Dating Talk #43
Episode Stats
Length
4 hours and 57 minutes
Words per Minute
176.1174
Hate Speech Sentences
192
Summary
In this episode of Whatever Happened, we have a special guest, Princess April, join us to talk about labiaplasty and why they're the most pressing issue of our time. We also have a new segment where we introduce ourselves and talk about who we are, what we do, and how we got here.
Transcript
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La donna è mobile, ha il piume al vento, muta d'accento e di pensiero.
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Sempre un'amabile, legge addroviso, impianto in riso e menzognero.
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La donna è mobile, ha il piume al vento, muta d'accento e di pensiero.
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La donna è mobile, ha il piume al vento, muta d'accento e di pensiero.
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I think the first, maybe, yeah, first week of January.
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Sorry, guys, we totally scuffed the intro there.
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Guys, also, please support my nonprofit organization,
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the American Network Against Labia Plasty, or anal for short.
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We empower women who may feel self-conscious or insecure about their labia, if it's large.
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Really, it's the most pressing issue of our time.
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You know, I want to live in a world where women do not feel obliged
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You know, Jason, I think no man or woman, for that matter, should be shamed for the way they were born.
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If you need any convincing to knock under the knife, DM me at whatever on Instagram.
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Can we get some hashtag, all labia matter, in the chat?
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And, guys, if you want to be on the show or help with the show, DM at whatever on Instagram,
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chat mods, timestamp, studio hand, talent coordinator, et cetera.
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Anyways, without further ado, after that thoroughly scuffed introduction, my bad, guys,
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we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.
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So, please, tell us your name, age, occupation, and or school major.
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I am 45 years old, and I have multiple occupations.
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Can you guys play, like, the, can you guys, like, screenplay, like?
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Well, take it as a compliment, then, that I'm questioning that you're 44.
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I'm studying biology right now, and I'm also a full-time OnlyFans creator.
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I am a full-time content creator and Twitch streamer, and that's all I do.
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I am a full-time content creator, but I am also a professional astrologer and Twitch streamer
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I am 34 years old and full-time content creator.
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I used to be a professional public radio reporter, and I'm currently a full-time OnlyFans creator.
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I'm 55, and I'm a full-time OnlyFans content creator.
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I studied computational linguistics when I was in college, and I take pics of my holes for
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a living, but I am also a communal girlfriend on the side.
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Tell them who you are in the chat, though, because they might not know.
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A lot of us started being friends because we bonded over, like, being an old dance creator
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Will you show me your driver's license after the show?
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Okay, so, we're going to go around the table once more.
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Oh, by the way, guys, everyone's Instagrams are in the description.
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They have their links for their other things through their Instagrams.
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So, guys, current relationship status, your longest relationship,
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Current relationship status, longest relationship,
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How long was, were you guys married or together?
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Uh, my friends are my co-stars though, so there's that.
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And my longest relationship was probably for like a month in middle school.
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So the, is there a regular guy that you're working with when it comes to making content?
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Uh, he's actually married, but he's my assistant.
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So the guy that you're having sex with on camera, he is married.
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And he's your assistant, but he's also sleeping with you.
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Um, I got out of a relationship about almost two years ago and that was my longest relationship
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So I, I would say that I'm emotionally unavailable.
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I feel like, cause I grew up with my ex from like 16 years old.
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Up until recent, kind of just staying away from dating and I'm not on any dating apps.
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So if you see any that look like me, that's not me and don't get catfish in 2022, 2023.
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Um, my longest relationship is seven years and I am not on any dating apps.
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Current relationship status, longest relationship and are you on any dating apps?
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I'm single and the longest relationship I've had was seven years and I am not on any dating
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Um, so I'm actually polyamorous and very recently I was in two committed relationships separately
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with two people, um, who are not dating each other and both, um, are lesbians, but I recently
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So currently I'm with one person and I have been with that person on and off for about four
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So, uh, current, your current relationship status, longest relationship, and are you on
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Longest relationship was, I was married for 25 years and or about, um, and then no, I'm
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I really did mean it when I am a communal girlfriend.
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I, my longest relationship, so we, me and my partner, we've been in a relationship for
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And I am on Tinder, but I am not sure if I got banned on there.
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So you said, but you do have, you're in an open relationship, you said?
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I love sharing and he loves like sharing as well.
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What, what can, can any smart chat people tell us what that, what it is?
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Now, was this something that you both kind of mutually ended up on or was it broached
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Um, he actually brought it up to me and I, before I met him, I was for the streets also.
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So when he, yeah, so when he brought up the idea, I was like, oh, I'm going to
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And it's, it's like, as long as you have healthy communication, it works out.
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Well, it goes both ways because it's my first open relationship.
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So it took a while to get used to it, like used to sharing, but, um, that's kind of how
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Like, I think it's kind of attractive that like other girls find my man attractive.
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Uh, tell us about your OnlyFans, um, your current relationship status, longest relationship,
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Um, my longest relationship was three years and I'm, I'm on Bumble, Hinge, Tinder.
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I think I like to meet a person in person and just to view them.
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I feel like texting someone can be so dry sometimes and so hard to communicate properly.
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And I would rather see the emotions on their face to, to get to know them better.
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Not because they're boring, but just because I don't, I just put down my phone and I forget
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And I mean, according to you, you're also currently emotionally unavailable.
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But why did the rest of you get banned on dating apps?
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Is it because you were like putting your cash app, your Venmo, your only fans link in
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You can check my purchase history in the app store.
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I mean, when I was like younger and I went to like, um, when I was younger, like I looked
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at it and like, I see, I made my account, but then I had a friend next to me.
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I went to the restroom and she swiped right on everything.
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And then I, I mean, you girls all have Instagram, right?
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I mean, then y'all got dating apps then technically.
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We also have been banned on Instagram with plus things too.
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I got banned from Tinder for advertising my OnlyFans.
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I primarily use Tinder and FetLife to promote, to promote my OnlyFans.
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And so what specifically did you have in your Tinder?
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Like just like a normal girl, but it was like, I had my OnlyFans in my bio and I had, um,
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it linked to my, like my Instagram that has my OnlyFans link in it.
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Cause I figured like if you, if you're just, cause I see a lot of people on the dating
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But I would swipe right on like everybody, especially like men over 40 and that's, I'm
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For me, like I would go on there and try to get some dick and then my fans will see it
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They, you think you got banned because people thought you were catfishing?
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No, I had fans messaging me being like, bro, someone was catfishing you.
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Oh, so they, so you never put your, any links in your bio on Tinder?
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I just had some people tell me like guys I've dated, but they would like also report me
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I mean, even before I started OF, people were using my photos to catfish.
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And, you know, when I got more popular, people were like, oh, hey, this girl, she must be
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Let me get a couple of super chats and then we'll get into the show.
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Guys, can we also get some Ws in the chat for Candice?
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We have the big $100 super chat from Tay Hates Everything.
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I've been watching for a while, never watched live.
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You know what's crazy is I had booked Kiko and Tara for Tuesday's show, but they both flaked.
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And then I see these two other chats from Dr. Durden and Helen coming in here.
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Give us just a second, guys, while StreamYard picks these up.
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But while we do that, we have, let's see, the American Network Against Labia Place, the hashtag AllLabiaMatter, of course.
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What the fuck are you doing with these OF30FOs?
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Apparently, people tell me I look like this soccer player called Robert Lewandowski.
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So his wife is in the chat questioning why I'm here with you guys.
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Dr. Durden, these girls remind me of my dear Marla Singer.
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You could hear them, like all the girls at the table, saying that they would want to have your, okay, Dr. Durden.
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That's Tyler Durden from the hit 1999, is it 1999 film, Fight Club?
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Yeah, he's reincarnated somehow in the chat somehow.
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Please tell them Halo Coco says, I love you guys.
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Well, we'll run it back and we'll definitely get another show.
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The StreamYard, for some reason, it takes a while to get caught up.
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Rola Tomasi, are you still in the chat, my friend?
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But yeah, by the way, guys, actually, just pull it over to Twitch really quick.
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And if you have an available Prime sub, drop it.
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If you have Amazon Prime, basically, you can link it up to, what's it called?
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We'll shout you guys out if you drop us a follow and drop us a Prime sub.
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I have one of the girls' Twitters pulled up because I had a question.
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So what is, for those who don't know in the chat, what is financial domination?
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And then they pay $69 to even talk to you on Twitter.
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Like, but you just have to participate to know.
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And there are other creators or people in the Findom community that are called goddess, mistresses, and et cetera.
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So the way that I give orders are in bratty ways.
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I've tried, but I feel like I can't be mean enough.
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It's not really mean, but necessarily someone, if there's someone who's looking for a Findom, they want you to take charge, essentially, right?
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With the conversation or with the tasks that they have to do.
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One guy gave me a proposition, was like, I'll let you drain out all of the money in my PayPal account, but can I send you the contact information of my family?
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And like, if I don't listen to you, can you like threaten me that you would like email my boss, my family, my wife, and my kids that you are my financial dom?
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Like, he had like a few thousand dollars in his PayPal, but in the end, I just couldn't do it.
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On my page, not my page, my main website, on the very bottom, it says, buy me boba.
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It's just towards the bobas, so I had a lot of bobas.
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He pays you the 69 upfront fee, and he's like, Princess April.
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They will, they have to give me, what do you call it?
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And then we'll just, like, it's also, like, a two-way street as well.
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Like, whatever is their limit and mine, we'll talk about that.
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So, are you guys, like, talking, like, are you talking, like, video chat?
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Like, how does this, how are you guys communicating all this stuff?
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It's usually, well, I'm, like, a fandom on Twitter.
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Sometimes it can be posted publicly, and it's, like, a public humiliation task because I'm a princess.
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You can just do, like, DMs on, like, Discord or Skype.
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Something about, have you ever done Fyndom, like, with an actual person?
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On my main Twitter, there's a, I think there was a picture of me jumping on somebody with
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It was goddess and me, we were just jumping on a guy's stomach, and he totally enjoyed
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Okay, so then it's, that's even going a bit beyond Fyndom to, like, BDSM territory.
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It can be anything, as long as it's, like, as long as we, like, don't go further than our
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So, you guys are all Asian OnlyFans creators, right?
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Are you guys in a big network, and you kind of share best practices, tips and tricks?
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Like, are there, could, like, a white girl get in there, or is it, like, off limits?
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We're part of groups that, it's not just Asian.
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Like, just an Asian OnlyFans, like, network or group?
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I think initially, yes, but we did add, like, people of other ethnicities.
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Like, we kept going on trips, and we kept introducing.
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It's, like, more, it's, it wasn't meant to be an Asian group, like, um, I, it wasn't meant
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It was just meant to be, like, a safe space where, like, we actually know each other,
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we're friends, so we, like, talk about our day-to-day, like, events.
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But, yeah, well, there's definitely, like, white girls and, like, brown girls in there.
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But I was just curious, like, how big, how big is the group?
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Ours, I think it has, what, 40 girls right now?
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And you guys kind of just, like, share, like, here's what's working, here's what's not,
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I think it's important just because a lot of social media websites are not transparent
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about their algorithm practices and, like, what is going to suppress us and what's not
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going to suppress us, which is, like, very important when it comes to, like, marginalized
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It's also just a great way to stay in touch because social media is so unreliable.
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I mean, at any moment, like, most of us, like, risk getting banned, so.
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Especially with, like, most social media not being very SW-friendly.
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Like, we constantly get banned all the time, so it's nice to have something more concrete
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Do you guys get banned pretty frequently on, like, Instagram, for example, or?
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I feel like, you know, for people who just, you know, kind of enter our field and they're
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What is something, like, because, I mean, some fairly risque stuff seems okay on TikTok,
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Actually, a major reason we get banned is because we get mass reported.
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Yeah, mostly by people that don't like what we're doing.
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It's not, you don't think it's, like, the near nudity type stuff, like, the revealing stuff?
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I accidentally clicked one of the things on my stream deck.
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I'm sure there's more than one reason, but, yes, a major reason is that we get mass reported.
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So many people, like, have, I mean, there's evidence that that happens.
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Like, what makes us, like, the things that we post, yeah, we post a little bit more, like, risque stuff and more, like, in revealing clothing,
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but I feel like you see that a lot on TikTok in general with normal people.
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But since we are, like, sex workers and we, like, we try not to promote our sex work on that platform, but since it's kind of linked to it, then it's an automatic mass report.
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You haven't heard of the news recently about meta employees who have been reporting sex workers and then turning around and charging people to get their accounts back.
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Well, Kitty Lixo, who was on the show a couple weeks ago, she does OnlyFans, too.
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She was saying that one of, I think her Instagram got banned and she hooked up with someone at Facebook and she was able to get it back or whatever.
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The Facebook employees are banning the OnlyFans girls and then being like, yo, I can get you back.
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No, I've heard, like, some girls, um, get, they're asking for, like, $50,000 sometimes.
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These, these fucking engineers at Facebook and Instagram are sus as fuck.
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All right, so, I'll definitely have to check that out.
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The OF, specifically, two years, but I've just been basically posting my holes online
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So, most of you, kind of, during the pandemic, there definitely seemed to have been quite
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a surge once the pandemic started of people getting on OnlyFans.
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Except you, you're the, you're the OG, pretty much.
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Do you guys have management companies running your OF, or it's all you?
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I don't really even know their names, to be honest.
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Have you guys been approached by them, but you just prefer to do it on your own?
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But I think it's very important to have, like, solid interaction.
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So, like, it definitely fluctuates because it's not a very stable.
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Um, I think the holidays usually pick up for me, but it's different for every creator.
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And, um, how long have you been making that much?
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When I was just selling on Reddit, I probably made, like, 800 a month.
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And then, like, when I started my Olaf, it was, like, my first month, 15K.
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And then it gradually grew as I became more and more popular and expanded my brand.
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It honestly fluctuates widely for me, but I would say my best month this past year, I made $50,000.
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But, like, total for the year, you think it's over?
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So, for mine, over six figures, but I don't want to give an exact number, but we'll just say if I, when I had my partner, my ex, he was able to quit his job and just, you know, stay at home and be a stay-at-home boyfriend for me and not work and do anything.
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Okay, so you were making enough money that your boyfriend, my ex, yeah, at the time, could stay home and be a stay-at-home boyfriend.
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He's a great, he was, well, he was a great cook.
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I mean, he was, I don't want, I don't, yeah, let's not talk about it too much.
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Okay, do you think that, I mean, when did you guys break up, remind me?
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It was 2020, like, when I first started my OnlyFans.
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So, you were making enough when you first started to retire your boyfriend at the time, basically.
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Because I was like, okay, you're, so we were living in L.A., and he had to commute, like, from, like, downtown L.A., odd way, to the airport.
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I was like, you know what, you're constantly commuting, and your coworkers are getting a lot of stress, why don't you just stay home?
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You could go back to school if you want to, and just, like, just, I'll take care of you.
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Do you think the relationship deteriorated because you were taking care of him like that?
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I think, I want to say yes, because maybe I didn't make him feel like he was doing enough.
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I don't, I kind of don't want to talk too much about it.
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I think for my first year, I think it was around, like, 80K, but I'm expecting six figures this year for sure.
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I'd say 15,000 to 20,000 a month, depending, but throughout the whole year, I would say probably, like, 300,000 a year.
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My best month this year on OnlyFans was about 210,000, and I'm averaging around 160K.
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I actually pay Peter 4K a week to be my assistant, so, yeah.
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Quarter of a mil combined of all my occupation.
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Do you also sell drugs or what other vices are you involved in, April?
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I recently became Playboy, which I don't know if the chat might have respect for.
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I think half of the girls here are Playboy now, too, right?
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Is it featured on their website, or how does that work?
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Jason, by the way, if you don't know, is a proprietor of numerous businesses in Las Vegas, so...
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I need to find a new line of work, because, like, God damn.
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I know some of you have kind of already touched on this.
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Do all of you do content with, was it BG, or, I mean, there's other types, too, or are
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Have you done BG before, or always been solo content?
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Like, I once posted me and my ex, like, doing, like, a clip, but then that's pretty much it.
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Like, from there on, like, after, near the end of 2020, it was just all me.
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It's just torsos and doodles, multiple cameras, tripods, all of that to make my magic happen.
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Okay, so, everyone else, you do boy-girl scenes.
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Do any of you post, like, on more traditional porn sites, like Pornhub or anything, or is
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I also, I've, like, started on many vids before OF, and I also recently did a professional
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We're about to lose, like, 100 viewers in chat right now.
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Oh, because they're going to head on over to, let me get caught up on some super chats
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All right, we have Ville Rontala, I believe that's Colombian pesos.
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Whereas Chase, he should be here speaking about Jesus.
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Unfortunately, you know, I think he's probably in a Twitter space right now talking about
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politics, but he's tired of arguing with girls about dating, so.
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Oh, they bring dishonor to family, W. Jason, the Chad.
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That was really, anyone else want to take a crack at it?
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Michael Trilstein, thank you for the $10 soup chat.
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All right, we got Common Rider 808, $10 soup chat.
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And, of course, the rest of the ladies and men.
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Did someone say, oh, I think Trilstein said squid games earlier before.
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I don't think anyone of us is like Korean, too.
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Okay, Michael Trilstein, W Squid Games, and then it was supposed to be, uh, let me see
00:46:26.860
Okay, yeah, that, they've probably already released that on one of the, some video or
00:46:32.500
Um, not them necessarily, but Declan Trippier, thank you for becoming a member, man.
00:46:40.500
Thank you for the, uh, 20,000 Colombian pesos, man.
00:46:46.800
Next year, we will see whatever in OnlyFans or in, uh, Corn Hub.
00:46:55.720
I actually contacted them and they gave it to me.
00:47:10.060
She's just off camera, but maybe take some photos with Kiki.
00:47:34.020
Um, guys, thank you for the, thank you for the super chats, by the way.
00:47:36.640
Actually, while we pull up Twitch, let me just shout out anyone on Twitch real quick.
00:48:07.800
I don't know if I have any more questions related to, uh, related to OnlyFans.
00:48:15.740
And did you guys, like, kind of, like, were iffy about it when you guys decided to do it?
00:48:22.420
Well, at least for me, um, I was anonymous and faceless.
00:48:29.300
I'm just gonna post these photos on Reddit just for curiosity, just for fun, just to
00:48:35.500
And then one of the photos went viral on Reddit and a bunch of my male high school and college
00:48:41.900
friends went on a witch hunt to see if it was me.
00:48:47.200
But then, like, I think, like, like, in 2021, I was like, I gotta make rent.
00:48:57.300
Um, I feel like, as a person, I've, I'm always, I've always been very, like, sexually expressive
00:49:07.320
But, um, I've always liked the idea of, like, taking risque photos, like, like, boudoir shoots,
00:49:13.360
like anything more, like, a professional setting.
00:49:19.820
And then I think slowly over time, that just built, like, a momentum.
00:49:23.160
And I gained more confidence to start showing my face.
00:49:26.420
I saw a TikTok of someone posting and being, like, I made a million dollars this year on
00:49:34.340
And I was a broke college student working as a waitress.
00:49:43.940
So, it actually wasn't a huge transition for me.
00:49:46.520
I was a stripper, like, trying to make ends meet in college, basically.
00:49:51.580
Um, one of my friends told me that I could be a stripper.
00:50:00.600
But then when the pandemic started, all the clubs closed.
00:50:03.920
So, this same friend started up in OnlyFans and then encouraged me to do it as well.
00:50:18.620
You said you made a lot on your first night stripping?
00:50:39.240
And you, so you said you did sex work before and that was stripping, right?
00:50:52.780
For example, let's say one of your OnlyFans people's, like, your, one of your fans, I guess,
00:51:10.880
I think we're, so one of the terms and conditions of OnlyFans is that you don't meet up.
00:51:14.600
And so, it's not worth compromising our accounts.
00:51:21.300
If you film it and tag them on OnlyFans, it's technically a collab.
00:51:25.500
So, if you're like, yeah, like, 200K, like, can we film it?
00:51:31.260
Oh, so it's against the rules to meet up with people?
00:51:34.340
You're not supposed to encourage, like, meeting up.
00:51:44.660
Okay, so, would you guys be willing to do a, essentially, escort for the right price?
00:52:14.860
I don't, just because I show my pussy on the internet doesn't mean that I'll just fuck anybody, to be honest.
00:52:20.340
I want to, if I want to sleep with someone, it's because I have a connection with them.
00:52:26.360
I feel like, for me, if I ever wanted to do it, I would kind of have, like, maybe, like, a pre-meeting first, just to kind of get the vibes.
00:52:36.240
And, like, I feel like, I mean, personally, if I'm going to spend the night with someone, I might as well just, like, you know, try to have a good time.
00:52:52.180
And I, like, for me, the way I see it is, like, I'm already showing myself to the internet.
00:53:01.040
And how do I make my future partner feel special?
00:53:05.800
This is how I'm going to make him feel special.
00:53:07.760
I'm not going to shoot with someone or anything like that.
00:53:11.000
That's how I show that I love him in that type of way.
00:53:14.940
Oh, I think it depends on if I'm really attracted to them or not.
00:53:34.680
I haven't really given this question a thought.
00:53:53.660
I mean, women don't really, like, be looking for male prostitutes like that.
00:53:57.700
I'm sure it happens, like, but it's just not...
00:54:19.420
You girls do know, like, guys, like, will fuck a girl they don't even like.
00:54:26.900
Here's the difference of demand is that you guys probably have on your Instagram, like,
00:54:41.100
It's easy for y'all, whereas, like, I don't even get DMs like that from girls.
00:55:02.940
Nah, it's just, like, it really isn't like that.
00:56:14.600
Born and raised in Dallas, but I'm now in Denver.
00:56:24.880
Just to go back, what's your price to be an escort?
00:56:33.860
Well, I have acted a fan before that I met at Anime Expo because he was really nice when
00:56:39.640
he approached me and he was like, oh, hey, I'm also a content creator and I'm a big fan
00:56:46.480
So, then we met up three months later because I thought he was really nice and hot.
00:56:50.400
So, I feel like if you're nice and hot, then as long as you're able to pay for your lodging
00:57:00.220
Um, it was a content trade because he was also a creator.
00:57:04.200
Is that really, like, I don't know if that's really escorting.
00:57:10.340
I mean, it's like, if you are attractive, then I will be down for it.
00:57:27.220
I wouldn't make a girl pay for me to have sex with her.
00:57:40.020
I mean, as long as she's attractive and is clean.
00:57:44.020
I'm, like, really curious on what your type is.
00:58:08.880
Like, they don't have, like, a low number count or, like, a high number count?
00:58:11.260
I mean, if we're talking just sex, strictly sex, like, I don't really care about any of
00:58:52.660
You guys asked what his type is, but what's y'all's type for a partner?
00:59:04.200
I love to be with a very ambitious man that can also support me, and my girls can also
00:59:11.600
be a loving person, and just, like, overall, nice, and, you know, like, minimally attractive.
00:59:22.600
And you said you want a guy who's ambitious, successful, so he can support you, support
00:59:29.540
Well, I would love to, like, support each other.
00:59:35.700
One of them just recently applied for UC, like, Berkeley, I think.
00:59:41.820
I was reading her apps, and I hope she gets it, honestly.
00:59:54.140
It's like, isn't it, like, one of the top public schools in California?
00:59:57.020
I mean, it's kind of trash, but don't worry about it.
01:00:05.260
But, and you said they're both, both your daughters are, like, about to go to college
01:00:16.780
I mean, was she already, no, she went to, like, a community college.
01:00:20.820
She's just applying for, I think she's just transferring.
01:00:25.860
But I would just love to have a man that would, like, support all three of us.
01:00:34.600
I mean, I would just love to do as much as you can and then, like, you know, root to
01:00:40.340
another, like, occupation, like, real estate, or I'm still practicing day trading, and yeah.
01:00:49.700
So, your, have you ever, do your two daughters know you, I assume they know you do OnlyFans?
01:01:10.360
But if they came to you and they're, like, hey, mom, we want to start an OnlyFans, like,
01:01:15.900
would you be, like, fucking go for it, or would you be, like, eh?
01:01:21.020
I would just ask them questions, like, oh, like, who you're going to be doing content with,
01:01:25.980
who your friend's going to be, just make sure you use, like, an alias name, etc.
01:01:37.140
I mean, like, they're also, like, influencers as well, but I just really care more about
01:01:43.700
their safety, and I already taught them that, and they're very responsible girls.
01:02:15.760
I'm 5'9", so, yeah, the married guy, my assistant.
01:02:23.580
There's been a correlation between, like, good dick game and being short, so.
01:02:40.920
I just want someone at the end of the day that I can talk to about whatever I'm feeling.
01:02:45.040
It could either be about the most stupid of things.
01:02:53.880
Why don't you talk to a therapist when I can talk to a man and unleash all my problems onto him instead for free?
01:03:01.800
But, again, I just want someone with, like, a nice sense of humor and overall, like, just, I don't know, morally good person.
01:03:20.720
I like shy, golden retriever gamer boys because I play a lot of video games, and I need a person that's going to rage with me when we, you know, lose games together.
01:03:35.440
Like, gamer boys, like, they got some nice fingers.
01:03:41.040
They got that words per minute, the fucking micro.
01:03:53.400
So, he's in the top North American hardcore raiding guild in World of Warcraft classic.
01:04:18.560
And on Warcraft logs, he parses in the 99th percentile.
01:04:33.720
You know, they're doing best in slot for all their gear.
01:04:42.600
And they fucking ran their server back during, like, fresh vanilla.
01:05:18.680
Does he, like, stream all of this for all of the other players?
01:05:23.720
Oh, he's just, like, anonymously just getting, like, the top parses.
01:05:32.900
I play Final Fantasy XIV, the critically acclaimed MMORPG.
01:05:39.340
And, like, you know, you kind of have to, like, be careful with timing.
01:05:50.040
Like, I wish that you could put a rating on your resume.
01:05:58.580
The organization to have, like, 40 or 25 or, you know, people every week show up.
01:06:13.540
So, like, okay, he may not be fit, but he tries his best to be healthy and, you know, take care of himself.
01:06:23.200
I would like him to try, play Overwatch with me.
01:06:37.420
I feel like that's where the confidence is with short kings.
01:06:43.480
Yeah, I feel like there's a correlation between, like, tall queens and short kings.
01:07:02.500
I will also add a point to the short kings and the gamer boys.
01:07:14.120
So, anyone taller than six foot is a little too hard to do the mattress mamba with, you know?
01:07:29.960
You know, not everyone is looking for a guy that's over six feet.
01:07:35.860
I know, but most girls don't want a guy that's shorter than them, typically.
01:07:43.920
I had a guy shorter than me that broke my heart.
01:07:58.880
I actually think most guys don't want a girl who's taller than them.
01:08:02.500
I feel like men have more of a height preference than women do.
01:08:08.500
I don't know a lot of men that would date a woman who's taller than them, honestly.
01:08:21.080
Like, for a lot of women, it's 100% no-go if they're shorter.
01:08:28.140
They want a guy who's at least taller than them, and you often hear six foot up.
01:08:37.300
Are you girls more into Asian guys, or do you guys have a type of...
01:08:47.620
All my serious relationships have always been Asian guys.
01:09:00.060
You think that men have a greater height preference than women do?
01:09:09.640
Like, I just feel like I've heard a lot of men say that they would not date a woman who's taller than them.
01:09:15.900
When I was a kid, I grew way taller than everyone else.
01:09:29.540
Yeah, did not like me when I was taller than them.
01:09:37.300
The thing is, though, is that most men are taller than most women.
01:09:48.240
Like, the amount of men that can say, I wouldn't date a woman who's taller than me.
01:09:53.380
There's not a lot of women who are taller than men.
01:09:57.940
Whereas, you often hear a lot of women say, well, okay, if I'm wearing heels, I want to be taller than the guy in heels.
01:10:07.040
But, overwhelmingly, when it comes to height, women for sure...
01:10:11.280
That's for sure a primary preference for women.
01:10:44.100
In Vegas, she had a midget Lady Gaga at her friend's party.
01:10:52.720
I don't know if I want a dwarf in the entertainment industry, though.
01:11:06.940
So, would you want anyone in the dating era, in the entertainment industry?
01:11:13.820
I would date a dwarf in the entertainment industry, sure.
01:11:29.180
Would I rather date, like, a girl who is in STEM or something?
01:11:43.120
Just if you're in social media, it's just kind of like...
01:11:53.200
So, would it matter if, like, your girl wanted to make, like, a couple million a year?
01:12:03.280
Would you let your girl do OnlyFans if it meant a couple million a year?
01:12:15.900
We're already together, and then she wants to start it.
01:12:36.500
You know, I'll get her a tripod with a timer so that she can do most of it.
01:12:41.520
But, like, occasionally, if I'm not busy, you know,
01:12:45.860
Are you the one behind the agency of Instagram?
01:13:26.460
But, I mean, I'm just kind of raised traditional.
01:13:31.900
That's, like, one thing she always taught me is, like,
01:13:35.620
You can be retired in, like, three years, though,
01:13:56.260
Yeah, like, why are you hustling so hard to make money?
01:14:05.780
I would say what I do is way harder than a 9 to 5.
01:14:19.580
there's some kind of, like, social, like, judgment.
01:14:46.400
So, it's just something I would have an issue with,
01:14:48.840
regardless of, like, how much money is involved.
01:14:50.660
What about if you met a girl and she already had an OnlyFans going?
01:15:15.160
I want to say if she's created, if she's doing solo content,
01:15:20.520
okay, you gave me, the example you gave me was you're already seeing the girl.
01:15:25.220
So, if I'm already seeing the girl, one, I wouldn't do content with her.
01:15:31.320
No one should do something they're not comfortable with.
01:15:44.980
Would you be okay if she did content with other girls, and just strictly girls?
01:15:54.460
It's still like STDs, you know, so I feel like even with other girls, that's a no.
01:15:59.360
I mean, in this industry, it's very, like, common to get STD tested, especially.
01:16:06.160
Not even just before scene, but, like, regularly.
01:16:08.720
Because I feel, I mean, I know, like, with the more traditional porn industry, that's a thing, but.
01:16:13.820
I feel like we have all collaborated with each other, and we have all gotten STD tested,
01:16:23.660
Because, like, if you go to your doctor, and you say, I want a thorough STD test,
01:16:27.180
they're probably not going to check for HPV, herpes.
01:16:30.320
A lot of times, they don't check for that shit.
01:16:41.180
Girls, definitely no-go for sure with another dude.
01:16:48.180
If I, let's say, though, I was just meeting a girl.
01:16:51.120
If she did solo stuff, I might get hate on the chat for this.
01:17:00.220
But if she did, if she did boy-girl stuff, I'm just like, nah, I can't do that.
01:17:09.460
Well, I mean, well, first off, if I'm going to pursue someone,
01:17:12.400
like, I want them to be properly single when I'm dealing with them.
01:17:17.560
But if it's only in a professional capacity, isn't she still properly single?
01:17:21.840
Like, if she's only having sex with men, like, on sets or for scenes?
01:17:27.020
No, if she's only having sex with men, like, in a professional capacity,
01:17:33.760
I mean, sexual fidelity is something that I value in a potential partner,
01:17:37.300
so, like, I don't care if it's in a professional context,
01:17:40.240
if it's in a three or four context, like, I just, I can't do it.
01:17:50.620
So, yeah, if she had previously done or is doing any boy-girl stuff,
01:18:00.420
I mean, what's your guys' experience, like, with dating?
01:18:06.760
I started my OnlyFans with my ex, and we were together for seven years,
01:18:12.760
I started off doing solo, and what my boundary and my limits were,
01:18:16.720
and what we agreed upon was that if I do collabs, it's only with other girls,
01:18:21.780
strictly just girls, and I think I've just kind of taken that into account for myself,
01:18:27.180
I don't do collabs with other men, again, because I would rather have, like,
01:18:31.160
a personal connection with them prior to sleeping with them,
01:18:34.480
but for me, like, if it's with just girls that I just met,
01:18:37.980
then it's more of, like, a work opportunity where I can turn that part off of my mind
01:18:44.680
Because it's a win-win either way, like, two hot girls doing it with each other,
01:18:50.540
When it comes to dating, do you guys think that having an OnlyFans makes it harder?
01:18:56.320
For sure, because of the stigma around it, right?
01:18:59.120
While we go around the table, we'll start with you, Princess April.
01:19:04.080
Well, I mainly do GGs on the occasion of Friends with Benefits,
01:19:09.080
so we just keep a professional for shooting and dating other people while having OnlyFans.
01:19:14.800
It's a lot harder, more for having kids than having an OnlyFans in the dating field, for sure.
01:19:31.200
They're, like, grown, so it's just, like, it's just kind of, like,
01:19:36.380
they just need, like, some open-minded understanding.
01:19:52.640
I personally haven't had too much of an issue because the men that I date for short periods of time
01:19:58.200
are either very free-spirited as well, or they're into, you know, like, being cugged.
01:20:04.640
So the boy-girl stuff kind of works out anyway.
01:20:11.460
Well, dating-wise, I would say in general it can be hard because of the negative stigma around it.
01:20:20.540
But for me personally, since I've never tried to, like, go date a person,
01:20:24.240
I wouldn't have any personal stories to share or tell with that.
01:20:30.300
I mean, personally for me, when I share that I have an OF,
01:20:35.380
And then I kind of ask them, like, oh, so, like, how much do you know about the field?
01:20:39.140
Like, I can, like, totally explain it to you, go behind the scenes.
01:20:42.140
And then once I tell them, you know, what I do, how much I make, they're like, oh, yeah,
01:21:02.160
Well, I assume, like, for most relationships, that takes a certain period of time
01:21:09.440
Like, you know, because, like, once I kind of tell them the income and, like, whatever,
01:21:13.100
they're like, oh, so, like, oh, my God, I can be a homie.
01:21:19.840
But, like, you're not sugaring off rip, like, from the jump.
01:21:27.500
I mean, I will say, like, sometimes I do think, like, being a sugar mommy sounds kind
01:21:33.000
Because, like, I just like to make people happy.
01:21:35.440
So, like, you know, sometimes I think of, like, you know, if I was super rich out there,
01:21:45.360
But I actually met my ex, like, when I was, like, through OnlyFans.
01:21:51.320
Personally, I haven't found it that hard just because I tend to go for people who are
01:21:59.780
sexually open and would prefer an open relationship like me.
01:22:03.680
So, I would only date someone who has that in common with me.
01:22:11.720
I think, like, I'm very, I'm focusing on, like, my relationships with my family.
01:22:17.800
My friends' relationships are, like, very strong.
01:22:21.320
But I guess if I were to date, I wouldn't see it as a problem because it's kind of a
01:22:30.560
If, like, someone were to propose, like, was, like, hey, I just go out to eat or
01:22:35.340
If I tell them you have an issue with it, then it wasn't meant to be.
01:22:38.360
For me, I posted pics, like, before I met my current partner and started my OF, like,
01:22:48.800
So, it wasn't, I guess, like, it wasn't a problem.
01:22:51.040
I told him pretty much, like, the day I met him that, like, hey, this is what I do.
01:22:56.240
And if you're not cool with it, then it's, like, not going to work out since I am pretty,
01:23:04.800
And it's, like, if you don't like it, then it's not going to work out.
01:23:07.420
But thankfully, I haven't, like, run into, like, any issues, like, with anyone opposing
01:23:11.620
that since, like, Tomie, I tend to go for people more sexually open as well, similar
01:23:34.260
So, have you dated, like, any guys who are, have a cuck fantasy or anything?
01:23:48.360
Especially the guys that seem like they would never be into, like, that, like, very, I don't
01:23:55.740
I feel like a lot of the times they'll have, like, the secret cuck fantasy where they want
01:24:01.720
The socially dominant guys actually want to be donned.
01:24:07.760
You would be surprised by the type of people who like to be cucked.
01:24:12.160
Like, how do you guys differentiate, like, guys that are just acting free-spirited to
01:24:17.400
get access to, like, have sex with you guys and, like, guys that are actually not...
01:24:22.340
And interested in them, like, genuinely interested.
01:24:27.560
I feel like if we first meet a guy, we're not going to, like, fuck them right away just
01:24:31.780
But I think it all takes, like, long talks and discussions about what we're both into
01:24:36.780
sexually, what we're open to, what we're not open to, what we're willing to try, what
01:24:41.460
What if he just tells you, like, really long lies?
01:24:59.760
So you want to see your guy, like, fuck another chick in front of you.
01:25:14.300
Like, I wouldn't be with a guy who I don't find hot, so...
01:25:20.920
Have you had guys who maybe you were seeing or whatever, and they want to, like, be in
01:25:35.420
Would that be a turn-on if they were crying in the corner?
01:26:01.440
Hate to break it to these three of foes, but they will never have a partner that respects
01:26:15.040
Anyone else want to shoot shots at MyGangsterism?
01:26:19.380
Pump and Dump is kind of what I'm here for, so, like, go for it.
01:26:31.140
I don't have gamer hands, but what do y'all think of rough construction worker hands?
01:26:39.660
You must have strong hands, strong grip, maybe.
01:26:43.080
Yeah, by the way, look at him right there in the thumbnail.
01:26:47.860
He's got the neon highlight, high-vis, high-vis.
01:26:54.400
Do you think he could collaborate with any of you guys on a little OnlyFans?
01:28:01.560
Do you think you'll still be doing OnlyFans then?
01:28:03.400
Or do you think you'll have made enough money to them?
01:28:05.680
If I'm still enjoying the platform and everything,
01:28:09.560
But if not, then I'd hope to be able to retire by that point.
01:28:14.240
I like to do, like, OF work and anything on that platform
01:28:31.380
Personally for me, I'm pretty hesitant on having kids
01:28:33.820
just because I think that having kids is, you know,
01:28:47.680
I would like to have kids, and I also get married too.
01:28:53.040
I think I'd like to get married, but not in the near future.
01:28:56.560
It would have to be when I'm older and I feel more prepared.
01:28:59.440
And technically, I have been engaged in the past,
01:29:07.440
and I would only have kids with the right person,
01:29:11.300
But you would have kids, given it's the right person.
01:29:18.860
I just think it's hard to find the right person
01:29:30.440
Um, at least in the next, like, 20 years or so,
01:29:41.400
I question my ability to, like, to get pregnant,
01:29:51.220
No, because I've had a really bad reaction to it lately.
01:30:06.760
Wait, so, okay, is that, you said you're raw dogging it.
01:30:41.260
If, like, sometimes if it's too tight, you know?
01:30:59.300
Is, is there such thing as pussy that's too tight?
01:31:06.360
Can I ask, like, how, how long do you guys usually go down on a girl?
01:31:11.140
Jason, you go first, and then I'll answer this.
01:31:13.420
I mean, I typically only do that with girls that I, like,
01:31:21.660
I mean, I'll say maybe, like, like, five, like, five minutes.
01:31:30.540
Wait, so do you expect to receive head from girls that you don't want to
01:31:37.720
I mean, I don't, I don't expect it, but if it happens, I mean.
01:31:44.140
I typically, typically it just happens, like, kind of naturally.
01:31:53.080
Because she might have been fucking someone, like, like, two days ago or a day ago.
01:32:01.200
What if the girl thinks that, like, why would this guy ask me to suck his dick?
01:32:03.820
What if he just fucked another girl before we met?
01:32:19.520
Dicks are, like, dicks are pretty much just, like, skin.
01:32:44.300
I haven't gone down on a girl since the Bush administration, so that was 2007, 2008.
01:33:11.600
I didn't know that was a noun, or what, I don't know, but, um, no, I'm just not really
01:33:20.800
Well, let me stay on cunglingus for a little bit.
01:33:23.840
I feel like I have to qualify my statement a bit here, so, you know, neck, hurts the neck
01:33:34.180
Just also kind of echoing what Jason was saying, honestly, I don't even do that, I don't even
01:33:41.040
do in relationships, not gonna front, but, like, a first-time thing, like, first-time
01:33:47.160
meeting her, it's, it's an L if you do that, because if she's fucking another, like, look,
01:33:54.600
we guys, we guys, we know it's 2022, people are just fucking, like, people are sleeping
01:34:01.420
with multiple partners at the same time, I would not feel comfortable, frankly, I, let
01:34:06.620
me not sugarcoat it, I would feel disgusted going down on a girl who just got fucked by
01:34:11.920
another guy yesterday, and he came inside her, to me, that would just be, like, gross.
01:34:27.840
I don't care the fucking nutritional makeup, I don't care if it's the fountain of youth.
01:34:32.780
I mean, actually, there are some men that are into, like, sloppy seconds, like, they'll
01:34:36.040
just, like, you know, eat it right afterwards, they're like, ooh, food?
01:34:39.820
I don't know, I don't think cum tastes that good.
01:34:41.900
I think y'all are speaking on, like, exceptions to rule.
01:34:45.000
I don't think most guys are not, like, stoked to be like, all right, I'm gonna have a fucking
01:34:50.140
meal now from the dude she banged the other day before, even if it's my first time with
01:34:54.760
a girl, like, yeah, it's just, and there's no even, like, expectation at that point of
01:34:59.700
any sort of loyalty, it's just, I don't want to do it.
01:35:02.680
In fact, if a girl's with another guy, I don't want really anything to do with her at
01:35:07.360
all, so I don't want to fuck, even if we use a rubber, I don't want to kiss, I don't
01:35:11.860
want to make out, I don't want to do anything, it's a wrap.
01:35:18.100
First date, like, first date, if I know that you're seeing another dude, there's another
01:35:25.980
And by the way, I want to make something clear, I don't have a double standard on this,
01:35:30.960
If she wants a guy to come to her proper single and not be, like, fucking a whole bunch
01:35:36.460
of girls, totally fine, I think that's totally fine, but speaking for me, yeah, if a girl
01:35:42.260
is hooking up with another guy, sometimes they're hooking up with multiple other guys, whether
01:35:47.840
it, or, I don't know, I don't know if I have a time period set, like, oh, it has to have
01:35:53.320
been a month or some shit, maybe I should start a quarter, it needs to be a quarter, three
01:35:58.000
months, I don't know, but that's maybe a bit excessive, I don't know, but.
01:36:01.740
So, I have a question, how would you know, like, what if she, like, what if you went
01:36:06.320
down on someone, and, like, she lied to you before, and was like, oh, no, I'm proper single,
01:36:10.480
like, I haven't done anything in a while, like.
01:36:14.380
Yeah, but she did go down on someone, but she lied to you, and then, like, you do it
01:36:17.780
with her, and, like, and you found out, what if, like, it was the best night of your life,
01:36:22.540
but then you found out that she was doing it to someone else?
01:36:27.400
I mean, I know what I'm doing, so, like, I can have great sex with, give me, like,
01:36:32.460
a virgin, I can have great sex with a girl who's a virgin.
01:36:38.060
So, like, how would you, like, know the difference?
01:36:40.180
Like, how would you, like, how can you tell that, like, a girl has, like, done it, like,
01:36:44.560
Like, the only way you can know is if she told you, right?
01:36:49.320
I mean, there's other sort of indicators that you can sort of, you can look at or suss out
01:36:54.220
to see, like, her degree of promiscuity, but some girls are fucking great liars, so,
01:37:01.940
Yeah, men, men are going to lie about that, women are going to lie about that sort of stuff.
01:37:06.960
Like, it's not actually, like, a fear of, like, physically, like, coming into contact
01:37:10.920
with, like, some other dude's bodily fluids, because if it's been over a day, realistically,
01:37:18.740
I mean, men are just naturally territorial, so.
01:37:25.160
Oh, no, because if it's been over 24 hours, let's say she's had, like, a thorough shower,
01:37:43.000
Well, okay, so for the 24 hours thing, unless she's, like, douching, which is not good,
01:37:46.760
like, I, my understanding is that's not recommended for the health down there, but, uh, that shit
01:37:57.340
Well, that, all that aside, like you mentioned, you also don't like eating pussy because your
01:38:07.380
So, would you be willing to sacrifice your neck if a girl would be willing to sacrifice,
01:38:15.600
Because men have to do so much shit to, like, get sex from you to begin with.
01:38:19.740
So, it's kind of like, once we get to that point, it's like, we earned it already.
01:38:26.100
Then why do men say that girls are easy if you have to do so much work to say?
01:38:31.020
So, everyone has different things that they like and different sexual preferences and different
01:38:37.520
There might be something that is a no-go for me, but is a go for you.
01:38:41.780
Now, could a girl, like, retributively, did I say that right?
01:38:46.380
Could be like, well, if you're not going to go down on me, I'm not going to go down on
01:38:51.060
I don't think that that necessarily has to be the case because we all have different
01:38:56.280
So, for example, some girls might not, I might really like not receiving anal sex, but
01:39:02.560
I might really like having anal sex with a girl.
01:39:08.480
And I have to accept that and say, hey, that's totally fine.
01:39:18.140
I just wanted to make sure, like, as long as you're not expecting a lot of head, if you're
01:39:21.560
not down to give head, I feel like that's a very fair boundary.
01:39:28.460
I find most women are kind of, are down for it.
01:39:34.820
I have had some women say, well, if you're not going to reciprocate or whatever, then
01:39:45.120
Well, because, like, I make sure my girl comes before I come.
01:39:49.240
So, like, we're going to bust out the toys, hands, gamer fingers, you know what I'm talking
01:40:06.260
Yeah, but hands, like, always, like, always make, some girls, the orgasm response between
01:40:11.700
women varies quite widely, but, I mean, I'm going to give it the old college try every
01:40:17.320
And most of the time, yeah, they're going to come before I come, so.
01:40:21.440
So, yeah, that's kind of my, I don't go down on girls, but I'll make you come, so.
01:40:30.700
It's a give and take, and as long as you give something, yeah.
01:40:34.920
But, yeah, I had, I just, I never really enjoyed it so much, plus, you know, I got the
01:40:56.180
Wait, Jason, can I convince you to just stop doing it?
01:41:15.080
Don't you guys think you get kind of aroused, like, before you have sex with the guy you
01:41:22.120
And you don't really, like, need all that foreplay?
01:41:25.840
I mean, it feels good, I'm sure, but it's like, can't you come without it if you, like,
01:41:31.440
You can never go wrong with a little bit of foreplay.
01:41:35.940
I'm not saying foreplay is going to help, obviously, but, like.
01:41:40.140
I think it just depends on, like, if the guy knows that he's, like, a fast comer.
01:41:45.060
Like, if, like, it's only a few strokes and he's about to come, then I feel like adding
01:41:48.740
in, like, going down on a girl or a girl going down on a guy would just add more to
01:41:56.140
Yeah, and I feel like for, like, women, it's, like, a lot more mental, too.
01:42:04.400
If it's mental, wouldn't you say, though, it's kind of, a lot of it's done outside of
01:42:08.860
And you're, like, feeling attracted to him and comfortable with him?
01:42:12.040
And, like, he's, like, one of the best guys, like, you could get?
01:42:17.420
No, it's, like, well, I mean, washing the dishes definitely helps.
01:42:26.200
But, for a lot of women, like, kind of making sure, like, they're taken care of,
01:42:31.580
their needs are met during sex, that is foreplay.
01:42:35.700
Yeah, it also kind of just depends on the mood, right?
01:42:37.720
Like, if I'm, like, you know, if I'm trying to take a shit and you're going and
01:42:40.520
you're, like, let's do it, I'm going to be, like, dude, like, you know, you know,
01:42:49.240
But, like, wait, I'm, like, get me into the right mental spot and then we can do it.
01:42:55.200
Yo, shout out to Rolo Tomasi in the chat, The Rational Male.
01:43:02.780
Anyways, so, yeah, I haven't gone down on a girl since the Bush administration.
01:43:13.980
Red flag, is that a red flag for you guys, though?
01:43:34.000
That's also why I almost exclusively want the girl to be on top, because back problems, too.
01:43:52.800
I like the girl on top of me doing work from bottom.
01:44:30.300
Do you think, because of OnlyFans, that that could present a difficulty in securing long-term commitment or securing a husband, etc.?
01:44:43.600
And then also, when it comes to kids, do you think there could be any negative impacts on your children?
01:44:55.200
And I think it might be worse for sons, but we've heard stories, like, where...
01:45:00.040
Because, you know, young kids, adolescents, whatever, in elementary school, they're fucking ruthless.
01:45:05.520
So, I could see, for example, a scenario where some kids on the playground are bullying Chad and Bartholomew.
01:45:19.700
Because those are the names of your future male children.
01:45:23.380
And, you know, the kids are going to be like, yo, I saw your mom, I saw her tits, like, da-da-da, like, all this shit.
01:45:34.220
Is that ever a concern for you guys, as far as those of you who have kids or want to have kids?
01:45:41.840
And I'm not saying it's right, but I'm saying that's a potential, a potentiality that could happen.
01:45:47.940
And I think it's, like, our responsibility to raise them.
01:45:50.980
Because I think a lot of it has to do with how you raise your kids and how you approach them with that topic.
01:45:55.960
So, for me, personally, I might consider homeschool for a few years until they're a little bit older.
01:46:01.820
And I would definitely come clean to them about what I've done in the past.
01:46:10.260
Homeschool is not a bad idea for a myriad of reasons, but go ahead.
01:46:19.420
Yeah, well, so you said you want to get married.
01:46:23.340
So, it was kind of a multi-part question there.
01:46:30.180
But, okay, so do you think it will be different?
01:46:33.640
Maybe we should just start with the kids one since we're on that.
01:46:35.780
Do you have concerns that when it comes to your future children that you want to have, that it could have some negative consequences on them, the fact that you're on OnlyFans?
01:46:48.740
So, I feel like there definitely could be negative consequences.
01:46:51.620
And that's something that I think about for my future.
01:46:55.080
But, like what Lucy said, it's all about, like, how you raise them and be honest with them about it.
01:47:02.720
Obviously, if they're, like, eight years old and they're getting bullied by other eight-year-old kids that they found out that had an OnlyFans, I would rather talk to the parents.
01:47:09.880
Like, why does your eight-year-old kid know that I have an OnlyFans and saying that, like, crap to my kid?
01:47:15.220
But I just feel like honesty is just the best policy.
01:47:21.800
I'm not going to try to hide or be ashamed of what I did in the past for my kids.
01:47:24.940
I want to let them know, like, hey, this is the path that I chose.
01:47:28.020
It might not have been the right path, and I'm not encouraging you to go on to that path.
01:47:31.420
But I did what I felt like I needed to do to start a family.
01:47:39.280
I mean, for me, I mean, I'm more hesitant on having kids.
01:47:41.860
But if I were to have kids, I mean, I would be honest.
01:47:46.280
And, you know, if the kid themselves felt repulsed by it or if they were bullied for it, like, I'm not going to judge them for it.
01:47:55.260
Just because, like, you know, societal norms are so strong, like, you don't even know when you are conditioned.
01:48:02.580
Like, it's really hard to know when you are influenced by what other people are saying and thinking.
01:48:06.760
And, like, if they were to say mean things to me or judge me, like, as their choice, I mean, of course I would be hurt.
01:48:14.860
But, like, I think what I would remind my kids, if I had them, would tell them that, like, hey, you know, I am more than just an OF creator.
01:48:27.180
And that does not take away, you know, anything just because I just do OF.
01:48:38.100
Before I have you go on this, let me just get caught up on the soup chats really quick.
01:48:55.560
I'm 22 and going to grad school starting in January.
01:48:57.560
Turns out I'm a virgin and never been in a relationship.
01:49:00.380
Is it unattractive for a guy to never be in a relationship and a virgin 2022?
01:49:10.140
So unattractive for a guy to have never, he's 22, keep in mind, unattractive for a guy to never be in a relationship and a virgin.
01:49:29.120
But it's just only unattractive if you just kind of cry about being single.
01:49:42.120
It's only unattractive if you turn it into a pity party for yourself.
01:49:55.300
I don't think it's inherently unattractive to be a virgin.
01:49:57.780
In fact, I feel like it can be quite endearing as long as you're like, you know, some of you mentioned not having a pity party about it.
01:50:08.140
It's kind of fun to, like, teach you, you know?
01:50:18.760
I get where you guys are coming from, like, a compassionate place.
01:50:23.240
A guy that's 22 and a virgin, he, like, what's crazy is I was a virgin until I was 22.
01:50:31.920
But it's, like, you haven't gotten sex yet because you don't have, like, the social skills to, like, get it yet.
01:50:39.960
And you have to build that up through, like, failing, like, with a lot of, like, different kind of girls.
01:50:45.260
But it's, like, you're going to struggle if you're a virgin to begin with to attract women just because you're going to kind of lack the social skills typically.
01:50:51.940
Because most guys that are, like, good looking or have social skills, they're having sex.
01:50:56.040
I think we just had a different understanding about what unattractive meant.
01:51:02.760
Like, I don't think it's unattractive personality-wise that they think that they're a virgin.
01:51:08.300
Maybe there could be other factors that would make them unattractive.
01:51:11.400
Yeah, I don't think it's the fact that their aversion is unattractive.
01:51:15.100
But, like, a virgin is inherently, like, not attractive because otherwise, like, he would be attracting women and having sex with them.
01:51:25.080
It would be fun to corrupt them, like, from a sexual standpoint, too, I think, right?
01:51:32.600
I think, but here's, maybe this is the way you're framing it.
01:51:35.460
You're thinking of, like, an attractive guy, but what if he was a virgin?
01:51:41.980
But, like, most guys who are virgins, you're probably not going to be attracted to them.
01:51:52.820
A guy being respectful and kind is the most, I'm not saying it's not important, but it's the most important.
01:51:57.620
I think I value those more than any other traits.
01:52:02.960
I was often made fun of growing up for not having great social skills.
01:52:07.540
So I have a lot of compassion for men who have those same traits.
01:52:13.720
What's that term that when politicians, they, not, what's it called?
01:52:24.600
The thing that is, we need to discuss here is how, like, I don't think that being a virgin is a bad thing.
01:52:31.120
Because you're having the assumption that being a virgin is somehow your fault.
01:52:34.900
But, like, we have no idea what kind of people you've met.
01:52:37.480
You don't know how many relationships that you've been through.
01:52:39.940
Like, you can't just assume that you are terrible at every relationship.
01:52:44.540
Because at the end of the day, if a person is a virgin, we don't actually know what kind of people they've actually met.
01:52:50.200
You can't just assume they have bad social skills.
01:52:53.340
Like, I feel like that's a bit of an assumption.
01:53:00.100
They struggle with that, typically, if they're a virgin.
01:53:02.180
Are you really going to want to teach a guy how to fuck you?
01:53:12.020
I think that maybe the power play involved in that dynamic is kind of sexy.
01:53:16.140
Especially for those of us in the room that are more dominant.
01:53:20.420
Who of, maybe show of hands, who's more dom versus sub?
01:53:26.800
Are you more, okay, well, there's switch, there's switch, but like.
01:53:41.080
So, I mean, there's no issue with teaching because we do that kind of already.
01:53:55.520
And if you're still a virgin at 22, that's normal.
01:54:00.480
Then that could be like different other factors.
01:54:02.340
And like, again, with social skills and like talking with women or something like that,
01:54:06.460
There is a movement that says that sex is very distracting.
01:54:11.200
So, maybe they're just like really focusing on other aspects of their lives are already fulfilled.
01:54:16.580
Also, there's nothing wrong with teaching because teaching is a type of communication.
01:54:21.180
And I feel like the number one thing you need to have before you have sex in any way is communication.
01:54:30.000
And also, like, every girl gets pleased, like, differently.
01:54:32.920
I feel like, in a sense, you kind of have to teach a guy, like, when you first sleep with him, like, how to please you specifically.
01:54:46.600
So, like, when you have this blank slate, it's, like, kind of awesome.
01:54:55.560
Well, you guys must all be outliers because the vast majority of women don't want to deal with guys who are virgins or sexually inexperienced or don't have the social skills to actually get a girl, get a girlfriend.
01:55:10.840
They're not going to have the prerequisite social skills, the skills in the bedroom.
01:55:17.060
Like, most girls, if they're, you guys said your switches, some of you, like, lean, dom, whatever.
01:55:24.060
Most girls are typically submissive in the bedroom.
01:55:27.560
So, they're not going to want to be like, all right, here, move your hips like this.
01:55:38.860
Because if you can communicate during sex and be like, oh, this feels good.
01:55:42.740
Then it can open up a whole other, like, can of worms that you can bring into the bedroom.
01:55:46.780
Okay, but we've established that you guys are outliers here.
01:55:50.040
Most women want men who are come pre-assembled.
01:55:55.500
Most women that we know think the way that we do.
01:55:58.040
Well, also, something worse than being a virgin is being a confident guy who thinks he's really good at sex but is actually awful.
01:56:07.020
He's like, let me show you, and we're like, can you just leave unsatisfied?
01:56:10.660
Like, you don't understand that a virgin might actually be a relief for some of us after meeting a lot of promiscuous men who are assholes.
01:56:19.340
And just because your experience doesn't mean you're good at sex.
01:56:32.380
I see one of these lovely ladies as a future president, CEO of a Fortune 500 company.
01:56:51.020
To the last super chat guy, just don't tell girls you're a virgin, dude.
01:56:55.380
Like, it's just not going to – there's no point in telling girls you're a virgin.
01:57:01.480
I mean, you said – no, the other guy, the previous one.
01:57:12.980
It's going to hurt you more than it's going to help you.
01:57:16.880
Yeah, I wouldn't tell girls if you're a virgin.
01:57:20.820
I mean, the thing is, I'm not just saying this out of my ass.
01:57:22.860
Like, I've watched, like, probably, like, hundreds of girls, like, in interviews talking about this kind of stuff.
01:57:28.760
And the vast majority say they would not want a virgin.
01:57:37.180
Like, if your homie was, like, I'm a 22-year-old virgin, would you make fun of him?
01:57:50.620
Like, I mean, it wasn't my friend, but it was my brother, I would say.
01:57:53.540
He did kind of help me out because it was a friend of, like, my brother's friend.
01:58:00.520
I mean, he just invited me to, like, go hang out with, like, some girls that he knew.
01:58:05.980
Like, at a party setting or, like, a bar or just, like –
01:58:09.440
No, it was literally kind of, like, a double date type thing.
01:58:16.100
So when we're talking about, like, girls don't like guys who are virgins, are we talking about –
01:58:21.760
Or are we talking about, like, okay, I'm in a relationship with you, and then we're about to have sex for the first time,
01:58:26.260
and then I'm like, hey, I'm a virgin, by the way.
01:58:28.300
No, I would say just in general, like, girls typically don't prefer virgins.
01:58:32.520
Like, this is the first time I've honestly heard, like, this many girls in a group say that.
01:58:37.280
I feel like most of us are probably a little more sexually open.
01:58:42.860
And, I mean, I don't really fault if, like, if the guy lacks social skills or, like, lacks skills in, like, having sex,
01:58:48.020
because, like, let's be honest, does society give us enough tools to even know what sex is?
01:58:52.620
Like, is sex education something that is currently, you know, being taught right now?
01:58:57.840
Like, I don't think people know much, and I don't think that's people's fault.
01:59:01.380
And I think the best thing that we can do is to be open and to not judge.
01:59:06.760
I mean, in a perfect world, that sounds, like, good on paper, but...
01:59:09.620
The world's not perfect, but we can always try.
01:59:11.520
I know, but you're not going to just fuck, like, any guy.
01:59:14.280
That's, like, kind of weird and awkward and, like, giving you weird vibes.
01:59:17.980
No, but I wouldn't think that they're unattractive if they came at me and, like, and said, hey, I'm a virgin.
01:59:24.860
I mean, that would be weird to open with that, but...
01:59:28.040
I mean, I'm pretty sure, like, we've all, like, taken someone's virginity in here before,
01:59:34.880
I think you girls are kind of outliers, like, just because of, like...
01:59:41.140
I mean, it's a good thing for the virgins of the world, yeah.
01:59:44.900
What do you guys think about a girl who's a virgin at 22?
02:00:04.620
Over the summertime, I had a little ting with...
02:00:28.720
I was just about to ask why you thought she's a virgin, but...
02:00:58.360
Like, I mean, you guys definitely seem to be outliers on this virgin thing, but I think
02:01:01.600
most women prefer, like, a partner that's more sexually experienced, that has the requisite
02:01:11.060
I think one difference between men and women, though, is that...
02:01:17.080
Just because you guys are outliers on this one, I don't know how big of a shock of this
02:01:20.420
would be, but, like, even for a one-night stand, most men would prefer a virgin.
02:01:26.320
Or someone with a low body count versus a woman who's, like, could give you a better
02:01:34.320
We would prefer low body count or a virgin, even for a one-night stand, compared to a
02:01:53.980
I feel like if it was a one-night stand, I wouldn't even care how many people they slept
02:01:57.340
with, or if they slept with any at all, because I'm never going to see them again after that
02:02:07.460
Brian doesn't even believe in hookups like that.
02:02:10.320
Yeah, he, I mean, you don't like doing hookups.
02:02:12.460
Oh, if, like, for example, if I'm, like, traveling.
02:02:16.540
And, like, I'm in fucking Amsterdam or whatever, and, like, obviously there's not going to be
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I'm just not even, it's not even worth my time, to be honest.
02:02:31.800
But it's just, like, at this point, it's like, what's the point?
02:02:37.640
Like, if I sleep with someone, I don't want it to be just one time.
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Like, I've never been, I've never been into just, like, running through a bunch of girls.
02:02:49.280
I've always preferred, like, seeing where things go.
02:02:52.940
But if I sleep with someone, I want to continue seeing them.
02:02:59.300
I think, like, having sex with someone, like, you are attracted to and you're in love with
02:03:06.300
And, like, even if your motivation was just sex, you're going to have, I would say, the
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most consistent sex, the most regular sex, and probably the best sex within a relationship
02:03:18.280
or, you know, with someone that, you know, you're consistent with.
02:03:22.940
And if, like you said, if you love them, you have an emotional connection, then the
02:03:31.340
Because, like, being in an open relationship, like, having so many different people being
02:03:42.300
It's very different doing the, having, like, the person I have a connection with being inside
02:03:48.720
And then purely on a physical level, I mean, you've built that comfort, but also they know
02:03:56.360
So you've guys got each other wired, like, figured out proper.
02:04:06.560
So you guys said that you want to have, get married at some point, have kids.
02:04:13.440
So do you think that there's a, I mean, I feel like I'm almost reiterating the question.
02:04:26.580
Do you guys acknowledge that because of what you do, because of OnlyFans, that it will be
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I think we're also outliers just because we make a lot more.
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Like, we have something a lot of people don't, which is freedom.
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And so when you see someone that's passionate, meeting their goals, I think it's really attractive
02:04:52.760
I mean, you'd be surprised again, like, how many guys wouldn't care about us doing OnlyFans.
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I know, like, the traditional societal norm guy would definitely care a lot, but there's
02:05:06.100
plenty of guys out there who are down for long-term relationships and...
02:05:15.540
Because from what I've heard from a lot of men is for just some short-term fun, maybe
02:05:24.840
even just a girlfriend, but, like, long-term commitment, marriage, kids, family, a lot
02:05:31.240
of guys have told me, like, I would not, I couldn't do it.
02:05:35.360
And I don't know if that's something that you guys have encountered.
02:05:37.800
Maybe if you're just matching on Tinder, you would find 99% of guys would be like, no,
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But I think a lot of us also have long-term friends that may turn into relationships, and
02:05:50.520
I feel like you're more likely to get a marriage and, like, kids out of something like that where
02:05:55.040
they've known you as a person beyond you as a sex object, you know?
02:06:01.640
Yeah, and it definitely, like, kind of depends if both of your kind of, like, goals intertwine
02:06:08.360
with each other. And, like, you know, if it, like, doesn't get in the way, kind of, like, just, like,
02:06:15.060
the same, like, morals and, like, values as well. Like, if you guys are kind of on the same page about
02:06:21.580
A lot of successful OnlyFans girls that I've met are married or have long-term relationships.
02:06:28.440
I mean, it's just the same as wanting a partner that is supportive of your career.
02:06:32.780
But how many of these girls, like, because OnlyFans is kind of a bit new. I'd say it's kind
02:06:39.520
of come into the public consciousness in the past two or three years. How many of them were
02:06:43.880
already married, already in relationships, and they're on their, like, that's their primary
02:06:49.120
partner and has been? Because you said a lot of OnlyFans girls have long-term partners,
02:06:55.420
are married. I mean, they probably met before they started doing sex work.
02:07:05.280
We've seen proposal photos, you know, like, in our group chats and such.
02:07:13.100
Yeah, I think what also happens is that, like, you know, I think, like, for maybe a person
02:07:17.320
who's into traditional norms, they'd be like, oh, that's kind of weird. Like, I'm not really
02:07:20.960
into that. But, like, you know, I feel like when people see us, they see us as a person
02:07:27.280
before seeing us as an OF creator. And I think that really shines out a lot more than
02:07:32.720
what we do. At least for me personally, when people meet me, they're like, oh, you play
02:07:37.220
a lot of video games, you like reading, you love cats. Asher, if you're watching this,
02:07:45.860
Yes, enough, I can. Like, I feel like, you know, I feel like qualities other than just
02:07:56.320
A lot of you, I kind of want to bring it back to something that I had heard earlier
02:08:00.220
before. So, who was saying that you don't get a lot of sleep because you're working so
02:08:07.240
Okay. And is that because, in terms of what you're working on, is that you, like, messaging
02:08:15.200
It's not just that. It takes a lot more. People don't understand, like, how much work
02:08:20.200
goes into this. Like, most people don't do well on OnlyFans, right? Like, most girls,
02:08:24.860
they really don't do well. But it takes a lot of time. You are interacting. Like, you are
02:08:29.800
their therapist. You are the entertainment. But you're also, like, doing a lot of background
02:08:35.040
work. Whereas, like, making content, keeping up with it, structuring your business. It's
02:08:49.100
You do a lot of writing. You become a really good writer when it comes to these things.
02:09:04.380
I'll know where I'm going with that. That's my, that's my next point. Well, okay, so.
02:09:10.640
Well, generally speaking, do you, but do you think the men that would be willing, that,
02:09:17.480
that are okay with it, like, for example, your fans. I suspect your fans would happily
02:09:23.220
be in relationships with you. Or date you. They're obviously attracted to you. They're
02:09:28.100
obviously prepared to pay for your OnlyFans and interact with you. And I suspect some
02:09:34.160
of you have, they've maybe pushed for person, in-person meetings, or maybe you've received
02:09:39.300
proposals from, from some of them. And so, but would you, would you date a customer?
02:09:49.080
Because I've, I've spoken to a lot of strippers and they've said, I would never date a customer.
02:09:53.980
I'd never, because, because you like, and you, you used to strip, right? So you said
02:09:59.060
that's different, but so like, would you date a customer? And maybe you can weigh in on what
02:10:06.820
Well, sure. A lot of strippers, we had regulars, right? But you don't generally develop an intimate
02:10:12.740
relationship the way you might on OnlyFans, I would say. I, but it varies. It varies. I just
02:10:22.200
think that there's more men who get on OnlyFans for that personal connection and interaction
02:10:26.660
than maybe men who go to strip clubs. A lot of guys who go to strip clubs are just looking
02:10:30.480
for a fun night. Or just want, just want attention and that's it.
02:10:34.780
Okay. Huh. But, so you said though, when it came to stripping, you never found a guy
02:10:41.860
who was a customer, like, you wouldn't date a customer?
02:10:45.680
I will say, no, well, no, I didn't find anyone I was interested in, but I will say maybe if
02:10:49.520
I had done it for longer, it would have been different.
02:10:52.700
Okay. Because isn't there some component of these guys are tricking on you? Like, so you're
02:11:00.660
just like, you've put them in the customer category, even if they were attractive or whatever,
02:11:05.920
decent, decent men. You're like, you're a customer. Like, is there something unattractive about a man
02:11:21.140
Not inherently. And I did know some girls who dated customers. I think that there's actually,
02:11:27.580
there could be something endearing about a man caring about you enough to spend that much money
02:11:33.860
Can you take the microphone down just slightly?
02:11:35.820
Of course. Yeah. But yeah, there's something, there's something endearing about a man wanting
02:11:40.460
to spend that much money on you. That's a real sacrifice. So I feel like for a lot of women,
02:11:45.120
it shows that they really care about you. And that feels good.
02:11:50.280
I would kind of disagree just because a lot of my fans also spend a ton on a lot of other girls.
02:11:57.620
And I don't want to say I would never date a fan because the right one might come along and there's
02:12:02.540
a lot of sweet ones, as we all know. But just the fact that they're spending on other girls and also
02:12:07.500
they, they saw you as sex object first, right? Like they were attracted to your nudes first.
02:12:13.840
And it's really hard to get to know my personality through OnlyFans.
02:12:18.080
So just for that, I would be kind of wary in dating fans.
02:12:21.480
So actually my past two relationships were fans. So, um, yeah. So I, before I did OnlyFans,
02:12:33.100
I did Twitch. So I would just, you know, play, play games with them.
02:12:45.360
Overwatch one. And then it was like my birthday and I was like, Hey, who wants to celebrate my
02:12:50.240
birthday with me? And then a couple of my fans showed up, found out they lived close
02:12:53.960
to me. And then we became friends and we're all hung out together. And it was just like,
02:12:58.340
Did you charge them to, for the meet and greet?
02:13:01.880
It was just purely friends. Cause I only invited-
02:13:04.080
You were comfortable with that? I feel like a lot of girls would not be cool.
02:13:08.440
And I Ubered home. So they couldn't really follow me.
02:13:11.860
Okay. Actually, that is interesting. So you mentioned that your, your fans, they're paying
02:13:18.760
for other girls, only fans. If you started dating a guy, well, I'm not even sure if you
02:13:24.320
would date a fan, but like, let's say you were dating a guy and you found out that he
02:13:29.060
was spending money on other girls, only fans. Would you have an issue with that?
02:13:36.900
I think it depends, but I want to say yes. Like honestly, just speak not for the fact that
02:13:41.760
he's looking at other girls or even talking to other girls, but the fact that he's spending
02:13:45.240
money on other girls when it's like, you should be spending money on me, you know? Like that's
02:13:51.440
the issue I have. Like he can watch porn, he can, you know, whatever, but if he's paying
02:13:56.900
for someone else's nudes, that like gets to me a little bit.
02:13:59.800
Interesting. Okay. We'll go around the table on this. Would that be an issue if you were
02:14:04.120
dating someone and they were spending money on somebody else's only fans and other girls'
02:14:09.320
Yeah, I would kind of have a problem with that. Okay.
02:14:14.600
I would never date a fan, but if I were to and I found out they were spending money on
02:14:18.240
other girls, it is not a problem for me personally. Like, I would probably want to watch it with
02:14:23.420
them. Like, oh shit, what she's posting is hella hot. Oh shit, that's a really fun position.
02:14:32.920
Yeah, I wouldn't mind like dating a fan if they were able to separate, you know, if
02:14:38.220
they could do more than just, you know, sexualize me. But if I found out that they were subbed
02:14:42.920
to another girl or giving another girl money, I wouldn't really care. I would be like, yo,
02:14:47.040
you want to share? You want to be a homie? It's like sharing like a Netflix subscription.
02:14:50.580
Like, I want to join. I want to look. I mean, I also like women. So like, and also like, you
02:14:54.920
know, looking at other girls too, sometimes I subbed to other girls just because I want to
02:14:58.540
see what they're doing because, you know, I feel like every creator has something special
02:15:02.460
and I want to look at it because I'm constantly inspired. So like, if I, you know, if my fan
02:15:11.880
Okay. Well, you heard me. I, I, I did date a fan.
02:15:15.160
And so what happened was I asked them, I'm not comfortable with them looking at other
02:15:19.220
girls content and also like paying for it. So I told them like, Hey, whatever you want
02:15:24.320
to see, I will make it for you or we can make it together. Okay. Like I mentioned already,
02:15:32.440
like I prefer open relationships. So actually, um, I don't think I would have, sorry, tilt
02:15:38.860
the microphone down towards you. Yeah. Like I said, um, I prefer open relationships. So I
02:15:46.580
think this is an area that I would be open-minded about. Um, and also I always support people
02:15:51.180
supporting sex workers. So personally speaking in an open relationship, I think that like
02:15:55.780
I would be okay with both of us being able to do that. Right. Um, I, I may be more reluctant
02:16:01.960
to share my own wealth with that person though. Yeah. I don't have a problem dating a fan and
02:16:08.340
if they were consuming other girls as only fans products, that's fine with me because it's
02:16:13.760
like ethical, ethical consumption. And like, they're going to be watching a lot of guys watch
02:16:18.780
porn. I don't think it's like, I'm not in the place to just stop them. So like might
02:16:23.880
as well just have them do something more ethical. Oh yeah. I wouldn't have a problem dating a
02:16:29.240
fan either. I actually like became friends, like pretty good friends with some of my fans.
02:16:34.060
Um, uh, as for like dating a fan and like having them spend money on other girls, I like other
02:16:40.760
girls too. So I'm like, Hey honey, can I watch with you? You know, can I throw some money at
02:16:45.440
them too? It'll be a bonding experience for me. Okay. Um, you know what? We have a video
02:16:52.820
for us to react to. Um, it's, uh, from a similar podcast to ours and, uh, they, they sort of
02:17:03.660
were discussing this in one of their, I think it was a recent stream or maybe it was a while
02:17:07.120
ago. I don't know, but he's talking about the difficulty that only fans creators could potentially
02:17:14.340
face in the dating marketplace, in the sexual marketplace, in the marriage marketplace.
02:17:19.160
Um, go ahead, Eric, if you want to pull it up and we want to get your guys' reaction to
02:17:25.640
it. Fast money leads to slow problems down the line for women. And a lot of the times,
02:17:31.200
you know, getting on only fans, being a stripper, being a dancer, being involved in the sex industry
02:17:36.020
whatsoever, what's going to happen is you're going to get that money quick. You're going to
02:17:39.200
get that bag. You're going to become successful from a financial perspective, but you're going to
02:17:43.000
become very poor from a mating perspective. So, um, just understand that your actions do
02:17:48.840
have consequences in the future. You can't have it all. You want to be a city girl? You
02:17:52.660
go and stay. She belongs to the streets. In the city. You know what I'm saying? Women are
02:17:56.600
interested in a man's future. Men are interested in a woman's past. So, so I know that you're
02:18:03.320
like working with a, with an agency to expunge that stuff, whatever. If a guy truly is serious
02:18:08.740
about marrying you, he's going to find out. And what's going to happen is one of two things.
02:18:14.280
He's going to be either A, okay with it, or B, he's going to say, fuck no. And he's going
02:18:18.360
to like not take you serious because no guy wants to commit to a woman that gave her goods
02:18:24.740
away for free or for some kind of monetary compensation. Like he's just like men just have like a serious
02:18:30.080
issue with women that have a past. It is what it is. Like men are designed deep down. It's
02:18:34.600
going to burn him. That's why like, you look at like porn stars, look at Lana Rhodes, look
02:18:40.480
at Mia Khalifa. Yep. You know what I'm saying? They got married. Their, their husbands right
02:18:44.260
came in like, I can accept her past. It's okay. No big deal. Blah, blah, blah. What happens
02:18:48.260
a year, two years later, they divorced her. Why? Because dudes are sending her, sending
02:18:51.900
him videos of his wife getting railed every single day, calling him stupid. Yo, no one wants
02:18:58.000
to pay full price for a product that other people got for free. And we're talking about marriage
02:19:01.680
or a serious relationship. He's not going to give you his last name or a ring if he thinks
02:19:05.480
you're a home. Give me some specs. Your guys' reaction to that, by the way, that's from
02:19:12.220
the Fresh and Fit podcast. You can check them out on YouTube. Your reaction to that, we'll
02:19:16.640
start over here. Well, I'm not going to be broke when I'm older because I plan to reinvest
02:19:24.880
that money into multiple, like, stocks and other things. Oh, no. He said you're going
02:19:33.120
to be good financially. Okay. But you're going to be poor from a, like, dating
02:19:37.080
and, like, relationship standpoint. Oh. No, I think I'll be okay.
02:19:40.680
Yeah. I was like, how would you know? Like... Have you guys ever, like, thought about, like...
02:19:51.420
Maybe we'll just, like, have them all react. Go ahead. I guess he's just assuming that
02:19:56.840
we would care a lot about having a guy being interested in our value, right? Like, for
02:20:01.700
me, it would be great to have marriage and kids, but it's not a must for sure. What's
02:20:05.280
most important to me is to be comfortable and happy for my entire life, and I don't need
02:20:09.780
a man to kind of achieve that. So, yeah, that's kind of my stance.
02:20:14.920
I saw you grimacing, so what's your response to that? Oh, I enjoy fashion-fit drama, but
02:20:24.980
I don't necessarily enjoy their podcasts. But, I mean, what he said is true. Like, how
02:20:31.160
men think more about women's past and women think more about men's future. I think that's
02:20:36.600
pretty understandable, and we're gonna be poor in, like, the dating aspect of it, but
02:20:42.880
honestly, like, you can find the right person for you that would match you. It doesn't have
02:20:48.600
to do with, like, what you do for work or anything like that. You can meet someone that would be
02:20:56.280
open about it with you, who can share your interests. Like, if I met someone who is as
02:21:00.540
open sexually as I am, and then we come up with our own boundaries and our own rules when
02:21:04.840
it comes to what I do with my work, then a relationship is totally possible, that leading
02:21:09.280
into marriage and leading into having a family. OF is not, like, a forever job for me. It's
02:21:15.120
not, like, it's gonna dictate my life. It's helping me live in it in the moment.
02:21:20.220
But it's kind of a forever thing for the guy, though.
02:21:22.740
Well, would they, I mean, if he takes it personally like that and cares about shit like that, then
02:21:27.400
I don't think it would work out. Yeah, then it's just not meant to be.
02:21:29.120
Yeah. But someone else could come along, and it would work. It would work.
02:21:33.480
I think it's kind of cute how he was like, oh, you know, guys are gonna break up with
02:21:38.460
you or, like, divorce you because, you know, you sold off your, you know, your goods. Like,
02:21:42.920
I would like to tell him, like, okay, so you're assuming that our goods are objects, so therefore
02:21:47.880
you're objectifying us, which means it's your opinion. Go ahead and leave. You know, go ahead
02:21:54.420
and leave. There's probably someone out there that's not judgmental. They know, you know, that
02:21:59.540
a woman's value is not from their body. I'd rather take that guy because he's probably
02:22:02.880
smarter, not judgmental, and probably a lot sweeter. So, sorry, dude. Think better.
02:22:08.980
I think it would definitely be, it's kind of hard to find guys who are okay in the dating
02:22:17.460
world, but I don't think it's completely impossible. Don't you think you're, like, severely limiting,
02:22:24.320
like, your potential, like, options, though? You guys really don't? You guys think the majority
02:22:30.760
of men, so 50% or more of men don't care about the figural hazard. It depends on what you consider
02:22:36.020
to be a limitation. I think that earlier Raina mentioned that it's kind of a filter. You're
02:22:40.820
filtering out people you're probably not going to vibe with. Personally, I'm fine with
02:22:45.280
that. There's way too many fish, bro. Yeah, there's a lot of fish. There's not a lot of good
02:22:51.540
fish, though. There's not a lot of good fish. Like, there's a lot of, like, mediocre fish,
02:22:56.440
and you guys make a lot of money, too, so that's another factor. It's like, I can't
02:23:00.880
picture you guys sticking around with, like, just regular dudes for that long, so it's
02:23:05.640
like, you're... I don't think that's true. No, that is not true. I don't think that's
02:23:08.920
true at all. Because we're also regular girls. I mean, but she, like, she said she wants an
02:23:12.020
ambitious guy, so it's like... It's just nice to have someone ambitious, like, just, you
02:23:16.120
know, keep working with me, and then keep working in general, like, everyone's working
02:23:20.060
until they're 62, and then apparently that's harder than doing Willy fans. That's
02:23:26.220
that. I mean, so you guys are really saying you wouldn't care if a guy makes less, like,
02:23:31.000
significantly less money than you. No, I would not care at all. As long as he's not bumming
02:23:34.960
around and doing something. No, yeah. Let him pursue his passion. So you'll continue doing
02:23:42.020
the OnlyFans while he pursues his art degree? I will pay for it. You'll pay for it? Yeah.
02:23:48.360
I have a BA in philosophy. He can do whatever the fuck he wants. Whatever makes him feel happy
02:23:53.680
and fulfilling, and that doesn't have to be with capitalism. I feel like what you guys
02:23:57.680
are thinking about, it has to do more with, like, your own, like, the guy's ego and stuff.
02:24:01.340
Like, guys have to make more money than girls, and if a girl makes more money than guys,
02:24:04.500
then it's, like, a bruise to their pride. No, like, no, one of, like, one of the leading,
02:24:07.380
like, predictors of divorce is when a woman that was making less than her husband starts
02:24:13.080
making more than her husband. That's one of the, like, leading, like, pre-indicators.
02:24:16.740
We should talk about with our partner, right? Like, and also be like, hey, if I made more money
02:24:21.360
than you, how would you feel about that? You know, and you talk about that during the dating phase, too.
02:24:26.980
I think most women have a serious issue being the, like, the sole breadwinner in relationships.
02:24:35.180
You might deal with it for a short period of time, but, like, if he's gonna just be the stay-at-home
02:24:42.600
dad in the same way that there are stay-at-home moms, like, you're gonna lose attraction for him.
02:24:48.720
You're not gonna, if he's just a, essentially a bum, you're not gonna have respect for him.
02:24:54.080
Being a stay-at-home dad is not being a bum, though. That's the difference, right?
02:24:57.400
They're doing a lot of work, just like stay-at-home moms would do a lot of work.
02:25:00.480
Okay, but, so I have a question, though. I have a question. So,
02:25:04.960
before you have children with someone, how long would you anticipate being in a relationship with them?
02:25:16.200
I guess it would depend on one, two, three, four years.
02:25:19.700
So, for that entire time before you have children, where there could be a scenario where he could be a stay-at-home dad.
02:25:26.320
There's other ways to contribute, like, for me, like, emotional contribution is a lot, like, the support.
02:25:32.080
But also, they do housework, chores. They take care of the house.
02:25:37.380
I mean, we either have a full eight panel of outliers here, but, I mean.
02:25:42.560
And also, it's just, like, for some, for a guy to make as much or more than me, that cuts down the population of guys by a lot, right?
02:25:51.660
Like, so, that's more reason why I'm not expecting him to match me in any way, especially since I'm doing well enough for both of us.
02:25:58.600
But, off, women really don't spoil their, spoil men the same way that men spoil women.
02:26:10.780
Look, if my man wanted a PS5, right there, Amazon Prime, boom, right there.
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Women do not share their resources with men the same way that men share their resources with women.
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My partner does not pay rent, like, so, I pay all the bills, I pay for all the furniture, I pay for all the trips, I take him with, I took him with me, too.
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Because a lot of women, if their guy was just, you're taking care of all the rent, all the expenses, a lot of women are not going to respect that guy.
02:26:53.740
But, to be fair, you are outliers in the sense that a lot of you are very high earners.
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So, you have the means to support a man, but...
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It sounds good on paper, but I'm just, like, tip...
02:27:09.380
Well, you keep calling us outliers, but you ask us these questions, so it's, like, we're giving these answers, but, like, the response is, like, oh, you guys are outliers, so then, like...
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How likely is that each of us, like, all of us here in the room are outliers, and y'all are not?
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I mean, doesn't it make more sense that maybe y'all are just out of touch with what women our age believe and think?
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I've watched, like, probably hundreds of hours of podcasts of interviewing, like, thousands of different girls.
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I think, also, the income is, like, a bigger factor than you probably think, because out of all those interviews, like, how many women are...
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Like, they could be good earners, but that there's a difference between being a good earner and being able to completely take care of your partner financially, right?
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She said she wants an ambitious, successful guy.
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I suppose it could be the case that the rest of you would be fine with...
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I mean, I think all of you guys would want an ambitious, successful guy that makes more than you.
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If you have the same guy and you can pick A, like, ambitious, or B, like, he's already, like, successful, you're probably going to pick B.
02:28:25.640
Honestly, when it comes to the whole ambition thing, I actually don't think women strictly like ambitious men.
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They like men who have reaped the benefits of their ambition.
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I feel like if a woman was like that, that's pretty classist.
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Because we need to stop, like, thinking that hard work will just get you the money that you want.
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Like, some people can work so damn hard, but still not to get the money that they want.
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And, you know, success doesn't have to look like having, like, a six-figure job.
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It can be being emotionally mature, having people who love you, having a strong support network.
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And that's why I don't think income matters, necessarily.
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Would you date a guy who's currently living with his parents?
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Most people can't afford the average apartment.
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Like, honestly, y'all should have higher standards than that.
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Like, I mean, like, I don't think that staying home with your parents is like a sin.
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Like, there's so many, like, you know, circumstances that could lead to that.
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And some people had to, like, go back to their parents.
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And it doesn't necessarily mean, like, they're less of a man or, like, they're less worthy of, like, being my partner because of that.
02:30:07.040
Who here would date a guy who's around your age that lives with his parents?
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Are you the only, you two only, wait, sorry, hands again?
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Well, 45-year-old, most 45-year-old men are probably not living with their parents, I imagine.
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Because we're from Asian cultures, most people do stay close or with their parents.
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We have six houses on one street where our grandparents are in just one house so we can all take care of each other.
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Also, in certain European countries, that's the case, too.
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Like, in Italy, for example, people stay with their parents longer.
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I think it's a very Western, very American thing for us to, okay, 18, go, like, get out on your own.
02:31:11.560
And I think it's kind of unfortunate in the sense that we don't stick around to take care of our parents and whatnot.
02:31:21.380
So, but I'd say, generally speaking, in the U.S., in a lot of Western countries, it is sort of looked down upon if, you know, let's say by the time you're 21 or out of college, if you're still living at home.
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I think it's just, like, very unfair to ask us to speak for all people.
02:31:40.240
I think we're just giving our own personal beliefs here.
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I've met a lot of Asian Americans who still live with their parents, even if they're, like, closer to 30.
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Just the best financial, I think it's just one of the best financial routes to do.
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Or, like, if you just really enjoy having a family around, there shouldn't be anything wrong with that at all.
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I personally don't think there's anything wrong with it.
02:32:06.160
You guys mentioned there's financial considerations.
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And then you could also just be close with your parents and maybe taking care of them, whatever it may be.
02:32:15.480
But I would say, generally speaking, if you take the average 25-year-old woman and you ask her, hey, would you want to date a guy who lives with his parents, most of them are going to say, no.
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Because he's not independent and he's not all these things.
02:32:36.020
I think the reason why they would say no is because they have no context.
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And then, like, you know, with societal norms, especially in Western countries, yeah, like, they would have the assumption, like, oh, if you're staying home with your parents, yeah, there's something wrong with you.
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And I feel like if the circumstances were known, it would change someone's answer.
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Well, someone can be staying at home just because, like, maybe the housing market sucks.
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Like, maybe they can't buy a house, but they got, like, this killer-ass income.
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Maybe they're staying with their parents because, like, maybe they just broke up with, like, their spouse or something and they need to stay with someone else to, like, you know, emotionally recuperate.
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Like, so many things happen in life that it's not just because you're a failure.
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And, like, there's also the topic of compounding interest as well, right?
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2K a month in rent, millions of dollars you could be losing out on.
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But, like, so women don't really care about men's struggles.
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Like, they wait at the finish line and they pick the winners.
02:33:47.580
I feel like everyone, no matter how successful they are, are starting with some certain struggle because no one is living a perfect life.
02:33:53.720
A successful relationship is about whether you are willing to invest in believing in that person and being with them for every step of the way.
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If I don't have game, if my life isn't set up, if my social skills are lacking, women aren't going to be like, oh, it's okay, Brian.
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If I'm kind of nervous on the first date, it's a fucking wrap.
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If you don't, the girl's going to fucking curve you and go with someone else.
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Because why would I expect a man to come all perfectly assembled when I am not perfectly assembled?
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I'm not going to expect some guy to be perfect when I'm not even perfect.
02:34:42.180
You need not be perfect, but if you show up to a date with lacking social skills and you're not, like, you're nervous or you're kind of, like, jittery or whatever, she's going to be like, nah, I'm not about it.
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Well, I mean, power to them if they want to do that.
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But at least when it comes to me, there's a reason why someone would lack social skills.
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Maybe they didn't have a lot of friends growing up.
02:35:05.220
And, like, rather than just going away and being like, okay, like, I don't want to date you, how about we just find out why?
02:35:10.300
And, like, literally, I feel like a key to a lot of relationships is not having judgment.
02:35:22.100
I was going to say it's not a deal breaker, but I can agree with the fact that I would prefer, like, personally someone who's more put together or, you know, like, dominant in leading conversations and such.
02:35:39.260
To go back, you said, like, what you said about, like, well, we shouldn't judge people, but it's, like, how many guys, like, hit on you in a day and ask you out?
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Honestly, pretty often, like, maybe, like, 20 to 50.
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And out of those 20 or 50, like, how many do you go out on a date with?
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I mean, first of all, it takes a lot of labor to find out more about each person, know what they're, like, looking for, know who they are in a level.
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And then I have to think about, like, what I'm processing, about what, how I'm feeling, whether I'm in a mental state to go out with someone.
02:36:16.180
Because I'm not going to go out with someone if I'm, like, depressed and, like, I just want to, like, go to sleep, you know?
02:36:20.700
Like, for me personally, I would, it would take me a long time.
02:36:24.300
I would probably be more selective, not just because, like, I'm, like, you know, judging them.
02:36:28.980
I'm probably asking myself, am I right for them?
02:36:34.060
And 20 or 50, you have to also understand that we are exposing ourselves to a large group of people, like, every single day.
02:36:40.160
Like, I mean, if you look at the percentage and the ratio of people who actually know who I am and see who I am versus people who, like, DM me, I think it's pretty normal.
02:36:49.980
I mean, but in general, women reject men far more often than they say, like, they pick them.
02:36:56.860
So you're obviously making some sort of judgments, some, you're deciphering to some degree.
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I mean, I assume you don't date every single guy that wants to date you.
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So you are sussing out, okay, well, what metrics, like, I want to get the best guy, right?
02:37:13.460
I mean, we can all agree we would like to get the best partner we can get.
02:37:17.840
So I'm assuming that you're looking at either appearance, you're looking at personality,
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you're looking at any myriad of traits that they might have to determine whether this is someone I'd want to pursue or not.
02:37:30.060
Yeah, I think the key that I just want to say is that I think everyone deserves a fair chance.
02:37:35.200
And I think that also people need to learn how to actually carry out and enforce the judgments that they lay onto people.
02:37:41.620
I mean, it is very, I mean, look, it's impossible to live in a world without judgment.
02:37:45.120
But if you're going to judge something based on a certain quality or value, you may as well do a damn good job.
02:37:51.020
It kind of seems like men and women have very different ideas of what success and attractiveness look like for men.
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Like, I actually think men judge each other much more harshly than women judge men.
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Because when I speak to other women, the qualities that I hear come up the most when looking for a man are things like kindness,
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being respectful, being sensitive, being willing to talk about your feelings.
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Have you heard the saying, like, have you heard the saying, like, girls don't know what they want?
02:38:16.800
Like, I guess that's me. We hear that all the time.
02:38:19.640
Like they'll say they want like they'll say they want the nice, respectful guy.
02:38:22.740
It's usually men that bring up things like wealth and success talking about other men.
02:38:26.840
But OK, you mentioned what were the big ones? Kindness.
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Yeah, kindness, being respectful, sensitive, emotional.
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There's no there's no short supply of nice guys, kind guys.
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Disrespectful, like cursed-eyed parents or like gangsters, like wannabe gangsters.
02:39:06.840
There's the bad boys, there's the jerks, there's the assholes, there's the scammers, the criminals, the gangbangers, whatever it may be, right?
02:39:28.140
Yeah, but even then, like for me, if I was attracted to like a bad boy persona or whatever, like a guy with that type of personality, I think that the attractive part for me is that he would treat me well and be kind to me and be sweet to me, but he would be like bad in other areas of his life or be an asshole to other people.
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I think that women like that because it makes us feel special.
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In the end, it still comes down to wanting to feel respected and treated with kindness.
02:40:00.000
I would want the man to respect everybody equally and fairly.
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I don't think I would personally try to date a bad boy like that.
02:40:07.300
I feel like that's, that would, that would just open up a lot of like problems down the line because maybe he's a little bit disrespectful now, but you don't know how far he would go to be disrespectful down the line.
02:40:20.320
Like it could start off with just starting to yell at you or starting to criticize you in certain things and then it can escalate into even bigger things like restricting what you do and all that crap.
02:40:30.200
Like those are red flags for sure, but I'm sort of speaking on like maybe like just musing on why women like bad boys.
02:40:38.080
It's definitely not because like they like being disrespected.
02:40:40.340
I think the reason why women like bad boys is because they portray a certain kind of masculinity that is attractive because it seems like bad boys, they seem to look like they exercise a certain autonomy that is attractive because I think autonomy is attractive or being independent.
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But I think like when it comes down to it, you know, bad boys, I mean, I mean, there's like the trope of them being like emotionally unavailable and all this sort of things.
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I think really if you're liking somebody that's not kind to you or, you know, is a bad boy, you have to ask yourself, why are you liking that kind of guy?
02:41:17.820
I think I know why girls like them because it makes you guys uncertain about your position with him and whether or not he's chosen you as his girl.
02:41:29.700
And and like, why, why you guys, because, because like the only way, the only way a girl is going to like know that she's like, you're not going to know you have the best guy you can get.
02:41:41.060
But if like, you know, you have him like by like, like, no, I feel like if I already have my person, that's the best person for me already.
02:41:55.360
I heard a saying once that goes something like if you treat them like dirt, they'll stick to you like mud.
02:42:02.080
I mean, what's crazy is you girls can say this stuff.
02:42:04.500
But like me personally, like, like as someone who struggled a lot with dating as like the nice guy, like the fucking like good morning texts and all that shit.
02:42:13.600
I had a bunch of don't fucking send good morning texts, guys.
02:42:24.420
No, I mean, I mean, this is like a sentiment that like a lot of guys would share.
02:42:34.500
I like I mean, I was like, yeah, I would really like these girls and I would just get like you were being genuinely nice without expecting a reward for your kindness.
02:42:50.240
But how often do you hear like because the guys who are jerks or assholes or fuck not fuck boys, but who are bad boys, whatever.
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They are exciting to you in a way, whereas the nice guy, you know, button up, regular job like he doesn't excite you.
02:43:12.400
I prefer someone that genuinely shows that they care about me and they want to be my partner.
02:43:17.460
But when you were younger, when you were younger, for example, I think that's true.
02:43:23.840
Well, yeah, I think as you as you mature, you your inclinations shift.
02:43:29.780
But I mean, probably for a one night stand, though, you're still going to want the bad boy for long term commitment.
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You're going to want the nice guy because here's the thing.
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Like, that's quite a because you're a traditional.
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Whereas now you're in a fairly non-traditional occupation.
02:44:25.080
Let me ask, since we were talking about the money thing, who should pay on the first date?
02:44:35.240
Like, whoever invited the person out or like split the check.
02:45:03.120
So like, you know, every time we finish eating dinner, there's like people fighting with the
02:45:09.380
No, I'll like whoever is really just dying to pay the damn bill.
02:45:19.100
If the guy asks me out and he wants to pay, then I'll let him pay.
02:45:21.780
But if I ask him like, hey, let's go out to this restaurant I really want to try.
02:45:24.380
And it's a super expensive restaurant, I'll fucking pay for it because I wanted that restaurant.
02:45:29.660
I would offer first, but it would make me feel good if he also offers.
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Like, I would still try to win it, but it would make me feel good if he also offered.
02:45:55.520
I would offer it first, and then it could be split, but if he wants to completely cover
02:46:08.580
I mean, personally, I don't really think about like, like, I don't really think about like
02:46:12.100
whether like, oh, like who should pay this or that.
02:46:13.760
Like, if I'm paying the dinner, it's because me, Tofu, wants to pay the dinner because that
02:46:32.880
Wait, so you said it's, what was the term you used?
02:46:36.400
It's nice if the guy, it's classy if the guy offers.
02:46:46.800
So the reason I asked these two questions, the would you date a guy who lives with his
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parents and would you date or who should pay on the first date, it kind of brings us back
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to the conversation we were having about finances and money, right?
02:46:59.280
And so a lot of you said whoever asks should pay.
02:47:04.520
And again, maybe you guys are outliers on this one.
02:47:07.360
Generally speaking, men are overwhelmingly asking women out on first dates.
02:47:14.620
Maybe you guys are taking that initial first step, that initiative.
02:47:18.640
But for you to say that whoever asks should pay, you might as well answer the guy should
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pay because overwhelmingly men de facto are the ones who are asking women out on first
02:47:28.720
I mean, if I really like a guy and I want to ask him out, then I, I mean, I would pay.
02:47:35.940
But it's been really long since I've been on a date.
02:47:46.960
I will say that I think like the whole thing about like men having to pay is kind of bullshit.
02:47:52.540
I find it really strange that there's this whole thing of like, oh, yeah, men paying for
02:47:56.500
the bill are paying for the bill, a masculine trait or, oh, getting pampered, women trait.
02:48:18.340
She can pay for her, her food or sorry, I don't do food dates.
02:48:26.500
If you ask a girl out and you ask her to split it.
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So I'm never going to be like, can I take you out?
02:48:35.560
I'm going to say, would you want to grab a drink?
02:48:39.380
Now, some girls might still consider that you're asking.
02:48:49.020
It's, it's the difference between asking someone out and offering to take someone out.
02:48:55.000
So I'm not, I'm saying, hey, do you want to grab a drink?
02:49:02.360
I'm saying, you want to grab a burger or, you know, you want to grab some food.
02:49:06.740
But you're asking someone of the opposite sex that you'd want to like hang out with more, right?
02:49:13.040
A hangout or to like potentially become your girlfriend?
02:49:19.020
Are you, are you, are you trying to differentiate being something more casual versus something formal?
02:49:25.060
Whatever it is I'm looking for, like, I'm not going to pay for your food on the first date.
02:49:32.720
I have a few, a few rare scenarios in which I will pay.
02:49:36.560
If I get the sense that she's tradition, like very traditional and she's not, I can, with near certainty, I know that she's not fucking someone else.
02:49:46.420
Then I would pay or, well, how do you figure out like, you know, like with certainty?
02:49:54.660
So you would only pay so that traditional women won't get mad at you?
02:50:00.140
Because she would get mad if you, if she had to pay, right?
02:50:04.960
So the other scenario that I would pay is if like she's in college or something and she's not making money.
02:50:13.980
But if I'm dating a 30-year-old litigation attorney who's making $200,000 a year, you can afford it.
02:50:25.800
When was the last time I've dated someone in college?
02:50:33.820
It doesn't have to be like the exact month or anything.
02:50:36.700
It doesn't have to be like the exact month or anything.
02:50:41.400
Within, in the past six months, I've probably done it, yeah.
02:50:48.020
I'd say the majority of women I'm dating are around my age.
02:51:00.900
When was the last time you dated someone that was in college?
02:51:12.200
Me and Brian got kind of different principles on paying on the first date.
02:51:17.480
See, but the thing is, is like I lose women by doing this because a lot of women do, it's
02:51:24.900
either a preference or like we've had women come on the show and they say, yeah, if a guy
02:51:29.360
didn't pay for me, like, you know what, I'll pay and then I'll never talk to him again,
02:51:48.380
So, the first one is, who here, here, show of hands, who here believes in gender equality?
02:52:03.960
As a concept, do you believe in gender equality?
02:52:07.060
I believe there should be gender equality, yes.
02:52:10.940
Because there's a lot of, like, chivalry, like, associated with that.
02:52:14.120
So, I think he means, like, true gender equality in every single way, right?
02:52:20.300
Like, I still like some of the traditional facets and I like feeling good and I like feeling
02:52:25.720
So, total gender equality, like, completely, I wouldn't want that.
02:52:30.660
But here's the thing, you can't, equality is not a, and speaking of dinners, equality,
02:52:35.540
no pun intended, equality is not a buffet where you get to pick and choose the equality
02:52:42.120
You either get equality across the board or none at all.
02:52:45.900
Wait, so you're saying, like, our options are total equality or back to, like, we can't
02:52:50.320
I feel like that's very black and white thinking.
02:52:55.180
Well, actually, the way it plays out in today's modern dating marketplace, women actually do
02:53:03.720
have men adhering to their traditional gender roles, but women are not adhering to their
02:53:09.940
So, actually, yes, you guys do, as it currently stands, you do have the best of both worlds.
02:53:14.760
But I'm, I'm saying that, yes, it should be, it ought to be equality across the board.
02:53:23.920
So, when someone breaks into our house, you best be getting the gun.
02:53:31.600
Yeah, you have to kill the, you have to kill the spiders.
02:53:40.180
And then they have to carry children using science.
02:53:44.600
So, are you guys like, no, but, okay, the main, the main thing, the main thing, I'm, I'm being.
02:53:51.840
I'm, I'm being a bit hyperbolic here, but the main thing it comes down to is the financial
02:53:58.580
If you want equality, we're going to be financially equal in this relationship.
02:54:03.400
So, does that include the wage gap, for example?
02:54:09.260
That's, that's, well, you've asserted something exists, so you would have to, you need to
02:54:15.600
You just asserted that it was debunked, so I'm asking you, how was it debunked?
02:54:19.860
If you're asserting there's an existence of something, it is your duty to argue why it
02:54:25.840
It's not, it's not my job to prove that it does not exist.
02:54:29.740
I would argue that you made a lot of postulations, really, and you didn't cite your sources.
02:54:40.480
Of course, like, we're not going to pull up the studies, either.
02:54:48.820
Look, I mean, you've, look, you've asserted that the wage, the wage gap isn't real.
02:54:52.820
I didn't find a specific source for the wage gap, which has been discussed over and over
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again in nearly every piece of mainstream media, apologies.
02:55:02.180
The duty is on you to prove it, not me to disprove it.
02:55:06.200
Okay, that which is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
02:55:12.600
If you put our phones and you didn't tell us to put it away, maybe we could have our
02:55:16.160
I mean, I think the fact that you're trying to repute our argument and asking us to recite
02:55:22.460
You don't need to give me your sources, but you need to articulate what is the wage gap.
02:55:30.040
It's when two people who, a man and a woman, not all the time, but a lot of the time, are
02:55:39.000
doing the same exact job and they're not being paid very well.
02:55:43.000
Women are making less money than men on average, and even if it's illegal, it's still happening,
02:55:49.520
For example, women do a lot of domestic and care work that is unpaid, which adds to that.
02:55:53.860
If your husband, if you're a stay-at-home mom, and your husband is out working, providing
02:56:02.700
for the family, it's not really, like, it's not unpaid labor, because your husband's out
02:56:13.480
Obviously, like, we're outliers, so I don't know how else to describe it.
02:56:16.440
I mean, there is a gap between, like, how much money men make and how much money women
02:56:23.520
It's also that men are more likely to get higher-paying jobs than women, and it's not
02:56:44.960
I'm curious about what Raina is asking, actually.
02:56:52.660
I'd be happy to get to that, but I would like to, before shifting on to another topic,
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we could talk about the wage gap for a little bit.
02:57:03.600
Do you know what the number is for the wage gap?
02:57:05.640
It's often, like, you hear 80 cents or 73 cents.
02:57:09.460
The last time I saw a source for this was 2013, probably.
02:57:15.280
Yeah, the study they pulled that from literally took just average working women and their pay
02:57:26.620
It took all the men working in the U.S. and all the women working in the U.S.
02:57:33.360
They didn't take into consideration hours worked, part-time or full-time,
02:57:41.240
There's so many factors when analyzing something like this.
02:57:46.920
If there was a study that showed exact salary on the same exact profession,
02:57:52.800
Because there are professions where women dominate and male don't dominate.
02:57:56.760
Yeah, well, I mean, there's just differences in the career paths that both men and women go to.
02:58:02.760
But when you control for all the factors that you can control for,
02:58:06.880
the gap shrinks to, like, it's one cent difference.
02:58:12.600
For every single job in the whole wide world, I'm...
02:58:17.300
There's been studies done on it, and they found there's, like...
02:58:19.740
There's, I think it was 19 different factors that predict a person's income.
02:58:24.860
And discrimination is a small percentage, but it isn't...
02:58:34.520
Like, most women typically aren't going to want to work 80 hours a week,
02:58:37.900
have no personal life, and dedicate 30 years to it, like, working as, like, a CEO.
02:58:45.540
I think the wage gap that we're talking about is being paid less for the same job.
02:58:50.580
That's illegal, and if that's happening, then that's...
02:58:53.000
Of course, and it would be much nicer if people...
02:58:55.980
So, if there was a culture where we are more transparent with our salary, that's fine.
02:59:00.940
But no one's going to admit they're paying a lot more and admit that they're doing a crime, right?
02:59:13.620
Yeah, because, like, you can say you have the same job, but it's more difficult to say, like, who's doing...
02:59:20.100
My point is that these studies are inconclusive, and they're not great studies,
02:59:23.940
because you don't actually look at the root of the problem.
02:59:26.240
The wage gap is really just defined as different salaries...
02:59:35.260
I mean, I know there's a recent study where Google thought that this might be happening,
02:59:43.940
so they audited all their employee pay, and they had to end up paying men, like, millions of dollars.
02:59:51.880
And actually, what the recent data shows is that single, unmarried, childless women actually out-earned their male counterparts.
03:00:14.880
Men and women end up making different choices, but if you look at childless, never married,
03:00:20.960
out-earned women, they out-earned their male counterparts.
03:00:38.400
I think we can still call that a wage gap, though.
03:00:41.500
Like, we're not accounting for things like how women are expected...
03:00:44.380
The issue I have with the wage gap is it comes from a place of assuming that it's...
03:00:50.960
because men are sexist that there is a wage gap, and that's just false.
03:00:54.780
I don't think that that's necessarily true because that's just oversimplifying the issue.
03:00:58.920
I mean, but the issue is oversimplified, though.
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For example, STEM is a field where you can earn a lot of money.
03:01:06.460
There's not as many women in STEM as there are men.
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Or is it because women are not socialized to do it?
03:01:15.420
I mean, how many girls are with you in your STEM classes, though?
03:01:22.240
In societies that are the most equal, if you look at Sweden, you look at Norway, you look
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at Denmark, these are societies that have gone above and beyond to try to create equality
03:01:33.620
You actually start to see a greater divergence in terms of men going in a certain direction
03:01:41.440
When you give people the most amount of equality, they actually...
03:01:48.840
There's differences in what people choose to pursue.
03:01:56.160
But just on the STEM thing really quick is, like, yeah, men have, generally speaking,
03:02:00.180
have a greater interest in those sort of fields.
03:02:07.540
No, no, because that's what the Scandinavian countries thought, is if we can apply enough
03:02:12.820
social pressure to men and women to, like, kind of start doing different things, then
03:02:17.280
we should see a trend towards more leveling of, like, STEM and maybe, like, nursing.
03:02:23.000
But what you see is more girls are choosing the people jobs and more guys are choosing
03:02:33.500
And also the whole STEM thing, like, women are outnumbering men in biological sciences,
03:02:42.720
And isn't biological sciences generally paid less than, like, the more techie parts of
03:02:48.340
Well, I mean, you can be a doctor if you've studied...
03:03:06.800
Just because they have a lot more viewers, they're going to bring in a lot more money.
03:03:16.720
Should the WNBA, should they be compensated the same as NBA players?
03:03:43.860
But, yeah, they should because they're playing, like, the same profession.
03:03:47.020
Okay, and you guys, would you agree with, like, soccer too?
03:03:50.100
That's been a conversation that the women's soccer team supposedly doesn't make as much
03:03:58.460
Let's stick to the WNBA because that's a different one, but did you answer that?
03:04:01.900
If the reason why women are being paid less is because there's less viewers,
03:04:06.080
then just paying them more doesn't actually solve the problem.
03:04:09.180
The problem is why is it that people are more interested in watching men's sports
03:04:14.360
And I feel like the answer goes back to sexism, which is a cultural construct.
03:04:19.500
People just want to see the absolute best at, like, people do a certain, like, skill.
03:04:25.820
It's just more entertaining to see the best of the best.
03:04:40.100
WNBA, should they be paid as much as their male counterparts in the NBA?
03:04:46.100
So kind of, like, going with what Tomia said, like, okay, if it's viewership,
03:04:50.640
but they're not getting as much as guys, why is that?
03:04:55.740
If that's the case, then, like, okay, they're bringing in more fans.
03:05:04.540
If the girls aren't getting the viewership, it makes sense to me that they don't get paid equally.
03:05:12.580
I think the NBA is a lot, is a far greater, like, organization than the WNBA.
03:05:18.140
A lot more people, I personally don't watch WNBA, but I'll catch a few NBA games.
03:05:22.680
So I feel like the men, I guess the men deserves more in that aspect.
03:05:29.180
I think it is justified because there's going to be disparities in everything.
03:05:33.500
They enjoy watching men play sports more, just like they enjoy watching us make porn more.
03:05:43.840
I mean, like, even in the way, way past, like, women weren't even allowed to, like, join Olympics until it was allowed to.
03:05:52.880
And then, yeah, I mean, like, who gets the most money in LF, the hottest people?
03:06:07.360
So this is the share of sports fans in the United States as of May 2022 by gender.
03:06:12.560
So on the left you have the regular blue, that's an avid fan, dark blue, casual fan, gray, not a fan at all.
03:06:22.880
On the left you have male, on the right you have female.
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So there's a much higher proportion of men who are avid fans, whereas females, they're just not a fan at all of sports.
03:06:36.120
So nothing is preventing women from consuming the WNBA.
03:06:47.220
Besides Brittany Griner, who we should actually talk about momentarily because there's actually some news on Brittany Griner as of today.
03:07:38.160
James Harden, James Harden, Michael Vick, Reggie Bush, Steph Curry.
03:07:44.720
Sports in general, unless you were talking about specifically basketball players.
03:08:01.100
You brought up, like, is it fair for women to get paid less?
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I think you guys, all of you, you guys are OnlyFans creators.
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Dudes don't really make a lot of money on OnlyFans.
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I know a lot of male creators that make just as much as most of us girls.
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But there are way more women on OnlyFans than there are men.
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Yeah, would you subsidize the whatever OnlyFans?
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I'm really curious to see what the ratios are for people who are on OnlyFans
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I would assume men earn more, or, sorry, excuse me, men earn less.
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Men earn less on OnlyFans, and there's less of them, too.
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Yeah, so, but racial, it's not impossible that racial, proportionally,
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Oh, so you're saying because there's less men that, but women, I mean,
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It's definitely because women are more attractive, and, like,
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I definitely agree that men make way less on average.
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Like, they probably, maybe from gay, like, if their audience is men,
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maybe they're making, I would assume most men who are doing OnlyFans,
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I'd imagine most of their consumers are, most of their fans are other men.
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I mean, it's either most of their fans are gay men,
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or most of their fans are straight men that want to see a lot of different women
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So, actually, a lot of these, like, straight male OnlyFans creators
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that are making a lot of money, in a way, they're making a lot of money
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because they're working with already successful OnlyFans girls
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who are already making a lot of money, who are already famous.
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But, okay, you guys down to subsidize the whatever OnlyFans?
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because a lot of these successful male OnlyFans creators
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honestly, they're famous because they're working with women
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I'd be down to subsidize you if you can make a profit in the long run.
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Because the NBA players aren't subsidizing the WNBA.
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Well, to a degree, they, not on an individual level,
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Of course, and OnlyFans takes 20% of each of our profits.
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But why is it a burden on us and not on the organization itself?
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I don't think you're going to hear a lot of women on OnlyFans
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But, like, I think I'm pairing apples to oranges.
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Well, it's kind of a similar comparison insofar as...
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Similar as in, like, forcing NBA players themselves
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On an individual level, you guys should not be subsidizing me.
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But the point is, is if OnlyFans was subsidizing
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they're probably going to come for a bigger cut
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Or the cut that they are getting is going towards that.
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Like, if we're not happy with it, we could move.
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No, move to a different business that respects us better.
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Like, it's not unheard of, and it's not impossible for us to do.
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then we've got to subsidize the male OnlyFans porn stars.
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a lot of us kind of already are subsidizing male creators
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because they're getting famous off of us getting famous.
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the weekend Ariana Grande, like, sharing the same music?
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Guys, get your, get some last-minute super chats in.
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Oh, actually, we have a question here from Stifler.
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Ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of 1 to 10.
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Rate your looks, rate your appearance on a scale of 1 to 10.
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I think I'm 7 in the U.S., but, like, a 3 in East Asian countries.
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They think I need to be paler, and they think everyone needs to be under 100 pounds.
03:14:24.740
No, like, when I go back, they think you're fat?
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I would say 8 out of 10, with room for improvement.
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I would have to know more about Kazakhstani beauty standards.
03:15:00.840
I mean, they're the number one petroleum exporters in the world.
03:15:15.520
Well, if, like, a bunch of men, like, 100 men rated you, what, on average, do you think
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I mean, aren't, like, men the ultimate consumers of female beauty?
03:15:35.760
I mean, you don't think that males are the ultimate, not the only, the ultimate consumers
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Women notice more things about, like, my appearance than men do.
03:15:51.860
I mean, lesbian relationships are kind of, like, it's a small percentage.
03:15:54.760
There's, like, you know, we're talking to, we're talking to, we're talking to, we're
03:15:57.060
talking to, we're talking to, we're talking to, even heterosexual women, I think, notice
03:15:59.460
more things about other women's appearances than men tend to do.
03:16:04.060
I know, I'm talking, like, like, I mean, you guys are OF girls.
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But OF isn't the standardized, like, you know, be-all, end-all of what people are looking
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Like, even big girls make a lot of, like, a lot of fucking money.
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Well, I feel like in California, I'm a solid, like, 6 out of 10.
03:17:42.420
Um, definitely for me, because I work so hard when I go down.
03:17:48.360
At least, like, some recognition and a kiss might work.
03:17:52.720
And, like, look, you know, if you really want to know your body, you got to taste everything.
03:17:58.940
But, like, you know, the stuff that's not going to kill you.
03:18:07.580
But, like, literally, if a guy is scared of, like, of the taste of his own cum, that's really funny to me.
03:18:40.680
These are the questions you guys want to ask us.
03:18:56.100
I mean, like, I've smelled that shit, and that shit don't smell good.
03:19:01.820
I mean, from what I've heard from girls, it's kind of the fucking consistency that's weird as fuck.
03:19:14.880
If it's, like, thick, then you gotta drink some more water, honey.
03:19:25.880
Might as well just spit in my mouth while you're at it.
03:19:30.260
Well, actually, I'll let you guys finish if you want, but...
03:19:57.260
And then do you like making out after that, tasting yourself.
03:20:01.120
And then there's also the guy making out with you after you've gone down on him.
03:20:08.660
Also remind me, we gotta do the Brittany Griner thing.
03:20:11.180
Um, so, if a guy was like, yo, I'm not really...
03:20:19.720
If a guy didn't want to make out with you after you went down on him, is that...
03:20:33.920
I feel like if I'm taking the time out of my day, busting out my jaw, sucking your dick,
03:20:38.520
and I'm trying to make you cum, like, you can at least just fucking kiss me back.
03:20:47.260
I think it is kind of weird if they don't, like, want to kiss me after they eat me out.
03:20:52.800
After you go down on the guy, and they're like kind of...
03:20:57.060
They don't want to kiss you after you've sucked them off.
03:21:06.680
I don't mind what they don't, like, what they dislike.
03:21:10.960
If they don't like their own cum, I'm just like, okay.
03:21:26.420
You gave them head, but they kind of had like a sexual hang-up about...
03:21:31.020
Like, they didn't want to make out right after you gave them...
03:21:39.060
I think, like, if I, like, did a good job and didn't want to do it afterwards, I would,
03:21:46.540
Because I feel like kissing and making out is kind of like a kind of thank you.
03:21:50.180
But if they just said thank you and gave me a hug, that'd be nice.
03:22:00.340
I think this all matters if you're dating a guy or not.
03:22:02.500
If you're dating a guy or not, you would expect him to kiss you back because you're in a relationship.
03:22:10.000
Or, like, you know, you don't have to kiss me, but maybe, like, comment on my technique.
03:22:18.640
But if it's just on the lips, a simple smack or a kiss on the forehead, that'd be nice.
03:22:24.600
I mean, if that's their boundary, then I respect that.
03:22:29.360
I think I'd be more disappointed if it was, like, a relationship situation.
03:22:38.100
I'm not going to force someone to taste their own nut.
03:22:43.480
Like, different strokes from different folks, but I have a praise king, so let me know I
03:22:47.100
did a good job, whether it's, like, you know, kissing me on the forehead, like, pulling
03:23:01.080
I mean, like, who's making out after you just got your dick sucked and came already?
03:23:08.240
Would you give a simple peck on the cheek or on the lips?
03:23:16.360
Your girlfriend's going down on you, but you're not going to finish in her mouth.
03:23:30.660
If I didn't finish, I'd probably make out with her.
03:23:33.960
But in the back of my mind, I am going to be thinking, like, I got my dick juice in
03:23:47.380
You could shower beforehand and still feel a little.
03:23:53.600
But I am thinking in the back of my head, like, my dick was just in your mouth and now
03:23:59.740
But what if you just, like, choke her and she goes on top of you and then you just
03:24:08.380
She's just seeing a whole bunch of sexual scenarios right now.
03:24:19.820
So, you're saying, like, if she, she goes down on you but you're not going to come
03:24:29.900
Yeah, she gets down and then you're like, oh, my God, yeah, come on, come on.
03:24:32.720
And then you just make out and then she just rides you and then the end.
03:24:39.600
Even if, like, so for sex, she's gone down on me.
03:24:48.880
Honestly, I don't like kissing a girl after she's gone down on me.
03:24:53.840
Even if I fucking showered right before, I just, I don't like it.
03:24:56.540
It's a, call it a sexual hang up, but I just don't like it.
03:25:00.740
Yeah, if I, like, didn't have to do it, I probably wouldn't.
03:25:11.940
But what if she goes in for a kiss with tongue?
03:25:13.860
Then would you, what if she goes in for the kiss with tongue?
03:25:27.540
Of course, she's getting on top because that's the only position I fucking do, right?
03:25:43.140
She's down, like, she's over here on my hair pull, boom, on the side.
03:25:49.800
Yeah, I don't like if she's upright when she's riding.
03:25:52.660
You don't like looking into each other's eyes or something?
03:25:57.840
No, so I'll just be kissing on her neck or, like, sucking on her earlobe or something
03:26:10.600
Yeah, little gentle kisses on the neck and in her ear talking, you know, so.
03:26:36.580
Eric, can you try to just Google the Prisoner Exchange, Prisoner Exchange, Brittany Griner.
03:26:41.840
So, we exchanged the Merchant of Death, I think was his name.
03:26:48.320
It was a Russian arms dealer for a WNBA player.
03:27:03.400
By the way, she, you know what's fucking crazy?
03:27:06.200
We, she got in trouble for, I don't know if you guys are familiar, Brittany Griner, WNBA
03:27:10.320
She was in Russia training with, I don't know, for a team or something.
03:27:17.500
Funnily enough, it's also, depending on what state you're in, it's illegal here.
03:27:23.460
So, there are people in the U.S. who are sitting in prison for marijuana-related crimes, and
03:27:29.740
we just did a prisoner exchange with Russia for someone who was, look, it was obviously
03:27:39.280
I just thought it was an uneven trade to begin with.
03:27:41.240
We need to legalize marijuana on the federal level.
03:27:43.760
If we're going to do a prisoner exchange with Russia for the merchant of death, because
03:27:47.900
she, her crime was possession of marijuana, it's ridiculous.
03:27:51.660
I think it was like, she had a cartridge, right?
03:27:54.680
I mean, it was obviously political, because the Ukraine war was going on, but like...
03:28:01.620
Let's see if you can find a reputable news source on this.
03:28:20.880
Don't you guys feel like social media should be, like, part of the reasons why, like, we
03:28:24.680
should blame that, because they brought so much news and attention to her being detained
03:28:32.840
In early 2022, she was arrested for the release of Victor Bout.
03:28:37.940
Click on the Victor Bout, Brittany Griner Prisoner Exchange.
03:28:51.260
Because I'm pretty sure this guy's called the Merchant of Death.
03:29:05.040
Bout gained the nicknames the Merchant of Death.
03:29:09.320
So, yeah, we traded this guy for a WNBA player, bruv.
03:29:21.800
Anyways, I just thought that was crazy, since we brought Brittany Griner up earlier.
03:29:31.200
I feel like social media can be a big blame for that, because we made it a big deal here,
03:29:39.020
This is my take, my opinion, but she no only brought marijuana into a country that has really
03:29:43.640
strict drug laws, knowing the consequences for that.
03:29:47.900
But, you know, she's an American, and we have to stand by all of our Americans as a country.
03:29:57.060
All right, let's get these other soup chats here.
03:30:12.280
I understood every single word, but not together.
03:30:20.560
So, he's saying that we're dissing ourselves because we post on OnlyFans?
03:30:24.380
Do you want to fire shots back at Elder Scrolls333?
03:30:28.220
It's only one, like, a SoundCloud artist, because why would they be quoting?
03:31:04.940
So, you got to change up your currency there, sir.
03:31:13.440
No, I was just telling you to pronounce your last name.
03:31:26.180
There's a male teacher from my town that had basically exactly the same situation as Brittany
03:31:29.920
Griner and is sitting in a Russian prison for medical marijuana, and he wasn't even talked
03:31:34.540
about, yeah, I mean, I'm surprised that they did a one-for-one exchange for that guy, like,
03:31:45.560
Obviously, there was, I don't know, it doesn't make any sense to me.
03:31:49.400
You can't, like, how are you going to continue to have marijuana federally, is it a schedule
03:31:56.840
I don't even smoke weed, but it's just, I mean, that's just ridiculous.
03:31:59.220
Um, okay, so, you had something that you wanted to talk about, if I recall.
03:32:08.740
Oh, I was, we were talking about, um, the wage gap.
03:32:12.900
And so, I was just wondering, I just wanted to get into the topic, but, like, what do you
03:32:21.900
Like, I understand, like, um, the draft, for instance, but I was wondering what other.
03:32:29.220
Um, so, do you, do you want me to go, or do you want me to go?
03:32:39.340
Normally, I'd like to have this just flow from my brain, but I, I, I wrote down a list
03:32:47.000
So, yes, men are the exclusive subjects to military conscription.
03:32:53.440
So, men are more, far more likely to die in war.
03:32:55.860
However, on that note, men throughout all of, all of human existence have been 99.999%
03:33:03.320
Um, and, you know, I would argue that men, just in the context of warfare, just on this
03:33:09.240
sole grievance, I would say that the suffering men have experienced when it comes to warfare
03:33:14.660
outweighs all of women's collective grievances probably a thousand times over.
03:33:22.560
You might not like to hear that, but like, I'd encourage all of you to watch All Quiet
03:33:35.120
That film cannot even begin to capture the degree to which men have exclusively suffered
03:33:42.640
And so, not to say that women haven't faced their, their own specifically women, uh, specifically
03:33:49.440
female disadvantages, but war is like on a totally other level, um, relate, somewhat related to
03:33:57.120
Men are more likely to have post-traumatic stress disorder.
03:34:01.220
80% of the homeless are men, uh, of the people who are homeless.
03:34:08.080
So, when women are homeless, they're much more likely to get into shelters.
03:34:12.060
They're much more likely to be homeless, but in a car, for example.
03:34:15.700
The people that you often see sleeping on the street when it's cold, generally speaking,
03:34:37.880
Men are more likely to have harsher conditions when incarcerated.
03:34:41.520
Men are more likely to be in solitary confinement.
03:34:44.060
Men are more likely to receive the death penalty.
03:34:47.140
Men are more likely to be prosecuted than women for the same crime.
03:34:50.920
Men are more likely to receive harsher punishment than women for the same crime.
03:34:55.560
Men are more likely to be the victim of a violent crime.
03:34:59.760
Men are more likely to be the victim of police misconduct, police brutality, and police killing.
03:35:05.520
Men are more likely to be falsely accused of a crime.
03:35:08.140
Men are more likely to be victim to a miscarriage of justice.
03:35:11.040
Men are more likely to be wrongfully convicted of a crime.
03:35:30.760
Men are less likely to graduate from high school.
03:35:39.980
Men are more likely to drop out of high school.
03:35:44.060
men are more likely to be divorced by their partner men are more likely to pay child support men are
03:35:49.560
more likely to pay alimony men have fewer social safety nets men die earlier than women it's about
03:35:55.240
five years i think it's more in some countries uh here's a big one men have their penises mutilated
03:36:00.940
at birth in a vast majority of western countries it's not all countries but a lot of western
03:36:06.760
countries there's circumcision and there's certainly female genital mutilation in some
03:36:11.600
countries but male circumcision is much more practice than a female circumcision men are the
03:36:18.540
exclusive victims of paternity fraud men have no reproductive rights men have no abuse or domestic
03:36:25.620
violence shelters gay men are more likely to be victim of a hate crime men are less likely to get
03:36:31.240
custody of their children boys are more likely to die from child maltreatment boys are more likely to
03:36:36.980
be victims of infanticide boys are less likely to be adopted men are more likely to die without
03:36:42.960
having children men are more likely to die as virgins men are less likely to reproduce historically
03:36:48.460
reproductive success was 17 to 1 in women's favor men are more likely to be body shamed without any
03:36:55.800
repercussions to the shamer men are more likely to be body shamed for traits out of their control
03:37:01.340
and men are discriminated discriminated against due to diversity quotas that's that's a few and i
03:37:08.200
understand that i feel really bad to be a man on in this world i'm not gonna lie there is a lot of
03:37:13.600
pains you guys suffer through but my point being is that women didn't create these and men created these
03:37:19.440
issues some of these issues a lot of the issues i think that a lot of this is based on the patriarchy
03:37:26.340
well there's i reject that there's a patriarchy but you reject that there's i reject that there's
03:37:32.280
a patriarchy yes wow but you're also a traditionalist when it comes to like dating as well i'm not really
03:37:38.100
a traditionalist because i don't pay for women on on dates that's true i guess the point i'm trying to
03:37:44.220
make is that i don't think women are um denying a lot of women are denying any of these facts it's true
03:37:51.920
it feels really bad to be a man in this world absolutely but the thing is that we're advocating
03:37:58.000
for equality we're marching but the thing is that we're fighting for like bodily autonomy for instance
03:38:04.100
right but yeah for sure we can take a break and like march for not going into a draft i guess for a
03:38:10.680
couple minutes that's the draft has existed since the beginning of this country and i've never seen
03:38:17.080
i'm not sure if you're talking about feminists or you're talking about women i've never seen
03:38:22.700
a mass movement of women advocating for there not to be a draft or to equalize the draft i feel like
03:38:29.880
the draft is not a popular opinion most people don't want a draft there was a huge movement against
03:38:34.760
the draft during the vietnam war that's for sure too okay okay
03:38:41.460
we still have the draft and it's still mail in 2022 an 18 year old boy i should say an 18 year old man
03:38:52.120
is has to register and also when it comes to the draft you might say well what's the likelihood that
03:38:58.260
there would be a draft but every 18 year old man has to register for the for the selective service
03:39:05.200
and if you don't technically it's a felony that could be prosecuted there's a 250 000 fine
03:39:11.920
i i i don't want to i want to straw man the other sorry i want to uh steel man the other side here
03:39:18.540
has someone in recent history been prosecuted for uh not registering for the draft or sorry not
03:39:25.840
registering for the selective service no it's not really being prosecuted but there are other
03:39:31.540
negative consequences if you don't for example that you won't get you can't apply for federal
03:39:38.240
loans for college if you aren't registered for the selective service you will be denied certain
03:39:44.720
federal jobs there's there's a few others that aren't coming to me right now but there are definitely
03:39:50.540
other disadvantages to the draft like i just mentioned not is not a popular opinion
03:40:00.040
why do you think that only men are drafted why do i think only men are drafted probably because
03:40:07.440
we're more capable men are better soldiers you don't think that that's like a patriarchal idea
03:40:14.480
i mean i think patriarch is just the natural way of like human survival well i think it's a biological
03:40:19.340
reality if you if you look at physical strength upper upper body strength i mean i i don't i don't
03:40:27.080
imagine that this is going to be a controversial take men broadly speaking have more muscle than
03:40:34.060
women they're stronger generally speaking than women are there some women that are stronger than men
03:40:38.920
yes but like generally speaking men are stronger than women if you believe that's true then why does
03:40:44.360
it strike you as unfair that only men are drafted i don't understand why does it well i you know the
03:40:52.620
thing is is that i think it's it would be wishful thinking for me to say that we should do away with
03:40:58.060
the draft because that would create an equality between men and women if just nobody could get
03:41:02.300
drafted but the reality is there could be some scenario where we would we would need to draft upon
03:41:11.280
people to defend the country whether that be a threat from russia whether that be a threat from china i
03:41:19.480
don't who knows threat from fucking aliens i don't know there could be aliens coming military budget
03:41:25.320
we have one of the largest if not the largest military budget in the whole wide world i'm sure
03:41:30.520
we could round up the weapons or the manpower to do it if people are paid enough we could also only draft
03:41:35.960
able-bodied people regardless of gender which i think is what feminists and women who advocate for
03:41:42.220
gender equality already believe it and advocate for it's actually in your interest it's it's not in
03:41:48.920
it's not in anybody's interest to do that we're gonna have a week aren't we yeah i don't i don't
03:41:53.320
think there should be a draft but i mean i'm just saying like that's better than only drafting men
03:41:58.360
well i i mean from a pure equality standpoint i think women should be subject for male military
03:42:05.240
conscription but not that would be equality but yeah don't women are not in the streets saying we want
03:42:14.200
equality we want to be drafted i think it's because when it comes to drafting people think
03:42:20.760
oh you're gonna go get drafted boom front lines it's over when really drafting could just be like
03:42:25.800
oh you're getting drafted okay there's another job that you could do because i don't think like every
03:42:29.320
role in the military is purely marshall you know so like honestly i think that if women were to be
03:42:35.160
drafted i feel like it's in everyone's best interest to be like okay let's look at each person be like
03:42:39.320
where are you capable of this role go to that role like i mean if you're getting drafted that
03:42:43.720
means like some serious shits going yeah if there's a draft you're getting sent to die so it's usually
03:42:47.480
the front lines right or is it like well the thing is like i mean it's just a biological reality that
03:42:54.440
men are better soldiers yeah physically stronger like reaction time like i mean they've done a ton of
03:43:01.960
they've done a lot of studies on this like unit cohesion if like if it's just like
03:43:10.200
yeah if you believe that men make better soldiers why do you believe that women should also be
03:43:14.360
drafted because equal well i personally don't well well because of equality i mean i'm an egalitarian
03:43:24.120
i believe in gender equality he's kind of pointing out the hypocrisy of like women that claim to be
03:43:29.400
fighting for equality that only pick and choose equality that benefits them yeah i think a lot of
03:43:35.400
us would agree with that though like that's why a lot of us don't go for full-on gender equality exactly
03:43:40.600
and i think that's the issue a lot of people assume that all women want gender equality and all women
03:43:47.000
are feminists just because we're women and that's not necessarily the case i mean i just mean extreme
03:43:52.360
feminism like in all the stereotypes they just push that onto everyone i mean extreme feminists are the
03:43:57.000
loudest in the room always so makes sense but i mean i forgot if it was you who raised this point
03:44:02.360
that there could be other positions in the military that it might not be a combat role but that women could
03:44:10.200
uh contribute towards so i still think you know there still would be an inequality there because it
03:44:20.200
probably predominantly like if there was a front line i'd say it would be mostly men that are just
03:44:25.080
being put through the meat grinder of of war but i mean could they help with the war effort could they
03:44:30.680
be contributing some you know i mean also the way uh warfare is done now is very different than it was
03:44:37.400
in like world war one world war two with a trench warfare like so it's changed pretty dramatically so
03:44:45.000
um but i mean it's a good we still could i mean the country could still use your
03:44:49.480
you're basically you're essentially your cheap labor so but um so just to bring it back though
03:44:58.680
you were talking about the patriarchy right i was just talking about how a lot of the system
03:45:05.240
it's men making men do a lot of these things it's not women making men
03:45:09.800
well that's not true there is some sort of i'm sorry what were you saying
03:45:13.880
well you you were saying that there's the patriarchy and kind of i i went through i mean
03:45:21.000
i don't know how it took me three minutes to get through that entire list that a lot of these i think
03:45:25.400
you were suggesting that a lot of these things that i was saying is well it's it's it's bad but men you
03:45:33.000
have yourselves to blame is that what i'm getting from that and i'm no and what i'm trying to say is
03:45:37.560
that women are on your guys's side like i think it's a really sucky thing that but it's not like the
03:45:42.520
women caused it but it's not clear to me like because women aren't the law make oh women did
03:45:49.160
not make the decision to draft all men to the army right like we didn't really have that power back then
03:45:54.120
like i i agree with you because in in this sense like a lot of these things exist because of beliefs
03:46:00.600
that women are not perpetuating like this idea for example that men make better soldiers therefore
03:46:06.360
only men should be drafted like women should be protected and can't be soldiers that's not an idea
03:46:10.920
that women came up with that's a pretty sexist notion debunking that i mean actually benefits men
03:46:16.360
i mean biology is sexist and they've the military has done extensive studies on this and men do make
03:46:25.000
better soldiers what is the hypocrisy that you're trying to point out then if you believe that
03:46:30.840
biologically men make better soldiers are you and why why does it bother you then the feminists are not
03:46:35.800
advocating for gender equality in the draft hold on there's or do you not want the draft like i'm very
03:46:40.280
confused well okay better soldiers so there's no good i mean because like we need okay so i
03:46:48.680
would it in an ideal world should there just be no war yes however i realize that there could be
03:46:56.280
some scenario would is warfare terrible would the draft suck yes but there would there could conceivably
03:47:04.840
be scenarios where a draft is required so i'm not i'm not really for getting rid of it because
03:47:14.680
if if a country can't draft like it would open the country up to i mean it would just honestly if it
03:47:22.920
was that bad there would probably be martial law and they just throw people in the military i don't
03:47:26.600
i don't know how that constitutionally i don't know how that would work ultimately we need a draft because
03:47:33.000
there are threats there are threats from other countries okay so you think the draft is a good
03:47:38.760
idea then he's saying i think he's saying that it's necessary men and women should necessary evil i
03:47:44.440
understand now yes a draft is necessary yeah it really sucks that you guys potentially have to do
03:47:49.400
something that's a huge risk that you guys well look at what happened in ukraine all of the women were
03:47:54.360
free to leave the country and all of the men between the ages of 18 to 60 could not leave they could not
03:48:01.640
leave so you know it's happening ukraine is so sad it's really sad situation it's very sad it's incredibly
03:48:11.560
sad and most of the people are dying are men actually i said i don't want to pull it up because it'd
03:48:17.880
probably get us banned on youtube but someone made a compilation video of all these ukrainian women who
03:48:24.360
went off to fucking sweden or some other country that was safe right they're on tinder in the club
03:48:32.520
partying while they're while they're countrymen there's it's literally a photo comparison are dead
03:48:40.120
on the ground with bullet holes in their head that's the difference and there's no feminists when
03:48:46.120
fucking russia invades let me tell you that you can't be feminist when russia's invading your country
03:48:53.720
what does that have to do with feminism i mean i'd to point out like the hypocrisy like people a lot
03:48:59.560
of people have an issue with is like feminists will say like oh we need more women represented in like
03:49:05.560
like fortune 500 company ceos or like hollywood directors or like and all these like like high
03:49:12.520
like paying fields but it's like you don't hear women saying like oh we need to even like the
03:49:17.800
amount of like female plumbers there are we need to even the amount of like people working in the
03:49:23.240
fucking power poles and stuff like they only like argue for the positions that are going to benefit them
03:49:30.040
but they ignore the all the other inequalities that's kind of what like a big problem a lot of
03:49:34.920
people have with venom and feminism i can see that no i can see that and also i feel like
03:49:40.280
representation is a very like complex subject because there's a strong assumption that if you
03:49:45.880
are represented you automatically have power but like what does that power look like and does that
03:49:51.160
power actually help what's going on like you know for example like asian representation as is super
03:49:56.360
important in media right now but like is asian representation gonna help you know like low-income
03:50:02.120
asian families like is that like is watching crazy rich asians going to help that so like when it
03:50:07.000
comes to like you know when it comes to the um to the conversation of feminism and like representation
03:50:12.120
even in itself i don't even know if people understand representation as it is
03:50:18.680
i'm personally wholly against like rep like caring about representation of like what people look like
03:50:24.440
in their ethnic backgrounds like we need like diversity of like thought not people like where people
03:50:30.120
were born and where their parents were born like i don't i just don't focus on that i i want to bring
03:50:35.400
it back to the patriot patriarchy thing because you you brought that up um so can you just kind of
03:50:42.040
reiterate what so i listed all the things and you said well that's because of patriarchy okay and
03:50:51.000
okay so i'm sorry i was waiting for a question oh well yeah so you're i mean you're basically saying
03:50:55.480
well yes it's it's men have it bad in all these ways but because other men are doing it to you
03:51:03.080
but it's not clear to me that they are historically a man has signed legislation to make it happen
03:51:13.480
and it's most women aren't like i think that's a weird example because it's kind of necessary
03:51:20.680
for the draft like women are not advocating we're not like we're signing it we're keeping the draft
03:51:25.720
like no no one's doing that no one's doing that i guarantee you on both sides of the aisle
03:51:32.120
whether they're republican or democratic politicians there's not going to be a push anytime soon from
03:51:39.320
any women whether republican or democrat to be trying to abolish the draft or to equalize the draft between
03:51:47.160
men and women if there was a march to eradicate the draft i would march in it to well okay but that's
03:51:54.520
like i mentioned earlier there was a huge push to abolish the draft during the vietnam war and it was
03:51:59.160
both men and women who participated sure yeah definitely if it becomes relevant again we'll see
03:52:05.560
the same thing happen okay i agree i would agree on that i would agree on that but okay so you have
03:52:13.160
nukes we also have nukes nukes are fun right not fun oh god i mean you could argue that nukes are kind of
03:52:20.760
like one of like one of the one of the worst things ever invented but uh on on one hand it's kind
03:52:28.680
of given us some peace but on the other hand it's a it's a pretty substantial existential threat you
03:52:35.720
know like yeah yeah like mutually assured destruction and like she said nukes are fun
03:52:43.320
like hiroshima nagasaki they weren't having fun like how did man build something like this i'm a big
03:52:49.080
science person yeah okay so let's talk talk about the patriarchy okay so what is the patriarchy
03:52:55.160
well i'm not i'm not here to describe what is the picture i'm just here to just say i use
03:52:59.640
patriarchy as a definition to just display like we didn't make the draft that's all i'm trying to
03:53:06.120
say with that okay okay but like just because someone is a man doesn't mean they did something
03:53:17.800
because they are a man just because they did something doesn't mean they like just because
03:53:23.880
of just because a man does a bad thing it doesn't mean he did that because he's a man or vice versa
03:53:30.840
of course i think he just happened to be a man in power who made that decision at the time
03:53:35.000
like because people in government were mainly men who wrote that right is that what you're trying to say
03:53:46.040
i mean it makes logical sense to like have a draft because it's like
03:53:50.040
we have we built this country and it's like we have to defend it like if it comes down to it
03:53:55.480
it's absolutely human construction right like we defined it it wasn't like cavemen we're gonna draft
03:54:01.000
everyone if it came to like you know it came i mean i would say the reason men are drafted is because
03:54:07.800
of like human history and the cavemen like if women nature yeah if women were the ones hunting and
03:54:13.720
gathering back in the day like you guys would probably be stronger than us now but that's not how
03:54:18.520
nature played well yeah even even before society was really organized as it is today i mean people
03:54:24.200
had there was tribal warfare and shit yeah so and if you were a dude here's a spear
03:54:32.200
i think what reyna was maybe trying to say was that like the draft is just one example but some of
03:54:37.160
these policies when they were enacted maybe were you trying to say that the politicians were mostly it's
03:54:43.800
the politicians blame it's not like a man versus woman issue it's like we're not focusing on
03:54:48.040
individual men and saying they deserve to do whatever because they're a man i think she was
03:54:51.960
trying to say that the leaders were men at the time sure what i was trying to say was that these men
03:54:57.720
signed these things into law because they were motivated by like ideas of gender that money as well
03:55:04.760
well actually they've done art they they would say outdated you know what they actually did an
03:55:11.560
analysis of uh like reigning women and mar uh queens and stuff and they actually found that queens were
03:55:18.040
more likely to go to war than than male rulers were believe it or not what do you mean like like female
03:55:26.040
female rulers like queens were actually more more uh war hungry can you give me can we have an example
03:55:34.840
i don't know any of the the names of any of the the monarchs but um i'm pretty sure if you like
03:55:40.200
you could probably google it like it something like women female queen there's obviously it has to be
03:55:46.840
female queen queens were more likely to go to war than kings i'm sure on like a proportion like yeah eric
03:55:54.200
do you want to google it should we should we google it like perhaps cleopatra yeah we see chat
03:56:01.960
bloody mary queen's more likely to go to war can you google it eric
03:56:12.200
um there's something from the university of chicago there's a study by the university of
03:56:17.080
chicago eric it might be the first one let me know do you have it
03:56:34.040
uh do states experience more peace under female leadership we examine this question
03:56:39.800
in the context of europe over the 15th to 20th centuries we instrument queenly rule using gender
03:56:45.320
of the firstborn whether the previous monarchs had a sister we find that polities led by queens
03:56:51.400
participate in war more than polities let polities i've never heard that one led by kings moreover
03:56:57.800
aggressive participation varied by marital status single queens were attacked more than single kings
03:57:03.880
however married queens attacked more than married kings these results suggest that asymmetries and the
03:57:09.320
division of labor positioned married queens to be able to pursue more aggressive war policies
03:57:18.360
that's just one example i don't know but it said 39 percent in the google thing it says 39
03:57:24.760
more likely to engage in war in a given year i didn't know that's very interesting intriguing thank
03:57:29.720
yeah yeah y'all queens just be going at it going for war um but uh so but let's just i want to kind
03:57:39.640
of get back to dating for a little bit and then wrap up but um you mentioned patriarchy do do we
03:57:44.760
currently live in the patriarchy i don't know enough about the topic well we can open up to the rest of
03:57:50.840
the panel do you guys think we live in a patriarchy i think we live in capitalism but that's true
03:57:59.160
so i agree with that he's kind of out of the picture for me right now yeah women are doing like
03:58:04.760
killing it like how i mean we got women at this table out earning us yeah and just and like women
03:58:13.000
are out graduating men in college so it's like they're doing better in school like not going to jail as
03:58:19.000
much so it's like women are kind of killing it i think it's like 60 40 in universities i heard it was
03:58:24.920
worse i heard 70 30. i guess it depends on the university but uh anyone i think that we do live
03:58:32.280
in a patriarchy but patriarchy does not necessarily mean that men have it better i'm pretty sure the
03:58:37.800
patriarchy pretty much over everyone and we're seeing that in society and it really sucks because
03:58:44.680
i think the patriarchy hurts everyone they fuck over everyone but but what is the patriarchy what is
03:58:50.360
that um how do you define it so i think how i would um define patriarchy is pretty much um i guess almost
03:58:59.240
a policy i guess it's a philosophy where um that positions men in a higher um place of power with
03:59:06.440
certain expectations but it just so happens i mean in my opinion and those expectations actually harm men
03:59:12.760
okay i would i would say for me my definition of patriarchy is that it's this idea or this
03:59:20.840
construction of gender roles that are intended to benefit men intended to i'm not saying that it
03:59:28.280
always does i think it often hurts men but it's the creation of these gender roles these boxes and
03:59:33.800
expectations for people based on gender are we going around right now sort of kind of a little bit
03:59:43.560
well i i mean what i've often seen uh i think the definition is like a system or society or government
03:59:50.360
in which men hold the power and women are largely excluded from it or i often hear a society built by men
03:59:58.840
for men i don't think it's always for men i think that's an extremist view okay so i think i would
04:00:06.360
agree with that definition but with the caveat that like um with like i guess like because like power
04:00:13.160
is not like you know you get power and it's completely harm free there are so many stories in
04:00:18.120
media that tell you hey this is what happens when you have power it's it's hard so like and men suffer
04:00:24.680
from that yeah like patriarchal concepts are ingrained into our culture so you mentioned for
04:00:29.800
example that men commit suicide at higher rates i think that's an incredibly sad phenomenon and i think
04:00:35.240
that it's because of patriarchy these expectations these gendered expectations result in men not being
04:00:41.800
able to talk about their feelings with each other or like reach out for emotional support and that
04:00:47.240
results in higher rates of suicide because like the patriarchal like like um definition of power
04:00:54.280
is being independent and not having a support network and thinking that all success comes from
04:00:59.080
the individual when in reality is a lot of success is made from having a support network
04:01:05.480
i think it's it's the patriarchy is kind of what i i consider to be the apex fallacy you're looking
04:01:11.960
at a very very very small percentage of men who are at the very top and who do probably have a
04:01:19.160
disproportionate amount of power and influence but you're disregarding like 99 plus of the ordinary man
04:01:29.240
who has absolutely no power and it's just like you're you're you're looking at the very top percentage
04:01:35.480
of men are you defining power based on how much people are suffering i mean power is like financial
04:01:42.040
influential like like political mainly because like i feel like when it comes to the whole like
04:01:50.280
because i don't think that saying that a patriarch exists actually um i don't think it actually
04:01:55.480
downplays the the pain of like you know regular people like regular men i think that it's evidence that
04:02:02.120
men are suffering like you know back to the suicidal rate like i think the patriarchal definition of power
04:02:09.160
is having like not like having like you know expressing no feelings being you know suffering
04:02:14.840
by yourself you know being independent and doing all that but like i feel like patriarchy established
04:02:22.360
that and it and i don't know if men established that but like that's terrible for men
04:02:28.520
the patriarchy didn't like isn't a social construct like like you do realize
04:02:38.920
like human beings are like like almost like 300 000 years old and it's like we had to survive for
04:02:46.200
all that time and like without technology without walls and like roofs over our heads and electricity
04:02:52.600
and water it's like there's hundreds of thousands of years of history that you're just kind of not
04:02:56.760
accounting for like and why things are the way they are well i went for technology i think it's important
04:03:04.040
to adjust for technology adjust how like how would you say like what would adjusting be to you it's
04:03:11.240
important to not entirely compare like apples to apples with like what happened in the past and adjust
04:03:17.320
with like different rationale just because we have a lot more advancements right now where we don't need
04:03:23.320
like you're not going to go out and like get me a stake right like you know i mean like from i see what you're
04:03:29.080
saying like times are changing and like things have advanced but it's like i don't believe that
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humans biology will change just because like a smartphone was invented and like we have internet
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now like our core instincts are still based on hundreds of thousands of years of evolution yeah where
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people protect each other um i was gonna say that um i think the patriarchy has like it's not a
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social construct but it has very social consequences and that's what i was mainly talking about
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i'm the thing is is that like i'm still trying to really because everyone has a different sense of
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what the patriarchy is it's sort of this nebulous term so like what what is it what is the patriarchy
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i think it's a type of philosophy but what what is that um the philosophy that um men are deserving
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of more power so therefore men should be granted more power which men because very few men have power
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so the people who made patriarchy is that 0.00001 of men who are exceeding and like yeah i would agree
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that like the patriarchy also over the regular men and like when women say that a patriarchy exists
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we are not trying to dismiss like dismiss the pain of the regular man but so isn't it more a class
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thing than it is a gender thing like it's the people in power and like well i mean the elites yeah like
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i mean it kind of depends on what kind of philosophy that you subscribe to like your your line of thinking
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is actually somewhat similar to what it would be similar to marxism because marxism would say that
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you know when it comes to you know suffering it's class struggle and like things like gender or
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whatever is part of the secondary structure so it's not direct well well i would say this when it comes
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to class i would say that a poor man and a poor woman have far more in common than does a rich man
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and a rich sorry i just butchered this hold on i thought it's okay it's okay i didn't completely
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that's very socialist no well uh i often hear it said like working class hero no i often have here
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it said that a poor black man and a poor white man have far more in common than does a rich white oh my
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god i've already butchered it than does a poor black man and a rich black man
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marxist brian yeah so it's like if y'all both got money then race doesn't matter all of a sudden
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basically that's a pretty marxist take actually because you know things like race religion um
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spirituality like when it comes to marx he's like no that's not the source of struggle it's money
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hence big capitalism eric can you pull up the ussr national anthem what we got why not the
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communist manifesto it's a really short reading it's like class solidarity y'all in this 40 hours
04:06:35.320
what the foot i'd rather have a little like unfairness than like just like everyone getting
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the same which never turns out that way yeah but i like when it comes to patriarchy right i guess
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the point i'm trying to make is that it's not like yes it maybe it is men who do occupy
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some of these higher positions of power politics corporations i mean there's there's a few reasons
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there's reasons why that could be beyond theorized sexism but for example i don't know if you guys have
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heard there's there's this uh greater male variability uh theory which states that
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men and women on average are equivalent in in terms of intelligence however when you look at the uh
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what's it called the bell curve sort of extremes if you look at the extremes you have a lot you have
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more men with genius iqs than you do have women but you also have a ton of stoop you have much more
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stupid stupid stupid men than you have stupid stupid women so on both sides you have men who
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are just like insanely high iqs there's more of them than there are women and there's also much more
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men with insanely low iqs than there are women with insanely low iqs interesting the average is the same
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the average is the same it's called the greater male variability hypothesis or some
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or theory or something like that would you guys fuck a feminist
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uh yeah i'd do it if she was hot if she was really hot right just a one night stand
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pussy is pussy i'd an egalitarian but a feminist that's
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you're i don't know probably most of the women yeah very good principles brian i gotta give you
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props yeah i mean it's it depends though because a lot of women don't even really
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if you ask a woman like you ask two women what feminism means they'll give you different answers
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yeah definitely so like and a lot of women will just like tokenly identify as feminist and they're just
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like oh i believe in gender equality well here's the thing feminism isn't about hot take of the night
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feminism is not an equality movement yes i agree feminine feminism is a in its most charitable
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sense it's a woman's advocacy movement it's not a equality movement because and we've sort of touched on
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this where women do not stand to benefit from a a type of equality feminists will not fight for said equality
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i don't know if i if i articulated that correctly but i feel like feminism would actually fight for hey
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is this going to benefit men and women and is it ethical because like i guess i like the tokenizing
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i feel like that's not true feminism because if you're gonna tokenize like that you're gonna get
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a bunch of men getting mad at you and that just ruins the whole purpose like every like i feel like
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feminism really is an advocate for everyone everyone feminism is a women's advocacy movement and there's
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nothing wrong with women's advocacy or women's rights but to try to portray feminism as an equality
04:10:07.720
movement is on its face just it's erroneous i would agree with that but i feel like feminism is not like
04:10:14.840
oh yeah women advocacy dump men it's more like we're gonna support women and support men it doesn't
04:10:20.440
mean we're gonna you know dump on them it's like they're helping women and then helping women also
04:10:25.240
helps the men everyone wins so i'll just add to that real quick so like in scenarios where women would
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not stand to benefit from equality feminists will not pursue said equality and actually to the contrary
04:10:40.440
feminists will actually fight to maintain inequality if that inequality comes to the detriment of women
04:10:51.720
or or if the inequality benefits women i did i i might have said that wrong
04:10:57.240
whatever i mean feminism is already hurting men like there's like affirmative action preferential
04:11:03.800
hiring like that's a real thing already here's another one in florida there was a bill that was
04:11:09.080
attempted to get passed where um it was for shared custody of children so a presumption upon like say
04:11:17.000
there's a divorce a presumption that it should be 50 50 split custody that to me sounds like equality both
04:11:24.040
the father and the mother get shared because it's it's uh the default whereas oftentimes in court
04:11:30.520
systems custody does defaults to the mother in florida fem uh the elite one of the leading feminist
04:11:38.360
organizations it's called the national organization for women probably the leading feminist organization
04:11:43.480
in the country fought against that because it would technically come to the detriment of women
04:11:50.520
women to not get primary custody i actually am going through something personal with that i actually
04:11:59.400
think it's terrible that you know if because like when women get primary custody it doesn't allow
04:12:06.360
people to critically think about whether the mother is the suitable parent i think custody should be
04:12:10.600
given to whichever parent is the most healthy for the kids and if you just assume that it's the mother
04:12:15.400
like that's not fair and if it doesn't benefit i mean let's think about the kids here man like it's
04:12:21.000
the kids that are going through this and like you can have perfectly capable fathers not get custody and
04:12:26.680
that's not fair and the mother could be abusive i completely agree with your take on that and for a
04:12:30.600
woman to be like oh you know if women don't benefit if she doesn't get primary custody that's
04:12:36.600
bullshit the modern day feminists are actively fighting against that so that's not a feminist for me that's a
04:12:42.200
bitch well it's kind of like the no true scotsman like well that's not my feminism but like if you
04:12:48.680
look at the major feminist organizations they are fighting against a lot of these things that would
04:12:56.920
give or what that would bring equality but they're fighting against it yeah that's up word it's usually
04:13:03.880
the more like extreme side of feminism as well yeah like they have the loudest voice like you mentioned
04:13:08.920
earlier yeah but okay but the core tenant though of feminism is patriarchy theory that is the core
04:13:16.680
tenant of feminism and by the way i i mean we i reject the patriarchy theory it is just that a theory
04:13:25.640
and theories are not necessarily truth or fact so i mean i reject it um so i i accept the theory but the
04:13:38.520
way that certain women if you were saying is correct have applied it that's not the way to apply it
04:13:44.600
because i i think the patriarchy exists but since it does exist at least in my opinion i think i think
04:13:51.880
it hurts everyone and like i really i mean honestly i really wish that feminism would not be construed as
04:13:58.840
like oh you know women get all the benefits and men just suffer because if women got all the benefits
04:14:04.200
that fucks everybody anyway you know i feel like everyone should win well i mean could i potentially
04:14:11.480
challenge you to instead of defining yourself as a feminist define yourself as an egalitarian
04:14:20.520
i mean as if anyone here considers considers themselves a feminist would you mind looking at the
04:14:26.360
definition of the definition of feminism for me i mean sure i can google it feminism uh the advocacy
04:14:33.880
of women's rights on the basis of the equality of the equality of the sexes
04:14:41.080
so equality i mean that's kind of what i said the advocacy of women's rights
04:14:49.160
equality is kind of a interesting term because there's equality and then there's equity
04:14:53.960
equality because equality for me personally it's for me personally it's kind of tough for me to like
04:15:00.280
support it sometimes because it's like sometimes if you do just equal all all the way around it
04:15:05.240
doesn't allow for critical thinking i don't like equity i don't like equity that's i believe i believe
04:15:11.880
in equality of opportunity but equality i mean the scary thing is is our society is trending towards equity it's
04:15:19.320
that's literally like preferential hiring like literally just trying to force it to be equal and
04:15:24.760
i don't agree with that but could i challenge you guys to consider yourselves egalitarians instead of
04:15:33.880
feminists sure what sources would you recommend like are there any books that you would recommend on
04:15:39.240
egalitarianism uh well i feel like a lot of this stuff is typically either viewed from a male lens or a
04:15:44.520
female lens but i did i mean i did do an interview with i mean he's more like i'd say he's an egalitarian
04:15:51.160
but i did an interview with warren farrell he used to be a feminist um but now he's more of like a male
04:15:57.720
advocate um he wrote a book the boy crisis he's been interviewed by oprah and all these people um
04:16:06.360
yeah his book the boy crisis is pretty good the myth of male power there's there's a whole bunch of
04:16:12.680
books on the topic sure i'll i would be glad to read up on it if it gives me more information i
04:16:18.120
think i will say though i think like with the whole like labels thing i think at the end of the day a
04:16:22.200
label is a generalization um i mean i'm really glad that i got to speak out on what i like personally
04:16:27.640
believe if it matches egalitarianism cool but like i'm not going to focus so much on labeling and just
04:16:33.240
kind of be more you know specific to what i want to what i support so yeah i'll actually look that up
04:16:38.680
thank you yeah we're wow we really kind of started talking about that that went off on the deep end
04:16:46.680
should we how do we bring it back to blow jobs now how do we start talking about what's your favorite
04:16:51.000
kink what's y'all's body count go oh oh man i was gonna ask that body count yeah i we can do body
04:16:58.360
count here why don't we start with you we'll go around the table um i guess 20. you guessed 20. yeah okay
04:17:12.600
what why the has it why the hesitation i don't know i'm just so tired yeah we're gonna wrap soon
04:17:19.880
uh it's the last show of the year you know have a little have a little fun guys like seven including
04:17:26.600
girls like 30. yeah i was gonna say for guys it would be six and then for girls it would be like 15.
04:17:36.280
uh i lost count after i went to a swingers party oh so um and yeah i lost count
04:17:45.000
range range oh okay i'm trying so like okay one two three oh including women too see like like i see
04:17:56.120
like honestly i think before the party it was kind of like maybe like three or four but then after the
04:18:01.880
party it's i don't know i forgot wait in one night you lost track i had a queue you had a you had a line
04:18:10.360
yeah there was a line was it just was it just you um i mean i mean there's like a few other there's a
04:18:17.560
queue yeah there was a queue they have to like pull numbers like are they naked while they're in the queue
04:18:21.480
or are they clothed while they're in the queue um well some are shirtless some are completely naked
04:18:25.960
like when you go to a singer's party it's kind of like you just wear whatever you want um i mean
04:18:30.360
when i say q is that like i'll be doing something with certain guys and then like the other guys would
04:18:34.920
be watching because they like to watch and then be like oh can i can i now touch you though and i'm like
04:18:39.400
okay yeah like they take turns sharing is caring so was it was it like 10 20. i feel like see it
04:18:49.000
depends on what i could do because i only have two hands one mouth a lot of holes um it's like whatever
04:18:56.520
could be occupied was occupied wow there was a queue yeah so was there was it like a sausage
04:19:03.000
fest there's just like way more dudes or what um i think there were more dudes but there's a decent
04:19:07.400
amount of women too a decent amount of okay yeah interesting but that was i only went this one
04:19:13.240
swingers party so i can't only one only one huh yeah i can't really say for all but it was a very
04:19:20.120
interesting experience okay okay oh not a lot three okay guys and girls or only guys only guys okay
04:19:31.080
um i have to say about eight men and i've lost count of the women but i'm assuming it's 50 plus
04:19:43.960
a little closer to the mic i don't feel comfortable at all telling my number but lots of women for sure
04:19:52.680
respected though um let's see before of like i lost count after 30 so yeah probably more girls at
04:20:02.920
this point though she did say she's for the streets already she acknowledged this what about you jason
04:20:10.360
what's your body count i'd prefer not share why not did you lost count to myself no i know exactly how
04:20:17.080
many is it double digits yeah i'll say it's double digits that's not as much as out here so he for
04:20:22.120
the street he's for the street you're doing so much better than me well i i will say that for me
04:20:30.360
i think that i think body count matters so i'm not going to reveal it but if you guys want to guess
04:20:36.680
that could be interesting if you want to guess my body count 28 i would say three three damn
04:20:42.840
okay would you tell us if we got it right nope wait how old are you again 33. oh 33. okay one for
04:20:55.960
11. i think you've lost count maybe two i think you've lost count hello number crazy did you guess
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huh do you have a notes app of like all the bodies no no i don't keep track oh i want to say 10.
04:21:09.800
i can neither confirm or deny any of these numbers who was that look were we close i can
04:21:18.920
neither confirm or deny uh daral thank you for the uh 18 british pounds much appreciate it for
04:21:24.120
the last part of the year yeah thank you man guys we will probably we'll be back early january we're
04:21:28.760
going to take a couple weeks off clips channel though we will be posting a ton of clips that's what
04:21:33.960
i'm really going to be doing on this break i need to get caught up i'm like 30 videos behind on the
04:21:37.880
clip so 30 podcasts behind on the clip so um anyways i want to open it up to you guys um i
04:21:45.320
sorry that we've gone a little late here um but i do want to open it up to you guys if you guys have
04:21:51.720
a final thought or question or something you want to get off your chest could be dating related if men
04:21:56.840
are pissing you off in some way when it comes to dating or just anything you want to get off your chest or
04:22:01.160
if not no worries we'll start out jason do you want the girls can go okay oh gentlemen um see
04:22:11.720
no final thoughts like as of now i'd say that if you're a cuck hit me up but my dms are open
04:22:19.640
if you're a cuck hit you up yeah oh god oh god no final thoughts here
04:22:33.800
i don't know i i just want to say that i am an opinionated but sweet woman and my dms are open
04:22:43.400
and i think that i have a great relationship with men so you know shoot your shot
04:22:51.080
to the nice guys don't give up stay nice but then also if you really like the girl just let her know
04:22:58.040
go for it um for me i feel like if i were to say anything i think men need to know that women
04:23:08.680
we're not like these evil conniving manipulative monsters are going to destroy you we honestly
04:23:16.360
are also invested in you living your best life at least for me personally like i do not have the time
04:23:23.480
to like you know want people to suffer so like you know if you're if you're out there you're alone
04:23:31.080
you don't have friends you know you're you know you're struggling um i hope at least for me i'm
04:23:40.920
rooting for you okay thanks um i think i would say honestly that all of us girls here are people
04:23:55.400
with human beings and we have our own opinions but we would like to be treated with
04:23:59.400
the same type of respect that you at home would want to be treated as well so please just be nice
04:24:05.080
overall as a human being thank you um i need more assistance so taking applications hit me up
04:24:12.520
what do you mean by assistance you know like camera set up maybe co-star we'll see okay
04:24:20.600
um for me it's all love and final thoughts it's the what olive olives all love oh it is all
04:24:35.400
we love a girl personality yes we took some milf okay um so um did you want final thought oh honestly
04:24:47.400
like thanks for being on time today and thanks brian for having us but you guys were like pretty chill
04:24:53.400
like i looked at your guys as tick tocks because brian sent them to me
04:24:56.520
tiktok is kind of cringe and i was like judge us based off of our based off of our tiktoks because
04:25:02.760
you know it's like i know but you do you do realize you do realize i know i saw it like i
04:25:07.560
can see the tactics did you like it no i was i was honestly like man i was feeling bad i was feeling
04:25:13.960
bad for like even the cosplay ones i mean it's just like i see the advertising strategy you guys are
04:25:20.600
going for and it's like i recognize it so i'm a career woman but it doesn't like paint you guys
04:25:25.960
in the best light because you guys are a lot more like like normal in person than like what your tiktok
04:25:31.720
shows me me and jason were actually having a debate on this because we saw i think rocket reina's
04:25:41.560
tiktok we saw your tiktok and we're like 55 and 44 and we're like there's no way there's no
04:25:50.520
fucking way but i mean you guys probably get that anyways but it's like i still don't believe it i
04:25:55.480
think it's marketing well your your theory was that they were trying to pander to like the older
04:26:02.120
gentlemen who have who have the money it's my theory oh that's a very interesting theory i don't
04:26:09.960
know y'all just why is that a theory when it's just a fact but asian don't raisin true i know so
04:26:15.960
like 55 like that 55 you can start to tell i feel like my mother's 70 is she looking 50.
04:26:22.760
your mom is so yeah your mom oh my god i mean show us your ids like here's the thing though like
04:26:30.680
i actually i actually dated a and maybe it's because she was half white half white half japanese girl 45.
04:26:40.200
she looked good but like she also looked 45. it's like you can usually tell at least like the skin
04:26:46.760
a little bit like little things yeah yeah so i don't know um it's because she's halfway it's it's
04:26:53.880
it's the yeah what's the saying for white people white what no just like white people for the aging
04:27:02.200
thing oh there's none yeah we don't i'm sorry to say yeah we don't why any question mark we don't age
04:27:09.240
we don't typically age very gracefully so um you know what let's let's react to one video and then
04:27:18.040
we'll wrap up and then maybe you touch a little did we really touch did everyone get to go around i
04:27:23.800
know we watched that video a while back did everyone get to give their reaction to the video because i
04:27:29.160
don't know if everyone did which one the one the fresh and fit with the guys and they're like
04:27:33.800
you know men want uh women want men with a future men want women that don't have a past or something
04:27:42.600
like that yeah but did did everyone get a chance to give their take and i wasn't i don't like i
04:27:48.680
wasn't able to give my take um yeah i think from what i can remember i was just very confused why he
04:27:55.480
was so concerned like what about like other people's relationships and like what their boundaries and
04:28:01.640
what they're okay with you know because everyone's different and it's kind of just like you know
04:28:07.000
just because you think it should be one way doesn't mean like it's like that for everyone else
04:28:11.880
yeah that was just like my take okay i think it's like it's a pretty general concern though because
04:28:20.440
like stats are showing that like a lot more women are going to end up single and childless and it's like
04:28:26.440
most women typically find like long-term fulfillment from like kids and having a family
04:28:32.040
so it's it's like it's like a lot of women are going down a path that like leads to like
04:28:38.440
a lot of sadness and loneliness and it's can you say the same thing for men though
04:28:44.760
you get you guys say that men have a higher suicide rate so don't they have a higher path
04:28:48.440
to sadness and loneliness with the way that they're acting yeah i would say men have different avenues to
04:28:55.800
like achieve things for a longer period of time than women do though for what it's like women like
04:29:01.800
men can like find satisfaction and just be becoming successful and it's like there's no time limit on
04:29:07.080
that really um can't you say the same about women though you know i mean in general no i don't think
04:29:13.560
like money and like a lifestyle is going to keep most women happy like in their old age like i'm talking
04:29:19.800
like 65 to like 95 like i don't think like lifestyle and money is gonna like fulfill you for those like
04:29:26.600
30 years what kind of lifestyle are you talking about specifically i mean just like being single
04:29:30.920
traveling like doing like single girl stuff when you're 65 to 90 like i don't think that's gonna like
04:29:37.480
make most girls feel like fulfilled for those 30 years single girl stuff what kind of what do you
04:29:42.520
think single girls do if they're single and older i mean i would imagine they do like stuff young girls
04:29:49.640
do they travel go out to eat and it's like but it's like you don't get lonely like i think that's
04:29:54.840
a generalization of it i don't think that's necessarily the case and i this is a hot take
04:29:59.880
but i don't think women like really understand until they stop getting attention from men
04:30:08.600
and that's when you're that's when you get like i mean obviously when you're like 60 no men is no man's
04:30:13.240
going to talk to you like that anymore you know what though like i mean in general in general like
04:30:18.760
you're like a you look like you're 25 and you're like in your 40s so you're kind of an exception yeah
04:30:25.160
you know i you know i think it's kind of when guys are like oh when she's old like it's done for her
04:30:31.560
but like i think it's a bit of a cope from guys like there's some truth to it but i think like there's
04:30:38.680
a certain sense of like a schadenfreude and i don't know that's like some german term like a
04:30:43.560
a uh sense i think well that word is uh a sense of delight or pleasure from someone else's uh
04:30:52.120
failure or some like negative thing happen happening to them but like
04:30:58.280
you know they they want to think okay girls who have a high body count or who
04:31:03.240
did porn or only fans are gonna have like trouble finding a man and there's like definitely i think
04:31:08.280
there's there's some truth to that but like i think we forget we underestimate the degree
04:31:15.640
to which simps will be simps and like men will like tolerate so much so like yeah i don't think
04:31:24.520
women will be happy in those relationships though really but like i think you're just generalizing
04:31:29.480
it pretty bad because i've met a lot of girls who do of but they're in a happy long-term relationship
04:31:35.240
whereas like their guys support them with what they do and they want to have a future together
04:31:40.120
but if they know that only fans is the way to make money now yeah i'm generalizing definitely
04:31:45.160
but because it's like when you're giving advice to like the general public you want to go off the
04:31:49.080
generalities and not like small exceptions but i think it's hard to generalize like that because
04:31:53.640
it has a lot of negative consequences because then they would just take those generalities and
04:31:57.720
apply it to all women like which is not necessarily should be the case i just think like you think
04:32:05.320
about how starved so many men are like oh yeah i'm not saying i don't think like most girls are gonna
04:32:13.800
end up like completely alone i think they're just gonna end up in like less optimal situations than
04:32:19.160
they could have been had they like like focus like like on different things probably all the guys that
04:32:24.520
subscribe to them on only fans would like happily partner with them of course happily partner with
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them i'm sure so it's like they happily partner with them well that's the question yeah and how
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long is that gonna last that's the question that is that is the question um let's react to a video then
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let's wrap um let's let's do uh just to end it on a very toxic note let's just kidding uh let's do uh
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oh can you eric can you scroll all the way to the hold on stay there can you hit the eye icon on the
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first gh5 center and then close the other one has he ever shouted you guys out i'm just curious i mean
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i was talking to him on instagram before he got banned we were gonna interview him but um
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i'm excited for you guys you're sorry i'm excited oh you're excited well i don't know if it's gonna
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happen anymore because i lost my contact with him he's back on twitter i tried dming him but like
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honest honestly he's so busy it's shifted but um let's do the bottom clip why not our most common one
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you know what's so attractive about younger women because we a lot of these dudes talk about fertility
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and yeah looks and stuff i don't actually think it's that i think that in the modern world
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in the days of old right you meet a woman you get married you be together whatever in the modern
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world if i meet a girl who's 33 and single i know the amount of dick that's been through her
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before me it's just simply unattractive i don't care how nice you are yeah but you're 33 years old
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how many men have if i got a 19 year old girl i might be your second or third man right i'm gonna be
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dude number 29 and all the trauma and heartbreak and they put you through you're gonna try and bring to
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my door like well my last man cheat i don't give a yeah like i don't care like why is that my problem so if you
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pick up older women you have to accept they've been on the carousel longer they've had more
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fucking rides more spins i don't want that shit and when i see a beautiful young woman i know that
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she has a very low body count and that and also no but no but the truth is women's mentality is
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absolutely connected to sex if a woman sleeps with a bunch of men it's harder to penetrate
04:34:33.480
her mind and make her fall it is unattractive too and it's unattractive but if she's like if
04:34:37.240
she's had 30 dudes inside of her she's really gonna think you know what this guy's so so so
04:34:41.240
special or she's gonna think you know what he talked to me real let's go get a new guy whereas
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if a woman's only been with a few guys she's much more likely to fall in love with you be a better
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partner except the likelihood of her falling completely in love with you and staying loyal
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to you and and really believing you're the only man for her after being through so much trauma and so
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many men and sleeping with so many dudes and having her heart broken and having those memories
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of her ex and all that crap she's been through is far less likely than meeting a nice young
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beautiful girl who hasn't been with many men and she goes you know what this is the guy i like him
04:35:06.120
every woman who knows this and every man who watches this can be honest women fall in love with the
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person they lose their virginity to or the second or third guy they really remember them they really
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love them any woman who slept with 50 dudes she doesn't even remember who most of them are she
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doesn't care if a woman slept with a bunch of men before you she's less likely to stick it out
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through a difficult period in a relationship she's more likely to just say you know what new answers
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new day that's a pretty good answer and that's the truth let me make something clear if i meet a
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beautiful 30 year old woman i'm not saying i won't sleep with them that's pretty old yeah 30 i know what are you
04:35:30.120
crazy i there's been times i was drunk your reaction to the video go ahead i forgot closer to the mic you
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forgot oh what did you say it's horny hours right now i get nearish proposals all the time and honestly
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i think i have no idea like if he thinks that's disgusting if a guy is just talking to a 30 year old
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and just i just wouldn't hear it like i would just kind of move on it doesn't really matter to me
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okay we'll go around the table go ahead i think and just hates a brilliant marketer for sure but
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again any guy who believes um what he said i just they're not the guy for me so yeah um going off of
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what he said i mean if he views like that with women who are 30 and who have been technically run
04:36:28.440
down by other men i just find it hard to believe that why can't women view men the same way if he
04:36:34.760
slept with a whole bunch of girls prior to meeting us um but other than that hey andrew tate how are you
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you want to hand me up thanks honestly i think there was one part where he was like oh like if
04:36:51.000
she fucked like like like 30 men like you can't penetrate her mind i think he said something like
04:36:56.360
that and i i was so confused because it's like why are you trying to penetrate my mind you're already
04:37:04.600
penetrating one thing why you gotta go for two also it sounds quite controlling like i don't know man
04:37:14.840
i kind of want to think for myself so it's a little weird okay what about you age and body count i don't
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think that that's not what's true because i mean my body count is really low because i've been in like
04:37:30.360
long-term relationships so yeah um i don't know i i feel i feel kind of sad hearing what he said i
04:37:44.680
think that andrew tate is painting a sad maybe pessimistic portrait of dating and sex and i don't
04:37:50.120
think that it has to be that way i think that if you're a man and you want a relationship with a woman
04:37:56.200
a good relationship or you want to just have sex with women whatever connection you want
04:38:00.280
to have with a girl like you can have what you want and you can have what you want you're more
04:38:06.760
likely to have what you want if you are not all hung up about things like body count or if or even with
04:38:12.760
for women if you're not hung up about things like wealth for example i think that all of this is shallow
04:38:18.360
i think it's not necessary i mean genuine human connection is possible and it's there and we can be
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more optimistic about it yeah like we can all be sluts if we want to and not have to shame each other
04:38:28.600
about it come on okay well me and jason will give our answer at the end go ahead go ahead that was
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incredible i know but we're not the same you're a man whore come on i'm a man whore maker what
04:38:44.120
you're a whore maker i'm a whore maker you're a slut maker i'm a slut maker men can't be sluts
04:38:49.080
out of that wait do you want to be called daddy in bed i mean no i don't i don't know yes or no
04:38:55.080
i've never i've never asked a woman to call me anything in bed does it does it turn you on or off
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i mean it's kind of neutral honestly it's good yeah it's kind of neutral you like it
04:39:06.040
it that's true i don't like it i don't like that i mean i get called mommy wait can we all go around
04:39:11.880
saying daddy uh yeah wait actually daddy can we do can we get your uwu's yes it's part of my brand oh
04:39:22.520
yeah okay we'll do uwu's like like the like the cute girl or like my normal and then okay we'll do uwu's
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we'll do the ahigao is that did i say that right and then we'll do are you talking about aegyo did i
04:39:35.800
say that wrong yeah you butchered that but i'll give you a pass it's called i mean it's like it's
04:39:39.160
korean for like acting like like kind of like no it's ahigao it's ahigao oh okay i'm thinking
04:39:43.800
something else oh it's the tongue out yeah yeah um and then what else do we do
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we'll start with the uwu for now can i go first yeah go for it
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oh i refuse i'll just vote on the mic but i will not you'll what on the mic you'll moan
04:40:02.920
on the mic but i won't uwu is that chat is that is that monka tos hello i mean it's just a noise
04:40:11.320
is that is that tos chat um this is not necessary
04:40:18.200
yeah but you're watching it anyway so it's kind of necessary for you who wants to do an uwu
04:41:00.200
no no i don't i don't yeah well one we're too old for him
04:41:05.240
oh yeah there's a 20 year old at the table he likes 19 freshman come on if you listen to him
04:41:10.680
you know that she's got too many bodies we're not his type he can't penetrate our minds honestly
04:41:15.960
i just don't think he's attractive okay that's fine he might have a lot of money but that wouldn't
04:41:21.720
persuade me either i would lick his bald head though you would lick his bald head
04:41:26.680
i want to rub it for good luck like buddha oh oh yeah it's so shiny
04:41:32.280
i'll put it in between my boobs wait okay so we were going we were going around before
04:41:37.960
did we get through everybody can you guys do the react
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you're korean right what's the what can i call you oppa
04:41:50.840
oh yeah yeah i mean i'm not your oppa though technically so yeah what would you be but i mean
04:41:56.120
i don't know yeah there's it's like tungstang but yeah i'd have to call you nuna
04:42:03.000
isn't there something called like the ara ara does anyone know okay
04:42:07.960
okay okay um can we can we go around on that one can you do you want to do it okay we'll go
04:42:15.960
around on it okay do it i don't think this one is as good as my uwu but
04:42:21.720
like i'm so confused do you roll the r um you could try if you want to yeah because in japanese
04:43:22.280
all right those last two were terrible i'm not going to
04:43:24.600
those last two were not our thing dude what is that what is that it's like an anime thing
04:43:31.320
it's an older woman mature woman mommy dommies yeah oh a mommy dommie phrase
04:43:37.080
out of you you're such a good boy like that type of yeah okay would any of you date someone a man who
04:43:45.560
wore a toupee yeah yeah dude dude did you see chinese tiktok no those days
04:43:52.040
are they were two things they're pretty secure yeah okay wait let's let's wrap on the tape thing so
04:44:00.680
did everyone give their reaction i forgot we were talking about body count what did you say i think
04:44:06.760
it was you you said something about body count right oh sorry jason um are we talking about reacting to
04:44:12.760
the andrew tate video yeah you're saying something about like the tate and then i was the last person
04:44:17.320
and then and then it was just youtube oh and then i praised you and i was like this is incredible i don't know if i can even add to anything honestly that's probably my true take
04:44:24.520
um let's see um honestly i forgot what it was again because anything andrew tate i just don't
04:44:32.200
out uh but yeah i mean definitely not the guy i am interested so like whatever he thinks i don't really
04:44:41.080
care but also on the age thing you have like two different sides of the spectrum you have numi who is
04:44:46.760
like older and like less of a body count and then you have me and lucy like you know younger higher
04:44:53.960
body count so it's like that theory hmm yeah yeah well i guess that's one thing i do disagree with tate on
04:45:01.880
is that just because she's young doesn't necessarily mean she has a low body count like we know some girls
04:45:10.600
that 100 plus body count at 19 like 18 it's it's a yikes so uh i think he's saying more so generally
04:45:21.720
like you take any one given woman obviously when she's 19 her body count is going to be lower than
04:45:29.800
when she's 29 so like if you look at any one given woman her body count at 19 is just it's lower than
04:45:39.960
in 10 years so but what were we talking about yeah dude i'm tired it's late last thing last thing
04:45:51.800
this is the last stream i want to end it on the on like a kind of more fun note here
04:46:00.440
what's that i agree with that yeah uh this is a fun clip from a stand-up comedian let's uh
04:46:06.280
last show of the year we're going to wrap it up on the patrice o'neill clip
04:46:16.520
it's up it's in the main main main main down down down there you go wait no up there you go
04:46:27.320
this is a good serious question okay ladies if you didn't have a vagina like say it was a terrible
04:46:35.720
train accident right and the doctor was like we have to remove your pussy right away
04:46:45.640
how would you keep your man past you get a two-month
04:46:50.040
one guilty i can't leave the bitch right away because she just lost the pussy in the train accident
04:47:04.360
how would you keep your man past that if you didn't have a vagina eric can you pause it
04:47:09.560
how do you keep your man if you there was a terrible train accident he had to get rid of the vagina
04:47:22.680
how do you keep your man give him head every day and then closer to the mic oh give him head every day
04:47:28.840
i still have boobies so he'll put that in between my
04:47:32.440
okay there you go what about you a whole lot of anal anal okay yeah i was about to say i got two
04:47:39.640
other holes if he wanted to use them so okay what about you i have titties okay
04:47:47.000
the booty hole okay i got two other holes baby and a nice pair of tits there's no shortage okay
04:47:54.360
rocket reina super sloppy all the time super sloppy super sloppy head all the time okay
04:48:02.440
gawk gawk 3000 yeah okay all right got some good answers there got some good answers eric can you go
04:48:24.440
asshole okay great do you see what i'm saying now i've been getting pussybeating the whole show
04:48:34.920
right but i give women the opportunity to say i want to make myself worth more but you just classified
04:48:41.000
yourself as a series of holes but but you know i'm
04:48:48.200
i'm supposed to teach you special but you're just a bunch of holes for yourself
04:48:54.200
no one said learn how to play xbox learn how to play pool
04:48:58.120
tell better stories get another that got a pussy to come on in
04:49:13.720
he let it off with pussy i thought he just wanted to be like a dirty answer so i was like
04:49:17.640
we are we got two like how to sexually please you guys are all i would love for him to come all the
04:49:23.000
time hey i acknowledge myself as a whole so we've got a bunch of of girls to talk about our holes
04:49:30.200
yeah yeah all right let me get these super chats eric did you miss one of the super chats i feel like we
04:49:36.200
had three that came in can you just uh scroll through let me i'll pull them up yo we got chase
04:49:43.960
thank you for the 20 super chat thank you man we are going based off the majority not the exception
04:49:48.200
to the rule because the exception is statistically insignificant chase thank you for the 20 super chat
04:49:54.040
my apologies i'm not sure exactly what this is uh in relation to uh eric you missed casual meats um
04:50:04.920
chase um maybe you could clarify i'm not quite sure what this is in relation to maybe just whatever we
04:50:11.960
we've been talking about the entire night yo shane m thank you for the ten dollar soup chat chase
04:50:16.360
you can't be super chatting in here we need you on the pot i'm pretty sure that's not yeah that ain't
04:50:20.680
chase that's not that's not chase paisley that's somebody else guys if you want get your last minute
04:50:25.160
super chats in this is the last show of 2022 um we have shane m yeah it's not chase um we have casual
04:50:33.480
meat with the australian ten dollars uh thank you mate appreciate it uh can we get a cat check
04:50:38.840
how many cats do these women have enjoy a well-deserved break brian uh do you guys have
04:50:44.920
cats yes no that was like a resounding i have a cat named casserole i call her cassie for short
04:50:51.560
cat i have two sheba inus cali in idaho okay dogs okay i have two cats and two um rats oh any reptiles
04:51:02.680
any girls those chicks are freaky i used to have um a bearded dragon and two leopard geckos exhibit a
04:51:09.000
yes you're right reptile chicks be freaks okay go ahead two wiener dogs oh okay all right i have
04:51:17.800
one cat hi asher i have one dog i have two cats i used to have a turtle named pancake a turtle r.i.p pancake
04:51:29.240
that's a reptile what yo guys invest in chewy invest in chewy uh and then we have joel tagger
04:51:38.600
with the ten dollar soup chat the only way brian can keep a woman up all night is by refusing to
04:51:42.200
let the podcast end and forcing them to stay and answer questions uh
04:51:46.600
i'm not gonna front like like round two occasionally i'm an old man round one and done
04:52:01.560
anyways whatever okay yeah i know i'm kind of like that's that's weak um word uh anyways by the way
04:52:12.120
onlyfans.com whatever boom check it out um guys you guys want to plug your guys's uh instagrams or
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only fans or anything all by the way all the links for the girls they're all in the description below
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guys check them out give them a follow they guys they were very generous to come and uh drive on down
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04:52:38.920
well my instagram is j-a-s-t-e-a-a um and o-f jasmine t with two a's and you can also check out my new
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04:52:59.560
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04:53:06.040
my holes or you can just tell me what you thought of my opinions you can find me on ig twitter and
04:53:13.080
it's numi underscore r um for me it's um ubu tofu u-w-u-t-o-f-u on um only fans and you can also find
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me on instagram and tiktok um you can find me on instagram and twitter um my handle is dang
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it's dang it's tricksy d-a-n-g-i-t-s-t-r-i-x-i-e um i'm some variant of lucy mochi on everything
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i am xo princess april on instagram twitter only fans playboy anything for you jason nothing
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shout out to chat i love you guys see you guys in january yeah guys this is crispy kim
04:54:01.960
in the chat so uh yeah big props to him he came all the way from vegas to be on the show so uh
04:54:08.760
yeah that was good is there is there anything we're forgetting
04:54:13.480
makeup party she said makeup party uh you guys you guys
04:54:21.640
how many of us are you guys is it is that wait is it allowed wait is it munca tls chat is that munca tls
04:54:33.000
are we is it making out is if there's any groping that how about just a kiss like a good romantic
04:54:41.720
kiss not a make yeah not full-on making out oh yeah okay what gotta be so it's not against tos
04:54:54.600
i don't i think oh wow okay well okay that's happening
04:54:58.840
okay um and i think jeez there was there's something that uh azam needed me to do i think uh
04:55:22.440
44 yeah it's on the internet are you sure if you look up 44 i have a biography page
04:55:31.480
on there but what if you just lied to the internet people
04:55:37.160
i don't know this is just it's just really on the internet
04:55:39.560
i like the music okay keep my eyes closed okay all right if you say so if you say so all right
04:56:02.920
all right guys thank you for uh tuning in you could have been doing anything else but you were here with
04:56:07.160
me i appreciate that you know thanks to everyone who's super chatted tonight and throughout the
04:56:11.560
past couple months really appreciate it thank you for supporting the show really appreciate you guys
04:56:15.960
uh like i said guys we're going to be taking a couple weeks off i need to get caught up on clips
04:56:20.920
we will be active on the on the whatever tick tock we're going to be active on the whatever clips
04:56:26.120
channel i'm going to be doing a ton of editing so you'll still be getting content i'm just going through
04:56:31.080
i'm 30 videos behind so i need to take a little break um should be back early january big thanks
04:56:37.800
to our chat mods zach thank you to candace thanks to eric top producer on the ones and twos big thank
04:56:44.440
you to the wonderful panel really appreciate you guys coming on as a is a good show and i appreciate
04:56:49.720
the uh lively conversation and debate we had uh so yeah like we won't be live again next tuesday and
04:56:57.160
thursday obviously just because we're taking a couple weeks off like i said back early january
04:57:03.160
anyways guys thank you so much really appreciate the support hope you guys have a fantastic uh 2023
04:57:11.000
have a happy new year happy christmas kwanzaa what's it hanukkah uh did that already happen um
04:57:20.280
anyways guys we will see you next time see you in 2023 have a good night guys and we will see you soon