Dating Talk #27
Episode Stats
Length
3 hours and 27 minutes
Words per Minute
187.85329
Hate Speech Sentences
168
Summary
In this episode, we introduce ourselves, talk about our jobs, and introduce a new segment called "Dancers". We talk about what it's like being a go-go dancer in the entertainment industry, and what it means to be a stripper.
Transcript
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La donna è mobile, qual piuma il vento, muta d'accento e vita in cielo.
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Sempre un'amabile, legge addroviso, impianto in riso e menzognero.
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La donna è mobile, qual piuma il vento, muta d'accento e vita in cielo.
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La donna è mobile, qual piuma il vento, muta d'accento e vita in cielo.
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A few quick announcements before the show begins.
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And if you want to be on the show or help with the show, DM at whatever on Instagram.
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And also, we need someone in chat to keep track of how many times the girls say like during the show.
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Okay, anyways, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves, so please tell us your name, age, occupation, and or school major, starting with you.
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I do kind of a little like bunch of different side jobs as well.
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So if someone needs like an extra hand or something like that, I help out.
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Like if someone needs a ride with their groceries or those kind of things.
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I thought, I thought you were, you worked at the Rhino.
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I feel like there's a difference between strippers and dancers anyway.
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If you want to like, if she's a dancer, dancers don't take off clothes.
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But okay, so then what kind of dance do you do?
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I don't really know where to look, but I'm Anna.
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I'm a poli-sci major, and I'm happy to be here.
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I'm 34, and I'm a freelance graphic designer, and...
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We're so different in a way, the way we, you know...
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It's a lot of entertainment, comedic banter between the two of us.
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And then we get to segments where each of us has sort of prepared something, but the other
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And so reactions and the blooming comedy of the moment sort of gets to be a big feature
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And then we have what's hopefully regulars of our friends who bring in that same kind
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of dynamic with whatever their, like, prepared section is.
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And their prepared section doesn't have to be comedic in nature.
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It's sort of like the reaction that we are relying on.
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We're on the Spectrum, and I'm just adult dealing with it.
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I mean, she has, like, the justification for it, but that's not where it started.
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And then Rick James', like, Super Freak came on, and it got to that line of, like,
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she's a very special girl, but kind of don't take over mother.
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And Danny looks at me, and she goes, like, on the spectrum?
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Like, her reaction to my shitty name was the better name for the podcast.
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And you stand up, so that's why we're just like, okay.
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So, and I'm just nervous as fuck as, like, doing anything.
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So I was figuring we could just do a podcast so I can be funny on...
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I mean, even if you're not gay, there's, like, a spectrum that goes between...
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Okay, but I think generally speaking, when you use the term spectrum, I think most people
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And we did ask a mother of a friend of an autistic child if she was okay, and she said
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that she was okay with it, so we figured it was...
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Yeah, I was wondering if it was the singing or the cigarette smoke.
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I swear to God, I was, like, five and I sounded like this.
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I'm 18, and I'm a poli-sci major at UCSB as well.
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So, we're going to go around the table once more.
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Relationship status, longest relationship, and are you on any dating apps?
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I have been on a dating app before, but it was very short-lived.
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I'm not currently using any dating apps, but I have used Tinder, and I have used Hinge before.
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But my longest relationship would have had to have been about nearly a year, and currently
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I am in a relationship, and I, my longest relationship was about five years.
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I feel like the breakup was longer than the, like, actual relationship, you know?
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The guy I'm with right now, we met on Bumble, which is a really funny story, because, like,
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I think I was looking for someone to murder him.
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It was so intense, like, this first meeting, like, he sounds like Dracula, too.
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He's, like, an immigrant from Russia, and so the way he talks, I'm just like, you can
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And, um, seeking arrangements, actually, I had a girl, like, she was one of my really
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She, like, ripped a bunch of my photos from my laptop and, like, phone and used some,
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Nothing with my face or, like, whatever, but, yeah.
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When, um, a friend of mine found, like, a profile because he was on it, unfortunately.
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So, but my tattoos are very noticeable, so he was like, what the fuck?
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Someone tried to seek arrangements with your body.
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Um, okay, I'm, I'm the black sheep here, married, and not seeking arrangements.
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And that's mostly because, like, this, you know, everyone forgets.
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But, like, smartphones are not that fucking old.
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So, um, I've been in my current relationship for fucking on and off again 13 years.
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And, and when you go back in history, you're like, when did the iPhone come out?
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So, it's like, yeah, I haven't been on those apps.
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But during those off again periods, I was just like, I'm going to what I know.
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And I went to the bar, like, a normal, a normal sad girl.
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So, you said, how long have you got, was it 13 years?
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But then even, I'm like, we've been married only five.
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We just had our fifth year anniversary and 15 year old me would have been fucking proud
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because we went to a gutter mouth show and I did get COVID for my first time.
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That was like fucking three and a half weeks ago.
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No, I'm, I'm very boosted now because I had three shots and then I was like, I'm going
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I don't like to say it because it makes me feel really fucking old, especially because
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So it's kind of like he stole me of my youth, but not like in a bad way.
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So right now I'm 34 and he just, he's in his final year of his thirties right now.
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I did buy some sparklers for this birthday occasion.
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I was like, not to be a number gal, but like, it's the last time you're going to see these
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Um, she's a Sag, so her birthday's coming up at the end of November.
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The ladies were talking before we all talked at the end.
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It's, so, but at one point in your relationship, it was on again, off again.
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Well, yeah, like the, the beginning part, for the first two years, we were like living
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in two different cities, um, because he was finishing grad school and shit here, and
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I was like, well, I'm done with school now, and fuck who wants to like, move to be with
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So, I waited to see where he was going to land after school, and he stayed here like
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You were abusing the table, but you're very, you're a drummer too, right?
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So, wait, is it a monogamous relationship, or is it open relationship?
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We, we made definitions, like, not super long ago, because there was a thing that happened
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I discovered a thing, and then, anyway, it made me go into boundaries talk, so, yeah,
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Um, I am not currently in a relationship, and I'm not really currently looking for anyone
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Do you have, like, numbers in your phone not saved?
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Um, I, um, I had a thing for, I would say, I don't even know, four months, but that ended,
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And the four-month thing, that was your longest relationship?
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Well, I just got, like, out of, like, a relationship recently.
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Um, my most, like, long-term relationship was two years, but I'm not really looking for
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anything, like, right now, but, hey, if I find someone, it happens, you know?
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I just feel like when you meet the person, like, I just want, like, that, like, first impression,
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I don't know, I'm kind of, like, old-fashioned in that way.
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Um, I'm on Bumble, banned off Tinder and Hinge.
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Um, my longest relationship was my most current one, like, a little over a year.
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Oh, I got an offer to be a sugar baby this morning.
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Oh, he just said, hey, do you want to be in a sugar daddy, sugar baby relationship?
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Okay, so, a couple of you said you were single.
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Um, yeah, I mean, I'm not in, like, I, I mean, yeah, sneaky links always.
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Um, but not in, like, a committed, like, going on dates type of relationship.
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Okay, see, for me, this is going to sound very controversial, but I'm not, like, I'm
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not, like, like, I'm not, like, I don't want to have sex with somebody unless there's,
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Well, that's not, I don't think that's controversial at all.
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I feel like, especially, like, being in college, everybody just, like, wants to do all these,
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Like, I wouldn't even share my drink with these people, like, you know?
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Or, like, yeah, especially, like, the first day you meet them, you don't want to go into bed with
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I swear, like, they'll be like, what's your major?
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They don't even give you, like, a, do you want to be study partners?
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I'll have to say, men tried a little bit harder in my day.
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They're just, like, one mile, yes or no, swipe.
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I mean, we live, I mean, I live on the beach now.
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I mean, I'm not too picky, as long as it's not, like, in the back of a car seat or something.
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Like, that would be so, like, that's, like, old.
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Uh, yeah, like, for me, my thing is, like, once I have a crush on someone, like, I'm
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loyal to them, like, just through that version of them in my head, like, I don't know, like,
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I just can't, like, I think having sex is, like, fine and it's okay.
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Like, I can't knock that, because, like, I can't say I haven't tried it, but, like, as
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of now, like, being in college, like, I'm just, like, kind of over the whole, like, hookup
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culture thing, like, like they said, like, it just, I don't know, like, I have better
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Like, I have fucking homework I could be doing.
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Like, I'm not really trying to mess around with someone.
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So, you said that in response to what she was saying, how, oh, yeah, just to remind you,
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I'm going to feel so, like, yeah, it's not, like, that long ago.
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Like, we're, like, okay, I was at UCLA 2006 to 2010, boom, era.
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2006 to 2010, which also, for everyone here, I'm pretty sure 2006 is when the iPhone came
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That's kind of like, so you were in university kind of before it was widely adopted.
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And, like, Facebook, for all of you guys, I know everyone's past it, but it used to,
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like, when fucking Face Place first became a thing, was only college kids.
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So, right when I get to college, that's when they're like, oh, fuck it, everyone.
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But, yeah, back then, at least guys would, like, meet you, probably think you're hot and
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But they would at least, like, try and be like, oh, you're so smart.
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You're definitely going to get a better grade than me in this night course.
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I was like, probably not or probably, you know, you picked before.
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Do you guys think that, actually, before we do that, there's been a couple requests
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I should have remembered to do that during the intros.
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It kind of did at first because it takes a while to get used to.
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Like, when you drink liquids, it goes in between your tongue to the bottom of your mouth instead.
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Which is definitely, like, when it's hot or cold, it's a little bit different.
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I'm definitely planning on more mods in the future, but no other ones right now.
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So, okay, the question is, do you think, I know some of you are in relationships, but
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more broadly, generally speaking, do you think that guys are not doing enough or trying hard
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So, you're asking if I think guys now are trying hard enough to, like.
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Like, they're not wanting to take girls on dates.
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They're just kind of want to, they just want to hook up.
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I mean, I think it completely depends on the guy.
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I mean, we also live in a college town where I feel like hookups are more common because
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no one's ready to be in a serious relationship.
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But I definitely think it depends on the person.
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There's a huge variety of guys who only want to date still and then guys who don't want
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It's kind of a long answer and I feel bad because, like, of course, like, this is something
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But, like, of course, like, guys don't try hard enough.
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Like, I feel like everyone just kind of wants instant gratification really quickly.
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And, like, most of the time guys kind of, there's just no, like, chase anymore.
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Like, you know, like, there's no, like, oh, we're friends and then we, like, start dating.
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It's just, like, guys want to have sex and they want it fast.
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And I feel like a lot of girls, like, it's not that, like, oh, they're putting out.
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It's, like, a lot of girls, they just want, like, to be loved or to not feel alone, especially
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in college where it's, like, they're willing to do that.
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And on both sides, I feel like it's just, like, I don't know.
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It's just the value of it is very low, I think, on both ends.
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But, like, yeah, guys, I feel like they're not working for it these days because on both
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ends of the relationship, we're just, like, working too fast to get something that, like,
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So, I, actually, the guy I'm with right now, when we first met up, just on, like, a bumble
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Anyway, I tried to do the whole, like, no, don't fuck me.
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Like, no, I really tried to, like, no, but he was, like, we were kissing.
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He made me tea, like, no, it was really, he's, like, we've been, like, he's my boyfriend
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right now, and I'm still, like, flirting with him.
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I saw the crush on this guy, like, we fucked on the first date.
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I think it's sexual chemistry and, like, equally, like, you guys both got to try, like, first,
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like, give it all, because this is a fast life that we're living in now, you know?
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Like, if you like it, you fucking like it, we're attracted.
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I think for me, personally, like, I'm so attracted to him, like, that's, that kind of, like, was
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the thing for me, that I'm so attracted to this person that, like, I could call this daddy
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I, he's the, I'm telling you, like, I still have my breath taken away, and I'm still chasing
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that, like, I'm always going to flirt with him.
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I mean, I guess I brought up the point, are you still talking about, do no one, does no
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Well, well, I guess it's funny, because, like, as much as it's, like, I'm not trying to, like,
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find anything, my husband and I, like, tag team as far as, like, who's able to go out
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and who watches our toddler, so I'm out on my own a lot, if that makes sense, so then
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there's just the opportunity to still get hit on, like, normal, even though I'm not
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necessarily asking for it, but, uh, I don't know.
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I don't know that that feels any different than it ever did, except I'm like, oh, my God,
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Like, because I think that's a real thing, but if you want to ask about that, that's a
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Okay, so, going over here to you, so, her initial thing was kind of almost in response
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to what you said about wanting to go on dates, but, so, you said you want to go on dates,
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do you get the sense that guys just aren't wanting to put in as much effort as you believe
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I mean, I guess it depends on the guy, but I think Anna put it, like, she said it perfectly,
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I mean, a lot of guys today, I feel like, especially, um, at UCSB, I think they really
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search for instant gratification, whether that be, you know, sex, or a hookup, or whatever,
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but I think the, like, chasing a girl in a sense of, you know, being friends first, or
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something like that, you don't see that very often, I think that's more back in, like,
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the olden days, back in my golden olden days, it's, like, it's something that's, like,
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really sweet, I think it's loss, it's becoming more and more losses, Gen Z.
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I don't know, actually, I feel like I wouldn't generalize, like, I've, I've had, like, met
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really cool guys who've been, like, serious and stuff, I've met guys who wanted, like,
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hookups, like, honestly, as long as you're, like, straightforward about your intentions,
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like, I don't mind. Um, I had a personal experience, um, there's this guy who, I, like,
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been off Bumble, or no, Hinge, before I got banned, and his thing was saying that he wants
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to be in a relationship, and I was, like, okay, cool, it's not just a hookup, so I was, like,
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okay, match with him, and we were, like, texting on Snapchat until I met him, like, two days ago,
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and I wanted to go out and do something, and, like, not be at home, because that, like, gives
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opportunities to do stuff when I didn't really want to, um, but then it, like, got later in the
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night, and he's, like, can I just come over, I was, like, okay, I guess so, wasn't planning on doing
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anything with him, because I was, like, I'm not going to, he said he wants to be in a relationship,
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I said take him on a date first, and then we ended up doing some stuff, but then I said take me out,
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and he said he would, and that was yesterday, and he never did, so.
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Sometimes you got to give him that wee-shee space, you know.
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So, I guess he, he said he wanted a relationship, but then.
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Oh, we got Rola Tomasi in the chat, the rational male.
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By the way, Jedediah Bila or something, they DM'd me about coming on the podcast.
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I wanted to ask you about that, because I know you were on there.
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We'll get, I don't know if I want to get, we'll maybe come back to the whole men aren't
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putting in as much effort, I guess we could say, and why that is.
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So, going around the panel one more time, do you identify as a feminist?
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And just to be clear, you can believe in equality and women's rights without being a feminist.
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I definitely agree with equality for women, but I don't identify as a feminist, no.
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I don't identify with feminism because I feel like it doesn't include women of color and
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trans women, but I do identify with the principles of feminism.
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Well, I mean, I've actually never heard that, that feminism doesn't really address the people
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I don't want to, like, go into it, like, on your show, but, like, that's just, like,
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my personal, like, I feel like a lot of the times it's just, like, white feminism and
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it doesn't include black women and trans women.
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That's where it started, because it started at the same time as a woman.
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So that's why I wouldn't say I'm a feminist, personally.
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Oh, the chat's going crazy, but, like, I don't know, like, that's just me, like, looking
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at the movement from my perspective as a queer woman of color, mind you.
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It's just a weird question in general, because, like, also, it's, like, people don't come
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up to me and ask me other things that are as, like, hard line as that question, so I don't
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really have a response other than be, like, I just feel like it's a weird question, and
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that I also believe in equality for women, so maybe that's where it started, but there's
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a lot of cloudy, weird energy around it that makes it a hard question to ask, dude.
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There's a lot of, like, cloudy, weird energy around it that makes it a harder question
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If you listen to our podcast, we'll talk about it.
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I was just thinking, it's like, there's a historical context there.
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There's a lot of, like, just where it came out from, and exactly what was said over here
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There's a lot to think about, and just be like, it's complicated, man.
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But, yeah, equality for women, like, why don't they let me say fucking dude on Instagram
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I've been using that since before fucking pronouns was pronouns.
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I do believe in, like, equality for, like, all women.
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But, I mean, I wouldn't personally define as a feminist.
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See, I identify as a feminist in, like, the original purpose, which was, like, equality.
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But, like, the modern, it just has, like, a bad connotation now.
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It's, like, women are better than men and stuff like that.
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How do you reconcile that with believing in inequality?
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Some people have mixed up the term feminism with, like, believing that they're over men.
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I, so that's why I wouldn't say I'm a feminist 100% because of the connotation it has nowadays.
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Oh, that, I believe in, like, women are equal, but I guess I don't think I would say I'm a feminist.
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So, I think overwhelmingly here on the panel, there's some slightly different responses,
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but you're all for equality between the sexes and, okay, rock and roll.
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So, my follow-up question was going to be, but since none of you really claim to be, I was
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going to say, is it a deal breaker if a guy is not a feminist?
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If he, like, criticizes women, like, oh my god, her dress, or, like, why is she wearing
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If this person is rude towards anybody just, like, talking shit about them, then that's
00:37:22.660
It depends why or why they aren't a feminist, like, why that man would say, like, if they
00:37:27.220
say they aren't a feminist for the same reason I am, like, cool, but if they say, like, they
00:37:30.840
aren't a feminist because, like, women need to do this or that according to male, like,
00:37:35.480
the male, like, perspective, then, like, fuck no.
00:37:40.700
Well, I can give you my perspective on that, so, I consider myself an egalitarian, I do
00:37:46.920
not consider myself a feminist, and like a few of you said, feminism has a various sort
00:37:56.600
My sense of it, I guess in the most generous sense I can attach to feminism, is feminism
00:38:11.140
I believe it's for women's advocacy, and the reason I think that is in a situation where
00:38:19.460
women would not stand to benefit from equality, feminists will not fight for said equality.
00:38:28.160
So, if that equality comes at the detriment of women, for example, the selective service,
00:38:34.820
the draft, feminists aren't fighting to have women drafted.
00:38:52.020
So, you're saying that feminism's wrong because they advocate for women instead of advocating
00:38:58.120
I'm just, like, wondering if that's what you were saying.
00:39:00.440
Well, the idea that feminism is an equality movement is an erroneous one.
00:39:11.340
Like, what you thought about equality in the draft?
00:39:27.260
If equality comes at the detriment of women, it's not something that feminists are going
00:39:41.020
There's a push that there should be an assumption of equal custody between both parents.
00:39:48.540
But currently, the way the court system is set up, typically it defers mostly to women
00:40:03.400
So, and so it typically defers to women having primary custody.
00:40:11.660
But in Florida recently, in Florida recently, there was a...
00:40:16.580
They were trying to pass a bill where it would be 50, like, 50-50.
00:40:21.840
And feminist organizations fought against that.
00:40:29.480
At the detriment of women for there to be 50-50 equality.
00:40:33.560
Because you don't get, like, an alimony check or a child support check or something?
00:40:45.520
I mean, what's the detriment to the woman part if they have to split custody?
00:40:59.600
So the reason that could be viewed as coming to the detriment of women is there's often custody battles.
00:41:06.140
And most of the time, in custody battles, people want more control over their children.
00:41:16.520
But only for, like, a child support check, right?
00:41:18.700
Or you mean because they really want their kid or because they want, like, some power over their ex and the money from them?
00:41:23.220
Well, I'm just providing one specific example where feminists don't fight for equality.
00:41:28.740
Why wouldn't feminists want, like, men and women, like, to have, like, an equal chance of, like, having custody of their kid?
00:41:36.520
I want to speak to this only from the fucking standpoint of, like, I'm the only one sitting here that actually has a kid.
00:41:42.360
And, like, I'm the only one sitting here that actually knows what that fucking takes, okay?
00:41:45.740
And I would say that it is insane as a thought to me that, like, I might not have the ability to have a partner be involved.
00:41:55.140
Like, I never would be sitting here with a kid in my life if I didn't think that I had that partner being able to be involved in some way.
00:42:03.080
So, that's just to say whether we were together or not.
00:42:06.380
So, if I were to, like, do a break custodially, fuck, yeah, brother.
00:42:11.240
Like, they better be taking half this fucking time in this child.
00:42:15.720
Because me, like you, enjoys to be a fucking human.
00:42:19.700
I have friends of mine who I only met in their divorced years, and they, like, could meet me as a single person before kids because they were fucking a divorcee that split custody.
00:42:30.580
I don't know anyone in their right mind that wouldn't fucking ask for a split on custodial fucking purposes.
00:42:36.700
Because, sheer God, I am not good at taking care of my fucking self.
00:42:48.960
I think that's a fucking, like, show me the fucking fact that shows that somehow women would benefit from not having the motherfucker take the kid half the time.
00:43:01.280
How does the woman benefit from being the child?
00:43:07.440
The only reason I'm hearing now is because I had to call my sister in, though.
00:43:12.320
Well, I mean, I'm going to address, I'm the host, so I'm going to address her thing.
00:43:16.940
I just, I mean, but I guess, like, that's just where I go with it is, like, from a personal perspective.
00:43:23.100
I can't imagine not having someone be able to split that time or, like, have partial responsibility.
00:43:31.820
So, I'm saying, where's the point come in that it's a benefit from the woman's perspective
00:43:36.620
to be trapped with that fucking ball and chain 24-7, 365?
00:43:40.660
Do you want me to answer because you're just having a monologue now?
00:43:42.800
Yeah, because I don't want to fucking hear you say that you know what the fuck it's like
00:43:54.140
I know, but you want to talk about feminism and shit.
00:43:55.740
Do you think that, you don't think that there's men and women that are fighting to have custody
00:44:01.640
I want the men to have custody of the children.
00:44:05.800
Okay, there would not be family attorneys, family law attorneys.
00:44:13.280
There's, of course, there are disputes when it comes to custody.
00:44:20.300
But what's the, you said specifically that there would be a benefit that feminists would,
00:44:24.180
like, want to have happen and feminism and somehow this, like, shit fucking segued into
00:44:29.540
this and it was all about custodial shit and I was just saying, who the fuck wants that?
00:44:33.780
But, I don't know what's the one that wants that.
00:44:35.820
The court system and the laws are currently set up to award women disproportionately custody
00:44:46.300
The law in Florida was to just have that be de facto immediately if there's any sort of
00:44:55.600
But typically how it plays out is the mother, she's just going to get a higher percentage of
00:45:04.500
You're saying they want to keep it the way it is.
00:45:07.880
But do you say that they want to keep it that way or are you saying that they want to change
00:45:12.360
In the history of custody disputes, you don't think that there's been any party in a custody
00:45:23.780
I mean, it sucks but I just feel like that's a really topsy-turvy subject.
00:45:30.040
And I've never been in a custody battle so I don't really know.
00:45:33.720
I mean, I've had friends who benefited from living with their father and I have, you know,
00:45:39.800
I was just giving an example to her of why I think that feminism is a woman's advocacy
00:45:45.300
There's nothing wrong with women's advocacy but I don't think we should say feminism is
00:45:56.100
Um, I, my mom's friend, um, doesn't have custody of his kids and the mom sucks.
00:46:05.560
So there's definitely times where the dad is a lot better, whatever their situation is,
00:46:11.900
but the mom still gets custody and they still have to fight so hard to get the custody of
00:46:18.260
Like, I think whatever situation is better that either deserving parent.
00:46:24.920
Honestly, sometimes it's just about showing up.
00:46:30.420
Just the situation that I've a whole, I don't know.
00:46:34.740
The situation I personally have experienced that the dad is just way better and thought
00:46:41.420
And the mom just, uh, just feel like your child will choose.
00:46:52.880
Fuck feminism and fuck all the fucking shit that we just talked about.
00:47:05.280
Uh, thank you for the, we're going to do some super chats here.
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Uh, so yeah, girls, if you guys want to, uh, answer this.
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Um, contrary to how I look, I actually grew up on a ranch and a horse girl.
00:48:02.240
I don't love horses, but like, it's the thought that counts.
00:48:15.680
That sounds like your, like, Prince Charming Day.
00:48:30.520
The only thing that comes into my mind is like one of my best friends,
00:48:33.740
freshman year, her college roommate being a horse person, being like,
00:48:38.640
And then did you know that like riding a horse was the first time that I found my clitoris?
00:48:44.280
And I came and I was like, what's that feeling?
00:48:49.400
So when a guy says first time, yeah, trail ride on horses, I'm like,
00:48:57.200
But that's just me and my sourpuss fucking soul.
00:49:13.500
Assuming a normal Gaussian distribution, have the girls rate themselves at what
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percentile of physical attractiveness they are in.
00:49:23.300
Man, you, you made that, you worded that shit complicated as fuck, dude.
00:49:33.700
Like, so what he's talking about, like, like a Photoshop thing, Gaussian filter.
00:49:41.820
Like on the, like the, like the perfect face thing.
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So I'll have our, our good friend Stifler come in to help us with this one.
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Stifler asks, ask the ladies to rate themselves on a scale of one to ten.
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I think eight and a half on a good day, for sure.
00:50:25.120
It's like, who sits there and like looks in the mirror and they're like, today I'm feeling
00:50:30.380
Like most days I feel like a fucking like four, maybe five.
00:50:35.520
Like, and then there's those days where you're like, shit's on, bitch.
00:50:56.920
Like putting in like my words, like it depends on the day, but I mean, right now, I'm like
00:51:05.700
I mean, like beauty, like I think, you know, they say like it's I'll be like the beholder
00:51:10.400
But personally, I don't try to rate myself because I am a Latina.
00:51:14.780
I'm obviously, I don't feel like the conventional like beauty stereotype.
00:51:18.740
So I try not to focus so much on it for my own mental health.
00:51:33.420
You're not even wearing makeup and you're gorgeous.
00:51:53.120
They should call you Richard Joyless or Dick Joyless.
00:52:03.040
I just got to say, I thought everybody had a grandpa dick.
00:52:18.980
I thought everybody had at least one grandpa dick.
00:52:46.920
M1 Garand asks, would any of the girls date a guy who legally owned a firearm?
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There are guys who are, I would, like, there are certain guys where it's like, there are
00:53:12.380
certain guys where if, like, if he had a gun, it'd be, like, a complete red flag, and
00:53:16.660
There are other guys where it's like, oh, that's normal.
00:53:18.580
Depending on where they live, who they are, et cetera.
00:53:24.160
What would make a guy weird, and then a guy, oh, that's normal?
00:53:27.600
I mean, especially if it's, like, some type of, like, assault rifle that you have in the
00:53:31.860
Like, I don't think any normal person, like, not to be controversial, but I don't think-
00:53:36.420
I don't think a normal person should have a machine gun, you know?
00:53:41.740
I don't think we should be able to bring that into Walmart, you know?
00:53:44.060
But, like, if he lives in a dangerous city, and he has a small gun to protect himself,
00:53:51.120
But, like, as a woman, it does scare me, you know, being around a man with a gun.
00:54:01.160
Again, not to get too political, but, like, as a black woman, like,
00:54:05.840
our murders and our disappearances aren't investigated, aren't looked into as much as
00:54:10.180
that of a white woman or that of a white man, especially, where it's just, like, I don't
00:54:14.600
I'd hate for something to happen to me, and me just go down as someone who was killed
00:54:24.900
Would you be in a better position if you were killed by a woman?
00:54:33.240
I definitely would like to be killed by a woman.
00:54:39.800
I came out a woman, I'll die by the hand of one.
00:54:42.380
I'd much rather die by the hand of a woman, fuck yeah.
00:54:45.900
But I'm just saying, like, something about a man with a gun, like, there's a reason why
00:54:53.700
Like, there's obvious reasons why that would, you know, a man, and especially, like, with
00:54:58.060
sexual assaults, a woman with a gun makes more sense to me than a man with a gun.
00:55:01.380
We're just, I know it's unlikely, but just the thought of anything happening to me is
00:55:06.820
We're just like, anyone having a gun would put me on edge for sure.
00:55:28.860
So, but I've been, like, there have been some weird accidents, you know, growing up.
00:55:34.320
Okay, but would you date a guy who legally owned a firearm?
00:55:37.760
Yeah, legally, everything, everything checked out, be fine.
00:55:44.900
I mean, like, my dad owns a gun, and so, I mean, it'll have to depend on, like, if the
00:55:50.880
guy's in, like, sound mind or anything, or if it's legal, but, yeah, I think I would.
00:56:36.660
So, I saw, I was curious, because I saw on your Instagram, you said something, should
00:56:54.360
So, that is what your Instagram says in the bio, correct?
00:57:01.760
The views expressed by the other panelists do not necessarily reflect those of the show
00:57:12.580
Would you date, kind of related to our last question, would you date a police officer?
00:57:20.940
Why the, and I asked this out of curiosity, why the dislike for police?
00:57:30.240
Because the institution they support is inherently racist and profiles black and brown Americans
00:57:36.980
especially, throws them into jail, which is a continuation of the slave trade, essentially.
00:57:41.740
People are working in prisons for less than minimum wage, making pennies and dimes, and
00:57:46.980
And that's what you contribute to if you're a cop.
00:57:50.220
I'm just not for, not for the killings or for the jailings.
00:57:54.020
So, I guess my question to you is, I disagree with you on.
00:58:09.300
How can you be racist against, and I'm also half white, so like, how can I be racist against
00:58:14.000
It's not like you ever have to experience any type of persecution because of your race.
00:58:21.080
So, you don't, you don't, hold on, hold on, hold on.
00:58:24.000
You don't think you can be racist towards someone who's white?
00:58:26.480
No, I don't because you've never experienced racism in history.
00:58:35.700
I'd say basically like the persecution in any type of way that leads to the downfall of
00:58:45.060
As a black woman, like, you asked me why he can't say that to me, and I can tell you
00:58:52.100
A cop can see me and profile me in the stereotypes of a black woman that I'm fast, that I've been
00:58:57.940
over-sexualized all my life just for my skin color.
00:59:00.620
Like, it's not unfair, but these prejudices, prejudices, I don't know how to say the plural
00:59:07.320
And those same prejudices that exist against me don't exist against you, Brian.
00:59:11.340
And that's why you can't be racist against a white person.
00:59:13.780
So I'm sorry if you feel offended, but you are white, and me calling you white boy isn't
00:59:19.540
I mean, you are addressing me by my skin color.
00:59:25.240
Your skin color will never lead to the, you know, what is it, premature murder of yourself.
00:59:31.380
Like, no one's ever going to feel like, oh, this person's white, so they're a threat.
00:59:36.260
I would actually point out one thing to you, because we were discussing police.
00:59:40.780
Me as a white man, I'm the only male at this table here, there are more white men killed
00:59:45.900
by police officers than women of any race combined.
00:59:54.140
Because I realize that police are a necessary function of society.
01:00:03.960
I think that, I think that there are some things that are wrong with the way policing
01:00:08.840
is done, but certainly, as a society, law enforcement is needed.
01:00:15.460
Do police, is there police, hold on, hold on, let me finish, hold on, let me finish.
01:00:29.420
I mean, I think that's really easy to say, as you, once again, I'll reiterate, a white
01:00:37.380
Black women can want, black people want police officers, too.
01:00:42.420
Can I just, really quick, I just think that police forget that they work for the people.
01:00:46.880
I think they forget that they're peace officers, they're sworn in to protect the peace, and
01:00:57.820
Yeah, supposedly, there are good cops, there's bad cops, and I, fuck the police, and fuck
01:01:15.320
Well, I think we need someone who's going to be charged.
01:01:19.100
If there's, if there's some, like, if someone in my family.
01:01:26.160
You're going to be in a society of a lot of niceties for being in that, and part of the
01:01:29.180
things that you can't do is just anything under the livid sun, and that's where law enforcement
01:01:33.260
Anyways, if this is too sensitive of a subject, we can certainly move on, but.
01:01:39.580
Well, I have, like, my mom's mom, my grandma, is a police officer, and I would always question,
01:01:49.800
you know, like, why, as a, she's a black woman, like, why would she be caught?
01:01:54.020
But her and I had a discussion saying that I think that even though not all cops are in
01:02:01.340
the right sometimes, I do think that all cops need more training.
01:02:07.120
More education on, like, how to handle certain situations, especially, because there have
01:02:12.220
been so many situations that I've just seen on social media that could have been avoided
01:02:16.560
if they had more training, and I do think that they're necessary, because if you don't
01:02:21.400
have them, then you're just going to have chaos, and we've seen it.
01:02:32.020
Yeah, like, they're there for a reason, and I think they should be there for a reason.
01:02:40.060
Well, if I can just try to get at the heart of kind of what, so do you not want police
01:02:45.940
I just want to understand, I'm not trying to be critical, I just want to understand where
01:02:50.760
Basically, like, as to my understanding, again, as a black person in America, the institution
01:02:56.720
that police officers work for, whether they know it or not, whether they themselves stand
01:03:01.340
for it or not, what they're working for is constituting towards racism.
01:03:05.960
It's building towards America's existing case of racism, which, like, I feel like, because
01:03:11.480
police are, like, supposed to protect us, like, no one wants to say it, and, like, because
01:03:14.800
it's not obvious, like, no one wants to admit it.
01:03:16.920
But, like, at the end of the day, that system itself has to be dismantled in order for, I
01:03:22.260
don't know, society, you know, you say you're a, what was the word you used?
01:03:25.320
Well, egalitarian, that's how you pronounce it, egalitarian, like, in order for society
01:03:30.320
to be truly equal, we need to, like, take apart these systems that are inherently racist,
01:03:35.120
inherently unequal, that, you know, aid in the, I don't know how to say it, the lack
01:03:41.180
of development within certain societies and, like, reestablish them, and I think that includes
01:03:47.100
I think, like, as it exists now, the police force cannot go on, especially, like, if we
01:03:53.760
So, how do we do law enforcement without police?
01:04:16.480
Why wouldn't the cop have prevented that murder then?
01:04:48.780
There's certainly cases of police misconduct, police brutality.
01:04:54.220
Are there ways we can better train police officers?
01:04:57.240
But I think police officers are fundamental to a functioning society.
01:05:01.040
You're saying that, like, the justice system itself isn't corrupt.
01:05:07.220
I mean, like, what if my mom does get murdered?
01:05:10.480
And what if he gets convicted and spends the rest of his life in prison?
01:05:13.460
Or what if they do get the right guy, and he just gets, like, you know, what is it?
01:05:21.840
That's a state in which you can get the death penalty.
01:05:25.620
If someone killed my mom, I'd want them to rot in prison for the rest of their life.
01:05:29.360
So, no, either way, if someone's already murdered, what the fuck is a cop gonna do?
01:05:45.100
That's why their show's called Unsolved Mysteries.
01:05:49.400
Unless they, like, leave DNA or come everywhere.
01:05:52.040
So, there shouldn't be police officers because some cases aren't solved?
01:05:59.820
Your argument has fallacies in it, so I'm not sure what you're saying.
01:06:04.080
I said there shouldn't be police officers because the system they stand for is corrupt.
01:06:12.660
I just feel like what they do is not what they are...
01:06:15.580
What they stand for isn't what they say they're doing.
01:06:18.260
They're saying they're protecting the people, and they do protect white people.
01:06:22.240
White people don't get stopped and frisked, and that's a known fact.
01:06:25.120
It's unproportional that in Latino and black communities that these are the people who are getting stopped and frisked constantly.
01:06:31.220
The police are at the disadvantage of black and brown people.
01:06:34.100
They will always be to your advantage, and that's why you're in favor of them, and that doesn't surprise me.
01:06:38.520
However, from my point of view, as someone who grew up in a city that had both poor and rich people, black and white people,
01:06:44.480
I've seen the way cops treat black people versus white people, and especially the way they treat poor black people.
01:06:49.260
And it's disgusting, and it's inhumane, especially someone who has family who's poor black people.
01:06:56.200
So, no, I do not think police officers should still be instated the way they're currently being instated.
01:07:01.800
The fucking system needs to be changed and remodeled so it benefits everyone, not just you, but everyone at this table.
01:07:08.820
I mean, I kind of reject quite a few of the premises that you've laid out there.
01:07:18.140
So, but anyways, we don't have to stay on that for too long.
01:07:25.020
As you mentioned, like, brown people and Latinas and stuff, like, as a Latina, I know that when I call...
01:07:32.160
I know that when I call, if I ever need, like, the police, like, at any moment or at any given time,
01:07:37.060
I trust that the police is going to be there to support and serve justice.
01:07:40.640
You cannot generalize that all policemen are racist or they're all bad, you know?
01:07:45.580
That's, like, the worst thing you can possibly do.
01:07:47.200
I didn't say all, but I just said in Latino and brown communities, again, if you were
01:07:51.840
listening to me, we are getting stopped and frisked unproportionately.
01:08:00.480
I'm just saying these are the statistics and you can look them up.
01:08:07.100
When was the last time you got stopped by a cop?
01:08:16.500
Like, when's the last time you got pulled over?
01:08:19.620
Like, when's the last time you talked to a cop?
01:08:22.600
When was the last time I spoke to a police officer?
01:08:36.120
I mean, I was attacked in the street exactly a year ago and the police...
01:09:00.940
Actually, I give quite a bit of credit to the police.
01:09:04.980
They did a decent amount of work investigating it.
01:09:08.340
However, as soon as it got to the woke district attorney here in Santa Barbara, the district
01:09:15.740
So, that's where I agree with you that the justice system is broken.
01:09:31.320
I mean, I don't want to go too far into all the identity politics stuff, but I think
01:09:37.100
because of the circumstances of the attack, the district attorney did not want to pursue
01:09:44.720
But yeah, the district attorney did not pursue criminal charges, even though there was
01:09:55.320
For the police that helped me out with that case, nothing but love for them.
01:10:03.740
Well, he was driving, and so he's a tall white guy.
01:10:10.100
Anyway, he gets pulled over for running a red light and nearly hitting somebody, right?
01:10:22.240
There's a cop literally right behind us as it happens, right?
01:10:35.060
Anyways, cop rolls up, and he's like, I got another call.
01:10:39.240
But he did ask for his license and registration, and then that was it.
01:10:48.080
If that was me, I probably would have been like stopped, and the car would have been searched.
01:10:53.700
But like, I can't help but feel like because he's a, you know...
01:11:01.640
I don't know what it was about him, but he is, you know, white.
01:11:21.800
I think you're the one, like, you realize what's, like, ticking, and you're like, let's
01:11:27.380
I think you're reaching for that, like, what's making you so mad?
01:11:39.280
But I think, do police have an incredibly difficult job?
01:11:55.840
We're gonna move on from the police stuff because it's just gonna derail.
01:12:04.660
They're definitely more fun than the police, right?
01:12:10.740
So, okay, we're gonna get back to some light-hearted dating discussion here.
01:12:29.580
So, normally I do this at the beginning of the shows, but, you know, I didn't really have...
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So, we have some videos to react to, some fun little videos.
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But before I get into some of my other questions, before we react to some videos, I'd like to open it up to the panel here.
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So, is there anything dating-related that you want to get off your chest?
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So, one thing, maybe one thing, here's some prompts.
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You want some advice when it comes to men are dating.
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Anything dating-related you want to get off your chest?
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Are you just still tilted about the conversation?
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No, I just, like, don't really have, like, nothing, like, comes to mind, really.
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Everyone is a stage-five clinger, and everyone's lying if they say that they're not.
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I would just say, like, respect goes both ways.
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So, I mean, I'll give you respect if you give me mine.
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Um, I mean, a guy just texted me saying he's going back to his ex, so...
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No, I mean, not really, but, um, he was really...
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He's supposed to come over tomorrow, and now he's not.
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Wait, is this the guy that you were talking about before?
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How many little links you've got going on right now?
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Do you think they ghost you because they know that you've got, like, seven dudes that you're
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But a guy just texted me saying he's going back to LA to see his ex and apologizes.
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Yeah, but you guys aren't, like, together, so...
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He's supposed to come over tomorrow and just hang out, but that's canceled now, so that's
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But, no, yeah, a lot of things piss you off of about men, especially with, like, personal
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experiences with dating and how men treat women, I guess.
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What's the first thing you notice about a guy on your first date?
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But that says a lot about hygiene also, you know?
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You said you wanted to have us come back to you.
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I mean, the only thing I can really think about is that I think I'm kind of excited for the
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way dating is moving towards accepting non-monogamous relationships more than it used to be.
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I think those should be definitely highly more, like, considered than they are.
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You think more people should have those kind of relationships or just more people should
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I mean, I'm not saying that, like, if it's not for you, it's not for you.
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But I think when it's more mainstream, just, like, being gay, like, if it's more mainstream,
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it's more comfortable for people to be able to come out and express how they actually want to be.
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And it's also easier for non-monogamous couples to meet other people who are non-monogamous.
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Okay, so you were saying we should open things up with the monogamy.
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Sorry, I totally, I misquoted you a little bit.
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You think people should be more accepting of, or you like how the dating trend is going
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I just think it's growing in terms of being more accepting of different kinds of relationships.
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I believe that's subject to change, but I personally don't.
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I want to wait until she's back just so that we can, for the video reaction, but, so let me
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I've been like the first girlfriends for like all, like both of them.
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Like, yeah, like both guys I've dated, I've been like their first girlfriends, so no.
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The two guys you've dated, you've been there first.
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But then again, I'm 18, so like there's not much room for being sometimes.
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Um, I definitely have dated a fuckboy before and they don't change.
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So, as you know, I've helped out quite a bit in my relationships.
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Would you find it sexist or offensive if a man only wanted to date a woman who shaved
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her legs, underarms, pubic hair, and had long hair?
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If you have the hair and then they want you to shave it for them?
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Would you find it offensive or sexist if a man only wanted to date a woman who shaved
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her legs, underarms, pubic hair, and had long hair?
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I mean, yeah, I mean, I wouldn't find it a big deal, I don't think.
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If, like, girls like a tall guy or, like, ripped guy, like, there's not a problem with
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If they have a preference, then that's respectable.
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Uh, it's fine until they are really rude about it, I guess I'd say.
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It's like, I'm not going to see you unless you shave or whatever the case is.
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I feel like if he really loves you or if this person really loves you...
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I think that eventually it's going to be like, you know what, you look gorgeous anyway.
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It's like telling guys to shave their legs and armpits and whatever the case is.
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Unless he pays for it to get it fully removed all the time.
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Um, I mean, I think every girl has the ability to have body hair and I think it's very over-sexualized
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You know, if a man doesn't want her to have pubic hair, I think that's disgusting.
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But I don't think it's fair for a guy to force his views on a woman just for that.
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Like, if he's seeking a random girl and he says that, that's like, like you said, his preference.
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I thought you meant like in a relationship or something like that.
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Well, I mean, it could also play out like maybe she started that way and then she started
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But he was just like, hey, your legs are spiky or something like that, you know?
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Then I would still stay with my original statement if that was the case.
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We'll have her answered since she's coming back now.
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So, the question was, would you find it sexist or offensive if a man only wanted to date a
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woman who shaved her legs, underarms, pubic hair, and had long hair?
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I don't want to seem like I'm being rude because of earlier.
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I just feel bad because I didn't want to talk to you like that.
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I don't want you to think I was trying to check you or put you in your place for having your opinion.
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But, yeah, I think, like, if I'm dating a guy and he's like, your legs are fucking hairy
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Like, it's just, like, if we go on that first date and, like, let's say, like, for example,
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I have hairy armpits and you decide that's not your thing, that's fine.
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But if you're rude about it and you're, like, you're disgusting, like, you need to shave,
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like, then that's where it kind of gets impolite.
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Then, like, I feel like once you, like, start commenting on it, that's where it gets impolite
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because you can see someone's body hair and, like, be able to determine in person, like,
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Like, some girls don't like super hairy guys and that's fine.
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Okay, so would you, I, I, would you similarly find it, come on, it's, I mean, it's, so would
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you similarly find it sexist or offensive if a woman wanted to date a man who was clean
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shaven, had little, little or no body hair, shaved his pubic hair or had, some women prefer
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Some women have a preference towards clean shaven.
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I think it's a bit more women prefer clean shaven.
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Wait, what do you mean, like, of just body hair, face hair?
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Yeah, some girls dislike, like, a guy who has a lot of chest hair.
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I, because I've had, my experience is, I've had women, I've had women go both ways because
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But, so, some women are like, I don't like that shit.
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And then other women, other women are like, nah, I like it, I like you with a beard.
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You know what, it's like the chest hair and the beard hair are great, but as soon as you
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start to get into, like, the back hair and, like, the taint hair, it just gets a little
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Happy trail's fine, but, like, back hair, I don't know, bro.
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We are going to, we're going to do some super chats, then we're going to watch, react
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Okay, I'm trying to see where we, where are we?
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We got $10 from Rolo Tomasi, the rational male.
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Ladies, would you date a guy who identifies as a male feminist?
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Hey, sorry, Rolo, we, I think we covered that, but if you want to ask the girls a different
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question, if one of the, Eric, if you can maybe just.
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He has five of them, five books, The Rational Male.
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We're going to get him on the show eventually, so check it out.
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But yeah, well, if you want to just write a regular comment, we'll try to get that as
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Andrew Tate with the, can someone in the chat say what currency this is?
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It's always the half and half girls speaking the most about what we go through.
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J.K. Rowling coming up with another way to do that.
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Do you know how much it costs to throw someone in prison for life?
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I mean, there's definitely some debate about the whole death sentence thing.
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I mean, we're not going to get too deep into that, but there's definitely arguments
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Yeah, I mean, perhaps there are some crimes that are so egregious that maybe the death
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But, yeah, you do make, there's an economic argument to be made that the appeals process
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for, if you have a death penalty case, is actually more expensive than just keeping
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And then there's also, with the death penalty, I'll just bring it back up really quick.
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Like, in the event that there's a wrongful conviction, you know, if there's no going
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back from the death penalty, but if they're still in prison, you can release them.
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So, that's one of the major arguments against the death penalty is in the case of a wrongful
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And we've seen cases where, through DNA evidence, it comes out 20, 30 years later.
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And, yeah, so, anyways, Richard Joy, for the girls, say you were dating a guy, he split
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I low-key love her, even though we had a debate earlier.
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I know we had a bit of a heated debate, but debate is welcome, and I'm glad that you
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So, he's incredibly wealthy, owns some, like, maple syrup companies.
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My cash up is Annalisa DSG with a dollar sign in front of it.
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Kai, why don't you go ahead and answer this one?
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So, I'm going to have to assume that you guys are dating when he split the beans, saying
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I'm not sure if he means, like, in the past, if he's hired prostitutes.
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It sounds like during, because he's saying, like, split the beans, like, sometimes it's
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my all-time girl, sometimes it's an escort, like, a little splitting, right?
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Any guy who hires a prostitute is a no from me.
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Would you have an issue dating a guy who, let's say, slept with some prostitutes in the past?
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So the meth selling was okay, but it was the prostitutes?
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I mean, neither, but I'm like, what person my age needs to hire...
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Like, what, like, other, like, people my age, like, would need to hire a prostitute?
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Like, how has life, like, gotten that tumultuous for you?
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Well, actually, a lot of, like, parents, like, or dads specifically, they'll hire, like,
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So they feel, like, manly, and they know what they're doing when they're with, like, a girl
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Okay, so being someone who has dealt, like, in the life of sex work, I think that you can
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also develop a relationship with this girl and not because she is a prostitute hire her,
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but because you want to be with her, but you also know that's the way to support her.
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But it's like, is that hiring her if it's supporting your girlfriend?
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Is hiring someone the same thing as supporting your girlfriend if she happens to do sex work,
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I want to just come in and just address what you said.
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It's, well, it's much harder for men to get laid than it is for women to get laid.
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I was working in the red light district at one point in Amsterdam,
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Well, the tough part was I was trying to get other escorts,
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So, did you get to go, would you have an issue with-
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He is splitting the beans between prostitutes and you.
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Would you have an issue with, like, you find out a guy that you're starting to date or whatever,
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I'm saying he's probably, like, if somebody had to pay for an escort, I mean, I don't know.
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I just feel like it'd be an invitation for a really great conversation.
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I mean, if it was in the past, I mean, I wouldn't like it, but I mean-
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Like, you don't know, like, the background of it.
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I feel like I would be worried that they're going to go out and do it again while being in
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So, related to that question, I want to ask you guys.
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How many, just how many sexual partners you've had?
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I actually just learned, not that long ago, that, like, full on, like, all the way, you
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I don't keep one on purpose because I had a friend in middle school that was, like,
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that bitch that, like, fucking wrote down every fucking thing about every fucking body.
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I don't know because she had an exact body count, like, when we was on high school.
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I don't care about your friend in middle school.
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It's got to be at least enough to know that I can fucking fuck.
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I figure you see a girl with a, with a kid and you're like, well, she fucks.
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I really don't know because I really, like, I really was traumatized.
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And I feel like there was this time my freshman year in college when I tried to guess.
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And I was like, this is a bad idea for my self-esteem.
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I'm not going to give you, like, enough to know that it's been fun.
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Well, just in response to all the girls' answers.
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Multiply it by three, and that's the real number.
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Let me do super chats, and then we'll go into that.
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Yo, Benjamin, thank you for the big $50 Australian, man.
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I think this is, this looks like your first soup chat, so if this is your first time tuning
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So, this, yeah, I should have pulled this up before I prompted it, but Richard Joy with
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Yo, Richard, thank you for the continued support, man.
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By the way, please confirm or deny the whole maple syrup conglomerate thing.
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Richard Joy, a man can spend $300 and get spent an hour of talking and hanging out and
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get exactly what he wants, sex, without any games or nothing.
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I mean, at the end of the day, you're going to have to pay for it some way.
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I don't want to go through all the BS of dating.
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Like, if you just, I mean, I've never had an escort, but I could see, like, why some
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Like, if you just want to get laid, you don't want to do the whole dance of let me take her
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on a date and then 50% chance she's going to flake and then she's going to want to wait
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So, I can understand why some men, they just want it.
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I think sex is better with someone you care about.
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But anyways, Art Vandele with the $10 soup chat.
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But sometimes I think it would be more logical to have the chat answer with zeros and ones
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In response to this, one, if you agree, two, if you disagree with Art Vandele here.
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I don't think it should matter as long as he takes care of himself in like a STD standpoint.
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And so, this can also be viewed either as your view of a partner, be it a guy or a girl,
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if they have a high body count, or should body count matter, like, if a potential partner
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I mean, not really, but I wouldn't have sex with a virgin, probably.
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Just, like, from, like, point of view of experience, and, like, I just wouldn't want to have sex
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But, like, especially just the experience thing.
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Yeah, the only thing I would worry about is, like, are any STDs, but if not...
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As the sole guy at the panel, I must come in here.
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But don't you want to get that dick sucked real good?
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Okay, even for a one-night stand, even for a one-night stand, I'd rather get what's
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I don't remember the last time I hung up with a guy, like, what's your body count before
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Like, I don't remember the last time someone asked me that.
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You've said, though, that you've had trouble getting into relationships.
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Yes, but that is not from whatever my body count is.
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We have hook-up-only category, recreational-only category, and then we have relationship-marriage-girlfriend
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For that category, men care deeply about body count.
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If it's just to hook up, a lot of men probably are going to give a bit more leeway, but when
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Most men are invested in a woman's past, in her promiscuity.
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I've failed at dating, but nothing of body count or anything like that has been brought
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Right, but there's other ways men can sort of...
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I'm not, like, asking with some, like, fucking underlying, like, girl-skying-for-a-friend.
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But, I mean, is it surprising to you to hear a guy say that body count matters?
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I think when you're dating, you start asking those types of questions, you know?
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I was in a relationship for over a year, and we never asked each other that.
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Some people truly don't fucking go investigating into your past.
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And you even offer them shit, and they're like, I didn't really want to fucking smell that
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So, there's a few things, and I'll give you a couple reasons why men care about a woman's
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So, first off, throughout all of human history, and there's a cultural component to it, but
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there's also a biological and an evolutionary reason why men care about a woman's promiscuity.
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And I guess the first one I can give you is, well, throughout the vast majority of human
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history, men cared about sexual purity in women.
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And by the way, I want to make something clear.
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Women can say, hey, I don't want to date a guy who's a player.
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I don't want to date a guy who fucks hundreds of...
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I meant actually strictly from when you said the historical context.
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I'm like, in the past, it was all because of chastity and religiosity.
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Like, if the woman went outside and had sex before she was promised as a man, her dad
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would rather kill her than see her exist and be all deflowered and shit.
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It was like, strictly speaking historically, I'm not so sure.
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We told you at the beginning of the show, please, like, no cross-trod.
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We don't have headphones, so it's hard to tell.
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But if, like, multiple people are talking for the viewers...
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It's just very difficult if there's multiple people on the microphone.
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So, evolutionarily, men cared about promiscuity because if a woman's promiscuous, if she's
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sleeping with other people, she could get pregnant, and you cannot guarantee who the
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So, if she's slept with other people, you don't know who the child is.
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And there's something ingrained in men where we...
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It's a big fucking L for a dude to be raising another guy's kid.
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So, there's the evolutionarily hardwiring for men to be repulsed by promiscuity because
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Men don't want to be victims of paternity fraud.
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They want to raise their kid, not somebody else's kid.
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And not only is it a paternity thing, it would suggest infidelity.
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Someone who's more promiscuous is more likely to have an STD.
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So, someone who has a high body count, more likely to have an STD.
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At least for me personally, the thought of sleeping with a woman who fucked a guy the
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A guy came in her the night before, then I'm going to sleep with you.
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Then you must not pay for sex either, Brian, because, you know...
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Like, when you share your body with somebody, like, you know, like, you take a lot from
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There's definitely, in this society, all of that, I feel like...
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Let me just finish and then I'll let you come in.
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The few other reasons is, if a woman has had a lot of sexual partners, she's less likely
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She's less likely to be able to fall in love with you.
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The incidence rate of infidelity is greater if she has a high body count.
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Reporting relationship dissatisfaction is more likely.
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So, the more people you sleep with, and they've done studies on this, there's a greater incidence
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of breakups, greater incidence of divorce, greater incidence of infidelity, greater incidence
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And a woman who's slept with 100 people is just not going to be able to attach to you
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in the same way that a girl who's slept with one, two, three guys are going to be able to.
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I mean, that's all, like, super framed from, like, today's standpoint.
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So, fair enough, like, if that's, like, everything's from that reference, like, also, not a single
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man out there trying to make it in the world with ladies.
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So, I can't really relate, like, even on that level.
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But there's definitely times in the actual history where there are societies where they
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didn't mind that the men and women were so close that men realized they might be actually
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raising the children of their fucking neighbor or something because they all were co-siring
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So, just saying, it's all about context and where you're at.
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So, yeah, yours is here and now, and I get that.
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Well, I mean, I'm not sure what societies those are, but overwhelmingly.
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I mean, I wish I didn't study up to come here, so I don't, like, have it on, like, a cue
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Like, you know, I, like you, have seen documentaries.
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There definitely is that thing where I remember that this has been a thing, and I thought, oh,
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that's fucking weird because no one in today's society would ever be able to hang with this
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But it was, like, literally almost exactly what you said, which is just that the men
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and women were all so close and all intermingling so much that no one fucking knew who the fuck's
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kids were, and they all just were a small enough society that it didn't matter.
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Well, I mean, I think the nuclear family has been valued throughout much of human history,
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and it's only in recent times that we've seen the destruction of the nuclear family.
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Does anybody, I mean, we had a bit of back and forth.
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There's someone who can explain this far better than I can.
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You know, I'm not quite as articulate and well-spoken as the following individual we're
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Yeah, you're going to have to scroll down to, uh, it's in, uh, yeah, there we go.
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We're going to do, we're going to react to the, uh, body count clip.
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You know what's so attractive about younger women?
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Because we, a lot of these dudes talk about fertility and looks and stuff.
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I think that in the modern world, in the days of old, right, you'd meet a woman, you'd get
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In the modern world, if I meet a girl who's 33 and single, I know the amount of dick that's
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been through her before me is just simply unattractive.
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I don't care how nice you are, but you're 33 years old.
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If I get a 19-year-old girl, I might be her second or third man, right?
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And all the trauma and heartbreak and bullshit they put you through, you're going to try
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Like, well, if my last man cheated, I don't give a fuck.
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So, if you pick up older women, you have to accept they've been on the carousel longer.
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And when I see a beautiful young woman, I know that she has a very low body count.
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And that, and also, no, but the truth is this, women's mentality is absolutely connected
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If a woman sleeps with a bunch of men, it's harder to penetrate her mind and make her fall
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But if she's had 30 dudes inside of her, is she really going to think, you know what,
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Or is she going to think, you know what, he talked to me real quick, I'll just go get
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Whereas if a woman's only been with a few guys, she's much more likely to fall in love
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The likelihood of her falling completely in love with you and staying loyal to you and
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really believing you're the only man for her after being through so much trauma and
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so many men and sleeping with so many dudes and having her heart broken and having those
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memories of her ex and all that crap she's been through is far less likely than meeting
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a nice, young, beautiful girl who hasn't been with many men.
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And she goes, you know what, this is the guy I like.
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Every woman who knows this and every man who watches this can be honest.
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Women fall in love with the person they lose their virginity to or the second or third guy
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they really remember them, they really love them.
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Any woman who slept with 50 dudes, she doesn't even remember who most of them are, she doesn't
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If a woman slept with a bunch of men before you, she's less likely to stick it out through
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a difficult period in a relationship, she's more likely to just say, you know what, new
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If I meet a beautiful 30-year-old woman, I'm not saying I won't sleep with her.
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Honestly, he spoke really fast and it was kind of quiet.
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I mean, I think I got the gist of what I was saying.
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I, too, couldn't really tell what that guy was talking about, but he seemed really passionate.
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Some people here at the table could hear, right?
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I mean, we watched this video last time, so I've already said my thoughts on it in the past.
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I mean, he did mention about heartbreak and trying to move on and having this other person be stuck on somebody else.
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I mean, we've probably all been in that situation, right?
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So, as far as the body count, I don't know if that matters, but that's my reaction to it.
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Yeah, I mean, he was definitely passionate about it, and it's, like, super opinionated, and he super feels like he's right.
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I mean, yeah, he has a lot of his own opinions, but, I mean, we all have our own, like, own opinion on body count.
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I just think the body count should be a preference if you want, if you care.
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I think it's, like, the importance you give to sex.
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Like, it doesn't matter, like, the body count you have.
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It depends, like, how you view sex and you're a loyal partner, and, yeah, I respect his opinion, honestly.
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If you don't want a girl with a high body count, then don't be with that girl.
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Find a girl with a low body count, and if you think that she's not capable of love with a high body count, I don't think that's true.
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Yeah, date a boy if you don't want a girl with a high body count.
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Or you could just date a woman with a low body count.
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I just don't think, a woman with a high body count, I think they're capable of love.
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Like, the more sexual partners you have, it does shift your ability to pair bond.
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I'm a man of God, so I don't reveal my body count.
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I'm a very discreet individual, so I don't answer that question.
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You guys could have omitted answering if you were so inclined.
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Didn't you, like, ask the chat hers what they thought hers would be when she tried to omit?
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Chat, if you want, you can try to guess my body count.
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I mean, I'm being flippant about that comment, but.
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Yeah, that was the most, that was a very milquetoast response to Andrew Tate that usually triggers
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people, but okay, we're going to answer a couple super chats here, so let's just see.
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Spider-Man girlfriend, this question is directed to you.
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If so, please go into details where you have been.
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Maybe you should check to see if he's sent you the cash app money.
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I'm like, is he assuming I'm Mexican, or is that just him being, like, just a bit in Mexico
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I've never been to Mexico, but it seems like a beautiful country.
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Okay, just, I was trying to remember people, it's, yeah, not related at all.
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Okay, we got Mike Dust here with the $10 soup chat.
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You don't need to sleep with a hundred guys to learn how to give a good BJ.
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The Dark Knight with the $10 soup chat for the, thank you, man.
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For the ones that said body count doesn't matter, please share your body count.
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Chances are you won't be honest, thus proving why it's important to most men.
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I think all of them shared their body count except for someone at the table.
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Rule number 76, no excuses, play with a champion.
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Somebody say, is your name Anna or Lisa, making your DMI.
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We'll go around the table really quick on this.
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Never thought about it, but, I mean, I don't think so.
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But, I mean, hey, like, if it happens, it happens.
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But, when I first started dating my most recent ex, his best friend told me he was trans, and I was, I thought he was for a second.
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Okay, Richard Joy, thank you for the $10 soup chat.
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Okay, really quick, like, have you left the United States?
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You can send me some money, then I'll answer that question.
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Okay, Richard Joy, with the billion, with the billion dollar maple syrup conglomerate.
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We need a $500 soup chat for her to answer this question.
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Okay, so, we're going to react to another video.
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Sorry, we got a bus or something passing by here.
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So, we're going to do the first one, how much money.
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Today, I'm going to be asking girls, how much money should a guy make per year?
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So, my question for you is, how much money do you think a guy should make per year?
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I mean, if I'm, like, dating them, it'd be nice if they were at least making $100,000.
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Someone that you would consider wanting to be a dresser life.
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Just because, like, that's a stable income, I said.
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No, that's, $500,000 is, like, on a good day, yeah.
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I think, I mean, I like when guys, like, pay for dates and stuff.
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So, if a guy made $30,000 a year, is that something you're okay with?
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I wouldn't really say I would have a price on that.
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Minimum six figures, no matter what the situation is.
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We've got to get good skincare, routine, you know, the whole nine yards.
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Once we get to a certain age, like, I don't know.
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No, I'm planning on just, like, supporting myself.
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So, I don't really plan on being supported by the person that I'm dating.
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I could have, like, a nice, like, subtle life with, like, a $200,000 a year.
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What's the lowest, though, that you would go for?
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Okay, so, um, that's from the Daily Dropout, by the way.
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It wasn't the full video, but you kind of get the idea.
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So, um, your guys' reaction to that, and also, if you just want to answer the question,
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Yeah, and I mean, I know some of you are in college, so you're probably not overly concerned
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with finances at this point, but maybe if you want to answer, like, hey, this is going
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to be, maybe when you get married, the guy who's going to be your husband or your life
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I want to be the breadwinner for the relationship, so less than me.
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So he, well, you're currently in a relationship now, so-
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I mean, he doesn't have to, but I think I'd like to flex on that a little bit.
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Okay, how much are you going to make, do you think?
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Are you going to- well, you said your current occupation is go-go dancing.
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Is that going to be- is there continuity there, or are you working on something else?
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Yeah, right now, I don't really think a guy's finances matter, but in the future, I want
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to be a lawyer, so I think as long as his income is around mine, as long as he's just
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not like- I mean, as long as he's not like sitting on the couch, like unemployed, eating
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potato chips, like, I think we're going to be fine.
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Like, as long as he has that drive and determination, like, that's what it's more about other than
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Like, I don't care if he makes more or less than me, as long as we're both like working
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the same, you know, working just as hard as each other.
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But is there like a bare minimum, for example, that you'd want a partner to make?
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It just depends how old we are and like where we are in our lives, you know?
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I don't- see, I don't know enough about finance to know how much I'd be making at that point.
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So, what kind of- you said you want to become an attorney, correct?
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Do you know what kind of law you want to practice?
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Gosh, I think I want to do- I want to do contract- I want to do contract law and copyright.
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So, intellectual property stuff, maybe some business.
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But my passion is like doing like the, like on the side, like pro bono work.
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And so, do you have a sense of how much money you think you'll be making?
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Because attorneys can do- I mean, you might be making anywhere from 100 to 200K.
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I don't expect someone to like- like, I don't know.
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Like, if I'm making like 50K, I don't expect my partner to like be making a million 500K.
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But like, if that so happens, it's nice because I know like that's someone where it's like
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if we started a family, my children would have like that like safety cushion.
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I'm not going out looking for guys like you have to have this- it must be this rich to ride,
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So, let's say you end up at 30, you're an attorney, you're making $200,000 a year.
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How much would you like your partner to be making?
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But if he's making less, like, and I love him, like, that's love, you know, as long as
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he's working, as long as he has that determination.
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So, you wouldn't have an issue being the primary breadwinner then?
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So, you'd, like, pay for his stuff, pay for dates, pay for trips, stuff like that?
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Like, I probably wouldn't want to, like, like I said, like, if our incomes are, like, if
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he's making $500 a year and I'm making $500,000 a year, that's a problem.
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But, like, I'd want to have a relationship where things-
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Just because, like, we're obviously not on the same level then.
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Like, if I'm, like, making $500,000, like, there are things where it's, like, I just need
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to be at a point in my life where I'm settling down with someone who's also making enough
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Where it's, like, I wouldn't want to have to just give all my money to them.
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I'd want to give some of it to charity where it's just a lot of factors that go into it.
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And I think money's important, but it's not everything.
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No, I completely agree with what you're saying.
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If you're, you know, spending more than you're making, that's a big issue also.
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I learned that a lot as a teenager, just, like, you know, living within your means because
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So, I think spoiling each other is very important.
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And I think depending on where you're living and what your rent and, like, your cost of life
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should determine, like, each other's money income, I suppose.
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So, do you have a sense of how much you'd want your current partner, maybe when...
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Oh, he's on his way to, like, medical school, which is awesome.
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Yeah, but, like, I actually have a real answer.
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I don't want to give my actual answer, but I can say this.
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To live in this fucking community, like, you definitely need to be combined making.
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Like, if you want to live comfortably and above 30% of everything going towards just rent and cost of living, you're going to have to be making over $120,000 a year.
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I'm saying combined, that means two of you together, which, to the people who are like, it's only $60,000 that you make, that's two of you could be making that.
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So, but just being realistic, guys, this is a community where you can't make under $100,000 together and survive here very comfortably.
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Yeah, definitely the cost of living in Santa Barbara is very high.
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I wouldn't necessarily think that, I mean, I don't really have an amount, but as long as he's not, like, financially dependent on me, or, like, constantly asking me to pay for things, like, that would get annoying.
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Like, spoiling each other, I think that's really important, especially in a relationship.
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But if you, like, truly love the person, I don't think it really matters.
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But, I mean, if you love the person, I don't know.
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Well, I mean, I want to be a lawyer, too, and I wouldn't have, like, a problem if, like, my partner made less than I did, as long as he put an effort to live comfortably and provide a good, like, household for, like, children, like, potentially.
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Like, I, when I date, I think, like, this man could potentially be the father of my kids.
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So, if he's okay with, like, if I make more money than him, then that's all right, you know?
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But I'm not going to say, like, a specific amount.
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So, obviously, right now, finances are not particularly important.
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But, let's say, when you're 30, do you have a sense of a number?
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Like I said, just to live comfortably and provide, like, a good home for, like, potential kids.
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I mean, for number-wise, I have my own business.
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And the last time I checked, I make around $40,000 a year.
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And I was financially, like, a guy was financially dependent on me, which sucked.
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And so, I definitely don't want that ever again.
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But I guess in the future, let's say I'm 30, my business is thriving, I'm living great,
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and I have whatever business salon, whatever that goes to,
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I definitely would like my husband or future partner to make definitely a round.
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I don't mind making more, but if it's in the same kind of ballpark, that's kind of what I would want.
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I mean, more definitely was nice, but I definitely would like to be spoiled.
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Didn't you say on the last time you were on the show that you were a simp?
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Oh my god, I went to brunch with someone I paid.
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So you guys would date a broke guy, is what I'm understanding.
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Like I said, I would want to date someone who, if potentially was a father of my kids,
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See, I think men and women differ a little bit on this one.
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I think men really could care less about a woman's finances.
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I mean, maybe guys who are, if they're kind of financially struggling, they care.
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But I would say that men and women share their resources a little bit differently.
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I mean, I know you're a simp, so I mean, that's a bit, I'm teasing you, by the way.
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I know you're a bit of an outlier, but like most women do not share their resources with
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men the same way that men share their resources with women.
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At least that's been my experience when it comes to dating.
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There's some girls that are simps out there that they'll do the same shit.
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But like, I've had a girl one time on a date, she bought me a burrito.
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Otherwise, either I'm paying or I'm going to split the bill.
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I remember the last time I was here, we were talking about like who pays.
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And like, this definitely was a red flag with this guy.
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I mean, he's in the military, which is a red flag for me.
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But I mean, I planned everything, which was kind of pissing me off.
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I mean, he's from Ventura, but lives in San Diego.
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So, you, you, your own free will, you went on a date with a guy that does not live in
02:17:19.820
I thought he lived in, I thought he lived in Ventura.
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You shouldn't even be dating a guy who lives in Ventura.
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I wouldn't mind, see, I wouldn't mind the 45 minutes.
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If he would want to drive and come see me and stay over maybe for a day or two, we could
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Personally, I didn't mind the, like, the distance for Ventura.
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I don't care if she's a Victoria's Secret model.
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Yeah, the first thing he said when we were hanging out was the first thing he said to
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He paid for bowling, which I'm fine with it because it was more expensive than food.
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So I want to, before we do our next video reaction, I want to touch on, we were previously talking
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And a few of you said, well, what's wrong with you if you need an escort?
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And I want to make the, I want to have this conversation.
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Who do you guys think dating is easier for, men or women?
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And perhaps I should frame it, who is it, who's it easier to get sex?
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Or who's it easier for to get laid, men or women?
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I think it, I think it depends on who asks first, if that makes sense.
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I mean, I, I answered it in the last one, but yeah, definitely easier for girls.
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Like I could, I could text someone and be like, hey, come over.
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Um, again, I am not a man, so I can't speak from experience, but, um.
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I, I can show you DMs where like men are like desperate asking for sex.
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Um, yeah, it's, it's quite, I feel like it's way easier for women to get sex.
02:20:13.280
Um, so you think it's way easier for, for women to get sex?
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You don't say, you don't have to say names, but like, what'd they say?
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Um, I like this person probably is watching, but he like.
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Um, he just like randomly sends me a video of him like with his dick.
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Thinking like, he's like, wait, wait, like I'm missing.
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Like I've been really clear about my intentions.
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How are you still friends after he sent you a picture of his dick?
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Cause guys will send them randomly and they think, Oh my God, they're, she's going to love
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Like, you know, I don't know because I've never sent a dick pic.
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I don't understand the psychology there with the whole dick pic thing.
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There's some, there's some deep eye contact going on on this side of the table.
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The difference between, I don't send nudes, but the difference between like nudes, girl
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sent and guy sent, they just send a picture of their dick in the toilet.
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Girls like at least like, at least they try to make it look cute, you know, and like
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So at least like they're putting some work to it.
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Not just like, I want to make them back to something.
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As, as a fan, you know, you know, I, I didn't, I've removed this from the intro.
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Um, it, it is deeply offensive that women are shamed if they have a large labia.
02:22:41.340
There are some terrible terms that are thrown out there and I'm also, Hey, egalitarian here.
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I think we shouldn't be shaming men for their peens.
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I just, I just don't want to be like at my like 9am class, like looking, opening that
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But that's, that's actually kind of like, that's kind of terrifying as a girl.
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Like, cause you, you guys, you said you're friends, right?
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That's some weird boundary shit going on there.
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I mean, she, that was a great example that happened today.
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So I, I mean, yeah, I think that for women it's a lot easier.
02:23:32.780
I mean, especially on social media, you have Snapchat, Instagram, like they can just pop
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I just think like attractive people have it the easiest.
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Like whether you're a man or a woman or anything on the spectrum between those two.
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Um, yeah, like for sure the attractive ones are getting theirs.
02:23:58.020
I agree with that, but I would say that even an average looking woman has much easier access
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to sex than even like a really good looking guy.
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But if that really good looking guy has a wallet and on the other side of his fucking pants
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Yeah, because who's having sex with that average looking woman?
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Like to have sex, like, I mean, like gay sex exists, of course, but I assume you're referring
02:24:31.860
Eric, can you pull up the, uh, can you pull up the hypergamy chart?
02:24:47.200
So you mentioned that, you mentioned that, well, in order for an average girl to be sleeping
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with someone, she must be sleeping with someone, but it's not one-to-one ratios here.
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So hypergamy, on the left you have whom men would happily partner with, and on the right
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you have whom women would have happily partner with, and so basically, what you, what you
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have happening is the top 10, top 20% of men are, have the lion's share of sex, let's
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say, so, because women date across and up socioeconomically, they sleep across and up
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socioeconomically, um, and I mean, there's other hierarchies too, so, in response to that,
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and you see this on dating apps, basically, you have 80% of the women that are chasing
02:25:32.200
after the 20% of the men, so, yeah, there is a guy having sex with that average woman,
02:25:44.780
I get what you're saying, so you're like, basically, the top 10% of men, all women want
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Those other guys just need to get, like, more riz.
02:25:58.620
Girls are attracted to, like, it's like confidence, essentially, sorry, it's like a, that's like
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But, uh, it's like, you know, just like confidence, like, you know.
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I don't know, maybe guys should be more, uh, you get, you said guys are choosy with who
02:26:17.360
No, women are, women are choosy with who they fuck.
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But I thought guys were, cause, like, with the body count thing, guys were choosy, so
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how is it that they're fucking just any woman on the chart?
02:26:25.960
Well, I would say, so with the body count thing, I would say men that don't have a lot
02:26:30.680
of options, they will partner with a girl who has a high body count because they can't
02:26:36.400
But, uh, when it comes to, when it comes to relationships, yes, it is, men do value,
02:26:47.060
So they are a bit more choosy when it comes to who they're gonna marry and who they're
02:26:57.260
Yeah, I think it just depends on how attractive you are at the end of the day.
02:27:04.200
Also, when you say, like, it's easier for women or men to date rather than, like, hook
02:27:13.140
I don't think it's easier for men or women to date, but it's easier for women to, like,
02:27:19.760
hook up with someone, but I don't think it's easier for women to date.
02:27:29.800
Some guy's talking to me, he's like, are you a girl?
02:27:52.140
But, I mean, I sort of agree with you, but I would say that actually, like, dating is
02:28:02.740
Not to the degree that getting laid is, but it's still easier for women.
02:28:09.660
But there are two different things, but definitely a big other percentage.
02:28:31.160
How do you scientifically measure a track list?
02:28:43.800
I don't know if you guys are familiar with the dating app, OKCupid.
02:29:00.720
So this data, I mean, it's probably a couple years old, but I mean, it's still.
02:29:04.880
It's actually probably worse now in today's day and age than it was back then, but it's
02:29:12.700
So what in terms of the attractiveness component of this discussion, number of messages received
02:29:24.740
So the most attractive men in terms of messages received is about commensurate with like an
02:29:32.080
So an average looking woman is getting the equivalent attention that a very, very attractive
02:29:39.340
I think women are just less likely to like make the first move is what this graph is showing.
02:29:47.080
I'm not saying like you're completely incorrect.
02:29:48.740
I don't know enough about the subject, but I'm just saying like correlation does not exactly
02:29:54.340
And like, I think a lot of the times like a girl wants to feel special.
02:29:59.380
It's not necessarily that like, oh, I'm a guy and it's harder.
02:30:02.580
Like, it's just a bad mentality to have, I think, where it's just like, it's important
02:30:07.720
to make the first move and be polite to a woman you're trying to court, you know?
02:30:11.840
Do you want a guy to make the first move with you?
02:30:20.220
OK, just really quick around the panel, just yes or no.
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Would you prefer the guy to make the first move?
02:30:36.840
So most of you said you'd prefer the guy to make the first move.
02:30:41.480
But I thought I thought you guys believed in equality.
02:30:51.200
Like you said, I don't know, like I just have that.
02:30:54.680
How is that not equal to want a guy to approach me?
02:30:58.480
I just like to, you know, be with a guy who's confident.
02:31:01.140
I think approaching me first shows that you're confident.
02:31:03.280
It shows that you're like willing to take that approach.
02:31:05.180
But like I don't think you're any less of a man if you don't approach me.
02:31:11.020
And even still, if I have to make the first move in a case, that's not going to like completely
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like delineate like a guy's attractiveness to me.
02:31:17.420
Wait, but you just said that if the guy's not confident enough to approach you, that's
02:31:22.560
probably not the type of guy that you would date.
02:31:25.500
But like I'm sure there are certain cases, like not everything's black and white.
02:31:28.760
Like I'm sure there are times I've approached a guy and like I've actually ended up liking
02:31:38.140
But like I do prefer for a guy to approach me first.
02:31:41.360
Like it's just nice like knowing like a guy saw me and like thought I was special enough
02:31:58.160
I'm sure I've, I've given a guy a phone number.
02:32:06.260
I mean, so I was a cashier, so he kind of had to, so he could buy a chicken sandwich.
02:32:17.120
So I guess, you know, I guess that would count as me approaching him because I did give him
02:32:23.260
Well, there was, well, so I mean, he was ordering a sandwich, right?
02:32:26.720
Well, that doesn't, he didn't approach me like, oh, I want to talk to this girl.
02:32:35.260
This is a while back, but like it still happened.
02:32:38.760
But you thought, you thought he was attractive.
02:32:47.840
Uh, you know, he was just too old for me at the time.
02:32:51.500
I was still in high school and like, oh, well, I was, I was, you know, a senior and
02:32:56.940
he was like, you know, a few years older where it wasn't like anything scary, like a 30 year
02:33:01.200
But like, you know, when you're that young, like, I feel like it's important to like,
02:33:05.260
enjoy your childhood and like, be around people who are your own age and like, you know, not
02:33:10.920
And like, even though this is a few years back, like, I still think that even though I, I'm
02:33:15.500
not with that person anymore, like I learned a lot of important lessons from that relationship.
02:33:20.260
That's like the best part of it, you know, moving on and learning.
02:33:25.660
I personally, I mean, I, I'll like come out to like Ivy and like go party.
02:33:29.240
I will walk up and down DP and like compliment any guy.
02:33:39.880
I'll be, I'll just like tap him on the shoulder and be like, Hey, you're cute.
02:33:54.460
Kind of on the topic of that, um, has a guy with a blue check mark ever slid into your
02:34:09.520
Has a guy with the blue check mark ever slid into your DMs?
02:34:26.680
You've had like dozens of guys with blue check marks slide into your DMs?
02:34:33.780
I think it's, I think it's that pink car of yours.
02:34:44.580
When you're, when you're a rich, successful attorney.
02:34:50.320
Dismantling the patriarchy one lawsuit at the time.
02:34:58.340
Can you guys say like athletes, musicians, you don't say their name.
02:35:14.080
Technically not like a player, but in the basketball, like.
02:35:39.560
Like, I don't, I'm not a fan, but I'm just saying.
02:35:51.020
Anyways, I'm a fucking, fucking over the hill YouTuber.
02:36:07.840
By the way, I just want to make like, for romantic, it's clear he's like romantically interested,
02:36:13.320
Um, he wasn't even, he was from Europe, so I don't think it was in the NBA, but he wasn't, um.
02:36:30.340
European, yes, because he was freakishly tall, but.
02:36:39.780
Like, uh, you did a few days ago, so I guess that counts.
02:36:45.520
No, no, but that was from the whatever account DMing you to.
02:36:49.240
Well, that was a blue check mark in my DMs, bitch.
02:36:51.860
You didn't fucking suppose that until just now.
02:37:03.940
I have, I haven't, but I've also been with the same person for the past 13 years on and
02:37:08.780
off again, so it's not like I'm trying to get the blue check marks in there, baby.
02:37:13.780
Tim McGrail says, Tim McGrail says, Anna and Brian should have their own podcast.
02:37:28.040
She, I'm down to have you come back on, but I feel like I pissed you off thoroughly, so
02:37:42.580
We're, we're, we're gonna, we're gonna wrap up probably 20, 20, 30 minutes, I reckon.
02:37:58.140
I didn't even, like, recognize him, so I'm not even gonna lie.
02:38:08.900
Sorry, that, that's her Instagram handle, so I always.
02:38:11.640
I've had a few, one, like, stands out more than the other, just because I knew who he
02:38:17.720
The other ones, they have, like, a few hundred, they'll have, like, a few, like, they'll have,
02:38:22.380
like, 15, 20,000 followers, but they're still verified.
02:38:28.240
He did a lot of, like, TikTok, um, like, popular, like, really popular songs.
02:38:47.180
I had to make sure you didn't actually do nothing.
02:38:49.980
All right, so we're going to do, hmm, which one?
02:39:08.300
Just talking, catching feelings, sleeping together, and ending up in situationships.
02:39:22.460
I was like, I was like, respectfully, whoever that is.
02:39:37.520
Yo, chat, what's going on with Tasha, by the way?
02:39:40.700
Did she, someone told me that, uh, did she delete her OF?
02:39:52.540
They were for, sometimes you guys are funny, but sometimes you aren't.
02:39:59.800
Like, sometimes they're, like, kind of, like, rude, but sometimes, whoever said, pick Anna
02:40:19.040
Okay, um, so you guys just weren't even, you just thought she was hot, so.
02:40:33.260
I mean, I've, I definitely, like, that cycle, I definitely have been in, um, not recently,
02:40:38.800
not recently, but in the past, I've definitely been in those, like, the same cycle over and
02:40:43.060
It gets to where it's, like, weird, where you don't know where, what you guys are, but
02:40:47.680
you're hanging out all the time, sleeping together, whatever, and then it doesn't, and
02:40:51.620
then it gets to the question of what are we, and then they freak out, and they're, like,
02:40:54.460
oh, no, like, I don't want anything, but then they've been hanging out with you constantly
02:40:58.140
and, like, doing couple of things, and then when you ask the question of, like, what are
02:41:03.300
we, then they kind of just stop, at least for me, personally, but it's the same cycle
02:41:14.980
Um, it's kind of been, like, if we're, if you're treating me as a friend, I'm going to
02:41:18.240
treat you as a friend, until you say we're dating, or we're in a relationship, that's
02:41:29.340
Let's do, um, let's do, um, okay, the ED one, Eric, just the one right above, yeah.
02:41:39.520
So, does it take two and a half months to get a consistent erection, or two and a half months
02:41:44.200
until you even feel comfortable engaging in sexual intercourse?
02:41:47.540
No, I would say two and a half months for consistency, like I, like I know I can be.
02:41:58.840
It only happens when I really care about the woman, so that's the crazy thing.
02:42:02.120
Like, if it's just, if I'm in Vegas and I had a one-night stand, I'm Superman, which
02:42:08.200
And it's, it's wild, because there's so many things you, there's so many factors to it.
02:42:15.700
He, he gets, I guess he gets ED, and it doesn't get better until, like, he's had more
02:42:26.660
So, is it a, is it a wrap if, like, the first time or the first few times you hook up with
02:42:31.580
a guy, like, he struggles in the bedroom or the sex isn't that great?
02:42:37.240
Unfortunately, I'm going to say yes, because sex is, like, super important for my relationship
02:42:43.660
So, I think that would definitely put a damper on, like, unless it was, like, something
02:42:46.580
they were open to discussing, like, immediately, I'd say it is an issue.
02:42:56.600
I mean, just, like, having a conversation about, like, hey, like, I have this thing where,
02:42:59.880
like, I can't really get it up, but I do find you attractive.
02:43:03.280
I mean, like, I feel like if he's open about talking about it, it's definitely more of a
02:43:09.780
You know, if a guy, like, I mean, sex isn't everything to me, but, like, it is important
02:43:13.880
where it's, like, if a guy performs bad once, I'll give him another chance.
02:43:17.000
But if he's consistently performing in a way where it's, like, our bodies are obviously
02:43:27.900
I actually used to have a problem with, like, getting aroused with some partners because
02:43:36.940
And that definitely, like, I couldn't, like, nothing would make me happy unless I was literally
02:43:44.720
in front of my computer or on my phone just looking up random different shit.
02:43:50.920
So it definitely affected a lot of my relation, like, maybe relations.
02:44:00.260
But now I have a really healthy relationship with somebody who's, you know, accepted of
02:44:05.220
that of me, you know, because we've talked about it.
02:44:10.300
I'm the person with the, like, erectile dysfunction, you know?
02:44:20.260
They say you look like, do you want to fire some shots back at a Zom?
02:44:37.680
Annalisa's been definitely firing off some comments.
02:44:42.580
Either way, you're talking about me, aren't you?
02:44:50.040
Did anyone else want to give their reaction to it?
02:44:58.860
So I don't think they'll be, like, a rule breaker.
02:45:08.400
I was in this situation with my last relationship.
02:45:12.480
We, like, didn't really have sex for that reason.
02:45:30.940
So, but definitely takes a toll on, like, how you think about yourself, I'd say.
02:45:37.740
Is the only problem the dick in this situation?
02:45:40.780
Like, he can just not get his dick hard for, like, two months?
02:45:48.520
And not, and when he likes her too much, he said it's the problem.
02:45:52.820
Well, like, then as long as he's got, like, you know, like, he chews a lot of gum.
02:45:58.960
Like, he really knows how to, like, use his jaw and get down where it matters.
02:46:11.400
Like, as long as he can be munching in the meaty middle part when he can't get his dick hard.
02:46:19.680
So, for, like, a month and a half, he can just eat you out.
02:46:21.900
And then after two months, maybe he can finally fuck you.
02:46:24.980
And you're just like, I guess I'm a really pretty princess this whole time.
02:46:53.260
The dudes who I know who are so good on the first date.
02:46:55.500
You know why they're so good on the first date?
02:46:59.420
The guy who's really good at the job interview.
02:47:01.440
And you know why he's good at the job interview?
02:47:05.640
The guy who's good on the first date, he's good because he keeps going on first dates.
02:47:09.100
If I introduce you to this dude and he's like nervous, he's fumbling, he's like, I don't really know what to order here at Mastro's.
02:47:18.700
The mother f***er makes, you know, $3.50 a year as a neurosurgeon.
02:47:27.020
The mother f***er doesn't know how to do any of this stuff.
02:47:28.440
And all he wants is a woman to just like share his life with and spoil the s*** out of her.
02:47:35.440
And you come back to your girlfriends and you're like, yeah, he was just kind of weird.
02:47:39.320
And then you go, f*** your toxic ex that night right after your date.
02:47:47.520
And that perfect dude for you, you didn't give him a chance.
02:47:50.800
You didn't give him a chance because he wasn't exciting enough.
02:47:54.740
There's a body type where I just literally can't say no to.
02:47:59.260
So, well, we don't care about the body type thing.
02:48:16.480
I don't – if you're, like, really, let's say, like, easy going on that first date,
02:48:20.940
it does not mean you've been on a bunch of first dates over and over and over again.
02:48:25.080
I don't think that – like, one amazing, great first date,
02:48:28.540
I don't think that determines that this guy is on a repeat of going on first dates.
02:48:36.000
But I think what he's trying to get at is that if a guy is nervous on the first date,
02:48:40.960
maybe he's not coming across as super confident.
02:48:43.440
Like, maybe he doesn't have a lot of experience going on dates.
02:48:50.000
And there's also the whole, like, the click chemistry connection thing.
02:48:54.240
A guy who's nervous on the first date is not going to elicit the click,
02:48:59.140
whatever the fuck that bullshit means, from a woman.
02:49:05.440
The first date I just went on on Sunday, like, he didn't pay for the first –
02:49:12.320
And I talked to him about it afterwards because I was like,
02:49:14.640
hey, like, honestly, I couldn't tell if you're feeling me or not.
02:49:17.680
Like, I don't know, should we continue this or whatever.
02:49:21.760
But definitely first dates are, like, the biggest first impression on me.
02:49:25.180
If you have a great first date and blah, blah, blah, like,
02:49:31.380
But if it's, like, kind of dry and not really flowing as well,
02:49:35.320
then I'm probably not going to continue as well.
02:49:38.600
Unless, like, we talk about it and, like, hey, is everything okay?
02:49:43.280
But if it's just kind of quiet and, like, weird and just not matching right,
02:49:55.120
If I really care about the guy, I'll definitely get nervous.
02:49:58.680
I think it's really cute when a guy gets nervous and he really cares.
02:50:01.920
And he, like, puts an effort, whether he's confident or not.
02:50:04.600
If he's, like, invested into the date, I think that's amazing.
02:50:09.580
I think it's a difference between being nervous
02:50:11.840
and not flowing as well as you should together.
02:50:18.600
I mean, I personally am not nervous on a first date.
02:50:20.980
I will talk your ear off and have a great time.
02:50:23.360
But I think there's a difference between being really nervous
02:50:27.260
or you're just kind of quiet and not really feeling it.
02:50:38.240
doesn't necessarily mean that, like, it's not going well.
02:50:41.420
I've also learned that having, like, almost no expectations
02:50:47.660
So, like, having no expectations for both of you is a safer way.
02:50:52.920
Okay, if you're going to read the chat, at least be visible to the camera.
02:51:00.300
You're hiding – you're just, like, behind the microphone.
02:51:10.740
Just having no expectations, just kind of walking away with, like,
02:51:23.320
If the difference between a guy going on first dates over and over again
02:51:33.320
Something about, like, a guy being nervous or something.
02:51:34.980
I don't care if a guy's nervous as long as he's nice to me and polite.
02:51:39.040
Earlier you said you want a guy who's confident.
02:51:42.060
Yeah, but I think it's, like, you know, I can't really –
02:51:44.940
I feel like it's wrong to me to be, like, oh, if a guy ever gets nervous
02:51:56.320
It'd just be wrong of me to say, like, oh, this person gets nervous around me.
02:52:00.320
Like, I think it's sweet as long as they don't let their anxiety, like,
02:52:07.100
I'm the anxiety person that just ruins our time.
02:52:13.080
Going back to the video, he said that, you know,
02:52:18.880
the guys who are really good on the first date are more often the guys
02:52:22.920
who are failing at relationships, and that's why they go on a lot of dates.
02:52:27.600
I can't really, like, speak from opinion on that one.
02:52:32.020
I don't – I haven't had that many first dates, I suppose.
02:52:35.280
I've been in one really long-term relationship, and now I'm in another one.
02:52:38.800
I think that the first date needs to be fun, and you guys need to definitely – you'll get a sense of, like, how you communicate
02:52:51.240
And I don't think it's an issue if he's nervous, but I do think if it's an issue, if the nervousness leads to really uncomfortable situations that I just wouldn't feel comfortable in.
02:53:06.920
I mean, you hear a lot of women say, oh, I didn't feel the chemistry.
02:53:16.620
So if a guy is not on point on a first date, it's a wrap for the vast majority of women.
02:53:24.120
You guys can say, oh, if he's nervous, it's okay.
02:53:29.680
Yeah, but that's not really going to be a detriment to you on a date.
02:53:35.360
I mean, I've liked someone really, like, a lot, and they were just like, yeah, you're just too anxious for me as a person.
02:53:40.100
But, like, men, we don't really look to women like, oh, she's got to be –
02:53:44.540
Like, a woman being confident is not, like, very low or even nonexistent on the totem pole of what guys find attractive in women.
02:53:54.120
Like, if you ask most women, the number one thing they'll say is, like, confident.
02:54:10.740
You look for a woman to be, like, have the personalities.
02:54:14.200
I would need to be with someone funny because, like, I'm just –
02:54:25.960
Have a great first date that, like, means something.
02:54:29.940
You're not like, eh, this is a boring first date.
02:54:38.300
Like, if sex is all you're offering, sex is all I want.
02:54:42.500
And I'm actually not interested in casual sex at all.
02:54:47.220
If I sleep with someone, I want to continue seeing them.
02:54:49.960
But – so, I would say women who are pleasant, who are feminine, who are cooperative, who –
02:55:17.260
If you don't have a connection with someone, then it's not going to work.
02:55:24.120
You have to have a connection with someone for it to work out and continue.
02:55:28.260
Which I guess is, like, woman code for just a feeling.
02:55:36.140
I mean, I put the spark in the same realm as, like, astrology and love at first sight.
02:55:41.900
Like, it – my sense of what women mean when they say the spark or chemistry or whatever
02:55:48.740
is that guy is so attractive – it's basically a guy is more attractive than you.
02:55:56.880
That could be physically attractive or it could be some sort of status or financially well-off
02:56:01.180
or personality traits, charisma, these sorts of things.
02:56:05.160
But, like, a super funny, ugly dude ain't going to do it for you.
02:56:10.840
I mean, for some women, it might, but I think that physical –
02:56:14.100
I don't think Pete Davidson is, like, proof that's not true.
02:56:19.820
There's some basic level of attraction that has to exist.
02:56:30.360
Would you marry him if he wasn't funny, though?
02:56:38.300
Well, I've seen, like, three people down here homeless who look at him.
02:56:41.160
If you've seen the guys I've dated, it would make sense.
02:56:55.100
So I can tell you some traits that men find attractive.
02:57:03.300
So I'll tell you, I will tell you some traits that men find attractive in women.
02:57:10.700
Feminine, fidelitous, and fidelitous from the jump.
02:57:15.280
So sexual faithfulness, this is kind of related to body count because a woman who's promiscuous
02:57:20.840
is going to be viewed as, you're just unattractive if, like, you're going on a, at least for
02:57:27.100
me, if I'm going on a date with a girl and she starts telling me, oh, I've been on four
02:57:36.780
But, like, if a girl tells me she's got two dates scheduled for the weekend, three dates,
02:57:41.120
I'm going to be like, okay, there's no future here.
02:57:50.480
I've been on dates with girls where they're open about it.
02:58:00.360
But, I mean, it's not right to say, but it's not a bad thing if she's going to go on other
02:58:04.100
Well, she's free to say it, but it's just unattractive.
02:58:07.580
Because that's your preference as far as, like.
02:58:11.720
So, like, I'm not, like, trying to, like, corner you or anything.
02:58:21.000
But, like, you're probably going on, like, a few dates with different girls.
02:58:24.000
Like, I'm not saying you're sleeping with a ton of people.
02:58:25.600
But, like, you might be, like, you know, talking to a few different girls at once.
02:58:28.680
Like, if a girl's doing the same thing, like, is that unattractive to you or is that, like, early enough in the relationship for it to be, like, okay to you?
02:58:36.000
Well, I mean, there's an assumption there that I'm talking to a whole bunch of women.
02:58:45.060
Have you ever, like, you know, like, before you, like, really get to know someone, like, there might be, like, a few women you're interested in.
02:58:50.880
Like, you know, you might not be entertaining them, but you're interested in them.
02:58:57.700
But, I mean, I would say, generally speaking, I'm very busy with what I do.
02:59:03.480
And there's some guys, I mean, I've tried it to kind of juggle a couple women.
02:59:12.720
I know some guys are going to not approve of that in the chat.
02:59:16.180
I mean, I've had a decent amount of experience.
02:59:18.300
And just, it's just time-wise, it's just, I have actual shit I want to achieve.
02:59:23.700
So, I'm like, it's just too much to be juggling multiple women.
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In your opinion, since you've been doing this with a lot of, because a lot of your videos have a bunch of girls,
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do you have, like, a different outlook on women now than you did even a year ago?
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I mean, the one thing that's rubbed me the wrong way is a lot of, I mean, I've had this experience with dating.
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A lot of women are incredibly flaky to the point where it's rude.
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Like, I've had, we were supposed to have two other girls tonight, for example.
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But the past 10 shows, we've had at least two no-shows.
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So, they don't even let me know that they're not going to come.
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So, I mean, and I've had experience, luckily, my dating experiences, I've had one girl stand me up.
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But I definitely get a lot of flaking romantically.
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So, I'd say, like, probably 30 to 40 to 50 percent of the girls, if I set up a date, it's not even a 24-hour notice thing.
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I'm not going to be able to get another girl on a Friday that night.
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Do you think it has anything to do with your social media status?
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Like, do you think they go looking up who you are and it kind of just changes them?
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There might be some girls that are put off by my takes.
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So, yeah, the podcast is new, but I was doing the pranks before.
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But, honestly, I just think, you can call me a, I mean, happens to be the case that I, most of the guys, most of the men in my, this is going to sound like them.
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But even if I'm inviting guys onto the podcast, they don't flake.
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Also, for girls, especially if they've never been on the podcast, it definitely is nerve-wracking.
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I feel like next time I would definitely be way better prepared.
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I'm definitely sure most of it, like, most of the time the girls flake, it's cold feet.
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I specifically set out a day for a group of five girls.
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So, I said, well, I can't get you on a Tuesday or Thursday, but I'll set aside a day for you.
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And not only that, though, two of them said, oh, I've got to study for this thing.
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And then, yeah, and then two of them said, oh, we have, I don't know.
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I look at their Instagram stories later that night.
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No, but that's what I'm saying is, like, people, we were having this discussion last show.
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You often hear women complain, oh, guys don't like to commit.
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Like, if I know, I'm like, okay, I don't think I'm going to be comfortable.
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So you think you can just fucking peace out at any minute.
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So if I had plans with someone back in the fucking 90s.
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They showed up at your house at the given time.
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If someone said they were going to be somewhere, they would be there.
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And if they didn't, they would be incredibly apologizing.
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Actually, Brian, now that you mentioned that, like, I've noticed on dates, like, a lot of guys
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I need to, like, I will confirm, like, confirm, you know, it's just timing.
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Well, yeah, you don't want to show up and then get flaked on.
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Especially if I'm going to get ready, I'm going to look good, and you're picking me up,
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Especially some guys just take forever to respond.
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If I'm getting ready, I'm spending my time to get ready and, like, look good or whatever.
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Like, they just will stop responding, and then last minute.
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I've never been flaked on, but I have been catfished.
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By the way, I just want to add to the flaking thing, unless you want to continue with your catfish story.
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So, most of the women I'm dating, I want to say, are mid-20s to early-30s.
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So, these are women who are, like, they're not 18 and 19.
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So, like, to me, it's kind of, like, it's, it's what, if I was going on a date with a girl who's 19, who's kind of, like, bubble.
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I would forgive it more if she was a bit younger, because it's just, like, but you're, like, I've had professional women who will cancel, like, two hours before the date.
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I mean, if they have a legitimate excuse, like, if they're sick, okay, are you, are they really sick, though?
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But, yeah, no, for, specifically for the show, just to answer your question, yeah, like, that has definitely changed my view of things a little bit, just because of the amount of flakes we get.
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Like, if you let me know the night before, like, hey, you can't make it, it kind of throws a little bit.
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It throws a little bit of a wrench into my plans, but at least I can find someone.
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Like, I'm telling you, the past 10 shows, two girls every single time, no-call, no-show.
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Also, with, like, my business, I get the same thing.
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Yeah, that's super, especially for you with your business.
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Like, a lot of my clientele is high schoolers, and they don't have a debit card or whatever
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But, anyways, like, I will be setting up all day.
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I'll be texting these girls the day before, even.
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I'll be like, hey, like, what do you want for your nails?
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I'm like, okay, let me wait it out a little bit.
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It'll be, like, 11 a.m., like, noon or whatever.
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I'm setting up for their appointment, and they just never respond, ever.
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If I'm like, okay, they're really not responding.
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Like, even if you respond last minute, you're not coming.
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And your nails look shitty anyway, bitch, because now you didn't show.
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They never, of course, never make an appointment again.
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Also, some days, if it's, like, okay, I'm going to end early, I'm okay with it.
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But depending on the day, I'm usually pretty pissed.
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I feel like for new clients, you should probably do that.
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Some kind of, like, even if it's a cash deposit.
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So, just to get back to the traits thing, just to answer, I think, your question.
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And then we'll finish up soup chats, and then we'll wrap.
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So, you're asking for, or was it you who was asking for traits that I look for on the first date?
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If you guys, this is, this is, by the way, this is what I think, this is a list that I believe of things.
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A list of things that men are looking for in women.
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So, if I can tell on the first date, like, she's going to be a fucking headache.
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If I can tell she's going to be a headache, like, I want a girl that brings me peace, you know?
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So, peaceful, pleasant, not quarrelsome, doesn't nag, gentle, innocent, modest, humble, demure, temperance, cooperative, submissive.
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Yeah, no, because it's, if you think about it, it's like that masculine energy, that feminine energy.
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You want that to complement each other and balance out.
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But, yes, to answer your question, demure is, like, kind of reserved, a bit modest, a bit shy.
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I mean, it's kind of, like, the same thing, but, like, conservative in, like, the fact, like, she's, like, very, like...
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I guess more modesty in her personality, like, humble.
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So, I don't want a girl who's, like, I'm a fucking queen.
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I want a nerdy fucking stem chick that doesn't party.
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I thought you meant, like, you want a girl who, like, doesn't, like, dress, like...
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Like, who doesn't dress in, like, a certain way.
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I don't really care too much about how a woman dresses, but, like...
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By the way, this is not necessarily everything, you know...
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You're not going to get all of these, probably.
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But this is generally what men are looking for.
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I thought you meant that was, like, your, like, strict age range.
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Well, I'd say, overall, I do have a preference for, say, between, like, 18 to 25.
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The thing is, though, is I don't think I'm quite at the level yet.
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At least at my age, status-wise or finance-wise, where I can really pull it off.
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But, no, most of the women I did, I'd say, are, like, mid to late 20s to early 30s.
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No, but, like, I don't have kids, so I don't want to date a woman who has kids.
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Like, so, I've tried to date women while there's maybe only one or two, like, single mothers
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Honestly, they're not, like, that, like, unreasonable.
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So, now I'm getting into some more physical stuff.
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All that other stuff was kind of more, like, personality-wise.
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Again, these are just things that men in general look for.
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If women can like men with big dicks, men can like women with large labia.
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For some men, that's their preference, you know?
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Doesn't currently or in the past do any type of sex work.
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Like I said, peaceful, pleasant, not quarrelsome, doesn't nag.
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But, these are some things that men want in women.
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If women can have a height preference, so can I.
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It's crazy for the high preference to be 4'10".
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Just because you won't date a dwarf or a little person,
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That's incredibly offensive to the little people.
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You get on, like, every ride at Disneyland still.
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But, okay, I would say the big ones for me is Peaceful.
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And, honestly, like, doesn't party and doesn't go to bars and clubs.
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Those are probably, like, that's the big one for me.
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Occasionally, I'll have, like, a beer or a glass of wine.
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I mean, like, obviously, not, like, a heroin addict.
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But, like, you know, like, someone who smokes weed, maybe.
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But if it was, like, interfering with her life, then it would be an issue.
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Yeah, I'm not super pressed if she smokes weed.
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I've never thought about, like, you know, someone having a big or small labia.
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I feel like the point industry really misleads us here because there's a lot of, like, labiaplasty up in there, too.
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I haven't seen that big of a variation, I guess.
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There are 10,000 women a year who undergo labiaplasty, and I think it's unfortunate.
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Because I can kind of understand, like, reconstructive if things are blown out.
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I mean, like, or better in downborn stuff as well.
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Yeah, because, like, I was, like, actually reading about it, how it's, like, based on what they see on porn.
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They always see, like, a specific type of vagina on porn sometimes.
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Yeah, but, like, you mean, like, the standard, you know?
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Unless they look up, like, big lips or whatever.
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But, yes, you do make a good point that I think it was more so a bit in the past.
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That there was, like, they wanted women who had Audis, so to speak, like, in centerfolds and on Playboy magazines and all that shit.
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But you can find, I know, I got a collection, bruv.
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But, no, so, but, no, women are getting this surgery.
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But it's also mostly, I think, there are definitely guys who will shame women.
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Like, she's got roast beef, beef curtains, wizard sleeve, Arby's, that shit.
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Because I've had partners who are, like, insecure about it.
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So of that list I read, did any of you guys have an issue with some of these preferences
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I mean, like, if that's what you're into, that's what you're into.
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As long as you're not expecting to do someone, like, you know, like, forcing someone into
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submission, which obviously I doubt you are, like, I think it's fine, you know, as long
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as it's all consensual and, like, everyone's happy in the relationship.
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Well, I mean, being submissive is, whoops, sorry.
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I mean, submissive is not something that's taken.
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Like, as long as it's all consensual, like, I don't see anything wrong with someone's
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Like, as long as, like, everyone's being safe and everyone's happy.
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I think it was the elf ears that did it for me.
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So, and I, just so, you know, we talked about some men's preferences.
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Now I want to talk about some women's preferences.
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So, here are some preferences I believe that women want.
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A man who is tall, not balding, has a full head of hair, muscular, fit, strong, didn't
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Just, not all women are going to want all these things, but these are some things that
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Nice forearms, wide shoulders, six-pack abs, large peen, clean shaven, or some women, like
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a mustache or a beard, dresses nicely, who can protect her, who can provide, who's confident,
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masculine, leader, decisive, dominant, ambitious, successful, financially well-off, matches or
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exceeds her income, matches or exceeds her level of education, matches or exceeds her
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socioeconomically, chivalrous, pays for dates, charming, witty, can carry a conversation,
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So, these are just some things men want and some things women want.
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So, I don't know if you guys want to give your response to that.
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I like guys who are silly and goofy and just like silly and goofy and fun and like kind
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of like big and tall and like just like a fun guy who's like dumb and goofy.
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For me, it's just like if they give the same effort I give, like that's enough.
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All the girls' credit score in a capitalistic society.
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I'm working on it, but then again, I'm only 18, so I would want one soon.
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So, I just want to clarify that I used to be a stripper.
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So, killer costume, Halloween week at Santa Barbara Spearman Brino.
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I want to, you know, we've talked a lot about a lot of things.
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Final thought or question I want to give you guys.
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Yeah, if you want to talk about your experience on the show or if you have a final question
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you want to ask related to dating, I want to give you guys one last opportunity before
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Just for men, I just want to say it's very important to be kind and polite to a woman who you even
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Would you date a guy who wore an American flag hat?
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Well, I just want to give a big thank you to the wonderful panel.
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You could have been doing anything else, but you were here with me.
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Actually, we're going to be live doing an interview tomorrow, and then I think we're
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going to be doing a one-on-one interview on Sunday, maybe, but definitely tomorrow.
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Otherwise, we'll be back with the Dating Talk Show Tuesday at 7 p.m. Pacific.
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