Dating Talk #25
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4 hours and 1 minute
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182.81015
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192
Summary
In this episode of Whatever Happened, we have two special guests on the show to talk about their experiences with the law. We also have a special guest from the American Network Against Labia Plasty (ANAP) join us to discuss labiaplasty.
Transcript
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La donna è mobile, ha il piume al vento, muta d'accento e di pensiero.
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Sempre un'amabile, legge addroviso, impianto inriso e menzognero.
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La donna è mobile, ha il piume al vento, muta d'accento e di pensiero.
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La donna è mobile, ha il piume al vento, muta d'accento e di pensiero.
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Also, please support my nonprofit organization, the American Network Against Labia Plasty,
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We empower women who may feel self-conscious or insecure about their labia.
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That, you know, some women, they get shamed if they have a large labia to the point that
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they consider undergoing a dangerous and unnecessary surgery.
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Can we get some hashtag all labia matter in the chat?
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And lastly, if you want to be on the show, Eric, if you just push it over to the Instagram,
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if you want to be on the show or help with the show, DM at whatever on Instagram.
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We need help with timestamps and stuff like that.
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So, yeah, Eric, if you can bring it back center.
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So, last thing, as you guys know, I'm a philanthropist.
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So, if you go to Santa Barbara City College or UCSB and you received any party-related fines
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like open container of alcohol, MIP, maybe you're throwing a party and got an amplified
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I'm not going to name her name, but she was arrested for something alcohol-related.
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But DM your citation to atwhatever on Instagram and you may be selected to have your fine
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Without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.
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So, please tell us your name, age, occupation, and or school major.
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Scoot the microphone just that way a bit and tilt it up.
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I'm 21 years old and I am studying communications.
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I'm a fourth year at UCSB and I study philosophy and psychology.
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I'm going to be 25 on Tuesday and I'm a promoter.
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And did you guys mention which school you guys go to over here?
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There's a lot of international students at Santa Barbara City College.
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I actually haven't met like one person that's Swedish.
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But I remember back in the day, the Swedish girls were running wild.
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Well, of course, you're not going to say it's a bad one.
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Can we get a candle vigil for Cheyenne in the chat since she's going to an inferior school?
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Do you guys look down on guys who go to Santa Barbara City College?
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So my first year, I went to UC Santa Cruz, and then I transferred to a CC back in Santa
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Monica, but, like, I wouldn't look down on them.
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I feel like they're, like, just more fun, more social.
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Like, if you get into UCSB, not that, like, you know, like, intelligence correlates to
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how fun you are, or even, like, that UCSB correlates with intelligence, but just that,
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like, you know, CC guys just tend to be, like, more, like, fun, social.
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I think they're, like, that's, like, maybe a plus.
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Not for, like, long-term, maybe, but, like, short-term, for sure.
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Well, we have one SBCC lad at the table, so there we go.
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And so everyone's Instagrams are in the description.
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So going around the table again, current relationship status, longest relationship, and are you on
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I, my longest relationship was, like, two years.
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I just got out of a relationship, so, like, recently single, and no dating apps for me.
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Like, it's just, DM me, like, you know, why am I going to go on Tinder, so.
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Well, like, we broke up in March, but then, like, I, he actually goes here.
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Um, so I recently saw him, and, like, we got back together, like, a few months ago, but
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Yeah, canceled, like, cut, like, never want to see you again, like, saw him in the class,
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was, like, I need to get out of here, like, yeah.
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It was kind of, like, mutual, I would say, but, like.
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Actually, I'm blocked, so he doesn't know about this, but.
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But, um, I just feel like I wasn't being treated right, so, like, I had to leave, and then,
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like, recently I was, like, oh, like, we should get back together.
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Like, I have, like, a following on social media.
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He told me that was, like, one of the issues of, like, why, like, we couldn't be together,
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and then, like, I drunk called him, and that's how I got blocked, so.
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So his main issue with, with you was that you have social media.
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He told me that I would, like, flaunt my DMs or be, like, like, I don't know.
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Like, some, like, people would, like, DM me and be, like, oh, my God, like, this person DMed me,
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like, whatever, and, like, he took it as, like, flaunting, but, like, I would never, like.
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The game, and just, like, other, like, people, like, I don't even really, like, no, that's just,
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Any other blue check marks that slid into your DMs?
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But none of them, like, really, like, work out, because, like, I guess I, like, say things
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I mean, yeah, there's, like, there's some athletes, but no one that's, like, super big.
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It's sounding a little bit, like, pretentious, but, like, I promise you.
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And you know what's hilarious is that I was, like, so I make music, and I was working with
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And I was, like, oh, yeah, this guy named, like, the game DMed me.
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He was, like, Jasmine, do you know who that is?
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He was, like, this is, like, one of the biggest, like, rappers ever.
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And I was, like, oh, should I, like, respond back?
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But, like, he was just, like, it was, like, a few, like, streams.
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And then I usually don't, like, expect much from them.
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Like, I don't even know, like, why they signed into my DMs.
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Like, they just, like, that's what I'm saying most of the time is, like, when these blue
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I guess maybe I say something wrong or, like, whatever.
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He's probably going to watch this at some point.
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Wait, yo, you got to screenshot this before he deletes it.
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But, like, he probably was just, like, bored and, like...
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Like, or, like, it's a very polite conversation.
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The way RiceGum DMed me was, like, a fake account.
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Or, like, a random account with, like, two followers DMed me being, like,
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Like, he actually wanted to possibly have me, like, on a Twitch or something.
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Like, I was just, like, fucking around messaging this guy back.
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Because then he, like, just didn't respond to me.
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So, he DM'd you, though, to, like, invite you on to his show or whatever.
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So, a lot of producers, like, slide in or whatever.
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And, like, usually I think they want to work with music.
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You can never tell someone's intentions, honestly.
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I don't even know, like, how to read people's intentions these days.
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I've heard that a lot from, like, women in the music industry.
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That a lot of the guys that maybe are a little further along in their career.
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Being like, oh, do you want to come to the studio right now?
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It's really similar with, like, the modeling industry type thing.
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When there's photographers that are like, oh, I want to shoot with you.
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And then you look at their account and it's, like, almost always, like, nude women or, like, lingerie and bikini shoots.
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And it's like, hmm, I don't really, like, need that.
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And it's a lot of guys using, like, their platform sometimes to kind of abuse that in a way.
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But, like, us as girls, we kind of just have to get used to it and know, like, who's legit or not.
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So, I mean, it appears you try to cover it up a little bit.
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Probably, like, five layers of different concealers.
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I was really hoping to make it through this podcast without you mentioning it.
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Dude, I would always joke about that because I actually love Drake.
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No, like, I would never, like, do anything like that.
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But, like, Drake has, like, a weak spot for me.
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No, but so he DMs you and you know he's, like, trying to get at you.
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Like, I really feel like I have to get to know someone before.
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But also, like, you know how Drake, like, I don't remember that, like, there was, like,
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a basketball player and, like, he kept taking out his mom on date.
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It was, like, this basketball player and, like, Drake, like, kept taking out his mom.
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He rented out, like, the whole Dodger Stadium for her.
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Honestly, also, like, guys that are, like, at that, like, level, I feel like they would
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Yeah, I mean, maybe he'll DM you after the show.
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You said no dating apps, no seeking arrangements.
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No, like, it's just, I just don't like doing things for people that I don't really know.
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Like, that's just a personal preference for me.
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So, current relationship, longest relationship, and are you on a dating app?
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But, I have had seeking arrangements in the past.
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Did not follow through with anything, unfortunately.
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You said, how, longest relationship was what again?
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It was, like, my end of high school going into college that year.
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How do you get this hickey, though, if you're single?
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I, like, I like to hang out with people every now and then.
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Because, why would I, like, why would I, like, get with, like, a rich guy who's, like, ugly and, like, can't pull money?
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When I could just get with, like, a handsome rich guy I'm into, like, in real life?
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Do you, so you currently have those opportunities to get with a handsome rich guy?
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You're meeting them at the frat party or where are you?
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I've, like, never, I've, like, really never associated or, like, been into frat guys.
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So, I mean, isn't, there is some degree of, like, don't you have to go to the parties or whatever?
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I have never, there's been, like, one guy, like, ever who was in a frat that I, like, hung out with.
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I'm, like, smart enough to, like, I literally trained myself to be, like, repulsed by frat guys.
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Because, I don't know, I was, like, they're bad news.
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I just, not that there's any, I just, you know.
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Do you want to take shots in any particular frat?
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It's just, like, in general, I don't really, like, mesh well with, like, guys my age anyways.
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So, it's just, like, guys that are older have their shit together.
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Like, if I was a guy and I was in a frat, I would probably, like, it's, like, why would I put myself through that obstacle of, like, all that?
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Like, I understand the part of the guy that would be, like, difficult.
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So, you said you recently got out of a situation.
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But before I met him, I was, it was, yeah, like, seeing, like, older guys probably.
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Like, older 20s, like, have their shit together.
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I mean, I've, you know, just, I don't know why people think, like, sugar daddy's, like,
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They're just someone with, they're old, but not old, old.
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Oh, yeah, so, current, sorry, current relationship status, longest relationship, and are you on
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So, I'm single, the longest, oh, see, I already forgot.
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The longest relationship was two years, or was it two and a half?
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I can't remember, and then, no dating apps, and no seeking arrangements.
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I never actually, like, I lived there for like nine years, and then I moved.
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We'll have to talk about how dating goes down in Sweden just a little bit.
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Not now, but maybe later on the show, because I know it's very different.
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I'm single, and my longest relationship was like a year and a half, and I'm not on dating
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apps, but, like, I've been on, like, Tinder before, like, for fun, but, like, I didn't
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ever really, like, meet anybody on there, but, yeah.
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She said she just, like, hangs out with them, but, like, she doesn't let them touch her.
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My longest relationship was six, seven months, and I do not have any relationship apps,
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This is your third time back on the show, right?
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So, have you gotten any girls DMing you that have seen you on the show?
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And I've talked to some of the girls that have been on the show previously.
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But I definitely, like, identify with, like, equality for women.
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But I think the term feminist has been, like, so watered down and, like, has meant so many different things.
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But I, of course, like, stand by, like, women's rights and, like...
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Like, how people have, like, flipped the term feminist, too.
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What's funny is I knew you were going to ask this question because I watched some of your things.
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And she's, like, when you walk in a room full of guys and girls, do you address them as, hey, guys?
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She's, like, then you're not a feminist because I wasn't addressing the women for who they are and the men, you know?
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Like, I'm, like, hey, guys, instead of saying, hey, guys and girls, you know?
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She's, like, do you walk in a room and say, hey, do you address the girls as, you know, who they are?
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I don't know if that's the best metric for identifying yourself as a feminist.
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Like, I have a friend that she's, like, extreme feminist.
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Like, I hate old men, blah, blah, and I'm just like...
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I wouldn't really, like, know where I stand with that.
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Like, because, like, I want equal for men and women, but I'm not, like...
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That's what a lot of men think it is because of how strong women come off, but I don't
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Like, that is the movement of feminism is for women to be seen as equal as men, not as
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But I do feel like a lot of women who, like, call themselves feminists are like, fuck all
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I think that's a bad idea for people to view feminism as, though, because, yes, there are
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very extreme women who tend to take that out on men, but I think that, like, us coming
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to the reality of feminism today is to not let those views, like, overtake how we view
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I think feminism, like, as its definition, should be equality for both genders, not women
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So I think, like, we should think of it on that scale.
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Well, we already have something for that called egalitarianism.
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But I think that, like, people are taking feminism, like, way out of its context.
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I think that, like, at least from my knowledge, like, feminism is women fighting to be more
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equal to men rather than, like, not superior, but just not less than.
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And because for so long we have been seen as less than.
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I wouldn't say I align myself with what feminism stands for, and I do think it should be what
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I think it should be, you know, men and women should be equal, but I think the way that feminism
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So, no, I would not consider myself a feminist.
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Can I just say that, like, men that call themselves feminists is, like, just low-key a turn-off
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Not because they're, like, feminist, because it's just, like...
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Like, it's also just, just, like, like, if you were...
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Also, also, okay, especially, like, in Ivy, especially, like, liberal guys are, like,
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the first to be, like, to just, like, not go down on you, too, by the way.
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I feel, like, I just remember hearing that, like, in Ivy, like, like, I don't know.
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I just, like, thought this in my head, and, like, that's just a turn-off.
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Like, you probably, Loki, just want me to, like, buy your, like, haunted kitchen.
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Because if you were going to say, like, I'm a feminist, I'd be, like...
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Is the bleached hair, like, equivalent to the blue-haired feminist type thing?
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I mean, like, me personally, I would view it differently.
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Like, if a guy said that he were anti-feminist, I guess, in that case, I would be, like, automatically
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Because, like, I think of feminism not in the way, like, he has to be feminine, but more
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And so, if a guy told me that he was a feminist or had bleached hair, it's okay, Luke.
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But, like, if a guy told me that, I would take it more in a way of, like, okay, he has
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some respect for me, not, like, immediate turnoff and he's a pussy.
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I've had some liberal guys go down on me and it was a good time.
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So, I don't know if political views really relates to sexual pleasing in the bedroom.
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Not that, like, it's correlated, but, like, if you're a guy and you're calling yourself
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I just think that means that he respects women.
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Like, I would take that and respect that rather than a guy that's, like, no, I'm no fucking
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I think that would be more of a turnoff to me personally.
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But, like, everyone is different at the end of the day.
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We're going to do two super chats here while we are.
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Like, I feel like my thoughts on feminism is, like, you better practice it like you preach
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I, I'm a feminist because I'm a woman who does whatever the fuck I want.
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If you, like, don't have the balls to, like, live out feminism.
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Not caring what a man thinks, like, about any of it.
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And I think it also is, like, a personal preference at the end of the day.
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Because, like, I personally tend to go for, like, less masculine men.
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And, like, we were kind of talking about this on the last episode.
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Like, obviously, that's not, like, my type of man that I'm going to go choose.
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But, like, I would be okay with showing some femininity.
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Just because, like, I personally am cool with that.
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So, like, a girly man isn't really going to bother me as much as, like, someone who's looking for, like, a super masculine man that's going to, like, protect them and pay all their bills and stuff.
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Luke, are you down to get an address right now?
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If someone super chats, like, 20 bucks, I'll fucking do it.
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I'm just going to take it off in, like, two seconds.
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We had to update OBS because we've been having tons of issues with OBS.
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So you said that a male feminist is, or a liberal guy, a guy who's liberal is less likely to
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I just like, it's more like, I remember hearing stories.
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Like, if you're going to call yourself a liberal guy, like, you better, is what I'm saying.
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If you call yourself a feminist, like, you better, like, so it's more, like, I don't know.
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I feel like you probably should be, like, going down on a world.
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You're probably just saying that to, like, because you think it'll, like, get you girls.
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I'm like, whatever people say their, like, political, like, view is.
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So that's the, that's the first thing you go to if a guy says he's liberal.
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Just, like, I just remember, like, the last time I talked, I, like, had a conversation about, like, the liberal man.
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I remember, like, friends telling you that, like.
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I haven't gone down on a girl since the Bush administration.
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Is it because you haven't, like, been with a woman since the Bush administration, or?
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Yeah, I was, I've sworn off women since, uh, it's been almost a day.
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Now, let me, let me qualify my statement a little bit.
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I believe, I want to make the girl come first every time.
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it's just like a sexual preference just not not a fan of it and it's not like i'm grossed out by
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vaginas right it's not that at all it's just it's just all yeah hashtag i'll leave it matter um
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i just i don't it's not something i enjoy now anyways that's it so i guess we could ask the
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panel like is that a deal breaker for you guys if you guys doesn't want to go down on you um
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low-key yeah i'm gonna say yes that's fine my last relationship you didn't really do it that much
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and like you started doing it towards the end not much of a deal breaker then if
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your last relationship you learned that was my first and like only relationship okay like honestly
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only person that i've ever really been with sure i've changed my standards a little bit and i was
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i wouldn't say it's like a complete deal breaker but it's definitely like a heartbreaker like i'm
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a little bit i'm disappointed you know so and i feel like a guy should like enjoy it like why
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would you not why would you not i can think of a couple reasons but go ahead um i would say most
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likely yes it would be a deal breaker just because like well even if he could make you come other ways
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if he didn't do that specific thing it's a deal breaker dang that's kind of tough like maybe i would
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be okay with it but i would just kind of want to like be like why not because like some girls don't
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enjoy giving head to guys either but a lot of the times we do it because that is like the main way of
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like fornication other than sex with guys and like a majority of guys will receive head whereas a majority
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of girls will not like it's more rare for women to receive head whereas like if i were in a relationship
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with a guy and if that's something that i'm giving to him i would probably like at least expect it in
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return and like if he can fulfill it in other ways maybe that's okay maybe that's fine but like i would
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probably just want to know why if he's like really not comfortable with it it's just not something he
00:42:17.280
likes like that's okay i'm not going to like force anyone to do something that they're not comfortable
00:42:20.500
with but i would kind of just want to know like why not
00:42:23.400
it's not a deal breaker to me but if he's a liberal he has to do it well i'm just i'm just
00:42:33.300
saying like you know like i said practice what you preach i don't know i just think it's ironic and
00:42:36.800
funny like okay yeah um if he knows what he's doing in other ways i ain't tripping you know sure
00:42:45.360
i wouldn't call it like a deal breaker but like disappointed i think okay i mean i wouldn't say
00:42:54.120
deal breaker but like if i'm gonna give you head like shouldn't i get it back just a little closer
00:42:59.860
like shouldn't i get it back if i give it to you like where's the like yeah well i mean i i guess my
00:43:07.460
response to that would be i i think there are some things that your partner can enjoy that maybe
00:43:15.100
you don't so i i wouldn't blame a girl necessarily like if her partner didn't want to go down on her
00:43:23.080
she could be like well i'm not gonna go down on you then but then i think that's kind of almost
00:43:27.640
coming from a vindictive place like if you enjoy giving head then then it's kind of just almost
00:43:35.460
revenge like motherfucker you ain't going down on me i'm not going down on you like there are some
00:43:41.020
things that certain part certain people just don't like doing and everyone has their own sexual
00:43:48.140
boundaries and stuff so that's exactly why i clarified some girls don't like giving head
00:43:54.400
because if a girl does like giving head maybe she has no problem with it but if a girl doesn't do it
00:43:57.900
and she's doing it just to please her partner she would probably want that in return at the very least
00:44:03.280
i mean i've known some girls too that they don't enjoy receiving head that's a possibility too some
00:44:09.760
girls don't like it so there's that can you just pull that wire uh just so it towards you yeah perfect
00:44:18.640
okay so we're gonna do super chats really quick richard joy with the canadian ten dollars question
00:44:25.940
for the girls first date idea for a girl i somewhat know trail ride on a horse what are your thoughts
00:44:31.580
richard joy thank you for the ten canadian dollars uh really quick guys if you want to give your
00:44:36.600
thoughts on this he's gonna take a girl for first date to ride horses hell no like you're gonna kill
00:44:42.960
me like that's like a red flag of like you're taking me to the woods to kill me like i've watched too
00:44:47.540
many like things i've heard too many stories also why the woods like first role as a girl first date
00:44:52.480
always needs to be in a public place where you can like you do not know these intentions like i'm i would
00:44:57.280
get worried that like some guy asked me if i wanted to meet him at the beach and i was already
00:45:01.400
like a little bit too far for me so even the beach yeah like for not for a first date like if i
00:45:07.620
really know you then like yeah i think it's cute also where are you getting the horse like you're
00:45:12.000
already there's too many questions that are like arising for me so yeah yeah um in theory that is
00:45:21.120
such a cute first date like good job for thinking of that but just know that like us as women first
00:45:27.380
dates can be scary so we might be hesitant to actually meet up with you maybe like a second
00:45:32.920
date like get to know her first in a public place like she was saying and then take her on a second
00:45:37.680
date and she's gonna be wowed but like that's a really good date idea like that sounds fun
00:45:41.140
i would do it as like i would not do that as a first date i don't know just because like i feel like
00:45:50.600
if guys come off too strong it's just like a turn off like in a way not just in a way of like
00:45:59.020
you question if they're trying so hard like is there a reason like is there something like behind that
00:46:04.120
like not in a good way so i would just say like keep it chill like don't put all your cards on the
00:46:09.780
table that's like a sweet idea but if i was her i'd be sort of like overwhelmed and like be like too
00:46:16.180
much too fast so yeah um well i'm hispanic i'm from the rancho so we like horses you feel me so
00:46:24.720
and i like jaripeos so you got a horse and you try to do all that let's go you know what i'm saying
00:46:30.460
i've i've grew up in horses and so okay she's down all right i would find like quite like cute like
00:46:38.460
sweet like oh that's thoughtful but maybe like more like a second date not first i'd say
00:46:45.040
personally i would like love to do that just because i've grown up with horses and also like
00:46:50.940
you could go on a trail ride with other people and have it like just not be you two but
00:46:55.600
i know where'd you get woods from yeah where did you get the woods from well i mean a trail is like
00:47:01.260
that's in the like a hiking trail well like into a hiking trail where there's horses and he's like
00:47:06.700
i didn't say nothing about woods we by the way we have a clarifying super chat here from richard joy
00:47:10.380
thank you for these subsequent uh canadian ten dollars about the trail ride it's generally done
00:47:15.580
with a group of like 10 other horses jesus christ um okay we didn't know that yeah i mean if it was in
00:47:23.760
a group and like i was like tim and yeah why not like that shows effort that shows like dedication
00:47:29.340
like i think that would be really sweet but okay to me like the idea of like going in a secluded
00:47:33.500
place especially with an animal is like a little bit scary for sure for sure i feel like i would be
00:47:40.700
more comfortable with an animal like i don't know by the way can we get uh can eric can you go center
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really quick um emma right ella correct do you see that portrait behind you of with the the black
00:47:56.460
gentleman yeah um can you just scoot it to your right to the right just my way yeah can you just
00:48:04.620
put it on the table really quick oh on the table yeah eric can you pull it up the uh super chat
00:48:12.540
can you scoot it all right we got mike davis in the chat with the 20 dollar soup chat curly hair miss
00:48:18.700
patrick sounds confused listen young bucks women will say whatever the media has trained them to
00:48:24.700
say but that's no reflection of what truly attracts them dominant and assertive is the way to go
00:48:31.180
cheyenne i believe this is directed towards you um mr mike davis thank you for the big 20
00:48:38.460
dollar soup chat good to see you back by the way i don't know if you caught it mr mike davis
00:48:43.260
uh eric if you put it center again did you miss the vigil from two podcasts ago dude we had candles and
00:48:50.460
shit we had the bbc where you been you met you didn't even address the vigil mike davis but hey
00:48:57.180
good to see you back man thank you for the 20 super chat um cheyenne do you want to respond to mr mike
00:49:03.420
davis i mean maybe that's what you're telling me right now but from my own experience with being with
00:49:12.620
the men that i have i don't always like a dominant and assertive man because i'm really stubborn myself and
00:49:18.780
when guys try to like tell me what to do or lead sometimes it makes me draw back so like like i said
00:49:25.020
everyone is different and personally like that kind of turns me off sometimes like i do want a guy that
00:49:30.300
can protect me but at the same time i want a guy that's a little sensitive and can like make fun of
00:49:37.340
those things like be okay with those things without being super fragile masculinity and so that's just me
00:49:45.100
i don't think being dominant and assertive like means you have like a fragile masculinity
00:49:49.660
that can be a part of like positive masculinity like in a good way i like agree with what mike says
00:49:55.660
i think it's like true that sometimes like girls may like think they like want a certain thing
00:50:02.860
i don't know but it might not really be what they what they do want like you have to like find that
00:50:08.620
for yourself yeah yeah but when i'm speaking i'm speaking like for myself and that's what i'm saying
00:50:15.580
like in my own experience i don't always want a man that's super dominant and assertive because
00:50:22.060
sometimes i tend to draw away from that just because of the girl that i am personally you don't
00:50:26.700
want a guy who's dominant and assertive not always like about in the bedroom bedroom is a little different
00:50:33.100
like okay that's a little different but i mean like out in public i don't want a man that's gonna
00:50:39.580
like just be telling me what to do or like just for example i was watching american psycho last night
00:50:46.140
and like i don't know not every relationship is american psycho obviously but like wait just why
00:50:53.740
you bring american psycho the one the one part i'm talking about is the scene where his girl is at
00:50:59.580
dinner with him and he just orders everything for her like she was zanned out didn't know what was
00:51:03.420
going on but like me personally if i was sober in that situation and the guy told me like this is
00:51:07.020
what you're gonna order or also white chicks same thing happened no i'm gonna choose what i want to
00:51:13.100
eat so like those are just random movie examples obviously not real life but i'm just saying like
00:51:18.940
if a guy were to try to boss me around what i know okay listen okay hear me out patrick bateman
00:51:27.500
is like a psychopathic murderer who kills but is he not dominant and assertive but you're you're
00:51:35.260
you're looking to america i know i know i'm saying that's a bad example but white chicks also
00:51:40.300
whatever his name the the whistle dude yeah he like orders he's like ordering do you like huey lewis in the
00:51:46.460
news their early work was a little too new wave for my taste but when sports came out in 83 they really
00:51:54.700
came into their own both creatively and artistically you just i'm terrified why did you know that all
00:52:02.700
that's why i'm scared why did you know that word for american psycho is a good film that's concerning
00:52:06.940
see a lot of this podcast is starting to make sense he just quoted american psycho like with no
00:52:12.620
book in front of him or anything but anyways what i'm saying that shit committed to memory see what i'm
00:52:18.700
saying is though like okay maybe movies are a bad example i was i just watched that movie yesterday so
00:52:23.340
it was on my mind but like i feel like as a feminist you should be the first to like not use one caricature
00:52:28.780
of the worst type of man as like no i'm not at all that's why i said like those are just two movie
00:52:34.540
examples obviously not realistic but i'm just saying if i were in a scenario where a guy's like telling me
00:52:40.140
what i need to eat for dinner and he's like ordering my food for me that is like an example just one
00:52:46.460
example but isn't that very like extreme example yes have you ever had that in person though i mean
00:52:52.460
i don't know but if i like i would not stand for it but even a guy like telling me like oh like that
00:52:58.620
outfit is not good enough or like you don't look good enough like that kind of thing where a guy is
00:53:02.860
trying to tell me what to do if any guy is trying to tell me what to do i'm automatically going to take
00:53:07.660
a step back and like maybe not every woman will do that maybe some women like that and they want that
00:53:12.540
control and power in their life but me personally i do not and so responding to mike davis's comments
00:53:19.580
maybe you think it's like the reflection of media but i'm just talking from my own personal experience
00:53:23.580
i don't always want a man that is super dominant and assertive sometimes i want a man that can flex
00:53:28.380
a little and like lean my way you know yeah i'm off painting the nails and the toes though no i'm off that
00:53:35.980
that that type of feminine guy i can't do that he can't have his nails painted or toes painted and
00:53:42.700
i'm off that by the way verx thank you for the uh gifted sub man much appreciated um so i mean how
00:53:49.500
do you reconcile wanting a guy who's dominant in the bedroom but you don't want a guy who's dominant
00:53:55.420
outside of the bedroom i guess it's just a line of controlling because like in the bedroom
00:54:01.420
sure it's okay if you like take lead way i don't want to be doing all the work whatever i thought
00:54:07.580
you were a feminist i am a feminist what does that have to do with feminism though
00:54:13.100
like we can't be equal in the bedroom too no but you said you just said you don't like to take lead
00:54:19.100
in the bedroom right or did i miss hear you i said not always i don't always like 10 of the time you
00:54:24.860
like no don't play me like that brian okay what i'm saying is like
00:54:32.140
it's okay like can we bring up mike davis's comment again just to get a little refresher
00:54:37.260
i'm also blind so i couldn't even really see all of it in the first place oops i got
00:54:44.380
it's the war between eric and brian god uh so i mean also why do you call me miss patrick
00:54:50.460
i yeah what is miss patrick who's mike davis can you you don't have to send a super chat but like
00:54:57.020
what who's that um women will say whatever the media has trained them to say but i mean i think
00:55:03.820
right now i'm kind of at a minority here because it seems like a lot of the girls here are kind of
00:55:09.660
disagreeing with me so if it really were the media portraying that i would think that there would be
00:55:14.700
more of these girls on my side saying like oh yes she's right which is okay if they're not fully
00:55:19.740
agreeing with me i think it's not media portraying the way that i think i think it's a personal
00:55:23.740
preference for myself that like i mentioned earlier i am okay with a little bit of a less masculine man
00:55:32.940
and that's not for everybody but to answer your question like i don't think it's media i think
00:55:37.340
it's my own personal preference would you like would you be down to peg a guy
00:55:50.940
can i ask a question to the group yeah sure that just like i was thinking about as you're talking
00:55:57.900
about this do you guys think that like guys are less manly than they like used to be
00:56:03.900
oh yeah like less like like in the good ways like the good kind of manly like isn't it is like a lot
00:56:11.340
less than it used to be and like do you think our culture is like encouraging them to be like even
00:56:15.900
more like less like masculine in a good way does anyone have any thoughts yeah we'll let the girls go
00:56:21.100
first do you start off um honestly like i have no idea because i feel like nowadays men just like
00:56:32.940
everybody can do what they want nowadays like there's no really like strict line at about how
00:56:38.060
like a man has to act and be manly like i'm open to like however if a guy wants to act like the way he
00:56:45.180
does like cool do that like i don't i wouldn't want to like tell him to act manly or like i don't know
00:56:53.020
like half half i guess like some men are so like like manly what sense you mean though like i just
00:57:01.660
mean like like harry styles no like i don't know guys used to be like like in our like evolutionary path
00:57:09.340
past i mean like guys used to be like i don't know just responsible and like providers and like
00:57:17.020
caretakers and like lumbering wood and like now i feel like guys just like sit in the room and play
00:57:21.900
video games and that is like what i'm talking about oh yeah for sure there's generations watered down
00:57:27.900
for sure yeah way watered down too yeah well it's like watered down but you don't want like the
00:57:34.780
woman in the kitchen and the man yeah that's what i was just gonna say like if we're gonna talk about
00:57:39.020
that we could also say that it's the same for women where women don't have to like reach that
00:57:44.140
womanly standard quite as much anymore like we're not just cooking and cleaning like we used to and
00:57:49.580
popping out kids for them i think it's like both genders have kind of realized that we don't have
00:57:55.100
to stick to these same standards that we always used to and we're kind of drifting away from that
00:57:59.980
which i personally really enjoy i love to see manly woman and womanly men and i know that everyone in
00:58:06.860
the comments is gonna hate me for that but i'm sorry that's just what i think like i think that
00:58:12.620
in the past we did have those strict norms and stuff and a lot of people don't like it but like
00:58:17.660
that's just the way things are changing and i think in the future it's gonna be even more so like we're
00:58:22.860
not just gonna ban that by being like super misogynistic or like whatever whatever you know
00:58:29.420
which ninja turtle are you by the way are you donatello um why do you ask that i don't know i'm
00:58:34.460
just i okay i am technically none of them right now could be any of them um okay do you want that do
00:58:42.940
you want to answer her oh i mean i personally really like traditional like yeah i feel like weird saying
00:58:51.660
that that's the only reason like back to the topic of talking about like whether you're a feminist i feel
00:58:55.260
like if i were to what i would want feminism to be with that you would like to you would be able to
00:59:01.740
be free to make your own choice like cheyenne wants like a more feminine guy like i personally like a
00:59:08.460
really masculine guy like that's just me but i think you're you should be allowed to have your
00:59:12.940
preferences like i do like a traditional relationship i do want someone that's dominant and that's gonna take
00:59:19.020
charge but there needs to be balance in that to not to the point where it's like the 50s where it's like
00:59:22.780
i'm getting like beat you know like that's what was happening like we don't want that to happen but
00:59:28.620
you know there still needs to be a balance but like i i like i do like a traditional man
00:59:35.660
that's just me i don't think you would have been getting beat in the 50s oh i think you need to like
00:59:41.420
do your like that yeah you're pretty common like it was a pretty like i think that's a myth i don't
00:59:46.460
think i don't think life beating has ever been socially acceptable i i actually really do think it
00:59:52.460
was in the 1950s like i'm being i took i took a feminist studies class like well i mean there's
00:59:57.900
no surprise there's no surprise there i mean i just took one class just like because it was actually
01:00:03.740
a ge to fulfill so and i decided to take that class but like no like women were actually very oppressed
01:00:09.020
like they do you think men are more respectful of women in 2022 versus in 1950 oh they have to be or
01:00:16.060
else they're going to get canceled because like if a man says something bad about a woman or
01:00:20.620
disrespectful he will get canceled will a woman get canceled if she says something disrespectful
01:00:25.980
about a man i think it depends on the severity of it but i think there's like a probably a little
01:00:30.860
bit more yeah no probably not like i saw that in like the last like episode i watched and you guys
01:00:37.180
were like sort of talking about that and like the statement like girls say all the time like men are trash
01:00:42.940
like that said all the time i've never ever like other than like in like you know like
01:00:47.660
like playful debate like while you're like supposed to be debating it does anyone ever bring up like
01:00:53.820
that's like disrespectful or whatever even when like girls make jokes like entirely objectifying men
01:00:59.980
like it's just like a funny joke no i mean yeah but yeah just as like a you know devil's advocate here
01:01:07.820
no good point so um so your initial by the way luke do you want to chime in before i give my piece on
01:01:13.260
this okay so your question was do you do you think that men are less masculine yeah today yeah or yes
01:01:24.700
i would agree i would agree with that um i would also say that women are less feminine yeah so both of
01:01:32.300
the genders are not adhering to their traditional gender roles so which could be like both a good and
01:01:39.980
bad thing you know like for me like i can't deny that there's like certain elements of like cultural
01:01:46.780
progress of like what it means to be a girl that means that i can like be more like myself or have
01:01:51.580
like more freedom so that being like stigmatized for it that i wouldn't have had decades what more
01:01:56.140
freedom what do you mean just like sexual freedoms i guess i mean okay so yeah able to like get a
01:02:02.540
divorce just like more like not even just like are you talking about promiscuity sleeping around
01:02:08.060
because you said sexual freedom yeah okay i mean it's still like looked down upon but nowhere near
01:02:13.420
it would have ever ever been like in the past which like isn't necessarily like totally like which
01:02:21.260
is like in some ways helpful i feel like okay yeah but do you so the thing is like here's what i would
01:02:30.780
say is that women want most women probably want men to adhere to their traditional gender roles
01:02:39.420
providing and protecting but women don't want to adhere to their traditional gender roles yeah sure
01:02:45.980
i mean well i think like i think like the problem is that like it really is just like subjective like
01:02:50.860
as someone like when i grew up like i remember growing up being like i was a radical feminist like
01:02:55.500
growing up and being like i don't want to get married i'm gonna have kids with like
01:03:01.820
like someone from every continent like i don't know all this shit like i was like just like
01:03:06.860
super yeah like i don't know all about that i was like i'm gonna have like my own job like whatever
01:03:13.820
like i like all that sort of stuff like that was my tank and then like or at first i was like i'm
01:03:18.860
never gonna have like kids or whatever i don't know and then i just like grew out of it and then i
01:03:22.460
realized i realized how much i wanted to identify with like traditional feminine roles like no like
01:03:28.380
what's more i don't want to have i don't want the career to be the center of my life i want like my
01:03:32.060
kids to and like things like that so as i like fell into like what i wanted from like more of the
01:03:38.460
feminine roles that's when i started like specifically wanting a more like masculine role and like my
01:03:44.540
partner so it's definitely you can't ask for something and not be being able to like provide the
01:03:49.580
compatible like counterpart to it so i mean in your response yeah like i'm asking for like a more
01:03:56.620
masculine man like with the like desire to be like more on the like providing for those like feminine
01:04:03.180
roles as well okay so you want a traditional guy yeah okay and so what what does that traditional guy
01:04:10.780
look like to you do you want to be you want to have kids yeah you want to be do you want to be
01:04:17.820
working or do you want the guy to provide totally um they don't have to like provide totally but i
01:04:25.020
do think like it's helpful to your family to have like like the more the more i like get am able to
01:04:31.500
like fully give into my kids like the more you know like that's like in their like best interest
01:04:36.780
but not that i should just like stay at home and like do nothing all day like okay i'll like pursue
01:04:41.020
my own passions in the same way that i like would want my partner to pursue their own like personal
01:04:44.060
passions as well but yeah it's okay you want a traditional man do you consider yourself a
01:04:48.540
traditional woman i do now yes you do now yes but i grew up when i was growing up i was like
01:05:02.540
sexual purity component of being a traditional woman no i like aligned with that as well
01:05:08.140
you do yeah but just earlier you said people change yeah people change fair enough fair enough
01:05:16.780
that's her past and her past is her business fair enough okay uh we're gonna move on so i wanted to
01:05:22.060
do this a bit earlier on in the show but before i get into we're gonna do a couple video reactions
01:05:26.940
and then i got some other questions is there anything dating related that you want to get off your chest
01:05:32.620
so i'm gonna give you guys a couple prompts so maybe maybe you recently had a bad date experience
01:05:37.260
men are pissing you off in some way there's a trend in dating that annoys you
01:05:43.100
frustration etc oh me yeah oh i miss i i don't know see i'm like recently single right and i'm like
01:05:53.420
very new to the dating world like i was with this person for two years and like that's really like
01:05:58.300
the only person that i've ever been with like kind of in all sense so i don't really know like what guys
01:06:04.620
are like dating but i guess i would say that i wish they would like i wish they would ask like me on a
01:06:10.540
date you want a guy to ask you out on the day yeah like that's all i want like i don't want it just to
01:06:15.980
be like how fast can i like get i feel like it's all about like sex which is kind of sad which i mean
01:06:21.980
people have different things that they want but i feel like it's like you should get to know someone
01:06:26.940
first and like i think a date is really sweet so okay so you'd like you'd like a guy instead of just
01:06:33.020
saying come over yeah like let's hook up what are you doing at midnight yeah like call make a reservation
01:06:41.100
pick me up like that okay and then should he pay for the date too okay so i used to be like in my
01:06:49.180
past relationship i would split the bill i would actually pay for the bill a lot of the times i would
01:06:53.020
buy dinner a lot and like i think when you're in a relationship it should be more equal but like
01:06:58.140
when a guy's taking you on a date i think it for me personally it shows that he's willing to like
01:07:01.740
invest in me like damn i'm not worth a 20 meal like that's kind of like a little bit heartbreaking and
01:07:07.500
like i said i like more traditional roles so i and i'm more of like a traditional woman myself like
01:07:13.260
you said you have to like upkeep that i can you know so like i would i think it just shows that
01:07:18.300
they're willing to invest in you and that's that's just if you can't spend 20 on me then like how do
01:07:22.860
you how are you going to be a good boyfriend like you're okay sure sure but no that's that's totally
01:07:29.100
fair i think definitely uh the sort of dating meta as it is now it's very it's not let's do the
01:07:37.740
traditional date but i think a lot of that is due to a lot of men have been burned when they've tried
01:07:45.100
to do the right thing and say hey let me take you out on the date and then they get okay i'll tell
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you guys my experience from from me trying to do the right thing right so 50 of the time the girl will
01:08:01.980
flake one to two hours before the date even if i've set it up days in advance i say we'll meet here this
01:08:09.260
time 50 of the time they flake and that's like that's not the girl for you then that's then she's
01:08:15.180
trash or like then that's like that's but look down on her but if if it's something that a lot of men
01:08:22.380
are encountering then they're going to start adjusting how they're approaching dating if it's
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so frequent that they get flaked on and by the way a lot of the time it's some bullshit fucking excuse
01:08:33.340
and then you check their instagram later that night they're at the fucking boat party so like we know
01:08:38.460
the thing is is like a lot of women say oh guys don't want to commit why are guys so commitment
01:08:45.340
phobic when our experience with dating women a lot of y'all can't even commit to a first date well i'm
01:08:51.580
gonna like break your heart a little bit but like she's probably not that into you like if she feels
01:08:55.660
like that then she just doesn't yeah well i'm sorry no so a a plan came along another plan came along
01:09:03.500
that to her was probably more exciting than going on a date with me then she doesn't like you and
01:09:08.780
she doesn't want a relationship that's like point blank period well i mean you probably shouldn't
01:09:15.660
and you don't like you shouldn't let it get that far well also like you shouldn't agree to go on a
01:09:20.300
date only to cancel even from like a friend perspective if you agree to meet someone somewhere
01:09:26.060
and you cancel an hour beforehand maybe i'm old-fashioned that's fucking rude i think it's
01:09:30.860
rude too but it's super rude like you so we were kind of generalizing men right you're totally
01:09:36.380
generalizing women right now and i'm not saying all women no i'm not saying all women i i said of my
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experiences probably 50 percent of the time women will flake within a few hours of the date yeah and
01:09:48.460
it's like some bogus fucking excuse either they get cold feet or a hotter guy came along because women
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have a lot of fucking options it's not the hotter guy i can tell you as a flaky woman myself which i'm
01:09:58.620
not proud to say i am not proud to say that because there are genuinely like really good guys out there
01:10:03.420
and i just know that like this date will be great if i just go on it but it's genuinely like this okay
01:10:09.740
i can't speak for other women but me whenever i flake on a guy it's me getting cold feet and just being
01:10:15.500
too nervous to follow through with it because like we're just as nervous as you guys it's just like
01:10:19.900
somehow guys have the willpower to push through especially because if you made the plans that is
01:10:24.380
really fucked up i would say like if i'm gonna flake on a guy i'm gonna do it like at least a
01:10:27.100
day in advance not an hour before because that's just really fucked up it is especially like if a
01:10:31.260
girl gives me a bit more advance notice like the day before at least then i can like make new plans
01:10:35.980
i can finagle some other yeah but you flake on me an hour before i'm not ruined yeah it's a wash no
01:10:42.780
other girl like i'm not gonna get another girl so yeah that's fair but like i don't even think it's
01:10:46.780
like a personal thing a lot of the times like i could be wrong maybe other flaky girls have
01:10:51.420
different things to say but as a flaky girl i would say like it's just us being too like nervous
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to follow through with it and i don't even know what it is because like from the few dates that i
01:11:00.940
have gone on i've never had like a terrible horrible traumatizing experience they usually go just fine
01:11:07.260
it's just the idea of actually committing to that first date is what's scary and then like
01:11:11.660
sometimes i'll like really like the first date and then they get another date and it's like wow
01:11:14.780
i had nothing to be afraid of but like it's really just getting them to push past that initial
01:11:19.660
like not wanting to meet you and i think a lot of it for girls like if it's a dating app especially
01:11:24.060
or they haven't met you in person and they don't know what you're like it's just the like idea of
01:11:28.540
not knowing that person whatsoever whereas if like someone that i had met before even if it was just like
01:11:34.060
randomly if they asked me on a date just because i already know them and like what their
01:11:39.740
like persona is kind of like i'm a lot more likely to say yes to that than a complete stranger so i think
01:11:48.540
shit's still annoying yeah that's still fucking annoying but uh yeah i think defending it i'm
01:11:53.900
just saying like it's not even you it's just flaky girls being flaky girls which sucks i won't i
01:11:59.100
won't say it's okay like we're not okay for that like i can i've i've maybe flaked on a girl once
01:12:06.780
twice and like had legitimate excuses but it seems like and i've i've heard had a lot of guys tell me
01:12:16.220
this like they have pretty similar experiences where it's just some bullshit oh i'm tired okay
01:12:24.060
okay you're fucking so am i yeah i'm probably more tired than you but i still made okay
01:12:31.180
calm down so okay he's going off over there he has something off his chest well okay the other thing
01:12:36.220
the other thing with the flakiness is that like beyond just romantic shit getting girls on this
01:12:43.020
podcast let me tell you guys for the past dozen shows i've had at least every show two to four girls
01:12:50.700
will flake with like a few hours before the show and then today we had two today we had two no call
01:12:57.900
no shows so they didn't even say they weren't going to come they were scheduled to come confirmed just
01:13:03.820
no showed didn't even let me know so i mean it it kind of does start grating at you a little bit
01:13:11.660
because it's it's obviously frustrating especially trying to schedule something like this so anyways um
01:13:17.180
so okay your thing is it's annoying guys are not being traditional and then do you want to come in
01:13:23.820
on this on the uh your uh something you want to get off your chest dating related
01:13:31.820
i could come back to you if you want yeah anything going on okay
01:13:40.540
anything bad date anything dating related you want to get off your chest
01:13:51.580
if you're a sneaky link stay a sneaky link don't try to get out of the sneaky link area
01:13:56.940
that's my thing like you know like if you're a sneaky link that's what you're there for so
01:14:02.220
can you hear me yeah i hate how like if you're a sneaky link you try to like
01:14:06.540
move out of there and try to like no so you've had experiences where guys
01:14:12.620
were your sneaky link and they wanted something more serious yeah and like was it you that wanted
01:14:17.820
something no they did they did and i'm like okay with what i do for like from promoting like it's
01:14:24.140
hard for me to be in a relationship because i literally at the clubs downtown i basically lived
01:14:29.980
there thursday through sunday and so like it's just impossible for me to date so like i have
01:14:36.700
a sneaky link for a motherfucking reason you know and you should stay like that don't try to get out
01:14:41.580
of the sneaky link phase did you tell him that he was just a sneaky link or did you kind of like
01:14:47.340
because i think that's a huge issue that guys and girls have is like they'll have a sneaky link and
01:14:52.140
they won't they won't they'll they'll put forward these these feelings because you're like i want to
01:14:56.780
keep it this way i want to keep hooking up with them right that leading them on and then it it
01:15:01.660
turns to either the girl being like hey like can we go out or something and the guy's like no what
01:15:06.380
the fuck i would you're just a hook up to me or vice versa like how you're saying where it's just
01:15:12.860
you know yeah i feel like you have to be pretty clear on what's going on oh no he he knows what he
01:15:19.340
is i don't have to go i mean i didn't like write it in paper and have him sign it but he knows what
01:15:25.100
he is you know and i get what you mean because like i've even been in the position where like
01:15:29.660
i started growing feelings for my singing so i knew what because girls you know like they start
01:15:34.700
growing feelings because you have a attachment once you have sex with them there's so much like
01:15:40.220
you know and so i felt like you just need to be like hey you're my secret link you know just for
01:15:47.180
people in the chat who might not know what that is can you get can you just explain what the sneaky link
01:15:51.340
is well a sneaky link is someone that you fuck when you want to fuck you know and there's no
01:15:59.660
strings attached and um that's it and that's all how many sneaky links do you have at the moment
01:16:06.940
no you're not gonna do that danger all right nah i don't give a fuck um
01:16:12.700
do it well i have one that a current one that kind of beat all of them loki like physically no like
01:16:24.780
no like is in is runner up right now so it kind of like he knocked out kind of like the other ones
01:16:30.860
so like how many were there before he knocked out the other ones i mean there's like three
01:16:37.980
three three ish three sneaky links ish yeah so four five we'll say three
01:16:54.140
wow um how many do you guys want to answer how many sneaky links you guys currently have
01:16:59.660
um i mean i guess i just have like one like oh he's just like always there i guess he like is my
01:17:08.780
neighbor so oh i can just walk over to his room oh that's the best yeah um one as well but yeah
01:17:20.540
how about you i wouldn't like say i have any sneaky links because like
01:17:25.100
sneaky links are just like casual hookups so and you don't do casual hookups right
01:17:29.660
currently one no no i don't do casual hookups luke i have one damn
01:17:39.100
rock and roll um okay so anything dating related you want to get off your chest
01:17:44.140
um not really more like she said about like dates and stuff like that but other than that not really
01:17:51.340
so you you want guys to take you out on dates yeah yeah yeah but you have a sneaky link
01:18:00.060
yeah but they should that preclude you from no no that's like she said like sneaky links days like
01:18:07.020
that you know yeah okay and then when we're ready to hang up the gloves and date and we're ready to
01:18:11.980
hang up the gloves and date anything you want to get off your chest dating related um it's not really
01:18:19.260
like about dating but i just feel like here in isla vista as like a student nobody wants to date like
01:18:24.940
here i just feel like it's all like hookup culture and like it would be hard to find a relationship
01:18:29.420
here i think i like don't feel the same i i feel like you it's more like hookups
01:18:38.380
why do you disagree i just like i have just had like a few experience i've had like
01:18:45.740
i don't know quite a few experiences where like guys like we'll just like take it really fast and after
01:18:50.700
like just like go fast really quickly and after like two like i just had to like end something like
01:18:58.620
earlier this past week because it was honestly just like going too fast and like
01:19:02.940
was yeah i don't know i've had to like cut things off because it was like
01:19:07.340
i don't know people but like i just got a relationship so i'm not looking for anything so
01:19:12.220
yeah but also i think like if you want dates it's really about like the boundaries you set with guys to
01:19:17.980
be honest like i mean correct me if like i'm wrong but i think like guys make like an assessment of the
01:19:24.700
person they're like maybe pursuing like pretty early on i feel like guys will kind of get away
01:19:29.740
with whatever you let them get away with so if you like have your standards when you first meet as
01:19:33.820
like we'll like just meet up at a party or like you can just come over later that's they're never gonna
01:19:40.780
you can't come back from that but if you're like boundary when you meet a guy is like
01:19:44.220
kind of distance you're kind of hard to get a hold of but if you like he's like putting an effort
01:19:48.700
to see you and you like agree to it when it's something you like are willing to like go for
01:19:54.220
then like that's a date i mean it's that simple it's more just like you need to set boundaries
01:19:58.220
of like how you want to be like the type of like you know treatment when you want to expect but that's
01:20:03.340
like my assessment of like how guys look at it to be honest word word so i mean i don't know if i
01:20:15.420
want to respond to that uh i mean the other thing i would say is that if you're as a woman you can sleep
01:20:22.940
with men that are more physically attractive than you are so just be wary if you're seeing a guy
01:20:33.180
who's outside of your league and if you don't have this is why i think it's important women have a
01:20:38.620
fair self-assessment of their own physical attractiveness because they might not know
01:20:42.700
this guy's out of my league if the guy you're seeing is out of your league he's not going to
01:20:45.820
commit to you he'll sleep with you he'll keep you around because i think what women
01:20:50.540
where women kind of get into trouble is we'll put women into two different categories we have the hookup
01:20:56.620
only category and relationship wife marriage category so whereas women you kind of have
01:21:05.100
like for you to sleep with a guy you're probably going to see him as potential relationship
01:21:12.060
potential i mean apparently not with the sneaky link stuff but it sounds like that's more so because
01:21:17.180
you're very busy but but i think for most women like for you to sleep with a guy you're you have to
01:21:23.340
see some potential there but guys we'll just sleep with you we'll sleep with you and keep you around
01:21:29.260
but we will net we will not commit to you so yeah i would say that i am no better than a man
01:21:37.820
you also can separate the two you separate the two okay yeah yeah fair enough fair enough okay so we're
01:21:47.420
gonna do get some you know what we have to react to video but we do got some super chats coming in
01:21:52.380
so we will react to the soup chats here shortly uh so let me see what we have here okay hold on guys
01:22:02.940
we so we were recently featured on steven crowder's louder with crowder podcast um i guess he reacted to
01:22:12.220
one of our videos i re-chopped it because someone ripped the one of my videos and then they added
01:22:19.340
this dog shit music and then removed the watermark added this dog shit watermark so i kind of re-edited
01:22:25.260
the video a little bit but eric if you can go ahead and pull up the video and it's the crowder one
01:22:35.340
all right so let's watch this uh first really quickly there is a group of women on a podcast
01:22:39.020
yesterday this is making the rounds uh and i guess the host i'm not familiar with it but the host
01:22:43.660
kind of you know called them the task and they didn't know what to do with it they're proclaiming
01:22:48.140
what a wonderful thing it is uh for women in their 20s to not be in relationships and they use these
01:22:53.100
broad terms like explore themselves anyway just see how this goes down i know that they're talking
01:22:57.740
to a bunch of guys so why would i close myself off wait yo just that one guy can you can you just
01:23:03.740
put it back a bit eric like why would i take someone seriously put it to 70. put it back
01:23:07.740
on me seriously at all especially because we're all in the back put it back no no no no no yeah yeah
01:23:15.980
no no that's good you can play sorry a truck drove by is it and put the volume at 70.
01:23:24.300
no no no no no no yeah yeah but put the volume to 70. okay yeah play it
01:23:29.740
what a wonderful thing it is uh for women in their 20s to not be in relationships and they use these
01:23:35.820
broad terms like explore themselves anyway just see how this goes down i know that they're talking to
01:23:40.620
a bunch of guys so why would i close myself off to just that one guy right i don't know do you guys
01:23:47.020
agree yeah like why would i take someone seriously when clearly yeah not taking me seriously at all
01:23:52.700
especially because we're all like in our early 20s like this is the time to like explore and find
01:23:58.300
yourself too exactly when you say explore and find yourself does that mean
01:24:06.060
just like get run through by a bunch of dudes just no i just want to translate
01:24:10.060
where did you get that i'm just like i'm just translating literally finding who you are like
01:24:16.620
the correct answer is yes that's what they meant for girls yes here's the thing you know we're in our
01:24:22.300
20s yeah you know you know the world war ii was won by women in their 20s like that was a big part
01:24:27.420
of you know the war effort like back in the day women in their 20s were working they had children
01:24:32.220
they had established families they had a home you don't have to in your 20s have a bunch of
01:24:37.420
meaningless relationships in one night stands it is true it is there is a double standard just to be
01:24:41.900
clear there is a double and it's not that we're setting it biology is setting the standard men don't
01:24:47.020
have that kind of a window men can have kids well into their gosh abraham i mean you go like it probably
01:24:52.140
into your 90s i don't know but i'm sure it can be done i mean you need assistance but uh you do have
01:24:57.900
a certain win and if you're saying oh i'm going to waste my 20s and women often get into their 30s
01:25:02.620
and they go oh they end up settling say i'm not going to settle for anything less than perfect when
01:25:06.540
you're in your 20s and then you end up settling for a trash bag in your 30s because now you're up
01:25:11.500
against the clock and i'm not saying just to be clear people use this term slut shaming all the
01:25:15.660
time can you pause it it's not i'm not and just put it center center okay so your guys's uh
01:25:23.660
reaction to that clip and there's a few talking points he touched on but do you have an initial
01:25:29.340
reaction to anything he said i mean i think women are free to do like like it's all preference like
01:25:36.380
for me i do not partake in hookup culture i don't do i don't really do that like but that's
01:25:42.060
a personal preference why am i to judge anyone else who does or who doesn't it's not my place
01:25:49.100
at all and the fact that men can do it without being shamed is like a little bit it's a flex like
01:25:54.060
it's to some people think it's a flex when a guy has a high body count but when a girl does it's like
01:25:59.020
the opposite you know which i think is a little bit unfair would you is it fair to say life is unfair
01:26:05.580
i mean is there is there a reason why it's unfair i think like for some reason like women are looked
01:26:13.980
down upon but it's like they have that freedom the same way men do and i think like the whole point
01:26:19.660
of being like a feminist or like having like for everyone to be equal is like to have that choice and
01:26:27.420
so you think that the double standard is not justified that men are viewed as studs and women
01:26:36.300
are viewed as sluts yeah i don't think that's justified and that's also like it's like like i
01:26:43.500
said like i as i was saying the podcast i want a traditional man i don't do hookups but like i don't
01:26:48.380
judge any of my friends i don't judge any people that i know like it's it's not my place to judge anyone at all
01:26:57.900
anybody i'll respond to that but i want to let everyone come in i mean it kind of sounds like
01:27:05.100
there's an issue with women not an issue necessarily but maybe just like some criticism
01:27:11.660
with women not wanting to spend their early 20s doing their own thing and like when you said like
01:27:17.980
getting ran through why can't that be us in our college years working on our career why does it have
01:27:23.420
to be getting ran through because that's exploring ourselves i know what you mean though like
01:27:27.340
if you're not in a relationship what else are you doing but like i would not want to be in a
01:27:32.060
relationship settling down seriously right now or anytime soon and i'm 21 in my early 20s realistically
01:27:39.340
i don't see myself at that point for at least a few years unless like who knows maybe i meet somebody
01:27:44.540
super cool and like we get married tomorrow never know doubt it but i don't see that realistically for
01:27:50.940
myself for a while and i don't really like think about my biology that's going on or the fact that
01:27:57.340
i'm not going to be able to reproduce kids as easily later on down the path like i don't see why that
01:28:02.380
should be a criticism for young women when like we should be able to take things at our own pace just
01:28:07.020
because men might be more eager or more ready to settle down and they don't want a woman that is still
01:28:13.500
out there single i don't see why that's like our problem i guess
01:28:22.220
one problem like the main one of the main reasons i like sort of like distance myself from the feminist
01:28:28.220
movement like sort of relates to this and it's sort of like the myth that like it's a it's good for a
01:28:34.300
woman to be engaged in hookup culture that it's like good for a woman to be engaged in hookup culture
01:28:39.420
because i like don't think that's true i think it's like pretty damaging for women but it's like
01:28:44.060
somehow advertised as like this is good for you and i cannot see like how there would be like any
01:28:52.140
like that it's like necessarily good for women and then also just like the point like about like
01:28:57.100
honestly like i'm if if i my assessment of those girls saying like they want their time to like
01:29:01.980
explore themselves in their 20s it would be like to sleep around but like the irony that i just feel
01:29:07.580
like isn't really like told women is like how you really find yourself is by like spending time
01:29:13.100
like alone like not like i the period where i like found myself was like in high school when i was like
01:29:19.180
never like talking to guys ever like that that was like yeah so i yeah those are just like two myths
01:29:25.740
of like modern feminism that like relate to this that i feel like are like bad for what what was the
01:29:30.940
what was the first one that you said it was uh that's that like hookup culture is good for women
01:29:35.980
so why why do you think it's bad how can like how can like sleeping with a guy who has like no
01:29:48.140
like incentive to like pleasure you serve you i just like don't understand that like
01:29:56.300
if that makes sense and i think it's advertised it's like it's empowering to sleep around
01:30:01.180
and i don't think it is i think it's just like to me in my head that kind of like serves men like a lot
01:30:07.500
more than it like might serve serve women i mean there's the positive side of it which is like don't
01:30:11.580
slut shame girls who are sexual and want to like express themselves sexually but the bad side is like i feel
01:30:19.260
like and saying that like you're like but i equally have like friend girlfriends in college who are like
01:30:25.740
shamed for being a virgin which that yeah if that makes sense like shamed for like not sleeping with
01:30:31.740
guys i have friends like that i have a best you have women that are shamed for being virgins yes
01:30:35.980
probably very rare but i've heard i mean i've heard shamed by other girls i mean shamed by other girls
01:30:41.420
who are by women who are yes yes shamed by other well shamed by other girls who think it's like
01:30:47.900
they're like they're confused and they like like are doing something bad for themselves by not
01:30:54.540
sleeping with men i could see i could see that because because their virginity is probably some
01:30:59.740
sort of a uh like a looking mirror and they're like oh i'm a hoe
01:31:08.380
i don't think that's what she meant at all i mean no the women the women that are judging just that i
01:31:13.660
think we're conditioned to think that like sleeping around is not only like normal as a woman but good
01:31:19.100
for you like you're getting something out of it you're empowering yourself you're like that i
01:31:23.100
think is like spread around i think that's where it comes from well i mean my my take on this would
01:31:28.940
be the only women that would shame women who are virgins must be promiscuous women a woman who's
01:31:38.220
value who has some degree of sexual purity or is a virgin herself is not going to shame
01:31:43.740
another woman who's a virgin oh yeah well i mean yeah someone who's like has a low body count a low
01:31:49.900
body count woman is not going to shame a woman who is a virgin yeah yeah definitely not that's
01:31:54.780
that's my sense of it anyways so yeah getting some stares from the girls at the table on this one
01:32:02.860
i'm lost completely i'm completely lost what what do you mean why you lost no which is
01:32:08.620
that do you disagree with her what about what she said yeah i don't agree or disagree it's whatever
01:32:15.900
she i mean i sleep at night fine if i agree or disagree or not you know like it doesn't
01:32:21.500
i mean i'm you know for me i do it for my own pleasure you know so yeah and you mentioned
01:32:31.660
when you mentioned like the whole one night stand thing or you mentioned pleasure are you saying and i i
01:32:39.020
think you're you would be right in saying this most women are probably more likely to be able to
01:32:45.420
climax with a partner if it's a continuous partner versus just hook up hook up hook up like and you
01:32:51.500
said guys aren't particularly focused on women's pleasure in a one night stand like i've had like
01:32:57.740
friends who have been with like a lot of guys like many many many many guys and never came like before
01:33:05.340
ever until until like so in my head i'm like how can you like what are you getting you just have to
01:33:11.980
like sit back and be like what are you getting out of this like why are you doing this and i think it
01:33:16.620
come like girls do it because they think it's something empowering like in some ways it is you
01:33:20.620
know in those like masculine ways of like oh the chase like compiling a list like and understand why
01:33:25.020
like some types of girls would like get basically just like an ego boost validation from it but i think
01:33:29.980
it's that's just more like turning inward and being like is validation is like an ego boost worth like
01:33:37.020
my like you know i don't know like my body yeah
01:33:46.140
anyone want to come in on that i think that like the problem with that statement is that
01:33:52.300
maybe girls are empowering each other to like indulge in hookup culture but as a society
01:33:59.980
it's a lot more rare for women to be like embracing hookup culture than it is for men men
01:34:06.460
it's almost always going to be congratulated if they're indulging in hookup culture or getting with
01:34:11.660
a lot of women but it's a lot more rare for women and like even from other women there is
01:34:16.780
slut shaming and like being looked down upon and i don't think it's necessarily that hookup culture is
01:34:21.420
a good thing but i think it's just that women should be allowed to partake in that if men are also
01:34:28.460
like it shouldn't be that we're looked down upon for wanting to have that just because we're a
01:34:33.500
woman and we're supposed to be seen as innocent and like low body count and like again i think
01:34:38.780
it's such a highly personal thing that like if you yourself don't want to be partaking in hookup culture
01:34:45.180
that is fine don't but if you do not everyone that is is like sleeping with just the sleazy men
01:34:51.260
and not everyone like just your friends are like hooking up with all these guys and never coming
01:34:55.340
some people have a really great time in hookup culture but i just think that it's so much more
01:34:59.260
common for women to look down upon okay who who's having a great time in hookup culture
01:35:04.540
i wouldn't i'd say it's not the women really i'd say the top tier men yeah definitely men over women
01:35:10.140
but that's because men are i think more commonly taking part in hookup culture women who are just
01:35:15.020
sleeping with a bunch of guys are probably like the the least happy people yeah i was gonna say like
01:35:21.900
have some girls try out like and just see for themselves like how do they feel about themselves
01:35:27.740
and like their life and like what they're like doing with their time by like spending like three
01:35:32.780
months taking like dating detox you know like no guys whatever and just and then going back into it
01:35:39.420
and like only spending time with guys in like a serious way like just try out like three months of
01:35:45.420
like telling guys no when it comes to sex see how you feel and like i just wonder if girls did that
01:35:50.460
how how would make it how it would how would make them feel like and which made them feel better about
01:35:55.420
themselves and like their worth and stuff i think the need for or like the the thought that women need
01:36:00.940
to hook up or like you were saying a lot of women are going into this hookup culture a lot right
01:36:06.060
i think it's more of an ego boost for them because i mean that's how it is for guys too it's like
01:36:10.940
you know i got with this girl fuck yeah bro which that's a whole thing because it's way easier for
01:36:16.540
a woman to get sex than a man it's that's just how it is societally like so i think it's it's more of
01:36:24.060
like an ego thing like hey all these guys want me all these guys want me and i think women should
01:36:29.020
start saying like like no bro like you're not you're not you're not that guy well maybe i'm just horny
01:36:35.260
because that's not me you know like but also maybe i'm just horny if you're actually getting
01:36:40.460
like pleasure out of it and like you are finishing and it's it's a good environment like you were
01:36:44.940
saying then i think it's fine if you're sticking to one guy yeah but if it's like if you're sleeping
01:36:50.940
with a bunch of different guys oh yeah that's and you're not finishing or you're not getting any real
01:36:55.660
pleasure like full satisfied pleasure out of it right it's like well what what what's the point with
01:37:01.740
that yeah yeah that's exactly what i'm saying okay yeah that's not me but that's like where we're
01:37:05.740
saying like if you're a girl in hookup culture you're automatically having a bad time which i think
01:37:10.460
is a very negative stereotype that has been portrayed and i think like me i prefer right now
01:37:17.580
at least while i'm in my early 20s taking part in hookup culture and doing whatever i want to do
01:37:23.820
rather than just being tied down right now and like i understand that that's not what everyone wants
01:37:28.380
but like i think that it's just more normalized for men to be in hookup culture than it is for
01:37:33.980
women and i'm not saying that it's a good thing for women to be in hookup culture not saying that
01:37:38.220
it's a good thing for men either but i just think that it's way more looked down upon for women than
01:37:42.620
it is for men there's a reason for that what do you please tell us brian i'd love to hear more well so
01:37:51.420
by the way and you so you mentioned a couple things there first off as a woman you should be if you
01:37:56.700
want to sleep with a bunch of dudes you're more than welcome to do it you're free to do it but
01:38:01.980
what you're going to run into is guys are going to look at that if we know that you had a promiscuous
01:38:09.180
past we're probably not going to take you seriously most men for long-term commitment for marriage
01:38:15.740
this is my wife you slept with 50 dudes it's a wrap i'm sorry but the same thing and most guys
01:38:23.740
aren't even going to tell you that though you most guys would be like babe i don't care i don't mind
01:38:29.180
like you can you can ask your friends oh i don't care about body count deep down in their i know in
01:38:35.660
their heart it's going to be an issue so you're free to you're free to do whatever you want and men are
01:38:40.540
also free to not want to wife you up to not want to put a ring on your finger to not take you seriously
01:38:46.620
because of your past just like women have all sorts of standards preferences and boundaries for men
01:38:51.820
one of the preferences standards and boundaries that men have for women is was her past was she
01:38:59.500
promiscuous and for a lot of men that's a big deal breaker and for a lot of women it's not because
01:39:06.140
we have been taught that it's okay for men to partake in that hookup culture and to rack their
01:39:10.300
body count up as much as they can not that it's okay because we did have this talk last time we are
01:39:13.980
allowed to have our own standards but a lot of us as women look past those standards because of the
01:39:19.100
society's norms of men that they're allowed to do that and it's okay for them and i think that's
01:39:25.420
where the real issue is not whether it's okay or whether it's not okay but whether like how we're
01:39:30.220
looking at it really well yeah there's definitely a double standard 100 uh i think there's biological
01:39:37.020
reasons for that uh so i mean well there's biological and evolutionary reasons why men care about
01:39:44.940
a woman's past promiscuity or current promiscuity and women care less i think for a for a guy if
01:39:52.220
he's promiscuous and he's sleeping with a lot of women that means he can get women women are kind of
01:39:57.180
attracted if a guy can get a lot of girls that's that says something about him yeah but he's attractive
01:40:03.500
plenty of guys will get with like any girl kind of is that what you're saying that like as a girl
01:40:08.060
i'm saying it's really easy to get like any guy to like when i've that's with you but as a guy it's
01:40:12.700
like really hard to get a lot of girls to want to that's that's that's a great point showing that's
01:40:19.260
a great point that's exactly what i was going to say for men it's fairly difficult to sleep with women
01:40:24.300
for women it's very easy like no guys you're not going to get congratulated for sleeping with a guy
01:40:32.220
that's that's easy you'll get congratulated for retaining a guy you'll get the congratulations for
01:40:38.860
like the no no no you want to be my boyfriend but women's so when it comes to the say the uh dating
01:40:46.540
marketplace the women's framework of success is retaining a hot like a high value guy yeah the the
01:40:56.860
quality of the guy that you can retain if you can sleep with 30 dudes i mean that's not
01:41:02.220
but they never talk to you again that's not really like impressive but as a guy if you can
01:41:08.700
sleep with 30 women that's kind of impressive because you must be bringing something to the
01:41:13.900
table either you're just really good looking dude you're confident you're charismatic high
01:41:19.580
you've got status or you're wealthy all these things you as a woman you don't really need any of
01:41:25.900
those things even including looks to sleep with a guy even unremarkable women can run circles around
01:41:35.020
like top tier looking guys in terms of looks in terms of just getting laid in terms of just having
01:41:42.140
sex so the sort of metrics are a little bit different but it's hard for dudes to get laid and as far as
01:41:49.740
as which is why i think it's a lie in like equality so like if feminism means equality and that means
01:41:57.180
it's good for a man to sleep with 50 girls and it's good for a girl to see with 50 guys like that's
01:42:02.540
where like it just breaks down that's where i feel like feminism like lies to girls when they say it's
01:42:08.140
empowering it's like good for you to what like give in to this like ego like this sense of validation like
01:42:13.260
why don't you find your self-worth like within yourself of like what you're doing not like
01:42:17.660
how many like bodies you have like that is just like so foreign well i don't know if anyone thinks
01:42:22.700
of feminism as like your body count because like that doesn't like seem i think a lot of people do
01:42:28.380
i think a lot of hookup culture like a lot of like women who participate in hookup culture like
01:42:33.580
do like the most the staple of feminism is like sexual i said it earlier the staple of feminism is seen
01:42:38.700
as like how promiscuous are it's acting out your sexual freedom i'd have to like disagree in a way
01:42:44.220
it's not acting out the sexual freedom but more the ability to do that because back in the day
01:42:51.580
feminism like when things were rising like women weren't even allowed to do that stuff kind of be
01:42:56.860
able to be promiscuous in that way and like feminism was created it was in the 60s and it was like because
01:43:02.780
they couldn't like get jobs and like well okay i mean feminism has been going on i believe
01:43:08.620
since the uh late 1800s you you guys can look up the seneca falls convention
01:43:19.020
there's all kind there's all kinds of directions we can go with with that one but um one of the
01:43:24.300
components of feminism beyond just okay you had in the the 19 the early 1900s you know there's
01:43:31.020
suffrage women wanting to secure the vote and then equal access to the workplace but a big component of
01:43:37.420
feminism was sort of sexual liberation so that i i think yes you're right to say that there's a
01:43:44.700
sexual component to feminism sexual liberation and i mean either way i'm just talking about feminism
01:43:49.420
right now in terms of hookup culture i'm not talking about 1800s feminism rights to vote right for
01:43:54.380
divorce that's not what we're talking about here i'm just i just brought up the point that i feel like
01:43:58.220
modern day feminism is lying to girls when they say sleeping around is empowering you that's all i was like
01:44:04.460
saying i just think it's dumb that like guys are congratulated for like hooking up with a girl but
01:44:11.580
then like if a girl were to like tell like her friends that she'd probably be called like a whore
01:44:16.060
or something but like i used to hang out with these people over the summer and like this guy he'd always
01:44:20.780
be like oh yeah i just got with this chick like blah blah and his friends would be like oh like good
01:44:24.940
job but then there was this one girl that was like participating in hookup culture and they would just like
01:44:30.860
call her a whore and like shame her all the time and then she would just like come over and be like
01:44:35.660
hey oh my god you're here like we missed you and act like they never said that
01:44:42.860
yeah and like the equality thing like i don't think it's like feminism is lying to women saying that
01:44:50.140
that's empowering i think that the actual issue is that men are still judging women for that whereas
01:44:55.900
it's not the equality and like if we never reach that level equal of equality yeah it's going to be
01:45:01.980
looked down upon for women but that's the change that kind of needs to happen and it's not going
01:45:05.980
to anytime soon i can guarantee that so you don't so you don't think that men should judge women if
01:45:11.740
they have a promiscuous past well i think like men can yes that is your own choice but only if you're
01:45:17.660
going to follow those same standards for yourself if you're going to hold yourself to this so those same
01:45:21.740
standards don't be a man with 100 plus body count looking for a girl with three bodies you know
01:45:27.580
that's just not fair like if you are a guy that wants to stay to yourself only hook up with a few
01:45:32.540
people little to none find a girl that's that same way that's fine that's for you but if you're a guy
01:45:37.260
that's hooking up with a lot of girls don't judge a girl because she's done the same that's just where
01:45:41.180
the inequality comes into play yeah but it's the only men that like like slut shame like it's it can be
01:45:48.460
like anyone it can be like girls as well yeah girls as well i'm just talking relationship wise
01:45:53.100
like if we're talking about somebody that you're choosing choose somebody that's like you then
01:45:57.340
don't judge somebody because they're not like you that's just where things turn wrong i i would
01:46:02.540
actually on ella's point there i would actually say that while men do slut shame it's probably
01:46:08.140
actually women who slut shame more interesting i don't know i feel about that i haven't experienced
01:46:14.620
that personally really you know i haven't i haven't experienced that if you're talking okay
01:46:19.820
i haven't experienced girls like slut shame more than guys i haven't experienced that like not
01:46:24.620
directly but more like if you tell me oh yeah my body count is blah blah and i go to ac but like it's
01:46:30.140
always like that i think that's fucked up though i just don't be with girls like that girls talk more
01:46:35.260
shit than guys yeah like girls talk way more i don't think you guys have been in like a locker room
01:46:40.620
i don't know if you're like like my best friends dating like a basketball player like her
01:46:46.140
like that i can tell you they have slut shamed more like what she tells me what they talk about is
01:46:51.900
the one thousand times worse of like a slut shaming than like i've ever heard girls say
01:46:57.740
or it doesn't even have to be your friend like someone you know like if you're walking down the
01:47:02.300
street sure and people like talk you know like even guys they pillow talk so they tell people oh
01:47:06.940
i slept with her so even a girl down the street they're gonna be like oh i know her she slept with
01:47:11.340
she's a hoe you know so like that like it doesn't even have to be someone close to you someone that
01:47:15.900
thinks they know something about you and you're walking you know i want to ask a question actually
01:47:21.500
what's like the longest you've waited till you've had sex with someone like knowing them what's the
01:47:26.060
longest you've known someone like does that make sense my question that you like and then how long did
01:47:31.340
you wait wait like what's the longest you've waited yeah why don't you go first um six months
01:47:38.060
because i was that your boyfriend yeah because i lost my virginity so i was like really wanted to
01:47:43.180
get to what and you're kind of alluding it alluding to it earlier he's your only partner correct okay
01:47:51.180
i'd say like a few months i don't know hold on cheyenne a few could be oh oh the longest okay a few
01:47:57.820
months okay was that your first guy maybe we should exclude like first yeah like just because
01:48:07.180
of course you know but so you've only had one partner yeah so i guess no okay outside of my like
01:48:14.620
first experience maybe we'll do first experience and kind of so should we just say like more recently
01:48:21.900
like what would i wait yeah i think would you like to frame it that way yeah like how long would you
01:48:27.660
like have you like waited okay sure that's a hard question because like what we were saying earlier i
01:48:33.500
feel like i'm kind of the same as a guy and like i know that hickey's kind of whatever brian i'm sorry
01:48:39.260
i'm sorry canceled um like i kind of mentally have a box like guys that i would want to hook up with or
01:48:45.340
guys that would make it past that point and if it's a guy wait real quick question on that so you you have
01:48:50.140
two boxes right you have just hookup box and relationship box do you make the relationship
01:48:55.420
box guys you make them wait yeah and then the hookup guys right away and that's the crazy part
01:49:02.540
is is like those guys usually like if they're in the hookup box it's because i don't see them
01:49:08.300
in a way like they're not good enough to be relationship wise so like maybe i'll let them
01:49:12.540
hit it yeah but it's like the same for me like i am also a boy but but wouldn't you
01:49:20.140
wouldn't you rather reward the relate the guys who would be worthy of a relationship
01:49:28.060
wouldn't you to me it would make sense you give those guys the sex soon and then you curve the
01:49:36.620
not curve them but like i would want them to wait to see if we have a genuine connection before i do
01:49:41.900
that you know just because like if it's serious to me then it's going to be serious to me but if it's not
01:49:46.140
serious to me then it's absolutely not and i just view it see i gotta comment on that as a guy that
01:49:53.260
bothers me i'm sure it does but like the guys i'm looking up with or continuing to like talk to you
01:49:58.860
don't know how i view things see like it's one thing if a girl just has a a flat standard like
01:50:07.100
i i wait a little bit of time before i sleep with someone but the moment it's like
01:50:11.980
like brian we're gonna wait for dates and then i know i know that she's slept with or she sleeps
01:50:23.260
with other guys quick but brian if i was seeing you you wouldn't know about those other guys ever
01:50:28.300
that's what i'm saying like it would just be me and you
01:50:30.300
but it would like in the same way i guess here's the maybe sort of an equivalent how would you guys
01:50:40.620
feel if you knew you're dating a guy and he was it was kind of like serious or whatever but it was
01:50:46.380
kind of like you guys just kind of you went over you're hanging out in sweatpants you would watch
01:50:53.180
something it was a good time maybe eat a bit of food watch a movie fuck whatever but you found out that
01:50:59.180
in his past relationship he took that chick on vacations he bought her he took her out on
01:51:05.020
expensive fancy dates but he's not doing that with you you would you feel a certain type of you'd be
01:51:12.620
like why does she get that stuff but i don't absolutely but is that not the way that it is
01:51:19.020
in real life now i guess but sometimes you're that girl that's going on the vacation and getting
01:51:24.620
the dates and sometimes you're the sneaky link and that's the places like i'm just saying like it's the
01:51:28.940
same for me as it is for most guys like i've kind of learned to use that same evaluation process and
01:51:35.580
i feel like for me personally it's gotten me some places because i don't have all of the like
01:51:40.460
emotional gotten you some places what do you mean like it saved me a lot of trouble from falling
01:51:46.220
for guys that weren't worth it by sleeping with them immediately by keeping them away from my emotions
01:51:52.140
like maybe they're attractive maybe like not into them why like see them at all maybe i think they're
01:51:57.980
attractive and i don't want to see a future with them but i just want to have fun they're exciting
01:52:01.900
for the night they're exciting for the night and like that's how guys view a lot of girls too so i
01:52:06.060
don't see why it's a problem for like girls to think that same way but like do you get pleasure from
01:52:11.900
like these people who just like yeah see you i do like personally i do because i'm not always
01:52:18.300
seeking that emotional attachment sometimes i am and sometimes i can put that person in the box and
01:52:23.980
know like i really value this person i don't want to just jump right into sex and like have it be
01:52:28.060
nothing but if not like not every person that i come into contact with i'm not i'm gonna date and
01:52:32.860
i'm gonna marry like some people are solely hookups and i think that's okay in my opinion
01:52:37.020
so really quick i wanted to go back to the whole equality about hooking up just for a second because
01:52:43.180
i want to you guys have probably heard this before a master key can open any lock right
01:52:53.100
so if you've heard something similar to that it's it's there's something we'll say it say the analogy
01:52:58.860
okay so i believe it goes yeah you can do it i think it goes something like
01:53:02.860
um a key that opens so you know a lock that opens to any key is a shitty lock but a key that opens any
01:53:11.980
lock is a master key yeah do you think there's any like truth to that statement wait repeat yourself
01:53:19.740
a lock that opens to any key is a shitty lock but a key that opens any lock is a master key so basically
01:53:27.340
essentially it's very easy for women to get laid and it's difficult for men to get laid it's it's
01:53:35.420
harder for men to get laid than it is for women to get laid so you're saying it's like easy to get like
01:53:40.380
ran through like well you're like it's easy for women to get laid very every single girl at this table
01:53:49.100
sorry guys there's a truck passing by every single girl at this table right now could get laid tonight
01:53:58.540
with a new guy except for ninja turtle don't just kidding i'm kidding you could do it you could do it
01:54:02.860
he's right no yeah that's true you have to you have to change out of the costume maybe they might
01:54:07.020
think you're crazy in the costume actually you know what come to think of it should we do a fit
01:54:12.300
check on the costume by the way yeah a little fit check i'm sweating right now oh she said i'm
01:54:18.780
sweating i'm dead it's like it's kind of like it's kind of cute oh girl see through
01:54:27.740
i think it might work she could pull she could even in a ninja turtle costume you could still pull
01:54:32.380
every single girl here guys are easy doesn't that mean that you're easy or what but the the point is is
01:54:37.580
that that's why men are congratulated if they can sleep with a lot of women because it's impressive
01:54:44.620
whereas it's not particularly impressive for a woman to be able to sleep with a lot of men
01:54:49.020
because it's easy or guys are easy like you're easy guys are easy yeah sure but i have the same
01:54:55.820
standards like you're easy if i can sleep with you without even talking to you like you don't know me
01:55:00.620
you don't know where i've been you don't know who i am like you're easy
01:55:03.020
i'm sure i'm easy if you were so inclined you y'all could sleep with me too but what i'm saying
01:55:10.220
the point i'm trying to make cheyenne's been giving me the death stare so i think that's unlikely but
01:55:15.980
um no so i mean the the point is is that it's just it's difficult for men to get laid and it's very
01:55:23.180
easy for women to get laid you didn't do you disagree you're right you're right but i could
01:55:32.060
get why is that our problem well it just it comes down to how is it your problem i mean it that's
01:55:42.620
just the reality because that's why the double standard you did say earlier life's unfair
01:55:47.900
yeah no life is unfair yeah women i suppose you have the privilege i don't know if it's
01:55:55.340
necessarily a privilege but it kind of is like okay here we go women have dating on easy mode
01:56:04.460
i mean like maybe we you guys have that on easy okay like maybe like a woman can have like sex
01:56:08.940
really easily but to actually date and to find a man that's going to commit to you and do all those
01:56:13.340
things is extremely hard versus if you're a good man and like the standards for a good man or the
01:56:18.860
bare minimum you could find a girlfriend like that yeah from a woman to find a boyfriend it's like oh my
01:56:25.820
god i mean i don't think it always needs to yeah i want to hear your thoughts on this but i agree with
01:56:29.260
that i think like how difficult it is for guys to like it's easy for a guy if a guy wants to find a
01:56:35.580
girlfriend like i feel like he'll find it pretty fast but if like um a guy wants to find someone to sleep
01:56:42.220
with like but in the same way that like a girl could find a guy to sleep with like pretty fast
01:56:46.620
but that's just like my impression of it maybe it's like different from the guy's perspective
01:56:50.380
how easy or not it is to find a girlfriend so i would say okay just sleeping with i don't think
01:56:56.380
there's any disagreement there just to get laid absolutely way easier for women i would say though
01:57:04.060
when it comes even to getting a relationship it's still not to quite the same extent but it's still
01:57:09.580
easier for women because you have the initial stage is it's still easier i don't know like to
01:57:19.660
me like if you're like a guy like you have like you have a little bit of game right you get a girl
01:57:25.420
on a date like girls are so easy to please like just to be girls are women are easy to please like
01:57:30.620
if you're just nice and like me by dinner like i feel like you're good to go like as a guy and like
01:57:36.460
if she's if she likes you if she likes you then it's like just buy just buy dinner that's it guys
01:57:41.580
all you gotta do is buy dinner be nice yeah the one coffee that'll get you a girlfriend i'm sure
01:57:46.140
yeah i feel like the one you need yo you need a lot more than that you need a lot more it's a good
01:57:51.740
start but you're gonna get as a dude like there's not a lot of guys who are doing that that's like why
01:57:57.260
i'm saying that because like but be honest like girls say what they want is a guy to like bring her
01:58:03.340
flowers like do all this stuff for her but i swear when a guy does that to a girl she
01:58:08.460
she won't she like might very well like might be like turned off from it it's coming for you it
01:58:13.340
needs to be like the right there's like a little moth i mean yeah but still then for a guy it doesn't
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have to be the right girl to sleep with so it is still like not the same
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no you make a good point you make a good point but yeah i mean even honestly even when it comes to
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whoops almost knocked the mic over even when it comes to getting a relationship
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y'all still got that shit on recruit mode y'all got that on easy mode well send me the instructions
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because i'm struggling well the thing is is that you might be going you they're probably don't tell me
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this do you have any guys in the friend zone what do you do you have any guys in the friend zone
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i mean like i don't like like anybody right now so but there's no guys that you know are romantically
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interested in you you know they they like you they're attracted to you they're romantically
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interested in you but you friend zone them you don't have any guys in the friend zone i mean to
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me i know i know you just got out of a relationship so maybe that's like i don't know because i haven't
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like you've never friend zoned a guy like i have like friends on the guy say say the thing you're about
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i'm gonna say something that's like a little bit conceited but i feel like also like just any girl
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like you kind of assume that like every guy likes you not like every guy but like you know like if
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they're being a little extra nice or whatever like i assume that they like me sure so but it's like
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they don't really ask like me out or do anything to like necessarily put them in the friend zone but
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i'm personally really friendly that like i'm not gonna be rude like i'm not gonna be a bitch like
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i'm gonna be nice to you and then some guys take that the wrong way and they think that you're into
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them when it's really not that but if a guy like expresses romantic interest to me i am very clear and like
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i had a friend who like this she friend zone a guy but she kept doing like these weird things so
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like sleeping in his bed with him like they wouldn't have sex but she'd sleep over and like
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do all these weird things like that's mean like when your friends own a guy like make it very clear
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that like you're just friends and don't do anything to allude that you think you don't
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want to get that's mean like i think that's really mean some girls do that so yeah that's that's
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kind of a peculiar one she friend zoned him but she would because like he was doing things for her
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like he was being nice to her and like giving her rides and shit exactly okay so the finesse
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the finesse okay yeah so wait so what where were you going where were you going with that
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my friend zone guys like i haven't really gotten to the point where they like asked me right but
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do i think that there's guys that are being nice to me well i guess i guess the point i'm trying to
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make is you you said that well it's kind of harder to for a girl to get a relationship but what maybe
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it's not with the ideal suitor but you could pretty instantly of the men that are in your friend zone
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they're ready but you're just not into them right most men don't have like a have that degree of
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okay there's just this guy he this chick she wants me okay i guess i'll be with her
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most guys don't have that so well what's up what up i mean it's like yes you're absolutely right about
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everything everything you're saying women have much easier access to sex and relationships and stuff
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but again why is it like our thing like i feel like that's solely a matter of women having like
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because it's not that men aren't as attractive as women i don't think like sure women are generally
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more attractive but like there are attractive men out there and there are good men out there
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but i think it's more of like where our standards lie and like we kind of talked about this the last
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episode like what were we saying that women will go above and across whereas men go
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oh women women date across and up yeah attractiveness and socioeconomic hierarchies and then
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men date down basically yeah men date across and down and i think that's a lot of it is like
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we might have this accessibility but we're not really taking advantage of it all the time because
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we're looking for like someone that's actually in our standards whereas men don't always do the same
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thing they will go for women that aren't always in their standards let's pull up a tate clip on this
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real quick just because it's related eric if you can switch over to the video uh scroll down just a bit
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to the tate section just so i can see oh we need a should we finish this um we'll do the tate and then
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we'll come back to that just note the time i think it's two minutes in so okay uh go down just a bit
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i don't think most women can actually genuinely understand how lonely the majority of men are
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and you need you need to truly understand if you're joe schmo
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average in nearly every way in starbucks working you ain't getting a dm ever
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two girls two girls two girls will never be lonely as much as you might be unhappy with the
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possible suitors you can at least about and flirt if you feel sad there are men out here in the world
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who have genuine loneliness and i can prove this statistically why do you think it's all the men
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killing themselves put it back eric uh you do you guys want to give a quick reaction to that i think
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that's what he said was valid dead ass because i have eight brothers i'm the only girl out of eight
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brothers and you have eight brothers yeah all like uh any step brothers or yeah so my mom has some
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and my dad has some okay but so maybe that's why i defend i have a respect for men are they
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are they all watching by the way are your brothers can we shout them out shout out to my brothers
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there's a lot of them a lot of names the familia shout out shadow but um so like my respect for men
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hits different like i um and i know how lonely they get and men are in society men aren't supposed
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to cry men aren't supposed to cry they're not supposed to be depressed they're not supposed to
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so they have like this thing where like they have to hold all that in so that's why i feel for a man
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it definitely is that's why the suicide rate is mostly men for that reason women yes we get lonely but
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like he said like a man can't show that he is so for us we can show it to each other so we can get
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help a lot of men have to not be feeling that way you know so i believe what that guy said that
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was facts and valid like a motherfucker did you want to come in on this i saw you oh you know what's so
02:04:49.740
funny is that my ex-boyfriend when i saw him he told me that he watches andrew tate and it helped
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with his depression so i feel like that's like that's a fun fact i guess it's right like i think
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men they're not allowed to like show their emotions and i think like back to the point of feminism like
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i would want like the the negative societal norms on men to be switched like they should be able to
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express how they feel and it's like they really can't so it's sad okay ex-boyfriend like is that why you
02:05:19.500
guys broke up he started watching tape videos no i mean i'm like pretty chill so like i don't know
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you guys want to hear a story i was like talking to this girl right and i told her i was um i was
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i told her something about tate and she's like oh no and then she canceled our date
02:05:39.580
because i mentioned something yeah guys don't if you like andrew tate don't
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fucking bring that up to a girl because like bruv anyways whatever okay cheyenne did you wanna
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um this is just a random like genuine question from like all of the talk right now but like
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it just feels a little off for us to talk about like wanting traditional men and like them to fill
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those roles and like no painting nails and no dresses and things like that but then to say like yes they
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should be able to cry because i think crying is one of those things that is labeled as feminine
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feminism or like something more feminine that men are traditionally and societally taught not to do
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because it is for women and so for us to say like yeah that's so sad like they have nobody and they can't
02:06:30.540
cry and there's such a high suicide rate that also goes into society's role of not allowing them to
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embrace those things and it comes down to the toxicity of it all and i do think society that's the reason
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why i do think that's absolutely right like men don't have as many people there for them or they're not
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able to express that in that same way but it comes down to us breaking down those roles of society not just
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what we want and what we don't want it all plays in together and then it's generational too
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i know like my brothers are like that because in a mexican household like you're supposed to be strong
02:07:05.420
like you're you know like the guy he has to be macho he has to be you know so it's actually generational
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generationally taught too by a father that you have to be uh you have to be tough you have to
02:07:18.060
be the bread maker of the house like you it's also not even society fuck society but it's also like a
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generational curse that's put on them by their fathers as well too like he has to grow up to be this man
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you know and is that i mean you have eight brothers is that something that you feel was put on your
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brothers a little bit no they're not all my brothers are completely different um most of my
02:07:43.100
my mom's baby daddies they were like one night hookups you know and then like one's dead one's
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in prison you know what i'm saying like so none of their my mom was like the main she was a dad
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you know yeah so she raised them you know and so like then i just know that from like my father
02:08:07.420
from my uncles they how they were raised by my grandpa and by their fathers is because
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they were raised to be like you have to be like this sure i do we are behind on super chats here so
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i got to get to a couple super chats guys if you want guys get them in ten dollars and up by the way
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just a reminder 500 super chat i will shave my beard in the style of your choice
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stifler uh ask the ladies to rate themselves on the scale of one to ten really quick we can do that um
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um a 10. i'm a 10. you're a 10. okay yeah personality yeah looks though um probably like a 9. 8.5
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like looks or like overall looks um maybe like a 9. and then overall
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okay nine looks 10 overall i'm at a 10 out of 10. 10 out of 10. i'd say like eight
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i don't know because you're selling yourself short yeah i'd probably say like nine i feel like i'm just
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like some average blonde i don't know wait nine yeah well average blonde just like nine yeah well
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all blondes are like really pretty like i think that like everybody should dye their hair blonde i don't
02:09:28.140
know i just like for the summer i don't know she said no i agree and then like dark for the winter i don't
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know well everyone should be told okay not everyone what about what about you guys what do you think
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luke do you want to answer this one i think like a eight
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oh uh six 6.9 on a good day if i had a ninja ninja turtle costume maybe 7.3 i would say 10 if you
02:09:58.700
were if i had a ninja turtle costume okay matching matching outfits i see you all right super chats
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oh wait we already got this one hold on guys getting to the super chats i think this is where
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we left off uh she said she doesn't want a dominant man but doesn't even know what dominant means being
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dominant just means taking the lead not bossing you around sorry sorry guys we're just getting to
02:10:20.860
the super chats now so i know we this was we were talking about this like an hour ago um but shell
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thank you for the uh canadian ten dollars yeah i mean that's my sense of what dominant means too um
02:10:30.700
and eric can you just uh put it center for us um just during the soup chats so yeah my sense of
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dominant is just uh it's not being bossy like and also like so okay you have dominant submissive
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submissive isn't something that's like forced or taken submission is something that's that's given so
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yeah it's basically just taking the lead in my purview i mean even if it means taking the lead i
02:10:58.700
think that's still not necessarily what i would want personally so still same answer if i don't know what
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dominant means sorry i'll google it next time okay sme with the uh five dollars uh okay yep sorry just
02:11:16.620
a reminder guys ten dollars and up uh chase paisley with the 11 11 okay he is also ocd like me just
02:11:22.620
with the numbers ask can you put it center eric um ask tara and the rest of the ladies who make better
02:11:27.580
lovers right wing men or left wing men uh okay we're finally getting it to it chase i don't know if you're
02:11:34.620
still in the chat but um okay so tara first and then we'll let the other girls respond um just from like
02:11:42.060
personal experience like i'd have to say right right wing men are better are better in bed okay
02:11:51.500
chase paisley there um i you've only dated one guy but he likes andrew tate so was your was your
02:11:58.460
boyfriend was he i think i don't left right i don't think that determines whether you're good or not
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like what what was your boyfriend was he conservative guy uh i guess you'd say he's
02:12:08.620
more on the conservative like trump voter no he didn't vote for trump but stormed the capital no
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like not like that but like i don't know okay yeah i also don't think it matters i don't think that
02:12:23.260
political stance has anything to do with your sexual ability but i've pretty much only been with
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like left-wing men so i think i would have a biased answer my only right-wing man was my first boyfriend
02:12:37.820
and i hate that guy good times okay nope okay um as long as they didn't like extreme one side or
02:12:48.220
extreme the other i don't really um i feel like it doesn't matter like i've never like met a guy and
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asked him like his political standpoint like i honestly don't know like the people like who i've
02:13:00.700
like talked to or anything i don't know like where they stand uh luke right-wing men or left-wing men
02:13:16.620
hmm do you do you have to go no worries hey thank you for coming wait you have a call or
02:13:23.420
yeah yeah oh but you're you are leaving though well thank you for coming have a good rest of your
02:13:28.780
night um no i think yeah again i don't think there's a difference in it i got an answer for
02:13:38.460
this man hey what is it bro i mean okay so i'm i'm center left i'll pull it back up here
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i'm gonna say it fucking liberal chicks are fucking crazy as fucking bed i'm just gonna say it
02:13:54.540
someone a few podcasts ago says ssr ssri pussy is the best pussy i think i saw that actually
02:14:02.860
but um i mean okay i sorry i mean i i had an antidepressant yeah yeah it's an antidepressant
02:14:09.580
yeah selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor i had a right-winged girlfriend and she was the most
02:14:17.740
vanilla chick i have ever met it was oh but like super what it it depends though like first off i
02:14:26.780
don't even want to like mess with super woke chicks but like hr chicks nah but like
02:14:33.820
the thing is is that there's not a lot of uh sorry guys there's a uh truck passing honestly like
02:14:44.380
living in california living in southern california living in santa barbara most of the women i date
02:14:49.020
are super left-leaning so yeah there's some based moderate chicks though but yeah not honestly i don't
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really and a lot of conservative women are also like super religious so a lot of them are like
02:15:04.700
waiting till marriage so yeah i mean i'll put it this way the the right-wing girlfriend she
02:15:12.700
she kind of fell into the whole like you know gender norm like if that makes sense lays there and
02:15:19.020
takes it versus the more left-wing women which are like kind of down for whatever i kind of
02:15:25.340
fuck with that so it seems like guys want like this more like conservative like girl to be dating
02:15:32.300
but like in bed they want this like wild liberal girl so is it like you want about the best of both
02:15:37.340
worlds or is it like your short-term versus long-term like interests i want someone who can show the same
02:15:42.460
level of respect that i give them and who's also a freak that's what i want i don't care i don't i again
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i don't care if you are left-winged or right-winged as long as you have like the same common decency to
02:15:56.460
put forward the same respect that i'm giving you it's like then i can you know that's a relationship
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to me there's there should be trust and there should be respect also just living in santa barbara like
02:16:07.740
there's really not a lot of conservative women so you kind of like i'm not i'll date a conservative
02:16:14.220
woman i'll date liberal woman like i'm pretty center um center center left i'd say um ish i don't
02:16:21.820
know i don't know i i don't believe in like because i don't think you should be able to if you know
02:16:27.340
someone's position on one political issue i don't think it's a good look that you should you can guess
02:16:33.020
their position on all the rest but that kind of is the case so for me it's like if you really wanted
02:16:39.100
to suss out my leanings on politics you'd have to like go down the list one by one with me on
02:16:44.860
each of the issues but yeah there's just not a lot of conservative women and uh in santa barbara and um
02:16:52.780
but super woke chicks i don't know but like i don't know moderate i think most people are pretty
02:16:58.300
reasonable so yeah richard joy with the uh canadian ten dollars hello there are two other girls that i
02:17:04.140
think that would love to talk so let's get to another okay so this is from a while ago um i still would
02:17:09.020
like my second super chat question answered god bless america um i think we got to it richard right
02:17:24.060
i did oh my bad man uh sorry richard sorry um if you started dating man and then somehow it came up
02:17:32.780
that he spent time with escorts would that be a red flag yeah i did miss that one my bad guys um
02:17:37.500
it came in like as i was reading the other one so it just kind of slipped through the cracks so ladies
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uh would you date a guy who slept with the escort um i wouldn't date him but i wouldn't judge him for
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it either like you know like i mean i guess i would judge him for it to the extent that i wouldn't date
02:17:56.780
him but like that's his life but i would i don't know i really don't know i haven't encountered that
02:18:06.540
situation so i don't really know how to react my initial reaction is probably wouldn't be as down
02:18:14.300
just because like why are you paying for company with other women that's a little a little odd i
02:18:19.340
wouldn't pay for the company of a man so i wouldn't want my partner to be doing that either
02:18:26.220
yeah that'd be a no i feel like yeah i i wouldn't either i wouldn't i feel like that's kind of just
02:18:34.140
weird yeah like okay so i i should have maybe asked this question first so should someone's past matter
02:18:44.380
if your past involves paying escorts then yeah it does so to a certain extent yeah that's a little
02:18:51.980
different than like because this is this question is kind of related to body count so men care about
02:18:58.380
women's past when it comes to your past promiscuity and it sounds like most of the women at the table
02:19:03.180
here you care about a man's past not fucking hookers yeah and prostitutes a little different
02:19:10.460
maybe just for safety reasons but i guess safety reasons goes both ways as well could go both ways
02:19:14.780
right i mean if you've been promiscuous then yeah that also goes like the same way yeah well i just
02:19:19.740
feel like i wouldn't want to be like hooking up with somebody who has like the mindset to pay people
02:19:24.380
to have sex with them like that's just so weird to me i don't know it's very different than like
02:19:28.700
organically meeting a lot of people and having a lot of sex like it's a bit of a different story really
02:19:35.020
quick if you guys had to wager what percentage like of the breakdown of the genders in terms of
02:19:41.020
who is having to pay the opposite sex to get sex would you say it's would you say it's maybe 99
02:19:48.780
men that are paying professional women maybe one percent of women even maybe even less even only
02:19:54.700
fans is a form of like they're paying a subscription to sure that's i mean it's not as extreme as an
02:20:00.300
escort but like i don't know how many men have only or pay for only fans but it's probably a lot
02:20:05.500
and that's i think well what's the gender breakdown what would you say like 99.99 for the prostitution
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thing yeah bro i don't i don't know anyone you don't need a prostitute as a woman yeah i don't know
02:20:18.140
like i would want to say that sounds about right but then i'm thinking like the world is so huge like
02:20:23.100
maybe there's five percent of women out there actually paying for male escorts maybe i don't really
02:20:27.340
know but like maybe it's probably less than one percent yeah but like why as a man are you paying
02:20:33.900
for escorts like what why can't you find people on your own like what's wrong well it goes back to
02:20:41.660
it goes back to it being hard for men to get laid yeah but i know that might blow your like what's that
02:20:49.020
like that you have to pay someone like to that extent like that it's so hard for men that they have
02:20:54.940
to pay people to have sex with them like i don't think it's that hard if it's a bit sad the guy
02:21:02.300
that asked is probably crying what i mean it's kind of it's interesting that you guys are coming to
02:21:09.580
this but like yes i mean this is plays into the andrew tate clip before there are men out there that
02:21:15.660
are genuinely lonely that cannot get laid then i feel like they should just use that money that
02:21:24.300
they're paying the prostitutes use that money for a therapist not not like that's not gonna going to
02:21:30.700
therapy is not gonna help a guy like get laid i mean something must be wrong with you if you can't
02:21:36.220
be or you could just be super unattractive here's the thing is that
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sorry i didn't mean to cut you off if you want to continue your point i mean i don't want to like
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put that to the extreme but like there's stuff i think there's someone for everyone like whether
02:21:49.420
it takes a long time or like whatever like i don't know like what point it's coming to that like if
02:21:54.940
you're paying someone because that's like a sexual fantasy of yours and that's like fine but like if
02:21:59.500
you're paying for someone because that's like your last resort then like i mean but it's also a big
02:22:03.820
business so i mean there's they have a lot of clients like there's a lot of men doing it well yeah i mean
02:22:08.860
it the the market is there for prostitution uh if so clearly there are men if if there wasn't a
02:22:18.780
demand for it women would not be providing but there's a huge market for sex workers only fans
02:22:25.260
strippers porn all of these things are predominantly consumed and purchased by men so that that has to
02:22:35.020
suggest something to you if if men were getting laid frequently easily they wouldn't be consuming
02:22:42.460
porn and only fans and going to the strip club and having prostitutes at to such a degree as they are
02:22:50.860
if if dudes were just getting laid like they wouldn't be getting chicks only fans they wouldn't
02:22:55.660
be buying their only fans so the fact that only fans exists is to me suggests that men are super
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struggling to get laid but i think that could be a societal thing maybe not like and yeah are there
02:23:12.540
also not like married women i mean women married men with kids subscribing to only fans and going to
02:23:18.460
the strip clubs and stuff so like they still have access to it but yet they still want more they still
02:23:23.660
want that pleasure well actually i mean most well you could say that married men probably
02:23:29.100
dead bedroom so they're married they have a wife but they're not fucking anymore or it's so irregular
02:23:38.380
and that's usually sometimes it's driven by the men but usually a dead bedroom is driven by the woman
02:23:45.100
you hear that a lot with marriages guys don't get married we're gonna get into that in a sec
02:23:49.740
um but uh yeah so how did we get onto that oh we were responding to the super chat or whatever
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but uh but it's interesting it blows your guys's mind right that guys are resorting to prostitutes to get
02:24:09.020
sex well i feel like the girls who do like only fans and stuff like they're doing it because they need
02:24:16.220
money because personally if i would like if i were to receive money like if i were to receive money
02:24:23.500
for having sex with somebody i would feel worthless like i would not want somebody to pay me to have
02:24:28.380
sex with them unless i was extremely broke well even if i was extremely broke i would find a different way
02:24:34.940
but like well i i can't imagine it's a great feeling to fuck a prostitute by the way i think you guys went
02:24:44.460
kind of to the extreme i'm like he has no other resort where i think a lot of the like revenue
02:24:50.460
that strippers are making is through like guys just wanting okay okay escort that's strippers are just
02:24:58.700
dancing you're right so okay well i meant escort okay escort or prostitute a lot of their revenue
02:25:05.100
is coming from dudes that are just trying to go out and party not necessarily they have no other options
02:25:10.220
maybe if it was like something his friends like did for him as like a super duper special birthday
02:25:19.180
it's like not a deal breaker or something i don't know maybe if it was like
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just something there it wouldn't be like a hard deal breaker i don't know it's the only thing i can
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think of like on your point but if it's not the act of like because i've heard of like guys like are
02:25:33.820
like guys that can get girls will still like have their friends will like take them to the strip club or like
02:25:38.780
go to tijuana or something and like get with like get with prostitutes they're like i've heard stories
02:25:43.500
of that and these are guys that like could get with like girls as like part of this party thing
02:25:47.180
i mean for me personally it's still probably like
02:25:50.860
concerning just like that's like what they think is fun but yeah but i guess i mean it is we don't
02:25:57.420
have to take it to the extreme we could take it like by the way i'm not saying that it shouldn't
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be a deal breaker right i i don't see a valuable reason or fucking any reason to have to pay for
02:26:07.900
sex by the way only fans is stupid that might be a hot take but i think only fans is the dumbest thing
02:26:13.740
ever like guys you mean guys paying for it yeah dude you guys have porn hub rub one out go to the
02:26:20.620
gym chill the out why are you like fiending over these girls that you're never gonna talk to you
02:26:25.740
you know i've been like like you don't understand how many dm's i get asking even reading the chat
02:26:31.340
they say where's her only fans worth i've been i've had multiple like only fans agencies you know
02:26:37.180
that's a thing yeah agencies where they they try to recruit me to be part of only fans and i
02:26:42.460
obviously deny because it's like but it's it's there's such a big like i know there's a huge thing
02:26:48.700
guys if you're that desperate children okay again i can't talk because i've never had that like
02:26:56.300
you're such a chat but only fans dude just again rub one out go to the gym it's not that hard
02:27:04.540
why are you like facts i mean oh my god well i i would say like so i definitely don't recommend
02:27:12.220
men pay for only fans but i understand kind of why some men do it because there's a component of like
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there's an interaction component on only fans where the men are like i guess they can message with the
02:27:25.100
girls and they get like some degree of attention that's how attention starved men are and then there's
02:27:31.500
also just like there's some guy like i guess you can put in requests and shit so like for some guys
02:27:38.060
that's fulfilling some sort of thing or there's a certain type of girl and it's also kind of like
02:27:42.140
the girl next door sort of thing too like you're fucking yeah it's like that you know her i could
02:27:48.940
see why it's like kind of different it's like someone you like you know it's a bit more approachable
02:27:53.980
they're like you you see their entire life like if yeah don't pay for porn don't pay for porn guys
02:27:58.940
that i see how it's different i honestly don't approve of it but like i see why it's like different
02:28:04.140
than that yeah here's the best i could i like advice i can give for that instead of paying 20 a
02:28:10.460
month for an only fans pay 20 for a gym membership workout get a good get a good body can we go and
02:28:18.620
then fucking fuck dude can you do the ziz for us yeah i can do this for you
02:28:27.100
walk fucking myron go to go to the fucking gym bro get off your ass can we do like a try can we see
02:28:33.420
a try well dude holy man are you on gear dude no okay fuck myron okay
02:28:42.540
you're very passionate about the i i i i just yeah it's such a stupid fucking website in my opinion
02:28:52.860
he just single-handedly ended only fans please stop paying for only fans by the way um i just would
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like to take this time to announce that i have acquired onlyfans.com whatever so subscribe it's coming
02:29:09.020
soon um it's in the works guys luke is gonna he's gonna do some like tasteful shirtless photos
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on my only fans okay so uh let's see we got eldritch scrolls 333 thank you for the ten
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dollar soup chat good to see you back man jasmine right let's go out on a date i'm asking you out
02:29:26.060
will you accept this rose are you gonna go out with uh elder scrolls 333 i think i'd have to like
02:29:32.620
at least see what he looks like first like i have to politely decline what if he's nice and buys
02:29:39.900
you dinner yeah then yeah but like okay her d her dms are open okay uh everyday edgar with the
02:29:46.620
ten dollar soup chat if your body count is above five then you can't just say that was your past and
02:29:50.620
pretend to be a traditional woman now everyday edgar good to see you back man it's been a couple uh
02:29:59.020
shows thank you man um yeah if you're the thing is i there's this saying uh i'm trying to remember
02:30:06.380
how it goes something about this is from myron gains i've heard from maybe he got from somewhere
02:30:13.260
else myron from fresh and fit um men are concerned with a woman's past and women are concerned with men's
02:30:19.180
future so i i don't really know but anyone have sweden do you have a response to ella my bad um ella malmo
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can i can you respond in swedish by the way to this uh sure okay do it they want to hear you
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speak in swedish okay but i forgot what your question was every day edgar i can't see my eyesight
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is too bad oh um here i there's this trick if you go like this no she has a different no i'm not
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doing it or you go like this yeah that's my choice do it oh my god no way it works if your body count
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is above five that you can just that you can just say that was your past and pretend to be
02:31:11.260
a traditional woman now okay do you want to respond in swedish your native tongue
02:31:20.700
you are aware that's been a while since i spoke swedish right what's that it's been a while how
02:31:24.620
long has it been like an hour she said an hour like three two months maybe so you've just forgotten
02:31:34.060
swedish no but okay so think that if you don't speak english don't hear i mean yeah don't like
02:31:41.020
you only spoke like i only spoke swedish at home and the rest was just like english or spanish
02:31:47.420
every day edgar i'm sorry she doesn't want to speak swedish but you know what actually
02:31:52.860
it's kind of the super chats kind of the swedish flag colors with the okay
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okay right so in swedish see i only forgot the question like am i am i am all right
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there we go okay richie rich with the uh ten dollar soup chat ladies would date a guy who's
02:32:17.740
would can you guys richie rich i like your little avatar by the way ladies would date a guy who's had
02:32:26.220
a sexual past with a men so would you date a guy who's slept with men sure yeah he treats me right
02:32:34.700
that's the problem i would i would not i would not i probably would not why um well i i don't know it's
02:32:47.500
just well it depends like if he identifies himself as gay bisexual let's say he's bi okay fine
02:33:01.100
well i don't know it depends no okay he okay here's his sexual past he was a bottom and he
02:33:08.460
he you know you know posture check by the way let's just say you have a one-way ticket to
02:33:17.900
saying yes to getting wait izzy posture check post posture check izzy okay sorry you're okay
02:33:28.220
you're just blocking her frame sorry no you're good you're good um do you want to answer the super chat
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izzy um i guess it would just depend i mean it depends on the situation and like he's a bottom
02:33:46.140
and like no he he like gave dudes head dudes or dude like dudes he gave dude's head probably not
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because then it's like so you got a picture like like i'm like he tried it and like he didn't like
02:34:00.380
it like that's fine like but i don't i would literally have a guy like if a guy i was dating
02:34:08.780
i would i don't know how to explain this but it's also just how i feel but like if i was dating a guy
02:34:13.340
and like i would rather have him like cheat on me than like turn out to be like whoa
02:34:21.900
like gay only because like gay in the past you'd rather have him cheat in the present than
02:34:30.380
you found out oh in the past he sucked some dick
02:34:34.860
what if he was like part of a bukkake what he's in like a bukkake and it's just like yeah no it's
02:34:40.300
no it's a no like i i just only because it's sort of confusing to me it's like one it just it
02:34:46.860
like sort of invalidates like our chemistry i feel like and then like i don't know that's on i mean
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cheating also would maybe like invalidate the chemistry but i don't know i mean yeah that's
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just my like personal i'm just like gonna like be honest that's just how i feel i've literally like
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had those conversations like in the past of like would just yeah something i would just take it
02:35:09.020
personally honestly something like that happened to our roommate and she doesn't know what she doesn't
02:35:15.340
know yeah is she watching this uh probably hopefully not no hopefully not
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whoa you had quite a reaction to that what what's going through your mind right now that's just crazy
02:35:30.300
that she doesn't know that's the only thing that's like so flabbergasted yeah like she didn't know that
02:35:34.140
her boyfriend like was with the guy or like cheated on him wait which one yeah wait wait the boyfriend
02:35:42.380
the boyfriend cheated or just in his past hooked up with a guy i wouldn't really say the boyfriend
02:35:49.340
not the boyfriend wait what the boyfriend didn't cheat she let's just say she had a
02:35:58.140
oh fun night so she like that with a she cheated on her boyfriend with a guy that was like closeted
02:36:06.620
and he like still oh wait she boyfriend no no well he knows so if your roommates oh wait she cheated
02:36:17.020
on her boyfriend with a dude who's gay yes yes exactly whoa okay first of all bro if you're watching this
02:36:29.420
get the fuck out of the house jesus christ they don't know how many roommates to have this could
02:36:35.340
be like any guy we have that's true yeah okay moving on uh let's see richard joy with the
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subsequent 10 canadian canadian dollar soup chat thank you man this is why i completely agree
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with brian sneaky links means you're a promiscuous girl god bless america
02:37:06.620
god bless america okay thank you man but hold on how are you saying god bless america and you're
02:37:12.220
super chatting with canadian dollars you treasonous fake how dare you what kind of car is in your
02:37:20.140
avatar by the way is this a miata do you drive a mazda sir how dare you okay captain levi with the
02:37:27.100
ten dollar soup chat a promiscuous woman is as dangerous as falling into a narrow well she hides
02:37:33.100
and waits like a robber eager to make more men unfaithful proverbs 23 27 28 um word
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um is this actually in the bible are you just writing this shit you know i did hear something in
02:37:51.020
the bible that uh something it goes along the lines of as a man it is better to sleep on the roof of
02:37:59.900
your house than to something better to sleep on the roof of your house than to be married to a quarrelsome
02:38:06.460
woman apparently that's a thing in the bible the bible was pretty based i'm not i'm not gonna lie
02:38:14.940
okay stop davon jackson hey man good to see you again thank you for this ten dollar soup chat not
02:38:20.620
here for a long time today missed most of it but i'll watch the answers on playback with the ladies
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data man that used to pay for sex in the past i have a follow-up but oh well so davon thank you
02:38:30.860
for the ten dollar soup chat we already someone already super chat that but man good to see you
02:38:34.780
i don't know if you're still in the chat but uh feel free to ask another question uh and if if we
02:38:39.980
can catch it um and it's not a uh if you want to just send a regular message we'll just treat it as
02:38:46.460
super chat richie rich with the ten dollar soup chat not not wanting to marry a promiscuous woman
02:38:54.620
is similar to not wanting a car at a hundred thousand miles i don't like when we start comparing women
02:39:01.420
to physical like the key in the lock and the car it's like when this is a human being with feelings
02:39:07.260
and a life like why are we comparing this to a car well i mean there's this term called an analogy
02:39:15.100
that is sometimes used you know yes but like even so like you he's saying like i wouldn't want to get
02:39:26.140
a car with a hundred thousand miles but like if he himself were a car he would probably have a
02:39:30.700
hundred thousand miles and if he doesn't then get a car with less miles that's on you just don't buy
02:39:36.220
that car but women want to date men who are experienced that doesn't not always that doesn't mean like
02:39:42.220
you'd date a virgin you'd sleep with a virgin i have how many how many how many men have you uh
02:39:49.580
taking the virginity devirginized probably like three or four three or four no actually it's it's
02:39:57.980
three exactly because i am at four and it's not but you're at what do you mean you're at four body
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count of four your body counts four i told you this last time i forgot should we do the chat's been
02:40:11.740
asking for body count um i guess we could go around the table really quick on body count what's your body
02:40:16.940
count one four six six three seven multiply it by three and that's the real number
02:40:30.300
wait what is yours brian yeah have we ever asked that i'm a man of god what does that mean i do not
02:40:37.580
uh kiss and tell i do not uh i'm very discreet i don't reveal my my body count dude we just
02:40:46.060
fuck you like actually yeah what why actually what's wrong what what if we all answered if we
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had the option to be like i like just didn't know that was an option if that was an option i was like
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oh i don't want to say like i think i don't know i think the last show like how about you guys guess
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yeah five out of the six girls said they didn't want to answer yeah definitely girls said no can i guess
02:41:13.020
yeah you can guess does the chat have any good guesses what are they throwing out seven seven
02:41:21.900
chase a little lower chase don't tell them chase knows chase knows chase let us know don't don't
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do it chase don't tell them i think if i was to guess i would say you're probably at about
02:41:33.580
six wait but you had a you but you were that's so off or what so you've had your youtube career
02:41:41.260
for 10 years do like girls come up to you and are like oh my god like you're like that guy like do
02:41:47.180
you get a lot of still not honestly i'm still waiting for like a fangirl i've never had like
02:41:52.540
a fangirl like oh my god brian i'm sure they're out there you're fucking videos
02:41:57.980
i'm waiting my dms are open okay like do people come up to you in the street and be like oh my god
02:42:03.900
you're the guy with the podcast in santa barbara i get approached quite a bit oh really yeah um
02:42:10.700
but uh it was more so in the past when i was a bit more active but uh yeah people approach me but
02:42:17.260
it's mostly dudes so unfortunately uh yeah mostly guys approach me so if i was gay bro i'd be
02:42:23.420
fucking killing it probably so it's low what's low the body count no i'm just you're my youtube success
02:42:32.620
is not actually i was more successful before i went with women actually before i even started youtube
02:42:44.860
um but yeah so is it not six hot cold did you take a guess we were also like older than us so
02:42:55.020
like you'll have like a lot more like time like literally just time to i've got more time i've had
02:43:00.220
more time to rack it up i'm a dinosaur over here is it like 18 i have no idea
02:43:07.740
yeah nine i'd say like nine or ten yeah wait i want to change my answer to 57.
02:43:18.140
those are all fantastic guesses i can neither confirm or deny any of these you're the worst
02:43:24.700
like who was like closer it's somewhere between zero and 200. oh great somewhere in that range okay
02:43:33.580
moving on so uh we got this one we got this one right let's see uh brooklyn and i guys get praised
02:43:44.460
i'll read it just because it's close guys get praised for hooking up high body counts because
02:43:47.740
it takes way more effort than women girls literally just have to ask for it girls don't even have to
02:43:53.420
ask for it y'all just have to show up you just have to be there you have to be in a room that easy for
02:44:00.860
us like it's men yeah you're easy women don't make it that easy for men but but we're talking
02:44:06.140
about that it is easy for you guys yeah absolutely but it's men's fault at the end of the day you
02:44:11.660
guys make it too easy yes you're right i suppose it is our fault i wish it was i suppose i wish it
02:44:17.740
was women's fault if it was just easy as fuck to sleep with women but fortunately it's not the case okay
02:44:25.740
the game uh-oh yo jasmine what the fuck mike davis called me said you were snitching chola you know
02:44:31.420
what to do is this actually him or is this like some random that is um actually the the game he's he
02:44:38.220
canadian ten dollars that's actually him this is what do you want to say i didn't want to like he
02:44:45.580
probably left like the stream i don't know like i i told you i didn't want to like show because i
02:44:51.820
this is his business wait why is he using canadian dollars it's not i don't know it's not the game
02:44:57.740
right but yeah that's not the game that's just kind of can we i kind of want no okay thank you for
02:45:06.140
the uh 10 canadian richard joy it must have been it was richard joy's sleeper account richard joy with
02:45:12.540
the 10 10 canadian dollars what is the difference of man paying for a couple of nice dinners or just one
02:45:17.820
hour or just one hour and he's satisfied uh what i think he's saying like what's the difference
02:45:26.780
between a guy paying for an escort versus taking a girl on a bunch of dates but like i don't know
02:45:33.580
as a man you pay for it one way or another okay right period right you gotta you pay one way or
02:45:40.380
another your own choice do you want to pay for the dinners or do you want to pay for an escort that's
02:45:44.140
i can i mean the whole thing with like the escorts though i i've never paid for a uh a prostitute but
02:45:50.060
i can like sort of see why if like you just want to have sex and you don't want to deal with the
02:45:54.940
fucking game the bullshit you just want to fuck i can kind of see it like for some guy i mean i don't know
02:46:04.700
come on you're you're making a face you got what what are you thinking um i don't i think it just
02:46:14.860
means like like effort like and also like you're when a guy like pays for dinner he doesn't like
02:46:21.100
expect or he shouldn't expect anything in return if especially like on a first date like i don't think
02:46:26.460
there should be no expectations maybe like if it's been a few dates like you know but like versus when
02:46:31.580
you're paying for like an escort like there's a very clear exchange here that's going on and like
02:46:36.620
it's like that's very different like if you're going on multiple dates it's because like it's going
02:46:41.180
well and like you guys are vibing so true true true okay veto skeletta the 10 dollar soup chat thank you
02:46:49.020
man these girls are fine if the dude got bukkake and train on but it's off limits for escorts um
02:46:55.580
wait we never agreed to bukkaking being okay just want to put that out there yeah i don't think they
02:47:02.300
were i i don't think they were super stoked on their on their dude getting bukkake by guys um okay
02:47:08.220
cool that's all the soup chats so wait okay can i just like take it back i swear like you guys said
02:47:13.020
like when it was like well maybe not the bukkake thing but like you're like if it is it okay to have
02:47:18.380
like it's okay if he if like a guy has sex with another guy before but not if he like pays for sex with a
02:47:24.060
woman i think you guys said like yes it's okay if like a guy had sex i think oh sorry i'm gonna
02:47:29.820
meant like if like i don't know maybe like if he's experimenting or like i don't like it's kind of
02:47:35.980
like i feel like if he tried and was like oh like that's not me like that was like kind of like an
02:47:40.460
experience i had like i wouldn't hold it against him but like if maybe if he was like consistently
02:47:45.260
like doing it and like i said i like a masculine man and like i'm not saying men that are into other
02:47:49.820
men are feminine but sometimes they tend to be so like it would have to like align
02:47:54.060
with like certain things for me but like having like what your examples were extreme like that's
02:47:59.260
like for me that's just like a no and like you know but i'm more meant in the sense that like maybe
02:48:05.260
like he tried something and it didn't work out and like that was it and like for me i think that there's
02:48:09.660
a very big difference for a man paying for money i mean paying money to have sex with a girl versus
02:48:16.140
having some interest in men in the past like those just aren't on similar playgrounds to me
02:48:23.980
word uh so we need to bring it back to the rest of the steven crowder clip because we didn't finish
02:48:28.940
that eric if you can pull that back up and then we have one more video to react to we'll probably wrap
02:48:40.060
slut shaming anybody okay that being said look can we all acknowledge that not most women are
02:48:49.740
whores okay let's be clear about not not probably not even a plurality okay but some are
02:48:55.580
and it's a bad idea are we not allowed to say that some are at this point yeah if you're just
02:49:02.380
going on your and you're going into it with the mindset of i am going to sleep around i this because
02:49:07.420
it's my 20s some women are and we'd like to thank your dad find guys that aren't serious about you
02:49:15.820
don't don't settle for the guys that obviously aren't taking you seriously by the way if you want
02:49:19.340
to be taken seriously be somebody that can be taken seriously as well you didn't quite look like
02:49:23.820
i get it it's this baseline it's this baseline well we're in our 20s this is what we do something
02:49:28.140
happens in you know i was in college so i uh you know was getting ripped all the time look i i
02:49:32.780
drink i'm not someone who i don't drink a lot i have no problem with people who drink i have no
02:49:36.300
problem with people who uh do these things responsibly but to say well the baseline is if
02:49:40.700
you're in college it's four four years of glorified alcoholism it doesn't have to be that way right
02:49:44.940
and this is perpetuated by of course the entertainment industry saying this is what women should
02:49:47.980
do in your 20s this is what this is what you should do in college no no no you can make good
02:49:51.660
decisions at any point in your life and they're so dumbfounded like exactly no that's not what we
02:49:56.460
mean well what do you mean i mean you know have a bunch of relationships and sleep with a lot of
02:49:59.740
guys okay here's the issue and i will say it is a double standard when people say why am i a slut if
02:50:03.740
i do this and men aren't okay that is true here's why you're the gatekeeper your set point women you
02:50:11.660
control access to sex right because your natural set point is no i don't know prove your worth a man's
02:50:17.500
natural set point is please so you are the rate limiting factor take advantage of it we've tried
02:50:23.820
to empower women by stripping them of something with which they're powerful the ability to to pick
02:50:29.020
a suitor you've given it away yeah you have uh you have value yes you know you have inherent value
02:50:37.020
yeah that you can use like if i ever hit rock bottom i just can't go out and sell myself no you can't
02:50:42.700
no well it's just gonna be the other men yes exactly sweet your guys's reaction to that
02:50:52.860
there's a few things there there's the double standard stuff there's uh
02:50:57.660
promiscuity etc etc i did like how you said like women have value like i think a lot of times
02:51:03.660
sometimes you don't realize like your value as a woman and like how kind of like powerful you are
02:51:09.260
and like it's your choice on how you want to use yeah that power especially being a young woman too
02:51:14.220
like it was i was it was interesting i was talking to my dad like me and him have like a lot of
02:51:17.660
discussions and he was telling me he's like you don't even know how much value you have as a young
02:51:22.620
woman he said you were probably one of the most valuable things on this like earth right now and
02:51:29.420
your dad is a legend what are you um what's your like ethnicity what's your background um i'm latina but
02:51:37.580
i'm like super mixed so like he's like um mexican okay like yeah he's we're just super mixed but
02:51:44.380
so but he's like kind of more traditional yeah he's he's very traditional like i would say i'm
02:51:48.780
traditional too but like i said i believe like it's your choice but it was really interesting the way
02:51:53.820
he worded it to me and it really like kind of affected me i was like you're so right he's like
02:51:57.980
he said even just like biologically like your value there's rich men who are want to wife you like
02:52:03.660
they want to pay for you to have their kids and i was like that is really true and i think as a
02:52:08.460
woman you need to recognize your value whatever that means to you yeah no that that's a really good
02:52:14.060
point and that's a good point that he made in the video that women you're sort of you're born with your
02:52:19.980
value so in this in the sense that you do have a sort of inherent value that men do not so you could
02:52:29.260
you could make money just buy if you wanted to be a surrogate or uh even if you um i mean the example
02:52:37.100
he gave was prostitution like if you hit rock bottom just everything you fucked your life up
02:52:44.940
you could still sell yourself not not great as dudes i don't know luke's pretty handsome he could
02:52:53.980
probably get away with it we can't just i couldn't sell myself on the street i mean
02:53:03.500
sure you could you think let's go yeah can i be the pimp though and i'm learning what what cut
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that should be your next like prank show going up to girls and being like how much money would you pay
02:53:14.300
to get with me and seeing like oh yeah they'll say zero for sure i'll get roasted for sure
02:53:19.420
but uh did you want to come in on the reaction to the video um there was a lot going on there i mean
02:53:28.860
the one thing i was thinking about right now is just like the way he said that women are the
02:53:33.740
gatekeepers or we have that decision to be like no or maybe or yes and men are just like please
02:53:40.460
again like i've said this so many times but like that's just the biggest question i have is like
02:53:44.780
why does it come back to it being women's fault and women having to fix ourselves in order to fit
02:53:50.140
that standard better or to make it more likable for men it sounds like men are upset that they don't
02:53:55.420
have the same privileges as women because of their own for lack of better word horniness in a lot of
02:54:01.340
cases wait what like it just sounds like a bunch of men complaining about women like not being a good
02:54:12.220
enough and stuff so just to clarify my question so you disagree that women are the gatekeepers to sex
02:54:18.860
i'm not disagreeing with it i'm saying it's true but i'm just saying like why does it have to come
02:54:22.940
back to us needing to fix ourselves to do better for us like why do we need to whereas like in reality
02:54:30.220
it's just like men not having the same access to those things and so it just sounds like men are kind
02:54:36.620
of upset about well it's it's something that it's that is in women's control if women are the gatekeepers
02:54:43.260
but who made us the gatekeepers like men have women women are the selectors women are the selectors
02:54:50.780
so as far as i'll get i'll let you come in in just a sec so women are the gatekeepers you choose
02:54:58.620
so your question is also in who they want to sleep with to a degree but i mean it's not like
02:55:10.700
women choose who they want to have sex to women choose who they have want to have sex with okay
02:55:16.300
there's there's a saying it goes women sleep with who they want men sleep with who they can exactly
02:55:22.220
so if the way that should be fixed i think is not women should sleep with who they can i don't
02:55:31.500
think that's what should that's not what he's saying about it no i think he's saying the opposite
02:55:35.100
yeah and that's what i think as well but it's like the way he makes it sound is like these women
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need to be doing better these women aren't good enough they're promiscuous they're slutty they're
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ran through yeah he's saying not i think that but like sure that is valid but at the same time
02:55:52.780
why can't men just have higher standards why can't men be doing better for themselves you know but what
02:55:57.340
the thing is is that if you're you're trying to shift the blame to men here but the thing is is
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that because women are the gatekeepers it kind of falls on you it does but i don't think that it
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should okay if if every single women are able to dictate the terms when it comes to sexual access
02:56:20.540
so if every single woman there was a grand conspiracy and they every single woman agreed
02:56:26.140
we're not sleeping with men until we're married with them you guys would be screwed then well then
02:56:31.820
men are going to have to adapt women are never going if if men were just like women men adapt to what
02:56:40.060
women do so the reason men aren't doing first dates and all this anymore is because women just be
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sleeping around if that was the standard for the plurality of women then that's what men would be
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doing but if men can just be like come over what are you doing 12 a.m come over then that's what's
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gonna that's what's gonna go down because men and women's sexual strategy is a bit different but
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you wanted to come in go ahead i agree with the video and that i think like it's true that women
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just have so much power and i don't think they understand it and i think it's people treat you
02:57:22.300
how you expect to be treated and people place value on you how you give value to yourself so i i don't
02:57:28.220
think it's ever good to go into like a victim mentality anyways it's always good to take responsibility
02:57:32.860
and ownership like for your life and how people treat you and so i think like like
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there is like some responsibility like on women to like hold themselves at a higher value and like
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i don't think i think women should have more appreciation for how much power they have in terms
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of like being gatekeepers and that they can make men do a lot of things because they hold like so much
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power there and i think it's it is like i think just shying away from that responsibility isn't
02:58:02.540
really helping anyone i think it's like incredibly empowering to like own that responsibility of okay
02:58:07.660
i'm gonna be in control of like how i'm treated interesting we'll get to you guys in a sec you said
02:58:12.940
that your dad told you that as a young woman that's when you what did he tell you exactly he said it's
02:58:18.860
he literally said it's it's more valuable than gold he said it's one of the most valuable things to be a
02:58:23.500
young like he said young beautiful like being like a young beautiful woman is like one of the most
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valuable things that you can be and like he was just trying to like explain to me like that like
02:58:34.060
the power you hold as a woman in general and he like he's like i don't know like i get my arguments
02:58:39.900
with him whatever but he was like he was like oh like a 40 year old woman didn't have sorry guys he was
02:58:45.020
like a 40 year old woman doesn't have the same value as a 20 year old woman which i don't like agree with
02:58:49.980
you know but like he explains things like really like i don't know like he's a little misogynistic
02:58:55.340
like you know okay so i think probably what he's saying in terms of value it's not like not your
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value in terms of you as a human like your yeah like your life like your your soul your spirit or
02:59:13.100
whatever he's saying on the sexual marketplace on the dating marketplace in the marriage marketplace
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yeah a young 20 year old woman has is more has more value in those marketplaces than does a woman
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who's 40. yeah and and part of the reason for that is if you want to have children
02:59:33.820
like a woman who's 40 year old can be fantastic woman but let's say you're a guy who's 40 she's not
02:59:48.460
a great bet for having children yeah that's like so if you want to have a family as a guy you want
02:59:54.380
you want to have kids you want to have a family you're probably as a 40 year old man you're probably
02:59:58.860
going to be looking to a 30 year old woman a 40 year old woman you can get pregnant but like at 35
03:00:06.060
that's when you're in high risk pregnancy territory greater likelihood of miscarriage uh greater
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likelihood of uh birth defects and yeah i mean me and him were getting in this argument or discussion
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about like high what a high value man is versus a high value woman and what did he say he said that a
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high value woman is based on her looks and a high value man is based on his resources how much money
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he has all these things and like i was just getting in like you guys can't even like say what you think
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like i was just trying to kind of disagreeing with him being like there's a lot more to value than just
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how you look or just how much money you have you know but he was like disagreeing with me on and like
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we were just i think that there's definitely more to to to it than looks for sure um he said like a
03:00:52.540
submit like just a woman that's just gonna like like like you said like be young like have kids
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look pretty and like do like he was very like we were getting in a heated discussion like we were
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going at it yeah i mean there's definitely more to it than looks for sure but i think i mean i think
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for both men and women looks are pretty important so yeah like that's what he was telling me like he was
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just telling me straight up like looks is really important and as a woman you need to understand what
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you look like and understand like the value that holds well i mean basically when you're young
03:01:25.500
as a woman you're you are basically from the ages of say like 18 to 25 you're at your strongest
03:01:32.860
negotiating position let's just say you can probably if you were so inclined in that age range is when
03:01:39.740
you're going to be best able to secure a very like probably the best guy that you can probably get
03:01:48.220
that's a statistic actually it's like i think after like 26 is like when people want to get
03:01:52.620
married because you met like 67 percent of like your options or something yeah whereas for men it
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tends to be a little bit older it's like 30 to 40 in that age range is when men tend to be in their
03:02:07.020
strongest negotiating position in terms of the sexual marketplace and the merit the dating marketplace the
03:02:13.500
relationship marketplace yeah well i like actually have a question like what do you think defines
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like a high value man actually for the women what do you think and then for the men a high value women
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we'll start over here if you guys want to go first probably just like a guy who doesn't just like
03:02:30.140
give himself away so easily and just like takes care of himself and like wants the best for
03:02:36.060
um just like a guy who wants the best for himself what do you mean give him away so he's himself
03:02:42.140
always like it's laid to to get laid yeah and yeah well even to get later just like go out on the
03:02:49.820
weekends and like do stupid stuff and just like think that's funny and like the best that their life is
03:02:58.780
Luke what happened this weekend what did you do this week or what was it the previous weekend it was it was
03:03:05.260
this weekend what did you do last weekend so we went on on the street and i did a do you want to go
03:03:12.780
hook up prank no no no no no the you're uh you oh you something like it was friday night i think oh
03:03:21.260
me i jumped off a garage roof and i tweaked my backup were you tanked i was pretty saying okay well i'm
03:03:32.220
talking about like repetitive actions like that like every weekend like do you do that like every
03:03:38.460
single weekend or is it like a one-time luke's a fucking legend i go okay i don't like go and hurt
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myself every weekend oh my god that'd be terrible no but i'll like you know if i'm doing something i'm
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gonna go i'm gonna go 100 what the what i just had like the gnarliest little speech impediment god damn
03:03:59.820
i didn't even know this okay yes i when i when i go out and it's not every weekend but it's
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you know i like to go out have fun party and by the way that doesn't mean get with women
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just for the chat and everyone else like luke is a man of god
03:04:17.660
i'm not religious but yeah just go with it i'll go with it um but yeah you know i'll go out and do
03:04:27.580
some crazy sometimes stupid stuff but it's fun yolo like how often do you do it okay well like is it
03:04:35.340
like three times a week or like i don't know like no it's like it's like two times a week
03:04:40.140
no but it's not like me doing stupid stuff and when i've been like you like
03:04:46.140
your back up or like what did you do we don't we don't have to go it's fine let's continue on with
03:04:52.700
her question so your question was what it what constitutes a high high status high value man
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for you guys can even answer what do you think a high value man is
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would you consider yourself a high value man good question i i would consider myself a high
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value man because i know when to be loyal i know how to show emotions in the right way without being
03:05:18.860
overly like aggressive and i know you know i can provide for my my partner my girlfriend i can
03:05:44.460
but perhaps not in others i'm working on i'm working on a couple things you know i gotta
03:05:49.580
i gotta get ripped like luke here you know my i've sort of uh you know i got a little tries going on but
03:05:56.140
like you know i'm kind of i've been i've been slacking on the
03:06:00.060
on the exercising so i i want to get back into uh proper shape um but uh i think i mean i don't
03:06:11.420
party i don't go to clubs i don't go to bars i don't drink i don't do drugs career-wise i'm doing
03:06:17.340
well ish kind of i mean i'd obviously like to be doing better um i think i've got my head screwed
03:06:27.900
what do you think a high value woman is like what's your definition
03:06:35.660
so well just to wrap up on my thing so i'm i'm getting there i'm not there yet but like i feel like
03:06:44.860
anyways so what what's a high value woman low body count not promiscuous
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like 410 beef curtain queens is what the chat likes to say
03:07:18.940
you know maybe like a bit of a wizard sleeve you know but um no but like
03:07:25.180
it's unfortunate women are shamed if they have large labia i'm i it's just unfortunate right luke
03:07:30.620
yep yeah luke agrees no it's unfortunate but uh yeah 4 411 large labia
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uh no he's for real huh he's for real like i don't know why people are laughing right now
03:07:41.900
no i'm i'm dead serious do you do you think it's attractive when it's big enough to be used as a
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quilt what dude the bigger the bigger the better luke the bigger the better
03:07:53.020
well i mean women have penis size preferences i can't have a labia preference hello um but uh
03:08:06.780
has her head on straight doesn't go the isn't like crazy into partying and stuff
03:08:13.100
yeah uh probably more on the luke yeah if you want to come in um
03:08:23.900
nose nose i think those are honestly the two things i i would say you know pretty face fit
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kind of the same thing a woman would want in a guy but you know
03:08:41.420
if if again like if if i'm talking to a woman i want i want my woman to be respectful and loyal and
03:08:49.660
you know pretty and again like i said fit those are like my big what is that four my big four i guess
03:08:57.180
you don't really have to go anything outside of that what was it fit feminine and friendly no
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the three f's fit feminine loyal and respectful yeah loyalty huge from the jump right
03:09:11.820
first text message yeah that should be first easily loyal loyal loyal he has now invented a new word
03:09:21.820
loyal it's getting late for me about which part a high what's a what's a high value man to you oh um
03:09:28.940
i would say also loyalty is a big thing for me but i have like the worst trust issues
03:09:35.100
because every like actual relationship i've been in they've cheated on me so as much as i want to
03:09:40.780
say like loyalty i think guys are loyal and then blindsided boom don't know how it happens but have
03:09:46.620
you ever cheated no you've always been cheated on twice yes every relationship real relationship
03:09:54.780
real relationship i haven't dated since end of high school beginning of college so like
03:09:58.860
yeah fair enough but i would say loyalty is a big thing um definitely sense of humor like that's that
03:10:08.460
doesn't really determine your value but for me personally like i value that in someone if they
03:10:12.620
have a good like personality slash sense of humor can make me laugh um i want somebody that is open-minded
03:10:19.900
honestly because i think that there's a lot of people that once they have their mind made up they
03:10:23.900
stick to that and i think that that is just not the way to go about life like there's just too many
03:10:28.620
different types of people and different types of things i really would want somebody that's open
03:10:32.300
minded and can think about things and like intelligent is really big for me too
03:10:38.460
i like the open-minded thing and the personality thing i think that's another big one yeah okay i got
03:10:43.820
one so did everyone get a chance to come in on this or should we just move up move on to the next topic
03:10:53.900
i like didn't but it's not like do you want to come in it's not like anything like especially
03:10:58.540
different i feel like yeah it's the same it's like respectful loyalty like everything entertaining
03:11:05.180
though is the only other one entertaining yeah that's so what do you mean by entertaining like
03:11:08.860
funny yeah like funny and just like not boring like like people that have something to say that
03:11:16.700
are like adventurous outgoing oh also like nature is really important to me so someone like in nature
03:11:22.060
outdoorsy hikes very physical like yeah loves to travel like those are like important things to me
03:11:28.860
i feel like give me a boring woman i want the most boring woman ever you don't have to be funny
03:11:41.180
anyways um okay do you guys want to get married and do you want to have children that's my next question yes and
03:11:47.580
yes i think i want to but i don't know if i will for both of those questions yes okay
03:12:00.220
definitely i think about like the type of like like i think about like qualities i want and like
03:12:06.140
need to have my future husband like honestly like multiple times a week and i like think about like how
03:12:10.780
excited i am to like care for and raise like my children like i'm so excited to meet them even though it's
03:12:16.940
like you know probably like you already have their names 10 years away no but i'm just like i don't
03:12:21.740
know how many but like i'm just i like think about that and like i'm excited about that like already you
03:12:25.900
mentioned you you think about the qualities that you are going to want in the husband what are those
03:12:29.980
qualities um you can list yeah so dependable reliable similar interests loyal hard-working ambitious
03:12:42.060
it's a lot but like i take like marriage very seriously i don't intend to like ever have a
03:12:46.700
divorce so like that's also very important like i'm like really picky because i'm i'm not gonna
03:12:52.860
marry and i will never like if i'm having kids with you for the sake of my children i will never divorce
03:12:57.340
you so i have to make sure you're someone i can count on like for the you'll never what like i would
03:13:02.300
never like if i have kids like i i don't want to divorce the father of my children yeah and yeah and then
03:13:08.380
also like good father like i think about like what kind of not just like what kind of like fun
03:13:12.940
like hot husband do i want like it's more like who's the type of person that i want like raising my
03:13:23.500
yeah 100 for both of them okay yeah i want to have kids and i want to get married but like
03:13:30.380
coming from a home with divorced parents i don't want to like have to get married and then get a
03:13:36.380
divorce because like that was a lot for me and my brothers and i wouldn't want to put that on my kids
03:13:42.540
yeah i'm in the same boat i i do want to get married and i do want to have kids but i don't
03:13:46.620
want to go through a divorce okay i i want to come in really quick here just with a couple things
03:13:53.100
i want to clarify something i said earlier i was being a bit uh hyperbolic um i don't want a boring
03:14:00.300
woman like a woman who bores me but like i don't care if a funny is so low on the totem pole like i
03:14:07.580
don't need a woman who's funny or who's like really quick with the banter if she if she has it great but
03:14:14.380
like i do not it's very low priority for me so but if she's like super dull in the sense of like if i'm
03:14:22.220
trying to have a conversation with her and it's just one word answers that would be kind of a
03:14:29.100
problem i obviously want someone i could have a i can conversate with but you don't need to be a
03:14:35.980
fucking stand-up comedian i don't give a fuck um okay so on the topic of marriage i have some sobering
03:14:44.780
numbers here 50 of marriages end in divorce 80 of divorces are initiated by women 90 of child
03:14:51.900
support 90 of child support payments go from men to women 97 of alimony payments go from men to women
03:15:04.220
guys don't get married don't get married would y'all get a prenup prenups can be thrown out
03:15:11.260
even if you have a prenup 20 years later oh i was forced into it i was i was uh you know pressured
03:15:21.900
boom the the super feminist judge yeah throws it out boom okay now you're on the hook
03:15:32.860
so but yeah prenups get thrown out all the time even if you have a lawyer drafted up guys guys don't
03:15:40.300
trust a prenup like that's not going to protect you so you like genuinely don't think um men should get
03:15:45.740
married no i don't like perhaps in the past the legal institution of marriage or you mean like
03:15:54.380
the sake of like having a home like you don't think men should have a single partner and they
03:15:57.660
raise their kids no i i believe i think you can have a a life partner but marriage the institution of
03:16:03.100
marriage um it's bad it's bad i don't think you mentioned the government i don't think you shouldn't
03:16:09.980
let the government get involved with your love life um then that's when you get the courts involved
03:16:16.300
then that's when the lawyers get involved so but guys be careful in some states even if you're not
03:16:22.860
married there's something called i think it's called uh common law marriage if you cohabitate
03:16:28.380
with a woman for a certain period of time they're going to treat it like a marriage and she could be
03:16:32.220
entitled to your stuff so look into what state that you're in because it can be uh you can still get
03:16:38.380
fucking screwed there so yeah i don't think men should get married because the thing is is that
03:16:44.220
um let's see it's just marriage is not okay there might be a scenario where i would get married if i was
03:16:55.900
so 100 certain that that i was going to be with that woman forever because what are the vows what are
03:17:03.180
the marriage vows till death do us part the divorce rate is 50 percent people's word means nothing you
03:17:12.140
cannot say till death do us part and get a divorce if i'm getting married it's for life yeah that's it
03:17:21.900
i certainly agree with that i think people should be a lot more choosing about like who they're marrying
03:17:26.940
and that's easy to say like none of us clearly obviously have like been in those situations so maybe
03:17:31.580
like when people are getting married they genuinely think this is their person forever but overall
03:17:36.380
like just based on those rates i feel like people just aren't being aren't paying enough attention or
03:17:42.140
like thinking as clearly about like is this really what i want to do i think that's what a lot of what
03:17:47.420
like love does to people though is like in that honeymoon phase thinking you're so like into one person
03:17:54.540
where like you're like this is my life person and then you're married and then you have kids and then
03:17:59.500
years down the road you realize there's all these things that you may not like about them or how
03:18:03.340
they handle certain conflicts and stuff and then divorce comes around but it's like so many of
03:18:08.300
those people i'm sure that they would have never even known that or recognize that they would be in
03:18:12.460
that place years later like i don't think it's something that you can really predict and i think
03:18:16.220
that when you're in those relationships love does a really good job of blinding you from those flaws
03:18:21.180
yeah i mean worse can also be like the easiest way out like you can go to like i don't know like
03:18:27.820
someone to talk to and like fix your relationship but some people don't have like that commitment and
03:18:32.300
can just like just like divorce yeah i mean she would for me to get married like she has to be my
03:18:37.900
ride or die but like i'm pretty skeptical that it's ever gonna happen i have like a hypothetical like
03:18:44.540
let's say you were like with a woman right let's say it's been like eight years and she's like why
03:18:48.780
aren't we married yet like i love you like what's like i feel like as a woman i would question like
03:18:53.980
your your commitment to me and then what if she's like i'm gonna leave you unless you don't marry me
03:18:59.180
like what would you do would you really like and you were like you have been with her for like let's
03:19:04.220
say she even had a kid or like because you're so strict on like not getting married it's like
03:19:08.620
i don't see i i guess as a man i don't see the benefit of getting married you would let her go
03:19:14.620
oh so you're saying she gives she gives me an ultimatum yeah marry me or we're done
03:19:18.460
because like i think oh we're done then after eight years she's giving me an ultimatum to get
03:19:23.580
married because like i would why should your commitment what what changes when we get married
03:19:28.700
what is the difference that's a good point what's the what changes really a lot i think a lot changes
03:19:35.340
like my advice to men is do not enter into contracts with people that are rewarded for breaking them
03:19:44.220
women in today's day and age are rewarded for divorcing men financially so if if there if there
03:19:53.260
was a reworking of the marriage laws why do you have that then have what that picture of two people
03:19:59.740
being me those are my parents those are my parents and they're happily married they've been married for
03:20:04.700
do you think your dad made a mistake by getting married not at all but but
03:20:08.700
well i i don't think it's hypocritical i mean i love my parents that's part of my parents they're
03:20:15.660
also not a good like example of today's generation well it's yeah it's totally different i mean they
03:20:20.460
got married in the in the 80s yeah so i mean don't you look at your parents be like oh i want that
03:20:26.700
that's not like well certainly i mean i think a life partner would be fantastic and i definitely i'm
03:20:33.020
i'm not opposed to yeah you're just opposed to like the legality of the government controlling
03:20:38.540
yeah i don't want the yeah but first off fuck the government i don't trust yeah but like much of
03:20:43.260
canada like much of like dude canada's cucked as fuck cucked what do you mean i was gonna say like in
03:20:49.660
in quebec like are you are you canadian no i've just my brother plays ice hockey so i've just
03:20:55.820
traveled there quite a bit but like in quebec the majority of marriages there is you're not you don't
03:20:59.980
get legally married you have it's the exact same thing but there's no government label on it
03:21:04.140
and that's like in a lot of like european countries do that too like marriage is not as prevalent
03:21:09.180
elsewhere like as a legal contract so if all you're saying is like i don't want to enter like the legal
03:21:15.100
contract of it but i just want like but you are you would be in support of like a life partner right
03:21:19.900
sure like going to the church like you know like that's you're not like you know like i think it
03:21:24.060
well i'd have to look into the legalities of if you do get married in the church is that would
03:21:29.260
that constitute a marriage and what you know there's so i'd have to look into that eric can
03:21:33.180
you just on the canada thing on the other window you don't have to pull it up right now um can you
03:21:38.460
search canada common law marriage boyfriend has to pay girlfriend alimony something like that
03:21:49.260
because i read a story in canada by the by the way richard joy sorry for talking about canada
03:21:54.540
um i read a story that in canada there's a a guy fairly wealthy guy who was cohabitating with his
03:22:02.380
girlfriend for a couple years they weren't married the canadian courts ruled they broke up or something
03:22:08.220
the can canadian courts ruled that he had to financially provide for her even though they
03:22:15.020
weren't married and they split up so canada courts are cucked to fucking that's terrible um like i think
03:22:23.340
that then that's like why did you like that's just on the person like that's on the moral value
03:22:27.820
of the person like i would never even if things ended badly if i had a husband like i would never
03:22:32.860
want to like fuck him over like that like that's just then she's just like a bad person i feel like
03:22:39.820
yeah okay so here it is um eric do you see the do you have uh it's from the national post do you have
03:22:46.940
that one yeah it's the uh unmarried ontario couple do you see that one
03:22:56.460
yeah um oh can you uh control mouse wheel perfect unmarried ontario couple had no children in no
03:23:04.300
house but man must still pay support appeal court rules um so and then it goes oh shit fucking um
03:23:13.660
scroll down just a tad stop there or back up back up back up uh further up further up
03:23:21.500
keep going keep going no up yep uh okay that's good that's good that's good a wealthy businessman
03:23:27.500
will have to pay more than fifty thousand dollars a month in spousal support for 10 years to a woman
03:23:31.820
with whom he had a long-term romantic relationship even though they kept separate homes and had no
03:23:38.220
children together okay so in canada you you don't even have to get married and the
03:23:43.580
fucking government's gonna come for you so to me this is fucking ridiculous but anyways i just
03:23:48.780
because you brought up canada so um you can bring it back eric um did you guys want to come in on
03:23:53.820
something anything okay um i didn't mean but did i cut someone off with the canada i didn't
03:24:03.820
okay uh we got some super chats here and then we got one video and then we're gonna wrap up thank you
03:24:08.140
guys uh let's see uh wait where were we mike davis me and her dad would get on well tell him to hit me
03:24:17.980
up and we'll do business mike davis thank you the ten dollar soup chat um yeah your dad sounds like a
03:24:25.580
fucking legend can he is he down to be a guest on the podcast yeah i mean i don't i don't know if i
03:24:30.780
could even get him down here he was in san francisco he's an sf dude that'd be kind of interesting like
03:24:36.540
to bring on like a dad you would stir the pot if a dad and his daughter were here that's just too
03:24:43.420
risky i told him no he could come on like just without oh just without my dad okay yeah all right
03:24:50.780
brian your dad your dad's a babe obviously i mean yeah but uh that would be interesting you should
03:24:58.540
bring on a bunch of dads yeah yeah let's bring on some like based latino dads okay uh richard joy
03:25:05.820
with the uh canadian five uh but you first girls thought a trail ride on horse was a terrible invite
03:25:15.260
uh yeah they did not like the uh trail ride man um yo mike davis hey mike davis i i saw this thing uh
03:25:24.220
brian you can blame this youtube communist pc censorship for my lack of presence 90 of my
03:25:30.140
comments are roasts that don't go through mike davis here's what i'm going to do right now um i'm going
03:25:35.580
to uh i want some roasts mike davis i'm going to white list you in our back end so that should allow
03:25:45.180
every single one of your comments to go through youtube has like automated moderation like if even
03:25:50.540
if you say the word like crap or shit um so let me um let me do that or i could just do it after the
03:25:57.980
show really quick it might take me a sec um but mike davis we will white list you just so that your
03:26:05.180
comments do go through um let me let me do it after the show mike davis but uh i'll white list you so
03:26:11.740
that's not a problem uh okay so we talked about oh marriage the the thing i wanted to finish off with
03:26:19.020
but bro i'm fucking spazzing it's late so i have a list here eric can you or i'll hide the super chat
03:26:26.700
my bed uh let's see i have a list here of some men who have been divorced
03:26:35.420
brad pitt johnny depp will smith jeff bezos bill gates ellen musk ryan reynolds tom brady lance
03:26:42.780
armstrong alex rodriguez channing tatum chris rock ben affleck chris pratt liam hensworth ben stiller
03:26:51.340
david dukovny orlando bloom tiger woods sean penn sylvester stallone paul mccartney ryan felipe
03:26:59.100
justin timberlake jason momoa michael jordan michael b jordan the actor and hulk hogan maybe that last
03:27:06.940
one's not surprising but if these men can't hold on to a girl what chance do you think you have
03:27:23.260
wait was that a question no that's sorry that's a that's addressed to the chat guys these are very
03:27:29.500
high status high value men they got divorced their wives divorced them all of them the wives
03:27:36.380
divorced them or did they divorce their wives i'm not sure maybe it was amicable i don't know but
03:27:41.900
the fact of the matter is brad pitt got divorced yeah if brad pitt is getting divorced
03:27:51.580
we're fucked gentlemen i'm sorry we're fucked i feel like you're fully erasing like relationship
03:27:56.620
issues like i like there's just problems that arise when you've been with someone i'm sure
03:28:01.180
fame and all this adds another layer to it like he said ellen musk sorry i can't obviously i can't
03:28:07.260
pronounce elon musk my bad elon musk but go ahead yeah i think you're just fully like erasing like
03:28:15.180
relationship it doesn't matter like how great you are sometimes things just don't work out and
03:28:20.780
also fame is involved in every single one of those like anecdotes which always puts a pressure on like
03:28:28.460
relationships i'd say and also like if you give me a list that was like these are all people who
03:28:31.980
like their wives left them these are like famous handsome celebrities whose wives left them like
03:28:36.380
we'd have a different conversation but just because they got a divorce like could equally be like them
03:28:40.860
leaving their wife or like any other thing involved but either way like i don't see the point of doing
03:28:45.340
anecdotes like your parents that's a good anecdote for why like marriage works my parents good anecdote
03:28:50.780
for why marriage works so i just like you can just pick and choose whatever you want i feel like i
03:28:54.380
suppose i mean but i would say probably most i i didn't go into each one and determine hey was it
03:29:00.380
was it a mutual divorce but i think the thing is we do have the stats for divorce broadly speaking
03:29:10.140
80 percent of divorces are initiated by women so it's not a good bet as a man to get divorced or
03:29:18.060
sorry to get married my bad um so okay i want to open it up we're going to wrap here soon we're going
03:29:25.340
to do one video i want to give you guys an opportunity to come in final thought or question for the panel
03:29:33.420
luke you got anything no not really posture check
03:29:40.140
anything final thought or question um i just feel like a lot of divorces when
03:29:48.620
it becomes a divorce a lot of money that is like supposed to go to the other person doesn't
03:29:53.980
actually go to the other person like does that make sense like say there was like a child involved
03:30:00.220
that knew how to kid and there was like child support and the mom was supposed to give the dad
03:30:05.420
money for since the dad is taking care of the child i feel like a lot of those times
03:30:09.980
the parent never actually pays the other parent and it just becomes like an issue between like the
03:30:15.900
child and the parents when there's not child support being paid yeah or just like a divorce in general
03:30:22.940
if you have a kid involved like it just becomes a lot of like more issues
03:30:27.900
the child support thing is a gendered issue because
03:30:44.620
like i said 90 of child support support payments go from men to women and there's actually i mean
03:30:50.300
in the u.s you can be put in jail if you don't pay child support so we've done away with debtors
03:31:01.020
jails debtors prisons so if you owe a debt to someone it can never get to the point where where you
03:31:08.380
could be put in jail if you owe a debt and you don't pay it except for child support which impacts
03:31:24.860
wait so but well okay what so your final thought was
03:31:29.900
i don't know i guess like that having children complicates marriage of course yeah and divorce
03:31:37.340
definitely well you never actually know the issues between the people that are married
03:31:45.340
like for example take it like the the what's his name did like the trials with johnny death and
03:31:51.420
um amber heard for example like we don't actually know you get what i mean oh we know yeah well we
03:31:59.020
know a lot she took a shit in his bed yeah okay yeah okay well that was a bad example and she sliced
03:32:05.180
it she threw a ball at him sliced his finger off yeah okay yeah okay that was a bad example but like
03:32:10.620
for the rest like you said brad pitt for example like do you know what happened between him and his
03:32:16.220
wife i don't know but he's incredibly handsome yeah i guess you guess you guess what is like yeah but
03:32:26.300
if he's what if he's a complete yeah i don't know the guy i don't know he seems like yeah i don't know
03:32:30.780
he seems pretty i mean i've never met the guy exactly or wait or wait no he did come he was he spoke at
03:32:38.860
the santa barbara international film festival and i glanced at him wow in person okay but uh
03:32:47.980
i mean i we don't know sure but he seems like a pretty fucking cool guy yeah he seems like it but
03:32:54.460
you never you have no idea who he is he could be doing some crazy satanic ritual yeah like you
03:33:00.860
wouldn't know that you literally don't know you seem like a cool guy but like yeah we don't know
03:33:05.420
we don't even know your body count that's how closed off you are yeah i would feel like it i i i bet
03:33:12.620
angelina is the satanic ritual of one in that dynamic but
03:33:19.420
yo that's just assuming so okay so final thought or question
03:33:25.820
that you never know the issue between two people until you actually okay
03:33:29.820
mine is just like what i was saying before i think like both men and women just need to be
03:33:36.940
like pickier with their partners like in a good way and have their like values and priorities like
03:33:48.940
does it have to be related to the topic right now or is this no no it's just we're wrapping up so if you
03:33:53.740
have a final thought or question if you have a question for me you have a question for the girls
03:33:57.340
um got a question for mike davis so here's some costume ideas for halloween because this is not
03:34:03.500
my halloween costume this year so i'd love some ideas sailor moon sailor moon can i borrow that one
03:34:12.860
let's talk after the show word we'll talk after
03:34:16.620
uh yeah that's all i think uh sailor moon would be good i think cat lady would be a good one i do have
03:34:27.340
the meow mix is somewhere i don't know uh yeah v for vendetta we got a couple in the chats
03:34:36.380
kent 42 says be a potato uh let's see what else
03:34:42.620
slutty ninja pantsu jutsu cat woman okay there you go all right that's all i needed to hear just
03:34:49.980
my trying to think if you look like a superhero like a female superhero you could be
03:34:57.340
i don't know okay um you could be starfire star i was thinking of that one
03:35:06.380
wait good job luke can i be raven that's good okay we're set really good actually that'd be really
03:35:12.220
good i really want to be raven yeah luke you can be beast boy i'm down i'm down to be beast boy
03:35:17.100
oh yeah okay we're set that's all i had boom that's all i had to figure out it's done you could be
03:35:23.740
robin who the who the like robin and bet and yeah we're talking about the teen titans
03:35:31.980
it's okay he doesn't want any part in it yeah it's okay okay uh final thought or question um thanks for
03:35:39.020
having me on thank you for coming you're great the whole i really like the whole panel you guys were
03:35:43.980
awesome okay so we're gonna wrap up here with a video eric uh could you pull up the video tab please
03:35:51.180
um uh do we do the we do we do the who pays one i don't know uh do we do a tate one i said but let's
03:36:01.740
do the tate one we haven't done a let's do the forehead body count
03:36:04.940
i think 99 of the world's problems would be solved if females walked through life with their body
03:36:15.180
count on their forehead because it would prevent because it would prevent all of the disintegration
03:36:22.780
of morals it would prevent so many things about the world and women would be like to be with me as a
03:36:30.620
man i don't want to put another number on my forehead you have to be a good man they wouldn't
03:36:34.940
stop in these idiots and stop being idiots and all the idiocy would disappear all the degeneracy would
03:36:39.500
disappear families would return virgins meeting their first man staying with him her whole life
03:36:45.100
and being proud of it couldn't we go back to such a beautiful age all we have to do is start putting
03:36:49.500
numbers on girls foreheads we could fix everything that attitude is disgusting okay uh your guys's reaction to
03:36:56.620
that you know what's funny is like when i first watched andrew tay i literally thought he was a
03:37:01.580
joke like i literally thought like he was playing a character i did not think he was i thought he was
03:37:05.820
joking i thought he was joking like i did not think he was being for real about what he was saying
03:37:11.100
and like i don't agree that it would solve our world's problems as if men don't like it's you know
03:37:17.260
it's equal in the sense that men and women both create problems together so i don't think having a
03:37:23.580
body count on my forehead is gonna solve anything at all so yeah and like again it just sounds like
03:37:31.340
he's placing blame on women for all of the things that have gone wrong in society but i just i don't
03:37:38.060
think it is i think still goes back to men like there's a big argument on it and we could probably
03:37:44.700
talk for the rest of the night because it's already almost 11 p.m we'll run it back we'll get you on
03:37:49.260
again another time yeah maybe one day we'll solve it but like i don't know i just i will never be able
03:37:53.980
to look at that man seriously and full-heartedly agree with the words that he's saying
03:38:00.780
i think if it encourages women to take like their bodies and their relationships more seriously then i
03:38:10.220
think it would be a good thing i guess yeah when i first moved here mom like my mom did so much
03:38:24.300
like much research about like things that's happening in the u.s blah blah and she said that there's this
03:38:31.500
term i can't remember what it's called but that men get rejected like by women to the extent that they
03:38:38.940
start being like hateful towards them if that makes sense and i feel like andrew tate is like
03:38:45.580
one of those like i just feel like he's just like he's seen us like i'm better than everyone else you
03:38:50.940
get what i mean i don't think he's hating on men no not men oh i mean women i don't think he was like
03:38:55.900
hating on women though i think he is yeah like everything he says is so just against women and it's like
03:39:03.900
saying like all these guys are just like so good and just like he says he targets all these things
03:39:11.980
like he says all these things that are targeting women but it's like what woman is actually watching
03:39:18.540
him like it's just yeah i feel like guys who feel like they need more validation those are the guys who
03:39:25.660
watch andrew tate yeah that's luke oh by the way did you have any left did i give you an opportunity
03:39:33.660
yeah i don't have any of your last thoughts i also you know i don't really have a comment on it i think
03:39:37.820
tate has some good points but i also think he can be a little over dramatic sometimes a little
03:39:44.380
quite a bit over dramatic sometimes thank you but again i you know there is this whole thing about
03:39:50.460
how the media is portraying him in the wrong way and i can't speak like perfectly on him because
03:39:56.380
i haven't looked into it but as a guy i mean i do think he is saying some valid masculine points
03:40:03.900
and as someone who also yes yeah and as someone who i i think i can say that i have an open i'm
03:40:11.020
open-minded i also can say that some of his points are very closed off and just like extreme this is my
03:40:18.140
first experience like seeing something by like andrew tate i've like heard so many like this like
03:40:24.220
whatever videos we were seeing today was my first like time seeing him but i've like heard like lots
03:40:27.500
of hype about it but like i'm not gonna like cast any judgments yet on like i don't know what his
03:40:32.860
thing is about because one of my like favorite thinkers jordan peterson is like similar he can be
03:40:37.260
like taken out of context or like people like to radicalize what he's saying but if you read his works
03:40:43.420
it has a good intention at heart so i don't know like it's i didn't like immediately get the
03:40:48.940
impression this person andrew tate like has like a mallet in intention against women he seems to be
03:40:56.140
like promoting the values of like family which i don't know is like a bad thing but um yeah that's
03:41:02.460
all i have to say i know there's like a lot of hype about andrew tate this is like my first experience
03:41:05.820
with it but that just reminds me of like hype i've heard if we're gonna be talking about like it reminds
03:41:09.740
me of hype i've heard about jordan peterson but like yeah yeah definitely i mean definitely there's
03:41:16.700
some similarities between kind of i mean jordan peterson's much tamer i would say compared to
03:41:23.100
andrew tate i think andrew tate hams it up a bit intentionally to be controversial because it gets him
03:41:29.740
more attention he probably went i mean he got cancelled off the internet because of it but he's
03:41:36.540
not i mean he's not stopping he's still he's still out there so um yeah but definitely
03:41:45.020
that's cool though that you like jordan peterson because a lot of uh people hate on jordan peterson
03:41:51.340
but i think overall like his message is incredibly positive he pissed off a few people because well
03:41:56.940
we don't we're not going to get into it but uh yeah tate kent 42 says tate is like dark jordan peterson
03:42:03.340
yeah yeah tate's there there's definitely some similarities i mean can i say like a quote that
03:42:10.540
i love and i tell people all the time but people and i think about all the time but like people
03:42:15.020
i feel like don't appreciate it but maybe because we've been talking about this so much like people
03:42:17.900
appreciated this but like in one of his lectures jordan peterson says something like a woman a woman's no
03:42:25.100
is what built the world and like going back to like women have so much power as like gatekeepers and
03:42:30.460
their choice like sometimes it's easy to buy into like oh i'm getting validation by like saying yes
03:42:36.460
to all the guys that are like gonna sleep with me like saying yes to that is good for my ego but like
03:42:40.780
you have so much power and like saying no and even like sometimes girls will get in like the habit of
03:42:44.620
like they like i don't know like they feel like too polite to like turn guys down or whatever but
03:42:51.020
like remembering like it's women's like how much they can inspire and like motivate men that is like
03:42:57.740
has like caused like that's like a good thing and that's like a superpower that we have that like
03:43:03.420
even like contributes to society i don't even know like i think you forget that like women say no and
03:43:09.900
they like get raped like it like i'm just saying like i mean i don't need i don't really think it's
03:43:16.060
like fair to associate like what i said with like me condoning rape i didn't say that you said that
03:43:21.340
but i'm saying like you can still say no and like you can be put in like bad positions
03:43:27.020
you know it's a little statistic it's not just me like trying to like and i know that's not what we
03:43:31.500
meant yeah yeah we're not talking about consent here we're talking more so i think we're agreeing i'm
03:43:36.060
saying it's good when a woman says no like that's a good thing i know but sometimes it's like it's even
03:43:40.540
like hard for a woman to say no because sometimes it can be interpreted like another way but that's where
03:43:44.780
you have to like stand your ground but yeah i think jasmine was just saying is like as powerful
03:43:49.900
it is it as it is for women to be able to stand our ground and to say no she's just saying that
03:43:55.100
like we don't always have that choice and men can still take that power away from us whether we like
03:44:00.140
it or not that's all she was saying but okay i i think you guys are sort of going in a different
03:44:06.300
direction with what we are when we're saying about no i think we're going in a bit of a different
03:44:13.100
direction there mine is like a positive thing like i just feel like i like live the life of
03:44:17.900
like radical feminism like leaning into victimhood and it's just i don't know like i don't know if
03:44:23.980
it served me as like it was like intended to i think the way that you just explained everything
03:44:28.940
i can get behind that and i respect that but the way that andrew tate says those things it's in such a
03:44:34.940
demeaning manner where he's literally just degrading women and like making it seem like we're these
03:44:39.580
stupid sluts that just kind of run around with our coochies out which is not i wish that happens
03:44:45.580
by the way yeah don't we all brian women just run around with their coochies out and shit okay um
03:44:52.620
did you guys want to continue on with i think it's just like the matter of how it's said because like
03:44:57.260
brian i'm sure that you share views with tate as well but like i would not be coming on this podcast
03:45:02.620
and talking with you if you were talking to me the way that andrew tate talks about women
03:45:06.380
is the way he says it mm-hmm like everyone's entitled to their own opinion and that's fine
03:45:11.340
andrew tate can have those views but if you're going to say it in such a disrespectful manner
03:45:14.700
where you're like just completely objectifying women and like placing society's entire value of
03:45:21.180
women on like their promiscuity and whatever like that's where the issue comes at hand because like
03:45:26.860
you're allowed to have those views and you're allowed to think like women should be more conservative
03:45:31.580
and like blah blah blah but it's all about the way that you say it i think and i think that
03:45:35.340
andrew tate just the way that he says it and like it is obviously or like probably for the media and
03:45:41.260
to like hype it up and be controversial and get that attention but like me as a woman hearing him
03:45:46.380
talk like that it just is like disgusting to me he's definitely controversial
03:45:56.700
did did you want to come in i'm just i'm sorry i like did we watch like different videos i just like
03:46:03.180
don't know how like that one clip was like disgusting i like i don't know about that like
03:46:07.580
yeah it was like controversial it's like saying something like pretty radical but i don't know it
03:46:12.380
like went the same way like for guys like guys would have their body like i don't know about
03:46:16.220
we didn't watch different videos you just need to watch more of andrew tate yeah like
03:46:22.060
i don't like him watch more andrew tate videos like i don't like him because i was just like on a
03:46:27.180
drive to san diego and for some reason it took us eight hours to get there and the guys who were in my car
03:46:31.660
were just playing andrew tate the whole time and i was like semi listening and just the things he
03:46:37.100
was saying was just like so like out of pocket to be saying it's just like i don't even know where he
03:46:41.820
would come up with some of these things like i can't give an example because i don't remember but
03:46:46.060
i remember that they were just so strange like yeah it's like it's like hard to support like yes like
03:46:52.620
maybe andrew t has a few great points but it's hard to support him when he has so many things that are
03:46:57.420
damaging to women like how can you support someone like just because they've done a few good things
03:47:03.020
like he literally says some of the most misogynistic things like on the internet and like that clip i
03:47:09.100
don't think there was anything necessarily like too contra like too crazy about that clip like
03:47:14.060
that's not what we're talking about but maybe like because we've all watched more andrew tate it's
03:47:17.740
hard for you to judge him being like oh like why are you guys reacting that way but like
03:47:22.220
look up andrew tate like and then you can make your own like like look up andrew tate and compare
03:47:27.020
like and like see what he says and then look at that video again like it's different you know
03:47:33.180
what what did andrew tate say that was misogynistic
03:47:45.580
i don't know if that's a good question i mean just even saying like if women had
03:47:51.260
their body counts on their forehead like life would be so much better like it's our fault like
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don't you think us women would want to see men's body counts on their foreheads like it would make
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it a like hell of a lot easier to know whether i want to date a guy or not but like we don't have
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that same privilege why would men be able to have that privilege and why would it make it so much
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better for them and you could see if it went up like if you're in a relationship with him you could
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see if that went up like if he was cheating on you like i think like i would actually have been fine if
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he said that men and women should have that then it's like it's the fact that he's only saying
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that it's all on the women and i think women hold responsibility to these societal problems but so
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do men and it's like the same way you're like oh it's all men's fault like we're saying it's all
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men's fault like he's saying it's all women's fault like there needs to be a balance and like taking
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responsibility on both sides for it yeah i think that's yeah well i think he is being hyperbolic
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obviously there's certain things that that go wrong beyond what i think if you like look outwards
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in as far as what he's saying where everything starts so if everything starts at the individual
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level right and then you build to the family and then you build to the village and then you build
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to the city and then you build to the state and you keep going up so i what i think he's sort of
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getting at is promiscuity has led to the destruction of the nuclear family when you get rid of the nuclear
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family and well let me flip it and say well then it should be on men to not ever be with women that's
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promiscuous then women would have to change and not be promiscuous i don't think it works it can't
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someone has to be women are the gatekeepers for sex allegedly allegedly yeah like allegedly
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okay because y'all y'all have all made the convo with eliza sorry it's both let us not cut him off
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yeah he's getting mad at us no no i'm not no i'm not mad i'm not mad at all um the
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i think you asked earlier right what's the longest that you've made a guy wait for sex right
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women make men wait for sex it's not the other way around but men also like are willing to wait
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because like you know like you said it like makes means that she has a higher value so who created that
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standard really who created the standard what do you mean like if like i'm just saying like i'm
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trying to use like your double standard against you because i believe that it's both parties like
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both men and women need to change and you can't just say like women need to change and everything's
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going to be solved or women can't say men need to change it's all going to be so no i agree i think
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people need to change and i agree with that both men and women need to change but when we're
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speaking about sexual access that is something that women can that women control the reason like
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i make a guy wait is to show that he values me more than sex that's the reason why i make a man wait to
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be proven that like he's going to value me he's going to wait he's going to invest in me he wants
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to get to know me that's the reason why i wait whereas men won't make women wait for sex because
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that is their main priority usually well so it comes the thing is is that it sort of
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comes down to biology and evolution so men and women's historical sexual strategy
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has been very different for men biologically because men we can if we if we can sleep with
03:51:45.740
that many women we can get three women pregnant a day as a woman you can only get pregnant once every
03:51:54.300
nine months or whatever um so men our sexual strategy from an evolutionary biological
03:52:02.540
standpoint is to sleep with as many women as possible impregnate all of them can i make a
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comment so i'm a psychology major at ucsb and i actually like work in a lab that specializes in
03:52:15.900
human mating psychology and i've taken graduate level courses in this sure and that is incorrect
03:52:22.780
so based on like what like the general body of like research shows and evolutionary theory for this
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is that a male's defaults the human male's default strategy and the mating world is a long-term
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strategy granted it does allow for um promiscuity like it allows for cheating if another woman's
03:52:42.140
available but the default is not for human males at least from our understanding of like um
03:52:49.660
like mating like evolution at this point is like not that the default is sleep with as many women as
03:52:55.500
possible it's stay in like a the default strategy is a long-term relationship but it does allow for
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the literature does like grant that it allows for like if the opportunity arises to procreate with
03:53:08.380
another woman okay possible but i just want to clarify it's not have sex with as many women as
03:53:12.220
possible the trade-off is that your offspring are better off if you stick around with the
03:53:16.780
same woman for as long as possible but occasionally if if the if the option is presented to you you can
03:53:21.740
have like like sex with other people but just to clarify like what literature says on that well so
03:53:27.580
okay i haven't read the literature i've read some and maybe it can what okay i haven't read that
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literature what i've read sorry there's a truck going by i've taken a psych class too and that's
03:53:41.580
what it it's okay so what what i've read and perhaps we've read conflicting uh studies men's
03:53:50.060
sexual strategy is unlimited if they can get it unlimited access to unlimited sexuality women's sexual
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flies yes like in certain species yes but not not from what we see for humans because you also want
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because of the benefits the the trade-off benefits of staying with the same woman because your offspring
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are better off just because okay so human offspring take much more like care both parental care
03:54:17.180
to do well so i'm just saying and in certain species flies yes the more it is it is like a linear
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graph of like it's it's shown like the more the sexual strategy for um the males and other species
03:54:30.300
is usually as many as much sex with as many partners as possible maximizes their like you know
03:54:35.900
evolutionary benefit but it's just it's not the same for humans because like our often require a lot
03:54:40.460
of care raising a kid requires a lot of care so men have to be there okay so that's nurture though i'm
03:54:45.900
talking about nature nurture versus nature there's some species where there's life partners where
03:54:52.060
men like they like the male species stays with the women for their entire lifespan well i'm speaking
03:54:57.340
just about humans here well and you're well your facts are wrong but also so okay my maybe maybe i've
03:55:05.740
got it wrong but men's sexual strategy is if they can get it unlimited access to unlimited sexuality women's
03:55:13.900
sexual strategy is secure the best possible mate for long-term yes that's true for women's side
03:55:20.380
that's a thousand percent true that's that's definitely agreed upon but for men it isn't as many as
03:55:26.060
possible if you have like there's a point at which like his offspring will be most successful
03:55:32.060
if he sticks around and invests his resources in those offspring they will die without it like
03:55:36.860
they're much more likely to die without it so that's just one caveat but yes you're completely
03:55:40.220
right the sexual strategies of men and women and humans is different and there's evolutionary basis
03:55:45.260
for why a woman's goal should be securing and usually is securing the most desirable long-term
03:55:51.340
partner and that man is a bit more promiscuous well so i mean so i agree just want to like clarify
03:55:59.500
yeah i mean obviously if a man sticks around and provisions and provides for a woman that's going to
03:56:05.820
be better for his offspring certainly yeah i agree i agree it's better for his offspring it's better
03:56:11.980
for his evolution so evolutionarily that's how human nails evolved as their default sexual well
03:56:17.180
basically i mean what you have happening in well i mean you're basically making the argument for why
03:56:23.180
promiscuity is bad but which i don't think you disagree with but um what you have happening in
03:56:31.980
practice is women sleep women will sleep with the most attractive guy get the good dna and then
03:56:40.940
they'll turn towards the man who's the good provider and then he will pick up the slack for the alpha
03:56:49.100
i don't like that whole alpha beta male you know thing i i rarely ever bring it up in conversation but
03:56:56.700
women will get the good genes from the really hot attractive guy he he's not going to commit to her
03:57:03.500
then she's going to go look okay where's the where's the beta male for me to that will uh provide for
03:57:08.540
me and raise it's not that the con that she like has sex and has the kid and then finds the the
03:57:14.540
partner it's actually more like we can see that during a woman's fertile window like during the
03:57:18.300
time she's most fertile like in her menstrual cycle she's more likely to cheat and prioritizes like
03:57:23.660
good genes more in a certain time period so it we do always always also it's not like completely
03:57:28.860
romanticized we even see like evolutionarily there's like benefits for women to cheat as well
03:57:34.220
so they've already secured a long-term partner they might already have offspring with him if she's in a
03:57:38.140
certain part of her period where she's like most likely to like conceive children she'll be like
03:57:44.540
especially she'll be more she'll have like greater sexual desire and she'll like specifically be looking
03:57:49.180
for traits of like really good genes yep and then maintain the yeah so i mean yeah it's it's really
03:57:54.700
complex and interesting it's it's much more interesting than anything people even like realize
03:57:58.700
or would think well i mean society for thousands of years was set up towards monogamy and because that
03:58:06.300
that enabled one men who weren't let's say the alpha males to actually have access to uh
03:58:15.660
uh having a family but now that we've kind of done away with monogamy to some degree um and promiscuity is
03:58:24.620
elevated we are actually seeing a return to and this is there's that's why there's all these single
03:58:30.940
mothers and so it's actually a return to our sort of base instinctual uh patterns
03:58:45.660
which i think still favor like long term monogamy benefits both parties like if it
03:58:54.540
like it kind of is like the woman's not cheating on you so you know that the offspring that you're
03:58:59.660
raising is yours and then like it benefits the woman because she has a i would say monogamy benefits
03:59:04.940
children yeah and that's the point evolutionary so you can have your dna passed on and you can continue
03:59:11.580
like that's literally the whole point of having children like monogamy is fantastic for the
03:59:19.740
but what i'm saying is okay so if if given the option if a man could have his wife whatever have
03:59:27.340
his main chick and then also sleep with other women he would what are we i don't know what
03:59:33.820
we're talking it's late guys why don't we go yeah this might be our longest show ever so i think we
03:59:40.380
i do i'm i'm a little frazzled we've been going for a long time um should we wrap it up there guys um
03:59:47.020
okay cool cool cool last chance anyone any final thing okay cool um wait i love you mike davis
03:59:55.500
mike davis forever mike davis yeah uh mike davis i think i just also i think i don't know if you're
04:00:03.020
still in the chat i think i whitelisted you in our back end so you should be good to go um once this
04:00:10.460
truck pass i'll say good night yeah no it was a good it was a good panel you guys loved all you guys
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you guys were awesome um thank you for you coming back on let's definitely get i'd like to get all you
04:00:24.140
back on it was a good panel um we went very long sorry guys but i was trying to wrap it up but they
04:00:30.620
just kept wanting to talk about body no i'm kidding um no you guys were great so uh thank you guys for
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tuning in tonight we will be live again uh let's see tuesday at 7 p.m pacific but yeah thank you again
04:00:42.380
for watching you could have been doing anything else but you're here with me i appreciate that uh like
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the video and leave a comment on your way out for the algorithm big thank you to the fantastic panel
04:00:52.540
you guys were awesome super great tara you're super tara tara tara did i get it right the first
04:00:59.420
time yeah you did yeah you're super based you're a fucking legend let's definitely get you back
04:01:03.500
wait what does based mean i've only heard that this means you're a fucking legend okay you're a
04:01:07.740
fucking legend um cheyenne fucking legend jazz your dad's a fucking legend sweden ella
04:01:18.860
you didn't speak much swedish but you're still a fucking legend um izzy
04:01:25.820
i'm so tired also a legend yeah it's fucking late we're wrapping up but uh yeah thank you
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thank you to the panel thanks for watching we will uh see you guys next time have a good night guys