you didn't have a college degree.

00:39:39.840 But then is that a thing that they fast track you to combat surgeon?

00:39:42.560 Yeah, because they were already, they already wanted me to do it.

00:39:44.880 When it comes to the Army, it all depends on the contract.

00:39:47.180 Yes.

00:39:47.540 Okay.

00:39:48.460 And then, so you have UC Irvine and then you have California State Baptist University.

00:39:54.100 And then, yes, I went on to get certification in a transformational life coaching program with Mary Morrissey.

00:40:00.960 She's very well known in the Brave Thinking Institute.

00:40:03.280 So this one was actually my most expensive certification.

00:40:06.660 This took me two years of extra study, $40,000 for this life coaching certification.

00:40:11.280 So this taught me metaphysics, quantum physics, and how to apply it basically into creating anything that you want in life.

00:40:19.540 So it was cool because my brain took what I knew of psychology and it took what I knew of ministry, of ministering to people, and all of what I knew enough of the world religions.

00:40:32.600 It took all that information and basically showed me how.

00:40:37.120 How long does it take to get a degree in the arts of counseling ministry?

00:40:41.580 This one was two years.

00:40:42.820 This took two years.

00:40:43.760 Wait, can you move that one so the camera can see it?

00:40:46.080 No, no, no, that one?

00:40:47.100 Yeah.

00:40:47.680 From the California Baptist University?

00:40:50.220 Yeah.

00:40:50.500 So this is a four-year degree from UC Irvine.

00:40:53.080 And I also had a minor in education.

00:40:54.800 And this one, is this one accredited?

00:40:55.360 This is a two-year.

00:40:56.220 Yes, it's accredited.

00:40:57.000 You don't know about Cal Baptist in Riverside?

00:40:58.500 No.

00:40:58.700 It's an accredited school.

00:40:59.780 Yeah, look it up.

00:41:00.660 So I was one of the first of this pilot program.

00:41:03.740 There was only 13 in my class when we completed this.

00:41:07.440 Really awesome program.

00:41:08.880 Great guys down there at Cal Baptist.

00:41:11.460 Woot, woot, too.

00:41:12.560 Nathan Lewis, shout out, was my professor.

00:41:15.500 And Stokes, Dr. Stokes.

00:41:16.360 And he said they ordained you as a minister?

00:41:18.840 Ordination was optional.

00:41:20.180 So if we wanted to be ordained because we were going to go actually do anything that required ordination, we could get that.

00:41:27.660 I could still go back and have an official ordination.

00:41:30.200 So it's a degree in heresy?

00:41:31.980 I mean, if you want to call it that.

00:41:33.320 Well, I mean, if they're going to ordain female ministers, I mean, that would be a degree in heresy, right? 1.00

00:41:38.420 That would be heretical.

00:41:40.120 Heretical to what?

00:41:41.020 Your ideology?

00:41:41.960 Well, yeah.

00:41:43.180 Remember, I was trying to give you that earlier, but you didn't want it.

00:41:45.760 Right, but I wouldn't call it heresy because it's just my worldview.

00:41:48.820 Heresy means that it goes against.

00:41:51.040 So I guess if you want to just agree, it goes against your very small-minded, square ideology.

00:41:55.840 How do you know if my ideology is square and small-minded?

00:41:59.220 You didn't even want me to tell it to you.

00:42:00.880 Well, because you're boring to me.

00:42:00.900 Because you're so boring, I don't want to hear it. 0.88

00:42:02.600 I've heard it a million times.

00:42:03.220 Should I just prattle and cluck like this and absolutely say nothing for over and over and over again, nonstop, and talk about small mushroom spores?

00:42:08.640 And then after we get to the small mushroom spores, let's move over really quick into how we can cherry-pick the way that different ideologies of the world are all within some type of narrow prism.

00:42:16.640 And that way, you know, we can then move into the psychological and ideology, universal intelligence, vibrational ENF, and bad, the Akashic Records.

00:42:25.300 I mean, does that make you feel better if I spurred?

00:42:26.880 Tell me how you really feel.

00:42:28.200 Should I?

00:42:28.660 I mean, does it make you feel better if I spurred?

00:42:30.540 We shouldn't use that one.

00:42:31.320 It's just that you're boring, to be honest.

00:42:34.300 Okay, great.

00:42:35.020 I can take over for a little bit.

00:42:36.500 Yeah, go, Brian.

00:42:37.160 I mean, I don't think I'll be any less boring, I suppose, than Andrew.

00:42:43.200 But I did look into, you said that it was a Mary Morrissey for that program.

00:42:48.000 Mary Morrissey, yeah. 0.56

00:42:48.480 She's a transformational life coach. 1.00

00:42:49.460 Is she affiliated with the New Thought Organization Living Enrichment Center?

00:42:53.160 No.

00:42:53.760 She runs the Brave Thinking Institute.

00:42:55.720 Do you know what her middle name is?

00:42:57.420 Mary Manon Morrissey?

00:42:59.100 That was her maiden name.

00:43:02.020 Okay.

00:43:02.520 Manon was her maiden name.

00:43:03.920 Is her husband Edward?

00:43:05.100 I don't know.

00:43:05.740 Edward, right.

00:43:06.860 No, her husband right now is Joe Dickey, her current husband.

00:43:09.640 Hold on.

00:43:10.640 Mary?

00:43:11.600 Mary Morrissey.

00:43:12.400 I mean, it's possible there's two Mary Morrisseys that are involved in this.

00:43:15.860 My Mary Morrissey is down in Orange County, and she runs the Brave Thinking Institute.

00:43:21.080 She worked with the Dalai Lama.

00:43:22.480 She has a special on PBS that was, she was working with the Dalai Lama for like three different

00:43:27.780 sessions of trying to come up with a plan for world peace with Martin Luther, King Jr.'s

00:43:32.860 family and stuff.

00:43:33.560 Can you just find Mary Morrissey, please?

00:43:33.800 She does a lot with, she worked a lot with Bob Proctor, if you know Bob Proctor.

00:43:38.740 That was like her bestie.

00:43:39.840 He passed away now.

00:43:41.020 Rest in peace.

00:43:42.140 And then she also does a lot of work with Andrew Beckwith.

00:43:45.760 And Andrew Beckwith is down in LA.

00:43:49.140 He runs a spiritual center.

00:43:52.800 Okay.

00:43:53.280 And that they are more in alignment with my ideology.

00:43:57.840 The Brave Thinking Institute.

00:43:59.960 BTI. 0.99

00:44:00.600 There's maybe multiple fucking people named Mary Morrissey who are doing these kind of 0.99

00:44:04.940 scams or whatever. 0.99

00:44:05.820 Is it this lady? 0.51

00:44:07.000 Can I pull it up?

00:44:07.320 Yeah, pull it up, please.

00:44:08.320 Is it this lady? 0.51

00:44:09.100 Is that her?

00:44:09.760 Yes.

00:44:10.000 That's Mary Morrissey. 0.77

00:44:10.960 Okay.

00:44:11.720 Well, I see something for a living enrichment center, a Wikipedia article that indicates

00:44:18.160 that, I don't know if this is the same one, but there was a Mary Morrissey who had one

00:44:23.620 of these centers and it closed in 2004 as a result of a 10 million financial scandal.

00:44:27.740 Yeah, that was her husband.

00:44:28.720 Her husband was actually embezzling all that money and she actually-

00:44:32.240 She had nothing to do with it?

00:44:34.240 Well, she missed a lot of red flags that he was doing this.

00:44:38.680 And so she shut it down and then she dedicated all these years to repaying back that $10 million.

00:44:43.840 So she has repaid that debt and since she paid it off a long time ago.

00:44:48.240 And now she got out of running her ministry as a church and she now runs it as a life coaching

00:44:55.860 program and so you pay-

00:44:58.480 She was a minister? 0.65

00:44:59.820 Yes.

00:45:00.980 What denomination?

00:45:02.460 I have no idea.

00:45:03.580 No clue.

00:45:04.540 She started her own as far as I know.

00:45:06.440 Yeah.

00:45:07.140 Well, I mean, it seems to indicate here there's a news organization called-

00:45:11.680 Now again, when you-

00:45:14.260 I just want to clarify something.

00:45:15.860 When he's saying ministry, he's assuming that it's a Christian ideology.

00:45:19.740 I'm not talking about Christian ministry.

00:45:22.000 Is that where you're getting-

00:45:23.180 Because I'm feeling some animosity towards you and I'm not understanding why.

00:45:27.240 You're being very condescending when I bring up the word ministry.

00:45:30.040 Well, okay.

00:45:31.320 You have a degree from a Christian university.

00:45:33.920 That doesn't mean I'm a Christian.

00:45:35.260 Yeah, I understand.

00:45:36.120 But if a Christian university is going to ordain you for a ministry-

00:45:39.220 They didn't ordain me.

00:45:40.400 That's not what I said.

00:45:41.560 I said, if a Christian organization is going to ordain you for a ministry, they're going

00:45:46.480 to be ordaining you as a Christian minister.

00:45:48.520 But I'm not-

00:45:49.320 Mary Morrissey was not ordained by a Christian organization and nor was I.

00:45:52.880 Yeah, I get it.

00:45:53.700 But you could see how it would correlate, before we were using the word minister in

00:45:58.800 this context, ministry, from a Christian context, that I could assume that this woman

00:46:03.600 was a Christian minister.

00:46:05.120 She was not a Christian minister.

00:46:06.220 That's fine.

00:46:06.740 If she wasn't.

00:46:07.600 But when you say ministry, then what does that mean?

00:46:10.760 Just I tell people my ideas.

00:46:12.060 It means somebody who is dedicated to helping people.

00:46:14.920 And they have an accountability that is between them and God.

00:46:20.140 So basically they-

00:46:20.600 So there could be satanic ministers?

00:46:21.940 Yes.

00:46:22.460 If that's their higher power that they are accountable to, yes, there could be satanic

00:46:26.480 ministers.

00:46:26.900 And there is, obviously.

00:46:28.200 Yeah.

00:46:28.760 Well, I mean, I'm not super interested in this Mary Morrissey or the program that you

00:46:33.960 were referencing.

00:46:35.280 It does seem to indicate here that as of 2007, there's no more recent reportings.

00:46:41.540 But this is on Wikipedia.

00:46:42.540 The news organization reported she only repaid only $74,000 since her plea bargain, her plea

00:46:49.760 bargain, was struck in 2005.

00:46:53.060 In any case, I'm not super interested in that, but you paid $40,000 for that program?

00:46:57.240 Well, I paid $15,000 for a year of mentorship with her program.

00:47:03.400 So that basically taught me what they call brave thinking skills.

00:47:08.800 So basically how to actually bring back critical thought and how to become conscious again of

00:47:18.660 your thoughts.

00:47:19.040 So she's a life coach, right?

00:47:21.160 She's a life coach, yeah. 1.00

00:47:22.080 A transformational life coach.

00:47:23.180 Yeah.

00:47:23.420 And you're also a transformational life coach?

00:47:25.160 I don't label myself as that, no.

00:47:26.840 But you are a life coach.

00:47:28.340 I don't label myself as that.

00:47:29.820 But you said you do life coaching.

00:47:31.360 If that's what people need at the time.

00:47:33.940 So you do do life coaching.

00:47:38.340 What's the point of your question?

00:47:39.820 To ask if you do life coaching.

00:47:41.360 Why are you asking?

00:47:42.480 What's your intention?

00:47:43.660 To see if you do life coaching.

00:47:46.020 But there's a deeper intention behind that.

00:47:48.140 Can you explain it?

00:47:49.620 Yeah.

00:47:49.900 I would like to know if you do life coaching.

00:47:51.860 Why?

00:47:52.560 So that I know the answer to the question of if you do life coaching.

00:47:57.460 I don't believe that you're being straightforward with your intention.

00:48:00.700 So I'll just say no.

00:48:02.000 No, you don't do life coaching.

00:48:03.360 No.

00:48:03.700 Okay.

00:48:04.640 I don't think that was a gotcha.

00:48:05.800 But anyways, I do want to move on.

00:48:08.200 In your opening statement, you mentioned that what you mentioned, there's the colonialism.

00:48:13.300 White supremacy.

00:48:14.260 We already talked about that. 0.96

00:48:15.420 You also mentioned the woman hating.

00:48:17.400 What specifically did me or Andrew say that indicated that we hate women or that we...

00:48:25.420 What was a woman hating about the show? 1.00

00:48:29.200 I didn't feel safe in your presence.

00:48:31.280 What does that have?

00:48:33.820 Okay.

00:48:34.340 Anything else?

00:48:37.220 Well, I'm almost 40.

00:48:39.420 So I've been a woman for a long time.

00:48:41.500 And what I've learned is that when I'm welcome, I feel safe.

00:48:49.040 And when I'm not, I don't.

00:48:52.960 Okay.

00:48:53.800 So is there anything else that me or Andrew said or through our conduct that would indicate that was woman hating?

00:49:02.560 I don't think I need to explain why I didn't feel safe.

00:49:08.320 That's not what I'm asking you.

00:49:10.420 I'll even grant that you didn't feel safe.

00:49:12.280 That's fine.

00:49:13.140 How were we woman hating?

00:49:15.660 Why don't you tell me?

00:49:17.740 Well, I'd like to ask, do you think that people on the TV can jump out of the TV and hurt you?

00:49:24.640 Grid One Motorsports donated $100.

00:49:30.060 Bullsheet, that is all. 0.61

00:49:32.100 Oh, wait. 1.00

00:49:33.100 Get to a church and find God or go to hell.

00:49:36.020 Yeah, do you think people can jump out of a TV screen and do bad things to you?

00:49:41.860 I do.

00:49:42.380 Because most damage, especially done these days, is psychological and emotional.

00:49:47.740 So feeling safe from your perspective is not just physical.

00:49:51.960 Exactly.

00:49:52.400 It's emotional safety?

00:49:53.500 Correct.

00:49:54.100 And is it other people's responsibility to make you feel emotionally safe?

00:49:58.820 Or is it your responsibility?

00:50:01.260 I would say it's both.

00:50:02.960 Okay, so it is other people's responsibility to make you feel emotionally safe?

00:50:07.040 I say when there is not full disclosure of the plan of what's going to be done to me psychologically,

00:50:16.120 then that is the responsibility of the person who's manipulating me.

00:50:20.340 It's really funny that you say that because this actually is just deterring responsibility to the second party, right?

00:50:27.080 So you're saying...

00:50:27.800 Yes, you guys are more powerful than I am as far as damaging me psychologically

00:50:32.640 because we live in a society that has normalized the manipulation of women and their vulnerability emotionally. 0.95

00:50:40.940 So I believe that you partook in that same essentially tactic of getting from me what you wanted.

00:50:50.260 Yeah, so I'm going to just like grant a couple things, right?

00:50:54.460 Thing one...

00:50:55.300 I have to go to the bathroom first and then when I come back you can share.

00:50:58.440 Okay.

00:50:58.700 Okay.

00:51:02.640 Well, I'd like to take this moment to talk about DebateUniversity.com.

00:51:11.300 Guys, DebateUniversity.com, Verbal Combat.

00:51:18.580 Oh, I'm sorry.

00:51:19.780 There's a motorcycle, very noisy, very noisy motorcycle going by here.

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00:52:03.120 Like maybe once or twice a show, I'll have a good one sometimes.

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00:52:22.660 And yeah, be sure to check it out.

00:52:25.420 Now, also I'd like to shout out our Twitch.

00:52:29.060 Twitch.tv slash whatever.

00:52:32.480 Drop us a follow in a Prime sub if you have one.

00:52:34.560 Guys, it's been 18 minutes since we last got Prime.

00:52:38.720 Help.

00:52:40.480 That was a deep.

00:52:41.820 That was a deep.

00:52:42.660 You got a deep voice, Maddie.

00:52:44.020 Help.

00:52:44.720 Help.

00:52:45.540 Help.

00:52:47.700 She's getting meds for that. 1.00

00:52:50.740 Yeah.

00:52:51.680 Drop us a follow in a Prime sub if you have one, boys.

00:52:53.740 I think it's bugged.

00:52:54.720 18 minutes.

00:52:55.400 Can somebody test it out?

00:52:56.420 Thank you guys.

00:52:57.300 And how many shots?

00:53:01.540 Did you guys have, you had one shot?

00:53:03.480 This is my third shot.

00:53:05.000 Maybe don't.

00:53:06.000 Maybe the alcohol is not a good idea.

00:53:09.340 Well, if you guys were nice, I wouldn't need it.

00:53:12.500 If we were nice, she wouldn't need.

00:53:14.800 We've been nice.

00:53:16.140 I think you guys are nice.

00:53:17.120 We've been nice.

00:53:23.200 I was just about to tell you exactly what I thought, but then you had to pee.

00:53:28.780 I did.

00:53:29.960 I've had a lot of children.

00:53:30.920 We will get, in future episodes, funnels onto the table for people to, so they don't have

00:53:37.800 to go.

00:53:37.980 So yeah, I mean, I was just about to grant to you, yeah, I don't care about how what I

00:53:44.000 say makes a person emotionally feel if the purpose of the discussion is a disagreement.

00:53:51.140 How you're like, your emotional state from there is totally irrelevant to me.

00:53:55.460 Do you know that that's a symptom?

00:54:00.100 Of what?

00:54:02.040 Psychopathy.

00:54:03.720 Psychopathy doesn't exist.

00:54:05.800 It does.

00:54:06.640 It doesn't.

00:54:07.100 It's the lack of empathy for another's feelings.

00:54:10.140 Okay.

00:54:10.460 So you're a psychologist, right?

00:54:12.180 Yes.

00:54:12.600 Okay.

00:54:13.160 Do you think that psychopathy is actually a medical psychological condition and that you

00:54:20.320 can identify it in the DSM?

00:54:22.100 Yes.

00:54:22.440 They can now brain scan you and tell if you have psychopathy.

00:54:24.980 Do you have your phone?

00:54:26.160 Yes.

00:54:26.600 Okay.

00:54:26.860 Can you pull up the DSM-5 and show me where it says anything about psychopathy?

00:54:31.800 I'm not talking about the DSM-5.

00:54:33.260 I'm talking about-

00:54:33.880 So how do you categorize what is the psychological condition?

00:54:36.240 You can get a brain scan and your gray matter would show up differently than somebody without

00:54:40.140 psychopathy.

00:54:40.940 First of all, when you're talking about brain scans, that's really brand new tech.

00:54:44.900 That's the same thing as when people say that you can do a brain scan to determine a

00:54:48.040 gender.

00:54:48.320 You really can't because you have human variances and sexuality.

00:54:51.760 The gender is determined more by the hormonal makeup in the body system.

00:54:54.980 The gray matter cannot determine if somebody is a psychopath, but even if it could, psychopathy

00:55:00.060 in and of itself has not even been demonstrated to be harmful to society.

00:55:03.880 Psychopathy in and of itself could be a boon to society.

00:55:07.500 For instance, you may need people who have completely unfeeling dispositions for certain

00:55:12.420 jobs which need doing.

00:55:15.540 I agree because we are all tools, essentially, of the divine.

00:55:21.020 God.

00:55:21.900 In your ideology, you would call it God.

00:55:23.820 Yeah.

00:55:24.000 I would say that we're all definitely in-

00:55:27.040 I agree.

00:55:27.460 There's where our Venn diagrams are crossing.

00:55:30.800 I believe we are all tools.

00:55:31.920 But I need to ask, just because I don't care what your emotional state is when we're having

00:55:36.380 a discussion about something we disagree on, I don't understand why that would even indicate

00:55:40.600 psychopathy.

00:55:41.480 It's very common for stoic men to not care about the emotional status of a person who refuses

00:55:47.140 to adhere to logic.

00:55:48.080 It's very common of men to be abusive.

00:55:49.680 It doesn't mean it's right.

00:55:50.700 Yeah, but now you're conflating two different things.

00:55:54.920 So, I would agree-

00:55:55.700 Psychopathic individuals are abusive.

00:56:00.160 Yeah, but not all abusive people are psychopaths.

00:56:02.400 Just because it's been true.

00:56:02.940 That's true. 0.82

00:56:03.540 Some of them are narcissistic.

00:56:05.080 Yeah, but not all abusive people are narcissists.

00:56:06.900 Some of them are just trauma responding and they overreacted to something.

00:56:09.520 Not all of them are doing that either.

00:56:11.640 Name a type of abuse that somebody-

00:56:14.000 Abuse from you is so broad that it encompasses everything.

00:56:16.980 It encompasses emotional, physical, psychological.

00:56:19.860 It's the degradation.

00:56:21.040 It's the calculated degradation of another individual without remorse, feeling, or care.

00:56:28.880 It's not a trauma response, in other words.

00:56:31.040 Now, what you saw of me in the last show was me trauma responding.

00:56:34.700 So, I did hurt people's feelings and I said things that were-

00:56:37.920 Oh, that seems-

00:56:38.680 You could say-

00:56:39.140 How convenient.

00:56:39.820 You could say abusive.

00:56:41.380 But I really was-

00:56:42.960 I have very complex traumas.

00:56:46.080 I could spend a lot of time telling you about it.

00:56:49.200 But isn't it awful convenient to say, when I do it, it's excused. 1.00

00:56:52.580 When you do it, it's because you're a psychopath. 1.00

00:56:55.220 Well, to be honest with you, you're a predator. 0.99

00:56:59.960 I'm not.

00:57:01.200 You're not a predator?

00:57:02.580 No.

00:57:03.320 What makes me predatory and you not predatory?

00:57:05.780 I don't go out seeking to hurt people.

00:57:09.040 You do.

00:57:09.460 Who do I go out to seek to hurt?

00:57:10.920 Me.

00:57:11.480 How did I seek to hurt you?

00:57:13.380 You are seeking to show the followers that I am basically not worth living, not worth

00:57:21.080 speaking, not worth breathing.

00:57:22.280 What are you talking about?

00:57:23.060 Not worth having an opinion.

00:57:24.580 My opinion-

00:57:25.700 Well, if your opinion is bad, then yes.

00:57:27.640 Your opinion-

00:57:28.680 You are a very condescending person.

00:57:31.960 Try to juxtapose yourself.

00:57:33.100 Put yourself in my shoes for a second.

00:57:34.920 Okay?

00:57:35.700 Let us assume for a second that I had some knowledge.

00:57:39.380 I was raised by your type.

00:57:40.900 Assume for a second-

00:57:42.380 Well, they didn't raise you right, but assume for a second-

00:57:45.020 I just diverted to something else.

00:57:47.200 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:57:47.220 Okay.

00:57:47.400 So anyway, back to this real quick.

00:57:49.200 I was in the middle of talking.

00:57:50.640 It's awful abusive of you to cut me off while I'm speaking.

00:57:53.360 It is.

00:57:53.620 I'm speaking.

00:57:54.160 I'm just giving you back your own medicine.

00:57:55.840 I'm speaking.

00:57:56.520 I'm giving you back your own medicine.

00:57:57.680 Listen, I don't respect you.

00:57:59.740 I'm speaking.

00:58:00.520 I don't respect you.

00:58:01.600 I'm speaking.

00:58:02.340 I don't respect your thought process.

00:58:03.740 So anyway-

00:58:04.500 I literally don't respect your thought process.

00:58:05.940 So back, I don't-

00:58:06.360 Who cares what you respect?

00:58:07.700 Who cares what you respect?

00:58:08.780 I mean, do you want to have a combo or not?

00:58:09.740 Why should I care about you? 0.99

00:58:10.740 If you don't give a shit about me, I don't give a shit about you. 0.99

00:58:13.040 You're just going to cut in while we're trying to talk? 1.00

00:58:14.300 Yes. 0.99

00:58:14.720 If you don't give a shit about me, I'm going to show you what it feels like to have somebody 0.99

00:58:17.980 not give a shit about you, but I'm not going to gaslight you and pretend 1.00

00:58:21.360 like I give a shit. 1.00

00:58:22.160 I'm just going to tell you I don't give a shit about your type. 0.99

00:58:24.320 And then there's a difference between the two of us. 0.99

00:58:25.400 I don't give a shit about you. 1.00

00:58:26.240 You're a piece of shit. 1.00

00:58:27.020 The biggest difference between the two of us- 1.00

00:58:27.420 You're only here because your sex life sucks. 1.00

00:58:29.580 Is I actually do care. 1.00

00:58:30.880 Do you want to go there?

00:58:31.820 Yeah, go there. 0.99

00:58:32.700 You're only here because you abuse your children. 0.99

00:58:34.740 Okay. 0.99

00:58:35.640 I thought we weren't going to talk about that.

00:58:37.080 I thought-

00:58:37.620 Well, hang on.

00:58:38.420 You can dish it out, but you can't take it?

00:58:40.320 I gave you explicit boundaries that you weren't supposed to cross. 1.00

00:58:42.940 And I just broke your boundaries because I don't give a shit. 1.00

00:58:45.480 Because I don't give a fuck. 1.00

00:58:46.980 You didn't give me boundaries. 1.00

00:58:49.080 Get your wife on the phone. 0.98

00:58:51.080 What would you like to talk to her about? 0.89

00:58:52.520 I would like to ask her how the sex is.

00:58:55.480 Okay. 0.95

00:58:56.380 Wait, wait.

00:58:56.980 That's correct.

00:58:57.560 Come on.

00:58:58.700 I really would.

00:59:00.780 Look, we got to-

00:59:01.700 I can't.

00:59:02.220 I was married to your type. 1.00

00:59:03.120 I don't give a shit. 1.00

00:59:03.860 We can call my ex-husband if you want. 0.99

00:59:05.780 He might answer.

00:59:06.400 You never know.

00:59:07.020 You two would get along.

00:59:08.080 You'd be besties.

00:59:09.080 He's a real winner, by the way.

00:59:10.920 Look, if-

00:59:11.620 I mean, he probably is.

00:59:12.640 He divorced you, right?

00:59:13.740 No, I divorced him.

00:59:14.800 Oh, well, I mean, that actually makes more sense.

00:59:17.580 So, look, if you want Andrew to respect the boundaries, you can't be slinging these attacks.

00:59:23.120 But here's the thing, Brian.

00:59:24.320 He didn't give me boundaries.

00:59:26.180 He didn't give me-

00:59:27.100 I gave him boundaries.

00:59:28.360 He did not say, you can't do this, you can't do that.

00:59:31.220 You said you're responsible for my emotional health.

00:59:34.040 We can put the no button in the middle, and you can use it, too, if you would like.

00:59:38.240 Do you need boundaries, too, and consent?

00:59:40.020 Yes, put it there.

00:59:40.360 Do you need a safe word?

00:59:41.260 It's no.

00:59:41.800 Put it there.

00:59:42.700 So, here's the boundary.

00:59:43.820 Now you feel safe.

00:59:44.620 You can say no whenever you want.

00:59:46.140 Okay.

00:59:47.100 When I hit the no, that means stop talking.

00:59:49.780 Okay.

00:59:50.280 Agree.

00:59:52.600 Okay.

00:59:53.460 Do you think you can do that? 1.00

00:59:55.380 Can I show my ass on camera every time you say no? 1.00

00:59:57.960 No. 1.00

00:59:58.280 No.

00:59:58.920 Why?

00:59:59.980 Because that would violate the terms of service.

01:00:02.560 What's the terms of service? 0.98

01:00:03.840 That I can't show ass? 1.00

01:00:04.520 That you can't show your ass on camera? 1.00

01:00:05.700 I never signed anything that said I couldn't. 1.00

01:00:07.740 So, you're going to break the TOS?

01:00:09.540 What's the TOS?

01:00:10.460 Nick, just interrupt if you have to.

01:00:12.460 What is it?

01:00:12.880 It means...

01:00:13.960 We're on YouTube and Twitch.

01:00:15.400 You can't show...

01:00:16.640 You guys, I'm old.

01:00:17.660 I don't know what these things are.

01:00:18.900 You know what YouTube is.

01:00:20.260 I don't know the rules of these rules.

01:00:22.060 Do I seem like I follow rules?

01:00:24.420 Okay, but would you...

01:00:25.260 You don't seem like you're even rational or coherent.

01:00:28.840 I'm not rational to mainstream society.

01:00:32.920 I'm not.

01:00:33.400 I'm a divergent.

01:00:34.340 Okay.

01:00:34.660 Obviously.

01:00:35.360 You can be divergent and be rational.

01:00:38.040 No.

01:00:38.480 Not necessarily.

01:00:39.200 Yes.

01:00:39.400 Not these days.

01:00:40.080 No, you can't.

01:00:40.940 Yes, you can.

01:00:41.280 No, you literally can't.

01:00:42.080 Yeah, you literally can.

01:00:43.420 Do you like Trump?

01:00:44.180 Do you literally know what the word literally means?

01:00:45.860 Because it literally doesn't mean what you literally think.

01:00:47.580 Are you supporting Trump?

01:00:48.300 I'm asking you a question.

01:00:50.680 Look at you.

01:00:51.800 Of course.

01:00:52.060 Okay, look it.

01:00:52.980 There's an area our Venn diagram intersects.

01:00:56.400 So, what does that have to do with the price of tea in China?

01:00:59.820 Let's say...

01:01:00.640 Okay.

01:01:01.160 Let's just pretend.

01:01:02.160 Okay.

01:01:03.040 Trump was my dad.

01:01:04.340 Uh-huh.

01:01:04.900 Let's just pretend.

01:01:05.720 Yeah.

01:01:06.420 Would you give me a little more respect?

01:01:08.440 No.

01:01:08.800 None?

01:01:10.040 No.

01:01:11.080 I would treat you exactly how you treat you.

01:01:14.540 I usually match people's energy.

01:01:16.260 Same. 1.00

01:01:16.540 So, if they're being lunatic assholes, then I'm a lunatic asshole. 1.00

01:01:19.360 Same. 1.00

01:01:20.240 Yeah.

01:01:20.500 High five.

01:01:21.620 No.

01:01:22.520 So, just so you know...

01:01:24.680 No, I'm not.

01:01:25.220 Yeah, I don't want to touch you.

01:01:26.140 Don't want to touch you.

01:01:26.920 But here's the thing.

01:01:28.360 All right.

01:01:28.660 No, no, no.

01:01:29.000 Don't do it.

01:01:29.540 Don't touch me.

01:01:30.240 Don't touch me.

01:01:30.700 Don't touch me.

01:01:30.900 Don't touch me.

01:01:38.800 It's that dangerous. 1.00

01:01:59.780 My ass is literally that dangerous. 1.00

01:02:03.800 Huh? 1.00

01:02:04.840 My ass is literally that dangerous. 1.00

01:02:06.940 Bro, you wouldn't do this. 1.00

01:02:08.640 You do realize we're a show, right? 1.00

01:02:10.540 We don't want to show that shit. 1.00

01:02:12.640 You don't want to show ass? 1.00

01:02:14.120 Then why do you have an OnlyFans? 0.99

01:02:15.900 What does that even...

01:02:17.240 What are you talking about?

01:02:18.700 Why do you have an OnlyFans?

01:02:20.740 We have a meme page.

01:02:22.960 We don't post anything on it.

01:02:24.980 It has nothing on it.

01:02:26.700 Why do you target OnlyFans girls? 1.00

01:02:29.780 What are you even talking about?

01:02:32.120 Why do you target OnlyFans girls? 1.00

01:02:33.480 What does that have to do with us not wanting for you to show nudity? 0.62

01:02:37.300 You literally target basically porn stars.

01:02:41.960 I don't even know what that means.

01:02:44.320 You don't know what targeting a porn star means?

01:02:47.800 You'd have to explain to me what that even means.

01:02:50.900 Are most of your guests not in the sex industry?

01:02:54.560 No, it's actually we've gone through painstakingly all our episodes to get statistics, age, relationship status, all this stuff.

01:03:06.000 Less than 30% of the guests that we've had on the show are involved in sex work.

01:03:09.880 Who makes you the most money?

01:03:12.400 The non-sex workers, actually. 0.71

01:03:14.660 And how would that even be relevant?

01:03:17.000 I'm just collecting data.

01:03:20.160 Do you think we keep track on the clip from this specific person?

01:03:23.940 It's honestly our most viral moment.

01:03:28.400 Our number one most viral moment wasn't a sex worker.

01:03:32.240 What is it?

01:03:34.260 Hold on.

01:03:35.480 And then our most viral moments in general typically aren't have anything to do with sex workers.

01:03:42.120 Oh, what is the most viral moments? 1.00

01:03:44.020 You can't be showing your ass. 1.00

01:03:45.940 Why? 1.00

01:03:46.700 Because I just said so. 1.00

01:03:49.240 I can't show my ass on the internet. 1.00

01:03:51.280 I do it all the time. 1.00

01:03:52.920 Yeah, but you're not allowed to sexually assault people.

01:03:55.240 Oh, was that sexual assault?

01:03:56.320 That actually technically was sexual assault.

01:03:58.620 Oh, well, now you know how I feel.

01:04:00.300 Who's sexually assaulted?

01:04:01.020 Did somebody here sexually assaulted you? 0.91

01:04:02.380 I didn't say sexual, but emotionally...

01:04:04.020 Yeah, but you just did. 0.99

01:04:05.020 You just sexually assaulted her. 1.00

01:04:06.100 If her wife was here, you wouldn't be on this earth. 1.00

01:04:09.100 That's fine. 0.99

01:04:09.960 That's fucking fine, because at least I could handle something in the realm of fucking visual coherence. 0.98

01:04:16.100 Okay, let me... 0.99

01:04:16.980 I draw the line, it's sexual assault.

01:04:18.920 Okay, so do I.

01:04:20.140 So when I say I have a boundary... 0.82

01:04:21.660 You just literally tried to sexually assault me.

01:04:22.560 So when I say I have a boundary with you... 1.00

01:04:24.100 When you come over to me and lift up your whole dress and try to move your ass into my face, that's sexual assault. 1.00

01:04:28.920 So when you try to impose your hierarchical ideologies to me, that is energetic assault. 0.99

01:04:35.840 Not sexual assault.

01:04:36.920 Why did my body register the last time I was here with you as a rape?

01:04:41.980 I don't care what your body registered. 0.90

01:04:43.960 My body registered it as a rape. 0.86

01:04:46.640 Did I emotionally grave you? 0.82

01:04:48.820 Yes.

01:04:49.660 Yes.

01:04:50.380 You did.

01:04:51.400 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

01:04:52.440 Humans come...

01:04:53.360 Hold on, I'm going to...

01:04:54.180 I have to pause the TTS.

01:04:55.520 Okay.

01:04:56.540 Say that one more time.

01:04:58.240 I had to emotionally process the last episode the same way, the same exact way, that I had to emotionally process every single rape that I've experienced.

01:05:12.420 There was a TTS that came through.

01:05:14.440 Just repeat what you said.

01:05:15.720 That's not what you said.

01:05:16.640 Repeat what you said.

01:05:18.600 Honest...

01:05:19.080 I don't know when I said when.

01:05:20.580 You said that you were what? 0.95

01:05:22.760 Emotionally raped by Andrew. 1.00

01:05:33.220 And then he's laughing about affecting a woman feeling emotionally raped by him as if he doesn't give a shit how he affects anybody. 0.99

01:05:42.180 Do you usually try to sexually assault people you feel have emotionally done that to you? 0.99

01:05:47.220 I assault people who assault me. 0.86

01:05:49.780 Hold on.

01:05:50.300 Desiree, you need to cut Andrew off more and not allow him to speak.

01:05:54.720 This is how you can win the debate.

01:05:57.040 You need to frustrate him and not allow him to make a point.

01:06:00.300 And don't answer anything direct.

01:06:06.200 Yes, sir.

01:06:06.860 Okay, hold on.

01:06:07.040 There's another one coming in.

01:06:08.000 We'll let the original one come in.

01:06:12.180 Thank you, Christine.

01:06:14.300 I guess.

01:06:17.560 Naruto 2.0 donated $100.

01:06:21.380 Only in decadence is this possible.

01:06:24.120 Humans can't easily impart knowledge to offspring.

01:06:27.640 Individu als pigeonholed. 0.97

01:06:30.100 Please.

01:06:31.080 Sure, let you child touch the fire.

01:06:33.820 You wouldn't want to pigeonhole them. 1.00

01:06:35.920 Pathetic. 0.99

01:06:36.700 Naruto, thank you, man. 0.99

01:06:38.440 Nick, something about Grid 1?

01:06:40.080 His TTS did not come through?

01:06:42.180 Are we good?

01:06:42.720 Yeah.

01:06:43.440 Oh, okay.

01:06:44.160 And then we have Pelagic here. 0.96

01:06:46.220 Pelagic, this is what a psychopath looks like. 0.79

01:06:50.080 Okay.

01:06:52.880 So, thank you, Pelagic.

01:06:56.620 Now, in page 71 of your book, you say,

01:07:00.300 basically all the greats, including myself and Jesus,

01:07:03.120 with whom you categorize yourself,

01:07:04.940 with whom I have quite a spicy relationship with now, wink, wink.

01:07:08.980 What did you mean by that?

01:07:11.560 Because I talk about, if you actually read my whole book,

01:07:14.700 I talk about that one of my reoccurring fantasies,

01:07:17.900 can I go there?

01:07:19.080 Yeah.

01:07:19.320 was basically something that I had tried to repress my whole time of being a Christian

01:07:27.300 was a fantasy of Jesus sitting on the throne

01:07:31.060 and me essentially riding him face to face.

01:07:34.280 And I was always shaming myself and pushing that fantasy away

01:07:39.420 until finally the death of a friend in my arms basically 0.96

01:07:44.080 fucked me up so bad 0.98

01:07:50.800 that everything that I thought was true exploded. 0.96

01:07:57.480 And I finally started allowing in every part of me,

01:08:03.080 including the dark and the things that I had previously disowned from myself and shamed.

01:08:10.900 I let it come in.

01:08:12.200 And what I realized was that my sexuality wanted to reintegrate with my spirituality.

01:08:19.780 And my spirituality at the time,

01:08:21.700 because I was coming out of a Christian ideology,

01:08:24.480 my spirituality at the time was the conceptualization of my creator,

01:08:29.700 of my divinity as being incarnate in Jesus.

01:08:33.860 And so what I realized was in allowing that fantasy to be alive in my body

01:08:38.940 was that I simply wanted oneness

01:08:45.980 and face-to-face, eye-to-eye contact

01:08:49.880 with the fullness of God.

01:08:57.140 So Jesus was your boyfriend essentially in your head?

01:09:00.160 My husband.

01:09:00.920 Your husband?

01:09:01.540 Yes.

01:09:02.060 Okay.

01:09:03.160 And he wanted to sleep with him?

01:09:05.560 Yeah.

01:09:06.140 Yeah.

01:09:07.260 Okay.

01:09:11.080 Not blasphemous at all, you don't think?

01:09:12.960 No.

01:09:13.460 No?

01:09:14.140 No. 0.97

01:09:14.620 He created sex and he created me. 1.00

01:09:17.720 To have sex with him? 1.00

01:09:19.060 Yes. 1.00

01:09:19.540 We're very intimate.

01:09:20.980 How intimate?

01:09:22.280 Very.

01:09:23.620 Okay.

01:09:24.380 So intimate, I would say that it's no longer me running my life.

01:09:29.520 It's him.

01:09:32.720 Jesus runs your life?

01:09:34.380 Christ consciousness, yes.

01:09:35.660 Oh, Christ consciousness.

01:09:36.640 Yeah.

01:09:36.740 What is that?

01:09:37.820 The empowered consciousness.

01:09:40.260 Basically, the antithesis of victim consciousness.

01:09:43.680 Couch underscore hopper underscore outdoors donated $100.

01:09:51.860 Wilson's wife said his second is a 12 tenths also stop crying, you victim.

01:09:56.800 I don't know what that means.

01:10:00.900 I don't either.

01:10:01.460 She left a comment that Rachel, his wife Rachel left a comment that it's a great relationship,

01:10:11.280 great marriage.

01:10:12.420 Oh, I think she's saying the sex life.

01:10:14.140 Oh.

01:10:14.620 Oh, okay. 0.57

01:10:15.260 Your sex life is great.

01:10:16.320 I'm glad to hear it.

01:10:17.340 I didn't say anything about it.

01:10:18.620 Oh, your wife.

01:10:19.360 Apparently that was your wife. 0.65

01:10:20.180 You said something about it.

01:10:20.780 I was asking, can we call his wife?

01:10:22.760 And apparently she left a comment, so we didn't have to.

01:10:24.780 I mean, actually, if Rachel's, we could have her do a call in a couple of, if she's cool

01:10:31.760 with it.

01:10:32.680 If she wants.

01:10:33.160 Just so you can hear directly from.

01:10:36.080 Sure.

01:10:37.060 But would you say that Andrew coached her, like coached her, you know?

01:10:42.820 Into victimhood.

01:10:44.360 That, like, he's controlling, like, puppet strings?

01:10:46.860 Like.

01:10:47.460 Do I need to say that?

01:10:49.260 You don't have to say that.

01:10:50.840 Because you did?

01:10:52.480 You already said it for me?

01:10:53.520 We're just asking.

01:10:54.360 I'm just asking.

01:10:56.220 Well.

01:10:56.440 Because she's going to come on and say, Andrew's dope.

01:10:58.860 Andrew's awesome.

01:10:59.700 Okay.

01:11:00.180 Love Andrew.

01:11:00.660 Well, then, if we already know what she's going to say, and we already know that there

01:11:03.800 is a opposing theory that supposedly.

01:11:07.320 She has changed to the stone right now.

01:11:08.400 There is a thing whereby females are fawning. 1.00

01:11:12.220 It's called a fawn response, where we please.

01:11:16.040 We please.

01:11:17.800 Been there.

01:11:19.120 Been a wife a couple times. 0.52

01:11:21.840 So, if you think it's worth it to have her on, we can.

01:11:24.760 If you don't, it's not.

01:11:25.080 You asked for her, not me.

01:11:27.080 I'm simply, I'm deferring to you because you're her leader.

01:11:31.080 Isaiah Flute donated $100.

01:11:33.680 Jesus would have hung her on the cross. 0.82

01:11:35.740 Isaiah, thank you, man.

01:11:42.060 Appreciate it.

01:11:43.420 There was a delay in that one coming in.

01:11:45.980 Thank you, Isaiah.

01:11:48.320 Appreciate it, bro.

01:11:50.960 Should we do a voice call, or is she set up on Discord? 0.87

01:11:54.380 I don't think it would be easy for her to move over to Discord.

01:11:56.880 I'm just, I'm deferring to you.

01:11:59.300 If you can be a representative of what she would say, and you guys already posed the opposing possibility.

01:12:07.060 Let's just ask if she's cool with it.

01:12:09.420 I'll ask her.

01:12:09.940 You could even just have her question in, or comment in.

01:12:18.520 Yeah.

01:12:19.120 But I thought that, I thought that that was her response to what I had said.

01:12:23.040 I thought she already made her response, in that you're a 12 out of 10, apparently.

01:12:26.960 You're an amazing husband.

01:12:28.840 Yeah, but I think if you hear it directly from her.

01:12:31.600 That was, was that not directly from her?

01:12:33.640 You hear it in her voice.

01:12:35.780 I saw her say.

01:12:37.520 I think.

01:12:37.860 What would, what, I'm asking, what difference?

01:12:41.760 Yeah, I'm not doing it.

01:12:42.160 In her opinion, he's a 12 out of 10.

01:12:44.660 No?

01:12:45.160 No.

01:12:45.580 Is Rachel going to go off?

01:12:46.740 Yeah, she just said, read her my text from last night.

01:12:50.760 No, I'm not, no, we're not going in.

01:12:52.300 Okay.

01:12:52.720 That's not happening.

01:12:53.680 Okay.

01:12:54.180 So we can, we, I, I accept the fact that from Rachel, your wife's perspective, you are a above and beyond husband.

01:13:03.180 You're an amazing husband.

01:13:04.780 Okay.

01:13:06.000 Is that correct?

01:13:06.360 She thinks so, yeah.

01:13:07.100 She thinks so.

01:13:07.940 So that's why I'm happy for her.

01:13:10.240 Killer of Serial donated $100.

01:13:13.440 No BS.

01:13:14.980 We have a sign in my town that says, Jesus comes quickly.

01:13:19.120 It all makes sense now.

01:13:20.960 This woman lives in an extremely fanatical, fantastical world where objective reality isn't rough.

01:13:30.300 Killer of Serial.

01:13:31.220 Thank you, man.

01:13:31.620 Appreciate it.

01:13:32.180 Thank you for the TTS.

01:13:33.400 Do you have a response to Killer?

01:13:35.500 I, I'm not really honestly sure what he's trying to say.

01:13:40.640 The whole fanatical, fantastical world where objective reality doesn't exist, that whole thing?

01:13:47.140 Well, that was his opinion.

01:13:48.180 I'm not going to argue with somebody's opinion of me.

01:13:50.300 Okay.

01:13:50.840 All right.

01:13:51.240 He's, he's, he's entitled.

01:13:52.700 So I do want to come back.

01:13:54.240 There's actually, before I get back to one thing, in an email you sent me, you said you

01:13:59.520 have personas like Eminem, Slim Shady, Marshall Mathers, it's a, it's a thing for us genius black 0.96

01:14:07.960 ghetto slave souls inside sexy white bodies. 1.00

01:14:12.320 Yeah. 0.98

01:14:12.640 Well, you guys weren't that interested in hearing about my, I was interested, I'm, I'm interested.

01:14:22.340 Are you interested?

01:14:23.200 About the black ghetto slave soul inside, or. 0.89

01:14:27.140 What, what part of it were you interested in?

01:14:29.340 Well, sorry, you were, you said you guys weren't that interested in, in what.

01:14:32.800 Well, so it goes back to my talk about white supremacy and trying to explain that it's an energetic

01:14:39.780 matter, it's an ideology, it's a matter of ideology.

01:14:42.060 Wait, we did want to hear it, but then you hit the, the, the, the no button.

01:14:45.140 Well, because it did not seem that you really wanted to understand, it seemed that you wanted

01:14:50.960 to propagate a particular ideology, and that's exactly what I was trying to talk about, but

01:14:57.100 I wasn't.

01:14:58.220 Was it a, sorry, sorry, go ahead.

01:14:59.940 So I'd like to explain the concept from my worldview so that you understand.

01:15:04.180 Cable donated $100.

01:15:09.580 Madison, blink twice slowly if you're in danger.

01:15:18.220 So imagine from my perspective, right, that I see that there's a whirlpool and you're in a boat,

01:15:26.660 and everything that goes near this whirlpool gets sucked down, okay?

01:15:30.220 And I say, listen, you're in this boat, but if you go towards that whirlpool, it's going

01:15:35.180 to suck you down. 0.99

01:15:36.080 And you go, no, no, no, listen, from my perspective, it's not a whirlpool. 1.00

01:15:40.780 It's a, I don't know, fucking zazzle-y-bazz. 1.00

01:15:43.220 You call it a zazzle-y-bazz. 1.00

01:15:45.100 And you go, and I think I can just sail right through it. 1.00

01:15:47.320 And I go, no, stupid, it's a whirlpool, and you're going to get sucked down into it, and 1.00

01:15:50.740 you're going to die. 1.00

01:15:51.660 Don't do that. 0.99

01:15:52.600 And you go, no, I'm going to do it anyway, and you just go out and you get sucked down the

01:15:56.460 whirlpool, right?

01:15:57.760 That's how it is with ideologies, too.

01:15:59.420 So when somebody says to me, they're like, ah, it's just my ideology, therefore it's

01:16:03.500 just my opinion, and so therefore you trying to say anything about it isn't correct, it's

01:16:07.980 like, ah, no, I think it is.

01:16:09.340 I think it's fine to say, see that vortex there?

01:16:12.020 That makes no, hang on, hang on, I'm almost done, almost done.

01:16:16.580 Okay, so that little whirlpool or whatever that you're about to go down, right?

01:16:21.420 Just trying to go, ah, don't do that.

01:16:23.900 Don't do that.

01:16:25.220 Okay, so you're trying to be my daddy?

01:16:27.160 No, I'm not trying to be your daddy.

01:16:28.840 I would do that for a total stranger.

01:16:31.440 Really?

01:16:32.180 Yeah.

01:16:34.580 I'm not really interested in being protected by you.

01:16:37.400 It's not an interest of you.

01:16:38.860 It's an interest for me.

01:16:40.580 Whether or not you're a person who says, I'm going to pour gasoline on myself and light a

01:16:45.000 match because I want to do this, because I want to be immolated and completely cook myself,

01:16:50.360 and I see you going for that match, I'll still stop you anyway.

01:16:55.180 But the damage that you did to me in the last show, if I was not such an emotionally stable 0.65

01:17:02.340 person, I would have gone home and killed myself.

01:17:04.960 Okay, so, you know, it's really funny.

01:17:08.660 I didn't feel protected by you emotionally.

01:17:10.160 There's a lot of, I'm not there to protect you.

01:17:12.240 I thought you just said that you were.

01:17:13.460 No, you're not listening to what I'm saying.

01:17:14.780 I'm saying that I'm making a comparison to an ideology and saying to you that I'm not going

01:17:19.180 to keep your fragile ideology intact or not destroy the fragile ideology if it's bad,

01:17:24.940 because that in some way is going to be emotionally painful.

01:17:27.920 That's cognitive dissonance.

01:17:29.240 That's what that is.

01:17:30.880 It is emotionally painful to shrug off bad ideologies.

01:17:34.840 That's true.

01:17:35.380 That's true.

01:17:38.620 It's just like saying, okay, my leg is broken.

01:17:40.800 Okay, well, it healed wrong.

01:17:42.440 I got to break it again.

01:17:43.580 So it heals right.

01:17:44.720 It's the same thing.

01:17:46.460 And the more you propagate bad ideology, the more you're going to see your ideology get

01:17:50.840 broken over and over and over and over and over and over and over as the leg gets reset

01:17:55.940 time and time and time again.

01:17:57.720 You call that emotional grape, right?

01:18:00.600 I call it logic and reason.

01:18:03.880 Okay.

01:18:05.380 I got a couple questions.

01:18:08.980 You said that you, I don't want to reuse the words you precisely used.

01:18:14.900 You said that you went home and wanted to harm yourself because of your experience on the show?

01:18:23.460 No, I was saying that if I was less emotionally stable, I could see how I would do that.

01:18:31.080 We've had over a thousand people on the show.

01:18:33.160 They're all fine.

01:18:33.780 When you sexually assault men, couldn't that be the result of that too? 0.95

01:18:37.560 Could it? 0.95

01:18:38.280 Couldn't it be the result when you sexually assault men? 0.67

01:18:40.840 Did you feel in danger? 0.72

01:18:42.600 Well, yeah, of course.

01:18:44.060 Yes.

01:18:44.340 Of course, any woman who's not my wife who in any way tries to put sections of her body 1.00

01:18:49.300 near me like that in a sexually provocative way is fucking dangerous as hell. 0.99

01:18:52.780 Yeah. 0.99

01:18:53.160 Oh.

01:18:53.760 Yeah.

01:18:54.140 They're horribly dangerous.

01:18:55.500 I'm just curious.

01:18:56.480 Had Andrew done something similar and he like exposed himself?

01:18:59.800 Yeah, went over and just whipped it out.

01:19:01.300 That would have been okay?

01:19:02.100 Like would you?

01:19:02.680 I would be comfortable with that.

01:19:04.060 Oh my God.

01:19:04.720 Do you think most women would? 0.99

01:19:06.660 I'm not most women.

01:19:08.480 Right.

01:19:08.920 But Andrew's not like you.

01:19:12.620 Andrew's not like you.

01:19:13.840 But here's the thing.

01:19:14.440 That's not passive aggressive.

01:19:15.920 That is you literally showing me exactly what you're trying to do.

01:19:19.220 When you use psychological tactics and emotional manipulation based off of my trauma responses,

01:19:24.700 that is passive aggressive.

01:19:25.960 That is then you trying to manipulate and hurt me. 1.00

01:19:29.400 Rather than I would literally rather you pull down your pants and put your dick in my face. 1.00

01:19:33.780 Then I know what I'm dealing with. 1.00

01:19:35.040 I did not know what I was going to be dealing with in the last show.

01:19:38.640 So it felt like, that's what I'm saying.

01:19:41.920 It felt like a manipulation and an emotional rape because I did not know.

01:19:46.100 I thought I was literally coming on a dating podcast.

01:19:48.180 So I can understand from the perspective of saying that you'd rather see immediate action

01:19:52.600 other than what you would consider to be passive aggressive or manipulative.

01:19:55.960 I would just rather see, put your cards on the table.

01:19:59.100 Well, so other than manipulative tactics, right?

01:20:04.660 When you're saying manipulative tactics, you're saying you would much rather see somebody be

01:20:07.980 physically aggressive.

01:20:09.220 Sure, I can understand that.

01:20:10.900 That at least makes sense to me.

01:20:12.540 But isn't it also a form of passive aggressive manipulation to say, because I have trauma

01:20:17.500 responses to perceive things, you don't know anything about me.

01:20:20.120 There was no way for you to ever determine what these trauma responses would be.

01:20:24.280 That me just having a normal conversation with you like I would anybody else on this show

01:20:28.200 and have done a thousand times.

01:20:29.760 Isn't that a form of manipulation?

01:20:31.520 Well, you had disclosed to me that you were not affected emotionally by anybody.

01:20:39.420 So did you.

01:20:41.400 Same thing you said.

01:20:42.820 I'm deeply emotionally affected by people.

01:20:45.080 No, what you said to me was, you said, listen, this isn't a big deal, right?

01:20:50.520 This conversation in this context doesn't matter.

01:20:53.680 Doesn't matter to me.

01:20:55.000 That's what you said.

01:20:55.980 When?

01:20:56.120 But as you said, this doesn't matter.

01:20:59.180 I have no respect for you.

01:21:00.420 And if I was a less emotional person, I would have gone home and off myself.

01:21:04.380 I can handle it, right?

01:21:06.600 No, I was not saying that I had no emotion.

01:21:10.600 I was saying if I had less emotional intelligence and tools to process those emotions, I could

01:21:16.900 understand with this bullying that people experience, which I had not honestly experienced anything

01:21:24.580 like this before, nothing like it at all.

01:21:27.260 Yeah.

01:21:27.420 I've never experienced anything like that either.

01:21:29.340 I never experienced a woman trying to sexually assault me. 0.99

01:21:32.140 So now at least I feel like we're on the same playing field.

01:21:34.260 Yeah, no, it's not the same playing field to physically sexually assault somebody versus

01:21:38.260 your perception of guy made argument, which hurt my feelings.

01:21:42.100 Therefore, he emotionally graped me.

01:21:43.680 That's absurd.

01:21:44.700 Okay.

01:21:45.600 That's like not in the same universe.

01:21:47.260 Okay.

01:21:47.780 Yeah.

01:21:48.460 All right.

01:21:49.520 Yeah.

01:21:50.220 On tiered logic, right?

01:21:51.380 It's not the same.

01:21:52.320 You win?

01:21:52.840 Do you want me to tell you you win?

01:21:54.000 I mean, yeah.

01:21:55.300 Is that?

01:21:55.520 Yeah.

01:21:55.800 Is that?

01:21:56.280 Yeah.

01:21:56.660 Say, Andrew, to you.

01:21:57.680 All I'm trying to do is literally get to the point of, do you want me to get on my knees

01:22:06.020 and submit?

01:22:06.980 No.

01:22:07.500 All I want you to do is engage with the arguments.

01:22:10.620 That's it. 1.00

01:22:11.400 So that you can fuck with me? 1.00

01:22:13.460 No, so I can understand your worldview. 1.00

01:22:15.100 So you can monetize fucking with me? 0.99

01:22:17.200 No, so that I can understand your worldview. 1.00

01:22:18.760 You understand my worldview.

01:22:20.060 Really?

01:22:20.840 That's why you're picking it apart.

01:22:21.920 Every time I ask you a question about it, I lead to the next, to the next, to the next,

01:22:25.420 and I still don't actually get coherent answers.

01:22:28.780 Maybe that's well thought out on my part.

01:22:31.680 Oh, yeah.

01:22:31.940 I stole your pen.

01:22:34.160 It's well thought.

01:22:34.900 So you don't want to tell me what your ideology is? 0.99

01:22:38.280 I don't want to tell my brain that you give a shit about understanding me because it's 0.97

01:22:44.640 not actually true. 0.99

01:22:47.100 Listen, I would not be here if I didn't give a shit about other people's worldviews. 0.65

01:22:52.320 No, it's not false. 0.94

01:22:53.340 False.

01:22:53.660 I promise you I would not be here.

01:22:55.560 What's your job, Andrew?

01:22:55.860 What's your credentials?

01:22:56.380 I'm a robotics mechanic.

01:22:57.460 A robotics mechanic?

01:22:58.580 What's your degrees in?

01:22:59.800 I don't have a degree.

01:23:01.040 How are you a robotics mechanic and you don't have a degree?

01:23:03.060 Because I had an apprenticeship and it's a trade.

01:23:05.580 Okay, so similar to life coaching, let's say?

01:23:08.900 No, it's not similar to life coaching, let's say.

01:23:11.040 It's a trade, though.

01:23:12.640 Yeah, it's a real trade.

01:23:14.720 So life coaching is not a real trade?

01:23:17.180 I don't know.

01:23:18.900 Do people make a living doing it?

01:23:20.400 Sure.

01:23:20.640 So what is your definition of a trade?

01:23:24.360 So to me, a trade apprenticeship would be like an applied skill.

01:23:28.960 So life coaching isn't an applied skill?

01:23:31.360 No, I don't think it's a physical applied skill.

01:23:32.180 So why would you have to go to a trade school to learn how to do it then if it's not a skill

01:23:36.740 that you have to learn and apply?

01:23:37.460 I'm not sure that those are trade schools.

01:23:40.440 I'm not sure.

01:23:41.440 Give me the definition of a trade.

01:23:43.180 Aren't you learning a skill to perform a trade that you can monetize?

01:23:48.000 Yeah, but they couldn't, I mean, that would fall under anything, though, right?

01:23:51.600 Anything that you can monetize and you have to learn how to do it, I would call that a

01:23:56.060 trade skill, right?

01:23:57.740 Okay, well, I mean, if that's your definition, I'll concede to the definition.

01:24:00.300 Okay, so I am, so you have no degrees in psychology.

01:24:05.500 You have no ministry degrees.

01:24:07.060 You've never been to any ministry school.

01:24:09.360 Those are just appeals to authority.

01:24:10.860 Appeals to authority.

01:24:11.580 So you want me to appeal to your authority, yet you literally have, what, a two-year training

01:24:21.640 program in how to do robotics?

01:24:24.380 No.

01:24:26.000 What does that have to do with anything?

01:24:27.660 Let's assume that I, you know what, let's assume this.

01:24:30.240 The point is, you're arguing with me about psychology, spirituality, and all of these things

01:24:35.460 that I've literally at least gone to trade schools for, what have you done?

01:24:40.900 What would that matter?

01:24:42.220 Let's say I was a sixth grade dropout and I cleaned carpets for a living and was a coomer 0.94

01:24:47.460 on the internet whose wife, who had an open relationship with my wife. 0.99

01:24:50.740 Let's say that was my background.

01:24:52.620 In what world would it make me wrong to question the things that you say if you're wrong about

01:24:57.260 them, regardless of whatever my degrees were in?

01:24:59.760 Because you are questioning my authority as a psychologist, when you're not a psychologist.

01:25:07.240 Why do I need to be the thing to question the thing?

01:25:12.420 It's like saying you can't question the medication your doctor gives you unless you're a doctor.

01:25:16.480 Like what?

01:25:17.020 Questioning is one thing, but having the condescendence to actually believe that you are right over

01:25:22.960 what I am trained to be right in, that's a little crossing a line, I would say.

01:25:28.360 What's the line that you're crossing?

01:25:29.940 Your tone.

01:25:31.040 The tone?

01:25:31.980 That's the wrong tone?

01:25:33.720 Because I'm actually...

01:25:35.040 Am I tone-paring to you?

01:25:35.780 I am actually the authority in everything that you're talking about psychologically and spiritually

01:25:41.720 and scholastically.

01:25:43.420 So you need to get yourself in line and question me as a student of those things.

01:25:50.740 Okay.

01:25:51.100 Because I'm actually the teacher.

01:25:53.060 You're the student.

01:25:53.960 Well, Mr. Boulay donated $100.

01:25:57.760 Communicate from the Inquisition Patriarchy. 0.57

01:26:00.880 Grand Inquisitor, have you received the autographed blue-white cup with certificate of authenticity?

01:26:06.900 I am performing an audit of our inventory.

01:26:09.300 Not yet.

01:26:10.660 Thank you, Mr. Boulay.

01:26:11.960 But no.

01:26:12.480 Appreciate it, Mr. Boulay.

01:26:13.300 I don't know what that even means.

01:26:15.240 It doesn't have anything to do with this.

01:26:17.300 It's like a show, inside joke.

01:26:19.500 But anyway, yeah, so by this metric, right, if somebody, let's say, is a boatmaker, right,

01:26:27.400 and they make for you a boat, and you say, hey, it doesn't fucking float, and they go, 0.71

01:26:32.400 don't question me. 0.93

01:26:33.520 I make boats.

01:26:35.400 So let me ask you something.

01:26:36.400 Do you heal people's trauma?

01:26:38.480 Nah, I'm not so sure that you can heal anybody's trauma.

01:26:41.960 Yeah, you can.

01:26:43.160 You can.

01:26:43.740 Really?

01:26:44.140 Yeah.

01:26:44.300 Then how come you haven't healed your own?

01:26:46.220 I literally have. 0.98

01:26:47.540 Well, then why do you keep on talking about how you're fucking traumatized all the time? 0.95

01:26:51.340 Because trauma is an ongoing thing that we continually have to process. 0.97

01:26:55.520 So you just re-traumatized every day?

01:26:57.500 Yeah, and then I have to process it every night, and that's how I don't continue it on

01:27:01.280 to the next day.

01:27:02.360 Remember, the Bible says don't go asleep, don't fall asleep on your anger?

01:27:06.100 So you're re-traumatized, and then every day you heal yourself of your trauma?

01:27:09.540 Yes, every night before I go to bed.

01:27:11.020 Every night.

01:27:11.600 Okay, so all of your old traumas that you keep appealing to is being problematic, right?

01:27:17.320 Divorces, things like this.

01:27:18.520 You've healed from all of those, right?

01:27:20.080 The bigger catastrophic traumas take a little bit more time.

01:27:22.920 They're more complex.

01:27:24.120 They don't take one night.

01:27:25.580 But, for example...

01:27:26.420 Well, how many nights do they take?

01:27:27.860 It just depends.

01:27:29.400 Okay, so...

01:27:29.960 Do you want to talk about a specific trauma and how long it took me?

01:27:32.420 So how do you heal your trauma of your divorce?

01:27:35.140 How would you heal that?

01:27:36.360 The divorce wasn't the trauma.

01:27:38.140 What was the trauma?

01:27:39.420 Being with the man.

01:27:40.400 Okay, how would you heal that?

01:27:42.820 It's been very hard.

01:27:44.300 So it's not healed?

01:27:45.660 Well, it is healed in the sense that...

01:27:48.400 Do you really want to go into it?

01:27:49.760 It's really dark.

01:27:50.440 Well, when you say healing...

01:27:51.740 No, what I want to get into is this idea of healing trauma.

01:27:54.380 When you say, do you heal trauma?

01:27:56.420 And I go, I'm not sure you can heal trauma.

01:27:58.320 You go, well, you can.

01:27:59.520 And I say, well...

01:28:00.400 Do you want to explain to you?

01:28:01.380 It's like saying...

01:28:02.020 There's a protocol in my book.

01:28:03.640 Do you want to talk about how it's done?

01:28:04.680 Which part of your book?

01:28:05.880 Here, let me...

01:28:06.360 Just tell me the chapter.

01:28:07.060 Well, here, I'll have to find it.

01:28:08.980 Well, I need the book to look at the chapter.

01:28:10.640 Oh, here, I'll use this one.

01:28:12.200 Okay.

01:28:13.000 Okay, I created a protocol to explain to you how to do it.

01:28:16.300 Okay, so right here on page 57, my method, processing severe trauma.

01:28:37.340 Do you want me to read you the couple pages?

01:28:39.240 It's only two pages, it looks like.

01:28:40.580 Or you can just give me a summarization.

01:28:42.340 Well, I'd just rather read it.

01:28:43.920 Okay.

01:28:45.900 Okay, so my method, processing severe trauma.

01:28:49.500 In my relentless study of anthropology, sociology, and the psychology of various individuals, I had come to realize that it was never the actual events, situations, or words spoken that traumatized people, for the most part.

01:29:03.180 Rather, it was their uncontrolled, obsessive mental recalling of the situation than the meaning they assigned to it all that really had the power to either chronically or just acutely traumatize the person.

01:29:16.580 In other words, there was a reason some people were just deeply shaken and grieved by certain things, but then seemed to move on just fine, while others seemed to get stuck, severely traumatized for a lifetime.

01:29:29.160 It had nothing to do with how bad, quote-unquote, the traumatic event was or not.

01:29:34.340 It had to do with how the person felt and then handled it after the fact.

01:29:38.020 As I mentioned previously, I asked the infinite to show me a way to process the loss of Steve and how to get rid of the graphic images from that night so that I wouldn't get PTSD, post-traumatic stress disorder, or any other long-term negative effects.

01:29:57.400 Once I asked the question, I started receiving inspired thoughts that ended up being the practical step-by-step solution to this problem.

01:30:04.620 I had been trying to help people recover from abuse and other traumas for years and never actually believed it was possible.

01:30:11.920 Up until then, I believed the best people could do was learn to cope with their traumas so they didn't completely ruin their lives.

01:30:18.740 Holding on to that belief created the reality for me by shutting my RAS off, so that's the Recticular Activating System, to any contradictory information, hence a confirmation bias.

01:30:30.560 But now, my mind was unlocked, and I was asking my higher, infinite self better questions and believing there had to be a way.

01:30:39.020 This is what was downloaded into my mind from the infinite.

01:30:42.920 Okay, this is the method that came through.

01:30:46.640 Place a meaning on the event that feels good, no matter how far you must reach.

01:30:52.160 Remember how I told you that the meaning we place on events is very powerful and completely within our power.

01:30:57.500 I decided I would believe that everything had happened exactly as it was supposed to.

01:31:03.620 With Steve, my unborn baby, my marriage, my kids, and my old life that had come to an end,

01:31:09.980 I also chose to believe this about all the rest of things, including my childhood and being born to my parents in the dysfunctional family.

01:31:20.240 I would believe it all happened as it was supposed to.

01:31:23.180 I would believe that I was an infinite spiritual being who had chosen to incarnate into this human existence

01:31:29.480 because there were things that I wanted to experience that would deepen my understanding and love for myself, for life, and for other souls.

01:31:38.400 I would believe that my willingness to have these experiences and let them deepen me would give me gifts.

01:31:46.080 Yes, I told you, that I would be able to share, and the sharing would feel really good to me.

01:31:52.380 She's just not going to stop. 0.94

01:31:53.280 These beliefs, I told you it was only two pages.

01:31:55.320 Now it's a pride thing.

01:31:55.960 These beliefs felt good and right and empowering, so I put them in my thought nursery to give them attention.

01:32:03.980 And any opposing thoughts.

01:32:06.020 Okay, so Desiree, I don't know, you read the section that's pertinent to the conversation?

01:32:11.560 No, he wanted to know my process.

01:32:13.880 Yeah, but I got your process.

01:32:15.220 No, you didn't.

01:32:16.040 There's still more.

01:32:16.940 Yeah, we got to move it on.

01:32:18.400 Your process is you ask God and cope.

01:32:21.460 That's the process.

01:32:22.400 No, it's not.

01:32:23.260 It's how to release the trauma.

01:32:24.760 You ask the infinite.

01:32:24.780 The infinite is God, and then you cope.

01:32:26.380 No, I just told you.

01:32:27.600 You have to place a meaning on the event that feels good.

01:32:32.680 That's called cope.

01:32:33.760 It's not called cope.

01:32:34.480 That's cope.

01:32:35.300 It's called finding a meaning.

01:32:36.720 That is doing everything you can to take the event and pretend it's something other than what the event is.

01:32:42.300 That is cope.

01:32:42.940 No, it's not.

01:32:44.060 Yes, it is.

01:32:44.600 Agree to disagree.

01:32:45.760 Grab a happy image and put it into the thought nursery.

01:32:48.680 Now, if you read my book, you would know what the thought nursery is.

01:32:51.100 The thought nursery.

01:32:51.600 To dwell on for a few minutes.

01:32:53.500 Let the better feelings associated with the happy image emerge.

01:32:57.720 Breathe into these better feelings and savor them.

01:33:00.700 I did this as many times a day as necessary.

01:33:03.220 So what I would have to do is, so the image was of my friend dead on the table, basically blue, intubated and everything.

01:33:11.080 He died.

01:33:11.620 And they made me go back and see him dead on the table.

01:33:14.460 And his mom wanted me to delay the coroner from taking his body.

01:33:17.600 That's the only reason I had to see him dead.

01:33:19.500 I don't recommend people do that. 0.98

01:33:20.980 There's no fucking point. 0.94

01:33:22.020 But anyway, I had to go and see this man who died in my arms first and then they tried to resuscitate him, obviously, and abated him. 0.99

01:33:31.020 He's blue on the table.

01:33:32.180 His mom, I had to tell, Steve's dead.

01:33:35.380 Well, I didn't tell her that.

01:33:36.420 But I told her, I don't know, he's unconscious.

01:33:39.520 She met me at the hospital.

01:33:41.280 But on her way there, she was begging me to stall the coroner from taking his body because they wanted time for the brother to come and be able to see.

01:33:49.920 I don't know why people want to traumatize themselves by doing this.

01:33:52.840 Again, I don't recommend forcing yourself to see your loved one dead.

01:33:56.980 But that's not necessarily trauma.

01:33:58.520 That's part of the closure process.

01:33:59.880 Okay, well, for some it is.

01:34:01.220 But for a lot of people, they get stuck on those images.

01:34:03.340 For me, I got stuck with him, blue, intubated, dead on the table.

01:34:07.280 Yeah, but that's because people have a disconnection between what is life and what is death.

01:34:10.160 Do you want to hear how I got over that and didn't get PTSD?

01:34:13.660 Yeah, we've got to move to the next point.

01:34:15.140 But before we do, I'd like to stay on this point, right?

01:34:18.980 So people have a huge disconnection from what is life and what is death.

01:34:25.440 Not everybody.

01:34:26.580 And by the way, people used to have to deal with death a lot more.

01:34:29.340 They used to have to deal with dead bodies a lot more, things like this.

01:34:32.000 Because I don't think that it's ingrained to be traumatic, necessarily.

01:34:37.220 It's something that people just don't really have to deal with very much.

01:34:40.600 So it becomes not personal.

01:34:42.860 It always becomes somebody else's dealing with it.

01:34:45.500 You're just dealing with a memory.

01:34:47.440 But the thing is, is that when you say things like,

01:34:50.200 take this thing that actually happened and put a fun, happy spin on it,

01:34:54.100 so it's something that you remember fondly instead,

01:34:56.500 that is an embrace of delusion.

01:34:58.440 So how does that not cope?

01:35:02.320 If I can have a bit of some extended.

01:35:05.000 So we kind of veered off of this.

01:35:08.120 I was asking how me or Andrew or the show is woman-hating.

01:35:12.440 I did not get an adequate response.

01:35:14.100 Because I'm a woman and I've shared a lot with you

01:35:25.080 and it's never been met with any sort of understanding or empathy.

01:35:29.320 It's only been met with hostility

01:35:32.320 and like this weird commitment to not understanding me.

01:35:41.540 Can I just say the same thing to you?

01:35:42.940 Sure.

01:35:43.880 No empathy, no understanding?

01:35:46.140 Sure.

01:35:47.600 If that's how you feel.

01:35:52.420 So can you, I mean, what's that Aristotle quote about crying?

01:36:00.740 Okay, so.

01:36:02.160 Crying is one of the ways that the body processes the trauma in real time.

01:36:06.740 That way we don't hold on to it.

01:36:08.160 Or is it a way to appeal to emotion to try to get people onto your side

01:36:12.280 without actually having a strong foundation or position

01:36:15.920 for what you're actually trying to say and argue?

01:36:18.520 That is a way that people who lack genuine empathy,

01:36:22.920 that is a way that they use appeared emotion to manipulate others.

01:36:28.740 But my emotion is actually genuine.

01:36:30.900 Okay, well, I don't see how that has anything to do with a woman hating.

01:36:39.660 I'm a healer as women were gifted with

01:36:55.600 special abilities to

01:37:02.360 take on.

01:37:09.360 I'm just, look, this is, these are words that you said.

01:37:12.880 Okay, well, if you're not comfortable with me crying, I'm going to have to go

01:37:31.200 because some of the things we're talking about makes me cry.

01:37:33.640 If that's fine, I'm still just trying to understand, aside from how you felt,

01:37:40.280 if there's something you can point to.

01:37:43.320 I don't think that you are trying to understand anything.

01:37:48.220 I think that you are trying to bring a point across.

01:37:51.840 So just say what your point is that you would like to prove,

01:37:55.560 and then I can just submit, and we can move on.

01:38:02.340 I'm not really sure if that's what I'm trying to do,

01:38:04.500 but earlier in the show, you said that me and Andrew are woman-hating.

01:38:10.520 The show is woman-hating. 1.00

01:38:12.200 So I'm asking you to point to something specific.

01:38:15.980 I keep doing it, and you don't want to accept it.

01:38:20.160 So I don't see the point in continuing the conversation.

01:38:22.760 I told you that I am a woman, and I didn't feel safe,

01:38:27.260 and I don't feel safe in your presence.

01:38:29.300 Hence, woman-hating, because I am a representative of woman. 0.94

01:38:34.020 Well, so if I'm a man, and I feel uncomfortable in your presence,

01:38:38.120 does that mean you're a man-hater?

01:38:39.980 You can say that if that's how you feel.

01:38:42.200 Does it make it true?

01:38:43.440 Would you agree or disagree with that statement?

01:38:45.580 That I am a man-hater?

01:38:46.880 Because I feel unsafe in your presence.

01:38:48.900 I would validate if that's how I made you feel, at least.

01:38:53.180 But would it make you a man-hater?

01:38:55.640 Or would you be like, no, I'm not a man-hater.

01:38:59.200 Possibly, possibly.

01:38:59.780 Because of how I made you feel.

01:39:01.420 If man is taking your form, then yes.

01:39:04.180 I am a male.

01:39:05.160 I am a male.

01:39:05.840 If man is taking your form, then yes, there is hatred there.

01:39:09.400 Because it's not you as a soul.

01:39:11.920 It's you as an ideology coming at me and not inviting me to feel safe in your presence.

01:39:20.560 Didn't you just, so me and Andrew were sitting here.

01:39:24.240 We were sitting down.

01:39:26.060 We were just talking.

01:39:28.080 At moments, it was a lively conversation.

01:39:30.520 But we were remaining in our seats.

01:39:33.340 Was it Andrew, or was it me, or was it you, who got out of their seat, came all the way over here, got into our physical space?

01:39:43.400 And, I mean, Andrew's sitting to my left.

01:39:46.820 Who was that?

01:39:47.700 Was that us, or was it you?

01:39:49.900 It was me invoked by you.

01:39:52.840 You invited me to...

01:39:54.700 I invited you to walk over and get into our physical space.

01:39:59.440 Yes.

01:39:59.800 How did I...

01:40:00.880 So you're saying we consented to that? 0.99

01:40:02.740 I am saying that you didn't give a shit about my personal space emotionally, so I didn't give a shit about your physical space. 0.98

01:40:11.300 That doesn't make any sense at all. 0.99

01:40:12.820 I gave you a taste of your own medicine, and you didn't like it.

01:40:17.820 So what was the point you were trying to prove?

01:40:20.380 Give you a taste of your own medicine, and so you...

01:40:22.560 What was the medicine which we were dispensing?

01:40:24.860 So you could feel what it feels like to be disrespected.

01:40:26.960 What was the medicine you claim we were dispensing?

01:40:29.160 Disrespect.

01:40:31.080 This conversation, while we disagree, has actually been fairly...

01:40:35.960 I mean, there were times where it got a bit heated, but it's otherwise been fairly calm.

01:40:40.340 And times where there was sexual assault.

01:40:42.140 Let's not forget that.

01:40:43.960 I like salsa.

01:40:44.760 In any case, so when it comes to your safety, and this being evidence of woman-hating, we've remained here.

01:40:52.960 While you might disagree with what we say, you got out of your chair, walked around the table.

01:40:58.600 We didn't know if you were going to strike us or what you were going to do.

01:41:01.620 We were scared.

01:41:03.720 Did I scare you?

01:41:05.080 Why are you smiling when you say that?

01:41:06.460 That's interesting.

01:41:06.980 Because it makes me feel more safe to know that maybe I have some sort of power in your presence.

01:41:14.960 You do realize women have capacity for violence? 1.00

01:41:18.380 I'm not a fighter, you could say.

01:41:21.120 Well, hold on.

01:41:23.300 We don't know that. 0.99

01:41:25.260 Like, you could have come over here, smacked you in the face. 0.92

01:41:28.040 Ulysses, the pagan donated $100. 0.67

01:41:31.400 What did you think ThinkComing on Ata podcast debate meant?

01:41:35.520 A debate is adversarial in nature.

01:41:37.580 When you turn police, it equates to you, have nothing to say in the purpose to derail the conversation.

01:41:44.640 So, I mean, can I ask you a question?

01:41:46.160 So, I guess going back to the, we felt, you felt unsafe in the emotional space.

01:41:52.380 Yeah.

01:41:52.660 So, you, as retribution, you wanted to make us feel unsafe in the physical space.

01:41:57.900 Correct.

01:41:58.280 And that's why you got out of your chair.

01:41:59.920 Correct.

01:42:00.320 Walked all the way around here.

01:42:02.480 And, I mean, we didn't know if you were going to try to strike Andrew.

01:42:04.780 He's closer.

01:42:05.900 Correct.

01:42:06.300 But you essentially pulled up your.

01:42:09.560 Correct.

01:42:10.160 Your.

01:42:11.080 Yes.

01:42:11.400 Dress.

01:42:12.000 Yes. 1.00

01:42:12.820 And put your ass right in his. 1.00

01:42:15.800 Yes. 1.00

01:42:16.200 Space.

01:42:16.740 Yes.

01:42:17.000 So, I wanted you to understand the height of how you guys affect me emotionally and spiritually.

01:42:26.200 It was like that.

01:42:27.600 So, do you think other forms of, let's, I mean, I would.

01:42:31.520 I would rather you beat me. 0.99

01:42:32.660 I would literally rather you punch me in the face. 1.00

01:42:34.980 Well, I'm not interested in doing that. 0.99

01:42:36.580 So, hold on.

01:42:39.260 Would you say that, even if I don't categorize what you did specifically as a violent act,

01:42:46.600 using.

01:42:48.580 Wilson's underscore wife donated $100.

01:42:52.240 Wow.

01:42:52.940 That was quite a journey. 0.91

01:42:54.260 We've been through vibrations, colonialism, feminism, scam, black slave souls locked in 1.00

01:43:01.100 sexy white bodies, spores, oh, spores, tears, showing ass, riding Jesus D1 CK. 1.00

01:43:08.480 All right. 1.00

01:43:09.500 Wilson's wife.

01:43:10.280 Thank you.

01:43:10.740 Appreciate it.

01:43:11.520 Would, if somebody is making you feel unsafe in your mental or emotional space, saying even

01:43:22.060 not categorizing what you did as violence, is violence justified as retribution if somebody

01:43:27.120 makes you feel unsafe, physical violence makes you feel unsafe in the emotional or psychological

01:43:33.960 space?

01:43:35.120 Yeah, it's called eye for an eye.

01:43:36.960 You reap what you sow.

01:43:38.240 So, just so I understand this correctly, you would have also been justified to, for example,

01:43:44.060 like, try to physically assault Andrew in that moment also?

01:43:46.900 I believe I would, yes.

01:43:48.300 Right.

01:43:48.680 Would you have been legally justified?

01:43:50.560 Yeah.

01:43:51.180 I believe I could get away with it.

01:43:52.540 Megadeth 188 donated $100.

01:43:58.560 This is what she does.

01:44:00.580 She is the first to attack people personally, then she cries to gain sympathy. 0.97

01:44:05.320 She is a manipulator. 0.98

01:44:07.100 That's why she told you she might harm herself. 0.83

01:44:09.440 Before you get up there.

01:44:10.180 Sympathy and manipulation.

01:44:12.540 Water doesn't wait for you.

01:44:14.760 All right.

01:44:15.160 So, this would be a good moment to, this would be a good moment to shout out debateuniversity.com

01:44:35.340 if you want to become a master debater, like, like Andrew 100% of the time.

01:44:40.620 And, like, sometimes I'm at, like, my 99, like, when I'm parsing and, like, you know,

01:44:46.120 I'm parsing pretty good sometimes.

01:44:49.140 You can also, like, you know, I have my moments, too, you know? 0.99

01:44:53.060 I don't know what I'm, I'm just ad-libbing this fucking thing. 0.96

01:44:56.660 Guys, debateuniversity.com, verbal combat is the course. 0.98

01:45:01.140 We have a, by the way, also, we're going to have a debate tomorrow.

01:45:04.220 She'll be back.

01:45:04.760 She's coming back.

01:45:05.340 She just had to use the restroom. 1.00

01:45:06.940 We have a debate scheduled for tomorrow around.

01:45:09.760 We're going to try to go live at 4 p.m.

01:45:11.420 Once again, sorry for our delay in starting today.

01:45:13.880 We will be going live 4 p.m. tomorrow.

01:45:16.200 That's going to be another good one.

01:45:17.740 Be sure to tune in 4 p.m. tomorrow, debate with Andrew.

01:45:22.280 And, but, yeah, check out the course, debateuniversity.com.

01:45:24.860 Also, go to our Twitch, twitch.tv slash whatever.

01:45:26.960 Drop us a follow on the Prime sub.

01:45:28.920 If you have one, guys, it's been 14 minutes since we last got a Prime.

01:45:32.880 Help.

01:45:33.680 Help.

01:45:34.360 Say it louder, Maddie.

01:45:35.480 Help.

01:45:35.980 There you go.

01:45:36.340 Twitch.tv slash whatever.

01:45:39.640 Drop us a follow.

01:45:40.120 Drop us a Prime sub.

01:45:43.200 This conversation's off the rails.

01:45:46.620 This conversation is, by the way, I have the video from security camera behind me.

01:45:58.020 Should I post it on the Discord?

01:46:00.360 No.

01:46:02.160 We'll talk later.

01:46:02.980 You don't think so?

01:46:03.560 Nope.

01:46:07.800 You don't want that out there?

01:46:10.500 I mean, I think people should see what happened.

01:46:16.760 Or do you just not want it?

01:46:17.920 You don't want it out there?

01:46:20.100 Yeah, no.

01:46:23.740 You don't want it out there.

01:46:26.020 We'll talk about it.

01:46:26.900 Okay, we'll talk about it after the show.

01:46:28.500 Okay.

01:46:28.760 I feel like you might do something.

01:46:30.320 Huh?

01:46:31.220 Nothing.

01:46:31.580 Nothing.

01:46:33.560 So, Maddie, how about them bears?

01:46:45.420 Big, scary bears.

01:46:51.780 Maddie, would you rather be in a force alone with a man or a bear?

01:46:59.380 A man.

01:47:00.100 Okay.

01:47:02.500 That's good to know.

01:47:04.640 Good to know.

01:47:07.320 What are some of the other things we need to get into on this show?

01:47:12.260 Over 80 videos, by the way.

01:47:15.420 Over 80 videos.

01:47:16.040 Over 80 videos on debate.

01:47:18.100 Poured a lot into that.

01:47:20.060 I hope you guys enjoy it.

01:47:21.640 I think you will.

01:47:22.480 I think you'll enjoy it a lot.

01:47:23.520 Are you returning, Desiree, or?

01:47:26.940 I'm just taking a minute.

01:47:29.900 Are you celebrating?

01:47:31.420 Deciding if I want to stay or not.

01:47:34.080 Okay.

01:47:35.620 Well.

01:47:37.420 So, anyways.

01:47:39.080 Where was I?

01:47:41.500 Maybe we can wrap it up on a good note.

01:47:43.840 Maybe the last part, we can wrap it on potentially a good note.

01:47:47.460 What do you think?

01:47:48.260 I think we can do that.

01:47:51.000 I think that can be achieved.

01:47:53.340 It'll be achieved.

01:47:55.520 So.

01:48:01.600 So, Andrew, how's Rachel doing?

01:48:04.800 How's Rachel?

01:48:05.720 She good?

01:48:06.320 She's doing well.

01:48:06.920 She's doing well?

01:48:07.540 Yeah.

01:48:08.780 Okay.

01:48:09.480 Yeah.

01:48:09.660 I'm doing well. 1.00

01:48:11.220 She's kicking ass. 0.99

01:48:12.800 She goes to the gym nonstop. 0.99

01:48:14.700 She's doing a great job.

01:48:15.860 Nice.

01:48:16.500 That's good.

01:48:21.000 Desiree, can you return to the table, please?

01:48:24.200 I'm not ready yet.

01:48:25.860 Well, we can't just.

01:48:27.560 We kind of have a show to run.

01:48:28.640 She's filling up her cup.

01:48:31.280 Okay.

01:48:32.080 She said it's like an autism thing, I guess.

01:48:34.960 She's interested.

01:48:35.440 All right.

01:48:37.200 What's up, Nick?

01:48:38.460 We have a flag.

01:48:39.700 Okay.

01:48:42.600 Hold on.

01:48:43.360 I'll write to them.

01:48:45.500 Well, I suppose that's a good.

01:48:49.040 Did you guys ever do the debate with those girls from the last show or no?

01:48:52.960 We're going to have that.

01:48:54.060 That's going to happen soon.

01:48:55.540 Oh, good.

01:48:56.280 We're going to get that scheduled.

01:48:57.680 I'm going to go ahead and go.

01:49:00.040 You're going to go?

01:49:00.900 Yeah.

01:49:02.280 You sure you don't want to just say goodbye?

01:49:04.720 I'll say goodbye.

01:49:05.380 I'll say goodbye.

01:49:05.460 I'll say goodbye.

01:49:05.500 I'll say goodbye.

01:49:05.540 I'll say goodbye.

01:49:07.380 It's kind of overcast today.

01:49:24.920 It's a bit overcast.

01:49:26.360 You know, it's overcast.

01:49:34.540 Is it because I asked about the woman-hating stuff?

01:49:38.880 Is that it?

01:49:39.100 It's because I'm not respected, and I have a really important job in the world.

01:49:42.740 I'm not respected.

01:49:43.660 You weren't respected?

01:49:45.960 How was it?

01:49:49.520 Wait, you didn't really say goodbye, though.

01:49:50.920 Do you at least want to sit down briefly and just say goodbye to the?

01:49:55.360 Yeah, you can have the last word.

01:50:01.840 Do you want to say goodbye into the camera or into the mic, I guess?

01:50:07.960 Or I think we can reconcile this.

01:50:10.880 Goodbye.

01:50:13.500 Quick reconciliation.

01:50:15.960 Okay.

01:50:22.760 It's all my fault.

01:50:25.000 It's all my fault, guys.

01:50:27.400 Okay.

01:50:29.760 Do you at least want to announce the lawsuit, Desiree?

01:50:36.700 I thought I couldn't say all those words.

01:50:39.420 Lawsuit?

01:50:40.840 Not what it would be about.

01:50:42.740 What would it be about?

01:50:44.520 I don't think you want that.

01:50:45.960 Open up on YouTube.

01:50:47.540 You mean, no, I'm talking about the class action lawsuit that you want to.

01:50:52.600 I don't think I can say those words on YouTube.

01:50:55.280 What words on YouTube?

01:51:02.680 Okay.

01:51:03.380 Well, yeah, probably should.

01:51:06.420 Andrew, can you do it?

01:51:10.880 Sure.

01:51:13.860 So.

01:51:14.220 How are you feeling, Andrew?

01:51:15.500 I know you had a shot earlier.

01:51:17.660 Do you feel like poisoned or anything?

01:51:20.320 No, I'm good.

01:51:21.000 Okay.

01:51:21.960 Just making sure.

01:51:23.320 So far, so good.

01:51:24.160 She's pressing the no button on her way out.

01:51:29.900 She's, yeah, she's pressing the no button. 0.98

01:51:33.960 Well, guys, an hour and an hour and an hour and that fucking broad needs to put the cuckoo 1.00

01:51:42.680 back in the clock. 0.99

01:51:43.520 Crazy. 0.98

01:51:44.820 Crazy. 0.94

01:51:46.420 Crazy. 0.80

01:51:47.540 I'm sorry you had to see that, Rachel. 1.00

01:51:52.860 Rachel doesn't give a shit. 1.00

01:51:54.980 Yeah. 1.00

01:52:00.320 Is it?

01:52:03.120 What?

01:52:04.280 Huh?

01:52:04.840 What happened?

01:52:05.780 No, she left.

01:52:06.800 Okay.

01:52:07.580 She left.

01:52:07.980 Nick, did you give her a?

01:52:10.900 Okay, cool.

01:52:11.780 No, I'm just kidding.

01:52:12.120 Whoa.

01:52:15.780 Wow.

01:52:16.360 Okay.

01:52:16.820 That was an interesting one.

01:52:18.920 Didn't have essayed by Lunatic on my bingo card this morning, Brian.

01:52:25.900 I don't even know where to, honestly.

01:52:27.620 So, guys, we were, I mean, we didn't even really get into it because we were going to get

01:52:32.020 into, she sent, like, DMs upon DMs upon DMs of, like, her positions, legal threats.

01:52:42.220 I mean, you kind of got a glimpse into the madness and chaos.

01:52:47.900 We'll, if you guys want to stick around for a bit, we'll go through the DMs.

01:52:51.860 Nick, were you able to just double check and make sure they're all, everything's all

01:52:54.860 clean?

01:52:55.200 I didn't get to finish going through, so I was, you know.

01:52:57.440 Okay.

01:52:58.000 That's fine.

01:52:58.560 Well, now you'll have a little time.

01:52:59.660 We can talk for a little bit.

01:53:02.020 Um, I'm surprised, though, that it was me that I think precipitated the rage quit.

01:53:10.600 No.

01:53:11.780 It wasn't, well, I mean, I asked her about the woman hating.

01:53:14.440 Andrew was off having a smoke, and she started crying when I asked her about the woman hating. 0.98

01:53:19.960 Oh, that's what you mean.

01:53:20.420 And then that's when she, I mean, look, there's stuff that happened before that, but I'm surprised

01:53:26.440 that that's kind of what, uh, broke the camel, the straw that broke the camel's back.

01:53:32.600 I feel like you were, you were extremely calm.

01:53:39.880 I thought we were super calm.

01:53:41.940 Yeah.

01:53:42.340 Um, so.

01:53:47.080 Whatever.

01:53:49.340 Well, for her, it was control.

01:53:51.620 It was emotional grief.

01:53:53.420 Yeah, she made it very clear that the whole thing has to do with control, so.

01:53:59.740 Well, did you hear the part about how I said that she felt like violence in this scenario

01:54:05.900 in response to our conduct would have been justified?

01:54:09.640 Yeah, she said that.

01:54:10.920 Yeah, she said, yeah, because, I mean, I said, well.

01:54:12.940 And she could have gotten away with it.

01:54:14.640 That's what she said.

01:54:15.460 She would have gotten away with it.

01:54:17.040 Legally.

01:54:17.600 Yeah, legally.

01:54:18.040 There's no understanding of the, uh.

01:54:19.860 Yeah.

01:54:21.920 So, guys, stick around.

01:54:22.920 We're going to pull up the DMs.

01:54:23.820 These are, you think, it's too bad she wasn't here because she could have put it in her own voice.

01:54:30.060 The DMs we've received from this woman are insane. 0.99

01:54:35.680 We do have the footage.

01:54:37.460 I know we kind of, when she tried to attack Andrew in that sort of way, we have a security camera footage of it.

01:54:45.920 Just for the stream, though, we had to, like, go to our intro screen just because we didn't know if she was going to, what she was going to do.

01:54:52.220 So, we do have it.

01:54:53.300 I don't know.

01:54:55.100 I'd have to think a little bit about posting it.

01:54:57.220 But if we did post it, we'd put it on my Discord.

01:55:02.660 In any case, she, I can tell you a little bit about what the DMs say.

01:55:06.140 She's been, she's all over the place.

01:55:08.240 She wants to threaten, she's been threatening me with lawsuits because of the emotional toll the podcast took on her.

01:55:20.140 But she's also simultaneously been flirting with me.

01:55:25.460 Sending you.

01:55:26.340 Sending me nudes.

01:55:29.200 Unrequested.

01:55:29.680 Sending me nudes.

01:55:32.340 She's been saying she wants to have, she wanted to, like, do things to me and Andrew sexually. 0.95

01:55:41.200 Very strange.

01:55:42.460 Very peculiar.

01:55:43.940 So, one day she'll be threatening to sue me and that we've psychologically tortured her. 0.99

01:55:49.120 And then the next, she is admitting she has a crush on me, essentially, and wants to do things near and around my penis. 0.99

01:56:01.040 Groon crazed panda donated $100. 1.00

01:56:04.580 This lunatics book is only good for shit tickets. 1.00

01:56:08.360 P.S. tears are fake news. 1.00

01:56:12.520 Let's pull up the email.

01:56:13.740 Guys, stick around.

01:56:14.620 Pull up, Nick, just pull up, check that email one first.

01:56:17.140 Just make sure there's nothing.

01:56:19.480 Yeah, let me just double check.

01:56:21.040 I'm making some in-studio demands.

01:56:24.660 Yeah.

01:56:25.340 So, I'm going to come do more of these in person because they're even more fun in person than on video. 0.98

01:56:31.060 But if you don't get rid of these fucking seltzers and put some beer in that fridge, Brian. 0.99

01:56:35.720 If you don't put some fucking beer in that fridge. 0.99

01:56:38.340 No, this isn't even, this is an energy drink. 1.00

01:56:40.680 Oh, God.

01:56:41.240 There's no alcohol in it. 1.00

01:56:42.360 What the fuck is this? 0.99

01:56:43.520 It's energy drink, Ange. 0.99

01:56:44.860 There's the ices in there from the last show.

01:56:49.280 Oh, yeah.

01:56:49.580 We do have some beer in there, yeah?

01:56:50.820 It's not beer.

01:56:52.040 It's like juice, vodka juice.

01:56:56.420 Okay, we'll pull up the email.

01:56:57.660 Maddie, I'm going to have you read it.

01:56:59.260 Gotcha.

01:56:59.680 Good speaking voice.

01:57:00.820 Can you see it or does it need to be bigger?

01:57:02.980 Just a little bit bigger.

01:57:04.240 Should we ask the, see if those two women can come? 1.00

01:57:11.460 Do you want me to text them?

01:57:12.900 Or if you have their.

01:57:14.000 Can you read?

01:57:14.580 I will accept your offer with several added stipulations and requirements.

01:57:17.620 Let me just interrupt really quickly.

01:57:18.780 This is to, this was like our offer to get her back on the show. 0.94

01:57:24.820 So, it's basically like, so she's, this is her counter offer.

01:57:29.420 Go ahead.

01:57:30.040 You can read it.

01:57:30.620 Number one, you will sign the consent form I bring you stating you understand I am a

01:57:35.580 mandatory reporter and am by law required to report any and all criminally suspicious

01:57:40.900 activity to the proper authorities.

01:57:42.980 I'm immediately following the show.

01:57:45.660 Two, you and Andrew will genuinely apologize to me on air before we start the conversation

01:57:51.240 for not properly studying me and then grossly misrepresenting, slandering my expertise in

01:57:57.200 the most misunderstood areas of life and society.

01:58:00.620 Because that could have potentially cost countless lives if people were deceived into thinking 0.98

01:58:05.520 I was just a mentally ill old whore when in fact I have made it my life's passionate mission 0.98

01:58:11.080 to end human suffering as an actual expert in all necessary fields of study and I finally 0.99

01:58:16.800 have the master plan for global restitution, which is nothing to fuck with. 0.92

01:58:21.620 Three, you provide me with a meal by the fifth hour on set. 0.76

01:58:26.180 I'm allowed to have snacks and drinks with me at any time I want while there.

01:58:31.420 Number three, part two, $300 payment is to be rendered as a booking fee at least 24 hours

01:58:37.440 before my scheduled appearance and is not refundable.

01:58:42.780 Andrew just dropped a glass.

01:58:44.680 Payment options available upon request.

01:58:50.140 Number four, I'm free to be done talking and excuse myself to go home at any point.

01:58:54.840 I choose after 8 p.m.

01:58:56.680 She chose after 8 p.m.

01:58:58.060 It's, what time is it?

01:59:00.120 It's 6.19 and she left.

01:59:02.740 Okay, anyway.

01:59:04.960 Number five, I will keep my phone with me during the show.

01:59:08.060 Number six, I get to ask you guys as many questions as I want and you can't get mad or

01:59:11.900 scold or shame me for it.

01:59:13.540 There's never a dumb question in my book.

01:59:15.880 Number seven, if we make $100,000 from that one episode, we have to promise the fans that

01:59:20.560 you and I will run for president and vice president for this year.

01:59:23.800 Give Minnie and Mickey a run for their money.

01:59:26.420 Number eight, we have to shout each girl out who was on the panel with me last time and give 0.99

01:59:30.580 their platforms all a tag so people can get in touch with them and we will let the girls

01:59:34.520 know that you are willing to pay them whatever they say is fair for their time on the show

01:59:38.940 in any amount up to $300.

01:59:40.960 This is crazy.

01:59:43.440 Number nine, we play truth or dare either like 30 minute stint at whatever point you want

01:59:48.940 or we just tell people they can pay $199 to truth or dare any of us at any point.

01:59:54.260 Number 10, we offer people 30 minute video chats with me if they donate $500 or more.

01:59:59.620 Scheduling will obviously be done off air.

02:00:02.260 Number 11, 5k or more gets a date with me.

02:00:05.700 Number 12, $100,000 gets them a you pick the activities with me date.

02:00:11.220 Number 13, $199 for you and I to kiss.

02:00:16.060 Closed mouth.

02:00:17.300 14, $500 for you and I to French kiss. 1.00

02:00:20.800 What the fuck? 0.99

02:00:21.900 15, after this pilot episode, I will get 20% of the profits from each episode I join you 0.99

02:00:27.040 on in person or intellectual property with my ideas and concepts.

02:00:30.820 I can't read the rest of 15.

02:00:32.440 15, sorry guys, we're cleaning up back here a little bit.

02:00:39.780 Yeah, we're cleaning.

02:00:40.520 Let's also get the vacuum too once it's dry I guess.

02:00:45.140 Right.

02:00:46.400 Wait, Nick, I can't, Nick, Nick, I can't.

02:00:50.640 You know how, you know what I'm talking about?

02:00:53.440 Yeah, that's fine.

02:00:56.300 Go left.

02:00:57.000 I'll, uh, you guys just take care of that, I don't want to be back here.

02:01:01.100 Show.

02:01:02.880 Okay.

02:01:04.240 Uh.

02:01:04.920 You guys, I'm back, sorry.

02:01:06.120 And concepts being brought up and discussed basically if my name is brought up on any show

02:01:09.900 moving forward, I get the 20% royalty.

02:01:10.660 She's coming back, by the way.

02:01:11.700 She's coming back, boys.

02:01:12.940 Enforced legally.

02:01:13.360 Stay tuned.

02:01:14.420 Oh, wait.

02:01:14.680 Keep going.

02:01:15.660 She's coming back right now? 0.99

02:01:16.740 Yeah, she said if we apologize, she'll come back.

02:01:19.020 Bro.

02:01:19.200 After 90 days of successful collaboration, we rebrand the show and add my name in whatever

02:01:24.780 way you want.

02:01:26.600 An example is, whatever Des wants with hosts.

02:01:29.440 Brian A.

02:01:30.360 Fix whatever with Brian and Des.

02:01:32.320 Doing whatever with Des.

02:01:33.820 Something like that.

02:01:34.760 Doesn't even have to have my name, but rather it should simply represent the new vibe of the

02:01:39.820 show with me added into the mix.

02:01:41.640 If you can agree to all these things and promise to keep your word, I am yours.

02:01:45.360 What was the one about kissing, something about kissing me?

02:01:48.580 Uh, it was $199 for you and her to kiss closed mouth, $500 for you guys to kiss, French 1.00

02:01:55.260 kiss.

02:01:58.920 She's coming back? 0.88

02:01:59.560 So she's going to come back so long as me and Andrew apologize.

02:02:05.480 Noah donated $100.

02:02:07.140 We're bringing her back. 0.97

02:02:08.060 Bring back insane asylum. 0.96

02:02:09.900 So the, I think, I don't know if she peed on the couch or it was just a spill. 0.96

02:02:14.420 Couch?

02:02:14.900 Should I send, I'm going to send the photo.

02:02:16.780 She had a bunch of like liquids with her. 0.99

02:02:20.720 She had a bottle.

02:02:21.460 On the couch, there's like a wet spot on the couch.

02:02:23.880 Do you smell it?

02:02:24.720 Me and Andrew, she is going to come back, but the stipulation is, is that we have to apologize.

02:02:29.600 We are, we are going, we are going to say sorry.

02:02:33.140 What are you guys apologizing for? 0.99

02:02:34.720 For being colonialist, white supremacist, woman-hating. 0.95

02:02:41.500 And then you're going to go through all these videos with her? 0.99

02:02:45.460 What?

02:02:46.160 And then you're going to go through all the stuff with her?

02:02:48.220 Yeah, you know.

02:02:49.540 Let's see what she says.

02:02:50.680 She says she's in the stairs.

02:02:55.480 Oh, maybe she, hold on. 0.89

02:03:00.980 Hold on.

02:03:01.520 Let me think about how we're going to.

02:03:05.240 So.

02:03:10.120 Do you want me to do it?

02:03:13.720 I probably am better at cleaning.

02:03:18.400 It's madness in the studio today.

02:03:21.120 Just hang tight, guys.

02:03:22.740 Sorry.

02:03:23.300 We're going to get it.

02:03:24.740 Yeah.

02:03:29.100 Do you want me to clean it?

02:03:30.280 I made a mess so that Maddie could clean it up because I wanted her to feel like a woman 1.00

02:03:39.700 today.

02:03:40.240 I wanted her to feel like a woman today.

02:03:42.100 Honestly, I haven't felt like a woman today too much, so.

02:03:48.620 It's better if you see me.

02:03:49.300 There's a bunch of, by the way, there's a glass over here.

02:03:51.360 There's a glass by the computer.

02:03:56.280 Is she coming right now?

02:03:57.960 She's in the.

02:04:00.280 I don't know.

02:04:01.980 We need to redo our security.

02:04:03.340 I'm kind of concerned that she's going to do something crazy.

02:04:08.080 Hold on.

02:04:10.980 Take it away, Andrew.

02:04:13.100 Okay.

02:04:14.100 So.

02:04:17.140 This chick. 1.00

02:04:19.740 Fucking crazy. 1.00

02:04:21.500 I did. 0.99

02:04:22.180 I did notice in the.

02:04:24.320 There was like a little exchange.

02:04:25.760 I just happened to glance over Brian doing this exchange.

02:04:28.180 And I, I saw in her text message that she said that she shouldn't have to talk to me

02:04:33.420 because I have absolutely no education.

02:04:37.980 Well, given that she's come today, I'm sure you didn't agree to all of those things.

02:04:44.480 How did you get her to come back?

02:04:46.520 Oh, I mean, there was.

02:04:47.680 I said no to almost all of those.

02:04:49.800 Yeah.

02:04:49.960 And then, and then we came to a determination, which, um, it's, um, sorry, guys, hold tight.

02:04:57.180 Hold tight.

02:04:57.740 She's coming back.

02:04:59.080 No, that was a video call.

02:05:01.020 Oh, my goodness.

02:05:05.740 Yeah.

02:05:08.340 Sorry, guys. 0.99

02:05:08.920 Is everybody, is everybody just spooked that Desiree's going to just pop out like a fucking 0.99

02:05:13.680 brown hog? 1.00

02:05:14.200 Core Head donated 100 times.

02:05:15.960 Check her for weapons.

02:05:18.080 Yeah.

02:05:19.860 Yeah, we will.

02:05:20.660 Yeah, I don't want to get pepper sprayed today.

02:05:22.000 That sounds awful.

02:05:24.220 It's never a good time.

02:05:27.760 Do you want to help clean up that thing?

02:05:30.080 Yeah.

02:05:32.300 Sorry.

02:05:32.740 Sorry.

02:05:33.000 I apologize for the momentary delay here, guys.

02:05:35.680 She is going to come back.

02:05:36.720 We're just dealing with some chaos.

02:05:39.060 Dealing with some other stuff.

02:05:40.540 So, let's get that vacuumed up, though.

02:05:42.860 That's the easiest one.

02:05:43.500 Bad underscore BTCH2 donated $100.

02:05:47.660 If lawsuit fails, we can probably expect Bad B1 TCH2 continuation.

02:05:53.180 That list Maddy's just read will be included in the book as a special supplementary appendix.

02:05:58.560 I mean, off the table.

02:05:59.880 Yeah, off the table.

02:06:00.540 I don't want to.

02:06:00.980 I don't need it on the table.

02:06:02.400 Yeah.

02:06:02.500 By the way, the book is so short that I was able to read it in about, well, most of it.

02:06:09.540 We're about to hear the vacuum.

02:06:10.760 I'm sorry, guys, but.

02:06:11.920 In about 30 minutes, I was able to read both of it.

02:06:13.300 Maddy's going to be doing her domestic, her domestic duties.

02:06:18.040 Maddy is.

02:06:18.720 Missed a spot.

02:06:20.660 There.

02:06:22.900 Sorry for the noise, guys.

02:06:24.200 Sorry for the noise.

02:06:26.260 There's glass on the floor.

02:06:27.560 There's glass on the floor, so we have to clean it up.

02:06:31.360 She is coming back.

02:06:32.380 Let me.

02:06:33.340 Bro.

02:06:40.560 Man.

02:06:42.060 Wild time in the whatever studio today, Brian.

02:06:45.080 Wild time today.

02:06:47.320 So we should put the camera on Maddy so you guys can see her vacuuming. 0.98

02:06:50.820 That's probably more entertaining than just watching two middle-aged just sitting here 0.99

02:07:00.100 at the table.

02:07:02.020 Cheers.

02:07:04.560 Can we put the camera on Maddy?

02:07:06.000 She's doing a great job.

02:07:09.160 Oh.

02:07:11.800 Yeah.

02:07:12.220 We should play with that maybe.

02:07:13.700 I don't know.

02:07:14.680 Hold on.

02:07:17.880 Jeez. 0.99

02:07:18.280 It's just like a bunch of shit happened all at once. 0.99

02:07:23.520 But I think they're getting it under control. 0.99

02:07:25.200 This chick's going to come back for round two maybe. 1.00

02:07:31.380 I say.

02:07:33.300 I say we finish.

02:07:34.620 Got to finish.

02:07:35.440 Right?

02:07:35.660 We have to finish.

02:07:36.860 Can't.

02:07:39.260 Can't just let it end like that.

02:07:42.260 Right?

02:07:42.620 We got to let it finish.

02:07:48.280 It's a big to-do.

02:07:59.040 Are you serious?

02:08:04.020 We're talking about it.

02:08:10.800 W-whatever podcast.

02:08:12.200 All right.

02:08:14.920 Let's color commentate this.

02:08:17.860 All right.

02:08:18.280 There she is.

02:08:18.840 Look at the technique.

02:08:20.320 Solid.

02:08:21.540 You're out of frame.

02:08:24.900 Keep going.

02:08:25.820 Just keep going.

02:08:26.400 We're color.

02:08:26.760 We're commentating.

02:08:28.860 Ooh.

02:08:29.220 A bit of a fail there.

02:08:32.040 Letting the wire drag.

02:08:33.380 A true, you know, look.

02:08:34.760 She's a little flustered with the vacuuming.

02:08:37.380 But she's doing great.

02:08:38.260 Look at the technique.

02:08:39.100 As you can see, she's right-handed.

02:08:40.840 Oh, she's double fisting it. 0.97

02:08:42.460 Double fisting the vacuum and the broom.

02:08:44.320 Let's see what she can do. 0.99

02:08:45.560 Great job.

02:08:46.200 Moving the chair way under the couch.

02:08:48.460 To the urinated on the couch.

02:08:49.760 Right foot.

02:08:50.060 A little caught up on that chair, Brian.

02:08:51.560 Urinated the couch.

02:08:52.520 The couch was urinated on.

02:08:53.800 Who knows what happened?

02:08:54.840 Look at that.

02:08:55.480 Great technique.

02:08:56.160 You know, that cord technique.

02:09:01.040 She really doesn't have that cord wrap, Brian.

02:09:03.960 I think she needs to do something about that cord wrap. 1.00

02:09:09.800 You know, the great thing, though, is due to her height, she's closer to the ground. 0.99

02:09:13.760 So she's at the velocity of the vacuum.

02:09:16.760 It's really good.

02:09:17.880 You know, unfortunately, this vacuum is not the top of the line vacuum.

02:09:20.940 Oh, for sure.

02:09:21.260 I'm not saying not one of the top players in the field, Brian.

02:09:23.540 Most certainly one of the top players.

02:09:24.880 But, not perfect.

02:09:28.760 Not perfect technique.

02:09:31.740 I've seen better.

02:09:33.060 Unfortunately, we can't quite see.

02:09:35.900 Looks like another camera.

02:09:37.500 Oh, there's producer.

02:09:39.220 Oh, okay.

02:09:39.960 All right.

02:09:40.540 Nick's cutting it off.

02:09:41.560 She's went over on her time for the...

02:09:44.700 I would give that a 7.5 out of 10.

02:09:47.460 I'm going to go with a 6.

02:09:48.740 I really think you're being a little bit too charitable.

02:09:51.520 Oh, she's back at it.

02:09:52.740 She won't take no for an answer.

02:09:54.500 She's back at the vacuuming, folks.

02:09:56.160 Look at the technique.

02:09:57.180 Fantastic.

02:09:57.320 Well, I'm going to have to reappraise now that I understand that there's a little bit more determination going on here, Brian.

02:10:05.220 I don't think we...

02:10:06.160 Well, there she is. 0.87

02:10:16.360 How do you color commentate vacuuming?

02:10:22.420 I feel like we did it.

02:10:23.640 We did pretty good.

02:10:24.440 I feel like we did it, yeah.

02:10:26.320 Now, Maddie does tend to prefer the back and forth technique. 1.00

02:10:29.440 I'm more...

02:10:30.240 You know, I find the...

02:10:32.080 Notice, too, the real pros can do this in such a way where it's just one sweep and done.

02:10:39.820 I noticed she did go over certain areas.

02:10:41.620 That really cost her a lot of time, Brian.

02:10:44.820 You know, it did.

02:10:45.620 It did.

02:10:45.920 But sometimes the way she was doing it, it can be a bit more effective, you know, just going over one spot over and over again instead of kind of doing...

02:10:52.080 The vacuum also is not the greatest, so I've got to go back and forth, you know.

02:11:00.020 Player excuse making, Brian.

02:11:01.480 We'll get sucked up the first time.

02:11:07.180 Yeah. 0.72

02:11:07.820 Yeah.

02:11:08.100 Can you sweep a bit, too, Maddie?

02:11:09.340 Now we're moving into the sweeping.

02:11:11.560 The sweeping...

02:11:12.500 What are the terms for them?

02:11:16.960 We actually do need to sweep.

02:11:18.880 We need to, like, ramp.

02:11:22.080 Well, I'm going to have to start the sweep technique at a two. 0.89

02:11:25.340 It's fantastic.

02:11:26.620 Not doing so hot on the last part of the sweep up.

02:11:30.080 That's really bad form.

02:11:32.140 Usually, you angle the broom up with one hand.

02:11:35.020 Well, I feel like we've got to be positive.

02:11:36.700 All right, Maddie.

02:11:38.640 Now, she absolutely demolished the regional competition when she was competing in the sweep-a-thon and the vacuum pro.

02:11:46.480 And there's Nick there with the...

02:11:48.880 There he is.

02:11:50.340 Look at that.

02:11:50.900 Strong technique.

02:11:52.580 Double...

02:11:52.940 He's got...

02:11:53.440 He uses the two-finger on the spray bottle.

02:11:56.080 That's really good.

02:11:57.140 And we've got Maddie over there. 1.00

02:11:58.200 She's just kind of taking a break.

02:11:59.740 Not really doing anything.

02:12:00.920 Not really helping, you know, of course.

02:12:03.240 I noticed that Nick is using the patented Rachel Wilson technique.

02:12:06.820 Where you get right down and scrub the entire floor surface.

02:12:11.820 Barry, it was well done.

02:12:13.160 It was great.

02:12:13.740 It was great.

02:12:14.260 It was well done.

02:12:14.540 Yes, well done.

02:12:15.140 You know, look, it's her first participation in the domestic duties competition here in the Whatever Podcast.

02:12:23.800 But I think for her first showing, she really did put on quite a show.

02:12:26.980 I think she, you know, many years to come, she'll be...

02:12:29.680 This is an annual event.

02:12:31.040 She can only improve from here, Brian.

02:12:32.280 Only improve from here.

02:12:33.560 So we do want to bow our fedoras to her and just...

02:12:40.220 Sorry, I'm not good at this.

02:12:43.400 Cleaning Olympics, folks.

02:12:44.720 But I do comment on how well others can do housework.

02:13:07.440 Wait, I should have probably been checking on Desiree here.

02:13:10.000 Guys, she's coming back.

02:13:11.720 She's coming back.

02:13:12.560 Let's see.

02:13:12.860 Where is she?

02:13:14.720 Robert donated $100.

02:13:20.760 Where did Gustavo go?

02:13:23.120 He was super cute.

02:13:24.880 Also, can Andrew Wilson perform an exorcism live on air?

02:13:29.140 Desiree needs one.

02:13:30.740 She's totally possessed.

02:13:32.420 All right, do you guys want to get her back now?

02:13:36.220 Can we...

02:13:36.740 You guys want to get her back?

02:13:39.640 I'm going to...

02:13:40.360 We do need to redo security protocols.

02:13:46.220 She's still inside of the stairs? 0.96

02:13:47.360 Yeah.

02:13:47.860 She's not done with her? 1.00

02:13:49.500 I think she's still in the stair hall.

02:13:52.100 Okay.

02:13:55.640 Okay, boys.

02:13:56.620 All right.

02:13:58.740 Okay.

02:13:59.140 Well, I'm glad to see a lot of you have stayed.

02:14:03.560 I know that, you know, we had the Cleaning Olympics there.

02:14:07.200 But, so we will see them coming back through here in just a moment.

02:14:13.300 Let me move this year.

02:14:13.680 Very typical show intermission, Brian.

02:14:15.400 Very typical.

02:14:16.080 Let me hear it.

02:14:16.520 Let me do this for a sec.

02:14:17.660 One sec.

02:14:18.120 I'll be back.

02:14:19.500 It's just me alone with Kiki.

02:14:21.480 That's it.

02:14:22.040 Me alone with Kiki in the chat.

02:14:23.460 What's going on with whatever chat?

02:14:24.660 How are you doing?

02:14:25.480 Nice to see all of you again.

02:14:26.940 Still here for some epic debates all week.

02:14:29.000 Going into next week, I'll be on the Sunday and then Tuesday show.

02:14:33.440 And then finally heading back home.

02:14:36.400 Got to do that good Crucible content.

02:14:39.400 But I do appreciate all of you guys turning out for these episodes.

02:14:43.200 They've been a lot of fun. 0.96

02:14:44.560 Got to admit, that last one, that last Tuesday show, was a fucking great show. 0.98

02:14:48.320 That was a great show. 0.98

02:14:49.500 A lot of fun to do.

02:14:51.140 It was a very good show.

02:14:52.260 Low Palin, it's good to see in the chat.

02:14:53.580 Robert Gustavo, he's just no longer, I think he moved.

02:15:00.220 He's just not working with us anymore, unfortunately.

02:15:03.540 But I wish him the best.

02:15:05.920 Let me see if there's any chats here I can pull up.

02:15:07.780 In the meantime, we had Bikini Vacuum. 0.96

02:15:11.740 It'd be interesting to do like a, would you ever do like a pool?

02:15:15.980 Like if we did the whatever dating talk show, but it was like a pool edition?

02:15:22.220 You wouldn't do that?

02:15:22.960 No.

02:15:23.580 I don't really want to be around, you know, I am happily married, don't really want to 0.96

02:15:27.100 be around a bunch of half-naked chicks. 1.00

02:15:28.580 What if, what if I, they're in burkinis? 1.00

02:15:31.840 What the hell is a burkini? 1.00

02:15:33.180 You don't know what a burkini is?

02:15:34.960 Like one pieces?

02:15:36.500 No.

02:15:36.680 I don't know.

02:15:37.220 Like, you know what a burk is? 1.00

02:15:38.200 It's bad enough at the fucking table, dude. 1.00

02:15:40.280 Some of them come in already, like just, yeah. 1.00

02:15:43.940 I don't know.

02:15:44.560 I have some thresholds, you know?

02:15:46.460 That's fair.

02:15:47.040 Have some thresholds.

02:15:47.860 That's fair.

02:15:48.720 I was like trying to kind of like offer up the burkini stream, but it's okay.

02:15:55.760 Thank you guys for all the super chats.

02:15:57.240 Sorry.

02:15:57.620 They're, I guess, trying to, we're getting Desiree back in.

02:16:01.160 This guy's like, it's not about you, Andrew.

02:16:04.720 It's true.

02:16:05.400 Look, he can do those streams.

02:16:06.460 That's fine.

02:16:06.980 I'm not, I'm not upset about it.

02:16:10.020 Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun.

02:16:15.280 Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun.

02:16:24.600 Cable donated $100.

02:16:27.300 Real-time proof that men are also better than women at cleaning. 0.99

02:16:31.520 Double unique.

02:16:32.660 Madison, I expected your commitment to at least match Nick's three out of ten.

02:16:38.440 Be better.

02:16:40.120 He honestly did do a lot better than I did.

02:16:56.220 I'm going to take it back.

02:17:01.160 I need to reset.

02:17:03.320 You had to come back anyway, because you left your cup.

02:17:05.480 I did.

02:17:06.660 How's the focus looking Nick?

02:17:21.780 Is it okay?

02:17:22.280 Or does it need to be readjusted?

02:17:31.040 Hello?

02:17:31.440 Just in case the...

02:17:35.440 Yeah.

02:17:42.560 Focus looks okay.

02:17:44.420 I'll come back and check it once Maddie's here.

02:17:48.160 Okay.

02:17:48.800 So as promised,

02:17:49.980 I'm sorry I made you feel that way.

02:18:02.320 Made me feel what way?

02:18:03.480 Unsafe in your psychological space.

02:18:13.080 Is that?

02:18:14.760 To be honest, I don't care that much about myself.

02:18:18.020 I just...

02:18:19.260 I've done...

02:18:19.520 Wait, wait, wait.

02:18:19.880 Can we not...

02:18:20.520 Can we not do that?

02:18:22.080 No.

02:18:22.620 I am who I am.

02:18:23.920 If you can't handle the crying, I can go.

02:18:26.080 I understand.

02:18:26.860 It's not a guy's thing.

02:18:28.080 I get it.

02:18:29.060 But I have spent my whole life studying a very particular part of life.

02:18:37.040 And it's trauma healing.

02:18:38.540 And it's very important to me.

02:18:39.880 And I'm not willing to let my platform be degraded by somebody who doesn't even have a degree in psychology or anything he's talking about.

02:18:46.860 So at least promote yourself as not an expert and me as an expert, at least in this one field that I actually am an expert in.

02:18:57.280 And if I can't be respected as the expert in a particular field, which I will shrink down to trauma healing.

02:19:06.400 Trauma healing.

02:19:07.580 That's what I'm an expert at.

02:19:09.400 Trauma healing.

02:19:10.600 Okay.

02:19:11.100 If I can be respected as an expert, an expert in extreme trauma healing, and you're not, if I can be respected as that, at least, then we might be able to have conversations.

02:19:34.100 Okay.

02:19:34.480 Can I have you elaborate on what a trauma healer is?

02:19:38.320 Yes.

02:19:38.680 Because I can help people take the most extreme traumas.

02:19:46.520 And I know how to help them transform it into something good and release it from their body in the sense that it no longer causes them suffering.

02:19:59.000 Okay.

02:20:01.060 Is, and I just want to be clear on this so I understand.

02:20:05.720 And the idea of assisting people with what you're calling trouble.

02:20:12.040 Well, first, let's start with what is.

02:20:13.120 I wasn't looking for this.

02:20:14.300 I was looking for an apology that you exerted yourself as any sort of expert in the field that I'm literally.

02:20:21.540 I didn't say I was an expert.

02:20:21.660 The way that you are using your linguistics is very degrading.

02:20:30.580 Yeah, but that's an emotional state, right?

02:20:33.100 It doesn't matter if it's emotional or not.

02:20:35.320 Literally, people are making their choices based off of emotion.

02:20:38.500 Reap what you so donated $99.

02:20:41.920 I think it's not psychopaths.

02:20:43.820 Not psychopaths.

02:20:44.320 From crying to normal in .025 seconds, but claims to be genuine.

02:20:49.280 Also, coming from a professional in psychology, you do more harm than good.

02:20:54.500 All you learned was manipulation.

02:20:56.240 Yeah, so let's just, why don't we just, you want to just do the apology and then I can get back into my.

02:21:03.020 It just goes like this, Andrew.

02:21:04.760 I'm sorry, Desiree.

02:21:05.800 You know a lot more in the subject of trauma healing than I do.

02:21:09.520 And I will submit to that. 0.98

02:21:11.240 Now, let's move on to a different fucking subject that's actually entertaining to people. 0.98

02:21:16.280 Because we've been having the same conversation like over and over and over again in different ways. 0.99

02:21:21.720 And I'm fucking done with it. 0.97

02:21:23.100 So let's move on to geopolitics or something else. 0.99

02:21:27.040 Okay, we can move on to geopolitics.

02:21:28.680 I think Andrew will give you the apology.

02:21:33.260 There's a bit extra asks there.

02:21:35.300 I'm not sure he's going to be able to give.

02:21:38.580 Look, I'll give you the apology.

02:21:39.660 I'm sorry you feel this way.

02:21:43.500 That's not an apology.

02:21:45.680 What do you mean?

02:21:46.560 Yes, it is.

02:21:47.200 You didn't repair the damage.

02:21:48.840 While Paladins donated $100.

02:21:50.860 The fake tears stopped as fast as they started.

02:21:55.060 Evil manipulator. 0.99

02:21:56.800 Sociopath. 0.98

02:21:58.020 Stay strong, men. 0.88

02:21:59.720 Don't white knight overcome your genetic programming.

02:22:03.460 Okay.

02:22:04.460 Well, I'm sorry that you have an inability to have an emotional control while we have a conversation. 1.00

02:22:10.980 I'm sorry that you're psychotic and a lunatic. 1.00

02:22:13.160 Wait, no, no, no. 1.00

02:22:13.700 I'm sorry that you're about as wise as, you know.

02:22:20.080 Okay, okay.

02:22:21.120 Because anyway, I'm sorry you feel that way.

02:22:23.380 So there we go.

02:22:24.060 I'll get it.

02:22:24.380 No, I'll do it.

02:22:24.860 Okay.

02:22:25.980 I'm sorry, Desiree.

02:22:27.900 Desiree.

02:22:28.600 If I'm going to apologize, you've got to look me in the eyes.

02:22:30.220 That's fair, right?

02:22:31.060 If I apologize, will you look me?

02:22:33.400 I apologize.

02:22:34.280 I'm sorry.

02:22:34.600 Is that...

02:22:41.600 Pegasus 25 donated $100. 1.00

02:22:47.900 Being a paid prostitute isn't degrading to this piece of shit. 1.00

02:22:51.960 By the way, bimbo, that email proves that you're mentally ill and your children need to be rescued. 1.00

02:22:58.320 You are not a mental health expert. 1.00

02:23:01.820 Okay.

02:23:02.340 Can you imagine the hubris of somebody who sexually batters you and then demands you apologize to them?

02:23:07.920 Can you imagine the hubris of a person like that? 0.89

02:23:11.040 Like, and I'm the psychopath?

02:23:14.200 Hold on, Desiree.

02:23:15.320 Hold on, hold on, hold on.

02:23:16.160 No, I'll walk out.

02:23:17.420 I'll walk.

02:23:18.040 I'll walk over there and let you guys have a convo.

02:23:19.900 Let me have a little convo.

02:23:20.920 Andrew's going to take a break.

02:23:22.280 Andrew's going to take a break.

02:23:23.320 It's okay.

02:23:24.460 Desiree.

02:23:25.120 Desiree.

02:23:26.040 Are we...

02:23:26.520 Are you my Caucasian?

02:23:29.280 Desiree?

02:23:30.600 Are we homies?

02:23:32.340 Are we homies?

02:23:33.640 Are you going to protect me?

02:23:35.680 I...

02:23:36.480 Do you want me to smack Andrew around a bit?

02:23:38.480 Is that...

02:23:38.820 Yes.

02:23:39.600 I do.

02:23:41.460 He's really inappropriate.

02:23:42.780 Well, he's also my Caucasian.

02:23:44.080 I can't smack him around, but I can...

02:23:45.800 You can.

02:23:46.260 You actually can.

02:23:47.760 I'm not at liberty to do that, and also...

02:23:50.180 You can.

02:23:50.780 Are you a man?

02:23:51.460 I identify as a man.

02:23:54.520 Okay.

02:23:54.920 So your job is literally to protect me.

02:23:58.660 I...

02:23:59.060 I...

02:23:59.340 But I need to protect Andrew too.

02:24:00.780 Why?

02:24:01.200 He can't protect himself?

02:24:02.420 He clearly can.

02:24:04.360 Look...

02:24:04.760 I can't.

02:24:05.420 I literally can't.

02:24:06.380 Andrew has a very strong handshake.

02:24:08.700 If I were to...

02:24:09.440 He might... 0.99

02:24:09.880 Don't bullshit me. 0.99

02:24:10.920 I literally cannot... 0.99

02:24:11.800 He has a strong...

02:24:12.060 He does have a strong handshake.

02:24:12.440 I cannot protect myself emotionally from this man.

02:24:16.040 It would be your responsibility to protect me emotionally.

02:24:19.160 If you're not going to do it, I can't stay.

02:24:20.840 I'm doing it.

02:24:21.260 I told him to go in to take a smoke.

02:24:23.140 Okay.

02:24:23.560 So are you going to keep protecting me?

02:24:25.960 I...

02:24:26.600 Yes.

02:24:27.920 Do you promise?

02:24:28.840 Do I have your word that you will keep protecting me?

02:24:31.960 I'll try my best.

02:24:34.280 That's all...

02:24:35.040 I have shared a lot of personal information about myself.

02:24:39.920 I think you know what is important to me at this point.

02:24:43.180 It's not that hard to say, will you protect the things that are important to me?

02:24:48.760 Yeah.

02:24:50.280 Yes.

02:24:50.880 But we need to establish boundaries for everybody.

02:24:53.460 So when it came to like the topics you didn't want to come up, you went immediately and attacked

02:24:58.860 Andrew.

02:24:59.720 And the thing is like...

02:25:01.320 Because you're making me because you're not protecting me. 0.98

02:25:04.360 You need to protect me from the ridiculous things that this man is saying. 0.93

02:25:08.640 To innocent minds. 0.95

02:25:11.160 We have a responsibility, Brian.

02:25:13.640 There are innocent minds watching this.

02:25:17.620 We cannot allow this man...

02:25:19.540 There's a couple Coomers. 1.00

02:25:21.060 I understand.

02:25:21.900 I understand. 1.00

02:25:22.540 There's some idiots. 1.00

02:25:23.180 Protected donated $100. 1.00

02:25:24.500 A couple Coomers. 1.00

02:25:24.940 Maddie is going to protect you both.

02:25:27.340 Chill.

02:25:29.160 Yeah.

02:25:29.800 Maddie is like pretty strong. 0.99

02:25:32.120 Like...

02:25:32.840 Maddie, are you...

02:25:34.240 You said you're Hmong and Thai?

02:25:36.620 Just Hmong. 1.00

02:25:37.320 Oh, just Hmong. 1.00

02:25:37.920 Yeah.

02:25:38.760 Yeah.

02:25:40.740 Anyways.

02:25:42.220 So...

02:25:42.940 I need to feel protected.

02:25:44.980 I...

02:25:45.340 It's very important to me.

02:25:47.640 Did you see how I...

02:25:48.440 Did you see how I called him off?

02:25:49.960 Yes, and I appreciate that.

02:25:51.120 I was protecting...

02:25:52.120 But you waited until I literally felt so unsafe I had to leave.

02:25:56.280 I don't know why you guys have to go through this again. 0.90

02:25:58.840 It's obvious that she's mentally unstable. 0.92

02:26:01.100 It's ironic that she calls herself trauma healer while causing the same trauma herself. 1.00

02:26:07.260 She's sick. 0.99

02:26:08.740 So anyways...

02:26:09.940 Can we go back?

02:26:13.020 I did want to go back.

02:26:14.080 In the email you sent me, you said you have the personas like Eminem, Slim Shady, Marshall Mathers.

02:26:19.080 And you said it's a thing for us, like the personas thing. 0.95

02:26:23.060 It's a thing for us, genius, black, ghetto, slave souls inside sexy white bodies. 1.00

02:26:28.960 What do you want to know about it? 0.99

02:26:36.100 I was just...

02:26:37.140 Like, do you identify as black?

02:26:40.620 I identify as very complex and very misunderstood because of my external appearance.

02:26:50.160 No, I know.

02:26:50.500 But like, do you identify as a black woman?

02:26:55.740 No.

02:26:56.900 Native American.

02:26:57.580 I identify more with a Native American construct, yes. 0.99

02:27:02.520 Just because in the email you said black ghetto slave soul inside sexy white body. 1.00

02:27:08.240 Well, if you want to go into how I was raised, I was raised to be a sex slave. 1.00

02:27:12.360 Well, that's... 0.99

02:27:13.000 Hold on.

02:27:14.180 But I'm more focused on the black part.

02:27:17.940 Brian, to be honest with you, you don't have the depth of understanding for me to go into that.

02:27:24.000 So let's just skip over that and let's just go to something else.

02:27:27.320 I agree.

02:27:27.860 I think we should move on.

02:27:32.860 In some emails, there was...

02:27:35.840 Was you, for a $200 TTS, you wanted to kiss?

02:27:43.700 Or was it $100?

02:27:44.700 I was trying to come up with playful games that we could play to keep things more light and connecting because those things create a sense of safety for me.

02:27:55.240 And as if we are, even though we might be, you know, disagreeing with each other and having...

02:28:03.660 Those are the types of things that help me feel safe with men.

02:28:06.680 So it's more of a playful thing.

02:28:08.560 Like, I have no problem, you know, having this energy of intellect or competitiveness or egos or things like that.

02:28:17.880 The back and forth banter.

02:28:19.200 But I need to feel like it's a playful thing.

02:28:22.420 If I don't feel like it's playful, then I take it as a malicious attack.

02:28:26.900 And again, I'm going to repeat, it's not so much about protecting me.

02:28:31.120 It's about protecting my platform that I've worked literally my entire life to master a particular, very particular area.

02:28:43.980 I was just...

02:28:45.080 You said for a $200 TTS that we would kiss closed mouth.

02:28:49.340 But $500, we would French kiss.

02:28:52.320 Why are you bringing this up, Brian?

02:28:53.700 Are you planning on doing it?

02:28:56.500 No.

02:28:57.100 Then why are you bringing it up?

02:28:58.160 I don't consent.

02:28:58.860 Then why are you bringing it up?

02:29:00.720 No, just trying to lighten the mood.

02:29:03.380 Just trying to lighten the mood a little bit.

02:29:05.960 All right.

02:29:06.840 Yeah.

02:29:12.020 I'll do it for a Bitcoin.

02:29:14.360 One?

02:29:15.300 A Bitcoin.

02:29:16.500 That costs like $2?

02:29:19.600 So you went from $200?

02:29:21.000 No, Bitcoin's like $60K.

02:29:22.460 A Bitcoin?

02:29:24.020 Okay.

02:29:24.360 $60K.

02:29:24.700 I'm thinking of something else then.

02:29:26.460 All right.

02:29:26.780 Like, I'll do it.

02:29:27.680 Like, I have to.

02:29:28.540 I get the Bitcoin.

02:29:29.700 Okay.

02:29:30.860 I get it.

02:29:31.540 I'll like cut you an ETH.

02:29:33.000 Like one ETH Ethereum.

02:29:34.620 I don't know.

02:29:34.880 I think that's like $2 or $3K right now.

02:29:36.580 I don't know what that means.

02:29:37.380 I mean, like, if we were...

02:29:39.920 Somebody might do it.

02:29:42.160 Send a Bitcoin.

02:29:43.020 Send a Bitcoin.

02:29:43.860 I give her an Ethereum.

02:29:45.400 What's an Ethereum?

02:29:46.420 I don't even know what that is.

02:29:46.920 It's cryptocurrency.

02:29:48.000 Okay.

02:29:48.360 For the...

02:29:49.640 I need two Bitcoin for, like, French kiss, though.

02:29:54.580 Definitely two Bitcoin for...

02:29:57.740 I'll do closed mouth kiss, though, for one Bitcoin.

02:30:02.120 Anyways.

02:30:02.540 Beaten Cheeks donated $99 and 99 cents.

02:30:09.400 What type of misogynistic podcast did I just tune into?

02:30:13.560 Brian, Andrew, why can you not be men and protect this poor woman from your words?

02:30:19.080 Also, Carmela 2024.

02:30:21.960 America is ready for her. 0.94

02:30:23.740 Hashtag trans women are women. 0.96

02:30:26.300 Hey, hey, Cheeks. 0.98

02:30:27.660 What?

02:30:28.180 Hey, Cheeks. 1.00

02:30:32.200 Yeah, it's...

02:30:32.940 Thank you, man.

02:30:33.660 Appreciate it.

02:30:35.660 Kamala 2024.

02:30:40.400 Fight the man.

02:30:46.420 Andrew feels unsafe around you.

02:30:48.100 I'm feeling...

02:30:48.580 I feel unsafe.

02:30:49.760 I feel unsafe around you.

02:30:51.540 You weapons instructor, you.

02:30:55.400 You...

02:30:56.160 This is MAGA country. 0.61

02:30:57.420 We'll get...

02:30:58.280 Here, should we do a hand comparison?

02:31:01.980 Okay.

02:31:02.840 All right.

02:31:07.380 Let's get...

02:31:08.380 Now, you sent us some interesting DMs.

02:31:10.700 I just wanted to, like, get into the DMs, I guess, because they were kind of interesting.

02:31:14.340 There's a lot.

02:31:15.520 I hope we can get through all of them.

02:31:17.500 I'm not really interested in discussing our private conversations.

02:31:20.660 Let's move on to social commentary or other things like that.

02:31:23.260 Well, I think the DMs are...

02:31:26.260 It's personal information.

02:31:28.940 Well, I mean, you were also threatening me with filing a lawsuit.

02:31:32.540 It wasn't a threat.

02:31:33.400 It was a court-mediated process that I have to take.

02:31:38.220 No, you said you would go file a class action lawsuit against me.

02:31:41.600 Because I have to.

02:31:42.360 If this wasn't going to be a restitution show, because I'm now in a custody situation because

02:31:47.440 of the last show.

02:31:48.200 Yeah, but you said you got 100% custody because of it.

02:31:51.660 Well, I had to take 100% custody because after that situation, my ex escalated in his...

02:31:59.320 Yeah, but didn't that work out well for you?

02:32:01.620 No, because...

02:32:03.200 Do you want to understand the situation?

02:32:07.440 Intel Wilde donated $100. 0.98

02:32:10.220 Jesus, this chick is batshit crazy. 1.00

02:32:13.580 Andrew, please call up the Santa Barbara PD and report the SA charge. 0.98

02:32:18.660 Giant tell to the University of Irvine.

02:32:20.920 Okay, but I'm not going to do that if you apologize.

02:32:29.180 Apologize for what?

02:32:30.560 For the sexual battery.

02:32:32.080 I'm sorry.

02:32:33.060 Sorry for what?

02:32:33.940 That I made you feel sexually battered. 0.94

02:32:36.020 Oh, so...

02:32:37.660 I mean, if that's the apology...

02:32:41.100 It's the same apology that you gave me.

02:32:43.840 But you said that that was an unacceptable apology.

02:32:46.560 Well, you reap what you sow, so I'm not going to give you a more sincere apology than you.

02:32:49.620 Well, then if we're doing you reap as you sow, and you don't want me to move over to Christian ethics,

02:32:54.640 where I usually don't do eye for an eye, and I'm usually a pretty forgiving person, just let things go.

02:33:00.380 Right? 1.00

02:33:01.440 I'm sorry that I put my beautiful ass in your lap. 1.00

02:33:05.080 Ugh. 1.00

02:33:06.300 I'm really sorry that that made you uncomfortable.

02:33:09.040 Kristen ate it $100.

02:33:11.360 Please call CPS and take her children away from her.

02:33:14.760 They should play this entire podcast to the judge when deciding custody.

02:33:19.620 I just left you a one-star review on Amazon for her book, Everyone Do It.

02:33:24.580 No.

02:33:25.740 That's...

02:33:26.220 We're not going to...

02:33:26.980 We're not going to... 0.99

02:33:27.700 We're not going to do shit like that. 0.97

02:33:29.520 So, the thing is, that's remarkably actually unhelpful in all ways. 0.97

02:33:33.880 The thing is, is I would like to get into you in a social theory that I have,

02:33:37.780 and I'd like to explain it to you and get your takes, because you are the expert. 0.95

02:33:40.760 Have you ever heard of what's called magic pussy theory? 1.00

02:33:43.700 No. 0.99

02:33:44.960 Magic pussy theory goes like this. 1.00

02:33:46.700 This is considered a highly chauvinistic, I suppose, theory. 0.95

02:33:50.320 I don't think it is.

02:33:52.040 But, essentially, if a woman cannot control you through sexuality, they move to manipulation. 0.96

02:33:56.380 If they can't control you through manipulation, they move over to empathy.

02:34:00.900 So, these are mechanisms of control for...

02:34:03.560 That would be a mechanism of a sociopathic female, yes. 1.00

02:34:08.660 But, haven't you demonstrated all of those traits today?

02:34:12.400 I would say I had to cycle through the toxic version of those things,

02:34:16.960 and I arrived back on a genuine presentation of femininity.

02:34:24.020 But, you started...

02:34:25.360 I have just been simply responding to your toxic masculinity that you've been putting on me.

02:34:30.780 So, I've been trauma-responding with toxic femininity, yes.

02:34:34.920 It's a protective measure.

02:34:36.320 So, then you were acting in a way which you considered to be sociopathic?

02:34:40.620 No, because I wasn't being manipulative with my emotions.

02:34:43.580 But, I will admit to intentional aggression against you, yes.

02:34:48.400 But, my crying and when you touched points of me that made me cry,

02:34:54.100 I wasn't trying to invoke any sort of empathy in you, as clearly you don't have any,

02:34:58.020 and you've stated that many times, and you don't care how I feel.

02:35:00.700 I didn't say...

02:35:01.100 I never stated that I don't have empathy.

02:35:02.320 So, that was not for you.

02:35:02.820 That was just me trying to literally, in real time, process my own trauma

02:35:08.660 so I could move forward with the conversation.

02:35:10.740 Well, you can agree that...

02:35:13.780 And I would agree with you, too, that empathy is important.

02:35:17.360 But, you would have to agree with me that sometimes people will utilize empathy as a weapon...

02:35:23.700 True.

02:35:24.240 ...in order to get you to respond a certain way through manipulation.

02:35:27.220 So, when you say, well, wait a second, Andrew, respond to me this way, right?

02:35:32.740 And I'm going to present myself this way, which looks very manipulative,

02:35:37.760 and then say, well, wait a second, you're not responding with empathy, 0.94

02:35:41.580 so therefore you're a sociopath, something like this.

02:35:44.520 Isn't that kind of textbook manipulation? 0.98

02:35:46.540 Andrew, it can be whatever you...

02:35:54.780 Whatever you need me to say to move along with the conversation, I consent so we can move along.

02:36:02.880 Okay, so you're just going to admit, then, that you've been being extremely manipulative this entire time?

02:36:08.780 Well, that's what you want, correct?

02:36:10.020 Well, I mean, I want you to tell the truth.

02:36:13.860 That's what I want.

02:36:14.740 No, you don't.

02:36:15.960 Yes, I do.

02:36:16.900 I don't agree with you.

02:36:18.680 Well, I mean...

02:36:19.880 So, you can read my mind?

02:36:22.460 I really do.

02:36:23.700 This would have been a totally, really, a really productive conversation.

02:36:26.400 You should go back and look at all of the debates I've done on here, one-on-one.

02:36:29.620 They've always been super respectful.

02:36:30.960 And they've really gone places, which are good places to go. 0.99

02:36:35.520 This one has just literally been a fucking... 0.98

02:36:38.880 Then why are you still here? 0.99

02:36:40.260 Why are you still here talking to me?

02:36:41.100 Because I still think perhaps I can get to some kind of worldview, which we can discuss.

02:36:47.080 I can still hope that, whether we will or not.

02:36:50.400 But if you're just going to obstruct every time we get somewhere, which is productive because you might have to take responsibility,

02:36:57.380 that's no good.

02:36:58.460 So, I'm damned if I do, and I'm damned if I don't, because... 0.88

02:37:03.620 No, you're just damned if you don't. 0.70

02:37:04.660 If you're damned if you refuse to engage, right?

02:37:13.340 Jorge donated $100.

02:37:16.200 Let's be clear.

02:37:17.660 She didn't win custody of her kids. 1.00

02:37:20.340 She's holding them hostage from their dad.

02:37:25.240 Okay.

02:37:26.200 Anyway.

02:37:28.460 So, yeah, that's...

02:37:30.240 That's...

02:37:30.780 I just, you know, I want to get into the aspects because you're kind of a master, right?

02:37:35.980 Doesn't it even stand to reason that if you're a master in psychology and you are an expert in psychology,

02:37:41.320 that you would also be an expert in employing manipulation tactics and psychological tricks

02:37:45.820 in order to get people to empathize with your position?

02:37:49.320 Yes.

02:37:49.960 Yeah.

02:37:50.360 So, I mean, if that's true, there's no reason for me to assume that you haven't been doing that.

02:37:54.920 Okay.

02:37:56.120 Okay.

02:37:57.820 Well, I suppose also to Angie's point, there's been multiple times throughout the conversation

02:38:01.780 where we were talking about the white supremacy stuff, we were talking about your accusations

02:38:07.760 of woman-hating, and instead of engaging, you would just be like, nope, not talking about

02:38:15.680 it, don't want to talk about it.

02:38:17.040 So, I think that's what he's talking about.

02:38:20.160 I'm trying to keep my nervous system regulated so I can keep having a conversation without crying.

02:38:26.180 Okay.

02:38:27.700 All right.

02:38:28.420 Well, what is the...

02:38:31.040 I know that you can't always explain this, but what is the motivation behind the crying?

02:38:36.160 Is it because you feel bad?

02:38:37.600 It's because my heart feels broken in certain moments, and that's all I know how to move

02:38:47.880 forward from that position, is to release it.

02:38:51.660 If I try to hold on to it, it turns into something ugly.

02:38:55.740 So, crying is actually a protective measure to keep me from attacking you in a way that

02:39:04.380 would be mean and malicious.

02:39:06.180 I would rather just take in the pain, release it, and then see if I can regather myself to

02:39:16.720 continue the conversation or see if it's just done and I just need to leave.

02:39:20.900 Well, I think we can continue the conversation.

02:39:23.720 Maybe we can get in a place where both of us have some common ground, right?

02:39:28.420 I have kids, just like you do.

02:39:30.540 With my kids...

02:39:31.280 Biological?

02:39:32.160 Yeah.

02:39:33.840 Biological.

02:39:34.360 How old are they?

02:39:36.520 So, the youngest is...

02:39:39.620 Well, I don't even want to get into their ages, and there's reasons why, but because I

02:39:43.180 have people who are not good people who will weaponize...

02:39:47.080 So, you know how it feels.

02:39:48.240 Do all sorts of...

02:39:49.520 Yeah, I've never weaponized your kids against you, ever.

02:39:51.280 No, I'm saying, though, but that is what happened because of the last show, and that's why I'm

02:39:55.960 in a tough spot.

02:39:57.580 Yeah, I mean...

02:39:58.780 Yeah, I can't...

02:39:59.300 Because my kids got weaponized because of the show.

02:40:01.520 I can't...

02:40:02.240 I'm not responsible for that.

02:40:03.660 I'm not saying that you are, but I am saying that the places that you're leading me are subjecting

02:40:14.060 me and thus my mothering to things that are very traumatic for my children.

02:40:23.280 Yeah, I'm not going to try to do that.

02:40:24.920 That wasn't the example.

02:40:26.260 And I see the allowance of comments coming in still about my children, about CPS, about

02:40:34.080 child abuse, about me being an abuser, and I explicitly asked...

02:40:37.980 I get the same comments.

02:40:39.120 I understand that, but I am actually in an active case because of this exact thing.

02:40:46.640 I've had my house swatted four times.

02:40:48.620 Okay, I get it.

02:40:49.940 No, you don't get it.

02:40:50.940 I've had my house swatted four times.

02:40:52.280 I've had my house swatted two.

02:40:53.500 Had the police call to me multiple times.

02:40:55.340 Same.

02:40:55.740 All for expressing an opinion just like you.

02:40:57.540 Same.

02:40:57.640 We're in the same boat.

02:40:58.420 If you're going to be a public figure, you're going to risk offense, and if you risk offense,

02:41:03.340 sometimes crazy people are going to do bad things to you.

02:41:05.540 That's not my criticism.

02:41:06.600 My criticism is that I did not know that that's what I was getting myself into when I came to

02:41:13.380 the last show.

02:41:14.320 I did not know that that's what I was getting myself into.

02:41:16.680 I genuinely didn't.

02:41:17.720 I was under the impression that I was coming to a dating podcast just to discuss amongst

02:41:24.880 other people what's going on in the dating world.

02:41:28.880 That's literally all I thought.

02:41:30.400 Why would you assume that people would be less likely to have strong emotional opinions

02:41:34.600 about dating than they do anything else?

02:41:36.380 I guess I was sheltered.

02:41:37.820 I just...

02:41:38.360 I didn't...

02:41:39.200 Yeah.

02:41:39.640 People have strong emotional opinions about everything from politics to dating to interpersonal

02:41:44.360 relationships.

02:41:45.060 They have strong opinions about circumcision.

02:41:47.740 They have strong opinions about everything.

02:41:50.300 And if you don't have right think, there's always going to be people who disagree with

02:41:53.540 you and are going to try to do bad things.

02:41:55.940 I feel as if the explicit animosity towards me as a mother and my children was very extreme.

02:42:06.940 But you're the ones that allow the comments or not.

02:42:11.380 They're third parties.

02:42:12.080 You remind people that there are certain trigger things and things that are so toxic you don't

02:42:17.140 allow it.

02:42:18.100 So therefore, I know you have a censoring process, yet you're still letting these comments come

02:42:22.340 in.

02:42:22.500 They come in automatically.

02:42:23.480 So there's no censoring process?

02:42:24.940 So what happens is keywords, which would affect the algorithm, get censored.

02:42:29.600 That's what he's talking about with toxic comments.

02:42:32.320 So if somebody...

02:42:33.200 So you notice how comments are coming through that have particular slurs, which are quite

02:42:36.820 vicious towards women.

02:42:38.100 Those get filtered out.

02:42:39.700 But saying generalized statements like, oh, I think this woman is a bad mother, you can't

02:42:45.100 really do much about those.

02:42:46.300 If you're going to open...

02:42:47.160 If you're going to put yourself on the internet at all and put yourself as a public figure,

02:42:50.800 you are going to risk offending people and they are going to...

02:42:54.580 Sometimes you're going to have bad actors who will do horrible things. 0.96

02:42:58.300 I tend to try my hardest to ignore that myself because I've had people do fucking horrible 0.94

02:43:05.360 things to me. 0.99

02:43:06.500 Horrible.

02:43:07.340 And the thing is, is I don't hold...

02:43:09.800 Even my haters, I don't even hold them responsible because most of my haters aren't so insane that

02:43:16.140 they would take it to that level.

02:43:17.160 Jessica Reloaded donated $100.

02:43:19.400 You are responsible for yourself and what happened on the last show.

02:43:24.560 Take accountability for yourself.

02:43:26.960 Why come back if you felt unsafe?

02:43:29.360 Did you not research the show before you came on the first time?

02:43:33.980 I didn't.

02:43:34.920 That's correct.

02:43:35.680 Well, hold on there.

02:43:36.940 Nick, can you pull up layer six?

02:43:41.560 So this is your very first message to us requesting to be on the show back May 30th of 2024.

02:43:49.400 You're going to have to put this in the corner.

02:43:55.320 Yeah, that's fine.

02:43:56.320 Go ahead.

02:43:58.500 If you want to read it, you can.

02:44:00.000 You can read it back to yourself.

02:44:01.660 I don't have my glasses.

02:44:02.780 I can go get my glasses.

02:44:03.980 Okay.

02:44:04.280 I can't see it.

02:44:04.880 Maddie, can you read it?

02:44:06.240 Yeah.

02:44:06.500 A friend referred me to you guys to join your podcast for a very interesting episode on

02:44:11.460 how I basically solved all of world problems simply by flipping the script of the patriarchy

02:44:16.500 and going back to a system where women do the choosing. 1.00

02:44:20.220 I am a savant, social scientist, OnlyFans model, and a good old American made single mom

02:44:27.080 of three trying to get my bills paid out here in a man's world.

02:44:29.780 So I could really use some exposure to bring in money, and it's just a super interesting topic

02:44:34.320 that I could go on about as it's near and dear to my heart.

02:44:38.820 I mean, so you reached out to us.

02:44:42.300 So that's what I thought that I would be discussing.

02:44:45.320 You did discuss that.

02:44:46.320 But, I mean, the show...

02:44:51.740 I thought it would be respected.

02:44:53.720 What would be respected?

02:44:55.420 My views.

02:44:56.940 Well, we have a panel of people who will provide pre-show notes.

02:45:02.000 Some of the topics that they request to speak on, if it's pertinent to the theme of our show,

02:45:08.000 we'll bring it up.

02:45:09.420 We did bring up quite a bit of some of the things you discussed.

02:45:13.300 Were you under the impression it was going to be a one-on-one interview?

02:45:16.640 Yeah.

02:45:17.960 That's not possible.

02:45:19.080 I didn't know that it was a panel show.

02:45:20.560 I mean, every single clip...

02:45:22.640 I didn't watch any of the clips.

02:45:23.960 I honestly didn't know anything about the show, and I do take responsibility.

02:45:27.060 Well, that's entirely on you.

02:45:28.180 I know.

02:45:28.560 I understand.

02:45:29.200 On the very Instagram that you sent us a DM to requesting to be on the show,

02:45:34.580 there are clips on that Instagram.

02:45:36.180 We don't post a bunch.

02:45:37.540 There are clips indicating that it's a panel show.

02:45:40.120 There's multiple people on the panel.

02:45:41.080 Again, I take responsibility for that.

02:45:41.960 You can watch full live streams.

02:45:43.860 I take responsibility.

02:45:44.460 I literally didn't.

02:45:45.280 We don't hide anything with this show.

02:45:46.920 Anybody can just click the first link.

02:45:48.980 I understand.

02:45:49.280 Hold on.

02:45:49.420 You guys, stop interrupting.

02:45:50.860 Anybody can click the first link, go directly to the YouTube channel.

02:45:54.780 At the very top, it's going to show the full live streams.

02:45:57.600 I didn't.

02:45:57.620 I didn't do it.

02:45:58.660 That's on you.

02:45:59.380 I know.

02:46:00.020 I'm saying that it was on me.

02:46:01.940 I'm going to do research.

02:46:03.040 I get it.

02:46:03.440 I'm saying it's on me.

02:46:04.560 That was my bad.

02:46:05.300 Right, but you cannot then blame, you cannot shift the blame on us that you felt like you

02:46:13.220 didn't know what you were getting into.

02:46:15.640 You didn't see one clip?

02:46:18.500 No.

02:46:20.360 I didn't.

02:46:21.300 Not my thing.

02:46:22.020 Well, I mean, you, okay.

02:46:32.020 I mean, I don't remember the, it was a seven or eight hour show.

02:46:36.160 I don't remember everything that was talked about.

02:46:38.720 We talk about various things dating related.

02:46:40.620 Well, she was able to, you did bring up the idea of patriarchy, the reversal, how you're

02:46:45.980 living in a man's world. 0.99

02:46:47.040 You brought up a ton of very interesting psychological ideas.

02:46:51.760 You brought up a lot.

02:46:52.860 It just seems to me like every time you were challenged on them.

02:46:56.480 So what it looks like from my perspective is that I don't mind talking about these ideas.

02:47:02.240 I think that it's fun to talk about ideas like that, but I have noticed this trend and

02:47:06.360 pattern of women who, if their ideas get challenged, they get really upset to the point where they 0.68

02:47:11.680 begin to think that they are personally being attacked rather than the idea they're espousing.

02:47:16.120 And they can't make the delineation between the two.

02:47:18.860 The idea, which I'm saying, and the me, which one is actually being attacked here.

02:47:25.040 And I think it's fine to attack ideas without personally attacking the person.

02:47:29.860 Do you understand that men and women are not built the same?

02:47:34.080 Yes.

02:47:34.680 Okay.

02:47:35.120 So a lot of the problem is I wasn't even designed to have a debate with you.

02:47:43.580 Were you designed to be in politics?

02:47:45.300 No.

02:47:46.260 Were you designed to be in leadership roles?

02:47:48.600 Were you designed to vote?

02:47:50.400 Were you designed to pick the government, which is going to rule people?

02:47:53.500 Were you designed for any of that?

02:47:55.020 No.

02:47:55.580 Well, then why?

02:47:56.720 So then women probably shouldn't participate in any of those avenues, right? 1.00

02:48:01.280 Well, let me clarify.

02:48:02.240 I was designed to take a leadership role.

02:48:06.060 Yes.

02:48:06.360 I do not believe that divine humanity was made to have a government.

02:48:12.060 I don't believe that American governmental structure is divine.

02:48:18.020 I believe that's man-made.

02:48:20.180 Yeah, perhaps it is.

02:48:21.380 But I guess kind of the point and core here is if you think that men and women are different, I agree. 1.00

02:48:28.460 Totally.

02:48:28.760 Hang on.

02:48:28.960 Totally agree.

02:48:29.480 Now, the thing is that men no longer protect women.

02:48:33.180 It's not divine masculinity.

02:48:35.120 I get it.

02:48:35.460 But let me finish my point and then I'll back to you. 0.98

02:48:38.060 If it is true that you think that women are different than men, and I agree that they are, and that women aren't even equipped to have their ideas challenged, they're not actually even equipped to have their ideas challenged, why in the fucking world would we ever let them lead a dog down the street? 1.00

02:48:56.960 No, you're misinterpreting it. 0.93

02:48:59.540 We were not designed to have a man who does not love and respect us.

02:49:04.760 So, for example, you don't know me from anybody.

02:49:07.600 You don't have any emotional connection to me.

02:49:10.400 You don't have any depth of understanding of who I am as a being.

02:49:15.160 So, therefore, I wasn't made to hold you accountable or you weren't made to hold me accountable.

02:49:20.240 You don't even know me.

02:49:21.460 Your own wife should be holding you accountable and putting you in your place if you need that. 1.00

02:49:26.080 Just like my own, the men that know me in my life that, let's just say we have a soul connection, those were the only men that I was designed.

02:49:37.420 Chris donated $100.

02:49:39.880 She wasn't designed to admit when she is wrong.

02:49:43.000 This is her real issue.

02:49:44.740 She can't take an L and admit fault and will lash out. 1.00

02:49:48.260 Put a 1 in the chat if you think her children should be taken away. 0.99

02:49:52.160 Crazy.

02:49:52.520 We don't condone some of the messages that are coming through, by the way.

02:50:00.320 Anyway, go on.

02:50:01.960 Thank you for the TTS, though.

02:50:04.980 We're not operating in a world right now that is going by the rules of divine humanity. 1.00

02:50:10.840 Shit's fucked up. 1.00

02:50:11.660 So, I am simply a woman trying to survive this. 1.00

02:50:20.520 Yeah, I understand that.

02:50:21.500 But I'm also saying that all the actions that you take are interconnected with the actions of the rest of humanity, which do affect my life.

02:50:31.220 Like it or not.

02:50:32.120 Yeah.

02:50:32.640 It does affect my life.

02:50:33.800 True.

02:50:33.940 And so, if you say to me, like, look, Andrew, there needs to be an interpersonal relationship for correction.

02:50:40.340 It's like, that's fair.

02:50:42.240 But there is an interpersonal relationship for correction because, unfortunately, the millions who think like you affect me.

02:50:50.500 Whether I like it or not, they still affect my life.

02:50:53.040 I have never met anybody who thinks like me.

02:50:55.820 Yeah, but the thing is, is that women have political power. 1.00

02:50:59.420 Women can move political go-posts. 1.00

02:51:02.060 But are they actually feminine embodiments? 1.00

02:51:05.780 Or are they just masculine embodiments in a vagina? 1.00

02:51:09.040 If they believe that having any of their worldviews challenged, any of their worldviews challenged, is an assault on them because their feelings must be validated instead of the idea. 0.98

02:51:22.700 That is very feminine in nature. 0.95

02:51:25.820 That is not.

02:51:26.980 That seems to be more in line with how women think than men think by your own admission.

02:51:31.720 So, if that's true, why are we allowing them to ever have a say against men who don't think that way?

02:51:36.580 Well, because there has to be this dance between the emotional part of being human and the structural or logical part of being human.

02:51:47.780 And so, men and women were designed to offer this flow with each other.

02:51:53.460 Okay, that's why feminine energy or women, that's why we have this magnetism to us that men crave. 1.00

02:52:03.880 Because we're so good at channeling the emotions of everything that's going on around us.

02:52:11.620 Lol Paladin's donated $100.

02:52:14.520 I don't believe that she has an active custody case.

02:52:18.280 She's under so many multiple layers of manipulation that I believe she would come here and, like just about it, prevent people from reporting her. 0.91

02:52:25.960 Look, it's not a good idea.

02:52:34.440 Even if you thought she was the worst person on planet Earth, it still wouldn't be a good idea.

02:52:39.140 If you take kids from anybody's home, even if you were able to do it, they almost always have worse outcomes.

02:52:46.420 Even if you left them in a home, which was abusive, they still almost always have worse outcomes.

02:52:51.520 Not a good idea.

02:52:52.740 Don't do it.

02:52:53.780 And don't push for it.

02:52:54.760 It's not a good idea.

02:52:55.700 It's a bad look for the show in general anyway.

02:52:58.640 Anyway, go ahead.

02:52:59.900 Thank you for...

02:53:01.900 Yeah, that's not what I'm...

02:53:03.560 I'm literally just here to discuss the things in your head.

02:53:09.520 That's it.

02:53:10.180 Just the things that are inside of your noodle.

02:53:13.740 And so that's why I started the entirety of our conversation saying,

02:53:16.660 look, I want to tell you what my worldview is and get yours so that you understand what's in here and then I understand what's up there.

02:53:23.140 And then from there, we can have some kind of conversation about those things.

02:53:26.840 I agree with you, for instance, that most people make decisions, even men, general decisions based on emotion.

02:53:33.260 Let me give you some examples.

02:53:34.440 Okay?

02:53:34.700 I really like trucks that are blue.

02:53:37.860 I'm not getting the blue truck because the blue gives some type of like extra sealant or something.

02:53:44.720 There's no practical reason. 0.99

02:53:46.560 I just like that fucking color. 0.99

02:53:48.660 Is that purely emotional? 1.00

02:53:50.080 Yeah.

02:53:50.220 Will it affect my logical decision making when I buy a truck?

02:53:54.180 Would I get some feature on, you know, that that truck wouldn't have?

02:53:58.920 Like maybe it's lug nuts or not the ones I wanted and I will kind of sacrifice that pragmatic thing for this emotional thing?

02:54:06.740 Yeah.

02:54:07.720 Right?

02:54:08.480 So I'm not operating off of pure logic.

02:54:10.640 I understand that.

02:54:11.480 Or pure reason.

02:54:12.600 I get that.

02:54:13.380 There's emotion to the things that men do and the things that women do.

02:54:17.440 However, you still have to be able to make a disassociation between the two when you're making decisions.

02:54:23.900 For instance, if it was the case that I could not get the truck, but only almost everything I wanted except it in blue, I would take that.

02:54:34.340 Right?

02:54:35.100 And so I feel like the distinction here is maybe you wouldn't.

02:54:38.160 That's correct, because I guess I don't care about how something looks on paper.

02:54:52.560 I care about how it feels emotionally to me to live with that decision day in and day out.

02:54:59.200 Right.

02:54:59.320 So if, for example, we're talking about the car situation, I've done this before.

02:55:06.780 I have picked cars like one car on paper has better stats, but the color of the other one is so pretty, it makes me so happy.

02:55:14.760 Sure.

02:55:15.200 So, of course, I'm not making a huge downgrade.

02:55:18.240 Like I'm not buying a lemon versus a certified.

02:55:20.860 But if it comes down to like two certified vehicles, that's what I wanted anyway.

02:55:25.860 But this one has less miles than that one.

02:55:28.460 But the color of this one, we do make those decisions.

02:55:31.020 All the time.

02:55:31.580 To be honest with you, as a woman at this point in life, that's how I want to live my life now, because that's what feels good.

02:55:39.060 At this point, I've lived the duty things.

02:55:41.260 I've gotten the degrees.

02:55:42.320 I've done all the things that I was supposed to do.

02:55:44.860 And what I found was that wasn't creating a sense of aliveness in me.

02:55:50.040 BBB donated $100.

02:55:52.500 You proved that you had prior knowledge. 0.93

02:55:54.960 She was mentally ill and you bring her on anyway. 1.00

02:55:57.980 Nice. 0.95

02:55:58.380 That sums up the whatever podcast.

02:56:01.180 Brian, you think it's a coincidence your audience and chat is so vile?

02:56:06.180 Yeah. 1.00

02:56:06.740 So to answer your question, BBB, basically every woman that I see in modernity is mentally ill. 0.95

02:56:12.940 What makes her different? 0.98

02:56:14.860 Anyway, go ahead.

02:56:17.460 I mean, I think I, there was a point in my life where I operated more with my logical structures.

02:56:24.440 And I valued the logical over the emotional.

02:56:27.960 Sure.

02:56:28.700 But like I said, especially becoming a mother and dealing with the gray areas.

02:56:33.360 Before I had my kids, I thought I had everything figured out.

02:56:36.340 I thought it was like A plus B equals C.

02:56:38.960 Very linear.

02:56:39.620 You do these certain things, you get this certain outcome.

02:56:42.360 But what I found in just getting older and having perspective, different perspective, is I started learning.

02:56:49.640 I got humbled, I guess you could say.

02:56:51.700 And I started learning, you know what?

02:56:53.160 It doesn't feel right.

02:56:53.640 It doesn't feel right.

02:56:57.940 It doesn't feel good.

02:56:59.580 And so I started leaning more towards following that internal guidance system.

02:57:05.060 That gut feeling, that sparkle, that pizzazz, that I started allowing my emotions to thaw out, is what my therapist would say.

02:57:16.320 Because I always was experiencing myself as very stoic, monotone, they would say with my autism, that was the presentation of a monotone.

02:57:25.600 Like I did not have such a dynamic presentation or personality because I was so afraid of showing or following my heart, following my emotions.

02:57:38.880 Because I had been taught that the logical mind was more important than the physical experience of the body.

02:57:48.200 And all I have discovered is that it's at least equal.

02:57:53.640 We should at least be giving equal.

02:57:55.540 Yeah, I think we have emotional responses.

02:57:58.040 But I guess, and we should.

02:58:00.500 We should have emotional responses.

02:58:01.920 Because the body doesn't lie, but the mind does.

02:58:05.380 So the heart does too.

02:58:08.420 The heart only lies if it has so much trauma.

02:58:11.720 It's trauma responding.

02:58:12.420 The heart lies anyway.

02:58:13.500 Here, I can prove it to you.

02:58:14.820 I can prove to you that the heart lies.

02:58:17.200 And I can give you a great emotional example.

02:58:19.580 Okay.

02:58:20.140 Have you ever been with a man and he's given you butterflies?

02:58:25.200 To be honest, no.

02:58:26.480 Because I have severe attachment traumas.

02:58:29.540 Okay, before the attachment traumas.

02:58:31.100 I always had them.

02:58:33.200 How did you get an attachment trauma before you ever got attached?

02:58:37.540 Do you not know about my family?

02:58:39.060 Oh, okay.

02:58:39.920 Well, absent this, you understand most women do report a feeling of butterflies.

02:58:45.360 Often.

02:58:47.320 They want that particular emotion.

02:58:48.680 The chemical feeling.

02:58:49.760 The honeymoon effect of the chemical reaction.

02:58:52.960 But that's your heart lying.

02:58:54.360 That's not your heart.

02:58:55.400 That is literally a chemical reaction in your body.

02:58:58.040 That's nothing to do with your heart space.

02:58:59.780 Your heart space goes by totally.

02:59:00.780 Well, then your heart's just a chemical reaction in your body.

02:59:02.580 No, it's actually not.

02:59:03.600 The chemical reaction is coming from different structures in your body.

02:59:07.160 Those are all chemicals, though.

02:59:09.020 So if one's a chemical, they're all chemicals.

02:59:10.360 No, your heart is actually an electromagnet.

02:59:12.580 It's not chemical.

02:59:13.660 It's electromagnetic.

02:59:15.160 Okay, and your body, skin, everything has an electromagnetic frequency as well.

02:59:20.340 But having a frequency for a thing does not mean that the thing which is introducing into

02:59:25.080 your brain these emotions isn't chemical.

02:59:27.240 So here's the thing.

02:59:28.800 It's actually the story that we tell ourselves that is creating the emotional response.

02:59:35.040 So those women who are letting themselves have that emotional response of butterflies, 1.00

02:59:41.160 that you're calling it, that's actually them telling themselves the story that they have

02:59:46.100 found a savior.

02:59:47.520 This person is going to save me.

02:59:48.900 So their heart is lying.

02:59:49.880 It's not their heart.

02:59:51.160 It's the story that their logical mind is telling their body.

02:59:54.220 If it was purely logical, right, then their heart couldn't lie to their mind.

02:59:58.160 It's not their heart.

02:59:59.260 You're misinterpreting what is the heart.

03:00:01.660 You could not make, what you're saying is actually unreasonable or irrational.

03:00:05.420 You're saying their rational brain is creating irrationality.

03:00:08.700 So you studied neuropsychology?

03:00:11.360 The study of neuropsychology has nothing to do with the study of philosophy.

03:00:15.060 This is not philosophical.

03:00:16.200 It is philosophical.

03:00:17.180 Well, I'm talking about actual science.

03:00:18.380 Have you ever heard of the philosophy of science?

03:00:20.620 I'm not talking about that.

03:00:21.820 I'm talking about literally neuroscience.

03:00:23.580 I'm talking about it.

03:00:24.500 The philosophy of science is still a grounding foundation for scientific principles.

03:00:29.300 And so what I'm saying to you is that things still have to be rational, even in science.

03:00:34.620 They have to be rational.

03:00:35.900 That's what the scientific process and the method is, is it's a methodology,

03:00:39.980 which is a rational method to come up to empirical answers.

03:00:43.440 It's not necessarily rational so much as it is repeatable, repeatable with an equation.

03:00:48.880 That's what makes it scientific.

03:00:49.660 But even that, what you just said, is rational.

03:00:51.780 But it doesn't always make logical sense, the outcome of the equation.

03:00:56.180 The outcome may not, but the process to determine the outcome always does.

03:01:00.160 It is systematic, repeatable, linear, yes.

03:01:07.280 It's rational.

03:01:08.220 So that's my whole point.

03:01:09.600 I just have, I just don't want the word rational to be taken out of context and spend into something that it's not.

03:01:16.400 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

03:01:16.660 Well, I'm not trying, I'm trying, I guess what I'm trying to get at.

03:01:18.920 I feel like a lot of the physics of how the universe works is very mystical. 0.95

03:01:22.540 It's very like, what the fuck, how does that work? 0.97

03:01:24.020 I don't even disagree with that. 0.98

03:01:25.100 But what I was getting at, what I'm driving here is from my worldview,

03:01:29.600 and the reason I was trying to give you mine earlier so that you understood,

03:01:32.540 what you describe to me as pure evil.

03:01:35.720 When you say, when you say this, and this is how we would describe it from my worldview.

03:01:40.300 When you say that the rational brain, the reasonable brain, should be rejected in lieu of the emotional mind,

03:01:49.480 whatever the new emotional mind is, right?

03:01:51.880 And that you focus on that emotional mind because it makes you happy.

03:01:55.920 This is the equivalency to me of pure hedonism.

03:01:59.260 Okay.

03:01:59.740 And what that does is it subtracts this big element that I do care about.

03:02:04.340 I wouldn't care, for instance, if you went to a desert island and you're like, 0.99

03:02:07.180 I'm going to be fucking hedonistic and do blah, I wouldn't give a flying fuck, right? 0.99

03:02:10.940 My problem comes in when emotion becomes collectivized, especially in women, 1.00

03:02:16.800 and that creates some sort of like power move.

03:02:20.740 And then that begins to sway society or move society in a way which causes significant problems

03:02:28.380 to people who do value what is rational and reasonable.

03:02:31.080 What's the problems?

03:02:31.440 Well, I mean, let's take, for instance, the inequality in the courts between men and women

03:02:38.460 when it comes to custody, when it comes to women initiating most divorces.

03:02:44.180 And the reasoning that they put behind initiating most of the divorces has nothing to do with the fact

03:02:50.180 that they were being abused or that they were being cheated on, but that they have irreconcilable differences.

03:02:55.000 In other words, they don't feel those butterflies anymore.

03:02:57.480 Now we have kids who are brought into the equation.

03:03:00.740 What about the men who give lines?

03:03:02.160 Let me finish, and I'll let you respond, I promise.

03:03:05.380 Now we have kids brought in the equation in these relationships, 0.99

03:03:08.140 and then what ends up happening is mommy, because she doesn't feel the butterflies anymore,

03:03:12.440 leaves dad for Chuck down the road who gives her the butterflies. 0.92

03:03:16.000 But now we have these groups of kids growing up in a broken home.

03:03:19.940 If that was one family, no problem. 0.99

03:03:22.460 When it becomes one million families, it becomes a big fucking problem. 0.98

03:03:26.560 So let me ask you something. 0.97

03:03:28.980 What did the man do that gave her the butterflies in the first place? 1.00

03:03:32.880 Was he an asshole? 1.00

03:03:33.680 He may not have done anything necessarily. 1.00

03:03:36.240 Sometimes women know within two, three minutes that they're extremely attracted to a man 1.00

03:03:41.860 and that they desire him.

03:03:43.020 They're trauma bonded to him.

03:03:44.540 Yeah, you keep saying that, but it's pretty loaded.

03:03:46.700 It seems like you kind of think everything is trauma.

03:03:49.080 The table is trauma.

03:03:50.220 Mostly it is.

03:03:51.060 I don't think so.

03:03:51.840 I think when you say trauma, I think you would...

03:03:55.920 Unprocessed emotion from childhood.

03:03:58.160 Yeah.

03:03:58.760 No, I'm going to disagree with it.

03:03:59.920 That's really Freudian.

03:04:00.880 So again, who is the expert in psychology?

03:04:03.720 Yeah, but that doesn't mean you're right.

03:04:05.040 Who is the expert in psychology?

03:04:06.120 Even if you had an expertise, it wouldn't make you correct.

03:04:08.680 But who is the expert technically?

03:04:10.240 I'm not sure that you're an expert.

03:04:11.620 Because you have a degree, I'm not sure you're an expert.

03:04:13.240 I would not make the claim that you're an expert because you have a degree.

03:04:19.400 Do you just make the claim that people are experts because they have degrees?

03:04:22.140 I don't think you would either.

03:04:23.700 That's kind of the world we live in.

03:04:25.300 You get a couple degrees in something and you are at least more expert than the person

03:04:29.360 who has no education on the subject.

03:04:31.060 Yeah, well, hang on.

03:04:32.680 Saying you have no education on a subject, that's not the same as a degree.

03:04:37.640 Like, there's a lot that I understand about psychology that I've studied that doesn't

03:04:43.160 mean that I'm an expert.

03:04:44.680 All right, Andrew.

03:04:45.400 But I'm not going to concede you are either.

03:04:46.820 Okay.

03:04:47.520 All right.

03:04:48.220 Well, next subject then.

03:04:49.280 Well, hang on.

03:04:50.060 An argument from incredulity of, yeah, right. 1.00

03:04:51.880 We're not going to come to an agreement when you're throwing me bullshit. 0.99

03:04:56.220 I have a degree in psychology, so I'm an expert. 0.99

03:04:59.120 You do?

03:05:00.580 I'm an expert.

03:05:01.440 I have a degree in psychology.

03:05:01.920 Let me see your degree.

03:05:02.900 I have a degree in psychology.

03:05:03.840 Let me see it.

03:05:04.520 Does it make you an expert to have a degree, yes or no?

03:05:06.800 What makes me an expert is the fact that I got the logical knowledge, and then I went

03:05:11.240 out and studied it.

03:05:12.340 Ryan, Andrew, and team can't believe you're enduring this unstable woman better than the 0.99

03:05:15.880 others.

03:05:16.660 What are you afraid of? 0.99

03:05:18.300 I can't imagine what her ex had went through with this manipulative, toxic woman. 1.00

03:05:23.100 There's another one coming through. 0.98

03:05:25.580 Concealed Man.

03:05:26.360 Hey, thank you, man.

03:05:26.840 I appreciate it.

03:05:27.600 Is this the Concealed Man? 0.88

03:05:29.200 Is that a super popular Twitter account?

03:05:33.900 Or am I thinking of...

03:05:34.800 Thank you, though, for the TTS.

03:05:37.440 Christine donated $100. 1.00

03:05:40.260 Lol, my sister has a psych degree from UCI, and she is a moron. 1.00

03:05:44.600 She tells me she just memorized random facts and wrote papers for class and is now working 0.99

03:05:49.860 at an Uber driver.

03:05:51.280 Take her kids away. 1.00

03:05:53.960 Damn. 1.00

03:05:55.140 I just want to know the answer to that question. 0.99

03:05:57.420 Do you believe that a person is an expert just because they have a degree?

03:06:00.740 No, I do not.

03:06:01.420 Okay, well, then you continuously bringing up that you're an expert because you have a

03:06:05.740 degree, it makes no sense.

03:06:06.740 Because you do not respect my actual knowledge or experience on this subject.

03:06:11.840 Because it doesn't make sense.

03:06:13.060 Get to French kissing, bro. 0.66

03:06:15.040 Open mouth and tongue, too. 0.99

03:06:17.120 Im dead. 1.00

03:06:18.220 Hashtag get the fucking rocks. 1.00

03:06:19.940 Hashtag free. 1.00

03:06:20.840 Hashtag sleepy eight at 18.

03:06:22.780 LP, we summoned you on Tuesday's dating talk.

03:06:27.240 Like, I think it's been a while, right, since we've seen LP?

03:06:30.940 Yeah.

03:06:31.960 Good to see you in the chat, man.

03:06:32.960 Thank you for the TTS.

03:06:33.840 Appreciate it.

03:06:34.880 It is a Bitcoin, though.

03:06:35.900 Just letting you know.

03:06:37.560 Thank you, man.

03:06:38.100 Appreciate it.

03:06:38.660 Good to see you in the chat, man.

03:06:42.100 It was so productive there for a few minutes, too.

03:06:45.520 I do.

03:06:45.980 You mentioned you're going to sick your contact in the FBI on me.

03:07:01.760 Are you asking me a question?

03:07:02.960 Yeah, that's a question.

03:07:04.240 How is it a question?

03:07:05.480 You're reading a statement.

03:07:09.540 Do you want me to put, are you, at the front of that?

03:07:14.120 Is that what you're asking?

03:07:15.980 Yeah, let's just assume it was a question, then.

03:07:17.960 Okay, repeat the question, then.

03:07:19.740 Okay, in messages, you said that you have an FBI contact, and they're going to investigate

03:07:26.480 me for terrorism?

03:07:28.300 Correct.

03:07:29.620 Um, do you care to expand on what?

03:07:33.220 You can just read it.

03:07:34.280 I explained everything to you detailed.

03:07:36.240 I mean, I actually don't have a paper in front of me, but.

03:07:39.160 Pegasus 25 donated $100.

03:07:42.600 Bimbo, you're not an expert just because you have a couple thousand dollar piece of toilet 1.00

03:07:47.320 paper. 1.00

03:07:48.260 You're indoctrinated to believe the bullshit that you spew. 1.00

03:07:51.240 You're nothing more than a hook. 1.00

03:07:53.740 Yes, I don't really have it in front of me now, but there were some messages that you

03:07:57.860 sent about how you feel like.

03:08:00.560 We can talk about that off the show.

03:08:02.120 It's a very serious matter.

03:08:03.160 Okay, but I'm asking you now, like, how do you come to the conclusion that the show

03:08:11.300 is, like, terrorist activities?

03:08:13.840 It's not, it's not something that I am comfortable with talking on camera.

03:08:19.240 What?

03:08:19.720 We can talk about it after, for sure.

03:08:21.540 Well, you're comfortable enough to.

03:08:24.120 It was a private conversation.

03:08:25.900 It wasn't a public matter.

03:08:27.840 Well, hold on, but when you're threatening legal action, legal action will entail that

03:08:32.880 it becomes a public matter, correct?

03:08:34.960 Well, at that point, at that point, it will be discussed publicly then.

03:08:39.020 It's not at that point.

03:08:40.980 Well, I mean, if you're threatening legal action, I think it's going to be public eventually.

03:08:47.980 So why don't you just state the claims?

03:08:51.080 I don't see what, I can't even imagine in what, in what way this podcast could be deemed

03:08:56.520 like a terrorist threat or organization.

03:09:01.060 Are you saying Maddie's going to do something?

03:09:05.780 I detailed, I detailed the explanation in my extensive messages with you.

03:09:11.460 Well, I don't have a screenshot of it.

03:09:13.140 Well, then you can go back and read it later.

03:09:15.040 Well, I can't pull it up.

03:09:16.000 So we're here now.

03:09:16.780 You can just state in your own words what your specific...

03:09:22.100 My last word, no!

03:09:25.960 Next.

03:09:28.100 You can't just throw out an accusation and not be prepared to defend it.

03:09:32.040 I gave you personally, person to person, as a civil matter, the claim.

03:09:37.840 Very detailed.

03:09:39.040 If you want to take a minute and find that, you're welcome to.

03:09:42.580 But I am not prepared to discuss that on camera, live, in this context.

03:09:50.360 It was a person-to-person conversation.

03:09:56.500 I mean, it's not really helpful for the sake of the conversation, but...

03:10:01.580 Okay, well, that's a separate conversation, the whole terrorism thing.

03:10:07.280 What about your lawsuit?

03:10:08.800 You said you're building a legal case against me?

03:10:10.660 That's the lawsuit.

03:10:14.000 You're talking about the same exact thing.

03:10:16.640 Okay.

03:10:17.780 What claims do you intend to bring?

03:10:21.180 I just told you that it is detailed in my extensive messaging to you.

03:10:25.400 It is not detailed.

03:10:26.000 Well, I'll make sure...

03:10:27.240 You send, like, walls of text and paragraphs.

03:10:29.580 It's in there.

03:10:30.980 Not my fault you don't read it.

03:10:32.160 I don't feel inclined to, like, parse through your, like, incoherent rambling on Instagram.

03:10:39.680 Why don't...

03:10:40.060 You're here on the show.

03:10:41.580 Instead of, like, making us do this extra work to, like, go through all the messages,

03:10:46.560 why don't you just state your actual position?

03:10:49.380 It would make it very simple.

03:10:52.420 I'm not comfortable doing that.

03:10:54.140 Why are you not comfortable?

03:10:55.620 Because my tummy feels very tense and tight when you ask me that.

03:11:03.980 And so, pass.

03:11:05.460 Uh, well, my tummy feels very tense and tight when people threaten frivolous and vexatious legal action.

03:11:27.860 It wasn't frivolous.

03:11:29.540 It absolutely is frivolous.

03:11:31.720 Okay.

03:11:32.080 Have you consulted with an attorney on this?

03:11:39.580 Why do you ask?

03:11:45.380 I don't know.

03:11:46.240 Are you an expert in the law?

03:11:50.420 Again, why do you ask?

03:11:53.940 Well, I would imagine if you went to an attorney and said,

03:11:58.020 I had a bad time on the whatever podcast.

03:11:59.920 I want to sue Brian for $100,000.

03:12:02.460 He's going to laugh in your face.

03:12:05.160 That's why I ask.

03:12:06.580 Because maybe you're just imagining all these scenarios in which you think you can sue me.

03:12:12.700 Yeah.

03:12:14.440 That's why I ask.

03:12:16.380 Well, why don't we just leave it at that?

03:12:17.780 You can think whatever you want.

03:12:19.560 You're going to anyway, no matter what I say.

03:12:21.560 So, what's the point of me saying anything?

03:12:22.720 I'm going to what?

03:12:23.720 Whatever you say.

03:12:24.620 You're going to think whatever you want to think.

03:12:27.260 Do you know what the purpose of a conversation is?

03:12:30.720 Well, in my day, it was so you could gain perspective into another person's thought process.

03:12:40.480 But in the new generation, it's really just so you can pick apart somebody's mind

03:12:48.340 and decide you want to throw it in the trash.

03:12:50.840 So, no point.

03:12:57.760 Okay.

03:12:58.260 So, you're fine with us pulling up the chats then?

03:13:00.180 Yeah, go ahead.

03:13:00.800 I have to go to the bathroom anyway.

03:13:02.020 Take your time.

03:13:02.540 Ah, okay.

03:13:13.580 It's interesting.

03:13:16.420 Even though I feel like I'm being more, am I being more polite than Andrew?

03:13:22.920 Not to say you're being whatever, but she seems to actually be somewhat able to engage

03:13:29.040 with you.

03:13:29.880 But every single thing I've brought up totally stonewalls me. 0.99

03:13:34.280 Like, refuses.

03:13:35.380 Every single thing I've brought up just refuses to actually have a conversation about it.

03:13:40.400 I think it's your tone.

03:13:43.840 You've got to learn how to talk to obstinate women, Brian. 1.00

03:13:47.280 Probably.

03:13:47.720 In any case, I don't know if you missed it.

03:13:51.300 You just assume three things.

03:13:52.920 One, they're lying.

03:13:54.160 Two, they're manipulating.

03:13:55.680 And then three, that you can emotionally jar an answer.

03:13:58.780 That's the only three things.

03:13:59.860 That's like the three-step rule.

03:14:03.500 Yeah.

03:14:04.280 We have Jeff Bader, electrical engineer here in my industry.

03:14:07.440 Having a degree means you're a baby.

03:14:09.440 You need decades of problem solving to be an expert.

03:14:12.460 Degrees are virtually meaningless. 0.96

03:14:14.680 Thank you, Jeff Bader.

03:14:15.400 What's really funny is when you get somebody who has worked in an engineer in one field 0.98

03:14:21.140 for a long time and then moves over to another field and realizes how little they fucking 0.98

03:14:26.180 know about anything. 0.99

03:14:28.060 It's pretty funny to watch.

03:14:29.860 But engineers know this and tradesmen know this.

03:14:33.740 Hey, Jeff, thank you.

03:14:36.740 Thank you for the message.

03:14:38.580 And then we did have Christopher Martin here.

03:14:41.340 Someone has a PhD in gas.

03:14:43.440 Thank you, Christopher Martin.

03:14:44.680 Attack donated $100.

03:14:47.260 Desiree, please give Andrew a chance.

03:14:50.040 You may not like what he says, but his heart is in the right place.

03:14:54.280 He wants to see the world improve for the better.

03:14:57.400 Let your guard down a bit.

03:14:59.000 Tiki-tac. 0.52

03:15:03.460 Hey, thank you for the TTS.

03:15:06.040 I do appreciate it.

03:15:07.300 I do appreciate it.

03:15:08.120 Thank you very much.

03:15:09.380 Guys, can you go to twitch.tv slash whatever?

03:15:11.600 Those of you who are watching on Twitch.

03:15:12.900 Oh, Crazy Ace.

03:15:14.220 Huh?

03:15:15.800 Yo, Ace.

03:15:16.520 Thank you for the gifted 10 subs over there on Twitch.

03:15:22.160 Much appreciated.

03:15:22.820 And then, if you can, pull up Twitch for me.

03:15:26.280 I can.

03:15:27.080 Can you give me a second?

03:15:27.800 All right, guys.

03:15:40.360 Twitch.tv slash whatever.

03:15:41.520 Drops a follow.

03:15:42.120 Drops a prime sub.

03:15:43.340 If you have one, twitch.tv slash whatever.

03:15:45.820 Drops a follow.

03:15:46.380 Drops a prime sub.

03:15:47.620 Justin, thank you for the gifted subs on Twitch.

03:15:49.320 Appreciate it, man.

03:15:50.480 Really appreciate it.

03:15:51.500 There's 1,600 of you over there.

03:15:53.620 If you can, drops a follow.

03:15:55.060 If you're watching on YouTube, just open up another tab.

03:15:57.020 Drops a follow over there on Twitch.

03:16:00.740 Twitch.tv slash whatever.

03:16:03.300 And so, going back to this.

03:16:08.000 Oh.

03:16:09.480 Jai Vanek donated $100.

03:16:11.500 Isn't this just bullying someone struggling with mental illness and potentially substance abuse issues?

03:16:19.120 Kind of cringe.

03:16:21.120 Yeah.

03:16:21.840 You should stop doing that to Brian.

03:16:26.140 Thank you, Giovanni.

03:16:28.760 I mean, I don't think you have substance abuse issues.

03:16:33.040 No.

03:16:34.160 You don't do drugs.

03:16:35.800 I mean, you had a shot with Andrew before the show, but.

03:16:38.380 I do my weed and, yeah, some, I have my cocktails here and there or a shot or something.

03:16:44.000 Yeah, they had a nice little clink shot before the show.

03:16:49.260 So, anyways.

03:16:51.960 Okay, well, I mean, if you don't want to discuss that.

03:16:58.080 I mean, you're welcome to read it if you wanted to read it.

03:17:00.920 That's up to you.

03:17:01.260 Well, I could read it, but if you don't want to actually, like, engage.

03:17:05.780 Not on the show.

03:17:06.680 It's a private matter.

03:17:07.440 Well, it's not a, you do realize lawsuits are a private matter, correct?

03:17:11.520 Well, I.

03:17:11.660 Law Paladins donated $100.

03:17:14.740 Andrew, I'd like to push back on the foster kids having worse outcomes.

03:17:19.320 The kids being removed are already suffering from the worst abuse before the state takes action.

03:17:25.280 Skewed statistics.

03:17:26.740 Yeah, it's not, it's not skewed.

03:17:28.340 So, I remember diving into this.

03:17:29.900 This was a couple years ago for a debate that I was prepping for.

03:17:34.520 And I actually interviewed somebody who was in, that's what they, that's what they did.

03:17:39.220 They worked for the state.

03:17:40.480 And oftentimes, when foster care, their rates of being unalive, for instance, things like that, or being S8, are way higher than even if you left them in an abusive home.

03:17:52.740 Which, by the way, this has not been established that this home is even abusive.

03:17:57.120 So, you're going, I think you're going above and beyond.

03:18:02.480 The heart of this conversation is to get into the worldview, the ideas, not for you to, you know, to, it's not a call to action.

03:18:13.260 And it should not be a call to action.

03:18:15.120 It should be us talking about the views.

03:18:17.960 That's the way that I see it.

03:18:19.120 Okay, so, you don't want to talk about any of this stuff, really.

03:18:30.900 I mean, maybe we can come back to the thing that we were trying to get a clear answer on kind of before.

03:18:37.660 Again, I would like to ask, how is the show, or how are me and Andrew, woman-hating?

03:18:49.120 How was your relationship with your mother early on?

03:18:54.280 Fine. It was good.

03:18:56.160 How is that relevant?

03:18:58.120 Well, that would...

03:18:58.620 Why are you asking?

03:19:01.200 Because it would tell us exactly where your wounding around the feminine would be. 0.93

03:19:07.560 And then I could give you...

03:19:08.600 My mom's wonderful. Love her.

03:19:10.820 Same.

03:19:11.680 I grew up in an intact family.

03:19:13.760 My mom absolutely adores me.

03:19:16.000 Still does.

03:19:16.880 Even when you're mean to other women.

03:19:19.160 She says, I'm the handsomest in the whole world.

03:19:22.200 Yeah.

03:19:22.780 Do you think if somebody is mean to a woman, it necessarily means that they're doing it because they are a woman?

03:19:30.660 Or can you just be mean to somebody for a wide variety of reasons?

03:19:38.340 That's correct.

03:19:39.080 But what I have observed is that the feminine, what is feminine?

03:19:46.160 Okay.

03:19:46.460 The vulnerability, the emotionality, the feeling part that we were discussing.

03:19:53.360 Okay.

03:19:54.300 Everything that is feminine. 0.69

03:19:55.460 I believe that that's really, really heavily under attack right now.

03:19:59.480 So whether it's coming from a male body to a female or it's coming from a female body to a female, there is this general ideology, again, that logic and egoical thought constructs trump the humanity of our body.

03:20:23.480 Messy underscore is underscore the underscore goat donated $100.

03:20:28.520 Can all of you say one thing you're grateful for so far this year?

03:20:32.580 Brainyore, I appreciate the way you explain things.

03:20:36.100 P.S.

03:20:36.440 Hope you spend my $200 bucks wisely.

03:20:40.480 Messy, thank you very much for the TTS.

03:20:42.720 I do appreciate it.

03:20:44.300 One thing I'm grateful for this year.

03:20:45.900 Wait one sec.

03:20:56.040 I got it.

03:21:00.860 I'm grateful for Rachel Wilson's book, Occult Feminism, Amazon.

03:21:08.580 Good book.

03:21:09.320 Read it.

03:21:09.760 It is a good book.

03:21:10.280 I'm grateful.

03:21:10.840 She's still in the chat.

03:21:11.700 Rachel, what's up?

03:21:12.540 I'm sure she is.

03:21:12.880 Shout out to Rachel Wilson. 1.00

03:21:18.400 Yeah, so I would say I'm grateful for the same thing I'm always grateful for every year, which is that I have a family that loves me.

03:21:26.860 It's like that's wealth beyond, that's just wealth beyond any measure.

03:21:30.680 I am also grateful for Nick signing a contract with me that he will perpetually, in perpetuity, work for the whatever podcast.

03:21:44.920 You're making that up.

03:21:45.840 You're making that up.

03:21:46.540 And also Madison also signed that one too.

03:21:48.600 Yeah.

03:21:48.820 Oh my God, I just noticed that I have this guy behind me.

03:21:51.420 Yeah, that's crazy.

03:21:53.020 Who's this?

03:21:53.700 Is this my avatar boyfriend or something?

03:21:55.900 I am grateful for Nick being dope, and also Madison for being super dope.

03:22:07.300 Yeah.

03:22:10.040 What about you, Desiree?

03:22:11.140 Are you grateful that you made it on the whatever podcast this year?

03:22:13.560 Well, there's part of me that has had a really hard time with it, to be honest.

03:22:21.080 I, like I said, had, I had no idea, to be honest with you, that these online platforms were even, I mean, I have heard in theory what's going on.

03:22:32.260 But I had never taken part, but I have to say, all that to say, you guys basically, because of everything that was brought up, saved my children from a really bad situation that I have been waiting out for five years, to the point where enough surfaced, and my kids got old enough to speak.

03:23:00.840 And be heard that they got saved from their dad. 0.98

03:23:07.240 And because of his stupidity, and him following along with the thought process of a lot of these people that are speaking out of tune about what is abuse and all of that, 1.00

03:23:27.680 he shot himself in the foot so bad. 1.00

03:23:36.340 Well, I mean, then you should be, shouldn't you be showing them all gratitude and thank you?

03:23:39.740 Yeah, so that's what I'm thankful for, and that's why I brought it up, is I'm thankful, that is my biggest...

03:23:44.180 So thankful to the whatever podcast.

03:23:45.700 Yes, I am, actually.

03:23:47.180 And that's why I came back, despite it being an extremely uncomfortable situation for me, and I'm doing my best.

03:23:56.520 Yeah, I feel like we're making it pretty easy for you, honestly.

03:24:00.020 And also...

03:24:00.480 And I'm even going to agree with you on something else, when you say that femininity is under attack, right? 0.85

03:24:05.700 I actually agree.

03:24:06.800 I just don't think that we agree on what femininity is.

03:24:09.420 And so I wanted to ask you this question.

03:24:11.400 Do you think that promiscuity is part of femininity? 0.98

03:24:15.900 I think that's an aspect of it. 0.98

03:24:17.520 That's the wild, like, slut energy, and that is a protective measure that is primarily feminine. 1.00

03:24:25.580 Because you have to understand that if a male body was designed to serve and protect, that means that there's a lot of death, right? 0.60

03:24:37.720 Because we're getting to, you could say, a more physically humane era in society, where most guys are having a life expectancy, right?

03:24:51.340 That's, like, into the 70s.

03:24:52.980 They're seeing their kids be raised and all that.

03:24:54.980 That wasn't always the case.

03:24:56.480 So a woman biologically had to come in with the ability to quickly shift between this guy, this guy, this guy, this guy to survive, literally. 1.00

03:25:08.100 Well, I understand that from the purpose of mate selection, that women can move from, okay, I was with a guy for a long time, met another good guy, right? 0.57

03:25:18.000 I'm with him for a long time.

03:25:19.520 I'm not sure that that really resonates with promiscuity, though.

03:25:22.520 When I'm talking about promiscuity, I'm talking about moving between sexual partners fluidly for the purpose of just self-interest and hedonism.

03:25:31.060 It feels good.

03:25:31.860 I like it.

03:25:32.840 I think that's a feminine energy trait. 1.00

03:25:34.880 Why is that feminine? 1.00

03:25:38.760 Because.

03:25:39.800 And not, like, for instance, a contrast would be chastity.

03:25:42.380 When I think of feet of women and I think of qualities that I consider feminine, when I think of, like, chaste and kind and this and that, I put those together to kind of make the image in my head of what a woman is.

03:25:56.140 I don't think, like, powerful panther sex energy.

03:26:00.600 That's, like, I think when I think that.

03:26:01.880 Well, that's because you're coming from a Christian ideology.

03:26:04.380 Yeah.

03:26:04.700 Well, yes, but not always, right?

03:26:08.100 I've had shakes in the faith, things like this. 0.97

03:26:10.160 And when I was in my early 20s, there's no fucking angel, right? 0.93

03:26:15.760 Well, I'm sorry. 0.96

03:26:17.280 Yeah, basically my early 20s.

03:26:19.040 So the thing is, is, like, I still have eyes and I still engage with the world.

03:26:23.680 And I can tell, even by talking with atheists and men all over the world, when they are creating an image of a woman, they think of kindness, nurturing, chastity, almost in a way purity.

03:26:36.840 Well, because they're thinking of how they're thinking of their mothers.

03:26:39.980 Right.

03:26:40.160 So the thing is, is, like, well, I don't know if I would say exactly that, but I'm just going to kind of grant it because I think it helps the conversation out.

03:26:50.120 But if they are, right, most people are not going to want to, men or women, envision their mother moving fluidly between sexual partners, right?

03:26:59.460 It's embarrassing.

03:26:59.900 Well, that's why the sex falls off and women get bored of the men because you guys are trained to look for your mother. 1.00

03:27:07.220 But actually what keeps your bodies happy sexually is the slut. 1.00

03:27:11.560 So essentially you all are looking for the unicorn who can embody the mother and the slut energy for you inside the container of your relationship. 1.00

03:27:20.480 I'm not sure that your wife sexually gratifying you would be slutty. 0.99

03:27:25.680 So my background was I spent 15 years in the church doing a lot of counseling. 0.95

03:27:37.900 What was the denomination?

03:27:40.140 Primarily Southern Baptist.

03:27:41.660 Okay.

03:27:42.760 So you were a Trinitarian?

03:27:44.820 I don't know what that means.

03:27:46.100 You believed in the triune nature of God.

03:27:48.080 You weren't a Unitarian.

03:27:48.840 So you believed in the Holy Trinity, Father God.

03:27:50.940 The Trinity, yes.

03:27:51.820 Okay.

03:27:52.140 Yes, correct at the time.

03:27:53.700 So the reality was almost universally I observed a pattern going on in the church.

03:28:06.320 Now, I was part of the Southern Baptist denomination as far as educationally and where I actually went to worship.

03:28:13.420 But I went to many, many different denominations and ministries.

03:28:17.720 I traveled cross-culturally to Europe and things like that doing missionary work with the goal of what is going on with the women and the marriages.

03:28:30.440 Because universally, almost across the board, the census was women were not enjoying sex.

03:28:38.560 They were doing duty sex, right?

03:28:40.800 So I can think of literally one, maybe two women in all my years of ministry and literally serving the women, even the pastor's wives, everything.

03:28:58.900 They were not okay sexually.

03:29:01.580 Then how do you explain this?

03:29:04.260 Because I've heard this argument many, many times from various, well, various women. 1.00

03:29:10.820 You don't usually hear it from high-level male clergy.

03:29:15.180 And usually women will say, well, of course not, right? 0.98

03:29:16.960 They're trying to suppress women's sexuality. 1.00

03:29:19.020 But what we do have is we have some pretty interesting statistics.

03:29:21.840 So if you get married a virgin, if you get married a virgin as a woman and as a man, your marriage ends up lasting way longer than any other demographic in society.

03:29:35.360 It ends up lasting way longer.

03:29:36.960 And you know what?

03:29:37.460 An interesting side effect.

03:29:39.360 When asked about sexual satisfaction, those couples report the highest level of sexual satisfaction.

03:29:44.500 Now, the reason behind this, right, kind of like the reasoning that people think that this is so, is because the women have nothing to compare it to, and neither do the men.

03:29:57.480 So for them, the sex is always good.

03:29:59.840 If that's the only sex you've ever had, it's always going to be good. 0.99

03:30:03.180 What's interesting about that, though, is there's so many women who get upset about that, that these women aren't going out and experiencing tons of sexual partners, 1.00

03:30:11.840 even though by them not doing that, they report higher sexual satisfaction, and they stay married longer and are way more well-adjusted.

03:30:20.800 So wouldn't that be like a good argument to move towards, you know, chastity or moving people towards virginity when they're getting married?

03:30:30.920 Wouldn't that be a really good effect of that?

03:30:32.880 So that's all fine and dandy if we could create a world whereby we revert back to the natural life cycle that humans were born with.

03:30:50.540 Meaning humans, hormonally, all of that, are ready to have sex when they go through puberty.

03:30:59.540 So there was a time in history where that was happening.

03:31:04.300 So the idea of being a virgin when you pick your mate and actually being young enough for that to be practical, right, that would be possible.

03:31:17.860 Again, if we change the whole school structure and kids are actually not being infantilized and they're actually transitioning from childhood to at least young adulthood,

03:31:30.340 instead of it taking 25 years, if we actually brought back traditions and initiation practices that many cultures have employed throughout the years, initiation.

03:31:46.100 So for males, it would be one thing.

03:31:48.960 For females, it would be something different. 1.00

03:31:51.200 But if we were advancing these children into sexual maturity to where they could be starting their families in their teens like their bodies are designed to do,

03:32:02.940 then I think we could, in theory, get back to a place where the, and we teach people to be their authentic selves and to find partners who are actually in alignment with the calling they have.

03:32:16.800 We're not teaching people how to pick wisely.

03:32:19.060 This is why I don't like the idea of women in political power, and here's why. 1.00

03:32:24.740 Because this was recent that most people married virgins. 0.53

03:32:28.340 Recent.

03:32:29.340 Clear up to the 50s and 60s, most marriages were between virgins.

03:32:34.020 Virgin bride, virgin husband.

03:32:35.940 Now that's wild to think about how that could drastically, so drastically change until you remember birth control.

03:32:42.160 When birth control is introduced and the sexual revolution happens, the sexual revolution of women being told by other women to go out and be promiscuous,

03:32:51.920 and now they have a pill which will stop conception.

03:32:55.780 And suddenly, this entire thing that you're talking about, where you're talking about the initiation,

03:33:02.100 and you're talking about society being turned on its head, and kids being, you know, given the pill and this type of thing in school, right?

03:33:09.300 Like, women did this. 1.00

03:33:12.340 And so if you want to know...

03:33:13.980 Actually, I would disagree with that.

03:33:15.580 I believe that it was made to look like women did it, but I believe that feminism is just the other side of the patriarchal coin, 1.00

03:33:22.900 where it is designed to separate men and women from each other. 0.63

03:33:27.000 And we see this going on.

03:33:28.340 There's this battle of the sexes. 0.88

03:33:30.140 We need to come back together.

03:33:30.720 Patriarchy is not designed to do that, but I agree with you, feminism is. 1.00

03:33:33.420 The patriarchy, what I'm talking about the patriarchy is how men can very easily...

03:33:39.860 For example, you employ a lot of these tactics whereby men are using the emotional vulnerability of women to usurp power over them.

03:33:51.340 Even though that woman, I hate to break it to you, but throughout society and many different cultures, elderly females were the highest regarded.

03:34:04.380 Sure, they're called matrons. 1.00

03:34:05.340 Right, the matrons, the oracles, the grandma, okay?

03:34:10.240 Yeah, because they had a lot of knowledge.

03:34:11.800 A lot of wisdom.

03:34:12.580 A lot of wisdom.

03:34:13.540 They were strong men's grandmothers.

03:34:15.040 Exactly.

03:34:15.500 And their mothers, et cetera. 0.89

03:34:16.860 Exactly.

03:34:16.960 But I think the thing is here, it's like, no, I think the opposite is true.

03:34:19.740 So I think that what's happened is women have utilized the fact that they're vulnerable and men know that they're vulnerable to use that as a manipulation to achieve power. 0.95

03:34:28.280 Some, some, some.

03:34:29.420 Because otherwise, why is it that when the patriarchy is in charge and everything is within a patriarchal structure, the societal ban seem to be much better and women are marrying far more pure and so are the men.

03:34:43.480 Women are not happy in marriage in general. 1.00

03:34:45.660 I don't know where you're getting, they're not anymore.

03:34:48.120 Yeah, but what changed?

03:34:49.680 Feminism and the pill. 1.00

03:34:52.140 I'm not a proponent of feminism.

03:34:54.020 Is that what you're thinking?

03:34:54.780 Well, no, what I'm telling you is that it seems like you're not a proponent of the patriarchy.

03:34:59.300 I'm not.

03:34:59.740 I'm not a proponent of either one because I think both structures are keeping men and women apart.

03:35:04.360 I don't think they're the opposite side of the coin.

03:35:06.240 I think that patriarchy.

03:35:07.400 Well, I do, so it's agree to disagree.

03:35:08.480 Well, I think that patriarchy, I'm not even sure it's going to be agree to disagree.

03:35:11.980 Let me give you the view first because I don't think you're even going to disagree.

03:35:16.120 If you agree to some kind of natural law, which it seems like you do.

03:35:21.960 Lol Paladin's donated $100.

03:35:25.260 Props to Blondie. 1.00

03:35:26.720 She has been cooking for the past 15 minutes.

03:35:29.800 Absolute truth.

03:35:30.720 So when you talk about patriarchy, I don't remember where we're at.

03:35:39.060 Let's see.

03:35:41.060 Oh, yeah, the other side of the coin.

03:35:42.600 No, it can't be.

03:35:43.320 It can't actually be the opposite side of the coin.

03:35:45.300 If you believe in some type of natural law, which it seems like you're alluding to, you believe that there's some natural order, natural paradigm, natural this, natural that.

03:35:52.100 If that is the case, then the biggest and strongest are going to have forced doctrine on their side.

03:35:58.300 You're going to have patriarchy no matter what. 1.00

03:36:00.440 There's no way around it.

03:36:01.380 That's going to be, in other words, the status quo.

03:36:07.740 Well, actually, if the women all just decided that they didn't want to participate in the patriarchy anymore, it would end in a day. 1.00

03:36:20.280 No, I think the opposite's true.

03:36:21.680 I think that if men decided collectively that women couldn't do anything, that that would end in a day, and women could do nothing. 0.80

03:36:28.700 But if women decided that there would be no patriarchy, if men wanted there to be one, they couldn't do anything about it. 1.00

03:36:34.620 Okay.

03:36:35.680 Can you tell me how that logic is flawed?

03:36:38.580 Because it's human nature to be driven by sex.

03:36:42.720 Yeah, but they could have sex. 0.88

03:36:44.520 With who? 0.99

03:36:45.440 With whoever they wanted to if they decided to make women second-class citizens, right? 0.99

03:36:49.400 Well, if the women don't want to have sex with them anymore. 1.00

03:36:53.100 How could they stop it? 0.99

03:36:54.860 Not opening their legs.

03:36:56.240 How could they stop that?

03:36:58.040 I've stopped it many times.

03:36:59.500 You just don't open your legs.

03:37:00.460 What I'm saying is that if men have forced doctrine, so take countries like Muslim nations, for instance, right? 1.00

03:37:06.220 If inside of nations like this, we can see it right this second.

03:37:10.600 If men decide, and this is why I think that men are benevolent, because we could always do this, but don't.

03:37:15.660 If men collectively decide that women no longer have rights and are second-class citizens, women don't have recourse.

03:37:24.240 They can't do anything about that.

03:37:26.420 We can not engage with you anymore.

03:37:28.340 We can just start our own society.

03:37:30.120 Then how come in these nations where this occurs, they're engaging with men?

03:37:34.020 Because the world is still patriarchal.

03:37:36.380 We haven't all collectively come together to decide we want a new world order.

03:37:41.280 Is that what you want, a new world order?

03:37:42.740 Yes.

03:37:42.940 Of course.

03:37:44.400 Yeah, but the thing is, look, I still don't understand how that would negate that if men decided that women have no rights, let's say, how women would have them.

03:37:56.340 Wouldn't they always have to appeal to men for them? 1.00

03:37:58.380 I think you're misunderstanding, because if you think about it, women didn't have rights for a really long time, and the whole society decided, let's change this.

03:38:06.980 Nope, the whole society didn't.

03:38:07.820 Enough of society.

03:38:08.880 Men allowed it. 0.72

03:38:10.320 Okay, whatever you want to say.

03:38:12.220 Men were led to change that.

03:38:16.820 I don't see it.

03:38:19.440 Basically, courts did it. 1.00

03:38:21.540 People didn't really want it.

03:38:23.120 Women didn't like it. 1.00

03:38:24.420 Men didn't like it.

03:38:25.920 Neither side liked it.

03:38:26.760 Like, for instance, feminism, the right to vote for suffrage, let's say.

03:38:32.260 Women voted against their right to vote almost every time they had a choice to vote on it. 1.00

03:38:37.640 And it was because they wanted to be seen as above politics.

03:38:41.860 They wanted to be seen as virtuous.

03:38:43.700 They wanted to be seen as authorities on issues without being used as political pogs, right, or political cogs.

03:38:50.140 So that's why that happened.

03:38:53.840 And they really voted.

03:38:55.060 So essentially, the courts are the ones who push this through against the will of the people.

03:38:58.820 I do agree that, to be honest with you, I believe that the people need to start taking their power back.

03:39:06.340 I believe that we have all collectively given so much of our power over to governmental authorities that have particular agendas.

03:39:14.640 And at this point, the agenda is monetary.

03:39:17.280 It's a business.

03:39:18.200 The government in the United States, the court system, the police, everything, it's big business.

03:39:22.240 It propagates particular agendas, and it monetizes off basically collective trauma responses because a trauma response is very predictable.

03:39:32.300 You can basically predict with very acute accuracy how a person is going to spend their time, money, life force energy, you could say.

03:39:43.180 Do you know which sex you can do that with the most, who's the most easily propagandized?

03:39:46.540 Women. 0.81

03:39:47.080 Women. 0.81

03:39:47.520 Exactly.

03:39:48.120 And so why, again, if it is the case.

03:39:50.880 They're so victimized.

03:39:51.800 Yeah, so then if it is the case that women are the most victimized by the state, they're the most easy to predict by the state, you can predict them the best and propagandize them the easiest, why do you want them to have political power? 1.00

03:40:05.680 Because I think you're misunderstanding.

03:40:08.760 I don't want women to have to have political power. 1.00

03:40:12.000 I don't want politics to be the overarching power of the world.

03:40:15.960 Then why wouldn't you advocate for women to retract themselves from it? 1.00

03:40:19.800 In a sense, I am propagating that.

03:40:22.620 I'm propagating.

03:40:23.400 Not in a sense, but as an overall.

03:40:26.340 Yeah, I am. 0.99

03:40:27.520 I'm propagating that everybody basically go inward and start dealing with their own shit before they go out and try to save the world when they haven't even dealt with their own racism, their own masculine wounds, feminine wounds, daddy issues, mommy issues. 0.87

03:40:42.440 And then they're going out and they're basically propagating the things that they're saying that they hate or they don't want because they haven't really reconciled it, processed it, and reached a level of sort of development where they then. 0.90

03:40:58.140 So then nobody should engage in the political process?

03:41:01.900 I would love to see politics fade out.

03:41:06.620 Yeah, but I mean, politics is micro and macro, right?

03:41:11.000 So it's small and big.

03:41:12.140 Correct.

03:41:12.540 You have politics in your own house.

03:41:13.840 Correct.

03:41:14.120 And what we're doing, though, is we are focusing so much on the macro to the detriment of the micro.

03:41:21.540 So I agree.

03:41:22.080 I agree there.

03:41:23.040 But the thing is, is that, okay, so let's look at the micro.

03:41:26.520 So if we look at tradition, tradition is the exercise of experiments that worked, right?

03:41:32.200 That's why it's traditional.

03:41:33.980 These are experiments.

03:41:35.140 They worked over and over and over and over again.

03:41:37.720 That's what tradition is, right? 1.00

03:41:39.720 That's why they're still running with fucking bulls in Spain. 0.99

03:41:42.560 Like a scientific process. 0.99

03:41:43.840 Because this was something which has worked.

03:41:46.340 People liked it.

03:41:46.800 Yeah, it's worked.

03:41:47.520 But the thing is.

03:41:48.520 Hang on, hang on.

03:41:49.160 I'm almost done.

03:41:49.800 Almost done.

03:41:50.760 It's worked.

03:41:51.420 It's worked.

03:41:51.780 It's worked.

03:41:52.160 As insane as it seems to us, it's worked.

03:41:54.120 So we keep them intact.

03:41:56.140 On the micro, though, in the family, you know what's really worked really well for the family?

03:42:01.160 Mom at home, dad working, single income you can raise the family on.

03:42:05.660 Right, but the thing is, think about it, Andrew.

03:42:07.680 Andrew, we don't live in the same times.

03:42:10.340 Our government, with the taxation and stuff, is not making it a safe environment right now for one man to even support a family.

03:42:18.020 They're forcing us with tax increases and expensive housing prices and grocery prices.

03:42:23.640 You have to have two incomes coming in, basically.

03:42:25.400 But I would postulate that if women were retracted from the political process tomorrow, that 90% of those issues would go away within the first year. 1.00

03:42:33.520 Yes.

03:42:33.760 So I think that we can agree on this.

03:42:35.840 If we created a societal structure where women were valued in the home again, rather than feeling pressured, societal pressure, to go out and enter the workforce and become taxpayers, because literally the issue of everything, all of world problems, is stemming from childhood trauma.

03:42:55.760 From children not having a sympathetic mother there.

03:42:59.300 Look, I don't know if it's stemming from that, but I'm looking at the solution regardless.

03:43:01.960 So even if it was, if this solution helped you with that, which it seems like it would, you should still be advocating for that solution, right?

03:43:09.380 But how does being sexually provocative, having an OnlyFans, kind of saying things like this are liberating?

03:43:17.080 How in the world does that help move people past this?

03:43:20.560 Well, for me, I can't speak to everybody because everybody's sexuality is expressed in a certain way based on where they're at.

03:43:28.440 For me, for example, I came from deep, deep purity culture on one hand, but also my dad being a pedophile and sex trafficking me.

03:43:37.380 But Southern Baptists aren't Puritans. 0.90

03:43:39.120 They can drink. 1.00

03:43:39.960 They can do all kinds of shit. 1.00

03:43:40.840 Well, no, but I was in the purity culture of celibacy. 1.00

03:43:44.060 So on the one hand, I had my dad indoctrinating me that I was to be a sex worker.

03:43:50.020 That was the only way I was going to make it in life.

03:43:52.220 He would take me to bars from an early age and...

03:43:57.020 Yeah, I can't get into that, yeah.

03:43:59.760 But, okay, I get it.

03:44:01.620 I understand that there was exploitation in your earlier...

03:44:04.020 Right, so you have to understand.

03:44:05.080 But even then...

03:44:05.980 You're not listening.

03:44:07.380 I am listening.

03:44:08.360 I just want to ask a question, and then I'm going to listen to everything you say is the answer.

03:44:12.460 If it is true that there was an exploitation, right, which is there, which created this trauma vacuum for you,

03:44:18.160 which then is why you became promiscuous later in life,

03:44:21.260 I thought that your whole thing was dealing with and getting rid of those traumas.

03:44:25.340 So you have to understand, with these extreme traumas, primarily coming from a sexual wound from a parent,

03:44:31.360 that's the most extreme form of trauma that a human can endure, spiritually, psychologically, emotionally.

03:44:37.860 Okay, so the only way to actually heal from that is to what is called reanimate the trauma.

03:44:44.160 But what you need to do is do it under your terms.

03:44:47.180 So that's why I had to get into kink and BDSM. 0.61

03:44:50.480 So conscious kink and BDSM, meaning bondage.

03:44:54.340 Yeah, I know what it is.

03:44:54.940 Okay, so that is actually a very powerful healing modality for these most intense extreme sexual traumas, which I faced.

03:45:02.960 Normal, you could say tame, textbook, psychological processes don't touch that depth of trauma.

03:45:10.400 You literally have to transmute it, or you have to essentially, you have to take what was so traumatic and painful and unspeakable,

03:45:21.680 and you have to allow your body to turn it into a point of pleasure for you.

03:45:28.480 That is literally the only way that I have seen that anybody can actually heal from these extensive traumas.

03:45:34.880 But that's how grooming works, literally.

03:45:38.380 What do you mean?

03:45:38.740 Well, because the idea here is like, you know, inside of, let's say, certain churches, priests have predilections towards people on the young end, right?

03:45:52.460 But the thing is, is that they're trying to make the association of this activity being pleasurable for you.

03:45:58.240 That's why so many of them end up, you know, going after same sex later in life and repeating the pattern. 0.99

03:46:04.440 It's because they're kind of making the association with the pleasure.

03:46:09.580 So, Brian, they're repeating the pattern because they're not owning it and then taking it into an appropriate context consciously.

03:46:17.400 Yeah, but you would be doing the opposite.

03:46:20.520 Okay, so hear me out.

03:46:23.940 Let's use the priest as an example. 0.99

03:46:25.520 Let's use a priest who is actually a pedophile and, okay, who is abusing younger kids. 0.96

03:46:31.780 The only way to heal from that depth of depravity, we could call it, the only way to heal that is that man needs to admit that is now part of his sexuality. 0.97

03:46:43.360 So, if this is part of my sexuality, how can I...

03:46:46.520 Just a minute, just a minute, just a minute, just a minute, just a minute, just a minute, just a minute.

03:46:50.700 No, you're not listening.

03:46:52.200 They need to admit...

03:46:52.640 That's because you're wrong on this.

03:46:53.720 They need to admit to themselves the energetics.

03:46:56.240 What is it about this little boy that turns me on?

03:47:00.000 They need to get to what about it.

03:47:01.160 All right, all right, we've got to move off the topic.

03:47:03.200 But the thing is, we have to, because I'd love to get into this more, though, but we do have to move off on it.

03:47:08.380 I'm just going to say this last thing.

03:47:10.240 I'll let you give your last point, too, right?

03:47:12.880 What you're saying is the opposite.

03:47:14.240 You're saying that if you make the association of pleasure, that is definitionally grooming,

03:47:20.640 is making the association of pleasure to move towards an activity which you would not ordinarily do.

03:47:26.940 That's part of the brain...

03:47:28.000 Hang on, hang on.

03:47:28.760 That's part of the brainwashing technique for that. 0.85

03:47:31.460 And, by the way, the social sciences are very clear on that, and that's why so many people,

03:47:36.020 young men especially, who've had this happen to them, end up doing it themselves to other people.

03:47:41.080 The reason they're doing it is because they're never owning that there was part of that that they enjoyed.

03:47:46.600 No.

03:47:47.100 Once they admit there was part of it they enjoyed, and then they earth.

03:47:52.100 I'm telling you, literally, the process of how to heal this.

03:47:55.400 Remember.

03:47:55.980 You haven't healed it in you.

03:47:57.740 I have.

03:47:58.460 You haven't.

03:47:59.160 You just got done telling me you're still experiencing the same exact type of trauma.

03:48:03.600 But, listen, I no longer let the trauma create a chronic condition.

03:48:09.840 So, traumas are going to be coming at us constantly, okay?

03:48:13.140 I have exposed myself to particular being an influencer, having attacks, being out there with myself.

03:48:21.640 And so, obviously, I'm going to have these attacks and acute traumas coming at me.

03:48:25.560 I have learned through my sexuality, through conscious kink, BDSM, through being able to express my exhibitionism,

03:48:35.100 to be seen in that way, and to be allowed to just be a sexual being, that is my healing.

03:48:47.220 Because otherwise, I would go out there.

03:48:49.180 When I still had my rape trauma response, I was unconsciously.

03:48:53.660 We're done with this.

03:48:54.260 We've got to move the combo on.

03:48:55.720 I understand that you're not trying to use the words maliciously.

03:48:58.440 You don't understand how stringent the terms of service are for these types of video streaming services.

03:49:04.560 They just don't want this kind of stuff talked about.

03:49:07.500 So, I have to move it on.

03:49:08.520 Okay.

03:49:09.300 Trust me.

03:49:10.000 I much prefer to just dive into it, but we can't.

03:49:14.640 So, I'm hoping we can perhaps find something to actually engage on here.

03:49:22.760 So, I mean, you mentioned something in your messages about ethical extortion.

03:49:31.580 Yeah.

03:49:32.820 What's your question?

03:49:35.080 Is that something that you engage in?

03:49:38.780 Give me your definition of extortion.

03:49:41.160 It's the, of extortion?

03:49:43.340 Yeah.

03:49:43.520 Well, you used the term ethical extortion.

03:49:46.280 But what does the word extortion mean to you?

03:49:48.580 Why does my definition matter here?

03:49:50.260 Well, so that way I can make sure that I explain it in a way that you understand so that we're using the same word.

03:49:55.740 Right, but it's a word you used.

03:49:56.500 Why don't you tell me your definition?

03:49:58.980 Okay.

03:49:59.300 So, extortion is, easiest way to describe it is a blackmail situation, right?

03:50:04.720 So, you do this or you're going to have this consequence.

03:50:07.660 Now, unethical extortion is when you have no right to take what it is you're blackmailing that person to get, right?

03:50:19.760 So, it's their intellectual property, their money, their whatever, and they're entitled to that.

03:50:24.420 And there is nothing in the spiritual realm or moral realm or legal realm that would make you entitled to have that.

03:50:32.740 So, if you do anything to take that from them, that is unethical extortion.

03:50:37.780 But what an ethical extortion is, is for example, if a man comes to my residence and breaks in my home, and I hold a gun to his head, and I say, get out of my house, or I'm going to shoot you, that's ethical extortion.

03:51:02.100 Because I am commanding him to do something, and if he doesn't, I am going to hold him accountable to suffering the consequences of that action.

03:51:11.900 And that is ethical.

03:51:12.860 But that wouldn't be extortion.

03:51:14.740 But that is what I'm talking about when I'm saying ethical extortion.

03:51:18.140 It is simply holding people accountable and as a person, person to person, executing judgment on them.

03:51:25.820 Because it's something that you're so sure is right before God, you're just willing to do it.

03:51:33.700 And if you were in the wrong, you're willing to suffer legal consequences. 0.79

03:51:38.040 Meaning, you're so sure that that person deserves to die, you tell them.

03:51:43.640 Do you mean in the case of your home being broken in? 0.83

03:51:46.000 Well, any case.

03:51:46.980 Like, any case where you have been wronged.

03:51:50.160 Do you think that Brian deserves to be unalive?

03:51:55.820 There were his moments.

03:51:57.400 I mean, do you think, honestly, he deserves that?

03:52:01.440 Honestly, I can't tell what's in Brian's heart and soul.

03:52:05.300 No, I mean, what do you think?

03:52:06.580 Do you think he deserves it?

03:52:11.780 Only time will tell.

03:52:13.760 Yeah, but what do you think right now?

03:52:18.500 From what I can see.

03:52:22.380 Do I deserve it?

03:52:23.420 I mean, for sure, I deserve it, right?

03:52:26.580 Well, if we're just talking of what I know of you two up until this point, nothing in the future.

03:52:32.020 Nothing in the future.

03:52:32.720 I would say you are contributing to more brokenness than healing.

03:52:42.980 And thus, I would rather you not be here, yes.

03:52:45.680 Okay.

03:52:45.940 So, if that's the case, if you have declared, much like the burglar, to intend to do us harm, then aren't we engaging in ethical, ethical, what was the word you used?

03:53:02.480 Extortion.

03:53:03.280 Uh-huh, correct.

03:53:03.800 Aren't we engaging in ethical extortion by basically saying, well, now you do this or else because you're basically threatening to do everything in the world to us as to and including leading us down a road to being unalived if necessary because you think we're doing more harm than good.

03:53:21.120 But wouldn't Brian, then, be the one who is conducting ethical extortion if he fought back against that?

03:53:28.280 He can try because ethical...

03:53:30.400 But I mean, wouldn't he be?

03:53:31.660 Here's the thing with ethical extortion.

03:53:33.440 It literally only works if you're right, if you are in the right.

03:53:37.960 Like when somebody declares that they're going to try to do everything they can to destroy your life to the point that you unalive yourself, don't you think that from their perspective they would say, uh, since you've made that declaration, now anything I do back to you is justified?

03:53:51.640 Again, you can try it, but if it wasn't...

03:53:54.000 That's not my question.

03:53:54.920 My question isn't whether or not you can try it.

03:53:57.100 Of course, you could try anything.

03:53:58.240 My question is, from the perception of the person you're declaring that to, would it not then, from their perspective, be reasonable to say, wait, if that's what you want to do to me, then any defense mode I have back, you deserve it?

03:54:12.400 They would think that.

03:54:13.840 I would think that they would think that.

03:54:14.800 Yeah, so then aren't you perpetuating, and this is why Christianity, by the way, superior to your worldview, aren't you perpetuating the very same value which you're accusing the other person of violating?

03:54:26.480 Yes, and it's called eye for an eye, you reap what you sow, and so I don't believe anything would come of unethical extortion towards a person using ethical extortion. 0.97

03:54:36.440 If I actually wronged you in a way that was not compensatory to how you had wronged me, shit's not going to go well for me, it would go well for you.

03:54:45.520 Then if it's true that you reap what you sow, if you utilize eye for an eye against a person, they snatch your eye, then you snatch theirs. 0.95

03:54:53.140 So then, therefore, they go and they snatch your this, and so you take out this.

03:54:57.460 Isn't the entire purpose of breaking the cycle of you reap what you sow actually meaning this, that if somebody attacks you and you're forgiving towards that person and walk away from it, you are then reaping that down the road that people will be forgiving towards you?

03:55:13.020 The thing is, is each of us as adults have the responsibility to hold other adults accountable when it comes to the harm of children.

03:55:24.000 It's just a God-given responsibility.

03:55:25.820 If you don't have it, you're not from God then.

03:55:27.280 What moral standard are you appealing to?

03:55:29.880 What God?

03:55:31.340 The God of creation. 0.98

03:55:32.020 The God that thinks you should be a sex worker? 0.97

03:55:34.840 That's not the God I worship.

03:55:36.420 The God of creation is a lot bigger than your ideology of it.

03:55:43.480 Well, what is it?

03:55:44.900 You don't even know what my ideology is or what I think the God of creation is.

03:55:48.420 You just told me that God would never endorse sex work.

03:55:52.900 No.

03:55:53.400 Well, yeah, that's true.

03:55:54.640 He wouldn't.

03:55:55.240 But, I mean, that's very clear that he wouldn't.

03:55:57.360 How is it very clear?

03:55:58.700 Because he gives a commandment about coveting.

03:56:00.900 And he also gives a commandment about adultering.

03:56:03.340 How did Mary get pregnant? 1.00

03:56:04.900 It was through divinity. 1.00

03:56:08.400 So God fucked her. 1.00

03:56:09.580 No, God didn't fuck her. 1.00

03:56:11.500 I'm sorry. 1.00

03:56:12.240 Did God fuck the earth to make Adam too? 0.98

03:56:14.640 Basically. 0.98

03:56:15.960 Basically or yes?

03:56:20.480 Over a long evolutionary process, yes.

03:56:23.100 Oh, okay.

03:56:23.720 So no.

03:56:24.320 So the answer is no.

03:56:25.180 No, the answer is yes.

03:56:25.860 No. 0.97

03:56:26.020 Well, the answer would be no because that's not fucking anything. 0.97

03:56:28.360 Well, the answer is yes. 0.95

03:56:28.700 How? 0.55

03:56:29.180 How is that sex? 1.00

03:56:31.100 Fucking something infers penetrating. 0.99

03:56:33.380 Penetrating one thing that is structural and able to penetrate is then penetrating something else. 0.99

03:56:41.740 Yeah, you're just using the word penetrating a lot, but not telling me how this is sex. 0.92

03:56:46.000 Sex is penetration. 0.80

03:56:47.320 How did God have sex with the earth which led to evolution? 0.98

03:56:50.480 Because the consciousness of God penetrated physical matter. 0.98

03:56:55.640 So all sex is to you is penetration?

03:56:57.560 Yes. 0.99

03:56:57.880 Oh, okay. 0.99

03:56:58.920 So I just had sex? 1.00

03:57:04.560 Fucking brilliant. 1.00

03:57:06.200 I'm going to go have a smoke now. 0.99

03:57:07.680 Okay. 0.91

03:57:09.280 Now that I've had sex. 0.96

03:57:11.420 He did penetrate that piece of paper. 0.99

03:57:16.200 A bit of a one pump chump, but he did penetrate the piece of paper.

03:57:22.300 However, I do want to come back to, so you said eye for an eye, and you said that you think it would be better if me and Andrew were not around, to put it lightly.

03:57:39.520 And so you feel that's warranted because why?

03:57:48.880 Well, like I said, I believe up until this point of what I know of you, and I know of your platform, I believe you are, in a sense, doing more harm than good.

03:57:59.120 Simple as that.

03:57:59.800 And so for this reason, you believe that me and Andrew should be assassinated?

03:58:09.860 Yeah, or just not exist anymore, because what's the point of you being here?

03:58:13.740 If you're not helping, if you're not helping heal, and you're not contributing any solutions to society, literally, why are you here?

03:58:23.480 I don't understand.

03:58:24.660 What is your point?

03:58:25.320 What makes you judge, jury, and executioner when it comes to determining the value which we provide to society?

03:58:33.660 I'm observing.

03:58:34.680 Are you God?

03:58:35.320 I'm an incarnation of God, yes.

03:58:37.420 I wish Andrew was here.

03:58:38.540 You are God.

03:58:41.240 You could be too, if you were actually doing what God made you to do, which is protect and serve women and children.

03:58:51.860 My job is not to protect and serve women.

03:58:54.860 It actually is.

03:58:55.580 That is your divine calling, and you're not doing it, so therefore, you're not in alignment with source.

03:59:00.920 Did you learn that at St. Baptist?

03:59:03.300 What was it, the Baptist, or what was the...

03:59:05.780 No, I learned that from life.

03:59:08.180 Well, you said God.

03:59:10.860 The Christian God? 0.98

03:59:11.940 Which God are we referring to?

03:59:12.940 The God of life.

03:59:14.000 The creator of life.

03:59:15.760 Okay.

03:59:16.360 The cosmos and the biological matter.

03:59:18.640 So you feel that it is warranted, then, that me and Andrew are deleted because we hurt your feelings?

03:59:31.300 No, it's because I can't see you making any positive contribution to society.

03:59:35.840 Maybe Andrew's different because at least he's, I'm assuming, financially supporting a woman and child.

03:59:41.380 So you can only contribute to society as a man if you're financially supporting women? 0.54

03:59:45.380 You can only contribute to society as a man if you are serving and protecting women and children. 1.00

03:59:53.720 If you are not serving and protecting women and children, then you are failing at your calling as a man.

04:00:01.540 You're failing at your primary basic calling as a man is literally to serve and protect women.

04:00:08.100 If any woman is coming into your presence and you are genuinely having the mindset and the intention to protect her and serve her, a woman feels that, Brian. 0.73

04:00:23.980 We feel it.

04:00:25.140 So if we don't feel it, then, therefore, you're not serving and protecting us.

04:00:29.960 And I don't see the point of your existence.

04:00:31.840 Because if you're not serving and protecting, you basically turn into a predator.

04:00:35.940 That is the most man-hating and misandrist thing I've ever heard. 0.98

04:00:40.160 That if a man is not serving women, that he is a predator, that he is useless. 0.68

04:00:47.800 On its face, that is, like I said, one of the most man-hating, misandrist things I've ever heard on the show.

04:00:55.420 Again, though, so because you think or you feel that we've hurt your feelings and perhaps the feelings of other people,

04:01:03.760 you think that eye for an eye, that violence can be done upon me and Andrew on this basis alone.

04:01:10.980 It's nothing to do with my feelings as an individual.

04:01:16.080 It's everything to do with the environment of hostility that you are promoting on your platform.

04:01:25.040 I believe it's very dangerous to society.

04:01:27.500 Right now, especially right now.

04:01:29.060 How is it dangerous to society?

04:01:30.760 The minds that we have in this generation are not the same as your mind and my mind when we were growing up.

04:01:36.860 Do you think porn is good or bad for society?

04:01:39.020 I think that unconscious, addictive, fake, like acting, porn is very toxic to society.

04:01:49.660 You produce porn.

04:01:51.560 I show my genuine, authentic sexuality. 0.99

04:01:55.340 So I'm not faking anything.

04:01:57.220 I am not, I am literally expressing.

04:02:00.700 You twerk on your Instagram. 0.76

04:02:02.480 You twerk on your Instagram.

04:02:03.800 How is that authentic and genuine?

04:02:06.820 Twerking is a form of dance.

04:02:08.420 Yeah, there is nothing authentic and genuine about the porn that you're producing. 0.99

04:02:15.140 Have you watched my porn? 0.84

04:02:16.280 No, I have not. 0.99

04:02:17.180 But I mean, I've seen your Instagram and it's absolutely degenerate.

04:02:21.380 What makes it degenerate?

04:02:25.560 You just look at it and it's just degenerate.

04:02:28.460 In your opinion.

04:02:29.660 Okay.

04:02:30.320 There's many people that don't share that opinion.

04:02:32.400 Right, but despite your, despite your conduct and grievances and misconduct, I don't think you should be unalived for it.

04:02:44.240 But you seem to think that because people hurt your feelings, they should be physically violently attacked.

04:02:51.840 Incorrect.

04:02:51.960 Incorrect.

04:02:52.220 You literally said it.

04:02:53.360 I didn't say it was my feelings.

04:02:55.080 I said it was because, again, I'll say it for the third time because it's not landing for you, obviously.

04:03:00.060 I said it's because I believe as a mother, as a social scientist, as a healer, that what I see you propagating on your platform is extremely detrimental to the society that we are currently operating in.

04:03:15.820 These kids didn't grow up with the ideologies that Andrew did or you did.

04:03:19.200 How old are you?

04:03:19.780 How is that relevant?

04:03:21.600 I need to know your generation so I know what ideology you came in with.

04:03:25.360 Okay, 35 and 40? 1.00

04:03:27.040 These fucking kids do not have the brains you guys do. 1.00

04:03:30.680 They can't handle this shit. 1.00

04:03:32.140 We have women of all ages on the show. 1.00

04:03:34.180 But you have to understand that your primary male audience is probably aged 18 to 25.

04:03:41.280 I studied that.

04:03:42.600 No, actually, I mean, looking at our YouTube analytics, I believe the age range is 25 to 34.

04:03:47.280 The primary male audience is 25 to 34.

04:03:50.140 Okay, well, let's say you have 10% who are in the younger generation who literally the propaganda and the brainwash and the lack of being able to at all handle a trigger.

04:04:05.740 Wait, I'm triggering the male audience? 0.99

04:04:08.220 I'm saying these young ones cannot handle this shit that you guys are propagating. 1.00

04:04:14.160 They can't handle words. 1.00

04:04:14.880 They can't handle words.

04:04:17.280 They don't know how to critically think anymore.

04:04:20.000 So when you guys promote something and you are guys that they look up to.

04:04:24.880 We have a dating podcast.

04:04:25.800 We talk about dating and sometimes it gets about culture war and political stuff.

04:04:30.180 But mostly about dating.

04:04:31.620 And we talk, like I said, culture war, political stuff.

04:04:33.960 Andrew, or Brian, are you trying to argue or do you want to know why I am telling you I wouldn't mind if you disappeared?

04:04:41.040 That's what I'm trying to get at.

04:04:42.320 It's not something you can argue with.

04:04:44.040 That is why I'm telling you I would rather.

04:04:46.900 I mean, you're honestly like.

04:04:47.960 It's your truth. 0.99

04:04:48.640 You're a despicable person, to be honest. 1.00

04:04:50.560 Okay. 0.97

04:04:50.840 I mean, to say that you'd rather somebody, even, even the, there's no, there's no person who's come on the show and there's plenty of women who have, who have done malicious things on the show. 0.99

04:05:03.660 So, uh, I don't wish any of them because they're pussies, they're pussies. 1.00

04:05:09.920 Hold on. 1.00

04:05:10.240 Nobody understands when you're a fucking parent and you have children that you are literally watching day in and day out. 1.00

04:05:18.680 Concealed man donated $100. 1.00

04:05:21.520 You're allowing this psychotic degenerate woman to have her way all on you. 1.00

04:05:26.160 She says she's a mother and yet she wishes death upon you. 1.00

04:05:29.560 This is the exact reason why her child should be taken away.

04:05:32.960 911.

04:05:35.860 Uh, thank you, concealed man.

04:05:37.180 Again, really quick.

04:05:38.900 We've had a lot of women on the show. 1.00

04:05:40.580 Some of them have not conducted themselves properly.

04:05:43.480 I don't wish harm, physical, any sort of physical harm or death on any of them.

04:05:48.540 But because me and Andrew hurt your fifis, we hurt your feelings. 0.88

04:05:52.840 I'll say it for the fourth time. 1.00

04:05:54.580 You're insane. 0.98

04:05:55.160 It's nothing to do with my personal feelings. 0.99

04:05:58.640 It has everything to do with your personal feelings. 0.87

04:06:00.480 I was looking at it from the perspective of a social scientist who is literally studying what the fuck is going wrong with these kids because it's not okay right now. 0.94

04:06:11.380 And you think that's... 0.96

04:06:12.080 No, you said he couldn't argue with your truth.

04:06:14.220 That is your feelings.

04:06:15.240 It can't be the truth.

04:06:17.720 Fine. 0.97

04:06:17.900 If you want to call it my feelings based in the fucking science right now, sure. 1.00

04:06:23.700 Based on the fucking statistics. 0.99

04:06:26.200 And I could just... 1.00

04:06:26.300 What?

04:06:26.660 The statistics aren't telling...

04:06:28.600 Science can't give you aughts.

04:06:30.040 The statistics are saying...

04:06:31.980 Science is an is.

04:06:32.980 ...psychopaths aren't getting younger and younger.

04:06:36.140 But it doesn't tell you what you ought to do with that information.

04:06:39.560 Is claims are not ought claims.

04:06:41.120 You saying science...

04:06:42.320 Science backs up my ought.

04:06:43.860 Science can't back up your ought.

04:06:45.760 Ought claims are not made scientifically.

04:06:47.860 Those are just is claims.

04:06:48.940 This is true.

04:06:49.660 Why should you be allowed to live?

04:06:50.680 What are you contributing?

04:06:51.840 This is true.

04:06:52.220 This is true.

04:06:53.120 What are you contributing to society?

04:06:55.340 I have contributed to the next generation and still am.

04:06:58.940 How?

04:06:59.280 What are you talking about?

04:07:00.140 What are you contributing?

04:07:00.280 Because I'm still raising it.

04:07:01.700 How are you raising them? 1.00

04:07:02.820 I have fucking children, lady. 1.00

04:07:04.660 Are they allowed to twerk if they want? 1.00

04:07:07.020 No.

04:07:07.400 Of course not.

04:07:09.380 Of course not.

04:07:10.560 So your children have to act...

04:07:11.700 Are your children allowed to get mogered on their face like you do in your pics?

04:07:16.680 My children... 1.00

04:07:17.500 Is your child allowed to go suck a dick right now? 1.00

04:07:20.200 Or is mommy going to pat him on the head and say, good job, sweetheart? 1.00

04:07:23.600 Listen.

04:07:24.340 Answer the question.

04:07:26.100 I just answered yours.

04:07:26.980 If that is genuinely where my children were at in their development and they were ready

04:07:32.420 to take on those expressions of their personal sexuality, I would do everything I could to

04:07:39.500 make sure that they were supported in making healthy decisions for themselves.

04:07:43.780 What's the difference between Desiree and the battery?

04:07:45.540 At least the battery has a positive side.

04:07:47.780 So the answer is yes.

04:07:49.660 I'm sorry that I won't let my daughter's twerk.

04:07:55.000 I don't believe that children were born to be indoctrinated by the belief systems of their

04:08:00.540 parents.

04:08:00.960 I believe that every child was born with their own thought processes, their own giftings,

04:08:08.840 their own callings in life.

04:08:10.320 And when you...

04:08:10.780 I just have a simple question.

04:08:11.600 When you impose made up morals based on a certain cultural ideology, I believe that's

04:08:18.400 child abuse.

04:08:18.980 Don't you believe all morals are made up?

04:08:21.400 I believe, yes.

04:08:23.160 Morals are man-made, but there is a code of ethics that we should be born in with.

04:08:27.760 Which is man-made also?

04:08:28.480 No.

04:08:28.800 Ethics are coming from God. 0.99

04:08:30.220 Oh, so it's...

04:08:31.380 Okay.

04:08:31.960 So your ethics come from God.

04:08:34.200 Correct.

04:08:34.600 Do you believe that everybody should follow the ethics of this God you believe in?

04:08:37.760 I do.

04:08:38.660 Okay.

04:08:39.360 So how do you get them to follow those ethics if they're doing the wrong thing for your

04:08:45.380 God?

04:08:46.500 Here's the thing.

04:08:47.640 No, no, no.

04:08:48.060 The wrong stuff sorts out when...

04:08:49.300 No, no, no.

04:08:49.620 I've got to answer my question here.

04:08:51.020 What is your question?

04:08:52.060 So here's what I'm asking you specifically.

04:08:55.440 Morality is just a human construct.

04:08:57.800 However, the morals which you get from your God are objective.

04:09:01.460 And because they're objective, everybody ought to follow them.

04:09:05.120 Ought to.

04:09:06.200 Right?

04:09:06.640 Everybody should or they're doing something wrong.

04:09:09.200 Right?

04:09:11.440 Honestly, I don't understand what you're asking.

04:09:13.920 Are the...

04:09:14.640 When your God tells you what is moral, this God that you worship?

04:09:18.980 Well, my God is more like here.

04:09:21.000 You're the God?

04:09:22.180 I'm embodying God.

04:09:24.040 Okay.

04:09:24.340 You're embodying God.

04:09:25.140 Got it.

04:09:26.080 So you're God?

04:09:27.900 Correct.

04:09:28.500 Okay.

04:09:28.760 So if you're God, then everything you say is what's moral?

04:09:34.040 Well, remember I said I am not going with morals.

04:09:37.220 I'm going with ethics.

04:09:38.480 Okay.

04:09:38.700 There's a difference.

04:09:39.120 So everything you say is ethical?

04:09:41.200 Yes.

04:09:41.500 I believe it is.

04:09:41.940 Okay.

04:09:42.320 And are you going to teach your children that?

04:09:43.880 Yes.

04:09:44.160 That's what I teach them. 0.99

04:09:44.800 Then you're fucking procrastinating children. 0.99

04:09:48.000 But here's the thing. 0.99

04:09:49.200 But here's the thing.

04:09:50.120 Oh, here's the thing.

04:09:50.660 You always give them multiple ways to look at things.

04:09:53.760 That's really weird.

04:09:54.780 If your ethical system is correct and it is morally objective and you tell your kids not

04:10:01.060 to follow it, then you're telling them to be immoral by your own standard.

04:10:06.400 Okay.

04:10:07.600 I think that you have gotten to the point where you don't want to understand what I'm saying.

04:10:12.160 Oh, no, no, no.

04:10:12.900 I understand completely.

04:10:13.980 In fact, I'm going to steel man it for you.

04:10:15.800 Here's what you just said.

04:10:17.120 I am God.

04:10:17.880 Everything which I say is ethical.

04:10:19.720 Great.

04:10:20.000 So, is all things moral come from you?

04:10:22.220 I think they do.

04:10:23.340 Do you teach your children that system?

04:10:24.900 Yes.

04:10:25.560 Great.

04:10:26.080 That means that you are teaching your children what are, from your perspective, objective

04:10:30.480 morals.

04:10:31.360 But you also allow them to move towards other systems.

04:10:34.580 If that is the case, then you're allowing them to move towards immoral systems.

04:10:37.740 False.

04:10:38.580 Okay.

04:10:38.860 I am not imposing a moral code onto my children.

04:10:41.600 But shouldn't you be if that is what's moral?

04:10:43.660 No.

04:10:43.980 I am allowing my children to discover the truth of their own being.

04:10:50.440 Because I believe that the ethics that are God-given are embedded in the truth of who

04:10:57.260 we are born being. 0.99

04:10:59.320 And if you fuck with that by... 1.00

04:11:01.760 Since you're God, can you give me your Ten Commandments? 1.00

04:11:04.640 The same Ten Commandments that are in the Bible.

04:11:06.960 The same?

04:11:08.180 That I should have no God above you?

04:11:10.820 Well, no.

04:11:11.560 The Ten Commandments.

04:11:12.500 You want me to make up a Ten Commandment?

04:11:13.560 I have five.

04:11:16.100 In the early modern period, from about 1,400 to 1775, about 100,000 people were prosecuted

04:11:24.440 for witchcraft in Europe and British America.

04:11:27.300 That's because they were conducting abortions. 1.00

04:11:30.120 Thank you.

04:11:30.680 So, over here to this, though, yeah, give me your five.

04:11:33.600 What are your five commandments from God?

04:11:42.860 Actually, I think I wrote it in here.

04:11:45.800 God can't remember her commandments?

04:11:47.940 I have a lot in here.

04:11:49.760 Trust me.

04:11:50.740 God is not omnipotent and omniscient?

04:11:54.360 Well, not when being attacked, per se.

04:11:57.020 God can't handle attacks?

04:11:59.160 He can, but it's...

04:12:00.520 Into the mic.

04:12:03.460 God doesn't know he's supposed to talk in the mic?

04:12:08.740 God's not human.

04:12:10.700 You said you're God.

04:12:12.640 I'm an embodiment of God.

04:12:15.420 Meaning, this body system, little constricted into this, God's trying to move through me.

04:12:25.020 Now, I still have some restriction because I'm in this human form.

04:12:30.300 Okay, so God is an external being.

04:12:33.080 God is...

04:12:35.440 Life itself.

04:12:41.220 Yeah, so...

04:12:42.300 God is life.

04:12:44.680 Would that make me God?

04:12:45.700 Only if you are embodying life force energy.

04:12:51.760 I see you trying to stuff and deny a lot of your life force energy and argue with God.

04:12:59.420 And argue with God.

04:13:00.320 But if I'm God, then shouldn't I be able to do that if I want to?

04:13:05.700 And isn't that good?

04:13:06.420 Here's the thing.

04:13:09.280 Everybody has the opportunity to embody God.

04:13:12.780 That doesn't mean everybody does it.

04:13:15.060 And slowly over time, I notice around age 35...

04:13:17.220 That sounds like an objective standard.

04:13:18.500 I notice by age 35, if you have denied your authentic self that you were born to be for 33, 34, 35 years,

04:13:28.420 I believe at that point, you have literally reprogrammed your own brain to follow the morals or the trends or the constructs of the time, 0.99

04:13:41.900 rather than who you were actually born to be, which might be a fucking freak. 0.99

04:13:45.980 It's the same thing you're teaching your children. 0.99

04:13:47.080 National Abul donated $100.

04:13:49.360 If your children listened to your ethical worldview and came to the conclusion that God says they should follow the way Andrew and Brian live,

04:13:57.180 would you also wish your own children no longer existed?

04:14:00.360 Fantastic question.

04:14:02.080 Desiree, this is...

04:14:03.080 If your children decided to live the same way that me and Brian live, by your standard,

04:14:07.440 wouldn't you have to wish that they weren't in existence?

04:14:09.220 Yeah, if they were to your ages, 35, and they were still propagating this,

04:14:14.200 and I saw no hope that they were going to get it, yes, I would wish them not to be here anymore.

04:14:18.300 Okay.

04:14:21.400 For the high crime of disagreeing with Mama?

04:14:24.900 No, for not creating a healthy environment on the Earth, which is the only reason humans are here.

04:14:31.740 I think we're the only ones creating it.

04:14:33.220 I think that you're stifling a healthy environment for any human being on planet Earth, personally.

04:14:37.580 Okay, so I'll just try to think of it off the top of my head.

04:14:40.940 So, essentially, I believe that the code of ethics basically come down to this.

04:14:47.220 Okay.

04:14:47.640 When we're thinking of anything we're going to do, okay, we need to...

04:14:53.960 Now, assuming the person is not a psychopath.

04:14:59.240 The psychopaths are those few people born just...

04:15:02.980 Why would it matter if they were psychopathic?

04:15:04.960 Because if they're psychopathic, they don't have the emotional structures for this to work. 0.87

04:15:11.420 It doesn't work on them.

04:15:12.420 But they still would need to follow the ethical code, right?

04:15:14.720 You could teach them cognitively how to do it.

04:15:17.420 You could...

04:15:18.160 I mean, you would hold them to the standard of this ethical code.

04:15:20.620 That's all I'm asking.

04:15:21.700 Well, yes, we should.

04:15:22.800 And if they weren't able to cognitively follow it, you should take them out.

04:15:26.900 Okay, so essentially, with everything you're thinking of doing, you want to ask yourself

04:15:32.700 these five questions.

04:15:34.240 And if you can't say yes to all five of these questions, you're not making an ethical choice.

04:15:41.000 Okay, so number one, does this, the idea of doing this or choosing this, does it give

04:15:49.140 me a greater sense of aliveness?

04:15:52.720 Do I feel more alive when I think of making that choice?

04:15:57.220 Right?

04:15:57.540 Okay, so that's the first one.

04:15:58.700 Second one, is there good in this for other people?

04:16:06.620 So meaning, is it basically like a win-win situation?

04:16:10.640 It's good for me and it's good for other people.

04:16:13.140 Okay.

04:16:13.840 Okay, number three.

04:16:15.940 Now, and I want to preface to say, good doesn't necessarily mean that somebody else is going

04:16:24.500 to like it.

04:16:25.540 Okay, what's three?

04:16:26.760 Okay, so number three is, does it align with my core values?

04:16:34.280 Okay.

04:16:35.060 Okay, so that core values is going to imply that you have gotten to know yourself.

04:16:41.000 Okay, so for example, some people are just naturally super into like animal rights, you

04:16:46.140 know, and that's very important to them.

04:16:47.360 Some people have kids and obviously-

04:16:49.360 Roth underscore PSA donated $100.

04:16:52.640 This whole podcast should be a course on debate university on how to engage with people and

04:16:58.140 keep a conversation going while getting no real answers to your questions.

04:17:02.680 Appreciate the super chat.

04:17:04.160 What's four?

04:17:05.800 Okay, and then-

04:17:08.220 Because I mean, these are real answers.

04:17:09.720 What's four?

04:17:10.040 I'm trying to remember.

04:17:13.460 Four is, do you need help from a higher power to achieve this?

04:17:21.640 Meaning, the higher power could be your idea of God, but it also could be a teacher, a parent,

04:17:27.100 you know, an elder, a therapist.

04:17:29.580 Just do I need, basically, do I need to expand myself and ask for help to do this?

04:17:35.500 Okay.

04:17:35.640 And then what's five?

04:17:36.380 And then five would be-

04:17:38.040 Almost done, right?

04:17:40.040 Sorry, it's hard to come up with that on the spot.

04:17:43.040 Five would be-

04:17:44.040 Does it require that I grow?

04:17:53.640 Basically meaning, does it take me outside my comfort zone?

04:17:56.340 Okay.

04:17:57.380 Require?

04:17:57.780 Yes.

04:17:58.200 I grow.

04:17:58.580 So if everything that you do, I believe, and you get quick at doing this when it becomes

04:18:03.680 embedded in who you are, but everything you're doing, you want to run through those things.

04:18:08.920 And you want to say yes to all of it.

04:18:11.520 If you can't say yes to all of it, you need to keep tweaking your plan because there's a

04:18:16.920 better way to do it.

04:18:17.680 I just want to let you know by your five commandments, Brian is one of the most ethical men I've ever

04:18:21.580 met.

04:18:21.880 So let's start with-

04:18:22.880 Okay.

04:18:23.300 Well, then he would have nothing to worry about.

04:18:25.100 Let's start with, does this make me more alive?

04:18:28.780 Yeah.

04:18:29.340 So every single time Brian does this podcast, and according to the conversations I've had

04:18:34.320 with him afterwards, he definitely is having fun.

04:18:36.840 He's definitely getting into the spirit of things.

04:18:38.780 That's definitely part of this idea of aliveness you've described.

04:18:42.220 Is there as good in this?

04:18:43.440 Definitely.

04:18:44.060 He receives hundreds of DMs from men all over the world saying, thank you for this.

04:18:48.280 This has been great.

04:18:49.060 It's been eye-opening.

04:18:49.860 It's been very helpful to me.

04:18:51.420 Three, does it align with my values?

04:18:53.320 Most certainly aligns with Brian's values.

04:18:55.700 His value of trying to do one and two, in fact, would align with those values.

04:19:00.720 He says, do I need help from a higher power?

04:19:03.440 Very interesting way to phrase it, as Brian has been moving towards religiosity lately.

04:19:08.200 Isn't that interesting?

04:19:09.740 Because of this podcast, in fact, does it require that he grows?

04:19:14.540 Absolutely.

04:19:15.380 And you can see from the growth of his channel, you can see from the growth of him as a person

04:19:18.680 when he first started to write now.

04:19:20.060 So, according to this, Brian, the man you want to unalive by your own commandments,

04:19:25.160 is following your ethical system to the letter.

04:19:29.480 Okay.

04:19:29.900 Well, then he has nothing to worry about.

04:19:31.500 But why should he worry about something from you when he's following your ethical code?

04:19:34.620 Well, you're telling him he doesn't need to worry.

04:19:36.280 So, just tell him he doesn't need to worry.

04:19:36.720 Now, I'm asking you why he should worry if he's following your ethical code.

04:19:39.660 What standard could you hold him immoral if this is your ethical code?

04:19:42.900 Because I believe his higher power isn't quite as high as he thinks it is.

04:19:47.420 But he's following your ethical code.

04:19:51.040 Right.

04:19:51.380 But his higher power isn't the correct one.

04:19:54.740 Oh.

04:19:55.780 So, he's got the wrong god.

04:19:57.060 MMMM check.

04:19:57.080 P.L.S.S.S.

04:19:57.800 Yes.

04:19:57.900 Donated $100.

04:19:59.640 And you're, because you're god.

04:20:00.480 Cliff notes.

04:20:01.600 Diabolical hedonism.

04:20:03.500 Good lesson next.

04:20:04.760 Yeah.

04:20:05.020 I'm going to go get some more.

04:20:05.800 Thank you, check.

04:20:06.580 I'm good.

04:20:06.880 If you want to keep going on that, I thought that was fantastic, actually.

04:20:10.560 Yeah, so, well.

04:20:11.100 While she's getting up.

04:20:12.280 Yeah.

04:20:12.600 Okay.

04:20:13.440 Lip gloss.

04:20:14.280 I can hear it.

04:20:14.560 I can hear it.

04:20:15.300 Yes, I don't really understand.

04:20:18.040 What of the, when you say higher power, what higher power are you referencing that he doesn't

04:20:22.640 follow that you follow?

04:20:25.060 I don't get that.

04:20:26.880 Well, I suppose we'll wait until she's back.

04:20:31.140 We do have a message here.

04:20:33.200 Maddie, can you read it?

04:20:34.740 People have an inability to understand that their sense of right is subjective.

04:20:39.320 No human on earth has the ability to be all right, all knowing.

04:20:43.320 That's why we have voting.

04:20:44.820 Brand drew protect women and children by conserving true masculine values in modern health.

04:20:50.140 So, anyway, so, Brian, you say he's not the embodiment of these values because of three,

04:20:55.440 which, I'm sorry, four.

04:20:57.180 Do you need help?

04:20:58.080 But you didn't frame four as a specific God.

04:21:03.900 In fact, you framed four, and I took a cliff note here, as you could be appealing to X,

04:21:08.600 you could be appealing to Y, you could be appealing to Z. 0.97

04:21:11.140 You didn't say you had to appeal to your specific God.

04:21:14.220 It's interesting that you changed the answer to now it has to be your specific God when

04:21:18.860 we use your own value judgment and realize that Brian is living up to the very ethical

04:21:23.100 standards you demand he lives up to.

04:21:24.720 So, you posed the question in a little bit more of an understandable way before this,

04:21:32.080 when I was going to get my lip gloss.

04:21:34.000 You had said, well, then who is that God?

04:21:37.660 And I would say the God is the God of authenticity.

04:21:40.960 So, the only reason I'm saying that Andrew has basically veered course, even if he's following

04:21:51.020 all those things, I don't believe that this platform and what I see the undertones of it

04:21:58.720 propagating the subculture, you could say.

04:22:01.680 I don't see the subculture being coming from your authentic self.

04:22:06.860 So, I don't understand.

04:22:08.340 This is really weird because all of these things which you have given us are a subjective metric.

04:22:14.820 And as I went through each one of them, you couldn't give me a single disagreement for

04:22:18.000 how he's not following everyone on, especially when you initially gave us the, do you need

04:22:24.980 help, which is a question as part of the commandment.

04:22:27.800 And then if you do, you reach out to X, Y, Z.

04:22:30.400 You even gave an example of something which is a higher power but not God.

04:22:33.740 You have to, essentially, if this choice that you're going to make, if that choice doesn't

04:22:44.500 require that you basically tune in to a higher guidance, whether that higher guidance comes

04:22:52.280 from your own prayer and meditation, whether it comes from you take a training course from

04:22:56.980 somebody more expert in that area, wherever it comes from, talking to your grandma about

04:23:01.140 life lessons, whatever resonates for you.

04:23:03.440 But essentially, that ensures that you're having the accountability to have somebody check

04:23:10.680 you because, essentially, you're checking in with somebody, something that you think.

04:23:16.100 How could you be held to more of an account than already following each one of these commandments,

04:23:22.320 actually allowing your accuser to face you, giving the accuser a platform in front of thousands

04:23:28.140 in which to face you down, and following the ethical system provided by the accuser to

04:23:33.960 the letter, how in the world can you reconcile that Brian bad guy when he's doing all of the

04:23:39.320 things on the list?

04:23:39.860 When you're talking about accountability, for instance, being held accountable to the world

04:23:43.600 in a way that you're not, daily.

04:23:47.640 He's being held accountable in a way that I'm not?

04:23:49.980 Yeah.

04:23:50.140 Yeah, because Brian has tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of people who tune in

04:23:55.620 to ridicule every aspect of his life every single day across the entire world.

04:24:01.320 This is not isolated to the United States.

04:24:02.860 This is Canada, United States, Mexico, South America.

04:24:05.600 This is all over Australia. 0.99

04:24:07.460 This is, I mean, there's probably motherfuckers in Antarctica, on some station in Antarctica, 0.98

04:24:11.800 and hang on, hang on, in a battleship somewhere, who are sitting off the coast watching this 0.99

04:24:17.840 fucking program and holding Brian accountable. 0.99

04:24:20.240 I can't think of a man held to more of an account on the internet than Brian fucking Atlas, 0.99

04:24:25.100 who is following all of your ethical systems, and then when you say the one problem you have

04:24:29.700 is there's no way to hold him accountable, he's being held accountable by way more people

04:24:33.960 than you are.

04:24:34.580 No, I didn't say that.

04:24:35.600 I was simply saying, I was explaining the reason behind why that number was an accountability

04:24:46.420 system, and that's why it's part of a code of ethics.

04:24:49.420 That's all I was saying.

04:24:50.400 I wasn't denying.

04:24:51.340 And you know what?

04:24:51.860 I want to say this.

04:24:52.960 What I want to say is, what I like about ethical extortion, as I called it, is my words will

04:25:00.120 fall flat if you don't deserve what I'm saying.

04:25:03.580 It wouldn't even, that's why I can have, I can threaten you because the reason I can

04:25:09.920 threaten you is because if I do threaten you and nothing happens, well, then you just didn't

04:25:13.480 deserve it.

04:25:14.280 Yes.

04:25:14.780 Yeah.

04:25:14.960 That's very true.

04:25:15.500 That's very convenient, isn't it?

04:25:17.040 Well, you're doing the same thing to me.

04:25:18.420 How have I ever threatened you or said a word about you being unalive?

04:25:22.720 Okay.

04:25:23.260 Here's the thing.

04:25:23.940 Your tone and the way that you degrade me and every thought I have, it essentially is

04:25:35.840 promoting the message to anybody who would resonate with that frequency of speaking to 1.00

04:25:43.220 somebody, it's telling all of them, she's a piece of shit. 1.00

04:25:47.280 Yeah. 1.00

04:25:47.640 She's a piece of shit. 1.00

04:25:49.220 Don't listen to anything she says. 1.00

04:25:51.080 She's useless. 1.00

04:25:52.100 She's dumb. 1.00

04:25:52.720 And by the way, anybody who at all reminds you of her, also don't listen to them. 1.00

04:25:58.020 Yeah, I would actually stand behind the idea that you are dumb and crazy and that nobody 0.99

04:26:04.560 should ever listen to you, but I have good justifiable reasons for why I think that, which 0.99

04:26:09.900 have been demonstrated.

04:26:11.420 The idea that I'm not following your moral system is laughable.

04:26:15.280 I hold myself to a way higher standard than what your ethical system is, and so does Brian.

04:26:21.120 That's what's wild to me.

04:26:22.500 And then it's like, okay, but what about being held to account?

04:26:24.620 Not only is he held to account by tens and hundreds of thousands of people, but he's

04:26:29.920 actually allowing you to confront him right now.

04:26:32.580 How could you be held more accountable ever?

04:26:34.880 And you know who disengaged, who didn't want to hold Brian Atlas to account?

04:26:39.260 You.

04:26:40.200 Because the second he had an opportunity to engage, and the second he thought, oh, wait,

04:26:44.980 I might be wrong, you shut down, you started crying, you pouted, and you rage quit.

04:26:49.820 Imagine you being the person who could finally hold someone to account who fell short of your

04:26:54.120 ethical system, and when you get the opportunity, you just start bawling like a baby and rage quit.

04:27:00.080 I don't really believe that it's necessary for me.

04:27:06.920 Wookiee Mountain donated $200.

04:27:09.960 I have listened to every episode of Whatever, followed politics for years, seen horrifying

04:27:15.580 things in my own life.

04:27:17.220 I have never seen or heard such delusional, horrifying BS in my life.

04:27:23.180 I just have to get a protein.

04:27:24.360 Yeah, yeah, no problem. 1.00

04:27:27.320 Darn. 0.98

04:27:28.280 That was a, that was a, what was the question you asked just right before that? 0.99

04:27:34.000 It was.

04:27:34.160 I said, how is it when you finally have the opportunity to confront the person who you

04:27:40.160 think is so problematic, instead of actually doing the confrontation, you break down and

04:27:45.640 start crying and leave because they disagree with why you hate them.

04:27:49.040 That just, that's just nuts to me.

04:27:53.080 So there's so, it's such a rare opportunity that anybody ever gets inside of these spaces

04:27:58.200 ever to confront the people that they have a problem with in front of their audience, on

04:28:03.700 their turf.

04:28:05.100 And yet when you did it, you fell apart in five seconds.

04:28:08.160 If I can just add to that really quick, I will, I frequently will have people who make

04:28:13.080 videos criticizing me, criticizing the show, criticizing Andrew.

04:28:17.980 They'll voice their criticisms on Twitter.

04:28:20.160 They'll make YouTube videos about it, news articles, whatever.

04:28:23.140 And I'll actually invite these people on for them to actually face me, face Andrew and

04:28:29.780 voice their actual criticisms and critiques.

04:28:33.520 Now, when I attempted multiple times to explore, so you could hold me to account and hold me

04:28:39.780 accountable for the ways in which you think I'm conducting myself inappropriately or poorly,

04:28:46.300 when I've given you the opportunity, every, in every instance, you've just shut down, you

04:28:52.680 hit your little no joke button or whatever.

04:28:55.280 So, I mean, I just have to ditto and echo exactly what Andrew said here.

04:28:58.820 I mean, he raised a fantastic point.

04:28:59.860 Well, I'm going to get in my counter argument and the last thing I'll say on this point,

04:29:03.280 wherever you want to move it.

04:29:04.800 The reason that I believe that you shut down is because it was the first time in a long

04:29:08.820 time you've been held to account for something.

04:29:11.940 And the second you get held to account, well, wait a second, I was here to just go after you.

04:29:17.020 What about the court case that I'm in right now?

04:29:18.660 What about it?

04:29:19.440 What is that?

04:29:19.920 The one that you just won and thanked the entire whatever podcast?

04:29:23.360 I haven't even gotten to court yet.

04:29:25.140 We only have done the mitigation, which is why I had to...

04:29:28.120 Huh?

04:29:28.360 Are you the plaintiff?

04:29:29.160 Which one's that?

04:29:30.660 Did you bring the case or did somebody else bring the case?

04:29:32.420 No, the ex did.

04:29:34.080 What kind of case is it?

04:29:35.840 It's a custody case.

04:29:37.360 I thought you said that you got full custody.

04:29:40.520 I have full custody right now because they're not safe with their dad while the investigation

04:29:45.080 is gone.

04:29:45.520 How is that not being held to account?

04:29:46.880 There's a distinct...

04:29:47.240 How is that not being held to account?

04:29:49.080 I'll explain.

04:29:49.320 Because here you have a process in which you're being held.

04:29:52.800 The stakes, right, while high, are actually kind of low.

04:29:57.800 In other words, you could have your kids taken away by your ex in this instance, right?

04:30:03.780 And I'm not hoping that this happens, but I'm just saying if it did, you could always

04:30:08.460 say that had nothing to do with me.

04:30:10.520 That's because the court system was unjust and unfair.

04:30:12.600 It's because of this, it's because of that, you could make all of those claims.

04:30:16.040 Much harder to make the claim when somebody else just shatters your worldview in five

04:30:20.160 seconds and you can't defend it.

04:30:22.580 There's a difference between me getting emotional because an ego construct that I really was

04:30:29.340 invested in maintaining shatters.

04:30:31.360 That's totally different.

04:30:33.340 That is not something that I do on the spot in a situation like this.

04:30:37.380 What you guys saw was genuinely, Brian can read my rantings from last night, I wasn't

04:30:44.000 even going to come.

04:30:44.900 I was literally crying myself to sleep, like scared to come.

04:30:49.020 Yeah, but that's how you deal with trauma.

04:30:51.400 Yeah, and so I felt that I had moved enough of it out of me and he said, relax, it'll be

04:30:57.700 fine.

04:30:58.260 Don't fret.

04:30:59.200 It has been fine.

04:31:00.840 Well...

04:31:01.380 The only person who's fallen apart here today is you.

04:31:03.920 Well, obviously, I wasn't strong enough.

04:31:07.240 I cried because there's a lot of pain points.

04:31:11.780 Yeah, because you were being held to account for the horrible things that you've been saying.

04:31:15.700 No, it was because, again, I felt that...

04:31:22.380 Your points of attack weren't working and so they made you upset when there was a counterattack.

04:31:27.280 My platform and who I am is being grossly misrepresented.

04:31:31.080 You're the one representing it.

04:31:33.360 I am being pigeonholed into certain responses by you.

04:31:36.640 So you're a victim?

04:31:37.220 By you.

04:31:38.260 Yeah.

04:31:38.880 In this situation, I'm...

04:31:39.820 Yeah, so you're a victim.

04:31:40.660 I'm being victimized.

04:31:41.420 So wait a second.

04:31:43.420 So when invited on so that you could make all of your attacks, that's fair.

04:31:47.200 But if somebody counterattacks, which is what you say we should do because that's the

04:31:52.300 way in which, what did you call it, benevolent extortion is done when somebody declares their

04:31:57.820 intent to destroy you, you have every right to hit back.

04:32:00.380 So when somebody does that, after you declared your intent, you fall to pieces.

04:32:04.760 That's just not fair.

04:32:05.940 What do you do when emotion...

04:32:14.360 What do you do as a man, as a coping strategy, perhaps?

04:32:19.260 How do you hold it together when you're...

04:32:22.520 When we hear something we disagree with?

04:32:24.440 No. 0.99

04:32:24.680 We don't give a fuck. 0.99

04:32:26.420 No. 0.99

04:32:26.720 When something touches your heart so deeply, the tears are coming.

04:32:33.100 I mean, I don't know.

04:32:33.940 How do you do it?

04:32:34.700 What I do, here's what I do, more than anything else.

04:32:38.340 What I do is keep my emotions under control.

04:32:41.960 But how?

04:32:42.840 I'm going to explain how.

04:32:44.560 Okay?

04:32:45.140 I have faith in the true God, the one that actually exists.

04:32:50.840 That God actually guides my life.

04:32:52.800 That God actually guides people's lives.

04:32:56.220 And there is a teleology, a telos, a purpose, I agree with you there, that people do have.

04:33:01.520 Men's purpose is not to yield to emotion, but to control emotion. 0.98

04:33:06.180 Because when we become enslaved to our emotion, we become fucking dangerous. 0.99

04:33:11.380 We become the people who are unhinged. 0.99

04:33:13.400 We rip doors off of walls in seconds.

04:33:15.480 We become super strong in seconds when you have adrenaline pumping and this type of thing in ways that are highly dangerous to society. 0.96

04:33:23.300 Society couldn't even fucking function if men didn't walk around with an exemplary amount of emotional control. 0.74

04:33:30.340 And yet what happens is women want us to respect you for saying, well, wait, I'm a very emotional creature. 0.96

04:33:36.580 And we're like, yeah, we know, but the expectations I keep it under control, my expectations that you do too, at least to some degree.

04:33:44.260 Well, the thing is, though, a woman's emotionality and what men typically call like crazy or hysteria or all of this stuff that we're hearing people call me, that is actually our protective measure because we're not as physically strong as you.

04:33:57.900 So literally all we have is basically our acting like a bear presentation.

04:34:03.900 Yeah, so you're relying on the benevolence of men.

04:34:06.120 So what I'm saying is, is your testosterone hormonally literally changes how emotions affect you versus a woman. 0.67

04:34:16.180 We literally can't do what you do. 0.96

04:34:18.220 If we do, we start fucking with our own hormonal balance. 0.90

04:34:22.180 It's interesting. I used to believe something similar to this until I started having children and I have adult female children. 0.97

04:34:30.820 And here's what's interesting.

04:34:32.340 I have seen so many times that the tears will get turned on in seconds for the purposes of manipulation under the guise of I can't control it or help it.

04:34:42.320 And then I also have seen instantly women shut this right off if they think that that behooves them. 1.00

04:34:48.400 So while I do think that women struggle with emotional control more than men, and I'm willing to grant that, I also think that they dive into it as a form of control over men, trying to play against men's benevolency of, oh, I'm just a helpless victim. 1.00

04:35:01.920 I couldn't control myself when I set your shit on fire. 0.99

04:35:05.000 It wasn't my fault that I said horrible things. 1.00

04:35:07.520 I had nothing to do with it.

04:35:08.920 It was the crazy emotions in my brain.

04:35:10.880 And it's like, well, but when it seems like you're tasked to actually control them, you seem to be able to, unless it suits you not to.

04:35:18.840 That's the problem I have.

04:35:22.960 Okay, so your daughters are the ones who gave you this trauma?

04:35:27.480 Oh my God, it's not trauma.

04:35:29.460 No, I'm just asking you.

04:35:30.320 It's observation.

04:35:32.240 Of which, so you mentioned your daughters.

04:35:34.980 Which other women are you observing this in? 1.00

04:35:36.780 Oh, I've observed it in thousands of women I've had conversations with all over the world who I've seen utilize tears specifically for the purpose of manipulation.

04:35:46.700 How do you know they were trying to manipulate?

04:35:48.420 Because later they admit it.

04:35:50.680 For instance, I've had women who have made videos where they've cried inside of videos and things like that who have later said, look, I did use that kind of as a tactic and leaned into it quite a bit, this kind of thing.

04:36:02.500 It's very obvious.

04:36:03.680 So where are you meeting these women?

04:36:05.380 Like, did you have a channel or something?

04:36:07.700 I've met a lot of them in person right here on the Whatever podcast.

04:36:10.800 I'm trying to answer your question.

04:36:13.060 I've met a lot of them here on the Whatever podcast, but I've talked to thousands of them within Discord, Telegram, Twitter, all over the fucking world I've talked to these various women. 0.99

04:36:22.840 So are you like a coach for women or how are you getting access to all these women? 0.70

04:36:24.560 No, I'm usually involved in group conversations where women also... 1.00

04:36:28.320 So you have a group?

04:36:29.080 You've got to let me answer.

04:36:30.920 I'm usually involved in group conversations.

04:36:33.560 Where do they start from?

04:36:34.580 Like a church?

04:36:35.100 Usually they...

04:36:35.620 No.

04:36:36.020 Usually they'll start on a place like Twitter.

04:36:38.420 Maybe there'll be a space where I'm trying to answer your question.

04:36:42.260 So usually you'll start with two or three people and then hundreds of people will begin to move into...

04:36:46.620 Okay, try and answer.

04:36:48.460 Then you can ask.

04:36:50.480 Then hundreds of people will move into these groups.

04:36:52.960 And yes, sometimes the groups will fracture.

04:36:54.980 You'll have five, six different people talking.

04:36:56.720 So yeah, I have discussions with women all over the world all the time and have for years.

04:37:01.840 But I'm not understanding...

04:37:03.060 They're coming to like your Twitter and leaving comments and that's how you're finding them?

04:37:06.300 No.

04:37:06.540 I'm not understanding where they're coming from.

04:37:07.240 Like a Twitter live space or a Discord live space or a YouTube live space or places like this.

04:37:13.720 So you're just leaving a comment on somebody else's video and then...

04:37:16.840 No, I'm voice chatting with them like I am with you right now.

04:37:19.580 Okay.

04:37:20.480 We're talking.

04:37:21.140 So it's your platform?

04:37:21.420 Like we're on the phone.

04:37:22.420 Like we're on the phone.

04:37:23.340 I'm sorry.

04:37:23.840 I just am not up with the technology or like what people are doing.

04:37:26.840 So I'm just trying to put it into context.

04:37:28.780 Think of them like group calls.

04:37:30.660 That you start?

04:37:31.980 Yes, that I start.

04:37:32.960 So you start it and then these women... 1.00

04:37:36.560 Where are they coming from?

04:37:37.580 I just don't understand how they're finding you.

04:37:38.660 They come from all over the internet because I'm a really popular internet personality.

04:37:42.520 So when I host faces and things like this inside of popular platforms, lots of people want to come in and listen to them.

04:37:48.180 Like you have your own cult following.

04:37:50.780 I wouldn't say it's a cult following.

04:37:52.340 I have a fan following.

04:37:53.140 Well, I'm just saying like how we call like cult classics.

04:37:54.800 I mean it like that.

04:37:55.960 If you're talking about like from the observation of a cult of personality, sure.

04:37:59.900 But if you're talking about it from the observation of like a religious cult, absolutely not.

04:38:04.080 No, no, no.

04:38:04.400 I'm not talking about that.

04:38:05.100 I'm just talking about you have a fan base of people who enjoy your thoughts or...

04:38:11.680 Or haters.

04:38:12.600 Okay.

04:38:13.000 So I have fans and haters alike and I've talked with both extensively.

04:38:17.060 Okay.

04:38:17.380 And you're saying that...

04:38:19.720 Based on the observations of both my personal life and then external life, including in the workplace, including in many different avenues,

04:38:25.640 I have seen that women very often can have emotional control but get a pass for not having emotional control. 1.00

04:38:32.280 Was your mom like that?

04:38:33.080 No.

04:38:34.020 Is your wife like that? 0.99

04:38:35.320 No.

04:38:35.720 Your first wife? 0.93

04:38:37.180 No.

04:38:38.200 What do you mean?

04:38:38.640 My black first ex-wife? 1.00

04:38:40.960 She was black? 1.00

04:38:42.380 Apparently.

04:38:42.860 Apparently.

04:38:44.620 Anyway.

04:38:45.700 So the thing is, it's like, no, nobody really...

04:38:49.960 First of all, I wouldn't marry my wife if she was like that. 1.00

04:38:54.500 Second of all, no, of course my mom wasn't like that.

04:38:57.560 My dad would have governed her behavior very quickly.

04:39:00.020 But it is something that you see very commonly in women. 1.00

04:39:02.660 Do you want it to not be true?

04:39:06.860 Listen, it's from observation.

04:39:07.740 No, I know.

04:39:08.140 I get it.

04:39:08.460 I get it.

04:39:09.120 I'm just asking, is there part of you that is longing for that not to be the case?

04:39:15.200 Would you enjoy a world in which women were no longer using... 1.00

04:39:19.600 Women were held to account? 0.98

04:39:19.960 Yes.

04:39:20.160 Yes.

04:39:20.420 Where women were no longer using emotional strategies to manipulate men.

04:39:24.920 The world would be better if women would stop doing like what you did earlier and try 1.00

04:39:30.760 to utilize emotions.

04:39:31.980 Well, this is where...

04:39:32.440 Try to utilize emotions they're not even maybe really having as defense mechanisms.

04:39:36.100 Here's the thing.

04:39:36.200 You are now in my presence telling me what my motivation was for having an emotional experience.

04:39:45.200 Now, we can agree.

04:39:46.900 Pretty interesting how easy you could turn the waterworks on and how easily you turned

04:39:49.920 them off.

04:39:50.120 Yeah, I'm a woman.

04:39:51.080 Okay, I literally have kids.

04:39:51.940 Right, exactly.

04:39:52.820 I have kids.

04:39:53.620 So you have to understand, I have become a master at having my...

04:39:57.760 Manipulation.

04:39:58.820 No, it's a master at...

04:40:00.360 We don't have time to have a full breakdown right now, honey. 1.00

04:40:02.760 You got to just let out enough of the pressure to hold your shit together. 0.99

04:40:07.540 And then we got to get back to doing what we were doing. 0.99

04:40:09.480 Honestly, it's a mom thing.

04:40:12.000 When I was younger, I would have had a full breakdown and like, I used to pass out a lot.

04:40:17.200 That's how my body...

04:40:18.060 Or I would feel sick to my stomach.

04:40:19.860 That's how my body would take me out of the situation for a long period of time.

04:40:23.540 Okay?

04:40:24.740 It's...

04:40:25.100 So none of that was emotional manipulation, the truth.

04:40:27.520 No, I'm autistic. 1.00

04:40:29.340 So then sticking your ass in my face was not supposed to be emotional manipulation? 1.00

04:40:34.300 Honestly, I was trying to get... 1.00

04:40:35.120 You were trying to get...

04:40:36.800 Yes, I was trying to shift the vibe.

04:40:38.060 I wanted us to have a funner time.

04:40:39.300 So you were trying to do emotional manipulation.

04:40:41.140 That time I was.

04:40:42.120 Yes.

04:40:42.320 That time I was.

04:40:42.920 But when I actually cried...

04:40:44.120 Because that time is the time I can hold you to account with an example you cannot refuse.

04:40:48.760 Yes.

04:40:49.200 But that doesn't mean that these other things that you're saying, they're not great examples

04:40:53.480 of it.

04:40:54.100 Just because I can't give it such an obvious representation that there's no way for you

04:40:58.720 to refute it, so you have to admit it, doesn't mean that that's not what's been going

04:41:01.940 on.

04:41:02.300 Well, I just want you to know that it is my honest truth that the crying part was genuine

04:41:11.300 emotion coming through.

04:41:12.700 And honestly, I was on the fence about even coming.

04:41:17.100 I wasn't sure I could handle it.

04:41:18.620 And I was having moments where I was like, okay, I can't handle this.

04:41:22.440 I thought I was like stronger than I am.

04:41:25.580 Well, I mean...

04:41:26.040 That was that. 0.99

04:41:26.760 The ass thing was me trying to like... 1.00

04:41:30.260 Sexually batter me? 1.00

04:41:31.120 No, I would just rather have a good time.

04:41:33.900 I would rather just us talk about fun topics without it having to be like, your opinion

04:41:38.600 has to trump mine.

04:41:39.860 Yeah, but that wasn't even really how it started.

04:41:43.360 The first sets of questions weren't even really revolving around debate, but just trying to

04:41:48.240 get an understanding of how you think.

04:41:50.140 Now that we understand how you think, we got to the point where you're making accusations

04:41:54.000 and you said all these horrible things.

04:41:56.620 You're being held to account for the horrible things you were saying.

04:41:59.280 That's when you started crying.

04:42:01.120 That's why I think that it might be a tactic for emotional manipulation.

04:42:04.660 The second you were being held to account for, I said all kinds of horrible things to

04:42:09.660 you guys, which maybe weren't even justified, but just based on my feelings, now I'm using...

04:42:14.680 I'm going to turn on the waterworks, right?

04:42:16.380 Okay.

04:42:16.740 So let's just be clear.

04:42:19.240 You both believe that I am a liar.

04:42:21.780 It's just as simple as that.

04:42:22.600 Well, if he does, I do.

04:42:23.600 It's just as simple as that.

04:42:24.540 I do.

04:42:25.060 Okay.

04:42:25.080 So Andrew believes I'm a liar.

04:42:25.960 Do you believe I'm a liar?

04:42:27.640 I don't really see how this is relevant, but...

04:42:29.520 It's relevant because we can just cut to the chase.

04:42:32.300 If you both believe I'm a liar, then it doesn't matter what I say.

04:42:36.840 You're not going to respect it. 0.59

04:42:38.320 You're going to always say that I cried to manipulate you because you believe I'm a liar.

04:42:43.480 So what would be the point of me defending that?

04:42:46.220 There's no point.

04:42:47.580 It's a null and void issue.

04:42:50.220 Just move on. 0.91

04:42:50.720 Well, I believe I've caught you in multiple lies and you're a manipulator. 0.90

04:42:53.620 Yes, I do believe that.

04:42:55.460 But that's only based on my experience with you in the last few hours we've been here.

04:43:03.600 I do have a question.

04:43:04.920 A couple of things I want to hit on here.

04:43:06.820 You said that the justification for why you think me and Andrew should cease to exist,

04:43:12.900 is because we are propagating certain things, certain negative things, I suppose,

04:43:18.880 at least from your perspective.

04:43:21.660 Can you articulate precisely what it is we are propagating?

04:43:25.080 I mean, I have shared explicitly with you throughout messages,

04:43:45.560 so I would like to actually gauge your concern and active listening to the extensive explanations

04:43:54.400 and messages I've sent.

04:43:55.720 So I would...

04:43:56.560 You think I've committed your walls of texts and paragraphs to memory?

04:44:01.220 Why are you...

04:44:02.020 Why don't you just, instead of wasting time, instead of saying,

04:44:04.700 Brian, you just do the work and go through the, like, literally not the novel of text you've sent me,

04:44:11.600 and you can outline, just give me three things that me and Andrew are propagating,

04:44:16.560 and it'll take you maybe 30 seconds to say it.

04:44:20.020 It's very complex issues, hence why I wrote you so much.

04:44:23.240 Huh.

04:44:23.800 I mean, that...

04:44:26.600 I think you're just obfuscating here.

04:44:29.280 You're just...

04:44:29.940 You can't even articulate it.

04:44:31.580 It's even a fallacious thinking pattern, because it's the fallacy of irreducible complexity.

04:44:38.760 So the way that this is fallacious thinking in and of itself is to say,

04:44:42.100 I cannot explain this to you because it's so complex.

04:44:45.100 It has too many variables.

04:44:46.560 It cannot be reduced down to, you know, these other things.

04:44:50.160 But every premise, every thought, everything in existence, which I can see,

04:44:54.400 starts with some principle, some core aspect of itself that we can reduce it down to,

04:45:00.800 to some degree that we can even understand it.

04:45:03.640 So I think...

04:45:04.900 I don't know.

04:45:05.740 I'll exit the convo, let you guys talk, but it just seems like it's fallacious thinking.

04:45:11.780 Well, you're welcome to stay.

04:45:13.420 Yeah, but I want to have a smoke.

04:45:14.820 Oh, okay.

04:45:15.440 All right.

04:45:17.060 So again...

04:45:17.420 Stay's been out for a while.

04:45:18.140 I do want to...

04:45:20.480 Can you try to articulate what we are propagating?

04:45:30.520 Hostility.

04:45:36.260 Okay.

04:45:37.180 Hostility.

04:45:38.020 Sure.

04:45:39.300 That's one.

04:45:40.300 Okay.

04:45:40.680 What else?

04:45:45.040 Honestly, that sums it up.

04:45:47.200 Hostility.

04:45:48.140 We're hostile.

04:45:49.960 Yeah.

04:45:50.740 How do you define hostility?

04:45:55.560 Having the intention of creating discord for the purpose of extorting something from that discord.

04:46:07.280 meaning gaining off of the atmosphere that you're creating.

04:46:21.600 Okay, so due to the perceived hostility of myself and Andrew and this podcast, you think that that is enough pretext for us to be ceasing to exist?

04:46:37.240 Well, if we were two generations ago, I would say you guys are fine.

04:46:44.200 It's no different than MMA fighting or all this stuff that guys do.

04:46:48.180 Who cares?

04:46:48.740 But because of the particular propaganda being indoctrinated into the youth right now, specifically, I don't believe they're psychologically able to handle what this show is propagating at large.

04:47:15.740 Live conversations among consenting adults who have a wide variety of worldviews and opinions will have liberal women, will have conservative women, will have moderate women on the show.

04:47:30.440 Although sometimes I'm not even involved in the disagreements, there'll be a conservative girl going after a liberal girl, a liberal girl going after a conservative girl.

04:47:39.660 So, I don't see how that is in any way damaging whatsoever.

04:47:46.080 Also, if you have some objection to this, you know, I have, relatively speaking, in the grand scheme of things, fairly little influence compared to, for example, the Goliath that is, you know, if you want to talk about propaganda,

04:48:03.320 the Goliath that is institutions like the university system in this country.

04:48:09.700 Sorry, I'm just checking on my kids because it's 20 past eight.

04:48:13.100 Sorry.

04:48:13.460 Okay.

04:48:13.840 So, why aren't you like, you know, I have a fairly small audience.

04:48:19.480 It's because...

04:48:20.140 There's massive systems out there.

04:48:21.980 Right, right.

04:48:22.340 Hold on.

04:48:23.000 There are massive systems out there in the United States that have power that far exceeds mine, that has influence that far exceeds mine.

04:48:32.360 For example, you look at the university system.

04:48:34.700 Every single university system in this country is steeped in feminism. 1.00

04:48:38.960 Feminism has its claws, not just in the university system. 1.00

04:48:42.400 These are institutions, systems, journalism, media, news, government, corporation.

04:48:48.180 Hold on.

04:48:48.540 Well, feminism has its claws in all of these institutions and systems. 1.00

04:48:54.180 I have a...

04:48:55.260 I am independently funded by myself, and I have some very generous contributors, you know, who watch the show, fan funding.

04:49:02.780 When compared to...

04:49:04.180 If we just look at the university, we remove corporations, we remove news, media, government.

04:49:09.820 We look at the university system.

04:49:11.560 They have billion-dollar endowments, and all of them have feminist study programs, women's studies program, gender study program.

04:49:21.540 And the enrollment rate, there's millions and millions of women and men in these university systems that are indoctrinated by these very systems.

04:49:32.480 So you think because I have a somewhat entertainment-focused dating podcast that sometimes gets into feminism, politics, culture war stuff, that this is a more...

04:49:44.580 I feel like you got bigger fish to fry.

04:49:46.680 You think that this is...

04:49:47.780 Here's the thing.

04:49:47.980 This is your crusade.

04:49:48.480 You're right, you're right.

04:49:49.160 No, you're right.

04:49:49.540 This is your crusade.

04:49:50.440 Brian, it's simply because I personally bumped up against you.

04:49:55.380 That's the only reason that...

04:49:56.540 And did you ask to be on the show?

04:49:58.720 Did we reach out to you, or did you reach out to us?

04:50:01.560 I did, and I have to believe that there was a reason why.

04:50:05.100 So that you can...

04:50:07.420 What's the reason?

04:50:08.200 Why don't you tell me?

04:50:09.220 I just think that I was drawn to you because I could see your aliveness, you could say.

04:50:18.360 I could see...

04:50:18.780 Isn't that one of your...

04:50:20.060 Mm-hmm.

04:50:20.680 Yeah.

04:50:20.940 That's one of her commandments. 0.87

04:50:21.660 So, you interest me, is the point.

04:50:27.140 You interest me, and I was interested in giving you the opportunity to shift things just a little bit.

04:50:39.480 Just shift things to a little bit more of a fair discussion where it's not like this energy of you two as being the professionals at everything.

04:50:54.520 But just like a genuine, this is my perspective, this is your perspective, it's not necessarily the perspective of the show.

04:51:02.040 But it's just when you create this hostile environment with all these women, you create polls, who's the good girl, who's the one everybody likes, and you play on all of their traumas, essentially. 0.96

04:51:14.260 Obviously, you put women into that kind of hysterical, emotional place, and then you guys, you are not affected by that. 1.00

04:51:23.000 So then, they're trauma responding, they're turning against each other, and you two are just, and this is why everybody loves this and not this.

04:51:32.660 And it's just, the young minds can't see through that.

04:51:35.580 They can't see that there's an agenda behind that.

04:51:37.920 I would have actually have been happy to have engaged in the beginning of this conversation by doing exactly what you're now saying to do.

04:51:49.060 To have a free flow conversation based on worldview paradigms so that you can understand where I was coming from, why I think what I think.

04:51:57.100 And I can understand where you're coming from and why you think what you think.

04:52:01.140 And then you could have come up with that idea that you have here of a solution, where it's not pitting people against each other, this and that.

04:52:08.760 But try to think of the adversarial nature of just asking some of these women basic questions about what it is they believe and how defensive they become.

04:52:18.180 There's six of them, one of me.

04:52:20.700 Seven of them, eight of them, one of Brian.

04:52:22.740 And so it seems that we're to always have an unfair advantage while everybody around us is to always have some type of advantage over us.

04:52:33.620 It's a very bizarre dynamic which is requested versus when the tables are turned.

04:52:40.180 And it's like, okay, well, I'll meet you where you want.

04:52:42.500 We can talk about the worldviews.

04:52:44.080 I'd like for you to actually see why I think what I think because I can justify a lot of it and it would make a lot of sense.

04:52:50.020 You go, nah.

04:52:51.560 But the thing is, again, I'll just repeat.

04:52:55.020 It's because it's not that I'm not interested in your worldview.

04:52:59.000 I believed I already had enough of the information.

04:53:01.860 I didn't believe that you were going to share with me anything about your worldview that I didn't already know.

04:53:06.960 So then how can your criticism of Brian, who you say you're going to be the authority on it, you're going to say this is why people like this and don't like that, right?

04:53:17.180 You're giving him a knowledge claim.

04:53:19.200 You're saying you don't know that, though, Brian.

04:53:22.460 You don't know that these other people don't know these other things.

04:53:24.940 The very first assumption you make, I already know your worldview.

04:53:27.540 Don't worry about it.

04:53:29.300 Yeah.

04:53:29.700 I guess, like I said, maybe my toxic trait is psychologically profiling people and making judgments before I even let them speak. 1.00

04:53:40.300 Because I just noticed over time that people are literally full of shit. 1.00

04:53:45.780 So I guess at some... 1.00

04:53:46.960 Including you?

04:53:48.940 Honestly, I just spew it like I see it. 1.00

04:53:51.540 And sometimes it sounds crazy to other people because they don't have my fucking mental illness going on that I do. 0.99

04:53:58.620 And so... 0.99

04:53:59.820 Wait.

04:54:00.100 What mental illness? 0.74

04:54:00.940 The mental illness of my obsessiveness about very particular things.

04:54:06.880 So it makes me weird. 0.84

04:54:08.280 It makes me a freak.

04:54:09.280 Savantism.

04:54:09.840 Savantism, yes.

04:54:10.480 So the thing is, is...

04:54:12.380 So psychological profiling is interesting in the fact that it's highly ineffective, generally, because it's very difficult to apply over a broad birth, even if you're looking for specific things.

04:54:23.520 That's why you can psychologically profile what a serial killer would be, but very difficult to apply to find one.

04:54:33.380 Well, I was raised by one, so...

04:54:36.500 I mean, maybe, but...

04:54:38.720 You learn a lot.

04:54:39.060 Your psychological profiling is not the thing which identifies them.

04:54:42.500 The thing is, we can call it autism in me, or we can call it just the extreme trauma of having to survive in conditions that no child or human was ever designed to survive.

04:54:56.360 Intel Wilde donated $100.

04:54:58.060 There's a few that are coming in.

04:54:59.360 I'm sorry that there was a delay.

04:55:00.360 I thought the green monster was in Boston at Fenway Park, but nope, it snuck into Santa Barbara at the Whatever Podcast.

04:55:07.800 Yeah.

04:55:09.120 Thank you, Intel Wilde.

04:55:10.440 Good to see you in the chat, man.

04:55:11.420 Do you want to respond to that? 0.59

04:55:13.280 He's calling you the green monster.

04:55:17.640 Cute.

04:55:18.340 Like Oscar.

04:55:19.400 Cute. 1.00

04:55:20.260 Oscar the green monster, the trash. 1.00

04:55:22.040 Isn't he the one in the trash? 1.00

04:55:23.040 There's another one coming in.

04:55:26.420 Concealed man donated $100.

04:55:29.640 Unbelievable.

04:55:30.840 A woman that promotes and encourages sex work says she's accountable and yet condemns Brian's behavior. 0.99

04:55:37.500 Her children are not safe with this maniac. 1.00

04:55:39.700 She's horrible, manipulative human. 1.00

04:55:42.800 Fuck. 1.00

04:55:46.620 I mean, you said that we don't really ever, like, change our mind on anything, but, I mean, we've tried to, uh... 0.99

04:55:54.040 Chris donated $100.

04:55:58.760 Question for Desiree.

04:55:59.880 In what fashion would you want your children to be unalived?

04:56:03.760 Shot?

04:56:04.600 Drowned?

04:56:05.540 Run over by a car?

04:56:07.300 Thrown off a cliff?

04:56:08.560 Surely you have a preference for disagreeing with you.

04:56:11.260 This is in response to you saying that if your children conducted themselves in the way that me and Andrew...

04:56:17.480 Like, if they became sociopaths or psychopaths and were creating harm to society.

04:56:26.220 Yo, Ace, thank you for the gifted 20 subs.

04:56:27.860 Sorry, I had the alerts pause there accidentally for a bit.

04:56:31.160 Go ahead.

04:56:31.540 Sorry.

04:56:31.780 You said even your own children, if they were like me and Andrew, you would want them.

04:56:41.540 If my children presented as psychopaths or sociopaths and got to the level of creating more societal harm than could be contained, then yes, I would not want them here anymore.

04:56:56.580 I mean, and do you think me and Andrew are on that level of societal harm?

04:57:08.800 I'm still discovering that.

04:57:10.980 Why don't you tell us what you actually think?

04:57:13.860 Well, remember, I had said if we were just discussing it up until this point, but there's still a lot beyond this point.

04:57:21.980 So, I do have a corner of my mind open to the possibility that you are not as bad as I'm thinking and perhaps I'm just really misunderstanding and could be wrong.

04:57:35.380 I don't think you're going to walk away from this podcast having learned anything.

04:57:38.800 I think you're going to just dig your heels in.

04:57:41.020 You're going to continue your train of thoughts on these matters.

04:57:45.200 You're going to continue threatening frivolous and vexatious legal action against me and Kit.

04:57:52.720 Actually, on that topic really quick, would you, in an effort to get to be vindictive and get revenge on somebody?

04:58:02.080 Chris donated $69.

04:58:04.740 She didn't answer the question. 0.99

04:58:06.860 Does she prefer they get shot, drowned, thrown off a cliff, light them on fire, run them over a car, or et cetera? 0.99

04:58:13.920 Let's clip this and show this to CPS. 0.99

04:58:17.180 TTS is $69.

04:58:18.900 Your answer? 0.99

04:58:21.940 Lethal injection would be the most humane. 0.92

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04:58:43.920 Really quick, I guess, to go back to my question.

04:58:47.700 Thank you for the TTS there, Anon.

04:58:49.980 So if you felt either perceived or real, if somebody, you feel like you had a grievance against somebody,

04:59:00.380 do you think it would warrant bringing a vexatious lawsuit?

04:59:06.720 So I'll just define vexatious.

04:59:09.200 Denoting an action or the bringer of an action that is brought without sufficient grounds for winning purely to cause annoyance to the defendant. 0.99

04:59:17.700 No, I don't do that shit. 0.95

04:59:19.660 I only pursue things that I'm very serious about. 0.99

04:59:22.400 Right, so what, so are your legal threats empty or do you actually intend to file a lawsuit against me?

04:59:28.840 Well, I have to see if this episode actually makes restitution for the custody situation that I'm in.

04:59:39.420 Because I need to show the court that I was not supporting or in agreement with the way that I was portrayed on the last episode.

04:59:51.640 So I have to do something one way or the other.

04:59:54.600 It's literally just a formality.

04:59:56.220 So this show might very well clear the air by however it goes.

05:00:00.960 Okay, so that might be fine.

05:00:02.900 If that's fine, I have no reason to pursue anything.

05:00:06.280 I just won't be done with it.

05:00:07.420 I think I understand.

05:00:08.520 You're saying if you can show the court that you're suing because you weren't portrayed correctly,

05:00:15.720 that the court will then be more lenient towards you or in some way see your case better.

05:00:22.980 But literally, if that is true, then what you're saying is,

05:00:29.340 Brian, I will sue you out of the convenience of self-interest so that I look better in my personal life for this thing that's going on in my personal life.

05:00:37.060 How is that?

05:00:37.780 How does that follow?

05:00:38.500 No, it's because literally this is the way it works.

05:00:43.260 If I...

05:00:44.700 Nashun Abu donated $100.

05:00:46.780 If all of your children came to the conclusion that God wanted them to live like Andrew or Brian wouldn't,

05:00:53.140 that mean God sides with them over you.

05:00:55.520 Would you be worthy of unaliving at that point?

05:00:58.080 I'm going to pause the TTS temporarily so she can respond.

05:01:00.920 Go ahead.

05:01:02.420 Thank you, Nabu.

05:01:02.780 So what am I responding to?

05:01:03.820 So the thing is, is you just laid out that essentially you would sue Brian for the purposes of being able to prove to the court that you were portrayed incorrectly,

05:01:13.340 so this would be completely self-interest in your personal life.

05:01:18.020 So you might not think Brian actually deserves it, but that you were portrayed...

05:01:21.020 No, it would actually be in the interest of my children, not myself.

05:01:24.120 Yeah, but what about the harm that that would do to Brian who in no way would deserve that?

05:01:30.660 I cannot be worried about a grown-ass man and the consequences he might have out in the business world.

05:01:36.720 I'm only responsible for taking care of myself and my children.

05:01:40.180 If I need to make a move that might fall unfavorably on Brian in order to protect me and my children, yes, I'm going to do it.

05:01:48.960 And I feel justified doing that.

05:01:50.360 Even if it wasn't justified?

05:01:51.520 Again, I am only responsible for my children, number one, and then obviously myself has to be here to be able to take care of the children. 0.98

05:02:03.480 So you'll fuck a person over specifically for the betterment of your children? 0.96

05:02:09.760 Now, if the show didn't go the way that it did, I would never be in this position in the first place. 0.99

05:02:15.280 But I was portrayed in a certain light.

05:02:19.140 How were you portrayed?

05:02:20.040 Because the show is live.

05:02:22.380 Nothing is cut.

05:02:23.560 Nothing is edited.

05:02:25.300 It's all there to see.

05:02:26.960 And that's the thing is the idea of portrayal in a certain light.

05:02:31.280 What if you actually were portrayed in a way that you acted?

05:02:35.560 So you were portrayed fairly.

05:02:37.260 But even knowing you were portrayed fairly, you thought that this would have negative ramifications on your kids if you didn't sue, would you still sue?

05:02:50.000 Say it again.

05:02:50.680 Even if you thought you were portrayed fairly, if the court thought that that looked bad, would you still sue because that would do well by your kids?

05:03:01.760 Even if you thought you were portrayed fairly.

05:03:04.320 So it looked bad, but you thought you were portrayed fairly.

05:03:08.100 No, no, no. 0.99

05:03:08.660 If I really believed that that was an accurate portrayal of who I am as a person, even if the court was like, what the fuck is this? 0.97

05:03:16.900 I would not hold Brian accountable for that. 0.91

05:03:19.380 The only reason I would stand up against it to hold anybody accountable or at least to make a stand that I am at least attempting to hold him accountable.

05:03:28.220 Even if it falls flat, okay?

05:03:29.800 Even if it does.

05:03:30.780 But at least I'm showing I don't agree with how they portrayed me.

05:03:34.620 That's all I'm saying.

05:03:35.400 How did we portray you?

05:03:38.440 Now, do you actually want to understand?

05:03:41.240 Because I feel I have explained things so many times and it's just like you don't want to get it.

05:03:46.820 Let me, okay, let me ask you a couple questions.

05:03:49.620 Of all the things that you said tonight and on your previous appearance on the dating talk show,

05:03:55.280 did I instruct you to say anything?

05:04:00.040 Did I force you to say anything?

05:04:08.220 What's there to think?

05:04:09.080 It was, first of all, I am autistic legitimately.

05:04:21.100 So am I.

05:04:22.380 Okay, so you know how it goes.

05:04:24.900 I saw you get very upset when we thought that there was a nip slip.

05:04:29.480 And I could see in you, I'm just trying to have a point of connection.

05:04:34.960 I can understand why there would be this kind of really reaction in you.

05:04:38.620 Because our autistic minds are on a mission.

05:04:41.320 We got to get this done, right?

05:04:43.380 My autistic self, and I'm not blaming you for this, but my autistic self was on a mission.

05:04:51.300 I thought this was a particular situation I was getting into.

05:04:55.300 I come here and it's not at all that situation I thought.

05:04:58.240 So I'm already trying to like switch gears.

05:05:00.300 Okay, this is not going to be what I thought.

05:05:02.420 And then when that happened, just because I do have these certain sensitivities.

05:05:09.220 Okay, so I'm already off kilter.

05:05:10.520 Then that happened.

05:05:12.360 And from there, I was literally just mama bear, like trauma responding. 0.99

05:05:16.380 Like basically, what the fuck is going on? 0.99

05:05:19.540 These guys are, this is not what we thought it was, girls. 0.99

05:05:22.440 Like this is a fight.

05:05:23.880 They brought us to a fight.

05:05:25.440 I'm simply saying that was what was invoked in me.

05:05:30.460 And so that wasn't my best self.

05:05:33.320 That wasn't who I would want to portray myself.

05:05:36.500 But I felt because-

05:05:38.920 So it's our fault you acted that way?

05:05:42.980 I believe you took a misstep in not properly vetting people who would have like PTSD symptoms,

05:05:53.300 autism, different neural divergences that would make a difference with how they're communicating.

05:05:58.160 So just be clear.

05:06:00.280 It's our fault you acted that way.

05:06:03.240 It is your fault for getting this deeply into personal topics with women and not vetting them psychologically. 0.96

05:06:18.120 You realize that we have, in a given week, we have two shows.

05:06:22.760 We have typically, I mean, the panels tend to be between eight to ten people.

05:06:27.320 You want me to do a psychological, which I'm not capable.

05:06:32.160 It could just literally be a couple questions.

05:06:34.560 It could be like, do you have a history of PTSD, for example?

05:06:39.040 Do you have any mental disorders that are under care?

05:06:43.300 Brian wouldn't even be qualified to judge the measurement, even if they answered yes.

05:06:48.520 But I'm just saying, at least then you would have attempted to-

05:06:53.320 You do realize, hold on, hold on.

05:06:56.160 Like Andrew said, I wouldn't be qualified to even make that assessment to begin with.

05:07:01.140 And then secondly, if I barred all people who had any even perceived mental illness,

05:07:07.800 then I would just simply, you'd probably attack me for not being inclusive and allowing people of different,

05:07:14.600 who are not neurotypical, it would not be inclusive to bring, to only bring on neurotypical people.

05:07:23.640 I just thought it was very interesting how, at the beginning of this show, you made a big deal about, like,

05:07:29.180 does anybody have the nigger card, the black card? 1.00

05:07:31.880 Can you say that? 1.00

05:07:32.380 Holy fuck, bro. 1.00

05:07:33.020 Are you fucking- 1.00

05:07:35.100 First off, we never said that. 0.99

05:07:37.980 Nick does a pre-show thing and he says, don't say these words.

05:07:41.280 And that's a white woman, by the way, who just dropped the hard R. 1.00

05:07:47.380 So, okay, hold on.

05:07:48.680 Let me redirect the conversation here.

05:07:53.020 First off, disavow her saying that.

05:07:56.040 To bring it back to you wanting me to do a psychological assessment of people.

05:08:01.300 By the way, Nick does not say that.

05:08:03.960 He says, don't use these words.

05:08:06.400 And he says the end word.

05:08:07.620 I wasn't talking about what Nick said.

05:08:08.880 He says, that's part of the pre-show.

05:08:10.320 But I wasn't talking about that.

05:08:12.540 I was talking about-

05:08:13.380 That's the only time that comes up.

05:08:14.540 No, because we did have a black girl here. 1.00

05:08:17.160 Remember?

05:08:17.980 Yeah, but Nick says, don't say the n-word.

05:08:20.700 Don't say this.

05:08:21.780 Don't say that.

05:08:22.680 We don't want people saying that sort of stuff on stream.

05:08:25.540 Anyways, hold on.

05:08:26.340 I got to move it off.

05:08:27.180 I got to move it off of that.

05:08:28.700 So, we have 20 people, 20 new people, every single week moving through the studio.

05:08:34.480 And then we get flakes every single show.

05:08:36.560 So, we get up anywhere from, we'll get for a given day, five to ten flakes.

05:08:42.260 There's no practical way that I could do a psychological assessment on all these.

05:08:46.680 I could literally give you like a five questions that you could ask that would vet them better, at least.

05:08:52.280 At least something.

05:08:53.000 Because you guys are getting into digging into their psyche, their ideology.

05:08:57.140 Most of the women who come on are totally fine. 1.00

05:09:00.820 Most of the women who come on are not. 0.93

05:09:03.260 So, it's just, I don't even understand your position.

05:09:06.420 I don't even understand your argument.

05:09:09.100 So, you're saying we should have done that with you to have precluded you from coming on.

05:09:13.140 Is that what you're saying?

05:09:14.080 Yes.

05:09:14.380 Or at least you would have known to properly say, for example.

05:09:17.420 Why is it my duty?

05:09:18.320 How about it should be your duty to say, I'm not prepared to have a conversation on a podcast.

05:09:27.480 That's your duty, not mine. 0.73

05:09:28.860 Well, the thing is, Brian, we didn't just have a conversation.

05:09:32.500 You literally did an act, a hostile work environment cussing act, that literally, if you had an HR, you would not get away with that.

05:09:42.280 I am.

05:09:42.640 Do you know, I think it's King Louis.

05:09:45.960 Hold on, hold on.

05:09:47.540 There's a French monarch, and he said something along the lines of, l'état c'est moi.

05:09:53.100 The state is me.

05:09:54.340 I am the state.

05:09:56.200 There is no HR department, lady. 0.99

05:09:59.180 I know.

05:09:59.900 I'm just saying that that was not appropriate behavior.

05:10:05.520 Your entire conduct before the show, which we went into on the show, was inappropriate behavior.

05:10:10.980 You want to talk about professionalism, inappropriate behavior.

05:10:14.220 I'm happy to have a conversation about it.

05:10:16.300 On June 16th, did you send to me, without my consent or permission, did you send a nude photograph of yourself to me, to whatever Instagram page?

05:10:26.420 Yes or no?

05:10:26.900 Did I?

05:10:27.520 I don't know.

05:10:29.080 You don't?

05:10:29.460 I'm a hoe.

05:10:30.120 I don't know who I send nudes to on what day.

05:10:32.940 Did you send a, what's the term for it?

05:10:34.780 A, an un, did you send, on June 16th, did you send a nude photograph to the whatever Instagram page that, like, what's it called?

05:10:46.840 There's a word for it.

05:10:47.720 DM.

05:10:48.640 No, not a DM.

05:10:49.420 It's like, uh, unrequested?

05:10:52.680 Unsolicited.

05:10:53.340 Unsolicited.

05:10:53.840 You said, yes, thank you.

05:10:55.420 On June 16th, did you send an unsolicited nude photograph to the whatever Instagram page?

05:11:01.100 I don't know.

05:11:01.680 Did I?

05:11:02.160 You did.

05:11:02.880 Okay.

05:11:03.320 So why are you asking me if you already know I did?

05:11:05.380 You, you, well, because he's wondering if, if you had taken the time to have him answer a series of psyche-evalued questions so that you would know if his emotional state could take you sending him a nude picture or not.

05:11:19.760 Did you take the time to have him fill out a psych form before you sent him that nude picture?

05:11:25.820 I asked him, I asked him many personal questions about himself.

05:11:28.920 Yeah, but did you take the time to ask him if he would have PTSD from having an unsolicited, imagine the trauma that could be caused.

05:11:35.360 Well, why don't we read all the messages leading up to that?

05:11:38.560 I probably did ask.

05:11:39.660 Yeah, perhaps some horrible things had happened in the past to Brian, which have caused PTSD.

05:11:45.420 Can you read what I was saying up until the nude?

05:11:48.740 I mean, you send literally a novel to me.

05:11:52.340 Yeah.

05:11:53.100 But no, I never, you didn't ask for permission to send it.

05:11:57.140 There was no flirting at all.

05:11:59.500 Brian, would you say that this has caused you some PTSD?

05:12:01.780 Do you want the joke answer?

05:12:06.620 The true answer.

05:12:08.340 Well.

05:12:09.340 Having random women send you unsolicited nudes doesn't seem, doesn't seem like.

05:12:15.360 No, I'm not.

05:12:16.340 It doesn't.

05:12:17.260 I wouldn't say.

05:12:18.700 I mean, I don't want to from people who I have on the show.

05:12:22.960 I will say this.

05:12:24.260 You did get me there because I'm big on consent.

05:12:27.000 So, you know what I'm going to say?

05:12:28.580 I kept it.

05:12:29.220 We're even then, I guess.

05:12:30.860 No, I can't.

05:12:31.800 Wait, hold on.

05:12:32.760 You're big on consent.

05:12:34.080 You're big on consent.

05:12:35.040 But you walked over here.

05:12:36.660 No, I know.

05:12:37.020 I'm saying I got Andrew back. 1.00

05:12:38.540 And put your fucking ass in his face. 1.00

05:12:39.740 I got you back for any problems I had with you. 1.00

05:12:42.080 And I got you back.

05:12:43.240 Did he consent?

05:12:43.500 No, he didn't.

05:12:44.440 So, I'm saying.

05:12:45.100 Did I consent?

05:12:45.860 No, you didn't.

05:12:46.720 Okay, so you do admit.

05:12:47.700 That's what I'm saying.

05:12:48.380 We're now even.

05:12:49.260 I feel that you just made restitution with me.

05:12:53.120 It's actually battering people.

05:12:54.480 It's like hurting their feelings.

05:12:56.000 So, you do admit to have.

05:12:57.700 It's just like that.

05:12:58.540 You do admit to having had sent a unsolicited nude to the whatever Instagram page that I saw?

05:13:05.540 You said that I did.

05:13:06.460 I can't.

05:13:06.880 I don't have it up to see what around the context.

05:13:09.340 But if you're saying that.

05:13:10.220 I cannot show it.

05:13:11.460 You can't?

05:13:12.100 Can we put it on your OnlyFans?

05:13:13.620 I don't know why you find this to be a laughing matter.

05:13:16.760 I mean, the fans would want to see.

05:13:18.500 Can I have it back to put on my OnlyFans?

05:13:20.420 But see, you want to, like, play this game of, like, well, Brian, here's how you don't always conduct yourself perfectly.

05:13:29.640 Who are you to talk?

05:13:32.140 I said.

05:13:32.620 True.

05:13:33.060 You got me.

05:13:33.620 I already said.

05:13:34.460 I submitted.

05:13:35.080 You're right, you guys.

05:13:35.940 I have been rude.

05:13:36.880 I have been conceited.

05:13:38.680 I have been not listening to you.

05:13:40.440 You wanted it, Brian.

05:13:41.500 You deserved it, right? 0.98

05:13:43.240 I apparently sent you an unsolicited nude, which is, like, a sexual assault. 0.71

05:13:49.280 I mean, it is.

05:13:50.320 Well. 1.00

05:13:50.960 And then I put my ass in your face. 1.00

05:13:52.700 Again, a sexual assault. 1.00

05:13:53.840 So, I'm guilty.

05:13:54.940 You're right.

05:13:55.660 And I like you guys, and I agreed to come because, as hard as it is for me, because, again, I don't get challenged that much. 0.75

05:14:03.540 And we can call that my female privilege, my pretty female privilege, or whatever the fuck you want to call it. 1.00

05:14:08.600 But I don't often feel stimulated by the males that are out here right now. 0.94

05:14:19.100 And you guys at least stimulated some part of me that wanted to engage again.

05:14:23.460 That were boring.

05:14:24.960 Well, it got better.

05:14:26.980 Maybe it's because I just.

05:14:28.100 Because it's all about you?

05:14:29.620 Your favorite topic?

05:14:32.180 Well.

05:14:32.780 It was all about your favorite topic?

05:14:34.180 No, because you did actually get me on a point that I couldn't deny.

05:14:39.700 You're right.

05:14:40.140 That was not appropriate.

05:14:41.580 And I love it.

05:14:42.720 I actually enjoy when that does happen.

05:14:45.440 And I concede.

05:14:46.420 You're right.

05:14:48.700 Okay.

05:14:50.580 See, I like the checks and balances that men and women bring each other. 1.00

05:14:54.340 I think it's fun.

05:14:55.840 I only ever wanted to, like, okay, let's talk about, like, heated stuff and passionate stuff.

05:15:02.240 But, like, as friends.

05:15:04.180 Like, just as friends.

05:15:05.440 You're, lady.

05:15:06.240 Who you sue.

05:15:07.140 You're threatening litigation.

05:15:10.300 Well, that.

05:15:11.380 You think.

05:15:11.940 Like, friends.

05:15:12.580 You remember, like, a couple weeks ago, me and Brian were eating a cheeseburger.

05:15:16.320 You guys.

05:15:16.840 And I was like, could you pass me the ketchup?

05:15:18.920 And he was like, no, bro, grab the ketchup yourself. 0.96

05:15:21.040 And so I've been fucking launching lawsuits ever since that were frivolous and vexatious. 0.97

05:15:25.520 But that's what. 0.98

05:15:26.300 Because that's what friends do.

05:15:27.560 That's how men bond.

05:15:29.380 Listen, Karen, okay, I don't have the same access to him.

05:15:34.980 This is all I had to engage and to say, basically, I feel very violated by this. 0.96

05:15:40.240 I just want, I need some sort of peace about what the fuck was that? 0.97

05:15:44.560 Just some sort of aftercare, you could say. 0.99

05:15:47.240 Aftercare.

05:15:48.060 When there's a rupture in, psychologists call it a rupture.

05:15:51.980 A rupture in our relationship dynamic.

05:15:55.520 Even as colleagues.

05:15:56.620 That's whatever you want to say.

05:15:57.420 Did you get his attention?

05:15:58.500 No, I did it in order to make a statement for my own kind of moving forward, moving past it.

05:16:08.020 I needed to make a stance of, like, I did not like that at all.

05:16:12.600 And he needed to know about it.

05:16:14.380 Yes.

05:16:14.860 And he needed to engage with it.

05:16:16.520 He didn't have to.

05:16:17.400 He didn't really.

05:16:17.960 But you kept on going until he did, to the point where you even sent a nude to him, right?

05:16:23.020 No, I think that the nude was way back then.

05:16:25.160 Doesn't it sound like nudes?

05:16:26.620 The nude was so long ago.

05:16:27.460 Yeah, but isn't that attention-seeking behavior?

05:16:31.300 I send nudes when I'm feeling like...

05:16:34.720 Do you need some attention?

05:16:35.960 No, it's not an attention thing.

05:16:37.580 It's a way for me to try to show a man, I'm not out to get you.

05:16:42.340 I'm trying to engage with you.

05:16:44.720 You want me and...

05:16:46.460 Hold on, I'm just interrupting you.

05:16:47.840 You want me and Andrew to not exist, and you're also threatening me with frivolous lawsuits.

05:16:55.520 I will take back the wishing you to not exist.

05:16:57.820 You say that now, but just like the previous show, when we, I think, challenged you, oh, 1.00

05:17:03.560 you're just going to go out and talk a bunch of shit. 0.97

05:17:05.840 You posted, like, hundreds of stories about the Whatever podcast. 1.00

05:17:09.240 You've been sending novels to the Whatever Instagram page.

05:17:12.620 You're threatening frivolous and vexatious legal action.

05:17:15.520 And, I mean, it's just insanity.

05:17:20.060 And you say, I mean, frankly, my ideal would be that this is the end of our association.

05:17:31.080 And you go on with your life, and I go on with mine, and you're in the rearview mirror,

05:17:37.040 and likewise for you.

05:17:38.960 But I know you, you're going to be hemming and hawing about this for months to come.

05:17:43.940 You're going to be probably trying to, who knows what you're going to do, but.

05:17:48.520 Is that what you want?

05:17:51.200 What do you mean?

05:17:52.360 I want you to just move on with your life and stop threatening legal action.

05:17:57.560 Okay.

05:17:57.980 And just.

05:17:58.780 And remember.

05:18:00.140 Well, and also not take legal action.

05:18:04.520 The wise woman, according to you, the wise woman once said, and this is your opening line 1.00

05:18:10.120 of your book, fuck this shit. 1.00

05:18:12.280 And she lived happily ever after. 1.00

05:18:15.020 Hang on, this is the opening of your book. 1.00

05:18:16.620 A wise woman once said, fuck this shit. 1.00

05:18:19.560 Yeah, I wrote it. 1.00

05:18:20.040 And she lived happily ever after. 1.00

05:18:21.940 So how about you fuck off and go live happily ever after? 1.00

05:18:25.520 All right. 1.00

05:18:25.980 I will.

05:18:26.340 In any case, it would be nice to attempt to end things on a good note, but I don't think

05:18:38.200 in good faith you would actually be able to agree that this is the end of our association,

05:18:43.320 although it's certainly my desire.

05:18:44.040 I can agree I would sign a contract.

05:18:45.880 Write it up.

05:18:46.380 I'll sign it.

05:18:47.560 Why don't you just look into this camera right here?

05:18:49.720 This is a legally binding statement, although you did sign the talent, the waiver.

05:18:56.680 I signed the waiver.

05:18:57.500 I read it.

05:18:58.180 I felt comfortable with it.

05:18:59.760 Right.

05:19:00.140 And I brought my no button and I had my little fits.

05:19:03.960 Okay.

05:19:04.080 And I feel that looking into the camera, you, you agree to hold Brian Atlas and whatever

05:19:13.500 harmless of any claims now or in the future that may arise from your appearance on the

05:19:19.780 podcast.

05:19:21.140 You disclaim any sort of, or you, um, I'm not a lawyer here.

05:19:26.180 I understand what you're saying.

05:19:27.720 You relinquish any and all claims.

05:19:30.400 Non-disclosure agreement, basically.

05:19:31.600 Yes, I agree.

05:19:32.120 Non-disclosure, but in any case, um, so you have my hope, my hope for you to, for you

05:19:39.900 would be, I mean, for the sake of yourself and I mean, trying to continue, continue to

05:19:45.480 pursue the whatever podcast, I don't think we'll be productive for you.

05:19:49.560 I already said I wouldn't.

05:19:51.540 I gave you my word.

05:19:52.440 Well, you say that now, but well, didn't you write me up something to sign?

05:19:55.620 I'll sign it.

05:19:56.000 I didn't.

05:19:57.080 Write it up.

05:19:57.740 I'll sign it.

05:19:58.180 Just look in the camera and say, I'm not going to sue whatever.

05:20:00.600 I am not going to sue whatever.

05:20:02.380 I don't know if that's.

05:20:03.240 And I'm not going to bother Brian Atlas anymore.

05:20:04.980 And I'm not going to bother Brian Atlas anymore.

05:20:07.420 He doesn't want to be friends.

05:20:08.600 And I totally am responsible for sexual battery of Andrew Wilson.

05:20:11.640 And that's why I'm going to get sued.

05:20:12.360 And I am totally responsible for sexually assaulting the youth of America, apparently.

05:20:19.020 Uh. 0.85

05:20:20.280 I guess.

05:20:20.920 Well, that's a different crime.

05:20:23.100 Well, they're at least 18, right?

05:20:24.520 They're at least 18.

05:20:25.020 All right.

05:20:25.760 Guilty.

05:20:26.940 Final question.

05:20:27.600 Do you think me and Andrew are misogynists?

05:20:29.920 What's a misogynist?

05:20:30.880 Tell me what the, your definition.

05:20:32.960 Values, um, values men, men's priorities primarily over women's. 0.59

05:20:38.300 Most charitable.

05:20:39.540 Do you?

05:20:40.400 Definition I can give.

05:20:41.420 Do you?

05:20:42.060 No.

05:20:42.760 Well, then I don't believe you're a misogynist.

05:20:44.520 Yeah.

05:20:44.980 Do you, Brian?

05:20:46.200 Do I what?

05:20:47.400 Value men's priorities over women's. 1.00

05:20:50.020 I don't even think that's the definition.

05:20:52.040 I know.

05:20:52.340 I'm giving the most charitable one I can.

05:20:53.980 Well, you can give it to me raw.

05:20:55.580 I mean, is there a better definition?

05:20:57.060 I'll pass on that one.

05:20:58.020 Usually it's tailored towards hatred towards women. 0.99

05:21:01.540 So I wouldn't say that I value.

05:21:02.960 Yeah.

05:21:03.360 I wouldn't say that I value the priorities of men over women. 0.94

05:21:05.920 I just think that men generally have priorities, which I support more than women's. 0.99

05:21:10.640 That's a confusing way to state it.

05:21:13.160 But you're saying, no, you're not a misogynist.

05:21:15.920 Yeah.

05:21:16.600 Okay.

05:21:16.920 Well, then you're you. 0.52

05:21:18.920 Only you know if you're a misogynist.

05:21:20.460 Yeah. 0.91

05:21:20.960 I'm a misandrist.

05:21:22.420 What's that? 0.93

05:21:23.180 So I probably hate men as much as you do. 0.98

05:21:25.620 Honestly, I really hate most people, to be honest. 0.92

05:21:28.140 It's nothing personal to men. 0.99

05:21:29.660 I hate a bunch of women, too. 1.00

05:21:30.960 So don't take it personally. 0.97

05:21:33.720 Do you want to walk back your statements about me and Andrew?

05:21:38.280 Because of who we are, we should not be alive.

05:21:41.660 She already did.

05:21:42.400 Yeah.

05:21:42.560 I apologize for that.

05:21:43.520 I said I take it back.

05:21:46.120 I hope that you, this is going to be so much, so fucking expensive, this kind of psychological 0.80

05:21:51.740 trauma that I've had to endure tonight. 0.97

05:21:54.640 The PTSD I'm going to get.

05:21:55.780 I gave you a book.

05:21:56.200 It'll help you heal.

05:21:56.760 From this battery.

05:21:57.760 It'll help you heal.

05:21:58.440 I don't know how I'm going to move past it.

05:22:00.240 I wrote the book just to help people survive the trauma of being in my presence.

05:22:04.220 This is bringing back childhood memories of when women often, without my consent, would 1.00

05:22:10.220 just, yeah.

05:22:12.640 Andrew.

05:22:13.440 It was terrible.

05:22:14.500 Oh my God.

05:22:15.900 You know.

05:22:16.060 TTSD.

05:22:17.020 I could help you work through that later if you want.

05:22:19.180 We're going to, we're going to, the TTS is 69.

05:22:22.100 I would rather drink turpentine and piss on a brush fire.

05:22:24.240 What's turpentine?

05:22:25.020 Is that like lighter fluid?

05:22:25.520 The TTS is 69.

05:22:26.400 This is going to be the roast segment if you guys want.

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05:23:03.080 It's a course that you should buy and you should take and learn because.

05:23:07.260 Okay.

05:23:07.480 Anyway, yeah, it's.

05:23:10.700 So, you are a coach.

05:23:11.680 You're like a life coach for verbal combat.

05:23:13.620 I'm not.

05:23:14.120 Is it like mortal combat?

05:23:14.980 I don't do life coaching at all of any kind ever.

05:23:17.160 I don't even give out advice, by the way.

05:23:18.740 People want to pay me thousands of dollars to give them advice and I won't do it.

05:23:22.620 I just don't do it.

05:23:23.320 That's smart.

05:23:23.820 It's a big liability.

05:23:25.040 Well, no, it's not because of liability. 0.98

05:23:26.740 It's because of this fucking pesky-ass actual ethical code that I have. 0.99

05:23:31.940 Oh, okay. 0.99

05:23:32.880 That's why.

05:23:33.800 But anyway, yeah, go to verbal combat.

05:23:35.860 Get verbal combat.

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05:23:40.020 It's extremely high quality and we hope you guys pick up the course.

05:23:45.600 And so it is debateuniversity.com.

05:23:48.300 The link for that is in the description.

05:23:50.460 We also do have a members only group, monthly Q&A sessions with Andrew and I'll also be hosting

05:23:56.380 those and should we just for, we don't have time to play the trailer, but maybe later, but we need to let the TTSs come through.

05:24:06.340 So I'm going to let them come through.

05:24:07.680 Sorry that we had to pause them temporarily.

05:24:08.840 Yo, PSA, thank you for the TTS, appreciate it.

05:24:21.740 Thank you.

05:24:22.180 Thank you.

05:24:22.520 He's shocked.

05:24:23.840 Oh, thank you.

05:24:25.080 Thank you.

05:24:26.140 69.

05:24:27.140 Good number.

05:24:31.840 Jeff underscore Bader donated $100.

05:24:37.260 Women are the weaker vessel boys. 1.00

05:24:39.540 Just a reminder. 0.97

05:24:41.200 Okay.

05:24:41.860 Jeff Bader.

05:24:43.220 True.

05:24:43.920 That is true.

05:24:47.480 I'm not sure what that, okay.

05:24:50.960 To each their own, I guess.

05:24:54.940 Thank you.

05:24:56.280 There's a weird delay on these.

05:24:57.960 I don't know why that is.

05:24:58.820 Hold on.

05:25:00.160 Jeff Bader.

05:25:00.660 Oh, it's okay.

05:25:01.340 I see why it's at that threshold.

05:25:02.900 Thank you, Jeff Bader, though.

05:25:03.760 Really appreciate it.

05:25:04.860 By the way, guys, like the video.

05:25:06.160 If you enjoyed this, this is not one of our usual streams, but I hope you enjoyed it nevertheless.

05:25:10.100 Viewership was really good on it.

05:25:12.540 I think, like, 7, 7.5K.

05:25:17.700 So, yeah.

05:25:18.920 Intel Wild donated $69.

05:25:21.520 Oh, look at that.

05:25:22.360 Desiree, I'm going to buy you a ticket to fly you out to Miami so you can see my boy fresh and he can blast inside of you. 0.57

05:25:30.180 Flown out. 0.52

05:25:31.340 Blown out.

05:25:32.440 Thrown out.

05:25:34.260 I don't know what that means.

05:25:35.600 Okay.

05:25:37.520 Is this a young person?

05:25:39.020 What is this?

05:25:40.800 Honestly, I think...

05:25:42.740 Don't do it fresh.

05:25:45.760 Yeah, I don't.

05:25:46.500 He wouldn't do it in a million years.

05:25:47.720 Right?

05:25:47.740 Okay, the unsolicited nudes, every once in a while, you catch the person in the right mood, and it's just, like, a fun time.

05:25:55.800 You do admit to sending it, though, right?

05:25:57.400 I didn't send them to the married guy, for God's sake. 0.94

05:25:59.800 Well, you sent it to...

05:26:01.000 No, you tried to do that in person.

05:26:02.560 I have underwear on.

05:26:04.360 Like, that's better.

05:26:05.380 I have underwear on.

05:26:06.560 There was nothing nude coming out.

05:26:08.120 I have a sense censor to smack upside my head, and I need to go to confession after all of this.

05:26:13.960 Praying for your safety, guys and Maddie.

05:26:16.800 Desiree, you need help and prayers, and an exorcism.

05:26:20.420 Okay.

05:26:25.120 Are you buying?

05:26:25.980 Man's underscore job underscore, but underscore like underscore friends donated $69.

05:26:35.260 Does protecting women mean allowing them to do slash say whatever they want, even if it's detrimental to them?

05:26:41.680 Or should it also include trying to show them they could be wrong in what they're doing slash saying?

05:26:46.440 Correct, just like when Brian, I was really proud of him, because he finally did bring something to me that I knew he was right on.

05:26:57.040 He had me.

05:26:57.540 He put me in my place, so hence why I submitted.

05:27:03.040 Okay.

05:27:04.280 $69 donated, $69.69.

05:27:07.960 Thank you.

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05:27:08.820 Hi, guys.

05:27:10.000 How is it going except this $304? 0.94

05:27:12.880 I hope your life gets ruined anyway.

05:27:15.040 Oh, God. 0.61

05:27:15.640 Especially to Andrew.

05:27:16.960 How are you, man?

05:27:18.300 Good.

05:27:18.600 How are you?

05:27:18.820 I hope this $304 didn't not ruin your mood.

05:27:22.760 I like your podcasts.

05:27:24.560 Keep it $69.69.

05:27:27.580 Thank you.

05:27:28.580 What's the $304?

05:27:29.200 Christine donated $69.

05:27:32.100 Which lethal injection do you want to use to unalive your children?

05:27:36.800 Pancuronium bromide?

05:27:38.720 Potassium chloride?

05:27:40.500 Sodium thiopentol?

05:27:42.260 First one takes two to three hours.

05:27:44.360 Would you do inject them yourself?

05:27:47.100 Clip this?

05:27:49.760 No.

05:27:50.320 I would send them through the legal system and let it happen how it happens.

05:27:55.100 You know, I would at least take the lame dog out to the farm myself.

05:28:00.580 You know?

05:28:00.920 I would at least take the dog out to the farm.

05:28:03.880 I'd say, you know, hey, who's a good boy?

05:28:06.080 Give it the last snack. 0.98

05:28:07.380 You know, I'd at least do that.

05:28:08.660 I just am not quite crazy enough to actually be willing to...

05:28:14.880 Erroneous!

05:28:17.220 Erroneous! 0.94

05:28:18.460 To carry out the execution myself. 0.87

05:28:21.460 I would simply...

05:28:23.320 I would not enable them to get away with crimes.

05:28:28.840 Gotta have a man do that. 0.94

05:28:29.740 I would not...

05:28:30.420 Grunt part.

05:28:30.900 I don't know.

05:28:31.700 There's women probably that do the lethal injections in the courts. 1.00

05:28:34.440 But anyway, point being, I'm simply saying I wouldn't ever hide evidence or anything like

05:28:40.760 that that would keep my children from being held accountable for the crimes that they may

05:28:46.640 may not commit.

05:28:47.500 I would want them to get prosecuted to the full extent of the law if they were guilty

05:28:51.080 for those things.

05:28:52.080 Yes.

05:28:52.180 The crimes of...

05:28:53.500 Hurting your feelings?

05:28:54.720 No.

05:28:55.460 No.

05:28:56.060 The crimes against humanity that would warrant being sentenced to death.

05:29:01.700 Have me and Andrew done crimes against humanity?

05:29:03.440 We cleared it up, I think.

05:29:04.660 I think that we...

05:29:05.960 Did we?

05:29:06.940 I don't know if I heard...

05:29:07.760 I'm pretty sure that you've committed crimes against humanity.

05:29:10.400 Trump 2024 donated $69.

05:29:13.460 How do I donate to her ex's custody battle? 0.56

05:29:17.480 Oh, bro.

05:29:22.380 You really don't want to be on that guy's side.

05:29:25.280 It's not going well.

05:29:26.540 You don't want to be his accomplice.

05:29:27.860 Or fund anything he's doing.

05:29:29.920 Trust me.

05:29:35.220 Military mathematical man donated $69.

05:29:39.040 I think her five commandments would stimulate Beavo to cuck for her.

05:29:43.100 Also, imagine if this woman and that 33-year-old from Tuesday were on the same show. 0.65

05:29:52.420 All right.

05:29:52.620 The TTSers are...

05:29:53.620 Oh.

05:29:54.140 Whoop.

05:29:55.820 Military mathematical man.

05:29:58.240 Thank you.

05:30:00.400 Optimus Prime Girl donated $69.

05:30:03.720 Thank you, Optimus Prime Girl.

05:30:04.260 This episode is eye-opening indeed.

05:30:06.880 I made a robot for my master's thesis.

05:30:09.760 Guess I'm a transformer now.

05:30:11.700 Brian, awesome social experiment.

05:30:14.500 Thank you.

05:30:15.020 Andrew, you're the best.

05:30:16.600 Hey, thanks, man.

05:30:17.340 I wonder what kind of robot you made.

05:30:20.740 Robotics engineer over here.

05:30:22.620 Thank you, Optimus Prime.

05:30:25.440 Ulysses, the pagan donated $69. 0.97

05:30:29.160 Desiree, I do believe, as you self-described, that you having mental issues. 0.91

05:30:33.340 But I think part of this intentional and calculated trolling and clout hoeing. 1.00

05:30:38.120 Oh, boy.

05:30:42.000 Am I supposed to say something?

05:30:44.760 I honestly, I'm a little old.

05:30:49.020 I don't know what these words mean.

05:30:50.640 Isaiah Fluke donated $100.

05:30:53.800 Donated $100.

05:30:55.120 Desiree has not learned anything from this and will turn as soon as she leaves.

05:31:00.020 Sorry, we couldn't read the rest of that fluke.

05:31:05.400 What do you think?

05:31:07.280 It's easy, I mean, to just say in person, oh, yeah, I'll just move on.

05:31:13.400 Then 24 hours later, just back at it.

05:31:18.080 Back at it.

05:31:19.020 Even the commitments.

05:31:20.000 Even with words leaving one's mouth.

05:31:21.640 Jive Anik donated $69.

05:31:28.280 Yeah, thank you.

05:31:28.800 This legitimately just made me sad.

05:31:31.380 I hope this woman finds Christ.

05:31:34.160 She needs him desperately.

05:31:35.720 She left him on purpose.

05:31:37.560 We do have some Bibles if you want one.

05:31:42.560 Do you want me to have one?

05:31:44.560 We could give you one.

05:31:45.640 Yeah, that's on me.

05:31:47.340 I'll replace it.

05:31:48.080 Juxtapose 03 donated $69.

05:31:54.300 Shout out to the Andrew and the Crucible.

05:31:57.040 Desiree, I thought that you looked familiar.

05:31:59.880 Open up the dictionary.

05:32:01.140 You will find your picture right next to the words cognitive dissonance.

05:32:05.740 Godspeed, Andrew.

05:32:06.900 Hey, thanks, M. Juxtapose.

05:32:09.560 Big fan of that guy, by the way.

05:32:11.180 He's pretty regular in the Discord.

05:32:13.340 Super good guy.

05:32:14.640 Thank you, Juxtapose.

05:32:15.520 Now, there's some that might have not come through.

05:32:18.340 Maddie, did this one come through?

05:32:21.840 GMD Gym donated $70.

05:32:24.000 I don't remember it.

05:32:24.640 Brixen, can you DoorDash Maddie some In-N-Out?

05:32:27.700 I think she has earned it today.

05:32:30.480 In-N-Out doesn't do DoorDash. 0.99

05:32:31.980 It doesn't.

05:32:32.840 Yeah, you can't have it delivered.

05:32:38.420 I don't really like In-N-Out.

05:32:41.160 Maddie.

05:32:41.640 Maddie.

05:32:41.700 Maddie.

05:32:45.520 B-Wall, thank you for the gift.

05:32:51.700 Optimus Prime Girl donated $69.

05:32:55.140 This episode was very eye-opening indeed.

05:32:58.080 I made a robot for my master's thesis.

05:33:01.320 Guess I'm a transformer now.

05:33:02.800 Oh, we already saw that one.

05:33:04.280 She sent it in again, I think.

05:33:06.220 Andrew, you're the best.

05:33:08.360 Well, hey, Optimus Prime Girl, thank you for the echo, I guess.

05:33:13.060 Thank you.

05:33:13.440 Appreciate it.

05:33:14.960 Really appreciate it.

05:33:17.220 Desiree the...

05:33:18.780 Here, I'll re-trigger her when she's back.

05:33:22.720 Okay, thank you.

05:33:23.740 I'll re-trigger it, okay?

05:33:25.020 Hopefully it doesn't fall off.

05:33:27.060 I am Optimus Prime.

05:33:29.160 Here, I'll do this.

05:33:29.800 J.R., do you know the story of Kurt Cobain, please?

05:33:34.540 Okay, so I can tell you really quick the synopsis of the Kurt Cobain history.

05:33:39.620 It's okay.

05:33:41.680 Mr. Bullay donated $69.

05:33:44.380 Thank you, Mr. Bullay.

05:33:45.180 Inquisition patriarchy communique.

05:33:47.460 Brian, the Grand Inquisitor informs he hasn't received the autographed blue-white cup with certificate of authenticity.

05:33:54.460 Remind me.

05:33:54.860 I am performing an inventory audit.

05:33:56.900 Get to it.

05:33:58.700 Indeed.

05:33:59.100 Thank you, Mr. Bullay.

05:34:06.420 David Terzak, she act donated $69.

05:34:09.620 Yo, good to see you, David.

05:34:10.220 Bree Andrew Bates, the FCC is on the way.

05:34:13.340 Nick and Matt help is on the way.

05:34:15.460 I pray for you all.

05:34:17.260 Prediction Sunday or Monday, Mark Kelly, Vice President pick.

05:34:21.380 Nouch.

05:34:22.100 Yeah, probably.

05:34:23.200 Another shot?

05:34:24.380 No, thanks.

05:34:25.240 Let's not.

05:34:27.420 My back is telling me, I'm sorry.

05:34:29.320 Okay, that's fine.

05:34:31.200 You should get off it sometime.

05:34:40.220 It was good.

05:34:41.540 It was good.

05:34:42.220 Give me that.

05:34:42.700 Can you pass me the no button she brought?

05:34:44.400 Can you grab it?

05:34:45.180 Maddie, can you push that over?

05:34:46.520 All right, Desiree, I don't know if you guys really caught this.

05:34:51.240 She brought this no button.

05:34:56.140 You can use it.

05:34:58.140 I actually really have been wanting a Bible, and I'm so cheap because I used to have a million

05:35:03.020 of them, so thank you.

05:35:04.020 I actually do appreciate the Bible.

05:35:05.160 This is my trick for all the single moms. 1.00

05:35:14.200 You got to get one of these.

05:35:15.340 My kids started listening to me a lot better when I got this.

05:35:18.580 No.

05:35:19.120 A thousand times?

05:35:20.600 No.

05:35:21.360 CloverTack donated $69.

05:35:24.400 Brian and Du, not sure how you gents were able to deal with Desiree this long.

05:35:30.140 You both handled it well.

05:35:31.960 They did.

05:35:32.340 A few dots.

05:35:32.840 They did.

05:35:33.480 I could not have done it.

05:35:34.880 You know, I'd like to reference a verse in the Bible, Proverbs 2119.

05:35:41.640 It is better to live in the desert than with a quarrelsome and nagging wife. 1.00

05:35:47.800 I think this applies.

05:35:49.420 She doesn't want the nudes, and he doesn't want me to nag him.

05:35:52.600 I don't know what to do with you, Brian.

05:35:54.740 Concealed man, so basically reversed her core value she was abiding by at the end after they

05:35:59.080 told her to F off.

05:36:00.180 That's all the psychopath needed to heal her trauma. 1.00

05:36:02.820 She's a... 1.00

05:36:04.880 Just tuck your legs into the...

05:36:09.060 Just put your legs on the side.

05:36:11.540 Sorry, I'm just trying to get my back comfortable.

05:36:13.900 She was abiding by at the end after they told her to F off.

05:36:16.340 That's all the psychopath needed to heal her trauma. 0.97

05:36:18.900 She's a troller. 1.00

05:36:20.020 Troll. 0.99

05:36:20.740 Okay. 0.98

05:36:21.320 All right.

05:36:21.720 Thank you.

05:36:22.220 What's a troll?

05:36:22.860 Concealed man.

05:36:23.120 Like, what do people...

05:36:25.020 I understand the online ones, but how...

05:36:27.920 So I'm a troll?

05:36:28.700 Desiree, the blank 3FO. 1.00

05:36:30.320 You put your ass in Andrew's face in person during a live, and you sent a nude to Brian 1.00

05:36:34.820 with a crazy degenerate. 1.00

05:36:39.300 Okay. 1.00

05:36:39.880 It's pretty fucking degenerate, by the way. 0.99

05:36:41.720 I guess. 1.00

05:36:42.380 Guilty.

05:36:43.320 That is where women... 1.00

05:36:44.840 I will say that we do take liberties because, for the most part, any and all flirtatious banter

05:36:54.960 is usually received pretty well with a man.

05:36:58.060 So I personally use it more of...

05:37:02.160 I'm either genuinely, like, in a...

05:37:04.680 I'm in a playful mood, and I'm just sharing that with the man that's in my aura right then,

05:37:11.900 assuming he's not married or anything like that.

05:37:14.100 I use it for that, or if I'm trying to shift the mood into a more playful space.

05:37:19.000 So if you want to call that manipulation tactics and evil, okay.

05:37:23.820 But I don't do it with malice aforethought or to do anything other than try to reach a

05:37:31.720 man to have better communication with him for the purpose of reconciling, like, coming

05:37:37.900 back together.

05:37:38.660 Like, there was something not right in our relating, and I just want to clear the air.

05:37:44.780 I really like to clear the air as I go with people.

05:37:46.960 No, I don't understand, though.

05:37:48.420 Like, maybe you can reconcile, because you're in the playful mood, right?

05:37:51.080 Maybe you can answer this for me.

05:37:52.900 Sure. 0.99

05:37:55.360 If there was ever to be reciprocation of me to a woman who wasn't my wife, what the fuck 0.99

05:38:02.800 would ever make you think it would be with you? 0.99

05:38:05.540 I wouldn't.

05:38:06.280 That's why I was being...

05:38:06.740 That's just so weird to me.

05:38:07.640 That's why I was just being...

05:38:08.840 I was...

05:38:09.500 Honestly, I felt in that moment, my intention was not to, like, turn you on or think that

05:38:16.840 you would like that.

05:38:17.100 No, but, like, don't you think I could get a way hotter chick than you? 0.96

05:38:19.640 Yes, I'm sure you can.

05:38:20.780 Yeah, it's like, totally.

05:38:21.360 You're a famous...

05:38:22.520 What's your coaching program?

05:38:25.340 The one that doesn't exist?

05:38:26.760 The verbal assault program?

05:38:29.080 Yeah, verbal assault.

05:38:29.940 You're famous.

05:38:31.020 You have how many...

05:38:31.740 You have thousands of women after you. 0.97

05:38:33.400 I'm nobody. 1.00

05:38:34.300 Like, who gives a shit? 1.00

05:38:35.380 He's a verbal assault helicopter. 1.00

05:38:35.840 I'm literally nobody.

05:38:38.180 Like, I'm not a big deal.

05:38:41.220 Okay.

05:38:44.380 Get your last one soon, guys.

05:38:46.080 We're going to wrap it up.

05:38:46.380 We're going to wrap it up.

05:38:46.400 We're going to wrap it up.

05:38:47.300 We're going to wrap it up.

05:38:47.700 We're going to wrap it up.

05:38:47.780 We're going to wrap it up.

05:38:47.860 We're going to wrap it up.

05:38:48.340 No shot for Andrew Schieleru for it.

05:38:52.120 Okay.

05:38:52.820 It's so weird to me that people...

05:38:54.540 Can I just make a statement?

05:38:56.000 The alcohol in and of itself is a mind-altering substance.

05:39:01.160 Why does everybody only call it, like, drugging something if you add something else to it?

05:39:07.140 I mean...

05:39:07.700 Because you're Irish or immune. 1.00

05:39:09.500 Are you Irish?

05:39:10.460 Lol, Caledyn's donated $69.

05:39:11.460 Oh, my God.

05:39:11.800 So, I literally...

05:39:12.740 Legit question for her.

05:39:13.940 Would have to drug you to get you.

05:39:15.200 Can she confirm or deny her giving drugs to the girl next to her on her last appearance?

05:39:22.540 Oh, no.

05:39:23.780 I did not...

05:39:24.480 I...

05:39:25.140 Okay.

05:39:25.720 Funny story about me.

05:39:27.240 There have been times in my life where I have considered,

05:39:29.700 should I try some sort of drug?

05:39:32.140 Maybe this pain is why people do the drugs.

05:39:34.940 And then I am so freaking straight-edged for my whole life. 0.99

05:39:38.760 I'm literally the bitch that's calling people, like, 0.99

05:39:42.560 where does somebody get drugs? 0.99

05:39:45.040 Like, I don't even know how this works.

05:39:46.780 Because now marijuana is legal.

05:39:48.560 That's really the only substance that I use besides, you know, alcohol here and there.

05:39:52.800 You can buy that at a dispenser now.

05:39:55.120 Where does one go and get cocaine, for example?

05:39:58.080 Where does one get LSD?

05:40:01.000 I literally don't know.

05:40:02.480 What?

05:40:05.320 I don't know.

05:40:06.500 I literally don't know.

05:40:07.680 I have...

05:40:08.180 It's just a funny conversation.

05:40:09.940 When I first left my ex-husband five years ago, I didn't know how to find porn.

05:40:14.700 I was looking for it on YouTube.

05:40:16.640 And I literally...

05:40:17.320 And now look, you do it yourself?

05:40:18.100 Yes.

05:40:18.880 But I do it on my terms.

05:40:20.700 I do it on my terms.

05:40:22.180 And I do it because...

05:40:22.820 She doesn't own her terms. 0.98

05:40:23.820 I do it because, to be honest with you, I was in a relationship where I couldn't even feel like a woman.

05:40:30.240 I couldn't even make eye contact with another man without getting abused.

05:40:34.460 So it was...

05:40:35.420 Yeah, but having heard your idea of what abuse is, I'm not confident that I share...

05:40:40.340 It was basically me going through my adolescence.

05:40:44.600 Sexually.

05:40:45.080 Nashua Naboo donated $69.

05:40:47.560 And now it's fun. 0.96

05:40:47.880 With you self-admitting, you suffer from a variety of mental health issues.

05:40:51.900 What makes your ex or even the state less qualified than you in caring for your children? 0.99

05:40:56.880 Well, my ex-husband's a pedophile. 0.88

05:40:58.800 So that's why. 0.99

05:41:00.480 That's okay.

05:41:01.200 Just...

05:41:01.640 Well, they asked...

05:41:04.100 I mean, you're letting these questions come through and you know my story.

05:41:06.660 So I don't know why you would let them come through.

05:41:08.320 If you know the...

05:41:08.860 What am I supposed to say?

05:41:10.080 Do you want me to lie?

05:41:12.760 Am I supposed to lie?

05:41:13.920 I don't know what you're going to say.

05:41:14.760 You're lucky I wasn't there.

05:41:14.980 I would not be playful with you trying to put your blank on my husband. 1.00

05:41:18.780 My ass, your ass on my husband. 1.00

05:41:20.960 You knew he was married. 1.00

05:41:22.260 Where's your apology to me for traumatizing me?

05:41:24.440 I'm sorry, Rachel.

05:41:26.020 That was disrespectful.

05:41:27.500 I should have made the extra steps and done it to Brian.

05:41:32.240 He is single.

05:41:33.340 So that wouldn't have been assaulting another woman at least.

05:41:36.960 Honestly, this is so crazy to me.

05:41:39.160 If it was Annie, if it was you or me who did that to a female panelist... 1.00

05:41:44.340 Gone.

05:41:44.640 Jail right now.

05:41:45.500 Where's my book?

05:41:45.900 The cops would have come literally on the sex detention registry. 0.99

05:41:52.420 Guys, where's my book?

05:41:54.140 I think it fell or something.

05:41:55.400 Where?

05:41:57.260 Oh.

05:41:57.940 Oh.

05:41:58.440 I'm sorry.

05:41:59.240 Andrew was reading it.

05:42:00.460 I already gave him his own copy.

05:42:02.020 Where's my hard copy?

05:42:02.780 Oh, there it is.

05:42:03.300 That's your hard copy.

05:42:03.960 Yeah, he just wanted to see the hard copy.

05:42:06.300 Was it hard enough for you?

05:42:09.800 That was a good one.

05:42:11.960 You got me.

05:42:13.780 You know what?

05:42:14.680 Now I'm just going to promote my OnlyFans because that's fun.

05:42:17.500 So do you guys want to ask me OnlyFans questions?

05:42:19.780 Why aren't they asking me, like, what type of content I have?

05:42:22.460 What?

05:42:23.220 What?

05:42:23.780 I mean, nobody wants to know.

05:42:26.000 It could either be you get naked or you don't.

05:42:29.060 It's pretty simple.

05:42:30.160 I actually don't get naked in all my content.

05:42:31.880 Yeah.

05:42:32.100 So then just...

05:42:33.020 There's tutorials on there.

05:42:34.440 I like the caveat there.

05:42:35.120 There is...

05:42:36.340 I squirted for my first time.

05:42:38.340 I have a tutorial on there.

05:42:39.800 We made it into a tutorial.

05:42:41.500 Very educational. 0.97

05:42:43.220 I have blowjob tutorials. 0.96

05:42:45.540 Am I allowed to say this? 0.93

05:42:49.020 Am I not allowed to say this?

05:42:50.860 Yeah, go ahead.

05:42:51.200 Is this a child?

05:42:53.480 It's a child platform?

05:42:57.800 I got it.

05:42:58.800 I got it.

05:42:59.660 You're not comfortable with sex.

05:43:00.720 I got it.

05:43:01.140 Rothunders call PSA donated $69.

05:43:04.220 Question to Maddie.

05:43:05.340 What does the 1975 tattoo signify?

05:43:08.820 It's a much better question than her OnlyFans.

05:43:12.080 What the heck?

05:43:13.260 It's my father's birth year. 0.60

05:43:17.560 Word.

05:43:20.080 Word.

05:43:21.760 All right.

05:43:23.520 I'm lowering the row session.

05:43:24.940 It's going to be $30 TTS if you guys want to get it in.

05:43:29.680 So feel free.

05:43:30.640 There was a TTS asking a question a while ago,

05:43:33.160 and I don't think you got to it.

05:43:34.360 It was by Nama.

05:43:36.920 Did it trigger?

05:43:37.960 We just didn't answer it?

05:43:39.300 It didn't trigger.

05:43:39.900 You just didn't answer it.

05:43:47.480 I'm not sure what it was.

05:43:48.800 How long ago?

05:43:49.600 By who?

05:43:52.640 Nabu?

05:43:54.480 Nabu?

05:43:56.260 If all of your children came to the conclusion...

05:43:58.340 That one?

05:44:02.480 Is he messaging you?

05:44:05.420 Oh, just read it, and then I can answer it in that way.

05:44:09.040 If all of your children came to the conclusion that God wanted them to live...

05:44:12.340 Oh.

05:44:13.320 No, we read that.

05:44:14.140 We did that one.

05:44:15.100 Yeah.

05:44:15.480 Unless there was another one.

05:44:16.720 No, that's a different one.

05:44:18.840 Nabu?

05:44:19.840 Is that the person, Nick?

05:44:22.320 Yeah.

05:44:22.780 I'm pretty...

05:44:23.160 We read it.

05:44:23.780 Yeah, we read that one.

05:44:24.440 We read it.

05:44:25.180 Yeah.

05:44:25.520 I'm pretty sure.

05:44:26.080 What are you drinking, Andrew?

05:44:29.780 Is that like a soda?

05:44:30.600 A special soda?

05:44:31.640 $30 TTS if you want for five, ten minutes.

05:44:33.860 Special pink soda.

05:44:34.960 Pink, like, pink lemonade?

05:44:36.180 What is it?

05:44:36.460 We can get your roast in.

05:44:37.320 It's a pink lemonade Smirnoff.

05:44:39.280 All right.

05:44:39.700 Oh, like one of those cocktails. 0.99

05:44:40.740 Yeah, because that was all that was in the fucking fridge, because Brian doesn't keep 0.99

05:44:43.280 beer. 0.99

05:44:43.860 There's...

05:44:44.460 I thought there was beer.

05:44:45.360 Brian only keeps grilly drinks.

05:44:47.080 No beer.

05:44:47.920 I have to keep that.

05:44:48.420 Andrew was so mad that there wasn't real beer in there that he smashed the first one

05:44:52.440 of those.

05:44:52.860 That's true.

05:44:53.300 I did smash it.

05:44:54.560 Andrew, have you ever been a part of anger management? 1.00

05:44:56.920 Fuck this shit. 1.00

05:44:57.860 Threw it on the ground, but then he's like, damn, I need beer. 1.00

05:45:00.000 I need some beer. 0.99

05:45:00.760 I need some alcohol.

05:45:01.280 What's your beer?

05:45:01.980 What is your...

05:45:02.680 What's your favorite beer?

05:45:04.660 He likes Mike's Hard Lemonade.

05:45:06.880 That's not a beer.

05:45:08.000 What's your favorite beer?

05:45:08.580 That's his go-to.

05:45:09.320 Just piss water Miller.

05:45:11.300 Miller?

05:45:11.940 Like, not Miller Lite?

05:45:13.180 Just straight Miller?

05:45:13.880 Yeah, Miller.

05:45:14.180 Okay. 0.97

05:45:14.560 When you said piss, it reminded me of the Dumb and Dumber scene where he drinks the 0.97

05:45:18.360 pee, and he's like...

05:45:19.600 Remember that scene in Dumb and Dumber?

05:45:22.720 Yeah.

05:45:23.620 Fast.

05:45:24.380 Fast.

05:45:24.960 That's a good one.

05:45:25.520 I'm dating myself.

05:45:26.620 I'm dating myself.

05:45:27.660 But I can't... 0.87

05:45:28.380 I don't even know these freaking words that the kids use these days. 0.90

05:45:30.960 I got to get up with the times. 0.95

05:45:33.020 Probably.

05:45:33.520 I need to call my...

05:45:34.720 I need to call my consultant, my kids.

05:45:38.860 They tell me what the words mean, because I'm not really sure these days.

05:45:41.840 I'm too old.

05:45:42.820 My OnlyFans has a lot of very mature content.

05:45:46.640 Old lady. 0.99

05:45:47.400 Old lady style. 0.97

05:45:49.220 Let's watch the trailer to Debate University, I think.

05:45:53.740 I think we should watch it.

05:45:56.020 Right?

05:45:56.620 You think we should watch it?

05:45:57.500 I think we should.

05:45:58.260 Would you give it...

05:45:58.300 Guys.

05:45:58.980 Would you comp me access to your program?

05:46:01.660 Do I actually have to pay it?

05:46:02.460 No.

05:46:02.900 Actually, you have to pay twice.

05:46:04.380 How much is it?

05:46:04.900 Double.

05:46:05.280 How much is it?

05:46:06.120 $500.

05:46:06.760 $4.99.

05:46:07.620 And what's included?

05:46:09.140 The course.

05:46:09.880 Six hours of instruction.

05:46:12.580 Oh, my God.

05:46:13.140 I got to raise my prices.

05:46:13.680 80 plus videos.

05:46:14.440 You got a lot of people?

05:46:16.260 Yeah, I know, but this is actually good.

05:46:17.700 I read your book in like 45 minutes.

05:46:20.240 Oh, I'm bad.

05:46:20.800 You read it.

05:46:21.500 Quickly.

05:46:22.320 Is the TTS not working?

05:46:22.980 So, I teach a 12-week course called Dream Builder.

05:46:27.120 I have a video.

05:46:29.500 Well, DebateUniversity.com, Nick, if you're able to pull it up.

05:46:32.320 Oh, can I not have a leg?

05:46:33.820 Wasn't I having a problem with my leg?

05:46:36.900 Yeah, show the site, then we'll do the trailer.

05:46:39.360 Dread donated $30.

05:46:42.220 Psychopaths may exhibit a lack of empathy or remorse and can be impulsive, manipulative, and deceitful.

05:46:49.340 So, she's against her own code.

05:46:51.380 Sad, she's trying to preach her BS to you guys. 0.99

05:46:57.060 Valdev donated $30.

05:46:59.380 No, Morgan?

05:47:00.620 Cute outfit, Maddie.

05:47:02.100 Andrew, get you some hanger.

05:47:03.660 One mandarin blossom vodka. 1.00

05:47:05.600 That shit is so good. 1.00

05:47:06.600 BTW, whatever. 1.00

05:47:07.880 And the Crucible have been added to the ammo budget.

05:47:10.740 Well, thank you.

05:47:11.600 That means it's serious.

05:47:12.580 Jesus on the throne donated $29.99.

05:47:16.840 Desiree, get back on daddy's lap. 1.00

05:47:18.920 The second coming of Christ is upon you.

05:47:21.640 Oh, who's daddy?

05:47:22.240 You don't know what the ammo budget is?

05:47:23.960 Who's the daddy?

05:47:24.880 Who's daddy's lap am I hopping on?

05:47:26.640 Every man has an ammo budget.

05:47:28.820 And if you get added to the ammo budget, then that means...

05:47:31.320 Listen up, boys.

05:47:32.540 You're always going to get...

05:47:33.480 The man code.

05:47:33.780 The man code.

05:47:34.360 You have an ammo budget.

05:47:35.340 That's how that works.

05:47:36.100 There is an ammo budget.

05:47:37.200 Oh, we're...

05:47:37.640 Like the podcast...

05:47:38.780 We're part of...

05:47:39.400 We're part of the ammo budget.

05:47:40.820 Oh, okay.

05:47:40.920 That means no matter what, you always have to have the ammo.

05:47:43.640 You see?

05:47:43.980 Is the ammo like weaponry?

05:47:45.200 I see.

05:47:45.500 Actual physical weaponry?

05:47:46.580 So he'll always be a supporter.

05:47:47.880 Always be a supporter.

05:47:48.700 I see.

05:47:49.140 Part of the ammo budget.

05:47:49.980 I see.

05:47:50.580 Yeah.

05:47:51.300 The ammo is like guns, like literal ammo?

05:47:54.300 Or are we talking about like psychological ammo?

05:47:55.280 Yeah.

05:47:55.300 Every man has an ammunition budget, yeah.

05:47:57.620 I like that.

05:47:58.620 Man code. 1.00

05:47:59.300 Man shit. 0.99

05:47:59.760 I only really know woman code, and I'm just filling in the gaps with what is man code. 0.99

05:48:04.660 Let's play the trailer.

05:48:05.700 Let's go to debateuniversity.com really quick.

05:48:08.600 There it is, and then there's a trailer that you guys can watch, which we're going to play

05:48:11.740 right now.

05:48:12.860 Are you sick of not being able to defend your position?

05:48:16.800 Wait, what?

05:48:18.040 That's what the hook is.

05:48:19.560 That's what the hook is.

05:48:20.440 Ready?

05:48:27.480 Your job is not to show mercy.

05:48:30.060 No mercy.

05:48:30.420 Your job is not to back off and allow them to maintain their false ideas.

05:48:36.680 That's not your job.

05:48:37.480 It is nebulous.

05:48:38.520 I understand it's nebulous, but I'm also not the one who's making the affirmative claim

05:48:42.920 you are.

05:48:44.540 So let's start with some dirty tricks. 0.98

05:48:47.080 Some dirty tricks.

05:48:48.680 Some kind of hitting below the belt. 1.00

05:48:51.000 God damn it. 1.00

05:48:52.400 You're still whining. 1.00

05:48:53.340 Stop whining.

05:48:53.860 That is a product. 1.00

05:48:55.180 I'll smack you. 0.99

05:48:56.820 Honestly, does your dad say, thank you for prostituting yourself so I have air conditioning? 0.98

05:49:02.160 Well, now as we, hang on again, let me finish my turn.

05:49:04.400 Sure, sure, sure.

05:49:04.860 Go ahead.

05:49:05.120 So as we dive into this, though.

05:49:07.060 By the way, you say that you can't make a deterministic statement, which is a deterministic

05:49:12.340 statement. 1.00

05:49:13.860 Again, how dumb are you, Vosch? 1.00

05:49:15.840 Debate is a weapon, especially in the 21st century when living in the information age. 1.00

05:49:21.280 This debate is over.

05:49:22.740 Goodbye.

05:49:23.880 Goodbye. 1.00

05:49:25.060 Jackass. 1.00

05:49:25.980 I'm not interested in your stupid prattle. 1.00

05:49:28.000 Answer my question. 1.00

05:49:29.060 That makes no sense. 1.00

05:49:30.460 That's the stupidest thing I've heard out of you tonight. 1.00

05:49:32.540 Why would you do anything if you didn't care? 1.00

05:49:38.700 Beautiful.

05:49:41.600 Beautiful.

05:49:42.420 Do you think it would be interesting if we offered, like, viewers, if they, well, they

05:49:47.240 would need access.

05:49:48.780 Maybe this is among the people who have the program.

05:49:51.800 If any of them are editors and they, like, chop up, like, you know how movies will have

05:49:56.160 multiple trailers.

05:49:57.040 No, I thought we were going to announce the, we were going to announce the, what was it?

05:50:03.400 The edit fight, right?

05:50:04.880 What do they call that?

05:50:05.800 It's like, what I want to do is take the top 10 edits.

05:50:10.420 For a trailer?

05:50:10.800 Yeah, for the trailer.

05:50:12.640 The winner, I'll give them $250, a whatever hoodie, and a Crucible hoodie.

05:50:20.080 So, make a trailer for it.

05:50:22.220 Put the best of.

05:50:23.940 And if you win, that's what we'll give you.

05:50:27.660 And I was thinking maybe, like, a year of the membership for the.

05:50:30.940 Yeah, well, they get the course for free, of course.

05:50:32.600 Yeah.

05:50:33.420 Well, but they would, like, we also want to give them, like, actual segments from the

05:50:39.360 program to make the edit, though.

05:50:40.860 No, they make, no, not for the, it's not necessary for the trailer.

05:50:44.700 Other, I mean, yeah.

05:50:46.620 Wouldn't you want some of that?

05:50:47.800 Some of it.

05:50:48.800 So, can it only be open to people who.

05:50:52.560 Yeah, you want the best clips for debate that we can possibly get.

05:50:56.240 Well, there's that, but then there's also, like, we would want to splice in segments from

05:51:02.200 the actual program.

05:51:04.140 Yeah, I don't know about that.

05:51:06.280 I mean, so there's different kinds of trailers.

05:51:08.240 I mean, yeah.

05:51:09.360 Yeah.

05:51:09.720 Let me get. 0.97

05:51:11.440 Isaiah Fluke donated $50.

05:51:13.700 Thank you, Isaiah.

05:51:14.180 Good work, Brian and Andrew.

05:51:16.220 I'm happy to see Debate University getting released.

05:51:19.680 It might help clean up my comments.

05:51:22.460 Isaiah, thank you for the TTS, man.

05:51:25.000 Do appreciate it.

05:51:25.620 I just had to hide that specific one, but thank you for the patronage.

05:51:30.680 Appreciate it, guys.

05:51:31.360 Thank you all.

05:51:32.080 Swift Tim donated $30.

05:51:34.680 Hearing Andrew has been swatted makes me want to support you guys even more.

05:51:39.340 And Brian getting blackmailed.

05:51:41.340 This DGN has demonstrated every reason to know have custody.

05:51:45.800 She'll indoctrinate them. 0.95

05:51:49.000 Brian's lint roller donated $30.

05:51:51.860 Andrew knew he would get cooked if he brought up epistemology again.

05:51:56.280 Desiree has a PhD in the study of the epistles.

05:51:59.140 She's the subject matter expert.

05:52:02.860 Dude, that was too much.

05:52:04.380 That was a good one.

05:52:05.520 That was a good one.

05:52:06.360 Hey, at least they're getting more intellectual.

05:52:08.560 Your strategy on this podcast was to come on and make yourself look better to the courts 0.99

05:52:13.200 by saying you'd kill your kids by lethal injection if you didn't like their life. 0.99

05:52:17.500 No, that I would hold them accountable. 0.97

05:52:19.880 It was so that the court would know I would hold my own children to the same accountability

05:52:25.060 that I would hold even myself or anybody else.

05:52:28.080 By the way, Swift Tim.

05:52:29.260 It's a bold strategy, Cotton.

05:52:30.400 Let's see if it pays off.

05:52:31.980 Desiree, your dress looks like an ugly green window valance. 0.99

05:52:35.660 L only vans.

05:52:37.040 L book.

05:52:37.940 Since you don't understand Gen Z, Skibbity Toil at Rizzler. 0.99

05:52:42.640 Giant on Livy Dunn.

05:52:44.440 W Baby Gronk.

05:52:46.120 Fortnite only in Ohio.

05:52:48.320 I was going to say, it does look like you're wearing a curtain.

05:52:50.340 What was it?

05:52:50.760 By the way, Swift Tim, I do appreciate your support on that.

05:52:53.760 Yeah, you should, I mean, you guys can see some of what goes on on the shows that me

05:52:59.080 and Andrew have to deal with.

05:53:00.120 Do you like that better?

05:53:00.740 I asked what you guys wanted me to wear and you weren't getting back to me.

05:53:04.260 Okay.

05:53:04.500 You see what happens on the show that me and Andrew have to deal with.

05:53:08.540 I can tell you that's the tip of the iceberg when it comes to what Andrew deals with, what

05:53:12.980 I deal with.

05:53:13.760 You think what goes on the show stresses us out?

05:53:16.180 It's everything that you never hear about that happens behind the scenes.

05:53:20.720 Like unsolicited nudes that they get.

05:53:22.760 The conversations, while sometimes can be annoying or frustrating. 1.00

05:53:25.980 Unsolicited ass. 0.99

05:53:26.500 Hold on, hold on. 1.00

05:53:28.060 It's not even that, honestly.

05:53:29.440 It's so rough.

05:53:30.000 I think Andrew can agree.

05:53:30.920 Yeah, he wanted it.

05:53:32.160 He wanted it.

05:53:33.660 You didn't, obviously.

05:53:36.360 I think Andrew would agree on this.

05:53:37.280 Yeah, I would agree on it.

05:53:38.140 It's what you see on the show is the tip of the iceberg when it comes to like the nonsense

05:53:43.500 that we have to deal with.

05:53:46.060 So, yeah.

05:53:47.900 The show is good.

05:53:49.100 The show, I'm cool with the show.

05:53:50.420 Yeah, the show's great.

05:53:51.320 The show's good.

05:53:52.220 It's everything behind the scenes. 0.87

05:53:53.520 It's the lunatics who come after the show. 0.96

05:53:55.400 Oh, man. 0.98

05:53:56.320 You should see like some of this.

05:53:58.600 Yeah, it's bad.

05:53:59.840 Anyways, let me let these come through and then we will try to wrap up here.

05:54:03.720 J. Brooks donated $29.99.

05:54:08.180 Just joined and clearly I have missed some juiciness.

05:54:11.220 Can't wait to listen to this one tomorrow.

05:54:13.560 Thank you, J. 0.98

05:54:13.940 Andrew, thank you for destroying that clown destiny. 0.94

05:54:17.460 Been a tough year for that guy, lol. 0.98

05:54:19.700 Sure has.

05:54:20.760 It's been a rough one.

05:54:21.940 Trump 2024 donated $29.99.

05:54:27.000 S. I only caught the last 45 minutes of the convo.

05:54:30.780 I didn't realize her ex was a creep, so that's my bad.

05:54:34.820 Still, what's the exes go fund me?

05:54:37.800 Inshallah.

05:54:39.760 Yoni Toast donated $30.

05:54:40.540 I mean, he could use the money.

05:54:41.840 I'm tempted to give him a money.

05:54:42.880 I think she's an undercover CIA or this is a skit.

05:54:46.140 She's excellent, W.

05:54:47.940 Verbal skills even when shut down.

05:54:50.600 You're doing a disservice, Brian. 0.64

05:54:52.900 Then promote sexual acts, odd ideals. 0.90

05:54:56.160 Victim.

05:54:56.980 This real.

05:54:58.520 Sir CB donated $30.

05:55:01.440 She would be a likable person if she wasn't a 304. 1.00

05:55:05.600 I'd watch her if she was dressed like an Amish woman doing house chores. 1.00

05:55:10.000 Brian, when are we getting hawked to a girl?

05:55:14.000 Was this before or after she wanted me and Andrew to cease to exist and the legal threats?

05:55:19.320 I think a lot of these are latecomers.

05:55:21.040 Yeah.

05:55:23.480 I had to work through my rage.

05:55:25.020 I invited on the hawk to a girl, but no response. 0.55

05:55:30.000 Maybe.

05:55:30.560 We'll see.

05:55:31.380 Lol Paladins donated $30.

05:55:33.480 If you know her, let me... 0.97

05:55:34.080 Hell for the planet, because I know a certain percentage of you degenerates watching will 0.80

05:55:38.680 subscribe to her of thanks to this.

05:55:41.300 I don't want to exist on this planet anymore.

05:55:45.380 You're good, Lol Paladins.

05:55:46.740 You'll make it, bro.

05:55:47.740 Yeah.

05:55:48.080 It's not that bad.

05:55:48.800 It's not that bad.

05:55:49.460 Glenn Lawrence presents pro donated $40.

05:55:52.040 Reacting to this debate tonight is going to be a doozy.

05:55:56.100 I think that she is the problem in society, and I think that she should be deleted.

05:56:01.120 I just got that message from her god.

05:56:04.980 Jay Ekin donated $30.

05:56:06.980 Crazy.

05:56:07.440 I now know what an aneurysm feels like.

05:56:10.280 Madison needs ice cream. 1.00

05:56:12.520 Nick, whatever are you wearing on your right hip?

05:56:15.300 Lol.

05:56:16.060 It's not much but for the beer fund.

05:56:18.560 Love you all.

05:56:19.560 Jay saw it.

05:56:20.360 Jay saw it.

05:56:20.960 Virginia Redneck donated $30.

05:56:23.540 Happy birthday, Rachel.

05:56:25.240 It's Rachel's birthday.

05:56:25.800 Love whatever and the crucible.

05:56:27.420 Happy birthday.

05:56:27.920 Check out Rachel's book.

05:56:29.560 Where are you on a birthday trip?

05:56:30.880 God bless you all.

05:56:33.260 Because I'm working.

05:56:38.300 Guys, get this book.

05:56:39.780 The reason that you need to buy that book, even though it's Rachel's birthday, is because

05:56:43.580 I take all of the money to buy...

05:56:46.060 Concealed man donated $30.

05:56:47.840 It's impressive how you exploit others while hiding behind a facade of confidence.

05:56:54.220 Promoting sex work and manipulating people shows your true colors.

05:56:58.920 Try being a better example for your child instead.

05:57:01.760 Thomas donated $30.

05:57:04.440 Let me get this straight.

05:57:07.420 In this podcast, she admitted to multiple counts of SA.

05:57:11.320 Dropped the N-bomb. 0.99

05:57:13.140 Said you two should be unalived.

05:57:15.640 Wonder how this would go for a man.

05:57:19.460 Valdev donated $30.

05:57:21.040 Hey, no CIA slander, S-H-I-T, head.

05:57:28.480 I don't get it. 1.00

05:57:29.600 No CIA slander, shithead? 0.99

05:57:31.520 I don't get it. 1.00

05:57:32.600 Yeah, you just repeated it.

05:57:33.800 Yeah.

05:57:34.600 Cowboy react donated $30.

05:57:36.980 Thank you, Valdea.

05:57:37.500 I'm watching this on the watch party with Rachel on the crucible and Lady E dropped the N-bomb 1.00

05:57:42.660 and said a black girl was there earlier all, so she apologized to Rachel then flirted with 1.00

05:57:48.060 Andrew again.

05:57:51.300 Did I flirt with you?

05:57:54.120 I didn't mean to.

05:57:56.360 I did not mean to.

05:57:58.220 My dad always told me that I should not be so nice to guys or they would think I was flirting.

05:58:02.720 I guess that's true.

05:58:04.940 Okay.

05:58:05.380 We have Canisius.

05:58:10.120 Andrew, if she's right, then each person is God.

05:58:12.760 And you're also God.

05:58:13.640 Does that mean that God would only...

05:58:15.700 Jordan, on this quarter, dated 29.

05:58:18.060 I'll pull it back up.

05:58:20.400 Thank you, guys, for all that you do.

05:58:22.620 Thank you, Jordan.

05:58:23.160 Andrew, do you recommend any history of the Bible books from one of your previous conversations

05:58:28.460 on the show? 0.77

05:58:29.820 Also, Desiree, your psycho, Christ is king. 0.93

05:58:33.380 Yeah, there's a limited edition... 0.90

05:58:34.760 Shniko, oh, for donated $30.

05:58:37.500 Andrew and O'Brien would love to buy you a burger and a beer if you're ever up north in SLO.

05:58:43.680 Thanks for all that you do.

05:58:45.380 Hey, thanks for the super, ma'am. 1.00

05:58:46.320 Thank you.

05:58:48.280 That's San Luis Obispo.

05:58:50.660 Weren't you trying to go to...

05:58:52.340 Well, Chumash is like another hour.

05:58:55.800 Or San Luis Obispo is like an hour past, I think, the Chumash. 1.00

05:59:01.020 Anyways, whatever.

05:59:01.880 Thank you, man.

05:59:02.560 But the answer to that previous super chat, there's a limited edition you can still find.

05:59:06.320 It's kind of rare now, but it's called Biblica.

05:59:08.380 Biblica, ginormous book.

05:59:10.940 It's the Bible Atlas.

05:59:12.160 It's called Biblica.

05:59:14.200 That's one of my favorites.

05:59:15.400 Sons of Liberty donated $30.

05:59:18.100 Please debate the Carmela cook from Tuesday.

05:59:21.300 Carmela slept her way to the top, wants to defund the police, give free health care to illegals. 1.00

05:59:27.720 Carmela is a socialist and a threat to our republic. 1.00

05:59:30.480 We're working on it.

05:59:31.280 We're trying to make it happen.

05:59:32.340 I think she was a little put off.

05:59:36.400 I didn't really feel like it was too contentious with her, honestly.

05:59:40.080 I mean, I thought it was a good conversation, but I think we'll make sure...

05:59:44.100 Jai Vanik donated $30.

05:59:46.640 Desiree, as a lawyer, how did you think this was a good idea if you actually are in a custody dispute?

05:59:52.900 Do you worry about your kids seeing this and their friends teasing them, praying for you?

06:00:00.000 You want me to respond to that?

06:00:01.340 If you want.

06:00:02.340 So, it was, am I concerned about my kids seeing this? 0.98

06:00:08.620 And then, no, my kids aren't really the type that give a shit about people's opinions. 0.98

06:00:15.320 So, I'm not worried about that. 0.96

06:00:18.260 If they had some sort of issue with it, we would just talk through it like we do anything else.

06:00:22.220 They know I'm a public figure and that I get criticized a lot for my viewpoints.

06:00:27.000 So, it's kind of just our normal family culture.

06:00:30.380 Glenn Lawrence presents pro donated $29.

06:00:40.580 Brian, I grew up in Santa Barbara.

06:00:43.580 Cumash Casino is about 45 minutes north of you.

06:00:47.500 San Luis Obispo is about an hour and 15 minutes north of the casino.

06:00:52.260 No, for Rachel's birthday, I'm grabbing the rocks.

06:00:57.360 Get the rocks.

06:00:58.860 Abdul.

06:00:59.600 Thank you.

06:01:00.280 Get the rocks.

06:01:00.540 Get the rocks.

06:01:02.280 I didn't know you're from Santa Barbara.

06:01:03.800 That's cool, man.

06:01:04.260 Sorry, hold on.

06:01:07.900 Guys, get your last minutes in.

06:01:09.400 Maddie, can you finish reading this?

06:01:11.880 Andrew, if she is right and each person is God and you are also God, does that mean God

06:01:17.720 would only be a four out of ten?

06:01:19.700 Also, can you throw out a, this is what men do?

06:01:22.900 Thanks to the crucible for doing the Lord's work.

06:01:25.160 Where's the camera I can look into?

06:01:27.540 All right.

06:01:27.960 Because that's what men do.

06:01:32.680 Wait, do it one more time?

06:01:35.780 One more time.

06:01:36.640 I did it.

06:01:37.160 I did it.

06:01:37.680 We're moving on.

06:01:38.500 Oh, okay.

06:01:38.920 We're moving on.

06:01:39.800 I did it.

06:01:40.440 He gave 100%.

06:01:41.700 Let's see.

06:01:42.440 I can't do it again.

06:01:43.700 Okay.

06:01:44.620 All right.

06:01:45.060 If you want, guys, get your last minute messages in.

06:01:47.680 Last call, final call.

06:01:49.300 I'll spam this really quick.

06:01:52.440 Then we're going to get out of here, guys.

06:01:54.460 I hope you enjoyed the stream.

06:01:55.620 Boom, boom, boom.

06:01:58.560 Is Rachel doing the stream?

06:02:00.080 She is.

06:02:00.460 She is live.

06:02:01.260 I'm sure that she's tired.

06:02:02.340 This probably went on a lot longer than she thought.

06:02:04.940 But if you do, do a raid over there.

06:02:07.420 Make sure the people over here, whatever.

06:02:09.880 She always does a good job over there. 1.00

06:02:11.500 Maybe you can send a little support her way.

06:02:13.580 Yes.

06:02:13.960 Let me do a redirect over there.

06:02:17.460 And then we'll do a raid watch party.

06:02:21.540 Lady Epistle.

06:02:24.600 Okay.

06:02:25.620 So that should be set.

06:02:27.360 We're going to do a Twitch raid if you want.

06:02:28.800 Get your last minute messages in.

06:02:30.160 Last call on the TTSs.

06:02:32.240 I really appreciate your guys' support and patronage.

06:02:35.280 I know this was kind of a sort of unannounced, kind of random show on a Thursday.

06:02:40.460 But appreciate y'all for tuning in.

06:02:42.560 You guys seem, I mean, the viewership was really good.

06:02:44.380 As good as our dating talk.

06:02:46.280 So credit to Desiree on that, I suppose.

06:02:49.320 It was good on the Crucible, too.

06:02:50.480 Sweet.

06:02:50.920 That's awesome.

06:02:52.080 All right.

06:02:52.440 Who are we going to raid on Twitch?

06:02:53.820 Let's see.

06:02:55.560 Who are we going to raid on Twitch?

06:02:57.740 I want melons donated $69.

06:03:09.960 Just saw the stream with Andrew Wife on the Crucible.

06:03:13.040 Pull up her stream?

06:03:13.780 Can you say hi to her?

06:03:15.380 Now that's a woman. 0.98

06:03:16.460 Was she streaming?

06:03:17.020 By the way, Desiree Such B.S.

06:03:20.000 I'm only seeing that book going in a toilet.

06:03:22.400 Pull up the Crucible stream.

06:03:26.540 Pull up the Crucible stream.

06:03:29.460 That's all right.

06:03:30.480 Yeah.

06:03:31.320 Not good home training donated $30.

06:03:34.420 You have a Nick post saying age wasn't the problem when you lost your virginity at 13.

06:03:39.940 When you start training your kids, are you going to use an actual man or are you going use one of your dildos? 0.99

06:03:46.640 What the hell, bro? 0.97

06:03:48.500 That's crazy. 0.97

06:03:49.280 I don't think I would be allowed to talk about that on YouTube, right?

06:03:55.000 A little inappropriate.

06:03:56.180 Wait.

06:03:56.360 Can you pull up the stream, Nick?

06:04:00.480 Yeah.

06:04:01.300 Do you guys still need me here?

06:04:02.720 We're going to write.

06:04:03.280 Yeah.

06:04:03.360 Mrs. Andrews X donated $29.99.

06:04:07.980 I am Andrews X.

06:04:10.020 Believe it or not, I am the first to buy Desiree's book.

06:04:14.060 No cap.

06:04:14.720 After reading this book, I was like she-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-eat.

06:04:20.400 I will start a book club and call M.M. Han. 0.87

06:04:24.020 She... 1.00

06:04:24.180 She... 1.00

06:04:24.900 alright let's see

06:04:27.480 alright Rachel you're coming up

06:04:29.760 what do you have to say

06:04:30.660 how did you think this was a good idea

06:04:33.140 Rachel pause

06:04:34.820 hold on

06:04:35.880 you're going to have to give it a second

06:04:40.740 pause it Rachel

06:04:42.560 pause it

06:04:43.020 the same setting with Daisy

06:04:47.440 and put a

06:04:48.840 wait Daisy

06:04:49.880 fresh Daisy

06:04:51.300 oh right

06:04:55.020 what do you think if we got her back on

06:04:57.180 that would be fun

06:04:57.960 I don't think I'd want to talk about

06:05:00.720 the Walter stuff

06:05:02.020 I think it's fine

06:05:04.320 we already went through that

06:05:06.640 said that

06:05:07.080 can you pull it up

06:05:09.440 pictures of you with Suja on your face

06:05:11.740 just our normal family culture

06:05:14.120 we magically

06:05:16.960 paused it at the right spot

06:05:18.580 I don't think we

06:05:19.620 you see what God

06:05:21.360 just

06:05:21.600 wait wait

06:05:22.120 they have to pause

06:05:23.500 I need to read a little bit

06:05:25.500 nothing

06:05:25.840 just our normal family culture 0.98

06:05:29.200 there's going to be some fucking inception dude 0.98

06:05:34.380 yeah 0.99

06:05:34.920 they have to pause

06:05:39.500 wait

06:05:40.240 there we go

06:05:44.000 I see what he's trying to do

06:05:46.240 he's trying to get you streamed in there

06:05:47.900 so now you should be able to talk

06:05:49.620 but you can't hear him at all

06:05:51.040 unless you're watching on your phone

06:05:52.960 so open up their stream

06:05:54.340 we just need her to say something

06:05:55.480 on your phone

06:05:55.720 and we're going to do some weird backwards stream section

06:05:58.060 where our stream won't be able to hear

06:06:00.960 can you guys tell her just to

06:06:02.240 yeah see now I can hear myself on their stream

06:06:04.400 okay

06:06:04.640 so say hi to their chat

06:06:07.200 and tell them

06:06:08.580 hi whatever chat

06:06:09.820 this is weird

06:06:11.220 happy birthday Rachel

06:06:12.360 I know she can't hear us but

06:06:13.680 happy birthday Rachel

06:06:15.020 happy birthday Rachel

06:06:15.800 hi Andrew

06:06:16.640 hi Brian 0.97

06:06:17.960 this is some weird inception shit going on right now Brian 0.97

06:06:26.920 well I thought 0.91

06:06:27.780 thank you so much for the happy birthday wishes

06:06:31.860 I appreciate you

06:06:33.080 she can't hear us

06:06:37.300 it doesn't work

06:06:37.900 she doesn't know what to do

06:06:39.540 she's like they're still going

06:06:42.020 okay we're going to give it another 10 seconds

06:06:46.100 Rachel

06:06:46.500 Rachel do you want to say anything to Desiree

06:06:49.100 Rachel do you want to say anything to Desiree

06:06:50.840 say something

06:06:51.500 I don't know if she's hearing that

06:06:54.060 we can get back to the proper show

06:06:56.020 I don't know what to do

06:06:59.720 okay all right

06:07:00.600 the Desiree

06:07:01.180 Rachel do you want to say anything to Desiree

06:07:02.880 say something

06:07:03.560 okay say something to Desiree real quick

06:07:07.020 oh yeah

06:07:08.360 to Desiree I'd like to say

06:07:10.240 don't have to touch my husband

06:07:12.380 and you should be glad I wasn't there

06:07:15.540 because I would have

06:07:16.580 I would have put a stop to that quickly

06:07:18.400 nice

06:07:20.380 from 2027

06:07:22.860 okay all right

06:07:26.060 I can already tell that I don't like you

06:07:33.640 okay

06:07:34.020 all right

06:07:35.580 I think that's it for the show

06:07:36.660 thank you guys

06:07:37.360 oh raid

06:07:39.580 twitch raid

06:07:40.180 okay

06:07:40.520 Nick

06:07:41.240 this is going to be an ampi

06:07:43.100 A-H-M-P-Y 1.00

06:07:45.120 on twitch

06:07:45.840 he is currently playing

06:07:47.420 World of Warcraft

06:07:48.400 classic

06:07:49.400 era

06:07:50.440 he's playing

06:07:51.060 he's doing PvP

06:07:52.640 Warsong Gulch

06:07:53.400 this guy

06:07:55.240 this guy

06:07:56.480 A-A-A 0.99

06:07:57.820 I'm like

06:07:58.960 hold on

06:07:59.500 A-H-M-P-Y 1.00

06:08:01.520 M-Q-Y 1.00

06:08:02.740 D

06:08:04.060 D

06:08:04.820 oh no

06:08:06.580 hold on

06:08:07.760 A-H-M-P-Y 1.00

06:08:10.860 oh okay

06:08:11.480 yeah

06:08:15.720 so we're going to raid him

06:08:16.880 actually

06:08:17.680 hold on

06:08:18.460 wait

06:08:18.760 bring it to twitch really quick

06:08:20.000 first

06:08:20.440 I need to do the outro

06:08:21.340 oh man

06:08:24.260 okay

06:08:24.680 guys go to twitch.tv

06:08:26.620 slash whatever

06:08:27.120 drops a follow

06:08:27.720 drops a prime sub

06:08:28.500 if you have one

06:08:29.320 guys it's been six minutes

06:08:30.980 since our last prime

06:08:31.720 I think it's bugged

06:08:32.360 help

06:08:32.620 help

06:08:33.780 drops a follow

06:08:34.840 and a prime sub

06:08:35.600 over there on twitch

06:08:36.400 also debateuniversity.com

06:08:38.700 debateuniversity.com

06:08:40.540 yeah

06:08:43.140 it's

06:08:43.780 if you want to learn

06:08:45.160 how to become a master debater

06:08:46.500 you need to check it out

06:08:47.400 oh just hang tight

06:08:48.320 Desiree

06:08:48.660 we're like right there

06:08:49.580 about to wrap

06:08:50.460 about to end the show right now

06:08:51.280 about to wrap

06:08:51.700 just hang tight

06:08:52.280 thank you

06:08:54.240 thank you

06:08:54.680 and then

06:08:55.120 bring it over

06:08:56.020 or actually hold on

06:08:56.980 so GG

06:08:58.300 well played

06:08:59.220 last call

06:08:59.820 hit the like button

06:09:00.380 please on your way out

06:09:01.120 thank you for tuning in tonight

06:09:01.940 you could have been anywhere in the world

06:09:03.320 but you're here with me

06:09:03.960 I appreciate that

06:09:04.560 thank you to everyone

06:09:05.100 who superchats

06:09:05.780 donates

06:09:06.200 and supports the show

06:09:07.780 we will be live again

06:09:09.120 tomorrow

06:09:09.640 with a debate

06:09:10.320 probably around

06:09:10.920 I think we're aiming for 4pm

06:09:12.560 to go live

06:09:13.260 that's going to be a good one

06:09:14.400 be sure to tune in for that

06:09:15.620 dating talk

06:09:16.440 will be live again

06:09:17.040 of course

06:09:17.380 on Sunday

06:09:18.000 5pm Pacific

06:09:18.820 07 is in the chat

06:09:20.580 let me do the raid

06:09:21.400 to Ampy

06:09:22.560 Nick

06:09:22.880 if you can get that going

06:09:23.800 pull that

06:09:25.100 he is playing

06:09:27.940 in Warsong Gulch

06:09:29.880 PVP

06:09:30.840 he's a warrior

06:09:31.780 this guy is one of the best

06:09:33.240 raid leaders

06:09:34.420 main tanks

06:09:35.440 in the game

06:09:36.320 you want to just wait

06:09:37.400 Desiree

06:09:37.940 oh

06:09:41.940 alright

06:09:43.500 okay

06:09:44.020 alright

06:09:45.160 well 0.95

06:09:46.040 we're going to raid him

06:09:46.980 so I hope you guys

06:09:48.180 tell him he should come on the podcast

06:09:49.580 tell him we can talk about

06:09:50.740 World of Warcraft

06:09:51.400 classic

06:09:52.860 but we're going to send the raid over

06:09:54.560 right now

06:09:56.160 thank you guys

06:09:56.700 for watching

06:09:57.420 those of you who watched on Twitch

06:09:58.960 raid sent

06:10:01.440 and he is

06:10:05.360 they're trying to return the flag

06:10:08.360 to the Horde base

06:10:10.060 in Warsong Gulch

06:10:11.320 and

06:10:12.800 he got out of it

06:10:15.400 I don't know if he's going to know this

06:10:18.740 I don't know if he even has a microphone on

06:10:22.780 at this point 0.99

06:10:24.200 I think he's just fucking 0.99

06:10:25.440 tuned in 0.99

06:10:26.880 to

06:10:28.060 you know

06:10:29.520 owning people in PVP

06:10:31.480 in any case

06:10:32.300 that's it

06:10:32.720 so I don't think he's

06:10:33.760 what the heck

06:10:34.600 bring it back 0.90

06:10:35.460 what the heck

06:10:36.280 can you hear the right row

06:10:39.300 I need those all

06:10:45.280 late night PVP stream

06:10:47.600 brought the clap this mage

06:10:49.160 okay

06:10:51.520 alright

06:10:53.700 I think that's good

06:10:55.040 alright

06:10:55.940 I think we're all caught up

06:10:57.560 just want to make sure

06:10:58.300 we're all caught up on chats

06:10:59.940 yep we're all good

06:11:00.800 alright guys

06:11:01.600 thank you again

06:11:02.080 so much for tuning in

06:11:03.260 it was an interesting one

06:11:04.660 probably one of the more

06:11:08.000 interesting streams we've had

06:11:10.560 so

06:11:11.960 thank you guys again

06:11:13.160 for tuning in

06:11:13.880 appreciate all the patronage tonight

06:11:15.740 your support's been very much appreciated

06:11:17.520 07's in the chat

06:11:19.240 goodnight guys

06:11:20.340 we'll see you next time

Whatever Podcast - August 02, 2024

Crazy Desiree ATTACKS Andrew Wilson & Brian？! FLASHES？! Unhinged RAGE QUIT？! ｜ Whatever Debates #7

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