Whatever Podcast - Dating Talk #47

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00:01:02.560 Welcome to the Whatever Dating Talk podcast coming to you live from Santa Barbara, California

00:01:17.380 every Sunday and Tuesday at 7 p.m. Pacific.

00:01:20.840 I'm your host, Brian Atlas.

00:01:23.500 I'm joined by my co-host, Kiki.

00:01:26.200 She's a bit shy.

00:01:27.560 A few quick announcements before the show begins.

00:01:29.360 Guys, can we get some RIPs in the chat for Greg Plitt?

00:01:33.760 He passed away 2015, January 17th or something.

00:01:40.280 So it's the anniversary.

00:01:42.160 RIPs in the chat for Greg Plitt, guys.

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00:02:20.900 Oh, $6.90.

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00:04:04.000 Anyways, guys, oh, yeah, last thing.

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00:04:24.060 Here's to a great show.

00:04:25.680 Yo.

00:04:26.100 Hey, hon. 0.89

00:04:28.440 Thank you, man.

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00:04:36.060 Honestly, probably wouldn't have found the motivation to keep going because those first few months were pretty rough.

00:04:41.320 So thank you, man.

00:04:42.720 Anyways, yeah.

00:04:44.580 Oh, W in the chat for all our mods.

00:04:47.400 Zach, Candice, Nemesis, Urameshi, and Michael Matroke IV.

00:04:52.380 And Eric, you can still star the TTS chats also.

00:04:57.260 Anyways, without further ado, after that obnoxiously long introduction, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.

00:05:03.840 So please tell us your name, age, occupation, and or school major.

00:05:08.460 Go ahead.

00:05:08.760 Okay, my name is Ami Inu.

00:05:11.580 I currently work as a content creator, but previously I was in cyber security.

00:05:20.180 And now I'm a cosplayer, and I was asked to wear a bunny suit here.

00:05:25.700 So, you know, some others weren't asked about them.

00:05:29.700 We won't talk about that now.

00:05:32.060 But what was the other question?

00:05:34.620 Oh, I'm in my 20s, and I went to UCI.

00:05:37.660 I don't know if that's part of it, but yeah.

00:05:40.100 You're in your 20s?

00:05:41.260 Yes.

00:05:41.640 What's your actual age?

00:05:43.220 I don't ever give my, like, because of my presence, I don't give my year out.

00:05:49.520 Why?

00:05:49.680 As in cyber security previously, years are tied to a lot of very sensitive information, and people already know my birth date, so giving out my year would be a risk for me.

00:06:01.160 Stop the cap. 0.94

00:06:02.620 Wait, that's the reason you don't want to share your age?

00:06:06.100 Because of cyber security risks.

00:06:08.540 Well, yeah.

00:06:09.160 People go through a lot of...

00:06:10.180 Tell you what.

00:06:10.740 We'll do this.

00:06:11.420 We'll do this.

00:06:12.000 Why don't you...

00:06:12.520 Wait.

00:06:13.560 Why don't you tell us a two- to three-year range?

00:06:17.220 No.

00:06:17.760 People go through a lot of...

00:06:18.260 So you're 26 or you're 28?

00:06:20.340 No, I've never gone into specifics.

00:06:23.040 I won't be doing that on the whatever podcast.

00:06:25.580 I just...

00:06:26.120 Why?

00:06:26.600 Just safety precautions, and also, like, I have people who have stalked me, doxxed me.

00:06:32.800 I'm not interested in more of that information coming out.

00:06:35.680 I'm here to talk about my job, how I got into this.

00:06:38.800 I'm here to share a lot of, like, aspects of my life that are very exciting and interesting.

00:06:43.300 My age and the exact...

00:06:45.640 Like, I'm born on September 15th, but I'm not going to tell you the date, you know?

00:06:49.380 But why would you share that instead of just the...

00:06:52.740 Because then I can say, hey, it's my birthday, and people can celebrate with me.

00:06:56.400 However, I don't have to share those four numbers that I've used in passwords and banking.

00:07:01.660 But, I mean, in terms of your internet security, I mean, you're in your 20s, so that's only...

00:07:08.780 If someone wanted to try to attempt to guess your age, that's only 10 guesses in terms of the year.

00:07:16.340 Fair.

00:07:16.560 So you said September 15th.

00:07:17.980 Fair.

00:07:18.260 So it could be 89, it could be 90, it could be 91.

00:07:21.460 It only takes a couple guesses to arrive at...

00:07:24.240 I don't know how they would use it, but...

00:07:26.660 I think you're already out of the 20s with those years, but sure.

00:07:31.080 Well, I'm giving examples, but it could be 94, 95, 96.

00:07:35.220 Sure, sure, but I think it's a lot safer to not say it.

00:07:40.720 So you're in your 20s?

00:07:42.360 Yeah.

00:07:42.860 Okay, so you wish to omit...

00:07:44.320 I'll say mid-20s, there you go.

00:07:45.620 You wish to omit your age?

00:07:47.460 Completely, from the internet.

00:07:48.760 I never have posted it anywhere, and nobody knows.

00:07:51.180 Is it because you think that your OnlyFans patrons would...

00:08:04.820 Have you misrepresented your age before?

00:08:06.960 No, never, and that's the thing a lot of people in our industry do.

00:08:10.180 Straight into the mic.

00:08:11.380 Sorry, they'll be 19 for many years on their page.

00:08:15.220 So that's another really great reason not to post it, is that I never have to misrepresent my age,

00:08:21.480 never have to lie about it, but it also keeps me safe. 0.92

00:08:24.640 And my primary reason was, okay, I've used this for banking shit before. 0.55

00:08:29.360 I'm not going to say this publicly. 0.95

00:08:31.260 Obviously, I've changed it since now, but, you know, it's just safer.

00:08:36.820 You can dig into it more later, but maybe we should get to other people first.

00:08:40.760 I've never heard of, like, a...

00:08:42.700 I suppose giving your full birth date would be a potential.

00:08:46.340 Right, which they already have my September 15th birthday.

00:08:49.320 But, I mean, don't you think being out there publicly on social media is a bigger risk than...

00:08:54.980 Are you, like, trying to get your chat to dox me?

00:08:58.820 No, I just...

00:08:59.460 Because I'd rather just talk about, like, you know, my career.

00:09:03.440 Well, I'll tell you...

00:09:04.020 I guess I'll tell you kind of my objection to it is, well, we had an OnlyFans panel previously,

00:09:08.680 and three of the girls claim to have... 0.96

00:09:11.820 Two of the girls claim to have been 45.

00:09:13.960 One of the girls claim to be 55.

00:09:16.920 They were in their 20s.

00:09:18.620 Wow.

00:09:18.820 So, the reason I pushed back on it is because...

00:09:21.740 Well, yeah, they lied, and I just...

00:09:24.020 I don't see how I can have a productive conversation with someone who so egregious...

00:09:28.060 Not you, but who so egregiously misrepresents their age.

00:09:32.400 Exactly.

00:09:33.100 Because how you date in your 20s is far different than how you would date, for example, when you're 55.

00:09:38.680 I 100% agree.

00:09:39.800 And I assume they were doing it because they were pandering to their...

00:09:42.960 Probably, yeah.

00:09:44.060 ...older male clientele.

00:09:45.640 Probably, yeah.

00:09:46.480 But as a show of good faith, I will allow you to omit your age.

00:09:51.760 Not that you would tell it anyways, but...

00:09:53.280 If we were on a date, I would 100% tell you.

00:09:56.000 Okay.

00:09:56.580 And my real name, but not on the whatever podcast.

00:10:00.820 Well, I'll tell you what.

00:10:01.480 I'll leave it at that, but I do ask that your other answers are...

00:10:07.500 Honest.

00:10:08.340 ...are 100% forthcoming, and I'm going to have you swear on the Bible after this.

00:10:13.760 Okay, go ahead.

00:10:14.660 I can swear on Dragon Ball Z.

00:10:16.360 That's more my...

00:10:17.020 Okay, all right.

00:10:18.500 All right, fair enough.

00:10:20.520 All right, anyways, I'm Sophie.

00:10:22.120 I'm 19, and I'm a student at UCSB.

00:10:24.120 Okay, what do you study at UCSB?

00:10:27.240 Philosophy and Spanish.

00:10:28.540 Okay, so I assume you speak Spanish.

00:10:31.280 I do not.

00:10:32.360 No, it's kind of a touchy subject.

00:10:34.560 Wait, you're joking, right?

00:10:39.000 Basically, I took my first Spanish class yesterday.

00:10:42.220 Oh, okay.

00:10:42.900 And it went interestingly.

00:10:46.240 Basically, I cannot speak a single word of Spanish.

00:10:48.520 So you're going to be dropping that class pretty soon, is what you're saying?

00:10:51.280 No, I'm taking it.

00:10:52.320 Oh, okay.

00:10:53.260 All right, go ahead.

00:10:55.200 I am Alex.

00:10:56.440 I am 26, and the only reason I can say that is because I lied about my birthday.

00:11:00.860 So no one knows the actual date, and I'm also a content creator.

00:11:05.340 And when you say content creator, you mean OnlyFans?

00:11:07.960 Not exclusively.

00:11:09.080 Okay, you do other stuff, too.

00:11:10.240 Yeah.

00:11:10.400 Okay, sure, sure, sure.

00:11:11.500 That's fair.

00:11:12.280 That's fair.

00:11:12.780 Go ahead.

00:11:13.600 I'm Diane.

00:11:14.420 I'm 18, and I go to UCSB, and I'm a communication major.

00:11:18.360 Tilt the microphone down ever so slightly towards you.

00:11:21.600 I'm sorry, I didn't have a third seat booster for you.

00:11:25.240 I apologize.

00:11:26.540 Go ahead.

00:11:27.120 I'm Annie.

00:11:27.840 I'm 28.

00:11:28.640 I'm getting my master's in screenwriting, and I bartend to make a living.

00:11:33.540 Okay, cool.

00:11:35.220 Hi.

00:11:35.820 I'm Taylor.

00:11:36.400 I'm 28, and I own a clothing and merchandise brand called Season Up.

00:11:40.740 It's all surrounding mental health.

00:11:44.280 All right.

00:11:45.180 My name is Cade Parker.

00:11:46.600 I'm a social media content creator.

00:11:48.600 I'm a business owner, just all-around entrepreneur, YouTuber, and I actually own my own podcast

00:11:53.800 called Unplugged.

00:11:56.180 Rock and roll.

00:11:56.980 Thank you, guys.

00:11:57.800 Eric, can you push the door open a little bit so we get a little more air going through?

00:12:02.080 Okay.

00:12:03.000 By the way, I hope you didn't mind me really putting the heat on.

00:12:07.000 I'm ready for the heat.

00:12:07.420 Putting the heat on a little bit there.

00:12:09.020 Okay.

00:12:09.140 I came prepared.

00:12:09.800 Good, good, good.

00:12:10.660 All right, guys.

00:12:11.340 Everyone's Instagrams are in the description, so show them some love.

00:12:15.620 Give them a follow.

00:12:16.980 We're going to go around the table once more.

00:12:18.640 So, current relationship status, longest relationship, and your sexual orientation.

00:12:23.780 Okay.

00:12:24.400 Start with the last one.

00:12:25.700 I'm bisexual.

00:12:27.340 Longest relationship, five years.

00:12:30.300 Current relationship status.

00:12:32.200 I also don't disclose online, but since I'm here, I'll just say I'm super private about

00:12:37.580 it, but I do date.

00:12:40.100 All right.

00:12:41.360 My longest relationship is a little bit over a year.

00:12:44.300 I'm straight, and currently I'm talking to someone.

00:12:46.700 It's going pretty well, so I'll probably end up in a relationship with them.

00:12:51.720 But you're not in a relationship yet?

00:12:53.900 Nope.

00:12:54.220 How long have you guys been talking?

00:12:55.740 A little under a month.

00:12:57.500 Okay.

00:12:58.060 So, it's the talking stage.

00:13:00.000 Yep.

00:13:00.020 Pretty early on in it.

00:13:01.080 Okay.

00:13:01.600 Does he go to UCSB, too?

00:13:02.940 Nope.

00:13:03.240 He's back home in Minnesota.

00:13:05.180 Well, you guys met over the summer or over?

00:13:10.380 Yep.

00:13:10.820 We met end of August.

00:13:12.580 Didn't really talk too much, and we hung out over winter break.

00:13:16.700 And that's how we really started talking.

00:13:21.020 Okay.

00:13:21.660 How did you guys meet?

00:13:22.960 We met at the state fair, actually.

00:13:25.060 I can detect a bit of an accent.

00:13:26.780 So, you're from Minnesota.

00:13:28.440 Yep.

00:13:29.120 Okay.

00:13:29.720 It's coming through.

00:13:30.460 It's coming through.

00:13:31.020 Okay.

00:13:31.900 Okay.

00:13:32.300 Cool.

00:13:32.760 Go ahead.

00:13:33.060 I am also bisexual.

00:13:35.420 My longest relationship was five years, and that is completely separate from her five-year

00:13:39.800 relationship.

00:13:42.400 And God, what was the other one?

00:13:44.480 So, just current relationship status, longest relationship in your orientation.

00:13:48.280 Oh, I'm so single. 0.95

00:13:49.720 I am completely bitchless. 1.00

00:13:51.400 Okay. 0.94

00:13:52.380 It's true.

00:13:53.060 Um, I'm straight.

00:13:54.820 I also have never had a boyfriend before.

00:13:57.240 I just kind of, like, talk around.

00:13:59.540 And that's sad about it.

00:14:01.080 How long?

00:14:01.680 Open to dating, though.

00:14:03.360 What?

00:14:03.740 Can you articulate a little better what talking around is?

00:14:06.620 Like, you kind of just hook up with people, and then you talk to them for, like, a week

00:14:10.740 or two, and then...

00:14:12.080 And then what happens?

00:14:14.060 History.

00:14:14.800 Well, they're normally, like, friends, though.

00:14:16.440 So, like, you see them, you know?

00:14:18.620 Like, getting with, like, your guy friends.

00:14:22.040 And then you talk for a little bit, like, intimately, and then you're friends again.

00:14:25.540 So, it's like...

00:14:26.600 Like, it never happened.

00:14:27.780 You know?

00:14:27.940 A situation-ship type?

00:14:29.240 No, not...

00:14:29.800 I wouldn't even call it a situation-ship type.

00:14:31.460 It's, like, not even there yet.

00:14:32.340 Like, the step before that.

00:14:34.240 Like, a little bit below.

00:14:35.100 It's, like, friends with benefits.

00:14:36.940 I see.

00:14:37.500 Kind of.

00:14:38.300 Are you two sophomores or freshmen?

00:14:40.340 We're freshmen.

00:14:41.400 Oh, okay.

00:14:42.080 Yeah.

00:14:42.240 Okay.

00:14:42.600 Aw.

00:14:43.140 So, it's...

00:14:43.720 It's be friends with a dude, and then you're both, like, drunk at a party or whatever.

00:14:49.880 One thing leads to another type situation, or...

00:14:52.540 Yeah.

00:14:53.100 Like, exactly.

00:14:53.920 Like that.

00:14:54.560 Okay.

00:14:55.100 And then you guys never hook up again. 0.84

00:14:58.060 I mean, no.

00:14:58.580 I mean, there have been times when, like, you get with them again.

00:15:01.060 But I feel like it's not been, like...

00:15:02.580 Like, probably my longest was, like, five times.

00:15:05.100 With one guy.

00:15:06.020 And that's the longest.

00:15:08.780 Okay.

00:15:09.360 I see.

00:15:09.860 Yeah.

00:15:10.200 Okay.

00:15:11.160 I want...

00:15:11.560 I'll come back to that, but I'll have everyone else go ahead.

00:15:14.220 I'm straight.

00:15:15.480 Here, scoot your microphone to your...

00:15:17.400 That way.

00:15:19.500 Am I good now?

00:15:20.960 What?

00:15:21.380 Just scoot it that way. 0.90

00:15:23.400 That's good.

00:15:24.040 Yeah.

00:15:24.280 Go for it.

00:15:24.700 I'm straight, and I'm single.

00:15:27.600 My longest relationship was, like, three years on and off.

00:15:31.740 Okay.

00:15:34.260 My longest relationship was three and a half years.

00:15:37.720 Hold on.

00:15:38.080 I just got to interrupt you.

00:15:38.900 Scoot your microphone that way, and then tilt it down ever so slightly.

00:15:44.480 Perfect.

00:15:45.120 Go ahead.

00:15:45.400 Okay.

00:15:46.280 So, I'm very single.

00:15:48.980 My longest relationship is three and a half years.

00:15:51.280 Oops.

00:15:51.580 Sorry.

00:15:52.680 That was the wrong sound.

00:15:53.960 I appreciate the love of it.

00:15:55.620 Go ahead.

00:15:56.200 Go ahead.

00:15:57.240 Okay.

00:15:57.640 Yeah.

00:15:57.860 So, my longest relationship is three and a half years, and what was the other question?

00:16:01.920 I'm so sorry.

00:16:03.020 Your sexual orientation.

00:16:03.800 Oh, yeah.

00:16:04.260 I'm straight.

00:16:06.440 So, I am also straight.

00:16:08.080 My longest relationship has got to be around eight months, and currently, single.

00:16:13.280 Remind me, how old are you again?

00:16:14.780 27.

00:16:15.920 Longest relationship, eight months?

00:16:17.380 Yeah.

00:16:17.800 Okay.

00:16:18.360 All right.

00:16:18.980 Good times.

00:16:19.840 Good times.

00:16:20.940 You've been playing the field, you know?

00:16:25.020 Recently, actually.

00:16:25.920 Just single about a month or two ago, but when you realize it's not right, it's time to move on, you know?

00:16:31.340 Okay.

00:16:31.880 Looking for the right person.

00:16:33.040 I don't want to waste my time.

00:16:34.860 Yeah.

00:16:35.100 Eight months is no wasting time.

00:16:38.120 I knew a guy who would do three months and then change, if it wasn't right, every time.

00:16:43.500 My last was actually around a month and a half, and after I realized that it was wrong, I got out of it.

00:16:48.820 Oh.

00:16:50.000 Good times.

00:16:50.840 As they say, when you know, you know, I guess.

00:16:52.940 Yeah.

00:16:53.740 All right.

00:16:54.020 We're going to do a couple soup chats here, guys.

00:16:57.060 All right.

00:16:57.720 We have Zoro Slost with the $10 soup chat. 0.71

00:17:01.160 Hey, thank you, man.

00:17:01.680 How would you feel if woman, you always got the crazy formatting, Zora Slost. 1.00

00:17:07.340 How would you feel if woman were called stupid, weak and short for wanting a man that's taller, more money, stronger, fit, ambitious, confident? 1.00

00:17:14.560 Because that's how stupid you sound, calling a man insecure for our standards. 1.00

00:17:18.940 Uh-oh. 1.00

00:17:20.240 Okay.

00:17:20.680 Well, we haven't gone there yet, but it might.

00:17:23.700 It might.

00:17:24.680 I don't know if we reached that point.

00:17:26.240 He went straight for the jugular. 0.97

00:17:27.640 He said, that's what I'm supposed to really feel.

00:17:29.420 Zoro back at it again.

00:17:30.740 There we go.

00:17:31.560 Yo, Flan Life.

00:17:32.640 Hey, thank you, man, for the big Canadian $20 soup chat.

00:17:35.360 Appreciate it.

00:17:35.740 Patrick Bateman, dude in the white blazer, I see you.

00:17:40.420 Appreciate it, man.

00:17:41.280 Thank you.

00:17:42.100 Okay.

00:17:43.880 Beat in cheeks with the $10 soup chat.

00:17:45.980 Thank you, man.

00:17:46.460 Ladies, how do you feel about us men in the chat spending more on whatever than what a man would spend on a date with you?

00:17:52.460 Asking for a friend.

00:17:53.520 And, yeah, your guys' thoughts on that?

00:17:56.340 Beat in cheeks.

00:17:56.880 How do you know how much people are spending on a date?

00:17:58.940 It's not best to assume.

00:18:01.080 You're wrong.

00:18:02.460 I don't want to throw out any numbers, but I'm pretty sure a man has spent more on me in a night than the $10 he just donated.

00:18:12.640 Well, there might be more to come, you know, so don't count them out yet.

00:18:15.640 We'll see.

00:18:15.960 Maybe if he continues donating, he can reach an amount that is higher, but not at the moment.

00:18:22.300 You see, for me, I don't like spending a lot of money on the first date because that kind of sets a standard of what they're expecting.

00:18:28.840 Yeah.

00:18:29.060 And I don't even know if I'm going to want to see you again.

00:18:31.900 So why spend a bunch of money to prove that I'm a baller when I don't have to?

00:18:37.080 I don't have to show you anything about my life if I don't want to.

00:18:40.000 So, yeah.

00:18:42.200 Okay, let me ask you.

00:18:43.940 So do you do, when you go on a date with a girl, is it totally free?

00:18:48.340 Like you'll go for a walk or go to the beach, do a picnic?

00:18:50.580 Or like you'll do a meet for a drink or something cheap like tacos.

00:18:54.740 In those instances, would you pay or are you going to go for the split?

00:18:59.040 Most of the time, I think going for a drink is probably the best option.

00:19:03.580 It's easier to break the ice when you get a few drinks in you and then the awkward tension is gone.

00:19:10.560 I normally, I mean, the last one was probably around $120 for just a couple of drinks.

00:19:16.220 Bruv.

00:19:16.700 That's a good amount of money.

00:19:19.840 I mean, I'm not spending more than that just for a couple of drinks, I can tell you that.

00:19:24.120 Yeah, but that's, I mean, isn't that an L?

00:19:26.160 Like you said, what if it doesn't go to a second date?

00:19:28.180 Right, and you could take her to a nice dinner for that amount.

00:19:30.780 Well, I was thinking about this a couple of weeks ago, and I think there's only been maybe one or two dates

00:19:34.900 where I didn't get a second date or a third date.

00:19:37.880 So, just, I choose.

00:19:41.840 Patrick Bateman, no fourth date.

00:19:46.240 What's this no fourth date from Patrick Bateman?

00:19:49.420 I've seen American Psycho, but what's the fourth date thing?

00:19:51.760 Oh, no, it actually, there's no fourth date thing in the movie.

00:19:55.020 He just kills people. 0.99

00:19:56.260 He just kills them. 0.97

00:19:57.300 If I leave, I have to make an excuse, and I say, I've got to go turn some videotapes.

00:20:00.740 Yeah, exactly.

00:20:01.580 Beat and Cheeks super chatted $50.

00:20:04.320 I'll spend more money on this broadcast than on any of our first dates, and I'm disease-free,

00:20:09.180 successful, and the brown version of kid, but slightly less good-looking.

00:20:13.460 Okay, he's the brown version of you, but who? 0.94

00:20:17.440 Slightly less good-looking.

00:20:18.900 It's good that he knows.

00:20:20.260 Yeah.

00:20:20.640 Okay.

00:20:21.400 He's the brown version of kid. 0.99

00:20:22.940 Okay.

00:20:23.360 Yeah, all right.

00:20:24.120 Welcome, my brother.

00:20:24.760 There you go.

00:20:25.740 Maybe brother from another mother, because, okay.

00:20:29.760 By the way, we have Huey Lewis in the news here.

00:20:32.860 Oh, yes.

00:20:33.900 Do you guys like Huey Lewis in the news?

00:20:36.420 Got business cards, too?

00:20:38.860 Huey Lewis in the news.

00:20:39.840 We'll go around the table really quick, yes or no?

00:20:41.520 Quick.

00:20:42.260 I'm unfamiliar.

00:20:44.160 Please tell me that's an American Psycho reference.

00:20:46.780 Of course it is.

00:20:47.540 It's an American Psycho reference.

00:20:48.760 Of course it's an American Psycho reference.

00:20:49.760 Come on, guys.

00:20:51.180 All right.

00:20:52.300 Okay.

00:20:52.740 So, going back to the date thing.

00:20:55.260 So, 120 bucks.

00:20:58.480 Yeah, it's a little high.

00:20:59.920 I'd rather not get that high, but I like mimosas.

00:21:03.300 They're cheap.

00:21:04.060 They're nice.

00:21:05.420 And the last girl I actually took out, I was drinking mimosas.

00:21:08.960 She was actually ordering draft beers.

00:21:11.720 So, that was a little shocking.

00:21:13.340 Was that bad?

00:21:14.440 No, it was just unique.

00:21:16.540 Kind of impressive.

00:21:17.660 Can I chime in?

00:21:18.240 I want to say I'd rather get drinks than go on a first date with someone and have to sit

00:21:22.580 through dinner.

00:21:23.540 Because I feel like dinner, you're just like stuck there.

00:21:26.440 You never take a girl out to dinner on the first date. 0.95

00:21:29.120 Dinner's bad.

00:21:29.820 If you take a girl out to dinner on the first date, they're going to expect a second. 1.00

00:21:33.640 Even if they don't want to see you for a second or a third date or a fourth date, they're

00:21:36.680 just going to say, hey, let's hang out again.

00:21:38.200 Let's go get dinner.

00:21:39.220 I'm not feeding you for free.

00:21:40.900 It's not even that, though.

00:21:41.920 It's just like it's so much commitment.

00:21:43.660 It's like I don't even know if I like you.

00:21:45.340 And drinks, it's so casual.

00:21:47.040 You can be like, okay, one drink.

00:21:48.560 I need to go meet friends, whatnot.

00:21:50.760 Dinner, you're just there and you're locked in.

00:21:53.720 Yeah.

00:21:54.080 I feel that.

00:21:54.940 And you can always cut off whenever you need to.

00:21:57.380 Dinner's a no.

00:21:58.280 Dinner's a no.

00:21:59.040 Yeah.

00:21:59.540 And it's just the waiter comes and interrupts you.

00:22:02.600 It's awkward.

00:22:03.940 And then you have to look at the menu, but you also just meh.

00:22:06.540 It's just.

00:22:07.380 So I'll take a girl out for some mimosas. 1.00

00:22:09.560 I'll maybe get a order of fries.

00:22:11.100 That's about it.

00:22:13.280 Got something to snack on.

00:22:14.580 Got something to sip on.

00:22:15.980 And that's a pretty good first date for me.

00:22:18.120 Yeah.

00:22:18.280 As far as food goes, too, it's just kind of awkward because if you're having the first

00:22:23.060 date, there's kind of a if it gets silent, it can be a bit awkward.

00:22:26.780 So, like, if you actually want to eat, I don't know about you guys.

00:22:30.000 I don't like to really talk and eat too much.

00:22:31.460 I want to eat.

00:22:32.520 So it's just kind of like, yeah, no food dates.

00:22:34.920 But Candace, by the way, thank you for re-upping your membership.

00:22:37.420 Really appreciate you.

00:22:38.240 Thank you.

00:22:39.720 Oh.

00:22:40.940 And but since we're on the topic really quick of the food thing, so I want to go around

00:22:45.000 the table.

00:22:45.700 Who should pay on the first date? 0.95

00:22:47.520 Oh, depends on the financial situation.

00:22:50.480 For example, currently, I'm in a very good position and I always offer to split.

00:22:58.640 However, when I was not doing so well, it would have meant a lot to me for the guy to

00:23:04.240 offer.

00:23:04.980 So I will never be upset if the guy wants to split on the first date.

00:23:08.200 It will never influence my opinion of him in any way.

00:23:11.520 However, you know, it means a lot if he puts the effort in because it means he saw something

00:23:17.480 in that date that really he wanted to invest in.

00:23:21.680 Before I have you go, Flan Life, thank you for the 10 gifted memberships, man.

00:23:25.220 Really appreciate it.

00:23:26.420 StreamYard has to get it together so that we can actually pull up when someone gifts

00:23:29.860 memberships.

00:23:31.000 But dude, thank you for the big 10 gifted memberships there, man.

00:23:34.260 Really appreciate the seaport.

00:23:37.160 Thank you, man.

00:23:37.640 Hold on.

00:23:38.140 Wait.

00:23:38.900 Woo-hoo! 1.00

00:23:40.240 Grats me, boys!

00:23:41.720 Thank you, man.

00:23:42.280 Appreciate it.

00:23:44.040 What do you think?

00:23:44.780 I think splitting the bill is perfectly fine.

00:23:46.900 If they want to offer to pay, you know, that's okay too.

00:23:50.560 That's nice, but I'm fine splitting the bill.

00:23:53.220 Okay.

00:23:53.500 If you split the bill, you're not seeing him again.

00:23:55.960 Let's just be honest.

00:23:56.940 Come on.

00:23:57.980 That's not how it's worked out for me in the past.

00:24:01.560 Guy might be going through some stuff.

00:24:03.100 You never know.

00:24:04.660 I'm splitting the check.

00:24:06.760 Really?

00:24:07.400 I'm splitting the check.

00:24:08.560 See, that's ideal in an ideal world.

00:24:11.820 But as a man, you should never split the check, especially on the first day.

00:24:16.060 Here's the thing, though.

00:24:18.160 So, okay, you're talking about being a gentleman, correct?

00:24:20.740 Absolutely.

00:24:21.700 Sure.

00:24:22.180 I'll give you that.

00:24:24.220 We're in Southern California, fairly liberal place, right?

00:24:28.920 In order for you to be a gentleman, she has to be a lady. 1.00

00:24:31.780 Correct.

00:24:32.840 So, and by the way, I think you're not wrong.

00:24:35.820 I don't think you're wrong.

00:24:36.640 But just for me personally, as a matter of principle, I don't believe in paying for a girl on the first date.

00:24:43.380 I don't believe it either, but here I am doing it. 0.97

00:24:46.520 Well, no, but see, here's where you win, though, is because, see, this is my shitty hill to die on. 0.94

00:24:51.100 Because, yes, it does lose me girls. 0.89

00:24:52.960 But, as a man of principle, as a man of principle, well, I'm not saying you're not, but I just, I'm not going to adhere to my traditional gender roles when most women are not adhering to their traditional gender roles. 0.97

00:25:10.400 You know, I've said that before, but here's the thing.

00:25:14.080 You're doing the maximum, you're doing what's right that will get you the best result.

00:25:21.100 Yeah, otherwise, why waste your time?

00:25:23.960 Go ahead.

00:25:24.400 So, you mentioned, you were like, okay, well, ladies have to act like ladies. 1.00

00:25:28.560 So, would you be more inclined to not split the bill if she presented herself as a lady or more ladylike?

00:25:38.140 Perhaps.

00:25:38.900 Okay.

00:25:39.340 Perhaps.

00:25:39.600 Or does that even classify as that?

00:25:40.540 Exactly.

00:25:41.080 What does that classify as?

00:25:43.100 Low body count.

00:25:44.020 A high value woman.

00:25:44.920 Low body count, not promiscuous.

00:25:48.520 She has to give off those vibes.

00:25:49.860 And what's considerably a low body count?

00:25:52.420 I mean, it depends on age, but like, and honestly, anything over 10, that's an eyebrow raise for me.

00:25:57.960 Okay.

00:25:58.200 But what about if she has a really low body count, but then she has an OnlyFans like me? 1.00

00:26:03.160 Has she?

00:26:04.960 Here's where I differ with some men.

00:26:06.800 I would.

00:26:07.560 Okay.

00:26:07.820 If she's done anything with men.

00:26:10.900 On OF?

00:26:11.540 No.

00:26:11.780 No nudes either.

00:26:13.400 No.

00:26:13.700 But if she's doing solo content, I could, I could date a girl who does solo content.

00:26:18.540 But any like hardcore, uh, boy girl.

00:26:21.920 Right.

00:26:22.260 No.

00:26:22.640 Cause I've never had any problems with guys being like, oh, you have an OF?

00:26:26.520 I think because I don't do like boy girl or pornography or nudes or anything like that.

00:26:33.300 It's like, it's a spectrum, obviously.

00:26:35.120 Yeah.

00:26:35.580 It's from like.

00:26:36.440 I think there's a huge discrimination between, you know, just posting like lewd cosplay and

00:26:41.920 then actually like doing like solo videos and stuff like that.

00:26:46.700 Yeah.

00:26:47.000 There's a big difference.

00:26:47.900 I mean, you have like, like you said, there's tasteful lingerie photos all the way to gang

00:26:54.340 bangs.

00:26:55.040 Right.

00:26:55.580 Exactly.

00:26:55.860 And it's all on there.

00:26:57.360 You know.

00:26:57.860 So it's hard.

00:26:58.900 Yeah.

00:26:59.280 Yeah.

00:26:59.780 It's really interesting too, as an OnlyFans creator, because you're classified as OnlyFans

00:27:03.980 creators and there's such a spectrum.

00:27:05.840 But you asked, would I pay on the date if she had a low body count, but she did OF? 1.00

00:27:10.760 Or yeah, just posted provocative pictures online.

00:27:13.260 She's probably making so much money from OF. 0.90

00:27:15.020 She should probably pay for both of us, to be honest.

00:27:17.900 In an ideal world, yeah, but they're still going to make their thousands and thousands

00:27:21.620 of dollars.

00:27:22.240 And as a man, they're still going to expect you to pay.

00:27:26.200 Well, they can expect all they want.

00:27:27.620 I expect, are us as men, like, okay, that's men adhering to their traditional gender roles.

00:27:33.220 By the way, I want to say you're not wrong, but this is just me from my point of view.

00:27:38.020 Are we then supposed to expect women to be virgins when we meet them? 0.98

00:27:42.780 No, absolutely.

00:27:44.040 Basically, nobody is at this point.

00:27:45.480 Well, tradition is out the window, so then why do I need to do the traditional courtship

00:27:51.560 if you are no longer traditional, is what I'm getting at.

00:27:55.400 It keeps your standards as a man.

00:27:57.280 It sets the baseline of what you accept in your life.

00:28:00.220 And if they don't appreciate that, then you don't have to see them again.

00:28:05.400 And also, you should get those vibes from somebody before you go on a date with them.

00:28:08.600 So, if you don't start out by courting them, when do you?

00:28:12.040 When do I what?

00:28:13.000 When do you, I don't know, when is there more courtship for you?

00:28:18.440 Like, if you start off on a certain foot, do you think it's easier to be more romantic

00:28:24.960 going forward, or would you rather not start off on a romantic foot?

00:28:29.180 That's taking away the whole gesture of paying the bill.

00:28:31.740 I'm just saying in general.

00:28:33.200 I'll start paying if we're in a relationship, and we're exclusive.

00:28:37.340 See, at that point, I think if we're in a relationship, then you should be offering

00:28:41.900 to split 50-50.

00:28:44.160 Because, I mean, you're in a partnership at that point.

00:28:48.420 Whether it goes long-term, or whether it's short-term, why should I waste all my money

00:28:53.040 on you if we don't even know what the outcome is going to be?

00:28:55.900 I think it's less about traditional rules and more about if you want to take someone out

00:28:59.520 and treat them, and you really like them, then you do it.

00:29:02.140 I also think it goes with, like, if you're asking a girl on the date, and you just don't,

00:29:06.540 like, I mean, I always offer, but if someone asks me on a date, and I offer, and we split

00:29:11.780 it, for me, it's kind of an ick.

00:29:15.380 Wait.

00:29:16.080 Yep.

00:29:16.420 So, hold on.

00:29:17.560 Just so we're clear.

00:29:18.940 Yeah.

00:29:19.720 So, you go on a date, and...

00:29:23.000 Because they ask me.

00:29:24.220 Right.

00:29:24.480 They ask you.

00:29:25.380 You will offer...

00:29:27.420 So, you'll speak words that you don't mean, but you...

00:29:33.080 No, I mean, I don't mind paying, but I will say it's a bit of a turnoff when they do split

00:29:37.320 it.

00:29:37.500 Well, then why make the offer?

00:29:38.780 Because I have the money, and I'm willing to pay.

00:29:41.980 It's also just polite.

00:29:43.240 See, I appreciate the offer, but I'm never going to let you pay.

00:29:46.960 And see, like, to me, that's, like, bonus points.

00:29:48.980 You know, the guys...

00:29:49.540 Exactly.

00:29:50.060 It's bonus points.

00:29:51.020 It's bonus points.

00:29:52.200 Not...

00:29:52.280 I agree.

00:29:52.620 I go on a lot of dates, and not a lot of girls offer the pay. 0.98

00:29:55.780 There is bonus points.

00:29:56.440 And if they're asking you out, as well, they're wanting to take you on a date, so, you know.

00:30:01.040 Well, okay.

00:30:01.480 We'll come back to that point, but just to address your thing.

00:30:03.960 So, you said that you'll offer, but if they take you up on said offer...

00:30:11.260 Oh, I'll split it.

00:30:11.380 I'll split it.

00:30:11.820 You'll split it, but you said you get the ick.

00:30:14.020 I do.

00:30:14.600 I mean, I will not...

00:30:15.860 This is how men and women communicate differently. 0.97

00:30:18.560 Men meet...

00:30:19.680 Men mean what they say with no ulterior motive.

00:30:23.180 But you just said, I will offer, you'll make the gesture, but if someone takes you up on

00:30:29.220 said gesture, you will feel negatively about that.

00:30:33.200 I mean, just that instance, it doesn't mean that I will reject a second date, but I will

00:30:37.040 say, like, if someone offers to pay it after I split it, I think, again, it's bonus points.

00:30:43.120 But you shouldn't make the offer if you're going to feel negatively about it.

00:30:46.960 I also think it's kind of a test of generosity, too.

00:30:49.320 I think they're testing you.

00:30:50.780 A test of generosity?

00:30:52.360 Mm-hmm.

00:30:52.660 To see how much you want to invest in them, I guess.

00:30:54.900 Like, it's a bonus if he's, like, going to be invested in this relationship.

00:30:58.520 Well, I don't feel particularly generous where in 2022, when the dating meta is people

00:31:07.720 are sleeping with multiple people at the same time, I don't really want to pay for a girl 1.00

00:31:13.220 if she's hooking up with another guy. 0.99

00:31:15.400 Well, the problem is...

00:31:16.060 And most people are hooking up. 0.76

00:31:17.120 We're in Southern California.

00:31:18.280 Most people have two, three things going on at the same time.

00:31:22.420 So I never leave my home.

00:31:23.100 The problem is most of the girls that you're seeing, all the other guys that they're seeing 0.86

00:31:27.520 are all paying for them as well.

00:31:29.960 They can have them.

00:31:30.820 You're just shooting yourself in the foot.

00:31:32.700 Well, you don't know how long you want them.

00:31:34.520 How long do you want them?

00:31:35.440 Do you want them for a night, or do you want them for a year, or do you want them for 20 years?

00:31:39.480 You don't know.

00:31:40.280 And it also sounds like you don't trust your own judgment when it comes to the women that

00:31:44.680 you're picking.

00:31:45.920 You would be surprised.

00:31:47.000 There are some very unassuming women that have multiple partners, and they might not 1.00

00:31:53.500 be partiers.

00:31:54.260 They might not be clubbing all the time.

00:31:56.160 Trust me. 0.65

00:31:56.560 There are some very unassuming, shy, quiet, reserved, demure women that are promiscuous. 1.00

00:32:03.500 No, I don't doubt it.

00:32:04.420 And you wouldn't know if you looked at them or met them.

00:32:06.460 Are you asking the right questions?

00:32:09.360 What do you mean?

00:32:09.740 Do you start off on the right foot?

00:32:10.960 Like, what's your body count?

00:32:12.180 That's not...

00:32:12.440 Like, what your expectations are.

00:32:14.260 If you want a relationship, or if you just want to talk, or whatever.

00:32:16.060 Even women who are seeking long-term relationships have some friends with benefits, some guy, 0.90

00:32:21.380 they're still stuck on their ex.

00:32:23.480 There's always, like, some dude...

00:32:25.480 Hold on.

00:32:25.760 There's always some guy in the picture for most women. 1.00

00:32:28.040 Go ahead.

00:32:28.600 I think that, unfortunately, that's just kind of the dating, like, zeitgeist right now.

00:32:34.240 Because of Tinder and stuff, lots of guys are seeing multiple women as well.

00:32:39.160 The top percent of men are seeing multiple women.

00:32:41.620 I guess just because...

00:32:42.600 The top 10, maybe top 20% of men.

00:32:45.080 I'll say that most of my dating experience comes from her.

00:32:48.560 Hold on.

00:32:48.980 You got to talk into the mic.

00:32:49.960 Most of my dating experience comes secondhand from Alex's stories.

00:32:54.380 So...

00:32:54.860 And we mostly interact with people within our industry.

00:32:59.060 Which is YouTubers, SoundCloud rappers, and, you know, the bunch.

00:33:04.720 So, it's like, all the guys have multiple girls, too.

00:33:09.260 And it's...

00:33:10.900 Okay.

00:33:11.220 It made me so repulsed that I, like, don't go anywhere.

00:33:15.220 And I don't date in my industry.

00:33:17.280 I don't do any of that.

00:33:18.260 So, it's just kind of like...

00:33:21.100 It happens to women as well. 1.00

00:33:23.400 Well, here...

00:33:23.900 Okay.

00:33:24.080 You said all the guys.

00:33:25.880 You're getting us something a little bit confused.

00:33:28.580 The top 10, top 20% of men that 80% of women are chasing, those men have three, four girls

00:33:36.840 they're seeing.

00:33:37.340 But you look at average men or the normal guy, he's dating 1% of the time, if he's lucky.

00:33:45.140 Whereas, average women can have multiple partners concurrently. 1.00

00:33:50.080 Are you saying that there is a large percentage of average women that have multiple partners 0.99

00:33:54.340 right now?

00:33:55.220 Yes.

00:33:56.020 I'd agree with that.

00:33:57.120 So, maybe we could do, like, a poll just out of the few women here. 1.00

00:34:01.840 Who are willing to disclose their relationship status because I know you don't want to.

00:34:05.500 Well, I have a question for you, Brian.

00:34:06.980 Yeah.

00:34:07.320 So, when you're going on these dates with women, are you going one by one and you're

00:34:10.020 not talking to anyone else?

00:34:10.840 You're not hooking up with anyone else while going on dates?

00:34:14.160 I'm so busy that if I do go on a date with a girl that I actually, yes, I'm only seeing

00:34:19.160 one girl at a time.

00:34:20.200 And you're not hooking up with anyone else?

00:34:21.780 No.

00:34:22.720 Okay.

00:34:23.140 Then that's fair.

00:34:24.100 You're allowed to have your viewpoints.

00:34:26.220 You're expecting the woman that you're going on a date with to be the same way as you.

00:34:31.360 One night stands having a couple chicks. 0.60

00:34:34.160 I don't have time for it because I'm incredibly busy.

00:34:37.820 If some guys are cool juggling with it, honestly, I don't want the headache.

00:34:42.700 I've done it in the past, briefly.

00:34:48.340 It's just, it's too much hassle to be dealing with multiple women at the same time. 1.00

00:34:53.360 So, let's put it this way then.

00:34:54.380 So, say you were going to ask a girl on a date.

00:34:56.660 Would you expect that girl, say she was seeing, just hooking up with someone prior to even

00:35:01.060 going on a date with you?

00:35:01.860 Are you expecting her? 0.99

00:35:02.620 That's disgusting. 0.97

00:35:03.420 Sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off, but go ahead. 0.78

00:35:05.620 Say she was, you know, had a hookup buddy or she had somebody she was involved with prior

00:35:10.260 to going on a date with you and then you guys connect online or however you connect with

00:35:13.980 women and you go on a date with her. 1.00

00:35:15.980 Are you expecting that she has dropped every single man before going on a first date with

00:35:19.180 you?

00:35:19.340 When you say she's hooking up with someone, are you talking like that day?

00:35:22.740 Like the day we go on a date, she hooked up with a guy?

00:35:25.080 No, not necessarily that day.

00:35:26.340 I'm saying just in general, say she has somebody that she occasionally hooks up with and then

00:35:29.900 you guys connect and you ask her on a date.

00:35:31.900 Are you expecting her to drop whoever she is involved with previously before going on that

00:35:38.640 date with you and having a complete clean slate?

00:35:41.160 Well, here's the, I guess the complicated situation is she's not going to tell me.

00:35:45.800 She's not going to tell me.

00:35:46.820 She's going to lie.

00:35:47.460 No, okay, so you're saying in a scenario where I knew, like I knew that she had another

00:35:51.920 guy in the picture?

00:35:53.180 No, okay, say for example, you and I met online and you had no idea of who I'm involved with,

00:35:58.580 but I'm single, I'm single, but that doesn't disclose like maybe somebody I had in the past

00:36:03.820 that I hook up with once in a while, but I agree to go on a date with you.

00:36:07.800 Do you, in your mind, expect that I completely clean my slate of whoever I in the recent past

00:36:15.620 may have been involved with before going on a date with you first?

00:36:18.820 Well, first off, I would ask you, why are you occasionally hooking up with someone occasionally

00:36:25.400 from time to time?

00:36:26.160 But you don't know that information.

00:36:26.820 No, I'm saying you don't know that information.

00:36:28.620 Say you find out after the date.

00:36:30.280 Let's, okay.

00:36:31.120 In a perfect world for you.

00:36:32.340 I mean, I'll try to answer it as simply as possible.

00:36:34.360 If I know before I even go on a date with a girl, if it somehow occurs to me or somehow

00:36:39.900 I find out or maybe it comes up organically in conversation, goodbye.

00:36:47.040 I don't want to talk to you anymore.

00:36:48.960 So then what you're saying is you're...

00:36:50.920 I don't want anything to do with a girl that's sleeping with someone else. 1.00

00:36:54.680 I don't want to go on a date with you.

00:36:56.720 I don't want to kiss you.

00:36:57.540 I don't want to have... 0.99

00:36:58.220 I certainly don't want to have sex with you. 0.98

00:37:00.440 Sadly, in LA, that's every girl. 0.99

00:37:02.860 You can't really avoid that.

00:37:04.080 You can't avoid that.

00:37:04.420 But just to answer my question.

00:37:06.300 So you're saying, yes, you would like somebody who is completely uninvolved with anybody before

00:37:11.160 ever meeting you.

00:37:12.200 They practically have to be a virgin for that to happen. 0.69

00:37:15.100 I mean, they could have ex-boyfriends, but...

00:37:18.200 Right.

00:37:18.800 But nobody in the recent past.

00:37:21.480 I think I kind of get it because I'm a little bit the same way.

00:37:26.600 I'm really, really picky with who I date, and I won't sleep with someone unless I'm

00:37:31.340 in love with them, which is hard in LA.

00:37:34.340 That's why I say I don't date in my industry.

00:37:36.460 But it makes it really hard to find a partner.

00:37:39.260 And also, it's not necessarily them talking to someone else is a problem.

00:37:45.460 But if they're involved with someone else, it would give me the ick if I went to go on

00:37:51.260 a first date with them, and I know in the back of my mind that they're involved with

00:37:54.940 someone else.

00:37:55.620 It would be hard for me to get through that.

00:37:57.280 But I'm saying, like, unknowing that type of information, like, say, I don't know, say

00:38:02.320 you have a hookup buddy that you've been seeing and hooking up with for the last year, but you're

00:38:07.540 still dating around.

00:38:08.200 You guys are under the...

00:38:09.200 Say you don't just have sex with people that you're in love with. 0.98

00:38:12.880 Sure.

00:38:13.220 A different universe.

00:38:14.360 Yeah, in a different universe.

00:38:15.520 Say you're hooking up with a guy, I'm going to say about a year, but you guys both are under

00:38:19.120 the understanding.

00:38:19.900 It's just something physical between the two of you.

00:38:21.860 You have a physical connection, but you don't have any romantic interests, so you're opening

00:38:25.700 up your romantic self up to going on dates or multiple dates or whatever.

00:38:31.000 But if, say, those dates don't work out, you still want to still hook up with the guy that

00:38:37.260 you've been seeing physically for the last year.

00:38:40.780 How does that...

00:38:42.320 Like, what my question is, is like, from Brian's point of view, would he expect you to have

00:38:49.000 a complete clear slate just to go on a date with him?

00:38:51.720 I see what you're saying.

00:38:53.100 Like, whether he knows that information or not.

00:38:54.820 See, everything, initially, unless you already meet out at night, at a nightclub, at a club,

00:39:00.800 at a bar, something, it's initially going to start off as a date, as an interaction.

00:39:05.080 You meet at a grocery store, and you're not going to expect somebody to have no other partners.

00:39:09.200 But, at the end of the day, I want it just as bad as maybe you want it, and you're not

00:39:15.700 going to tell me that, but that might be the only thing you offer.

00:39:20.600 That might be the only thing you can offer me, whether you tell me that or not, whether

00:39:24.120 I decided that or not.

00:39:25.740 I want it, and whether I'm going to wrap it up, if that's all you can offer me, that's

00:39:32.380 what I'm going to take.

00:39:33.160 Like, and I don't have to take anything else if I think you're promiscuous. 0.92

00:39:39.020 Yeah, that's completely your choice, and I'm just asking out of curiosity for Brian's

00:39:43.920 point of view.

00:39:45.340 So, just the question is, just so I make sure I answer it properly, the question is what?

00:39:52.500 Sorry, there's been so many additives to it.

00:39:57.540 But, my question is, so from my understanding, you obviously unknowingly or...

00:40:03.100 Eric, you can hide that.

00:40:05.840 Is text-to-speech not working?

00:40:10.840 That's strange. 0.94

00:40:13.860 They're all ugly. 1.00

00:40:14.980 Cap. 0.99

00:40:16.740 Oh, it takes a bit of time.

00:40:18.040 That's rude.

00:40:18.660 I think I'm pretty cute.

00:40:19.720 Thank you very much.

00:40:20.480 Wait, is the sound muted?

00:40:24.500 It also, I think I missed one of them. 0.97

00:40:27.380 Shit, guys, I'm so sorry. 0.92

00:40:29.260 I guess text-to-speech is bugged. 0.84

00:40:31.140 Sorry if you guys superchatted.

00:40:33.220 We will pull up your superchats normally.

00:40:35.540 Sorry, guys, it's brand new.

00:40:36.880 We'll get the TTS fixed.

00:40:38.820 Sorry, guys, my bad.

00:40:40.140 Sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off there.

00:40:41.380 What were you saying?

00:40:42.200 No, it's okay.

00:40:42.840 So, because I was trying to understand your point of view, and I can completely understand

00:40:47.060 where you're saying, like, I don't want to knowingly be with a woman that 1.00

00:40:50.440 is hooking up with somebody else or seeing other dudes while going on a date with me.

00:40:55.140 But I guess my question is, without knowing what this woman is involved with, 0.67

00:41:02.840 and you just found interest in her, whether it be conversation, first meeting, whatever,

00:41:06.980 are you expecting whoever she was previously involved with to meeting you to be cleared

00:41:14.260 just for the first date?

00:41:17.760 I don't think, I mean, I don't think that people should be, maybe this is a radical idea,

00:41:24.680 I think people should date one person at a time.

00:41:26.780 So, I'm coming, if I'm going to be talking to a girl, if I'm going to be sleeping with 0.99

00:41:35.800 a girl, I'm just sleeping with her. 1.00

00:41:38.240 Okay.

00:41:39.040 So.

00:41:40.080 But what if you're a man that can do the same thing that a woman can? 0.92

00:41:44.240 I can do it.

00:41:45.400 You can have four to five, six guys.

00:41:47.540 What if you are a high-value man that has 10, 20 girls on the lineup?

00:41:54.600 That's a lot of time.

00:41:56.180 That takes a lot of time.

00:41:57.640 I'm so busy, I don't have time for that.

00:41:59.380 How are you running your businesses?

00:42:01.460 I only see them when I feel like it.

00:42:05.880 So, the exact thing you're wanting to ask some girls you're not willing to give yourself?

00:42:10.440 No.

00:42:10.740 Asking what?

00:42:11.800 He doesn't, he doesn't, he's not operating the same way I'm operating.

00:42:15.400 So, and don't get me wrong, I'm still looking out for a wife out here, but I'm being picky

00:42:21.440 and I'm going to have my fun in the meantime.

00:42:23.380 You're entertaining your options.

00:42:24.740 And that's fine.

00:42:25.580 That's fine.

00:42:26.280 Just, I'm moving a bit, I'm moving a bit differently.

00:42:30.140 So, I'm just still, still trying to parse what the question.

00:42:36.320 You answered my question.

00:42:37.580 I guess, I'll just, I'll just, I have a new one for him.

00:42:41.600 Oh, yeah.

00:42:42.200 Okay, you go ahead.

00:42:42.960 I'm sorry.

00:42:44.220 Go ahead.

00:42:44.740 So, I'm just gonna, if I somehow find out that she's seeing another guy, she's dating 0.96

00:42:54.980 a whole bunch of other guys, she's sleeping with another guy, if I find that out, I'm done.

00:43:01.320 Oh, absolutely.

00:43:01.940 I'm done.

00:43:02.640 I'm out. 0.99

00:43:03.320 I don't want to have sex with you, I don't want to kiss you, I don't want anything. 0.95

00:43:05.500 You know that song by The Weeknd? 0.93

00:43:06.660 And a girl can have the same standard. 1.00

00:43:07.860 Go ahead.

00:43:07.940 You know that song by The Weeknd?

00:43:09.380 I don't want to know.

00:43:11.480 Like, keep it on the low.

00:43:12.960 Like, you got a good voice, man.

00:43:14.260 Do you want to keep going?

00:43:15.080 Yeah, you got a good voice.

00:43:16.840 I do dabble in music here and there.

00:43:18.880 Okay.

00:43:19.240 But, um, we're not gonna know.

00:43:22.240 You're not gonna tell us.

00:43:23.780 You find, I find out.

00:43:26.180 Goodbye.

00:43:27.100 That's the end of it.

00:43:27.320 Okay, I have another question then, in regards to this question.

00:43:29.780 Okay, so say, say she was hooking up with somebody before going on a date with you. 0.90

00:43:34.580 So, not, I'm not the same day, just in general.

00:43:36.780 And then you guys go on a date.

00:43:38.440 She realizes, oh my gosh, Brian is the love of my life.

00:43:41.740 Goodbye to my roster.

00:43:42.900 But then you find out she had a roster prior to you.

00:43:45.540 Are you still gonna be done?

00:43:46.860 How big is the roster?

00:43:47.980 Wait.

00:43:48.880 It's subjective.

00:43:50.320 It's a what?

00:43:51.960 I said the roster.

00:43:53.240 He said how many people on the roster.

00:43:54.320 I said it's subjective.

00:43:55.080 I said the idea of you finding out after she drops her roster after you guys' first date

00:44:01.760 and decides, you know what?

00:44:02.480 I'm gonna stick to just Brian and Brian only.

00:44:04.480 But I had people that I was seeing and hooking up with and going on dates with prior to Brian.

00:44:09.180 Would you still be uninterested after finding out there were people prior to your first date?

00:44:16.160 If, okay, so if she drops them.

00:44:18.580 If we slept together and I find out that she had slept with someone close to when we had slept together

00:44:30.840 or after we had slept together, it's a wrap.

00:44:33.460 I'm only talking about beforehand.

00:44:36.660 How soon is too soon?

00:44:38.520 For what?

00:44:39.580 So say you slept with her. 1.00

00:44:41.100 Minimum a fortnight. 0.55

00:44:43.140 But even then, like, I want to say it would be nice if it was a couple months since the last time you had sex.

00:44:51.060 Which is asking a lot. 0.99

00:44:53.840 Because people be fucking. 0.99

00:44:55.740 People be fucking for sure. 1.00

00:44:58.100 No, my question now is, okay, so how long do you usually wait before having sex with a girl that you go on a date with? 0.99

00:45:05.840 How long do I usually wait? 0.99

00:45:07.000 Or how long do you, yeah, like, do you fuck on the first date? 0.99

00:45:10.600 Do you usually like to wait a bit and feel the girl out? 0.99

00:45:16.500 So I'll answer this in a semi-political way.

00:45:19.740 So how a politician might answer it.

00:45:21.780 So of the women I've had long-term relationships with, I've had a five-year relationship, I've had a two-year relationship,

00:45:28.140 I've had a one-year, one-and-a-half-year relationship, we hooked up relatively soon.

00:45:35.000 I'd say on either the second or third time meeting.

00:45:38.260 I think one of them might have been the first time.

00:45:43.020 But you can sleep with someone relatively quickly and not have a high body count and not be promiscuous.

00:45:52.680 See, my actual longest relationship, the eighth-month one, we hooked up on the second night.

00:45:58.460 But I will hook up on the first night, depends on the situation.

00:46:02.380 Like I said, I don't know if I'm going to want to see you again, depends, just depends, honestly.

00:46:07.500 So now for the guys, does sleeping with a girl on the first or second date deter your feelings for her?

00:46:13.320 Not at all.

00:46:14.140 Not at all.

00:46:15.300 And just because I'll sleep with you.

00:46:16.920 Because the passion's there, like it's there.

00:46:18.300 And just because they sleep with you on the first date, technically doesn't mean they're doing the same thing with every other guy.

00:46:23.360 Right, exactly.

00:46:24.300 And there will be girls that make you wait four dates, five dates, six dates, seven dates, and they've got body counts. 1.00

00:46:32.580 Like they've got 30, 40 bodies at once.

00:46:34.660 What if they're reformed?

00:46:35.880 What if they're reformed?

00:46:36.960 Like they're passed away.

00:46:37.800 It doesn't matter.

00:46:38.360 They were a hoe in the past. 1.00

00:46:39.720 It doesn't matter.

00:46:40.780 They were a hoe in the past. 1.00

00:46:42.040 You can't change that.

00:46:43.800 You can't change, you can't turn a hoe into a housewife? 1.00

00:46:45.920 Nope.

00:46:46.260 Oh, absolutely not.

00:46:47.420 Nope.

00:46:47.960 It's a wrap.

00:46:48.840 Men care about a woman's past. 0.99

00:46:50.960 See, women care about a man's future. 1.00

00:46:53.320 You want to be taken care of and provided for.

00:46:55.380 We care about your past.

00:46:57.400 So.

00:46:58.340 Interesting.

00:46:58.920 You can't change your past, but we can change our future.

00:47:01.280 I feel like men should care about women's futures much more.

00:47:05.780 Because the woman is going to be the mother of your children if you want kids. 1.00

00:47:10.200 She's going to be like holding down your household. 1.00

00:47:13.580 And please go ahead.

00:47:14.880 I was going to say like if you go on a date and like you really like really vibing with

00:47:19.320 this person, would you just like drop them if they told you that their body count was

00:47:24.800 above 10?

00:47:25.840 Like if you were really.

00:47:26.940 Oh, no.

00:47:27.600 So 10 doesn't.

00:47:28.380 But for you, 10 matters.

00:47:31.160 After 10 is an eyebrow raise.

00:47:32.800 It's not necessarily a disqualifier.

00:47:34.540 And it depends on age, too.

00:47:36.100 So what's a disqualifier?

00:47:36.780 Yeah, what is the number?

00:47:38.600 I mean.

00:47:41.580 I want to say if it depends on the age.

00:47:46.400 Okay.

00:47:46.840 Let's say like 25 and they're 25 years old and they have a body count of like what's

00:47:52.360 like 13, 14.

00:47:53.600 Is that is that a turn off?

00:47:55.640 It's a wobbler.

00:47:57.040 Really?

00:47:57.640 It's a wobbler.

00:47:59.000 I don't know.

00:47:59.860 It's a wobbler.

00:48:00.600 There was a girl the other day that was like a virgin until she was 27, right? 0.99

00:48:04.680 And then by the time she was 30, she had 30 bodies. 0.90

00:48:07.540 Oh, yeah.

00:48:08.240 She was on the show.

00:48:09.300 Yeah.

00:48:09.600 She was a virgin.

00:48:11.040 I have time, everybody.

00:48:12.180 I have.

00:48:13.300 It'll be fine.

00:48:15.720 Yeah.

00:48:16.080 They were roasting her.

00:48:17.500 They were roasting her. 1.00

00:48:18.380 Damn. 1.00

00:48:18.860 Wait. 1.00

00:48:19.120 So you're a virgin?

00:48:20.480 A hundred percent.

00:48:21.360 No.

00:48:21.680 Stop the cat. 1.00

00:48:23.740 No, I'm not.

00:48:24.700 I just don't date.

00:48:26.880 Okay.

00:48:27.220 That's fine.

00:48:27.600 Uh, it's hard to, it's kind of hard to put a number to it, but yeah, if she has a large 0.92

00:48:36.060 labia, I'll give her a pass. 1.00

00:48:37.120 How about that?

00:48:37.680 If she has a large what?

00:48:38.600 Labia.

00:48:39.000 Labia.

00:48:39.800 That's interesting.

00:48:40.900 Then it can be anything.

00:48:42.220 Whoa, whoa, whoa.

00:48:43.680 Whoa, whoa, whoa.

00:48:45.500 The larger the number, the larger the labia. 0.98

00:48:47.240 Yeah.

00:48:47.920 The larger the labia, the larger the one. 1.00

00:48:49.380 Wait, what was the, what's that face you're making?

00:48:52.540 There's no face.

00:48:53.800 Are you trying to tell us something?

00:48:56.040 Don't discriminate against the kitty.

00:48:57.360 You're not a fan of large labias?

00:48:58.360 Do it hang low.

00:48:58.880 There's no face.

00:49:00.100 No face?

00:49:00.720 There was a bit of a face.

00:49:02.500 A bit of a face.

00:49:03.560 Slight face.

00:49:04.640 It's okay if there was a face.

00:49:05.800 I didn't catch it.

00:49:07.100 So you're not, not in favor of the...

00:49:08.800 No comment.

00:49:10.360 Are you a labia shamer? 0.99

00:49:12.320 Do you shame labias? 0.99

00:49:15.700 Okay, moving on.

00:49:17.600 All right, let's get these super chats.

00:49:19.060 There's a surgery for that.

00:49:21.160 Don't, don't do the surgery, guys.

00:49:22.960 No, no, no.

00:49:23.860 Seriously.

00:49:24.100 Don't discriminate on the kitty.

00:49:26.020 Yo, Davon Jackson, thank you for the $50 soup chat.

00:49:29.560 Oh, this was one of the TTSs that came through.

00:49:32.040 Hey, thank you, man.

00:49:32.560 Appreciate it.

00:49:33.020 Sorry that the other TTSs didn't come through.

00:49:35.320 Sorry, guys.

00:49:36.520 Yo, Alexander Nouveau, thank you for the $10 soup chat.

00:49:39.060 Who runs the Twitter?

00:49:39.780 Brian or Eric?

00:49:40.480 I'm in LA.

00:49:41.060 I'm trying to pull up to SB and be on the panel.

00:49:43.080 I got some views.

00:49:44.360 You'd appreciate DM at whatever on Instagram.

00:49:48.740 I rarely use Twitter, so.

00:49:50.340 Flann Life, thank you for the Canadian $10, man.

00:49:53.240 Or, excuse me, $50.

00:49:54.680 Thank you, man.

00:49:55.080 Appreciate it.

00:49:55.520 Dune the White, are you still mad you were never able to get a reservation at Dorsia?

00:49:59.620 We're never going to get away from these references.

00:50:01.420 She had to pick Dorsia.

00:50:02.840 Why Dorsia?

00:50:04.940 He's got to return some tapes.

00:50:06.380 All right, we got Bean Cheeks here with the $10 soup chat.

00:50:08.300 Grown in white and pink bunny ears.

00:50:10.520 I'm cis PMP? 1.00

00:50:12.900 The fuck is this? 1.00

00:50:13.840 Do you know what that is? 1.00

00:50:14.620 Oh, he's a security architect.

00:50:16.580 I get what you mean in the privacy.

00:50:18.060 He shouldn't have said you're September data.

00:50:19.780 I know.

00:50:20.560 Trust me.

00:50:21.100 I know.

00:50:21.540 It was a big mistake I made.

00:50:23.080 And then I consulted with my former, you know, partner, sent my cybersecurity firm.

00:50:28.880 And they were like, hey, just don't give any other important information out.

00:50:32.740 Oh, okay.

00:50:33.880 All right.

00:50:34.960 I guess he's backing you up on that one.

00:50:36.520 I guess she wasn't the captain.

00:50:38.560 Yo, Bean Cheeks, thank you for the $20 soup chat. 0.98

00:50:40.360 Damn, if a cybersecurity person can do OnlyFans, I have hope for myself. 0.97

00:50:44.600 Keep an eye out. 0.99

00:50:45.740 Feet pics coming in hot.

00:50:47.420 Get out of that programmer dungeon and into LA, baby.

00:50:54.020 Boom.

00:50:54.320 There you go.

00:50:55.160 All right.

00:50:55.380 We have Davon Jackson here.

00:50:56.760 $10 soup chat. 1.00

00:50:57.440 Friends who fuck me sometimes. 1.00

00:50:58.840 I believe this is. 1.00

00:50:59.420 Okay.

00:50:59.760 Okay.

00:50:59.980 I want to clarify.

00:51:02.120 I'm going to clarify really quickly.

00:51:04.480 I'm not.

00:51:05.180 Okay.

00:51:05.380 Hook up brief terms. 0.79

00:51:06.520 I don't have sex with all these guys. 0.61

00:51:09.480 Like, definitely not. 0.62

00:51:11.940 Just clarify.

00:51:13.020 It's not.

00:51:13.380 Stop the count.

00:51:14.240 No, no.

00:51:14.620 I'm being so serious.

00:51:15.860 Like, I feel like that's weird.

00:51:17.900 When's the last time you hooked up with one of your friends?

00:51:20.060 Last time.

00:51:21.920 Last night.

00:51:22.680 Winter break.

00:51:23.300 But.

00:51:23.900 Last winter break?

00:51:24.600 No, no, no.

00:51:25.160 Or this winter break? 0.95

00:51:25.920 Wait, like last time I had sex with one of my friends? 0.97

00:51:29.000 Yeah. 0.85

00:51:29.640 I've never had sex with any of my friends.

00:51:31.540 Well, you just.

00:51:31.920 So I'm saying, I'm saying hook up as in brief terms.

00:51:34.140 Cause like, like, I feel like.

00:51:37.440 Okay.

00:51:37.880 I shouldn't say hook up.

00:51:39.120 What should you say?

00:51:39.700 Just like getting with.

00:51:40.720 Like, I don't know.

00:51:41.660 I've like.

00:51:42.860 Making out?

00:51:43.600 Yeah.

00:51:44.540 Making out.

00:51:44.780 There we go.

00:51:45.460 Making out with my friends.

00:51:47.600 It was just a kiss.

00:51:48.460 You know, I'm being so serious.

00:51:50.660 Like, can you imagine if I'm like going through my entire guy friends and I'm having sex with 0.94

00:51:55.020 all of them? 0.89

00:51:55.460 Like, no, that's weird.

00:51:56.320 You know what's funny?

00:51:57.100 How many Europeans say making out is hooking up?

00:52:00.560 I consider.

00:52:01.480 That's true.

00:52:01.780 Actually, in Croatia, it's the same way.

00:52:03.340 I don't.

00:52:03.700 That's the weirdest thing I've ever heard.

00:52:05.460 But no.

00:52:06.260 Yeah.

00:52:06.820 Actually, no, you're right.

00:52:07.680 I think hooking. 0.94

00:52:08.520 When I think hooking up, I think sex. 0.99

00:52:10.080 Yeah. 0.91

00:52:10.920 Yeah.

00:52:12.020 You made out.

00:52:12.620 You didn't hook up. 0.97

00:52:12.900 Have you had sex with any of them?

00:52:14.660 Not my friends. 0.93

00:52:16.580 Okay.

00:52:16.840 So just random IV dudes or. 0.99

00:52:20.040 Those you have sex with your friends. 0.99

00:52:21.820 Yeah. 1.00

00:52:22.100 Cause I feel like.

00:52:22.780 For like.

00:52:23.600 I feel like it's like so intimate to do with like my friends.

00:52:26.300 You know what I mean?

00:52:26.720 Like maybe if I got there in the level like later, if I was like talking to them, whatever. 0.99

00:52:31.200 But like, I feel like it's weird to have sex with your friends. 0.83

00:52:34.740 As opposed to strangers? 0.96

00:52:36.280 Yeah.

00:52:37.120 But like.

00:52:37.860 Make that make sense?

00:52:38.160 I'm not going around. 0.97

00:52:39.060 Like I'm really not going around like having sex with all these people. 0.98

00:52:41.800 Like. 0.98

00:52:41.840 Sure.

00:52:42.380 Okay.

00:52:42.420 It's just like time and place.

00:52:45.440 And.

00:52:46.400 Yeah.

00:52:47.080 I don't know.

00:52:47.740 If it's in everybody's schedule, why not?

00:52:49.840 Like.

00:52:50.440 Yeah.

00:52:51.360 I want to come back really quickly to something you said.

00:52:53.660 You said that.

00:52:55.320 So on the date.

00:52:57.640 You'll offer.

00:52:59.720 To pay.

00:53:00.480 Yeah.

00:53:00.720 But if the guy takes you up on the offer.

00:53:02.940 Yeah.

00:53:03.140 You will do it. 1.00

00:53:04.500 But you will kind of be like the fuck. 1.00

00:53:06.660 Well, it's just a bit of a turn off. 1.00

00:53:08.400 I'm saying if someone.

00:53:10.300 Like is.

00:53:11.820 Pays for it.

00:53:13.680 He's like higher in my books.

00:53:15.300 And if we actually split it.

00:53:16.440 So can I ask you guys a question?

00:53:20.040 Is communication important?

00:53:21.860 Yes.

00:53:22.420 Absolutely.

00:53:23.060 Absolutely.

00:53:23.520 Yeah.

00:53:23.760 So, I mean.

00:53:25.420 How do you reconcile what you just said with.

00:53:30.740 Like communication being important because you're quite literally not like communicating.

00:53:36.460 That's the first lie.

00:53:37.300 That's like.

00:53:37.700 That's the first lie.

00:53:38.400 That's.

00:53:38.760 It's like.

00:53:39.420 Just because you get a turn off doesn't mean you're not communicating.

00:53:41.560 Yeah.

00:53:41.720 That's not communicating.

00:53:42.600 Like.

00:53:43.020 I'm just saying it's.

00:53:44.160 It's a bit of a turn off.

00:53:45.380 That's not not communicating.

00:53:46.920 But that would be frustrating for me if someone offered to do something and I took.

00:53:51.480 I took them up on it in good faith and then they were ups.

00:53:57.700 They were upset or I got negative brownie points because I accepted their offer.

00:54:05.100 I'd rather just you not even offer to be honest.

00:54:08.180 But I'm like.

00:54:08.520 I'm a polite person.

00:54:09.600 Like that's like what I would do.

00:54:11.000 Well, the polite thing would be to mean what you say.

00:54:13.100 And if you say that you're OK, like you're offering a split, if someone takes you up

00:54:17.340 on it, you should.

00:54:18.980 You should probably. 0.98

00:54:20.100 It is bullshit to take brownie points away if they do say, yeah, we can split it. 0.98

00:54:25.540 That is. 1.00

00:54:26.020 It is bullshit. 0.99

00:54:27.060 But I do appreciate the offer, but I won't let you do it. 0.99

00:54:31.240 But if we do split it for whatever reason, I know you're going to take the points away. 0.99

00:54:35.520 And that's bullshit. 0.95

00:54:36.880 Well, no, because you said that you wouldn't ever do it on a first date. 0.99

00:54:40.000 Like if we're dating, yeah, like I'm splitting the bill, like, but I'm saying the first date

00:54:43.620 if someone asked me on a first date, like I.

00:54:47.200 You just can't expect a second date if you do that.

00:54:49.680 Like if you actually split it, don't.

00:54:52.080 You got a 50-50 chance of getting that second date for that 50-50 bill.

00:54:57.100 Yeah.

00:54:57.600 I think there's never going to be like a set medium between people.

00:55:02.600 Like I feel like it's preference.

00:55:03.500 Like some people prefer to, like, break the traditions and, like, go for half and half,

00:55:08.320 which is, like, respectable.

00:55:09.720 But then there's obviously, like, people who prefer, like, the traditional role of men paying

00:55:15.340 for the first date.

00:55:16.960 And, like, it just depends on who it is.

00:55:18.640 I think it just goes back to who's asking who out.

00:55:21.500 If I'm asking a dude out, like, I'll pay.

00:55:23.120 That's important.

00:55:23.720 And I'm not saying you're not okay with paying.

00:55:25.640 Yeah.

00:55:25.920 You're saying they asked you out.

00:55:27.540 They asked me out.

00:55:27.880 Right.

00:55:28.140 They're taking the initiative.

00:55:29.340 So if they were communicating right, they want to take you out.

00:55:32.280 So I also think that dating in general is an investment, not only financially but emotionally

00:55:37.240 and mentally.

00:55:38.120 So I feel like if you're not in a place for all three, not saying that you're going to

00:55:41.380 be doing it the whole time, but if you're asking someone out with the intention of investing

00:55:47.080 in them, whether it be mentally, romantically, emotionally, or all of the above.

00:55:51.040 What about physically?

00:55:51.880 What if that's the only reason you asked the man on a date?

00:55:54.480 So that's still an investment.

00:55:56.580 All investments considered under the same umbrella.

00:55:58.600 That's so interesting, though, because if you are only interested in the physical, right?

00:56:04.340 I'm just saying it happens.

00:56:05.560 It happens.

00:56:06.060 It happens.

00:56:06.360 Right.

00:56:06.620 So in this scenario, you're only interested in the physical, right?

00:56:09.420 And you say you always pay through your dates, right?

00:56:13.340 It's an exchange.

00:56:14.060 Hold on.

00:56:14.500 Okay.

00:56:14.700 I'm just going to come in here just to move things along.

00:56:16.680 So just to kind of, you mentioned who should pay, whoever, sorry, whoever asks should

00:56:22.960 pay.

00:56:23.280 So round the table really quick.

00:56:24.640 Who do you think should pay on the first date? 0.99

00:56:27.320 You can split, but it's nice if he pays.

00:56:31.400 Same view with me.

00:56:32.680 Splitting the bill is fine, but if they want to pay, it's a nice gesture.

00:56:37.200 Okay.

00:56:37.540 So who pays?

00:56:40.460 I mean, if I offer to split the bill, they say, yeah, let's split it.

00:56:45.200 We split it.

00:56:46.020 Yeah.

00:56:46.320 But it is nice when someone wants to take care of you, wants to take you out.

00:56:49.880 It'll give me a special feeling after.

00:56:51.440 Okay.

00:56:51.720 So regardless of whoever asks, you should just, your stance is whoever, it should be split.

00:57:01.340 Regardless of who asks, just split.

00:57:03.440 Splitting the bill is fine.

00:57:04.120 Okay.

00:57:04.640 Go ahead.

00:57:05.320 I also kind of think it's like whoever asks.

00:57:07.060 Into the mic, please.

00:57:08.320 Sorry.

00:57:09.640 I think it depends on who asks.

00:57:11.180 The more polite thing is like, if you ask me on a date, it would be more polite for you

00:57:15.160 to pay for it, but I'm still going to offer and I'm still down to split that cost.

00:57:20.280 But I do, like, if I ask someone out, I'm going to pay for it.

00:57:24.920 Like, it goes both ways.

00:57:26.360 Like, if I slide into someone's DMs and I'm like, yeah, I want to go to dinner, I'm not

00:57:29.980 going to expect them to pay and I'm not going to, like, try to 50-50 it.

00:57:34.900 That's very fair.

00:57:35.760 I agree.

00:57:36.440 If I ask, I'm paying.

00:57:38.080 If the guy asks, he's paying.

00:57:40.220 I mean, you know where I stand, but I think we're all agreeing.

00:57:42.320 Here, just straight.

00:57:43.160 Straight.

00:57:43.360 We're all like, we would split, but it is nice if they pay.

00:57:47.720 I think that's, like, what everyone is saying.

00:57:49.780 Yeah.

00:57:51.300 Okay, but so.

00:57:52.500 Because everyone's like, we'll split, but.

00:57:55.380 I think rather than taking brownie points away if they don't pay, they get brownie points

00:57:59.800 if they want to treat you.

00:58:01.040 It's literally a cup half full versus empty situation.

00:58:04.720 It's the same thing.

00:58:06.200 Okay.

00:58:07.660 I think it's a case-by-case basis.

00:58:10.980 On what?

00:58:11.400 On what?

00:58:11.780 I mean, I'd probably be less inclined to want to split with somebody that I was on a horrible

00:58:21.220 date with or somebody that was disrespectful or didn't treat me well.

00:58:24.600 You'd be less inclined to split?

00:58:26.000 I would be more inclined.

00:58:26.440 I would be more.

00:58:27.220 That's.

00:58:27.540 Get out of my face. 0.99

00:58:28.980 I would pay for it.

00:58:29.580 No, I mean.

00:58:30.400 I don't owe you nothing.

00:58:31.560 No, no.

00:58:32.120 It's on me.

00:58:32.740 And I, because I've gone both ways.

00:58:36.000 Like, I have paid for dates and I have had dates paid for.

00:58:39.280 I've split.

00:58:40.380 It just, like I said, it depends on the connection of my opinion.

00:58:45.040 See, I am just too much of a gentleman and I pride myself on that.

00:58:48.300 I grew up always being a fan of the James Bond movies and the James Bond lifestyle.

00:58:54.760 I mean, that's why I love wearing suits.

00:58:56.600 I'm 27 now and I've always wanted to be in a stage in my life where I wear a suit because

00:59:01.480 I want to, not because I have to.

00:59:03.680 So being a gentleman is, is part of, I believe in male, in gender roles.

00:59:09.520 So picking up the first bill, opening the car door, stuff you should do.

00:59:15.680 If you want to court a woman, a high value woman, this is what you do. 0.74

00:59:22.680 Okay.

00:59:23.260 So a couple of you guys said whoever asks should, should pay, right?

00:59:28.340 Some, some of you would maybe agree with that.

00:59:30.220 Whoever asks should pay that.

00:59:32.420 So I'm going to ask, have you ever asked a guy out on a date?

00:59:36.560 Yes.

00:59:40.200 And I paid.

00:59:41.560 Yeah.

00:59:41.800 Same.

00:59:43.720 I have.

00:59:45.420 I have not.

00:59:47.100 But you earlier, you said that whoever asked should pay.

00:59:51.940 Yeah.

00:59:52.340 Well, I've never actually gone on a date.

00:59:54.200 So that's just in the future.

00:59:56.160 Rip.

00:59:56.300 Maybe.

00:59:56.680 Okay.

00:59:56.880 In the future.

00:59:57.960 It's in the works.

00:59:59.040 Okay.

00:59:59.620 Would you pay?

01:00:01.000 If I asked, 100% a day.

01:00:02.840 Okay.

01:00:03.280 Okay.

01:00:03.540 You've never been on a date.

01:00:04.540 That's fair.

01:00:04.780 I mean, you are in college.

01:00:05.820 I feel like most, how, how most interactions go in college.

01:00:09.740 It's like me to the party, come over, blah, blah, blah.

01:00:14.600 So go ahead.

01:00:15.620 Yeah.

01:00:15.820 I've asked someone on a date.

01:00:16.980 Okay.

01:00:18.160 Yeah, I have.

01:00:18.840 And I've paid before.

01:00:19.840 All right.

01:00:20.480 Okay.

01:00:21.560 All right.

01:00:22.640 Stop the cap. 0.94

01:00:23.460 There's a lot of cap in here.

01:00:24.100 There's no cap.

01:00:24.640 Y'all don't ask.

01:00:25.420 Come on.

01:00:26.000 All right.

01:00:26.260 Let me get these soup chats here.

01:00:27.640 Okay.

01:00:27.860 So did we do, oh, we did that one.

01:00:31.200 Okay.

01:00:31.520 We got Zora Sloss with the $10 soup chat.

01:00:33.640 Ladies, are you a 304? 1.00

01:00:34.860 Do you want to be a 304? 0.96

01:00:36.420 So why do women defend promiscuity with their life when you know it's wrong? 1.00

01:00:41.400 Promiscuous woman equals 304. 1.00

01:00:43.580 A man equals a 304 maker. 1.00

01:00:45.880 Your past body count matters to a man.

01:00:50.140 Yeah.

01:00:51.520 Do you want me to ask this?

01:00:54.900 Do any of you want to be promiscuous?

01:00:57.180 I want to be perceived as slightly promiscuous on my, I want to be perceived as slightly more

01:01:07.400 promiscuous than I am because I naturally am not at all on my social media because it

01:01:13.140 increases the money that I make month by month.

01:01:17.780 And, but I have very strong boundaries where I'm like, I can't do this because it makes

01:01:23.240 me feel weird.

01:01:23.920 I could never like actually film myself like, can we say that, masturbating or anything like

01:01:30.040 that because it's more like personal and stuff. 0.69

01:01:32.320 So I feel like I want to be more promiscuous because I think it would make me money.

01:01:37.140 I should learn how to be more promiscuous, but at the current moment, I'm not.

01:01:42.300 Wait, just curious for the two that are content creators, are you guys okay disclosing how much

01:01:48.160 you guys make from OF or your content creation total?

01:01:52.200 Like monthly or yearly or?

01:01:54.860 Monthly, yearly.

01:01:55.920 You can give a range.

01:01:56.840 Averages.

01:01:57.760 Yeah, I don't care.

01:01:58.780 Best month.

01:01:59.620 I was making like 20, like 21K a month.

01:02:02.960 Okay.

01:02:03.840 My best month has been like 34K.

01:02:06.720 34K?

01:02:07.320 Yeah.

01:02:07.720 Okay.

01:02:08.340 Cheers to that.

01:02:09.840 Okay.

01:02:10.500 So do you want to be promiscuous?

01:02:13.120 No.

01:02:13.280 Um, I mean, I'm not going to be like sleeping around, but I do think it's important to

01:02:18.860 be open about your sexuality.

01:02:20.580 Like I'm going to talk about it on the internet. 0.99

01:02:22.400 I'm going to talk to my friends about it, but I'm not like fucking everyone. 0.98

01:02:26.980 Yeah, no. 0.96

01:02:28.140 Let's just like to have fun, but not in like a, like too much, you know?

01:02:31.880 Sure.

01:02:32.880 No.

01:02:33.200 Um, was the question to be, wait, was the question to be asked, was asked, um, was the

01:02:42.600 question asked, um, do you want to be perceived as promiscuous or do you want to be promiscuous?

01:02:46.620 Do you want to actually be promiscuous?

01:02:49.360 No.

01:02:50.240 Okay.

01:02:50.600 Not this moment.

01:02:51.180 All right.

01:02:51.500 I suppose that addresses Zorslaus's question.

01:02:54.480 I guess I answered wrong then.

01:02:55.940 Cause I want to be perceived.

01:02:56.660 Don't worry about it.

01:02:57.220 Don't worry about it.

01:02:57.740 Beat in cheeks with the $10 soup chat cyber girl. 0.98

01:02:59.540 Why would you leave the cyber security world where it is extremely profitable, less demeaning

01:03:05.500 and very respectable for OF that is the complete opposite and shameful to your hubby prospects.

01:03:11.880 Very interesting question.

01:03:13.380 Okay.

01:03:13.700 I get this all the time.

01:03:14.920 So basically I was making a fraction of what I make at my cybersecurity job.

01:03:20.900 I was grinding there for three years.

01:03:24.040 Alex is a witness to this and constantly complaining about how I was working overtime.

01:03:29.000 And not really getting anywhere.

01:03:31.040 The company was all men except for me.

01:03:33.700 And it was a struggle.

01:03:35.640 And then I started doing content creation first, not lewd, just doing cosplays and stuff.

01:03:40.700 Did really well.

01:03:42.060 Made a Patreon.

01:03:43.280 Started making three times what I was making monthly at my cybersecurity job.

01:03:47.280 But I kept that job for six months until I had a solid savings that could get me through

01:03:52.060 a year without any job.

01:03:53.860 And then I switched to fully doing OF and then my income just took off.

01:03:59.480 I started making 10, sometimes 15 times more than what I was making there.

01:04:03.960 And yeah.

01:04:05.660 All right.

01:04:07.000 Dave on Jackson.

01:04:07.760 Thank you for the $20 soup chat.

01:04:08.940 Beating cheeks is not wrong.

01:04:11.080 Thank you, man.

01:04:11.680 Beating cheeks with a $50 soup chat.

01:04:13.320 Thank you, man.

01:04:13.820 I'll spend more money on this podcast than on any OF or first dates.

01:04:20.680 And I'm disease-free successful.

01:04:21.900 Oh, okay.

01:04:22.400 This was the TTS.

01:04:23.680 Hey, bean cheeks. 1.00

01:04:24.360 Thank you, man.

01:04:24.800 Really appreciate the support.

01:04:26.120 Yo, Frankie K.

01:04:26.820 Thank you for the $10 soup chat.

01:04:27.900 OF girls.

01:04:28.420 Are you concerned about how a man might feel about your current hustle?

01:04:30.780 Would you ever tell him?

01:04:32.040 And are you looking for anything serious right now?

01:04:35.080 Or are you going to wait until after you hit the wall?

01:04:38.940 Do you want to answer first?

01:04:39.980 Um, yeah, so I am always super open about what I do for work.

01:04:44.720 I'm not going to, like, hide that just because I know that it is a deal breaker for a lot

01:04:48.980 of people.

01:04:50.480 I have been, like, my five-year relationship, he knew what I did and it made him super uncomfortable.

01:04:56.820 And so I ended the relationship because it's just in the same way that I wouldn't tell someone,

01:05:02.620 like, if they have a travel job that they need to get rid of that because I don't like

01:05:06.200 them being gone.

01:05:06.980 Like, someone's not going to tell me and have me follow through with limiting my job

01:05:12.240 prospects.

01:05:13.340 So, like, I always disclose it.

01:05:16.740 It has been a problem before.

01:05:18.360 But I feel like if someone's going to judge me for my content creation, especially as a

01:05:22.780 lewd creator, like, that's silly and that's not someone I want to associate with.

01:05:27.900 I'm kind of the same way.

01:05:29.180 I immediately disclose that I'm a content creator.

01:05:31.700 And I've only had people show interest in helping shoot for me.

01:05:38.660 I think that it helps, honestly, if I'm being very, very honest, that I don't do full nudity

01:05:44.280 or any pornographic content.

01:05:46.160 I think that makes the men I date more comfortable with it.

01:05:49.280 And I think it also helps that I haven't dated a lot of people and that I am, in general,

01:05:54.700 just, like, riz-less.

01:05:56.540 So, like, they, I think, sense my awkwardness and realize that it's just a way to make money

01:06:03.960 for me and not really anything else.

01:06:06.580 Sweet.

01:06:07.400 By the way, Eric, just a reminder, 20 and up, guys.

01:06:10.360 Guys, we're going to, for all the Super Chats, 20 and up from here on out, just so we keep 1.00

01:06:15.020 the show flowing.

01:06:16.220 Thank you to everybody who Super Chatted, 20 and up from here on out.

01:06:20.460 Okay, so we have, let's see, Bernito Sandriguez with the $10 Super Chat.

01:06:26.460 I'm requesting for $10 that my man dresses a chatroom avatar, stops wearing sunglasses

01:06:30.800 inside the night.

01:06:32.080 You don't like the Top G's sunglasses, huh?

01:06:34.460 Okay, Bono.

01:06:35.100 Can we see, can we at least give them a little preview of the, uh, the baby blues, or?

01:06:41.060 Don't want to blind anybody.

01:06:42.400 Ooh.

01:06:43.500 I was, I was signed to the two of the three top model agencies in the world for a reason.

01:06:48.400 Oh, wow.

01:06:49.820 Lex.

01:06:50.340 Ford Models and Wilhelmina Models.

01:06:53.260 That's a good one, right?

01:06:54.220 I don't, I'm not familiar with the modeling word, but.

01:06:57.300 It helps.

01:06:58.100 Okay.

01:06:59.120 Yeah, we have, uh, Flan Live, thanks for the Canadian $10 man.

01:07:01.840 Brian always has the Huey Lewis and the News CD on deck.

01:07:04.200 You got it.

01:07:05.100 Yo, Zorsalas, thank you for the $10 Super Chat.

01:07:07.100 Chivalry is dead. 0.98

01:07:07.760 Women killed it. 1.00

01:07:08.420 Being a gentleman means we are unequal fellas. 0.58

01:07:10.720 Take them on a really cheap date until they earn your chivalry.

01:07:14.060 Why is it back to talk about, why is it bad to talk about the truth in California?

01:07:19.380 Yeah.

01:07:21.440 Flan Live with the Canadian 50. 0.94

01:07:23.220 Thank you, man.

01:07:23.640 Appreciate it.

01:07:24.060 If she doesn't help on the first date, she doesn't get a rezo at Dorsia.

01:07:28.380 All right.

01:07:29.200 There you go.

01:07:30.420 Speaking of facts.

01:07:32.340 Yo, we got DrB84 with the $20 Super Chat.

01:07:37.120 Most men complaining about getting women and most women, wait, hold on.

01:07:42.400 Most men complain about getting women and most women complain about keeping men around and 0.99

01:07:47.880 or getting commitment and LTR.

01:07:50.220 Definitely true, man.

01:07:50.960 Thank you for the, uh, I think this is the first time I've seen you in the chat, man.

01:07:54.040 Welcome, man.

01:07:54.580 Really appreciate the support.

01:07:55.420 Thank you for the $20 Super Chat.

01:07:57.420 Um, yeah, a hundred percent.

01:07:59.840 Actually, really quick on this.

01:08:00.940 Yeah, I think that's pretty common.

01:08:04.200 Um, most men struggle to get women and I think a lot of women struggle to keep men.

01:08:09.300 So, Davon Jackson with the $10 Super Chat.

01:08:11.740 She's basically asking if you would expect your potential girlfriend to cut off her roster 1.00

01:08:15.820 for you.

01:08:16.440 Yes, he literally just said he tends to talk to one girl at a time himself.

01:08:21.180 Thank you, man.

01:08:21.740 Appreciate the Super Chat.

01:08:23.180 Yo, big $50 Super Chat. 1.00

01:08:25.000 Why the F would you expect a man to be okay that you have a fuck, whatever, I'll just 1.00

01:08:28.720 say fuck buddy since you have been, you've been fucking them for a long time? 1.00

01:08:35.060 Word? 1.00

01:08:37.500 I don't know if, I think this is directed at you.

01:08:39.580 Do you want to respond?

01:08:40.440 No, no, no.

01:08:41.500 Well, this was, uh, this was, there, it's unknowing.

01:08:45.840 It's some, it's a piece of information that he wouldn't know.

01:08:49.100 I'm just saying unknowingly would he expect you to basically not be seeing anyone for

01:08:54.980 months before going on a first date with him, was my question.

01:09:02.280 Okay.

01:09:02.880 Okay.

01:09:03.900 All right.

01:09:05.100 That was response to.

01:09:06.440 Yo, Gus, thanks for the $10 Super Chat.

01:09:07.900 They say they don't want the player, but that's who the, they hook up with and with, and that's

01:09:12.700 most of their exes, then they make the nice guy deal with the baggage.

01:09:17.540 After being ran through, your past body count matters to man.

01:09:22.320 Word.

01:09:23.200 Yeah.

01:09:24.040 Um, word.

01:09:26.060 But that's who they hook up with and that's most of their exes. 0.99

01:09:31.440 Oh, they make the nice guy.

01:09:32.620 Yeah.

01:09:32.740 I mean, that's what happens.

01:09:33.720 Basically, uh, you know, you're spending your twenties hooking up with a bunch of dudes,

01:09:37.580 hot guys, whatever.

01:09:38.360 They're not going to commit to you. 0.92

01:09:39.640 Then you're going to make your husband has, you're going to make your husband miserable 1.00

01:09:44.500 because fucking trauma from 20, 10 years of getting ran through and then settled down 1.00

01:09:51.480 with a nice guy. 1.00

01:09:52.040 Then divorce him five years later, take half a shit and then he'll probably, uh, delete 1.00

01:09:56.200 himself. 1.00

01:09:56.660 Okay.

01:09:57.500 Flan life with the Canadian $10.

01:09:58.900 Thank you, man.

01:09:59.360 Got a P P T F O. 1.00

01:10:00.880 What's that? 0.98

01:10:02.040 Pack, pack the fuck up. 0.89

01:10:03.380 Uh, I have worked tomorrow. 0.88

01:10:04.640 Believe it or not.

01:10:05.300 Hope everyone has a good night.

01:10:06.500 Cheers from the six Canada.

01:10:09.500 Yo flan life.

01:10:10.540 Thank you, man.

01:10:10.940 Thank you for all the support.

01:10:11.760 Appreciate you, man.

01:10:12.980 Frankie K with the $10 Super Chat.

01:10:14.380 Women can't change their body count like men can't change their height or hairline. 1.00

01:10:18.700 Your actions have consequences.

01:10:20.840 Ladies, save your gift for men who deserve it. 1.00

01:10:24.320 We can smell high counts a mile away.

01:10:27.760 Thank you, Frankie K.

01:10:28.860 You can change your hairline now, so.

01:10:31.260 Well, yeah, but that, I mean, that requires surgery and.

01:10:35.920 Tristan Tate just got a hair transplant, funny enough.

01:10:38.600 All those guys.

01:10:39.300 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:10:39.700 They all got.

01:10:40.940 Yeah.

01:10:41.160 Um, but, uh.

01:10:43.500 Yeah, yeah, I mean, really quick on the body count thing to address this Super Chat.

01:10:48.680 Do you guys think, just quick yes or no, do you guys think body count should matter?

01:10:53.180 Or, actually, let me frame it like this.

01:10:55.160 Do you take issue, would you take issue with a guy caring about body count? 0.99

01:11:00.260 Uh, I would only care if his body count was really high and he was somehow upset about my meager shit. 0.97

01:11:08.800 But, like, if I had a high body count, um, I would take issue with him being upset if he also had a high body count. 0.98

01:11:16.760 However, if he was coming at me with a low, normal body count and I had a high body count, I could understand him not being as interested in me because he feels I have way more experience.

01:11:26.460 Yeah.

01:11:27.680 I think it's all about communication, too.

01:11:29.640 Right, see, you guys think that it's okay for guys to have a high body count?

01:11:32.500 It don't matter.

01:11:32.880 It don't matter.

01:11:33.520 Well, it's, it's a bit different.

01:11:35.480 Why?

01:11:36.340 Because for men to get a woman, it's a challenge. 0.97

01:11:39.180 For you to get a man, it's, who wants it? 1.00

01:11:43.000 Okay.

01:11:43.260 Maybe that's just a you problem.

01:11:44.560 Nope.

01:11:44.780 However.

01:11:45.560 No.

01:11:46.600 Wait, wait, wait.

01:11:47.680 I have a very good.

01:11:48.380 It's not a challenge for me, my dear.

01:11:49.720 I can promise you that.

01:11:50.200 I have a very good counter to that.

01:11:51.280 The men who have the highest body counts are the most valuable, high value men.

01:11:56.520 So they are more capable of getting women than other men.

01:12:00.760 And that makes them on the same playing field as the women. 1.00

01:12:05.560 I agree with that.

01:12:06.460 I agree with that.

01:12:07.300 Thank you.

01:12:09.080 Here's, here's, let me just, okay.

01:12:10.940 So it kind of comes down to this supposed, supposed alleged double standard.

01:12:15.940 Here's the difference, though.

01:12:17.640 Most women can sleep with most men.

01:12:20.080 Most men cannot sleep with most women. 0.99

01:12:23.620 An average woman has the equivalent, let's say, negotiating power or the equivalent pull as a famous male. 1.00

01:12:34.820 As a male, to have the same pull with women that women have, that an average woman has with men, you must be famous.

01:12:44.140 That's the power.

01:12:45.280 You disagree.

01:12:46.040 You could sleep with a new guy every single, every single day of the week if you were so inclined.

01:12:51.980 For the rest of your life.

01:12:52.880 Although I wouldn't say you're average looking, but I mean, an average woman, even a woman less attractive than you, could sleep with a new guy every single day of the week. 1.00

01:13:04.140 In order to pull that off as a guy, you have to.

01:13:06.480 People can make those choices, but I wouldn't say most people are, men or women.

01:13:10.600 But whether they're acting on it or not, Eric, by the way, can you open the door, please?

01:13:15.780 Whether they're acting on it or not, it doesn't matter.

01:13:18.420 The potentiality is still there.

01:13:21.160 Is that a real word?

01:13:23.520 Potentiality?

01:13:24.420 Let me look it up.

01:13:25.420 Tell you what, if it is a real word, you have to, I don't know, if it is a real word, you have to do a fit check.

01:13:34.580 The whole, ah, it's a real word.

01:13:36.620 Okay, fit check.

01:13:37.420 Potentiality?

01:13:38.240 Am I actually going to do a fit check?

01:13:39.360 We're actually doing a fit check.

01:13:40.920 Wow.

01:13:41.720 Here's the fit, y'all.

01:13:42.800 Wait.

01:13:43.640 We didn't see it.

01:13:46.360 Ooh! 0.96

01:13:47.760 Wait, a little spin?

01:13:49.780 A whole spin.

01:13:50.400 A whole spin.

01:13:50.940 We've got to see a little spin.

01:13:51.660 Ooh, I can't do a full spin.

01:13:53.240 Oh, just scoot the chair back, that's fine.

01:13:57.520 Fit check.

01:13:58.520 Woo! 0.99

01:13:59.640 Okay.

01:14:00.920 The potentiality of that fit check was...

01:14:03.160 The potentiality of the fit check has been fantastic.

01:14:07.000 Fantastical.

01:14:07.900 Okay, anyways.

01:14:09.240 I don't know where I was on there, but...

01:14:11.000 What I want to know is why a man is going to be so concerned about a body count or decisions that a woman made prior to knowing him.

01:14:18.520 Because there's so many factors that could go into that.

01:14:21.320 There could be childhood trauma, sexual trauma, so on and so on, that triggers promiscuity.

01:14:26.540 It doesn't undo.

01:14:27.940 Okay.

01:14:28.940 I'm not saying it needs to undo, but why should that matter to decisions that you made prior to knowing somebody?

01:14:34.500 Okay.

01:14:35.100 If you rob a liquor store at gunpoint, if you did it because you had childhood trauma, it doesn't undo the fact that you have just committed a felony and you're about to spend a lot of time in prison.

01:14:47.920 Mm-hmm.

01:14:49.060 Okay, well, that's...

01:14:49.640 So, just because the reasons, it doesn't undo. 0.99

01:14:53.140 Right, but if you serve your time, you do your therapy, you get free of shit. 0.98

01:14:57.640 You're taking the example there. 0.96

01:14:59.340 No, yeah, because your example is a bit stretched because we're talking about decisions made in the past.

01:15:04.460 So, say you meet a woman that served time for whatever crime that she did. 0.99

01:15:11.020 She served the time, she's out, she's working, I don't know, a phenomenal job, she makes great money, she has a whole life ahead of her.

01:15:18.640 Something that happened potentially when she was 18 or 19 does not reflect her success as a 20, 30-year-old woman.

01:15:25.440 Well, let's just use this example, your future jobs are going to see that and they're going to take that into consideration if they want to hire you.

01:15:31.940 Not always, depends on the industry.

01:15:34.500 Am I wrong?

01:15:35.080 I do have friends that have done time that are currently working six-figure jobs and up with criminal records.

01:15:40.660 Well, they're still taking it into consideration.

01:15:42.560 Yeah, but...

01:15:43.120 But clearly not enough if they're hiring them.

01:15:44.380 What I would, I mean, well, there's plenty of scenarios where, in this situation, where having a criminal record is going to, can have some negative ramifications.

01:15:55.480 The comparison I would make is, can you still be successful if you have an extensive criminal record and make a lot of money?

01:16:02.780 Yes.

01:16:03.440 Is it probably going to bar you for life from certain type of jobs?

01:16:08.820 Yes.

01:16:09.300 And correspondingly, if we kind of make the connection here, being promiscuous in your past may very well prevent you from a high-value guy taking you seriously for a long-term commitment and wifing you.

01:16:26.160 If you had a promiscuous past, a lot of men are going to look at that and say, I'm not going to take the risk.

01:16:32.780 And let me ask you this question.

01:16:34.260 What risk is that? 1.00

01:16:35.780 Losing half of your shit in 20 years. 1.00

01:16:37.940 So you're correlating past promiscuity with gold digging? 1.00

01:16:43.060 No, no, no.

01:16:43.340 No, no, no, no. 1.00

01:16:44.060 That's not what taking half of your shit is. 0.99

01:16:45.140 They've actually done, there's been multiple studies on this. 0.99

01:16:48.580 The more premarital sexual partners that you've had, the higher likelihood of divorce, the higher likelihood of infidelity, and the greater likelihood of reporting relationship and marriage dissatisfaction.

01:17:01.220 From just the woman's side or from a man's side too?

01:17:03.920 From both, but it's more pronounced in women. 1.00

01:17:07.940 So for both men and women, the more premarital sexual partners you've had, it's a greater indicator for divorce, but it's more pronounced in women.

01:17:17.100 I think it was something like past three bodies, it drops.

01:17:20.980 The chance of divorce goes up by 15% or more.

01:17:24.280 Wasn't it five?

01:17:25.780 I remember five.

01:17:26.140 It's either three or five.

01:17:26.760 I think it's after six, that's when it's like a pretty major thing.

01:17:31.480 But okay, let's talk about, you know, how you can change.

01:17:33.760 Six in your whole life?

01:17:34.320 Let me ask you a question though.

01:17:35.280 You say you can change, right?

01:17:36.820 Your body count, that's your past.

01:17:38.400 Let's say you found out you're interested in starting to date a guy.

01:17:42.400 You somehow find out, maybe he admits it, maybe you hear through the grapevine, that every single ex he had, he cheated on them.

01:17:50.560 It's his past.

01:17:51.680 It's a pattern.

01:17:52.560 But are you going to take pause?

01:17:55.400 I don't know, if I heard about a girl and she cheated on every single one of her exes, she might not do it with me. 1.00

01:18:03.760 She might not, but I'm not going to take that risk.

01:18:06.700 Okay, this is where I can understand what you're saying and that's a great point.

01:18:10.480 However, I would like to also say, so for example, the difference in making decisions like that when you're in a relationship as opposed to when you're single,

01:18:21.660 I think that that is also something to factor in.

01:18:24.360 When you are single, you have the freedom to hook up with or date around or sleep with whoever you want.

01:18:31.360 Maybe you have a really crappy dating history and you, I know a girl that falls very fast for guys and she sleeps with them fairly quickly and most of them don't work out,

01:18:42.840 but her body count went up fairly quickly.

01:18:45.400 What is it?

01:18:46.220 What's her body count? 0.98

01:18:47.540 Her body, I don't know her exact number anymore, but when her and I were friends, at that point, it was,

01:18:54.360 I want to say, in the 70s?

01:18:58.640 It's me right now.

01:19:02.480 Yo, send the asteroid.

01:19:04.200 70? 1.00

01:19:05.400 God damn. 1.00

01:19:06.780 Holy shit. 1.00

01:19:07.480 Okay. 0.99

01:19:08.180 But she also, you know, she, prior to her having a large body count, she was in a long-term relationship 0.99

01:19:17.220 and she was engaged and she ended the engagement because she realized that's not somebody she wanted to be with for the rest of her life.

01:19:23.040 That was prior to her ever having a large body count. 1.00

01:19:25.480 That was, I think, her first five in her body count from what she told me.

01:19:29.880 So, she went from being engaged with five bodies to 70 plus? 0.71

01:19:37.080 Yes.

01:19:39.440 And how has her struggle for finding a new potential husband been going?

01:19:44.460 She's now in a committed relationship over the past few years.

01:19:47.680 But, see, that's the thing is the exception doesn't make the rule.

01:19:51.180 We need to keep that in mind.

01:19:53.100 Okay, but.

01:19:53.400 Just because she got lucky and found somebody that she's happy with.

01:19:55.280 She's not lucky.

01:19:56.420 I honestly, I hate when.

01:19:58.220 I'd say dating is pretty lucky at this point.

01:19:59.840 I mean, maybe to you, but it's a case-by-case basis, in my opinion.

01:20:04.440 We can't.

01:20:05.180 This is the problem with dating and stereotypes and statistics is we're going off of, well, 70% of men this and 30% of women that.

01:20:13.180 We can't do that when going into.

01:20:15.100 It's like the same thing if it's like you're taking your past hurt and trauma into every new date and relationships.

01:20:19.800 You're never going to find somebody successfully if you're bringing this past hurt with you.

01:20:25.660 Well, let me just say one thing in defense of Cade here.

01:20:28.620 There's no luck involved in Cade's romantic pursuits.

01:20:32.000 Cade is a, he's a sniper.

01:20:34.820 He sees, he gets.

01:20:36.700 But, okay, so.

01:20:39.140 Always on a mission.

01:20:40.080 It's a mission.

01:20:41.520 I know I was going around the table on one question.

01:20:44.440 I don't know if it was like the who pays or I think we'd moved on to something else.

01:20:49.120 Something about being, do you want to be promiscuous?

01:20:51.640 I think we.

01:20:52.320 I feel like we got that one.

01:20:52.880 We already finished that one.

01:20:53.620 Okay, let's do the Super Chats.

01:20:54.980 Okay, we have, let's see.

01:20:58.940 Or did we do, did we do this one from Davon?

01:21:01.280 Yes.

01:21:02.100 Wait.

01:21:02.260 Oh, wait.

01:21:02.660 No.

01:21:03.160 Yo, Davon Jackson, thank you for the 20 less Super Chat.

01:21:04.960 These girls trying to defend being a 304 so bad has me. 1.00

01:21:07.640 I'm out for the night.

01:21:08.680 That girl, Jade, from the other show being newly celibate in therapy is why guys avoid girls with a promiscuous past. 0.93

01:21:14.860 The trauma is unavoidable.

01:21:17.700 Hey, Davon, thank you for tuning in.

01:21:18.960 Have a good night, man.

01:21:19.680 Appreciate you.

01:21:20.920 And yeah, that was kind of crazy.

01:21:26.160 Her trajectory there from 26 to virgin to major trauma, 30 body count or something, 20, 30.

01:21:33.280 I don't know what it was.

01:21:34.060 But lies and politics, $10 soup chat.

01:21:38.140 Does Andrew Tate being convicted as a, Jesus Christ, everything he's ever said?

01:21:44.800 Or will there be more grifters to follow?

01:21:48.020 First off, he hasn't been convicted.

01:21:49.960 He's been detained slash arrested.

01:21:52.720 I don't know if it's detained or arrested.

01:21:54.260 I don't know the terminology in Romania.

01:21:55.960 But there's been some disputing reports.

01:22:00.220 Two of the victims have come forward and said, we were in a business relationship with him.

01:22:06.180 We were engaged.

01:22:07.080 We were not romantically engaged, but we were engaged in business with him, doing OnlyFans.

01:22:12.340 He was our manager.

01:22:13.300 This is, we didn't even want to be victim.

01:22:15.200 And the funny thing about that is, two of the women that they're wanting to use on the Romanian television have actually came forth and said, we are not victims.

01:22:23.780 That's who I'm talking about, yeah.

01:22:25.040 Those ones.

01:22:25.560 Yeah.

01:22:25.960 And so, look, who knows?

01:22:28.380 If he's found guilty, then he's guilty.

01:22:33.680 We're all innocent until proven guilty.

01:22:35.660 Innocent until proven guilty.

01:22:37.360 Yo, Jay, thank you for the $10 soup chat.

01:22:39.160 Brian, they're lying about reality.

01:22:40.500 If you ask your friends, let's go to X, thank you, man, are you expected to pay for them?

01:22:45.400 No.

01:22:45.960 No one does this in 99% of cases.

01:22:48.220 Saying let's go out doesn't mean you're expected to pay.

01:22:51.000 Yeah, this is actually a really good point because you think about it like with your friends.

01:22:54.420 Like, let's say one of your girlfriends was like, hey, listen, would you like to go? 0.99

01:22:57.920 Oh, shit. 0.98

01:22:58.720 A couple of, let's say one of your girlfriends says, hey, would you like to go on a trip with me to Hawaii? 1.00

01:23:05.300 If she asks you that, are you expecting her to pay for your flight and pay for everything?

01:23:09.680 That's not a romantic pursuit.

01:23:11.260 Yeah, I feel like if I do did that, I wouldn't expect him to pay for my flight and everything either.

01:23:15.040 Fair enough.

01:23:15.740 Yeah, but also dates and friendship dates are not a romantic pursuit.

01:23:22.360 Okay.

01:23:25.220 But, I mean, oh, birth control alarm.

01:23:32.340 My work alarm.

01:23:35.420 Okay, let me get these other soup chats here.

01:23:38.180 Getting a lot.

01:23:40.440 Yeah, yo.

01:23:41.880 Lies and politics, thank you for the $20 soup chat. 0.87

01:23:44.520 Sex should only happen for the purposes of procreation within the context of marriage. 0.99

01:23:48.680 Return to the one true holy apostolic church and repent of your wicked ways before it's too late.

01:23:54.360 I think he's trolling a little bit.

01:23:55.960 He's bringing up my Catholic school trauma right now.

01:23:59.180 See, here's the thing about that, and I have a friend, a very good friend who's 27 and a virgin, and she's very attractive.

01:24:11.580 She'll be waiting until she's married. 1.00

01:24:13.400 But the thing is, I just, I, I, I, I, she's very admirable, and I respect her a lot, but I don't think it's wise to buy a car without test driving it.

01:24:23.620 You might have zero sexual chemistry with somebody.

01:24:27.480 You could be, you have amazing personal chemistry.

01:24:31.940 And Martin super chatted $50.

01:24:34.340 We are in trouble as a society.

01:24:36.360 It's working.

01:24:36.860 Marriage rates, birth rates, lower than ever in history.

01:24:40.840 Divorce, antidepressants slash anxiety meds higher than ever before in history.

01:24:46.100 Most unhappy demo of human, single.

01:24:48.500 Thank you.

01:24:50.460 I got cut off.

01:24:51.820 Yeah, I don't, TTS is weird.

01:24:53.060 I'll pull it back up.

01:24:53.980 Thank you, man.

01:24:54.360 Appreciate it.

01:24:57.160 Someone was, okay, let me pull this back up.

01:25:00.440 So, hold on, Eric.

01:25:02.260 Yeah, we have lies in politics.

01:25:05.020 So, I mean, I disagree.

01:25:06.820 Sex can be for fun, bonding, recreation-like, but I do think people should try to err less so on having sex casually

01:25:16.840 and try to not rack up a high body count and try to keep your body count low.

01:25:23.920 And actually, if you're going to have sex with someone, want to pursue a relationship with them.

01:25:31.300 So, yeah.

01:25:33.460 Yo, we got volleyball. 0.99

01:25:34.500 Tastes good.

01:25:35.020 Thank you for the $25 soup chat.

01:25:36.500 Thank you, man.

01:25:36.860 Appreciate it.

01:25:37.320 What does it take for a 5'5 guy to be attractive?

01:25:40.240 Act like you're 6'3".

01:25:41.720 Yeah, humor.

01:25:42.640 Confidence is key.

01:25:43.540 Act the same way.

01:25:45.480 Confidence is key.

01:25:46.260 That's it.

01:25:47.080 Just be 5'5 and confident.

01:25:49.040 Really quick on this.

01:25:50.180 We'll go around the table really quick, guys.

01:25:51.980 So, what's your height and do you have a height requirement?

01:25:56.700 What's your bare minimum for a guy's height?

01:25:59.520 I'm 5'6 and I've dated somebody who is an inch and a half shorter than me and it wasn't really a problem.

01:26:06.220 I still thought I was super hot.

01:26:08.700 I'm 5'2.

01:26:09.800 I've dated someone who's 5'8 and that's probably the requirement, bare minimum. 0.99

01:26:15.100 5'8 bare minimum?

01:26:16.220 Okay.

01:26:16.760 What about you?

01:26:17.400 I'm 5'7 and I honestly don't care about height as long as they don't make it their entire personality that they're either like really tall or really short because that's like the weird confidence thing where it's like that's just a weird issue that they have and it's not going to go away.

01:26:31.100 That's so true.

01:26:31.740 So, I'm 4'11 and I will say like 5'7 and a half to 5'8.

01:26:37.940 Wait, hold on.

01:26:39.260 You're 4'11?

01:26:40.940 Yeah.

01:26:41.220 I will give myself maybe like worth 11 and a half, you know.

01:26:50.400 I wear a lot of platform, so I'll give them that.

01:26:55.000 Okay.

01:26:56.120 What about you?

01:26:57.160 I'm 5'8 and I have dated someone that's 5'10.

01:26:59.800 So, that's your bare minimum, 5'10?

01:27:03.560 Yeah, 5'10.

01:27:04.960 Bring the music back.

01:27:06.220 I am 4'11 and a half.

01:27:08.520 Yes.

01:27:11.280 I'm waiting for my cue.

01:27:12.220 Where's the music?

01:27:12.720 Hold on.

01:27:13.300 I got you.

01:27:13.820 I got something for you.

01:27:14.760 Hold on.

01:27:21.080 I'm sorry.

01:27:21.840 That half.

01:27:23.000 Why did that sound like pig squealing? 0.96

01:27:24.840 It did sound like pig squealing. 0.58

01:27:30.060 You've never heard that before.

01:27:31.040 Where did you get a clip of my laugh?

01:27:32.880 You've never heard that before? 0.87

01:27:34.240 That literally sounds like a pig squeal.

01:27:36.620 But, yeah. 0.93

01:27:37.720 That works.

01:27:39.320 Well, the half counts.

01:27:40.420 Yes, the shortest I've ever dated was 5'7, but I'd probably say anywhere between 5'7 and 5'8 would be the shortest.

01:27:49.220 Okay.

01:27:49.720 Cade, what about you?

01:27:50.660 See, I actually like the taller women because if I'm going to date you seriously and take you into consideration long term, I'm thinking about my children in the future. 0.99

01:27:59.480 I'm trying to breed D1 model athletes.

01:28:02.700 So, 5'7 is minimum.

01:28:05.980 So, between 5'7, 5'10, 5'11, I've had X's that are 6'2.

01:28:11.640 So, as long as they're shorter than me, I mean, you don't have to be, but I prefer it.

01:28:16.460 Word.

01:28:17.240 Yeah, honestly, if her height doesn't start with 4, she ain't the one. 0.98

01:28:20.900 Oh, you like the shorties?

01:28:21.780 I like the shorties.

01:28:23.320 That's a good one.

01:28:23.700 If her height doesn't. 0.69

01:28:24.440 What's that?

01:28:25.700 No, I've heard.

01:28:26.560 Yeah.

01:28:27.360 Okay.

01:28:29.220 Yeah, we got, I mean, I don't really care, honestly.

01:28:34.120 But do I have a slight preference for, like, short girls? 0.99

01:28:36.740 Yes, I do.

01:28:38.000 So, it's okay to have a preference.

01:28:39.520 That's what you're saying.

01:28:40.380 It's okay for you to have a preference.

01:28:41.780 It's okay for us to have a preference.

01:28:43.200 It's chill.

01:28:43.580 Yeah.

01:28:44.100 Yeah.

01:28:44.600 I think it's fine.

01:28:45.300 As long as it's not the whole personality.

01:28:46.860 I think it's fine.

01:28:47.560 I mean, here's the thing, though.

01:28:49.180 I'll date a girl who's taller than me.

01:28:50.500 So, it's not like, for some women, it's like, must be this tall, or definitely won't date

01:28:55.320 a guy shorter than me.

01:28:56.760 She can be legally a midget. 1.00

01:28:59.660 She can be a WNBA player. 0.99

01:29:02.180 I do not care.

01:29:04.540 Okay.

01:29:06.600 Yo, we have Oni Nofro.

01:29:09.200 Thank you for the Canadian $20 super chat.

01:29:11.120 Why body count matters.

01:29:14.140 Okay.

01:29:14.780 Simple.

01:29:15.100 We have stats.

01:29:15.880 Research has shown.

01:29:17.200 Hold on.

01:29:17.880 Let me pull something up real quick.

01:29:19.260 Research has shown impaired pair bonding potentiality 1 equals 50%, 2 equals 0.25%, 3 equals 12.5%,

01:29:28.860 et cetera, et cetera.

01:29:31.840 This predisposes failure of relationships.

01:29:34.580 History shapes the future.

01:29:35.900 Stop making excuses.

01:29:37.500 Yeah.

01:29:37.680 I mean, the other thing, too, is just if your body counts high, you've had a lot of previous

01:29:41.740 partner.

01:29:42.280 You've kind of detached sex from intimacy, and you're going to have a much harder time pair

01:29:48.640 bonding with someone.

01:29:49.340 If you've had 50 prior partners, your pair bonding ability is frazzled.

01:29:56.380 So interesting, because Japan's having the exact opposite problem. 0.96

01:30:00.360 People aren't fucking there, and nobody's getting married there or having kids either. 0.88

01:30:05.120 So it's really kind of an interesting dichotomy. 0.97

01:30:09.220 Well, I'm not particularly well read on the happenings in the Japanese dating marketplace.

01:30:18.280 But basically, they're having a lot of problems with people not getting married, having kids.

01:30:22.460 Their society isn't really moving forward.

01:30:24.220 They're trying to have more children and stuff because of that.

01:30:27.260 They'd love you there.

01:30:27.960 You should move to Japan. 1.00

01:30:29.500 You just want me to leave.

01:30:31.020 No. 1.00

01:30:32.080 Oh, shit. 1.00

01:30:49.540 Vacuous chasm. 1.00

01:30:50.960 Goddamn, Zantians. 1.00

01:30:52.100 I mean, if you didn't hate me, I'd say that you have some nice literary speech in there. 0.99

01:31:00.380 But I think that I was joking a little bit when I said Catholic trauma. 0.76

01:31:05.140 I didn't have a bad experience at Catholic school, but I grew up very modest, and it did

01:31:11.200 kind of push me in the direction of wanting to explore my sexuality when I grew up.

01:31:15.240 So now that I have an OF, I don't feel that I've lost my dignity or respect or future prospects.

01:31:23.480 If anything, I feel I have a lot more opportunities lined up because of it and, you know, like a

01:31:29.320 house and stuff that I would never be able to get without it.

01:31:34.420 Okay.

01:31:36.040 Cool.

01:31:36.600 All right.

01:31:36.840 Let me get these other soup chats.

01:31:38.360 Guys, thank you so much for all the soup chats.

01:31:39.780 Really appreciate it.

01:31:40.680 I'm going to try to get to all of them right now.

01:31:44.040 Let's see.

01:31:44.700 Okay.

01:31:45.240 Yo, beaten cheeks. 0.84

01:31:46.440 Thank you for the $20 soup chat.

01:31:47.620 Men have to earn slash work for their value. 0.99

01:31:50.380 Women are born with their value. 0.99

01:31:52.080 Easy to maintain by being healthy, virgin slash low body count, and you'll get a good average

01:31:57.660 man or top 20% easily.

01:32:00.940 Actually, this does kind of bring us back to the conversation we're having about the double 0.89

01:32:05.100 standards.

01:32:05.620 I don't know if we really wrapped that up in that you were, you were complaining or not

01:32:09.860 complaining.

01:32:10.220 You were saying how, oh, you were saying how if a guy has a high body count, he shouldn't

01:32:18.260 judge a woman for having a high body count. 1.00

01:32:20.900 And we were sort of talking about, well, there is a bit of a difference between men and women

01:32:24.200 as to the double standard.

01:32:26.960 And I think that's commonly, you know, it goes, the way it's usually viewed is women are viewed 0.98

01:32:35.780 as sluts and men are viewed as studs. 1.00

01:32:37.840 That's typically how it's viewed. 1.00

01:32:40.220 Girls are shamed for it. 1.00

01:32:41.600 Right.

01:32:41.980 And men are kind of like, congrats, you're a champ, you're a legend, whatever.

01:32:46.720 And also, since the beginning of civilization, women have been frowned upon for being promiscuous. 1.00

01:32:54.580 I mean, even in biblical times, I think they get stoned.

01:32:58.120 And so, since the dawn of history being recorded, women were supposed to have one partner. 0.57

01:33:07.280 I would add men, too.

01:33:10.640 Well, the kings back then had way more than one.

01:33:13.600 But I'm talking, okay, like in Western society.

01:33:17.800 Western because of Christianity. 0.98

01:33:20.340 So male...

01:33:21.180 That's a new concept, if you think about it.

01:33:23.020 Well, 2,000 years. 0.99

01:33:24.200 Oh, are you looking back like caveman days and shit? 0.98

01:33:26.600 No, only the couple past couple hundred years have we really decided a monogamy is the way to go. 0.98

01:33:33.300 Well, I'm not...

01:33:34.900 I mean, Christianity's been around for over 2,000 years.

01:33:37.500 So both male and female chastity was valued.

01:33:42.300 But as a man...

01:33:43.460 Up until 50 years, 50, 60, 70 years ago.

01:33:45.760 But still, regardless of monogamy or polygamy, the man who could get the women was still respected.

01:33:55.340 He wasn't shunned.

01:33:56.260 Okay, so you're talking like kings and sultans.

01:33:59.040 They had harems. 0.52

01:34:00.800 Yeah, but the kings, every king had handmaidens.

01:34:04.780 And let's...

01:34:06.000 Bill Clinton.

01:34:07.540 Huh?

01:34:08.000 Let's talk about Bill Clinton.

01:34:09.000 Wait, what?

01:34:09.640 It's over...

01:34:10.320 Whoa.

01:34:12.280 Monica Lewinsky. 1.00

01:34:13.220 It's a train of thought.

01:34:14.160 Huh? 1.00

01:34:14.600 Some Monica Lewinsky shit. 1.00

01:34:16.800 Oh, word? 1.00

01:34:17.600 Okay.

01:34:19.740 Yeah.

01:34:20.880 Okay.

01:34:21.360 Hillary stayed with him.

01:34:22.240 Let me...

01:34:22.840 That is true.

01:34:23.660 Let me get these other soup chats.

01:34:25.540 So, yo, Shane M, thank you for the $20 soup chat.

01:34:27.120 The fact is all men want girls that not just any men can have, but average men have enough 0.54

01:34:31.940 trouble finding women and can't force that preference.

01:34:35.680 High-value men can because 50% of all of women are all going out for the top 20% of all men. 0.99

01:34:43.320 I love these stats we're all just pulling out of our mouths.

01:34:45.940 And the funny thing is, 20% of all men, is it 20% of men have 80% of the women or 100% of the women?

01:34:51.920 I think it's something along the lines of, and obviously these probably are not exact numbers,

01:34:56.380 but 80% of women are chasing after the top 10, top 20% of men.

01:35:01.100 And actually, you know what?

01:35:02.300 We do have a video on this, and we have some stats that we can pull up too.

01:35:06.920 But, Eric, why don't you pull up a video that's semi-related to this, that can kind of articulate what's going on.

01:35:19.040 Go to the videos tab.

01:35:20.540 It's the JP.

01:35:22.260 It should be the first one.

01:35:23.340 Yeah, go for it.

01:35:23.640 Well, it seems a lot of the women's liberation movement of late, the sexual liberation that you spoke about,

01:35:30.820 it seems to advantage men far more than women.

01:35:33.980 Well, no, no, it doesn't.

01:35:35.240 Well, because they get the six without the responsibility.

01:35:37.820 Yeah, yeah, yeah, but it doesn't disadvantage men.

01:35:40.780 It disadvantages a very small proportion of hyper-successful and increasingly predatory men.

01:35:46.400 Holiday gaming super chatted $50.

01:35:48.280 Because it disadvantages most...

01:35:49.440 Why is it that when a man talks about girl in not-so-good light, they think we hate them?

01:35:54.100 I'm sure that I can speak for most guys when I say you can do it, but we will judge.

01:35:58.720 Aw, so you don't hate me?

01:36:00.520 Did he say beat them? 0.89

01:36:02.500 Hate, hate, hate.

01:36:03.680 Keep playing it.

01:36:05.000 Sorry, guys.

01:36:05.840 We had a TTS come in during the video.

01:36:07.500 Because what happens is that when the sexual constraints are lifted off women, 1.00

01:36:11.980 they all migrate to a very small percentage of men, 5% maybe,

01:36:16.760 and then those men have an almost unlimited field of sexual access.

01:36:20.380 And so you could say that's a benefit to them, but it's not, because it trains them to be manipulative,

01:36:26.560 Machiavellian, instrumental psychopaths, because all they're doing is pursuing a string of pleasure-based,

01:36:33.360 hedonistic, short-term relationships.

01:36:34.960 That's bad training if you want to be a reciprocal human being and if you want to learn how to participate in a real relationship.

01:36:41.560 So, and then it's a catastrophe for the women because none of those men are incentivized to form anything that approximates a long-term relationship.

01:36:50.460 And then the rest of the men are left with nothing.

01:36:54.840 Yeah, so that's...

01:36:55.940 That's disastrous.

01:36:56.820 It's disastrous.

01:36:57.340 Disastrous.

01:36:57.900 Yeah, it's a disastrous piece.

01:36:59.320 Any reaction to that, anybody?

01:37:04.300 Gotta love Jordan Peterson.

01:37:06.760 Yeah, so basically what's kind of happening now, you've...

01:37:10.900 What was the term he used?

01:37:12.360 It was something deregulated the sexual marketplace. 0.79

01:37:18.680 So when that happens, basically...

01:37:21.840 And we have the data to back this up from dating apps.

01:37:25.060 How do most people meet nowadays?

01:37:27.140 Online.

01:37:27.620 They meet on dating apps.

01:37:29.420 Women swipe no on like 90% of guys. 1.00

01:37:33.420 They're all swiping on the same guys.

01:37:35.640 So those...

01:37:36.540 All those guys at the top, they're gonna get all the girls. 1.00

01:37:39.700 There's no incentive for them to commit.

01:37:41.580 So they're gonna keep you around for sex, but they'll never commit to you.

01:37:45.460 Men will sleep down. 0.98

01:37:48.000 So we'll sleep with a girl who's less attractive than us because sex. 1.00

01:37:53.620 Why not? 0.99

01:37:54.040 And then...

01:37:54.680 But those guys won't commit.

01:37:56.280 So women are chasing after these really attractive guys and it's... 0.93

01:38:02.040 So it's...

01:38:02.760 He says it's bad for those guys and I don't know where I stand on that, but it's bad for most women and it's bad for most men ultimately.

01:38:11.880 Because...

01:38:12.880 And we see it playing out.

01:38:14.560 People aren't getting into relationships and we see a rise in male...

01:38:19.560 Eric, can you pull up that thing from the Washington Post, the study they did with the who's reported sexlessness in the past?

01:38:28.680 You know what's crazy?

01:38:31.760 They say that by 20, 30, 50% of women will be single.

01:38:36.680 I can see that.

01:38:38.180 We're all dating each other now.

01:38:40.520 On the low.

01:38:42.620 Yeah, because we're all over the men population. 0.73

01:38:44.640 That's why we're single.

01:38:46.080 Wait, what?

01:38:46.680 I said because we're all over the male population.

01:38:49.020 What's left?

01:38:49.880 Well, you're over the 10 or 20% of men that are treating you poorly.

01:38:57.060 Which is most of the population?

01:38:59.700 20% is not most of the population.

01:39:02.560 No, I'm saying the way that they act.

01:39:04.880 And we're over the way that they act, a good majority of them.

01:39:07.420 It's gotten really old, the same game.

01:39:09.360 Okay, but have you ever said that the guy's too nice?

01:39:12.460 Have I ever said that somebody's too nice?

01:39:14.720 I don't know if I've said they're too nice.

01:39:16.220 See, as the guy that used to be too nice, you can't be too nice.

01:39:23.320 They don't want it.

01:39:25.560 I've given nice guys a chance. 1.00

01:39:27.040 Okay, but then why is there a trope of women being attracted to bad boys and jerks and assholes? 1.00

01:39:35.000 You got women. 1.00

01:39:36.040 I think it's more. 0.99

01:39:36.560 Women are the gatekeepers of sex. 1.00

01:39:39.640 You choose who you sleep with. 1.00

01:39:41.880 If you're consistently sleeping with shitty men, you have nobody to blame but yourself. 0.98

01:39:48.960 You disregard the guys that would be loyal, good partners. 0.98

01:39:53.560 But they don't excite you.

01:39:54.960 How often do you hear a girl say, I didn't feel the connection.

01:39:57.960 I didn't feel the vibe.

01:39:59.180 I didn't feel the chemistry.

01:40:00.380 There wasn't a click. 1.00

01:40:01.220 You're looking for some sort of excitement that only guys who are either assholes, jerks, or bad boys are going to be able to elicit. 1.00

01:40:10.280 Again, I think that's subjective. 1.00

01:40:12.540 Personally speaking, I have given nice guys a chance, and I have definitely felt a connection with douchebags.

01:40:19.680 I've felt a connection with guys that were awesome.

01:40:22.400 But I think that there should be a form of excitement no matter who they are, whether they're nice or they're not.

01:40:30.860 There should be something to look forward to.

01:40:32.980 Do you think a good relationship, a long-lasting relationship, the foundation of that has anything to do with how excited someone makes you?

01:40:42.980 I don't know if excited is the word.

01:40:45.280 Well, women live their life based on they crave drama. 1.00

01:40:47.920 You have to bring drama to the woman's life in some shape, way, or form. 1.00

01:40:53.560 No, women crave drama. 1.00

01:40:56.000 What do they do when they get together with their friends?

01:40:59.080 They talk about other girls. 0.83

01:41:00.500 They talk about problems.

01:41:01.680 Everybody's very biologically different.

01:41:01.980 Not my friends and I.

01:41:03.500 I think it's important to be with somebody that you can learn from and that you can also teach and is willing to learn from you as well

01:41:11.360 and more about intellectuality as opposed to being too nice or being too mean.

01:41:17.920 And I don't think excitement would be the word.

01:41:20.180 You're like turned on by smartness.

01:41:22.140 Yeah.

01:41:22.820 Intellect.

01:41:23.220 Yeah, absolutely.

01:41:24.220 Intellect and I don't know, like somebody that's actually goal-driven and going towards something.

01:41:30.120 Yeah, me too.

01:41:30.740 Yeah.

01:41:31.320 I mean, I kind of disagree with the whole, are you talking about ambition, ambitious men?

01:41:36.420 Yeah.

01:41:36.700 Honestly, I don't think women really care all that much about ambition.

01:41:41.140 But we're telling you we do.

01:41:42.760 I think it depends on the girl.

01:41:43.900 If we're ambitious, I want an ambitious guy.

01:41:45.660 Let me just, let me qualify my statement.

01:41:48.800 Women are attracted to ambitious men who have reaped the rewards of said ambition.

01:41:54.760 Not true.

01:41:55.080 That's true.

01:41:55.840 Not true at all.

01:41:56.920 I am the most ambitious man in Santa Barbara.

01:42:00.040 Okay, maybe.

01:42:00.420 That's not true at all either.

01:42:01.540 Women aren't, I'm pretty damn ambitious. 1.00

01:42:06.460 Yes, sure.

01:42:07.840 Women aren't busting down the door to date me because of my ambition. 1.00

01:42:13.460 They don't, it's not like.

01:42:14.480 When someone's goal-oriented, that's a huge turn on.

01:42:17.940 Do you state that in your day?

01:42:19.940 Do you express that you are ambitious?

01:42:23.500 No, that's weird to say, by the way, I'm so ambitious.

01:42:25.820 Then a girl just isn't going to know, you know what I mean? 0.99

01:42:27.860 But also, they're going to know.

01:42:29.500 Look around you.

01:42:30.280 They can see.

01:42:31.220 Ambition is shown in your behavior.

01:42:32.480 But what if she doesn't know?

01:42:33.960 Maybe it goes back to you splitting the bill on the first.

01:42:36.500 Yeah.

01:42:36.780 Do you exhibit your ambition from your behavior and the things you talk about and the way you

01:42:42.640 present yourself?

01:42:43.940 I think the ultimate thing, if I can do a little psychoanalysis, that might be preventing

01:42:49.700 someone like you from attaining your dream girl is just that you have this block where

01:42:56.480 you think about so much about body count, so much about her being a high-value woman instead

01:43:02.700 of just going to the date, finding someone you connect with, and then seeing, like, could

01:43:06.800 I build a family with this person?

01:43:08.460 Is this someone who's going to be loyal to me, accountable, somebody I can trust?

01:43:12.260 Will this be a good mother?

01:43:13.800 How does she react in terrible situations?

01:43:16.120 These are the questions that you should be asking your future partner.

01:43:20.080 And as a woman, I'm looking for somebody also accountable. 0.99

01:43:23.120 Am I going to need to remind him every weekend to help me with shit, or is he going to be 0.99

01:43:27.940 out there doing it? 0.99

01:43:29.320 And that body count doesn't really factor in for me, even though I don't have a high

01:43:33.440 body count.

01:43:34.140 I'm just looking for somebody who's going to, like, be my solid partner, you know?

01:43:39.320 I mean, so you're saying your dating advice to me is that I'm going in with, what, too

01:43:47.740 much expectations?

01:43:49.440 I don't even think it's expectations.

01:43:50.740 I think it's judgment.

01:43:51.800 I think you're, like, going in with a little, like, too much judgment.

01:43:57.140 Instead of taking into account all these other things, you're focused on these, like, minuscule

01:44:01.440 things, and you're...

01:44:02.800 Minuscule?

01:44:03.780 I mean, you're just not, you're not taking...

01:44:05.200 A woman's promiscuity? 1.00

01:44:05.980 You're just saying body count.

01:44:06.580 That's, like, so physical.

01:44:07.980 Like, are you not...

01:44:09.020 You're focused too much on the past, too.

01:44:10.720 You're not really focused as much towards someone's present and future, what they're working

01:44:15.480 towards, like that.

01:44:16.540 From what you've told us.

01:44:17.440 Okay.

01:44:18.520 Thank you for the feedback.

01:44:19.980 Here's what's so funny to me.

01:44:22.300 Is I think women are unaccustomed to hearing men communicate and articulate their preferences,

01:44:29.100 standards, and boundaries.

01:44:30.940 Women are the queens, or maybe the kings, I don't know, of going for exactly what they 1.00

01:44:36.320 want.

01:44:37.220 You guys have laundry lists of criteria that a guy needs to meet.

01:44:42.060 Y'all swipe left on, like, 90% of dudes. 0.52

01:44:45.340 So you're talking about physicality.

01:44:47.240 Women are much harsher judges of, if we're speaking of physical attraction, women are 1.00

01:44:51.820 far harsher judges of men on physical attractiveness than men are towards women.

01:44:57.700 As far as, like, stats, we as men, we really don't ask for a lot. 0.99

01:45:04.500 Women will have literally a list of shit that a guy has to meet. 1.00

01:45:08.520 He's got to be tall. 1.00

01:45:10.220 He's got to be good looking.

01:45:11.560 He's got to be great in bed.

01:45:12.400 He's got to be all these things.

01:45:13.780 We as men, we don't ask for a lot.

01:45:17.340 But the things that we do ask for matter a lot.

01:45:19.940 So it's just funny.

01:45:20.820 Like, men are not allowed to have preferences, standards, and boundaries.

01:45:23.820 Nobody said that.

01:45:24.580 We're not saying that.

01:45:25.360 We're just saying that.

01:45:25.940 You played a pretty ringtone when she said she was 4'11", but when somebody else said

01:45:32.260 that their preference was guys over 5'7 and up, that was, like, not good.

01:45:37.080 So it's just this constant...

01:45:38.920 No, no, no.

01:45:39.140 There's nothing.

01:45:39.620 I don't have a...

01:45:40.600 I acknowledge that women are more attracted to men that are taller.

01:45:45.360 Okay.

01:45:45.580 I don't...

01:45:45.960 But you're saying that men have less preferences.

01:45:49.020 Yes.

01:45:49.560 And women have more. 1.00

01:45:51.160 But when we went around the table and compared, just this very small test group, you know,

01:45:57.060 all of us said...

01:45:58.100 I said I dated a guy shorter than me and loved him.

01:46:01.520 We went around and said, you know, just slightly taller or whatever.

01:46:04.600 And then you really like women who are 4'11 and said that's your preference, highly.

01:46:10.040 So it's just kind of like, we all have preferences.

01:46:13.640 We're human beings.

01:46:14.940 And sorry, sorry.

01:46:15.900 So why don't we just look...

01:46:16.860 Zinchen's super chat at $99.99.

01:46:20.560 To the girl, and yes, I mean girl, I have been in SoCal for a while and the egregious rampant

01:46:26.640 vanity and mental disorders here pale far in comparison to your delusion.

01:46:30.920 No HBM will claim someone with that past that you... 0.97

01:46:34.600 Oh wait, I wanted to hear it.

01:46:37.060 No high value man will claim someone with that past that you deem worthy.

01:46:40.160 Only cats and box wine await for you.

01:46:45.200 I'm so excited for that.

01:46:47.560 Dude, Zinchen's A, thank you for the big $100 super chat, man.

01:46:50.160 Appreciate it.

01:46:50.800 I need to tweak the TTS a bit.

01:46:53.040 I think it cuts off after...

01:46:54.240 He paid $100 to tell me.

01:46:55.640 Yes.

01:46:56.200 Thank you, baby.

01:46:58.180 You're such a good boy.

01:46:59.220 Do you want to blow him a kiss here?

01:47:00.280 Look into...

01:47:00.940 Eric, can you hide that?

01:47:02.740 Which one?

01:47:03.220 This camera right here.

01:47:04.320 You're such a good boy.

01:47:06.100 Whoa.

01:47:08.400 Say that again. 0.71

01:47:11.160 For a $99 super chat, maybe.

01:47:13.300 Oh, okay.

01:47:16.120 Don't tempt him to a good time.

01:47:18.020 Okay, so just to bring it back, you were saying something about the height and how I would...

01:47:24.840 I just think it's comparable.

01:47:26.060 We have preferences that are comparable, and I don't think that women have tons more preferences 0.86

01:47:31.600 than guys.

01:47:32.540 I just think that we're looking for somebody who's not going to be judgy, who's going to

01:47:36.880 just kind of be authentic and, you know, have...

01:47:41.180 At least that's what I'm looking for.

01:47:42.440 I'm looking for a motivated guy who's going to help me with my business and build his own

01:47:47.940 and just kind of like...

01:47:49.320 I want to grow with someone, basically.

01:47:51.780 I think it's entirely fine to have preferences, whether you're a man or woman.

01:47:56.000 It's just upsetting to women when men only see us as our bodies and our body count. 1.00

01:48:00.460 Your body count doesn't have to necessarily do with your body.

01:48:06.860 That is...

01:48:07.500 Like, it's behavior...

01:48:08.500 It depends on how you value women. 0.98

01:48:09.940 I mean...

01:48:10.220 What's the first word of that?

01:48:11.360 Yeah.

01:48:12.160 No, no, no, but body count, if you've slept, aside from sexually transmitted diseases, which

01:48:20.300 we can talk about, having had a lot of sexual partners does not change your outward physical

01:48:27.260 appearance, although perhaps...

01:48:28.760 It's not only about physical appearance.

01:48:30.060 It's about how you value women's bodies. 1.00

01:48:33.020 How we value women's bodies? 1.00

01:48:36.480 I...

01:48:36.960 How I value their... 0.63

01:48:39.020 But your sexual...

01:48:41.000 Your past sexual behavior is a behavior, not your physical body.

01:48:45.720 Yeah, I understand that.

01:48:46.880 But when I see a guy who I'm interested in, I don't see him as just his past relationships

01:48:52.300 or what he's done in the past.

01:48:53.860 I see him as his personality, his intelligence, the way he treats people.

01:48:57.520 You know, there's more going on.

01:48:58.680 I certainly look at other things, too, besides just a woman's body count, if you think that 0.97

01:49:04.300 that's the only thing I care about.

01:49:06.200 But you did mention that once you find out a woman's body count, it's like an eyebrow 1.00

01:49:10.600 razor and most of the time a red flag.

01:49:12.240 Sure.

01:49:12.980 Yeah.

01:49:13.180 Women have things that might be deal breakers for them, too. 1.00

01:49:16.520 Okay, but say you never knew the woman's body count in an alternate universe. 0.81

01:49:21.580 Say you didn't know her body count, but you grew to know and love her for her and the

01:49:26.640 qualities that she has that don't have to do with her sexual past. 1.00

01:49:29.340 So you're saying, I'm with a girl, the body count thing never comes up, we've been dating

01:49:34.900 for a year, fall in love with her, and then somehow I find out she slept with 100 men before

01:49:40.520 me. 1.00

01:49:40.860 I'm a whore. 1.00

01:49:42.500 Is that kind of what you're asking? 1.00

01:49:44.280 Yeah.

01:49:45.180 Goodbye.

01:49:47.580 Goodbye.

01:49:48.560 Wait, so do people think that if you have a lower body count, you're automatically going

01:49:54.140 to be able to get a higher rated guy.

01:49:57.220 Or you're any better about it.

01:49:58.580 I don't think those two things quarrel.

01:49:59.980 Wait, can you repeat that again?

01:50:01.780 I saw a comment earlier, and somebody was saying if you have a lower body count, you're

01:50:08.020 more likely to get with the top 20% of men.

01:50:11.020 Wait, hold on.

01:50:12.260 With a lower body count.

01:50:13.320 If a girl has a lower body count, she's more likely to get with a... 1.00

01:50:17.340 Yeah, it's like...

01:50:18.400 High value man.

01:50:19.260 Yeah, high value man.

01:50:19.980 I disagree with that because let's just put into example the girls in L.A., I'd say 1.00

01:50:25.040 they have a lot higher body counts than other girls in, say, Wyoming, and who's dating those 1.00

01:50:30.300 guys in L.A., the high value ones, the girls with the high body counts, just because of 1.00

01:50:34.820 their looks, regardless of the body count.

01:50:36.540 L.A. guys are not high value.

01:50:38.300 So what I would say is that if you have a low body count, men will recognize that, and

01:50:46.380 that will be something that they value in a partner for long-term commitment.

01:50:50.920 I think you ask most men, that's a major plus if you have a low body count.

01:50:56.760 It's like relationships is more likely to be stronger if a female has a lower body count. 1.00

01:51:02.980 We're probably...

01:51:03.620 Okay, so...

01:51:04.440 Correct.

01:51:04.520 A lot of guys, when it comes to just like, for me, even if it's something casual, which

01:51:10.700 I'm not particularly interested in, I'm not interested in one-night stands, it doesn't

01:51:15.560 interest me.

01:51:16.160 If I want to sleep with someone, if I want to have sex with someone, I want a continuity,

01:51:20.380 I want to keep seeing them.

01:51:21.720 But a lot of guys will tell you for casual sex, for friends with benefits, body count,

01:51:28.360 whatever.

01:51:29.380 But for marriage, for wife, for kids, for long-term relationship, that's when they're

01:51:34.640 going to care a lot more about your past promiscuity.

01:51:38.400 So I would say, yes, if you have a low body count, you are going to be much more appealing

01:51:44.860 to a high-value man, let's say.

01:51:48.280 Okay, let's ask...

01:51:49.100 I'm going to ask this question then.

01:51:50.040 Say you were dating a girl, and she has a body count of six people, but four of those

01:51:56.760 six people were married men, or her best friend's boyfriend, or something like that.

01:52:03.120 But you don't know that information.

01:52:04.160 All you know is that her body count is six.

01:52:05.640 I still only care that it's six.

01:52:07.360 I don't care.

01:52:08.100 Yikes.

01:52:08.640 No.

01:52:10.360 Wait, can you just repeat the last part?

01:52:13.020 So she's... 0.98

01:52:13.760 The guys were married.

01:52:14.820 What was the other part of it?

01:52:15.760 Okay, so you don't know the details behind the information.

01:52:20.240 Of the body count being six.

01:52:22.320 All you know is that her body count is six, and you're comparing it to a girl with a body 1.00

01:52:26.540 count of, say, 20, who they've all been guys that she was either interested in, or dated

01:52:32.920 in some form.

01:52:35.340 You, like, you're going to say that you would rather say goodbye immediately to the girl

01:52:40.820 with 20, as opposed to the girl that has a body count of six, but four of the six were

01:52:46.160 married men, or her best friend's boyfriend, or something like that.

01:52:49.200 She's still been ran through less.

01:52:50.800 At the end of the day, she's still been ran through less.

01:52:52.460 But she's made horrible decisions.

01:52:54.480 She might have been... 0.70

01:52:55.160 We all make bad mistakes, but she's made less mistakes.

01:52:57.740 So, weren't you saying quality over quantity, or is that what you're saying?

01:53:00.700 So, the whole argument started talking about whether this was about bodies or not.

01:53:05.120 And the argument was that it's actually about, like, sexual choices.

01:53:08.320 And so, it's a sexual choice whether or not you're going to sleep with your friend's husband.

01:53:15.100 It's a sexual choice if you're going to cheat on your partner.

01:53:17.680 Those are terrible sexual choices.

01:53:19.720 That's the point she's making.

01:53:21.580 However, you're saying that...

01:53:23.080 That's a morality issue, not a...

01:53:24.420 Right.

01:53:24.900 Even if she did that with six people, horrible moral choices, you're saying that you'd still

01:53:30.060 prefer her over somebody who's been with 20 guys that were normal, moral hookups. 0.79

01:53:36.380 So, you'd choose a cheater...

01:53:38.260 Her value is still...

01:53:39.360 If we're going to get a little...

01:53:42.840 So, that means it's about the body.

01:53:44.780 The body count?

01:53:46.900 Wait, what?

01:53:47.600 You see what I'm saying?

01:53:48.820 Yeah, that's...

01:53:49.500 I don't even...

01:53:50.020 Okay, get it?

01:53:50.760 Okay.

01:53:51.260 It's not about the quality.

01:53:52.700 It's not about the quality versus quantity when it comes to a woman.

01:53:55.880 It's about the quantity.

01:53:57.800 You wanted to come in?

01:53:58.920 Go ahead.

01:53:59.160 No, I was trying to explain to you because you look so confused.

01:54:02.680 Explain.

01:54:03.120 If a girl... 1.00

01:54:04.040 You're seeing two girls.

01:54:05.680 One girl has gone with 20 people, but they were just regular guys, whatever, met through

01:54:11.020 dating apps, just normal people.

01:54:12.700 But this other girl has a body count of six, but each of those people have been a homewrecking

01:54:18.960 case, best friend's boyfriend, a married dude.

01:54:22.260 They were very immoral choices.

01:54:25.560 But it's still lower than 20.

01:54:27.220 Which matters more to you?

01:54:29.120 If she was cheating... 1.00

01:54:30.580 But you didn't know that information.

01:54:32.020 All you knew were the body counts.

01:54:33.420 You knew 20 and six.

01:54:34.420 I didn't know that.

01:54:35.120 Well, then this entire argument is invalid because you'd have to assume that you knew

01:54:38.280 that information.

01:54:39.140 I think it matters if you know.

01:54:41.020 If you know, but we're not going to know.

01:54:42.800 Okay, but the point of it is, it's like, you are then dismissing women for their body

01:54:52.620 count just based on a number and not based on the choices made with the number. 0.98

01:54:56.780 Like how many times a penis is gone inside her instead of the choices? 1.00

01:55:01.080 They still made less choices than they personally told me. 0.97

01:55:04.800 Is anyone in the chat confused?

01:55:06.620 Okay.

01:55:06.860 I'm sure everyone's confused.

01:55:08.080 I'm a little confused.

01:55:09.380 So you're comparing, I mean, it's kind of, you're comparing a woman with a low body count

01:55:15.120 who's cheated on her partner to a woman who has a 20 body count, but she's never cheated.

01:55:22.460 Like, it's just kind of like 20 versus six.

01:55:25.060 How about, how about I would just prefer the girl with six who hasn't cheated on anybody?

01:55:29.460 Well, obviously.

01:55:30.380 That's not our answer.

01:55:32.400 We were just saying how deep does like body count go?

01:55:37.240 Like, I'm just saying like, this is what I'm trying to say is like the dismissal of the

01:55:42.600 body count number, regardless of the decisions made.

01:55:46.480 So you guys, so you are dismissing a woman based on how many partners she's been with

01:55:51.940 and not, that maybe she truly loved in comparison to somebody.

01:55:56.600 If you love 20 guys, that's a problem.

01:55:58.800 Depending on your age.

01:56:00.760 That 20?

01:56:01.960 How many times do you fall in love in life?

01:56:03.520 You know, I think they say the average person kisses seven people in their life.

01:56:08.280 A woman could be a virgin and there could be other disqualifiers. 0.86

01:56:12.220 There could be other, just because you're a virgin or you have an insanely low body count,

01:56:16.900 that doesn't instantly guarantee you a relationship.

01:56:21.320 But there can be other disqualifiers.

01:56:23.860 It's not just like, oh, she's got a low body count. 1.00

01:56:25.860 That's all that matters.

01:56:26.940 There's other stuff.

01:56:28.120 But I mean, but I just want to bring it back to you.

01:56:30.260 So you said that it's disheartening to hear that women value men, or sorry, men value women

01:56:36.760 for their bodies?

01:56:40.080 Yeah.

01:56:41.000 What's the question?

01:56:41.800 I think we're talking about the body count, not the bodies.

01:56:43.940 No, but you said bodies.

01:56:47.100 I think a lot of men view women as physical.

01:56:52.880 And women don't? 1.00

01:56:55.200 I don't know.

01:56:55.840 It's fine to have physical preferences.

01:56:57.560 Are you talking about physical appearance?

01:57:01.460 Not exactly, because body count isn't exactly physical appearance, but it's something physical

01:57:05.720 about women.

01:57:06.940 But so it upsets you that men care about women?

01:57:10.640 Okay, so let's ignore body count here for a sec.

01:57:13.320 Let's talk about physical characteristics, physical attractiveness, physical appearance.

01:57:19.460 Does it bother you that men are attracted to women's physical appearance?

01:57:23.960 No, no.

01:57:25.100 No, it's fine to have physical preferences.

01:57:27.440 Just saying it's upsetting when men only care about that, when they're not valuing women

01:57:32.600 for their substance and just what they see.

01:57:34.920 Well, okay, so now to reintroduce body count into this.

01:57:39.420 So wouldn't a man preferring a woman with a low body count actually be valuing her substance 0.96

01:57:47.940 beyond her physical appearance?

01:57:50.560 Yeah, you could say that.

01:57:51.760 I'm not saying it's not okay to have preferences in regards to that.

01:57:57.220 I'm saying when men only focus on that, that's still a physical space that you're looking

01:58:01.980 into.

01:58:03.460 Let's up the number.

01:58:05.040 Six versus 30.

01:58:06.920 No, let's up the number.

01:58:08.640 The girl with 30 bodies, she's been an amazing girl. 0.98

01:58:11.780 She's never done anything wrong.

01:58:12.920 She's never cheated on anybody.

01:58:14.100 She's actually got her heart broken plenty of times.

01:58:15.740 But she still decided that 30 men were able to sleep with her versus the one with six.

01:58:22.580 Maybe she cheated on her boyfriend, her last boyfriend. 1.00

01:58:25.660 Maybe she hooked up with somebody who was married. 1.00

01:58:28.040 Maybe she doesn't even know that he was married.

01:58:31.380 So it's still at the end of the day, it's six versus 20.

01:58:34.660 It's six versus 30.

01:58:35.680 You made less, you made six bad decisions.

01:58:38.740 They made 30 bad decisions.

01:58:40.500 But why are they bad decisions?

01:58:41.540 Why are they bad decisions if they were done through, I don't know, somebody you're attracted

01:58:46.900 to?

01:58:47.160 We all make bad decisions.

01:58:47.660 The man makes bad decisions too.

01:58:49.000 It's not just a one-sided thing.

01:58:51.000 But she's more likely to be a bad person.

01:58:54.760 Like you said, she's a great girl, but she just has a body count. 1.00

01:58:57.720 I don't think those two things correlate.

01:58:59.420 I don't think having a high body count makes you a bad person.

01:59:03.120 I think what we're trying to say is, for a lot of men, and at least speaking for me,

01:59:07.860 and I think this is also a kid's position, if you have a high body count, if you have

01:59:12.060 a promiscuous past, it precludes you from a long-term serious relationship with us and

01:59:18.680 with a lot of men.

01:59:19.460 And also, it makes it harder to bond with your partner as well.

01:59:21.760 That girl with the six bodies, she'll have an easier time bonding with you versus the 1.00

01:59:26.220 girl with 30. 0.98

01:59:27.820 She's more likely to cheat on you. 1.00

01:59:29.740 There's a whole bunch of reasons why body count matters.

01:59:32.140 A whole bunch.

01:59:33.800 Let's see.

01:59:34.220 Maybe she's cheated two out of the six times, maybe. 1.00

01:59:36.740 Let's just say she cheated on two of the six guys that she was with. 1.00

01:59:40.720 Well, that's two bad decisions versus her being with 20 to 30 bodies. 1.00

01:59:46.340 But didn't you say earlier that you referred to cheating as, like, the same way with crimes.

01:59:52.720 You were talking about patterns repeating.

01:59:55.260 So now are you taking back what you said earlier?

01:59:57.840 Just because she has cheated doesn't mean she will cheat again.

02:00:00.680 And she could continue to still be a cheater. 1.00

02:00:03.760 And at that point, you're making a choice.

02:00:07.160 Do you want to stay with somebody who you know has cheated?

02:00:09.240 If I knew that, in general, I would probably take her way less seriously, regardless of

02:00:13.780 the body count.

02:00:15.780 Okay.

02:00:16.100 So yes or no?

02:00:16.680 Are you taking back what you said earlier?

02:00:18.080 I don't take back anything.

02:00:19.280 I say dear.

02:00:19.980 Okay.

02:00:20.200 So you're just contradicting yourself.

02:00:24.040 I don't think I contradicted myself at all.

02:00:26.040 Yes, you did.

02:00:27.620 But it's all right.

02:00:28.160 A pattern's a pattern. 1.00

02:00:29.280 But are you going to be stupid enough to jump into that pattern or be the third person that 1.00

02:00:33.260 she cheats on? 1.00

02:00:33.900 Or are you going to avoid it?

02:00:36.520 Well, two seconds ago, you just said that you would be willing to be with a girl that

02:00:40.660 has cheated twice of her six. 1.00

02:00:43.140 Does, I mean, I'd rather be stupid than, or it's just the point of, do you want to be stupid 1.00

02:00:48.300 or not? 1.00

02:00:49.140 So are you going to be stupid? 1.00

02:00:50.840 Do you choose to be stupid? 1.00

02:00:52.500 You could be. 1.00

02:00:53.320 I've made plenty of stupid decisions because I knew it was stupid. 1.00

02:00:56.520 I did it anyway. 1.00

02:00:57.380 Okay.

02:00:57.620 So you're still contradicting yourself.

02:00:59.280 I don't think so.

02:01:00.040 I feel like this is why women lie about their body count. 1.00

02:01:03.060 This is why.

02:01:04.800 Well, I think you should be honest.

02:01:06.360 But let me ask you a question.

02:01:08.040 So just, I want to make sure I understand what you said before.

02:01:11.020 So you said that it bothered you or upset you a little bit that men care so much about

02:01:17.880 body count.

02:01:18.460 I just want to, I don't want to misquote you.

02:01:19.800 I just want to know kind of what your stance is on this.

02:01:22.460 So just using what you were saying as an example, it matters more to you that someone

02:01:27.520 has slept with more people than a girl who's like cheated on previous partners.

02:01:31.920 It makes you less special as well.

02:01:33.420 So what I'm saying is if I found out, you know, I was interested in a guy, if he had

02:01:39.140 cheated on someone before, that's a huge red flag to me.

02:01:42.180 Whereas say he made mistakes, like, you know, he went through a little bit of a whole phase.

02:01:47.480 That's less important to me than him cheating.

02:01:50.760 Well, let's bring it back to body count.

02:01:52.920 We can compare infidelity and body count or whatever.

02:01:55.980 But so your thing was that it, it, it Martin super chatted $50, BCS of oxytocin and estrogen.

02:02:07.020 The more partners you have adulterates our femininity. 1.00

02:02:09.780 It makes you more jaded, disconnected, pessimistic.

02:02:13.980 Trauma develops us.

02:02:15.660 It scars you.

02:02:16.920 That's how trauma acts through the filter.

02:02:18.980 Through the filter of testosterone versus estrogen.

02:02:22.060 Sorry.

02:02:22.380 We got to fix the TTS so it reads for longer.

02:02:24.920 Hey, Martin, thank you, man.

02:02:25.800 Appreciate it.

02:02:26.500 We'll pull this back up here in a sec.

02:02:28.300 So just, I want you to reiterate, I guess, what you originally said, what, which was it

02:02:36.840 upsets you that men value women's body.

02:02:41.280 Just can you re-say it?

02:02:45.940 Just like to say what I said before.

02:02:48.480 Yeah.

02:02:48.700 Um, I think that it's fine to have preference, whether that be your physical appearance or

02:02:56.600 your body count, but it's upsetting when men only value the physical aspects of women.

02:03:04.680 You know?

02:03:05.100 Only value?

02:03:06.160 I don't think any man only values the physical characteristics of a woman.

02:03:10.660 We definitely take into consideration that's the whole point why attraction exists.

02:03:13.640 Right, but you value someone who is...

02:03:15.420 She's talking about physical past, not physical appearance.

02:03:18.720 But your body count, okay, if you have a high body count, that means that you were promiscuous

02:03:25.240 in your past or you currently are promiscuous.

02:03:29.880 So that's a behavioral thing.

02:03:33.320 That says something, and it could also just be viewed as a red flag.

02:03:36.940 Like, why isn't it the case that she hasn't had any long-term partners, but she's slept with 0.85

02:03:43.000 20 men?

02:03:43.900 Are they seeing something going on with her?

02:03:47.940 Is she...

02:03:48.360 Or, or either they're not willing to commit to her, which means there's potentially something

02:03:53.920 wrong with her, or she's not wanting to commit to those men, which means she's either promiscuous

02:04:01.160 or she's sleeping with the wrong men. 1.00

02:04:05.380 I was going to say, either way, it's going to be that the problem is her, either way.

02:04:09.760 Because she doesn't have to open her legs.

02:04:12.040 She can stay...

02:04:12.720 She can keep them shut.

02:04:13.560 If she knows that there's a problem...

02:04:14.560 Are you holding yourself to the same standards?

02:04:16.140 Well, men and women, we just stated earlier, men and women's sexual lifestyles are viewed

02:04:22.180 differently.

02:04:22.560 Um, she doesn't have... 1.00

02:04:25.480 She's choosing to make a bad decision versus she did something that she might regret later.

02:04:30.960 So, the problem is you're seeing it as a bad decision.

02:04:33.920 Whereas, you said earlier...

02:04:35.440 Cheating is the bad decision. 0.98

02:04:36.700 Sex... 0.99

02:04:36.980 Tilt your mic up. 0.99

02:04:37.920 Tilt your mic up.

02:04:39.400 Second.

02:04:40.120 A little more.

02:04:41.700 Perfect.

02:04:42.140 Go ahead. 0.80

02:04:42.880 You said earlier, sex can be recreational for bonding, whatever.

02:04:47.660 It's not necessarily a bad decision.

02:04:49.460 But your view on body count is that every single, like, tick is a bad decision, something

02:04:55.300 that's counting against her.

02:04:57.080 Well, okay, when I said recreation, I am really meaning you can have...

02:05:01.900 Zentians super chatted, $49.99.

02:05:04.380 Thank you, Zentians.

02:05:05.760 Men focusing on body count is justifiably valid because we look at your lack of mental and 1.00

02:05:10.620 moral fortitude.

02:05:12.200 That indiscriminate behavior shows she will lack virtuous conviction when it comes to us 0.94

02:05:16.360 in our children slash family name.

02:05:19.460 Women represent their man. 1.00

02:05:23.280 Yeah.

02:05:23.500 So, when I was talking about recreation, like, sex for recreation, I meant with a partner.

02:05:30.180 Not, like, not just recreationally for fun one time when you're in Cancun.

02:05:35.440 Right.

02:05:35.900 Sure.

02:05:36.360 What if someone's had 20 people that they've generally, like, connected with?

02:05:40.300 20?

02:05:40.780 I mean...

02:05:41.500 It's unlikely.

02:05:42.640 That just makes you less special.

02:05:44.740 Let's say...

02:05:45.340 Why does it make you less special?

02:05:46.600 No, no.

02:05:47.400 You're misunderstanding what I'm saying, dear.

02:05:49.800 If you're the woman with the 20 bodies and I am the man, if you've connected with 20 0.76

02:05:55.440 other people, it makes me less special to you.

02:05:58.720 Let me ask you a question.

02:06:00.160 Let's say you've had...

02:06:01.600 Let's say you meet a guy and you know that he's dated and slept with 100 women before you.

02:06:08.660 You're number 101.

02:06:10.360 All of those didn't work out.

02:06:12.440 Yeah, no.

02:06:12.960 That would be a red flag to me.

02:06:14.220 I'm not saying...

02:06:15.160 Well, thank you.

02:06:15.960 Yeah.

02:06:16.720 That's what I'm trying to say.

02:06:17.880 I'm not saying it's not okay to have preference with that.

02:06:19.820 I'm saying it's how you value those things.

02:06:22.600 Well, let me ask you a question.

02:06:24.560 Do you also...

02:06:25.500 Would you also take quarrel with a woman who... 1.00

02:06:27.960 And I think it's the case that women, generally speaking, care far less about a man's body 0.80

02:06:32.880 count than do men care about women's body count? 0.99

02:06:35.380 But let's say you knew...

02:06:36.260 Maybe you might...

02:06:36.980 You guys might know a girl who's... 0.99

02:06:39.380 Maybe she's inexperienced. 0.99

02:06:41.120 Maybe she's a bit naive.

02:06:43.140 And, you know, maybe she's a virgin. 1.00

02:06:45.180 And she's like, hey, I don't really want to date a player.

02:06:47.700 I don't want to date a guy who has a high body count.

02:06:50.100 I'd rather just meet a nice guy who...

02:06:53.920 And so her standard was, hey, I don't want to date a promiscuous guy.

02:06:58.680 I don't want to date a guy with a high body count.

02:07:00.520 Would you take issue with her having that preference?

02:07:03.880 Just like I said before, it's fine to have preference.

02:07:06.880 It's about how you value it.

02:07:10.640 Where you place it on the totem pole of what matters most.

02:07:13.060 Well, I think your question is also different because you're saying the female is a virgin.

02:07:18.720 Or very inexperienced.

02:07:21.520 Okay, well, I mean, we can...

02:07:23.620 My position is, I think, what I would like to see is both men and women

02:07:29.840 valuing monogamy and serious long-term relationships.

02:07:33.640 Yeah, I agree.

02:07:34.100 I think there are definitely some men out there.

02:07:36.620 And I will let Cade argue that if he wants,

02:07:40.440 that a man's body count is not as important as a woman's body count.

02:07:44.340 And I think, well, women reinforce this because, you know... 1.00

02:07:48.080 Actually, oh, this came to me.

02:07:49.540 Okay, I'll ask this question.

02:07:50.580 So, think of your ideal guy.

02:07:56.260 Ideal guy, I don't know if maybe you have a celebrity crush.

02:07:59.680 Do any of you have a celebrity crush?

02:08:02.540 Who?

02:08:03.440 Jacob Elordi.

02:08:04.600 No idea who that is.

02:08:06.000 Have you seen Euphoria?

02:08:07.540 No.

02:08:10.000 So, anybody else have a celebrity crush?

02:08:12.740 Do you have...

02:08:13.320 Diane, right?

02:08:14.020 Yes.

02:08:14.620 Do you have a celebrity crush?

02:08:15.680 I'm just thinking.

02:08:16.200 I know I do.

02:08:17.560 Seth Rogen?

02:08:18.100 I love him, though, love him, though.

02:08:23.100 Like, top of my head, Timothee Chalamet.

02:08:27.720 Okay, anybody else?

02:08:29.900 That's actually a good one because Timothee Chalamet recently has been a hot topic

02:08:34.680 for when he was...

02:08:35.620 He's soon to be engaged or something, or maybe engaged now, too, in Zendaya.

02:08:39.640 But it just recently came out about him in the past.

02:08:42.440 Are you talking about Tom Holland?

02:08:44.340 Oh, wait, no.

02:08:44.780 But Timothee Chalamet is the one with NYU.

02:08:46.660 The whole...

02:08:47.160 Okay, yeah.

02:08:47.540 It recently came out about his past that he infected a good chunk of NYU when he was

02:08:54.600 there with STDs.

02:08:55.840 Yikes.

02:08:56.100 Which one?

02:08:57.440 What do you mean?

02:08:58.020 Which NYU?

02:08:59.220 No, which purpose?

02:08:59.660 Is it an STD that goes away, or you're stuck with it?

02:09:03.220 I think it was, like, Chavidia or something.

02:09:04.720 Oh, good times. 0.99

02:09:06.180 Damn. 0.99

02:09:06.560 Yeah, it recently came out about... 1.00

02:09:08.360 And his PR team...

02:09:09.820 Go ahead, sorry.

02:09:10.680 Go ahead.

02:09:10.920 The point I'm trying to make is, let's say you met your celebrity crush, like, your ideal

02:09:17.020 guy.

02:09:17.480 Would you be more willing to tolerate...

02:09:19.780 Let's say you're the main girl, right? 0.68

02:09:22.900 But he's going to have side chicks.

02:09:25.100 Would you tolerate that from a guy who's of a high enough status?

02:09:29.560 This literally just happened to me.

02:09:32.940 For...

02:09:33.260 Okay.

02:09:33.400 I went on a date with the celebrity crush.

02:09:37.480 Let me just finish off this thing.

02:09:39.880 Wow.

02:09:41.720 Look, a lot of women see a celebrity in the club. 1.00

02:09:45.640 They see Drake.

02:09:46.780 They see... 1.00

02:09:47.820 I don't know who's fucking... 0.99

02:09:50.260 I don't really keep tabs on pop culture and all this shit, but, like, they see Timothee 0.99

02:09:54.680 Chalamet in the club. 0.95

02:09:56.280 They're not, like, looking at that guy and expecting him to be loyal to them.

02:10:01.140 Or have a low body count.

02:10:02.200 That's so not exactly what I'm looking for in a relationship.

02:10:05.240 It's not true.

02:10:05.960 Loyalty.

02:10:06.480 Yeah.

02:10:06.940 But most women will not pass up on the opportunity to get with a guy like that. 0.72

02:10:12.280 That's not true.

02:10:12.700 Women will gladly share a guy of a high enough status. 0.98

02:10:16.060 Whereas, for me, I don't...

02:10:19.020 I'm trying to think about Kristen Kruik in her prime.

02:10:21.260 I don't know.

02:10:21.680 Some super babe.

02:10:23.600 Who's, like, a really attractive girl that's, like...

02:10:25.720 Margot Robbie.

02:10:26.120 Megan Fox.

02:10:27.240 Margot Robbie.

02:10:28.100 We can go for Margot.

02:10:28.900 Yeah, Margot Robbie.

02:10:29.620 A woman who's way out of my league, incredibly attractive, I'm not sharing her.

02:10:35.860 If there's the option to hook up with her, even for a one-night stand, even if there's

02:10:40.740 an option to hook up with her and she's sleeping with other guys, I am not interested. 1.00

02:10:45.540 I don't care how hot she is. 1.00

02:10:46.760 Whereas, for women, if the guy is hot enough, they will share him. 1.00

02:10:50.500 That's the difference.

02:10:51.380 That's true.

02:10:52.080 Or high value enough.

02:10:53.060 Or high value enough.

02:10:54.620 Oh, okay.

02:10:55.760 Thank you.

02:10:56.260 That's not my view.

02:10:57.000 That's not my view.

02:10:58.080 And I literally just experienced this.

02:10:59.960 Like, my dream person took me on a date and we shared a meal and I could tell that I was

02:11:05.400 not the only person that he was interested in and I never saw him again.

02:11:09.740 Let's use Leonardo DiCaprio as an example.

02:11:12.720 Obviously, he does date one specific girl at a time, but do you really think that one

02:11:16.380 girl thinks that she's the only girl? 0.99

02:11:18.080 They know that they're not the only girl.

02:11:20.140 And they're okay with that because he's Leonardo DiCaprio.

02:11:22.780 But those people are not really looking.

02:11:24.560 Those are not high value.

02:11:25.460 They're not looking for relationships, like strong relationships that they're going for

02:11:29.000 this.

02:11:29.120 Well, they may not be a super strong relationship, but they'd still want to do it.

02:11:33.640 I also think in this industry, a lot of women date higher position men to move forward

02:11:39.340 and network, unfortunately.

02:11:40.180 Wasn't the topic of question high value women? 1.00

02:11:44.860 What was it?

02:11:45.300 Was it?

02:11:45.760 I thought the topic of all of this was high value women in regards to this. 1.00

02:11:50.140 I also have a question in regards about a man's body count and to you women. 0.53

02:11:55.240 So, ladies, does it matter to you, the guy that you're seeing, does it matter if he 1.00

02:12:02.560 can fuck you good? 1.00

02:12:04.400 Or does it? 1.00

02:12:05.240 Because here's the question. 1.00

02:12:06.600 To fuck you good, he's got to go through a bunch of other women in the past to learn 1.00

02:12:12.360 how to fuck you. 1.00

02:12:13.140 I don't think that's true. 1.00

02:12:14.540 I don't think so. 0.99

02:12:16.940 From a guy's perspective, an 18-year-old is not going to know how to fuck just because 1.00

02:12:21.560 he watches porn. 1.00

02:12:22.880 Totally accurate. 1.00

02:12:24.600 A 35-year-old is going to know how to fuck because he's had a plethora of women. 1.00

02:12:29.160 But say you're dating a 25-year-old who's been in a three-year relationship with another 1.00

02:12:33.480 girl, tried a bunch of stuff with her, and knows how to fuck her, and then he knows how 1.00

02:12:36.960 to fuck you. 1.00

02:12:38.400 It's just one relationship, one body. 1.00

02:12:40.520 He's fucking me. 1.00

02:12:41.200 See, here's the example that really matters versus whether you're fucking a 4-foot-11 girl 1.00

02:12:46.960 or a girl that's 6 foot. 1.00

02:12:51.100 Gotcha. 1.00

02:12:51.620 You fuck them differently. 1.00

02:12:52.420 What if they're fucking together? 1.00

02:12:53.620 Calm. 1.00

02:12:54.840 You fuck them different. 1.00

02:12:56.100 You fuck them differently. 1.00

02:12:56.960 Well, obviously. 1.00

02:12:57.680 Sex is about angles.

02:13:00.320 Sex is about angles versus you're able to pick them up, the things you're able to do,

02:13:04.520 the positions you're able to do with them. 1.00

02:13:06.820 You can't fuck this. 1.00

02:13:08.060 Like a thick chick, you're going to fuck her differently than a little petite thing. 1.00

02:13:12.840 Yeah, yeah. 1.00

02:13:13.780 A little petite thing.

02:13:14.720 And let's just say this guy has been with only tall women, so he's not going to know 1.00

02:13:20.900 how to fuck a short queen. 1.00

02:13:23.960 But it doesn't mean that you can't teach him. 1.00

02:13:25.240 It's not going to be immediately, maybe after a while, but you want a man that can fuck 1.00

02:13:31.080 you and get you going. 1.00

02:13:33.780 Yeah.

02:13:34.120 And he has to have bodies under his belt.

02:13:36.420 And disagree.

02:13:37.620 I disagree.

02:13:38.140 I disagree.

02:13:38.940 I feel like body count for men, personally, I don't think it matters that much.

02:13:43.180 I don't think it does.

02:13:44.740 As long as they don't show that, or no, let me wear this right.

02:13:49.020 As long as they aren't showing disinterest in me because of their high body count, it

02:13:55.620 doesn't affect me.

02:13:56.600 Why would that affect me?

02:13:57.620 So you guys are fine with a guy with a super low body count who is horrible in the bedroom

02:14:03.400 with you. 0.99

02:14:03.820 It doesn't matter to you whether he fucks you really good or not. 0.99

02:14:06.080 Is that important to you? 1.00

02:14:07.320 I prefer better sex over... 0.91

02:14:09.540 Well, he's not going to have a low body count. 0.88

02:14:11.280 Well, then body count does not matter.

02:14:12.700 That's not true. 0.99

02:14:12.920 If he's in relationships, then he doesn't know how to fuck if he's in a relationship. 0.99

02:14:16.960 He's only... 0.99

02:14:17.540 Well, just because he's been with one person for two years...

02:14:19.320 Maybe it took you a long time to learn, but I think other guys didn't catch up. 0.99

02:14:22.660 Just because he's been with one person for two years doesn't mean he knows how to fuck 0.97

02:14:26.740 anybody besides that one person. 0.99

02:14:27.920 Right.

02:14:28.240 If that one person isn't adventurous, but say he was with somebody who's really into

02:14:32.960 all sorts of fun stuff and she orders BDSM products online, then he's into it.

02:14:38.380 The exception doesn't make the rule.

02:14:39.380 I don't think body count in a guy necessarily correlates to his skill in bed because a guy

02:14:44.080 who's had like, say, five long-term girlfriends versus he's slept with 50 chicks, but only

02:14:50.560 one or two times each, he's probably had more sex in those relationships.

02:14:55.160 And more adventurous sex, more exploratory.

02:14:58.780 And it's probably been boring and it's probably been basic.

02:15:00.660 No.

02:15:01.480 That's the opposite.

02:15:02.740 I disagree with you a little bit on that, but I'm not saying a guy who's only had a bunch

02:15:08.040 of casual relationships, he can be good in bed too, but I'm saying like, I don't think 0.98

02:15:12.720 body count necessarily, like if a guy's body counts five, he could be fucking killer in 0.99

02:15:17.840 bed. 0.98

02:15:17.940 Well, let's just say the guy that has a body count, let's say of a hundred, he's going 1.00

02:15:21.740 to fuck you better than a guy with a body count of two. 1.00

02:15:24.460 Disagree. 1.00

02:15:25.180 Disagree.

02:15:25.460 Not necessarily.

02:15:27.120 And just experience.

02:15:28.500 You're not a, let's just, you practice in a sport.

02:15:32.240 It makes you better.

02:15:33.520 Sure.

02:15:33.800 But if you, okay. 0.99

02:15:34.760 So you dedicate 10,000 hours to your sport of fucking 10,000 women, but you dedicate 10,000 1.00

02:15:41.080 hours to your sport of fucking your one partner and you try a whole bunch of new stuff with 0.99

02:15:45.520 them. 1.00

02:15:45.820 It's the same experience.

02:15:47.260 So that only works with her. 1.00

02:15:49.400 It is not.

02:15:50.040 It's not more beautiful.

02:15:50.900 It's not more exciting.

02:15:52.020 Just because it worked with her in a certain way that you did it.

02:15:54.940 You get different experiences with different people.

02:15:56.960 I see what you mean because women's orgasm response is very varied.

02:16:00.700 Different.

02:16:01.020 And it's like completely different.

02:16:02.320 Between different women. 0.99

02:16:03.240 Every different woman.

02:16:04.080 I kind of see what you're saying where if you have a bit more experience, like, because

02:16:07.740 what works for one girl doesn't work for another. 1.00

02:16:10.160 I see what you mean there.

02:16:11.340 But you did mention the, it's not going to be freaky or whatever.

02:16:15.020 It doesn't have to always be, but I'm assuming that a guy that's only been with two women,

02:16:19.640 it's probably not as freaky as a guy who's been with 50.

02:16:23.560 I think through every man or every new partner that you have or same partner that you have,

02:16:29.440 you teach each other things and you learn from each other.

02:16:32.380 Not if you're both vanilla.

02:16:33.500 Not if one of them's vanilla.

02:16:34.700 Well, what I would say, though, to that is you're not really going to be able to explore

02:16:39.820 some kinks in a one-night stand, really. 0.94

02:16:43.900 Right.

02:16:44.180 Like, in a relationship, that's when you can go, I think, deeper into. 1.00

02:16:49.420 But if you have a one-night stand, you better know how to fuck her right. 1.00

02:16:53.240 Sure. 1.00

02:16:53.840 Nobody's arguing.

02:16:54.700 But wait. 0.99

02:16:55.460 But what is her version of fucking her right in comparison to somebody else? 0.99

02:16:59.360 So say you're. 0.99

02:17:00.200 How often?

02:17:00.800 When's the last time you were with a man that made you come?

02:17:06.120 That is none of your business.

02:17:07.460 Very recently.

02:17:08.920 Very recently.

02:17:09.780 Well, how rare is that to happen?

02:17:11.800 It's not that rare.

02:17:13.080 If you have good communication.

02:17:15.540 It's actually very rare compared to.

02:17:18.160 How are you going to tell me what's rare and what's not rare?

02:17:20.780 Well, I mean, I watch a lot of podcasts, so I'm just.

02:17:23.000 There's also statistics on how many girls' fake orgasms we could bring up for you that might not be.

02:17:27.980 All I'm just.

02:17:31.080 Well, let me.

02:17:31.620 Can I ask you a question?

02:17:32.480 So if you're just having a bunch of one-night stands, right? 0.62

02:17:35.920 From what I've heard from women is if you're having casual sex with guys, in those scenarios, guys are going to be much more focused on their own pleasure than getting the girl off. 0.88

02:17:47.060 And if you're just, like, fucking the girl one time, you're going to be, like, a little less concerned with getting her off. 0.97

02:17:54.320 And your idea. 0.99

02:17:54.980 I mean, I'll still be able to do it.

02:17:56.360 See, I take.

02:17:58.020 My enjoyment is her enjoyment.

02:18:00.500 I like it.

02:18:01.220 Well, what if you don't know her enjoyment, then? 1.00

02:18:03.280 How are you going to fuck her good if you don't know her enjoyment? 1.00

02:18:05.600 Well, making her come. 1.00

02:18:06.260 You got to know how to make her come. 1.00

02:18:08.100 Okay, but what if you have never fucked her before? 1.00

02:18:09.820 How are you going to make her come? 1.00

02:18:10.780 Being with a lot of girls.

02:18:12.020 Being with all the girls.

02:18:13.140 Being with 50 girls who come in different ways. 1.00

02:18:16.100 You're going to fuck the same girl the way you fuck all 50 girls? 1.00

02:18:18.200 If plan A didn't work, plan B didn't work, plan C can work. 1.00

02:18:22.360 If you're going to fuck me the same way you fucked 50 other girls, I'm sorry. 1.00

02:18:27.120 Well, that's the point. 1.00

02:18:27.740 We're not supposed to fuck you the same way. 0.99

02:18:29.560 Okay, but if you've been with 50 other girls as a comparison to being with one person that you have gotten to know and understood. 0.99

02:18:36.740 At the end of the day, 80% of marriages divorce because of sex.

02:18:42.320 Whether you're not having it or whether it's not pleasurable.

02:18:45.060 Look up the stat.

02:18:45.780 80% of divorce factors in a lack of sex, a lack of good sex.

02:18:57.400 Erroneous.

02:18:58.680 Erroneous.

02:18:59.740 I would say I kind of disagree with you on that.

02:19:03.160 The divorce stats, as far as I know, the leading cause of divorce is typically finance.

02:19:09.540 Finance.

02:19:10.100 Finance. 1.00

02:19:10.880 But 80% of those divorces wouldn't happen if you could fuck her better. 1.00

02:19:14.500 I don't agree. 1.00

02:19:16.400 There could be something to that.

02:19:17.800 Subjective, but okay.

02:19:20.660 But I agree with you in the sense of even for like something more casual, like you are still focused on the girl's pleasure.

02:19:26.400 Like for me, I'm always like, I'm going to make her come first. 1.00

02:19:29.840 Then I'm going to come after. 0.87

02:19:31.440 So, but actually really quick, let's go around the table on this.

02:19:35.260 So, if the sex is bad, is it a wrap?

02:19:40.760 And guys, we will get caught up on the super chats.

02:19:43.540 We're going to go around the table on this and then we'll do super chats.

02:19:46.620 I see all the super chats, guys.

02:19:47.560 We will get to them.

02:19:48.240 So, if the sex is bad, is it a wrap?

02:19:52.320 Okay.

02:19:52.460 I've had this experience, but first date, if the sex is bad and I know the guy isn't very experienced, give him another chance.

02:20:00.740 If I'm really into him, if I love this guy, like I'm ready to kind of commit to him, give him another chance and try again and then see if that connection is there.

02:20:09.700 Because what matters to me more is not that the guy knows what moves to make.

02:20:13.600 It's more that like we can like, you know, feel it and like really get into it.

02:20:18.400 And the passion is what matters.

02:20:20.440 So, I think that there's room for the guy to learn in my book.

02:20:25.440 Sure.

02:20:26.440 Depends on the situation.

02:20:28.740 Maybe first time nerves.

02:20:30.520 Let's say the performance isn't really up to par the first.

02:20:33.000 Depends on the case, yeah.

02:20:35.120 And what happens if it's bad on the situation number two, number three?

02:20:38.520 I don't know, I've never had to worry about that before, so I guess I haven't thought of it.

02:20:41.880 But what if it occurred?

02:20:42.920 Like, let's say you like the guy, but sex wasn't great, you know. 0.86

02:20:48.240 Or is the sex just always bomb with you?

02:20:52.220 If I really liked the guy, I'd be about more than just that.

02:20:56.460 Okay.

02:20:58.860 I mean, I feel like if they suck during like the initial time, if you're communicating and you're saying like what you want and what you don't like that they do, it's going to improve.

02:21:08.520 Like, if you're going into it and you're like, he didn't know that I wanted this specifically, yeah, it's going to suck because you're not telling him what you want.

02:21:16.520 And that goes both ways. 0.99

02:21:17.520 If you want like a certain thing done in bed and that's going to make you cum, say it. 0.97

02:21:22.840 Tell us, please. 0.54

02:21:23.680 Well, what happens if he still has to hit the spot after five, ten times? 1.00

02:21:28.840 If he can't fuck you, you're going to disappear. 0.99

02:21:31.960 Listen, not necessarily disappear, but give valid feedback. 1.00

02:21:37.260 And then if it still doesn't improve, yes, sex is extremely important when it comes to long-term commitment.

02:21:42.320 I cannot argue that.

02:21:43.560 But when what we're talking about, that comes with experience and having more sex under your belt, regardless whether it's with one person. 0.96

02:21:52.060 And like the way you cum is not going to be the same way you cum. 0.51

02:21:54.780 So you've got to know how to make, and it depends on how many partners you have, but you have to figure out you can't just be a one-trick pony.

02:22:04.320 And you practice more tricks by getting in more practice.

02:22:09.460 Let's continue going around the table on this.

02:22:11.380 What about you? 0.75

02:22:11.780 I feel like good sex comes with having a lot of passion.

02:22:16.960 So if you're really vibing with a person, first date, and you have sex, and it's not that good, I feel like you can give them another try.

02:22:23.000 What if it's not so good the next time for you?

02:22:27.620 But it really depends on how much I'm liking this person.

02:22:30.360 If I'm not looking for anything serious, then yeah, probably.

02:22:34.860 What are you looking for?

02:22:36.520 In this exact moment?

02:22:37.780 Sure.

02:22:39.640 Situationship.

02:22:40.000 You're looking for a situationship.

02:22:41.500 Yeah, I think I'd be perfect for that, honestly.

02:22:44.200 Okay, her DMs are open.

02:22:45.280 You heard that, ladies and gentlemen.

02:22:48.180 But yeah, so with that, it's like, if it's bad and you're not looking for anything, then why do it again, you know?

02:22:54.540 Okay.

02:22:55.760 I mean, I think if you have chemistry and you're willing to, like if you really like them in the first time, yeah, it's not great, I do think that you can improve it by telling them.

02:23:06.760 And if they're...

02:23:07.320 Tilt the microphone down towards you.

02:23:08.700 And if they're open to, you know, getting you off and like listening to what you're saying, then yeah, I think it can get better.

02:23:18.300 But I mean, also, if they're not and they are kind of just caring about themselves, then yeah, that's a no.

02:23:23.880 I definitely think there's room for growth.

02:23:26.540 No pun intended.

02:23:29.080 But no, I really do.

02:23:30.560 I think what the consensus has said, I think when there is love and passion there, that there is opportunity for growth and learning.

02:23:42.920 But I feel like if there is no improvement long term, that no, like it depends what you value.

02:23:48.940 It depends what you value.

02:23:49.900 Personally, if it's not getting any better and it's something that doesn't seem like can be taught or not willing to switch something up or learn, then yeah, it may be a bit of a turnoff.

02:24:03.060 But long term.

02:24:05.040 See, here's a problem, though, is regardless, I've been in two situations where the woman was absolutely beautiful.

02:24:13.280 I was very physically attracted to her.

02:24:14.680 But in the bedroom, you can make an argument that the quicker sex the guy has, the faster he comes, the more he enjoys it or the better the sex is for him.

02:24:24.840 Where you can go hours.

02:24:26.460 I've gone, there's multiple situations with these two women in the past year where the sex would be three hours long, nonstop, and I couldn't finish. 1.00

02:24:37.660 And that's, but there was, I've also been with women that I can fuck her six times in three hours. 1.00

02:24:44.680 But it just, it's, there's, it's, it's, it's, it's the body chemistry. 0.99

02:24:50.040 Also, how much alcohol you have in your system.

02:24:52.300 Well, the times that we, both of those situations where one round, three hours, just, there was no alcohol.

02:25:00.160 Crazy.

02:25:00.920 And you, it just boils down to how much you actually physically like them and how much body chemistry do you have.

02:25:06.960 You won't know until you're in the bed.

02:25:08.840 Wait, did you say the three hours was with someone you didn't feel chemistry with or you did?

02:25:12.900 And physical, like I, I found her very beautiful inside the bedroom.

02:25:19.920 Not so much.

02:25:20.700 It just, she was enjoying it.

02:25:22.680 She thought because I could go three hours nonstop, she wasn't having the time of her life.

02:25:28.020 And she, she, she would hit me up later on. 0.98

02:25:31.340 But I just, I try, I gave her three different tries.

02:25:33.760 This one girl, I gave her three different tries. 0.91

02:25:35.760 I'm like, maybe it'll, maybe I'll enjoy it later on.

02:25:38.040 So, but it was always just extremely long rounds and a guy that's really enjoying it is going to finish fast.

02:25:45.920 Yeah.

02:25:46.600 But did you like communicate with her or did you just assume that she should figure it out?

02:25:50.400 Well, there's nothing she was, there's nothing she was doing wrong.

02:25:52.020 Well, then like if there's something you need to come, that's not happening, you're physically attracted to her, but the sex is not feeling it.

02:25:59.980 Like, why would you not just say, oh, like, let's try this.

02:26:02.900 It was nothing to do with her.

02:26:04.480 Oh.

02:26:05.580 Then you're not as physically attracted to her.

02:26:07.800 I feel like physical attraction.

02:26:08.200 Very beautiful face, perfect body, very beautiful face and a perfect body.

02:26:11.660 Sometimes it's just like the person won't vibe with you sexually.

02:26:14.680 Yeah.

02:26:15.180 And sometimes it just isn't there and that's okay.

02:26:17.700 Oh.

02:26:18.420 Sexual attraction is different than just like physical attraction.

02:26:21.540 Yeah, I mean, okay, so my take on this is, and I don't know, my, and we'll watch the video on this, my view on this is very similar to Andrew Tate's view on this.

02:26:33.980 I know you guys don't like Andrew Tate, but actually he has, I think a very, I think a take that some of you might like is, you know, like if a girl is genuinely trying, she's trying her best,

02:26:49.120 but maybe she, she's not that good.

02:26:53.860 First off, it's very hard for a woman to be bad in bed. 1.00

02:26:57.780 Like, men are going to be the drivers of bad sex. 0.80

02:27:02.020 Like, a woman really doesn't need to do much. 1.00

02:27:05.580 It's not, it's not about her being bad, it's just, you just don't enjoy it with her. 1.00

02:27:10.400 Well, it takes a lot for a girl to fuck up sex. 1.00

02:27:14.220 Like, honestly, a girl can do very little and the sex can still be great. 0.99

02:27:19.280 Like, a girl really doesn't have to do all that much for the sex to be good. 1.00

02:27:24.000 But let me just finish my thing here.

02:27:25.320 So, as long as she's, like, best effort, as long as she's trying, you know, if she doesn't, like, some guys are thinking, oh, well, a lot of girls think, oh, man, here's how I get a guy. 1.00

02:27:37.020 I gotta suck his dick really good and I gotta fuck him really good. 1.00

02:27:41.240 No. 1.00

02:27:41.900 Like, the way you're gonna get a guy is, is everything else that you're bringing outside of the bedroom.

02:27:47.560 You have to offer more than just sex. 0.83

02:27:50.420 That's what's gonna turn me on. 1.00

02:27:51.660 It's not, it's not, like, how good you can suck dick or the way in which you can maneuver your pelvis on top of me. 1.00

02:28:02.040 Like, that is not important to me. 0.99

02:28:04.860 I don't, like, you know, if I love her and she loves me and I can tell that she's trying and she doesn't suck dick very well, it's like, well. 0.99

02:28:13.900 She's gonna need an A1 effort. 1.00

02:28:15.440 Yeah, it's like, well, you're not the best at it, but I love you.

02:28:19.260 You love me.

02:28:20.540 That's what matters. 1.00

02:28:21.780 And I think you'll impress me much more by the other things that you're bringing outside of the bedroom than just, oh, can you do the, what's that stupid shit from Call Her Daddy the fucking? 1.00

02:28:34.860 Glock 9000, that bullshit. 1.00

02:28:37.480 I don't get it. 1.00

02:28:37.840 I don't watch that show, but yeah.

02:28:39.820 Yeah.

02:28:40.220 Actually, let's just watch the tape video because he articulates it way better than me.

02:28:44.100 I pretty much almost lifted it from him.

02:28:47.160 But that's how I feel.

02:28:48.760 Like, and I just also, before you pull it up, like I said, it just, it's really, I know what I'm doing in the bedroom.

02:28:55.600 Like, I know how to lead.

02:28:56.640 So, like, a girl could, I could have.

02:29:00.520 Isn't that all that's really necessary?

02:29:01.920 Just a man that knows how to lead and then you just kind of, like, follow?

02:29:04.400 Well, I, here's the thing.

02:29:05.420 You can take control, but yeah.

02:29:06.500 That's the thing.

02:29:07.200 That's the thing.

02:29:07.860 And I think that's kind of one of the reasons why men and women value body count differently. 0.99

02:29:13.140 I could have fantastic sex with a girl who's a virgin. 1.00

02:29:17.020 Most girls are going to look at a guy who's a virgin. 1.00

02:29:19.840 They don't want to touch him. 0.73

02:29:21.040 And, like, the sex is, that's going to be a coin. 1.00

02:29:25.720 Like, that, also, I don't think girls want to teach guys how to fuck them. 1.00

02:29:31.400 That's exactly, you and I are thinking about the exact same clip and that's exactly what I was taking this from. 0.98

02:29:35.680 Now, not to say that I'm not, like, if a girl, I'll ask a girl for, like, some feedback.

02:29:39.860 Is there a certain, you know, certain thing that you prefer, faster, slower, whatever. 0.98

02:29:44.660 But, like, girls really don't want to, like, teach a guy, like, how the fuck I'm like. 0.99

02:29:49.520 So, we don't mind that. 0.99

02:29:50.700 We can marry a virgin and we don't mind teaching them because it will get better with time.

02:29:56.940 But the women are not going to put up with that. 1.00

02:30:00.680 Word?

02:30:02.400 Word?

02:30:04.000 Okay, let's play the clip.

02:30:06.420 It should be the first.

02:30:07.760 Well, it seems a lot of the.

02:30:08.940 Oh, pause that.

02:30:09.860 Yeah.

02:30:10.380 Oh, before you play it, actually, hold on.

02:30:12.920 Yeah, I mean, I basically almost said, not exactly, but I basically echoed what he said.

02:30:19.800 But he's much more articulate than me.

02:30:21.260 So, go ahead. 0.99

02:30:24.000 Sex, sex, this position, that position. 1.00

02:30:27.260 Don't you feel like you get to a point in your life where there's something more than that shit? 1.00

02:30:30.180 Don't you feel like, and maybe I'm going to sound like a romantic. 0.98

02:30:32.600 Don't you feel like you get to a position in your life where you'd rather have a girl you truly love and she truly loves you.

02:30:36.860 And it doesn't matter what she does because you know she really loves you and she's trying her best.

02:30:40.260 Wear those hats.

02:30:41.080 I know she's shaking her head, but I'm serious.

02:30:46.140 I'm serious. 0.99

02:30:46.540 If you sleep with enough women, just like if you sleep with enough men, there's no fucking move. 1.00

02:30:51.440 Sex is not a complicated operation, right? 0.99

02:30:53.720 There's no move that's going to be like, wow, I've never seen this before.

02:30:56.940 You know what, for many, though.

02:30:57.360 I've never seen this before and my mind is blown.

02:30:59.640 No, no. 1.00

02:31:00.120 If you think the way you keep a man happy is to move your pussy in a particular way on top of his dick, 1.00

02:31:05.260 as opposed to behave in a way which is respectful to him out in the real world, 0.99

02:31:09.380 and for him to know he has you and your loyalty, regardless of what's going to come up,

02:31:13.920 all the problems he's going to come into in his life, then you're wrong.

02:31:16.240 So the whole point of sex is a connection between two people,

02:31:19.800 and I think having a genuine connection between two people is worth more than the sex.

02:31:22.960 So her question was, what can a woman do to truly blow your mind in the bedroom? 1.00

02:31:27.300 You blow my mind outside of the bedroom, in a relationship as a whole.

02:31:31.460 That's the truth.

02:31:33.560 Wouldn't you rather have a girlfriend who truly loves you, is absolutely loyal to you,

02:31:37.460 like no matter what happens, she's going to be there for you.

02:31:39.520 You can catch a case six months.

02:31:40.680 She's outside waiting for you. 1.00

02:31:43.360 Okay, she can't take dick, right? 1.00

02:31:45.000 Whatever. 1.00

02:31:45.240 But she tries her very, very best to pour the poor thing,

02:31:48.740 and she wants to satisfy you, and you know she cares about you. 0.99

02:31:53.720 Wouldn't you be like, well, I don't care that she can't take dick, 1.00

02:31:55.820 because that's actually a quality woman, which is rare in the world today. 1.00

02:31:58.800 But I am genuinely uninterested in sleeping with a woman who I don't have a connection with. 0.70

02:32:02.800 If a girl said to me, I don't love you at all, I don't feel anything for you at all,

02:32:06.680 I don't want to sleep with you, but I will, I would say no.

02:32:10.980 The sex act in and of itself is okay. 0.97

02:32:13.940 Have you had sex? 0.95

02:32:15.200 We've all had sex, right? 1.00

02:32:16.160 Do you really need to fuck somebody who doesn't give a shit about you at all? 1.00

02:32:19.180 We live in a world now, right, where we have a lot of narratives which are being broken down and destroyed in real time, 0.99

02:32:23.420 and I think it's very, very healthy for men and women to look at sex as an act that happens between people who at least like each other. 0.99

02:32:31.760 The idea that I don't like them at all, but as long as they can suck dick this way, then it's okay. 1.00

02:32:37.240 I don't give a fuck, right? 1.00

02:32:38.460 If a girl genuinely loves me with all her heart and gives me a fucking terrible blowjob, 1.00

02:32:42.800 I'm still going to be like, well, you love me, I love you, it is what it is. 1.00

02:32:45.860 Life's more important than blowjobs and fucking blow in your nose. 1.00

02:32:48.500 What if it's not love? 1.00

02:32:49.000 This is the truth.

02:32:50.220 And if it's not love, if it's not love, let me tell you something.

02:32:53.520 Women are the gatekeepers, not men. 1.00

02:32:55.520 If it's not love, you shouldn't be fucking him anyway. 0.99

02:32:58.100 This is the reality of the world. 0.99

02:32:59.500 Just because the modern world told you different. 0.99

02:33:01.320 You shouldn't be fucking any man you don't love. 1.00

02:33:02.960 That's the first fucking thing. 1.00

02:33:03.900 You shouldn't be safe with him. 0.99

02:33:05.300 No, but it's true.

02:33:05.960 You're right, you're right.

02:33:06.840 No, no, no, no, because the intus me, whatever you say, intus me, whatever is not there,

02:33:13.360 you will feel it.

02:33:14.240 Intus me.

02:33:15.260 Okay.

02:33:16.240 The intus me.

02:33:17.200 And that's the perfect example because the two women that I'm talking about where there 1.00

02:33:21.880 was a problem, their personalities were the slight problem for me.

02:33:24.780 Physically and visually, they were perfect.

02:33:27.100 So let's just go around the table.

02:33:28.680 I want you guys to give your reaction to that.

02:33:31.620 Go ahead.

02:33:33.100 Yeah, I mean.

02:33:34.300 Straight into the mic.

02:33:35.120 When you asked me, I had a very similar answer where all that matters to me is really being 0.71

02:33:43.160 in love with the person and having a passionate connection before I have sex with them.

02:33:47.120 I won't have sex with someone that I don't have a passionate love connection with.

02:33:52.080 So I agree, I guess.

02:33:53.440 But I don't normally agree with Andy.

02:33:56.440 Yeah, I think he makes a valid point.

02:33:58.380 There's more important things than what happens in the bedroom.

02:34:02.320 I mean, I also agree with it.

02:34:06.180 I think it kind of goes back to what I was saying where it's like if you're with someone

02:34:10.740 and they are listening to you when you're talking about what you need, if they like you, like 1.00

02:34:16.600 he was talking about she sucks, she's terrible at sucking dick, but she loves you so much. 1.00

02:34:23.240 Like she's more likely than someone who's having a one night stand who doesn't give a fuck about you 1.00

02:34:27.000 to listen to what you need and improve and change things. 0.91

02:34:32.520 Yeah, I agree.

02:34:34.080 Connection is more important than good sex.

02:34:37.360 So, you know.

02:34:37.740 Yeah, I mean, I don't like Andrew Tate in general, but I will say that clip you did say I didn't

02:34:47.560 hate him as much as usual.

02:34:49.680 Wholesome Andrew Tate.

02:34:51.460 Yeah.

02:34:52.300 So I do agree.

02:34:53.220 I think there are more things outside the bedroom.

02:34:56.720 And I do think, you know, when you do have chemistry, I do think the sex is better as well.

02:35:00.880 And so like when you do love someone, I think the sex is going to be better.

02:35:03.940 Yeah.

02:35:04.980 I agree.

02:35:06.280 I think intimacy and connection happens before the bedroom.

02:35:09.680 And I've always said that.

02:35:10.840 My mom has a funny quote that she always has said since I was young.

02:35:13.780 It's like, let them see your heart before anything else.

02:35:17.280 See, I just want to ask the question. 0.98

02:35:20.180 I feel like there are some of you that said if you didn't get fucked right after a while, 0.98

02:35:24.880 you'd be checking out. 0.96

02:35:26.560 Who's going back on their word after that clip?

02:35:31.040 Somebody did, right?

02:35:32.500 No.

02:35:33.080 Are we sure? 0.99

02:35:34.320 I'm pretty sure somebody at this table earlier said if they didn't get fucked. 0.99

02:35:39.420 No, that was me 100%. 0.99

02:35:41.120 So.

02:35:42.160 But I still agree with the clip.

02:35:44.500 I think that after a period of time, if the man is not able to figure it out, you know,

02:35:51.500 and please you the correct way, get you to orgasm, 0.93

02:35:54.400 I don't think there's a point in continuing on to marriage with him because you're not going to be happy. 1.00

02:35:59.540 Even if you love him with all your heart, but he just can't fuck you, right? 0.99

02:36:02.260 I don't think that would ever happen, honestly. 0.98

02:36:05.480 And at least for me, when I fall in love with someone, it's a very like whole thing.

02:36:10.520 And it's like sexuality is a part of it and, you know, intimacy, intellect, all of that makes the whole.

02:36:17.900 So I wouldn't necessarily be able to fall in love with someone I wasn't at least very sexually attracted to.

02:36:23.540 What if the man is a virgin, would you be willing to put in the time to you teach him what you like as long as it takes?

02:36:30.840 Yes.

02:36:31.320 Oh, yeah. 1.00

02:36:31.800 If he's learning and picking up fast, fuck, yeah. 0.99

02:36:34.200 What if he's not picking up fast? 1.00

02:36:35.700 What if it's slow?

02:36:36.980 Oh, yeah.

02:36:37.380 As long as he's getting it and like we're making progress and I love this person, yes, let's go.

02:36:43.360 We'll work on it together.

02:36:45.780 As long as God, if I can find a partner, sorry, if I can find a partner that's going to work together with me to solve problems, to communicate on things, that's what I want for everything.

02:36:55.440 Okay, let me, we got to move on to some super chats.

02:36:58.440 Eric, did you start this one from Zentience, the $99 one?

02:37:01.740 Yep.

02:37:02.880 You start it?

02:37:03.740 Yep.

02:37:05.100 Is it, did it just come in?

02:37:07.500 Cats.

02:37:09.100 Oh, oh, is that an old one?

02:37:11.380 Yep.

02:37:11.540 Oh, okay, got it.

02:37:13.180 Okay, hold on.

02:37:14.360 Let me see where we are here.

02:37:19.100 Sorry, guys, I'm getting, I lost my place on the super chats.

02:37:25.840 Yeah.

02:37:27.800 What's up?

02:37:29.560 Eric, what's up?

02:37:31.160 Oh, thank you.

02:37:32.820 Sam Gigolo, thank you for the Prime and the Follow.

02:37:38.060 Seed, thank you for the Follow.

02:37:39.320 Obi-Wan, thank you for the Follow.

02:37:40.420 Hello, Spartan, thank you for the Follow.

02:37:41.720 Get off my lawn.

02:37:42.480 Thank you for the Prime, man.

02:37:43.280 Really appreciate the support, guys.

02:37:44.840 All right, bring it on back.

02:37:47.800 Did we, we did this one?

02:37:51.320 Did we do this one?

02:37:52.200 Yeah, we did that one.

02:37:53.060 Did we do this one?

02:37:55.140 No.

02:37:55.840 Okay.

02:37:56.200 The fact is all men want girls that not just any man can have, but average men have enough

02:38:01.340 trouble finding women and can't force that preference.

02:38:04.780 High value men can because 50% of women are all going for a top 20% of all men. 0.99

02:38:11.880 Yeah, that's a good point, Shane.

02:38:12.900 I mean, a lot of men, I'd say most average men really can't, what's the term for it?

02:38:21.440 They really can't act on their preferences.

02:38:26.240 So either they just get rid of the preference or, I don't know.

02:38:31.660 Yeah, so, but that's why, you know, this is why I think it's kind of cope in like the

02:38:40.840 red pill or whatever, when like the wall, this idea of the wall, like there's going

02:38:46.100 to be a simp to pick up the mess afterwards. 0.98

02:38:50.440 So there's going to be a guy who's going to tolerate the fucking past promiscuity, three 0.98

02:38:56.980 kids from three different baby daddies, there's going to be some simp who's going to pick 0.99

02:39:02.040 up the pieces.

02:39:03.000 So I think it's kind of cope for a lot of us men to think, oh, you know, she's messing

02:39:08.220 up in her youth and then, nah, there's going to be some guy to pick up the pieces.

02:39:12.900 Okay.

02:39:13.240 So, um, yo, we have Gus with the $20 soup chat, uh, past body count matter because your

02:39:18.240 ability to pair bond diminishes.

02:39:19.740 We don't want to walk into room knowing my friend's fam might have seen or heard of your

02:39:24.520 promiscuity.

02:39:25.220 We're not the same.

02:39:26.780 Yeah.

02:39:26.940 It's also, it's definitely body count is a reputational thing.

02:39:29.460 If you've like slept with an entire guy's friend group, it's just like awkward.

02:39:33.580 It's uncomfortable.

02:39:34.940 Um, Will Smith is a perfect example.

02:39:37.620 Are you talking about Jada Pinkett?

02:39:39.240 Yeah.

02:39:40.060 Um, I mean the whole pair bonding thing too is as you continue to having more and more sexual

02:39:46.720 partners, you start de-linking intimacy from sex.

02:39:50.360 Your ability to bond with somebody is diminished.

02:39:53.740 Like you're going to the moment, like a difficult moment in a relationship comes up, you know

02:40:01.660 what?

02:40:01.900 A new guy can solve it.

02:40:05.880 I'm out.

02:40:06.600 I'm just going to go get, find a new guy.

02:40:09.240 Difficulty in a relationship arises.

02:40:11.720 I'm done.

02:40:12.520 I'm just, I'm out.

02:40:13.420 So, whereas someone who's, has a lower body count is much more likely to stick it out

02:40:18.940 through a difficult period in a relationship.

02:40:21.600 All right.

02:40:21.820 We have, uh, M Martin with the $50 soup chat.

02:40:23.900 We are in trouble as society.

02:40:24.860 Marriage rates, birth rates, lower than ever in history.

02:40:27.460 Divorce, antidepressants, anxiety meds, higher than ever before in history.

02:40:30.940 Most unhappy demographic of human, single career woman with no husband or children, late 30s. 1.00

02:40:38.420 Uh, yeah, the West, I think is, uh, definitely in trouble.

02:40:43.600 Um, I think when you kind of deregulate the sexual marketplace that, I mean, I don't know.

02:40:52.160 I think society functions best when you have the nuclear family, people stay together, there's 0.95

02:40:58.260 monogamy, but I mean, the West is, uh, the West is a failed society.

02:41:04.760 Okay, we have, uh, I'm Onifro with the Canadian $20 soup chat.

02:41:08.900 Wait, so philosophically, is she saying that romance isn't about emotion commitment?

02:41:13.400 And by the way, it's failed, it's catastrophic for both men and women.

02:41:17.660 It's just a mess.

02:41:19.260 Um, isn't about emotion commitment, but about transactions.

02:41:22.560 Hypergamy is a hell of a drug and the mentality like that just chases the dragon. 0.76

02:41:29.000 Is she saying that romance isn't about, by the way, so I want to apologize guys that

02:41:33.040 it took us a while to get to the soup chats, but so this is maybe like from 45 minutes

02:41:37.700 ago or something, but, um, thank you, Onifro, appreciate it.

02:41:41.460 Lukewarm with the $20 soup chat.

02:41:42.660 Thank you, man.

02:41:43.040 Ask the girls to rate their looks one to 10, then intellect one to 10. 0.89

02:41:47.060 Interestingly, I found the order in which you ask these questions influences the answer.

02:41:52.900 Yeah, we can go around the table on this really quick.

02:41:54.500 Uh, please rate your appearance, uh, looks one to 10 and then your, I guess your intellect

02:41:59.580 one to 10.

02:42:00.080 I think that one's a bit more challenging, but go ahead.

02:42:02.800 Uh, looks like seven and a half, um, and intellect, I'd say eight and a half or nine.

02:42:09.340 Okay.

02:42:10.840 Say like six and a half and intellect's probably like eight.

02:42:16.540 Uh, probably seven for looks and then eight or nine for intellect.

02:42:21.340 Yeah, I would say seven for looks, eight or nine for intellect.

02:42:23.940 What did you do for looks again?

02:42:25.380 Six and a half.

02:42:27.040 Okay.

02:42:27.560 Girl, you were on that six and a half. 0.51

02:42:28.520 What?

02:42:29.040 It should be higher.

02:42:30.000 I, I, I, I would say eight.

02:42:31.900 Normally we get girls in here saying that they're tens when they're not. 1.00

02:42:35.640 I'm going to give you higher.

02:42:37.060 I won't say a number, but I definitely think you're more than a six and a half.

02:42:40.160 Definitely.

02:42:40.680 Go ahead.

02:42:41.540 Um, I would say I'm like an eight and a half, nine looks wise.

02:42:44.860 Um, intelligence.

02:42:45.940 I would say I'm around a nine.

02:42:47.580 Wait, repeat the looks one.

02:42:49.200 Eight and a half, nine.

02:42:50.180 Okay.

02:42:50.440 I would honestly say the same.

02:42:53.120 I, I consider myself to be an eight, eight and a half and my intellect anywhere from a nine

02:42:56.420 to ten.

02:42:58.600 Uh, oh, that was just, I guess he just wanted the girls, um, to rate themselves.

02:43:02.600 Uh, kid, do you, we can do it too.

02:43:04.960 Why not? 0.97

02:43:05.500 I mean, I say I get, I get shit on my, from my good girlfriends that I, I say I'm a nine 0.97

02:43:11.100 and they say you're, you should be viewing yourself as a 10. 0.97

02:43:14.740 And I don't like to say that 10 because 10 implies perfection.

02:43:18.780 So I don't like calling it 10, but they say.

02:43:22.240 I give myself a six, 6.9 on a good day.

02:43:26.080 Okay.

02:43:26.480 Um, and then the intellect.

02:43:28.300 Oh, intellect.

02:43:30.780 Oh, intellect.

02:43:31.760 7.5 for me.

02:43:33.140 Maybe.

02:43:33.460 I don't know.

02:43:34.020 I don't think, I don't think one should try to rate their intellect.

02:43:37.580 I think there's, I think that there's a lot of, there's a lot of nuanced intellect too.

02:43:42.080 So I think trying to rate your intellect would,

02:43:44.380 make the, it's funny, the ones that would say their intellect is higher are actually 1.00

02:43:48.200 probably stupider, dumber than the most. 1.00

02:43:50.420 Yeah, definitely. 1.00

02:43:51.540 Would you say the same about taking an IQ test?

02:43:54.780 Like taking an IQ test?

02:43:56.120 You know, you take an IQ test and you get a high result.

02:43:58.440 Well, that's based on your test results versus your opinion.

02:44:00.740 Right.

02:44:00.760 So if somebody gets a high IQ test and they say, I have highly intellect, like, right?

02:44:07.580 It doesn't necessarily mean the answer.

02:44:08.940 Well, if they can verify it.

02:44:10.320 Right.

02:44:10.880 If I bring it and verify it.

02:44:13.020 Yes, we need it, we need it authorized.

02:44:15.960 Okay.

02:44:16.200 I forgot.

02:44:17.140 Yo.

02:44:17.280 The men need documents now.

02:44:18.840 Frankie K, thank you for the $20 soup chat.

02:44:20.480 In the annals of human history, there has never been a single woman who was celebrated

02:44:25.000 for her promiscuity. 0.99

02:44:26.640 Conversely, the kings and conquerors of history have had a multitude of mistresses and offspring.

02:44:32.160 Men and women are different.

02:44:33.320 Here's another reason why body count matters.

02:44:36.680 So it's, hold on.

02:44:39.900 Let me just put this away.

02:44:42.000 Thank you there.

02:44:42.700 Thank you, Frankie, though, for the big $20 soup chat.

02:44:45.980 So it's a natural biological response for men.

02:44:48.960 Here's the example I like to give and why men have this sort of evolutionary biological almost

02:44:57.940 repulsion discussed when there's a, when it comes, sorry, I'm getting tongue-tied here,

02:45:04.900 for wanting to not date a promiscuous woman.

02:45:09.640 Sorry, I totally butchered this, guys.

02:45:11.500 Getting tongue-tied here.

02:45:12.440 French is my first language.

02:45:14.020 English is my second language.

02:45:15.160 ESL student over here.

02:45:16.020 Give me a break, guys.

02:45:17.060 Okay, so if a woman has 10 husbands and she's sleeping with all of them, who's the father? 0.83

02:45:24.900 Whereas if a man has 10 wives, who's the father? 0.90

02:45:30.060 So you know, you know who the father is.

02:45:33.280 It's a slippery slope because then it's just like, yeah, but also women couldn't vote many 1.00

02:45:37.580 years ago and all this stuff has changed, like so much has changed.

02:45:41.040 I'm not really sure.

02:45:42.320 The paternity is still the issue.

02:45:43.560 So, okay, I think in the 80s is when we got DNA testing.

02:45:49.600 So if a woman has 10 husbands and they're all, she's sleeping with all of them. 1.00

02:45:55.680 Sure.

02:45:56.240 Before 40 years ago, there's no way to know who the father is.

02:46:01.620 And you're, what's your argument?

02:46:03.460 Well, and so, whereas for a guy, if he has 10 wives, each of those women know that she's 1.00

02:46:11.140 the mother and they know who the father is, so for men, there's a paternity uncertainty 0.90

02:46:16.260 and that's a, it's a big fucking L to think that the kid is yours and it's not. 0.95

02:46:25.020 Perfect example. 0.98

02:46:26.200 I was just watching one of those Facebook court videos of you are not the father.

02:46:29.720 This woman had three men there and not a single one of them was the father.

02:46:35.760 Okay.

02:46:36.380 It was embarrassing for her.

02:46:37.600 It was embarrassing for all of them.

02:46:39.060 Sounds like it.

02:46:39.460 Yeah.

02:46:39.580 Not only are you. 0.99

02:46:40.660 Sounds like a crappy person, but like these are just like such cherry picked situation. 0.99

02:46:44.780 No. 0.92

02:46:45.140 In my day to day life.

02:46:45.960 It's not cherry picked.

02:46:46.860 Okay.

02:46:47.260 Well, I think also the woman's the one carrying the baby for nine months. 0.99

02:46:51.200 But that's, that's irrelevant.

02:46:53.300 This is a real evolutionary fear.

02:46:56.300 Think of, okay, do you guys know fight or flight response?

02:46:58.400 Anxiety.

02:46:59.000 Of course.

02:46:59.500 Like why, if we realize if there's not a threat, right, that if we're not getting chased

02:47:04.940 by a tiger, why do some people have panic attacks?

02:47:07.740 Because that, that's a fight or flight response, but there's something misfiring there.

02:47:12.840 So in the same way that that is sort of an outdated thing and people have these anxiety

02:47:17.780 disorders, what, there's no benefit to having panic attacks.

02:47:20.860 Right.

02:47:21.080 But people have them.

02:47:21.960 So it's the same thing with that.

02:47:24.180 Like it is something in our gut. 0.99

02:47:26.340 Like if we, if we know that a girl is promiscuous, it's like somewhere in our fucking reptilian 1.00

02:47:32.200 lizard brain or some shit. 1.00

02:47:33.680 It's like, I don't know if I, if she's, if her kid. 0.99

02:47:36.840 Right.

02:47:37.020 Just like if I feel a man can't provide for me, I'm scared.

02:47:40.180 Exactly.

02:47:40.820 Right.

02:47:41.020 Like if a man can't, that is an evolutionary. 0.90

02:47:42.960 Yeah.

02:47:43.220 It's evolutionary.

02:47:44.160 However, we are developed.

02:47:46.720 No, it's not evolutionary at all.

02:47:48.600 Then how would you disagree with that?

02:47:50.660 Sure.

02:47:51.040 Based on society and like the tradition that has been upheld by society, I could see how

02:47:58.760 women would want men for, to provide for them in the past, but evolutionarily, like biologically, 1.00

02:48:06.100 it's no, like you're providing for yourself.

02:48:09.640 You're fending for your own survival. 0.94

02:48:11.480 And you're so, those women in the stone ages were supposed to go out and kill their own 1.00

02:48:14.400 animals and wait, feed themselves. 0.52

02:48:17.780 It is evolutionarily and biologically, but it doesn't mean, I get what you're saying though.

02:48:21.920 We have developed as a society past that point.

02:48:24.900 We no longer have to succumb to these evolutionary urges.

02:48:29.120 We are developed civilized people who can look past those urges.

02:48:33.800 So, so let me ask you a question.

02:48:35.360 Why is it that women are attracted to tall, muscular men?

02:48:39.200 Some women, not me. 1.00

02:48:41.200 Like, it's just like, why?

02:48:44.120 If you line up a hundred.

02:48:46.180 Right, the exception doesn't make a rule, but that doesn't make a rule either.

02:48:49.140 If you line up a hundred women, how many of them are going to prefer a guy who's tall 1.00

02:48:55.400 and physically strong? 1.00

02:48:57.040 How many men are going to prefer a girl that's fit and has tits and ass? 1.00

02:49:01.720 It's the same fucking thing. 1.00

02:49:04.280 Women who have big birthing hips and nice tits for their children evolutionarily are hotter 1.00

02:49:09.780 to men. 0.99

02:49:10.780 Men who are tall, broad shoulders.

02:49:13.020 You're proving my point.

02:49:13.520 No, I'm not.

02:49:14.220 That's literally the point, but we've developed past that.

02:49:17.800 We are now. 0.99

02:49:18.300 We still, but you just said that men are attracted to women with big tits and wide hips. 1.00

02:49:23.060 Right, and women are attracted to men who are taller. 0.87

02:49:25.920 For evolutionary reasons.

02:49:27.720 We're going after evolutionary mother instincts.

02:49:31.920 So you're proving me.

02:49:33.240 The same point.

02:49:34.240 I'm making the same point.

02:49:35.760 I'm just saying we have developed past that now as a society.

02:49:39.780 We have made, we have decided that we are on the same mental level so we can now choose.

02:49:48.400 Women can now choose their partners just as men can choose their partners. 0.55

02:49:52.060 Where before that was not possible.

02:49:53.880 Women did not have the capability to have their own finances to take care of themselves. 1.00

02:49:59.440 They needed a man to provide. 0.97

02:50:00.520 You got to speak into the microphone.

02:50:01.440 They needed a man to provide in order to survive back in the 50s and 60s.

02:50:06.180 You would be homeless.

02:50:07.680 You would be destitute or sent to a sanitarium if you didn't have a husband, if you didn't succeed in birthing and stuff back then.

02:50:16.180 Now it is different.

02:50:17.300 We have jobs.

02:50:18.280 We succeed in careers.

02:50:19.760 We are able to vote.

02:50:21.220 I know the chat hates when I bring that up, but it's real.

02:50:24.040 We have developed past that point of being in that evolutionarily driven stage.

02:50:33.380 And as society develops, we get further and further away from it.

02:50:37.020 And as we become more civilized, we become more able to communicate on an even level and understand each other better.

02:50:44.040 So I think these conversations are really beneficial, but you have to see from the other side sometimes.

02:50:49.280 So we are not, both men and women are not necessarily handcuffed to their base biological drives and urges.

02:51:00.160 I agree with you, but it does not undo their influence and their existence.

02:51:06.140 And it happens to be the case.

02:51:07.780 Like you ask most women, they want to date a guy that is taller than them. 0.98

02:51:13.280 Why?

02:51:13.600 Most women, where? 1.00

02:51:14.540 Is this a surprising statement that most women are attracted to tall men?

02:51:20.940 Most men want to date a girl that is shorter than them. 0.87

02:51:22.860 Okay, same statistic.

02:51:23.640 Well, I think men care far less about height than women do, but what do you? 0.96

02:51:28.520 It's the same thing is all I'm arguing.

02:51:30.580 We've developed to a point in society where we each have preferences.

02:51:34.680 Guys prefer women to have less experience. 0.90

02:51:37.080 Women prefer men to be motivated and have future goals and all this stuff. 1.00

02:51:41.140 We all have preferences.

02:51:42.060 We all have things we want, and it's not fair to say, to be like, this is a high-value person,

02:51:48.380 this is a low-value person, because everybody has different sliding scales on how they're

02:51:52.680 behaving, their morality, everything.

02:51:54.900 So these conversations, although they're very fun to have on podcasts and stuff, it's just

02:51:58.960 like it doesn't really get into the deeper philosophical issue.

02:52:02.860 I'm not really sure what you are arguing, but we were talking about paternity and men's paternity

02:52:14.600 uncertainty.

02:52:16.080 So let me ask you guys a question, though, so I can maybe try to emphasize why this is

02:52:20.820 a big deal for men and why it plays into the reasons for why men care about body count.

02:52:25.260 Now, what are our, if you had to say, what are like our two main, two or three main base

02:52:32.060 biological drives and urges?

02:52:34.620 I'd like to open up the table.

02:52:36.040 What do you guys all think?

02:52:38.100 Repeat the question.

02:52:39.140 For women.

02:52:39.480 What are the base biological drives and urges?

02:52:44.300 For males or females?

02:52:45.520 Okay, I'll just, maybe this is a hypothetical, this is hypothetical.

02:52:49.220 Survival and reproduction, those are the two base things for humans and frankly, for all

02:52:56.960 species on this planet.

02:52:58.960 So if a woman's promiscuous, if she has a high body count, it is an evolutionary thing 1.00

02:53:06.620 that's tied to paternity uncertainty.

02:53:09.740 So if you lie to your husband, if you cheated on him and you lie to him, or you're just promiscuous,

02:53:21.620 you're sleeping with a bunch of dudes, you get pregnant, you are essentially potentially 0.93

02:53:26.740 depriving that man of his opportunity to reproduce.

02:53:31.540 Okay, how often is this happening and why is it an issue?

02:53:33.980 It happens a lot more than you think.

02:53:35.720 I don't know the exact stats, maybe Eric can pull it up, but there's a, it's like in

02:53:40.740 the, it's in the double digit percentages that men are raising children that they think

02:53:47.720 are theirs that are not.

02:53:49.900 It's astoundingly high, astoundingly high.

02:53:53.480 I mean, I just gave you an example of the court case.

02:53:54.740 I have never in my personal life met a man raising a child that isn't his or even raising

02:53:59.360 a child.

02:53:59.740 I've met a lot of single mothers. 1.00

02:54:01.360 It's just my personal experience.

02:54:02.620 Well, I mean, the women are either lying or... 1.00

02:54:05.360 You've never seen one of those videos where he finds out he's not the father and he starts

02:54:09.580 crying or something.

02:54:10.880 None of you have ever seen those?

02:54:11.680 Of course I've seen those videos.

02:54:12.540 Okay, so that's a perfect example.

02:54:13.780 But that's also entertainment.

02:54:15.880 That's not entertainment.

02:54:17.020 That's somebody's life.

02:54:17.640 The whole show, Maury, is based on who's the father.

02:54:20.060 Well, this is a court case.

02:54:20.500 Like, you are cherry picking.

02:54:22.000 A hundred percent.

02:54:22.940 It's not cherry picking.

02:54:23.380 No, no, no.

02:54:23.740 But the point I'm trying to make is...

02:54:25.600 I feel like we're talking too much, though.

02:54:26.900 I'd really love for other people to chime in.

02:54:28.760 Okay, let me just address the cherry picking thing.

02:54:30.520 So, you claim it to be cherry picking.

02:54:33.120 Does it happen to a majority of men?

02:54:36.240 No.

02:54:36.820 Does it happen to a minority of men?

02:54:38.740 Yes.

02:54:39.280 How many single mothers are there? 1.00

02:54:41.540 Hold on.

02:54:44.400 These numbers suggest that the widely quoted figure of 10% is...

02:54:48.260 Unsubstantiated figure.

02:54:49.980 However, in studies that solely looked at couples who obtained paternity testing because paternity

02:54:56.080 was being disputed, there are higher levels and incidents of 17% to 33%.

02:55:01.420 Look, in any case...

02:55:03.720 I mean, that solely looked at couples where paternity was being...

02:55:06.360 Okay, yes.

02:55:06.720 This is cherry picking.

02:55:07.760 Yes, but at the same time, there's something called the law of small numbers.

02:55:10.920 Hold on.

02:55:11.380 Hold on.

02:55:11.680 Hold on.

02:55:12.000 The point I'm trying to make is...

02:55:13.680 Even if it happens to a minority of men, that doesn't mean that the risk or the fear doesn't

02:55:24.340 exist.

02:55:25.900 And it doesn't mean that...

02:55:28.080 Okay.

02:55:28.920 We have risks and fears, too.

02:55:31.040 Of course, but... 0.99

02:55:32.000 We can be raped. 1.00

02:55:33.460 That's right. 0.97

02:55:34.380 There's a lot of risks and fears for women. 1.00

02:55:35.400 That's right, and women are totally reasonable to take precautions when dealing with men in 1.00

02:55:41.800 the same way that men should take precautions when dealing with women and having legitimate 0.66

02:55:47.740 fears about potentially having children with someone and that being a paternity fraud situation

02:55:55.340 where you have just poured your heart, your resources, and potentially...

02:56:00.440 Yes, that's an awful, awful situation, and I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy.

02:56:04.200 It is absolutely horrible.

02:56:05.600 But you guys can't relate because it's impossible for that to happen to women. 0.74

02:56:10.140 But you know what's possible to happen to me?

02:56:11.920 It's possible for the government to force me to have a child I don't want, even though 0.98

02:56:16.280 if I'm raped. 0.99

02:56:16.960 You live in California, so no. 0.97

02:56:17.640 If I'm in a different state, dude, it doesn't matter.

02:56:20.020 Let me just put into perspective what women are actually having to deal with. 1.00

02:56:24.020 That's a completely different conversation if you want to derail it.

02:56:27.420 It's about children.

02:56:27.940 It's about babies.

02:56:29.720 You're talking about paternity, raising a child. 0.78

02:56:32.260 You're derailing the conversation.

02:56:33.480 We're talking about paternity fraud.

02:56:35.760 We can have a conversation about abortion, but...

02:56:38.100 I'm just going to open up the table because I feel like I'm talking a lot, and I feel

02:56:41.500 like there's other opinions that should be there.

02:56:42.720 Well, it's a good time to say that because I need to go back to the Super Chats here.

02:56:46.380 So, all right.

02:56:47.380 Nobody else wants to comment on that?

02:56:48.940 I mean, I can open it up if anyone does.

02:56:51.200 I have a question.

02:56:51.840 Sure.

02:56:51.980 Are you genuinely, like, scared of that happening in your life?

02:56:55.000 Like, if that's a genuine fear that you have?

02:56:56.400 Oh, absolutely.

02:56:57.120 A hundred percent.

02:56:58.220 Absolutely.

02:56:58.540 See, women can't empathize with... 1.00

02:57:00.360 You guys are laughing right now at something that absolutely fucking crushes men. 1.00

02:57:05.080 No, it's horrible. 1.00

02:57:05.440 I would never dare to laugh at, for example, a woman getting raped. 0.90

02:57:08.980 I would never...

02:57:09.680 And look, I know they're different, but I would never laugh at something that hurts women

02:57:15.680 on such a deep level, and for you guys to laugh about paternity fraud is shocking. 0.99

02:57:20.280 But my reaction was, that's fucking horrible. 0.98

02:57:21.500 I can't believe that happens. 0.99

02:57:22.120 There's not much else I can hurt a man deeper than that.

02:57:23.560 I don't understand.

02:57:24.100 That is one of the worst...

02:57:24.880 Yeah, it's just an honorable thing to happen, but what are the chances?

02:57:28.200 It's higher than you think.

02:57:29.320 The chances of any of us getting sexually assaulted is through the roof compared to that.

02:57:32.140 Is one in three.

02:57:33.380 One in three.

02:57:35.520 Okay, we can play a comparison of victimhood.

02:57:39.340 We can do a comparison.

02:57:40.040 But you're bringing up male victimhood this whole time, and yes, there are male issues.

02:57:43.480 No, but...

02:57:44.040 No, no, no, no, no.

02:57:44.680 Hold on.

02:57:45.300 Stop.

02:57:45.680 In high numbers, it's horrible, but you can't compare male victimhood and not allow us to

02:57:51.040 speak on our issues.

02:57:52.220 No, no, no, no, no, but we were speaking about a very specific thing.

02:57:55.280 I wasn't saying, because of this one thing, that men have it worse than women.

02:58:01.420 That's not what I was saying.

02:58:02.400 I'm perfectly prepared to make that argument, however, but by bringing up its whataboutism, 0.98

02:58:10.440 if I'm talking about something that affects men, you can't just say, well, women get raped. 0.99

02:58:15.060 Okay, my reaction... 0.97

02:58:16.060 Yes, they do, but that's irrelevant to the conversation.

02:58:18.760 Okay, my reaction to the paternity thing is that it's absolutely horrible.

02:58:23.220 I can't believe the statistic is that high.

02:58:25.880 The women that are doing that are terrible people and should face the consequences of that, and 1.00

02:58:32.360 the males who are raising the children should know, and there should be paternity tests at

02:58:38.860 every birth, and it should be figured out.

02:58:41.560 However, it's not like a gotcha.

02:58:45.560 It's not like something that makes it okay to say that a woman's body count is the most

02:58:51.360 important thing.

02:58:52.380 It's just not because...

02:58:53.680 That's not what I'm arguing.

02:58:55.000 I'm giving you one of many reasons as to why men care about body count.

02:58:59.760 I've given you some reasons that men can intellectualize.

02:59:02.980 I've given you a variety of reasons.

02:59:05.120 We didn't even talk about STD risk.

02:59:07.080 The more partners you've had, the more likelihood you are to have an STD.

02:59:11.080 But that's a risk you're taking.

02:59:12.080 Are you so quickly to...

02:59:13.560 I guarantee you, I don't know if any of you have herpes, but if you were to get herpes,

02:59:18.460 I doubt you would be so quick to defend promiscuity and having a high body count.

02:59:23.540 I guarantee you that.

02:59:24.440 But I don't defend it.

02:59:25.480 I don't think it's good to be promiscuous or have a high body count.

02:59:27.160 Then what are we arguing about?

02:59:29.900 What do you mean?

02:59:30.720 I'm arguing...

02:59:31.080 I was talking about paternity fraud because it's related to why men care about body count 0.92

02:59:36.460 more than women. 0.96

02:59:38.240 Because women don't have this fear of being victims of paternity fraud. 1.00

02:59:42.560 You think that's...

02:59:43.360 Okay.

02:59:43.900 I just disagree.

02:59:44.200 It is.

02:59:44.780 It's evolutionary.

02:59:46.320 And it's also another reason why a man would rather end up with a virgin wife than somebody

02:59:52.440 who's been promiscuous.

02:59:53.640 Because you will never have to worry about if that child is yours.

02:59:56.920 But you have paternity tests now.

02:59:58.640 So it's very easy to...

02:59:59.640 Okay.

02:59:59.820 There's so many men that raise children 10 years old and they don't ever take a paternity

03:00:04.400 test.

03:00:04.660 Okay.

03:00:04.920 On the paternity test thing, because of modern science, an invention of modern science does

03:00:12.760 not undo hundreds of thousands of years of evolution.

03:00:16.780 Sure.

03:00:17.380 I agree with that.

03:00:18.180 I argued that for you when I made that.

03:00:20.620 Right.

03:00:20.880 But just because there's paternity tests, it doesn't undo the fear.

03:00:25.400 Yes.

03:00:25.720 You can have the fear just like we have a deep fear walking outside of being raped.

03:00:29.600 That was the only thing that I compared it to, the fear.

03:00:32.500 We both have fear of our sexes.

03:00:34.440 It's a wrong comparison to make.

03:00:35.300 It's the wrong comparison to make.

03:00:36.580 I think that's the argument.

03:00:36.980 How?

03:00:37.020 They're both about children.

03:00:39.080 Well, just because they have children involved doesn't mean...

03:00:40.840 No, but we're talking...

03:00:40.940 I'm relating it to body count.

03:00:43.300 This all came up because I was giving you reasons why body count matters.

03:00:46.660 Okay. 0.93

03:00:46.780 Wouldn't you be a little bit worried if they were a liar and a cheater? 0.99

03:00:51.580 Like, more so than their body count? 0.98

03:00:54.180 Okay.

03:00:54.660 But I feel like we talked about that, but...

03:00:56.220 Yeah, we...

03:00:56.860 I would...

03:01:01.520 I mean, I'm sort of failing to see you.

03:01:03.920 Because y'all already said you preferred the cheating girl with a body count of six. 1.00

03:01:08.000 I never...

03:01:08.640 I didn't say that.

03:01:09.880 Over the girl with a body count of 20. 0.85

03:01:11.960 I will back that up.

03:01:12.780 I'll back it up.

03:01:13.620 There's still a lower chance...

03:01:15.060 Well, we already had that conversation, so...

03:01:17.840 There's still a lower chance of that woman with six who's cheated on some past exes. 1.00

03:01:22.640 There's still a lower chance that they will have a paternity issue than a woman who's been with 30 men.

03:01:27.920 There's still a lower chance.

03:01:30.520 If anything, I feel like it's the opposite.

03:01:32.520 If you're sleeping with, like...

03:01:33.980 Like, my body count's, like, 18. 0.96

03:01:36.040 I'm not having, like, 18 men's sperm inside me waiting just at any moment to come out.

03:01:44.260 Like, a couple years ago, like, six, seven years ago, I went on, like, a, like, whole phase.

03:01:50.180 And then I was in a monogamous relationship.

03:01:52.960 Eric, can you lower the volume to 70?

03:01:54.600 Um, and, like, me, as a person who isn't cheating, who has a higher number,

03:02:03.020 I think that it would say more about how that person is currently, like, dating and having sex

03:02:09.180 than about, like, their past.

03:02:12.220 Like, if I slept with a certain number of people,

03:02:15.320 that's not gonna affect whether or not I'm gonna cheat on you with another dude and have their baby. 1.00

03:02:19.840 I think those are completely separate things.

03:02:21.620 Yeah, they're completely different.

03:02:22.500 And the girl that cheats on, and cheats and sleeps with other husbands, 0.97

03:02:26.040 she's more likely to give you the wrong child 1.00

03:02:28.760 than somebody who, in their past, had a whole phase and is now dedicated to you.

03:02:32.740 You see the difference?

03:02:33.820 It's circumstantial.

03:02:34.780 But giving us these hypothetical scenarios where there's this girl who's a cheater... 0.95

03:02:38.500 That's exactly what you're doing.

03:02:40.520 No.

03:02:41.140 Giving us a hypothetical situation where there's 30 babies for one man?

03:02:46.880 No, but I...

03:02:48.460 Please.

03:02:49.000 That's not a hypothetical situation.

03:02:54.400 It's just...

03:02:54.760 Look up the definition of hypothetical.

03:02:56.800 I'm just kidding.

03:02:57.640 No, but you've brought it back to,

03:03:00.100 well, shouldn't you care less about body count?

03:03:02.240 Aren't there other things that you can care about, too?

03:03:05.200 Yes.

03:03:05.880 But just because we care about one thing doesn't mean we don't care about other things also.

03:03:10.680 It's just that you prioritize it so much.

03:03:15.020 Like, body count has been the entire conversation.

03:03:18.120 And it's just like, why not talk about all the other things that men and women have to bring to the table and discuss them?

03:03:23.980 I'm happy to talk about other stuff.

03:03:26.000 Okay.

03:03:26.200 I want to get to the Super Chats here. 0.98

03:03:29.080 Cool.

03:03:29.660 All right.

03:03:30.080 So, let's see.

03:03:34.380 Beaten Cheeks, thank you for the $20 Super Chat.

03:03:36.580 I'm 5'8", 161 pounds, disease-free, successful, own a cabin on Gold Lake and Leech Lake, Minnesota.

03:03:42.980 Are you interested in...

03:03:44.100 Can you do, like, a proper Minnesota accent?

03:03:47.480 Minnesota?

03:03:48.740 Not really.

03:03:49.600 It's really hard for me.

03:03:50.480 Does it come out when you're liquored up?

03:03:51.960 Um, I actually get a Southern accent when I...

03:03:54.260 Oh, that's...

03:03:54.940 That's even better.

03:03:56.840 That's peculiar.

03:03:57.680 Okay.

03:03:58.120 Yeah.

03:03:58.720 Uh, Gareth Pickford, thank you for the Australian $30, man.

03:04:02.260 Thank you.

03:04:02.720 From Down Under.

03:04:03.820 G'day. 0.97

03:04:04.340 Would...

03:04:04.820 I can't do an Australian. 1.00

03:04:06.220 Would girls be offended on first date if you guys asked you a series of direct questions?

03:04:11.940 As men, we have most to lose today in...

03:04:15.040 Oh, God.

03:04:16.280 I'm butchering.

03:04:16.520 In the world of marriage, are you a feminist? 1.00

03:04:19.620 Would you vote for...

03:04:21.920 Oh, jeez.

03:04:22.480 Okay.

03:04:22.720 I'm sorry, guys.

03:04:23.880 Do you want kids?

03:04:24.800 Will you be involved in the children's lives?

03:04:28.000 G...

03:04:28.240 Bruv.

03:04:28.860 You're asking, like...

03:04:29.880 Bruv.

03:04:30.900 This is, like, seven questions in one soup chat.

03:04:33.360 Come on.

03:04:33.660 We'll do one just because we got to get through these chats.

03:04:37.160 Would you be offended on first date if a guy asked you a series of direct...

03:04:40.000 As men, we have most lose today in the world.

03:04:41.900 Are you a feminist? 1.00

03:04:42.800 Who do you vote for?

03:04:44.280 Okay.

03:04:44.500 So, would you be offended if a guy asked you these questions?

03:04:46.960 If you're a feminist, who do you vote for? 1.00

03:04:48.200 Do you want kids?

03:04:49.540 Will you be involved in the children's...

03:04:51.480 On the first date.

03:04:53.840 How about this?

03:04:54.640 I'll make it easy.

03:04:55.460 We'll go around the table.

03:04:56.240 I'm going to ask one of these questions.

03:04:57.720 Are you a feminist? 1.00

03:05:00.140 I suppose so.

03:05:01.920 Mm-hmm.

03:05:03.060 Yeah.

03:05:04.220 Yeah.

03:05:05.420 Yeah.

03:05:06.400 You guys got to speak into the mics.

03:05:07.940 Yes.

03:05:09.360 I believe in equal rights.

03:05:11.180 Most of these answers aren't shocking, but no.

03:05:13.280 I'm not a feminist. 0.96

03:05:14.740 Okay.

03:05:16.600 Let's get through the chats.

03:05:17.960 All right.

03:05:18.680 Yo, Zentians, thank you for the $50 soup chat. 0.92

03:05:20.580 Catholic trauma.

03:05:21.400 If you're on OF, you have guilt by association, irrespective of your content.

03:05:25.660 Selling your morals, dignity, and your future prospects will yield nothing more than the

03:05:29.180 vacas chasm between your legs for some...

03:05:31.520 Oh, he sent another $50. 0.84

03:05:32.460 Thank you, Daddy.

03:05:35.620 Yo, holiday gaming.

03:05:36.700 Do it again.

03:05:37.020 $50 soup chat.

03:05:37.840 Why is it that when a man talks about a girl in not-so-good light, they think we hate them?

03:05:41.920 I'm sure that I can speak for most guys when I say you can do it, but we will judge.

03:05:46.420 Wait, why is it that when a man talks about...

03:05:48.040 I don't think you hate us.

03:05:49.460 It's fine.

03:05:50.340 Oh, okay.

03:05:52.000 Yo, holiday gaming, though.

03:05:53.140 Thank you for the big $50 soup chat, man.

03:05:55.100 I really appreciate it.

03:05:56.000 Yo, Gus, thank you for the $20 soup chat.

03:05:57.660 Feminism Society lied to women and turned them into the masculine, independent man. 1.00

03:06:01.440 She always wanted to date and marry.

03:06:03.200 Most men do not care about your career, money, status.

03:06:05.680 Being feminine, fit, submissive, wanting to be a wife, mum, mum, keeps us. 1.00

03:06:12.340 G's in the...

03:06:13.600 W's?

03:06:14.620 You're going to say W's in the chat?

03:06:16.560 Yeah, whoops.

03:06:17.340 Okay.

03:06:18.200 Yeah.

03:06:19.600 I don't know if we go around the table on this one, but yeah, I mean, I think, you know,

03:06:24.560 you guys kind of criticized me a little bit for having, like, a lot of being very picky,

03:06:28.980 but, like, it really comes down for me a few things.

03:06:33.220 Loyalty, fidelity, femininity, peace.

03:06:37.500 Peace is the big one. 0.99

03:06:38.720 Peace is very big because I'm already stressed enough dealing with fucking life and business 1.00

03:06:43.300 and all that shit. 1.00

03:06:44.180 The last thing I want to deal with or go home to is a combative woman. 1.00

03:06:49.540 I think that if I could give any advice to a girl is not to be combative with your partner.

03:06:54.200 Do not nag your partner.

03:06:56.740 We don't...

03:06:57.380 Guys, we want peace.

03:06:59.500 So, yeah.

03:07:02.320 And then, I don't know, the other stuff.

03:07:07.360 The masculine, independent stuff.

03:07:10.460 Yeah, I would say...

03:07:12.140 So you don't want your girl pulling 30K on OnlyFans a month? 0.97

03:07:16.900 I'm guessing.

03:07:17.160 It wouldn't matter.

03:07:18.620 It wouldn't and it shouldn't matter.

03:07:20.160 To me, like, it's not like if a girl is making her own money, like, good.

03:07:28.340 Good for you.

03:07:29.220 That's cool.

03:07:29.780 Right, because I'd say that attributes to the peace. 0.98

03:07:34.220 Actually, not necessarily because, honestly, to, like, the corporate world is super fucking cutthroat. 0.96

03:07:39.620 To be a business owner is super fucking difficult and stressful. 0.99

03:07:43.180 Like, being self-employed for over 10 years, like, it's fucking stressful and there's bullshit. 0.99

03:07:49.780 No, I know. 0.99

03:07:50.060 Yeah. 1.00

03:07:50.360 And especially the corporate world, there's fucking backstabbing. 0.98

03:07:53.160 And to be, like, hyper-successful, it requires a certain degree of tenacity that is probably going to seep into your, like, how you are personally. 0.98

03:08:04.240 Not always, but, like, I've dated attorneys, for example, litigation attorneys. 0.99

03:08:10.160 Damn. 0.99

03:08:10.780 Not the most feminine women, let me just say. 1.00

03:08:13.220 No, probably.

03:08:13.420 We'd rather have a woman that gives us peace that works at RVs than a super successful CEO. 1.00

03:08:19.480 Oh, yeah, give me the, uh, I'll date, like, an attractive girl that works at Starbucks, at McDonald's, even if I'm substantially out-earning her. 0.63

03:08:30.520 Like, a woman's money, like, if she makes it great and she's still cool, that's totally fine. 1.00

03:08:34.700 But, like, I don't, it's not going to make a girl, if she's a doctor, it doesn't make her, like, more attractive.

03:08:43.680 Gotcha.

03:08:44.460 You'd rather she's a good child-bearer.

03:08:45.360 Awesome, go for it. 0.93

03:08:45.940 So being goal-oriented and ambitious isn't attractive.

03:08:49.280 It doesn't...

03:08:49.920 We don't really necessarily care about that from the woman.

03:08:53.160 It's...

03:08:53.880 As long as you...

03:08:54.300 There's nothing wrong with it.

03:08:55.540 Yeah, absolutely.

03:08:56.340 Nothing wrong with it. 0.98

03:08:57.580 Fucking go for it. 0.99

03:08:58.480 That's perfect for your life. 1.00

03:08:59.800 That's great.

03:09:00.320 But in terms of making you more attractive to us, in the same way that, like, for example, a lot of girls would say, a guy who's a doctor, he's a catch.

03:09:10.000 A girl who's a doctor or a girl who's a barista, if you're nice, if we like you, it doesn't... 1.00

03:09:18.340 It's not part of the equation.

03:09:20.200 It's not part of the calculus.

03:09:21.560 It doesn't really...

03:09:23.240 It doesn't make a girl sexier. 1.00

03:09:25.280 Although the one thing, the argument I could say for that in your favor would be if she was a doctor, she would have to be significantly smarter than the average woman, and I would find that attractive. 1.00

03:09:36.620 So...

03:09:36.820 So you do, like, value intelligence.

03:09:39.000 Absolutely.

03:09:39.500 Yes.

03:09:39.840 It comes with being goal-oriented.

03:09:42.740 Not necessarily.

03:09:44.680 Goals and intelligence don't correlate.

03:09:49.240 I mean, if you had the goal to seek out intelligence and education, then, you know...

03:09:54.060 Well, and then the other thing I would add to this is, as far as a woman's ambition and, subsequently, her earning potential or her current earning status, women do not share their resources with men the same way that men share their resources with women.

03:10:11.660 Women do not spoil men, generally speaking here, the same way that men will spoil women. 0.96

03:10:19.140 Oh, man.

03:10:19.800 I've been doing it wrong.

03:10:20.920 Well, apparently, I guess some...

03:10:23.320 Hey, there's some simp chicks out there, but, like, women do not, like... 1.00

03:10:28.120 And we've...

03:10:29.200 Some of you guys were kind of with the first date thing, whatever.

03:10:31.940 We've had girls come on the show and say, the guy should pay. 0.99

03:10:34.820 The guy should pay for the date.

03:10:36.140 Well, of course, if you're expecting the guy to pay, then the money you're bringing to the relationship is fucking irrelevant if you expect us to pay for anything anyways.

03:10:44.940 I'll give you guys an example.

03:10:46.520 I dated a woman who's an attorney.

03:10:49.520 This was years ago.

03:10:51.640 She was out earning me.

03:10:53.520 Litigation, $200,000, $300,000 a year.

03:10:57.380 She told me, well, I really, even though I'm, like, independent, I'm an independent boss babe, strong, independent, I really like chivalry, and I really like a guy who'll take care of me and take me on dates.

03:11:09.800 I'm, like, you out earn, like, 95% of men. 0.99

03:11:15.160 Why should a fucking... 0.99

03:11:16.840 Why should a guy pay for you under these circumstances? 1.00

03:11:19.640 So it's, like, even when women do make a ton of money, they still aren't, like, paying like that. 0.99

03:11:26.420 I mean, that's a pretty general statement.

03:11:28.320 I have a different view.

03:11:29.740 Like, for example, one of my past relationships, he had, like, $5 in his bank account.

03:11:35.520 Like, I love the kid.

03:11:37.000 Like, he's a great person, but who's paying when we went out?

03:11:41.000 It's me.

03:11:41.940 Sure.

03:11:42.360 And we're still friends.

03:11:43.640 Even when I hang out with him now, I like to help him out.

03:11:46.560 You know, I don't have a ton of money, but I have more than him.

03:11:49.240 Well, I think you're being taken advantage of, but, I mean, the exception really doesn't make the rule, and I guess I could prove this sort of like this.

03:11:57.760 Because has any of you been...

03:12:01.840 Has a guy ever offered to fly you out somewhere in your DMs?

03:12:05.680 Has a guy ever offered to fly you out?

03:12:07.220 Yeah.

03:12:07.460 Yes?

03:12:09.200 No, but the person I'm talking to is flying here to see me.

03:12:13.340 Okay.

03:12:14.100 Yeah.

03:12:14.620 You've been offered to be flown out multiple times, maybe?

03:12:17.700 Yeah.

03:12:18.220 You might not take them up on it, but you get the offer, correct?

03:12:21.680 Yeah.

03:12:22.260 What about you?

03:12:22.820 Nope.

03:12:23.320 Okay.

03:12:23.960 Yep.

03:12:24.520 Close.

03:12:24.900 Into the mic, guys.

03:12:25.380 Yes.

03:12:26.160 Yes.

03:12:27.320 Okay.

03:12:27.760 I've offered, so.

03:12:29.240 Okay.

03:12:32.360 Guys don't get flown offers to be flown out by girls. 0.96

03:12:36.220 That's the length to which men are prepared to spend resources to get women. 1.00

03:12:42.180 I flew to a guy.

03:12:43.280 Does that count?

03:12:45.020 Had you known him?

03:12:46.600 That's different.

03:12:47.220 I mean, I'm talking, these are guys who offer to fly you out probably are not guys that you've met before, I'm assuming.

03:12:53.280 They want to bring you to Miami.

03:12:54.700 They want to bring you to LA.

03:12:55.900 Sure, I don't take them up on their offer, but, yes.

03:12:57.600 I get a lot of those.

03:12:58.340 Okay.

03:12:58.360 Can I ask you another question?

03:12:59.940 What is the most, what is the most extravagant date a guy has ever proposed or taken you out on?

03:13:10.040 Well, someone knew I was really interested in going to Korea, and so they were like, let me take you on a trip for like three weeks, you know, all inclusion.

03:13:19.760 Had you met him before?

03:13:20.740 No, never.

03:13:21.460 He just followed me for a very long time.

03:13:23.440 Actually, we met him, he came to see me at one of the conventions.

03:13:26.540 Okay, what about you?

03:13:27.600 What's like the most extravagant?

03:13:30.300 I know you guys are in college, so it's like maybe the guys probably aren't, you know, going crazy.

03:13:35.960 Well, my Minnesota boy took me to Sushi Train, and we dropped like $200, I think.

03:13:41.820 How old is he?

03:13:42.920 He's 18.

03:13:44.240 He's 18?

03:13:44.800 He's putting in effort.

03:13:45.960 That's effort.

03:13:46.480 And let me ask, okay, so he's 18.

03:13:48.980 I mean, he paid for the whole thing?

03:13:52.660 Mm-hmm.

03:13:53.980 Trust me, I offered, but no, he wouldn't let me.

03:13:56.180 Well, okay.

03:13:57.600 There's not a lot of 18-year-old women that are taking men out on dates for $200. 1.00

03:14:02.680 Go ahead.

03:14:03.700 Most extravagant?

03:14:04.800 Yeah.

03:14:05.260 Most expensive, most extravagant.

03:14:07.960 Probably Nobu.

03:14:09.380 How much is that?

03:14:11.000 It's dinner.

03:14:11.880 $400, $500 minimum.

03:14:13.280 It depends if you're drinking or not.

03:14:14.980 It's a couple hundred, though.

03:14:16.100 Okay.

03:14:16.560 And the guy paid for it.

03:14:18.860 Okay.

03:14:20.040 What about you?

03:14:21.240 Right to my NoDates, so.

03:14:22.840 NoDates?

03:14:23.520 Yeah.

03:14:24.060 Okay.

03:14:24.380 I'm hoping for a strapping in one, though, so.

03:14:26.240 You got this.

03:14:27.920 Okay.

03:14:29.140 When I lived in Miami, I had a guy take me on a yacht, which was.

03:14:33.000 Wait, hold on.

03:14:33.780 You've never been on a date before?

03:14:35.400 No.

03:14:36.080 Never.

03:14:36.600 Never.

03:14:37.120 That's wild.

03:14:38.080 I feel like dates, like, it's, like, not a thing anymore, I swear.

03:14:42.940 Well, you guys are in college.

03:14:44.160 Yeah, and, like, especially, like, in high school, it's, like, not a thing, you know?

03:14:47.400 What do you guys do instead?

03:14:50.400 Just talk on the phone?

03:14:51.400 They just took us.

03:14:52.420 Snapchat?

03:14:53.100 Yeah, you just hang out.

03:14:54.040 I don't know.

03:14:54.580 See, I didn't go on many dates, either, until after high school, college.

03:14:58.220 Right, yeah.

03:14:58.760 The real world is when you start going on date dates.

03:15:00.300 Exactly.

03:15:00.960 I mean, I get that.

03:15:01.780 Wait, okay.

03:15:03.640 I'll take you on a date.

03:15:05.400 You down?

03:15:06.900 I knew you were.

03:15:06.920 I knew you were.

03:15:07.200 I don't know.

03:15:08.000 We're loving.

03:15:09.340 I don't know.

03:15:11.140 You know, here's the thing.

03:15:12.000 I don't know.

03:15:12.640 I've been incredibly toxic this entire night, so maybe you're thoroughly put off by my.

03:15:18.740 I'm not giving the great first impression.

03:15:20.680 Oh, wow.

03:15:21.320 That's a good endorsement.

03:15:24.300 Okay.

03:15:25.100 What do you, you down?

03:15:27.380 Oh, you're being serious?

03:15:28.700 Yeah, you can reject me.

03:15:29.920 How old are you?

03:15:31.040 33.

03:15:31.760 You're 33?

03:15:32.600 You're 33.

03:15:33.280 Dang, is that not weird?

03:15:34.700 How old are you?

03:15:35.400 18.

03:15:36.200 It's not weird.

03:15:37.060 Really?

03:15:37.800 Nope.

03:15:38.020 I like the older guy.

03:15:38.880 No cop, no stop.

03:15:41.340 I've never gone like 30 above.

03:15:43.940 I think I might get judged for that.

03:15:45.840 These people in the chats already think I'm for the streets.

03:15:48.600 Wait, what?

03:15:49.340 For the streets.

03:15:50.940 Chat, do you guys ship us?

03:15:53.020 Do you ship me and Diana?

03:15:55.580 He doesn't even know my name.

03:15:56.720 Did I say it right?

03:15:57.260 That's an automatic no.

03:15:58.380 Oh, wait.

03:16:00.640 Riz is indomitable.

03:16:03.160 What's your name again?

03:16:04.480 Wow.

03:16:05.060 What's your name again?

03:16:06.580 Guys.

03:16:07.440 So, actually, that's a negative.

03:16:11.640 I don't go on dates with guys who don't know my name.

03:16:14.760 To be fair, to be fair, there's one, two, three, four, five, six of you, you know?

03:16:19.720 So, I haven't committed your names to memories.

03:16:23.220 I said it earlier, didn't I?

03:16:24.880 You did.

03:16:25.420 Would you actually go around the table and say our names if you tried?

03:16:29.280 I mean, you guys gave, like, weird waifu anime names.

03:16:32.640 There are names, but okay.

03:16:35.000 Honestly, the only girl's name who I remember is Tay.

03:16:37.900 Same.

03:16:38.440 Oh, thanks, guys.

03:16:39.680 That's nice.

03:16:40.440 It's really easy.

03:16:41.120 I've known her for, like, a couple years.

03:16:42.940 Yeah.

03:16:43.680 I just, for some reason, I think it's your Instagram because it's just Tay or something.

03:16:47.600 Like, that's in the YouTube.

03:16:48.500 Oh, really?

03:16:49.080 Well, it's just Tay.

03:16:50.360 No, it's Tay Hope with two A's.

03:16:52.240 Oh.

03:16:52.740 So, wait.

03:16:53.080 What's your first name?

03:16:53.640 That's so cool, though. 1.00

03:16:54.940 Damn. 0.99

03:16:55.740 What's the first name? 0.99

03:16:56.580 You were so close.

03:16:57.020 You were close.

03:16:57.580 Just keep going.

03:16:58.120 You were so close.

03:16:58.140 I think I just, like, got my wires twisted, you know?

03:17:00.120 You should have just asked her to go to Starbucks with you. 0.95

03:17:03.620 Well, he asked her on a date.

03:17:04.840 Write the name on the cup.

03:17:06.540 He kind of fumbled with the name.

03:17:08.540 Yeah.

03:17:09.080 Story of my life, right?

03:17:10.060 You did say her name earlier.

03:17:11.260 I did say it earlier, so I guess...

03:17:13.300 You're on the right track.

03:17:14.080 You were really close.

03:17:14.640 It starts with a D, right?

03:17:15.600 Yeah, like, you are on track.

03:17:17.220 You just got it wrong.

03:17:19.980 Go with your gut.

03:17:20.780 Go with your gut.

03:17:21.360 It's not Diana, is it?

03:17:22.380 It is Diana.

03:17:23.520 Oh, Diana?

03:17:24.380 Yeah.

03:17:24.920 Oh, I said Diana.

03:17:25.960 Yeah.

03:17:26.640 It was, like, one vowel.

03:17:28.080 Bruv, you can't.

03:17:28.980 You gotta cut me some slack on that.

03:17:30.500 I pick that, personally, the Dianas of the world. 1.00

03:17:34.020 Damn. 0.99

03:17:35.300 Okay. 1.00

03:17:38.700 Where were we?

03:17:39.680 So, that's a yes, I'm assuming, right?

03:17:41.600 I think you got rejected, actually, earlier.

03:17:43.920 Oh, rip?

03:17:44.460 Okay.

03:17:44.700 I don't know.

03:17:45.600 Go ahead.

03:17:46.340 When I lived in Miami, I had a guy take me on a yacht, which was fun.

03:17:50.420 A guy take you on a yacht?

03:17:51.660 Yep.

03:17:52.300 Oh, okay.

03:17:54.840 I can't really explain too much about it, but it was, like...

03:17:59.880 Dubai?

03:18:00.940 No, I wish.

03:18:01.820 That would have been nice.

03:18:03.860 I would say, altogether, the date was, like, 600?

03:18:10.100 Tell you what, guys.

03:18:10.940 I've had probably over, I don't know, a ton of first dates, 33.

03:18:14.880 A girl bought me a burrito once.

03:18:19.700 Really?

03:18:19.980 $10 burrito.

03:18:21.780 Some of y'all are, like, getting flown out.

03:18:24.840 Okay, so, just to bring it back to my original thing. 0.95

03:18:28.140 That's why a woman's money doesn't fucking matter, because you don't share your resources with 1.00

03:18:34.700 men. 0.99

03:18:35.160 I do.

03:18:36.980 Okay, what's the most...

03:18:38.180 You said a guy spent $600 on you on the first date.

03:18:40.860 What's the most extravagant date that you took a guy on, and how much did it cost?

03:18:44.880 A date or just spending on a guy in general?

03:18:46.580 First time.

03:18:48.060 First time?

03:18:48.460 Not like your boyfriend that you've been with for two years.

03:18:50.680 No, there's been guys that weren't my boyfriends that I've spent money on.

03:18:53.300 How much?

03:18:53.680 It wasn't the first date.

03:18:54.480 How much?

03:18:55.300 Oh, well...

03:18:56.260 $230 flight.

03:18:58.540 Okay, that's less than the most that a guy has spent on you.

03:19:02.040 Okay, yeah, but that is a rare occasion.

03:19:05.860 It's still significant, but I can tell you this.

03:19:09.060 The vast majority of guys, even really attractive guys, have never had those similar experiences.

03:19:16.500 Women don't spend money on men the same way that men spend money on women. 1.00

03:19:21.000 Is that what you want?

03:19:21.600 So we don't receive any value.

03:19:23.280 We don't receive benefit from your money.

03:19:25.660 Is your love language receiving material things, and have you communicated that to the

03:19:31.220 people you're seeing?

03:19:32.280 Because maybe they're trying to give you love in different ways.

03:19:35.200 Like, for example, I'm a person who likes to touch and hug people.

03:19:39.080 I mean, I think he's just saying that, in general, it doesn't happen.

03:19:42.000 Like, just the way things are set up now.

03:19:43.940 Even if his love language was number one, gifts, he's not going to get them.

03:19:48.020 Yeah, it doesn't matter what your love language is.

03:19:51.480 Girls are not moving in that way. 1.00

03:19:55.560 That's very interesting.

03:19:57.420 I feel like there's just a notion behind men that they want to show their wealth to women.

03:20:02.820 You know, I feel like it's just a thing.

03:20:04.420 And girls take that, and it's like, okay, well, like, we don't really necessarily have

03:20:09.580 the urge to, like, we could.

03:20:10.920 I'm sure there's a great percentage of women who will do it, and, like, in the future, 0.96

03:20:15.000 probably more.

03:20:15.620 But I feel like just men, in general, just like to show their wealth.

03:20:17.900 And also, there's a lot of...

03:20:18.980 And care for them.

03:20:19.640 Oh, I'm so sorry.

03:20:20.340 But the conversation was, like, why men don't really value a woman's ambition or her career.

03:20:28.980 It's, I mean, there's a bunch of regions, but we don't reap any benefit, so why would

03:20:35.900 we care?

03:20:36.820 Whereas women, you do get benefit. 1.00

03:20:40.140 If a guy's a high earner, you're probably going to see a little bit of that in some way.

03:20:45.820 Well, and also, I feel like there's a lot of men that are jaded, too, that they're used

03:20:49.560 to not getting things.

03:20:50.400 So when they do, like, it's a double-edged sword, because there's guys that I have done

03:20:53.440 nice things for in the past, they've paid for things, and they were almost taken back

03:20:57.740 in an offensive type way, and they're like, no, women don't spend money on me, or they 1.00

03:21:03.440 don't receive gifts well, because they're not used to it.

03:21:05.780 Maybe they just don't like getting things bought for them.

03:21:08.780 Even guys that, it's not even about them wanting or not wanting things bought, they just

03:21:13.480 don't receive it well, because societally, maybe they haven't received it in the past.

03:21:17.880 So it's really a case-by-case basis.

03:21:23.120 Okay, let's move on.

03:21:24.700 I've really got to get caught up on this superchats here.

03:21:28.240 Wait, hold on.

03:21:29.240 Did I?

03:21:30.980 Yo, Zentians.

03:21:31.960 Okay, I think this, did this go out as a TTS?

03:21:33.920 We read this one.

03:21:35.600 Yo, Zentians.

03:21:36.460 Thank you, man.

03:21:36.860 Appreciate it.

03:21:38.080 Ninja Smokehouse, thank you for the $20 superchat.

03:21:40.740 She basically wants you to date as if you're a woman. 1.00

03:21:43.080 Ignore your preferences, because it's not worth focusing on your past matter, because as a

03:21:47.860 man, it shows us how you think and the potential future we will, may have together.

03:21:52.560 That goes back to the body count thing.

03:21:53.780 Thank you, man.

03:21:54.640 Yo, lukewarm, $20 superchat.

03:21:56.140 Attraction between the sexes is a weighted sum.

03:21:58.720 The factors may be the same, but the weights are different.

03:22:01.060 Yes.

03:22:01.180 Good point.

03:22:02.380 Very good point, Luke.

03:22:03.300 Thank you, man.

03:22:03.740 M. Martin, thank you for the $20 superchat.

03:22:05.460 My bona fides, I don't know if I'm pronouncing that right.

03:22:08.860 Bona fides.

03:22:09.180 Bona fides.

03:22:10.420 Bona fides.

03:22:11.200 I work at a think tank in Tennessee.

03:22:13.280 We do anthropological studies across the globe.

03:22:16.600 Ladies, the number of sexual partners you have will directly affect your future relationships. 1.00

03:22:21.180 It's biology.

03:22:22.160 Accept it or not.

03:22:25.320 Anifro with the Canadian $20 superchat.

03:22:27.440 Girls, as you value, prefer, ambition, discipline, and drive goals in men, ETV, or maybe et cetera. 1.00

03:22:32.980 Men care about the thought processes used by women for who they select to be with and why the core variability is morality.

03:22:42.740 The big, big dog.

03:22:47.360 Thank you, man, for the $20 superchat.

03:22:48.820 I don't care about body count.

03:22:49.860 They think just because most women don't care about a man's body count that men shouldn't. 0.97

03:22:54.480 Just like women think men think men think. 1.00

03:22:56.900 Wait, hold on.

03:22:57.380 Just like women think men think men care about their income because they care about a man's income. 0.99

03:23:05.080 True.

03:23:06.300 Yo, Alto Clef TV, thank you for the $20 superchat.

03:23:08.680 The fact that you put such a high value to stuff like virginity and putting aside the emotional aspect of a relationship is the most incel take I've heard.

03:23:15.460 You aren't a high-value man.

03:23:16.920 You are peak incel.

03:23:18.080 Okay, hater.

03:23:20.380 Yeah, the fact.

03:23:22.720 High value.

03:23:23.360 I mean, you can say that, Alto Clef TV, but I think we found one of the OnlyFans subs here for one of the girls. 0.98

03:23:35.660 Oh, no.

03:23:36.280 We don't know him.

03:23:38.140 Oh, sure.

03:23:38.960 You guys were looking at each other a little bit.

03:23:41.560 He's a friend.

03:23:42.100 Because it's funny.

03:23:43.880 I mean, this guy obviously didn't listen.

03:23:45.820 Putting aside the emotional aspect of a relationship, bruv, I don't think you listened.

03:23:51.920 Body count is not the sole thing that we care about.

03:23:55.580 You can care about something and it not be the only thing you care about.

03:23:59.320 But you guys put a huge, huge emphasis on it.

03:24:04.100 Like, it's the biggest thing you think about and talk about all the time.

03:24:07.480 No, we don't think about it all the time.

03:24:09.180 It's every podcast I've watched.

03:24:12.820 Well, it seems...

03:24:13.320 I did a little research, you know?

03:24:14.880 No, it does come up in a lot of the podcasts.

03:24:17.200 It's an interesting thing to certainly discuss.

03:24:20.260 And all men in this kind of sphere... 0.89

03:24:21.580 It kind of tells us the way you think.

03:24:23.540 Sure, but I have a very low body count, but I'm still saying that it's okay to have a high body count for women. 0.85

03:24:28.520 Well, it's just funny.

03:24:29.840 Like, women who even aren't promiscuous are prepared to defend promiscuity. 0.99

03:24:34.240 It's just...

03:24:34.940 Because it should be fine for everyone to be promiscuous.

03:24:37.720 It's fine for you.

03:24:38.700 It should be fine for them.

03:24:39.980 Let me clarify this.

03:24:43.240 As a woman, you're free to do whatever you want.

03:24:45.900 If you want to sleep with seven new guys a week, do it.

03:24:49.140 Right, and you're free to not choose a woman who does that. 0.98

03:24:51.400 Yes, that's the point I'm about to make is I can choose not to deal with you because you're promiscuous.

03:24:57.520 Right, but then are you going to spend your entire career talking about how you are choosing women who aren't promiscuous and looking for women who aren't promiscuous instead of just going out there and, like, finding who you actually click with and not thinking about all these extra curricular things.

03:25:11.500 Well, I mean, it's my podcast show and it happens to come up.

03:25:14.820 Totally, I understand that.

03:25:15.960 I will gladly...

03:25:16.500 I will continue to talk about body count because women continue to come on the show and seem to have... 1.00

03:25:21.000 If I ask them if there's one thing that they quarrel with in terms of men's preferences, they're like, why do you guys judge body count?

03:25:29.660 And I'll continue to have the conversations.

03:25:31.280 The chat wants to talk about it, so I'll continue to talk about it, but I mean...

03:25:36.360 And another thing about that is if you are promiscuous, not only can we smell it a mile away, I think I read that earlier, but we know you're not only promiscuous for us and with us.

03:25:45.920 Look, here's another reason why body count matters.

03:25:49.740 If a girl's kind of sleeping around, my impression there is she's not relationship material. 1.00

03:25:57.660 She honestly necessarily is not relationship material.

03:26:02.360 Like, you're not interested in a relationship if you're sleeping around with multiple people.

03:26:09.560 May I just say that, like, I had a really good friend, not this one, a different one,

03:26:14.980 who was trying to find, like, a serious relationship.

03:26:18.140 But you know what?

03:26:18.660 She was sleeping with other people because she wanted to see how the sex was before continuing on down the line of a serious relationship. 1.00

03:26:26.280 And I think that's what a lot of women with a slightly higher body count have right now, 1.00

03:26:30.200 is that they're meeting a lot of men who they're sleeping with, and then the men ghost them or whatever,

03:26:35.780 and they have no choice but to then have that body count.

03:26:38.220 Maybe they thought it was going to be a relationship.

03:26:39.960 Maybe they thought it was going to be great.

03:26:41.380 But they get ghosted, guy moves on to the next girl, and they have to move on.

03:26:45.480 In order to find that end partner who's going to click with you on all aspects, sexuality, intimacy, intelligence, you have to try.

03:26:54.060 I was just lucky that, you know, or maybe unlucky, that I find it really hard to get intimate with people who I'm not close with.

03:27:01.220 But, like, other people don't, so why should they be put down for that?

03:27:04.760 I don't necessarily think that, and I don't think I said that they should be put down.

03:27:12.040 I'm saying that for me and for a lot of men, if a woman is promiscuous, she's probably not a good bet for a long-term relationship. 0.61

03:27:22.660 But are you talking about, like, past or present?

03:27:25.560 Present.

03:27:25.640 Because, like, I feel like...

03:27:26.940 Both.

03:27:27.180 But body count counts past.

03:27:28.560 That doesn't make sense, because you could have, like, a ho phase, like, what, three years ago, and then you're ready to settle. 0.80

03:27:34.700 Right.

03:27:35.080 That doesn't, like, mean that you're not ready to commit if you had a ho phase, you know? 0.99

03:27:39.680 I mean, that's kind of...

03:27:40.700 If you've had a ho phase, that's a bit of a red flag. 1.00

03:27:43.460 But, like, you had, and, like, you know, like, everyone, like, needs to look around before they settle for a relationship.

03:27:48.840 Like, I don't think...

03:27:49.900 But it kind of just goes back, just because something's in your past.

03:27:52.760 I mean, again, if I can bring up this example, if I found out that a girl cheated on every... 1.00

03:28:00.100 Or if you found out that a guy cheated on every single one of his exes, even though that was in the past, you're still going to be, like, that's going to raise an eyebrow.

03:28:08.360 Wow.

03:28:11.240 Your past...

03:28:13.040 Okay, I'm trying to think. 0.99

03:28:15.220 Would you date a guy who previously slept with prostitutes?

03:28:22.060 If he's clean, and he hasn't done it for a very long time, and he tests clean, and he tells me, look, this was my past...

03:28:27.360 It was a year ago.

03:28:28.080 Let's say it was a year ago. 0.99

03:28:29.460 He was sleeping with a whole bunch of prostitutes. 1.00

03:28:31.740 He's clean, but he was sleeping with prostitutes. 0.99

03:28:33.760 A year ago is a little soon for me.

03:28:35.260 I would want it to be, like, three years ago, maybe more.

03:28:37.560 But, like, if he's moved on from that life, like, say you are dating a recovered drug addict.

03:28:43.840 Like, it's the same thing.

03:28:44.560 Are you going to put it against them for using...

03:28:47.360 Oh, wow.

03:28:48.640 So you would never...

03:28:49.980 Men are allowed to have standards.

03:28:51.120 Of course.

03:28:52.200 So are women. 1.00

03:28:52.820 If you were previously addicted to heroin...

03:28:54.620 Right.

03:28:55.380 As someone who doesn't do any drugs, who hasn't done...

03:28:57.620 I smoked weed a few times in high school.

03:28:59.820 Don't...

03:29:00.460 I haven't smoked weed since the Bush administration.

03:29:03.740 Okay.

03:29:04.040 I don't...

03:29:05.440 If someone was previously addicted to heroin, for example...

03:29:08.540 Sure.

03:29:09.640 I'm not interested.

03:29:10.880 Right.

03:29:11.320 Point blank period.

03:29:12.320 That's totally fine.

03:29:13.840 However, it doesn't mean that they are, like, cursed, you know?

03:29:18.500 Like, it doesn't mean that they are a low-value person or something.

03:29:21.180 If they're recovered and fully living their lives moved on.

03:29:24.240 It's the same thing.

03:29:25.200 It precludes them from having a relationship with me.

03:29:28.140 That's fine.

03:29:29.320 Who...

03:29:29.640 I don't...

03:29:30.280 I mean, I don't personally care.

03:29:32.080 But, like, I think that a lot of people...

03:29:34.460 Don't worry about it.

03:29:36.640 Okay.

03:29:37.500 I think that a lot of people...

03:29:39.220 Like, sure.

03:29:40.300 You're looking for something very specific, right?

03:29:42.440 And you're looking for a low body count, 411.

03:29:45.540 No.

03:29:46.120 Okay.

03:29:46.420 Hold on.

03:29:47.280 Specific.

03:29:47.900 Yes, I am.

03:29:48.900 411.

03:29:49.640 I mean, he's looking for a low body count, 411 virgin. 0.98

03:29:54.480 Hold on.

03:29:54.740 Hold on.

03:29:55.020 Hold on.

03:29:55.380 Hold on.

03:29:57.240 F11.

03:29:57.640 Can you pull it back up, Eric?

03:30:01.700 Sorry, guys.

03:30:02.320 Our OBS...

03:30:03.460 Go ahead.

03:30:04.000 Continue.

03:30:04.820 You're looking for something very specific.

03:30:07.060 And...

03:30:07.380 But then you're coming on your podcast and you're kind of calling out women for looking for specific

03:30:12.000 things with height and stuff like that.

03:30:13.540 And it's totally...

03:30:14.100 I'm not.

03:30:14.740 Okay.

03:30:15.360 I'm not.

03:30:16.000 So are you just saying that it's comparable?

03:30:18.560 No.

03:30:19.060 I acknowledge that women, generally speaking, have a preference for tall men.

03:30:22.860 So...

03:30:23.260 I don't complain about it.

03:30:24.560 I acknowledge it exists.

03:30:25.700 Here's the thing, right?

03:30:26.360 Women want to say, you shouldn't care about body count or body count doesn't matter. 1.00

03:30:30.040 Women can't accept. 1.00

03:30:31.580 You might be dissatisfied with the fact that men care about body count.

03:30:36.240 Okay.

03:30:36.620 But women seem to want to refuse the idea that it ought to matter and does matter for men. 0.76

03:30:44.220 No.

03:30:44.460 It's fine if it matters to you.

03:30:45.900 And I certainly acknowledge that women are much pickier than men are. 0.99

03:30:49.220 Right.

03:30:49.860 And it's fine if it matters to you personally.

03:30:52.120 But if it's just...

03:30:53.540 It's a concept as a whole in the zeitgeist right now.

03:30:56.120 Body count.

03:30:56.800 It's like constantly talked about.

03:30:58.940 And I think that it's not as important as people make it.

03:31:01.780 I think there's so much more to a relationship.

03:31:03.940 Being a good mom is like the most important thing you should look for if you want to have kids.

03:31:07.880 Well, don't date single moms. 1.00

03:31:09.400 Oh.

03:31:09.880 No.

03:31:10.140 If you want to have kids, you should be looking for somebody who's going to be a good mom. 1.00

03:31:14.140 And that should be your top priority.

03:31:15.680 Who's going to be able to feed, take care, dress my kids and make them look perfect.

03:31:19.220 Have a happy family with me.

03:31:20.960 Make me happy at the end of the day when I come home from work.

03:31:23.460 That's what you should look for.

03:31:24.580 And it doesn't mean if she had eight sexual partners before or something that she's going to be a bad mother. 1.00

03:31:29.740 I don't disagree with you that you have to look at the totality of the person.

03:31:34.260 It's not just one single metric.

03:31:36.660 And that's either...

03:31:37.560 That's going to make them, for example.

03:31:40.500 Right.

03:31:40.760 I'm not saying that.

03:31:41.700 I have a question.

03:31:42.580 Okay.

03:31:42.980 Let's say like...

03:31:43.980 So because you said girls are more picky than guys.

03:31:45.860 They are.

03:31:46.260 That's pretty valid.

03:31:47.140 But so it's like you're not going to date just anybody.

03:31:50.200 So you're kind of looking around.

03:31:51.240 So what if like a girl goes on a date, doesn't really vibe with the person, and then gets a call from like an old hookup. 0.64

03:31:57.840 It's like, hey, want to hook up?

03:31:59.160 She takes the offer, hooks up with him, goes on another date, doesn't vibe, like does the same thing. 0.52

03:32:03.160 Is that a turn off for you or like...

03:32:05.880 Because she's just looking for the right person but is hooking up in between those dates. 1.00

03:32:10.020 Is it with the same person?

03:32:12.300 It could be the same person or it could be two different people.

03:32:15.180 Look, I think people are free to do whatever they want.

03:32:17.940 But my personal take is, is that I think that for both men and women, if you're sleeping with someone, that should be to some degree purposeful.

03:32:30.700 It shouldn't just like...

03:32:32.340 Agreed.

03:32:33.660 I don't know.

03:32:34.740 I mean, that's my take.

03:32:36.740 Some people are content being in situationships for nine months and then it ending and the commitment phobia, people are fine with it.

03:32:47.400 But for me, I think if you're sleeping with someone, you should at least have an intention to pursue something serious with them.

03:32:55.480 So, so, but your question is, would it be a turn off for me if a girl is going on dates and not feeling the vibe, which that whole vibe thing is another conversation.

03:33:06.200 But, and she's like hooking up with... 0.99

03:33:09.480 I don't think...

03:33:09.980 Here's the thing.

03:33:10.660 I don't think you should be...

03:33:13.480 I think whoever you're sleeping with, I think you should just be sleeping with one person at a time.

03:33:19.480 I don't think you should be dating and hooking up with another guy at the same time.

03:33:28.820 Okay.

03:33:29.700 If you're dating, be properly single.

03:33:32.200 Be...

03:33:32.760 That's what I would like to see.

03:33:35.180 Be actually single.

03:33:35.540 But what if you don't find a guy for like a year?

03:33:38.260 And then you're just not having sex for a whole year.

03:33:40.260 Wait, what?

03:33:40.900 Like I'd say like if you like can't properly find a guy that you want to date and have sex with for like a year.

03:33:47.480 That means you're saying that the girl should be celibate for a whole year, basically.

03:33:52.720 Sure.

03:33:53.480 So, okay.

03:33:54.360 Sure.

03:33:54.820 Really?

03:33:55.340 Okay.

03:33:55.540 I'll actually allow...

03:33:56.660 I'll actually allow you.

03:33:58.220 Go ahead.

03:33:58.900 Go ahead.

03:33:59.300 Do what you want.

03:33:59.760 I mean, I'd prefer you don't do it with five, six, seven, eight men.

03:34:03.360 If you had one or two in that 12-month period, okay.

03:34:08.580 That's understandable.

03:34:09.660 You have your needs.

03:34:10.660 We have...

03:34:11.240 Everybody has needs.

03:34:12.380 Oh.

03:34:12.820 So, just...

03:34:14.060 I mean, you're free to...

03:34:15.640 If you want to do a hookup, you want to engage in hookup culture, I don't think it's particularly rewarding.

03:34:21.280 I don't think people are particularly happy with it.

03:34:23.500 But if you want to do it, if it satisfies a short-term pleasure-seeking thing in you, then you're free to do it.

03:34:31.860 But I think people ought to, as far as who they have sex with, I think you should be angling to pursue something seriously with that person.

03:34:44.280 If not, why have sex?

03:34:47.760 Well, I can think of reasons why to have sex, but to me, I think it's...

03:34:53.400 I mean, you're just going to rack up your body count and...

03:34:55.760 Yeah.

03:34:56.800 And then men won't like you. 0.98

03:34:58.040 Look, look.

03:34:58.220 The woman should always be trying to... 1.00

03:34:59.600 Oh, no!

03:35:00.020 I think the woman should always, if they're getting sexual with somebody, they should always be trying to angle it into a relationship. 1.00

03:35:08.220 Now, when that comes to a man, you could say that sex is to say opposite, but a man's going to sleep around and not care about the possibility of a relationship, but a woman, I think, always should. 0.64

03:35:21.440 If she's going to be promiscuous and open her legs, they should be always in mind of a relationship. 0.99

03:35:28.580 Ultimately, what I would like is, if I'm going on a first date with a girl, come properly single. 1.00

03:35:38.900 Don't be fucking a guy here and fucking this guy and, like, talking to these three dudes over here. 0.99

03:35:45.300 Come proper single. 1.00

03:35:46.960 If I find out that I'm not the only one, and obviously, you're never really the only one these days, but the moment you find out, you're gone.

03:35:57.060 I'm done.

03:35:57.560 And I'm not giving you a second chance.

03:35:59.120 I'm just...

03:35:59.760 I've lost interest.

03:35:59.960 If you didn't drop everybody after you met me, then goodbye.

03:36:04.620 There we go.

03:36:05.940 Oh, wait. 1.00

03:36:06.320 Fuck. 1.00

03:36:06.540 Hold on. 1.00

03:36:09.300 Yeah, it's just...

03:36:10.500 I don't know, man.

03:36:12.920 Be properly single. 0.99

03:36:14.160 And I don't know if, like I said, if I find out, or like Cade said, excuse me, if I find out that I'm seeing you and we have sex and you're fucking another guy, it's done. 0.97

03:36:27.520 And maybe you're okay with that. 0.97

03:36:29.060 Maybe you're okay with seeing multiple guys at the same time. 0.99

03:36:32.080 But for me, it's just, it is the thought of sleeping with a girl, and maybe you guys might relate, because maybe the thought of you guys sleeping with a guy who just fucked a girl three hours earlier might, in your stomach, might give you a little disgust. 0.99

03:36:48.020 Of course. 0.99

03:36:48.340 For STD risk.

03:36:49.440 But I don't care what he's done 10 years, five years ago.

03:36:52.040 You know, that's the difference.

03:36:53.080 His body count doesn't matter that much. 0.99

03:36:55.400 I care if he's fucking another girl, you know, right now, this week. 1.00

03:36:59.140 I want him to come single. 1.00

03:37:00.400 Exactly.

03:37:01.060 I want him to be invested in the relationship.

03:37:03.320 But if he slept around, you know, if he had a whole phase, I wouldn't necessarily care, as long as he's way past that and ready to commit.

03:37:10.300 And I don't understand why it's different, frankly.

03:37:12.600 I think you guys go back to, like, evolution and lizard brain, and I understand that that's your preference.

03:37:18.980 But I just don't think that, like, it should be, like, societally that girls need to have a lower count and guys don't have to care. 0.86

03:37:27.620 Like, I don't think that's right. 0.99

03:37:28.860 Because to me, sex is more than just sport fucking. 0.99

03:37:31.900 Yeah, I agree. 1.00

03:37:32.740 I'm right there with you, buddy. 0.99

03:37:34.200 If you fucked a hundred people, I don't care if it's in your past, you have detached intimacy from the act of sex. 1.00

03:37:41.940 You have rewired your brain. 1.00

03:37:44.140 It's fried. 0.85

03:37:45.040 You're done.

03:37:46.000 Like, it's just.

03:37:46.580 There's no fixing it for you.

03:37:48.280 Like, they couldn't go through therapy.

03:37:50.040 They couldn't work it out.

03:37:51.180 It's not about therapy.

03:37:52.300 You have detached intimacy from sex.

03:37:56.280 It's gone.

03:37:57.380 And now you're going to have a harder time bonding with anybody in the future.

03:38:00.500 You're going to have a hard, exactly.

03:38:01.840 You're going to have a harder time pair bonding, and you're going to bring, it's also baggage.

03:38:06.260 Like, the more past partners you've had, you're coming with more baggage.

03:38:10.620 And that's why it's better to date somebody.

03:38:12.660 I think, I've taken this from Andrew Tate.

03:38:14.820 I think it's way better.

03:38:16.600 I mean, it depends on how mature the woman is at 19, 20. 1.00

03:38:20.200 But it is hard to have a relationship with somebody that young.

03:38:23.200 But I do think it is better to date somebody with less bodies, with less time in the dating market,

03:38:28.480 because that way you're dealing with less baggage.

03:38:31.020 And that way, they become a better person.

03:38:33.640 See, men, if they have trauma in their life, they use that trauma to become a better man.

03:38:38.140 Women that have trauma in their life, it makes them, it makes it harder for them to go through life. 0.99

03:38:44.100 Women that have trauma, it's hard for them to get past. 1.00

03:38:46.980 Men that have trauma, it molds you into a bigger, better man.

03:38:50.480 Are you joking?

03:38:51.220 No.

03:38:51.540 Like, what?

03:38:52.160 What are you saying, dude?

03:38:53.300 You should take that back.

03:38:54.240 As someone who's experienced a lot of trauma, that's a really interesting thing to say.

03:39:00.220 So, I'm not sure exactly where I stand on this, but what you're saying is, men's trauma makes them.

03:39:07.020 Better.

03:39:07.360 Women's trauma breaks them. 1.00

03:39:09.340 Absolutely.

03:39:10.040 Is that what you're saying?

03:39:10.840 Absolutely.

03:39:11.360 Absolutely not.

03:39:11.960 The mentality works the same for men and women.

03:39:14.260 Like, I feel like trauma can also make a woman stronger.

03:39:17.180 When is the last time, when is the last time that a woman has, is a grape victim? 1.00

03:39:23.240 Maybe she's gotten, maybe she's gotten grape multiple times, and, but that trauma is going to follow her for the rest of her life.

03:39:29.420 Oh, God.

03:39:30.340 I don't think you could say the same thing about a man.

03:39:32.420 I don't know about this.

03:39:33.100 Or you could say the same thing about a man.

03:39:34.820 I was literally going to say this.

03:39:38.980 Okay, on the topics of body counts and stuff, and you talked about having a certain amount of partners.

03:39:44.720 You're detached from the idea of intimacy.

03:39:47.060 What if a woman experienced at any point in her life, whether it be at a young age or recently, she was affected by, like, sexual abuse in any type of way, and that affected her detachment from intimacy?

03:40:01.000 Is that going to make you think differently about her body count now?

03:40:04.820 About her body?

03:40:06.180 Well, wait, about making... 0.97

03:40:08.100 Because of the sexual abuse.

03:40:09.260 She still has trauma. 0.90

03:40:09.900 Because of the sexual abuse that she received, and it created detachment to intimacy when it comes to sex. 1.00

03:40:15.740 How's that related to body count, though?

03:40:18.280 It's still going to make it harder to bond.

03:40:19.880 It's still going to make it harder to bond.

03:40:21.100 It's still going to make it harder to date them.

03:40:22.580 It's still going to make it harder for them to be a wife. 1.00

03:40:24.500 Trauma breaks women. 1.00

03:40:26.420 Trauma builds women. 1.00

03:40:28.000 Trauma builds men. 0.82

03:40:29.220 There you go.

03:40:29.460 Trauma builds men. 0.82

03:40:30.580 No.

03:40:31.320 What?

03:40:31.780 What is it?

03:40:32.540 We don't have to go through and talk about trauma.

03:40:34.360 About each individual traumas.

03:40:36.080 But who do you know in your life that, as a female, has gone through a lot of trauma and came out ten times stronger from it?

03:40:43.140 Are you serious?

03:40:43.960 I mean...

03:40:44.220 I could list so many. 0.90

03:40:45.500 What if a guy got raped? 0.73

03:40:47.700 And then where do you stand in that, then? 0.65

03:40:49.660 Can we...

03:40:50.160 Let's maybe move away from the grape topic, but...

03:40:54.660 Yeah.

03:40:55.080 Could you be physically assaulted and then come out ten times stronger, buddy?

03:40:58.220 I will say this.

03:40:59.020 I will say this.

03:40:59.760 One thing I noticed about the whole trauma thing is that...

03:41:03.720 Let's talk about within the context of breakups.

03:41:07.220 When a dude gets...

03:41:08.440 Or when like...

03:41:09.580 When a girl... 1.00

03:41:10.700 Sorry. 0.97

03:41:11.140 When a guy gets either dumped or curved or rejected by a girl, he's like, I'm gonna fucking hit the gym. 0.83

03:41:18.700 That's what I do too. 0.98

03:41:19.740 And then when a girl gets dumped, when a girl gets dumped by a guy or some shit, it's like, ho-fez, boom. 0.98

03:41:27.040 Wow. 0.98

03:41:27.380 I disagree.

03:41:28.000 I disagree too.

03:41:29.200 Why would you disagree with that?

03:41:30.540 So many women try to better themselves. 1.00

03:41:33.200 I got into grad school.

03:41:34.040 I focused on myself.

03:41:35.240 I didn't sleep with anyone.

03:41:36.340 I got a great body.

03:41:39.020 I glowed up.

03:41:40.280 A lot of women like to immediately change their hair after a breakup. 1.00

03:41:43.500 We have a glow up.

03:41:44.640 That's what it's called.

03:41:45.380 It's called becoming a baddie.

03:41:46.980 Hold on, guys.

03:41:47.560 All right, we do have to get these Super Chats out of the way just so we can wrap up here pretty soon.

03:41:51.740 Okay, so we have...

03:41:53.720 Let's see.

03:41:54.760 Oh, really quick on...

03:41:55.880 Because this is what triggered this conversation once again.

03:41:58.420 Alto clef. 0.98

03:41:59.360 By the way, bass clef is better, dork. 0.98

03:42:01.620 Okay. 1.00

03:42:04.040 Fucking any music majors in the chat. 0.99

03:42:06.140 Hello? 0.99

03:42:06.540 Okay.

03:42:06.980 So, stuff like virginity.

03:42:10.640 Up until very recently, alto clef, TV, whatever the...

03:42:15.320 Okay.

03:42:15.520 Men and women valued sexual purity. 0.98

03:42:21.360 It's not until the 60s or so when that went out the window.

03:42:26.780 So, men throughout all human history have valued female innocence and female virginity.

03:42:35.080 And also, women have valued male virginity. 0.87

03:42:38.260 Here in the West, which up until very recently has been a Christian, Christian... 0.99

03:42:47.080 The West has been Christian. 1.00

03:42:52.820 Virginity has been valued in both genders. 0.86

03:42:54.680 So, I don't know what you're on about, but...

03:42:57.860 Okay, anyways.

03:42:59.360 M. Martin with the $50 soup chat.

03:43:00.940 Because of oxytocin and estrogen, the more partners you have adulterates your femininity. 1.00

03:43:05.040 It makes you more jaded, disconnected, pessimistic.

03:43:07.940 Trauma develops us.

03:43:09.060 It scars you.

03:43:10.280 That's how trauma acts through the filter of testosterone versus estrogen.

03:43:14.460 Okay.

03:43:14.600 This is all backed up by scientific studies and biology. 1.00

03:43:17.980 100% coming straight out of M. Martin's ass. 0.99

03:43:21.320 Thank you, M. Martin, for the $50 soup chat. 1.00

03:43:24.840 Yo, Zentience with the $50 soup chat, man.

03:43:26.620 Thank you.

03:43:26.940 Men focusing on body count is justifiably valid because we look at your lack of mental and moral fortitude. 0.99

03:43:32.760 That indiscriminate behavior shows she will lack virtuous conviction when it comes to us and our children slash family name. 0.99

03:43:40.920 Women represent... 1.00

03:43:41.560 Oh, I think this came in as a TTS.

03:43:43.260 Hey, Zentience.

03:43:43.800 Thank you, man.

03:43:44.440 I don't know if you're still in the chat, but shout out to you, dude.

03:43:46.300 You've been supporting us so much these past few shows.

03:43:48.920 Really appreciate all these soup chats, man. 0.99

03:43:50.780 You're fucking legends. 0.99

03:43:51.740 Thank you, Z. 1.00

03:43:53.300 Sean Jackson, $20 soup chat. 0.76

03:43:54.760 Ladies, you can be promiscuous. 1.00

03:43:55.880 Just understand that men don't want to commit to women like that, mainly because we can't trust that the kids are ours, plus committing to a known 304 lowers our status amongst other men. 0.85

03:44:07.180 I think one of the big things that men want out of life...

03:44:09.500 I don't know if a lot of people or I guess a lot of women know what men want. 1.00

03:44:16.680 And one of the big things men want is respect and status.

03:44:20.780 And if our buddy knows that we're dating a girl that's slept with a lot of people, like, that will lower our status. 0.92

03:44:30.020 I mean, just to add to one of the other things.

03:44:31.920 Wow, so you're not enough to just be yourself?

03:44:34.300 You have to have a woman, like, represent you?

03:44:37.280 What do you mean?

03:44:37.780 We're all seeking...

03:44:38.820 We all want to align with people that will...

03:44:41.820 Right, but if my man, like, fails and stuff, it doesn't make me feel like less of a woman.

03:44:46.620 Let me tell you another reason why women care about height. 1.00

03:44:49.880 It's not just an evolutionary biological thing because men who are taller or who are physically larger are more capable of protecting and providing for you.

03:44:58.540 It's also a bit of a...

03:45:00.420 There's a social component, too.

03:45:02.420 Women will perhaps be ridiculed, oh, you're with a shorter guy? 0.98

03:45:06.740 I don't think that's right, but they might be ridiculed by their female friends or they might be looked down upon. 0.82

03:45:11.440 So women are... 1.00

03:45:12.680 Just as much as men are going to look to align to men that will kind of bolster their status to a degree.

03:45:19.880 If a man has...

03:45:23.940 Actually, here's another thing.

03:45:26.000 Women typically need a cosign from their female friends. 1.00

03:45:30.020 I don't know if you guys can agree with this.

03:45:32.540 Women will seek advice from their female friends. 1.00

03:45:35.240 They want a cosign on a guy.

03:45:37.960 Whereas men, we don't need to go to our friends and be like, hey, what do you think of...

03:45:43.200 How do you know so much about women? 1.00

03:45:44.800 Women need... 1.00

03:45:45.420 You say women will do this, women will do that. 1.00

03:45:48.080 He's speaking facts.

03:45:49.680 Come on.

03:45:50.080 Okay, sir.

03:45:50.700 If you don't ask for any advice, you don't be like, hey, this is my girl.

03:45:54.460 Isn't she cute? 1.00

03:45:55.720 No, I don't talk.

03:45:56.860 And that's another difference between men and women.

03:45:59.120 You guys share a lot of intimate details with your girlfriends, whereas we don't share anything about our girl.

03:46:06.380 Nothing?

03:46:06.920 I disagree.

03:46:07.780 Yo, kid.

03:46:08.520 I would never...

03:46:09.320 Maybe just you.

03:46:09.500 With any of my guy friends, I would never... 1.00

03:46:11.320 Girls will disclose to even casual acquaintances the size of the dude's penis. 1.00

03:46:18.800 You guys will share fucking everything. 1.00

03:46:20.740 You guys are picking the lowest, worst fucking women you've interacted with and saying girls 1.00

03:46:27.400 will do this. 1.00

03:46:28.260 That is not true.

03:46:30.280 Women 100%, not 100%. 0.99

03:46:32.920 I never mocked somebody's penis size with my friends.

03:46:35.700 I'm not saying mock. 0.59

03:46:36.500 I'm saying women will disclose very, very, very intimate details about a new partner.

03:46:43.080 And guys, don't do that.

03:46:43.560 Guys show each other girlfriends nudes.

03:46:45.720 Like, are you kidding me? 0.99

03:46:47.220 I would never fucking show that. 0.98

03:46:48.580 With maturity, it's different, but, like, high school is so different. 0.99

03:46:51.720 I think it's a very immature man that would do that.

03:46:53.220 No, not man.

03:46:54.040 It's more a boy.

03:46:54.520 I think it's a very immature woman that would do that, too. 1.00

03:46:56.020 The amount of men that even tell their women friends about the girls that they've slept

03:47:00.300 with in full detail, what their insides feel like, how wet it was, all this stuff.

03:47:05.120 We're not telling them because we want validation.

03:47:12.940 We're not telling them because we want validation.

03:47:14.860 Then what do you want from telling other women or men about it?

03:47:17.320 We're not telling our friends about validation.

03:47:19.520 I've never told a girl.

03:47:20.780 There's a saying. 0.99

03:47:22.500 Do these pants make my butt look big? 0.98

03:47:24.360 Because you want that validation. 0.99

03:47:26.920 You need to know.

03:47:28.200 That's not about men.

03:47:29.440 It's not about men.

03:47:30.320 It's about women. 1.00

03:47:31.720 No, I can tell you right now, I can count on two hands, and I'm not exaggerating.

03:47:35.120 One bit, the amount of men that I've been friends with or that I've encountered in my 0.95

03:47:39.480 life that have talked about their sex life in full detail and women that they've fucked 0.86

03:47:43.740 and how they've fucked up and how it feels. 0.95

03:47:45.360 We're not looking for approval out of it. 0.99

03:47:47.120 And women aren't. 1.00

03:47:47.700 Does it matter?

03:47:48.780 If you talk to your girlfriends about-

03:47:50.480 Yo, let's ask the chat.

03:47:51.440 Hold on.

03:47:51.820 How many do we have in the chat here?

03:47:53.080 Okay, we have almost 700 people in the chat.

03:47:58.000 Okay, I don't know how I'm going to frame this, but one in the chat, if you have never

03:48:04.480 disclosed to a man or a woman-

03:48:07.840 Hold on.

03:48:10.400 Let me think I'm going to frame this.

03:48:12.560 Okay.

03:48:13.100 One in the chat, if you-

03:48:14.680 They're already going to probably start saying one.

03:48:16.400 One in the chat, if you've never disclosed to a male friend intimate details-

03:48:23.880 They're going to say whatever you say, buddy.

03:48:26.700 This isn't a proper way to do this. 1.00

03:48:29.300 I've had a man disclose to me intimate details about fucking a woman. 0.98

03:48:33.200 Just because you won't doesn't mean that other guys don't. 0.98

03:48:35.860 Just because I won't do it doesn't mean that other girls don't.

03:48:38.620 That's what I'm saying.

03:48:39.420 The exception-

03:48:40.240 I'm speaking the worst of the worst.

03:48:41.500 But I think he has a good general point.

03:48:44.100 The exception doesn't-

03:48:44.660 In general, my guy friends don't chat with their guy friends like I chat with my girlfriends.

03:48:50.440 In general, that's not the case with everybody, but I'd say that's a pretty valid point.

03:48:56.600 But I don't think girls are always asking for advice or validation.

03:49:01.120 There are times, yes, I have asked for validation, but there are also times where I just want

03:49:05.240 to talk about it because it's fine.

03:49:06.260 Yeah, you just want to chat, yeah.

03:49:08.060 But if one of your girlfriends tells you, oh, he's kind of weird or something, it's done.

03:49:19.960 It's done, whereas I'm not-

03:49:21.400 And you don't keep that in your mind.

03:49:22.900 How do you get that?

03:49:24.020 There's prison conless. 0.53

03:49:25.940 If any girl says, oh, I don't like him, we had a weird interaction five years ago, you

03:49:31.940 will keep that in your mind permanently.

03:49:34.000 Absolutely.

03:49:35.080 Diane's actually encouraged me multiple times to give guys a second chance.

03:49:40.520 See?

03:49:40.940 Okay, but has she ever told you, stay away from that guy's no good?

03:49:49.800 Yeah.

03:49:50.760 What if he wasn't any good?

03:49:52.160 Well, then that's totally valid, but men, we don't really need a co-sign.

03:49:59.240 For example, if we're going to go home with a girl or something, I don't go to bars, I

03:50:03.220 don't go to clubs, I don't drink, occasionally I'll have a beer or whatever once, maybe three

03:50:07.940 times a year I'll have one beer.

03:50:09.180 I don't drink.

03:50:09.680 But if a guy's at the club with his boys and there's a girl he's talking to, he doesn't

03:50:16.360 need to check with his male friends and get the co-sign.

03:50:20.940 I know men that do.

03:50:22.180 I've never thought of men that do.

03:50:23.440 It's not for a co-sign, it's to brag.

03:50:28.060 Not always.

03:50:28.580 Not really.

03:50:29.820 We're not looking for a co-sign. 0.98

03:50:31.040 We're looking, we're like, we're showing our, the size of our balls basically. 0.99

03:50:36.840 While you women are like, should I go home with him? 1.00

03:50:40.240 Hey, do you think this guy's cute when you go to the bathroom?

03:50:42.040 Hey, should I go home with him?

03:50:43.580 Yeah.

03:50:43.780 And if they say no, there's a very good chance that you will not go home with him.

03:50:48.200 That's a good point.

03:50:48.700 So you're basically saying that if, if your guys, if you're out with your guys and you're

03:50:57.940 talking to a girl and you're feeling her, right?

03:51:00.240 And you're going to take her home and the guys are like, oh man, I don't know if you

03:51:03.880 should do that, kid. 1.00

03:51:04.760 You're going to be like, dude, shut the fuck up. 1.00

03:51:06.780 What the fuck are you talking about? 1.00

03:51:07.760 But if the girlfriends say, I don't know, Becky. 0.99

03:51:10.080 I think it also comes from a safety precaution on our end too.

03:51:13.380 Because I'm not going to let my friend go home with somebody that see, that deems. 0.99

03:51:17.780 Throw the protection out, throw the safety out the window.

03:51:20.660 Absolutely not.

03:51:21.120 Women. 0.81

03:51:21.840 We're talking about the looks and looks alone. 1.00

03:51:23.880 Women cock block like a motherfucker. 1.00

03:51:25.500 Is he cute enough to go home with? 1.00

03:51:27.340 We're talking about looks.

03:51:28.260 We're not talking about safety.

03:51:29.280 Is he good looking enough for you to go home with him?

03:51:31.400 But as a female, you always have to take safety.

03:51:33.180 We're not talking about that.

03:51:34.320 We're not talking about that.

03:51:35.060 That can be an entire different conversation by itself.

03:51:37.580 It all is factored in.

03:51:38.940 It all is factored in.

03:51:39.680 If you're talking about, if you cater to looks and only looks, if this discussion

03:51:43.260 is about the looks, if the girl says, hey, babe, I don't think he's good looking enough

03:51:48.340 for you, you're going to take that into consideration.

03:51:50.340 And you might not go home with him because of what your girlfriend thinks.

03:51:53.660 That has never once happened to me.

03:51:55.820 I mean, just now.

03:51:56.780 How old are you?

03:51:57.740 19.

03:51:58.320 Have you been clubbing yet?

03:52:01.160 Yeah.

03:52:01.960 You've been to the clubs in LA?

03:52:04.480 You don't have to go to clubs in LA.

03:52:05.300 I'm from Minnesota.

03:52:06.800 Minnesota.

03:52:07.580 It happens a lot.

03:52:09.340 I don't think I have an accent at all.

03:52:11.060 Okay.

03:52:11.580 I've been to the clubs in LA and I've never once asked for any of my girlfriend's approvals

03:52:15.080 on looks.

03:52:15.640 I've never needed to do that.

03:52:16.860 I've never asked.

03:52:17.320 They're giving.

03:52:18.000 Okay.

03:52:18.260 Well, I feel like we're getting away from, I don't even know what the original conversational

03:52:22.960 thread was.

03:52:23.580 But I think it was something about the cosine and I don't remember.

03:52:31.480 Let's just continue with the soup chats.

03:52:33.480 Okay.

03:52:34.600 Let's see.

03:52:35.160 Did we do this one?

03:52:36.640 Wait.

03:52:37.100 Did we do this one?

03:52:39.320 Oh.

03:52:39.680 Yeah.

03:52:40.180 Yeah.

03:52:40.280 Okay.

03:52:41.080 Sean Jackson, $20 soup chat. 0.81

03:52:42.460 Ladies, you can be promiscuous. 1.00

03:52:43.620 Just understand that.

03:52:44.560 I think I did this one, right?

03:52:45.800 Yeah.

03:52:46.200 Yeah.

03:52:46.420 Yeah.

03:52:46.660 Okay.

03:52:48.100 Arnold Muge.

03:52:50.560 Okay.

03:52:51.100 Cool.

03:52:52.340 $20 soup chat.

03:52:53.580 Would you rather date a guy who is broke but you knew would be rich and a much better

03:52:57.720 man in five years or date a man that is already rich and has already worked on himself to be

03:53:01.900 better and why?

03:53:02.640 That's a good question.

03:53:05.000 Really quick, just quick response from everybody on this.

03:53:08.300 Go ahead.

03:53:09.560 The first one.

03:53:10.540 I'd rather build.

03:53:13.180 I don't.

03:53:13.700 I mean.

03:53:13.940 Into the mic.

03:53:15.020 I guess the first one.

03:53:16.060 I don't really care.

03:53:17.840 Probably the first one.

03:53:19.260 I mean, if he's already good, then the second one.

03:53:21.240 Um, the first one.

03:53:25.380 I've been on both ends of the spectrum, but I would rather with the first.

03:53:28.760 Got it.

03:53:29.600 Yo, Chaz with the big $20 soup chat.

03:53:33.560 By the way, um, wait, if you were interested in a guy, how would you let him know that you're

03:53:37.080 interested?

03:53:37.360 By the way, guys, Chaz has been helping us out with the timestamps.

03:53:40.960 He's probably doing it right now.

03:53:42.540 Yo, W's in the chat for Chaz.

03:53:44.160 I want to see W's in the chat for him.

03:53:46.100 He's killing it with the timestamps.

03:53:48.060 Thank you, man.

03:53:51.340 Appreciate you, dude.

03:53:52.280 Okay.

03:53:52.780 Uh, if you're interested in a guy, how would you let him know that you're interested?

03:53:58.900 Just going around?

03:53:59.480 Let's start.

03:53:59.660 Let's start over here on this side.

03:54:00.820 So we.

03:54:02.040 Uh, I mean, straightforward.

03:54:03.920 I don't think, I think it's best not to beat around the bush.

03:54:08.680 Okay.

03:54:09.060 So how would you do that then?

03:54:11.200 How would you not beat around the bush?

03:54:12.660 Let's say you see a guy.

03:54:13.880 Oh, go ahead.

03:54:14.160 You see a guy at the club.

03:54:15.240 He's like, that's hot.

03:54:16.660 He's, that's hot.

03:54:17.520 He's hot.

03:54:19.000 That's hot. 0.89

03:54:20.520 Parasitic.

03:54:23.060 How are you going to let him know that you're interested?

03:54:26.000 Are you just going to look at him for two seconds and then never look at him again the rest

03:54:28.780 of the night?

03:54:29.260 Because I feel like that's how a lot of women convey their interest. 1.00

03:54:32.380 I guess it's situational.

03:54:34.100 I don't, I would probably go off my instinct and how I felt in the moment.

03:54:38.480 Probably go up to him and approach him, introduce myself.

03:54:40.520 I don't know.

03:54:41.300 Okay.

03:54:42.620 Um, I feel like if I saw someone.

03:54:44.460 Scoot the microphone that way. 0.90

03:54:45.800 If I saw someone in a club, um, I feel like I would give them like some eyes and then they

03:54:52.640 would come over.

03:54:53.560 Oh, okay.

03:54:55.320 I feel like I would make eye contact first and see if he's also reciprocating and then

03:54:59.920 I would just ask for his name.

03:55:01.000 Um, yeah, I agree with that.

03:55:03.460 Just like see if they look interested because I feel like guys are always doing that thing

03:55:07.480 where they're like scanning and then if they are like walk up and just have a normal conversation

03:55:12.260 and then read it from there.

03:55:13.520 You're going to walk up?

03:55:14.860 Yeah.

03:55:15.300 Okay.

03:55:15.520 I've done it before.

03:55:16.140 She can confirm.

03:55:17.140 You saw me do it.

03:55:18.580 Yeah.

03:55:19.900 Um, I like to be pretty bold with it.

03:55:21.740 If I like it, you're going to know.

03:55:23.640 Um, really?

03:55:24.260 Like at the state fair, how I met the guy I'm talking to right now.

03:55:27.880 It wasn't through mutual friends.

03:55:30.100 I saw him.

03:55:31.200 At the state fair?

03:55:31.980 At the state fair.

03:55:33.140 Yes, sir.

03:55:33.600 I saw him and I walked up to him and we just started talking and that was it.

03:55:38.600 Wow.

03:55:40.280 More women should do that. 1.00

03:55:41.520 More women should do that. 1.00

03:55:42.420 Yeah, props.

03:55:42.540 Hell yeah.

03:55:43.040 Good for you.

03:55:44.100 Good for you.

03:55:44.580 Um, so wait, let's, let's role play.

03:55:48.440 Pretend I'm a, what's his name?

03:55:50.380 Cornelius.

03:55:50.980 Okay.

03:55:51.180 Pretend I'm Cornelius.

03:55:52.020 Oh, Jake.

03:55:52.900 Yep.

03:55:53.840 You would go for a Jake.

03:55:55.240 Okay.

03:55:56.940 Would you go for a Chaz? 0.96

03:55:59.600 That's a gangster name.

03:56:00.880 What?

03:56:01.460 How dare you?

03:56:02.960 I want you to apologize to Chaz. 1.00

03:56:05.220 Say sorry.

03:56:06.820 Okay.

03:56:07.240 Um, I'm Jake.

03:56:09.000 Is he a white guy?

03:56:10.980 How tall is he?

03:56:12.640 Six foot.

03:56:13.760 Okay.

03:56:15.200 And he pays for $200 sushi dates.

03:56:16.940 Okay.

03:56:17.540 So let's do a reenactment.

03:56:20.300 What did you, precisely, what did you do?

03:56:22.900 His friends were walking.

03:56:24.120 Wait, hold on.

03:56:24.820 We're going to stand up for this.

03:56:26.180 Get out.

03:56:26.360 Do you have a cowboy hat?

03:56:27.540 Yeah.

03:56:27.900 Do you have a cowboy hat?

03:56:28.920 Cause you kind of need that.

03:56:29.860 He seems more like a, uh, he seems more like a trilby type of guy.

03:56:34.960 He's a cowboy hat guy.

03:56:36.080 Yo, what's up?

03:56:36.680 I'm Jake.

03:56:37.640 Oh, he's a cowboy hat?

03:56:38.820 Yeah.

03:56:40.480 So you like them country boys.

03:56:42.380 I do like my country boys.

03:56:43.740 I don't have, I don't have a cowboy hat.

03:56:45.380 That's a little better.

03:56:45.900 That is more like, that's a little better.

03:56:47.100 That's more in the style.

03:56:48.000 Yeah.

03:56:48.520 Yeah.

03:56:48.880 That's a little better.

03:56:51.200 Okay.

03:56:52.260 Go.

03:56:53.120 Well, we're sitting down.

03:56:54.200 I know, but just let's stay seated.

03:56:55.840 So his friends walking this way.

03:56:59.160 I'm walking this way with my friends.

03:57:00.760 I see him.

03:57:01.560 I stop.

03:57:02.700 And I just walked up to him and his friends and we just hit it off, you know?

03:57:10.080 Well, okay.

03:57:11.000 Hold on.

03:57:12.100 Well, okay.

03:57:14.020 You walked up.

03:57:15.960 Well, first off, I give you props for doing that.

03:57:18.120 So what did you say?

03:57:23.240 Hi.

03:57:24.940 That's it.

03:57:25.600 That's all it takes.

03:57:27.520 I think he actually said something.

03:57:29.900 Girls.

03:57:29.920 That actually happens a lot.

03:57:32.420 Well, I was, I was going to say girls have dating on easy mode, but okay. 0.95

03:57:35.840 So, so, okay.

03:57:37.360 You walked up, you just said hi, and then he carried the rest of the conversation.

03:57:40.700 I'm assuming.

03:57:41.220 Not necessarily.

03:57:43.720 I think, you know, how it usually goes, hi, what's your name?

03:57:48.320 You know, where are you from?

03:57:49.440 Snapchat, whatever.

03:57:51.040 Wait, question.

03:57:51.900 So had you spotted him before and then like you, you set it up in such a way that you would

03:57:58.100 cross paths?

03:57:58.980 No, I literally saw him.

03:57:59.860 You saw him?

03:58:00.280 As he was walking by, just beelined. 1.00

03:58:03.180 No shit. 0.99

03:58:04.320 When you, like, when you get a feeling, you get a feeling, I have to go for it. 0.99

03:58:08.440 Hey, I give you props for that.

03:58:09.880 How long has it been?

03:58:10.240 I give you props.

03:58:11.220 A little under a month.

03:58:12.360 It's very new.

03:58:13.120 That's a yikes though.

03:58:13.900 Well, I met him, I met him in August, but we've just started to hang out.

03:58:18.340 It's not long distance is not, especially.

03:58:21.280 I wouldn't say it's long distance because we're not.

03:58:23.400 She lives in, he lives in Minnesota.

03:58:25.340 We're not in a relationship yet.

03:58:27.020 We're just talking.

03:58:28.120 And honestly, I think this is like.

03:58:29.400 Are you entertaining other options right now?

03:58:30.980 No.

03:58:31.500 Okay.

03:58:31.780 Well, I mean, you are in, you are leading to what will inevitably.

03:58:36.840 A long distance situationship at the moment, right?

03:58:38.660 It will inevitably, inevitably be a long distance relationship if it does come to that.

03:58:45.700 He's in Minnesota.

03:58:46.700 You're in California.

03:58:48.040 For now.

03:58:50.020 He's going to move here?

03:58:51.020 Not necessarily, but it's not going to, the long distance part of it would be pretty

03:58:57.300 short, but.

03:58:58.640 How?

03:58:59.580 You're going to drop out of UCSP?

03:59:01.880 Not saying that.

03:59:03.200 Just for reasons I'm not going to comment on, but.

03:59:06.520 He's got a private jet.

03:59:07.600 Hello?

03:59:07.780 I mean, he is flying out, like, I've known him, I've really known him for, no, for like

03:59:14.280 two weeks.

03:59:16.000 Okay.

03:59:16.640 But then he goes back to Minnesota for a couple months.

03:59:19.660 And then I go back to Minnesota, so it's really not that long that we're not seeing

03:59:23.060 each other.

03:59:23.840 And honestly.

03:59:25.120 That's a long distance relationship.

03:59:26.700 I think, I honestly see this as beneficial because, you know, when you're in that, like,

03:59:32.700 honeymoon bubble, like, stage with someone, it's really easy to be infatuated with their

03:59:38.240 looks and, you know, the physical aspect of it.

03:59:42.140 I just have to rely on his personality.

03:59:44.140 You know, he calls me every day.

03:59:45.960 He's hyped me up.

03:59:47.040 He still gives me attention.

03:59:48.420 He's around for the right reasons.

03:59:50.160 Okay, but when you saw him, you did not walk up to him and introduce yourself and beeline

03:59:57.460 for him because of his personality.

03:59:59.700 I didn't know him yet.

04:00:01.140 Right.

04:00:01.700 So, but you.

04:00:02.520 Physical attraction is important.

04:00:03.760 Okay.

04:00:04.000 But that was the basis for, you walked up to him because I'm assuming you being so overt

04:00:11.060 like that, you found him to be exceptionally attractive.

04:00:14.760 Absolutely.

04:00:16.000 Okay.

04:00:16.880 Well, so the physical attraction is already established.

04:00:20.160 Yeah, but you wouldn't say that, like, when you're in the honeymoon stage with a girl,

04:00:24.460 like, you don't get carried away with, like, I don't know, you like them so much because

04:00:29.400 they're right there, like, y'all can, like, cuddle and whatever.

04:00:34.020 When you just have to rely on personality, it really, like, puts the connection to the test.

04:00:39.780 Oh, so talking and not having sex.

04:00:42.520 Cade, what do you think about that?

04:00:44.580 I'm actually kind of sort of talking to somebody on the other side of the country right now.

04:00:48.220 He is not going to back you up.

04:00:51.540 Okay.

04:00:51.940 That's fine.

04:00:52.600 That's fine.

04:00:53.240 Well, she's a, she's a, she's a unicorn. 0.99

04:00:55.760 She's a, she's the unicorn. 0.87

04:00:57.360 Is Jake your unicorn?

04:00:58.560 Is he your unicorn?

04:00:59.880 I don't know, but he's pretty cute.

04:01:01.240 You beelined for him, so me.

04:01:02.520 I did beelined for him.

04:01:04.180 But I do think it is important to test that physical, the physical part of the relationship.

04:01:12.300 It is important.

04:01:13.620 Yeah.

04:01:14.180 Like, you might, how long did you hang out in person before you left?

04:01:19.860 Like, two weeks.

04:01:20.800 Did you hook up?

04:01:21.840 Have you guys had sex? 0.90

04:01:23.240 No comment. 0.83

04:01:24.440 That's a yes.

04:01:24.840 That's a yes.

04:01:25.540 So, yeah, I, that's a yes.

04:01:27.720 Yes.

04:01:28.180 As long as you, as long as you see that works out.

04:01:30.880 Yo, can we get some W's in the chat for Jake? 0.99

04:01:32.900 Fucking good job, dude. 0.99

04:01:34.080 Yeah. 1.00

04:01:34.280 Jake is going to be listening to this and he's like, fuck yeah. 0.99

04:01:36.500 He's watching, Link. 0.99

04:01:37.760 Yo, Jake the Chad.

04:01:39.820 Okay.

04:01:40.120 Jake's a legend.

04:01:40.960 That's funny.

04:01:41.420 Don't nobody go through her Instagram and find the Jake.

04:01:43.860 Oh, Jesus.

04:01:44.860 Aw.

04:01:47.440 Wait.

04:01:47.920 So, okay.

04:01:48.320 Long distance, long distance relationships are L's, I think. 0.99

04:01:55.300 Yeah, I agree, but.

04:01:56.780 You're in a long distance, not even.

04:01:59.320 Sometimes it's worth it, you know.

04:02:01.080 My first relationship started long distance and it ended up being three and a half years.

04:02:04.780 Right.

04:02:05.080 Where is he now? 0.99

04:02:07.060 Better off in the trash. 0.98

04:02:08.300 Okay. 0.83

04:02:08.800 Well, there you go.

04:02:09.760 It's just like.

04:02:11.300 So, but do you feel that you wasted time? 1.00

04:02:15.660 Oh, shit. 0.99

04:02:15.980 They actually found him. 1.00

04:02:16.860 No, I don't think.

04:02:17.700 Did they find him already?

04:02:21.060 Rip.

04:02:21.620 RIP in the chat.

04:02:22.820 Wait, do you.

04:02:23.480 Internet detectives.

04:02:24.280 Did you tell him that you're going on this?

04:02:25.880 Yeah, he's probably watching.

04:02:27.820 Yo, W's in the chat.

04:02:29.060 We just love it now.

04:02:30.220 W's in the chat.

04:02:31.360 That was fast, too.

04:02:32.160 Oh, my God.

04:02:33.440 Under 60 seconds.

04:02:34.940 Wow.

04:02:36.260 Oh, Jesus.

04:02:37.240 Okay.

04:02:37.480 You see why I don't give out personal information?

04:02:40.860 Cyber security.

04:02:42.540 The name.

04:02:43.300 We should have said.

04:02:44.700 We should have said John.

04:02:45.880 We should have said.

04:02:46.460 We should have said Chaz. 1.00

04:02:48.980 We should have said Chaz. 1.00

04:02:50.360 Wait, so you guys committed to each other?

04:02:54.120 Oh, my God.

04:02:54.560 I mean, I'm not talking to anybody else.

04:02:56.600 He's not talking to anybody else.

04:02:58.000 He told you that?

04:02:58.720 That's an expectation, yeah.

04:03:00.620 Well, did you overtly have that conversation?

04:03:03.020 Mm-hmm.

04:03:03.280 Oh, you guys are.

04:03:05.440 I mean, that's a long-distance relationship.

04:03:07.480 But we're not in a relationship yet.

04:03:09.800 You guys are committed to each other.

04:03:12.240 Yeah, but when I'm talking to someone.

04:03:14.040 You had a conversation.

04:03:14.500 Would you say talking to someone is in a relationship?

04:03:17.100 I don't talk to multiple people at once.

04:03:18.080 I mean, I think.

04:03:18.700 Beginning stage of it.

04:03:19.540 But I think if you've had a conversation about exclusivity, there is. . .

04:03:24.440 I feel like people are just unwilling to put labels on things nowadays because they want

04:03:28.640 to keep their options open.

04:03:29.380 That will actually end a relationship if you want to put a label on it too fast.

04:03:33.800 Yeah, I agree.

04:03:34.780 Which is really sad.

04:03:36.020 But I think you have to feel the personality and get to know them first.

04:03:39.580 So that's. . .

04:03:40.260 Let's say you want, like, hey, I want to be exclusive with you.

04:03:43.240 If you ask to be exclusive too quick, that will give the girl the ick. 0.90

04:03:47.600 Oh, God.

04:03:50.260 Okay, so you just went up to Jake.

04:03:52.300 You said hi.

04:03:53.480 Wait, can I ask you guys a question?

04:03:55.180 Semi-related to this.

04:03:56.500 So a lot of you said that you have initiated with guys.

04:04:00.100 You've gone up to guys.

04:04:01.880 You know, you made the first move, right?

04:04:03.380 What was your success rate for when you initiated?

04:04:10.120 We'll start. . .

04:04:11.780 We'll start over here and move this way.

04:04:13.260 Wait, like, what's, like, success?

04:04:14.560 Yeah, so, like, let's say you go up to a guy and. . .

04:04:17.300 I'm not saying it ends up in a marriage.

04:04:19.920 Did you get turned down?

04:04:20.660 Did you get turned down?

04:04:21.400 Like, what was your success rate?

04:04:22.740 Like, did you get the number?

04:04:24.100 Did he get the. . .

04:04:24.680 Like, whatever.

04:04:25.460 Did it lead. . .

04:04:28.240 Basically, was it a. . .

04:04:30.200 You didn't get turned down.

04:04:31.160 Like, you didn't get rejected.

04:04:32.000 We'll start over here.

04:04:33.380 Go ahead.

04:04:33.940 I don't remember a time that somebody said no or anything like that

04:04:37.520 or been overtly, like, I don't recall a time that I've overtly had an experience

04:04:43.000 where it's been negative or someone was like, oh, don't talk to me

04:04:45.800 or, oh, I'm not interested.

04:04:46.720 It doesn't have to be rude, just like the guy.

04:04:48.440 It could be a polite rejection.

04:04:49.880 Never?

04:04:50.860 Not that I can think of him at the top of my head.

04:04:52.100 But you have approached, made the initiative?

04:04:54.660 Okay.

04:04:54.960 Yeah, absolutely.

04:04:55.360 So 100% success rate?

04:04:56.740 So far, yeah.

04:04:57.320 Go ahead.

04:04:58.380 I don't feel like I make the first move that often.

04:05:01.800 But when I have, yeah, I've never been turned down.

04:05:04.140 Never been rejected.

04:05:06.000 My only rejection was a Spanish dude who had a girlfriend.

04:05:10.860 And he didn't speak any English.

04:05:12.280 I don't think that counts.

04:05:12.720 I'm talking, like, if the guy's single.

04:05:15.660 Okay.

04:05:16.200 He's just like, oh, sorry, I'm not into it.

04:05:17.600 Yeah.

04:05:17.840 Because, of course, if you're going to get, well, it's not a given if he has a partner

04:05:23.420 that you might get rejected.

04:05:24.620 But you're more, yeah, you're going to get rejected if he has a partner.

04:05:28.340 What about you?

04:05:29.220 I've only done it, like, twice.

04:05:30.640 But I'm two for two, like, in terms of success.

04:05:33.380 Okay.

04:05:34.140 What about you?

04:05:34.800 I've been rejected before.

04:05:36.820 Wow.

04:05:37.360 That's shocking.

04:05:39.220 It was the sixth grade, though.

04:05:41.240 Okay.

04:05:41.460 That doesn't count.

04:05:43.560 I don't think that counts.

04:05:44.500 I went for it, though.

04:05:45.160 I seriously went for it.

04:05:46.380 He was like, nah.

04:05:48.000 I don't think that counts.

04:05:49.720 But what about excluding that one, have you ever been rejected?

04:05:56.400 No, I guess.

04:05:59.340 No, I don't think so.

04:06:01.240 Okay.

04:06:02.380 Kate, have you ever been rejected?

04:06:04.520 Oh, plenty of times.

04:06:05.860 But the funny thing is, if a girl goes and does that to me, let's say at the club, 1.00

04:06:11.460 because that happens to me, like, more than you'd think, some of the girls come up, you

04:06:17.380 exchange, hi, what's your name?

04:06:19.080 I'm Kate.

04:06:19.720 What's yours?

04:06:20.580 Within 10 seconds, we'll just start making out with you. 1.00

04:06:22.960 You cannot do that as a man.

04:06:25.060 A man cannot just start randomly, go up to a girl he likes and just starts kissing.

04:06:29.740 Even if you didn't want to kiss her in the first place, it's just going to happen. 0.99

04:06:33.700 And I feel awkward in that moment to push her off and be rude because I don't want to be looking like a dick. 0.89

04:06:40.920 Regardless, if I'm not interested in you, I don't really know how to handle that situation. 0.99

04:06:46.100 I'm not going to be like, get the fuck off of me. 0.95

04:06:48.280 Right. 0.99

04:06:48.360 I just bite my tongue and then disappear as fast as I can if I'm not interested.

04:06:55.540 But men can't do that.

04:06:57.420 What would you say your, because I think every single girl here said they have 100% success rate, basically. 1.00

04:07:04.480 What would you say your, like, on approach, your success rate is?

04:07:09.900 Probably 25%.

04:07:11.080 25%.

04:07:11.360 25%.

04:07:12.000 Yeah, honestly, top tier guys, like, I think a good percentage is like 10%, 20%.

04:07:20.160 Like, I think that's a good.

04:07:21.380 Yeah, 20, 25%.

04:07:22.420 That's a good percentage.

04:07:24.400 So, me personally, I think women have dating on recruit mode. 1.00

04:07:30.640 You guys have dating on easy mode.

04:07:33.760 I'm on realism mode out here.

04:07:35.420 There you go.

04:07:36.200 But I will go around the table on this.

04:07:38.000 Maybe you guys disagree with us.

04:07:39.240 Do you think dating is harder for men or for women?

04:07:43.440 100% harder for men.

04:07:46.160 I guess men have it harder in some ways.

04:07:48.120 You guess.

04:07:49.180 Okay.

04:07:49.740 I think it depends on what you're looking at.

04:07:51.600 Like, it's easier.

04:07:52.700 It's easier for women to pull guys for sure. 1.00

04:07:55.460 But I also, like, don't think you guys have ever had to take a picture of a man's ID and put your location on so you don't get ax murdered.

04:08:02.160 So, it's like, that's, well, that's not really the question.

04:08:05.460 But it's like, the quality of the men is, like, potentially lower.

04:08:10.640 So, like, you guys are pulling, but you're not like, is she going to murder me?

04:08:13.420 Who knows?

04:08:14.220 I mean, we have other concerns.

04:08:16.300 But I think, I mean, most, most dating experiences, they might not always be always pleasant.

04:08:24.980 But, I mean, that's, if we're talking about cherry picking here, most women do not get murdered in a dating context. 0.99

04:08:32.260 But one out of three gets raped.

04:08:33.220 Well, if we're talking statistics, I think that statistic has been debunked.

04:08:40.600 I don't really feel like debating it.

04:08:42.560 But that statistic has been debunked.

04:08:44.980 And the woman who did the study came out herself and said that it was wrong.

04:08:53.280 One in three women have been. 0.99

04:08:54.800 How about we settle this right now?

04:08:56.280 At the table.

04:08:56.660 Out of, like, all of us, like, the people in our lives, like, most women I know have a story.

04:09:01.720 So, those technically, with that being said, there should be at least one, two, three, four, five, six.

04:09:06.060 If it's one and three.

04:09:07.080 There should be two of you with a situation. 0.54

04:09:10.420 Who've raped? 0.90

04:09:13.120 So, what do you constitute as rape? 0.97

04:09:17.320 Like, inside penetration.

04:09:20.840 Not a regret situation.

04:09:22.760 No.

04:09:23.160 Oh, no.

04:09:23.960 Oh, God.

04:09:25.040 Violent.

04:09:26.040 Something that was not consensual.

04:09:30.500 Okay.

04:09:32.500 All right.

04:09:33.100 See, that's what I mean.

04:09:34.180 We're just worried about getting murdered.

04:09:35.700 It's a very real concern.

04:09:37.640 Well, if you want to hear a statistic.

04:09:40.480 Yes, I reported it.

04:09:42.040 You reported it?

04:09:42.840 They're asking if we reported it.

04:09:44.740 Oh, okay.

04:09:45.140 So, I'm just letting them know.

04:09:45.920 Yeah.

04:09:46.300 I mean, you're talking about...

04:09:50.060 I don't really want to go down the rabbit hole on this.

04:09:53.220 Okay.

04:09:53.500 So, I guess the question was, do you think dating is easier for men or women?

04:09:58.220 You say...

04:09:59.220 It's easier for women to pull, but there's more concerns for women with the people that 1.00

04:10:03.960 they do pull.

04:10:04.380 So, I will give you that.

04:10:08.720 That women have more safety... 1.00

04:10:12.720 Quantity over quality.

04:10:13.800 Women have more safety concerns when it comes to dating. 1.00

04:10:17.260 But that's not really the question.

04:10:18.820 Because if the question was, is interacting with the opposite sex... 0.68

04:10:23.920 Who has dating easier?

04:10:24.860 It's who has dating easier?

04:10:26.260 Right.

04:10:26.560 I think that there's, like, different sides to it, you know?

04:10:30.040 But also, like, what qualifies as dating?

04:10:31.960 Like, just going on dates?

04:10:33.120 Like, yeah, women can get more dates, but the quality of men that I want to be in a relationship

04:10:37.080 with, I think that's less than...

04:10:39.720 It's also the same problem for men, too.

04:10:42.140 Sounds like we have a lot of the same issues.

04:10:44.920 What do you think?

04:10:46.140 I think men have it harder.

04:10:47.940 What about you?

04:10:48.800 I definitely think I agree with both these two ladies.

04:10:51.500 It is quality over quantity, and I think that there is a plethora of men to be able to

04:10:57.540 go on dates with, but very few that are relationship quality from my personal perspective.

04:11:03.080 Eric, can you pull up the cartoon really quick?

04:11:05.900 The sad thing is the guys that are good boyfriend quality are probably still stuck in your DMs

04:11:11.240 and you don't give them a chance.

04:11:13.680 But are they worthy of chances?

04:11:15.660 They probably are, but you'll never know because you won't open their DMs.

04:11:19.460 The comic book cartoon, do you remember it?

04:11:22.000 It's already in the window tab.

04:11:23.700 It's not what you say.

04:11:24.740 It's how you say it.

04:11:25.500 That's what I always say.

04:11:26.040 Yeah.

04:11:27.180 So, I mean, this is kind of like what I think about.

04:11:31.680 Like, I'm so lonely, but you have, like, all these dudes that would...

04:11:38.040 See, I don't know the specific details on the situation, but there was a woman who started 0.96

04:11:41.720 a dating profile on one of these big apps and pretended that she was a man, used man pictures,

04:11:47.120 went for men just to see how it was for the men.

04:11:51.520 And she got ghosted.

04:11:53.360 She got disrespected.

04:11:54.400 She would get extremely rude women just attacking her for no reason. 1.00

04:11:59.520 And that's the reality as a man.

04:12:00.920 Whether you're a low-value man or a high-value man, you will still get extremely disrespected.

04:12:06.520 You will still get ghosted.

04:12:07.900 And it is extremely hard.

04:12:09.420 Even as somebody who considers himself a high-value man, you don't even get your chance to show

04:12:13.460 them whether you are high-value or not.

04:12:15.960 They'll just write you off.

04:12:17.740 I fully agree with this.

04:12:19.160 The men that I've talked to in my life that are trying to date right now, especially on

04:12:23.080 dating apps, are having such low success rates.

04:12:25.760 And it's like, actually, I'm seeing them emotionally deteriorate because of it.

04:12:30.540 Because they're just like, I want a partner.

04:12:33.000 I want somebody solid in my life.

04:12:36.300 And I can't find the right person.

04:12:38.140 I'm swiping all day.

04:12:39.100 Nobody's responding.

04:12:40.160 I have no idea what I'm doing wrong.

04:12:41.720 I'm updating my pictures.

04:12:43.140 I'm working out.

04:12:44.040 And it is way harder for men just how it's set up right now, I think.

04:12:48.580 It's really tough.

04:12:49.720 Well, I don't even use dating apps.

04:12:51.220 And I just use Instagram because Instagram is the greatest dating app in the world.

04:12:54.120 It's kind of like a dating app.

04:12:55.300 Instagram is the greatest dating app in the world.

04:12:57.060 And if you have your profile set up very well, and, I mean, anybody in the chat can go take

04:13:01.380 a look and see what they think of my account.

04:13:03.380 But, like, I'd say I have a pretty good-looking account.

04:13:06.520 And I'll still get ghosted.

04:13:09.460 I'll still get completely disrespected, regardless of the way I look, regardless of my success

04:13:15.360 level.

04:13:16.140 They don't care.

04:13:17.360 It's kind of crazy, to be honest.

04:13:19.320 Eric, can you pull up the hypergamy charts in the infographics thing?

04:13:23.380 And so, oh, wow.

04:13:26.940 That was quick.

04:13:27.920 Were you already pulling it up, Eric?

04:13:29.520 You told me to get something from that.

04:13:31.520 Oh, okay.

04:13:32.220 Got it.

04:13:32.980 Yeah.

04:13:33.260 So, I mean, this kind of explains what's happening in the dating marketplace right now.

04:13:38.600 So, on the left, you have whom men would happily partner with, and on the right, you have whom

04:13:46.120 women would happily partner with. 0.94

04:13:48.880 And this kind of goes back to that video that we were looking at, is women are chasing after

04:13:53.560 the top percentage of men.

04:13:55.200 And we see this playing out on the dating apps, for example.

04:13:57.740 You mentioned the dating apps.

04:13:58.800 So, women want the best man that they can get. 1.00

04:14:02.640 Those men have all the options.

04:14:04.800 They're not going to commit to you.

04:14:06.540 And the rest of the men, average men, the bottom 70% of men are severely struggling with

04:14:13.780 dating.

04:14:14.540 When it comes to dating apps, it's even more amplified because it's almost strictly physical

04:14:20.260 appearance.

04:14:20.760 And women are going to start, are going to gravitate towards the most attractive men.

04:14:27.200 Women tend to date across, this is backed up by statistics, women date across and up

04:14:32.120 socioeconomic hierarchies.

04:14:34.200 We sort of talked about this with finances before.

04:14:37.160 Women, generally speaking, want to date a guy who makes at least as much or more than 0.91

04:14:42.200 them.

04:14:43.400 And men will date down, or sorry, down, across and down. 0.54

04:14:48.020 Sorry, I'm butchering my words here.

04:14:49.740 But, sorry, I didn't mean, were you going on something?

04:14:55.080 No, just about how it is actually way more difficult for men.

04:14:58.320 Oh, the dating apps.

04:14:59.020 Yeah, I mean, my advice to average men is get off the dating apps because, oh yeah, don't

04:15:03.380 use the dating app.

04:15:04.360 It's just going to make you more depressed.

04:15:06.160 And also get off the forums.

04:15:08.040 There are just these forums for men right now where they talk about the inability to get

04:15:14.260 women. 0.81

04:15:15.100 And I think that, I think conversations like this are productive.

04:15:17.880 I think talking to other women, getting their voices heard, and explaining these really

04:15:23.660 core issues that men are having are really important.

04:15:26.200 But I think that, unfortunately, there's these forums where men are just taught to, like,

04:15:31.580 kind of hate women right now, and that all women are out to get them and stuff. 0.96

04:15:35.640 Into the mic. 0.61

04:15:36.240 And so the internet can be a pretty dangerous place if you're really destitute and you're

04:15:40.020 really, like, angry at the dating apps and women in the current state of things.

04:15:43.900 Because it can send you down this rabbit hole of just hating women in general when you're

04:15:48.240 really frustrated with the way society is right now.

04:15:51.100 I don't think that's actually Jake, by the way.

04:15:53.520 I know he's asleep right now.

04:15:54.880 That's really funny.

04:15:56.600 That's so funny.

04:15:58.600 Jake from State Farm.

04:16:00.500 Oh, that's too bad.

04:16:01.900 Yo.

04:16:02.460 Hey, Leonardo.

04:16:03.300 I see you, dude.

04:16:03.920 He's my latest.

04:16:05.140 That's cool.

04:16:05.900 He came out of shock with it.

04:16:08.160 The internet was a mistake.

04:16:10.880 But yeah, yo.

04:16:12.580 Hey, dating apps, though, for men, you are playing Russian roulette with your self-esteem.

04:16:18.160 Every chamber and cylinder is loaded as an average guy on a dating app.

04:16:34.380 It is brutal.

04:16:35.640 You're playing Russian roulette with your self-esteem.

04:16:38.200 Okay, let's get these super chats done.

04:16:41.460 Did we?

04:16:42.460 Wait.

04:16:43.520 Did we?

04:16:44.600 Okay.

04:16:44.820 Martin, good lord, ladies, y'all rated your intellect as eight and above. 1.00

04:16:48.320 How are you not getting the references?

04:16:49.720 There's not an IQ over 110 in the, okay.

04:16:55.140 Thank you, Martin.

04:16:55.980 Shane M., thank you for the $20 soup chat.

04:16:57.460 Love how the OF model says we've grown out of women needing men, but then chooses willingly 1.00

04:17:01.360 to leave a good-paying tech job for accepting tens of thousands of dollars from men.

04:17:06.100 I don't know if he heard the part where I said I make 10 times more a year now than I made

04:17:11.200 at my good-paying job where I could not afford an apartment in California, but yeah, totally.

04:17:19.580 Was he saying something about it compromising your values or something?

04:17:23.800 Oh, I don't remember, but he just said, why would I leave a good-paying tech job to do OnlyFans?

04:17:28.860 You're making more money.

04:17:29.780 A lot more money, and I'm setting up my future, getting a house, setting up businesses, and

04:17:35.360 all that stuff.

04:17:36.100 Didn't you say it's like, what, $30,000 a year?

04:17:38.160 $30,000 a month?

04:17:39.720 $30,000 a month, that's what I meant to say.

04:17:40.840 Yeah, on average.

04:17:42.200 Yo, Frids, thank you for the membership.

04:17:43.720 Oh, is that starable, Eric?

04:17:44.900 Can you check if you can?

04:17:46.060 No.

04:17:47.540 Oh, it's a re-up.

04:17:48.680 Yo, Frids, thank you for the membership, man.

04:17:50.380 Appreciate it.

04:17:52.700 Oh, hey, I'll read it.

04:17:55.320 Yeah, I'll read this one.

04:17:56.260 Hold on, guys. 1.00

04:17:56.740 Let's see here, we got, wait, oh, shit, I'm fucking up. 0.99

04:18:02.500 My bad, dudes. 0.98

04:18:05.280 Yo, hey, if an item is good for MT and his healers, should MT have prio?

04:18:09.700 Also, ask the girls for two non-democratic countries for fun. 0.67

04:18:12.660 Greetings.

04:18:13.340 Okay.

04:18:13.660 Yeah, so for the main tank and his healers, main tank and his healers?

04:18:19.080 Oh, are you talking like, I think, didn't they patch that in World of Warcraft where

04:18:23.840 like warriors with the diamond flask, like when they pop that trinket, right?

04:18:28.980 Like it's healing and the healing from the diamond flask was benefited by having plus

04:18:35.800 healing or plus spell power.

04:18:38.480 And so like main tanks would be rolling on healing plus healing items.

04:18:43.240 So, um, I don't think, I don't think that main tank should have prio on healing items, but 0.98

04:18:49.120 yeah, anyways, um, would any of you guys like date a fucking Chad gamer, like a DPS fucking 0.99

04:18:56.260 pumper? 0.99

04:18:57.140 Probably not.

04:18:58.300 Oh, yeah.

04:18:58.600 Wait, wait, wait, guys, guys, guys.

04:19:00.160 Okay, let me put this to you quick.

04:19:02.480 World of Warcraft.

04:19:03.680 Yeah.

04:19:03.900 Boom.

04:19:04.080 Um, he's in the top, top North American raiding guild, hardcore, like gamer, pumper, top parser.

04:19:15.580 He's.

04:19:16.980 Are you talking about all the people in Alex's DMs right now?

04:19:20.220 Like.

04:19:21.400 Is that, is that who's mostly in the DMs?

04:19:24.340 Yeah, I get the musician.

04:19:25.740 She gets the pro gamers.

04:19:26.700 Call of Duty and all that.

04:19:28.720 Oh, yeah.

04:19:29.340 Mostly that.

04:19:31.020 Unfortunately.

04:19:31.460 Okay, um, what about like, just, just really quick on that, um, would you date a guy who,

04:19:43.380 okay, let, let me frame it like this.

04:19:44.820 Would you date a guy that played World of Warcraft three hours a day?

04:19:48.540 No.

04:19:50.380 If he, if he still had his.

04:19:52.640 No, you, okay, we'll go.

04:19:53.620 She's never been on a date and she says no.

04:19:55.740 She turned me down, bro.

04:19:57.000 She turned the host of the podcast down.

04:19:59.000 She says I've never been on a date.

04:20:00.400 No.

04:20:00.740 No, you cannot be a gamer.

04:20:01.840 But the reason why is because my standards are so high, like, you know.

04:20:04.600 What's wrong with being a gamer?

04:20:05.760 I play Call of Duty.

04:20:06.700 Yeah, I don't, okay, fine.

04:20:08.160 Someone's, three hours is fine.

04:20:09.800 I will give them that.

04:20:11.520 If you drink gamer subs, use code AMI.

04:20:14.760 I play on Twitch.

04:20:15.500 Sorry, I saw somebody comment that.

04:20:16.440 I play, I screen video games on Twitch sometimes when I play.

04:20:19.360 I'll go for 12 hours.

04:20:21.400 Three hours is okay.

04:20:22.660 Wait, you have high standards?

04:20:24.220 Yeah.

04:20:25.000 Yeah, I do.

04:20:26.460 That's why.

04:20:26.980 What are your high standards?

04:20:30.180 Just, like, list.

04:20:31.740 Like, time-wise, like, they have to match my level of, like.

04:20:36.540 Into the mic.

04:20:37.540 Of, like, I feel like I'm pretty busy as well.

04:20:39.960 So, like, I feel like they need to match that.

04:20:41.780 They can't be clingy.

04:20:42.580 They need to love me, but they don't need my 24-7 time to be with them all the time.

04:20:51.040 You know what I mean?

04:20:51.480 And I want them to be attractive and have a good style and, you know, like, charismatic,

04:20:55.780 funny, like, things like that.

04:20:57.680 I don't know, man.

04:20:58.740 That sounds like a lot of work.

04:21:02.740 Bro, you're asking for way too much.

04:21:04.320 But that's the thing.

04:21:04.800 I'm like, I feel like I have a good amount of self-love, so, like, why would I settle

04:21:09.360 for something that's not.

04:21:10.840 Okay, but how many men are actually realistically below that?

04:21:14.140 Then I'll die single.

04:21:15.560 I don't know.

04:21:16.320 Bro, women would rather. 1.00

04:21:18.860 They stay single because they want to wait for the best man.

04:21:22.180 Yeah.

04:21:22.360 She just listed all qualities of good personality.

04:21:25.400 That was all she's got.

04:21:26.060 There are so many people in this world.

04:21:27.020 They were staying single waiting for a better man.

04:21:29.240 Let me ask you a question.

04:21:30.180 You said charisma.

04:21:31.680 How many men do you think are charismatic?

04:21:34.220 I want to say it's less than 10.

04:21:35.620 Probably not that many people.

04:21:36.940 Not a lot.

04:21:37.440 You want a charismatic guy.

04:21:39.020 First off, I don't think charisma is.

04:21:42.000 Is it that hard to be charismatic?

04:21:43.920 Most men aren't.

04:21:44.640 Is it that hard to be charismatic?

04:21:47.180 They would rather play Call of Duty and smoke weed and eat pizza.

04:21:49.780 Maybe that's asking for two questions.

04:21:51.180 This is like girls who say, just be confident. 0.94

04:21:54.220 No.

04:21:55.140 Asking for a guy who's charismatic.

04:21:57.960 How many men that you meet are charismatic?

04:22:01.040 Probably not.

04:22:01.720 That's why I'm still single.

04:22:02.600 Well, how do you know if they even are charismatic?

04:22:05.620 Okay.

04:22:05.840 Okay.

04:22:06.100 Fine.

04:22:06.220 Fine.

04:22:06.480 Because you don't give them a big chance.

04:22:07.020 Are you charismatic?

04:22:08.420 I feel like I'm pretty charismatic.

04:22:09.980 Okay.

04:22:10.220 No, you've been kind of quiet tonight.

04:22:11.720 Okay.

04:22:12.220 Okay.

04:22:12.700 Fine.

04:22:12.980 Fine.

04:22:13.100 Fine.

04:22:13.200 Fine.

04:22:13.520 I'll take that back.

04:22:14.900 I just, okay.

04:22:15.700 I just take it back.

04:22:16.480 Yeah.

04:22:16.740 No, no, no.

04:22:17.120 No.

04:22:17.220 I think if those are your standards, then keep them.

04:22:20.980 Who cares what they say?

04:22:21.940 Thank you.

04:22:22.440 Women supporting women.

04:22:23.740 Love to hear it.

04:22:25.140 I don't think you should settle just to date someone.

04:22:27.540 Exactly.

04:22:27.940 What is the reason?

04:22:28.680 I mean, that's what the whole point of this conversation has been, not settling to date

04:22:32.900 someone with a high body count.

04:22:33.920 You don't think you've ever found a man that's worth your time yet?

04:22:36.860 Not even close.

04:22:37.680 I think by 18, you don't have to, and you shouldn't have to.

04:22:42.100 Exactly.

04:22:42.260 You have so much life ahead of you.

04:22:43.460 Yo, here's some meow mix.

04:22:45.540 There you go.

04:22:47.000 Some cat food.

04:22:47.620 No, it's so true, though.

04:22:50.680 Love yourself first before you take on anyone else's love.

04:22:54.420 Word.

04:22:54.800 But wait, can you just, one more time, can you just, what were the things you want again?

04:23:00.000 Okay.

04:23:00.740 Let me just really rephrase this in a better way.

04:23:03.840 No, say them all.

04:23:04.560 Say them all.

04:23:04.900 No, no, no, no.

04:23:05.540 Say them all.

04:23:06.220 I'm not going to say, I don't even remember them.

04:23:07.660 I was just word vomiting there.

04:23:09.060 You know what I mean?

04:23:09.600 Okay, sure.

04:23:10.440 Walk it back.

04:23:11.220 Okay, go ahead.

04:23:11.880 Just like.

04:23:12.300 Rephrase.

04:23:12.660 Okay.

04:23:13.640 Nice.

04:23:14.860 Funny.

04:23:16.840 Has like good time management, like productive.

04:23:20.300 Hold on.

04:23:20.660 I'm going to write these down.

04:23:21.740 Hold on.

04:23:22.180 Nice.

04:23:23.100 Funny.

04:23:23.780 Good time management.

04:23:25.360 What about his words per minute when he's typing?

04:23:27.400 Is that important?

04:23:28.460 Absolutely.

04:23:29.100 What's up?

04:23:29.560 No.

04:23:29.780 Just keep an eye on me while I'm doing this.

04:23:31.980 Okay, go ahead.

04:23:33.380 Okay, keep going.

04:23:34.580 Good style.

04:23:35.460 Good style.

04:23:36.600 Yeah.

04:23:36.760 You said attractive before.

04:23:38.660 Attractive.

04:23:39.900 Height.

04:23:40.540 What's the minimum height again?

04:23:41.820 5'8".

04:23:42.300 5'8 or above.

04:23:43.240 4'11 by the way.

04:23:44.240 Okay, continue.

04:23:44.740 Okay, 5'7".

04:23:45.600 Oh, okay, okay.

04:23:46.380 5'7".

04:23:47.400 And not.

04:23:49.900 Did I say that he can't be clingy?

04:23:51.300 Like don't.

04:23:51.680 Not too clingy.

04:23:52.240 But gives me enough love.

04:23:53.520 But gives you enough love.

04:23:56.400 What else?

04:23:56.840 Anything else?

04:23:58.200 And is confident.

04:23:59.280 So she wants a guy that's a cat. 0.87

04:24:00.960 What about, do you have any racial preferences?

04:24:05.720 No, not really.

04:24:06.680 Okay, that's fine.

04:24:07.940 Have you guys ever used the female delusional calculator? 0.93

04:24:10.100 Oh, God.

04:24:11.240 Somebody brought that up in chat.

04:24:12.920 I know.

04:24:13.100 I think you guys need to open that up.

04:24:16.260 So you don't want a charismatic guy?

04:24:18.300 Yeah, fine.

04:24:19.300 He can be kind of like, just kind of average.

04:24:22.600 I get it.

04:24:23.140 Like people are people and it is hard to be perfect.

04:24:25.280 As long as they like fit my vibe and we get along well and he does things that make me happy.

04:24:32.000 Nice, funny, good style, attractive, 5'7".

04:24:34.100 Okay, nice, funny, good time management, good style, attractive, 5'7", not clingy, but gives you enough love.

04:24:41.840 Okay.

04:24:43.080 So the height thing, I think that's most guys are going to be above 5'7", so you're okay there.

04:24:48.520 The funny part, so you said, wait, you said it's not that hard to be charismatic.

04:24:58.080 How many men are charismatic?

04:25:00.100 I feel like a lot of my guy friends, a lot of the guys that I know are pretty charismatic.

04:25:06.660 Really?

04:25:08.180 What would you describe as charismatic?

04:25:09.800 This is like girls, I already said this, but this is like girls saying just be confident.

04:25:13.600 As if it's so easy or just be funny. 0.95

04:25:15.900 Do you know how fucking hard it is to be funny? 0.88

04:25:20.280 It's hard to carry yourself with confidence, but it's usually something people can get down pretty quickly once they try. 0.97

04:25:25.820 Well, that's convenient for women to say. 1.00

04:25:28.160 Fake it till you make it kind of thing with confidence for sure.

04:25:29.860 That's convenient for women to say because we don't analyze a woman on her confidence. 1.00

04:25:35.280 I'm not talking about women, I'm talking about men right now.

04:25:36.580 No, but it's convenient for you guys to say when all of you said that your success rate when it comes to approaching men is 100%. 0.98

04:25:44.320 Whereas when men approach women, they get fucking brutally rejected.

04:25:49.180 Well, I think the difference is, sorry to interrupt you, but I think the difference is because I've only gone up to two guys. 0.99

04:25:53.820 You guys shoot your shot all the time.

04:25:55.500 Because we have to.

04:25:56.840 Yeah, but I think that's the reason that we don't get rejected.

04:26:00.700 It's because we don't take that chance all the time.

04:26:02.660 There's never going to be a man that rejects you.

04:26:05.160 He doesn't even have to be attracted to you.

04:26:07.940 He has, if you're offering him what he thinks you're going to offer him, he'll take it.

04:26:13.580 Unless he's a high value man like you, right?

04:26:15.980 Where you only want a relationship.

04:26:18.360 Even a high value man is not going to turn down sex.

04:26:21.180 Really?

04:26:22.020 Absolutely not.

04:26:23.040 Let me start chipping away at some of these.

04:26:25.060 So you said, you listed them, right?

04:26:27.780 Let's say he's all of these, but he's not funny.

04:26:30.780 That's fine.

04:26:32.100 Okay.

04:26:32.980 I'm just laying out my ideal type.

04:26:34.920 You don't think, how funny is, how important is being funny on that list for you?

04:26:39.560 I mean, they're going to make me laugh.

04:26:40.840 I don't want a dry guy.

04:26:42.200 You know what I mean?

04:26:42.520 It's boring.

04:26:42.780 Yeah, exactly.

04:26:43.460 Are you funny though?

04:26:44.180 I can be.

04:26:46.140 If a Pete Davidson can pull an Emily Ratatouche guy, then I would say that's very important.

04:26:51.760 And you can date up.

04:26:53.920 I will say, there are some things that will mask how attractive you are.

04:26:58.620 Yes.

04:26:58.900 You know what I mean?

04:27:00.020 I will go for a guy who I don't think is my top, oh my god, attractiveness level, but

04:27:05.040 he's funny and he's really, really nice and he's smart.

04:27:07.680 Yeah, I'll go for that.

04:27:09.120 You know what I mean? 0.99

04:27:10.220 But if he doesn't, then damn, he better be really hot. 0.99

04:27:14.260 They better be really hot? 0.98

04:27:15.780 Yeah, but I probably wouldn't even go for a guy who's really, really hot because he

04:27:18.480 probably doesn't even have any of those characteristics.

04:27:22.100 I mean, unless there is.

04:27:23.240 I don't know.

04:27:23.580 That's what I'm waiting for.

04:27:24.600 You see my issue here.

04:27:28.260 I would say most attractive guys, they would say they probably have a lot of confidence.

04:27:32.680 Yeah, yeah, probably.

04:27:33.760 Which kind of goes hand in hand with being charismatic or having drive, which women really want in 1.00

04:27:44.880 a man.

04:27:45.220 They want a man that has drive.

04:27:46.680 They don't want a man that's just going to be a bum for the rest of his life. 1.00

04:27:48.940 They want a man that has goals.

04:27:51.200 So I'd say a confident, I'd say an attractive man already automatically has a lot of those

04:27:58.780 because of his ego.

04:28:01.020 Yeah, that's true.

04:28:05.920 Okay, let's do these super chats.

04:28:07.200 Okay, so we got to get through them.

04:28:09.980 Let's try to just get through them.

04:28:12.520 Wait, did I do this one?

04:28:14.320 It was a choice to be a stay-at-home wife. 1.00

04:28:15.980 Women were the ones that voted not to have the right to vote. 1.00

04:28:19.080 Gus, you're going to stir up some.

04:28:22.660 Okay, $20 soup chat.

04:28:24.380 Because it came with responsibilities like the draft, volunteer firefighter, owning land,

04:28:29.060 you cannot change millennia of biology.

04:28:31.820 Do you want to respond to him?

04:28:32.820 Because this might be directed to you.

04:28:36.660 I think it's a very long response to that particular statement.

04:28:41.640 But I think that biology and evolution definitely play a part in our current interactions with

04:28:48.500 each other and communications.

04:28:49.700 However, we as a society have developed far past that.

04:28:53.660 And in order for men and women to get along and for us to improve the current dating sphere

04:28:58.260 where men are feeling horribly rejected and feeling like anything they do could be counted

04:29:03.680 as S.A. and all this awful stuff.

04:29:06.320 In order for us to fix that, we need to fix it as a whole.

04:29:09.840 So, yeah.

04:29:11.580 Also, with this next soup chat that's coming up, a study was done around 2010, for example,

04:29:16.360 in the U.K. where 30% of women self-declared that it is morally acceptable to commit paternity

04:29:21.360 fraud and feminists actively oppose mandatory paternity testing. 0.99

04:29:25.400 That's a good point.

04:29:26.220 I was born in France.

04:29:27.520 I have dual citizenship.

04:29:29.020 French was my first language.

04:29:30.740 In France, you can't get a paternity test.

04:29:33.940 Like, you, I think, I don't know exactly, but I think the woman has to agree to the paternity 0.97

04:29:43.560 test of the kid or something.

04:29:45.300 But in France, like, you can't get it.

04:29:47.120 Because apparently in France, luckily my parent, not the case for my parents, but paternity

04:29:52.640 fraud is rampant in France. 0.96

04:29:56.200 So, they banned it, I guess, because it would fuck up and destroy a whole bunch of families 0.98

04:30:00.820 if people found out the truth. 0.86

04:30:02.880 Eric, can you pull up, there was another study done where they didn't survey people.

04:30:08.660 They actually looked at a DNA analysis or something.

04:30:12.860 I don't know if you'll be able to find it, but they did a DNA analysis and something.

04:30:16.060 I don't know what it is.

04:30:16.940 But they did do, discovered that, like, there is a pretty shocking amount of paternity fraud

04:30:24.900 going on.

04:30:26.100 So, I don't know if you're able to find that, but, and also the other thing I would add

04:30:29.900 is they've sequenced DNA and we can actually tell, we can compare the amount of women who 1.00

04:30:35.940 have been able to reproduce and the amount of men who have been able to reproduce.

04:30:39.880 And it's something like, I don't know if you can find the stats on that too, Eric.

04:30:43.200 I think it's, like, most women throughout history have reproduced, whereas, like, only, 0.99

04:30:48.640 like, 40% of men who have ever lived have reproduced.

04:30:52.040 Something crazy like that. 0.86

04:30:53.540 So, men are the expendable sex. 0.99

04:30:56.220 Have you heard about the story? 0.58

04:30:58.200 I'm not sure how valid this is.

04:31:00.180 I think Indonesia banned sex before marriage.

04:31:04.600 Have you heard about that?

04:31:05.440 Yeah, they did.

04:31:06.180 Oh, I saw, like, in Bali, I think?

04:31:07.880 Well, Indonesia is a Muslim country, isn't it?

04:31:10.480 Yeah, I saw that article.

04:31:11.880 Did you pull it up, Eric?

04:31:15.480 Or could you find it, find anything?

04:31:20.100 I guess they're not going to have a paternity issue.

04:31:24.640 F11.

04:31:25.900 Yeah, in the United States, you can do it even if the woman doesn't agree.

04:31:29.580 Some have also suggested the reason for the ongoing ban is to preserve the peace in French

04:31:34.360 families with many incidents of people taking the test and discovering information such as

04:31:39.460 that one of their parents isn't actually theirs.

04:31:41.880 Yeah, so, it's banned in France, guys.

04:31:45.760 F in the chat for France. 0.95

04:31:47.400 France is a failed society.

04:31:49.100 France is, as someone who has gone back to France a lot, I remember, here's the, I won't

04:31:55.560 stick too long on this topic because it's absolutely not dating related.

04:31:58.100 I remember going to the Eiffel Tower as a child.

04:32:01.460 There was no security.

04:32:03.020 There were no, I don't know if they're called gender maries, if there's any French people

04:32:06.640 in the chat.

04:32:07.660 I was in France in 2014.

04:32:09.980 There are, like, soldiers or police officers with guns all over the Eiffel Tower, like,

04:32:19.440 all surrounding the Eiffel Tower.

04:32:21.920 That wasn't the case when I was a kid.

04:32:23.440 You could walk around near the Eiffel Tower. 0.98

04:32:25.980 There's all barricades and shit. 1.00

04:32:28.580 France is a failed society. 1.00

04:32:30.300 Okay.

04:32:30.900 So, we have Azul with the $20 soup chat.

04:32:32.900 One of the many wise things Sharp DePee has said is that OnlyFans is a stepping stone to

04:32:38.380 hoeing.

04:32:39.420 Thoughts?

04:32:40.980 Napoleon, the fourth one.

04:32:42.260 Okay.

04:32:43.320 Thoughts?

04:32:43.800 Also, any chance you can get him to co-host?

04:32:45.640 Sharp DePee has said.

04:32:46.740 If not Sharp, maybe Rich Tactical Soap Cougar.

04:32:52.340 I don't know about Sharp, but I've heard of Rich.

04:32:55.100 Would love to.

04:32:56.400 I'm going to be doing some more collaboration soon, guys.

04:32:59.340 So, it's in the works.

04:33:02.260 Azul, thank you, man.

04:33:03.060 Gus, $20 soup chat.

04:33:04.120 Thank you.

04:33:04.440 Single mom equals recreational use only. 0.99

04:33:07.080 Everyone is allowed to do as they please, but actions have consequences.

04:33:10.820 Man's standards equals discrimination. 0.89

04:33:13.280 Women's standards equals preferences. 1.00

04:33:15.960 Yep.

04:33:16.240 Stop telling men how things should be. 1.00

04:33:20.200 Yeah, I mean, there definitely seemed to have been a bit of pushback earlier on in the show

04:33:23.420 when I was talking about, like, hey, body count's a big deal, and you guys all really

04:33:26.140 seem, you're like, oh, Brian, you're really, I really don't ask for a lot in a girl. 0.99

04:33:31.520 Like, I don't really ask for that much, I think.

04:33:35.360 I mean, maybe in today's society, I'm asking for a lot, but.

04:33:40.060 What are you asking for?

04:33:41.640 Okay, so low body count, that's one, right?

04:33:44.340 Loyalty, hold on.

04:33:48.860 Loyalty, femininity, fidelity, and peace.

04:33:53.120 Respect.

04:33:53.540 So, it doesn't matter at all what she looks like?

04:33:56.260 No, I mean.

04:33:56.760 Or how tall she is.

04:33:57.980 Height, don't care. 0.66

04:33:59.040 I'll date a dwarf. 1.00

04:33:59.760 I'll date a woman who's 6'7". 1.00

04:34:01.060 Height doesn't matter. 0.57

04:34:04.160 Looks, like, not a huge, like, I care about looks, but it's not, like, small boobs, big 0.96

04:34:10.400 boobs, don't care. 1.00

04:34:11.560 Nice ass is nice, but, like, I care. 0.99

04:34:16.020 Looks is a factor, but it's kind of not super important to me. 0.98

04:34:20.660 Like, it's not a huge thing.

04:34:24.480 As long as you're just fit, like, you know, you're not obese, you're not overweight, like,

04:34:30.180 don't really, not a major part of the calculus for me.

04:34:35.900 I would, okay, let me put it to you like this.

04:34:37.980 I would much rather date a woman who's, if we, you know, we were using the 1 to 10 rating 0.99

04:34:42.980 scale, give me a 5 who brings me peace, loyalty, and fidelity over a 10 that's going to be a 0.99

04:34:50.280 fucking headache. 1.00

04:34:51.140 I don't care if she's a fucking supermodel. 1.00

04:34:53.680 I don't want to put up with drama and bullshit and conflict and someone who's combative. 1.00

04:35:01.500 I will care far less about someone's physical appearance in, again, if she's a supermodel, 1.00

04:35:11.900 but she's a fucking headache and stresses me out and is promiscuous, not interested. 1.00

04:35:17.360 Okay, but what if she's all of the things that you want, but she has a bad history? 1.00

04:35:22.600 What do you mean?

04:35:23.260 Like, she's super peaceful.

04:35:25.360 She gives you that peace.

04:35:26.680 She makes you happy.

04:35:28.100 She makes you dinner when you get home.

04:35:29.780 Like, she has every, the house is taken care of.

04:35:32.720 You know your kids are going to be taken care of, but then, you know, she has a past where 1.00

04:35:37.380 she has, like, 10 bodies or something. 0.99

04:35:38.920 Is her history known to the public or just known by me?

04:35:41.440 Right, so you care more, like, if other people know about.

04:35:43.940 Because it's a status, it's a status thing, yeah.

04:35:46.660 Very interesting.

04:35:47.260 It's important because the woman represents her man. 0.58

04:35:49.820 This has been so interesting for me.

04:35:51.460 I've always wondered, you know, what the thoughts behind some of these statements are, so it's

04:35:57.500 cool to hear you guys.

04:35:58.680 If she had 10, but she brought me all that other stuff, I think that's probably okay.

04:36:05.220 See, because I think you guys say, like, low body count, nothing else, but then when

04:36:09.140 we talk about it and we really, like, discuss it, like, she would be a great mom and this

04:36:12.840 and that, and you'd love her, you're like, eh, you know, it's not that big of a deal.

04:36:16.940 But 10 isn't, like, for Southern, for California, like, 20, 30, like, insane numbers.

04:36:25.920 For California, 10.

04:36:27.160 You might as well be a virgin at 10.

04:36:28.160 And also, I'm 33, right?

04:36:29.820 Okay, I see.

04:36:30.720 So, like, most of the women that are within my age cohort are going to be, I mean, I'm lucky.

04:36:35.600 Did you not just ask out an 18-year-old?

04:36:38.120 Well, I would date an 18-year-old, but most of the women I don't, I'm not going to college 0.99

04:36:46.060 parties trolling for 19-year-old chicks, but would I...

04:36:49.860 You would actually date an 18-year-old?

04:36:50.760 Absolutely.

04:36:51.740 Really?

04:36:52.120 I would absolutely date an 18-year-old.

04:36:53.660 As long as she's mature enough, why not?

04:36:56.240 It's, I mean, well, I suppose, but...

04:37:00.140 Because body count counts more than, like, maturity and ability to hold down the household

04:37:04.440 and all that stuff.

04:37:05.940 Well, it's body count, it's...

04:37:08.400 Purity.

04:37:09.600 Purity, it's also physical.

04:37:11.600 It counts more.

04:37:12.180 It is a physical attractiveness component.

04:37:14.720 And I'm probably going to get hate for saying this, but if you dated somebody younger, you

04:37:17.980 can actually kind of mold them into their life.

04:37:20.460 That's literally what Andrew Tate says.

04:37:21.720 Yes, I understand.

04:37:22.400 But he's right.

04:37:22.780 You can mold them into being the wife that you're wanting to find. 0.87

04:37:27.560 I believe in finding a person and then, like, you know, matching up with them because I

04:37:33.420 have the same foundational beliefs and goals as them.

04:37:37.380 And then we, you know, grow together and develop together and fix things about each other that

04:37:42.220 maybe don't work and come together.

04:37:44.140 I don't believe in molding someone and making them become...

04:37:47.900 That's for you to do with your children, for sure.

04:37:50.160 Yeah, that's what parents do.

04:37:50.700 But not to do with your partner.

04:37:52.220 That's just my opinion, though.

04:37:53.760 I mean, do you guys want a guy who's a leader and decisive and confident?

04:37:58.200 Yes, but I don't want him to mold me.

04:37:59.920 A lot of people don't tell me what to do.

04:38:01.260 I want him to take care of his business.

04:38:03.640 Let me ask you a question.

04:38:04.920 And I hear this complaint a lot from women. 1.00

04:38:07.860 It's a turnoff for women if the guy is indecisive about where he wants to eat, for example. 1.00

04:38:12.540 And I often hear women say, I don't know where I want to eat.

04:38:15.740 And I also hear women say, you know, it's really...

04:38:18.640 I see this on...

04:38:19.400 It's almost ubiquitous on hinge prompts.

04:38:22.100 It's like a green flag for me is I'm picking you up at this time.

04:38:27.500 I made reservations for here.

04:38:29.200 7 p.m.

04:38:29.860 I'll pick you up.

04:38:30.680 Like, for me, if a girl is indecisive, I don't... 0.99

04:38:37.420 I mean, unless it's impacting me because I know how to lead.

04:38:42.760 So...

04:38:43.200 Being decisive doesn't really mean leading, though.

04:38:45.940 It just means you know what you want.

04:38:48.160 But you can lead them into a decision.

04:38:49.840 A decision that doesn't matter that much.

04:38:53.380 It's just dinner.

04:38:54.260 They're not going to lead me into a decision in my career.

04:38:56.900 But do you find it attractive when the man knows what he wants and what he wants for you and him?

04:39:02.300 You find it attractive when the man takes lead.

04:39:04.660 That's why most women love being submissive. 1.00

04:39:06.620 I mean, it depends if it's like a relationship.

04:39:08.700 Yeah, if he is a man that's like, yeah, I want a relationship.

04:39:10.860 That's great.

04:39:11.460 That's attractive.

04:39:11.940 But if he's like, we are going to live here in this state, blah, blah, blah.

04:39:16.480 That's not what I want.

04:39:17.660 I don't find that attractive.

04:39:18.560 Being decisive is not equal to being a leader.

04:39:21.940 Okay, one thing, guys.

04:39:24.000 I will finish the soup chats and then we will wrap.

04:39:26.740 Guys, $50 and up for the rest of the show.

04:39:29.660 Just because I need to get...

04:39:32.680 We've been going for a long time, so I just got to wrap up on the soup chats.

04:39:36.420 So if you want $50 and up from now, Eric, if you can just note that.

04:39:40.960 Wait, so what was the original...

04:39:42.480 What was the...

04:39:43.160 I slipped my mind.

04:39:44.980 Being decisive.

04:39:46.240 Okay, let's move on with the soup chats here.

04:39:48.560 So, yo, eventide fallacy.

04:39:54.000 Thank you for the $20 soup chat. 0.98

04:39:55.120 Damn, what an insanely attractive group of people this show with Brian being on top of the attractiveness, of course. 0.98

04:40:00.580 Thank you, dude. 0.98

04:40:01.220 Appreciate it.

04:40:02.160 But, okay, fun fact.

04:40:03.500 I think Kiki, honestly, is the...

04:40:05.160 You know, I think she's probably... 0.99

04:40:07.960 Ew, is?

04:40:08.920 No!

04:40:10.040 I think she's probably the most attractive man, but more men die from deleting themselves after a female initiated divorce than women whom are murdered by men.

04:40:21.980 Oh, I didn't know that.

04:40:22.720 Okay.

04:40:23.180 Wait, what?

04:40:23.920 Well, let's continue with that.

04:40:25.860 Asar, with the $20 soup chat, the mind knows only what lies near the heart.

04:40:29.260 How true is your heart when it comes to relationships?

04:40:31.620 As Tate says, they simply don't care.

04:40:33.380 Men are invisible. 0.97

04:40:34.760 It's so sad that you guys feel that way.

04:40:37.340 I'm so sorry.

04:40:38.560 That feel what way?

04:40:40.040 That men feel invisible.

04:40:41.660 It's not just the fact that we feel invisible.

04:40:43.240 It's not that we feel.

04:40:44.580 We are invisible.

04:40:46.180 We all have seen you and let you tell us exactly how you feel.

04:40:50.300 Because he has a podcast.

04:40:51.580 I have a podcast to talk.

04:40:52.760 But, like, we're talking more so within the context of dating.

04:40:56.580 Like, a woman can never be truly lonely in the way that a man can.

04:41:02.840 Because a woman can go on a dating app and get some attention. 1.00

04:41:06.120 And might not be...

04:41:07.080 Do you think that fills that loneliness?

04:41:08.200 It's a warm bed and a cuddle, and I think that's...

04:41:12.880 Do you think that fills the hole?

04:41:15.040 I mean, it might not be the precise suitor in which you want, but...

04:41:19.700 It's not going to fill the loneliness either.

04:41:21.420 In the moment, it feels pretty damn good.

04:41:23.780 Oh, well, not for me.

04:41:25.040 A man can be...

04:41:26.460 There's a whole movie...

04:41:28.080 Actually, here's the funny thing. 0.97

04:41:29.800 You guys are probably familiar with the term, like, incel and shit, right? 0.97

04:41:34.440 Involuntary celibate. 0.98

04:41:35.640 Yeah.

04:41:35.900 Which, by the way, I think these guys are...

04:41:38.040 Just either they're not particularly good-looking or they're struggling socially.

04:41:43.220 I think it's unfortunate that we shame them.

04:41:46.040 Because a lot of them are just...

04:41:48.500 They're struggling when it comes to dating.

04:41:50.320 And I don't think shaming them is the solution.

04:41:52.140 But there was a femcel movement.

04:41:57.420 It was on Reddit.

04:41:58.360 There was a femcel subreddit where women were complaining that they were involuntarily celibate.

04:42:04.520 And what ended up happening is they had to private the community because guys were messaging the girls saying,

04:42:11.200 Hey, I'm lonely too.

04:42:13.760 I want to get with you.

04:42:15.120 I want to be with you.

04:42:16.680 You know, I'll get with you. 1.00

04:42:18.960 So even women who claim that they're involuntarily celibate, it's all bullshit. 0.98

04:42:24.640 So you think it would fill the loneliness for her to respond to that Reddit message? 0.98

04:42:28.600 Here, let's watch a Tate clip on this real quick. 0.75

04:42:31.160 Eric, can you pull up a Tate clip?

04:42:32.240 A Tate clip.

04:42:33.180 I think maybe we need to.

04:42:34.280 We're almost done, guys.

04:42:35.300 What's on all the Tate clips?

04:42:36.100 I don't need a Tate clip.

04:42:37.780 We're going to watch it.

04:42:38.920 It's short.

04:42:39.280 It's short.

04:42:39.820 Wait.

04:42:40.560 Wait a minute.

04:42:41.080 I'll pause it.

04:42:41.860 Eric, go down to the Tate.

04:42:43.100 It's at the Tate window.

04:42:44.580 It is due.

04:42:48.480 Hold on.

04:42:49.080 Scroll down just a tad.

04:42:51.720 There's two of them.

04:42:52.760 Oh, it's FNF alone.

04:42:54.500 By the way, the previous Tate clip, that's from Fresh and Fit.

04:42:57.000 Check them out.

04:42:57.700 No, no, no.

04:42:58.080 It's the other one.

04:43:00.780 Go, go, go.

04:43:02.220 I don't think most women can actually genuinely understand how lonely the majority of men are.

04:43:09.640 You need to truly understand.

04:43:11.540 You're Joe Schmo.

04:43:13.160 Average in nearly every way.

04:43:15.020 In Starbucks working.

04:43:17.500 You ain't getting a Tate ever.

04:43:20.240 You girls will never be lonely. 0.99

04:43:23.740 As much as you might be unhappy with the possible suitors, you can at least fuck about and flirt if you feel sad. 0.98

04:43:30.100 There are men out here in the world who have genuine loneliness. 0.99

04:43:35.080 And I can prove this statistically.

04:43:37.620 Okay, he's going to say something about people deleting themselves, but yo, shout out to Fresh and Fit for their, that's a clip from their podcast.

04:43:43.840 So, yeah, men are genuinely lonely.

04:43:49.320 That's not, we're not arguing against that.

04:43:51.560 It's very sad.

04:43:52.100 What I thought that is, the statistic that I brought up earlier by 50% of women will be single by 2030, that's the woman's choice. 0.98

04:43:59.340 It's not the men's choice in their lives.

04:44:01.800 It's the woman's choice to be single by 2030. 1.00

04:44:04.060 The 50%, they're painting their own bed. 0.89

04:44:08.400 Yeah, and as far as men being invisible, for example, any one of you girls, if we drop you at a party, I know you two are in college, I don't know if you're going to bars and clubs yet, we drop any of you at a bar, nightclub, you're going to get hit on. 0.96

04:44:25.140 Guys are going to approach you one, two, three, four, five times a night, maybe more.

04:44:28.980 A guy, I'll even give you this, your looks equivalent, if you want to imagine it, whatever your looks equivalent is, you drop him in the nightclub, nobody's going to talk to him the entire night.

04:44:43.100 He will sit there alone.

04:44:45.580 No girls are coming to hit on him.

04:44:47.160 That's the difference between men and women. 1.00

04:44:49.900 So, men are invisible. 0.66

04:44:50.760 Also, a baddie who works at McDonald's, 19-year-old baddie who works at McDonald's, versus, let's bump it up a bit older, let's say a 24-year-old but good-looking girl who works at McDonald's, Arby's, I like roast beef. 1.00

04:45:10.720 Okay, well, let's not get into that right now, but versus a 24-year-old dude who works at McDonald's, girls are going to fuck. 1.00

04:45:18.240 Girls aren't going to take him, like, he works at McDonald's, like, he might, but I mean, anyways, okay, let's get through these Super Chats, we only have a few more. 0.98

04:45:28.860 All right, Calvin C., thank you, female guest, generalization, agree or no, playing video games for a couple hours is a waste of, oh, that reminds me, is a waste of time, but women watching shows for a couple of hours is a-okay. 0.53

04:45:41.100 Some of us play video games.

04:45:43.260 Wait, did everyone get to go around on the World of Warcraft, Chad?

04:45:46.060 Like, would you date a guy who played World of Warcraft for three hours a day?

04:45:50.320 Wait, okay, really quick.

04:45:51.600 Video games in general, video games in general.

04:45:52.820 Well, let's do World of Warcraft on this one.

04:45:55.300 Because I can't play World of Warcraft.

04:45:57.740 Years ago, I used to, I haven't played video games in three years, but a guy who, excuse me, here's the question.

04:46:05.880 Would you date a guy who played World of Warcraft for three hours a day?

04:46:09.300 For fun or for income?

04:46:10.800 Wait, okay, hold on.

04:46:13.200 Would, okay, would you date a guy who played World of Warcraft, Jesus Christ, would you date a guy who played World of Warcraft for three hours a day?

04:46:20.760 Not if it was something that consumed his life.

04:46:24.280 Um, yeah, I wouldn't care as long as it doesn't interfere with our relationship.

04:46:28.040 Three hours a day?

04:46:29.020 I mean, I'm a writer.

04:46:29.920 I write for eight hours a day.

04:46:31.620 Okay.

04:46:33.140 Sure.

04:46:33.760 Wait, you said no before.

04:46:34.880 I'm changing my answer.

04:46:36.300 I got roasted by him, so I'm changing it.

04:46:38.840 Don't, don't capitulate.

04:46:40.700 Okay, go ahead. 0.99

04:46:41.800 I mean, if the rest of his shit's together, like, you do whatever you want to wind down. 0.99

04:46:45.920 Like, we all have hobbies. 0.99

04:46:47.160 What about, like, six hours a day?

04:46:48.460 Anybody changing there?

04:46:50.240 If he can make a new job.

04:46:51.340 You'll be the only honest one on this one, I think.

04:46:53.400 Go ahead.

04:46:54.000 As long as it doesn't get in the way of our relationship and him being healthy, whatever.

04:46:59.120 But if it's getting in the way, then it becomes a problem.

04:47:02.420 Hold on, go ahead.

04:47:03.100 We all have our vices if he's addicted to it and it's hurting him.

04:47:06.500 It shouldn't continue, but if he's doing it for fun, it's fine.

04:47:09.540 Eric, can you pull up the, there's a Google image.

04:47:12.720 Did I show you that with Henry?

04:47:15.140 Can you pull that up?

04:47:16.340 See, the sad thing, when we first asked Taylor.

04:47:19.640 Wait, wait, hold on.

04:47:20.520 I'll let you go.

04:47:21.400 So, Henry Cavill?

04:47:23.440 Cavill?

04:47:24.180 Cavill.

04:47:25.380 Superman.

04:47:26.240 Man crush.

04:47:27.040 What was the witcher that he, okay.

04:47:29.340 He plays World of Warcraft.

04:47:35.540 He's a big gamer nerd.

04:47:37.400 Okay.

04:47:37.860 This is okay.

04:47:39.400 Okay.

04:47:39.640 He built his own gaming computer.

04:47:41.540 He plays video games.

04:47:42.340 Like, it's something I just accepted.

04:47:43.940 But see, that's the thing.

04:47:44.660 But that's the thing.

04:47:45.200 He's very successful.

04:47:46.320 But regardless, her first question was, is it for fun or is it for income?

04:47:50.760 It shouldn't matter.

04:47:52.680 If we have fun with it.

04:47:54.140 Well, if it's his job, then he has a reason to spend six hours a day.

04:47:56.920 If I want to spend three hours of my free time a day.

04:48:01.560 Yeah, I think that's fine.

04:48:02.180 You didn't say free time.

04:48:03.220 You just said three hours a day.

04:48:04.420 Well, I'm assuming who, is that not free time?

04:48:07.940 That's the problem.

04:48:08.020 Is that not free time?

04:48:09.060 It's not best to assume.

04:48:09.820 Is that not free time?

04:48:10.560 Everyone can choose what they do in their free time.

04:48:12.320 Do you have six hours of free time, like, to play video games over, like, being with a girl?

04:48:16.760 You get off at work at 10 p.m. and you play until 1 a.m.

04:48:21.700 Is that a problem?

04:48:22.380 When are you hanging out with your girl, then?

04:48:23.700 What if you don't have a girl?

04:48:24.760 Well, that was the question.

04:48:25.620 Would you date a guy that...

04:48:27.480 Well, the question is, he is single.

04:48:29.300 He's single at that point in time.

04:48:30.520 Okay, sure.

04:48:31.040 He can do whatever he wants if he's...

04:48:32.180 But you won't date it.

04:48:33.460 But the main problem was, was he playing the game for fun or for money?

04:48:38.620 It was only important to you and okay with you initially if he was playing for money.

04:48:42.680 Was that really what you meant?

04:48:43.660 Or did you mean, like, if it's his job, then he has a very valid reason to spend six or

04:48:48.860 eight hours.

04:48:49.040 I was trying to understand the question better.

04:48:50.940 I wasn't saying...

04:48:51.860 But, so is it okay if he does it for fun and he's not making any money of it and it's not

04:48:56.440 hurting his life?

04:48:57.320 I'm going to reiterate my answer, like I said last time.

04:48:59.660 As long as it's not interfering with anything that he personally has going on, it's not detrimental

04:49:03.620 to him or his mental health or our relationship. 0.99

04:49:06.400 By all means, do whatever the fuck you want. 0.99

04:49:08.600 Okay. 0.98

04:49:09.940 Last three super chats.

04:49:11.280 Martin, $20 super chat.

04:49:12.280 Sweet and sour delusion.

04:49:13.040 Hey, Martin, thank you for all the support tonight, man.

04:49:15.200 Appreciate it.

04:49:16.040 Eventide fallacy, $20 super chat.

04:49:17.580 My bad.

04:49:18.160 Mint self deletion.

04:49:19.000 All good, man.

04:49:19.420 Don't even trip.

04:49:20.420 Young men today need to get off apps. 1.00

04:49:22.220 Stop following random IG girls.

04:49:24.940 Start going to public places and learn to accept rejection.

04:49:27.880 Then talk to her friend.

04:49:29.880 Okay.

04:49:30.580 There you go.

04:49:31.460 Do the little shimmy. 0.97

04:49:32.960 Okay.

04:49:33.400 Stop paying for OF.

04:49:35.000 She won't bang you.

04:49:36.580 It's facts.

04:49:37.300 You guys should just focus on yourselves and improving yourselves and dating.

04:49:40.780 No, no, said from the, that's coming from a girl who does OnlyFans. 1.00

04:49:45.280 Start walking up.

04:49:46.100 I literally tell my subs in the messages.

04:49:48.280 Start going to grocery stores more often.

04:49:51.320 You'll find some very pretty girls at grocery stores. 1.00

04:49:53.600 You'll get rejected, but you'll also find some nice women there, too. 0.83

04:49:57.160 All right.

04:49:57.380 We have Nathaniel Glass here.

04:49:59.460 $25 super chat.

04:50:00.440 Last super chat.

04:50:01.800 What advice?

04:50:02.560 I mean, if any other come in, we'll get it.

04:50:04.340 But 50 and over, guys.

04:50:05.800 What advice would the ladies give to a 42-year-old recently divorced wanting to get back on the market? 1.00

04:50:10.400 I mean, don't ask fish how to fish, but wait, did that make sense?

04:50:15.120 Don't ask, you don't ask the, I don't know.

04:50:20.760 Okay, if you guys have.

04:50:23.500 You're never too old to get back into the dating scene.

04:50:26.220 There's a lot of divorced people out there. 0.99

04:50:30.260 Anybody else?

04:50:31.160 Anyone want to give them advice?

04:50:33.980 Focus on yourself.

04:50:34.800 And I think the two girls here would say subscribe to their OnlyFans. 0.78

04:50:39.400 Yeah.

04:50:40.100 You can chat with me.

04:50:41.060 I'll give you some advice personally.

04:50:42.660 Oh, gosh.

04:50:44.280 Okay.

04:50:44.960 So, last few things here before we wrap up.

04:50:49.420 I want to just say one comment about the money thing and kind of like why money doesn't care to me.

04:50:54.700 So, my thing is, is I'm, my plan is to make enough money where I can support both of us.

04:51:04.260 My goal is to retire, well, fingers crossed, but to have us both retired at 40 so that neither of us have to work. 0.96

04:51:12.460 We can just fucking travel and, you know, life partner, all that shit.

04:51:15.600 A guy who maybe has a standard job, because I'm a bit of an outlier in terms of my earning potential here, but a guy who has a normal job, it might be a bit more important to him as far as money goes because he's going to maybe want more of a 50-50, but the amount of money that I'm intending to make, my girl's not going to need to work. 0.97

04:51:36.640 So, if she wants to, she can, but I don't really see the point of her having a, like a 40, slaving away at a $40,000 job when I could just be supporting the both of us.

04:51:50.440 But, anyways, we talked, this is one of our final things.

04:51:57.340 We talked about body count quite substantially tonight.

04:51:59.780 So, I think all of you said, or at least the impression I got was that body count should not matter or doesn't matter.

04:52:09.840 I want to just go around the table, yes or no, on this.

04:52:13.320 Body count?

04:52:14.540 Yes.

04:52:15.400 For guys, shouldn't matter?

04:52:18.000 I guess, well, since it's more so from the frame, maybe you guys don't care about the guy's body count, but should men not care about the women's body count?

04:52:27.140 Or should body count?

04:52:27.780 If it's extreme, it's okay to care.

04:52:30.800 If it's in the past and not extreme, I don't think it should matter that much.

04:52:34.380 Okay.

04:52:34.640 So, how about just yes or no, should body count matter?

04:52:39.100 Yeah.

04:52:39.700 No.

04:52:40.640 Okay.

04:52:41.080 That's hard.

04:52:41.740 It's okay to have preferences, but it shouldn't be the only thing that you're valuing.

04:52:45.300 Right.

04:52:45.320 That's the same answer.

04:52:47.540 Can you just pop that off the water off the table?

04:52:49.840 Mm-hmm.

04:52:51.060 What about you?

04:52:52.640 I agree with them.

04:52:54.000 Like, it definitely matters in certain instances, but I think that in general, like, someone who...

04:52:59.780 Into the mic.

04:53:00.760 Into the mic. 0.98

04:53:01.320 Like, someone who is, like, actively in a loyal relationship, they're not going out every week and, like, fucking a new guy, it shouldn't matter. 0.97

04:53:10.180 Okay. 0.94

04:53:10.680 So, 50 body count shouldn't matter.

04:53:12.500 I mean, if they have been, like, a couple years ago, they saw the light and now they're at home playing World of Warcraft six hours a day instead, going to the clubs.

04:53:22.440 Like, you know, that's, I think, long enough that it says something about their growth as a person.

04:53:29.840 Sure.

04:53:31.320 If they're clean, no.

04:53:33.720 Shouldn't matter?

04:53:34.420 Okay.

04:53:34.660 I think it's a double standard, so no, I don't think it should matter.

04:53:39.440 Okay, the double standard thing, okay.

04:53:41.120 I also don't think it should matter.

04:53:43.000 It's of the past and it has nothing to do with your current relationship.

04:53:45.880 Okay, so my next question is, I think almost all of you said body count shouldn't matter, doesn't matter.

04:53:53.120 If body count doesn't matter, what's your body count?

04:53:56.280 It doesn't matter in a relationship, but I'm not going to say it here for my career-wise and, like, everything-wise.

04:54:04.900 Why would your job care about?

04:54:06.440 Because that's something private.

04:54:07.460 That's something that I bring into a relationship.

04:54:09.180 I'm not going to tell random strangers.

04:54:10.360 Yeah, it's just personal.

04:54:10.920 Yeah.

04:54:11.600 You can start with yours.

04:54:13.480 Well, I think body count matters, so I wouldn't disclose it, but.

04:54:16.700 I don't think it matters in a relationship, but I'm not ready to tell the world.

04:54:19.980 I don't really care what, I don't want people to know what.

04:54:23.240 But if body count just shouldn't matter, it's just a social construct, if it's not a big deal, then you ought to be comfortable sharing it.

04:54:31.000 It's still personal business.

04:54:32.260 Yes, it's none of your business.

04:54:33.960 If I was a virgin, I wouldn't be saying to everyone that I meet on the street, hey, I'm a virgin.

04:54:38.420 Well, when asked the question, if you, I guess I'm saying, be the change you want to see in the world.

04:54:44.940 If body count doesn't matter, then you ought to be willing to share it.

04:54:48.220 Right, same goes for you, though.

04:54:50.380 So, like, share it, and then we will.

04:54:51.960 But I've just said that I think body count matters, ergo, good word, by the way, I'm not going to share my body count.

04:55:02.360 That makes no sense.

04:55:03.800 It makes perfect sense.

04:55:04.920 It makes perfect sense.

04:55:05.840 Because if any one of you said, I think body count matters, I don't want to share it.

04:55:09.200 I said it's okay to have preferences, so.

04:55:10.740 Yeah, we all did.

04:55:11.800 What's your body count?

04:55:14.580 Let's keep that for the imagination.

04:55:16.360 Oh, Cade, come on.

04:55:17.960 Chat.

04:55:18.240 Okay, let me ask you, over 100?

04:55:22.980 It's in triple digits.

04:55:24.460 Okay, I'll take that.

04:55:25.840 I'll take that.

04:55:26.640 Thank you, Cade, appreciate that.

04:55:28.100 So, what about you, Sam?

04:55:30.100 Do you know?

04:55:30.340 I agree.

04:55:30.820 I think that there are some things that are best kept to yourself, and especially if there's

04:55:36.140 people in the room who are judgmental in either direction, I don't believe that it's important

04:55:42.220 for them to know if, especially if we're not dating.

04:55:49.140 There's no point for me to share my body count.

04:55:52.780 18.

04:55:54.020 A little closer to the mic.

04:55:55.380 18.

04:55:56.940 Personal business, no point to share.

04:55:59.020 I've been with six people.

04:56:03.020 Okay.

04:56:04.160 Okay.

04:56:05.020 Well, I mean, for those of you who refuse to share, I mean, I think, you know, you say

04:56:11.120 one thing about body count not being important and it doesn't matter yet.

04:56:15.020 It's not in the same context.

04:56:16.180 It's like in a relationship.

04:56:17.620 Yeah.

04:56:18.160 Deep down, I think deep down, your refusal to answer the question would indicate to me

04:56:23.600 No, this is on, this is live streamed.

04:56:25.760 If I was talking to a guy one-on-one, that would be a different answer.

04:56:28.140 Would you tell me after the show privately?

04:56:30.080 If you're not going to share it.

04:56:31.240 I'm not going to share it.

04:56:31.980 Yeah.

04:56:32.280 Yeah.

04:56:32.560 Okay.

04:56:32.820 Yeah.

04:56:33.120 All right.

04:56:33.520 Fair enough.

04:56:34.200 They won't share that.

04:56:35.580 Hey, that's fine.

04:56:36.500 And then, very last thing here, you made a comment about the age thing, that I would

04:56:43.040 be okay dating someone who's 18.

04:56:44.560 So, you take quarrel with that, or you take issue with that, or are you just curious, like,

04:56:49.820 what's up?

04:56:50.300 Love doesn't have a number.

04:56:51.600 Or, like, do what you want.

04:56:54.280 I think it's a little bit weird.

04:56:56.000 Like, imagine taking home, like, going home to your parents' house, taking home an 18-year-old,

04:57:00.560 you know?

04:57:01.580 And introducing her to my parents.

04:57:02.940 Well, what if she's a very family-oriented woman, and her priority is like, I know some

04:57:09.540 young girls that are like, I want to get married. 0.96

04:57:12.280 I want to be a mom.

04:57:13.060 It's just like, the different life experiences you've had, I feel like there's no possible

04:57:17.500 way y'all will be on the same level in maturity.

04:57:19.980 You know, you're just, you know.

04:57:22.580 You mentioned maturity, right?

04:57:26.260 Like, as someone, okay, most of the women that I date are within a few years of me. 0.94

04:57:34.520 So, I'd say, I'm 33, so I'm dating mostly, like, I'd say women between 28, 29, 30, 31,

04:57:40.640 32, you know, around my age.

04:57:42.080 I, the oldest I've dated is 45.

04:57:44.360 So, like, it's not like, oh, I'm hyper-fixated on dating younger women.

04:57:48.560 Would, do I find younger women the most, like, a 21-year-old the most physically attractive? 1.00

04:57:55.280 Yes.

04:57:56.480 Would it be my preference?

04:57:58.000 Yes.

04:57:58.700 Can I get it?

04:57:59.520 That's another, that's another conversation to be had. 0.98

04:58:01.880 But you talked about maturity, and I can tell you, having dated professional women, career women, bro, I deal with the same bullshit at all ages.

04:58:16.980 Like, I know both of you are a bit young, but I guarantee you, when you, if you guys are still, if you guys don't have a partner when you're in your 30s, 0.99

04:58:25.020 y'all are still going to be dealing with the same fucking bullshit, I guarantee you. 0.98

04:58:30.240 Actually, I have a couple written down of some recent bullshitteries that I've had with women around my age. 0.99

04:58:36.820 Okay, 28-year-old graduate student, 28, by the way, grad student, right?

04:58:43.020 She flaked on me 10 minutes before we were supposed to meet, not even the legitimate excuse. 0.99

04:58:47.880 As I was already driving to the date, by the way, 29-year-old registered nurse.

04:58:53.220 She flaked on me two hours before we were supposed to meet because she had her last-minute realization that she wasn't ready to date again

04:59:00.080 because she had just gone out of a long-term relationship.

04:59:03.560 Maybe she should have figured that out before downloading a dating app, filling in a profile, matching with me, conversing with me, scheduling a date, and waiting until the last minute. 1.00

04:59:12.060 29, by the way.

04:59:13.340 31-year-old systems engineer, three months fresh out of a major trauma-filled relationship.

04:59:18.900 We go on a date.

04:59:20.080 She wants to meet up again.

04:59:21.520 She texts me.

04:59:23.220 She asks me when I'm free next, only to flake the day of and text me saying,

04:59:28.100 been doing some thinking and realize I'm not ready for a relationship yet.

04:59:31.980 And she's still trying to get over her ex. 1.00

04:59:35.400 Rafa, oh, okay. 1.00

04:59:36.920 Ah, shit. 1.00

04:59:39.200 I can't say that. 1.00

04:59:40.600 I'll skip that one.

04:59:42.040 Okay, we have this.

04:59:43.080 There was a 37-year-old chemistry professor. 1.00

04:59:46.100 Oh, shit. 0.99

04:59:46.640 I shouldn't. 1.00

04:59:48.360 There's a professor at a university.

04:59:51.800 We matched on a dating app.

04:59:53.120 We talked for a bit, planned a date.

04:59:54.380 She flaked the day of because a lot of things that happened in my personal life recently, including a breakup five to six weeks ago,

05:00:01.240 buying a house, and I really don't feel like dating.

05:00:04.220 I haven't been clear at all about that.

05:00:05.640 I don't really have time nor the headspace to date for the foreseeable future.

05:00:08.760 37-year-old, by the way, highly successful, established career woman. 0.99

05:00:14.140 This is basic shit you figure out before even fucking downloading a dating app. 0.99

05:00:20.100 It's so funny you had that same situation. 1.00

05:00:22.020 I just had that same situation less than a month ago with a 37-year-old woman. 1.00

05:00:25.560 Professor?

05:00:26.320 Not a professor.

05:00:27.260 Oh, just like.

05:00:27.980 She was a past model. 0.88

05:00:31.040 Yeah, so like, okay, 31, and here's the last one, guys.

05:00:34.340 I went on a date with this 31-year-old clinical cancer researcher.

05:00:40.860 She shows up 30 minutes late for the date. 1.00

05:00:44.520 I arrived exactly on time because I'm punctual.

05:00:49.160 She doesn't, when she finally shows up, by the way, she texts me like five minutes after the planned meet time saying she'll be there in 10 minutes, ends up being 30 minutes late.

05:00:59.180 If you're going to be late, you should text the person well in advance so they can arrange when they leave, but that's besides the point.

05:01:08.020 She's 30 minutes late.

05:01:09.340 She shows up.

05:01:10.100 She doesn't even give me a token apology, not even like, hey, I'm sorry I'm late.

05:01:16.620 Okay, I nosedive the date.

05:01:18.640 I'm done.

05:01:19.360 Like, I'm sorry. 0.94

05:01:20.020 That's just so fucking disrespectful. 0.99

05:01:22.660 So the point I'm trying to make is if I'm going to be dealing with this bullshit with women my age, I'm just going to, why would I not just get a woman who's more attractive, lower body count, less likely to have an STD? 1.00

05:01:36.880 So if I'm dealing with, like, you talk about, Brian, you should date women your own age because they're more mature. 0.99

05:01:44.020 They're not.

05:01:44.680 Okay, those are bad experiences, yeah, but no matter what age you are, you're going to have bad experiences on some dates.

05:01:50.500 That's just inevitable.

05:01:51.740 I have an ex-fiancee and she's 32 years old and I've dated 19-year-olds that have far more maturity than my ex-fiancee.

05:01:58.360 And actually, what I would say is, a lot of these women, their objection was, I just got out of a relationship.

05:02:07.360 Now, that could happen with a younger girl, but... 1.00

05:02:09.420 Why are you going on dates with girls that just got out of a relationship?

05:02:12.100 Why are they on the dating apps, scheduling dates?

05:02:15.580 Why aren't those red flags for you, but body count is?

05:02:18.500 Well, maybe they didn't tell you until...

05:02:20.000 They didn't tell me straight up.

05:02:21.720 That's what we're saying.

05:02:22.860 Dating as a man is much harder.

05:02:24.760 We don't even know this is going to come into play until the last second.

05:02:27.940 Everyone has bad experiences going on dates like that.

05:02:30.860 No, but this is a rebuttal to you saying you don't have anything in common with a girl who's 19 or 21.

05:02:39.360 I'm not saying that, but, like, let's say you want to get married to this girl, you know.

05:02:44.200 She's not going to be able to drink at your wedding. 1.00

05:02:46.260 I don't really drink, so I don't care.

05:02:47.880 She doesn't know what it's like to hold a real job or have a college education, you know, 0.97

05:02:52.700 or know anything about, like, doing real-world things.

05:02:55.860 I don't think you should get married at 18, 19.

05:02:58.540 You can date her for two, three years, but, I mean...

05:03:02.180 And it could turn into...

05:03:03.160 It could turn into something extremely serious, and by that point, she might be a mom.

05:03:09.520 He might make her a mom by that point, by the time she's 22. 0.72

05:03:13.120 Whatever floats your boat.

05:03:14.440 I just think it's a little weird.

05:03:16.160 Why?

05:03:17.080 Articulate it.

05:03:17.680 Why is it weird?

05:03:18.440 I've been telling you.

05:03:19.680 Because...

05:03:20.280 Because there's no commonality?

05:03:22.340 No, not...

05:03:22.560 What do men and women have in common to begin with?

05:03:27.240 Who's the oldest woman here? 1.00

05:03:28.960 Who's the...

05:03:29.560 I'm looking for something in common with my partner, personally.

05:03:32.560 Like, when I look for someone, I try to have a lot of commonalities with them,

05:03:36.260 at least in terms of goals and future.

05:03:38.140 Like, I want them to want to have a family and raise it wholesomely.

05:03:42.200 Like, there's lots of things that a lot of men right now don't want, and it's kind of hard to find that type of person, you know?

05:03:49.400 So it's important to have similar things in common.

05:03:53.580 But so why is it weird?

05:03:55.420 It's not.

05:03:56.320 No, she said it's weird.

05:03:57.480 Why is it weird?

05:03:58.300 So it's not inherently weird.

05:04:00.040 I'm not asking you.

05:04:00.540 If you guys have a bunch of common.

05:04:01.920 I'm not asking you.

05:04:02.700 I'm asking her.

05:04:03.480 Okay.

05:04:04.160 I feel like I've already said, just because you can say, like, oh, you're going to run into immature people everywhere.

05:04:10.380 But when you look at a 33-year-old versus an 18-year-old, who's going to be more mature?

05:04:14.940 I mean, come on.

05:04:16.060 Like, the 18-year-old just...

05:04:17.780 There's no chance.

05:04:18.460 As I just said, my ex-fiancee is 32, and I've found significantly more mature 19-year-olds than my ex-fiancee, 32.

05:04:28.700 Which is when I realized she could never be a mother to my children, which is when I checked out.

05:04:34.220 Here, let me ask you a question.

05:04:35.860 What advantages are there to dating a woman who is 31 versus 21? 0.56

05:04:43.020 I mean, I don't know.

05:04:44.700 That's for you to decide.

05:04:46.080 Less trauma.

05:04:47.620 Less trauma, which is very important.

05:04:49.420 Not necessarily.

05:04:50.140 Less bias.

05:04:51.200 Less baggage.

05:04:52.200 Less trauma.

05:04:53.560 It's also like midnight.

05:04:54.600 Yeah, we're going to wrap.

05:04:55.700 We're going to wrap.

05:04:56.180 The life experience of a 33-year-old in comparison to an 18-year-old is night and day.

05:05:00.600 Thank you.

05:05:02.300 I mean...

05:05:03.420 Somebody who possibly just got out of living with their parents, never lived on their own,

05:05:06.820 never paid a single bill on their own, never knows what it's like to struggle in comparison

05:05:10.380 to a 33-year-old that has gone through most of that stuff already.

05:05:14.500 I have sex in common with a 21-year-old. 0.82

05:05:17.120 Okay, but you said you only have sex with people that you fall in love with. 0.99

05:05:20.140 Exactly.

05:05:20.420 I did not say that.

05:05:21.940 You did.

05:05:22.720 I did not say that. 0.87

05:05:23.640 He says he has sex with women that he sees potential in. 0.99

05:05:26.260 No, he says he has sex with people. 1.00

05:05:28.380 He only has sex with girls that he loves. 0.97

05:05:32.020 You said that multiple times. 0.82

05:05:33.320 18 versus 33-year-old?

05:05:34.840 Hold on.

05:05:35.160 No, no, no.

05:05:35.580 Hold on.

05:05:36.280 I never said that.

05:05:37.680 He never said that.

05:05:38.540 I never said that.

05:05:39.720 Andrew Tate said something about women should only sleep with men they love.

05:05:44.300 I never said anything about needing to love a girl to sleep with her. 0.60

05:05:48.860 You mentioned that you only have sex with girls that you love.

05:05:53.640 I never said that.

05:05:54.920 I heard you say it multiple times.

05:05:55.960 You never said that. 0.93

05:05:56.740 You also said you could have sex for sport. 0.74

05:06:00.280 Did you not?

05:06:02.320 He said sport and recreation, and then he retracted it.

05:06:05.680 No.

05:06:06.380 I don't think you ever retracted it.

05:06:07.520 You guys are putting some words into my mouth here.

05:06:09.380 And I never said that I need to be in love with a girl to sleep with her.

05:06:16.440 How can you reconcile that statement with me saying that of the long-term relationships

05:06:22.440 I've had, of which there's been three or four of them that have been over a year, I said

05:06:28.960 I slept with them on the second or third date.

05:06:31.600 Do you think I was in love with them on the second or third date?

05:06:33.980 No.

05:06:34.600 You said, from my recollection, you said something about sleeping with girls that

05:06:39.360 you love or have.

05:06:41.240 You must, I never said that.

05:06:43.460 I think you're taking it wrong.

05:06:44.720 I think you're misunderstanding.

05:06:45.800 He said you should sleep with people who you, who you love.

05:06:50.020 Not sleeping.

05:06:50.820 Maybe if I misunderstood, then I apologize, but I do feel like you are contradicting yourself.

05:06:56.580 How am I contradicting myself?

05:06:57.720 In regards to your original statement about recreation, sport, the way that you have talked

05:07:06.100 about sex in the beginning of this conversation, the way you're talking about it now, you just

05:07:09.300 talked about, oh, having sex with a 21-year-old as if you hook up with people when you clearly 0.70

05:07:14.200 said you don't do hookups. 0.97

05:07:17.220 Well, he can fall in love with a 21-year-old.

05:07:19.160 What's wrong with that?

05:07:19.820 I'm kind of not following.

05:07:22.840 I definitely didn't say that you need to be in love with someone before you sleep with

05:07:26.940 them.

05:07:27.280 I know for sure.

05:07:28.100 Can you not just say if I misunderstood, then I apologize, and I moved on from that?

05:07:32.160 Okay.

05:07:32.960 Miscommunication then.

05:07:34.060 Okay.

05:07:34.320 So, we don't really have much time to dive super deep into the age gap stuff, but ultimately,

05:07:41.940 there was one last thing.

05:07:47.440 Does anyone, well, okay, while I try to remember that before I give the outro, does anyone have

05:07:52.740 a final thought?

05:07:54.680 Final thought? 0.99

05:07:56.540 It's fucking late. 0.95

05:07:57.560 I'm sorry, guys. 0.98

05:07:58.360 We went fucking super late. 0.67

05:08:00.060 Yeah, this was crazy. 0.99

05:08:01.640 Yeah, it was insane.

05:08:04.320 I'm trying to think what the last thing was about the age gap.

05:08:13.500 Whatever.

05:08:14.240 Okay.

05:08:16.340 We'll wrap there, guys. 0.99

05:08:17.960 It's been a long fucking show. 0.97

05:08:20.680 Thank you guys for tuning in tonight. 0.99

05:08:23.800 We went super long.

05:08:25.360 It was crazy.

05:08:26.940 Guys, you can be doing anything else, but you're here with me.

05:08:29.640 I appreciate that.

05:08:31.000 I want to give a big thank you to the panel.

05:08:32.520 We went way late, so thank you.

05:08:36.100 And also, sorry that we did go a bit late here.

05:08:38.420 Just all the super chats and the conversation was spicy.

05:08:41.340 Thanks to everyone who super chatted and supports the show.

05:08:44.080 I really appreciate you.

05:08:45.160 Thank you to our chat mods, Zach, Candice, Nemesis, Urameshi, Cadigan.

05:08:52.780 Thank you for becoming a member.

05:08:54.880 Eric, you might be able to pull that one up in StreamYard.

05:09:00.260 And yo, thank you to Eric, the top producer.

05:09:03.920 Once again, big thank you to the panel.

05:09:05.620 Thank you guys for your patience here.

05:09:07.640 While we went super late, I need to be wrapping these at 10 p.m.

05:09:11.540 Like, it's just, I, maybe the chat, you can give me feedback.

05:09:17.160 How do I manage all the super chats?

05:09:19.500 Because I want to read your guys' super chats, but obviously the super chats are pretty,

05:09:22.880 they're a big factor in the conversation continuing.

05:09:29.080 So, did it pop up on StreamYard?

05:09:31.740 Cadigan, thank you for the membership, man.

05:09:33.680 Guys, we will be live again Sunday.

05:09:36.500 There you go.

05:09:36.920 You can pull it up.

05:09:37.520 Thank you, man.

05:09:37.880 Appreciate the support.

05:09:39.600 Guys, we'll be live again Sunday at 7 p.m.

05:09:43.280 Today's Tuesday, right?

05:09:44.260 It's today, Tuesday?

05:09:44.980 Yeah, we'll be live again Sunday at 7 p.m. Pacific.

05:09:48.400 Thank you guys for tuning in.

05:09:50.020 We will see you guys next time.

05:09:51.680 Have a good night, guys.

05:09:53.360 And we will see you later.

05:09:54.720 Good night, guys.

Whatever Podcast - February 05, 2023

Dating Talk #47

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