Dating Talk #51
Episode Stats
Length
3 hours and 42 minutes
Words per Minute
185.36952
Hate Speech Sentences
188
Summary
In this episode of Whatever Dating Talk, Brian and Kiki are joined by TikTok's very own Chloe to talk about her recent viral video on TikTok and TikTok. They also talk about the TikTok Creator Fund suspension, and they introduce themselves to the world.
Transcript
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La donna è mobile, qual piuma il vento, muta d'accento e di pensiero.
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Sempre un'amabile, legge addroviso, impianto in riso e menzognero.
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La donna è mobile, qual piuma il vento, muta d'accento e di pensiero.
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La donna è mobile, qual piuma il vento, muta d'accento e di pensiero.
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Welcome to the Whatever Dating Talk podcast, coming to you live from Santa Barbara, California,
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Before the show begins, this podcast is viewer supported.
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I make nearly nothing from ad revenue and we just caught a six-month suspension from TikTok,
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All super chats will be displayed in Stream Overlay.
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Can we do a quick fit check before the show really begins?
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Guys, and we're already having technical issues.
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Just drag it over so I can see it in this monitor.
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So, all super chats will be displayed in stream overlay.
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We wanted to bump the TTS just a little bit just so that we can –
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I totally love it when you guys send through TTSs,
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but we want to just increase the flow of the show a little bit more,
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But, yeah, guys, thank you to all our regular super chatters, by the way.
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Especially appreciate the major support recently from Zentience,
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Guys, we also have channel memberships, Patreon merch.
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To become a channel member, hit that join button.
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We have six different tiers of support, a ton of perks.
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We'll shout out anyone who joins or gifts memberships.
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You've probably seen her viral clips either on TikTok or YouTube or Instagram.
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Her name's – I don't know if it's a stage name, but Chloe Roma.
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You've probably seen her, but, Chloe, thank you for all the support.
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Twitch – sorry, not being able to pull it up threw me off.
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We also have a link for that in the description.
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Drop us a follow and a prime sub if you have one.
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And any girls who want to be on the show, DM at whatever on Instagram.
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If you're in Santa Barbara, I'm looking for a talent booker and a co-host.
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Anyways, without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves while
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So, please tell us your name, age, and occupation.
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My name is Tyler Sharley, and I am an actor and a model.
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I am contracted with the government right now, but I am a travel nurse for now.
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I'm trying to join the military as the first amputee.
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I've been working on it for about a year and a half, and all military born and raised.
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And are you comfortable sharing where you are a nurse at?
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She's a nurse in the prison, so we'll talk about the-
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I'm a digital marketer and a YouTube personality.
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Guys, everyone's Instagrams are in the description.
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We're going to go around the table once more here.
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So, please tell us your current relationship status and your longest relationship.
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My current relationship status is very much single, and my longest relationship was four
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And can we please let John, aka MLD, a little loose as well, Brian?
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Ever since we switched it to the British guy, it's been bugging out, so I'll have to-
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Sometimes it stops midway through, so I'll try to do a British accent and do the rest
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And your longest relationship was four months, you said?
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Yeah, and I've only had like three actual boyfriends, like three serious boyfriends
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Three serious boyfriends, but none of them were longer than four months.
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You're like probably one of the prettiest women in Virginia.
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My longest relationship is three and a half years.
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Okay, so you're single, but you're talking to someone.
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Oh, well, we connected on Bumble, actually, like a few months back.
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And then we disconnected and then we reconnected recently, like a couple weeks ago.
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I kind of pulled back because I had some personal things going on and then I couldn't stop thinking about him.
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So I messaged him again and was like, please, please talk to me again.
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He was nice and responded and we talked about it.
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We had some really good dates and then I just really did have a lot going on with my family.
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And we got evacuated because of the flooding and everything.
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And then I was considering just ending it at that, but then I couldn't stop thinking about him.
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So I feel like if you can't get someone out of your head, you should do something about it.
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The longest relationship I was in was six years.
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It was like not to get dark, but it like, it was just a bad situation.
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And so I moved home with my family and then started working right away and dated a guy
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And then, um, got kind of, it, it started to get a little mundane and I realized I needed
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to step back to reevaluate my own career and my priorities, which is why I moved down
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And we're still kind of figuring out what to do.
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So new boyfriend, but wait, cause you just moved here to Santa Barbara and does he live
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And that's where you were previously as a travel nurse, correct?
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And don't date travel nurses gentlemen, but go ahead.
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I mean, I wouldn't date someone just to like be with Cheeks, super chatted $69 and 69 cents
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panel, except MLD define a high value man and a high value woman.
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MLD can then go ham after they finished their responses.
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Thank you so much for the, uh, $69 and 69 cents.
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Uh, we will come back to that once we get everyone done with their introductions.
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Yeah, because we're still trying to figure out if we want to be together, but I feel like
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in order to figure that out, I need to live a little bit of life first.
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So, and when you say live, when you say live a bit of life first, do you mean with other
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Like more focusing on my career, but I'm looking.
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Cause you, you're like, you're on dating apps, right?
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Like, so you're kind of out there mingling, mingling.
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John, your, uh, current relationship status, longest relationship.
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And, um, my longest relationship was four, four and a half years.
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How much does someone have to, uh, soup chat to get some, a phrase in Japanese?
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None of you have an official boyfriend, let's say.
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How long have you been seeing these new, new guys, let's say?
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Well, you said a couple months, and then it was gone on.
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Well, we went on three dates, and then, um, I would say our second, like, our reconnected
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first date, I guess, would be tonight after this, so.
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Like, we've been friends for a while, and then as of recent, like, since November, what
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So, who kind of, you were just friends, though, and then it became more.
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So, the whole time you were friends, did he friend zone you, and you were always interested
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I was just, like, very strictly against dating.
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Despite the fact that you guys are currently seeing guys, you're not official, so to speak,
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So, for me, I actually had dating apps for a while.
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And I've been not exclusive with anybody since my breakup in August because it was a really
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So, I was, like, I'm going to take a bit to just focus on me and have fun dating.
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And I was really honest about anybody that I did go on a date with that it's, like, I'm
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not looking for a serious relationship right now.
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But then, recently, I just noticed that talking to people on dating apps and getting messages
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So, I deleted them two days ago, three days ago.
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So, I can just focus on the person that I am talking to and my career.
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No, I think when girls, typically, they date, like, one guy at a time, it's better for them
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It kind of, like, you know, scrambles them a little bit.
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Something that's interesting about that is actually, so, I've been in therapy.
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Um, and my therapist, because I have such an attachment issue with, like, you know, I
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And my therapist actually recommended to do the opposite, which is why I did it for a
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I kind of forced myself to try to learn that not to get that serious that fast in my brain,
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It's not for everyone, but it did help me with, like, getting too attached mentally to
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I actually, I feel like I have, like, a few people that I'll text here and there and,
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Um, through, like, mutual friends and, like, going out, which I know, I already know they,
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like, I don't know if that's, like, a bad thing.
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Yeah, like, I do, like, a lot of, like, Twitch things or, like, hanging out with, like, people
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and doing, like, photo shoots and stuff like that.
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So, like, I meet people through that, you know?
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I've been sick for a week, so, like, I haven't been streaming, but getting back into it on Thursday.
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Did you say that you do, when you introduce yourself, your occupation, you do OnlyFans,
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So, I kind of just started getting into, like, more, like, corn?
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So, I just recently will be posting this pretty soon, but girl-on-girl content is what I'm
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This would be a good time to mention the whatever OnlyFans.
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We actually have it, but I've been trying to convince Kiki over there to take some tasteful
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It was, like, we were, like, looking at each other, and I'm like, you trying to...
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I mean, what's the, like, incestuous stuff is very popular on...
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So, and how long have you been doing OnlyFans for?
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So, I would say I've been the most successful for, like, a year, I would say.
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But I just kind of started recently posting, like, nude stuff in this past September.
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So, before that, it was just, like, lingerie, like, extra stuff, like, whatever, if you
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I have someone that kind of helps me out and, like, suggest, make suggestions on, like,
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But, like, I have people that send me, they're like, you should recreate this.
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Do you have a background in digital marketing, or how'd you get good at this?
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I literally, I've been, I've had Instagram since.
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I feel like I kind of got posted on, like, Old Row and, like, places like that.
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And when I was in college, and so that kind of, like, jump-started, like, my followers
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And I was like, oh, I can actually do something with this.
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And so then I got into, like, Twitch, which prompted me.
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Like, I was a project manager before any of this.
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Like, was, literally had a big girl job, like, sitting at a desk.
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How much do you make, if you're comfortable sharing, how much would you say you make per
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Like, it really depends on the content that I put out that month.
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Because I do, sometimes I do, like, pay-per-view.
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Like, if it's a video or something, it's definitely pay-per-view.
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But I would say, like, around the range of, like, $30,000 or $40,000.
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A couple of girls are reconsidering their professions.
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If you guys want to get into it, and you guys are like, girls, let me know.
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And then, Sydney, not about your OnlyFans, but not that you have one.
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I got out of a, like, four-month situationship early December.
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So we stayed, like, following each other on Instagram.
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And then he was, like, doing a thing at the beach.
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If you can pull up the images on the other monitor for us.
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Because, like, if I'm not ready to date right now, then going through those just for, like,
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an ego boost or just to see what's out there is, like, a waste.
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Because I'm not, like, actually interested, right?
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Maybe I'll go back to it when I'm actually ready.
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Something I learned way later than I should have.
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There are, like, a couple of situations, I guess.
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But I think the one that really made me find out is back when I was living in New York,
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I was dating, like, four people at the same time.
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And from the beginning, I was kind of, like, hey, I'm, like, not that interested.
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But, like, you know, we'll hang out or whatever.
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But just, like, just, like, you know, just so you know, like, don't catch feelings.
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And they said, yeah, like, of course, I got you.
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And then a little while passed and they got super pissed at me.
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Because I was with someone else in front of them.
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And then, you know, I found out that your actions have consequences.
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And ever since then, I've been more reserved, I guess, in my dating and just, like, doing more of the one-at-a-time thing.
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Can I have you tilt the microphone up slightly?
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Well, it took a couple years for us to be friends again.
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Like, me and this close friend, we were homies.
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But he was upset to learn that you were seeing other people?
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But, so, you said the consequence was it took a while to.
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The consequence of dating him was that you lost your friendship for.
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The consequence of believing him when he said, yeah, of course, I got you.
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I was saying, hey, like, this is fun, but I'm not, like, interested in you that way.
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And then I found out, like, a little bit later, you know, he got upset about it because I was seeing other people, too.
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And I was, like, wait, I thought we were on the same page.
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And then there was, like, a whole, you know, and then we weren't friends after that.
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Were there any consequences of dating four people at the same time, though, from that?
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And were you, like, sleeping with all four of them at the same time?
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I didn't tell them, like, hey, I'm seeing you today, but Tony tomorrow and Brian on Wednesday.
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So, but you weren't telling them, hey, I'm seeing a guy tomorrow, but did you ever tell
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Um, I don't think it ever got serious enough where they wondered or, like, it became an issue,
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So, and at any other point in time, had you ever dated multiple people at the same time?
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You start telling the same stories, and then you start forgetting who you told what to.
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Yeah, it just, and then you're like, oh, I saw you last Tuesday, you didn't see him last
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Okay, I want to go, I want to go around the table on this.
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Um, if all of you can answer this, so, what is the most amount of people that you've seen
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Um, I feel like, I feel like consistently, like, hanging out with, like, multiple people,
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like, multiple times, I would say maybe, like, two at a time.
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Like, I wasn't, I haven't, I don't date, like, people, like, a lot of people at once.
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Like, if I'm hanging out with one person, I'm just strictly, like, on them.
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But then if I start getting bored, I'm like, meh, go to somebody else.
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Like, I, like I mentioned earlier, I did have a time where I was going on a lot of first
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dates, and I didn't feel that spark, so I went on a lot of first dates and just didn't
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But when I care about somebody enough to want to continue, like, go on a second and third
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one, then that's the only person I'm interested in seeing.
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No, they do, like, yeah, I mean, primarily my whole life has always been one person at
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But I will say it's the same with, it's like that gray area when you're trying to transition
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and you're trying to, like, kind of feel out what you even like.
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Yeah, but then I feel like it's a, it's a, almost a disservice to even be looking when
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that other person has, is, like, all for it, you know?
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Like, it's just a really awkward, and I'm so hesitant.
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And, like, obviously, after what happened, like, I think there's a reason for that.
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You look, it's the best tissue I've seen all day.
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I noticed how these girls are so nice today, but they're also really very pretty.
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I have a theory that the prettier a girl is, the nicer she is.
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I feel like, also, maybe personality makes someone prettier.
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Like, if someone's nice, it can make someone...
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...someone, like, more pretty or, like, more attractive.
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Like, if I meet a guy and he's, like, not someone that I would, like, look twice at,
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kind of, like, looks-wise, and I get to know their personality, I'm like, you're really
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I just wanted to wrap up on the social media or the dating app thing real quick.
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It's probably even more, because maybe it caps at 5,250 pending matches.
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I feel like that number goes up, like, artificially, and it...
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I mean, I think it stays, like, the location stays on, so it's probably from, like, everywhere
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Yeah, I also think they want you to click it and, like, pay to see who liked you, and
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Guys, I will read and answer Super Chats $20 and up, and 69 and up triggers TTS.
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I'm flying the Asian girl to Romania for a conjugal visit.
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There's two Asian women at the table, so I'm not sure which one he's...
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Andrew Tate wants to fly you to Romania for a conjugal.
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I'll have to see the terms and conditions, actually, in fine print.
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John would do well in Los Angeles just being some rich gay dude's boy toy?
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I'm beyond excited to be here along with our MRA community.
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I'm about to drop 1K on this stream, so I'm very excited.
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Yeah, like I said, guys, she's got a great channel.
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We will be trying to get her on the show one day, and that would be quite the auspicious
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Roma Army, appreciate this channel's hard work.
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It's not easy calling out the mainstream narrative.
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And she did this all before the stream even started, so, Chloe, thank you.
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I think that might have attempted to come through as a TTS.
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All right, a little quick fit check if you guys want to stand up right quick.
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They want to see your outfits, you know, if it's Prada, Gucci, Louis Vuitton, you know.
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Yeah, let's do a little, if everyone wants to do a little stand.
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Maybe a little, I think we need a little spin, perhaps.
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The leggings are from Social Tourists, and I'm obsessed with them.
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Straight velvet boots, because I didn't think I'd be showing you everything.
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And we got to talk about, and the, what's it called?
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And then how that, you know, has potentially impacted dating.
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It's predicted by 20, 30, 50% of women will be single, childless.
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What's one thing man slash woman can improve on to attract the mate they want?
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Number one thing a man or woman can improve to attract the mate they want?
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Themselves to be the person that they want to be because you have all these ideas about
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your partner and who you want them to be, but when you imagine that person and who that person
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Because if you're not, then you've got to waste to go, right?
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Here we have, what's one thing man slash woman can improve?
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Beat in cheeks, super chatted $69 and 69 cents.
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Jesus Christo, I regret the thick check, except the nurse, looking great.
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I am going back to Colombia for my three wives with the thick.
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FYI, no, I am not religious to answer from the other night.
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Let's continue on with the, so, one thing man, woman, can improve on to attract the mate
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I would say being secure within yourself, at least in my opinion, because the best relationships
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are when both people in it are very secure with who they are personally.
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I mean, biologically speaking, you could just find a donor and find the mate that you
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want for a kid, but I guess emotionally speaking, 100%.
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Also, if you're not looking, a lot of people put pressure on it, put out a personality that's
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obviously not who they are, and then the other person perceives that, later on in life,
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Are you responding to the single and childless bit?
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I just feel like, I mean, when they say, like, they're relating it back to the biological
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Because, I mean, statistically, you lose your eggs, like, when you hit 30.
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So, I mean, if you're trying to hit that standpoint, just get a donor.
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As far as the biological thing goes, I mean, this is 2023.
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Women are not having kids like they used to anymore.
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But as far as attracting the mate you want, I think it's really important to just get really
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just down to the point of, like, what you're looking for.
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Or, I think a lot of dating dances around the issues in your life and the baggage that
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And if people don't address those issues, then that's a waste of time.
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And then you're from square one all over again.
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So, yeah, being really confident in yourself, first and foremost.
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But then, you also need to know how to talk about the deep shit.
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Can I have you all just scoot that way just a bit so we don't have you being cut off in
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I know after the fit check, we kind of got our positions a little mixed up.
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One thing man, woman can improve to attract the mate they want?
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Like, just knowing who you are and what you want.
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Because a lot of people don't stop to think about what they want in life.
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They're blinding themselves with Netflix or whatever cheap dopamine hit there is out there.
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And, you know, I think when you stop and think about who you are, what you want to do
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with your life, it gives you clarity to be like, okay, this girl, she's hot, but she
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also goes drinking, like, every night of the week.
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So, like, I don't want that for a long-term relationship.
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So, I think a lot of people will just, I don't know, to be honest with you, dudes in America
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Like, women just by default think I'm a fucking samper thirst.
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Like, if I'm just nice to a girl, she's like, yeah, you better be, you know.
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So, I've been going to Miami and going to Dallas and seeing different things.
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But good girls get scooped up off this market quickly.
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Like, you know, good girls don't stay single for long.
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It doesn't mean that you're a bad person or anything.
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It means that, like, women with high relationship value get scooped up quickly.
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No, and it's going to take a special guy to date you because you're an extremely high-income earner.
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And you're, like, not, you know, like, mainstream oriented.
00:45:19.600
It's like, we got to know what we're getting into from the get-go.
00:45:22.780
Because, like, sometimes girls will lie to you at the beginning of the relationship.
00:45:26.180
And then you find out later, you're like, you fucking bitch.
00:45:33.720
And, like, then, like, you know, some kind of resentment builds up.
00:45:40.560
And she was like, yeah, I kind of had, like, this hoe thing.
00:45:45.140
And she was just very open about it on the first date.
00:45:55.220
So now when I interact with her and we, you know, link up and hang out or whatever, I see her.
00:46:00.200
And I'm just like, yeah, the girl is just kind of enjoying herself right now.
00:46:14.200
And I think if more people were just, like, secure themselves.
00:46:16.800
If they're more secure than themselves, they can be more honest.
00:46:22.860
Because I've done, like, the man-hoeing thing and everything.
00:46:27.540
Like, if I see, if a girl's, like, doing her thing and, like, you know, in her hoe phase or whatever, that's fine.
00:46:33.280
Like, I just, like, have a repulsion to it at this point in my life.
00:46:37.900
I'm just looking to, you know, I think guys are best.
00:46:41.160
And I think long-term, people are better in relationships than they are outside of them, in my opinion.
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Roma Army, thank you for the $28 Canadian dollars.
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I really appreciate all the support tonight, Chloe.
00:47:11.660
Define a high-value man and a high-value woman.
00:47:21.440
I feel like it's situational between, like, what you personally deem as a high-value, like, characteristic within a person.
00:47:30.100
So, like, for me, I would say a high-value man or woman is someone that is, like, understanding, they're patient, they're good at communicating, they're direct, they know how to, like, talk about their feelings, they're in tune with their emotions.
00:47:49.520
And, like, I would say that that's, like, there's just so many different things that kind of go into it.
00:47:53.860
Like, I wouldn't be able to just, like, be like, oh, that guy's a high-value man.
00:47:57.120
Like, I have to get to know them and stuff like that.
00:47:58.780
And for me, also, it's someone that has a good relationship with their family.
00:48:02.080
Like, it just really is very situational, I would say.
00:48:05.580
And, like, high-value woman, I think it's the same thing.
00:48:07.780
It's, like, whatever you are looking for, what you deem as high-value.
00:48:13.060
I just think that someone that, like, knows who they are and they're confident and, like, their morals are there, that's a high-value person.
00:48:24.140
I think it depends per person because everyone's values are different.
00:48:27.100
I also think it can be gamified if you write a list down of every attribute that you value and then you assign a score from high to low.
00:48:35.520
Then, you know, according to your own standards, you can rate someone higher value versus lower value.
00:48:49.260
And at the end of the day, though, it does also come down to chemistry.
00:48:55.040
I agree that it really does depend on who because I've heard from different friends and people that they value different things more than maybe others.
00:49:03.440
But for me personally, I would say definitely someone good at communication.
00:49:13.440
That's your partner that you're trying to spend your life with.
00:49:22.120
Somebody that knows what they want in life has a trajectory that they're going for.
00:49:27.780
And for me, wants a family someday is really important to me.
00:49:42.420
No, that's why I want one, kind of, because I only have, like, my one brother, and then
00:49:46.920
I have another older one that I don't really know because he's a half-brother.
00:50:02.980
Contextual about where I am in life, but essentially the same about morals, goals, whether or not
00:50:11.600
they've coped with their own past, how, like, mentally mature they are.
00:50:15.160
There's so many different things that I could list off.
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I have nothing to add except maybe it sounds so simple, but besides emotional intelligence,
00:50:30.600
just you really do have to like the same things because you're going to gravitate towards those
00:50:37.560
And if your significant other says they like it, but then actually doesn't do it, then
00:50:47.920
And then I think he wanted your take on what makes a high-value man or a high-value woman.
00:51:05.500
You got to have your muscles right, which is don't be fat basically because it's just
00:51:13.900
Just make sure you get to understand which girls are going to be good for you, which
00:51:18.400
And then hold frame, which is basically, you know, having self-esteem, having boundaries,
00:51:25.200
And you enforce those boundaries by just backing out situations that don't align with your
00:51:34.080
I like women who are modest, demure, you know, like reserved.
00:51:38.940
Like, for me personally, I'm extrovert, so I like girls that are introverted.
00:51:43.520
I like girls that like to stay at home and like watch Home Alone 2 on Christmas and bake
00:51:53.140
If they don't watch Home Alone 2, it's going to be a problem.
00:52:01.200
Christmas grits sitting around the house during the holidays.
00:52:10.880
Men are fleeing the West in droves to seek love internationally before Brian or MLD tell
00:52:16.200
I'd like to hear the panel's opinion on why they think so many Western men are exiting
00:52:24.900
If you guys have an opinion on that, you're welcome to answer.
00:52:27.200
Frankly, though, I think women don't really care.
00:52:30.440
Like, they don't care that men are leaving, but go ahead.
00:52:32.780
I mean, I understand that, though, because when I was living in my hometown, I had lived
00:52:38.700
there for so long, and I literally feel like I knew everybody, and I was like, I don't want
00:52:42.660
anyone that's, like, around here, because, number one, I don't want to live here.
00:52:46.060
So, like, if someone is, like, wants to move out and, like, doesn't want to be tied down
00:52:50.580
locally, then why would they look for love, like, locally or look for someone that is,
00:52:56.100
But, I mean, I don't even know where I'm going with this.
00:53:01.180
Let me maybe frame it from also the point of view of a lot of men are dissatisfied with
00:53:06.100
Western women, and they want to go to either, for example, South America or Asia.
00:53:16.720
Like, honestly, like, weeding through the people.
00:53:27.300
Like, sure, you want to go do something, be somewhere exotic, because change is good
00:53:33.240
I feel like it's, like, grass is always greener on the other side mentality, personally.
00:53:44.400
Well, a lot of my friends are also very red pill, and they.
00:53:58.260
Japan, specifically, and just the traditions in which the women are idolized, are not idolized,
00:54:05.780
The traditional, like, you know, submissive, subservient.
00:54:08.940
And that's, that's totally fine, but I think the reason is because Western women, at least
00:54:15.440
myself, like, that's not what I'm going to be, and, you know, a lot of times when I'm
00:54:20.880
dating someone, they have a hard time wrapping, you know, their mind around the fact that I'm
00:54:28.120
I have more money or, like, more control, more power.
00:54:33.040
Really quick, just how much do you earn, if you don't mind sharing?
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And you, remind me what you do again, because I had to get up.
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I have a bachelor's in nursing and a bachelor's in economics.
00:55:10.600
I have friends who, like, went, like, into finance or banking who make double what I make at
00:55:35.800
Oh, you put yourself in a corner because you're young, you're beautiful, and you make a shitload
00:55:40.600
Like, the dating pool you just reduced yourself to is, like, this big.
00:56:03.240
So, you put in, like, what kind of guy will you date?
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Like, I've dated younger dudes before, also, because I like to...
00:56:47.860
If I met someone, and I really liked them, and they were 23, I wouldn't be like...
00:57:10.440
If it's, like, an open relationship type situation.
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John, would you think it assumes infidelity if we click exclude...
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I feel like you gotta click exclude married, because that's gonna be tough.
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Like, one of my ex-boyfriends is shorter than me.
00:57:57.720
I like having someone that cares about, like, their body and stuff like that.
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I, like, I don't want to be taking care of them, like, financially.
00:58:34.700
And let me just say this, because I feel like a lot of people are like, oh, she could
00:58:41.780
If I can find someone that can make me happier than I can make myself, dope.
00:58:47.100
But, like, at the end of the day, I don't give myself stress unless I have, like, intrusive
00:58:52.140
But, like, I am so happy being by myself that, like, until I find someone that doesn't
00:58:57.940
bring me stress, doesn't bring me anxiety, doesn't bring me judgment, nothing like that,
00:59:04.260
Like, I actually, like, will be that old aunt that's, like, the fun aunt is, like, the
00:59:09.320
Like, I genuinely love that, because I have a lot of people that care about me in my
00:59:14.200
If you never got married and didn't have kids, you'd be okay?
00:59:41.280
Let's try to move through this quick, guys, so if you can give me quick answers, age range.
00:59:56.620
I have in the past, but if we're saying for, like...
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Because of the kids, or just you prefer dating white men?
01:01:09.880
Yeah, because I like to, you know, make healthy food with a partner and go to the gym and stuff.
01:01:46.340
And then I think that thing goes up to max $500,000, no?
01:02:01.600
So what do you need to buy that he has to make $500,000 a year?
01:02:08.860
Like, if I want to go travel somewhere, I don't want to be able to be like, okay, yeah,
01:02:33.680
So primarily, I'm a fitness influencer, so I do a lot of fitness.
01:02:37.460
And then I also do a lot of bikini brand deals.
01:02:40.000
So anything that doesn't get put on Instagram, all goes to LF.
01:02:44.180
So don't anyone expect anything of anything of that sort.
01:02:49.180
People who go on there are like, I was disappointed.
01:02:53.200
It's like how Cardi B, like, she posts all her BTS of her music videos on there.
01:03:00.700
I think we might have a TTS coming up here, so I just want to preempt before we have Hannah
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Sorry, that little comment thing, I have a lot to say about that.
01:03:16.240
No, talking about how merit, like, if you don't want to be married and childless before
01:03:21.840
I've been like this since I was 21 years old, so I've been like this literally since I was
01:03:35.820
I don't know if that TTS has come through, but it's strange.
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If I had two missing legs, I could be as tall as I want.
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I'm sorry, but there's some cat food for you there.
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I thought that you were showing that because it was like irresistible, and I just got that
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The max on there is 500K, but you want a guy who makes more than 500K.
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How much do you make, if you don't mind me asking?
01:05:21.400
It is interesting that I think as a woman's income increases, it does tend to shrink her
01:05:27.180
dating pool, whereas a man's income increases, it increases the size of his dating pool.
01:05:41.440
Yeah, like men have a hard time sometimes being with someone if she's paying for more
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Like MLD says, work on your frame after making the money and muscles.
01:06:08.360
Sorry that for some reason the TTS might have just not come through there on your last
01:06:15.960
So, you were saying it's an ego thing for men to what?
01:06:22.500
To be with a woman who's making a significant amount more than them or, you know.
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So, it's they have an issue dating a woman who makes a lot of money?
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Yeah, and it might not like bug them at first or like it peeks through like in different
01:06:39.880
Like if I'm going to pay for my boyfriend's vacation and they can't pay me back for it,
01:06:44.720
like, you know, it's like you can view it as a favor or like you got to wrap it up like
01:06:51.260
But it hurts the ego because, you know, more traditional men, especially the ones who are
01:06:55.020
going, you know, to Japan or China or wherever, they want to be the ones to feel like they're
01:07:00.620
But I always like to say that there's a lot of ways that you can care for your significant
01:07:06.940
But unfortunately, a lot of times it just feels that way.
01:07:12.260
Where's a hot shot like you going on vacations?
01:07:23.560
To blue haired girl, if you're this old with no successful relationships, can you really
01:07:26.620
call yourself high value or do you think you're the red flag?
01:07:33.400
Like we, I would say, I know I'm definitely the red flag, but like I, let me change my
01:07:40.920
I would say that I do have very high standards, but I also like need to find something
01:07:44.700
that can handle me because I'm not going to change for anybody.
01:07:46.860
Like I love who I am and the people that know me personally, like people on like social
01:07:55.340
In a sense, besides like my Twitch followers and stuff like that.
01:07:59.960
I just think that, um, oh my God, I always lose my train of thought.
01:08:05.100
Um, I don't even know where I was going with that.
01:08:20.900
But, um, I would say, honestly, very good question because call me out, like, please
01:08:30.180
Um, but like I embrace it and I, and I let people know about it before I like see people
01:08:35.980
I'm like, I don't, or not date people, but like, I'm like, I don't date people and I
01:08:45.580
So to bring it back to what you said, you said it was an ego issue for men that don't
01:08:53.100
want to date women who make more and it's mostly a male issue, correct?
01:09:00.000
I do have a response, but I'd wanted to let you finish.
01:09:04.460
Well, I actually think it's, if a woman's a high earner, it's typically an issue on the
01:09:11.420
In terms of not wanting to date a guy who makes less.
01:09:16.360
But you just said that you had it, you want a guy who makes.
01:09:21.080
What's, why, why did the majority of your relationships not work out?
01:09:24.320
Um, well, the first one, we can go through all of them.
01:09:29.500
Well, the first one was in college and it was really passionate.
01:09:37.440
It's more like she's combative, argumentative, masculine, disagreeable, and difficult to deal
01:09:58.440
I know this is not your day-to-day PwC, but there are crazy people out here.
01:10:12.600
I think it's also because I feel like you guys are trying to, like, press us.
01:10:17.260
And, like, you know, I just feel like sometimes if we come in with stronger opinions, it can
01:10:26.500
I just want to hear because you're so open and honest.
01:10:30.560
I think my last relationship ended because he wasn't, his career wasn't particularly
01:10:51.200
I wasn't, like, super sure, but a childhood friend of mine was like, oh, yeah, like, he's
01:10:56.980
a really great guy, and he is a really great guy.
01:10:59.820
But it kind of ended up with the, like, I felt like walking a fine line between being
01:11:17.700
To me, it does matter about motivation of the other person.
01:11:20.700
It's not, like, the money, yeah, like, obviously you should be able to make some good money
01:11:25.700
for yourself, but if you're not motivated, you can be a hard worker and make 60K, and I'd
01:11:33.300
But you need to show that you're a hard worker.
01:11:45.240
But the amount, okay, maybe 60K, it'd be great if you could make a little more.
01:11:48.760
But, like, if you are driven, I think that's the most important, regardless of the actual
01:11:56.100
And for context, like, this ex that I'm talking about has access to a trust fund, too.
01:12:02.180
So they weren't not without money, necessarily.
01:12:09.560
That's why you didn't like him, though, because he's a trust fund kid.
01:12:18.120
He just didn't have follow through, which, like, you know.
01:12:25.180
The follow through is the biggest part of the drive.
01:12:28.080
It's that last, like, 10% where you have to really dig in to, like, get yourself over
01:12:32.760
Eric, can you, did this not come through as a TTS?
01:12:39.000
I don't, the other ones are coming through as TTS.
01:12:48.980
To Blue Ash, a shared, a shared girl, if you're not willing to change how you are, but how
01:12:56.220
you are can't land you a man, then why should a man put up with your toxic behavior?
01:13:07.500
I'm wondering if the reason it's not coming up as TTS is because of the Canadian, the
01:13:20.580
So maybe that's why the TTS isn't coming through.
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It must be converting Canadian to USD, and it's not reaching the trigger for the TTS.
01:13:39.900
I think it would be, no, you did 69 USD to Canadian.
01:13:51.920
Well, Eric, you put in 91 Canadian, and then that was the equivalent.
01:14:20.380
Most divorces initiated are by women who earn equally or more than her man.
01:14:25.260
As women feel superior to their men, they are disrespectful.
01:14:28.620
Men will smash you, but you will be a leftover woman.
01:14:43.600
Leftover woman, like, were food to be leftovers.
01:14:50.920
I feel like there might be other issues, such as, like, they're not thinking about the
01:14:55.100
fact that possibly the men that are making less, and I'm not saying it's all cases, but
01:15:00.520
maybe the men that are making less are treating the women in the relationship poorly because
01:15:05.860
they feel threatened and they're being disrespectful.
01:15:09.460
Like, you don't, it's a big assumption to make that it's only the women that caused the
01:15:14.460
end when maybe the women divorced the man because the man was treating them wrong.
01:15:21.380
I've had to leave men because they weren't treating me right.
01:15:25.640
It's because, you know, you deserve respect, so maybe.
01:15:28.640
I think a lot of men get insecure when the woman is.
01:15:42.780
Would you guys like to respond to Devon Jackson?
01:15:57.160
Here, I guess this is why I think it's more so like a woman's issue.
01:16:03.200
Roman's Man Cave highlights super chatted $139 Canadian dollars and 99 cents.
01:16:09.840
Here's a bigger one, but I want my questions answered.
01:16:18.080
Well, first of all, let me just say that I love your questions.
01:16:21.280
Number one, like it's get it, like literally make me talk about it.
01:16:26.160
So I would say that like, I'm, I wouldn't say that I'm toxic though.
01:16:31.840
Like that assumption is very, like when I am into someone, I am like straight into them.
01:16:49.000
I have no idea, but like, I'm aware of like my red flags and stuff like that.
01:16:52.500
And it's honestly like the reason, a lot of the reason why I haven't, Oh God, what am
01:16:59.780
Like it was like about, you said you were self-aware about being, is it this one?
01:17:04.200
Are you self-aware of your, then why should a man, I don't think that a man should put
01:17:09.380
That was, that's the whole point though, is what I was saying earlier is that like, I
01:17:13.020
want to find someone that can put up like with me who I am now.
01:17:21.120
And like, there is, there's so many people in this world that I know that there are people
01:17:25.840
It just wasn't the right time or the right place, you know?
01:17:36.140
Do you feel like there needs to be compromise in a relationship?
01:17:39.840
And I think that when I can, when I find that one person where I'm like, Oh yes, I will change.
01:17:43.440
Like I'm not changed for you, but like I will make those small changes to make you feel
01:17:47.680
better in a relationship because I love and care about you.
01:17:52.040
So I think it goes back to being self-aware too.
01:17:54.280
Cause a lot of people are very low in self-awareness.
01:17:58.340
It's conscientiousness, stuff like that, you know?
01:18:05.800
So guys, thank you for all the chats coming in there.
01:18:08.540
And I, I, we are going to get through the other ones.
01:18:11.600
It's just, we've had quite a few TTS come through, but I, I will get to all these super
01:18:16.320
I do want to kind of quickly wrap up the, uh, the money thing with it being an ego thing
01:18:26.600
Like if the guy earns less than you that, you know, going on vacation, for example, you
01:18:31.360
would feel like you would maybe have to pay for him.
01:18:33.860
And then maybe, would that be an issue for you?
01:18:39.100
Um, I took my most recent ex on a cruise to Alaska.
01:18:50.140
So why do you think your relationships don't work out?
01:18:54.260
Uh, a variety of reasons, but the most recent one, again, are you a furry?
01:19:05.880
There's one person at this table that could potentially be a furry.
01:19:20.140
But, and they actually found, as far as the divorce rates go, women overwhelmingly do
01:19:27.000
Some of you said, it's, I mean, not really taking a whole bunch of accountability, but
01:19:32.920
saying, oh, that's usually because the men are fucking up somehow.
01:19:45.240
So for the, for the ladies that do want to be in a relationship, why do you want to be
01:19:51.980
What value are you looking to get from being in a relationship?
01:20:03.400
Well, I do want to be in a long-term relationship.
01:20:28.300
I think that having a partner adds a lot to your life as far as having someone to enjoy
01:20:34.880
successes with and cheer for you and cheer for them and cry with if you're going through
01:20:41.560
something, it's really just, it's a hard life to me and it's really helpful to have
01:20:46.120
somebody that you really connect with, like by your side through everything.
01:20:50.400
And I also do want a family and I want to be married before that.
01:20:54.880
And, uh, yeah, so I just am a hopeless romantic at heart.
01:21:08.260
I want to be married, long-term relationship, house, kids, possibly.
01:21:16.500
I want long-term and I want one person for the rest of my life.
01:21:20.380
Like a best friend to fall in love with personally.
01:21:23.800
On the, on the topic of the divorce rates, uh, so 80% of divorces are initiated by women.
01:21:29.700
However, that number jumps to 90% if the woman is, I believe, uh, college educated and the
01:21:38.260
So it seems to me that that would at least not fully explain, but suggest that, at least
01:21:46.160
in my view, that it's more so an issue for the woman.
01:21:49.740
Um, so, but, but with, with your income, even if you did go part time, I suspect you'd still
01:21:59.800
Um, do you think you could be the sole provider?
01:22:05.540
That's actually the family that I was raised in.
01:22:15.240
Would you describe your mom as like a tiger mom?
01:22:25.000
Um, and then he stopped working when I was like in high school.
01:22:31.700
She was, to start off as an accountant and then she just was like a C-suite executive
01:22:42.880
But when we did the thing, you said minimum 200K.
01:22:51.560
Well, I was just being accurate for the statistic, right?
01:22:55.800
Like, I could meet someone and, you know, but just...
01:22:59.420
Just if we're talking about, you know, we want them to make the same amount as we do,
01:23:12.820
But just like knowing my dating history and my preferences.
01:23:25.700
And I think when it comes to the money thing, another thing that tends to be an issue,
01:23:30.580
women, generally speaking, don't spoil men the same way that men spoil women.
01:23:41.260
So, women, generally speaking, don't share their resources with men the same way that
01:23:58.380
I want to know what you're doing with all your money because you don't want kids.
01:24:04.120
No, but also I realize that's before OnlyFans takes out, so it's less than that, by the way.
01:24:12.520
No, I want to know what these ballers are buying with their fucking big salaries.
01:24:39.520
But I'm a huge saver, so I don't have a boyfriend or anything.
01:24:43.280
You don't have like a rich person's vice that you always go and do?
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Like sometimes I'll just go to Louis Vuitton and just buy something.
01:25:06.140
Recently, I've been spending a lot of money skydiving.
01:25:17.220
I play seven sports, but I spent all my money on traveling.
01:25:25.720
So, a few of you were disagreeing with me though on my statement that women don't share
01:25:31.600
their resources with men the same way that men share their resources with women.
01:25:58.880
And if they do pay for it, like if they're one of those men that genuinely, they genuinely
01:26:02.800
are not okay with it and I can respect that, I will get the next one.
01:26:13.540
Like I like when a man pays on the first date because I like chivalry, but I will be
01:26:21.860
If there's going to be a second date, I let him pay.
01:26:39.440
You've established before the check comes, so to speak, that you would like a second
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However, when the check does come, he says, hey, let's split the bill or he asks for two
01:26:49.560
Does that then turn into there is no second date?
01:27:00.900
But so for example, the check comes and they're like, you know, I'll always take out my card
01:27:04.920
just to see, you know, because you like to do the whole like, and then he'll be like,
01:27:11.460
And then it'll be whether I insist or I'll say, I'll get the next one.
01:27:17.140
So you, you take, you take out your card and you offer and he says, okay.
01:27:24.480
And then you split or you end up paying the whole thing.
01:27:30.800
And it depends on their, again, their financial situation or what they make, or if I make a
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lot more than that, or like, just like if the date was my idea or like, if I picked
01:27:39.420
You know, if he picked the restaurant and it ended up being 200 per person and I wasn't
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sure what I was getting myself into, then it'd be a little bit like, you know.
01:27:48.420
It's just like, but if I, you know, it was my idea, like, Hey, let's go to this place
01:27:54.080
Like, and I buy the tickets, like that's totally.
01:27:59.760
Um, I mean, I would say I, the same, like pretty much the same, like, I don't really do
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that in a sense where I'm like, Oh, I'll split it up.
01:28:06.320
I know there's not gonna be a second date, but I actually really liked that because then
01:28:10.520
I don't like, I love to like, if I'm dating someone with my past boyfriends and stuff like
01:28:13.960
that, like I would make sure that we split it each time that we go out or something like
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Like he'll pay for one time that I'll pay for like the next time we go to the movies
01:28:23.840
Cause I don't want someone to feel like I'm just taking and taking and they're not receiving
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And I also don't like feeling like I owe anyone anything hanging over your head.
01:28:35.460
Like even with like first dates and stuff, like, I don't know.
01:28:38.680
I just, I will always like pull out my card and stuff like that, regardless of what my
01:28:47.780
So except for you, it sounded like most of you would be fine splitting the check.
01:29:05.340
So maybe perhaps quite a few of you are outliers on this one, but we've had a lot of women
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on the show and a lot of women will say, if the guy doesn't pay for the first date, there
01:29:20.380
They expect, they expect the guy to pay for the first date.
01:29:24.200
Not all women, certainly not all women, especially, especially here in California, but it's, it's
01:29:29.420
You don't really know as a guy what you're getting.
01:29:34.460
So for you, how much money is too much money for the guy to spend on you in the first
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If it's, if it's over a hundred, I'm going to ask to split it.
01:30:11.680
I, I also purposely kind of pick something not super expensive.
01:30:16.300
If I know that they're intending to pay or anything like that.
01:30:27.900
I feel like all my first dates have been going to the gym.
01:30:39.760
I mean, with like a, with a partner, like someone you've established at least some connection
01:30:47.680
You get to see how they like rack their weights.
01:30:53.200
They're bonded by their love of iron, you know?
01:30:55.380
But I mean, it would seem to me like, you seem like you take your fitness very seriously.
01:30:59.880
So to me, it would seem almost like for most people, you go to the gym to put in work,
01:31:12.600
You seem like you're fed up with meeting shitty guys too.
01:31:16.920
Like I pretty much surrounded myself by like people, quality people that I enjoy.
01:31:28.720
Just to wrap up on the whole ego thing and the money thing.
01:31:34.640
Well, I'm just, I think you guys are, I think you guys are a bit of outliers though.
01:31:39.240
I would say most women who are making as much money as you, I think you said it was mid
01:31:55.220
Most women who are making that much money are going to want a guy who's at least on their
01:32:01.000
Like a woman who's an attorney, a litigation attorney who's making $300,000.
01:32:09.080
She's not going to go date a guy who's working at Chick-fil-A.
01:32:11.500
Whereas a, you know, very successful male attorney, a very successful guy at PWC, he'll date a 19-year-old
01:32:21.360
hottie that works the drive-through lane at Chick-fil-A.
01:32:25.820
But men, generally speaking, it's not a big thing for us.
01:32:35.500
What is your dating strategy to find the guy that you like?
01:32:42.500
You know, do you have, like, a strategy that you're implementing?
01:32:47.440
So, like, previously a lot of it was dating apps because you get to see statistics.
01:32:51.960
You get to see education, what they do, where they're from.
01:32:55.680
Some dating apps have, like, extra, you know, hobbies, whatever.
01:32:58.700
And so it, you know, makes it a little easier to find compatibility in those statistics.
01:33:06.040
But I've also found that it's very hit or miss because a lot of it's chemistry and in-person.
01:33:10.440
And now I try to keep it to people you meet out in the wild, friends of friends, social gatherings,
01:33:17.960
Do you, like, do you have, like, a set, like, every week I'm going to go to XYZ, social events?
01:33:42.700
The amount of dick that's been thrown around in this country, that's a compliment.
01:33:48.160
I see, like, a lot of people assuming women's sex lives.
01:33:55.120
If you want to meet a man of substance, you probably have to move out of LA, though.
01:33:58.800
My friends are all like, yeah, your husband's probably in New York.
01:34:11.360
What's your, I know you said you like white guys.
01:34:37.000
And, like, you know, I can be a little combative or, you know, whatever.
01:34:49.940
No, I noticed girls that are typically a little bit more, you know, like, driven in their day-to-day life.
01:34:55.200
They kind of like to be a little bit more submissive in the bedroom.
01:34:58.540
I've been told I've had, like, big dick energy in the past.
01:35:21.680
And I'll tell you why really quick, and then we'll continue on with the soup chats.
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Do you guys, what do you guys think of it really quick, the term B-D-E?
01:35:37.700
You guys, have you guys used the term in casual conversation?
01:35:41.720
Have you used B-D-E and S-D, small dick energy?
01:35:47.920
Here's my main quarrel with it is if men were using.
01:35:55.260
Before I say that, who here's for body positivity?
01:36:10.440
So, I'd like to propose some new terms for us to use.
01:36:24.780
One of the comments from earlier is that we were left over.
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We haven't talked about how many men we've slept with or not.
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If you overheard a guy saying any of these terms, would you take offense to that?
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We're not calling dicks putrid or gross or saggy.
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A guy who has some sort of desirable characteristics.
01:38:12.240
Whereas, and, whereas if you use small dick energy, what's that often?
01:38:18.080
We've heard it thrown at people typically you dislike.
01:38:21.900
We've heard it about, you know, typically people you dislike or people that have contemptible
01:38:32.780
That doesn't have anything to do with smell, no.
01:38:42.000
So, there are some fantastic men with small penises and there are some awful men with big
01:38:47.700
dicks and, and men are certain, it's certainly something that men are perhaps insecure about.
01:38:55.120
And so it, to me, it seems as if, I mean, we, we, me personally, I don't have an issue with
01:39:02.540
What I do have an issue with is if I were to use any of the terms that I used, for example,
01:39:07.440
loose pussy energy, in a casual conversation, that would not slide.
01:39:12.940
I do think there are a lot of things that, um, men can't get away with.
01:39:24.240
Yeah, I would say it would definitely turn, like, if someone said that in public, like,
01:39:27.100
I don't want to be like, I wouldn't be like, turn my head and be like, what the fuck?
01:39:36.380
PWC didn't like what I said about masculine career women, but she just admitted that she's masculine.
01:39:45.080
Yo, Alvin, thank you for the, uh, 70 lawsuit chat.
01:39:53.420
I agree that that term, big dick energy, can be insulting, for sure.
01:40:01.280
I don't mean insulting the person you're saying it to.
01:40:03.620
I mean insulting for anybody that is insecure about their dick self.
01:40:09.580
Or, like, if someone comes to my Twitch chat and they say something, like, rude, I'm like,
01:40:14.020
And, like, I probably shouldn't say that, like, thinking about that, because I don't,
01:40:18.860
I didn't even think about it in that sense, where if someone said that to me, I'd be like,
01:40:23.220
It was just a metaphor for me for, like, confidence.
01:40:27.220
It's nothing to do with any of, like, the actual penis.
01:40:40.740
I mean, but you say it's just about, like, the energy.
01:40:44.920
But, so, can I just put the word energy at the end of any insult, and that makes it acceptable
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Your man needs to make six figs and you're our ship with a brookie didn't work.
01:41:12.540
A man will work a full job to provide for his family while the wife stays at home.
01:41:28.780
Well, the relationship didn't work not because he didn't have money.
01:41:34.000
But it was more about, like, the ambition and lifestyle and trajectory.
01:41:43.780
Do you, like, exercise and, like, watch your diet and all that?
01:42:00.340
Eric, can you pull up one of the YouTube tabs with Roma's video.
01:42:19.460
Because we have all those other expenses, like nails and shit like that.
01:42:28.220
A guy has to always pay for the date because we have all these other expenses.
01:42:36.900
First of all, ain't nobody out here like, hey, you want to go on a date with me?
01:42:40.700
But those nay-nays, though, you got to get them done.
01:42:43.620
If he is, then why the fuck would you go on a date with him?
01:42:50.640
Women, if a lady wants you to take her out on a date, say, whoa, whoa, whoa, lassie.
01:42:55.800
Not until you pay for my oil change, my gas, and I think I have a little bit of swass and
01:43:00.320
maybe some dick cheese today, so you got to pay for my body wash, too.
01:43:04.620
Women nowadays could not get any more entitled.
01:43:08.460
Some of them, because there's a few good ones left.
01:43:18.160
By the way, that's Chloe Roma, who's been super chatting, so, yeah.
01:43:28.180
It's kind of like, that's not, everybody has expenses.
01:43:33.680
Like, we have nails and stuff, yeah, but men also have to go get their hair done.
01:43:38.620
They also have to go out and, like, get, like, soaps and, like, stuff.
01:43:45.820
Like, that's not a reason why people shouldn't have to pay for the date.
01:43:50.280
You kind of raised your eyebrows at what she said.
01:44:00.720
Well, no, I was thinking about how men have to get their hair cut, like, way more if they
01:44:05.980
Like, they have to get their hair cut so often.
01:44:08.040
And if they have a beard, they got to go get it.
01:44:11.280
I think about men's expenses, it's different than women's.
01:44:13.580
And probably less, especially if you want to choose to get your nails and your eyelashes
01:44:22.040
Like, I don't think that what she was saying, like, not a man wouldn't...
01:44:25.440
Like, I'm not going to go out on a date with you because you didn't do your makeup
01:44:29.920
By the way, guys, that video that we just reacted to, Chloe Roma, Roma Army on YouTube,
01:44:39.200
So, by the way, Chloe, do you speak to Parfrancais?
01:44:43.540
I don't know if you're in the French-speaking part of Canada.
01:44:45.140
But anyways, your reaction to the video we just watched or anything to add?
01:44:53.980
I thought she was spitting facts, to be honest.
01:44:58.080
I liked the perspective because I hadn't really thought about it very much, that topic.
01:45:14.800
I think the expenses, statistically, on paper are completely different.
01:45:22.000
And some are more of a necessity to women than men.
01:45:24.900
Then again, I'm not a man, so I have no idea if y'all have something else that's going on.
01:45:31.960
But when she's like, if I was thinking of TikTok like that, I wouldn't have said, like, oil changes and stuff like that.
01:45:40.160
I definitely would have pinpointed other, I can't even think off the top of my head, but I definitely would have pinpointed other expenses that are more directed towards males.
01:46:01.280
I mean, I know a lot more guys who probably put a lot more work into their cars than maybe I would.
01:46:07.460
And there's expenses like that, that, to each his own.
01:46:14.380
If you have a really expensive hobby, you're going to spend more money on it.
01:46:19.900
You just have to be okay with two different hobbies and sources of income and providing for your own hobby, I guess.
01:46:29.140
Does anyone recall what the, she was, so, Chloe Roma was reacting to a clip.
01:46:33.680
And the clip said that, or the woman said that men should pay on the first date because women have expenses like makeup.
01:46:44.600
And also, though, like, if you think about it, like, I mean, obviously, periods, like, we do spend a lot of money on, like, tampons and stuff like that, for sure.
01:46:52.040
But, like, also, we expect the man to buy the condoms or, like, so there's other things, like, I don't know.
01:46:58.780
Like, I just think that that's not, like, a, something that you can, I don't know.
01:47:06.460
No, I was going to say, I think the point she was making is just, like, a lot of, there's a lot of female entitlement in dating nowadays.
01:47:15.660
But I think there's entitlement from guys, too.
01:47:19.520
Well, these comments are showing a lot of entitlement.
01:47:29.120
To be fair, though, to be fair, and I am thinking about this, is I think about the fact that, like, my dad will go get his haircut and he can get it for, like, done for, like, 20 bucks.
01:47:36.920
And, like, when I go get my hair done, it's, like, 100, 200.
01:47:41.060
Like, it is more expensive, but, like, I don't know.
01:47:47.900
Well, certainly in terms of appearance, I mean, it's hard to totally quantify it, but if we're talking, like, makeup, hair, like, that, cosmetics, generally speaking, yes.
01:48:02.600
But I don't think that that justifies or warrants men having to pay for the first date.
01:48:12.160
One question, Eric, can you put it on me really quick?
01:48:14.260
Is there a slight yellow tint, or is this just our monitor?
01:48:25.260
I'm seeing if, I'm wondering if the white balance is all fucked up.
01:48:37.760
My house back, I shouldn't know you mentioned that.
01:48:44.960
I might try to adjust the white balance a bit, guys.
01:48:52.820
So, do you think that if a woman wears makeup on a date, that that should maybe be a reason
01:49:05.460
Because that's her choice at the end of the day, you know?
01:49:09.720
I would never, I don't know, I love to wear makeup.
01:49:15.440
So, it's like, I spend some money on my makeup, you know?
01:49:19.520
He goes home to his boys, he's like, bro, she was wearing makeup.
01:49:32.900
I think some of these are just like intentionally loaded questions.
01:49:41.660
I also will say, though, there's also this pressure in the world that a lot of females
01:49:50.280
I mean, it goes both ways, but I think girls, then, that's why they feel inside.
01:49:54.740
Like, well, I have to do this so I can look the way they want me to look.
01:49:59.020
When not all men feel that way, I've seen a lot of men be like, oh, I prefer no makeup
01:50:08.860
I'm okay with it, but if I hug you and it starts to go on.
01:50:21.840
Going to looks and just based off of appearance and dating and all that, I will just want to
01:50:26.720
mention, too, it's a little interesting as an amputee in the dating world.
01:50:33.300
You get some people who you're just like, oh, I wonder how good you are in bed.
01:50:38.460
Like, a lot of the questions are, do you take it off?
01:50:42.260
And just, like, they're obsessed with the fact that, and, I mean, amputees is a thing.
01:50:51.340
So, it's, but then the other side is, oh, well, she's an amputee, blah, blah, blah.
01:50:58.360
And I don't ever play the victim of this, ever, and I don't fuck with that.
01:51:04.080
I hate that side and that people actually even think that way, because for me, it's
01:51:10.680
But you see both sides, and it's like there's no happy medium.
01:51:15.880
The best date I've ever been on was a guy who I expect, because I'm asked all the time,
01:51:24.100
especially if I wear a dress or shorts, like, what happened?
01:51:28.420
But the best date I ever was on, he didn't even ask until, like, three or four dates
01:51:41.640
And he goes, yeah, I figured you would tell me when you were ready.
01:52:01.320
And it sucks that you're, especially, like, comments and stuff.
01:52:06.860
But people are so objective with some of that stuff.
01:52:20.380
But I didn't figure out she had an amputee, like, her leg was amputeed.
01:52:30.100
I mean, you know, it was, I don't know, no big deal.
01:52:45.040
Yeah, I just, I just played my, I did what I always did.
01:52:51.380
I love that it's a part of my life, but it definitely gets in a gray area when it comes
01:52:56.160
to sex and objectification, especially in the 21st century.
01:53:02.520
It's just something I've noticed in my dating experience.
01:53:09.980
You mentioned objectification, like, are you saying, like, there's some guys that might
01:53:17.700
Has a guy ever, like, wanted to do something, and tell me if this is an appropriate task,
01:53:24.660
has a guy ever wanted to do a sex act involving the leg?
01:53:36.880
Any funny anecdotes, not sexually, that related to dating and the, you know, the, like.
01:53:46.140
Well, depending how drunk someone gets, like, if I'm at a bar and stuff, I like to make up
01:53:54.440
I have, like, eight circulating stories that I tell depending on how drunk someone is,
01:54:22.640
But it's, like, fiberglass, so it's hard to tell if it's a little shiny, and it's an adjustable
01:54:28.840
high heel, so I can wear this high heel, but it also bends into, like, a, just, like,
01:54:56.400
So I used to drink beers out of it, like, not that.
01:55:02.000
I don't, like, put the beer in, like, I put the bottle in there, like, it's just a party
01:55:14.360
I mean, I'm very, it's very clean, but I still wouldn't trust that.
01:55:19.120
Is anyone down to, like, do a shot of the prosthetic right now?
01:55:47.820
Has a guy ever, have you ever encountered any either rejection or difficulty because of
01:55:54.240
Like, has a guy ever said, I mean, you know, hey, you're great, just, have they overtly
01:56:02.440
turned you down because they said it was an issue?
01:56:05.740
Do you ever, or do you suspect that maybe you were turned down because of the prosthetic?
01:56:18.000
You said that with a Canadian accent, by the way.
01:56:19.700
Sorry, my accents are all over the place because I lived all over the world.
01:56:23.180
Your accent has been colored by your many travels, but.
01:56:28.880
I'm actually Eastern European, so it gets probably from there.
01:56:35.000
It, uh, I feel like they are actually more intimidated and that I, it's not even a disadvantage.
01:56:42.680
It's just, I don't think they know how to approach it sometimes when I grew up in a very
01:56:50.820
Everyone just is upfront about what they think.
01:56:53.260
And I love that, but I'm not going to assert like, here's what happened if you don't ask.
01:57:02.260
So, I think maybe it's a little disadvantage because maybe, and I could be wrong, but no
01:57:12.360
In fact, I think they're more, they don't know what to do with it.
01:57:18.800
And then I start talking and like share my personality and they, they're chill.
01:57:24.100
And you said it was, there was a guy that you saw and it was, and you found it maybe
01:57:28.120
really hot or attractive that he didn't even address it at all.
01:57:30.960
He didn't even bring it up until you brought it up actually.
01:57:37.140
It was endearing actually really endearing because when you get so used to the day to
01:57:42.060
day of like people wanting to know, and that's not a bad thing.
01:57:45.460
I love when people ask, but it's kind of nice when that's not someone's go to or like, that's
01:58:37.000
Ladies, mainly Jen, never stay friends with an ex.
01:58:38.840
That is the worst possible thing you can do and can present problems with your future significant
01:58:51.460
You can be on good terms, but like you still hang out within the ex.
01:59:02.500
She definitely smashed all four within the 48 hour period at some point.
01:59:11.000
Please say you used condoms and or didn't let them bust.
01:59:25.360
Modern women live in the realm of ambiguity and plausible deniability.
01:59:29.760
They demand perfection for men, but they themselves are cracked, chipped, and shattered cubic zirconia.
01:59:51.340
Like, I mean, I think flaws make us who we are.
01:59:54.260
Like, I think that that's, it's a beautiful thing to learn to love the flaws within your partner.
02:00:03.380
Ladies, unless I want your value to decrease, don't listen to Blue.
02:00:13.180
You take an L every time you hook up with someone that's not for LTR.
02:00:26.100
I don't think it should matter, but it definitely does.
02:00:33.380
I like your answer because you don't think it matters, but at least you acknowledge that it does.
02:00:39.060
Would you say maybe women don't care about it so much, but men do?
02:00:49.840
I was just going to say women typically seem to be more accepting of a guy with a high body
02:00:54.080
count, but they don't seem to understand that a lot of guys, the inverse is the opposite.
02:00:59.800
I'm like, you know, typically when we find out a girl has a higher body count, we're kind
02:01:06.320
Uh, it's just kind of like an instinctual male thing.
02:01:10.120
Just kind of like how you wouldn't date a five foot three dude that worked at McDonald's
02:01:15.440
Because, you know, you're successful, you're Miss PwC.
02:01:18.240
It's the same thing for us, just like something about it in our, like, DNA.
02:01:23.820
We're like, we, we, and then don't take this the wrong way, but I'm just going to be very
02:01:34.700
And I think women kind of instinctually know, because they never really tell the honest number
02:01:40.340
I feel like people assume, um, the number of people just, like, that somebody's been with
02:01:51.380
Like, or the way they dress, the way they carry themselves.
02:01:53.860
People assume a lot about numbers, and if somebody is telling the truth and they think
02:01:57.980
it's too low for how attractive they are, they'll be like, cap.
02:02:02.200
So you're saying more attractive women have higher body counts?
02:02:09.400
I think average women have higher body counts than do very beautiful women.
02:02:15.260
Because some of them kind of, like, overcompensate.
02:02:16.960
Because you ever, like, you know, like, you've seen that one girl who just got in trouble
02:02:23.620
There's some white girl that, like, you know, she was getting, like, she had a husband.
02:02:27.680
She was getting, like, ran on, like, by five different dudes.
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But, yeah, but she's so, um, she looks, like, hella average.
02:02:42.420
And I feel like, you know, they're just, like, trying to overcompensate to an extent.
02:02:52.600
Not all women, but a lot of women, too, when they see a man or they know a man has a higher
02:02:56.720
body count, that puts them at a higher level of, they put them higher up on the pedestal.
02:03:02.040
And, too, naturally, like, if you think of a lion, they will mate with all the females.
02:03:08.720
But psychologically, nowadays, it's just a little rough on the females.
02:03:17.300
The ideology of not being able to have a high body count.
02:03:22.500
Yeah, because some women, like, have more of a masculine mentality and don't care.
02:03:27.600
And the fact that people bash on them for this, their own moral mindset, it sucks for them.
02:03:33.100
Because they're like, this is how I feel about me.
02:03:38.040
I feel like a lot of my mindset has come from being screwed over by men.
02:03:41.200
And I've read, like, a lot of books about that.
02:03:43.520
And I feel like all the people bashing me, I'm like, this is the way that, like, a lot of men are.
02:03:51.280
Like, if I want to go fuck the dude down the street, I can go fuck the dude down the street.
02:03:54.940
And you can say whatever you want at the end of the day.
02:04:03.100
I think the guys that are saying that, you know, the body count matters, it matters to them.
02:04:07.840
Yeah, because I think ideally, you know, I don't think any girl's going to, like, describe her ideal man.
02:04:17.580
Like, ideally, we don't want a girl that has, you know, been around like that.
02:04:28.040
That's a good answer if you do the math, right?
02:04:37.360
I mean, for me to, I don't, like, you can do whatever you want, but for me to take you serious.
02:04:49.820
Over 10 for me, it's just like, what are you doing?
02:05:13.560
Yeah, like, I don't know, like, anything, like, once you hit 20, and it's just kind of like, okay, like, you know, 18, your turn age is consigned, right?
02:05:24.240
And then, so, even if you do 20 in, like, seven years, like, it's a lot of people.
02:05:48.540
In addition to body count, men also care about age.
02:05:54.360
That's another weird thing that just is the way the world works, you know?
02:05:59.060
I mean, it's not explainable necessarily, or at least I can't.
02:06:04.420
Well, the chief one is evo psych, and for biological reasons, it comes down to fertility.
02:06:11.420
A man who's 40 doesn't want to date a woman who's 40 because the chance that she's going
02:06:16.300
to be able to conceive and bring the pregnancy to term and have a healthy baby, the chance
02:06:22.500
of birth defects starts increasing dramatically after 35.
02:06:27.100
The chance of miscarriage after 35 is quite high.
02:06:33.480
Do you think it's interesting, or what are your thoughts, I guess, I'm curious, on the
02:06:37.720
difference between when an older woman dates a lot younger guy versus-
02:06:46.860
I think, generally speaking, though, men are more often shamed if a guy who's 30 is dating
02:06:53.680
I think a lot of women want to claim that that's somehow, like, predatory, or even we've
02:06:59.660
had women come on the show and claim it's P-word.
02:07:16.140
I mean, we have a word for women dating younger men.
02:07:19.780
There's a lot of women that date younger men that, I have a list somewhere of examples,
02:07:29.400
They don't, that doesn't typically get much attention, but when you hear a lot of this stuff
02:07:47.660
Like, with men having a preference for younger women?
02:07:52.980
As long as it's not, you're not like 50 looking for 18 year olds, like, that's sketchy.
02:08:05.100
I think if the girl's cool with it, then if that's what she wants too,
02:08:11.220
I think you can also be predatory with it and then not predatory with it.
02:08:15.600
It's very, like, again, it depends on situations.
02:08:21.320
My friend's mom, she was, like, she was making moves on me in high school.
02:08:26.000
I, like, think back on it and I'm like, oh my God.
02:08:28.020
No, I was 18, she was 38, and she, you know, she shot her shot.
02:08:33.100
Women can definitely be, like, that's for sure, yeah.
02:08:35.780
Yeah, I think that's a misconception that it's, like, only older men look for younger girls.
02:08:42.740
She's, like, so you want to go to the WWE event, huh?
02:08:54.320
She was 38, and she's, like, you want to go see Stone Cold Steve Austin?
02:09:02.340
No, you know, it's so funny, so anything, anything, we ended up doing whatever, and
02:09:07.320
then I actually, I actually, so she bought the ticket and I never went, and then that's
02:09:17.720
But also, it's weird because I think that it's more predatory because, did you know her
02:09:23.020
No, I met, well, yeah, I met her technically at the beginning of the senior year when I was
02:09:28.920
See, I thought that was, like, a friend that you've had, like, since you were, like,
02:09:31.520
in, like, middle school, like, I'd be, like, that's weird because she's waiting for you
02:09:53.620
Like, the older I get, the more I realize that my mom really does know.
02:09:56.880
And I'm, like, fuck, why didn't I listen to you?
02:10:01.520
So, we were talking about body count, then we switched to the age gap stuff.
02:10:17.120
Like, let's say a 30-year-old wanting to date a 20-year-old.
02:10:20.220
Just that, not looking at any other details, that in and of itself, do you think that
02:10:31.020
I guess, I suppose anything could be something, but...
02:10:33.700
I think that if you met someone, if you met a woman that was, like, 21 years old, and
02:10:38.380
she's, like, perfect, but you were, like, oh, no, sorry, you're past, like, 20, I think
02:10:46.460
Because that's, like, you're looking for that specific person.
02:10:55.740
I was married at 19 and didn't know what I was doing.
02:11:05.200
Just that whole age, you really have to be careful, but I think a lot more people are
02:11:14.860
I'm glad that people do, because I would doubt myself, too.
02:11:19.520
So, besides you, I think all of you said that body count shouldn't matter.
02:11:28.980
So, if body count shouldn't matter, what's your body count?
02:11:38.060
I stopped counting, because people would ask me that all the time, and I'm like, you know,
02:11:46.280
I lost my virginity in senior year of high school, so, like, I didn't have, like, that
02:11:50.660
crazy high school experience or anything like that.
02:11:53.720
Like, it's probably a lot lower than people think, but...
02:12:13.960
But at that point, it was up to, like, before I deleted it, it was up to, like...
02:12:26.420
You say it shouldn't matter, but we're saying it's still the range.
02:12:49.480
And honestly, a lot of girls do lie about their body count on the first go.
02:12:54.920
And when someone said that to me, they're like, you're lying.
02:13:10.600
And then, John, do you want to share yours while we're in?
02:13:26.060
I'm not like one of these flaky, weird people that's going to get offended.
02:13:42.040
If you've been in, like, a couple long-term relationships, then average, at most, like,
02:14:12.220
I would say, like, 30-something in the 30 range.
02:14:18.340
I mean, I have to get to know you as a person to, like, throw a number out there.
02:14:25.200
I would say, but I would probably, if I'm being ruthless, I'd probably say 40s.
02:14:43.940
But, no, it's also the 20 years of, like, being sexually active.
02:14:58.160
So, if we do the math, on average, it's one every other day.
02:15:03.260
It's also depending, like, again, relationship.
02:15:15.160
So, as a man of God, I do not share my body count.
02:15:46.520
Multiply it by three, and that's the real number.
02:15:52.240
Really quick, before we get to the rest of the Super Chats, guys, we are going to get to them.
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The conversation's been flown, and we had a lot of TTS come through.
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They expect perfect diamonds from men, had to correct, or my bad analogy, falls flat.
02:18:00.420
Have you ever considered that sleeping around or casually dating several people at the same
02:18:04.800
time could be negatively impacting your mental health or be a sign that there's
02:18:08.960
a deeper personal issue that hasn't been resolved?
02:18:13.120
Really quick answers on this, guys, if you want.
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I mean, I think it really depends on the person.
02:18:25.860
Like, honestly, like, even for me, like, I don't know if this is directed at me, honestly,
02:18:41.860
If you are primarily sleeping around because you want to feel that warmth and that warm body
02:18:46.660
of someone else, then I think that that's negative in a sense.
02:18:49.660
And, like, if you were looking for something, like, unless you were literally just want
02:18:52.760
to, like, get, like, an orgasm or something and, like, just dip, like, whatever.
02:18:57.280
Yeah, hitting, quit it, per se, then, like, that's fine.
02:18:59.960
But, like, if you were looking for just a warm body or, like, company because you're lonely,
02:19:14.840
We have Jamie Snapshot, $20 Super Chat, Noice Socks.
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I got standards, broke out, opened my eyes, thought women were pickier than men, but did
02:19:49.780
the app, and was amazed at how few decent men there are.
02:20:08.960
Like, there can be an unattractive redhead, but there can also be an unattractive redhead.
02:20:13.900
Like, it's not like every single redhead is unattractive.
02:20:25.560
I don't know what's going on with that camera or this angle.
02:21:06.000
I really like career stuff, so Instagram's my career.
02:21:34.300
That was a big decision that went by pretty bad.
02:21:50.080
Can the panel, aside from Brian and MLD, not really define high-value man?
02:21:54.980
Not really define high-value man and high-value.
02:22:03.560
I think they're saying they didn't like our answers.
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Sydney is really cute, and it's, and it, she, and it, she learns from her mistakes.
02:22:25.460
If we run into each other where I'm meeting people that I'm dating, never say never.
02:22:38.520
So you're going to be, you said you're not going to be dating.
02:22:52.160
My therapist actually says that I have to stop thinking that every guy who is like,
02:23:00.260
She was literally like, you have to stop being so optimistic and such a hopeless romantic.
02:23:10.460
So yeah, I'm trying to be a little bit less optimistic.
02:23:12.580
So you're a little bit like a hopeless romantic?
02:23:15.160
That's why I keep getting into these situations.
02:23:32.280
Um, I had one when I was in Philly and then I moved to New York.
02:23:35.780
So I had one and then I had one in Orange County and then one here.
02:23:52.640
I, it might've came in this TTS where I might've, what is blue hair?
02:23:56.160
Did, what is blue hair going to do when her looks are gone and she has no education or
02:24:02.020
By the way, guys, check out Chloe Roma, Roma army, her channel on YouTube.
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It's really funny that you make assumptions about me that I have no education or I didn't
02:24:22.380
When she comes on the show, maybe we have you both on.
02:24:28.440
Oh, wait, was it the girl that was on the TikTok?
02:24:35.820
I don't think you're, uh, what's the term for it?
02:24:38.940
Uh, I'm not sure if you're going to be able to, uh, shit, what's the term?
02:24:44.700
You're not going to be able to flatter her into, uh.
02:24:49.760
That's the thing though, is like, regardless of what people say to me, like, I will say,
02:24:55.680
Like, regardless, you know, even if they are roasting me, like, it's not intentionally to be like,
02:25:00.560
It's like, I want you to know that, like, I don't act that way.
02:25:09.300
So you're just going to be professionally hot for your whole life?
02:25:12.000
No, so that's, so I don't want to get married, but that doesn't mean that I wouldn't be okay
02:25:17.420
with having, like, someone, a partner, in a sense.
02:25:22.840
I don't want to have someone to call them my boyfriend.
02:25:28.420
Like, that's like, if I don't have one, then that's fine too.
02:25:30.640
Because there are not a lot of people that are, like, okay with that and not having labels.
02:25:34.200
Because, like, people are like, oh, yeah, labels, like, whatever.
02:25:37.240
And then they're like, well, wait, what are we?
02:25:41.560
It's because you want to, like, you don't want to lose any sense of freedom that you have?
02:25:46.080
Like, I'm very, it took me a very long time to get to the, where I am right now.
02:26:01.160
Like, I'm just in a way better headspace and way better mental place.
02:26:06.480
Because a lot of people will stay with somebody that they really don't think is a good partner
02:26:12.080
Like, the idea, like, even for me, like, I'm a pretty successful guy.
02:26:17.420
And so, like, I could go out there and get a girl to date.
02:26:22.520
But even the idea of me going out and dating nowadays, I'm just like, oh.
02:26:30.420
You know, I feel like I got to, like, fucking detox and, like, get ready for this shit.
02:26:38.520
But I would say it took a lot of, like, self-reflection and, like, a lot of therapy, a lot of, like.
02:26:48.100
And then I also, like, this wasn't my choice, but I got forced to, this was, like, a little
02:26:53.220
bit ago, but I got forced to go into, like, a wilderness therapy type thing.
02:27:01.480
It was, like, it was, if you guys see that stuff on TikTok, it was, like, wouldn't it?
02:27:09.640
But, like, since then, I went on a journey of just, like, self-care.
02:27:15.240
Like, reading books, like, so many different books and, like, talking to my parents, like,
02:27:23.040
I just think that I healed my inner child and, like, myself, in a sense, where, like, I looked
02:27:29.700
into the mirror and I actually saw who I was versus, like, the outside.
02:27:42.440
No, no, listen, I want to, I do a lot of inner child work.
02:27:50.260
No, I do a lot of inner child work with my guys because a lot of them will have, like,
02:27:54.860
these unresolved issues with their dads and moms.
02:28:08.140
I didn't say anything because I thought you guys might be cold.
02:28:22.960
To the girl who gave the sperm donor answer, does she feel like sperm donor is the best
02:28:26.020
route because she thinks she's already too high value to improve herself for a potential
02:28:32.860
I think where my mind went with that was if I'm going to try to improve myself for to
02:28:40.080
find a man, I'm going to go in it with the wrong intention.
02:28:43.180
So, to find someone, have a natural chemistry, have the dopamine effect, get over the honeymoon
02:28:50.940
phase, think that genetically they're the one for me.
02:28:57.080
So, if I'm 30 and I want a kid that's, like, ideal, that's what I'm going to do.
02:29:03.940
When, the question was, like, when you're 30, what can you improve on yourself?
02:29:11.600
I don't see myself as higher than, I don't know, an email that I'm looking at.
02:29:35.160
Let's talk when you are old and alone, talking to your cats like they are children.
02:29:42.320
I'm not even old and I talk to my cat like it's a child.
02:29:52.720
Meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meaw, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow.
02:30:17.400
But, like, at the end of the day, if I'm meant to find someone, then I will find someone.
02:30:21.340
Like, I'm not sitting here like, oh, I'm going to reject every single man that comes to me.
02:30:26.660
But I'm not going to marry them or anything like that.
02:30:29.620
But I want to find someone to travel the world with.
02:30:35.740
I don't want, like, a wedding or anything like that.
02:30:37.520
And, like, we can get, like, a tattoo or something together.
02:30:40.720
But, like, I don't need to legally marry someone, you know?
02:31:15.300
By the way, Zantian's TTS is $69, just so we're moving through the show a little faster
02:31:30.640
How big it is of you to be decisive of their language and culture regarding women.
02:31:38.840
You know, now it's coming, you know, to bite them in the ass because there's not enough
02:31:42.020
women and all of the men in China have to work so hard to get a wife because there are fewer
02:31:48.840
and the birth rate is actually declined for the first time in a very long time and they
02:31:56.420
All right, Praxis, $20 soup chat, despite her chaotic dating life, Sydney learns from
02:32:07.220
Chaz, $20 soup chat, ladies, what would you say you have done wrong in your past relationships?
02:32:20.680
Um, I know for me what I've done wrong is, well, I think ultimately I'm very independent
02:32:30.880
and I pride myself in that, but that causes me to just get really kind of bored.
02:32:37.500
If, if a relationship is going, it gets pretty mundane and I want to travel.
02:32:43.940
I have the ability to travel with my job and I want to do that.
02:32:51.720
What, what's the holdup or, oh yeah, you can, I'm, I'm sure some more have come through.
02:32:58.780
But I think, I don't even know as far as I'm done wrong.
02:33:04.620
I am probably not the most patient person with wanting to work and compromise with someone
02:33:09.800
who has a very set career and can't adapt for me.
02:33:13.120
I think that's where my weakness is, is if you're not able to adapt for me.
02:33:17.880
Because of my lifestyle and my priorities, and maybe that's a little selfish, but I'm
02:33:23.780
very independent and it's really hard for me because of that.
02:33:28.100
So you, the mistake you've made in the past relationship is you've gone bored too easily.
02:33:34.240
My first two relationships were definitely because I was afraid of being alone and I like
02:33:40.960
And then the last relationship was, uh, I like matched, I was like so enamored by them.
02:33:48.940
So then like it just like escalated back and forth.
02:34:04.940
Like he knew what buttons to push for me and I knew for him in the end we both loved each
02:34:10.060
other, but the things that were happening in our life were like head, like he had another
02:34:19.000
Um, I was going through like my breakup and then I was struggling with the idea of like
02:34:27.940
sharing a man with another family that I wanted to have a family.
02:34:34.940
I mean, that seems like a legitimate concern, but, uh, well, yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:34:38.200
But they've asked them like things started butting heads and it was like one little tiny thing
02:34:41.740
and it was another and I was like going to the birth of it and like how you went to the
02:34:47.080
Him going, like the details on which of him going and like, like how he's going to be
02:34:51.700
in the life if he's not going to be in the life, what he wants to do.
02:34:56.020
It was just a little conversations, a little tiny one.
02:35:06.120
He killed the firstborn too, got his social security, sold it.
02:35:12.360
Cried a lot, uh, went a little manic and then decided to be a single person.
02:35:17.080
I've been single for a very, very, very long time.
02:35:18.820
It sounds like, it sounds like the sex is really good in that relationship.
02:35:28.700
Uh, I would say maybe not, maybe assuming that I know who they are before really like
02:35:40.140
Um, also I would say, I don't know, for me personally, I was, uh.
02:35:51.360
Does anybody respect something that is easy to get?
02:35:54.900
Women with high body counts are not BC getting sex for women is easy.
02:35:59.680
Paternity also is an issue with promiscuous women.
02:36:09.960
So you were shaking your head when he was talking about it, that it's easy for women
02:36:17.540
I was shaking my head about the fact that you think that a higher body count makes someone
02:36:21.060
easy because what if they like, if they have a higher body count, what if they're specifically
02:36:25.560
looking for this one person and you don't meet that requirement and she's not easy to
02:36:35.060
Well, he's not, I don't, can you pull that up, Eric, really quick?
02:36:40.000
Uh, so it says, he's not saying that women with high body counts are easy.
02:36:46.640
He's saying it's women with high body counts are, uh, not respected because it's, uh, getting
02:36:55.300
I read it as high body count, easy to have sex with women.
02:36:58.580
But do you disagree with it that it's easy for women to get sex?
02:37:03.560
Um, yeah, I would say it's probably easier for women than men.
02:37:12.040
I can tell you it's way easier for women to get sex.
02:37:18.500
An average woman has about the same, uh, sexual options.
02:37:29.240
In order for, in order for a guy to have as many sexual options as an average woman, he
02:37:36.300
Because an average woman could sleep with a new guy every single day of the week.
02:38:17.900
So we were on Chaz's, unless, did any of you want to add to the TTS that came through?
02:38:25.200
So we were talking about one thing that you've done wrong in a past relationship.
02:38:29.800
Well, as I've gotten kind of some time to think about it too, I would say trying to change
02:38:37.680
a man into being what I need instead of just accepting him for exactly who he is.
02:38:42.120
And if I need something else, go find someone else, but not change them.
02:38:45.760
I used to try to like make them into that person.
02:38:56.420
But also just being like more codependent and like losing myself and then because I
02:39:03.700
love them so much and I want to do everything for them and like be everything that they do.
02:39:07.520
You come off as like harsh and cold, but you're really a softy and like really just really.
02:39:14.740
Oh, well, I, just on the whole change thing really quick.
02:39:22.360
I saw this quote the other day and I wrote it down and maybe you guys might relate.
02:39:27.800
So men marry women with the hope they will never change.
02:39:31.600
Women marry men with the hope they will change.
02:39:44.960
So do you want to go with our, what do we, one thing we've did wrong in our past?
02:39:52.320
I would say one of the biggest reasons is communication actually, weirdly, I know, but
02:39:57.920
I'm terrible at communicating like over the phone and stuff like that.
02:40:03.900
Um, but then also I think that I, I see when I started dating a man, I kind of make up this
02:40:12.340
fantasy man in my head and I think that that's how they are because that's the only thing
02:40:18.960
And then once we're in a relationship, I start seeing things that like, I don't, that don't
02:40:23.140
fit into the narrative that I had already played out in my head.
02:40:33.040
Just, I've never done anything wrong in a relationship.
02:40:49.000
Cause I gotta, I gotta think about this one for a sec.
02:40:52.260
I could be a little bit, I could be a little bit of an asshole when I'm in a relationship.
02:40:55.540
Like sometimes I'm like, no, we're not doing that.
02:40:58.600
Like, and it's not like, you know, can you take me on a date?
02:41:02.200
It's just like sometimes, you know, I run my own business.
02:41:07.620
So I'm very driven and I know where I want to go.
02:41:14.900
Like I, I'm not a guy, like I can't seriously date a girl who drinks alcohol.
02:41:21.000
There's only one room for a degenerate in the relationship and that's me.
02:41:24.520
You know, like I want like a good woman to like take care of me.
02:41:28.700
Not, not like mommy issue shit like she was saying earlier.
02:41:31.360
Like I want, I want a competent helpmate that I could come home to and I can be like, babe,
02:41:36.420
like I just had a shitty day and she knows how to help me out and do stuff like that.
02:41:40.880
You know, so, but I can be a little bit of an asshole sometimes, you know, when I'm just
02:41:46.480
like say something, how I say it, it's not, it's not my intention, but sometimes I can
02:41:50.100
be like, you know, a little cold when I just look at a decision that means to me and just
02:41:57.320
So, I don't know if this is something that I do wrong, but it is something that women,
02:42:12.640
It's, uh, you know, my goal is to make an obscene amount of money.
02:42:17.020
I want to pay off my parents' mortgage because my parents are, uh, the most important thing
02:42:23.700
And, uh, you know, I'm, I'd consider myself very ambitious and I work a lot and coinciding
02:42:41.220
Like I'm, I'm so stressed out with work as it is.
02:42:47.960
The, the little free time I do have, I just want to chill.
02:42:54.900
Um, I, you'll have my full undivided attention when we're hanging out, but I don't have time
02:43:04.100
Um, so like on one hand girls want ambitious men, but a lot of ambitious men don't have
02:43:14.140
So I think, uh, yeah, high, high value dudes come with high value problems.
02:43:18.820
Like it's unfortunate, like, you know, it also sounds like maybe right now in the phase
02:43:23.180
of your life, you're not ready for a relationship that takes up a lot of your time.
02:43:26.040
But when you have a successful business and all your income is passive, you know, then
02:43:31.320
Well, I, I mean, I'm, I'm not interested in, and I've really frankly never been interested
02:43:38.600
I've always, uh, valued building something with someone and having continuity.
02:43:44.700
To me, it's just not worth the time to always be trying to pursue someone new.
02:43:49.440
And honestly, it's just a headache if you've, for, I look, I've had a few times in the past
02:43:54.780
where I've tried kind of dating multiple people.
02:43:58.700
I've done the calculus and it's just, I, it's not worth it.
02:44:02.480
I think I'd much rather give my time to other things.
02:44:11.440
Um, I find that to be optimal for my work anyways.
02:44:16.960
Uh, I don't have the time to be trying to fucking be a playboy.
02:44:21.400
Um, I've, I've had a lot of experience dating and stuff, but, um, yeah, it's, uh, so I,
02:44:27.920
I am desirous of a relationship, but with someone that understands that, uh, I not really, I don't
02:44:36.980
You will have my undivided attention when I'm with you.
02:44:39.340
I'm not on the phone and on the computer distracted and shit, but we're not going to brunch.
02:44:50.160
Brunch is like, well, you know, here's the thing.
02:45:00.480
But, uh, yeah, it's just, uh, and I'm, I'm with you.
02:45:04.340
Well, I know you said in a girl, you don't want a girl that drinks or anything like that.
02:45:08.100
Um, that's definitely my preference too, because I don't drink at all.
02:45:20.400
I, uh, I'd rather masturbate with sandpaper than go to a nightclub or a bar.
02:45:38.780
If you can have a conversation, you know, but like I went to Vendôme and just like blasting music.
02:45:51.580
It's something where it's like intimate, chill setting, but yeah.
02:45:55.460
So I totally get, and earlier when I was saying like, I feel kind of selfish for thinking how you, what you just said, but then you said, it's all about the timing in your life and when, what's most important to you.
02:46:10.400
If you don't have the time to adapt in that situation for someone else because you're busy with your work, then that's cool.
02:46:20.760
Well, and I think one thing I've encountered is that some women may perhaps most women will wrongly think because I don't want to go out and do these like cutesy dates and shit that I'm not interested in something serious with her.
02:46:33.320
But it's, it's not the case at all for me because what, well, one, I am, I do lean.
02:46:38.840
I like to travel and stuff, but like, I don't, I don't need to be going out and doing all this shit, but I don't know when a girl, like also when a girl, like wants to be constantly doing shit and she's bored and she's just not content.
02:46:53.320
Just at least for me, I don't need to be playing mini golf with a girl to be content in her presence.
02:46:59.800
I can just be, we can be lounging in our sweatpants.
02:47:11.520
You don't need, I don't need a girl to be all dolled up.
02:47:18.800
I actually, everything that you've been saying, I'm like, that's literally exactly how I am too, is that I don't need all that stuff.
02:47:24.600
Like just take me on, like take me to the beach.
02:47:26.300
And honestly, when, when, if, if that's how it's been, and then I've had situations where the girl starts to want to go do shit.
02:47:37.880
I think you want a girl that's like, she's just happy to be spending time with you.
02:47:48.680
Like I love to travel with my girl, but like when I'm at home.
02:47:52.360
If she likes you, that's all that really matters.
02:47:57.500
You know, if the chemistry's there, you know, they'll go with you in McDonald's.
02:48:01.940
And there's little things you can do at the house to show them that you care about them without.
02:48:12.180
Like the amount of times that I've like made a little pillow for and just like done that
02:48:16.160
for like my, even like myself or like my friends.
02:48:21.840
Like you don't have to go anywhere for it to be a date.
02:48:24.420
It's all about the person and honestly the sex.
02:48:38.300
And yes, I lost the fedora pick meant to do it long ago.
02:48:57.180
My back's been, I mentioned this when me and John had our one-on-one interview, which you
02:49:04.540
I, a couple of years ago, a couple of years back, fractured my back, broke my back L5S1.
02:49:11.960
It's slowly, you know, improved, but actually this past week I've had a pretty, honestly,
02:49:17.060
the worst flare up since I initially injured my back.
02:49:21.880
So some spasming, pretty, I'm in some pain right now, but yeah.
02:49:26.800
So it'll get better, but yeah, it's been a bit rough.
02:49:30.980
So if you've seen me squirming in the chair a bit, guys, and yeah, I've been a little distracted
02:49:36.520
too recently because of the pain, but anyways, appreciate the kind words, Louis.
02:49:43.300
Women and beta men use sign language, shame, insult, guilt, need to be right when a fact
02:49:48.160
statement that said makes them feel bad or is true.
02:49:51.880
They say buzzwords to insult men and wonder why chivalry is dead.
02:50:10.460
I really do because I think that some people, like some men will say, like, I don't know,
02:50:18.300
But the thing is, it's kind of gotten to a point, like, where women are, like, kind
02:50:24.940
So, like, when a guy does it, he kind of looks like a pussy.
02:50:28.240
You're kind of like, oh, yeah, you're falling into.
02:50:35.200
I like when a man doesn't care what other men say.
02:50:40.460
You got to do it like a, like, you got to do it with some style.
02:50:43.760
I think it's sad that men do feel like they're pussies if they're being nice.
02:50:48.640
It's not, it's not that, but it's how the girls treat them after they do it.
02:50:55.080
A lot of girls, like, you hold the door open for them.
02:50:56.920
They're, like, looking at their phone, they're, like, yeah, thanks, fucker.
02:51:02.200
I'm not saying you girls, but I'm just telling you, there's.
02:51:04.380
That's a common reality for a lot of men to do.
02:51:09.500
I think it stems from insecurity, personally, on the woman's part.
02:51:12.620
Well, and, yeah, and also a lot of men have had the experience of they do what they've
02:51:17.680
been told by society and by women is the right thing.
02:51:22.380
They do the elaborate romantic movie moment gesture.
02:51:25.860
They, you know, pay for the date, and then they get the ass out hug at the end of the
02:51:32.080
So, men typically are not being rewarded for that kind of behavior.
02:51:39.240
I'm not saying that men are owed anything because they do that, but when they do it,
02:51:43.200
it doesn't seem to work, and then they later find out that that girl hooked up with some
02:51:47.540
guy who didn't do any of that shit, who was kind of the jerk, the bad boy, the asshole,
02:51:54.060
Men look at what works, and they see, well, paying for flowers, doing all this shit.
02:52:04.260
My brother just had this conversation with me earlier.
02:52:08.220
He said, well, he's been trying to be the sweet guy, and same thing you said, flowers.
02:52:13.860
He flew out all the way to Wisconsin to see a girl.
02:52:19.960
And he told me today, because I said I was coming on here, he goes, I'm just going to go
02:52:25.920
And he was like, because, and then I was like, no, don't do that.
02:52:29.120
And he was like, no, really, because I'm not getting anywhere being the nice guy, and
02:52:41.140
But the thing is, though, like, when the guy does do a genuine nice gesture, like,
02:52:47.460
a lot of girls treat him like he's just some fucking, like, pleb.
02:52:50.980
Like, just some, like, dude that doesn't get any, you know, how you treat your Twitch
02:53:14.780
But I feel like, I mean, for me, kind of, like, I'm a grateful person regardless.
02:53:19.620
Like, someone could literally give me a penny and I'd be like, oh, my God, thank you so
02:53:24.020
But, like, if someone gets, like, I think for other women, it's kind of, like, the flowers
02:53:30.020
and the chocolates, like, that's, like, an empty gift.
02:53:34.140
Like, even it's kind of like, oh, you, like, you've just seen other people do that.
02:53:38.680
Like, get, like, their favorite flowers or, like, something that's, like, memorable so
02:53:42.720
that they wouldn't forget that instead of just getting, like, roses.
02:53:47.400
Like, you know, I just think that overall, like, the entitlement they got.
02:53:55.240
It's the prettiest penny I've ever seen in my life.
02:54:13.440
No, I like it from, I think it's important for any guy to do that.
02:54:17.880
But if they're met with, yeah, that entitlement you're talking about, that's super sad.
02:54:23.940
My philosophy for the guys is do it if you, A, if it truly aligns with your belief system.
02:54:34.900
Because I've been, like, I'm pretty sure you girls have been as well.
02:54:37.600
I've been in a relationship with somebody where they didn't appreciate me.
02:54:40.920
And I was just like, bitch, I'm doing everything for you.
02:54:44.660
You know, like, that is never something you want to feel.
02:54:47.600
So, if it's happening towards the beginning, you know, that's just never a good way to set up the relationship.
02:54:52.960
Do you guys think that chivalry would include, for example, the guy paying on the first date?
02:55:00.980
Or, like, or actually paying if the girl says yes.
02:55:06.940
I think the other thing, too, though, is why chivalry is on the way out is men don't want to be suckers.
02:55:13.120
And the reality of the dating marketplace is people are dating multiple people at the same time.
02:55:19.120
People are sleeping with multiple people at the same time.
02:55:22.360
And a guy doesn't want to adhere to his traditional gender roles if a woman is not adhering to hers.
02:55:28.580
Tradition would dictate that, in a traditional sense, you're dating one person at a time.
02:55:36.280
And to take it a step further, most people have a roster.
02:55:39.260
They're sleeping with one, two, three other people.
02:55:40.880
The last thing a guy wants to do is, for example, do the nice thing, do the chivalry, and then pay for a woman's food on a date, for example.
02:55:58.140
And then brings that food over to the guy who she's sleeping with, gives him the food.
02:56:18.080
I was like, bitch, eat this desperate for a meal?
02:56:25.340
And then we went on the date, and she ordered a bunch of food.
02:56:27.920
And then the date was over, and she wanted to go home.
02:56:31.720
And I figured out that she was doing it just to get a free meal, which is hilarious.
02:56:36.240
There are men out there that they're the guy that the girl goes over to after they've been on a date with the guy.
02:56:46.440
I don't know if I've been the guy on the date paying for the food.
02:56:49.700
I don't really do dinner dates, but maybe a few times in the past.
02:56:52.940
But I've definitely had a girl that she brought some food over.
02:56:58.720
And, like, she was like, yeah, I went on a date.
02:57:03.600
Yeah, girls, like, girls have dudes in their phone, like, Uber.
02:57:14.580
I think when it comes down to it is, like, when someone decides that they want a long-term monogamous relationship
02:57:20.580
or when they want to settle down and have family and kids, that behavior will change.
02:57:24.300
Like, this is, like, you know, everyone has that ho phase.
02:57:27.120
Everyone goes through guys and girls, you know, and all of that.
02:57:56.960
You know, because there are girls that, like, do, like, three-year ho phases.
02:58:03.460
Like, by definition, what would you say a ho phase is?
02:58:15.640
I just did that because I know you could take it.
02:58:19.280
I mean, I would say it's someone who's probably being promiscuous, not committing to one guy,
02:58:25.680
sleeping, maybe having multiple partners, or jumping from dick to dick to dick to dick.
02:58:33.780
We're just very apprehensive about getting involved with anything because, like, what you
02:58:39.420
girls put on social media is, like, fucking traumatizing.
02:58:41.840
Like, I see this shit on TikTok, like, I fuck, I'm 19 and I have, like, a 63 body count.
02:58:48.780
You know, seeing that kind of stuff, guys are just like, oh, man, I just want, like,
02:58:52.040
a nice girl that's, like, not been ran through.
02:58:55.180
And, like, I can introduce her to my mom and, like, not feel unshamed, you know?
02:58:59.020
Yeah, except there are people that I think that, like, have been, per se, ran through
02:59:03.900
that would still make an amazing impression on your mother.
02:59:13.500
Yeah, moms will do this and mothers do have a sixth sense.
02:59:17.140
All I'm saying is that I've met a lot of moms and stuff like that and they all, like,
02:59:21.920
love me and they think that I'm a very innocent girl because, like, that's my...
02:59:46.740
To me, when somebody said, like, who killed chivalry, I was going to say social media.
02:59:54.920
Because I do think that it's changed the way that men and women interact with each other.
03:00:00.840
You know, like, I think it's 50% of all divorce filings have the words Facebook or Instagram
03:00:14.060
Honestly, I would say that I, like, genuinely, like, if you guys met me, like, outside of
03:00:19.920
this, like, chilling, like, hair tied, chilling in a makeup, like, in the grocery store, like,
03:00:23.940
you would probably be like, oh, my God, that girl's so, like...
03:00:33.140
You'd be like, oh, why is that guy wearing a suit in here?
03:00:36.620
People, like, stop and they're like, why are you so happy?
03:00:42.400
I don't know you well enough to make a definitive statement on this, but, I mean, is it possible
03:00:56.580
I'm not criticizing sex work, but what I'm saying is...
03:01:07.100
I mean, a component of innocence is purity, and I don't take this...
03:01:11.960
I don't think that you can be on OnlyFans and also, that's fine if you are, but I don't
03:01:18.340
think you can be innocent or pure if you're on OnlyFans.
03:01:24.220
I would say maybe that's the wrong term, but, like, you wouldn't look at me on the streets
03:01:27.860
and be like, that girl's definitely an OnlyFans girl.
03:01:32.240
Well, no, if I wasn't wearing this, like, if I'm wearing, like, my everyday, like, after
03:01:35.280
this podcast, I'm going to put on, like, my regular clothes or whatever.
03:01:38.140
Yeah, literally sweats and a shirt, and you will, like, it's not, like, you wouldn't look
03:01:41.320
at me and be like, she definitely does OnlyFans, for sure.
03:01:45.600
Okay, maybe I was being a little pedantic, but, um...
03:02:07.120
I mean, you can kind of trace it back to birth control, I think.
03:02:10.180
When there's the sexual revolution, and then we've kind of redefined how...
03:02:17.540
I want to keep them moving just to get through these super chats.
03:02:41.240
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03:02:45.480
Rebecca, why are your red pill friends are red pilled?
03:02:48.560
What stuff does your red pill friends say that are red pill?
03:02:50.820
To Brian, how is Santa Barbara more expensive than L.A. right now?
03:02:57.320
Santa Barbara is like one of the highest cost of living cities in California and in the country.
03:03:11.920
I got evacuated from Santa Barbara because of the flooding, but...
03:03:25.440
They are high earners, though, but I was going to ask, do you guys have one-bedroom apartments?
03:03:39.560
Well, maybe I was thinking like a standard one-bedroom apartment, but do you have housemates,
03:03:46.180
It's my own that I had my friend move in last week.
03:04:16.780
I think studios and one-bedrooms right now is probably closer to like $2,500.
03:04:27.900
The chat doesn't really care too much about the rent.
03:04:40.000
But also, I don't consider myself to be red-pilled.
03:04:43.500
And I think our friend group specifically, the males are primarily red-pilled.
03:05:04.340
Her and I are pretty masculine, so we kind of stir things up in there.
03:05:11.900
It's more like the ideology of like, oh, you know, I'll pay for it.
03:05:20.600
But then these guys, our friends, will get butt-hurt if you open a door.
03:05:31.220
I think it's actually the most, like, pretty fucking red pill if the girl pays for you.
03:05:47.120
Because in a day and age where you have foodie calls and where men are getting finessed on
03:05:53.380
dates and women are going on dates with perhaps not the most genuine of intentions without
03:05:58.920
actual romantic interest, some women will just go on a date because they're bored.
03:06:10.900
Whereas I think men, when they are going on a date, they're a bit more genuine with their
03:06:15.720
intentions insofar as they are interested in you.
03:06:19.400
Now, whether that's for sex or for something more serious, that's kind of where it gets
03:06:24.300
But I think women should pay for first dates because I often hear women say, well, I think
03:06:31.300
Well, I think it actually should be the reverse because if a girl pays for you, that's how
03:06:40.920
Because that totally does away with this potentiality of there being a foodie call.
03:06:48.300
I can't even stomach that though for me personally.
03:06:50.880
If they'll try to buy for me, I'm like, just no.
03:06:56.160
But I think also the girls that are like, you know, they want the more traditional kind
03:07:01.060
The guys typically are more chivalrous, which can border on chauvinism a little bit.
03:07:06.720
But you have to ask yourself, like, I think a lot of people nowadays, too, they're just
03:07:10.540
like too obsessed and too entitled thinking like, I deserve the most perfect person.
03:07:20.220
Like, you don't deserve the most perfect person.
03:07:29.480
You know, if you bring a certain amount of things to the table, you're going to get
03:07:34.060
You know, this is like when you're in a bad place, you keep on attracting fucked up people.
03:07:41.460
I think like if your friends are like, yeah, doing like like that saying, like if your friends
03:07:46.320
are all smoking, like you're going to end up smoking.
03:07:51.760
Hey, Eric, this just occurred to me, but because I'm I'm OCD and triggered by the weird white balance
03:07:58.960
on this, when we're talking, just keep it center because that at least addresses the
03:08:02.860
annoying color issue we're having really quick.
03:08:05.060
I want to bring it back to Valentine's Day for Valentine's Day.
03:08:07.980
Do you think that the guy should kind of be initiating that?
03:08:20.500
I think just because it's one day dedicated to romance, it doesn't I wouldn't want a guy
03:08:26.460
to feel like he's forced to initiate something just because it's a special day.
03:08:31.680
I think it's important that if it's OK with the girl, he can pay or she if she's OK with
03:08:39.940
that or or she can pay if she wants to take a guy out for Valentine's Day.
03:08:45.480
But I don't think there should be a specific day where a guy feels forced to treat the
03:09:09.660
I think it's also like if traditionally in that relationship, I'm the one who's always
03:09:13.700
been planning things, then it shouldn't like all of a sudden turn around and be like,
03:09:17.980
It's more like, hey, I'm going to plan something.
03:09:19.640
Like, would you like, would you like to do it together?
03:09:23.060
I'll always get flowers for guys on their birthday and Valentine's Day because I think guys
03:09:52.480
Are you, you, you getting me flowers or what's up?
03:10:22.560
Thank you for, thank you for asking, by the way, Sidney.
03:10:28.820
Should a guy get a chick stuff for Valentine's Day?
03:10:43.620
Are you going to do anything for Valentine's Day?
03:11:16.260
I saw two baboons having penetrative sex when I was young.
03:11:25.780
And ever since then, I've been quite averse to going to the zoo.
03:11:31.760
Well, if you explain that to her, then it would be rude of her to plan a zoo.
03:11:38.180
I also saw that happening on a hike, too, which is why I'm not a big fan of hikes.
03:11:47.320
I have an excuse for all of these venues I detest.
03:11:58.780
I'm back with what we saw in the ladies' preferences earlier.
03:12:01.560
Would you advocate for Western men to seek out women overseas?
03:12:04.840
If yes, I think they said they don't really care.
03:12:16.080
Beyond not sharing resources, women are cheap as hell.
03:12:18.040
There's a reason there's no shows like this in the reverse, since you couldn't get a woman
03:12:30.100
The thing is, though, is I think shows like this might be more interesting because you
03:12:38.480
And women don't have the same difficulties that men have.
03:12:46.640
Women have their unique difficulties when it comes to dating and relationships.
03:12:51.520
Men have it at an earlier level, and that level is even getting dates and meeting girls
03:13:03.700
You might have a selection issue in terms of perhaps the suitors are not optimal, but
03:13:20.060
Official rating from MLD, 45547 after listening to their opinions and life views.
03:13:41.260
Do you guys want to say anything nasty back to Jude because of how...
03:13:47.400
Actually, just kind of on this, do you guys have your own ratings for yourselves on a
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Yeah, I don't really like it in the first scale.
03:14:14.160
I think he means how we feel about ourselves, though, but...
03:14:53.780
That's way too unhealthy for me to even say that.
03:15:02.780
Well, your salary and your looks, she's, like, at nine.
03:15:12.780
I have bad body dysmorphia for, sorry, I would say the same.
03:15:16.340
I have bad body dysmorphia for probably more other reasons, but I still think I'm pretty.
03:15:38.980
We are talking about how we view ourselves, correct?
03:15:47.000
I probably would say, like, a six or seven from insecurities because, but not because
03:16:00.720
But, like, I don't, I don't, like, like, to talk about it because the people use it against
03:16:11.040
Like, I'm not going to be a guy because I already know people are being rude.
03:16:14.220
Guys, getting your last minute's hoop chats here.
03:16:16.160
We're going to try to wrap up here pretty soon.
03:16:18.200
So, you had an issue with the rating thing, though.
03:16:26.840
Like, it's going to sound so cheesy, but I feel like there's so many beautiful, like,
03:16:31.500
moments that people have where they look prettier than others.
03:16:34.160
Like, when they're talking about something they love or, like, reading a really good book
03:16:38.680
Like, there's so many things that add to your attractiveness at different times that it's
03:16:56.840
And I don't like to rate other people, either, because I haven't seen them in all of their
03:17:01.960
But I think sometimes the argument is also that, like, we can't just pretend that there's
03:17:07.820
not an objective aspect that some people are more attractive than others.
03:17:14.040
Especially depending on, like, standards of geography.
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And, like, we're in L.A. or, like, L.A. era, so, like, we're comparing to, like, L.A. standards,
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So, it's, like, I think that's the main argument that people get against that.
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But we're also competing against, like, people that have gotten work done.
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Well, you were asking, like, which geographical location?
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But do you object or would you guys object to the, someone rating someone on a numerical
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I don't like it either, but it's kind of, like, it's inevitable.
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I think it's just, honestly, a normal human behavior to evaluate people.
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If there was, like, an AI that would, like, objectively score your beauty, would you go and
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Because, like, I view myself, I wouldn't want to know if I don't view myself.
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I feel like an AI machine would hurt less than someone I value and respect.
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There's tons of, like, objectively more beautiful.
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But, like, I think that if I did do the AI thing, like, I put myself on a high pedestal.
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And I think that other people do it as well, like, in person.
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Like, obviously, on social media and stuff like that, that's completely different.
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But people treat me differently because of the way that I treat myself.
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So, like, other people, I think, view me in that sense as well, like, out in public areas.
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I just always think, like, if anyone objects to, like, the rating scale system, they hopefully
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don't have any height preference at all because that's quite literally a numerical assessment.
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Height is quite literally a numerical judgment.
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So, all right, we have Cheeks here, $20 to chat, dating apps do not work for average
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I would get a match once a month at best, and I am successful, disease-free, not white,
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speak multiple languages, BDE, how dare you, sir, and not short.
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We need to start, I'm going to popularize loose pussy, or tight pussy energy, I don't
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She's like, because she said the same thing you have.
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She's like, what would, like, why is it big dick?
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All labia matter in the chat, by the way, guys.
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I don't think women, you know, it's unfortunate women get shamed if they have a large labia.
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I think it's unfortunate to body shame anyone that can't help it, you know?
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Same thing with men with, like, small, like, I don't know, like, it's just, it's all around.
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It is unfortunate, though, that women do get shamed if they have.
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You know, you hear terms like wizard sleeve, Arby's.
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And I think it's abhorrent, objectionable, because I'm going to admit it.
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Um, because women have a penis size preference, right?
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What are the, what are the, what are the hand gestures you're making?
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I'm just, she's, she's trying to explain this concept of innie and outie.
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It's probably going to be like a fruit or something.
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You want like, you want like after someone gives birth?
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And there's also like a, there's a line in between.
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To people that have never heard of Eddie and Audi, like that's terrifying.
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Here's a friend who was also in the military and tests guns on her Insta.
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That's, I didn't have a chance to chop at him last time.
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How is he going to call himself a dating coach when he went to Japan for easy bait?
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Mike Davis, he owns a chain of Burger King restaurants on the East Coast.
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Body count is less about the number and more about the behavior that drives the choices,
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Advertise, thank you for the 18 British pounds.
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Johnny Boy should generate an AI clone of himself and date himself.
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He'll never find someone to love him as much as he loves himself.
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I graduate from law school next year and my first job salary will probably exceed yours.
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Leave the unambitious brokies, Brian included, behind and come with me to live the good
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Brian broke his back, blown out these ladies' backs.
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Women love romantic jesters from men they already respect, love, and admire.
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Can't buy a woman's genuine desire with trinkets.
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I've dealt with a lot of females in my life and I realize the best recipe is not to be
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It's to forget women altogether and become asexual and married to the money.
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Are you going to jerk off on all that Burger King money?
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Have the women on the panel ever examined the argument that men are the expendable gender
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In the sense of like, if you look at historically...
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I'm going to die for some guy in the 40th boat back.
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One of the most important days in World War II history?
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Name three Axis powers and three Allied powers from World War II.
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I appreciate your honesty, because I was going to say the same thing.
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We have Japan, Germany, and then Italy was actually...
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Yeah, that was what precipitated World War I, the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand.
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But, okay, here's another World War II question.
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Gus, saddest demo person in Western countries is 42-plus women, making 50K-plus, no family
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kids, menopause equals zero eggs, and 100 times more emotional.
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Well, let's, before I wrap up, does anyone have any final thoughts or questions?
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I often like to ask if there's anything dating-related you'd like to get off your chest.
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Maybe men are pissing you off in some way, maybe men are pissing you off in some way, you want
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advice on maybe something dating-related, or if you'd like to omit, just because we're
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I'm happy to continue going, but I know we've gone slightly over, so any final thoughts or
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anything dating-related you'd like to get off your chest?
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If you could only give one piece of advice to a woman in particular for dating, what
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It's like, just for your, it's not to shame you, it's not to say anything, but you just
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Sleeping around, hookup culture, it's just not conducive to building a long-term relationship.
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Sydney, I know you're dying to, you got something to get off your chest.
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I think that guys should keep being the good guys, because there are lots of girls out there
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I think it's sad that guys don't, I don't know.
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You all make money and stuff, but the average trog delight out there is fucking stuff.
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Oh, I met some people like that where I'm like, ooh, I don't even want to be friends
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Really quick that's related to what Sydney said.
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Eric, in the podcast folder, can you pull up the Sheryl Sandberg quote image?
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I think she recently, she's still on the board, but she stepped, control, zoom in.
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When looking for a life partner, my advice to women is date all of them, the bad boys,
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the cool boys, the commitment phobic boys, the crazy boys, but do not marry them.
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The things that make the bad boys sexy do not make them good husbands.
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When it comes time to settle down, find someone who wants an equal partner, someone who thinks
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women should be smart, opinionated, and ambitious.
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Someone who values fairness and expects, or even better, wants to do his share in the
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These men exist, and trust me, over time, nothing is sexier.
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I think it's also important to distinguish that dating does not mean having sex all the
03:35:50.480
Well, something interesting I saw, for example, was situationships, like we said we were talking
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I haven't had sex with the person that I'm talking to.
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It's not true for you, but it is true for the majority.
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And I'm saying it changes for everyone, is all I'm saying.
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If I go on a date with someone, I will make them wait for at least two dates, regardless
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Because I don't do a lot of content with other men.
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If I go on a date with someone, I don't just fuck them automatically.
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It doesn't mean that you're sleeping with the person?
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Yeah, well, I'm just explaining a comment I saw in particular when they were asking us
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And they said, we said, you know, we're talking to people.
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And I was like, I haven't had sex with my person.
03:37:22.180
But just to bring it back to the quote really quick, Eric, if you can just pull that
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So my issue with this and the whole nice guy thing is that typically women in their
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youth, for example, and this is Sheryl Sandberg, a very successful, I think she's a billionaire.
03:37:42.420
Well, in any case, yeah, if you can look for us on your phone.
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But, I mean, she's advising women in your youth, give your youth, give your best years
03:37:52.060
Basically, she's saying sleep around, hook up with dudes.
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And I think a lot of men have an issue with that because she's saying, give those men,
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the men who are perhaps not deserving of your time or your commitment, give them the access
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And then once you're older, you have baggage from all the bad boys that probably treated
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You have baggage, you're bringing all this to the good guy.
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He's the one left dealing with said baggage and you're older and like, I just, I don't,
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I don't think that's good advice because I, and I think a lot of men are waking up to that.
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If we weren't good, if a nice guy or a good guy wasn't good enough for you when you were
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in your prime, so to speak, then he doesn't want you when say he's maybe at his prime.
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I also think that a lot of those like bad boys and assholes, they grow up too and then
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I also think that another way of looking at it is just that like sometimes people have
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to get hurt to learn and sometimes people don't.
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Like sometimes, you know, if my mom's like, don't touch the stove, like I'm the kind of person
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But my sister's not like, you know, some people have to learn the hard way.
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You could have been doing anything else, but you're here with me.
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As I said, we got banned from the TikTok creator fund.
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We still got the TikTok, but TikTok's very strict with their community guidelines, so it
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Thank you to our chat mods, Zach, Candice, Nemesis, Blair.
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Really appreciate you guys coming, especially those of you that came from LA.
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I thought this was a, I think this was perhaps a better panel than last show.
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No, I actually enjoy it, because I'm notorious for going back and forth with chicks just who
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are delusional, but I think you'll actually have a really healthy perspective on things.
03:41:18.640
You, so you, wait, you think you're delusional or what?
03:41:24.100
Yeah, but you said you were flexible on the money thing, right?
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And guys, we will be live again Sunday, 7 p.m. Pacific with another dating show.
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I have a very special guest coming on that day, and it's going to be a very good panel,
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So, yeah, guys, thank you so much for tuning in.