Whatever Podcast - Dating Talk #5

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00:01:01.980 let's get right into it. We're going to have the guests introduce themselves. So please tell us your

00:01:07.280 name, age, occupation, school major, and current relationship status. And we're going to start

00:01:13.160 over here with Gabby. Hi, I'm Gabby. I'm a college student at UCSB. I'm studying Soc and I'm 21.

00:01:21.200 I'm single. And yeah, Insta's at Gabby Kalen. Okay, I'm Morgan. I'm 19. I'm currently not enrolled in

00:01:31.360 school right now. And all my socials are Momo.wood. I'm Estefany. I'm 20. I am in a relationship.

00:01:43.240 Um, I do have a podcast as well, um, biceps and bullshit on Spotify and Apple podcasts. And my

00:01:53.120 Instagram is at your fit mommy. I'm also in a relationship too. You, you gave your relationship

00:02:01.460 status though. Okay. Yeah. Um, I'm Vina. I'm also a student at UCSB. I'm studying architecture right

00:02:08.580 now and my relationship status is complicated. What does that mean? What does complicated mean?

00:02:18.000 Um, there's no one I would officially call my boyfriend right now. So we're going to go with

00:02:26.100 complicated. It's complicated. But are you currently like, is there a guy you're talking to? Yeah,

00:02:31.460 I would say that. Okay. Got it. Interesting. Okay. Hi, my name's Naomi. I'm 20 years old. I'm

00:02:38.160 currently a fourth year at UCSB. I study global studies. Um, I'm also a waitress at Midsa. Um,

00:02:46.440 my relationship status is in a relationship as of recently. Um, and I actually work with Raffaella

00:02:53.500 here. Yeah. Hello. My name is Raffaella Griffith. I am a psychology student at Santa Barbara City

00:02:59.840 College. Um, I am single at the moment and I'm also, yeah, like Naomi said, I'm a waitress

00:03:06.640 at Midsa. Rock and roll. Cool. And you, you said your relationship status is single, correct?

00:03:14.140 Okay. Got it. Got it. Okay. See what, so what does that mean? Single? Like you're not, is there

00:03:23.780 a guy you're talking to? For me? No, I just, I have like no like relationships with any guys at

00:03:31.120 the moment in that sense, romantic way. When, when was your last relationship? My last relationship

00:03:37.540 was last year. Um, my ex and I broke up then and we were dating for two years. Why did he dump you?

00:03:45.260 Oh, good question. He did dump me. Oh my. I'm assuming, I'm assuming there. He did. Yes,

00:03:52.120 he actually did. Oh, he did. Um, so it was complicated. Um, I would say like at that time

00:03:57.740 I wasn't really the right mindset to be in a relationship. I was not very mature and there's

00:04:03.700 a lot of things I need to work on. Um, yeah. Okay. Okay. By the way, we have a comment here

00:04:09.840 in the, uh, chat. Somebody, Justin Kelly is saying that my mic is a little blown out. Uh,

00:04:15.820 can you guys in the chat just, uh, let us know, is my microphone a little bit too loud?

00:04:22.480 Can you guys let us know? Uh, one, two, three. Sorry guys, we're doing it live. We're still

00:04:28.480 getting it figured out. We've been having a little bit of some audio issues. So, uh, yeah,

00:04:34.680 let me know if it sounds a bit too loud, but, uh, so the topic of the, uh, show today and,

00:04:44.200 uh, actually, you know what, Eric, why don't I have you pull up the, uh, the little chart we have.

00:04:52.780 Okay. So if you can see this, Eric, um, if you, uh, we're blocking a little bit,

00:04:59.600 this is a chart of Leonardo DiCaprio and he apparently, he refuses to date a woman over 25.

00:05:07.420 You'll see that in orange is Leonardo DiCaprio's age and then below it's the age of all his

00:05:16.340 girlfriends. I've seen this before. This is familiar to me. Yeah. So, uh, Leonardo DiCaprio is

00:05:22.720 certainly an outlier, but that'll kind of bring us into our first topic, our first question.

00:05:29.700 And, uh, Eric, if you want to go ahead and just bring it back and you guys are free to share your

00:05:33.840 thoughts on that chart too. But, uh, what do you guys think about age gaps in dating? And just,

00:05:40.360 I want to make it perfectly clear. I'm referring exclusively to adult relationships. Both people

00:05:45.560 are over 18. So for example, a 35 year old dating a 25 year old. Uh, and we're going to start with

00:05:54.040 Raphael La. Raphael La. Okay. Um, so this is such a tricky question for me because I think it all kind

00:06:03.720 of is like circumstantial. Like, um, I don't know, like me personally, I don't really, I'm not really

00:06:10.800 attracted to older men. Um, and I feel like it would be, I don't know, I'm uncomfortable when

00:06:16.480 older guys are into me, like in that sense. So I probably would not date someone older in the

00:06:21.500 sense of like, I don't know, 10 years. I was going to say what age gap. Yeah. I think like 10 years

00:06:27.540 or like eight years. I don't know. It just really depends. Um, but if like someone's into it, if you're

00:06:33.140 into it, then I think that's okay. Go for it. Yeah. Go for it. If it's not hurting anyone, then yeah.

00:06:37.940 Um, honestly for me, so I do have an opinion on it. I have like gone on dates with older

00:06:47.000 men. I did go on a date with a man who was 37 when I was 19, um, which was a large age

00:06:54.180 gap, but I actually really liked him. Um, but looking back on it now and like from his perspective,

00:07:00.220 that's a little weird, you know, it's like a little bit too much of an age gap. I think

00:07:05.140 appropriately, like my sister met her boyfriend when she was 21 and he was 27 and there was like

00:07:11.340 a six year age gap. So I think anywhere from like, like one to like 10 years max, if you're like 20

00:07:18.340 and above, I feel like it's okay. I feel like if you're 18 or freshly out of high school and say

00:07:23.660 you're dating like a 27 year old, I feel like that's grooming a little bit. I feel like you just

00:07:28.440 don't know anything. Yeah. You're too young. You're too innocent. You haven't been out in the real

00:07:32.520 world, you know? Wait, what was, what was the example of the age difference that you just

00:07:36.520 provided for my sister and her boyfriend? No, the one where you're like, that's a bit

00:07:40.500 Oh, like if you're like, say if he's like 27 and like dating an 18 year old girl, like fresh out of

00:07:48.160 high school, like, I think that's just like a little too much because you know, like they're 18,

00:07:52.680 they're freshly graduated. They haven't like, cause I feel like college for sure. Definitely ages you

00:07:57.100 a lot. It gives you a lot of maturity, kind of helps you figure out your life. When you're fresh

00:08:02.180 out of high school, you really don't know a lot, you know? Yeah. So that's kind of my viewpoint on

00:08:07.840 it. So would you object to that sort of relationship? Yeah. Like say if I saw like an 18 year old

00:08:15.500 freshly graduated high school and she's dating this 27 year old, I would say, no, like that's not okay.

00:08:21.420 Yeah. You know, like it should be illegal. No, not like that it should be illegal. Cause I mean like

00:08:27.240 everyone's different. Like say this, maybe like an 18 year old's been through a lot of life experience

00:08:31.940 and they have life experience and it all depends on like mentality and maturity. But from like the

00:08:38.200 guy's perspective and he's like 27 and like been an adult for like nine, 10 years already. And like

00:08:45.560 he sees this 18 year old girl and was like, yeah, I want her fresh out of like fresh, you know?

00:08:51.420 That's just my viewpoint. Yeah. Vina? I kind of agree. Like it's like circumstantial. Like

00:08:58.240 like if you're 18 and 27 in that example, like you're in college, like you're like barely

00:09:04.940 experiencing things. If you're 27, you're kind of like, you're probably working or like maybe doing

00:09:09.700 something and you're like at different stages in your life. So I feel like I would also like object

00:09:16.140 to that. And it like, it goes both ways, like men and women. Like if I was 27, I wouldn't want to date

00:09:22.620 an 18 year old. And so I would question why men would. Okay. I'll give my piece afterwards. I'll let

00:09:30.400 you guys all answer. Go ahead. Um, well, here's my thing. My mom, for example, met my dad. My dad was in his

00:09:39.380 late 20s somethings. My mom was like 16. She got to me when she was 17 and my dad was like still in

00:09:46.620 his late 20s. And so right now my mom's 36. My dad is 50. And so there's an age gap. There's an age

00:09:53.600 gap. And I feel like I personally don't see it different just because, um, I don't want to say

00:10:01.800 like in Mexican culture, but it's just normalized. It's totally okay for there to be an age gap just

00:10:09.020 because you see the stories of like people coming together to the, to the States and like, it's like

00:10:15.820 that. So I was just like seen in my, like growing up, I saw it as something normal. Like you, I also

00:10:22.540 dated some, well, not dated. We were like talking. Um, I did someone, he was 23. I was 18. It was,

00:10:29.560 we were just, it was a couple months. It was a lot of talk about like, Oh, are you ready

00:10:34.380 to move out of your parents' house? Like I can get you an apartment type thing. And it

00:10:39.660 was like too soon, too fast. Just like you said, like he was definitely like you're fresh

00:10:44.060 out of high school. Like I want to. So I, it was, it was not, it didn't work.

00:10:50.000 So I agree with like both Steph and Naomi, like, yeah, my mom, um, she was older than all her

00:11:00.940 boyfriends though, but she had my siblings like very young, like 16 and like, I don't know. But

00:11:08.580 then like also like Naomi, like why would a 27 year old even go for someone that's 18? You know,

00:11:15.380 like, I don't know. I feel like you just, it's just weird. Like go for someone like that's 25,

00:11:22.520 like your own age, someone who's experienced, but I can't really say anything because I dated

00:11:29.140 someone that was 19 when I was 15. So very illegal, very illegal. Like, oh man, you can say that to the

00:11:39.480 stream. All right. We're ending the show. The show is over. Um, wow. Uh, okay. So, um, let's not,

00:11:52.940 let's not talk. Yeah. We're not going to go into that. Um, she was joking guys. She was just joking

00:11:58.980 about that. Um, don't even know that Chris Hanson. If you're watching, uh, just she was joking. Okay.

00:12:04.700 Um, Gabby, why don't you go ahead? I also agree with what everyone has said. I feel like it really

00:12:10.300 does depend on like the age and how large the age gap is. I feel like it's more okay if like once

00:12:15.360 both partners are like after 30 years old, cause I feel like then they've had like enough

00:12:21.540 experiences and stuff and they're also very like mature and an adult. So I feel like after 30,

00:12:28.420 it's like more okay, but age gaps when you're below, it's a little questionable or very questionable.

00:12:33.980 I think, I think like at least over like, I don't know, maybe like 30, but once you reach like

00:12:39.360 twenties, like anywhere from like the age gap, like say someone's 20, anywhere from 20 to 30,

00:12:45.340 I think that's like the benchmark when you get that kind of like experience, you know,

00:12:50.500 like my sister was 21, her boyfriend was 27 and like, they've been together like six years,

00:12:54.920 you know, like she had a very mature, like, uh, mindset at 21. So I feel like my opinion is like

00:13:00.600 once you hit that like 20 year old benchmark or like just your twenties in general, that's when

00:13:06.020 everyone is kind of on the same wavelength. That makes sense. That makes sense. Wait, hold on. I

00:13:10.760 just have to go back to this. You were 19. No, he was 19. Oh, he was 19. Yeah. I was 15. We started

00:13:18.220 talking. I was a freshman. He was a senior. Jesus. Yeah. Yeah. That's, I mean, well, that's not the

00:13:26.520 kind of age gaps that we're going to be talking about, but, uh, yeah, we're talking just again,

00:13:33.640 to clarify adults, 18 and above could be a 25 and 35 year old, you know, just want to make that clear

00:13:42.880 adult relationships. This is a, so, okay. Um, interesting, very interesting. And so it sounded

00:13:51.440 like most of you said, one of the examples that you guys gave was, uh, like a 27 year old dating

00:13:58.220 an 18 year old. That is a bit, you look at that even though, you know, they're both legally adults.

00:14:04.640 You do look at that in a bit of a strange way. And is that only in the direction of a man dating a

00:14:10.840 woman? Or would you also similarly look a woman dating a man? Not so much you putting yourself in

00:14:17.400 that position of, I wouldn't want to date a guy who's younger just cause he's immature, but just

00:14:21.640 from you're looking at it from the outside and saying that's kind of, is it creepy for a 27 year

00:14:29.140 old woman to be dating an 18 year old? Yeah. Yeah. I think it's like both ways. It's not double

00:14:35.420 standard. I think if you're a woman and dating a younger guy, it's like the same as a guy dating a

00:14:41.640 younger girl. It's, it's both ways. Okay. So you guys have all heard the term cougar. Yeah. Yeah.

00:14:47.820 Right. So, so that the cougar scenario, no bueno. I feel like cougars are like mid thirties and above

00:14:55.540 though. Yeah. Like 35 plus into their forties. If you're 27 and dating someone that's 18,

00:15:02.240 like a teenager. Yeah. That's a child. It's still a child. Not a child. Let's not say a child,

00:15:09.180 not a child, but like technically he's legal or he or she is legal, but like not experienced life

00:15:15.340 yet. Yeah. Like right out of high school. Yeah. But I mean, I think we can all agree here in terms

00:15:20.320 of maturity, age doesn't always necessarily dictate maturity. Cause I'm sure you guys have met a lot

00:15:26.800 of guys, probably, you know, some girls too, that are your age or older and you're like, this

00:15:31.220 motherfuckers immature. So, so yeah. Um, why don't we, Eric, can we have you pull up a video? We're

00:15:39.700 going to react to a video. So you're going to just hit control tab. Okay. Um, before you play it,

00:15:47.680 Eric, this is a video. I don't know how many of you are familiar with Mr. Andrew Tate.

00:15:52.700 Yes. Oh, very controversial individual, very funny individual. Maybe you've seen him on Tik TOK.

00:15:59.640 Yeah. And he, uh, this is appearance. He did a couple months ago on your mom's house podcast.

00:16:08.760 Very funny podcast. This is one of his, I think one of his more interesting interviews he's done.

00:16:13.280 Eric, I think you're going to have to probably boost the audio on the keyboard, uh, boost it up to like 60,

00:16:19.000 I think. Hold on. Uh, let me just do a little, uh, soundboard test. Boost it up to 70 for us.

00:16:28.340 Sorry guys, we're doing the live. We're still figuring this out. Uh, 70. Okay. Go ahead and

00:16:33.560 play it. And we're just going to hear. Oh, actually before you play it in chat, if the audio on this is

00:16:38.940 messed up, uh, just let us know one in chat. If the audio is good, I guess, or bad. I just gave you,

00:16:46.880 I just gave you mixed instructions. One in chat. If the audio is good to in chat, if the audio is

00:16:52.920 bad, I think you just need to press the space bar to go ahead and play it. Eric. You know what's so

00:16:57.520 attractive about younger women? Cause we, a lot of these dudes talk about fertility and looks and

00:17:02.100 stuff. I don't actually think it's that. I think that in the modern world and the, in the days of

00:17:06.660 old, right, you'd meet a woman, you get married, you'd be together, whatever, whatever. In the modern

00:17:09.480 world, if I meet a girl who's 33 and single, I know the amount of dick that's been through her

00:17:13.860 before me. It's just simply unattractive. I don't care how nice you are, but you're 33 years old.

00:17:19.240 How many men have fun? If I get a 19 year old girl, I might be your second or third man, right?

00:17:22.880 I'm going to be dude number fucking 29 and all the trauma and heartbreak and bullshit they put

00:17:27.840 you through. You're going to try and bring to my door. Like, well, my last man cheat. I don't give a

00:17:32.020 fuck. Like, I don't care. Like, why is that my problem? So if you pick up older women, you have to

00:17:36.780 accept they've been on the carousel longer. They've had more fucking rides, more spins. I don't want that

00:17:42.380 shit. And when I see a beautiful young woman, I know that she has a very low body count. And that,

00:17:46.500 and also, no, no, but the truth is this. Women's mentality is absolutely connected to sex. If a

00:17:52.320 woman sleeps with a bunch of men, it's harder to penetrate her mind and make her fall in love with

00:17:56.320 you. It is unattractive too. And it's unattractive. It is. But if she's, if she's had 30 dudes inside

00:18:00.060 of her, is she really going to think, you know what, this guy's so, so, so special? Or is she going to

00:18:03.440 think, you know what, he talked to me real, let's go get a new guy. Whereas if a woman's only been with a few

00:18:06.440 guys, she's much more likely to fall in love with you, be a better partner. The likelihood of her falling

00:18:10.180 completely in love with you and staying loyal to you and, and really believing you're the only man

00:18:13.920 for her after being through so much trauma and so many men and sleep with so many dudes and having

00:18:18.240 her heart broken and having those memories of her ex and all that crap she's been through is far less

00:18:22.580 likely than meeting a nice, young, beautiful girl who hasn't been with many men. And she goes, you

00:18:25.660 know what, this is the guy I like him. Every woman who knows this and every man who watches this can be

00:18:29.600 honest. Women fall in love with the person they lose their virginity to or the second or third guy.

00:18:32.640 They really remember them. They really love them. Any woman who slept with 50 dudes, she doesn't even

00:18:35.780 remember who most of them are. She doesn't care. If a woman slept with a bunch of men before you,

00:18:38.720 she's less likely to stick it out through a difficult period in a relationship. She's more

00:18:41.400 likely to just say, you know what, new answers, new dig. That's a pretty good answer. And that's

00:18:44.460 the truth. Let me make something clear. If I meet a beautiful 30 year old woman, I'm not saying I

00:18:47.880 won't sleep with her. That's pretty fucking old. 30? I know. What are you, crazy? There's been times I was

00:18:53.900 drunk. Okay, that's it. You can bring it back, Eric. He's an idiot. Okay, so let's hear your guys' take on

00:19:02.700 that, Raffaella. Yeah, very controversial, I would say. I don't agree with what he's saying. I mean,

00:19:10.700 I need to think about this because, like, also he's obviously, like, over 30.

00:19:18.920 I believe Andrew Tate is 35. Yeah, he's probably stuck with a lot of people. And I don't know, like,

00:19:26.860 I need to think about this more. So it is, this actually touched on the conversation we had our

00:19:33.660 last show. So he kind of goes into body count too, a little bit there. We can maybe talk about

00:19:38.640 that later. But why don't you go ahead and give your take? So, I mean, so he's saying that, like,

00:19:44.480 the reason why he likes younger girls is because they're more likely to be loyal. They have less

00:19:49.080 trauma, less heartbreak. And they've hooked up. With less people. With less people. But you know

00:19:53.940 what? Like, if a girl has had one boyfriend that's, yeah, she, like, lost her virginity to and she was

00:19:58.560 in love with and he cheated on her and he broke her heart, she's going to have the same amount of

00:20:02.180 trauma as any other girl that's talked to a bunch of guys. So I don't think there's that much validity

00:20:07.300 to what he's saying. Yeah. It could be both, though. It could be both. She's had a long-term

00:20:12.780 relationship, got destroyed by her boyfriend, and then also just had a hundred partners.

00:20:20.480 Yeah. It could be, like, this one girl has, like, used to not committing to anyone. So maybe she has

00:20:24.700 commitment issues. But maybe this other girl who's been with one guy and been heartbroken also has

00:20:29.760 extreme trust issues because of that one guy. She's traumatized by that one guy versus one girl

00:20:35.200 is traumatized by many dudes. But it could be the same trauma and same trust issues, you know?

00:20:39.460 So I don't think, like, I don't think there's that much validity to what he's saying, you know?

00:20:46.340 That's my opinion.

00:20:47.160 Yeah, I feel like it's, like, a little bit hypocritical. Like, it's, like, if the girl's been doing

00:20:56.640 whatever and she's older and she's been hooking up with all these guys, whatever, and she has all

00:21:01.820 this trauma. But, like, the guy's older, he might have done the same thing. So you guys are at the

00:21:06.380 same level. So you guys should know what maybe both of you have, like, been through and understand

00:21:11.740 each other, maybe, to a level. I don't think that, like, your body count and stuff like that

00:21:18.580 goes into account of, like, trauma and everything else.

00:21:25.680 I think everyone has, like, experiences that lead them to the way they are. For example,

00:21:32.800 I broke up with my ex-boyfriend in high school. And I had what I call, like, a little hoe phase,

00:21:38.720 where I was just, like, you know, on apps and, like, trying to meet someone that's going to take

00:21:42.400 the edge or whatever. And it was, like, through that that I, like, gained my confidence because

00:21:48.080 I was able to, like, stand up for myself and really see what I want in a relationship, what

00:21:52.560 I don't want in a relationship. So, like, that's kind of my take on that. But I do get, like,

00:22:01.560 the validity thing is, like, it goes both ways, you know?

00:22:05.780 Yeah.

00:22:08.720 I have to think about this.

00:22:12.860 Gabby?

00:22:13.580 Just like what Veena said, it's very hypocritical because he's, what, 35?

00:22:17.380 Yeah.

00:22:17.620 And he's also had that, like, same experience or, like, has had a lot of experiences, maybe.

00:22:22.800 So, it is, like, very hypocritical. And also, like, if you meet someone and you, like, really

00:22:28.160 love them, you don't, like, you shouldn't take that into account for, you know?

00:22:33.040 It's, like, if someone has trauma, don't really, like, push them away for that. Like,

00:22:39.440 if you really love them, you would want to work through it with it with them. So.

00:22:43.060 But, I mean, I don't, it seems to me like what he's saying as far as the trauma goes is

00:22:46.460 he wouldn't even let it go anywhere if a girl's coming in and she's got, she's bringing a ton

00:22:52.900 of baggage from her past relationship. But, so, you, are you saying you would object to

00:22:58.600 that component of it?

00:23:00.860 Object to?

00:23:02.400 Well, he's basically saying, hey, well, one of the things he says is if a woman's bringing

00:23:09.760 past relationship baggage to his new relationship, that's an issue. But you're saying we should

00:23:18.400 be more understanding. Is that what you're saying? We should be more understanding and.

00:23:21.820 Yeah, like, if you really love her, you should be more understanding and.

00:23:24.800 But, I mean, you don't immediately love someone when you're, when you first meet them, for

00:23:28.260 example, right?

00:23:29.320 I guess that is true.

00:23:30.560 Like, if a guy came to you that you were, are you single currently?

00:23:33.340 Yes.

00:23:33.820 Okay, a guy, he was torn up about his last ex. You're gonna, you're gonna feel like you

00:23:40.200 might not want to take this guy seriously, right? Because, I mean, at least my, my take on

00:23:44.900 it is when you meet somebody new, I think both people should have worked through their

00:23:49.620 stuff. And then they can, because it's not good to go into a relationship with baggage.

00:23:58.980 If you're still dwelling on your ex, I don't think that you should be trying to meet new

00:24:03.060 people.

00:24:04.120 Yeah.

00:24:04.680 I mean, don't a lot of people, though, try to get over relationships by meeting somebody

00:24:09.120 new.

00:24:09.740 I do not agree with that.

00:24:11.140 I'm not saying they should, but a lot of people do.

00:24:13.200 But yeah, but like, then that's just hurting someone else. Like, if you're trying to get

00:24:17.460 over someone and get under someone, like, that's just hurting the other person. Like,

00:24:22.320 you're creating more chain of events that are, like, bad.

00:24:26.320 But I feel like you also have to think about it. Like, we're thinking about it as a female

00:24:30.260 perspective. Like, yeah, of course we don't want to get hurt. Of course we don't want

00:24:33.820 someone. But like, at the same time, they do the same thing to us and we allow it. Like,

00:24:39.760 and we don't know that that's happening sometimes.

00:24:42.120 Who's they?

00:24:43.100 Men.

00:24:43.640 Men.

00:24:44.560 Men.

00:24:45.040 Correct it.

00:24:45.880 Boys.

00:24:46.560 Boys.

00:24:47.220 They're not men.

00:24:48.440 Little bitch boys.

00:24:49.440 Yeah.

00:24:49.880 So it's, I don't know. That was, I don't know. So they had an input. It's like, I feel

00:24:56.420 like we think a lot about, like, us. Like, of course we don't want to be that person on

00:25:01.540 the receiving end. We're like a, you know, we're getting, like a guy's getting over their

00:25:05.980 ex-girlfriend with us or whatever, but they do it to us.

00:25:09.760 Yeah. Okay. Let me put it this way. Like each, okay. So both parties going into relationships

00:25:15.280 should not, should be fully healed, you know, from their past, you know, they might still

00:25:21.700 have a little bit of trust issues, but that's something, if it gets serious that you guys

00:25:25.140 work through together. Um, but I also don't think like body count, how many people you've

00:25:29.920 been with has no account into that. It should not matter. It should not matter. Like, um,

00:25:35.140 body count shouldn't matter. No. As long as you are healthy, loyal and respectful and

00:25:42.880 clean. Yeah. I asked you to add, like it should not matter at all. Like, does everyone agree?

00:25:49.440 Yeah. Body count should not be a consideration when choosing a partner. No. If you're going

00:25:56.300 into a mature relationship. I think I agree with you. I mean, the past is, yeah. So the

00:26:02.420 past is the past. Is that what you're about to say? Yeah, pretty much. Would you date a

00:26:05.700 guy who previously slept with prostitutes? If he's clean, he has to be clean. Okay. The past

00:26:13.720 is the past. It depends. Like, okay. Multiple, a dozen prostitutes. It just, it'd be questionable

00:26:21.020 because I would wonder why he would feel the need to pay to have sex. Like why. See, that's

00:26:26.640 different. He couldn't, like, did he feel that he couldn't find that without having to pay

00:26:31.080 for it? Well, it is harder for men to get sex than it is for women. Yes, it is. Does

00:26:37.480 anyone disagree with that one? No, that's true. This is like the second conversation I've had

00:26:40.940 about this. This, like, topic. My boyfriend and I have gone, gone through this topic so

00:26:46.040 much. Yeah? Yes. And I've gotten so mad at him. So you, you, what's his take? What's

00:26:53.040 your boyfriend's take? So he thinks that, like, okay, you know the, like, lock and key

00:26:56.980 saying, like, there's one certain key to unlock the. Here, you want me to, I'll deliver

00:27:01.960 it. I'm gonna deliver it. So a, uh, a lock that opens too many keys is a shitty lock, but

00:27:10.280 a key that opens many locks is a master key. Yeah. So. So that's what he says. Yes. I

00:27:18.740 didn't say that. Your boyfriend. I was just quoting your boyfriend. And so, but you disagree

00:27:25.000 with that. I mean, if they can run through girls, why can't, like, girls have fun as

00:27:31.080 well? I'm, like, mind you, I have a body count of two. So I'm just sticking up for the

00:27:35.340 people that, like, live their life, you know? If you are clean, you are healthy, you're

00:27:39.820 respectful and loyal, it doesn't matter what you do in your past. As long as you

00:27:44.960 get into a relationship, you are loyal to that man and that man only. Yeah. Well, there,

00:27:50.300 so there are two different things there. So you were saying how, initially we were talking

00:27:57.740 about who's, has an easier time getting laid. No. Right? Yeah. And then what, what was the

00:28:04.920 other piece? And then, like, the body count of, like. And then the body count thing. Okay.

00:28:09.280 So he did say that, like, women do get a lot of more attention than guys. And you disagree

00:28:14.440 with that? I mean, he said that, like, if a woman on average of, like, I don't know, ranking

00:28:20.960 of a six and then a man of a six as well, DM 50 people, majority of the guys would respond

00:28:28.900 to the girl and then the girls would not kind of respond to the guy. And you said it's like

00:28:33.320 a six. Yeah. You know, like an average good looking male or female, just DMing 50 people.

00:28:40.140 He said that the girls would get more responses. That guy, he can be left on red. He's not even

00:28:46.380 getting a high back. Ain't nobody talking. Who here has, like, gotten a DM from a guy

00:28:52.600 that you don't, like, you don't know, but he's sliding into your DMs? Like, okay, like

00:28:57.380 saying, like, want to fuck? Or just being like, hey, beautiful, hi. Like, or just like. All

00:29:03.500 the time. All the time. All the time. Why don't we just go around the table? Like, just

00:29:08.320 estimate, like, how many, how many guys who you don't know, or maybe you, maybe acquaintances

00:29:14.540 or maybe have a class, have DM'd you? And it was clear it was kind of a romantic interest

00:29:20.480 sort of thing. Over a hundred, just over a hundred. In general? Like, ever? All time.

00:29:27.980 Oh, God. We lost track. All time. That's a hard number. I know. The unknown, like, yeah.

00:29:35.380 The hidden requests. Yeah. Hundreds, like, of all time ever. Like, you know, there's probably

00:29:41.820 definitely, like, hundreds. But it's just bots, though. You know, some of them are bots.

00:29:46.240 Yeah. It's all on social media, too, for the majority of it. Yeah. Yeah. Why don't we just

00:29:49.360 go around the table real quickly? Just, like, if it's over a hundred, just say if it's over

00:29:52.800 a hundred. Gabby? I would say over a hundred. Probably over a hundred. Over a hundred?

00:29:57.140 Likewise. Over a hundred. Anyone over, should we bump it to a thousand?

00:30:00.720 I don't want to go that far. Let's just say over a hundred. Over a hundred? Over a hundred.

00:30:04.920 Over a hundred. Over a hundred? Okay. So, unless, I would say, unless you're, like, really

00:30:11.220 good-looking guy using your rating scale, let's say a nine out of ten, ain't no girls

00:30:18.480 DMing guys. I'm just, okay, let me flip it. How many guys have you DMed that, like, you're

00:30:30.000 sliding into their DMs? Let's start here. And do they have a blue check?

00:30:34.920 Yes. I think it was only one that I DMed. Timothee Chalamet? No. Admit it. He told

00:30:43.780 me. No, it was actually Pierce Brosnan's son, and he responded. And this is when I was,

00:30:50.780 like, 17. But, yeah, I sent in his DMs on Instagram. And how old was he? He was also

00:30:57.320 17. Oh, okay. Yeah. All right. Yeah. Okay. Saved. Wait, so, he responded. Mm-hmm. And

00:31:03.200 that was the, that was the sole one guy that you DMed? I'm pretty sure that was the only

00:31:06.100 time I DMed a guy. 100% success rate. Okay. Go ahead. Okay. I'm actually a fan of sliding

00:31:12.440 into guys DMs. Like, I'm pretty confident. And, like, I don't care about shooting my shot

00:31:18.180 because, I'm not going to lie, most of the time it's successful. I definitely have slid

00:31:23.060 in some TikTokers DM. This one, he was, uh, he's got, like, 10K. He, like, he's followed

00:31:28.700 by, like, Vinny Hacker and stuff. He actually responded and, like, started sliding up on

00:31:32.500 my stuff. Um, definitely a few athletes. Wait. Sliding up into your, are you, oh, you're

00:31:39.220 talking about Instagram still? Yeah, yeah. Okay. Got it. Got it. Got it. Yeah. So, like,

00:31:43.020 I slid into his DMs and he actually responded. I didn't think he was going to respond. Um,

00:31:47.560 and then he, you slid into his, then it was. Immutual. Yeah. He was, he would, like, respond

00:31:53.120 and now he, like, still slides into mine once in a while. Have you guys met up? No, we

00:31:57.280 haven't. What do you? He lives in Oregon. So, like, he was in LA. He was in LA, like,

00:32:03.160 over the summer. Um, but I was still in school. So, like, I was just too busy. But, um, he

00:32:09.040 wanted to, like, meet up and, like, everything. Um, and I've also, like, slid into a few

00:32:14.340 athletes DMs before. Any responses?

00:32:18.020 Um, yeah. A few responses. Athletes? Yeah. Blue checks? I do know, uh, a blue check.

00:32:25.580 Uh, but I know him. You don't have to name him. Just. It's not from, I know him personally.

00:32:29.720 We, like, are from the same hometown. Um, so I've known him for, like, four years and

00:32:33.660 I knew him before he was a pro athlete. Basketball player? Uh, football. Football.

00:32:37.760 Okay. Yeah. Okay. And so, but it sounds like you've messaged, initiated a few DMs on

00:32:44.220 Instagram. Yes, I have. And you've gotten some responses. Have you ever been

00:32:47.400 left on red? I have. Okay. But it sounds like, what, 50% success rate? No, more like

00:32:52.800 70% success rate. Okay. Go ahead. Go ahead. Um, I mean, I've slid into, like, a handful

00:33:00.100 of guys DMs. Okay. I feel like my success rate is probably, like, 90%. Yeah. Here, just

00:33:06.120 move this a little closer. They, like, I feel like most of the time they respond. Even if

00:33:13.120 they're, like, gonna cut off the conversation or something later, they'll still respond.

00:33:16.940 So, just curious. So, you DM a guy. What do you say? That could be interesting to have

00:33:22.340 everyone go around the table. It's usually, like, a story slide up or something. I don't

00:33:27.360 know if I've ever just, like, gone and been, like, hey, hi.

00:33:30.560 Okay. So, you're not even saying, typing words. No, it's not, like, me initiating it. It's,

00:33:38.560 like, just an emoji reaction. No, I'll type words, but it's still, like, a swipe up from

00:33:43.760 a story. It's never, like, I go on their page, click message, and, like, DM them. And

00:33:48.900 then the guy responds. Yeah. He'll pick up the burden from there. Yeah. Okay. Okay. And

00:33:53.920 then from there, like, what are you hoping together? Are you trying to date this guy? You

00:33:57.880 want to hook up? Like, what are you angling for? I don't think there's, like, that much

00:34:01.800 intention behind it. I think it's just, like, I think you're cool. I'm gonna see what's going

00:34:07.240 on here, and that's it. Okay. Whatever it goes. Whatever. Okay. And what about, just you two

00:34:12.640 really quick again. So, when you did message guys, what did you say? Just hi? So, I have,

00:34:18.840 like, slid up on stories and stuff, but that one guy I gave an example of, I was, like,

00:34:24.400 I was, like, oh, hey, King. I think you're cute. Like, here's my number. Like.

00:34:27.560 You called him King? Yeah. Okay. All right. Rafa? I don't really remember what I said.

00:34:33.980 It was probably so cringy. I was 17 at the time, so I think I said something, like, I

00:34:38.480 don't know, along the lines, like, hey, cutie, you're cute. Something like that. Yeah.

00:34:43.120 Okay. And that was the Pierce Brosnan son? Yes. Yeah. I think we just doxed him, but okay.

00:34:50.360 I know. Maybe you shouldn't have said that, because people can probably find him. Wow. And

00:34:55.520 Pierce Brosnan. 007. Okay. Yeah. Let's go on this side. So, the question is, have you ever slid into a

00:35:04.300 guy's DM? And if so, what did you say? Well, the DM I sent is why I'm in a relationship.

00:35:12.040 Oh. So, well, it was more of, like, I wanted him to come on my podcast, and so I had never met him.

00:35:20.120 And he was into fitness, and I wanted some more, like, fitness enthusiasts, and so I DM'd

00:35:25.160 him, and he came on, and we met, and they went from there. Yeah, but it wasn't anything

00:35:31.100 like, hey, sexy. It was like, hey, how are you? Like, we had already been, like, mutually

00:35:36.740 sending each other messages, so it was it. But yeah. That's cute. Yeah. The only DMs that I

00:35:42.840 ever sent were, like, on TikTok, and then I would, like, go onto their Instagram and be, like, hey,

00:35:49.760 like, you're cute. You should message me. Or, like, hey, like, just, like, something stupid. But

00:35:55.480 I'm in a relationship, and the only DM I DM is my boyfriend. So, wait, how, you, you're in your

00:36:01.860 boyfriend. You had DM'd him? No. Or you met in person? Yeah, I met him in person. We went to the

00:36:08.580 same school. Got it. Gabby? I'm gonna be honest. I don't think I really have, like, slid into

00:36:14.560 somebody's DMs like that. So, yeah. I don't know. I'm just scared. You're scared? Yeah. Why? Of

00:36:22.720 rejection? I don't know. Just, I'm, I don't know. I just don't really do it. I let people DM me or

00:36:29.600 come to me. I was like, there's enough in the DMs. So, it's cool. You probably have a large, you probably

00:36:34.060 have a large enough pool to kind of select from the guys that are coming to you, right?

00:36:39.560 I guess. Be it in person, because I don't know if you go to parties or, you know, whatever.

00:36:44.560 Or just, who's here, who here is on a dating app currently? Anybody? Nobody? No. Nope.

00:36:54.840 Nobody's on a dating app. Nope. No. Stop the cap. Somebody's on a dating app. Hey, no shame.

00:37:03.140 I mean, I still have, like, my old dating apps, but, like, I haven't, like, deleted them.

00:37:07.520 Farmers, farmers only? Oh, my God. Christian Mingle? Just, like, Tinder and, like, Hinge.

00:37:13.800 Christian Mingle? That's a good one, right? Yeah. My accounts are, like, active, but the app is,

00:37:21.200 like, gone. Got it. Okay. But you've been on dating apps at some point. Yes. Oh, yeah.

00:37:28.580 For sure. Okay. Got it. Yeah. Yeah. How did, we, we've kind of meandered slightly. So, we were

00:37:34.940 talking a bit about the ease in which with both genders can get laid. I think that's kind of where

00:37:43.000 we initiated, well, what we've just established, exhibit A, in saying that it's generally, I would

00:37:52.060 say it's a bit easier for y'all. Yes. So, but you, you disagree. No, I mean, I agreed with him on that

00:38:00.980 part. Oh, you agreed, but it sounded like you disagreed. Oh, but you, you were upset about by

00:38:05.000 the, maybe the double, you were upset maybe by the double standard. Yeah. Like, if guys can hoe out,

00:38:11.300 why can't girls? Right. As long as you're literally clean. I, that's the whole point. Like,

00:38:17.060 just live your life. If you, you have a past, okay, cool. But now you're getting into this

00:38:23.500 relationship and you're going to stay loyal. You're healthy. What's the problem? Yeah.

00:38:31.940 I agree. It's all about the current situation. Yeah. Why are you dwelling on the past? And I,

00:38:37.080 I forgot if I went around on this. So everyone here thinks body count doesn't matter. Yeah.

00:38:42.960 Okay. I disagree. I disagree. I think it does matter. This is kind of what we talked about,

00:38:49.460 um, on our last show. So, uh, I mean, okay. Tell me your viewpoint and examples of like me and my

00:38:56.860 boyfriend now. So let me think here. Um, so the first one is kind of obvious, but it always seems to

00:39:08.020 be avoided in this discussion is STDs. If someone's more promiscuous, they have a higher likelihood of

00:39:15.440 having an STD. Now it's certainly the case that someone could have had sex one time, the very

00:39:20.380 first time they have sex, they lose their virginity, they get herpes. It's certainly, I suppose it's

00:39:26.040 possible. I think it's unlikely, but if you've had more partners, the fact of the matter is you,

00:39:33.940 there's a higher risk of you having an STD. If I sleep with a hundred women, I'm probably more

00:39:40.180 likely to get an STD than if I sleep with one, um, and vice versa, of course. Uh, so there,

00:39:46.560 there is a STD risk there and there's incurable, there's curable ones and incurable ones. Uh,

00:39:52.700 I, it's honestly just simply unattractive. And the thing is, is I think men and women are different.

00:39:59.260 I think men and women seek out different things from the opposite sex, or I guess, well, let's,

00:40:08.620 let's just speak about, uh, heterosexual relationships, but in, in the same way that,

00:40:14.560 let me ask, well, let me go ask the table. So who here would prefer dating a guy that's taller than you?

00:40:23.740 Show of hands. Doesn't matter. So you date a guy who's shorter than you?

00:40:29.260 I mean, my boyfriend's five, nine and I'm five, four and like, and he, I think that's a five inch

00:40:35.000 different. It's not like, but it's okay. Fine. Well, I mean, even, even, even though your current

00:40:42.780 boyfriend is five, nine, that doesn't necessarily preclude that you would date a guy who's shorter

00:40:46.540 than you. Yeah. But that's what I'm asking. If you would date a guy who's shorter than you,

00:40:50.260 would you date a guy? Who's how tall are you? I mean, I'm five, two, so I mean, five, one,

00:40:56.120 five, one, five, one, five, one, but like, no, my boyfriend's also, he's five, seven, I think.

00:41:04.560 And it's like a five inch difference. Also I've dated, I've actually dated someone a little bit

00:41:09.800 shorter than me and I didn't like it. So I guess he could have put me in that category, but now I

00:41:16.880 just wouldn't care really. Gabby six, four and above. Yeah. Um, no, but would you prefer to date

00:41:28.740 a guy who's taller than you? Yeah. So this is a, this is a difference between men and women. Most

00:41:33.520 men don't really care about the girl's height. They do care about other physical traits, but

00:41:41.400 generally speaking, most guys don't care about the girl's height, whether taller or shorter than them.

00:41:45.640 I think some guys have, most guys don't really care. Most guys don't care about height. So in that

00:41:51.180 same way, uh, the, the things that women find attractive in men, men may not necessarily find

00:41:58.460 attractive in women and vice versa. And in that same way, there's some, there's some things that

00:42:04.040 men might care, not all men, but men might care about in a partner that women don't care about.

00:42:10.120 And one of those things is, uh, promiscuity and sexual purity, so to speak. Do you want

00:42:18.820 to know more reasons why you wanted to come in? So let me let you come in and then I can

00:42:23.140 finish my piece. Okay. Okay. So I understand wanting to know like a person's like history,

00:42:29.360 I guess, in my opinion, like it doesn't matter. So like say two people meet, you don't know.

00:42:34.200 They're like, you know, like I don't care about like knowing my boyfriend's body count, but like

00:42:39.260 what I would care about knowing is if like, if he has hooked up with someone that I know,

00:42:44.480 or like if there's someone in the room or someone in a situation that like, you know, like if like,

00:42:49.740 say we're like at a party and he's hooked up with this girl, I'd want to know that. And like,

00:42:53.720 and I'm sure he'd want to know the same thing. Like, you know, like if there's this person around

00:42:57.380 that's like present, like that I understand wanting to know, have you hooked up with this

00:43:01.720 person or not? You know, but I honestly, like me and my boyfriend, we don't talk about body count.

00:43:08.060 Like I haven't told him mine. He has told me his, but like, I don't tell him mine and I don't care

00:43:14.580 to, I don't think it matters. Like I wouldn't have cared to known his. And like, that's just something

00:43:19.660 that he just, he just offered it up. Yeah. Or did you ask him? No, I like, I didn't ask him.

00:43:25.560 We were just like having conversations and like, he was like, oh, like, yeah, this is mine. I was

00:43:31.320 like, okay, cool. Like, I don't, I don't really care to know. Okay. Just interesting, interesting

00:43:37.180 point. Interesting point. Just a show of hands. Um, who here thinks body count doesn't matter?

00:43:42.900 Shouldn't matter. That was a hesitant, hesitant. So let me ask you guys a follow-up question. So body

00:43:53.460 count doesn't matter. Um, what's your body count? I'm glass. Oh my gosh. Into the microphone, please.

00:44:03.000 Five. That's the, that's a real number. Yes. Okay. Be honest. Be honest with you. Go ahead. Two. Two.

00:44:11.000 Yeah. You told us before, right? Five. Five. I'm not going to comment. You're not going to tell it,

00:44:17.300 but I thought you, hold on. You just said it doesn't matter. Well, yeah. So why, why not? I

00:44:22.600 don't think that like a person should be judged on how many people they've been with or that it

00:44:27.060 should hold any weight in your current relationships and how two people feel about each other, you

00:44:32.220 know? Like, but why not say it then? If it doesn't matter, be the change you want to see in the world.

00:44:37.260 I don't know if my family is watching this or not. Okay. Mom and dad turn, turn off the stream.

00:44:43.220 My parents think I'm a virgin. Mom and dad, her, her chastity is intact. She's just, she's just,

00:44:53.680 just held hands. That's it. Um, okay. I think they turned it off. Uh, what do you want to just

00:45:00.940 say the number now? They're not watching. Okay. That's fine. Go ahead. Raphael. Oh my gosh.

00:45:04.660 You're filming on the spot. Um, five, you know what? There were too many fives. Um, I got, hold on.

00:45:18.720 I got a little sound for us. Multiply it by three and that's the real number. No. So 15, 15, 15, 15,

00:45:27.540 right? Five, five, five. Okay. So, um, yeah, I, there's a, there's another reason why I think

00:45:34.780 guys care more about, uh, body count and, and it's actually an evolutionary biological thing. So,

00:45:43.860 and it, it comes down to paternity. So can you guarantee that the child is yours? Now,

00:45:52.540 every single woman, if you have a kid, you know, that's your kid, but that's not the case

00:45:59.180 for men. And so now in the past 40 years, you know, they've figured out DNA, we can do paternity

00:46:07.840 tests and we can determine who's the father. But I mean, one, it's not paternity tests are not

00:46:13.380 automatic. Um, and secondly, even, even though with modern science, we've worked it out, you know,

00:46:19.940 there's been hundreds of thousands of years of evolution and we, men still have that innate

00:46:29.080 biological hardwiring where we do, we do feel repulsed, revulsed by, uh, by female promiscuity

00:46:41.420 because someone who is promiscuous, they, there's a risk of the child not being yours.

00:46:50.560 Potentially. But at the same time, you disagree. Go ahead. Say your piece.

00:46:54.360 Me? Oh, wait, whoever. Go ahead. You go ahead. You go ahead. You start first.

00:46:57.920 Well, that's okay. So if a woman is in a relationship with a man and they're together

00:47:01.940 and he, like, if they're in a relationship, that's just saying that he's, or she's cheating

00:47:08.020 on him if he's unsure if that's his child. So I repeat that? Yeah. So, okay. So if a woman

00:47:13.940 is in a relationship with a man and they have a child together, assuming that's his child,

00:47:19.320 um, and he's thinks that potentially that child is not his, then that's just assuming

00:47:24.680 that she's cheating on him. So it's like in that sense, like if she's loyal, then why would

00:47:32.920 that be like a question? Yeah. Wait. So you say, you know, like, obviously it's a biological thing

00:47:40.640 that like men are repulsed by women because it's biological, right? Men are not repulsed

00:47:45.920 by women. Men are repulsed by promiscuity. Promiscuity. Why can't women be repulsed by the

00:47:52.180 same thing? I'm not saying women can't. I think it's stronger. I do think it is stronger

00:47:58.160 in men because, and it's because of the paternity thing. So, and again, men and women do want

00:48:06.780 different things, but I mean, I'm not saying that women would not take issue. And there

00:48:12.440 certainly are women who are like, you know what? I just wouldn't want to date a guy that

00:48:15.180 was a player and fucked a hundred chicks. In fact, we can go around the table. Like, would

00:48:19.580 you, would you date a guy that you knew slept with a hundred guys before? Let's start with

00:48:24.140 Gabby. Would I date a guy? Would you date a guy who has slept with a hundred women before

00:48:29.540 you? You're number 101. You're very special. 101 Dalmatians. Oh man. I would have to think

00:48:40.600 about this. What if it was an NBA player? No, I'm kidding. I feel like if we like talk about

00:48:49.460 it and kind of work through it, then it wouldn't really matter as long as he's clean. Um, then yeah,

00:48:57.240 maybe. So you, it wouldn't, but it wouldn't raise an eyebrow at all? It would raise an eyebrow. So

00:49:02.740 we'd have to like have a conversation about it or something. Okay. Yeah. But yeah. I mean,

00:49:08.040 my boyfriend does have, not a hundred, but he does have like a pretty high up their body count. And

00:49:15.060 I mean, I'm with him. So your boyfriend's a legend is what you're saying. Yeah. Okay.

00:49:21.840 He dropped his crown. He dropped his crown. He's with you. You're the, uh, you made him change his

00:49:28.440 ways. Yeah, I did. Um, I mean, I, what I date someone is, uh, I feel like my boyfriend is like a

00:49:41.120 hoe on the low. Well, it was a hoe on the low and like, doesn't want to tell me, but I don't

00:49:46.620 really care. I feel like I know who I am. I'm, I'm no, I'm loyal. If they're secure in their

00:49:52.920 loyalty, I don't think that it should be something that defines like my entire relationship.

00:50:00.140 So your boyfriend's a hoe is what you're saying?

00:50:03.340 I feel like I don't care whatever he did. Like before we said we were exclusive, but like

00:50:16.520 after that, that's what matters. I agree on that. You know, it's like, um, like if we're

00:50:23.840 like talking and like, then we decide we're dating, we're exclusive. I don't, and he's loyal

00:50:28.800 to me and we decide that we feel the same way about each other and we're focused on each

00:50:32.800 other. I don't think it matters what happened before.

00:50:36.460 Yeah. Like I say body count doesn't matter. And like, I do believe that I know I'm like

00:50:41.040 on the fence with it. Cause I do believe like what's in the past in the past. And if you're

00:50:44.780 dating someone and that's, you know, their focus is you. But if a guy did sleep with a hundred

00:50:50.860 people, I think I would be like that I was interested in. I don't know. I would, I think

00:50:56.020 I'd feel weird about it. But then again, like I, that wouldn't be like a factor for me to

00:51:00.820 not date him. I guess I should have framed the question differently. It's not like you

00:51:05.460 are, you're in a relationship with a guy and you're three months in and you're all of a

00:51:10.340 sudden discovering that he previously slept with a hundred people. It's your first meeting

00:51:14.720 him. And you know, this guy's a player, you know, he's run through a hundred girls. So

00:51:19.640 I mean, if you're to me, even if I was a girl, I'd be thinking, okay, I'm interested

00:51:24.960 in a longterm relationship. I don't want, I mean, you can do whatever you want. Right.

00:51:28.620 But if, if as a girl, you're like, Hey, I want a longterm relationship. This guy's

00:51:33.300 slept with a hundred women before. Yeah. You're gonna, you're gonna think like, yeah,

00:51:40.040 this guy's a player. Like you're going to have it feel a certain type of way. Yeah. I mean,

00:51:43.980 I can't say like my, my boyfriend's hot as fuck. When I first met him, I was like, Oh,

00:51:49.860 he's probably fucked this entire city or something. And like, no, obviously it wasn't like that,

00:51:55.440 but it did cross my mind. I was like, I wonder who, like, who is I'm going to tell this and

00:52:01.660 like, Oh, I know who that is. You know? Like, and it's just like, it is something that did

00:52:07.440 cross my mind, honestly. But as I like continued, you know, getting to know him, it's like his

00:52:14.480 character, what defines it? Not that number that I heard or whatever, you know?

00:52:19.980 So there might be some stigma around it. I think maybe on both sides, like when you first meet

00:52:24.740 someone, you know, like if a girl's approaching a situation, like, Oh, he's a player. Like,

00:52:29.560 I don't know about this. Or like if a guy comes in and he's like, Oh, she's kind of a hoe. Like,

00:52:33.680 I don't know who she's been with, but you know, it's like getting past that stigma and like getting

00:52:38.380 to look outside of that and like see who the person is and how they, how you guys like treat

00:52:42.880 each other. And it's about, it's all about the personality and the character, especially for

00:52:45.800 the women. I mean, I know it's different for men, but like, it's how you guys connect and you know,

00:52:50.300 that's worth like pursuing it further, you know? So you might be willing to look past that and pursue

00:52:56.500 it further if you guys connect well, you know? But of course there's going to be that thought

00:53:01.520 at the first hand, I think on both sides. Right. And like, I'm not saying that you can't,

00:53:08.760 like as a woman, you can't, if you want to sleep with a bunch of guys, go ahead, do it. That's your

00:53:12.340 life. Live your life, do what you want. But, and I'd also just add both men and women, you know,

00:53:20.140 you have the right to reject pretty much anyone for any reason. If the guy, you know, it could be

00:53:24.340 their sexual past. It could be, you know, they're not, you don't like their personality. They're,

00:53:29.900 you don't like their physical appearance. You don't like some personality trait. You don't like

00:53:33.420 that they previously ran around in a penis costume. I don't know, whatever it is talking

00:53:39.520 about me right there. My past probably of some of my videos I did probably disqualifies me.

00:53:45.840 Like, this guy does all these weird pranks and stuff. Okay. So, um, so let me, let me ask this

00:53:57.120 question since, you know, history doesn't matter. Past doesn't matter. Um, would you guys date a guy

00:54:05.740 who had previously committed multiple felonies and did like, I don't know, three years, did like

00:54:16.780 three years in prison? It's his past, right? No, not a problem. Um, we're talking about romantic

00:54:24.620 relationships. Like what type of felonies? Let's just say he, he, uh, armed robbery. How about that?

00:54:32.180 Um, will my life be in danger? Like, I don't know. I'm not sure. I like hot and spicy, but

00:54:42.240 not that hot and spicy. Did he do it for the thrill or like to survive or like? Did someone

00:54:47.240 make him? He really, he really, he really wanted the, uh, he was at a convenience store. He was

00:54:54.380 hungry. There was a bag of Doritos. And then somehow he ended up in prison for three years

00:55:04.180 for stealing a bag of Doritos. I don't know. He had, he had a banana in his pocket. It looked

00:55:08.980 like a gun. Next thing you know, boom, boom, boom. Armed robbery with a weapon. Three years

00:55:13.820 in prison. I mean, I would talk to him and be like, were you in a hard time? Like you couldn't

00:55:19.040 afford a bag of Doritos? Like, was it a ripe banana? Was it worth it? Let me ask a different

00:55:26.500 question. Yeah. Um, why don't we just go around the table? Would you date a guy with

00:55:32.360 a criminal history? Um, same as my answer before. I think it just really depends on what

00:55:36.740 it is. Okay. You have to be more specific. I'm going to just ask a different question

00:55:42.820 then. Wait, I have an experience for that one. Yeah. Yeah. Sure. Go ahead. So I actually

00:55:46.220 dated someone in jail and I, did you have a conjugal visit? I was dumb enough to set

00:55:53.560 up like a GoFundMe and get him out of jail because I thought he was like, he loved me

00:56:00.780 and like, it was just whatever. And I mean, yeah, I wouldn't, I wouldn't do it. It was

00:56:06.380 like, it was like trying to catch up with his freedom instead of trying to catch up into

00:56:11.500 a relationship. So it was like, I just felt like I was playing the pick me up girl.

00:56:16.200 And it was just not. Were you writing letters? Yeah. Were you a pen pal? I was, well, mine

00:56:22.840 was phone calls. It was like, I had the county jail already logged into my phone. Every time

00:56:28.360 I saw a phone, like county jail call me. SB County Jail. Yep. I was like, Oh, that's

00:56:33.020 him. You're like, hello. What do you need? Um, turns out he was dating someone the entire

00:56:38.700 time. Like I didn't even know. And now the girl wants to fight me every time she sees me.

00:56:42.480 So, but did you know him on the outside before or you got connected when he was already in

00:56:49.120 prison? No, I knew him on the outside, like already knew him in the biblical sense or I

00:56:56.160 knew like your friends, your friends. And then like, I was like hanging out with him. Obviously

00:57:01.200 he was in the wrong crowd. So we were doing mischievous stuff together and that's how our

00:57:05.200 little relationship collided. So you guys met in prison. We met doing dumb stuff together.

00:57:10.180 Yeah. Like you guys were crossing each other in the hallways. You were, you were in the

00:57:13.440 women's side. Okay. Got it. So like you guys were robbing liquor stores for Doritos.

00:57:19.840 Okay. Got it. Got it. Okay. Uh, did, Oh no. So, okay. The next question is, um, so would

00:57:27.380 you date a guy who was bisexual? So he's previously slept with other men and he was a bottom.

00:57:35.560 And he was a bottom. I like how you. Rafaela. Um, yeah, I would date a guy. No problem.

00:57:41.240 Not an issue. Okay. Sure. Yeah. Naomi. I think he would, but not if he was a bottom. No,

00:57:47.820 I'm kidding. So if he was a top. Okay. Got it. Okay. I don't know. It's just, I don't know.

00:57:59.920 It's just weird. Extra. You got extra competition too. Not only you. You got to worry about

00:58:06.400 I have to worry. Like people will be sliding in my own museums and I'll be like, Oh fuck.

00:58:13.040 Like I was worried about the girls. I have to be worried about the dudes are coming in. There was

00:58:19.140 this time, this was when my boyfriend and I were just starting to like date and he would get this

00:58:24.340 like Snapchat from this like guy in the army who was gay. And he would be like, send me photos.

00:58:29.560 Like your girlfriend doesn't mind. And I was like, um, excuse me. And like, he would send photos of

00:58:35.520 me and he would be like, yeah, like three way. And I'm like, Oh my gosh. Uh, no. So

00:58:42.640 what the fuck? Yeah. So, I mean, I wouldn't mind. It just got to stay aware of both sides.

00:58:51.700 Okay. It definitely raises complications. Yeah, for sure. Gabby. Exactly what she said. I don't

00:58:56.420 know. I don't really know. Cause I feel like it would raise some complications. Yeah. Yeah.

00:59:00.080 Okay. Got it. Yeah. What if he asked you as a female, like, Hey, can you stick it in my

00:59:05.580 butt? And you're like, Oh no. Yeah. If he wants to get pegged. Yeah. Then that's it.

00:59:10.520 Nay or nay? Nay. I don't think definitely. I mean, I joke about like putting on a little

00:59:15.960 strap. You joke? Joke. But I would never like. Is the boyfriend in the chat? Can you let

00:59:20.440 us know? What's his name? Tristan. Tristan. Are you in the chat? Do you think he's watching?

00:59:25.680 I don't know. I think he's still at work. Tristan, tell us the truth. She pressured you.

00:59:30.380 She pressured you into it. Okay. Um, so Veena thoughts. You want to, it sounded like you

00:59:38.200 kind of wanted to peg the guy. No, I don't think I would. Oh, okay. I got it wrong. Not

00:59:43.940 my preference. Not your preference. Okay. So you don't want to just dominate a dude. I mean,

00:59:49.600 you could still dominate, but it doesn't have to be pegging. Okay. So maybe there's some other

00:59:54.960 thing. Okay. Got it. Okay. Uh, I'll know where I was going with that, but I have a question

01:00:03.200 for you, Naomi. Yeah. I should have asked this during the intros. How frequently do people

01:00:10.100 say Naomi? Oh, like I moan backwards. Do you get that a lot? I haven't heard that in years.

01:00:18.520 I actually, yeah, I don't get that a lot. I first heard it in like, um, I think like middle

01:00:24.360 school and a couple of times in high school. Um, I haven't heard it since then now though.

01:00:29.600 Oh, okay. Cause I feel like people allow that can get annoying if you have like a certain

01:00:34.220 name or people who are really tall. Oh, you play basketball. It's like, okay, you get it

01:00:38.260 so much. It's annoying. So I was wondering with your name, if it's also like, everyone's

01:00:42.940 like, Oh, like I moan. No, usually I bring it up. Like I'm like, Oh yeah. Like that's my

01:00:47.440 name backwards. Ha ha. But like, it's not, I feel like sometimes people are intimidated by

01:00:51.600 me. So like, I don't think they'd like bring it up. Sure. Uh, we're going to read a couple

01:00:56.340 super chats here. Let me just pull these up. Nemo or sorry. Nameless loser with the $5 super

01:01:04.840 chat. Hey, thank you, man. Appreciate it. Thank you for the support. I'm 23 and have interest

01:01:08.840 in a 63 year old. Uh, the thought that he would most likely die much sooner than me is too

01:01:15.340 big of a concern of mine to commit. I'm 10, I'm 23. Are you a man or a woman? Uh, well,

01:01:24.000 I, the only, I think he's joking. I don't know if this person's joking. I don't know. 23 and

01:01:29.380 have interest. I don't think a lot of people, it's probably a woman asking that question

01:01:34.260 because he's going to croak soon and she's going to get no, it's a woman because he said

01:01:39.180 the thought that he would, well, maybe it's a day. I'm 23 and have interest in a 63 year

01:01:45.800 old. Okay. Well, uh, yeah, I mean, that's certainly a consideration with age gap situations

01:01:50.500 because if they're geriatric, maybe they don't have a long time to live. And then, then you

01:01:59.300 start to have to have to think about what is the other, the young person's motivations

01:02:02.840 in getting into a relationship with someone that old, which is probably money. It's gotta

01:02:08.320 be money, right? I mean, maybe there's some scenarios where it's love, but I mean, come

01:02:16.660 on, come on. Uh, next super chat. Oh wait. Sorry. Can you pull that back up again? Not

01:02:23.740 joking. I'm a man and another man. Nameless loser. Is it love or is it, is he sugaring you?

01:02:32.900 Age is nothing but a number. Word. All right. Next super chat. Solo TV 84. Thank you for the

01:02:42.460 $5 super chat, man. Appreciate it. A key that opens many locks is a master key. Yet a lock

01:02:46.740 that is opened by many keys is a crappy lock to miss blonde. Oh, okay. Okay. Yeah. So that's,

01:02:54.340 uh, I, I think I kind of, I think I went over that, but, uh, uh, uh, thanks. Word. Uh, let

01:03:02.480 me get, let me get you here. Solo TV 84. Word. Um, okay. Steven Krug. Hey man, we missed

01:03:10.400 you last stream. Where were you dude? Uh, good to see you again though. Uh, thank you for

01:03:13.800 the $10 super chat. Much appreciated. Thank you for the support. Women are incentivized for

01:03:19.020 a high body count for a high body count because it could be perceived. She's ultra desirable.

01:03:24.280 Men are incentivized by low body count, ultra desirable women. At some point, Steven Krug,

01:03:31.000 have you been, have you been hitting the whiskey, the wax pen whiskey a little bit by the way,

01:03:36.940 Steven, are you from Santa Barbara? Because you mentioned something about UCSB the previous

01:03:40.540 stream, but, uh, at some point too many partners is negative. Um, women are incentivized. Can anyone

01:03:47.360 parse what this means? Sorry. Sorry. I love you, Steven, but I'm just trying to parse what

01:03:51.340 you mean here. Women are incentivized. Okay. Women are incentivized for a high body count

01:03:56.800 in a man. That's what he's saying. Be, be, be, wait, no, but he's saying be perceived. She's

01:04:03.780 ultra desirable. Men are incentivized by low body count, ultra desirable women. I think he

01:04:09.720 meant to say he's ultra desirable. So women don't necessarily take issue with a guy.

01:04:17.780 Who is promiscuous or has had a lot of sexual partners. Cause that means that a bunch of other

01:04:22.420 women have picked him. He's probably more sec. Well, not necessarily, but he could be better

01:04:27.100 in bed. He's more sexually experienced. And I think that could be an interesting question.

01:04:32.340 Let's open that up to the panel. So I think most men wouldn't have a huge issue dating a woman who is

01:04:40.940 sexually experienced. In other words, she might not be really know as well as what she's doing in bed.

01:04:45.560 Whereas I think it's a much bigger deal for women. If the guy doesn't know what he's doing in bed,

01:04:49.880 it's a bit more of a deal breaker. While we open it up to the panel, let's start with Gabby.

01:04:55.180 So are you asking if it's a deal breaker, if they're not experienced?

01:04:58.000 So I'm asking like, yeah, is, would it be an issue for you if the guy was inexperienced in bed?

01:05:07.820 Let's say we could also just frame this as, would you want to sleep, hook up with, or date a virgin?

01:05:14.540 I wouldn't mind if you're a virgin now.

01:05:17.440 You wouldn't mind dating a virgin?

01:05:18.900 Okay.

01:05:20.120 Same.

01:05:23.660 I've had someone ask me if I could take their virginity.

01:05:26.540 And I had to decline simply because I didn't want to be that person. I don't know, you know,

01:05:35.380 they fall in love with you, regardless of whether they're like, I don't know, I'll block out my

01:05:39.220 emotions. You'll fall in love. Like it's your first time having sex. Like you're going to fall

01:05:44.160 in love or not fall in love, but you know, have some sort of like strings attached.

01:05:48.540 Yeah, exactly. So I, if it's not a relationship that I see, I'm going to, you know, be long-term

01:05:57.100 with.

01:05:58.640 Yeah. Wait, can you like specify, like, is it just like a hookup, like take someone virginity

01:06:03.640 or like, I'm a date this man?

01:06:08.060 Both.

01:06:08.920 Okay.

01:06:10.280 If it's just a hookup, no. But if I'm going to date him, then I can be like, okay, well,

01:06:15.260 this is what I like. So, you know, kind of learn.

01:06:20.360 So if it's just a hookup, you want it to be good. But if it's, you see something being

01:06:24.300 long-term, then you'd be willing, then you would be willing to like show him.

01:06:29.840 Yeah.

01:06:30.360 That wouldn't be a turnoff for you to like have to show a guy how to fuck you?

01:06:34.180 No.

01:06:34.680 Really?

01:06:35.060 No, because then you can tell him what you want. And like, if like you're looking for

01:06:39.060 a long-term relationship, he'll learn what he wants. I guess you don't want to actually

01:06:43.820 like teach someone how to do it. But if it's an, it's, if it's a long-term relationship

01:06:49.140 and you see an outcome out of it, like why not teach him what you like?

01:06:53.300 Yeah.

01:06:53.680 Gabby, can we have you move the microphone a bit this way? To your left, move it, scoot

01:07:00.980 it to your left a bit more, a bit more. Perfect. Okay. Uh, Vina.

01:07:05.040 Um, I agree. I don't think I would hook up with someone that hasn't had any experience,

01:07:12.320 but I would date someone that doesn't have any experience. Okay. I wouldn't do either.

01:07:19.940 Why? Well, for me, I think like, um, well, I have my own like sexual preferences and like,

01:07:27.360 just for me, that wouldn't be like ideal. And like, I also like, I would prefer the guy

01:07:33.520 to have, um, at least a little bit of experience. Like, doesn't mean he has to have been with

01:07:38.500 a lot of people or like someone who's like just experienced about, like say he's been

01:07:42.540 with one person, but he was in a relationship. Like I'd want him to like, to be able to

01:07:46.660 take the lead. You know, that's just my preference. I don't think I would.

01:07:49.800 When you say preferences, are you talking like BDSM, 50 shades of gray?

01:07:54.740 No, no. Just like, cause definitely a virgin ain't pulling that out of the hat.

01:07:59.040 No, no, no. Let me just fucking tie you up in all this shit.

01:08:02.920 No, like nothing crazy, but like, uh, you'd want a guy who's leads, who's dominant.

01:08:08.540 Yeah. Like in both aspects, like personality or not personality, but like, just like,

01:08:15.240 like the romance section in general, you know, like I want a guy to take,

01:08:19.800 you know? Sure. So I don't think, and that's my preference in relationships. So I don't think

01:08:24.420 a virgin would be able to fulfill that for me. Okay. I think I would, uh, both hook up and date

01:08:31.140 someone that's a virgin. I mean, I don't really hook up with guys anymore. So I like, don't really

01:08:36.640 know if I, into the microphone. What's that? Oh, just into the microphone. Yeah. Um, yeah. But I don't

01:08:44.520 think being inexperienced means you wouldn't necessarily like know how to have sex because I

01:08:49.720 think you just learn in the moment, you know? Yeah. I think it definitely does help, but

01:08:54.880 I don't know. Also like you're like, you say like you would like teach like a virgin, like

01:09:01.140 how to do whatever, like your preferences and stuff. But even when you're like dating someone

01:09:05.920 new, even if they have experience, they don't know what you like still. So you still have

01:09:09.920 to teach them. Yeah. Yeah. That's a fair point. That is a fair point. Um, certainly I think

01:09:15.220 there is a period of both people are learning what the other person likes and what they don't

01:09:21.620 like. So I actually, I think that's a very good point. I agree with that. Um, but overall,

01:09:28.140 overall, uh, this is an interesting panel, um, with your, yeah, I almost feel like you guys

01:09:36.000 are just intentionally, I could be wrong, intentionally changing up your answers just, just a bit, right?

01:09:42.060 What? No. You know, just, just to almost like, you're almost playing devil's advocate against

01:09:49.160 the questions I'm asking just to kind of like a little bit, a little bit, a little bit, a

01:09:53.300 little bit. Everybody. No, I'm being honest. They're just my opinions. Okay. Fair enough. Fair

01:09:58.320 enough. Okay. So let's tie this back to, we've kind of meandered quite a bit. So, so, and

01:10:08.460 that sort of stemmed from our discussion on, uh, promiscuity, body count doesn't matter.

01:10:17.500 One of the things that generally I think guys, yes, I think if you ask most guys, they'd probably

01:10:23.140 prefer a girl who has a lower body count versus a higher body count. And, but kind of one of the

01:10:28.940 things we got into was, well, what about sexual experience and how does that play into it?

01:10:32.400 Um, I think for a lot of guys, if she's, if the girl is inexperienced, we don't, I, that's

01:10:44.420 like a bingo for them, I feel like guys like that. I mean, I prefer like if girls are less

01:10:50.220 experienced, is that like, like a turn on for them or like, I think so. And it's just a turn

01:10:55.740 on that if a girl has been with less men too, but I mean, from the, just the experience

01:11:00.200 place. Um, I mean, if as a guy it, I guess it would depend if, if you're maybe inexperienced

01:11:08.180 yourself as a guy and maybe you're more submissive and you actually prefer the girl to kind of

01:11:15.600 be more dominant in the bedroom, then you'd probably be a bit more okay with it. But I think

01:11:19.960 a lot of guys, I think a lot of guys do prefer to be a bit more like leading dominant. And

01:11:26.600 so in that case, if you, if you know how to navigate and lead, then if she's inexperienced,

01:11:33.720 then she can just defer to your leadership and she'll kind of go along with the flow.

01:11:38.160 So yeah. Word.

01:11:40.960 I can see that. I can see how that's true.

01:11:43.960 Yeah. Uh, so where I'm trying to remember where we were. Oh, we got one, one more super

01:11:48.960 chat. Let me just bang it out while I have it here. Uh, solo TV 84 with a $2 super chat. Miss

01:11:54.760 blonde is an undercover freak. I mean, I asked her about the 50 shades of gray thing. Do you want

01:12:01.480 to, do you want to just go into it? Because solo TV 84 here is very curious. $2 curious.

01:12:08.300 Yeah. $2 curious. I can talk about that on camera. Maybe what about broadly speaking? Can

01:12:14.780 you talk about your preferences, broadly speaking? She has a boyfriend, don't you? Yeah, I do. Oh,

01:12:20.580 you got a boyfriend. Okay. Yeah. But, um, I'll say my boyfriend definitely like fits my like

01:12:27.320 sexual preferences. I don't know. I don't know. Like what's your question? Do you mean just like

01:12:35.140 when you say sexual preferences, do you mean just the type of partner you have? Or do you mean when

01:12:40.500 you're actually getting frisky? There's certain activities. I like a man who's like dominant

01:12:46.300 enough that I can fit like, like grow more into my feminine energy. Okay. You know, like

01:12:53.180 I like a man to take the lead, you know? Um, and that way I can, cause you know, I'm a hyper,

01:12:58.940 I, there's psychology behind this. I'm a hyper independent woman. So I'm in control all the

01:13:02.760 time. I always have to be. So when it comes to my relationships, I like it when he takes the

01:13:08.400 lead and I can step back from the driver's seat. So that's a way that I can put it.

01:13:12.600 And you, so you said in real life, you're like very go getter. Yeah. Boss bitch type

01:13:18.480 of thing. Yeah. Uh, and so are you in school right now or are you working? Yeah, I both.

01:13:23.660 And what, so remind me, what's your major? I'm a global studies major. And what do you

01:13:28.160 do for, don't tell us where you work, but just tell us what you do for work. I'm a waitress.

01:13:32.120 You're a waitress. Yeah. And when you're waiting, that's when you're in your, uh, just

01:13:38.300 very, I'm very assertive, very on top of my, yeah, I'm very on top of my shit. I know

01:13:45.900 what I do. I know what I do. Well, I, um, I like work 24 seven. I did school Monday through

01:13:52.580 Fridays, did work Friday through Sundays. Like I'm always on my shit. Boss bitch. Yeah. Always

01:13:58.620 on your shit. Okay. Cause I've, I've heard that when it comes to like service jobs or when

01:14:04.280 you're being a waiter, um, there, there is a component of, you are sort of switching

01:14:11.160 personalities. You're, you're kind of being like, I don't know what the right word is.

01:14:17.000 Supplicating a little bit to the people at the table. Like, Oh, hi, how are you? Like,

01:14:21.320 so it is kind of that. So, but I, so I'm just trying to kind of wrap my head around a bit

01:14:26.620 more what you mean in terms of your work in every job. Yeah. So it's like, it's just like the,

01:14:32.680 yeah, serving definitely is very, like people are very cutthroat and you kind of have to be

01:14:36.920 able to just take it. Like I have really tough skin. People will say like, you can ask Raph too.

01:14:42.920 People will say the craziest stuff and you just put your head down and like, okay, I'm so sorry

01:14:46.520 about that. Let me see what I can do for you. Turn your head around. You're like, oh my God,

01:14:51.160 this table. Yeah. Do you two work together? Yeah, we do. Okay. My boyfriend works with us as well.

01:14:57.720 Oh, okay. Wow. It's like a sitcom there. Dude, the service industry is a reality TV show.

01:15:04.760 I'm telling you. They need a camera in the kitchen because it goes down.

01:15:08.920 Yeah. What are you guys doing back in the kitchen? Oh my God. The cooks are insane.

01:15:13.560 Well, that's what I've heard. Yeah. Like all the cooks are Hispanic and like,

01:15:17.800 I understand Spanish and they say some crazy stuff. Do you speak Spanish?

01:15:21.640 I do speak Spanish. Let's, can you just give a few examples of what they say? Um,

01:15:26.840 Oh, for, for our Spanish viewers. Um, well like every day I walk in the kitchen,

01:15:32.040 they're like, hola mi amor. And then one time this one cook, he was like, he's like,

01:15:36.440 he's like, tienes hambre? Quieres carne? Like you want me? You want my meat? And I was like,

01:15:41.800 I'm like, do you want sausage? Yeah. Like just stuff like that. Or like, yeah, just that type of

01:15:49.560 thing. Very like crazy. Inappropriate. Sounds like sexual harassment. No, it is. It low key is.

01:15:58.760 But you give, you just give them a pass. Cause you're like, whatever. No,

01:16:02.200 some people don't get offended by that sort of stuff. Sometimes I'll just be like,

01:16:05.080 I mean, it's like hard. Give and take maybe, you know, you kind of give back a little bit.

01:16:09.080 You're like, yeah, no, I'll literally talk to him. I'm like, the event, like,

01:16:12.520 don't tell me anything. Like, you know, like leave me be. Yeah. It's so inappropriate what

01:16:17.960 they say sometimes. Yeah. Stopped. Like some of them just like stop talking. Yeah. I was just like,

01:16:22.840 that's just not okay. I was like, you need to relax. Yeah. There's definitely some

01:16:27.400 shit that goes down in the kitchen though. Yeah. It's gets out of line sometimes. Yeah.

01:16:33.640 Rock and roll. Uh, we got one more super chat here from Mr. Steven Krug.

01:16:38.760 Thank you again for the $10 super chat. Steven really appreciate it. Men want women with a

01:16:44.360 lower body count. I think he's maybe rephrasing his previous super chat. Men want women with lower

01:16:49.320 body count because it's more likely the woman is reliable for chat, for childcare. Evolutionarily

01:16:55.560 speaking with contraception, the balance has changed. May, may cause population decline. Thank you for the

01:17:02.600 super chat. Steven, do you guys want to comment on that at all? Um, it is true that there is a

01:17:08.440 population decline because there are more contraceptives and more people are wanting

01:17:13.480 to have kids less and less. Um, but with contraception, I think like, I think people's

01:17:20.680 mindsets have changed around having kids. And so, but I also don't think that relates to how

01:17:26.200 good a mother someone would be as well. Yeah. I don't think that relates to childcare,

01:17:30.600 like being reliable for childcare. If you have a lower body count. Yeah. Like how does that

01:17:37.000 he's trying to take, not even in the scene. I think he might be, I'm not sure if he's talking

01:17:41.560 about paternity. Yeah. I was going to say maybe in the essence of like wondering if that's my

01:17:48.120 kid type of thing, but other than that, I don't think like being a good mother. I don't think

01:17:53.800 it relates at all to your body. Yeah. Gabby, I know you're burning to answer this one. I don't

01:18:01.480 really understand what he's trying to say. I don't know. Yeah. So I think basically, um,

01:18:11.480 I think essentially what he's saying is that maybe men would view women with a lower body count. They

01:18:16.840 might just be better mothers maybe because it's more likely the woman is reliable for childcare.

01:18:24.440 But that has no correlation. I'm not really. Yeah. Evolution with contraception,

01:18:28.600 the balance has changed. But like, what's a low body count to certain people? Well,

01:18:33.560 I guess it depends on your age, right? Yeah. I mean, I guess. Yeah.

01:18:38.680 So in your opinion, I'm curious. Yeah. So like if a 22 year old you were talking to,

01:18:44.200 like, what is a certain body count that you're just like, Oh, okay. Like give us more than a

01:18:51.320 certain number. So it obviously depends on age, right? So I think you'd certainly someone who's

01:18:58.680 been sexually active for 10 or 20 years, you'd give them a bit more leeway. Whereas if someone's

01:19:05.640 only been sexually active for three weeks and they already have 10 bodies, you're gonna be like,

01:19:11.320 like, okay, that's, you went on a tear there. Uh, so it, it kind of depends. Uh,

01:19:19.720 honestly, the, I think the lower, the better, but I, again, we've lived in 2022. So it's just kind of

01:19:25.560 like promiscuity is on the rise dating apps. That shit is easier than ever for women.

01:19:32.520 Mm hmm. Well, for it's opened the door a bit for men, but I think like, so they've actually done

01:19:39.160 studies on this on the dating apps. And so basically what you have happening on dating apps,

01:19:44.920 um, and this was happening to a bit, to a lesser degree in the real world, but on dating apps,

01:19:51.480 basically 80% of the women are after 20% of the men on dating apps. And what you also have is women

01:19:57.880 rate and there was a study that, okay, Cupid did, which is like a dinosaur dating app. Um,

01:20:03.720 it's like a dating site at one point. Um, 80%, I think I'm trying to remember the exact wording,

01:20:11.160 but most women on okay, Cupid rated 80% of the men as unattractive, unattractive. And we can actually

01:20:20.680 open this up to the panel. Like of the, maybe we can, I'm not sure exactly how I want to frame this.

01:20:26.200 Let's say of the guys that you see on a day-to-day basis, what percentage of them would you say that

01:20:32.360 you find attractive Gabby guys on a day-to-day basis? Yeah. Or even on dating apps, like what

01:20:39.640 percentage of the guys that you see on dating apps would you say you find attractive or in real life

01:20:45.400 percentage? I'd say like 60, 70%? 70% are attractive. You hear that gentlemen? Her DMs are open. Okay.

01:20:55.720 Um, go ahead. In dating apps or, cause I'm, I don't have any dating apps. I've never had. Oh,

01:21:01.160 you've never had. Okay. Um, wow. Okay. I feel like that's, uh, I've actually never had Tinder,

01:21:07.960 Bumble, Christian mingle. Farmers only? Farmers only never had that. Yeah. It'd actually be very

01:21:14.360 interesting to see like, what is the percentage of people who've, who've had a dating app versus

01:21:19.960 who haven't. I think it's probably the majority of people at, you know, let's say of dating age.

01:21:25.960 So let's say 18, 19 have had a dating app. And when I say majority, I mean over 50%. Um,

01:21:32.280 but okay. What about you? I don't know. I'm a personality gal. So I was like, I, if I'm on,

01:21:39.880 or when I was on Tinder, I know 99.9% of the guys on there only want to fuck. Like you could be as

01:21:45.640 handsome as you are, but I know you probably only want to fuck. Like if obviously it's like the way

01:21:50.680 you approach me, the way you send me a message is also like a key, but I just feel like I don't

01:22:00.360 think you're attractive until you show me your personality. And that's just how I've been and how I

01:22:06.360 have. Yeah. Vina? I'm going to say like 50. I feel like just like physically 50,

01:22:13.880 because there's all the other things that could like bring it up.

01:22:18.520 For me, like I used to have a very specific type and like, I've mostly only been on Tinder,

01:22:24.360 like in Santa Barbara, like there's not a lot of my type here. So I would say like,

01:22:29.720 only like 20% was attractive to me. Like I'm usually swiping left most of the time. And then

01:22:36.360 once in a while I'll see one that's like, okay, yeah, he's attractive. Yeah. Yeah. Same thing for

01:22:42.360 me. I feel like in Santa Barbara, I don't really see guys that I'm attracted to. Like it's actually very

01:22:47.240 rare. I think that like I see someone on the street and I think that he's cute. I would say like 2%.

01:22:52.760 Like it's very rare that I see someone on the street. 2%. I mean, but no, I mean, that's,

01:22:57.800 that's totally fair. Yeah. Um, you, you mentioned that you had a very specific type. What do you

01:23:01.960 mean by that? Um, so like, I mean, like, um, like she was saying, I also am like a huge personality

01:23:09.080 person. Like my boyfriend is like the exception, like he's not more normal type, but like I, so I'm

01:23:14.920 all about personality, but if we're just going off of looks, I do tend to like go toward a specific

01:23:21.240 like type, you know? So what is that? What is that type? So my type are like, my type like

01:23:28.520 historically has always been like Latino men, like I like brown curly hair, like someone that's at

01:23:33.320 least taller than me. Um, but I love if they speak Spanish. Wait, how tall are you? I'm like 5'7".

01:23:39.320 5'7". Okay. Yeah. So if they're like six foot or above and they have like brown curly hair and

01:23:43.880 they're like Latino, I'm like, I'm like the complete opposite in types. I know it's so funny. Um, so like that

01:23:50.120 has typically been like, if I see a guy like that, I'm like, wow, you're hot as fuck. Like, you know,

01:23:54.840 but like if his personality is shit, I'm like, okay, nevermind. Yeah. Is Bruno Mars Latino? No.

01:24:00.920 Or is he, is he black? I think he is. I don't know if he is. I'm trying, I'm trying to think of like a

01:24:07.400 a famous actor that would be your, is there like a... Definitely not Bruno Mars.

01:24:10.920 That's the first thing that came up. I thought he was, he's not, he's black?

01:24:16.040 I don't know. I thought he was nice. I don't know. Actually, he might be like,

01:24:20.680 I don't know. But so like, is there, is there like a famous person that you can think of that

01:24:24.680 falls into that archetype? Archetype? I don't know. Who's that, who's that guy that saved,

01:24:33.560 saved by the bell? Mario? Oh, Mario. I mean like that you're more, Mario Lopez.

01:24:39.160 Mario Lopez, yeah. Mario Lopez? You're more on dimples?

01:24:41.800 Track, yeah, but like. He's handsome. Yeah, he's a good looking guy. Successful.

01:24:46.440 Like, that's more on track, but like, I don't know. Okay. I'm trying to think.

01:24:53.000 So I have a huge thing for athletes. And what's your type, Miss 2%? My type, okay. I love,

01:24:58.360 I mean again, also same thing, like personality. Like I wouldn't, like I would date someone that's

01:25:02.920 not my type in that sense. Like I, like I am first attracted to

01:25:07.400 someone who, typically blonde, blue eyes, tall, like very Swedish, Scandinavian-esque.

01:25:16.680 So, so you hang out by the, the language school.

01:25:19.160 That's for sure.

01:25:20.040 No, she literally knew that.

01:25:23.080 Well, there's actually a lot of, there's a lot of Swedish people that come to Santa Barbara City College.

01:25:28.120 Yeah, there is a lot. So you just, you just troll around SBCC looking for the tall Scandinavian guys. Okay.

01:25:35.880 But that doesn't mean I'm attracted to every tall, blue-eyed, blonde-eyed person, but that's just typically like what I've seen.

01:25:41.480 That, that is your type. Yeah. What if they have dark hair?

01:25:44.360 Yeah, that's fine too. I mean, I'm not attracted, like, it's not like I'm only attracted to those type of guys, but if you have brunette hair,

01:25:53.560 it potentially could be attracted to you. Yeah. Like, it doesn't mean that they're like, you're not gonna like consider it because they're outside of your type.

01:25:59.480 Yeah. Like, my boyfriend's completely outside of my type and like. Sure.

01:26:02.440 Oh, your boyfriend isn't a tall, curly-haired Latino man. No, he's not. Oh, okay.

01:26:06.440 He's like six foot. He's white. He's half Irish. Okay.

01:26:10.360 And he's actually like my first relationship. So like, he was like the exception for me. Sure. Yeah.

01:26:15.640 Okay. Yeah. Someone in the chat is saying, let's see, uh, Bruno Mars is half, someone said he was half, uh, Hawaiian.

01:26:23.480 But now he's saying, you gotta pick one. He's either, he's Hawaiian, Usagi Akimbo, Bruno Mars is Hawaiian.

01:26:29.880 But then later you say, oh, half Filipino. So maybe half Filipino, Hawaiian. Okay.

01:26:34.280 I think, I knew it was something else. Yeah. I didn't think he was black. I mean, I don't know.

01:26:37.880 Um, anyways, uh, we got another super chat in, right? Let's see here. Uh, Abo, does anybody, can anyone help me?

01:26:47.000 Abo, Salaman. Abo, Salaman. Salaman. Salaman. Is that South African? Anyone in the chat? What is

01:26:56.840 this currency? But hey, thank you for the SAR 20. Much appreciated. Where's my love, Sabrina Kate?

01:27:04.040 You mean the girl from last show? Um, she is not, she had a party to go to. Um, she,

01:27:13.720 I think she's going to come back on the show like next week or something. Um, but hey, thank you,

01:27:17.720 man, for the support. Um, her, I think she's single. So, and I think she likes, uh, are you

01:27:24.760 Arabic by chance? She likes Arabic men. So slide in her DMS. Um, let's see. Next super chat. Again,

01:27:31.800 Steven Krug with the, uh, third, I believe that's your third $10 super chat. Thank you, Steven. Much

01:27:37.640 appreciated. By the way, again, I think, uh, I asked, do you, are you from Santa Barbara? Just

01:27:42.840 curious. Um, women with body count eight plus, for example, that has kids with partner nine

01:27:49.640 is less likely to be attached to the new mate, less likely to care well for child because they're

01:27:55.640 desensitized to a sex connection. What? I don't, but what is, I'm sorry, that's complete

01:28:01.960 bullshit. If you're having children with someone, you're going to have to be a hundred percent

01:28:07.560 sure that you love him or at least that you guys can create a child together. And even then,

01:28:14.440 that doesn't mean if you're not fully attracted or attached to that like person, um, that doesn't

01:28:20.680 mean that you're less likely to take care for the child. Yeah. That's like connection. You gave

01:28:27.320 birth to that child. You're gonna have some sort of like, like you were saying that paternal

01:28:33.000 instinct, that biology for men is super strong. That maternal instinct for women is extremely

01:28:37.640 strong in that sense. Where are you getting these facts from Steven? Yeah. Check your sources. Yeah.

01:28:44.200 Uh, read a textbook. So the part where he says is less likely to be attached to the new mate. That is

01:28:53.800 true. That is true. You're so if you've had more partners, it's harder for you to pair bond

01:29:04.840 with that person. They've done studies on it. They've, they've done studies. I mean, if you've had,

01:29:10.840 if you've had, for example, 40 partners, uh, I mean, that's, that's what most people don't have.

01:29:18.520 Like most people haven't had 40 boyfriends or 40 girlfriends, but the more partners you have

01:29:25.320 typically like an Andrew Tate actually said this in the first one, like really your first,

01:29:30.680 second or third relationship, that's like long-term relationship. That's probably going to be the

01:29:35.000 person that you're, you really like had the strongest thing for you. You're really in love

01:29:40.360 with them. You get your heart broken. You get, you start getting jaded, jaded, jaded,

01:29:44.680 breakup, breakup, breakup, cheating, cheating, cheating. And then you start getting a bit more

01:29:48.920 guarded. And so I do think those first few love relationships are probably going to be the ones

01:29:55.240 where you have the strongest bond with that person. I could be wrong. No, I actually think that's

01:30:01.320 true. Actually, I can agree on that. They always say your first love is the hardest or something

01:30:05.880 like that. Yeah. So I think maybe that's a little bit like, yeah, that's a little bit what they're

01:30:11.880 getting to, but they have done studies. I think the CDC did a study where they, they, you know,

01:30:16.760 they looked at, uh, married couples and the amongst, amongst, uh, couples that were more promiscuous

01:30:29.640 or one of the partners were more promiscuous or even just on the individual level, they,

01:30:35.000 they pulled both men and women. Uh, if the person was more promiscuous and had more premarital partners,

01:30:42.600 they're more likely to report, uh, marriage dissatisfaction, more likely to report,

01:30:48.360 more likely to be divorced or sorry, more likely to get divorced. So

01:30:53.240 word, I think that's where Steven is going with that. Okay. I mean, I could definitely,

01:31:01.400 I mean, I definitely agree on the point where like the first couple of people that you're first with,

01:31:05.720 you definitely have like an unexplainable stronger connection to. I think there definitely is truth

01:31:11.080 to that. Yeah. You know, it's like your first, very first experiences. It's experiencing it for the

01:31:16.040 first time. So it's probably most likely going to be the most memorable and like feeling that feeling

01:31:21.240 for the first time. Sure. And you're typically a lot younger too, because it is one of your first

01:31:25.480 experiences. Yeah. So I mean that plays a factor in it too. Yeah. I feel like I also find myself like

01:31:31.320 comparing myself, how I was, um, mentally like in previous relationships and like what I'm mentally

01:31:39.000 capable of now in relationships. So I feel like that's like really true. Yeah. You're like capable of

01:31:45.560 less mentally. Yeah. And just to add to, I think Steven Krug's point, uh, another thing. So you have,

01:31:53.640 you have, uh, relationship satisfaction, relationship stability, uh, chance. So if you're not married,

01:32:00.440 let's just say your chance of breakup, but if you are married, there's a higher chance of divorce. If

01:32:06.520 one or both partners had a promiscuous pass. Um, and then it also increases the likelihood of

01:32:13.480 cheating and infidelity. If someone has a promiscuous past, they're more likely to cheat.

01:32:20.200 I think maybe it has to do with the fact that that person has like more options and people that they

01:32:24.520 can go back to. So I think that there might be correlation with that. There is a saying that goes

01:32:30.600 like men are only as faithful as their options. Yeah. That is a saying. So if a guy's got a bunch of

01:32:38.200 options, he might, he's going to exercise them, you know? Exactly. Like, and I think that's true.

01:32:42.760 It's like, if a person has more options or more, more likely to cheeks, they have more opportunities

01:32:47.320 coming at them. Word. So I want to go back. Actually, hold on. We got a super chat coming in.

01:32:57.880 Oh, is this a super chat? Oh, this might've just been an accidental, uh,

01:33:01.720 uh, posting on that make, uh, well, Guillermo, we're going to give it to you. Guillermo Fonseca

01:33:09.960 with a $0 super chat. Is your boyfriend posting you on their Instagram, a make it or break it?

01:33:15.720 My fiance dipped out on me cause I wouldn't post her enough. Uh, is it hurting him to like post her?

01:33:24.440 Like, yeah. Like why not? Why? Like, what do you get out of like, just like not posting her? Like

01:33:31.560 it doesn't hurt. Yeah. And if she asks, like, why do you care that much not to post? Yeah. If

01:33:36.920 you're in a relationship with your girl and like you want to show her off to everyone.

01:33:44.600 Maybe, maybe he's a bit more discreet. I don't know. There's definitely girls.

01:33:49.080 I definitely girls on the Instagram. Like you gotta be pretty serious with the guy. If you're

01:33:55.640 going to post, post a guy on your Instagram and it's kind of clear that, you know, so I can see

01:34:03.240 the hesitation, uh, I guess from both sides. But if he's like constantly like on his Instagram and

01:34:10.040 everything and he's just going about life, like just throwing your, your fiance, I guess.

01:34:15.400 Yeah. I feel like if he doesn't post anything, then maybe it's okay. But like, if he's like

01:34:19.400 posting all the time or like pretty normally and like doesn't post you or like post things

01:34:26.760 that you do, but not with you, it's kind of weird. I would think like there's something

01:34:30.200 wrong with me and be like, why are you like hiding me? If it depends. Yeah. If he's posting

01:34:35.080 stories and all this stuff on Instagram all the time, then I get hurt. But if he doesn't do it,

01:34:39.560 then I'm like, oh, it's fine. Yeah. If he's like not active, like a ghost on social media,

01:34:43.720 I'd be like, okay, I get it. All right. Yeah. Sure. Yeah. So to bring it back to body count,

01:34:52.120 which initially came, we were talking about age gap, but, um, I think point blank, broadly speaking,

01:34:59.640 men don't want to date women with a promiscuous past. Um, and he, like, he might hook up with you,

01:35:06.520 but most men are probably, if he knows that you've been the town bicycle,

01:35:11.320 he's not going to take you seriously.

01:35:15.400 And it's, I already talked about one of the reasons there's a biological evolutionary thing.

01:35:20.360 Like, so that's a factor. Paternity fraud, paternity fraud is pretty much the biggest L

01:35:26.440 a guy can take. Like you're raising a kid that you think is yours, but it's not. So not only have

01:35:34.120 you just found out that your partner was cheating on you, infidelity, but also this child that assume

01:35:43.080 you love, how's that? And then you're probably your whole relationship is washed and it's all over.

01:35:48.600 And then it's all, it's a whole fucking mess. So yeah, paternity fraud is a big one. Um,

01:35:54.120 and it's a real fear for men. Like that's, that's a real fear. And so it's kind of just ingrained in

01:36:00.120 us evolutionarily. And, uh, yeah, we should, so we should try to circle back to the age gap stuff.

01:36:08.600 Um, so it seems pretty resounding that everyone here was like, Hey, age gap doesn't matter or no,

01:36:15.400 it doesn't. It is weird. Yeah. It is weird. It can be weird. Can be weird. Okay. Question.

01:36:23.880 So I was dating a 45 year old woman. I'm 33. I'm 33. I'm a dinosaur old man. Uh, I was dating a 45

01:36:32.520 year old woman chat. She wasn't a single mom. She didn't have kids. She's still a babe. Okay. She was

01:36:38.760 a babe. Uh, is that too much of an age gap? It's 12 years.

01:36:46.680 Were you like, Oh, why don't we start with Gabby? Gabby's dying to give her tail.

01:36:51.800 Um, I don't think that's like, there's anything wrong with that. If you're, you said 33 and she was

01:36:57.320 four, 45, 45. I feel like that's fine. Like you guys are both older. Yeah. Yeah. You guys experience

01:37:04.280 life. Like, I mean, go, go you repeat the question. Oh, into the microphone. Um, so I'm,

01:37:15.560 I'm 35. I was dating a 45 year old woman. That's a 12 year age gap. Any quarrel there? No. Okay.

01:37:21.800 Vina? Um, no, no quarrel. I feel like if you guys were trying to feel it out, that's cool.

01:37:30.520 You thought it was going to go somewhere. That's cool. Yeah. I agree. Like you guys are old enough

01:37:36.680 to the point where you're like that much of an age gap doesn't really matter. Yeah. Yeah. Same

01:37:43.000 thing. Like you're further into your adult life. So I don't think it's weird. Okay. And would you say

01:37:49.400 the reverses would be fine too? 45 year old man, 33 year old woman. Yeah. Okay. Fair, fair. Yeah. I think you

01:37:57.400 you guys did make the point earlier that, you know, it does depend on the age, you know,

01:38:03.560 like a 22 year old versus an 18 year old, even just a four year age gap there. That's, that's

01:38:09.800 still, I don't think, I don't think there's anything wrong with that at all, but it is,

01:38:14.440 you are quite in fairly different points. Well, not fairly different, but I mean, there is a bit

01:38:21.160 of a difference there. Um, whereas like 45 to 33, it's kind of like you're both been in

01:38:29.240 professionals for a while. You're, you know, so I think as you get older, age gap can get wider,

01:38:35.880 but I'm going to give my devil's advocate take here. So, um, I don't think there's any issue

01:38:43.640 assuming they're okay. Everyone has to be adults over the age of 18, but I don't think there's any

01:38:49.480 issue if you're, uh, 25 or if you're 30 and you want to date a 20 year old, you're 35 on the day,

01:38:57.400 the 25 year old, you're 29, one day, 19 year old. I don't think there's anything wrong with it.

01:39:02.200 I think 29 and 19, yes. So I, I don't think there's anything wrong with it. Um, and I, yeah,

01:39:10.840 anyone want to come in and be like, not really, I'm not going to challenge you, but like, I mean,

01:39:15.800 I agree. I just feel like it's just like the only issue, the only time when I have an issue

01:39:20.760 with it is when it's like fresh out of high school, you know, like when it's like, oh,

01:39:25.560 like the barely legal thing, barely legal, you know, like if, if they are like, say they're a

01:39:31.160 year in college and they're pretty mature than like, maybe, but still might be a little weird

01:39:36.680 from the guy's perspective. Yeah. I mean, I would just reiterate that I don't think

01:39:43.640 age necessarily dictates maturity. Yeah. And that's fine. And I've certainly like, so okay,

01:39:49.720 I'm, I'm 33, you know, most of my recent relationship, like relationships, dates,

01:39:56.600 whatever it's been with vast majority, like I'd say late twenties, early thirties, like I think

01:40:03.640 between like 25 and 34 has been majority of my age range. I certainly wouldn't object to dating

01:40:11.240 someone who was 18, 19, 20, 21, 22. Um, and just tying it into maturity. I've dealt with, I shouldn't,

01:40:20.520 maybe I shouldn't say, I'll say dealt with, I've dealt with, talked to, gone on dates with, uh, you

01:40:28.600 know, women who you'd think ought to have their shit together. I'm talking attorneys, I'm talking

01:40:34.040 to doctor, I'm talking more fucking nurses, stuff with all the fucking nurses on the dating apps,

01:40:39.320 by the way, more nurses than I can think of. Um, I dated a PhD or a professor or something. I dated

01:40:47.960 a teacher. I dated, uh, uh, trying to think here of all the kind of outing myself a little bit, um,

01:40:54.600 um, like a cancer researcher. I dated a pharmacist. Um, so all successful, like more older women and

01:41:06.440 shit doesn't change. People are still immature. Like, I mean, I think I got one thing that's

01:41:12.520 really important to me on a date, punctuality y'all late. Can y'all be on time? Can y'all show

01:41:24.440 up on time, but, uh, no, something that's important to me is punctuality. And even if you're running,

01:41:28.680 if you're running late and you let me know ahead of time, I do appreciate that. But there was, uh,

01:41:33.400 I was dating this 29 year old. Well, I shouldn't say I was dating her. I went on a singular day with

01:41:37.400 her. She's 29, you know, around my age, right? Okay. You'd think she's mature, right? 29, like researcher

01:41:46.520 at some company making six figures and she's 30 minutes for the date late for the date. I'm there

01:41:52.840 exactly on time because I'm punctual. She's, she's text me like five minutes past when she was supposed

01:42:00.440 to, you know, we were supposed to meet at seven. She texts me at seven Oh five. I'm already there for

01:42:05.320 five minutes. She's like, Oh, I'm 15 minutes. I'm be there in 15 minutes. Well, you should have told me

01:42:09.960 that 15 minute, 15 minutes ago. But, uh, and then she ends up being 30 minutes late and then she

01:42:15.960 shows up, not even an apology. Really? No, not even. I, I didn't want her to like get on her knees

01:42:23.560 and be like, I'm so sorry, but no, I just wanted like a token. Like, Hey, sorry, I'm late. How you

01:42:27.320 doing? But yeah. Cause she was late and she didn't even give me like a forewarning. So I don't know,

01:42:33.480 maybe I'm being a little, I agree. That's rude. I do think it's a bit rude to be that late.

01:42:37.640 And I would have been totally fine if she just said, Hey, sorry, I'm late. How you doing?

01:42:42.120 How's your day? And then just move on, but not even a sorry. So I was like, okay. All right.

01:42:48.840 You're like excited for the day. You're just like disappointed at that point. Oh yeah. I,

01:42:52.520 I torpedoed the shit out of that day. I was like, you're like, way to bring the food now. I need

01:42:58.520 to get out of here. What? I don't do food dates. Oh, that's smart. Don't do food dates. I actually

01:43:04.360 agree on that. Don't do food dates. Unless you're comfortable. We met for a drink,

01:43:07.880 like a quiet, you want to exit strategy. Exactly. Exactly. Cause like guys, no food dates,

01:43:14.840 no dinner dates for a couple of reasons. Uh, one, uh, well, one thing I like to talk to the girl

01:43:21.560 on the phone before I meet her. Like if I, if it's off of dating app, I want to have a conversation

01:43:25.160 with her because just so she can feel me out, I can feel her out because just texting, you can't

01:43:30.600 really cause everyone can be real fucking clever over a text message, but it like you have time

01:43:36.840 to think about what you want to say. But when it comes conversationally, then you know, it's a lot

01:43:41.640 different and then you can definitely suss out if they're fucking crazy over the phone, you know?

01:43:47.400 So I've definitely, and I've, I've actually had situations. Well, it's basically just a situation

01:43:52.120 where you can say, Hey, give them an opportunity to feel you out. Sometimes they don't like you,

01:43:57.960 you don't like them. And then you don't have to commit to meeting in person, going on the date

01:44:02.200 when you can figure that out and you know, a 15 minute phone call. But, uh, so, but if you go to

01:44:08.280 a dinner date, even if you've done a phone call and you've, you know, figured it out, if it's not

01:44:13.800 going good, you're stuck, you're kind of stuck there, you know? So I think first dates, first dates

01:44:19.240 should kind of be like low commitment, you know, just do something casual, coffee, walk, get a drink.

01:44:25.400 Yeah. That way, if you're feeling it great, you can continue there. If you're not feeling it,

01:44:29.880 you can politely excuse yourself. You know, you can end it where, or I mean, even if you just want

01:44:34.360 to be polite and just like have a conversation with them, stick around, I feel like dinner is

01:44:38.440 kind of awkward too. Plus with dinner, I don't know about you, but like when I eat, I just want to eat,

01:44:43.880 I want to talk, you know? Yeah. I feel like it's dinner is definitely a kind of intimate date,

01:44:48.520 you know? And I feel like that's, I feel like that's definitely not the move for like maybe

01:44:52.600 like third date if you're really feeling that person. Yeah. And you're trying to pay attention

01:44:56.200 to them, but like they're eating and like you're eating. Right. It's kind of awkward. Yeah.

01:45:01.240 Like, do I talk? Do I eat? Yeah. And yeah, exactly. Do I talk while I eat? Yeah. Because it's like,

01:45:06.840 you don't, you don't know this person well enough yet, so you don't want there to be an awkward silence.

01:45:10.920 Yeah. Yeah. But if you're eating like, and then, and then, oh, then you start talking and then your

01:45:17.320 food gets cold. Yeah. Yeah. And it's like like that, like we ordered food, we were talking and

01:45:21.960 like the conversation was good. So we just kept talking and the food just sat there. Like,

01:45:26.440 Yeah. And the waiter was like, are you guys going to finish now? Did you take it to go or just?

01:45:33.240 Yeah, we took it to go. Okay. But I don't think anything happened with the food. Oh yeah. Yeah. No,

01:45:38.040 that's, that's why I don't, I don't think food dates are good. I think food dates are better.

01:45:42.120 Once you've gotten to know the person a bit more, you're more comfortable and then you can actually,

01:45:45.800 you know, pause and eat. Cause I've had a situation where I'm like about to take a bite.

01:45:50.680 I'm about to take a bite out of the burger. And she asked me some like in-depth as fuck question.

01:45:56.760 10 minute conversation. That's going to take me like three minutes to answer. I'm like,

01:46:01.400 fuck, this is going to get cold. I'm be like, hold on. And then I'll start eating. But

01:46:08.040 yeah. So dinner date's no good. Get a drink, go for a walk, get coffee. But let me ask you guys

01:46:12.520 this. Have you ever done a foodie call? A foodie call. So it's like a booty call, but a foodie call,

01:46:21.080 you just trying to get dinner. You just like the guy asked you out for dinner. You're not really,

01:46:29.480 you're not really interested, Rafaela. I haven't. I've been asked on dates and

01:46:40.440 and like thought about that, but like, I just wouldn't, I don't know if I'm not interested in

01:46:44.040 the person, I don't want to put myself in that situation to go on a date with them. And then

01:46:48.520 like just for food, you know, like I can buy my own food. So I've, so I've done that, but only on

01:46:58.680 sugar daddy dates. Like I've had a couple sugar daddies and like, you had sugar daddies. Let's,

01:47:04.360 let's talk a bit about this. Yeah. So you go on. You've, you've done that a few times. Yeah. Like,

01:47:09.000 um, I just had one recently actually. Um, like a, it was like, wait, don't you have a boyfriend?

01:47:14.760 Well, it was before we started dating. It was like a couple of months ago. And, um, and I met

01:47:20.520 him on Tinder and then I was like, yeah, I'm only doing a sugar daddy though. I only want a sugar

01:47:24.680 daddy. And he's like, okay. Like, and I was like, okay, pay me this much to take me out to like dinner.

01:47:30.200 I was like, what? Yeah. The perks. So, so yeah. So I was like, oh, $400 for dinner. And he called me

01:47:39.800 on the phone. We talked, he liked my personality and he's like, okay, well I'm, I've never done this

01:47:44.280 before, but you're super beautiful. Like I wanted to do it. Like I really want to get to know you.

01:47:48.360 Like, so how about $200 for lunch? So I was like, okay, bet. So I was like free meal at a really nice

01:47:54.120 place and he's paying me. So then go ahead. Oh, so, and that was your first interact. The

01:48:00.200 first date was the lunch date. Yeah. And then you, so you asked for 200. Yeah. And then I assume he paid

01:48:06.200 for lunch. Yeah. He paid for it. And you want to know something funny? My boyfriend now is actually

01:48:10.360 came with me with a few of my coworkers and sat at like two tables away to watch and make sure that

01:48:17.640 like I was safe. It's like, what? It's a true story.

01:48:29.080 So, but they weren't eating with you at the table. No, no. They were just across watching.

01:48:37.080 How many, your boy, your now boyfriend and like a couple of friends. Okay. So me, so I go in before

01:48:42.720 them and then me and him are talking and everything and you know, it's going good. We're eating,

01:48:48.140 getting a couple of drinks with a sugar daddy. And then, um, my, he wasn't my boyfriend then,

01:48:54.480 but my boyfriend now, um, your friends, you guys, yeah, we were friends and we're coworkers.

01:48:58.160 We had hooked up a couple of times, but it was anything, you know? Sure. And then two of my

01:49:02.260 coworkers go and I see them sit at a table, like two tables diagonally from the diagonally

01:49:08.920 for me. And I can make eye contact with my boyfriend and like, and I like just kept a straight

01:49:14.160 face and just, we continued the date. And, um, and then afterward the sugar daddy like slid

01:49:20.320 me like $200 was like, I really liked you. Like, let's do this again. And then I was like,

01:49:26.240 yeah, sure. And then I was like, he said, Oh, do you need a ride? I was like, no, I have

01:49:30.380 someone coming to pick me up. I just waited till he left. And then I went and went back.

01:49:35.000 Yeah. I have so many questions. First question. How old was the guy? 40, 40. And you met on

01:49:42.360 Tinder. Yes. Okay. 40 years old. He met on Tinder and remind me you're 20, 20, 20.

01:49:49.380 What happened to the age gap thing? No, I, I did not. Well, okay. Okay. So like I did

01:49:58.140 not, I literally just wanted to make extra money. Like I did not like, there's nothing

01:50:02.900 physical. Like I was not planning on doing anything physical. He was paying me per date.

01:50:07.060 So I just went on a few dates with him and yeah, just got a couple. Yeah. Yeah. Like

01:50:13.820 literally hanging out, got a few nice dinners. I was like, yeah, like I want to go eat a nice

01:50:17.920 dinner. Like, sure. You can take me out on a date. Okay. So then did you, how many other

01:50:24.760 times did you see him? I only saw him twice. Twice. And then the second date, he also paid

01:50:30.540 you 200. He paid me. Yeah. He paid me 150 the second time. Why, why the downgrade? We

01:50:35.620 were going to, okay. So we were going to come up with an agreement that was like $1,200 a

01:50:41.100 month for eight dates. And then he was going to pay me per date till it reached eight dates.

01:50:47.860 Okay. Yeah. And so why didn't you continue with that? It just, you didn't like it or.

01:50:52.940 I, he was like too much. He was like in love with me right off the bat. He was like, do you

01:50:58.140 want to have kids? Like I eventually want you to be my girlfriend. I want you to be

01:51:01.360 more trusting with me. I want to kick this off. Like I want a relationship with you.

01:51:05.760 And it was just like really mentally taxing. And then, um, and then me and my boyfriend

01:51:11.560 started to get more serious and I, I, it was just too emotionally taxing. I couldn't do

01:51:15.460 it anymore. And I just also felt guilty because I felt like I was like lying to him, you know,

01:51:20.200 finessing him for the money. And I felt guilty. Huh? Okay. So only two times and it was

01:51:26.640 just lunch, uh, lunch and one dinner, one dinner. Okay. So kind of a foodie call and

01:51:33.220 it's kind of sugar baby situation, but you didn't really give him any sugar. Nope. No

01:51:39.600 sugar. Nope. No sugar was given. No sugar received. Nope. Just company. Honestly, I

01:51:45.840 don't, I don't get that dynamic at all. Was he like kind of socially awkward? Was he

01:51:52.060 unattractive? No, he wasn't. He was, he actually wasn't. It's not, he actually wasn't that

01:51:56.060 unattractive. I just wasn't attracted to him because the age gap and he was actually really

01:52:00.980 nice and really sweet. And we actually like really had a lot in common. Um, and it was

01:52:06.700 just that like, from my perspective, I think he was 40. I don't think he's had a serious

01:52:11.260 relationship. He's like grasping for a wife or something. Wait, he's never had a serious

01:52:16.400 relationship. He told you that? I don't think so. And that's a little trippy. You don't

01:52:21.620 think he didn't tell you about his past relationship history or? Well, he's never had a wife. He

01:52:25.680 told me, I've never had a wife. I've never had kids. I've always been super focused on

01:52:28.860 my career. So. Was he very wealthy? Very wealthy. He had a Bentley. Do you know he had

01:52:34.680 a Bentley? Yeah. Did he ever tell you how much money he made like per year? No, but he told

01:52:39.120 me he's the president of a financial company. Don't say the company, but. I don't, I'm not

01:52:43.140 going to say the company. Okay. So he's probably, I mean, he's a president of a company, which

01:52:48.200 does things in over 47 different like country or not countries, uh, States. Okay. Interesting.

01:52:55.320 Yeah. Very interesting. Yeah. Have you ever had any other sugar daddy? I have actually. How

01:53:01.920 many sugar daddy situations? I actually, when I was a freshman, was it freshman in college?

01:53:06.180 No, I was a sophomore. So, um, I just would go on like these dating apps and be like,

01:53:12.560 Hey, like I'm a pro college student. I need some help. Would you mind sending me a money,

01:53:16.780 like money to help pay for tuition? And this guy sent me a hundred bucks. And then, so he's

01:53:21.300 like, Hey, I want to take you on a sushi date. Like I want to help you out. So I went on one

01:53:25.360 sushi date with him and then, um, he paid me a hundred dollars after and was like, Hey,

01:53:30.700 if you ever want to go shopping, if you ever need anything, like let me know. And then,

01:53:34.640 so every once in a while I'll be like, Hey, like I need money for bills. Can you send me

01:53:37.840 money? He'd send me $200 here, 300 there. And then actually beginning of this beginning

01:53:43.820 of last year, like I didn't talk to him for six months. I was like, Hey, I need money for

01:53:47.880 dinner. Like, can I have some money? We didn't talk for six months. He was like, Oh, I don't

01:53:52.080 have Venmo or anything. I'll leave you cash like under my mat. So I went and picked up 80

01:53:56.300 bucks. He gave me like some money. And you never hooked up with him. Oh, I went on one sushi

01:54:00.560 date for him and I didn't, that was it. I met him once. Okay. So no sugar. And then it

01:54:05.560 sounded like there were a couple more maybe, but so, and these were all on

01:54:09.020 Tinder. One was on this one app called meet me. Oh, seeking arrangements. I have

01:54:15.800 done that before, but I, that's too sketchy, honestly. Okay. Cause that is

01:54:19.880 like the, if you want an arrangement, that's where you, yeah, that's like

01:54:24.280 people expect sugar. But so you were, so you were just on Tinder, but it sounded

01:54:28.880 like with at least one of them, you, was it on your profile or in your bio that

01:54:34.960 you were trying to set this arrangement up? Not at all. So like, you would just

01:54:38.800 message them and be like, I want money. No, no. It would be like, so like, I'll

01:54:43.500 give you an example. The last one, the last one, his name, I'm not going to say his

01:54:47.580 name, but where'd I go? I'm going to call him T. So T messages me. He was like,

01:54:54.320 Tyrone. We'll call him Tyrone. Okay. Tyrone. So Tyrone messages me. He's like, Hey,

01:55:00.760 you're super beautiful. Like, and I was just started talking to him. I was like,

01:55:04.360 Oh, Hey, how are you? You know, kind of whatever. And he was, I was like, Oh,

01:55:08.740 here's my number. Or he was like, Oh, here's my number. Text me. And I told him

01:55:12.260 off the bat. I was like, Oh, I'm looking for a sugar daddy. He's like, okay. Like

01:55:14.860 I've never done that before, but like, let's talk more about it. So then he

01:55:17.960 texts me. And then I think we'd had a few conversations, but I was in school at the

01:55:22.040 time. I was way too busy. So I didn't talk to him for like two months. And then he

01:55:26.040 texts me out of the blue. Hey, let's get dinner. Hey, like, let me take you out for

01:55:30.340 lunch, this and that. Like, and then, um, finally I was like, Oh yeah,

01:55:33.280 like I'm looking for a sugar daddy. I do this much for a date. And then he's

01:55:37.560 like, okay, call me. Let's talk more about it. And then that's when we moved it

01:55:40.720 onto it. Okay. Got it. Yeah. But Tinder's where it's at girls. Like if you're

01:55:45.220 looking to get like a sugar daddy, set your age gap all the way up and then

01:55:49.420 like swipe, right. And then just be like, Hey, looking for a sugar daddy, talk to

01:55:54.060 them, be nice. Don't like be too demanding, you know? All right. You're giving the

01:55:58.300 girls some game on getting a sugar daddy. So, um, so we're going to kind of make

01:56:03.420 this two questions then. Rafaela, have you ever had, I said your name, right?

01:56:07.140 Yeah. Okay. Have you ever had a sugar daddy? No. Okay. So have you ever been on

01:56:13.800 the foodie call and have you ever had a sugar daddy? Um, I have been on a foodie

01:56:18.940 call, but it was like, um, went to hang out with someone type of thing. Um, and sugar

01:56:24.160 daddy, it was like in the progress of happening, but it never happened because

01:56:32.200 I got scared of like actually going to meet this guy. You got, you got worried

01:56:35.880 about meeting him. Yeah. Okay. So, but you had a prospect, you had a sugar daddy

01:56:40.660 prospect. Yeah. Okay. And how did you meet him? Tinder? Um, actually he reached out

01:56:46.200 on Instagram and he actually reached out to Gabby too. We were going to do it

01:56:52.260 together. The double finesse. Wait, do it together? He wanted to hang out with both

01:56:58.160 of us. Oh, at the same time. Oh, so it was a, he wanted sugar. No, he wanted to like

01:57:03.940 talk and stuff. I feel like any guy, like they're angling, they want sex. Well, yeah,

01:57:10.800 but they're not going to say that. They don't want to scare us off. You know, they'll,

01:57:14.080 they'll still pay to take us out on the first date. I mean, guys, don't be

01:57:17.620 fucking, come on, dude. Don't do that. Don't be these dudes. Don't do it. Don't

01:57:22.120 do it. Money to like hang out at the beach. Bruv. Was he, was he socially

01:57:28.400 awkward? What was his thing? Good looking? We FaceTimed him. How old was he? He was

01:57:33.960 like 50. 50? Okay. Yeah. He was cool, but we were just scared to go like actually

01:57:41.920 meet him. Guys, don't be, don't be fucking sugar daddies. Don't fucking

01:57:47.320 still. I don't know if I can say simp because we're streaming on Twitch, but

01:57:51.340 fuck it. Whatever. Don't be a simp. Don't fucking guys. Come on. I know. I know

01:57:55.980 I'm like y'all, y'all trying to, you know, finesse it, but come on guys. Don't

01:58:01.040 fucking simp. Okay. So he messaged you guys on Instagram and he wanted a

01:58:06.860 threesome. No, actually no. He DM'd us like both individually. I just don't, I

01:58:12.920 don't get, I don't get it. No, we were like talking about like our DMs one day

01:58:16.400 and I was like, oh my God, like this sugar daddy DM'd me. She was like, wait, he DM'd

01:58:19.100 me too. And we're like, oh my, like he was just going around like UCSB girls, I

01:58:22.620 think. And so we were like, we told him, we're like, oh, like Hannah's my best

01:58:25.860 friend. We were like done to hang out, but. Scary. Yeah. Always be safe. For your own

01:58:33.380 safety. Yeah. Like can go. Always have a guy friend come and watch. Yeah.

01:58:38.520 Somewhere safe. We didn't even give him our number. We gave him like our friend's

01:58:41.440 number. Smart. Would you do that just like on a regular date though? Like a guy

01:58:46.100 you're actually interested in, would you go on a date, but then like there's a

01:58:50.820 fucking guy friend in the corner or some shit. To me, that'd be kind of weird. No,

01:58:55.140 I wouldn't do that. Like if I found out, I'd be like, it's just kind of weird.

01:58:59.320 Like, no. I mean, if it's a guy my own age, I would feel fine. Sure. Yeah. Have

01:59:04.240 you ever been on a foodie call? Have you ever had a sugar daddy? Wait, foodie

01:59:09.340 call, foodie call as like, I wanted food. Yeah. You just wanted food. The guy

01:59:13.920 wanted to take you to dinner and. Yeah. I, I've been on a foodie call. Okay. And

01:59:18.380 what was the second question? Sugar daddy? Ever had a sugar daddy? No. Not a foodie call,

01:59:23.500 but like this random Instagram account DM me on Instagram and he was like saying

01:59:32.420 like, Oh, I'll like Venmo you. And like, I don't get sketched out with Venmo. I get

01:59:37.880 sketched out with like PayPal or cash app. And so I was like, Oh, okay. Like here's

01:59:42.140 my Venmo. And he like Venmo'd me $10. And I would just like, just text him and be

01:59:46.640 like, Hey, can I have money? And he'd send me like 10 bucks. No. So I don't think

01:59:51.300 that's like, it's not like a big sugar daddy, but like, he just like sent me money and I

01:59:56.360 didn't even like send anything. I just talked to him. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And it wasn't even

02:00:07.860 like, like gross. He, he was like a producer for, he like helped out with star Wars. Star

02:00:14.680 Wars. Oh yeah. I don't know. Gabby says, um, I have never been on a foodie call. If I'm

02:00:19.680 going on a date with you, I really have to be genuinely interested. So I wouldn't waste

02:00:22.920 like both of our times. And, um, no, I don't ever had a sugar daddy besides. I mean,

02:00:29.060 that's like, this happened four days ago. I was in Montecito just like watching the sunset

02:00:33.920 by myself. And this like 50 year old, probably like 40 came up to my car while I was like alone

02:00:40.720 and tried to like, get me to go home with him. And he was like, I'll pay you. Like I have

02:00:44.500 a home in Montecito. I was like, no, I was alone too. And I was like really scared.

02:00:48.820 I was like, so yeah, he was like, he's like, I'll take you out on a sushi date and like,

02:00:53.860 I'll pay you. Like he told, he was like, I'll take you to Hawaii too. I was like already

02:00:57.740 offering. I wish a 40 year old woman came up to me and said, Brian, I'll pay for your dinner.

02:01:07.820 I'll take you to Hawaii. I got you. Yeah. I do understand. It's a bit different though. Um,

02:01:14.920 I don't, but I don't really think there are really, I know there are like,

02:01:19.060 there are some sugar mamas, but that shit's rare. My friend had one. That's yeah, but it's rare.

02:01:26.220 Like it's, I've had sugar mom. Like I'll take care of you.

02:01:31.580 $100 or whatever. And I feel like the sugar mamas or whatever, they mostly go for younger guys.

02:01:37.480 I think. Yeah. Like in their 20s. So like the cougars they're going for. Yeah. Yeah. Right.

02:01:43.800 Okay. Huh. Maybe got to shoot for the sixties. What a mess. Okay. Um, we got some super chats here.

02:01:51.260 We're going to read, let me pull these up. We got brawlio V with the $5 soup chat. Thank you,

02:01:59.460 man for the support. Much appreciated. Just curious. Why is there only female guests having

02:02:05.740 guys on the podcast would give other interesting perspectives? So, uh, I can answer that. So

02:02:12.180 there's kind of two, well, so I've considered doing like three guys versus three girls kind

02:02:19.660 of like, and then just having like, uh, each give their take. But I think the big thing is,

02:02:26.140 is that I, I have the freedom to speak my mind because I think if a lot of guys are honest

02:02:36.380 about their preferences, their boundaries, their standards, it's going to be met with contempt.

02:02:43.140 It's going to be met with reprisal. Like for example, if you're a guy and you say, I don't

02:02:47.240 want to date a fat woman. Now you can, you can say it more tactfully, but if you say that,

02:02:52.260 oh, fat shaming, that's fat phobic. How dare you? Nope. But nobody bats an eye. If a girl says,

02:02:59.220 Hey, I want to date a guy to six feet. Nobody fucking, nobody cares. Right? So you're going to,

02:03:03.340 as a guy, you're most, most men's preferences are met with contempt. Um, so for example,

02:03:11.280 if you want to date a woman who's younger, if you want to date a woman who doesn't have

02:03:15.780 a promiscuous past, if you want to date a woman who's feminine, if you want to date a woman who's

02:03:20.900 submissive, all these things, right? People are going to take quarrel with that. Not everybody,

02:03:26.540 but people will take quarrel with that. And I feel like a lot of guys are not going to be able to be

02:03:29.820 honest about what they want. Also guys have to lie to get women. So there's that too.

02:03:35.900 Yeah. So, so I think guys, it's hard for guys to be honest about what they want. Um, so

02:03:45.620 yeah. Uh, I hope that sufficiently answered your question, but I actually am entertaining,

02:03:54.080 bringing on some guys, but my concern is like a lot of guys, there's like this concept of what's

02:04:00.580 called like a white night. So they're just going to simp for the girls and they're like going to give

02:04:05.800 a very politically correct take and that's fine. Maybe they genuinely believe it, but like a lot of

02:04:12.760 guys, like most guys are just going to placate. So Justin with the $10 soup chat. Thank you for

02:04:20.160 the support, man. Much appreciated. My parents worked together. My father 44, never married.

02:04:24.360 And my mother 20, she was interested, but he wanted her to be 21 on her 21st birthday. They went out

02:04:30.700 three years later. They married dad to 71 and mom 47 now. Okay. Work together. So that is a

02:04:37.460 24 year age gap. So wait, he was 44. She was 20. Uh, how, how old is his parents? I mean, I feel

02:04:50.540 like it's, it's almost as time has gone on, it's actually starting like age gaps. I think are viewed

02:04:56.800 worse now amongst adults, you know, but, uh, all right. Within the context of an adult relationship.

02:05:03.740 So, uh, let me ask the panel, like, would you guys, he's 44 moms or 44 guy, 20 year old woman.

02:05:13.340 I mean, I think I already know the answer, but thumbs up or thumbs down on that.

02:05:20.900 It's kind of hard. I'm like in the middle. Is that allowed? In the middle?

02:05:25.060 I don't know. Yeah. Okay. Uh, Justin, I mean, I don't, it's not, are they still married? It sounds

02:05:33.360 like they're, uh, you didn't really mention that in your comment, but if they're happily married,

02:05:38.100 then that's awesome. Um, word, but let's see next super chat. Our buddy again, Abo Salamain.

02:05:50.220 I must've missed it. I wasn't reading chat. If anybody let us know what, uh, currency that is.

02:05:55.360 Uh, thank you for the 25 SAR. Is there an innocent friendship between a woman and a man? If yes,

02:06:00.840 will you accept that for your partner to have, is there an innocent friendship between a woman and a

02:06:05.520 man? So basically if your boyfriend and girlfriend, uh, if they have a platonic relationship with

02:06:12.900 someone of the opposite sex, is that, would you accept that? Uh, yeah, we can go around the panel

02:06:19.380 with that. Uh, Gabby, would you be okay with your long-term serious monogamous boyfriend being

02:06:26.040 friends with a girl? Yeah, definitely. Cause I know I have like guy friends and they don't

02:06:31.340 want to like fuck me or anything. Like they don't have feelings for me. So wait, hold on. So

02:06:36.240 question, question on that though. So you, you have a couple of guy friends. Do you think

02:06:42.000 if given the opportunity, if you said, Hey, do you want to hook up? Definitely not. Would they hook

02:06:49.440 up with you? No. And of your single guy friends, if you said that, would they hook up with you?

02:06:54.920 No. Can we test it? Can you text them right now? Can you text them right now? Okay. We'll go

02:07:00.060 around the table, text, text a couple of those guy friends. Just say, uh, what should she say?

02:07:03.840 They're probably watching. But say what, would you be down? Are you down to hook up? What are you

02:07:11.960 doing? That's too vague. I'll be like, Hey, do you want, what are you doing? What are you doing

02:07:16.020 tonight? Would you want to come over and do you want to hook up? Do you want to watch

02:07:20.000 a movie? Do you want to cuddle? How about that? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's watching

02:07:31.060 text a couple, text three. Um, so I guess we can rephrase the question. Uh, do you think

02:07:37.700 men and women, men and women can be friends? Yes. Oops. Um, yeah. I mean like my boyfriend

02:07:45.160 does have like girlfriends and like, I'm okay with it. Okay. As long as he stays loyal.

02:07:53.640 Sure. I don't know simply because I thought I could stay in a friendship with my now boyfriend

02:08:03.540 and it just like, it didn't work like that. We thought we could just stay friends and we

02:08:09.940 couldn't. So that's my personal experience on that. Um, I think it's fine. My best friend

02:08:17.700 ever is a dude. And so it'd be kind of hypocritical of me and I don't think I would mind. I know

02:08:25.660 he doesn't want to, he doesn't want to, does he have a girlfriend right now? No. Can you

02:08:30.900 text him? Yeah. Okay. Text him. He might, he might be watching though. Right. I don't

02:08:36.020 know. Do you want to know something? Uh, do I, do I? I dated him in the past. No way.

02:08:44.500 Well, so you slept with him before. Yeah. Okay. Well then of course, if you, but like,

02:08:51.580 Oh, that's, well, okay. Let me tell you how it went. We were in high school. We were really

02:08:55.040 young and we dated, we were best friends and then we dated and then we broke up because

02:09:01.880 like it was not working. And like looking back on it, we both think that we should have

02:09:06.980 never dated. That's how it is. So you were friends, you dated. We thought that it should

02:09:13.900 be something more. Cause we were just like, so like connected and stuff. And we were young,

02:09:17.260 like we were like 16 and then we broke up and then like now we're like, we, we should

02:09:25.960 have never dated. We should have never done that. Okay. Got it. If I texted him right

02:09:31.140 now, he would still say no. Okay. That's a difficult situation because you'd hooked up

02:09:37.020 in the past. Yeah. Now your friends. Um, yeah, just text him just out of curiosity. Why not?

02:09:45.100 Um, Naomi. Okay. So I think it's like mixed views. Like, cause I have a lot of guy friends

02:09:50.860 and I definitely know some of them. If I text him right now, they'd be like, yeah, but I

02:09:55.300 also have other guy friends who it's completely platonic, like would never happen, you know?

02:10:01.100 And, um, like literally always just friends. And then, so yeah, I would accept that for

02:10:07.520 my partner half. Like we have a lot of coworkers where it's a whole group of guys and girls

02:10:11.520 and like, I would let him like go off and hang out with whoever and I trust him. I know

02:10:16.160 he wouldn't do anything. Yeah. So I think it's fun. Yeah. Likewise. I think that men and women

02:10:21.360 can definitely have, um, innocent friendships and I think it's healthy too. I mean, we're human.

02:10:26.240 We're meant to be in relationship and friendships with others. So yeah. And I think it'd

02:10:30.780 also be weird too, to set a boundary with your partner and that they couldn't have girlfriends.

02:10:36.280 I don't know. What if he's hooked up with the girl before and then they were like friends?

02:10:41.600 Yeah. Then that's kind of tricky. I don't really like that. Yeah. Let's check in with Gabby

02:10:47.260 here. Have you, have you received a response? Um, yes. I texted Justin. Justin Bond? Oh my

02:10:56.540 God, the sugar daddy just texted me again. Oh my God. He's watching. Wait, is he just

02:11:00.880 been following? Is he watching? Justin's a girlfriend. I don't know. Okay. One of them

02:11:05.940 just sent this. He didn't, he didn't say anything. He just said, and then one just responded.

02:11:13.300 He said, no, you'd be fighting dudes. No, you'd be. So you have a history of domestic violence?

02:11:19.700 No. He's just joking around. Okay. But yeah. And then the other one hasn't responded. Okay.

02:11:25.860 Well, maybe we'll check back in later. Did you hear back from? No. Okay. Wait, when

02:11:30.460 was the last time that you and, um, this friend hooked up? Like when we dated, like, we only

02:11:36.080 dated for like four months. Okay. So like 16. So like, did you guys like hook up after? No.

02:11:41.080 No, it was just that. And then. The fuck? Braulio. Yeah. Okay. Just ignore my question,

02:11:47.940 Brian. You weird. I answered your question. I think pretty well. I think I went into at

02:11:55.140 least two minutes to raid. Um, so pretty sure I answered it. If you want to pose another question,

02:12:03.840 that's fine. Um, so, okay, where are we? And we're going to probably wrap up here in about

02:12:09.200 10, 15 minutes. Uh, let's see. So where does anyone recall where we were? Um, we were talking

02:12:19.340 about sugar daddies and foodie calls. I don't know how we got there. So foodie calls. How many

02:12:28.580 do you think most men are like 18, 19, 20, 21 year old men? Let's say your male counterparts

02:12:35.660 are getting these offers for like sugar daddies or sugar mamas for sugar mamas. No, I've, I've

02:12:43.200 never had anyone offer to be my sugar mama or even a sugar daddy. If a gay dude comes by

02:12:48.040 never had that, ain't nobody coming around. So yeah. It's like so rare that that happens

02:12:54.340 to like, uh, 18, 19, 20 year old guys I've never heard of. I'm sure it happens, but it's

02:13:01.420 so, it's such an outlier. Like if we look at all the sugar daddies and sugar mamas, it's

02:13:07.040 probably like 99% are sugar daddies and there's like 1%, like one that's sugar mama. So I don't,

02:13:16.620 I don't get it. I don't get it. I think it has to do with like the fact that it's usually

02:13:20.180 like older guys asking younger girls. I think it's a lot to do with like power or like status

02:13:24.220 thing too, or like an ego boost for those men because they are the ones that have the

02:13:28.980 money and the resources and they're able to provide for the women. I mean, I, I, yeah,

02:13:33.760 I have a theory. I suspect it's just they're older and it's one way in which they can make

02:13:43.500 themselves more competitive because why date this 40 year old when you can date a guy who's

02:13:53.740 around your age, maybe a couple of years older. So like they don't stand a chance, but maybe

02:13:58.820 if they lead with their money, then maybe they can, they have a chance. I don't know. It's

02:14:04.600 just such a weird dynamic and then it's transactional, but I don't know, whatever, whatever. Uh, so

02:14:11.680 what I want to do is I want to open it up to you guys. If you guys want to ask me a question,

02:14:16.780 ask the other girls a question, I'm going to open it up. Yeah. Wait, I don't know if you

02:14:22.180 answered it, but what's your body count? Oh yeah. Oh yeah. You're really good with like

02:14:27.340 people are so bad. Steering away from questions. So, um, I, uh, you said you went on a lot of

02:14:39.000 dates. Whoa. I'm a, I'm a man of God. Oh, really? So, uh, I, I do not, uh, I do not kiss

02:14:45.880 and tell. Did you reclaim your virginity? I'm very discreet. Did I reclaim? Yes. I'm a born

02:14:50.560 again. I'm a born again virgin. Uh, that's my answer. It's okay. Me too. Um, yeah. I,

02:14:56.620 uh, how about what, why don't you guess? Yes. Yes. Um, 30, 43, 25 to 30, 43, 12, 10, 10, 10

02:15:15.960 or 11. Gabby in the twenties, in the twenties. Who is the closest? I can either confirm or

02:15:21.600 deny any of these guesses as a man of God. Um, yeah. Do you have a question? Me? Yeah.

02:15:31.560 No, I think I'm good for either me or for the panel. Um, or a final thought or a final

02:15:39.920 thought, final thought. No, uh, final thought. Um, I think you, everyone should live their

02:15:46.360 life to the fullest and enjoy their life. And if you find someone you like and fully go

02:15:50.980 for it, um, really try to work it out with that person. Try not to put too much thought

02:15:56.020 into social constructs and try not too much to be in your head about things. Kind of go

02:16:01.340 with the vibes guys. Yeah. Yeah. I'll give, um, a final thought. I think that if you're going

02:16:09.780 to talk to someone and do stuff or whatever, um, just kind of assess your guys' mindset,

02:16:15.760 that's probably what's going to matter more than anything else, age, body count, whatever

02:16:19.840 it is. So just like talk about it with them. You'll probably feel better about whatever you're

02:16:25.480 wondering anyways. Any question or final thought? Um, final thought. I think everyone exactly

02:16:33.660 like Naomi said, should live their life to the fullest. Uh, definitely love yourself before

02:16:38.180 you start loving anybody else. And yeah. The same final thought or question. Okay. Live

02:16:46.420 your life. Don't care what other people think. No, you're just going to do you. And as long

02:16:52.360 as you're happy, it doesn't matter what other people think. Same. Yeah. As long as you're

02:16:58.020 happy, yeah, it doesn't matter. No questions. Okay. So I think we have one more super chat

02:17:06.420 here. Let me pull that up. If you guys want to get a super chat in real quick, we can do

02:17:10.660 that. Uh, can you get out of the friend zone? If so, then how honestly, so, okay, I'll give

02:17:18.360 my take and if the girls want to, they can come in, uh, just find somebody else. Like, I mean,

02:17:25.400 I mean, you can work on yourself, become better, hit the gym, work on your finances, become a

02:17:31.800 better person, but like, I don't know. I don't believe in like soulmates or any of that

02:17:36.240 shit. So just, there's a lot of people out there. Don't, don't put all your eggs in a

02:17:41.380 one basket. Yeah. I mean, can you, you can get out of the friend zone. I think, um, go

02:17:47.300 to the gym, work your ass off, show them what they missed out on and maybe they'll come back.

02:17:53.060 Who knows? Yeah. There's this old Mike Jones song that goes something like back then hoes

02:17:58.720 didn't want me. Now I'm hot hoes all on me. So get your, get your money, right? Maybe

02:18:04.540 get a little clout, get some status, uh, get fit. But you know, honestly, like I think,

02:18:10.780 you know, there's a saying, don't chase, replace. That person ain't worth it. If you literally

02:18:15.740 need to change the way you are for them to be with you. Yeah. I don't think it would work

02:18:20.320 out. It's probably just like a chase thing. Or you have to like prove something to them

02:18:24.040 that you're like worth their time. I don't think they're the right one. It's not the right

02:18:28.080 person. Yeah. Uh, we got another, I'll show it. I think, is this make me smile? You coming

02:18:33.840 in from another, uh, he's coming in from another, uh, account, but I'll show it. Fine. We got

02:18:39.040 a hater here. Mike Davis with the $10 super chat. Thank you for the $10 super chat. Hey,

02:18:43.940 just, just in the chat. Like I know you're making me smile, dude. Um, Brian, where did you

02:18:47.700 find this pack of groupies? Craigslist or happy? You should have specified if it was missed

02:18:53.320 connections, but, uh, Craigslist or happy hour. Also don't ignore the fact that you're an Andrew

02:18:58.040 Tate wannabe bottom G. Um, I don't know. No, I wouldn't say I'm an Andrew Tate wannabe. I,

02:19:04.680 I, I agree with him on some things. I disagree with him on some things. Um, so, uh, yeah. Haters

02:19:12.920 gonna hate, uh, thank, thank you for the 10 bucks, Mike. Appreciate it. Literally spent

02:19:18.440 his money to hate it. Yeah. That's a person that has no life right there. So, uh, sorry,

02:19:25.960 where were we? Uh, I forgot. Final thoughts, final thoughts. Gabby, did you get to, uh, the

02:19:31.560 third guy just said LMAO. Who's the third guy? He's just my friend. Who? Just my friend.

02:19:37.700 His name's Barris. Oh, Barris. Yeah. He's probably, they're watching. They're watching.

02:19:43.460 No, he didn't tell the podcast question. He knows. Okay. Yeah. He knows. He knows. Yeah. Um,

02:19:50.360 so I think just to go back, um, I didn't, I think I kind of got distracted on one of my takes. So we're

02:19:56.480 talking a bit about the age thing. Um, and I was just sort of, I think I talked about the,

02:20:01.980 uh, yeah, I was talking about Habsburg Tara is her nickname. I gave her the one who's 30 minutes

02:20:08.520 late. Oh yeah. I mean, so I've definitely had experiences where I've been on dates with women

02:20:15.080 who are around my age and like being older, it does not preclude you from being immature.

02:20:23.880 It doesn't preclude you from being a good, uh, or hold on. How am I? It doesn't preclude you from

02:20:30.140 being a bad partner. It doesn't preclude you from us not getting along, us not having a connection.

02:20:36.980 Um, so yeah, I mean, I'm trying to think I've, man, I've had, I've been flaked on by like career,

02:20:45.360 like women who are, have their shit together, career women, like they're flaky. I still,

02:20:50.100 you still deal with that same sort of like bullshit that I think everyone deals with when it comes to

02:20:56.000 dating. People are flaky, people ghosts, like all that stuff. So I mean, at the end of the day,

02:21:02.600 it's kind of like, well, and I'm going to say something, this might be controversial, but I do

02:21:07.440 think that, and I, I think this is the case for me. I think I was more physically attractive when I was

02:21:13.920 younger. I think I was more physically attractive at 23 than I am now at 33. Likewise, I think like

02:21:20.580 a woman is going to be more, maybe I'm going to get canceled for saying this, a woman's going to

02:21:26.100 be more attractive at 23 than she's going to be at when she's 33. To me, that's common sense. To me,

02:21:32.560 that's just common sense, but some people are going to say, oh, that's like, and I do think some men

02:21:38.020 age, uh, I don't, I don't think that was the case for me. I think I was better looking when I was

02:21:43.280 younger. Um, but I mean, so if you have, if you have a choice, like I think physical, being physically

02:21:50.420 attracted to someone is important, not to, uh, not to say that I don't find like someone who's in

02:21:56.980 their thirties, a woman who's in her thirties physically attractive, but I mean, if you had to

02:22:01.660 choose between her physical, like her physical attractiveness, it's going to be better when she's

02:22:07.120 at 20. So there's that. Um, and does anyone want to come in on that or no? Okay. Okay.

02:22:17.140 I feel like younger guys, I always look at them as like child, you know, but I, I do think it's

02:22:25.680 different though. Like, I do think like, would you say you like older men in the sense that like a guy

02:22:31.980 who's maybe one, two or three years older than you? I don't have like a preference for like older

02:22:37.480 men and like even younger men, like say like right now I'm 20, I wouldn't go 18, but I would go 19 or

02:22:44.200 20 if they are like mature enough. Okay. Yeah. That's my boyfriend's age. He's a year younger than me.

02:22:51.620 Yeah. And it's like totally fine. I never thought I would go for that, but like, it's totally fine.

02:22:56.980 Sure. Word, word. But, uh, yeah, I mean, there, there's other things too, when it just comes to

02:23:05.080 the age thing again, like the body count is a thing. Um, there's a higher likelihood she's going

02:23:10.580 to, she's had some baggage from a previous relationship that she's going to bring into it.

02:23:16.340 Um, trying to think what else also, I mean, the other thing that this is another factor that I

02:23:22.900 actually just realized that I've kind of forgotten to touch on is if you want children,

02:23:27.360 then let's say you're a, you're 35, 40 as a guy. Uh, if you want children, if you're dating within

02:23:38.060 your age cohort, it, I think 35, it starts becoming more difficult for a woman to get pregnant. So

02:23:45.560 that's, and so that, that is another, I think, biological component is that once you, you can still

02:23:51.680 get pregnant after 35, but it's much, the likely it's not as likely. And then it's more complicated.

02:23:59.260 There's, yeah, it's a higher risk pregnancy, higher risk of miscarriage. Uh, so I mean, let's say

02:24:05.200 you're 40 and you just haven't gotten around to having kids. You're going to maybe be looking at

02:24:10.380 someone who's 30 or younger. If, if that's really what you want, because you know, if you want kids

02:24:19.320 as a man, you can kind of do that till you're forever for the most part, till it's powder,

02:24:27.200 till it's, till it's powder. Um, whereas a woman, she has a kind of a limited time in which she can

02:24:35.820 get pregnant, bring the pregnancy to term, have a healthy child. I think in fact, like birth defects

02:24:40.500 increase also. So that's another thing to consider. Um, so I mean, that's certainly one thing. If you want

02:24:47.000 to have kids, that is why, that is another reason why men will have a preference for younger. Uh, so

02:24:54.680 yeah. Um, trying to think if there's anything else I can add to that. Um, yeah, just, uh, I don't know.

02:25:05.980 And I, I've, it's been my experience that younger women, adults, younger, well, younger women, uh,

02:25:14.600 tend to be more feminine and submissive. So

02:25:20.480 that's cool. If that's what you're looking for.

02:25:27.800 Yeah. If that's what you're looking for.

02:25:30.160 We'll go with the flow.

02:25:32.380 Yeah. So, um, so I, I guess to kind of wrap up the conversation about, um, body count, age gaps, um,

02:25:39.760 I'll ask one kind of final question. Would you take issue with a man who had a preference for

02:25:46.180 dating someone who was younger and for dating someone who had a low body count? And let's start with

02:25:52.060 Gabby. Okay. Start with Rafaela.

02:25:55.240 If I would, um,

02:26:00.880 wait for read, like an issue with the man in general or an issue with the man as like a romantic partner.

02:26:06.520 Okay. So I guess, would you just take quarrel with, or would you take issue with

02:26:13.840 regardless of if you are romantically interested in this person? If, if a guy said, Hey,

02:26:21.260 I just prefer dating. I prefer dating younger women. This is my preference. Also, I prefer dating

02:26:27.820 women who have a lower body count. Would you take issue with that?

02:26:33.000 Hmm. I think I would take issue with the fact that he prefers to date younger women,

02:26:41.620 but the lower body count, I don't think I would have an issue with. Okay. Yeah. I mean, like in my

02:26:48.740 opinion, I know that everyone's going to disagree. Everyone has their preferences and they're going

02:26:52.900 to stick to that regardless whether I take an issue with it or not. So I'm like, as long as you're not

02:26:57.460 like, as long as I'm not considering dating them, then I'm not going to like come at this person and

02:27:02.500 be like, well, that's wrong. Like, you know, and tell them that their preference wrong. You do whatever,

02:27:06.660 you know, it's fine. It's whatever. I'll do my own thing, you know? Yeah, I agree. I feel like it's just

02:27:14.980 based on everyone's preferences. As long as it's not creepy. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Yeah. Likewise. I think

02:27:26.700 everybody has their own preference. Everyone has their choices. Yeah. The same thing. Like it's you

02:27:36.120 do you. I'll do me. Sure. Same thing. Preferences. Okay, cool. Yeah. I mean, I think everyone's entitled to

02:27:42.880 have their preferences, boundaries and standards. I do think it is the case that

02:27:48.700 oftentimes when a man has a preference boundary or standard, not always depends on what, but

02:27:58.420 oftentimes people are going to, they might look at him like, Hey, they might judge him. They might

02:28:05.680 hold, they might see that like shame him if he has a preference. Um, so my take is women are allowed to

02:28:15.260 have preferences. Men are allowed to have preferences. I don't think those preference

02:28:19.220 preferences necessarily align. I think men and women want different thing. I don't think attraction is

02:28:25.100 symmetrical in the, in the sense that what you find attractive in the guy, men may not necessarily

02:28:31.640 find attractive in women. Yeah. So traits like, I mean, would you want a guy who's capable of like

02:28:39.700 protecting you, providing who's leader, confident, ambitious, these sorts of things tall. Okay.

02:28:47.080 And I don't think some of these things guys don't necessarily care about in women. So that's fair.

02:28:55.120 So, okay. Um, we're going to leave it at that. Um, Oh, we, sorry. We've got some super chats guys.

02:29:01.860 We're going to have the soup chats and then we're going to wrap up. Okay. Wow. We got a lot here.

02:29:06.280 Really? Let's see. Uh, Francisco Cruz Cortez with the $5 soup chat. Naomi is the homie on one of my

02:29:15.900 favorite channels. Keep up the good work. Is that the guy who works in your kitchen? No, I used to

02:29:20.640 work with him at my first sushi restaurant. What's up, Francisco? No way. Yeah. No. Yeah. He's my

02:29:27.500 coworker from when I was 17. He's the homie. Yeah. He's the homie. He worked at Wabi Sabi together.

02:29:32.180 Sweet. What's up? That's what I'm talking about. Shout out to Francisco.

02:29:36.280 Francisco. Thank you for the $5 super chat. Really appreciate the support. Thank you for

02:29:42.120 watching, man. Appreciate it. Um, let's see here. Mike didn't realize, uh, what Mike Davis,

02:29:49.900 $10 again, didn't, didn't realize 10 bucks was a sum. I don't know what he means by that.

02:29:57.700 Their sugar daddies must be broke. Wait, what?

02:30:00.900 Thank you for the $10. Oh, he was the guy who was the hate. No, I know. I, I remember. I think he wants

02:30:06.560 you guys, he, I think he wants you guys to talk shit to him. Is that a kink or what? Is that a what?

02:30:12.940 Is that a kink? Uh, but Mike Davis, I don't, I don't know if you're just, uh, you're just, uh,

02:30:19.640 you know, kind of taking the piss as, as a supporter, but, uh, thank you for the $10 soup chat. Uh,

02:30:25.980 I, I think, uh, you might be a troll, but okay. There it goes. $10. Hype heads, $5. Thank you for

02:30:34.800 the $5 super chat. Hype heads, much appreciated consensus. I'm on, I'm out on bail on house arrest

02:30:40.600 for things I've drunkenly did to what Jesus, would you give someone a chance known, um, give someone

02:30:46.860 a chance known criminal history. Um, no, no, no. If I know you did something to a woman while drunk,

02:30:53.640 how do I expect you to not do the same thing to me? Yeah. Let's just move. Let's just move on

02:30:58.160 from, from that one. Yeah. Fucking hype head 30 is the new 20. Am I right? Jackson Flaxon. Thank you

02:31:04.460 for the $2 super chat. Much appreciated. And our homie again with the $50 I keep missing. Has,

02:31:11.140 have you guys been reading the chat? Has anyone put what the, no, is it South Africa, South African

02:31:17.300 Brian? Bro, it's Mike Davis. Hey, if you want to just, if you want to just keep roasting

02:31:23.400 us, keep it going, Mike. Um, relationship with much older men equals much more love and loyalty

02:31:29.920 and commitment. Abbo, Salomein, Sar, is it South African? Saudi Arabian, Saudi Arabian? I mean,

02:31:39.880 I think it's the Saudi Arabian currency. I think, um, I agree with you, dude.

02:31:47.040 I think, I mean, maybe we'll put it to the panel. So of the men that you guys meet, date,

02:31:54.640 whatever, like a lot of you are in college, right? I think all of you are in college, right?

02:31:59.120 Um, would you say that most like young guys, they just want to hook up. They, they're not

02:32:02.900 really looking for anything serious. I can't give a confident answer on that. Yeah. Cause

02:32:09.560 my boyfriend's young and that kind of changed it. And I've also met older men who are like

02:32:15.100 just, that's fair. Not mature at all. That's fair. And okay. Mike Davis coming in combined

02:32:22.640 97 IQ in the room. All right. Mike, my Venmo is at Gabby Kalin and you can talk to me all

02:32:29.020 you want. Yeah. She, Mike Davis, uh, before the show, Gabby came up to me and she was like,

02:32:38.060 I have a degradation kink. So if you Venmo, if, if you Venmo her, if you, what, what did

02:32:45.200 you say? Cash app? Venmo. Venmo. Venmo. If you Venmo. Yeah. She, uh, she encourages it. She,

02:32:52.560 it's invited. All right, guys. Um, I'm pretty sure that's, uh, that's it for the super chats

02:32:58.400 here. Um, let's see. Um, do I want to shout out the Twitch? Um, Eric, can you, before switching

02:33:08.920 over to the window tab, can you look, can you switch it to the Twitch? No, what's so attractive

02:33:17.800 not, not, not Andrew Tate. And then I think we got another super chat that just came in

02:33:23.580 is two inches. Two dollar from George. Motion of the ocean. Motion of the ocean. That's all

02:33:30.580 we got to say. I like the, I like the, uh, what's it called? The, uh, consistency there

02:33:37.040 with the $2. Uh, were you able to pull up Twitch there, Eric? Are you on the Twitch tab? Oh,

02:33:45.260 perfect. Thank you. Uh, let's see. We got, got a couple. Okay. J card with the bits or

02:33:55.140 the cheers. Thank you, man. D zoom. Can't see. Hold on. Uh, scroll back up, scroll back

02:34:01.760 up. Uh, smoke toe. Thank you for the follow pants. Thank you for the follow. By the way,

02:34:06.380 guys, we are live. I should, I think I forgot to mention this. We are simultaneously streaming

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02:34:28.020 for free. It supports us. It sends us a couple of dollars. So, uh, yeah, follow us on Twitch

02:34:33.080 sub to us on Twitch. Oh, don't move that. Oh, I, Oh, okay. Well, fine. Whatever. Um, maybe

02:34:38.540 hit control Z put it back. Well, just by the way, guys, calamity, Chris, he's been incapacitated.

02:34:47.780 So Eric, our very, uh, friendly Eric was, uh, helping us out today. Um, anyways, uh, put

02:34:54.520 it back to, uh, the full screen there, Eric. So I gotta gather my thoughts here. Um, oh,

02:35:05.440 that's too loud. Fuck it. Whatever. Uh, so we're going to wrap up. Thank you for

02:35:08.360 tuning in tonight. You could have been doing anything else, but you're here with

02:35:12.380 me. I appreciate that. We'll be live again, I believe Sunday at 5 PM and then

02:35:17.940 we'll be doing the, that's for the interview show. And then we will be live

02:35:21.320 again with the dating talk show Tuesday and Thursday of next week, 7 PM. Thank

02:35:26.500 you to the panel. Much appreciated. Thank you guys for coming and we will see you

02:35:32.180 next time. Thank you. Thank you. Bye.

02:35:36.200 Yeah.

Whatever Podcast - January 29, 2023

Dating Talk #5

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