Whatever Podcast - Dating Talk #49

00:00:00.000 La donna è mobile, qual piuma al vento, muta d'accento e vita in sieno.

00:00:24.340 Sempre un'amabile, legge addroviso, impianto inriso e menzognero.

00:00:35.200 La donna è mobile, qual piuma al vento, muta d'accento e vita in sieno.

00:00:49.340 La donna è mobile, qual piuma al vento, muta d'accento e vita in sieno.

00:01:19.320 At 7 p.m. Pacific, I'm your host, Brian Atlas.

00:01:23.860 I'm joined by my co-host, Kiki.

00:01:26.860 She's a bit shy.

00:01:27.620 She's somewhere.

00:01:28.260 I don't know.

00:01:29.120 A few quick announcements before the show begins.

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00:03:15.740 Really quick, big shout-outs to Chaz who has been helping out behind the scenes.

00:03:19.620 I want to see WChaz in the chat.

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00:03:28.020 And then, of course, Michael Matroke IV.

00:03:29.780 I don't know if he's still in the chat.

00:03:31.100 But anyways, without further ado, guys, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.

00:03:36.480 So, please tell us your name, age, occupation.

00:03:39.900 Hi.

00:03:40.420 Hello.

00:03:41.180 Where am I looking?

00:03:42.620 Oh, it doesn't matter.

00:03:43.600 You pick.

00:03:44.060 All right.

00:03:44.420 Great.

00:03:45.620 My name is Valence.

00:03:46.940 I am 47 years old.

00:03:49.100 And I am a seamstress for a living.

00:03:51.100 But I supplement my income with good old OnlyFans.

00:03:55.100 How?

00:03:55.520 Sorry.

00:03:55.780 47?

00:03:56.640 Yeah.

00:03:58.220 What?

00:03:59.620 Is that funny?

00:04:01.880 Oh, boy.

00:04:02.520 She's got nails in there.

00:04:05.020 Oh, boy.

00:04:06.060 Uh-huh.

00:04:08.440 Yeah.

00:04:09.040 Chat, do I?

00:04:11.980 Is there a sound for this?

00:04:14.680 Stop the cap.

00:04:17.400 You're right.

00:04:18.160 I'm 12 years old.

00:04:19.340 Oh.

00:04:19.500 I'm a virgin.

00:04:21.740 I'm in the seventh grade.

00:04:23.240 I'm not sure how they got me on the show.

00:04:25.080 That's a yikes.

00:04:25.940 I know.

00:04:26.980 You should vet your client.

00:04:29.160 I'm sorry.

00:04:29.900 I won't roast you.

00:04:31.200 Thank you for having me.

00:04:32.520 So, you're 47?

00:04:33.700 Yeah.

00:04:36.060 47.

00:04:37.380 Yeah.

00:04:39.800 Bro, you look like 35.

00:04:42.040 A little closer.

00:04:43.020 A little closer.

00:04:43.160 Thank you.

00:04:43.500 You look like 35 years old.

00:04:44.700 Thank you.

00:04:45.240 I appreciate that.

00:04:46.500 Yeah.

00:04:46.900 Yeah.

00:04:46.960 That's very kind.

00:04:48.620 She's been my best friend for a few years.

00:04:50.800 I can.

00:04:51.620 She's not cap.

00:04:52.400 Mia can verify.

00:04:53.720 100%.

00:04:54.160 Do you have your driver's license on you?

00:04:55.480 I actually don't.

00:04:56.400 I'm not joking.

00:04:57.540 I actually don't have it on me.

00:04:58.600 She was driving and we stopped for Red Bulls.

00:05:00.720 And she's like, I forgot my wallet.

00:05:02.020 I did.

00:05:02.400 She literally doesn't.

00:05:03.320 100%.

00:05:03.720 What?

00:05:03.940 Not the cap.

00:05:04.980 I'm not.

00:05:05.500 I'm so for real.

00:05:06.720 100%.

00:05:06.860 I'm sorry.

00:05:11.280 Did I stop the pod?

00:05:13.540 Are we going to continue?

00:05:15.840 Here.

00:05:16.120 Can you just show this camera?

00:05:19.640 My tattoo?

00:05:20.320 No, your forearm.

00:05:21.600 I mean, tattoo.

00:05:22.320 Because she puts on sunscreen and has good skin care.

00:05:25.460 Lotion.

00:05:26.140 Do you not moisturize?

00:05:26.760 Way to go.

00:05:27.680 Every single day.

00:05:29.200 Yeah.

00:05:29.520 Absolutely.

00:05:30.120 Honestly, I don't believe it.

00:05:31.660 Every single day.

00:05:32.220 I really don't believe.

00:05:33.200 That's really kind of you.

00:05:34.340 I don't think you're supposed to actually ask a woman's age last I checked.

00:05:37.740 I think that's like.

00:05:40.200 Yet here we are.

00:05:41.460 Yet here we are.

00:05:43.340 That would have not been my first guess, but you look incredible.

00:05:46.220 Yeah, good for you, girl.

00:05:46.840 No, never.

00:05:47.200 Get out.

00:05:48.180 Thank you, guys.

00:05:48.580 You're not 47.

00:05:50.280 Anime girls don't age.

00:05:52.440 Anime girls don't age.

00:05:54.260 You know what?

00:05:55.000 That's the key to life is to enjoy anime and have belief in God.

00:05:59.120 I think you're in your mid-30s.

00:06:00.880 Yeah.

00:06:01.720 Maybe early 30s, maybe late 20s.

00:06:03.940 You're not 47.

00:06:05.500 Okay.

00:06:06.080 But if you want to cap and because you're older male clientele.

00:06:14.800 Okay, so, all right, so fine, whatever.

00:06:19.660 I don't believe it, but that's fine.

00:06:21.760 Okay.

00:06:21.900 So, okay, you're, and you do what for work again?

00:06:25.040 I'm actually a professional seamstress.

00:06:27.080 I make educational sewing content, but I do supplement my income with OnlyFans.

00:06:31.240 I made the costume I'm wearing today.

00:06:33.100 And you cosplay?

00:06:34.040 Cosplay?

00:06:34.660 I do cosplay.

00:06:35.520 Is it cosplay?

00:06:36.020 Cosplay.

00:06:36.680 No, yeah, it's cosplay.

00:06:37.820 Yeah.

00:06:38.400 Costume play.

00:06:39.240 What costume is this?

00:06:40.260 This is actually a meme, one that I'm very happy about.

00:06:45.480 The character is Guillermo Toniero from Ace Attorney, but she's known as Klossy.

00:06:51.980 Just going back to this really quick, you're 47.

00:06:54.920 Do you have kids at all or?

00:06:56.200 No.

00:06:56.800 No kids?

00:06:57.200 Single by choice.

00:06:57.880 Well, single-ish by choice.

00:07:00.960 Okay.

00:07:01.360 And no kids.

00:07:02.460 Yeah.

00:07:02.880 What year were you born?

00:07:06.780 Damn.

00:07:07.820 All right, you got me.

00:07:08.620 There it is.

00:07:08.960 I'm actually 64.

00:07:13.140 Oh, my God.

00:07:14.540 What year was Nixon president?

00:07:18.420 Actually, that's a great question.

00:07:20.540 You could ask me what year Bush was president, and I still don't remember, to be completely

00:07:24.040 honest.

00:07:24.440 You think that the American education system does a good job of teaching us these things?

00:07:29.300 Truly.

00:07:29.660 You would be incredibly incorrect.

00:07:32.080 So we just ask the question.

00:07:33.140 It's not a good cow.

00:07:34.480 I don't even know when the Great Depression was.

00:07:36.700 I'm going to be honest.

00:07:37.600 It was in the 30s.

00:07:39.340 Thank you.

00:07:39.780 Yeah.

00:07:39.980 I appreciate that.

00:07:40.580 It was after the great 20s.

00:07:42.680 And that was where it was.

00:07:44.060 That makes sense.

00:07:44.940 Yeah.

00:07:45.280 Fuck.

00:07:53.920 Send the asteroid.

00:07:55.140 Okay.

00:07:55.500 We'll move on.

00:07:56.440 Go ahead.

00:07:56.680 Hi, my name is Devin.

00:07:58.760 I'm 28, and I am a personal assistant.

00:08:02.840 28?

00:08:03.480 I am.

00:08:03.960 Okay.

00:08:04.440 That's cool.

00:08:04.900 I believe you.

00:08:06.100 Thank you.

00:08:09.100 My name's Alyssa.

00:08:10.420 I'm 24, and I work in medicine.

00:08:14.600 Are, like, weed?

00:08:15.580 I'm trying to get into nursing school right now.

00:08:17.420 You sell weed?

00:08:18.020 No, no, no.

00:08:18.960 I'm, like, I work at a dermatologist.

00:08:21.100 Oh, okay.

00:08:21.440 So we do, like, skin care, cancer treatment, Botox filler.

00:08:25.040 Your skin is impeccable.

00:08:26.280 Thank you.

00:08:26.980 Thank you so much.

00:08:27.540 Impeccable.

00:08:28.080 It's been a lot of effort.

00:08:29.760 Oh, I should have asked you this before the show.

00:08:31.920 Are you, so, are you willing to show the...

00:08:35.420 Oh, yeah, for sure.

00:08:36.240 Wait.

00:08:37.860 Wait.

00:08:38.520 Other one?

00:08:39.440 Oh, for sure.

00:08:39.800 What are we showing?

00:08:40.920 They can't see?

00:08:41.720 It's covered by the microphone.

00:08:42.820 Wait.

00:08:43.160 I think...

00:08:44.560 Wait.

00:08:44.880 Okay.

00:08:45.500 Oh, no.

00:08:46.120 This way.

00:08:46.580 This way?

00:08:47.080 This way.

00:08:47.940 Oh, the hair?

00:08:49.300 I lived in Europe when I was 18, and I just kind of decided that I didn't want to shave

00:08:55.060 because it was uncomfortable, so why not?

00:08:59.100 Get some hair.

00:09:00.060 Oh, that's cute.

00:09:01.560 Wait.

00:09:01.960 So, because you went to Europe for a year, that was...

00:09:05.240 Well, it was just kind of more that, like, I realized that you didn't have to and that

00:09:09.120 beauty standards for women in America are significantly different than, like, the rest of the world,

00:09:14.460 and so my perspective shifted, and therefore, I didn't care as much.

00:09:19.340 Can I ask a question?

00:09:20.520 Absolutely.

00:09:21.140 Would you let me sniff your pits?

00:09:22.440 Go for it.

00:09:23.040 I've been working all day.

00:09:24.520 I'm sorry.

00:09:25.280 Are we breaking rules?

00:09:26.100 Let's save it for later.

00:09:27.220 Let's save it for later.

00:09:28.320 You're so right, though.

00:09:29.060 Okay.

00:09:29.540 Well, we have a date.

00:09:30.260 Thank you.

00:09:30.380 Yeah.

00:09:30.820 You and I.

00:09:31.740 I'm here for it, babe.

00:09:32.520 Perfect.

00:09:32.880 Right after this.

00:09:33.840 Woo-hoo!

00:09:34.100 Let's go.

00:09:34.760 Can I show one of my pits?

00:09:35.940 Do you also have some...

00:09:37.440 I've got something.

00:09:38.140 Oh, man.

00:09:39.100 Is it?

00:09:41.120 They're so afraid of you.

00:09:43.320 Oh.

00:09:43.860 Oh, it's a tattoo?

00:09:45.160 Oh, wow.

00:09:45.720 That must have been so painful.

00:09:47.400 Loki, that's better than the...

00:09:48.880 Six hours, baby.

00:09:50.100 That's fine.

00:09:50.720 That took more money.

00:09:51.840 Six hours?

00:09:52.180 And energy and effort.

00:09:52.880 This is a six-hour piece.

00:09:53.820 This I just grew by myself.

00:09:54.960 Six hours?

00:09:55.960 So, there's something about armpit tattoos that no one will ever tell you.

00:09:59.360 They hurt.

00:10:00.120 They hurt.

00:10:00.740 They hurt.

00:10:01.140 And part two is that during the healing, the back area, as you close your arm and keep it

00:10:07.080 closed, will heal together.

00:10:08.680 So, every time you open your arm, it rips open again.

00:10:12.380 And so, you have to get it touched up until this scarring no longer appears.

00:10:16.840 Oh, no.

00:10:17.480 Okay.

00:10:17.680 And it is pretty hardcore.

00:10:19.500 Thank you for that information.

00:10:20.700 All right.

00:10:21.040 Good to know.

00:10:21.320 Yeah.

00:10:21.600 Heads up if anybody wants an armpit tattoo.

00:10:24.180 If anyone was thinking about it, today is the day that you learned some things.

00:10:27.340 Yeah.

00:10:27.580 We'll come back to the armpit hair discussion shortly.

00:10:29.960 Okay.

00:10:30.320 Go ahead.

00:10:31.720 Why don't you introduce yourself?

00:10:32.860 Okay.

00:10:33.180 So, my name is Neko Mia, and I am 21 years old, and I work full-time on OnlyFans.

00:10:41.280 You said 21, right?

00:10:42.640 Yes.

00:10:42.900 Okay.

00:10:46.100 Oh.

00:10:46.680 My name is Emma, and I'm 25 years old, and I work as a nanny slash personal chef.

00:10:54.360 And I'm also a student at UCSB as an ecology and evolution major.

00:10:59.000 Go Gachos.

00:10:59.600 That's dope.

00:11:00.160 Go Gachos.

00:11:01.960 I'm with a camera.

00:11:03.840 I'm a dating coach and a relationship coach.

00:11:07.080 I'm from L.A. from Comp.

00:11:09.040 Well, I'm from Gardena, which is, like, right next to Compton.

00:11:12.420 And, yeah, I've been doing this for two years.

00:11:14.580 I help, like, wealthy men.

00:11:16.940 I love Gardena area.

00:11:18.820 You for real?

00:11:19.540 I love it.

00:11:20.520 All the food out there is so yummy.

00:11:23.900 I go everywhere.

00:11:24.880 Gardena and Torrance are, like, my favorite areas.

00:11:27.300 They got the best food in the fucking country.

00:11:28.840 The food there is immaculate.

00:11:30.400 I love it.

00:11:31.060 I love it out there.

00:11:31.960 That's my hometown, so I feel that.

00:11:34.620 Gardena.

00:11:35.360 Oh, I was about to say.

00:11:36.160 I'm, like, a hop, skip, and a jump away from you.

00:11:37.920 Yeah.

00:11:38.280 You're, like, right there.

00:11:39.260 Yeah.

00:11:39.780 That's cool.

00:11:40.140 L.A.

00:11:40.840 L.A. right there, which is, like, 45 minutes in traffic, you know.

00:11:44.340 And you post content on TikTok, Instagram.

00:11:47.160 Oh, yeah.

00:11:47.640 I just got into, like, posting content on TikTok.

00:11:51.660 You can find me on Twitter.

00:11:53.580 It's cool like that.

00:11:54.600 Okay.

00:11:55.040 You can find me on Twitter, TikTok.

00:11:56.860 TikTok, I just got into, like, Instagram, so my following isn't that high on Instagram.

00:12:02.900 But TikTok, literally today, I just passed, like, 10K.

00:12:06.520 Yay!

00:12:08.280 So I'm still, like, a small creator, but, like, by next year, I should be pretty good.

00:12:12.360 So, yeah, that's rad.

00:12:14.300 Hey, Uz, thank you for the membership, man.

00:12:16.140 Appreciate it.

00:12:16.900 Watching from France, thank you.

00:12:19.220 Merci beaucoup.

00:12:20.160 Okay.

00:12:21.000 Appreciate it.

00:12:22.440 So, guys, everyone's Instagrams are in the description.

00:12:25.120 Show them some love.

00:12:26.140 Give them a follow.

00:12:29.480 Yeah.

00:12:30.080 Okay.

00:12:31.160 So, let me just have you, can you pop off the wrist thing?

00:12:38.080 The chain?

00:12:38.340 It's making a little noise on the tape.

00:12:39.780 Oh, for sure.

00:12:40.220 Yeah, if you just want to throw that in your pocket.

00:12:42.360 So, we're going to go around the table one more time.

00:12:44.180 Guys, current relationship status, longest relationship, and are you on any dating apps?

00:12:49.880 Go ahead.

00:12:51.000 Yeah, I'm actually partnered.

00:12:53.380 My longest relationship is about five years.

00:12:57.900 Partnered?

00:12:58.540 Is your current relationship the five-year one?

00:13:01.520 Yeah, yeah.

00:13:02.380 Okay.

00:13:03.640 I would say, other than that, four and a half, so it's a close second.

00:13:08.440 You said you're partnered.

00:13:09.760 Are you, is it a heterosexual relationship?

00:13:12.040 Is it?

00:13:13.040 We are.

00:13:13.860 Yeah, we are.

00:13:14.740 Okay.

00:13:14.960 But we are polyamorous.

00:13:16.580 Poly.

00:13:17.140 Okay.

00:13:17.340 Mm-hmm.

00:13:17.920 Or ethical non-monogamy, whatever you want to call it.

00:13:19.760 E&M.

00:13:20.320 Yeah, E&M.

00:13:21.560 I'm actually on Field.

00:13:23.100 It's an E&M app.

00:13:24.800 Field.

00:13:25.360 I've never heard of that.

00:13:26.100 Yeah, F-E-E-L-D.

00:13:27.620 Honestly, it's really inclusionary.

00:13:29.480 I know maybe that's not for everybody, but that, yeah, you can select out by gender in

00:13:35.160 terms of, like, even trans people.

00:13:38.120 If you want, if you're looking for trans women, trans men, couples, it's for couples.

00:13:42.100 For those of the looking for a third, now there's an app to find a third.

00:13:46.880 It's, like, designated for that.

00:13:48.420 So, I love that there's a place for it, because I know, unlike apps like Tinder, I know how

00:13:54.080 it can be upsetting for some people to just always see, especially, like, bisexual women.

00:13:59.100 It can be frustrating trying to find other women, and you just find couples.

00:14:03.640 So, it's nice that there's a place for that now, Field.

00:14:06.000 I'm not promoting them, but not sponsored.

00:14:10.280 So, how long have you been seeing your current partner?

00:14:12.900 Yeah, five years.

00:14:13.800 Oh, five?

00:14:14.340 Yes.

00:14:14.520 Okay, gotcha.

00:14:15.360 I thought that was a different relationship.

00:14:16.640 All good, yeah.

00:14:17.140 Five years, okay.

00:14:18.020 Okay, and was it, did it start open, or was it monogamous at the beginning, and then it

00:14:25.000 switched, or?

00:14:26.120 Sure, no, it was very monogamous at the beginning.

00:14:28.520 Um, in fact, um, I was still, um, very religious at the beginning, and that's a whole other

00:14:37.580 conversation, maybe for another day.

00:14:40.120 Um, but yeah, we started out monogamous, and it was actually in accepting more of my queer

00:14:44.840 identity and wanting to, um, not even necessarily be sexual with other women, but wanting to explore

00:14:51.180 relationships with other women on a deeper level, and that's where polyam comes in, um,

00:14:56.500 because you don't necessarily have to be sexual, but it's important to be on the same page that,

00:15:01.380 like, love and romance will be involved.

00:15:04.100 Okay.

00:15:04.800 Yeah.

00:15:05.160 And did you, did someone broach that, like, was it him, was it you that wanted to open

00:15:10.700 up the relationship?

00:15:11.880 No, it was me.

00:15:13.200 Um, my partner is demisexual, and, you know, for those who aren't familiar, it means that

00:15:18.080 you cannot be sexually attracted to someone who you don't have a, an emotional connection

00:15:22.380 with already.

00:15:22.980 And so he's demisexual, so for him, finding outside relationships can be really difficult.

00:15:28.000 Um, but I'm actually on the ace spectrum.

00:15:31.440 You're asexual?

00:15:32.860 Yeah.

00:15:33.780 Okay.

00:15:34.240 Yeah.

00:15:34.500 So do you, you guys not have intercourse?

00:15:38.540 Oh, Brian, this is, this is such a long conversation.

00:15:42.580 Oh my gosh.

00:15:43.460 We occasionally do, and it's more of a method of connection as opposed to sexual attraction.

00:15:48.660 It's more of like being able to be close to somebody.

00:15:50.900 Yeah.

00:15:51.460 Because I don't necessarily derive anything from sexual connections, um, outside of the

00:15:57.460 same way people want to give massages to their partner.

00:16:00.140 You know, people want to service their partner in other ways.

00:16:02.780 And so that's kind of how I see sex.

00:16:04.860 It's like a service that I provide to my partner, um, who I love very much and I want

00:16:08.660 to feel connected to, and we can connect in that way.

00:16:11.000 But yeah, I mean, but because of that, it isn't very often.

00:16:13.980 Do you get jealous at all?

00:16:16.040 Are you seeing other people too, or is it just more so open for him because you're asexual?

00:16:21.060 Sure.

00:16:21.580 Actually, uh, my partner wasn't interested at all in opening the relationship and we've

00:16:26.640 been having a lot of discussions about that.

00:16:28.480 We're very new to it as well.

00:16:30.280 Um, I'm so sorry.

00:16:32.480 What was the question?

00:16:34.280 Uh, does he get jealous?

00:16:35.880 Oh, I would say he gets jealous more than I do.

00:16:39.200 Um, but even still, Polly is all about communication.

00:16:44.840 So anytime there's a moment of jealousy, we, we bring things back.

00:16:48.180 If I'm, you know, maybe seeing somebody, I might want to deescalate that just to, uh,

00:16:53.440 focus on my current relationship with him is my priority at this point, especially since

00:16:58.520 we are so new into the community.

00:17:00.880 Um, as far as jealousy for me, I actually, when I, when I broached the topic, I know it's

00:17:06.040 very hypocritical.

00:17:07.040 Eight months ago is when we really started talking about this.

00:17:09.640 And even in imagining him being with other people, I was feeling like this extreme jealousy,

00:17:14.220 but after, you know, that, that was eight months ago.

00:17:17.100 And I've had a lot of time to process and think about it of all these hypotheticals.

00:17:20.880 And I'm personally at a point now where, I mean, maybe this is a little too crass, but

00:17:26.060 I could imagine my partner having sex with somebody else and being, um, happy for them

00:17:30.180 and then being able to enjoy something and experience like that.

00:17:32.960 Good for you.

00:17:33.880 I love it.

00:17:34.360 It's, you know, I know that's, uh, maybe a little too intense, but so what's the point

00:17:39.560 of putting a label on it?

00:17:41.540 I don't know.

00:17:42.320 We're committed to each other.

00:17:43.360 I guess that's all that matters.

00:17:45.040 Honestly, I feel I am also in a similar situation relationship wise.

00:17:50.040 Um, and I feel like sometimes putting a label on it just kind of helps us guide, uh, the path

00:17:56.760 of what we are walking on and just to kind of help conceptualize it a little bit more,

00:18:01.260 but that doesn't mean we follow the label to the T.

00:18:04.480 I personally think labels are just there kind of as a guide.

00:18:07.620 You know, you know what I mean?

00:18:08.720 How old is your partner?

00:18:12.440 33.

00:18:13.320 I'm sorry.

00:18:13.840 That took me a second.

00:18:14.900 And you're 47.

00:18:15.900 I am 47 age gap relationship.

00:18:18.860 Whoa.

00:18:19.540 Yeah.

00:18:21.660 Ryan, get it together.

00:18:23.620 Oh my Lord.

00:18:27.200 Usually it's the other way around.

00:18:29.140 That's what I'm a very dominant woman.

00:18:30.920 I don't, I mean, absolutely.

00:18:33.380 I'm an incredible house.

00:18:35.540 Very dominant woman.

00:18:37.880 Are you, are you also a dominant man?

00:18:40.860 Are we competing for alpha status?

00:18:42.900 Val.

00:18:43.100 Now's the time to ask.

00:18:44.000 You think you're alpha?

00:18:45.160 I, I don't believe in that, but I'm just messing with you.

00:18:48.000 Okay.

00:18:48.380 Now's the time to ask.

00:18:49.740 Oh.

00:18:49.980 Oh, I do have a question.

00:18:51.840 For who?

00:18:52.520 I mean, I hope we're not too early into the podcast.

00:18:55.900 Um, I would love to hear both of your, as, you know, as men.

00:18:59.260 You know what?

00:18:59.680 Actually, if everyone wants to take a turn, if this is okay, I would love to hear opinions

00:19:04.120 on pegging.

00:19:05.380 Ooh, I've done it.

00:19:06.640 Oh no, the face you made.

00:19:09.820 No.

00:19:10.220 Well, we, we need to go around the table and let everyone explain their relationship

00:19:14.480 status.

00:19:15.180 So we can come back to that.

00:19:16.800 Perfect.

00:19:17.300 All right.

00:19:17.720 Put a pin in it.

00:19:18.580 Great.

00:19:19.180 Put a peg in it, baby.

00:19:19.860 Put it up, peggers.

00:19:22.220 So.

00:19:25.680 Thank you so much for having me, by the way.

00:19:28.180 I'm loving this.

00:19:29.420 I, I, here's the thing, right?

00:19:31.260 So I dated a woman who was 45.

00:19:33.400 Okay.

00:19:33.640 And I feel like some people age differently, but I do think I have a good eye for someone's

00:19:39.240 age.

00:19:40.820 And I just, the reason I'm pushing back on this, and I hope you don't object is if you're

00:19:47.300 prepared to misrepresent something so basic, something like biographical information, such

00:19:53.480 as your age, it, it makes me concerned as if we're going to be able to have a productive

00:19:59.700 conversation, if you're lying about something so basic as your biographical information.

00:20:04.620 Sure.

00:20:04.980 Do you see my concern?

00:20:06.060 Yes.

00:20:06.580 Okay.

00:20:06.940 So I had my fun.

00:20:08.420 I'm not 47.

00:20:09.560 I am 23, but you're not 23 either though.

00:20:13.280 No, I am.

00:20:15.200 She's not 23.

00:20:16.600 Oh my God.

00:20:17.220 You guys, age is just a number guys.

00:20:20.080 No, I'm not capping.

00:20:21.160 I really am.

00:20:22.380 Really?

00:20:22.660 I'm 23?

00:20:23.360 Yeah.

00:20:24.000 Oh, okay.

00:20:24.600 Well.

00:20:24.880 Yeah.

00:20:26.040 So, I mean, thank you for playing with me.

00:20:28.220 This was very fun, but yeah, I'm 23.

00:20:30.380 I appreciate you putting up a bit of a challenge there for me.

00:20:32.740 Okay.

00:20:33.680 Thank you, thank you, thank you.

00:20:34.840 Okay.

00:20:35.420 Moving on.

00:20:36.280 Current relationship status, longest relationship?

00:20:38.680 Single is current, thankfully.

00:20:42.020 And longest relationship would have to be probably about three and a half years, and it wasn't

00:20:45.780 healthy, so we can just like cancel that one.

00:20:48.140 How long have you been single?

00:20:49.880 Um, technically, I've been single for like four months.

00:20:54.580 Okay.

00:20:54.980 But there was a situation ship, for lack of a better term, about a couple weeks ago that

00:20:59.820 ended quite abruptly.

00:21:01.800 Um.

00:21:02.060 Why did he dump you?

00:21:03.440 Yeah, we'll go with that.

00:21:04.840 Thank you.

00:21:05.440 Okay.

00:21:06.040 We'll go with that.

00:21:07.220 No, yeah.

00:21:07.660 He did, uh, kind of an interesting situation.

00:21:12.060 I'll ask your guys' advice on that later.

00:21:13.700 Sure.

00:21:14.240 Go ahead.

00:21:15.300 Oh, okay.

00:21:16.340 Um, I have hoes in different area codes.

00:21:19.220 Um.

00:21:19.520 Hell yeah.

00:21:19.840 Yeah.

00:21:20.920 No, actually, I do, actually.

00:21:22.740 Eric, can you boost the volume?

00:21:23.980 Can you?

00:21:24.400 What is that?

00:21:25.140 Yeah, no, I can attest.

00:21:25.860 Oh, really?

00:21:26.300 I believe you.

00:21:26.700 This is my best friend, Emma, by the way.

00:21:28.560 I, yeah.

00:21:29.580 I believe you.

00:21:29.940 There'd be a few on, on the roster.

00:21:32.200 It's a fun time.

00:21:32.840 It's much better that way.

00:21:33.960 I think it's better to keep like, at least two people kind of in your thoughts so that one

00:21:39.140 doesn't dominate your whole brain, you know?

00:21:42.880 So, how many people are you seeing right now?

00:21:46.240 I mean, at the moment, like, actively, I'm seeing one person, but I was seeing somebody

00:21:50.540 else that I kind of lost interest for.

00:21:53.300 Okay.

00:21:53.760 Um, but.

00:21:55.100 Recently, you were seeing two people?

00:21:56.980 Yes.

00:21:57.360 Okay.

00:21:57.620 And before that, like, during COVID, it was like six.

00:22:01.000 Six during COVID?

00:22:02.120 Yeah, it was fun.

00:22:03.000 It was a lot of fun.

00:22:03.660 And is, uh, is six the most amount of people that you've seen concurrently?

00:22:08.260 Or has there been periods where it's been more than six?

00:22:10.880 You know, I guess I don't really, like, think about it in my head as like, ah, right now

00:22:16.400 I have six dudes or women that I would like to, you know, go out with on a Tuesday night.

00:22:23.340 You know, I have six different, I don't really think about it like that.

00:22:25.520 I'm just kind of like.

00:22:26.500 One question.

00:22:27.100 It happened.

00:22:27.520 One question.

00:22:28.020 Are those correctional lenses or are those?

00:22:30.160 Oh, you want to try them?

00:22:31.600 No, I'm just curious.

00:22:32.340 They're very, yes.

00:22:33.020 Okay.

00:22:33.280 Okay.

00:22:33.660 You need them then.

00:22:34.440 I very much need them.

00:22:35.100 Okay, that's fine.

00:22:35.440 Since I was five, I got made fun of.

00:22:36.880 And now they're cool.

00:22:37.680 Isn't that crazy?

00:22:38.320 Let me ask you a question.

00:22:39.160 So you said, uh, you think six is the most that you've had concurrent?

00:22:43.480 Maybe.

00:22:43.940 Yeah.

00:22:44.100 Something around there.

00:22:44.960 Could have been more, maybe seven, eight.

00:22:46.540 Probably.

00:22:47.160 I don't know.

00:22:47.720 Maybe.

00:22:48.160 Okay.

00:22:48.700 It was like during the era of like, I'm really sick of this pandemic and I want somebody to

00:22:53.940 meet each of my needs.

00:22:55.660 Oh.

00:22:56.340 Interesting.

00:22:56.800 Okay.

00:22:57.260 Meet each of your needs.

00:22:58.480 That's interesting.

00:23:00.000 Um, so.

00:23:00.660 Because one person doesn't meet all of your needs, right?

00:23:02.980 Yes.

00:23:03.140 So like.

00:23:03.760 Yeah, yeah.

00:23:04.100 Let's go into that.

00:23:05.140 Let's go into that a little bit.

00:23:06.260 Yeah.

00:23:06.620 So.

00:23:08.700 What were the needs that you were getting met from each individual?

00:23:13.280 Maybe.

00:23:13.640 So for example, maybe one guy, he was your dinner date.

00:23:17.160 No.

00:23:17.400 One other guy.

00:23:18.520 I catch your drift.

00:23:19.340 I know exactly what you're talking about.

00:23:20.580 And that's absolutely correct.

00:23:22.500 There was a time in my life where I was working.

00:23:26.780 Well, back up.

00:23:28.680 I, my parents cut me off during the pandemic.

00:23:30.980 And so the job that I was working paid for my bills just fine before.

00:23:34.800 And then all of a sudden I had a one bedroom apartment with $1,600 worth of rent and two

00:23:40.420 pets and a whole life to pay for.

00:23:43.020 Um, and so food kind of hit like the lowest tier of like priority on rent, animals, healthcare,

00:23:52.360 life, you know?

00:23:53.200 So it was almost kind of out of like a need for a little while.

00:23:58.220 Are you cold by the way?

00:23:59.740 Um, a little bit, but it's okay.

00:24:01.120 I have like a big jacket, so it's not a big deal.

00:24:03.200 Okay.

00:24:03.820 Eric, do you want to just close the door?

00:24:05.060 Go ahead.

00:24:05.500 Oh, thanks.

00:24:06.200 I appreciate that.

00:24:07.900 Um.

00:24:09.680 Sorry.

00:24:10.040 Bless you.

00:24:10.600 Sorry.

00:24:10.820 Where were we?

00:24:13.840 Uh, there was a food guy.

00:24:15.580 Oh, yes.

00:24:15.860 Okay.

00:24:16.180 So basically at first I just kind of started scrolling through like, you know, Hinge just

00:24:22.240 to see if I could like find a dinner date.

00:24:24.660 And then I actually kind of really liked all of the people that I ended up going out with.

00:24:28.980 And the thing that I actually thought was kind of funny is a lot of my-

00:24:31.760 Beat and Cheeks super chatted $50.

00:24:34.120 Brian, I will fly you Colombian women right now to replace the clown.

00:24:38.500 Hippie and girls are taking the seat.

00:24:40.820 Holly, who's on the panel?

00:24:42.460 Do you actually see yourselves ever entering a serious relationship with a decent guy with

00:24:46.820 your indecency?

00:24:48.360 Oh.

00:24:48.840 Oh, that's cute.

00:24:50.000 Girl, why Colombian?

00:24:50.860 Baby, we've been in serious relationships.

00:24:52.720 What do you mean entering relationships?

00:24:54.540 We have them, baby.

00:24:57.260 We're not interested in you, honey.

00:24:58.800 I'm sorry.

00:24:59.500 Ooh, oh.

00:25:00.840 Ow.

00:25:01.740 We'll pull that one back up and we'll get to it.

00:25:04.060 Cheeks.

00:25:05.300 We'll have you continue with your story.

00:25:06.980 So, okay.

00:25:07.640 Yeah.

00:25:07.900 Okay.

00:25:08.100 So, basically, you know, it was funny because all of the, like, apps that I was using, the

00:25:13.240 people that I would go out with would be like, you know, you're the first person that actually

00:25:16.860 we, like, took it out of the chat, you know?

00:25:19.280 Like, they're like, I've been talking to people for weeks and months and I never see them.

00:25:24.080 But, you know, it was kind of like one of those things where I was like, well, hey,

00:25:26.420 what's up?

00:25:26.740 I think you're cool.

00:25:27.300 Let's get dinner.

00:25:27.880 And then real connections, like, actually started from that, you know?

00:25:32.500 I had this one guy.

00:25:33.620 Can you just enumerate the, you said that they met, each one of them met a different need.

00:25:38.540 Can you just quickly enumerate?

00:25:39.540 I was actually just about to get there.

00:25:40.900 Okay.

00:25:41.000 Go ahead.

00:25:41.480 Go ahead.

00:25:41.580 So, I had this one guy that he would text me every morning, good morning, and he would

00:25:46.140 be like, oh, good night, sweetheart.

00:25:47.700 And anytime I needed him, he was just there.

00:25:50.540 And that was great because I don't want to, like, guys, don't do that shit.

00:25:56.000 Here's the thing, though.

00:25:57.120 Women love it.

00:25:57.920 And if you want to get laid, then they will fuck you if you do that.

00:26:01.800 I don't do that.

00:26:02.760 But that's good for you.

00:26:03.640 But maybe the women that you like don't like that.

00:26:05.400 But the men I like and the women I like do that to me.

00:26:08.360 And I like that.

00:26:09.320 Everyone has their own preferences, you know?

00:26:12.120 Continue, continue.

00:26:13.180 So, there was another one that, you know, every once in a while, he would get me some, like,

00:26:17.160 nice gifts.

00:26:18.300 And so, like, that was kind of nice.

00:26:19.540 I have, like, a gold necklace with my name on it and, like, a Cartier bracelet.

00:26:23.800 Okay.

00:26:25.160 That was kind of nice.

00:26:26.320 I appreciated that.

00:26:27.220 He took me to the Four Seasons a lot.

00:26:29.240 And I had a nice birthday.

00:26:31.080 That was cool.

00:26:33.000 Gosh, what was the other one?

00:26:33.980 There was another one that I used to just go out to restaurants with in Santa Barbara.

00:26:36.820 That was, I think, my favorite because we kind of had, like, we would try a new place,

00:26:42.040 like, every week, you know?

00:26:43.340 And so, I joke now with my coworkers that I've been to all of the nice date spots in town.

00:26:47.300 And so, everyone always asks me.

00:26:48.480 And, okay, so you were seeing all these guys all at the same time pretty much concurrently.

00:26:52.700 And then...

00:26:53.040 And were you sleeping with all of them or just some of them you slept with?

00:26:56.000 No, I was sleeping with them when I was feeling like it.

00:26:58.260 There was no obligation, though.

00:26:59.760 I made it really clear, like, from the beginning that, like, this isn't, like, an exchange type

00:27:05.240 of relationship.

00:27:06.140 Like, I'm here because I like you and you're here because you like me.

00:27:08.920 And if that changes, then, like, we're done.

00:27:11.240 Okay.

00:27:11.460 The pandemic, I think, really brought about the need for human connection in a way that

00:27:16.700 I think was kind of pushed to the side before because we were always so busy with other things.

00:27:21.840 And then, all of a sudden, when we didn't have people in the grocery store and, you know,

00:27:27.060 at our daily walks just out and about in the neighborhood, you kind of start to realize

00:27:31.500 that, like, just sitting across from the table with somebody and sharing a meal and having

00:27:36.140 a conversation about your day, you know, oh, that guy was so rude to me or, oh, that lady

00:27:41.720 was so cute and she helped the dog.

00:27:43.520 You know, I don't know.

00:27:44.000 Something stupid.

00:27:44.720 But, like, just the ability to, like, have human connection in a way that, like, there's

00:27:50.480 no, I don't know.

00:27:52.020 There's, like, no extra strings.

00:27:54.500 There's no expectations.

00:27:56.260 And so, just to confirm, was it you were sleeping concurrently with six guys, was it?

00:28:02.080 Well, no, there were women involved, too.

00:28:03.720 Oh, so six men and a few women?

00:28:06.080 No, there were six people.

00:28:07.400 Six people?

00:28:07.980 Yeah.

00:28:08.340 Okay, so three men, three women, four men?

00:28:11.560 It's, like, two.

00:28:11.780 I think there were, like, two women at once.

00:28:13.400 Okay, two women, four men.

00:28:14.440 Mostly, it was typically dominated by men, but I would say that's only because you go

00:28:19.700 on Hinge for two seconds.

00:28:20.960 You go, boop, boop, and then they go, please expend your area.

00:28:24.740 You have lost all range.

00:28:26.600 There's nobody else in the whole area.

00:28:29.480 So, and then, you're friends with all the lesbians, and they're either coupled or they're

00:28:33.840 your friend.

00:28:35.720 So, that is very common.

00:28:37.960 That's so real.

00:28:38.780 Very common experience.

00:28:39.920 You're pulled from this to this to this, and then there's, like, one person that you're

00:28:43.540 kind of crushing on, and then you sleep with her, and it's not as good as you want it to

00:28:46.360 be.

00:28:47.060 Such a letdown.

00:28:47.880 So, just curious.

00:28:50.720 So, let's say, like, in a week time, what's the most, because maybe, I don't know if this

00:28:55.740 was, you said it was concurrent, but maybe it was spread out over months.

00:28:58.640 I mean, it was, like, during the pandemic, right?

00:29:00.260 It was, like, in a span of, like, you know, six months, but it was, like, all of these people

00:29:03.920 I was, like, talking to.

00:29:04.820 I want to ask you a question.

00:29:05.920 What is the, in a week's time, seven days, what's the most amount of people, maybe this

00:29:12.620 was before, after the pandemic, before this period, what's the most amount of people that

00:29:16.180 knew people that you've had sex with in a week's time?

00:29:19.660 Oh, I don't even know.

00:29:20.640 That's a great question.

00:29:22.360 Was it six?

00:29:23.520 I mean, probably not.

00:29:24.980 Okay.

00:29:25.260 I would say that I, like, kept the same, like, partners once I, like, found somebody that

00:29:29.140 I liked, but I would kind of, like, recycle out people that I didn't quite often.

00:29:33.260 Recycle.

00:29:34.280 What about composting and all?

00:29:35.700 Oh, like, I have a worm bin at home, actually.

00:29:37.880 I compost.

00:29:38.700 Okay.

00:29:38.980 I have a tiny little worm bin in my kitchen.

00:29:41.100 Yeah.

00:29:41.280 Oh, my gosh.

00:29:41.660 I haven't.

00:29:42.220 I have a garden.

00:29:43.120 We love an eco-friendly queen.

00:29:44.280 Thank you.

00:29:44.620 Yeah.

00:29:45.100 Are you talking about mealworms?

00:29:46.880 No, no.

00:29:47.540 Okay.

00:29:48.200 Unfortunately, they're, well, fortunately, they're earthworms, so they eat all of my, like,

00:29:51.520 food scraps, and that way, there's no methane.

00:29:55.240 We love that.

00:29:56.460 We love that.

00:29:57.660 The truth.

00:29:59.840 So, let me ask, in a 24-hour period.

00:30:04.500 Two.

00:30:05.420 Two people.

00:30:06.160 Yeah.

00:30:06.460 Okay.

00:30:06.980 Gotcha.

00:30:07.220 Within three hours.

00:30:08.580 Within three hours.

00:30:09.280 Whoa.

00:30:10.420 That, uh...

00:30:11.260 What about the 48-hour period?

00:30:13.760 Three?

00:30:14.860 Probably.

00:30:15.720 Yeah.

00:30:16.080 Four, maybe?

00:30:16.820 I don't know.

00:30:17.280 That's a great question.

00:30:18.240 Okay.

00:30:18.660 Well, it depends, because there was, like, a couple, like, there was, like, a threesome,

00:30:23.160 and then there was, like, the next day.

00:30:25.220 Okay.

00:30:25.500 So, like, does that count?

00:30:28.200 Technicalities.

00:30:28.760 I suppose.

00:30:29.000 I really hope that nursing school does not find this.

00:30:30.560 I think you're asking for very...

00:30:33.280 There seem to be some very complex answers.

00:30:35.920 Yeah, you're asking me questions that I've genuinely, like, never thought about, because

00:30:39.160 it's just kind of, like, I'm living my life just out here vibing, you know?

00:30:42.820 Yeah.

00:30:42.960 So...

00:30:43.400 Vibing usually means that you're trying to take dick, you know what I'm saying?

00:30:48.000 Uh, which is what I was just talking about.

00:30:50.180 That's so small-minded.

00:30:51.840 That's not small-minded.

00:30:53.000 Yeah, you can, you can vibe with someone and not have sex.

00:30:56.400 Um...

00:30:56.640 She said she was having sex.

00:30:57.940 I was.

00:30:58.440 No, I was, I was just out here vibing.

00:31:00.100 I think, really, like, my main thing is, like, I like having, like, quality time with

00:31:05.640 people.

00:31:06.040 That's kind of, like, my love language.

00:31:07.580 And so, like, I'm also a really hypersexual person, so...

00:31:10.820 So that's your love language?

00:31:12.440 Uh, both.

00:31:13.260 I think they can intertwine and, and combine at the same time, but they don't necessarily

00:31:17.240 always have to.

00:31:18.100 But in that 48-hour period, like, what quality time were you having?

00:31:22.860 We would go out to dinner, we'd watch a movie, we would snuggle, have a conversation about

00:31:26.980 the day.

00:31:27.740 I don't know, just catch up, talk about what your thoughts and your mind are, because

00:31:32.340 I live alone, and I don't get to talk about those things normally.

00:31:35.260 So feel like this sex.

00:31:36.040 So why don't you hit up your girls for, like, quality time?

00:31:38.520 I do!

00:31:38.800 We did yoga every single day during the pandemic.

00:31:41.980 Oh, you guys are...

00:31:42.640 That's so cute!

00:31:43.180 But I was living in the desert at the time, so we would do it over Skype, basically, or,

00:31:48.160 like...

00:31:48.800 So, like, once she got off the call, she was, like, calling her...

00:31:52.220 It's all day!

00:31:53.000 So here's the thing, here's the thing.

00:31:54.160 You're speaking, like, up?

00:31:54.740 I, during the pandemic, was furloughed from my job for, like, months.

00:31:59.580 And so all of a sudden...

00:32:01.480 I study science, right?

00:32:03.820 So before the pandemic, I was working 40 hours a week, I was going to school, I had zero time

00:32:08.460 for myself, I had no fun, I was so tired.

00:32:11.280 So all of a sudden, I had all of this time, school was online, I literally was just alone

00:32:17.040 in my apartment for, like, days.

00:32:19.720 Literally days.

00:32:21.020 She belongs to the streets!

00:32:22.760 Facts.

00:32:23.980 Go ahead.

00:32:26.020 What did it say?

00:32:27.060 I don't know.

00:32:27.300 She belonged to the streets, is what it said.

00:32:29.800 Oh, that's cute.

00:32:30.960 Your sound bites.

00:32:31.360 You know, I do love the streets.

00:32:32.560 The streets be calling.

00:32:33.400 They can be so beautiful, sometimes they have some string lights.

00:32:37.680 The streets can be very great.

00:32:38.180 The streets can be very great.

00:32:39.480 So it can't be that bad.

00:32:41.200 This is the difference between men and women, though.

00:32:43.420 So men, when they're, like, isolated, they develop that time to, like, self-improvement.

00:32:48.780 Well, how do you know that I didn't do that, too?

00:32:50.780 Because you just told me right now that you invited a lot of people over when you were home.

00:32:55.260 I didn't invite people over to my house.

00:32:57.500 I spent time alone in my home.

00:32:58.800 But then I went out on dates, and I spent time.

00:33:01.620 Why are you laughing?

00:33:02.760 I just, I don't understand, like, what your problem is with it.

00:33:06.480 My problem is that men and women approach that situation very differently.

00:33:11.020 Sure, but, like, my self-development has nothing to do with the fact that I was also involved in interpersonal relationships because I live alone and required them.

00:33:19.420 Can I ask you a question?

00:33:20.880 You required them.

00:33:22.060 Yeah, everyone requires interpersonal relationships, right?

00:33:24.700 To be content and happy in the world.

00:33:27.400 How would you feel if you were just by yourself for six months?

00:33:30.400 What's the difference between one?

00:33:31.820 Derek Mates, one super chatted, $49.99.

00:33:35.620 Who really expects a real man who is worthy of being called high values to give you the time of day?

00:33:41.040 If you just want hookups hit the streets?

00:33:43.540 Who actually wants stability or a partner for life?

00:33:46.380 Oh, we'll have to circle back to that.

00:33:47.620 What did you just describe?

00:33:48.960 Yeah, I mean, look, dude, I'm in my early 20s.

00:33:51.320 Like, I would love to settle down one day, but, like, I'm trying to live.

00:33:56.420 I don't understand this comment.

00:34:08.200 Yeah, I'm trying to parse that one.

00:34:10.820 Can you explain with, like, maybe another $50?

00:34:13.760 Oh.

00:34:15.160 But to her cash-up.

00:34:17.020 Yes.

00:34:17.500 Okay, let's...

00:34:20.680 Well, I would love to ask a question.

00:34:22.480 Yeah, please.

00:34:23.380 Actually.

00:34:23.980 Yeah.

00:34:24.420 Why do you think that having sexual intercourse or sexual relationships and self-improvement cannot coexist?

00:34:32.360 Exactly.

00:34:33.040 I never said that again.

00:34:33.820 You did.

00:34:34.340 I'm saying catching four bodies is...

00:34:37.180 I think it was six.

00:34:37.900 Oh, you called them bodies.

00:34:39.400 I think it was six.

00:34:40.320 Oh, see, I know everything about you just saying that you called them bodies.

00:34:43.680 Yeah, just let me finish real quick.

00:34:45.100 I'm saying catching six bodies, whether you're a man or a woman, it's like...

00:34:50.000 It is a lot to juggle.

00:34:51.320 Yes.

00:34:51.760 Yeah, so how can you even put time investment into self-improvement when you're trying to catch six bodies?

00:34:57.360 Can I chime in here for a second?

00:34:58.680 Please.

00:34:58.960 Um, so I think that if you want to grow as a person, personally, you should allow yourself to experience different things.

00:35:08.480 And sometimes that means experiencing other people and their thoughts and their values, right?

00:35:14.300 Think about...

00:35:15.200 When you say that, do you mean getting ran through?

00:35:19.860 Yes, Brian.

00:35:20.720 It can mean sex, but she also mentioned that they would have conversations.

00:35:29.540 Do you enjoy having conversations with people who can kind of challenge your thought and maybe give you a new perspective on things?

00:35:36.440 But when you think about different experiences, you're thinking about, like, hobbies, you know?

00:35:41.220 Like, women's hobbies...

00:35:42.480 That was a hobby for sure.

00:35:44.120 Yeah.

00:35:44.480 Having sex was your hobby?

00:35:46.100 Well, no, having relationships with people was definitely a hobby during the pandemic because there was nothing else to do besides...

00:35:52.240 Yeah, but at the end of the day, what did it result in?

00:35:54.400 It resulted in me learning a lot about myself, actually, because now I know what I like...

00:35:58.100 Now you know how to have sex better.

00:36:00.060 No.

00:36:00.620 Now I know what I like and dislike in a partner because it wasn't just a sexual relationship.

00:36:05.380 I know that that's what keeps getting brought back to you.

00:36:07.860 But the main aspect was actually not the sex.

00:36:10.460 It was the fact that I enjoyed these people's company.

00:36:12.840 So if it was just you enjoying their company, why didn't you just enjoy their company?

00:36:17.100 Because I'm a hypersexual person and I enjoy having sex.

00:36:19.560 So that's what I'm saying.

00:36:20.660 I don't understand.

00:36:21.980 Well, yeah, so why do those things have to be exclusive?

00:36:25.280 Why, you know, why can't you form a connection with someone and have a sexual relationship?

00:36:29.340 Yeah.

00:36:29.640 Why do those things have to be separate?

00:36:32.040 You don't fuck your friends?

00:36:32.960 To be fulfilled.

00:36:33.660 Yeah, friend fucking is fun.

00:36:35.060 I highly recommend it.

00:36:36.240 You're not friends if you're having sex.

00:36:38.660 Hell yeah.

00:36:39.140 They were definitely my friend.

00:36:40.160 They weren't anything more than that.

00:36:41.060 They're my friend first, sex after.

00:36:42.500 Well, just one question on the six concurrent thing.

00:36:45.720 Sure.

00:36:46.520 Were you open with them that you were seeing?

00:36:50.320 Yeah, I told people that I was seeing other people.

00:36:52.600 I feel like it's getting really blown out of proportion.

00:36:54.960 Genuinely, really what it was is I was just dating.

00:36:58.820 I was just dating.

00:37:00.340 And when you put a label on like the number and you talk about the fact that you have slept with all of them,

00:37:05.880 it sounds so dirty.

00:37:07.400 Oh, she's such a hoe.

00:37:08.400 Oh, but like genuinely, like we all date, right?

00:37:11.620 And like the fact that I have dated six people at the same time and, you know, maybe one of us has dated six people at different times.

00:37:19.120 What really?

00:37:20.120 What's the difference?

00:37:20.780 You have seen and slept with the same amount of people.

00:37:23.180 The timeline was just different.

00:37:24.340 The difference is that when you say dating, you're referring to going out on dates with people.

00:37:30.080 These are the people that you told to link up at, I'm guessing your place, right?

00:37:33.240 No, we went to dinner first, which is what I said before.

00:37:36.100 And it ended in sex.

00:37:37.740 Sure, because I wanted it to.

00:37:39.020 So when you're saying dating, you really mean sex?

00:37:42.880 No.

00:37:43.480 I think that there might be like.

00:37:45.120 But that's definitely.

00:37:46.420 I think that there might be a difference in like the terminology that's used maybe from just like even like women and men

00:37:53.740 because like I know a lot of people, you know, jump on the dating thing and it's like, okay, like we're exclusive.

00:37:59.000 And I can be like that sometimes too.

00:38:00.620 But I'm hearing like from this perspective, this is a perspective that I've never heard of before where somebody genuinely looks at that type of interaction as like we're dating, we're spending the time together.

00:38:11.880 But then I see what you're saying is like, oh, you know, like I'm just having my fun.

00:38:15.360 I'm doing my thing.

00:38:15.980 I'm navigating this.

00:38:17.720 Like what is life?

00:38:18.660 And like I see both.

00:38:19.940 Yeah.

00:38:20.800 I'm going back to what Brian said where he's saying like it sounds like an excuse to get ran through.

00:38:25.720 I mean, that's like a really disgusting term.

00:38:28.240 And I think that also that's kind of a really like harsh thing to say to women because you would only say that really to a woman, right?

00:38:37.580 You wouldn't say that to a dude.

00:38:39.460 Well, I mean, it's a little different, but a man could also be.

00:38:42.700 Sure.

00:38:42.940 But like you wouldn't.

00:38:43.800 I wouldn't sit here and say that to you if you told me you were seeing six people.

00:38:46.880 I'd be like, great.

00:38:47.360 Good for you.

00:38:47.920 I just want to point something out on the whole six people thing.

00:38:51.120 Well, but by the way, I'm seeing one like literally like one person now.

00:38:54.260 So like this was pandemic era when I was alone.

00:38:56.940 Okay.

00:38:57.340 So like now that the world is like back and like I'm doing life again, like that has gone away.

00:39:02.840 So do you, are you saying that you regret?

00:39:05.240 Never.

00:39:05.760 I don't want to put words in your mouth.

00:39:06.500 I have no regret.

00:39:07.220 What I'm saying though is like it was a situational opportunity that I took because I had the time and the energy to do so.

00:39:17.780 And I don't see that there's a problem with that.

00:39:21.840 There isn't.

00:39:22.400 I also think that it does come down to labels, right?

00:39:26.180 Because you did ask a question about labels earlier.

00:39:29.220 And I feel like where this miscommunication or challenge of thought may be coming from is just a difference of labels.

00:39:36.800 So you label dating one thing and she labels dating something different.

00:39:41.080 And I think that's really just what it is.

00:39:42.880 Well, a woman that I talk to, they usually say that they date to be in relationships.

00:39:48.460 Sure.

00:39:49.260 Whereas your situation was you were dating to see if you could have sex with them.

00:39:55.020 No, that's absolutely incorrect.

00:39:56.980 I don't know where you got that from.

00:39:58.460 I was dating to see what I would like, what kind of interest things, like I want to go out and do things.

00:40:02.200 I want to meet new people.

00:40:03.020 I want to see these types of people.

00:40:04.400 Is this an attribute that I like in this person?

00:40:06.900 Okay, I do.

00:40:07.460 I'm going to take that home with me.

00:40:09.080 And when I look for somebody that I do want to actually sit down and have a relationship with, those are the things I'm going to be looking for that I'm going to be like, oh, that's what I want.

00:40:17.520 You have all these attributes.

00:40:18.240 Well, I'm just going off the reality.

00:40:19.860 You get railed and still get to know people.

00:40:22.020 What she said is exactly, is exactly correct.

00:40:24.720 What I learned is what I like and I dislike from a partner in dating where, you know, personality, right?

00:40:31.100 Like, I mean, I see you rolling your eyes.

00:40:32.440 I don't really care.

00:40:33.200 But like genuinely, it has more, it has more to do with getting to know different attributes of different people.

00:40:40.960 And how your own person vibes with that in a relationship, romantically, sexually, socially.

00:40:47.780 How old were you during the pandemic?

00:40:50.160 I was 21 to 23.

00:40:53.240 So that also makes sense, right?

00:40:54.580 I was young.

00:40:54.920 You were young.

00:40:55.500 I was drinking.

00:40:56.500 I was going out to the bars.

00:40:57.160 Did you go to UCSB?

00:40:58.840 No, I'm a forever City College student.

00:41:01.780 I'm still there.

00:41:01.940 Did you live in Isla Vista?

00:41:03.100 No, I'm from here.

00:41:04.460 So I have my own one-bedroom apartment on the east side.

00:41:07.320 Okay.

00:41:08.320 Gotcha.

00:41:08.680 Just, I'm asking because you mentioned part of the reason why you wanted to date that many people at once is because you wanted to get some experience, right?

00:41:18.780 But did you not?

00:41:19.340 It wasn't sexual experience.

00:41:20.680 I think that's misconstrued.

00:41:21.880 Yeah, not sexual experience.

00:41:22.900 But you said you wanted to find out what you like, what you don't like.

00:41:26.400 Whether that be sexual or in a partner.

00:41:29.000 And so.

00:41:29.940 Sure.

00:41:30.400 Had you not been dating at all prior to this?

00:41:33.000 I was in a really crappy, kind of verbally abusive relationship for two years where I lived with him.

00:41:39.240 She experienced it.

00:41:40.540 It was really bad.

00:41:41.380 And genuinely, if I think about it in like a long-term thing, I probably went one pendulum swing to the other because that was just how my heart was hurt.

00:41:52.140 Okay.

00:41:52.940 And so like genuinely now that time has gone on and I've healed from that and he is no longer a thought in my mind and no longer a feeling I need to feel.

00:42:04.140 I don't feel the need to, you know, find validation or go out on dates or as much.

00:42:12.380 But I mean, like it wasn't just for sex.

00:42:14.580 It was more for just like dating.

00:42:17.000 Connection.

00:42:17.200 Connection.

00:42:17.560 Connection.

00:42:17.840 Connection.

00:42:18.320 Intimacy.

00:42:18.840 I do want to keep things moving.

00:42:20.500 Guys, we will get to the soup jets here in just a few minutes.

00:42:23.840 I'll have everyone else give their whole little thing on this.

00:42:26.640 I just wanted to make a statement on the sixth thing and I forgot exactly.

00:42:31.420 I just, I feel like we're really going back to that.

00:42:33.500 Getting very hung up.

00:42:34.220 What I would really like to say is like it wasn't like I was sitting there with a list like, ah, yes, there's Ziggy.

00:42:41.220 You know, like that's not me.

00:42:43.960 You know, like genuinely I think it was just that like it was kind of a game at first like with my coworkers where I'd be like, oh, let's see, ha ha, let's get dinner tonight.

00:42:52.580 And then I'd go out and I would kind of like them.

00:42:54.640 And then like there was just a handful eventually, you know.

00:42:59.160 And so it wasn't like I'm trying to check down a roster.

00:43:01.840 It was just like, oh, I really like this person that I'd like to facilitate connection with them further.

00:43:05.400 I would love to ask you another question, actually.

00:43:10.480 Yeah.

00:43:11.040 So we're talking about sex being involved as part of forming connections with people and seeing how other people love and interact.

00:43:17.440 Why is it that you the sex bothers you so much?

00:43:20.640 It or maybe not bothers me.

00:43:22.480 But I don't think it bothers me.

00:43:24.280 It doesn't bother me.

00:43:25.680 I think I think it's the terminology and I think it's the labels.

00:43:28.680 I think it's just a difference of opinion and more so a difference of perspective.

00:43:34.280 I think that's really just what it is.

00:43:37.380 That kind of hits on the point, but it's more like the deflection is what bothers me.

00:43:41.940 Where it's like, yeah, just only, you know what I'm saying?

00:43:44.160 Like you had sex with six different people.

00:43:46.480 She did.

00:43:47.020 I did.

00:43:47.420 I don't think she's the name.

00:43:48.820 Actually, I never didn't own that.

00:43:50.560 What I didn't own is the fact that you called me run through, which I think is rude.

00:43:54.640 And also the fact that I didn't.

00:43:55.900 Was that me?

00:43:57.020 It doesn't even matter.

00:43:57.740 That might have been me.

00:43:58.560 But either way, you repeated it.

00:44:00.160 And also the fact.

00:44:01.140 Well, it's the truth.

00:44:01.720 Oh, Brian.

00:44:02.260 I disagree with you.

00:44:03.820 Oh, Brian.

00:44:04.460 Then I ran through as well.

00:44:05.680 Oh, just one request.

00:44:06.900 Oh, my God, bro.

00:44:07.480 You don't want to know my body count.

00:44:09.040 Thank you.

00:44:09.640 Thank you.

00:44:10.360 Well, we can get to that in a sec.

00:44:11.980 Oh, just one request.

00:44:13.440 Yeah.

00:44:13.600 Just because our camera angles are a little scuffed.

00:44:15.660 Just when he's talking, if you notice here, can I just have you lean back ever so slightly?

00:44:19.960 Sure.

00:44:20.220 Oh, I see.

00:44:20.840 Yeah, just our camera angles are a little scuffed.

00:44:24.400 You mentioned your body count.

00:44:26.100 Yeah.

00:44:26.300 Do you want to reveal that really quick right now?

00:44:28.420 I'm going to be honest.

00:44:29.220 I stopped counting at 254.

00:44:31.800 So it's definitely above that.

00:44:34.160 What wrong?

00:44:34.920 Wait, 254?

00:44:36.400 254 is where I stopped counting.

00:44:38.620 And at what point?

00:44:41.120 So was that two years ago?

00:44:42.560 When did you stop counting?

00:44:43.560 That was last year in the summer is when I stopped counting.

00:44:49.180 254.

00:44:49.980 254, yes.

00:44:50.980 And when did you, at what age did you lose your virginity?

00:44:55.220 Am I allowed to say that?

00:44:56.540 Because I was...

00:44:57.080 Is it young?

00:44:58.380 I mean, I was not 18.

00:45:01.020 I was in high school.

00:45:02.180 I'll say that.

00:45:03.260 I'll say that.

00:45:03.980 Okay.

00:45:04.180 Yeah, I was in high school.

00:45:06.640 Yeah.

00:45:07.960 And was there a period of time, maybe when you started at 19 or 20, when you had a higher

00:45:14.180 frequency of sexual partners?

00:45:15.700 So we are streaming on Twitch, right?

00:45:17.300 I want to make sure I don't say anything that's like too...

00:45:20.100 Are you talking about like, you can say bedroom fun or...

00:45:23.820 Okay, yeah, yeah.

00:45:25.240 So I did mention that I do OnlyFans.

00:45:28.560 And with that, I make corn.

00:45:30.540 Like I actually make corn.

00:45:31.920 I don't just take pictures.

00:45:34.880 I don't just do the whole like IG baddie thing, teasing, whatever.

00:45:38.660 I make videos.

00:45:40.120 Get it, sis.

00:45:40.740 Can you push those two cups just forward?

00:45:42.920 No, this way, this way.

00:45:43.980 Push them to the center of the table.

00:45:45.780 This way?

00:45:46.260 Yeah, perfect.

00:45:46.860 There you go.

00:45:47.180 Okay, cool.

00:45:48.280 So I make videos.

00:45:49.580 And I started collaborating with people, I would want to say like a year ago.

00:45:56.500 And that's where there was a really big boom.

00:45:58.940 But I do know that we are also on the topic of relationship advice and stuff like that.

00:46:04.140 Tilt it?

00:46:04.740 Yeah, tilt it up towards you just to 10.

00:46:06.480 Like this?

00:46:07.040 Perfect.

00:46:07.520 Okay, cool.

00:46:08.340 I know that we are on the topic of relationships.

00:46:10.280 I do have a partner and they asked me specifically to not disclose any of like their, you know,

00:46:14.960 personal information.

00:46:16.380 We have been in a relationship for four years.

00:46:18.940 Four years.

00:46:19.860 Yes, we've been in a relationship for four years.

00:46:22.400 And we are also swingers.

00:46:25.480 So we do also both have other sexual partners.

00:46:30.100 Okay.

00:46:30.860 Good times.

00:46:31.520 Yeah.

00:46:32.180 And no, we did not start off that way.

00:46:34.900 I started off very monogamous.

00:46:37.080 I was raised in a very religious household.

00:46:39.680 Ditto.

00:46:40.280 And then I am actually the one who brought up opening up the relationship because I realized

00:46:45.000 that I have a fantasy that cannot be completed by one person.

00:46:50.200 And I really wanted to do that before I died.

00:46:52.900 Okay.

00:46:53.640 Incredible.

00:46:54.000 So do you think that, you said you stopped counting at 254.

00:46:58.980 Yes.

00:46:59.440 Do you think it's over 300?

00:47:01.360 I'm going to say it's close to 300.

00:47:03.800 Okay.

00:47:03.880 I think it's going to be like, if I really had to ballpark, I'm going to say maybe like

00:47:07.780 290 is like more so where it's around right now.

00:47:12.400 Okay.

00:47:12.940 I think, yes.

00:47:14.260 Okay.

00:47:14.560 Gotcha.

00:47:15.640 What about you?

00:47:16.240 Current relationship status, longest relationship?

00:47:19.060 Wow.

00:47:20.080 I feel very vanilla going behind.

00:47:23.160 Oh my God.

00:47:23.720 You be your vanilla self, baby girl.

00:47:25.560 Yeah.

00:47:25.620 Own it.

00:47:26.020 Okay.

00:47:26.680 I'm currently single.

00:47:28.000 The longest relationship I had was four and a half years.

00:47:31.740 I want to say like a little bit over four and a half years.

00:47:34.320 Okay.

00:47:34.820 How long were you single?

00:47:35.980 I've been single now for a little less than a year.

00:47:38.400 Okay.

00:47:39.680 Go ahead.

00:47:40.980 I'm single right now.

00:47:43.120 My longest relationship was like a year and a half, something like that.

00:47:47.600 And what was the last question?

00:47:49.420 Just longest relationship, current relationship status.

00:47:52.900 Oh yeah.

00:47:53.360 I'm single.

00:47:54.060 Longest relationship was a year and a half.

00:47:56.500 Okay.

00:47:57.180 Okay.

00:47:58.000 And so since you shared your body count, I guess we can get this out of the way now.

00:48:03.340 What's your body count?

00:48:05.700 I don't know.

00:48:08.660 I don't know.

00:48:09.620 I wish I could answer.

00:48:10.720 Range?

00:48:11.520 Estimate?

00:48:12.960 Guestimate.

00:48:14.040 I'm going to be here for a minute.

00:48:15.520 Truly, truly, I don't know.

00:48:17.080 I definitely don't think it's as high as me is.

00:48:20.380 I definitely don't think we're there.

00:48:23.200 Triple digits?

00:48:24.560 Oh God.

00:48:25.440 Probably not.

00:48:26.360 Okay.

00:48:27.120 Probably not.

00:48:27.960 But yeah, I went through a phase in my life.

00:48:31.780 I consider myself a spec now, but I went through a phase in my life where I wanted to sort of

00:48:37.400 find that out for myself.

00:48:38.600 For a minute, I was like, am I gay?

00:48:40.020 Am I bi?

00:48:40.560 Like, I really didn't know.

00:48:42.640 Finding out that I was asexual was very confusing.

00:48:45.400 Um, but I would say that my body count would probably be maybe like, maybe like thirties.

00:48:52.220 Okay.

00:48:52.600 Yeah.

00:48:53.180 Sure.

00:48:53.500 Okay.

00:48:53.880 What about you?

00:48:54.240 Let me just premise this by saying that I am 28 years old, so I've lived a couple years

00:49:00.420 of life.

00:49:01.140 Um, and I did go to school here at UCSB, so if you know the culture, you know the culture.

00:49:05.160 Um, on that, I'm not going to give an exact number because I don't have one for you, Brian.

00:49:11.400 Sure.

00:49:13.600 However, um, I do indulge and I love sexual escapades, so.

00:49:18.960 Is it higher than 100?

00:49:20.420 Yes.

00:49:21.600 It's what?

00:49:22.300 It's higher than 100.

00:49:23.360 More than 100.

00:49:23.780 Can I get a dab for that?

00:49:24.360 It's probably higher than 200 as well.

00:49:26.380 Can I get a dab for that?

00:49:28.000 And I'm like, ah, give her a dab.

00:49:30.840 I'm not ashamed, to be honest.

00:49:32.480 Like, I think there's a whole culture surrounding like, you know, like women having sex, men

00:49:37.440 having sex, hookup culture, you know, like all of that and like sex being taboo, but I

00:49:42.500 also participated in OnlyFans back when it first took off.

00:49:45.760 So that kind of, um, kicked the ball for me.

00:49:49.400 However, um, the older I've get, I'm getting the less interest I have in those types of shenanigans.

00:49:55.940 And so you said it's, you think it's over 200.

00:49:59.400 Oh, I know it's over 200.

00:50:01.520 Meow.

00:50:02.480 Is it, um, three, closer to three or two?

00:50:08.700 Closer to three.

00:50:10.280 Oh my God.

00:50:10.900 Let's keep going.

00:50:11.640 Yeah.

00:50:12.600 Yes.

00:50:13.480 All right.

00:50:13.800 But not, not above three?

00:50:16.660 I don't have an, I can't answer.

00:50:18.180 I don't know.

00:50:18.820 I feel like you know the exact number.

00:50:19.740 You could fill in on limits.

00:50:21.060 She started off like a little bit.

00:50:22.460 It's, it's for, I mean, it's up there.

00:50:24.380 Like, I'm not going to hide the fact that like, I like to have fun times in the bedroom and

00:50:29.440 like.

00:50:29.740 And so you're, okay.

00:50:30.600 So you're 28.

00:50:31.720 I am.

00:50:32.120 Did you get most of these bodies?

00:50:35.580 I hate, please.

00:50:37.000 Can we not use that word actually?

00:50:38.380 Like bodies and body count is like so demeaning.

00:50:41.500 Honestly, I really hate that word.

00:50:42.640 Can we like.

00:50:43.520 I mean, it's.

00:50:44.840 It's demeaning.

00:50:45.640 Suitors.

00:50:46.220 To both people.

00:50:46.640 Yeah.

00:50:46.840 Like it's just kind of like, it's like you're a body, you know, like it's more than that.

00:50:51.540 It's like a connection.

00:50:52.660 I don't know.

00:50:52.980 When you're over 300, is it really that much of a connection?

00:50:56.720 It is.

00:50:57.020 How do you know?

00:50:57.800 Honestly, let's be honest.

00:50:59.520 Let's be honest.

00:51:00.060 Okay.

00:51:00.260 Let's just keep it real.

00:51:01.220 Cause that's what I like to do.

00:51:02.480 Um, like a good half of them were probably just one night, like after party out of convenience

00:51:09.820 situations.

00:51:10.580 And then maybe a good, maybe a good, like select small portion of that was actual genuine,

00:51:19.800 like connection and intimacy.

00:51:21.460 But, um, the men's selection here in Santa Barbara and in LA is awful.

00:51:26.740 So not much to work with.

00:51:31.280 Would you went to UCSB, correct?

00:51:34.160 Yes.

00:51:34.500 Were you in a sorority?

00:51:35.480 No, absolutely not.

00:51:37.180 Okay.

00:51:37.720 Why do I give off that energy?

00:51:38.900 No, I'm just curious.

00:51:39.860 So you went to UCSB all four years, correct?

00:51:43.340 No, City College.

00:51:44.160 And then SBCC, then UCSB.

00:51:46.260 And then I actually went to beauty school as well.

00:51:48.340 Went to beauty school.

00:51:48.880 Yeah.

00:51:49.380 Hair or cosmetics?

00:51:51.560 Okay.

00:51:52.380 And did you, and so when did you graduate?

00:51:57.120 How old were you?

00:51:57.580 21, 22?

00:51:58.520 I was 22 is 2017.

00:52:02.080 Okay.

00:52:02.480 2017.

00:52:03.100 You were 22.

00:52:03.760 That's when you graduated.

00:52:04.600 Yeah.

00:52:05.120 By the time you graduated, do you know how your body count by that point?

00:52:09.500 Oh gosh, at least 200.

00:52:11.180 Oh, 200.

00:52:11.760 So you'd say most of the partners that you've had was before you graduated.

00:52:19.360 Yeah.

00:52:20.160 I actually, I'm in recovery from substances.

00:52:24.360 So a lot of that was during the years that I was in active addiction, which was something

00:52:30.080 that, yeah, you can touch on another time.

00:52:33.240 But a lot of that was because I was actively using and was, you know, trying to fill a void

00:52:37.900 that was non-existent.

00:52:39.260 So, and was that, uh, was it alcohol?

00:52:42.480 I don't know if you want to share alcohol.

00:52:44.140 I mean, am I allowed to share?

00:52:45.660 Yeah.

00:52:46.120 Okay.

00:52:46.500 Yeah.

00:52:46.640 Yeah.

00:52:46.780 Yeah.

00:52:46.900 Yeah.

00:52:46.980 Um, no, it was Xanax.

00:52:48.940 And then, um, because of the Xanax, I was doing some skiing, um, cocaine.

00:52:54.500 Oh, okay.

00:52:54.940 I thought you were actually, um, no, no, no, no, no, because of that, I was doing something

00:53:04.240 a little bit harder to counteract both of those things, but Xanax was really the catalyst

00:53:07.860 for my addiction.

00:53:09.660 Methamphetamine?

00:53:10.660 No.

00:53:11.660 What, what's harder?

00:53:12.760 Uh, heroin?

00:53:14.080 Oh, shit.

00:53:14.740 Okay.

00:53:15.040 Got it down.

00:53:16.300 Okay.

00:53:16.900 Almost five years clean though.

00:53:18.720 Oh my God.

00:53:19.340 Okay.

00:53:19.520 So you've been five, five, sober five years.

00:53:21.620 I will be, uh, this year.

00:53:23.620 Okay.

00:53:23.980 Congratulations.

00:53:24.260 When you said skiing, I thought you'd get along with Eric because he also gets, uh,

00:53:28.760 I mean, liquored up on the slopes.

00:53:30.460 I'm kidding.

00:53:31.020 Oh, that is a fun time.

00:53:32.500 I just did that last weekend.

00:53:33.380 Oh, there you go.

00:53:35.000 There you go.

00:53:35.920 Yeah.

00:53:36.160 Get the pal.

00:53:36.960 No, the college kind of skiing.

00:53:39.100 Okay.

00:53:39.460 Gotcha.

00:53:39.980 Gotcha.

00:53:40.300 Gotcha.

00:53:40.960 Okay.

00:53:41.320 You must, you must have, uh, you must have had quite a, quite a fun time here.

00:53:46.320 I've got quite, I've got some stories.

00:53:48.240 I believe it.

00:53:48.720 That's for sure.

00:53:48.860 Okay.

00:53:49.060 So, uh, between two and 300 closer to 300 sexual partners.

00:53:53.480 Yeah.

00:53:53.800 Okay.

00:53:54.140 Yeah.

00:53:54.760 Uh, do you want to share your, I'm going to be honest with you.

00:53:57.420 I have never counted.

00:53:59.160 Um, I, yeah, I don't know.

00:54:02.100 I've never really counted.

00:54:02.880 But I, I mean, I, I don't, I know.

00:54:05.960 I, I honestly don't even know, but I would probably say that most of it occurred between

00:54:10.260 like after I broke up with my really awful boyfriend and like the end of like, like COVID

00:54:17.940 times.

00:54:18.880 Um, do you want to maybe sit like, um, between 2030, 30, 40?

00:54:24.580 I don't know.

00:54:24.940 Something like that.

00:54:25.580 I mean, I don't know.

00:54:26.600 I, I genuinely, I genuinely.

00:54:28.100 Over a hundred?

00:54:28.840 No, no, no, no.

00:54:29.680 Over 50?

00:54:31.340 Probably not.

00:54:32.240 Okay.

00:54:32.480 I genuinely.

00:54:32.920 People usually stop counting around like 40 or 50.

00:54:36.100 I've never counted though.

00:54:38.520 I'm just telling you this.

00:54:39.700 Well, that's, that's a cool statistic then.

00:54:41.760 Um, I've just never counted personally.

00:54:43.360 That's actually so true.

00:54:44.380 I almost stopped counting at 40, but I was like, I want to see how high this list goes,

00:54:48.100 baby.

00:54:48.360 Let's keep racking points.

00:54:51.920 It's just XP points.

00:54:53.400 Add it to your resume.

00:54:54.360 Repeat yours again.

00:54:55.260 You said it's.

00:54:55.780 I stopped counting at 254.

00:54:58.580 And you think it's close to 300?

00:54:59.980 Not 255?

00:55:00.860 No, 254.

00:55:01.980 Okay.

00:55:02.520 Even number.

00:55:03.280 So your, your body count is.

00:55:04.760 So it's probably closer.

00:55:05.860 I said, I think the estimate was probably now around like 290.

00:55:09.380 I'm going to have to guess.

00:55:10.600 So that's like a, like a guesstimate.

00:55:12.820 Okay.

00:55:13.220 I haven't, I don't.

00:55:14.560 Yeah.

00:55:14.800 I'm just going to say 290 ish.

00:55:16.360 290 super chatted $49 and 99 cents.

00:55:20.360 Women's lack of accountability and foresight here clearly shows they don't think about

00:55:24.260 how their actions will affect their future, but expect men who have not only thought of

00:55:28.580 the future, but also planned for it.

00:55:31.180 You want to know what actions affect, you know how this, my actions will affect my future.

00:55:37.760 I give the craziest brain ever and you're never going to get to experience it, bro.

00:55:42.520 Think about that.

00:55:43.280 I will say my, wait, okay.

00:55:47.000 Get it, get it.

00:55:48.180 No, I'm so for real.

00:55:49.260 Are you kidding me?

00:55:50.040 How do you expect a girl to be good in bed if she doesn't get practice?

00:55:52.880 Same thing goes with men.

00:55:54.120 I'm just going to keep it real.

00:55:55.480 If you guys are complaining about girls who don't know how to give brain, but you also

00:55:58.860 like shame them for having like, you know, partners, then you're shooting yourself in

00:56:04.040 the foot.

00:56:04.300 You know you could be good in a relationship, right?

00:56:06.820 Of course.

00:56:07.680 And I'm, but here's the thing.

00:56:08.720 I'm not saying that as a woman or as a person that you need to have a ton of partners in

00:56:15.080 order to get better at something.

00:56:16.980 But I'm just saying that either way, it doesn't matter.

00:56:19.840 Like you shouldn't shame one person for getting good at something, doing it this way as opposed

00:56:24.900 to that way.

00:56:25.440 That's literally all I'm saying.

00:56:26.660 Can I also interject and say that, um, you know, maybe the relationship doesn't give

00:56:32.520 that to you.

00:56:33.320 You know what?

00:56:34.160 Um, just because it's related, we do have a video that's related to what you just said.

00:56:38.840 Okay.

00:56:39.540 Okay.

00:56:40.080 Eric, can you pull up the, uh, it's the, uh, the Tate sex.

00:56:45.920 Oh God.

00:56:46.560 Oh no.

00:56:47.020 Oh no.

00:56:48.060 What?

00:56:49.100 Andrew Tate.

00:56:49.820 Oh.

00:56:50.240 Ew.

00:56:50.720 I know.

00:56:51.240 Isn't he in jail?

00:56:52.080 Honestly, that's perfect.

00:56:53.200 Um, just for, let's just let it play ladies, sexual abuse, let's just let it play ladies.

00:56:58.740 Go ahead.

00:56:59.720 Sex, sex, this position, that position.

00:57:02.960 Don't you feel like you get to a point in your life where there's something more than

00:57:05.020 that shit?

00:57:05.860 Don't you feel like, and maybe I'm going to sound like a romantic.

00:57:08.300 Don't you feel like you get to a position in your life where you'd rather have a girl

00:57:10.740 who you truly love and she truly loves you and it doesn't matter what she does because

00:57:14.080 you know she really loves you and she's trying her best.

00:57:15.940 Where are those hats?

00:57:17.040 I know, I know she's shaking her head.

00:57:19.380 I know she's shaking her head.

00:57:20.760 But I'm serious.

00:57:21.560 I'm serious.

00:57:22.120 If you sleep with enough women, just like if you sleep with enough men, there's no fucking

00:57:26.400 move.

00:57:27.120 Sex is not a complicated operation, right?

00:57:29.440 There's no move that's going to be like, wow, I've never seen this before.

00:57:32.860 I've never seen this before and my mind is blown.

00:57:35.500 No, no.

00:57:36.700 If you think the way you keep a man happy is to move your pussy in a particular way on

00:57:40.040 top of his dick, as opposed to behave in a way which is respectful to him out in the

00:57:44.340 real world and for him to know he has you and your loyalty regardless of what's going

00:57:48.820 to come up, all the problems he's going to come into in his life, then you're wrong.

00:57:51.920 So the whole point of sex is a connection between two people.

00:57:55.580 And I think having a genuine connection between two people is worth more than the sex.

00:57:58.620 So her question was, what can a woman do to truly blow your mind in the bedroom?

00:58:02.960 You'll blow my mind outside of the bedroom in a relationship as a whole.

00:58:07.020 That wasn't the question.

00:58:08.400 That's the truth.

00:58:09.280 Wouldn't you rather have a girlfriend who truly loves you, is absolutely loyal to you,

00:58:13.140 like no matter what happens, she's going to be there for you.

00:58:15.060 You can catch a case six months.

00:58:16.380 She's outside waiting for you.

00:58:18.100 She, she, okay, she can't take dick, right?

00:58:20.700 Whatever.

00:58:21.060 But she tries her very, very best, the poor, the poor thing.

00:58:23.980 And she wants to satisfy you and you know, you know, she cares about you.

00:58:29.300 Wouldn't you be like, well, I don't care that she can't take dick because that's actually

00:58:32.100 a quality woman, which is rare in the world today.

00:58:34.340 But I am genuinely uninterested in sleeping with a woman who I don't have a connection with.

00:58:38.480 If a girl said to me, I don't love you at all.

00:58:40.500 I don't feel anything for you at all.

00:58:42.380 I don't want to sleep with you, but I will.

00:58:44.980 I would say no.

00:58:46.640 The sex act in and of itself is, is, is okay.

00:58:49.780 We've all, if you had sex, we've all had sex, right?

00:58:51.840 Do you really need to fuck somebody who doesn't give a shit about you at all?

00:58:54.900 We live in a world now, right?

00:58:56.000 Where we have a lot of narratives which are being broken down and destroyed in real time.

00:58:59.100 And I think it's very, very healthy for men and women to look at sex as an act that

00:59:04.780 happens between people who at least like each other.

00:59:07.400 The idea that I don't like them at all, but as long as they can suck dick this way,

00:59:12.000 then it's okay.

00:59:12.960 I don't give a fuck, right?

00:59:14.140 If a girl genuinely loves me with all her heart and gives me a fucking terrible blowjob,

00:59:18.480 I'm still going to be like, well, you love me.

00:59:19.980 I love you.

00:59:20.480 It is what it is.

00:59:21.140 It's more, life's more important than blowjobs and fucking blowing your nose.

00:59:24.220 Sorry, but what if it's not love?

00:59:24.700 This is the truth.

00:59:25.880 And if it's not love, this is, if it's not love, let me tell you something.

00:59:29.200 Women are the gatekeepers, not men.

00:59:31.200 If it's not love, you shouldn't be fucking him anyway.

00:59:33.740 This is the reality of the world.

00:59:35.160 Just as the modern world told you different, you shouldn't be fucking any man you don't love.

00:59:38.660 That's the first fucking thing.

00:59:39.600 Okay, relax.

00:59:39.920 You shouldn't be safe with him.

00:59:40.800 No, but it's true.

00:59:41.640 No, you're right.

00:59:42.140 You're right.

00:59:42.620 Because the, no, no, no, no.

00:59:44.380 Because the intimate, whatever the, however you say, intimate, whatever is not there,

00:59:49.020 you will feel it.

00:59:50.400 Sex.

00:59:51.940 Okay.

00:59:52.980 Do you want to give, by the way, that's from the Fresh and Fit podcast.

00:59:55.980 Shout out to them.

00:59:56.280 Yes.

00:59:56.700 So that kind of, is someone in response?

00:59:59.280 Do you want to respond?

01:00:00.240 I'm going to say something.

01:00:01.400 I don't necessarily.

01:00:01.960 Wait, actually one thing really quick.

01:00:03.380 I 100% agree with Andrew Tate.

01:00:06.820 If my girlfriend, if she loves me, but she doesn't, she's not that good at giving head.

01:00:13.200 I love her.

01:00:14.180 She loves me.

01:00:15.140 She's trying her best.

01:00:16.260 I 100% agree with what he says.

01:00:17.720 Go ahead.

01:00:18.020 And here's the thing.

01:00:18.760 I don't actually disagree with him.

01:00:20.540 I don't actually disagree with him.

01:00:22.580 But I think that where a problem, where the problematic stature of what he's saying is

01:00:29.300 that that's the only way to think.

01:00:31.040 That is where the problems start.

01:00:33.280 I don't disagree with him.

01:00:34.540 I think that's actually a really lovely sentiment if that's how you want to live your life.

01:00:38.960 But let people live life the way they want to.

01:00:41.980 It doesn't really have to mean that you're wrong.

01:00:45.240 They're just choosing to live life a different way.

01:00:47.660 And you know what?

01:00:49.360 There are some people that will maybe have intercourse with other people that they don't

01:00:55.000 like, and that's on them.

01:00:56.140 They'll grow out of it, whatever.

01:00:57.680 But you won't really know what you want and how you want it until you experiment.

01:01:04.300 I would love to ask Andrew Tate, how many people has he connected with in that way?

01:01:09.740 How many experiences has he had with women that he doesn't talk about that has led up to

01:01:16.020 his point of thinking?

01:01:17.660 And that's what it is, right?

01:01:19.220 I don't disagree.

01:01:20.300 I just think that there are other ways to function as a person.

01:01:22.940 I would like to say also that I think in a lot of ways, there are many times that Andrew

01:01:29.540 Tate does a disservice to men.

01:01:31.560 I think in him saying that women are the gatekeepers.

01:01:34.480 I mean, if you want to see it that way, I understand the reality of the world that there

01:01:38.900 are generally more men.

01:01:40.780 Does anyone hear that noise?

01:01:42.280 The squeaking.

01:01:42.960 Is it from one of the chairs?

01:01:44.860 I don't know.

01:01:45.280 It might be.

01:01:46.280 But does it?

01:01:46.900 I heard it.

01:01:47.540 I am hearing it.

01:01:48.200 I just heard it right now.

01:01:49.420 Yeah, I heard it at the beginning of the stream.

01:01:51.740 Yeah.

01:01:52.260 I don't know if we might be able to replace one of the chairs.

01:01:55.320 I don't.

01:01:55.760 It might be yours.

01:01:57.420 Why don't you finish with your piece?

01:01:59.660 And then I'm going to have Eric swap your chairs out or something.

01:02:02.820 Yeah.

01:02:03.280 Yeah.

01:02:03.600 So go ahead.

01:02:04.160 You said.

01:02:04.480 Did you guys hear that?

01:02:06.900 What was he saying?

01:02:07.800 I think maybe it is your chair.

01:02:08.960 It is.

01:02:09.520 Yeah.

01:02:09.840 When you lean forward.

01:02:11.380 Oh, it is.

01:02:12.780 Yeah.

01:02:13.060 Yeah.

01:02:13.300 We're going to have Eric swap out the chair.

01:02:16.160 Okay.

01:02:16.560 Actually, yeah.

01:02:17.480 Why don't we just do it now?

01:02:18.580 But I'm remembering where you left off.

01:02:20.880 Sure.

01:02:21.020 You were on the gatekeeper component.

01:02:23.540 So just hold that thought.

01:02:24.840 Absolutely.

01:02:25.140 And while we do that, we'll come back to that really quick.

01:02:29.120 You were talking about, or we were doing body count.

01:02:31.520 Did you?

01:02:32.140 I have not, no.

01:02:33.260 Can you share that really quick?

01:02:34.300 Yeah.

01:02:34.820 Mine's, I just reached 20.

01:02:37.060 Just reached.

01:02:37.880 Yay.

01:02:38.120 Oh, okay.

01:02:39.280 All right.

01:02:40.180 Not like it's like a big.

01:02:41.260 This is the downfall of society.

01:02:42.040 No.

01:02:42.740 Brian, calm down.

01:02:44.160 Okay.

01:02:44.660 Listen.

01:02:44.860 I'm not like praising it.

01:02:45.980 Okay.

01:02:46.000 Hold on.

01:02:46.400 Hold on.

01:02:46.720 Hold on.

01:02:48.240 Hold on.

01:02:48.580 Hold on.

01:02:48.760 She just got laid in an after her relationship situation.

01:02:51.860 That's also great.

01:02:52.380 Also, it was just more of like, I meant I reached 20 because I have a 20 body count, but

01:02:57.940 I'm not like, there's no praise.

01:03:00.540 There's no like disgrace.

01:03:01.380 All of y'all were like, yay.

01:03:02.660 Well, because as a woman, we're supporting a woman, like doing her thing.

01:03:06.980 It's not like a, oh yeah, you went.

01:03:08.360 Shouldn't you guys be supporting her being like a three body count?

01:03:11.420 I was speaking.

01:03:11.820 I don't know who she is.

01:03:12.200 Yeah.

01:03:12.500 100% I would support if somebody was in a three body count.

01:03:14.520 Either way.

01:03:14.940 It's not us being like, yo, you got 20, 20 bodies under you.

01:03:18.620 Round of applause.

01:03:19.320 It's, Hey girl, good for you.

01:03:20.800 You're doing what you want to do.

01:03:21.980 And you're like, you're feeling yourself.

01:03:24.200 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait after your relationship

01:03:26.500 that wasn't healthy.

01:03:27.860 I am going to say she could have said two and we all would have been.

01:03:30.880 That's correct.

01:03:31.260 Yeah.

01:03:31.780 Absolutely.

01:03:32.260 It doesn't matter what number.

01:03:33.360 It's just like, good for her that she's getting that experience.

01:03:35.580 I'm not sure if you should really, look, people are free to do whatever they want.

01:03:39.860 I don't know if you should be clapping.

01:03:41.480 Women celebrate women.

01:03:42.880 It's not about celebrating women.

01:03:43.420 I'm going to clap when you guys share your body count.

01:03:46.140 Yeah.

01:03:46.240 Yeah.

01:03:47.620 Also, I will say that she did like start her, you know, she did foremention that she hasn't

01:03:54.740 had a lot of experience and that she was just starting to.

01:03:57.060 So like, good for her.

01:03:58.320 Whether it be three, whether it be three, whether it be 20.

01:04:01.340 We're at a panel where everybody has like above 20, right?

01:04:04.660 Like, I mean, technically, yeah, it's hers.

01:04:07.200 I'm sure there are people who have three and good for them living their life, enjoying

01:04:11.180 it.

01:04:11.600 I mean, mine also might be 19.

01:04:13.220 I'm not sure if I have to like, I counted very fast off of the top of my head, but still

01:04:18.940 like it's about 20.

01:04:20.700 What's your body count, including the ones that you didn't tell your friends?

01:04:24.240 No, I've told, I'm pretty honest about all of my sexual.

01:04:27.760 I'm just a pretty honest person when it comes in general.

01:04:30.560 I'm not.

01:04:31.520 Every woman I met in my life is going to cap about that shit.

01:04:34.140 No, I'm counting every person, even the ones I regret to this day.

01:04:38.780 The ones that I'm like, uh, did I really need to do that?

01:04:41.500 No, probably not.

01:04:42.600 Congratulations.

01:04:43.220 Today is the day in your life that you've met a woman that's not lying about it.

01:04:46.240 Well, I still don't believe it.

01:04:47.460 That's cool.

01:04:47.960 No, no, that's literally it.

01:04:49.780 Why?

01:04:50.260 It is what it is.

01:04:50.980 I can tell you the time.

01:04:52.380 I'm like, I know the names, but I'll tell you each time if you really want to know.

01:04:56.140 I've never known a man to not cap about his body count.

01:05:02.460 Multiply it by three.

01:05:03.500 It's usually.

01:05:04.480 Multiply it by three.

01:05:06.220 And I can't do math, so yeah.

01:05:07.720 Did you fuckers learn anything at college?

01:05:10.320 No.

01:05:11.480 What the fuck?

01:05:12.160 Also, I am sensing a bit of a contradiction here.

01:05:15.320 Why do you think that she's lying about having such a low body count in your eyes?

01:05:21.620 A low body count?

01:05:23.120 Okay.

01:05:23.580 I'm saying.

01:05:24.020 Okay, no, wait, hold on.

01:05:24.840 Listen, listen.

01:05:25.460 In comparison, I said I stopped counting at 254, so I'm like around 300.

01:05:30.400 And I know in your brain, you're like, whoa, that's really high.

01:05:33.520 So in comparison.

01:05:34.380 Well, you said that you're a sex worker.

01:05:37.300 Yeah.

01:05:37.760 So I'm not really surprised about that.

01:05:40.000 Okay, well, regardless, you know, what I'm saying is, like, in comparison, why are you kind of weirded out that she said 20 when, in comparison, that is a lower number to the rest of us?

01:05:52.420 And why would you think that she's lying?

01:05:54.180 There are people out there that, dude, I have so many guys who are still virgins.

01:05:58.340 There are people out there who don't have one.

01:05:59.840 Yeah, because that's the reality.

01:06:00.920 I also know women who are still virgins, and they haven't had a single one.

01:06:05.400 And you know what?

01:06:06.300 When they tell me they have a connection like that with somebody for the first time, I'm going to be so happy for them.

01:06:12.040 And maybe that's the only person they're going to be with for the rest of their life.

01:06:16.860 But why does it matter?

01:06:18.800 Why are you capping everything?

01:06:20.000 Yeah, why do you think it's capped?

01:06:21.160 Where did you get your certifications?

01:06:22.060 Why is everything a lie to you?

01:06:25.000 Well, I deal with a lot of women on a daily basis.

01:06:28.560 So I see the capped.

01:06:29.560 Oh, so are you educated in women?

01:06:31.720 What?

01:06:32.220 Are you educated in women?

01:06:33.260 Well, he's a dating coach.

01:06:34.060 Yeah, I'm a dating coach.

01:06:35.680 I mean, yeah, but like, making an assumption about all women is just kind of like BS that you think we all lie.

01:06:40.600 Because you guys have a direct incentive to lower that mind.

01:06:44.240 So do you want to ask me a question then to verify that I'm not lying?

01:06:47.220 Like I said, I'm a very open book.

01:06:48.740 I'm very honest.

01:06:49.880 And I'm honest with my partners who I do end up choosing to have sex with, you know?

01:06:54.620 And I'm honest with them when it comes to like, if they ask me that question, I'm going to be honest about it.

01:06:59.280 Do you go to UCSB?

01:07:00.600 Yes, I go to UCSB.

01:07:01.640 Then I think it's at least like 35.

01:07:04.060 So I came, just to give you a little background, I told you I'm from Northern Cal.

01:07:09.240 I went and was like a dance major for three years.

01:07:12.080 Didn't come to SBCC.

01:07:14.020 Didn't even move to the Santa Barbara area until I was about 20, 20 years old.

01:07:17.600 And then I got into a serious relationship for four and a half years, right as I moved here, two months in.

01:07:22.960 And I dated that person very seriously.

01:07:25.400 Sentience super chatted $100.

01:07:28.180 As a woman, you're supporting a woman.

01:07:30.520 That's like five minutes ago.

01:07:32.080 And a woman reaches five plus body count.

01:07:34.680 They have impaired pair bonding, which has shown 80% plus unhappiness in marriage leading to divorce.

01:07:40.300 These three under fours are doing more.

01:07:42.760 Oh, hold up.

01:07:47.200 Anyway, that's a lot of education for somebody who doesn't know what they're talking about.

01:07:50.600 I would like to see that study.

01:07:52.140 As somebody who actually has a biology background.

01:07:54.680 Let me just read the rest.

01:07:56.520 Okay.

01:07:56.880 In marriage leading to divorce, these three of fours are doing more of a disservice for women than Andrew is for men.

01:08:02.020 At least you can admit Andrew Tate's doing a disservice to men.

01:08:04.660 I don't know about that.

01:08:05.600 As somebody who has a background in science and education, I would like to say that studies are based off of the generation that is married and divorced now and not us.

01:08:19.040 Wait, which studies?

01:08:20.100 The study that they're referring to, clearly.

01:08:21.680 Which?

01:08:22.140 They were saying that studies said.

01:08:23.560 He said a psychological study.

01:08:25.300 Psychological studies said.

01:08:26.220 So that women that have a five plus body count.

01:08:28.180 When you refer to a study, you're referring to people who are already married and already divorced.

01:08:32.840 I would say that they experienced a significantly different dating, relationship, pool, sex, everything.

01:08:42.020 I would say that their whole experience with sex, dating, and relationships is totally generationally.

01:08:45.940 So wait, just to clarify one thing.

01:08:47.280 So you're saying that the psychological experiments and studies that they've done, because it's an older age cohort.

01:08:53.920 I'm saying that the generation is different.

01:08:55.680 Hold on, let me just finish.

01:08:56.300 It doesn't apply?

01:08:57.240 No, I'm not saying it doesn't apply.

01:08:58.180 I'm just saying that the generation is different.

01:09:00.460 And so to compare it exactly is just not correct.

01:09:02.720 Well, I mean, what I would gather, though, from it is that it's suggesting that a high body count leads to an inability to pair bond.

01:09:12.620 And it's higher likelihood of divorce.

01:09:14.660 Totally.

01:09:15.100 And reporting relationship.

01:09:16.220 Hold on.

01:09:17.600 Reporting relationship dissatisfaction.

01:09:19.580 I would say that if you're saying, oh, that only applies to older women, these younger women who are sleeping with 400 men are much more capable of commitment.

01:09:29.680 No, no, no.

01:09:30.000 I would actually say that this younger generation of women is the least capable of commitment.

01:09:36.140 But go ahead.

01:09:36.440 Well, so that's what I'm saying.

01:09:37.520 I'm saying that, like, our generation is just so different.

01:09:40.640 I'm not saying, like, women of, you know, the generation that was studied had, you know, more or less.

01:09:46.640 Or I don't know the amount of sex that they had.

01:09:48.320 But what I'm saying anecdotally is that you cannot compare a generation.

01:09:52.300 Did you just say ant dick?

01:09:54.260 Anticdotally.

01:09:55.140 I will have you know that he's 6'5".

01:09:58.660 6'4".

01:09:59.080 There's no way he's gotten, he's got one of those.

01:10:01.440 That would be a real bummer.

01:10:02.780 How dare you.

01:10:03.820 How dare you.

01:10:05.300 That was a reach of a joke, but I'll give it to you.

01:10:08.320 Yeah, hold on.

01:10:09.040 Let me.

01:10:09.360 You need a little knee slather.

01:10:11.240 Yep, thank you.

01:10:11.560 Okay, all right.

01:10:12.320 Air horns.

01:10:13.320 So, okay.

01:10:14.160 So, I think what I'm saying really is that, like, the marriage and divorce rates of a generation that's already married and divorced,

01:10:21.080 there's a lot of other outside factors that indicate relationships.

01:10:24.620 Like, I mean, if you look at marriage and divorce rates, they're already 50%, right?

01:10:27.720 But also, if you think about the way, and I actually wanted to talk about this earlier, and I didn't really get to,

01:10:33.880 but I think the reason that women are out having sex with a bunch of dudes and out getting married later and staying single longer,

01:10:41.500 and also, by the way, men, the demographic of 18 to 25 are having, like, the least amount of sex.

01:10:47.160 Yeah.

01:10:47.480 There's an actual study.

01:10:48.960 Like, I've read it.

01:10:49.860 Yep.

01:10:50.040 And I think the reason is because women are dissatisfied with the way that they feel relationships have gone.

01:10:56.960 They watched their mothers divorce their fathers.

01:10:59.540 They watched their fathers divorce their mothers.

01:11:02.000 They watched people get cheat on.

01:11:03.340 I know so many people who come from broken marriages that do not trust the marriage system because it had failed them.

01:11:11.260 You can shake your head, but I'm just saying, like, from what our generation witnessed with the marriage and divorce rates,

01:11:17.200 regardless of what women were doing, by the way, they were getting married a lot earlier, so their body count was different,

01:11:22.280 and the societal expectations were significantly different for women, too.

01:11:27.060 And so I'm just saying that the people who were studied in that study is not the same from us.

01:11:32.300 That's the only thing.

01:11:33.120 I'm not saying that we're not, that it may not be the same.

01:11:36.760 I'm just saying that, anecdotally, you can't compare them.

01:11:39.420 I also think we need to think about correlation is not causation.

01:11:42.220 That's correct.

01:11:42.540 That's, like, the number one thing that we talk about in science a lot is correlation does not equal causation.

01:11:48.240 There are correlations of things, so that might be that psychology study that he referenced.

01:11:53.180 There could have been a correlation that these women who have...

01:11:55.220 Devon Jackson super chatted $50.

01:11:57.940 It's worse now you all convince yourselves.

01:12:00.020 You even don't want men or children at all now, so obviously the more bodies you have,

01:12:03.980 I don't think that's what's being said.

01:12:05.460 The more likely couples are to break up.

01:12:07.320 Okay.

01:12:08.160 I don't want kids.

01:12:09.220 So, but you're saying there's not a correlation.

01:12:11.980 I'm saying that correlation is not causation.

01:12:15.860 So, the body count does not mean that because they have a high body count,

01:12:19.900 that means it causes them to be dissatisfied or be less bonding.

01:12:25.160 I think that the people that they might have seen, that could be a correlative thing.

01:12:28.720 That could be that because they have a higher body count,

01:12:31.760 that correlates to maybe they aren't bonding as intimately with other people.

01:12:37.120 But that also is that one study.

01:12:39.200 There's so many other studies that can contradict that one thing that psychology states,

01:12:44.140 you know, as they're saying, because that's just how it is most of the time.

01:12:48.480 But also, how do you isolate the control group in that experiment, genuinely?

01:12:51.440 How are you able to say, oh, this person only slept with one person,

01:12:54.680 but they have a happy marriage, and this woman slept with seven people before they got married,

01:12:59.300 but they have a really unhappy marriage?

01:13:00.840 What if person A, but there's so many other factors to the relationship, I'm just saying.

01:13:07.120 There's been numerous studies, though, on premarital sexual partners having a negative impact on marriage.

01:13:16.240 I'm aware of that.

01:13:16.840 There's a greater likelihood of infidelity,

01:13:19.080 there's a greater likelihood of reporting relationship and marriage dissatisfaction,

01:13:22.840 and there's a higher incidence of divorce.

01:13:25.080 Let's go for it.

01:13:34.420 Let's make it more.

01:13:41.360 Oh, can we finish?

01:13:43.800 I want to read that, yeah.

01:13:45.260 Being in medicine, I'm sure I've read more studies than you.

01:13:50.260 Bitch, I'm in medicine.

01:13:51.580 I literally work in medicine.

01:13:53.300 I study science and I work in medicine.

01:13:54.500 I'll have you know that Zentience is a brain surgeon.

01:13:59.440 FYI.

01:14:00.020 That's great.

01:14:00.840 That's really wonderful.

01:14:02.120 He knows.

01:14:03.060 He's a neurosurgeon.

01:14:03.920 Then he should know correlation is not causation.

01:14:05.840 Yeah, thank you.

01:14:06.440 He should also respect that correlation is not causation.

01:14:09.700 It doesn't mean that we're like, you know.

01:14:12.420 Invest in cat food, guys.

01:14:14.140 And also, it's like, they're already, everything is being, women are like, for years,

01:14:19.980 everything has been a financial gain from women.

01:14:22.020 Like, you exploit women.

01:14:23.360 It's just constantly, there's always something with women.

01:14:25.780 Like, OnlyFans, we've taken it into our own hands and wanted to do it ourselves because

01:14:30.320 we've got tired of men doing it for us.

01:14:32.480 And even that platform is sketchy in itself.

01:14:34.540 How are men exploiting women?

01:14:36.600 Specifically in regard to women's sexuality.

01:14:38.640 No, I just want to hear, like, two examples.

01:14:41.140 Wait, but okay, hold on.

01:14:42.160 We've, we're, like, the conversational threads are just all over the place.

01:14:46.180 We were watching a Tate video.

01:14:47.980 Yes.

01:14:49.340 I mean, like, we, we've derailed the conversation.

01:14:52.340 We can come back to some of these topics and have to do super chats.

01:14:55.040 So really quick, let's finish the reaction to the Tate video.

01:14:57.800 Okay.

01:14:58.000 You wanted to say something about, can you remind me what it was about?

01:15:01.980 Oh, women are gatekeepers.

01:15:03.480 Women are gatekeepers.

01:15:04.380 Yes.

01:15:04.480 What did you want to say about that?

01:15:05.800 Well, I, I wanted to say that I, I think Andrew Tate does a disservice to men in a lot

01:15:10.520 of ways.

01:15:12.060 And specifically in the regard to when he mentioned that women tend to be the gatekeepers.

01:15:17.180 I mean, whether or not you want to see that as the reality, I don't think it's fair for

01:15:20.780 men to say that all the responsibility and the control is in the hands of women.

01:15:27.120 I just don't think it's fair.

01:15:28.820 I think.

01:15:29.700 Practically speaking, women are the gatekeepers of sex.

01:15:32.580 Of sex.

01:15:33.260 I don't think women are the gatekeepers of relationships as Andrew Tate was referencing

01:15:37.580 of that sentiment.

01:15:38.380 No, but he was, he was talking about sex.

01:15:39.680 He was also talking about his.

01:15:40.760 Devon Jackson super chatted $50.

01:15:42.840 Let's make it more in regards to single women'sness of one that's trying to argue higher body count

01:15:47.600 is better for relationships.

01:15:49.240 I don't think it's necessarily better.

01:15:51.180 I think that everyone just has their personal preference.

01:15:53.760 And we are all now diverging from the traditional, you know, have a couple dates and then go steady

01:16:03.200 or whatever they used to call it.

01:16:05.260 And I just, I think we're diverting from the traditional ways of relationship.

01:16:08.740 I would also like to say that domestic violence rates were so high, so high, even 20 years ago, you know?

01:16:17.340 So like, I don't necessarily think it's a bad thing to experience another person, not just sexually, but romantically as well.

01:16:23.620 What are you trying to say about domestic violence?

01:16:25.640 Being stuck in a marriage is so much more unhealthy than sleeping with a bunch of people.

01:16:29.940 So the statistic mentioned that women reported being unhappy in marriage and it leading to divorce.

01:16:37.200 And I guess what Val was just trying to say that, like, including that statistic, domestic violence was also statistically much higher.

01:16:45.400 So you can't just say that the reason why.

01:16:47.900 And do you think that that's men's fault?

01:16:50.060 Nobody said that.

01:16:50.520 Yeah, I mean, it could be a woman's.

01:16:51.740 Who knows?

01:16:52.200 You know, things, you never know what happens behind closed doors.

01:16:55.820 All right, let me ask you guys a question.

01:16:58.440 Domestic violence is not particularly my, I've not done a significant amount of research in it, but I've done a little bit.

01:17:07.860 And a statistic that interests me is that non-reciprocal domestic violence is actually equal between men and women.

01:17:17.040 But domestic violence is highest amongst lesbian couples.

01:17:22.660 It's lowest amongst gay couples.

01:17:25.060 So how do you explain then that it's domestic violence is men's fault yet in lesbian?

01:17:30.880 I never said that.

01:17:31.160 Hold on, hold on.

01:17:32.760 Let me finish.

01:17:33.500 Okay.

01:17:33.640 Then how do you explain then that if it's men, something innate within men.

01:17:39.060 Oops.

01:17:39.700 I never said it was innate within men.

01:17:41.200 Hold on.

01:17:41.620 No, but you said domestic violence is men's fault.

01:17:45.300 The man.

01:17:46.540 The man who's causing the violence is his fault.

01:17:48.760 Women perpetuate domestic violence at the same rate as men do.

01:17:52.940 Oh, no, I know.

01:17:53.660 I'm talking about in the situations that we were talking about where women were unhappy in marriages.

01:17:58.740 Yes.

01:17:59.480 I think, okay, so I think.

01:18:00.140 Okay, well, hold on.

01:18:00.920 I think you're, I think it's being misconstrued.

01:18:02.240 Go ahead.

01:18:02.640 Continue.

01:18:02.840 But let me finish my point.

01:18:04.940 People often view domestic violence as men due to women.

01:18:09.000 Oh, no, it's both.

01:18:09.840 We know that.

01:18:10.380 Well, yeah.

01:18:10.720 Well, okay, that's fair.

01:18:11.500 Finish your sentence, yeah.

01:18:12.380 But something that's come out is that in lesbian relationships, amongst those relationships,

01:18:19.100 domestic violence is the highest, and amongst gay men, it's the lowest.

01:18:22.980 So you have two men, right, in a relationship, and two women in a relationship.

01:18:29.360 How do you explain that?

01:18:31.800 I don't think that's what it is.

01:18:32.920 I really don't think that that's what the point is here.

01:18:35.760 I personally have not read any of, like, those particular studies, so I'm not going to touch on it.

01:18:40.560 But what's happening is you're taking the statistic that we mentioned out into a completely different topic.

01:18:48.160 Agreed.

01:18:48.440 And what we were talking about, or I guess what they, you know, these ladies were talking about.

01:18:52.440 What we were originally talking about, well, hold on.

01:18:55.380 What we were originally talking about was women being the gatekeepers of sex, and we've somehow brought it back to.

01:19:01.520 Yeah, I'm very confused.

01:19:02.740 To the marriage dissatisfaction thing.

01:19:05.580 So please continue with the gatekeeper thing.

01:19:09.740 Sure, sure.

01:19:10.760 Oh, my God, we're really bringing it back.

01:19:13.400 Okay.

01:19:14.380 So, yeah, in the sentiment that Andrew Tate was talking about, he was speaking about in a relationship with a woman, even if she's awful sexually, that the connection is more important.

01:19:25.580 That's super chatted $50.

01:19:26.800 Oh, my God.

01:19:27.800 Exploiting women.

01:19:29.000 I've lost any illusion of respect for these 300 force.

01:19:32.720 Okay.

01:19:32.940 In any market, there must be a buyer and a seller.

01:19:35.700 If women didn't objectify themselves, irrespective of the amount of buyers, there would never be market nor object.

01:19:42.520 Pull it up.

01:19:43.860 Never be market nor objectification of women.

01:19:46.980 Really quick, we can circle back to this, but I was working with, I don't, I worked in an industry that showed me a really awful side of men exploiting children and women.

01:20:02.540 Oh, my God.

01:20:03.480 And I'm going to leave it at there.

01:20:04.980 Okay.

01:20:05.760 But.

01:20:06.380 Let's, I want to get to the super chat.

01:20:08.480 Go perform brain surgery.

01:20:10.500 Men.

01:20:12.440 Men are the gatekeepers, please.

01:20:14.720 Oh, gosh.

01:20:15.220 Or, sorry, you think men are the, or women are the gatekeepers.

01:20:18.760 It's not that I think, I, okay.

01:20:21.060 I just think we should back up and that in the context that Tate was saying, he was explaining how connection is more important than sex in his mind, which that's a fantastic sentiment.

01:20:32.180 So, in regard to relationships and connection, he also declared that the women are the gatekeepers.

01:20:40.280 Yes, and you disagree with that?

01:20:41.920 It's not necessarily that I disagree with it.

01:20:43.880 I just don't think it's fair to put the responsibility in the women's, in women's hands in general.

01:20:49.720 I think that essentially lessens the power of men.

01:20:54.060 I think that says, I mean, that's why I say I think it's a disservice to men.

01:20:57.780 I think the connotations behind what he's saying is that men don't have power over their relationships, that women may have power over sex, but if you've already got that connection, he's putting the responsibility in a woman's hands and saying, women are the gatekeepers, they make the decisions.

01:21:15.220 And I just don't think that's fair to men.

01:21:16.700 I think men are deserving of power, and I think that sentiment essentially is removing power from men.

01:21:23.620 Okay, I see what you're saying.

01:21:24.440 So, as far as the relationship thing goes, I think men, a lot of men don't have much power in relationships, but he's talking strictly about sex.

01:21:35.920 Women are the gatekeepers of sex.

01:21:38.800 So, let's remove relationship from this.

01:21:41.780 Strictly speaking about sex, women are the gatekeepers.

01:21:44.520 Well, I would say that that is currently, generally speaking, an unfortunate reality.

01:21:50.960 But I think that sentiment also is to say that men are easy, and I don't think that's fair to say that men are easy.

01:21:58.180 I think it's fair.

01:21:58.760 Whether you think it's true or not.

01:21:59.780 I think it's fair.

01:22:00.120 But isn't that insulting to you?

01:22:02.700 Isn't that insulting to men?

01:22:04.060 That's my point.

01:22:04.740 Like, reality is not insulting to me.

01:22:07.240 Sure.

01:22:07.860 Truth is not.

01:22:08.640 Okay, you're right.

01:22:09.420 And I think it happens to be the case that men are pretty easy.

01:22:15.140 I would like to say, I feel like I've had a partner who was not a very easy man, so to say.

01:22:20.080 Hold on.

01:22:20.740 Easy to, like, to get him into bed?

01:22:23.820 Yeah.

01:22:24.040 Yeah.

01:22:24.220 Like, I've had partners before that take their bodies as very sacrimony, like, take sex very seriously.

01:22:34.180 And they only have sex with people that they tend to get into serious relationships with.

01:22:39.920 It's not like a, oh, this girl just laid on my lap and gave me this opportunity.

01:22:44.440 I'm going to take it.

01:22:45.180 It's more of like, I'm only going to do this because I genuinely see that I'm going to have

01:22:49.360 a relationship with this person.

01:22:51.120 Okay, you go ahead and I'll go ahead.

01:22:52.500 And then I'm, yeah, generally.

01:22:53.960 Usually it comes down to how attractive you are because I'm the same way.

01:22:57.160 I have, like, hella high standards.

01:22:58.620 But, like, if she's a dime, you know what I'm saying?

01:23:02.360 Like, I'll have sex with her straight away.

01:23:04.620 Wait, why are you laughing at that?

01:23:06.040 So it's a very, would you say, very is basically on person's interest and type?

01:23:10.140 I'm sorry.

01:23:10.660 I'm joking.

01:23:11.700 Like, how you're saying how, like, if, like, typically you wouldn't, you know, jump the

01:23:16.260 gun right away.

01:23:17.000 But if you see, like, a bad bitch, you're going to be like, oh, like.

01:23:20.240 But, but, okay, why are you laughing at him saying that he.

01:23:23.020 I'm laughing because he was giving me flack for having genuine connections with people.

01:23:27.700 But then he goes around and says, well, she's a dime piece.

01:23:30.680 And also he's like, well, I consider myself conventionally attractive.

01:23:33.900 So I hold my standards higher than most.

01:23:36.160 And which is great.

01:23:36.820 Because it's the reality.

01:23:37.600 Which is great.

01:23:38.760 However, I mean, the fact that, like, you carry yourself here doesn't mean that somebody

01:23:43.840 who gets laid all the time can carry themselves here, too.

01:23:46.960 What are we even talking about?

01:23:48.480 Okay.

01:23:48.820 I would.

01:23:49.740 Can I.

01:23:50.280 So, okay.

01:23:50.880 Can I add to this really quickly?

01:23:52.160 But, okay.

01:23:52.660 No, no, no.

01:23:52.980 Hold on.

01:23:53.420 So actually add to this or add to the, because I want to finish the Tate thing.

01:23:57.900 Okay.

01:23:58.260 I actually would like to add to both.

01:24:00.740 They're kind of like this.

01:24:01.340 Okay.

01:24:01.360 Start with just the Tate thing.

01:24:02.560 Okay.

01:24:02.900 So I agree heavily with Val.

01:24:05.500 I feel like, I feel like the roles have actually switched generationally.

01:24:11.660 And I feel like men feel very powerless again, like feel very powerless when it comes to having

01:24:19.780 sex with women.

01:24:20.940 And I think it's because of the mental, the general mentality behind it.

01:24:25.400 I feel like a lot of the times men don't view sex as an act of connection.

01:24:34.160 They view it as a conquest.

01:24:36.260 You can disagree or agree.

01:24:38.200 I'm making a very generalized statement.

01:24:41.500 But I do feel like, you know, there's this sense of like a man looks at a woman and he just

01:24:47.120 thinks, oh, I want to fuck her so bad.

01:24:48.760 And also adding to Rack's sentiment, you know, maybe she is really hot and maybe she's really

01:24:57.140 like sexy and totally your type.

01:24:59.540 But what if she is so awful for you?

01:25:01.840 What if she's toxic and brings out the worst in you?

01:25:05.160 I, and see also as someone who grew up very plus size and as a fat girl, you know, I have

01:25:11.980 always had to be the one who initiates with men.

01:25:15.480 Men don't, men rarely come up to me.

01:25:18.220 I'm not a child.

01:25:19.480 I'm so serious.

01:25:20.600 I'm so serious.

01:25:21.640 You have to initiate sex?

01:25:23.700 Yes.

01:25:24.180 Okay.

01:25:24.960 Because here's the thing.

01:25:26.260 A lot.

01:25:26.780 No, I'm serious.

01:25:27.560 No, the fat movie is real.

01:25:28.720 It's very true.

01:25:29.140 It's very real.

01:25:29.980 Men look at me.

01:25:30.660 They see that I have a tummy.

01:25:32.060 They, I'm 5'8".

01:25:32.940 I'm a pretty tall woman.

01:25:33.640 Okay, but let me ask you a question.

01:25:34.440 So, okay.

01:25:35.160 You say that yet.

01:25:36.680 You said you've, you said you've had nearly 300 sexual partners.

01:25:39.980 You said 290.

01:25:41.220 Yeah.

01:25:41.980 But, okay.

01:25:42.540 But you can't say if you're, if you've had that.

01:25:45.480 that many partners, 290 or whatever, you can't say that you've had a difficult time.

01:25:50.920 Yes, I can.

01:25:51.420 Getting laid.

01:25:52.080 You don't know my life, Brian.

01:25:53.520 I have had such a hard.

01:25:54.620 You're 23.

01:25:56.320 I'm 21.

01:25:57.240 You're, I thought you said you're 23.

01:25:58.760 No, I said I'm 21.

01:25:59.960 She was 21.

01:26:00.540 Okay, you're, you're 21.

01:26:01.900 Okay, Brian.

01:26:02.320 You've had 290 sexual partners.

01:26:04.260 Yes, but that doesn't mean that I've had.

01:26:05.160 You've not had a hard time getting laid.

01:26:07.700 Okay.

01:26:08.080 That's.

01:26:08.280 A lot of the bodies.

01:26:09.760 A lot of the connections.

01:26:10.400 What did you say?

01:26:11.280 Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.

01:26:12.280 Okay.

01:26:12.480 To the Valentine's Day reject, pleasing that power that women doesn't need, power from

01:26:17.860 men.

01:26:18.680 Also, that gatekeeper comment is an attempt for women to take responsibility slash accountability

01:26:24.300 for said power, not demean men.

01:26:26.740 God, he's bored.

01:26:28.100 Okay, so I would just like to add that just because I have had a lot of sexual connections

01:26:33.700 doesn't mean that I haven't been met with rejection and with the inability to connect

01:26:39.700 with someone in that way.

01:26:41.720 Specifically, it's a person by person basis, right?

01:26:44.840 The grass is greener on the other side.

01:26:46.600 I'm telling you about, you know, the amazing experiences that I've had, but I've had just

01:26:51.620 as many horrible, traumatic, and honestly, really saddening ones.

01:26:56.080 Just because, just because I won first place doesn't mean that I didn't get, you know, 10th

01:27:01.680 place in literally every other competition.

01:27:03.280 Well, you can be rejected.

01:27:05.000 I'm not saying that you haven't ever been rejected in your life.

01:27:08.360 But I'm talking about rejected from having intercourse with men.

01:27:12.400 Yeah, she's talking about having a difficulty.

01:27:14.480 I mean, welcome to every day in a man's life.

01:27:16.420 No, but when I, well, Brian.

01:27:17.740 In every person's life.

01:27:18.820 Would you have?

01:27:19.240 Every person goes through that.

01:27:20.280 We've, women almost never get rejected.

01:27:23.740 Oh, see, and how do you know?

01:27:24.880 Are you a woman?

01:27:25.460 I can call up my ex right now.

01:27:27.140 I would like to bring it back to the conversation about, you know, the gatekeeping.

01:27:35.940 Well, this is related, but.

01:27:37.300 Yeah.

01:27:37.440 No, I would like to bring it back to that conversation by adding men have just as much

01:27:41.760 power to initiate or not initiate.

01:27:45.000 Right.

01:27:45.360 Wait, men are the initiators.

01:27:47.120 Not always.

01:27:47.680 Not always.

01:27:48.120 Not always.

01:27:48.660 Definitely not always.

01:27:50.060 Yes, not always, but overwhelmingly men have to initiate.

01:27:54.420 That's not true.

01:27:54.960 I think it depends on who you're talking to.

01:27:55.980 Okay, let me, let me, let me explain this.

01:27:57.980 Okay.

01:27:58.100 Yes.

01:27:59.540 Have you ever made a guy wait for sex?

01:28:02.280 No.

01:28:04.340 No.

01:28:04.860 Wait, in what capacity?

01:28:05.640 Okay.

01:28:05.840 Like, what are you, like.

01:28:06.760 The first time sleeping with a guy, has a guy ever wanted to have sex and you were.

01:28:10.980 Oh, okay.

01:28:11.520 Yeah.

01:28:12.080 Yeah.

01:28:12.460 I definitely have done that.

01:28:12.900 Okay.

01:28:12.980 Have you ever made a guy wait for sex?

01:28:15.100 In that capacity.

01:28:15.900 I have to think about that.

01:28:17.240 Let's exclude the professional situations.

01:28:19.660 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:28:19.760 I have to think.

01:28:20.280 Can you ask the question again?

01:28:22.140 Sorry.

01:28:22.640 Okay.

01:28:23.140 Have I had to make it?

01:28:24.020 Let's say first time you're with a guy, you're cuddling, making out, whatever, and he's

01:28:28.540 trying to move it forward and you've said, no, no, no, let's wait.

01:28:31.540 That depends.

01:28:32.680 It depends on if I vibe with him.

01:28:34.220 Like, if I, if I feel like we can connect well in that way, then of course not.

01:28:39.020 I'm going to go for it right away.

01:28:40.280 It's a yes or no.

01:28:40.980 Okay.

01:28:41.220 Well, we have some outliers at this table, but.

01:28:43.540 I think it's amazing.

01:28:44.120 Have you, have you ever made a guy wait for sex?

01:28:45.980 Yeah, the guy I'm dating right now, actually, we.

01:28:48.200 Pull the microphone closer to you.

01:28:49.220 Oh, sorry.

01:28:49.940 Okay.

01:28:50.700 To the edge of the table.

01:28:51.600 The guy I'm dating right now, actually, we, I made him wait for like six months.

01:28:56.540 Hold on.

01:29:00.040 Whoa, wait, wait.

01:29:00.960 Wait.

01:29:01.360 Okay.

01:29:01.520 So just.

01:29:02.620 No, I'm sorry.

01:29:03.960 Okay.

01:29:04.380 Let me ask you.

01:29:05.400 Hold on.

01:29:05.920 So the current guy that you're hooking up with or dating.

01:29:09.300 Yeah.

01:29:09.720 We're dating.

01:29:10.580 Okay.

01:29:10.780 You made him wait for six months.

01:29:12.100 Yeah.

01:29:12.660 You said during COVID that you had six partners concurrently.

01:29:16.740 Yeah.

01:29:17.020 Did you make them wait?

01:29:18.580 Well, it was different.

01:29:19.520 It was a different situation.

01:29:21.180 But like what?

01:29:22.720 See, if a girl, here's, here's my, here's why I'm kind of a little flustered by that statement.

01:29:27.640 If I found out that a girl had say, I don't know if, did you reveal body count 20 or 30?

01:29:32.780 I don't know.

01:29:33.240 It doesn't matter.

01:29:33.840 If a girl told me she had slept with 30 guys before me and she didn't make any of them wait.

01:29:39.780 And all of a sudden with me, Brian, I'm going to make you wait six months.

01:29:44.560 Well, it wasn't like that.

01:29:45.240 I mean, we were like, I'm like, we were friends.

01:29:47.480 I'm out.

01:29:48.220 We were friends and he was really into me.

01:29:50.020 And like all my friends were like, oh, he's really into you.

01:29:52.360 And I was like, yeah, he's really great.

01:29:53.880 But like, I think because we were friends first and I had also just kind of started to get the ick with like having so much energy towards so many people that I kind of took like a big step back when the world was like back to normal.

01:30:09.840 Respectfully, Brian, I think that just shows you weren't the one.

01:30:14.740 Well, there's a saying.

01:30:16.240 There's a saying.

01:30:17.100 I think it goes something.

01:30:18.300 The weight, the weight isn't, it's not worth the weight.

01:30:22.860 Oh, that's mean.

01:30:23.880 See, and if it's not worth the weight, fine.

01:30:25.860 I think it's a family house.

01:30:26.300 If the door is here, you can leave.

01:30:28.360 But this is a story you hear of, for example, and I don't think it's that she's not necessarily into you, although it could be.

01:30:35.020 Okay.

01:30:35.980 It's, let's say she had her fun and now she's, oh, I'm 29, I'm 30.

01:30:41.460 I got to lock down a provider.

01:30:44.420 Okay.

01:30:45.760 I'm going to make him wait.

01:30:47.280 I'm going to make him wait.

01:30:49.380 And then.

01:30:50.560 Your fear.

01:30:50.980 Oh, excuse me.

01:30:51.580 Your fear is of manipulation.

01:30:53.460 Is that true?

01:30:54.520 Yeah, I'm not doing that.

01:30:55.400 But it's the reality.

01:30:56.580 Like, I was just with a girl like two days ago.

01:30:58.700 Right.

01:30:58.880 Her roommate literally has slept with like four guys in the past month.

01:31:03.560 Right.

01:31:04.240 But she's seeing a guy who hasn't hit yet.

01:31:07.080 Right.

01:31:07.860 He has like, he's rich.

01:31:09.360 Like he has a McLaren and she's like, I see him as boyfriend material.

01:31:12.900 Yeah.

01:31:13.680 So it's like, if you just let four guys hit over the past month, but you're not trying

01:31:18.300 to do it with him.

01:31:19.180 But doesn't that show that those men were meaningless?

01:31:21.440 Yes.

01:31:21.640 Or you should be rewarded.

01:31:22.800 How is that meaningless?

01:31:23.800 And that's what guys want.

01:31:24.860 I think the logic behind that.

01:31:26.620 And I can maybe like break this down a little bit in terms that at least makes sense to me.

01:31:31.500 And hopefully like there can, it can break it up a little bit is when I am just having

01:31:36.340 these casual like hookups with people.

01:31:38.200 Right.

01:31:38.580 Like, you know, there's a small hope that like maybe, you know, if the person, if the

01:31:42.860 dude's cool, like, oh, maybe this could go somewhere, but like this high chance that

01:31:46.540 it probably won't.

01:31:47.560 So when I meet somebody who I see it moving in a direction that I would like, and we haven't

01:31:53.600 gotten intimate yet for me, at least personally, there comes in a fear that is like, okay,

01:31:58.440 well, if I do sleep with him, it's not going to fuck everything up.

01:32:00.920 Like it's fucked things up in the past.

01:32:02.420 So you'll still fuck with other guys in the meantime.

01:32:06.800 No, absolutely not.

01:32:07.500 Oh no.

01:32:08.200 That's not, that's not where we're going.

01:32:10.460 That's a good point.

01:32:11.420 That's even worse.

01:32:12.780 If a girl is making you wait and she's, hold on, a girl is making you wait while simultaneously

01:32:20.360 sleeping with one, two, three other guys.

01:32:23.100 That's me.

01:32:23.620 That's like, that's like a double standard.

01:32:27.480 All five of you guys are saying that's wrong, but that's the reality of what's going on.

01:32:31.720 I think that's what Val is saying with manipulation.

01:32:34.280 Like that instance is a perfect and clear example of manipulation.

01:32:37.500 So at what point, so women always say that guys are like assholes or whatever.

01:32:42.340 At what point do we say like women are manipulators?

01:32:44.120 No, I think there are times that women can show manipulative behavior, but it's just the

01:32:48.120 same as any other person.

01:32:49.760 People can show manipulative behavior regardless if it's male or female.

01:32:54.160 If you're a guy or a girl, it doesn't matter.

01:32:55.800 If you want something and you want to manipulate your way through it and you're just that type

01:32:59.440 of person, you're going to do that.

01:33:00.560 So for example, a guy's an asshole in that case and a girl's an asshole in that case.

01:33:04.220 When she's making the guy wait six months.

01:33:06.660 So can I finish though?

01:33:07.240 Because I never really got to like tell the situation.

01:33:09.740 Okay.

01:33:10.020 You after her.

01:33:10.860 Go ahead.

01:33:11.980 No, you go ahead and then she goes.

01:33:13.440 Yeah.

01:33:13.460 So I mean, we were, we were friends first.

01:33:18.200 It wasn't like I ever like wanted to initiate anything.

01:33:20.840 I think really what it came down to is the fact that he was really consistent in my life

01:33:26.480 and he was consistently there for me.

01:33:28.800 And then I think after a while I realized that like my favor changed, but it wasn't that

01:33:36.600 I necessarily like made him wait, but it was like, he definitely was trying for like six

01:33:41.360 months before I gave him the time of day for it.

01:33:44.780 Okay.

01:33:45.280 Because I wasn't really feeling it.

01:33:46.020 Go ahead.

01:33:46.280 So I, first of all, want to make it really clear that I want men to succeed in relationships.

01:33:52.360 Yeah, I absolutely agree.

01:33:53.160 I really want them to be able to have a fulfilling relationship, a fulfilling like bedroom life.

01:33:59.600 I want them to succeed.

01:34:00.920 I am not against men.

01:34:02.680 I don't have that sentiment, but I do feel like men tend to focus on the bad.

01:34:10.100 They tend to think of the worst case scenarios and that forces them to kind of close themselves

01:34:17.120 off and almost gatekeep their own relationships.

01:34:20.560 And I also think that men in this generation think way too generally.

01:34:26.420 I think the idea of individualism has declined and it's really sad, right?

01:34:33.120 But in both men and women, I will say that, you know, like there are a lot of women who say,

01:34:37.180 you know, all men are evil and there are a lot of men who say, oh, women are evil.

01:34:41.060 I think that sentiment is so sad because when I meet, for instance, Rex, right?

01:34:46.500 Let's say I meet you and I've been hurt in the past.

01:34:50.140 I might be a little reserved, but I'm still going to want to imagine the best case scenario

01:34:55.520 with you, whether that be to create a romantic relationship with you or a sexual one.

01:35:00.680 And let's say, let's say that you only want a sexual one with me and I'm craving something

01:35:05.960 romantic, you know, we're just not a good fit or vice versa.

01:35:09.760 And that's that.

01:35:10.980 But I feel like, again, the sense of individualism has been lost and a lot of men don't give

01:35:18.280 themselves the chance to realize that women are not trying to manipulate them, right?

01:35:24.380 No, look.

01:35:25.160 Well, they kind of are.

01:35:26.940 We're not going to deny we're not going to deny that it does happen.

01:35:31.800 And honestly, I'll be the first advocate to say that, like, be aware there are red flags.

01:35:37.620 If a woman is committed to you, but sleeping around and you don't know about it, that's

01:35:44.060 not that's not real.

01:35:45.220 That is manipulation.

01:35:46.540 That is.

01:35:47.260 That's what I teach is like having a radar of looking at a woman and within like 30 seconds

01:35:51.920 knowing what her body count is.

01:35:53.760 But see, no, no.

01:35:54.240 But listen.

01:35:54.860 But I don't understand.

01:35:55.720 That's super close.

01:35:56.940 Wait, wait, wait.

01:35:57.500 We never got into your guys' body count.

01:35:59.380 Can we go back?

01:36:00.240 What's your body count?

01:36:01.080 We never got that.

01:36:01.600 We all spoke about our body counts and you guys are, and I just think it would only be

01:36:06.340 fair if we also heard your body count as we continue this conversation.

01:36:08.040 And please go into detail.

01:36:09.920 Yeah.

01:36:10.240 I don't need detail.

01:36:10.980 Are you guys in a relationship right now?

01:36:12.600 How old are you?

01:36:13.740 Well, he did say he said he was single.

01:36:15.720 He said that his longest relationship was a year and a half.

01:36:17.660 I stopped counting after like 55 or something like that.

01:36:20.600 Wait, but you gave me shit for having 20 and you didn't think I was realistic?

01:36:23.740 Because men and women are not the same.

01:36:25.780 That's disgusting.

01:36:26.780 Why are the same?

01:36:27.540 Men and women are not the same.

01:36:30.080 Hold on.

01:36:30.460 Let them talk.

01:36:31.240 Let them talk.

01:36:31.680 Look, look.

01:36:32.320 Men and women are fundamentally different.

01:36:35.140 Okay?

01:36:35.420 I don't know if I can say this, but we have a dick.

01:36:39.660 You have a vagina.

01:36:40.860 Yeah.

01:36:41.540 It's the only difference.

01:36:42.020 So like we penetrate women.

01:36:44.760 Not all the time.

01:36:45.920 And it's like women can only have one baby a year.

01:36:51.680 Men can have a thousand babies.

01:36:53.920 Sometimes three.

01:36:54.560 So in my perspective with that, right, men can have multiple.

01:36:58.020 Wouldn't you think that you are more of the gatekeeper than a woman?

01:37:01.020 In the sense that like you can have multitudes of spout like offspring.

01:37:05.440 You know what I mean?

01:37:05.860 For me, I'm definitely the gatekeeper because I've hit that.

01:37:09.400 When we talk about like the 10%, the 5%, you know what I'm saying?

01:37:13.040 So I choose who I want to be with for most.

01:37:16.980 Yeah.

01:37:17.120 Can you stop?

01:37:17.760 Stop interrupting.

01:37:18.580 Yeah.

01:37:18.840 You guys are, what's the word?

01:37:21.360 You guys have abundance.

01:37:22.840 So I had to work for that abundance and now I'm the gatekeeper.

01:37:26.600 It's very easy for women to get laid.

01:37:28.660 It's very difficult for men to get laid.

01:37:30.860 That's why there's a double standard.

01:37:31.940 I wasn't aware that was so difficult for men, honestly.

01:37:33.960 It's been really.

01:37:35.100 Women have no idea.

01:37:36.500 No, I'm not.

01:37:36.900 I'm not being sarcastic.

01:37:38.020 Like I genuinely didn't know it was difficult for you guys.

01:37:40.600 No, here's why.

01:37:41.320 Because women, they project, you guys project your reality onto all men.

01:37:46.620 You think that the way you guys have it is the way men have it.

01:37:50.660 An average woman, if she was so inclined, could sleep with a new guy every single day of the week.

01:37:55.700 For a guy to be able to do that, he has to be either very good looking, he has to have status,

01:38:00.480 he has to have money, he has to have something.

01:38:02.900 An average man, a guy who's working in McDonald's, ain't going to be running through girls.

01:38:09.360 An average chick who works at McDonald's can have a new guy every single night of the week.

01:38:15.140 We're not the same.

01:38:16.160 It's different.

01:38:17.160 It's so, that's why there's a double standard.

01:38:18.960 It's not impressive for a woman to sleep with a bunch of guys because that's easy.

01:38:23.820 Whereas for men, it's very difficult for men to get laid.

01:38:28.500 Let me put, just add this one thing.

01:38:31.640 An average woman, if we're looking at equivalency, an average woman has about the same negotiating power,

01:38:39.980 has the same pull as essentially a male celebrity.

01:38:44.700 Where do you get that statistic?

01:38:46.220 From real life.

01:38:47.480 It's self-evident.

01:38:47.780 Hold on, hold on.

01:38:48.380 Let me finish.

01:38:48.760 It's self-evident.

01:38:49.580 It's not a statistic.

01:38:51.440 It's just, the sky is blue.

01:38:53.140 I look up in the sky.

01:38:54.060 The sky is blue.

01:38:54.820 I see it.

01:38:56.060 I know for a fact, average women have an abundance of sexual choice.

01:39:02.400 So for a man, an average woman has the equivalent pull as a male celebrity.

01:39:09.380 In terms of being, the regularity in which they can get laid.

01:39:16.660 I would say very generally speaking, you are correct.

01:39:19.000 I'm not going to disagree with you.

01:39:19.820 How's that weird?

01:39:20.600 It's true.

01:39:21.380 I just, I've never like really thought of it that way.

01:39:23.740 It's just kind of like a weird way to put it.

01:39:25.020 But I mean, I guess you're not wrong, but like.

01:39:27.580 Well, thank you.

01:39:28.680 I don't know.

01:39:29.680 It's just like a weird thought, you know, like I've never thought about it, I guess.

01:39:34.120 Like a male celebrity.

01:39:35.400 I have heard that sentiment.

01:39:36.560 Ladies, if you haven't done this before, make a fake male profile on Tinder and see what

01:39:41.780 the experience is like.

01:39:42.960 Brian, you're, I'm not going to disagree with you.

01:39:45.260 Everything that you said on a general level is very true.

01:39:48.420 I agree.

01:39:48.820 Yeah.

01:39:49.060 Try it, you guys.

01:39:49.900 It's, it is a trip.

01:39:51.080 I've done it with my partner and it is depressing.

01:39:54.380 The, the amount of bots, sorry, Tinder, but the amount of, there are bots on Tinder.

01:39:59.100 There are like chat bots on Tinder.

01:40:00.680 There's like, oh my God.

01:40:02.420 It is, it's a minefield for men.

01:40:04.560 Sexually.

01:40:05.020 Yeah.

01:40:05.320 Sexually.

01:40:05.720 I'll get to you in just a sec.

01:40:07.140 Most women can sleep with most men.

01:40:09.720 Most men cannot sleep with most women.

01:40:12.740 I mean, sure, but I'd like you to finish a point with that thought.

01:40:15.740 I mean, are you going somewhere?

01:40:17.360 Yeah.

01:40:17.480 Well, I'm tying it back to the gatekeeping thing.

01:40:19.900 Okay.

01:40:20.320 So women are the gatekeepers of sex.

01:40:23.460 Ultimately.

01:40:24.060 Yeah.

01:40:25.760 Are, some girls are just down on the first night, but most women are going to leverage

01:40:31.120 sex against you in some way.

01:40:32.860 They're not going to have sex immediately.

01:40:35.080 I know you're laughing, but.

01:40:36.220 No, I'm not, I'm not disagreeing with that.

01:40:38.240 Okay.

01:40:39.320 I'll give you an anecdote, but that might not be sufficient.

01:40:42.500 I'm just laughing at her.

01:40:43.320 That's fine.

01:40:44.000 That might not be sufficient for you.

01:40:45.440 I would say of the past, I don't want to give a number because I don't reveal my body count

01:40:50.320 because.

01:40:51.360 Okay.

01:40:52.080 Oh, Brian.

01:40:53.360 You just get everybody else.

01:40:54.400 Brian, you slutty boy.

01:40:56.140 Well, here's, here's why, here's why I don't reveal my body count is I think body count

01:41:01.140 matters.

01:41:02.460 Ergo, I don't share my body count.

01:41:04.320 Can I ask why it matters to you personally?

01:41:06.100 Why does it matter?

01:41:07.760 To you personally.

01:41:08.560 Yeah.

01:41:08.660 Why does it matter?

01:41:09.220 Just because you think that like a lower body count is better?

01:41:11.320 Or just, I, she's asking why does it matter to you?

01:41:13.580 I think lower body count in both men and women is better.

01:41:17.160 Okay.

01:41:17.440 Why?

01:41:18.380 Take me off the roster, coach.

01:41:20.400 I just, I'm genuinely curious.

01:41:22.920 Okay.

01:41:22.940 Well, I mean, this one always, people don't like it when I bring this up because it's such

01:41:27.180 an obvious one, but STD risk, the more sexual partners.

01:41:31.000 You're not wrong.

01:41:31.020 Just get tested.

01:41:31.880 Well, well, no.

01:41:32.560 Okay.

01:41:32.780 Hold on.

01:41:33.140 He's ready.

01:41:33.800 You just said, just get tested.

01:41:35.080 Uh-huh.

01:41:36.220 People hook up at bars and parties and clubs and drunk.

01:41:39.920 Do you not ask?

01:41:40.720 Do you really think, let me ask, do you think the majority of people that are having casual

01:41:45.240 sex are getting tested before every single new sexual encounter?

01:41:50.300 Hell no.

01:41:50.880 Are they wearing condoms?

01:41:52.120 Hell no.

01:41:52.540 By the way, herpes doesn't fucking matter if you have a condom.

01:41:55.300 Dovington 7-0 and super chatted $100.

01:41:58.740 Mating statistics actually do show the fact that women have the abundance of choice.

01:42:03.400 Looks at Tinder swipe stats.

01:42:04.640 Let's pull up some studies.

01:42:05.280 Looks at stats that show significantly less percentage of men folk create throughout history.

01:42:09.580 Me too.

01:42:09.920 Hypergamy stats, et cetera.

01:42:12.200 I mean, I'll completely agree with this with the Tinder study as well.

01:42:14.600 No.

01:42:14.980 Yeah.

01:42:15.340 I'm not disagreeing.

01:42:16.780 I feel like Mia has something.

01:42:18.600 We're going to...

01:42:19.000 We're going to...

01:42:19.340 Guys, by the way, we are going to get to the super chats.

01:42:21.900 We just...

01:42:22.420 The conversation's been flowing.

01:42:23.920 So we are going to get to the super chats, guys.

01:42:25.700 Get your super chats in.

01:42:26.720 Guys, all super chats will be read or sorry, all super chats will be displayed in stream

01:42:31.680 overlay.

01:42:32.520 I will read answer super chats $20 and up.

01:42:37.040 We're going to pull up the studies really quick.

01:42:38.500 Go ahead.

01:42:38.920 Okay.

01:42:39.180 So I just want to tie into this conversation.

01:42:41.300 I'm not going to disagree with you that women do have more abundance in choice than men

01:42:47.180 do.

01:42:47.480 But where the gatekeeping part comes from is the quality of that person.

01:42:53.540 That is like a key thing that isn't being talked about.

01:42:57.020 Because you're right.

01:42:57.880 If I wanted to, I could probably hook up with three guys tonight.

01:43:01.960 Yep.

01:43:02.200 I could.

01:43:03.080 And I'm not going to deny that.

01:43:04.460 But would I want to do that?

01:43:05.820 No, I wouldn't.

01:43:06.960 And also, I would like to get to know them first.

01:43:09.560 I would like to see what's up.

01:43:11.740 Personality does matter to me personally.

01:43:13.720 Well, I would also like to ask.

01:43:15.380 Tate says gatekeepers of sex.

01:43:18.360 So he never said anything about relationships.

01:43:20.400 So he's talking specifically about sex.

01:43:22.100 You just said that you could sleep with three men tonight.

01:43:24.720 Please don't take this the wrong way.

01:43:26.020 I'm not saying this to insult you at all.

01:43:27.500 Your male looks equivalent is either a virgin or has an extreme difficulty getting laid.

01:43:34.980 Just, I'm not saying that to insult you.

01:43:37.380 I'm just saying.

01:43:37.760 Yeah, I'm not denying that.

01:43:38.960 But what I'm saying is that although I have an abundance of choice, I do gatekeep because

01:43:44.160 I'm not going to let just anyone do that with me.

01:43:47.280 I want it to matter.

01:43:48.460 And that is where the difference of perspective comes in regarding that specific situation.

01:43:54.580 Let me just tell Eric what he needs to pull up.

01:43:57.120 Eric, can you go into the, are you in the infographics folder?

01:44:05.640 One sec, guys.

01:44:06.500 We're pulling up some infographics here.

01:44:09.540 Okay, podcast infographics folder.

01:44:12.100 Okay, you're going to pull up OKC new chart, OKC, OKC1, OKC2, OKC message.

01:44:18.460 And, uh, also you're going to pull up, I'm going to have you pull up sex frequency, it's just

01:44:27.720 sex freak, F-R-E-Q, and then you're also going to pull up hypergamy.

01:44:33.580 OKC, while you do that, let me do some, did you want to come in really quick?

01:44:39.440 No, that's really just all I wanted to say.

01:44:41.540 OK, sure.

01:44:42.360 Let me do the soup chats while Eric is pulling all those up.

01:44:45.060 All right, so we have, uh, Zoro's lost.

01:44:48.020 Um, oh yeah, this, just Zoro's lost, just remember, remember 20 and up.

01:44:52.380 I think you've resubmitted it, though.

01:44:54.200 Lukewarm, $20 soup chat, Brian, where are your hoodie strings?

01:44:56.560 Like, get it together soon.

01:44:58.020 Uh, I pulled it out, I don't like the hoodie strings.

01:44:59.840 Thank you, man.

01:45:00.760 Uh, Gus, $20 soup chat, they are never single by choice, only celibate.

01:45:04.140 If you're 47, single and childless, you're definitely the problem.

01:45:07.960 Saddest demo of person in Western countries is 42 plus women making 50K plus no, uh, kids,

01:45:14.860 family, your past body count matters to most men.

01:45:18.500 That's right, I need to get back into the body count thing.

01:45:21.040 Um, do you want to read these, by the way?

01:45:24.660 I think you might have a better soup chat reading voice.

01:45:26.980 Yeah, do you want to read this one?

01:45:27.980 Oh, yeah.

01:45:29.920 Can you read this one?

01:45:31.520 Absolutely not.

01:45:32.320 Come on.

01:45:32.620 I'll read it.

01:45:33.380 No.

01:45:34.780 All right, go ahead.

01:45:35.580 Okay.

01:45:36.060 Uh, just Beat in Cheeks, $50 soup chat.

01:45:37.660 Beat in Cheeks, $50.

01:45:39.580 Brian, I will fly you Colombian women right now to replace the clown, hippie, and OF girls

01:45:46.020 you took in this evening.

01:45:47.580 Polly Femmes on the panel.

01:45:48.940 Do you actually see yourselves ever entering a serious relationship with a decent guy with

01:45:53.820 your indecency?

01:45:55.220 Totally.

01:45:55.600 It's funny because we're currently in long-term relationships with wonderful men.

01:45:59.740 Uh-huh.

01:46:00.160 Absolutely.

01:46:00.780 That's hilarious.

01:46:01.540 I will just add that Colombian women are beautiful.

01:46:04.160 Okay.

01:46:04.840 No, I mean, if you want to bring some Colombians, we can share the tape.

01:46:08.960 I'll show them a good time.

01:46:09.880 Oh, Beat in Cheeks is coming on the podcast.

01:46:12.060 Okay, Zoros Lost, thank you for the 20 of the soup chat.

01:46:14.940 Do you want to read it?

01:46:16.020 Do you want to read it?

01:46:16.620 A woman is a reflection of her man.

01:46:19.080 Gross.

01:46:19.820 The fact he agreed to share her when it was her decision tells you he's a beta simp.

01:46:24.400 A promiscuous woman equals 304.

01:46:26.640 A man, a 304 maker.

01:46:28.440 What are these numbers?

01:46:29.880 Women take a huge L the more men she hooks up with.

01:46:32.840 Okay.

01:46:33.820 That's so funny.

01:46:34.660 I can say the same for men, I guess.

01:46:36.580 It goes both ways.

01:46:37.360 Or it shows you that you have...

01:46:38.300 Men and women aren't equal.

01:46:40.020 Well, they're not.

01:46:40.480 But if your body count is high too, does that not play enough factor as to how I would view

01:46:45.180 you if you're viewing me differently?

01:46:46.380 The guys that you've gotten with right now, right?

01:46:48.640 Oh my God.

01:46:48.900 Did they have a low body count or higher?

01:46:51.380 We didn't talk about it.

01:46:52.380 Okay, wait.

01:46:52.860 But you sensed it from them that they got women, right?

01:46:55.540 I mean, yeah.

01:46:56.220 They got me, so...

01:46:57.440 Racks.

01:46:58.140 I'm not hanging out with scrubs, like...

01:47:00.340 Exactly.

01:47:00.920 So you just called the guys who are, like, have a low body count scrubs, right?

01:47:06.260 Not necessarily.

01:47:07.380 I'm, like, personally, like...

01:47:09.260 Because women vibe off intuition.

01:47:10.940 So if you look at a guy and he has the experience, generally you're going to go after that type of guy.

01:47:15.680 I think you're also limiting the experience of BDSM spaces because...

01:47:19.780 What?

01:47:20.360 You can kind of tell...

01:47:21.120 Dominant women like subservient men, and I feel like we're just glossing over that.

01:47:25.200 Well, that's a whole different category.

01:47:25.940 Well, yeah, because that's the exception.

01:47:27.140 You can kind of tell, though, like, when you're meeting a person, like, in a club...

01:47:30.900 In a club, in a bar, wherever you want to meet somebody.

01:47:33.540 Like, how we met you outside or whatever.

01:47:35.440 Oh, yeah.

01:47:35.860 Like, we could kind of sense your vibe, how you could sense our vibe.

01:47:38.400 And it's just, like, my first initial contact with somebody, my first thought isn't, like...

01:47:43.820 It's, like, oh, wow, like, yeah, he's hot, but it's not, oh, yeah, like, he probably, like, bones a lot of girls.

01:47:50.060 Yeah, because women move...

01:47:51.920 Oh, don't worry about it.

01:47:53.060 Well, I would also...

01:47:54.060 Because women move off intuition.

01:47:56.280 Okay.

01:47:56.560 You know what I'm saying?

01:47:57.360 Right.

01:47:57.680 So I've literally seen both sides before.

01:47:59.640 You know what I'm saying?

01:48:00.180 Like, I used to not have as many girls.

01:48:03.840 And you will see the way they react to you.

01:48:05.700 It's, like, when you have the experience, it's a totally different thing.

01:48:09.140 Yeah, I can see how that could play a factor.

01:48:11.160 Do you think that has to do with your experience or it has to do with your confidence level upon gaining the experience?

01:48:16.380 Let's move on.

01:48:17.200 We got...

01:48:17.380 Wait, wait, wait.

01:48:17.920 Please, please.

01:48:18.600 I have something I really, really want to say.

01:48:20.260 Quick, make it quick, please.

01:48:21.000 Um, Rax, you just said that men and women are not equal.

01:48:25.840 Yeah.

01:48:26.360 Save it until after the super chat.

01:48:28.640 I'll put a pin in it.

01:48:28.780 I'll put a pin in it.

01:48:28.880 I'll put a pin in it.

01:48:29.920 I will.

01:48:30.120 Okay.

01:48:30.920 We have Manisei, $20 super chat.

01:48:33.780 Thank you, man.

01:48:34.600 Would love to know every girl on the panel's relationship with their father.

01:48:37.700 Maybe start the panels off like that every live so we can get an idea of what we're getting ourselves into.

01:48:42.600 Okay, really quick around the panel.

01:48:44.760 Um, good, bad, and also are your parents still together or are they separated?

01:48:50.420 Go ahead.

01:48:50.940 I had a decent relationship with my dad until he died at 19, so.

01:48:54.520 Sorry to hear that.

01:48:54.920 I was 19, so, yeah.

01:48:56.680 Rip.

01:48:57.740 I.

01:48:58.620 Sorry.

01:48:59.700 R.I.P.'s in the chat.

01:49:01.920 Go ahead.

01:49:02.620 I have a great relationship with my father and he's actually watching, so shout out to my dad.

01:49:07.080 Yo.

01:49:07.440 Oh, set me up.

01:49:09.000 Yo, shout out.

01:49:11.360 Gary.

01:49:11.760 Great father.

01:49:12.340 Yo, Gary, what's up?

01:49:13.720 Yes, Gary.

01:49:14.840 Oh, hi.

01:49:15.060 Really quick, though.

01:49:15.980 Um, I just had lunch with my dad today, actually.

01:49:18.620 Your parents still together?

01:49:19.540 They are still together.

01:49:20.360 Okay, cool.

01:49:21.060 I have an amazing relationship with my dad and they are still together.

01:49:24.360 What about you?

01:49:24.840 Hi.

01:49:25.120 I'm not just going to let anyone get with me except the 300 plus people.

01:49:33.100 A cheap product has many customers.

01:49:35.640 That physical and emotional damage clearly shows.

01:49:38.620 The men who accept such low-hanging food also show their lack of discernment.

01:49:43.340 Omae wa mou shindeiru.

01:49:45.780 Nani?

01:49:46.400 He probably picked me up in a club, so I'm not worried about it.

01:49:49.500 Um.

01:49:49.900 Keep going.

01:49:50.740 Okay.

01:49:52.080 So, I have a great relationship with my dad and my parents are still together.

01:49:57.600 Actually, our relationship has gotten better throughout the years, I would say.

01:50:00.400 Like, I would say since me being a teenager and he started to respect me more as, like,

01:50:05.200 me being me rather than trying to put this type of projection of what I should be.

01:50:13.940 And now we have, like, the best relationship.

01:50:16.280 I would not change it.

01:50:17.120 Cool.

01:50:17.560 Jeffrey Durst, Dunst, excuse me, $20 Super Chat.

01:50:19.980 Thank you, man.

01:50:20.320 Appreciate it.

01:50:20.780 Hey, Brian, you told me to show up in the chat, so here I am.

01:50:23.180 I'm going to sleep now, ladies.

01:50:24.540 Please just remember that men and women are different.

01:50:26.840 Therefore, we think differently.

01:50:28.080 So, don't be shocked when we want different, too.

01:50:30.320 I believe this is in relation to body count, but.

01:50:33.420 We hear you, Jeffrey.

01:50:34.540 Yep.

01:50:34.820 We're going to touch on body count later.

01:50:36.840 Yo, Derek, man, ex.

01:50:39.000 I think the TTS got this one right.

01:50:40.860 Who really expects a man being, if you just want to hook up, it's the streets who actually

01:50:46.360 want stability or partner for life.

01:50:48.060 I think we've got that as a TTS.

01:50:49.480 Derek, thank you so much for the big $50 Super Chat, man.

01:50:52.260 Appreciate it.

01:50:53.360 Ian Hall, when I heard.

01:50:55.020 Okay.

01:50:55.680 This was the TTS.

01:50:58.540 Opposematism.

01:50:58.900 I have no idea what that is.

01:51:00.420 That's a big word, even for you, little guy, Ian.

01:51:02.820 Opposematism.

01:51:03.020 Oh, oh.

01:51:04.160 Okay.

01:51:04.560 Zorslaus.

01:51:05.100 Thank you, man.

01:51:05.940 It's hilarious when they brag about being hosed.

01:51:09.280 Notice how a bunch of fours get attention from simps at men out of their league.

01:51:14.520 Can you do it in a Jamaican?

01:51:16.080 Here, you read it.

01:51:16.760 Go ahead.

01:51:16.900 I don't think Jamaican's appropriate, but I can do German.

01:51:19.460 Oh, that's what you're going to do, German?

01:51:21.480 Ooh, never mind.

01:51:22.200 That's not going to be it.

01:51:22.700 Can you just do it?

01:51:23.660 Yeah, okay.

01:51:24.240 It's hilarious when they brag about being hosed.

01:51:26.920 Notice how a bunch of fours get attention.

01:51:29.040 I think I'm a four.

01:51:29.820 I love even numbers.

01:51:31.040 Get attention from simps and men out of their league and think they're winning.

01:51:35.840 Fellas, never listen to the fish how to fish.

01:51:38.740 Okay.

01:51:39.060 What?

01:51:39.380 It's a setup for failure.

01:51:40.620 The streets are cold.

01:51:41.880 Sorry, Zorro's lost.

01:51:42.800 You're having a hard time out there.

01:51:43.540 I like your PSP, though.

01:51:45.080 Call me.

01:51:46.140 I'm a One Piece fan.

01:51:48.540 Was that a slurp?

01:51:49.940 Yeah.

01:51:50.300 Wait, can you do it again?

01:51:53.820 Okay.

01:51:54.620 All right.

01:51:55.920 A new sound bite.

01:51:57.560 Okay.

01:51:58.080 Ian Hall, $20.

01:51:59.060 Thanks, man.

01:52:00.100 We get it.

01:52:00.880 She is a slip and slide.

01:52:03.020 Next.

01:52:03.560 Oh, who's that for?

01:52:04.480 Probably me.

01:52:05.380 His name's Lillian.

01:52:06.080 I love a good summer fun time.

01:52:08.260 Dank Naked, thank you for the $25 soup chat.

01:52:10.120 You have asked these girls if they have any idea about their ability to pair bond coupled

01:52:14.000 with how many men they had SFX, okay, or that high-value men don't want used women.

01:52:19.960 That doesn't make sense, but okay.

01:52:20.940 Is that a question or a statement?

01:52:22.560 By the way, can you guys, just a polite request, if you guys are able to just proof

01:52:27.400 check these before you send the soup chats, just so I have a little easier time parsing

01:52:32.160 what you're saying.

01:52:33.560 Struggling with the grammar out here.

01:52:34.640 I think the question is, you have to ask these girls.

01:52:38.540 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:52:38.940 I think, yeah, yeah.

01:52:41.340 Unclear.

01:52:41.820 We're in the study now.

01:52:42.440 I mean, well, basically, we were talking about body count earlier, and the first thing

01:52:46.840 I brought up, and I haven't brought up the other reasons why body count matters, but

01:52:49.880 a woman, and also this impacts men too, but to a lesser degree, the more sexual partners

01:52:55.960 you've had, there's a greater difficulty pair bonding with future partners.

01:53:01.340 I think that's up to the individual.

01:53:02.780 Yeah.

01:53:03.240 I don't know if we can speak to that without a study in front of me.

01:53:06.140 It might be statistically correct, but it's science.

01:53:07.140 Well, give me the study, babe.

01:53:09.020 Like, you know, if I can't see anything, studies are so biased.

01:53:12.240 There are sample sizes.

01:53:13.680 So, just simple science.

01:53:15.680 Do you know how your memory works?

01:53:17.140 Oh, my gosh.

01:53:18.340 Yeah.

01:53:18.820 Enlighten me.

01:53:19.340 So, basically, you have an imprint based off the guys that you've been with in your past.

01:53:24.720 So, if you rack up 25 guys that you've been with, the memories of them, they stick inside

01:53:29.860 your mind to the point where you can't bond with a new guy.

01:53:33.680 Let's keep it moving.

01:53:34.720 All right.

01:53:34.940 We have Zentians here, $50 soup chat.

01:53:37.540 I think this came through as a TTS.

01:53:39.840 Yeah.

01:53:40.160 I should just.

01:53:40.820 Okay.

01:53:41.980 Thank you, Zentians, though.

01:53:43.060 Dude, you've been dropping a ton of soup chats.

01:53:44.480 Really appreciate the support.

01:53:46.000 I hope the brain surgery went well today.

01:53:48.560 I know that you were.

01:53:49.760 Shouldn't he be sleeping?

01:53:51.440 No.

01:53:52.400 He's got, like, 200 IQ.

01:53:55.700 So, he's, like, super just all the time.

01:53:57.580 He can micro.

01:53:58.320 Like, he honestly sometimes sends these soup chats in the OR operating room.

01:54:02.860 So, he should just go get a Rubik's Cube.

01:54:05.020 Can I not be a patient?

01:54:05.860 I hope your surgery went well.

01:54:07.920 That's a little scary.

01:54:08.980 I don't want somebody to be messaging.

01:54:10.520 But, yeah.

01:54:10.960 He's.

01:54:11.280 The YouTube channel while I'm in surgery.

01:54:12.420 Zentians has, like, the micro.

01:54:13.980 You know?

01:54:14.260 Like, the micro.

01:54:14.860 Like, he can be doing, like, three different things.

01:54:17.360 Like, do you guys know Command & Conquer General Zero Hour, the game?

01:54:20.720 No.

01:54:21.280 Like, 2003.

01:54:22.560 I know what it is.

01:54:23.460 Kind of.

01:54:23.580 2003.

01:54:24.040 Like, one of the top RTS games.

01:54:25.400 Like, I don't know if you guys are into FPS.

01:54:27.480 But, like, RTS is, like, way better, right?

01:54:29.500 So, he's got the fucking micro, right?

01:54:31.040 So, he's got, like, you know, let's say he's playing, like, China Infantry.

01:54:34.020 No.

01:54:34.260 Actually, let's say he's playing GLA, right?

01:54:36.420 He's going to throw a bunch of rocket men into the technical.

01:54:39.120 Boom.

01:54:39.460 Rush your base.

01:54:40.060 You're done.

01:54:41.100 While he's performing brain surgery.

01:54:42.720 So, watch out for Zentians.

01:54:44.000 Oh, my goodness.

01:54:44.520 I don't like that.

01:54:45.220 Dude, Zentians, though, he's, like, back during the Generals, Command & Conquer Generals days.

01:54:50.660 What clinic is he working at that he's playing video games and doing brain surgery?

01:54:54.460 Yeah, while you're in surgery, you're not.

01:54:55.740 That's a little concerning.

01:54:56.700 I like that you know all this info about the commentator, Brian.

01:54:58.780 He's, like, top.

01:55:00.500 I'm a little concerned for his patients.

01:55:02.680 I hope they're all okay.

01:55:03.680 Maybe.

01:55:03.900 I trust his work, but, like, video games while working.

01:55:07.480 He's top ladder on Command & Conquer Generals.

01:55:09.180 I have seen a lot of top ladder doctors.

01:55:10.600 That's pretty cool.

01:55:11.240 Never seen him play a video game.

01:55:12.100 Top ladder.

01:55:12.880 I have a question for you.

01:55:14.280 Oh, sorry.

01:55:16.140 Okay, hold on.

01:55:17.300 Gus, $20 super chat.

01:55:18.480 When they are...

01:55:19.600 Oh, my God, bro.

01:55:20.700 Okay, I feel like...

01:55:21.540 Oh, this is an old one.

01:55:22.080 Can anyone do this in, like, a Jamaican accent or Barbados?

01:55:25.040 Are you...

01:55:25.440 Oh, and super chatted $100.

01:55:28.480 Women are on one side of the locked door.

01:55:31.240 Men try to get through the door.

01:55:32.600 A man usually has to be worthy of getting through the door.

01:55:35.540 A woman's quality is based on how few men she's let through the door.

01:55:39.020 A man's value is based on if he could earn going through men...

01:55:42.020 Was that a poem?

01:55:46.300 Can you pull that up, Eric?

01:55:47.280 Was that a poem?

01:55:48.440 He wrote us a high-toe.

01:55:49.660 Can you pull it up?

01:55:52.460 Yeah.

01:55:53.100 Derpington, 701.

01:55:55.080 Thank you for the big $100 soup chat, man.

01:55:56.640 Thank you.

01:55:57.220 Women are on one side of the locked door.

01:56:00.220 If she's let through the door, a man's value is based on if he could earn going through many doors.

01:56:05.460 Oh, so you're talking kind of like the lock and key metaphor?

01:56:07.280 Couldn't I say that a vagina is like a pencil sharpener and a penis is like a pencil?

01:56:13.200 The more vaginas you fuck, the smaller you get.

01:56:15.940 Can I add something?

01:56:16.780 Not true, but...

01:56:17.740 Oh, my God.

01:56:20.340 But I mean, you could flip the script very easily, Brian.

01:56:23.380 So the key and lock analogy...

01:56:25.700 So I've heard the pencil sharpener as a rebuttal to the key and lock analogy, which is...

01:56:31.060 I think they're both absurd.

01:56:31.620 Well, so the key and lock analogy goes something like a...

01:56:35.380 Fuck, it's a...

01:56:38.380 Fuck, I have it, but it's a...

01:56:40.200 I know a key that opens many locks is more valuable than a lock that is opened by many keys.

01:56:45.780 Okay, a lock that is opened by many keys is a shitty lock, but a key that opens many locks is a master key.

01:56:51.300 I think I might have flipped it, but those are the two.

01:56:54.140 No, that's correct.

01:56:54.820 Okay, yeah.

01:56:55.380 That's correct.

01:56:56.080 But see, that analogy, it's suggesting that it's harder for men to get laid.

01:57:02.540 It's not like...

01:57:04.220 It's not an experience thing.

01:57:06.380 I feel like we've established that we don't disagree with you on that point.

01:57:08.160 Okay, fine.

01:57:08.960 Yeah.

01:57:09.240 But can I add something to that sentiment really quick?

01:57:11.640 Sure.

01:57:12.020 I feel like, yes, we do focus on the quality of men, but that doesn't just mean looks.

01:57:17.700 That doesn't just mean finances.

01:57:19.380 It can mean a multitude of things, right?

01:57:22.480 And that is up to the individual.

01:57:24.280 And I feel like men do the exact same thing.

01:57:27.120 You know, maybe a guy is not going to date a girl that he doesn't find super attractive.

01:57:30.600 That's fine.

01:57:31.280 There are guys who love to date women with great personalities who might not be super attractive.

01:57:36.680 I think it's...

01:57:37.660 I think this...

01:57:38.700 What I guess I'm trying to say is it goes for both men and women.

01:57:41.760 The qualities that they look for are different.

01:57:44.500 That's all I wanted to add.

01:57:45.620 I agree with you.

01:57:46.880 I would say that women, generally speaking, have much more standards and expectations

01:57:51.580 than men do in terms of what they're looking for in a partner.

01:57:54.940 Do you think that's a problem, that women have standards?

01:57:56.980 No.

01:57:57.340 I don't think it's a problem, but I think it...

01:57:59.080 Do you think men should have more standards?

01:58:00.880 I think they should.

01:58:01.780 Me too.

01:58:02.160 I agree with that.

01:58:02.960 I agree with that.

01:58:03.860 And one of those standards is not dating women with a high body count, but...

01:58:09.080 Why?

01:58:09.560 Wait, wait, wait.

01:58:10.100 Actually...

01:58:10.160 Can we get back to that?

01:58:11.240 I really want to know.

01:58:12.160 I mean, STIs are a valid concern.

01:58:15.420 Sure, for sure.

01:58:15.760 I completely agree with you there.

01:58:17.400 Here's what I'm going to do.

01:58:18.380 I'm going to note...

01:58:18.940 I've tossed in the towel.

01:58:19.860 Hold on.

01:58:20.380 I'm going to note for us to come back to it.

01:58:22.800 We will discuss body count.

01:58:24.100 I'm just going to get through the super chats.

01:58:25.560 Okay.

01:58:25.920 Okay.

01:58:26.260 We have...

01:58:27.140 Let's see.

01:58:27.600 Did we do this one?

01:58:28.780 Wait.

01:58:29.540 Yes.

01:58:30.100 Yeah.

01:58:30.540 Yeah, we did this one.

01:58:31.020 We got Zentience.

01:58:31.960 Did we get Gus?

01:58:33.100 Yes.

01:58:33.840 Are you sure?

01:58:34.280 We were trying to play this one.

01:58:35.500 We never read it.

01:58:36.140 Okay.

01:58:36.420 When they are about to hit the wall, they always stop thinking about doing shenanigans.

01:58:40.620 Y'all are ran through, and you don't like it because it's true, and they wonder why society

01:58:44.380 doesn't take them seriously.

01:58:46.380 L to California.

01:58:48.220 Oh, my God.

01:58:49.860 So good.

01:58:51.080 So good.

01:58:52.340 That one's funny.

01:58:53.620 That was a good one.

01:58:54.600 Are you enjoying your cows in the Midwest?

01:58:56.880 California.

01:58:58.140 That's actually hilarious.

01:59:00.100 Oh, no.

01:59:00.400 And I'm going to use that.

01:59:01.620 That's so funny.

01:59:03.040 California.

01:59:04.440 I like California Stan.

01:59:07.320 What's that?

01:59:08.460 What?

01:59:09.280 California Stan?

01:59:09.620 California Stan?

01:59:10.620 Oh, like we Stan in California?

01:59:14.860 No, no, no, no.

01:59:15.500 Like Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, California Stan, Afghanistan.

01:59:19.600 I did not think that that was all I do.

01:59:21.320 I don't think your clothes is nice as California.

01:59:22.320 I'm not even like someone who stans California.

01:59:24.880 Yeah, I'm a California Stan.

01:59:27.060 I was thinking like K-pop.

01:59:28.220 California Stan.

01:59:29.080 Yeah.

01:59:30.100 BDS Stan.

01:59:31.100 Yeah.

01:59:31.900 Yeah, but I understand.

01:59:33.220 California's a failed society.

01:59:34.540 Okay.

01:59:35.080 Why are you here?

01:59:35.900 We still live here, though.

01:59:36.820 You know what's funny about...

01:59:37.780 Oh, Jesus.

01:59:38.300 It's still going off.

01:59:39.000 Hold on.

01:59:39.220 Hold on.

01:59:39.320 You know what's funny is like a lot of people leave California because of the problems in

01:59:45.360 California, and they'll move to like Texas or other states, but they bring their politics.

01:59:53.280 They bring...

01:59:53.720 Let's be honest.

01:59:54.620 They bring liberal politics to conservative states, and then those states turn into shit.

01:59:59.880 Well, I mean, it has less to do with that and more to do with the fact that there's just

02:00:04.840 like a ton of people here.

02:00:06.080 Well, yeah.

02:00:06.740 It's a very nuanced...

02:00:07.920 I would like to not get into that.

02:00:10.700 This is a relationship podcast.

02:00:13.660 We like to talk about sex.

02:00:15.320 Oh, my God.

02:00:15.340 Thank you.

02:00:16.300 Yeah.

02:00:16.620 Thank you.

02:00:17.540 We have Derek, man.

02:00:19.020 Thank you for the $20 soup chat.

02:00:20.160 Girl on the left is going to watch the rest of the group sink the ship.

02:00:24.160 Okay.

02:00:24.620 Oh, I'm sorry.

02:00:26.020 What?

02:00:26.540 Is that...

02:00:26.840 They all like you the most.

02:00:28.220 Yeah.

02:00:28.540 I really am not talking about what's that.

02:00:30.540 I think why.

02:00:31.160 Oh, okay.

02:00:32.120 Dave on Jackson, $20 soup chat.

02:00:33.580 What WTF did I just tune into?

02:00:36.220 If you clap for everything, your claps mean nothing.

02:00:38.700 That was the only clap, by the way, in the whole thing, but okay.

02:00:44.100 Yo, Zentians, thank you again, man, for this big $100 soup chat.

02:00:47.820 As a woman, you're supporting a woman.

02:00:49.120 This came through as a TTS.

02:00:51.120 Big thank you, man.

02:00:51.880 Appreciate it.

02:00:52.420 We will pull up the stats here soon.

02:00:54.120 What is a 304?

02:00:55.300 It's a hoe.

02:00:55.740 It's a hoe.

02:00:56.760 It's a hoe.

02:00:56.860 It's the internet term.

02:00:57.760 Spelled it so they don't get blocked.

02:00:58.460 Oh, my God.

02:00:59.000 You guys are so weird.

02:01:00.120 I know.

02:01:00.500 Yo, Derek, man, thank you for the soup chat.

02:01:01.980 What do you mean is weird?

02:01:02.820 I didn't even think about that.

02:01:03.720 That's like going back to like 30 years.

02:01:05.660 Hold on.

02:01:06.080 Let's just do the soup chats.

02:01:06.900 Guys, ask each woman on the panel how important it is to have a low body count for a high-value

02:01:13.100 man.

02:01:13.840 As well, ask if you understand what constitutes what a high-value woman is.

02:01:18.140 I want quick answers, guys.

02:01:19.900 Okay, yeah.

02:01:20.860 So, body count, does that matter, and a male partner for you, and...

02:01:25.480 Zentians super chatted $50.

02:01:27.540 Oh, my goodness.

02:01:28.160 Gentlemen, be well, safe, and stoic.

02:01:31.180 Work out, work on yourself, and focus on improving your own life.

02:01:35.300 Travel, expand your horizons, and never let these copulatory sperm rags distract you more

02:01:41.280 than a night.

02:01:42.700 He had me in the first half.

02:01:45.720 Zentians has got quite the vocabulary.

02:01:47.980 He's quite a articulate man.

02:01:50.820 Copulatory sperm rags.

02:01:52.320 That's a new one.

02:01:53.060 I haven't heard that one before.

02:01:53.840 Love how you view women.

02:01:54.840 Do you guys want to respond to Zentians calling you copulatory sperm rags?

02:01:59.360 Well, more importantly, I think the first half of your message is great, but that last

02:02:03.860 half?

02:02:04.120 Yeah!

02:02:04.720 Like, like, what?

02:02:06.900 What?

02:02:07.420 Okay, I think if you don't have a girlfriend right now, it's probably because you view her

02:02:12.360 as a cum rag if she doesn't meet your standards, which is crazy.

02:02:20.820 Also, like, never mind.

02:02:23.340 Okay.

02:02:26.500 Yeah.

02:02:27.820 Interesting.

02:02:28.460 Okay, let's keep the next one.

02:02:30.420 No, no, no, no, no.

02:02:31.100 It was that question.

02:02:31.760 Oh, this question.

02:02:32.880 Yeah, real quick on this, guys.

02:02:34.080 Oh, that's right.

02:02:34.480 So, uh, does it, okay, does a guy's body count matter and what constitutes high value woman?

02:02:39.800 If you can give a quick answer, go ahead.

02:02:41.440 If I'm not insecure in the connection I have with somebody, if I like them enough, body count

02:02:46.800 is meaningless to me.

02:02:48.440 And what, what constitutes a high value woman?

02:02:51.660 I, I just, I don't subscribe to the, to the ideology.

02:02:56.140 Okay.

02:02:56.600 High value woman.

02:02:57.540 Um, body count does not matter.

02:02:59.360 I've had sex with some very high value men who also have a high value, high body count.

02:03:04.100 So what does that make a difference?

02:03:05.800 Um, and what was the last part of that?

02:03:08.540 What's a high value one?

02:03:09.920 Um, I think whatever women wants to call herself a high value woman, I think highly of myself.

02:03:16.020 So like, like I place myself in high value.

02:03:19.220 It's not really up to anybody else to determine that.

02:03:21.640 So thanks for coming.

02:03:23.020 Thanks for coming.

02:03:24.060 Agreed.

02:03:24.860 Dab me up, bro.

02:03:26.040 Dab me up.

02:03:28.080 Body count does not matter to me personally.

02:03:31.300 Um, I don't think it's ever really mattered to me.

02:03:33.620 And, and I kind of agree with valence actually.

02:03:36.700 I, uh, don't really think high value men, high value women should.

02:03:40.580 The smartest man in the world super chatted $49.99.

02:03:45.480 Delusion.

02:03:46.460 Solipsism is greater than 9,000.

02:03:49.100 The panel's inability to own their behavior without deflecting, distracting, and arguing

02:03:54.060 the exception is manipulation.

02:03:56.260 Over lifetime.

02:03:57.000 Pull it up, Eric, if you can find it.

02:03:59.760 Also, we've all owned our-

02:04:00.720 It's probably-

02:04:01.180 Yeah, we definitely owned everything that we've said actually.

02:04:03.820 Clearly you haven't been here.

02:04:05.080 Um, the whole time.

02:04:06.320 Uh, hold on.

02:04:07.620 Over lifetime average, U.S. man adds $225,000 to economy.

02:04:13.280 Average U.S. woman drains $122,000 over life.

02:04:16.960 Uh, hashtag repeal the 19th.

02:04:19.420 Okay.

02:04:20.000 Oh, we're not getting into that.

02:04:21.580 Oh, wow.

02:04:21.680 Oh, okay.

02:04:22.360 That's an interesting one.

02:04:23.500 Okay.

02:04:23.720 You can take the exit.

02:04:24.760 Okay.

02:04:24.980 Back to the question.

02:04:26.160 Okay.

02:04:27.080 Disgusting.

02:04:28.160 That's loaded.

02:04:28.740 I, um, I'm not gonna comment on the repealing of women's suffrage, but, uh, I did see there

02:04:35.560 was something, and this was statistically shown, that, uh, in terms of benefits, women

02:04:41.220 are, uh, a net negative in terms of what they contribute, uh, in terms of taxes, and

02:04:47.380 men are a net positive.

02:04:48.760 Go ahead.

02:04:49.120 Can I comment on that?

02:04:49.960 Okay.

02:04:50.200 So, today actually is a really great example.

02:04:51.980 I had a patient.

02:04:52.960 She's in her 70s.

02:04:54.200 She was telling me about how when she divorced her husband in the 70s because he was abusive,

02:05:00.160 um, she couldn't get a line of credit.

02:05:02.300 She couldn't get a job.

02:05:03.320 She couldn't get a house.

02:05:04.680 She didn't have, like, all of the financial things set up for her because, um, of the way

02:05:08.940 that women were basically considered in Texas in the 70s.

02:05:12.920 Women didn't, weren't able to open up their own bank accounts until, like, literally the

02:05:16.560 70s.

02:05:17.060 So, the fact that, like, we are not as a contributor to the economy, we haven't had as much time,

02:05:23.500 or rights, education, ability, than men.

02:05:27.140 I would really, really like to chime in here.

02:05:29.220 Well, one thing.

02:05:30.720 I'm black, so I was pretty much in the same situation.

02:05:34.260 So, then you totally feel me on that.

02:05:35.820 But now, like, I'm what you consider a high-value man, so I don't really use it as an excuse.

02:05:40.700 But, you know, because I work in medicine, so I'm contributing to my economy.

02:05:44.220 I mean, same difference.

02:05:45.200 You know what I mean?

02:05:46.180 Like, we don't fit the statistics.

02:05:47.540 I think this sentiment truly shows how little domestic labor is valued in society.

02:05:52.220 Oh, yes.

02:05:52.540 I don't think this has to do with finances.

02:05:55.120 I think domestic labor is perfectly valid, and sometimes...

02:05:58.360 I agree with that.

02:05:58.920 Yeah.

02:05:59.340 And necessary.

02:05:59.800 I gotta give a shout-out to the single moms, too, because...

02:06:01.940 True, yeah.

02:06:02.600 Who are working and taking care.

02:06:04.400 Single dads, single parents in general.

02:06:05.800 Yes, absolutely.

02:06:05.860 Just, it's very challenging to be a single parent in this day and age.

02:06:09.240 That actually, you make a very good point.

02:06:11.480 Thank you.

02:06:11.820 And that's a good point.

02:06:12.480 Yes.

02:06:12.720 Thank you.

02:06:13.220 Yeah.

02:06:13.940 Yeah.

02:06:14.300 You've been making it.

02:06:14.840 Yes, girl.

02:06:15.400 I would like to see maybe, like, because there were some differences in the past, I would

02:06:20.680 like to see the analysis of the...

02:06:24.620 I don't know what the appropriate term is, but...

02:06:26.760 What, like, domestic labor would be a cost of?

02:06:29.640 Of men, current people between the ages of 20 and 40, their net benefit on the tax system?

02:06:40.040 I think I just put a new study out in the last couple months, like, pertaining to something

02:06:43.640 like that, if you feel like researching.

02:06:45.920 I don't.

02:06:46.760 Okay.

02:06:47.180 I'm gonna look it up.

02:06:48.160 I would also like to say, too, that the 40...

02:06:50.640 This is touching on it, and then I'll be done.

02:06:51.940 But the 40-hour work week is also based off of having all of your, like, domestic needs

02:06:58.120 met.

02:06:58.460 Like, that was the original intention of the 40-hour work week, and it was also supposed

02:07:03.300 to originally cover the whole family for the 40-hour work week.

02:07:07.340 So, I mean, like, our whole financial system is based off of the family unit and men being

02:07:12.740 a single earner for the whole family, but our economy is so screwy that we now all have

02:07:18.200 to be single people earners, and so it's kind of just difficult.

02:07:21.440 Well, I mean, the reason why now both people have to work is, and I think it's good...

02:07:30.280 Well, it's a very nuanced thing, so I don't want to diminish it to just one thing, but the

02:07:36.000 reason you now need two incomes to support a family, and I think this is perhaps only a

02:07:43.320 small minor detraction of what happened.

02:07:46.640 I think it's fantastic that women are in the workforce.

02:07:48.840 Oh, education, absolutely.

02:07:50.060 No, okay, hold on.

02:07:50.720 I think it's fantastic that women have been able to join the workforce, and I think it's

02:07:54.840 fantastic that we have women that are trying to solve some of the most difficult problems,

02:08:01.980 such as cancer.

02:08:03.200 Like, I think I'm in favor...

02:08:04.940 Let's throw as much labor and resources as we can towards solving age-related disease,

02:08:11.580 Alzheimer's, cancer, disease, all this stuff, right?

02:08:13.980 However, there's socioeconomic and cultural impacts when you basically open up the labor

02:08:20.660 pool to...

02:08:24.200 You're basically doubling the labor pool when we kind of opened the market up to women

02:08:28.760 to start working.

02:08:30.020 Totally.

02:08:30.380 I mean, that's what I was saying.

02:08:31.000 I think that's a good thing, but that's, I would say, the primary reason why you now

02:08:35.760 need two incomes to provide family.

02:08:38.760 Well, that and also inflation.

02:08:40.880 But I would also say that, you know, that is very true.

02:08:45.440 Women...

02:08:46.040 But ultimately, to say that women are worth less because they contribute less financially,

02:08:50.720 it's just a false equivalent, frankly, because that's completely negating domestic labor

02:08:56.340 entirely, and that's just not fair, frankly.

02:08:59.560 I would have to look and see if we looked at younger age cohorts.

02:09:05.400 Well, to be fair, though, here's the thing, is that women have been graduating from university

02:09:10.020 at higher rates since the 1980s.

02:09:12.740 So women who graduated in 1980, they're now in their 60s, they're retirement age.

02:09:19.780 So we've had equality in university graduation rates since the 1980s.

02:09:25.560 1980.

02:09:25.960 But that was the beginning.

02:09:27.020 It wasn't really like...

02:09:28.480 Okay, sure, yes, but that's not to say that gender roles are not still present.

02:09:33.200 If gender roles weren't still present, we wouldn't be on this podcast talking about how men and

02:09:36.620 women are different.

02:09:37.060 Eric, how long has this super chapping up?

02:09:38.300 It just came up.

02:09:39.260 Oh, okay.

02:09:39.680 Well, also, like, I coach a lot of millionaires.

02:09:42.220 No billionaires yet, but I'm working on it.

02:09:44.280 He's working on it.

02:09:44.920 I coach a lot of millionaires where they literally have to set, like, a divorce budget aside.

02:09:50.140 You know what I'm saying?

02:09:50.880 Oh, that's so sad.

02:09:52.060 No, but it's a smart thing to do when you make a lot of money.

02:09:55.000 You have to protect yourself.

02:09:56.160 A lot of women are making a lot of money just off of the marriage system alone.

02:10:00.560 That's true.

02:10:00.880 Oh, yeah, no, that's for sure.

02:10:02.380 Eric, can you pop the door open, get a little fresh air going?

02:10:04.760 I would also like to add something that I feel like there are a lot of men watching

02:10:09.920 this podcast who feel like women are always out to find a super financially stable man,

02:10:16.140 and I will be a woman who openly admits, if I can take care of all the finances myself,

02:10:22.800 I would love to.

02:10:24.140 I would love to do that.

02:10:25.960 I would love to do that.

02:10:27.700 I would be more than happy to do that because I know that, you know, I'm serious.

02:10:33.240 I feel like...

02:10:34.560 But which one would you love more?

02:10:36.020 Honestly...

02:10:36.320 To take care of the finances or to have a man who's...

02:10:38.480 Honestly, I would love it to be equal.

02:10:40.220 I would love it to be equal.

02:10:41.580 I would love to take care of whatever necessities, like, I need and whatever necessities he needs.

02:10:47.580 I personally...

02:10:48.480 I would love to take care of my partner.

02:10:50.020 Personally.

02:10:50.720 I really believe that.

02:10:51.740 I would love to take care of my partner.

02:10:53.120 We're not there yet.

02:10:53.260 I feel like so many women say that until it's, like, 40 or 50, and then they see the guy,

02:10:58.040 like, not leveling up their finances, and then they're gone.

02:11:01.180 No, absolutely not.

02:11:02.500 My partner does more of the domestic labor in our relationship.

02:11:05.940 That's the fact.

02:11:06.780 He cooks for me.

02:11:07.700 He cleans for me.

02:11:08.660 And I bring home the income.

02:11:10.580 We currently are not 50-50.

02:11:12.480 We're more like a 75-25 split.

02:11:14.620 But I personally love it.

02:11:17.500 I mean, my mind isn't going to change anytime soon.

02:11:20.560 I love my partner, and I love our situation.

02:11:22.940 So I just want to ask you guys, because you guys are both do OnlyFans.

02:11:26.840 Are you guys able to share your monthly, you don't have to give exact numbers, but maybe

02:11:31.300 a range of how much you make on OnlyFans?

02:11:33.580 I would like to respectfully decline.

02:11:35.340 Yeah.

02:11:35.600 I would like to not share that number.

02:11:37.820 Well, just, it's sort of contextual just because we're talking about earnings.

02:11:42.600 I will say that...

02:11:43.180 Because most women...

02:11:44.180 Because here's the thing.

02:11:45.200 With OnlyFans, you can make such an obscene amount of money.

02:11:48.480 I don't make an obscene amount of money.

02:11:50.240 I will say that right now.

02:11:51.180 I am not one of those...

02:11:54.500 Well, okay.

02:11:55.300 So, I mean, I feel like people are making an obscene amount of money at the beginning,

02:11:58.220 and now that it's kind of just like a regular subscription service...

02:12:00.520 Women are making a lot of money.

02:12:01.700 No, it has to do with celebrity status.

02:12:03.500 If you have celebrity status, it's easy to rake in a lot of money.

02:12:07.040 I think...

02:12:08.140 I know this is going to be controversial on this podcast.

02:12:11.200 A lot of men like to view OnlyFans as not real labor or not a job.

02:12:15.080 But I'd like to say that you're still delivering a product.

02:12:18.300 You're essentially in sales.

02:12:19.720 I also pay my taxes, bro.

02:12:21.180 It's the sales of sexuality.

02:12:22.180 True.

02:12:22.720 And we are also taxpayers in addition to that.

02:12:25.400 But there is a product to be sold.

02:12:27.920 This isn't like, I opened a page, and oh, I have all these simps.

02:12:32.240 That's not how it works.

02:12:33.640 I mean, I think that's the perception of men.

02:12:35.980 They think that like, oh, you're a woman, you exist, money flows to you.

02:12:41.520 That's not the case at all.

02:12:43.800 It is very different.

02:12:44.920 But if you have celebrity status, it's easy to open a page the moment you open a page.

02:12:49.180 Tons of people are ready to join because they already like you.

02:12:51.900 Let me ask you guys both a question on this.

02:12:54.000 Do you know any women, maybe for you guys, you guys work incredibly hard with your OnlyFans.

02:12:59.480 You spend a lot of time on your content.

02:13:01.220 I mean, you guys do some costume cosplay stuff.

02:13:03.980 So I think there's a level of effort that goes into that.

02:13:07.260 But there are women who are more, say, vanilla.

02:13:09.940 There are some women who are more vanilla.

02:13:12.020 They just take nude photographs of themselves with their iPhone, upload it.

02:13:15.560 So you might know within your network that there are some women who do put in less effort

02:13:20.140 than you and they make a decent amount of money.

02:13:23.560 I'm not going to disagree to that.

02:13:24.980 Can I say something?

02:13:25.780 Of course.

02:13:26.480 I'm like, to a degree, Brian.

02:13:27.980 But also, I think it shows that you personally maybe haven't been, I don't know if I can say

02:13:33.540 corn.

02:13:34.860 Yeah, just say corn.

02:13:36.100 Say corn.

02:13:36.480 That you personally maybe don't have as much experience in the corn industry.

02:13:39.820 While there are women sort of like that, there is a lot of work and energy that goes into

02:13:45.260 filming a scene.

02:13:46.700 Lighting.

02:13:47.320 I mean, location.

02:13:48.900 Lighting.

02:13:49.440 Who's filming?

02:13:50.160 Am I paying that person?

02:13:51.460 Are we getting testing done?

02:13:52.560 Testing costs like $300 every time you get it done.

02:13:54.980 So even though maybe you see them as girls posing nude in front of a camera or just like

02:14:00.960 vanilla creators that just film typical erotic scenes, there is so much work that goes into

02:14:06.200 even that.

02:14:06.860 They don't have to be making costumes from scratch like I do.

02:14:08.820 But okay, we're sort of talking about something slightly different.

02:14:11.960 You're talking about like traditional corn.

02:14:14.480 No, women self-produced now.

02:14:16.420 Most OnlyFans girls that you see, they are self-producing their own videos.

02:14:19.780 But a lot of girls are just taking photos with their iPhones.

02:14:25.540 I would love to say that, but I've managed up to 20 women so far and every single one

02:14:30.460 of them put in the same level of effort.

02:14:32.820 So from a personal standpoint, I can say that that's not my experience.

02:14:35.860 I believe those women who are just taking the nudes on the iPhone or whatever, again,

02:14:40.720 they have more of a following, so it's a little bit easier for them to navigate that

02:14:44.520 space, whereas they don't have to really commit fully to, you know, make the corn experience

02:14:50.460 it in its entirety.

02:14:51.580 Okay.

02:14:51.860 You wanted to go, go ahead.

02:14:52.800 I am personal friends with somebody who does make a lot of money on that website.

02:14:59.500 Sure.

02:14:59.700 And I know plenty of other models who have as well.

02:15:02.240 And I'm going to be honest, it really does boil down to how attractive they are in the

02:15:09.380 societal sense.

02:15:10.540 I'm not even going to front.

02:15:11.620 But I don't want to bring a certain topic into this, but like if somebody has quality,

02:15:18.520 if a woman has qualities that are generally more appeasing to the public, she may, she's

02:15:24.660 still working hard because she still needs a fan base.

02:15:26.880 She still needs all that, but money will come easier to her.

02:15:30.740 I'm not denying that.

02:15:32.100 That's what I was going to say is like a really exceptionally attractive woman.

02:15:35.420 She can, you know, if you're less attractive, you're going to have to put in more effort in

02:15:39.760 other ways.

02:15:40.220 Yeah, but it also, I'm going to touch on the celebrity aspect again, and I'm going to

02:15:44.240 just use some of my own numbers that I feel comfortable with.

02:15:46.900 Sure.

02:15:47.100 When I first started, I made, and I had a little bit of a social media following because

02:15:51.680 I've been in the cosplay scene since like 2012.

02:15:53.960 I've been doing this for a really long time.

02:15:56.120 Yeah.

02:15:56.500 Right.

02:15:56.740 I've been doing this for a really long time.

02:15:58.060 You want to know how much I made my first month?

02:16:00.300 I made $25.

02:16:01.340 I made $25 my first month.

02:16:06.300 And I don't want to, I don't want to name drop, but like, you know, there are plenty

02:16:09.940 of celebrities opening up pages now.

02:16:12.720 There was a celebrity who turned 18, I think in 2021.

02:16:16.360 And she made $5 million on her first date.

02:16:23.160 Are you calling Daniel Bregoli or whatever?

02:16:25.820 I don't know.

02:16:26.440 Bad baby?

02:16:27.200 No.

02:16:27.720 She's one of them though, yeah.

02:16:29.040 Good for her.

02:16:29.420 But I feel like it's those creators that have sort of skewed your perception of how money

02:16:33.820 flows to women.

02:16:34.480 Well, I mean, we've had some OnlyFans girls on the show and they've shared.

02:16:37.640 A week or two ago.

02:16:38.740 We had some two weeks ago or one week ago, and then we had like eight girl, OnlyFans

02:16:46.080 panels.

02:16:46.700 I just want to say that like, yes, there are people making obscene amounts of money, but

02:16:51.300 that is not the case for everyone.

02:16:52.480 I personally would say that I make a very average income or like a little bit above an average

02:16:58.360 income what I would working a part-time job.

02:17:01.000 Okay.

02:17:01.220 So, but just to bring it back to what we were originally talking about, you were saying

02:17:05.420 that you would be, both of you were saying, and I think maybe some of you agreed, you'd

02:17:09.000 be perfectly okay being the sole breadwinner in the relationship.

02:17:12.760 I think that's fine.

02:17:13.420 If you feel that way, fine.

02:17:14.660 However, I would say most women, generally speaking, would not tolerate their partner

02:17:19.760 being a stay-at-home person.

02:17:21.980 And here's, I'll let you come in just a second.

02:17:24.280 Well, didn't mean it like that.

02:17:26.260 Hold on.

02:17:27.060 I'll let you come in.

02:17:28.360 Yes.

02:17:29.120 I'll hold on.

02:17:29.640 I see.

02:17:30.140 I get it.

02:17:30.480 Okay.

02:17:30.760 All right.

02:17:31.840 That got a little, a little spicy there.

02:17:35.080 So most women, for example, a woman who's an attorney would probably not look a guy's

02:17:41.880 way who works at Starbucks or who works at Chick-fil-A.

02:17:44.700 However, a male attorney would gladly date an attractive woman.

02:17:50.880 That's personal preference.

02:17:52.440 That's a 100% personal preference.

02:17:53.300 There's a stay-at-home husband for a lawyer, wife.

02:17:55.380 They're very positive.

02:17:55.820 Okay, but generally speaking, most women want to date men that are on their level or higher,

02:18:01.840 whereas most men, so long as she's pleasant and attractive, we really don't care about

02:18:07.980 your money.

02:18:08.320 Then set higher standards for yourself.

02:18:09.440 Yeah, that almost seems like an issue.

02:18:10.600 I feel like that comes back to what we were talking about, men should be setting higher

02:18:13.600 standards for yourself.

02:18:14.360 Yeah, if you don't want-

02:18:15.160 It doesn't, well, I could set the standard of, I want a woman that makes 200K a year, right?

02:18:22.540 Okay.

02:18:23.020 I could set that standard.

02:18:25.340 Well, one, that would limit my pool of potential partners.

02:18:27.700 Totally.

02:18:27.900 It's a standard that I don't, quite frankly, I don't really care about a woman's money.

02:18:32.880 It's great for her, but here's a reason, one of the reasons why men don't really care

02:18:37.940 about it.

02:18:38.680 There's an evo-psych reason because evolutionary, historically, men, we were the providers and

02:18:44.940 protectors.

02:18:45.920 So evolutionary, we haven't evolved to really look for a woman to provide for us.

02:18:51.140 And also, we, the way most men and women move, like, it's just not going to work out.

02:18:57.720 The big thing is, though, at least for me, is that even if a woman does make money, women

02:19:02.340 do not share their resources with men the same way that men share their resources with

02:19:07.220 women.

02:19:07.880 Men will spoil women.

02:19:09.200 Women, generally speaking, don't spoil men.

02:19:12.440 You know, I could agree with that.

02:19:13.900 And I would say that women need to court men more.

02:19:16.300 We were actually-

02:19:17.320 100% right now.

02:19:18.520 I love courting men.

02:19:19.760 I love taking men on dates, truly.

02:19:22.980 And again, maybe this has to do with me being a dominant woman and liking more submissive

02:19:27.320 men, but I love courting men.

02:19:29.500 But you just pointed out the whole thing.

02:19:31.080 You say you're a more dominant woman, right?

02:19:33.100 Wait, I want to add in on that.

02:19:33.680 But you're an outlier, though, because most women-

02:19:36.560 Perhaps.

02:19:37.000 And we've had a lot of women on this panel, and generally speaking, I would say most women,

02:19:42.800 like, first off, they want the guy to pay for the first date.

02:19:46.440 They want the guy to do the more traditional courtship.

02:19:48.620 They don't want to-

02:19:49.620 I like that.

02:19:50.000 I think that has to do with gender men.

02:19:51.600 And I do have to say, like, and that's- I have a hard time with that because I am such,

02:19:55.960 like, a, you know, like, go-for-women type of person.

02:19:58.340 But I have that traditional mindset of, like, you know, like, I want the guy to be the sole

02:20:02.740 provider if we're going to have, you know, like, a building of life together.

02:20:06.740 And that's just, unfortunately, like, in my brain, the way that-

02:20:09.640 But it's interesting.

02:20:10.720 Oh, hold on, guys.

02:20:12.800 Question for the women.

02:20:14.380 How often do you guys think about your moral values, and do you believe having moral values

02:20:18.600 are important when it comes to dating?

02:20:20.800 Thanks for the show, Brian.

02:20:22.560 Interesting to watch.

02:20:24.740 Thank you, Matt Lemons.

02:20:26.040 Appreciate it.

02:20:26.540 Do you want to do, like, a quick round?

02:20:27.900 What is the question?

02:20:29.360 How often do you guys think about your moral values?

02:20:31.760 How often do we think about them, and do we believe having them is important?

02:20:34.920 Like, 10-second answer to go.

02:20:36.400 Constantly.

02:20:36.840 I'm in- I'm ethical, non-monogamous, and so I'm constantly thinking about honesty and

02:20:41.800 morality within that dynamic.

02:20:43.500 100%.

02:20:44.660 I'm usually thinking about my morality unless I'm drinking tequila.

02:20:50.540 Girl.

02:20:55.400 The laugh of that.

02:20:57.500 What was the question?

02:21:00.440 How often do you think about your moral values?

02:21:03.040 Yeah, we just get to skip.

02:21:04.480 Whenever I'm at work.

02:21:08.020 Okay.

02:21:09.060 Because, you know, it's important to-

02:21:11.400 I think about them all the time.

02:21:13.660 I also think about it constantly, and I do think it's really important when it comes into

02:21:17.560 your dating life, because, like, let's be realistic.

02:21:19.940 You're only going to vibe with somebody or get along with somebody that you're in a relationship

02:21:23.580 with that has similar, if not the same, moral values as you.

02:21:26.880 Oh, are we talking about sex moral values?

02:21:28.340 No, no, no.

02:21:28.740 Well, it's just a-

02:21:29.560 Sorry.

02:21:30.040 Okay, so we were talking about courtship and what-

02:21:35.040 Traditional values.

02:21:35.700 So I can-

02:21:36.700 Oh, you were saying that you like a guy to pay for you, to do the traditional courtship.

02:21:41.100 But I have a question for you.

02:21:42.620 I mean, given some of the things you've told us, you don't strike me as a traditional woman.

02:21:48.200 Right.

02:21:48.440 Yet you expect or want traditional courtship from a man.

02:21:52.720 Right.

02:21:52.960 How do you reconcile that?

02:21:54.340 That's where I have, like, a dichotomy internally, like an internal dialogue, where I'm like,

02:21:58.960 I should- I don't know if it's the- I've grown up with a, you know, more traditional-minded

02:22:04.320 family, and that's just kind of been instilled in me, and my dad's a provider, so that's kind

02:22:08.500 of the way that I look at men as, you know, the strong provider character.

02:22:12.180 Yeah, I honestly- I haven't looked much insight into that, but you're- you're right.

02:22:17.780 Like, I'm not a traditional-

02:22:18.740 I mean, I have something to say.

02:22:19.840 Looking women, and I'm not a traditional-based women in that regard, but definitely when I

02:22:23.120 think when it comes to, like, being courted and courting others, I tend to take the more

02:22:27.460 traditional route.

02:22:29.340 I don't think there's anything wrong with that, and I say that even though I'm a woman that

02:22:33.080 tends to court men myself, I don't think there's anything wrong with that, because unfortunately,

02:22:38.260 we live in a society.

02:22:39.680 I'm so sorry.

02:22:40.320 I'm so sorry to do that.

02:22:41.400 I- but truly, truly, we live in a society where gender roles are established, and when

02:22:45.560 you're going on a first date with somebody, you don't know this person.

02:22:48.260 You don't know them at all, right?

02:22:49.860 That's, like, the whole point, and so you don't know their perspective on men, women,

02:22:54.060 dating, gender roles, and so it's almost like an initial test, because there are, unfortunately,

02:22:59.580 a lot of men who see how you behave on the first date and who pays, almost like a test,

02:23:04.880 and I've- I've talked to a lot of men that have said that if they pay for the date-

02:23:09.400 I mean, some men think it's a red flag, but a lot of men also say that they want to pay

02:23:14.740 for the first date, it, like, almost like as a sign of respect for the woman, or, like,

02:23:19.040 if a woman respects herself, that he'll pay.

02:23:22.160 I've heard that before, and I think that's interesting.

02:23:25.160 I mean, I would love your take on that, but-

02:23:27.500 I don't pay for the first date.

02:23:28.420 Okay.

02:23:29.160 I think that just really-

02:23:30.280 I'll split. I split.

02:23:31.180 I just-

02:23:31.400 Okay.

02:23:32.400 Yeah.

02:23:32.600 See, I think that just-

02:23:33.840 Wait, quickly.

02:23:34.460 Unless she's, like, in college or something.

02:23:36.560 Oh, sure.

02:23:37.260 Financial.

02:23:37.680 Even if you ask her-

02:23:38.480 If there's, like, a financial, huh?

02:23:40.240 That's exactly it, yeah.

02:23:40.820 Even if you're the one to prompt a date?

02:23:41.740 Yeah, if I say, hey, do you want to go grab a drink? Do you want to-

02:23:44.740 Well, I don't do dinner dates, but if I said, hey, do you want to go grab a drink?

02:23:47.200 Oh, well, that makes more sense if you don't do dinner dates.

02:23:48.460 Well, drinks are easier to split than dinner.

02:23:50.660 Brian, do you not like to court women?

02:23:53.360 I mean, it's a genuine question.

02:23:56.300 No.

02:23:56.900 No?

02:23:57.560 Would you prefer to be courted?

02:23:59.400 Oh.

02:24:00.820 I just say no courtship.

02:24:03.740 No courtship.

02:24:04.980 Just, you know, just let's hang out.

02:24:06.900 But I like that even in your answer, I really like that you acknowledge the financial difference

02:24:12.100 as being an aspect because I think that also plays into general.

02:24:14.620 Totally, yeah.

02:24:15.300 That, like, if you're in a position, and, I mean, maybe that's a power dynamic, right?

02:24:19.500 If you're in a position where you're financially better off than the woman you're seeing, I

02:24:22.960 like that you at least admit that you're like, I'd be happy paying, knowing that, like,

02:24:26.820 I'm way more well off than the person I'm going to date with.

02:24:29.540 Oh, well, yeah, I mean, that's-

02:24:30.460 That, I appreciate that.

02:24:31.240 Thank you.

02:24:31.440 Yeah, but I'm not, like, if I'm pursuing a woman and she's making 100K a year, she's a-

02:24:37.260 I've dated-

02:24:37.780 Okay.

02:24:37.960 I mean, I've dated a dentist.

02:24:39.300 I've dated more nurses than I can count.

02:24:40.860 I've dated, like, three attorneys.

02:24:43.760 I've dated a surgeon.

02:24:45.760 I've dated a doctor.

02:24:46.580 I've dated, like, they're making money.

02:24:48.840 Sure.

02:24:49.160 They can pay, you know, but if I'm dating someone who's a barista, or if I'm dating

02:24:54.080 a girl who's, you know, a college student or a grad student or something, then in those

02:24:59.840 situations, I'm more willing to pay, but there's another component, too.

02:25:04.020 If she's for the-

02:25:05.080 Well, if she's for the streets, I'm probably just not interested to begin with, but, like,

02:25:10.060 my take is, is that here's the thing.

02:25:14.660 Most women, I would just flat-out pay all the time if women were traditional.

02:25:20.700 I would adhere to my traditional gender roles under those circumstances, but the majority

02:25:25.180 of women-

02:25:25.720 Derek Manx, one super chatted, $49.99.

02:25:28.760 I don't get it.

02:25:30.800 Are you looking for an actual man, or are you looking for clients?

02:25:34.680 Oh, my God.

02:25:35.680 That is so funny.

02:25:36.360 Derek Manx, are you saying, are you saying that they're pandering?

02:25:40.880 That, you know what?

02:25:41.780 Are you saying that they're pandering?

02:25:43.200 I've seen this whole time.

02:25:44.660 Clients, I love that.

02:25:46.040 So, the majority of women, I'd say, are not traditional women, ergo, I don't feel obliged

02:25:52.080 to adhere to my traditional gender roles.

02:25:53.780 This sounds like a bigger concern to me.

02:25:55.000 This sounds like you are concerned of being manipulated.

02:25:58.140 Well, I don't want to be a sucker, is the thing.

02:26:00.280 You don't want to be manipulated.

02:26:01.380 That's a recurring theme.

02:26:02.000 That checks out to me.

02:26:04.260 And I would like to add that that comes back to the individualism.

02:26:08.400 That comes back to, it's a case-by-case basis, right?

02:26:12.320 I think where we start to get in trouble in the dating pool is generalizing too much, right?

02:26:18.860 We, all the women on this panel, have been constantly talking about individualism and

02:26:25.140 how everyone has a different experience with every person, but you two specifically keep

02:26:30.960 on saying, well, let's generalize, let's generalize.

02:26:33.920 And the thing is, well, can I finish?

02:26:35.800 Can I finish?

02:26:36.240 Go ahead.

02:26:36.540 And I understand, no, no, wait, I understand that the generalization is important.

02:26:41.320 I'm not saying that it's not, but I'm saying when you constantly think about the generalization,

02:26:46.820 it's going to hinder you from individually connecting with a person.

02:26:51.060 That's all I wanted to say.

02:26:53.260 And, yes.

02:26:54.280 I don't usually generalize.

02:26:55.820 I always say, like, women are in different categories.

02:26:58.940 You know what I'm saying?

02:26:59.520 So I have a radar where I can look at a woman and know, like, I'm not going to pay for her

02:27:04.060 because she's already expecting it.

02:27:05.740 Okay.

02:27:06.160 This kind of woman, she's more traditional.

02:27:07.940 So, like, fuck it.

02:27:09.080 I'll pay for her.

02:27:10.120 And then the other woman is just like, I'm not even going to go out on a date with them.

02:27:14.240 I'm just going to invite them to the crib.

02:27:16.100 What's the difference between traditional and expecting it?

02:27:18.540 Because isn't traditional values expecting the man to pay for you?

02:27:21.100 Yeah, that's a good question.

02:27:22.680 Like, what do you mean by expecting it?

02:27:24.380 And also, I also wanted to ask you, isn't putting people in categories generalizing them

02:27:28.540 as well?

02:27:29.160 So it's still like a generalization.

02:27:30.400 She just said individualism.

02:27:31.980 Yeah, yeah.

02:27:32.600 But when you place women in a category, you're generalizing them to that category.

02:27:37.080 Because I've seen every single type of woman.

02:27:39.380 I have a very diverse perspective.

02:27:42.020 I'm probably the only guy who's literally been with every race and every type of culture.

02:27:46.780 Well, don't speak too fast.

02:27:49.800 Have you ever been with an asexual don?

02:27:51.800 Do you have a punch card?

02:27:52.740 No, I'm not talking about like, you guys.

02:27:55.400 Oh, okay, okay.

02:27:56.280 I see, I see.

02:27:57.540 Yeah, so I've seen everything.

02:27:59.460 So if she's the type of woman who she's hella bougie and shit like that, like, I'm not going

02:28:04.620 to pay for her because she's expecting it.

02:28:07.940 You know what I'm saying?

02:28:08.460 I don't like that.

02:28:09.180 Again, you're afraid to be a woman?

02:28:10.180 I agree with what he said where it's like, those type of bougie women, you already know that

02:28:14.100 they're expecting some shit.

02:28:15.300 So I'm not going to be the sucker to do that shit.

02:28:17.380 So it comes down to the manipulation factor of like, you don't want to be a

02:28:19.800 You don't want to be manipulated when you go off on the first date.

02:28:21.980 It's not about not wanting to be manipulated.

02:28:23.580 It's just that you can peep shit from like a wide angle and just see like, she's not

02:28:28.300 the one to do it with.

02:28:30.020 Why?

02:28:30.860 Peep it.

02:28:31.340 I just told you.

02:28:32.220 Because you're afraid she'll take advantage of you.

02:28:34.500 Why are you guys saying like, afraid she'll take, she will take advantage of you.

02:28:38.120 Okay.

02:28:38.300 And that's manipulation.

02:28:39.580 Well, that's what you're, that's what you're trying to avoid, right?

02:28:42.180 That's the whole point.

02:28:43.300 That's what we're saying.

02:28:43.900 So in my case, how me and Brian were talking about how I have like a more kind of traditional

02:28:48.040 value in that mindset, but like, I don't present as a, you know, like traditional, traditional

02:28:52.760 wait, what girl, what's the body count again?

02:28:55.460 Too much, too high for you to count.

02:28:56.920 Close to mine.

02:28:57.660 Um, how would you like approach this?

02:29:00.960 Like hypothetically, how would you approach the situation?

02:29:02.140 That's what I'm saying.

02:29:02.640 I have a radar.

02:29:03.640 So from the first moment I saw you, like, I know like what type of woman you are.

02:29:09.100 Wait, can we actually, if you feel comfortable, I would really be interested.

02:29:12.260 And if anybody else is comfortable, I'd love to be red.

02:29:15.380 I know.

02:29:16.180 Go for it.

02:29:17.960 Okay.

02:29:18.320 So I already knew you, uh, like, could I tell her about smoking?

02:29:24.820 Smoking?

02:29:25.760 Outside.

02:29:26.440 Oh yeah.

02:29:26.920 Cause I, we were smoking.

02:29:28.120 Oh yeah.

02:29:28.380 So I pull up and like, she's smoking a J outside.

02:29:31.440 So I'm like already like, okay.

02:29:33.540 Yeah.

02:29:33.860 She's probably promiscuous.

02:29:35.780 Um, wait, I'm sorry.

02:29:38.280 What?

02:29:38.620 That's the stupidest assumption I've ever heard.

02:29:40.980 I was trying to calm my nerves, but okay.

02:29:45.660 You heard it here.

02:29:46.500 Don't smoke weed or you're a whore.

02:29:48.040 You're a slut.

02:29:49.180 Don't you dare.

02:29:50.700 You filthy whore.

02:29:52.180 No more marijuana.

02:29:53.900 Hold on.

02:29:54.460 Let me play this stupid soundboard thing.

02:29:56.260 I used to do drugs.

02:29:57.640 I still do.

02:29:58.560 But I used to too.

02:30:00.000 I used to too.

02:30:01.160 So, okay.

02:30:03.040 She's a drug user.

02:30:04.340 And no, but it's not, it's not, it's not, that's a very, that's not what he said.

02:30:07.420 No, no, no, no.

02:30:08.220 Yeah.

02:30:08.380 We asked her to read us.

02:30:09.360 We asked her to read us.

02:30:10.760 Guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys.

02:30:12.040 Hold on.

02:30:12.580 The radar isn't just the drug use.

02:30:14.760 It's just, I can look at a woman and within like three or four seconds, know what type of

02:30:19.000 woman she is.

02:30:19.520 Was it the armpit hair?

02:30:19.940 Can you show the armpit hair again?

02:30:21.100 Yeah.

02:30:21.300 That one too.

02:30:22.020 Like off top, I'm already knowing.

02:30:24.280 So, uh, the cosplay girls, low key, uh, you just know, you know, I didn't know it was

02:30:31.240 going to be like 300 bodies, but I'm going to be real.

02:30:33.900 It was probably like a hundred or something like that.

02:30:37.700 Wait, can you guys do an uwu really quick separately?

02:30:40.580 Smartest man in the world.

02:30:41.760 Super chatted $49.99.

02:30:47.020 You literally cost more than you're within your loud devotee against.

02:30:51.380 Tax, or draft me without any consequence to you.

02:30:55.000 Why do I have to die to protect and fund you?

02:30:57.440 Pull it up, Eric.

02:30:58.340 Fund your early fans career.

02:31:00.220 Are you a soldier?

02:31:01.240 Pull it up.

02:31:01.480 Pull it up.

02:31:02.140 Pull it up.

02:31:03.020 Um, why do I have to die to protect?

02:31:05.240 Oh, hide it.

02:31:06.140 Hide it.

02:31:08.200 You know what traditional means.

02:31:10.820 Stop capping and gaslighting.

02:31:12.820 You don't get to act like a 300 for them once you get treated like a lady.

02:31:16.740 Traditional equals low body count.

02:31:18.980 Feminine.

02:31:19.780 Non-combative.

02:31:20.500 Non-combative.

02:31:21.720 Non-combative.

02:31:22.840 See, that's where I think I disagree.

02:31:24.720 Submissive.

02:31:25.580 Doesn't argue.

02:31:26.960 Let's me tell her what to do.

02:31:28.600 I love that in a woman.

02:31:30.180 I just want to control her.

02:31:32.640 God, that's so sad.

02:31:33.560 I think a client comes from like, you know, traditional.

02:31:36.080 I think all of these guys need a hug.

02:31:37.880 Yeah, you guys need some love.

02:31:39.240 I get plenty of hugs.

02:31:40.440 We don't need a hug.

02:31:41.060 No, no, you guys need some love.

02:31:44.940 These guys in the chat, they're all chads.

02:31:48.600 Yeah.

02:31:48.800 You guys need some love.

02:31:50.400 Chad's cool.

02:31:51.220 Don't worry about chads.

02:31:52.160 I'm not into chads, so that's okay.

02:31:53.980 But in all fairness, we did ask you to read us.

02:31:55.820 Continue.

02:31:56.220 I'll just do her.

02:31:58.500 She's the last one.

02:31:59.660 Oh, yeah.

02:32:00.300 I don't know.

02:32:01.080 She was smoking with me, by the way.

02:32:02.640 So are you making the same as that?

02:32:03.820 Well, I didn't see her smoke.

02:32:04.740 Oh, that's so BS.

02:32:05.720 Get out of here.

02:32:05.760 I just saw the tat on the tricep, and I've dealt with like 20 girls who have tats on

02:32:10.400 the tricep, so I automatically know.

02:32:11.720 You want to know what's hilarious, though?

02:32:13.620 This is actually a tribute tat.

02:32:15.080 This is a tribute for my grandparents.

02:32:16.180 Well, I don't know it's a tribute.

02:32:17.780 Yeah, exactly.

02:32:18.200 I'm just looking at the rows.

02:32:19.880 And just the placement.

02:32:21.120 Like, what if I put it back here?

02:32:22.680 Because, I mean, I work with children, and so some parents don't really like tattoos.

02:32:26.740 Well, within the first 30 seconds, do I know that you work with children?

02:32:29.440 No, but that's what I'm saying, is that you're already, in the first three to four seconds,

02:32:33.640 you're putting this label on a person.

02:32:35.360 Because 99% of the time is right.

02:32:37.520 99?

02:32:38.120 I would say 85.

02:32:39.120 Do you find it valuable?

02:32:39.920 Well, you just said that you have a 20 body count, right?

02:32:42.600 Yeah, but what did you think I had?

02:32:44.480 You thought I had what?

02:32:45.860 I thought I was going to be like 15, 17.

02:32:48.160 15, 17.

02:32:48.600 That's so close to 20.

02:32:49.620 That's three away.

02:32:51.540 That's what I just said.

02:32:52.680 I can tell by my radar that it's close to 20.

02:32:55.660 But just because I had a tricep tattoo.

02:32:57.880 I told you it's the whole aura.

02:32:59.240 Can I ask you a question?

02:33:00.380 Yeah.

02:33:00.580 Like an actual genuine question, right?

02:33:04.580 Do you feel like it's hard for you to connect with women that you actually enjoy the company of?

02:33:10.780 No.

02:33:11.580 No.

02:33:12.160 Okay.

02:33:12.460 So you feel like the pool of women that you've created for yourself by setting your standards,

02:33:17.580 which is totally up to you, is good?

02:33:21.040 I just say yeah.

02:33:21.920 Okay.

02:33:22.560 I just wanted to ask.

02:33:23.580 Okay.

02:33:26.080 I have a question for you.

02:33:27.500 Sure.

02:33:28.080 So would you, do you have a facial hair preference for men?

02:33:31.880 Like beards, no beards?

02:33:33.520 It's funny when you say that because I haven't, but my partner has a beard and I'm into it.

02:33:39.560 But like for example, some women prefer a guy clean shaven, some women like beards, some women don't care.

02:33:46.340 Actually, you know what it is?

02:33:47.740 It is as long as you're maintaining it in like a nice way, you know?

02:33:52.620 Like your beard is like nicely maintained.

02:33:55.220 Like it could use like a little bit of a liner.

02:33:57.400 It's actually pretty nice.

02:33:58.080 Oh, a liner.

02:33:59.000 It's clean.

02:33:59.720 It's clean.

02:34:00.420 It's not straggle.

02:34:01.120 You know what I mean?

02:34:01.740 Like it's nice.

02:34:02.900 You looked in the mirror and you brushed it this morning.

02:34:04.880 I guarantee.

02:34:05.640 It doesn't look like pubes is what you're trying to say.

02:34:07.480 Yes.

02:34:07.600 Thank you.

02:34:07.640 Yes.

02:34:08.180 I was trying to be nice about it.

02:34:09.600 It doesn't look like pubes.

02:34:10.380 It looks great.

02:34:11.020 Oh, okay.

02:34:11.660 All right.

02:34:12.000 Yeah.

02:34:12.180 Basically, but what I'm saying is like if you have a dude that has like a mustache that's like very clearly overgrown or like aftershave that's like, you know, five o'clock shadow that he's like not taking care of his like skin.

02:34:23.820 I work in Durham.

02:34:24.940 Skin and hair.

02:34:25.440 Derpington 7-0 and super chatted $50.

02:34:28.520 I didn't say submissive or manipulating.

02:34:30.800 You ate into that yourself anyways.

02:34:33.080 It says a lot about you that if someone is non-compative to you, it equates to them being submissive slashy doormat.

02:34:39.460 Yo, Derpington.

02:34:40.620 Thank you.

02:34:40.900 Pennywise is so sexy, guys.

02:34:44.260 I just, God.

02:34:45.680 Pennywise gets me.

02:34:47.640 Okay.

02:34:48.280 I might be asexual, but Pennywise can get it.

02:34:50.960 Oh.

02:34:51.180 A little Skarsgård-ass clown thing, my guy.

02:34:54.420 Get to me.

02:34:56.660 The klussy power is too strong.

02:34:59.040 The klussy power.

02:34:59.620 Klussy power.

02:35:00.480 Be klussy.

02:35:00.920 Klussy power.

02:35:01.400 You know what I'm saying?

02:35:02.400 Wait.

02:35:02.760 So just to finish.

02:35:03.440 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:35:04.100 Just to finish this off.

02:35:04.900 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:35:05.220 So have you ever, because you do have the underarm hair.

02:35:08.180 Can you show it again really quick?

02:35:09.180 Just because it's.

02:35:09.800 They're really on that.

02:35:10.540 I guess so.

02:35:11.560 Do women not do this often?

02:35:12.720 In Europe they do.

02:35:13.700 If, like, you met a guy and you liked him and he didn't, he was nice about it, but he

02:35:18.460 was like, hey, would you be willing, he was polite, but he's like, hey, would you be willing

02:35:22.260 to shave your underarm hair?

02:35:23.540 You know.

02:35:23.820 Would you be like, would you be pissed off at him or would you?

02:35:26.900 I wouldn't really date somebody who would ask me to do that?

02:35:29.280 Oh, okay.

02:35:30.580 I think.

02:35:31.220 This is the fall of society.

02:35:32.920 I, I, but why?

02:35:34.360 Because a woman is allowed to have autonomy over her body hair?

02:35:37.960 That's the fall of society to do?

02:35:40.120 Is that I like my own body autonomy and if somebody told, it's okay.

02:35:44.560 Like, honestly, it's like, it's the same thing as like guys telling that they like women

02:35:49.140 to be fully Brazilian waxed.

02:35:51.020 I will not date somebody who tells me that.

02:35:53.240 Um, I, he's automatically off of like my list of approved because I think that having somebody

02:35:59.220 tell you what you should do with your own body isn't right.

02:36:02.980 And like, if that's your preference, that's fine, but I'm not going to give, I'll tell

02:36:06.140 you one thing on the beard thing.

02:36:07.580 I think almost the past of the past partners I've had in the, cause I've only been growing

02:36:14.180 a beard for like maybe a year, a year or so, you know, I trim it or whatever, but almost

02:36:20.640 every single girl, one girl said she liked it.

02:36:23.500 Almost every single girl has been very vocal about them not liking facial hair.

02:36:28.920 I like my partner's beard.

02:36:30.020 I think really what it is is like.

02:36:31.880 But I'm not, I'm not offended by it.

02:36:33.440 I'm just like, tough luck.

02:36:35.380 I mean, it's personal preference.

02:36:37.120 Exactly.

02:36:37.620 And it's not fair for you to get rid of it.

02:36:39.340 Yeah.

02:36:39.820 No, but I don't get, I'm not like upset.

02:36:41.780 Oh, I see what you're saying.

02:36:42.580 I'm not triggered.

02:36:43.360 Well, why would I not want it?

02:36:44.800 So I think the difference is, and you know what?

02:36:47.220 Maybe, maybe in a setting where it is more polite, I might be a little more open to it,

02:36:52.160 but you know, I'm not going to lie.

02:36:53.780 A lot of my experience with male relationships, uh, before, you know, I was before the pandemic,

02:37:00.620 before I was having fun was really abusive.

02:37:03.580 I was very controlled and I was, I was living with him.

02:37:08.640 And so like a lot of, uh, where I am strong in my convictions comes from where I was oppressed

02:37:17.240 before.

02:37:18.360 Oppressed?

02:37:18.840 That's a strong, that's a strong word.

02:37:22.180 Couldn't you have left the relationship?

02:37:23.320 Oh my God.

02:37:23.900 So yeah.

02:37:24.300 I think that that goes like in a, you know, that's just a totally different territory.

02:37:27.600 Cause there, there are lots of different places where you can definitely.

02:37:29.940 Let's not get into that.

02:37:31.000 Yeah.

02:37:31.280 It's very clear.

02:37:32.980 Okay.

02:37:33.400 Yeah.

02:37:33.600 Yeah.

02:37:33.740 Yeah.

02:37:33.900 Let's, uh, let's get back to the super chats.

02:37:37.160 But before we do the super chats, we have our good friends.

02:37:40.120 Stop it.

02:37:40.860 Oh, what?

02:37:41.460 Good to know.

02:37:41.960 That is, whoops, hold on.

02:37:44.060 Let me stop.

02:37:45.120 Okay.

02:37:46.000 We're still figuring that one out.

02:37:47.300 Um, ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of one to 10 and we're going to start

02:37:52.660 with you.

02:37:53.320 Go ahead.

02:37:54.260 Why are we starting with me?

02:37:55.460 We've been starting over there.

02:37:56.640 Let's not.

02:37:57.320 Go ahead.

02:37:57.620 No, I'm going to just say that if we're going to start, no, we have the girls go first,

02:38:02.320 then we'll give ours.

02:38:03.180 Okay.

02:38:03.880 Ladies first.

02:38:04.820 I mean, I don't, I don't really like to gauge myself on a one to 10 basis.

02:38:09.520 I think that your physical appearance, we're talking physical appearance again, I'm talking

02:38:14.220 physical appearance.

02:38:15.000 I feel like my look could be a 10 to a lot of different people, but my look could also

02:38:18.840 Generally speaking.

02:38:20.500 There is no generally speaking.

02:38:21.820 What's the first number that comes to you?

02:38:23.860 No, no, no, no.

02:38:24.540 Hold on.

02:38:24.880 Eight to a 10 is my general gauge is that I will give myself.

02:38:27.920 I think I'm anywhere from an eight to a 10.

02:38:30.040 I think when I get myself all dolled up, I'm a fucking 10.

02:38:32.520 I know I'm a fucking 10.

02:38:33.300 Okay.

02:38:33.660 Regardless of what it is.

02:38:34.800 But I also think that I could look like a fucking 10 and somebody out there could be like, damn,

02:38:38.720 she got three.

02:38:39.900 Yeah.

02:38:40.280 Who gives a fuck?

02:38:40.980 But okay.

02:38:42.140 Forget about what other people would rate you.

02:38:45.040 What is your self-assessment?

02:38:47.420 My self-assessment would be a 10.

02:38:49.320 Yes, that would be my self-assessment.

02:38:51.120 I think I'm a very pretty girl.

02:38:51.920 I will not be giving one.

02:38:53.760 What?

02:38:54.920 Because honestly, I, okay, I told you before that I grew up as a fat kid, right?

02:39:00.900 I've always been the fat girl.

02:39:02.320 I've always had to deal with that.

02:39:03.580 And I've had plenty of self-esteem issues.

02:39:05.600 There are some days where I feel really good about my appearance and there are some days where

02:39:08.920 I feel bad.

02:39:09.800 It's the same thing.

02:39:10.660 But I will not limit myself to a one to 10 scale because I know that I have more to offer

02:39:15.620 than my appearance.

02:39:16.880 So why don't you just say 10?

02:39:18.780 Because it's insulting.

02:39:20.000 Because I don't want to give myself a number.

02:39:21.740 Because I think limiting myself to a number is so disrespectful.

02:39:25.240 How is a 10 limiting yourself?

02:39:27.120 Because I might have more to offer.

02:39:29.300 A 10 out of 10 means 100%.

02:39:31.440 There's no...

02:39:32.280 But I don't like playing into that narrative of rating on a number.

02:39:35.380 And so I won't be giving myself one.

02:39:36.920 I agree.

02:39:37.360 I'm going to be honest.

02:39:38.260 I don't want to grow up with like body energy issues.

02:39:39.600 Okay.

02:39:39.640 We're going to...

02:39:40.460 Okay.

02:39:40.940 You're omitting.

02:39:42.000 That's...

02:39:42.540 Okay.

02:39:43.020 Go ahead.

02:39:44.300 I concur.

02:39:45.520 I grew up being an ugly duckling and...

02:39:48.300 Okay.

02:39:48.540 Just...

02:39:49.140 Are you omitting or do you want to rate yourself?

02:39:51.400 I do omit.

02:39:51.980 It's fine.

02:39:52.620 You don't want to rate yourself?

02:39:53.800 No.

02:39:54.460 If I did, I would be a 10.

02:39:55.900 But I just don't really like the whole concept.

02:39:58.420 Why not?

02:39:59.820 Because literally you...

02:40:01.220 It's so subjective.

02:40:02.520 And it's also like...

02:40:03.520 It boils down what we...

02:40:05.960 So here's a great example.

02:40:07.260 When I was in seventh grade, we found a list of the boys, one through 10, where we were

02:40:12.860 all rated.

02:40:14.180 That has stuck with me my whole life.

02:40:15.900 So like I don't really like the feeling.

02:40:18.800 It gives me the literal ick feeling from when I was sad and alone when I was 12.

02:40:24.060 So sorry.

02:40:24.920 No.

02:40:25.480 I...

02:40:25.800 Yeah.

02:40:27.240 Would you like to rate yourself?

02:40:28.640 Fucking 12.

02:40:29.500 But if I had to pick, if I had to pick on this atrocious scale, I'd be a 10.

02:40:34.960 An 8 on a bad day.

02:40:36.560 Yeah.

02:40:37.420 Okay.

02:40:40.260 Okay.

02:40:41.220 Would you like to rate yourself?

02:40:43.300 Absolutely not.

02:40:44.660 Yeah.

02:40:45.060 I think it's an objectifying question and I refuse to answer that.

02:40:49.560 I think it's silly.

02:40:51.080 Mm-hmm.

02:40:51.660 It's...

02:40:52.420 I would never ask a man that.

02:40:54.200 Never.

02:40:54.260 And I would also never put a man on that scale.

02:40:56.440 That's so true.

02:40:57.240 Yeah.

02:40:57.680 Absolutely.

02:40:58.120 I don't think you guys do it subconsciously though.

02:40:59.900 No.

02:41:00.340 Absolutely not.

02:41:01.240 Totally not.

02:41:01.880 I do.

02:41:02.280 I do.

02:41:02.720 I do.

02:41:02.960 Yeah.

02:41:03.140 Like what are we talking about?

02:41:04.320 Like the way you go after a guy is based off his attractiveness.

02:41:08.060 No, it's not.

02:41:09.260 Attractiveness doesn't just mean...

02:41:10.740 The smartest man in the world super chatted $49.99.

02:41:14.940 I don't think someone who's had 300 different people inside their body eye in 21 years should

02:41:20.020 be criticizing another person's personal hygiene.

02:41:23.140 You're not to believe you.

02:41:24.700 My first impression slash read on them was...

02:41:27.460 God, people are not paying attention.

02:41:29.460 What does he mean?

02:41:29.880 No.

02:41:30.420 Hold on.

02:41:30.760 Pull it up.

02:41:31.160 Wait, when were we insulting personal hygiene?

02:41:32.380 Hold on.

02:41:32.760 Pull it up.

02:41:33.320 I don't know.

02:41:33.760 The smartest man in the world is not very smart.

02:41:35.640 Ooh-ooh.

02:41:36.280 You're not ooh-ooh.

02:41:37.180 You're ooh-ooh.

02:41:38.060 Ooh-ooh.

02:41:38.660 Oh my God.

02:41:39.760 Ooh-ooh.

02:41:40.740 Ooh-ooh.

02:41:41.180 My first impression read on them was not a bunch of Schopenhauer scholars.

02:41:46.400 Okay.

02:41:47.000 What?

02:41:48.060 LOL.

02:41:49.400 Okay.

02:41:49.880 Wait, wait.

02:41:50.400 But can I ask, criticizing another person's personal hygiene?

02:41:55.540 What was that about?

02:41:56.280 We're talking about the armpit hair, but we're not certainly about it.

02:41:58.440 For someone that's criticizing your intelligence, it's very hilarious that he's not on topic

02:42:03.920 at all.

02:42:04.540 So like, okay, all right.

02:42:06.640 Get it, buddy.

02:42:07.480 So you guys said you're not comfortable rating yourselves because you don't want to do a

02:42:13.480 self-assessment, right?

02:42:14.800 This is an insulting question.

02:42:16.440 Well, I don't think it's insulting, and I'll tell you why in a sec, but would you guys be...

02:42:20.560 If I were to reframe the question as, what do you think, if you lined up 100 men, what

02:42:25.380 do you think they would rate your physical appearance?

02:42:27.220 That would be even worse.

02:42:28.280 Yeah.

02:42:28.620 That would be horrible.

02:42:28.960 That's like literally significantly worse.

02:42:30.380 So subjective.

02:42:30.760 That is so demeaning.

02:42:32.420 I don't know how to rate myself.

02:42:33.320 Okay.

02:42:33.720 I want to ask you...

02:42:34.440 I'm going to get into the rating thing here in just a little bit.

02:42:37.520 Do any of you...

02:42:39.120 We'll start with you again.

02:42:41.760 Would you date a guy who's shorter than you?

02:42:45.000 Yes.

02:42:45.920 I have before, actually.

02:42:48.240 My first boyfriend was...

02:42:49.280 Stop the cat.

02:42:50.080 Okay.

02:42:50.560 Go ahead.

02:42:51.320 Would you date a guy...

02:42:52.880 Do any of you...

02:42:53.980 Hold on.

02:42:55.200 Do any of you have a height preference for men?

02:42:57.620 Oh, yes.

02:42:58.560 I mean, like...

02:42:59.140 Do you have a height preference for men?

02:43:00.540 Yes, I do.

02:43:01.500 I...

02:43:01.780 So you would prefer to date a man who's tall?

02:43:03.840 How tall?

02:43:04.400 I go for usually five, nine, and up.

02:43:07.100 And how tall are you?

02:43:07.840 I'm five, six.

02:43:08.760 Okay.

02:43:08.980 I like to have like a couple inches.

02:43:10.640 But not to say that I have not dated people who are shorter than me.

02:43:16.060 But you have a preference for a guy who's taller.

02:43:18.180 What about you?

02:43:18.640 I do have a height preference.

02:43:20.600 How tall are you?

02:43:21.460 And what's your preference?

02:43:22.560 I'm five, eight.

02:43:23.560 And as long as they're like five, six and up, I'm cool with that.

02:43:29.120 So shorter than you and up?

02:43:31.400 Yeah.

02:43:31.840 Well, here's the thing, right?

02:43:32.900 I don't think I could see myself dating somebody who's not five foot, right?

02:43:38.040 If we're talking about that spectrum.

02:43:39.540 Let me reframe it.

02:43:40.300 Your future long-term life partner husband.

02:43:43.100 Uh-huh.

02:43:43.440 What is his height?

02:43:44.920 Who knows?

02:43:45.580 Well, are...

02:43:46.720 Are we all assuming that everyone is like heteronormative here?

02:43:51.280 Because I think that queerness adds like a huge aspect to height.

02:43:54.780 Absolutely.

02:43:55.400 Okay, but regardless of their gender...

02:43:57.500 What?

02:43:58.120 Yeah.

02:43:58.740 No, because when you're queer...

02:43:59.760 Gay people exist.

02:44:00.660 Gay people need more range, you know?

02:44:03.280 Okay.

02:44:03.960 We'll keep it moving.

02:44:05.100 Do you have a height preference?

02:44:06.320 Is that funny?

02:44:06.720 Why is that funny?

02:44:07.940 It's funny because I don't even know what heteronormative means.

02:44:11.140 Well, we're a dating coach that doesn't understand what heteronormative means.

02:44:15.700 Well, I coach men who like women.

02:44:17.300 Google it.

02:44:17.720 Well, so that's heteronormative.

02:44:18.880 That's what heteronormative is.

02:44:20.060 Okay, so heteronormative means...

02:44:22.400 So, like, you're heterosexual, right?

02:44:24.500 And so you are a man who is generally attracted to a woman.

02:44:28.480 And the general narrative, when we're talking about dating and corn or whatever else, is heteronormative,

02:44:35.640 which means that the norm is to talk about a man who loves a woman.

02:44:38.840 That's what we're talking about.

02:44:39.460 That is what it means.

02:44:41.140 And so she's just simply trying to add that, you know...

02:44:44.000 Queerness adds an aspect.

02:44:45.180 Yes.

02:44:45.620 There is a different aspect that is added when it's people of the same genders dating or if

02:44:50.740 they identify differently.

02:44:51.860 Yeah.

02:44:52.300 But I'm saying that regardless of gender, five, like, you know, at least like...

02:44:58.520 Yep, you already answered that.

02:44:59.600 Go ahead.

02:45:00.160 I'm five one and a half.

02:45:01.720 So literally almost everyone is taller than me.

02:45:05.240 Okay.

02:45:06.360 Do you have a height preference?

02:45:07.640 I mean...

02:45:08.240 Would you date a guy who's 4'11"?

02:45:10.320 That's exceedingly rare.

02:45:12.180 It would be really hard to find him.

02:45:13.140 Let's assume that there are men...

02:45:14.680 Let's assume...

02:45:15.640 Well, there are men that short, but...

02:45:16.600 I'm sure there's men that short.

02:45:17.860 I know.

02:45:18.160 I mean...

02:45:18.280 Would you date a guy who's 4'11"?

02:45:19.920 If I liked him.

02:45:21.000 Yeah.

02:45:21.600 Would you be more attracted to a guy who's six feet?

02:45:24.280 I mean, maybe.

02:45:25.180 It depends.

02:45:25.700 Honestly, I'm, like, more attracted to personality than looks.

02:45:28.780 All things being equal, would you prefer a guy to be taller?

02:45:33.640 Not necessarily.

02:45:34.640 No.

02:45:35.360 So if given an option between two people, everything the same, one guy...

02:45:39.720 That's not possible.

02:45:40.600 Are they twins?

02:45:41.800 Just entertain the hypothetical.

02:45:44.640 One guy's 5'2", the other guy's 5'9".

02:45:47.600 Mm-hmm.

02:45:48.580 Which one would you prefer?

02:45:49.800 Depends on how well they're men.

02:45:50.780 Okay, moving on.

02:45:51.520 Go ahead.

02:45:51.920 I do have a height preference.

02:45:53.380 I'm 5'6", and I prefer to date men who are over six feet.

02:45:58.120 I have dated a short guy, and it was just not for me.

02:46:00.560 I couldn't wear platforms.

02:46:01.080 Okay, I appreciate that answer.

02:46:02.520 Okay, go ahead.

02:46:03.320 That's what you were looking for.

02:46:04.640 I am 5'8".

02:46:06.220 Full disclosure, I wish I was 6'5".

02:46:09.340 I love shorter men.

02:46:10.920 My partner is 5'5", and every day I wish he was smaller so I could carry him like a baby.

02:46:15.480 I love this mommy energy.

02:46:19.560 Mommy baby energy.

02:46:23.900 What are the clowns using?

02:46:26.280 Klessy power.

02:46:27.640 Klessy power.

02:46:28.840 Do you guys have a height preference?

02:46:30.320 Yeah.

02:46:31.040 Yeah, if her height doesn't start with 4', she ain't the one.

02:46:34.740 Oh, 4.

02:46:36.020 Damn.

02:46:36.320 Wait, how tall are you?

02:46:38.060 I'm 6'1".

02:46:39.060 Do you want to be able to grab a shower across the room?

02:46:41.700 We have the same mindset, and I love that.

02:46:43.380 Jokes aside, I don't care about height, really.

02:46:47.080 I'll date a woman who's taller than me, 6'5", don't care.

02:46:51.000 I'll date a girl who's legally a dwarf.

02:46:53.920 So why were you pushing me?

02:46:55.000 But I do have a preference for short, petite women, but ultimately don't care.

02:47:01.360 If she's attractive, it doesn't really matter.

02:47:02.360 That's exactly how we feel.

02:47:03.680 That's exactly what we're saying.

02:47:04.800 Cool.

02:47:04.900 Okay, the...

02:47:05.720 He can quantitate it.

02:47:07.180 I want to hear Rack's preference.

02:47:08.940 Do you have a height preference?

02:47:10.100 Oh, yeah.

02:47:10.520 You're 6'5", right?

02:47:11.740 6'4".

02:47:12.300 6'4", okay.

02:47:13.060 I can't date women who are shorter than, like, 5'3", so...

02:47:16.860 You're missing out, dude.

02:47:18.320 No, I tried it.

02:47:20.840 I had an ex who was 5'2", and it was just, like...

02:47:25.300 I understand.

02:47:26.580 It's like you're talking like this to her.

02:47:28.360 Honestly, though, height also does affect intercourse.

02:47:31.700 That's true.

02:47:31.860 That is very true.

02:47:33.060 That was the problem.

02:47:33.740 So I get that.

02:47:34.740 Yeah, I get that.

02:47:36.040 Brian's like, don't talk to me about it.

02:47:37.320 But you know what?

02:47:37.880 They sell special pillows for that, for the height difference.

02:47:40.520 Thank you.

02:47:40.980 I'll just let you know right now.

02:47:43.260 They sell pillows for height difference.

02:47:44.440 Okay, so...

02:47:44.880 I can give you links.

02:47:46.340 So the reason I asked about height is because we were talking about this rating system.

02:47:53.300 You guys objected to rating someone on a 1 to 10 scale.

02:47:56.440 Now, most of you happen to be outliers in this regard, whether you're being totally forthcoming

02:48:02.440 in terms of your height preferences.

02:48:04.960 I don't know.

02:48:05.500 I'll take you guys' word for it.

02:48:07.380 With that said, with the exception of you, you guys are outliers.

02:48:11.600 The majority of women have a preference for taller men.

02:48:15.720 Women will judge men based off of their height.

02:48:19.420 That is a numerical measurement, quite literally a numerical measurement.

02:48:24.480 I've heard this, yeah.

02:48:25.220 Yeah, so you guys object to this rating scale because it's somehow reducing women, I don't

02:48:33.360 really think it is, because you can rate men on a 1 to 10 scale too, to some sort of numerical

02:48:38.920 value, reducing women to a numerical value.

02:48:41.540 But we all make judgment calls about someone's physical appearance.

02:48:47.200 It could be their body.

02:48:47.960 It could be their face.

02:48:48.680 It could be the symmetry.

02:48:49.640 It could be various characteristics.

02:48:51.480 And generally speaking, if you lined up 100 men, most of them can come to a reasonable

02:48:57.500 assessment and consensus about a woman's physical appearance.

02:49:01.580 And they can assign a numerical number, as can women assign a numerical number about a man's

02:49:08.020 physical appearance.

02:49:09.320 I'm sure we've heard of this game on TikTok.

02:49:11.300 He's a 10, but he blah, blah, blah.

02:49:13.440 He wears flip-flops, some bullshit like that.

02:49:15.280 Oh, he's a 6.

02:49:16.020 Whatever.

02:49:16.700 So we use these terms, these rating terms, right?

02:49:20.200 So there's something about, okay, well, I missed that part.

02:49:27.140 But so you guys object to this rating thing, but you guys are outliers about the height thing,

02:49:36.260 whatever.

02:49:36.840 But most women have a height preference for men, whereas most men don't give a fuck about

02:49:42.700 women's height, generally speaking.

02:49:45.220 Personal preference.

02:49:46.380 But couldn't we say that men have a preference on weight?

02:49:48.600 I feel like weight-

02:49:49.800 As do women.

02:49:51.300 Yes, men do.

02:49:52.580 The reality, though, is that the average man doesn't have a preference on weight.

02:49:57.740 I've seen dudes who are like-

02:49:59.780 I think it really just comes down back to personal preference, guys, and this idea of generalization.

02:50:06.480 I think that's really what-

02:50:08.280 I'm talking about, I'm a dating coach.

02:50:10.920 I deal with guys all around the world.

02:50:13.740 Yes.

02:50:14.060 So, like, guys, when it comes to weight, there will be a guy who's a 7 or 8, and he'll be

02:50:19.080 dealing with a girl who's, like, 5'3", 210 pounds.

02:50:22.580 Okay.

02:50:23.720 And-

02:50:24.160 And?

02:50:24.880 What do you mean, and?

02:50:25.900 When-

02:50:26.340 What did I like to that?

02:50:27.460 You guys just said-

02:50:27.760 Finish the sentence.

02:50:28.760 But, okay, just really quick.

02:50:30.100 You were talking about generalities that we're generalizing, and this is somehow wrong.

02:50:34.820 Can I ask you a question?

02:50:36.000 Yes.

02:50:36.600 How many fingers does a human have?

02:50:40.500 10.

02:50:40.880 How many toes does a human have?

02:50:43.520 Generally.

02:50:44.060 Yeah, 10.

02:50:45.620 Well, that's what I was getting to.

02:50:47.060 I get it.

02:50:47.600 There are some humans that are born with an extra digit.

02:50:50.700 Mm-hmm.

02:50:50.900 Some humans have-

02:50:51.960 Have, like, six.

02:50:53.100 Polydactyly.

02:50:53.780 Yeah.

02:50:54.180 Yes.

02:50:54.820 Some humans have 11 fingers.

02:50:58.980 Yeah.

02:50:59.580 However, it is not wrong to say that humans have 10 fingers, because we're speaking in generalities

02:51:06.120 here.

02:51:06.700 But, see, we're talking about-

02:51:09.360 Behaviors.

02:51:10.160 You're talking about something objective.

02:51:11.760 You just mentioned something.

02:51:12.940 Sorry, guys.

02:51:13.660 Sorry, I didn't mean to put the hand up.

02:51:14.840 But you just mentioned something that is objective, right?

02:51:17.780 Mm-hmm.

02:51:18.180 And a human born with an extra digit objectively has 11 digits.

02:51:22.720 Yeah, their genetic code is that way.

02:51:24.460 Exactly.

02:51:25.020 A rating system is completely subjective.

02:51:27.080 Looking at somebody and saying, you're a four.

02:51:28.900 You're an eight.

02:51:29.480 It is not.

02:51:29.600 No, no, no.

02:51:29.880 But where is the genetic code that tells that person that they're a four?

02:51:33.360 I would like-

02:51:33.900 There's nothing objective about that.

02:51:35.400 Beauty and aesthetics.

02:51:36.940 There's something to-

02:51:38.180 I mean, there's people studying this.

02:51:40.520 Christian Pagone Superchat at $49.99.

02:51:44.160 Can the rating question start out with a qualifying point system?

02:51:48.160 I believe this may result in a more honest answer and also result in some needed reflection.

02:51:53.000 Needed reflection?

02:51:53.280 What would be a qualifying point system for you, Christian?

02:51:55.860 What is a needed reflection?

02:51:56.840 That's too complicated to get into that at the moment.

02:52:00.500 Okay, let's shut down the podcast.

02:52:02.660 We're coming up with rules.

02:52:03.760 No, sorry.

02:52:04.660 We'll be back.

02:52:05.460 Yeah, Jesus.

02:52:06.520 Sorry, guy.

02:52:06.560 What I would like to add to the conversation is that a person is so much more than how they look, right?

02:52:13.280 A person is so much more than how they look.

02:52:16.100 The heart matters.

02:52:17.340 The brain matters.

02:52:18.900 You know, like the feelings matter.

02:52:20.800 The ideology matters.

02:52:22.140 A human is so much more complex than just a one to ten to ten.

02:52:25.960 I would tell that to the 90% of women who would prefer to date men taller than them.

02:52:30.320 And I would tell them to be more open-minded.

02:52:32.620 I honestly would.

02:52:33.980 But here, I actually think, I think, see.

02:52:36.600 You cannot.

02:52:37.220 I cannot do it.

02:52:38.020 Well, I appreciate your honesty.

02:52:39.200 And that's okay.

02:52:40.020 And that's your personal preference.

02:52:40.780 But that's how most women think.

02:52:42.760 Okay, but if you keep on, okay, if you meet me outside on the street and you think automatically that I think like the general woman,

02:52:51.560 then are you really giving yourself a chance?

02:52:53.640 That's true.

02:52:54.540 Wait, could you repeat that?

02:52:55.580 I will repeat that.

02:52:56.460 Okay.

02:52:56.900 So, if you meet a woman and you automatically assume that she thinks like the generalized woman,

02:53:06.240 aren't you already gatekeeping your ability to connect with her?

02:53:10.560 Well, I'm 6'1", so I'm not really, I'm not really tripping.

02:53:14.120 But short king's out there.

02:53:15.460 I want you to think about all the outliers of you, as you've mentioned, the outliers of women here.

02:53:21.300 There is objectively one person with traditional values as opposed to what the five of us here, right?

02:53:30.200 Dr. Kiki.

02:53:30.840 Oh, yeah, I'm Kiki.

02:53:32.160 So, all I'm saying is that I feel like if you keep on assuming that a woman thinks like the general woman,

02:53:40.140 then you're limiting your capability to create a connection.

02:53:43.440 I mean, most women...

02:53:45.580 See, you're doing it again.

02:53:46.620 No, no, no, no.

02:53:47.080 But it's not wrong.

02:53:48.400 It's just for the sake of the conversation.

02:53:50.080 No, but it's not even for the sake of the conversation.

02:53:52.240 Most women want to date men who are taller than them.

02:53:55.200 Okay.

02:53:55.620 Most women are...

02:53:56.800 And the taller a guy gets up until a certain point, then they start thinking, oh, it's going to be awkward.

02:54:01.720 But most women, do they want a guy who's taller than them?

02:54:04.620 Yes.

02:54:04.900 Would they...

02:54:05.420 Oh, he's 6'1", great.

02:54:07.040 He's 6'1", even better.

02:54:08.380 He's 6'2", even better.

02:54:09.580 He's 6'3", even better.

02:54:12.020 So...

02:54:12.620 Well, I would like to dial it back a bit, and this connects to exactly what you're saying.

02:54:16.880 But a moment ago, somebody, one of you, said that the rating system, 0 to 10, whatever, was an objective system.

02:54:25.440 It is.

02:54:27.220 Objective based on gender roles and gender norms.

02:54:32.220 Objective based on what is societally beautiful in our society.

02:54:36.480 Objective.

02:54:36.840 Which is subjective.

02:54:37.820 Yeah, it's based off the evolution.

02:54:39.580 Which is subjective.

02:54:40.300 Which is subjective.

02:54:40.380 Which is subjective.

02:54:41.740 Well, I mean, there's...

02:54:42.680 Because in China, they're completely different.

02:54:46.700 The beauty standard is completely different.

02:54:48.640 What is considered objectively beautiful in China, in India, in Japan, is objectively different.

02:54:54.320 Are any of you guys from China?

02:54:56.200 Facial, okay.

02:54:57.140 We're in America.

02:54:58.140 What?

02:54:58.240 And so we have specific gender norms and beauty standards that we adhere to.

02:55:03.120 So we're talking about America.

02:55:04.200 That you claim that your system is based on, but those beauty standards are subjective.

02:55:08.840 Well, look, I'm team small titty, but all around the world, dudes like big tits.

02:55:13.800 I don't care if you're in Bangladesh or you're in Latin America.

02:55:18.080 I don't know.

02:55:18.580 I don't care where you're at.

02:55:19.780 Guys like big titties.

02:55:21.420 I'm down with small titties.

02:55:22.660 I like small titties.

02:55:23.560 Okay, but see, but see, you are quite literally proving my point about the generalization, right?

02:55:29.800 You said that your team, small chest, and that's great.

02:55:33.240 Big titties are great, too.

02:55:34.340 Yeah.

02:55:34.740 Just saying.

02:55:35.240 Okay.

02:55:35.580 We love all titties here.

02:55:36.980 I'm going to try to explain this in a first-person situation, right?

02:55:40.680 Okay.

02:55:40.960 I am chubby.

02:55:42.460 I am tall.

02:55:43.500 I would say I have like a moderate chest, right?

02:55:46.240 Thinking about all of these attributes, right?

02:55:50.100 If I meet a man and I'm like, oh, man, you know, he's not going to like me because I have a tummy, then I'm limiting my own ability to potentially create a relationship with him.

02:56:00.940 I won't ever know until I try, and I think the fear of thinking more about the individualism aspect of it, I think the fear comes from rejection, and I think that's really what it is.

02:56:14.300 Well, and by saying that like small titties are undesirable, I can contradict that immediately.

02:56:20.220 Well, I didn't say that.

02:56:21.360 I didn't say that.

02:56:22.000 That was the suggestion.

02:56:23.280 I didn't say that.

02:56:23.700 That they're the less popular and less valuable.

02:56:25.640 I think clarify.

02:56:26.440 Men prefer.

02:56:27.660 I would say men would prefer like a bit more in the chest area, generally speaking.

02:56:34.380 That is absolutely your preference?

02:56:36.200 No, no.

02:56:36.460 Well, it's not my preference because small titties are great, too.

02:56:39.400 He's saying generally.

02:56:40.680 I would say generally.

02:56:41.640 I'm speaking on behalf of other men.

02:56:43.040 Yeah, I'd say, do they prefer, you know?

02:56:46.700 You know, actually, I have kind of a toxic take on this.

02:56:49.520 Oh, no.

02:56:50.580 I also do want to hear Raph wants to say something.

02:56:53.200 Let me just give this real take on this.

02:56:55.180 So I actually, I almost might have a preference for smaller breasts, maybe a little bit.

02:56:59.940 I don't know.

02:57:00.780 Okay.

02:57:01.640 But here's, oh, God.

02:57:03.740 Okay, I'm going to get canceled, but whatever.

02:57:05.360 Okay.

02:57:06.100 So a woman with big tits, she can be hot.

02:57:10.700 She can be sexy.

02:57:11.660 She, oh, God, I'm going to get canceled.

02:57:13.600 Uh-huh.

02:57:14.320 She can't be beautiful.

02:57:16.260 Why?

02:57:17.020 What about Marilyn?

02:57:17.640 A woman, hold on.

02:57:19.240 A woman, however, with small tits, small breasts, she can be beautiful.

02:57:24.120 If you look at Greek statues, aesthetically speaking, smaller breasts on the Greek statues,

02:57:31.440 there's something that's, like, big, just, like, you know, just giant can crusher of tits.

02:57:38.760 Like, you can be hot.

02:57:40.520 You can be attractive.

02:57:41.440 You can be sexy.

02:57:42.620 So are you saying you sexualize big titties?

02:57:44.840 Yeah, that's exactly right.

02:57:45.540 But can you be beautiful?

02:57:46.760 You sexualize big titties?

02:57:47.100 Huh?

02:57:47.780 That's what you're saying?

02:57:48.560 Hmm?

02:57:49.080 I know.

02:57:49.600 Big titties?

02:57:49.860 Boobs are sexual?

02:57:50.780 Brian, I think that that's just your personal preference.

02:57:52.980 They're not there to feed babies?

02:57:55.840 They're for your pleasure?

02:57:57.060 Well, there's a whole bunch of reasons.

02:57:58.980 Are you asking?

02:57:59.740 Are you saying that men, yo, Crispy Kim, thank you, man.

02:58:02.020 Are you saying that men are not attracted, don't find large breasts attractive?

02:58:06.780 That's not what I'm saying.

02:58:07.860 And it's also interesting that you bring up the Greek statue comparison.

02:58:11.080 Yeah.

02:58:11.240 When, again, that was a societal beauty standard for the time.

02:58:16.420 We have since changed multiple times.

02:58:19.260 And, well, our aesthetics today, architectural, I'm getting really fucking deep.

02:58:24.720 Our architecture is dog shit.

02:58:26.560 Look at what the fucking Greeks and shit were doing.

02:58:29.080 The Romans.

02:58:29.760 I know.

02:58:29.900 What are we doing?

02:58:30.240 They were just people that created a beauty standard and created statues to be in that likeness.

02:58:34.760 They had a better aesthetic than we do.

02:58:36.540 Okay, that's your opinion.

02:58:37.600 But I could say, in the 90s, when skinny was beautiful, tummies that Greek statues had was completely undesirable.

02:58:46.460 So, like, you bring it up almost like an objective fact that, like, the Greeks knew.

02:58:50.460 And yet, we have seen societal beauty standards change over time.

02:58:54.360 Well, I'll tell you.

02:58:55.100 I mean, the 90s were a blur because of the cocaine.

02:58:58.680 The cocaine.

02:58:59.480 But you can't take away from them.

02:59:00.660 You can't deny that they existed.

02:59:02.000 That's why she was so teen.

02:59:02.700 You know, the 80s.

02:59:03.100 And at the societal beauty standard change.

02:59:04.740 But if we're not going to talk about the 90s, let's talk about Tweety.

02:59:06.660 Tweety was, or who was the model?

02:59:09.060 Are we talking about cartoons and shit?

02:59:09.560 I love that you're trying to divert.

02:59:11.520 No, it wasn't Buddy Booth.

02:59:12.440 Rax has something to say, and I would really like to hear it.

02:59:18.300 It was what you were talking about, about fear, right?

02:59:21.240 Yes, a fear of rejection.

02:59:24.220 I don't think guys fear, wait, there was something you said before that about, like, people putting people into, like, a box or something like that.

02:59:32.840 So, what I said is, I said that I think when you function as a person and you think that other people function under the general ideology, you're already hurting yourself from trying to create a connection because you might fear rejection.

02:59:50.800 Because you think that they might think like everybody else.

02:59:53.660 And that's what I was trying to say.

02:59:55.040 It's all about, like, I keep going back to this.

02:59:57.400 It's like, what I teach is, like, having a radar.

02:59:59.500 So, like I said, I've dealt with, like, a very diverse group of girls.

03:00:03.040 Yes.

03:00:03.500 So, it's like, you guys are all diverse.

03:00:05.380 Like, you guys are not all the same, right?

03:00:07.060 Yes.

03:00:07.660 So, I don't have a fear of approaching you because I know that even though you say that you want shorter guys or something like that, you're still going to respond to strength.

03:00:17.780 You're still going to respond to a guy that's taller than you, right?

03:00:21.660 I'm going to respond to both.

03:00:23.140 Exactly.

03:00:23.680 So, that's what I'm saying.

03:00:24.400 So, why would I tell a guy to limit his strength when I know that more women are going to want strength?

03:00:31.320 No, no, no.

03:00:31.680 Okay.

03:00:31.880 I think you misunderstood what I'm saying.

03:00:33.680 I'm saying that, okay, for instance, right?

03:00:36.060 You say that you teach men to have a radar for these things, right?

03:00:40.000 A hodar, if you will.

03:00:41.620 Yeah.

03:00:41.900 Whatever you want to call it, right?

03:00:43.320 A radar for a specific.

03:00:44.000 He's got a great hodar.

03:00:45.820 He's got one of the best hodars in the business.

03:00:48.080 A radar for a specific attribute, right?

03:00:51.460 So, if you look at a girl that has a shoulder tattoo and you're immediately like, oh, man, she's got X bodies, blah, blah.

03:01:00.400 I'm not even going to try.

03:01:01.600 What if you took the time to talk to her?

03:01:04.400 I have.

03:01:04.800 And get to know her.

03:01:05.460 No, no, no.

03:01:05.780 But listen, listen.

03:01:06.660 It sounds like when you're coaching these guys, you're telling them and you're teaching them to limit their ability to connect based off of this radar.

03:01:15.280 Let me put it like this, right?

03:01:16.500 A coach teaches their players how to have the most success.

03:01:20.560 Yes.

03:01:20.880 Right?

03:01:21.300 So, if I'm a basketball coach, I'm going to teach them the strategy that's going to win out most of the time.

03:01:26.840 You're not going to win every game.

03:01:28.760 Of course not.

03:01:29.020 But I'm trying to get them the highest success rate.

03:01:31.440 So, if I know that most defenses, defenses being women.

03:01:35.540 Highest success rate for sex or relationships.

03:01:37.880 Whatever you want to call it.

03:01:39.760 Speaking of this metaphor is a conquest.

03:01:43.360 Women are something to be won.

03:01:44.740 That's what you just said.

03:01:45.040 You're putting words in my mouth.

03:01:45.820 You just said women are something to be won like in a basketball game, right?

03:01:49.240 No, no, no.

03:01:49.680 For points.

03:01:50.280 Bro, I said I'm teaching my players how to win a majority of the time.

03:01:59.100 So, I think by win, he just means having more successful conversations or things that may make sense.

03:02:03.680 Because like he said, like most guys are virgins.

03:02:05.900 So, they're not even at the point where they're at my point.

03:02:08.500 They're trying to get from zero to one.

03:02:10.060 Okay.

03:02:10.340 You know what I'm saying?

03:02:11.220 So, if I can coach guys to get from zero to one by looking for the generalities and knowing how to approach them.

03:02:18.140 See.

03:02:19.340 Hold on, hold on.

03:02:20.000 Finish, finish.

03:02:20.640 And even looking at the exceptions and knowing that a lot of shit is random.

03:02:24.280 Then they're going to have more success than the guys who are just going into it looking for the exceptions because they listen to women like you guys.

03:02:30.900 See, and then this is where I think the difference of ideology between us comes in, right?

03:02:35.400 Because if I was coaching women or men to have more success in the dating realm, I would focus more on them.

03:02:42.060 I would focus on their confidence.

03:02:43.920 I would focus about how they feel about themselves.

03:02:46.160 That's what I focus on.

03:02:46.740 But here's the thing.

03:02:47.920 I would never tell them to focus on generalized qualities of the type of people that they are trying to go after.

03:02:54.940 But I just asked you a question.

03:02:56.260 I said, do you like strength?

03:02:58.320 I don't know what that means to you.

03:02:59.880 What does that mean?

03:03:01.100 In reality, right?

03:03:02.240 When you see a guy and he approaches you on some stuttering like, hey, I really want your number and like, can I take you out sometime?

03:03:10.480 Or a guy who just.

03:03:11.320 That's confidence, not strength.

03:03:12.120 No, no, no.

03:03:12.620 Bro.

03:03:13.020 I'm just going to let him finish.

03:03:14.660 Strength is, it's your intuition feels like, okay, this guy is a dominant guy, right?

03:03:23.300 It's subconscious.

03:03:24.380 You're not going to say like, oh, this guy is a dominant.

03:03:25.900 No, because here's the thing.

03:03:26.500 I deal with a lot of, okay, in the anime community, right?

03:03:30.180 I deal with a lot of guys who don't really know how to socialize, who, you know, don't really know how to talk to women, how to talk to people.

03:03:36.940 I'm always going to give them a chance.

03:03:39.240 Absolutely.

03:03:40.260 Maybe it might not pan out.

03:03:42.280 And I can see that you're like, oh, what the fuck about that?

03:03:45.260 Because I've seen so much.

03:03:46.700 I just told you the story of there was a girl who the guy she was talking to is rich, right?

03:03:53.160 Okay.

03:03:53.560 But she's not fucking him.

03:03:55.440 She's fucking the guy who is dominant.

03:03:58.760 You know what I'm saying?

03:03:59.300 He just goes after what he wants.

03:04:00.560 And that's her preference, though.

03:04:01.300 And that comes back to personal preference.

03:04:02.360 It's not just preference.

03:04:03.400 I'm saying like, this is LA where it's like, this shit happens on a mass scale.

03:04:07.320 It's preference.

03:04:08.220 That's okay.

03:04:08.460 It's clear you've never been to a BDSM club.

03:04:10.960 There are a lot of people.

03:04:12.480 That's not an outlier.

03:04:13.880 That's not an outlier.

03:04:15.060 In fact, the archetype of the strong man who wants to be soft in bed is common.

03:04:19.780 She sees the rich guy as boyfriend material.

03:04:23.740 She said it herself.

03:04:24.520 Okay.

03:04:25.080 So she's making him wait rather than the guy who is direct, who's going to go after what

03:04:29.880 he wants.

03:04:30.580 She's going to sleep with him right away.

03:04:32.360 So why would the guy who's rich, if he was up on game, wait that long when he can be like

03:04:38.380 the guy who sleeps with her right away?

03:04:40.160 Well, also, it sounds like in that specific scenario, that is yet again, another scenario

03:04:44.400 of a woman manipulating a man.

03:04:46.660 Yeah, that sounds awful.

03:04:47.740 Yeah, that's unethical.

03:04:49.440 That is absolutely unethical.

03:04:50.100 You guys sit here and say it sounds awful, but you guys are not talking to the other women

03:04:54.140 who do this worldwide.

03:04:55.100 Absolutely, we are.

03:04:55.940 So why don't you guys...

03:04:57.080 We do, and we tell them it's not cool.

03:04:58.880 And if they're listening to this podcast, this is for you too.

03:05:01.860 This is for women.

03:05:02.520 It's not just the podcast.

03:05:03.140 I'm saying like, feminism pushes equality, right?

03:05:07.700 Yes.

03:05:08.060 Is there any equality in the dating market?

03:05:11.340 I...

03:05:12.140 Currently?

03:05:12.820 There's no equality in the world.

03:05:14.240 The goal is to seek that.

03:05:15.820 Right now.

03:05:16.140 I mean, like, think about it, right?

03:05:17.260 Despite the current existence of it, I mean...

03:05:19.740 There is no equality in the world.

03:05:20.740 Exactly.

03:05:21.140 There is no equality.

03:05:22.140 Where is equality in the world?

03:05:23.320 Feminism is trying to reach the equality of that.

03:05:26.200 We're in LA.

03:05:27.380 We are in...

03:05:28.420 We're in Santa Barbara, actually.

03:05:29.680 In the Western world, there's equality between men and women.

03:05:33.260 I...

03:05:33.780 Okay.

03:05:34.180 There's equality.

03:05:34.960 First of all...

03:05:35.960 Well, it's interesting that you say that, but it's...

03:05:38.040 It's a contradiction.

03:05:38.680 Didn't you just say that men and women aren't equal, like, ten minutes ago?

03:05:42.400 They're different.

03:05:43.500 We're different.

03:05:44.020 Yeah, we're different.

03:05:44.180 Yeah.

03:05:44.460 So then...

03:05:46.020 So here's...

03:05:46.660 That doesn't mean equal.

03:05:47.500 You even said yourself, financially, we're not equal in what we contribute.

03:05:50.520 We're not equal in what we contribute domestically.

03:05:53.020 We're not equal in how we approach relationships.

03:05:54.920 We're not equal in sex.

03:05:55.820 We're not equal in sex.

03:05:56.440 Yes.

03:05:56.920 How can you say that we're equal?

03:05:58.220 We're equal in the sense of...

03:06:00.580 Okay.

03:06:00.860 When people use the term equality, for example, a man has certain parts down there, and a

03:06:06.640 woman has certain parts down there.

03:06:07.920 That's an inequality.

03:06:08.280 Genitalia?

03:06:09.120 Yes.

03:06:09.660 So in certain regards, we are not equal, but oftentimes, most of the time when people

03:06:15.600 are talking about equality, we're talking about something very specific there.

03:06:19.500 So what are you talking about?

03:06:20.260 We're talking about rights and privileges.

03:06:23.120 Okay.

03:06:23.420 As we just had a right.

03:06:24.540 And so...

03:06:24.680 And are paid 72 cents to the dollar?

03:06:26.460 Well, the wage gap's been debunked, but...

03:06:28.460 Yeah, we don't even have to get...

03:06:29.340 We don't have to go into that.

03:06:30.500 Okay.

03:06:31.120 But let's just talk about equality in the dating market.

03:06:33.560 I'm saying, like, all of you girls, if you guys wanted to go out to the club, you

03:06:36.880 guys are getting in for free, right?

03:06:38.620 No.

03:06:39.240 Are you kidding?

03:06:39.840 I'm on a busy day.

03:06:41.140 I have...

03:06:42.180 I literally just had to pay a co-pay or whatever the...

03:06:44.460 A co-pay?

03:06:44.840 What does it mean?

03:06:46.280 An entrance fee.

03:06:47.100 An entrance fee.

03:06:47.780 The other night last weekend.

03:06:49.060 Can we suspend our disbelief for the sake of the argument?

03:06:51.840 I think I'm going to try to get the super chat.

03:06:52.980 I got a question for X.

03:06:54.940 So this is going to bring me back to the question I actually wanted to ask you earlier.

03:06:57.000 Okay.

03:06:57.220 Make it snappy.

03:06:58.020 In that regard to, like, the dating field and how you're asking if it's equal.

03:07:01.740 In my experience with the different dating apps, you know, Bumble, Hinge, Tinder, I find

03:07:05.500 that there's a different energy amongst, you know, like, Tinder.

03:07:10.200 People typically go to that more for hookups.

03:07:12.860 Hinge, I feel it's more of a serious thing, and Bumble is kind of in the in-between.

03:07:17.460 Have you...

03:07:18.220 What is your take on that?

03:07:19.200 All of them are for hookups.

03:07:21.000 Okay.

03:07:21.260 Well, yeah.

03:07:22.140 Ultimately, yeah.

03:07:22.860 But I feel like there's definitely, like, a concentrated energy when it comes to, like,

03:07:28.100 Tinder.

03:07:28.380 People are like, oh, I'm going to use that for, like, you know, like...

03:07:30.180 Look, what I tell guys is get off of Tinder, get off of Bumble, just go on Hinge.

03:07:35.000 Like, if you maximize your profile on Hinge, like, you don't need the other apps.

03:07:38.660 Yeah, Hinge is probably...

03:07:39.320 Hinge is good.

03:07:39.960 Hinge is a good one.

03:07:40.580 You know what?

03:07:41.200 Yeah, Hinge is a good one.

03:07:41.860 I actually think that men should try to meet women in person more.

03:07:47.440 I would love that.

03:07:47.700 I'm going to be honest.

03:07:48.440 Well, no.

03:07:48.920 I don't think dating apps are healthy.

03:07:52.180 I don't think they benefit anybody.

03:07:53.160 I can agree with that.

03:07:54.100 Yeah, it's true.

03:07:54.420 And I think that if you're seeking a personal connection, it should always be in person.

03:07:59.660 Yeah.

03:08:00.000 No, I feel that.

03:08:00.820 Well, that's kind of, like, going back to when I was, like, on the apps and, like,

03:08:03.680 having personal connections.

03:08:06.600 Personal connections?

03:08:07.360 Personal connections, like having dates and going out to dinner and enjoying the beach.

03:08:12.060 Oh, that's so funny.

03:08:13.000 Oh, Brian.

03:08:13.420 You know, I mean, like, we can tease me all you want, right?

03:08:16.080 But, like, realistically, I was there for human connection.

03:08:18.540 That was really what I was there for.

03:08:19.900 Yeah, you connected their bodies.

03:08:22.200 Oh, my God.

03:08:23.180 Okay.

03:08:23.540 So you have had sex with at least 30 more people than you.

03:08:26.900 I just told you the reality.

03:08:28.680 But anyway, so what I was trying to make a nice, fun, easy point, though.

03:08:32.180 So what I was trying to say is I think it's really interesting, the difference between

03:08:36.680 personal interaction and keeping it on the apps because people will sit and chat on apps

03:08:41.260 forever.

03:08:42.040 But, like, are you actually, like, really your own real person?

03:08:45.860 Or are you just, like, fronting and never going to go anywhere with that?

03:08:48.440 That's an L if you're spending a ton of time talking to people.

03:08:51.440 I have talked to so many men.

03:08:53.220 So many men who have, like, yeah, I've never gotten off the chat.

03:08:56.100 And I'm like, but why?

03:08:57.420 Maybe they're not making the move.

03:08:58.900 Well, I mean.

03:08:59.620 You know what?

03:09:00.140 That's true because I did make the move.

03:09:02.300 It's because of the black.

03:09:03.340 Please call me.

03:09:04.100 This is my number here.

03:09:05.120 We're going to put it on the screen.

03:09:05.920 Honestly, like, honestly, like, no more than three messages and you should be pushing

03:09:10.940 for me.

03:09:11.240 That's what I'm saying.

03:09:11.920 Like, why are you keeping it on the DMs?

03:09:14.620 Yeah, if you're into it, you're into it.

03:09:15.860 If you're into it, then go meet the person.

03:09:18.520 Yeah, and I mean, it is hard to read somebody.

03:09:20.480 Oh, we got a little fit check going.

03:09:21.940 We got a fit check.

03:09:23.260 Okay.

03:09:24.040 All right.

03:09:24.080 All right.

03:09:24.280 All right.

03:09:24.620 There we go.

03:09:25.140 Oh.

03:09:25.940 Can we get a little spin?

03:09:26.620 Can we get a little spin?

03:09:28.840 Yes.

03:09:29.620 Yes.

03:09:30.340 Yes.

03:09:30.660 Yes.

03:09:31.060 Yes.

03:09:31.560 Yes.

03:09:31.920 Woo!

03:09:33.480 Haram!

03:09:34.200 Haram!

03:09:35.800 Okay.

03:09:36.340 All right.

03:09:36.760 Let's get the soup chats.

03:09:37.620 Let's get the soup chats, guys.

03:09:39.860 Okay.

03:09:40.840 Yo, Derek.

03:09:41.860 No, that's so cool.

03:09:44.060 Did we, I think, did we do this one?

03:09:45.580 Yeah, we did.

03:09:45.980 Yo, we got Davon Jackson.

03:09:47.240 I'm pretty sure that was a TTS.

03:09:48.380 Thank you, man.

03:09:49.840 Zentience.

03:09:50.540 Dude, thank you, Zentience and Davon Jackson for dropping all the soup chats tonight, man.

03:09:53.680 Really appreciate it, guys.

03:09:54.660 We have Davon with the, that was another TTS.

03:09:58.500 One of the TTSs might have not gone through.

03:10:00.640 I'm not sure.

03:10:01.560 Zentience again.

03:10:02.260 Thank you, man.

03:10:02.660 Appreciate it.

03:10:03.340 We have Frankie K, $20 soup chat.

03:10:06.220 Value is innate in women.

03:10:07.780 They were born with it.

03:10:08.680 To attract the best mate, all they have to do is preserve it.

03:10:12.460 Don't get too fat.

03:10:13.940 Don't sleep around.

03:10:14.680 Y'all have devalued the hell out of yourselves.

03:10:16.640 Oh, okay.

03:10:17.160 Men value fidelity and innocence.

03:10:19.220 Are you a virgin, Frankie?

03:10:20.920 Whoa.

03:10:21.260 No, they're just like girls who freshly turned 18.

03:10:24.040 What happened to the body shaming and shit?

03:10:28.220 Oh, just closer to the body count.

03:10:29.620 That's what I'm saying.

03:10:29.820 Like, why is he body shaming people?

03:10:31.560 Like, don't get too fat.

03:10:33.860 That's not body shaming.

03:10:34.880 That's just kind of facts, isn't it?

03:10:35.780 I would say that's kind of body shaming.

03:10:37.440 Because, like, he's saying that he would gain some preference.

03:10:41.120 Again, yeah, personal preference.

03:10:42.740 That's what it comes down to, guys.

03:10:43.880 Wait, I have a question for you, Brian.

03:10:45.640 You said that's not body shaming.

03:10:47.220 He's saying don't get too fat.

03:10:48.560 What do you mean by that's not body shaming?

03:10:50.680 And then that's, like, you just said that.

03:10:53.320 Okay, if he were to have called me a fat whore, that would be body shaming.

03:11:00.220 But saying don't get fat.

03:11:02.940 But as a way to attract the best mate.

03:11:05.720 That's saying that you cannot have weight on your body to attract the best mate.

03:11:09.780 How dare you have weight?

03:11:10.660 You know what I mean?

03:11:11.480 It's the reality.

03:11:12.640 But that's just.

03:11:13.300 But isn't that come down to the subjective objective?

03:11:16.040 It is a societal beauty standard.

03:11:17.160 And it's unfortunate.

03:11:17.680 We bring up a good point.

03:11:18.920 Society tends to be fat phobic.

03:11:21.100 That's true.

03:11:21.680 You are correct, Brian.

03:11:22.800 Society is fat phobic.

03:11:24.500 Well, it's not fat phobia.

03:11:26.920 Hold on.

03:11:27.220 Let me talk.

03:11:28.100 It's not fat phobia.

03:11:29.820 And it's not even a social construct.

03:11:32.720 Being overweight on its face is unhealthy.

03:11:36.800 There are some guys who are into that.

03:11:38.440 Well, we're not talking about that.

03:11:40.120 Oh, those are crazy.

03:11:40.460 But yes, we were talking about that.

03:11:43.080 And you've changed the subject.

03:11:44.060 No, but yes.

03:11:45.060 Okay.

03:11:45.260 There are men that are attracted to.

03:11:47.080 It comes down to personal preference.

03:11:48.000 There's chubby chasers.

03:11:49.340 There's men who are like thick women.

03:11:51.420 Whatever you want to call it.

03:11:52.780 However, if you are too fat or overweight or obese, you are necessarily unhealthy.

03:11:59.460 But not necessarily.

03:12:00.640 Especially if you are.

03:12:01.800 Depending on how you define fat.

03:12:03.160 Yeah, and see, that's subjective to the person.

03:12:05.800 Let's try to have a...

03:12:07.160 Some people would say that I'm fat.

03:12:08.580 Logical.

03:12:09.220 And there was a minute when I struggled with eating disorders and I was under 100 pounds.

03:12:13.080 I was dramatically underweight.

03:12:15.680 And at the time, that was the expected societal beauty standard.

03:12:19.960 And now people would consider me fat.

03:12:21.460 So yeah, if someone called me a fat whore, for example, that is absolutely body shit.

03:12:26.520 Okay, but let's maybe see if we can...

03:12:28.800 Or Neko, for instance, is perfectly healthy.

03:12:31.060 She's been to her physicals.

03:12:32.300 Oh, you're incredibly healthy.

03:12:34.280 If I told...

03:12:35.100 Okay, I will give some background.

03:12:36.620 I've been an athlete my entire life.

03:12:38.800 My number weight is something that I have struggled with a lot.

03:12:43.040 And when I went on the Fresh and Fit podcast, I did read a lot of comments and they were all

03:12:47.480 calling me a whale.

03:12:48.680 I am...

03:12:49.560 No, I'm serious.

03:12:50.320 I get called a whale.

03:12:51.660 I get called shamu.

03:12:52.840 I get called so many things because men...

03:12:55.840 I gotta do a hate every day.

03:12:57.640 Like, men do think that I'm fat.

03:13:00.340 And guess what?

03:13:00.880 You know what?

03:13:01.280 I am proud to say I'm over 200 pounds.

03:13:04.020 I don't care.

03:13:05.000 I'm over 200 pounds.

03:13:06.660 I feel beautiful.

03:13:07.740 That's right.

03:13:08.000 I feel sexy.

03:13:09.040 And my partner loves me the way I am because the weight number does not define the weight.

03:13:15.620 Like, you can...

03:13:16.700 Everyone carries weight differently on their body.

03:13:18.560 You know what I mean?

03:13:20.080 And yeah.

03:13:21.000 Ultimately, what is too fat for you is going to be a personal preference, which is circling

03:13:26.520 back to the point that generalizing things can hurt you.

03:13:31.460 Next question?

03:13:32.220 But let's talk about...

03:13:33.360 I mean, so you don't think obesity is unhealthy?

03:13:35.900 That's not what we're saying.

03:13:36.740 That's not what's the...

03:13:37.860 I don't think that was the case.

03:13:39.240 I think we should do that.

03:13:39.580 I think we were talking about body shaming.

03:13:41.520 Yeah.

03:13:41.760 Yeah.

03:13:41.960 And fat phobia.

03:13:42.860 And to a degree, you told me that body shaming doesn't exist.

03:13:45.980 While you're putting words in my mouth, I never said that.

03:13:48.580 Repeat what you...

03:13:49.280 I mean, I wish we could play it back, but...

03:13:51.600 What do you think I said?

03:13:52.920 You think I said body shaming doesn't exist?

03:13:55.580 No, no, no.

03:13:55.960 You said that if someone were to call you a fat whale, that would be...

03:14:00.260 Fat whore.

03:14:00.700 Oh.

03:14:01.260 Get it correct.

03:14:01.780 Pardon my vermin.

03:14:02.960 Get it right.

03:14:03.780 If someone were to call you a fat whore, that would be body shaming.

03:14:06.720 Yes.

03:14:06.840 But if someone were to say that to someone who was...

03:14:09.020 Don't get too fat.

03:14:09.720 200 pounds.

03:14:10.620 Sorry.

03:14:10.880 Excuse me.

03:14:11.500 200 pounds.

03:14:12.580 That's not what I said.

03:14:13.560 Okay.

03:14:13.880 He was saying that don't get too fat is not considered body shaming.

03:14:17.580 I was saying literally what he said, advising someone to not get too fat is not body shaming.

03:14:24.680 And by the way, the body shaming movement originally was about things that were out of your control,

03:14:30.420 not about weight, which is in your control.

03:14:33.260 To a degree.

03:14:34.000 I wonder if you have hyperthyroidism.

03:14:36.200 I do have hyperthyroidism.

03:14:36.660 Would you guys body shame guys who are short all the time?

03:14:39.300 We never said that we did that.

03:14:40.540 That's hype shaming.

03:14:41.040 Hold on.

03:14:41.420 Hold on.

03:14:41.940 Hold on.

03:14:42.380 You just brought up hypothyroidism.

03:14:45.160 Hyper.

03:14:46.000 Hypo.

03:14:46.540 Hyper.

03:14:47.160 No.

03:14:47.640 Hyper.

03:14:48.060 Hypo.

03:14:48.660 No.

03:14:49.000 Hypo would be you have difficulty losing weight.

03:14:52.640 I have hypothyroidism.

03:14:53.840 I take, uh, can I, are you medicated?

03:14:55.700 I do.

03:14:56.120 I take, uh, that's why you don't struggle with weight.

03:14:57.720 That's why you don't have any issues though.

03:14:58.720 There are a ton of people that are unmedicated.

03:15:00.920 Even with, well, first off, thyroid, hold on, hold on, let me finish.

03:15:05.900 First off, thyroid medication is super, well, it's very cheap.

03:15:12.220 It's very cheap.

03:15:13.520 Yeah.

03:15:13.700 Can you guys stop interrupting, please?

03:15:15.420 Okay.

03:15:16.120 So, you brought up hypothyroidism.

03:15:19.320 So, one, it's treatable.

03:15:20.740 I totally agree.

03:15:21.260 Okay.

03:15:21.760 But, so, if you take medication, even with medication though, I struggle with my weight

03:15:26.960 a little bit.

03:15:27.840 So, however, if I adhere to a strict healthy diet, I can lose weight.

03:15:34.920 Sure.

03:15:35.160 And right now, I'm actually, I'm, I'm on a diet.

03:15:37.860 I, I, I ate too much over the holidays.

03:15:40.200 I gained some weight.

03:15:41.020 I was eating like shit.

03:15:41.880 I've been eating well for the past month.

03:15:43.580 I'm like down already like seven pounds or some shit.

03:15:46.000 Cause I was, I was eating a lot of carbs.

03:15:48.400 Let me tell you that.

03:15:49.240 So, weight is something that's 100% of in your control.

03:15:53.800 You wanted to bring up hypothyroidism as an example.

03:15:57.140 Most people who are overweight do not have hypothyroidism or some sort of other.

03:16:02.100 By the way, I also have a, uh, aside from just hypothyroidism, I have a fracture in

03:16:08.220 L5S1.

03:16:09.140 I have a, literally have a broken back.

03:16:10.920 That's awkward.

03:16:11.620 Yeah.

03:16:11.880 So, I, if I want to lose weight, I, it's hard for me to do it through exercise.

03:16:15.760 Good for you for doing the work.

03:16:16.700 So, I need to do it primarily through diet.

03:16:18.900 Totally.

03:16:19.460 So, I, I, my own experience, it's not about exercise.

03:16:22.940 It comes down to diet.

03:16:24.580 As someone who's literally been stuck, I haven't shared this much before.

03:16:28.580 I was stuck in bed for like nine months with a broken back.

03:16:31.300 Bad times.

03:16:32.240 Bad times.

03:16:33.320 I've gotten better.

03:16:34.340 But, I'm, I'm basically, but what I'm trying to say is I'm like, look, I wasn't obese to

03:16:42.460 begin with, but I have to rely strictly on diet to lose weight, basically.

03:16:48.200 So, weight is 100% something that's in your control, bringing it back to body shaming.

03:16:53.960 Body shaming originally was about people who had scars and things that you, they couldn't

03:16:59.680 control like a deformity.

03:17:01.880 That's what, uh, body positivity was originally about.

03:17:04.860 Not, it wasn't about weight.

03:17:06.480 Okay.

03:17:06.960 Sure.

03:17:07.720 But, I feel like we've just like talked this to death about weight.

03:17:12.040 Well, I'm going to, this is my podcast.

03:17:14.700 I'm just saying.

03:17:15.280 This is my podcast.

03:17:16.320 I'm going to.

03:17:16.760 I mean, for sure.

03:17:18.100 Okay.

03:17:18.400 Say whatever.

03:17:20.180 Just, you're not the host.

03:17:21.740 I'm going to talk about it.

03:17:23.260 I mean, I was going to move on to the stuff.

03:17:25.100 You don't, but you don't need to moderate here.

03:17:26.980 I'm not moderating.

03:17:28.120 I was just really getting uncomfortable with the topic.

03:17:30.640 Uncomfortable with the topic?

03:17:32.060 He was talking about his whole health training.

03:17:35.620 I would just like to move on if that's okay.

03:17:38.940 Bro.

03:17:39.720 Well, I think so.

03:17:40.620 I don't know if anyone else wanted to add, but I was actually about to move on.

03:17:45.400 Anyways.

03:17:46.120 So, we have Dr. B, uh, 84.

03:17:49.740 Most women would not sleep with most men, but most men would sleep with most women.

03:17:54.120 And I think I said this somewhat before you disagree.

03:17:57.160 No.

03:17:57.480 We've already talked about this.

03:17:58.720 Yeah.

03:17:59.020 Yeah.

03:17:59.320 I think this has been established.

03:18:00.020 But I just want to go back to this.

03:18:01.460 Why is it so upsetting for you guys to hear me say that weight is something that you can control?

03:18:09.800 It's not that that particularly is upsetting.

03:18:12.740 It's that based on the connotations of what you're saying, I hear that people are not deserving of necessarily kindness or respect, even if they're on their journey.

03:18:22.440 And it's incredible that you went through your own journey and like you struggle with weight.

03:18:26.800 I've, oh my God, I really respect that.

03:18:28.500 That's really difficult, genuinely.

03:18:29.980 But I think that regardless of that, people should not be shamed for where, we should be able to meet people where they're at with respect and allow them to have that journey without calling them a whale or a fat whore.

03:18:41.140 Okay.

03:18:41.340 I agree with you.

03:18:42.180 I don't think you should be outwardly insulting or disrespectful to you.

03:18:45.580 The issue I have with the component of the body positivity movement that relates to weight is suggesting that obesity is healthy.

03:18:55.780 Now, that I have to counter because it is not healthy to be overweight or to be obese.

03:19:01.580 Should you be insulted for it?

03:19:02.940 Absolutely not.

03:19:03.720 You should be treated with respect, even if you're overweight.

03:19:06.100 Me personally, if my personal take just for me, if someone was like, one of my male friends was like, yo, Brian, you're a fat piece of shit, hit the gym.

03:19:14.320 I'd be like, that's motivating for me.

03:19:16.080 However, me personally, I would never insult someone who is overweight, but.

03:19:23.620 No, you're okay.

03:19:24.560 I think I'm happy to end on a commonality there.

03:19:26.780 Okay.

03:19:27.000 So, yes, I don't think you should make fun of people or be insulting or disrespectful.

03:19:33.040 However, I do not buy into this feel good thing of if you're obese, healthy at any size, if you're obese, it's okay.

03:19:42.240 Okay.

03:19:42.880 You should know it's unhealthy.

03:19:44.780 I just don't want to deny the existence of body shaming.

03:19:47.760 And I feel like to a degree, that's what you were doing.

03:19:49.880 Yeah.

03:19:51.400 Anyway, but truly, I feel like we've reached a commonality.

03:19:54.260 We can cut this.

03:19:55.140 Yeah, we're moving on.

03:19:56.140 All right.

03:19:56.460 So, we have Zentians.

03:19:57.820 This came in as a TTS.

03:19:59.180 Thank you, man.

03:19:59.540 Appreciate it.

03:20:00.840 The smartest man in the world.

03:20:02.020 $20 soup chat.

03:20:02.660 Thank you, man.

03:20:03.120 Economist Thomas Sowell.

03:20:05.000 Sowell?

03:20:05.440 I forgot how to pronounce his name.

03:20:07.680 But a very smart guy.

03:20:09.240 Debunked the wage gap in the 70s.

03:20:10.660 The net economic activity gap is real, though.

03:20:13.520 The average U.S. woman costs U.S. taxpayers men $120,000 more than they put into the economy over their lifetimes.

03:20:20.800 Hashtag pay up.

03:20:22.060 We kind of talked about that.

03:20:23.360 Thank you, man.

03:20:23.840 Louis Burrito, $20 soup chat.

03:20:25.480 By the way, sorry, we're getting to these after a while here.

03:20:27.960 But women make the bettas wait to fake purity and ensure commitment through deceit.

03:20:34.900 This type of content is saving countless men's lives.

03:20:39.380 Andrew Tate is amazing.

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03:20:40.740 Oh, yeah.

03:20:41.340 Oh, yeah.

03:20:41.420 Okay.

03:20:42.740 Yeah.

03:20:43.060 It's like, it's kind of just like if she had her, you know, she had her fun in college, 30, 40, 50 bodies, and then like the provider guy comes along and then, oh, let's make him wait.

03:20:56.500 It's just kind of like, it's what?

03:20:59.220 It's just very, it's a very cishet perspective.

03:21:02.060 Oh, sorry.

03:21:02.940 It's a very cishet perspective, I guess.

03:21:06.600 Just like the normative.

03:21:08.680 You just like, you know, like cisgender would just be your gender is what you were born as, and then het is heterosexuality.

03:21:15.960 So it is the social normative culture that is regarded around women and men in relationships.

03:21:22.320 Well, the vast majority of people are heterosexual, so, I mean, we are talking in generalities.

03:21:28.720 We can talk about non, we can talk about the nuances of non-binary dwarf dating, but, I mean, like, we can't.

03:21:38.060 That's, that's fine.

03:21:39.480 Yeah.

03:21:39.760 I mean, I mean.

03:21:40.540 Derek makes one super chat at $49.99.

03:21:44.480 Let's agree the body count is easier to controlling weight.

03:21:48.260 I could agree on that.

03:21:49.260 You're right.

03:21:49.640 We are choosing to sleep with the people we sleep with.

03:21:52.320 So that's a very reasonable deduction.

03:21:54.640 I think we can all agree on that one.

03:21:56.060 Body count.

03:21:58.900 And body count and weight is easier to control than height.

03:22:03.900 In fact, you can't even control your height.

03:22:05.780 You can get leg implants.

03:22:07.400 You can't actually.

03:22:08.400 I know, it's so dangerous.

03:22:10.220 Please don't do that.

03:22:11.140 I don't think I want to be Billy from freaking.

03:22:13.360 It's dangerous.

03:22:14.780 It's dangerous.

03:22:15.660 Oh my God.

03:22:16.440 I'm not Billy.

03:22:17.700 It's dangerous.

03:22:18.640 It's painful.

03:22:19.220 Don't do that.

03:22:19.400 And it costs a lot of money.

03:22:20.120 Please don't do that.

03:22:20.920 That's absurd.

03:22:21.580 Don't do that, guys.

03:22:22.520 It's like penile enlargement.

03:22:23.820 Like, please don't do that either.

03:22:24.500 Don't do that.

03:22:25.620 Guys, any short guys in the West, just get your money up.

03:22:29.460 Bend my line.

03:22:29.840 Just wear some popcorn.

03:22:30.660 Stop.

03:22:31.260 Can you guys stop interrupting?

03:22:32.660 Stop.

03:22:33.900 Guys, if you're in the West and you're short, just get your money up.

03:22:38.160 Get your passport.

03:22:39.460 Go to Latin America.

03:22:40.460 Go to Asia.

03:22:41.120 Just move.

03:22:41.620 That's facts.

03:22:42.280 Go to where you are wanted and respected.

03:22:48.320 Okay.

03:22:48.820 She's laughing, but.

03:22:50.160 No, I think it's actually a really funny sentiment because you're right.

03:22:53.140 Like, if a height is smaller in a different area, go to where you're respected.

03:22:56.980 Yeah.

03:22:57.240 I think that's, I'm not laughing at you.

03:22:58.920 I think that's actually really funny.

03:22:59.960 No, yeah.

03:23:00.300 Go to where people value.

03:23:01.640 I think it's like, yeah, go to where someone will value you.

03:23:04.240 Okay.

03:23:06.080 We got that one.

03:23:09.120 Stimproid.

03:23:09.560 Thank you for the $20 soup chat.

03:23:10.500 By the way, sorry, guys, that we're getting to these.

03:23:12.520 These probably came in like an hour plus ago, but had quite a good conversational flow there.

03:23:17.500 Please ask them, how would your father react if you told him your actual body count?

03:23:20.920 Quick five, 10 second answer.

03:23:22.800 Go ahead.

03:23:23.160 He'd probably dab me up.

03:23:24.820 Okay.

03:23:26.800 I don't really want to know.

03:23:28.540 Sorry, dad.

03:23:29.200 He's watching.

03:23:30.060 Okay.

03:23:31.140 Yeah.

03:23:31.380 When you have that conversation with him, he goes to church.

03:23:35.640 Your dad goes to church?

03:23:36.820 Yeah.

03:23:37.260 Okay.

03:23:38.420 I honestly don't know.

03:23:40.500 Okay.

03:23:41.380 I also don't know.

03:23:42.360 I feel like my dad could go either way.

03:23:43.840 He'd either be like, maybe not about it or also be like, you know what?

03:23:47.180 Your choice.

03:23:47.880 Sure.

03:23:48.340 Yeah.

03:23:48.720 I feel the end theme there would be like, it's your body, your choice.

03:23:51.480 Yo.

03:23:52.000 Hey, we got modern life dating $21.

03:23:54.580 Thank you, man.

03:23:55.160 Appreciate it.

03:23:55.740 I'm going to smoke these hoes.

03:23:58.020 Rax, there's your competition.

03:23:59.660 Modern life dating.

03:24:00.700 Yeah.

03:24:01.040 So he will be on the show on Sunday and Tuesday.

03:24:07.920 We got him on the show.

03:24:09.360 So yeah.

03:24:11.180 Be on the lookout for that.

03:24:12.800 That'll be fun.

03:24:13.360 All right.

03:24:15.620 Actually, you and him would have a really good back and forth.

03:24:18.380 Oh, God.

03:24:19.040 But anyways, Gus, 20 less of a chat.

03:24:21.000 Feminism society has lied to women and have been turned into, duh, masculine, independent

03:24:25.900 men.

03:24:26.740 Day, wanted, date, slash, marry.

03:24:30.000 Generalities equals most, not all.

03:24:31.900 The world runs in generalities.

03:24:34.260 These are exceptions, but they are not the rule.

03:24:37.480 Or is it, doesn't it go, the exception does not make the rule, but.

03:24:40.820 I agree with that and half of that.

03:24:43.360 Yeah.

03:24:45.620 Yeah.

03:24:46.140 That's, I agree pretty much.

03:24:50.120 I think.

03:24:51.060 Okay.

03:24:51.440 Let's keep it moving.

03:24:52.800 Yo, Derpington, this came in as a TTS.

03:24:54.880 Thank you so much for the support, man.

03:24:56.500 Appreciate it.

03:24:57.620 Zentience.

03:24:59.460 Did this one?

03:25:00.120 This came in as a.

03:25:00.900 Are you sure?

03:25:01.540 Cheap product.

03:25:02.120 Yeah.

03:25:03.120 Okay.

03:25:03.780 Yo, Zentience.

03:25:04.440 Dude, thank you for all the support tonight, man.

03:25:06.300 Oh, shit.

03:25:06.980 Derpington.

03:25:07.820 Women are on one side of the lock.

03:25:09.420 Yeah, we talked about this one, too.

03:25:10.240 Did this one come in as TTS?

03:25:11.840 Yeah, we did this one.

03:25:12.540 Yeah, all of them have been coming in as doubles.

03:25:14.500 Okay.

03:25:14.900 Alex Alvarez, $20 soup chat.

03:25:16.500 If this were soccer, men are strikers and women are goalkeepers.

03:25:19.580 A star striker makes many goals and a star goalkeeper doesn't allow any goals.

03:25:23.800 Okay.

03:25:23.980 We got some more analogies, I guess.

03:25:26.060 A woman's value is directly tied to her body count.

03:25:29.660 Alex, I want to clarify one thing.

03:25:31.120 I disagree with you slightly.

03:25:32.120 A woman's value in the dating marketplace and in the sexual marketplace,

03:25:36.780 her body count is related.

03:25:39.740 Her value as a human is, I mean, whatever, but yeah.

03:25:46.280 They're giving me looks, but okay.

03:25:48.120 As much as I want to keep talking about bananas, I think we might be a little short on time.

03:25:52.380 Are you guys able to stay for another 10, 15?

03:25:55.420 Okay.

03:25:56.000 I can do that.

03:25:56.700 Sure.

03:25:56.760 Can you guys push maybe even another 30?

03:25:59.480 That'll be, that'll mostly be up to Val just because she's-

03:26:02.420 Val can come through.

03:26:03.460 Come through.

03:26:05.140 Come through.

03:26:05.880 Tell you what, Val.

03:26:06.580 Val, if you, if you got, if you can do 30, if you can do 30, I will give you-

03:26:12.080 Oh my God.

03:26:12.460 Let me, let's negotiate.

03:26:13.360 Are you running with me?

03:26:13.840 Let's do a little broad negotiation, a little negotiation.

03:26:16.380 A little negotiation.

03:26:18.140 And I'll make it worth it.

03:26:19.180 Hold on.

03:26:19.960 What are you going to do for me, Brian?

03:26:21.840 What is this?

03:26:24.840 Actually, that maybe not that.

03:26:28.140 Let's see.

03:26:28.860 What about the fish?

03:26:29.880 A female, female condom.

03:26:32.820 I love that.

03:26:33.820 I will gift it to you.

03:26:34.980 I'm all good.

03:26:35.720 I'm all good.

03:26:36.660 Expired, uh, plan B.

03:26:39.300 So useful.

03:26:40.940 I didn't even get that brand.

03:26:42.260 What is that brand?

03:26:43.520 I've never seen that before.

03:26:45.220 Option two.

03:26:46.420 That is the wish version of plan B.

03:26:48.560 Oh God.

03:26:49.240 Wish.com.

03:26:50.140 Option two.

03:26:51.420 Oh my God.

03:26:52.920 Sponsored by expired option two.

03:26:55.200 As much as I love your humor, I'll have to respectfully decline.

03:26:58.920 Oh, you don't want a dental dam?

03:27:00.440 Should we do, uh, can we do 22 minutes?

03:27:02.940 How about, uh, that, that brings us to 1050.

03:27:05.020 Rock and roll.

03:27:05.600 Okay.

03:27:05.860 Rock and roll.

03:27:06.220 Yeah.

03:27:06.260 Cool.

03:27:06.800 All right.

03:27:07.400 Sweet, sweet, sweet.

03:27:08.080 Uh, let's see.

03:27:08.840 We have, uh, Eric Chilson, $20 soup chat.

03:27:11.320 Dude, where does a guy find the traditional women at, or do I need to change what I'm looking

03:27:16.940 for?

03:27:17.280 I have an answer for this.

03:27:18.700 Well, let me just, I got to just blast through the soup chats here.

03:27:21.280 Rapid fire.

03:27:21.860 Uh, Mike Davis, $20 soup chat.

03:27:23.600 Uh, I got to drop in and send some love to the Asian men out there, man, what's going on?

03:27:28.100 They blow in the place up.

03:27:29.600 We got to start a Asian dick matter, Asian dick matter movement and get them Asian men

03:27:35.000 laid, get them nukes out of Jung On's hands.

03:27:38.340 Wow.

03:27:38.640 That was a wild comment.

03:27:39.620 Okay.

03:27:40.840 That's the end part.

03:27:42.160 Okay.

03:27:42.820 Thank you, man.

03:27:43.360 So many different things there.

03:27:44.780 Yeah.

03:27:45.160 Uh, I do think, uh, I guess Asian men are struggling a little bit when it comes to, uh, dating it

03:27:49.820 seems, but, uh, unfortunate.

03:27:52.320 I agree.

03:27:52.580 I think I was reading something about how like the whole one child policy in China ended

03:27:57.760 up affecting men and dating and marriage, like a lot more than they could have perceived

03:28:02.080 because now there's more men than women.

03:28:04.100 Yep.

03:28:04.260 That is true.

03:28:04.760 And so, um, they, it's, it's crazy.

03:28:07.640 Yeah.

03:28:07.760 It's a struggle.

03:28:08.380 Well, I mean, I was more thinking of Asian American men, uh, which that doesn't really

03:28:13.900 have an impact, but it does in China, for example, that does have an impact.

03:28:17.360 But, uh, yeah, Asian American men definitely struggle, um, because it seems to be the case

03:28:23.240 that, and they've done studies on this.

03:28:25.300 And if you look at, um, they, they look at the marriage rates.

03:28:29.760 So Asian women, for example, are twice as likely to marry outside of their race as Asian

03:28:34.820 men are.

03:28:35.500 So there's definitely some biases there.

03:28:38.540 Unfortunately, Asian men are, if I was gay, if I was gay, crispy Kim, are you still in

03:28:45.660 the chat, I would go, I would date, I would almost date exclusively Asian if I were Asian

03:28:51.440 men.

03:28:51.780 I support you.

03:28:52.400 If I was gay.

03:28:53.720 Okay.

03:28:54.160 That's a little.

03:28:56.560 I think I, I think I just lost a thousand subs.

03:29:00.540 I just lost a thousand subscribers.

03:29:02.260 Live your truth.

03:29:03.020 You know what?

03:29:03.480 But crispy Kim loves you even more now.

03:29:06.280 Yo, Derpington, uh, 20, thank you, man.

03:29:08.800 The stats show women are gatekeepers, AKA you are locked.

03:29:11.780 You are like a locked door.

03:29:13.420 Jesus Christ.

03:29:14.140 Jesus Christ, lock so that analogy, God, holds more than the pencil sharpener one.

03:29:20.760 It is how the mating strategy of our species has evolved over time.

03:29:26.140 Thank you.

03:29:26.520 Thank you, Derpington.

03:29:27.760 Uh, Zentians, $50 soup chat.

03:29:29.360 This came in as a TTS.

03:29:30.560 Thank you, man.

03:29:30.840 Appreciate it.

03:29:31.840 Gus, uh, when a fact stat said that makes them feel, bruv, Gus, can you drop the, the,

03:29:38.880 the, the, the Barbados role play and just, okay.

03:29:41.940 Uh, feel some type of way where it's true.

03:29:44.040 They use sign language, shame, insults, guilt need to be right.

03:29:47.960 Man don't want to walk into a room where our friends fam has seen or heard of it.

03:29:54.280 Promiscuity.

03:29:54.680 Okay.

03:29:55.000 Damn, the family's going to know we're promiscuous.

03:29:56.940 That's a little, that's scandalous.

03:29:58.440 Gus, thank you.

03:30:00.040 The smartest man in the world.

03:30:01.060 This came in as a TTS.

03:30:02.420 Thank you, man.

03:30:02.740 Appreciate it.

03:30:03.820 Uh, Jeffrey Arnold, $1 soup chat thing or $20.

03:30:07.300 Sorry.

03:30:07.720 Stop saying that men are hypergamous.

03:30:09.220 Men are not hypergamous.

03:30:10.840 Men are polygamous.

03:30:12.240 The sexual strategy.

03:30:13.480 Oh, okay.

03:30:14.020 The sexual strategy of men is quantity over quality polygamy.

03:30:17.880 And the sexual strategy of women is quality over quantity.

03:30:21.420 Hypergamy.

03:30:22.480 Uh, Eric, pull up the hypergamy chart real quick.

03:30:25.100 I appreciate that definition.

03:30:26.700 Cause I was literally just about to ask what.

03:30:28.360 Let's get some maths in here.

03:30:31.400 Whenever.

03:30:32.240 Okay.

03:30:32.660 This is a hypergamy.

03:30:34.040 So on the left, whom men would happily partner with.

03:30:37.300 And on the right, whom women would happily partner with.

03:30:40.080 So men would be happy.

03:30:41.800 You know, they'll do across.

03:30:43.160 Right.

03:30:43.640 Women are all chasing after the top 10, top 20% of men.

03:30:48.140 Facts.

03:30:48.780 Facts.

03:30:49.220 Facts.

03:30:49.340 Where is the study?

03:30:50.080 I would like to read it.

03:30:51.020 It's real life.

03:30:52.160 That's just a gangster real life shit.

03:30:53.440 I want to know what these.

03:30:54.540 Oh, but I want to read it.

03:30:55.920 Okay.

03:30:55.940 Here.

03:30:56.720 Pull up the other.

03:30:59.140 Charts.

03:30:59.620 I asked you to pull up because it's related.

03:31:01.400 What I would like to know is what qualities do these men have in this study that women

03:31:07.260 are chasing after?

03:31:08.020 That's what I want to read.

03:31:09.120 I think it really comes down again to personal preference.

03:31:12.020 Eric, are you on the first one of these?

03:31:13.700 Well, this one says.

03:31:14.340 Okay.

03:31:14.660 So we're going to cycle through a few.

03:31:16.380 So this is the perception of male attractiveness versus female attractiveness.

03:31:20.400 This is like from hundreds of, excuse me, hundreds of thousands of, I think this is from

03:31:25.380 OkCupid, a dating app.

03:31:26.660 So men as rated by women is red and women as rated by men, that's in the gray.

03:31:33.440 So women are much harsher judges of, uh, physical attractiveness or, well, attractiveness, whereas men tend to judge women on a pretty, that's pretty reasonable bell curve right there.

03:31:46.600 So women are very harsh judges of attractiveness.

03:31:49.620 And we see this backed up by the stats released by dating apps.

03:31:52.740 Most women swipe, uh, no swipe left on the majority of men.

03:31:57.640 Let's see the other one really quick before we have you guys come in.

03:32:00.260 How men rate women on OkCupid.

03:32:02.180 This is basically the same one, but broken down a different way.

03:32:05.040 So men, you see the bell curve, this is, and on the bottom, how women rate men on OkCupid, you see much harsher judges of attractiveness.

03:32:15.160 Go ahead.

03:32:16.160 Next one.

03:32:17.340 Oh, next one.

03:32:18.780 Next one.

03:32:20.060 Okay.

03:32:20.600 This is also from OkCupid.

03:32:22.160 So this is the number of messages received versus recipients attractiveness.

03:32:27.840 The dark blue line is female.

03:32:29.500 The light blue line is male.

03:32:30.860 So in order for a male to receive an equivalent number of matches, so most attractive men get about the same amount of messages as a medium attractiveness woman, like a three.

03:32:47.060 I mean, she's above a medium.

03:32:48.280 So, well, she's a three.

03:32:49.820 Yeah.

03:32:50.040 So three, uh, a woman has to be a three.

03:32:52.160 She gets the same amount of messages as a guy who's five most attractive.

03:32:57.320 So if, if we want to extrapolate that to a 10 scale, that's 10 to a six.

03:33:03.900 So guy who's a 10 is getting the same amount of attention as a girl who's a six.

03:33:09.140 Next one, Eric.

03:33:10.020 There might be one more.

03:33:11.020 This is different.

03:33:12.300 Uh, young men driving the decline in sex share of men and women between ages of 18 and 30 reporting no sex in the past year.

03:33:19.960 This is from the GSS, the general social survey.

03:33:22.820 This, uh, the infographic is from the Washington post.

03:33:26.340 Uh, so in 2018, by the way, if anyone in chat can parse GSS data, I looked on the GSS and they actually released data for 2021.

03:33:35.900 So can someone DM me if you know how to graph GSS data, because I will make an updated, or if you can make an updated version of this and I'll publish, I'll publish it.

03:33:45.860 Um, so in 2018, 18% of women reported having no sex in the past year versus 28% of men having reported no sex in the past year.

03:33:55.480 That's between 18 and 30.

03:33:58.840 I bet that number is higher.

03:34:00.460 It's definitely higher now.

03:34:01.360 After the pandemic.

03:34:02.700 That's what I was talking about earlier.

03:34:04.100 Higher for men.

03:34:04.880 Yeah, that's what I was talking about earlier is that men from 18 to 25 are like, not getting laid at all.

03:34:10.780 Like that's the statistic.

03:34:12.100 It's kind of a bummer.

03:34:13.160 That's besides that U.S.

03:34:14.900 And that's why women are the gatekeepers of sex.

03:34:18.160 You know what?

03:34:19.240 I think it.

03:34:20.380 Oh, go ahead.

03:34:21.480 Oh, I just wanted to move on to the.

03:34:23.680 Let's move on to through these super jets here.

03:34:26.120 I only have another 10, 12 minutes.

03:34:28.080 Okay.

03:34:28.220 The delusion solipsism is over 9,000.

03:34:30.900 Hold on.

03:34:31.160 I got something for you here.

03:34:32.300 It's over 9,000.

03:34:36.020 Oh, okay.

03:34:36.420 This was a TTS.

03:34:37.300 Oh, thank you, man.

03:34:38.180 I appreciate it.

03:34:38.640 Yeah, I remember that one.

03:34:39.440 Uh, Joffrey Arnold, $20 Super Chat.

03:34:41.740 Yeah, we just saw that one.

03:34:42.540 Oh, did I already do this one?

03:34:43.380 Yeah.

03:34:43.720 We just saw these ones.

03:34:44.460 Did we do this one?

03:34:45.420 Uh, no.

03:34:45.780 This one just came out.

03:34:46.500 Madam C.J. Walker.

03:34:48.020 We love her.

03:34:48.780 Oh, in 1915 was the first self-made female millionaire.

03:34:53.060 Both men, women were oppressed.

03:34:55.000 If you didn't own land, sign up for the draft firefighter, own bank account, your voice didn't matter.

03:34:59.420 Yeah, there's a lot of misunderstandings about rights, you know, historically.

03:35:04.380 She also masked behind somebody else.

03:35:06.920 C.J. Walker was her husband.

03:35:08.300 That's why she was named Madam C.J. Walker is because she used her husband's name.

03:35:12.920 Word.

03:35:13.500 This is a conversation for, I don't even know for this podcast, but that's, that's opens up a whole conversation talking about wealth inequality.

03:35:20.280 Yeah, I mean, that's kind of what I was talking about earlier, but that's, that's a big topic.

03:35:24.380 Yeah, we'll save that.

03:35:25.240 We'll save it for next time.

03:35:26.280 Yeah.

03:35:26.900 All right.

03:35:27.080 We have Stephen Aide.

03:35:28.580 Thank you for the $20 soup chat, man.

03:35:29.880 Appreciate it.

03:35:30.400 Actions and choices have consequences.

03:35:31.880 That applies to everyone.

03:35:33.040 We are all at the same level and have the same access to information needed to educate ourselves, to better our lives.

03:35:39.360 Stop blaming others for your failure.

03:35:41.220 By the way, guys, get your last minute soup chats in if you want.

03:35:44.040 Uh, we're going to be wrapping here pretty soon.

03:35:46.020 Uh, Louis Brito, $20 soup chat.

03:35:47.640 Inflation is also women's fault.

03:35:49.680 They've.

03:35:51.240 Sorry, sorry, sorry.

03:35:52.240 Oh, man.

03:35:55.580 I'm so sorry.

03:35:56.240 We're good.

03:35:59.720 Is Brandon your brother?

03:36:01.440 Oh, my fault.

03:36:03.600 Are we cheering him on?

03:36:04.820 Did he win a game?

03:36:06.040 No.

03:36:11.680 No.

03:36:12.080 No.

03:36:12.120 No.

03:36:12.140 No.

03:36:12.180 No.

03:36:12.200 No.

03:36:12.220 No.

03:36:12.240 No.

03:36:12.300 No.

03:36:12.340 No.

03:36:12.380 No.

03:36:12.780 No.

03:36:12.880 No.

03:36:13.300 No.

03:36:13.380 No.

03:36:13.800 No.

03:36:14.300 No.

03:36:14.380 No.

03:36:14.780 No.

03:36:14.880 No.

03:36:15.380 No.

03:36:15.880 No.

03:36:16.380 No.

03:36:16.880 No.

03:36:17.380 No.

03:36:17.880 No.

03:36:18.380 No.

03:36:18.880 No.

03:36:19.380 No.

03:36:19.880 No.

03:36:20.380 No.

03:36:20.880 No.

03:36:21.880 No.

03:36:21.940 It's a very long track.

03:36:26.240 Let's go, Brandon.

03:36:27.800 Let's go, Brandon.

03:36:28.440 Oh, God.

03:36:29.380 Okay.

03:36:30.080 Thank you, Louis Brito.

03:36:31.740 Oh, look at that.

03:36:33.320 Guys, really quick.

03:36:34.640 Look at that avatar.

03:36:36.280 He's playing the guitar.

03:36:37.220 Maybe he's a bassist.

03:36:38.580 I don't know.

03:36:38.840 I like the fedora.

03:36:39.620 That's all I'm noticing.

03:36:40.240 And he's got a fedora.

03:36:41.780 I'm noticing the fedora.

03:36:42.960 That's the first thing.

03:36:43.100 Would you guys date him?

03:36:44.740 No.

03:36:45.160 Because he's a friend with Brandon.

03:36:47.500 No.

03:36:47.880 Oh.

03:36:47.940 No.

03:36:49.100 But, you know, maybe if he wasn't buddies with Brandon, then I'd happily have a nice conversation

03:36:54.320 with him.

03:36:54.740 It's the fedora.

03:36:55.220 It's the fedora for me.

03:36:56.580 It's a no.

03:36:56.880 All right.

03:36:57.500 Wait, really quick.

03:36:59.240 My lady.

03:36:59.760 My lady.

03:37:00.680 Wait.

03:37:01.320 So what do you guys think about fedoras?

03:37:02.940 Just be honest.

03:37:03.300 I love them.

03:37:04.180 I love them.

03:37:04.820 Ew.

03:37:05.100 You know, actually, it depends on the person.

03:37:07.160 Oh, come on.

03:37:07.460 I'm so sorry.

03:37:08.800 No.

03:37:09.340 As a dermatology professional, I really enjoy the show.

03:37:13.680 Icon.

03:37:14.320 Icon.

03:37:14.680 Can you please keep it on?

03:37:15.780 I'm hearing a lot of cat.

03:37:16.900 I'm not going to lie here.

03:37:18.380 You know, if someone comes up to me with a fedora, I'm just going to pull off.

03:37:21.300 You should have done the whole interview in that.

03:37:23.160 I might assume that you're in the queer community if you have a fedora.

03:37:26.200 Yeah.

03:37:26.600 Yeah.

03:37:27.240 That's what I assume.

03:37:28.160 Like, we could vibe with that, maybe.

03:37:30.320 No.

03:37:30.700 No.

03:37:30.920 No.

03:37:31.100 No.

03:37:31.180 No.

03:37:31.720 Your sexuality.

03:37:32.540 Not even close, actually.

03:37:34.780 Wow.

03:37:35.380 One.

03:37:35.700 There wasn't even time for the fedora, but I think it's passed.

03:37:37.720 Can you please say m'lady?

03:37:38.780 Can you please say m'lady?

03:37:39.980 M'lady?

03:37:42.080 I'll tell you what.

03:37:42.920 I'll say m'lady if you guys do the ahi gal.

03:37:48.420 Okay.

03:37:49.100 Did I say it right?

03:37:49.620 I'll do an ara ara.

03:37:51.240 If you know an ara ara.

03:37:52.000 I know what that is.

03:37:52.940 I want both, actually.

03:37:53.960 Both?

03:37:54.840 God, you're so demanding.

03:37:56.400 You get one out of her.

03:37:57.780 One out of me.

03:37:58.140 I want both.

03:37:58.780 I need both.

03:37:59.840 I need both.

03:38:00.920 I'll do the ahi gal if she does the ara ara.

03:38:02.500 There we go.

03:38:03.200 No, both.

03:38:03.500 Then you get both.

03:38:04.540 That's what you asked for.

03:38:05.480 I'm an ara girl.

03:38:06.320 I'm not an ara ara girl.

03:38:07.400 I'm an ara ara girl.

03:38:08.500 Let's up the ante.

03:38:09.920 If he puts on the fedora after me.

03:38:13.020 I'm not putting my fedora on.

03:38:15.020 Let's go, buddy.

03:38:17.040 Is there a second fedora?

03:38:19.340 Rex, get that fedora on, baby.

03:38:21.700 Pop party?

03:38:22.140 Please.

03:38:23.240 Oh, he's going to put another hat on?

03:38:24.480 Yes.

03:38:25.200 No, it's got to be a fedora.

03:38:26.900 Uh-uh.

03:38:27.320 No, no, no.

03:38:28.160 It's got to be a fedora.

03:38:29.280 It's not the same.

03:38:30.280 It's got to be the fedora, man.

03:38:31.400 It's got to be a fedora.

03:38:32.660 What kind of hat is that?

03:38:32.880 If you want me to do in a hangout, it has got to be a fedora.

03:38:35.580 He's a unicorn warrior.

03:38:37.380 Don't worry.

03:38:37.820 It's World War I.

03:38:38.320 Unicorn warrior.

03:38:38.940 It's World War I.

03:38:39.880 Okay.

03:38:40.440 Okay.

03:38:40.660 Don't worry.

03:38:40.980 That was a nice question.

03:38:44.600 Genuinely.

03:38:45.400 Is it backwards?

03:38:46.180 It's so little.

03:38:46.880 No, that's the fact.

03:38:47.760 That's the fact.

03:38:48.220 Oh, my God.

03:38:48.700 Weirdly, that looks good on you.

03:38:50.040 These are not the terms and conditions I expected.

03:38:52.200 Very handsome with the pickle.

03:38:56.180 It's a pickle haba.

03:38:57.780 That's what it's called?

03:38:58.680 Oh.

03:38:59.040 Did you try to say it?

03:39:00.020 Pickle haba?

03:39:01.000 Pickle haba.

03:39:01.780 Hell yeah.

03:39:02.360 That was good.

03:39:02.540 You look good in gold.

03:39:03.880 Thank you.

03:39:04.560 Gangster.

03:39:05.060 Gold looks nice.

03:39:05.900 Okay.

03:39:06.280 So, go ahead.

03:39:08.160 Do what?

03:39:08.820 I want both.

03:39:09.820 No.

03:39:10.340 Okay.

03:39:10.720 We said both for the fedora.

03:39:12.280 Right.

03:39:12.800 I'll do the a hangout.

03:39:13.840 These are not the conditions I expected.

03:39:14.780 Okay.

03:39:15.080 Go ahead.

03:39:15.380 Go, go, go.

03:39:15.960 Unfortunately.

03:39:16.520 Okay.

03:39:16.840 So, do you want me to make a noise or do you just want me to do the face?

03:39:20.160 Whatever.

03:39:20.900 Okay.

03:39:21.100 Okay.

03:39:21.340 Okay.

03:39:21.660 I would like to know both.

03:39:23.620 Yeah.

03:39:23.980 Well, okay.

03:39:24.820 I have no idea what you want to do.

03:39:25.480 You got this.

03:39:26.220 Let's go.

03:39:27.660 Wait.

03:39:28.020 The microphone was blocking.

03:39:29.240 Wait.

03:39:29.420 You got to move the mic.

03:39:30.180 You got to move the mic.

03:39:31.340 Okay.

03:39:32.320 Okay.

03:39:32.880 I'm to the side.

03:39:34.500 No.

03:39:34.920 You keep blocking it.

03:39:36.020 Here.

03:39:36.200 Move it to the corner.

03:39:37.900 I think that was acceptable.

03:39:39.300 Can you do it again?

03:39:40.260 Oh, my goodness.

03:39:41.700 Can you do it again?

03:39:42.620 Oh, that one.

03:39:43.200 Okay.

03:39:43.880 Yeah.

03:39:44.280 No.

03:39:44.940 Yeah.

03:39:45.160 Oh, my God.

03:39:52.480 Oh, my God.

03:39:52.800 Oh, my God.

03:39:52.980 Oh, my God.

03:39:53.120 Oh, my God.

03:39:53.260 Wait.

03:39:53.400 What was that called?

03:39:54.080 It's called an ahagal face.

03:39:55.460 Oh, my God.

03:39:55.860 Yeah.

03:39:56.220 Don't ask me how I know what that is.

03:39:58.860 I think we all know how you knew that.

03:40:01.260 Okay.

03:40:01.600 Let's.

03:40:01.980 Ara, ara.

03:40:02.700 Okay.

03:40:04.100 Ara, ara.

03:40:05.120 Wait.

03:40:05.440 Can you look into the camera?

03:40:06.560 Sure.

03:40:06.980 Yeah.

03:40:07.140 Yeah.

03:40:07.360 Ready?

03:40:09.980 Ara, ara.

03:40:12.220 Okay.

03:40:12.640 That's it.

03:40:12.860 That's all you get.

03:40:14.800 That's the show.

03:40:15.800 Take it or leave it.

03:40:16.940 Take it or leave it.

03:40:18.280 You're welcome.

03:40:19.360 My ladies.

03:40:20.180 Oh, no.

03:40:21.880 We got that on camera.

03:40:23.160 We got it, boys.

03:40:24.120 We did.

03:40:24.540 My lady.

03:40:25.440 Okay.

03:40:25.720 Sorry for.

03:40:26.080 Okay.

03:40:26.520 Super.

03:40:27.080 All right.

03:40:27.540 We got.

03:40:27.900 Let's do these super chats.

03:40:29.520 Yo, we got.

03:40:30.300 Okay.

03:40:30.760 That was a TTS.

03:40:31.620 Thank you, man.

03:40:31.960 Appreciate it.

03:40:32.700 Mike Davis.

03:40:33.180 The black dude is based.

03:40:34.200 He may be my long lost son.

03:40:36.700 What?

03:40:37.260 What?

03:40:38.940 I always think you need to.

03:40:40.940 What?

03:40:42.020 Is that a thing?

03:40:44.940 Why do you have Mike Davis's picture?

03:40:47.120 Why?

03:40:47.780 Oh, my God.

03:40:50.140 There's a little bit of a resemblance.

03:40:52.040 No.

03:40:52.640 Not at all.

03:40:53.780 You know what?

03:40:54.400 It's in the cheekbones.

03:40:54.820 Wait.

03:40:55.000 Can you smile?

03:40:55.740 The cheekbones are a little.

03:40:56.660 I don't smile.

03:40:57.700 No, the cheekbones.

03:40:58.700 He kind of looked like Deion Sanders.

03:41:00.740 Low key.

03:41:01.460 You'd be handsome if he smiled.

03:41:02.920 I think the cheekbones are there.

03:41:04.440 By the way, he owns several Burger King restaurants on the East Coast.

03:41:09.420 So just saying.

03:41:10.040 Like Davis says?

03:41:10.940 Wow.

03:41:11.280 I love that for you, Mike.

03:41:12.320 Wait.

03:41:12.640 So I'll.

03:41:12.860 Can you read the super chat, actually?

03:41:15.540 The black dude is based.

03:41:16.960 He may be my long lost son.

03:41:19.020 I always knew you'd be special, but I could not be happier as a dad.

03:41:23.080 This shit is weird, bro.

03:41:24.020 Wait.

03:41:24.240 Read it.

03:41:24.720 Read it.

03:41:24.940 Come on.

03:41:25.280 Come on.

03:41:25.540 To see you gatekeeping these hoes.

03:41:27.580 Your ancestors are smiling from above.

03:41:29.860 We'll sit side by side in heaven.

03:41:31.480 What?

03:41:32.660 I'm never going to die, bro.

03:41:35.220 Oh, okay.

03:41:36.340 Immortal already.

03:41:37.380 Wait.

03:41:37.580 Like, are you talking about like transhumanism?

03:41:39.560 Like living forever?

03:41:40.500 That type of shit?

03:41:41.060 Wait.

03:41:41.180 Is that what it's called?

03:41:42.400 Transhumanism.

03:41:42.720 I never knew that that was the name for it.

03:41:44.480 Well, I mean, there's a whole bunch of terms, but I mean, there's also.

03:41:47.480 Are you assuming my humanism?

03:41:48.880 Oh, dangerous.

03:41:52.720 Well, transhumanism is like, it's a futurist movement.

03:41:55.840 And there's this thing called, well, there's a company called Alcor Life Extension, where

03:42:02.780 they actually freeze you upon death.

03:42:04.460 Oh, I've heard about that.

03:42:05.100 Like Disney.

03:42:05.760 Whoa.

03:42:06.980 Yeah.

03:42:07.380 Whoa.

03:42:07.880 Wait.

03:42:08.080 That's like Futurama.

03:42:09.300 So me and we might try to sign up for that shit.

03:42:10.820 Don't they do it too where they can put your body and like you can become a tree?

03:42:14.320 Wait, so.

03:42:14.780 Well, that's another thing.

03:42:15.880 That's another thing.

03:42:16.700 Do you die first and then they freeze you?

03:42:19.380 Or do you freeze before you die?

03:42:22.200 Let's talk after the show.

03:42:24.040 This is a different topic.

03:42:25.360 Thank you for the TTS, Derek.

03:42:27.120 Thank you for the TTS, Smartest Man in the World.

03:42:29.700 I think we got this one.

03:42:31.360 Thank you for the TTS, Derpington.

03:42:32.960 Much appreciated.

03:42:33.820 Thank you for the other TTS, Derpington.

03:42:37.160 Did this one not come through?

03:42:39.460 Yeah, this one came through, actually.

03:42:40.820 Yeah, the Pennywise.

03:42:41.560 She addressed it.

03:42:42.240 Okay.

03:42:42.480 Yeah.

03:42:42.740 Thank you.

03:42:43.500 Derpington.

03:42:44.320 Dude, Derpington.

03:42:45.240 Oh, this is the rating.

03:42:47.300 The thing that's funny, though, is he insulted you and then the next one he goes, you're nine.

03:42:51.480 Starting with Pennywise, nine, six, five, two, six.

03:42:54.740 We're both sixes.

03:42:56.020 Killed us.

03:42:56.400 All right.

03:42:58.060 Well, I think he gave you a five.

03:43:02.000 Oh, I did.

03:43:02.700 I'm dyslexic, actually.

03:43:04.740 Nine, six, five.

03:43:05.320 You're right.

03:43:05.920 Oh, that fucking sucks.

03:43:06.780 So we're sixes.

03:43:07.140 Oh, they let Kiki out again?

03:43:08.840 No, poor Kiki.

03:43:10.720 God.

03:43:11.020 I give her a 10.

03:43:12.200 Even though this feels weird.

03:43:13.160 Oh, okay.

03:43:15.140 Oh, yeah.

03:43:15.440 Can we get an ooh?

03:43:16.400 Yeah, you just did.

03:43:17.320 Oh, okay.

03:43:17.840 Cool.

03:43:18.380 All right.

03:43:20.000 Thank you for that, TTS man.

03:43:21.720 Yo, Christian Pabone.

03:43:22.780 Can the rating question start out with a call?

03:43:24.000 Oh, okay.

03:43:24.880 It came in as TTS.

03:43:25.720 Thank you, man.

03:43:26.700 Derpington, $20 super chat.

03:43:27.900 Someone recommended.

03:43:28.880 We only have like four more super chats here.

03:43:31.840 Someone recommended Alan Watts in the chat.

03:43:34.220 Yep.

03:43:34.620 Died too soon.

03:43:35.400 Alan is amazing.

03:43:36.060 Also, check out Ram Dass.

03:43:38.120 Terrence McKenna.

03:43:39.060 Oh, yeah.

03:43:39.360 Ram Dass is great.

03:43:39.980 Ram Dass is really cool.

03:43:41.620 Spurring.

03:43:42.080 What up from Santa Barbara?

03:43:43.180 Hey, what's up, man?

03:43:44.180 805.

03:43:45.140 805.

03:43:45.600 Live or die.

03:43:46.040 Okay.

03:43:46.700 Loving this panel.

03:43:47.560 Lots of nuanced conversation happening.

03:43:49.580 Question.

03:43:50.040 As a man, how do you meet new people without dating apps?

03:43:53.540 Meeting in person is my preference, but it's just hard to meet new people often.

03:43:58.100 Very valid.

03:43:58.700 I think activities.

03:43:59.880 Activities.

03:44:00.340 Hobbies.

03:44:00.660 Activities.

03:44:01.380 Get into hobbies.

03:44:02.040 There's groups and stuff that, you know, intramural sports and shit, but it's tough, dude.

03:44:06.720 It's tough.

03:44:07.320 It's really hard.

03:44:07.780 Can I give them a suggestion real quick?

03:44:09.260 It's like in 2023, you got to have like a popping social circle.

03:44:12.740 Yeah.

03:44:13.160 You know what I'm saying?

03:44:13.840 Like girls are going to refer you to other girls if you're popping yourself, you know?

03:44:19.740 So just meet other men who are like doing big shit and then they're going to invite

03:44:24.320 you to parties and then you meet girls like that.

03:44:27.020 Sweet.

03:44:27.680 All right.

03:44:28.280 I think we just got three more.

03:44:29.460 Christian Pabone, thank you for the $20 soup chat.

03:44:32.080 Don't confuse equity with balance in nature.

03:44:35.200 And then we've got Ron Burkendee here, $20 soup chat.

03:44:38.740 As someone who's recently binged a lot of your content, it's very interesting to see the

03:44:42.720 difference in combativeness between the women with high body counts versus the women with

03:44:46.440 low body counts.

03:44:48.400 Word.

03:44:49.720 True.

03:44:51.240 True.

03:44:52.340 Although, you know what?

03:44:53.820 We do have women who they have low body counts themselves and they actually, like

03:44:59.320 they'll defend high body counts too.

03:45:01.540 Because they be capping.

03:45:02.400 That's why.

03:45:02.740 This is the least argumentative I've ever been in my life.

03:45:05.500 This is the least.

03:45:06.320 Okay.

03:45:06.500 We have to get you back on.

03:45:07.840 Yeah.

03:45:09.440 All right.

03:45:10.680 Okay.

03:45:11.040 That was a TTS.

03:45:13.160 Did it?

03:45:13.520 Did this one come through as a TTS?

03:45:15.180 We did see that.

03:45:16.100 Oh, yeah.

03:45:16.420 Yeah.

03:45:16.700 Okay.

03:45:17.280 All right.

03:45:18.760 Last two.

03:45:19.520 Derpington, $20 soup chat.

03:45:20.800 Being fat and still deserving respect is not the same as being fat and being entitled

03:45:25.040 to a relationship with someone.

03:45:26.120 Oh, God.

03:45:26.360 No one's entitled to a relationship with anybody.

03:45:28.020 Yeah.

03:45:28.180 We're not talking about entitlement.

03:45:28.820 Oh, my God.

03:45:29.860 Derpy derp.

03:45:31.040 Oh, no.

03:45:31.560 Derpington.

03:45:32.340 There is a woman who had this really viral TikTok.

03:45:36.320 She was in a yellow dress.

03:45:37.540 I don't know if you saw it.

03:45:38.360 And she said that it's discrimination and fat phobia if you're not willing to date someone

03:45:44.980 who's obese.

03:45:46.980 But I think, ultimately, it's preferences, you know?

03:45:49.260 Yeah.

03:45:49.500 I think that's preference.

03:45:50.840 And I also think that's a way more complex issue.

03:45:53.820 Yeah.

03:45:54.140 All right.

03:45:54.520 Last one here.

03:45:55.700 Oh, Mangu King.

03:45:56.620 Tuning in.

03:45:57.540 What's up, man?

03:45:58.180 I don't know if you were here last stream, but thank you.

03:46:00.480 Leonardo Nocaprio.

03:46:01.480 Brian plays footsie with these girls under the table.

03:46:03.480 What the fuck?

03:46:04.560 What?

03:46:05.300 Legs can't reach.

03:46:06.220 By the way, Leonardo Nocaprio.

03:46:08.200 I think we did.

03:46:08.820 What a great name.

03:46:09.180 I remember you saying we missed one of your super chats a couple streams ago.

03:46:12.460 I want to apologize for that.

03:46:13.460 Sometimes we've had a lot of chat volume recently, so I do apologize that we missed it.

03:46:17.500 If you send me a DM on Instagram, let me know what the super chat was.

03:46:21.400 I'll read it on our next stream because I do try to cat.

03:46:26.420 If I missed any, I will try to get them on the following stream.

03:46:29.280 So Mangu King here with our last super chat.

03:46:31.220 Thank you, man.

03:46:31.620 No one will body shame you if you take care of your body.

03:46:33.560 I lost 53 pounds in four months.

03:46:35.940 Torn ligaments on left knee and broken back.

03:46:38.480 Crazy what you can accomplish when you are not lazy.

03:46:40.740 Most issues we face are as a result of laziness.

03:46:44.280 That's true.

03:46:44.880 Okay.

03:46:45.260 So before I do our outro here, does anyone have a final?

03:46:48.320 Yeah.

03:46:49.440 Oh, last thing.

03:46:51.120 Okay.

03:46:51.820 Twitch shout outs, and then we're going to wrap.

03:46:53.940 Okay.

03:46:54.280 So let's see.

03:46:57.080 Beach.

03:46:58.400 We already did Cheeks, right?

03:47:00.000 Thank you for the Prime.

03:47:00.900 Derek, thank you for the follow.

03:47:02.000 Guys, open up a Twitch tab, twitch.tv slash whatever.

03:47:06.640 Drop us a follow.

03:47:07.280 Drop us a Prime sub.

03:47:08.660 We have, I can't read that.

03:47:11.420 Hold on.

03:47:13.000 Look.

03:47:13.240 I saw you look.

03:47:14.160 I saw you look.

03:47:14.860 Okay.

03:47:14.880 Thank you.

03:47:15.120 I saw you look.

03:47:15.680 Thank you for the follow on the Prime.

03:47:17.680 JR Tokens, thank you for the follow.

03:47:19.380 Agent Ray, thank you for the follow.

03:47:21.180 Interview, thank you for the follow.

03:47:22.980 Bamba, thank you for the follow.

03:47:24.800 Zyphos, thank you for the follow.

03:47:25.780 Derek, thank you for the tier one sub.

03:47:28.780 Appreciate it, man.

03:47:30.240 Nachi Shinobi, thank you for the follow.

03:47:32.300 Official, official fudge, thank you for the follow.

03:47:36.600 Peace Malarkey, thank you for the follow.

03:47:40.180 Cheek Claposaurus, thank you for the follow.

03:47:42.940 Ron Burgundy, thank you for the follow.

03:47:45.580 Shazwazio, I butchered that one.

03:47:47.780 Thank you for the follow.

03:47:48.720 Okay.

03:47:49.060 Before I do our outro, if anyone has a final thought, otherwise I'm happy to wrap this up here.

03:47:56.160 Dating is hard, and we're all just trying our best here, so, you know.

03:48:01.240 Okay.

03:48:02.300 And I would love to say, not all women are out to get you.

03:48:05.120 A lot of us are truly, truly rooting for you.

03:48:08.100 Yeah, 100%.

03:48:09.400 I would like to say, be open-minded to new experience.

03:48:14.200 And also, my page is only $3 right now.

03:48:16.200 Ooh!

03:48:17.200 My page is also only $5 right now.

03:48:21.800 Oh.

03:48:23.340 Yes.

03:48:23.960 Is there, like, a whatever coupon code they can use?

03:48:26.820 It's $3.

03:48:27.800 Oh, okay.

03:48:28.160 There's no coupon code.

03:48:28.620 But you know what?

03:48:29.340 Actually, you know what?

03:48:29.860 We put it on sale for the podcast.

03:48:31.100 I'll cut you a deal.

03:48:32.020 If you tell me that you came from this podcast, I will give you a free gift.

03:48:36.020 I can't say what that gift is on here, because it will get me banned, but I will give you a free gift.

03:48:39.580 You know what?

03:48:40.080 I'll go with that as well.

03:48:41.220 If you say that you're coming from the podcast, I'll send you something for free.

03:48:44.420 Wow.

03:48:44.940 And then, Rax, where can the people find you?

03:48:47.760 Find me on IG, KingRaxo, R-A-C-S-O.

03:48:51.780 You can find me on IG, I mean, on TikTok, too.

03:48:55.000 I just got on YouTube.

03:48:57.060 I'm on Twitter, too.

03:48:58.900 And my last comment that I want to say is that this is the easiest dating market of all time.

03:49:04.360 If you have no girls, then you have a problem.

03:49:06.460 So hit my line if you guys need some.

03:49:08.860 I got you.

03:49:10.140 Dating coach.

03:49:10.780 Dating coach, guys.

03:49:11.440 Oh, wait.

03:49:11.640 I want to say thank you really quick.

03:49:13.020 Yeah.

03:49:13.520 Everyone who reached out on the comments and shouted me out for my sobriety, I really appreciate you guys.

03:49:18.480 Yes.

03:49:18.880 Mr. Andrew Clark, you can go to my DMs and we can argue over there.

03:49:24.320 Oh.

03:49:26.280 Okay.

03:49:26.760 You two, anything?

03:49:28.380 Yeah.

03:49:28.960 Instagram, Flamin' Hot Shito.

03:49:30.560 I'm also on TikTok, but I can't post anything.

03:49:32.640 Wait.

03:49:33.060 Just can you show the armpit one more time?

03:49:36.600 Wow.

03:49:37.620 It's just going to be a thumbnail.

03:49:38.280 Okay.

03:49:38.500 Good times.

03:49:38.940 Good times.

03:49:39.480 Well, if you're down, we'll have you back.

03:49:40.840 We'll discuss the nuances of dating with armpit hair.

03:49:43.280 I'll be sniffing that.

03:49:43.680 You know what?

03:49:44.000 I'm happy to do that.

03:49:45.040 That sounds great.

03:49:45.500 Okay.

03:49:45.700 We can all talk about dating in foreign countries if you want.

03:49:47.900 Oh.

03:49:48.360 I don't know.

03:49:48.880 Let's do that.

03:49:49.380 Let's do that.

03:49:50.060 All right.

03:49:50.720 Guys, thank you for tuning in tonight.

03:49:52.280 Oh.

03:49:52.620 Oh.

03:49:52.840 Sorry.

03:49:53.340 Sorry.

03:49:53.540 Go ahead.

03:49:53.820 I don't really have.

03:49:54.600 I mean, I would say like the same thing.

03:49:56.440 You know, don't hold yourself to, how would I say this?

03:50:01.480 Don't limit yourself anyways.

03:50:02.980 Like, I think there's lots of things to be had.

03:50:04.500 I think you can make judgments about people.

03:50:05.840 But again, don't limit yourself.

03:50:07.160 People can be the exception.

03:50:09.220 Sure.

03:50:09.700 Absolutely.

03:50:10.260 Okay.

03:50:10.440 Love yourself, everyone.

03:50:11.900 Kiki.

03:50:13.500 Okay.

03:50:13.980 Kiki.

03:50:15.100 Great.

03:50:15.560 Well, I thought it was a good panel.

03:50:17.420 I know it got heated a bit, but I think it's good to have some debate.

03:50:20.480 And I appreciate you guys bringing the heat on some stuff.

03:50:24.040 So guys, thank you for tuning in tonight.

03:50:26.060 You could have been doing anything else, but you were here with me.

03:50:28.480 I appreciate that.

03:50:29.780 Thanks to everyone who super chatted and supports the show.

03:50:32.540 Really appreciate it.

03:50:33.200 Especially after the TikTok, we got kicked out of the creator fund.

03:50:35.960 So I appreciate, I think because we talk about some more risque subjects and stuff related

03:50:41.920 to sex.

03:50:42.400 You guys are on TikTok.

03:50:43.720 We're familiar.

03:50:44.680 It's super strict on TikTok.

03:50:46.220 So you guys have probably dealt with bands and stuff.

03:50:48.180 I know.

03:50:48.200 I get bopped a lot.

03:50:49.700 Yeah.

03:50:50.260 This is why I don't use it anymore.

03:50:51.140 I got fucked by just showing like a, I showed that I took after dab.

03:50:54.980 Like it was like me after I took a dab.

03:50:56.540 Anything drugs too?

03:50:57.240 No, they won't do it.

03:50:58.400 Anything drugs too?

03:50:58.900 I got so late.

03:50:59.760 Yeah.

03:50:59.780 Say what you will about YouTube, but they're TikTok super strict.

03:51:03.180 So anyways, yeah.

03:51:04.240 Thanks to everyone who super chatted, supported the show.

03:51:06.120 Really appreciate it.

03:51:07.560 Big thank you to the panel for coming tonight.

03:51:09.460 Especially some of you came from LA, right?

03:51:13.000 Three hours away.

03:51:14.340 So, so, oh yeah.

03:51:15.560 Him too.

03:51:16.060 Thank you guys for coming.

03:51:17.360 Really appreciate it.

03:51:18.260 And you guys were great panelists.

03:51:19.740 Thank you so much.

03:51:21.020 And big shout out to our chat mods, Zach, Candice, Nemesis, Urmeshi, and Blair, our new mod.

03:51:25.980 Thanks to Eric, our top producer.

03:51:28.380 Killing it as always.

03:51:30.040 Can we get some W's in the chat?

03:51:31.140 Shout out to Eric.

03:51:32.060 Yeah.

03:51:32.580 Shout out to Eric.

03:51:34.240 Eric deserves all the claps.

03:51:36.000 Yes, yes, yes.

03:51:37.120 Oh, he's, he's dragging it over.

03:51:38.680 Okay.

03:51:39.560 And, uh, yeah.

03:51:40.860 Oh, also thank you, Chaz, for, uh, helping out behind the scenes and guys, we will be

03:51:45.740 live again Sunday at 7 PM Pacific.

03:51:48.700 We have a special guest coming on, uh, modern life dating.

03:51:52.300 Anyways, guys, that's it.

03:51:53.360 Thanks again to the panel.

03:51:54.160 Thank you guys.

03:51:54.700 Thanks for tuning in.

03:51:55.740 And, uh, we will see you guys next time.

03:51:57.640 Have a good night, guys.

03:51:58.460 Stay safe.

03:51:59.420 Bye.

03:51:59.720 See you guys.

03:52:00.380 Good night, Gracie.

03:52:01.080 Bye.

03:52:01.160 Bye.

03:52:01.180 Bye.

03:52:01.200 Bye.

03:52:01.220 Bye.

03:52:01.260 Bye.

03:52:01.280 Bye.

03:52:01.300 Bye.

03:52:01.340 Bye.

03:52:01.360 Bye.

03:52:01.760 Bye.

03:52:02.300 Bye.

Whatever Podcast - February 05, 2023

Dating Talk #49

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