Dating Talk #48
Episode Stats
Length
3 hours and 38 minutes
Words per Minute
155.97174
Hate Speech Sentences
129
Summary
This is the most fucked up episode of Whatever Dating Talk we ve ever done, and it s all because of a stupid fire alarm. We can t get to the fire alarm because it s in a two-story loft, and we don t know how to fix it. We call maintenance and ask them to come fix it, but it s still not working. We also find out that 6 girls flaked on the show because of car trouble.
Transcript
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La donna è mobile, qual piuma il vento, muta d'accento e di pensiero.
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Sempre un'amabile, legge addroviso, impianto in riso e menzognero.
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La donna è mobile, qual piuma il vento, muta d'accento e di pensiero.
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La donna è mobile, qual piuma il vento, muta d'accento e di pensiero.
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Welcome to the Whatever Dating Talk Podcast, coming to you live.
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Guys, the fire alarm battery needs to be changed.
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Guys, everything that could have gone wrong before the show has gone wrong.
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Anyways, guys, we're coming to you live from Santa Barbara, California, every Sunday and
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One in the chat, if you guys can hear the beep.
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It's also Snafu, situation normal, all fucked up.
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We might have to fix that, guys, because it's incredibly distracting.
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I don't know what dipshit building, making this loft would put a fire alarm to...
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Oh, so, call maintenance, man, and have him join...
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So, if anyone does come fix it, it's going to have to be...
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Guys, this is going to be the most fucked up stream ever.
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So, a few quick announcements, guys, before the show begins.
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One of the chicks, this OnlyFans chick, claims that her car, car trouble, I offered to pay
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All super chats will be displayed in Stream Overlay.
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To become a channel member, hit that join button.
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I'm going to get through the intro, and then you and me are going to...
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We're going to go get the fucking ladder, boys.
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I don't even know if the ladder is going to fit.
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Literally, right as we started streaming, the fucking fire alarm battery started bus...
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Let me see if I can get a photo of how fucking high up it is and show it to the camera.
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Okay, so if you want to be on the show or help the show, DM at whatever on Instagram.
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If you're in Santa Barbara, I'm looking for a talent booker and a co-host.
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So big shout-out to Chaz, who's been helping out behind the scenes.
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And big thank you to our chat mods, Zach, Candice, Nemesis, Urameshi, and Michael Matroke IV.
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And yeah, without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.
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So please tell us your name, age, and occupation.
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I'm an actress, mechanic, small business owner, and student.
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I'm 25, and I used to model, but now I work in a hotel.
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Thank you for joining us, and welcome back, by the way.
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Everyone's Instagrams are in the description, guys.
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If you're just tuning in, we're having a major foobar, snafu situation.
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The fire alarm battery, just as we started streaming, is fucking up.
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So we might have to go on a mission really quick to go fucking find a ladder to...
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My landlord will probably evict me if I'm fucking firing a BB gun in the apartment.
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I'm pretty sure if I fire a BB gun in this apartment, I'm getting evicted.
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I just really don't think that they would evict you.
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Can you guys hear the stupid fire alarm battery?
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Current relationship status, longest relationship, and sexual orientation.
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My longest relationship was four and a half years on and off, and I'm straight.
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My longest relationship was five years, and I'm bisexual.
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My longest relationship was two and a half years, and I am straight.
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My longest relationship was roughly seven months, and I'm pansexual.
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Last time you were on the show, you were in a relationship.
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Yeah, it's rough, though, because we were kind of talking for, like, three months, and
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So, in my head, we were together for seven months, because I was crushing on him hard.
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He felt like we had a lot of stuff to work on, and he wanted to do it separately and
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So, because I remember last time you were on the show, you had mentioned that you, he
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was only the second person you were with, correct?
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Because you had, you had remained a virgin until you were 24, 25, was it?
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And so, has there been a number three or not yet?
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Your seven-month boyfriend, you guys never had sex?
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I mean, we fooled, so my boy, ex-boyfriend and I fooled around.
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So, like, you know, there was oral, there was all that, but never home run.
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He broke up with me at the beginning of December.
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So, you were, and you added a number to your body count after the breakup.
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So, you, why didn't you sleep with your boyfriend?
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Um, there was some personal issues that he was going through, and I was respecting that.
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He, it was just hard for him to kind of get out of his head, if that makes sense.
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I don't want to put him on blast or anything, but.
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Just, there was, he kind of sometimes would get into his head, which I respected, and so.
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And then, you know, seven months is a long time.
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And so, kind of after a while, it was like, oh, like, and then the kind of insecurities
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I was like, maybe he doesn't want to sleep with me.
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So, it wasn't because you didn't want to have sex.
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Like I said, it was, he just had personal things that he wanted to work through, and
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I was respecting his choices and realized that he wanted to work on that.
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And then, it's a little ironic that he dumped me because we had to work on stuff.
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Are you still seeing that guy, or was it just like a one-time thing?
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I mean, it was, yeah, no, no, not, it's not anything official.
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And just really quick again, your two current relationship status and longest relationship,
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I broke up with my four and a half year boyfriend because he was seeing another girl and they're
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So you, you're crushing, um, what, what have you been doing romantically in those five
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Um, well, I, I had a two year boyfriend after him.
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So that was like, I think from my freshman or sophomore year of college for four and a
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And then I dated someone for two years after him.
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And then it's been five years, but I've just been dating and not dating and talking to boys
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Cause a lot of times people say they're single, but they're sleeping with one, two, three people.
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So I'm just curious, like, are you currently seeing a guy?
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You might not be boyfriend or girlfriend with him, but are you seeing a guy?
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Cause I don't, I feel like when I talk to people, it's not like, I don't talk to these
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Like sometimes I'll talk to people like once a week or once a month or like, I guess it
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just depends, but I don't like, there's like, like, I know there's nothing there.
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So I feel like I'm like a hundred percent single.
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Like I wouldn't like put my eggs in one basket.
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So when you say you're talking to a guy, do you mean you're sleeping, hooking up with
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Um, I mean, I will hook up with people that I do talk to occasionally or like, I guess
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I would say I'm not seeing the people that I'm seeing in the sense of dating.
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But what are you, what are you doing with them?
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I feel like all the people that I have talked to probably in the past year going nowhere,
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but I do talk to people like, like I'll, I'll talk to more than one person at the same time.
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But like, that's because we don't talk consistently.
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Or like, if I see someone, I see someone, but it's not like, oh, I'm not going to make
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I have, I have many guy friends, but I have been, um, I've gotten really comfortable with
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telling everyone that I just want to be friends.
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Like I'm, I'm just, I like, I'm just, I'm just, I'm so easy about it.
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But I've done, um, a lot of horror movies, some lifetime movies.
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If anyone buys it, I'll get a little check in the mail.
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It was, I was, um, it was a small role, but it was an amazing show and awesome cast to be
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Um, I got to set and the director gave us a new monologue to memorize in two minutes.
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We got that confused at the beginning of the show.
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We thought you were Australian, but you're actually Brazilian.
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Well, I just got dumped and that's why I'm traveling.
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So, um, I was here before in November and then I started seeing this guy, started hitting
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And then as I went to Brazil for a month and then came, was about to return.
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And then the guy messaged me and said, Hey, I started seeing someone else.
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So on the, as I am on a plane, um, I started planning my trip to come to California instead
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We started talking while I was in Australia for a month and then we were seeing each other
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It was just like something that we were studying.
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And while we kind of went into all your stuff, so I'm curious, and I don't know if we dived
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into this last time you were on the show, why, why again, did you, uh, wait so long
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And when I was raised, I was like, it was drilled into my brain.
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It has to be, you know, this, this, and this, and you have to be a lady.
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And just, if it wasn't perfect, like movie perfect, then it was not going to be good.
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Um, and so kind of as I grew a little bit more and kind of explored my own sexuality,
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I was kind of like, wait, this isn't that scary.
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And, um, yeah, there was someone that was super comfortable with.
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So you've been with two guys and you're six foot one.
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So of the two guys you've been with, have they been shorter than you?
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So is that a requirement for a partner for you?
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How tall are the guys that you've been with though?
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I mean, you say that they don't have to be taller than you, but the two guys you have
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So truth be told the, it seems like kind of shorter guys have a bigger problem with it
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So I, some, some short guys might be scared, I guess.
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But most like, I wouldn't say, I would say it's typically an issue on the girl side.
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No, you, you think the height thing is, is a man issue, not a women issue.
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There are, we like, there are some women that may be one, I'm taller, but the amount of guys
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that I hear that are insecure about their height, when I truly don't see it that way, it's not
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So someone who's short could certainly be insecure about their height, but they could still
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be perfectly willing to date a woman who's tall.
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Whereas a lot of women who are tall are not prepared to date a guy who's shorter than
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Most of the time when I talk to a guy that's insecure about his height, he's not comfortable
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to talk, I'm dating someone who is taller than him though.
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I can pull out all my guy friends and talk to them and expose them and be like, so.
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No, but like a guy who's five, five, if a girl who's five, eight shows him attention, he's
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So like a guy who's six foot and a girl who's taller?
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A guy that's like five, eight and a girl that's six foot is where I was thinking.
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Is there anybody five, eight in the chat that, okay, short guys here, everyone in the chat
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Let's say, would you date a woman who's five inches taller than you?
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One in the chat, if you would date a woman who's five inches taller than you two in the
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chat, if, if she's taller than you, sorry, just, you're not interested.
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So I need to rant a little bit before I get into my first topics.
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One, there's a couple, two, there's some twos, a lot of ones.
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Um, yeah, on this one, it just takes a while to pop up stream yard, slow like that.
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Um, by the way, guys, so I might, so for, for the, uh, super chats guys, I may bring
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The thing is, is that last show we had it at 10 for the first hour.
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Then we bumped it to, uh, super chats over 20 to be read and, uh, all super chats will
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be shown, but to be read answered, we, we boosted it to, uh, over 20.
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The, by the way, I love the support, but just, we had so much volume in super chats and it
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And I love that you guys send all these super chats, but the show went five hours and it's
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I don't want to say that, but like, I want to make sure I get the girls home at a reasonable
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So, um, we might bump it down though, to 10, just because we got a kind of a more intimate
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So, um, get your super chats in and we'll see how the show goes.
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But, uh, and by the way, we do have TTS that's $50 and up.
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I'll just show you guys a little something special.
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So, well, I don't know if anyone's going to trigger the asteroid, we have an asteroid trigger
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So, uh, maybe I'll save it for an appropriate time.
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I, sometimes I'll just trigger the asteroid on my own anyways.
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Well, if you had to lean in one way, is there a direction?
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Do you want to revise or are you sticking with men?
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No, I'm sticking with men because a lot of my friends are guys and I've seen them flake
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on so many plans and I feel like I make it to everything I can say yes to.
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I don't think that men and women can really be friends.
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I think that if you're both open with the communication, I think you can be friends.
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If you were to text one of your guy friends, let's assume they're single, right?
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And you said, hey, would you like to come over tonight and hook up?
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You know, you could put it in, you could phrase it more organically.
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I think they'd be a little weirded out that I was asking them to hook up because I have,
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I've made clear boundaries with all my guy friends and I've never hooked up with the people
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I call my best friends because then they probably wouldn't be friends in the future.
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But do you think if given the opportunity, some of your male friends would hook up with you?
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I think if given the opportunity, probably yes.
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But also, like, we've all defined boundaries to where that just won't happen.
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So are they really friends, though, if given the opportunity, they wouldn't hook up with you?
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Um, I mean, talk to any guy, like, I mean, any, you could ask any guy to hook up with any girl and he may say yes.
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And, like, I just think that, I don't know, it's, this is a weird question.
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I, I know that I wouldn't hook up with my best friends because I don't want to.
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Have, have you ever had a friend that turned into something more?
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You started as friends and then at some point down the road, you hooked up or you ended up dating them?
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I have, um, well, I have, like, I did start hooking up with an old co-worker, but we stopped hooking up and we're still friends.
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No, but, like, not even, but it's nothing sexual.
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It's, like, like, we talk about, like, our day or something.
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If I was dating a girl and she was, she had a male friend who she previously fucked, that's an issue for me.
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And she, she might pick that guy and I'm, like, see ya.
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So I was put in this situation a lot because I've never hooked up with any of my best friends.
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But I'm really close with my friends and their girlfriends have to know that we're really close.
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And it has been a problem in the past for my guy friends, but we've never crossed a line.
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So it's been an issue for your male friends who have girlfriends.
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You guys go over to each other's house late at night.
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We don't cuddle, but, like, they would come over, like, late at night and hang out.
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But, like, I mean, I sit on the other side of the couch or something.
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Do you think that that would be appropriate behavior when you're married?
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I would hope that my husband would join my friend's group so he'd be there.
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Are you hanging out solo, one-on-one, late at night, in a private setting with another guy?
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I think I'd have to set clear boundaries with my husband about what he's comfortable with.
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But, like, he should also trust me to know that I wouldn't hook up with other people if I'm, like, in a committed marriage.
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It's not even necessarily about what you would or would not do.
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Well, if that's something that he's uncomfortable with, then that's something we can talk about.
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Are you going to hyphenate or are you taking his last name?
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Who here is going to hyphenate if they get married?
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So you're going to hyphenate or you're going to keep your name?
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See, here's what I don't get about the whole hyphenation thing.
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Okay, if two people with hyphenated last names get married,
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Well, so culturally, my middle name, I have a second name,
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and then my middle name is my mom's maiden name,
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So I'll just add another one when I hyphenate it.
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Okay, so we're talking about friendships, right?
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So I feel like I would also accommodate if I had to.
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and you're inviting your male friends to your house
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I need to adjust something on the computer really quick for a sec, guys.
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I'm having a technical issue here with my stream deck.
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Fellas, if your wife hangs out one-on-one with her guy besties when you're out of town, there's
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Oh, so, Carson, by the way, you can still star the 50 TTS.
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You seem to have some feedback on the whole friendship situation thing.
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But, I mean, I've been in the other place where I was jealous of, like, you know, I dated someone
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once where he was still close friends with the women that he hooked up with in the past,
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One, I think it was honestly just something that I had to work through with my own jealousy,
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because if I really trusted that person, then it's fine.
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But I understand it sounds bad if you're married and you're seeing someone one-on-one.
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And so that's why with my guy friends, I do set a lot of boundaries.
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But it's just also about, you know, open communication with the person you're with and trusting that
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if they're uncomfortable, they'll talk to you about it, and then maybe you make some changes.
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But at the end of the day, the person you're with is your priority,
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and making sure that that is known in a statement.
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Well, I think with maturity also comes, like, you need to prioritize who you, what's your priority.
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Yes, you have friends and friends for life, but at the end of the day,
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the person that you're sharing your life with should be your priority.
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So that's a conversation that you're going to have.
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Normally we don't do $5 soup chats, but marriages in which the woman hyphenates her last name
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Let me do these soup chats, and then I need to fix something on the computer really quick.
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By the way, guys, just a reminder, we're going to be doing 20 up, 20 and up from here on out.
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I will do, since there's a bit of confusion about the soup chat thing, I'll do, I'll get
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Carson, only star 20 and up from here on out, okay?
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So guys, from here on out, we're going to do 20 and up.
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It's a known fact that it's up to the woman to retain a man after they hook up.
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What do you think the man you want to marry wants from you for a committed relationship?
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So, I mean, are you talking about the different sexual strategies and kind of metric of success?
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So a man's metric of success is getting the girl.
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The woman's metric of success is retaining the guy.
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I want to keep understanding your point of view.
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Well, the guy's kind of initial goal, like our point of success is sleeping with the girl.
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That's not impressive for a girl to do, to sleep with a guy.
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So your metric of success is being able to keep the guy once you've slept with him.
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Because oftentimes, women don't complain about, oh, I can't get laid.
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When women typically complain about men, it's, he hooked up with me and then he ghosted me.
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Whereas for men, it's usually like, I can't get laid.
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Not, oh, I'm having too much trouble getting laid and then the girls are ghosting me after we fuck.
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It's because she left her boyfriend for a frying pan.
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Like a, you'll, you'll have sex with someone who's trans, for example.
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So I don't really care about looks, gender, heights, anything like that.
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The girl who has the body count of two is wife material.
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I bet anything, she will find a good husband and live a good life.
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Most men will think, oh, she's been ran through.
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You take an L every time you hook up with someone that's not for marriage.
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I'm not sure who this is directed to, but thank you, sir.
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And I need to get someone to help me do all the shorts and stuff because I've been doing
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all that and it's just, it's a bit overwhelming, but thank you, man.
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You're telling me you wouldn't date pansexual Shania over here?
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Height doesn't matter much when you're horizontal in the sheets.
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Call your male friend and say, hey, I was with my girls and you came up.
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I was wondering, have you ever thought about us being more than friends?
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We can't, because we're in California, wiretapping laws, we can't actually call anyone on the
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show, but if you guys are open to it, we could have you guys text your male friends
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a little, like, what you doing or something organic, like a, oh, fuck.
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Do you, any of you want to text one of your male friends really quick and say, hey, do you
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I mean, I could definitely text someone, and I know the response I'll get.
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Nick is going to be like, why are you texting me this?
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She's, she's, yeah, I've been thinking about you lately.
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Is there a part two to this text or is she only saying that?
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What was like that old thing that went viral where like you texted the lyrics of some love
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And I think, I think I might say you as more than a friend.
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I mean, I don't want to say anything of like feelings wise.
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Maybe, maybe just say, I've been thinking about you lately, dot, dot, dot.
00:45:22.840
Hey, it's been a while since I've felt a male not organic.
00:45:32.380
I had to fix something on the computer really quick.
00:45:47.760
But I've been friends with him since like high school.
00:46:06.640
Um, the guy you were going to text, where does he live?
00:46:20.740
Cause this, I mean, this one just says, I've been thinking about you lately.
00:46:39.400
I mean, they're going to be, I could, is that wait, hold on.
00:46:45.380
They're just going to think like, Oh, do you want to get dinner or something?
00:46:50.000
Like what, what is like the ultimate hookup message?
00:47:04.520
Anybody in the chat with a good recommendation for a message that she, okay.
00:47:10.780
We're trying to craft, you can keep it centered.
00:47:13.600
Um, we're trying to craft the perfect message to send to one of her male friends to see if
00:47:19.420
they're truly friends or if he'd be down to hook up with her.
00:47:32.780
Would you be interested in being more than friends?
00:47:37.780
Jay says, Hey, I know we've known each other for a really long time.
00:47:41.500
Do you want to come over tonight and we can maybe have some, I don't know, Jay, that's
00:47:56.520
Nick Chow says, this might sound weird, but are you down to Netflix and chill with me?
00:48:11.100
This might sound random, but are you down to Netflix and chill with me?
00:48:16.080
But then he's like, so the, the person that I'm texting, like, well, you're going to text
00:48:22.060
three, but I don't even think I have like three, like guy friends that I could send that text
00:48:27.300
Like, it's like, so you presented the other ones, they're going to accept it.
00:48:30.200
No, because I feel like, I mean, my, my close friends grew.
00:48:34.840
This group is like one, like one of my best friends and I could like her boyfriend, like
00:48:50.840
This may sound random, but do you want to come over and Netflix and chill?
00:49:04.540
If you make this weird, this is, it's not going to be weird, but like, that's a weird
00:49:16.440
Let me get these other soup chats and we'll check in on that text in a few minutes.
00:49:28.320
I have, I've worked so hard to create boundaries with my male friends.
00:49:44.860
All these dudes in the chat saying they would not give a tall woman a go are really only worried
00:49:51.020
The only way men and women can be friends is if the man has turned her down twice.
00:50:13.840
Yo, Monty, thank you for the big $50 soup chat.
00:50:16.160
Fellas, if your wife hangs out one-on-one with her guy besties when you're out of town.
00:50:28.280
These women want simp-type guys that will allow them to have male friends.
00:50:35.980
It is dangerous grounds for that 1% chance they'll get mad with emotions at their BF and end a serious relationship.
00:51:01.160
He said, I just got back home from the valley, but if you had asked me earlier, I would have been down.
00:51:19.920
There's a difference between, like, acting on it and, like, actually doing.
00:51:27.820
But did he know what he said, what he was going, what he was saying yes to?
00:51:40.120
You need to call him and talk to him after this.
00:51:50.780
No, but the thing is, like, I have set clear boundaries with my friends, so even this text
00:51:55.560
would not change anything, because I still personally would not hook up with them.
00:52:07.500
So, basically, he said he's down to hook up with you.
00:52:15.020
Do you ask a dude, like, do you want to hook up with that girl?
00:52:22.060
I will say, I used to live with a man, and we had honest talks, and he said,
00:52:31.280
every single one of your male friends wants to fuck you.
00:52:38.960
I just, like, there's one thing for them to want to,
00:52:53.540
Does any other girl here want to try this experiment out?
00:53:27.680
Every single show we do, anywhere from two to four, either no show,
00:53:33.680
Usually they flake within a few hours before the show.
00:53:42.120
this is what you're dealing with when you're dating, too.
00:53:47.760
And these are the women that you're supposed to marry.
00:54:00.040
This girl, the OnlyFans girl who was in the thumbnail before,
00:54:05.200
I offered to pay for her Uber to the studio and back,
00:54:22.200
This is not really an experience that women deal with
00:54:26.360
Because when a guy goes through all the trouble
00:54:34.920
Most guys are not going to flake on you on a date.
00:54:45.500
And y'all typically don't give a lot of notice.
00:54:47.880
Y'all flake an hour, two hours, three hours before.
00:55:12.440
is when I should have said no in the first place.
00:56:09.780
Well, it was the day after my sister's wedding.
01:15:28.360
If everyone can just scoot back into the table.
01:16:02.100
I spent millions of dollars on the green screen for this.
01:16:24.620
and then we have flan life Canadian $20 soup chat.
01:16:27.480
I've had a few matches ghost me through bumble and hinge.
01:16:52.760
I'm surprised that women are ghosting and flaking on you,
01:16:57.240
seeing that you're one of the top litigation attorneys in Quebec.
01:17:12.960
I feel like we've reached the end of the topic.
01:17:17.340
and then we were talking about Valentine's day.
01:17:26.960
It's going to be two hours before we're supposed to meet.
01:17:33.060
we're not going to be able to get another most men like most,
01:17:42.600
if they plan a date with you on a Friday or Saturday,
01:17:51.600
but they're probably not going to replace it with another date.
01:18:03.060
for women is like shopping dating for men is like a job interview.
01:18:12.120
charging a premium to use it worse than DLC in video games.
01:18:25.360
maybe a more apt comparison would be women are the employers and men are the
01:18:33.940
So women are want the best candidate for the job.
01:18:47.040
just shoot our shots as many send out our resume to 200,
01:19:30.180
so is Valentine's day something that you guys think that a guy should be doing,
01:19:37.680
or is it like a mutual thing that both partners should be?
01:19:52.860
It's definitely something that you plan together.
01:19:55.180
Like you always checking in if the other person wants to do that.
01:20:15.780
You seem like the type of woman who might slash a man's tires.
01:20:40.460
so when the guy calls you asking what's up with the booty call,
01:20:44.140
did you clear that up or does he still not yet?
01:20:55.800
probably for a tick tock or something like it's got a,
01:21:17.740
What do you rate your looks on a scale of one to 10?
01:22:02.060
I got a little puff because I had caffeine or something.
01:22:05.320
You're allowed to look rough every now and then.
01:22:21.960
The same day flake is a clear indication of lack of genuine burning desire,
01:23:37.800
Why everybody rates themselves as six or eight or whatever,
01:23:49.500
There's a difference between confidence and thinking that you're on par with the
01:24:19.340
someone who's beautiful has like an amazing inside as well as the outside.
01:24:22.580
So like someone who is truly lovely on the inside just glows.
01:24:29.260
Cause maybe someone that I think is just amazing,
01:24:38.000
You're saying someone who's beautiful on the inside,
01:24:55.860
Who's the woman who just got appointed to the Supreme court?
01:25:21.920
do you think people on the outside will agree with your assessment that,
01:25:27.940
I don't speak for anyone but myself and a few of my friends,
01:25:35.140
but I think beautiful has everything to do with your heart and your inside.
01:25:43.480
you can still be a moral and a good person if you're overweight,
01:25:49.320
we're talking about something very specific here.
01:25:56.860
and I think having a positive disposition can make you to some degree more,
01:26:08.880
let's say there's a really good looking man or even a really good looking woman,
01:26:42.480
very few people generally speaking would say that they are physically attractive.
01:26:51.900
it is everyone's opinion or like everyone has an opinion.
01:26:58.000
Like everyone has going to have a different one,
01:26:59.340
but what you said about how some people like when they're beautiful,
01:27:02.560
that's exactly why I started to get my perfect perspective shift.
01:27:14.000
has put in the work to develop and grow themselves.
01:27:19.860
a woman who's just very joyful and kind of effervescent and,
01:27:39.100
if she smiles more because someone who smiles is can just through the act of
01:27:59.940
is it wrong to say that humans have 10 fingers?
01:28:11.060
but it's not wrong to say that humans have 10 fingers.
01:28:25.440
But you have to kind of go off of the general rule.
01:28:32.380
I hear what you're saying and I respect your points.
01:28:35.460
I guess the reason I'm fighting against it is because I was raised in a
01:28:38.700
career during like young childhood where it was nothing but comparison to
01:28:45.600
And I just thought it was so horrible to think that way.
01:28:48.320
So I have done everything I can to see it in a different way and inspire
01:29:05.600
Being overweight isn't just an outward appearance.
01:29:08.700
Being overweight is indicative of guaranteed health problems and a sign of
01:29:23.100
but I get that like there is some psychology to you want to look for a mate
01:29:29.640
it's just like you want to look for someone like that,
01:30:39.760
Miss Australia was doing great until she called herself a 10.
01:30:48.620
Brian will have to come out from Kentucky one day to be a guest.
01:31:10.280
I'm not sure if he's my type until I talk to him properly.
01:31:41.220
Stop letting girls tell you next or they're not going to talk.
01:31:57.500
you were saying going back to the flaky and I was like,
01:32:14.060
we were already on to the Valentine's day thing.
01:32:26.340
I've mentioned plenty of times before that obviously the show is inspired by,
01:32:44.580
So we were talking about the Valentine's thing.
01:32:55.820
What's the most vindictive thing you've done to a guy?
01:33:05.060
You kind of just stop talking to them or just avoid them.
01:33:14.180
Most vindictive thing you've ever done to a guy,
01:33:28.400
but I'll usually just get angry and let it move through.
01:33:50.260
I don't think I've ever done anything vindictive.
01:34:01.120
that was bottling up instead of just letting it go.
01:34:07.180
but I would just say it like you actually like this,
01:34:30.440
I think I thanked you and Dave on in the last show.
01:34:40.260
because if it honestly wasn't for you and Dave on Jackson,
01:34:44.060
who were our most regular consistent and primary patrons in 2022,
01:34:57.380
kind of always being there for this with the support.
01:35:05.840
So is there anything I want to open it up to you guys?
01:35:09.180
Is there anything dating related that you guys want to get off your chest?
01:35:17.860
There's something dating related that frustrates you.
01:35:25.740
I'm opening up to you guys and let's start with Shania.
01:35:41.960
I kind of have to think about what pisses me off.
01:35:58.540
do you guys think that our capability of sticking through things on this world
01:36:28.740
when you see that there are different points of view,
01:36:45.600
And then it's instead of sticking through and wanting to get to know a little bit more and
01:37:01.800
I don't think we can to be honest with the availability that is like you said,
01:37:06.300
with the dating apps and hookup culture and all that,
01:37:16.600
Like if they're going to just drop you so easily,
01:37:21.020
that your time was not meant to be invested there right away.
01:37:35.980
I'm now in the work on where I give a second chance,
01:37:52.800
your accent has been painted by your many travels because it's not,
01:38:17.440
you just move on because there's so many options and ways.
01:38:24.240
can you give us an example of a time when one little thing happened that the guy did
01:38:42.500
it's the hyper offer that we have these days that instead of for everyone,
01:38:51.980
I mean offering like people like just many websites,
01:39:03.440
and taking the time to get to know the person or you literally just move on.
01:39:09.620
when someone was talking about the obesity thing,
01:39:12.380
that's a sign of a health mental health issues.
01:39:16.800
you already judging someone by one thing and then just moving on kind of.
01:39:45.260
women have always had more options than men have had,
01:39:48.260
but now it's on steroids because what you've done is,
01:40:00.660
her pool of partners was in Iowa with now with Instagram and dating apps.
01:40:27.820
She's talking to a dude in Miami who's going to fly her out.
01:40:31.640
So that is going to start boosting her sense of her value on the map
01:40:45.640
Both men and women are competing with more people,
01:40:56.800
we can go around the table really quick on this.
01:41:00.500
but have you ever received an offer from a guy either on a dating app or through
01:41:14.820
So you've been talking to a guy who's in Miami or in law while you live in Los
01:41:40.980
Have you ever offered to fly a guy out who you've met in person?
01:41:46.780
So that's a difference between men and women there in terms of men's willingness to
01:41:58.320
So you've never like matched with a guy on a dating app or a guy slid into your
01:42:10.560
I just feel like people like are so easy to ghost because you don't owe them
01:42:21.460
but it goes both ways because sometimes if I feel like a conversation is dying
01:42:26.340
I won't say something or like depending on my state of mind or if I'm like really
01:42:34.540
It's like sometimes you just need to take a moment to just step away from
01:42:39.080
but also you don't owe those people on the dating apps,
01:42:45.060
So I want to say it's really difficult to tell people to keep talking.
01:42:49.640
But I'm not really sure if that's what you were talking about.
01:42:54.820
it seems like what you're talking about is you've already met,
01:42:59.820
you've been dating for a little bit and then just someone else comes into the
01:43:09.900
you match with someone and then you talk for a little bit.
01:43:14.200
but it seems more so these short term things that don't really lead anywhere.
01:43:19.640
Is that kind of more so what you're talking about?
01:43:22.420
But reality is not everything is going to lead to something and that's fair enough.
01:43:37.780
but it's still like it happens and it's less damaging outside.
01:43:47.400
you put the effort and then something happens in between.
01:43:52.800
and it's not fair and I've done it and it happened to me as well.
01:44:07.020
like there's so many offerings like that and for both for men and women.
01:44:11.820
So I feel like we are all dyslexic this time by right now with dating.
01:44:20.060
one thing that I would say is that in addition to sort of the globalization of the
01:44:24.140
sexual marketplace is you just have so many increased options too,
01:44:30.580
So because of social media and because of dating apps,
01:45:00.480
And do you remember that if you did meet someone,
01:45:06.160
say back when you were 18 or 19 before dating apps really came around,
01:45:13.000
was there a greater likelihood that when you did meet someone that it would,
01:45:22.360
There was a greater likelihood that it would actually go.
01:45:25.160
you might not obviously didn't end up being a husband or anything,
01:45:30.660
there's like a much greater likelihood that it's going to proceed.
01:45:45.280
So we just have an abundance of options and yeah,
01:45:51.380
I'm not what the solution is would probably be to ban dating apps and ban
01:46:01.820
The only other solution would be to find people that are not so heavily on
01:46:17.720
there's recommendations of like doing activities,
01:46:21.380
like activity groups and finding people that way.
01:46:30.800
the entire dating meta is downstream of dating apps because most people meet
01:46:40.500
So it's going to like seep into the rest of the dating marketplace.
01:46:47.800
it changes kind of the dynamic of how people are interacting.
01:46:52.340
So regular dating is downstream of dating apps.
01:47:05.200
I would just want to tell you this very quickly.
01:47:10.400
I think we spent like two weeks talking and then we went on a date.
01:47:16.980
It was one of the best days that I've ever had.
01:47:34.500
the guy messaged me on the next day or like whatever.
01:47:41.180
but I will delete the apps because I think I get distracted if I am talking to other people,
01:48:06.820
I want to get to know you and I'm going to delete the app so I don't get distracted.
01:48:16.080
I think that is a pretty optimal situation to occur from the dating apps.
01:48:28.940
what probably often happens is none of those end up going anywhere.
01:48:34.260
Whereas if you give one an opportunity to flourish,
01:49:24.620
did anyone have a response to her or thoughts on what she said?
01:49:37.940
It's just where we are right now in the dating age.
01:49:52.540
there was a guy that I would have liked to date,
01:50:01.580
there is always someone better and they don't want to settle down or they just want to live their life and they want to do their own thing.
01:50:08.480
And then maybe someone better will come along or they don't want us,
01:50:14.220
they don't want anyone to stop them from doing the plans that they have for their life right now.
01:50:23.340
When's the last time you hung out with a guy that you had a romantic interest in?
01:50:51.740
Last time you hung out with a guy you had a romantic interest in?
01:56:41.340
Fresh and Fit was clearly the inspiration for this show,
01:57:51.320
I don't even think he's like good looking enough now
01:58:27.560
Because he's going to break up with me at some point
01:59:27.460
This is why you never had the makings of a varsity athlete.
01:59:49.440
I also don't know what Tony Soprano looks like.
01:59:53.040
you've been missing premium programming on HBO for way too long.
02:00:04.420
but I am really not into the idea of watching Game of Thrones.
02:00:18.700
Carmela is like a millionaire several times over from her crypto investments.
02:00:23.020
It was primarily Doge and Bitcoin and a bit of Ethereum.
02:00:32.980
she's the way she is because she saw it coming.
02:00:57.200
I like documentaries and docu-series from my hint profile.
02:01:00.660
And I might have to call in one of these times.
02:01:23.720
it was just the very last of it didn't go through.
02:01:40.620
I will purchase for you a premium masquerade ball mask.
02:01:47.700
And I also have a plague doctor mask that you can wear.
02:01:52.100
I don't know if you can maybe do a little zoom in on this.
02:02:16.840
Let me know of those three masks which one you want to wear.
02:02:28.280
I primarily watch documentaries and docu-series.
02:02:44.760
I like true crime or like animal documentaries or surfing ones.
02:03:21.200
Three access powers and three allied powers during World War II.
02:03:36.680
Does anybody know what access and allied powers were?
02:08:26.720
I've been really into surfing documentaries lately.
02:08:33.960
But it's easier to watch than to like actually do.
02:08:40.640
I prefer to watch documentaries than like fictional shows.
02:08:43.900
There was a massive swell like a couple weeks ago.
02:09:12.180
It's like there's like a little beach to the side.
02:09:20.620
There's nothing wrong with comparing yourself to others.
02:09:22.440
Doing that can help drive and motivate people more times than not.
02:09:25.780
Don't you think the power from it all comes from being able to go through it all and stand back up?
02:09:34.480
But if you get caught in comparing yourself to others to where it doesn't, it stops you from moving forward.
02:10:02.260
Girls only go for top 10% of guys that have limitless options and so then complain they can't find anyone.
02:10:09.040
These guys chose someone else instead of the girl.
02:10:35.080
Bringing it back to what you said about, oh, like, people don't want to commit kind of, right?
02:10:49.040
Brian, you're melting their brains just like their makeup.
02:10:52.280
This lack of common historical U.S. knowledge just shows how much women just rely on their beauty.
02:10:59.660
Do you guys want to respond to Zentience, who, by the way, is a neurosurgeon.
02:11:19.440
It was pretty sad for that we didn't know more about our country's history.
02:11:26.540
But it doesn't mean we're not intelligent in our fields.
02:11:32.100
I'm sure that we would come across things to communicate with that you wouldn't know what I know.
02:11:45.100
Just for the sake of Zentience here, I want to ask one more question.
02:12:04.400
Who's coming up to quiz us every day on history?
02:12:09.800
So I feel like if we don't remember what we learned in fifth grade, like, we should...
02:12:45.620
Listen, World War I, 1914 to 1918, by the way, the bad guy and the good guy, it's a bit
02:12:58.300
So Germany, you know, they weren't Nazis then in World War I.
02:13:03.300
So, like, this helmet, you could wear and not get in trouble if you were to wear...
02:13:28.600
I think maybe one of the big problems with it not going anywhere, and you guys can feel
02:13:33.440
free to disagree with me on this, is women can get with guys who are more attractive
02:13:42.620
than them because men will sleep with a girl who we deem as less attractive than us, but
02:13:54.040
And because of this, women are able to hook up with men that are either of a higher socioeconomic
02:14:01.580
status, so either money or they're higher status in some way, or they're just more attractive.
02:14:10.740
They're, in terms of looks equivalent, they're higher than you in terms of their attractiveness.
02:14:16.060
Women can sleep with these men, but those men will never commit to you.
02:14:21.660
So, to address your original thing about, well, why doesn't it go anywhere?
02:14:26.840
A lot of women will gladly sleep with these men, but these men will never commit.
02:14:39.600
No, I agree, I agree to a certain extent, but I'm more, yeah, it's not the case.
02:14:49.480
I think, I think it's, it's more related, we're talking about people that have something
02:14:58.460
We're talking, we're talking about normal people, we're talking about normal people with
02:15:02.740
normal jobs, like, you know, the mass population.
02:15:06.700
We're not talking about, you know, the 1%, millionaires, whatever, I don't give a fuck,
02:15:10.240
but it's more the regular people that I'm talking about, that they actually have so many
02:15:20.140
Regular, when you, you say regular people have so many options, or regular women have
02:15:28.840
Well, Australia is a Western country, and I would, I've never been to Australia, but
02:15:33.800
my sense of it is, is that it's not much different in Australia than it is here, dating-wise.
02:15:45.440
Based on everything that I hear from men, here, from you, from men, people that I met, there's
02:15:57.660
always this illusion, I mean, I don't know, maybe it's not an illusion, but there's always
02:16:02.920
this perception that women have so many options, where in Australia, I've never heard this from
02:16:11.920
I've never heard a man complaining of, about that, in Australia.
02:16:18.760
I mean, I mean, well, simps know no borders, but men have, so you're saying women in Australia
02:16:35.980
No, there are options, like, don't get me wrong, there are options.
02:16:39.060
Okay, let me ask you a question, a clarifying question.
02:16:48.900
How many matches do you get in a 24-hour period?
02:16:57.920
Well, we've got to remember that Australia has 15 times less population than the population
02:17:25.720
Are you just comparing, like, the viewpoint of dating in America versus Australia and how
02:17:43.540
Could you find a guy to sleep with if you go out to a nightclub in Australia?
02:18:05.080
You don't think that you could go to a nightclub?
02:18:28.400
I think, I think all those strange, strange characters might have broken it, Flan Life.
02:18:43.060
It would have been like, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na.
02:18:45.860
Carmela, you never had the makings of a varsity athlete.
02:18:56.120
So, you think if you went to a nightclub in Melbourne, a fine, young, strapping Australian lad would not take you home?
02:19:10.100
Do you go out, do you do nightlife in Australia?
02:19:29.960
Like, it requires, it requires a lot of signals from me, like, a lot, which I'm not used to because I'm Brazilian and in Brazil it's, like, the guy comes up and, yeah, I'm raised like that, so.
02:19:51.860
I feel like Australians are pretty heavy partiers.
02:20:00.620
And they have a lot of fun, but I just never, I don't think I've ever been approached by a guy in Australia, like, in a bar.
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Maybe I have, but it's just not the same as, it's not the same as here.
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I mean, it's, I'm not, I'm not saying it's, you know, it's right or wrong.
02:20:48.120
No, November and then I left and I came back now.
02:20:56.300
When you were here in November or when you've been here now for the past week, have you hooked up with any guys?
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We talked about it in the beginning of the show.
02:21:16.600
So, you're saying that it's, what, I'm just, what are you trying to say?
02:21:26.500
I feel like she's probably trying to say, tell me if I'm wrong, that men in the States are way more, like they approach women a lot more than maybe in Australia.
02:21:37.920
So, you were saying that men don't complain about women in Australia having too many options.
02:21:48.060
I mean, I don't know if there's any Australian guys in the chat, but I would suspect it's fairly similar.
02:21:59.400
Because these, the, the, the, the dynamic between men and women is fairly universal.
02:22:14.180
Yes, but in some countries, they're literally not allowed to come up to you.
02:22:17.700
My sister's in the UAE and like, they cannot come up to you.
02:22:19.780
Well, yeah, there's, sure, Middle Eastern countries, obviously it's a bit different.
02:22:23.160
But Australia is an English speaking Western country.
02:22:27.200
So I just, and there's a pretty heavy party culture in Australia.
02:22:31.180
So I just, I, I, I, look, I've never been to Australia.
02:22:35.700
That might be, that might be my experience only.
02:22:37.520
Sure, you're, you obviously must have more expertise than, than I do.
02:22:47.480
But I think it has to do with, with the ways that you guys are brought up here as well.
02:22:53.740
I think American men, that's my opinion, again, I don't know.
02:22:58.220
But I think American men are raised by strong women, but also like the, you guys are raised to eventually have a family.
02:23:15.240
Yeah, just to sort of like, to develop something, to have a family and stuff like that.
02:23:19.500
I don't think, I don't think Australians in general have that desire.
02:23:24.260
But, um, the culture here, it's a little bit more, um, up for it.
02:23:32.620
I mean, I, it seems to me that, uh, the culture is definitely changing here in the U.S. too.
02:23:40.240
I think a lot of men are opting out of, uh, wanting serious relationships, wanting a family.
02:23:55.080
We see that divorce is 80% of the time initiated by women.
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We see that that number jumps to 90% if she's college educated.
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Look at men getting destroyed in the family court system, and men en masse are just opting out because it's not a good bet anymore.
02:24:25.200
Well, I was going to say men are going to be rational thinkers, but a lot of men get suckered into marriage and all this shit.
02:24:30.960
But, um, men are no longer, a better way to put this is men are no longer incentivized to get married, to have, well, they're no longer incentivized to get married.
02:24:45.100
Because when you introduce no fault divorce, when the words till death do us part means nothing, this kind of goes back to women flaking almost.
02:24:57.760
If women just will willy-nilly can't stick to their word, if, if you agree to do something, you ought to follow through.
02:25:07.080
Um, look, sometimes legitimate excuses come up, although I think that's rare.
02:25:12.560
I think it's generally speaking, something better came up, a better option came around, or you're just feeling a little bit under the weather, whatever.
02:25:19.580
But if you can't even commit to showing up on a date, how in the hell are you going to commit to till death do us part?
02:25:29.700
And men are starting to wake up to this and we're saying, hey, we don't, we don't get the sense.
02:25:38.080
She's laughing, but I mean, look at the divorce rate, right?
02:25:44.260
If, look at the vows for wedding, for wedding, look at the vows that you say during marriage, till death do us part.
02:25:56.420
If words no longer mean anything, if your commitments can be so easily broken, then why get married?
02:26:10.700
I know a lot of women are thinking the same thing, or a lot of women don't want children.
02:26:15.680
A lot of women don't want to have babies or get married and all that.
02:26:19.160
So I think it's just not just men, but I think everyone's kind of realizing like, oh, this is nothing.
02:26:26.360
Well, I mean, I'm, I'm a pragmatist, but idealistically society functions best when children are raised in a two parent household and there aren't divorces and partners stay together.
02:26:41.100
And, but we have, I mean, the majority, I don't know if it's a majority now, but most people, I don't know.
02:26:50.120
I don't know if it's a majority yet, but a substantial portion of people are being raised in single parent households, typically single mother households.
02:26:57.920
And that can work, but you put yourself at a statistical disadvantage.
02:27:04.800
You put your children at a statistical disadvantage.
02:27:08.040
It's much better to have a two parent household.
02:27:12.880
I mean, so one of the reasons my ex left me is because I'm not crazy about the idea of having children.
02:27:19.580
And it's because I was raised by a single mother and I saw her struggle and saw that.
02:27:27.560
And so with, like I said, in this day and age, everyone's so disposable.
02:27:40.340
Just, do you guys want to have kids and get married at some point?
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I don't want to rush into anything, so I'm freezing the eggs.
02:28:09.900
And then so I can choose the right person to be the parent.
02:28:17.300
And I guess this is something that is unfortunate for women, but there is a time limit.
02:28:33.300
No, see, but if you freeze your eggs, you don't have to rush.
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Like, it's a lot of money that you have to put into it, but I would rather raise my child
02:28:43.720
with someone that is normal than to rush and then end up with, you know, with someone that's
02:28:53.760
Because children is probably the most important thing that you do.
02:29:03.460
Children is literally the most important thing.
02:29:06.640
But when it comes to freezing your eggs, I mean, I don't have the stats in my head to just
02:29:12.800
throw out there, but isn't there like a fairly non-negligible chance that it doesn't, I don't
02:29:29.140
Yeah, like it doesn't, like a failure rate for, what's the term for it?
02:29:37.600
Yeah, there's, so when you turn, so apparently, I haven't done much of research, but when you
02:29:43.440
turn 35, the chance, so before 35, the chances are around 75% of, you know, working out.
02:30:03.320
I know at 35, you get into high-risk pregnancy territory, and then as you get into your, get
02:30:13.540
But I'm talking about for the in vitro fertilization, I think it's called.
02:30:18.200
Even if you get your eggs frozen, there's a decent chance, a percentage chance that there's
02:30:28.600
So even if you do get your eggs frozen, it's not like a guarantee that you will still be
02:30:45.100
I don't know how we got to the whole wanting to have kids.
02:30:53.240
I don't think I want to have kids either, to be honest.
02:30:55.700
I mean, it's such a hard thing to explain because I've never wanted to have a kid just
02:31:01.560
You know, like there's a lot of girls that are like, oh, I want like a little mini me
02:31:06.220
But if I were to meet someone and said, oh my gosh, I love you.
02:31:14.680
Let's put those together and make something together.
02:31:22.220
And for marriage as well, I don't need to get married.
02:31:24.900
So if I die and never have a baby, it just wasn't meant to be.
02:31:32.460
Yo, Cameron, Carlton, why do you do this show, B?
02:31:39.560
It may be modeled somewhat off of others, but you do seem to be selling yourself.
02:31:47.040
I just discovered this podcast, so I'm wondering what your main motive is.
02:31:52.040
Oh, your first question kind of threw me off there.
02:31:55.640
I thought you were like, it was coming from a critical point of view.
02:31:59.600
No, I'm never going to sell a course or anything.
02:32:08.860
Just having conversations, hearing from people, hearing from girls,
02:32:12.800
seeing their views on dating and relationships.
02:32:20.060
And I thought I wanted to transition away from the prank videos I was doing
02:32:29.320
I mean, there's a whole bunch of reasons why I transitioned,
02:32:34.120
But yeah, I won't be selling any, like, here's a, nothing wrong if someone wanted to do that.
02:32:43.120
But for me, I'm not, I'm not intending to sell you guys anything.
02:33:05.540
I wonder how many of them list intelligence as one of their top personality traits
02:33:19.160
So, a man who the ladies deem worthy has to look forward to their high body count,
02:33:24.140
impaired pair bonding, paying for their choice of like freezing,
02:33:44.580
Oh, so Carmela, did you want to shoot shots back at Monty?
02:33:57.620
He didn't have a photo, so I can't talk to a face.
02:34:01.420
You know, I think in defense of Carmela, I bet she could wax poetic about.
02:34:16.120
She could talk forever about psychology, I'm sure.
02:34:32.740
Zentience, are you part of the dragonkin family?
02:34:52.060
Because there's like different territories and shit.
02:35:18.000
There will be years where you will hate your wife.
02:35:19.920
You have to choose to carry on and not give up on this foundation.
02:35:43.500
Can the ladies give two deal breakers for them in a man?
02:36:04.800
Um, he has to have a job and he has to be nice.
02:36:13.100
Like, I mean, he's got to be like, like a, his, he's got to have emotional intelligence.
02:37:25.420
I don't, it doesn't like, I mean, I would prefer them to be nice and, you know, be able
02:37:31.600
Your last boyfriend, how long did you date him?
02:37:35.920
And then there was a five year before that, correct?
02:38:02.920
Were they, if you had to describe how they were, how would you describe them?
02:38:13.660
Um, yes, they were, they were both ex-frat boys.
02:38:24.980
I mean, I was, I went to Cal State Northridge, so I was, um, I was in AOPI.
02:38:50.560
They were actually, they were actually assholes to me.
02:38:54.660
But that's why now I have changed my standards.
02:39:01.120
Which is why I've been single for five years, because every guy in LA is an asshole.
02:39:07.960
Wait, so your last, the two-year guy was five years ago?
02:39:11.840
I think I ended things with him in like 2018 or something.
02:39:22.960
And when you say single, you mean you were hooking up with a new guy every week?
02:39:33.180
Carmela, when's the last time you, when's the last time you hooked up with a guy?
02:39:36.740
But when's the last time you hooked up with a guy?
02:39:48.780
Yeah, but that doesn't mean you're like, it's, it's like,
02:39:55.380
It's like, just because you've been on a few dates with people doesn't mean like you guys
02:40:03.000
Well, I mean, there were times where I thought I, like, it could lead somewhere or like, you
02:40:10.260
know, I stopped liking someone or they stopped liking me, but like nothing, nothing ever
02:40:30.380
No, my jaw is getting very clenched, so I just need to relax.
02:40:39.580
She has stuff to work through and she's single.
02:40:45.520
She's meeting someone that doesn't work out and doesn't have to work out with everybody.
02:40:50.080
And the fucking asteroid keeps fucking sending.
02:40:55.000
So were you not dating anyone during COVID though?
02:41:10.480
Or wait, you can answer that one first if you want.
02:41:20.400
What's the longest period of time you've been celibate during that five-year period?
02:41:32.920
Why are you trying to judge the woman, leave her alone?
02:41:37.640
How long have I, the longest period of celibacy I've had?
02:41:48.320
Um, I was dating a girl for about seven months, but I don't know if that constitutes like
02:41:56.900
a long-term thing, but I think it's something, how long?
02:42:03.040
And then before that, when was your last relationship?
02:42:09.600
And then before that was a two-year relationship.
02:42:21.680
Uh, the first two, well, let's not talk about that.
02:42:37.920
Women typically are the ones who end relationships, I would say.
02:42:41.480
I think women end relationships way more frequently than men do.
02:42:45.820
But one of them, it was, I ended and then the two of them, they broke up with me.
02:43:10.160
She will walk all over the nice guys because she makes more money.
02:43:14.120
She still runs back to her sneaky links called...
02:43:55.660
Well, Zentience has you pegged as a high earner, so...
02:45:19.040
Someone who doesn't have a growth mentality and someone who doesn't have a sense of humor.
02:45:24.400
I mean, if he has a solution for it, maybe if that's fine.
02:45:46.920
If they don't understand themselves, they can't deal with it.
02:46:10.700
Do you guys think it's unfair that there's, you know, there's a double standard, right?
02:46:16.560
How when it comes to past partners, there's a double standard and it goes something like, it's related to body count.
02:46:28.540
So, a woman gets judged if she's had a lot of past sexual partners, whereas a man, if he's had a lot of past sexual partners, he's like, that's impressive, he's a stud, whereas she's viewed as a slut.
02:46:41.780
What do you guys think about that double standard?
02:46:46.580
But do you think, for example, let me add to that a little bit.
02:46:50.240
Do you think it's unfair for a guy who has a high body count, let's say he's had a lot of partners, but he wants a partner who has a low body count or who has not been as promiscuous as him?
02:47:05.360
Do you think that that is unreasonable thing to want?
02:47:11.900
I was about to say, it's a bit unfair, but, I mean, to each their own.
02:47:17.800
So, you know, if he likes to get around and he doesn't want his girlfriend to, then that's on him.
02:47:34.420
Well, I think the only reason why you are worried about the past of whoever you are with, it's because you are insecure about yourself.
02:47:44.080
And I don't think you should judge anyone based on what they've done in the past.
02:47:54.840
You should not judge someone based on what they've done in the past.
02:48:01.780
So, you meet a guy and you find out that every single girlfriend he's had, he's cheated on her.
02:48:14.200
We're talking about number of people that they slept with.
02:48:17.920
I think that's a perfectly apt comparison, but you don't think that's a fair...
02:48:24.500
So, his past behavior has precluded him as a partner for you.
02:48:31.380
So, then it's okay, do you want to revise your stance?
02:48:37.420
No, because we're talking about a free person that has no boyfriend sleeping around.
02:48:44.180
By the way, I've never done that, but I don't judge the person who does it.
02:48:53.420
So, a man, if a man expects the woman, it's not good.
02:49:03.680
Just listening to her gives me an overwhelming sensation to get an antibiotic.
02:49:12.380
You even said you were still about eight months and five years.
02:49:15.760
That's the same as finding yourself after a train.
02:49:22.040
I mean, Carmela, do you want a response to Sentience?
02:49:50.140
He's probably just alone at home and has nothing better to do than, you know, make fun of me
02:49:58.860
or, you know, get mad at the way I live my life.
02:50:04.480
Sentience is a brain surgeon at Cedars-Sinai Hospital.
02:51:38.640
Which usually, like, in the meta, like, smokes China-Infantry.
02:51:49.840
He'll, like, throw a bunch of the rocket launcher dudes into the technical.
02:51:55.500
He'll fucking airdrop the Humvees with all the rocket guys.
02:52:03.220
Or maybe I couldn't care less about him being a brain surgeon.
02:52:06.640
But if he's gonna treat people this way and talk to people, like, you know, oh, you're
02:52:51.560
If a guy had previously slept with a man, would that be, like, a deal breaker for you, Carmela?
02:53:00.700
I'm also going to say no to this one, because I'm...
02:53:07.800
I had heard rumors that an ex of mine in the past had hooked up with a guy or guys.
02:53:17.320
I mean, I didn't know if they were rumors or not, but I still dated him for two years,
02:53:39.740
Let's get these soup chats, and then we can come back to the conversation.
02:53:47.660
Men are fleeing the West to seek women with traditional values who are raised to be good wives.
02:53:55.260
Does that upset you, and why do you think so many Western men are exiting the local dating
02:54:08.140
It doesn't upset me, and they can leave if they want to, because traffic will get better.
02:54:40.440
Some of the best advice I heard was, if someone wants to leave, let them leave.
02:54:56.100
I think, in a new way of the world, I think we both, men and women, have a, we must learn
02:55:17.060
At the end of the day, we've got our roles, I believe, and we've got to play them.
02:55:22.120
They're changing, but I still think we're going to learn.
02:55:27.120
So, the question is, that men are leaving specifically the West?
02:55:34.440
I mean, dating, especially in, like, LA, California, is rough.
02:55:40.620
He probably wants someone more traditional, and we don't really have traditional here.
02:55:48.240
I mean, honestly, I think women don't really give a fuck.
02:55:50.380
Like, the whole, I don't think men are wrong for being passport bros.
02:56:05.680
The top 10, top 20% of guys are always going to be here.
02:56:14.420
I'm not with all this feminist shit, but there are two aspects that I'm all for.
02:56:18.220
No, not procreating the problem, taking care of itself, and free the nipple.
02:56:32.660
About, like, what, because you often hear a feminist say, and would you guys consider
02:56:50.620
I mean, I guess yes, but not, like, a crazy one.
02:56:56.900
Like, not, you know, to the extent of what they consider feminists.
02:57:00.480
They're an extremists that I think give it a bad name.
02:57:07.340
So, do you think that women don't have equal rights to men in this country?
02:57:16.500
Because that's kind of, like, the main thing of feminism, right?
02:57:22.080
But don't women have, well, I shouldn't even ask the question.
02:57:26.820
I already know women do already have fully equal rights to men.
02:57:31.380
And in actually some cases, advantages and privileges that men don't have.
02:57:36.860
But, and the only thing that, like, legally, in terms of a law that I thought, here's one
02:57:47.480
way in which men have a law that benefits them, it's we can show our bare chest.
02:57:53.640
But I think in some municipalities, women can go shirtless.
02:57:59.260
I think that's the only one that I can think of.
02:58:02.140
The only right or law that men have that women don't.
02:58:24.300
And, like, a lot of people will consider the benefits that jobs have, like, before they
02:58:33.160
So, like, now they offer maternity, like, a bunch of weeks for maternity and paternity
02:58:41.980
Under the law, I don't, I don't think there's any problems.
02:58:45.080
But socially, it's definitely, I mean, there's definitely the inequality there.
02:58:51.300
I'm not sure how deep I want to go into that one.
02:59:01.740
Growing up in an Asian household, I definitely had different rules from my brother.
02:59:07.920
And so, like, the way I was raised was much different.
02:59:12.100
And then also the people around you expect women to be a certain way when men don't have
02:59:18.200
So, I mean, it just depends on how you look at it.
02:59:26.980
Does anybody remember when women were allowed to vote in this country?
02:59:50.140
So, when I think when we talk about feminism, it's more, right now, yes, we've got all the
02:59:55.860
But back in the day, we didn't have any of the rights.
02:59:58.140
And it was important that we had those people to fight for it.
03:00:02.440
So, the feminism became like something kind of negative in a few conversations.
03:00:11.360
But they were quite important to get us where we are now.
03:00:16.640
I've got to get through the soup chats, so we won't stick on that conversation for too
03:00:21.540
Mike Davis, thank you for re-upping your membership.
03:00:24.940
Or actually, I don't know if it was re-upped, but it's one of these membership.
03:00:32.680
Mike Davis, by the way, I don't know if you heard me earlier, but you were a big supporter
03:00:38.580
If it wasn't for you and Davon Jackson, you guys definitely helped keep me motivated
03:00:43.480
because, as you know, Mike Davis, like, not a lot of people were supporting those first
03:00:51.300
And you've always had some fun, fun things to say.
03:01:26.940
Would you take issue if a guy, he wanted a girl with a low body count?
03:01:34.300
I mean, maybe, maybe that's not the right girl for him.
03:01:45.020
If someone, I don't know, because then it starts to feel like controlling of like, you know,
03:01:48.560
I don't want you to have like, just meet people where they're at.
03:01:52.240
If you love this person, you don't care about how many people they've slept with.
03:01:55.280
Well, for example, let's say a guy found out that you had had 20 sexual partners and he's like, hey, that's too much for me.
03:02:06.000
But you wouldn't have an issue with a guy, that being a standard for a guy?
03:02:13.940
I just, I think that's gross for him to put that on me of like, you need to be like this to fit into what I want.
03:02:21.520
So, you think it's gross if a guy has a preference for a woman with a low body count?
03:02:36.720
And if you don't want to date someone, like, I don't know, like, do your own thing.
03:02:43.760
But I just, like, I don't need, I don't need anyone else telling me how to be than myself.
03:02:50.360
Well, I mean, he can't tell you really to do anything because you've already accrued, said, past sexual partners.
03:02:57.060
But you'd find it gross if a guy was like, oh, I don't want to date a woman who's promiscuous or had a promiscuous past or who has a high body count.
03:03:06.860
Would you find it gross if a woman didn't want to date a guy who was a player and had a high body count?
03:03:12.380
It's weird because, like, that I kind of understand.
03:03:18.520
I think it's because for so many years there's been put of this really, like, negative energy about women being comfortable with their sexual energy and, like, having a lot of sexual partners.
03:03:32.160
I'm pissed about how there's been a lot of negative energy about women expressing their sexual energy with having a lot of partners.
03:03:39.680
And that, I think, is clouding my viewpoint of a man wanting someone with a low, a man wanting a woman with a low body count.
03:03:50.020
I'm just pissed about, like, for so many years women have been getting crapped on for wanting, for having many partners when it's not that way with guys.
03:04:02.160
So, well, so you're saying that it's, what was the term you used?
03:04:12.940
When a woman gets in touch with her sexual energy by, like.
03:04:16.040
Gets in touch with her sexual energy by fucking every.
03:04:23.400
Couldn't the woman get in touch with her sexual energy by having sex with one partner that they love?
03:04:30.700
Yeah, because with any woman, like, I, it was a very, like, broad getting in touch with her sexual energy because I feel like that should be applauded.
03:04:37.660
When a woman chooses to do whatever she wants with herself, that's great.
03:04:42.220
Whether it's, like, with herself, with a man or a woman, with a many men.
03:04:45.300
Like, that's what my broad thing was about, like, a woman getting in touch with her sexual energy because it is so stomped on with a lot of people.
03:05:08.100
I, and, like, and that's why I say of, like, maybe this is just coming from me of, like, so many years.
03:05:13.840
And even maybe my personal experience, too, is, like, seeping out.
03:05:16.860
So, I'm, like, I'm projecting mine of when I, the way I was raised was you don't have sex.
03:05:23.080
I wasn't taught about, like, how to deal with my fucking body.
03:05:33.120
Um, so when I say applauding it, like, I just, I don't know if, I'm, I'm saying you should go out and sleep with everyone, but, but you should do whatever you want to do.
03:05:43.200
I'm applauding women to do whatever they want to do.
03:05:46.080
I'm applauding them to get in touch with their sexual, sexual energy and see wherever that leads them.
03:05:52.020
Don't you think that there's something more noble than doing what you want to do?
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For example, doing what you ought to do or doing what is the right thing to do?
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The right thing to do is a, is a personal preference to everyone.
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And what you ought to do, what you sort, like, like, you should do this.
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If someone want, if one of your, if Carmela, for example, who's your friend for almost five years now,
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if she wanted to tattoo the whites of her eyeballs, would you, she wants to do it.
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Or would you try to counsel her to say, Hey, maybe this tattooing the whites of your eyeballs, people are going to judge you for it.
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Would you try to advise her away from doing that?
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Or would you say, you know what, girl, you do it.
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I think with anything that's going to be permanent on your body, of course, we're going to talk about it.
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And I would say, you know, think about it for a while.
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But at the end of the day, she wants to do that.
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But I would, if one of my male friends approached me and said, Brian, I'm thinking of having the whites of my eyes tattooed.
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It's going to be harder for you to find a future partner if you have the whites of your eyes tattooed black, for example.
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So, similarly, if someone has, if someone is promiscuous, if they have a high body count, there are certain health ramifications.
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It might be harder to find a partner if you have a high body count, if you are promiscuous.
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Well, my, my position is that promiscuity is not desired, is not desirable.
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And if I'm living my life just to be desirable, am I really living it for my own happiness?
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I'm not, I'm not saying for you to go and, and like sleep with everyone.
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And I know there are, especially now, there are like health risks and that's, and I respect that.
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But all I'm saying is I just like, there are so many people that get shut down with like following what makes them happy.
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And again, this could be me, me projecting because for so much of my life, like, like I'm trying, I'm trying to see, like, I know there's a lot of point of views and maybe I'm coming from one that's clouded.
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But are women really happy getting ran through, though?
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That's not what, I mean, like, like if you're choosing the sexual part, if you are like enjoying and choosing these interactions and like, and each of them is like helping you grow and like understanding more about yourself and your, like, like, that's cool.
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Does having sex with a total stranger and never talking to them help someone grow?
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Well, I don't think I'm using that as an example.
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I don't think I'm saying that in each one of these, they're going to be a complete stranger and you're not talking to them again.
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But we are, okay, in order for someone to have a high body count, in order for someone to be promiscuous, there's some degree of casual sex occurring.
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Yeah, maybe, but who knows, like, don't put a blanket statement on, like, if someone's promiscuous and they have a high body count, each and every single one of those interactions with a lifeless and a stranger.
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What would you do if you really liked someone, a girl?
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I'm not really interested because I just don't think you're worth it.
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If a woman looks at a guy and she's like, this guy used to be a player or he is a player.
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And she decides for herself, I don't want to be, I don't want to partner with that guy.
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Um, now do I think it happens to be the case that women tend to care less about a man's
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past promiscuity or yeah, some women do care about it, but overwhelmingly, I think women
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And I think that's where we get into the sort of, uh, debate over body count is women generally
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Cause most, you ask most women, like, well, we can ask you guys, um, would you guys date
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Think about who, think about what kind of man would be a virgin.
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So you're 25, you're 32, you're 23 and you're 29.
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If I remember correctly, think of a guy your age, who's still a virgin.
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Now he could be a religious guy, but you're gonna, you're gonna sleep with a guy who's
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Okay, let me, let me put, put, do you think the sex would be good with a guy who's a virgin?
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We just wouldn't do the actual, sorry, the actual thing.
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If you want to, we're going to wrap up here in about, I don't know, 10 minutes, 15 minutes.
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Sentience, uh, Dean worthy has to look forward to their high about impaired.
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Well, with the body count thing, definitely like pair bonding gets fucked.
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Um, the higher likelihood of divorce, the higher your body count is higher likelihood of STDs,
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um, more likelihood of infidelity, uh, greater likelihood.
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The higher likelihood of reporting relationship dissatisfaction.
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There's also a evolution, evo psych evolutionary psychology component where men have a, uh,
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paternity uncertainty where it's an evolutionary biological response.
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If we know woman's promiscuous, we cannot guarantee that the children is going to be ours.
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Now we have D, uh, we've developed DNA tests in the past 40 years, which we can determine
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who the father is, but that doesn't undo hundreds of thousands of years of evolution.
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And in France, where I was my father lands, mother lands, whatever father, it would be my
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You can't even get paternity testing there because apparently there's rampant paternity fraud
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So, uh, cause apparently it would cause, it would cause too much societal upheaval if,
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uh, men found out that they weren't, that they got cheated on and cucked.
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Leaving that three red flags and my sense of humor is offensive.
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Most chicks, including the ones on the panel, go for men with success, height, looks, et cetera,
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Most of us men are invisible to most women word word response.
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But I mean, they've looked at the, uh, frequency of how often women swipe on men on dating apps.
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And it's something like swipe no on like 90% of men.
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So it would stand to reason that women are all chasing after the top 10, top 20% of men and the rest are invisible.
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Um, if you look at his avatar, oh, geez, I'm sorry, Ray.
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Your looks equivalent, if she was so inclined, could sleep with like a couple new guys a week.
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Um, but yeah, like we, we've had girls come on the show who like, who admit their body count.
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And their looks equivalent as a guy cannot put up those numbers.
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Yo, Elder Scrolls, thank you for becoming a member, man.
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I think this is the, Oni Nofro is the Quebecois.
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First land owners paying taxes, then men dying in war, women.
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Literally just given with no civic duty at all.
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Also, suffragettes only wanted it for the right sort of women.
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And yeah, I mean, the feminist movement is kind of the genesis of the feminist movement
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is pretty racist, but, um, they obviously didn't want, uh, certain rights for, uh, black
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folk, but, uh, that's a whole nother Seneca Falls night.
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In the eight, 18, 18, 18 hundreds Seneca Falls or something.
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Maybe it slipped through, or maybe it came in as a 10, but, uh, rerunning it.
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I made two guarantees about the blonde who dated the predator 10 years, her senior.
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Honestly, where's neck beard would have loved to crack him.
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Um, and I, I grew up, we actually were rich until I was like 10 and then we moved out to
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So we lived a lower, not low income, but just like, um, a more frugal kind of life, I guess
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What Mike Davis, what's what I think he's memeing about the predator thing, but, uh, you, so
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you dated a guy who's 10 years or senior, but yeah, and I get it.
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It was a huge age gap and it was really controversial.
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I don't, I don't think there was anything wrong with that.
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Uh, yo Monty 20, I mean, unless you were 18 when you met, correct?
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So at an earlier point during the show, I asked if there's anything dating related that you
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You two have not yet had the opportunity to answer.
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Something dating related you want to get off your chest of frustration, anything?
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Um, I have repressed a lot of memories, but I remember one time someone showed up blacked
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out drunk to a date I was on and then I wanted to leave and he like didn't want to leave.
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Uh, I mean, I don't, I haven't dated a lot, but the only one that was really bad was just,
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Like, I went to a movie and I didn't really know this guy very well and he kept kind of
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like just trying to cuddle with me the whole time and I, I hated it.
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And I just, I really hate when people boom my boundaries, you know?
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The worst date was, um, this guy first five minutes, he would have his hand on my lap and
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Like, I need to do this first and then you can touch me.
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So it was a bit weird, but it wasn't like horrible.
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I just sort of told him like that it was not okay.
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And then I told him that I wouldn't see him again straight away.
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Do you guys have like a certain time when you're more comfortable or is it just, you
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Like, when is that kind of behavior acceptable?
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Depends on how, um, how long I was talking to the guy before that as well.
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So wait, your worst date, when was your worst date?
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My worst date was, it was actually the second date and, uh, we had had a picture taken
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And on the second date, he was comparing our picture and telling me what our children would
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The last two guys I went on dates with were 6'7".
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Like they took, like we went out to like eat and like get like, you know.
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One of them had a brother that was 6'9", but married.
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So, why wasn't there a second, was there a second date?
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Um, I had three dates with one of them, but then he, he was on vacation from Sarasota.
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Like I met him on Hinge while he was here for a few weeks.
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If I find out that a girl is just in town for the weekend or some shit, it's just, for me anyways, what's the point?
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I'm very open to moving, like, anywhere out of L.A.
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Like, I'm very open to like, just moving out of L.A.
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And like, I feel like, it's nice to have friends in like, like other places.
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Is that how you rationalize hooking up with men that there's no chance of commit, getting commitment from?
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But do you think after three dates, he's going to be like, okay, come move to fucking Sarasota?
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No, I wasn't going to, I wouldn't move to Sarasota.
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You said you're, but so, okay, you're, you're willing to go and hook up with a guy who.
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I may have hooked up with him on the third date.
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But what I mean, I feel like I'm not opposed to meeting people who are not from here, is what I mean.
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She's wanting to find love and, and she's willing to take the risks for it.
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And you're just not going to find anyone in L.A. that, like, is, that, like, even wants to take you out to a nice restaurant and pay for you and, like, drive all the way to L.A. from Newport for you.
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I, I felt like it was a nice gesture when we started talking.
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And I did not know he was from Sarasota when I first met him, or when I first started talking to him.
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Bruv, you're dating too many, you've, in recent history, was it the past couple months?
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You're dating 6'7 guys who are gonna buy you dinner and, has Sarasota guy offered to fly
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He hasn't offered to fly me out, but he said I should come visit sometime.
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Because you said you were into Asian girls who are 4'11".
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And then you said, well, Brian, you're too short for me at 6'1", because it just so happens
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that I recent, Theo Anderson thing for the membership man, you can pull that up, Carson.
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Um, it just so happens that I dated two guys who were 6'7".
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Well, you, not that I, not that, like, I would only go for 6'7 guys.
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Um, wait, okay, really quick, let's go to the, um, let me get the soup chat.
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Since Andrew Tate is not here, I would like to speak on his behalf.
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So, I was hanging out with this girl, and this was years ago.
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And, uh, I invite her back to my place, and she comes back to my place, and she starts playfully hitting me.
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Now, I'm a person that likes his, uh, like, I'm, like, uh, yeah, like, I don't like people just randomly touching me.
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Like, if it's a more intimate, like, a cuddle situation, that's, like, I like to cuddle, whatever.
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Um, I'm not, like, distant in that way, but if, like, a guy or girl, I don't like people, like, playfully, like, fucking pushing me around and shit.
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Uh, so this girl, like, I don't know if she shoved me or something, but, like, she did it a bit too hard to the point where it's, like, got me a little on edge.
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And I'm, like, I told her, I was, like, hey, just, we're having a good time here.
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And she started getting, like, try to be playful about it, but I was dead serious.
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And I had this, uh, lacrosse ball or something, and just for some reason.
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And, like, uh, lacrosse balls are, uh, they're not soft, right?
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And she's, like, she's, like, I'm gonna throw it.
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And she's, like, pretending like she's gonna throw it at me.
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And then, but then she's, like, oh, I want to bounce it in your apartment with all this, like, shit.
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And she's, like, what are you gonna do if I do?
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And then I was, like, you need to fucking leave.
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So, cause she just, she's already not listened to me about my not wanting to be touched.
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And I was, at that point, like, I was pretty stern with how I said it.
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Have you ever, like, met a girl who's just, like, got this crackhead energy?
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Because, like, I'm, like, if someone doesn't listen to me when I say stop touching me, like.
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And then I matched with her on a dating app, like, a couple.
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And I was, like, remember when you fucking assaulted me?
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And she was, like, oh, I was just being playful.
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I don't know if that's the worst date I've ever been on.
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Like, I think she did a playful slap in the face.
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I don't like people touching my face like that.
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If body count shouldn't matter, what's your body count?
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So you're bisexual but just for kissing and stuff or?
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Let me just comment something in the chat here.
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If a girl was telling this story about a guy putting hands on her and she told him not to
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touch her and she continued doing it, I guarantee you Lux Icy or whatever the fuck you pronounce
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her name, you would have a very different tone.
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Listen, people have physical boundaries and it's rare that I encounter that with a woman
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Because the first time she did it, I was like, hey, can you not do that?
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And then she did it again and then I got serious.
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At that point, she should have known not to but she kept...
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It doesn't matter which is why I'm not saying it.
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It makes sense because then I feel like I'm not...
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I wouldn't ask a man how many people he's been with.
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So, I mean, I feel like you just don't have to say it.
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I mean, you can't say to people that you trust that you want to share with.
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I just don't need to tell it to these people who are already being mean to me.
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Well, I think body count matters, so I don't share that.
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I've had like four to five long-term girlfriends.
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Well, I can neither confirm or deny any of your guesses.
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You could have been doing anything else, but you were here with me.
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