Whatever Podcast - Dating Talk #28

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00:02:08.820 And a quick question for the chat.

00:02:11.260 What city are you guys in?

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00:02:13.480 Anyways, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.

00:02:15.340 So please tell us your name, age, occupation, and or school major.

00:02:19.320 Go ahead.

00:02:20.420 Hi, I'm Lauren.

00:02:21.960 Hands in the mic.

00:02:23.260 I'm Lauren.

00:02:24.660 That's my name.

00:02:25.620 I'm from Potomac, Maryland, East Coast.

00:02:29.420 I'm a comm major at UCSB.

00:02:32.220 I thought you were about to say you were a communist.

00:02:36.280 Not quite.

00:02:38.480 Hi, I'm Allie.

00:02:39.880 I'm also from Potomac, Maryland.

00:02:41.580 We grew up together.

00:02:42.580 I'm a senior at UCSB, and I'm a comm major.

00:02:47.140 I'm Tara.

00:02:47.940 I'm a senior at UCSB.

00:02:49.960 I'm from L.A., and I'm a psychology and philosophy major.

00:02:54.800 Hi, I'm Ashley.

00:02:56.520 I am a licensed insurance agent, and I am from State Farm in San Yanez.

00:03:03.500 Did you say age?

00:03:04.900 29.

00:03:05.440 29, okay.

00:03:06.940 I'm Liv.

00:03:07.860 I'm 20 from Santa Barbara, and I'm a cosmetologist.

00:03:12.080 Hey, guys.

00:03:13.000 My name is Michael.

00:03:13.960 I am 23 years old.

00:03:15.520 I have my own cryptocurrency consulting business.

00:03:18.340 Check me out at cryptocurrency.consulting.

00:03:22.340 What's up, peeps?

00:03:23.280 My name is Chase.

00:03:24.060 27 years old, professional photographer and brand consultant.

00:03:28.040 Rock and roll.

00:03:28.740 Everyone's Instagrams are in the description.

00:03:30.280 Show them some love.

00:03:31.020 Give them a follow.

00:03:32.000 We're going to go back around the table.

00:03:33.460 So, current relationship status, longest relationship, and are you on a dating app?

00:03:37.820 And that includes seeking arrangements.

00:03:41.620 Exposed.

00:03:43.920 It's over.

00:03:45.640 So, yeah, I'm single.

00:03:48.400 I'm single.

00:03:50.760 Wait, what was the second question?

00:03:53.460 Longest relationship, are you on any dating apps?

00:03:55.780 Longest relationship was probably a year and a half, and, like, yeah, we're on dating apps,

00:04:01.700 seeking arrangements.

00:04:03.880 You're on seeking arrangements?

00:04:05.320 No.

00:04:07.480 It's a funny app.

00:04:09.620 So, you've been on it?

00:04:10.940 I've seen this site.

00:04:12.360 So, you've been on it?

00:04:13.420 We've dabbled.

00:04:14.580 You've dabbled.

00:04:15.700 We've dabbled.

00:04:16.680 Okay, how many sugar daddies do you currently have? 0.99

00:04:20.220 Two.

00:04:21.360 Yeah, off the record, maybe two or three.

00:04:23.920 But each of you?

00:04:25.180 No, we are a package deal.

00:04:27.280 Yeah, we have a joint.

00:04:28.780 It's like, what?

00:04:30.080 Huh?

00:04:30.720 Actually?

00:04:33.580 Yes.

00:04:35.120 Okay.

00:04:35.980 Sometimes the sugar daddies like two versus one, and we're best friends, and we like to

00:04:40.960 do everything together.

00:04:42.140 So, we tried to sell that.

00:04:44.460 So, yeah.

00:04:46.180 No, I'm just on Hinge.

00:04:47.880 I'm just on Hinge.

00:04:49.260 Yeah, we're joking.

00:04:49.920 I'm just on Hinge.

00:04:50.880 They're not joking.

00:04:51.920 They're being serious.

00:04:53.020 Yeah.

00:04:53.120 We're joking.

00:04:53.560 Not Tinder, not Tinder.

00:04:55.180 Wait, so are your sugar daddies good to you?

00:04:58.300 You know, I wish, or else I wouldn't have to have any sort of job.

00:05:02.200 I will say they are better to Lauren than me, for whatever reason, but they are pretty

00:05:07.600 good to us.

00:05:08.700 Yeah, I guess I just...

00:05:09.480 How old are they?

00:05:10.060 50s, 60s.

00:05:13.060 Um, it varies.

00:05:14.860 50s, 60s.

00:05:15.980 There is a range.

00:05:16.540 Yeah, there's a range.

00:05:18.280 We'll say like maybe...

00:05:18.900 You gotta make it through college somehow.

00:05:20.640 Yeah.

00:05:22.160 That's all I gotta say.

00:05:23.180 So, are we talking 40s, 50s, 60s?

00:05:25.780 What are we talking?

00:05:26.560 Okay, I'm only on Hinge.

00:05:28.040 I don't know where you guys got seeking arrangement.

00:05:31.080 Okay.

00:05:31.380 What you guys said...

00:05:33.940 Yeah, we've tried seeking.

00:05:36.320 You've tried it?

00:05:37.220 Yeah.

00:05:37.760 Okay.

00:05:38.380 And have you met anyone from that?

00:05:40.940 Yeah, we've met people.

00:05:42.320 Um, we just like go out to dinner dates.

00:05:44.440 Okay, how much did you get paid?

00:05:46.160 Probably like $200 for a dinner date.

00:05:49.600 How many times have you been on dates?

00:05:53.060 Like with how many different men, I guess I should ask.

00:05:55.740 You know, um, probably like between 15 to 20 dinner dates.

00:06:02.440 From seeking arrangement?

00:06:03.600 Yes.

00:06:04.180 Are these 15 to 20 with like the same dudes or like different dudes?

00:06:07.640 A couple of the same dudes.

00:06:09.100 Okay.

00:06:09.700 And you get paid $200 each time?

00:06:12.160 Yes.

00:06:12.880 You know, consistency is key.

00:06:13.800 That's the minimum.

00:06:15.720 Has it gone beyond just dinner dates?

00:06:18.960 No.

00:06:20.600 We're platonic, girl.

00:06:24.480 Okay, platonic arrangements.

00:06:26.160 Okay.

00:06:26.760 What's the most you guys have been paid for a date?

00:06:31.380 It's okay.

00:06:32.160 It's all right.

00:06:32.460 What's the most?

00:06:32.900 You can be honest.

00:06:34.380 Together, like $1,000.

00:06:35.740 So when we're together, $500 each.

00:06:38.260 Oh, I thought you guys were joking about that.

00:06:39.920 No.

00:06:40.380 Oh, okay.

00:06:40.760 But we go out to dinner together because we have good banter together.

00:06:43.840 We're like best friends.

00:06:44.840 A lot of stories.

00:06:45.680 They love that.

00:06:47.060 So it's you and one guy?

00:06:48.940 Or does he bring a friend, too?

00:06:50.100 But I actually hate Tinder.

00:06:51.140 Tinder.

00:06:52.040 Sometimes they say they'll bring a friend.

00:06:54.880 We haven't ever had that.

00:06:56.760 Okay.

00:06:57.220 So to Chase's question, what's the most that you guys have ever been paid for one date?

00:07:02.680 $500 each.

00:07:03.340 Yeah, for me, $500 each.

00:07:05.480 What did you?

00:07:08.560 Once again, I'm only on Hinge, so I wouldn't know the answers.

00:07:12.500 I'd like to know, why do you hate Tinder?

00:07:15.320 Honestly, I feel like it's just for hooking up.

00:07:17.460 You know, it's not really my vibe.

00:07:19.500 Okay.

00:07:19.960 What's the youngest sugar daddy you guys have ever had?

00:07:23.720 Model daddy? 0.54

00:07:24.480 Yeah.

00:07:25.680 Yeah.

00:07:26.200 I mean, some people are like 23.

00:07:28.520 No way.

00:07:29.140 That's probably the youngest.

00:07:29.660 You had a 23-year-old sugar daddy? 0.98

00:07:31.580 Yeah.

00:07:32.260 Wow.

00:07:32.860 Crypto guy?

00:07:34.040 Yeah.

00:07:34.660 Oh, okay.

00:07:35.120 He's into health and wellness.

00:07:38.580 Okay.

00:07:39.240 All right.

00:07:40.400 Okay.

00:07:40.680 So you're both currently single, correct?

00:07:42.960 Yes.

00:07:43.520 Single.

00:07:44.100 Okay.

00:07:44.480 If you could get that from there.

00:07:45.540 Longest relationship?

00:07:47.420 A couple months.

00:07:48.760 I'm not a relationship girl.

00:07:51.400 What does that mean?

00:07:53.040 Yeah, I guess.

00:07:53.920 Closer to the mic.

00:07:55.200 In college, I kind of just, you know, played the field, per se.

00:08:01.660 Yeah, but I don't like, I haven't wanted to settle.

00:08:04.720 I haven't wanted to settle for anyone.

00:08:07.140 I think college guys are not exactly ready to settle themselves, so yeah.

00:08:13.280 Did you enjoy playing the field?

00:08:16.400 I did, but I think I'm retired.

00:08:18.680 Retired?

00:08:19.260 Yeah.

00:08:19.760 Yeah.

00:08:20.420 I'm a senior now, so I'm ready, you know, for life.

00:08:23.080 So I'm curious to hear, when you say play the field, like, what specifically are you

00:08:27.320 talking about when you say play the field?

00:08:30.540 You know, test it out.

00:08:33.280 Different guys.

00:08:34.900 You know, like, slept with different guys, I guess.

00:08:38.940 Yeah.

00:08:40.260 So I feel like you guys are kind of ashamed of this, and, you know, you shouldn't be.

00:08:45.400 I don't think you should.

00:08:46.440 I don't either.

00:08:47.040 It's embarrassing to admit, but at the end of the day, I'm not embarrassed, because I

00:08:51.600 feel like I've learned a lot, and, like, it has shown me what I want at the end.

00:08:55.600 Exactly.

00:08:56.240 How else are you going to find out if you don't actually go try it?

00:08:58.980 Into the mic.

00:08:59.620 Agreed.

00:09:00.260 Sorry.

00:09:00.620 Yeah.

00:09:02.400 I totally agree.

00:09:04.540 Would you, let's say that you, you know, 10 years from now, and you have a daughter, would

00:09:09.740 you tell her to go play the field as well? 0.97

00:09:12.200 That's a good question.

00:09:13.620 So I have a daughter.

00:09:15.480 Yeah?

00:09:16.040 Yeah.

00:09:16.460 How old is she? 0.98

00:09:17.280 She's six.

00:09:18.460 Okay.

00:09:18.700 So, of course, I'm not going to tell my six-year-old that, but if she's older, I am going to tell

00:09:23.920 her to do what she needs to do to discover herself.

00:09:26.620 If that means doing what they did or dating or not dating, that's going to be up to her.

00:09:33.720 I don't think that a woman should be ashamed for experimenting and figuring themselves

00:09:40.020 out, especially when these girls are, you know, you guys are kind of making it shameful

00:09:47.500 that they have sugar daddies, but at the end of the day, they're paying their bills.

00:09:51.440 I don't think we shame them for the sugar daddy thing, but would you be okay with your daughter

00:09:54.700 sleeping with, like, 100 guys throughout her college career, so four years?

00:10:00.300 I don't think that's any of my business.

00:10:01.860 I mean, you're her mother, so, I mean...

00:10:05.100 Exactly, but she's an adult.

00:10:06.820 I think as long as she's safe, she gets herself tested, she follows protocol, she knows what

00:10:11.860 she's doing, and she's going to be okay with that, that's her choice.

00:10:15.440 So if she was committing armed robberies, you wouldn't try to guide her in a certain direction?

00:10:20.640 That's a different topic.

00:10:22.400 You're talking about breaking a law.

00:10:24.360 I mean, yeah, I don't really know.

00:10:26.100 Girls fix sleep for money. 1.00

00:10:28.120 It's, like, not my vibe, but...

00:10:29.860 Well, I don't know how we're supposed to figure out what we really want and what we

00:10:34.800 really like if we don't experiment, especially in college.

00:10:39.020 Like, this is the time to test out different things, different people.

00:10:44.840 But I feel like there's other ways to, like, test out people than just, like, sexually.

00:10:49.680 I don't know if we, like, have to, like, have sex to, like...

00:10:54.300 Like, what other ways, Tara?

00:10:55.920 Like, just going on...

00:10:57.520 Like, just going on dates.

00:11:00.120 Like, getting to know them.

00:11:01.040 That would be lovely.

00:11:01.540 I feel like there's different ways than...

00:11:03.420 Yeah.

00:11:04.240 Like, a one-night stand hookup to, like, discover yourself on the one hand, and then also to,

00:11:11.080 like, see what you like.

00:11:14.460 I feel like there's a million things you should look for in a partner that you can't 0.98

00:11:17.540 see just from, like, having sex with them.

00:11:18.740 Do you have a preference of a dating app here? 0.97

00:11:20.300 Anyone have a preference?

00:11:21.160 Yeah, because I feel like these dating apps are all hookups.

00:11:23.940 Before we go into that, there's this idea that's being put forth about, like, discovering

00:11:27.360 yourself by sleeping with different guys.

00:11:29.100 And I'm curious, like, when you're doing one-night stands with guys in college, what

00:11:33.000 are you discovering about yourself in terms of what you like? 0.66

00:11:35.640 Because if you're not dating a guy and getting to know him, if you're just having sex with

00:11:39.820 him or hooking up with him, what knowledge are you really gaining from that experience?

00:11:44.300 Yeah, especially, like, about yourself.

00:11:46.040 Yeah.

00:11:47.640 So, I didn't take that as they were just talking about sleeping around.

00:11:51.620 A little closer.

00:11:52.460 They also said that, you know, they were just going out to dinners and things like that.

00:11:57.580 I think it was just the context was taken as they were sleeping with people.

00:12:02.660 Dinners aside, we're talking about the idea of playing the field, right?

00:12:05.280 Like, if you're playing the field, what are you learning about yourself?

00:12:07.740 So, what's your definition of playing the field?

00:12:09.540 Sleeping with a lot of different men.

00:12:11.980 So, my definition of playing the field would be going out on dates, experimenting.

00:12:16.820 Yeah, maybe you might sleep with a couple, but playing the field, to me, in my perspective,

00:12:21.440 doesn't necessarily mean sleeping with every single person I run into.

00:12:25.520 Are you girls aware that most guys are not attracted when girls sleep around and play 0.99

00:12:30.620 the field?

00:12:32.800 Do you know that most guys sleep around?

00:12:34.320 Definitely aware of that.

00:12:35.960 Most guys don't sleep around.

00:12:37.840 What do you mean guys don't sleep around?

00:12:40.200 Maybe the men that you're attracted to, maybe the men you're attracted to sleep around,

00:12:44.060 but most, when we say most, most men can't sleep around.

00:12:50.180 Oh, yeah, because, like, girls can, what's the saying?

00:12:53.240 Girls can get to be women. 1.00

00:12:54.040 Oh, girls can fuck who they want. 1.00

00:12:57.320 Women sleep with who they want. 1.00

00:12:58.780 Men sleep with who they can. 0.99

00:12:59.820 Yes, exactly.

00:13:00.640 Yeah.

00:13:01.800 Yeah.

00:13:02.360 And recently, I actually heard, I think this was from one of the other podcasters out there,

00:13:08.200 and he was saying that men actually have to earn the privilege of becoming a hoe. 0.87

00:13:13.960 That's a fact.

00:13:14.980 Men can't just be hoes. 1.00

00:13:16.900 They have to work for it.

00:13:17.940 So, you know, with girls, you can just go out there and get laid whenever you want to. 0.97

00:13:23.100 So, that's a fact.

00:13:25.520 I think not a lot of girls realize.

00:13:27.320 I think girls think that, like, it's a flex to be a hoe, but it's not that hard. 1.00

00:13:35.160 I don't know.

00:13:36.020 Oh, I had someone say to me recently, because I was like, I haven't been with anyone in a while,

00:13:39.980 and they were like, how?

00:13:40.880 And you look the way you do.

00:13:41.840 And I was like, it's not like I don't get men, but it's like choosing who I want to be with.

00:13:49.220 So, I think that kind of goes all in with that.

00:13:53.760 But I think that also comes with growing up and learning what you want,

00:13:57.800 because when we were freshmen, we were definitely excited by the fact that guys wanted us

00:14:02.720 and wanted to hook up with us.

00:14:05.200 But now, we're more picky.

00:14:07.760 So, I think that's what I was trying to say about knowing what we want when we get older.

00:14:12.820 And just to make a comment on your point, too,

00:14:15.720 is that most girls are attracted to the guys that can have sex with a lot of different girls. 0.98

00:14:22.780 So, when you say men can do it, too,

00:14:25.860 those are actually the types of men that most girls are attracted to.

00:14:30.500 So, then, would you say that that would feed the culture of women having that perception 0.99

00:14:35.540 that most men do sleep around, because those are the men that we're interacting with?

00:14:40.460 Most men do not sleep around.

00:14:42.540 Okay, but it's a perception.

00:14:43.640 So, do you think that you just said most women are attracted to the type of man that would sleep around, right? 0.76

00:14:51.900 So, if most women are talking to those kinds of men,

00:14:56.420 wouldn't that set their expectations up for the rest of men?

00:15:00.260 Because that's who they're encountering.

00:15:01.820 That's who they're experiencing.

00:15:02.340 Yeah, it might set up their expectations,

00:15:04.660 but the reality of it is that 90% of men aren't getting laid.

00:15:09.980 And the 10% that are getting laid are the ones that women want. 1.00

00:15:15.620 That honestly still shocks me.

00:15:17.400 Like, that's, like, it doesn't, that is, like, surprising, I guess.

00:15:21.040 Girls really have, like, no idea. 1.00

00:15:22.620 So, you guys, like, talking from experience here?

00:15:25.120 Talking from experience.

00:15:26.840 Yes.

00:15:28.520 Absolutely.

00:15:29.320 You can't get laid? 1.00

00:15:30.460 Is that, like, what you're saying?

00:15:32.060 No, we're not, we're not saying we can't get laid.

00:15:34.140 What we're saying is...

00:15:35.520 Yeah, you're the 10%, right? 0.77

00:15:36.760 Yeah.

00:15:36.940 If you took a survey of dudes, like, the majority of guys that I know,

00:15:42.120 like, they struggle attracting the kind of girls that they want, right?

00:15:45.240 But then you have this very small percentage of dudes who are just absolute studs,

00:15:49.280 and they just run through tons of women. 1.00

00:15:51.580 Would you put, what category would you put yourself in?

00:15:55.340 I mean, I don't run through women, but, like, I don't have much... 1.00

00:15:59.600 He could.

00:15:59.980 But you're more of, like, the studly category.

00:16:01.680 What I would say is that I don't, I'm not thinking about that.

00:16:04.300 I'm just thinking about how do you become a better man?

00:16:06.340 How do you work on yourself and continue working?

00:16:09.900 And I think, especially with social media and dating apps and those types of apps,

00:16:15.860 you can't, you know, it's just based off the looks.

00:16:19.380 So most men aren't getting the attention.

00:16:21.920 And then the men that look visually appealing are getting all the clicks and all the swipes.

00:16:28.420 True.

00:16:28.740 Okay, we're gonna, we didn't let everybody finish off the questions about relationship status and stuff,

00:16:39.620 so go ahead.

00:16:40.900 Current relationship status, longest relationship, are you on any dating apps?

00:16:43.800 We'll circle back to some of this conversation, though.

00:16:45.740 I'm currently single, longest relationship was a year, and I don't like the use of dating apps.

00:16:57.020 I am currently single, my longest relationship was four years.

00:17:01.640 Like I said, I am a mom.

00:17:03.540 Was that with the bio down?

00:17:04.760 Yes.

00:17:05.260 Okay.

00:17:05.680 Yes.

00:17:06.660 So four years, and I am on Hinge right now, which is how you found me.

00:17:14.400 I am currently single, not on any dating apps.

00:17:18.160 And what was the other question?

00:17:21.900 What was the other question?

00:17:22.500 Longest relationship.

00:17:23.600 Oh, longest relationship.

00:17:25.040 A year and a half.

00:17:26.660 Yeah, a year and a half.

00:17:27.700 Seeking arrangements?

00:17:28.880 No, no seeking arrangements.

00:17:30.860 I'm in a relationship.

00:17:32.560 It's been the longest one.

00:17:33.620 It's three years long, and I've never used a dating app.

00:17:36.660 Probably never will.

00:17:38.860 Right on.

00:17:39.540 Yeah, I'm single.

00:17:40.520 Longest relationship, year and a half, and not on any dating apps currently.

00:17:47.460 Okay, moving on.

00:17:48.880 So a lot of you said you were single, but what does that really mean in today's day and age?

00:17:56.980 Yeah, in some cases, single people might be having more sex than people in relationships.

00:18:02.380 That's very true.

00:18:03.060 Is that what you mean?

00:18:03.740 Is that what you were implying?

00:18:04.560 That's kind of what I'm getting towards.

00:18:06.200 So some of y'all are single, but what's that really mean?

00:18:13.780 You know?

00:18:14.240 Okay, do you currently have a sneaky link?

00:18:17.120 Are you currently seeing someone?

00:18:18.340 Are you currently hooking up?

00:18:19.340 So, no, I've been pretty, like, been having no one for the past couple months, and I've

00:18:32.340 been really happy with that, so I think, yeah.

00:18:36.660 I also do not have a current consistent sneaky link, yeah.

00:18:43.640 But so you have a sneaky link, an inconsistent one?

00:18:47.500 Perhaps.

00:18:49.040 Per chance.

00:18:49.960 Yeah.

00:18:50.660 Okay, maybe I'll change the question.

00:18:52.940 When's the last time you've hooked up with somebody?

00:18:56.060 Honestly, it's been a minute.

00:18:58.580 Like a fortnight ago?

00:19:00.040 Yeah, whatever that means.

00:19:01.580 14 days?

00:19:03.040 Yeah, something like that.

00:19:04.720 Okay.

00:19:05.620 It's been a couple weeks?

00:19:07.080 Yeah.

00:19:07.780 Okay.

00:19:07.980 Um, I, um, got out of a pretty serious relationship not that long ago, so I'm just enjoying my

00:19:18.580 time, like, genuinely having no guys in my life, and yeah, right now I, like, love it.

00:19:24.360 How long was your relationship?

00:19:25.720 It was a year.

00:19:27.020 Okay.

00:19:27.460 How come it ended?

00:19:28.440 He cheated.

00:19:29.560 Okay.

00:19:31.160 Yeah.

00:19:31.420 So I do not have any sneaky links, um, my dating life is pretty limited, I have Tuesday

00:19:39.460 nights free, that's it, so, and I'm here.

00:19:43.920 Um, I was seeing someone and I gave them eight months, and as a mom I have different standards,

00:19:50.120 and so if you're not gonna look for something permanent, then I have to move on.

00:19:54.580 What are those different standards as a mom? 1.00

00:19:57.380 So I need to find someone that actually knows what they want, where they're gonna go, want

00:20:04.520 a family, right?

00:20:05.520 I'm already halfway there.

00:20:06.900 So you have to be committed to wanting those things in order to make it, you know, in my

00:20:15.040 perspective with me in a relationship.

00:20:17.800 How many guys that you talk to want those things?

00:20:21.220 Not very many.

00:20:22.520 Do you run into issues with the fact that you have a kid and you're a single mom?

00:20:28.520 Absolutely.

00:20:29.820 How does that manifest?

00:20:32.160 Well, I try to be upfront about it, like on my hinge, it says, I am a mom, I put a picture

00:20:38.260 of my daughter on there, you know, um, so I try to mitigate it upfront.

00:20:43.240 There are guys who try to surpass that, right, and play it off, and then when they realize

00:20:48.160 that I'm not just gonna sleep with them, then they kind of die out, you know?

00:20:53.520 Um, there was a situation where I was seeing someone for a year and kind of was letting

00:20:59.620 them go, and it's like, that's a year of my time that I'm not gonna be able to get back

00:21:03.280 now.

00:21:04.460 So, it's hard.

00:21:06.440 So it's hard.

00:21:07.040 How many guys that you're talking to are interested in, like, something long-term,

00:21:10.940 becoming the father of your kid, so on and so forth?

00:21:14.560 Well, I'm not really talking to a whole lot of people.

00:21:17.500 So, I mean, on Hinge, I think I just started conversations with, like, three people right

00:21:23.540 now.

00:21:24.680 And two of them are already parents, so that's helpful.

00:21:29.200 You would date a guy who has children of his own? 0.97

00:21:31.920 That would be pretty hypocritical. 0.94

00:21:33.880 Well, I've... 0.61

00:21:35.880 Yeah, it would.

00:21:36.340 You say that, but actually, I encountered a woman who, she had two, at least two children,

00:21:41.560 she might have had three, and she said that she wants to date a guy that doesn't have children.

00:21:47.120 To make her life simpler?

00:21:48.520 Well, yeah, it would be simpler for her, but I was like, okay, lady, good luck.

00:21:53.480 Yeah, I mean, I think to narrow myself down, and, you know, I want more children. 0.91

00:21:59.660 So, I mean, to say, no, you have children, I'm not going to date you, would be pretty ridiculous,

00:22:04.960 as far as my standpoint is.

00:22:07.780 So, total, how many dudes have been interested with the kid in the equation?

00:22:16.280 Two.

00:22:18.460 Is reconciliation with the father a possibility?

00:22:21.680 Absolutely not.

00:22:22.160 What happened there?

00:22:23.660 Were you guys married?

00:22:24.540 No, thank God.

00:22:25.820 Yeah, what happened?

00:22:27.020 Why isn't he in the picture?

00:22:28.460 So, he's an alcoholic.

00:22:29.800 Okay, that's not good.

00:22:31.140 No.

00:22:31.940 So, I tried.

00:22:33.980 I tried to work through it.

00:22:35.560 It wasn't working.

00:22:36.940 It was an abusive situation, so that was difficult.

00:22:41.320 And he actually assaulted our daughter on a visitation.

00:22:44.440 Wow.

00:22:44.700 And so, I have full physical legal. 1.00

00:22:46.300 What a piece of shit. 1.00

00:22:47.540 Yeah, exactly. 1.00

00:22:47.900 That's a yikes.

00:22:48.300 So, that's why I have only Tuesdays free.

00:22:50.860 Makes sense.

00:22:52.940 Okay.

00:22:54.700 Wow.

00:22:55.520 Good luck following that.

00:22:56.940 I know.

00:22:58.700 I mean, not really seeing anybody right now.

00:23:02.320 Last time I hooked up with somebody was like a week ago.

00:23:05.540 So, yeah, not really, I don't know.

00:23:13.040 If I remember, you said that you're not a feminist. 1.00

00:23:17.220 Is that correct?

00:23:18.540 Are we bringing that up right now?

00:23:19.860 Well, I'm just saying because you said that last week you hooked up with a guy, with a different guy?

00:23:26.620 With a different guy.

00:23:27.500 Yeah.

00:23:27.960 Yeah.

00:23:28.520 Okay.

00:23:29.140 We're going to go around the table on the feminist question so we can get to that. 0.99

00:23:32.540 All right.

00:23:32.720 I think I might have had a question for you.

00:23:36.800 So, you mentioned that the guys are not meeting your standard.

00:23:42.440 Mm-hmm.

00:23:43.220 Okay.

00:23:44.380 So, can you go a bit more?

00:23:46.640 Can you elaborate a bit more on specifically what you're looking for in a guy?

00:23:50.940 Exactly.

00:23:52.060 It's not a very high standard, but...

00:23:56.580 It's not a high standard.

00:23:57.580 It's not a super high standard.

00:23:59.080 I feel like this should be...

00:24:00.480 Yeah, exactly.

00:24:01.340 Have a job.

00:24:02.660 Have a plan.

00:24:03.960 Know what you want.

00:24:05.340 Know how to communicate.

00:24:07.360 Know how to handle your own emotions.

00:24:09.460 Just be an adult, man.

00:24:10.500 Just be, yeah, a normal human being, please.

00:24:14.840 Okay.

00:24:16.080 So, we're going to go around the table on this one really quick.

00:24:18.480 You can just say yes or no, whatever your sense of this one is.

00:24:22.380 And just to be clear, so, okay.

00:24:24.080 The question is, do you identify as a feminist? 1.00

00:24:26.280 And to be clear, you can believe in equality and women's rights without being a feminist. 0.97

00:24:31.200 Go ahead.

00:24:32.900 I would say yes.

00:24:36.420 Yes.

00:24:37.500 No.

00:24:38.740 No.

00:24:40.220 No.

00:24:41.240 Based.

00:24:41.980 Definitely not.

00:24:43.340 Absolutely not.

00:24:45.520 Definitely not for me, so.

00:24:47.060 I consider myself an egalitarian, so.

00:24:51.700 So, you two, yes.

00:24:53.620 Maybe no.

00:24:56.480 No.

00:24:57.080 Group think.

00:24:57.580 Come on.

00:24:58.120 Don't be sheep.

00:24:59.040 Don't be sheep.

00:24:59.540 Yeah, it's group think.

00:25:01.700 I just think that, you know, girls should be taken out on dates. 1.00

00:25:05.920 I don't know if that's feminist, not feminist. 1.00

00:25:07.800 That's just traditional.

00:25:09.180 That's just traditional.

00:25:09.700 Traditional?

00:25:10.200 Is that like...

00:25:11.020 Yeah, I would say that's like...

00:25:12.580 That is antithetical to feminism. 1.00

00:25:15.400 Yeah.

00:25:15.920 Okay.

00:25:16.240 So, when you guys say you're feminist, what do you mean?

00:25:20.260 I guess we are traditional.

00:25:22.140 We think men should take care of us, take us out to dates. 0.98

00:25:26.160 We both, you know...

00:25:27.160 Like seeking arrangements.

00:25:30.380 No shade.

00:25:31.600 Yeah.

00:25:31.980 Something like that.

00:25:32.600 Super traditional.

00:25:33.100 Yeah.

00:25:33.300 I mean, I picture myself, I'm like, I want to marry a well-off man.

00:25:40.020 So, you guys don't want to be strong, independent women, equal to your husbands in all ways. 0.96

00:25:44.120 I would love to be a strong, independent woman with also a man who's a successful.

00:25:48.620 So, is that feminist? 1.00

00:25:52.380 I mean, if you want your husband to take care of you, that seems antithetical to being a strong, independent woman.

00:25:58.920 I feel like growing up, I always wanted to be a strong, independent woman.

00:26:02.000 But, like, at this point, I mean, honestly, a lot of times, I'm like, I never want to get married and have kids because, like, men have bad girls.

00:26:09.520 Because what?

00:26:10.300 Because why?

00:26:11.660 I don't know.

00:26:13.120 Yeah, yeah.

00:26:13.880 Explain why.

00:26:14.420 Men are just so disrespectful.

00:26:16.120 Men are disrespectful.

00:26:17.300 Now, does that apply to dudes in your age cohort or do you think that applies to men in general?

00:26:21.960 Just, like, a lot of the guys I've met recently.

00:26:25.400 How are they disrespectful?

00:26:28.660 I'm not going to go into it.

00:26:30.540 No, yeah, you should explain it.

00:26:31.760 If you want, you can be vague, but just maybe give us an example.

00:26:35.440 I mean, we've seen with Adam Levine, for example.

00:26:37.420 Yeah.

00:26:38.040 Every man cheats.

00:26:38.220 They had an open relationship.

00:26:39.760 They did?

00:26:40.380 I'm pretty sure they had an open.

00:26:41.360 I don't think so.

00:26:42.220 I'm pretty sure it was open.

00:26:43.800 Okay.

00:26:44.060 But, okay, so cheating is disrespectful.

00:26:45.960 M. Ratajkowski, these gorgeous women are getting cheated on. 1.00

00:26:49.940 So, every man ends up cheating.

00:26:51.840 That's not true.

00:26:52.440 I don't think that's true.

00:26:53.240 I just never want to get married.

00:26:54.180 Let me state for the record.

00:26:55.460 Let me state for the record.

00:26:56.280 Not every man ends up cheating.

00:26:57.900 Okay, not every man.

00:26:59.540 Allie, Allie, the men that you're talking about, these are celebrities.

00:27:02.860 These are dudes with a million women that are in their DMs. 0.91

00:27:05.780 That's true.

00:27:06.300 That's very different.

00:27:07.060 But that's who I hear about.

00:27:07.740 That's why we only hear about it, because they're celebrities.

00:27:10.180 Wait, wait, just a question.

00:27:11.380 When was your last long-term monogamous relationship?

00:27:14.460 A year ago.

00:27:15.500 A year ago.

00:27:16.200 And it ended very bad.

00:27:17.700 Okay, so did he cheat on you?

00:27:19.140 Yes, he cheated on me.

00:27:20.260 Did you cheat on him? 0.99

00:27:21.100 No, I didn't cheat on him.

00:27:22.380 And then he, I don't know if he cheated on me.

00:27:24.800 But okay, so you haven't been in a relationship in a year.

00:27:28.340 So, what other disrespectful, because I mean, if you haven't been monogamous in a year,

00:27:32.660 what other disrespectful things have men been doing in that year period?

00:27:36.560 It's not like I have to be in a relationship to experience disrespect.

00:27:41.520 No, but specifically with cheating, if you're not monogamous with a guy, then they're not

00:27:45.260 going to be...

00:27:45.520 Okay, no, I guess not specifically with cheating, because I haven't been monogamous.

00:27:47.720 You've got me, you've got me there.

00:27:49.580 Wait, you've never been monogamous, or you've just, in the past year...

00:27:52.640 No, I've been monogamous.

00:27:54.860 Okay.

00:27:55.040 I just have guys...

00:27:56.280 I've also had men not be monogamous...

00:27:58.660 Monogamous.

00:27:59.560 Sorry.

00:28:00.180 To me, in relationships.

00:28:02.060 Allie, have you been cheated on?

00:28:03.740 No, but I'm...

00:28:05.240 I will say, I've experienced through friendships, I've seen them get cheated on, when they're

00:28:11.520 gorgeous, respect the relationship, like, worship their boyfriends, and they still get

00:28:17.740 cheated on, so it's not all celebrities.

00:28:19.920 You guys realize there's a lot of dudes that are faithful, though, right?

00:28:24.140 I've yet to meet them.

00:28:25.520 Okay, well, here's the thing, though.

00:28:26.780 Here's the thing.

00:28:27.320 You guys have lived here in IV.

00:28:28.820 You guys have gone to UCSB.

00:28:30.720 You guys are in Fuckboy Central, okay? 0.56

00:28:33.100 This is, like, the place where you've got all these chads walking through the streets, 0.98

00:28:37.060 sleeping with tons of chicks.

00:28:38.800 90% of these dudes that are sleeping with a lot of the girls, they're not interested 0.98

00:28:41.960 in being tied down.

00:28:43.040 This is not representative of, like, all dudes.

00:28:45.480 You guys recognize that, right?

00:28:47.240 We do, but then why would someone like Adam Levine cheat on his model wife?

00:28:52.780 Because he's a high-value man.

00:28:54.080 Yeah.

00:28:54.620 High-value men have all the options.

00:28:57.220 So when you say all men cheat, I think you're referring to maybe high-value men.

00:29:01.720 And within those high-value men, there are still men that will be faithful, but you have

00:29:07.400 to show as a woman, you have to show that you're willing to commit and basically not 1.00

00:29:11.780 be a hoe. 1.00

00:29:13.340 Well, I think there's also a lot of, I think, to be fair, I think that there are a lot of

00:29:19.280 women who are committed to their high-value men, but the problem that he's describing is

00:29:24.000 that the top 0.01% of dudes, like I was saying before, they have a million women, really attractive 1.00

00:29:29.900 women, that are in their DMs. 1.00

00:29:31.500 Every day, just like you guys.

00:29:32.820 Okay, but I will say.

00:29:33.860 And that is not representative of most dudes.

00:29:37.920 I totally get that, but many dudes want what they can't have.

00:29:43.500 And for example, Lauren was a very respectful girlfriend in the relationship and still got

00:29:51.620 cheated on. 0.98

00:29:52.320 Was your ex-boyfriend a fuckboy? 1.00

00:29:53.660 Was he just like run through chicks? 0.99

00:29:57.940 You know, like, we were, well, we were in a relationship, so I guess I could say no,

00:30:02.400 because we were.

00:30:04.140 When he's not in a relationship.

00:30:05.660 Can I just speak on this?

00:30:06.100 Having, having been like pretty recently cheated on and now.

00:30:10.200 I think that's valid.

00:30:11.280 Yeah, go for it.

00:30:12.140 So, yes, I just got, I was cheated on over the past year. 0.99

00:30:18.560 It was the reason my relationship ended, and it fucking sucked. 0.98

00:30:21.300 We're, like, cruelest thing anyone's ever done to me. 0.99

00:30:23.340 So embarrassing how it happened.

00:30:25.400 I was, I feel like I was, like, an amazing girlfriend.

00:30:28.440 Loved that person very dearly.

00:30:29.860 Was very serious about it.

00:30:31.360 And, but I still, like, I'm not going to say all men cheat.

00:30:34.600 Because if I have a mindset in my head that, like, I, all guys are terrible, I just truly

00:30:41.320 believe I'm only going to be, like, attracted to, like, terrible guys.

00:30:44.380 Also, it's just, like, maybe it's a problem with my standards, to be honest.

00:30:47.480 Like.

00:30:48.300 I just want to throw in one thing, too.

00:30:50.760 That men can cheat and still absolutely be in love with the girl that they're with.

00:30:55.540 Yeah, I do believe that, too.

00:30:56.900 Yeah.

00:30:57.080 From, you know, just, I mean, I'm a psychology major.

00:30:59.980 I know, like, how these things work.

00:31:01.220 They're not, like, very black and white.

00:31:02.280 There's a lot of, like, emotional, sexual needs involved.

00:31:05.140 Like, whatever.

00:31:06.180 But at the end of the day, maybe if your partner cheats on you, it just shows that he was,

00:31:10.000 like, a really low-value guy.

00:31:11.600 And you should be, like, having higher standards.

00:31:14.640 I don't know about him being low-value.

00:31:16.840 But I would say.

00:31:18.140 You don't think cheating, like.

00:31:19.120 Low moral character.

00:31:20.760 Low moral character.

00:31:22.280 You don't think having a low moral character makes you a low-value guy?

00:31:25.020 Because, personally, I do.

00:31:26.040 If you have to be a high, you're a high-value guy to me if you have high moral character.

00:31:29.420 Right.

00:31:29.760 So.

00:31:29.920 I mean, like, value in terms of, like, the sexual marketplace.

00:31:33.140 So, you mean, like, mating market value.

00:31:34.660 Yeah.

00:31:34.880 But I guess that's true.

00:31:36.080 But when I was talking about high-value guy, I meant high value in terms of being, like,

00:31:40.080 a partner.

00:31:40.780 Not in terms of attractively having sex with.

00:31:43.300 Well, the reason why I clarified is because there's a lot of dudes who have high moral character

00:31:47.340 in that way that you're describing.

00:31:48.820 They would be monogamous.

00:31:49.800 They would be committed.

00:31:50.880 But they're not high-value men that can get a lot of girls.

00:31:53.380 Yeah.

00:31:53.600 Which is totally true.

00:31:54.900 You know what I mean?

00:31:55.500 Yeah.

00:31:55.660 Like, I'm curious about something you said.

00:31:57.240 You said maybe this is a reflection upon your standards in men and that the implication

00:32:01.780 was maybe they could be better.

00:32:02.980 Like, how so?

00:32:03.940 Yeah.

00:32:04.380 I mean, I definitely think you, I mean, women are the ones who set the standards for, like, 1.00

00:32:10.720 I don't know, what treatment you're getting.

00:32:12.000 And you can set those boundaries at any time and wherever you're going.

00:32:14.260 And honestly, I think I was, like, a bit naive when I got into that relationship.

00:32:18.120 Not to speak poorly, but I have nothing more to say other than, you know, the fact that

00:32:21.160 what happened about, like, my previous partner.

00:32:22.880 But I certainly think that, like, women have the power here to choose, like, how you're treated 1.00

00:32:26.540 and what kind of value men you get.

00:32:29.200 And honestly, my standards did need to be, like, way higher.

00:32:31.340 And they are way higher.

00:32:31.880 Did you break up with him after he cheated?

00:32:34.500 Great question.

00:32:35.580 I don't know if anyone here has been cheating.

00:32:38.660 This was just my experience.

00:32:39.820 But getting cheated on brought my confidence from, like, 1,000 to literally zero, like,

00:32:45.560 immediately.

00:32:46.260 And it took me probably, like, six months to regain, like, my confidence enough to realize,

00:32:52.140 like, what the hell am I doing?

00:32:54.060 Like, I deserve, like, way more than this.

00:32:55.720 So, no, I didn't immediately.

00:32:56.920 It took me, like, six months to realize I was, like, doing myself harm by, like, staying

00:33:03.600 with this person.

00:33:04.320 How long after he cheated did you guys break up?

00:33:06.800 Six months.

00:33:08.080 Six.

00:33:08.680 You didn't break up until six months after?

00:33:11.280 Yeah. 1.00

00:33:11.940 Holy shit. 1.00

00:33:12.320 Well, no, he cheated and we broke up. 0.99

00:33:13.780 But he won me over and I, like, took him back when I shouldn't have.

00:33:17.260 Okay.

00:33:17.500 So, it's because I took, I mean, when I found about it, I immediately, it was no contact.

00:33:21.560 Did he tell you or did you find out?

00:33:23.800 I honestly don't want to, I can't go, like, that deep into it without, like.

00:33:28.400 I have another question for you.

00:33:29.580 Yeah.

00:33:30.740 In the future, so I know a lot of girls who have had their hearts broken by dudes cheating 1.00

00:33:35.620 on them.

00:33:37.000 A question I have for you.

00:33:38.700 Also, though, I don't currently consider myself heartbroken.

00:33:41.800 Leaving that was the greatest thing I ever did.

00:33:43.360 I'm, like, the happiest I've ever been.

00:33:44.680 So, I don't currently consider myself.

00:33:46.380 That's great.

00:33:46.920 In a bad place.

00:33:47.840 But just a scammer.

00:33:49.140 That's good.

00:33:49.480 With that said, I know a lot of girls who have been cheated on a lot. 1.00

00:33:54.480 And my question is, what can you guys as women do to vet guys better so that you don't end 1.00

00:34:00.960 up with dudes that are going to cheat on you? 1.00

00:34:02.500 I think that's part of the process of learning yourself as a woman, like what they were talking

00:34:08.860 about earlier, playing the field, right?

00:34:12.440 Figuring out your personalities, what your standards would be, what you want to be able

00:34:17.400 to set that level and figure out what it is that you're looking for.

00:34:21.500 Would you be okay with, would any of you be okay with a guy that is able to have multiple

00:34:29.920 partners, but you have to be faithful to just him?

00:34:32.780 Absolutely not.

00:34:33.440 What woman would say yes to that? 0.99

00:34:37.060 There are some.

00:34:38.080 Look at Andrew Tate.

00:34:39.020 If the man is high status enough, there are women that will tolerate infidelity. 0.95

00:34:45.080 But, I mean, it could be something that's just up front, too, where the guy's just like,

00:34:49.780 hey, I'm not going to be faithful.

00:34:51.820 You have to be faithful to me.

00:34:54.040 That's fair.

00:34:54.380 That's what it is.

00:34:54.880 That's fair.

00:34:55.180 If they're up front with it.

00:34:56.440 I mean, look, I know other females. 1.00

00:34:58.880 I'm not going to name names or tell my relationship with them.

00:35:02.280 But I do know females. 1.00

00:35:04.360 You can, if you want.

00:35:05.280 But I'm not going to.

00:35:05.880 You can expose.

00:35:06.660 Because, you know, you have lots of followers.

00:35:08.620 I don't need to expose them.

00:35:10.180 You know, it's not my particular, you know, approach.

00:35:14.300 But there are women out there who they don't want families. 1.00

00:35:17.460 They don't want children.

00:35:19.060 They're just going to go live their life and be, you know, the equivalent of a siren.

00:35:23.440 Those women are usually really unhappy, though, later on in life. 0.99

00:35:27.520 I mean, I'm not saying that they don't exist.

00:35:29.240 But most of the time, women and people in general want families. 1.00

00:35:33.700 And I really believe that that's what makes people most happy in life.

00:35:37.340 Amen.

00:35:37.920 I'm not disagreeing with you.

00:35:39.360 But what I'm saying is that there are people out there that don't share that same value that we're talking about.

00:35:44.500 They don't see the value of having them.

00:35:46.180 They definitely exist, but for the majority, like most people want to be happy and view having a family as something that's going to bring happiness, real happiness, not like material happiness, like cars and yachts and all that type of stuff.

00:35:59.540 Well, so this raises an interesting question.

00:36:02.320 Do you want to have kids?

00:36:03.060 To be honest, like, I really don't want to get married and have kids, but I guess I will if I have to.

00:36:10.540 What does that mean?

00:36:11.720 Nobody's going to force you.

00:36:12.860 Wait, what does that mean?

00:36:14.360 You will if you have to.

00:36:15.340 What do you mean by that?

00:36:16.700 Don't want to end up alone.

00:36:19.220 Okay, so.

00:36:20.140 Also, I feel like men, I don't know.

00:36:22.640 Wait, question.

00:36:23.100 So you would have kids just to, like, get rid of your own loneliness?

00:36:26.880 No, I feel like, I mean, procreating is a good thing, so.

00:36:30.520 Do you want to have kids?

00:36:32.000 Yes, I love kids.

00:36:33.860 Do you want to have kids?

00:36:35.080 Yes.

00:36:35.900 Well, I already have one.

00:36:36.900 Do you want to have more kids?

00:36:37.880 And I do, yeah, I do.

00:36:38.820 I want one more.

00:36:39.180 She has progeny, yeah? 0.69

00:36:39.900 Yeah.

00:36:41.000 Yeah, eventually I do.

00:36:42.460 Okay.

00:36:43.880 Yeah, I would definitely encourage you to reconsider the whole family thing.

00:36:47.960 I know right now it probably doesn't sound like something you want, but you know what the number one demographic of people on antidepressants is?

00:36:56.380 What, like single people have no kids? 0.76

00:36:58.480 Single women in their 40s without kids.

00:37:01.340 Thank you for telling me that.

00:37:03.480 You got, like, 20 years, though, so you're, you know, you got time.

00:37:06.220 I think I'm good for now.

00:37:07.740 Well, maybe less than 20, but that's okay.

00:37:09.340 If the right person comes along, but honestly, everyone I've seen right now, no.

00:37:13.340 Wait, are you two in sororities, by the way?

00:37:15.960 Yeah.

00:37:16.720 I was.

00:37:17.600 We both were.

00:37:18.620 But not anymore?

00:37:19.460 You guys got kicked out?

00:37:20.960 No.

00:37:21.160 Why did you guys get kicked out of Alpha Phi?

00:37:23.540 No, we didn't get kicked out.

00:37:24.840 I voluntarily dropped.

00:37:26.580 Was it Alpha Phi?

00:37:27.280 How did I guess that?

00:37:28.080 I don't know.

00:37:31.120 Attractive blonde girls, Alpha Phi. 0.94

00:37:32.500 Why did you guys, why did you voluntarily drop?

00:37:38.480 And we don't care.

00:37:39.300 Okay, so anyways.

00:37:40.620 We just don't care.

00:37:41.840 That's okay.

00:37:42.400 That's all right.

00:37:42.780 Okay, so before I get into some of my questions, I'd like to open it up to the panel.

00:37:48.920 Actually, before I do that, we're going to do a couple super chats.

00:37:51.640 So really quick around the table on this one, Stifler, ask everyone to rate their looks on

00:37:57.100 a scale of one to ten.

00:37:59.360 What do you rate yourself on a scale of one to ten?

00:38:00.860 Rate myself?

00:38:01.720 Yeah, your looks.

00:38:02.500 Oh, my God.

00:38:06.320 Just be honest.

00:38:07.240 It's okay.

00:38:08.660 Ten.

00:38:10.400 I guess.

00:38:11.300 I don't know.

00:38:12.260 I don't.

00:38:12.780 Okay, I got eight.

00:38:15.840 Eight.

00:38:17.060 Well, before you said ten, were you saying that about her?

00:38:20.520 I would say I heard ten.

00:38:22.380 Yeah.

00:38:22.700 You'd rate?

00:38:23.260 Okay, but so eight, eight.

00:38:23.760 We hype each other up, you know.

00:38:26.700 Maybe like eight.

00:38:29.140 Seven.

00:38:31.140 Yeah, like six or seven.

00:38:33.700 Michael?

00:38:34.380 I'm definitely at a crypto chad level, crypto chad ten.

00:38:38.980 Ten?

00:38:39.700 Yeah, crypto chad ten.

00:38:41.100 What's a crypto chad ten?

00:38:42.260 I was just reading the chat, so I'm going to say crypto chad.

00:38:45.880 Yeah, I'd give myself like a seven and a half to eight on a good day.

00:38:50.180 Okay, I'd give myself like six, 6.9 on a good day.

00:38:53.040 All right.

00:38:53.540 Thank you, Stifler, for that.

00:38:54.940 By the way, guys, get your super chats in.

00:38:56.640 Ten dollars and up.

00:38:57.300 Mac Joseph, okay.

00:39:01.060 Mike Davis with the ten dollar soup chat.

00:39:03.160 Man, where are these packs of chicks from, Brian? 0.51

00:39:05.360 You casting for white chicks, too? 1.00

00:39:07.080 My business mind tells me I might have to hit up the West Coast and open an STD test spot. 0.98

00:39:12.500 Shots fired.

00:39:13.500 Okay.

00:39:14.040 Mike Davis, thank you for the ten dollar soup chat.

00:39:15.920 Where's, do we have the, not where, Mike Davis has not been around recently.

00:39:21.580 So, but we have your vigil portrait here somewhere.

00:39:25.760 Thank you for the ten dollar soup chat.

00:39:27.760 And, yeah, you're going to have to open up some Burger Kings here on the West Coast.

00:39:32.460 Okay, moving on.

00:39:33.360 So, I'd like to open it up to the panel.

00:39:35.720 Is there anything dating related you want to get off your chest?

00:39:38.620 One thing you wish men did differently.

00:39:40.900 One thing you think guys get wrong.

00:39:43.220 Something you don't get about men.

00:39:44.420 There's a trend in dating that annoys you.

00:39:45.980 Et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

00:39:47.300 Anything?

00:39:51.460 I think just the name of the game is respect.

00:39:56.880 Respect.

00:39:58.920 So, you, okay, guys should be more respectful as you're.

00:40:01.800 Yeah.

00:40:02.420 Okay.

00:40:04.120 I feel like a lot of guys aren't as respectful.

00:40:09.240 I feel like it's not a huge thing with women, but. 1.00

00:40:12.720 What does that respect look like to you?

00:40:15.400 Yeah, should we dive deep into this?

00:40:20.080 I feel like we should go around the table more and then I'll get more ideas.

00:40:22.800 Okay, we'll do that.

00:40:23.560 I just want to say that could it be the case that it's the men that you are choosing that's the issue?

00:40:30.020 Absolutely.

00:40:30.420 Yeah, definitely.

00:40:31.780 It's probably, I'm just in a limited pool right now that I would definitely like to get out of.

00:40:36.640 Do you have any guys in the friend zone?

00:40:39.440 Yeah, I've definitely friend zoned some guys.

00:40:42.100 Why?

00:40:42.760 Because they're not exciting enough?

00:40:45.380 They're not attractive enough?

00:40:46.200 Yeah, I mean, at this point in my life, I'm young, obviously, so it's not like I'm looking for marriage.

00:40:51.940 I'm not really looking for kids.

00:40:53.220 And so when I look at a guy and like maybe he ticks the boxes more financially, more stability, that's like not really what's in the forefront of my mind.

00:41:01.880 Would you say you're attracted to bad boys?

00:41:04.100 I would say I'm more like looking at physical right now than.

00:41:08.620 Okay, their physical appearance.

00:41:11.460 Yeah, because I'm just younger.

00:41:14.260 Okay, what's your type?

00:41:16.280 Probably like darker features like tan, brown hair.

00:41:21.040 Okay.

00:41:21.320 Were you talking about looks or?

00:41:26.200 Well, I mean, I was just going to say you said you have some guys in the friend zone and I'd say if you looked towards them, they'd probably be the ones that were respectful and loyal.

00:41:34.780 But you're not attracted to them, so what can you do?

00:41:36.960 Go ahead.

00:41:37.320 Yeah.

00:41:38.460 But.

00:41:39.520 So anything dating related you want to get off your chest?

00:41:41.900 Oh, well, I think the cheating thing is like on top of mind.

00:41:45.660 Okay.

00:41:46.620 Even though I've never been cheated on.

00:41:47.580 So guys, just guys cheating?

00:41:48.380 It just makes me feel discouraged to want to commit to anyone.

00:41:53.220 But you've said you've never been cheated on?

00:41:54.820 Yeah.

00:41:55.840 But it discourages you to commit?

00:41:58.240 Yeah.

00:41:59.260 I'm trying to wrap my head around that.

00:42:00.180 Because you've seen your friends get cheated on?

00:42:01.960 Yes.

00:42:02.600 And I'm very into pop culture.

00:42:05.180 I've seen all these very good looking women get cheated on by men. 1.00

00:42:10.360 But you realize that's just because those are the stories that sell, and so that's the stuff that goes to the top.

00:42:15.380 No, I realize that, but I've seen it through my own perspective with people I know.

00:42:20.580 Yeah, but for every girl you know that's gotten cheated on, there's probably a bunch more women that haven't gotten cheated on and have committed relationships. 1.00

00:42:27.460 Yeah, I guess I'm young and naive still.

00:42:30.100 And you guys are in IV.

00:42:31.580 I mean, this is like not the place for committed relationships, you know?

00:42:35.160 What specifically about cheating hurts you girls?

00:42:39.620 Like is it the physical act of it, or is it the potential that the man is going to fall in love with another girl?

00:42:46.360 Well, I feel like sometimes it's not even like the guy likes the girl that they're cheating with, and it's like not like they don't love you, but they're just insecure, like have other issues going on.

00:42:57.060 But let's say they're just out one night, they're not insecure, and they meet a girl, and they just have a good time.

00:43:02.940 I'm sorry, if you're cheating, like I just, I feel like you're insecure.

00:43:05.760 I feel like that's why you're doing it.

00:43:07.220 At least that's why it's been explained to me.

00:43:09.040 Like that's how cheating's been explained to me.

00:43:11.500 Well, I mean, I can somewhat see that, but, and I think the right way to go about it is to really be more honest, just be open about it.

00:43:19.460 I think guys that want to sleep with many girls, open about cheating, no, no, open, no, open about, no, not open about cheating, open about wanting to sleep with other girls.

00:43:29.600 I think that's fair.

00:43:30.340 What?

00:43:30.380 There's open relationships.

00:43:31.140 Also, I think it's fair to say that it's not always like all on the guy.

00:43:34.900 Like I can fully admit that like I can't blame like the entire like collapse my relationship.

00:43:39.500 It's like he's a terrible person. 0.95

00:43:41.260 He's a villain.

00:43:42.160 He like never did anything good, and I'm like a total victim here.

00:43:45.060 Like if you're being a good partner, I don't know.

00:43:49.720 Like honestly, there were ways that I could have been.

00:43:51.980 I'm not justifying cheating, but I am saying that like everyone always has a reason for their actions, and frankly, I could have, there were ways I could have been a better girlfriend.

00:43:59.560 How so?

00:44:01.240 Just sort of like, I mean, obviously, we're both young.

00:44:03.840 We both could have been better at communicating, but I wasn't necessarily paying attention to his needs because I was sort of dealing with stress.

00:44:09.040 But in that way, like I thought I was being an amazing girlfriend, but by giving him like I thought he would like need, but really that like wasn't what he needed in time, and like he needed more like sexual validation, and I like wasn't giving it.

00:44:20.760 Wait, hold on.

00:44:21.600 He needed more sexual validation? 0.97

00:44:23.400 Yeah. 0.93

00:44:23.660 So you just weren't sleeping with him enough? 0.59

00:44:27.220 I was just.

00:44:29.000 Or were you not doing the things he wanted you to do that made him feel desired?

00:44:33.060 I honestly, well, I was just dealing with some like personal stuff that made like when you, I don't know, when you get like stressed and stuff, sex is sort of just the last thing on your mind.

00:44:42.300 And for him, he was taking it personally.

00:44:44.920 Like for him, he was feeling like unattractive.

00:44:47.320 You know, your partner's always going to sometimes, like I would have maybe done the same if he was like, yeah.

00:44:52.400 How long were you in a relationship with him?

00:44:54.340 A year.

00:44:55.180 What was the period of time in which you guys were not having sex?

00:44:58.540 We were never not having sex.

00:45:00.280 But you said.

00:45:00.880 He just, he just wasn't feeling like we were having sex enough.

00:45:05.100 Okay. 0.77

00:45:05.480 How frequently were you guys having sex?

00:45:09.840 Probably still like, I don't know, once a day, once every other day.

00:45:14.280 I don't know.

00:45:14.540 Was it the kind of thing?

00:45:15.900 That's a really healthy sexual relationship.

00:45:18.300 Was it the kind of thing where when he would go to initiate, like he didn't feel your desire towards him?

00:45:22.980 You weren't into it?

00:45:23.960 Yeah.

00:45:24.260 It was mainly, yeah, it was mainly that.

00:45:26.360 Was it a chore?

00:45:26.980 Oh, also, sorry.

00:45:27.680 So did he not feel like a connection to you in the process?

00:45:30.300 Yeah, yeah.

00:45:30.980 It was mainly, you know, he just like, that's like, like I've totally been in that position

00:45:34.380 too, where sex is an important way of like expressing love and like intimacy and feeling

00:45:38.420 like loved by your partner.

00:45:39.300 And I just like was not doing him justice in that regard.

00:45:43.700 And also though, I do, another reason he told me he did it was because a few months before

00:45:49.340 that I ended things with him.

00:45:51.420 So I broke up with him because I didn't see us getting married.

00:45:56.080 And I was like, if I know I don't see this long-term, I feel like I can't be with this

00:46:00.140 person.

00:46:00.980 I feel like I'm wasting his time.

00:46:01.360 Wait, so you guys were broken up at the time?

00:46:02.900 No, no, no.

00:46:03.400 We were broken up.

00:46:04.380 Basically, I broke up with him.

00:46:05.320 We got back together and he explained to me like, you weren't sad as, I don't know,

00:46:10.140 like I wasn't getting what I needed and I was, felt like my ego was hurt when you broke

00:46:14.500 up with me.

00:46:15.260 So that's why I did it.

00:46:16.020 Did you lose attraction to him or what happened?

00:46:18.300 Was it the physical aspect just wasn't there?

00:46:20.860 Was it?

00:46:21.380 I think it's just the stress.

00:46:22.380 Just, yeah, just like dealing with stuff and yeah, just like busy stuff on, on my

00:46:31.400 mind.

00:46:31.800 Honestly, I was way more focused on like, I need to be, I need to like bring him gifts

00:46:35.620 and like soup and stuff.

00:46:36.880 And he was like, that's not what I need right now.

00:46:37.940 A lot of girls say that sex is actually a stress reliever. 1.00

00:46:41.300 No, I love sex.

00:46:42.500 I, this was just one period of my time.

00:46:44.400 This was like a two month period where I just like was not, I was just like, like dealing

00:46:48.820 with stuff and was not being there for him and he was already butthurt.

00:46:53.060 So he was like, okay, well, but you feel like maybe it was possible that you were losing

00:46:56.680 sexual attraction to him.

00:46:58.960 Um, um, yes.

00:47:02.520 Uh, yes.

00:47:03.440 Yeah.

00:47:04.000 Yeah.

00:47:04.180 Which is normal.

00:47:05.660 I don't think it's a bad thing.

00:47:06.720 Our relationship ended.

00:47:07.520 It was painful what happened, but.

00:47:08.880 Was that because of the stress or was that because of how he was responding to it?

00:47:14.140 It was, I mean, honestly, it just goes back to, um, I also, um, I don't know.

00:47:18.820 I also feel completely terrible.

00:47:19.940 I feel like I, I don't know.

00:47:22.120 I'm really like exposing a lot out of like our relationship, but I'm not like naming any

00:47:25.900 names.

00:47:26.300 So, um, that's good.

00:47:27.920 But I mean, basically also if this like helps other girls, like I should say it.

00:47:31.740 It will.

00:47:31.980 I mean, at the end of the day.

00:47:33.020 The reason, the reason I asked the question is because Tara, Tara, Tara, what you're describing,

00:47:38.840 like, this is interesting to me because when I was growing up, I watched my family go

00:47:43.360 through a tremendous amount of stress with things that were happening in our lives.

00:47:46.440 The polarity and the chemistry between my mom and my dad fell way out of whack as they

00:47:51.580 were going through the stress.

00:47:52.820 I think that happens to a lot of families and like the husband and the wife will stop

00:47:57.900 having sex with one another because of the stress.

00:48:00.500 And then the marriage starts to fall apart.

00:48:02.080 So I guess like, I'm curious, like looking back, like it sounded like you were going through

00:48:06.320 a lot.

00:48:06.840 It sounded like that made the relationship difficult to maintain.

00:48:10.080 With everything that you were going through, was there anything that you as a woman could

00:48:14.240 have done differently to maybe better maintain this, the relationship?

00:48:18.220 Well, yeah, just, I mean, communicate better, but also, I mean, at the end of the day, I

00:48:21.600 was with someone who told me to his, to my face, like he cheated on me because he needed

00:48:26.640 to for his ego.

00:48:27.780 Prior to him, prior to him cheating on you, just communication.

00:48:30.860 Oh, um, I mean, prior to him cheating, I probably shouldn't have been with him in the

00:48:34.480 first place.

00:48:35.300 Okay.

00:48:35.620 Yeah.

00:48:36.100 So it's not a loss.

00:48:37.480 I mean, and that, that's just what it is at the end of the day.

00:48:40.060 Um, of course I'm going to run into problem and I'm not even, I don't, I don't take it

00:48:43.960 as like a huge victim moment.

00:48:45.260 Like I say like, Oh, we broke up cause we cheated.

00:48:46.880 But it's like the other day I probably, I'll just say like, we're not compatible because

00:48:49.820 So Tara, if you were, if you were with somebody that you were very compatible with, do you

00:48:53.840 think you would have found yourself in a similar situation where you were so stressed

00:48:57.140 that you were losing attraction or do you think you would have maintained the attraction?

00:49:01.480 No, I don't think, I don't think that would happen now.

00:49:03.680 I feel like I like learned from that.

00:49:07.060 Yeah.

00:49:07.400 I don't know.

00:49:07.780 It was just like being more also, I was just with someone.

00:49:09.900 He just like, I needed someone in that time period too.

00:49:12.400 Like I needed things from, I need him, but he, he just, we're going to move on from this.

00:49:19.460 Something dating related.

00:49:20.600 You want to get off your chest?

00:49:21.880 Okay.

00:49:22.180 So going back to my standards really aren't that high.

00:49:26.560 You guys need to figure out what the heck you want.

00:49:29.060 What do you want?

00:49:31.480 I mean, a lot of guys, if I could be totally blunt with you, a lot of guys want to be with

00:49:35.440 a woman who doesn't have kids. 1.00

00:49:38.300 And a lot of guys also want to see if they can finagle sex with a woman who does have 0.98

00:49:44.500 kids. 0.95

00:49:45.880 Why? 0.99

00:49:46.820 Because dudes are horny and dudes want to have sex. 1.00

00:49:48.940 And if you're talking to dudes on dating apps, 99% of them that you're talking to are going 0.99

00:49:53.320 to want to have sex with you. 0.98

00:49:54.520 Probably a small minority of them are going to want to be fathers to your children. 1.00

00:49:58.300 Well, kids or no kids guys want to fuck. 0.99

00:50:01.020 I mean, this is, this is prior to even having a child. 0.99

00:50:05.680 So many times I run into guys who don't know what they want.

00:50:09.380 They just mirror whatever you say to get in your pants.

00:50:12.400 Right.

00:50:13.480 So low value dudes, low value dudes.

00:50:16.320 But at the same time, it's just over and over and over again.

00:50:20.020 I mean, we're talking about 11 years dating experience right here.

00:50:24.760 I mean, so where do we find these high value dudes?

00:50:29.260 We're trying to make them.

00:50:30.280 Can I say my point about like the, anything you wanted to say about dating talk?

00:50:34.320 We'll come, we'll come to you.

00:50:35.660 Yeah.

00:50:36.880 Well, it's an answer to that.

00:50:38.360 The, the high value dudes are, they're not going to be there for, for, for women that 0.97

00:50:42.840 have kids already.

00:50:43.660 And so what about before I had a kid before you had a kid?

00:50:47.940 Yes.

00:50:48.440 I mean, still we're talking high value dudes, relatively speaking, small amount of them

00:50:53.940 relative to most dudes. 0.99

00:50:55.260 Most dudes aren't on top of their shit. 0.99

00:50:56.860 They don't have their life together. 1.00

00:50:58.120 They don't have their fitness together.

00:50:59.700 They haven't built a life that that's valuable.

00:51:02.500 Most guys are working towards that.

00:51:04.100 Well, I wouldn't even say most guys are working towards that.

00:51:06.280 Some dudes are working towards that, but a lot of guys are just, they're fine just being

00:51:09.620 average, you know, high value men.

00:51:11.820 It's a small pool of dudes, which is part of the reason why I, I have a lot of passion

00:51:16.680 for building a culture of building men into high value men.

00:51:19.600 Like I think every dude should be striving to become the greatest man that he can possibly

00:51:23.460 be, you know, but not a lot of dudes have that philosophy.

00:51:26.760 So that's my problem.

00:51:27.960 What, what are your, um, standards for a guy?

00:51:32.180 Like, let's talk, let's talk height, let's talk finances, let's talk.

00:51:37.680 So I don't really narrow it down to a physical attribute.

00:51:41.820 Right.

00:51:42.340 I can't say I'm five, two.

00:51:44.340 Okay.

00:51:44.760 Would you like, well, you'd be okay dating a guy who's average height?

00:51:49.240 Yeah.

00:51:49.680 I mean, I've dated guys that are my height or even a little shorter.

00:51:53.740 Okay.

00:51:53.940 Finances wise.

00:51:54.860 What are you?

00:51:55.180 How tall are you?

00:51:55.780 Five, two.

00:51:56.300 She's five, two. 1.00

00:51:56.820 So I mean, it's not hard for a guy to be taller than her.

00:52:00.080 No, not at all.

00:52:00.820 Um, finances wise.

00:52:02.100 What?

00:52:02.480 I mean, you, you, I assume that's kind of important because you want to have a family.

00:52:06.980 So, um, bare minimum for a guy to make a year.

00:52:11.300 I don't have a standard on that.

00:52:12.980 As long as your bills are paid, you don't have an astronomical amount of debt.

00:52:17.280 You have good credit.

00:52:18.660 So, you know, at least mid six hundreds, which is not even good, but it's something you could

00:52:26.140 get a loan.

00:52:26.960 If you don't mind me asking, how much, how much do you make a year?

00:52:30.400 I'm not going to disclose that.

00:52:31.560 Can you give us a, you know, is it about six figures?

00:52:33.640 No.

00:52:34.020 Okay.

00:52:34.920 No.

00:52:35.820 Um, so between 50 and 60,000, I'll tell you.

00:52:40.420 That's how much you make.

00:52:41.460 That's how much I make.

00:52:41.900 And would you like a guy who makes at least that much?

00:52:46.040 Well, I feel like if a guy is making less than let's say 45,000 a year, because right,

00:52:53.060 there's tradesmen out there that are perfectly good people, you know, they make good money.

00:52:57.900 They make great money.

00:52:58.940 They do.

00:52:59.380 They, I did construction for two years.

00:53:01.340 Yeah.

00:53:01.460 They make amazing money.

00:53:03.300 Um, but again, I don't put it on, you know, how much they're making because you can always

00:53:09.820 make more. 0.55

00:53:10.740 So I'm not going to put that standard.

00:53:11.980 Let's just say what's, what's the minimum?

00:53:13.840 If you were to start dating a guy, I would say 45,000.

00:53:16.600 If you have a decent job, you're making at least 40 to 45,000.

00:53:20.060 Okay.

00:53:20.320 If you have a decent, stable job, that's going to be.

00:53:23.860 What got you into construction?

00:53:25.720 So, so I wasn't throwing the hammer, right?

00:53:29.480 I was doing admin work.

00:53:30.500 Um, but my mom is actually in construction.

00:53:33.860 And so when I graduated high school, um, I got into a couple universities, but tuition

00:53:39.120 went up three grand, the, the, at the period that I was going to start, my parents weren't

00:53:44.180 prepared.

00:53:44.780 I didn't get to go to college.

00:53:46.060 So I went right into the field and started working with my mom on Marian Medical Center

00:53:50.820 in Santa Maria.

00:53:51.620 I was on the last year of that project.

00:53:53.680 And so that kind of catapulted me.

00:53:54.840 You live, you live up north a bit, Santa Ynez.

00:53:57.020 Yeah, I live in Santa Ynez.

00:53:58.080 Okay.

00:53:58.280 The rent, I think is a bit cheaper up there.

00:54:01.180 So it's Santa Ynez compared, well, compared to like Santa Barbara proper.

00:54:06.220 Yeah, it is.

00:54:07.060 You know, you know what we should do at some point?

00:54:08.820 We should run the calculator for the girls. 1.00

00:54:11.680 The, uh, we could do that.

00:54:12.640 Maybe a female delusion. 1.00

00:54:13.900 Oh God.

00:54:14.440 Oh God.

00:54:15.640 Well, it's, it's funny.

00:54:16.660 It's, it's, it's an interesting experiment.

00:54:18.140 Yeah, well, yeah, definitely.

00:54:19.480 I think, uh, we can go through it later, but I think probably the biggest issue you're

00:54:24.300 just, I mean, to be frank and I mean, Chase kind of already said it is a lot of guys are

00:54:28.640 going to see, and you seem like a perfectly wonderful person.

00:54:31.380 I, you're, I think you're attractive, but, um, definitely still babe status, but I think

00:54:37.360 a lot of guys are going to see, oh, she has a kid and that's going to probably be a sticking 1.00

00:54:43.200 point for them.

00:54:44.420 Exactly.

00:54:44.820 But I'm talking about, I'm talking from my experience with even the men who are okay

00:54:50.060 that I had a kid or that have a kid themselves.

00:54:52.200 They don't have their life figured out.

00:54:53.480 Like, what are you doing?

00:54:54.440 You're, you're 29, right?

00:54:55.580 Yeah.

00:54:56.060 29.

00:54:56.720 Um, what's the oldest guy you've dated?

00:54:58.980 Uh, 41.

00:55:00.020 So would you be willing to date an older guy?

00:55:01.860 Cause I was going to say maybe an older guy.

00:55:03.640 It's, it's not there.

00:55:05.200 No.

00:55:06.860 Hmm.

00:55:08.340 I find that surprising.

00:55:09.680 I feel like there's probably a lot of older dudes that would love to be with you.

00:55:12.720 You are in Sammy and Ness.

00:55:14.000 Older dudes, but here's the, well, no, Sandy and Ness is already filled with families or

00:55:18.040 old people. 0.53

00:55:20.260 Well, yeah.

00:55:21.020 Like, well, yeah.

00:55:22.280 Solving.

00:55:23.240 Wait, Solving or Sandy and Ness?

00:55:25.040 Solving and Sandy and Ness are not even like a mile apart.

00:55:27.680 They're on top of each other.

00:55:28.940 Yeah.

00:55:29.060 There's like, there's not a, you're in a very small area.

00:55:32.280 Exactly.

00:55:32.600 It's pretty, is it rule?

00:55:33.920 Is it considered rule or no?

00:55:35.280 It is.

00:55:35.840 Okay.

00:55:36.880 I think you got moved somewhere.

00:55:39.600 At the very, at the very least, you got to take the dating apps and broaden, you know,

00:55:43.640 the map, you know?

00:55:44.980 I mean, the Sandy and Ness solving area, there's very few dudes there.

00:55:48.280 So you guys are making an assumption that I will only date guys in Sandy and Ness.

00:55:51.980 I'm not.

00:55:52.580 Yeah.

00:55:52.860 Well, that's what you're implying.

00:55:54.560 So I am like tonight after this, I'm going to go meet up with someone who lives in Ventura

00:55:58.720 and he's going to drive up.

00:56:00.200 Yeah.

00:56:00.880 What?

00:56:01.200 And I'm going to go get a drink.

00:56:01.600 Why is that surprising to you, bro?

00:56:03.000 Yeah.

00:56:03.240 Why is that surprising?

00:56:04.220 Why is that surprising?

00:56:05.100 You told me I needed to broaden my horizons, right?

00:56:07.980 That's what Chase said here.

00:56:09.460 And I stand by it.

00:56:11.440 Okay.

00:56:11.960 So what, Ventura, that's like, okay, that's a 45 minute.

00:56:15.720 Bro, she's looking for love. 0.99

00:56:17.220 Well, he's going to meet me here.

00:56:19.360 I'm not driving anywhere.

00:56:20.080 Oh, he's meeting you here in Santa Barbara.

00:56:21.540 I'm not going to drive down to Ventura. 1.00

00:56:23.040 You're crazy. 0.99

00:56:24.100 He's meeting you here. 1.00

00:56:24.400 He's meeting you tonight?

00:56:25.340 Yeah.

00:56:25.880 After the show?

00:56:26.640 Yeah.

00:56:27.220 At 10 p.m.?

00:56:28.720 Probably.

00:56:29.340 For a first date?

00:56:30.580 Why not?

00:56:32.020 What are you guys doing?

00:56:33.000 I have Tuesday nights free.

00:56:34.160 Why is that surprising?

00:56:35.440 Well, that's a bit, I mean.

00:56:37.620 We're not sleeping together.

00:56:38.560 If you're looking for something, I don't know, for something serious, it's a bit, you might

00:56:44.480 want something, but he might have the impression that, okay, she wants to meet me at 10 p.m.

00:56:47.940 on a Tuesday.

00:56:49.920 She's.

00:56:50.520 I'm very upright.

00:56:51.260 Do you think he's watching?

00:56:52.640 I told everybody that I was going to be on here, so, you know.

00:56:55.200 You want to say hi to him?

00:56:56.620 Hi.

00:56:57.940 Dude, I think that's too far of a distance.

00:57:00.640 You know, a lot of people say when it comes to relationships, oh, it's about mutual attraction

00:57:06.100 or shared interests or what are the loyalty, commonalities, shared values, convenience, I

00:57:18.040 think.

00:57:18.480 I'm being a bit, I'm joking a bit.

00:57:20.160 Well, convenience is very important.

00:57:21.720 If you've got to drive, commute, I don't know, I don't, I'm not going to date some chick 1.00

00:57:27.160 in Ventura.

00:57:28.380 I don't care if she's a 10, I'm not going to go to Ventura for her. 0.82

00:57:31.760 She's looking to a man to properly be with, though.

00:57:34.740 Well, if we're talking convenience, obviously you're-

00:57:37.680 You're talking hookup culture.

00:57:38.200 It's even worse.

00:57:39.120 That's what you're talking about.

00:57:39.340 No, but it's even worse for a serious relationship.

00:57:41.480 I will speak personally, no distance, if a woman is worth it, no distance is too great. 0.99

00:57:45.900 You'll go to Sweden, we know. 0.99

00:57:47.280 Bro, yeah, I already went to fucking Denmark, bro. 0.99

00:57:49.360 Like, no distance is too great. 0.99

00:57:50.280 Wait, you actually went to Denmark?

00:57:51.620 Yes, I spent, I spent the summer in Europe to be with the girl that I loved.

00:57:54.720 How was it?

00:57:55.680 It was amazing.

00:57:56.580 That's awesome.

00:57:57.200 It was one of the best summers of my life.

00:57:58.520 But I think it makes it almost worse.

00:58:00.280 Like, it's one thing, but it's a one-time thing.

00:58:01.860 Bro, if you're a true romantic, no distance is too great, okay?

00:58:05.600 If you've got to drive more than 20 minutes, it's a wrap.

00:58:08.080 Bro, that's a wrap.

00:58:09.100 If she's worth it, it's worth it, bro.

00:58:12.140 I mean, there's plenty of fish out there.

00:58:14.780 I think that's what I'd say on that.

00:58:16.220 Not in San Ynez and Salvation.

00:58:17.580 We just covered that.

00:58:18.400 Well, you maybe have to, yeah, because of your location.

00:58:20.360 But I feel like I always hear about guys having, like, girlfriends in Denmark around this area.

00:58:26.040 Because there's a lot of hot girls in Denmark, and a lot of them come to school here. 1.00

00:58:29.860 Okay.

00:58:32.120 You wanted to come in on the, something to get off your chest?

00:58:35.980 Yeah, just that I feel like girls usually have, like, a really negative assessment of, like,

00:58:43.940 always, like, oh, where are all the good guys or whatever, like, all men cheat or whatever.

00:58:48.580 But I don't feel that way.

00:58:50.960 I don't know.

00:58:51.300 Even though I've, like, been cheated on, I, like, still don't feel that way.

00:58:54.380 I feel like I know, like, lots of very high-value guys and girls telling themselves, like, there's only terrible guys out there.

00:59:01.020 I don't know, like, who that serves.

00:59:03.320 And also, I just think they're wrong.

00:59:04.700 Like, from my experience, I've met, like, quite a few.

00:59:07.780 I have, like, no, like, I don't know, like, upwards of 10, like, high-value guys that have a problem finding, like, girls.

00:59:14.120 And they are, like, you know.

00:59:16.240 How do they have a problem?

00:59:17.900 Well, just, or just not even that, but that even, like, high-value guys get cheated on.

00:59:21.500 And I think girls underestimate, like, even if they see a high-value guy, they're like, oh, I can never be with that person. 0.95

00:59:26.240 I don't know, but, like, I think girls think that there's a very small amount and that they're super unattainable. 0.99

00:59:34.080 And I super don't think that's true.

00:59:35.000 I mean, on the one hand, you have to be, like, a high-value, like, woman. 0.75

00:59:37.840 But if you're that, I mean, I don't think you have anything to be worried about.

00:59:41.100 There's nothing to stress about.

00:59:41.980 You'll meet them.

00:59:42.640 I'd like to know, when you say high-value woman, what exactly does that mean to you?

00:59:47.440 That's a great question.

00:59:48.520 Yeah, someone who knows what they want, is very, takes good care of herself, herself has, like, good sense of humor.

00:59:59.100 We don't care about that.

01:00:01.040 You don't?

01:00:02.080 Not at all.

01:00:02.740 Okay, yeah, someone who has high standards for guys, who, like, has her priorities in line, has a good social life, knows how to have fun, balances things.

01:00:13.400 Here's a question.

01:00:14.760 What do you think makes a good wife? 1.00

01:00:16.200 I feel like, I really don't know what to say about this, but I'm guessing it's not that much different than what you would want in a good husband, considering it's, like, a partnership.

01:00:27.920 Very different.

01:00:28.600 Very different?

01:00:29.240 Okay, well, then I'm guessing it's someone who's more of, like, the, I guess that is true, but I guess, so, someone maybe more of, like, a caretaker, nurturer, has, like, I mean, I know for me as a wife, like, my number one priority will be my kids, making sure they have everything they need, raising them properly.

01:00:45.620 Yeah, that's a good mother. 1.00

01:00:47.420 That's being a good mother, but let's, let me reframe the question.

01:00:50.680 Yeah.

01:00:51.260 I want you to picture, like, the perfect guy in your mind for you to marry, okay?

01:00:55.640 High value, handsome, probably funny, makes a decent amount of money, okay?

01:01:00.840 A guy like that is going to have a lot of options that he can pick from.

01:01:04.400 Yeah.

01:01:04.620 He's going to be, if he's looking for marriage, he's going to be looking for a woman who's going to make a good wife. 0.58

01:01:11.220 Yeah.

01:01:11.620 Because there's women that make terrible wives, and there's women that make great wives. 1.00

01:01:15.140 What do you think you would need to embody as a woman to be that great wife for a guy like that? 1.00

01:01:20.520 Someone he would want to wake up to and go to sleep to every morning, so someone who will make his life positive, happy, fun, be the peace, not the pain kind of deal.

01:01:34.680 So, yeah, just fun, positive, loving, hot.

01:01:38.580 It's fun to be hot, so healthy, like, has their priorities in line, yeah, and enjoys them and appreciates them.

01:01:44.340 I like how you started that answer. 0.99

01:01:46.260 Have you guys ever heard the saying, it's a woman's job to make her man's dick hard, not his life hard? 1.00

01:01:51.340 That's disgusting. 1.00

01:01:53.320 But it's true. 0.88

01:01:55.400 It's true.

01:01:56.600 I actually just saw something pop up just now that said, high value men don't cheat on high value women.

01:02:04.580 Well, he wasn't a high value guy, so I'm not worried about that in my case, but that's a great point.

01:02:08.620 But the points that it's really rare to find a woman who's truly high value.

01:02:14.720 I think that's true as well.

01:02:16.380 That she understands how important it is that she respects the man that she's with.

01:02:23.600 One thing that I don't think girls know enough about, and correct me if I'm wrong, but it's that guys care way more about respect than I think girls think they do. 0.99

01:02:31.400 Yeah, that's everything.

01:02:32.440 Yeah, I think girls don't know that. 1.00

01:02:34.600 And so that is the number one thing that, like, one of the main things that I look for, like, in a partner.

01:02:39.580 Well, that's how we operate.

01:02:40.660 Is he someone I would respect, or am I showing him respect?

01:02:42.020 That's how we operate.

01:02:43.040 I mean, that's how you respect me.

01:02:43.920 That's how men operate. 0.95

01:02:45.420 We operate off of respect.

01:02:47.640 Girls do not think about that. 1.00

01:02:47.980 Girls, we say, like, oh, we want respect.

01:02:50.300 If girls want to respect, they wouldn't choose guys that disrespect them every day of their lives.

01:02:54.440 I'm telling you, girls don't care about respect in the way that guys do, even if they think so. 1.00

01:02:57.920 That's why this equal thing isn't right.

01:03:01.960 Because, you know, you'll say, a guy will say, we need a woman to respect us, but we don't respect women in the same exact way.

01:03:09.240 And girls will get upset by that. 0.99

01:03:10.900 But it's not the same thing.

01:03:12.020 We love women. 1.00

01:03:13.260 We have to be respected in order to love them.

01:03:15.380 So, a second ago, did you say that you want a man who you respect?

01:03:20.380 Something along those lines?

01:03:21.400 Yeah, I mean, if you don't respect, I mean, I feel that way with friendships as well.

01:03:24.160 I mean, anyone in your life, if you don't respect them, they shouldn't be in your life.

01:03:27.140 You're wasting both your time.

01:03:29.280 So, I love that you said that, because this is, I think, one of the biggest problems in the dating world.

01:03:35.180 A lot of guys are not worthy of respect.

01:03:38.120 They don't command respect from their women. 1.00

01:03:39.580 And it's not the kind of thing that you have to command, like, you have to respect me.

01:03:42.980 It's not that kind of thing.

01:03:43.820 I think dudes earn respect from their women. 1.00

01:03:47.020 Yeah, and it's an earning thing.

01:03:48.180 It's a fun, like, positive thing to seek out guys who are worth appreciating and appreciating them.

01:03:54.840 Like, that's like a win-win scenario.

01:03:57.300 Yeah, so I was going somewhere with that.

01:03:58.980 My question to you is, what makes a man worthy of respect in your eyes as a woman?

01:04:03.880 That's a great one.

01:04:05.140 And it's, okay, so worthy of respect, he has to have respect for himself, for his body, for his family, for his friends,

01:04:14.520 know the worth of his social relationships, know the worth of his work, be ambitious,

01:04:22.160 have, like, a genuine desire to contribute to his community, understand boundaries, be polite.

01:04:30.720 It's kind of like a long list.

01:04:33.020 Do you like, do you think it's a good thing when there's boundaries in a relationship?

01:04:36.740 Absolutely.

01:04:37.240 Is it a red flag for you if a guy doesn't have boundaries? 0.92

01:04:42.920 Yeah.

01:04:43.660 What does that mean?

01:04:44.700 What do you mean?

01:04:45.480 Like, when I say boundaries, I'm saying, like, if a guy, if a guy just doesn't, just lets his girl do anything,

01:04:51.680 and she can really control him, because a lot of girls will push that. 1.00

01:04:55.180 They'll push for a guy that lets them do whatever they want to do, but then they'll leave him.

01:05:00.700 So, what I'm saying is...

01:05:02.360 I think that comes down to respect.

01:05:03.480 That comes down to respect.

01:05:04.780 Yeah.

01:05:04.980 So, boundaries, I think, are extremely important in a relationship.

01:05:08.240 Support or trust.

01:05:10.340 I think if people trust each other in a relationship, they can do whatever they want to do, kind of.

01:05:16.440 Not like that, but I think it's also trust and respect.

01:05:21.160 So, can you get, like, so, for example, like, if you're going out on the weekend, like, should your boyfriend let you go out on the weekend to the club?

01:05:31.060 Yeah, 100%.

01:05:32.860 Should your boyfriend regularly let you go out to the club without him?

01:05:37.080 Yeah, I mean, honestly, if my boyfriend, I wouldn't care.

01:05:41.980 As long as I trust him.

01:05:44.880 No, I was asking if he should be cool with you regularly going out to the club without him.

01:05:49.640 Yeah, I mean, obviously, it's not, like, a one-way street.

01:05:54.100 If you had a boyfriend and he was regularly going to the club without you, you wouldn't see that as a red flag?

01:05:58.840 Okay, if he was going to the club without me and I wasn't there, for example, I'm, like, living in another state, in another city or something, but, like, if we're in the same place together and we're not going out together, like, that's a red flag, but other than that, like, live your life.

01:06:18.700 I'll speak for myself on this one.

01:06:20.480 Like, so, okay, I don't go to bars, I don't go to clubs, I don't go to parties.

01:06:23.540 I don't want, like, if I'm going to take a girl seriously, I don't want her going to bars, clubs, and parties. 1.00

01:06:31.140 Same.

01:06:31.780 Just be, one, it's a commonality thing, but also, two, when women go to bars and clubs, that's how you flirt. 1.00

01:06:39.700 You just, that's how women flirt is by showing up, just being there. 1.00

01:06:43.520 So it's basically infidelity.

01:06:45.500 It's one of the biggest red flags.

01:06:47.280 Okay, I don't see it that way at all, so.

01:06:49.640 Really?

01:06:50.080 That's very interesting.

01:06:51.040 I mean, why is it interesting?

01:06:52.540 I think that's interesting because me as a female who, you know, I like to go out.

01:06:56.860 I get out maybe, like, once or twice a year, but I like to go out.

01:07:00.520 When I go out, I'm not going out looking for a guy.

01:07:03.060 Yeah.

01:07:03.340 I'm not going out looking to flirt.

01:07:05.380 I want to jam.

01:07:05.920 That's what girls say. 1.00

01:07:07.040 That's what girls say. 1.00

01:07:07.660 I think almost all girls say that.

01:07:10.540 Okay, but.

01:07:11.040 No, that's not true.

01:07:12.220 That's not true.

01:07:12.940 You could say that.

01:07:13.920 Keep saying it, but you know very well when you go out, you're looking for attention.

01:07:17.980 Not really.

01:07:18.660 Yeah, even if you're not looking for a guy, you could be looking for attention.

01:07:21.420 Why would you, why else do you get, I feel like even if you're not going out looking

01:07:27.240 for a guy, you're looking for attention.

01:07:29.160 Why else would you dress?

01:07:30.460 Why else would you?

01:07:31.020 Exactly.

01:07:31.520 Spend one hour putting makeup on. 0.67

01:07:33.580 Put on these slutties outfit you own. 1.00

01:07:37.200 It's at least attention. 0.56

01:07:38.460 And I think, girl, I guess it's more that girls don't think like, oh, if it's just like

01:07:41.720 attention, it doesn't count.

01:07:43.020 If you're, that's not what you do when you're just hanging out with your girlfriends.

01:07:45.180 You're in your pajamas.

01:07:46.320 Attention is a mess.

01:07:47.160 All right, here's a question to settle it.

01:07:48.940 Here's a question to settle it.

01:07:49.980 You guys say you disagree.

01:07:51.980 Would you still get all dolled up to go out to bars and clubs and stuff like that if there

01:07:55.780 were only women present? 1.00

01:07:56.980 If there were zero guys there.

01:07:58.420 Yeah.

01:07:59.020 You would?

01:07:59.760 Yeah.

01:08:00.380 Maybe not as hard, but we would still want to feel ourselves.

01:08:03.900 Yeah, to probably, probably to take photos and then post them.

01:08:07.360 It just makes us feel better about ourselves.

01:08:08.560 Sometimes I don't myself up to go and walk down the street, like, not go to the club. 0.99

01:08:13.560 But this whole idea that girls dress up for themselves, that's bullshit. 1.00

01:08:17.240 That's bullshit. 1.00

01:08:17.740 Bullshit. 1.00

01:08:18.220 That's bullshit. 1.00

01:08:19.060 Expensive makeup. 1.00

01:08:19.720 Makeup's expensive.

01:08:20.700 Wait, wait, wait, wait.

01:08:21.480 Hold on.

01:08:21.980 One mic at a time, please.

01:08:23.280 So, do you want to say something and then we'll let Tara go?

01:08:26.000 Okay, sometimes I just do my makeup for absolutely no reason.

01:08:29.680 Yeah, when we feel bad about ourselves, we're like, we need to get done.

01:08:34.200 Allie will come into the bathroom and she'll be like, are you doing your makeup right now?

01:08:37.140 And I'm like, yeah, just like for no reason.

01:08:38.820 Because we want to feel better about ourselves.

01:08:41.160 So, we want to look bad and feel ourselves.

01:08:43.580 No, that's understandable.

01:08:44.840 Yeah, it's not for a guy all the time.

01:08:47.100 Sometimes we just want to take pictures.

01:08:48.480 But, but, that's understandable.

01:08:50.680 You don't understand it and you never will.

01:08:52.520 You said, you said sometimes we just want to take pictures.

01:08:55.260 Who's looking at those pictures?

01:08:56.540 Boys.

01:08:57.800 And girls.

01:08:58.520 We're not going to post them.

01:08:59.460 And girls.

01:08:59.980 Why is it just men?

01:09:00.200 Because you want female attention so much more than male attention.

01:09:03.240 And some girls go both ways. 1.00

01:09:04.340 The only reason you want girls' attention seeing you look good is so that they're jealous

01:09:08.100 of you because you're getting male attention. 0.99

01:09:09.620 I'm convinced of that.

01:09:10.300 I have one.

01:09:10.860 I'll let you come in real quick.

01:09:11.960 One quick question for you.

01:09:13.260 So, you said one of your big issues is that men cheating, right?

01:09:17.580 If you could find a guy that you, let's say in magical world, you guaranteed knew that

01:09:22.140 he would never cheat on you.

01:09:23.520 His one condition though is that you could not go out to bars, clubs, and parties anymore,

01:09:29.420 ever.

01:09:29.940 Would you be with that man?

01:09:31.500 Absolutely not.

01:09:32.500 But there it is.

01:09:34.080 There it is.

01:09:34.660 What do you mean?

01:09:34.920 Of course not.

01:09:35.500 That's controlling.

01:09:36.580 And I'm not here for that.

01:09:37.860 It's not.

01:09:38.340 It's not.

01:09:39.480 Here's the thing.

01:09:40.180 Here's what Brian's getting at, okay?

01:09:41.980 If I find a girl that I want to make my wife and I find her super attractive. 1.00

01:09:46.180 You make your wife. 0.99

01:09:47.120 Okay.

01:09:47.560 Yeah.

01:09:47.940 Because that's what I would do.

01:09:49.040 I would make her my wife.

01:09:49.880 I would ask her to marry me and then make her my wife. 0.98

01:09:52.360 You say, you are a feminist. 1.00

01:09:54.160 You're 100% a feminist. 1.00

01:09:55.240 That is feminist. 1.00

01:09:55.840 You look, you, you heard me say that.

01:09:58.640 I want to make her my wife.

01:10:00.880 Yeah.

01:10:01.360 Because that's what I would do.

01:10:02.460 It doesn't matter.

01:10:02.680 It's like, I'm an equal human woman.

01:10:05.500 Well, you, you, you, you say that.

01:10:07.960 It's not about you wanting to make her your wife. 0.54

01:10:09.520 Obviously she would want to be my wife. 1.00

01:10:11.480 She has her own life.

01:10:12.120 She wants to be your wife too. 0.98

01:10:13.840 Of course.

01:10:14.840 But she's not going to.

01:10:15.760 She wants to go to the club. 0.88

01:10:16.480 She wants to do her makeup.

01:10:17.260 No, she's not going to want to go to clubs.

01:10:19.100 She's not going to want to go to clubs. 0.89

01:10:20.360 She does.

01:10:20.380 She does.

01:10:20.900 Because here's the thing.

01:10:21.540 That's a non-negotiable for me in marriage.

01:10:23.080 Okay. 0.99

01:10:23.400 Well then, good fucking luck. 0.99

01:10:24.460 If I find a woman, if there's plenty of women out there that don't want to go to clubs 1.00

01:10:28.320 all the time.

01:10:29.000 Okay.

01:10:29.240 Well.

01:10:29.900 There's plenty of women out there that don't want to go to clubs in tiny little dresses and get hit 1.00

01:10:34.080 on by guys all the time.

01:10:35.380 There's plenty of them out there.

01:10:36.040 Well, maybe they just don't want to be hit on all the time.

01:10:38.420 Like, they just want to go and have a good time with their girlfriends.

01:10:41.540 Okay.

01:10:41.740 So you're telling me.

01:10:42.460 That's fine.

01:10:42.940 Hold on.

01:10:43.260 Hold on.

01:10:43.580 Hold on.

01:10:43.840 Hold on one second.

01:10:44.400 Let me make my point because she interrupted me. 1.00

01:10:45.880 Okay.

01:10:46.140 Fine.

01:10:46.360 What Brian was getting at, if I found some great woman, she's beautiful, I want to make 1.00

01:10:50.640 her my wife.

01:10:51.380 Okay.

01:10:52.220 If she's like, yeah, I want to go out to clubs all the time without you.

01:10:55.100 It's like, okay, I don't want that because what happens is beautiful women go to clubs 1.00

01:10:59.080 and they get hit on by chads all the time.

01:11:01.820 And I don't want her in situations like that.

01:11:03.620 But that's a reasonable thing to want.

01:11:06.400 So you only want to go out with just that girl.

01:11:08.540 Never.

01:11:09.340 Never.

01:11:09.540 I mean, I would be making her my wife.

01:11:11.380 Like, I, you know, I don't want another woman if she's my wife. 1.00

01:11:14.400 Exactly.

01:11:14.800 Men would still have relationships.

01:11:17.340 We would still have relationships with her. 0.97

01:11:18.840 Hold on.

01:11:19.040 Hold on.

01:11:19.060 What if you just want to go out with your friends?

01:11:20.540 Like, you really just want to go out with your friends one night.

01:11:23.380 That's fine, but that's different.

01:11:25.480 Why is that different?

01:11:25.980 We're talking about a club habit versus I just want to go out with my friends one night.

01:11:29.180 Okay, but what if you want to go out with your friends to the club?

01:11:30.980 That's what I'm talking about.

01:11:32.080 Like, what if I want to go out with Allie to the club?

01:11:34.040 If I'm married, I don't see any reason why my wife needs to go to a club. 1.00

01:11:37.700 What if she invited you?

01:11:38.900 What do you mean your wife?

01:11:39.240 Okay, I think it's just talking from experience.

01:11:41.160 We're both going to be like to party.

01:11:44.140 Why do you say my wife?

01:11:45.440 Like, why are you saying like my wife?

01:11:46.360 Yeah, you're like my wife.

01:11:47.200 Like, okay, so you can go to, can you go to the club and your wife can't? 1.00

01:11:51.080 Is that what you're saying?

01:11:51.620 I don't like going to clubs and I don't want to be with a woman that wants to go to clubs 1.00

01:11:55.120 and get male attention. 1.00

01:11:56.060 I think it's different when men and women go to the club.

01:11:59.280 The experiences that the two genders have are completely different. 0.98

01:12:03.720 So I think it would be a bit more acceptable for the guy to want to go.

01:12:07.200 But I think in our case, I don't go to bars, clubs, parties, and I think that's the case

01:12:13.480 with Chase too.

01:12:14.280 It is.

01:12:14.720 So not only is it just a commonality thing, but it's also just, oh, you're going to the

01:12:20.560 club, you're getting drunk, guys are coming up, hitting on you, there's a potential for

01:12:24.780 you to monkey branch. 0.97

01:12:26.020 So like if another guy comes up fucking some super high status guys, you're basically, 0.99

01:12:31.540 when women go to bars and clubs, you are putting yourself in a position, you're putting 1.00

01:12:35.280 the relationship at risk.

01:12:38.620 What's a, do people, okay, when alcohol, when alcohol is involved, do people cheat?

01:12:45.640 Do you think alcohol adds to the potentiality of infidelity?

01:12:50.520 Absolutely.

01:12:51.440 Hide in stimulation.

01:12:53.100 Oh, this is really exciting.

01:12:54.660 Oh, I'm with all my single friends. 1.00

01:12:56.620 They hate, they hate fucking Chase. 1.00

01:12:58.720 They hate Brian. 1.00

01:12:59.520 Lauren, can I, can I, can I explain to you something?

01:13:03.740 Can I explain to you something?

01:13:05.080 What?

01:13:05.900 It's Lauren, right?

01:13:06.880 Yeah.

01:13:07.280 Okay.

01:13:07.620 I have met probably seven married women in the past five years or so that wanted to cheat 1.00

01:13:14.000 on their husbands with me.

01:13:16.360 Okay.

01:13:17.180 Oh, I can relate, bro.

01:13:20.720 Yeah.

01:13:21.440 If you were my wife, you're an attractive girl. 0.68

01:13:24.100 Okay.

01:13:24.240 Well, I just went to Cabo and every single guy that was on a bachelor trip and was trying 0.89

01:13:28.100 to fucking cheat, so nobody's loyal. 0.91

01:13:32.740 That's not true. 0.99

01:13:33.640 There are people that are loyal, but if you were my wife and you were like, hey, I want

01:13:37.300 to go to a club, one of the reasons why I wouldn't be cool with it is because if you

01:13:40.960 went there, being an attractive girl, every dude in that club would see you walk in, they 1.00

01:13:46.500 would ask if they could buy you drinks, they would start chatting you up, they would start

01:13:49.800 flirting with you.

01:13:50.600 But that's on trust, and then that's like where you have to have trust in the relationship.

01:13:53.980 There's plenty of husbands that trust their wives and their wives still cheat on them. 1.00

01:13:58.640 Okay.

01:13:59.520 All it takes is a woman being around a guy who's charismatic and good looking enough

01:14:03.240 to talk to her just the way that she likes, she'll cheat. 1.00

01:14:05.860 But that's what you say, and you don't know that for sure.

01:14:08.120 Because I've seen it over and over again.

01:14:09.960 I've seen it.

01:14:10.340 I've seen it too.

01:14:11.020 I've seen it too.

01:14:11.800 I've seen that with men.

01:14:12.660 But look at the stats.

01:14:13.480 Which is part of the reason why I won't be going to bars or clubs either, because I'm

01:14:18.260 a man and I know that I'm tempted.

01:14:19.660 Okay, so you're not going on any bachelor trip.

01:14:21.220 You're just, you're staying in.

01:14:22.740 If I'm married, I'm not putting myself in a situation where I'm going to be getting

01:14:26.700 drunk around attractive women and flirting with them and stuff.

01:14:28.600 So are you and your wife, you're going to go on like a trip together?

01:14:30.520 No bachelor trip for you.

01:14:32.160 Together.

01:14:32.880 I don't know.

01:14:34.000 It depends on what the bachelor trip entails.

01:14:36.120 Because trust me, I've met a lot of guys on bachelor trips, and the groom is always down

01:14:40.720 to cheat.

01:14:41.200 I think it's different.

01:14:41.980 I think that's just like a, not a great guy.

01:14:44.020 That's not all guys.

01:14:44.700 Okay, so no bachelor trip for you.

01:14:46.680 Hold on.

01:14:47.980 You're using this one example.

01:14:50.160 I know like five dudes, five of my friends that are married, okay?

01:14:53.120 None of them had bachelor trips where they were putting themselves in situations where

01:14:56.520 they were going to cheat on their-

01:14:57.860 What?

01:14:58.240 Is it all in the women? 0.99

01:14:59.760 No, I'm not saying it's all in women, but you're saying all guys cheat on bachelor 1.00

01:15:03.060 trips, no bachelor trips, bachelor trips are bad.

01:15:05.720 But it's true.

01:15:06.320 I'm saying, Lauren, I'm saying there's dudes that do bachelor trips and they don't put

01:15:10.120 themselves in situations where they can cheat. 0.99

01:15:12.220 Guys that do that are shitty guys. 0.99

01:15:13.840 Okay. 0.99

01:15:15.020 And that's my point.

01:15:15.900 You're saying all guys do this, but that's not all guys.

01:15:17.920 And so then what's the flip side for women? 1.00

01:15:19.160 What do you mean, what's the flip side?

01:15:20.120 I just explained it.

01:15:20.900 Going to clubs, getting hit on, all that stuff.

01:15:23.120 So women just basically leaving their house, going to the bar, going anywhere social. 1.00

01:15:27.760 No, not going anywhere social.

01:15:29.360 We're talking, we've been talking about going to a club.

01:15:31.900 Okay.

01:15:32.420 Sorry for banging.

01:15:33.140 A club where women are in tiny dresses, getting drunk with a bunch of attractive guys. 0.95

01:15:38.240 It's totally different.

01:15:39.720 I'm not saying my wife can't leave the house.

01:15:42.140 I'm not saying my wife can't leave the house.

01:15:44.000 I'm not saying she can't go do social things.

01:15:46.040 Bars and clubs are the same thing.

01:15:47.160 The same thing as Trader Joe's.

01:15:49.140 The same thing, the same thing is going out.

01:15:50.860 I'm not talking about Trader Joe's.

01:15:51.400 I'm talking about the bar and the club.

01:15:53.020 The same thing is going to a restaurant with her friends or going and doing some outing.

01:15:56.780 They're not the same thing at all. 0.97

01:15:58.580 I just think it's ridiculous.

01:15:59.620 This would even try to say like someone, like a human being can't go where they want to go. 0.79

01:16:04.320 You think it's ridiculous that I as a guy would not want a wife putting herself in situations. 0.92

01:16:09.200 Me as a girl.

01:16:09.480 I can dress however I want.

01:16:10.100 Just listen to what I'm saying, Lauren.

01:16:11.820 You think it's ridiculous that I as a guy want a wife not putting herself in situations where she will get hit on by drunk dudes and where she will get drunk. 0.97

01:16:19.900 You think that's ridiculous? 0.54

01:16:20.620 I'm sorry. 0.64

01:16:21.120 Men should be able to control themselves.

01:16:23.280 But see, this is the part that I don't think you're quite understanding. 1.00

01:16:26.180 So much to fuck. 0.99

01:16:26.740 Is that you can do whatever you want, but you don't have to be with that guy. 1.00

01:16:31.800 If you want that high value man, you're going to have to sacrifice certain things.

01:16:36.040 If I love the guy I'm with, it's fine.

01:16:37.520 I'm not about to cheat on him.

01:16:39.340 Like when I'm out at the bar.

01:16:40.120 But what if that guy.

01:16:40.960 If guys can hit on me, that's fine.

01:16:42.040 What about a guy that you're with?

01:16:45.280 Like you're with this guy and he says, I don't want you doing that.

01:16:48.060 Then I would say that's controlling and I don't want to date that guy.

01:16:51.900 So you'll never love a man that's like that.

01:16:54.800 Yeah.

01:16:55.920 But I'm afraid that that's going to be a problem for you because then those are the guys.

01:17:00.660 Well, if it's a problem for me, then I'm never getting married and I've already kind of thought about that.

01:17:03.900 But that's what's happening.

01:17:04.960 That's fine.

01:17:05.360 That's your choice.

01:17:05.920 So you value your freedom to go to bars and clubs.

01:17:09.100 I just value my freedom and independence in general. 0.99

01:17:11.660 But I mean, okay, so part of being in a committed monogamous relationship involves a limitation of your freedom to, for example, fuck other men. 0.99

01:17:24.380 It's a sacrifice. 0.99

01:17:24.940 Yeah, no, I don't want to do that.

01:17:26.280 You don't want to make sacrifices for the relationship.

01:17:28.420 Okay, but so you're willing to only sleep with one person.

01:17:31.360 But so why not be willing to not go to bars and, and also I think it's like if you go out once or twice a year with like it's some birthday party, I think that would be okay.

01:17:43.820 Right.

01:17:44.160 Yeah, it's fine.

01:17:44.700 But if it's like a big deal, if it's like weekly thing, weekly, like I know you wanted to come in.

01:17:53.040 How old are you again?

01:17:55.100 I'm 27 years old.

01:17:56.300 Why do you have to put a limit on where I can go right now?

01:17:59.140 I think there's a difference because, no, no, no.

01:18:01.940 Putting you in jail because you can't go to clubs all the time?

01:18:02.920 I think we like to go out more because we're still 22 years old.

01:18:07.080 We enjoy going to bars and clubs and getting attention from men.

01:18:12.420 Yeah, that's fine.

01:18:13.420 That's fine.

01:18:13.860 That's your guys' choice.

01:18:14.780 You're, you're free to do it, but it's probably going to, it makes you less of a appealing person to be in a serious relationship with.

01:18:24.860 I get that.

01:18:25.500 And I think we don't want that right now.

01:18:27.440 They don't want high value men that want to commit to them. 1.00

01:18:30.240 If I was 27, 29, whatever, I would want someone who wouldn't go to bars and clubs because I would be insecure that they would cheat on me. 0.97

01:18:39.160 This is the problem.

01:18:39.960 Thank you.

01:18:40.480 But this is, this is the problem right now.

01:18:42.960 This is the problem that we have.

01:18:44.380 We have a problem right now, though, which is that girls realize this at too late of a time. 1.00

01:18:48.840 So they're realizing this shit at 27. 0.99

01:18:51.460 Did I realize it earlier? 0.99

01:18:53.120 Yeah, because we're talking about, I'm 23.

01:18:54.900 And I think a lot of guys out there that are listening too, they're younger.

01:18:58.160 We're realizing this stuff right now because it's important.

01:19:01.000 And girls need to realize this at a younger age as well because 27 is too late. 1.00

01:19:05.120 Then you've already, you've already experienced everything that you probably are going to regret at that point.

01:19:10.300 You might even have a kid at that point.

01:19:12.420 You might be in a situation that's not, that's no longer attractive to find that type of man that you want to be with.

01:19:18.680 So you, so girls focus on like finding a man, maybe just like focus on yourself, but that's what girls are doing. 1.00

01:19:24.500 And it's leading to the, to the most depressed women of all time. 0.99

01:19:27.840 I think, okay, he's right.

01:19:30.080 Go ahead.

01:19:30.640 You wanted to come in.

01:19:31.700 So I think that if anyone is habitually going to a club outside of the once or twice a year,

01:19:37.480 I think that there's a deeper issue that you need to ask about that person.

01:19:41.300 Not necessarily the attention they're seeking, but are they alcoholics?

01:19:45.440 Are like, if you're going out to get drunk once a week, at least, I think we're talking about a deeper issue than just cheating.

01:19:52.540 I think we're talking about addiction here.

01:19:54.460 I mean, that's pretty much the norm for people who are in college.

01:19:57.400 Probably Thursday, Friday, Saturday, at the bars, clubs, parties, and stuff.

01:20:02.600 I'm not, is, would that constitute, it probably, I mean, alcoholics.

01:20:07.580 I think, honestly, college is like a fast track to being an alcoholic.

01:20:12.340 Yeah.

01:20:13.100 You're talking about binge drinking.

01:20:14.700 That's what you're talking about.

01:20:15.500 Did you have more on that?

01:20:17.600 That's really, I think that was the disconnect at the beginning of the conversation was,

01:20:21.900 would your wife be allowed to go out to a bar or a club? 1.00

01:20:25.340 So, in my mind, that's once or twice a year.

01:20:28.040 What's the big deal?

01:20:29.140 You're talking about habitually, that should go for both partners.

01:20:31.780 Nobody should habitually be going out.

01:20:34.220 Yeah, and I tried explaining that.

01:20:35.720 And in case it wasn't clear to the viewers, this was not about whether or not you would let your wife go to a bar or a club.

01:20:42.540 It's, would you want a woman who's regularly going to a bar or a club without you? 1.00

01:20:47.120 Or would you want a man who's regularly going to bars and clubs without you?

01:20:50.680 Okay, maybe not regularly.

01:20:52.140 I'm just saying, like, as long as the option's there and there's no, like, you can't do this, you can't do that.

01:20:59.060 Yeah, I mean, if I have a high level of trust with my wife and, like.

01:21:02.860 I'm saying every once in a while, it's fine.

01:21:04.320 I'm not saying, like, I'm going out with you.

01:21:05.900 You are so bad about interrupting.

01:21:07.100 It's crazy.

01:21:07.820 Okay, sorry.

01:21:08.240 You build trust, though.

01:21:09.940 You have to build trust by not having these beliefs that you have.

01:21:13.760 If the man that you're with knows about you, that you think going out to clubs, staying out late, getting drunk with your girls is okay, he's not going to trust you ever.

01:21:23.380 Because that's not something that we look for.

01:21:25.080 Yeah, and, like, the same goes for the opposite side.

01:21:28.060 That's fine.

01:21:28.540 And that's fine.

01:21:29.280 That's true.

01:21:29.900 Yeah.

01:21:30.420 That's totally cool.

01:21:31.400 You can ask for that in a guy, too.

01:21:32.740 And a lot of guys will respect that.

01:21:35.020 Well, we look for that.

01:21:36.140 But, Liv, was there something you wanted to say before you?

01:21:39.700 No, I'm just taking it all in.

01:21:42.440 I think that you get what you attract.

01:21:45.920 And, you know, if you're a young girl and you are dating a young guy who also likes to go to clubs, then you guys are a perfect match.

01:21:52.520 If you're somebody looking to settle down, then you're going to attract somebody who's going to settle down.

01:21:57.140 Yep.

01:21:57.600 That's all I have to say.

01:21:58.780 Yep.

01:22:00.000 Okay.

01:22:00.720 I want to move on from this conversation to our next topic here.

01:22:04.820 And then we will pick up back on the anything you want to get off your chest dating related.

01:22:09.740 We will get to you.

01:22:10.620 Did you have something you wanted?

01:22:11.960 Lauren absolutely roasted in the comments.

01:22:13.740 But, yeah.

01:22:16.600 Sorry.

01:22:17.180 Actually, let me do one super chat really quick because we got one of our regulars back in here.

01:22:23.040 Dave on Jackson.

01:22:23.580 Dave on Jackson.

01:22:24.420 Thank you for the $10 super chat.

01:22:25.580 Y'all are literally defending the poor mentality that'll have y'all single and wondering why good men won't commit to you.

01:22:34.040 This is a fact.

01:22:36.900 Boom.

01:22:37.680 Mic drop.

01:22:38.380 Boom.

01:22:38.960 Dave on Jackson.

01:22:39.700 Thank you for the $10 super chat, man.

01:22:40.860 Much appreciated.

01:22:42.180 I mean, like I said earlier, I mean, you guys said, well, your big quarrel with men is infidelity, but the men you are finding are tolerating your borderline alcoholic partying behavior.

01:22:57.000 So, how should we act to attract guys that want to commit to us and won't want to be women that are worthy of commitment?

01:23:09.340 Okay, but we're 22.

01:23:11.100 How would you want, what would you be attracted to as a 22-year-old man?

01:23:15.980 A woman that's not going to bars and clubs every Thursday. 1.00

01:23:19.000 When you're 22?

01:23:20.140 Yes. 1.00

01:23:20.380 I mean, there's plenty of men that don't fuck with going to bars and clubs and all that shit. 0.99

01:23:24.700 What's your opinion? 0.99

01:23:26.320 Thank you.

01:23:26.900 So, I think, like I just said, you're going to, as a young girl, I mean, I understand both sides because I've been on both sides.

01:23:36.760 I've wanted to settle down and then I've also had my party stage where I partied really hard in high school.

01:23:44.400 So, I feel like I got it like out of my system very fast.

01:23:47.600 But then again, I still have my nights where I want to go out.

01:23:51.380 If I'm dating somebody, I would like to have them there with me.

01:23:55.760 I feel like it's just fun when you can go out together.

01:24:00.520 And, like, yeah, like I said, you're going to attract what you want out of a relationship.

01:24:05.280 If you want to go have fun, you're going to date somebody who's going to have fun.

01:24:08.660 Not, like, people who don't go out don't have fun.

01:24:10.820 But if you want to date somebody that goes out with you, that's more power to you.

01:24:14.780 If you want to date somebody who is more ready to, like, settle down, get a life started, kids, whatever, then that's what you're going to have.

01:24:22.260 But it will never work if you have somebody who is constantly wanting to go out and you want to, you know, get things moving.

01:24:30.260 So, I think it's more of you just have to come to a mutual agreement of what you both want.

01:24:35.440 And it's better to find that out sooner than later or else it's going to be ugly.

01:24:39.600 And we don't even need to be ready for marriage or anything like that.

01:24:42.860 It's pretty simple.

01:24:44.040 Just don't be going out.

01:24:45.340 Don't be getting drunk with your friends.

01:24:47.980 I'm not saying don't ever go out with your friends.

01:24:50.380 I'm saying, like, if that's a normal thing, if going out with your friends and getting drunk at night in clubs and bars and doing all that stuff is your thing, we don't want that.

01:24:59.420 We want you to be with us and we want you to ask us to go out.

01:25:02.260 So, you're generalizing a group of people that like to go out?

01:25:05.060 And when you were 22, what did you guys do for fun?

01:25:07.840 That was last year for me.

01:25:08.960 Yeah, and where did you meet your girlfriend?

01:25:11.380 Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.

01:25:12.620 Okay.

01:25:12.900 Here he is.

01:25:13.180 I was 22 five years ago.

01:25:16.360 Me and all my boys were talking to a lot of girls.

01:25:19.220 Okay.

01:25:19.380 If any of us were talking to a girl and we liked her and she was going out to parties, we were going out to parties too.

01:25:25.940 If we liked her and we wanted to date her, you know, we would start talking to her. 0.83

01:25:29.180 And then at some point in the relationship, the conversation would come like, hey, we should start spending more time with one another.

01:25:35.420 And if at that point in time, the girl was like, well, you know, I also want to keep going to parties without you.

01:25:40.040 Then it's like, okay, well, I don't want to date you then.

01:25:42.380 If you find a guy who wants to spend time with you when you want to go out partying and going to clubs and stuff, like, that's the guy who's going to commit to you.

01:25:51.620 And if it means you sacrificing going out to clubs every single weekend to be with him, like, that's the sacrifice, that's the compromise that you have to make.

01:26:00.100 That's the compromise that you have to make for a guy that wants to be with you.

01:26:02.740 And it doesn't mean that you can't ever go out.

01:26:04.700 Like, my boys would go out with their girlfriends to parties all the time and stuff.

01:26:08.100 Like, you can still have fun, but it's a pretty small compromise to make for a guy who wants to be with you.

01:26:14.100 It doesn't mean he's going to control your whole life.

01:26:16.620 It just means you can't go to frat parties every single day.

01:26:18.060 So why do girls think that it's the end of the world? 1.00

01:26:19.940 There's such a focus.

01:26:21.620 Like, on going out in clubs here, like, that's not even, I feel like, the focus of most relationships are, like, a huge point of contention almost.

01:26:29.420 I feel like we're really just focusing on it here.

01:26:30.260 Because most chicks don't want to go to clubs all the time. 1.00

01:26:32.760 Like, to be honest, it's like, I can't really even speak on it because I'm not in a relationship right now.

01:26:36.780 And if I were in a relationship, like, I don't think I would even be focused on this going to the club, not going to the club, bars.

01:26:42.740 But that's what's going to cause you to end up breaking up with them is the fact that it's going to come down to something where, like, you do go out, and then they're going to get upset about it.

01:26:50.980 And then you're going to call them insecure and do the whole thing where...

01:26:53.720 You're saying that's like...

01:26:54.740 Can I say that?

01:26:55.220 Yeah, I'm saying that's what...

01:26:56.800 I'm curious to hear from you.

01:26:58.260 Let me get this soup chat really quick, and we'll have Liv come in real quick. 1.00

01:27:01.320 That's okay.

01:27:01.500 Davon Jackson with the $10 soup chat.

01:27:03.440 You keep saying, I'm 22, like, it's an excuse.

01:27:06.960 You aren't a child and are able to make grown decisions.

01:27:10.020 I met my girl in Barnes & Noble.

01:27:13.080 King.

01:27:13.640 Is that store even still open?

01:27:15.320 I love Barnes & Noble.

01:27:16.540 Borders?

01:27:17.320 Is that...

01:27:18.040 Okay.

01:27:18.300 Yeah, it's still around.

01:27:19.200 Hey, Davon Jackson, thank you for the $10 soup chat, man.

01:27:21.460 Much appreciated.

01:27:22.380 Go ahead, Liv.

01:27:22.820 I just want to say, I understand both sides.

01:27:27.600 They are younger.

01:27:29.720 So who goes to say that they don't meet somebody later on that completely changes their mind?

01:27:35.600 They might.

01:27:36.240 I hope they do.

01:27:37.720 But if it doesn't happen, that's their personal choice.

01:27:41.480 But at the same time, there could be a man that comes into the life, or a woman, you know,

01:27:46.000 you know, that makes them want to change.

01:27:49.980 And that...

01:27:50.700 I hope they find them.

01:27:52.320 Yeah.

01:27:52.520 So if you're going through a party phase, you're almost sort of necessarily also going through

01:27:57.320 a hoe phase. 0.99

01:27:59.140 I mean, if you're going to bars and clubs and parties, like, the likelihood that you're

01:28:04.180 hooking up with a bunch of different dudes, like, so you're ramping your body count up,

01:28:08.080 so then that guy is going to, like, is going to look at that and just be like, and maybe

01:28:12.640 you're not.

01:28:13.180 Maybe you're just innocently going to bars and clubs and parties.

01:28:15.540 But we know people hook up in these sorts of environments, so you're going to be making

01:28:21.300 yourself less appealing, less attractive to that guy that's going to come around.

01:28:26.280 So, I don't know, man.

01:28:28.640 Guys don't want, like, party chicks. 1.00

01:28:30.620 Like, to take seriously, we don't want party chicks. 1.00

01:28:33.260 I don't want a chick who's ran through either. 1.00

01:28:35.200 Yeah.

01:28:35.800 Body count.

01:28:36.220 I don't want a party guy either.

01:28:38.180 But you party.

01:28:39.460 But you guys party.

01:28:40.840 I don't party, to be honest.

01:28:41.540 Why are you trying to control his life?

01:28:43.660 Let's, hold on, we're going to move on from this topic.

01:28:48.340 I got something else.

01:28:49.100 I got something else.

01:28:50.000 All right.

01:28:50.560 So, around the table, do you believe in astrology?

01:28:56.600 Yeah, I think so.

01:28:58.900 I just know about mine, so yes.

01:29:00.640 Yeah, I know about mine.

01:29:01.460 Okay, but do you, and also, do you believe in astrology, and do you also ever use it to

01:29:05.080 kind of suss out if this guy is a good match?

01:29:08.940 Oh, he's a Virgo.

01:29:10.000 Yeah, I've never used it towards a guy, just myself.

01:29:12.920 Okay, but you believe in astrology.

01:29:14.840 Yeah.

01:29:15.200 Okay, just, do you believe in astrology?

01:29:16.440 One million thousand percent, no.

01:29:19.140 I think it's interesting.

01:29:20.200 I definitely look at it, because I think it's a different perspective, whether or not it's

01:29:25.140 true or not, I don't know.

01:29:26.260 But I definitely do look at it.

01:29:27.980 There are similarities that I find.

01:29:31.900 I don't personally, like, really believe or go deep into it, but I've been educated on

01:29:39.180 it by people who do believe in it, and I've read up on it a little bit, and I could see

01:29:45.860 how I relate to my sign a little bit, or how I have certain traits, but I'm not, like,

01:29:54.460 I'm not dating him because he's a cancer type of inuit. 1.00

01:29:58.820 I feel like everyone just can find something in astrology and just relate to every single

01:30:04.140 sign.

01:30:04.560 Like, I've looked through, I'm an Aries, and I've also read, like, all the other ones,

01:30:09.540 Libra and all that other shit, and, like, you can always find one to relate to, so I

01:30:13.120 don't believe in that at all.

01:30:15.260 So, astrology is an interesting one.

01:30:17.440 Uh-oh.

01:30:19.640 You know, you've got two different things going on here.

01:30:22.460 You got the astrologers, what's up?

01:30:24.460 You got something to say?

01:30:25.880 Oh, no, go ahead.

01:30:26.620 Go ahead.

01:30:27.300 You got the astrologers that are telling white women what they want to hear, and they're making 0.88

01:30:32.600 boatloads of money off of it, okay? 1.00

01:30:35.380 That's bullshit. 1.00

01:30:36.880 All of that, that's nonsense. 1.00

01:30:38.460 They're just telling women what they want to hear. 1.00

01:30:40.920 Then you've also got a very real science of astrology, and I've spent time looking into

01:30:47.460 it a few years ago.

01:30:48.700 I was in a new age phase in terms of spirituality.

01:30:50.680 What do you mean science of astrology?

01:30:53.620 Yeah, so...

01:30:54.540 I didn't know there was such a thing.

01:30:57.040 Yeah, so...

01:30:57.560 Did you say astrologers?

01:30:58.380 It's down to your birth date and time.

01:31:00.200 What'd you say?

01:31:00.700 The chat is going to turn on you, Chase.

01:31:03.120 Did you say astrology?

01:31:04.040 I'm going to turn on you, Chase.

01:31:05.260 That's all right.

01:31:05.820 I'm fine with it.

01:31:06.600 Well, and let me make the caveat.

01:31:08.260 I don't think astrology is something that people should look deeply into, especially as a Christian.

01:31:12.800 This falls under the umbrella of divination, people trying to do fortune telling.

01:31:16.900 I don't think it's something that people should pursue.

01:31:19.560 When I was less serious about my faith, I did look into it deeply because I knew a lot of people that were into it.

01:31:25.020 Very smart people.

01:31:26.220 I read my birth chart.

01:31:27.920 It was pretty mind-blowing how accurate it was to me as a person, and it was the kind of thing where you could tell it wasn't an accident.

01:31:34.440 It wasn't like, oh, I'm looking at this, and I'm trying to find these traits.

01:31:37.560 No, it was like a description of my physical characteristics, what I look like, how I act, traumas that I've had in my life.

01:31:46.740 It was very, very specific.

01:31:48.140 Talked about health issues that I've had.

01:31:49.980 Very, very real stuff.

01:31:52.620 When I call it a science, there's a matrix of energies, and this is going to sound crazy to people.

01:31:56.940 There's a matrix of energies in the universe that are organized by the planets, okay, and there's a lot to it.

01:32:02.300 Eric, can you pull up the study that was done recently on astrology?

01:32:10.760 All right, so this is the abstract.

01:32:13.140 Belief in astrology is on the rise, although the reasons behind this are unclear.

01:32:16.480 We tested whether individual personality traits could predict such, I can't pronounce that word, unfounded beliefs.

01:32:22.100 Ooh, narcissism.

01:32:23.020 Data was collected for blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

01:32:26.800 Narcissism was surprisingly the strongest predictor, and intelligence showed a negative relationship with belief in astrology.

01:32:35.960 It's so over for me.

01:32:37.320 Overall, our novel results suggest that something as innocent as astrology could both attract and possibly reinforce individual differences.

01:32:47.440 Eric, if you can bring it back.

01:32:48.440 Yeah, basically, I think that study says that people who believe in astrology are less intelligent.

01:32:53.980 I mean, yeah, shots fired.

01:32:56.900 Shots fired.

01:32:57.600 I'll just say this.

01:32:58.620 Like, four of my friends have looked at their birth charts, and I have a buddy of mine who's a student of the occult.

01:33:04.640 He's studied Freemasonry.

01:33:05.780 He's studied all sorts of stuff.

01:33:07.920 And of the four or five of my friends that have done their birth charts, they are almost pinpoint accurate for each of my friends and their individual personality traits, and it's not an accident.

01:33:18.440 So that's my take on it.

01:33:19.800 Good times.

01:33:20.400 Let me get some super chats, and we'll go into our next question here.

01:33:22.740 Did you have something you wanted to say, Tara?

01:33:24.320 A quick thing, real quick thing.

01:33:25.700 Yeah, go ahead.

01:33:25.840 So I came to UCSB to study physics here, so I have mainly a physics background.

01:33:32.020 So I'm just going to say from the physics side, I just cannot ever associate myself with astrology.

01:33:37.780 It is just pretty antithetical to science to me.

01:33:39.880 And then also on the psychology side, now that's my main major now, I've also, you know, read some papers on the psychology behind belief in astrology, similar to that one, and one of them being, like, a common thing you'll run into is confirmation bias.

01:33:54.420 So you're going to believe and remember the things that are correct, and you're just, by your, like, nature, not going to pick up or, like, care about the things that don't align.

01:34:05.400 So just two things.

01:34:07.320 Okay, so in response to that, I'm just saying, yeah. 0.98

01:34:08.780 This is why I say that astrologers who sell bullshit to white women is definitely a thing because of the confirmation bias that you're describing. 1.00

01:34:17.260 You just alluded a second ago to the idea that the planetary bodies have no impact on our behavior, on our personalities, anything like that. 0.98

01:34:24.520 Do you think that's true?

01:34:26.160 That they have, there's no impact on human behavior, the stuff in the solar system.

01:34:31.520 Do you think that's true?

01:34:32.180 I mean, that's pretty broad.

01:34:35.160 I'm going to go with a no there, but, yeah.

01:34:39.300 Okay, so.

01:34:40.680 I just wanted to ask that question so I could dunk on everyone with the study.

01:34:44.940 You never did the buzzer button.

01:34:46.640 I was waiting for that.

01:34:47.620 I really.

01:34:48.220 This is, like, the most boring conversation.

01:34:50.120 Like, astrology is just boring.

01:34:51.360 I want to vindicate myself.

01:34:53.220 Give me 20 seconds. 1.00

01:34:55.760 Because I don't want to think you're a stupid narcissist. 1.00

01:34:57.800 I want there to be hope there, so please persuade me. 1.00

01:35:00.940 I would hope that study didn't just convince you that I'm a stupid narcissist. 0.98

01:35:04.700 But human behavior is directly correlated with the lunar cycle. 0.99

01:35:09.640 Okay, so the term lunatic comes from the fact that people act erratically around full moons.

01:35:15.840 Crime rates worldwide skyrocket with every full moon.

01:35:19.820 This is a known and studied phenomenon.

01:35:22.580 Well, isn't that because it's brighter out because of the moon?

01:35:26.760 Yeah, that's my first thought there.

01:35:28.200 You think that people are committing increasing crimes?

01:35:31.760 Women's cycles are affected by the lunar cycle? 1.00

01:35:34.180 You think all that's just because the moon is brighter?

01:35:36.960 Well, because it's brighter, but also if the moon is visible, that would also suggest that there's clearer skies.

01:35:44.520 So temperature is related to criminality also.

01:35:48.060 If it's cold, people are staying inside. 1.00

01:35:50.160 They're less likely to be out fucking doing crime and shit. 0.99

01:35:52.860 I mean, our bodies are like 75% water and the moon affects the tides. 0.99

01:35:59.100 It affects all of the water on the planet.

01:36:00.740 I'd be surprised if it doesn't affect us in some way.

01:36:04.180 And I don't think it being bright out changes worldwide behavior.

01:36:08.920 You know, I'll have to look into it, but thank you for inspiring me.

01:36:12.280 I'm going to look into that.

01:36:13.220 We'll have to look at the study, but let's get some super chats and then we'll get into our next question.

01:36:16.420 Dave on Jackson, thank you for the $10 soup chat.

01:36:18.420 If she looks like a 3-0 foe, associates with the 3-0 foes, and goes where the 3-0 foes go, then she most likely a 3-0 foe. 0.98

01:36:25.860 Sorry, not sorry.

01:36:27.020 Hashtag, sorry, not sorry.

01:36:28.440 Also Aries game.

01:36:29.340 Hey, let's go.

01:36:30.960 Okay.

01:36:31.880 Dave on Jackson, thank you for the $10 soup chat.

01:36:34.240 Facts, man.

01:36:34.900 Facts.

01:36:36.980 Christian Kane with the $10 soup chat.

01:36:38.760 What they need to realize is that most men don't ask for much in their woman.

01:36:41.780 On the other hand, they have a long laundry list of qualifications for a man, and you can't even stay out of the club.

01:36:48.360 Shaking my head.

01:36:51.040 It's a fact.

01:36:51.900 Christian Kane, thank you for the $10 soup chat.

01:36:54.680 I think that's the first time I've seen you, man.

01:36:55.980 Welcome.

01:36:57.400 So, I think we kind of beat a dead horse with the club thing.

01:37:02.640 Maybe we go back there later, but let's see.

01:37:05.420 Last one here.

01:37:06.360 We got Dave on Jackson with the $10 soup chat.

01:37:08.800 I learned astrology purely for women.

01:37:11.000 I don't believe in it, but I learned which signs are compatible to know which birthdays to say for a long time.

01:37:17.040 Okay, so he's basically just changing it.

01:37:19.200 I guess changing up his sign.

01:37:20.960 Just telling women what they want to hear so they fall in love with him. 1.00

01:37:23.840 Fucking top G over here. 1.00

01:37:25.960 Fucking lad. 1.00

01:37:26.980 You probably text them at 1111 too. 1.00

01:37:29.380 Probably.

01:37:30.100 You know what?

01:37:30.980 Manufacturing synchronicities. 1.00

01:37:33.040 Oh, shit. 0.99

01:37:33.560 We got Mike Davis back. 1.00

01:37:34.500 Can we get...

01:37:35.080 Where's his vigil?

01:37:36.500 Can we get his vigil?

01:37:38.180 Where's his vigil?

01:37:39.120 Yeah, let's put it on the table.

01:37:40.100 Can you get his vigil?

01:37:41.800 Let's just put it on the table there for just a sec.

01:37:44.860 Mike Davis, can you at least finally address the vigil?

01:37:49.040 Good sir.

01:37:49.640 Can you please address it?

01:37:51.100 You refuse to comment on the vigil.

01:37:54.060 Can you go center, Eric?

01:37:56.380 Or center Zoom?

01:37:57.800 There we go.

01:37:58.340 Boom.

01:37:59.000 Address it, Mike Davis.

01:38:00.780 Okay.

01:38:01.060 The only two people that belonged in astrology are non-religious women desperate for an identity 1.00

01:38:05.480 and culture are usually white and men trying to pick them up.

01:38:08.880 Okay.

01:38:10.140 Word.

01:38:12.700 Yep.

01:38:13.220 That's true.

01:38:14.440 Please address the vigil.

01:38:16.000 Please, Mike Davis.

01:38:16.880 Okay.

01:38:17.320 Notice me, senpai.

01:38:18.640 Okay.

01:38:19.000 Yeah, we're not going to pull that super chat up.

01:38:23.160 Wait, the...

01:38:23.620 Huh?

01:38:24.800 Huh?

01:38:25.320 Huh?

01:38:26.120 Huh?

01:38:26.780 Huh?

01:38:28.140 Hmm?

01:38:28.660 All right.

01:38:28.960 Next question.

01:38:29.760 Guys, we've got a video to react to.

01:38:32.700 Chase is going to love this one.

01:38:33.940 Let's go.

01:38:34.900 I think, maybe.

01:38:35.700 I don't know why I even said that, but okay.

01:38:38.580 So, Eric, can you pull up the first video really?

01:38:46.540 Hey, bestie.

01:38:49.040 You're wrong.

01:38:51.160 I think it's time for another adult pre-K lesson.

01:38:53.520 What do you think?

01:38:54.880 All right.

01:38:55.880 Turn your listening ears on.

01:38:57.240 You'll catch a bubble in your mouth.

01:39:00.540 Good job.

01:39:02.420 Okay.

01:39:02.940 Here's the thing.

01:39:04.420 Having a preference is something like, I'm looking for a partner who likes kayaking or

01:39:10.340 wakes up early in the morning or loves pizza.

01:39:16.660 But when your preferences exclude an entire group of marginalized people, that's problematic.

01:39:22.380 Okay?

01:39:22.680 That's not nice.

01:39:23.440 That's not a preference.

01:39:24.980 If you lump all fat people in one group together as though they are not very different individuals,

01:39:31.480 that's fatphobic. 0.99

01:39:32.420 Just like lumping all black people in one group and saying, I don't like black people 0.99

01:39:36.000 is racist. 0.98

01:39:37.000 And lumping all disabled people in one group and saying, I don't think people in wheelchairs

01:39:41.060 are hot is ableist.

01:39:42.920 Do you understand what I'm saying? 1.00

01:39:44.300 That's bullshit. 1.00

01:39:47.680 That's bullshit. 1.00

01:39:49.000 That's bullshit. 1.00

01:39:51.100 That's so different than hating a group, a racist group. 1.00

01:39:53.940 That's just preference. 0.98

01:39:55.080 That's just the fact that men don't want fat women. 1.00

01:39:59.280 I mean... 0.70

01:40:00.880 Let's have the girls answer. 1.00

01:40:02.900 Do you guys think it's fatphobic?

01:40:05.080 Like, do you think it's fatphobic to have preferences about whether or not you want to date a fat

01:40:10.740 person? 0.96

01:40:11.400 That's so mean to say, like, guys just don't want fat women. 1.00

01:40:14.940 That's the truth. 0.99

01:40:15.800 I mean, maybe, like, fat men want fat women. 1.00

01:40:17.940 Generally speaking, very few of us want fat women. 1.00

01:40:20.380 What women want fat men? 1.00

01:40:22.120 I mean, it's like... 0.63

01:40:22.860 I don't know.

01:40:24.080 Let's say you had the option, Lauren, between a super jacked Chad and an ultra fat dude. 0.82

01:40:30.300 Which one are you picking?

01:40:31.140 Well, it's, like, it's personal preference.

01:40:33.420 Exactly.

01:40:35.040 Do you think it's mean that guys have personal preferences, too?

01:40:39.360 But I feel like you're just saying that about all men in general.

01:40:42.820 Saying what?

01:40:43.520 Like, all men don't want... 0.99

01:40:45.420 No, no.

01:40:45.900 I mean, I think that some men like that, probably.

01:40:48.580 I'm sure those people out there, but, like, for the most part, we're not looking for that.

01:40:52.980 Like, especially a guy who puts an effort in himself.

01:40:55.940 I'm going to have no opinion on this.

01:40:57.600 What do you guys think about what she said?

01:40:59.280 What do you guys think?

01:40:59.940 I have a pretty controversial opinion, I guess.

01:41:03.000 I love controversy.

01:41:04.020 Let's hear it.

01:41:04.400 It's not anything, like, original.

01:41:05.460 You know, a lot of, like, other podcasters say it.

01:41:08.540 But, like, that body positivity is a harmful public service announcement.

01:41:18.320 If it's discouraging prioritizing your health.

01:41:23.580 So, basically, like, encouraging people to think, like, fat is beautiful, fat is, like, incredibly unhealthy, leads to the number one causes of death in America.

01:41:32.980 And, yeah, it's a terrible thing.

01:41:34.320 We should not be encouraging in any capacity. 0.93

01:41:37.100 You are so fatphobic. 0.93

01:41:38.220 There you go.

01:41:41.280 I mean, yeah.

01:41:44.140 I don't know.

01:41:44.780 I'm, I'm, because I'm, like, health, I'm, like, pro-health.

01:41:48.200 I think health is, if it's not your priority, if it's not your number one priority, maybe reconsider that.

01:41:53.020 Maybe, like, consider making it your number one priority.

01:41:54.940 And, yeah, I don't think, as a culture, we should be, like, I'm not saying, like, bully people for their weight.

01:42:02.580 But don't, but maybe don't have a culture that's shaming, like, discouraging people from prioritizing their health and taking care of their bodies.

01:42:11.520 I totally agree, yeah.

01:42:12.840 So, I think there's a balance there.

01:42:14.380 Because I do have friends that are larger.

01:42:17.300 And it's, it is genetics.

01:42:19.820 No matter what they, no, listen.

01:42:21.900 They, they do the diets.

01:42:23.140 They do the stuff.

01:42:23.640 They lose a lot of the weight.

01:42:26.180 But there's some weight that's very difficult for them to lose, even though they're continuously working on it, right?

01:42:32.180 It's, it's a continuous effort to work on yourself.

01:42:35.540 So, I don't think that we should marginalize people.

01:42:40.920 But I also think that everybody has their own preferences on what they're attracted to.

01:42:45.340 If you're looking for a partner.

01:42:46.840 And also, some skinny people, like, aren't the most healthy, too.

01:42:50.000 Yeah, there are people who are anorexic.

01:42:51.940 Why in the U.S., though, the U.S. has the fattest people? 0.99

01:42:55.180 You know, like, this can't just be, I do believe that genetics play a role.

01:42:59.020 That's for sure.

01:42:59.760 That's true.

01:43:00.860 But why in the U.S. is it that it's just okay here?

01:43:04.460 It's just.

01:43:04.920 Are we continuing the body positivity concept?

01:43:08.420 Because I think that there is a certain aspect to that culture where it is overdone.

01:43:12.980 And we are encouraging people to be unhealthy.

01:43:15.100 But I'm, my understanding with the question was the intent and preferences in your partners.

01:43:22.140 So, is that the discussion?

01:43:23.980 Or is the discussion the body positivity?

01:43:25.880 Which would you prefer?

01:43:27.280 Would you prefer a man who's in shape or a man who's fat?

01:43:30.900 I prefer a man who's actively taking care of himself.

01:43:34.080 Whatever that looks like, as long as they're doing the work.

01:43:36.360 Okay, both men are attempting to actively take care of themselves.

01:43:38.900 Both of their personalities, incomes, level of commitment to you are almost equivalent.

01:43:44.560 Would you prefer the man who's in shape or the man who's fat?

01:43:47.520 It depends on who I'm more attracted to physically.

01:43:49.500 Your attraction is almost identical to both of them with everything other than the level of fitness that they have.

01:43:56.520 Then it comes down to their personality.

01:43:58.500 Personalities are equivalent. 0.98

01:43:59.520 Would you prefer an in-shape man, shredded six-pack, dude looks like Brad Pitt in Fight Club.

01:44:05.900 Okay.

01:44:06.520 Or would you prefer a morbidly obese dude?

01:44:10.240 So, those are two polar opposites.

01:44:12.440 So, if someone is morbidly obese, they're not working on themselves.

01:44:16.600 He literally can't even walk.

01:44:18.160 Then that's someone who's not taking care of himself.

01:44:20.320 Yeah, that's someone who's about to be on like my 500 pounds.

01:44:21.920 That's not even valid in the conversation. 0.89

01:44:24.040 I know, it's a ridiculous question.

01:44:25.000 I mean, yeah, I just, I think almost everybody would choose a person who's in shape. 0.92

01:44:30.500 I think people have that preference.

01:44:31.820 I don't think it's fat phobic.

01:44:32.140 I think if you don't have that preference, you're like severely confused.

01:44:38.040 I don't know.

01:44:38.520 If you're, yeah, if you're not prioritizing your partner, they take care of their health and they prioritize their health.

01:44:44.780 You need to look for different quality people.

01:44:48.140 So, wait, what was your kind of quarrel with what, I think, Michael, right?

01:44:53.400 Yeah.

01:44:53.700 What Michael was saying?

01:44:55.080 Wait, what was that?

01:44:56.040 What were you saying before?

01:44:57.620 You were saying that it's fat phobic?

01:45:00.820 What were you saying?

01:45:01.480 Oh, I didn't say anything about fat phobia, I think.

01:45:03.820 You're saying it's wrong that guys don't want to date fat women.

01:45:07.200 Okay, are you imitating me? 0.60

01:45:08.760 Okay.

01:45:09.060 Yes, I am.

01:45:09.740 Sorry, just because I stepped away for a second.

01:45:12.780 So, what was it that you said?

01:45:14.780 I don't know.

01:45:15.600 I honestly don't.

01:45:16.720 She just said it was mean.

01:45:17.960 That was all she said.

01:45:18.840 Mean that guys prefer.

01:45:19.580 What's mean?

01:45:19.960 What is mean?

01:45:20.540 Mean guys prefer women who are in shape over women who are in shape. 0.86

01:45:23.100 What is mean?

01:45:24.360 I would just say that it shouldn't all be about, like, okay.

01:45:28.780 Looks?

01:45:30.080 No, not about that.

01:45:31.140 I mean, I feel like everything should factor equally.

01:45:34.860 Didn't you say earlier in the conversation you like guys that are jacked?

01:45:38.400 No, I never said that.

01:45:39.460 You didn't say that?

01:45:40.040 Oh, no, you just said, like, tall, dark, handsome, that kind of stuff.

01:45:42.520 I never said that.

01:45:43.500 Okay, you asked me what my type was.

01:45:45.640 Yeah, you said it was mostly physical for you.

01:45:48.140 Okay.

01:45:48.360 Not even personality.

01:45:49.860 But what if physical for me meant, like, he doesn't have to be shredded.

01:45:54.000 I never said that my type was the guy who's shredded.

01:45:56.460 You're right.

01:45:57.080 I got that wrong.

01:45:57.880 I never said that.

01:45:58.440 So, what do you look for? 0.93

01:46:00.620 She likes fat dudes. 0.98

01:46:02.140 Fat? 0.99

01:46:03.540 But, okay, what is your issue?

01:46:05.540 I guess, okay, we watched the video.

01:46:06.780 Do you think it's mean if girls, like... 0.99

01:46:08.240 Honestly, I like someone who is, like, into self-care. 0.99

01:46:11.480 Someone who just gives a shit about... 0.99

01:46:12.800 But, okay, so... 1.00

01:46:13.360 Like-minded.

01:46:13.980 The video is a morbidly obese woman complaining that... 1.00

01:46:18.900 I'm not saying...

01:46:19.560 Okay, morbidly obese.

01:46:20.320 Hold on, let me finish.

01:46:21.000 Let me finish.

01:46:21.740 Yeah, let me finish.

01:46:22.240 The video is a woman who's morbidly obese, who's trying to paint the narrative that it's 1.00

01:46:27.380 somehow discriminatory or, like, fat-phobic or just some sort of, like, marginalization

01:46:33.360 that men don't want to date fat, obese women. 0.70

01:46:39.400 So, do you have an issue with men that don't want to date fat, obese women? 0.79

01:46:46.220 Do you think that's wrong of men to have that preference that they'd prefer to date women

01:46:50.440 who are not fat?

01:46:52.240 I don't know.

01:46:54.900 I guess everyone can have their preferences.

01:46:57.380 Okay, fair.

01:46:58.200 But...

01:46:58.600 Yeah, I will say that.

01:46:59.440 But...

01:47:00.480 I feel like there's a but.

01:47:01.680 No, just say everyone can have their preferences.

01:47:03.420 Everyone has their preferences.

01:47:04.200 Okay, but do you think that that is an unjustified preference that men have?

01:47:08.380 I just think you shouldn't base everything on that.

01:47:10.740 On what?

01:47:11.420 On, like, okay, you look at someone, they're, like, I guess... 0.59

01:47:13.760 Morbidly obese.

01:47:14.580 Okay. 1.00

01:47:17.240 I mean, her personality is dog shit, too. 1.00

01:47:19.720 Yeah. 1.00

01:47:20.140 Okay, in that case...

01:47:22.220 Okay.

01:47:23.080 In that case, I would say, yeah.

01:47:25.720 No. 1.00

01:47:26.400 I wouldn't want to go for someone who's morbidly obese and has a dog shit personality. 1.00

01:47:31.600 But, you know, if they're morbidly... 1.00

01:47:34.720 I mean, okay, I'm not talking about morbidly obese.

01:47:37.680 I'm saying someone, okay, maybe they have, like, a couple extra pounds.

01:47:40.540 You treat me like a queen.

01:47:41.660 Like, I really like them.

01:47:43.360 They have a great personality.

01:47:45.600 We get along.

01:47:46.640 I'm not going to hold those extra pounds against them.

01:47:49.920 But, okay, but she's morbidly obese. 1.00

01:47:52.440 I think she's talking about, like, women who you would...

01:47:55.980 If a woman has a little bit of a little belly, like a little couple extra pounds, like you said, I don't... 1.00

01:48:02.540 Most guys, that's probably fine.

01:48:04.160 In fact, most men, like... 0.58

01:48:05.240 Yeah, that's what I'm referring to.

01:48:06.540 ...like thick women. 1.00

01:48:07.720 She never said, like, morbidly obese from the jump.

01:48:10.160 Yeah, but she's morbidly obese and she's complaining about... 1.00

01:48:13.480 I don't remember the exact words, but...

01:48:16.920 I got a good question for you.

01:48:17.960 I don't want someone who's unhealthy.

01:48:19.720 Right.

01:48:20.280 Like, morbidly obese.

01:48:21.820 Right.

01:48:22.360 I got a good question.

01:48:23.600 So, earlier when you were describing your type, you said...

01:48:26.120 Was it...

01:48:26.580 You like tall guys?

01:48:27.880 I don't think I ever even said tall.

01:48:29.620 Okay, so no tall, but you like dark features.

01:48:33.220 Okay, yeah.

01:48:33.960 What else did you say?

01:48:35.620 Um, I think I just said, like, brown eyes and brown hair.

01:48:38.900 Okay, brown eyes and brown hair.

01:48:41.040 What would you say if a guy made a video and he was like, I think it's so wrong that women 1.00

01:48:47.800 have preferences only for guys with brown eyes and brown hair.

01:48:51.300 I think that's discriminatory.

01:48:53.100 I think you're marginalizing guys with blonde hair and blue eyes, and I think it's wrong

01:48:57.020 that there are girls out there like you.

01:48:58.380 What would you say to a guy like that?

01:48:59.420 Okay, well, you know, when you asked me that, I wasn't saying, oh, that's only, like, exclusively

01:49:03.680 I'd only go for guys with, like, brown hair and brown eyes.

01:49:06.380 I was just saying, it was something I, it was, like, a type of mine, but at the end

01:49:11.000 of the day, I think it comes more down to, like, who you get along with.

01:49:15.340 You can't really control who you like.

01:49:16.860 But do you think that men should care less about a woman's weight?

01:49:21.180 I think that's the crux of...

01:49:24.680 Do you like short guys?

01:49:26.700 I mean, I'm short, so...

01:49:30.340 Like, let's say a guy was five foot, would you date him?

01:49:34.020 I'd prefer not to, but let's say he really treats me well, and we really get along, and

01:49:39.380 I really like him.

01:49:41.300 You would date him?

01:49:42.600 Yeah.

01:49:43.240 Okay.

01:49:43.560 I would, so...

01:49:45.880 And, you know, on that note, I actually want to make, I want to make a point, though, to

01:49:50.440 guys that are short, that that is zero, there's zero reason to give up if you're a short man.

01:49:55.560 They're short kings.

01:49:56.980 Yeah, I mean, that...

01:49:57.820 Persevere.

01:49:58.300 No reason to give up.

01:49:59.180 There's no reason to give up.

01:50:00.100 Short kings rise up.

01:50:01.720 That's right.

01:50:02.640 And MGTOW, men going their own way, that's some BS, man.

01:50:05.640 You gotta learn how to get past that, and work on yourself, and still become a man.

01:50:11.020 Just because girls say that right now, like, you can still prove yourself. 0.91

01:50:14.120 You can still become a high-value man if you're short, like, you work on yourself.

01:50:18.100 Short kings.

01:50:18.900 Yeah.

01:50:19.100 So, build yourselves in the gym.

01:50:21.660 Build your sense of humor.

01:50:22.960 Build your sense of confidence.

01:50:24.800 Build your social status.

01:50:26.080 Build your career.

01:50:26.900 Build all these things.

01:50:28.140 Get that charisma, that fire of confidence inside of you.

01:50:31.440 You guys can pull most women that you want. 1.00

01:50:33.800 Women say that they prefer tall guys. 0.94

01:50:35.620 You get an ultra-charismatic short king around, they'll flock to him.

01:50:39.000 I've seen it happen.

01:50:39.660 I like a guy who can make me laugh.

01:50:41.940 And then still get curved by the girl who wants a guy who's 6'3". 0.92

01:50:46.260 Okay, so...

01:50:47.660 But, yeah, no, I mean, obviously, improve yourself.

01:50:52.660 But, yes, men who are shorter do definitely face an added challenge when it comes to dating.

01:51:00.480 So, okay, did anyone else want to come in on the reaction to the video?

01:51:05.600 Do you want to give your take?

01:51:07.120 Like, I don't think you spoke on it yet.

01:51:09.140 No, I really agree with Lauren pretty much.

01:51:12.400 But, oh, yeah, I think that, like, body positivity is more popularized these days, I guess.

01:51:21.800 Yeah, but I'm personally attracted to physical looks first.

01:51:26.800 But, yeah, I don't know what to say.

01:51:30.400 I really liked your take, Tara.

01:51:32.520 I thought you had a very good take on it.

01:51:34.640 Thank you.

01:51:35.060 It's kind of funny, though, like, how women can reject men for damn near nothing but can get completely butthurt and have to mega cope when they get rejected by men.

01:51:49.000 So, they have to make TikTok videos talking about how all men need to change. 0.64

01:51:53.300 It's just...

01:51:53.760 I think women get off to rejecting men. 0.98

01:51:55.900 I just saw a video on that.

01:51:57.040 I think every time a man comes to you and you reject him, there's a little dopamine hit and you love it.

01:52:02.640 I can validate that.

01:52:04.080 Really?

01:52:04.500 I can validate that, yeah.

01:52:05.880 I don't think that's true.

01:52:08.160 That's not been, like, I don't know.

01:52:10.340 I don't know.

01:52:11.600 You feel really terrible.

01:52:13.460 I don't know.

01:52:13.800 Me and, like, other people I know.

01:52:15.720 Say it again.

01:52:16.380 So, I believe that women, many women, they get off to it a little bit.

01:52:21.680 They like when men approach them.

01:52:23.760 And they just say no and they just look away and just blow them off.

01:52:28.240 You think they like the...

01:52:30.500 I think they like...

01:52:31.100 I think they get a hit of dope.

01:52:32.480 It's validation.

01:52:33.540 It's attention.

01:52:34.100 And possibly also a feeling of power.

01:52:36.460 Like, I just reject...

01:52:37.200 Absolutely.

01:52:37.600 It's a total power trip.

01:52:38.640 Absolutely.

01:52:39.240 It's a complete power trip.

01:52:40.400 I don't think that's always the case.

01:52:42.320 It's probably case by case basis.

01:52:43.980 Yeah.

01:52:44.380 But I wouldn't even say that's, like, majority of the case.

01:52:47.180 I think most times it's, like, girls feel really bad.

01:52:49.180 They're like, what do I say to him?

01:52:50.140 I don't want to hurt his feelings.

01:52:51.280 But I'm just, like, not into it.

01:52:53.400 Like, I feel like most of the times girls, like, keep seeing guys that they don't like

01:52:57.620 because they're...

01:52:58.560 They, like, don't hurt their feelings.

01:53:01.180 At least that's my experience.

01:53:02.560 But, yeah.

01:53:03.020 What do you think?

01:53:03.940 It goes...

01:53:04.400 I think that it goes both ways.

01:53:06.100 It depends on the females. 1.00

01:53:07.300 But I can validate that there are females out there that totally... 1.00

01:53:11.700 Like, they go out to the clubs just so they can take it out.

01:53:14.180 Yeah.

01:53:14.640 What do you think, Liv?

01:53:17.040 I think for me, it's a case by case.

01:53:19.440 Like, if a guy walks up to me with, like, a fat ego and it feels nice to reject him a little bit

01:53:25.780 because, you know, take it down.

01:53:28.240 But if he's a super nice guy and he genuinely wants to take me out and I'm just, like, not feeling it,

01:53:33.460 I'll be, like, I'm sorry.

01:53:35.120 Like, no.

01:53:36.960 But I really haven't, like...

01:53:38.680 I feel like I really haven't rejected anybody in person either.

01:53:41.160 I've only, like, rejected over...

01:53:43.320 DMs and stuff.

01:53:44.380 Yeah, like, DMs, texts because they come in, like, really rude about it.

01:53:47.840 That's when the ego comes in and it's, like, no.

01:53:51.380 How often do guys hit on you in person these days?

01:53:54.300 Ooh, that's a good question.

01:53:55.840 Never.

01:53:56.680 Never.

01:53:57.140 Never.

01:53:57.380 I've been told I'm very intimidating and so I don't get approached very much.

01:54:01.540 Do you wish guys came up to you more?

01:54:03.640 Yeah.

01:54:04.220 Yeah?

01:54:04.580 I mean, it'd provide more opportunity.

01:54:05.840 I just said I'm only free on Tuesdays.

01:54:07.460 So if you see me at the grocery store, you know.

01:54:10.760 What about you guys?

01:54:11.300 Wait, you're only free on Tuesdays?

01:54:12.800 Yes.

01:54:13.380 So if a guy, like, let's say you've been dating a guy for three months.

01:54:16.240 Yeah.

01:54:16.380 Still only free Tuesdays?

01:54:18.500 I mean, if my daughter goes on a sleepover or hangs out with her friends,

01:54:22.440 it goes to her friend's house, then sure.

01:54:24.940 But I have my daughter 24-7.

01:54:27.580 We will get to your question, by the way.

01:54:29.280 Wait, so then, I mean, don't you think that this is just another,

01:54:33.780 like, if a guy had a choice between dating a woman who's only free on Tuesdays

01:54:37.400 versus dating a woman whose schedule's pretty wide open,

01:54:41.860 that's another detractor.

01:54:43.280 I have less of a chance.

01:54:44.820 Absolutely.

01:54:45.580 But you just asked if I wish that guys would approach me more.

01:54:48.600 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:54:48.840 So they don't know that.

01:54:49.800 They don't know I'm only free on Tuesdays and they just see me around.

01:54:53.220 Sure.

01:54:54.240 Okay.

01:54:54.640 The rest of the girls, you want to answer his question? 1.00

01:54:59.520 This guy and his fucking scooter, man. 1.00

01:55:01.540 His fucking scooter guys, man. 1.00

01:55:03.340 I guess in terms of rejection, we often, going back to the club scene, 1.00

01:55:10.400 a guy will buy us a drink and, you know, ladies tend to use men for, you know, a drink. 1.00

01:55:16.440 I think we might run away.

01:55:18.920 I guess that's a form of rejection.

01:55:22.280 But, yeah, I don't know if that has to do with ego or, like, oh, he thinks we're cute.

01:55:27.040 Let's get a drink from him and then, like, F him.

01:55:29.580 Let's run away really quick because he's not our type.

01:55:31.900 He's, you know, whatever.

01:55:33.660 I wonder, just on that drink thing really quick, and I don't know if this is really a thing.

01:55:38.080 Maybe I'm reaching here.

01:55:39.440 But do you think that, Chase, maybe one of the reasons that men might, one of the other reasons why men might have an issue with a woman going to a club is that men are going to be buying them drinks.

01:55:49.740 And that's almost fulfilling the provider role in a way, and it's, like, maybe I'm, like, kind of grasping here, but.

01:55:57.100 I think you're projecting a little bit with the provider thing.

01:56:00.740 Unless a guy is, like, balling out ordering them really expensive liquor in an effort to show off.

01:56:06.660 Then a woman might be, like, ooh, this guy has money. 1.00

01:56:09.200 I would consider it, like, crossing the line of cheating.

01:56:12.260 I think, like, it's not just, I don't think it's necessarily, I don't think it's cheating if a girl goes out to a bar.

01:56:16.500 But I do think if she accepts a drink from a guy, it's, like, kind of crossing the boundary of cheating.

01:56:22.660 Yeah.

01:56:22.880 So, I mean, some guys like it, though.

01:56:25.620 That's a good point.

01:56:26.420 You're inviting the attention.

01:56:28.340 I mean, yeah, that literally says, I mean, I consider that, like, I'm accepting your, like, bid.

01:56:36.540 I don't know.

01:56:37.060 Anyways, you guys answer his question.

01:56:39.980 Can I just say one thing, too?

01:56:41.320 Sure.

01:56:41.520 This might be very controversial.

01:56:43.720 Be controversial.

01:56:44.720 If a girl is hitting on the guy that I, if a girl, if a girl is hitting on a guy that I'm dating, like, honestly, I don't care because I see it as a compliment.

01:56:54.200 I'm dating a guy that's attractive.

01:56:55.560 Girls don't hit on men. 1.00

01:56:58.120 Generally speaking.

01:56:59.540 But I'm actually speaking from experience, so, yeah, that might just be me, but.

01:57:06.100 You know, I think a lot of women probably feel the same way because women, women want guys that other women want.

01:57:11.900 Yes, it validates.

01:57:13.280 Exactly.

01:57:13.580 It's like, I really don't care.

01:57:14.640 Like, a million girls come up.

01:57:16.320 Like, and also, I think I have a lot of trust in my partners.

01:57:20.500 I'll say this real quick on that.

01:57:22.260 This is a really important point, especially for the dudes out there that are trying to figure out, you know, what's going on in the dating world.

01:57:27.220 So, if a girl is with a guy and she sees a lot of women want him, that's going to make him very attractive to her.

01:57:34.940 Exactly.

01:57:35.400 That's why when guys go out with their girl or with another girl, automatically, they're going to get way more female attention.

01:57:43.700 Way more female attention because it's a pre-approval thing. 1.00

01:57:46.820 It's pre-approval.

01:57:47.120 So, guys are not the same way.

01:57:49.980 Have you guys ever known a guy and, like, maybe he hit on you and, like, you weren't really that into him and then he got a girlfriend and she was attractive and it changed kind of the way that you looked at him?

01:58:00.020 Has that ever happened?

01:58:01.040 Mm-hmm.

01:58:01.680 No?

01:58:02.080 Oh, yeah.

01:58:02.720 All the time.

01:58:03.460 That's what happened to my lucky ex-boyfriend.

01:58:05.960 I am like, there's something called, like, the Pete Davidson effect.

01:58:10.860 I don't know.

01:58:11.220 That's what I call it.

01:58:12.120 But, like, if a beautiful, stunning girl is dating a mid-guy, you know, like, nothing, like, amazing, he is the hottest thing that's ever happened in this town. 0.99

01:58:26.160 Men listen to this.

01:58:27.620 I kind of do agree with that.

01:58:28.960 Women need their female counterparts to co-sign. 1.00

01:58:33.960 They do.

01:58:34.020 Yeah, 1,000%.

01:58:34.900 Like, men, we don't need to go to our guy friends and be like, oh, do you think, what do you think about her? 0.80

01:58:39.620 Like, no, we don't need that, but, like, women will ask their fucking girlfriends or if it's just already, you know, there's a situation like you guys described where the guy's getting hit on, then.

01:58:52.060 Speaking of which, tip for all the dudes out there that want to become better with women, if you start talking to a girl and she introduces you to her friend group, if you can charm her friend group and make them like you, it will make you so much more attractive and likable to her. 0.94

01:59:05.520 How do you feel if you're dating a girl and then all of a sudden all your homies, like, think she's really attractive?

01:59:11.580 How do you feel about it? 1.00

01:59:13.060 I mean, I want to be like, yo, like, I know she's hot, but back the fuck off. 1.00

01:59:17.080 That'd be weird if a dude, like, a guy friend was, like, saying that. 0.98

01:59:24.100 I mean, I, I mean, if he's, well, is he complimenting?

01:59:26.600 Not saying it in that way, but, like, if your friends think your girlfriend's pretty.

01:59:30.440 There's a bro code.

01:59:31.680 There's a bro code, right?

01:59:32.980 And, like, let's say I start dating a girl and he's, like, talking to me about how hot she is and stuff.

01:59:39.020 Like, there's a point where it's like, okay, yeah, like, thanks, bro, I know.

01:59:42.780 Like, and he's going to be like, yo, like, great job, dude.

01:59:44.860 Exactly. 0.99

01:59:45.520 But if he fixates on it, it's like, yo, the fuck's going on with you, dude? 0.99

01:59:48.880 You know, like, what's, what's this obsession you have? 0.99

01:59:51.960 When I was in college, there was this, this girl that came around my friend group of guys and we all thought she was super hot. 1.00

01:59:58.420 But one of my buddies started dating her and all of the rest of us, like, backed the fuck off.

02:00:02.780 That's what guys are supposed to do, you know? 0.80

02:00:05.980 Huge cause for concern.

02:00:07.740 Whereas most girls, it's like, you want to show them off, right? 1.00

02:00:10.700 You want to be like, hey, like, look at, this is my guy.

02:00:12.640 Like, if you, if you get with that high value man, you're showing him off.

02:00:16.760 You want your girls to be.

02:00:17.780 Like, anyone, if you're dating them, you probably would think they're high value.

02:00:21.540 I'm going to do some super chats here.

02:00:22.860 We got Mr. Mike Davis with the $10 soup chat.

02:00:25.800 The only two people that belonged in astrology are non-religious women, desperate for an identity and culture, usually white. 1.00

02:00:31.740 Oh, wait, we already did this one.

02:00:32.800 My bad.

02:00:33.320 Okay.

02:00:33.980 Elder Scrolls with the $10 soup chat.

02:00:36.000 She's a 10, but she still eats seed oils.

02:00:39.280 Yes, dude.

02:00:40.080 Elder Scrolls based, bro.

02:00:42.240 Seed oils are one of the biggest, biggest problems in the Western world right now.

02:00:46.020 It's actually why so many people in America are obese.

02:00:48.760 If you guys, can I bring up this point as a tangent for seed oils?

02:00:54.540 It's related to dating.

02:00:55.620 What's up?

02:00:56.320 So, if you know, if you know what's up with seed oils, you probably know what's up with, like, women's hormonal birth control.

02:01:03.840 You know, you got to cut that out, too.

02:01:05.340 So, one of my beefs with feminism is that telling young girls that hookup culture is good for them and empowering to them makes them just more dependent on birth control. 1.00

02:01:16.640 And, yeah.

02:01:19.200 And to add on top of that, birth control affects women's fertility long term. 0.99

02:01:23.580 Yeah, yeah.

02:01:24.200 There's a lot of women. 1.00

02:01:24.720 I mean, there's a million reasons to, like, not be on it.

02:01:26.180 I mean, there's reasons to be on it.

02:01:27.220 I don't want to, like, go crazy on birth control, but that's just related.

02:01:30.300 Like, that's just a beef with feminism. 1.00

02:01:31.520 It makes you more dependent on taking a pill every day of your life since you're 16.

02:01:35.220 That's crazy.

02:01:36.380 And it causes nutrient deficiencies.

02:01:38.840 That affects your hormones and a million other things.

02:01:39.480 Affects their fertility long term. 0.98

02:01:41.520 You know what the fucked up part about it is? 0.98

02:01:42.880 Nobody, when they're young, gets taught about the fertility method of not getting pregnant. 0.98

02:01:47.740 Yeah.

02:01:48.020 You know what girls don't know? 1.00

02:01:49.300 Only five days.

02:01:51.160 Let me know if any of you guys knew this, but there's only five days of your menstrual cycle where you can actually conceive.

02:01:55.940 The other 25 days, there's no chance of you getting pregnant. 0.85

02:01:58.060 Oh, yeah.

02:01:58.300 You cannot get pregnant. 1.00

02:01:59.120 You knew that.

02:01:59.420 Did you guys know that?

02:02:00.000 Yeah, I knew that.

02:02:00.620 I hadn't heard that until, like, last year.

02:02:02.460 Yeah, it's your, like, it's your, um. 0.95

02:02:04.420 Which made me feel so dumb.

02:02:05.980 That's why when women get older, they literally tell their husband or whoever they're with, we have to do it tonight at this time because that's when I'm, like, the most fertile. 0.90

02:02:15.580 That's literally a thing.

02:02:16.840 It's three days before and after ovulation or something, right?

02:02:19.840 It's the five days up to and including the day of ovulation.

02:02:23.140 Okay.

02:02:25.680 Yeah.

02:02:26.120 Tara Peterson giving a lecture again.

02:02:28.140 Okay.

02:02:28.420 Yeah, it's based, though.

02:02:29.460 Women need to know that. 1.00

02:02:30.980 Yo, but what about the copper IUD?

02:02:33.320 Copper IUD, that's non-hormonal.

02:02:35.720 It's still a foreign object.

02:02:37.040 There's so many complications.

02:02:38.640 Yeah, I don't want a piece of metal in my body for once.

02:02:40.400 It's a foreign object. 0.96

02:02:40.580 I can have, like, more meaningful sex.

02:02:43.260 My mom is a nurse, and she was a Dell room nurse for a while, like, delivery room, and she actually delivered a baby two years ago to teen parents that came out holding the IUD.

02:02:59.800 Like, literally was born with the IUD and it's hand.

02:03:02.500 You can still get pregnant. 1.00

02:03:03.120 What?

02:03:03.740 Yes.

02:03:04.040 Yeah. 1.00

02:03:04.180 It was a big fuck you to the mom and dad, but, like, you know, it's just you have to. 1.00

02:03:09.040 That's crazy. 1.00

02:03:09.560 Good times.

02:03:11.260 Okay.

02:03:11.940 The more you know.

02:03:13.320 Dave Von Jackson with the $10 Super Chat.

02:03:15.580 Being obese shows a lack of discipline, so you tend to question other habits they may have.

02:03:19.740 Very good point.

02:03:21.100 The people the one lady was referring to that put in effort and don't see results are a small minority.

02:03:27.420 Yeah, that's a really good point because, I mean, if someone's overweight, someone's fat, someone's obese, that points to, I think, a character defect or a character flaw.

02:03:38.520 They're not, you know, taking care of their health, what other bad habits do they have, you know?

02:03:45.500 So, Mike Davis with the $10 Super Chat. 0.90

02:03:49.220 If Blondie thinks men are being hard on the fatties, I'll give her a lifetime free pass to double whoppers so she can be a real ally and support her fat-ass sisters in their struggle. 1.00

02:03:58.480 Mike Davis is the GOAT. 0.96

02:04:00.140 I just eat what I want to eat.

02:04:03.660 By the way, he owns, like, I think he's actually just recently, he's acquired a couple other chains of Burger King.

02:04:10.440 He said he didn't own Burger King's.

02:04:12.220 He owned other things.

02:04:13.180 No, he trusts, he's definitely owned some Burger King's.

02:04:16.700 Oh, okay.

02:04:17.540 He for sure owns Burger King's.

02:04:18.700 Some people are super skinny and they're not healthy either, so.

02:04:22.940 Yeah.

02:04:24.080 He used to be in the Subway business, but, you know, after the Jared thing.

02:04:27.420 They just want me to eat a bunch of burgers so I can give him money.

02:04:30.580 Did you talk last time you were on about how birth control affects women's interest in men?

02:04:35.780 I didn't talk about that.

02:04:37.480 I went, like, really into specifics about how different, like, differences on the menstrual, like, where you are, like, in the menstrual cycle will affect men.

02:04:47.220 And the types of men women are. 1.00

02:04:48.100 But, yeah, but that was for women not on birth control.

02:04:51.000 Right.

02:04:51.360 I don't know what it's like for.

02:04:52.340 Were you saying that when women are closer to ovulation, they perform more, like, alpha male, Chadley traits?

02:04:58.080 Yeah.

02:04:58.340 Yeah.

02:04:58.900 They prioritize physical attractiveness over.

02:05:01.240 Have you seen the literature on birth control and female attraction and how it changes it?

02:05:06.060 Yeah, I've seen some of it.

02:05:07.100 Some of it, yeah. 1.00

02:05:07.740 It's pretty crazy shit. 1.00

02:05:09.220 What is it? 1.00

02:05:09.920 So are the women more masculine? 0.98

02:05:11.120 Dude, so women, on average, on birth control, prefer men with more, quote-unquote, like, beta features and more, like, feminine features.

02:05:21.180 And women off birth control prefer men with more masculine features.

02:05:24.740 Interesting.

02:05:25.220 I have to say this is really interesting as a person who's been on birth control since high school.

02:05:30.440 Do you agree or disagree?

02:05:31.520 I think it's situational.

02:05:33.120 Okay.

02:05:33.540 But, you know, I can say that I definitely don't prefer a more feminine male.

02:05:38.520 Well, I can say that it does affect, you know, my hormones and my overall functionality of my body.

02:05:44.740 Does it affect pheromones?

02:05:46.220 The pheromones?

02:05:46.900 Big time.

02:05:47.400 It affects it big time.

02:05:48.620 Really?

02:05:49.020 Oh, yeah.

02:05:49.600 Yeah.

02:05:49.980 They did another study.

02:05:51.080 Women who were on birth control.

02:05:53.480 So through pheromones, people can detect the immune system of, like, a partner and whether or not their immune system is compatible with the other person's immune system.

02:06:03.220 Women off birth control are better able to detect a man who has a complementary immune system to their own.

02:06:10.680 Women who are on birth control have a much harder time detecting pheromoneally a man's immune system and whether or not it's complementary.

02:06:18.760 That's interesting.

02:06:19.120 It, like, totally scrambles the wires.

02:06:20.560 They can't smell which men are complementary to them.

02:06:24.020 Maybe that's my problem.

02:06:25.780 Could be.

02:06:26.200 Let me get back to the Super Chats here.

02:06:28.620 Davon Jackson with the $10 Super Chat.

02:06:30.240 I have no sympathy for women who are disqualified for the decisions they make, weight, going out, single moms, et cetera, who disqualify men for how they were born. 0.70

02:06:40.560 Okay, so are you talking, Davon, are you talking about, like, height?

02:06:44.600 That's what I suspect.

02:06:45.560 I have no sympathy for women who are disqualified for the decisions they make, weight, going out, single moms, et cetera, who disqualify men for how they were born. 0.70

02:06:52.560 That's probably, I mean, that could be height, that could be peen size, that could be if they're balding.

02:06:58.460 You know, men have a male pattern baldness. 0.97

02:07:02.240 You know, some guys get it even starting in high school.

02:07:06.260 So, Davon, thank you for the $10 Super Chat.

02:07:08.840 Green Lantern with the nine British pounds, I believe.

02:07:12.780 Would you date a bi man?

02:07:13.800 For the guys, would you date a bi girl? 0.98

02:07:16.480 We'll go around the table really quick on this, yes or no.

02:07:19.180 Yeah, yes.

02:07:20.120 You date a guy who's bi?

02:07:21.880 Yeah.

02:07:22.160 Okay, a guy who sleeps with men. 0.96

02:07:24.360 I mean, I'd rather we be in a, I'd rather an exclusive dating relationship, like I wouldn't want him to be sleeping with other guys.

02:07:32.540 Is that what you were saying?

02:07:33.780 Well, no, it's just, I mean, let's say a week before you hook up with a guy, he was bottomed out by a dude, just bent over on the bed and just.

02:07:45.860 Just rammed.

02:07:46.860 Just rammed.

02:07:47.800 I really just, I don't have a preference on that.

02:07:50.380 BBC?

02:07:51.260 Huh?

02:07:51.900 Wait, what?

02:07:53.000 No, I don't have a preference on that.

02:07:54.840 For four years prior to meeting you.

02:07:56.420 You don't care.

02:07:57.640 For four years prior to meeting you, he'd only been taking it from dudes.

02:08:01.100 And then he was like, you know what, I like you.

02:08:02.780 I personally like a bi man.

02:08:04.700 I like, like, guys are kind of femme.

02:08:06.340 Me too.

02:08:07.140 That's one of my types, for sure.

02:08:09.280 Are you guys on birth control?

02:08:09.920 I think they know what they're doing more than two men.

02:08:11.800 Are you guys on birth control?

02:08:13.160 No.

02:08:13.760 I am.

02:08:14.680 And I like bi men. 0.83

02:08:16.020 I like femme men.

02:08:17.460 Can you explain that?

02:08:18.440 Like, when you say you like femme men, like what? 0.60

02:08:20.260 They kind of like have a, like a girl.

02:08:22.380 They're more artsy.

02:08:23.720 They can not judge a girl as much.

02:08:24.440 Are you attracted?

02:08:25.000 Like you're more attracted or?

02:08:27.180 Sometimes.

02:08:29.080 I think girls.

02:08:29.660 Are you, are you, are you into girls?

02:08:32.800 Sometimes.

02:08:33.600 Okay.

02:08:33.940 Well that, there we go.

02:08:34.980 I mean.

02:08:35.340 Have you guys ever hooked up?

02:08:36.980 No.

02:08:38.180 No.

02:08:38.840 We're just, we're best friends.

02:08:40.460 Okay.

02:08:41.000 Okay.

02:08:41.160 Said package deal.

02:08:42.300 Both interested in girls.

02:08:43.500 Figured maybe.

02:08:44.320 Definitely had a lot of guys.

02:08:45.460 Like want us both at the same time.

02:08:50.080 For sure.

02:08:50.840 But I think bi men are more down to earth. 1.00

02:08:54.040 I'd have to be a really lucky guy.

02:08:56.120 But you haven't done that.

02:08:57.360 No.

02:08:59.000 A lot of propositions.

02:09:00.360 Yeah.

02:09:00.520 That's some top secret info.

02:09:02.200 Would you, would you date a bi guy?

02:09:04.400 It's a definite no.

02:09:06.940 That's a no for me.

02:09:08.180 No.

02:09:08.500 Hold on.

02:09:08.900 Kiki.

02:09:09.720 It will.

02:09:10.720 A no.

02:09:11.560 Okay.

02:09:12.640 No, I wouldn't.

02:09:15.080 No.

02:09:15.740 Most likely not.

02:09:16.220 Would you date a bi girl? 1.00

02:09:17.820 No.

02:09:18.520 Probably not.

02:09:19.080 I mean, it's possible.

02:09:20.040 Probably not.

02:09:20.700 Okay.

02:09:21.840 Chase.

02:09:23.020 I'd date a bi girl. 1.00

02:09:24.600 I'd date a bi girl. 1.00

02:09:25.560 I just, I just feel like there's more, there's more like potential for risk there.

02:09:29.000 I think guys sometimes find bi women more attractive. 1.00

02:09:32.900 Like they want, guys find it when girls are making out, hooking up, they get turned on

02:09:37.740 and think it's attractive.

02:09:39.020 From what I've seen from personal experience.

02:09:40.560 Yeah.

02:09:40.740 A lot of my friends find that hot.

02:09:43.340 It's true, but it's just, it's just them being bi.

02:09:45.820 It's like, it's just, there's something about it.

02:09:47.980 It's like, you're kind of more likely to potentially sleep with another man too.

02:09:53.900 But it's also different.

02:09:55.140 It's like with girls, it's like girls kiss girls. 1.00

02:09:56.680 It's like so chill.

02:09:58.040 But like with guys, I feel like there's a different.

02:10:01.500 That's true.

02:10:02.360 Like you.

02:10:03.040 Yeah.

02:10:03.480 I mean, but I think if we're talking about that, that's no big deal.

02:10:06.700 But if, if it's like, if she's actively dating like other girls, it'd be kind of like, that's

02:10:12.440 kind of weird.

02:10:12.860 Like, I don't think I would want that.

02:10:14.100 If she's like actively, like if she's just hooking up with another girl, like sure.

02:10:18.620 But if she's dating other girls, it's like probably not.

02:10:22.580 Are you just saying that to be controversial?

02:10:24.980 Or like you actually think.

02:10:26.020 No, no, no.

02:10:26.520 I like, I wouldn't want like a girl that's, that's actively dating other girls. 0.99

02:10:31.640 Most likely.

02:10:32.640 You mean like actively dating, like you guys, she's dating someone when you're dating her

02:10:38.080 or just like in general?

02:10:40.460 Like when I'm dating her.

02:10:42.160 Yeah.

02:10:42.580 Yeah.

02:10:42.820 Okay.

02:10:43.140 Yeah.

02:10:43.320 That makes sense.

02:10:43.780 Yeah.

02:10:45.180 But you mean, you mean, or even in the early stages, you wouldn't want to be dating a woman 1.00

02:10:50.760 who's dating other.

02:10:51.600 It's just like, cause I think about it in terms of marriage.

02:10:54.400 So it's like, when I think about dating a girl or being with a girl, it's like, I'm

02:10:58.340 thinking about marriage.

02:11:00.020 So if the girl is like hooking up with other girls, it's like, I'll view her as a, maybe 1.00

02:11:04.780 a potential partner for like a one night stand or something, but I don't really take that.

02:11:08.840 I don't take that as marriage material.

02:11:11.580 Why wouldn't you three date by guys? 0.99

02:11:15.260 Does Kiki go first?

02:11:18.520 Um, I think that it's more risk, um, as far as, you know, the temptation.

02:11:24.400 You know, it's, it's double the probability that they're going to stray away from your

02:11:28.880 relationship.

02:11:31.100 I just think it's just a turn off.

02:11:34.780 I don't know how I can like imagine like the guy, a guy I'm supposed to be having sex

02:11:40.000 with, like, like, you know, I just simply don't understand how that just wouldn't be

02:11:46.680 attractive.

02:11:47.120 That would just be like an instant turn off.

02:11:48.380 Maybe, maybe I can also frame it this way.

02:11:50.740 Would you guys be down to peg a guy?

02:11:53.240 What is that?

02:11:54.800 No.

02:11:56.000 You would not be down to peg a guy?

02:11:57.820 Oh my God.

02:11:59.060 No.

02:12:00.200 Why not?

02:12:02.240 So discriminatory.

02:12:03.020 Because that doesn't turn me on.

02:12:04.680 It doesn't, what if it turns him on?

02:12:06.780 I don't care.

02:12:08.300 But, but would it be a turn off for you?

02:12:12.440 I'm, I'm trying to get at something.

02:12:13.600 Would it be a turn off for you to peg a guy?

02:12:18.980 Would it be a turn off for you?

02:12:21.220 Kind of.

02:12:21.880 This is just.

02:12:22.180 Because that's like not.

02:12:23.240 What, what?

02:12:23.980 What is, it's a fair question.

02:12:27.560 I mean, you're not, this is like such a different subject.

02:12:29.960 It's like one is okay if we're into bi people and the other one is like what we like in the 0.80

02:12:33.920 bedroom.

02:12:34.080 Like, you're laughing so much. 0.99

02:12:37.920 It's so, it's such a ridiculous question. 0.98

02:12:39.900 It's related. 0.97

02:12:40.980 It's related.

02:12:41.880 It's so easy.

02:12:42.860 It's so easy to admit.

02:12:44.420 Yeah.

02:12:44.640 It's a turn off.

02:12:45.320 I don't want to peg a dude.

02:12:47.140 Okay.

02:12:47.500 And then you also asked, oh, is dating a bi guy?

02:12:51.140 Like, are we into that or not?

02:12:52.200 I don't care.

02:12:53.500 But yeah, personally, we're in the bedroom.

02:12:55.560 This is a different conversation.

02:12:57.080 I'm not down to peg a guy.

02:12:59.380 That's different.

02:13:00.040 That's fine.

02:13:00.600 That's totally fine.

02:13:01.480 That's a good, that's a good answer.

02:13:02.560 So do you think, do you think if you're dating someone who's bisexual, that they're

02:13:06.700 not going to want you to participate in some of those acts?

02:13:11.120 That's not where I was going.

02:13:12.140 I mean.

02:13:12.680 That's a fair question.

02:13:13.880 That's a fair question.

02:13:15.000 That is fair.

02:13:16.020 But, but the point I'm trying to make is, is that it would kind of be putting you in

02:13:19.800 a role where you would be dominating the guy and you would find that unattractive to be

02:13:25.440 dominating him in that way.

02:13:27.340 That's just so different.

02:13:28.140 It's like, are you into being dominated or being like, that's.

02:13:32.720 Anyway.

02:13:33.220 Okay.

02:13:33.440 Whatever.

02:13:33.820 Next super chat here.

02:13:34.760 Yeah.

02:13:35.080 We got Jordan Huber here with the $10 soup chat.

02:13:37.240 Why is it when men have standards, it's controlling or insecure, but if women have standards, it's 1.00

02:13:42.560 knowing their self-worth or what they want.

02:13:45.120 That's a great question.

02:13:46.060 That's actually a very fantastic point.

02:13:48.640 Live.

02:13:49.460 Oh, live.

02:13:50.980 Live.

02:13:51.420 What's up?

02:13:51.840 You're really pretty and knowledgeable.

02:13:53.280 Jordan Huber.

02:13:53.780 Thank you for the $10 soup chat.

02:13:55.340 That is a fantastic point though, because, uh, definitely men in today's day and age are

02:14:00.480 not allowed to have preferences, standards, and boundaries when we do.

02:14:04.840 And when we voice them, it's almost always met with contempt or some sort of shaming language

02:14:10.380 or you're, you're insecure.

02:14:12.480 You're an incel. 0.98

02:14:13.400 You're a misogynist, just some sort of shaming language. 0.96

02:14:16.920 Men are not, women apparently have a monopoly on having preferences, standards, and boundaries. 0.79

02:14:22.420 The second that the man has one, oh, that's discrimination or, you know, one of these 1.00

02:14:27.460 shaming terms, so controlling, it's always controlling, controlling, insecure, small dick 0.99

02:14:32.020 energy, blah, blah, blah. 0.98

02:14:33.300 What I think that is, is a cultural conditioning that's happening societally to demasculinize

02:14:38.820 men and break up the family home. 1.00

02:14:40.980 Yeah.

02:14:41.600 Yeah.

02:14:42.040 Yeah.

02:14:42.360 Yeah.

02:14:43.300 They are trying to destroy the nuclear family. 0.84

02:14:45.440 That's very true.

02:14:46.040 The nuclear family is the strongest.

02:14:47.300 So that's where they're going to get us.

02:14:49.140 Yep. 1.00

02:14:50.220 Damn. 1.00

02:14:50.560 Based. 1.00

02:14:51.080 What a legend.

02:14:53.140 Your name's Ashley, right?

02:14:54.620 Correct.

02:14:55.260 Ashley, the legend.

02:14:57.040 Ashley, the, okay, anyways.

02:14:58.580 So that's it for the Super Chats.

02:15:00.320 On to our next topic.

02:15:04.200 Okay, so would you rather find out your boyfriend spent $5,000 on a sex doll or that he cheated 1.00

02:15:13.500 on you with a girl who's uglier than you? 1.00

02:15:15.740 What a great question. 1.00

02:15:16.960 Oh my God.

02:15:17.800 How much money do we have in the bank is the question.

02:15:21.720 He's like seven, maybe 70 K a year type of guy.

02:15:33.900 Liv, we'll start with you.

02:15:35.020 Go ahead, Liv. 1.00

02:15:35.520 I was just going to ask, is he, is he fucking this ugly girl over and over just like he 1.00

02:15:42.660 would do with the doll? 1.00

02:15:44.460 No.

02:15:44.900 Well, I think it's like probably a, I don't know.

02:15:47.600 I didn't think that the question that far through, let's just say he's cheating on you.

02:15:52.660 Okay, so it's like an affair.

02:15:53.840 One night stand.

02:15:54.580 Yeah, maybe let's just say he did it once. 0.99

02:15:56.480 Okay, one night stand versus the sex doll. 1.00

02:15:58.760 Versus the sex doll. 1.00

02:16:00.160 It costs $5,000. 0.91

02:16:02.400 I mean, if we have money in the bank, I guess I'd rather find out he bought a sex doll rather 0.96

02:16:09.740 than going with a whole nother girl. 0.99

02:16:12.780 But then again, if the girl's ugly, it might be a confidence booze. 1.00

02:16:17.720 Isn't that like so sad though? 0.79

02:16:19.400 Wouldn't it just be so sad?

02:16:20.740 I don't know how I would answer that because that's such a weird question. 0.96

02:16:25.880 Obviously, I'd want to find out he bought a sex doll over that he cheated. 1.00

02:16:29.640 I don't know. 0.97

02:16:30.660 $5,000? 0.99

02:16:31.900 Like he just spends $5,000 to have sex with a doll over like a real person? 1.00

02:16:36.700 Then yeah, I'd probably rather have him cheat with like an ugly girl. 1.00

02:16:40.340 I don't know. 0.99

02:16:41.400 I don't know.

02:16:43.280 Keep it up, Eric. 1.00

02:16:44.340 Is that because it would be pathetic for him to be having sex with a doll, spending way 1.00

02:16:48.580 too much money on it? 1.00

02:16:50.560 Also, what conversation did I just step in?

02:16:52.840 That's what I'm saying.

02:16:53.880 You missed a good one. 0.98

02:16:54.440 I think I would rather, yeah, I'd probably rather find out he's cheating with an ugly 1.00

02:16:58.240 girl because it's like, one, she can have you, two, you know, no money out of my pocket 1.00

02:17:07.300 or our bank account.

02:17:10.000 So he spent your money on the doll.

02:17:11.560 Oh, I'd be pissed.

02:17:12.380 Yeah. 1.00

02:17:12.720 Than the ugly girl. 1.00

02:17:13.620 I want to wait for my next question until she's back. 1.00

02:17:15.940 We'll skip this sex doll long. 0.99

02:17:17.460 It's kind of dumb. 0.99

02:17:18.180 What was the question? 0.99

02:17:19.680 How did it get to that?

02:17:20.500 If you had to choose, would you rather your boyfriend cheat on you?

02:17:23.160 Or sorry. 0.99

02:17:23.520 If you had to choose, would you rather find out your boyfriend spent $5,000 on a sex doll 1.00

02:17:27.560 or that he cheated on you with a girl who's uglier than you? 1.00

02:17:31.580 I've got a better one. 0.95

02:17:32.620 What were your answers?

02:17:34.160 We didn't get to answer yet.

02:17:35.080 Well, okay.

02:17:35.660 We'll let you guys go.

02:17:36.760 We'll let you guys go on that really quick.

02:17:38.600 Just give us a quick answer to that.

02:17:41.240 Well, my answer is that, you know, I think they're both equally bad because if he's going

02:17:47.220 to spend $5,000 on a doll, then you're obviously-

02:17:49.980 It's money he could spend on you.

02:17:51.340 Well, no.

02:17:52.020 I mean, it's the fact that he finds more validation in the doll or the other woman.

02:17:56.900 I think it's both- 0.97

02:17:57.880 They're both terrible.

02:17:59.060 Equally bad? 0.98

02:17:59.820 They're both equally bad.

02:18:01.260 Be gentle.

02:18:02.140 Be gentle with Kiki. 0.99

02:18:02.900 I would definitely way more prefer the sex doll because that makes me think that he 0.97

02:18:06.640 was, like, caring about my feelings, probably, and then also isn't exposed to the risk of

02:18:12.660 STDs or having a child with that person, which is, like, worst case.

02:18:17.040 Yeah.

02:18:17.560 Yeah, low-key agree with that. 0.98

02:18:19.460 Maybe he's trying to, like, step up his sex game with the doll, like, practice some crazy 0.98

02:18:24.360 moves. 0.98

02:18:24.900 I don't know.

02:18:25.760 Does the doll have an opinion?

02:18:27.740 Does she get to give him reviews after?

02:18:29.680 Was it consensual?

02:18:31.160 No.

02:18:31.540 Yeah, I don't know.

02:18:33.460 It's a crazy question.

02:18:34.840 What would you guys think of him after the fact, finding out he had bought a doll?

02:18:38.340 I would just be like, what can I do better?

02:18:42.160 Probably.

02:18:43.460 Yeah.

02:18:45.280 Yeah, I think that's fair.

02:18:46.680 If he prefers an inanimate object to you, that's not a good sign.

02:18:51.140 Either way, it's not a good thing.

02:18:52.960 Because if he's spending $5,000, I would think it'd be as realistic as possible.

02:18:58.360 So that does kind of, yeah.

02:19:00.100 Yeah, that's a question that you really have to think about before you answer it, because

02:19:03.900 there's so many factors that could go into that.

02:19:09.700 Okay.

02:19:12.020 I want us to react to a video.

02:19:14.180 Actually, I think we, did we get a super chat?

02:19:17.060 Did we, did we do this one?

02:19:20.620 Did we do this one?

02:19:21.600 These women have been socially engineered. 1.00

02:19:23.200 No, we have not.

02:19:24.480 These women have been socially engineered and have acquired tastes that aren't genuine to 1.00

02:19:29.460 them.

02:19:30.200 When push comes to shove and they had to be stuck with one man, they'd always choose a

02:19:35.340 real man.

02:19:36.460 Yep.

02:19:37.000 That's facts.

02:19:37.720 That's true. 1.00

02:19:38.540 Mike Davis, fucking legend. 0.99

02:19:40.600 Mike Davis always coming in with the heaters, dude. 0.99

02:19:43.800 I'm surprised that there's not more roasting though, Mr. Mike Davis.

02:19:47.060 Yeah.

02:19:47.280 We need some roasted.

02:19:48.020 There's a lot to roast here, Mike.

02:19:49.340 You know what?

02:19:49.800 Do you think it was kind of related to our previous conversation as far as like people

02:19:54.060 being, should we pull up the Crowder reaction clip?

02:19:57.620 Go for it.

02:19:58.220 Chase, what do you think?

02:19:59.140 Yeah, go for it.

02:19:59.880 All right.

02:20:00.180 Um, this is related to our kind of our discussion about how, you know, when you're, oh, well,

02:20:05.640 if you're 22 that, you know, you just go to the club, like whatever.

02:20:08.940 So Eric, if you can pull up the clip in the video tab, um, I might've put it, I might've

02:20:16.460 put it in hidden folder.

02:20:18.880 Yeah.

02:20:21.160 Do you guys know his show got featured on Steven Crowder?

02:20:24.320 Big influencer.

02:20:25.180 Do you know Steven Crowder?

02:20:28.000 No.

02:20:28.600 Go, go back up.

02:20:29.580 It might be, uh, go up.

02:20:31.600 It's a pretty big deal.

02:20:32.640 Oh, there it is.

02:20:33.240 Okay.

02:20:34.240 Kind of a big deal.

02:20:35.300 All right.

02:20:35.760 Let's watch this, uh, first really quickly.

02:20:37.700 There was a group of women on a podcaster.

02:20:39.140 This has been making the rounds.

02:20:40.400 Uh, and I guess the host, I'm not familiar with it, but the host kind of, you know, called

02:20:44.980 them the task and they didn't know what to do with it.

02:20:46.480 They're proclaiming what a wonderful thing it is, uh, for women in their twenties to not 0.97

02:20:51.440 be in relationships and they use these broad terms, like explore themselves.

02:20:55.060 Anyway, just see how this goes down.

02:20:56.660 I know that they're talking to a bunch of guys.

02:20:58.380 So why would I close myself off to just that one guy?

02:21:02.460 Right?

02:21:03.020 I don't know.

02:21:03.760 Do you guys agree?

02:21:04.740 Yeah.

02:21:05.160 Like why would I take someone seriously when clearly they're not taking me seriously at

02:21:09.140 all?

02:21:09.940 Yeah.

02:21:10.100 Especially cause we're all like in our early twenties.

02:21:12.320 Like this is the time to like explore and find yourself too.

02:21:16.520 Exactly.

02:21:18.000 When you say explore and find yourself, does that mean just like get run through by a bunch

02:21:24.860 of dudes?

02:21:25.440 No.

02:21:26.220 I just want to translate.

02:21:27.360 Wait, where did you get that?

02:21:29.020 I'm just translating here.

02:21:31.500 I meant like literally finding who you are.

02:21:32.900 Like the correct answer is yes.

02:21:34.880 That's what they meant.

02:21:36.660 Or girls. 0.64

02:21:37.700 Yes.

02:21:38.220 Here's the thing.

02:21:39.000 You're like, we're in our twenties.

02:21:39.840 Yeah.

02:21:40.340 You know, you know, the world war two was won by women in their twenties. 0.57

02:21:44.040 Like that was a big part of the, you know, the war effort.

02:21:45.660 Like back in the day, women in their twenties were working, they had children, they had established 0.99

02:21:50.140 families, they had a home.

02:21:51.820 You don't have to in your twenties have a bunch of meaningless relationships in one night

02:21:56.300 stands.

02:21:56.720 It is true.

02:21:57.440 It is.

02:21:57.800 There is a double standard just to be clear.

02:21:59.400 There is a double.

02:21:59.840 And it's not that we're setting it.

02:22:01.260 Biology is setting the standard.

02:22:03.820 Men don't have that kind of a window. 1.00

02:22:05.520 Men can have kids well into their, gosh, Abraham.

02:22:08.420 I mean, you go like it probably into your nineties.

02:22:10.080 I don't know, but I'm sure it can be done.

02:22:11.820 I mean, you need assistance, but you do have a certain win.

02:22:15.720 And if you're saying, oh, I'm going to waste my twenties and women often get into their thirties 0.96

02:22:19.820 and they go, oh, they end up settling.

02:22:21.980 Say, I'm not going to settle for anything less than perfect when you're in your twenties.

02:22:24.560 And then you end up settling for a trash bag in your thirties because now you're up against

02:22:28.980 the clock. 0.98

02:22:30.000 And I'm not saying, just to be clear, people use this term slut shaming all the time.

02:22:33.120 No, look, that's not, I'm not slut shaming anybody.

02:22:36.720 Okay. 0.99

02:22:37.620 That being said, look, can we all acknowledge that not most women are whores? 0.98

02:22:45.340 Okay. 0.98

02:22:45.540 Let's be clear about it.

02:22:46.300 Not, not probably not even a plurality.

02:22:48.520 Okay.

02:22:49.520 But some are, and it's a bad idea.

02:22:54.160 Are we not allowed to say that some are at this point?

02:22:56.560 Well, if you're just going on your, and you're going into it with the mindset of I am going

02:23:00.460 to sleep around, I, this, because it's my twenties, some women are. 1.00

02:23:06.980 And we'd like to thank your dad.

02:23:08.520 Find guys that are serious about you.

02:23:10.880 Don't, don't settle for the guys that obviously aren't taking you seriously.

02:23:13.760 By the way, if you want to be taken seriously, be somebody that can be taken seriously as

02:23:17.220 well.

02:23:17.980 It didn't quite look like that.

02:23:19.000 But you're young, I get it.

02:23:19.960 It's this baseline.

02:23:20.900 It's this baseline.

02:23:21.680 Well, we're in our twenties, so this is what we do.

02:23:22.940 Something happens in college.

02:23:23.640 You know, I was in college, so I, you know, was getting ripped all the time.

02:23:26.820 Look, I, I drink.

02:23:28.500 I'm not someone who, I don't drink a lot.

02:23:29.960 I have no problem with people who drink.

02:23:31.120 I have no problem with people who do these things responsibly.

02:23:34.520 But to say, well, the baseline is if you're in college is four, four years of glorified

02:23:37.360 alcoholism.

02:23:37.900 It doesn't have to be that way.

02:23:39.840 Right.

02:23:39.980 And this is perpetuated by, of course, the entertainment industry saying, well, this

02:23:42.580 is what women should do in your twenties. 1.00

02:23:43.960 This is what, this is what you should do in college.

02:23:45.460 No, no, no.

02:23:46.120 You can make good decisions at any point in your life.

02:23:48.600 And they're so dumbfounded.

02:23:49.860 I was like, is that what, no, that's not what we mean.

02:23:51.760 Well, what do you mean?

02:23:53.640 We live relationships and sleep with a lot of guys.

02:23:55.200 Okay.

02:23:55.600 Here's the issue. 0.76

02:23:56.340 And I will say it is a double standard when people say, why am I a slut if I do this and 0.92

02:23:59.180 men aren't? 0.92

02:23:59.640 Okay.

02:24:00.860 That is true.

02:24:02.320 Here's why.

02:24:03.580 You're the gatekeeper.

02:24:05.180 Your set point, women, you control access to sex, right? 1.00

02:24:08.480 Because your natural set point is no, I don't know, prove your worth.

02:24:12.220 A man's natural set point is please. 1.00

02:24:14.240 So you are the rate limiting factor.

02:24:17.820 Take advantage of it.

02:24:18.560 We've tried to empower women by stripping them of something with which they're powerful. 1.00

02:24:22.520 The ability to pick a suitor.

02:24:24.900 You've given it away.

02:24:26.240 Yeah.

02:24:26.420 You have value.

02:24:28.540 Yes.

02:24:29.580 You know.

02:24:30.620 You have inherent value.

02:24:32.100 Yeah.

02:24:32.300 That you can use.

02:24:33.180 Like if I ever hit rock bottom, I just can't go out and sell myself.

02:24:36.940 No, you can't.

02:24:37.780 No.

02:24:38.320 Well, I can.

02:24:39.180 It's just going to be to other men.

02:24:40.440 Yes, exactly.

02:24:42.220 All right.

02:24:42.920 So that's Steven Crowder reacting to one of our videos.

02:24:46.980 Let's have, and Frank, thank you for this super chat.

02:24:49.440 We'll get to it after we have the people's reaction here.

02:24:52.300 Your reaction to the video.

02:24:54.100 And he touched on a couple different points, but your reaction.

02:24:58.780 Oh, I think, what did he say?

02:25:01.440 Like we're giving away our value as women? 0.64

02:25:03.940 Well, he said a lot of things, but I mean, one of the things that we sort of talked about

02:25:09.340 earlier on in the show is that you don't have, even though you're young, you don't have

02:25:14.980 to go through a whole phase, basically.

02:25:19.600 You can be trying to find that long-term serious guy.

02:25:25.540 I mean, in that, I think in that regard, it's really up to the person.

02:25:32.400 If you find the right person, some people find the right person in high school, for example.

02:25:37.240 You meet that person in high school, you settle down with them, you essentially.

02:25:40.620 Please talk into the microphone.

02:25:41.440 Oh, sorry.

02:25:42.100 I think some people, for example, they meet their forever person in high school.

02:25:47.320 Some people, they don't get married until they're in their 30s.

02:25:50.760 It's really up to personal preference.

02:25:52.760 Would you agree that our culture right now pushes girls to be basically promiscuous and 0.99

02:25:59.780 have lots of sex?

02:26:01.880 I think society now just pushes women to have their own choice because women, traditionally, 1.00

02:26:09.600 not men, have always had people, like, rules on saying what we can and cannot do, kind

02:26:16.300 of, in terms of sex.

02:26:17.420 So, now I think it's, like, we want to liberate women, and I'm here for that.

02:26:23.840 Yeah, because I think that's kind of the point that Steven was making, is that we push that

02:26:29.020 in the culture right now for girls to go out and find themselves, meaning have lots of sex. 1.00

02:26:35.180 And that is going to lead you to, down the line, realize that that's not something that,

02:26:41.120 like, you're probably going to regret it.

02:26:42.440 A lot of girls are regretting it, and the good thing is that YouTube is now, there's

02:26:46.680 more girls out there putting content out about this exact thing. 1.00

02:26:50.700 Girls that were feminists way in their 20s, now they're in their 30s talking about how 1.00

02:26:55.440 they wish that they hadn't done some of the things they did in the past.

02:26:58.640 And I think it's important that girls look at that and learn from it.

02:27:01.820 I think just for me personally, like, if the right guy, I think this whole, for me, is

02:27:10.440 if, when, if and when the right guy comes around, like, I'm ready and I'm open to it, I'm not,

02:27:15.260 like, waiting for some specific age for that, I'm not waiting for some specific age for that

02:27:20.400 to happen.

02:27:21.640 I'm also not trying to get married too early, I'm not trying to get, yeah.

02:27:25.500 When do you want to get married?

02:27:26.700 I really don't have a specific, I, just, if the right person comes along for me.

02:27:31.080 Let's say, let's say the right guy came along tomorrow and he was like, Lauren, you're

02:27:35.280 amazing, like, let's go out.

02:27:36.720 I mean, there's a lot of guys that don't say, Lauren, you're amazing, but.

02:27:39.620 Lauren, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.

02:27:40.940 Six months down the line, you know, you guys have really hit it off, you've fallen in

02:27:44.300 love and he's, like, perfect.

02:27:46.460 Okay, honestly.

02:27:47.160 And he wants to marry you, would you do it?

02:27:48.880 I'm someone who does really, like, think with my heart a lot.

02:27:51.520 Yeah, if it was the right person and I really loved him, then, yeah, I would.

02:27:57.260 I honestly would, so.

02:27:58.780 That's, that's good to hear.

02:28:00.300 Yeah.

02:28:00.580 I wasn't expecting that.

02:28:02.640 I mean, for me, it's not more about, like.

02:28:05.380 I was expecting you to say, I want my freedom until, like, later in my 20s.

02:28:09.160 No, I think with my heart a lot, honestly, if someone came along tomorrow and we just,

02:28:12.580 like, clicked, because that happens for me, someone will come along and I'm just like,

02:28:16.200 oh my God, I need this person.

02:28:19.580 Yeah.

02:28:19.940 Yeah, I think if that were to happen, I would definitely be like, that's a person for me.

02:28:24.360 But right now that's not happening, so I'm not going to force it to happen just because I'm, the society's like, you should get married at this age.

02:28:32.960 Your reaction to the video?

02:28:35.580 Well, I think hookup culture is still perpetuated.

02:28:41.180 I mean, on my TikTok, I see all the time, like, people giving advice for, like, guys you're hooking up with, like, all this stuff about, you know, in college, like, who you're hooking up with, blah, blah, blah.

02:28:56.020 But, yeah, I do agree with Lauren in that it's, like, a personal thing.

02:29:02.760 Like, if you don't want to engage in that culture, you don't have to.

02:29:06.880 Yeah, but I do think social media and society still pushes that in some ways.

02:29:14.740 I mentioned this last time I was on, but I have a very strong opinion that our modern culture is heavily promoting,

02:29:26.020 and pushing hookup culture and casual sex on younger girls, telling them it's empowering, telling them it's good for them,

02:29:32.260 telling them it's how they're going to find themselves, even though I don't know what you're learning about yourself by having sex with a guy. 0.62

02:29:39.060 Tell me where, like, is it the pillow talk where you learn everything about yourself?

02:29:43.320 You can't be doing that in any, like, more meaningful way.

02:29:45.580 Do it!

02:29:46.260 Oh, sorry, I didn't mean to press that button.

02:29:49.220 My bad.

02:29:50.600 I did not mean to press that button.

02:29:52.480 My bad.

02:29:53.000 Sorry, keep going.

02:29:54.040 Keep going.

02:29:54.680 And then, on another note, about, like, what if, you know, like, doing this, like, having fun, sleeping around,

02:30:03.200 until the right guy comes around, personally, I feel like I am not only, like, welcoming and attracting, like,

02:30:11.160 the best guy possible by abstaining from hookup culture, but that is, like, a, I don't see it as, like,

02:30:18.760 I'm denying myself by not hooking up with or going out with guys who I know I'm just, aren't, you know,

02:30:26.380 aren't the type that I'm looking for.

02:30:28.260 It's more of, like, I enjoy the fact that I feel like I'm rewarding my future partner and, like, my future husband and stuff by having my priorities in line.

02:30:36.200 And, yeah, protecting, like, my body and worry.

02:30:40.520 I can tell you, Tara, 99% of guys are going to really appreciate that.

02:30:43.820 Yes.

02:30:44.440 I mean, I hope so.

02:30:45.380 I mean, I'm just going off the impression that that's, like, I think it was a lie to, like, tell girls that the ego boost you're getting from having sex with tens and tens of guys is worth just not, just not, not only just, like, the STD birth control things you're, you know, like, exposing yourself to pregnancy risk.

02:31:05.120 But just, I just, yeah.

02:31:07.420 How did you get to this point?

02:31:09.060 Because a lot of girls, you know, like, like you just said, like, guys will really listen to you if you say these things.

02:31:16.080 You know, we look for that.

02:31:17.820 So, but how did you get to that point?

02:31:20.400 That's a good question.

02:31:21.700 I feel, I definitely feel like I was lied to, like, when I was younger.

02:31:25.660 Lied to in the way of, it was, the pressure to, like, be a strong, independent woman by having casual sex was very strong.

02:31:33.260 That that is the right way to do it.

02:31:34.240 That would be good for me in the long run.

02:31:35.780 I have no one.

02:31:37.160 I mean, I mean, my parents were never sort of strict about sex.

02:31:42.320 I never felt any family pressure.

02:31:43.780 I didn't grow up religious.

02:31:44.640 I'm religious now, but I didn't have that before to be compelling me towards some sort of, you know, route sexually.

02:31:49.180 I just sort of had to find it on my own.

02:31:50.860 But it was really just, I mean, it was a combination of just being self-reflective and asking myself, what am I getting out of this?

02:31:56.860 Because I feel like I'm not getting anything.

02:31:58.720 I think I deserve better.

02:31:59.740 Are your friends sharing the same beliefs as you?

02:32:02.040 Yeah, that's also a good question.

02:32:03.680 Something that I was going to say.

02:32:05.040 Because I'm a 21-year-old girl, you know, having the time of my life, like, in my 20s.

02:32:10.500 But I don't drink and do alcohol.

02:32:13.400 I mean, I don't, you know, drink and do drugs heavily.

02:32:15.760 I'm not, like, going out to frat parties every night.

02:32:19.200 I'm not, I don't engage in casual sex or, like, hookup culture.

02:32:22.700 And I would still say, compared to my friends, I'm happier, I'm healthier, and I have, yeah, a more stable sense of, like, my self-worth and my priorities in line.

02:32:32.960 And I advocate to them every day, like, all day.

02:32:35.620 Every day they'll be like, why is this guy, like, how do I, they'll be so fixated on how do I get this guy to take me seriously.

02:32:41.040 But all they want to do is meet guys at a club downtown or meet them at a frat party.

02:32:47.320 And, yeah, I'm like, come on, I don't know.

02:32:52.220 I feel like there's your hint.

02:32:54.300 So I found the video interesting, especially since, you know, I don't think your, I don't think your age is a excuse to have a certain type of behavior.

02:33:09.480 When I was 22, I was having a baby.

02:33:12.860 And I was having a family.

02:33:14.640 And I was working full time.

02:33:16.180 And so, you know, in those aspects, it's like there is a whole hookup culture that now that I'm in the dating world again, it's so hard to relate with.

02:33:27.220 It's so difficult to relate with these people because I obviously wanted the family at the age that everybody was at the club.

02:33:35.580 I was working full time while they're working at restaurants and going to classes.

02:33:41.620 So did you want, you wanted a family at 22?

02:33:44.440 I did.

02:33:44.920 I've always wanted a family.

02:33:45.800 Did you, so you wanted to, like, when you had your kid, you knew the guy you were having the kid with and you wanted it.

02:33:51.280 So the situation, I had just met him.

02:33:54.940 So, I mean, the situation could have been better.

02:33:57.540 I wasn't on birth control.

02:33:59.120 How long after you met him did you get pregnant? 1.00

02:34:01.640 It was like three months.

02:34:03.000 It was really bad.

02:34:04.100 But I stayed with him for four years, right?

02:34:07.300 I committed to this person.

02:34:09.240 And when I got pregnant, I questioned as a mother, you know, since I didn't really know this person.

02:34:15.260 And am I willing to be a single mom if it didn't work out?

02:34:19.420 You know, am I willing to take that risk?

02:34:22.180 And so I did.

02:34:23.460 And so having a family was super important to me, and I did feel like I had connected with the person.

02:34:30.040 I also feel, to the other side of this, I was 22 and mentally immature, which is why I made the choices I did.

02:34:38.260 So what would you say to girls that are 22 right now?

02:34:43.720 I would say you have to sit down and make a list for yourself.

02:34:49.020 What do you want?

02:34:50.720 And how do you think you're going to get it there?

02:34:52.520 Like, you have it right on the head.

02:34:54.480 You know what you want.

02:34:56.400 You have your fixation.

02:34:58.240 You know, you're good.

02:34:59.340 You've, what is so funny?

02:35:02.800 Just the comment.

02:35:03.940 Oh, the comment.

02:35:04.740 Just the comment.

02:35:05.220 Oh, yeah.

02:35:05.480 Not what you're saying.

02:35:06.140 Not what you're saying.

02:35:07.140 So, I mean, like, you have it together.

02:35:09.280 You know what you want, and you know how to get it there and what is going to, you know, ultimately give you the future that you want.

02:35:16.920 But I do feel like there are a lot of females that don't know what they want. 1.00

02:35:20.780 And so how else are they supposed to find that, especially if they don't have great examples around them and with the hookup culture being perpetuated and pushed on people the way that it is?

02:35:32.080 Where, again, it goes back to the social conditioning of breaking up the family nucleus.

02:35:37.340 So we're socially conditioned.

02:35:40.260 We're socially conditioned to operate this way.

02:35:43.440 You asked a really good question there.

02:35:45.800 How else are women supposed to know what they want without, you know, and I'm filling in the blanks, experimenting, discovering themselves, and playing the field, so on and so forth. 1.00

02:35:55.500 How else are women supposed to figure out what they want? 1.00

02:35:58.580 This is where I think, so I'm a Christian, and this is where I think godly men who are godly leaders in society come into play.

02:36:05.600 Because what you were describing, this whole story of how you can find fulfillment by sleeping with a bunch of guys in your 20s, this is a lie that society is selling women. 0.86

02:36:14.940 And a lot of women on the other side of this, they find themselves in their late 20s, early 30s, and all the guys that they want to be with want to be with younger women, and they don't want to be with them.

02:36:24.340 And then these are the women that end up on antidepressants, single and childless in their 40s, right?

02:36:29.360 This is a lie in society that that brings women fulfillment. 1.00

02:36:33.960 This is where I think godly men come into play.

02:36:36.720 It's our job as men to say, that will not bring you fulfillment. 0.86

02:36:40.200 It's our job to hold ourselves to higher standards, not be fuckboys that are going to cheat on you guys and ruin your guys' lives in the process. 0.91

02:36:47.020 That's not good either. 0.62

02:36:48.520 I think it's our job to, you know, tell women, hey, that's not going to bring you fulfillment. 0.98

02:36:53.360 And also, when the right girl comes along, treat her right.

02:36:55.660 Don't be an alcoholic.

02:36:57.160 Don't knock her up after three months before you know if you're right for one another.

02:37:01.540 I think raising the standards for men is really how we fix this.

02:37:06.120 I think that's detrimental.

02:37:08.640 You think what I just said?

02:37:09.580 That's important.

02:37:11.120 Like, that is detrimental.

02:37:12.240 Like, that is something that is completely necessary.

02:37:14.580 Yes.

02:37:15.360 Yeah.

02:37:15.800 It's so necessary.

02:37:17.300 I personally believe men raising our standards for who we are, being straightforward with women about whether or not we're going to use them, cheat on them, so on and so forth.

02:37:26.980 So, it's really imperative for us to do a better job.

02:37:31.520 And I think if we do a better job, I think women will follow because men are naturally leaders.

02:37:36.680 Exactly.

02:37:37.840 What?

02:37:38.520 Are you serious right now?

02:37:40.180 What are you laughing about?

02:37:41.500 You said men are naturally leaders.

02:37:44.440 Yeah.

02:37:44.860 Women will follow. 0.99

02:37:45.440 Men are naturally leaders.

02:37:47.080 Yes.

02:37:47.100 What's wrong with that?

02:37:50.520 Let's let her explain. 0.94

02:37:52.900 I honestly, like, no, I don't even want to go back and forth about this because that was just, that was a crazy statement.

02:37:58.820 That men are leaders?

02:38:00.440 Yeah.

02:38:01.480 But they are.

02:38:02.300 The Bible, the Bible tells us.

02:38:03.600 Historically, they are.

02:38:04.320 I, I, I'm not.

02:38:05.140 I trust, I trust you're not a Christian, but. 1.00

02:38:06.880 I'm sorry.

02:38:07.260 No, I am a Christian, actually.

02:38:09.580 Do you believe what the Bible says?

02:38:12.060 No, I don't.

02:38:13.160 You're a Christian, but you don't believe what the Bible says. 1.00

02:38:15.100 Yeah, I honestly, like, don't really fuck with religion. 0.98

02:38:17.680 Well, let's, let's just, for, for women who aren't religious, you can, you can make this argument without, um, making a argument from authority. 0.98

02:38:27.220 So, so, like, taking the religion out of it, you can still.

02:38:30.640 You could, you could, absolutely.

02:38:32.160 I mean, so, first, let me just say, the Bible calls men to be the spiritual leaders of their households.

02:38:40.660 Okay.

02:38:41.220 But you're talking to someone who isn't even religious, so this is just going over.

02:38:43.760 Wait, you just said you're a Christian.

02:38:45.240 You just said you're a Christian.

02:38:46.240 I'm a Christian, but I'm not religious.

02:38:48.280 Christian in name only.

02:38:49.900 Yeah, I was raised Christian, but I'm not religious.

02:38:52.640 Okay, so, aside from religion, this is going to trigger so many feminists, and I'm okay with it. 0.98

02:39:00.700 Men, on average, are more stress resilient than women are. 0.92

02:39:07.000 This is part of the reason why only men are in special operations, because only men can withstand the stress of going into the military, going into the harder units.

02:39:15.400 Would you guys agree that men, on average, strong men, are more stress resilient than women are?

02:39:20.920 I'm just, I don't even want to get into this.

02:39:22.580 I just feel like that comment made me laugh.

02:39:26.540 Yeah, I got to be honest.

02:39:27.580 It was just, it was just slightly phrased in a way.

02:39:31.160 You were triggered by men being leaders?

02:39:33.440 I wasn't triggered.

02:39:34.340 It was just, you, I can see, like, when you were saying it, I could see why it was, I could tell it was about to, like, it was just a little, it was a little heavy on the, it was only because I didn't know why you didn't mean.

02:39:44.980 Do you not think that men should be leaders?

02:39:46.320 No, no, I thought it was great.

02:39:47.660 Do you think that if men held themselves to a higher standard, and they were better leaders in society, that would change society?

02:39:53.000 I'm not opposing anything you were saying.

02:39:55.700 I was just going to add that I think it was more like you could have left some room for, like, women there also, like, leading the movement to, like, not be part of the culture.

02:40:04.380 Women can. 1.00

02:40:05.120 Women absolutely can. 1.00

02:40:05.680 I think it was just, it was like.

02:40:06.860 Women absolutely can. 1.00

02:40:07.820 The problem.

02:40:08.580 But, I mean, yeah, it's great that, well, I mean.

02:40:10.120 What movement, just what movement are you talking about when you say movement?

02:40:12.460 Well, I don't know.

02:40:12.860 I'll start it.

02:40:13.360 I was just saying, like, that it sounded like you were applying it could only come from men.

02:40:17.960 But I'm assuming that leadership could also come from women as well, not just men.

02:40:22.840 That was, I think, just the impression that they got.

02:40:24.880 You're absolutely right.

02:40:25.800 It can come from women as well, and that's what Steven Crowder was getting at in his clip.

02:40:29.980 He was saying, you guys are the gatekeepers.

02:40:31.760 So if you guys decided that you weren't going to sleep with a bunch of chads who were going to use you, there wouldn't be chads that were using you guys.

02:40:38.880 You know what I mean?

02:40:39.420 But the problem is, is that women want to sleep with chads who end up using them. 1.00

02:40:44.020 So we have this culture that keeps on perpetuating.

02:40:46.180 I can't change what you guys are going to do.

02:40:48.780 All I can do is call other men up to the standard of not being chads that use women constantly. 0.98

02:40:53.620 And I know that if, as men, we take accountability for that and we change that, that will change the culture.

02:40:59.020 Because I don't expect women to do that. 1.00

02:41:00.680 Women want to sleep with dudes. 1.00

02:41:02.760 You guys want to sleep with guys. 0.72

02:41:04.300 You're making a great point, too.

02:41:06.120 Because accountability is everything as well.

02:41:08.440 Because we need you to be held accountable.

02:41:11.800 Because it used to be that if you did that, if you slept around, did that, like, that was publicly looked down upon.

02:41:19.060 And today, it's not at all.

02:41:20.720 It's promoted.

02:41:21.340 Yeah, that's great.

02:41:22.120 No, it's great that we can just do whatever we want.

02:41:26.520 It's great we can do whatever we want, just like men have always been able to do whatever they want.

02:41:30.540 Yeah, that's fine.

02:41:34.000 I mean, that's fine.

02:41:35.480 I mean, that's fine if that's what you want to do.

02:41:37.200 But when it comes in the context of a relationship, to make it work well, you're not going to want to do that.

02:41:44.020 You're going to probably regret it later on.

02:41:45.040 Are you talking about cheating? 0.61

02:41:46.280 No, I'm talking about sleeping around, being promiscuous, having lots of sexual partners.

02:41:49.920 In regards to just, like, in general, like in relationships?

02:41:53.440 Can you elaborate on that?

02:41:53.800 No, as a female.

02:41:55.340 As a female.

02:41:56.120 Yeah, can you elaborate on that?

02:41:57.140 As a female, you shouldn't be sleeping around with a bunch of dudes. 1.00

02:42:01.140 If you do.

02:42:01.820 Why not?

02:42:02.280 If you do.

02:42:02.640 I'm not saying you can't.

02:42:03.580 I'm not saying you can't.

02:42:04.460 You legally can do it.

02:42:05.560 You can do.

02:42:05.960 I believe that a girl can do whatever she wants to do. 0.93

02:42:09.440 But don't expect.

02:42:10.480 You're saying sex doesn't feel as good to a woman as it does to a man?

02:42:14.660 What?

02:42:15.140 No, that's not at all what I'm saying.

02:42:16.820 Okay, because why can't girls have sex with just a statement of people if guys want to? 1.00

02:42:22.460 You can do whatever you want, but men, most men have an issue with women who are promiscuous 1.00

02:42:29.360 and who have been run through. 0.99

02:42:30.720 That really sucks for men, I guess. 0.99

02:42:31.440 Why does that suck for men? 0.98

02:42:32.800 It doesn't suck for us at all. 0.85

02:42:34.060 Not at all.

02:42:34.440 Because we can just find a woman that isn't promiscuous. 1.00

02:42:36.340 Okay, cool.

02:42:37.720 It's fine.

02:42:39.160 Well, so, I mean, this kind of touches into body count.

02:42:42.960 Well, so many men are extremely promiscuous.

02:42:46.100 Right. 0.64

02:42:46.480 So many.

02:42:47.220 A small minority of men.

02:42:48.440 A small proportion of men.

02:42:50.720 The ones that you want. 0.97

02:42:52.520 The dudes you're talking to, Lauren, a lot of the guys you're talking to are the promiscuous

02:42:57.440 guys because you're a hot girl here in Isla Vista talking to all the chads, all the frat 0.81

02:43:01.260 boys.

02:43:02.080 Guys you're talking to down in Cabo, these are the guys that are sleeping around with a lot

02:43:06.020 of girls.

02:43:06.880 A lot of the guys that you aren't paying attention to aren't doing that at all.

02:43:10.480 Most men are invisible to women. 0.90

02:43:14.120 Like the dude who works at McDonald's is invisible to you.

02:43:17.760 All of the guys who aren't cheating on their girlfriends are invisible to Lauren.

02:43:23.520 And what's on McDonald's too?

02:43:25.520 I saw a baddie working at Chipotle the other day.

02:43:28.300 Knock on.

02:43:28.640 Yeah, come on. 0.77

02:43:29.580 I bet you. 0.98

02:43:31.020 I would date a baddie. 0.87

02:43:34.460 Anyways, that's besides the point.

02:43:35.620 But that's a good point too that you're making about as men, like we're cool with that.

02:43:40.900 We're cool with that.

02:43:41.460 If you work at a fast food restaurant, but you're 18 to 20 years old, we're cool with that.

02:43:46.820 Like girls wouldn't give the time of day to a guy that's working at Chipotle. 0.88

02:43:50.120 Over 18, 20.

02:43:51.220 You're not cool with that.

02:43:52.800 No, no.

02:43:53.200 But what I'm saying is that that can be way more attractive than, than a girl that's in 0.96

02:43:57.240 her thirties and has an attorney.

02:43:58.720 Yeah.

02:43:59.120 It was an attorney and girls don't seem to wrap their heads around that. 1.00

02:44:03.520 Is it not like a girl with 30 in her...

02:44:05.140 Not...

02:44:05.520 No, no.

02:44:06.400 It's not...

02:44:06.920 It's not...

02:44:07.620 No.

02:44:08.120 A woman's career... 1.00

02:44:09.100 I don't want to date a high-powered attorney.

02:44:10.680 That girl seems badass to me. 1.00

02:44:11.180 Well, okay.

02:44:11.640 So a woman's career, a woman's ambition, a woman's money, it doesn't make you more attractive.

02:44:18.840 Yeah.

02:44:19.020 Whereas like a man who's hyper-successful, ambitious, he's a doctor, he has a prestigious

02:44:24.360 career, he's an attorney, for example, or he's say a musician or whatever it may be.

02:44:30.100 I think a lot of women would say, oh, a guy who's a doctor is a real catch.

02:44:33.860 But men, we don't really...

02:44:36.220 I guess it's a kind of okay bonus, like if you're making your own money, but like in

02:44:41.060 some ways it can actually be a detractor.

02:44:42.620 You don't think a woman who's a doctor is attractive? 1.00

02:44:46.440 She can be...

02:44:47.340 I mean, she can be...

02:44:48.080 The thing is, is that women don't share their resources the same way with men, the same 1.00

02:44:52.340 way that men share their resources with women.

02:44:55.180 So...

02:44:55.900 Also, a female doctor, if a woman's a doctor or if she's not a doctor, she's busy, it's 1.00

02:45:02.120 also not going to make her any more or less attractive to me. 1.00

02:45:04.660 I mean, I would honestly prefer a wife who isn't super tied up in a stressful career.

02:45:09.140 That's the last thing I want for my wife. 1.00

02:45:10.760 Do you guys prefer or are okay with like the stay-at-home mom idea?

02:45:15.380 I want that.

02:45:15.980 Or are you like...

02:45:16.520 That's a great thing.

02:45:17.260 Are you guys okay with that?

02:45:17.680 I want that.

02:45:18.040 Are you like...

02:45:18.600 No, we love that.

02:45:19.400 That's optimal.

02:45:20.000 ...spended by it because you think it's...

02:45:21.260 No, no, not at all.

02:45:22.460 Like a freeloader by it.

02:45:23.080 The opposite of that.

02:45:23.740 No, no.

02:45:24.080 We want that.

02:45:24.780 No, Tara, it's literally my goal to make enough money so that I can have my wife stop working, 1.00

02:45:30.340 take care of our home, take care of our kids, and be a good partner to me.

02:45:33.100 That's literally my goal.

02:45:34.840 Like that's like the most ideal thing.

02:45:36.780 I'm not even saying there's anything bad about that.

02:45:38.780 Like that's totally your preference.

02:45:41.660 I may be different a little bit.

02:45:43.040 No, it's not.

02:45:43.640 You also said earlier in the conversation you want a guy who's going to take good care of you.

02:45:47.520 Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

02:45:48.240 It's totally your preference.

02:45:49.240 I'm saying there's nothing bad about...

02:45:50.400 Isn't it your preference too?

02:45:52.300 What do you mean?

02:45:54.080 Don't you want that?

02:45:55.060 You said you want a guy who takes good care of you. 0.62

02:45:57.480 I want us to be equal.

02:45:58.440 Don't you want to be that?

02:45:59.400 I want to be equals.

02:46:00.940 Do you agree with that?

02:46:01.640 You would like prefer to work just as much as your husband as opposed to not working.

02:46:07.820 So you could be equal.

02:46:09.000 Yeah, I really like that's never...

02:46:10.780 I feel like it's been a big thing for me.

02:46:13.220 Okay, so you have two options.

02:46:14.900 One person worked more than the other.

02:46:16.240 But you have two options.

02:46:17.240 You have a guy who makes so much money that you would not have to work.

02:46:22.080 Or a guy who's got a job, a decent job, probably around the same as you.

02:46:26.540 But you both have to work to provide for your family.

02:46:28.780 I think as long as I love him and like...

02:46:31.440 But okay, which of the two would you prefer?

02:46:33.640 I don't have a preference.

02:46:35.160 You don't...

02:46:36.840 You introduce kids into the equation, you'll definitely have a preference.

02:46:39.380 I feel like there's a way...

02:46:40.060 There's a lot more to consider than just that.

02:46:42.440 I mean, maybe there's things you want to achieve career-wise.

02:46:44.880 I think that's fine.

02:46:45.880 But I think...

02:46:46.840 I mean, probably there's guys out there too that if a girl came along and was like,

02:46:51.060 you can be a stay-at-home dad and it wouldn't introduce...

02:46:54.700 The thing is, most women are not going to be attracted to that guy.

02:46:57.520 That's a different discussion, but...

02:46:59.300 I know.

02:47:00.200 I've heard of people where it's like, the woman is a doctor and the guy just literally

02:47:03.620 stays at home.

02:47:05.160 That's rare.

02:47:05.980 No, I mean...

02:47:06.960 Most women... 1.00

02:47:07.600 I would feel so emasculated in a situation like that.

02:47:09.920 Yeah, exactly.

02:47:10.900 That's your preference.

02:47:11.700 My wife wears the pants. 1.00

02:47:13.000 She also pegs me when she gets home from working.

02:47:15.420 That's how I imagine that.

02:47:16.920 But anyway, so that does exist.

02:47:20.200 It exists, but it's not...

02:47:21.760 It's super rare.

02:47:22.660 I mean, it's super rare.

02:47:23.640 And when it does exist, those are usually the relationships that don't...

02:47:26.620 They don't work out well.

02:47:27.440 The woman is going to be for sure controlling in that relationship. 1.00

02:47:30.880 Yeah.

02:47:31.420 Just quickly on this note, a guy who's a doctor would probably gladly date a woman who's

02:47:36.340 a barista, but who's attractive and meets his certain metrics.

02:47:39.420 But I'm sure that guy will be controlling.

02:47:41.540 Not necessarily.

02:47:42.240 That's such an assumption.

02:47:43.120 But let me just finish the point.

02:47:45.380 But a woman who's a doctor, while yes, there are some outliers, they might date a guy 1.00

02:47:49.200 who's a barista.

02:47:50.060 Most women who are doctors, most women who are, say, attorneys, very successful, hyper 0.99

02:47:55.180 successful women, they're going to want to date a guy who's at least on their level or 1.00

02:47:59.960 higher.

02:48:01.340 Yeah.

02:48:01.660 And that's what the studies show.

02:48:03.740 Girls, the higher... 1.00

02:48:05.480 The more money you make as a woman, the harder it is for you to find a life partner. 1.00

02:48:11.860 Because girls always need... 1.00

02:48:14.500 They strongly, strongly, strongly prefer someone who makes at least as much as them, if not

02:48:19.300 higher.

02:48:19.720 Yes.

02:48:19.900 So as a woman becomes more successful, the more money she makes, her actual pool of potential 1.00

02:48:26.600 partners shrinks.

02:48:27.520 It's smaller, not bigger.

02:48:28.380 Whereas men, as they become more successful, their pool widens and widens and widens.

02:48:34.360 So, yeah.

02:48:36.680 I have a question.

02:48:37.740 Sure.

02:48:37.980 So, do you guys believe in relationship roles?

02:48:41.340 Absolutely.

02:48:41.700 Do you think that each gender plays a role in their relationship and what is that role?

02:48:46.160 You want to take that?

02:48:47.700 Really quick, we will answer that.

02:48:49.460 Let me just get through these last couple of Super Chats here really quick and then... 1.00

02:48:52.620 Because we've got a big one, so I just want to shout out Frank Sestatia.

02:48:57.080 That's your question.

02:48:57.960 Frank Sestata.

02:48:59.880 Thank you for the big $25 Super Chat.

02:49:02.020 Hey, Brian, this is Frank, a new watcher.

02:49:03.520 Can't stop watching for like three weeks now.

02:49:05.480 Would like to see a Latina edition, ooh, voice crack, nice, or a Christian edition.

02:49:10.180 Well, if you tune in on the 27th, I believe, we have our friend Grace in the chat.

02:49:15.380 I think she's going to be coming on, I believe.

02:49:17.400 Let's go.

02:49:18.280 Next, is that next Thursday?

02:49:19.540 Yeah, next Thursday, Grace is coming on.

02:49:21.280 And then the Latina edition, stay tuned, I believe, Tuesday.

02:49:24.160 We got three Latinas coming. 0.99

02:49:28.280 Chola's coming back. 0.99

02:49:29.700 I shouldn't say that. 1.00

02:49:30.420 Well, I want to fuck. 1.00

02:49:31.420 Terry, you said you're religious. 1.00

02:49:32.620 Are you a Christian?

02:49:34.080 I'm more Catholic than Christian.

02:49:37.600 Basically the same thing.

02:49:38.460 But yeah, so I guess.

02:49:39.440 You should come for that episode on the 27th.

02:49:42.140 Sure.

02:49:42.880 We need to get some feisty girls too, though. 1.00

02:49:45.540 Yeah, we should get some like ultra-feminists for that one. 1.00

02:49:47.760 What is it?

02:49:48.500 What episode is it?

02:49:49.920 The Christian edition.

02:49:51.460 Oh, okay, okay.

02:49:52.000 Yeah, we've got Grace Olikowski coming in. 1.00

02:49:54.220 She's one of my followers.

02:49:55.340 We've been trying to set this up for a while.

02:49:56.740 But yeah, Frank, thank you for the big $25 Super Chat.

02:49:59.400 Thank you.

02:49:59.960 I think this is your first one, man.

02:50:01.020 So I really appreciate the support, man. 1.00

02:50:02.240 You're a fucking legend. 0.99

02:50:02.980 Thank you, Frank. 0.99

02:50:03.940 Appreciate you, Frank.

02:50:05.480 Thanks for supporting our boy.

02:50:07.240 Thank you, man.

02:50:08.560 Guys, I've been in the red for, I mean, I'm in the red.

02:50:11.080 So anyways, really, I genuinely appreciate when you guys Super Chat support, when you become

02:50:16.120 members.

02:50:16.540 If we can get one member tonight, you know, hook it up.

02:50:18.900 When are you starting your OnlyFans to pay the bills, Brian?

02:50:22.040 Guys, if I don't get, like, if we don't get some more membership, some more Super Chats,

02:50:26.060 like, I'm going to have to start an OnlyFans.

02:50:27.940 Kiki's going to have to peg me.

02:50:29.040 Like, it's going to be bad, guys.

02:50:30.800 It's going to be bad.

02:50:31.940 Please, guys, I don't want to be pegged.

02:50:33.460 Okay.

02:50:34.020 Dave Vaughn Jackson with the $10 Super Chat.

02:50:35.380 Imagine saying men aren't leaders while simultaneously arguing that women need to find themselves by 0.99

02:50:41.680 getting, Jesus Christ, bruv.

02:50:44.680 Eric, fix that.

02:50:46.740 Eric!

02:50:47.060 Eric!

02:50:48.040 I don't even know what to say.

02:50:48.840 Uh-oh.

02:50:51.280 Might be your computer.

02:50:53.040 Hold on, hold on.

02:50:53.800 Let me go.

02:50:54.360 We're having technical difficulties, folks.

02:50:58.120 Going back to the gender roles thing, though, do you, what were you going to say about that?

02:51:04.800 Yeah, well, I mean, biblically speaking, men are called to be protectors for their families,

02:51:09.660 providers for their families.

02:51:10.720 They're called to be the leaders for their families.

02:51:12.480 I think it makes the most sense from a role-based perspective and a complementarian perspective

02:51:17.740 if a man is being the provider and the protector and the leader for his family.

02:51:21.740 It's good for a woman to follow the man's lead. 1.00

02:51:24.820 It's good for a woman to be a good nurturer, caretaker for her husband and also for the kids. 1.00

02:51:30.320 Those are the roles I like.

02:51:31.560 You know, I think that's how families work the best.

02:51:33.640 And I think when there's tension and friction and people don't want to accept those roles,

02:51:37.000 both men and women, I think it causes family structures to break down, you know?

02:51:40.660 And there's a lot of dudes, let me just say, too, there's a lot of dudes that don't want to lead

02:51:44.560 and they don't want to lead effectively.

02:51:46.460 And I think it causes women a lot of stress, you know?

02:51:50.040 You know what I'm saying.

02:51:50.800 I know exactly what you're saying.

02:51:52.200 Yep.

02:51:52.740 Yeah.

02:51:53.360 Yo, Elder Scrolls, thank you for becoming a member, man.

02:51:55.640 You're a legend.

02:51:56.220 Thank you.

02:51:56.800 Really appreciate the support.

02:51:57.840 Let me get this last Super Chat here.

02:51:59.460 Jordan Huber with the $10 Super Chat.

02:52:01.100 By the way, guys, we are going to wrap up soon, so get your last-minute Super Chats in.

02:52:04.880 Become a member.

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02:52:07.520 Jordan, thank you for the $10 Super Chat.

02:52:08.940 Ladies, if you provide financial security, would you not want the man to make as much

02:52:13.160 or more?

02:52:14.300 Can he slum?

02:52:15.960 No.

02:52:16.500 No, that's why it doesn't work for women when it comes to status, because women want security. 1.00

02:52:20.900 Yep.

02:52:21.320 It's a fair point.

02:52:22.200 Good point, Jordan.

02:52:22.780 It's a good point.

02:52:24.160 Before we close out, I would be curious if we can get to your question.

02:52:27.860 No, we'll do.

02:52:28.520 We will.

02:52:29.480 Maybe we'll give another 10, 15 minutes, which will invariably.

02:52:33.240 That's a really good question.

02:52:34.580 I'm curious to hear what those two girls have to say.

02:52:36.660 Yeah, let me ... I think we got one last ... Kanye West, thank you for becoming a member.

02:52:46.160 The shit you've been saying recently has been kind of out of pocket, not going to lie. 0.98

02:52:50.580 I know that's not the real Kanye West, but ... 0.99

02:52:52.140 Kanye, don't stop.

02:52:53.080 Keep going.

02:52:53.600 Sorry.

02:52:54.000 Okay, so go ahead with your ... You had a question, right?

02:52:56.940 I did.

02:52:57.460 So my question was, do you believe in relationship roles, and what do you think they should be?

02:53:05.740 So, you know, I think one of the issues that a lot of people are having right now in relationships

02:53:11.020 is this sort of mentality, especially coming from girls, that they need to sort of compete 0.95

02:53:16.800 with the guy, I think.

02:53:18.080 And there's competition.

02:53:19.140 And this is where the sort of idea of respect comes into play, which is more like, we want

02:53:24.840 girls that see how hard we work and how much we want to do to make it work with them. 0.83

02:53:30.260 And when we don't feel that they're doing that, it causes lots of tension and lots of

02:53:35.700 competition.

02:53:36.840 So I tend to think that having roles sort of helps that.

02:53:42.080 What are the roles that you believe in?

02:53:43.620 Do you believe in roles?

02:53:44.260 Yeah, so I mean, I think that in general, I think that, you know, men going out and making

02:53:51.660 the money, this is what women want in men, is like, they want guys that earn lots of 0.99

02:53:55.940 money, right?

02:53:56.480 And they want girls that, I mean, they want guys that work out and work hard on themselves.

02:54:01.400 So I think it's fair to say that, like, they should have that role of, like, going out

02:54:06.360 and getting the bread, bringing it home.

02:54:09.220 But with that being said, if you're looking for that, like, you have to sort of play a more

02:54:12.620 feminine role in a relationship and be able to fit that because that's what we need. 1.00

02:54:17.480 I mean, that pushes us further.

02:54:19.060 Like, if we see that our girl is, like, giving us that support to go out, like, that is, that's

02:54:24.740 motivational.

02:54:25.760 That's motivational.

02:54:26.860 That pushes us to work harder.

02:54:28.880 Like, men will work really hard if we find a girl that's willing to, like, just support 0.71

02:54:33.760 us in what we're doing.

02:54:34.760 Be our cheerleader.

02:54:35.320 Yes.

02:54:35.840 Yeah.

02:54:36.380 Yes.

02:54:37.020 Yeah.

02:54:37.220 There's no better feeling than going out into the world, crushing, conquering as a man

02:54:41.060 and a woman just so deeply appreciating it.

02:54:44.160 I don't think women, like, understand how that feels as a man. 1.00

02:54:47.240 It feels amazing.

02:54:47.920 It's the best feeling you can have.

02:54:49.520 Yeah.

02:54:50.120 Really is.

02:54:50.560 It makes it all worth it.

02:54:52.240 Yeah.

02:54:52.720 So.

02:54:53.700 I will also say from, I know you guys aren't Christians, but from a biblical perspective,

02:54:57.080 the Bible tells us that a man who won't provide for his own family is worse than an unbeliever. 1.00

02:55:02.640 That's like the most dishonorable thing that a guy can do in God's eyes.

02:55:06.320 There's a lot of deadbeats out there that don't care about providing for their families. 0.99

02:55:10.600 And I think that's just, like, such a loser, lame thing, you know? 0.95

02:55:14.180 Like, it's such an honorable thing to be the hero, the champion that goes out there, provides

02:55:18.760 for your family, protects them, and is appreciated for that.

02:55:22.120 Yeah.

02:55:22.320 I think we need more hero culture.

02:55:24.380 Yes.

02:55:24.620 There's not a lot of hero culture.

02:55:26.140 And I think about that all the time.

02:55:27.140 Like, I'm looking for a Hercules, you know?

02:55:29.200 As you should.

02:55:29.840 Having that in culture inspires men and motivates men to be better and live up to their full potential

02:55:34.880 by giving men sex whenever they want, by having the lowest standards possible for guys.

02:55:40.760 That's helping no one.

02:55:41.740 It's certainly not letting them live up to their potential.

02:55:43.900 Wanting to be the breadwinner, all of this.

02:55:46.360 None of this is just good for our culture.

02:55:48.840 It's a great thing to want men to be, like, amazing, strong, brilliant, like, providers,

02:55:53.100 all of this.

02:55:53.480 That's a good thing.

02:55:54.040 You should be, like, loving it. 0.96

02:55:55.740 I want to speak on your point, giving sex to men whenever they want. 0.98

02:55:59.240 I want to hear what you guys think. 0.96

02:56:01.140 Wait, wait, wait.

02:56:01.680 Real quick, before we go to them, it's a good question.

02:56:04.700 To what you were saying, and to go back to what we were talking about before, women being 1.00

02:56:07.720 the gatekeepers of sex, as a woman, you should want a Hercules for a man. 1.00

02:56:12.520 I think every woman wants a Hercules for a man, a champion. 0.99

02:56:15.960 I think we do need to return to that hero culture.

02:56:18.400 And I can tell you.

02:56:19.640 What's up?

02:56:20.320 Even women who are mid? 1.00

02:56:22.500 Even women who are mid can have their mid Hercules. 1.00

02:56:25.520 Okay.

02:56:25.760 Okay.

02:56:26.400 Yeah, definitely.

02:56:26.860 But to what I was saying, as women, if you guys were like, yeah, no, I'm not going to

02:56:33.320 have sex with a guy unless he's the most honorable Hercules who wants to take care of me and wants

02:56:37.360 to be the man. 0.99

02:56:38.160 If you guys just, like, didn't have sex with losers, it would call all men up to become 0.98

02:56:43.680 that honorable Hercules hero champion. 0.98

02:56:45.860 And that, I so badly want to see a return to that.

02:56:50.780 What do you guys think about that?

02:56:52.060 Yeah?

02:56:52.460 Can we agree?

02:56:53.100 I think if you're not religious, you can go back to a primal state, right? 0.88

02:56:57.760 So you're going back to primal.

02:56:59.100 In nature, the male species, you know, whatever the species is, does naturally take on that

02:57:06.940 role.

02:57:07.440 Yep.

02:57:08.380 It doesn't matter.

02:57:09.480 Go back to cavemen. 0.93

02:57:10.880 Cavemen went out and women were home. 0.99

02:57:13.320 Yep.

02:57:15.340 Sorry to cut you off.

02:57:16.340 No, no, no.

02:57:16.820 No, no, that was good.

02:57:17.660 And so I'm curious to hear, because you made an interesting point, which is extremely rare 0.92

02:57:22.240 to hear from girls about giving sex to their man whenever he wants it. 0.92

02:57:27.620 Well, I meant, sorry, I meant not in a relationship. 0.90

02:57:30.800 I meant, like, giving sex to guys, like, who you meet at a bar, he's, like, barely even 0.98

02:57:35.440 bought you a drink and you give sex. 0.99

02:57:36.780 I meant that kind of, like, giving sex to me. 1.00

02:57:38.880 Oh, okay. 0.99

02:57:38.900 Well, okay.

02:57:39.420 I wasn't thinking, like, in a relationship.

02:57:40.900 Let's, okay, let's talk about in a relationship.

02:57:42.980 Okay.

02:57:43.660 In a relationship, when, when girl, when girls, uh, deny guys of sex.

02:57:50.440 Thoughts?

02:57:52.220 I mean, I don't really know.

02:57:53.580 I don't, I don't really know when that would, I guess, like.

02:57:58.500 Because that happens to many guys.

02:58:00.020 You mean, like, your partner initiates and then.

02:58:02.200 They reject it.

02:58:03.220 And girls say, I'm not in the mood. 0.95

02:58:07.640 Like, what, what do you expect the guy to do in that situation?

02:58:09.920 Yeah, I mean, I know, ideally, you're with someone where that doesn't really happen.

02:58:15.600 You know, if you're starting to get, like, not in the mood with your partner, maybe, you

02:58:18.780 know, you need to, like, amp up your energy levels, drink more maca powder or something,

02:58:22.320 you know, get more sunlight, I don't know.

02:58:23.720 But also, I, I mean, I don't, I'm not going to say, like, a woman should never, like, it's 0.97

02:58:28.640 not that, like, a woman should never deny a guy, but just, I don't know, you know, you

02:58:31.720 never, you always want it to have a balance.

02:58:33.320 It's, it's really important that your partner doesn't feel, like, sexually invalidated.

02:58:37.000 Like, they initiate it, it's important that they, yeah, I mean, it's a sensitive subject.

02:58:43.700 I, I'm a firm believer that if, like, once sex is out of the relationship, like, the

02:58:47.200 relationship's dead.

02:58:48.100 So, like, yeah, sex needs it to, like, survive.

02:58:50.840 And so, yeah, that's something you just, like, need to be paying attention to.

02:58:54.140 It's true.

02:58:54.580 I don't know if that answers it.

02:58:55.320 I haven't really thought much about that.

02:58:57.040 So, that's all I have off of, like, the top of my head.

02:58:58.840 Yeah, well, it's a common thing in relationships.

02:59:00.380 I think a lot of guys out there experience this, where they, they, they don't, they're

02:59:06.300 not able to have sex with their girl anymore. 0.53

02:59:07.920 So, what do you, what do you guys think about it? 0.99

02:59:10.640 What about a guy not being able to have sex with their girl? 0.80

02:59:13.940 Yeah, like, the girl, like, rejecting them. 0.69

02:59:15.720 In a relationship?

02:59:16.440 Yeah.

02:59:17.860 Is that cool or not?

02:59:19.100 I mean, I know in a relationship I've had, like, I wanted to have sex a lot, and I didn't

02:59:25.140 want to do that.

02:59:26.020 And it was, like, the need for him to have sex was attached to some other insecurity from

02:59:31.020 a previous relationship that didn't even have anything to do with me.

02:59:35.040 So, yeah, it's kind of my take on it.

02:59:42.300 Okay.

02:59:43.700 Let me hit some super chats real quick.

02:59:45.620 We got a great one from Mike Davis.

02:59:47.780 We got Mike Davis with the big $20 hoop chat.

02:59:49.820 Before we close up, this is for Liv.

02:59:51.180 No matter what men you've met in the past, no matter what you've seen or think you know,

02:59:56.280 you have met the top G, and I can show you a universe you didn't know existed.

03:00:01.520 Has he slid into your DMs yet?

03:00:03.540 Not yet, no.

03:00:04.380 I think, okay.

03:00:05.520 Mike.

03:00:05.980 He's so mysterious.

03:00:07.280 He'll throw this out, but he never reaches out to me.

03:00:10.280 You know what, though?

03:00:11.600 He dropped, was it two shows ago that he dropped the-

03:00:14.880 It was the last show.

03:00:15.700 It was last Tuesday.

03:00:16.700 He dropped $100 hoop chat for the fit check.

03:00:19.000 Guys, if you want the fit check on Liv, it's there.

03:00:22.800 Okay.

03:00:23.280 Mike Davis, thanks for the support, man.

03:00:24.840 Really appreciate it.

03:00:26.120 Okay.

03:00:26.520 So, we're going to watch one video, and then we'll have one more final question,

03:00:31.260 and then we're going to wrap up.

03:00:32.360 I want to talk about this today, just because we talk about it almost every time, but we've got to do it.

03:00:41.260 Okay.

03:00:41.540 Should body count matter?

03:00:43.260 Yes or no?

03:00:44.100 I don't know.

03:00:52.240 I feel like I don't really have an opinion on that.

03:00:54.860 Okay.

03:00:55.040 Do you take issue with men caring about a woman's body count?

03:00:58.060 Um, I don't know.

03:01:05.160 I feel like it really, I don't know.

03:01:07.100 We'll come back to you.

03:01:07.840 Liv, go ahead.

03:01:08.660 We'll move it this way.

03:01:09.740 Okay.

03:01:10.400 Um, for girls, I mean, as far as should body count matter, I'm always going to say the same thing,

03:01:17.460 and I think it's always going to be, for a guy, it's his preference, um, and for a girl, it's our preference as well.

03:01:25.220 So, okay.

03:01:26.520 Yeah.

03:01:27.060 I'm going to say no, it shouldn't matter for either side.

03:01:29.960 When you take body count into consideration, you are then opening up your past, right, and people get fixated on that,

03:01:39.360 and you can actually kill a relationship before it even starts, just with a body count.

03:01:44.360 I mean, you can't, you can kill a relationship before it even starts.

03:01:50.540 You're definitely free to have that.

03:01:53.980 So, your stance is body count should not matter.

03:01:56.760 No.

03:01:57.040 Okay.

03:01:57.300 Exactly.

03:01:57.880 So that way you're not stuck in the past.

03:01:59.500 Sure.

03:02:00.860 I think body count can matter so much as it isn't like an indicator of someone's relationship with sex,

03:02:08.920 sex, and relationships, um, yeah.

03:02:14.720 But I guess there's always more to the picture, but it's a helpful indicator.

03:02:19.540 Would you take an issue with a guy, for example, not wanting to date a woman who had a high body count?

03:02:26.180 Um, no.

03:02:27.220 I mean, I don't really take issue with that.

03:02:28.520 I would only take issue with things that are related, like, to me.

03:02:30.760 Like, I don't know.

03:02:31.580 I don't know.

03:02:31.900 I don't have that much, like, strong opinions, though, in general, of how other people make their beginning decisions.

03:02:37.220 So, yes or no?

03:02:38.460 Should body count matter?

03:02:40.360 Um, I mean, yeah, to an extent.

03:02:44.420 If it's, like, 100, that's, like, red flag.

03:02:46.980 Okay.

03:02:47.960 I would say no.

03:02:49.220 I try to be as judgmental as possible, as long as we're both keeping each other safe.

03:02:54.260 Um, you mean as, as non-judgmental as possible?

03:02:58.080 Yes.

03:02:58.580 Gotcha.

03:02:59.080 As non-judgmental as possible.

03:03:01.260 Um, and if it comes up, then, like, yeah, it might be an issue.

03:03:05.520 But if we're both being safe about it, I don't need to know unless it, like, affects us in the moment.

03:03:13.800 I think, for me, the reason why my answer is more I don't know is because, to be honest, it's really not something I care, ask about.

03:03:20.400 So, and I find it pretty offensive when someone asks me about that.

03:03:27.100 You think it's offensive?

03:03:28.800 Yeah.

03:03:29.000 If someone were to ask what your body count is?

03:03:31.600 Yeah, I really just, like, that's not something that I personally, something I really care or, like, care to ask about.

03:03:38.920 So, if a guy had slept with, like, 350 women, would you care?

03:03:41.840 But the thing is, it's, like, I really just, I don't care to ask about that.

03:03:45.000 There's many other things I care about, and their body count's really not one of them.

03:03:48.580 So, in terms of asking, I do think it's poor taste.

03:03:51.680 Like, if a guy's, like, what's your body count?

03:03:53.580 Because, for one, I don't think it's that, like, appropriate to, like, talk about your, like, past sex lives in, like, super detail if you're, like, just starting to see someone.

03:04:01.980 But, also, I don't know.

03:04:03.520 So, not a first date question?

03:04:04.700 Yeah, I guess it's not a first date question if you're going to, like, open up about it.

03:04:07.880 But if it's a deal breaker for someone, like, why not just get it out of the way?

03:04:10.880 If that's, like, a genuine deal breaker, might as well.

03:04:12.740 If it's a deal breaker, yeah, I mean, that's important for, like, you to know, too.

03:04:15.560 Also, it's not hard to tell.

03:04:17.000 It's not hard to tell when girls have high body counts. 1.00

03:04:19.800 It's very apparent.

03:04:21.020 That's one thing about girls when we go, yeah, when you go out on a date with a girl, it's very apparent. 0.70

03:04:29.000 Like, if they're talking about clubbing and traveling and doing all this stuff, I mean, that's just the reality.

03:04:33.800 That's the reality.

03:04:34.740 We go to clubs and we don't sleep with people every time we go out.

03:04:39.100 But you can get a sense.

03:04:40.740 So, how is going out going to clubs indicative of a high body count?

03:04:42.500 I'm saying you don't have to ask the question to kind of get an idea as a guy.

03:04:46.380 I mean, you just start picking it up.

03:04:47.720 One last thing.

03:04:48.700 I also just sort of look, like, I don't think negatively of a guy if he asks it, but it's more just like I associate it with younger guys.

03:04:55.940 I've never had any guy who was older that I was seeing ever ask, like, what's your body count?

03:05:01.300 Like, what's your body count?

03:05:02.040 I've only ever had it be younger guys.

03:05:04.120 So, I don't know if that's just, like, older guys could tell that girls are uncomfortable when they ask.

03:05:10.160 But that's also just, so it's just in general a question I associate with older guys.

03:05:13.040 I would never ask.

03:05:14.240 I would never ask.

03:05:15.120 I think it's very obvious.

03:05:16.920 I think it's obvious.

03:05:17.980 I feel like why ask if people can lie?

03:05:20.460 Girls are going to give it away. 1.00

03:05:21.680 Yeah.

03:05:22.100 That's true.

03:05:22.840 Yeah.

03:05:23.760 Yeah.

03:05:24.060 I mean, always trust people's actions over the words in the first place.

03:05:26.420 Okay.

03:05:26.860 So, you two and you, body count shouldn't matter.

03:05:30.760 Thus, the question is, what is your body count?

03:05:34.800 If body count doesn't matter.

03:05:36.460 I would say that on a public comment.

03:05:38.260 But, okay, you just said body count doesn't matter.

03:05:40.980 I think it doesn't matter.

03:05:42.260 Okay, hold on.

03:05:43.020 We'll come back to you, too.

03:05:43.960 What's your body count?

03:05:44.560 So, I'm not going to answer, and it's because it goes back to my point that it dredges up

03:05:49.340 history.

03:05:50.080 That's history.

03:05:51.260 It's no longer valid in my life.

03:05:53.600 It's no longer something that I am continuously, you know, seeking.

03:05:58.760 I'm not sleeping around.

03:06:00.160 I'm not, you know, obviously going out and having sex with every person I run into.

03:06:06.820 So, I feel like the conversation should be more about what are your morals and what are

03:06:11.840 you doing now versus what did you do when you were 18, 19, 20 years old, you know?

03:06:19.460 So, past shouldn't matter?

03:06:21.440 I don't think your past should matter.

03:06:22.800 I think what you're doing now and your mentality now and what you're moving forward with is

03:06:27.780 what matters. 0.72

03:06:28.700 So, you had previously date a guy who slept with prostitutes? 0.78

03:06:31.580 Yeah, I did, and I found out after. 0.79

03:06:33.640 Okay.

03:06:34.440 Did you not like it?

03:06:36.420 He wasn't doing it while I was with him.

03:06:39.700 So, I mean, it's not my business.

03:06:42.880 It was in his past.

03:06:44.100 That's the difference between girls and guys. 0.99

03:06:46.260 Yeah, I'm not going to judge someone for a decision they made 10 years ago. 0.99

03:06:49.920 That's ridiculous. 0.93

03:06:50.480 And a lot of us do, though. 0.97

03:06:52.520 Exactly.

03:06:53.180 Yeah, yeah.

03:06:55.520 Did you want to continue with your question, Brian?

03:06:58.320 Yeah, I mean, would you date a guy who has a criminal history?

03:07:01.140 I have.

03:07:02.380 You have, but would...

03:07:04.520 Would I do it now?

03:07:05.860 Sure.

03:07:07.400 I mean, it's a red flag, so I would have to do a lot of digging.

03:07:11.680 They wouldn't be at the top of my prospect list.

03:07:14.500 But there's nothing in a guy's past that would preclude you from wanting to date him?

03:07:19.180 I mean, they can't commit murder.

03:07:21.260 They can't do anything with kids, and they can't be a sex offender.

03:07:23.180 But it's in his past.

03:07:24.580 It's in his past, right?

03:07:26.340 Yeah, but you're talking about criminal acts versus sleeping around with women. 0.95

03:07:31.340 That's a very different conversation.

03:07:34.280 Yeah, but... 0.70

03:07:34.740 I think sex to, like, murder is, like, a little...

03:07:37.500 It's a little outlandish. 0.97

03:07:40.580 Haram.

03:07:41.200 It's...

03:07:41.400 No, okay.

03:07:43.160 Okay, so do you guys want to answer the question?

03:07:47.020 About...

03:07:48.180 I definitely kind of agree with her.

03:07:50.280 If it's not affecting what's going on in the moment, I don't need to know your history.

03:07:56.080 Yeah.

03:07:57.520 I think when it comes to criminal backgrounds, for me, that kind of does maybe speak a little

03:08:02.580 bit about that person's personality, values, morals, and, I mean...

03:08:08.820 Okay, so you don't want to share your body count.

03:08:10.940 You just said body count shouldn't matter.

03:08:12.420 Oh, no, we're talking about dating someone with a criminal history.

03:08:15.020 Well, we'll come back to that, but what's your body count?

03:08:18.400 Yeah, I'm not going to disclose that.

03:08:21.740 Okay, I mean, that's fine, but you said body count shouldn't matter.

03:08:25.380 What about you?

03:08:26.020 Yeah, I don't think it matters unless it's infecting what's going on.

03:08:29.800 Tara?

03:08:30.940 It's Tara.

03:08:31.720 It's Tara, by the way.

03:08:32.800 Oh, my God, Tara.

03:08:33.280 How dare you, Brian?

03:08:35.140 She's like, how many people do that I've been on?

03:08:37.820 Can I ask something?

03:08:40.000 I've been, like, thought about it.

03:08:40.960 I'm trying to figure out, like, what is the male equivalent to making...

03:08:43.880 Since guys consider body count so, so, so important to girls, asking them to, like, say it on air, what is the equivalent of that? 0.53

03:08:50.560 Is it maybe asking guys on the show to say, like, exactly how much money they've made this past year and have in their account?

03:08:57.120 Is that, like, an equivalent?

03:08:59.080 Because, like, I'm just trying to figure out what the equivalent is because...

03:09:02.880 I don't know.

03:09:04.240 You guys are the women.

03:09:05.280 What do you think?

03:09:05.860 Because, I mean, you guys are telling us you care so much about body count, and then, you know, Brian goes and, like, say it in front of everyone on the internet.

03:09:12.880 So, what's something that we all think we care a lot about that we should ask them to share on air?

03:09:20.840 That's a good question.

03:09:21.820 Being completely honest about it.

03:09:22.540 You guys should find an answer.

03:09:23.900 I mean, one proposition I have is the money one because, you know, if we look at, like, psychotic mating research, it shows that almost in every country in the world, men's top priority is, well, physical attractiveness.

03:09:37.680 Sexual purity.

03:09:38.220 Yeah, and, you know, in some places that.

03:09:40.460 And then, for women, it's their material resources. 1.00

03:09:44.280 So, yeah.

03:09:45.420 What was your guys' tax return last year?

03:09:47.280 So, here's how we'll do this.

03:09:50.220 Whatever your guys' question is that you decide on, I'll answer it, as long as it's a fair equivalent.

03:09:57.200 I mean, I don't care.

03:09:58.000 You guys don't.

03:09:58.560 I don't want to shoot mine.

03:09:59.540 I can't speak for them, but if they answer it, I think it would be fair for you guys to answer the body count question.

03:10:07.220 First.

03:10:09.020 I give you my word.

03:10:10.260 I will answer it.

03:10:11.400 I mean, I'm not dying.

03:10:12.440 I don't need you guys to disclose your financial information.

03:10:15.520 So, I don't care.

03:10:16.180 But it's what I'm saying.

03:10:17.200 I'm not going to make you do that.

03:10:18.140 Didn't you answer it on the last podcast?

03:10:20.160 I did, yeah.

03:10:21.380 So, if you want, go watch that one.

03:10:23.240 Give it a like, another view.

03:10:24.800 Just throwing this out, too.

03:10:26.160 This is sort of a common saying, though.

03:10:27.980 So, women care about where a man's going, like his future. 1.00

03:10:31.480 And men care about a woman's past. 0.74

03:10:34.160 Bingo.

03:10:34.700 That's a good way to sum it up.

03:10:35.440 Bingo.

03:10:36.400 That's it.

03:10:36.960 That's all that matters.

03:10:37.860 That's why we care.

03:10:38.640 You guys don't care about the past.

03:10:41.200 You know?

03:10:42.100 But your future?

03:10:42.620 Women do care, though. 1.00

03:10:43.400 It's a deal breaker.

03:10:44.500 About a man's past?

03:10:45.740 About where the guy works, what's his job, what's his salary, has he been married before,

03:10:51.820 his past criminal history, does he have kids with other women, did he used to be, well,

03:10:57.580 I'm not going to say it.

03:10:58.140 Hold on.

03:10:58.380 I got a list here.

03:10:59.300 Yeah.

03:10:59.420 You know, has he had 10 jobs in the last three years?

03:11:04.620 Has he been evicted from apartments, his debt?

03:11:07.440 Yeah.

03:11:07.580 All these sorts of things.

03:11:08.760 Like, women probably have a vested interest in this as far as for a long-term partner. 1.00

03:11:13.760 Right. 0.97

03:11:13.900 I mean, I brought up the, he used to have sex with the prostitutes thing. 0.96

03:11:19.600 I mean, you answered that. 0.90

03:11:20.860 I don't know if you guys want to come in, if you'd be okay dating a guy who used to sleep 0.98

03:11:24.260 with escorts or prostitutes. 0.95

03:11:25.880 You don't need to look at her before you answer, by the way.

03:11:31.720 You can just answer the question.

03:11:36.300 Please, you got to speak into the microphone.

03:11:38.860 I just really don't know how that would even come up.

03:11:41.980 Forget about how it comes up.

03:11:43.580 It came up. 0.99

03:11:44.720 He slept with prostitutes. 0.99

03:11:46.020 Do you care? 1.00

03:11:46.420 I mean, I would have to say yes.

03:11:48.780 I would care.

03:11:50.580 Yeah, I would care.

03:11:51.520 That might be a little gross, but... 0.91

03:11:53.900 And it's gross when women have a high body count. 1.00

03:11:57.740 Fair. 0.85

03:11:58.880 Thank you. 0.80

03:12:01.300 I just think it's gross when a guy sleeps with a prostitute, personally, but I don't 1.00

03:12:05.980 really care as much about the high body count. 0.59

03:12:09.260 That has nothing to do with that.

03:12:10.320 But if the prostitute sleeps with multiple guys, he's basically taking on her plus... 0.99

03:12:16.420 Her body count. 0.99

03:12:17.700 If it's a prostitute... 1.00

03:12:19.080 If a woman slept with a bunch of dudes, she's taking on the body counts of the guys. 1.00

03:12:24.080 No, I know.

03:12:24.700 It's double standard, but I was just saying...

03:12:25.800 And vice versa.

03:12:26.820 I mean, the guys do.

03:12:27.980 Yeah. 0.99

03:12:29.000 I think it's totally justified if you guys care if you guys slept with prostitutes. 0.99

03:12:34.120 Absolutely. 0.78

03:12:34.820 Just like I think it's justified for us to care about body count.

03:12:39.000 I'm not saying it's not justified.

03:12:41.760 Imagine it...

03:12:42.460 I just thought about this real quick, but imagine if...

03:12:44.560 Imagine if a guy was in love with like 20 different women.

03:12:49.720 Would that be a little bit of a red flag to you?

03:12:52.340 A hundred percent.

03:12:53.200 Because that's what you...

03:12:54.140 Right?

03:12:54.500 Because that's what girls vow. 1.00

03:12:55.680 You want him to love you and you only.

03:12:58.260 Right?

03:12:58.940 It's...

03:12:59.380 That's the...

03:13:00.000 I think that's the equivalent a little bit.

03:13:01.820 Yeah.

03:13:01.960 Like if he has like 20 different kids, like 20 baby moms or something.

03:13:05.880 Yeah.

03:13:06.100 Or here, maybe this is a good example.

03:13:08.620 A guy who is spending money, not sleeping with her, but spending money on another woman.

03:13:16.840 Let's say her only fans.

03:13:18.580 If it's not alimony, then that should not be happening.

03:13:23.760 Word.

03:13:24.800 All right.

03:13:26.400 We got to pull up a take clip, guys.

03:13:29.480 All right.

03:13:29.740 Eric, can you pull up the take clip?

03:13:32.000 Um, just, uh, the body count one.

03:13:39.220 Or should we do it?

03:13:39.800 You know what's so attractive about younger women? 1.00

03:13:41.440 Because a lot of these dudes talk about fertility and looks and stuff. 0.97

03:13:45.060 I don't actually think it's that.

03:13:46.340 I think that in the modern world, in the days of old, right?

03:13:49.680 You'd meet a woman, you'd get married, you'd be together, whatever. 0.99

03:13:51.440 In the modern world, if I meet a girl who's 33 and single, I know the amount of dick that's been through her before me is just simply unattractive. 0.99

03:13:58.820 I don't care how nice you are, but you're 33 years old. 1.00

03:14:01.660 How many men have fucked? 0.99

03:14:03.000 If I get a 19-year-old girl, I might be her second or third man, right? 1.00

03:14:05.520 I'm going to be dude number fucking 29? 0.99

03:14:07.620 And all the trauma and heartbreak and bullshit they put you through, you're going to try and bring to my door? 1.00

03:14:12.800 Like, well, if my last man cheat, I don't give a fuck. 1.00

03:14:15.500 Like, I don't care. 0.99

03:14:16.520 Like, why is that my problem?

03:14:17.600 So, if you pick up older women, you have to accept they've been on the carousel longer. 0.99

03:14:21.440 They've had more fucking rides, more spins. 1.00

03:14:24.180 I don't want that shit. 1.00

03:14:25.400 And when I see a beautiful young woman, I know that she has a very low body count. 1.00

03:14:28.540 And also, no, but the truth is this, women's mentality is absolutely connected to sex. 1.00

03:14:34.740 If a woman sleeps with a bunch of men, it's harder to penetrate her mind and make her fall in love with you. 1.00

03:14:38.420 It is unattractive, too.

03:14:39.640 And it's unattractive.

03:14:40.340 But if she's had 30 dudes inside of her, is she really going to think, you know what, this guy's so, so, so special?

03:14:45.760 Or is she going to think, you know what, he talked to me real quick, I'll just go get a new guy?

03:14:47.900 Whereas if a woman's only been with a few guys, she's much more likely to fall in love with you and be a better partner. 0.96

03:14:51.280 So, the likelihood of her falling completely in love with you and staying loyal to you and really believing you're the only man for her,

03:14:56.860 after being through so much trauma and so many men and sleeping with so many dudes and having her heart broken

03:15:01.420 and having those memories of her ex and all that crap she's been through

03:15:04.180 is far less likely than meeting a nice, young, beautiful girl who hasn't been with many men.

03:15:07.960 And she goes, you know what, this is the guy, I like him.

03:15:10.280 Every woman who knows this and every man who watches this can be honest.

03:15:12.460 Women fall in love with the person they lose their virginity to or the second or third guy. 0.95

03:15:15.200 They really remember them.

03:15:16.040 They really love them.

03:15:16.920 Any woman who slept with 50 dudes, she doesn't even remember who most of them are. 0.96

03:15:19.140 She doesn't care.

03:15:19.900 If a woman slept with a bunch of men before you, she's less likely to stick it out through a difficult period in a relationship. 1.00

03:15:23.740 She's more likely to just say, you know what, new answers, new dig.

03:15:25.740 That's a pretty good answer.

03:15:26.780 And that's the truth.

03:15:27.640 Let me make something clear.

03:15:28.560 If I meet a beautiful 30-year-old woman, I'm not saying I won't sleep with her. 0.99

03:15:31.020 That's pretty fucking old. 0.99

03:15:32.700 30? 0.99

03:15:33.420 I know. 1.00

03:15:33.880 What are you, crazy? 1.00

03:15:35.580 There's been times I was drunk. 1.00

03:15:37.660 Your immediate reaction to the video, go.

03:15:40.940 Oh, um.

03:15:45.060 I'm thinking, is that why older men want younger girls?

03:15:48.480 Exactly.

03:15:48.860 Yes.

03:15:49.380 Yep.

03:15:49.880 That's exactly it.

03:15:50.840 One of the reasons, anyways.

03:15:52.000 Yes.

03:15:52.260 They're less jaded.

03:15:53.660 Less jaded, more fertile, less emotional baggage, lower body count, all that stuff.

03:16:00.040 More physically attractive.

03:16:01.400 Yeah.

03:16:04.460 Your reaction to the video?

03:16:06.560 Oh, okay.

03:16:07.320 Yeah.

03:16:07.780 I get that.

03:16:09.620 I mean, I don't get that.

03:16:11.400 I mean, to be honest, I'm just not trying to argue right now.

03:16:15.400 Do it.

03:16:15.900 I don't get that because I'm not a man.

03:16:18.000 We love it.

03:16:18.580 We love it when you argue.

03:16:19.640 Am I argumentative or something?

03:16:21.720 No, we love it.

03:16:22.760 Argue.

03:16:23.400 It's good content.

03:16:24.440 We want you.

03:16:25.680 This is a safe space for you to argue.

03:16:29.300 You can argue with us.

03:16:30.440 I don't know how argumentative I am.

03:16:32.500 But.

03:16:33.080 Yeah, you're fine.

03:16:33.760 You're fine.

03:16:34.120 Anyway.

03:16:35.380 Yeah.

03:16:35.860 I mean, I guess, like, I'm not a man.

03:16:38.220 And, like, I don't.

03:16:39.020 Personally, like.

03:16:39.780 You're not?

03:16:41.200 No.

03:16:42.300 I guess, like, guys can think how they want to think.

03:16:44.440 They're like, oh, girls are so jaded. 0.99

03:16:46.000 And they have their high body counts when they're older.

03:16:50.600 I don't know.

03:16:53.980 I just really don't have anything to say on that.

03:16:57.420 Lauren was too busy reading the chat.

03:16:59.520 Yeah.

03:16:59.840 No.

03:16:59.980 She didn't even listen to the video, guys.

03:17:02.080 Okay.

03:17:02.700 Didn't even.

03:17:03.520 Do you want to give a reaction?

03:17:04.940 No.

03:17:05.560 Okay.

03:17:06.180 Go ahead.

03:17:07.560 I.

03:17:08.360 We saw another Tate one last time I was on.

03:17:11.800 So that was.

03:17:13.160 That had my thoughts on it.

03:17:15.380 But.

03:17:15.780 Yeah.

03:17:16.120 Fresh.

03:17:16.640 Fresh.

03:17:16.980 Fresh thoughts.

03:17:17.660 Okay.

03:17:19.340 Based on what he said there.

03:17:21.480 Did it make sense to you?

03:17:22.740 Do you disagree with it?

03:17:25.880 Yeah.

03:17:26.300 I mean, I guess it's not something I'd, like, necessarily heard before.

03:17:28.700 Like, preferring a younger girl because it means she's been with less guys.

03:17:32.720 Really, I didn't really realize until, like, very recently how much guys.

03:17:36.600 I care about body count.

03:17:39.460 And I'm assuming, like, other girls must not have either because otherwise, why would 0.99

03:17:43.560 we have, like, young girls, like, thinking it's a flex to have a really high body count?

03:17:47.920 So I think, like, there's just such, like, it's strange how there's so much, like, miscommunication

03:17:53.100 between guys and girls.

03:17:54.580 What girls think guys care about is just not on the point, like, whatsoever. 0.97

03:18:00.380 Yeah.

03:18:01.300 Yeah.

03:18:01.560 No kidding.

03:18:02.440 Yeah.

03:18:02.680 Like, literally, like, no clue.

03:18:04.900 I would say, Tara, I would say less than 15% of girls realize how much body count matters 1.00

03:18:09.600 to guys, if even.

03:18:12.180 Yeah.

03:18:12.600 Yeah.

03:18:12.860 And I think a lot of it has less to do with miscommunication and more just, like, how much

03:18:18.800 social programming there is with, like, hey, you know, sleep through your 20s.

03:18:22.260 Because I'm like, who is, who exactly is telling, like, where is this message coming from that

03:18:28.520 girls are in, like, it's empowering for girls to sleep with a lot of guys, but it makes it 1.00

03:18:33.420 harder to find a more valuable life partner.

03:18:36.280 And it makes it harder to find, if girls, if the stereotype is girls always want a boyfriend,

03:18:40.880 why is the culture encouraging them to do more and more of the, literally the exact

03:18:45.260 opposite way to find a boyfriend? 0.99

03:18:46.420 That's a great question, Tara.

03:18:47.760 I'm not sure where it's coming from, but all I know is that we need some more, like,

03:18:53.120 female advocates out there. 1.00

03:18:54.880 Yes.

03:18:55.160 Just warning girls, at least, of, like, the possible cons of hookup culture will have. 1.00

03:18:59.140 You should be one of them.

03:19:00.380 You should be one of them.

03:19:01.320 You should be one of them.

03:19:01.820 I'll get that TikTok going.

03:19:03.400 I'll do it.

03:19:03.880 Let's go.

03:19:05.000 Also, Just Pearly Things on YouTube, highly recommend her.

03:19:08.240 Yeah, she's good.

03:19:09.020 Yeah, she's great.

03:19:11.220 Your reaction to Andrew Tate?

03:19:12.900 My reaction to the video.

03:19:14.280 Is that your first time seeing Andrew Tate, by the way?

03:19:15.980 No, I've seen him before on Instagram.

03:19:18.200 Would you date Andrew Tate?

03:19:19.220 No.

03:19:19.700 Wait, real quick on this.

03:19:20.580 Would you date Andrew Tate?

03:19:22.360 No.

03:19:24.600 No.

03:19:25.420 Come on.

03:19:26.000 Okay.

03:19:26.780 All right.

03:19:27.820 Well, not for that, just for, yeah, like.

03:19:31.300 Okay, whatever.

03:19:31.920 Go ahead.

03:19:32.200 So there are a couple things in the video.

03:19:33.860 So I understand what he's saying about, you know, the body count, and when they're younger,

03:19:39.200 they're less jaded.

03:19:40.060 I get all of those things.

03:19:41.500 Oh, the problem I had with what he said was that younger women will easier fall in love

03:19:52.020 with you.

03:19:52.700 So essentially, what he said there is younger women are easier to manipulate. 1.00

03:19:57.820 Wow.

03:19:58.060 That's one way to take it.

03:20:00.900 Taking it in the worst possible way.

03:20:02.800 Well, you're talking to a 22-year-old who dated an older guy.

03:20:06.980 He was 35.

03:20:09.000 What a chance.

03:20:11.340 Do you feel like he manipulated you?

03:20:13.540 Yeah, absolutely.

03:20:14.460 I feel like I was manipulated to think that, hey, he's older.

03:20:18.040 He has this stature.

03:20:19.660 He wants these certain things.

03:20:21.320 He says he wants a family like I do.

03:20:23.440 He says all these things, right?

03:20:24.960 And me, 22, being immature, is like, yeah, let's get on board.

03:20:29.340 That's what I want, too.

03:20:30.220 And then he's not those things. 0.98

03:20:33.440 Yeah, that was fucked up for him to do that. 0.94

03:20:35.380 But there's a lot of guys that do do that, that date younger to manipulate. 0.99

03:20:40.180 They do.

03:20:40.800 And so that is a red flag for me from that video.

03:20:46.280 Is it my turn now?

03:20:47.440 Yes.

03:20:47.820 Okay.

03:20:50.000 I've said it before.

03:20:51.280 I think that it is very, a lot of people do think that the younger you are, the less

03:20:57.920 body count you have, and the older you are, the more you've slept around.

03:21:01.380 But going back to what I've said in previous podcasts, hookup culture for somebody in their

03:21:10.060 30s, back when they were in their, like, 20s, teens, was so much different than for us

03:21:16.500 now, where, you know, relationships now in my age range, younger, early 20s, teens, is

03:21:26.460 a lot less normal now, I would say.

03:21:32.220 Like, there's a lot more hookup culture within my age range than there is, like, serious,

03:21:35.780 serious relationships.

03:21:37.300 Whereas people who are in their 30s now and were in their teens and 20s then, relationships

03:21:45.080 were a lot more, you know, easy.

03:21:48.000 Like, they had, there's a lot more.

03:21:49.660 So, that plays into it, and at the same time, it's like, you could meet a woman in her 30s

03:21:57.040 who has been married, had a high school sweetheart for years, and then just became recently single,

03:22:03.640 and then you can meet a 20-year-old, whatever, who has a body count higher than the woman who

03:22:09.460 is 30 who's had years to rack up a body count.

03:22:12.960 So, it really just comes into the background.

03:22:16.020 What's your main point?

03:22:17.120 Like, what's your main point with that?

03:22:18.460 Basically saying, like, just because a girl is younger and a woman is older doesn't mean

03:22:23.600 that one's body count is going to be, like, just because she's 30, she's going to have 1.00

03:22:27.740 a huge body count.

03:22:28.680 But the thing is that typically, the older the girl, like, when she reaches her 30s, typically

03:22:33.920 they have higher body counts.

03:22:34.940 Yeah, yeah, for sure.

03:22:36.280 So, if we were just to generally say, like, react to the video, generally, yes, what he is

03:22:43.180 saying is true. 0.83

03:22:44.660 But if we were to really look into it, there's a lot more to it than...

03:22:49.800 I think it's rare, but I think it's possible when girls are becoming in their 30s and then 1.00

03:22:54.420 have lower body counts.

03:22:56.160 Yeah.

03:22:56.560 Yeah.

03:22:56.940 It's possible.

03:22:57.880 Fair.

03:22:58.080 But, I mean, I think Andrew Tate makes a great point because, you know, the more boyfriends

03:23:05.160 that a girl has, the more sexual partners, like, all of that's baggage. 0.54

03:23:09.360 And we don't want to deal with that.

03:23:10.840 Like, we don't want to deal with, you know, 10-plus different relationships and all the

03:23:17.180 baggage that came with it.

03:23:18.340 Like, we're looking for the girls that haven't experienced all that so that we can be the

03:23:23.080 ones that, you know, she does really fall in love with and show her.

03:23:27.560 You know, we don't want to be the 10th or 20th dude that's with her.

03:23:31.480 Yeah.

03:23:31.680 I mean, Andrew Tate's point was just generally why men prefer younger women.

03:23:36.800 And that example gave one reason why, but also to your point, what you were saying, Liv,

03:23:42.580 like, you have a 20-year-old who has an insane amount of baggage versus, you know, if you're

03:23:47.460 in your 30s and there's a woman with, she's only been with one guy, she has way less baggage, 0.89

03:23:51.440 she's probably going to make a much better partner. 0.99

03:23:53.700 So, yeah.

03:23:55.440 I mean, everybody's right, honestly.

03:23:59.160 Yeah.

03:23:59.880 On this side of the table. 1.00

03:24:02.640 Fuck that side of the table. 1.00

03:24:03.860 No, I'm just kidding. 1.00

03:24:04.360 Emma Whamma with the $10 soup chat.

03:24:08.140 Ladies, if your box disappeared, how would you keep a man in a relationship? 1.00

03:24:11.460 Should we just pull up, end on this, pull up the Patrice O'Neill?

03:24:15.880 It's basically the Patrice O'Neill thing. 0.62

03:24:18.440 Maybe before we, let's wrap on the Patrice O'Neill thing.

03:24:22.120 I want to give everyone, like, final thoughts.

03:24:25.240 By the way, guys, if you want, get your last-minute soup chats and we're about to wrap.

03:24:29.080 Anyone, final thoughts, final question before we watch a video and wrap up?

03:24:34.360 Shout-out to Rolo Tomasi.

03:24:36.400 Yeah, he's in the chat.

03:24:37.120 He's been fantastic for the past, like, three years.

03:24:39.880 I think he's changing a lot of men's lives out there.

03:24:42.580 Yeah, I mean, I discovered him, like, six years ago.

03:24:46.440 Rolo, your book changed my life.

03:24:47.780 Thank you, bro.

03:24:50.080 We're going to try to get him on.

03:24:52.000 I've been trying.

03:24:53.000 Rolo, let's get you on the show.

03:24:55.080 Let's get you on.

03:24:55.680 But, by the way, thank you for the – Rolo sent me a very thoughtful – well, I don't know if it was depending on your definition of thoughtful,

03:25:04.300 but he sent me a very in-depth kind of analysis, feedback, really, from my previous podcast, and it was very helpful.

03:25:11.440 So, Rolo, thank you very much.

03:25:12.740 Working on it, trying to get it together.

03:25:15.540 What did he say?

03:25:16.320 Is that him?

03:25:17.400 No, he's in the chat.

03:25:18.420 It's not him.

03:25:19.020 The rational mail.

03:25:19.920 Yeah, he's in the chat.

03:25:20.720 What did he say, feedback-wise?

03:25:23.040 Was this with respect to the last podcast?

03:25:25.980 Yeah, I think with the girl, the chihuahua, or the poodle girl, who called me a white boy.

03:25:31.900 White boy.

03:25:33.000 White boy.

03:25:33.860 White boy. 0.98

03:25:34.320 How dare you have an opinion on this, white boy? 0.99

03:25:37.000 Bro, I should have gone harder. 0.93

03:25:38.500 Like, looking back, I definitely regret not going harder.

03:25:40.460 Bro, I literally – I was in the chat, and everybody was like, bro, you need to go to the studio right now and set her straight.

03:25:44.860 I literally almost got in my car and came down here, bro.

03:25:47.260 You should have.

03:25:47.800 You should have because, yeah, I was outnumbered, but, yeah, I regret not going harder.

03:25:53.240 But he basically – he gave me some feedback on a couple different things, but just some things for me to work on as far as my presentation.

03:26:00.860 Recommended getting a co-host, so a couple other things, too.

03:26:05.160 So I don't want to, like, get too in-depth into it, but some good – some really good, like, constructive criticism, good feedback.

03:26:14.360 So, yeah, some stuff I'm working on.

03:26:18.020 Some stuff I kind of, like, already had a sense of, and definitely some new stuff, though, that he opened my eyes to.

03:26:22.780 So, Rolo, thank you, man.

03:26:23.600 Much appreciated.

03:26:24.740 White, white, claw, shake, logic.

03:26:26.560 Oh, gosh.

03:26:27.040 It's so real.

03:26:28.760 Okay, so anybody, last chance, final thought or question?

03:26:33.120 No, I think I'm good for now.

03:26:38.600 Okay.

03:26:38.880 I've already done enough.

03:26:40.460 All right, so we're going to – just to kind of address that super chat, we're going to pull up one last video, and we're going to wrap the show.

03:26:47.680 So, Eric, if you can pull up the Patrice Neal clip.

03:26:53.720 There you go.

03:26:54.580 This is such a good clip.

03:26:57.820 Let me ask you a question.

03:26:58.760 Here's a question.

03:26:59.400 Here's a good serious question.

03:27:01.040 Don't –

03:27:01.440 Don't reach out that much. 1.00

03:27:01.820 Okay, ladies, if you didn't have a vagina – like, say it was a terrible train accident, right, and the doctor was like, we have to remove your pussy right away, 1.00

03:27:14.100 or you're going to die. 1.00

03:27:15.080 Okay, how would you keep your man past – you get a two-month guilty – I can't leave the bitch right away because she just lost the pussy in the train accident. 1.00

03:27:30.780 Can't just walk right out on him. 1.00

03:27:36.240 How would you keep your man past that if you didn't have a vagina? 1.00

03:27:42.100 Okay, answer the question real quick. 1.00

03:27:46.060 Lauren, Lauren, go ahead.

03:27:48.060 Okay, no, go to Allie. 0.98

03:27:50.080 If you don't have a puss, how do you keep your man – is that the question? 0.99

03:27:54.940 Yeah. 0.98

03:27:56.440 Basically, what he just said is the question.

03:28:00.040 She said, use your mouth. 0.98

03:28:02.100 Wait, wait, wait.

03:28:02.720 Repeat it.

03:28:03.520 Use your mouth.

03:28:04.500 Okay.

03:28:04.860 Oh, my God.

03:28:05.520 Clever girl.

03:28:06.060 I was thinking more like long-term, like you can still have kids and stuff, but yeah, sorry.

03:28:12.060 Okay, let's go to Lauren real quick.

03:28:13.460 Go ahead, Lauren. 0.94

03:28:16.720 I don't think vagina's everything. 1.00

03:28:19.660 But just answer – you've got to just answer the question. 0.99

03:28:23.320 So how do you keep your man if you don't have a vagina? 1.00

03:28:27.520 Yes. 1.00

03:28:27.980 Yeah.

03:28:28.340 That's the question.

03:28:31.120 Go ahead.

03:28:31.680 Go ahead.

03:28:32.020 Answer.

03:28:32.980 Okay.

03:28:33.440 At the end of the day, I think it doesn't come down just to sex.

03:28:38.360 Keep going.

03:28:39.460 Keep going.

03:28:39.920 Keep going.

03:28:40.560 Okay.

03:28:40.920 I don't think it comes just down to sex.

03:28:43.040 I think if one person loves another person, that shouldn't be the only thing that matters.

03:28:48.840 Some people can't even have sex, for example.

03:28:51.980 So how are you doing it?

03:28:53.960 How am I?

03:28:54.680 How are you doing it?

03:28:55.600 How are you keeping him? 1.00

03:28:56.640 You have no vagina. 1.00

03:28:57.400 How are you doing it? 1.00

03:28:58.060 You know, I wouldn't know because I have one of those. 0.99

03:29:03.560 I get him that $5,000 sex doll. 0.99

03:29:06.520 We'll say it. 0.99

03:29:07.920 This is where the dog comes in.

03:29:09.380 I've known of people who have been in relationships and have never had sex because it's like it's

03:29:13.900 not possible for some reason.

03:29:17.440 It's possible to be in a relationship and not have sex. 1.00

03:29:20.580 But you are literally losing your vagina. 1.00

03:29:23.760 So like a train wreck. 1.00

03:29:26.320 Terrible train wreck.

03:29:27.480 Amtrak. 0.99

03:29:28.060 I think if love is there and you lose your vagina, it shouldn't affect the relationship. 0.99

03:29:34.260 And I don't think it would. 0.97

03:29:35.920 But what would you do differently? 0.75

03:29:40.960 I mean, I can't have sex. 0.98

03:29:43.560 I wouldn't have sex. 0.99

03:29:44.880 Would anything change in your behaviors given the loss of the vagina? 1.00

03:29:51.640 I guess I'd be turning to other methods more sexually.

03:29:55.840 But what about non-sexually?

03:29:57.480 Non-sexually?

03:30:01.420 I don't know if I would change it non-sexually. 0.79

03:30:03.420 Hold on.

03:30:03.900 Hold on.

03:30:04.300 So what's your answer to his?

03:30:07.020 So my answer to his is that, well, one, there's more than one way to be physically intimate.

03:30:11.720 But this is where the actual meat and potatoes of the relationship comes in where you have the partner, where you have that support person, where you have that cheerleader.

03:30:20.460 I think at the end of the day, I think at the end of the day, that's the most important over the sex. 0.95

03:30:24.840 The sex is definitely needed and there's other ways of intimacy.

03:30:28.740 But at the end of the day, it's going to come down to the type of partner you are.

03:30:32.620 It's a good based answer.

03:30:35.340 Yeah.

03:30:35.780 Yeah.

03:30:36.280 Hit the nail on the head.

03:30:38.380 Kiki? 0.83

03:30:39.040 Jesus Christ. 1.00

03:30:40.060 So basically, that's how we want girls that act like that, but still have their pussy. 1.00

03:30:47.900 Liv? 1.00

03:30:48.280 Well, yeah.

03:30:49.060 I feel like not only am I stuck in the corner, but I always have to follow up with a good answer.

03:30:54.120 I'm so sorry.

03:30:54.320 And I don't have it.

03:30:55.280 No, you're fine. 0.99

03:30:55.860 Um, sexually, sexually, sex doll, or maybe my mouth, probably my mouth, um, relationship wise, I mean, I'd probably just step it up. 0.94

03:31:11.500 Like, whatever I, whatever I need to do better, I talk to him, like, look, now that sex is out of the equation and I know that frustration is going to happen, like, let me know now, like, what I need to work on. 0.86

03:31:23.360 And then I'll let you know, and maybe we can figure something out.

03:31:26.640 It's a very wholesome answer. 0.99

03:31:27.300 What if the guy didn't have a dick? 1.00

03:31:29.000 We didn't talk about that side of it. 1.00

03:31:32.060 It's over.

03:31:33.300 It's so over.

03:31:34.420 Okay.

03:31:35.020 Um, we're going to finish the clip and then. 1.00

03:31:37.940 Would you be with a guy who didn't have a dick? 1.00

03:31:40.360 You know what? 0.99

03:31:40.880 I've never been presented with that situation, so I don't know.

03:31:44.220 Would you be with a guy who has a micropenis?

03:31:46.740 You know, I've never encountered a micropenis either, but when I do one day, I guess then I'll know. 1.00

03:31:52.900 Didn't you fuckers learn anything at college? 0.99

03:31:55.440 All right, Mike Davis, thank you for the $10 soup chat. 1.00

03:31:57.420 Brian, I would be the perfect co-host for you since, A, I'm an alpha male who never takes disrespect from women.

03:32:01.680 No offense.

03:32:02.620 Yeah, I've dropped the ball for sure tons of times on this.

03:32:05.840 B, these feminists cannot pull the white male card. 1.00

03:32:08.440 I'm busy as fuck, though. 1.00

03:32:09.220 Sorry. 0.99

03:32:10.020 Like I said, dude, we can get you in a masquerade ball mask.

03:32:12.360 I have a V for Vendetta mask that you can wear.

03:32:14.760 You know, the Guy Fawkes mask.

03:32:16.800 You can wear that.

03:32:18.000 I have a horse head if you want to wear that.

03:32:20.360 You know, those, like, 2012 when it was, like, cool for a couple months.

03:32:26.760 We'll get you a mask, dude.

03:32:28.280 Yeah, let me just say to you, Mike, you would absolutely kill it on this show as a co-host, dude.

03:32:34.060 Yo, Mike, you don't have to do a super chat, but would you be down to call in?

03:32:38.940 What do you think about that?

03:32:39.720 Let's get you to call in at least one time, you know.

03:32:42.700 But thank you for the super chat, man.

03:32:44.020 Much appreciated.

03:32:44.340 Mike, you would kill it. 1.00

03:32:44.620 I would absolutely listen to that. 1.00

03:32:46.080 That would be so funny.

03:32:47.720 Eric, can you go ahead and play the rest of the Patrice Clip?

03:32:52.620 Let me ask you a question.

03:32:54.020 Oh, did it?

03:32:55.200 Yeah, I'm not right.

03:32:56.420 Oh, okay.

03:32:59.620 Wow.

03:33:01.220 Nothing?

03:33:01.720 You can talk.

03:33:02.300 You can talk. 1.00

03:33:06.700 Suck his dick. 1.00

03:33:07.440 Okay. 1.00

03:33:08.060 Mouth. 1.00

03:33:13.060 Asshole. 1.00

03:33:13.560 Okay, great. 0.99

03:33:15.340 You see what I'm saying? 0.95

03:33:16.720 Now, I've been getting pussy bean the whole show, right? 0.98

03:33:19.380 But I give women the opportunity to say, I'm going to make myself worth more. 0.99

03:33:23.100 But you just classified yourself as a series of holes. 0.93

03:33:27.080 But, you know, I'm supposed to teach you special, but you're just a bunch of holes for yourself.

03:33:37.900 No one said learn how to play Xbox, learn how to play pool, tell better stories, 1.00

03:33:43.060 you just get another bitch that got a pussy to come on in. 1.00

03:33:48.620 Well, look, whatever. 1.00

03:33:50.100 Can we get some RIPs in the chat for the goat, Patrice O'Neill? 0.96

03:33:56.240 So, okay, any further reaction from the panel?

03:34:03.540 It's late, guys.

03:34:04.340 We're going to wrap up here.

03:34:05.940 Nothing?

03:34:07.840 Hmm?

03:34:08.160 It's hella funny.

03:34:10.880 Nothing? 0.88

03:34:11.320 Classify yourselves as a bunch of holes.

03:34:13.420 Great way to close the joke. 0.63

03:34:16.020 Okay.

03:34:19.040 Nothing.

03:34:19.620 Okay.

03:34:20.240 All right, guys.

03:34:20.820 Okay, I got something.

03:34:21.580 So, I mean, I think it goes back to, I think it goes back to, you know, the way that women think men perceive them, right?

03:34:31.980 We think that you guys perceive us as these sexualized things, objects.

03:34:37.720 And so, that's what we think of when he says that, right?

03:34:43.520 The typical female is going to say, oh, yeah, well, I can just do this or, you know, what have you, because we have been trained to think that we are sexualized objects. 1.00

03:34:56.840 It's training?

03:34:58.280 It's like social conditioning, right?

03:35:00.880 So, they're saying, they're telling us, you know, go out, sleep around, whatever, guys are doing it, too, right?

03:35:08.460 That's the mentality.

03:35:09.500 Guys are doing it, too.

03:35:10.500 You should do it.

03:35:11.740 Well, I think we objectify each other in various ways.

03:35:14.920 I mean, if women are sex objects, then men are success objects.

03:35:19.500 And I'm not saying that there's a difference.

03:35:21.020 I'm just saying that's where the answers come into play.

03:35:23.720 I mean, look, when I hear that question, I'm waiting for women to say I would be more attentive to him. 0.95

03:35:29.400 I would ask him what he needs help with.

03:35:31.000 I would, you know, look for ways that I could support him, right?

03:35:33.780 Like, that's what I want to hear.

03:35:34.920 Yeah.

03:35:35.320 You know what I mean? 1.00

03:35:35.920 And I think a lot of other guys, obviously, they're curious, how would you pleasure me if you didn't have a pussy? 1.00

03:35:40.560 But, like, that's the best answer is to say, you know, basically what you said. 1.00

03:35:44.580 Think about all the ways that you could support a man.

03:35:46.480 Like, that's the best answer to that question.

03:35:48.260 And that's what he was joking about.

03:35:49.660 Exactly.

03:35:49.760 A lot of women, and I don't think it's training. 1.00

03:35:51.840 I just think, you know, I think a lot of women don't realize that they bring more to the table than just their vagina or their mouth or whatever. 1.00

03:35:59.080 They devalue themselves, yes. 0.99

03:36:01.340 I don't think that's just by training or conditioning.

03:36:04.400 I think conditioning is a part of it, but what's stopping women from realizing that they bring so much more to the table? 1.00

03:36:11.280 I also think the porn industry.

03:36:14.900 It's terrible.

03:36:15.780 Yeah, I think that that's maybe contributing to what you're saying as well.

03:36:18.720 Absolutely.

03:36:19.060 I think porn is going to continue increasing in adoption, so I think that it's really important that guys out there that feel addicted to porn or that are into that stuff, you know, try to get out of that habit because it's ruining their ability to actually approach women and talk to them in real life.

03:36:39.220 So, actually, what do you guys think about porn?

03:36:41.480 I was going to ask you guys what you guys think about it because I feel like that would be like an – I feel like most girls, you know, I mean –

03:36:48.480 I'm pretty sure from Pornhub, 25% – it's 25% girls, 75% guys, so.

03:36:56.900 I think it's a terrible industry.

03:36:59.840 I think it's really subversive and damaging relationships.

03:37:02.900 I think it's way too accessible.

03:37:04.800 I think it's bad for society.

03:37:06.820 I think it fucks a lot of people up, you know.

03:37:10.540 I think it's bad. 0.85

03:37:13.980 Yeah, I mean, it's terrible.

03:37:15.380 What do you think, Brian? 0.98

03:37:16.460 I mean, I watch porn, so I don't want to be – you're not wrong, but I also don't want to be a hypocrite.

03:37:25.000 But I think – I mean, I'm not – I wouldn't say I'm addicted to porn.

03:37:28.800 I rarely watch porn, maybe once or twice a month because –

03:37:34.180 Here's a good question on the subject of porn.

03:37:37.140 What do you guys think about the OnlyFans phenomenon, good thing or bad thing for society? 0.89

03:37:42.720 I think it's just another example of, I don't know, society telling women that, like, you're sexual objects, but here, empower yourself, but you're your own sexual object. 0.50

03:37:53.280 Like, that's still not okay.

03:37:54.860 I just, like, think there is a million and one different ways that women can add value to their communities and get paid for it accordingly that isn't sexual and with strangers. 0.94

03:38:08.220 Well, we need to get Ashley to her Ventura rendezvous. 0.97

03:38:12.480 So I'd love to continue this conversation.

03:38:15.400 We're an hour late.

03:38:16.260 But, yeah, I'd love to continue the conversation, but we have run a little bit over, so we're going to wrap up here.

03:38:22.600 Thank you for tuning in.

03:38:23.440 You could have been doing anything else, but you're here with me.

03:38:25.540 I appreciate that.

03:38:26.620 We will be live again Thursday at 7 p.m., and thank you so much to all of you guys for coming on.

03:38:33.100 Really appreciate it.

03:38:34.220 Thanks to the cool panel.

03:38:35.280 It was a good conversation.

03:38:37.160 And thanks to you guys for watching.

03:38:38.740 You guys were awesome.

03:38:40.040 And, yeah, guys, we will see you next time.

03:38:42.260 Have a good night, guys.

03:38:43.060 Have a good night.

Whatever Podcast - February 03, 2023

Dating Talk #28

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