Dating Talk #26
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3 hours and 36 minutes
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167.29271
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223
Summary
In this episode of Whatever We Do, we have our first guest on the show, Sarah! Sarah is a 22-year-old law student at Cal State Long Beach. We talk about how she got into law school, what she's studying for, and how she plans to pursue her career in the legal field.
Transcript
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La donna è mobile, ha il piume al vento, muta d'accento e di pensiero.
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Sempre un'amabile, legge addroviso, impianto inriso e menzognero.
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La donna è mobile, ha il piume al vento, muta d'accento e di pensiero.
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La donna è mobile, ha il piume al vento, muta d'accento e di pensiero.
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La donna è mobile, ha il piume al vento, muta d'accento e di pensiero.
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And I think we're looking for people to help with timestamps.
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We're looking for someone to help out with clips if you're down, if you're like editing
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Have you guys been watching House of the Dragon?
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Also in the chat after the dragons, I want to know what city are you guys watching in?
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Anyways, we're going to have, oh, we also need a like counter.
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I think if you guys know what I mean, because everybody just says like all the time on the
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So I think we need a like counter that updates every time.
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Anyways, maybe XDM, Entertainment Me, Ian Clasper, you guys, maybe Virx, you guys can
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It's probably, I mean, you might break your keyboards.
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But anyways, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.
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So please tell us your name, age, occupation, and your school major.
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I am a surgical tech major and what was the other one?
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Just name, age, occupation, and your school major.
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But you're a, you're, so you're not a surgical tech yet.
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And is that through Santa Barbara City College?
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So the best school that I found around here was San Joaquin Valley College.
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Can we get some school emojis in the chat for her?
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And my major was sports management and communications.
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I do business formation, trademarks, and estate planning right now.
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Guys, if you need an attorney in Santa Barbara, hit her up.
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And I take online classes at Cal State Long Beach.
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My major is healthcare business administration.
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I'm just going to have a master's degree in business law.
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So, you would technically be a lawyer, correct?
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You can be a lawyer, but not be an attorney, right?
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So, you can have your JD, but you're not actually an attorney unless you pass the bar.
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But aren't there some scenarios where, for example, you could practice corporate law, right?
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Any attorneys in the chat, I think there's something where you can...
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If you graduate from law school, you're an attorney or you're a lawyer, but you can't...
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You can't represent people in court, but you could, for example, advise a company.
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You can't represent a company on legal matters.
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If I get my master's in legal studies, I cannot legally give, like, legal advice for a company.
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So, I was offered a spot in the doctor's program when I applied, which is awesome, but I just
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I don't think litigation is something that I'm going to enjoy.
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I think that if I work alongside a business, doing, like, business operations or working
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in HR for a big corporation, I'd be a lot happier with, like, the social aspect and,
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It's still, like, a challenging job, but just not as stressful as being, like, in a lawyer
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But, like, right now, like, I'm looking at, it's, like, the business operations kind of
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field, which would be under HR, under a corporation.
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I'm 20, and I am in cosmetology, but I graduate next week, and I start in my new salon to be
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In, like, in a couple months, in, like, six months, yeah.
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I don't know if he's in the chat, but he's been asking for you to come back, so it finally
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So, everyone's Instagrams are in the description.
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We're going to go back around the table, so please tell us your current relationship status,
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Are you on any date, and are you on any dating apps?
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Um, I am on Tinder, uh, for women only, but that's, like, you know, other than that,
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So, yeah, there's a story there, but, um, yeah, I'm, uh, recently divorced.
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Ah, you're, you're what's, I think it's called a dependapotamus.
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Um, so we're actually in the process of getting divorced now.
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So probably like about within this month, or last month.
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And how long have you guys been separated then?
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Uh, we've been separated for about six months now.
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I'd say, but like mentally, probably about a year.
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But I feel like his demeanor about how to go about things was pretty rough.
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Um, there was a lot of bumps in the road to get to where we are now.
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He was my high school sweetheart, so we were together for a long time before we decided
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to get married, but I think overall I was just way too young to make that decision.
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Okay, so then, what, is it irreconcilable differences?
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What was the, we got the attorney shaking around here.
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Um, so basically, it was just, we, he was on deployment a lot.
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Obviously, we fell out of touch, um, but for the most part, the military really changed him.
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You guys were married, you don't know where he...
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Well, out in the Middle East, like, he's on a ship, so they go to, like...
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The longest deployment that he went on was about nine months.
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From his stories, he was out in the Middle East.
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I wish I knew more, but I kind of am glad that I don't.
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I mean, he was sent off for some point in time, but I don't know.
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Like, you asked me anything about his job back when we were there.
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Chat, I'm not super familiar with the Navy, but if you're in the Navy, can you see, like, combat?
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I'm not going to defend it or kind of just go with it, but that's what he said.
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Originally, we were going to have a much larger panel, but we had like...
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Originally, we were going to have a panel of like nine, but we had...
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I want to tell the story before we continue on with this.
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We had three girls flake, and then we had two girls flake.
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And I don't know if you guys want to tell the story, but basically what happened is, is they were waiting outside.
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You know, we have the girls stage for a few minutes, and then we bring them in to the building.
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And apparently, two of the girls that were going to be on the show walked by them, and I think it was like a gang rivalry or something.
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But they walked by them and were like, yo, we got some beef with these chicks, and then they just bailed.
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But yeah, she flaked, because apparently there's some like family vendetta between, I don't know, going back generations between the families.
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She said it was like, what did she say, minor drama or some shit?
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Yeah, and the girls, like these girls have these three right here.
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They have no fucking idea who these two girls are.
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But the two girls were like, fucking Santa Barbara.
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Initially, we're going to have a much larger panel.
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But yeah, sorry, guys, that we started a bit late, because we had like last minute flakes.
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It's always a mess with scheduling these people.
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But credit to the people that showed up, and we're on time.
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So, current relationship status, longest relationship, and are you on any dating apps?
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Longest relationship was seven years, and I'm on Hinge right now.
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And so, but without joking about it, so you're not interested in getting married?
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No, I feel like the only reason I would get married is if I had kids, or if we're planning
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But you don't have like any desire to have kids, or?
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If it happens, it happens, but I'm not going to force it.
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Current relationship status, longest relationship, and are you on a dating app?
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Um, I'm engaged, and we've been together for five years.
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That's the longest relationship, and no, I'm not on any dating apps.
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I, my longest relationship was four years, um, and I'm obviously not on any dating apps.
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So that I, because Liv and Liz, it's so easy to mess it up.
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I'm the only, like, the only time I get called Olivia is by my mother, when she's, like, yelling at me.
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Um, and then I'm not on any dating apps whatsoever.
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So, we're gonna go around last little thing here.
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And, and just to be clear, like, you can believe in equality and women's rights without being
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The definition of feminism is that men and women are equal.
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Like, it's very simply, you know, I think that there's different kinds of enthusiasm for
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But feminism, like, in and of itself, like, straight up definition is just equality.
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But what, what would you say women or feminists are fighting for?
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Because if, if equality means, if, if the equality they're fighting for comes to the detriment
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or comes at the detriment of women, feminists will not seek it.
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So that's why I say you can be, believe in equality and women's rights without being
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I think, I think I, what I'm referring to is a difference in definition.
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But I would not consider myself a feminist, if that makes sense.
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I think just people have different perceptions of what feminism entails.
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And like, as for me, feminism is just like bridging the gap, like creating equality.
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And as far as like extremism goes, like that's a different conversation.
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But okay, I don't know how far I want to go into the feminist thing here.
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But isn't the, so the core tenet of feminism is the patriarchy theory.
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Do you agree in the, do you believe in the patriarchy theory?
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That society has been set up by men for the benefit of men to the disadvantage of women.
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I think that's extremist because you're, you're basically painting all men as the oppressor
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I think it's just understanding history in the sense of where things originated and where
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And I don't think that society today can totally reflect upon the way things were 10 years ago,
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And I think that we're always making progress towards the right direction.
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But I don't, I wouldn't deny the fact that the foundation of our country isn't based upon
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So the founding fathers there, it was a cabal, a conspiracy.
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I don't know how deep we want to get into the feminism stuff.
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How about if we want, we can touch back on it a little later on in the discussion, but
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with the caveat that I just provided, we'll go around the table.
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So if do you identify as a feminist to an extent, to a degree, yeah.
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I don't know if I'm just not close enough, but somebody, people in the chat were saying
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So number two, um, yeah, guys, one, one in the chat for Mike sounds a bit low.
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I think you might also just be speaking a bit softly too.
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Maybe just boost, boost your, your voice a little bit, but, uh, we can maybe touch back
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Cause I want to get more into dating stuff to begin with.
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So before I get into some of my questions, we have like a couple of videos to react to.
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Is there anything dating related that you want?
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Before I do that, let me do super chats really quick.
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Yo, Mike Davis, thank you for the $10 soup chat.
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By the way, I don't know if you see that right there.
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Mike Davis, please just let us know if you acknowledge notice me.
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If she does hop on the OF, I'll throw her some paper, but I won't cover the hair, the therapy.
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But if she starts in only fans, it, it's in the works.
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Um, Alejandro Figueroa Figueroa with the $10 soup chat.
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Asked them how they felt about women being added to the selective service program, the
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law that requires them to sign up for the draft once they turn 18.
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Um, this kind of touches into the whole discussion about feminism and rights and stuff and equality.
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And the reason I, okay, we'll touch on it really quick just because of the soup chat.
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So the reason I said that feminism doesn't fight for true equality, it fights for women's rights or women's advantage or some preferential treatment where it stands to benefit women.
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The key example is in the selective service program.
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So in today's day and age, in 2022, women are not subject to military conscription.
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So, and military conscription is never going to go away.
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So we don't hear feminists ever arguing, women should be drafted too.
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We don't even hear feminists really arguing for the draft to be done away with, which by the way, will never, there's, you can't get rid of the draft because it's plausible that in some scenario a draft could be necessary.
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So, yeah, do you guys want to respond to, um, yeah, I'll respond.
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I think that, um, you have to be, correct me if I'm wrong.
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You have to be, you have to meet certain physical standards to be in the military to an extent.
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Like you have to meet certain like requirements.
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So if you enlist and it varies based off of the branch, I mean, you have the U S Marines, you have the coast guard, you have the air force, you have the army.
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Um, so just enlisting women can enlist, uh, the physical requirements, like to pass the physical tests or whatever.
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The, it's much, the standards are much lower for women than for men.
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Um, but when it comes to the draft, so conscription, women are exempt from the draft.
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I was just going to refer to like, I think so long as I think it has more to do with like the physical requirement.
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Cause I think once you, I'm not against women necessarily being drafted.
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I think though, that now you're going to double your pool of your options for drafting.
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And I think that women just probably aren't going to pass the physical in the same sense that men would.
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So I think that inevitably there would be less women for that reason.
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And I think also you have to be physically well, again, if I'm correct, to be in the, any, to serve at all.
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And I think that women could probably get away with more physical exemptions to not be drafted.
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So I, I don't, I don't disagree with you that I think you're trying to say that men are generally speaking, physically stronger than women.
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Well, the, the fact, I mean, the men's standards already are higher.
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For example, you have to, I think, complete a race in a shorter period of time.
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You have to be able to do more, uh, pushups, pull-ups, sit-ups, stuff like that.
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Um, but we're speaking specifically about military conscription and the draft.
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So men are required at the age of 18 to register for the draft.
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If they don't, it's a felony, potentially $250, $250,000 fine.
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You lose access to federal, uh, student, uh, student aid.
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If, if you're not registered for the draft as a man, there's some negative consequences.
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You also can't apply for certain federal jobs or something like that.
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I wouldn't, I wouldn't say that women should be excluded from the draft solely because they're
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But I think if the draft were to occur between men and women, I think standards would change.
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And I think inevitably there would be less women for that reason.
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I mean, I don't feel like if you're going for feminism and everything, I don't think
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you can really pick and choose what benefits you and what doesn't.
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Feminists should be subject or sorry, not feminists.
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Women should be subject to military conscription.
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But I think like hardcore feminists are also like, yeah, I want to be, I know they're saying
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Like I, I want the same rights, but people who are more like, like, I'm like, no, I want
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Like, I don't want to be in the draft, but I want this.
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So that goes into someone said, someone said they wouldn't survive a day in basic.
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Now, granted, I would say being subject to the draft would be something that comes to
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the, or sorry guys, I drank a fucking energy drink.
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So if women were subject to the draft, even though that would be, that would level things
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out between men and women, that would be equality that would be considered equality, but coming
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Thus feminists are not going to be out in the streets, marching, fighting, Hey, fucking
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draft us so we can go be in the trenches and fucking die.
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If you're actually a feminist, you're going to be going to obviously, yes, what benefits
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women, but at the same time, if you really want equality, that's your quality.
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Anyways, we're going to move on from that, but Alejandra, thank you for the $10 soup chat.
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All these chicks believe in feminism to a degree, the degree it benefits them.
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That is none of these self-proclaimed boss bitches want to get near the dirty work that
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The last thing I would add with, um, the military, and this would be for both people who are women
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who are enlisted and also, um, if the draft did ever open up to women, the second they
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You'd see a whole lot of women getting pregnant.
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A lot of women would intentionally be getting knocked up because if you're pregnant, they're
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So anyways, um, Mike Davis, thank you for the $10 soup chat.
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And yes, definitely as far as the, the jobs go and stuff, when it comes to feminism, it's
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They're looking at the cushy top positions, the air conditioned office jobs.
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There's not a lot of feminists arguing that there should be like women on oil rigs and
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I think I'd rather have been a, in 1914, I think I would have rather been a 18 year
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Thank you, uh, for your continued membership in the, uh, chapter.
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Younger men should treat ladies as the diamonds.
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I think that puts you in the 99th percentile of when it comes to height.
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Moving on from the incredibly toxic discussion.
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So going back to what I was saying, I want to open it up to you guys.
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Is there anything dating related you want to get off your chest?
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Maybe there's a trend in dating that annoys you men are pissing you off in some way.
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You want some advice when it comes to men are dating.
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So, I mean, I'm pretty new to dating, so I wouldn't really think that I have any issues
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So you, are you, have you seen any, have you seen anybody since the separation with
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Cause like, could that shit potentially fuck up your divorce if you're like seeing?
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Um, no, I mean, we're separated, so I really don't feel like there would be a need to hide
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anything, but for the most part, I mean, we're separated.
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So yeah, I heard that maybe that could be an issue.
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And I don't know if you can weigh on in on this, that maybe that's more so with children
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So if you get a new partner and you're cohabitating with a new partner that could have a potential
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impact when it comes to alimony, which is bogus by the way, but yeah, it could, it could make
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I'm not a divorce attorney, but I have friends that are going through it right now.
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I see a lot of like relationship and like marriage therapists that happen to be single
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and it's like, how do you reconcile being single, but also advising people on marriage
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and well, anyways, I'm, that's not your purview, but I've noticed that on dating apps.
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No, I mean, sometimes that's why they're good at it though.
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They've been through that and they know what's up, so I suppose, I suppose.
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I mean, yeah, I, a couple of things to some girls, but it's girls, plural.
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Has there been any guys since your ex or is it just all girls?
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I feel like it's just, I, in my relationship, I was never able to explore my sexuality.
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I feel like I really came to that conclusion that I was bisexual in my relationship.
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I mean, I was together with him for, since I was 16, 15.
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It was just a realization that I came, kind of came to, and I wasn't able to explore that
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I feel like I might've brought it up one time, but he didn't.
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He says that he was protective, but he was really being possessive.
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On one hand, that's kind of like, I think a lot of guys would be stoked if their girlfriend
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So I think that's, like, pretty fair if a guy's like, no, I don't want to involve other
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Not really religious, but he was very old school in that way.
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He was brought up kind of just one person type of thing.
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We grew up differently, so there's a lot of differences with our mentality, and I think
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I didn't really get into that before we got married, which was another thing.
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So would you consider yourself bi-curious or you're for sure bi?
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And before your relationship with your husband, did you explore her at all?
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I didn't really get to explore what I was with him.
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I mean, I haven't really, I mean, I've been saying that I've talked to them, but I haven't
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I mean, like I said, it's recent, but so I don't know.
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I really, I don't think that I wanted to overlap with anything.
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I just feel like that's the most, that's the messiest it can get.
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But you, and do you live in San Bernardino or no?
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I'm there, like, four days out of the week, and then I come back for the weekend.
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Really quick before we move on, we got Z Corp Alpha with a couple super chats here.
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Z Corp Alpha, thank you for the $10 super chat.
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I don't know if Z Corp is, I don't know if he's trolling or if he's a fucking Chad, but
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And then we got this one, Z Corp Alpha thing for the $10 super chat.
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Which of the ladies at the table would you spoil?
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So anything dating related you want to get off your chest?
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Um, I just recently got on Hinge, so, um, I feel like I kind of quit and then get back
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Um, the one thing I noticed for myself is that a lot of dudes are intimidated by me because
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So you've had experiences of, have they overtly told you that, Hey, I'm, um, some, some,
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Um, so like sometimes I won't even put on my profile that I'm an attorney because.
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What, can you give us an example of a time when.
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And then you revealed to him, Hey, I'm an attorney.
00:40:16.000
They pull back or, um, it'll be like overtly bragging on their end about, you know, what
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Um, I've, I've literally had, um, another attorney guy tell me that like he, he wouldn't
00:40:47.320
Like he wouldn't hire you because you're too attractive.
00:40:56.140
I mean, I don't think, I don't think being attractive as a protected class, but could
00:41:02.560
that be deemed some sort of, I don't, I mean, you're an attorney.
00:41:08.360
You tell us, is that, I mean, seriously, you got a case.
00:41:11.460
That's why I, you're an employment attorney, aren't you?
00:41:18.000
So that's why I basically went into business for myself.
00:41:21.480
Like I, I tried to get jobs at first and it wasn't working.
00:41:28.960
And what, it wasn't working because all the, the partners in the firms wanted to sleep with
00:41:36.540
I mean, I mean, I don't know about that, but it's a very male dominated field.
00:41:44.540
I thought attorneys were pretty, I thought it was pretty 50, 50.
00:42:13.200
Apparently there's more litigation attorneys that are, is there an earthquake going on?
00:42:28.140
Let's go back to the whole men are intimidated by you because of your job.
00:42:40.660
Um, I, well, for one, I feel like there's a lot of, um, like stereotypes attached to me
00:42:50.420
They think that I'm like loaded and have a lot of money and then not the case.
00:43:01.540
You got to pay, you got to pay back the, the loans, you know, or the debt or whatever.
00:43:06.860
Well, I mean, uh, there's definitely quite a differences in terms of attorney income.
00:43:17.180
You know, I mean, you have like, you have public defenders all the way to top tier litigation
00:43:27.140
I think they do pretty good mergers and acquisition.
00:43:31.580
Um, so, but I think attorneys are up there in terms of, uh, prestige a little bit.
00:43:43.520
Like it's kind of, well, on one end it's kind of a disrespected profession because a lot of
00:43:48.660
people have this, uh, stereotype of attorneys as kind of being snakes or, you know, whatever.
00:43:54.640
Um, but then it's, it's sort of up there a little bit with doctors in so far as it's
00:44:02.980
kind of, I think it's a respected career field.
00:44:17.400
Let me ask, would you date a guy who's below you?
00:44:24.140
So you don't have like, you don't have a preference in terms of, Hey, I'd want to date
00:44:42.060
If you have money coming in, if you're employed, then yeah.
00:44:57.560
Um, pull the mic, pull the mic closer towards you.
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Let me do some super chats and I'll, I'll repeat the question.
00:45:14.580
All the ladies tonight are beautiful inside the souls of affection.
00:45:25.940
Honestly, her ex husband sounds like he escaped a lifetime of headaches.
00:45:33.540
He secured the divorce while he's still a broke bum and doesn't have to relinquish a bag.
00:45:48.500
She doesn't want to take anything that he doesn't have.
00:45:53.620
Like, I don't want to take anything of him, anything of him.
00:45:59.340
Like, it ended on good terms at first, but then I found out some sketchy shit about him.
00:46:32.420
There, there's a lot to, uh, to unpack, but basically.
00:46:36.340
Did you get some people in the chat are asking, did you get his GI bill?
00:46:42.860
I have never taken anything from him, anything that he's given me.
00:46:55.360
I was a phlebotomist before I moved over there.
00:47:06.420
I just really think that it wasn't, not that I wasn't enough for him because I know my self-worth,
00:47:14.540
but it was just a lot of, I guess I was checked out of the relationship because of a lot that's
00:47:20.520
happened and a lot, the, the way that he treated me.
00:47:23.200
So from that point on, I feel like he looked to someone else for his comfort and that's,
00:47:32.640
So you're doing surgery tech up in Bakersfield ish and you're also a phlebotomist.
00:47:44.780
But you're not like blood, the side of blood or gory stuff.
00:47:55.740
Uh, Virx, thank you for the, uh, I think that's your first soup chat, man.
00:48:05.580
So going on to you, anything dating related that you want to get off your chest trend in
00:48:13.840
So maybe before you met, you met your fiance men are pissed.
00:48:17.540
So something that men pissed you off in some way before that, I guess a trend that I just
00:48:23.220
see, and I was a little bit shocked to see recently on Tik TOK and like people, friends
00:48:32.520
I don't know if this is just say it people, people's high body count, like high ass body
00:48:39.520
I'm talking like 50 plus, it's just very high and like, hate me.
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I'm just like, that's a lot of people who like, what are you spreading?
00:49:01.020
Do you know any girls personally that have a high body count?
00:49:03.760
Like people that I know of, but not that I, not that I'm close with.
00:49:43.660
I'm not like, I mean, I guess if that's what you want to do, you can do that.
00:49:48.040
But yeah, that is, that, that's quite a bit of people.
00:49:58.260
I don't think that body count is relevant to a person, um, like, like, they're, like,
00:50:09.080
who they are, but I also think that high body counts, high body counts kind of correlate
00:50:17.720
with behavior that I don't personally agree with.
00:50:31.360
No, like, I would, I would never ask someone what their body count was.
00:50:34.080
I would never judge someone based upon their body count, but I think there's a correlation
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between high body counts and behavior of certain girls.
00:50:40.800
And I think that, that kind of goes hand in hand, and, but I don't think I would necessarily
00:50:45.160
judge someone solely based upon their body count.
00:50:52.580
So you two are friends, but you kind of disagree on this one.
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Like, I would, if she wouldn't ask someone she's dating what their body count is, I would
00:51:04.180
Because I'm not going to be in a relationship with you if you've had sex with 30 plus women.
00:51:13.960
Wait, so maybe I'm making some assumptions here, but your fiance, was that your first partner?
00:51:28.220
Um, I mean, do you, but I don't know why you need to like expose the number.
00:51:39.720
So the fact that you would even get online and tell people that, like, that's weird to
00:51:46.860
It's weird that these people on TikTok are saying, here's my body count.
00:51:54.040
I don't think it's a good flex for anyone to be like, here's my, men or women.
00:51:58.020
And I don't think it's a good flex to be like, here's my hundred person body count.
00:52:05.300
It is what it is kind of their body count, but at the same time, it's nothing to brag
00:52:10.200
I guess let me reframe the question a little bit here.
00:52:12.280
So typically I think you don't hear this so much from women, but you hear men say, I don't
00:52:20.180
I don't want to date a woman who's promiscuous.
00:52:22.020
I don't want to date a woman with a high body count.
00:52:34.180
But we could, I mean, so should body count matter?
00:52:38.320
Do you take issue with a guy taking issue with a woman's body count?
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So what do I have a problem with if he has a problem with mine?
00:52:48.960
Or just if he has a problem with generally speaking with women who have a high body count, like
00:52:53.940
he wouldn't want to date a girl who has a high body count.
00:53:01.980
I wouldn't have an issue because everybody has their preference.
00:53:17.180
So you two said, yes, you would have an issue if a guy had an issue with it.
00:53:21.180
So I assume you guys think body count shouldn't matter then?
00:53:35.780
I think it doesn't matter in the sense of why are we keeping track?
00:53:40.280
Like mine is, it's not a big number at all, but I just don't think that it's kind of the
00:53:50.900
principle of like, you don't share that kind of information.
00:53:56.640
But I mean, if it doesn't matter, shouldn't that just be something like, oh, I don't mind.
00:54:04.520
If it doesn't matter, shouldn't that just be like, you should be fine.
00:54:07.120
And just, I just think it shouldn't be relevant at all.
00:54:10.720
Well, in terms of your judgment and for a partner.
00:54:18.240
Like, I don't, I don't know my boyfriend's body count and he does not know mine, but you
00:54:25.980
Um, I'm, I would only have an issue with it if, if it was like a one-sided thing, you
00:54:37.380
Oh, I just said, I don't know why people would say their number.
00:54:51.040
Um, I mean, I personally don't have a problem with sharing my number.
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Cause like if people have a problem with it, then that's your preference.
00:55:08.340
Um, so I don't know how much I want to go into body count really quick.
00:55:13.260
I mean, we've talked about it so many times on the show.
00:55:15.680
Um, but I can tell you that for a lot of men, like body counts pretty important.
00:55:19.840
Like most men, we don't want to date a girl with a high body count.
00:55:27.820
Like, I think women generally tend to care a bit less about it, but I don't think there's
00:55:33.300
If a woman also has the same exact standards as a guy, if a woman says, just like you said,
00:55:38.280
Hey, I wouldn't want to date a guy who's a player who slept with a lot of women.
00:55:44.820
I don't think a lot of women care to the degree that men care for a variety of reasons.
00:55:51.640
None of you really seem particularly interested on debating that topic anyways.
00:56:18.240
Um, so did you get to go as far as something you want to get off your chest when it comes
00:56:30.040
Well, you're, you're, uh, you've got like a fiance, right?
00:57:10.880
But are you just, when you say doing me, you just being a fuck boy?
00:57:30.280
Probably because it's just like, I'm not really interested in like settling down a hundred
00:57:42.000
And also like, as far as like issues with dating and stuff goes, I'm, I just turned 20.
00:57:48.460
So it's like, I'm young and I've only experienced such like a certain like realm of the dating
00:57:55.620
world because I still have, I mean, in guessing that I'm not going to be married soon.
00:58:01.080
Like I still have a ways to go to like, I've experienced it all.
00:58:20.140
And if somebody, if I meet somebody, that's, that's who I meet.
00:58:25.760
Is there like, I think there's a brewing romance going on there.
00:58:41.820
If Mike Davis offered to fly you out to, I think he lives in North Carolina.
00:58:53.860
He's, he's the head honcho of Burger King in North Carolina.
00:59:00.700
If you want, what's the premier, do you guys know what the premier food item at Burger King is?
00:59:09.940
He'll get you as many Whoppers as you want on the fucking house.
00:59:16.500
You, not only will you fly live out, you'll hook her up with the Whoppers.
00:59:34.520
All guys that are dateable are bangable, but not all guys that are bangable are dateable.
00:59:40.640
You think there's ever like intersection between bangable and dateable?
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What type of guy would you say are bangable but not dateable?
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I feel like the guys with tattoos are bangable but not dateable.
00:59:51.960
From what I've experienced, because a girl loves guys with tattoos, I really wanted to
01:00:02.380
When it came down to like committing, they had every reason not to do it.
01:00:13.220
Some guys are bangable but not dateable in the sense that, yeah, let's just get this over
01:00:19.640
of the let's fuck, but at the same time, like, I don't want to be with you for like a long
01:00:42.840
If you're on the same page, I mean, then it is what it is.
01:00:46.820
But I think what she's saying is there are guys that are bangable but the girl doesn't
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And maybe they're preemptively getting the impression that this guy's not going to commit
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I think that there's like, I think men are generally easy and that if you wanted to sleep
01:01:37.320
And I think that most women have standards that surpass someone just being bangable.
01:01:45.660
So like, if you wanted to, you could sleep with someone that was like attractive, but not
01:01:56.480
I think that it, like, I think it goes both ways because I think with guys and girls, since
01:02:03.900
some people are at different like stages in their lives, some girls only want to fuck
01:02:09.700
And then there's other people who want to date and settle down.
01:02:13.200
So there is that fine line for sure, but it could definitely go both ways.
01:02:17.640
I feel like, but yeah, for guys, there is like dateable and fuckable or bangable.
01:02:27.500
And so how do you guys know, like what category to put the guys in?
01:02:32.640
Like what, what would make a guy bangable, but not dateable?
01:02:43.580
Um, I mean, I guess just the way that they act or how they treat you.
01:02:51.260
Cause like, usually you can tell, like if you guys have hooked up the past couple of times
01:02:55.060
or whatever, and that's usually what they only like hit you up for, or, you know, just,
01:03:03.740
Are you going on a first date with them or are you just hooking up with them?
01:03:07.780
Because if they're mean to the waiter, if they're rude, if they're not, if they don't
01:03:12.160
tip well, if they're not holding out the door for you, if they don't pick you up, if
01:03:23.000
So you're going to bang a guy, even if he's rude to the waiter.
01:03:29.240
If someone's rude to the waiter, that's a, I'm not even, I don't even want to talk.
01:03:33.020
If you, if you just want, if you just want to hook up and you're like feeling it and
01:03:37.900
you just in the mood, you know what I'm saying?
01:03:45.940
I feel like it would be, but I feel like in the moment and if, I don't know, I feel
01:03:51.100
like there can be deal breakers that aren't turnoffs, you know?
01:04:00.380
So you're, would you be more attracted to the guy who's a dick?
01:04:03.500
Cause he's just going to be a dick in bed and treat you like shit.
01:04:28.120
Well, so I was asking what are some traits that you would want to put a guy in the bangable
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I think we were going off you and then did you want to continue with your take?
01:04:51.440
Someone you would like, you know, your mom would like, you know?
01:05:00.720
Well, so my take on this is, is that, and I think this is where women can get into some
01:05:06.300
trouble is that guys who are bangable for you aren't.
01:05:14.100
So women can sleep with guys who are out of their league, who are more attractive than
01:05:18.520
them because men will sleep with and date across and down.
01:05:22.340
So a guy who's attractive, like he might be down to just hook up with you a couple of
01:05:28.260
He'll sleep with you, but he will never commit to you.
01:05:31.340
So men, we really have like a pretty strong fun only and then relationship material, marriage
01:05:39.840
And we might not even tell you which category you're in.
01:05:42.380
You might not even know because some guys are just going to play you.
01:05:45.240
They're going to be like, they might even do the romantic shit just to keep you around
01:05:49.220
Um, but there will be certain behaviors or just your level of attractiveness where it's
01:05:54.920
just, she's just being, I mean, using their terms.
01:05:58.120
These are not terms I wouldn't, I would use, but the bangable care category and then the
01:06:03.060
So where women get into trouble is you can sleep with men who are more attractive than
01:06:08.540
you, but those men will never commit to you because you're too hot.
01:06:26.800
So you're, she's, you're, you're just, you're just going to bang.
01:06:33.840
I mean, it's pretty rare for a guy to be able to sleep up.
01:06:36.880
That's pretty rare unless he's bringing money or status.
01:06:40.560
If he's not bringing those like, or he's incredibly charismatic.
01:06:53.740
So I mean, if a guy fucking lucks out and he secures a woman who's more attractive than
01:06:58.780
he is, he's probably going to put her in the, in the dateable category, unless she has some
01:07:04.360
other red flags where it's like, she's not her characteristics are not deserving of long
01:07:10.900
Like maybe she's fucking crazy under those scenarios.
01:07:14.540
Then he's probably not going to want to take her serious.
01:07:18.020
But so what happens is, and this is the kind of the big issue with the dating meta is that
01:07:22.260
especially with dating apps, Tinder, for example, um, women are very easily.
01:07:26.860
So what you see happening on Tinder, women are chasing after the top 10 or 20% of men on
01:07:34.400
So you have 80, 90% of women chasing after 10, 20% of men.
01:07:39.380
Those 10, 20% of men are just going to run through all those chicks, never commit to any
01:07:45.180
But because those women think I can get sex from that guy, that means I'm either, they're
01:07:51.240
going to view themselves as, as attractive as that guy.
01:07:53.460
And thus I'm deserving of a relationship from a guy of that caliber.
01:07:57.540
But the fact of the matter is, is that women can sleep with men who are more attractive
01:08:14.380
Um, unless you guys want to respond, you're, if you disagree, by the way, if you feel free
01:08:20.300
to disagree, if you, if you're like, Brian, that's bullshit, what are you talking about?
01:08:25.180
I just, I just think men and women are different.
01:08:27.320
I don't think men, or I don't think women go for looks as much as men do.
01:08:30.920
So I think looks don't really define whether someone's like bangable or dank or dateable.
01:08:35.500
I actually think women care more about looks and women judge men more harshly on looks
01:08:42.380
I don't think women judge men more harshly on looks than do men judge women on looks.
01:08:47.960
No, I think women judge women on looks more than men judge women on looks, but I don't
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I agree with what she said that men are harsher judges of looks.
01:09:02.120
We know that men are more like they're men care more about looks, but women judge men
01:09:20.480
So in order, in order for a man to be physically attractive to women, he has to meet more metrics.
01:09:29.560
Men are much more lenient in their, in their attractiveness, physical attractiveness judgments
01:09:39.380
Haven't you seen those TikTok videos where it's like, those guys are like, would you
01:09:44.480
And all the girls are like, I would date you now.
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And then if you go to the same thing to a guy, the response isn't the same at all.
01:09:56.280
And then you ask a woman and she's like, no, like, you don't have to have a six pack.
01:10:03.180
And not only that, but I feel like when you go through a dating app, I feel like most women
01:10:06.920
also don't just like, they see looks, of course, because that's your first impression.
01:10:12.020
But I feel like more women also look at the characteristics.
01:10:16.200
And obviously, because women are going to be like, I don't want to get murdered.
01:10:25.040
And they'll actually want to know what he's about.
01:10:28.280
You know, now that I think about it, I agree with you.
01:10:35.060
Like, girls can be as harsh as men can sometimes.
01:10:39.880
So are we talking about dating or are we talking about banging?
01:10:45.240
I think maybe women care slightly less about looks when it comes to, I mean, looks, I think,
01:10:53.840
for both men or women are sort of the first thing.
01:11:00.760
So that's, I think, for both men and women, that's important for both.
01:11:04.980
So, you know, like, you could have a fantastic guy, but if he's not meeting some of women's
01:11:13.020
metrics for what she finds attractive in a partner, it's just never going to go anywhere.
01:11:18.400
Unless he's super high status, super financially well-off, or incredibly charismatic.
01:11:28.400
Anyways, so I'll give you a couple of examples for why I think women rate men or judge men more
01:11:43.440
And these physical metrics are out of men's control.
01:11:51.360
So the three things that are out of men's control that women care, I think, care quite substantially
01:12:03.000
Most women want to date a man who's taller than them.
01:12:09.580
So if a man is balding, most women, if a man has a receding hairline, most women have, do
01:12:16.740
have a preference, a strong preference for men with a full head of hair.
01:12:20.340
Maybe that changes when they're in their 40s or 50s.
01:12:28.760
There's medications I guess they can take, but whatever.
01:12:33.300
If a man's penis size is not adequate, that's probably going to be a deal breaker for a lot
01:12:41.700
And then also, I mean, you could, the fuck, penis performance.
01:12:48.680
So whereas men, in terms of judging women, a lot of the things men care about in women,
01:12:58.320
The primary thing men care about when it comes to women is weight.
01:13:01.560
And weight is something for both men and women that you have absolute control over, your
01:13:10.980
I mean, with people, for both men and women that have PCOS or anything like that, any type
01:13:17.120
of medical condition where it's hard to lose that weight.
01:13:30.420
So it's kind of common, but it, it affects the.
01:13:44.640
It affects, I know, all I know is that it affects something to where.
01:13:50.280
Well, PCOS is something, I believe it only happens in women, polycystic ovary syndrome.
01:13:58.020
So it affects your ovaries, it affects your hormones.
01:14:01.520
And hormones in return affect weight loss and acne and hair health.
01:14:10.180
Okay, but, but the exception does not make the rule.
01:14:16.260
But that's something that you have to take into consideration when you're making the rule.
01:14:26.860
Like a lot, and a lot of them are like go undiagnosed.
01:14:47.000
I mean, it says more than 200,000 US cases per year.
01:14:59.780
So are you saying that people, women who have PCOS are incapable of losing weight?
01:15:09.660
But the thing is, is you're saying that it's something that they have easily control of.
01:15:16.560
Broadly speaking, both men and women, broadly speaking, are 100% in control of their weight.
01:15:30.420
That makes it a bit harder for me to lose weight.
01:15:34.940
However, if I'm really strict with my diet, it ultimately comes down to calories in, calories out.
01:15:43.840
Okay, but broadly speaking, overwhelmingly, weight is something that is in people's control.
01:15:53.500
So men care about weight, but that's under women's control.
01:16:01.300
But I feel like also when you get older, women get, in the nicest way possible, uglier.
01:16:12.340
Like, I feel like once you get older, women, like, I feel like, you know how men get, like,
01:16:22.480
I'm just saying, like, it's, like, I feel like women, like, you have, you have children,
01:16:34.740
But a man doesn't have a child to take care of.
01:16:37.300
And, like, your child is living off of you, like, depends on you.
01:16:41.400
So you're saying that women fall easier in the category of losing themselves.
01:16:46.240
I would say, I would say that, I mean, I don't know which one of you said it, not all men age gracefully.
01:16:53.080
Like, there's definitely examples of guys who are much better looking at 20 than they are at 30.
01:17:00.900
I do think maybe there is a slight higher proportion of men that they do age a bit more gracefully.
01:17:07.920
But, yeah, I mean, but I think overall, I think as you age, typically, like...
01:17:14.900
I think it's just women put more into their looks so early on that, like, later, kind of just, like, fall.
01:17:21.360
Like, okay, for example, like, girls who go to the tanning beds a lot as they're younger.
01:17:26.360
Or, like, girls who do a bunch of stuff to their hair when they're younger.
01:17:32.520
Their hair's not the healthiest when they're older.
01:17:34.460
So I think it's just because we put more into our looks now that later...
01:17:40.020
You kind of have to either keep up with it or you just let it go.
01:17:45.300
I guess to bring it back, we were talking about who grades who more harshly, right?
01:17:52.560
So my position is that women judge men more harshly than do men judge women when it comes to physical appearance.
01:18:02.840
And I don't know if you guys don't care about height, you don't care about penis size,
01:18:06.380
you'll have a guy with a micropenis or a small penis, whatever.
01:18:09.340
You're okay with dating a guy who's balding, receding hairline.
01:18:12.420
But those are three physical traits that are completely out of men's control.
01:18:36.400
Like, not every woman has, like, the same body style.
01:18:39.420
Well, actually, on that, I would say there is a wider, when it comes to body fat percentage, right?
01:18:48.560
So you have, like, model skinny chick, thin woman, all the way to thick with three Cs.
01:18:56.800
So I think the, there's actually a wider range of body types that men find attractive than do women find attractive in men.
01:19:08.040
So men will find, like, the thin chick attractive.
01:19:19.220
So, whereas women, I think the, the acceptable body fat percentage range is wider for women than it is for men.
01:19:36.440
And I think, obviously, women of bigger size aren't going to necessarily go after someone who's smaller.
01:19:50.920
So we're more aware of men who are, like, chubby chasers.
01:19:54.720
Like, these phrases that you're talking about that women don't necessarily have.
01:19:58.060
Because it's not, like, a topic for us so much.
01:20:08.220
I, but I, I guess the, the way I would paint it is, is that the, okay, if you think of, like, the ideal female body versus the ideal male body.
01:20:23.480
For a man to have the ideal, like, maybe I shouldn't say ideal, but I should say, like, deemed as attractive by a vast majority of the opposite sex.
01:20:34.720
For a man to have, like, sort of a very attractive body, he's probably going to have to have stepped foot into a gym.
01:20:44.580
He's going to have to have some degree of muscle.
01:20:47.300
I think you ask most women, they'd say, yeah, he's going to have to be muscular to some degree.
01:20:52.340
Not, like, super jacked, fake bodybuilder type on steroids.
01:20:56.020
But some degree of muscular, muscular development.
01:20:59.580
Whereas a woman can have a very attractive body and have never stepped foot in a gym.
01:21:06.200
You can have a very attractive body as a woman and never trained a day in your life.
01:21:15.220
Because women's looks are more geared towards their sexuality, their sexual organs, and men's are more related to their muscles.
01:21:21.980
So, like, even, like, a blue-collar guy that's never stepped foot in the gym could still be seen as attracted by a woman because he looks capable, I would say.
01:21:30.480
Yeah, I mean, you can develop yourself, I guess, through sports.
01:21:34.080
Yeah, like, I don't think the gym is, like, the key here.
01:21:36.800
But I think that if you're going the route of, like, ideal body, women's has more to do with what they would look like naked.
01:21:52.620
Like, men are focused on, like, boobs, butt, curve.
01:22:00.800
But, like, guys, like, what are you going to do?
01:22:14.480
I think you did that the very first time I was ever on the podcast, too.
01:22:19.860
I mean, I kind of have to disagree because I work out.
01:22:27.220
And I've noticed a lot of changes in myself that I've...
01:22:30.640
Like, my boobs have gotten bigger since I started at day one.
01:22:36.220
But, yes, in a way, it's just, like, there are...
01:22:39.000
There are some things that, like, you can't fix.
01:22:43.700
And there is a wider range for women versus men and all that.
01:22:48.560
Here's another one that I just want to touch on.
01:23:04.760
I think having a physical disability is a bigger advantage for a man than it is for a woman.
01:23:12.960
So, like, if you're in a wheelchair as a dude, I think you're more fucked than a woman who's in a wheelchair.
01:23:29.900
Chat, would you hook up with a hot chick in a wheelchair?
01:23:40.880
But, like, a dude in a wheelchair, y'all going to be, like, probably not.
01:23:48.320
But you can go to a strip club or something like that and get a little action.
01:23:56.260
I was laughing at you because you were like, probably not.
01:24:00.620
So, you wouldn't hook up with a guy in a wheelchair.
01:24:07.840
Sexual function for a guy in a wheelchair might be scuffed.
01:24:10.620
But a woman, she can still fuck even if she's got...
01:24:26.320
She could still want the experience of intimacy.
01:24:55.260
Men who are not neurotypical, for example, they have autism or Asperger's,
01:25:02.100
are going to struggle far more in dating than women who are not neurotypical.
01:25:06.900
Well, if we're talking autism in particular, autistic women are more socially capable than
01:25:18.060
I also heard that women are less likely to be diagnosed with it, too, because it maybe presents itself differently, but they still have autism.
01:25:27.980
Men who are not neurotypical, but men who are not neurotypical are going to struggle a lot more when it comes to dating.
01:25:38.560
Let's do some super chats, unless you guys want to respond.
01:25:46.660
I know we agree, but I need some questions where we disagree.
01:25:56.020
Let me get these super chats because we're backed up here.
01:26:04.860
I want this money to go straight to Liv and throw in the little twerk, too.
01:26:10.180
No Burger Kings, but I'll get her as many Whoppers as she wants if I can get a piece of cake.
01:26:27.500
Listen, he's capping about the whole no Burger King thing.
01:26:32.440
Mike Davis, I know you own a couple Burger Kings.
01:26:48.200
So, Mike Davis, do you want a fit check on just – Liv, fit check.
01:26:56.980
I came straight from the gym, so this is my –
01:27:14.280
I think he wants – you're probably going to have to do a little –
01:27:32.600
But Mike Davis, yo, thank you for the big $100 soup chat.
01:27:35.680
I will be sure to get Liv some whoppers here in town.
01:27:48.540
Cali girls are the harshest judges and have crazy high standards for men when they have nothing to offer.
01:27:56.360
The more small-town, vibey area you go, the less these standards become more reasonable.
01:28:05.800
I mean, it's not vibey when, you know, rent for a bedroom is $2,000.
01:28:11.780
So usually, you know, what we don't have to offer is time when we're working.
01:28:33.960
This is my cousin, by the way, who commented that.
01:29:04.820
Mike Davis, Alejandro, you're both in North Carolina.
01:29:07.880
I don't know if Mike Davis is actually in – I don't know if he's there.
01:29:12.500
Well, when he's back on whatever, let's – anyway, whatever.
01:29:14.880
Anyways, it's not bad to have high standards, and we have a lot to offer.
01:29:53.140
Hey, but Alejandro, thank you for the big $20 soup chat, man.
01:29:56.400
If you ever want to come on the show, man, and you're back in town.
01:30:10.060
It's that women find wrinkles and ruggedness as masculine and attractive.
01:30:22.340
I think that's why society makes us believe that we have to go and get Botox and filler
01:31:10.000
Isn't it like scientifically like that men commit suicide more than women?
01:31:15.800
Well, yeah, because it isn't accepted for them to be able to talk about stuff more than women.
01:31:28.080
I think the – as far as who takes antidepressants, I think it's skewed a bit more towards women.
01:31:48.060
I don't know off the top of my head, but it depends.
01:32:06.540
If I could have you pull up the next video, we are going to react.
01:32:40.280
But, like, I'm not saying now, but, like, say when you're 25, 30, do you want kids?
01:32:54.700
Okay, we're going to watch a video by Andrew Tate, so hopefully that we can convince Attorney
01:33:05.060
Reese, at Attorney Reese on Instagram for all your will and last testament – what is
01:33:14.740
And, by the way, she does it – she doesn't even type that shit.
01:33:31.340
Wait, I'll get this last super chat before we go – we will go – pen and quill?
01:33:39.500
Yeah, she does will and testaments in pen and quill.
01:33:43.040
Mike Davis with the $10 soup chat, mildly satisfactory.
01:33:46.600
Liv be displaying that fatty on IG like it's another Tuesday and then be showing me her
01:33:58.060
By the way, Mike Davis did previously announce that he would invest in her OnlyFans.
01:34:11.340
Liv, you're going to make a cameo on the whatever OnlyFans?
01:34:19.300
I'm probably – I'm probably never going to do anything with it, but I do have it.
01:34:26.060
My life without children is – is vapious and it's inane and it's pointless.
01:34:35.340
And you may sit here and think that your career matters, but the truth is that your job will
01:34:39.340
fire you at a whim and don't give a – don't give a solitary shit.
01:34:42.020
And when you're 52 and you're past it with no grandchildren in a house by yourself and
01:34:48.640
all your friends have grandchildren in this beautiful life and you're sitting there by
01:34:52.260
yourself, do you think the fact that you can afford a few extra Gucci bags is going to
01:34:59.840
My grandmother had nine children because there was my father and eight more.
01:35:04.180
They all had a bunch of kids, blah, blah, blah.
01:35:06.300
I stood there and I looked at my 93-year-old grandmother and there was a room, a whole room
01:35:10.760
full with maybe 70 people that came from that one woman.
01:35:21.240
Nobody asked how many times she went to the club.
01:35:23.600
Nobody asked if she had time to go to festivals.
01:35:26.220
You had 70 sentient beings, including myself, full of life from one woman who dedicated
01:35:35.600
And if you sit here and genuinely think that you're going to work your ass off through
01:35:38.400
your fertile years and by the age of 54, you're not going to be suicidal alone with
01:35:52.280
All these women are sitting here saying, oh no, I don't want to listen to a man.
01:35:54.760
I don't want kids to – I just want to watch Sex in the City and drink martinis and go
01:36:03.820
I never said I didn't want kids to – oh, now they didn't say it, everyone.
01:36:11.360
The happiest women on earth have children and a man who's paying the bills and their
01:36:19.460
Your mothers, ask your own mother, do you regret having me?
01:36:24.560
You're the best thing that ever happened to me.
01:36:26.620
So now you're going to sit here and you're going to end your own bloodline?
01:36:29.140
All your ancestors were out there surrounded by saber-toothed fucking tigers trying to
01:36:34.220
survive on the streets out there in caveman days just to get to the final end where we
01:36:39.180
have all the medical care and you can live in a nice warm house for your fucking selfish
01:36:45.320
I'm too busy in the fucking strip club or going to fucking Relorca to have a fucking
01:36:52.800
It's absolutely insulting to your entire bloodline.
01:36:55.800
Everything, everyone above you has ever done and struggled for all the times your grandparents
01:37:00.980
went to work, but they didn't feel like it just for you to exist for your selfish ass
01:37:05.580
to say, no, me and my passions and my dreams and my shit drawings and my Instagram page
01:37:19.180
That's a clip from their podcast with Andrew Tate.
01:37:26.760
I mean, I say if you want to have kids and if that's the life that you want, then yeah,
01:37:31.800
But if you want to live for yourself and have your own career and have something going for
01:37:36.380
I mean, it's really up to the person's preference, but you want to dedicate your life to your kids?
01:37:47.140
So, but okay, you didn't want kids or you were on the fence a little bit about having kids.
01:37:51.460
Yeah, like I'm, he has a pretty strong take on that.
01:38:02.360
For me, I am kind of like, I don't want it to be like a broken family type thing.
01:38:10.280
So if I don't have something solid, I'm not going to force the issue of kids being in
01:38:19.840
And also some people straight up, some women are not meant to have kids.
01:38:24.520
Like I know a few that, you know, they just are supposed to be an aunt and that's where
01:38:36.960
I think some people, like you said, they know like, Hey, I wouldn't be a good mom.
01:38:45.900
Um, I'm like, and he's saying, but he also, he does make a good point.
01:38:53.240
Maybe one day, maybe probably this podcast is ruining my chances of having, just cause
01:38:59.220
I'm pissing off a bunch of people with my sometimes intentionally exaggerated takes,
01:39:07.500
but, um, but, uh, you know, what does your life look like when you're 60 and you don't
01:39:14.980
have, your parents are dead, you don't have a family, you don't have a partner, you don't
01:39:21.820
I start thinking, I'm like, wow, that would be kind of lonely.
01:39:27.600
Cause it's when you're young, it's like, I got friends and I can do this and my career
01:39:34.240
But then like you're 60, you've made all the money when you're, when you're sick, like
01:39:45.440
The purpose of having kids to have them basically care for you when you're older, just basically
01:39:51.860
to benefit yourself, to not be bored in the future.
01:39:57.500
I, I, it shouldn't be so much a selfish thing, but I mean, those would be some of the negative
01:40:03.180
consequences if you didn't have kids is, you know, who do you lean on?
01:40:09.280
And if, if you don't have a family, then that's kind of a very lonely existence.
01:40:17.100
I mean, I think people have, you know, I think to some degree people have children for selfish
01:40:23.040
Like, and that selfish reason might be, I want to have kids.
01:40:34.100
I mean, if that's what you want, what do you mean to have kids?
01:40:38.420
You know, if you want to have kids for those reasons, for those reasons, I mean, I don't
01:40:42.700
know, by all means each of their own, but well, what, what are, what do you think would
01:40:47.680
be more admirable reasons for someone to want kids?
01:40:53.900
Like what, what are the admirable reasons someone would want to have children?
01:40:58.640
It would always come back to selfishness to some degree, wouldn't it?
01:41:07.720
No, that's not, well, that's not, but can you give me some admirable reasons why someone
01:41:13.140
would have children to give them a better life than you had?
01:41:21.400
Like to, I guess it would kind of be a little bit selfish, but to live vicariously through
01:41:28.460
them, you know, like give them everything that you couldn't have, um, to give them like
01:41:34.040
the family that you want, give them like the opportunities that you didn't have to a
01:41:40.540
That could be like one of the reasons, but, but is that a reason to want to have children?
01:41:47.700
It could be like healing to your, to your, to your inner child, but then that would bring
01:41:54.760
I'm trying to think of like a, I think would be to raise, um, a better generation than we
01:42:02.600
came from just for the sole purpose of the future.
01:42:06.520
So I think wanting to be a good parent in a good financial situation or with a good
01:42:11.360
partner so you can put better people in the world.
01:42:21.180
I mean, and I guess there's also just people have a biological evolutionary drive to want
01:42:26.680
So there might not even necessarily be a rhyme or reason for why someone wants to have children
01:42:31.580
beyond just, I just want to have kids in the same way that people want their next meal
01:42:38.580
Like there is a biological drive to want to have children.
01:42:44.000
So, but yeah, I can't really think of like admirable reasons.
01:42:51.780
I think a lot of the reasons you could construe them as selfish.
01:42:56.900
So more, I mean, I don't think it's selfish to say, Hey, I want to have a family.
01:43:15.540
So did any, did you guys get your chance to give a reaction to the video?
01:43:29.680
No, because I would have been bouncing off the walls if I took pre-workout.
01:43:38.820
I think that, uh, I understand where he's coming from.
01:43:42.780
Whereas like when you're older, you might feel lonely, but at the same time, yeah, peeps,
01:43:48.660
there's some people out there who are definitely not wired to be parents.
01:43:53.720
Um, and then again, there's other people who can't have kids.
01:44:03.880
But, you know, like sometimes it's out of, it's out of the question for them and other
01:44:12.100
But either way, you know, there's always going to be a reason whether like why they didn't
01:44:19.700
I don't think it's just because like, oh, I'm not having kids because I want to be lonely
01:44:25.960
Um, they probably thought it through and they're like, I don't want kids for this certain reason
01:44:36.140
Uh, I'm trying to think if I, so you guys were like, she's gone to the bathroom though.
01:44:40.280
But you guys were asking, you want more controversial discussion?
01:44:53.820
So I'm thinking we could pull up or let me see if we have any soup chats that came in.
01:45:04.200
Um, and I think guys, we're going to maybe wrap up in 30 minutes.
01:45:09.400
I shouldn't, I shouldn't preemptively say that because I always end up going a little
01:45:35.720
Uh, we did dateable, we did Andrew Tate, scroll up, up, up, up.
01:45:45.300
We'll talk until all the girls are here before we do a video reaction.
01:46:02.220
I mean, I'm somewhat, I feel like I'm somewhat drawn to that.
01:46:07.200
Um, just because, not because I like, not because I like an asshole, but I feel like
01:46:15.460
because I do have a thicker skin, I do, like, it's, I don't take it as personal, so some
01:46:25.000
of those, like, asshole, like, things are, like, funny to me, or, I don't know how to
01:46:29.580
describe it, really, but it's just, like, I don't like them, like, extremely nice, either,
01:46:37.820
Like, I like that fine line between, like, asshole, but can still treat me right.
01:46:47.680
And you guys all said, no, you don't like assholes?
01:46:50.500
Actually, Liv, before you leave, hold on, let me, uh, let me pull this up, then we'll get
01:46:54.940
Stifler, ask the ladies to rate themselves on a scale of one to ten, really quick.
01:47:00.000
Uh, do you guys rate yourself on a scale of one to ten?
01:47:11.980
Because I feel like, I don't know, I don't know.
01:47:15.620
If I would have raped myself, I'd probably be an eight.
01:48:02.280
I don't think I'm, like, a perfect ten by any means, but.
01:48:11.600
And you said we should just view ourselves as ten.
01:48:16.580
I don't think you should ever, like, lower yourself.
01:48:23.600
Like, make yourself feel like you're not a ten.
01:48:27.620
Like, you should always feel like you're a ten.
01:48:41.540
Like, to ask someone what they rate themselves?
01:48:45.100
I hate that everyone here didn't say ten, though.
01:48:57.380
I think in your, you should always see yourself as a ten.
01:49:00.960
So, you're saying we should always carry the confidence.
01:49:04.380
The confidence as a girl who thinks she's a ten.
01:49:09.740
I think everyone should believe themselves to be a ten.
01:49:11.380
I think every guy should even be like, I'm that dude.
01:49:16.120
So, then everyone's just, every single human on earth
01:49:25.020
If you're going to ask me, if you're going to ask someone.
01:49:29.060
Okay, literally what you rate yourself on a scale of one to ten.
01:49:51.200
Everyone should, everyone should perceive them as a ten.
01:49:59.280
She's saying you should carry yourself as a ten.
01:50:01.840
and I would, I would never tell anyone that I'm like,
01:50:20.500
If I'm a ten, I should be able to get Brad Pitt, right?
01:50:23.820
Well, if Brad Pitt wants to, then Brad Pitt wants to.
01:50:32.380
Brad Pitt likes stumpy average women, apparently.
01:50:36.360
But I think, I think just what I'm getting at is like,
01:51:08.680
wouldn't be the same person that she would view as a ten,
01:51:14.160
Eric, can you pull up a tab on the Windows page?
01:51:30.540
It's the tab, the Instagram tab with the girls.
01:51:34.400
You're going to have to probably go over a few.
01:51:44.920
So these are what I consider exceptionally attractive women.
01:51:53.940
Okay, so these are women that I consider like nine or tens.
01:52:00.380
So, if every woman's a ten, what are, what are these?
01:52:08.740
I'm trying to, who, who's that shitty female comedian?
01:52:20.720
I think that Amy Schumer should perceive herself as a ten, but my.
01:52:25.060
What would you rate her on a scale of one to ten?
01:52:28.360
I just, I wouldn't downrate another woman like that.
01:52:59.560
So, so, so, like, referring to that comment, like how she plans to improve herself, I think
01:53:05.280
that there's, I think those are two different, I think they're two different things.
01:53:19.940
Kiki's the only ten at this table as far as I'm concerned.
01:53:30.440
So you said you want more controversial questions.
01:53:34.640
So there's two things I can think of that could be controversial.
01:53:37.640
We can talk about age gaps in dating amongst adults.
01:53:49.760
We didn't go super deep into body count, though.
01:54:06.620
Would you guys prefer talking about age, age gaps or body count?
01:54:16.100
A couple times before and I've, we've gotten pretty deep into body count.
01:54:21.560
Scoot over just a tad just so you're more in frame.
01:54:25.480
So I would rather do the age, but I'm okay with whatever.
01:54:29.820
So I'm trying to, you, you intentionally want me to trigger, trigger you is what you're saying.
01:54:43.540
And I'm using the term women very specifically because every time I talk about this, some girl
01:54:48.900
at the panel wants to say, you're talking about no 18 and over, right?
01:55:06.640
It sucks, but like that's a, you're, that's men are geared.
01:55:11.640
There was actually something that I read recently that there was, that there's some sort of science
01:55:18.620
behind why men are more attracted to younger women and there's science behind it.
01:55:27.920
There's a biological evolutionary reason for it.
01:55:32.500
I think that it relates to femininity and also relating to the biological thing.
01:55:37.160
I think, um, like there's this innate thing in men's brain that relates to like childbearing.
01:55:43.860
Like you wouldn't necessarily want to, um, wife a woman that wasn't physically healthy
01:55:50.100
looking because you assume like you want a healthy woman to carry your kids like wider
01:55:53.760
Like that's the thing because of childbearing reasons.
01:55:57.560
And also women have a limited time period in which they can get pregnant.
01:56:01.320
So, you know, so a woman who's 45, let's say you want to start a family, you want to
01:56:06.200
have kids, a woman who's 45, the likelihood that she can get pregnant.
01:56:12.880
Not have it be a miscarriage, high, you know, higher incidence of birth defects.
01:56:18.780
Woman who's 45, she's not a great bet if you want to start a family.
01:56:24.600
So you might be looking towards the woman who's 35 and if you're, then you're going to start
01:56:30.820
So yeah, you guys made some good points, but the, so men are higher, hardwired to find
01:56:40.180
women who are youthful, attractive for fertility reasons, for other reasons.
01:56:47.100
So part of it's tied to body count because a woman who's younger has probably slept with
01:56:56.300
Well, if you're young, when you're 18, you're seen as more like pure and stuff like that.
01:57:05.480
No, I know some, I know some young women that have been ran through, but, um, have been what?
01:57:13.540
I think that's, that's the term the kids are using these days.
01:57:21.980
Look, there's 19 year old women that have slept with a hundred guys, right?
01:57:28.440
So a younger woman is more likely to have a lower body count.
01:57:32.940
And if you look at any given woman, chances are, I mean, her body count when she's 20 compared
01:57:40.880
to when she's 30, any woman you look at like her, she's going to have more partners, obviously
01:57:49.760
So now there are some women that are 30 that have a low body count.
01:57:56.500
And there are some women who are 18, their first semester of, you know, their first freshman
01:58:06.760
I feel like that was a good segue to get the body count question that you're taking.
01:58:12.940
But did everyone like, did anyone want to give their take on the age thing?
01:58:16.160
Like, do you, for example, would you take issue with a guy who's 30 who wants to date a woman
01:58:38.880
So do you date a guy in like his early 30s, for example?
01:58:46.580
If I wasn't, if I didn't meet my fiance, I, it was, with the information that I know now,
01:58:54.400
I would definitely be looking for somebody in like their mid-20s to late-20s.
01:59:19.320
I mean, for me, it's like I watched my parents have a big age gap, and it's cool for a little
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Like, my mom is 13 years younger, 13, 14 years younger.
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It was like, it was, they were both a little bit older.
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I think my mom was in her, like, mid-20s and my dad was in his, like, early 30s.
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Are you talking, her parents are the same thing?
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No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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And my dad, like, as my dad got older, obviously, he was just, like, slowing down a little bit.
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My mom was still, like, running marathons, um, doing all this stuff.
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And a big part was, like, you know, he's had issues, like, with his, like, heart and everything.
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But just the age is, like, you see one start slowing down while the other one is still trying to go, if that makes sense.
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And it's just, like, they both come from different times.
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Like, watching my mom's parent style versus my dad's parent style is very different because they are from a bigger gap of a generation.
02:01:11.880
Can we bring his portrait over here to the table?
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Mike Davis is a honorary member of the panel tonight.
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And then I'll attempt to say something offensive so the girls can yell at me.
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When you carry yourself as a 10 but not actually a 10, that's called being narcissistic.
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I think that everyone views different people as 10s, and obviously we have our own perceptions,
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but I'm not going to bring anyone else down, and that includes myself.
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Who, can I ask you, do you have like a celebrity crush?
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Like who's like an insanely attractive celebrity?
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I think if Michael B. Jordan looked at me and went, she's a 10, then yeah.
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But if Michael B. Jordan looked at me and was like, she's an 8.
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But that's his, that's just his, what is so frustrating about this?
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I would give myself like a 6, 6.5, maybe 6.9 on a good day.
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If I grow my beard out a little bit, you know, I got to lose a couple pounds, you know.
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Um, I don't think I can get a Victoria's Secret model where I'm at right now.
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Uh, I could, we, we pulled up all those girls, right?
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I'm not charismatic enough to land any of those girls.
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I'm trying to improve myself maybe one day, maybe.
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But even then, um, so I guess the point I'm trying to make is in order for you to be able,
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I mean, you, you've got a long-term boyfriend, right?
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But I guess the point I'm trying to make is in order for you to be realistic in the
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dating marketplace, in the relationship marketplace, you need to have a reasonable self-assessment
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Well, I think that I can still perceive people as out of my league, like Michael B. Jordan,
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but that doesn't necessarily mean that I would make myself feel bad about that.
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It's just not something that I would like fixate on.
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I hope you don't mind that I'm digging on this question.
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The delusion on this panel is most definitely a 10 out of 10.
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Thank you, Devon Jackson for the $10 soup chat.
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Devon Jackson also happens to own a couple chain of Burger King restaurants.
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I don't know why everyone, all my viewers are franchisees.
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Would the ladies on the panel accept a man that used to pay for sex on a regular basis,
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Let's say he paid for 30 escorts over five years.
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We can go around the panel really quick on that.
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Would you have an issue with, I mean, dating a guy who slept with escorts previously?
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Only because, I mean, if you have to, I mean, I don't know, if you really have to go that
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down and dirty to pay for it, I don't know, that just says something about you, I think.
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He was incredibly honest with you, and he said, hey, listen, you're my partner, I want
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to be totally, or going to be my partner, I don't know, I want to be totally upfront
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with you, I did this in my past, I want you to know everything about me.
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I don't think I'd be on the same level or wavelength as someone who's paying for sex.
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I think that that would gross me out, but I also think, like I said previously, that's
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definitely like a, behavior like that relates to other behavior in a person that I would
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I think it would kind of gross me out a little bit.
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I'd probably be, not concerned, but like question it a little bit, but at the same time, if this
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is like years later, and they've tested, and they're clean, and it's over with, I'm sure
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But, um, I mean, I feel like a guy who does it for five years doesn't, isn't looking to
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Usually, like, if they can afford it and they can get it, I'm, why would they stop?
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I think, uh, Devon Jackson is setting up his next point here.
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Women with high body counts have habits, views, and dispositions that I wouldn't want
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the mother of my children imparting onto my daughter.
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And I think the whole thing with, uh, the reason he brought up this one is women will
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But yet, if we ask this question, well, what about a guy who, he has a sexual past, and
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it involves sleeping with a, with escorts, with prostitutes, all of a sudden, women are
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like, well, hold on, actually, your sexual past does matter.
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Mike Davis with the $10 soup chat, strawberry hair with the tits, out, okay, is talking like
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By the way, I want to say Mike Davis is our resident roaster.
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Mike Davis, do you have anything you want to say to Sarah?
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I think that's Mike Davis's native tongue, I think.
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Do you want to shoot, shoot some shots back at Mike Davis?
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Something about a mass genocide going on in your brain.
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I think we're just on a different wavelength, Mike.
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Like, I think you're a little, I don't want to say insecure, but I don't.
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I just think that, like, it's just a confidence thing.
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I just want, I want to perceive myself as a 10.
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Like, if you are someone who doesn't have any standards when it comes to sleeping with people,
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You're going to be a little more, how do I say it?
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And, like, my life has been so abundant ever since.
02:10:32.080
How did the panel feel about women in the modern day joining the workforce fully now?
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A large driver of this change in the labor force is due to single incomes not being enough to support a family.
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So, I mean, like, women in the workforce, I feel, I mean, I feel like, I don't really understand, like, what the question, how do we feel about women working too now, or?
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And, Biza, apologies if this isn't really getting at what you want.
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So, in the past, you used to be able to raise a family off just one income, and that income typically was the man's.
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That, in today's day and age, is no longer the case.
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People need two incomes, basically, to raise a family.
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You know, now it's really quite an exceptional privilege for, I think, a woman to be a stay-at-home wife.
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Just because the economic realities are, it's just, you can't really do that anymore unless you're a very, very high earner.
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And, so, whereas in the past, like, you could have a minimum wage job and support, I don't know, that must have been in the 50s or some shit, but you could support a family on a minimum wage job.
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Maybe not, actually, it might have been minimum wage, but, so I guess, I don't know if that helps prompt you at all.
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Yeah, I think that it's also location of where you're deciding to raise a family.
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Because, you know, if you try to, a lot of people are leaving California strictly for the reason that they can't own a house, their house is being foreclosed.
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Like, just for reasons of expenses, I think there's more expenses coming into the world now.
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Not to get, like, political, but, like, you know, with different.
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If you decide to be, no, I'm just saying, I'm just saying, like, surgeries, parents supporting their children's surgeries.
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Just, there's more expenses that are coming into this world.
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I'm saying that now moms and dads, they both need to work.
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They, we all need to work, just because there are a lot more expenses that are having to be covered now, more so than further back.
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How many, what, I don't disagree with you that there's, like, the, the transgender thing going on, but, like, isn't that a really small percentage of people?
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No, I'm just saying, I'm saying worldwide, there's just, or now, like, this time and age, there's a lot more expenses to cover, whether it be that or other things.
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Versus, like, back then, where it was just a simple, you know, you get your groceries.
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You get your groceries, you come home, and that's your groceries for a month, and then you guys are set.
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Now, there's such a wide range of things that are being paid for, have to be paid for, just, you know.
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And with COVID hitting, especially, I feel like that put a lot more, yeah, put a lot more pressure on families who had a single income, having to bring in two incomes.
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Even some families' kids have to bring in the income, too.
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It's, like, once the kid is able to go to work, they're going to have to go to work to help bring food on the table.
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I know when I was younger, I was doing modeling, and a lot of my modeling gigs were, like, helping pay for things until my mom got a lot more successful.
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I didn't do my labia-plasty bit, but, um, how dare you, Azam?
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The whole, you know how, like, some women are shamed if they have, like, a large labia?
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Yeah, the Audis, like, I think that's fucked up.
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If, like, there's all kinds of, like, fucked up names guys have for that.
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Roast beef, Arby's, Wizard Sleeve, Beef Curtains.
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I actually have a nonprofit organization called the American Network Against Labia-Polasty.
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We actually do need an attorney if you're, like, down to help us.
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Do you think you could give us, like, 10 hours for free?
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It's a grassroots movement for, like, basically supporting women so they don't feel self-conscious
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It's, yeah, it is unfortunate that women are shamed if they have a large labia.
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I think that really goes for anything with looks.
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I mean, there's nothing you can change about that, just the way that you really can't change
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Sorry, there are 10,000 surgeries a year for women to, like, mutilate themselves.
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So, you really have the statistics on all of this?
02:17:38.120
Okay, so, how did we get to the labia place-y thing?
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We were talking about, like, wages and, like, or prices and what we have to pay for now,
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and then the surgeries got brought up, and then that got brought up.
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And then somebody super chat about it, and you got upset.
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Did you guys want to come in on this, or not so much?
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I think everybody should have multiple income streams.
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We shouldn't shame women for their labia, right?
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I don't think we should shame men if they've got, like, a small peen.
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You've said, like, small dick energy before, right?
02:19:10.860
Testamentary just means, like, after you're dead, it goes into effect.
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So, I want to be preserved so they can bring me back so I could start this podcast in, like, the year 3000.
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By the way, I'm going to be doing an interview with the CEO of Alcor Life Extension.
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One in the chat if you're going to be frozen along with me.
02:20:15.540
Wouldn't you have to, like, be frozen before you die?
02:20:22.820
But, um, so they basically, if you die in a car crash, you're fucked.
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What they do is they send a team to be on standby.
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As soon as a doctor pronounces you dead, they're by your bedside, and then they fucking freeze you.
02:20:52.500
But, like, if you're on hospice and you only have a couple days to live, whenever you're, like, alive again, don't you only have a couple days to live from there?
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Okay, so basically the idea of this is, right now we don't have the technology to...
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But, if we preserve you, especially your brain, that's the most important.
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Jesus, chat's going to think I'm fucking crazy.
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They, if they have the scientific advancement, the technology to reanimate you, they can rebuild your body.
02:21:51.180
Wouldn't their body pick up where they left off when it comes to...
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And they inject something into you so you're not, like, getting super frostbite.
02:22:04.800
Like, there is some degree of they inject something into you or, I don't know, the entire process.
02:22:10.360
But, and they freeze you, they might freeze you for a thousand years.
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And they will, basically, this company will go on and on until it reaches a point where you can be brought back to life.
02:22:26.280
And they can basically put you back into a 25-year-old body.
02:22:29.920
But, do you know there was just a head transplant done, like, maybe two or three years ago on a paraplegic?
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I don't know if I didn't catch up if it was successful, but I know it was getting done.
02:22:59.240
Oh, you were talking about that they're going to be the CEO who's going to be the guest star here.
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Did everyone get to give their take on this one?
02:23:18.440
So, we'll watch one more video, then we're going to wrap up here pretty soon.
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Do you have a final thought, question, or theme that you want to talk about?
02:23:33.540
I know you guys are dying to ask me for dating advice because I'm such an expert in dating.
02:23:39.620
I feel like there should have been more that we would have argued about.
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Like, age gap, I mean, you guys didn't really push back on the age gap thing.
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Is there something y'all want to fucking argue about?
02:24:18.780
You didn't even remember my name half the time.
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But I mention that every time you said my name wrong.
02:24:28.080
Somebody in the chat said Liz, just because you were saying Liz.
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Is there anything I've said that you take issue with?
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Some of the questions have been more towards...
02:25:08.020
No, I feel like, oh, let's feel bad for men type of thing.
02:25:11.480
Like, the question about, oh, there's some stuff that men can't change, that women can change.
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I feel like I want something maybe a little bit more spicy, but...
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I think that there will always be differences between men and women because of who we are
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And in my perspective, there's, like, the divine feminine, the divine masculine.
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And because of such, we participate in different roles.
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So, like, there's feminine and there's masculine.
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And I think that nowadays, you could argue that feminism has kind of been anti-femininity.
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Because although I believe that everyone else should make their own choices, I don't think
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that those are all choices that I would make because I know as a woman, there are certain
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things that I desire that are going to be perceived as, like, negatively, like, like,
02:27:10.260
nesting, like, making a home, having a family, being a stay-at-home mom.
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Like, that's something that I desire solely because it's, like, a feminine drive, like, a
02:27:30.240
I try to never, like, make my boyfriend not feel like a man.
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I let him do the things that I don't think he should do to allow him to make his own mistakes,
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I'm talking about, like, women being a little more level-headed than men, but men needing
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I don't know if I want to say, like, taking control, but, like, taking initiative and making
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Like, that's a masculine trait that all men desire.
02:28:13.060
And women nowadays who try to lead aren't going to be with masculine men.
02:28:28.460
I don't know if I should, but women with high body counts are almost innately more masculine
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because of their desires, their drives, their choices.
02:28:49.380
I think there's definitely couples where the woman, like, wears the pants, you know?
02:28:54.180
And, like, they just, like, yin and yang, like, perfect for each other.
02:28:57.260
But I think for me, and for what feels right, I just, like...
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I think that femininity is important, and you could argue that feminism has minimized the
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Like, women that choose to relax and to create and to receive and, like, for...
02:29:29.640
So, you're saying women are no longer feminine?
02:29:32.140
I think that feminism, on an extreme scale, is depriving those women of their...
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Their just biological femininity, which is important for, again, certain people.
02:29:59.660
I think it depends on the man, and I think it depends on the woman.
02:30:02.620
And, like, for example, like, to put it in, like, my situation, my fiancé is, like, a golden retriever.
02:30:11.400
Like, the sweetest guy ever, and I tend to be more on top of things, and I tend to be more, like, the leader.
02:30:30.060
But he's, like I said, a golden retriever, the sweetest person I know.
02:30:35.240
But, and I try to do the thing that you said and give him that lead, but he doesn't do that naturally.
02:30:50.280
But you do make a really fantastic point about kind of femininity, masculinity.
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What do you think about dudes who don't go down on women?
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I mean, you have to, you have to pleasure the woman.
02:31:11.140
What if the guy could make you come in other ways?
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Like, that's the easiest, simplest way to go about that.
02:31:30.080
What if he doesn't like doing it, but he still wants BJs, but he's polite about it?
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A, but listen, it really turns me on when I get head.
02:31:59.220
Because I feel like, in my opinion, a real man wants that.
02:32:13.140
The same way that a guy might find attractive for a woman to be like, yeah, let me give you
02:32:18.300
I want to give you head type of thing, you know?
02:32:20.140
So, is it a deal breaker if a guy doesn't want to go down on you?
02:32:26.120
I think if it's infrequent, like, just not a preference, whatever.
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But if they're like, no, I will not be doing that.
02:32:41.340
If you get him, like, chocolates and roses, maybe he'll do it.
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Like, oh, she'll only give you head if you give her...
02:33:04.460
Yeah, you expect head and you expect it, right?
02:33:08.200
So then why can't a woman be like, okay, well, then I expect head.
02:33:11.460
I'm only going to give you a blowjob on Valentine's Day and maybe your birthday.
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So, Attorney Reese, at Attorney Reese, for all your will and testament needs, quill and parchment
02:33:52.000
If a guy doesn't want to go down on you, is it a wrap?
02:34:01.540
And you definitely can't expect head and not go down.
02:34:15.440
Then he should just compensate, I think, in other ways.
02:34:19.600
I feel like, though, if he doesn't like it and you still want it, it's not going to be
02:34:26.660
I mean, it's also another thing if they don't know how to do it.
02:34:32.680
I mean, as long as they can make up for it, maybe.
02:34:36.280
But I think it's more, like, if they don't like it because they're grossed out by it.
02:34:41.760
I think that's the part that kind of, like, turns me off versus, okay, babe, you're not
02:34:52.300
That would be a different story versus, I don't want to do that, like, because I find
02:35:06.940
...two people enjoy what they're doing and it doesn't entail what other people think that
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it should entail, that doesn't necessarily make it wrong.
02:35:22.780
It's like, if he doesn't want to, it's not a deal breaker because if we are good in other
02:35:48.780
Okay, I haven't gone down on a girl since the Bush administration.
02:36:02.560
How long has it been since you've been with a girl?
02:36:20.560
And that's also why, that's also why I prefer girl on top.
02:36:40.660
And I will say, okay, so just to go back to the head thing, right?
02:37:13.380
It's way too dominant for a girl to be like that.
02:37:39.180
But I'm not done talking about why I wouldn't go down on you.
02:38:01.440
No, like, 18 is the lowest you can go legally, is my point.
02:38:07.640
I'm saying that's the legal answer, not in your head.
02:38:21.900
What makes you reach out to the girls that you bring onto the panel?
02:38:26.900
Yeah, like, when you see a girl that you want to come on to the podcast, like, what
02:38:45.680
To answer that, as far as who I invite on, one, I'm, like, looking at who tags themselves
02:38:56.520
Some people, like, I'll see them on Hinge or Bumble or any of the dating apps, and they'll
02:39:01.880
have their Instagram in the bio, and then I'll, like, send them a DM, like, hey, do you
02:39:07.880
So they probably got shit to say, but yeah, that's kind of it.
02:39:11.560
But okay, going down on a girl, Bush administration, so 2008.
02:39:17.600
The other thing is, is that the way the dating meta is, gone are the days of, like, people
02:39:25.040
So, like, I have to assume when I'm talking to a girl, she's fucking at least one other
02:39:34.620
And the thought of going down on a girl who's just fucked a dude the night before is fucking
02:39:40.900
In the same way that I'm sure for women, the thought of going down on a guy when he just
02:39:45.460
fucked a chick, well, I mean, you're bi, so maybe not.
02:39:48.100
But the thought of, like, being intimate with someone like that when they just fuck someone
02:39:55.900
Like, oh, I'm going to get this chick's fucking, well, you guys can imagine.
02:40:05.560
Well, then that presents some other issues, too.
02:40:07.460
Like, if we're not, if we're not using a condom, then it's like, okay, well, now, I mean, I
02:40:15.940
probably don't have to articulate why in that scenario.
02:40:20.900
Okay, if you come in a girl and you go down on her.
02:40:31.900
You fuck her at midnight and then she stays the night and then you fuck her in the morning.
02:40:39.800
And then there's infidelity, too, like if she's cheating.
02:40:44.860
We're saying before you fuck her, you eat her out.
02:41:00.000
You make her cum first and then you can cum after her.
02:41:06.080
But OK, I'm saying let's say you fuck on Tuesday and then you see her again 24 hours later.
02:41:23.680
No, women are not supposed to clean up inside is what I'm saying.
02:41:52.280
After 24 hours, like everything's just kind of.
02:41:56.780
I think the point here is that we as women agree you want a man that wants it.
02:42:03.920
But the big thing is like, OK, if you're just seeing a girl at the start.
02:42:10.920
That's like a similar concept to using a condom because you could get a sexual disease from doing that.
02:42:23.320
Just the thought of like, bro, some other guy came in you.
02:42:33.780
So do you expect a girl to give you like head after you like had sex with another girl?
02:42:39.080
Are you going to tell her that you had sex with another girl?
02:42:41.020
Well, I'm I'm like predominantly if I'm seeing a girl like I really don't have one.
02:42:47.180
I don't have the fucking time to be juggling a whole bunch of chicks.
02:42:56.240
Like if I'm sleeping with a girl, I'm probably just sleeping with her because frankly, I don't have the time.
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Like it's a lot of fucking time to be dating and doing all this shit.
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So generally speaking, like I'm actually giving chicks sexual loyalty from the jump, but I can't expect that always back.
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Like I'm usually not going to fuck with the girl.
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The point I'm making, the point I'm making is as a guy with the current, the way the dating meta is, you have to assume going in that she's fucking at least one other guy.
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Some girls might be fucking two, three other dudes, sneaky links.
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She's like still hooking up with her ex boyfriend here and there.
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Like it's so fucking messy today in today's day and age for both men and women.
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And so for me, it's just, I don't want to go down on a girl if she's fucking other dudes.
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I understand that from like a hookup perspective, but what's your excuse once you get a girlfriend?
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Like, see, you just, if I'm, if she's on birth control and we're, you know, blasting, there's that, there's still a chance of infidelity.
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But I want to make, no, but I want to make something clear.
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So my first, when it comes to sex, my girl always is going to come first.
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She's going to come first, if not multiple times.
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So, I mean, some girls aren't particularly multi-orgasmic, but some are.
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In the same way that some women don't want to have anal sex or don't like anal sex.
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And he's going to find a girl that doesn't care.
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Like, you're going to find a girl that's like, that's fine.
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I was hoping that would trigger you guys a little bit.
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So what was the other thing that I was going to bring up?
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Um, so did any of you guys have any final thoughts or anything?
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As a real man, by your guys' definition, eating is 10 times more work than smoking sausage.
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On top of the fact that the man has to put in more work to even get in the bedroom in the first place.
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So he's saying that it's harder to go down on women.
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It's been over a decade for me, so I don't know.
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Let me just address this super chat really quick, but we will get to that right after,
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So on top of that, the fact that the man has to put in more work to even get in the bedroom
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So he's saying, hey, it's harder for men to get laid, and I would also say it's harder
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for men to be good in bed, too, to add on to his point.
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I think it's just easy to, like, for men to just be done.
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I think men's orgasm response is more consistent, and it's easier to get to.
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But speaking on the flip side, though, I would say that there are a subset of women who can
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experience far more sexual pleasure than men can.
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So we're talking squirting, we're talking multiple orgasms.
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It's kind of like a much larger spectrum because you have some women that have severe difficulty
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And then some that can come in 10 seconds and just keep coming.
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He may have an issue getting women into the bedroom.
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I feel like that's a personal problem because, sorry, mom, back home, I don't have, we don't
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So wait, is your point that your boyfriend who you've been dating for how long?
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Your boyfriend who you've been dating for two years, he's not having difficulty sleeping
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Yeah, but I don't think it like, I think it, it's a personal experience.
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Like if a girl wants to have sex with you or not.
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Like if girls don't want to have sex with you frequently, like maybe that's a you problem
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because like where I stand, like I have no problems.
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And like the excuse of like, oh, like some girls are too tired or when you get married
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Well, it's like, what are you doing that makes her so unattracted to you would be my question.
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Cause I think throughout my relationship for like, hopefully, you know, like years to
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come, like I never want that aspect in our relationship to die out, to decrease.
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I think it's a really important aspect of relationship.
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And I think that's like a stereotype about certain women that like it, it's harder for
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you to get them into bed, but like have men ever considered asking themselves why they
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Eric, can you pull up, did we get this super chat?
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If you can show that, that's a Devon, by the way, thank you for that other $10 soup chat.
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So many women complain about men not knowing where the spot is to be bad at BJ's is a lack of
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And did I say it was difficult or that it's more work for a man to get a woman in the bedroom?
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So what he's saying is, and I think you're kind of looking at it from like within the
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But I think what he's kind of talking about is it's more difficult for men to get laid, like to get to that point.
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Don't you think that that's almost the way that it should be?
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I mean, shit, I'm down if some women want to DM me and I'm down for it.
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No, I'm just saying like you can't like base your perception of difficulty on your own experience.
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It is harder for men to get laid than it is for women to get laid.
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What if women just wanted to go to sleep with everyone?
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You're going to complain whether we do it or not.
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Well, I think men's complaint as far as it being difficult to get women into bed is some,
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some men believe that perhaps women have unreasonable expectations and unreasonable standards.
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But then we do sleep with whoever guy and then we're a slut and a hoe.
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And like, if we don't sleep with you, you're going to cry because it's too hard.
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Which is why it's, women are more sexually selective.
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And what you have happening kind of at least amongst, well, you see this playing out on dating apps is you have basically 80, 90% of women that are chasing after the top 20, top 10% of men.
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So, for example, on Tinder, the top 10% of men, the top 20% of men have their pick of the litter, whereas like average guys on Tinder are getting fucking destroyed.
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They're getting almost no matches, even if they're average.
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Average women can sleep with, average women have no issue sleeping with men casually.
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But average dudes, that shit, it's hard for average men.
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So, let me ask a question kind of related to this.
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Is it harder to be good in bed as a man or as a woman?
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Is it harder to be good in bed as a man or as a woman?
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Ours are closed, and we're the ones that have to worry about, like, you know, what we look
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I think because a lot of times, men put in a lot of effort during sex.
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So, I think, like, physically, yeah, you could say the man, but I think also, like, thanks
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Yeah, but for men, or will these, for men, they're easily satisfied.
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So, for a girl to be good in bed, it's like, okay, I came, I fucked her, that's that, I'm
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But for a woman, it's like, I want to be pleasured, I want to be taken care of.
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So, it's a lot harder for a man to satisfy all of those needs compared to a woman.
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And I think, I think I would say men, just for the purpose that, I think for a man, it's
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And I think women wouldn't accept a man that didn't put an effort, but I think a man would
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Yeah, it's more acceptable for a woman to lay there and do nothing.
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And, like, that, and, like, for some men, like, that's fine.
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And they put in all the effort, but it doesn't go the same the other way around.
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Like, a woman would not enjoy sex with a man that didn't do anything.
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So, I would say that it's harder for men, in that sense.
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I had something related to this, but I'm trying to find it here.
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Why is it that if a woman can't orgasm, it's the man's fault, but if a man can't orgasm, it's
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I don't think that's a perspective that I have.
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Okay, but, like, I guess the thing would be, is that...
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I always thought, like, if a guy couldn't finish, he would get mad, like, she didn't
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And then, like, if a girl couldn't, it was, like, almost her fault in a way, because, like,
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So, I've always heard it the other way around, not that way, which, that's also, like, a different
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We're going to watch a video, and then we're going to wrap up.
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It should be harder for a man to get a woman into bed, and the woman should reward the man
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I mean, effort looks different to everyone, though.
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I think effort could be replaced with enthusiasm.
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Devon Jackson, thank you for the $10 super chat.
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Yeah, I mean, I suppose it should it be harder for a man to get a woman into bed?
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How do you reconcile this view, but also consider yourself a feminist?
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Because that's my perspective, but I also believe that everyone is permitted their own perspective.
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You know, like people can think what they want to think.
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There can be a girl that's like, no, I'm going to choose, I'm going to do this, I'm going to do everyone, and by all means, do you.
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But I wouldn't necessarily push that perspective onto someone else.
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But like I would definitely like encourage it, you know, like with my friends.
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Like if you ask for my opinion, this is what it is.
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Let's do one last video, and then we're going to wrap it up.
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Oh, I guess the last thing that could potentially.
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Who should pay on the first date, men or women?
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During the dating period, you know, after like four or five months of dating,
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I'm just wondering at what point does it get, do you have to pay,
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The guy is asking that there should be half and half at that point.
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When you've already been dating for four or five months.
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Look, okay, to give you a quick answer on, firstly,
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I think we should just deal with the who should pay thing to begin with.
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I know, I mean, that's what I told him, you know, I'm sorry.
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But you're supposed to have sex with him whenever he says.
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if I was dating someone and they never offered to pay,
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If someone didn't offer to pay on the first date,
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and they never asked to pay or something like that.
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But I thought he said that it was on the first date.
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So you would want the guy to pay on the first date?
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he should be pursuing me, like, to the fullest.
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Like, I think a date is to get to know someone.
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There's a lot that goes on more than people think.
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these men are exceptionally physically attractive,
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what makes you think that your marriage or relationship
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Like also something that's often used in divorce to leverage in custody battles.
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There's going to be rampant false accusations of a child abuse.
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you have to be very careful of when you have children and there's a divorce.
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You don't even have to be married to end up in childbirth.
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it's very common for false accusations to be levied against spouse.
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You just never know what's going on in their lives.
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I'm just saying these are some very attractive,
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bringing it back to who should pay for a first date.
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They all just proved my point by saying the man should pay on the first date.
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They expect the man to invest upfront while they bring nothing but their existence.
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I was going to say I've been asked out one time.
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I still remember it to this day because that shit is so exceedingly rare.
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Stop saying whoever asks when you know you wouldn't ask a man typically.
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it's not only the fact that men will always pursue,
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but I believe there should be no judgment on where I take you.
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You're the fifth woman I've taken to this food truck this week.
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this is more like a stupid ass hill for me to die on.
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is like doing that will probably lose you women.
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Like maybe you could say I'm a man of my principles,
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You don't get to pick and choose the equality you want and the equality you don't want.
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Incredibly intelligent author of the rational male.
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So if you guys have any questions on like hair care,
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do you have any questions for Rolo on hair care?
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My fellow Kings while I've never broken up a marriage,
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Dave on Jackson with the $10 soup chat for Rolo.
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How do men communicate versus how do women communicate?
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so I don't know if he's going to come in on that,
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I think that's in response to a Dave on Jackson there.
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I'm trying to think if there's one last thing before Rolo comes in with his alpha widow thing.
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we'll get him on the podcast and we'll talk about all that stuff.
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I've got some solid questions ready to go for Rolo.
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the guy equals the guy who a girl can't get over widows her for other men.
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definitely a Rolo hard to answer through the chat.
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