Dating Talk #10
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3 hours and 40 minutes
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194.87196
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207
Summary
In this episode of Whatever Dating Talk, we're joined by Alex, Isabella, Jane, Ashley, and Tanner to talk about feminism and why it's important to be a feminist in the 21st century. We also hear from our listeners about their experiences with feminism, and what it means to them.
Transcript
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the American Network Against Labia Place, Steve.
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Really, it's the most pressing issue of our time.
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and mutilate themselves for purely cosmetic reasons.
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If you need any convincing to not go under the knife,
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we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.
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Professional photographer and brand consultant,
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Okay, so we have a bit of an older panel this time around.
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Why do you keep bringing on the 19, 20, 21-year-old college students?
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Last thing I'm going to just have us go around the table on is,
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I'll have to get back to you, but yes, I think so.
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that each gender should have the same opportunity
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and able to reach the same outcomes with what they're given.
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Everybody should be able to reach the same outcomes with what they're given,
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and I identify as a feminist with that definition, yes.
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I support women and their ideologies as long as it makes sense,
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but I don't know if feminism is something that I run after.
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As far as the modern definition of feminism goes,
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So we're going to go around the table and preference.
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What are your top preferences that you have when it comes to a partner?
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And we want you to try to list at least three physical traits
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funny, makes good money, loyal, et cetera, et cetera.
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Physical traits, I would say, like, I guess, like, tall, long hair.
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Do you have a, do you lean more so in one direction?
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But, and then non-physical, funny, like, smart, and just, like, easygoing.
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So, am I supposed to describe my husband right now?
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Even before your husband, you had a preference for tall men?
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And he put his height as 6'8", because he thought 6'9", would look weird.
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I kind of felt like a pet when I walked around with him, because I was, like, on his ribcage, basically.
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Can you scoot the microphone a bit to your, that way?
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I think I'm very hard on myself and very hard on my friends.
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I feel like I have not, like, very set physical standards for what I like.
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Mine are kind of a little bit more personality-based.
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For personality, like, I definitely like somebody who is very outgoing, who likes to party, who
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likes to have fun, somebody who has a, you know, a steady income, knows, you know, knows
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what their next move is, at least to keep up with me.
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For physical aspects, I like somebody kind of, like, with their own unique style.
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If they have tattoos, that's a plus, but it's, like, never, like, a must, you know?
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Because you never, like, see them from the back, you know?
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Do any of the girls here, do all of you have tattoos?
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I'm kind of totally derailing the conversation, but I kind of, I don't think you should.
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A lot of people, you know, I've actually gotten that.
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I've gotten that actually from my ex-boyfriend.
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The sternum tattoo is like the tramp stamp of the 2020s.
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I get what you're saying, but I'm going to cover my entire body.
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The thing is, like, I'm not really interested in like what people, I'm not really interested
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You should care deeply about what us as strangers think, by the way.
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Well, I don't know if you guys remember Eve from like 2001.
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Are you, are you seriously downplaying Rihanna right now?
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She literally owns like a very successful makeup company.
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Like kind of their own thing going for them that they're into either their style or their
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tattoos or like personality wise, like very into something that they kind of make their
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Other than that, like if you're attractive, I'm not like, there's not, you don't have to
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I like long hair, but I'm also down for the short hair if it looks good with your style.
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I think for my physical ones, it would be definitely height.
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I would like to produce D1 babies at some point and I am, I'm 5'3", so I need those
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I like colored eyes because I always figure if I'm going to get in an argument with somebody,
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The other thing is just making sure that they give like, I guess this goes into physical,
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Just making sure that you take care of yourself.
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Just, you know, making sure you don't smell, you brush your teeth, floss, stuff like that.
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Yeah, I would say in regards to like non-physical, making sure that they have empathy.
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I feel like I can be a lot sometimes with my emotions and I relate to you with that.
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I can be really hard on people and I feel like I need empathy and I try to give that
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But can you articulate what that means just so the viewers understand?
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I feel like for at least me as a female, how I feel about that is when I say I'm a lot,
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I can become very emotional and when I deal with stress sometimes I internalize it and
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then I blow up randomly and it can just not come off very nice.
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Try to work on that, you know, and work with it with the person you're with.
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Other thing would just be, you know, they're passionate about their life, regardless of
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it be with their career, with what they do outside of their life, and that they have
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their own personality and they do their own thing.
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I like my alone time a lot, so when I'm with someone, I want to make sure that they
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I don't want them like up my ass 20 per second.
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I want to be able to love them, but at the same time, they're like, dude, get away.
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Question for the two girls that said that you can be a lot.
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Brandon, so list three physical traits and three non-physical traits that you like or
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She's got to be, I mean, you know, I'm not too shallow, but, you know, she's got to take
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You know, she's got to have more or less a decent body.
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They have a certain morale about them that's just comforting to a real man, I feel, and
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Okay, okay, non-physical, just be down to earth.
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I don't really get along with girls that kind of just let it go with the mouth and kind of
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don't really let time for a pause, and if she's scattered that way, she's probably scattered
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other ways, and my experience in the past has been no go, red flag on that, but just be
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I'd say, you know, more like petite, nice hair, pretty face.
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I'd say sort of like non-physical, definitely kind, intelligent, empathetic, more like nurturing,
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It has like healthy hobbies, for sure, and you know, more family-oriented, good relationship
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with her family and, you know, siblings, all that stuff.
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As far as physical characteristics go, I like, I really like piercing blue eyes, and I like
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tall, fit chicks, like a girl that's somewhere between like 5'8 to 5'10, that's like pretty
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As far as values go, and like inner characteristics, she's got to love God, got to have conservative
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values, and I like intelligence, those are, that's nice, I like that.
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Okay, are you, are you on a dating, any dating apps, by the way?
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I thought you were about to say Christian Mingle.
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I probably, I probably should be, I probably should be, I'm on, I have, I have my Tinder
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Yeah, so you're, you have your Tinder set to Stockholm.
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And are you trying to fly out the Scandinavian chicks, or what, what are you trying to do?
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If, if you write, if you meet the right girl, you know, somehow make it work, bring her here,
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That's an interesting pull, nice, smart, maximizing, maximizing that.
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I don't mean to sound like an idiot, but like, I don't know.
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Okay, so, you seem confused by this, what's up, bro?
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Is it because there's not a lot of, I mean, we, we do live in Santa Barbara, California.
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Um, so, have you encountered, you mentioned you're looking for a religious woman?
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So, I, I suspect you've encountered difficulty in our location in Santa Barbara, finding a
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And so, is that why you're swiping, but is it much better in Stockholm?
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Also, I just want to give a quick shout out to the bras.
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Um, I am, uh, I am, I am, uh, irresistibly attracted to, uh, Scandinavian girls and to
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There's not, there's not a ton of those in Santa Barbara.
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There's, you've got some of the Scandinavian girls that go to city college and stuff.
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But, but of that pool, finding a conservative Christian girl is very hard.
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And, uh, there's not many of them here in Santa Barbara, if any at all, actually.
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Wait, are they Christian and very conservative in Scandinavia?
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Most, most of them are pretty liberal, but you get, you get the, uh.
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Yeah, you get, you get the sprinkling of Christians.
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Out of curiosity, are you withholding your Christian moralities?
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You're, you're withholding this moral that you have.
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To be honest, I actually, I actually downloaded it, like, last week.
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And, uh, my, my, my odds of finding the type of woman that I'm looking for on Tinder are basically zero.
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But it was more just, like, curiosity to see, like, who's out there.
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I was just curious because I was, like, Tinder.
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Yeah, I like, I like sending it to, like, different cities and seeing, like.
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You can actually, you can actually narrow down on your religious values and your, your political values, too, which makes more sense for you.
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But I feel like there's maybe a little side of you that isn't as, you know, struck to your morals as you think you are.
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Like, maybe you want, maybe you want it to be a little different.
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I will, I will, I will tell you, I will tell you, actually, I will tell you, I'm saving myself for my future wife.
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So, so I, I, I, I haven't, I haven't, so, so I'll give you guys the context.
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So in, in, in 2020, uh, as everything was picking up with COVID and stuff, like I was
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kind of looking at current events and I see there's a lot of biblical prophecy about the
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There's a lot of biblical prophecy about the end times that's being fulfilled right
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And like, I like really doubled down on my faith in 2020 and I had a girlfriend back
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then, her and I ended up breaking up over my religious values and stuff.
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But, uh, yeah, I haven't, I haven't had sex in like two and a half years.
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I haven't had sex in like two and a half years.
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And are, I assume you want the same expectation for the girl.
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Um, I mean, virgin would be ideal, but like low, low body count.
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If she's not a virgin, low body count is essential.
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Because, you know, everybody decides what they want to do with, you know, their personal sex life and stuff like that.
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But I feel, right, if you're wanting to withhold your Christianity and your standards, right?
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But I feel that, let's say you meet someone and you click with them and they have really good morals, but their sin or their weakness is sexual immorality.
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Would you 100% turn them away or would you actually try to work on that with them?
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I mean, I'd work, I'd work on it with them as a friend, but like.
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I'm not interested in marrying a girl with a high body count.
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Maybe the person that you like and, you know, has zero body count and there's something about you that they're being overtly judgmental on.
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And I also think that, like, we should be picky with who we marry.
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And if, if the fact that I'm not a virgin, for example, is a deal breaker for some girl, like, that's totally fair.
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Like, I have, I have my, like, lines in the sand and if she has lines in the sand, that's okay too.
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I was just curious if you, like, had looked at it from both sides.
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Like, more power to you for however you want to run it.
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But I just wanted to see if you had thought about that.
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When you say high body count, what, what do you consider a high body count?
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Like, if, if I'm looking for a wife, I don't want her to have been with, like, more than five to seven guys personally.
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Like, my standards are very different from a lot of guys here.
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So, like, most guys here probably aren't going to care as much as I do.
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I think that I'm just thinking of it in my own perspective.
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And it's just, like, I'm so far beyond that, like, that far, like, that thought.
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Like, that just doesn't even cross my mind anymore.
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Like, body count or, like, how many people you've been with.
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Like, that is so just not in my range of thought because I'm not thinking about that.
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I'm thinking of people, like, as a person and how they are.
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And I don't care about who they've been with or, like, what they've done in their past.
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I don't care about what they've done in their past, actually.
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What about, let me just come in real quick on this.
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What about, would you date a guy who previously slept with prostitutes?
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Those are women that have slept with, like, hundreds of dudes.
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Yeah, but that doesn't, like, that doesn't change who they are as a person.
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If I'm, like, if I love them and who they are and...
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But that is part of who they are is their career, right?
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Well, yeah, but he's saying if they had paid for prostitutes.
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Unprotected sex with, like, a dozen prostitutes.
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I mean, like, I want whoever I'm going to be with.
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If I care about who they've been with, like, of course I want them to be safe.
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Everybody that I've been with, like, I want them to be safe and tested and make sure they
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I mean, like, dude, if you want to get with someone, can you not get with someone without
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So, let me share with you why it's important to me is they've done studies, and for both
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sexes, the more sexual partners a person has, the higher the likelihood of divorce later
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And I think that's because, I think it's because the more people you sleep with, I think
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it desensitizes your body and soul and mind to pair bonding, right?
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So, like, when you have sex with somebody, you release oxytocin, and that causes the two
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Like, I think the reason why there's a higher divorce rate, the more people that someone
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sleeps with, is because that, like, pair bonding is blunted.
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Like, I really want, you know, to be a good father.
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And that's, like, part of the reason why I'm saving myself for my wife moving forward,
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And I came from a divorced family, and it was, like, the worst divorce, like, ever.
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And I just, like, don't want anything like that.
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Yeah, I definitely respect where you're coming from.
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I think that the reason that the people that have been with more people are more prone
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to divorce is because people that have more experience and have more sexual partners see
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what they like more and tolerate less bullshit, in my opinion, they come across something
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that is not okay with them, and they'll leave the relationship.
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Like, when I was 19, I dated, when I was 18, 19, I dated somebody for five years who was
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completely not right for me because I thought that that was who I was supposed to be with.
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You know, I've already, you know, my body count was, what, two at that time?
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I was like, I'm going to stay with him forever.
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And I put up with so much bullshit that I absolutely should not have.
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And, you know, leaving that relationship and getting more experience in different relationships
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has, like, made me learn what I should and shouldn't tolerate.
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And now I really don't put up with anything that I shouldn't.
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And that's because I've learned that you will find somebody new, and you'll find somebody
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Multiple sides to that, and I definitely respect where you're coming from.
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And, like, I really respect it more that you are saving yourself now.
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That makes me, like, definitely see where you're coming from a little bit more.
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I think it's awesome that you're doing this, and it's hard, like, obviously.
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It just builds up, man, and you've got to have a release.
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Are you comfortable sharing what your body count was before this shift?
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So are you going to hope that the person that you're going to be with at some point
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hasn't slept with more than seven people than you?
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I mean, not because of your situation, but good luck.
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Honestly, like, if that's genuinely something that you're looking forward to, like, more
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But I think maybe you should search in your heart for a little bit more empathy.
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I just, maybe my personal views are going into that, but I just, that's just me, I guess.
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I feel like people who have slept with less people, like, one thing about them that could
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Like, they just are not interested in sleeping with people they don't connect with.
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Like, what's the point of hooking up with someone if you don't really like them and
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But I think it's also a fair point that people sometimes just want to, like, have fun.
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And if that's fun for them, I have no judgment at all.
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But then I also think there's a lot of people, especially people come from different cultures,
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that think of sex as something a little more formal, a little more love-driven, a little
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And, like, maybe it means some sort of commitment.
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So, in China, the unfortunate thing is if a girl has any kind of body count, then bye-bye.
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Why do they look at it that way, in your opinion?
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It's just, that's just how people think, right?
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Whereas if a guy, like, does whatever, then it's just whatever.
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Wait, so they don't have the same standard for men in China?
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It's like, oh, if you're a dude and you don't smoke, then you're a weak man.
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But if you're a woman and you smoke, oh, you better hide that, right?
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Let's just go around the table really quick on this one.
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I get that it can be a preference for some people, and I totally respect that.
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And for the people that I date, it's never even come up in conversation.
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It's not a preference because that just, like, doesn't really fall in line with, like, something that matters to me.
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Um, I would say it's, like, I'm a little bit of both.
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So, I think it depends on what kind of society you want to build, right?
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So, like, one of the problems I see in the world right now are all the broken families.
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There's a lot of kids that grow up without fathers.
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The divorce rate in California, last I saw, is, like, 55%.
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And the statistics on, like, divorce in comparison to body counts.
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If a girl, if someone is a virgin when they go into marriage, there's, like, a 5% to 10% chance that it's going to end in divorce.
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And I think it was if the body count is above 15, there's, like, a 50% chance that the couple is going to get divorced.
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But if this is the average of people's body counts and stuff, like, that's a big deal.
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50% of people getting divorced versus 5 to 10, like, that's a huge deal.
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Well, what about after they're already married for, like, 5, 6, 7, 8 years and they've got to kind of spice things up?
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They've got to kind of spice things up in the bedroom, you know what I'm saying?
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Like, this is why a lot of relationships break is because they get into it too quick.
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And then they, you know, put all their eggs in one basket and they haven't really got a chance to really experience themselves sexually
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Two, three years, four years down the road, you start having urges for this type of broad or that type of broad.
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And that's why marriages nowadays don't really last because people have this big fantasy in their mind about what they eventually want to achieve.
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And when they finally so-called achieve it, a couple years into it, they're like, they figure out they want to go this way or want to go that way
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or maybe not sexually, you know, another dude or another girl on girl.
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But, I mean, they might be into something their partner's not.
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And they find that out three, four years down the road.
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And then now you have, you know, cheating and, you know, pent-up feelings and texting somebody else.
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And so, I mean, you kind of really want to figure yourself out first before you kind of commit to something that heavy to where that's like there's a drawbridge.
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Like, what I can't remember, one of you was saying, talking about, I think it was you, Ashley.
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You were talking about how, like, being with different men has helped you understand what it is that you want.
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Like, for me, like, the type of woman I want now is so different from who I wanted when I was, like, 20.
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And if I had gotten married to a girl when I was 20 years old, like, it probably would have been the wrong one.
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And we probably would have ended up getting divorced.
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Like, there's totally merit to what you're saying, 100%.
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I think it comes down to, like, people being clear on who they are.
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You know, like, who you are at 18 isn't the same person that you're going to be at 26.
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And, I don't know, like, yeah, people end up in bad relationships and bad marriages.
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I think it's, you'd have to be, like, super clear on, like, the values that you have.
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And, like, if you were going to marry somebody, you'd have to be like, hey, like, where are you seeing yourself, like, 25 years from now?
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If you're just, like, based on a relationship off of just, like, lust or something kind of superficial, then it's like, you know, you're bound to have, like, want to mess around or do whatever.
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Or it's got to be, like, a way long marathon, you know, I mean, lifelong marathon, ideally, yeah.
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I think one of the reasons a lot of people get divorced is because they get into relationships based on lust.
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Like, at my gym, like, I've talked to, like, four old dudes, all of them divorced.
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And, basically, all of them got divorced once they lost their sexual attraction to their partner and they realized there wasn't anything there.
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You know, like, it was, the whole relationship was founded on sex from the get-go.
00:35:11.960
And then once they got in their 40s and they weren't attracted to each other in the same way anymore, they were like, oh, there's nothing here.
00:35:18.840
You know, you can't base a relationship on lust, in my opinion, like, a long-term.
00:35:21.800
I'm going to just, I'm just going to bring it back to the whole body count discussion.
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I don't think I gave my take quite on it, so I'll give my take.
00:35:37.920
I do think men and women view it a bit differently.
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I think men do care more about a woman's body count than do women.
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And there's biological and evolutionary reasons for that, one of which, a woman who is promiscuous, you cannot guarantee paternity.
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So, if a woman gets pregnant, she knows for sure that's the kid.
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But the father, there can be some uncertainty there.
00:36:00.620
So, even though now today we have paternity tests, it doesn't undo hundreds of thousands of years of evolutionary hardwiring that men have to find promiscuity in women, unappealing, unattractive.
00:36:18.080
Someone who's more promiscuous is more likely to have an STD.
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I know you mentioned that, oh, you can get tested before you have a new partner.
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How many of people out there are getting tested in each and every instance that they're with a new partner?
00:36:35.000
People are hooking up after the bars and clubs and parties.
00:36:42.780
So, but a lot of you said, what I want to go around on this is, if you're comfortable sharing, if a body count doesn't matter, what's your body count?
00:37:39.220
It's definitely under 20, but I've never counted.
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I truly don't know because it's not something that I think about when I hook up with somebody
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I need to add this to a list and I need to count it.
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I have a lot going on, like, professionally and educationally.
00:38:06.660
Like, that's not something I'm like, oh, my God.
00:38:10.880
Like, it's not like I need to keep a count of it and it's not ever honestly anything that
00:38:21.480
It's not like I'm hooking up with just whoever I see on the street, but it's just like if I
00:38:24.940
want to hook up with somebody and we have a connection, I'll do it.
00:38:27.300
If I see somebody and I get to know them and I like them, I'm going to hook up with them.
00:38:34.800
Maybe not an exact number, but do you have a sense of the range?
00:38:37.980
It's probably, like, 30, 40, probably the same age as Alex, I assume.
00:38:59.340
And it's, like, something that we bond over, like, it's fun to talk about with her.
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Were there any instances where there was a shared encounter?
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I don't feel comfortable sharing that personal information, to be quite honest.
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Also, if my mom happens to see this, I just really don't want her to know out of respect for her.
00:39:49.120
But it's, you know, I feel like for me, I've reigned back quite a bit.
00:39:54.280
I do somewhat resonate with you a little bit because I noticed that when I would kind
00:40:00.180
of just casually start sleeping with people really quickly, the relationships were like, I didn't
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So I've started to rain back on how quickly I start to do that.
00:40:36.140
Honestly, I have some pretty important people watching this.
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And as a man of God, you know, I don't kiss and tell.
00:41:11.180
Yo, can I make a comment on one of the comments I saw?
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Why don't you stay live and just catch any super chats coming in, Chris?
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These girls never had the makings of a varsity athlete.
00:41:36.060
From Junior Soprano, head mob boss of the Soprano crime family in New Jersey.
00:41:49.680
The American Network Against Labia placed a hashtag all labia matter.
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He's going to talk shit about everyone on the panel.
00:42:20.780
Brian, where do you pull this wannabe gangster?
00:42:35.000
Actually, Mr. Davis, I mean, we see you come in every week and you drop your $5 and your $10
00:42:40.360
just to be relevant in the minds of people that will probably never see you.
00:42:46.440
If you want to know a wannabe and you want to exchange paperwork on who's real and who's
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Just pull up and have that same style in your comment and we'll go from there.
00:43:26.140
This gangster guy is making up his type as he goes along his actual type.
00:43:30.340
I'm just flattered that you dedicated $10 to talk shit to someone you never met, bro.
00:43:42.380
And I think if you're throwing away money to provide nothing constructive, you definitely
00:43:47.720
But you support my boy and his channel, so keep having that no life and keep supporting
00:44:06.640
So this Christian dude sounds like a total tool regurgitating old school nonsense, acting
00:44:17.440
Mike Davis, you're a little spicier tonight than usual.
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Like, if people, like, care about any of that to me, like, that's just not the type of person
00:45:04.180
The type of people I date, like, that just isn't important to them.
00:45:08.620
And it's not like I'm out here fucking everybody.
00:45:14.460
I'm open with what I'm going to continue to be.
00:45:17.160
And, like, if that doesn't align with your values, like, that's good.
00:45:19.520
Because I want somebody who's going to align with my values.
00:45:41.020
I guess I'm kind of always going through them sometimes.
00:45:53.240
Yeah, I mean, when guys hook up with a lot of people, it's attractive, you know?
00:45:57.660
When girls hook up with just people that they like or who they want to hook up with, it's seen as bad.
00:46:09.900
That's why I just don't see it when girls hook up with, like, whoever they want to.
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Like, I see guys hooking up with who they want.
00:46:19.620
Like, I think that we should all be empowered in who we want to be.
00:46:22.580
If you want to hook up with nobody, if you want to hook up with less people, that's great.
00:46:25.940
Like, if you want to hook up with who you want to hook up with and know your standards
00:46:28.300
and find out who you want to be sexually, then, like, that's what I want you to do.
00:46:37.180
Because this is the mentality that's destroying the West.
00:46:40.040
Am I the only one who thinks thought refers to a hot chick versus a hoe?
00:46:45.800
Because I was like, oh, I didn't realize this counts as a thought.
00:46:50.100
But, uh, Oskia Musa, thank you very much for the, uh, big $20 super chat.
00:47:02.840
That's my black baby the blue-haired girl is holding.
00:47:08.060
Uh, yeah, that's, uh, fetal alcohol syndrome is going on there.
00:47:13.420
Okay, Noah Bullspit with the $5 super chat, also a member, by the way.
00:47:18.660
Would dating a religious person be off the table for the non-religious people and vice versa?
00:47:24.540
Um, let's really quick just go around yes or no answer, um, on this one.
00:47:39.820
Um, I think that I don't really, like, I haven't had,
00:47:42.720
really meaningful connections with people that are, like, super religious,
00:47:46.440
but I don't think that it would be off the table for me at all.
00:48:06.720
Yeah, I'm a Christian, so it'd be off the table, for sure.
00:48:10.460
I mean, you already know, like, it's off the table.
00:48:14.840
Um, I'm not, I'm not particularly religious, so.
00:48:29.980
I wouldn't not date a woman who is, like, Christian or Catholic or whatever,
00:48:38.780
I know some, like, Christian women or Catholic women,
00:48:43.880
they're waiting, they're, they're waiting till marriage.
00:48:47.920
Um, so then that, that would just be a deal breaker.
00:48:50.300
Not, not that I think that there's anything wrong and it's more power to them,
00:48:53.620
but just for me, I don't want to wait until marriage.
00:48:59.720
You want to test drive the vehicle before you buy it?
00:49:12.240
Uh, well, thank you everyone for the super chats there.
00:49:15.900
Um, so I'm going to bring it back to preferences here.
00:49:21.420
Thank you for the, uh, we'll do it really quick.
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Is that one of your, um, ex-girlfriends or what?
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um, were there, on this side of the table for the ladies,
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were there any preferences that you heard from this side of the table,
00:49:54.100
from the men, that you object to or you take quarrel with?
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hey, I don't want to date a girl who's, who has a high body count?
00:50:12.520
I would want to know the reasons for him saying that,
00:50:15.560
because if he's like, oh, if she sleeps with a lot of people,
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then that's just, like, bad, I'll be like, okay,
00:50:21.080
well, this person can't think critically, so, no.
00:50:25.140
They can't think critically about things, right?
00:50:29.360
Oh, because they're just like, oh, she's slept with a lot of people,
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or he slept with a lot of people, therefore, this is a bad person.
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And I'm like, well, you can't really think properly, then no go.
00:50:39.280
Well, I'm not sure if they're, that's what they're suggesting.
00:50:41.920
I'm not sure if they're suggesting that they're a bad person.
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And also, I do take offense earlier when you said promiscuous.
00:50:53.180
Instead of high body count, I don't think those are the same thing.
00:50:58.000
How, what, what, what do you consider to be the.
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and I don't think high body count is necessarily a negative thing.
00:51:08.840
Promiscuous is like, like, people who cheat, right?
00:51:11.280
Yeah, it's like people who cheat, people who, like.
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Promiscuity means, like, you're not being loyal to whatever it is that you're supposed to do.
00:51:28.360
They're defining the word with the word promiscuity,
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Okay, having or characterized by many, many transient sexual relationships.
00:51:49.780
I mean, that's basically having a high body count.
00:51:53.040
That's not the same as having a high body count.
00:51:56.780
Look at the second, look at the second definition though.
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Demonstrating or implying an indiscriminating or unselective approach, indiscriminate or casual.
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Because you can be promiscuous and not just a sexual part.
00:52:07.960
You can be promiscuous, like, let's say, if you're a lawyer, right?
00:52:10.860
You can be promiscuous in the ways that you practice, right?
00:52:20.740
Wait, you could be promiscuous how beyond sexuality?
00:52:23.260
Like, people could be promiscuous in sexuality, but you can also be promiscuous in, like, other decisions.
00:52:28.200
It doesn't necessarily have to constantly always go towards sexuality.
00:52:30.620
I think the definition says, like, just a sexual thing.
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Is there anything on this side of the table that you take quarrel with in terms of the men's stated preferences?
00:53:06.720
I don't take, like, offense to him wanting a low body count.
00:53:10.680
That's just, like, the people that I talk to or I date.
00:53:14.600
Like, that's just something that wouldn't be a preference for me.
00:53:18.800
That's a preference that, like, somebody I'm talking to has.
00:53:21.640
I just, like, probably wouldn't talk to them or date them.
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Like, I think that's totally fine to have completely different preferences.
00:53:36.160
I think that that's great that you know what you want.
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And I think it's great that I know what I want.
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I think that makes us more developed individuals.
00:53:40.900
And it makes us kind of, like, smarter, honestly, and, like, going towards what we want.
00:53:48.360
While I'm at it, I just need to do these super chats.
00:54:31.960
Well, I don't know who that's aimed at, but be nice to Kiki, Askiya.
00:54:39.240
She's, you know, she's, she's, she's so good looking, dude.
00:54:47.800
While we're here, M1 Garand asks, would any of the girls date a guy who legally owned a firearm?
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The best shooters in the world, the best female shooters in the world are all Chinese, by the way.
00:55:48.680
Um, so the, uh, the question was, we'll just go around the panel really quick.
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Would any of the girls date a guy who legally owned a firearm?
00:56:13.020
I accidentally have dated a couple guys with guns, you know?
00:56:20.460
So if the guy had a firearm for self-defense, legally owned, you would, that's a deal breaker
00:56:27.660
I mean, I, it's been a conversation that I've had and I've been like, Hey, I just kind of
00:56:32.820
You wouldn't feel protected if the guy had a firearm?
00:56:38.260
So it's like, I don't really want them to have a firearm.
00:56:44.600
Uh, you said you don't want a guy to have a firearm?
00:56:57.540
I understand why you might think that, but we have a specialist here at the table.
00:57:02.700
I mean, I, yeah, I, um, I own a firearms training company.
00:57:06.240
So, um, you know, for me, I, I train people with guns.
00:57:09.220
Like there's a lot of people that, um, own guns that need training.
00:57:12.260
Um, there's a lot of people that unfortunately don't go out and get it.
00:57:14.640
So that's why I opened it up in Santa Barbara County.
00:57:16.440
So people get like a safe, um, you know, safe place.
00:57:20.480
I just want to say to you, he's one of the most sober minded individuals I've ever met.
00:57:24.400
No, I'm not saying that like people with guns, like I'm just saying that the guys that I personally date.
00:57:29.200
Like, like I'm not saying guys with guns are crazy.
00:57:31.280
Like I'm saying the guys that I'm personally like involved with usually turn out to be pretty crazy.
00:57:44.060
So why is it that you're attracted to crazy men?
00:57:54.540
Are you, are you, do you also consider yourself a bit crazy?
00:57:59.880
I, I honestly, like I obviously can have, I can have some emotions I can pop off, but
00:58:05.180
like, I don't really consider myself that crazy.
00:58:08.260
I consider myself like the one kind of like calming everything down and keeping everything
00:58:13.280
So I feel like I kind of have like a need to, you know, obviously like this is just super,
00:58:19.040
I don't know how to say it, but you know, girls always want to like fix guys.
00:58:22.780
Um, I don't want to be like that, but unfortunately, like, unfortunately, like I do like kind of
00:58:30.680
I tend to like, you like the bad, crazy boys and you want to fix them.
00:58:38.820
Do you think the dudes you've dated would describe you as a sane woman or like a crazier
00:58:55.500
She's a Sagittarius, half Scorpio, half Sagittarius.
00:59:03.960
Now, like, honestly, I'm going to be honest with you.
00:59:06.040
Like every relationship that I've left in the past, like four or five years has been
00:59:09.400
like, they've been begging for me on their hands and knees back.
00:59:15.220
They're, I'm usually the one that makes their life up.
00:59:18.020
I'm usually the one that like does fix some part of their life and make them a little
00:59:22.940
bit better than they were and then leave the relationship.
00:59:58.020
I want to go home and I don't want a girl quarreling and arguing and all this shit.
01:00:04.820
I want a girl to just go home and to be chill and everything's good.
01:00:10.400
I think what I was thinking is I like intense, but I don't like crazy.
01:00:18.100
I want a boring woman who's quiet and shy and that's what I want.
01:00:31.600
And for most girls nowadays to be a little different.
01:00:42.660
I feel like people confuse, though, for women, for me, how I feel about this, is that I feel
01:00:47.760
like people like to confuse femininity sometimes where we get stressed out and we get hormonal
01:00:53.460
and we'll cry sometimes randomly and they're like, oh, she's crazy.
01:00:56.260
It's like, no, that's just me being a woman sometimes and that's just how it is.
01:01:03.780
I don't want to emotionally manipulate somebody and I don't want to ever, you know, wrong
01:01:08.660
someone to the point where it's like I burn a bunch of bridges.
01:01:12.260
You know, I don't want to ever do that to anyone.
01:01:15.380
So when people say they're like crazy, I'm like, do you really want to do that?
01:01:19.060
Because like either way, you're mentally both going to mess each other up and like
01:01:24.900
And also your therapy session is going to be really expensive.
01:01:36.080
Let's do a couple of super chats here really quick because we had a couple to come in.
01:01:44.320
What would you choose if you could remain an age forever?
01:01:46.800
I'm not entirely sure how that's related to dating, but 18.
01:02:06.720
I think men usually peak around like late 30s, like early 40s.
01:02:19.700
You might have gotten lost at the, I think the transhumanist stream is, I don't even know.
01:02:32.960
Yeah, the $10 super chat underneath where it says high.
01:02:40.800
Wannabe Gangster talks about $5 to $10 like it's a bag since that's a high end.
01:02:47.220
By the way, Brandon, if these are deeply offending you, I don't have to read them.
01:02:55.600
This guy's got time to send money to talk shit.
01:02:59.520
Mike Davis, your mama, your sister, and your daughter.
01:03:22.800
All the places he's like, you know what's a good place to fight?
01:03:32.760
Yo, Mike Davis, let's get you on the show sometime.
01:03:37.920
Let's debate rebel on the show maybe one of these days if he's up for it.
01:03:48.820
I mean, but I don't want any violence in the studio.
01:03:59.300
But Mike Davis, if you're ever down to come to Santa Barbara, we'll get you on the show
01:04:17.740
And you'll end up chasing that more and more rest of your life.
01:04:35.980
I know probably divorce law is not your area of expertise.
01:04:42.280
But I'm sure you are familiar with that the divorce rate is terrible.
01:04:54.880
But I do obviously realize attorneys have various different specialties.
01:04:58.400
But, I mean, maybe you glanced over in law school some family law.
01:05:22.280
It's just such a different world in terms of dating and growing up and your life experiences and your family.
01:05:28.220
So, in China, divorce is still kind of not okay.
01:05:37.940
Do you know if in China it's men or women that initiate the divorce first?
01:05:41.940
No, here in the U.S. it's definitely women that initiate the divorce first.
01:05:52.140
They want to marry a younger woman, hotter women, whatever, feel young again.
01:06:02.140
I think it's worse in South Korea and Japan because once you get married, if your husband is making whatever income, then no job for you, girl.
01:06:13.460
Like, a lot of my friends who went to university with me from Korea and Japan, actually mostly Korea, they refuse to go back to Korea because they want to work.
01:06:23.940
They don't want to get married and then just instantly become like a trophy wife, right?
01:06:27.420
So, I think China is slightly becoming more and more liberal and then women feel like they could get divorced if it's really bad.
01:06:42.760
Well, it's changed a lot since I've been gone, I guess.
01:06:49.200
For anybody who didn't hear that, Brian's production assistant, Chris, just said that the divorce rate in China is 50%, which is surprising.
01:06:58.620
Chris, do you have the numbers on men versus women in a shading?
01:07:08.380
So, I left China 11 years ago, so I'm very outdated on the info.
01:07:12.320
But like I said, I feel like China now, like, women are having high-income jobs.
01:07:22.220
Police are, like, actually doing stuff to help those situations.
01:07:28.280
So, I don't know if 50%, 60% is just, like, where every country plateaus off.
01:07:34.460
Because I feel like that number is pretty standard across Western civilization.
01:07:39.080
But I bet if you look at India, it's pretty low.
01:07:54.780
You know, they estimate one-third of all Chinese foreign exchange students are actually working for the CCP.
01:08:09.420
It was, like, from the State Department or, I don't know, somebody official made the claim that one-third.
01:08:18.740
Yeah, I was living in Hawaii last year of law school.
01:08:21.660
I guess it's kind of suspicious why this Chinese chick who doesn't have a Chinese accent is living in Hawaii.
01:08:28.020
Were you, like, going around the naval bases and just kind of taking photographs?
01:08:36.360
So, they asked him, do you come into frequent contact with a foreign national?
01:08:43.080
And they were like, well, you must cut off all contact with her unless we investigate her and make sure that she's good.
01:08:51.800
So, then he started joking that I was his Chinese spy.
01:09:11.820
And so, you were a suspect in an investigation.
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Write down every single roommate you've ever had.
01:09:32.920
And so, I had to fill out a form and it was a long form and then his clearance got revoked for a long time.
01:09:54.180
Wait, so how did you prove your innocence that you weren't a CCP spy?
01:10:15.140
But, then I was like, oh, this is really annoying.
01:10:20.740
Like, before you get top secret clearance, they call up like your family, your exes, like your high school teacher.
01:10:27.200
And, they're like, does this person love, love America?
01:10:34.180
I kind of didn't mean to derail the whole conversation with that.
01:10:46.660
So, I'm pretty sure, like, do you guys think that, this is totally unrelated to dating.
01:10:50.980
Do you guys think that China is going to overtake the U.S.?
01:10:57.100
I think they're doing what's called a 100-year marathon.
01:11:02.460
I think their goal is to overtake the U.S. by the year 2049.
01:11:06.040
I think it's highly likely that they're working to subvert American society and kind of pit demographics against one another to make us,
01:11:12.920
basically fall apart from within so that they can defeat us without even firing a shot.
01:11:17.860
Well, I think the culture over there, in a lot of ways, is better than the culture that's currently going on in the U.S.
01:11:29.860
But things get done under a totalitarian government.
01:11:43.520
Dude, you're one of the agents subverting America.
01:11:57.940
Brian, I think after this show, you need to get some personal protection from Tanner's company over here.
01:12:08.800
It's like a security risk for the United States because, I mean, I think that.
01:12:14.580
But what I see China doing is, I mean, look how divided we are in the U.S.
01:12:22.760
They don't, China's a fairly homogenous country-ish, right?
01:12:29.460
You'd get like put in prison if you disagree with them.
01:12:31.300
Yeah, you literally, people literally get put in jail.
01:12:36.460
The freedoms that we have in America are fantastic.
01:12:38.500
But what I'm saying is, is that, I don't know what I'm saying.
01:12:45.380
If they have an end goal, they're able to go achieve that end goal.
01:12:51.360
I think democracy is amazing and every country should strive for it.
01:12:55.880
But I think depending on the current situation of a country, it might not be the best political system for every country.
01:13:04.780
All right, okay, we're going to get really political.
01:13:06.500
Dude, who needs democracy when you could have communist totalitarian dictatorships where you get thrown in jail for criticizing the government?
01:13:20.340
I'm just aware of the, in terms of the country that I think poses the biggest threat to the United States, it undoubtedly has to be China.
01:13:39.260
Is it really a country though or is it an ideology?
01:13:42.740
A country is independent and could be sovereign, but it's an ideology that cripples a people from the inside out, right?
01:13:48.820
So you can have totalitarianism going on in Russia.
01:13:53.380
You can have it going on in Cuba whenever it would happen.
01:14:01.480
We're going to move on because I'm just derailing.
01:14:07.280
Like, find local businesses that support Americans and make American made or providing jobs to Americans and support them.
01:14:12.980
You might be paying like $20, $30 more, but 100% worth it.
01:14:17.380
Also, Star0809 said, China wants the U.S. divided and weak.
01:14:22.180
And the person above him said, China is using TikTok to brainwash Americans.
01:14:27.820
This is how you beat a country without firing a single shot.
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By the way, I hope you didn't take offense to us going into that.
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It's a beautiful country full of beautiful people.
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We're going to go back to the topic of preferences.
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If her height doesn't start with four, she ain't the one.
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If her height doesn't start with four, she ain't the one.
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Specific, like, extremely specific preferences.
01:16:04.500
How do you have that conversation before having sex with them?
01:16:06.640
Do you just, like, have dinner and just have a glass of wine and be like,
01:16:09.740
so, I love what you do for work, great personality.
01:16:16.340
Well, so, just to answer your question first, none of these are deal breakers.
01:16:20.080
So, would I date a woman who's 5'4", 5'7", taller than me?
01:16:25.800
But, overall, I do have a preference for short, petite women.
01:16:29.280
Dude, there's no way you want women that are 4'11".
01:17:08.960
I don't know about dwarf, but they hate midget.
01:17:18.200
I don't feel like that's like the most accurate.
01:17:27.520
You'd prefer very short people rather than little people?
01:17:31.880
There's a differentiation between someone who's very short and someone who has dwarfism.
01:17:43.180
So, but you guys, you guys seem, you guys seem to have a reaction to the large labia thing.
01:17:51.740
It was just like, how do you, how do you bring that up?
01:17:54.020
Like, obviously you're joking about it right now, but like.
01:17:59.480
So you're like, you're on a, you're on a date with someone, right?
01:18:02.320
You're going over, you know, basic characteristics, what they do for work.
01:18:06.120
You make sure you have the same humor and shit like that.
01:18:07.880
And then you just slide that bitch in at the end.
01:18:14.940
And then at the same point, would you be accepting if they were like, so how big is your whoo?
01:18:49.300
I would never ask a girl like, hey, just wondering, you know, before we get frisky, do you have
01:19:03.800
Brian, Brian, do you mean like protruding, hanging type thing?
01:19:15.240
There are some terms which I find deeply offensive.
01:19:34.740
Now, I know, I don't want to be flippant about this.
01:19:38.940
But I do genuinely think it is a point of, for women who do have large labia, it is actually
01:19:48.560
But genuinely, it is unfortunate that some women are shamed if they do have a large labia.
01:20:00.700
If a girl doesn't, I'm still, I ain't going to say no, you know.
01:20:17.060
But if a girl started asking me about my penis size, I'm asking her about her labia.
01:20:27.340
She's going to find somebody else because I'm average.
01:20:33.840
If she wants, I mean, she's free to have her preference for that.
01:20:38.000
But, like, she's going to be disappointed if she's fucking with me.
01:21:23.000
Think of Kim Kardashian, like, three years ago.
01:21:26.160
I mean, similar to my previous statement, I think it is an unfortunate state of affairs
01:21:31.260
that, you know, that people are feeling the need to adhere to this very superficial beauty standard
01:21:40.060
and they're undergoing dangerous surgery and they're spending tens of thousands of dollars
01:22:03.260
Well, I think Kim K is stunning, but there are other women with plastic surgery.
01:22:09.660
Does a girl look good that you don't know that it's plastic surgery?
01:22:12.380
However, I think she was cuter before she had plastic surgery.
01:22:19.680
And then now she still looks great, but not as cute as before.
01:22:26.680
The trick is, if you're going to get it done, it can't look like you got it done.
01:22:32.200
You want to keep it subtle, but a lot of girls, I will promise you, a lot of girls have it
01:22:40.180
If you're going to get it done, that's what you got to do.
01:22:43.640
The second you get that plastic look, it's like...
01:22:50.440
Any time you have plastic in your body, no way that's healthy.
01:22:55.560
It doesn't look like it's not actual plastic, but it doesn't look like it takes care of
01:23:00.080
A lot of chicks who get breast implants end up having serious health issues as a result
01:23:43.140
Also, a preference of mine, no makeup or very minimal makeup, maybe some mascara or eyeliner.
01:23:59.180
Well, you just like the natural girl aesthetic.
01:24:08.040
Basically, he wants to date someone really gorgeous naturally.
01:24:14.840
I want a four foot 11 woman with no plastic surgery who doesn't wear makeup, who's got
01:24:32.760
Most of you seem to kind of agree that you like the more natural aesthetic, which is totally
01:24:39.420
Like whatever someone wants to do with their body, it's what they want to do with their
01:24:42.520
But do you feel like the way men look at bodies now and they see really plastic stuff and
01:24:50.180
they think that that's what real life looks like now has misconstrued a lot of it?
01:24:56.100
Like I don't necessarily want to get work done, but sometimes I think I consider it
01:24:59.580
because I do want to sometimes fit the mainstream narrative a little bit.
01:25:03.940
I'm not, I'm not, I don't think I'll ever really, really will because I want to, I want
01:25:08.680
to look how I look and I just kind of want to go with it.
01:25:11.920
And I feel like if you like me, you like me, you don't, you don't.
01:25:17.140
But I feel like, do you personally feel that the mainstream narrative is really misconstrued
01:25:23.600
and kind of looked at what you consider natural beauty is not that pretty anymore?
01:25:28.200
Like, do you feel like it's not as, you know, it's, it's not as popular anymore and it's
01:25:37.060
So when I see a woman that's very natural and she might not be, you know, God given the
01:25:43.980
most attractive female, but she carries herself with so much confidence and it's very obvious
01:25:50.080
that she doesn't really care about who's judging her or who's, you know, whatnot.
01:25:54.420
That is 10 times more sexy than a girl that can't stay out of the mirror, too much makeup,
01:26:00.980
constantly like, you know, worried about how, I mean, it's, it's just, it's too, she's
01:26:05.060
too much into herself, she's not figured out how she is, how she wants to feel.
01:26:09.720
So for a dude to get in a relationship with someone like that, it's going to be a lot
01:26:14.700
of self-centered dialogue going on as opposed to someone who's just like, hey, this is how
01:26:30.700
Should I, all that kind of stuff right there is, is take it back to the drawing board.
01:26:38.280
Yeah, I'd say, I mean, if you look at somebody that just like tons of plastic in them and
01:26:41.500
whatnot, and especially like looking at their lifestyle too, you know, like if she's out
01:26:45.120
and just like, you know, you're like, what do you do for fun?
01:26:47.880
And like, all they do is like go out with their friends and like drink seltzers and like
01:26:50.360
their, you know, their hobby is like wine or something.
01:26:54.780
Or, you know, somebody that like eats bad food, stuff like that.
01:26:57.360
I mean, I find that if somebody, you know, doesn't really wear makeup, but they have like a
01:27:00.560
healthy lifestyle, they eat healthy, like take care of themselves, like respect themselves.
01:27:03.900
That to me is like way more attractive than somebody that would put like $100,000 into
01:27:13.240
Um, so I, I, I placed like a very high premium on like health, right?
01:27:19.980
Like when I was growing up, my mom, she suffered from Lyme disease.
01:27:22.480
She was very unhealthy and like it, it wore down on her.
01:27:26.000
And one of the things that I want in a wife is someone who's very healthy.
01:27:30.020
And I think what plastic surgery does, I think plastic surgery almost like mimics what good
01:27:37.720
Like if a chick's getting like a Brazilian butt lift, like it's, it's mimicking like
01:27:43.360
If a woman gets huge fake tits, like that's mimicking fertility in a woman.
01:27:48.380
And like, I personally, I see it and I'm instantly like, uh, but like what I think is like most
01:27:55.860
attractive is when a woman like gets on top of her nutrition, she gets on top of like learning
01:28:00.260
how to take care of her hormones and how to take care of herself because women tend to,
01:28:04.660
they tend to fill out very naturally, like, like plastic surgery mimics what a really
01:28:12.260
And obviously when they've got like double Ds, like that's not, that's not going to happen
01:28:15.780
for every woman, but like plastic surgery, like if, if, if a woman's like manipulating
01:28:19.820
her hips or her waist or her butt or anything like that, like women can achieve that to some
01:28:27.200
And that's like a million times more attractive in my opinion.
01:28:36.640
Like seeing people that have like that outward overly done plastic surgery, like can be a
01:28:41.800
turnoff for you, but there's a lot of women who are just built like absolute refrigerators
01:28:45.480
who get like, like I'm telling you, like they are like there is, and they get, they get some
01:28:52.920
Like I have a lot of friends have gotten like very small little things done and you would
01:28:58.640
So it's like, you can't say like plastic surgery is outward to turn off.
01:29:03.100
It's like when it's overly done and it's outward.
01:29:06.560
Cause I promise you, you see these women, you have no idea.
01:29:13.100
I mean, if that's what they want to do and they want to do like the overdone look,
01:29:17.060
But you're saying your preference is a less overdone look, which is, yeah.
01:29:21.000
And, but some people do get work done to achieve and not overdone.
01:29:26.320
They'll be straight, but like this, and you can just get a little bit of that, a little
01:29:30.740
What I, what I wish was happening is like more women were learning how to exercise and take
01:29:35.820
If you're built like a fridge, I promise you, you're not going to achieve it that way.
01:29:39.780
I know girls who were quote unquote built like fridges.
01:29:42.540
And then they started, they started eating right and they started exercising in the gym
01:29:49.580
and like they, they achieved like a curvy waist and like achieved a nice butt and stuff.
01:29:54.480
Like there's a lot that like any woman could do that's within a reach.
01:30:04.300
But I, I'm naturally like given the shape that I want, like luckily, but there's a lot
01:30:10.080
I feel like we should have the hashtag built like a fridge.
01:30:16.020
If any of the commenters in the chat want to change their username and icon to a fridge
01:30:24.820
But yeah, don't, I mean, my take on that is, I mean, don't do it.
01:30:39.080
As long as she's 4'11 and has a large labia, I'm down for it.
01:31:11.040
So yeah, we're going to, oh, I didn't do my non-physical trait preferences.
01:31:50.880
I think I said something that was bad, but I didn't know it was bad.
01:32:06.180
Doesn't go to bars or clubs or stops if we get into a relationship.
01:32:17.000
I don't want someone who's quarrelsome and just, I want someone who has a calm, gentle disposition.
01:32:40.100
I asked what her body count was for people wondering why he said that to me.
01:32:46.420
This could kind of be a bit of a, uh, this could be a fun one.
01:32:50.480
So, oh man, I don't, I thought I had it written down, but, um, okay.
01:32:57.540
So on the topic of Kiki, which she is, she's a sex doll.
01:33:18.440
I'll do super chats really quick and then I'll dive into the question.
01:33:23.320
We got some super, we got some super chats here.
01:33:32.680
I think that's the, I think that's the currency.
01:33:37.780
If you want me to keep watching the show every week or all men with a host girl
01:34:05.880
So, wait, I think you need to specify for everybody, like, what version of 18?
01:34:09.880
Like, do you mean, like, she just graduated high school 18 or, like,
01:34:24.440
So, I mean, but I mean, most of the women I'm dating are around my age, so.
01:34:39.700
What's the most, the most thing you're insecure about?
01:34:45.220
Um, really quick, we'll just go around the panel.
01:34:53.220
And then I'm like, oh, I shouldn't have said that.
01:34:56.100
So, you're insecure about just talking too much.
01:35:25.340
Um, yeah, I think something that comes to my mind most when I'm thinking about, like,
01:35:30.440
relationships and what they think of me is that, like, I am pretty, um, pretty, like,
01:35:37.340
straightforward and I'm pretty, I'm, like, working all the time and I'm pretty, like, committed
01:35:43.400
So, I'm like, oh, that might be something that could be a turnoff, the fact that I'm,
01:35:47.400
like, so blunt and so, like, committed to my work.
01:35:49.900
But I wouldn't say I'm, like, too, like, insecure about it.
01:36:02.260
I purposely, yeah, I, yeah, but my forehead, for sure.
01:36:11.520
So, like, I have a ginormous widow peak and it also fucking recedes slightly.
01:36:19.500
Okay, don't do the girl thing right now and be like, it looks great.
01:36:29.580
I was going to say, I don't think I would have noticed.
01:36:33.440
I don't think, being honest, I don't think I would have noticed.
01:36:37.920
You know what you could do, and I actually think women should bring this back, is the
01:36:47.680
The emo swoop, kind of like Kiki has the emo swoop.
01:37:01.180
Something you're insecure about, if you want to answer.
01:37:06.720
Either the dimples on my lower back or my crooked smile.
01:37:14.260
Brandon, the dimples on your lower back are from the street fights.
01:37:23.240
Brandon, how many street fights have you been in?
01:37:34.120
You look like a dude who's fucked some dudes up in your time.
01:37:49.440
Yeah, Mike Davis, I feel like you have a crush on Brandon, dude.
01:37:55.740
If I'm sitting here amongst the Mesa, he's not, bro.
01:38:03.960
Anyways, Tanner, if you want to just answer that.
01:38:07.640
You know, I'll just sit there and be scrolling through Instagram and be like, well, fuck it,
01:38:21.640
Just really quick, something you're insecure about.
01:38:25.760
Yeah, I have an autoimmune illness called Lyme disease.
01:38:28.520
It could, like, completely destroy me at any point until I cure myself of it.
01:38:35.780
So, that's a pretty big insecurity that I have as far as relationships and just life goes.
01:38:56.480
Yo, Jane, Carlos says he loves the forehead, by the way.
01:39:05.680
Do the guys care if wife-girlfriend hangs out with male best friend?
01:39:10.540
Do the guys care if wife-girlfriend hangs out with male best friend?
01:39:17.000
Do you care if your girl that you're seeing is hanging out with guy friends?
01:39:25.780
If she has her guy friends, there's an outlet for that.
01:39:29.280
You know, some girls like to have guy friends they can soundboard they're flirting with
01:39:32.840
or different types of just dialogue, and that's great that she can't really get with her man.
01:39:38.840
And I have no problem with that as long as, you know, everything's open and honest
01:39:42.820
and everything's respectful and there's no lying going on or deception.
01:39:50.400
Before you leave, we'll just have to say goodbye to you here real quick.
01:39:55.020
Yeah, we have, unfortunately, it's Isabella, right?
01:39:58.380
So, unfortunately, Isabella has to take off, but thank you so much for joining us.
01:40:07.140
And, yeah, let's have you back on another show.
01:40:16.960
So, Brian, did you see California Dreamin's comment?
01:40:28.080
I personally don't really think that, like, men and women can, like, just be completely just,
01:40:32.420
I think there's always kind of something, like, underlying to it for the most part.
01:40:37.120
I think that they would both have to be, you know, really high standards and pretty
01:40:42.620
much have to be something reciprocal that each one of them would be getting that would
01:40:45.940
not be, like, you know, sex flirtatiousness or whatnot.
01:40:49.980
I think it really would have to, I don't know, maybe a relationship that goes, like, really
01:40:57.040
So you don't think that a woman could have a male best friend?
01:41:01.080
Personally, like, no, I think it's a little bit weird, personally.
01:41:07.860
I actually agree with the guys on this one because I cannot stand, for me, when a guy
01:41:14.080
has a female best friend, it, like, irritates the shit out of me.
01:41:17.660
Because for me, I feel like when I'm in a very close, loving relationship with someone,
01:41:22.240
there should be no reason why you need to go to another person to have an emotional need
01:41:29.160
Like, if it's, like, a male thing and it's, like, I can't really relate to you on that
01:41:33.200
and you've got to go to your buddy or your dad or your mom, like, totally makes sense.
01:41:36.460
But on, like, a more relationship, lovey-dovey part, I'm like, why are you going to them?
01:41:44.060
I feel like you don't, you won't really need, like, a female, like, perspective for something
01:41:47.920
Like, I wouldn't go to, like, a female friend and be like, oh, like, what's going on with
01:41:51.760
And I just, I don't think really that that's appropriate.
01:41:54.220
Like, if I really need to talk to somebody or something like that, like, I'll talk to
01:41:56.360
a good friend like Chase or something like that.
01:41:58.520
Like, if there's something where, like, I need to address this with, like, the woman that
01:42:01.140
I'm with, I'm just going to talk to the woman that I'm with about that.
01:42:03.760
I don't feel like I need to, like, reach out to another woman to, like, hey, like, what's
01:42:07.160
But you don't have any, like, friends that just developed into, like, best friends that were
01:42:13.400
But I wouldn't, you know, like, call them up to, like, hang out and have a beer or something.
01:42:17.100
No, I always, I always in my life, ever since I was, like, very little, I've had, like, a
01:42:22.220
And at every point in my life, I always have at least one or two guy best friends.
01:42:32.820
Like, girls that I've dated, they've had guy best friends for a long time.
01:42:35.660
And, like, I'll admit for me, like, there's definitely been some insecurity there.
01:42:40.100
Because, kind of like what Tanner's talking about, like, part of me is, like, yo, why
01:42:43.400
do you need to go to this other guy for emotional intimacy when you can come to me?
01:42:48.900
Like, we've just been friends for so long, we've just developed into best friends.
01:42:56.340
The question I have is how many of those dudes would bang you if given the chance?
01:43:00.340
Like, most guy best friends, I think, would totally smash the girl if they weren't
01:43:11.920
Do any of you have a guy friend, guy best friend?
01:43:20.600
Can you text them right now and say, W-Y-D, what you doing?
01:43:51.540
Jane, can we actually have you move back real quick?
01:43:55.240
Just momentarily, we have to do a quick reaction.
01:44:00.160
Jane, can we just have you move back over there and we'll have her come back?
01:44:08.140
So, what is the most succinct thing that you could say that would have the highest chance
01:44:22.100
Something like, hey, if it's too obvious, like, you'll give it away.
01:44:31.100
They said that, like, you can't have a guy best friend because he just wants to fuck.
01:44:36.940
We said most guy best friends probably want to smash.
01:44:39.460
So, I'm going to text my guy best friend and I'm going to let them pick the message and
01:44:48.080
I wanted, but she has to leave, so we need to get this video going, but I want Tanner.
01:45:03.240
Audience, you guys, what do you think she should ask her guy best friend so that it doesn't give
01:45:08.360
it away and they think that she's actually genuine?
01:46:01.560
You know what's so attractive about younger women?
01:46:04.140
Because a lot of these dudes talk about fertility and looks and stuff.
01:46:12.360
You meet a woman, you get married, you get together, whatever.
01:46:14.140
In the modern world, if I meet a girl who's 33 and single,
01:46:17.320
I know the amount of dick that's been through her before me is just simply unattractive.
01:46:21.520
I don't care how nice you are, but you're 33 years old.
01:46:25.580
If I get a 19-year-old girl, I might be her second or third man, right?
01:46:30.500
And all the trauma and heartbreak and bullshit they put you through,
01:46:40.300
So, if you pick up older women, you have to accept they've been on the carousel longer.
01:46:48.100
And when I see a beautiful young woman, I know that she has a very low body count.
01:46:53.700
Women's mentality is absolutely connected to sex.
01:46:57.420
If a woman sleeps with a bunch of men, it's harder to penetrate her mind and make her fall in love with you.
01:47:03.120
But if she's had 30 dudes inside of her, is she really going to think, you know what, this guy's so, so, so special?
01:47:08.480
Or is she going to think, you know what, he talked to me real quick, let's go get a new guy?
01:47:10.620
Whereas if a woman's only been with a few guys, she's much more likely to fall in love with you and be a better partner.
01:47:14.000
So, the likelihood of her falling completely in love with you and staying loyal to you and really believing you're the only man for her,
01:47:19.780
after being through so much trauma and so many men and sleeping with so many dudes and having her heart broken and having those memories of her ex
01:47:25.480
and all that crap she's been through is far less likely than meeting a nice, young, beautiful girl who hasn't been with many men.
01:47:30.680
And she goes, you know what, this is the guy, I like him.
01:47:32.980
Every woman who knows this and every man who watches this can be honest.
01:47:35.180
Women fall in love with the person they lose their virginity to or the second or third guy.
01:47:39.340
Any woman who slept with 50 dudes, she doesn't even remember who most of them are.
01:47:42.620
If a woman slept with a bunch of men before you, she's less likely to stick it out through a difficult period in a relationship.
01:47:46.440
She's more likely to just say, you know what, new answers, new did.
01:47:51.240
If I meet a beautiful 30-year-old woman, I'm not saying I won't sleep with her.
01:48:01.140
So, we're just going to really quick just have you guys give your reaction to that.
01:48:10.740
But I don't give a fuck because that's not the type of man that I'm trying to go for.
01:48:15.260
And I would never, ever date someone like that.
01:48:27.580
Like, I just like, it disgusts me to hear his voice and the things that he says.
01:48:31.080
Like, he's almost like pedophilic in a way and everything.
01:48:36.420
But he is going for younger women because of that.
01:48:45.840
He has talked about like multiple occasions how he goes for like 18-year-old women.
01:48:52.020
Like, and he's been like running through less and everything.
01:48:56.860
Let's let the girls give their take and then we'll come in.
01:49:00.740
But just to be clear, I think we shouldn't even use that word on YouTube.
01:49:08.760
Just to clarify, he is talking about adult women.
01:49:17.740
Like, he just talks like a really stupid person.
01:49:20.240
And usually I don't even react to really stupid people.
01:49:34.540
But some guys with small dicks are super fucking confident and awesome and cool.
01:49:51.160
Let's be nice to the gentleman with small penises here.
01:49:56.820
He's like, oh, if like this girl has slept with 30 men, then who am I to them?
01:50:03.300
So, you must not be very good in bed then, right?
01:50:11.380
Why would he say like, oh, like there's been 30 guys, therefore she wouldn't love me anymore.
01:50:18.200
So, you can't only go up against five, not 30, right?
01:50:22.480
He literally said like, well, something's going to go wrong and she's going to just see
01:50:28.960
She's going to see herself out and find somebody better.
01:50:31.620
That's just, he wants girls who don't know that there's a way out.
01:50:35.120
He wants girls that don't know that there are people that are going to respect them and
01:50:42.420
I thought that the guy that I was going to be with for the rest of my life was this motherfucker
01:50:50.000
And, you know, luckily I figured out that it wasn't, you know?
01:50:53.860
When you're that age, you think that that's all that there is.
01:50:56.580
You have a very, very small view of guys in the world.
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And, like, that's absolutely terrible that he wants somebody that doesn't understand
01:51:07.760
Alex, did you have something else you wanted to add there?
01:51:13.960
So, because I did see, like, that video of him talking about how he could, like, imprint,
01:51:19.700
Like, he is trying to, like, take advantage of younger women that don't know better.
01:51:24.820
And every girl can, every single girl can definitely admit that when we're 18 and 19,
01:51:33.480
Unless you're very, very lucky and you get one that age.
01:51:36.860
Like, I did not get a good relationship until I was, like, 23.
01:51:41.620
Do you think that he's wrong for wanting to or having the preference of dating younger women?
01:51:47.300
I don't think that that exact preference is wrong.
01:51:49.820
But I think that his motivation of them staying with them because they will stay with him
01:51:55.360
for no matter how he treats them, I think that is wrong.
01:52:02.460
I think he's saying he doesn't want women with a ton of baggage.
01:52:05.420
He said, he said exactly, if things go wrong, she's going to leave me for somebody else.
01:52:10.860
If things are hard, she's going to leave me for somebody else.
01:52:13.440
If things are that wrong where you feel like you need to leave, I feel like every person
01:52:17.500
in a relationship, whether that guy or woman, should want to feel like they can leave
01:52:21.160
and feel like if it's bad enough to where you want to leave, you should be able to leave.
01:52:24.440
But couldn't it be that someone that's been with 50 people, they're just so quick to just
01:52:34.860
So he wants someone that's going to be more invested.
01:52:39.020
You were saying that earlier in the conversation.
01:52:41.940
It's easier to move on if I'm being treated like shit.
01:52:44.460
If I'm being treated so badly to where it's hurting my mental health and where it's not
01:52:48.720
healthy for me to be in the relationship, I feel more confident in myself now because
01:52:53.220
I know how to be treated well and I know what good relationships look like.
01:52:56.640
I've left relationships not because they were bad, just because it was time for me to leave.
01:53:01.560
It wasn't right for me in other parts of my life, but I know how to be treated well.
01:53:05.160
I know that some relationships that I've been in, they've treated me great.
01:53:11.220
So I've learned how to be treated well and I've noticed different ways where I can be
01:53:16.800
I'm not going to stay with somebody who's treating me badly because I think that's my
01:53:20.640
When I was 18, 19, 20, I thought that was my only option.
01:53:24.120
So I've learned from being in different relationships what it's like to be treated well.
01:53:31.520
Just really quick, what is your kind of first impression or just your thoughts, not necessarily
01:53:35.700
on what he just said, but just your thoughts on him?
01:53:41.320
Can you say that again when the camera's on you?
01:53:54.920
I'm not saying to like younger people, I'm just saying to people who don't have experience,
01:54:03.340
I feel like what he's trying to say is the reason he likes to go for younger women is
01:54:07.580
one, they have less baggage, two, they have this innocence about them, but I don't-
01:54:12.280
Actually, Jane, why don't we just move you over here now?
01:54:16.580
I'm just going to get up and waddle over here now.
01:54:25.040
But where I'm trying to go with this is that a good man would support a younger girl, right?
01:54:32.560
Not just financially, but emotionally and lead her well.
01:54:35.380
That's technically what you would want in a relationship, right?
01:54:39.440
If you're non-religious, then how you feel you want to be led is completely different.
01:54:45.540
He does happen to say some semi-abusive thing sometimes about women.
01:54:51.480
I think what he's trying to say is an old school method of, I would rather date a younger
01:54:55.760
woman and support them and give them that care and that mental strength and help them
01:55:00.320
grow into this bright young person or whoever they're going to be.
01:55:04.620
But in this instance is how he talks about telling women to send him money, how he says he
01:55:09.140
can fuck anyone he wants and he can treat women however he feels.
01:55:12.120
That's abusive, that's wrong, and that's toxic.
01:55:23.240
Because when I first watched him, I watched a reel or something on TikTok.
01:55:28.280
And then I really watched his shit and I was like, no.
01:55:30.220
Yeah, this is not what I envision for a very hyper-masculine alpha male.
01:55:35.540
I just feel like a real alpha male is someone that's going to lead a woman and support them
01:55:40.500
and let them grow, not abuse them and make them feel like they're just a piece of ass,
01:55:45.800
which is basically what society tries to do to us, you know?
01:56:00.200
Oh, just your reaction to the video we just watched.
01:56:03.080
You know, the guy's obviously found a pocket where he can voice certain things either calmly
01:56:11.220
or boisterously, and people are going to listen and chime in.
01:56:14.040
For the most part, he's playing to the ear of men.
01:56:19.420
You know, a lot of guys are going to hear what he has to say, and if they don't agree with it,
01:56:22.900
they're going to sound kind of maybe soft or a little, you know, sheltered.
01:56:26.520
So, you know, for the sake of being a guy, they're going to agree with what he says.
01:56:33.260
He does well on YouTube, and he's all about getting a reaction,
01:56:36.540
and that's just about all I hear as far as the substance coming from that man is he wants a reaction.
01:56:42.320
And he's touching on issues that are sensitive, and he's saying some things that are true,
01:56:47.120
but to kind of generally just cast that as this is what it is, black and white, like, nah, man.
01:56:52.080
He's just – he's getting a reaction, and people are reacting to it,
01:57:00.620
Like, for me personally, like, you know, I date kind of, like, younger women,
01:57:03.940
a few years younger than me, just, like, my preference.
01:57:08.340
I guess it would come with, like, slightly less baggage,
01:57:10.400
but I do think that a lot – I don't – I've never watched a lot of Andrew Tate's, like,
01:57:13.280
you know, like, gone and, like, watched his videos or anything like that.
01:57:15.180
It's, like, very, like, small clips, but I think it's just – it's a social media algorithm.
01:57:20.080
Like, the more, like, out there that you are, the more –
01:57:22.940
Oh, he's for sure intentionally being controversial.
01:57:25.760
But I think he does believe what he says, but he's obviously hamming it up a bit
01:57:29.540
for the controversy for attention, you know, so.
01:57:32.980
It's going to – like, his content is going to, like, really, you know, spike a cue with, like,
01:57:36.820
you know, younger men that want to get out there and get after him and whatnot, but.
01:57:44.420
Yeah, I don't agree with everything that he says, but he's for sure funny.
01:58:05.220
There's a lot of things that I agree with that he says.
01:58:10.700
Like, the girl will cook and clean or whatever.
01:58:22.220
But, like, everything else that he said about the baggage and the young woman and all that shit,
01:58:27.860
Well, can I – let me ask you guys a question real quick.
01:58:39.040
Someone who has less sexual and relationship experience or someone who's had more relationship
01:58:46.620
I'm going to respect the person who has more relationship experience because they know
01:58:50.480
what they want and, like, they've been through it.
01:58:53.440
They're not – like, I've dated guys who haven't had very many relationships and, like,
01:59:00.460
Like, they don't know what they even think or what they want for the future.
01:59:17.080
I'll lead in any sense of the way, I will lead.
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I guess it wouldn't be, like, a deal breaker, but I don't see myself talking to anybody that's
01:59:31.100
like that because, like, we don't have the same, like, social circles and ideals.
01:59:36.500
Like, I feel like I wouldn't meet a guy who's 27 and is a virgin, especially, like, the
01:59:41.240
people that I know, the social circles that I'm in.
01:59:45.000
Nobody's really, like, like that at this point.
01:59:47.560
So, probably not, but not because, like, that's, like, a huge deal breaker for me.
01:59:51.240
What about just a guy who's sexually inexperienced and you had to basically...
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I mean, I've dated, like, somebody who's kind of a little bit like that and it just,
02:00:00.180
like, doesn't really work in the long term for what I'm looking for.
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Yeah, I just, I wanted to make my point, like, have you guys ever heard of the term
02:00:15.340
That's some red pill shit that I don't think anyone's going to know unless they're familiar.
02:00:20.060
So, basically, this is the idea that, like, one of the things Tate said in that clip is
02:00:25.600
that a guy can leave an imprint on a woman, right?
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Do you guys kind of know what he means by that?
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So, like, if a girl ends up with a guy who she really loves and, like, he's, like, the
02:00:43.480
best she's ever had and, you know, he gives it to her really good in the bedroom and,
02:00:49.460
Like, I don't know if you guys have been deeply in love with a man who you really respect.
02:01:02.580
And then he breaks up with you or whatever it is.
02:01:07.540
Women, very often, they will almost never forget about that man.
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Like, maybe you guys haven't been, quote, unquote, imprinted in this way.
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But, like, I don't say this from a place of conceit.
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Like, I've had exes where I know, like, after me, they're going to be thinking of me when they're
02:01:24.500
Do you think that that's, like, specific to guys?
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You're right, but I've found, I know a lot of dudes, and I know a lot of women.
02:01:35.160
It's extremely common among women, and it's not as common among dudes.
02:01:37.880
It's extremely common among, like, it's extremely common among men.
02:01:39.880
I know a lot of dudes who this doesn't happen to, and my point, my point is, my point, when
02:01:45.880
you have a girl that's getting closer to her 30s, like you said, a lot of girls have a lot
02:01:52.300
They're like, I want a man who's going to commit to me.
02:01:54.160
And, you know, they might have a lot of thoughts about their exes and stuff, and maybe it's
02:01:57.600
distorted the way that they look at relationships.
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And it's different from a younger girl who hasn't had a ton of exes that have, like, affected
02:02:09.720
We're talking about the archetype of, like, the 35-year-old, like, wine-drinking dog mom.
02:02:15.040
It's just like, oh, like, all men are like this.
02:02:17.740
Like, everyone's like this, and I need, like, these standards.
02:02:20.080
And it's like, okay, like, if every single dude that you've ever been with, ever had
02:02:23.980
a relationship with, like, they're 100% of the problem.
02:02:26.620
Like, they take zero accountability for all that.
02:02:31.160
Yeah, you wanted to come in with something, right?
02:02:33.620
Well, all I was just going to say is that, for me, I have been out, I was in a relationship
02:02:37.600
two and a half years ago, and I really love that person a lot.
02:02:40.760
And I have not been able to be in a loving relationship to that extent, because I took away from what
02:02:46.800
I had, right, the good and the negative, right, from both sides.
02:02:49.540
And I realized really quickly, I was like, you know what?
02:02:52.360
It's going to be really difficult for me to, like, fully fall in love with someone again.
02:02:59.500
And I've met, and this is, this is for everyone.
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This is how I feel on both gender, whatever your sexual, you know, orientation is on both.
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I feel that it's very difficult, because I have met guys that I've, you know, casually dated
02:03:12.800
for, like, maybe two or three months, four months, and they're like, they want to be
02:03:17.480
They want to fucking get an apartment together.
02:03:24.660
I don't have that same amount of love that I had two and a half years ago.
02:03:28.980
It's very hard, because you get so invested in another person, and, you know, I understand.
02:03:34.540
I understand that person's that person now, and I'm who I am.
02:03:37.200
But I have to realize, like, I can cause issues to other people without realizing it.
02:03:42.180
And it's very frustrating, you know, sometimes, so.
02:03:44.940
I just, really quick, I'm wondering if we can all scoot over a bit so we can get Brandon
02:03:53.600
Brandon, are you, yeah, are you, can you try to just scoot over, and we're going to see
02:03:57.100
if we can get, can we get, are you able to just get in a bit?
02:04:08.480
So, can I, can I say one thing to what she said a few minutes ago?
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So, like, one thing I totally agree with you on is that Andrew Tate is not at all a good
02:04:27.120
I'll believe he's a man of God when he repents of his rampant fornication, and when
02:04:31.020
he, like, actually conforms to a biblical sexual standard, and when he actually conforms
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to the, like, tries to conform to the image of Christ.
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Like, I don't think people who just call themselves Christians, like, actually deserve that title
02:04:44.800
The point was, I don't think he's an example of biblical masculinity.
02:04:48.000
I think he does, to what you two were saying, I think he does take advantage of the fact
02:04:51.420
that, like, younger women, like, a guy in that position, if a guy's super powerful,
02:04:54.840
and he has, like, a lot of money and stuff, and, like, an 18-year-old girl ends up
02:05:00.500
And, like, she's going to think, oh, he's the best I can get, so I have to put up with,
02:05:08.820
The thing I like about him is that he's spitting a lot of hard truths that people need to hear.
02:05:13.500
The thing I don't like about him is that there's young boys that are listening to the stuff
02:05:16.760
that he's saying, and they're thinking, oh, this is 100% how I should treat women.
02:05:21.340
And I don't, you know, this whole conversation, I've been talking about the importance of marriage
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Like, I don't think he's contributing towards building, like, healthy marriages.
02:05:30.700
By the way, I know that you guys were a big fan of Andrew Tate.
02:05:37.560
So we could, we have two more clips if you guys want to watch them.
02:05:43.000
But before we potentially do that, we are going to do a couple super chats.
02:05:58.400
Brandon says that grown man talk, he needs to, oh, says that grown man talk, he needs to be a regular straight gem.
02:06:09.060
I think he's saying that he likes, he likes Brandon.
02:06:13.760
Um, so Brandon, if you want to show some love to our good friend, Nellie Gopar.
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First and foremost, Mike, I'm not a gangster or a cholo.
02:06:44.300
The only thing you're hearing coming out of my car is Motley Crue, Pantera, Metallica.
02:06:54.560
Just, uh, but, uh, so Mike Davis, $5 super chat.
02:07:05.400
I guess Mike Davis wants to put some money on the books, I guess.
02:07:14.820
We're not sure who she, our Andrew Tate is referring to, but I believe.
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No, I, that, I, I think that's the real Andrew Tate, ladies and gentlemen.
02:07:27.720
Um, so, uh, girls, do you want to say anything back to Andrew Tate here?
02:07:39.400
He has all this money and he can't get a fucking, what's the, it's not a duvet.
02:08:02.820
Tonight, Spearman Rhino, uh, you know, like Andrew Tate, Andrew Tate will be a guest on
02:08:08.900
the podcast and you guys should definitely, I would love to, let's definitely be, uh,
02:08:15.080
He needs to take a speech class before he comes on.
02:08:25.840
Uh, this is what you get when you invite older girls on, Roastig.
02:08:38.300
But, uh, yeah, this is what you get when you invite older girls on.
02:08:42.520
Opinionated and dating them sounds like it would be a therapy session.
02:08:47.680
I mean, I just put firms over here just talking about it.
02:08:52.760
I just feel like stuck in their ways just means, like, more settled with who they are
02:09:01.020
Wait, what are your some of your, English is my second language, guys.
02:09:14.980
I don't have sex, like, the first, like, usually, like, three times.
02:09:20.860
I don't have sex, like, usually, like, the first three dates, maybe.
02:09:35.840
I just expect to be treated as, like, I don't know, like, someone that they respect
02:09:38.740
and, like, care about their, my, my opinions and what I have to say.
02:09:44.020
Dudes have way more respect for a woman if she won't give it up on the first date.
02:09:48.680
It's just, like, that's not something that we really care about.
02:09:53.640
I mean, no, because, like, if you care about that, then you're not somebody that I'm interested
02:09:58.560
Like, any guy that cares about that, I'm very much not interested in that.
02:10:04.760
That's okay if you care about it, but I'm just not interested in you anymore.
02:10:07.040
I get where they're coming from, but for me personally, I will not sleep with a guy on
02:10:10.700
the first date, and if he tries to initiate it, I will not talk to them ever again.
02:10:13.580
Because I know all you want to do is just fuck me.
02:10:19.380
Because I know that you want to, but be a little bit more discreet about it.
02:10:28.780
Wait, so if a guy, even if he does seem genuinely interested in you, but it happens to be the
02:10:36.980
case that he makes a move to sleep with you on the first date, it's a wrap, it's done?
02:10:57.760
I said, everyone's roasting me for my body count.
02:11:07.500
But, okay, we got one thing here really quick from Stephen Stifler.
02:11:12.480
Ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of 1 to 10.
02:11:18.880
A, I think I look better in person than I do on camera, so don't try to fight me on
02:11:31.260
You asked me to rate myself, so I'm going to put myself at a 10.
02:11:35.180
I think that, like, when you're asking to rate somebody, right, you're looking at, like,
02:11:43.140
Like, you're looking at, like, what the average person wants everybody to look like.
02:11:47.280
Like, I know, like, most guys want somebody, want a girl who's going to be, like, small,
02:11:52.340
like, blonde hair, mostly, no tattoos, fit, all that.
02:11:59.820
Most of my, like, most of my friends that are guys, they like the blonde girl, they
02:12:03.720
like the granola girls, like, they like the golden retriever girls, and, like, that's
02:12:08.960
Like, I definitely, like, I know that I make myself look a certain way that appeals to a
02:12:15.980
So if we're going out for, like, a whole, just, like, average across the board, I'd say
02:12:22.400
But if we're going for, like, my type and what I'm trying to appeal to, I'd say I'm,
02:12:27.180
Like, the guys that I want, they think I'm a nine.
02:12:33.940
If you lined up a hundred men, what do you think they would...
02:12:38.460
Because you said, Jane, you said, this is what I would give myself.
02:12:42.540
But if you lined up a hundred men, what do you think they would rate you as?
02:12:45.720
I think my average would probably be, like, and this is complete honesty, maybe, like,
02:12:57.280
Every guy I've ever found attractive that I've tried to pursue, I've never been rejected.
02:13:05.040
I don't know if that's what it is, but I feel like, you know...
02:13:17.840
I mean, they weren't always the greatest guys I was...
02:13:21.960
I really want to go into this one because this, to me, fucking blows my mind as a man.
02:13:33.780
Like, I feel like it was, like, more subtle, but I feel like, yeah.
02:13:38.140
Okay, but so for Jane, you've never been rejected by a guy?
02:13:47.420
Of the relationships you've been in, you've ended all of them?
02:13:56.440
Yeah, like, first initial, like, trying to, like, talk to them or get to know them or get
02:14:01.600
But I usually, like, I have only been broken up with, like...
02:14:25.700
Rejection's such a hard way to say it, but I've had some deal breakers.
02:14:33.340
Have you been rejected after advancing on a chick or not?
02:14:38.600
At the time being, probably, but there was a later story to tell, more than likely.
02:15:07.260
You guys are in the business of sometimes getting rejected.
02:15:10.320
Like, you guys are built up to where it's like...
02:15:12.400
Like, you're told by your buddies, like, what's the worst he's going to say?
02:15:15.580
For us, like, if we were to walk up to a dude, like, we are going to, like, stand there
02:15:20.700
Yeah, like, we're not going to go for anybody who's super not into it.
02:15:23.420
Like, we're going to go off of, like, cues for us to make sure they like us
02:15:27.320
But we get to use that to our advantage, for sure.
02:15:33.780
What we do as men, like, we'll go up to them and be like,
02:15:40.060
You guys, like, you kind of, like, look at the guy,
02:15:43.940
Like, I've been asked out by girls, like, twice.
02:15:50.200
I've only asked a guy out maybe, like, three times.
02:15:55.340
I just feel way too masculine, and I don't like that energy.
02:15:58.040
I'm giving off, and I'm like, eh, I don't want to do that.
02:16:08.580
You're in a stronger negotiating position, let's just say.
02:16:13.420
If they're coming to you, and this, like, for a business deal,
02:16:18.880
if they're coming to you, you're in a stronger position
02:16:27.780
but I don't like when they straight up ask me out.
02:16:29.620
Like, I don't like having to, like, reject a girl,
02:16:34.260
I invite it, but it just doesn't really happen,
02:16:39.520
Bro, we're going to find you your 411 beef curtain queen, bro.
02:17:05.220
I ask, like, if I want to go out with somebody,
02:17:15.000
bro, they got a pretty fucking good conversion, right?
02:17:43.740
But do you guys think that dating is easier for men
02:17:56.560
Um, I don't think it's easier for any, either of them.
02:18:01.100
I can't even, like, I feel like it's just hard.
02:18:13.300
I've probably been rejected thousands of times.
02:18:30.860
or, or do women have unreasonable expectations of men?
02:18:39.320
I think women want champions and dudes want hot women.
02:18:48.360
And like a lot of dudes have like anxiety, insecurities.
02:18:52.200
There's very few, like what, what, what, what's the statistic?
02:18:57.920
as above average looking or something like that.
02:19:01.900
Well, they did, they did studies on the dating apps and, you know,
02:19:05.920
men rated women on a bell curve in terms of attractiveness.
02:19:10.200
And they, I think women found 80% of the men ranked them as unattractive.
02:19:21.180
And I think it was actually, it might've been lower.
02:19:39.680
Dude, the average man, you'll find maybe a handful of girls
02:19:45.160
And the average girl, you'll find thousands of dudes
02:19:51.080
that like take up the vast majority of women for sure.
02:19:55.060
But you guys basically just said that in itself.
02:19:57.720
There's a vast amount of men that will just have sex with her though.
02:20:07.260
like some people, if they just want to, you know.
02:20:09.800
Yeah, but that's why I feel like it's a little bit more difficult for women
02:20:17.180
we have to fish through all these guys that I may not get rejected,
02:20:29.740
That is one of the difficulties that women face
02:20:31.880
is there's guys that will not have any interest in you
02:20:48.500
there's going to be, you pick any average girl,
02:20:51.760
that would love to be in a relationship with her
02:21:06.840
Like a girl is going to find 90% of those dudes unattractive
02:21:13.940
there's like probably at least a few dozen dudes
02:21:15.760
that would love to be in a relationship with you.
02:21:20.400
The men who would be dutiful, loyal, loving boyfriends
02:21:27.580
But wait, did you guys on the topic of your phones,
02:22:08.160
Not my last girlfriend, but the one before that was 19.
02:22:18.920
I mean, I've had a girl that was four or five years younger than me,
02:22:22.160
and the maturity level was just on a whole different plateau.
02:22:27.940
well, you know, this, nah, she's been out of high school for a year.
02:22:30.500
This girl was smart, knew where she wanted to go in life,
02:22:33.800
knew what she liked, knew what she was into, what she wasn't into.
02:22:37.260
The girl that I dated before that that was 34, 35,
02:22:46.800
You know, so when people get into the whole, you know,
02:22:52.640
But in all actuality, do people really, really feel that way?
02:23:06.480
Some of these girls are on there like, you know,
02:23:15.220
But I've met a lot of guys that will comment on that,
02:23:20.900
You know, and for me personally, bro, like, you know,
02:23:31.140
To pick a corner and shoot arrows at other people
02:23:34.260
for what they see as true or what they see as comfortable,
02:23:37.820
like, you're either a hater or you're just immature.
02:23:43.560
So, you know, there was a couple comments on the last show
02:23:47.540
that people were saying stuff, and it kind of rubbed me wrong.
02:23:52.100
You're either hating or you're just not that mature
02:23:58.340
or whatever relationships you had been in before, you know?
02:24:03.260
Can I ask both of you a question from what he just said?
02:24:06.800
If you found a girl and she had had, let's say she's 20,
02:24:11.440
and she had a 60-year-old sugar daddy that she was with for a while,
02:24:14.280
would that make her more dateable to you guys or less dateable?
02:24:21.200
and you find out that for a while she had a 60-year-old sugar daddy
02:24:24.820
Would that make her more or less dateable to you?
02:24:33.120
Because I do think that someone who is in an arrangement of that type,
02:24:43.120
It's kind of like you're selling your body, in my opinion.
02:24:57.320
I mean, from like marriage and dateability perspective,
02:25:02.960
but like I would never date a woman that did that.
02:25:13.120
saying, yeah, the girl that goes for that is the one that,
02:25:21.080
I mean, we can stay primitive with a lot of our core values,
02:25:35.820
I'd rather get with somebody who's played around in all them pools,
02:25:43.420
but knows what they want, knows what they don't want,
02:25:45.820
so when they come to the table in a relationship with me,
02:26:22.420
I mean, that's what makes people people is experiences.
02:26:27.140
I say, folks, this is the decline of the West right here.
02:26:42.040
Like, those women, like, they're not for everybody.
02:27:03.040
And so, like, that life has been taken from them.
02:27:26.040
You don't know which 50% are in those relationships.
02:27:41.400
and the more likely the breakup of the relationship
02:27:54.220
There's so much more leading into that divorce.
02:28:14.420
Like pretty sexually liberated at the same time.
02:28:15.700
He's like, no, she needs to think exactly like me
02:28:17.780
I'm actually not saying that she needs to think exactly like me.
02:28:23.700
I'm just saying like there is room for disagreement on this
02:28:26.220
and I have not bashed you guys on your thoughts at all
02:28:28.480
and I have not bashed you guys on what you think.
02:28:40.460
The fact that women are more liberated nowadays,
02:28:44.640
the fact that like we just got the right to vote 100 years ago.
02:28:55.760
What does that have to do with marital satisfaction though?
02:29:07.960
of those here that say that body count matters,
02:29:30.700
But we do think that it has an impact on relationships
02:29:44.640
The way that you're saying it is disrespectful.
02:30:42.280
But the fact that my mom made certain decisions,
02:30:55.620
like I think that's why I strongly disagree with you
02:30:58.660
on why you want to just completely eliminate somebody
02:31:18.080
So that's the only thing I ever will say to that.
02:31:24.260
and that makes you feel good and sexually liberated,
02:31:37.660
Alex, I think you wanted to come in with something.
02:31:43.120
They just reminded me that you said town bicycle.
02:32:04.900
I don't want a bicycle that's been over a budget.
02:32:18.740
One of my best friends, he has sex with fucking everybody.
02:32:25.560
I promise you the women that he gets with, they do not care.
02:32:31.000
So it's like, we don't talk shit like that about guys.
02:32:43.640
Do you want to date a guy that's your height or taller?
02:32:53.760
Generally speaking, do you want to date a guy who's your height or taller?
02:32:58.840
Would you want to date a guy who's physically larger than you?
02:33:02.200
I mean, yeah, for the most part, but not like muscular.
02:33:08.880
Right, but let's say there's a guy that is smaller than them.
02:33:11.580
Well, if they're taller, they're probably going to be like a little bit bigger than me.
02:33:14.380
Okay, Jane, would you date a guy who's shorter than you or smaller in stature than you?
02:33:17.920
If I want a guy who is physically fit and who is taller than me, I would like to have D1 babies.
02:33:23.300
So that is an asymmetry in what men and women find attractive.
02:33:32.980
You specifically specified the heights that you like.
02:33:45.320
For me, for a lot of women, it's a deal breaker if the guy's shorter than them.
02:33:50.560
Can we appreciate Brian saying, most guys don't give a fuck.
02:34:08.480
There's an asymmetry in what men and women find attractive.
02:34:11.420
And one of the things that men value in women, whether you like it or not, men value sexual purity in women.
02:34:18.460
And generally speaking, broadly speaking, I know there's some guys who don't care.
02:34:23.660
No guy's going to be like, gee, I really wish my girlfriend had fucked more men before she met me.
02:34:32.920
Ashley wants dudes that have ran through women.
02:34:34.920
I literally, like, I want them to know what they want.
02:34:40.680
Ashley wants those dudes with a thousand body cams.
02:34:48.460
Like, it's just not a thing that matters to me.
02:34:55.960
Hey, Shrums, I just want you to know I'm reading the comment panel, too.
02:34:59.160
Okay, we're going to do some super chats really quick, and then maybe we'll pick back up the body count discussion.
02:35:03.120
But we have a lot of super chats we've got to get through.
02:35:12.740
Women are shallow if they don't have relationships with short men.
02:35:22.760
You want, like, a partner who's going to give you, like, kids that are strong and who can fend for themselves.
02:35:43.020
Joel Olsteen wannabe likes the sound of his voice too much.
02:35:48.840
Tell him to switch places with Brandon or join the Asian girl.
02:35:54.740
Yo, Mike, Mike, just so you know, I love the sound of my voice.
02:36:07.200
Not being rejected talks more to desperation of men than their value.
02:36:10.900
Also, men entertain a sea creature for a hit and run, but won't wife them up.
02:36:22.880
Mike Davis, thank you very much for the $5 soup chat.
02:37:04.860
Is music taste that doesn't line up with yours a deal breaker?
02:37:44.280
When we're in my car, we're listening to what I want to do.
02:37:48.800
Dude, you've got to read Mike Davis' latest comment.
02:38:02.600
Was thrown out, and not one guy had the balls to shut her up.
02:38:20.900
I addressed it, too, and I said it was more like predatory, other than pedophilia.
02:38:39.660
Would a group of girls disapprove for their friend?
02:38:42.320
No way to DM slash IG stock show pics to friends, et cetera.
02:38:50.580
Yeah, guys, just by the way, for the super chats, if you can, just proofread them a little
02:39:07.660
I think it's pretty hot when they don't have an Instagram.
02:39:17.860
I would love to get to a point in my life where I could be in a relationship with someone
02:39:20.620
and we both don't have any social media at all.
02:39:23.020
So we could just kind of not even have to deal with any outside stuff.
02:39:53.480
When you go out, you know, with your family and stuff like that and you have conversation,
02:39:56.980
like, they have no idea what's going on in your life and it's great.
02:39:59.180
And it's one less issue for outside interference and that's why I like it.
02:40:08.360
Thank you, Mike Davis, for the continued support here.
02:40:12.640
Mike Davis, I'm not gay, but I'd go gay for Brandon.
02:40:15.720
The way his tattoos are structured is divine, his chains and earrings are angelic, and his
02:40:32.980
Mr. Mike Davis, flattery will get you nowhere, sir.
02:40:37.800
Yo, I'm sensing some, like, sexual tension between Brandon and Mike Davis, dude.
02:40:49.260
These little girls probably listen to the little yachty.
02:40:51.500
Since it's such a heated discussion, yeah, we don't want to date promiscuous women.
02:41:03.840
We've already, like, said all of our pieces on that, you know?
02:41:08.180
See, this is what's interesting to me is that...
02:41:21.440
Well, look at the visceral reaction from you guys on the body count thing.
02:41:25.560
I don't think that you're not allowed to have it.
02:41:26.960
I just think that you guys wouldn't want to date us, and we're just saying that we wouldn't want to date you either.
02:41:37.360
Like, you guys are saying to us, like, oh, I wouldn't date you guys because you don't have...
02:42:05.040
I think because we're not saying that we wouldn't date guys that have that preference.
02:42:08.840
We're saying that you guys are allowed to have that preference, and then you guys are saying...
02:42:13.240
You guys are saying, like, we don't respect that.
02:42:16.480
Well, it just sounds disrespectful because we're not giving those rude, like, nicknames and rude things to you guys or guys that are like that.
02:42:30.560
Like, I just think that it's really, really rude, and I think that you guys are trying to be funny, and, like, we're not into it either.
02:42:44.040
When I say Town Bicycle, you all are very lovely.
02:42:50.420
I'm just saying we don't want to date the Town Bicycle.
02:42:53.940
So, my only thing is, like, right, we're talking about this.
02:43:04.720
I don't like putting out my personal sexual history for everybody to know.
02:43:12.080
I don't think it's any of your fucking business, to be honest.
02:43:14.500
So, it's, like, why can't I just keep that to myself?
02:43:18.340
Maybe I have my own things that I'm trying to deal with about that.
02:43:27.080
She's trying to tell us she has a high body count.
02:43:32.280
You're implying that you have a high body count.
02:43:36.240
It just shouldn't be a topic of discussion in our opinion.
02:43:50.820
Wait, just bring the microphone just a bit closer.
02:43:52.620
For me, personally, sexual past does not matter.
02:43:55.000
I'm just saying I don't like discussing my body count.
02:43:59.620
If I were a relationship with somebody, that's a total different conversation that I'm going
02:44:06.500
So, I'm not going to talk to you guys about that.
02:44:10.760
No, you're under no obligation to disclose your body count.
02:44:15.780
Ashley, are you saying it's inappropriate for a dude who wants to date you to ask that
02:44:20.380
I think that he could, but it's just literally like any of the guys that I've dated have
02:44:24.300
not asked that because it's just not something that comes up.
02:44:26.860
Well, the other thing is, is that people are going to lie about that one.
02:44:30.880
So, there's not really a point in asking because both men and women are going to lie about
02:44:37.840
I mean, some people are going to be honest, but most people are not going to be up front
02:44:44.620
They're not going to be up front about their body count, I think.
02:44:48.940
Noble Spit said, shout out to Alex for actually giving her real number.
02:45:12.180
Do you see, apparently, I had an entanglement with Will Smith.
02:45:16.580
I think there is a saying, though, with the body count thing.
02:45:19.240
Multiply it by three, and that's the real number.
02:45:25.760
Okay, Will Smith has apparently had an entanglement with everybody.
02:45:30.120
Yeah, no, but it does seem like when men state their preferences that it's often met with
02:45:40.940
She called it pedophilia, that he wanted girls that were 18.
02:45:52.000
It's not necessarily that, just, like, it's straight up.
02:45:54.620
So, like, if a guy was more respectful about it, and he wanted an 18-year-old, would it
02:46:03.380
You guys say that that's so weird, and I understand why you feel that way.
02:46:12.320
The two of you said, you're both making the point that that's so weird.
02:46:16.560
This was the norm for thousands of years throughout human history.
02:46:19.240
Yeah, but that doesn't mean it's okay, and that doesn't mean we should act like it's
02:46:21.860
Why is it wrong if a guy wants a younger woman with a lower body count?
02:46:25.240
Because if we're saying that he wants an 18-year-old, like, a lot of 18-year-olds are still
02:46:29.220
Like, you know what you were like when you were 18.
02:46:33.320
Like, think about how you were as an 18-year-old.
02:46:35.640
Would you want to date a girl who's in the same position as you as an 18-year-old?
02:46:38.560
I absolutely would never want to date somebody that was thinking the same way.
02:46:52.500
You think that what you're attracted to is what men are attracted to.
02:46:55.700
But men and women have different things that they're attracted to.
02:47:01.060
Things that you find attractive in the men, men might not necessarily find attractive in
02:47:06.820
The characteristics and traits that men find attractive in women are not the same things
02:47:14.760
So I'm not saying that it's, like, completely...
02:47:25.960
Like, when you guys first started talking about, like, wanting a lower body count and
02:47:30.040
all that, I was like, I understand where you're coming from.
02:47:32.640
And I'm not saying that that's completely, like, not okay.
02:47:38.160
And, like, I was never trying to shame you guys for wanting that.
02:47:43.560
But now you're saying it's wrong that men are attracted to younger women.
02:47:47.420
I think specifically the 18-year-old thing to me is weird because I was 18 for my entire
02:47:53.140
So I'm just, like, thinking of myself as that 18-year-old girl, like, with a 40-year-old
02:47:57.860
And I just, like, would feel like that was very wrong.
02:47:59.900
Like, I've been that young and I've had very, like, old guys come at me and it's just,
02:48:04.140
But men and women are attracted to different things.
02:48:08.540
Because, and I mean, I don't, I probably would not want to date an 18-year-old in high
02:48:21.320
So this is where I, because I do date older guys.
02:48:26.780
But, like, my example I always give is, like, Kobe Bryant and his wife.
02:48:31.460
But they met when she was in high school and she was really young and he was in college
02:48:36.240
Well, if there was, if she was under the age of consent, I mean, that's totally different.
02:48:42.440
I would assume the guys here, we're talking about adult women.
02:48:46.040
They didn't have a relationship until she graduated high school that was legal and consenting
02:48:52.080
But she could have, you know, dated all of these other girls.
02:48:56.080
He was, I mean, going, I'm not super in basketball, so I could be misquoting it.
02:49:00.220
But I know that, like, he wanted to be with her and he had dated other people before her,
02:49:07.120
And she came off as super mature and they were together and they had, you know, they
02:49:10.960
had their babies and they had a successful marriage.
02:49:13.100
Obviously, they had some, you know, hiccups along the way for themselves.
02:49:16.800
But then again, he still stuck with her in the end.
02:49:19.560
He might have, you know, screwed around, but he still was like, that's my wife.
02:49:24.120
And always went back to his wife and tried to fix it with his wife.
02:49:27.000
Not everybody agrees with that way of thinking.
02:49:28.900
But like, for me, I can understand why a woman, you know, finds an older guy attractive.
02:49:33.760
I like older guys mainly because, one, with my job and my career and what I do, I make
02:49:40.220
And I don't like dating people that are beneath my income.
02:49:43.220
Not because I feel like, you know, it's not a good person, but I want us to be equal.
02:49:47.120
I don't want to have to, like, feel like I can't go on a vacation with you and I, we can't
02:49:51.740
do what I really want to do because you can't afford what I would like to do.
02:49:57.000
So this is another asymmetry in what men and women, or asymmetry in what men and women
02:50:02.480
find different in terms of what they find attractive.
02:50:05.500
You mentioned that in a partner, you'd want a guy that makes at least as much as you or
02:50:11.660
So I think if you ask most men, most men don't give a fuck about a woman's finances.
02:50:28.780
Whereas if you ask most women, most women are going to be like, I want a guy who at least
02:50:34.680
Or they will at least have some degree of investment in a guy who's successful or ambitious.
02:50:43.980
And if they, oh, I really want a girl who, they're lying.
02:50:51.180
I thought that would be a bit more upsetting, but.
02:50:57.820
Like, would you date a barista at Starbucks who's like 20?
02:51:03.740
I mean, okay, if she was like a way off the wall spender, or was like, give me a credit
02:51:10.240
But no, yeah, if she just makes like, you know, the modest amount, like I'm, I'm cool
02:51:14.080
But you wouldn't need her to make as much as you or more.
02:51:18.880
As long as she's not like in serious debt or something.
02:51:25.900
She's got to have ambition and some kind of a plan.
02:51:34.720
We're supposed to come together and move as a unit.
02:51:37.420
If we're even on that level of talking relationship status independently, I don't really care
02:51:42.960
what she makes, but she's got to have ambition and some kind of a plan.
02:51:46.040
Chris, can you open the doors, please, both of them?
02:51:48.500
Can I just add that I actually would prefer to fully provide for my wife?
02:51:57.760
Like, I don't want her working for another man when like her and I can be working together,
02:52:19.440
Well, he just said he doesn't want her working for another man.
02:52:21.780
It's not about her working for a man or a woman.
02:52:26.700
It's that she's working towards building something for somebody else.
02:52:29.900
I was just trying to give you shit on like your terminology.
02:52:40.600
I don't really want to work when I'm older, so I don't know.
02:52:49.480
I would love to be taken care of and I'll clean and I'll cook and I'll take care of
02:53:03.020
And so, I assume when you have kids, that's the point at which, if you had a partner who
02:53:09.400
could provide for you, that's the point at which when you'd want to just stay at home
02:53:15.360
So, that's a very traditional arrangement, wouldn't you say?
02:53:29.580
Alex, Ian Clasper said, purple hair girl, wave at screen again.
02:53:42.140
We got one super chat here from our good friend, Mike Davis.
02:53:45.540
Ask Brandon if I can be his conjugal visit next time he's locked up.
02:53:53.300
I tell you what, send Brian a $100 super chat right now and you got it, Mike.
02:54:01.160
That would be the biggest super chat this stream ever receives.
02:54:05.520
By the way, can we get one person to become a member of Joyin?
02:54:09.740
I want to see that little icon next to your name.
02:54:34.240
So I want to run through just some preferences here and I want to open it up.
02:54:44.580
I don't know if I should wait until she's back for these.
02:55:08.380
She is very intelligent, super down to earth, very family orientated, knows exactly what
02:55:17.000
Unfortunately for me, I was just a life experience for her at the end of the day, but we're still
02:55:40.600
Yo, let's go MD Music, bass, red-pilled Chad Chase.
02:55:46.480
I feel like you guys only talked about what you want for working and not working.
02:56:05.160
You're like, we don't want to talk to the bartenders.
02:56:36.600
Wait, I got a little something for Mike Davis here.
02:57:24.480
One more chat from MD, and this show must be named after him.
02:57:27.980
Mike Davis, we got to get you in the studio, dude.
02:57:37.180
I feel like if you did a podcast with him and Mike Davis together, it'd be like the funniest podcast ever.
02:57:45.200
But I'm not sure what, if it's just a friendly banter or if there's going to be violence.
02:57:53.780
Based on that last statement, I don't think he wants violence.
02:58:13.600
She was saying, did you want to get in a piece on what we were talking about before with like the working and stuff?
02:58:23.560
You know what I think we should do to wrap it up?
02:58:27.580
Can I get one of the bras to screen cap me with this super sand mode right now?
02:58:44.240
We do Goku memes all the time, so this is very on brand.
02:59:04.380
We're going to wrap up here in a couple minutes.
02:59:15.140
After everything that's been discussed, do you guys have any comments you want to make to us?
02:59:19.940
Well, what we'll do is actually we can do this right now.
02:59:22.140
Final thoughts, if you have just something you want to say, or if a question that you
02:59:26.840
want to pose to someone else on the panel, post to us on the panel.
02:59:31.340
Final thoughts or final thoughts or a question.
03:00:01.280
Tanner, did you say that you were in the military?
03:00:17.760
I mentioned that I was in the National Guard, yeah.
03:00:24.780
I like that you guys did not have any hesitation to, you know, share your thoughts.
03:00:34.660
And, yeah, that's, I mean, that's pretty much it.
03:00:37.980
Oh, my, I do, I guess I do have one final question.
03:00:46.660
Chris, if you can put it on Kiki, sent her Zoom for a sec.
03:00:57.960
So, I think in the next 20 years, the future, maybe it could be longer than 20 years, I think
03:01:05.920
the future of dating is going to be sex robots.
03:01:12.000
I think sex robots are coming for both men and women.
03:01:15.700
So, I want to open it up to the panel really quick.
03:01:18.460
Who do you think is going to better adapt to the coming of sex robots?
03:01:23.760
Who's going to be happier with the sex robot situation, men or women?
03:01:42.380
Would you, do you think you'd prefer a sex robot to a real human person?
03:01:50.180
Let's say the sex robot is an absolute stallion.
03:02:36.900
And I think sex robots, this is Satan's plan to destroy humanity.
03:02:51.940
First of all, I gotta pay how much fucking money for this goddamn thing?
03:03:10.020
I'm not gonna like not date somebody because I have a vibrator.
03:03:41.040
And men already are opting out of the dating marketplace.
03:03:43.540
And I mean, there's these real dolls, which I mean, that's kind of, I don't think that's
03:03:50.060
But like when there's artificial intelligence, sex dolls that like can give you, not all,
03:03:58.780
I know this is a really odd fucking question here, but it's not only sex, but companionship.
03:04:03.880
And I think we're moving in that direction of artificial intelligence.
03:04:07.060
And I mean, I know it's kind of funny to talk about, but I think a lot of men are getting
03:04:11.500
zeroed out of the dating marketplace because, I mean, like you guys said, you said you found
03:04:21.300
The average man is struggling in the dating marketplace and sex robots are coming.
03:04:27.000
And I think they're going to be embraced by men.
03:04:29.640
And I, I think some women are going to be cool with it.
03:04:33.460
But I mean, like in, like in Asia where like a lot of dudes just like, they will not have
03:04:42.860
A lot of ways are already getting out of the market.
03:04:44.460
Just like pornography in general, you know what I mean?
03:04:47.000
Where again, it's like, okay, I have to get out there.
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I have to compete, put myself out there, maybe get rejected.
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Like have to, you know, pay money, do all that.
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Like, or I can just like jerk off, you know what I mean?
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I think pornography is super destructive on all kinds of things.
03:04:59.940
Well, I think the, I mean the dating market for men, if you're like a top 10, top 20%
03:05:17.260
So, I think, I don't know, I don't know what's going to happen, but I do think people.
03:05:26.100
I guess they've got their sex robots dialed in.
03:05:31.120
Don't they have, don't, don't more adults buy diapers in Japan than, than they do for
03:05:39.120
It's like, it's like one of those, one of those random things that you see online.
03:05:48.540
I guess, did you guys want us to, so Chase, if you want to give a final thought?
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Uh, first off, I want to appreciate how open you guys were, despite us having like very
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different opinions and you guys feeling judged, like Alex, massive respect for your openness
03:06:04.040
Um, yeah, I, if I'm being honest, like I think this like extreme liberal attitude towards
03:06:17.300
I think that there's going to be a lot of people, I think there's going to be, so women
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right now between the age of like 40 and 50 childless women, that is the number one demographic
03:06:28.760
on antidepressants and I think that there's going to be a lot of childless women in the
03:06:32.920
future because of the really liberal mentality towards sex.
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Um, I think it's cancerous on our society, but I respect you guys as people.
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I don't respect the, the, the, the super high body counts and stuff, but I respect you
03:06:56.360
Tanner, final thoughts or a question for the panel?
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Appreciate you guys being super open and honest for sure.
03:07:13.920
Some of the questions and topics were a little nerve unraveling, but they went with it.
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The gentlemen, uh, you guys are my, you know, you guys are my boys, you know what I'm saying?
03:07:27.460
Um, however, don't feel, don't feel hesitant to test your theories.
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Ashley, final thought or question for the panel?
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Um, yeah, I think it's, I think it was pretty good.
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Everybody was able to talk and had a lot to say, which is, um, super good.
03:07:55.840
Um, I think that we should all just definitely respect each other's opinions and respect each
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Like we can all think differently and we can all have different preferences and that's
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okay, but we don't need to, we don't need to be like mean about it.
03:08:12.280
No, that wasn't, that wasn't what's like, that wasn't what it was.
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It was just like, I'm just going to leave it at that.
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I think that like, we can all have, we can just all have different preferences and we can
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all like different things and that, that's okay.
03:08:28.060
I am curious though, what did we say that was mean?
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I feel like we don't need to like fully get into it.
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It'll be a whole thing, but it's just like, you know, once you guys get into this thing
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and then you say time, town bicycle and you guys all kind of agree and you guys are all
03:08:45.080
And, and I agree with a lot of my friends too, but like when we're having a discussion like
03:08:49.820
this, when we're going back and forth, like we need to like give everybody a chance
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to, you know, not be judged and not be, not be seen in.
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Well, I think I don't mean to look down on you.
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I'm just, we're having a conversation where a lot of people don't see a lot of people are
03:09:19.660
I mean, as far as the body count thing, um, as far as like, it's so funny that you guys
03:09:26.360
It's like all dudes, like I promise you, it's really not all dudes.
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Most, most guys are not going to, most guys can't be honest though.
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Because, because I, to me, it boggles my mind that I would be like, gee, I really want
03:10:04.420
Then, then they've, uh, and they're, and they're super attractive, super great guys.
03:10:11.180
I mean, they, they, they've had the programming injected into their head.
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Like they're thinking about women in a different way.
03:10:23.100
How many of these dudes would make good husbands?
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So anyways, um, well, it's just like, I promise you they would like, they're my best friends.
03:10:38.800
Like I have a really solid group of friends that we all like have talked about all this
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stuff and like, but they would be great husbands.
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Guys can't cheat on their wives, would be committed.
03:10:52.460
They see me and they don't think of me as just like a woman with a high body count.
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They think of me and they think of me like they think of their guy friend.
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They don't see me as somebody that should have a low body count.
03:11:07.180
Are you saying when they're pursuing, when they're pursuing a romantic partner, they
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have communicated to you that they do not care.
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They've said, I don't care if she's slept with 300 men.
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So if a woman had slept with a thousand men, they wouldn't care.
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But we've never talked about a limit because we're not like, oh my God, that's so crazy.
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We're like, oh, I don't really care about that.
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A thing that comes up and we say, I don't really care about that.
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And then we move on to another subject because we don't really care.
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I'm curious how many of these dudes that you're saying agree with you or like they don't care.
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They're saying this because they know that you don't care and you'd be pissed if they
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Well, I thought that was so, I thought I was so unattractive because I've slept with
03:12:43.800
There's attractiveness in terms of like physical attractiveness.
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And then there's like picking a girl in terms of like, do you think that they would skew
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All right, well, that's just where we're going to disagree.
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Well, men cannot, men cannot be honest with their preferences, standards, and boundaries
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because we get shamed for it because it goes against the status quo of what is considered
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For example, if a guy says, I don't want to date a woman who's overweight, he's like most
03:13:16.820
You're going to get shamed for your preferences.
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Men, men's preferences, standards, and boundaries are almost always going to be met with contempt,
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derision, some sort of shaming language, insecure, small dick, energy, misogyny, all this stuff.
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And dudes that are put in the friend zone who are simping for a chick, they will 100%
03:13:35.360
compromise on their values and stuff so that they can get a morsel of that pussy.
03:13:42.520
I'm just going to disagree with you guys on that exact subject.
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Audience, do we, do you guys think that her friends are simps or not?
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You don't know like the group of friends that I have.
03:14:03.480
Well, we'll move on from the body count discussion because we've, you've definitely.
03:14:07.480
We've, if you guys want to come in on more, that's fine.
03:14:09.920
We want to obviously give you guys a chance to give your take, but, um, Jane, do you want
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to come in with your final thought or question for the panel?
03:14:17.840
I appreciate being on here, being asked to be on here and meeting some new people.
03:14:22.900
Like socializing and like meeting different people and their perspectives.
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Cause I think regardless on what side that you're on, I feel like it either helps better
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your opinion or helps broaden your mind a little bit more.
03:14:34.400
Um, I would like to say, you know, it's, it's, it's kind of refreshing though to see us,
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how we can be different on certain things, but then kind of, kind of unite together, which
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I think is kind of nice, like, especially for us to just be able to have an open conversation
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and yeah, we might get very passionate about what we're passionate about, but in ultimate,
03:14:55.980
that's like such a beautiful thing that we can actually be passionate about and what
03:15:02.940
I haven't had a conversation like this in a while.
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And it's good to get it out and be opened and do it in a non demeaning way.
03:15:10.720
I think that's what, why I was so okay with this conversation.
03:15:14.380
The only thing I would have maybe liked if we didn't go back to the body count so much
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because there was other points that were actually really important that I feel like we could
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have discussed a little bit more, but because there was a lot of poking going on and it was
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But at the same time I was like, okay, drop it.
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What would you have preferred we talk about instead?
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Like, we were talking about like the older age one and then like marriage and things
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So like, I would have preferred if we went back to that.
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And then like actual dating preferences, like that's one dating preference, but there was
03:15:54.440
Well, we can have you come back on and certainly get into some other topics.
03:15:57.780
We are definitely have gone a bit long tonight.
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So unfortunately, we won't be able to get into some of those other things, but certainly
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in another show, it'd be great to get into some of those other topics.
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And then finally, Alex, final thought or question for the panel.
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I'm not used to being so like perceived by people, but it was kind of a lot.
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Would you guys get your significant other's name tattooed on you?
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So yes or no, I don't have any tattoos whatsoever.
03:16:40.400
Oh, but yeah, no, I don't think I would, I wouldn't get a tattoo.
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Uh, just, I feel like my tastes change and then I'd, I'd feel bad if I had, had a tattoo
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It says, it says, uh, uh, 10,000 and that's a story for another time.
03:17:22.080
No, I wouldn't get a significant other tattooed on me.
03:17:24.000
If it was my kid, um, maybe, probably, but a significant other, no.
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I don't have any significant other names on me, uh, present or past, but who knows in the future.
03:17:49.140
Alex, can you move, just put your mic in your lap?
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Just random patterns that a friend of mine had that was doing a bunch of work.
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Would you get a significant other tattooed on you?
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Maybe, like, a matching one or, like, something, like, that was, like, together.
03:18:24.500
Oh, I would get, I would get my husband, for sure.
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Just, like, I would get, like, a super dope thing for the ring and then probably get some on my shoulder.
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Okay, we're going to wrap up here in just a couple minutes.
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I just have to get through a couple super chats.
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Have you gotten a tattoo of a significant other on you?
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So, I've had a couple boyfriends that were bitches.
03:18:56.120
Wait, so, and that was the inspiration for the tattoo?
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I got to get through Tom Haven with the $2 super chat.
03:19:21.280
Yo, Alex, entertain me says I'd get Alex's name tatted on me.
03:19:36.760
California Dream, and thank you for the $5 super chat.
03:19:41.320
Why in society is it hot for women to be bisexual,
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but when it comes to guys, they have to hide their sexual curiosity?
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I mean, I certainly agree that I think when it comes to bisexuality,
03:19:51.220
it is deemed a bit more acceptable if it's a woman who's bisexual
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It's, like, that is literally, like, that is, like, I was talking about my type
03:20:28.940
I know it's, like, very, very, um, unique, so it's not something that I,
03:20:32.160
like, actively look for because it's hard to find, but that is, like, right there.
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Like, I would love to see how many dudes you've dated actually fit this description.
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And, say, for me, I mean, I like the feminine guys, too, and, like, um, but I do know some
03:20:51.680
girls that don't like bi guys because they, like, they want a more masculine guy, and
03:21:02.160
Yeah, but it's usually they have that, like, mixture of, like, yeah.
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People can have different preferences, sure, but when it comes to population collapse, every
03:21:29.920
human's best interest, data supports high body counts, means lower birth rates and collapsing
03:21:36.920
Yeah, I mean, uh, I guess, you know, I think that, I think what is best for society, and
03:21:46.180
this is a very idealized vision for society, is people are not promiscuous.
03:21:58.420
Um, and we've definitely, there's definitely been efforts to destroy the nuclear family.
03:22:08.780
I think society functions best when you have strong family units, you have men and women
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And, uh, yeah, there's definitely in the West, I mean, it's collapsing.
03:22:25.060
So anyways, um, I, I can open up to the panel if anyone wants to come in.
03:22:29.260
I mean, I just want to say, like, Elon Musk talks about this all the time.
03:22:31.920
He says, like, one of the biggest concerns on his mind is that we have population collapse
03:22:36.260
on the horizon, and it's because, it's because people aren't having enough kids to replace
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Like, birth rates are going way down, and, uh, I think that's bad.
03:22:55.000
Would you, would you, would you date, would you date him?
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There you, there you, there you, you said, you said, cause he has money.
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So he's, he sucks, but because he's rich, you would date him.
03:23:12.480
Oh, she would, she would change up everything for Elon.
03:23:21.160
Um, you look at me in disbelief as if it's not shallow.
03:23:26.340
Uh, I think, I feel like the, the nuclear family though is something.
03:23:38.420
Um, I feel like the nuclear family in the majority has been slowly deteriorating a lot.
03:23:45.520
And I think that it's, it's really unfortunate and maybe I don't see it as more of the, the
03:23:53.000
I see it more as like being able to have parents that are together and you can actually see an
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Cause if somebody decides whatever they want to be, you know, however they want to express
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But I think it's very hard and it's very rare for people to see what true love is nowadays
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And that's, that's what's really being destroyed.
03:24:13.520
And I think that's what really messes up the, the quality for everyone.
03:24:17.120
You know, at least that's, that's, that's what I personally feel for that.
03:24:24.880
Brandon, I know you want to come in on this one.
03:24:30.960
Oh, um, he's basically talking that, uh, difference preferences.
03:24:36.380
But, uh, there's a concern for population collapse due to promiscuity and it means the
03:24:49.540
Dude, express your enigmas comment right there.
03:24:56.560
If you want express, especially by telling men, they say men, women should split the check.
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I disagree with, I disagree with the last part.
03:25:15.340
Let's talk about, we're going to talk about this one real quick.
03:25:21.840
Um, but so you think the guy should pay for the first date?
03:25:37.060
I think whoever asked the person out should pay for the first date or we should split it.
03:25:41.720
Like I'm constantly, like I, whenever the guy goes to the bathroom, if I like him, I'll pay for the date.
03:25:45.900
Like as soon as like we're about to leave, he gets up, he goes to the bathroom.
03:25:54.340
If I don't like a guy, I will pay for the entire thing.
03:26:05.780
I have a take that I think a lot of men and a lot of women are going to disagree with.
03:26:11.100
We talked, I think we talked about it last show.
03:26:14.000
So first off, there's this common idea that whoever asks should pay for the date.
03:26:19.980
Fuck that because de facto men are the ones that have to ask.
03:26:24.480
So your answer might as well be the man should pay.
03:26:27.420
Whoever asks, let's be honest, men are overwhelmingly going to be the ones that have to pay.
03:26:32.820
Secondly, there's gone are the days where people were dating.
03:26:37.760
If you were going on a date with someone, you had like a genuine interest in them.
03:26:45.160
So like the chances of any one date working out is greatly diminished as compared to 10,
03:26:58.480
Like some people just go on a date and they just want a free meal.
03:27:07.000
And then kind of like my big thing is, is that related to people having so many options.
03:27:17.560
Gone are the days of people just dating one person at a time.
03:27:21.200
Similarly, gone are the days of people sleeping with just one person at a time.
03:27:25.240
So if you're going on a first date with a girl, you have to assume she's fucking at least one other guy.
03:27:30.960
You have to assume that she could be sleeping with two, three other guys.
03:27:35.140
So my thing is, I'm not going to pay for a girl if she's fucking another guy.
03:27:42.560
To me, it just make, it make me feel really bad if I paid for a girl under those circumstances.
03:27:48.380
So yeah, you do not adhere to your traditional gender roles if she does not adhere to hers.
03:27:56.060
I just feel like it's like way more likely that it's the dude that's fucking multiple people than it is the girl.
03:28:03.280
And I just don't like, if I like him, I don't care who he's fucking.
03:28:09.420
So I don't, of course, I don't have on a first date, I don't have an expectation of loyalty.
03:28:14.640
But I have to assume that she's sleeping with somebody else.
03:28:21.340
I'm a fairly monogamous person, but there's times.
03:28:26.740
But the thing is, is I don't have the expectation that she's going to pay for me on the date.
03:28:36.660
You said you don't want a promiscuous woman, but you also said that you're fairly monogamous.
03:28:43.080
I don't think that's a, I don't think that's hypocrisy.
03:28:47.100
Not, well, it's a justified double standard, I'll say that, but I'm not.
03:28:55.900
Like, if I'm dating a girl, I want to pursue that.
03:28:59.700
See, these guys that just want to run through a bunch of chicks, to me, that's weird.
03:29:04.440
Like, if I see a girl, and if I sleep with a girl, I want to pursue it.
03:29:12.960
I'm not, there's this Sir Mix-a-Lot song, Baby Got Back, maybe you guys have heard it.
03:29:21.820
If I hook up with a girl, I want to continue seeing her.
03:29:35.100
Because someone made a comment, and I was like, no, I'm passionate about this one.
03:29:42.960
If I like a girl, I want to pay for the first date.
03:29:46.900
However, like what Brian was saying, if it's going to be like me, the man, paying for the first date, I expect the woman to stay in a womanly role, right?
03:29:56.460
Tip for all the fellas out there, if you think a girl is a handful, and if you think she's a stuck-up princess, ask her if she's willing to split the bill with you.
03:30:04.640
And if she throws a fit over it, you know you've got a lot on your hands with that one.
03:30:14.080
And then I'll just pay for the whole thing and just not talk to her.
03:30:23.280
Because I feel like it's a respectful thing to do.
03:30:31.920
So he's giving you, but what you're giving, he's giving you his time too.
03:30:42.680
Why can't I want to go into the, why can't I, why can't I like feeling pursued?
03:30:48.100
She wants him to pay because she likes the traditional gender roles, right?
03:30:52.480
Well, I guess, I guess if you want to put it that way, yeah.
03:30:57.520
If you want equality, you have to have it in all realms.
03:31:02.000
You don't get to pick and choose what, what things you like and what you dislike.
03:31:06.240
If you have a relationship with somebody and that's been established and it comes to like financials, that's a different thing.
03:31:11.020
But if you're asking me on a date for the first time and you ask me on the date and you plan where we're going and you decide to go to this really nice restaurant and you don't ask me my tax bracket, you don't ask me all those questions.
03:31:21.580
These are a lot of other things that go through my mind.
03:31:23.780
Maybe I'm not going to splurge that out right now because like obviously I'm trying to do it like more.
03:31:28.520
First off, if a guy, if a guy on the first date takes a girl somewhere extremely expensive, you're an idiot.
03:31:35.820
Yeah, if you're taking a girl somewhere very expensive, then yeah, you should probably pay under those circumstances.
03:31:42.120
But like in any scenario, if a guy's taking you for tacos, you still want him to, you still want him to pay?
03:31:52.840
I just, I don't see why you have to get into more dissecting it.
03:32:03.320
It's super, also to me, I look at it as my fact, like, you know, I'm taking time out of my day to go on a date with you, right?
03:32:09.240
The amount of money that I have to put on my face for my makeup, to do my hair, to wear these, wear my heels, to wear my dress, and like put all of this effort in it to make sure that I look nice.
03:32:19.740
And it's not like I'm, yes, I am looking nice for myself.
03:32:28.620
Well, I guess women don't have beards, but we have to shave our facial hair.
03:32:33.720
I'm feeling like I'm getting off track on this point.
03:32:37.600
And then, I mean, let me ask, do you want a guy who can protect you?
03:32:42.700
Do you want, do you want a guy who's capable of protecting you?
03:32:59.960
She never said, she never said she wants some like feminist equality relationship though.
03:33:03.800
Like if, if this, if it was like a different girl who had said she wants some like super
03:33:07.480
feminist equality relationship, but she also demands the guy pay on the first date, then
03:33:19.900
But why, why, if you actually, like if, depending on which, which religion you are, but in Christianity,
03:33:26.420
if you actually look at it, there is an equality between a husband and a wife.
03:33:29.940
There's certain roles that they're supposed to fill, but they're an equality for each
03:33:34.100
Do you believe that the man should be the leader in the household?
03:33:39.180
And you're, when you're, I feel like when you're married, yeah.
03:33:45.260
Um, I don't know how I feel about that just yet.
03:33:48.820
But on the first date, there's an expectation that he provide and pay for the date.
03:33:55.920
I don't feel like we need to overcome, but it's, that's all it is.
03:34:02.840
She believes, she believes we're equal, but she also likes the tradition, right?
03:34:06.420
But why does the guy have to adhere to his traditional gender roles, but you don't
03:34:09.840
have to adhere to your traditional gender roles?
03:34:14.560
I'm going to move on to the next person that will.
03:34:38.100
If you guys can just hang for another five minutes.
03:34:47.080
Brandon, get me tattooed, Brandon, Daddy, please.
03:34:51.080
Mike Davis, Mike Davis with the $20 super chat.
03:34:57.660
Brandon, do you have anything you want to say to Mike Davis?
03:35:16.440
No, I think I'm pretty down to earth for the most part.
03:35:26.160
Do you guys have time to quickly watch a little fun, fun little video to kind of end things
03:35:34.120
Chris, can you pull up the Patrice O'Neill clip, and then we will end it there.
03:35:39.180
It's about to be hella polarizing right before we end.
03:35:59.140
If you didn't have a vagina, like say it was a terrible train accident, right?
03:36:05.420
And the doctor was like, we have to remove your pussy right away, or you're going to die.
03:36:11.660
How would you keep your man past, you get a two-month guilty, I can't leave the bitch
03:36:21.040
right away because she just lost the pussy to the train accident.
03:36:28.860
How would you keep your man past that, if you didn't have a vagina?
03:36:54.300
How would I keep a man if I didn't have a vagina?
03:36:57.000
Okay, if you lost your, you know, how would you keep your man?
03:37:05.120
Let's, sorry, we got a bus or some shit going by.
03:37:14.580
I would just like, I mean, I guess like the only way I would make up for that in like
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oral or something, but then just do everything else the same, but we just can't have sex,
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and I would just do it, I would please him in other ways.
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Yeah, I would definitely just like do everything else that I can like physically, but like,
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I would still be like, whoever I'm with is going to be like my fucking, like, if I get
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married, they're going to be my best friend, like, you're going to be my dog, like, we're
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going to do everything together, like, that's not going to stop, that's not going to change.
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Now, I've been getting pussybeating the whole show, right?
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But I give women the opportunity to say, I'm going to make myself worth more.
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But you just classified yourself as a series of holes, but, you know, I'm supposed to treat
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you special, but you're just a bunch of holes to yourself.
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No one said learn how to play Xbox, learn how to play pool, tell better stories, get
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I just think it's funny how everyone's calling me wifey material when my body count is hot.
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Anyways, guys, I think we're going to wrap up there.
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You could have been doing anything else, but you're here with me.
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We will be live again Tuesday at 7 p.m. with our next dating talk show.
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I want to thank the wonderful panel for coming in.
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Thank you to you guys, the viewers, for watching.