Whatever Podcast - Dating Talk #30

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00:01:00.220 Welcome to the Whatever Dating Talk podcast.

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00:02:09.960 Eric, if you want to just skip over that one, you can pull it up.

00:02:14.040 Yeah.

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00:02:23.060 Guys, we're doing it live.

00:02:24.960 We had a failed launch.

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00:02:29.660 Failure to launch.

00:02:30.480 Something like that.

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00:02:48.440 Anyways, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.

00:02:51.360 So please tell us your name, age, occupation, and or school major.

00:02:54.580 Go ahead.

00:02:55.100 Okay.

00:02:56.140 Hi, my name is Nicole Petrov.

00:02:57.800 I'm 19 years old, and I'm a communications major at SBCC.

00:03:03.420 I'm Gabby.

00:03:04.880 I'm 20 years old, and I'm a criminology major at SBCC.

00:03:10.440 I'm Emily.

00:03:11.940 I am 31 years old, and I am an actor in LA.

00:03:16.380 I'm Sophia.

00:03:17.480 I'm 18, and I'm a global studies major at UCSB.

00:03:21.680 I'm Ashley.

00:03:22.920 I'm 18, and I'm a communications major at UCSB.

00:03:26.560 I'm Aria.

00:03:27.380 I'm 18, and I'm a biology major at UCSB.

00:03:30.340 I'm Emily.

00:03:31.120 I'm 18, and I'm a political science major at UCSB.

00:03:34.720 Rock and roll.

00:03:35.580 Everyone's Instagrams are in the description.

00:03:37.560 So, guys, show them some love.

00:03:39.480 Give them a follow.

00:03:40.440 So, we're going to go around the table once more.

00:03:43.220 Current relationship status, longest relationship, and are you on any dating apps?

00:03:47.940 And that includes seeking arrangements.

00:03:50.280 Go ahead.

00:03:50.520 Okay.

00:03:51.580 I am single and celibate.

00:03:53.600 My longest relationship was a year, and I'm not on any dating apps, nor have I ever been.

00:03:58.980 I am currently in a relationship.

00:04:03.760 My longest relationship, I want to say it was two and a half years, and I'm obviously not on any dating apps.

00:04:09.660 I'm currently single.

00:04:12.040 My longest relationship was about three to four years, and I am not on any dating apps.

00:04:17.560 My longest relationship was seven months, and I'm kind of on Tinder, but kind of not.

00:04:29.780 It's off and on sometimes.

00:04:30.780 What does that mean, kind of on Tinder, kind of not?

00:04:32.660 Okay, like, I have an account.

00:04:35.840 It's paused, but it'll probably be unpaused at some point in time.

00:04:42.320 Or when she needs it.

00:04:44.020 Yeah.

00:04:44.240 I'm single.

00:04:45.900 My longest relationship was probably, like, six months, and I'm kind of a Bumble ambassador, so I have to have the app, but, like, I only use it when I'm bored.

00:04:59.020 Wait, you're kind of a Bumble ambassador?

00:05:01.420 What is that?

00:05:02.400 Yeah, I'm an ambassador on campus, so I, like, host events, I get merch, I promote the app and just all about it.

00:05:10.200 So there's actually an event going on right now, but it's up to our tab, and I'm not 21.

00:05:16.180 Is there a larger organization on campus for Bumble?

00:05:21.240 Because, I mean, you said there's this other event going on currently.

00:05:24.680 No, it's just there's, like, four ambassadors, and we run it.

00:05:27.520 Do you get paid?

00:05:28.200 Yes.

00:05:29.180 Wow.

00:05:29.580 That's dope.

00:05:30.720 Is it all women, or is it just men?

00:05:32.900 No, there's a guy.

00:05:34.120 There's a guy?

00:05:35.560 One guy.

00:05:36.540 Three girls, one guy.

00:05:38.620 But so, okay.

00:05:40.200 Three girls, one guy.

00:05:42.120 Do you, but you don't really use it, kind of.

00:05:44.340 You kind of use it.

00:05:45.260 You have to use it.

00:05:46.140 Well, I don't have to use it, but, you know, when I started doing it, I wanted to, you know, I really liked it.

00:05:51.840 I was promoting it, the brand and everything.

00:05:53.760 How do you promote Bumble?

00:05:54.900 Like, what's your pitch to somebody?

00:05:57.420 It's really great for college students because it's safe, and you can verify yourself to make sure you're only seeing students on your campus or nearby.

00:06:05.760 And, honestly, I just like it.

00:06:07.780 I use my socials to boost it and flyers around campus and just, like, word of mouth.

00:06:14.300 Okay.

00:06:15.060 Rock and roll.

00:06:16.540 Okay.

00:06:16.840 I'm currently in a relationship.

00:06:18.300 My longest relationship was three years, and I'm obviously not on any dating apps either.

00:06:22.280 So, I'm currently single as of probably three weeks ago, and I do have Tinder, but I'm kind of off and on.

00:06:34.240 It's kind of paused.

00:06:36.280 How long was this relationship that recently ended?

00:06:39.540 Three years.

00:06:40.680 I broke up with him.

00:06:42.780 Oh.

00:06:43.600 Yeah.

00:06:44.540 You broke up?

00:06:44.980 Why did you break up with him?

00:06:45.840 Because I came here.

00:06:49.860 He was really kind of insecure about me, you know, being here.

00:06:53.600 He was back at home, and I just, like, I don't know.

00:06:56.480 I wanted to be single.

00:06:57.260 I'm in college.

00:06:58.080 You know, I'm young.

00:06:58.860 I felt like I was just committed way too young, way too fast.

00:07:03.280 He was holding you back.

00:07:04.420 He was holding you back a lot.

00:07:05.280 He definitely was.

00:07:05.900 Holding her back from what?

00:07:08.160 Being the best person of college experience.

00:07:09.960 You're the best person I can be.

00:07:11.340 Were you his mother?

00:07:13.140 I might as well have been.

00:07:15.000 Because I can really, I can really.

00:07:17.820 Wait, so, okay, when you say holding you back from being the best person you could be,

00:07:21.620 do you mean hooking up with all the hot UCSB dudes?

00:07:25.060 No.

00:07:25.700 No.

00:07:26.420 Just, like, living my life.

00:07:28.400 He was really insecure about me being here in general, you know?

00:07:31.920 And I had been with him since I was 15, and, like, the person you are when you're 15,

00:07:35.900 is not the same person you are when you start your first, even, week of college.

00:07:40.440 So I was, like, I just couldn't do it anymore.

00:07:43.640 I was, like, I'd rather be single.

00:07:45.060 I'd rather focus on myself.

00:07:46.500 Were you guys initially planning to have, like, a long-distance relationship?

00:07:53.680 Yes and no.

00:07:55.340 I tried to break up with him right before I came here, and it was really hard because,

00:07:59.580 I mean, we had been together so long, so I was, like, I might as well just try, you know?

00:08:03.080 And then I realized, like, this is not going to work out.

00:08:05.960 This is getting toxic.

00:08:07.320 I just can't be in this relationship anymore.

00:08:09.500 So I did what was best for me, and I'm happy.

00:08:11.720 I love being single.

00:08:12.680 No, I think you made the right decision.

00:08:14.160 Absolutely.

00:08:15.140 Long-distance relationships, even if it's just someone who's, like, two hours away,

00:08:18.640 that's just, it doesn't work.

00:08:19.920 I mean, I will say I feel like it depends also on how you start the relationship

00:08:23.800 because I've met so many people who have started long-distance and are doing great now.

00:08:29.340 I feel like usually when it turns to long-distance after being together

00:08:33.280 in, like, close proximity is usually where these have issues.

00:08:36.620 It's also about knowing what you can handle, what you want,

00:08:39.340 and absolutely what you said, where the relationship started.

00:08:43.020 Did it start long-distance?

00:08:44.200 Did it start with you two together?

00:08:46.020 Because if people make it work, then, heck, yeah, that's awesome.

00:08:48.960 Yeah, and I feel like, no, go ahead.

00:08:50.400 Yeah, just knowing what you're capable of doing, what you want,

00:08:54.240 and also, like, knowing how in tune you are with your certain love language.

00:08:58.900 If your love language is physical touch, I'm sorry,

00:09:01.800 a long-distance relationship is not going to work for you.

00:09:04.180 Yeah.

00:09:04.920 In my opinion.

00:09:05.940 Yeah, and I feel like having a really good foundation before you start,

00:09:09.000 and we didn't have that at all.

00:09:10.680 So it was rocky from the beginning, so I was like,

00:09:13.220 And you dated him for three years?

00:09:14.900 Three years since I was 15.

00:09:16.460 Wow.

00:09:16.540 My freshman year of high school, all the way up until...

00:09:20.020 If you had a rocky beginning, why did it last three years?

00:09:23.240 Because you get comfortable being with somebody, I would say.

00:09:26.040 That's true.

00:09:26.240 You know, especially when you're that young.

00:09:28.220 It's like all high school, all I knew was what it was like to be with him.

00:09:31.380 I didn't know what a life without him was like until I came here.

00:09:34.780 And then I realized what a life without him was like,

00:09:37.080 and then that's when he started to get really toxic.

00:09:39.580 So I was like, this is just not...

00:09:40.780 I feel like a lot of high school girls have this, like, unrealistic ideal expectation

00:09:44.640 of being in, like, a three-year-long relationship,

00:09:46.840 and then you actually leave, and you're like, wow, I don't need that.

00:09:50.540 Exactly.

00:09:51.420 Exactly.

00:09:52.020 I think I only know maybe just one couple that got together in my high school,

00:09:59.040 and they're still together.

00:09:59.940 They have kids, and I think it's amazing.

00:10:02.420 It's incredible.

00:10:02.860 But it's not something that happens all the time.

00:10:06.840 When you're in high school, high school is that little bubble

00:10:09.660 where the whole world revolves around who you're hanging out with,

00:10:14.020 what's going on socially, and you and your relationships.

00:10:16.940 But there's so much more outside of high school.

00:10:20.860 Yeah, long distance is definitely, I think, an out.

00:10:24.300 I mean, that's just...

00:10:26.700 But so I'm curious, just to clarify.

00:10:28.540 You were still in a relationship when you initially moved here.

00:10:33.280 Yes.

00:10:33.660 You had attempted to break up with him, but you were going to try to make it work.

00:10:37.660 You were here for a week, and then you dumped him.

00:10:41.020 Is that a fair assessment of the situation?

00:10:43.820 Yes, it is.

00:10:44.680 It is.

00:10:45.100 Okay.

00:10:46.680 Huh.

00:10:48.520 Okay.

00:10:49.680 So have you been dating at all since dating?

00:10:53.100 Have you been...

00:10:54.140 Oh, your friend just exposed you there, by the way.

00:10:56.740 No, nothing serious.

00:10:58.820 Oh, really?

00:10:59.900 Nothing serious.

00:11:01.880 Nothing serious.

00:11:03.340 I'm single.

00:11:04.840 Okay.

00:11:05.380 But like...

00:11:06.180 Some frat boys over here.

00:11:09.800 They're cute, but I'm not really interested in anything right now.

00:11:14.040 All right.

00:11:15.500 They're cute, but just not right now.

00:11:18.700 Yeah, I mean, my advice to men, I mean, also to women,

00:11:21.580 don't do long-term relationship before you're going off to college

00:11:26.280 with your high school sweetheart or whatever.

00:11:28.260 That shit is not going to work.

00:11:30.560 It's not going to work.

00:11:31.660 It's a wrap.

00:11:32.900 Trust.

00:11:33.540 I feel like it can work as long as the communication's there.

00:11:36.680 If the communication's not there, it's definitely not going to work

00:11:39.220 because if you're six hours, four hours, whatever, away from each other

00:11:42.720 and you're not even talking, then you're basically not together.

00:11:45.600 And that's what happened with my relationship was he moved to Berkeley

00:11:48.820 and I lived like three and a half hours away and he just didn't talk to me.

00:11:52.740 And so we were broken up a long time before we actually broke up, in my opinion.

00:11:57.080 But what 18-year-old boy is mature enough to keep up that communication?

00:12:01.480 I mean, you could say the same thing about what 18-year-old woman is.

00:12:04.780 That's true.

00:12:05.440 I feel like women mature faster.

00:12:10.440 They do.

00:12:10.900 I agree.

00:12:11.780 No, that's science.

00:12:13.480 Men don't fully mature until their 40s and women mature until their 40s.

00:12:18.120 Yeah, until their 40s and women mature by, I think I read, age 32.

00:12:24.280 So I've got one more year.

00:12:26.160 You'll have to send me those stats after the show.

00:12:28.880 But I mean, there's also going to be so much science that's going to be going against that,

00:12:31.940 but that's just based off the research.

00:12:34.160 Fair enough.

00:12:34.720 So before I get into some of my questions, I'd like to open it up.

00:12:38.760 This is something I've been doing before the shows.

00:12:40.560 I'd like to open it up to the panel first.

00:12:42.280 So is there anything dating-related that you want to get off your chest?

00:12:46.860 It could be something you wish men did differently, something you don't get about men.

00:12:51.920 There's a trend in dating that annoys you.

00:12:54.600 Men are pissing you off in some way.

00:12:56.440 How much time you got?

00:12:58.940 We'll limit it to one thing, or you want some advice on a specific thing, whatever it may be.

00:13:04.740 So actually, you know what?

00:13:06.540 Yeah, we'll start here.

00:13:07.360 Go ahead.

00:13:08.440 I just feel like every time I have something good going in the past, like a situationship,

00:13:13.620 you could call it, I feel like I start showing that I could give them the world, and then

00:13:18.380 I feel like they start freaking out and pulling away.

00:13:21.440 And not only that, but they're super manipulative, and they'll do the most to manipulate you to

00:13:27.760 like them, and then when it's time for the real thing, they just make excuses, if that

00:13:32.520 makes sense.

00:13:33.000 It's like they'll have you meet their mother, hang out with you all the time, sleep over

00:13:39.860 at your house, bring you around their friends, all this, and then they'll turn out on you

00:13:44.440 and be like, what?

00:13:46.100 You thought this was a thing?

00:13:47.300 We're just friends.

00:13:48.760 So I don't know.

00:13:49.700 That's my grievance.

00:13:51.040 So you said that you're prepared to give them the world.

00:13:55.940 What do you mean by that?

00:13:56.980 I exaggerate, but like me, if I was like a girlfriend currently, I would be so loyal,

00:14:02.780 so loving, like I would cook, like I wouldn't even probably like go out, or if I were to

00:14:07.280 go out, I would like only go out with them.

00:14:09.400 You know what I mean?

00:14:10.060 Okay.

00:14:10.760 That's some good stuff.

00:14:11.600 I would just be like a wife.

00:14:12.820 I would be a wife.

00:14:13.680 You would be a wife.

00:14:14.840 Okay.

00:14:15.200 Let's not paint the picture of what a wife looks like.

00:14:19.580 Because there's so many things.

00:14:21.160 My one thing I want to say there is I love the loyalty, and I think that that's incredible,

00:14:26.020 but the one thing that I want to also say is that, yes, you can absolutely give somebody

00:14:30.920 the world, but also make sure that you're giving yourself something.

00:14:35.200 Go out with the girls.

00:14:36.200 Go, you know, make sure that there is.

00:14:37.840 Don't listen to her.

00:14:39.020 Don't listen to her.

00:14:40.480 Stay at home.

00:14:42.020 Stay at home.

00:14:42.720 Don't go to the bar.

00:14:43.600 Don't go to the club.

00:14:44.400 Guys don't want that.

00:14:46.060 No.

00:14:46.620 I don't know.

00:14:47.800 I feel like it depends on the relationship, but like the reason why I'm celibate, like

00:14:51.760 not really looking for anything right now is because I want to love myself.

00:14:56.020 And I want to love my girls.

00:14:57.360 Like I want to.

00:14:57.780 You're celibate.

00:14:58.840 Yeah.

00:14:59.600 When's the last time you hooked up somebody?

00:15:01.940 In the summer.

00:15:03.040 Okay.

00:15:03.400 In the summer, like July.

00:15:04.660 When I met you in the summer.

00:15:07.440 But yeah, I feel like it just kind of depends on the relationship you have, you know, but

00:15:11.740 right now I feel like people aren't okay with being single because they haven't learned

00:15:17.880 how to love themselves.

00:15:18.640 Like a lot of people, you'll always see them in a relationship, like one relationship after

00:15:23.040 the other, but people don't realize all you need is yourself.

00:15:26.620 And like everyone needs to learn that for you to even like fully love someone you have

00:15:31.020 to like fully love yourself.

00:15:33.260 Okay.

00:15:33.660 So you said go out with the girls.

00:15:35.820 So I think she's, she's on the right track there with kind of what she thinks she's offering

00:15:41.660 to a guy, but you think, no, no, no, go out with your single friends.

00:15:46.420 No.

00:15:46.840 What I'm saying is that she, if she thinks that she shouldn't go out and only go out

00:15:55.440 with her boyfriend at that time, I don't really agree.

00:15:59.180 I think that you should make sure that you have that identity of yourself that is separate

00:16:05.160 from the person that you are with, whether it's your lover, your husband, your boyfriend,

00:16:09.000 your girlfriend, partner, whatever.

00:16:11.000 I think that it's really important to have that strong connection with your friends and

00:16:16.060 make sure that that's maintained.

00:16:18.120 I completely agree.

00:16:19.400 I just wanted to add on to that as well, because from my personal experience, I mean, I've been

00:16:24.280 in a relationship where I gave the guy everything.

00:16:26.900 I did everything for him.

00:16:28.440 I would leave my friends to go and hang out with him.

00:16:31.440 And that really does damage your relationships with your friends because, you know, you're very

00:16:36.060 clearly showing that like you don't give them the same respect that you give him and you

00:16:41.480 can give him everything.

00:16:42.600 You can like be the best person in a relationship that you can be for that person, but allowing

00:16:48.460 yourself to still have your relationships that you've had before them is super important.

00:16:53.100 Like, cause think about after, let's say things go wrong with them.

00:16:57.100 Are you like going to want to be alone because you put all of your time into this guy who then

00:17:01.800 dropped you and you have no one?

00:17:04.340 You want to maintain the people who are going to be there for you after him as well.

00:17:07.940 Well, let's clarify one, let's clarify one thing.

00:17:10.360 So, I mean, there's, there's maintaining friendships, but then there's going out, partying, clubbing.

00:17:19.480 I mean, you can party and have fun when you have a boyfriend.

00:17:22.460 Like there's, it's a bad, it's a bad look.

00:17:25.120 Well, there's not a bad look.

00:17:26.580 Like there has to be that level of trust between you and your partner.

00:17:30.120 Like if they don't trust you going out, then that's going to cause a lot of drama.

00:17:34.120 So you'd be totally cool with a significant other going to like your boyfriend going to

00:17:37.480 the strip club.

00:17:38.420 Yeah, absolutely.

00:17:39.640 All you girls would be okay with that.

00:17:40.860 Yeah, I think it would be funny.

00:17:42.540 You'd be okay with that.

00:17:43.060 Yeah, sure.

00:17:43.440 Go ahead.

00:17:44.180 Like have fun.

00:17:44.740 The thing is, I'm not, I'm, when I'm in a relationship, I'm not there to tell you what

00:17:49.080 you cannot do.

00:17:50.000 I'm there to build something with you.

00:17:52.660 And if you want to go to the strip club with your dudes, do it.

00:17:56.900 I don't care.

00:17:58.320 But if I'm in a relationship with someone that I don't trust, yeah, that's going to be

00:18:01.640 uncomfortable.

00:18:02.060 And maybe I should rethink being in that relationship, but I'm not the type of person to say you cannot

00:18:07.380 do that because I'm confident in myself.

00:18:09.440 And if I'm confident in the relationship, then I don't see the need to put up stock.

00:18:14.680 Well, the strip club isn't the perfect equal example, but men and women have a very different

00:18:22.360 experience when they go out to social gatherings, when they go out to bars, clubs, or parties,

00:18:27.840 right?

00:18:28.120 So, and it's not, it's not so much about controlling, and I'm sure we all have boundaries that we

00:18:33.860 would want our partner to adhere to.

00:18:35.700 So it's not so much a controlling thing.

00:18:37.300 Like for me, for example, if I was going to take a girl seriously, if she was going

00:18:41.700 to bars, clubs, partying every weekend, it would never get to the point where I'd ever

00:18:45.540 commit to her.

00:18:46.640 But it's not like you can't do that.

00:18:49.480 It's like, oh, okay, you want to go party every weekend?

00:18:52.960 We're no longer in a relationship, and now there's other girls in the picture.

00:18:56.560 I'm not going to be monogamous to a girl that's putting herself out there like that.

00:19:02.520 Sure.

00:19:03.040 No, and I think that's great because you know what you're capable of doing.

00:19:07.060 You know what you want, and you know what you don't want.

00:19:09.620 And sure, I'm not the type of person right now who goes out partying all the time.

00:19:14.520 Would it be a good idea for me to get into a relationship with some man who wants to go

00:19:18.920 out party all the time?

00:19:19.700 Probably not, because I'd like to be a part of something that he's doing that he's already

00:19:24.640 doing besides me being there.

00:19:27.180 But I'm just saying like, it depends what you want, right?

00:19:29.560 If you want to be single and just have fun, then continue partying.

00:19:34.600 But for most men, like, it's, I mean, I feel like...

00:19:38.020 I think it's just definition of partying, though, honestly.

00:19:40.600 Because, I mean, I feel like from at least what you're saying, you're assuming that like

00:19:44.440 going out and partying with the girls means like, oh, I'm going to like, what, go grind

00:19:47.900 on some guy?

00:19:48.860 I mean, like, you can have fun with the girls and not have it be all about like, oh, there

00:19:54.240 are other guys around.

00:19:55.360 Like, I'm putting myself out there for other men.

00:19:58.300 Like, how about I have a relationship, I'm going out and I'm focusing on my friends.

00:20:02.500 Why is it that so many guys think that girls go out for other men?

00:20:06.380 No, true.

00:20:06.720 Like, we go out to have fun with our friends.

00:20:09.140 And like, have a good time, listen to music, dance.

00:20:12.160 It doesn't have to be about men.

00:20:13.320 I don't care if they're there.

00:20:15.000 Okay, so hold on.

00:20:16.860 So hold on.

00:20:17.960 Yeah, I guess that, sure, there's a component of you're going to have fun.

00:20:22.020 But part of it is going to be the attention that you receive from men.

00:20:25.600 That's not our fault.

00:20:26.500 You're always going to receive attention from men.

00:20:27.700 That's not our fault.

00:20:29.100 Exactly.

00:20:29.760 I do not control what men see in me.

00:20:32.480 If I see a guy at a party and he's super into me and I have a boyfriend, am I going to give

00:20:36.800 him attention?

00:20:37.440 No.

00:20:38.140 But okay, like, let's not, we don't have to, we don't have to lie and say that women don't

00:20:43.880 go out for men.

00:20:45.180 Like, if you go to a social gathering.

00:20:47.660 Yeah, if you're, that's what I'm saying.

00:20:48.680 If you're single and you go to a social gathering, there is, it might not be a hundred percent

00:20:53.420 of the reason, but there is a part of the reason you're going out is to potentially meet

00:20:58.620 somebody.

00:20:59.140 So should we not, should we not go out if men are going to be there?

00:21:02.640 Is that what we're saying?

00:21:03.980 Because we can't control that and we're not going out for the attention.

00:21:07.900 If you're in a relationship, you're free to do whatever you want and you can have a

00:21:11.420 negotiation with your potential partner.

00:21:12.960 I think though, at least for me, one, because I don't go to bars, I don't go to clubs, I

00:21:18.360 don't party, I don't drink.

00:21:20.340 I'm focused on other things.

00:21:22.880 I certainly wouldn't want a partner that was every weekend was going out to party and stuff

00:21:28.160 from a commonality place, but also just from the fact of when you go to the club, you're

00:21:33.340 basically, it's kind of cheating.

00:21:35.200 It's a little bit cheating.

00:21:36.760 Why?

00:21:37.340 Can I just ask?

00:21:38.260 Why are you, why?

00:21:40.340 Because there's a, it's almost a foregone conclusion that you're going to get hit on by guys.

00:21:46.600 You're always going to get hit on.

00:21:48.060 You can be hit on in the street.

00:21:49.240 Like, okay.

00:21:49.720 It's a common, like every woman has, every woman has experienced being cackled on the

00:21:54.660 street.

00:21:54.940 You're constantly being hit on.

00:21:56.760 I got hit on when I'm with my boyfriend.

00:21:58.940 Exactly.

00:21:59.540 No, you can't just because you're going out to a party, like, doesn't mean like, oh, I'm

00:22:03.200 now I'm opening myself to be hit on.

00:22:05.100 You're being hit on, like, no matter where you go.

00:22:07.840 But going to a party club or bar, it's a very, very specific social setting.

00:22:15.420 Sure.

00:22:15.820 You could get hit on it when you're grocery shopping, going to Trader Joe's that could

00:22:19.800 happen.

00:22:20.180 Right.

00:22:20.620 But at a party club or bar, it's a very specific social setting.

00:22:24.640 There's alcohol involved.

00:22:26.220 Maybe you're with your single friends.

00:22:27.760 By the way, I think single friends are about pretty much the worst influence on someone who's

00:22:33.420 in a relationship, terrible influence.

00:22:36.440 It's bad.

00:22:37.240 It's bad.

00:22:37.980 So I'll let you guys respond.

00:22:40.260 But being someone in a relationship that like is in the scene, I think it really comes down

00:22:45.920 to communication and setting those boundaries with your partner before you're even, you know,

00:22:52.260 given, like, those chances to do that.

00:22:56.400 Like, so me and my boyfriend, let's say, like, you know, we have fun together.

00:23:01.580 We choose to go out together most of the times.

00:23:03.440 But let's say, like, me and Nicole want to go out with, like, our female friends.

00:23:08.320 They're all single, but I still hold myself to a standard because I'm loyal to my boyfriend,

00:23:14.900 you know, and so at the end of the day, it's really your own actions that kind of dictate,

00:23:22.160 like, what that party scene is going to look like for you.

00:23:25.580 So also, I mean, I feel like single friends can not necessarily hold you accountable because

00:23:31.140 no matter what, you're accountable for yourself.

00:23:32.720 But at least with, like, I've, you know, been friends with people who are in relationships

00:23:37.100 and want to go out partying with me and my single friends.

00:23:39.400 And if a guy comes up to her and is hitting on her, I, like, do not feel bad at all saying,

00:23:43.300 hey, she has a boyfriend, like, she's not available.

00:23:46.760 I mean, I would add to this, like, men and women flirt differently.

00:23:51.800 The way women flirt is you just show up.

00:23:53.960 You just be there.

00:23:56.020 You make yourself.

00:23:57.500 Yeah, that's not true.

00:23:59.020 That's how women.

00:23:59.840 No.

00:24:01.100 That's how women get partners is you put yourself out there and then the men come.

00:24:06.720 But you don't have to just show up to put yourself out there.

00:24:08.740 Yeah.

00:24:09.500 And you also have.

00:24:11.060 Like, that's how flirting is in general.

00:24:12.900 Like, I'm not flirting.

00:24:13.760 So you approach guys.

00:24:15.320 If you're at a party, you will approach a guy.

00:24:17.200 Yeah.

00:24:17.400 Yeah, for sure.

00:24:18.360 Really?

00:24:19.040 No, I'm fucking serious.

00:24:20.260 Absolutely.

00:24:20.800 Like, if we actually want someone, we will, a lot of the times, like.

00:24:24.240 You'll approach the guy.

00:24:25.420 Yeah.

00:24:25.660 Yeah.

00:24:26.320 All of you approach men more often than men approach you.

00:24:29.760 I would say yes, in my opinion.

00:24:31.440 No, no.

00:24:31.460 Not me.

00:24:32.100 I approach the men that I'm interested in.

00:24:34.120 Yeah, I don't just approach, like, any men.

00:24:35.980 Of the men, of the men that you've hooked up with or dated, who approached who?

00:24:42.180 Give me a percentage.

00:24:44.360 Here, let's start here.

00:24:45.440 Yeah.

00:24:46.260 Of the men you've dated or hooked up with, give me, like, an estimate.

00:24:50.480 Who approached who?

00:24:51.880 Who initiated?

00:24:53.560 Probably, like, 90% them.

00:24:56.600 90% the guy.

00:24:57.540 Okay, go ahead.

00:24:58.000 I want to say, like, maybe 60, 40, like, 60 guy, 40 me.

00:25:04.700 Go ahead.

00:25:06.340 Mostly the guy.

00:25:07.500 Okay.

00:25:08.140 For me, it's been 100% me.

00:25:10.380 100% you.

00:25:11.480 I don't think I've ever, like, sure, maybe a guy has.

00:25:13.980 I would say, like, you know, I'll go, like, 90, 10.

00:25:17.000 But majority of the time, I'm the one who approaches.

00:25:20.440 I'd go, like, 80, 20, the guy.

00:25:23.600 Bumble.

00:25:24.220 Okay.

00:25:24.800 Yeah.

00:25:25.120 I would agree with Gabby about 60, 40.

00:25:29.660 Yeah.

00:25:30.160 I would agree to 60, 40, definitely.

00:25:33.580 Okay.

00:25:34.080 And how, so you guys have all initiated then?

00:25:36.720 Mm-hmm.

00:25:37.200 You've initiated.

00:25:38.480 Yeah.

00:25:38.660 Okay.

00:25:39.260 By the way, Bumble is, like, token.

00:25:41.540 If you guys are talking about Bumble, because I know you're the Bumble representative.

00:25:45.360 Bumble is, like, the most token initiative when it comes to women.

00:25:50.560 Because, like, yes, women have to message first.

00:25:53.040 But when you guys do message, it's, hey.

00:25:56.400 And then you shift the conversational burden.

00:25:58.940 That's been my experience on Bumble.

00:26:00.500 The girls, yes, they have to message first.

00:26:02.220 But they'll just say, hey.

00:26:03.700 And then they shuck the entire conversational burden onto the guys.

00:26:08.720 No, it's a step in the right direction.

00:26:11.060 It's something.

00:26:11.820 Well, for me personally, I like being pursued.

00:26:15.640 Mm-hmm.

00:26:16.440 I...

00:26:17.040 Can I have to curse?

00:26:18.680 Yeah, you can curse.

00:26:19.220 Oh, I fucking love it.

00:26:20.800 I love being pursued.

00:26:23.220 And I love flirting.

00:26:25.440 And I went through a phase where I was majority...

00:26:29.380 Majority?

00:26:30.440 Majority?

00:26:30.960 I don't know.

00:26:31.720 I was the one that was pursuing guys because I thought that was fun.

00:26:36.000 I would be the one to kiss first.

00:26:37.400 I would be the one to ask somebody out first.

00:26:39.220 But I'm now, right now, I've just, it's almost like I get high off of it.

00:26:45.180 I love being, I love when a guy approaches me.

00:26:47.760 I love when I'm getting that attention and I don't have to do anything except for just

00:26:51.800 like lock eyes and be like, yo, it's on.

00:26:54.020 Did someone else want to come in here real quick?

00:26:59.560 I'm trying to keep track here.

00:27:01.760 So, so you guys disagree that with my statement that women just have to show up?

00:27:08.940 Yes.

00:27:09.480 Completely.

00:27:09.760 I don't, I don't fully disagree because women are powerful and beautiful beings.

00:27:17.800 Yes.

00:27:18.160 Sometimes all it takes is for us to walk into a room and everyone looks.

00:27:21.940 And I think that's wonderful.

00:27:23.400 But then, you know, there's also times where it does take a little bit more work where

00:27:28.620 it's a little bit more challenging or the guy makes it a little more challenging or he's

00:27:33.360 just not interested.

00:27:34.000 I don't think a woman just showing up is necessarily an invitation for you to just be like, that's

00:27:41.900 how I get guys.

00:27:42.700 Like, I want you all.

00:27:44.240 Like, no, I can just go to the bar with my friends and have fun.

00:27:47.540 And like, maybe I don't want to get a hit on me that day.

00:27:49.660 I feel like the way that other men perceive us is not our fault.

00:27:53.340 And we shouldn't be held accountable for that because when we show up, we're not saying

00:27:57.760 that we want something.

00:27:59.200 We just want to go out and have fun.

00:28:01.480 And I have a boyfriend and I go out alone and well, not alone, but with my friends and

00:28:06.920 he goes out with his friends and we're both fine with that and nothing has happened.

00:28:10.840 Nothing bad has come out of that.

00:28:12.260 That's totally fine.

00:28:12.820 So I'll address that in just a sec.

00:28:15.540 So why, if you want to spend time with your friends, why go to a loud, noisy place surrounded

00:28:25.220 with a bunch of other drunk people when you can go to BevMo, go get a ball of wine and

00:28:30.260 just have a quiet night in with your girlfriends.

00:28:32.260 Why go specifically?

00:28:33.760 And also not to mention the cost of the alcohol at a bar is what the markup is two times,

00:28:38.200 three times, three times as much as it, what it would otherwise cost if you just bought

00:28:42.540 it at the liquor store.

00:28:43.820 So there's obviously some component of it's a social gathering venue and there's an opportunity

00:28:51.140 to meet people.

00:28:53.720 Otherwise, why go to the bar?

00:28:56.000 For me personally, it's the music.

00:28:58.760 It's the iTunes.

00:29:00.440 No, no.

00:29:01.440 It's the loud.

00:29:02.200 Spotify.

00:29:02.680 No, it's the loud bass.

00:29:05.660 It's the music just be all consuming.

00:29:09.280 Like, I can't do that in my apartment.

00:29:11.100 I'd get evicted.

00:29:12.360 And also like meeting other girlfriends too.

00:29:14.880 Oh my gosh.

00:29:15.500 When you meet a girlfriend in the bathroom.

00:29:18.100 At a bar.

00:29:18.800 Yes.

00:29:20.200 We're just like seeing events happen.

00:29:21.840 It's for sure.

00:29:22.580 Like people watching.

00:29:23.840 Yeah.

00:29:24.100 It's fun.

00:29:24.640 People watching at a bar is so much fun.

00:29:28.400 Okay.

00:29:28.640 So you mentioned the cheating thing.

00:29:31.520 You know, you go out to the bar and you have a boyfriend or whatever and he has his

00:29:35.320 you know, he goes out to.

00:29:39.180 Do you think alcohol adds to the potentiality of infidelity?

00:29:44.820 100%.

00:29:45.220 So if someone's in a party environment and they've been drinking, you think that that

00:29:51.300 could potentially add to the potential of infidelity?

00:29:56.040 Personally, I think the way I go by alcohol doesn't like make you choose the decisions

00:30:05.380 you choose.

00:30:06.240 It just makes you care less about the decisions you choose.

00:30:09.800 Like I know when I've been like really, really drunk, I still like have some sense of what

00:30:15.880 I'm doing and what's wrong and what's right.

00:30:17.500 Unless obviously I'm like blackout drunk and like completely don't know what's going

00:30:21.800 on.

00:30:22.160 But you know, I've been drunk and I've gone out and I've been really, really drunk.

00:30:26.540 And at the end of the day, I know that I have a boyfriend and that I am loyal to this

00:30:32.660 person and that I know that if I flirt with someone else, that's cheating.

00:30:38.460 So personally, I feel like alcohol just kind of brings out more of your true intentions

00:30:42.060 in a way, like when I've had boyfriends in the past and I've gotten drunk without them,

00:30:46.200 I like don't go to other guys.

00:30:48.300 I text them or I call them and they're like, oh my God, I miss you, you know, or I'm hanging

00:30:53.360 out with my friends.

00:30:54.380 Like it's, that's just me because I'm loyal, but I feel like with a lot of people who aren't

00:30:58.580 loyal, alcohol can bring out them being like, oh, I could get someone else.

00:31:03.360 I completely agree with Ashley.

00:31:05.480 I mean, I feel like, again, it depends on the person.

00:31:08.160 It's not the alcohol, it's the person.

00:31:09.640 Like, again, using my boyfriend and I as an example, you can ask her, she's my roommate,

00:31:14.120 we live together.

00:31:14.860 All I do when I'm drunk is talk about how badly I want to be with my boyfriend and I

00:31:18.820 call him and I text him and he's the other, he's the same way.

00:31:21.600 So like, it depends.

00:31:22.880 If you trust your partner, then you can do whatever you want.

00:31:27.020 It's just, you're, you're putting your relationship at risk.

00:31:32.260 But I'm not.

00:31:33.140 Not you.

00:31:34.020 I'm not saying you specifically.

00:31:35.280 I'm not saying you specifically, but it's, it's just about what you accept in terms of

00:31:42.120 another person's behavior.

00:31:43.380 I feel like part of being in a monogamous committed relationship means closing off your

00:31:49.000 options, including the potential of a possible better option.

00:31:52.560 And so that's the basis of getting commitment.

00:31:55.260 So it happens to be the case.

00:31:57.420 Like when women go to the club, you're kind of still keeping your options open.

00:32:02.720 Whereas it's very men's experience and women's experience in a nightclub bar or other sort

00:32:08.520 of party type environment is totally opposite, totally different.

00:32:13.840 But again, that's not our fault.

00:32:15.500 We're not, we're not.

00:32:17.080 It's, it's not your fault.

00:32:18.240 Yeah.

00:32:18.400 But we're not, not committing because we decide to go out and have fun with our friends.

00:32:22.780 And it depends like, okay, if the, if she wants to go to a birthday party, it's a couple

00:32:27.460 of times a year or once a year, me personally, some guys might still even have an issue with

00:32:32.040 that.

00:32:32.260 For me, I wouldn't mind, but if she's, I guess my point of view is, is if she wants to consistently

00:32:38.540 be going, let's say every week out to a bar or club, that's going to be a problem for

00:32:45.040 me.

00:32:45.400 Then she's not the girl for you.

00:32:46.720 And that's totally fine.

00:32:47.720 And I'd be upfront with that.

00:32:48.900 And, and it would never be a controlling thing.

00:32:51.620 I would just break up with her.

00:32:52.960 Yeah.

00:32:53.400 And that's like, you wouldn't be in the relationship in the first place because you would know that

00:32:57.200 that's something that she likes to do.

00:32:58.720 Yeah.

00:32:58.920 And that's great because you know what you want.

00:33:01.640 I might try to save a girl though.

00:33:03.700 I'm a, save her from the club.

00:33:05.260 Don't, don't, don't.

00:33:05.520 I'm a save her from the club.

00:33:06.420 It's not up to you to save women.

00:33:08.860 It's not up to you.

00:33:09.680 It's not your responsibility.

00:33:10.560 It's kind of.

00:33:11.140 I might try.

00:33:11.620 Okay.

00:33:11.820 But I also think unless somebody is like blatantly being hurt, it's not your responsibility to try

00:33:16.820 to change their habits because if somebody doesn't want to change, they're not going

00:33:21.880 to.

00:33:22.680 Yeah.

00:33:22.760 But that's, I mean, there, when you get into a relationship, you, you change your behavior.

00:33:30.160 For example, if, if, if you're not in committed to anybody, maybe before that you're entertaining

00:33:36.960 multiple options.

00:33:37.720 Maybe you're sleeping with four different people.

00:33:39.380 When you get into the relationship, if you want commitment from that other person, that

00:33:43.300 other person is going to say, I mean, whether implied or covertly expressed, you can't sleep

00:33:50.120 with other people anymore.

00:33:53.360 So it's just about boundaries.

00:33:55.740 But I also think all relationships have different boundaries.

00:33:58.320 Like you just have to be clear with it.

00:34:00.220 Some people don't want their significant other to go out and other people do.

00:34:03.920 It just depends on your relationship and like what boundaries you set with each other.

00:34:08.520 And also know what you're willing to sacrifice to make that relationship work.

00:34:12.440 And also know if making that sacrifice is going to be worth it in the end.

00:34:16.220 I also just don't think we should generalize like all women who go to the bars are keeping

00:34:20.400 their options open because I don't.

00:34:22.660 Yeah.

00:34:22.820 I think we should just ixnay all women.

00:34:25.800 Yeah.

00:34:26.740 Yeah.

00:34:28.000 I'm going to, okay.

00:34:28.880 I have to paint a dream world hypothetical scenario here for you guys.

00:34:32.480 Just, just to sort of give you a sense of what, what it's like from the guy's perspective.

00:34:38.340 So we're going to create a dream world since let's be honest, like unless as a guy you're

00:34:43.220 super famous, girls just don't hit up guys.

00:34:46.460 Like in the example I'm about to provide in the real world, like the vast majority of

00:34:51.480 men who go out to parties, clubs, bars, straight up, get ignored, uh, if they don't make the

00:34:56.480 first move.

00:34:56.940 So this is a hypothetical scenario.

00:34:59.240 I want you guys to listen to this.

00:35:00.400 Would you be okay with your long-term monogamous partner going to a nightclub bar or party type

00:35:07.320 environment where throughout the course of the night, he's going to get approached, flirted

00:35:11.560 with, and sexually pursued by numerous attractive women, some of which are more attractive than

00:35:17.140 you and could potentially be a better partner than you.

00:35:20.260 These women are buying him drinks, maybe getting him drunk and enthusiastically want to sleep

00:35:26.500 with him that night and steal him away from you.

00:35:29.600 It also just happens to be the case that maybe you guys had an argument earlier on in the

00:35:34.520 day and his single man hoe friends are rallying, being a bad influence, however you want to

00:35:41.580 take that.

00:35:42.700 Maybe they're not a huge fan of you because you've been, you know, hanging out with him

00:35:47.320 a little bit more.

00:35:48.720 Would you be okay with that?

00:35:50.360 Yes.

00:35:51.020 You'd be okay with that scenario.

00:35:52.520 The thing is, I think at the end of the day, it's about trust.

00:35:56.840 And if you break that trust and those boundaries that you set beforehand going into that, then

00:36:02.060 it's like, no matter how long the relationship is, it's clear that that's not your person

00:36:07.840 and that's just, you know, if they're willing to break those boundaries, then that's not

00:36:12.320 really like, you know, the person for you.

00:36:15.420 If he breaks my trust and I don't want him and I'm like, okay, thank you.

00:36:18.400 Now it's time for the next.

00:36:19.580 Like now I can like figure out what I want and what I don't want.

00:36:23.320 And I'm one step closer to finding like the right person.

00:36:26.560 And then a guy will show you his true intentions.

00:36:28.440 If he's put in that situation, like if you don't control him, he will show you the kind

00:36:32.680 of man he is.

00:36:33.460 So if he is put in that situation, you'll see the kind of man he is.

00:36:37.600 Because the thing is also, there's always going to be people trying to get at you or

00:36:42.240 trying to get at your boyfriend.

00:36:44.080 It's about how you or they react.

00:36:46.480 It's not about the other people.

00:36:48.080 Like, you know, it's just about your reaction.

00:36:50.700 That's why I also like never understand why like girls will beat down other girls when

00:36:56.180 their boyfriend was in the wrong in like a situation like that.

00:36:58.740 If the girl didn't know, of course.

00:37:00.560 I just think it's really stupid how like girls like blindly go like fighting the other girl

00:37:06.820 instead of like breaking up with their boyfriend or talking to him about it.

00:37:10.340 I think it's really stupid.

00:37:12.060 I agree.

00:37:12.980 Love is blind.

00:37:13.800 I'm trying to, okay, my, I don't think I'm going to be able to convince you guys on this

00:37:19.600 one, but I'm trying to think if there's another, what do you guys think about if your partner

00:37:29.100 was going to hang out alone with someone of the opposite sex at night alone at their place?

00:37:40.460 Any issues there?

00:37:41.560 Why are they doing it?

00:37:42.520 Why would they?

00:37:43.440 They're just friends.

00:37:44.500 They're just friends.

00:37:45.220 You know, you trust.

00:37:46.000 What about the trust guys?

00:37:47.060 We're talking about trust.

00:37:47.800 Did they ask if I wanted to come?

00:37:49.420 No, they, I mean, no, it's just a one-on-one hangout.

00:37:51.760 They're, they're friends, you know.

00:37:53.200 I think personally, if it's a friend that I have met and that I know and that isn't just

00:38:00.000 like out of nowhere, you know, like has never been mentioned before, then that would be

00:38:04.520 fine.

00:38:05.080 I would kind of be a little bit skeptical, but you know, that trust is still there at the

00:38:11.380 end of the day.

00:38:11.880 That's what relationships have, right?

00:38:13.400 But if they do break the trust, like I've said before, it's, then that's on them and

00:38:18.600 that's the path that they want to take.

00:38:20.720 And then it would just be time for me to move on and kind of figure out someone else who

00:38:26.800 I can put my actual trust into.

00:38:29.000 I think no matter what, with all of these situations, at least that you're giving us,

00:38:33.300 it's all seemingly about like the opposite side.

00:38:36.240 Obviously we've all said, yeah, go ahead, like do whatever.

00:38:39.100 But in reality, it's like, I mean, no matter what, it's about control.

00:38:44.960 And so from other people's perspectives, I guess, like no matter what, if we don't say,

00:38:50.340 yeah, you can go do whatever you want, that's looking at us like we're being controlling and

00:38:55.000 no matter what, men aren't going to like that unless they, you know, want a controlling

00:38:59.460 woman if you're into that.

00:39:00.540 But I don't know.

00:39:03.700 I just feel like you can't really win in a situation like this because yeah, I can go

00:39:07.540 ahead and say, oh yeah, go ahead, like go have a sleepover with your girlfriend that

00:39:12.100 you know.

00:39:13.500 And I don't care, but I mean, sure, I care, but I'm not saying I'm going to control you.

00:39:19.700 You can do whatever you want, no matter what.

00:39:22.580 They're going to do what they want to do.

00:39:23.760 You would feel a certain type of way about that.

00:39:27.200 Yeah.

00:39:27.540 I feel like it honestly just depends on like their friendship.

00:39:30.340 Because again, like you were saying was like if I knew them and I like know their close

00:39:36.280 friends and I've met them and we have a good relationship, obviously I'd be like, go ahead.

00:39:40.960 Like I have no issue with that.

00:39:42.420 But if it's some random girl, they're like, oh yeah, like we've been friends for years,

00:39:45.520 but we've been dating for seven months and I've never heard of her.

00:39:48.940 Yeah.

00:39:49.280 It's kind of like where did she come from?

00:39:50.620 Yeah.

00:39:50.900 I don't know where.

00:39:51.460 Yeah.

00:39:51.640 It depends on the circumstances, I guess.

00:39:53.820 What about hanging out with an ex?

00:39:57.120 We'll go around the table on this.

00:39:59.380 So would you be okay with your boyfriend hanging out with his ex-girlfriend?

00:40:05.720 So they're still friends.

00:40:06.520 Go ahead.

00:40:06.980 We'll start here.

00:40:07.580 I think that's disrespectful.

00:40:10.520 Yeah.

00:40:11.020 No, I wouldn't be okay with that, but I also wouldn't do it.

00:40:14.060 So again, it goes both ways.

00:40:15.740 It honestly really depends because it's like a little different.

00:40:18.860 Like what if they're in the same friend group and it's like a friend thing, you know,

00:40:23.200 like with multiple people, that's one thing.

00:40:25.060 I think it really just depends on the situation, but like in general, I feel like I would be

00:40:28.940 pretty uncomfortable with it, but also it could be something different because I've

00:40:34.020 had experiences where dating people in the same friend group.

00:40:37.440 Okay.

00:40:38.660 Absolutely.

00:40:39.120 I feel like it depends on the situation because again, with being in the same friend group,

00:40:42.620 it's like if they dated like what, eight years ago and yeah, you're hanging out in the

00:40:46.920 same friend group now, no issue.

00:40:48.540 But if you guys, let's say, you know, you started dating them a month ago and they broke

00:40:52.760 up like a month before you guys started dating.

00:40:55.940 Yeah, no way.

00:40:57.040 Like that's weird.

00:40:58.600 So, um, I don't know because I'm thinking about it.

00:41:03.920 My, my last relationship, we were on and off for eight years and maintained being, maintained

00:41:12.560 being best friends when we were not.

00:41:14.760 And, and we went and dated other people during that time.

00:41:17.960 We officially got into relationship.

00:41:20.820 We're together for a year and a half.

00:41:22.560 We broke up.

00:41:23.500 Um, I ended up moving here and he's still one of my best friends.

00:41:26.640 And I, and I've even talked about saying, Hey, like when you get married to someone or

00:41:32.520 when you start dating someone, please make sure they're okay with us being friends because

00:41:36.420 you mean a lot to me.

00:41:38.160 You are one of my very dearest friends and I do not want to lose you when you start dating

00:41:43.640 someone else.

00:41:44.200 And I know that he will.

00:41:45.260 And so that's where I don't really know how to answer that question because I'm in a different

00:41:50.580 situation there.

00:41:51.520 Let me ask you a question on that.

00:41:52.760 So you guys were on and off again for eight years, you said, yeah, but you guys are not

00:41:57.760 currently on, we are not.

00:41:59.640 Okay.

00:41:59.820 So let's say the man of your dreams comes around and he has an issue with you being

00:42:08.600 friends with this guy.

00:42:10.940 Then he's not the man of my dreams.

00:42:13.140 Okay.

00:42:13.440 So you're going to side with staying friends with your ex?

00:42:17.060 Well, think about it this way.

00:42:18.700 If he said the same exact thing to my best girlfriend, okay, if somebody is telling me

00:42:25.260 to not have a certain person who's been in my life for a considerable amount of time,

00:42:30.940 that's going to be something I have to think about.

00:42:34.160 What's what, why are they coming to me asking that?

00:42:37.240 Are they coming from a place of insecurity?

00:42:39.480 Did I do something to create that insecurity or is it just in them?

00:42:43.960 I mean, there's a certain impropriety though, because if, if it was just a platonic male

00:42:48.120 friend and there was never any history of anything, but you guys were on again, off

00:42:52.840 again for eight years.

00:42:54.160 Who knows down the, uh, sorry, getting tongue tied here.

00:42:58.740 Who knows down the path?

00:43:00.680 If something rekindles there, you guys were on again, off again.

00:43:03.480 I mean, not only that, it's just kind of like you were intimate with another man.

00:43:08.320 You were intimate with this other guy.

00:43:10.060 So you guys going to be at, he's going to be at the wedding.

00:43:13.620 And this is someone that you previously fucked, like, excuse my French, but it's just

00:43:17.060 like, it's a sort of impropriety.

00:43:20.780 Like if this is the guy you're going to marry, I don't know.

00:43:24.780 Well, it also wouldn't be like, it would, I would also make sure that, you know, when

00:43:31.780 you're introducing your friends to your significant other, that would be one of those friends that

00:43:36.600 I introduce and he would, and the guy that I was with, if I was introducing him to this

00:43:42.080 person, I would make sure he knew all of the history.

00:43:44.740 So there's nothing hidden there.

00:43:47.380 But that's also something that I just don't think I can answer right now because I'm not

00:43:52.880 in that situation, but I don't know what I would do.

00:43:55.500 But so you would let everything else, the guy of your dreams, you would let him go if

00:44:01.820 he didn't want you seeing your ex-boyfriend?

00:44:06.100 I am saying that I would not be able to answer that right now because I'm not in a place where

00:44:10.660 I could say yes or no, because this is talking about a friendship that I've had for over 10

00:44:18.040 years.

00:44:18.820 Sure.

00:44:19.560 So I cannot answer that.

00:44:21.600 That's a tough one.

00:44:23.460 Yeah.

00:44:23.660 I have a, I have a sense that a lot of men are going to, would have an issue with that,

00:44:27.600 with someone remaining friends with someone that they've more sleeping with for, well,

00:44:34.080 any period of time.

00:44:35.120 But that also, but that brings in why communication is so important in relationships, communication

00:44:41.300 about everything, including your past, about what's happened in the past.

00:44:47.120 That's totally fine.

00:44:47.960 I, but you might, it might be a deal breaker for guys too.

00:44:53.260 I'll just have to cross that bridge when I'm there.

00:44:55.220 Fair enough.

00:44:56.020 Fair enough.

00:44:56.460 Go ahead.

00:44:57.280 Uh, personally, I don't think I would be comfortable with it just because your ex is like, obviously

00:45:04.540 dating someone for a month.

00:45:06.700 You don't get to kind of explore each other deep down, but you'd still share those like

00:45:13.640 intimate moments, like sex, you know, like that's intimate.

00:45:17.120 Like you've seen like your partner naked.

00:45:20.120 It's, it's close.

00:45:22.260 Um, so I personally wouldn't be comfortable with it, but I mean, I guess it's just situational.

00:45:28.780 I kind of agree as well.

00:45:30.340 I feel like if I was in that situation where I had a boyfriend, he says, let me introduce

00:45:34.700 you to this girl I've known for eight years and we fucked on and off.

00:45:38.120 Um, but we're still friends and we're going to stay close friends throughout our relationship.

00:45:43.980 Yeah.

00:45:44.260 Like it would, yeah, I feel like it would make me uncomfortable, but again, maybe that's

00:45:48.320 just not the person for me.

00:45:49.640 If it's, if I'm not comfortable with something like that, um, yeah, not a person I would want

00:45:55.040 to be with in the first place.

00:45:56.180 Also seeing like where I grew up, people kind of dated in friend groups a lot and it's really

00:46:05.000 difficult to kind of let your ex go, even when you're dating someone new, especially

00:46:10.700 when you're around each other so much, just because that comfortability is there and that's

00:46:16.660 just what, you know, it's easy to go back to.

00:46:18.580 So it's, it's, it's difficult for sure.

00:46:21.960 I mean, I can see how you can be friends with someone after and, you know, set those

00:46:25.540 boundaries, but I think there's higher chance of like rekindling something or going a step

00:46:31.260 further than just friends.

00:46:32.200 I agree with that.

00:46:32.600 I think you can be on good terms with the next, but regularly hanging out with them and also

00:46:38.940 just to get over the person.

00:46:41.900 I think there does need to be certainly a period of time of no contact.

00:46:47.640 Anyways, go ahead.

00:46:49.020 I feel like me, it kind of would just like depend on the situation for the scenario.

00:46:55.220 Were you born in the U.S.?

00:46:57.160 You have a slight accent, so.

00:46:58.740 I was born in the U.S., but both of my parents are from Bulgaria.

00:47:02.180 Okay.

00:47:02.620 So you speak Bulgarian?

00:47:04.180 Yeah.

00:47:04.580 Okay.

00:47:05.200 Does someone at this table speak French?

00:47:07.040 I do.

00:47:07.780 Ah, okay.

00:47:08.760 Bonjour, ça va?

00:47:09.760 Oui, ça va.

00:47:10.700 C'est bien ça?

00:47:11.560 Tu, tu, uh, oh shit, you speak better French than me.

00:47:15.600 Hold on.

00:47:15.760 You're fluent or conversational.

00:47:19.960 I can, uh, fluent.

00:47:22.560 My speaking is like so, so sometimes, but everything else, yeah.

00:47:26.160 Qu'est-ce que tu penses de les hommes?

00:47:30.760 Les hommes?

00:47:31.180 Uh, j'aime bien les hommes.

00:47:34.040 C'est bien ça.

00:47:34.600 Okay.

00:47:35.560 Et bien donc, on fait les super chats.

00:47:38.500 Okay, you guys, we're going to do a couple of soup chats here.

00:47:41.140 Um, so let's see.

00:47:42.520 We have Jay with the $10 soup chat.

00:47:46.100 Thank you, man.

00:47:46.540 Thank you, Jay.

00:47:47.340 This is for the guys in Still Taking Girls Seriously in 2022.

00:47:53.360 Okay.

00:47:54.380 Um, thank you, Jay, for the $20 soup chat.

00:47:58.560 Pollux, thank you for the big $20 soup chat, man.

00:48:01.220 Hey, Brian, Jim from Bama here.

00:48:04.040 Bama?

00:48:04.880 Oh, Alabama.

00:48:05.840 Love the show.

00:48:06.520 Been following for a month or so.

00:48:07.820 Eye-opening.

00:48:08.580 Bring Liv back ASAP.

00:48:11.060 Yeah, she actually just texted me.

00:48:12.400 So, what's up, Liv?

00:48:13.420 She's watching the show.

00:48:15.160 Yeah, Liv, type in the chat.

00:48:17.480 Let them know who you are.

00:48:18.660 So, uh, yeah, but thank you, man.

00:48:20.180 Much appreciated.

00:48:20.780 Glad that you're, uh, enjoying the show.

00:48:23.820 We got Leonardo NoCaprio with the Canadian $10.

00:48:28.060 Thank you, man.

00:48:29.040 Brian, tell Sansa Stark it's unbecoming to wear undergarments in public.

00:48:34.000 I believe this is directed at, uh, you.

00:48:38.380 Apparently, you're Sansa Stark.

00:48:40.900 Me?

00:48:41.620 Yeah, I think he, yeah.

00:48:43.220 Oh.

00:48:45.260 It's unbecoming to wear undergarments in public?

00:48:48.080 This shirt is sold at Urban Outfitters.

00:48:50.480 Yeah, this is, like, the most popular top at Urban Outfitters.

00:48:53.780 Like, every girl has a shirt.

00:48:55.900 No, not me.

00:48:56.820 Is he talking about you, or?

00:48:58.180 Probably.

00:48:59.940 I don't know.

00:49:00.280 You do have red hair.

00:49:01.300 You're more Sansa.

00:49:02.400 I don't know who that is, so I'm sorry.

00:49:03.920 Yeah.

00:49:04.140 Sansa Stark?

00:49:05.100 Game of Thrones?

00:49:05.680 Game of Thrones.

00:49:05.980 Oh, no.

00:49:06.520 Yeah, I don't watch Game of Thrones.

00:49:08.440 You've never seen Game of Thrones?

00:49:09.520 I have not.

00:49:10.080 Anybody watching House of the Dragons?

00:49:11.760 Yes.

00:49:11.820 No.

00:49:12.160 Yes, I haven't finished it yet.

00:49:13.560 Oh, okay.

00:49:13.980 No spoilers.

00:49:14.720 No spoilers.

00:49:15.120 Guys in chat, don't read the chat.

00:49:16.520 It's okay.

00:49:17.000 All the guys in the chat can't help themselves.

00:49:19.400 Okay.

00:49:19.920 Holy shit.

00:49:20.620 Honestly, guys, I think House of the Dragon is better than Game of Thrones.

00:49:25.520 I think they are a strong tie.

00:49:28.700 But how deep are you?

00:49:30.020 Because the first few episodes are a bit slow.

00:49:31.560 Seven, so seven.

00:49:35.100 I just finished the big time jump.

00:49:37.640 I had never seen Game of Thrones.

00:49:40.580 I tried to watch it and couldn't get past the first episode in the beginning.

00:49:45.200 And then I re-watched the whole thing with my boyfriend and now we're on House of the

00:49:48.000 Dragon.

00:49:48.620 And I think I still have to see where this story goes further.

00:49:54.080 But so far, have you seen the full thing?

00:49:56.240 House of the Dragon?

00:49:57.000 Yeah.

00:49:57.700 Yes.

00:49:58.100 It's pretty crazy what just happened in the last episode.

00:50:04.320 Yeah.

00:50:04.760 I have no words.

00:50:05.900 It's tough because picking off.

00:50:07.740 No spoilers.

00:50:08.920 Yeah.

00:50:09.160 Picking off what, I mean, how terribly Game of Thrones ended.

00:50:14.220 I mean, this is obviously a step up from the end of Game of Thrones.

00:50:18.040 I mean, it's hard to say, you know, is it, those first few seasons of Game of Thrones

00:50:23.580 were really pretty fantastic.

00:50:25.560 So, but I think House of the Dragons, I kind of like the, it's a bit more getting into the

00:50:32.060 political, like the political movement and maneuvering and which I kind of like quite

00:50:37.620 a bit.

00:50:38.140 So.

00:50:38.420 Do you, do you think that if the person chosen to rule right now wasn't that person, do you

00:50:49.700 think Game of Thrones would have been different?

00:50:54.460 Wait.

00:50:54.780 Ended differently?

00:50:55.980 Like.

00:50:56.680 The showrunners?

00:50:57.660 Are you talking?

00:50:58.280 Y'all are making me so nervous right now.

00:50:59.960 Are you talking about the showrunners for Game of Thrones?

00:51:02.200 No.

00:51:02.680 Just like who became the person sitting on the throne right now.

00:51:07.820 Oh, Bran?

00:51:08.320 And House of the Dragon.

00:51:09.420 Oh, wait.

00:51:10.060 Are we talking about the original Game of Thrones?

00:51:12.640 Wait, you're talking about.

00:51:13.340 Like, I'm talking about House of the Dragon.

00:51:14.280 Because this is dated, this is set back before Game of Thrones.

00:51:19.260 Yeah.

00:51:20.040 So.

00:51:21.140 What's your question?

00:51:22.260 So if, so if, you know, there's the two people who are in the running for the throne.

00:51:27.940 Yeah.

00:51:28.240 Aegon.

00:51:29.320 And then.

00:51:30.120 And Rhaenyra.

00:51:30.900 And Rhaenyra.

00:51:31.400 So if the person who's on the throne at the end of the season was switched, do you think

00:51:38.460 Game of Thrones would have been different?

00:51:42.660 Game of Thrones would have been different?

00:51:44.340 Like, the ruling of everything.

00:51:46.540 Like, timeline.

00:51:48.560 Well, I mean, there's more seasons to come, so.

00:51:52.140 Okay, true.

00:51:52.760 True, true, true.

00:51:53.140 I mean, whoever's on the Iron Throne now might not be, and this is just speculation, might

00:51:58.980 not be who's going to be on the Iron Throne at the end of House of the Dragon.

00:52:04.420 So.

00:52:06.680 Yeah, but certainly I'm not super, well, I don't know.

00:52:11.380 Anyways, I'll have to, I'll think about that.

00:52:13.800 I'll get back to you.

00:52:14.360 I'll get back to you on that one.

00:52:15.720 Let's see.

00:52:16.260 Okay, we got.

00:52:18.260 Yo, thank you for the other Canadian $10.

00:52:21.100 Sask Finest.

00:52:21.800 Thank you, man.

00:52:22.200 Ladies, you're going to Lion's Den, the club where alcohol is involved.

00:52:25.940 Oh, going to the Lion's Den, the club where alcohol is involved.

00:52:28.660 And you expect us to take you seriously.

00:52:32.040 Nah, we good.

00:52:34.120 Okay, so this is in respect to our conversation about being in a relationship, but also continuing

00:52:41.040 keeping, basically keeping your options open.

00:52:43.340 At least my position.

00:52:44.340 Some of the girls disagree on that.

00:52:46.360 Well, it sounds like with a comment like that, we should keep our options open.

00:52:50.200 Oh, shots fired.

00:52:51.660 Sask Finest.

00:52:53.640 Send back your harshest Canadian insults.

00:52:56.680 Okay.

00:52:57.380 Alex Mack with the $10 soup chat.

00:52:59.700 Toxic and controlling, aka a man that has self-respect, standards, and knows bullshit when

00:53:05.260 he sees it.

00:53:06.240 Get a new playbook, ladies, other than shaming language.

00:53:09.320 These squirrels ain't loyal.

00:53:12.740 I think the lyric is these hoes, but I could also be wrong.

00:53:17.720 These hoes ain't loyal.

00:53:18.640 Also just, it's also just like, say you're insecure, because most of the time a toxic

00:53:23.460 controlling man who goes out and cheats and he's like, don't wear that, don't go out

00:53:27.900 with your girls, tends to be insecure because, you know, they haven't fully loved themselves

00:53:33.160 if they're like, placing on all these boundaries on you and then putting it back on you and

00:53:37.880 blaming you.

00:53:38.620 Also, why are you identifying as toxic and controlling in the first place?

00:53:43.000 Because if you've been called that, clearly there's an issue there.

00:53:46.140 Yeah, sweetie.

00:53:46.520 If you had self-respect, you wouldn't be called that.

00:53:51.420 Or is it, like he said, just the playbook, just shaming language used to stifle men's

00:53:59.160 preferences, standards, and boundaries?

00:54:02.020 I think men and women have a different playbook.

00:54:06.420 Word A.

00:54:06.980 Alex Mack, thank you for the $10 soup chat.

00:54:09.380 By the way, are you the NFL player?

00:54:11.880 Okay.

00:54:12.660 Moving on.

00:54:13.460 Red Misfit, thank you for the $10 soup chat.

00:54:15.980 I keep hearing girls want a guy who can make them laugh.

00:54:19.280 What does that mean?

00:54:20.820 Do they want me to be Dave Chappelle, Louis CK?

00:54:23.300 Explain, please.

00:54:25.040 Most guys aren't comedians and comedy is subjective.

00:54:29.100 We can go around the table really quick on this.

00:54:32.000 So, one, do you want a guy who's funny who can make you laugh?

00:54:35.500 And what does that mean?

00:54:39.520 I want a guy who's funny.

00:54:40.940 That's really important to me.

00:54:42.260 Someone I can laugh with and, like, just someone who's lighthearted and I can just, I don't

00:54:47.040 know.

00:54:47.240 They don't have to be a comedian, but if they're, like, easy to get along with, I can laugh

00:54:50.720 with them.

00:54:52.080 Yeah, I agree.

00:54:53.260 Just match my energy.

00:54:55.200 And that's pretty much all that I need.

00:54:56.820 You don't have to be, like, the funniest person in the world.

00:54:58.720 But if you have the same energy as me, that's good enough.

00:55:01.080 You can't make me laugh at all.

00:55:02.520 You're kind of boring.

00:55:04.600 Wait, what?

00:55:07.640 Like, I feel like I laugh generally pretty easily, but also, like, I want a guy who can

00:55:12.040 make me laugh when I'm sad or, like, if you're watching a movie or something, just say something

00:55:16.100 funny.

00:55:16.480 Like, it's really not that hard.

00:55:18.300 It's really not that hard to be funny?

00:55:20.740 Okay.

00:55:20.860 Yeah, just occasionally.

00:55:21.780 You don't have to be a comedian, but, like, make me laugh.

00:55:24.820 Are you able to make guys laugh?

00:55:26.720 Yes.

00:55:27.080 Not that that's really something that guys particularly care about, but go ahead.

00:55:32.080 I was just going to say, I mean, I guess, like, what?

00:55:35.060 Everyone laughs.

00:55:36.100 Like, you don't have to be a comedian.

00:55:37.600 Like, I'm not asking you to, like, make me laugh right now.

00:55:40.280 Like, you know, like, you're going to make me laugh eventually.

00:55:42.760 But, yeah, I don't know.

00:55:45.160 Asking for it, like, I want a guy who can make me laugh.

00:55:47.760 I think it's kind of weird.

00:55:49.080 Like, a guy's going to make you laugh if you like him.

00:55:51.720 That's just how it is.

00:55:52.440 That's a good point.

00:55:53.020 Like, if you like the guy, he's probably.

00:55:55.460 Yeah.

00:55:55.560 So, if you're just not interested, like, don't take it personally.

00:55:58.520 Although there are definitely, I mean, there are men who are just pretty serious men that are not particularly comedic.

00:56:05.200 Then I guess you're looking for someone who wants a serious man.

00:56:08.420 It's just personal preference.

00:56:09.640 Yeah, I absolutely love it when men make me laugh.

00:56:14.060 Tell me a joke.

00:56:15.220 Do a funny prank.

00:56:16.440 I love on TikTok seeing those couples' pranks.

00:56:19.280 I think they're so funny.

00:56:20.880 And my last partner, I said, can we do this?

00:56:22.940 And he said, within reason, Emily.

00:56:25.400 And so, it wasn't within reason, though, for me.

00:56:29.500 Go hard or go home.

00:56:30.660 Did he put saran wrap over the toilet seat?

00:56:36.320 No.

00:56:36.920 He didn't.

00:56:37.280 No.

00:56:38.180 He would leave the toilet seat up, and I wouldn't look, and I would fall into the few times.

00:56:43.880 Oh, that's a good one.

00:56:44.680 But that was not a joke.

00:56:46.220 That was just him not remembering.

00:56:48.980 No, I think there was a couple things that I did with a big blow-up dinosaur costume in the dark where he would come home, and all of a sudden, I was just there.

00:56:56.720 Are you a furry?

00:57:04.100 Am I?

00:57:05.260 Well, I guess dinosaurs aren't really furry, so are you a dino?

00:57:08.720 No, it's one of those costumes, and then you turn it on, and it blows up air.

00:57:11.500 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:57:12.020 But was it like a kink thing?

00:57:13.960 No, it was just I was trying to scare the shit out of him.

00:57:16.280 Like, he didn't ask you, like, hey, it really turned me on if you put that dinosaur costume on.

00:57:21.040 No, it was more so me trying to scare him, which makes me laugh.

00:57:26.720 Sure, okay.

00:57:29.680 I think, I don't know who said it, but if you obviously like the person, then they would be funny to you.

00:57:35.720 And I think it also depends on, like, what humor you think is funny.

00:57:39.820 Like, if you guys kind of match humor, I think it's easy to get along and easy to laugh.

00:57:44.040 Okay.

00:57:44.340 That's exactly what I was going to say.

00:57:47.020 I feel like the majority of people prefer to be with someone that makes them laugh, but, like, everyone has, like, a different sense of humor.

00:57:53.440 Like, I'm sure, like, all of us do, and I feel like it's especially nice when you have someone that matches your sense of humor.

00:58:00.600 For example, I talked to this guy, and he, it was just, like, every other sentence or every sentence was a sarcastic comment, and it was just, like, too much.

00:58:09.560 Like, it kind of gave me the ick.

00:58:10.860 Like, I was just, like, bro, like, can you be serious?

00:58:13.500 Like, you're acting like a little boy.

00:58:15.460 But, yeah.

00:58:16.100 Hmm.

00:58:16.340 I guess it's fine balance.

00:58:18.200 I want to ask the chat.

00:58:20.120 Chat.

00:58:21.220 One in the chat, if a woman being funny is high on your priority.

00:58:27.180 Hold on.

00:58:27.840 Let me think how I want to frame this.

00:58:29.940 One in the chat, if you don't care about if a woman's funny.

00:58:35.120 Two in the chat, if you want a woman to be funny.

00:58:38.700 Your partner, your girlfriend, whatever.

00:58:40.600 One in the chat, if you don't care if a girl's funny.

00:58:42.940 Two in the chat, if you do care, you want your girlfriend to be funny, let's say.

00:58:49.680 Okay, we've got a couple twos, a bunch of ones.

00:58:54.680 Okay, a little mixed bag there.

00:58:56.800 I think it's leaning a bit more towards one.

00:58:59.920 Yeah, I think.

00:59:00.260 I've never met a funny woman.

00:59:01.860 Have you ever met a woman?

00:59:04.960 Yeah, I think, yeah, when it comes to men, that's very low on the totem pole of, I think, what men want.

00:59:12.940 But, yeah.

00:59:15.020 Yeah, what do men want?

00:59:17.460 We should get into that.

00:59:19.060 Let me finish up the super chats here.

00:59:23.500 Let's see.

00:59:24.940 I wanted to touch.

00:59:27.900 Okay.

00:59:28.540 Let me do the super chats, and then we'll touch on that one.

00:59:32.540 Jay, thank you for the $10 super chat.

00:59:33.840 This panel is giving me wizard sleeve vibes.

00:59:36.260 Dude, come on, man.

00:59:37.100 But they cute, though.

00:59:39.780 Okay.

00:59:41.840 We got feisty here, all labia matter.

00:59:46.480 Guys, let's not shame.

00:59:47.720 We shouldn't shame women.

00:59:50.140 I don't know if you guys are familiar with a wizard sleeve term.

00:59:52.760 I don't know what that means.

00:59:54.600 Okay, we should not shame women if they have a large labia.

00:59:58.800 A wizard sleeve.

01:00:00.120 Have you guys heard these terms?

01:00:01.440 No.

01:00:02.940 Please elaborate.

01:00:03.940 Beef curtains.

01:00:07.060 Like a big vagina?

01:00:10.620 Like the labia is large.

01:00:14.160 So you're saying men know what a labia is, but not a clit?

01:00:19.500 Well, they probably know about the clit.

01:00:21.520 They don't even know.

01:00:22.100 They don't know what the labia is.

01:00:23.480 Maybe.

01:00:23.860 I don't know.

01:00:24.540 But it's unfortunate that women are shamed if they have a large labia.

01:00:30.260 I think.

01:00:31.440 Right, chat?

01:00:32.300 All labia matter in the chat.

01:00:33.640 I'm going to be honest.

01:00:33.980 I don't think I've ever heard anyone talk about a woman's sleeve.

01:00:36.780 I've never ever heard that.

01:00:36.800 Yeah.

01:00:37.240 You've never heard of this?

01:00:38.460 I've never heard of this.

01:00:38.880 Okay, so there's innies and there's outies.

01:00:42.340 I've heard innies and outies.

01:00:45.480 I don't think I've ever heard of that as like a topic of discussion.

01:00:48.720 Arby's?

01:00:49.520 Never?

01:00:50.280 Well, I've heard that one, but I've never heard like anything.

01:00:53.360 It's unfortunate.

01:00:53.880 I guess I've just never put myself around people that are going to say like that kind

01:00:58.480 of thing about women.

01:00:59.340 Everyone is different, just like guys are different, who have different sizes, so.

01:01:04.500 You coming?

01:01:04.980 Yeah.

01:01:06.400 Based.

01:01:07.420 No, but it is unfortunate, though, that women get shamed if they've got a large labia.

01:01:14.480 You know who you are.

01:01:15.640 My DMs are open.

01:01:16.340 Okay, so.

01:01:17.540 But yeah, it's also guys get shamed for if they're not packing.

01:01:21.380 Yeah, I actually think no one should be shamed for how they came out.

01:01:26.520 Yeah.

01:01:26.960 You for me?

01:01:27.700 Yeah.

01:01:28.040 I agree completely.

01:01:29.620 Love yourself.

01:01:30.660 Preach it.

01:01:31.020 Yeah, I feel like that's kind of the equivalent to uncircumcised and circumcised men, but like

01:01:36.640 I don't think the majority of us girls care.

01:01:39.980 Like, at least I don't.

01:01:41.700 Does it really make a difference to me?

01:01:42.180 We can go around the panel really quick on that.

01:01:43.720 Does anybody have a circumcised or not circumcised preference?

01:01:51.020 No.

01:01:51.960 Depends on how they use it.

01:01:54.960 No.

01:01:55.900 I don't think so.

01:01:56.680 No.

01:01:57.860 I haven't had.

01:01:59.400 Closer to Mike.

01:02:00.280 I have never been with a guy who is not circumcised, so I wouldn't know.

01:02:06.400 Yeah, me too.

01:02:07.240 Honestly.

01:02:08.040 I don't think there's much of a difference when they're erect, so.

01:02:11.440 I literally can't tell the difference.

01:02:12.560 Well, then, yeah, I wouldn't care.

01:02:13.200 There was just no difference.

01:02:15.560 Flaccid is another story, but.

01:02:18.880 Yeah, I wouldn't know either.

01:02:20.160 Okay.

01:02:21.220 I wouldn't know.

01:02:23.220 Okay.

01:02:24.420 That took an interesting turn.

01:02:26.140 Anyways.

01:02:28.080 So, let's see.

01:02:29.520 We did some super chats.

01:02:30.960 We got one question here.

01:02:32.440 Okay, we got this one.

01:02:33.340 Stifler asked the ladies to rate themselves on a scale of one to ten.

01:02:39.260 We'll go around really quick.

01:02:41.200 Go ahead.

01:02:41.680 What do we.

01:02:42.620 Your looks, your appearance.

01:02:43.540 Our looks.

01:02:43.960 One to ten.

01:02:44.440 I think I'm a ten, and I think everyone's a ten.

01:02:48.200 Okay.

01:02:49.640 I'd say I'm a ten as well.

01:02:51.820 Same with everybody here on this panel.

01:02:54.760 Yeah, definitely a ten.

01:02:57.500 You know, I'd call myself a good 9.5, but I think everybody else is a ten, so.

01:03:02.740 I don't think perfection should be rated on a scale, but a ten.

01:03:10.400 I agree with Ashley, but everybody here is a ten.

01:03:13.300 I would say ten, and I would say everybody else here is a ten as well.

01:03:16.900 All of you are tens.

01:03:21.860 You're all tens.

01:03:23.240 Self-love is really important.

01:03:26.180 Don't you think that's a bit of hubris?

01:03:28.840 You know, a little bit hubris, maybe?

01:03:31.440 Just a little?

01:03:31.980 No, I think you should be confident in how you look.

01:03:34.780 Well, you can be confident and still have a reasonable self-assessment of your physical appearance.

01:03:41.080 Again, everybody has their preference.

01:03:42.560 So, if I personally think that I'm a ten, that doesn't mean that everybody else is going to think that I'm a ten.

01:03:51.100 Okay.

01:03:52.780 So, I mean, if you're a ten, then, really, does anyone?

01:03:58.040 I mean, you're the only one.

01:03:59.240 You said 9.5, correct?

01:04:00.620 Yeah.

01:04:01.180 So, you're still fairly high, right?

01:04:04.680 I mean, I'm just like.

01:04:05.960 You sure you don't want to change to ten because all the other girls said ten, you know?

01:04:09.200 Do you want to change to ten?

01:04:10.200 I mean, in my opinion, I feel like I'm just like.

01:04:12.620 I mean, yeah, sure.

01:04:14.080 Everyone can think they're a ten.

01:04:15.480 I'm not going to say I am right out the gate.

01:04:18.220 Like, I know I'm not like.

01:04:20.120 No, I'm not everyone's type.

01:04:21.440 And so, I'm not a ten in everyone's eyes.

01:04:23.760 I may be a ten in mine.

01:04:25.200 But, you know, let's say if we're going on a scale.

01:04:28.780 A hundred people are ranking me.

01:04:30.820 I'm probably sure a 9.5.

01:04:34.040 So, a hundred people rank you.

01:04:35.920 They give you a 9.5.

01:04:37.200 I mean, that's high.

01:04:38.280 But, like, I feel like if everyone's going to say, oh, everyone's a ten, and there's at least one person who's probably not going to say that.

01:04:45.140 Okay.

01:04:45.360 So, I got a question for you guys.

01:04:47.820 By the way, I give myself, like, 6.9.

01:04:51.560 No, you're a ten now.

01:04:52.220 On a good day.

01:04:52.780 No, I'm not a ten.

01:04:54.020 I'm not a ten.

01:04:54.400 No, be confident.

01:04:55.400 You're a ten.

01:04:55.780 It's not about, it's not a confidence thing.

01:04:58.560 It is confidence.

01:04:59.360 It's not a confidence thing.

01:05:00.600 Confidence makes you more attractive.

01:05:01.320 It's a hubris, pride, ego thing.

01:05:04.680 But, okay.

01:05:05.140 So, if you're a ten, then that means there are no women who are more attractive than you.

01:05:10.920 Agree or disagree?

01:05:12.000 Wait, say the question again.

01:05:12.980 If you're a ten, there might be women who are as attractive than you, but there are no women who are more attractive than you.

01:05:20.680 Being attractive is so much more than just looks, though.

01:05:23.280 Exactly.

01:05:23.980 So much more.

01:05:24.620 But, okay, speaking physically, physically attractive.

01:05:29.160 I could think that I'm a ten and think another woman is more attractive than she's a ten.

01:05:32.860 So, she's an eleven?

01:05:34.020 I mean.

01:05:34.260 Sure, she could be.

01:05:35.240 Or it doesn't have a scale.

01:05:36.000 Or she could be a ten.

01:05:37.020 That's not how maths.

01:05:37.780 Where'd we get our scale?

01:05:39.360 That's not how the maths works.

01:05:41.700 Why do we even have a scale for, like, beauty and perfection anyways?

01:05:46.320 Do you object to the scale system?

01:05:48.600 Yes.

01:05:49.040 You guys have never done the whole, like, he's a ten, but he wears flip-flops.

01:05:52.680 Y'all never done that shit?

01:05:55.080 Come on.

01:05:55.640 It's a trend.

01:05:56.360 I think it's funny.

01:05:57.120 Everyone thinks it's funny.

01:05:58.080 Yeah.

01:05:58.660 But, I mean, we all make judgment calls about people.

01:06:03.000 But, so, okay.

01:06:03.600 I want to go around the table on this.

01:06:05.240 If you're a ten, will you also say that there are no women who are more attractive than you?

01:06:10.280 No, there definitely are.

01:06:11.460 The reason why I said ten is because you can't really rate that on a scale.

01:06:16.600 And people have different types, like, different preferences, like you were saying.

01:06:20.660 And I think that so many people could be beautiful.

01:06:24.580 But, like, I feel like the scale is a stupid way to calculate that, if that makes sense.

01:06:30.220 So, you're thinking a numerical rating system from one to ten is a stupid way to assess physical attractiveness.

01:06:38.840 Yes.

01:06:39.040 You take issue with it.

01:06:40.460 Yes.

01:06:40.780 Or you just think it's stupid.

01:06:41.680 Okay.

01:06:42.040 I just think it's stupid.

01:06:43.260 Okay.

01:06:43.700 I think there are definitely more, like, there are women that are more attractive than me.

01:06:48.880 But, I think using a scale to measure anyone in general is not really the best.

01:06:58.420 Because everyone, like she said, has different types.

01:07:00.860 But, also, a scale doesn't, like, it puts people down in a sense.

01:07:09.380 You know, like you said, like, you described yourself as a, as a what?

01:07:13.660 A six.

01:07:14.300 Six, 6.9 on a good day.

01:07:15.740 Six, 6.9.

01:07:16.860 But, in someone else's eyes, you could probably be their ten, you know.

01:07:20.920 So.

01:07:23.400 You already gave your take.

01:07:24.620 What's your thoughts?

01:07:25.840 So, there's no women.

01:07:26.860 Well, you gave yourself a 9.5.

01:07:28.280 So, I guess.

01:07:28.760 Yeah, there are women who are more attractive than me.

01:07:29.760 There are a few women who are more attractive than you.

01:07:32.400 No, there are definitely plenty.

01:07:33.540 Yeah, I mean, I would still say that I see, like, other women.

01:07:36.360 And I'm like, wow, she's really pretty.

01:07:37.600 Like, I feel like, especially with social media and the way everything's portrayed these days.

01:07:41.460 Everyone is, like, they're, like, oh, she's prettier than me.

01:07:43.940 She is this, this, this.

01:07:45.380 Like, that's just kind of, like, the sadness of our society today.

01:07:50.380 And it's kind of hard to, like, go with a scale when everyone has, like, a different view on themselves and other people and a different type.

01:07:57.000 Let me, let me let you go really quick.

01:07:59.260 We got to give a shout out to our boy, Michael Trillstein.

01:08:02.900 Sorry, I butchered your name there.

01:08:04.280 Hey, thank you for the big $100 super chat, man.

01:08:07.320 Much appreciated.

01:08:08.540 By the way, guys, Michael Trillstein, he will be on the show.

01:08:11.460 I believe it's in two weeks we're going to get him on.

01:08:13.380 So, Michael, good to see you in the chat, man.

01:08:15.800 Welcome.

01:08:17.000 Sorry, go ahead if you want to continue with your.

01:08:20.300 That was it.

01:08:22.140 Well, sorry, the next girl I meant.

01:08:23.520 I would agree with everybody that I think it's really stupid to rate ourselves and other people on a scale of 1 to 10 because, of course, there are going to be more attractive people than us.

01:08:33.360 But then there are also going to be more attractive people than those people that are more attractive than us.

01:08:37.720 And it doesn't matter.

01:08:39.440 Like, if everybody here sees themselves as a 10, then they're all a 10.

01:08:42.660 And all the other people that are more attractive than us, they're 10s, too.

01:08:45.700 Delusion.

01:08:47.400 Okay.

01:08:48.620 Do you want to give your take?

01:08:50.100 No, I agree with what she said.

01:08:51.580 And I think just because a woman is beautiful doesn't mean she's more beautiful than you.

01:08:56.120 I think everybody, like, it doesn't make you any less beautiful if you think a woman is more beautiful than you.

01:09:01.700 Wouldn't it be a fair conclusion to make that a natural human process is to rate members of the opposite sex you're attracted to in your own head?

01:09:11.040 Probably.

01:09:11.820 I mean, don't we all make value judgments?

01:09:14.380 I mean, both men and women rate and judge the appearance of the opposite sex all the time.

01:09:21.020 Like, it's just a thing people do.

01:09:22.880 So that's in response to objections of rating on a 1 to 10 scale.

01:09:28.240 I suppose I could ask this other question.

01:09:31.940 If we want to talk about numerical value judgments, height is very often something that women value in a partner.

01:09:43.560 Most women, I'd say, would prefer to date a guy who's taller than them.

01:09:47.260 That is a numerical, that's a literal measurement.

01:09:51.880 So are you guys prepared to date men who are 5'1"?

01:09:55.100 So we actually had this conversation downstairs earlier.

01:09:57.700 Oh, okay.

01:09:58.520 Let's talk about height.

01:09:59.360 Oh, yeah.

01:10:00.140 Personally, from what I know, like, me and my friends, it's, like, about more of a feeling than, like, attractiveness.

01:10:09.360 I guess, like, my boyfriend's taller than me.

01:10:11.480 It makes me feel safe, comfortable.

01:10:13.740 You know, he's 6'2".

01:10:15.800 I'm 5'3".

01:10:16.800 You're 5'3".

01:10:17.540 Your boyfriend's 6'2".

01:10:18.760 Okay.

01:10:19.920 Yes.

01:10:20.540 Go ahead.

01:10:21.260 Your take?

01:10:22.720 I don't know.

01:10:23.340 You really got me there, because then you had me thinking, like, yeah, like, me and...

01:10:27.160 How tall...

01:10:27.480 Sorry.

01:10:28.040 Actually, go ahead.

01:10:28.720 I don't want to interrupt you.

01:10:29.520 Go ahead.

01:10:30.080 No, it's okay.

01:10:30.700 What were you saying?

01:10:31.460 Oh, I was just going to ask.

01:10:33.000 So how tall are you?

01:10:33.920 5'7".

01:10:34.760 And ideal height for a guy?

01:10:37.000 Do you have a height preference?

01:10:38.640 At this point, like, in the 6'0", because I've had experience with, like, other ones,

01:10:44.560 it always happens to be that the ones that come my way are, like, it works out and you have a really good connection, or, like, 5'2".

01:10:51.560 5'10", 5'11", but I'm kind of sick of that, so...

01:10:55.100 How tall was your ex-boyfriend?

01:10:58.480 I think he was, like, 5'11".

01:11:00.380 Okay.

01:11:00.960 Got it.

01:11:01.520 Six feet.

01:11:02.900 And you...

01:11:03.420 But I cut you off there.

01:11:04.540 I apologize for that.

01:11:06.120 Did...

01:11:06.440 Were you going to say something else there?

01:11:08.120 You said...

01:11:08.700 You started saying, well, it started making me think.

01:11:10.920 Do you want to finish that thought?

01:11:12.360 Yeah.

01:11:12.780 I don't know.

01:11:13.300 This makes it very, like, complex, like, the rate scale and, like, the height scale, because I feel like...

01:11:19.100 I'm not going to lie.

01:11:20.440 Like, I feel like a lot of us girls are, like, oh, like, I don't want, like, some short man, or, you know what I mean?

01:11:26.020 Like, a lot of us want someone that's taller than us, so you just have me conflicted.

01:11:31.980 Okay.

01:11:32.340 Is all I'm saying.

01:11:32.720 You got me there.

01:11:33.620 That's good.

01:11:34.380 Go ahead.

01:11:37.060 I wouldn't mind dating someone who's a little bit shorter than me.

01:11:40.720 How tall are you?

01:11:41.440 I'm 5'6".

01:11:42.440 Okay.

01:11:43.200 And I think...

01:11:44.500 Your on-and-on, on-again, off-again boyfriend who is 8 years, how tall was he?

01:11:50.440 He, I think, is 5'6", or 5...

01:11:53.580 He says 5'7", but I'm pretty sure he's 5'6".

01:11:55.940 Okay. Fair enough.

01:11:57.920 I think I would date someone who's, like, 5'5".

01:12:00.900 Okay.

01:12:01.340 But 5'1", I don't think so.

01:12:03.180 Because I do really like that protection aspect.

01:12:06.020 Yeah.

01:12:06.220 And I think not, and it's not that somebody who's 5'1", couldn't protect me.

01:12:13.360 Right.

01:12:13.480 Because they could be a bodybuilder.

01:12:14.760 They could be in martial arts.

01:12:16.360 Sure.

01:12:18.000 But if we're thinking, without thinking about a personality coming into play, yeah, I don't

01:12:25.100 think I could date someone who is 5'1", but that could be changed.

01:12:29.040 You never know.

01:12:29.400 This question's, like, really difficult, because I feel like in my...

01:12:35.400 Like, we were talking before the show about a guy who's, like, 5'3", or something like

01:12:41.520 that.

01:12:42.180 Short kings.

01:12:42.360 He's 5'5".

01:12:43.220 Short kings rise up.

01:12:44.400 I wouldn't say he's definitely 5'4".

01:12:46.200 I would say 5'4".

01:12:46.760 5'4", maybe.

01:12:47.600 He's taller than me.

01:12:48.460 He's the love interest of who at the table?

01:12:50.300 Nobody.

01:12:51.420 Nobody.

01:12:52.180 But you know him.

01:12:53.080 We know him.

01:12:53.600 Yes.

01:12:53.700 We know him very well.

01:12:54.580 He's a very prominent figure.

01:12:56.640 No.

01:12:57.220 Wait, he's a prominent?

01:12:57.920 He's a prominent figure in our dorm hall.

01:13:01.140 Is he just a chad just running through all the chairs in the dorm?

01:13:04.880 He wants to be.

01:13:06.040 Yeah.

01:13:06.700 He does kind of pull.

01:13:08.120 He does pull.

01:13:08.880 Not kind of.

01:13:09.540 He pulls.

01:13:10.200 He pulls a lot of really pretty women.

01:13:12.920 Somehow he pulls, but, like...

01:13:14.700 Is he a good-looking guy, just short?

01:13:16.180 Yeah, he's cute.

01:13:17.000 He's just...

01:13:17.600 Yeah.

01:13:17.980 Good personality?

01:13:19.040 No.

01:13:19.620 No.

01:13:19.940 He's a player.

01:13:20.300 No, he's a player.

01:13:21.680 Okay, he's a good personality for a friend, but not a significant other.

01:13:25.820 But nothing more.

01:13:26.120 5'3", guy.

01:13:26.680 You're welcome to come on the show.

01:13:28.320 We need your take.

01:13:30.300 We'll tell him.

01:13:30.880 We'll let him know.

01:13:31.560 Yeah, let him know.

01:13:32.340 Let him know.

01:13:32.840 He's invited.

01:13:34.740 But, yeah, we're just...

01:13:35.300 How tall are you?

01:13:36.380 I'm 5'6".

01:13:37.840 Do you have a height preference?

01:13:39.980 Honest...

01:13:40.540 I feel like when I say it out loud, like, if people ask me, what's your height preference,

01:13:44.640 I would say 6'2".

01:13:46.120 And, like...

01:13:47.260 But that's just from what I've had in the past, and that's what I liked.

01:13:51.060 But, again, I haven't had a relationship with someone who was 5'5", so maybe they could

01:13:55.720 be the love of my life.

01:13:56.460 I wouldn't know.

01:13:56.940 I want to ask...

01:14:00.940 Hold on.

01:14:02.620 Shit.

01:14:03.580 I redid my stream deck, guys, so I've butchered the timing on this.

01:14:08.360 Where's the fucking Kiki one?

01:14:10.180 Sorry, guys.

01:14:11.460 Where did the Kiki one go?

01:14:13.120 Okay, forget it.

01:14:13.840 But do you have a height preference?

01:14:20.280 Me?

01:14:20.640 Yeah, you were sorry.

01:14:22.920 Well, for me, height is actually probably one of the biggest traits that, like, I see attractive

01:14:29.120 in men.

01:14:31.360 I went through a phase after getting fucked over by a lot of men where I was like, I'm

01:14:36.360 not dating anyone who's not 6'4", because I just think height is attractive.

01:14:40.440 But, wait, let me explain.

01:14:43.840 Okay, I'm 5'4", and my last boyfriend was 6'3", and my other two boyfriends were, like,

01:14:50.500 5'11", so for me, personality does matter, but when I'm just looking at a man, height will

01:14:56.280 physically attract me, but, like, I won't date a man who's not, like, five inches taller

01:15:01.640 than me.

01:15:03.780 Wait, so you're 5'4".

01:15:05.600 The average female height.

01:15:10.020 Yes.

01:15:10.860 You're 5'4".

01:15:12.400 Yes, that is correct.

01:15:15.640 And so you said 6'2", is your cutoff?

01:15:19.340 No.

01:15:19.840 Or what, what did you say?

01:15:20.740 6'2", 6'3"?

01:15:21.660 No, I said, like, my ideal man was 6'4".

01:15:23.780 Oh, sorry.

01:15:24.660 Oh, okay.

01:15:25.120 I apologize.

01:15:25.940 Okay, here's my range.

01:15:27.560 6'4".

01:15:27.620 Right now, I'm looking between 6'4", and, like, 6'5".

01:15:31.000 Because, like, I like the guy who was 6'6", and it's kind of scary.

01:15:34.660 Too much.

01:15:35.260 It was too much.

01:15:36.000 And then this guy who's 6'10", tried to talk to me, and that scared me a lot.

01:15:39.720 Well, let me give you a couple stats.

01:15:41.920 So, only 15% of men are 6'2", and above.

01:15:47.340 Okay, well, that's...

01:15:48.220 6'3".

01:15:49.340 Where's that 15% at?

01:15:50.800 6'3", and above, is less than 1%.

01:15:54.120 Okay.

01:15:54.940 So, just letting you know what you're up against.

01:15:56.420 So, she's looking within that 1%.

01:15:58.080 I have high standards, and I'm going to keep up with that, because I've been fucked over

01:16:01.960 by too many guys who don't meet my standards.

01:16:04.060 So, if they're tall, then you're more amenable to getting fucked over.

01:16:09.060 Yes.

01:16:09.080 Okay, so, if they're fucking over and they're tall, at least they're tall.

01:16:11.420 At least they were tall.

01:16:12.880 Sure.

01:16:13.420 Fair, fair, fair.

01:16:15.280 Wait, and since you're on Bumble, do you have, like, your height preference set on Bumble?

01:16:19.060 Okay.

01:16:19.820 What's your height limit on Bumble?

01:16:21.740 When I used to have Tinder, I actually put that in my bio.

01:16:24.400 I was like, don't talk to me unless you're 6'4", or above.

01:16:26.740 Oh.

01:16:28.340 But I didn't actually, like, use Tinder for serious.

01:16:30.740 I thought it was funny.

01:16:33.380 Bruv.

01:16:33.740 You're killing me here.

01:16:35.100 You're killing me.

01:16:35.900 Short kings rise up.

01:16:37.440 I'm friends with a lot of short guys.

01:16:39.780 Oh, yeah.

01:16:40.460 You are friends.

01:16:42.620 Friends, right?

01:16:43.520 Okay.

01:16:44.480 Do you want to go?

01:16:45.480 Your take on this?

01:16:46.660 I agree with what they were saying about how it's more of, like, a protection thing than

01:16:51.220 an attractiveness thing.

01:16:52.640 And I feel like, yes, it matters, but it's not the defining factor.

01:16:57.420 Like, I've never been with someone shorter than me.

01:17:00.040 I'm 5'3".

01:17:00.880 I've never been with someone shorter than me.

01:17:02.560 But, like, if I love somebody and they're shorter than me, I'm not going to not be with

01:17:06.240 them because they're shorter than me.

01:17:07.600 Like, it's about personality, not looks.

01:17:12.560 My ex was 5'7", and I'm 5'6".

01:17:16.280 So...

01:17:17.220 Short kings rise up.

01:17:18.040 No, not...

01:17:19.940 We don't like her ex.

01:17:21.160 So, for me, as long as they're taller than me, I don't really have a preference because,

01:17:25.280 I mean, I'm 5'6".

01:17:26.120 I'm not that tall.

01:17:27.340 If I was, like, 5'11", 6 feet, I would understand.

01:17:30.020 But, like...

01:17:30.680 That's reasonable.

01:17:31.060 I would say, like, 5'11", to 6'2".

01:17:34.100 Any taller, I feel like I wouldn't like it.

01:17:38.040 So, I would say, like, 5'11", to 6'2".

01:17:40.220 6'2", 6'3", is a good height.

01:17:42.400 But also, I think I can find a guy attractive no matter what height he is.

01:17:46.320 I agree.

01:17:46.780 5'1".

01:17:49.780 They can be attractive.

01:17:51.340 In a way, they can be cute.

01:17:53.360 I wouldn't date them.

01:17:53.840 But I don't think...

01:17:54.480 Yeah, I don't think I would date them either.

01:17:57.120 You can appreciate someone's looks, even if they're not your type, you know?

01:18:00.680 Like, you can just be like, they're cute, but, like, they're not for me.

01:18:03.780 I agree.

01:18:06.620 So, you guys are still 10s?

01:18:09.220 Are you all still 10s?

01:18:10.520 Yes.

01:18:11.640 Everyone can be a 10 in their mind.

01:18:14.180 Let me...

01:18:14.820 I want to get...

01:18:15.980 Let me shout out Michael Trilstein, because he's been dropping some.

01:18:19.720 Okay.

01:18:20.660 Michael, you're a fucking legend.

01:18:23.000 Very excited to have you on the show in, like, two weeks, man.

01:18:27.560 Michael Trilstein, $50 soup chat.

01:18:29.980 Dude, thank you, man.

01:18:30.540 Really appreciate the support.

01:18:31.720 Both my girlfriends are perfect 10s.

01:18:34.540 He has two girlfriends, Michael Trilstein.

01:18:36.720 As they should be.

01:18:37.500 Good for you.

01:18:38.580 Michael, can you write in the chat?

01:18:39.980 It can be...

01:18:40.380 Yeah.

01:18:40.800 Michael, you can do a regular chat.

01:18:42.140 Eric, if you can keep an eye for it, if you want.

01:18:44.120 Are you trying to add a third?

01:18:47.580 Girlfriend.

01:18:48.060 I'm just curious.

01:18:48.800 Are you sticking to two?

01:18:50.260 Or are you trying to add to the roster?

01:18:52.580 Just curious.

01:18:53.640 Or is two just...

01:18:54.820 You're already tapped.

01:18:55.680 Okay.

01:18:56.360 And then, dude, fucking Michael Trilstein.

01:18:58.480 Whatever, man.

01:18:59.440 Thank you for the huge support, man.

01:19:01.720 You're a fucking legend.

01:19:02.620 Really appreciate it.

01:19:05.180 So...

01:19:05.860 All right, guys.

01:19:07.640 I got to pull this up.

01:19:08.940 And by the way, I know there's some other soup chats.

01:19:10.640 I'll get to them really quick.

01:19:11.760 I just wanted to give a big shout-out to Michael Trilstein.

01:19:15.600 Oh, wait.

01:19:16.140 Here's another one.

01:19:16.700 I stay messing up the stream deck.

01:19:18.320 Myron makes it look easy.

01:19:19.480 Dude.

01:19:20.420 Myron's a legend.

01:19:21.440 Like, he...

01:19:22.480 With the stream deck and then just his debating skills, his flow, his ability to articulate

01:19:29.800 arguments, he's very on point.

01:19:32.520 Definitely admire Myron.

01:19:34.400 So...

01:19:34.840 But, Michael, thank you for the $20 soup chat, man.

01:19:36.540 Much appreciated.

01:19:39.080 All right.

01:19:39.640 I'm probably going to get canceled for this one.

01:19:42.320 But, okay, Eric.

01:19:43.120 I saw this one earlier.

01:19:45.080 We're talking about the...

01:19:47.200 Oh, by the way, we're talking...

01:19:49.020 Myron...

01:19:49.700 Luke CX.

01:19:51.180 Luke C in the chat.

01:19:52.060 Who's Myron?

01:19:53.340 He's the co-host of the Fresh and Fit podcast.

01:19:57.360 They do a very similar format.

01:19:58.780 That was like the...

01:19:59.380 Kind of the inspiration for the show.

01:20:00.880 Oh, God.

01:20:01.320 She said, okay.

01:20:02.220 I'm not a fan.

01:20:03.020 Not a fan.

01:20:03.600 Okay.

01:20:04.100 There you go.

01:20:04.640 Cooknuts in Barbados.

01:20:05.200 So, you guys are all 10s.

01:20:10.740 Okay.

01:20:11.300 That's fine.

01:20:12.040 That's fine.

01:20:14.440 Eric, can you pull up...

01:20:15.920 I've curated...

01:20:17.420 Hold on.

01:20:18.200 Not yet.

01:20:18.760 I have curated some photos of women who I think are exceptionally attractive.

01:20:24.920 Some of them might be 10s.

01:20:25.900 Maybe not all of them.

01:20:27.020 Eric, go ahead.

01:20:27.500 Pull it up.

01:20:27.900 All right.

01:20:31.660 Scroll down.

01:20:32.180 Just scroll.

01:20:35.840 Keep scrolling.

01:20:38.380 Maybe a little slower, just so we can pause.

01:20:40.920 Okay.

01:20:41.280 So, these are very attractive women.

01:20:44.140 These are...

01:20:44.560 I would consider some...

01:20:45.760 Maybe not all of them.

01:20:46.660 Some of them are not 9s.

01:20:48.020 Some of them are 10s.

01:20:51.140 They're also all...

01:20:52.120 Do you guys want to...

01:20:53.060 Yeah, I was gonna say.

01:20:55.060 Keep going, Eric.

01:20:55.860 Just keep blasting it.

01:20:57.540 Do you guys want to adjust your rating?

01:21:01.440 No.

01:21:02.180 No?

01:21:02.600 No.

01:21:02.880 No adjustments?

01:21:03.420 Everybody is beautiful.

01:21:04.740 Yeah.

01:21:05.380 Especially us and especially them.

01:21:07.480 Okay.

01:21:07.740 I'm gonna stop roasting them.

01:21:08.860 All right.

01:21:09.880 Okay.

01:21:12.000 Chat.

01:21:13.020 What do you guys rate yourselves?

01:21:14.600 Everyone in chat, what do you rate yourself?

01:21:17.220 No caps.

01:21:18.580 Dude, Michael Trilstein, you're a legend, bruv.

01:21:21.360 Let me do these super chats really quick.

01:21:24.460 Yeah, we'll pull up Michael's here.

01:21:26.760 Michael Trilstein with the big $100 super chat.

01:21:29.160 Dude, you're fucking Chad, dude.

01:21:30.580 Holy shit.

01:21:31.060 I just saw your interview with the...

01:21:33.700 Well, you did the interview and then you did the after hours on FNF.

01:21:38.360 That was a really good interview, by the way.

01:21:39.980 Anyways, Myron is God.

01:21:42.300 That chick is capping.

01:21:43.860 Uh-oh.

01:21:45.520 Do you want to respond to Mr. Michael Trilstein?

01:21:47.800 Michael, you're giving us so much money, but I very much disagree with you.

01:21:52.480 Okay.

01:21:52.820 By the way, they might...

01:21:54.180 Would you be down to be on the panel if the Fresh and Fit guys come to California?

01:21:58.200 Absolutely.

01:21:59.080 Okay.

01:21:59.460 It'll be a fun, lively debate.

01:22:01.580 Michael, dude, thank you for the insane support of the show.

01:22:04.540 I think so far, this is the most anyone has ever donated in one singular show.

01:22:11.460 I think Mike Davis might have total across all shows.

01:22:16.800 He's kind of beating you up.

01:22:18.100 And actually, beating you out, sorry.

01:22:19.760 But actually, we have here a super chat from Mr. Mike Davis.

01:22:23.820 Checking in, finally.

01:22:25.040 Good to see you, Mike Davis, with the $10 Soup Chat.

01:22:27.280 Thank you, man.

01:22:27.780 All these wonderful ladies are a 10 combined.

01:22:33.420 Do you guys want to shoot your...

01:22:34.680 You guys are free to shoot shots back at Mike Davis.

01:22:37.200 By the way, before you do that, can you grab that photo?

01:22:43.580 Just put it on the table really quick.

01:22:45.020 It's behind you.

01:22:47.200 I got you, Mike Davis.

01:22:49.460 Boom.

01:22:50.620 Mike Davis has officially joined the panel.

01:22:54.160 Okay.

01:22:55.500 So, Mike, we might have to add Trillstein.

01:23:00.760 Trillstein, I'm going to get a frame.

01:23:02.520 We're going to add you.

01:23:03.540 Send me the photo that you want added.

01:23:05.720 And you're going to be a regular drop-in member, even when you're not here, of the panel.

01:23:11.260 So, did you guys want to respond to Mr. Mike Davis?

01:23:15.340 I would like to state that we all have more here than you.

01:23:20.040 Oh, shit.

01:23:23.140 Goddamn.

01:23:24.100 Okay.

01:23:24.380 Anybody else?

01:23:25.260 Anyone want to shoot some shots?

01:23:28.040 I would just rate you a one, probably.

01:23:30.320 Oh.

01:23:31.160 Oh.

01:23:31.900 Maybe you could use all the money you're donating to get a hair transplant.

01:23:35.700 Oh.

01:23:36.900 Oh.

01:23:37.460 Oh, it hurts.

01:23:42.780 I don't like that kind of talk.

01:23:45.520 Okay.

01:23:46.140 Mike Davis, thank you for the $10 soup chat, man.

01:23:48.200 Much appreciated.

01:23:49.100 We have Everyday Edgar, $10 soup chat.

01:23:51.520 Oh, Jesus.

01:23:52.280 Again, what?

01:23:53.600 Bruv.

01:23:54.120 Brian, ask the ladies to guess the weight of the person next to them.

01:23:57.000 I feel like that's maybe slightly inappropriate.

01:23:59.280 But if the panel collectively wants to guess the weight of Kiki, and you can guess my weight.

01:24:07.240 Guess Kiki's weight.

01:24:09.240 She's pretty tiny.

01:24:10.280 I would say probably like 100 pounds.

01:24:13.780 100 pounds?

01:24:14.160 I would say like 75.

01:24:16.020 I would say 50.

01:24:18.360 Holy shit.

01:24:19.260 Michael Trilstein.

01:24:20.220 You're killing me, bruv.

01:24:21.980 Tier 6.

01:24:23.420 This is our first ever Tier 6.

01:24:25.520 Just to, by the way, Tier 6, guys, that's $500 to be fucking, bruv.

01:24:31.880 Michael, the Tier 6, it comes with like a bunch of merch.

01:24:35.720 So when you're on the show, if it's cool with you, instead of shipping it to you, I'll just give it to you when you're on in two weeks.

01:24:40.440 But hey, man, thank you, dude.

01:24:42.040 You're a fucking legend.

01:24:43.760 Michael, give me some money.

01:24:45.340 I know.

01:24:46.000 I'm a broke college student.

01:24:46.660 Do any of the girls have OnlyFans, by the way?

01:24:49.220 No, but I got a Venmo.

01:24:50.920 Ah, you missed out.

01:24:51.880 Got Venmo and Cash Up.

01:24:53.140 Oh, Jesus.

01:24:53.980 Apple Pay.

01:24:54.780 Zell will DM us on Instagram.

01:24:55.800 Wait, what?

01:24:56.260 Oh, the weight.

01:24:57.100 Do you guys want to guess my weight?

01:24:59.740 No.

01:25:00.180 No.

01:25:00.440 Do you work out?

01:25:02.120 Yeah, but, yeah, I do some weight training, but I've been slacking a little bit.

01:25:07.980 How tall are you?

01:25:08.800 A little bit more fat.

01:25:09.780 How tall are you?

01:25:11.640 I'm 6 feet.

01:25:12.440 I want to say maybe 170.

01:25:18.420 Okay.

01:25:18.840 I was going to say like 185, 190.

01:25:22.000 Anybody else?

01:25:22.860 I was going to say 170.

01:25:24.560 160.

01:25:25.040 I'm like, I weighed myself today.

01:25:27.580 I'm 179.

01:25:29.000 I need to lose, I need to lose like 10, 20 pounds.

01:25:32.560 You know, I've been eating too many cookies.

01:25:35.500 I've been working out though.

01:25:36.600 So, guys, I'm on my grind.

01:25:39.140 Okay, but every day, Edgar, thank you for the $10 weight thing.

01:25:47.380 If you want to, I mean, if the girls want to do it, I'm okay.

01:25:54.100 But, like, I feel like they probably wouldn't.

01:25:55.920 No, no.

01:25:56.400 Okay.

01:25:56.820 Absolutely not.

01:25:57.800 Every day, Edgar.

01:25:58.500 I'm sorry, man.

01:26:00.720 Let's see here.

01:26:01.560 Let me just get caught up here.

01:26:03.020 We got Michael Trilstein with the $10.

01:26:06.060 Thank you, man.

01:26:06.920 Four girlfriends.

01:26:07.880 Yes or yes.

01:26:08.540 Chat.

01:26:10.280 How many girlfriends do you think Mr. Michael Trilstein?

01:26:14.460 Holy shit, and he's gifting memberships.

01:26:16.040 Jesus Christ, what a fucking legend.

01:26:19.040 Unfortunately, Michael, we can't, for some reason, through StreamYard,

01:26:24.540 it won't let us show up in the overlay right here.

01:26:28.560 When someone gifts subs, I guess they haven't updated that yet

01:26:32.820 because it's a new thing for YouTube, so StreamYard hasn't updated it.

01:26:37.680 But let me just shout you out now.

01:26:38.880 Thank you for the, I believe that's 15 gifted subs.

01:26:42.260 Holy shit, you're a fucking legend, dude.

01:26:46.040 Thank you so much, man.

01:26:47.200 Really appreciate the support, dude.

01:26:48.580 It means a lot.

01:26:51.260 All right.

01:26:51.960 Okay, so we got to get to our next topic here.

01:26:56.100 So I think where we left off was anything you wanted to get off your chest,

01:27:01.840 and then you answered that, and then we kind of went off.

01:27:05.400 So did you get an opportunity, if there's something that you wanted to get off your chest,

01:27:09.540 dating related?

01:27:12.320 Maybe one thing you wish men did differently.

01:27:14.580 Maybe you want some advice on something, whatever it may be.

01:27:17.140 I would say the one thing I would have something to say about is communication.

01:27:24.700 And all of us being in college, communication can be really hard,

01:27:30.780 and I found that that was something that was pretty difficult going into my relationship,

01:27:35.260 just kind of setting standards for communication.

01:27:37.900 But I think once you have that down, it's pretty easy to, you know, relay what you want

01:27:44.860 and what your partner wants and to find that boundaries of respect.

01:27:49.160 And like I said, communication is a really hard, good communication is a really hard place

01:27:55.240 to get to as we're all learning and growing.

01:27:57.360 And, you know, we're in our 20s.

01:27:58.920 We're not fully developed yet.

01:28:00.520 And we haven't experienced life as much as, you know, people older than us.

01:28:06.180 So communication is a top one, I would say, for sure.

01:28:10.360 So are you saying that you feel that men are not so good with the communication,

01:28:15.080 or are you just speaking generally?

01:28:16.200 I'm just speaking generally.

01:28:17.260 Like both sides.

01:28:17.880 Communication goes both ways, for sure.

01:28:20.500 Yeah.

01:28:20.700 Okay.

01:28:24.700 For me, it's romance.

01:28:26.660 Romance.

01:28:27.120 Like, I love.

01:28:28.240 Tell us about that.

01:28:29.020 Love romance.

01:28:30.520 And it's not just the typical flowers and chocolates, but it's all about doing, you know,

01:28:38.880 going out of your way to do something really, really special for your significant other,

01:28:42.540 for that person that you care about.

01:28:46.780 I don't know.

01:28:47.600 For me, just taking, it sounds so corny, but taking me out dancing, like even to like a dancing

01:28:55.160 class, I just, I don't want to see romance be dead.

01:29:00.080 Which kind of feels like it is these days.

01:29:03.340 And so are you kind of talking about chivalry?

01:29:07.020 Like, is chivalry dead?

01:29:09.140 Is that kind of the frame of your thought on that?

01:29:12.720 Sure.

01:29:13.060 I guess we could combine it to that as well.

01:29:15.780 So you think romance is dead?

01:29:17.800 I'm not saying romance is dead.

01:29:19.420 And I'm saying that romance is not something that I see very often.

01:29:25.780 Not in just myself, but in my friends' relationships and everything.

01:29:29.800 I feel like it's something that I'm seeing in movies and I'm seeing on these, you know,

01:29:34.340 cute little TikTok videos or Instagram and everything.

01:29:37.040 But that's something I want to be a part of.

01:29:39.940 That's what I want my friends to be a part of.

01:29:41.940 And I think romance is truly beautiful.

01:29:45.780 But is romance something, it's something that men do?

01:29:56.100 It's something that both men and women can do.

01:30:00.080 I mean, I feel like most often though, it's men who are making romantic gestures.

01:30:05.220 I guess so, yeah.

01:30:05.940 Typically, like you don't often hear about women buying men flowers, for example.

01:30:12.160 No, but you can hear about women doing other romantic things for men.

01:30:17.020 I think it kind of, it depends on the person.

01:30:19.220 Yeah, it depends on the person.

01:30:20.520 But yeah, it is just dominantly like a men thing.

01:30:24.260 Actually, you go ahead and then I'll come in.

01:30:25.420 I was just going to say, but again, maybe this is just like my thing,

01:30:29.700 but I personally really like, like I always bought my ex flowers because I feel like it's fun.

01:30:35.360 Like there is kind of a missing thing that usually it is like men are almost expected to like do the romantic things.

01:30:42.120 And so at least from what I've tried to do with my life is make sure that that's an equal balance between men and women,

01:30:48.860 which is just something that isn't super common.

01:30:51.160 So yes, it is easy to say that, yeah, men are expected to do those romantic things.

01:30:56.560 But I mean, there's always a possibility to change.

01:30:58.840 And that's what I try and do with myself.

01:31:00.600 Sure.

01:31:01.020 And there's something else too that I wanted to say is there's, I really love learning about love languages.

01:31:08.700 And I actually, before we get to that, I just want to address the whole romance thing.

01:31:12.540 So I think a lot of men are not romantic anymore in response to the changes in the sexual marketplace.

01:31:25.180 In the what?

01:31:25.720 In the sexual marketplace, the dating marketplace, if you will, men haven't really changed.

01:31:33.840 I think it's women who have changed and men have adapted to the new paradigm.

01:31:40.240 So men don't want to be, men don't want to look like suckers.

01:31:45.580 So we're not going to be romantic with a girl because women are, and they're free to do it, but women are sleeping with, I'm not going to be romantic with a girl who's sleeping with two other dudes and she's entertaining another guy.

01:32:02.740 Like I'm not going to be, I'm not going to be a traditional guy with a woman who's not traditional.

01:32:07.720 So I'm not going to adhere to traditional gender roles.

01:32:13.000 So being romantic, that could be paying for dates.

01:32:15.440 That could be doing these romantic overtures or whatever.

01:32:21.540 And I recommend men don't do this.

01:32:23.620 Other men don't do this either because it has to go both ways.

01:32:28.060 So like, I don't want to adhere to my traditional gender roles if a woman is not adhering to hers.

01:32:36.240 And women are not traditional anymore.

01:32:39.680 Most, I should say most women are no longer traditional.

01:32:43.620 I can see what you're saying, but also I think that's something that has to be spoken from the beginning.

01:32:51.180 And if, if you and the person that you're hooking up with or dating state that in the beginning, like, hey, you know, and I mean, yeah, I understand a lot of people don't, but it's, the lines are very blurred nowadays.

01:33:04.020 I understand what you're saying when it comes to like the dating pool and, and, you know, when it comes to dating apps, it's easier to hook up with people and kind of keep your pool open.

01:33:15.460 But can I ask a question just based on like what you were saying was, um, like not, you know, giving that like romantic action to a woman who's actively like seeking out like other men, like you're saying actively sleeping with two other men.

01:33:31.200 Or would you include as well, like a woman who has slept with in the past other multiple other men?

01:33:38.140 Um, like more so currently.

01:33:40.840 Okay.

01:33:41.260 So, yeah, in my opinion, I mean, but if she has a high body count, then I'm probably less.

01:33:45.460 Inclined to want to be.

01:33:46.920 Can I ask why?

01:33:48.140 If she slept with a hundred men before me, all, okay, she, it's, it kind of rubs me and I think it rubs a lot of men the wrong way.

01:33:55.920 If like, let's say you've slept with a bunch of men, gave it up first night and then you come along and then, oh, take me on seven dates, wine and dine me, do all this other stuff.

01:34:11.060 But for the other guys, you just, you just gave it up.

01:34:16.740 Sure.

01:34:17.200 Now, now they got it for, for free.

01:34:20.080 And then I have to do all this work.

01:34:22.600 Like I would feel a certain type of way.

01:34:24.620 And as a woman, you're free to do that.

01:34:26.400 You, if you slept with a hundred men and then you say, I want to wait until marriage, that's within your right to do.

01:34:31.820 But like, as a guy, I'm going to feel like you've slept with a hundred other men.

01:34:36.520 You want me to wait till marriage?

01:34:37.720 No, sorry.

01:34:38.480 So your goal is just to sleep with her then though.

01:34:42.140 What do you mean?

01:34:42.700 My goal?

01:34:43.380 I mean, not necessarily you like specifically, but in this situation, you're saying like, oh, I'm not going to wine and dine her because in the past she slept with a hundred men, but she's, let's say, shown you equal interest.

01:34:55.440 She's interested in you romantically, but because she slept with a hundred men, your, your only goal is you're like, oh, she slept with a hundred other men.

01:35:01.940 Why, why did she want to wait for me?

01:35:04.020 Wait, so what, sorry, I'm sorry.

01:35:07.660 By the way, let me shout out Michael Trilstein with the big fucking $500 soup chat.

01:35:11.740 You're insane, dude.

01:35:14.980 Jesus Christ.

01:35:15.920 Okay.

01:35:18.120 We'll get your super chat after we just finish off this little riff here, but hey, thank you for the $500.

01:35:24.840 You're going crazy.

01:35:26.960 You're going, not, sorry, you're not going crazy, but you're, you're a fucking legend.

01:35:30.680 Mike Trilstein, thank you, man, for the insane support this show, dude.

01:35:36.240 So, okay, sorry, I got distracted there by the super chat.

01:35:39.720 I can rephrase.

01:35:40.680 Yeah, can you rephrase it?

01:35:41.720 Yeah.

01:35:42.320 So I feel like just in the way that you were saying this situation of like, oh, she slept with a hundred men.

01:35:49.360 Now, like, she gave it up so easy for them.

01:35:52.260 Why not me in this situation?

01:35:54.420 I feel like from your perspective, you're assuming that like, the goal is to have sex with this woman.

01:36:00.460 She doesn't want to have sex with me right now.

01:36:02.200 She's not giving it up like she used to for other people.

01:36:05.920 So you saying like, I don't want to pursue her romantically.

01:36:10.800 I mean, isn't that the point anyway?

01:36:13.840 Like, I just don't think it makes sense.

01:36:15.380 Like, if you're not trying to pursue her romantically, like, obviously, you're not going to do those things.

01:36:20.040 From that statement, you're saying, I wanted her to have sex with me.

01:36:23.900 She doesn't want to have sex with me right now.

01:36:25.620 She's interested in me romantically.

01:36:28.500 I don't know.

01:36:29.420 I don't know maybe if I'm not explaining it correctly.

01:36:32.640 Well, I would say first off, if I knew that a girl had slept with a hundred men previously, don't hate me, guys.

01:36:39.440 Being more realistic, I don't even want to sleep with her once at that point.

01:36:44.260 No, and I mean valid.

01:36:45.320 That's very valid.

01:36:45.720 Like, completely valid.

01:36:46.500 I feel like maybe using a hundred is not necessarily.

01:36:49.500 Like, what would you consider?

01:36:51.040 A high body count.

01:36:51.900 Yeah.

01:36:52.360 Yeah, what would you consider a high body count?

01:36:53.920 I'm curious.

01:36:54.480 Yeah, we can talk a bit about body count.

01:36:56.900 I'll just wrap up sort of the romantic component to it.

01:36:59.620 So it's just kind of like, I don't want to do sort of the romantic stuff with a girl.

01:37:08.560 Like, if I know she's seeing other guys.

01:37:10.980 If you're seeing other guys, then you're hooking up with other dudes, but then you want me to, like, do all that.

01:37:18.760 It's just kind of, I'm going to treat you with respect, but I'm not going to do this extra shit.

01:37:25.680 I'm not going to be like, let me pick you up and pay for the date.

01:37:29.740 I'm not going to do that.

01:37:31.140 I'll still treat you with respect, but I might not.

01:37:34.500 Well, first off, if I know ahead of time that she's sleeping with other men, it's a wrap.

01:37:40.780 I've lost all interest.

01:37:42.260 Yeah.

01:37:42.640 I've lost all interest.

01:37:43.680 No, it makes sense.

01:37:44.200 Um, but, and the thing is though, when it comes to dating, like you kind of, one, you can't assume that they're going to be honest with something like that.

01:37:53.020 This applies to both men and women.

01:37:54.460 Like if a guy is hooking up with another girl, he might not be upfront with you that he's seen another girl while he's pursuing you too, or you're pursuing him.

01:38:02.400 However you want to frame it.

01:38:03.860 Uh, so, but yeah, it's, uh, yeah, I would have pretty serious issue with that.

01:38:10.340 Um, and certainly like, okay, here's, this is the example I like to often give the worst thing that not the worst thing, but a really bad thing that could happen as a guy.

01:38:19.220 You do the romantic shit and you, but you get played.

01:38:23.580 So what happens is you take the girl out on a date, you pay for the food, you take her to sushi, hibachi, go to Benihana, whatever.

01:38:30.540 She gets a to-go little baggie, a to-go baggie.

01:38:34.280 You paid for it.

01:38:35.380 She gives you the ass out hug.

01:38:37.060 You know, the ass out.

01:38:38.280 Gives you a little kiss on the cheek.

01:38:39.320 Thank you.

01:38:40.340 Takes the doggy bag, calls up her sneaky link, the guy who she's fucking, goes over to his house, gives him, fucks him.

01:38:47.940 Well, it gives him the food that you paid for.

01:38:50.240 Then he eats your leftovers that you paid for.

01:38:53.560 She should.

01:38:54.180 Like, that's the biggest, like, right off the bat.

01:38:55.940 She's a shit person.

01:38:57.000 Yeah.

01:38:57.300 But like, that happens though.

01:38:59.660 How often though?

01:38:59.960 In today's day and age that, well, I mean the whole, the Benihana scenario that's a bit specific.

01:39:04.640 It's so funny because I never think of something like this happening because I would never do something like that.

01:39:09.680 And when I said romance, I guess I should have clarified that you are, you start to, you start to get to know someone, you like them, you start spending more time with each other.

01:39:20.700 And it's, and you've had that conversation that you are seeing just each other than the romance.

01:39:26.740 I completely agree.

01:39:28.020 Yeah, romance right at the gate.

01:39:29.740 Sure.

01:39:30.160 That could be nice.

01:39:30.940 That could be fun.

01:39:31.460 That could be surprising.

01:39:32.200 But that's not something that I'm expecting when I first start dating someone when I could also be dating another person to just get to know people.

01:39:40.540 See, you know, who do I like?

01:39:42.160 Who do I care about?

01:39:44.020 Yeah.

01:39:44.220 I agree with her completely.

01:39:45.120 So I should have been a little more clear about that.

01:39:49.780 Sure.

01:39:50.240 Yeah.

01:39:50.400 I mean, sorry, did you want to come in here?

01:39:52.140 Yeah, I just wanted to say that, like, I agree with her and I also, like, saw a comment, too, that said the same thing, that it should come later.

01:39:57.720 It shouldn't be, like, what you're saying is totally valid because why do you want to give somebody everything and be so good to them when they could be hooking up with other people?

01:40:06.000 Exactly.

01:40:06.500 And I agreed with Brian there, too.

01:40:08.620 Yeah, when you're both hooking up with other people, it's totally fine to not be romantic because there's, it's not romantic.

01:40:14.120 But when you're dating and you're exclusive, then I feel like that's when the romance is expected, but it should go both ways as well.

01:40:19.900 I also feel like it shouldn't be expected right off the bat when you just start hooking up with someone.

01:40:24.920 I think it takes time to get to know someone, especially when you're hooking up over and over again.

01:40:29.580 You know, you're spending more time with the person and then it kind of makes you realize, like, oh, there's something, you know, that interests me in this person.

01:40:37.500 And it's really situational.

01:40:39.040 I think, like, obviously, I wouldn't want to put my all into someone who's also seeing multiple people, right?

01:40:47.040 And I think the way that the dating marketplace is today in 2022, for both men and women, you kind of have to assume going in that they're at least sleeping with one other person.

01:41:01.680 Maybe that's, some people might disagree and think that's a stretch, but I think that's kind of like the bare minimum.

01:41:07.320 They could be sleeping with multiple people.

01:41:09.080 On the low end, they're at least entertaining, like dating.

01:41:14.300 They might not be sleeping with anybody, but they probably are.

01:41:17.880 They're probably dating other people, which, you know, I think does not lend itself to serious relationships developing, if that's something that you want.

01:41:30.880 I think it's totally valid to assume that in modern dating.

01:41:36.160 I think, you know, as the times have gone more and, like, we've gone more into technology, it becomes easier to access, you know, just anyone on the internet.

01:41:47.560 Like, you could be on Tinder and message someone from New York or even just through Instagram, you know?

01:41:52.740 Like, it's really easy, and then that plays into, you know, sex has become a very casual thing, and that's totally okay if, you know, you like to go out, and that's your goal is to hook up with people.

01:42:08.480 But I think it's something that you have to make very clear, and it's okay to assume those things, for sure.

01:42:13.920 And I think, like, what you were talking about earlier about communication, people need to be very specific as to what they're looking for.

01:42:20.060 If you're looking for a hookup and you just want to fuck, then you need to say that.

01:42:24.280 You need to say, I just want to fuck, and that's it.

01:42:26.680 If you're like, I don't want you to be talking to other people, I want to be exclusive, then you need to say that.

01:42:31.540 If you're not clear about it, you can't get mad at them for hooking up with other people if you don't specifically say that I want to be exclusive.

01:42:37.700 Also, in dating, don't ever assume.

01:42:40.920 I agree.

01:42:41.280 Yeah, so let me just address that.

01:42:42.660 I think the one issue there, though, is that if a guy were to be, and I think it's unfortunate, if a guy were to be up front with that, hey, I just want to hook up, I think a lot of women probably are going to be like, no.

01:42:57.280 But I would rather have that.

01:42:59.940 And because of that factor, this is why, like, I'm kind of, like, done with hookup culture because I've seen that if you, like, let a guy sleep with you quickly,

01:43:09.920 they won't really, like, take the time to, like, actually get to know you as a person.

01:43:15.080 And there's, like, studies in biology that, like, the more a guy has, like, sex with a girl, the less attraction or, like, drive he has towards her.

01:43:23.260 So I've learned that for, like, like, a future guy or whatever.

01:43:27.660 I just, I'm going to, like, make them, like, wait really long.

01:43:31.040 Not until, like, marriage.

01:43:32.160 Not on some, like, Christianity, like, Catholic stuff.

01:43:35.540 But, like, I want him to, like, get to know me as a person before all the sex comes.

01:43:41.360 Because that's also a very, like, physical and intimate matter.

01:43:45.460 And that's why I've realized I'm kind of done with that.

01:43:48.300 Because I also always, like, catch feelings.

01:43:51.520 Or that is if it keeps going.

01:43:53.240 If it's a situationship, I do.

01:43:54.860 And then that's when I get scared.

01:43:56.920 Really quick, I want to just ask you a question on that.

01:43:59.220 By the way, you made a fantastic point before.

01:44:02.940 That was a very pretty wise take there.

01:44:06.900 So you said you'd want to make a guy wait moving forward.

01:44:13.280 You said not marriage, though.

01:44:14.740 How long are we talking?

01:44:16.300 I'm not talking, like, two years.

01:44:18.180 I'm not talking, like, a week.

01:44:20.420 A fortnight?

01:44:22.240 14 days?

01:44:23.560 I don't know.

01:44:24.240 I don't really think that you can put an exact number on it.

01:44:27.000 Because I feel like you also have to trust your intuition.

01:44:30.540 And just, like, trust your gut and feel out the vibes.

01:44:33.440 Like, it might be different according to a person.

01:44:35.140 Because maybe you see through someone's, like, red flags or bullshit.

01:44:38.260 Oh, like, maybe I'm going to leave.

01:44:39.800 Or maybe I'm going to wait even longer.

01:44:41.960 Because it seems like maybe they're manipulating me.

01:44:45.040 Or, like, trying to do things to have me, like, sleep with them sooner.

01:44:48.340 It kind of, like, depends on the guy, you know?

01:44:50.340 Yeah, I think women are in a tough position on this one.

01:44:52.800 Because on one hand, it's like, there are definitely some guys out there that if you sleep with them too soon,

01:44:59.220 they are going to, they might not want to take you seriously.

01:45:03.740 They might say, oh, she's not worthy of a relationship or whatever.

01:45:07.700 Which, for me personally, I don't think is the case.

01:45:10.620 There's definitely guys out there where it's like, I mean, I can speak for my long-term relationships.

01:45:16.080 I mean, I've had a five-year relationship, two-year relationship, nine-month relationship, like, one-year relationship.

01:45:21.140 So, the sex happens fairly early, I'd say within the first three dates, first three times.

01:45:29.200 So, for me, I'm not, I don't look down on it if a girl wants to sleep with a guy too soon.

01:45:34.760 But there's definitely guys out there where it's like, they might judge you for it.

01:45:40.100 So, but girls are in a tough spot because it's like, well, you make the guy wait, and then he's still going to dip.

01:45:46.600 He might still dip, even if you make him wait.

01:45:48.660 He's just going to wait.

01:45:49.500 He's going to bide his time.

01:45:51.620 So, that's how girls can get played too.

01:45:53.520 So, it's kind of tough, like, do you just get it over with and then see?

01:45:58.560 I mean, it might almost speak to if he does sleep with you soon and he wants to keep seeing you, that could, he's into you versus.

01:46:06.200 Then, it's, yeah, it's just a tough position to be in.

01:46:09.480 And, like, okay, you wait, you hang out, I don't know.

01:46:14.740 I actually don't know the solution to that.

01:46:15.920 I guess it would just make me, like, less regretful if I made them wait a while because I'd be like, oh, okay, like, I made them wait.

01:46:23.220 Like, he's just, like, an asshole.

01:46:24.920 But, like, I took the time to get to know his intentions and I was wrong.

01:46:28.680 But, like, I'll learn for, like, the next person.

01:46:31.180 You know what I mean?

01:46:31.880 Well, and, of course, there's the men that there's just absolutely no chance of any future with.

01:46:38.400 Like, if you're traveling or they're in town for the week, then that's, I mean, that's where you can, well, anyways.

01:46:49.420 Did anyone else want to come in on this?

01:46:51.720 Actually, before we let someone come in on this, let me just get these super chats here.

01:46:57.240 We got, did I get this one?

01:46:59.980 No, I don't think so.

01:47:01.000 So, yo, thank you for the Canadian $10 soup chat, man.

01:47:03.480 Appreciate the support.

01:47:04.240 Romance and chivalry are dead and y'all killed it.

01:47:06.900 Like I said before, why would a guy be chivalrous to you when you can't even adhere to one of his boundaries?

01:47:12.320 Keep your options open, though, right?

01:47:15.040 What is the boundary?

01:47:17.000 I don't know if this is related to the nightclub thing or I'm trying to remember his previous soup chat.

01:47:23.540 I do like the way he worded that, adhere to one of his boundaries instead of adhere to what he says.

01:47:28.100 I like the way he said that.

01:47:29.640 Adhere to his boundaries.

01:47:30.660 I agree.

01:47:31.240 Because, yeah, if you have those boundaries and they're broken, yeah, why would he want to be related?

01:47:35.180 Yeah, like we were talking about boundaries earlier.

01:47:37.040 And that's, holy shit.

01:47:39.580 And that's where communication comes into play again, you know?

01:47:43.180 So it's obviously at the get-go, it's really important to state that.

01:47:46.960 If you're keeping your options open, then that's, if you state that, then that's what the boundary is.

01:47:52.640 If you're not and you're looking into something serious, then, you know, you have that wiggle room to kind of come to a conclusion.

01:48:00.460 Yeah.

01:48:00.600 Let me get the soup chat.

01:48:02.720 And also, thank you, Michael, for the other gifted subs that you sent.

01:48:07.320 And unfortunately, StreamYard doesn't catch the gifted subs.

01:48:11.120 Dude, big $500 soup chat.

01:48:13.060 Thank you, man.

01:48:13.480 Much appreciated.

01:48:14.060 Maxed out on one YouTube account.

01:48:15.160 So here comes number two.

01:48:16.080 Also, someone tell these 304s, they better beg for, oh, God, better beg for Myron's forgiveness.

01:48:22.400 No.

01:48:22.920 Oh, my God.

01:48:24.380 No, thank you.

01:48:25.080 He is Allah, and I am now a Jewish Muslim.

01:48:27.520 What's a 304?

01:48:28.320 When Jesus walks?

01:48:30.180 Hashtag free sneaker, free yay, free AB.

01:48:33.840 What is a 304?

01:48:35.520 Kells?

01:48:38.060 304 is, do you know calculator, how you could type things in calculators?

01:48:42.380 And if you turn it over, it could spell something.

01:48:44.540 Yeah.

01:48:45.560 304 is a ho.

01:48:46.720 Okay.

01:48:48.020 Interesting.

01:48:48.720 My words, don't shoot the messenger, guys.

01:48:51.320 Michael Trilstein, I think he got upset with the.

01:48:54.820 Why are they using 304?

01:48:56.480 Why wouldn't they just say ho?

01:48:57.920 Why is he afraid to just say the word ho?

01:49:00.680 Just call us hoes.

01:49:03.480 Jesus.

01:49:04.240 Okay.

01:49:05.360 Cool, cool.

01:49:06.220 So I'm trying to remember where we were here.

01:49:10.240 So.

01:49:10.260 No, James Michael, we don't know what 304 is.

01:49:15.380 That's why we asked.

01:49:16.400 We were.

01:49:17.760 Thank goodness gracious.

01:49:19.240 So we were talking about body count a little bit there.

01:49:22.080 I know you had kind of wanted to come in.

01:49:25.780 We were talking about romance.

01:49:29.540 Yeah.

01:49:29.940 I mean, I would defer to that guy, to Sask's finest super chat, basically.

01:49:38.900 I think Dave Chappelle said, chivalry is dead and women killed it.

01:49:44.300 Agree or disagree?

01:49:45.220 Agree.

01:49:56.020 That's.

01:49:57.960 That's.

01:49:58.720 Because.

01:49:59.300 A hard thing to answer.

01:50:00.980 Yeah.

01:50:01.100 Because I think it's on both.

01:50:02.420 It's on both sides.

01:50:03.220 It goes both ways, for sure.

01:50:04.500 It goes both ways.

01:50:05.660 Society.

01:50:06.180 Yeah, there are.

01:50:06.680 There are.

01:50:07.460 Society.

01:50:08.320 Definitely be women that have killed it.

01:50:09.660 But then there are also men that have just ruined, ruined it for women or who just let

01:50:14.800 it die, who don't show it.

01:50:16.720 So I think, I think it's, I think there's accountability on both ends for men and women

01:50:22.580 regarding romance.

01:50:24.140 For sure.

01:50:24.780 Being dead.

01:50:25.260 I don't.

01:50:26.240 I mean, it really depends on the person.

01:50:28.120 I would say my boyfriend is very chivalrous, I guess you could say.

01:50:34.320 And I appreciate it, but.

01:50:35.640 There's definitely still men.

01:50:37.040 Yeah, absolutely.

01:50:38.220 Absolutely.

01:50:38.620 They adhere to their more traditional gender roles who are chivalrous.

01:50:44.440 It's just chivalry was something like related to a lady, someone who's a lady.

01:50:52.620 And it's like, if you're fucking three dudes at the time, I'm sorry, but it's hard to be

01:51:00.060 chivalrous in those situations.

01:51:02.240 Jesus, Michael Trilstein, you're fucking insane, dude.

01:51:05.700 Holy shit.

01:51:06.620 Michael Trilstein's a fucking legend.

01:51:11.240 We'll get to that really quick, Michael.

01:51:13.940 So I think the thing is, is that I don't think men have really changed that much.

01:51:23.640 No.

01:51:24.080 Because we've always been dogs, like men, we've always been dogs, like we'll, we'll fuck.

01:51:29.980 But when, when the shift happened in society from, hey, being, I mean, look, I know I'm talking

01:51:38.500 back into the 1950s here.

01:51:40.580 If you want to sleep with me, put a ring on my finger and we have to be married when that

01:51:46.560 shifts to get me a cheeseburger from McDonald's and we're good to go.

01:51:55.480 I'm kidding.

01:51:56.080 That sounds really good right now.

01:51:57.360 I'm down.

01:51:57.980 Let's go.

01:51:58.440 After the show.

01:51:59.200 After the show.

01:51:59.620 We'll, we'll, we'll, we'll all get some, some, uh, what's it called?

01:52:03.260 Big Macs.

01:52:04.080 But, um, but, um, I think so because women, you guys are the gatekeepers of sex.

01:52:15.800 You, you control who has sex basically.

01:52:18.380 So we will, we will adapt to whatever it is.

01:52:24.220 So if we just have to take you on one date, if we just have to text you, say, come over

01:52:30.160 on Tinder, what are you doing?

01:52:31.880 Come over.

01:52:32.880 That's what we will adapt to the marketplace.

01:52:36.880 Well, then you're going to have to continue to adapt because every, not all women are the

01:52:41.040 same.

01:52:41.560 Of course.

01:52:42.160 Yeah, definitely.

01:52:43.840 Definitely.

01:52:44.880 But we have adapted.

01:52:48.300 I, and we've seen what's happening.

01:52:50.840 I feel like, again, it goes back to what we were talking about before with like the hookup

01:52:54.440 culture versus relationship.

01:52:56.000 Again, like most people don't respect chivalry and romance from a hookup.

01:53:01.220 Most people respect that or expect that from a boyfriend.

01:53:04.820 Sure.

01:53:05.240 Or slash girlfriend.

01:53:06.220 As long as you're clear with your intentions.

01:53:07.900 Yeah.

01:53:08.180 It all goes back to the communication and being clear with your intentions.

01:53:11.000 If you're just hooking up, then there's no pressure to act chivalrous.

01:53:15.080 Oh my God.

01:53:16.080 Yeah.

01:53:16.420 And if you're also just hooking up and you're acting like almost too romantic and the other

01:53:20.420 person doesn't want anything more, it can be kind of a turnoff.

01:53:23.700 Yeah.

01:53:24.240 So you guys said that you kind of agreed like, hey, maybe the chivalry romantic stuff, maybe

01:53:30.120 not off rip, not from the get go.

01:53:34.140 So I guess my question is then, if a guy asks you out on a date, who should pay?

01:53:41.140 I think that it could be, if a guy goes to pay first, I'll let him.

01:53:50.420 But if there is a little bit of hesitancy, I will offer, like, I think that paying half

01:53:57.620 each pay.

01:53:59.500 That's fair.

01:54:00.220 We'll go around the table on this.

01:54:01.720 Actually, if you want to start over here.

01:54:03.280 So a guy asks you out on a date, who should pay?

01:54:06.520 If he's the one who asks me out, I think that he should pay.

01:54:09.380 And if he can't pay, then I'll pay.

01:54:11.560 And then he won't get a second date.

01:54:14.180 I kind of feel like the person who asks should pay.

01:54:17.580 But then again, it's like, if the person who asks wants it to be 50-50, it's not that

01:54:22.620 big of a deal to me.

01:54:23.760 Yeah.

01:54:23.960 Would there be a second date, though?

01:54:26.400 Yeah.

01:54:26.880 I don't see a problem with that, especially if it's a first date and it's nothing serious.

01:54:31.880 Okay.

01:54:32.140 So the guy asks you out and maybe, say, you go get some food or, well, you're not 21 yet,

01:54:40.940 right?

01:54:41.660 No, I'm not.

01:54:42.320 So yeah, you wouldn't like go get drinks at a bar or something, but the check comes

01:54:46.340 or the waiter comes by and he says, hey, can we get separate checks?

01:54:50.740 You wouldn't feel a certain type of way about that?

01:54:52.820 No.

01:54:53.220 Okay.

01:54:53.600 That's totally fine.

01:54:54.240 I don't really think I would care.

01:54:55.100 I kind of am weird about people paying for me, like in general, though.

01:54:58.620 Same.

01:54:58.780 So I feel like sometimes when you go out with someone, it's just more comfortable to just

01:55:04.840 pay for yourself and do it 50-50.

01:55:07.600 It really just depends on like how everything's going and how serious it is.

01:55:11.600 Actually, I just realized what I, like on dates, what I do is when the check comes, I will

01:55:17.000 ask, do you want to split?

01:55:19.280 I will ask, do you want to split?

01:55:20.860 And then it's up to them whether they want to say, no, I would like to pay or sure, that

01:55:25.440 sounds fine.

01:55:26.200 And if it's a sure, that sounds fine.

01:55:28.380 They can, they'll still be a second date depending on the chemistry that we had in that

01:55:33.980 dinner.

01:55:35.320 Did you get to answer the question?

01:55:37.200 No.

01:55:37.440 Um, so I like when a guy pays, but again, it's not necessarily a deal breaker if he

01:55:43.200 doesn't, especially if I feel like I have a connection with him and they're like, I like

01:55:46.620 him.

01:55:47.500 Um, but normally if a guy asks me out and I say yes, like it's a normal expectation that

01:55:52.540 he would pay.

01:55:53.260 But again, like, I'm not going to just be like, no, I don't like you because you didn't

01:55:56.640 pay.

01:55:57.640 Yeah.

01:55:57.960 I think for me, my assumption usually is just that it's going to be 50-50.

01:56:01.660 Like when the check comes, like I'm going to start getting out my card and if he's like,

01:56:05.480 oh no, no, no.

01:56:06.080 Like I got it.

01:56:06.800 I'm like, that's nice.

01:56:08.720 Thank you.

01:56:09.400 But my assumption was that it would be 50-50.

01:56:12.100 Okay.

01:56:12.540 And if it is 50-50, then there's no issue.

01:56:15.520 Fair.

01:56:17.080 Did you answer it right?

01:56:18.860 I think.

01:56:19.420 Do you two want to go ahead and answer?

01:56:20.900 Um, I agree.

01:56:21.640 I think if whoever's asking first, especially when it comes to a first date, you know, you

01:56:26.780 don't really know what the expectations are.

01:56:28.140 Or it would be a nice for a guy to pay, but at the end of the day, I really don't mind.

01:56:34.700 And what me and my boyfriend have done is switch the state he gets it, the state I get

01:56:40.000 it, or this next date we go 50-50.

01:56:42.820 So it really depends.

01:56:45.120 I agree with her.

01:56:46.180 I feel like if a guy is asking me out on a first date, he's the one asking me.

01:56:50.660 So I want him to pay.

01:56:52.480 Because I feel like that also just like, I don't know, that shows me kind of like his character.

01:56:57.160 Like, he's like more serious at first, you know?

01:56:59.880 But let's say like, we were actually to like, pursue a relationship, like be in a relationship.

01:57:04.900 Like, based on my last one, like, I would pay for some stuff.

01:57:08.060 You know what I mean?

01:57:08.880 I wouldn't like be like, oh, he has to pay for everything.

01:57:11.780 Like, I'm going to pay from time to time.

01:57:14.080 I agree.

01:57:14.640 But I feel like a first date is like a very specific thing.

01:57:18.640 Like, I feel like if a guy asks me out on a date, it's kind of expected that he would

01:57:23.500 pay.

01:57:23.660 But like, going on, like later on in dates, like, I don't mind.

01:57:26.880 I think it just depends.

01:57:28.340 Yeah, I agree with that.

01:57:29.220 In my past relationships, there's been many times where like, I've paid for both of us.

01:57:32.860 Like, but I feel like overall, like, with the boyfriends I've had, they've generally paid

01:57:37.120 more.

01:57:37.640 Yeah.

01:57:39.300 Yeah.

01:57:39.740 So I guess the reason I asked is just because we were talking about not being upfront with

01:57:46.140 the romance, but I mean, I guess you could say one men paying on the first date is them

01:57:51.840 adhering to their traditional gender role.

01:57:55.580 So I guess sort of for those of you who said the guy should pay, my question is, how do you

01:58:01.320 kind of reconcile your stance insofar as having, I'm using a lot of filler words there, Jesus

01:58:07.800 Christ, insofar, ergo, vis-a-vis, how do you reconcile this idea of, Jesus, the guy not

01:58:18.340 being upfront with romance, but also expecting the guy to pay on the first date?

01:58:22.440 How do you reconcile that?

01:58:24.400 Wait, I'm sorry.

01:58:25.160 I'm confused.

01:58:25.700 Of the women that said they, like, for example, you said that if a guy asked you out on the

01:58:32.800 date and he said to go 50-50, you'd pay, but there wouldn't be a second date.

01:58:38.040 How do you reconcile that with guys should not be upfront with their romance or their

01:58:44.260 traditional gender roles?

01:58:46.000 Well, I think if a guy asked you on a date, it's assumed that he, I mean, I feel like he

01:58:50.780 has to make his intentions clear.

01:58:52.280 You know, if he's like, I want to take you on a date to pursue a relationship later

01:58:56.780 on, then that's different.

01:58:58.200 But if it's like, oh, let's like casually go out, that's like different.

01:59:02.720 You know, I just feel like it all comes down to me.

01:59:04.020 Wait, so hold on.

01:59:04.940 If a guy asks you on a first date and he's like, I'm interested in pursuing a relationship

01:59:10.580 with you, then, then you'll be like, okay, well actually we can go 50-50.

01:59:16.240 No.

01:59:16.960 Or is that then?

01:59:18.020 Like I said, like a first date is completely different than like a relationship later on.

01:59:22.280 Like if a guy asked you out on a date, then it's assumed that he's going to pay for the

01:59:28.220 date because he's the one who asked you out.

01:59:29.960 If you're like, let's go out together.

01:59:32.000 Like if you're the one who says something, then that's different.

01:59:34.260 But I feel like it's just, I don't know, it's just assumed that if a guy's the one who

01:59:38.260 asks you out, he's the one who pays.

01:59:42.680 I disagree.

01:59:44.800 Why?

01:59:45.160 Well, I mean, we all believe in equality, right?

01:59:51.740 I mean, right, you know, equality, that whole thing, that's kind of cool.

01:59:57.300 So shouldn't we just, whenever you go on a date with someone, shouldn't we just each

02:00:01.660 pay 50-50?

02:00:03.880 Just pay, you pay your bill, he pays his.

02:00:06.700 But if he's the one who asked me out, he's the one who asked me on the date.

02:00:10.140 Have you ever, have you ever asked a guy out on a first date?

02:00:13.540 No, I haven't because they've asked me on the date.

02:00:18.800 But so that's the thing though.

02:00:20.240 But like later on in a relationship, like for example, in my relationship on the first

02:00:24.500 date he paid, but later on we took turns paying for stuff.

02:00:27.720 Like for example, I would buy him stuff that's not necessarily a date.

02:00:31.100 Like I would be like, oh, let me just like order you something.

02:00:33.540 But we're talking first date.

02:00:34.640 We're talking first date.

02:00:35.360 First date, the guy pays.

02:00:36.640 First date, guy pays.

02:00:37.800 Yes.

02:00:38.060 I disagree.

02:00:38.840 Okay.

02:00:39.040 I feel like it's got to be assumed that it's 50-50 off the bat.

02:00:42.220 It's just like, no matter what, then you're just reinforcing the stereotype that men do

02:00:46.440 have to pay.

02:00:46.860 No, but here's the thing.

02:00:47.880 I don't think that she's necessarily wrong because there's a lot of women that are all

02:00:53.000 for 50-50, but there are definitely some women that if the guy asks, he should pay.

02:00:59.220 And I think it's okay for women to have that standard.

02:01:04.560 Everyone can have their preferences, right?

02:01:06.200 But it's hard to reconcile the guy should pay with, I believe in equality, we're all equals.

02:01:20.660 Well, you're kind of saying we're not equals.

02:01:22.560 Yeah, that's what I mean.

02:01:23.440 It's like, I don't know.

02:01:25.260 I feel like the assumption, yeah, it just reinforces the stereotype that it should.

02:01:29.980 But maybe that's the type of relationship she wants.

02:01:33.600 It just seems like you want to get free food.

02:01:35.340 I just feel like you're not trying to get...

02:01:37.820 That could be it.

02:01:37.840 Because no matter what, if you're trying to get to know someone going out on a date to

02:01:41.880 a restaurant where you have to pay, that's not going to change getting to know the person.

02:01:45.640 I feel like 50-50, it's like, okay, you're equally paying to get to know each other.

02:01:50.100 It's not like they're paying you for your time.

02:01:54.220 Yeah, but if a guy's like, let me take you out, that means he's the one taking me out.

02:01:58.820 Why am I going to go 50-50 if he's the one taking me out?

02:02:01.720 Later on in a relationship, second, third, fourth date, that's different.

02:02:05.400 But I feel like first date is first impression.

02:02:07.500 And if off the bat, you're telling me we have to split, that's a red flag to me.

02:02:11.440 You're not going to get a second date.

02:02:12.460 Yeah, I agree with that because it's the first date and they're the ones that want

02:02:18.420 to pursue you at first.

02:02:20.600 You want to see if you want them too, but they're the ones who approached you first.

02:02:24.940 Exactly.

02:02:25.860 And I feel like by them paying for the first date shows that they take you more seriously

02:02:31.400 than asking you to split it.

02:02:33.580 If a man asked me that on the first date and he was the one who wanted me at first,

02:02:39.120 I feel like, yeah, I wouldn't go on a second date.

02:02:41.720 That's just me, though.

02:02:42.660 But when we actually are in a relationship, yeah, I will split it like a trade-off.

02:02:47.800 Like you guys were saying, like, pay for some things and he pays for some things.

02:02:52.660 Yeah, I mean, I think the issue, though, with whoever asks should pay is, I mean,

02:02:59.040 I know you're an outlier because apparently you do all the asking.

02:03:02.300 But de facto, the vast majority of the time, men are going to have to be the ones that initiate.

02:03:09.480 So men are the ones that have to ask for the date.

02:03:12.900 So de facto, men are the ones that are going to, there's going to be a sort of a presumption

02:03:18.040 that not in all cases, but that the guy's going to have to pay.

02:03:21.140 So if your answer is whoever asks should pay, you might as well, your position might as

02:03:27.800 well be the guy should pay on the first date because the vast majority of the time, and

02:03:34.080 I feel like people, like, the age at this table is pretty young.

02:03:39.180 So some of you might not have even been, like, on a proper, like, the guy asks you out to

02:03:44.480 go get food or something.

02:03:45.520 I mean, I don't want to speak for you guys, but I feel like at least when you're younger,

02:03:50.180 a lot of dating, dating, hooking up is just like, let's hang out somewhere.

02:03:56.740 Like, let's, it could be within a friend group.

02:04:00.000 It could, let's meet up after a party or, like, stuff like that.

02:04:03.500 So whereas I think once you get a bit older, then it starts to become a bit more proper

02:04:10.620 in terms of let's meet here at this time.

02:04:13.140 Let's get drinks.

02:04:13.940 Let's go get food, whatever it may be.

02:04:15.520 Yeah, and also because at that time, more people are going to be wanting to look for

02:04:20.080 something that's long-lasting or someone that they're getting married to, and that's not

02:04:25.140 traditionally what a younger crowd is looking for.

02:04:28.960 Yeah, there are some outliers there.

02:04:30.420 There are some people that, you know, do want to settle down quite early, and good for them.

02:04:35.720 But yeah, the tone of people who are dating who are younger are not traditionally defined

02:04:41.120 their soulmate, their, you know, their life partner.

02:04:45.840 Word, word.

02:04:47.400 Let me get some super chats, and then we're going to do a video reaction.

02:04:50.380 So we got big Mike Trilstein here with the subsequent $500 super chat.

02:04:55.480 You're fucking legend, dude.

02:04:56.600 Third account, since I maxed out the first two, listen, 305s.

02:05:00.680 Jesus.

02:05:02.040 Be gentle.

02:05:02.740 Be gentle, Trilstein.

02:05:04.360 You're better seen and not heard.

02:05:06.480 Jesus Christ.

02:05:07.800 Go to the kitchen and make whatever a sandwich.

02:05:10.400 Sorry, dude.

02:05:10.820 We don't have any cold cuts here.

02:05:12.280 Remember, I'm a comedian and ballroom dancer.

02:05:14.480 So, guys, I think he's playfully roasting you guys here because he's a comedian.

02:05:19.740 Oh, yeah.

02:05:20.160 Of course, of course.

02:05:21.660 I'm just kidding, unless you're going to do it.

02:05:24.260 P.S., looking for a third girlfriend.

02:05:25.960 What say you, cat ladies?

02:05:29.220 Mike Trilstein, he's...

02:05:31.880 Don't call him a legend again.

02:05:33.360 Find up something new.

02:05:36.480 He's been, to be fair, he's kind of a fucking legend dropping these $500 super chats.

02:05:40.560 Well, sure, but give him a different compliment.

02:05:41.840 He's giving you a lot of money.

02:05:42.940 Oh, okay, so you're saying I need more diversity.

02:05:46.220 You need more content.

02:05:47.500 I need more diversity in my compliments.

02:05:50.060 Hit him with something new.

02:05:50.960 Make him feel good.

02:05:51.960 Mike Trilstein, you are a gentleman and a scholar.

02:05:54.480 Thank you very much.

02:05:57.640 I think he also goes by top Jew, like, because he's Jewish.

02:06:02.020 So, that's his term.

02:06:03.780 He calls himself the top, instead of top G, he's the top Jew.

02:06:08.240 Okay, anyways.

02:06:08.920 I think you're welcome.

02:06:10.000 So, thank you, man.

02:06:10.740 By the way, I think he's asking if any of you guys are willing to be his third girlfriend.

02:06:17.340 Any takers?

02:06:18.240 No, thank you, but thanks for asking.

02:06:20.060 Nobody?

02:06:20.680 Any takers?

02:06:21.440 I'm good.

02:06:22.020 Deep pockets, I guess.

02:06:24.700 Michael Trilstein, by the way, how did you make all your Bitcoin?

02:06:30.320 Crypto?

02:06:30.740 Anyways.

02:06:31.900 Mike Dust, sorry, with the $10 soup chat.

02:06:35.140 Thank you, man, for the support.

02:06:36.640 The real ratings for tonight, oh, Jesus.

02:06:40.580 Nicole 7, Gabby 5, Emily 5, Sophia 6, Ashley 4, Aria 6, Emily 7, and Ashley.

02:06:45.620 And Jesus Christ, Mike.

02:06:47.660 All right, I'm going to hide that.

02:06:48.960 Guys, we've got to be nice.

02:06:50.360 You're the seven.

02:06:50.440 Wow, chat.

02:06:55.160 Come on, guys.

02:06:55.740 You've got to be nice a little bit.

02:06:57.280 Oh, commodities ETFs?

02:06:59.480 Okay.

02:07:01.940 So, we're going to react to a video here, and we will get to go around the table and let

02:07:07.080 everyone give their answer to the initial question I asked.

02:07:10.500 But, so, this is a video, this is from the Joe Rogan podcast.

02:07:17.040 He's interviewing a female, I think, kickboxing champion, and she's talking about, well, let's

02:07:24.060 just play up and you'll see.

02:07:26.300 So, it's Joe Rogan, the first one.

02:07:28.780 Yeah, there we go.

02:07:31.220 It's not, it doesn't bug me when somebody is just, they have, you know, a slender neck,

02:07:35.840 but when they go through so much trouble to look like an alpha male, but they have that

02:07:41.080 little chicken neck, and then they're posing like they're...

02:07:44.680 That's got to be a big issue with you.

02:07:47.080 Like, as a woman, like the way you interact with men, as a world champion Muay Thai woman...

02:07:53.460 Yeah, I haven't figured that out.

02:07:54.860 You have to have a hard time with the men.

02:07:56.540 I do.

02:07:57.480 I bet you do.

02:07:58.400 I do.

02:07:58.960 Yeah.

02:07:59.500 Yeah.

02:07:59.680 Because you need to get a real one, like a real, real one.

02:08:02.600 Like, that's the only way it's going to work.

02:08:03.920 Yeah, it isn't, no.

02:08:04.880 Yeah.

02:08:05.240 Like, imagine, it's hard out there for a pimp.

02:08:08.660 It is, right?

02:08:09.960 So, I had his great boyfriend, but we went out of country.

02:08:17.180 We fought on the same card.

02:08:18.560 He fought the day before me.

02:08:20.340 I fought the next day.

02:08:22.000 During the fight, he almost gets knocked out.

02:08:26.160 As this guy is mauling him, he goes like this.

02:08:31.120 What do you think I was thinking?

02:08:32.640 Um, not good thoughts.

02:08:36.700 The boyfriend.

02:08:37.700 The boyfriend.

02:08:38.420 My boyfriend.

02:08:39.600 Like this.

02:08:40.840 Yeah, you didn't like it.

02:08:42.240 Fuck no.

02:08:43.160 Did it turn you off?

02:08:44.420 Oh my God, so much.

02:08:45.960 Whoa.

02:08:46.640 I was like, dude, you're getting fucked up, and you drop...

02:08:49.060 As you're falling to the canvas, you still need to go fuck you.

02:08:52.320 Wow.

02:08:52.600 You're like, fuck you.

02:08:54.960 Like that.

02:08:55.340 So, the way he was getting beaten was fucking with you?

02:08:59.160 Yeah.

02:08:59.420 It wasn't just that he was getting beaten.

02:09:00.980 I don't care.

02:09:01.440 I don't know.

02:09:01.720 It was just that he was like shying away.

02:09:02.880 I don't care.

02:09:03.080 Yeah, I don't care.

02:09:04.120 That he wasn't digging in.

02:09:04.760 You're not going to...

02:09:05.400 Yeah.

02:09:06.500 Like, you got to fucking, like, take that shit.

02:09:09.180 Take it.

02:09:09.880 Yeah.

02:09:10.400 Yeah.

02:09:10.540 Like, you know, like a champ or like a fighter.

02:09:13.120 Right.

02:09:13.540 Yeah.

02:09:13.840 You can't be like...

02:09:15.340 Wow.

02:09:16.300 That was...

02:09:16.700 Ugh.

02:09:18.740 Sorry.

02:09:19.300 Was that the beginning of the end?

02:09:21.800 Yeah.

02:09:22.420 That was tap, tap, tap.

02:09:22.900 And he was a great boyfriend.

02:09:23.700 First couple of nails?

02:09:24.440 He was great.

02:09:25.460 Tap, tap, tap, tap, tap.

02:09:26.840 Yes, it was.

02:09:27.420 Tap, tap, tap.

02:09:28.080 It was.

02:09:28.820 Maybe sometimes it's like, that's the problem.

02:09:30.860 It's like the balance.

02:09:31.680 The ones who are not going to be great boyfriends are the ones that are going to turn you on.

02:09:34.860 Yeah.

02:09:35.140 Because they're ruthless.

02:09:36.860 Yeah.

02:09:37.420 Yeah.

02:09:37.700 Yeah.

02:09:39.340 I was like, I can balance that shit.

02:09:41.220 Like I said.

02:09:41.620 I can be ruthless.

02:09:42.480 Yeah.

02:09:43.060 Be like...

02:09:43.900 Anyways, I think that's kind of the extent of the clip.

02:09:46.800 So, she was kind of describing the situation.

02:09:49.020 She was at, I guess, an MMA event with her boyfriend, ex-boyfriend.

02:09:53.500 He got knocked out, and she lost all attraction for him.

02:09:57.060 So, thoughts on the clip?

02:10:00.160 Thoughts on that?

02:10:00.920 And, you know, if you caught it towards the end there, she said something along the lines

02:10:04.660 of, he was a great guy.

02:10:06.800 Great guy.

02:10:07.500 But, this happened, and I lost all attraction for him.

02:10:10.380 So, your thoughts, if any.

02:10:12.960 Actually, you know what?

02:10:13.880 Let's start on this side.

02:10:15.420 Go ahead.

02:10:15.620 I think it just depends on the kind of man you want.

02:10:19.340 Some women really want, like, an alpha, strong man, and other women want a sensitive man.

02:10:24.420 I just think it depends on the person.

02:10:26.360 What do you want?

02:10:29.840 I don't know.

02:10:30.840 I mean, I don't really have a preference.

02:10:33.680 I like men who are sensitive, but I also like men who are alpha and strong.

02:10:38.520 It just depends, I think, on the person.

02:10:40.840 If your boyfriend, you saw your boyfriend get fucked up, like, knocked out in a fight,

02:10:46.700 would you, do you think you would lose attraction for him?

02:10:49.220 No, I wouldn't lose attraction for him.

02:10:51.440 What if he, what about if he cowered?

02:10:55.000 Like, let's say there's a zombie apocalypse.

02:10:57.500 Oh, yeah.

02:10:58.320 And he cowers in the face of the zombies.

02:11:01.440 Then he's going to die.

02:11:02.180 Maybe that's a ridiculous scenario.

02:11:03.780 Let's say there's, like, some shit goes down, and he cowers, and you see it.

02:11:10.360 Do you lose attraction?

02:11:13.420 I don't think I would lose attraction.

02:11:16.000 I don't think so.

02:11:17.720 I think that I probably wouldn't like it, but I think, like, to base one thing off of, like,

02:11:22.360 losing all attraction for him, like she said, I think that's kind of a stretch.

02:11:26.380 Some, some guy, while he's in your presence, some guy comes up and disrespects you in some way,

02:11:35.940 and he doesn't say anything.

02:11:38.920 Do you, what about then?

02:11:41.040 That's different.

02:11:41.920 I would lose attraction for a guy who did that.

02:11:44.600 Because that's different.

02:11:45.940 Sure.

02:11:46.220 I feel like that's the whole idea of, like, having one singular ick and, like, losing

02:11:52.820 attraction over one thing is kind of stupid, because, like, if you love someone, you love

02:11:57.360 them no matter what.

02:11:58.860 So, like, yeah, it's okay.

02:12:00.240 Wait, hold on.

02:12:01.320 Yes.

02:12:01.860 Repeat that last part.

02:12:02.880 If you love someone, you love them no matter what.

02:12:04.800 Are you talking about unconditional love?

02:12:06.580 Yes.

02:12:07.160 I don't believe there's such a thing.

02:12:08.840 Okay, well, I do.

02:12:09.520 Because we all love unconditional, you believe there's unconditional love.

02:12:12.740 Yeah.

02:12:12.960 Maybe for a child, maybe, even then, I feel like there's conditions, but.

02:12:18.400 Yeah.

02:12:19.640 Do you have kids, by the way?

02:12:21.660 No.

02:12:21.880 Okay.

02:12:22.340 Absolutely not.

02:12:23.780 But so, have you ever had that love for anybody?

02:12:28.000 Yeah, I think that I have.

02:12:29.460 A romantic partner?

02:12:30.480 Yeah.

02:12:31.200 You've had unconditional love.

02:12:34.060 Did you break up with him, or did he break up with you?

02:12:37.260 I broke up with him.

02:12:38.980 Well, it must have been conditional.

02:12:40.700 You fell out of unconditional love?

02:12:44.200 How does that work?

02:12:44.800 We didn't talk.

02:12:46.140 So, I feel like that doesn't really.

02:12:48.040 So, there were conditions to your love?

02:12:49.900 Communication?

02:12:51.640 Talking?

02:12:52.520 I guess, yeah.

02:12:54.400 Okay.

02:12:54.980 But I feel like that's the bare minimum.

02:12:57.080 Like, that should be a thing no matter what.

02:12:58.660 Like, I shouldn't have to ask for that.

02:13:02.320 Like, that shouldn't be one of my conditions.

02:13:03.880 Like, you should just do that.

02:13:04.860 If you're dating somebody, you talk to them.

02:13:06.700 But so, but unconditional love.

02:13:09.520 That's what we're talking about, right?

02:13:10.780 Mm-hmm.

02:13:11.900 So, there's nothing.

02:13:13.080 If you have unconditional love for someone, there's nothing he could do to fuck that up.

02:13:19.180 Like, murder a bunch of people and shit.

02:13:21.460 Okay.

02:13:22.200 I guess you're right.

02:13:23.680 There are some conditions under which you would no longer love someone, right?

02:13:28.660 Yeah.

02:13:29.400 Sure.

02:13:30.060 But, like, I'm saying, like, something like this shouldn't be a condition.

02:13:34.800 Like.

02:13:35.440 Okay.

02:13:35.900 I see.

02:13:36.840 Yeah.

02:13:37.500 Okay.

02:13:38.020 Maybe I'm being, I'm, like, using an extreme here to try to make my point.

02:13:43.680 But.

02:13:43.860 For, like, unconditional love, you could, if one believes in that, then, like, it's not like they do something and you fall out of love with them.

02:13:52.460 They do something really bad, you just don't want to be with them anymore.

02:13:55.000 But, you can still love them, you know, if you truly believe in that.

02:13:59.280 Mm-hmm.

02:14:01.540 Anyone else on the unconditional love?

02:14:04.400 Yay, nay?

02:14:05.320 I don't believe that there is unconditional love.

02:14:10.640 But, just, but not, not to, like, debate because I, I don't want to, like, try to convince somebody.

02:14:16.440 Sure.

02:14:16.840 Of my point.

02:14:17.780 But, you never know.

02:14:19.900 There could be something that comes up that just, like, for that video, that was something that she just couldn't look past.

02:14:28.260 And, it's not her fault.

02:14:29.300 It's not her boyfriend's fault.

02:14:30.680 It was just something that happened and couldn't unhappen.

02:14:33.860 And, that's, that's that.

02:14:35.180 Sure.

02:14:38.200 We were going around on something.

02:14:39.740 What did, what did I?

02:14:41.120 Oh, yeah.

02:14:41.940 We were.

02:14:42.100 Just talking about the video.

02:14:43.120 Yeah.

02:14:43.600 Yeah.

02:14:44.200 The video.

02:14:44.640 Oh, yeah.

02:14:45.200 So, do you want to give your take?

02:14:47.540 Like, I mean, I feel like I generally tend to, like, kind of more of that, like, alpha ideal.

02:14:53.540 But, I agree with Arya in a way that, like, something like that wouldn't necessarily turn me off so much.

02:14:58.040 I'd have to break up with him, you know?

02:14:59.840 So, yeah.

02:15:03.720 All right.

02:15:04.460 I'll go.

02:15:06.280 I feel like, for me, also, this has been brought up, the whole, like, alpha male.

02:15:10.820 I hate that word.

02:15:11.940 I hate the word alpha male with a passion.

02:15:14.660 And, it's like.

02:15:15.660 I agree with you.

02:15:16.700 I don't like the alpha, beta terminology.

02:15:19.240 The whole thing is just stupid categorizing men as if, like, oh, you're alpha because you eat raw meat and you're a manly man.

02:15:25.420 Like, okay, shut the fuck up.

02:15:26.880 Sorry.

02:15:27.460 I'm not a fan of it.

02:15:28.340 One question for the chat.

02:15:29.680 Any sigma males in the chat?

02:15:32.020 Oh, God.

02:15:32.500 We got some sigma males in the chat?

02:15:34.740 Okay.

02:15:35.000 Sorry.

02:15:35.480 Go ahead.

02:15:37.580 But, yeah.

02:15:38.300 Actually, I was watching that video.

02:15:40.200 I was like, you're.

02:15:42.280 I get it.

02:15:43.120 Maybe it's her preference that, like, oh, like, she doesn't, again, it's, like, the whole alpha male thing.

02:15:48.140 Like, oh, he wasn't alpha.

02:15:49.020 He didn't stand up for himself.

02:15:50.300 But, like, if you were, if someone was about to, like, hit you in the face, like, what, are you really going to, like, stand there and take it?

02:15:55.800 The whole stand there and take it like a man, I don't, like, maybe it's just me.

02:15:59.540 I, like, I want a man to have feelings, you know?

02:16:02.820 Not every guy is going to, like, stand up and be, like, yeah, I'm just going to take hits.

02:16:06.240 Like, be, like, I'm a strong man and I'm just going to sit here because I'm a man.

02:16:10.400 I'm not going to feel any emotion about it.

02:16:11.980 I'm not going to cry.

02:16:12.760 I'm not going to, you know, lay down and take it.

02:16:15.300 It's, like, there's just such an expectation that I hate with that.

02:16:20.140 And I feel, like, with that girl and especially of being her boyfriend, like, I could say maybe, like, you're courting some guy and you see him in an MMA fight and he loses.

02:16:30.160 And you're, like, oh, like, I don't want to date a loser.

02:16:32.380 But, like, this is your boyfriend.

02:16:33.840 This is someone that you've already told them that you're interested in them.

02:16:37.480 You love them for other things.

02:16:38.720 And, like, oh, it's his sport and he loses.

02:16:40.820 Like, that makes you unattracted to him.

02:16:42.960 I feel like there's just an issue with how you're defining, like, the way you love someone.

02:16:47.600 Because you shouldn't have been in a relationship with that person if that's what's going to cut it for you.

02:16:55.420 One thing that I do want to point out with this video is that she is also a fighter.

02:17:00.600 And so this is something that is really close to her.

02:17:04.780 And so she was spiked by seeing her boyfriend go down in such a way as she believes that a fighter should not.

02:17:14.060 And when it's touching on something that's so close to something to home, not close to home, but something that you love so much, then, yeah, that can also bring in some factors there.

02:17:25.540 As far as if I were in a relationship with someone and I saw my boyfriend getting pummeled, I'd probably jump in there and probably do what I could to help.

02:17:37.260 Because, yeah, no one wants to get hit in the face.

02:17:39.520 That can't really feel too good.

02:17:40.740 But like I said earlier, if you're with someone and they do something that you just cannot get past, again, that's just a preference to you.

02:17:57.240 That's something that makes you unique in what you like in other people.

02:18:01.840 Your reaction to the video?

02:18:02.960 Personally, I think I don't think I would, you know, lose interest.

02:18:09.880 I think it's one thing if it's you're getting hit in the face out of nowhere for the one time, you know, like you said, it's very close to her.

02:18:21.200 And it's something that mattered.

02:18:22.380 And everyone has, you know, their own different icks.

02:18:26.040 And if that's your ick, then that's okay.

02:18:28.820 But personally, I don't think I'd be like, you're kind of being a bitch right now, you know, if you're getting hit in the face.

02:18:35.360 I'd be like, okay, you got it.

02:18:37.840 Let's get up.

02:18:38.700 Let's go kick some ass.

02:18:41.400 I was thinking exactly what she was saying.

02:18:44.040 The fact that she's a kickboxer herself is very, like, specific to this situation.

02:18:51.500 Because maybe if she was out on, like, whatever you call that, what do you call that?

02:18:55.880 The ring.

02:18:56.320 The ring.

02:18:57.680 The ring, whatever.

02:18:58.820 If she was out there, maybe she wouldn't have done that.

02:19:02.760 Like, maybe she was like, okay, I'm going to fight through.

02:19:04.720 I'm not going to, like, back out.

02:19:06.880 You know, it's very specific to the sport.

02:19:09.060 And she knows more about it than, like, us as average people.

02:19:13.440 So, and her participating in that, she probably has this image of, like, a man in that sport who, I don't know.

02:19:22.720 I feel the same way about, like, the gym.

02:19:24.800 I don't know, like, men in the gym.

02:19:26.060 I don't know.

02:19:26.320 But, you know, I want men that work out in the gym to be on the same level as me in the gym.

02:19:31.700 Does that make sense?

02:19:33.200 Sure.

02:19:33.620 I'm trying to pursue something with them.

02:19:34.760 Yeah.

02:19:35.060 You want a commonality there.

02:19:36.760 But, as far as, like, in an actual relationship, like, one of the main reasons why my last one ended is because I actually had boxing gloves on.

02:19:47.780 And I was, like, with my ex.

02:19:48.860 And some guy came into the room and he was, like, laughing, like, starting to laugh just at the fact that I had boxing gloves on.

02:19:55.760 And I was, like, what the fuck are you laughing at?

02:19:57.660 Like, keep walking.

02:19:59.240 And then he was, like, he got scared or whatever.

02:20:01.720 He walked away.

02:20:02.640 But then my ex goes, not going to lie, it is funny sometimes.

02:20:06.000 And then I just started, like, raging.

02:20:07.260 I'm, like, what do you mean it is funny?

02:20:09.380 Like, I'm boxing because of, like, how men, like, approach, like, women and stuff like that, the situations I might get into.

02:20:16.300 And so the next day I broke up with him because, to me, that was a very, like, telling factor.

02:20:20.900 Like, how are you going to let some man, like, treat me like that even if he didn't, like, physically do anything?

02:20:25.020 Like, it was obviously, like, hurtful.

02:20:27.740 You know what I mean?

02:20:28.300 And you should stand up for your woman.

02:20:29.920 Sorry to go on a little, like, ramp.

02:20:31.340 No, no.

02:20:31.640 Actually, it's good.

02:20:32.840 We appreciate it.

02:20:33.540 We appreciate that.

02:20:34.280 So, you had boxing gloves on where you were just in, like, a, where was this?

02:20:40.680 Like, my apartment gym.

02:20:42.140 There's, like, a punching bag.

02:20:43.100 Your apartment's gym?

02:20:44.360 Yeah.

02:20:44.700 Okay.

02:20:45.240 You had boxing gloves on.

02:20:47.740 You were with your boyfriend.

02:20:49.120 Mm-hmm.

02:20:49.640 Were you guys training together or working out or what was the context?

02:20:52.000 Yeah, we were working out together.

02:20:54.000 A guy comes in.

02:20:55.360 Mm-hmm.

02:20:56.060 Friend of yours or just a random dude?

02:20:57.760 Random dude.

02:20:58.360 Random dude.

02:20:58.860 Don't even know him.

02:20:59.880 Became my friend later, actually.

02:21:01.240 It was weird, but.

02:21:02.160 He became your friend later.

02:21:03.200 Yeah.

02:21:03.360 The guy who was basically the precipitating factor in your breakup with your current boyfriend.

02:21:08.980 Okay, that's interesting how life works sometimes.

02:21:12.640 So, what did he say?

02:21:14.780 He said, that's funny?

02:21:16.320 Like, you were.

02:21:16.700 Like, my ex was, like, because that guy was just, like, laughing, right?

02:21:19.500 He was, like, trying not to burst out laughing.

02:21:21.860 And then I kind of shoot him off.

02:21:22.820 I mean, can you show us how you were.

02:21:24.800 I wasn't even boxing at that time.

02:21:26.920 I just had them, like, on.

02:21:27.600 You just had them on.

02:21:28.180 It was, like, a little intermission, too.

02:21:29.580 I don't know.

02:21:29.920 Maybe I was, like, talking.

02:21:31.280 But I guess that guy thought it was funny.

02:21:32.880 I had boxing gloves on.

02:21:33.900 Like, oh, this skinny girl, like, at the time was, like, you know.

02:21:38.000 Skinny at the time.

02:21:39.000 Like, I'm still, like, skinny, I think.

02:21:40.760 But, like, I was much skinnier.

02:21:42.160 Like, now I've been, like, lifting and stuff.

02:21:43.860 But.

02:21:44.080 Okay.

02:21:44.520 You get what I'm saying.

02:21:45.380 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:21:45.820 I think it's more the fact that someone is making fun of you and your significant other isn't defending you.

02:21:55.040 Me, personally.

02:21:56.180 Yeah.

02:21:57.000 You can, you know, I, me and my boyfriend have this rule.

02:22:02.020 Agree with each other in public.

02:22:03.780 Disagree in private.

02:22:05.000 That's good.

02:22:05.640 Yeah.

02:22:05.900 You are one.

02:22:07.420 You're supposed to defend each other and be there for each other.

02:22:10.760 And if you disagree, then that's great.

02:22:12.980 Let's talk about it in private where no one else is going to be, like, yeah, even your boyfriend thinks you're funny looking with, like, boxing gloves on.

02:22:22.240 No, yeah, I love that rule.

02:22:23.480 I actually really love that rule.

02:22:24.840 Me too, yeah.

02:22:25.680 That's really good.

02:22:26.280 Like, definitely.

02:22:27.380 And actually, one of the worst things that you can do is if you're, because in relationships, there's going to be periods of disagreement, arguments.

02:22:35.320 It happens in relationships.

02:22:36.580 I think one of the worst things you can do is sometimes to go to your family or to go to your friends and start airing the arguments or the dramas with them.

02:22:51.800 Because when you and your boyfriend inevitably work through it or make up, your friends are still going to be like, fuck that guy.

02:22:59.400 He did X, Y, Z, you know.

02:23:00.580 And it's just like, I think sometimes it's best to try to work things out privately if you really, really need advice on the situation.

02:23:07.800 But if every time there's a little thing and you go to your girlfriend and say, he did X, Y, you know, it's going to kind of, like, paint him in a certain light.

02:23:16.680 So, but 100%, like, also with friends, like, in public, you don't challenge them.

02:23:24.140 Like, you do that shit after the fact.

02:23:26.140 So, that's a really good point.

02:23:27.960 Wait, so just to clarify on the whole boxing glove situation, the guy was laughing at you.

02:23:32.720 Your boyfriend didn't really come to your defense and that was the straw that broke the camel's back and you dumped him the next day.

02:23:41.880 Yeah, like, that was, like, the last red flag out of, like, 30.

02:23:46.760 I mean, was it kind of, because, I mean, was it kind of already not going great?

02:23:52.320 Yeah, I had already broken up with him, like, once before and then we jumped back into the relationship, like, really quick.

02:23:58.460 But, like, in reality, like, I shouldn't have done that.

02:24:02.020 Like, I shouldn't have tried to give, like, a second chance.

02:24:04.600 And then it made me look bad because it made it seem like I was breaking up with him as soon as we got here.

02:24:08.880 Like, I just wanted to, like, sleep with other guys.

02:24:11.240 And now, like, his friends will still come up to me and be like, you broke his heart.

02:24:15.120 And there's just, like, a bunch of, like, drama over that.

02:24:18.080 Okay.

02:24:18.840 I don't know, but that's kind of, like, what broke it for me because, I don't know.

02:24:23.240 I just felt like he should have, like, defended me.

02:24:25.260 It's okay for my boyfriend to laugh at me boxing because that's my boyfriend.

02:24:29.020 It's the same thing with, like, oh, like, I can make fun of my family or, like, hit my sister playfully or, like, make fun of her, but you can't.

02:24:35.900 It's kind of, like, the same concept.

02:24:37.980 Yeah, I feel that.

02:24:38.760 So what would have been the ideal response for him to do?

02:24:43.640 Tell the guy to shut the fuck up, get into a fight?

02:24:45.960 Like, what do you think he should have done in that situation?

02:24:48.840 I would just say effectively, like, shoot him off, like, with his words.

02:24:54.540 I would not have wanted him to get physical over something like that.

02:24:58.440 But, like, furbly stood up for me the way I did for myself because that was solely just me.

02:25:02.860 You know what I mean?

02:25:03.720 Yeah.

02:25:04.160 It doesn't take much to stand up for your significant other.

02:25:07.340 It's as simple as she's doing what she likes, and I don't think that's funny.

02:25:11.680 You know?

02:25:12.660 I agree.

02:25:13.020 Chat, what do you guys think in the chat, what should the guy have done in this situation

02:25:18.480 where they were in the gym, she had boxing gloves on, some guy walks by, says some, laughs

02:25:23.980 at her or something because of the boxing gloves, and then what does the guy do in that situation?

02:25:30.820 Chat, what do you guys think?

02:25:32.520 Let it, like, let it go, or do you, what's the word?

02:25:36.320 Do you, do you, he should laugh with the guy, Michael Trilstein.

02:25:45.160 There's some interesting takes so far in the chat.

02:25:52.420 Everyone's saying laugh with him.

02:25:54.220 You should have punched her and gone to have a beer with, Jesus.

02:25:59.000 Leonardo NoCaprio.

02:26:01.180 Go out with the guy.

02:26:02.780 Okay.

02:26:03.280 All right.

02:26:06.320 These are some interesting takes here in the chat.

02:26:08.620 It's a tough one because on one hand, like, if you step to a dude, then, like, there's

02:26:13.780 always, the thing with men, like, there's always that, with men, with altercation, there's

02:26:19.240 always that potential threat of physical, like, a physical potential altercation, so.

02:26:29.200 Didn't you say that he said that it was funny also, though?

02:26:31.780 Yeah, like, after that, he was just kind of, like, in a serious tone.

02:26:36.040 He was, like, not gonna lie, it is funny sometimes.

02:26:39.280 I feel like at the very least, he could have just not said that.

02:26:42.680 Like, at the very least.

02:26:44.400 Yeah, because I can defend myself, but the fact that he was kind of, like, teaming up and

02:26:48.780 agreeing with that guy really hurt me because I made it very clear that I was thrown off

02:26:53.120 at that guy laughing at me.

02:26:54.520 Yeah.

02:26:54.660 The fact that I, like, yelled at him and told him to, like, fuck off and, like, keep walking

02:26:58.260 and then he, like, agrees with him.

02:27:01.220 You know what I mean?

02:27:01.900 Yeah.

02:27:02.220 Like, after that?

02:27:03.160 Yeah.

02:27:03.660 It's a weird interaction.

02:27:04.820 Instead of comforting me and being, like, sorry that happened, he didn't even have to

02:27:07.580 stand up for me because I can do that myself.

02:27:10.080 Yeah.

02:27:10.420 He, at the very least, he should have just not said anything.

02:27:13.280 He should have not agreed.

02:27:13.520 Was the guy physically, sorry, did you want to continue?

02:27:16.140 No, you're good.

02:27:16.700 I didn't mean to cut you off there.

02:27:18.220 Was the guy physically bigger than your boyfriend?

02:27:21.780 No, just taller.

02:27:23.060 Just taller.

02:27:23.720 Yeah.

02:27:24.000 Okay.

02:27:24.980 Because it's like, fuck, what if the dude's a fucking giant and what if, like, some fucking

02:27:29.760 jacked, like, I'm trying to think of some MMA fighter, Kamaru Usman, like, starts hitting

02:27:37.480 on your girl in front of you.

02:27:38.820 Like, what do you fucking do?

02:27:40.840 You're just like, do you swing?

02:27:43.740 You don't swing, you're going to get fucked up.

02:27:48.440 Would that be a deal breaker?

02:27:49.580 Like, if some guy was, like, but it's a fucking MMA fighter, right?

02:27:53.600 Let's say an MMA fighter is kind of disrespecting you.

02:27:56.300 Let's say we're in a relationship and I'm there, I'm there, I'm your boyfriend, and this

02:28:02.080 fucking jacked, he's got the cauliflower ears.

02:28:05.420 I know he's a fucking fighter.

02:28:07.120 And he starts disrespecting you.

02:28:11.640 Do you expect me to start swinging?

02:28:13.680 No.

02:28:14.340 I didn't even expect him to swing.

02:28:16.120 Okay.

02:28:16.960 It's a bit more egregious of a situation.

02:28:19.220 He spanks your butt.

02:28:21.500 Do I have to start swinging?

02:28:25.500 MMA jacked 6'5".

02:28:27.120 That's really complicated.

02:28:29.060 Because he disrespected you.

02:28:31.640 I don't want to lose my boyfriend over that.

02:28:33.620 He might die.

02:28:34.840 He might die.

02:28:36.860 But, like, he severely disrespected you, but he's a fucking MMA fighter.

02:28:43.260 Like, this guy will fuck your boyfriend up.

02:28:46.400 Then I wouldn't care, no.

02:28:47.800 I would understand.

02:28:48.780 He could just comfort you.

02:28:50.180 Yeah.

02:28:50.440 Because if it's a situation where you know it's going to go wrong and there's no way

02:28:53.840 anything he says or does is going to accomplish anything, then the least he can do is come

02:28:58.100 for you.

02:28:58.560 I would have never wanted him to, like, start fighting that guy.

02:29:00.940 Just, like, stood up.

02:29:01.820 Why would you want to date a guy who wants to fight, like, any guy who hits on you anyway?

02:29:06.000 Yeah.

02:29:06.560 Well, not hit on.

02:29:08.020 Not hit on her.

02:29:10.200 I don't know.

02:29:12.460 Guys, in chat.

02:29:14.500 In chat.

02:29:15.440 Kamaru Usman.

02:29:16.580 Just think of, like, the scariest MMA fighter you can think.

02:29:19.360 Kamaru Usman.

02:29:20.460 Well, he just got knocked out recently.

02:29:21.740 But who's the Francis Ngannou?

02:29:26.520 He's, like, the heavyweight guy, I think.

02:29:27.960 Or is he?

02:29:28.580 I don't know.

02:29:28.980 Francis Ngannou spanks your girlfriend's ass in front of you.

02:29:36.320 Chat, do you swing?

02:29:38.360 Do you swing or are you just like, hey, she's yours now, dude?

02:29:42.080 What do you guys do in the chat?

02:29:43.540 Jesus Christ.

02:29:44.060 That would be a fucking terrible situation to be, terrible hypothetical situation to be

02:29:48.360 put in.

02:29:49.100 Let me do a couple soup chats here.

02:29:50.540 And then we have, I think, one more video to react to.

02:29:53.480 Let's see.

02:29:54.160 We've got No Strings Attached TV.

02:29:57.120 Thank you for the Canadian $10 man.

02:29:59.320 Are you from French-speaking Canada or English-speaking Canada?

02:30:04.020 Maybe me and Sansa Stark over there can have a little conversation with you.

02:30:09.380 Chris Rock said only women, kids, and dogs are loved unconditionally.

02:30:14.820 Word?

02:30:16.040 Word?

02:30:16.680 True, I guess.

02:30:17.640 Yeah, men are loved on the condition that they provide something.

02:30:24.220 Okay.

02:30:25.720 Earl with the $10 soup chat.

02:30:27.020 Q question for the ladies.

02:30:28.180 Do any of you have long-term goals with regard to relationships?

02:30:32.180 If so, how well do those goals align given your life experience up to this point as in

02:30:37.960 the ease of attaining that goal?

02:30:39.740 Yeah, this is a good question.

02:30:42.020 So it's kind of like the question is, what do you, well, you can take it at face value,

02:30:48.080 but also just like, what are you looking for right now?

02:30:49.780 Can you get back to me?

02:30:57.480 Like I said, like, I don't know.

02:30:59.640 All right.

02:31:00.040 I guess we'll start over here and make our way around.

02:31:02.900 Go ahead.

02:31:03.060 Well, being a college student, I feel like relationships are like the last thing on my mind right now.

02:31:08.000 Like, I just want to focus on, like, myself, my career goals, and then, like, if something happens, it happens.

02:31:14.360 But, like, at this point in my life, I'm not looking for anything in a relationship.

02:31:20.080 Maybe, like, I don't know, if I'm 24, 25, 26, finish school, I'm on the right path, and I'm the best person that I can be,

02:31:27.340 then I'm looking for, like, marriage.

02:31:30.440 But, like, until it's marriage, I don't want anything serious.

02:31:34.900 I agree with having someone who, like, understands that my main focus is school,

02:31:41.140 because obviously I do have a boyfriend, and he goes to UCSB also.

02:31:45.020 So, like, he has to understand that, like, my main focus here is school,

02:31:49.760 because I'm paying a lot of money to be here, so I'm not here to have a boyfriend and have fun.

02:31:54.280 I'm here for school.

02:31:55.760 And so someone who understands that, and then again, like we talked about, communication and just, like, good intentions.

02:32:02.220 Yeah, I'd say for most of my life, I've been a very much so, like, relationship girl.

02:32:10.040 But recently I've tried to, like, focus more on myself, and that's kind of what I'm doing now.

02:32:15.600 I'm not necessarily looking for a relationship.

02:32:17.900 If something happens, then I'm not going to be opposed to it.

02:32:21.020 But I feel like the best things kind of come when you're not looking for it.

02:32:24.860 So I, like, try to have that kind of mindset.

02:32:27.260 Kiki.

02:32:27.520 Okay, go ahead.

02:32:30.760 Okay.

02:32:31.480 Yeah, I was going to say pretty much, like, the same kind of thing.

02:32:35.100 I feel like, at least right now, I'm trying not to, like, look for anything necessarily,

02:32:39.880 especially since I got out of a really serious relationship, like, not that long ago.

02:32:45.660 And going from feeling like that's going to be the person who you're going to be with for the rest of your life

02:32:50.800 and trying to, like, find that completely all over again is just not something I'm interested in getting into at this point in time.

02:32:57.880 So I'd like it eventually, but just not right now.

02:33:02.660 Me, I'm currently working on my acting career in L.A., and I've constantly got projects going on.

02:33:08.700 And so dating is not at the top of my list.

02:33:13.160 But if a sexy Latin man did want to sweep me off my feet, then I'm definitely not going to be opposed to that.

02:33:24.020 Sexy Latin.

02:33:24.900 I think it's hard to say right now, you know, with us in college and being the age that we are, we're also pretty young.

02:33:34.940 We don't really have all those life experiences that my mom has, you know,

02:33:38.860 and we don't necessarily know exactly what we're looking for.

02:33:42.860 We're finding it along the way.

02:33:44.180 But being in a relationship right now, I'm really happy with what I've found, and I'm really happy with where it is.

02:33:50.900 And if a relationship is something that I didn't want, then I, you know, like, it really depends.

02:33:58.560 It kind of goes with, like, the right person coming along.

02:34:03.600 Like she said, you don't, you really, you find things when you're not looking for it.

02:34:08.260 And I, for sure, was in the position where I was, like, I just got done with, like, high school.

02:34:16.320 I'm done with relationships.

02:34:17.460 Like, I want to focus on myself.

02:34:18.920 Da-da-da-da-da.

02:34:19.320 Da-da-da-da-da.

02:34:19.940 Da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da.

02:34:20.220 Da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-de-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da.

02:34:22.660 ended up being like my person he checks the box off everything great communication like

02:34:28.240 everything is there but it's hard to say when you're 18 19 20 even even 30 sure before you

02:34:37.700 give your answer can we get some boxing gloves in the chat for just boxing gloves in the chat

02:34:46.380 okay go ahead okay um with all my past experiences I feel like I've accumulated

02:34:53.020 really high standards but with those I realized that the person I want to attract I have to be

02:35:00.240 on that level too so I'm 100 content right now with just focusing on my career focusing on fully

02:35:08.540 loving myself like everything I dream of in a man like in the reverse I want in me because I feel

02:35:15.500 like that's the true way you can really attract something like if you know about like the law

02:35:19.320 of attraction in manifestation like I'm a believer of those things and I'm completely content with

02:35:30.080 being single right now until I reach my full potential that I want the law of attraction

02:35:35.880 yeah the secret are you talking about the secret

02:35:39.000 from like 2007 no I don't think so Eric what's up

02:35:46.860 Eric we good no what

02:35:52.060 I see it I don't see it I can see it

02:35:59.160 oh we wait just uh do you not see anything Eric

02:36:03.460 no sorry guys we're having a little technical difficulty um we're still a one in the chat we're

02:36:11.500 still live right guys can you tell us one I see the flickering guys apparently the screen

02:36:17.120 um okay we're still live Eric don't click anything on the mouse just because don't click anything Eric

02:36:24.900 um something maybe a wire got pulled up okay guys give me just a sec to address the whole

02:36:33.140 hold on guys I gotta get up I want you guys to talk amongst yourselves momentarily while I address

02:36:41.000 this technical issue um if and I know I know we initially we were going around I don't know if

02:36:49.940 everyone yet had a chance to do the one thing you wanted to get off your chest thing so and you had

02:36:55.800 a question for all of them okay wait actually let me just get super chats really quick and we'll do

02:37:00.840 that Michael actually let me you go and then we'll address okay um has any man ever made you finish

02:37:08.860 no yes yeah okay but like yes it took a really long time yeah but like what percentage out of like

02:37:19.860 all of your like bodies or the people you've been with uh 50 percent it's like five out of your

02:37:26.280 that's pretty good that's pretty good two percent I yeah just like one out of all I would say like two

02:37:35.560 out of all yeah one and it's only happened like twice mm-hmm it's rough out here okay just wondering

02:37:45.020 like I feel like a lot of guys believe that girls can't enjoy sex unless they finish and I don't

02:37:54.900 think that's I don't think that's true not true yeah like it's but a lot of guys think that yeah and

02:38:01.100 also don't underestimate foreplay yeah it also scientifically the g-spot in females is really

02:38:13.880 just behind the clit in like inside you like that's all it is and have to know where the clit was

02:38:21.180 first yeah true that most men know where it is though no probably not yeah that's definitely a no

02:38:29.100 are we still are we still oh yeah okay but it's so it's it's really hard to like make a woman finish

02:38:37.740 unless you're hitting you know like the clit is where all the nerves are of pleasure so yeah it's just

02:38:44.240 science okay I think we fixed it one in the chat are you guys getting any uh visual glitches one in

02:38:55.520 the chat or that's one in the chat if ever I already fucked this up two in the chat if everything's

02:39:02.960 okay one in the chat if there's visual glitches um okay cool sorry about that guys so you guys were

02:39:12.100 talking about climaxing I missed I missed the juicy stuff you guys are asking the important

02:39:18.880 questions wait so can you guys just go around again who the question was has a guy ever made you

02:39:25.540 has a guy ever made you climax yeah just one just one one one time or yeah it's only one encounter

02:39:35.880 yeah rip but like she was saying she was saying but like just because you don't finish doesn't

02:39:42.620 mean the sex isn't enjoyable that's true and I felt that but it's also better if you do finish

02:39:50.160 like the little cherry on top of like yes can we can we get some rips in the chat for

02:39:55.800 the women I guess who are not finishing god damn that's unfortunate my philosophy is she comes first

02:40:05.440 so here here dudes are fucking up okay wait so what was everyone else's answers just so I can

02:40:11.780 tune into the condo I said uh like two of my buddies I would say two including your boyfriend I hope

02:40:21.320 yes okay um yes but I have to be doing the work you have to do the work yes that doesn't count

02:40:30.080 doesn't count like they made you come like I'm on top I'm doing all of the activity are we are we

02:40:39.360 talking just sexual intercourse or are we talking foreplay too oh we're talking about foreplay too then

02:40:44.920 everything everything oh every time oh I thought we're talking about just like just penetrative

02:40:52.220 penetrational sex oh penetrative sex wait just like no hands either I thought we're talking about

02:40:58.200 everything I yeah I thought it was I thought it was just general yeah I thought we were just talking

02:41:02.980 about sex because a guy could make you come like he could go he could go down on you toys hands

02:41:08.960 fingers whatever it's like everything it needs to be everything yeah I can't just be penetration

02:41:16.140 yeah that's the one thing it doesn't happen with that true I hope we educated someone just now

02:41:23.660 I think so yeah you're zero yeah guys never made me come in any capacity in any way guys can we get

02:41:36.920 some rips can we get some some candle vigils in the chat for uh the girls because goddamn three-year

02:41:48.500 boyfriend by the way that's what's worth rip three years to try nothing yikes three years

02:42:00.100 see hold up but there's some Brian's getting flustered you bear some responsibility like because

02:42:13.080 you can oh here's a here's a follow-up question so wait can we do a show of hands like who's just

02:42:18.900 never climaxed with a guy I've never climbed I'll raise my hand um here here so and then but what

02:42:31.340 about like rare rare to climax with guy uncommon okay so can you make yourself climax oh yeah

02:42:44.760 no hold on let's let me let her answer first can you can you make yourself climax have you have you

02:42:50.600 tried yeah toys yeah even toys yeah not helping it's bad what's going on I don't know I don't know

02:43:00.780 we're also just young like I feel like it takes a while for people to like figure out exactly what

02:43:05.860 they like like you're not gonna know what you like until it happens yeah that's a good point

02:43:09.880 so okay you've tried though yeah it's never happened you've you've given it the old college

02:43:19.900 try the old college try and it just hasn't no ever I know I know but it's still no well I mean

02:43:30.980 I'm not sure if that's something a doctor can solve but it's scientifically scientifically sorry

02:43:36.420 interrupt you it's it's the nerve endings in that area that make you feel those things and so

02:43:44.360 there are definitely women that are yeah exactly and I think there is a percentage of women who

02:43:49.860 just can't yeah and there definitely is there definitely are some women because I just can't

02:43:54.600 like a guy can do everything right and it just won't happen do you but you still enjoy sex though

02:44:01.120 yeah I enjoy sex yeah it's just but it's just damn because it's gonna be like if you can't make

02:44:07.280 yourself come it's probably gonna be really hard for a guy to make you I disagree you think for me

02:44:13.100 it's the opposite like I need a guy like I tried toys anything else like I never had done I had

02:44:20.200 never finished before either like before having a guy like actually making additional being with the

02:44:25.540 guys like what turns me on yeah to do it yeah it's probably a more arousing more turn on when

02:44:33.820 it's the guy doing it sure but uh yeah can we get some rips in the chat for uh Ashley is it wait

02:44:41.480 what's your yeah what's your name oh Emily my bad we need to go around in the name circle again

02:44:45.900 yeah can we get some rips in the chat um damn that's shit yeah and then you you were asking

02:44:54.120 because it's been like very few guys right yeah I just wanted to like know their experience with

02:44:59.600 it too has anyone here had a threesome yeah no anybody besides Kiki and Emily Emily

02:45:07.920 foursome no orgy no okay it's a threesome though yes guy guy girl or girl girl guy girl girl guy

02:45:16.680 okay how did how was that it was fun it was uh it was one of my friend my friends and then

02:45:23.560 the guy was also one of my friends but my like crush too was it awkward after no no not at all

02:45:30.940 because we were all there we were we're all very comfortable we said let's do it and we're all kind

02:45:37.180 of like yeah let's do it no it wasn't weird at all it was fun let me get these uh super chats here

02:45:43.620 really quick actually wait let me get here Michael Cohn by the way Michael was on a was it last week's

02:45:53.040 was it I forgot which day it was but Michael was previously on the show $10 soup chat yo

02:45:59.000 Michael Trilstein the Michael versus Michael uh Michael Trilstein uh has outdone you there uh

02:46:06.660 sup Brian crypto chat here I'll know dude you can't call yourself crypto chat with Michael

02:46:11.320 Michael Michael Trilstein in the chat um sorry man that title is gonna have to uh defer to Michael

02:46:18.700 Trilstein uh girls want different men at different times sometimes they want alpha seed sometimes they

02:46:24.200 want beta need a man who only provides emotional support will not be respected I actually um disagree

02:46:33.200 with that because there are people who are um I think the term is asexual asexual where sex

02:46:41.580 just isn't what's you know isn't doing it for them or it can't do it for them and that's

02:46:50.600 and that's okay and there's people like that and I just disagree Michael Cohn thank you for the

02:46:56.520 $10 soup chat Green Lantern with the nine British pounds thank you man can we have Erica from Valentine's

02:47:01.160 the Valentine's Day video in the panel um I don't know if I still have her contact information I

02:47:07.080 could probably find it but I mean I think she's long gone by now so uh yeah that's probably not

02:47:14.720 ever gonna happen but okay thank you for the uh I could try I could ask give you the backstory of

02:47:21.720 the that situation so uh let's see smiling cookie with the Australian $10 wow it's quite a diverse

02:47:30.700 regional donation from these recent people okay uh thank you man for the Australian $10 bring back

02:47:37.660 60 cal and the other black guy bros made last stream hell funny and interesting too many basic

02:47:42.640 okay okay on today chits today chits hurts today chit what is chits hurting hurting my eyes okay

02:47:52.560 that's true all right Frankie yo what's Frank good to see you back man uh hey Brian big big Frank

02:48:03.580 hey Brian Frank here big Frank I had some trouble but I just DM'd your IG sent a video for the girls to

02:48:10.300 react to uh I will check the Instagram and um take a look and uh I will see if it's a good we can't do

02:48:19.600 it tonight I'll we have to we preload all the videos that we react to but thank you man I'll check my DMs

02:48:25.780 after the show thank you for the support man much appreciated good to see you back okay so

02:48:30.540 I want to make sure everyone has an opportunity to go around on the initial question I have and then I

02:48:37.260 have one last question and then we're going to wrap up so something dating related you want to get off

02:48:43.520 your chest you could ask for advice on something whatever it may be okay I'll ask for advice so

02:48:51.960 I'll give a situation that I've been put into recently um I had a friend group who um one of them

02:49:00.880 invited a guy from her high school that she used to be friends with to come to UCSB and like hang out

02:49:07.520 with all of us him and I ended up hooking up and my friend now ex-friend is mad that I hooked up with

02:49:18.000 him because she was interested in him um I like and so I like chased the guy I feel like a little bit

02:49:29.120 and now I'm like I don't know if I continue to pursue that or do I try and reconcile with my friend

02:49:37.280 did you know she was interested in him it's a weird situation because she had mentioned like

02:49:43.820 oh like I don't really know if I would ever be into him or not because like we've been friends for a long

02:49:48.940 time yeah um and then by the end of the night it was like just very clear like he was not interested

02:49:55.580 in her yeah I don't know I feel like the friendship is probably more important but yeah it has to be

02:50:01.480 what you prioritize was the friendship long no we met here so it's been like a month were you guys

02:50:08.360 close like really close I mean as close as you can get we were like in a friend group we're all like

02:50:13.000 equally close okay is she treating you poorly like after like obviously yeah like is she being what

02:50:20.080 is oh yeah what is she doing well she cut me off completely like well we had a conversation I asked

02:50:24.540 to talk in person about it because I was like obviously I feel horrible but you know she like

02:50:30.160 felt hurt by me for doing that yeah um also magic with this guy and I like we didn't have sex we did

02:50:35.860 not fuck at all it was literally just like easy like I don't even know like make out that's kind of it

02:50:42.340 but wait so just to recap the situation yeah you had a girlfriend she was interested in a guy

02:50:48.640 yeah the guy wasn't interested in her you hooked up with the guy yeah hook you didn't yeah like we

02:50:54.380 didn't yeah you made out of it made out like he slept over and she found out yeah and she's upset

02:51:00.540 she's very upset yeah but she knew she knew you knew that the guy didn't like her but did she know

02:51:05.740 that the guy didn't like her uh I don't know like I mean like they had their friends so it's like a

02:51:14.360 weird situation well I think it's about what relationship you prioritize more yeah what is

02:51:19.740 more important to you your friendship with her or what you had with the guy and honestly all you can

02:51:24.200 do with her is if she didn't communicate to you fully that she was into him just all you can do

02:51:29.940 is apologize and say like you never told me so I didn't know continue to treat you kind of shitty

02:51:35.620 then it's not worth it that's that's what I've been thinking this is this is what I think you

02:51:40.060 should do yeah does he go does he go to school here no he goes to a different school oh so this

02:51:44.980 was before he came here to visit oh lat like not last weekend but the weekend before and then my

02:51:52.140 friends and I like had basically had a whole flying out because they're all roommates um I'm the only

02:51:56.340 one who's not in the room so they're all still friends because they obviously had to take her side

02:52:01.380 because they live with her um rip they didn't have to but yeah it's a weird situation I like don't

02:52:08.040 know I think she's overreacting a little bit I think so too and I think going back to communication

02:52:14.560 I think it's it that's something that you can communicate with her and just be like hey I'm

02:52:20.280 sorry that I made you feel like that but you didn't make it clear to me that you know it was going to

02:52:26.000 upset you and and our friendship is something that you know like I said like they said like

02:52:31.540 whichever one that you want to mend more but if she does continue to treat you like that after

02:52:38.740 communicating then I think that goes to show what kind of person she is yeah I agree so the whole

02:52:44.740 friend group is totally burned yeah it really yeah it really sucks because these are like my closest

02:52:49.920 friends like at UCSB but is it your first year yeah you know what yeah you're gonna meet so many

02:52:57.880 more people I came here I'm so sorry I came here and I came with friends from back home and I'm not

02:53:04.800 friends with them anymore yeah and that's totally fine you don't have to be you grow you meet people

02:53:09.980 and people who come into your life and leave serve a purpose and one purpose only and you just learn

02:53:16.480 from that yeah but also I feel like it's just kind of like a stupid immature thing for them to end

02:53:21.860 their friendship with you over especially because you guys haven't talked about it and I would say

02:53:26.500 yeah salvaging friends for the friendships you have with them yeah right now is way more important than

02:53:32.800 continuing to pursue that guy I feel at a different school actually I think you gotta go scorched earth

02:53:41.400 on this friend group you gotta get this guy back to Santa Barbara okay can I explain what happened

02:53:47.320 because I tried to make that happen wait can I I just gotta I just gotta play I gotta play this

02:53:52.180 really quick I will rain down on a godly fucking firestorm upon you you're gonna have to call the

02:53:57.180 fucking United Nations to get a fucking binding resolution to keep me from fucking destroying you

02:54:01.980 I am talking scorched earth motherfucker I will massacre you I will fuck you up

02:54:08.700 that's what you should do I think that's what you should do because can I explain like what

02:54:15.720 happened because I that's what everyone else from home so I like obviously told all my friends from

02:54:20.180 home like this is the situation I basically lost my whole friend group because I like made out with

02:54:23.560 this one guy right wait hold on one question uh-huh you said you didn't like have sex with him no

02:54:28.740 are you sure like no we did we did not have sex there was an offer it was turned down

02:54:39.160 I promise that as you stated before women controlled sex okay yeah so yeah okay it was offered

02:54:51.980 was turned down I like him though I think he was cute I would have had sex with him but there

02:54:59.920 was not the count so all right well okay we I think we'll move on to the next person uh something

02:55:08.580 you want to get off your chest dating related the only thing I have to say is I want a man who was

02:55:13.940 not afraid of commitment I am so tired of it so you're just what what are you tired of

02:55:20.320 um just backing out because they're afraid that they like me you think that's what it is they

02:55:30.080 like you too much and so they're afraid to I'm not saying that they necessarily like me too much I'm

02:55:34.500 saying that they like are like shit like this could go somewhere like that's scary I have commitment

02:55:42.480 issues and I'm not secure with myself so I'm gonna just lie and ditch her

02:55:47.420 so you wish guys were more commitment minded yeah or I could I just kind of wish that like

02:55:57.460 they would understand what they won't be able to commit to when going into something first and

02:56:03.920 instead of kind of like leading you on too much so you're tired of the hookup culture no it's not

02:56:09.780 even the hookup culture it's like when you go into something more than hookups you're going on

02:56:13.440 dates you're meeting each other's parents going to games going to multiple proms all of that shit

02:56:19.380 and then all of a sudden it's just you know so are you talking more situationships kind of yeah I mean

02:56:27.080 it's like more than a situation even when you're in a relationship you know and then they just like

02:56:30.700 all of a sudden they're like never mind I feel like the main reason why that happens is because

02:56:37.860 they're really scared to open up about their like emotions that have to do with like toxic masculinity

02:56:43.620 or like their wait what toxic masculinity don't act like you don't know what that is

02:56:48.120 toxic masculinity you don't know what that is I don't think I don't think there's such a thing

02:56:52.480 oh lord oh I he wants well let me it's too late let me get into this let me no we can get into it let

02:57:00.820 me qualify my statement a bit here so I don't believe in adding toxic before the term masculinity

02:57:09.080 or before the term femininity there are just toxic people I don't believe I don't I don't subscribe to

02:57:16.880 this idea of toxic masculinity there are toxic men there are toxic women there are toxic people

02:57:22.020 you do you disagree I do because toxic masculinity is a term for the toxic men that utilize it is

02:57:32.520 there toxic femininity is that the thing probably but I would I wouldn't know what it constitutes like

02:57:37.700 I can't think of it off the top of my head but toxic masculinity and like this example is when

02:57:42.700 they're taught to like stray away from their emotions like not express them keep it to yourself

02:57:48.240 like you're a man don't be a pussy like hold it in like don't cry that's what I mean and I feel like

02:57:53.660 that's when we see it honestly I think it's a root of like a lot of problems and including that because

02:57:59.640 they just don't know how to express their feelings and a lot of stuff builds up and then they get scared

02:58:06.820 like oh she might actually be a good girl she might really heal me but wait like no I'm like not ready

02:58:11.680 for that and I think that and I think that is generational like from the very beginning of

02:58:18.860 time men were the warriors the knights you know the people fighting and men or women were the gatherers

02:58:26.420 gathers birth givers you know all that stuff and and that really carries on because ideals and you know

02:58:36.840 like yeah like ideals are passed down like so your parents obviously who raise you are going to

02:58:45.060 put their ideas on you and then it just it's like that effect but okay so I'm gonna ask the table

02:58:54.760 so do you guys believe in toxic masculinity just show of hands Eric if you want to just put it

02:59:00.820 okay do you guys on the fence because of what you said okay so if you believe in toxic masculinity

02:59:08.900 then do you believe in toxic femininity yes let's show of hands again I mean I at least you guys are

02:59:17.180 consistent but I just reject this idea of saying of putting toxic before a term in the same way that

02:59:22.820 it would be like it might be sexist to say toxic masculinity or toxic femininity it would be like

02:59:28.160 jeez I don't want to get canceled it would be pretty problematic to say like toxic

02:59:35.180 it would be pretty bad to say toxic for example toxic whiteness or toxic blackness or toxic Jewishness

02:59:50.240 do you see what I'm what I'm getting at so I don't know the idea that maleness itself needs to be

02:59:56.580 pathologized and fixed it's just like it it seems a bit sexist I think I think the whole idea of men

03:00:06.340 just kind of you know be strong don't cry don't express your emotions you're gonna look soft that's

03:00:12.140 toxic you think that's toxic I think that's desirable men should be strong but at the same

03:00:17.540 time it's it's like you're not allowed to yeah your feelings are invalidated you're not allowed

03:00:23.060 to feel those things because you're a man no yeah I mean I agree with you there people don't care about

03:00:28.420 how men feel yeah and I think and and women just like that women in the video that we reacted to when

03:00:34.800 men some of you might disagree when men are honest if they're open with their feelings if they display

03:00:40.680 emotion women lose attraction for men like that not that's not all not all women I'm not I'm not

03:00:47.020 saying all women but we had a woman on the Joe Rogan podcast just admit if she if her boyfriend got

03:00:52.680 knocked out in a fight she would lose attraction for him so men men are not open with their emotions

03:01:00.680 by the way men and women the way we display our emotions is different yeah so I mean I feel like

03:01:12.360 it people should not like whether it's men or women should not be taught to not be emotional

03:01:17.300 because like what about but stoicism I think stoicism is a desirable trait I would rather both men and

03:01:26.160 women I would rather be shown how people feel because like for example with my ex he never told

03:01:31.380 me what was wrong never communicated with me so I spent 95% of that relationship thinking he was

03:01:36.960 going to break up with me and he was mad at me when he was having his own personal issues and just

03:01:41.580 refusing to communicate and that's the point that I was going to make is you know like men who have

03:01:47.440 been invalidated like their feelings have been invalidated it translates to relationships it makes you

03:01:53.960 scared to communicate those things with women because you don't know how you don't you don't

03:01:58.720 want to look too soft you think that girls want you to be macho men who's super strong and you know

03:02:06.000 yeah it's just like stereotypical but in a relationship it doesn't work unless you're both opening up

03:02:12.660 because automatically I felt so much less comfortable opening up because if he can't then why should I

03:02:18.340 open up about what though anything like open up about what like if you're feeling something if you're

03:02:26.580 going through something communicate it like don't just don't just be dry and don't talk and act like

03:02:33.000 you're no longer interested because you don't want to talk about it and it also I'm sorry it's also

03:02:38.580 not so like if you don't want to communicate that that's okay too but it's also as simple as I don't feel

03:02:44.580 comfortable communicating that with you I mean I will say like for most men from our own experiences

03:02:53.380 the times when we are vulnerable in front of women women lose attraction for us we lose the women I can

03:02:59.820 think of molt I can think of a ton of situations where I was steadfast I was stoic and then like I

03:03:07.060 cracked or something not not cracked like I freaked out or something but something happened and I shared

03:03:13.440 that with a girl I was seeing there there's one girl in specific there's been a couple girls this

03:03:17.920 has happened to me too I'm like hey I'm going through this and then the dynamic immediately

03:03:23.240 shifts in the in the relationship she loses respect for me I'm not saying that's I mean maybe you guys

03:03:32.960 are outliers but I think a lot of men's experience when they when they are really vulnerable in front of

03:03:38.200 a woman like would it be a turnoff if on the first date a guy cried in front of you no no come on come

03:03:44.920 on it would be a turnoff I think it would be because that's the first date like we have third date even

03:03:50.920 third date a guy cries in front of you it's probably going to turn you off in some way I've had experiences

03:03:55.520 okay I'll give you guys an experience almost exactly a year ago I was uh I was attacked it wasn't a fight

03:04:02.040 like I was attacked I was jumped in the street I was fucked up my I was all bloodied up everything

03:04:07.000 I'm sorry to hear it was bad it was bad um luckily we caught the guys and well that's for another time

03:04:13.140 but um and I had my girl that I was seeing at the time come over to like help to nurse me and she came

03:04:20.380 over and I was all fucked up like my knee was all bloody I was in pain I was like I was hard to walk

03:04:25.940 and shit um and there was a palpable change in we've been seeing each other for a couple months

03:04:33.560 there was a palpable change in the relationship like it was like before I was attacked and then

03:04:38.580 after I was attacked like it just it changed when she saw me like all fucked up like that it changed

03:04:46.260 the relationship she kind of lost a little bit of respect for me she we we never argued all of a

03:04:52.860 sudden she's bickering about this and that I'm like it just I can't really articulate exactly how

03:05:00.380 it changed but it changed I and then I think within two months the relationship was over

03:05:07.220 I feel like it almost yeah I feel like it can also really go both ways though I had a very like

03:05:14.360 almost similar experience not um something that happened to me but um the guy that I was in a very

03:05:20.200 long-term relationship with like you know again he was very stoic like he never really like shared

03:05:25.560 his emotions to me like at least like deeper emotions that were like things like issues that

03:05:31.400 he had maybe with like his mental health and things like that um one night he gets super drunk opens up

03:05:37.320 to me like about some really like dark like issues and his whole thing is like apologizing to me being

03:05:43.120 like I didn't want this to affect our relationship I don't like I don't like you seeing this side of me

03:05:48.260 and I think honestly a part of that plays into toxic masculinity because it's like he he hadn't

03:05:53.900 even like he opened up to me and instantly he feels embarrassed like just out of like how society feels

03:06:01.720 because obviously I was there I was like trying to comfort him I'm like I'm so glad you opened up

03:06:06.340 to me because now I understand the issues you're going through but in his mind all he kept like walking

03:06:11.320 into the bathroom to like wipe his tears being like I'm fine like you don't don't look at me like this

03:06:16.100 like he wouldn't look at me because in his mind like a man shouldn't be able to show his emotions

03:06:21.860 like that so in your case I can understand like maybe that was a turnoff for her but yeah but it's

03:06:27.720 not for everybody it goes the other way too where and yeah yeah and also I think like now

03:06:32.820 within our generation and the younger generations like mental health is coming more into light and

03:06:39.320 teachings you know I'm not sure if like let's say you in high school got you know the mental health talk

03:06:45.120 or like you had outlets to reach out to it was a little more taboo you would say right correct

03:06:51.740 me if I'm wrong but I think so it sets like that ideals for like that age group and so I think that's

03:07:02.000 what is lost in like people of older ages they're kind of taught like men are strong men don't really

03:07:09.580 show emotions and that's just what they expect and and I think now with our generation and I think

03:07:15.020 as I see more when I talk to my friends even all you guys here like it's okay to show your emotions

03:07:21.240 and and when people like validate that then that's what like where the change comes and I think the

03:07:27.700 dating pool now is we'd rather you communicate and show your emotions that way we can better understand

03:07:33.880 you and there's no disconnect I feel like when there's no communication about like how you feel

03:07:38.540 it kind of turns into resentment and it just builds up and it's not it causes tension because

03:07:45.260 you're going through so much and you can't talk to your significant other about it and if you're

03:07:49.420 dating somebody you have to trust them that should be your person you should trust them more than

03:07:53.960 anything so you should be able to talk to them and if you feel like you can't then that's not a

03:07:58.860 healthy relationship and that's what it was with my ex too it was like he started to resent me

03:08:03.000 because now I know like things that he's too embarrassed yeah like um like share to other

03:08:09.560 people and he couldn't even trust like the person he was closest to because he's just embarrassed well

03:08:15.400 to address your point if a guy is stonewalling you that's that's a different issue if there's like a

03:08:22.020 lack of communication and he's not communicating certain things but opening up his emotions like a guy

03:08:28.080 can communicate with you and still be stoic and still communicate a desire or if there's an issue

03:08:36.060 in the relationship he can still do it but if guys just start sobbing to women about their problems

03:08:42.320 it's just the reason a lot of guys don't do it is because they've had experiences that when they do

03:08:48.080 the women lose attraction for them or the other thing that often happens when what men open up to you

03:08:53.600 you use that shit later on in the relationship yeah to like as some sort of tool in an argument

03:09:00.460 like and I don't think I don't think any of us are saying that like that doesn't happen because

03:09:04.620 it definitely happens there are shitty people there are shitty women there are shitty men people are

03:09:09.900 going to take advantage of you but I think for a lot of people just being able like personally I want

03:09:16.980 my boyfriend to open up to me about his emotions because if he doesn't why am I going to open up to him

03:09:22.140 I don't want to cry to him if he doesn't feel like he can cry to me I don't care about that there it

03:09:27.080 doesn't make me less attracted to them because I want to be shown how he feels if anything it makes

03:09:32.820 me more attracted to him because he can communicate properly and he feels comfortable sharing with me

03:09:37.460 how he feels personally I've had an experience where a guy I was with at the time has like completely

03:09:43.460 opened up and cried to me about like something going on in his life and honestly it almost probably made me

03:09:50.400 like him more just the fact that he could share that with me and doesn't share it with other

03:09:53.640 people even his like close guy friends it was like it was a really big thing to me and it still is this

03:09:59.180 day even though we're not nearly like that anymore you know it's just like it's something that it's

03:10:04.000 like it's like a it's not even like a secret but it's like a moment we shared yeah it's intimate

03:10:08.340 oh okay I had I wanted to come in here on something I mean

03:10:18.900 that's great that's great if it made you more attracted to him um there's definitely women that

03:10:27.260 that's the case but it's like a toss-up like before we open up we don't know if like this is just going

03:10:33.780 to be the the beginning of the end of the relationship or if she's going to genuinely

03:10:38.580 be there I mean my advice to men is if you have a problem in your life go tell your male friends

03:10:44.600 talk to your male friends don't bring it to your girl like just because you gotta be stoic like

03:10:50.660 that's how it is so you don't have to be yeah there's still be a strong like again it's just you're

03:10:56.460 reinforcing like that stereotype that man yeah I'm reinforcing toxic masculinity you can still be a

03:11:01.900 strong man and show emotion exactly no and you're saying like oh go to your male friends about it

03:11:07.000 like if anything I feel like trust your girlfriend enough to share your emotions with her if anything

03:11:12.260 I feel like she's the most important to you as well like keeping with what like traditional gender roles

03:11:17.040 anyway if your woman is the most important thing in your life you should be able to go with to her

03:11:21.740 with your emotions it's it's certainly ideal sure it's ideal but like as a guy you are kind of rolling

03:11:29.940 the dice because for some women and even some women who say things that you guys say at this table

03:11:34.520 you might be able to verbalize that but deep down you could still like you're saying you could say the

03:11:42.300 politically correct thing oh baby it's okay I want you to open up but when he does something deep down

03:11:48.280 I'm not saying all women but something deep down might still be like you might be put off by it

03:11:52.760 and so also another thing is men often don't share their feelings because they end up just upsetting

03:11:59.660 their girlfriend and then they're left to console their girlfriend on her feelings because of how his

03:12:08.480 feelings made her feel yeah honestly try to wrap your mind around that one I feel like if that happens

03:12:13.260 then you're just better off without them anyways and eventually some problem was gonna come up and it

03:12:17.940 wasn't gonna work out because if you are the type of man that wants to communicate with your girl the

03:12:23.100 way that you feel and she can accept that then she doesn't deserve you and you shouldn't be with her

03:12:27.500 I agree word um was that was your question was it or whose question was that I was the last one to go

03:12:35.600 yeah okay so you're talking about the toxic who's talking about toxic masculine you brought that up okay

03:12:41.260 so you were riffing off of her thing okay um can can I challenge you guys to potentially change

03:12:49.440 your thought process on this would you consider instead of using the term toxic masculinity would

03:12:55.340 you consider just using the term toxic toxicity or toxicity yeah in lieu of I don't know I just feel

03:13:05.220 like it's pointlessly gendering something but yeah yeah because if we're gonna say that there's toxic

03:13:12.260 masculinity and toxic femininity then might as well just umbrella and say yeah it doesn't need to be

03:13:19.220 treated as two separate things yeah yeah or someone is being toxic yeah whether they're male and that's

03:13:24.780 why I wanted to say that um I didn't shoot my hand up because what you said was actually really

03:13:29.920 impactful and I I I liked what you said there because thank you if you think that there are toxic

03:13:35.880 men you have to also believe that there are toxic women it's because there are it's not it's there's

03:13:42.300 no one gender that's gonna be better than the other so if it's if there's gonna be toxic toxicness

03:13:50.280 in both in all genders all genders um then just don't even stare don't even separate it exactly

03:14:01.440 separate it yes sure um so something you want to get off your chest dating related I honestly don't

03:14:07.580 really have anything like I can't totally fine we can come back to you if you want um something dating

03:14:13.640 related you want to get off your chest I wish men were clear about their intentions and what they want

03:14:18.080 from the beginning because then like you said they're scared of commitment men will say they

03:14:21.660 want a relationship then when it comes down to it they're not ready for one men will say they just

03:14:25.520 want to hook up then they catch feelings for you then you find out they're not ready for a relationship

03:14:29.460 it's like they need to just be clear from the beginning I'm ready for a relationship or I'm not

03:14:34.140 ready for a relationship and I think it's okay if those opinions change but then again back to

03:14:39.320 communication you have to communicate that and if yeah that's where you don't meet then that's where you

03:14:43.640 don't meet and then it's find someone who you meet with yeah yeah communication party fell the Mike

03:14:50.520 Davis paint painting photo just capsized my bad wait so okay you said you want guys to be up front

03:14:58.380 yes very up can I ask the whole table would you prefer it if guys were just more up front

03:15:02.920 with what they want yes yes whole table yes you want guys to be more up front with what they want

03:15:11.260 yes yes okay a guy walks up to you and he says hey listen um do you want to have sex right now

03:15:18.580 what's your answer if I hold on let's start over here we'll start over here what's your answer

03:15:24.220 guy walks up I mean not right then but if he makes it clear that I'm not looking for a relationship

03:15:31.080 I'm just looking for a hookup that's different then I also have a question in context to what you're

03:15:37.700 saying is this a random guy walking up to us yeah or is this somebody what's the what's the

03:15:43.520 backstory of this guy at a party maybe at a bar do we know them you don't know him just a random dude

03:15:51.400 okay just okay so just a random dude new guy then no but if a guy comes to me and he's like

03:15:57.380 hey like let me get your snap but like I'm not looking for a relationship I'm just looking for

03:16:02.380 something casual that's being up front about it yeah I want a guy to be up front and I don't want

03:16:07.340 a guy to say he wants a relationship if he's not going to be in a relationship if he's scared of

03:16:11.320 commitment the guy says I want a girlfriend and then it comes down to it and he's not boyfriend

03:16:15.800 material then that's he should have been clear that he's not ready okay so I want to go around the

03:16:20.920 table on this though so guy walks up to you and he just says hey do you want to fuck maybe

03:16:27.820 maybe more tactfully like in a polite way he's like hey what's up just thought you're attractive

03:16:32.880 listen I'm not really looking for anything do you want to go hook up right now what's your answer

03:16:37.520 no I'm sorry say that again but it's not like situational it's personal if that makes sense like

03:16:46.040 I would be like no right now like I don't know him oh so you let us know a guy just straight up

03:16:50.500 walks up he's polite he's not rude or anything he's not like what's up baby you want to like

03:16:55.140 it's polite but he's being super direct super up front kind of like I how she's saying bouncing

03:17:01.700 off what Nicole said I would say no right then and there because I don't know if you're safe you

03:17:06.660 know what you should sorry go ahead but if you're like hey like she said let me get your snap let's

03:17:12.440 hook up tomorrow the next day the other day I'll be like okay that's what I'm looking for or the okay

03:17:16.960 that's not what I'm looking for yeah and personally I have been direct I have been like the ball's in

03:17:21.820 your court what are you gonna do and I've been turned down and that's fine that's fine wait you've

03:17:28.440 been how are you direct you said the ball's in your court I was like this is I'm just looking to hook

03:17:33.200 up the ball's in your court that is your decision and he said I'm sorry like I'm he passed it up

03:17:39.280 yeah oh shit he's like I'm hooking up with another girl did you want him more we've made we made out a

03:17:45.760 couple times and like had interest in each other so like it was more like lust like attracted to

03:17:51.880 each other like mostly but but when he turned you down for sex did you want him more no okay no okay

03:17:59.460 so okay let's you know what let's play a video of this exact scenario happening Eric can you go ahead

03:18:08.760 and pull up the video and guys we'll wrap up here in probably about 10-15 minutes uh all the way at

03:18:15.580 the bottom Eric it should be the Brian no uh they're Brian asking yeah and then I guess we could do the

03:18:22.400 girl version after go ahead

03:18:23.360 did you speak English

03:18:27.060 uh I just thought you were really cute and I want to know if you wanted to have sex

03:18:33.260 no okay I just thought you're cute and I want to know if you wanted to have sex

03:18:41.000 no no I thought you're really cute and I want to know if you want to have sex with me

03:18:47.720 and I want to know if you want to have sex

03:18:51.420 did you guys speak English at all are you where you're from Australia oh Australia cool you guys

03:18:58.400 were really cute okay and I want to know if you guys want to have sex

03:19:04.140 do you want to have sex

03:19:06.140 no

03:19:07.140 no

03:19:07.640 no

03:19:08.140 do you want to have sex with me

03:19:10.140 do you want to have sex with me

03:19:11.140 yeah

03:19:11.640 I just thought you're cute and I just want to know if you wanted to have sex

03:19:15.640 I just kind of find my friend no thank you

03:19:17.540 no thank you

03:19:18.260 all right night

03:19:19.220 sex with me

03:19:19.940 are you stupid or are you

03:19:22.380 I'm a little stupid

03:19:23.300 well you want to lie on the ground or not

03:19:25.380 right now

03:19:26.140 yes

03:19:26.780 what do you mean lie on the ground

03:19:28.140 then we're gonna slap you very hard

03:19:30.660 yes

03:19:31.180 when I'm on the ground or before

03:19:33.340 that's not what you're gonna ask a lady

03:19:35.300 no

03:19:35.900 oh

03:19:36.560 I'm not I'm not from around here so I don't know the custom

03:19:39.840 anyways um so that was me in Europe a couple years ago

03:19:44.320 being up front

03:19:46.220 and I that was

03:19:49.160 I got one yes

03:19:51.840 I got one yes out of 200

03:19:54.000 I think it's the way you phrase it

03:19:56.440 yeah

03:19:56.880 it's the way you phrase it

03:19:58.240 my phrasing

03:19:58.900 I think if you're like

03:20:00.480 hey

03:20:01.080 I'm new to the country

03:20:02.660 I'm just looking to hook up

03:20:04.100 are you single

03:20:05.500 do you want to do that

03:20:06.300 you'd probably get more of like a

03:20:08.140 yeah

03:20:08.520 let's get to know each other

03:20:10.640 I feel like that comes off as kind of creepy

03:20:13.000 yeah

03:20:13.880 I'd be uncomfortable

03:20:15.800 especially like I mean at least since you were in like another country as well

03:20:19.760 yeah

03:20:20.100 like the two girls who like walked away as soon as you said

03:20:22.400 no but like being up front is different than that

03:20:24.400 being up front is like what you said

03:20:25.820 like

03:20:26.100 that's up front

03:20:26.860 like I mean that just could be considered up front

03:20:29.040 that's a way of being up front

03:20:32.860 it's up front but it's almost like it's creepy

03:20:35.520 rapey

03:20:36.060 yeah

03:20:36.360 because you don't

03:20:38.600 you don't have a connection established yet

03:20:41.200 I feel like if a connection was established like

03:20:43.460 both people kind of have a feeling that there's something there

03:20:46.180 and that's when you can be like

03:20:47.100 it doesn't have to be a large connection either

03:20:49.700 just maybe not a stranger

03:20:51.220 maybe not somebody in a foreign country

03:20:53.900 no matter what

03:20:58.120 no one's just

03:20:58.680 you're not just gonna like start having sex

03:21:00.540 okay so

03:21:01.020 yeah hookup is always

03:21:02.140 there's always something

03:21:02.940 so I will address your thing

03:21:04.620 yes like it is quite

03:21:07.360 you know perhaps the phrasing could have been a bit more

03:21:11.880 less sterile

03:21:15.060 it could have been how you said it like

03:21:16.920 hey what's up

03:21:18.780 however you said it

03:21:20.420 I forgot how you phrased it

03:21:21.260 but that is being up front

03:21:25.240 and in fact we have a woman who did the exact same thing

03:21:28.200 we wanted to see

03:21:29.340 how it would work if a woman did it

03:21:32.640 so airplay

03:21:33.220 the Andrea asking

03:21:36.180 would you have sex with me?

03:21:44.080 oh my god

03:21:45.780 yes?

03:21:49.680 no?

03:21:51.260 pretty please

03:21:52.380 you can just kind of lay there

03:21:55.080 and I'll just do my thing

03:21:56.520 why not?

03:21:58.920 okay let's go

03:21:59.960 I just want to ask you guys

03:22:03.240 if you would be down to have sex with me

03:22:05.220 I will definitely have sex with you

03:22:07.620 like right

03:22:08.080 like literally right now

03:22:08.980 where do you want to go?

03:22:09.520 I'm not joking

03:22:09.780 your house is like right over there

03:22:11.160 right now?

03:22:12.480 right now?

03:22:12.680 are you down?

03:22:13.360 yeah why not?

03:22:14.080 let me know if this is too forward

03:22:15.340 if you would have sex with me

03:22:16.960 if I would have sex

03:22:17.920 hold on

03:22:19.300 mom can I call you back?

03:22:20.520 maybe you'd want to have sex with me

03:22:23.420 yes

03:22:25.180 yeah

03:22:25.640 like right now

03:22:27.080 like literally my house is like right over there

03:22:28.840 sure

03:22:29.620 you want to have sex with me?

03:22:31.260 are you out of your mind?

03:22:33.440 maybe a little bit

03:22:34.220 you're a dragon?

03:22:35.180 in kind of the best way

03:22:35.840 oh no I'm clearly sober

03:22:37.180 you out of your mind?

03:22:41.100 in the best kind of way

03:22:42.260 come to my house you want

03:22:43.080 okay

03:22:43.880 do you want to have sex with me?

03:22:47.980 are you serious?

03:22:48.860 what?

03:22:49.280 yes

03:22:49.580 I'm serious

03:22:50.640 like my house is like right there

03:22:52.680 alright I'm down

03:22:56.220 okay let's do it

03:22:57.380 do you want to have sex with me?

03:22:59.320 yeah

03:22:59.620 and my house is like right over there

03:23:01.240 I don't know if this is serious

03:23:05.120 would you like to hang out with us first?

03:23:07.560 um not really

03:23:08.480 really quick like 15 minutes

03:23:11.100 that's totally fine with me

03:23:12.180 okay

03:23:12.420 alright ready to go?

03:23:13.800 yeah let's go

03:23:14.400 okay

03:23:14.660 I better not be getting robbed right now

03:23:16.400 okay

03:23:19.820 so that's the girl version of the video that I just did

03:23:22.860 it's still creepy

03:23:24.380 it's so creepy

03:23:25.160 it's definitely

03:23:25.980 I think it's so funny

03:23:27.240 it's not creepy

03:23:27.940 yes it is

03:23:29.280 it's creepy

03:23:30.520 it's not creepy

03:23:32.480 it's creepy

03:23:33.680 if a girl

03:23:35.540 if a girl went up to you and asked you that

03:23:37.220 what are the first thoughts in your head?

03:23:39.500 prank video

03:23:39.940 you gotta get robbed

03:23:41.400 it's not

03:23:42.000 it's not like

03:23:42.880 my organs harvested probably

03:23:44.960 yeah exactly

03:23:46.180 so you never know

03:23:46.800 but you see how many guys said

03:23:47.600 by the way that I've shot in Isla Vista many years ago

03:23:49.860 um

03:23:50.800 so

03:23:52.160 I don't know why I pulled that up

03:23:56.240 the point is

03:23:57.920 is that when guys are up front

03:24:00.340 obviously that's a very

03:24:02.660 kind of exaggerated scenario

03:24:04.540 that's not

03:24:05.360 one

03:24:07.560 no guy

03:24:08.040 most guys

03:24:08.580 I had the benefit of

03:24:10.460 by the way I'm just joking

03:24:12.200 there's cameras right over there

03:24:13.320 it's for a social experiment video

03:24:14.980 I'm kidding

03:24:15.760 um

03:24:16.480 most guys are probably not gonna be

03:24:17.840 confident enough to

03:24:19.360 to do something like that

03:24:21.320 in a real scenario

03:24:22.100 but

03:24:22.920 it

03:24:23.540 it's

03:24:23.940 an exaggerated

03:24:25.840 it

03:24:27.940 it

03:24:28.200 paints the picture that

03:24:29.940 when guys are

03:24:30.760 so up

03:24:31.620 actually up front

03:24:33.340 brutally up front

03:24:34.500 women

03:24:35.560 don't respond to it

03:24:36.800 so men have to play the game

03:24:38.460 because if we are up front

03:24:40.940 then you're just gonna be like

03:24:42.000 nah

03:24:42.440 next

03:24:43.540 but don't play the game

03:24:44.900 where you're giving false hope

03:24:46.300 and giving the idea

03:24:47.460 that you might want to be

03:24:48.700 in a relationship

03:24:49.400 if you know you're not

03:24:50.520 yeah I don't think the game

03:24:51.520 has to go so far to that

03:24:52.700 yeah

03:24:52.940 and nobody said to be like

03:24:54.500 painfully up front

03:24:55.820 like

03:24:56.440 that's just

03:24:57.520 well you're not

03:24:58.040 painfully up front with anything

03:24:59.100 but it's kind of convenient

03:25:00.700 like

03:25:01.140 oh

03:25:01.700 we want you to be up front

03:25:03.160 but

03:25:03.540 to our precise

03:25:05.100 standards

03:25:05.980 like

03:25:06.400 I don't think anybody's even asking

03:25:07.720 for precise standards

03:25:08.720 nobody just wants to be asked

03:25:10.420 will you have sex with me

03:25:11.580 like that's creepy

03:25:12.360 well just

03:25:13.060 it's not really creepy

03:25:14.040 it's not creepy

03:25:15.220 I mean can you imagine

03:25:16.260 like a random guy

03:25:17.180 coming up to you

03:25:18.220 on the street

03:25:18.700 being like

03:25:19.120 yeah let's have sex

03:25:20.220 like right now

03:25:21.160 I feel like that video

03:25:22.160 isn't a good example

03:25:23.480 of the message

03:25:24.180 you're trying

03:25:24.900 to send out here

03:25:26.620 because us women

03:25:28.080 we have to like

03:25:28.840 worry a lot about getting

03:25:29.940 sex traffic

03:25:31.240 like raped

03:25:32.080 like kidnapped

03:25:32.740 and I'm not saying

03:25:33.560 it doesn't happen to men

03:25:34.580 but it happens way less frequently

03:25:36.760 so if some guy came up to me

03:25:38.360 on the street

03:25:39.660 and they asked me that

03:25:40.400 and they're older than me

03:25:41.280 I don't know them

03:25:42.880 I don't know anything about them

03:25:44.300 I don't have anything

03:25:45.100 anyone mutual with them

03:25:46.560 my

03:25:47.180 probably my first thought would be

03:25:48.840 he's fucking creepy

03:25:50.520 like

03:25:50.920 that's so creepy

03:25:52.260 to ask someone

03:25:53.680 to run

03:25:54.140 to ask someone to have sex

03:25:55.960 just any

03:25:56.940 like conversation

03:25:58.120 with a stranger

03:25:59.040 as a woman in general

03:26:00.360 is just like

03:26:01.200 no matter what

03:26:01.900 you have to be on defense

03:26:02.960 and that's like

03:26:03.140 what you're taught

03:26:04.160 as a kid

03:26:05.080 it's taught

03:26:05.720 and it's what you have to learn

03:26:07.440 to just be here

03:26:07.940 yeah but come on

03:26:08.480 guys approach you at parties

03:26:10.040 like they'll approach you

03:26:11.360 that's different

03:26:11.580 because

03:26:11.880 they're your age

03:26:12.300 and they don't go up to you

03:26:13.100 and say can we have sex

03:26:14.220 they say hey

03:26:15.220 well and also

03:26:16.600 you're in a huge group of people

03:26:18.380 like in a bar

03:26:20.000 you still have to be on guard

03:26:21.220 like there will be guys

03:26:23.200 who are creepy in bars

03:26:24.340 and will come up to you

03:26:25.340 and ask you for sex

03:26:26.280 or grab your ass

03:26:27.240 and like

03:26:27.620 roofie

03:26:28.040 I mean it's not creepy

03:26:29.380 for a guy to shoot his shot

03:26:30.940 no but that's creepy

03:26:32.340 in the way

03:26:32.940 yeah

03:26:33.620 in the way

03:26:34.240 they shoot your shot

03:26:34.780 like that

03:26:35.220 shooting your shot

03:26:36.040 yeah

03:26:36.340 shooting your shot is

03:26:37.780 like

03:26:37.980 it's a blanket term

03:26:39.900 because

03:26:40.240 like shooting your shot

03:26:41.400 right off the bat

03:26:42.080 when you've never had a conversation

03:26:43.360 I'll just say this

03:26:44.360 it's very convenient

03:26:45.460 that as women

03:26:46.940 since you don't

03:26:47.620 I mean

03:26:48.220 except for you apparently

03:26:49.820 you guys don't have

03:26:51.840 the burden

03:26:53.220 of having to be

03:26:54.160 the ones to initiate

03:26:55.340 why is it a burden

03:26:56.380 just in general

03:26:57.500 it's not

03:26:57.920 like

03:26:59.540 why is it a burden

03:27:00.460 to have to be

03:27:01.740 the one to initiate

03:27:02.920 or

03:27:03.300 oh it's so bad

03:27:04.280 I'm like in a romantic situation

03:27:05.900 if it's so bad

03:27:06.940 why do it

03:27:07.640 like

03:27:07.920 if you don't want to be in it

03:27:09.500 like no

03:27:10.120 that's fine

03:27:10.900 no but I don't think

03:27:11.780 you understand

03:27:12.280 like how hard it is

03:27:13.760 for a lot of men

03:27:14.520 to

03:27:14.940 like approach a girl

03:27:17.160 so don't do it

03:27:18.400 nobody's forcing you to

03:27:20.000 I think it is

03:27:21.340 it is hard

03:27:22.180 hold on

03:27:22.620 hold on

03:27:23.180 let me finish

03:27:23.780 let me finish

03:27:24.200 hold on

03:27:24.660 hold on

03:27:25.260 you're saying

03:27:26.660 okay then just don't do it

03:27:27.840 okay great

03:27:28.560 they'll just never reproduce then

03:27:30.080 because women don't really be hitting on guys like that

03:27:32.840 especially average dudes

03:27:34.420 like women don't hit on average dudes

03:27:36.420 average chicks get hit on all the fucking time

03:27:39.160 so like

03:27:39.980 as a dude

03:27:40.960 even a good looking dude

03:27:42.000 if you don't go up to the girl

03:27:43.260 sorry

03:27:44.180 you're gonna be lonely

03:27:45.000 but I think like

03:27:46.940 there's different ways to approach it

03:27:49.520 with like still making your intentions clear

03:27:51.520 like I said

03:27:52.100 like hey

03:27:52.580 this is my snap

03:27:53.400 I'm not looking for like a serious relationship or anything

03:27:56.440 I just want to be casual

03:27:57.900 that's different than being like

03:27:59.420 hey let's fuck

03:28:00.400 yeah

03:28:01.360 let me just

03:28:01.660 let me clarify something

03:28:02.880 in like a respectful way

03:28:04.080 like yeah

03:28:04.580 you can get turned down

03:28:05.920 it's possible

03:28:06.680 but

03:28:07.060 if you shoot your shot

03:28:08.820 and someone likes you

03:28:09.780 even if you do respectful

03:28:10.820 sometimes it still goes bad

03:28:11.900 let me clarify one thing

03:28:12.900 as far as the video goes

03:28:13.660 let me clarify one thing

03:28:14.920 as far as the video goes

03:28:15.900 that was a social experiment

03:28:17.400 I don't recommend guys

03:28:19.120 that's probably

03:28:20.600 like there's much better

03:28:21.980 there's much better maneuvering

03:28:24.280 in terms of like

03:28:25.180 your first initial interaction

03:28:27.380 with the women

03:28:27.900 that's

03:28:28.680 that video is like

03:28:30.520 a social experiment

03:28:32.040 to see the reaction

03:28:32.960 and to compare the reaction

03:28:34.440 between men

03:28:35.720 and women

03:28:36.620 and you can see

03:28:37.120 quite a stark difference there

03:28:38.480 as demonstrated in the video

03:28:40.000 it's probably like

03:28:41.900 that's probably not gonna get you

03:28:43.080 a lot of women

03:28:43.560 some women

03:28:44.200 might

03:28:45.780 I mean I had one girl

03:28:47.300 say yes

03:28:47.900 she was kind of like

03:28:49.420 appreciated

03:28:50.080 what happened with that?

03:28:51.260 well we were filming a video

03:28:52.440 so of course I told her

03:28:53.360 hey I'm just kidding

03:28:53.980 we're

03:28:54.220 I did not

03:28:54.960 we did not smash

03:28:56.100 we could have

03:28:57.020 but no

03:28:57.540 I told her

03:28:59.040 hey I'm just kidding around

03:29:00.060 like blah blah

03:29:00.600 but

03:29:01.180 it's just convenient

03:29:03.380 like

03:29:03.800 oh guys

03:29:04.760 don't be creepy

03:29:05.540 or go about it

03:29:06.620 in a certain way

03:29:07.260 but like

03:29:07.640 you don't really have the burden

03:29:09.040 of having to figure out

03:29:10.480 how to approach

03:29:12.760 really

03:29:13.740 and even

03:29:14.740 even in situations

03:29:15.840 where you do approach

03:29:17.240 like the

03:29:18.240 the percentage

03:29:19.980 that it's going to go over well

03:29:22.000 is much higher for a woman

03:29:23.540 than it is for a man

03:29:24.300 like

03:29:24.500 all you girls here

03:29:25.620 if you hit on a dude

03:29:26.800 like

03:29:27.320 your success rate

03:29:28.500 is gonna be way higher

03:29:29.700 than like

03:29:30.160 a dude going up to a chick

03:29:31.600 I don't disagree

03:29:33.480 I think it's more of a pressure

03:29:34.500 than a burden

03:29:35.120 pressure

03:29:36.020 than a burden

03:29:36.820 I mean

03:29:39.180 it's kind of

03:29:40.500 are those kind of synonyms

03:29:42.420 in a way

03:29:43.000 because if

03:29:43.900 because if

03:29:45.280 going up to a woman

03:29:46.980 and

03:29:47.380 asking those direct questions

03:29:50.200 is a burden

03:29:50.780 then why burden yourself

03:29:52.200 because

03:29:53.340 if we don't

03:29:54.440 if men don't initiate

03:29:55.780 we will be very lonely

03:29:57.440 clearly there are women

03:29:58.800 who initiate

03:29:59.420 because several of the women

03:30:00.600 here said that they would

03:30:01.600 and we are definitely

03:30:02.720 not the only women

03:30:03.760 that would do that

03:30:04.400 that's fine

03:30:04.840 there are some women

03:30:05.540 who initiate

03:30:06.080 but you guys are outliers

03:30:07.400 you guys are

03:30:08.080 exceptionally rare

03:30:09.420 how do you know that

03:30:12.320 like

03:30:13.140 yeah men do initiate

03:30:14.960 but

03:30:15.520 I mean at least

03:30:16.620 in my experience

03:30:18.000 and some other people

03:30:19.180 here as well

03:30:19.780 I mean

03:30:19.900 you need not look further

03:30:21.780 than the dating apps

03:30:22.800 to prove this

03:30:23.600 like

03:30:24.160 who sends the first message

03:30:25.600 like

03:30:25.840 if y'all match

03:30:26.520 with a dude

03:30:26.940 on a dating app

03:30:27.620 some of you

03:30:28.000 aren't on dating apps

03:30:28.940 most of the guys though

03:30:29.740 that I've matched with

03:30:30.600 on Tinder

03:30:31.060 like won't text me

03:30:32.600 like at all

03:30:33.380 they won't send a message

03:30:34.340 first

03:30:34.580 that happens

03:30:35.120 that definitely happens

03:30:36.720 so it depends

03:30:38.480 on perspective

03:30:39.120 because I understand

03:30:40.000 like from yours

03:30:41.560 you can see it that way

03:30:42.840 but I feel like

03:30:44.380 it goes both ways

03:30:45.180 I don't know

03:30:45.680 I can see how society

03:30:46.820 like

03:30:47.080 tends to go towards

03:30:48.900 like

03:30:49.960 I don't know

03:30:51.780 I feel like

03:30:52.160 from my experience

03:30:52.860 I don't see like

03:30:53.920 men like

03:30:55.300 coming up to me

03:30:56.200 and like asking me

03:30:56.940 to like hang out

03:30:57.680 all the time

03:30:58.140 or whatever

03:30:58.440 like go out on dates

03:30:59.740 like it's not like

03:31:00.460 it's like all the time

03:31:01.640 like I don't have

03:31:02.400 to do any work

03:31:03.200 it's like

03:31:03.680 I do put in effort

03:31:04.640 I have to put in effort

03:31:05.920 or else nothing's

03:31:06.900 gonna happen

03:31:07.200 I'll be lonely too

03:31:07.980 if I didn't put in

03:31:08.600 the effort in

03:31:09.320 it goes both ways

03:31:11.080 okay so like

03:31:11.900 if you go out

03:31:12.800 to a party

03:31:13.280 or something

03:31:13.780 I mean times

03:31:15.500 are changing

03:31:15.980 I think guys

03:31:16.660 are approaching

03:31:17.760 women less

03:31:18.460 because of

03:31:19.160 social media

03:31:19.900 and dating apps

03:31:20.660 because now

03:31:21.280 before

03:31:21.800 let's say

03:31:23.220 before dating apps

03:31:23.980 before social media

03:31:25.140 was a bit more

03:31:26.040 widespread

03:31:26.520 if you wanted

03:31:28.220 to talk to a girl

03:31:29.140 you had to do that

03:31:30.080 in person

03:31:30.700 now like

03:31:31.820 you had to kind of

03:31:33.880 get over your fear

03:31:34.600 of it

03:31:34.900 now like

03:31:35.940 guys can get laid

03:31:36.940 just on dating apps

03:31:38.220 and social media

03:31:38.980 so it has removed

03:31:41.680 a little bit

03:31:42.340 of the necessity

03:31:44.060 for men to

03:31:45.300 approach women

03:31:46.100 in real life

03:31:46.940 but I would still say

03:31:49.060 like

03:31:49.400 a lot of the time

03:31:51.720 like if you go to

03:31:52.260 a party or club

03:31:52.940 or a bar

03:31:53.440 there's probably

03:31:54.360 gonna be guys

03:31:54.920 that are gonna

03:31:55.220 come and talk to you

03:31:56.140 and then also

03:31:57.140 we can talk about

03:31:57.820 like guys sliding

03:31:58.500 into your DMs

03:31:59.200 we can talk about

03:31:59.780 the experience

03:32:00.640 of women

03:32:01.140 on dating apps

03:32:02.480 so

03:32:02.960 I mean I can speak

03:32:04.840 for myself

03:32:05.400 like

03:32:05.760 dating app

03:32:09.080 okay

03:32:09.340 has anyone here

03:32:11.160 been DM'd

03:32:13.120 out of the blue

03:32:13.620 by a guy

03:32:14.060 who it was

03:32:14.680 kind of clear

03:32:15.260 he had a

03:32:15.600 potential romantic

03:32:16.820 interest

03:32:17.700 or one

03:32:18.000 like on Instagram

03:32:19.000 on Instagram

03:32:19.820 yeah slide into

03:32:20.580 your DMs

03:32:21.180 how many DMs

03:32:22.480 just really quick

03:32:23.660 around the table

03:32:24.140 how many times

03:32:24.640 have you been DM'd

03:32:25.300 by like a dude

03:32:26.120 who's probably

03:32:26.960 trying to get at you

03:32:27.760 I haven't really

03:32:29.660 counted

03:32:29.980 like

03:32:31.200 a hundred plus

03:32:32.480 maybe

03:32:32.840 probably

03:32:33.840 a thousand plus

03:32:34.620 okay go ahead

03:32:35.680 I would say

03:32:37.660 I just went public

03:32:38.500 so I would say

03:32:39.600 like probably

03:32:40.480 like ten

03:32:41.540 ten

03:32:42.180 okay

03:32:42.640 I'm so sorry

03:32:44.420 what is the question

03:32:45.240 has any guys

03:32:46.580 like DM'd you

03:32:47.240 on Instagram

03:32:47.760 that are interested

03:32:48.720 in you

03:32:49.100 no

03:32:49.340 okay

03:32:49.680 yeah

03:32:51.600 probably a lot

03:32:52.700 but

03:32:53.000 a lot

03:32:53.520 most of them

03:32:53.860 are like

03:32:54.400 pedophile bots

03:32:56.560 okay

03:32:57.980 but what

03:32:58.700 you'd say

03:32:59.280 like a hundred guys

03:33:00.320 oh I have no idea

03:33:01.680 what about you

03:33:02.220 a hundred plus

03:33:03.300 a hundred plus

03:33:04.060 probably the same

03:33:05.660 hundred plus

03:33:06.640 probably a hundred plus

03:33:08.060 I don't count

03:33:09.080 okay

03:33:09.700 and you guys

03:33:10.860 okay

03:33:11.920 so

03:33:12.700 I'm 33

03:33:13.640 I've been in social media

03:33:16.440 for a while

03:33:16.920 I've got

03:33:17.760 a little degree

03:33:18.820 of clout

03:33:19.400 I've been DM'd

03:33:22.580 two times

03:33:23.320 by girls

03:33:24.180 none of them

03:33:25.220 that live in Santa Barbara

03:33:26.160 one chick in Canada

03:33:27.840 one chick in

03:33:28.740 Chicago

03:33:29.880 never met

03:33:31.360 they're not trying

03:33:32.400 to fly out to me

03:33:33.100 right

03:33:33.280 that's the difference

03:33:34.420 between men and women

03:33:35.260 two

03:33:37.800 two girls

03:33:38.820 y'all

03:33:39.320 y'all are what

03:33:40.080 18 19 and shit

03:33:41.180 31

03:33:41.760 a hundred

03:33:42.160 well okay

03:33:42.680 except for you

03:33:43.260 a hundred plus DM's

03:33:45.260 has a blue check mark

03:33:46.280 ever slid into your DM

03:33:47.380 a guy with a blue check mark

03:33:48.780 yeah

03:33:51.680 rapper

03:33:52.880 musician

03:33:53.540 athlete

03:33:55.140 NFL

03:33:55.940 no

03:33:56.940 what

03:33:57.480 what sport

03:33:58.000 you don't have to say his name

03:33:59.600 I mean if you want to

03:34:00.520 like college sports

03:34:01.680 college sports

03:34:02.460 but he had a blue check mark

03:34:03.560 college basketball

03:34:04.640 and then there was

03:34:05.380 this like random

03:34:06.280 rapper too

03:34:07.820 blue check mark

03:34:08.660 yeah

03:34:09.220 so just those two

03:34:10.280 blue check marks

03:34:11.040 just that's two

03:34:11.760 what about you

03:34:12.200 any blue check marks

03:34:13.420 no okay

03:34:15.400 go ahead

03:34:15.820 no blue check marks ever

03:34:17.500 okay

03:34:17.820 one that I remember

03:34:19.700 was a

03:34:20.620 football player

03:34:22.100 NFL

03:34:22.920 or college

03:34:24.160 I think there was an NFL

03:34:25.240 football player

03:34:25.940 but he mistaked

03:34:27.140 me for someone else

03:34:28.540 I remember that

03:34:30.600 he added me on Snapchat

03:34:31.920 and he was like

03:34:32.760 wait that's the wrong person

03:34:34.140 and he apologized to me

03:34:35.640 sure

03:34:36.900 no I'm not lying

03:34:38.120 no no I don't think

03:34:38.880 you're lying

03:34:39.300 I think he was lying

03:34:40.100 oh

03:34:40.540 oops

03:34:41.700 okay

03:34:42.240 what about you

03:34:42.980 any blue check marks

03:34:43.720 in your DM's

03:34:44.340 no

03:34:44.500 never

03:34:44.700 yeah

03:34:45.580 how many

03:34:46.220 one or two

03:34:48.120 athlete

03:34:49.840 musician

03:34:50.440 athlete

03:34:51.580 NFL

03:34:52.740 I wish

03:34:53.980 college

03:34:54.420 no college

03:34:56.180 college

03:34:56.780 okay

03:34:57.140 what was the other one

03:34:58.660 musician

03:34:59.440 probably I didn't check

03:35:01.180 all right

03:35:01.940 so

03:35:02.220 this sort of illustrates

03:35:03.900 like the differences

03:35:04.580 between men and women

03:35:05.400 like y'all get initiated

03:35:06.740 upon

03:35:07.200 online

03:35:09.280 in person

03:35:10.100 so it is a burden

03:35:12.120 for us men to do that

03:35:13.320 Brian you want to go out

03:35:15.700 do I

03:35:17.060 what

03:35:17.600 are you

03:35:18.760 being facetious

03:35:19.760 or what

03:35:20.360 you want to go get dinner

03:35:22.120 sometime

03:35:22.460 oh this is a first

03:35:24.400 you should say yes

03:35:28.560 you live in LA

03:35:29.240 now I live here

03:35:30.720 in Santa Barbara

03:35:31.360 I thought you lived

03:35:32.140 oh wait

03:35:33.180 okay I was thinking

03:35:34.540 of someone else

03:35:35.180 you're asking me out

03:35:38.380 on a date

03:35:39.160 he doesn't know that

03:35:40.480 are you sure

03:35:44.680 after all the toxic

03:35:45.680 masculinity

03:35:46.320 I've spewed

03:35:47.160 this entire night

03:35:47.880 she's gonna fix you

03:35:48.600 oh no

03:35:50.160 I would like to get

03:35:51.280 to know you as a person

03:35:52.280 you're cute

03:35:52.900 and I've liked you

03:35:53.940 on the show

03:35:54.420 so why not

03:35:55.780 that is

03:35:57.540 we'll talk after the show

03:36:00.140 how about that

03:36:00.680 how about that

03:36:01.740 wow that was

03:36:03.820 you've never been

03:36:05.640 asked out on this show

03:36:06.780 no I've never been

03:36:07.800 asked out on the show

03:36:08.540 really

03:36:08.800 no

03:36:09.240 it's not like a

03:36:10.560 bachelor

03:36:11.520 oh no

03:36:13.700 but you're just

03:36:15.060 you're hamming it up

03:36:16.460 for the stream

03:36:17.160 see me after the show

03:36:17.640 you're hamming it up

03:36:18.680 for the stream

03:36:19.040 yeah we'll figure it out

03:36:20.260 maybe

03:36:20.540 we'll see

03:36:21.460 we'll see

03:36:21.880 but wow

03:36:23.300 put me on the spot

03:36:24.020 there

03:36:24.220 am I blushing

03:36:24.720 I don't know

03:36:25.260 you are

03:36:26.120 but okay

03:36:29.160 so

03:36:29.660 where was I going

03:36:31.960 with all that

03:36:32.520 about how much

03:36:33.820 more men

03:36:35.260 slide in

03:36:36.380 well okay

03:36:37.200 we were talking

03:36:37.640 about how it's

03:36:38.100 like creepy

03:36:38.500 right

03:36:38.720 but it's convenient

03:36:39.540 like for women

03:36:41.400 to be the arbiters

03:36:42.480 of creepiness

03:36:43.100 when like

03:36:43.600 we are the ones

03:36:44.740 that kind of

03:36:45.140 have to figure out

03:36:46.180 how to best

03:36:47.140 approach women

03:36:47.780 when like

03:36:48.220 for most women

03:36:49.260 that's really

03:36:49.920 not a huge concern

03:36:51.720 of like

03:36:52.180 of yours

03:36:52.620 of hmm

03:36:53.460 how

03:36:53.700 what's like

03:36:54.200 the best thing

03:36:54.800 to say

03:36:55.100 and like

03:36:55.360 how do I do it

03:36:56.160 and like

03:36:56.480 one

03:36:57.760 one you don't

03:36:59.060 have to do it

03:36:59.860 like you have

03:37:00.800 options

03:37:01.360 either through

03:37:03.820 DMs

03:37:04.360 through dating apps

03:37:05.100 through

03:37:05.580 just

03:37:06.480 going out

03:37:07.740 and guys

03:37:08.400 are gonna

03:37:08.700 come up to you

03:37:09.580 so

03:37:11.240 and even

03:37:12.800 when you do

03:37:13.660 do it

03:37:14.120 you're going

03:37:14.820 to have

03:37:15.620 a much

03:37:16.000 higher

03:37:16.240 success

03:37:16.560 rate

03:37:16.940 than

03:37:17.880 an average

03:37:20.240 looking girl

03:37:20.800 will have

03:37:21.220 a higher

03:37:21.520 success

03:37:21.860 rate

03:37:22.120 hitting

03:37:22.380 on men

03:37:22.800 than like

03:37:23.520 even a really

03:37:24.400 attractive dude

03:37:25.300 will have

03:37:25.900 hitting on women

03:37:26.600 so

03:37:28.840 it's hard

03:37:30.380 out here

03:37:30.800 for a pimp

03:37:31.500 do you want

03:37:37.640 to

03:37:37.780 we were having

03:37:38.780 a back and forth

03:37:39.260 so if you want

03:37:39.800 come in on this

03:37:40.840 okay

03:37:41.700 we gotta wrap up

03:37:44.260 here pretty soon

03:37:44.820 guys

03:37:45.000 so

03:37:45.260 I think

03:37:46.480 everyone

03:37:46.900 got to

03:37:47.720 okay

03:37:48.060 last thing

03:37:48.540 I want to

03:37:48.860 ask here

03:37:49.240 we sort

03:37:49.840 of touched

03:37:50.260 on it

03:37:50.640 at the

03:37:51.220 beginning

03:37:51.940 of the

03:37:52.280 show

03:37:52.600 not that

03:37:54.620 at some

03:37:55.280 point

03:37:55.540 we were

03:37:55.940 discussing

03:37:56.420 body count

03:37:57.160 right

03:37:57.420 I think

03:37:57.800 was it

03:37:58.600 you that

03:37:58.980 mentioned

03:37:59.340 something

03:37:59.600 about

03:37:59.860 body count

03:38:00.740 I don't

03:38:01.620 think so

03:38:02.360 okay

03:38:03.140 so

03:38:03.580 that was

03:38:04.040 you

03:38:04.400 all right

03:38:07.200 so

03:38:07.720 here's my

03:38:12.780 question

03:38:13.080 right

03:38:13.320 hold on

03:38:14.520 oh shit

03:38:15.340 I lost

03:38:15.720 it

03:38:15.900 hold on

03:38:16.480 sorry

03:38:16.720 one sec

03:38:17.060 guys

03:38:17.280 do you

03:38:19.720 think it's

03:38:20.440 wrong for

03:38:20.840 men to care

03:38:21.300 about a

03:38:21.620 partner's

03:38:22.000 sexual past

03:38:22.660 in other

03:38:23.280 words

03:38:23.540 do you

03:38:24.160 think it's

03:38:24.400 wrong for

03:38:24.720 a man to

03:38:25.260 care about

03:38:25.740 a partner's

03:38:27.200 body count

03:38:27.680 to a certain

03:38:28.860 extent

03:38:29.320 I feel like

03:38:30.900 it depends

03:38:31.440 I think it

03:38:33.340 depends too

03:38:34.100 generally

03:38:35.780 I don't

03:38:36.620 think so

03:38:37.500 can you

03:38:42.240 say the

03:38:42.720 question

03:38:43.040 yeah I

03:38:45.080 got you

03:38:45.880 I got you

03:38:46.360 do you think

03:38:48.120 it's wrong

03:38:48.760 for men to

03:38:49.220 care about

03:38:49.680 a woman's

03:38:50.520 body count

03:38:51.000 I think it

03:38:54.860 depends like

03:38:55.460 they're saying

03:38:56.140 like if she

03:38:58.460 has like 10

03:38:59.200 or something

03:38:59.740 and you're

03:39:00.220 just like okay

03:39:01.100 I don't want

03:39:01.940 anything with

03:39:02.460 you but if

03:39:02.860 it's like I

03:39:04.040 don't know I

03:39:04.360 feel like it

03:39:04.680 also depends on

03:39:05.460 the person

03:39:05.900 that's a really

03:39:06.440 complicated question

03:39:07.480 I feel like

03:39:08.460 it's also one

03:39:09.180 thing if you're

03:39:09.720 being shamed

03:39:10.540 for it

03:39:11.260 yeah

03:39:11.620 rather than

03:39:12.660 communicating that

03:39:14.200 you know I

03:39:14.640 would rather not

03:39:15.500 be with a

03:39:15.920 person over

03:39:17.380 my limit

03:39:19.080 of a body

03:39:19.560 count

03:39:19.760 sure

03:39:20.000 it's not

03:39:20.800 wrong to

03:39:21.360 want to know

03:39:21.900 how many

03:39:22.440 partners

03:39:23.100 somebody you're

03:39:24.420 going to sleep

03:39:24.840 with has been

03:39:25.500 but it's

03:39:26.140 where you're

03:39:26.840 like what

03:39:27.380 your intentions

03:39:27.940 are with

03:39:28.400 asking

03:39:28.840 especially if

03:39:30.520 it's like for

03:39:31.000 safety reasons

03:39:31.900 like that

03:39:34.060 that is

03:39:34.860 totally fine

03:39:35.820 but I feel

03:39:36.700 like there

03:39:36.980 shouldn't really

03:39:37.700 be shame

03:39:38.320 because

03:39:39.020 yeah

03:39:39.720 the man

03:39:40.760 shouldn't shame

03:39:41.260 the woman

03:39:41.620 and the woman

03:39:42.040 shouldn't shame

03:39:42.560 the man

03:39:42.940 either

03:39:43.200 yeah

03:39:43.480 wow I'm

03:39:45.520 kind of surprised

03:39:46.220 by that

03:39:47.180 take

03:39:47.520 okay so

03:39:49.780 should body

03:39:51.840 count matter

03:39:52.500 after a

03:39:56.620 certain point

03:39:57.320 yeah

03:39:57.700 like

03:39:57.960 if my

03:39:59.180 man

03:39:59.600 let's say

03:40:01.080 I really

03:40:01.320 like a guy

03:40:01.880 and then he

03:40:02.300 tells me

03:40:02.760 he has like

03:40:03.440 and say he's

03:40:04.880 my age and

03:40:05.400 he tells me

03:40:05.840 he has like

03:40:06.340 30 40

03:40:08.520 bodies

03:40:09.000 I'm gonna be

03:40:09.560 like so

03:40:10.560 you're like

03:40:10.980 having sex

03:40:12.440 with someone

03:40:12.860 new like

03:40:13.260 every month

03:40:13.840 you know

03:40:14.500 what I mean

03:40:14.860 or something

03:40:15.180 like that

03:40:15.500 I don't know

03:40:15.980 I would just

03:40:16.400 be like

03:40:16.800 I don't know

03:40:18.260 it kind of

03:40:18.580 just depends

03:40:19.040 on like

03:40:19.360 the age

03:40:19.760 of the person

03:40:20.380 too

03:40:20.780 and

03:40:21.280 I don't

03:40:22.840 think it

03:40:23.160 should matter

03:40:23.580 that much

03:40:24.240 you know

03:40:25.100 because I

03:40:25.640 feel like

03:40:26.140 love is

03:40:28.080 different than

03:40:28.740 lust

03:40:29.040 and you

03:40:29.540 can have

03:40:29.900 sex with

03:40:30.340 someone

03:40:30.580 and not

03:40:31.120 care about

03:40:32.480 them

03:40:32.800 you know

03:40:33.540 what I

03:40:33.760 mean

03:40:33.900 kind of

03:40:34.160 like a

03:40:34.440 biological

03:40:34.840 need

03:40:35.380 like they

03:40:35.840 say

03:40:36.180 but if

03:40:37.640 I'm with

03:40:38.680 a guy

03:40:39.040 and maybe

03:40:39.360 he has

03:40:39.580 like a

03:40:40.300 lot of

03:40:40.540 bodies

03:40:40.780 in his

03:40:41.120 past

03:40:41.420 I don't

03:40:41.740 think it

03:40:42.040 would be

03:40:42.300 much of a

03:40:42.760 burden on

03:40:43.160 me

03:40:43.440 as long

03:40:44.280 as he's

03:40:44.580 like treating

03:40:44.940 me right

03:40:45.400 right now

03:40:46.400 sure

03:40:46.960 I think it's

03:40:48.180 very dependent

03:40:50.100 on the person

03:40:50.960 obviously you know

03:40:52.960 if you're with

03:40:54.540 someone that you

03:40:55.100 really like and you

03:40:55.900 can't get past their

03:40:56.680 body count then

03:40:57.620 then that's not the

03:40:59.060 person for you and

03:41:00.140 that's that's okay

03:41:01.800 like you can move on

03:41:02.920 and see if that

03:41:04.980 other person checks

03:41:06.760 your box I don't

03:41:08.300 know I think body

03:41:09.040 count like they said

03:41:11.140 for safety reasons

03:41:12.340 does matter

03:41:13.160 but yeah

03:41:15.120 okay

03:41:15.500 body count doesn't

03:41:17.740 matter to me and

03:41:18.480 if it matters to

03:41:19.920 them I think that

03:41:20.560 should be something

03:41:21.760 that people talk

03:41:23.600 about but you

03:41:26.000 bring up something

03:41:26.560 really good there

03:41:27.260 about safety that

03:41:29.080 you know if you

03:41:29.740 have slept with a

03:41:30.360 lot of people you

03:41:30.900 should make sure

03:41:31.420 you're being checked

03:41:32.180 and make sure that

03:41:33.860 you're not passing

03:41:34.780 on anything to your

03:41:35.660 current partner

03:41:36.300 sure yeah I was

03:41:38.460 gonna say kind of

03:41:39.180 the same thing with

03:41:39.760 the safety

03:41:40.240 that the only real

03:41:42.280 reason that you

03:41:43.300 should care is if

03:41:44.060 it's going to affect

03:41:44.960 your health because

03:41:45.960 obviously if someone

03:41:46.840 slept with a lot of

03:41:47.640 people and they've

03:41:48.920 contracted something

03:41:50.000 from that and they

03:41:50.840 could give that to

03:41:51.420 you obviously there's

03:41:52.420 a big issue there

03:41:54.260 and that's something

03:41:55.420 you either have to

03:41:56.080 work through or

03:41:57.060 avoid for your own

03:41:58.620 personal reasons

03:41:59.500 and other than that

03:42:02.500 again if someone can't

03:42:03.700 accept what your

03:42:04.500 body count is I

03:42:05.420 don't understand why

03:42:06.300 you would want to be

03:42:06.920 with them in the first

03:42:07.620 place they can't

03:42:08.620 accept you for who

03:42:09.300 you are and what

03:42:09.940 you've done

03:42:10.340 I agree body

03:42:12.340 count doesn't

03:42:13.020 necessarily matter

03:42:13.900 that much to me

03:42:14.820 but if it's like

03:42:16.660 overly a lot over

03:42:18.740 my limit like I

03:42:19.760 just want to be

03:42:20.360 safe so it's kind

03:42:22.000 of like the main

03:42:22.580 focus

03:42:23.240 yeah I would agree

03:42:25.320 also I feel like

03:42:26.040 it's more of a

03:42:26.540 personal thing like

03:42:27.460 if you care that's

03:42:28.760 fine just don't be

03:42:30.060 with the person if

03:42:30.940 that's something that

03:42:31.560 bothers you but you

03:42:32.320 can also do that

03:42:33.120 without shaming them

03:42:34.100 like I said but

03:42:35.560 again for safety

03:42:36.180 reasons like you

03:42:36.920 should know

03:42:37.340 I agree definitely

03:42:39.120 for safety reasons

03:42:40.320 I mean it just

03:42:41.060 depends on the

03:42:41.600 person though some

03:42:42.280 people are more

03:42:43.020 comfortable with

03:42:44.080 their partner sleeping

03:42:45.820 with less people in

03:42:46.720 the past or anything

03:42:48.260 like that it just

03:42:48.800 depends on the person

03:42:49.660 honestly and how

03:42:50.940 much you're willing to

03:42:51.720 get past because guys

03:42:52.660 can say like they're

03:42:53.600 fine with it but then

03:42:54.720 then they're not

03:42:56.160 yeah I think it also

03:42:57.780 like comes with age

03:43:01.620 like I was in high

03:43:03.320 school and this girl

03:43:04.520 transfer to my school

03:43:05.660 and she was a

03:43:09.500 sophomore maybe or I

03:43:11.420 was a sophomore she

03:43:11.960 was a junior and she

03:43:13.860 had racked up 30

03:43:15.140 bodies in high school

03:43:16.760 just moving to my

03:43:19.220 high school alone and

03:43:20.280 I that's before you

03:43:21.280 know like moving from

03:43:22.680 where she came from

03:43:23.540 and I think that's I

03:43:26.640 don't I don't have a

03:43:27.500 yikes button and I

03:43:28.620 think I think that's

03:43:29.660 really scary because

03:43:30.540 it's you know I don't

03:43:32.840 know I just that's a

03:43:34.020 lot like your junior

03:43:36.180 high school you're 16

03:43:37.300 yeah well that comes

03:43:40.300 to like a safety thing

03:43:41.280 as well exactly yeah

03:43:42.560 definitely it's like

03:43:43.300 you're 16 years old

03:43:44.460 and you have 30

03:43:45.260 bodies now we should

03:43:46.380 maybe consider why

03:43:47.800 are we doing this

03:43:48.920 yeah wait how many

03:43:49.760 did she have like 30

03:43:52.240 just from moving to

03:43:53.140 my high school

03:43:53.740 multiplied by three

03:43:54.700 and that's the real

03:43:55.280 number word word

03:43:58.740 really quick um does

03:44:01.120 anybody want to share

03:44:03.020 their body count we

03:44:04.820 can go around the

03:44:05.340 table I don't really

03:44:06.500 care I don't really

03:44:07.420 mind sharing oh okay

03:44:08.640 we'll start we'll start

03:44:09.500 with you go ahead my

03:44:10.540 body counts too wait

03:44:11.440 Eric can you Eric it's

03:44:14.240 doing again oh I'll

03:44:15.280 take care I'll switch it

03:44:16.420 over uh-huh okay uh so

03:44:20.140 body count minus three

03:44:21.580 wait good uh yours again

03:44:26.040 yeah sorry minus two

03:44:27.760 minus three I don't want

03:44:30.600 to share because of

03:44:32.260 people I know watching

03:44:33.340 but I will give a range

03:44:34.640 between one and five

03:44:35.740 okay minus two I I

03:44:41.300 don't know you don't

03:44:43.380 know I don't I've been

03:44:44.700 counted right it's not

03:44:46.640 like range um the 10 15

03:44:53.840 okay seven five okay

03:45:00.520 there you have it folks

03:45:01.340 uh so one last super

03:45:03.020 chat by the way um xxdm I

03:45:04.940 gotta call you up are you

03:45:05.780 still in chat all this

03:45:07.000 talking we're seriously

03:45:07.800 not gonna get a fit check

03:45:08.700 come on at whatever you

03:45:09.700 netted like 1700 today

03:45:11.700 after YouTube's cut well I

03:45:13.520 was gonna say 5xdm I

03:45:17.740 don't think I've ever seen

03:45:18.560 you super chat I'm just

03:45:21.060 saying bro if you do a

03:45:22.220 super chat we'll do a

03:45:24.720 fit check how about that

03:45:25.820 we'll do a fit check um

03:45:28.140 and then this is our

03:45:29.340 last super chat I think

03:45:30.100 of the night Green

03:45:31.060 Lantern with the uh nine

03:45:32.660 euros uh nine euros

03:45:35.460 thank you ladies would

03:45:37.860 you date a cross dressing

03:45:39.280 guy okay thumbs up for

03:45:40.620 yes thumbs down for no

03:45:41.800 depends like what yeah

03:45:45.780 what cross dressing like

03:45:47.120 are we talking about he's

03:45:48.020 wearing like a whole dress

03:45:49.060 or like cross dresser I

03:45:52.680 know but like so he's

03:45:54.020 dressing feminine he's

03:45:56.420 wearing some makeup hold

03:45:59.960 on I'm gonna Eric is it

03:46:00.860 still going on no okay um

03:46:03.460 one of you can you guys

03:46:05.560 just carry the conversation

03:46:06.960 for the first 30 seconds

03:46:07.900 while I fix this issue real

03:46:08.900 quick and then we're gonna

03:46:09.500 wrap up I feel like yeah

03:46:11.220 that's on preference yeah I

03:46:14.180 feel like it shouldn't matter

03:46:15.180 like yeah yeah I mean I

03:46:17.860 saw someone commented that

03:46:19.140 girls love Machine Gun

03:46:20.940 Kelly and he cross dresses

03:46:22.080 but I think yeah it's just

03:46:25.300 the persona of Machine Gun

03:46:28.940 Kelly like who he carries

03:46:31.080 himself as a celebrity adds

03:46:32.740 to that yeah there's something

03:46:34.100 girls who are attracted to

03:46:35.120 that personally yeah I love

03:46:37.640 Machine Gun Kelly but not

03:46:39.300 for how he dresses yeah I

03:46:42.100 love I love his style I love

03:46:43.640 that he goes out there and

03:46:44.700 he does what he wants to do

03:46:45.700 and doesn't care what

03:46:46.460 anybody else is gonna say

03:46:47.620 and also he's got fucking

03:46:49.400 Megan Fox as a wife

03:46:50.960 yeah she's a babe yeah

03:46:55.080 for sure gorgeous for sure

03:46:57.660 I feel like the tape the

03:46:58.900 camera got all scuffed up

03:47:00.420 there but okay so um

03:47:02.840 XXDM is not coming in for

03:47:05.700 the fit check but um uh so

03:47:08.380 two last things here before

03:47:09.860 we wrap up I know sorry guys

03:47:12.000 that we've gone a little late

03:47:14.020 um you guys want to watch

03:47:18.780 an Andrew Tate video yes do

03:47:20.920 you want to react to an

03:47:21.700 Andrew Tate video sure for

03:47:23.440 for the little the little

03:47:25.400 cherry on top for the end of

03:47:26.740 the show might as well quick

03:47:28.140 one okay we'll do quickie I'm

03:47:30.120 tired those are the best yeah

03:47:31.980 sorry guys we we ran a bit

03:47:33.240 late here and then we had a

03:47:34.380 bit of a delayed start um and

03:47:37.300 then uh I'm trying to think

03:47:39.320 what was the other thing oh

03:47:40.800 the fit check um I'll leave

03:47:42.980 it up to you guys if you

03:47:43.760 guys want to do if you guys

03:47:44.800 want to do a fit check

03:47:46.300 after the Tate video yeah

03:47:50.020 okay sure all right we'll do

03:47:51.420 a fit check after the Tate

03:47:52.480 video 5x DM you owe me okay

03:47:54.680 um so Eric can you pull the

03:47:57.580 video tab por favor uh go down

03:48:01.120 to Tate yep oh geez uh can

03:48:05.100 you okay we got forehead

03:48:07.780 count body count promiscuity

03:48:09.320 robot uh do we do we oh um

03:48:15.760 lonely men we could do the

03:48:22.700 lonely men one we could do the

03:48:23.820 robot too submissive let's do

03:48:25.600 the too submissive one why not

03:48:27.040 that that one's kind of spicy

03:48:29.380 and also do I worry if I'm too

03:48:31.500 submissive will he not respect

03:48:33.020 me no no no no no get get rid

03:48:35.240 of that get rid of that get rid

03:48:37.340 of that won't respect me crap

03:48:39.560 that's not real is that real

03:48:40.880 you know what so many women

03:48:42.200 say to me you're so Andrew you

03:48:43.560 know what you're so rich but

03:48:45.000 you're smart and you're actually

03:48:45.840 very intelligent and I know you'd

03:48:47.000 get really bored of a like a

03:48:48.240 robot and I'm sitting there

03:48:49.160 thinking bitch I wish to god

03:48:51.120 you were a robot

03:48:51.820 you better shut the fuck up we

03:48:56.180 talking about star signs oh

03:48:57.740 yeah I'm so glad tell me more

03:48:59.160 about by Sagittarius rising

03:49:01.020 idiots I don't give a fuck give

03:49:03.620 me a robot all men want robots

03:49:05.780 that's all we want four wives

03:49:08.040 robots inshallah put the put the

03:49:10.900 put the burk on yep what are you

03:49:12.660 talking about we don't care two

03:49:14.180 coffees that's it it's nice and

03:49:16.940 easy there's no such thing as to

03:49:18.840 submissive there's no such thing

03:49:21.140 I'm never gonna look at a

03:49:22.540 beautiful woman who does

03:49:23.480 everything I say and go you know

03:49:24.940 what you do too much of what I

03:49:26.880 say I want to go get some

03:49:27.700 disagreeable baby okay uh your

03:49:31.780 guys's reaction to that I didn't

03:49:34.420 understand a single word he said I

03:49:36.400 wish he was a robot rotting in a

03:49:38.820 coffin like personally he I just

03:49:41.800 don't agree with anything that a

03:49:44.760 person who's being investigated for

03:49:46.540 human trafficking and rape right now

03:49:48.260 is saying absolutely yeah well that

03:49:51.880 that was uh that was debunked he's

03:49:55.860 still a piece of shit no matter what

03:49:57.260 he literally has said things like

03:49:58.960 his whole thing with how he lives in

03:50:01.580 Romania because the rape laws are

03:50:03.860 lesser there I just like the idea of

03:50:07.080 being able to do what I want to do I

03:50:08.740 like to be able I don't want the

03:50:10.560 police to come out like I like the

03:50:11.960 idea that when I go to the Romanian

03:50:14.440 police and I a girl says oh like he

03:50:16.620 raped me and I can be like no like we

03:50:18.980 just had a bad fight and she's

03:50:20.320 accusing me of rape now and they're

03:50:21.580 just gonna leave me alone

03:50:22.400 in terms to the being submissive

03:50:27.140 though I don't I don't think it's bad

03:50:29.100 to be submissive yeah I don't think

03:50:31.460 it's like just what you like it's what

03:50:34.220 you like yeah yeah but we don't fuck

03:50:38.120 with him not at all would any of you

03:50:40.960 date Andrew Tate no absolutely not he

03:50:44.320 could be a billionaire and I would not

03:50:45.840 date him

03:50:46.400 okay well there you have it ladies and

03:50:51.060 gentlemen last thing last thing here I

03:50:54.140 remember I recalled he mentioned

03:50:56.180 astrology there so it triggered that

03:50:57.840 triggered brought this up to me do you

03:51:00.680 guys believe in astrology yes or no

03:51:02.080 yes

03:51:02.500 hold on we'll just go around the table

03:51:04.360 go ahead do you believe in astrology

03:51:06.220 I don't I don't think it's like life

03:51:09.240 or death with astrology I don't know I

03:51:10.900 kind of use it as like a supplement to

03:51:13.760 like life if that makes sense just to

03:51:15.400 kind of for fun supplement like I don't

03:51:17.300 know that you know like when I'm like

03:51:18.800 meeting people like a little supplement

03:51:20.020 like oh like you're Scorpio like you're

03:51:21.880 probably like this but it's not like a

03:51:24.320 determining factor in relationships like

03:51:27.100 I might say some things if you're

03:51:28.560 something but yeah I don't know it's more

03:51:30.960 to see if like like yeah I would say I

03:51:34.400 would say yes to an extent I'm obviously

03:51:36.100 not gonna be like you're a Taurus we're

03:51:39.800 not compatible you know like you don't I'm a

03:51:42.300 Taurus

03:51:42.640 you never know you never know um you

03:51:47.340 wanted to come in on this because you

03:51:49.380 have a tattoo can you show the camera

03:51:51.140 your tattoo

03:51:51.760 it's just my zodiac sign Taurus yeah to

03:51:56.560 remind yourself no because I think it's

03:51:59.320 very true to me and it's something that

03:52:01.460 just I enjoy and I think it's very mess

03:52:04.800 with the bull you get the horns okay

03:52:06.840 true Taurus gang what's up pound it bam

03:52:10.520 do you believe in astrology I do I find

03:52:15.740 it fascinating I currently listen to a

03:52:19.540 lot of podcasts on it and I love

03:52:21.380 learning about it

03:52:22.280 what about you I think it's fun I think

03:52:26.960 it's fun to look at I wouldn't say I

03:52:28.760 dictate like my life choices based off

03:52:31.040 of it because oftentimes they can be

03:52:32.780 completely wrong other times they seem

03:52:35.740 like they're pretty correct but yeah I

03:52:38.520 think it's just fun to look at so okay

03:52:41.740 I believe in it it's interesting but

03:52:44.000 I'm not that educated on it so yeah I

03:52:47.080 definitely don't know a lot about it

03:52:48.920 like I do know that there are some signs

03:52:50.620 that I tend to like gravitate towards and

03:52:52.740 some that I tend to not gravitate towards

03:52:54.540 but again I don't really like judge

03:52:57.140 people based off of that what's the

03:52:58.620 okay is there one sign that you're like

03:53:02.040 nah or would there be a sign where you're

03:53:04.780 just I don't want to date a guy who's not

03:53:07.060 Scorpio

03:53:07.660 not really because all the Scorpio men I've

03:53:11.920 met in the past have turned out horrible

03:53:14.080 yeah not really but I will say one thing

03:53:16.600 that is really weird is I'm a Libra and

03:53:19.240 I'm like in love with Virgos so like all

03:53:22.560 of my best friends are Virgos and there's

03:53:25.200 like 10 of them and it's really weird

03:53:26.860 because all the people I get along with

03:53:28.120 the best are always Virgos so it's just

03:53:30.340 it could definitely be a coincidence but

03:53:32.500 it's just kind of cool to look at I would

03:53:34.780 say the men Pisces men I don't really get

03:53:40.620 along with too much which is kind of

03:53:42.660 ironic actually because my current

03:53:45.260 boyfriend right now is a Pisces so he's

03:53:47.880 the best Pisces out of all the Pisces

03:53:49.600 that have given me trauma I'm the same

03:53:51.180 way I Pisces are the one and my

03:53:53.560 boyfriend's Pisces so Libra men always

03:53:56.220 come to me I don't ask for them it's

03:53:58.660 just Libra men are just always there I

03:54:01.180 don't ask for them it's just every time

03:54:02.660 I meet a guy and I like him he ends up

03:54:04.120 being a Libra and it's like a curse

03:54:06.200 you see how far the termites have spread

03:54:12.280 and how long and well they've died

03:54:13.860 Eric can you pull up that study on the

03:54:17.240 screen real quick

03:54:18.020 it's it's in the oh wait it's not showing

03:54:28.500 up Eric okay that's fine basically they

03:54:32.500 did a study recently that man I don't

03:54:37.680 want to rain on your guys's parade here

03:54:39.360 basically the study said that people

03:54:41.200 that believe in astrology are just less

03:54:48.100 intelligent I'm sorry we go to Santa

03:54:50.060 Barbara we're smart oh UCSB yeah you

03:54:54.200 didn't get you didn't get into UCLA

03:54:55.940 though I didn't apply for UCLA yeah I

03:55:00.000 also took an astronomy class oh and

03:55:02.880 actually when each when each like when

03:55:09.300 the earth turns each there's like a

03:55:13.360 term for it but if you look in the sky

03:55:15.200 the earth is in like Pisces or it's in

03:55:20.420 the phase yeah Scorpio or it's in if you

03:55:24.160 go to school yeah you would know yeah

03:55:27.240 well Chase I don't know if Chase is

03:55:29.280 still in the chat but he's into some of

03:55:31.020 the astrology stuff okay last thing guys

03:55:32.660 to wrap up the show do you guys want to

03:55:34.900 do the uh the chat's been asking for the

03:55:37.160 fit check so if you guys want to do the

03:55:38.600 fit check

03:55:39.800 okay

03:55:41.100 I guess just show so I guess we'll start

03:55:48.080 on oh we can start on this side okay

03:55:51.460 there's green uh celery is it is that

03:55:57.000 the look

03:55:57.740 the celery okay I think you're is your

03:56:04.840 fly down no oh there's no fly okay okay

03:56:10.960 um okay this one urban cargoes are not urban and

03:56:16.240 then

03:56:16.720 dunks

03:56:17.680 um american apparel amazon and clogs

03:56:25.680 um I thrifted this jacket at cal poly

03:56:30.360 urban outfitters she and brandy melville

03:56:34.280 oops sorry um urban princess paulie and

03:56:42.680 steve madden mine is american eagle

03:56:46.920 brandy and then I can't really see them

03:56:49.240 but yeah I'm sorry um this is princess

03:56:52.040 paulie and these are zara and then

03:56:54.140 chat why do you guys make me do this

03:56:58.900 why do you guys make me do this chat

03:57:00.220 anyways um we're gonna wrap up now just

03:57:04.320 because uh we went really late so big

03:57:08.820 thank you for tuning in tonight guys you

03:57:11.840 could have been doing anything else but

03:57:13.280 you were here with me I appreciate that

03:57:15.720 big thank you to the wonderful panel I

03:57:18.160 thought this was a uh good conversation

03:57:20.300 you guys were great thank you so much

03:57:21.840 thank you guys so much for coming we will

03:57:24.060 be live again Thursday at 7 p.m pacific

03:57:27.200 guys like the video and leave a comment on

03:57:29.340 your way out for the algorithm thanks

03:57:31.440 again to the panel thanks again for

03:57:32.560 watching and we will see you guys next

03:57:34.700 time have a good night guys

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