Whatever Podcast - Dating Talk #25

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00:02:01.720 Okay.

00:02:02.100 So we have got channel memberships.

00:02:04.040 Eric, if you can just pull that up.

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00:02:38.040 Also, please support my nonprofit organization, the American Network Against Labia Plasty,

00:02:44.440 or anal for short. 0.71

00:02:47.500 Luke's actually becoming a board member. 0.99

00:02:49.520 We empower women who may feel self-conscious or insecure about their labia.

00:02:53.620 It's really the pressing issue of our time.

00:02:57.540 You know, it's unfortunate, right, Luke?

00:03:00.020 Yes, it is.

00:03:00.980 Definitely an unfortunate event.

00:03:02.320 That, you know, some women, they get shamed if they have a large labia to the point that 1.00

00:03:05.600 they consider undergoing a dangerous and unnecessary surgery.

00:03:09.340 DM me at whatever.

00:03:10.420 I will talk you out of getting a labia placed.

00:03:12.500 Labia placedy. 0.98

00:03:14.060 Can we get some hashtag all labia matter in the chat?

00:03:17.340 And lastly, if you want to be on the show, Eric, if you just push it over to the Instagram,

00:03:21.900 if you want to be on the show or help with the show, DM at whatever on Instagram.

00:03:25.580 We need help with timestamps and stuff like that.

00:03:27.840 So, yeah, Eric, if you can bring it back center.

00:03:29.980 So, last thing, as you guys know, I'm a philanthropist.

00:03:34.200 So, if you go to Santa Barbara City College or UCSB and you received any party-related fines

00:03:38.380 like open container of alcohol, MIP, maybe you're throwing a party and got an amplified

00:03:42.940 noise citation.

00:03:44.640 We recently had a girl that was on the panel. 0.97

00:03:48.480 I'm not going to name her name, but she was arrested for something alcohol-related. 0.99

00:03:53.160 So, maybe she should DM us. 1.00

00:03:54.520 But DM your citation to atwhatever on Instagram and you may be selected to have your fine

00:03:58.840 paid for in full by me.

00:04:01.340 Without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.

00:04:05.200 So, please tell us your name, age, occupation, and or school major.

00:04:09.880 I'm Jasmine.

00:04:11.140 I'm 20 and I'm currently majoring in econ.

00:04:14.540 Scoot the microphone just that way a bit and tilt it up.

00:04:17.920 Was I not close enough?

00:04:19.160 No, you're good.

00:04:19.660 You're good.

00:04:19.980 Just tilt it up a little bit.

00:04:21.520 This way?

00:04:22.320 Perfect.

00:04:22.660 I am Cheyenne.

00:04:25.800 I'm 21 years old and I am studying communications.

00:04:30.840 I'm Tara.

00:04:32.240 I'm 21.

00:04:33.500 I'm a fourth year at UCSB and I study philosophy and psychology.

00:04:38.080 My name's Allie.

00:04:39.720 I'm going to be 25 on Tuesday and I'm a promoter.

00:04:43.360 I'm Ella.

00:04:44.460 I'm 19 and my major is business.

00:04:48.100 I'm Izzy.

00:04:48.960 I'm 18 and I major in nursing.

00:04:51.240 What's your name?

00:04:52.400 I'm Luke.

00:04:53.180 I'm 19 and I'm majoring in film production.

00:04:56.980 And did you guys mention which school you guys go to over here?

00:05:01.580 Oh, SPCC.

00:05:03.660 I go to CC.

00:05:05.120 I also go to CC.

00:05:06.500 Okay.

00:05:06.800 And you're from Sweden, right, Ella?

00:05:08.860 Yes.

00:05:09.360 Okay.

00:05:10.140 And Stockholm?

00:05:11.960 No, I'm actually more like South, like Malmo.

00:05:15.520 Okay, Malmo.

00:05:16.280 Yeah.

00:05:16.520 I've heard of it.

00:05:17.580 Okay.

00:05:18.200 Yeah.

00:05:18.480 There's a lot of international students at Santa Barbara City College.

00:05:22.200 A lot of Swedish.

00:05:23.500 A lot of Swedish people.

00:05:24.700 So welcome.

00:05:25.080 I actually haven't met like one person that's Swedish.

00:05:27.860 You haven't?

00:05:28.580 No, not yet.

00:05:30.240 And you, what?

00:05:31.220 Yeah.

00:05:31.640 I don't know.

00:05:32.300 Maybe times have changed.

00:05:33.500 I don't know.

00:05:33.900 But I remember back in the day, the Swedish girls were running wild. 1.00

00:05:37.900 Okay.

00:05:38.260 So you three go to UCSB, correct?

00:05:43.660 No.

00:05:44.040 CC?

00:05:44.980 UCSB.

00:05:45.420 UCSB, UCSB.

00:05:46.380 Yeah.

00:05:46.660 Are either of you in a sorority?

00:05:48.880 I'm in Pi-Fi.

00:05:50.640 Pi-Fi?

00:05:51.140 Yeah.

00:05:51.860 Is that?

00:05:52.980 That's a good one, right?

00:05:54.720 Well, of course, you're not going to say it's a bad one.

00:05:57.080 I mean, it's not a bad one. 1.00

00:05:58.520 I think it's a bunch of bad bitches. 1.00

00:06:00.080 So I don't know. 0.99

00:06:00.220 Okay.

00:06:00.800 There you go.

00:06:01.460 Rock and roll. 1.00

00:06:02.060 I like bad bitches. 1.00

00:06:02.780 Rock and roll. 1.00

00:06:03.380 Cool.

00:06:03.720 Well, welcome.

00:06:04.540 And so you two go to UCSB.

00:06:06.560 You're CC.

00:06:07.500 Wait.

00:06:07.980 I'm now at CSU Long Beach.

00:06:09.720 I'm moving soon.

00:06:10.400 You're leaving?

00:06:11.160 I'm leaving.

00:06:12.080 Wow.

00:06:12.780 Rip.

00:06:13.480 Can we get some...

00:06:14.340 Rip in the chat.

00:06:15.120 Can we get a candle vigil for Cheyenne in the chat since she's going to an inferior school? 0.99

00:06:21.800 Inferior.

00:06:22.360 Where are you?

00:06:22.920 You're transferring from where?

00:06:24.560 CC.

00:06:25.200 Oh, CC?

00:06:25.900 So, not anywhere.

00:06:26.680 You didn't get into UCSB?

00:06:27.900 I didn't really try.

00:06:29.900 I'm pursuing other things.

00:06:31.520 Okay.

00:06:32.280 Got it.

00:06:33.040 We'll see.

00:06:34.100 So you two go to UCSB then.

00:06:35.820 Mm-hmm.

00:06:36.320 Do you guys look down on guys who go to Santa Barbara City College?

00:06:42.660 I'm a transfer.

00:06:44.320 So, no.

00:06:45.160 So, yes?

00:06:46.020 So, no.

00:06:47.260 Okay.

00:06:47.720 So my first year, I went to UC Santa Cruz, and then I transferred to a CC back in Santa

00:06:52.340 Monica, but, like, I wouldn't look down on them.

00:06:56.700 I look up.

00:06:57.280 I look up at CC guys.

00:06:59.340 I look up at CC guys.

00:07:00.900 I feel like they're, like, just more fun, more social.

00:07:05.600 Like, if you get into UCSB, not that, like, you know, like, intelligence correlates to

00:07:10.400 how fun you are, or even, like, that UCSB correlates with intelligence, but just that,

00:07:14.060 like, you know, CC guys just tend to be, like, more, like, fun, social.

00:07:18.260 Yeah.

00:07:18.640 I look, I definitely don't look down on them.

00:07:20.220 I think they're, like, that's, like, maybe a plus.

00:07:22.540 Not for, like, long-term, maybe, but, like, short-term, for sure.

00:07:26.400 Okay.

00:07:27.000 Got it.

00:07:27.540 Okay.

00:07:29.620 Well, we have one SBCC lad at the table, so there we go.

00:07:34.500 And so everyone's Instagrams are in the description.

00:07:38.240 Show them some love.

00:07:39.000 Give them a follow.

00:07:40.180 So going around the table again, current relationship status, longest relationship, and are you on

00:07:45.800 a dating app?

00:07:46.720 That includes seeking arrangements.

00:07:51.140 I'm single.

00:07:52.060 I, my longest relationship was, like, two years.

00:07:55.180 I just got out of a relationship, so, like, recently single, and no dating apps for me.

00:08:00.320 I feel like it just doesn't work.

00:08:01.980 Like, it's just, DM me, like, you know, why am I going to go on Tinder, so.

00:08:06.460 You said recently single.

00:08:08.500 Yeah.

00:08:08.940 How recent are we talking here?

00:08:11.700 Well, like, we broke up in March, but then, like, I, he actually goes here.

00:08:16.640 Um, so I recently saw him, and, like, we got back together, like, a few months ago, but

00:08:22.500 then didn't really, like, work out, so.

00:08:24.740 Saw him recently, and, yeah, so.

00:08:28.160 So, this weekend?

00:08:30.200 Like, last weekend. 0.92

00:08:31.180 Damn near. 0.84

00:08:32.540 Okay, so it's on again, off again, kind of. 0.96

00:08:34.560 No, like, I, like, completely was, like.

00:08:36.600 Canceled.

00:08:37.000 Yeah, canceled, like, cut, like, never want to see you again, like, saw him in the class,

00:08:41.820 was, like, I need to get out of here, like, yeah.

00:08:45.040 Yeah.

00:08:45.780 As of last weekend.

00:08:47.500 And blocked on everything.

00:08:48.020 He blocked you?

00:08:49.200 Yeah.

00:08:49.540 Why did he dump you?

00:08:51.040 He didn't dump me, I dumped him.

00:08:52.180 You dumped him?

00:08:52.880 It was kind of, like, mutual, I would say, but, like.

00:08:54.940 Yeah.

00:08:55.340 Why did you, why did you guys break up?

00:08:58.540 I, God, I hope he's, like, not.

00:09:00.940 Actually, I'm blocked, so he doesn't know about this, but.

00:09:03.880 But, um, I just feel like I wasn't being treated right, so, like, I had to leave, and then,

00:09:08.580 like, recently I was, like, oh, like, we should get back together.

00:09:11.640 He was, like, no, like, I don't want to, like.

00:09:13.440 Like, I have, like, a following on social media.

00:09:15.660 He told me that was, like, one of the issues of, like, why, like, we couldn't be together,

00:09:18.720 and then, like, I drunk called him, and that's how I got blocked, so.

00:09:24.200 But for the best.

00:09:25.380 For the best.

00:09:26.360 So his main issue with, with you was that you have social media.

00:09:32.480 He told me that I would, like, flaunt my DMs or be, like, like, I don't know.

00:09:36.440 Like, he just, I feel like he was jealous.

00:09:37.980 How would you flaunt your DMs?

00:09:39.400 Like, some, like, people would, like, DM me and be, like, oh, my God, like, this person DMed me,

00:09:43.340 like, whatever, and, like, he took it as, like, flaunting, but, like, I would never, like.

00:09:46.600 Like, you would tell him so-and-so DMed me.

00:09:48.880 Yeah, like, I feel like.

00:09:49.840 Who DMed you? 1.00

00:09:51.080 The game.

00:09:52.120 The game?

00:09:53.320 The game.

00:09:53.440 Like, the, uh, wouldn't get far guy?

00:09:56.100 No, like, the rappers.

00:09:57.620 Yeah, yeah, yeah, the game.

00:09:58.840 Wouldn't get far.

00:09:59.580 Yeah, the game.

00:10:00.120 The game, and just, like, other, like, people, like, I don't even really, like, no, that's just,

00:10:04.300 like, going off the top of my head.

00:10:05.960 Any other blue check marks that slid into your DMs?

00:10:09.160 Oh, like, Ricegum has slid in.

00:10:11.140 Ricegum.

00:10:11.840 Oh, man.

00:10:13.400 But none of them, like, really, like, work out, because, like, I guess I, like, say things

00:10:17.020 wrong.

00:10:17.500 Wait.

00:10:18.040 I just, I don't know.

00:10:18.660 Sorry, go ahead.

00:10:19.740 Were any other notable people that DMed you?

00:10:23.520 There probably is.

00:10:24.620 I just can't, like.

00:10:25.560 Any athletes?

00:10:27.460 Musicians?

00:10:27.980 I mean, yeah, there's, like, there's some athletes, but no one that's, like, super big.

00:10:31.560 Like, or no one that's, like.

00:10:32.600 Okay.

00:10:32.920 It's sounding a little bit, like, pretentious, but, like, I promise you.

00:10:36.200 Sure, sure.

00:10:36.900 So Ricegum and the game.

00:10:39.200 Do you remember what their opening line was?

00:10:42.140 The game just sent me the two eye emojis.

00:10:45.060 That's it.

00:10:45.480 And you know what's hilarious is that I was, like, so I make music, and I was working with

00:10:48.280 this producer at the time.

00:10:49.360 Okay.

00:10:49.980 And I was, like, oh, yeah, this guy named, like, the game DMed me.

00:10:52.240 He was, like, Jasmine, do you know who that is?

00:10:54.300 I was, like, no.

00:10:55.380 Like, who's the game?

00:10:56.320 He was, like, this is, like, one of the biggest, like, rappers ever.

00:10:58.900 And I was, like, oh, should I, like, respond back?

00:11:00.580 He's, like, yes, you need to respond back.

00:11:02.540 And I was, like, okay.

00:11:03.740 But, like.

00:11:04.040 So did you?

00:11:05.100 I did.

00:11:05.640 But, like, he was just, like, it was, like, a few, like, streams.

00:11:08.140 And then I usually don't, like, expect much from them.

00:11:10.580 Like, I don't even know, like, why they signed into my DMs.

00:11:12.740 Did you guys meet up?

00:11:14.420 No.

00:11:14.860 Like, they just, like, that's what I'm saying most of the time is, like, when these blue

00:11:17.760 checkmark guys DM me, like, I respond.

00:11:20.580 I don't know.

00:11:20.980 I guess maybe I say something wrong or, like, whatever.

00:11:23.160 But it never, like, really goes far.

00:11:25.280 Can you pull it up on your phone right now?

00:11:26.960 Can we see?

00:11:27.660 Is that too much?

00:11:28.540 I'm super curious.

00:11:29.900 I want receipt.

00:11:31.020 Wait.

00:11:31.520 Don't show the camera, though.

00:11:32.960 Don't put it on the camera.

00:11:35.200 Okay.

00:11:37.500 Oh, yeah.

00:11:38.240 I'm not lying.

00:11:39.760 No, I believe you.

00:11:41.320 I'm just curious.

00:11:42.380 Wait, what's his app called?

00:11:44.260 The Game.

00:11:44.980 The Game.

00:11:45.560 Isn't The Game, like, 40?

00:11:47.100 Yeah.

00:11:47.600 Hey, don't shame.

00:11:48.620 Let's not age shame.

00:11:50.500 The Game.

00:11:51.800 No.

00:11:53.020 He's a talented musician.

00:11:54.720 He's probably going to watch this at some point.

00:11:56.660 Rip.

00:11:57.500 Exposed.

00:11:59.360 Oh.

00:11:59.900 Secretly pass it over to me somehow.

00:12:04.400 Yeah, like, he said somehow.

00:12:05.820 Brian wants to see RiceGum de-pick.

00:12:09.720 Oh, that's just the chats.

00:12:12.340 I'm trying to, like, find it, but...

00:12:14.520 You know what?

00:12:15.220 You want to just show...

00:12:16.200 You can show it to me after the show.

00:12:17.960 Okay, okay.

00:12:18.480 Oh, wait.

00:12:19.420 Yeah.

00:12:23.660 Screenshots immediately.

00:12:25.540 13 million followers.

00:12:30.460 Wait, yo, you got to screenshot this before he deletes it.

00:12:33.120 No, no.

00:12:34.180 He's going to delete this.

00:12:35.820 I'll screenshot it for you.

00:12:37.540 Oh, my God.

00:12:39.800 I don't know.

00:12:40.260 The Game don't really got game.

00:12:41.460 That's what I'm going to...

00:12:43.040 Don't.

00:12:44.140 I'm kidding.

00:12:44.820 I'm kidding.

00:12:45.240 I'm sure you got game.

00:12:45.920 I'm not in a relationship.

00:12:47.260 The chat says I'm in a relationship.

00:12:48.480 I'm single.

00:12:49.720 How would they know?

00:12:50.340 Okay, so, eye emoji.

00:12:52.240 You returned the eye emoji.

00:12:54.040 How are you?

00:12:55.680 Should I just...

00:12:56.400 Can I just show it?

00:12:57.480 I don't know.

00:12:58.280 I just don't...

00:12:59.180 Like, I don't want to, like...

00:13:00.460 I've somehow convinced you into doing this.

00:13:05.580 I mean, it's very tame.

00:13:06.760 You just say, I'm good.

00:13:08.620 And then, how are you?

00:13:09.440 And then, that's the end of the conversation.

00:13:10.880 Yeah, like, it's pretty, like, yeah.

00:13:12.380 So, I guess...

00:13:13.760 Wow.

00:13:16.000 Surprised you...

00:13:16.580 Okay, well.

00:13:17.980 Can I show it to the screen?

00:13:20.340 I don't know.

00:13:21.360 The chat's, like, flaming me.

00:13:23.420 The chat's saying that, like...

00:13:24.680 Do I show it?

00:13:27.880 Chat.

00:13:28.420 Okay, one in the chat if I show the DMs.

00:13:32.520 Or is this borderline inappropriate?

00:13:35.560 It's not inappropriate.

00:13:36.620 I just feel bad for the game.

00:13:42.260 That's a lot of ones.

00:13:43.620 Yeah.

00:13:43.900 That's a lot of ones.

00:13:46.200 It's very tame.

00:13:47.500 Like, I mean...

00:13:48.580 I don't know how I'm gonna...

00:13:51.480 Well...

00:13:51.920 Yeah.

00:13:54.680 Can you actually, like, see?

00:13:56.500 Yeah.

00:13:57.080 Oops.

00:13:57.600 Oh.

00:13:57.940 You were to...

00:13:59.120 Oh, wait.

00:13:59.780 There's more. 1.00

00:14:00.280 Holy shit. 0.99

00:14:00.680 I didn't even scroll down. 0.99

00:14:01.540 Okay.

00:14:01.660 Oh, no.

00:14:03.000 Like, don't show...

00:14:03.860 Or, like, I didn't say anything bad.

00:14:05.180 Like, I don't mind what you show.

00:14:06.060 He said there's more.

00:14:08.660 Like, yeah, that's what I'm saying.

00:14:09.740 Like, don't show up for him.

00:14:11.040 Like, I don't care about me.

00:14:12.100 But, like, he probably was just, like, bored and, like...

00:14:15.380 They said the bloods might pull up.

00:14:16.940 I'm dead.

00:14:20.320 Okay.

00:14:21.240 Luke, do you think...

00:14:22.040 What do you think?

00:14:22.820 I think it's pretty tame.

00:14:23.940 It's not that bad.

00:14:24.500 It's really...

00:14:25.100 There's nothing terrible.

00:14:26.260 It's not...

00:14:26.300 It's just, like, very casual.

00:14:28.180 Very casual conversation.

00:14:30.480 So, yeah.

00:14:31.720 I mean, you guys exchange, like, pleasantries.

00:14:33.840 But it doesn't really go anywhere further.

00:14:36.480 Yeah.

00:14:36.500 I'm, like...

00:14:36.720 I'm polite.

00:14:37.540 Like, or, like, it's a very polite conversation.

00:14:39.780 Like, nothing to it.

00:14:41.620 Okay.

00:14:41.900 So, RiceGum, same thing.

00:14:44.200 You know what's so weird?

00:14:44.900 The way RiceGum DMed me was, like, a fake account.

00:14:47.360 Or, like, a random account with, like, two followers DMed me being, like,

00:14:49.780 Yo, RiceGum wants you. 0.99

00:14:50.840 Like, he actually wanted to possibly have me, like, on a Twitch or something.

00:14:54.280 And I was, like...

00:14:54.820 I was, like, this isn't...

00:14:55.420 Oh, yeah.

00:14:55.440 He does, like, a dating thing.

00:14:56.820 I was, like, this isn't real.

00:14:57.860 I was, like, who are you? 0.98

00:14:58.820 Like, I was just, like, fucking around messaging this guy back. 0.99

00:15:01.120 And then I get the DM from, like, RiceGum. 0.99

00:15:03.100 And I was, like, what the hell?

00:15:04.260 But then I think I said, like...

00:15:06.000 Maybe I said I was, like, 18 or something.

00:15:07.620 Or, like, I was 18 at the time.

00:15:08.820 So, like...

00:15:09.720 I guess I said something wrong.

00:15:11.020 Because then he, like, just didn't respond to me.

00:15:13.120 So...

00:15:13.280 Huh.

00:15:14.000 Yeah.

00:15:15.080 Okay.

00:15:16.160 Yeah.

00:15:16.480 So, he DM'd you, though, to, like, invite you on to his show or whatever.

00:15:21.000 I think that was, like, the intention.

00:15:22.780 Like, I could show it.

00:15:23.800 Like, I could show you after.

00:15:25.460 Because, like, it was, like, a long time ago.

00:15:27.520 Yeah.

00:15:27.660 So, like, that one was pretty recent.

00:15:29.620 But he wasn't, like, sliding into your DMs.

00:15:31.860 It wasn't, like, a romantic...

00:15:34.380 He wasn't shooting a shot.

00:15:35.660 Honestly, I don't even know these.

00:15:36.900 Like, so I make music, right?

00:15:38.160 Yeah.

00:15:38.320 So, a lot of producers, like, slide in or whatever.

00:15:41.180 And, like, usually I think they want to work with music.

00:15:43.240 But then, really, they don't.

00:15:44.780 So, it's...

00:15:46.100 Yeah, they're probably...

00:15:47.600 You can never tell someone's intentions, honestly.

00:15:51.200 So, it's really hard to tell.

00:15:53.560 But I would say, like, that's what he said.

00:15:55.780 Like, and usually, like, even, like...

00:15:58.080 I don't even know, like, how to read people's intentions these days.

00:16:01.140 Like...

00:16:01.660 I've heard that a lot from, like, women in the music industry. 1.00

00:16:04.560 That a lot of the guys that maybe are a little further along in their career.

00:16:08.240 They'll say, hey, let's work together.

00:16:10.540 Let's collab.

00:16:11.240 But it's...

00:16:12.060 They're actually really trying to get at you.

00:16:13.480 It's happened, like, multiple times to me.

00:16:16.100 Honestly.

00:16:16.800 And, like, no. 0.98

00:16:17.500 It, like, kind of sucks. 0.89

00:16:18.700 Like, I had this one really cool producer. 0.95

00:16:20.560 And I worked with him.

00:16:21.920 He was really sweet.

00:16:22.640 And then, he messaged me at, like, 12 a.m.

00:16:25.460 Being like, oh, do you want to come to the studio right now?

00:16:27.280 And I was like, no.

00:16:28.800 I don't.

00:16:29.600 It's 12 a.m.

00:16:30.500 Like, what are your intentions?

00:16:32.360 You know?

00:16:33.300 Yeah.

00:16:33.620 Yeah.

00:16:33.680 It's really similar with, like, the modeling industry type thing.

00:16:37.220 When there's photographers that are like, oh, I want to shoot with you.

00:16:39.880 And then you look at their account and it's, like, almost always, like, nude women or, like, lingerie and bikini shoots.

00:16:46.240 And it's like, hmm, I don't really, like, need that.

00:16:49.660 And it's a lot of guys using, like, their platform sometimes to kind of abuse that in a way. 0.95

00:16:54.560 Which sucks.

00:16:55.240 But, like, us as girls, we kind of just have to get used to it and know, like, who's legit or not. 0.86

00:17:00.320 Do you have a hickey, by the way?

00:17:02.020 Why would you say that on this podcast, Brian?

00:17:05.320 I mean, I was just.

00:17:06.660 What?

00:17:06.980 I play softball and I got a bad grounder.

00:17:10.540 Okay.

00:17:11.520 Okay.

00:17:12.700 Moving on.

00:17:14.360 So, I mean, it appears you try to cover it up a little bit.

00:17:17.460 But my vision is too good.

00:17:19.360 I see right through your.

00:17:20.560 Yeah.

00:17:20.960 Probably, like, five layers of different concealers.

00:17:25.240 You tried.

00:17:26.500 An attempt was made.

00:17:27.440 I was really hoping to make it through this podcast without you mentioning it.

00:17:31.040 But you just had to.

00:17:32.260 I caught it.

00:17:32.680 Like, a few minutes in.

00:17:33.600 I caught it. 1.00

00:17:33.800 Damn. 1.00

00:17:34.100 Yeah. 1.00

00:17:34.420 Okay, well, yeah.

00:17:35.080 Your Ninja Turtle costume doesn't.

00:17:37.120 It was not enough distraction.

00:17:38.980 Doesn't distract me.

00:17:39.760 That's why I'm dressed this way, by the way.

00:17:41.240 Yeah.

00:17:41.900 I see.

00:17:43.000 I see.

00:17:43.800 But, okay.

00:17:44.260 Yeah, that's wild.

00:17:44.900 So, but, okay.

00:17:46.460 Drake DMs you.

00:17:48.640 You're going to.

00:17:49.480 Dude, I would always joke about that because I actually love Drake.

00:17:52.500 Like, I love Drake.

00:17:54.180 Like, he has such good music.

00:17:55.460 Like, if Drake.

00:17:56.180 No, like, I would never, like, do anything like that.

00:17:57.800 But, like, Drake has, like, a weak spot for me.

00:18:00.700 Like, I would.

00:18:02.300 Drake's just cool.

00:18:03.120 Like, I like Drake.

00:18:04.600 No, but so he DMs you and you know he's, like, trying to get at you.

00:18:08.680 Like, what would I do?

00:18:09.900 Yeah, what do you do?

00:18:11.940 See, I don't know.

00:18:12.840 Like, I really feel like I have to get to know someone before.

00:18:15.740 But also.

00:18:16.260 Drake, though?

00:18:17.120 No.

00:18:17.600 Drake, it's hey daddy.

00:18:19.200 Drake is just different.

00:18:19.980 But also, like, you know how Drake, like, I don't remember that, like, there was, like,

00:18:24.160 a basketball player and, like, he kept taking out his mom on date.

00:18:26.960 Do you know who I'm talking about?

00:18:28.440 Does anybody?

00:18:29.580 A basketball player.

00:18:30.880 It was, like, this basketball player and, like, Drake, like, kept taking out his mom.

00:18:34.120 Like, he took her.

00:18:34.920 He rented out, like, the whole Dodger Stadium for her.

00:18:37.580 For dinner, yeah.

00:18:38.620 Honestly, also, like, guys that are, like, at that, like, level, I feel like they would

00:18:43.620 take you out on a date, though.

00:18:44.920 You know?

00:18:46.020 They have enough money to do it.

00:18:47.680 Brian, don't you know Drake's that lover boy?

00:18:49.580 Yeah, exactly.

00:18:50.700 Certified lover boy.

00:18:51.360 Right?

00:18:52.420 I guess so.

00:18:53.460 Yeah, I mean, maybe he'll DM you after the show.

00:18:56.900 Okay, so, moving on.

00:18:58.720 By the way, so, seeking arrangements.

00:19:00.400 You said no dating apps, no seeking arrangements.

00:19:03.240 No, like, it's just, I just don't like doing things for people that I don't really know.

00:19:08.720 Like, that.

00:19:09.160 Like, that's just a personal preference for me.

00:19:11.280 So, ever had a sugar daddy or anything?

00:19:13.320 No, but my friends have sugar daddies. 0.99

00:19:15.800 We'll have to get her on the show. 1.00

00:19:17.680 It's actually a him.

00:19:18.760 Oh, he, oh, okay.

00:19:21.060 Yeah.

00:19:21.400 I see, I see.

00:19:22.840 So, current relationship, longest relationship, and are you on a dating app?

00:19:27.960 That includes seeking arrangements.

00:19:30.740 Single.

00:19:32.360 Longest relationship was about a year.

00:19:34.640 And, on and off with dating apps.

00:19:39.540 But, I have had seeking arrangements in the past.

00:19:42.560 Did not follow through with anything, unfortunately.

00:19:45.460 And, so, wait.

00:19:49.380 You're single.

00:19:50.620 You said, how, longest relationship was what again?

00:19:53.840 About a year.

00:19:54.980 And, how long have you been single?

00:19:59.520 Probably since, like, beginning of college.

00:20:01.920 Yeah.

00:20:02.240 So, about four years now.

00:20:03.980 Well, you've been single for four years.

00:20:05.680 Yes.

00:20:06.020 But, your longest relationship was one year.

00:20:08.360 About a year.

00:20:08.620 So, it was, like, high school or something?

00:20:09.920 It was, like, my end of high school going into college that year.

00:20:14.760 How do you get this hickey, though, if you're single?

00:20:18.960 Danger.

00:20:19.360 I, like, I like to hang out with people every now and then.

00:20:27.640 See where it goes.

00:20:28.920 You know?

00:20:29.340 Where did it go?

00:20:30.840 Got me a hickey, I guess. 0.99

00:20:33.540 This sucks. 0.99

00:20:35.960 Go ahead. 0.98

00:20:38.220 I'm recently single.

00:20:41.600 My longest relationship was a year.

00:20:43.980 That was the one I was just in.

00:20:45.740 And, I don't use dating apps.

00:20:48.860 I, like, just, like, meet people naturally.

00:20:51.140 And, I've never used seeking arrangements.

00:20:54.400 Because, why would I, like, why would I, like, get with, like, a rich guy who's, like, ugly and, like, can't pull money?

00:21:07.900 When I could just get with, like, a handsome rich guy I'm into, like, in real life?

00:21:13.100 Mm-hmm.

00:21:14.420 Do you, so you currently have those opportunities to get with a handsome rich guy?

00:21:20.340 Yes.

00:21:23.200 You're meeting them at the frat party or where are you?

00:21:25.520 No, no.

00:21:26.360 I've, like, never, I've, like, really never associated or, like, been into frat guys.

00:21:30.420 But, you're in a sorority, right?

00:21:31.640 So, I mean, isn't, there is some degree of, like, don't you have to go to the parties or whatever?

00:21:38.040 I have never, there's been, like, one guy, like, ever who was in a frat that I, like, hung out with.

00:21:47.200 Okay.

00:21:48.480 Ever, yeah.

00:21:49.880 Got it.

00:21:50.180 I'm, like, repelled.

00:21:51.020 I, like, trained myself.

00:21:52.040 I'm, like, smart enough to, like, I literally trained myself to be, like, repulsed by frat guys.

00:21:57.420 Because, I don't know, I was, like, they're bad news.

00:22:00.040 Why?

00:22:01.000 I don't know.

00:22:01.600 I just, not that there's any, I just, you know.

00:22:04.580 Do you want to take shots in any particular frat?

00:22:07.920 Um, no. 0.98

00:22:09.980 They're all equally awful.

00:22:11.560 No, I'm just kidding.

00:22:12.260 All equally awful.

00:22:12.940 No, no, no, no.

00:22:13.540 I support Greek life.

00:22:14.460 Yeah, go panelist. 0.99

00:22:15.540 I don't know.

00:22:16.120 Like, it's, it's, like, yeah, no.

00:22:18.520 It's not, like, because they're in a frat.

00:22:19.700 It's just, like, in general, I don't really, like, mesh well with, like, guys my age anyways.

00:22:24.140 I'm just, like, I don't know, an older soul. 0.98

00:22:26.540 So, it's just, like, guys that are older have their shit together. 0.96

00:22:29.580 Like, we're, like, intellectual equals. 0.98

00:22:31.820 Okay.

00:22:32.360 And, yeah, and just, yeah, I don't know.

00:22:35.280 Frats is just, like, bad news.

00:22:36.260 Like, if I was a guy and I was in a frat, I would probably, like, it's, like, why would I put myself through that obstacle of, like, all that?

00:22:44.740 I don't know.

00:22:45.200 It's just, like, difficult.

00:22:46.240 I don't know.

00:22:46.860 Like, loyalty issues.

00:22:48.140 Like, I understand the part of the guy that would be, like, difficult.

00:22:50.580 So, like, just not the right, like, time.

00:22:52.760 So, you said you prefer dating older guys?

00:22:55.440 Or what?

00:22:56.140 Yeah.

00:22:56.360 So, you said you recently got out of a situation.

00:22:59.140 How recent?

00:23:00.320 Like, a month ago.

00:23:01.680 A month ago.

00:23:02.420 Okay.

00:23:02.640 And how old was he?

00:23:04.460 He was just, like, a year older.

00:23:08.600 But before I met him, I was, it was, yeah, like, seeing, like, older guys probably.

00:23:15.040 Yeah.

00:23:15.540 Like, 70?

00:23:16.700 No, no, not 70.

00:23:18.100 Just, like, you know, like, 27.

00:23:19.780 Oh, okay. 0.99

00:23:20.200 Like, older 20s, like, have their shit together. 0.99

00:23:22.420 Like. 0.99

00:23:22.840 Sure.

00:23:23.460 You know.

00:23:24.080 Yeah.

00:23:24.880 Okay.

00:23:25.420 More to talk about.

00:23:27.700 Rock and roll.

00:23:29.420 So, I'm currently single.

00:23:33.560 My longest relationship was, like, a year.

00:23:36.040 Tilt the microphone down just slightly.

00:23:39.120 Down?

00:23:39.860 Yeah.

00:23:40.740 Perfect.

00:23:41.280 There?

00:23:41.700 Yeah.

00:23:42.260 Am I good?

00:23:43.340 Yeah, you're good.

00:23:43.780 So, like I said, I was, I'm recently single.

00:23:46.780 Longest relationship was, like, a year. 1.00

00:23:49.360 Toxic ass shit. 1.00

00:23:50.920 And then, I do not have no dating apps. 1.00

00:23:55.500 No seeking arrangements for me.

00:23:57.660 Yeah.

00:24:00.340 Okay.

00:24:01.520 You have something brewing.

00:24:02.740 You have a comment brewing.

00:24:03.820 Always.

00:24:05.440 So, wait.

00:24:06.100 Never, never been on seeking arrangements?

00:24:10.320 No.

00:24:10.860 Ever had a sugar daddy?

00:24:12.560 I mean, I've, you know, just, I don't know why people think, like, sugar daddy's, like,

00:24:19.440 okay, if I had someone like that, but not old.

00:24:21.740 They weren't old.

00:24:22.540 They're just someone with, they're old, but not old, old.

00:24:26.820 You know what I'm saying?

00:24:27.700 You know?

00:24:28.180 Like.

00:24:28.580 Older.

00:24:29.200 Oh, Santa Barbara is expensive.

00:24:31.480 I got to pay my rent.

00:24:33.240 It is expensive.

00:24:34.760 Wait, question.

00:24:35.420 Is this, do you have a grill, or is that?

00:24:37.980 I've got a grill.

00:24:38.700 Why am I blind EQ, or what?

00:24:40.140 What?

00:24:40.640 Can you show the camera and just.

00:24:42.400 A little zoom in action.

00:24:44.560 So, it's just, it's two gems.

00:24:49.300 Is it braces?

00:24:50.300 What?

00:24:50.440 I've never seen those.

00:24:51.340 They're two gems.

00:24:52.420 What's that?

00:24:53.100 It's like a new thing.

00:24:54.360 Oh.

00:24:55.160 Yeah.

00:24:55.320 I'm not with the times.

00:24:56.540 Yeah, you wouldn't get it.

00:24:57.340 I'm not with the times, you know.

00:24:59.100 Okay.

00:24:59.480 Cool, cool.

00:25:01.620 See, I already forgot the questions.

00:25:03.000 Oh, yeah, so, current, sorry, current relationship status, longest relationship, and are you on

00:25:08.860 any dating apps?

00:25:10.360 Okay, hold on, hold on.

00:25:11.680 So, I'm single, the longest, oh, see, I already forgot.

00:25:17.220 The longest relationship was two years, or was it two and a half?

00:25:26.780 I can't remember, and then, no dating apps, and no seeking arrangements.

00:25:34.980 That's cool.

00:25:35.880 So, you've never been on a dating app?

00:25:37.800 No, never.

00:25:38.680 Okay, not even back in Malmo, Sweden?

00:25:41.920 Nope.

00:25:42.660 I never actually, like, I lived there for like nine years, and then I moved.

00:25:46.660 So, when I was nine, I was seven.

00:25:49.360 We'll have to talk about how dating goes down in Sweden just a little bit.

00:25:52.820 Not now, but maybe later on the show, because I know it's very different.

00:25:56.020 In Scandinavian countries, go ahead.

00:25:59.940 I'm single, and my longest relationship was like a year and a half, and I'm not on dating

00:26:07.240 apps, but, like, I've been on, like, Tinder before, like, for fun, but, like, I didn't

00:26:11.780 ever really, like, meet anybody on there, but, yeah.

00:26:16.620 Seeking arrangements?

00:26:17.800 Oh, no, but my roommate does that. 1.00

00:26:19.940 Not her, a different roommate.

00:26:21.520 A different roommate?

00:26:22.820 Yeah, and she gets, like, $1,000. 0.68

00:26:24.440 She gets $1,000? 0.65

00:26:26.300 Yeah.

00:26:26.640 Just to do what?

00:26:29.260 She said she just, like, hangs out with them, but, like, she doesn't let them touch her.

00:26:35.280 She just, like, talks to them, and that's it.

00:26:37.720 Yeah, that was the one.

00:26:38.980 She has, like, a fake name and everything.

00:26:40.980 Wow.

00:26:41.780 Do you think, should we get her on the show?

00:26:43.760 Like, maybe?

00:26:44.200 For sure.

00:26:44.540 Let's get her on the show. 1.00

00:26:45.180 I love her, yes.

00:26:46.140 Cool, cool.

00:26:46.460 Like, she is such a character.

00:26:47.720 Awesome.

00:26:48.820 Luke?

00:26:50.200 I'm single.

00:26:51.180 My longest relationship was six, seven months, and I do not have any relationship apps,

00:27:00.500 any, nothing like that.

00:27:01.560 No Tinder, no...

00:27:03.280 Christian Mingle? 0.76

00:27:04.320 I'm actually on Christian Mingle.

00:27:05.680 No.

00:27:06.040 I'm not on Christian Mingle.

00:27:07.000 I'm serious.

00:27:08.640 What's the farmer one?

00:27:09.740 Farmers Only.

00:27:10.180 Farmers Only.

00:27:11.260 Shout out to Farmers Only.

00:27:13.280 Boom.

00:27:13.980 Okay.

00:27:15.020 Have you gotten...

00:27:15.780 Because you...

00:27:16.400 By the way, this is Luke's...

00:27:17.520 This is your third time back on the show, right?

00:27:19.260 Yeah, it is.

00:27:19.820 So, have you gotten any girls DMing you that have seen you on the show?

00:27:23.520 Not really.

00:27:24.640 Just I have...

00:27:25.960 Some follows or something?

00:27:26.540 Yeah, I have gotten some follows on Instagram.

00:27:30.120 That was cool.

00:27:31.940 And I've talked to some of the girls that have been on the show previously. 0.96

00:27:36.040 But that's about it.

00:27:38.060 Okay.

00:27:38.700 Rock and roll.

00:27:39.280 And then, so, last thing here.

00:27:44.240 So, we're going around the table on this.

00:27:47.000 Do you identify as a feminist? 0.99

00:27:53.300 I, like...

00:27:55.560 I don't...

00:27:55.960 I personally don't like that term.

00:27:57.200 But I definitely, like, identify with, like, equality for women.

00:28:01.560 Like...

00:28:01.760 Okay.

00:28:02.000 But I think the term feminist has been, like, so watered down and, like, has meant so many different things.

00:28:07.140 But I, of course, like, stand by, like, women's rights and, like...

00:28:10.960 Sure.

00:28:11.800 Everything.

00:28:12.400 I don't know.

00:28:13.080 I don't like what the term...

00:28:14.620 Like, how people have, like, flipped the term feminist, too. 1.00

00:28:17.680 So...

00:28:18.240 Yeah.

00:28:19.280 I agree.

00:28:20.660 Some people, like, view it negatively.

00:28:22.720 But, sorry.

00:28:23.660 I am a feminist. 1.00

00:28:24.700 I'm pretty...

00:28:28.080 I've become pretty apolitical over the years.

00:28:32.740 So...

00:28:33.560 I would have to say that I love women. 1.00

00:28:38.760 Love men.

00:28:40.700 Everyone.

00:28:42.480 Yeah.

00:28:42.860 I don't know.

00:28:43.740 But I'm, yeah.

00:28:44.560 I'm not a fan of political movements, I guess.

00:28:46.580 Sure.

00:28:47.900 What's funny is I knew you were going to ask this question because I watched some of your things.

00:28:51.600 So, I'm, like...

00:28:52.480 I asked my mom. 1.00

00:28:53.440 Shut up, mom. 1.00

00:28:53.820 I was, like, am I a feminist? 1.00

00:28:55.420 You know?

00:28:55.820 Because I felt like...

00:28:56.620 I knew you were going to ask.

00:28:57.400 And she's, like, when you walk in a room full of guys and girls, do you address them as, hey, guys?

00:29:02.800 I said, yeah.

00:29:03.760 She's, like, then you're not a feminist because I wasn't addressing the women for who they are and the men, you know?

00:29:10.060 Like, I'm, like, hey, guys, instead of saying, hey, guys and girls, you know?

00:29:14.560 I haven't heard that one.

00:29:16.320 Yeah.

00:29:16.840 And I was, like, when you...

00:29:17.700 She's, like, do you walk in a room and say, hey, do you address the girls as, you know, who they are? 0.98

00:29:22.420 And I'm, like...

00:29:22.840 Sure.

00:29:24.060 I always, like, hi, guys.

00:29:26.340 Like, so...

00:29:27.400 I mean...

00:29:28.900 I don't know if that's the best metric for identifying yourself as a feminist. 1.00

00:29:32.520 Well, I meant, like...

00:29:33.200 Like, no, but...

00:29:34.280 You know?

00:29:34.800 Yeah, but I wouldn't say...

00:29:37.520 Like, there's, like, extreme, extreme, like...

00:29:41.520 Yeah.

00:29:41.940 I'm rich, I guess?

00:29:42.320 And there's, like...

00:29:42.980 No, I don't.

00:29:43.480 Like, I guess I'm, like, in between.

00:29:45.320 Okay.

00:29:45.720 Like, I have a friend that she's, like, extreme feminist. 1.00

00:29:48.020 Like, I hate old men, blah, blah, and I'm just like... 0.94

00:29:49.980 Yikes.

00:29:50.420 Oh! 0.60

00:29:51.140 Okay.

00:29:51.460 That's a yikes.

00:29:52.320 So, yeah.

00:29:54.580 I wouldn't really, like, know where I stand with that.

00:29:56.880 Like, because, like, I want equal for men and women, but I'm not, like... 0.67

00:30:01.060 I hate men. 1.00

00:30:01.780 Like, kill them all. 1.00

00:30:02.840 So, I just... 1.00

00:30:03.680 Wait.

00:30:04.320 I mean, that is not feminism, though. 1.00

00:30:07.480 No, you know, that is...

00:30:08.480 It kind of is.

00:30:10.100 It kind of is.

00:30:10.380 That's what a lot of men think it is because of how strong women come off, but I don't 0.51

00:30:15.440 think that feminism should equal hating men. 0.76

00:30:17.820 I think that it should equal equality.

00:30:20.260 Like, that is the movement of feminism is for women to be seen as equal as men, not as 0.97

00:30:26.120 superior to men. 1.00

00:30:27.140 But I do feel like a lot of women who, like, call themselves feminists are like, fuck all 1.00

00:30:33.620 men. 1.00

00:30:33.980 I hate them. 0.99

00:30:34.880 Like, I haven't really, like... 0.96

00:30:36.720 I don't know.

00:30:37.300 I mean, like, can you blame them?

00:30:38.800 Like...

00:30:39.320 No.

00:30:39.600 You can blame them.

00:30:40.860 Yeah, you can blame.

00:30:42.040 You can definitely blame.

00:30:43.240 I think that's a bad, like...

00:30:45.480 I think that's a bad idea for people to view feminism as, though, because, yes, there are 1.00

00:30:50.540 very extreme women who tend to take that out on men, but I think that, like, us coming 0.99

00:30:56.520 to the reality of feminism today is to not let those views, like, overtake how we view 1.00

00:31:02.540 feminism. 1.00

00:31:03.580 I think feminism, like, as its definition, should be equality for both genders, not women

00:31:09.780 are superior.

00:31:10.620 So I think, like, we should think of it on that scale.

00:31:14.100 So, like, I don't know.

00:31:15.320 Well, we already have something for that called egalitarianism.

00:31:20.860 But how often do you hear that word?

00:31:23.620 Not often, but we should hear it more.

00:31:25.340 We should.

00:31:25.860 I agree with that.

00:31:26.640 I agree.

00:31:27.220 But I think that, like, people are taking feminism, like, way out of its context.

00:31:31.720 So, like, what...

00:31:32.420 That's what it is?

00:31:33.940 That's your definition of it?

00:31:35.200 I think that, like, at least from my knowledge, like, feminism is women fighting to be more 1.00

00:31:40.240 equal to men rather than, like, not superior, but just not less than.

00:31:44.080 And because for so long we have been seen as less than.

00:31:47.700 Yeah.

00:31:48.880 Oh, just me.

00:31:51.720 How about you, Luke?

00:31:52.940 Are you a feminist? 1.00

00:31:54.220 Luke is a raging...

00:31:55.460 What were you going to say?

00:31:57.700 No, finish it.

00:31:58.520 I want to...

00:31:59.100 Anti-feminist.

00:32:00.020 I'm not a raging anti-feminist.

00:32:01.600 I wouldn't say I align myself with what feminism stands for, and I do think it should be what 0.95

00:32:08.680 you're saying.

00:32:09.660 I think it should be, you know, men and women should be equal, but I think the way that feminism 0.99

00:32:15.820 is portrayed is fucking gross. 0.98

00:32:18.400 So, no, I would not consider myself a feminist. 0.99

00:32:20.580 Can I just say that, like, men that call themselves feminists is, like, just low-key a turn-off

00:32:27.900 to me?

00:32:28.400 Not because they're, like, feminist, because it's just, like... 1.00

00:32:31.700 Like, I don't know.

00:32:34.920 It's just...

00:32:35.400 Are you a lot of curse on here?

00:32:37.080 Yeah.

00:32:37.540 I don't know. 1.00

00:32:38.180 Just, like, you know, little pussy. 1.00

00:32:40.580 I don't know. 1.00

00:32:41.060 Like, it's also just, just, like, like, if you were...

00:32:45.480 Also, also, okay, especially, like, in Ivy, especially, like, liberal guys are, like,

00:32:51.380 the first to be, like, to just, like, not go down on you, too, by the way.

00:32:55.500 I don't know.

00:32:56.100 I feel, like, I just remember hearing that, like, in Ivy, like, like, I don't know.

00:33:01.060 She goes straight to the punch. 1.00

00:33:02.500 I like this.

00:33:03.200 Like, I'm sorry.

00:33:03.800 I just, like, thought this in my head, and, like, that's just a turn-off.

00:33:06.900 Like, you're trying too hard.

00:33:08.360 Like, you probably, Loki, just want me to, like, buy your, like, haunted kitchen.

00:33:13.440 I don't know.

00:33:13.900 Not cute.

00:33:14.680 Not...

00:33:15.200 I'm not into it.

00:33:16.320 Good answer.

00:33:18.760 Wow.

00:33:19.900 That was good.

00:33:20.660 We need more of those...

00:33:21.320 Just start getting that out there.

00:33:22.600 What is that?

00:33:23.440 Because if you were going to say, like, I'm a feminist, I'd be, like... 1.00

00:33:27.040 I would have called you a pussy to your face. 1.00

00:33:29.400 So, I'm glad you didn't. 1.00

00:33:30.220 Wow.

00:33:30.540 No.

00:33:31.160 Yeah.

00:33:32.420 I'm not a feminist. 0.96

00:33:33.720 No, I'm not. 1.00

00:33:34.800 She would have called you a pussy, Luke. 1.00

00:33:36.820 Like... 1.00

00:33:37.220 So, it's good that you didn't say...

00:33:38.420 Oh, my fragile masculinity.

00:33:39.860 Oh.

00:33:40.040 Like, your hair's already dying.

00:33:41.620 You're, like, on thin edge.

00:33:43.060 So, I mean...

00:33:43.600 Wow.

00:33:44.180 Okay. 1.00

00:33:45.060 Oh, shit. 1.00

00:33:46.260 Dang. 1.00

00:33:46.780 Shots fired.

00:33:48.280 Is the bleached hair, like, equivalent to the blue-haired feminist type thing? 1.00

00:33:52.340 Yeah.

00:33:52.640 Oh.

00:33:53.480 Yeah.

00:33:53.600 Like, are your nails painted right now?

00:33:54.780 No.

00:33:55.200 No.

00:33:55.480 My nails are not painted.

00:33:56.680 My nails are not painted.

00:33:57.800 That's good.

00:33:59.220 Cheyenne, you were making a couple faces.

00:34:01.860 Do you have anything to say in response?

00:34:04.400 Yeah.

00:34:04.600 I mean, like, me personally, I would view it differently.

00:34:08.980 Like, if a guy said that he were anti-feminist, I guess, in that case, I would be, like, automatically

00:34:14.060 turned off.

00:34:14.600 Because, like, I think of feminism not in the way, like, he has to be feminine, but more

00:34:19.600 like he respects women.

00:34:20.740 And so, if a guy told me that he was a feminist or had bleached hair, it's okay, Luke.

00:34:25.120 I respect it.

00:34:25.940 I think it's cute.

00:34:27.460 But, like, if a guy told me that, I would take it more in a way of, like, okay, he has 1.00

00:34:31.760 some respect for me, not, like, immediate turnoff and he's a pussy. 1.00

00:34:36.160 But, like, that's just me. 0.99

00:34:38.100 And, like, the liberal thing, I don't know.

00:34:40.860 I've never heard that.

00:34:41.520 I've had some liberal guys go down on me and it was a good time.

00:34:45.220 So, I don't know if political views really relates to sexual pleasing in the bedroom.

00:34:50.860 But, hey, maybe other people would say that.

00:34:53.820 Not that, like, it's correlated, but, like, if you're a guy and you're calling yourself

00:34:57.360 a feminist, like. 1.00

00:34:59.680 I just think that means that he respects women. 0.97

00:35:02.320 Like, I would take that and respect that rather than a guy that's, like, no, I'm no fucking 0.98

00:35:06.860 feminist. 1.00

00:35:07.540 Like, that's stupid. 1.00

00:35:08.660 I think that would be more of a turnoff to me personally. 1.00

00:35:11.080 But, like, everyone is different at the end of the day.

00:35:17.240 Okay.

00:35:17.720 Wow.

00:35:17.980 That was intense.

00:35:21.160 We're going to do two super chats here while we are.

00:35:23.300 Actually, no.

00:35:23.860 We'll get to super chats here in just a sec.

00:35:26.600 So, hold on.

00:35:27.400 Let me just pull up our next point here.

00:35:30.780 Unless you two want to continue going at it.

00:35:32.640 That's good, too.

00:35:34.540 I'm.

00:35:35.080 Maybe I take it back.

00:35:36.040 I, like, am a feminist. 0.91

00:35:37.620 Like, I just mean, like.

00:35:38.440 Don't walk it back.

00:35:39.620 I don't take it back.

00:35:40.640 Anything I said about the man phase.

00:35:42.600 I just, like, want you to know.

00:35:43.700 Like, I feel like my thoughts on feminism is, like, you better practice it like you preach 0.88

00:35:48.460 it.

00:35:48.740 I don't bother calling myself a feminist. 0.97

00:35:50.280 I, I'm a feminist because I'm a woman who does whatever the fuck I want. 1.00

00:35:54.060 And to me, that's feminism. 1.00

00:35:54.880 So, I think.

00:35:55.720 I don't care what your words are. 0.99

00:35:56.960 If you, like, don't have the balls to, like, live out feminism. 1.00

00:36:00.000 Which is, like, doing what you don't. 0.99

00:36:01.300 Not caring what a man thinks, like, about any of it. 0.99

00:36:04.420 And, like, staying true to yourself.

00:36:05.940 And, like, living out your life.

00:36:07.700 Like, that's what feminism is to me. 1.00

00:36:08.900 It's, like, not what you talk about.

00:36:09.960 And I think it also is, like, a personal preference at the end of the day.

00:36:13.580 Because, like, I personally tend to go for, like, less masculine men.

00:36:18.620 And, like, we were kind of talking about this on the last episode.

00:36:20.700 Like, guys wearing a dress.

00:36:21.620 Like, obviously, that's not, like, my type of man that I'm going to go choose.

00:36:25.660 But, like, I would be okay with showing some femininity.

00:36:29.060 Just because, like, I personally am cool with that.

00:36:31.780 And I am bisexual.

00:36:33.040 So, like, I already like girls as it is. 0.58

00:36:34.640 So, like, a girly man isn't really going to bother me as much as, like, someone who's looking for, like, a super masculine man that's going to, like, protect them and pay all their bills and stuff.

00:36:42.940 So, I think it is a personal preference.

00:36:45.060 And, like, yeah.

00:36:47.960 Very different for each person.

00:36:49.700 So, I want to touch on what you said.

00:36:53.080 So, by the way, if you want, we could.

00:36:56.180 Luke, are you down to get an address right now?

00:36:58.360 Please, Luke.

00:36:59.320 For Cheyenne. 0.98

00:37:00.480 If someone super chats, like, 20 bucks, I'll fucking do it. 0.99

00:37:05.440 20? 0.99

00:37:05.640 Oh, my.

00:37:06.200 How about 50?

00:37:07.260 I know.

00:37:07.660 20?

00:37:08.440 You're so short. 1.00

00:37:09.400 Dude, who the fuck? 1.00

00:37:10.140 I don't care. 1.00

00:37:10.760 I'm just going to take it off in, like, two seconds.

00:37:12.660 I mean, chat.

00:37:13.260 I'll leave it on.

00:37:14.620 No.

00:37:15.280 A hundred dollars for Luke.

00:37:16.800 A hundred dollars I'll put on.

00:37:17.920 Put on the.

00:37:18.680 Do you have a dress here?

00:37:19.500 I have a Japanese schoolgirl outfit.

00:37:21.840 Stop.

00:37:22.560 You guys.

00:37:23.020 Homegirl does have a dress? 1.00

00:37:23.780 150. 1.00

00:37:24.520 God damn. 1.00

00:37:26.580 And then. 0.99

00:37:27.260 Or should we have Cheyenne put it on instead?

00:37:30.080 Wait.

00:37:31.200 What about my Ninja Turtle costume?

00:37:35.620 Wait.

00:37:36.580 Eric, just curious.

00:37:38.000 Why is when you're going on to StreamYard.

00:37:40.960 I don't know why I'm doing this.

00:37:41.820 Oh, put it here.

00:37:42.780 I'll tell you how to fix this.

00:37:44.240 I can fix it.

00:37:45.060 No, no, no.

00:37:45.440 Just put it.

00:37:46.020 Go to.

00:37:46.520 Go back.

00:37:47.180 Go to file.

00:37:48.580 No, no, no.

00:37:49.160 Up to file at the very top.

00:37:50.680 Top, top, top.

00:37:51.420 Always on top.

00:37:52.160 Click it.

00:37:53.500 Always on top.

00:37:55.160 There you go.

00:37:55.880 Okay, cool.

00:37:57.000 Yeah.

00:37:58.100 It's probably just because we.

00:37:59.120 Sorry, guys.

00:37:59.520 We had to update OBS because we've been having tons of issues with OBS.

00:38:03.640 Anyways.

00:38:03.840 So you said that a male feminist is, or a liberal guy, a guy who's liberal is less likely to 1.00

00:38:11.740 go down on you. 0.98

00:38:13.060 Is that?

00:38:13.460 No, no.

00:38:13.900 I just like, it's more like, I remember hearing stories.

00:38:17.600 Like, if you're going to call yourself a liberal guy, like, you better, is what I'm saying.

00:38:21.240 If you call yourself a feminist, like, you better, like, so it's more, like, I don't know. 0.98

00:38:25.040 I feel like you probably should be, like, going down on a world.

00:38:26.760 It's just like, why are you saying that?

00:38:28.300 You're probably just saying that to, like, because you think it'll, like, get you girls.

00:38:31.200 I don't know.

00:38:31.900 Like, I don't know.

00:38:32.980 In general, I tend to just, like, call cap.

00:38:34.680 I'm like, whatever people say their, like, political, like, view is.

00:38:39.180 Wait.

00:38:39.380 So that's the, that's the first thing you go to if a guy says he's liberal. 1.00

00:38:43.740 It's like, you best be eating pussy. 1.00

00:38:47.080 That's the first thing. 1.00

00:38:48.320 That's the first thing I go to.

00:38:50.520 Just, like, I just remember, like, the last time I talked, I, like, had a conversation about, like, the liberal man.

00:38:57.800 It was, it was, like, I don't know.

00:39:00.200 I remember, like, friends telling you that, like.

00:39:02.580 If you love women, you better show it. 1.00

00:39:05.480 That's all she's saying.

00:39:06.520 Luke.

00:39:11.820 Luke, do you, uh, do you partake?

00:39:15.200 Do you?

00:39:18.340 Do I go down?

00:39:19.480 Do you go down?

00:39:20.440 I go down.

00:39:21.920 I go, yeah, I definitely go down.

00:39:24.520 Oh, my sweet summer child.

00:39:26.740 Okay.

00:39:30.240 Okay, we're gonna, maybe we'll.

00:39:32.580 What about you, Brian?

00:39:33.000 Should we talk about it?

00:39:33.880 What about me?

00:39:34.600 Yeah.

00:39:35.340 Do you go down?

00:39:36.200 I haven't gone down on a girl since the Bush administration.

00:39:39.280 So, that's, like, 2008, 2009.

00:39:41.280 Is it just a preference?

00:39:42.800 Yeah, just not a.

00:39:43.100 Is it because you haven't, like, been with a woman since the Bush administration, or?

00:39:46.840 I just want to clarify.

00:39:48.260 He's scarred for life.

00:39:49.620 Yeah, I was, I've sworn off women since, uh, it's been almost a day. 1.00

00:39:54.020 No, uh.

00:39:55.440 I just don't really like it.

00:39:57.120 Not a fan of it.

00:39:57.980 Yeah.

00:39:58.340 Now, let me, let me qualify my statement a little bit.

00:40:04.660 I believe, I want to make the girl come first every time.

00:40:08.640 Like, she's gonna come first. 0.98

00:40:09.660 That's my philosophy.

00:40:11.420 I just, that specific act, not a fan of it.

00:40:14.880 Yeah, that's super fair.

00:40:15.640 it's just like a sexual preference just not not a fan of it and it's not like i'm grossed out by

00:40:21.540 vaginas right it's not that at all it's just it's just all yeah hashtag i'll leave it matter um 1.00

00:40:29.780 i just i don't it's not something i enjoy now anyways that's it so i guess we could ask the

00:40:38.020 panel like is that a deal breaker for you guys if you guys doesn't want to go down on you um

00:40:43.520 low-key yeah i'm gonna say yes that's fine my last relationship you didn't really do it that much

00:40:50.400 and like you started doing it towards the end not much of a deal breaker then if

00:40:53.480 your last relationship you learned that was my first and like only relationship okay like honestly

00:40:59.080 only person that i've ever really been with sure i've changed my standards a little bit and i was

00:41:05.920 i wouldn't say it's like a complete deal breaker but it's definitely like a heartbreaker like i'm

00:41:10.100 a little bit i'm disappointed you know so and i feel like a guy should like enjoy it like why

00:41:16.420 would you not why would you not i can think of a couple reasons but go ahead um i would say most

00:41:24.280 likely yes it would be a deal breaker just because like well even if he could make you come other ways

00:41:29.480 if he didn't do that specific thing it's a deal breaker dang that's kind of tough like maybe i would

00:41:35.940 be okay with it but i would just kind of want to like be like why not because like some girls don't 1.00

00:41:43.500 enjoy giving head to guys either but a lot of the times we do it because that is like the main way of

00:41:49.600 like fornication other than sex with guys and like a majority of guys will receive head whereas a majority 0.66

00:41:55.360 of girls will not like it's more rare for women to receive head whereas like if i were in a relationship 1.00

00:42:01.560 with a guy and if that's something that i'm giving to him i would probably like at least expect it in

00:42:07.160 return and like if he can fulfill it in other ways maybe that's okay maybe that's fine but like i would

00:42:13.520 probably just want to know why if he's like really not comfortable with it it's just not something he

00:42:17.280 likes like that's okay i'm not going to like force anyone to do something that they're not comfortable

00:42:20.500 with but i would kind of just want to know like why not

00:42:23.400 it's not a deal breaker to me but if he's a liberal he has to do it well i'm just i'm just

00:42:33.300 saying like you know like i said practice what you preach i don't know i just think it's ironic and

00:42:36.800 funny like okay yeah um if he knows what he's doing in other ways i ain't tripping you know sure

00:42:45.360 i wouldn't call it like a deal breaker but like disappointed i think okay i mean i wouldn't say

00:42:54.120 deal breaker but like if i'm gonna give you head like shouldn't i get it back just a little closer 0.96

00:42:59.860 like shouldn't i get it back if i give it to you like where's the like yeah well i mean i i guess my

00:43:07.460 response to that would be i i think there are some things that your partner can enjoy that maybe

00:43:15.100 you don't so i i wouldn't blame a girl necessarily like if her partner didn't want to go down on her

00:43:23.080 she could be like well i'm not gonna go down on you then but then i think that's kind of almost

00:43:27.640 coming from a vindictive place like if you enjoy giving head then then it's kind of just almost 0.99

00:43:35.460 revenge like motherfucker you ain't going down on me i'm not going down on you like there are some 0.99

00:43:41.020 things that certain part certain people just don't like doing and everyone has their own sexual 0.99

00:43:48.140 boundaries and stuff so that's exactly why i clarified some girls don't like giving head 1.00

00:43:54.400 because if a girl does like giving head maybe she has no problem with it but if a girl doesn't do it 1.00

00:43:57.900 and she's doing it just to please her partner she would probably want that in return at the very least

00:44:03.280 i mean i've known some girls too that they don't enjoy receiving head that's a possibility too some 1.00

00:44:09.760 girls don't like it so there's that can you just pull that wire uh just so it towards you yeah perfect 1.00

00:44:18.640 okay so we're gonna do super chats really quick richard joy with the canadian ten dollars question

00:44:25.940 for the girls first date idea for a girl i somewhat know trail ride on a horse what are your thoughts

00:44:31.580 richard joy thank you for the ten canadian dollars uh really quick guys if you want to give your

00:44:36.600 thoughts on this he's gonna take a girl for first date to ride horses hell no like you're gonna kill

00:44:42.960 me like that's like a red flag of like you're taking me to the woods to kill me like i've watched too

00:44:47.540 many like things i've heard too many stories also why the woods like first role as a girl first date

00:44:52.480 always needs to be in a public place where you can like you do not know these intentions like i'm i would

00:44:57.280 get worried that like some guy asked me if i wanted to meet him at the beach and i was already

00:45:01.400 like a little bit too far for me so even the beach yeah like for not for a first date like if i

00:45:07.620 really know you then like yeah i think it's cute also where are you getting the horse like you're

00:45:12.000 already there's too many questions that are like arising for me so yeah yeah um in theory that is

00:45:21.120 such a cute first date like good job for thinking of that but just know that like us as women first 1.00

00:45:27.380 dates can be scary so we might be hesitant to actually meet up with you maybe like a second

00:45:32.920 date like get to know her first in a public place like she was saying and then take her on a second

00:45:37.680 date and she's gonna be wowed but like that's a really good date idea like that sounds fun

00:45:41.140 i would do it as like i would not do that as a first date i don't know just because like i feel like

00:45:50.600 if guys come off too strong it's just like a turn off like in a way not just in a way of like

00:45:59.020 you question if they're trying so hard like is there a reason like is there something like behind that

00:46:04.120 like not in a good way so i would just say like keep it chill like don't put all your cards on the

00:46:09.780 table that's like a sweet idea but if i was her i'd be sort of like overwhelmed and like be like too

00:46:16.180 much too fast so yeah um well i'm hispanic i'm from the rancho so we like horses you feel me so

00:46:24.720 and i like jaripeos so you got a horse and you try to do all that let's go you know what i'm saying

00:46:30.460 i've i've grew up in horses and so okay she's down all right i would find like quite like cute like 0.99

00:46:38.460 sweet like oh that's thoughtful but maybe like more like a second date not first i'd say

00:46:45.040 personally i would like love to do that just because i've grown up with horses and also like

00:46:50.940 you could go on a trail ride with other people and have it like just not be you two but

00:46:55.600 i know where'd you get woods from yeah where did you get the woods from well i mean a trail is like

00:47:01.260 that's in the like a hiking trail well like into a hiking trail where there's horses and he's like

00:47:06.700 i didn't say nothing about woods we by the way we have a clarifying super chat here from richard joy

00:47:10.380 thank you for these subsequent uh canadian ten dollars about the trail ride it's generally done

00:47:15.580 with a group of like 10 other horses jesus christ um okay we didn't know that yeah i mean if it was in

00:47:23.760 a group and like i was like tim and yeah why not like that shows effort that shows like dedication

00:47:29.340 like i think that would be really sweet but okay to me like the idea of like going in a secluded

00:47:33.500 place especially with an animal is like a little bit scary for sure for sure i feel like i would be

00:47:40.700 more comfortable with an animal like i don't know by the way can we get uh can eric can you go center

00:47:46.940 really quick um emma right ella correct do you see that portrait behind you of with the the black

00:47:56.460 gentleman yeah um can you just scoot it to your right to the right just my way yeah can you just

00:48:04.620 put it on the table really quick oh on the table yeah eric can you pull it up the uh super chat

00:48:12.540 can you scoot it all right we got mike davis in the chat with the 20 dollar soup chat curly hair miss

00:48:18.700 patrick sounds confused listen young bucks women will say whatever the media has trained them to 1.00

00:48:24.700 say but that's no reflection of what truly attracts them dominant and assertive is the way to go

00:48:31.180 cheyenne i believe this is directed towards you um mr mike davis thank you for the big 20

00:48:38.460 dollar soup chat good to see you back by the way i don't know if you caught it mr mike davis

00:48:43.260 uh eric if you put it center again did you miss the vigil from two podcasts ago dude we had candles and

00:48:50.460 shit we had the bbc where you been you met you didn't even address the vigil mike davis but hey

00:48:57.180 good to see you back man thank you for the 20 super chat um cheyenne do you want to respond to mr mike

00:49:03.420 davis i mean maybe that's what you're telling me right now but from my own experience with being with

00:49:12.620 the men that i have i don't always like a dominant and assertive man because i'm really stubborn myself and

00:49:18.780 when guys try to like tell me what to do or lead sometimes it makes me draw back so like like i said

00:49:25.020 everyone is different and personally like that kind of turns me off sometimes like i do want a guy that

00:49:30.300 can protect me but at the same time i want a guy that's a little sensitive and can like make fun of

00:49:37.340 those things like be okay with those things without being super fragile masculinity and so that's just me

00:49:45.100 i don't think being dominant and assertive like means you have like a fragile masculinity

00:49:49.660 that can be a part of like positive masculinity like in a good way i like agree with what mike says

00:49:55.660 i think it's like true that sometimes like girls may like think they like want a certain thing

00:50:02.860 i don't know but it might not really be what they what they do want like you have to like find that

00:50:08.620 for yourself yeah yeah but when i'm speaking i'm speaking like for myself and that's what i'm saying

00:50:15.580 like in my own experience i don't always want a man that's super dominant and assertive because

00:50:22.060 sometimes i tend to draw away from that just because of the girl that i am personally you don't

00:50:26.700 want a guy who's dominant and assertive not always like about in the bedroom bedroom is a little different

00:50:33.100 like okay that's a little different but i mean like out in public i don't want a man that's gonna 0.99

00:50:39.580 like just be telling me what to do or like just for example i was watching american psycho last night

00:50:46.140 and like i don't know not every relationship is american psycho obviously but like wait just why

00:50:53.740 you bring american psycho the one the one part i'm talking about is the scene where his girl is at

00:50:59.580 dinner with him and he just orders everything for her like she was zanned out didn't know what was

00:51:03.420 going on but like me personally if i was sober in that situation and the guy told me like this is

00:51:07.020 what you're gonna order or also white chicks same thing happened no i'm gonna choose what i want to 0.80

00:51:13.100 eat so like those are just random movie examples obviously not real life but i'm just saying like

00:51:18.940 if a guy were to try to boss me around what i know okay listen okay hear me out patrick bateman

00:51:27.500 is like a psychopathic murderer who kills but is he not dominant and assertive but you're you're 0.98

00:51:35.260 you're looking to america i know i know i'm saying that's a bad example but white chicks also 1.00

00:51:40.300 whatever his name the the whistle dude yeah he like orders he's like ordering do you like huey lewis in the

00:51:46.460 news their early work was a little too new wave for my taste but when sports came out in 83 they really

00:51:54.700 came into their own both creatively and artistically you just i'm terrified why did you know that all

00:52:02.700 that's why i'm scared why did you know that word for american psycho is a good film that's concerning

00:52:06.940 see a lot of this podcast is starting to make sense he just quoted american psycho like with no 0.83

00:52:12.620 book in front of him or anything but anyways what i'm saying that shit committed to memory see what i'm 0.83

00:52:18.700 saying is though like okay maybe movies are a bad example i was i just watched that movie yesterday so 0.89

00:52:23.340 it was on my mind but like i feel like as a feminist you should be the first to like not use one caricature 1.00

00:52:28.780 of the worst type of man as like no i'm not at all that's why i said like those are just two movie

00:52:34.540 examples obviously not realistic but i'm just saying if i were in a scenario where a guy's like telling me

00:52:40.140 what i need to eat for dinner and he's like ordering my food for me that is like an example just one

00:52:46.460 example but isn't that very like extreme example yes have you ever had that in person though i mean

00:52:52.460 i don't know but if i like i would not stand for it but even a guy like telling me like oh like that

00:52:58.620 outfit is not good enough or like you don't look good enough like that kind of thing where a guy is

00:53:02.860 trying to tell me what to do if any guy is trying to tell me what to do i'm automatically going to take

00:53:07.660 a step back and like maybe not every woman will do that maybe some women like that and they want that 1.00

00:53:12.540 control and power in their life but me personally i do not and so responding to mike davis's comments

00:53:19.580 maybe you think it's like the reflection of media but i'm just talking from my own personal experience

00:53:23.580 i don't always want a man that is super dominant and assertive sometimes i want a man that can flex

00:53:28.380 a little and like lean my way you know yeah i'm off painting the nails and the toes though no i'm off that

00:53:35.980 that that type of feminine guy i can't do that he can't have his nails painted or toes painted and 1.00

00:53:42.700 i'm off that by the way verx thank you for the uh gifted sub man much appreciated um so i mean how

00:53:49.500 do you reconcile wanting a guy who's dominant in the bedroom but you don't want a guy who's dominant

00:53:55.420 outside of the bedroom i guess it's just a line of controlling because like in the bedroom

00:54:01.420 sure it's okay if you like take lead way i don't want to be doing all the work whatever i thought

00:54:07.580 you were a feminist i am a feminist what does that have to do with feminism though

00:54:13.100 like we can't be equal in the bedroom too no but you said you just said you don't like to take lead

00:54:19.100 in the bedroom right or did i miss hear you i said not always i don't always like 10 of the time you

00:54:24.860 like no don't play me like that brian okay what i'm saying is like

00:54:32.140 it's okay like can we bring up mike davis's comment again just to get a little refresher

00:54:37.260 i'm also blind so i couldn't even really see all of it in the first place oops i got

00:54:44.380 it's the war between eric and brian god uh so i mean also why do you call me miss patrick

00:54:50.460 i yeah what is miss patrick who's mike davis can you you don't have to send a super chat but like

00:54:57.020 what who's that um women will say whatever the media has trained them to say but i mean i think 1.00

00:55:03.820 right now i'm kind of at a minority here because it seems like a lot of the girls here are kind of 0.99

00:55:09.660 disagreeing with me so if it really were the media portraying that i would think that there would be

00:55:14.700 more of these girls on my side saying like oh yes she's right which is okay if they're not fully

00:55:19.740 agreeing with me i think it's not media portraying the way that i think i think it's a personal

00:55:23.740 preference for myself that like i mentioned earlier i am okay with a little bit of a less masculine man

00:55:32.940 and that's not for everybody but to answer your question like i don't think it's media i think

00:55:37.340 it's my own personal preference would you like would you be down to peg a guy

00:55:41.260 no okay moving on moving on here um okay so

00:55:50.940 can i ask a question to the group yeah sure that just like i was thinking about as you're talking

00:55:57.900 about this do you guys think that like guys are less manly than they like used to be

00:56:03.900 oh yeah like less like like in the good ways like the good kind of manly like isn't it is like a lot

00:56:11.340 less than it used to be and like do you think our culture is like encouraging them to be like even

00:56:15.900 more like less like masculine in a good way does anyone have any thoughts yeah we'll let the girls go 1.00

00:56:21.100 first do you start off um honestly like i have no idea because i feel like nowadays men just like

00:56:32.940 everybody can do what they want nowadays like there's no really like strict line at about how

00:56:38.060 like a man has to act and be manly like i'm open to like however if a guy wants to act like the way he

00:56:45.180 does like cool do that like i don't i wouldn't want to like tell him to act manly or like i don't know

00:56:53.020 like half half i guess like some men are so like like manly what sense you mean though like i just

00:57:01.660 mean like like harry styles no like i don't know guys used to be like like in our like evolutionary path

00:57:09.340 past i mean like guys used to be like i don't know just responsible and like providers and like

00:57:17.020 caretakers and like lumbering wood and like now i feel like guys just like sit in the room and play

00:57:21.900 video games and that is like what i'm talking about oh yeah for sure there's generations watered down

00:57:27.900 for sure yeah way watered down too yeah well it's like watered down but you don't want like the

00:57:34.780 woman in the kitchen and the man yeah that's what i was just gonna say like if we're gonna talk about

00:57:39.020 that we could also say that it's the same for women where women don't have to like reach that 0.99

00:57:44.140 womanly standard quite as much anymore like we're not just cooking and cleaning like we used to and

00:57:49.580 popping out kids for them i think it's like both genders have kind of realized that we don't have 0.97

00:57:55.100 to stick to these same standards that we always used to and we're kind of drifting away from that

00:57:59.980 which i personally really enjoy i love to see manly woman and womanly men and i know that everyone in

00:58:06.860 the comments is gonna hate me for that but i'm sorry that's just what i think like i think that

00:58:12.620 in the past we did have those strict norms and stuff and a lot of people don't like it but like

00:58:17.660 that's just the way things are changing and i think in the future it's gonna be even more so like we're

00:58:22.860 not just gonna ban that by being like super misogynistic or like whatever whatever you know

00:58:29.420 which ninja turtle are you by the way are you donatello um why do you ask that i don't know i'm

00:58:34.460 just i okay i am technically none of them right now could be any of them um okay do you want that do

00:58:42.940 you want to answer her oh i mean i personally really like traditional like yeah i feel like weird saying

00:58:51.660 that that's the only reason like back to the topic of talking about like whether you're a feminist i feel 1.00

00:58:55.260 like if i were to what i would want feminism to be with that you would like to you would be able to 1.00

00:59:01.740 be free to make your own choice like cheyenne wants like a more feminine guy like i personally like a 1.00

00:59:08.460 really masculine guy like that's just me but i think you're you should be allowed to have your

00:59:12.940 preferences like i do like a traditional relationship i do want someone that's dominant and that's gonna take

00:59:19.020 charge but there needs to be balance in that to not to the point where it's like the 50s where it's like

00:59:22.780 i'm getting like beat you know like that's what was happening like we don't want that to happen but

00:59:28.620 you know there still needs to be a balance but like i i like i do like a traditional man

00:59:35.660 that's just me i don't think you would have been getting beat in the 50s oh i think you need to like

00:59:41.420 do your like that yeah you're pretty common like it was a pretty like i think that's a myth i don't

00:59:46.460 think i don't think life beating has ever been socially acceptable i i actually really do think it

00:59:52.460 was in the 1950s like i'm being i took i took a feminist studies class like well i mean there's

00:59:57.900 no surprise there's no surprise there i mean i just took one class just like because it was actually

01:00:03.740 a ge to fulfill so and i decided to take that class but like no like women were actually very oppressed 1.00

01:00:09.020 like they do you think men are more respectful of women in 2022 versus in 1950 oh they have to be or

01:00:16.060 else they're going to get canceled because like if a man says something bad about a woman or

01:00:20.620 disrespectful he will get canceled will a woman get canceled if she says something disrespectful

01:00:25.980 about a man i think it depends on the severity of it but i think there's like a probably a little

01:00:30.860 bit more yeah no probably not like i saw that in like the last like episode i watched and you guys 0.90

01:00:37.180 were like sort of talking about that and like the statement like girls say all the time like men are trash

01:00:42.940 like that said all the time i've never ever like other than like in like you know like

01:00:47.660 like playful debate like while you're like supposed to be debating it does anyone ever bring up like

01:00:53.820 that's like disrespectful or whatever even when like girls make jokes like entirely objectifying men 1.00

01:00:59.980 like it's just like a funny joke no i mean yeah but yeah just as like a you know devil's advocate here

01:01:07.820 no good point so um so your initial by the way luke do you want to chime in before i give my piece on

01:01:13.260 this okay so your question was do you do you think that men are less masculine yeah today yeah or yes

01:01:24.700 i would agree i would agree with that um i would also say that women are less feminine yeah so both of 0.97

01:01:32.300 the genders are not adhering to their traditional gender roles so which could be like both a good and

01:01:39.980 bad thing you know like for me like i can't deny that there's like certain elements of like cultural

01:01:46.780 progress of like what it means to be a girl that means that i can like be more like myself or have

01:01:51.580 like more freedom so that being like stigmatized for it that i wouldn't have had decades what more

01:01:56.140 freedom what do you mean just like sexual freedoms i guess i mean okay so yeah able to like get a

01:02:02.540 divorce just like more like not even just like are you talking about promiscuity sleeping around

01:02:08.060 because you said sexual freedom yeah okay i mean it's still like looked down upon but nowhere near

01:02:13.420 it would have ever ever been like in the past which like isn't necessarily like totally like which

01:02:21.260 is like in some ways helpful i feel like okay yeah but do you so the thing is like here's what i would

01:02:30.780 say is that women want most women probably want men to adhere to their traditional gender roles 0.99

01:02:39.420 providing and protecting but women don't want to adhere to their traditional gender roles yeah sure 1.00

01:02:45.980 i mean well i think like i think like the problem is that like it really is just like subjective like

01:02:50.860 as someone like when i grew up like i remember growing up being like i was a radical feminist like

01:02:55.500 growing up and being like i don't want to get married i'm gonna have kids with like 0.62

01:03:01.820 like someone from every continent like i don't know all this shit like i was like just like 0.89

01:03:06.860 super yeah like i don't know all about that i was like i'm gonna have like my own job like whatever

01:03:13.820 like i like all that sort of stuff like that was my tank and then like or at first i was like i'm

01:03:18.860 never gonna have like kids or whatever i don't know and then i just like grew out of it and then i

01:03:22.460 realized i realized how much i wanted to identify with like traditional feminine roles like no like 0.92

01:03:28.380 what's more i don't want to have i don't want the career to be the center of my life i want like my

01:03:32.060 kids to and like things like that so as i like fell into like what i wanted from like more of the

01:03:38.460 feminine roles that's when i started like specifically wanting a more like masculine role and like my 0.74

01:03:44.540 partner so it's definitely you can't ask for something and not be being able to like provide the

01:03:49.580 compatible like counterpart to it so i mean in your response yeah like i'm asking for like a more

01:03:56.620 masculine man like with the like desire to be like more on the like providing for those like feminine

01:04:03.180 roles as well okay so you want a traditional guy yeah okay and so what what does that traditional guy

01:04:10.780 look like to you do you want to be you want to have kids yeah you want to be do you want to be

01:04:17.820 working or do you want the guy to provide totally um they don't have to like provide totally but i

01:04:25.020 do think like it's helpful to your family to have like like the more the more i like get am able to

01:04:31.500 like fully give into my kids like the more you know like that's like in their like best interest

01:04:36.780 but not that i should just like stay at home and like do nothing all day like okay i'll like pursue

01:04:41.020 my own passions in the same way that i like would want my partner to pursue their own like personal

01:04:44.060 passions as well but yeah it's okay you want a traditional man do you consider yourself a

01:04:48.540 traditional woman i do now yes you do now yes but i grew up when i was growing up i was like

01:04:57.660 radically like with the exception of the

01:05:02.540 sexual purity component of being a traditional woman no i like aligned with that as well

01:05:08.140 you do yeah but just earlier you said people change yeah people change fair enough fair enough

01:05:16.780 that's her past and her past is her business fair enough okay uh we're gonna move on so i wanted to

01:05:22.060 do this a bit earlier on in the show but before i get into we're gonna do a couple video reactions

01:05:26.940 and then i got some other questions is there anything dating related that you want to get off your chest

01:05:32.620 so i'm gonna give you guys a couple prompts so maybe maybe you recently had a bad date experience

01:05:37.260 men are pissing you off in some way there's a trend in dating that annoys you

01:05:43.100 frustration etc oh me yeah oh i miss i i don't know see i'm like recently single right and i'm like

01:05:53.420 very new to the dating world like i was with this person for two years and like that's really like

01:05:58.300 the only person that i've ever been with like kind of in all sense so i don't really know like what guys

01:06:04.620 are like dating but i guess i would say that i wish they would like i wish they would ask like me on a

01:06:10.540 date you want a guy to ask you out on the day yeah like that's all i want like i don't want it just to

01:06:15.980 be like how fast can i like get i feel like it's all about like sex which is kind of sad which i mean

01:06:21.980 people have different things that they want but i feel like it's like you should get to know someone

01:06:26.940 first and like i think a date is really sweet so okay so you'd like you'd like a guy instead of just

01:06:33.020 saying come over yeah like let's hook up what are you doing at midnight yeah like call make a reservation

01:06:41.100 pick me up like that okay and then should he pay for the date too okay so i used to be like in my

01:06:49.180 past relationship i would split the bill i would actually pay for the bill a lot of the times i would

01:06:53.020 buy dinner a lot and like i think when you're in a relationship it should be more equal but like

01:06:58.140 when a guy's taking you on a date i think it for me personally it shows that he's willing to like

01:07:01.740 invest in me like damn i'm not worth a 20 meal like that's kind of like a little bit heartbreaking and

01:07:07.500 like i said i like more traditional roles so i and i'm more of like a traditional woman myself like 0.97

01:07:13.260 you said you have to like upkeep that i can you know so like i would i think it just shows that

01:07:18.300 they're willing to invest in you and that's that's just if you can't spend 20 on me then like how do

01:07:22.860 you how are you going to be a good boyfriend like you're okay sure sure but no that's that's totally

01:07:29.100 fair i think definitely uh the sort of dating meta as it is now it's very it's not let's do the

01:07:37.740 traditional date but i think a lot of that is due to a lot of men have been burned when they've tried

01:07:45.100 to do the right thing and say hey let me take you out on the date and then they get okay i'll tell

01:07:52.060 you guys my experience from from me trying to do the right thing right so 50 of the time the girl will

01:08:01.980 flake one to two hours before the date even if i've set it up days in advance i say we'll meet here this

01:08:09.260 time 50 of the time they flake and that's like that's not the girl for you then that's then she's

01:08:15.180 trash or like then that's like that's but look down on her but if if it's something that a lot of men 1.00

01:08:22.380 are encountering then they're going to start adjusting how they're approaching dating if it's 1.00

01:08:28.300 so frequent that they get flaked on and by the way a lot of the time it's some bullshit fucking excuse 0.99

01:08:33.340 and then you check their instagram later that night they're at the fucking boat party so like we know 0.99

01:08:38.460 the thing is is like a lot of women say oh guys don't want to commit why are guys so commitment 0.96

01:08:45.340 phobic when our experience with dating women a lot of y'all can't even commit to a first date well i'm

01:08:51.580 gonna like break your heart a little bit but like she's probably not that into you like if she feels

01:08:55.660 like that then she just doesn't yeah well i'm sorry no so a a plan came along another plan came along

01:09:03.500 that to her was probably more exciting than going on a date with me then she doesn't like you and 0.97

01:09:08.780 she doesn't want a relationship that's like point blank period well i mean you probably shouldn't

01:09:15.660 and you don't like you shouldn't let it get that far well also like you shouldn't agree to go on a

01:09:20.300 date only to cancel even from like a friend perspective if you agree to meet someone somewhere

01:09:26.060 and you cancel an hour beforehand maybe i'm old-fashioned that's fucking rude i think it's 0.99

01:09:30.860 rude too but it's super rude like you so we were kind of generalizing men right you're totally 0.95

01:09:36.380 generalizing women right now and i'm not saying all women no i'm not saying all women i i said of my

01:09:42.060 experiences probably 50 percent of the time women will flake within a few hours of the date yeah and 1.00

01:09:48.460 it's like some bogus fucking excuse either they get cold feet or a hotter guy came along because women 1.00

01:09:53.180 have a lot of fucking options it's not the hotter guy i can tell you as a flaky woman myself which i'm 0.99

01:09:58.620 not proud to say i am not proud to say that because there are genuinely like really good guys out there 0.98

01:10:03.420 and i just know that like this date will be great if i just go on it but it's genuinely like this okay

01:10:09.740 i can't speak for other women but me whenever i flake on a guy it's me getting cold feet and just being 0.87

01:10:15.500 too nervous to follow through with it because like we're just as nervous as you guys it's just like

01:10:19.900 somehow guys have the willpower to push through especially because if you made the plans that is

01:10:24.380 really fucked up i would say like if i'm gonna flake on a guy i'm gonna do it like at least a 0.98

01:10:27.100 day in advance not an hour before because that's just really fucked up it is especially like if a 0.99

01:10:31.260 girl gives me a bit more advance notice like the day before at least then i can like make new plans 0.91

01:10:35.980 i can finagle some other yeah but you flake on me an hour before i'm not ruined yeah it's a wash no

01:10:42.780 other girl like i'm not gonna get another girl so yeah that's fair but like i don't even think it's

01:10:46.780 like a personal thing a lot of the times like i could be wrong maybe other flaky girls have 1.00

01:10:51.420 different things to say but as a flaky girl i would say like it's just us being too like nervous

01:10:56.700 to follow through with it and i don't even know what it is because like from the few dates that i

01:11:00.940 have gone on i've never had like a terrible horrible traumatizing experience they usually go just fine

01:11:07.260 it's just the idea of actually committing to that first date is what's scary and then like

01:11:11.660 sometimes i'll like really like the first date and then they get another date and it's like wow

01:11:14.780 i had nothing to be afraid of but like it's really just getting them to push past that initial

01:11:19.660 like not wanting to meet you and i think a lot of it for girls like if it's a dating app especially

01:11:24.060 or they haven't met you in person and they don't know what you're like it's just the like idea of

01:11:28.540 not knowing that person whatsoever whereas if like someone that i had met before even if it was just like

01:11:34.060 randomly if they asked me on a date just because i already know them and like what their

01:11:39.740 like persona is kind of like i'm a lot more likely to say yes to that than a complete stranger so i think

01:11:44.460 it's just being a stranger 0.79

01:11:48.540 shit's still annoying yeah that's still fucking annoying but uh yeah i think defending it i'm 0.99

01:11:53.900 just saying like it's not even you it's just flaky girls being flaky girls which sucks i won't i 0.99

01:11:59.100 won't say it's okay like we're not okay for that like i can i've i've maybe flaked on a girl once 0.90

01:12:06.780 twice and like had legitimate excuses but it seems like and i've i've heard had a lot of guys tell me

01:12:16.220 this like they have pretty similar experiences where it's just some bullshit oh i'm tired okay 0.97

01:12:24.060 okay you're fucking so am i yeah i'm probably more tired than you but i still made okay 0.99

01:12:31.180 calm down so okay he's going off over there he has something off his chest well okay the other thing 0.99

01:12:36.220 the other thing with the flakiness is that like beyond just romantic shit getting girls on this 0.97

01:12:43.020 podcast let me tell you guys for the past dozen shows i've had at least every show two to four girls 0.91

01:12:50.700 will flake with like a few hours before the show and then today we had two today we had two no call

01:12:57.900 no shows so they didn't even say they weren't going to come they were scheduled to come confirmed just

01:13:03.820 no showed didn't even let me know so i mean it it kind of does start grating at you a little bit

01:13:11.660 because it's it's obviously frustrating especially trying to schedule something like this so anyways um

01:13:17.180 so okay your thing is it's annoying guys are not being traditional and then do you want to come in

01:13:23.820 on this on the uh your uh something you want to get off your chest dating related

01:13:31.820 i could come back to you if you want yeah anything going on okay

01:13:38.220 i've talked a lot already like okay

01:13:40.540 anything bad date anything dating related you want to get off your chest

01:13:51.580 if you're a sneaky link stay a sneaky link don't try to get out of the sneaky link area

01:13:56.940 that's my thing like you know like if you're a sneaky link that's what you're there for so

01:14:02.220 can you hear me yeah i hate how like if you're a sneaky link you try to like

01:14:06.540 move out of there and try to like no so you've had experiences where guys

01:14:12.620 were your sneaky link and they wanted something more serious yeah and like was it you that wanted

01:14:17.820 something no they did they did and i'm like okay with what i do for like from promoting like it's

01:14:24.140 hard for me to be in a relationship because i literally at the clubs downtown i basically lived

01:14:29.980 there thursday through sunday and so like it's just impossible for me to date so like i have 0.85

01:14:36.700 a sneaky link for a motherfucking reason you know and you should stay like that don't try to get out 0.87

01:14:41.580 of the sneaky link phase did you tell him that he was just a sneaky link or did you kind of like 0.94

01:14:47.340 because i think that's a huge issue that guys and girls have is like they'll have a sneaky link and

01:14:52.140 they won't they won't they'll they'll put forward these these feelings because you're like i want to

01:14:56.780 keep it this way i want to keep hooking up with them right that leading them on and then it it 1.00

01:15:01.660 turns to either the girl being like hey like can we go out or something and the guy's like no what 0.82

01:15:06.380 the fuck i would you're just a hook up to me or vice versa like how you're saying where it's just 0.91

01:15:12.860 you know yeah i feel like you have to be pretty clear on what's going on oh no he he knows what he 1.00

01:15:19.340 is i don't have to go i mean i didn't like write it in paper and have him sign it but he knows what

01:15:25.100 he is you know and i get what you mean because like i've even been in the position where like

01:15:29.660 i started growing feelings for my singing so i knew what because girls you know like they start 1.00

01:15:34.700 growing feelings because you have a attachment once you have sex with them there's so much like

01:15:40.220 you know and so i felt like you just need to be like hey you're my secret link you know just for

01:15:47.180 people in the chat who might not know what that is can you get can you just explain what the sneaky link 0.99

01:15:51.340 is well a sneaky link is someone that you fuck when you want to fuck you know and there's no 0.97

01:15:59.660 strings attached and um that's it and that's all how many sneaky links do you have at the moment 1.00

01:16:06.940 no you're not gonna do that danger all right nah i don't give a fuck um 0.98

01:16:12.700 do it well i have one that a current one that kind of beat all of them loki like physically no like 0.95

01:16:24.780 no like is in is runner up right now so it kind of like he knocked out kind of like the other ones

01:16:30.860 so like how many were there before he knocked out the other ones i mean there's like three

01:16:37.980 three three ish three sneaky links ish yeah so four five we'll say three

01:16:54.140 wow um how many do you guys want to answer how many sneaky links you guys currently have

01:16:59.660 um i mean i guess i just have like one like oh he's just like always there i guess he like is my

01:17:08.780 neighbor so oh i can just walk over to his room oh that's the best yeah um one as well but yeah

01:17:20.540 how about you i wouldn't like say i have any sneaky links because like

01:17:25.100 sneaky links are just like casual hookups so and you don't do casual hookups right 0.95

01:17:29.660 currently one no no i don't do casual hookups luke i have one damn 0.93

01:17:39.100 rock and roll um okay so anything dating related you want to get off your chest

01:17:44.140 um not really more like she said about like dates and stuff like that but other than that not really

01:17:51.340 so you you want guys to take you out on dates yeah yeah yeah but you have a sneaky link

01:18:00.060 yeah but they should that preclude you from no no that's like she said like sneaky links days like

01:18:07.020 that you know yeah okay and then when we're ready to hang up the gloves and date and we're ready to

01:18:11.980 hang up the gloves and date anything you want to get off your chest dating related um it's not really

01:18:19.260 like about dating but i just feel like here in isla vista as like a student nobody wants to date like

01:18:24.940 here i just feel like it's all like hookup culture and like it would be hard to find a relationship

01:18:29.420 here i think i like don't feel the same i i feel like you it's more like hookups

01:18:38.380 why do you disagree i just like i have just had like a few experience i've had like

01:18:45.740 i don't know quite a few experiences where like guys like we'll just like take it really fast and after

01:18:50.700 like just like go fast really quickly and after like two like i just had to like end something like

01:18:58.620 earlier this past week because it was honestly just like going too fast and like

01:19:02.940 was yeah i don't know i've had to like cut things off because it was like

01:19:07.340 i don't know people but like i just got a relationship so i'm not looking for anything so

01:19:12.220 yeah but also i think like if you want dates it's really about like the boundaries you set with guys to

01:19:17.980 be honest like i mean correct me if like i'm wrong but i think like guys make like an assessment of the

01:19:24.700 person they're like maybe pursuing like pretty early on i feel like guys will kind of get away

01:19:29.740 with whatever you let them get away with so if you like have your standards when you first meet as

01:19:33.820 like we'll like just meet up at a party or like you can just come over later that's they're never gonna

01:19:40.780 you can't come back from that but if you're like boundary when you meet a guy is like

01:19:44.220 kind of distance you're kind of hard to get a hold of but if you like he's like putting an effort

01:19:48.700 to see you and you like agree to it when it's something you like are willing to like go for

01:19:54.220 then like that's a date i mean it's that simple it's more just like you need to set boundaries

01:19:58.220 of like how you want to be like the type of like you know treatment when you want to expect but that's

01:20:03.340 like my assessment of like how guys look at it to be honest word word so i mean i don't know if i

01:20:15.420 want to respond to that uh i mean the other thing i would say is that if you're as a woman you can sleep

01:20:22.940 with men that are more physically attractive than you are so just be wary if you're seeing a guy

01:20:33.180 who's outside of your league and if you don't have this is why i think it's important women have a 1.00

01:20:38.620 fair self-assessment of their own physical attractiveness because they might not know

01:20:42.700 this guy's out of my league if the guy you're seeing is out of your league he's not going to

01:20:45.820 commit to you he'll sleep with you he'll keep you around because i think what women 1.00

01:20:50.540 where women kind of get into trouble is we'll put women into two different categories we have the hookup 1.00

01:20:56.620 only category and relationship wife marriage category so whereas women you kind of have 1.00

01:21:05.100 like for you to sleep with a guy you're probably going to see him as potential relationship

01:21:12.060 potential i mean apparently not with the sneaky link stuff but it sounds like that's more so because

01:21:17.180 you're very busy but but i think for most women like for you to sleep with a guy you're you have to 1.00

01:21:23.340 see some potential there but guys we'll just sleep with you we'll sleep with you and keep you around

01:21:29.260 but we will net we will not commit to you so yeah i would say that i am no better than a man

01:21:37.820 you also can separate the two you separate the two okay yeah yeah fair enough fair enough okay so we're

01:21:47.420 gonna do get some you know what we have to react to video but we do got some super chats coming in

01:21:52.380 so we will react to the soup chats here shortly uh so let me see what we have here okay hold on guys

01:22:02.940 we so we were recently featured on steven crowder's louder with crowder podcast um i guess he reacted to

01:22:12.220 one of our videos i re-chopped it because someone ripped the one of my videos and then they added 0.98

01:22:19.340 this dog shit music and then removed the watermark added this dog shit watermark so i kind of re-edited 0.93

01:22:25.260 the video a little bit but eric if you can go ahead and pull up the video and it's the crowder one 0.98

01:22:35.340 all right so let's watch this uh first really quickly there is a group of women on a podcast 1.00

01:22:39.020 yesterday this is making the rounds uh and i guess the host i'm not familiar with it but the host

01:22:43.660 kind of you know called them the task and they didn't know what to do with it they're proclaiming

01:22:48.140 what a wonderful thing it is uh for women in their 20s to not be in relationships and they use these

01:22:53.100 broad terms like explore themselves anyway just see how this goes down i know that they're talking

01:22:57.740 to a bunch of guys so why would i close myself off wait yo just that one guy can you can you just

01:23:03.740 put it back a bit eric like why would i take someone seriously put it to 70. put it back

01:23:07.740 on me seriously at all especially because we're all in the back put it back no no no no no yeah yeah

01:23:15.980 no no that's good you can play sorry a truck drove by is it and put the volume at 70.

01:23:24.300 no no no no no no yeah yeah but put the volume to 70. okay yeah play it

01:23:29.740 what a wonderful thing it is uh for women in their 20s to not be in relationships and they use these

01:23:35.820 broad terms like explore themselves anyway just see how this goes down i know that they're talking to

01:23:40.620 a bunch of guys so why would i close myself off to just that one guy right i don't know do you guys

01:23:47.020 agree yeah like why would i take someone seriously when clearly yeah not taking me seriously at all

01:23:52.700 especially because we're all like in our early 20s like this is the time to like explore and find

01:23:58.300 yourself too exactly when you say explore and find yourself does that mean

01:24:06.060 just like get run through by a bunch of dudes just no i just want to translate

01:24:10.060 where did you get that i'm just like i'm just translating literally finding who you are like

01:24:16.620 the correct answer is yes that's what they meant for girls yes here's the thing you know we're in our

01:24:22.300 20s yeah you know you know the world war ii was won by women in their 20s like that was a big part

01:24:27.420 of you know the war effort like back in the day women in their 20s were working they had children 0.95

01:24:32.220 they had established families they had a home you don't have to in your 20s have a bunch of

01:24:37.420 meaningless relationships in one night stands it is true it is there is a double standard just to be

01:24:41.900 clear there is a double and it's not that we're setting it biology is setting the standard men don't

01:24:47.020 have that kind of a window men can have kids well into their gosh abraham i mean you go like it probably

01:24:52.140 into your 90s i don't know but i'm sure it can be done i mean you need assistance but uh you do have

01:24:57.900 a certain win and if you're saying oh i'm going to waste my 20s and women often get into their 30s 1.00

01:25:02.620 and they go oh they end up settling say i'm not going to settle for anything less than perfect when

01:25:06.540 you're in your 20s and then you end up settling for a trash bag in your 30s because now you're up 0.95

01:25:11.500 against the clock and i'm not saying just to be clear people use this term slut shaming all the 0.90

01:25:15.660 time can you pause it it's not i'm not and just put it center center okay so your guys's uh

01:25:23.660 reaction to that clip and there's a few talking points he touched on but do you have an initial

01:25:29.340 reaction to anything he said i mean i think women are free to do like like it's all preference like

01:25:36.380 for me i do not partake in hookup culture i don't do i don't really do that like but that's

01:25:42.060 a personal preference why am i to judge anyone else who does or who doesn't it's not my place

01:25:49.100 at all and the fact that men can do it without being shamed is like a little bit it's a flex like

01:25:54.060 it's to some people think it's a flex when a guy has a high body count but when a girl does it's like 0.90

01:25:59.020 the opposite you know which i think is a little bit unfair would you is it fair to say life is unfair

01:26:05.580 i mean is there is there a reason why it's unfair i think like for some reason like women are looked 0.93

01:26:13.980 down upon but it's like they have that freedom the same way men do and i think like the whole point

01:26:19.660 of being like a feminist or like having like for everyone to be equal is like to have that choice and 1.00

01:26:25.260 to not be judged for what your choice is

01:26:27.420 so you think that the double standard is not justified that men are viewed as studs and women

01:26:36.300 are viewed as sluts yeah i don't think that's justified and that's also like it's like like i

01:26:43.500 said like i as i was saying the podcast i want a traditional man i don't do hookups but like i don't

01:26:48.380 judge any of my friends i don't judge any people that i know like it's it's not my place to judge anyone at all

01:26:57.900 anybody i'll respond to that but i want to let everyone come in i mean it kind of sounds like

01:27:05.100 there's an issue with women not an issue necessarily but maybe just like some criticism

01:27:11.660 with women not wanting to spend their early 20s doing their own thing and like when you said like

01:27:17.980 getting ran through why can't that be us in our college years working on our career why does it have

01:27:23.420 to be getting ran through because that's exploring ourselves i know what you mean though like

01:27:27.340 if you're not in a relationship what else are you doing but like i would not want to be in a

01:27:32.060 relationship settling down seriously right now or anytime soon and i'm 21 in my early 20s realistically

01:27:39.340 i don't see myself at that point for at least a few years unless like who knows maybe i meet somebody

01:27:44.540 super cool and like we get married tomorrow never know doubt it but i don't see that realistically for

01:27:50.940 myself for a while and i don't really like think about my biology that's going on or the fact that

01:27:57.340 i'm not going to be able to reproduce kids as easily later on down the path like i don't see why that

01:28:02.380 should be a criticism for young women when like we should be able to take things at our own pace just 1.00

01:28:07.020 because men might be more eager or more ready to settle down and they don't want a woman that is still 0.92

01:28:13.500 out there single i don't see why that's like our problem i guess

01:28:22.220 one problem like the main one of the main reasons i like sort of like distance myself from the feminist 1.00

01:28:28.220 movement like sort of relates to this and it's sort of like the myth that like it's a it's good for a

01:28:34.300 woman to be engaged in hookup culture that it's like good for a woman to be engaged in hookup culture 1.00

01:28:39.420 because i like don't think that's true i think it's like pretty damaging for women but it's like 1.00

01:28:44.060 somehow advertised as like this is good for you and i cannot see like how there would be like any

01:28:52.140 like that it's like necessarily good for women and then also just like the point like about like

01:28:57.100 honestly like i'm if if i my assessment of those girls saying like they want their time to like

01:29:01.980 explore themselves in their 20s it would be like to sleep around but like the irony that i just feel

01:29:07.580 like isn't really like told women is like how you really find yourself is by like spending time 1.00

01:29:13.100 like alone like not like i the period where i like found myself was like in high school when i was like

01:29:19.180 never like talking to guys ever like that that was like yeah so i yeah those are just like two myths

01:29:25.740 of like modern feminism that like relate to this that i feel like are like bad for what what was the 1.00

01:29:30.940 what was the first one that you said it was uh that's that like hookup culture is good for women 1.00

01:29:35.980 so why why do you think it's bad how can like how can like sleeping with a guy who has like no 0.79

01:29:48.140 like incentive to like pleasure you serve you i just like don't understand that like

01:29:56.300 if that makes sense and i think it's advertised it's like it's empowering to sleep around

01:30:01.180 and i don't think it is i think it's just like to me in my head that kind of like serves men like a lot

01:30:07.500 more than it like might serve serve women i mean there's the positive side of it which is like don't 1.00

01:30:11.580 slut shame girls who are sexual and want to like express themselves sexually but the bad side is like i feel

01:30:19.260 like and saying that like you're like but i equally have like friend girlfriends in college who are like 0.97

01:30:25.740 shamed for being a virgin which that yeah if that makes sense like shamed for like not sleeping with 0.86

01:30:31.740 guys i have friends like that i have a best you have women that are shamed for being virgins yes 1.00

01:30:35.980 probably very rare but i've heard i mean i've heard shamed by other girls i mean shamed by other girls

01:30:41.420 who are by women who are yes yes shamed by other well shamed by other girls who think it's like

01:30:47.900 they're like they're confused and they like like are doing something bad for themselves by not

01:30:54.540 sleeping with men i could see i could see that because because their virginity is probably some 1.00

01:30:59.740 sort of a uh like a looking mirror and they're like oh i'm a hoe 0.97

01:31:08.380 i don't think that's what she meant at all i mean no the women the women that are judging just that i

01:31:13.660 think we're conditioned to think that like sleeping around is not only like normal as a woman but good 0.99

01:31:19.100 for you like you're getting something out of it you're empowering yourself you're like that i

01:31:23.100 think is like spread around i think that's where it comes from well i mean my my take on this would

01:31:28.940 be the only women that would shame women who are virgins must be promiscuous women a woman who's 1.00

01:31:38.220 value who has some degree of sexual purity or is a virgin herself is not going to shame 0.95

01:31:43.740 another woman who's a virgin oh yeah well i mean yeah someone who's like has a low body count a low 1.00

01:31:49.900 body count woman is not going to shame a woman who is a virgin yeah yeah definitely not that's 0.99

01:31:54.780 that's my sense of it anyways so yeah getting some stares from the girls at the table on this one 0.65

01:32:02.860 i'm lost completely i'm completely lost what what do you mean why you lost no which is

01:32:08.620 that do you disagree with her what about what she said yeah i don't agree or disagree it's whatever

01:32:15.900 she i mean i sleep at night fine if i agree or disagree or not you know like it doesn't

01:32:21.500 i mean i'm you know for me i do it for my own pleasure you know so yeah and you mentioned

01:32:31.660 when you mentioned like the whole one night stand thing or you mentioned pleasure are you saying and i i

01:32:39.020 think you're you would be right in saying this most women are probably more likely to be able to 1.00

01:32:45.420 climax with a partner if it's a continuous partner versus just hook up hook up hook up like and you

01:32:51.500 said guys aren't particularly focused on women's pleasure in a one night stand like i've had like

01:32:57.740 friends who have been with like a lot of guys like many many many many guys and never came like before

01:33:05.340 ever until until like so in my head i'm like how can you like what are you getting you just have to

01:33:11.980 like sit back and be like what are you getting out of this like why are you doing this and i think it

01:33:16.620 come like girls do it because they think it's something empowering like in some ways it is you 0.98

01:33:20.620 know in those like masculine ways of like oh the chase like compiling a list like and understand why

01:33:25.020 like some types of girls would like get basically just like an ego boost validation from it but i think 1.00

01:33:29.980 it's that's just more like turning inward and being like is validation is like an ego boost worth like

01:33:37.020 my like you know i don't know like my body yeah

01:33:46.140 anyone want to come in on that i think that like the problem with that statement is that

01:33:52.300 maybe girls are empowering each other to like indulge in hookup culture but as a society 1.00

01:33:59.980 it's a lot more rare for women to be like embracing hookup culture than it is for men men

01:34:06.460 it's almost always going to be congratulated if they're indulging in hookup culture or getting with

01:34:11.660 a lot of women but it's a lot more rare for women and like even from other women there is 0.83

01:34:16.780 slut shaming and like being looked down upon and i don't think it's necessarily that hookup culture is

01:34:21.420 a good thing but i think it's just that women should be allowed to partake in that if men are also

01:34:28.460 like it shouldn't be that we're looked down upon for wanting to have that just because we're a

01:34:33.500 woman and we're supposed to be seen as innocent and like low body count and like again i think 0.95

01:34:38.780 it's such a highly personal thing that like if you yourself don't want to be partaking in hookup culture

01:34:45.180 that is fine don't but if you do not everyone that is is like sleeping with just the sleazy men

01:34:51.260 and not everyone like just your friends are like hooking up with all these guys and never coming

01:34:55.340 some people have a really great time in hookup culture but i just think that it's so much more

01:34:59.260 common for women to look down upon okay who who's having a great time in hookup culture 1.00

01:35:04.540 i wouldn't i'd say it's not the women really i'd say the top tier men yeah definitely men over women

01:35:10.140 but that's because men are i think more commonly taking part in hookup culture women who are just 0.98

01:35:15.020 sleeping with a bunch of guys are probably like the the least happy people yeah i was gonna say like

01:35:21.900 have some girls try out like and just see for themselves like how do they feel about themselves 0.97

01:35:27.740 and like their life and like what they're like doing with their time by like spending like three

01:35:32.780 months taking like dating detox you know like no guys whatever and just and then going back into it

01:35:39.420 and like only spending time with guys in like a serious way like just try out like three months of

01:35:45.420 like telling guys no when it comes to sex see how you feel and like i just wonder if girls did that

01:35:50.460 how how would make it how it would how would make them feel like and which made them feel better about

01:35:55.420 themselves and like their worth and stuff i think the need for or like the the thought that women need 1.00

01:36:00.940 to hook up or like you were saying a lot of women are going into this hookup culture a lot right 1.00

01:36:06.060 i think it's more of an ego boost for them because i mean that's how it is for guys too it's like 0.97

01:36:10.940 you know i got with this girl fuck yeah bro which that's a whole thing because it's way easier for 0.99

01:36:16.540 a woman to get sex than a man it's that's just how it is societally like so i think it's it's more of 1.00

01:36:24.060 like an ego thing like hey all these guys want me all these guys want me and i think women should

01:36:29.020 start saying like like no bro like you're not you're not you're not that guy well maybe i'm just horny

01:36:35.260 because that's not me you know like but also maybe i'm just horny if you're actually getting

01:36:40.460 like pleasure out of it and like you are finishing and it's it's a good environment like you were

01:36:44.940 saying then i think it's fine if you're sticking to one guy yeah but if it's like if you're sleeping

01:36:50.940 with a bunch of different guys oh yeah that's and you're not finishing or you're not getting any real

01:36:55.660 pleasure like full satisfied pleasure out of it right it's like well what what what's the point with

01:37:01.740 that yeah yeah that's exactly what i'm saying okay yeah that's not me but that's like where we're

01:37:05.740 saying like if you're a girl in hookup culture you're automatically having a bad time which i think

01:37:10.460 is a very negative stereotype that has been portrayed and i think like me i prefer right now

01:37:17.580 at least while i'm in my early 20s taking part in hookup culture and doing whatever i want to do

01:37:23.820 rather than just being tied down right now and like i understand that that's not what everyone wants

01:37:28.380 but like i think that it's just more normalized for men to be in hookup culture than it is for

01:37:33.980 women and i'm not saying that it's a good thing for women to be in hookup culture not saying that 1.00

01:37:38.220 it's a good thing for men either but i just think that it's way more looked down upon for women than

01:37:42.620 it is for men there's a reason for that what do you please tell us brian i'd love to hear more well so

01:37:51.420 by the way and you so you mentioned a couple things there first off as a woman you should be if you 0.96

01:37:56.700 want to sleep with a bunch of dudes you're more than welcome to do it you're free to do it but

01:38:01.980 what you're going to run into is guys are going to look at that if we know that you had a promiscuous 0.99

01:38:09.180 past we're probably not going to take you seriously most men for long-term commitment for marriage

01:38:15.740 this is my wife you slept with 50 dudes it's a wrap i'm sorry but the same thing and most guys 0.99

01:38:23.740 aren't even going to tell you that though you most guys would be like babe i don't care i don't mind

01:38:29.180 like you can you can ask your friends oh i don't care about body count deep down in their i know in

01:38:35.660 their heart it's going to be an issue so you're free to you're free to do whatever you want and men are

01:38:40.540 also free to not want to wife you up to not want to put a ring on your finger to not take you seriously

01:38:46.620 because of your past just like women have all sorts of standards preferences and boundaries for men 0.98

01:38:51.820 one of the preferences standards and boundaries that men have for women is was her past was she 1.00

01:38:59.500 promiscuous and for a lot of men that's a big deal breaker and for a lot of women it's not because

01:39:06.140 we have been taught that it's okay for men to partake in that hookup culture and to rack their 0.99

01:39:10.300 body count up as much as they can not that it's okay because we did have this talk last time we are

01:39:13.980 allowed to have our own standards but a lot of us as women look past those standards because of the

01:39:19.100 society's norms of men that they're allowed to do that and it's okay for them and i think that's

01:39:25.420 where the real issue is not whether it's okay or whether it's not okay but whether like how we're

01:39:30.220 looking at it really well yeah there's definitely a double standard 100 uh i think there's biological

01:39:37.020 reasons for that uh so i mean well there's biological and evolutionary reasons why men care about

01:39:44.940 a woman's past promiscuity or current promiscuity and women care less i think for a for a guy if 1.00

01:39:52.220 he's promiscuous and he's sleeping with a lot of women that means he can get women women are kind of

01:39:57.180 attracted if a guy can get a lot of girls that's that says something about him yeah but he's attractive 0.80

01:40:03.500 plenty of guys will get with like any girl kind of is that what you're saying that like as a girl 0.97

01:40:08.060 i'm saying it's really easy to get like any guy to like when i've that's with you but as a guy it's

01:40:12.700 like really hard to get a lot of girls to want to that's that's that's a great point showing that's

01:40:19.260 a great point that's exactly what i was going to say for men it's fairly difficult to sleep with women 0.97

01:40:24.300 for women it's very easy like no guys you're not going to get congratulated for sleeping with a guy 1.00

01:40:32.220 that's that's easy you'll get congratulated for retaining a guy you'll get the congratulations for

01:40:38.860 like the no no no you want to be my boyfriend but women's so when it comes to the say the uh dating 1.00

01:40:46.540 marketplace the women's framework of success is retaining a hot like a high value guy yeah the the 1.00

01:40:56.860 quality of the guy that you can retain if you can sleep with 30 dudes i mean that's not

01:41:02.220 but they never talk to you again that's not really like impressive but as a guy if you can

01:41:08.700 sleep with 30 women that's kind of impressive because you must be bringing something to the 0.96

01:41:13.900 table either you're just really good looking dude you're confident you're charismatic high

01:41:19.580 you've got status or you're wealthy all these things you as a woman you don't really need any of 0.90

01:41:25.900 those things even including looks to sleep with a guy even unremarkable women can run circles around 1.00

01:41:35.020 like top tier looking guys in terms of looks in terms of just getting laid in terms of just having

01:41:42.140 sex so the sort of metrics are a little bit different but it's hard for dudes to get laid and as far as

01:41:49.740 as which is why i think it's a lie in like equality so like if feminism means equality and that means 1.00

01:41:57.180 it's good for a man to sleep with 50 girls and it's good for a girl to see with 50 guys like that's 0.99

01:42:02.540 where like it just breaks down that's where i feel like feminism like lies to girls when they say it's 1.00

01:42:08.140 empowering it's like good for you to what like give in to this like ego like this sense of validation like

01:42:13.260 why don't you find your self-worth like within yourself of like what you're doing not like

01:42:17.660 how many like bodies you have like that is just like so foreign well i don't know if anyone thinks 1.00

01:42:22.700 of feminism as like your body count because like that doesn't like seem i think a lot of people do 1.00

01:42:28.380 i think a lot of hookup culture like a lot of like women who participate in hookup culture like 1.00

01:42:33.580 do like the most the staple of feminism is like sexual i said it earlier the staple of feminism is seen 1.00

01:42:38.700 as like how promiscuous are it's acting out your sexual freedom i'd have to like disagree in a way

01:42:44.220 it's not acting out the sexual freedom but more the ability to do that because back in the day

01:42:51.580 feminism like when things were rising like women weren't even allowed to do that stuff kind of be 1.00

01:42:56.860 able to be promiscuous in that way and like feminism was created it was in the 60s and it was like because 0.98

01:43:02.780 they couldn't like get jobs and like well okay i mean feminism has been going on i believe 1.00

01:43:08.620 since the uh late 1800s you you guys can look up the seneca falls convention

01:43:19.020 there's all kind there's all kinds of directions we can go with with that one but um one of the

01:43:24.300 components of feminism beyond just okay you had in the the 19 the early 1900s you know there's 1.00

01:43:31.020 suffrage women wanting to secure the vote and then equal access to the workplace but a big component of 0.99

01:43:37.420 feminism was sort of sexual liberation so that i i think yes you're right to say that there's a

01:43:44.700 sexual component to feminism sexual liberation and i mean either way i'm just talking about feminism 0.82

01:43:49.420 right now in terms of hookup culture i'm not talking about 1800s feminism rights to vote right for 1.00

01:43:54.380 divorce that's not what we're talking about here i'm just i just brought up the point that i feel like

01:43:58.220 modern day feminism is lying to girls when they say sleeping around is empowering you that's all i was like 0.84

01:44:04.460 saying i just think it's dumb that like guys are congratulated for like hooking up with a girl but 0.99

01:44:11.580 then like if a girl were to like tell like her friends that she'd probably be called like a whore

01:44:16.060 or something but like i used to hang out with these people over the summer and like this guy he'd always

01:44:20.780 be like oh yeah i just got with this chick like blah blah and his friends would be like oh like good

01:44:24.940 job but then there was this one girl that was like participating in hookup culture and they would just like 1.00

01:44:30.860 call her a whore and like shame her all the time and then she would just like come over and be like 1.00

01:44:35.660 hey oh my god you're here like we missed you and act like they never said that 0.97

01:44:42.860 yeah and like the equality thing like i don't think it's like feminism is lying to women saying that 1.00

01:44:50.140 that's empowering i think that the actual issue is that men are still judging women for that whereas

01:44:55.900 it's not the equality and like if we never reach that level equal of equality yeah it's going to be

01:45:01.980 looked down upon for women but that's the change that kind of needs to happen and it's not going 1.00

01:45:05.980 to anytime soon i can guarantee that so you don't so you don't think that men should judge women if

01:45:11.740 they have a promiscuous past well i think like men can yes that is your own choice but only if you're

01:45:17.660 going to follow those same standards for yourself if you're going to hold yourself to this so those same

01:45:21.740 standards don't be a man with 100 plus body count looking for a girl with three bodies you know 1.00

01:45:27.580 that's just not fair like if you are a guy that wants to stay to yourself only hook up with a few

01:45:32.540 people little to none find a girl that's that same way that's fine that's for you but if you're a guy

01:45:37.260 that's hooking up with a lot of girls don't judge a girl because she's done the same that's just where 1.00

01:45:41.180 the inequality comes into play yeah but it's the only men that like like slut shame like it's it can be

01:45:48.460 like anyone it can be like girls as well yeah girls as well i'm just talking relationship wise

01:45:53.100 like if we're talking about somebody that you're choosing choose somebody that's like you then

01:45:57.340 don't judge somebody because they're not like you that's just where things turn wrong i i would

01:46:02.540 actually on ella's point there i would actually say that while men do slut shame it's probably

01:46:08.140 actually women who slut shame more interesting i don't know i feel about that i haven't experienced

01:46:14.620 that personally really you know i haven't i haven't experienced that if you're talking okay

01:46:19.820 i haven't experienced girls like slut shame more than guys i haven't experienced that like not 0.75

01:46:24.620 directly but more like if you tell me oh yeah my body count is blah blah and i go to ac but like it's 0.90

01:46:30.140 always like that i think that's fucked up though i just don't be with girls like that girls talk more 0.99

01:46:35.260 shit than guys yeah like girls talk way more i don't think you guys have been in like a locker room 0.99

01:46:40.620 i don't know if you're like like my best friends dating like a basketball player like her 1.00

01:46:46.140 like that i can tell you they have slut shamed more like what she tells me what they talk about is 0.98

01:46:51.900 the one thousand times worse of like a slut shaming than like i've ever heard girls say 1.00

01:46:57.740 or it doesn't even have to be your friend like someone you know like if you're walking down the

01:47:02.300 street sure and people like talk you know like even guys they pillow talk so they tell people oh

01:47:06.940 i slept with her so even a girl down the street they're gonna be like oh i know her she slept with 1.00

01:47:11.340 she's a hoe you know so like that like it doesn't even have to be someone close to you someone that 1.00

01:47:15.900 thinks they know something about you and you're walking you know i want to ask a question actually 0.91

01:47:21.500 what's like the longest you've waited till you've had sex with someone like knowing them what's the

01:47:26.060 longest you've known someone like does that make sense my question that you like and then how long did

01:47:31.340 you wait wait like what's the longest you've waited yeah why don't you go first um six months

01:47:38.060 because i was that your boyfriend yeah because i lost my virginity so i was like really wanted to

01:47:43.180 get to what and you're kind of alluding it alluding to it earlier he's your only partner correct okay

01:47:51.180 i'd say like a few months i don't know hold on cheyenne a few could be oh oh the longest okay a few

01:47:57.820 months okay was that your first guy maybe we should exclude like first yeah like just because

01:48:07.180 of course you know but so you've only had one partner yeah so i guess no okay outside of my like

01:48:14.620 first experience maybe we'll do first experience and kind of so should we just say like more recently

01:48:21.900 like what would i wait yeah i think would you like to frame it that way yeah like how long would you

01:48:27.660 like have you like waited okay sure that's a hard question because like what we were saying earlier i

01:48:33.500 feel like i'm kind of the same as a guy and like i know that hickey's kind of whatever brian i'm sorry

01:48:39.260 i'm sorry canceled um like i kind of mentally have a box like guys that i would want to hook up with or

01:48:45.340 guys that would make it past that point and if it's a guy wait real quick question on that so you you have

01:48:50.140 two boxes right you have just hookup box and relationship box do you make the relationship

01:48:55.420 box guys you make them wait yeah and then the hookup guys right away and that's the crazy part

01:49:02.540 is is like those guys usually like if they're in the hookup box it's because i don't see them

01:49:08.300 in a way like they're not good enough to be relationship wise so like maybe i'll let them

01:49:12.540 hit it yeah but it's like the same for me like i am also a boy but but wouldn't you

01:49:20.140 wouldn't you rather reward the relate the guys who would be worthy of a relationship

01:49:28.060 wouldn't you to me it would make sense you give those guys the sex soon and then you curve the 1.00

01:49:36.620 not curve them but like i would want them to wait to see if we have a genuine connection before i do

01:49:41.900 that you know just because like if it's serious to me then it's going to be serious to me but if it's not

01:49:46.140 serious to me then it's absolutely not and i just view it see i gotta comment on that as a guy that

01:49:53.260 bothers me i'm sure it does but like the guys i'm looking up with or continuing to like talk to you

01:49:58.860 don't know how i view things see like it's one thing if a girl just has a a flat standard like 1.00

01:50:07.100 i i wait a little bit of time before i sleep with someone but the moment it's like

01:50:11.980 like brian we're gonna wait for dates and then i know i know that she's slept with or she sleeps 0.90

01:50:23.260 with other guys quick but brian if i was seeing you you wouldn't know about those other guys ever

01:50:28.300 that's what i'm saying like it would just be me and you

01:50:30.300 but it would like in the same way i guess here's the maybe sort of an equivalent how would you guys

01:50:40.620 feel if you knew you're dating a guy and he was it was kind of like serious or whatever but it was

01:50:46.380 kind of like you guys just kind of you went over you're hanging out in sweatpants you would watch 0.94

01:50:53.180 something it was a good time maybe eat a bit of food watch a movie fuck whatever but you found out that 0.98

01:50:59.180 in his past relationship he took that chick on vacations he bought her he took her out on 1.00

01:51:05.020 expensive fancy dates but he's not doing that with you you would you feel a certain type of you'd be

01:51:12.620 like why does she get that stuff but i don't absolutely but is that not the way that it is

01:51:19.020 in real life now i guess but sometimes you're that girl that's going on the vacation and getting

01:51:24.620 the dates and sometimes you're the sneaky link and that's the places like i'm just saying like it's the

01:51:28.940 same for me as it is for most guys like i've kind of learned to use that same evaluation process and

01:51:35.580 i feel like for me personally it's gotten me some places because i don't have all of the like

01:51:40.460 emotional gotten you some places what do you mean like it saved me a lot of trouble from falling

01:51:46.220 for guys that weren't worth it by sleeping with them immediately by keeping them away from my emotions

01:51:52.140 like maybe they're attractive maybe like not into them why like see them at all maybe i think they're

01:51:57.980 attractive and i don't want to see a future with them but i just want to have fun they're exciting

01:52:01.900 for the night they're exciting for the night and like that's how guys view a lot of girls too so i

01:52:06.060 don't see why it's a problem for like girls to think that same way but like do you get pleasure from 1.00

01:52:11.900 like these people who just like yeah see you i do like personally i do because i'm not always

01:52:18.300 seeking that emotional attachment sometimes i am and sometimes i can put that person in the box and

01:52:23.980 know like i really value this person i don't want to just jump right into sex and like have it be

01:52:28.060 nothing but if not like not every person that i come into contact with i'm not i'm gonna date and

01:52:32.860 i'm gonna marry like some people are solely hookups and i think that's okay in my opinion

01:52:37.020 so really quick i wanted to go back to the whole equality about hooking up just for a second because

01:52:43.180 i want to you guys have probably heard this before a master key can open any lock right

01:52:53.100 so if you've heard something similar to that it's it's there's something we'll say it say the analogy

01:52:58.860 okay so i believe it goes yeah you can do it i think it goes something like

01:53:02.860 um a key that opens so you know a lock that opens to any key is a shitty lock but a key that opens any

01:53:11.980 lock is a master key yeah do you think there's any like truth to that statement wait repeat yourself

01:53:19.740 a lock that opens to any key is a shitty lock but a key that opens any lock is a master key so basically

01:53:27.340 essentially it's very easy for women to get laid and it's difficult for men to get laid it's it's 0.86

01:53:35.420 harder for men to get laid than it is for women to get laid so you're saying it's like easy to get like 0.99

01:53:40.380 ran through like well you're like it's easy for women to get laid very every single girl at this table 1.00

01:53:49.100 sorry guys there's a truck passing by every single girl at this table right now could get laid tonight 1.00

01:53:58.540 with a new guy except for ninja turtle don't just kidding i'm kidding you could do it you could do it

01:54:02.860 he's right no yeah that's true you have to you have to change out of the costume maybe they might

01:54:07.020 think you're crazy in the costume actually you know what come to think of it should we do a fit

01:54:12.300 check on the costume by the way yeah a little fit check i'm sweating right now oh she said i'm

01:54:18.780 sweating i'm dead it's like it's kind of like it's kind of cute oh girl see through

01:54:27.740 i think it might work she could pull she could even in a ninja turtle costume you could still pull 0.73

01:54:32.380 every single girl here guys are easy doesn't that mean that you're easy or what but the the point is is

01:54:37.580 that that's why men are congratulated if they can sleep with a lot of women because it's impressive

01:54:44.620 whereas it's not particularly impressive for a woman to be able to sleep with a lot of men 0.97

01:54:49.020 because it's easy or guys are easy like you're easy guys are easy yeah sure but i have the same

01:54:55.820 standards like you're easy if i can sleep with you without even talking to you like you don't know me 0.78

01:55:00.620 you don't know where i've been you don't know who i am like you're easy

01:55:03.020 i'm sure i'm easy if you were so inclined you y'all could sleep with me too but what i'm saying

01:55:10.220 the point i'm trying to make cheyenne's been giving me the death stare so i think that's unlikely but

01:55:15.980 um no so i mean the the point is is that it's just it's difficult for men to get laid and it's very

01:55:23.180 easy for women to get laid you didn't do you disagree you're right you're right but i could

01:55:32.060 get why is that our problem well it just it comes down to how is it your problem i mean it that's

01:55:42.620 just the reality because that's why the double standard you did say earlier life's unfair

01:55:47.900 yeah no life is unfair yeah women i suppose you have the privilege i don't know if it's 1.00

01:55:55.340 necessarily a privilege but it kind of is like okay here we go women have dating on easy mode 0.97

01:56:04.460 i mean like maybe we you guys have that on easy okay like maybe like a woman can have like sex

01:56:08.940 really easily but to actually date and to find a man that's going to commit to you and do all those

01:56:13.340 things is extremely hard versus if you're a good man and like the standards for a good man or the

01:56:18.860 bare minimum you could find a girlfriend like that yeah from a woman to find a boyfriend it's like oh my 1.00

01:56:25.820 god i mean i don't think it always needs to yeah i want to hear your thoughts on this but i agree with

01:56:29.260 that i think like how difficult it is for guys to like it's easy for a guy if a guy wants to find a

01:56:35.580 girlfriend like i feel like he'll find it pretty fast but if like um a guy wants to find someone to sleep

01:56:42.220 with like but in the same way that like a girl could find a guy to sleep with like pretty fast 1.00

01:56:46.620 but that's just like my impression of it maybe it's like different from the guy's perspective

01:56:50.380 how easy or not it is to find a girlfriend so i would say okay just sleeping with i don't think

01:56:56.380 there's any disagreement there just to get laid absolutely way easier for women i would say though

01:57:04.060 when it comes even to getting a relationship it's still not to quite the same extent but it's still

01:57:09.580 easier for women because you have the initial stage is it's still easier i don't know like to 1.00

01:57:19.660 me like if you're like a guy like you have like you have a little bit of game right you get a girl

01:57:25.420 on a date like girls are so easy to please like just to be girls are women are easy to please like 1.00

01:57:30.620 if you're just nice and like me by dinner like i feel like you're good to go like as a guy and like

01:57:36.460 if she's if she likes you if she likes you then it's like just buy just buy dinner that's it guys

01:57:41.580 all you gotta do is buy dinner be nice yeah the one coffee that'll get you a girlfriend i'm sure 1.00

01:57:46.140 yeah i feel like the one you need yo you need a lot more than that you need a lot more it's a good

01:57:51.740 start but you're gonna get as a dude like there's not a lot of guys who are doing that that's like why

01:57:57.260 i'm saying that because like but be honest like girls say what they want is a guy to like bring her

01:58:03.340 flowers like do all this stuff for her but i swear when a guy does that to a girl she 1.00

01:58:08.460 she won't she like might very well like might be like turned off from it it's coming for you it

01:58:13.340 needs to be like the right there's like a little moth i mean yeah but still then for a guy it doesn't

01:58:18.140 have to be the right girl to sleep with so it is still like not the same 1.00

01:58:23.980 no you make a good point you make a good point but yeah i mean even honestly even when it comes to

01:58:29.820 whoops almost knocked the mic over even when it comes to getting a relationship 0.95

01:58:35.500 y'all still got that shit on recruit mode y'all got that on easy mode well send me the instructions 0.97

01:58:41.420 because i'm struggling well the thing is is that you might be going you they're probably don't tell me 0.96

01:58:48.140 this do you have any guys in the friend zone what do you do you have any guys in the friend zone

01:58:53.740 i mean like i don't like like anybody right now so but there's no guys that you know are romantically

01:59:00.940 interested in you you know they they like you they're attracted to you they're romantically

01:59:05.100 interested in you but you friend zone them you don't have any guys in the friend zone i mean to

01:59:09.580 me i know i know you just got out of a relationship so maybe that's like i don't know because i haven't

01:59:13.660 like you've never friend zoned a guy like i have like friends on the guy say say the thing you're about

01:59:19.100 i'm gonna say something that's like a little bit conceited but i feel like also like just any girl

01:59:22.540 like you kind of assume that like every guy likes you not like every guy but like you know like if

01:59:26.860 they're being a little extra nice or whatever like i assume that they like me sure so but it's like

01:59:32.460 they don't really ask like me out or do anything to like necessarily put them in the friend zone but 0.92

01:59:36.940 i'm personally really friendly that like i'm not gonna be rude like i'm not gonna be a bitch like 1.00

01:59:40.940 i'm gonna be nice to you and then some guys take that the wrong way and they think that you're into

01:59:44.700 them when it's really not that but if a guy like expresses romantic interest to me i am very clear and like

01:59:50.620 i had a friend who like this she friend zone a guy but she kept doing like these weird things so 1.00

01:59:54.700 like sleeping in his bed with him like they wouldn't have sex but she'd sleep over and like

01:59:58.140 do all these weird things like that's mean like when your friends own a guy like make it very clear

02:00:02.140 that like you're just friends and don't do anything to allude that you think you don't

02:00:06.940 want to get that's mean like i think that's really mean some girls do that so yeah that's that's 0.98

02:00:12.540 kind of a peculiar one she friend zoned him but she would because like he was doing things for her

02:00:17.580 like he was being nice to her and like giving her rides and shit exactly okay so the finesse 0.53

02:00:22.700 the finesse okay yeah so wait so what where were you going where were you going with that

02:00:30.460 my friend zone guys like i haven't really gotten to the point where they like asked me right but

02:00:34.300 do i think that there's guys that are being nice to me well i guess i guess the point i'm trying to

02:00:37.900 make is you you said that well it's kind of harder to for a girl to get a relationship but what maybe 0.97

02:00:44.300 it's not with the ideal suitor but you could pretty instantly of the men that are in your friend zone

02:00:53.260 they're ready but you're just not into them right most men don't have like a have that degree of

02:01:02.540 okay there's just this guy he this chick she wants me okay i guess i'll be with her

02:01:07.260 most guys don't have that so well what's up what up i mean it's like yes you're absolutely right about

02:01:16.540 everything everything you're saying women have much easier access to sex and relationships and stuff 1.00

02:01:22.700 but again why is it like our thing like i feel like that's solely a matter of women having like 1.00

02:01:31.500 because it's not that men aren't as attractive as women i don't think like sure women are generally

02:01:38.700 more attractive but like there are attractive men out there and there are good men out there

02:01:42.140 but i think it's more of like where our standards lie and like we kind of talked about this the last

02:01:46.460 episode like what were we saying that women will go above and across whereas men go

02:01:53.980 oh women women date across and up yeah attractiveness and socioeconomic hierarchies and then 1.00

02:02:00.140 men date down basically yeah men date across and down and i think that's a lot of it is like

02:02:05.420 we might have this accessibility but we're not really taking advantage of it all the time because

02:02:11.820 we're looking for like someone that's actually in our standards whereas men don't always do the same

02:02:16.380 thing they will go for women that aren't always in their standards let's pull up a tate clip on this 1.00

02:02:21.900 real quick just because it's related eric if you can switch over to the video uh scroll down just a bit

02:02:27.660 to the tate section just so i can see oh we need a should we finish this um we'll do the tate and then

02:02:33.820 we'll come back to that just note the time i think it's two minutes in so okay uh go down just a bit

02:02:39.260 let's do uh lonely men too

02:02:44.300 yeah yeah that one

02:02:45.100 i don't think most women can actually genuinely understand how lonely the majority of men are

02:02:56.700 and you need you need to truly understand if you're joe schmo

02:03:00.140 average in nearly every way in starbucks working you ain't getting a dm ever

02:03:06.700 two girls two girls two girls will never be lonely as much as you might be unhappy with the

02:03:12.780 possible suitors you can at least about and flirt if you feel sad there are men out here in the world

02:03:19.180 who have genuine loneliness and i can prove this statistically why do you think it's all the men

02:03:25.580 killing themselves put it back eric uh you do you guys want to give a quick reaction to that i think 0.98

02:03:33.420 that's what he said was valid dead ass because i have eight brothers i'm the only girl out of eight 0.99

02:03:37.660 brothers and you have eight brothers yeah all like uh any step brothers or yeah so my mom has some 0.98

02:03:43.740 and my dad has some okay but so maybe that's why i defend i have a respect for men are they

02:03:49.740 are they all watching by the way are your brothers can we shout them out shout out to my brothers

02:03:53.980 there's a lot of them a lot of names the familia shout out shadow but um so like my respect for men

02:04:01.820 hits different like i um and i know how lonely they get and men are in society men aren't supposed

02:04:11.580 to cry men aren't supposed to cry they're not supposed to be depressed they're not supposed to

02:04:17.420 so they have like this thing where like they have to hold all that in so that's why i feel for a man

02:04:24.300 it definitely is that's why the suicide rate is mostly men for that reason women yes we get lonely but

02:04:30.140 like he said like a man can't show that he is so for us we can show it to each other so we can get

02:04:37.500 help a lot of men have to not be feeling that way you know so i believe what that guy said that 0.99

02:04:44.060 was facts and valid like a motherfucker did you want to come in on this i saw you oh you know what's so 0.97

02:04:49.740 funny is that my ex-boyfriend when i saw him he told me that he watches andrew tate and it helped 0.98

02:04:53.580 with his depression so i feel like that's like that's a fun fact i guess it's right like i think

02:05:00.700 men they're not allowed to like show their emotions and i think like back to the point of feminism like

02:05:05.900 i would want like the the negative societal norms on men to be switched like they should be able to

02:05:12.300 express how they feel and it's like they really can't so it's sad okay ex-boyfriend like is that why you

02:05:19.500 guys broke up he started watching tape videos no i mean i'm like pretty chill so like i don't know

02:05:26.620 you guys want to hear a story i was like talking to this girl right and i told her i was um i was

02:05:32.220 i told her something about tate and she's like oh no and then she canceled our date

02:05:39.580 because i mentioned something yeah guys don't if you like andrew tate don't

02:05:43.420 fucking bring that up to a girl because like bruv anyways whatever okay cheyenne did you wanna 1.00

02:05:51.420 um this is just a random like genuine question from like all of the talk right now but like 0.99

02:06:00.140 it just feels a little off for us to talk about like wanting traditional men and like them to fill 0.65

02:06:06.540 those roles and like no painting nails and no dresses and things like that but then to say like yes they

02:06:12.780 should be able to cry because i think crying is one of those things that is labeled as feminine 1.00

02:06:17.020 feminism or like something more feminine that men are traditionally and societally taught not to do

02:06:24.700 because it is for women and so for us to say like yeah that's so sad like they have nobody and they can't

02:06:30.540 cry and there's such a high suicide rate that also goes into society's role of not allowing them to 0.85

02:06:36.620 embrace those things and it comes down to the toxicity of it all and i do think society that's the reason

02:06:42.460 why i do think that's absolutely right like men don't have as many people there for them or they're not

02:06:47.900 able to express that in that same way but it comes down to us breaking down those roles of society not just

02:06:54.060 what we want and what we don't want it all plays in together and then it's generational too

02:06:59.340 i know like my brothers are like that because in a mexican household like you're supposed to be strong

02:07:05.420 like you're you know like the guy he has to be macho he has to be you know so it's actually generational

02:07:11.420 generationally taught too by a father that you have to be uh you have to be tough you have to 0.98

02:07:18.060 be the bread maker of the house like you it's also not even society fuck society but it's also like a 0.95

02:07:23.660 generational curse that's put on them by their fathers as well too like he has to grow up to be this man

02:07:29.980 you know and is that i mean you have eight brothers is that something that you feel was put on your

02:07:36.620 brothers a little bit no they're not all my brothers are completely different um most of my

02:07:43.100 my mom's baby daddies they were like one night hookups you know and then like one's dead one's

02:07:50.700 in prison you know what i'm saying like so none of their my mom was like the main she was a dad

02:07:57.580 you know yeah so she raised them you know and so like then i just know that from like my father

02:08:07.420 from my uncles they how they were raised by my grandpa and by their fathers is because

02:08:13.020 they were raised to be like you have to be like this sure i do we are behind on super chats here so

02:08:19.180 i got to get to a couple super chats guys if you want guys get them in ten dollars and up by the way

02:08:24.220 just a reminder 500 super chat i will shave my beard in the style of your choice

02:08:31.180 stifler uh ask the ladies to rate themselves on the scale of one to ten really quick we can do that um 1.00

02:08:39.580 um a 10. i'm a 10. you're a 10. okay yeah personality yeah looks though um probably like a 9. 8.5

02:08:51.100 like looks or like overall looks um maybe like a 9. and then overall

02:09:03.420 okay nine looks 10 overall i'm at a 10 out of 10. 10 out of 10. i'd say like eight

02:09:10.220 i don't know because you're selling yourself short yeah i'd probably say like nine i feel like i'm just

02:09:15.500 like some average blonde i don't know wait nine yeah well average blonde just like nine yeah well 1.00

02:09:23.260 all blondes are like really pretty like i think that like everybody should dye their hair blonde i don't 0.99

02:09:28.140 know i just like for the summer i don't know she said no i agree and then like dark for the winter i don't

02:09:34.540 know well everyone should be told okay not everyone what about what about you guys what do you think

02:09:43.260 luke do you want to answer this one i think like a eight

02:09:50.940 oh uh six 6.9 on a good day if i had a ninja ninja turtle costume maybe 7.3 i would say 10 if you

02:09:58.700 were if i had a ninja turtle costume okay matching matching outfits i see you all right super chats

02:10:05.340 oh wait we already got this one hold on guys getting to the super chats i think this is where

02:10:11.020 we left off uh she said she doesn't want a dominant man but doesn't even know what dominant means being 0.99

02:10:16.940 dominant just means taking the lead not bossing you around sorry sorry guys we're just getting to

02:10:20.860 the super chats now so i know we this was we were talking about this like an hour ago um but shell

02:10:25.500 thank you for the uh canadian ten dollars yeah i mean that's my sense of what dominant means too um

02:10:30.700 and eric can you just uh put it center for us um just during the soup chats so yeah my sense of

02:10:36.860 dominant is just uh it's not being bossy like and also like so okay you have dominant submissive

02:10:44.860 submissive isn't something that's like forced or taken submission is something that's that's given so

02:10:50.620 yeah it's basically just taking the lead in my purview i mean even if it means taking the lead i

02:10:58.700 think that's still not necessarily what i would want personally so still same answer if i don't know what

02:11:06.380 dominant means sorry i'll google it next time okay sme with the uh five dollars uh okay yep sorry just

02:11:16.620 a reminder guys ten dollars and up uh chase paisley with the 11 11 okay he is also ocd like me just

02:11:22.620 with the numbers ask can you put it center eric um ask tara and the rest of the ladies who make better 0.99

02:11:27.580 lovers right wing men or left wing men uh okay we're finally getting it to it chase i don't know if you're

02:11:34.620 still in the chat but um okay so tara first and then we'll let the other girls respond um just from like 0.98

02:11:42.060 personal experience like i'd have to say right right wing men are better are better in bed okay

02:11:51.500 chase paisley there um i you've only dated one guy but he likes andrew tate so was your was your

02:11:58.460 boyfriend was he i think i don't left right i don't think that determines whether you're good or not

02:12:03.580 like what what was your boyfriend was he conservative guy uh i guess you'd say he's

02:12:08.620 more on the conservative like trump voter no he didn't vote for trump but stormed the capital no

02:12:14.140 like not like that but like i don't know okay yeah i also don't think it matters i don't think that

02:12:23.260 political stance has anything to do with your sexual ability but i've pretty much only been with

02:12:32.460 like left-wing men so i think i would have a biased answer my only right-wing man was my first boyfriend

02:12:37.820 and i hate that guy good times okay nope okay um as long as they didn't like extreme one side or 0.53

02:12:48.220 extreme the other i don't really um i feel like it doesn't matter like i've never like met a guy and

02:12:55.260 asked him like his political standpoint like i honestly don't know like the people like who i've

02:13:00.700 like talked to or anything i don't know like where they stand uh luke right-wing men or left-wing men

02:13:11.740 can we change it up to left yeah okay um

02:13:16.620 hmm do you do you have to go no worries hey thank you for coming wait you have a call or

02:13:23.420 yeah yeah oh but you're you are leaving though well thank you for coming have a good rest of your

02:13:28.780 night um no i think yeah again i don't think there's a difference in it i got an answer for

02:13:38.460 this man hey what is it bro i mean okay so i'm i'm center left i'll pull it back up here 1.00

02:13:44.780 i'm gonna say it fucking liberal chicks are fucking crazy as fucking bed i'm just gonna say it 1.00

02:13:54.540 someone a few podcasts ago says ssr ssri pussy is the best pussy i think i saw that actually 1.00

02:14:02.860 but um i mean okay i sorry i mean i i had an antidepressant yeah yeah it's an antidepressant 0.99

02:14:09.580 yeah selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor i had a right-winged girlfriend and she was the most 1.00

02:14:17.740 vanilla chick i have ever met it was oh but like super what it it depends though like first off i 0.98

02:14:26.780 don't even want to like mess with super woke chicks but like hr chicks nah but like 1.00

02:14:33.820 the thing is is that there's not a lot of uh sorry guys there's a uh truck passing honestly like

02:14:44.380 living in california living in southern california living in santa barbara most of the women i date 0.77

02:14:49.020 are super left-leaning so yeah there's some based moderate chicks though but yeah not honestly i don't

02:14:58.700 really and a lot of conservative women are also like super religious so a lot of them are like 1.00

02:15:04.700 waiting till marriage so yeah i mean i'll put it this way the the right-wing girlfriend she 1.00

02:15:12.700 she kind of fell into the whole like you know gender norm like if that makes sense lays there and 0.95

02:15:19.020 takes it versus the more left-wing women which are like kind of down for whatever i kind of 1.00

02:15:25.340 fuck with that so it seems like guys want like this more like conservative like girl to be dating 0.99

02:15:32.300 but like in bed they want this like wild liberal girl so is it like you want about the best of both 0.99

02:15:37.340 worlds or is it like your short-term versus long-term like interests i want someone who can show the same

02:15:42.460 level of respect that i give them and who's also a freak that's what i want i don't care i don't i again

02:15:50.620 i don't care if you are left-winged or right-winged as long as you have like the same common decency to

02:15:56.460 put forward the same respect that i'm giving you it's like then i can you know that's a relationship

02:16:02.220 to me there's there should be trust and there should be respect also just living in santa barbara like

02:16:07.740 there's really not a lot of conservative women so you kind of like i'm not i'll date a conservative 0.94

02:16:14.220 woman i'll date liberal woman like i'm pretty center um center center left i'd say um ish i don't 1.00

02:16:21.820 know i don't know i i don't believe in like because i don't think you should be able to if you know

02:16:27.340 someone's position on one political issue i don't think it's a good look that you should you can guess

02:16:33.020 their position on all the rest but that kind of is the case so for me it's like if you really wanted

02:16:39.100 to suss out my leanings on politics you'd have to like go down the list one by one with me on

02:16:44.860 each of the issues but yeah there's just not a lot of conservative women and uh in santa barbara and um 1.00

02:16:52.780 but super woke chicks i don't know but like i don't know moderate i think most people are pretty 0.99

02:16:58.300 reasonable so yeah richard joy with the uh canadian ten dollars hello there are two other girls that i 0.97

02:17:04.140 think that would love to talk so let's get to another okay so this is from a while ago um i still would

02:17:09.020 like my second super chat question answered god bless america um i think we got to it richard right

02:17:16.380 what do you mean which one

02:17:24.060 i did oh my bad man uh sorry richard sorry um if you started dating man and then somehow it came up

02:17:32.780 that he spent time with escorts would that be a red flag yeah i did miss that one my bad guys um

02:17:37.500 it came in like as i was reading the other one so it just kind of slipped through the cracks so ladies

02:17:43.660 uh would you date a guy who slept with the escort um i wouldn't date him but i wouldn't judge him for

02:17:52.860 it either like you know like i mean i guess i would judge him for it to the extent that i wouldn't date

02:17:56.780 him but like that's his life but i would i don't know i really don't know i haven't encountered that

02:18:06.540 situation so i don't really know how to react my initial reaction is probably wouldn't be as down

02:18:14.300 just because like why are you paying for company with other women that's a little a little odd i

02:18:19.340 wouldn't pay for the company of a man so i wouldn't want my partner to be doing that either

02:18:26.220 yeah that'd be a no i feel like yeah i i wouldn't either i wouldn't i feel like that's kind of just

02:18:34.140 weird yeah like okay so i i should have maybe asked this question first so should someone's past matter

02:18:44.380 if your past involves paying escorts then yeah it does so to a certain extent yeah that's a little

02:18:51.980 different than like because this is this question is kind of related to body count so men care about

02:18:58.380 women's past when it comes to your past promiscuity and it sounds like most of the women at the table 1.00

02:19:03.180 here you care about a man's past not fucking hookers yeah and prostitutes a little different 1.00

02:19:10.460 maybe just for safety reasons but i guess safety reasons goes both ways as well could go both ways 0.99

02:19:14.780 right i mean if you've been promiscuous then yeah that also goes like the same way yeah well i just

02:19:19.740 feel like i wouldn't want to be like hooking up with somebody who has like the mindset to pay people

02:19:24.380 to have sex with them like that's just so weird to me i don't know it's very different than like

02:19:28.700 organically meeting a lot of people and having a lot of sex like it's a bit of a different story really 0.71

02:19:35.020 quick if you guys had to wager what percentage like of the breakdown of the genders in terms of 1.00

02:19:41.020 who is having to pay the opposite sex to get sex would you say it's would you say it's maybe 99 0.76

02:19:48.780 men that are paying professional women maybe one percent of women even maybe even less even only

02:19:54.700 fans is a form of like they're paying a subscription to sure that's i mean it's not as extreme as an

02:20:00.300 escort but like i don't know how many men have only or pay for only fans but it's probably a lot

02:20:05.500 and that's i think well what's the gender breakdown what would you say like 99.99 for the prostitution 0.99

02:20:10.940 thing yeah bro i don't i don't know anyone you don't need a prostitute as a woman yeah i don't know 0.97

02:20:18.140 like i would want to say that sounds about right but then i'm thinking like the world is so huge like

02:20:23.100 maybe there's five percent of women out there actually paying for male escorts maybe i don't really 1.00

02:20:27.340 know but like maybe it's probably less than one percent yeah but like why as a man are you paying

02:20:33.900 for escorts like what why can't you find people on your own like what's wrong well it goes back to

02:20:41.660 it goes back to it being hard for men to get laid yeah but i know that might blow your like what's that

02:20:49.020 like that you have to pay someone like to that extent like that it's so hard for men that they have

02:20:54.940 to pay people to have sex with them like i don't think it's that hard if it's a bit sad the guy

02:21:02.300 that asked is probably crying what i mean it's kind of it's interesting that you guys are coming to

02:21:09.580 this but like yes i mean this is plays into the andrew tate clip before there are men out there that

02:21:15.660 are genuinely lonely that cannot get laid then i feel like they should just use that money that

02:21:24.300 they're paying the prostitutes use that money for a therapist not not like that's not gonna going to

02:21:30.700 therapy is not gonna help a guy like get laid i mean something must be wrong with you if you can't 0.95

02:21:36.220 be or you could just be super unattractive here's the thing is that

02:21:41.340 sorry i didn't mean to cut you off if you want to continue your point i mean i don't want to like

02:21:45.020 put that to the extreme but like there's stuff i think there's someone for everyone like whether

02:21:49.420 it takes a long time or like whatever like i don't know like what point it's coming to that like if

02:21:54.940 you're paying someone because that's like a sexual fantasy of yours and that's like fine but like if

02:21:59.500 you're paying for someone because that's like your last resort then like i mean but it's also a big

02:22:03.820 business so i mean there's they have a lot of clients like there's a lot of men doing it well yeah i mean

02:22:08.860 it the the market is there for prostitution uh if so clearly there are men if if there wasn't a 1.00

02:22:18.780 demand for it women would not be providing but there's a huge market for sex workers only fans 1.00

02:22:25.260 strippers porn all of these things are predominantly consumed and purchased by men so that that has to 0.56

02:22:35.020 suggest something to you if if men were getting laid frequently easily they wouldn't be consuming 0.85

02:22:42.460 porn and only fans and going to the strip club and having prostitutes at to such a degree as they are 0.94

02:22:50.860 if if dudes were just getting laid like they wouldn't be getting chicks only fans they wouldn't 1.00

02:22:55.660 be buying their only fans so the fact that only fans exists is to me suggests that men are super

02:23:04.140 struggling to get laid but i think that could be a societal thing maybe not like and yeah are there

02:23:12.540 also not like married women i mean women married men with kids subscribing to only fans and going to 0.78

02:23:18.460 the strip clubs and stuff so like they still have access to it but yet they still want more they still

02:23:23.660 want that pleasure well actually i mean most well you could say that married men probably 0.93

02:23:29.100 dead bedroom so they're married they have a wife but they're not fucking anymore or it's so irregular 0.97

02:23:38.380 and that's usually sometimes it's driven by the men but usually a dead bedroom is driven by the woman 1.00

02:23:45.100 you hear that a lot with marriages guys don't get married we're gonna get into that in a sec 0.93

02:23:49.740 um but uh yeah so how did we get onto that oh we were responding to the super chat or whatever

02:24:00.540 but uh but it's interesting it blows your guys's mind right that guys are resorting to prostitutes to get 0.96

02:24:09.020 sex well i feel like the girls who do like only fans and stuff like they're doing it because they need

02:24:16.220 money because personally if i would like if i were to receive money like if i were to receive money

02:24:23.500 for having sex with somebody i would feel worthless like i would not want somebody to pay me to have 0.98

02:24:28.380 sex with them unless i was extremely broke well even if i was extremely broke i would find a different way 0.99

02:24:34.940 but like well i i can't imagine it's a great feeling to fuck a prostitute by the way i think you guys went 0.99

02:24:44.460 kind of to the extreme i'm like he has no other resort where i think a lot of the like revenue 0.99

02:24:50.460 that strippers are making is through like guys just wanting okay okay escort that's strippers are just 0.71

02:24:58.700 dancing you're right so okay well i meant escort okay escort or prostitute a lot of their revenue

02:25:05.100 is coming from dudes that are just trying to go out and party not necessarily they have no other options

02:25:10.220 maybe if it was like something his friends like did for him as like a super duper special birthday

02:25:19.180 it's like not a deal breaker or something i don't know maybe if it was like

02:25:23.980 just something there it wouldn't be like a hard deal breaker i don't know it's the only thing i can

02:25:28.940 think of like on your point but if it's not the act of like because i've heard of like guys like are

02:25:33.820 like guys that can get girls will still like have their friends will like take them to the strip club or like

02:25:38.780 go to tijuana or something and like get with like get with prostitutes they're like i've heard stories 0.98

02:25:43.500 of that and these are guys that like could get with like girls as like part of this party thing

02:25:47.180 i mean for me personally it's still probably like

02:25:50.860 concerning just like that's like what they think is fun but yeah but i guess i mean it is we don't

02:25:57.420 have to take it to the extreme we could take it like by the way i'm not saying that it shouldn't

02:26:00.700 be a deal breaker right i i don't see a valuable reason or fucking any reason to have to pay for 1.00

02:26:07.900 sex by the way only fans is stupid that might be a hot take but i think only fans is the dumbest thing 1.00

02:26:13.740 ever like guys you mean guys paying for it yeah dude you guys have porn hub rub one out go to the 1.00

02:26:20.620 gym chill the out why are you like fiending over these girls that you're never gonna talk to you 0.95

02:26:25.740 you know i've been like like you don't understand how many dm's i get asking even reading the chat

02:26:31.340 they say where's her only fans worth i've been i've had multiple like only fans agencies you know

02:26:37.180 that's a thing yeah agencies where they they try to recruit me to be part of only fans and i

02:26:42.460 obviously deny because it's like but it's it's there's such a big like i know there's a huge thing

02:26:48.700 guys if you're that desperate children okay again i can't talk because i've never had that like

02:26:56.300 you're such a chat but only fans dude just again rub one out go to the gym it's not that hard

02:27:04.540 why are you like facts i mean oh my god well i i would say like so i definitely don't recommend

02:27:12.220 men pay for only fans but i understand kind of why some men do it because there's a component of like

02:27:19.260 there's an interaction component on only fans where the men are like i guess they can message with the

02:27:25.100 girls and they get like some degree of attention that's how attention starved men are and then there's

02:27:31.500 also just like there's some guy like i guess you can put in requests and shit so like for some guys 0.79

02:27:38.060 that's fulfilling some sort of thing or there's a certain type of girl and it's also kind of like 0.64

02:27:42.140 the girl next door sort of thing too like you're fucking yeah it's like that you know her i could 0.94

02:27:48.940 see why it's like kind of different it's like someone you like you know it's a bit more approachable 0.99

02:27:53.980 they're like you you see their entire life like if yeah don't pay for porn don't pay for porn guys

02:27:58.940 that i see how it's different i honestly don't approve of it but like i see why it's like different

02:28:04.140 than that yeah here's the best i could i like advice i can give for that instead of paying 20 a

02:28:10.460 month for an only fans pay 20 for a gym membership workout get a good get a good body can we go and 0.99

02:28:18.620 then fucking fuck dude can you do the ziz for us yeah i can do this for you 1.00

02:28:27.100 walk fucking myron go to go to the fucking gym bro get off your ass can we do like a try can we see 1.00

02:28:33.420 a try well dude holy man are you on gear dude no okay fuck myron okay 1.00

02:28:42.540 you're very passionate about the i i i i just yeah it's such a stupid fucking website in my opinion 0.98

02:28:52.860 he just single-handedly ended only fans please stop paying for only fans by the way um i just would 0.75

02:29:01.180 like to take this time to announce that i have acquired onlyfans.com whatever so subscribe it's coming

02:29:09.020 soon um it's in the works guys luke is gonna he's gonna do some like tasteful shirtless photos

02:29:15.260 on my only fans okay so uh let's see we got eldritch scrolls 333 thank you for the ten

02:29:20.540 dollar soup chat good to see you back man jasmine right let's go out on a date i'm asking you out

02:29:26.060 will you accept this rose are you gonna go out with uh elder scrolls 333 i think i'd have to like

02:29:32.620 at least see what he looks like first like i have to politely decline what if he's nice and buys

02:29:39.900 you dinner yeah then yeah but like okay her d her dms are open okay uh everyday edgar with the

02:29:46.620 ten dollar soup chat if your body count is above five then you can't just say that was your past and

02:29:50.620 pretend to be a traditional woman now everyday edgar good to see you back man it's been a couple uh

02:29:59.020 shows thank you man um yeah if you're the thing is i there's this saying uh i'm trying to remember

02:30:06.380 how it goes something about this is from myron gains i've heard from maybe he got from somewhere

02:30:13.260 else myron from fresh and fit um men are concerned with a woman's past and women are concerned with men's

02:30:19.180 future so i i don't really know but anyone have sweden do you have a response to ella my bad um ella malmo

02:30:38.860 can i can you respond in swedish by the way to this uh sure okay do it they want to hear you

02:30:46.380 speak in swedish okay but i forgot what your question was every day edgar i can't see my eyesight

02:30:51.900 is too bad oh um here i there's this trick if you go like this no she has a different no i'm not

02:30:58.540 doing it or you go like this yeah that's my choice do it oh my god no way it works if your body count

02:31:04.860 is above five that you can just that you can just say that was your past and pretend to be

02:31:11.260 a traditional woman now okay do you want to respond in swedish your native tongue

02:31:20.700 you are aware that's been a while since i spoke swedish right what's that it's been a while how

02:31:24.620 long has it been like an hour she said an hour like three two months maybe so you've just forgotten

02:31:34.060 swedish no but okay so think that if you don't speak english don't hear i mean yeah don't like 0.79

02:31:41.020 you only spoke like i only spoke swedish at home and the rest was just like english or spanish

02:31:47.420 every day edgar i'm sorry she doesn't want to speak swedish but you know what actually

02:31:52.860 it's kind of the super chats kind of the swedish flag colors with the okay

02:31:58.220 okay right so in swedish see i only forgot the question like am i am i am all right

02:32:11.900 there we go okay richie rich with the uh ten dollar soup chat ladies would date a guy who's

02:32:17.740 would can you guys richie rich i like your little avatar by the way ladies would date a guy who's had

02:32:26.220 a sexual past with a men so would you date a guy who's slept with men sure yeah he treats me right 0.98

02:32:34.700 that's the problem i would i would not i would not i probably would not why um well i i don't know it's

02:32:47.500 just well it depends like if he identifies himself as gay bisexual let's say he's bi okay fine

02:33:01.100 well i don't know it depends no okay he okay here's his sexual past he was a bottom and he 0.84

02:33:08.460 he you know you know posture check by the way let's just say you have a one-way ticket to

02:33:17.900 saying yes to getting wait izzy posture check post posture check izzy okay sorry you're okay

02:33:28.220 you're just blocking her frame sorry no you're good you're good um do you want to answer the super chat

02:33:34.140 izzy um i guess it would just depend i mean it depends on the situation and like he's a bottom

02:33:46.140 and like no he he like gave dudes head dudes or dude like dudes he gave dude's head probably not

02:33:55.580 because then it's like so you got a picture like like i'm like he tried it and like he didn't like

02:34:00.380 it like that's fine like but i don't i would literally have a guy like if a guy i was dating

02:34:08.780 i would i don't know how to explain this but it's also just how i feel but like if i was dating a guy

02:34:13.340 and like i would rather have him like cheat on me than like turn out to be like whoa

02:34:21.900 like gay only because like gay in the past you'd rather have him cheat in the present than 1.00

02:34:30.380 you found out oh in the past he sucked some dick 1.00

02:34:34.860 what if he was like part of a bukkake what he's in like a bukkake and it's just like yeah no it's 0.99

02:34:40.300 no it's a no like i i just only because it's sort of confusing to me it's like one it just it

02:34:46.860 like sort of invalidates like our chemistry i feel like and then like i don't know that's on i mean

02:34:51.900 cheating also would maybe like invalidate the chemistry but i don't know i mean yeah that's

02:34:56.220 just my like personal i'm just like gonna like be honest that's just how i feel i've literally like

02:35:01.820 had those conversations like in the past of like would just yeah something i would just take it

02:35:09.020 personally honestly something like that happened to our roommate and she doesn't know what she doesn't

02:35:15.340 know yeah is she watching this uh probably hopefully not no hopefully not

02:35:25.500 whoa you had quite a reaction to that what what's going through your mind right now that's just crazy

02:35:30.300 that she doesn't know that's the only thing that's like so flabbergasted yeah like she didn't know that

02:35:34.140 her boyfriend like was with the guy or like cheated on him wait which one yeah wait wait the boyfriend 0.80

02:35:42.380 the boyfriend cheated or just in his past hooked up with a guy i wouldn't really say the boyfriend

02:35:49.340 not the boyfriend wait what the boyfriend didn't cheat she let's just say she had a 1.00

02:35:58.140 oh fun night so she like that with a she cheated on her boyfriend with a guy that was like closeted 0.99

02:36:06.620 and he like still oh wait she boyfriend no no well he knows so if your roommates oh wait she cheated 1.00

02:36:17.020 on her boyfriend with a dude who's gay yes yes exactly whoa okay first of all bro if you're watching this 0.99

02:36:29.420 get the fuck out of the house jesus christ they don't know how many roommates to have this could 1.00

02:36:35.340 be like any guy we have that's true yeah okay moving on uh let's see richard joy with the 0.99

02:36:44.380 subsequent 10 canadian canadian dollar soup chat thank you man this is why i completely agree 0.99

02:36:49.820 with brian sneaky links means you're a promiscuous girl god bless america 0.98

02:36:53.500 word word word word um yeah man uh 0.99

02:37:06.620 god bless america okay thank you man but hold on how are you saying god bless america and you're 0.96

02:37:12.220 super chatting with canadian dollars you treasonous fake how dare you what kind of car is in your 0.93

02:37:20.140 avatar by the way is this a miata do you drive a mazda sir how dare you okay captain levi with the 0.99

02:37:27.100 ten dollar soup chat a promiscuous woman is as dangerous as falling into a narrow well she hides 1.00

02:37:33.100 and waits like a robber eager to make more men unfaithful proverbs 23 27 28 um word 1.00

02:37:41.420 um is this actually in the bible are you just writing this shit you know i did hear something in 0.98

02:37:51.020 the bible that uh something it goes along the lines of as a man it is better to sleep on the roof of 0.99

02:37:59.900 your house than to something better to sleep on the roof of your house than to be married to a quarrelsome 1.00

02:38:06.460 woman apparently that's a thing in the bible the bible was pretty based i'm not i'm not gonna lie

02:38:14.940 okay stop davon jackson hey man good to see you again thank you for this ten dollar soup chat not

02:38:20.620 here for a long time today missed most of it but i'll watch the answers on playback with the ladies

02:38:25.260 data man that used to pay for sex in the past i have a follow-up but oh well so davon thank you

02:38:30.860 for the ten dollar soup chat we already someone already super chat that but man good to see you

02:38:34.780 i don't know if you're still in the chat but uh feel free to ask another question uh and if if we

02:38:39.980 can catch it um and it's not a uh if you want to just send a regular message we'll just treat it as

02:38:46.460 super chat richie rich with the ten dollar soup chat not not wanting to marry a promiscuous woman

02:38:54.620 is similar to not wanting a car at a hundred thousand miles i don't like when we start comparing women 1.00

02:39:01.420 to physical like the key in the lock and the car it's like when this is a human being with feelings

02:39:07.260 and a life like why are we comparing this to a car well i mean there's this term called an analogy

02:39:15.100 that is sometimes used you know yes but like even so like you he's saying like i wouldn't want to get

02:39:26.140 a car with a hundred thousand miles but like if he himself were a car he would probably have a

02:39:30.700 hundred thousand miles and if he doesn't then get a car with less miles that's on you just don't buy

02:39:36.220 that car but women want to date men who are experienced that doesn't not always that doesn't mean like 0.92

02:39:42.220 you'd date a virgin you'd sleep with a virgin i have how many how many how many men have you uh 0.99

02:39:49.580 taking the virginity devirginized probably like three or four three or four no actually it's it's 0.94

02:39:57.980 three exactly because i am at four and it's not but you're at what do you mean you're at four body

02:40:03.660 count of four your body counts four i told you this last time i forgot should we do the chat's been

02:40:11.740 asking for body count um i guess we could go around the table really quick on body count what's your body

02:40:16.940 count one four six six three seven multiply it by three and that's the real number

02:40:30.300 wait what is yours brian yeah have we ever asked that i'm a man of god what does that mean i do not

02:40:37.580 uh kiss and tell i do not uh i'm very discreet i don't reveal my my body count dude we just 0.99

02:40:46.060 fuck you like actually yeah what why actually what's wrong what what if we all answered if we 0.99

02:40:57.100 had the option to be like i like just didn't know that was an option if that was an option i was like 0.99

02:41:01.580 oh i don't want to say like i think i don't know i think the last show like how about you guys guess

02:41:08.060 yeah five out of the six girls said they didn't want to answer yeah definitely girls said no can i guess

02:41:13.020 yeah you can guess does the chat have any good guesses what are they throwing out seven seven

02:41:21.900 chase a little lower chase don't tell them chase knows chase knows chase let us know don't don't

02:41:28.220 do it chase don't tell them i think if i was to guess i would say you're probably at about

02:41:33.580 six wait but you had a you but you were that's so off or what so you've had your youtube career

02:41:41.260 for 10 years do like girls come up to you and are like oh my god like you're like that guy like do 0.96

02:41:47.180 you get a lot of still not honestly i'm still waiting for like a fangirl i've never had like 0.99

02:41:52.540 a fangirl like oh my god brian i'm sure they're out there you're fucking videos 0.96

02:41:57.980 i'm waiting my dms are open okay like do people come up to you in the street and be like oh my god 0.99

02:42:03.900 you're the guy with the podcast in santa barbara i get approached quite a bit oh really yeah um

02:42:10.700 but uh it was more so in the past when i was a bit more active but uh yeah people approach me but

02:42:17.260 it's mostly dudes so unfortunately uh yeah mostly guys approach me so if i was gay bro i'd be 0.93

02:42:23.420 fucking killing it probably so it's low what's low the body count no i'm just you're my youtube success 0.96

02:42:32.620 is not actually i was more successful before i went with women actually before i even started youtube 0.99

02:42:40.380 i wonder why just kidding brian wow savage

02:42:44.860 um but yeah so is it not six hot cold did you take a guess we were also like older than us so

02:42:55.020 like you'll have like a lot more like time like literally just time to i've got more time i've had

02:43:00.220 more time to rack it up i'm a dinosaur over here is it like 18 i have no idea

02:43:07.740 yeah nine i'd say like nine or ten yeah wait i want to change my answer to 57.

02:43:18.140 those are all fantastic guesses i can neither confirm or deny any of these you're the worst

02:43:24.700 like who was like closer it's somewhere between zero and 200. oh great somewhere in that range okay

02:43:33.580 moving on so uh we got this one we got this one right let's see uh brooklyn and i guys get praised

02:43:44.460 i'll read it just because it's close guys get praised for hooking up high body counts because

02:43:47.740 it takes way more effort than women girls literally just have to ask for it girls don't even have to 1.00

02:43:53.420 ask for it y'all just have to show up you just have to be there you have to be in a room that easy for

02:44:00.860 us like it's men yeah you're easy women don't make it that easy for men but but we're talking

02:44:06.140 about that it is easy for you guys yeah absolutely but it's men's fault at the end of the day you

02:44:11.660 guys make it too easy yes you're right i suppose it is our fault i wish it was i suppose i wish it 0.99

02:44:17.740 was women's fault if it was just easy as fuck to sleep with women but fortunately it's not the case okay 1.00

02:44:25.740 the game uh-oh yo jasmine what the fuck mike davis called me said you were snitching chola you know 0.99

02:44:31.420 what to do is this actually him or is this like some random that is um actually the the game he's he 0.96

02:44:38.220 canadian ten dollars that's actually him this is what do you want to say i didn't want to like he

02:44:45.580 probably left like the stream i don't know like i i told you i didn't want to like show because i

02:44:51.820 this is his business wait why is he using canadian dollars it's not i don't know it's not the game

02:44:57.740 right but yeah that's not the game that's just kind of can we i kind of want no okay thank you for

02:45:06.140 the uh 10 canadian richard joy it must have been it was richard joy's sleeper account richard joy with

02:45:12.540 the 10 10 canadian dollars what is the difference of man paying for a couple of nice dinners or just one

02:45:17.820 hour or just one hour and he's satisfied uh what i think he's saying like what's the difference

02:45:26.780 between a guy paying for an escort versus taking a girl on a bunch of dates but like i don't know

02:45:33.580 as a man you pay for it one way or another okay right period right you gotta you pay one way or

02:45:40.380 another your own choice do you want to pay for the dinners or do you want to pay for an escort that's 0.98

02:45:44.140 i can i mean the whole thing with like the escorts though i i've never paid for a uh a prostitute but

02:45:50.060 i can like sort of see why if like you just want to have sex and you don't want to deal with the 0.99

02:45:54.940 fucking game the bullshit you just want to fuck i can kind of see it like for some guy i mean i don't know 1.00

02:46:04.700 come on you're you're making a face you got what what are you thinking um i don't i think it just 1.00

02:46:14.860 means like like effort like and also like you're when a guy like pays for dinner he doesn't like

02:46:21.100 expect or he shouldn't expect anything in return if especially like on a first date like i don't think

02:46:26.460 there should be no expectations maybe like if it's been a few dates like you know but like versus when

02:46:31.580 you're paying for like an escort like there's a very clear exchange here that's going on and like

02:46:36.620 it's like that's very different like if you're going on multiple dates it's because like it's going

02:46:41.180 well and like you guys are vibing so true true true okay veto skeletta the 10 dollar soup chat thank you

02:46:49.020 man these girls are fine if the dude got bukkake and train on but it's off limits for escorts um 1.00

02:46:55.580 wait we never agreed to bukkaking being okay just want to put that out there yeah i don't think they

02:47:02.300 were i i don't think they were super stoked on their on their dude getting bukkake by guys um okay

02:47:08.220 cool that's all the soup chats so wait okay can i just like take it back i swear like you guys said

02:47:13.020 like when it was like well maybe not the bukkake thing but like you're like if it is it okay to have

02:47:18.380 like it's okay if he if like a guy has sex with another guy before but not if he like pays for sex with a

02:47:24.060 woman i think you guys said like yes it's okay if like a guy had sex i think oh sorry i'm gonna

02:47:29.820 meant like if like i don't know maybe like if he's experimenting or like i don't like it's kind of

02:47:35.980 like i feel like if he tried and was like oh like that's not me like that was like kind of like an

02:47:40.460 experience i had like i wouldn't hold it against him but like if maybe if he was like consistently

02:47:45.260 like doing it and like i said i like a masculine man and like i'm not saying men that are into other

02:47:49.820 men are feminine but sometimes they tend to be so like it would have to like align 0.99

02:47:54.060 with like certain things for me but like having like what your examples were extreme like that's

02:47:59.260 like for me that's just like a no and like you know but i'm more meant in the sense that like maybe

02:48:05.260 like he tried something and it didn't work out and like that was it and like for me i think that there's

02:48:09.660 a very big difference for a man paying for money i mean paying money to have sex with a girl versus

02:48:16.140 having some interest in men in the past like those just aren't on similar playgrounds to me

02:48:23.980 word uh so we need to bring it back to the rest of the steven crowder clip because we didn't finish

02:48:28.940 that eric if you can pull that back up and then we have one more video to react to we'll probably wrap

02:48:33.100 in about 30 minutes you can continue

02:48:40.060 slut shaming anybody okay that being said look can we all acknowledge that not most women are 0.99

02:48:49.740 whores okay let's be clear about not not probably not even a plurality okay but some are 0.98

02:48:55.580 and it's a bad idea are we not allowed to say that some are at this point yeah if you're just

02:49:02.380 going on your and you're going into it with the mindset of i am going to sleep around i this because

02:49:07.420 it's my 20s some women are and we'd like to thank your dad find guys that aren't serious about you 0.97

02:49:15.820 don't don't settle for the guys that obviously aren't taking you seriously by the way if you want

02:49:19.340 to be taken seriously be somebody that can be taken seriously as well you didn't quite look like

02:49:23.820 i get it it's this baseline it's this baseline well we're in our 20s this is what we do something

02:49:28.140 happens in you know i was in college so i uh you know was getting ripped all the time look i i

02:49:32.780 drink i'm not someone who i don't drink a lot i have no problem with people who drink i have no

02:49:36.300 problem with people who uh do these things responsibly but to say well the baseline is if

02:49:40.700 you're in college it's four four years of glorified alcoholism it doesn't have to be that way right

02:49:44.940 and this is perpetuated by of course the entertainment industry saying this is what women should 0.52

02:49:47.980 do in your 20s this is what this is what you should do in college no no no you can make good

02:49:51.660 decisions at any point in your life and they're so dumbfounded like exactly no that's not what we

02:49:56.460 mean well what do you mean i mean you know have a bunch of relationships and sleep with a lot of 0.70

02:49:59.740 guys okay here's the issue and i will say it is a double standard when people say why am i a slut if

02:50:03.740 i do this and men aren't okay that is true here's why you're the gatekeeper your set point women you 1.00

02:50:11.660 control access to sex right because your natural set point is no i don't know prove your worth a man's

02:50:17.500 natural set point is please so you are the rate limiting factor take advantage of it we've tried

02:50:23.820 to empower women by stripping them of something with which they're powerful the ability to to pick 0.96

02:50:29.020 a suitor you've given it away yeah you have uh you have value yes you know you have inherent value

02:50:37.020 yeah that you can use like if i ever hit rock bottom i just can't go out and sell myself no you can't

02:50:42.700 no well it's just gonna be the other men yes exactly sweet your guys's reaction to that

02:50:52.860 there's a few things there there's the double standard stuff there's uh

02:50:57.660 promiscuity etc etc i did like how you said like women have value like i think a lot of times 0.98

02:51:03.660 sometimes you don't realize like your value as a woman and like how kind of like powerful you are

02:51:09.260 and like it's your choice on how you want to use yeah that power especially being a young woman too 0.79

02:51:14.220 like it was i was it was interesting i was talking to my dad like me and him have like a lot of

02:51:17.660 discussions and he was telling me he's like you don't even know how much value you have as a young

02:51:22.620 woman he said you were probably one of the most valuable things on this like earth right now and

02:51:29.420 your dad is a legend what are you um what's your like ethnicity what's your background um i'm latina but

02:51:37.580 i'm like super mixed so like he's like um mexican okay like yeah he's we're just super mixed but

02:51:44.380 so but he's like kind of more traditional yeah he's he's very traditional like i would say i'm

02:51:48.780 traditional too but like i said i believe like it's your choice but it was really interesting the way

02:51:53.820 he worded it to me and it really like kind of affected me i was like you're so right he's like

02:51:57.980 he said even just like biologically like your value there's rich men who are want to wife you like

02:52:03.660 they want to pay for you to have their kids and i was like that is really true and i think as a 0.96

02:52:08.460 woman you need to recognize your value whatever that means to you yeah no that that's a really good

02:52:14.060 point and that's a good point that he made in the video that women you're sort of you're born with your 0.89

02:52:19.980 value so in this in the sense that you do have a sort of inherent value that men do not so you could

02:52:29.260 you could make money just buy if you wanted to be a surrogate or uh even if you um i mean the example 0.95

02:52:37.100 he gave was prostitution like if you hit rock bottom just everything you fucked your life up 0.97

02:52:44.940 you could still sell yourself not not great as dudes i don't know luke's pretty handsome he could 0.95

02:52:53.980 probably get away with it we can't just i couldn't sell myself on the street i mean

02:53:03.500 sure you could you think let's go yeah can i be the pimp though and i'm learning what what cut

02:53:09.340 that should be your next like prank show going up to girls and being like how much money would you pay 0.94

02:53:14.300 to get with me and seeing like oh yeah they'll say zero for sure i'll get roasted for sure

02:53:19.420 but uh did you want to come in on the reaction to the video um there was a lot going on there i mean

02:53:28.860 the one thing i was thinking about right now is just like the way he said that women are the

02:53:33.740 gatekeepers or we have that decision to be like no or maybe or yes and men are just like please

02:53:40.460 again like i've said this so many times but like that's just the biggest question i have is like

02:53:44.780 why does it come back to it being women's fault and women having to fix ourselves in order to fit 1.00

02:53:50.140 that standard better or to make it more likable for men it sounds like men are upset that they don't

02:53:55.420 have the same privileges as women because of their own for lack of better word horniness in a lot of 1.00

02:54:01.340 cases wait what like it just sounds like a bunch of men complaining about women like not being a good

02:54:12.220 enough and stuff so just to clarify my question so you disagree that women are the gatekeepers to sex 1.00

02:54:18.860 i'm not disagreeing with it i'm saying it's true but i'm just saying like why does it have to come

02:54:22.940 back to us needing to fix ourselves to do better for us like why do we need to whereas like in reality

02:54:30.220 it's just like men not having the same access to those things and so it just sounds like men are kind

02:54:36.620 of upset about well it's it's something that it's that is in women's control if women are the gatekeepers 1.00

02:54:43.260 but who made us the gatekeepers like men have women women are the selectors women are the selectors

02:54:50.780 so as far as i'll get i'll let you come in in just a sec so women are the gatekeepers you choose 1.00

02:54:58.620 so your question is also in who they want to sleep with to a degree but i mean it's not like

02:55:10.700 women choose who they want to have sex to women choose who they have want to have sex with okay 0.99

02:55:16.300 there's there's a saying it goes women sleep with who they want men sleep with who they can exactly 0.96

02:55:22.220 so if the way that should be fixed i think is not women should sleep with who they can i don't

02:55:31.500 think that's what should that's not what he's saying about it no i think he's saying the opposite

02:55:35.100 yeah and that's what i think as well but it's like the way he makes it sound is like these women 0.98

02:55:40.380 need to be doing better these women aren't good enough they're promiscuous they're slutty they're 1.00

02:55:44.540 ran through yeah he's saying not i think that but like sure that is valid but at the same time 0.98

02:55:52.780 why can't men just have higher standards why can't men be doing better for themselves you know but what

02:55:57.340 the thing is is that if you're you're trying to shift the blame to men here but the thing is is

02:56:05.820 that because women are the gatekeepers it kind of falls on you it does but i don't think that it

02:56:13.660 should okay if if every single women are able to dictate the terms when it comes to sexual access 1.00

02:56:20.540 so if every single woman there was a grand conspiracy and they every single woman agreed 0.99

02:56:26.140 we're not sleeping with men until we're married with them you guys would be screwed then well then 0.65

02:56:31.820 men are going to have to adapt women are never going if if men were just like women men adapt to what 0.97

02:56:40.060 women do so the reason men aren't doing first dates and all this anymore is because women just be 1.00

02:56:48.380 sleeping around if that was the standard for the plurality of women then that's what men would be 0.99

02:56:54.780 doing but if men can just be like come over what are you doing 12 a.m come over then that's what's

02:57:00.780 gonna that's what's gonna go down because men and women's sexual strategy is a bit different but

02:57:06.380 you wanted to come in go ahead i agree with the video and that i think like it's true that women 0.98

02:57:14.620 just have so much power and i don't think they understand it and i think it's people treat you

02:57:22.300 how you expect to be treated and people place value on you how you give value to yourself so i i don't

02:57:28.220 think it's ever good to go into like a victim mentality anyways it's always good to take responsibility

02:57:32.860 and ownership like for your life and how people treat you and so i think like like

02:57:40.220 there is like some responsibility like on women to like hold themselves at a higher value and like 0.86

02:57:46.620 i don't think i think women should have more appreciation for how much power they have in terms 1.00

02:57:50.700 of like being gatekeepers and that they can make men do a lot of things because they hold like so much

02:57:58.380 power there and i think it's it is like i think just shying away from that responsibility isn't

02:58:02.540 really helping anyone i think it's like incredibly empowering to like own that responsibility of okay

02:58:07.660 i'm gonna be in control of like how i'm treated interesting we'll get to you guys in a sec you said

02:58:12.940 that your dad told you that as a young woman that's when you what did he tell you exactly he said it's

02:58:18.860 he literally said it's it's more valuable than gold he said it's one of the most valuable things to be a

02:58:23.500 young like he said young beautiful like being like a young beautiful woman is like one of the most

02:58:28.460 valuable things that you can be and like he was just trying to like explain to me like that like

02:58:34.060 the power you hold as a woman in general and he like he's like i don't know like i get my arguments

02:58:39.900 with him whatever but he was like he was like oh like a 40 year old woman didn't have sorry guys he was

02:58:45.020 like a 40 year old woman doesn't have the same value as a 20 year old woman which i don't like agree with

02:58:49.980 you know but like he explains things like really like i don't know like he's a little misogynistic

02:58:55.340 like you know okay so i think probably what he's saying in terms of value it's not like not your

02:59:06.060 value in terms of you as a human like your yeah like your life like your your soul your spirit or

02:59:13.100 whatever he's saying on the sexual marketplace on the dating marketplace in the marriage marketplace

02:59:21.020 yeah a young 20 year old woman has is more has more value in those marketplaces than does a woman 1.00

02:59:28.380 who's 40. yeah and and part of the reason for that is if you want to have children

02:59:33.820 like a woman who's 40 year old can be fantastic woman but let's say you're a guy who's 40 she's not 1.00

02:59:48.460 a great bet for having children yeah that's like so if you want to have a family as a guy you want

02:59:54.380 you want to have kids you want to have a family you're probably as a 40 year old man you're probably

02:59:58.860 going to be looking to a 30 year old woman a 40 year old woman you can get pregnant but like at 35

03:00:06.060 that's when you're in high risk pregnancy territory greater likelihood of miscarriage uh greater

03:00:11.420 likelihood of uh birth defects and yeah i mean me and him were getting in this argument or discussion

03:00:17.260 about like high what a high value man is versus a high value woman and what did he say he said that a

03:00:22.780 high value woman is based on her looks and a high value man is based on his resources how much money

03:00:29.420 he has all these things and like i was just getting in like you guys can't even like say what you think

03:00:34.140 like i was just trying to kind of disagreeing with him being like there's a lot more to value than just

03:00:38.300 how you look or just how much money you have you know but he was like disagreeing with me on and like

03:00:43.500 we were just i think that there's definitely more to to to it than looks for sure um he said like a

03:00:52.540 submit like just a woman that's just gonna like like like you said like be young like have kids 1.00

03:00:57.820 look pretty and like do like he was very like we were getting in a heated discussion like we were

03:01:03.020 going at it yeah i mean there's definitely more to it than looks for sure but i think i mean i think

03:01:08.540 for both men and women looks are pretty important so yeah like that's what he was telling me like he was

03:01:15.180 just telling me straight up like looks is really important and as a woman you need to understand what

03:01:19.020 you look like and understand like the value that holds well i mean basically when you're young

03:01:25.500 as a woman you're you are basically from the ages of say like 18 to 25 you're at your strongest

03:01:32.860 negotiating position let's just say you can probably if you were so inclined in that age range is when

03:01:39.740 you're going to be best able to secure a very like probably the best guy that you can probably get

03:01:48.220 that's a statistic actually it's like i think after like 26 is like when people want to get

03:01:52.620 married because you met like 67 percent of like your options or something yeah whereas for men it

03:01:59.100 tends to be a little bit older it's like 30 to 40 in that age range is when men tend to be in their

03:02:07.020 strongest negotiating position in terms of the sexual marketplace and the merit the dating marketplace the

03:02:13.500 relationship marketplace yeah well i like actually have a question like what do you think defines

03:02:17.580 like a high value man actually for the women what do you think and then for the men a high value women

03:02:24.700 we'll start over here if you guys want to go first probably just like a guy who doesn't just like

03:02:30.140 give himself away so easily and just like takes care of himself and like wants the best for

03:02:36.060 um just like a guy who wants the best for himself what do you mean give him away so he's himself

03:02:42.140 always like it's laid to to get laid yeah and yeah well even to get later just like go out on the 0.51

03:02:49.820 weekends and like do stupid stuff and just like think that's funny and like the best that their life is 0.96

03:02:56.140 going to get 0.99

03:02:58.780 Luke what happened this weekend what did you do this week or what was it the previous weekend it was it was

03:03:05.260 this weekend what did you do last weekend so we went on on the street and i did a do you want to go

03:03:12.780 hook up prank no no no no no the you're uh you oh you something like it was friday night i think oh

03:03:21.260 me i jumped off a garage roof and i tweaked my backup were you tanked i was pretty saying okay well i'm

03:03:32.220 talking about like repetitive actions like that like every weekend like do you do that like every 0.93

03:03:38.460 single weekend or is it like a one-time luke's a fucking legend i go okay i don't like go and hurt 0.99

03:03:45.420 myself every weekend oh my god that'd be terrible no but i'll like you know if i'm doing something i'm 0.99

03:03:50.940 gonna go i'm gonna go 100 what the what i just had like the gnarliest little speech impediment god damn 0.71

03:03:59.820 i didn't even know this okay yes i when i when i go out and it's not every weekend but it's 0.57

03:04:07.740 you know i like to go out have fun party and by the way that doesn't mean get with women 0.92

03:04:14.380 just for the chat and everyone else like luke is a man of god

03:04:17.660 i'm not religious but yeah just go with it i'll go with it um but yeah you know i'll go out and do

03:04:27.580 some crazy sometimes stupid stuff but it's fun yolo like how often do you do it okay well like is it 0.85

03:04:35.340 like three times a week or like i don't know like no it's like it's like two times a week 0.92

03:04:40.140 no but it's not like me doing stupid stuff and when i've been like you like

03:04:46.140 your back up or like what did you do we don't we don't have to go it's fine let's continue on with

03:04:52.700 her question so your question was what it what constitutes a high high status high value man

03:05:00.940 for you guys can even answer what do you think a high value man is

03:05:03.660 would you consider yourself a high value man good question i i would consider myself a high

03:05:11.900 value man because i know when to be loyal i know how to show emotions in the right way without being

03:05:18.860 overly like aggressive and i know you know i can provide for my my partner my girlfriend i can

03:05:29.500 yeah i feel like i'm a very high value man

03:05:33.660 me uh

03:05:39.580 in some ways um i would say in some ways i am

03:05:44.460 but perhaps not in others i'm working on i'm working on a couple things you know i gotta

03:05:49.580 i gotta get ripped like luke here you know my i've sort of uh you know i got a little tries going on but

03:05:56.140 like you know i'm kind of i've been i've been slacking on the

03:06:00.060 on the exercising so i i want to get back into uh proper shape um but uh i think i mean i don't

03:06:11.420 party i don't go to clubs i don't go to bars i don't drink i don't do drugs career-wise i'm doing

03:06:17.340 well ish kind of i mean i'd obviously like to be doing better um i think i've got my head screwed

03:06:22.780 on straight pretty well and uh

03:06:27.580 yeah

03:06:27.900 what do you think a high value woman is like what's your definition 1.00

03:06:35.660 so well just to wrap up on my thing so i'm i'm getting there i'm not there yet but like i feel like

03:06:44.860 anyways so what what's a high value woman low body count not promiscuous 1.00

03:06:50.460 feminine 0.98

03:06:56.700 cooperative not going to give me a headache

03:07:02.540 no labiaplasty no labiaplasty 411 410 0.91

03:07:08.460 shorter the better the shorter the better

03:07:10.300 like 410 beef curtain queens is what the chat likes to say

03:07:18.940 you know maybe like a bit of a wizard sleeve you know but um no but like 0.96

03:07:25.180 it's unfortunate women are shamed if they have large labia i'm i it's just unfortunate right luke 1.00

03:07:30.620 yep yeah luke agrees no it's unfortunate but uh yeah 4 411 large labia

03:07:36.220 uh no he's for real huh he's for real like i don't know why people are laughing right now

03:07:41.900 no i'm i'm dead serious do you do you think it's attractive when it's big enough to be used as a

03:07:46.060 quilt what dude the bigger the bigger the better luke the bigger the better 0.99

03:07:53.020 well i mean women have penis size preferences i can't have a labia preference hello um but uh 1.00

03:07:59.020 anyways so uh yeah pro i i want to say 0.98

03:08:06.780 has her head on straight doesn't go the isn't like crazy into partying and stuff 0.99

03:08:13.100 yeah uh probably more on the luke yeah if you want to come in um

03:08:21.820 respectful um loyal

03:08:23.900 nose nose i think those are honestly the two things i i would say you know pretty face fit 0.73

03:08:34.860 kind of the same thing a woman would want in a guy but you know

03:08:41.420 if if again like if if i'm talking to a woman i want i want my woman to be respectful and loyal and

03:08:49.660 you know pretty and again like i said fit those are like my big what is that four my big four i guess

03:08:57.180 you don't really have to go anything outside of that what was it fit feminine and friendly no

03:09:02.780 the three f's fit feminine loyal and respectful yeah loyalty huge from the jump right 0.91

03:09:11.820 first text message yeah that should be first easily loyal loyal loyal he has now invented a new word

03:09:21.820 loyal it's getting late for me about which part a high what's a what's a high value man to you oh um

03:09:28.940 i would say also loyalty is a big thing for me but i have like the worst trust issues

03:09:35.100 because every like actual relationship i've been in they've cheated on me so as much as i want to

03:09:40.780 say like loyalty i think guys are loyal and then blindsided boom don't know how it happens but have

03:09:46.620 you ever cheated no you've always been cheated on twice yes every relationship real relationship

03:09:54.780 real relationship i haven't dated since end of high school beginning of college so like

03:09:58.860 yeah fair enough but i would say loyalty is a big thing um definitely sense of humor like that's that

03:10:08.460 doesn't really determine your value but for me personally like i value that in someone if they

03:10:12.620 have a good like personality slash sense of humor can make me laugh um i want somebody that is open-minded

03:10:19.900 honestly because i think that there's a lot of people that once they have their mind made up they

03:10:23.900 stick to that and i think that that is just not the way to go about life like there's just too many

03:10:28.620 different types of people and different types of things i really would want somebody that's open

03:10:32.300 minded and can think about things and like intelligent is really big for me too

03:10:38.460 i like the open-minded thing and the personality thing i think that's another big one yeah okay i got

03:10:43.820 one so did everyone get a chance to come in on this or should we just move up move on to the next topic

03:10:53.900 i like didn't but it's not like do you want to come in it's not like anything like especially

03:10:58.540 different i feel like yeah it's the same it's like respectful loyalty like everything entertaining

03:11:05.180 though is the only other one entertaining yeah that's so what do you mean by entertaining like

03:11:08.860 funny yeah like funny and just like not boring like like people that have something to say that

03:11:16.700 are like adventurous outgoing oh also like nature is really important to me so someone like in nature

03:11:22.060 outdoorsy hikes very physical like yeah loves to travel like those are like important things to me

03:11:28.860 i feel like give me a boring woman i want the most boring woman ever you don't have to be funny 0.99

03:11:38.300 okay that's gonna

03:11:41.180 anyways um okay do you guys want to get married and do you want to have children that's my next question yes and

03:11:47.580 yes i think i want to but i don't know if i will for both of those questions yes okay

03:12:00.220 definitely i think about like the type of like like i think about like qualities i want and like

03:12:06.140 need to have my future husband like honestly like multiple times a week and i like think about like how

03:12:10.780 excited i am to like care for and raise like my children like i'm so excited to meet them even though it's

03:12:16.940 like you know probably like you already have their names 10 years away no but i'm just like i don't

03:12:21.740 know how many but like i'm just i like think about that and like i'm excited about that like already you

03:12:25.900 mentioned you you think about the qualities that you are going to want in the husband what are those

03:12:29.980 qualities um you can list yeah so dependable reliable similar interests loyal hard-working ambitious

03:12:42.060 it's a lot but like i take like marriage very seriously i don't intend to like ever have a

03:12:46.700 divorce so like that's also very important like i'm like really picky because i'm i'm not gonna

03:12:52.860 marry and i will never like if i'm having kids with you for the sake of my children i will never divorce

03:12:57.340 you so i have to make sure you're someone i can count on like for the you'll never what like i would

03:13:02.300 never like if i have kids like i i don't want to divorce the father of my children yeah and yeah and then

03:13:08.380 also like good father like i think about like what kind of not just like what kind of like fun

03:13:12.940 like hot husband do i want like it's more like who's the type of person that i want like raising my

03:13:17.900 children i think about that

03:13:23.500 yeah 100 for both of them okay yeah i want to have kids and i want to get married but like

03:13:30.380 coming from a home with divorced parents i don't want to like have to get married and then get a

03:13:36.380 divorce because like that was a lot for me and my brothers and i wouldn't want to put that on my kids

03:13:42.540 yeah i'm in the same boat i i do want to get married and i do want to have kids but i don't

03:13:46.620 want to go through a divorce okay i i want to come in really quick here just with a couple things

03:13:53.100 i want to clarify something i said earlier i was being a bit uh hyperbolic um i don't want a boring

03:14:00.300 woman like a woman who bores me but like i don't care if a funny is so low on the totem pole like i 0.51

03:14:07.580 don't need a woman who's funny or who's like really quick with the banter if she if she has it great but 0.97

03:14:14.380 like i do not it's very low priority for me so but if she's like super dull in the sense of like if i'm

03:14:22.220 trying to have a conversation with her and it's just one word answers that would be kind of a

03:14:29.100 problem i obviously want someone i could have a i can conversate with but you don't need to be a 0.99

03:14:35.980 fucking stand-up comedian i don't give a fuck um okay so on the topic of marriage i have some sobering 0.99

03:14:44.780 numbers here 50 of marriages end in divorce 80 of divorces are initiated by women 90 of child 1.00

03:14:51.900 support 90 of child support payments go from men to women 97 of alimony payments go from men to women

03:15:04.220 guys don't get married don't get married would y'all get a prenup prenups can be thrown out

03:15:11.260 even if you have a prenup 20 years later oh i was forced into it i was i was uh you know pressured

03:15:21.900 boom the the super feminist judge yeah throws it out boom okay now you're on the hook 1.00

03:15:32.860 so but yeah prenups get thrown out all the time even if you have a lawyer drafted up guys guys don't

03:15:40.300 trust a prenup like that's not going to protect you so you like genuinely don't think um men should get 0.97

03:15:45.740 married no i don't like perhaps in the past the legal institution of marriage or you mean like

03:15:54.380 the sake of like having a home like you don't think men should have a single partner and they

03:15:57.660 raise their kids no i i believe i think you can have a a life partner but marriage the institution of

03:16:03.100 marriage um it's bad it's bad i don't think you mentioned the government i don't think you shouldn't

03:16:09.980 let the government get involved with your love life um then that's when you get the courts involved

03:16:16.300 then that's when the lawyers get involved so but guys be careful in some states even if you're not

03:16:22.860 married there's something called i think it's called uh common law marriage if you cohabitate

03:16:28.380 with a woman for a certain period of time they're going to treat it like a marriage and she could be 0.99

03:16:32.220 entitled to your stuff so look into what state that you're in because it can be uh you can still get 0.94

03:16:38.380 fucking screwed there so yeah i don't think men should get married because the thing is is that 0.97

03:16:44.220 um let's see it's just marriage is not okay there might be a scenario where i would get married if i was 0.99

03:16:55.900 so 100 certain that that i was going to be with that woman forever because what are the vows what are

03:17:03.180 the marriage vows till death do us part the divorce rate is 50 percent people's word means nothing you

03:17:12.140 cannot say till death do us part and get a divorce if i'm getting married it's for life yeah that's it

03:17:21.900 i certainly agree with that i think people should be a lot more choosing about like who they're marrying

03:17:26.940 and that's easy to say like none of us clearly obviously have like been in those situations so maybe

03:17:31.580 like when people are getting married they genuinely think this is their person forever but overall

03:17:36.380 like just based on those rates i feel like people just aren't being aren't paying enough attention or

03:17:42.140 like thinking as clearly about like is this really what i want to do i think that's what a lot of what

03:17:47.420 like love does to people though is like in that honeymoon phase thinking you're so like into one person

03:17:54.540 where like you're like this is my life person and then you're married and then you have kids and then

03:17:59.500 years down the road you realize there's all these things that you may not like about them or how

03:18:03.340 they handle certain conflicts and stuff and then divorce comes around but it's like so many of

03:18:08.300 those people i'm sure that they would have never even known that or recognize that they would be in

03:18:12.460 that place years later like i don't think it's something that you can really predict and i think

03:18:16.220 that when you're in those relationships love does a really good job of blinding you from those flaws

03:18:21.180 yeah i mean worse can also be like the easiest way out like you can go to like i don't know like

03:18:27.820 someone to talk to and like fix your relationship but some people don't have like that commitment and

03:18:32.300 can just like just like divorce yeah i mean she would for me to get married like she has to be my 1.00

03:18:37.900 ride or die but like i'm pretty skeptical that it's ever gonna happen i have like a hypothetical like

03:18:44.540 let's say you were like with a woman right let's say it's been like eight years and she's like why 0.88

03:18:48.780 aren't we married yet like i love you like what's like i feel like as a woman i would question like

03:18:53.980 your your commitment to me and then what if she's like i'm gonna leave you unless you don't marry me 0.93

03:18:59.180 like what would you do would you really like and you were like you have been with her for like let's

03:19:04.220 say she even had a kid or like because you're so strict on like not getting married it's like

03:19:08.620 i don't see i i guess as a man i don't see the benefit of getting married you would let her go

03:19:14.620 oh so you're saying she gives she gives me an ultimatum yeah marry me or we're done

03:19:18.460 because like i think oh we're done then after eight years she's giving me an ultimatum to get

03:19:23.580 married because like i would why should your commitment what what changes when we get married

03:19:28.700 what is the difference that's a good point what's the what changes really a lot i think a lot changes

03:19:35.340 like my advice to men is do not enter into contracts with people that are rewarded for breaking them

03:19:44.220 women in today's day and age are rewarded for divorcing men financially so if if there if there 1.00

03:19:53.260 was a reworking of the marriage laws why do you have that then have what that picture of two people 1.00

03:19:59.740 being me those are my parents those are my parents and they're happily married they've been married for

03:20:04.700 do you think your dad made a mistake by getting married not at all but but

03:20:08.700 well i i don't think it's hypocritical i mean i love my parents that's part of my parents they're

03:20:15.660 also not a good like example of today's generation well it's yeah it's totally different i mean they

03:20:20.460 got married in the in the 80s yeah so i mean don't you look at your parents be like oh i want that

03:20:26.700 that's not like well certainly i mean i think a life partner would be fantastic and i definitely i'm

03:20:33.020 i'm not opposed to yeah you're just opposed to like the legality of the government controlling 0.75

03:20:38.540 yeah i don't want the yeah but first off fuck the government i don't trust yeah but like much of 1.00

03:20:43.260 canada like much of like dude canada's cucked as fuck cucked what do you mean i was gonna say like in 1.00

03:20:49.660 in quebec like are you are you canadian no i've just my brother plays ice hockey so i've just 0.99

03:20:55.820 traveled there quite a bit but like in quebec the majority of marriages there is you're not you don't

03:20:59.980 get legally married you have it's the exact same thing but there's no government label on it

03:21:04.140 and that's like in a lot of like european countries do that too like marriage is not as prevalent

03:21:09.180 elsewhere like as a legal contract so if all you're saying is like i don't want to enter like the legal

03:21:15.100 contract of it but i just want like but you are you would be in support of like a life partner right

03:21:19.900 sure like going to the church like you know like that's you're not like you know like i think it

03:21:24.060 well i'd have to look into the legalities of if you do get married in the church is that would

03:21:29.260 that constitute a marriage and what you know there's so i'd have to look into that eric can

03:21:33.180 you just on the canada thing on the other window you don't have to pull it up right now um can you

03:21:38.460 search canada common law marriage boyfriend has to pay girlfriend alimony something like that

03:21:49.260 because i read a story in canada by the by the way richard joy sorry for talking about canada

03:21:54.540 um i read a story that in canada there's a a guy fairly wealthy guy who was cohabitating with his

03:22:02.380 girlfriend for a couple years they weren't married the canadian courts ruled they broke up or something

03:22:08.220 the can canadian courts ruled that he had to financially provide for her even though they 0.99

03:22:15.020 weren't married and they split up so canada courts are cucked to fucking that's terrible um like i think 0.98

03:22:23.340 that then that's like why did you like that's just on the person like that's on the moral value 0.98

03:22:27.820 of the person like i would never even if things ended badly if i had a husband like i would never 0.98

03:22:32.860 want to like fuck him over like that like that's just then she's just like a bad person i feel like 1.00

03:22:39.820 yeah okay so here it is um eric do you see the do you have uh it's from the national post do you have 1.00

03:22:46.940 that one yeah it's the uh unmarried ontario couple do you see that one

03:22:56.460 yeah um oh can you uh control mouse wheel perfect unmarried ontario couple had no children in no 1.00

03:23:04.300 house but man must still pay support appeal court rules um so and then it goes oh shit fucking um 0.99

03:23:13.660 scroll down just a tad stop there or back up back up back up uh further up further up 0.99

03:23:21.500 keep going keep going no up yep uh okay that's good that's good that's good a wealthy businessman

03:23:27.500 will have to pay more than fifty thousand dollars a month in spousal support for 10 years to a woman 1.00

03:23:31.820 with whom he had a long-term romantic relationship even though they kept separate homes and had no

03:23:38.220 children together okay so in canada you you don't even have to get married and the 0.99

03:23:43.580 fucking government's gonna come for you so to me this is fucking ridiculous but anyways i just 0.98

03:23:48.780 because you brought up canada so um you can bring it back eric um did you guys want to come in on 0.99

03:23:53.820 something anything okay um i didn't mean but did i cut someone off with the canada i didn't

03:24:03.820 okay uh we got some super chats here and then we got one video and then we're gonna wrap up thank you

03:24:08.140 guys uh let's see uh wait where were we mike davis me and her dad would get on well tell him to hit me 1.00

03:24:17.980 up and we'll do business mike davis thank you the ten dollar soup chat um yeah your dad sounds like a

03:24:25.580 fucking legend can he is he down to be a guest on the podcast yeah i mean i don't i don't know if i 0.87

03:24:30.780 could even get him down here he was in san francisco he's an sf dude that'd be kind of interesting like 0.97

03:24:36.540 to bring on like a dad you would stir the pot if a dad and his daughter were here that's just too

03:24:43.420 risky i told him no he could come on like just without oh just without my dad okay yeah all right

03:24:50.780 brian your dad your dad's a babe obviously i mean yeah but uh that would be interesting you should

03:24:58.540 bring on a bunch of dads yeah yeah let's bring on some like based latino dads okay uh richard joy

03:25:05.820 with the uh canadian five uh but you first girls thought a trail ride on horse was a terrible invite 0.99

03:25:15.260 uh yeah they did not like the uh trail ride man um yo mike davis hey mike davis i i saw this thing uh

03:25:24.220 brian you can blame this youtube communist pc censorship for my lack of presence 90 of my

03:25:30.140 comments are roasts that don't go through mike davis here's what i'm going to do right now um i'm going

03:25:35.580 to uh i want some roasts mike davis i'm going to white list you in our back end so that should allow

03:25:45.180 every single one of your comments to go through youtube has like automated moderation like if even 0.90

03:25:50.540 if you say the word like crap or shit um so let me um let me do that or i could just do it after the 0.75

03:25:57.980 show really quick it might take me a sec um but mike davis we will white list you just so that your 0.98

03:26:05.180 comments do go through um let me let me do it after the show mike davis but uh i'll white list you so

03:26:11.740 that's not a problem uh okay so we talked about oh marriage the the thing i wanted to finish off with

03:26:19.020 but bro i'm fucking spazzing it's late so i have a list here eric can you or i'll hide the super chat 0.98

03:26:26.700 my bed uh let's see i have a list here of some men who have been divorced 0.96

03:26:35.420 brad pitt johnny depp will smith jeff bezos bill gates ellen musk ryan reynolds tom brady lance

03:26:42.780 armstrong alex rodriguez channing tatum chris rock ben affleck chris pratt liam hensworth ben stiller

03:26:51.340 david dukovny orlando bloom tiger woods sean penn sylvester stallone paul mccartney ryan felipe

03:26:59.100 justin timberlake jason momoa michael jordan michael b jordan the actor and hulk hogan maybe that last

03:27:06.940 one's not surprising but if these men can't hold on to a girl what chance do you think you have

03:27:23.260 wait was that a question no that's sorry that's a that's addressed to the chat guys these are very

03:27:29.500 high status high value men they got divorced their wives divorced them all of them the wives 0.99

03:27:36.380 divorced them or did they divorce their wives i'm not sure maybe it was amicable i don't know but

03:27:41.900 the fact of the matter is brad pitt got divorced yeah if brad pitt is getting divorced 0.97

03:27:51.580 we're fucked gentlemen i'm sorry we're fucked i feel like you're fully erasing like relationship 0.99

03:27:56.620 issues like i like there's just problems that arise when you've been with someone i'm sure 0.99

03:28:01.180 fame and all this adds another layer to it like he said ellen musk sorry i can't obviously i can't

03:28:07.260 pronounce elon musk my bad elon musk but go ahead yeah i think you're just fully like erasing like

03:28:15.180 relationship it doesn't matter like how great you are sometimes things just don't work out and

03:28:20.780 also fame is involved in every single one of those like anecdotes which always puts a pressure on like

03:28:28.460 relationships i'd say and also like if you give me a list that was like these are all people who

03:28:31.980 like their wives left them these are like famous handsome celebrities whose wives left them like

03:28:36.380 we'd have a different conversation but just because they got a divorce like could equally be like them

03:28:40.860 leaving their wife or like any other thing involved but either way like i don't see the point of doing

03:28:45.340 anecdotes like your parents that's a good anecdote for why like marriage works my parents good anecdote

03:28:50.780 for why marriage works so i just like you can just pick and choose whatever you want i feel like i

03:28:54.380 suppose i mean but i would say probably most i i didn't go into each one and determine hey was it

03:29:00.380 was it a mutual divorce but i think the thing is we do have the stats for divorce broadly speaking

03:29:10.140 80 percent of divorces are initiated by women so it's not a good bet as a man to get divorced or

03:29:18.060 sorry to get married my bad um so okay i want to open it up we're going to wrap here soon we're going

03:29:25.340 to do one video i want to give you guys an opportunity to come in final thought or question for the panel

03:29:33.420 luke you got anything no not really posture check

03:29:40.140 anything final thought or question um i just feel like a lot of divorces when

03:29:48.620 it becomes a divorce a lot of money that is like supposed to go to the other person doesn't

03:29:53.980 actually go to the other person like does that make sense like say there was like a child involved

03:30:00.220 that knew how to kid and there was like child support and the mom was supposed to give the dad 0.99

03:30:05.420 money for since the dad is taking care of the child i feel like a lot of those times

03:30:09.980 the parent never actually pays the other parent and it just becomes like an issue between like the

03:30:15.900 child and the parents when there's not child support being paid yeah or just like a divorce in general

03:30:22.940 if you have a kid involved like it just becomes a lot of like more issues

03:30:27.900 the child support thing is a gendered issue because 1.00

03:30:44.620 like i said 90 of child support support payments go from men to women and there's actually i mean

03:30:50.300 in the u.s you can be put in jail if you don't pay child support so we've done away with debtors

03:31:01.020 jails debtors prisons so if you owe a debt to someone it can never get to the point where where you

03:31:08.380 could be put in jail if you owe a debt and you don't pay it except for child support which impacts

03:31:16.300 disproportionately men 0.87

03:31:21.820 i didn't know that

03:31:24.860 wait so but well okay what so your final thought was

03:31:29.900 i don't know i guess like that having children complicates marriage of course yeah and divorce

03:31:37.340 definitely well you never actually know the issues between the people that are married

03:31:45.340 like for example take it like the the what's his name did like the trials with johnny death and

03:31:51.420 um amber heard for example like we don't actually know you get what i mean oh we know yeah well we 0.98

03:31:59.020 know a lot she took a shit in his bed yeah okay yeah okay well that was a bad example and she sliced 1.00

03:32:05.180 it she threw a ball at him sliced his finger off yeah okay yeah okay that was a bad example but like 1.00

03:32:10.620 for the rest like you said brad pitt for example like do you know what happened between him and his

03:32:16.220 wife i don't know but he's incredibly handsome yeah i guess you guess you guess what is like yeah but

03:32:26.300 if he's what if he's a complete yeah i don't know the guy i don't know he seems like yeah i don't know

03:32:30.780 he seems pretty i mean i've never met the guy exactly or wait or wait no he did come he was he spoke at

03:32:38.860 the santa barbara international film festival and i glanced at him wow in person okay but uh

03:32:47.980 i mean i we don't know sure but he seems like a pretty fucking cool guy yeah he seems like it but 0.63

03:32:54.460 you never you have no idea who he is he could be doing some crazy satanic ritual yeah like you

03:33:00.860 wouldn't know that you literally don't know you seem like a cool guy but like yeah we don't know

03:33:05.420 we don't even know your body count that's how closed off you are yeah i would feel like it i i i bet

03:33:12.620 angelina is the satanic ritual of one in that dynamic but

03:33:19.420 yo that's just assuming so okay so final thought or question

03:33:25.820 that you never know the issue between two people until you actually okay

03:33:29.820 mine is just like what i was saying before i think like both men and women just need to be

03:33:36.940 like pickier with their partners like in a good way and have their like values and priorities like

03:33:42.060 set yeah and in the right order word word

03:33:48.940 does it have to be related to the topic right now or is this no no it's just we're wrapping up so if you

03:33:53.740 have a final thought or question if you have a question for me you have a question for the girls

03:33:57.340 um got a question for mike davis so here's some costume ideas for halloween because this is not

03:34:03.500 my halloween costume this year so i'd love some ideas sailor moon sailor moon can i borrow that one

03:34:12.860 let's talk after the show word we'll talk after

03:34:16.620 uh yeah that's all i think uh sailor moon would be good i think cat lady would be a good one i do have

03:34:27.340 the meow mix is somewhere i don't know uh yeah v for vendetta we got a couple in the chats

03:34:36.380 kent 42 says be a potato uh let's see what else 0.95

03:34:42.620 slutty ninja pantsu jutsu cat woman okay there you go all right that's all i needed to hear just 0.99

03:34:49.980 my trying to think if you look like a superhero like a female superhero you could be 1.00

03:34:57.340 i don't know okay um you could be starfire star i was thinking of that one

03:35:06.380 wait good job luke can i be raven that's good okay we're set really good actually that'd be really

03:35:12.220 good i really want to be raven yeah luke you can be beast boy i'm down i'm down to be beast boy

03:35:17.100 oh yeah okay we're set that's all i had boom that's all i had to figure out it's done you could be

03:35:23.740 robin who the who the like robin and bet and yeah we're talking about the teen titans

03:35:31.980 it's okay he doesn't want any part in it yeah it's okay okay uh final thought or question um thanks for

03:35:39.020 having me on thank you for coming you're great the whole i really like the whole panel you guys were

03:35:43.980 awesome okay so we're gonna wrap up here with a video eric uh could you pull up the video tab please

03:35:51.180 um uh do we do the we do we do the who pays one i don't know uh do we do a tate one i said but let's

03:36:01.740 do the tate one we haven't done a let's do the forehead body count

03:36:04.940 i think 99 of the world's problems would be solved if females walked through life with their body 1.00

03:36:15.180 count on their forehead because it would prevent because it would prevent all of the disintegration

03:36:22.780 of morals it would prevent so many things about the world and women would be like to be with me as a 1.00

03:36:30.620 man i don't want to put another number on my forehead you have to be a good man they wouldn't 1.00

03:36:34.940 stop in these idiots and stop being idiots and all the idiocy would disappear all the degeneracy would 1.00

03:36:39.500 disappear families would return virgins meeting their first man staying with him her whole life 1.00

03:36:45.100 and being proud of it couldn't we go back to such a beautiful age all we have to do is start putting

03:36:49.500 numbers on girls foreheads we could fix everything that attitude is disgusting okay uh your guys's reaction to 1.00

03:36:56.620 that you know what's funny is like when i first watched andrew tay i literally thought he was a

03:37:01.580 joke like i literally thought like he was playing a character i did not think he was i thought he was

03:37:05.820 joking i thought he was joking like i did not think he was being for real about what he was saying

03:37:11.100 and like i don't agree that it would solve our world's problems as if men don't like it's you know

03:37:17.260 it's equal in the sense that men and women both create problems together so i don't think having a 0.89

03:37:23.580 body count on my forehead is gonna solve anything at all so yeah and like again it just sounds like

03:37:31.340 he's placing blame on women for all of the things that have gone wrong in society but i just i don't

03:37:38.060 think it is i think still goes back to men like there's a big argument on it and we could probably

03:37:44.700 talk for the rest of the night because it's already almost 11 p.m we'll run it back we'll get you on

03:37:49.260 again another time yeah maybe one day we'll solve it but like i don't know i just i will never be able

03:37:53.980 to look at that man seriously and full-heartedly agree with the words that he's saying

03:38:00.780 i think if it encourages women to take like their bodies and their relationships more seriously then i

03:38:10.220 think it would be a good thing i guess yeah when i first moved here mom like my mom did so much 0.85

03:38:24.300 like much research about like things that's happening in the u.s blah blah and she said that there's this

03:38:31.500 term i can't remember what it's called but that men get rejected like by women to the extent that they

03:38:38.940 start being like hateful towards them if that makes sense and i feel like andrew tate is like

03:38:45.580 one of those like i just feel like he's just like he's seen us like i'm better than everyone else you

03:38:50.940 get what i mean i don't think he's hating on men no not men oh i mean women i don't think he was like

03:38:55.900 hating on women though i think he is yeah like everything he says is so just against women and it's like

03:39:03.900 saying like all these guys are just like so good and just like he says he targets all these things

03:39:11.980 like he says all these things that are targeting women but it's like what woman is actually watching

03:39:18.540 him like it's just yeah i feel like guys who feel like they need more validation those are the guys who

03:39:25.660 watch andrew tate yeah that's luke oh by the way did you have any left did i give you an opportunity

03:39:33.660 yeah i don't have any of your last thoughts i also you know i don't really have a comment on it i think

03:39:37.820 tate has some good points but i also think he can be a little over dramatic sometimes a little

03:39:44.380 quite a bit over dramatic sometimes thank you but again i you know there is this whole thing about

03:39:50.460 how the media is portraying him in the wrong way and i can't speak like perfectly on him because

03:39:56.380 i haven't looked into it but as a guy i mean i do think he is saying some valid masculine points

03:40:03.900 and as someone who also yes yeah and as someone who i i think i can say that i have an open i'm

03:40:11.020 open-minded i also can say that some of his points are very closed off and just like extreme this is my

03:40:18.140 first experience like seeing something by like andrew tate i've like heard so many like this like

03:40:24.220 whatever videos we were seeing today was my first like time seeing him but i've like heard like lots

03:40:27.500 of hype about it but like i'm not gonna like cast any judgments yet on like i don't know what his

03:40:32.860 thing is about because one of my like favorite thinkers jordan peterson is like similar he can be

03:40:37.260 like taken out of context or like people like to radicalize what he's saying but if you read his works

03:40:43.420 it has a good intention at heart so i don't know like it's i didn't like immediately get the

03:40:48.940 impression this person andrew tate like has like a mallet in intention against women he seems to be

03:40:56.140 like promoting the values of like family which i don't know is like a bad thing but um yeah that's

03:41:02.460 all i have to say i know there's like a lot of hype about andrew tate this is like my first experience

03:41:05.820 with it but that just reminds me of like hype i've heard if we're gonna be talking about like it reminds

03:41:09.740 me of hype i've heard about jordan peterson but like yeah yeah definitely i mean definitely there's

03:41:16.700 some similarities between kind of i mean jordan peterson's much tamer i would say compared to

03:41:23.100 andrew tate i think andrew tate hams it up a bit intentionally to be controversial because it gets him

03:41:29.740 more attention he probably went i mean he got cancelled off the internet because of it but he's

03:41:36.540 not i mean he's not stopping he's still he's still out there so um yeah but definitely

03:41:45.020 that's cool though that you like jordan peterson because a lot of uh people hate on jordan peterson

03:41:51.340 but i think overall like his message is incredibly positive he pissed off a few people because well

03:41:56.940 we don't we're not going to get into it but uh yeah tate kent 42 says tate is like dark jordan peterson

03:42:03.340 yeah yeah tate's there there's definitely some similarities i mean can i say like a quote that

03:42:10.540 i love and i tell people all the time but people and i think about all the time but like people

03:42:15.020 i feel like don't appreciate it but maybe because we've been talking about this so much like people

03:42:17.900 appreciated this but like in one of his lectures jordan peterson says something like a woman a woman's no

03:42:25.100 is what built the world and like going back to like women have so much power as like gatekeepers and 1.00

03:42:30.460 their choice like sometimes it's easy to buy into like oh i'm getting validation by like saying yes

03:42:36.460 to all the guys that are like gonna sleep with me like saying yes to that is good for my ego but like

03:42:40.780 you have so much power and like saying no and even like sometimes girls will get in like the habit of 1.00

03:42:44.620 like they like i don't know like they feel like too polite to like turn guys down or whatever but

03:42:51.020 like remembering like it's women's like how much they can inspire and like motivate men that is like

03:42:57.740 has like caused like that's like a good thing and that's like a superpower that we have that like

03:43:03.420 even like contributes to society i don't even know like i think you forget that like women say no and

03:43:09.900 they like get raped like it like i'm just saying like i mean i don't need i don't really think it's

03:43:16.060 like fair to associate like what i said with like me condoning rape i didn't say that you said that 0.94

03:43:21.340 but i'm saying like you can still say no and like you can be put in like bad positions

03:43:27.020 you know it's a little statistic it's not just me like trying to like and i know that's not what we

03:43:31.500 meant yeah yeah we're not talking about consent here we're talking more so i think we're agreeing i'm

03:43:36.060 saying it's good when a woman says no like that's a good thing i know but sometimes it's like it's even 1.00

03:43:40.540 like hard for a woman to say no because sometimes it can be interpreted like another way but that's where

03:43:44.780 you have to like stand your ground but yeah i think jasmine was just saying is like as powerful

03:43:49.900 it is it as it is for women to be able to stand our ground and to say no she's just saying that 0.62

03:43:55.100 like we don't always have that choice and men can still take that power away from us whether we like

03:44:00.140 it or not that's all she was saying but okay i i think you guys are sort of going in a different

03:44:06.300 direction with what we are when we're saying about no i think we're going in a bit of a different

03:44:13.100 direction there mine is like a positive thing like i just feel like i like live the life of

03:44:17.900 like radical feminism like leaning into victimhood and it's just i don't know like i don't know if

03:44:23.980 it served me as like it was like intended to i think the way that you just explained everything

03:44:28.940 i can get behind that and i respect that but the way that andrew tate says those things it's in such a

03:44:34.940 demeaning manner where he's literally just degrading women and like making it seem like we're these 0.99

03:44:39.580 stupid sluts that just kind of run around with our coochies out which is not i wish that happens 1.00

03:44:45.580 by the way yeah don't we all brian women just run around with their coochies out and shit okay um 1.00

03:44:52.620 did you guys want to continue on with i think it's just like the matter of how it's said because like 0.97

03:44:57.260 brian i'm sure that you share views with tate as well but like i would not be coming on this podcast

03:45:02.620 and talking with you if you were talking to me the way that andrew tate talks about women

03:45:06.380 is the way he says it mm-hmm like everyone's entitled to their own opinion and that's fine

03:45:11.340 andrew tate can have those views but if you're going to say it in such a disrespectful manner

03:45:14.700 where you're like just completely objectifying women and like placing society's entire value of 0.99

03:45:21.180 women on like their promiscuity and whatever like that's where the issue comes at hand because like 1.00

03:45:26.860 you're allowed to have those views and you're allowed to think like women should be more conservative 0.65

03:45:31.580 and like blah blah blah but it's all about the way that you say it i think and i think that

03:45:35.340 andrew tate just the way that he says it and like it is obviously or like probably for the media and

03:45:41.260 to like hype it up and be controversial and get that attention but like me as a woman hearing him

03:45:46.380 talk like that it just is like disgusting to me he's definitely controversial

03:45:56.700 did did you want to come in i'm just i'm sorry i like did we watch like different videos i just like

03:46:03.180 don't know how like that one clip was like disgusting i like i don't know about that like

03:46:07.580 yeah it was like controversial it's like saying something like pretty radical but i don't know it

03:46:12.380 like went the same way like for guys like guys would have their body like i don't know about

03:46:16.220 we didn't watch different videos you just need to watch more of andrew tate yeah like

03:46:22.060 i don't like him watch more andrew tate videos like i don't like him because i was just like on a

03:46:27.180 drive to san diego and for some reason it took us eight hours to get there and the guys who were in my car

03:46:31.660 were just playing andrew tate the whole time and i was like semi listening and just the things he

03:46:37.100 was saying was just like so like out of pocket to be saying it's just like i don't even know where he

03:46:41.820 would come up with some of these things like i can't give an example because i don't remember but

03:46:46.060 i remember that they were just so strange like yeah it's like it's like hard to support like yes like

03:46:52.620 maybe andrew t has a few great points but it's hard to support him when he has so many things that are

03:46:57.420 damaging to women like how can you support someone like just because they've done a few good things 1.00

03:47:03.020 like he literally says some of the most misogynistic things like on the internet and like that clip i

03:47:09.100 don't think there was anything necessarily like too contra like too crazy about that clip like

03:47:14.060 that's not what we're talking about but maybe like because we've all watched more andrew tate it's

03:47:17.740 hard for you to judge him being like oh like why are you guys reacting that way but like

03:47:22.220 look up andrew tate like and then you can make your own like like look up andrew tate and compare

03:47:27.020 like and like see what he says and then look at that video again like it's different you know

03:47:33.180 what what did andrew tate say that was misogynistic

03:47:40.060 probably his first word just everything yeah

03:47:45.580 i don't know if that's a good question i mean just even saying like if women had 0.99

03:47:51.260 their body counts on their forehead like life would be so much better like it's our fault like

03:47:56.380 don't you think us women would want to see men's body counts on their foreheads like it would make

03:48:00.780 it a like hell of a lot easier to know whether i want to date a guy or not but like we don't have

03:48:04.700 that same privilege why would men be able to have that privilege and why would it make it so much

03:48:08.300 better for them and you could see if it went up like if you're in a relationship with him you could

03:48:12.860 see if that went up like if he was cheating on you like i think like i would actually have been fine if

03:48:17.900 he said that men and women should have that then it's like it's the fact that he's only saying

03:48:22.700 that it's all on the women and i think women hold responsibility to these societal problems but so

03:48:27.900 do men and it's like the same way you're like oh it's all men's fault like we're saying it's all

03:48:32.060 men's fault like he's saying it's all women's fault like there needs to be a balance and like taking

03:48:36.060 responsibility on both sides for it yeah i think that's yeah well i think he is being hyperbolic

03:48:48.540 obviously there's certain things that that go wrong beyond what i think if you like look outwards

03:49:00.300 in as far as what he's saying where everything starts so if everything starts at the individual

03:49:09.820 level right and then you build to the family and then you build to the village and then you build

03:49:14.940 to the city and then you build to the state and you keep going up so i what i think he's sort of

03:49:20.700 getting at is promiscuity has led to the destruction of the nuclear family when you get rid of the nuclear 0.64

03:49:29.340 family and well let me flip it and say well then it should be on men to not ever be with women that's 1.00

03:49:36.780 promiscuous then women would have to change and not be promiscuous i don't think it works it can't 1.00

03:49:43.900 work that way why men okay so 0.97

03:49:48.140 someone has to be women are the gatekeepers for sex allegedly allegedly yeah like allegedly 1.00

03:50:01.100 okay because y'all y'all have all made the convo with eliza sorry it's both let us not cut him off

03:50:06.700 yeah he's getting mad at us no no i'm not no i'm not mad i'm not mad at all um the

03:50:11.500 i think you asked earlier right what's the longest that you've made a guy wait for sex right

03:50:22.220 women make men wait for sex it's not the other way around but men also like are willing to wait 1.00

03:50:28.060 because like you know like you said it like makes means that she has a higher value so who created that

03:50:33.980 standard really who created the standard what do you mean like if like i'm just saying like i'm

03:50:39.660 trying to use like your double standard against you because i believe that it's both parties like

03:50:43.740 both men and women need to change and you can't just say like women need to change and everything's

03:50:48.940 going to be solved or women can't say men need to change it's all going to be so no i agree i think

03:50:53.660 people need to change and i agree with that both men and women need to change but when we're

03:50:58.860 speaking about sexual access that is something that women can that women control the reason like 1.00

03:51:06.780 i make a guy wait is to show that he values me more than sex that's the reason why i make a man wait to

03:51:14.380 be proven that like he's going to value me he's going to wait he's going to invest in me he wants

03:51:18.380 to get to know me that's the reason why i wait whereas men won't make women wait for sex because

03:51:23.980 that is their main priority usually well so it comes the thing is is that it sort of

03:51:28.700 comes down to biology and evolution so men and women's historical sexual strategy 0.71

03:51:36.780 has been very different for men biologically because men we can if we if we can sleep with 0.87

03:51:45.740 that many women we can get three women pregnant a day as a woman you can only get pregnant once every 1.00

03:51:54.300 nine months or whatever um so men our sexual strategy from an evolutionary biological

03:52:02.540 standpoint is to sleep with as many women as possible impregnate all of them can i make a 1.00

03:52:09.020 comment so i'm a psychology major at ucsb and i actually like work in a lab that specializes in

03:52:15.900 human mating psychology and i've taken graduate level courses in this sure and that is incorrect

03:52:22.780 so based on like what like the general body of like research shows and evolutionary theory for this

03:52:30.220 is that a male's defaults the human male's default strategy and the mating world is a long-term

03:52:35.820 strategy granted it does allow for um promiscuity like it allows for cheating if another woman's 1.00

03:52:42.140 available but the default is not for human males at least from our understanding of like um

03:52:49.660 like mating like evolution at this point is like not that the default is sleep with as many women as 0.91

03:52:55.500 possible it's stay in like a the default strategy is a long-term relationship but it does allow for

03:53:03.740 the literature does like grant that it allows for like if the opportunity arises to procreate with

03:53:08.380 another woman okay possible but i just want to clarify it's not have sex with as many women as

03:53:12.220 possible the trade-off is that your offspring are better off if you stick around with the

03:53:16.780 same woman for as long as possible but occasionally if if the if the option is presented to you you can

03:53:21.740 have like like sex with other people but just to clarify like what literature says on that well so

03:53:27.580 okay i haven't read the literature i've read some and maybe it can what okay i haven't read that

03:53:34.700 literature what i've read sorry there's a truck going by i've taken a psych class too and that's

03:53:41.580 what it it's okay so what what i've read and perhaps we've read conflicting uh studies men's

03:53:50.060 sexual strategy is unlimited if they can get it unlimited access to unlimited sexuality women's sexual 1.00

03:53:59.820 flies yes like in certain species yes but not not from what we see for humans because you also want

03:54:06.140 because of the benefits the the trade-off benefits of staying with the same woman because your offspring

03:54:11.420 are better off just because okay so human offspring take much more like care both parental care

03:54:17.180 to do well so i'm just saying and in certain species flies yes the more it is it is like a linear

03:54:22.700 graph of like it's it's shown like the more the sexual strategy for um the males and other species

03:54:30.300 is usually as many as much sex with as many partners as possible maximizes their like you know

03:54:35.900 evolutionary benefit but it's just it's not the same for humans because like our often require a lot

03:54:40.460 of care raising a kid requires a lot of care so men have to be there okay so that's nurture though i'm

03:54:45.900 talking about nature nurture versus nature there's some species where there's life partners where

03:54:52.060 men like they like the male species stays with the women for their entire lifespan well i'm speaking 0.99

03:54:57.340 just about humans here well and you're well your facts are wrong but also so okay my maybe maybe i've

03:55:05.740 got it wrong but men's sexual strategy is if they can get it unlimited access to unlimited sexuality women's 0.99

03:55:13.900 sexual strategy is secure the best possible mate for long-term yes that's true for women's side 1.00

03:55:20.380 that's a thousand percent true that's that's definitely agreed upon but for men it isn't as many as

03:55:26.060 possible if you have like there's a point at which like his offspring will be most successful

03:55:32.060 if he sticks around and invests his resources in those offspring they will die without it like

03:55:36.860 they're much more likely to die without it so that's just one caveat but yes you're completely

03:55:40.220 right the sexual strategies of men and women and humans is different and there's evolutionary basis

03:55:45.260 for why a woman's goal should be securing and usually is securing the most desirable long-term

03:55:51.340 partner and that man is a bit more promiscuous well so i mean so i agree just want to like clarify

03:55:59.500 yeah i mean obviously if a man sticks around and provisions and provides for a woman that's going to 1.00

03:56:05.820 be better for his offspring certainly yeah i agree i agree it's better for his offspring it's better

03:56:11.980 for his evolution so evolutionarily that's how human nails evolved as their default sexual well 0.57

03:56:17.180 basically i mean what you have happening in well i mean you're basically making the argument for why

03:56:23.180 promiscuity is bad but which i don't think you disagree with but um what you have happening in

03:56:31.980 practice is women sleep women will sleep with the most attractive guy get the good dna and then 1.00

03:56:40.940 they'll turn towards the man who's the good provider and then he will pick up the slack for the alpha

03:56:49.100 i don't like that whole alpha beta male you know thing i i rarely ever bring it up in conversation but

03:56:56.700 women will get the good genes from the really hot attractive guy he he's not going to commit to her 1.00

03:57:03.500 then she's going to go look okay where's the where's the beta male for me to that will uh provide for 1.00

03:57:08.540 me and raise it's not that the con that she like has sex and has the kid and then finds the the 1.00

03:57:14.540 partner it's actually more like we can see that during a woman's fertile window like during the 0.66

03:57:18.300 time she's most fertile like in her menstrual cycle she's more likely to cheat and prioritizes like 1.00

03:57:23.660 good genes more in a certain time period so it we do always always also it's not like completely

03:57:28.860 romanticized we even see like evolutionarily there's like benefits for women to cheat as well 1.00

03:57:34.220 so they've already secured a long-term partner they might already have offspring with him if she's in a

03:57:38.140 certain part of her period where she's like most likely to like conceive children she'll be like 1.00

03:57:44.540 especially she'll be more she'll have like greater sexual desire and she'll like specifically be looking 1.00

03:57:49.180 for traits of like really good genes yep and then maintain the yeah so i mean yeah it's it's really

03:57:54.700 complex and interesting it's it's much more interesting than anything people even like realize

03:57:58.700 or would think well i mean society for thousands of years was set up towards monogamy and because that

03:58:06.300 that enabled one men who weren't let's say the alpha males to actually have access to uh

03:58:15.660 uh having a family but now that we've kind of done away with monogamy to some degree um and promiscuity is

03:58:24.620 elevated we are actually seeing a return to and this is there's that's why there's all these single

03:58:30.940 mothers and so it's actually a return to our sort of base instinctual uh patterns

03:58:45.660 which i think still favor like long term monogamy benefits both parties like if it 0.99

03:58:54.540 like it kind of is like the woman's not cheating on you so you know that the offspring that you're

03:58:59.660 raising is yours and then like it benefits the woman because she has a i would say monogamy benefits 1.00

03:59:04.940 children yeah and that's the point evolutionary so you can have your dna passed on and you can continue

03:59:11.580 like that's literally the whole point of having children like monogamy is fantastic for the

03:59:15.740 nuclear family i 100 agree

03:59:19.740 but what i'm saying is okay so if if given the option if a man could have his wife whatever have

03:59:27.340 his main chick and then also sleep with other women he would what are we i don't know what

03:59:33.820 we're talking it's late guys why don't we go yeah this might be our longest show ever so i think we

03:59:40.380 i do i'm i'm a little frazzled we've been going for a long time um should we wrap it up there guys um

03:59:47.020 okay cool cool cool last chance anyone any final thing okay cool um wait i love you mike davis

03:59:55.500 mike davis forever mike davis yeah uh mike davis i think i just also i think i don't know if you're

04:00:03.020 still in the chat i think i whitelisted you in our back end so you should be good to go um once this

04:00:10.460 truck pass i'll say good night yeah no it was a good it was a good panel you guys loved all you guys

04:00:18.540 you guys were awesome um thank you for you coming back on let's definitely get i'd like to get all you

04:00:24.140 back on it was a good panel um we went very long sorry guys but i was trying to wrap it up but they

04:00:30.620 just kept wanting to talk about body no i'm kidding um no you guys were great so uh thank you guys for

04:00:36.380 tuning in tonight we will be live again uh let's see tuesday at 7 p.m pacific but yeah thank you again

04:00:42.380 for watching you could have been doing anything else but you're here with me i appreciate that uh like

04:00:47.420 the video and leave a comment on your way out for the algorithm big thank you to the fantastic panel

04:00:52.540 you guys were awesome super great tara you're super tara tara tara did i get it right the first

04:00:59.420 time yeah you did yeah you're super based you're a fucking legend let's definitely get you back 0.98

04:01:03.500 wait what does based mean i've only heard that this means you're a fucking legend okay you're a 1.00

04:01:07.740 fucking legend um cheyenne fucking legend jazz your dad's a fucking legend sweden ella 1.00

04:01:18.860 you didn't speak much swedish but you're still a fucking legend um izzy 1.00

04:01:25.820 i'm so tired also a legend yeah it's fucking late we're wrapping up but uh yeah thank you 0.91

04:01:30.140 thank you to the panel thanks for watching we will uh see you guys next time have a good night guys

04:01:34.780 you

Whatever Podcast - February 02, 2023

Dating Talk #25

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