Whatever Podcast - February 16, 2023


Dating Talk #55


Episode Stats

Length

4 hours and 41 minutes

Words per Minute

178.22733

Word Count

50,094

Sentence Count

5,462

Misogynist Sentences

347

Hate Speech Sentences

188


Summary

In this episode of Whatever Happened, we have our first guest on the show, and it's a girl from the previous episode. She's an aspiring screenwriter, writer, and aspiring actress, and she also happens to be in a relationship with a guy named Eric. We talk about what it's like being in a long term relationship, and how she's dealing with it. We also talk about her relationship status and how long it's been going.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 La donna è mobile, qual piuma il vento, muta d'accento e vita in sieno.
00:00:24.500 Sempre un'amabile, legge addroviso, impianto in briso e menzognero.
00:00:35.400 La donna è mobile, qual piuma il vento, muta d'accento e vita in sieno.
00:00:49.500 La donna è mobile, qual piuma il vento, muta d'accento e vita in sieno.
00:01:19.480 Every Sunday and Tuesday at 7 p.m. Pacific, I'm your host, Brian Atlas.
00:01:24.580 I'm joined by my co-host, Kiki.
00:01:27.800 She's a bit shy.
00:01:29.180 Guys, a few quick announcements before the show begins.
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00:03:15.120 And yeah, oh, last thing I just wanted to touch on before I do the intros.
00:03:19.120 So if you tuned into last stream, one of the OnlyFans girls, Cynthia A. Raider, thank you for the prime sub.
00:03:27.580 I don't know if that's a prime sub, but thank you, man.
00:03:29.900 Cynthia, one of the OnlyFans girls from the previous stream, she offered to pay me $500 for me to do a smell test during the show.
00:03:43.020 And she did pay me, so she's a woman of her word.
00:03:47.740 Shout out to Cynthia.
00:03:49.100 Anyways, without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.
00:03:53.560 So please tell us your name, age, and occupation.
00:03:56.280 Go ahead.
00:03:56.940 My name's Sam, and I work at an elderly home, and then I'm 19, and I'm also a student.
00:04:04.680 Okay.
00:04:06.460 Where in?
00:04:07.880 SPCC.
00:04:08.520 What do you study?
00:04:09.380 Film.
00:04:09.760 Oh, okay, cool.
00:04:12.720 I'm Fiona.
00:04:13.680 I'm 22.
00:04:14.580 I just graduated from Parsons in New York, and right now I'm a writer in L.A.
00:04:21.920 A writer?
00:04:22.860 Mm-hmm.
00:04:24.880 Aspiring.
00:04:25.680 Are you screenplay, screenwriting?
00:04:27.740 Okay, cool.
00:04:29.380 Anything I've seen?
00:04:30.800 I just graduated, so no.
00:04:32.640 You haven't had any gigs yet?
00:04:34.360 Nope.
00:04:34.940 Go ahead.
00:04:35.180 I'm Tatum.
00:04:36.220 I'm 18, and I go to Santa Barbara City College.
00:04:40.520 What do you study?
00:04:41.860 I'm undecided, so I'm just doing general ed.
00:04:45.080 I'm Jane.
00:04:45.920 I'm 19.
00:04:47.020 I'm a student at Santa Barbara City College.
00:04:49.780 I'm also a barista at Starbucks, and I'm studying psychology.
00:04:55.600 Okay, very cool.
00:04:56.600 What about you?
00:04:57.160 I'm Chelsea.
00:04:58.060 I'm 18.
00:04:59.140 I'm a first year here at UCSB.
00:05:01.080 Go Gauchos.
00:05:02.100 And I'm studying business.
00:05:04.400 Okay.
00:05:05.680 My name is Sammy.
00:05:06.880 I'm 24, and I'm a tattoo artist at Bone Deep in Camarillo.
00:05:11.000 Tattoo artist.
00:05:11.700 How long have you been doing that?
00:05:12.920 It'll be two years this month.
00:05:15.700 It's so, yeah.
00:05:16.580 Okay.
00:05:17.120 Very cool.
00:05:17.660 Super sick.
00:05:18.240 I'm Liv.
00:05:20.360 I'm 20, and I'm a hairstylist in L.A.
00:05:25.160 Okay, very cool.
00:05:26.960 We're going to go around the table once more.
00:05:28.680 What is your current relationship status, your longest relationship, and how long have you been single?
00:05:36.140 Go ahead.
00:05:36.440 So, current relationship status, I'm single.
00:05:40.600 My longest relationship was a year, and the longest I've been single?
00:05:46.940 Yeah, how long have you been single?
00:05:48.540 For two years now.
00:05:51.040 Okay.
00:05:52.580 I'm single currently.
00:05:54.360 The longest relationship I had was about a year and a half in college, and I've been, I think, like two years single.
00:06:01.900 Okay.
00:06:03.320 I've been single my whole life.
00:06:07.660 But you're 18, correct?
00:06:09.360 Yeah.
00:06:09.660 Okay.
00:06:10.220 So, that's not out of the norm?
00:06:12.200 No.
00:06:12.820 Okay.
00:06:13.260 Have you, what's the longest period of time that you've seen a guy?
00:06:18.680 Like three weeks.
00:06:20.260 Three weeks?
00:06:21.000 Okay.
00:06:21.580 And I might come back to that.
00:06:25.780 Okay, three weeks is the longest period.
00:06:28.540 Are you, by the way, orientation, everyone?
00:06:33.980 Straight, bi?
00:06:35.140 Oh, I'm bi.
00:06:36.060 Bi?
00:06:36.500 Pretty much straight.
00:06:37.780 Bisexual.
00:06:38.940 What's the longest period of time you've dated a girl?
00:06:42.180 I've been single my whole life, so I haven't dated a girl.
00:06:45.660 But have you ever gone on a date with a girl, for example, or hung out with a girl romantically?
00:06:52.300 No.
00:06:52.580 Oh, okay.
00:06:53.800 Gotcha.
00:06:54.460 What about you?
00:06:57.200 I've been single for probably, oh my god, six months now.
00:07:03.580 Can you take that off the table?
00:07:05.780 My longest relationship was probably a year and five months.
00:07:11.360 Okay.
00:07:12.660 And I'm bisexual.
00:07:14.460 Okay.
00:07:15.060 I'm currently in a relationship going on four years.
00:07:22.300 So that, and you're 18, so that was a high school relationship?
00:07:25.380 Yes.
00:07:25.780 Is it long distance?
00:07:26.920 Yes.
00:07:27.820 Extremely.
00:07:28.220 Where are you from originally?
00:07:29.300 I'm from Sacramento.
00:07:30.860 Sacramento.
00:07:31.580 Okay.
00:07:32.280 And he's still in Sacramento, or he's somewhere else?
00:07:34.300 He's in North Carolina.
00:07:36.440 But you both were originally in Sacramento, correct?
00:07:39.440 Yes.
00:07:39.520 Yes.
00:07:39.840 Okay, so he went to North Carolina for college, I'm assuming.
00:07:42.860 Okay, and you said four-year relationship.
00:07:44.180 So that's quite the high school relationship.
00:07:48.760 Oh, yeah.
00:07:49.320 Okay.
00:07:49.940 And were you guys both wanting to do the long distance thing?
00:07:56.460 Yeah.
00:07:57.120 Okay.
00:07:58.020 Have there been any issues with that?
00:08:00.880 There's ups and downs.
00:08:02.340 Okay.
00:08:03.640 Go ahead.
00:08:04.800 I'm currently in a relationship.
00:08:07.180 The longest relationship is my current one now.
00:08:10.040 It's been two years.
00:08:10.820 And yeah, I am, I would say I'm fluid in my sexuality, meaning if I like the person, then
00:08:22.840 I would definitely go on a date with them, get to know them.
00:08:27.580 It all just depends on if you're not a piece of shit or not.
00:08:33.720 Wait, so you, is your relationship open?
00:08:36.940 No, no, no, no, not at all.
00:08:38.900 No, it's just exclusive him and I.
00:08:40.920 Oh, okay.
00:08:41.620 Okay.
00:08:42.060 Liv.
00:08:43.340 I am single, currently feeling somebody out, and I am straight.
00:08:50.920 My longest relationship was about two years, so.
00:08:54.880 You're currently feeling someone out.
00:08:58.040 Mm-hmm.
00:08:59.180 How?
00:09:00.160 Who?
00:09:01.020 No, don't say who.
00:09:02.480 How?
00:09:02.700 So, um, what does that mean, feeling someone out?
00:09:06.680 Like, we're seeing how things are gonna work, just because there is distance involved.
00:09:13.360 We're gonna see if it's worth it.
00:09:18.520 Okay.
00:09:19.700 Good times.
00:09:21.240 So, okay.
00:09:22.680 Guys, everyone's Instagrams are in the description.
00:09:25.260 Please give them a follow.
00:09:26.460 Guys, as you know, it is Valentine's Day, so we're gonna be talking a little bit about Valentine's.
00:09:30.820 I'm joined here, with the exception of these two.
00:09:34.340 We're a bunch of forever alone, hopeless losers.
00:09:38.420 Just kidding.
00:09:39.360 Just kidding.
00:09:40.360 There's time.
00:09:42.520 So, Valentine's Day.
00:09:46.300 Actually, you know what?
00:09:46.940 We'll touch on that later.
00:09:48.200 By the way, we are gonna be doing, reviewing some of the girls' dating apps.
00:09:51.520 Some of the girls are on dating apps, so we're gonna do that in just a few minutes here.
00:09:55.420 Um, so, you two are in relationships.
00:10:00.140 Who here's on a dating app?
00:10:01.640 Show of hands?
00:10:03.320 Okay.
00:10:04.180 Cool.
00:10:05.940 So, before we do your reviews of your dating apps, I wanna talk a little bit about dating apps.
00:10:14.700 So, have any of you, first off, which dating apps are you guys on?
00:10:20.020 Go ahead.
00:10:20.360 I'm on Hinge.
00:10:21.380 Hinge.
00:10:21.840 Yes.
00:10:22.340 Any others?
00:10:23.120 No, just Hinge.
00:10:24.700 Have any of you been on Seeking?
00:10:27.420 No.
00:10:28.380 You've been on Seeking?
00:10:29.540 Mm-hmm.
00:10:30.460 Yes.
00:10:31.180 Okay.
00:10:33.900 Only to explore.
00:10:35.360 Have you met any sugar daddies?
00:10:38.800 No, I never went in person.
00:10:41.120 Oh, but did you get any money from anyone?
00:10:43.940 Just from, like, texting them.
00:10:46.460 Texting them what?
00:10:47.220 Just, like, about their days.
00:10:49.740 Like, light texting, but it really was just simple ones, and it wasn't, like, anything crazy.
00:10:54.700 It was probably, like, I probably got, like, $50 in all.
00:10:57.380 Like, not really.
00:10:59.560 Beat pics?
00:11:00.640 No.
00:11:01.620 Okay.
00:11:02.780 Okay.
00:11:03.720 Normally, there's some sort of exchange of photos.
00:11:07.260 No, there was one guy, and he just wanted to talk, like, have someone to talk to.
00:11:09.860 A lot of these guys just wanted someone to talk to.
00:11:11.940 I mean, not a lot of them, but there was ones that wanted just someone to talk to.
00:11:16.000 Okay.
00:11:17.420 Does anyone here, has anyone here ever had the sugar daddy?
00:11:21.020 Or an offer?
00:11:22.400 Oh.
00:11:23.000 I just sent someone feet pics for money.
00:11:25.280 You've said, sent someone feet pics for money?
00:11:27.280 Yeah.
00:11:28.000 Oh, hold on, guys.
00:11:29.060 Beat and Cheeks donated $69.
00:11:31.860 Chelsea, just dumped the guy.
00:11:33.960 Long distance doesn't work.
00:11:35.800 We will meet in a few months if you want to talk with a real man.
00:11:39.180 Ladies, get off them dating apps.
00:11:41.080 You have thousands of guys waiting on him to speak to you, and you won't respond to them.
00:11:45.780 Enjoy life.
00:11:46.480 Yo, Cheeks, thank you for the, by the way, that is a different TTS coming through Streamlabs.
00:11:53.720 Streamlabs, they don't take the big cut that YouTube does.
00:11:56.440 You can still do it through, you can still do TTS through YouTube, but Streamlabs is, if you want more of your contribution to go towards whatever and not YouTube, Streamlabs is an option.
00:12:08.120 And it'll do the same exact thing.
00:12:10.820 But Cheeks, thank you so much for the support, man.
00:12:12.980 Do you have a response, would you like to respond to Cheeks?
00:12:16.240 I would say thank you for the support, you know, us long distance, we need all we can get, the support, so I appreciate that.
00:12:24.280 Didn't he tell you to break up with your boyfriend?
00:12:26.540 Oh, I thought he said, it does work, like you got this.
00:12:29.760 Was that not the message?
00:12:31.180 Break up, break up.
00:12:31.960 Yeah, I'm pretty sure you, yeah.
00:12:33.520 Oh, no, no, no, no.
00:12:34.380 It doesn't work.
00:12:34.700 He was basically saying, yeah.
00:12:37.000 He was saying there's like better men out there for you besides him.
00:12:39.800 Would you date, um, Beaton Cheeks?
00:12:43.200 That's his name.
00:12:43.880 That's his first and last name, legal name.
00:12:46.800 I'm gonna say no.
00:12:49.120 I would not.
00:12:49.960 You could be Miss Cheeks.
00:12:52.060 I could.
00:12:52.940 You could be Miss Cheeks.
00:12:54.300 I could, but I'm not gonna do that.
00:12:57.120 Okay.
00:12:57.420 But thank you for the offer.
00:12:58.180 All right, okay, all right.
00:12:59.900 Well, uh, what, what if I told you that he owns a chain of Arby's on the East Coast?
00:13:10.260 He's like, he's a proprietor, so he owns a baker's dozen Arby's restaurants, that 13.
00:13:17.500 He owns 13 Arby's restaurants, North Carolina.
00:13:21.920 You know what?
00:13:22.380 Your boyfriend's probably eating at his restaurant right now, come to think of it.
00:13:26.200 Does that spice up his offering?
00:13:30.060 Does the Arby's ownership?
00:13:32.240 That he's, he's a boss.
00:13:34.280 I mean, I would respect the business, um, you know, going after it, but I'ma, I'ma have
00:13:40.860 to say no to the Arby's.
00:13:42.220 Okay, all right, okay.
00:13:43.080 Okay, well, he's, he, he understands, I think, and I'm sure he'd be glad to treat you and
00:13:47.900 your boyfriend to all the sandwiches and meat selections you guys would like.
00:13:53.280 Okay, um, what the fuck were we talking about?
00:13:57.380 Uh, you were, no, feet pic.
00:14:01.120 Yeah.
00:14:01.440 Feet pics, yes.
00:14:02.580 Uh, elaborate.
00:14:04.040 Um, my friend who had a guy who was sending her feet pics for money sent him a picture
00:14:13.040 of me and he wanted my Snapchat and so he got my Snapchat and then he started sending
00:14:17.180 me money for feet pics and it was only once or twice I made maybe like $50, um, but that
00:14:25.220 goes a long way at my age.
00:14:28.100 So you've gotten a couple different times you've made $50 from.
00:14:31.740 No, $50 total.
00:14:33.100 Oh, $50 total.
00:14:33.860 It was like maybe twice I sent it.
00:14:35.580 Has anybody else here ever like sent photos or like just texted with a dude like, and he
00:14:41.760 just gave you money?
00:14:43.200 A pay pic, I think as it's called.
00:14:45.940 No?
00:14:46.780 Besides you?
00:14:47.400 Okay.
00:14:48.240 Okay.
00:14:48.940 So we were talking about dating apps.
00:14:50.600 You're on Tinder.
00:14:52.380 Or Hinge.
00:14:52.980 Or sorry, excuse me, Hinge.
00:14:53.940 Yeah.
00:14:54.200 What about you?
00:14:54.920 I'm on Hinge and Raya.
00:14:56.500 Hinge and Raya.
00:14:58.000 Christian Mingle.
00:14:59.200 I'm not a Christian.
00:15:00.420 Farmers only.
00:15:01.400 I am a farmer.
00:15:02.300 There you go.
00:15:02.780 Find her on Farmers Only, guys.
00:15:04.100 Go ahead.
00:15:04.360 Tinder.
00:15:05.060 Tinder.
00:15:05.640 Okay.
00:15:05.880 What about you?
00:15:06.360 Hinge.
00:15:06.940 Hinge.
00:15:08.200 You have a boyfriend, so hopefully you're not on a dating app.
00:15:11.060 What about you?
00:15:12.620 No dating apps and live.
00:15:14.760 No dating apps.
00:15:15.820 No dating apps.
00:15:16.740 Okay.
00:15:17.340 Good times.
00:15:17.960 Good times.
00:15:19.020 So, Eric, why don't we go ahead and pull up.
00:15:22.320 We're going to just start off right away with the dating app reviews, and then we're going
00:15:26.720 to talk about Valentine's Day after that.
00:15:31.180 All right.
00:15:31.760 So this is Samantha here.
00:15:33.840 This is just her homepage.
00:15:36.860 Note that Samantha's very popular on Hinge.
00:15:40.440 She has 50-plus pending matches.
00:15:43.620 How many is it actually, though?
00:15:45.220 You think it's 100, 200?
00:15:46.920 It's probably like 60.
00:15:49.320 I don't know.
00:15:49.900 It's probably not that high.
00:15:51.040 I don't really go on it too much.
00:15:52.760 Okay.
00:15:53.500 All right.
00:15:54.000 Let's take a look at her next one.
00:15:58.840 All right.
00:15:59.480 So, guys, keep in mind, by the way, you need to charge your cell phone.
00:16:03.100 I just want to let you know.
00:16:03.480 Oh, my God.
00:16:03.780 Yeah, I do.
00:16:06.060 Guys, we're going to ask you, once we're done going through all her prompts and photos,
00:16:13.100 are you swiping yes or are you swiping no?
00:16:15.240 So, okay, you should leave a comment if you cannot or you can make me laugh nonstop.
00:16:21.760 Okay.
00:16:23.060 Is that very important to you?
00:16:25.060 Humor.
00:16:25.680 Humor.
00:16:25.960 I really like a guy who can make me laugh or we have similar humor.
00:16:29.420 That's very important to me.
00:16:30.660 Similar humor.
00:16:31.520 Yes.
00:16:31.800 What is your humor?
00:16:33.260 Probably dark humor or dirty humor.
00:16:35.920 I have a dirty mind.
00:16:37.540 You have a dirty mind?
00:16:38.500 Yes.
00:16:38.900 Tell us about your dirty mind while we're at it.
00:16:41.240 Well, it's, I just do like to, like, make sexual jokes.
00:16:44.540 Feet and Cheeks donated $50.
00:16:46.980 Chelsea isn't interested in my success.
00:16:49.600 The rest of the ladies, I'm successful, disease-free, 5'8", Latino, 162 pounds.
00:16:57.080 And aside from owning these RVs all over the South, who'd want to go out for a cup of coffee
00:17:01.600 with me, would you guys swipe right on me?
00:17:05.240 No, you're 5'8".
00:17:06.620 Wow.
00:17:09.140 Cheeks, I'm sorry, man.
00:17:10.500 She's 5'11", though.
00:17:11.640 She's quite tall.
00:17:13.380 What about you guys?
00:17:14.960 Would you swipe on Cheeks?
00:17:16.520 Obviously, you don't see his photo, but what he described.
00:17:20.820 I mean, I'd have to know his personality more, but I can't say yes or no yet.
00:17:25.240 I want to know the benefit of the doubt.
00:17:26.900 Maybe, like, we need a photo or something, you think?
00:17:29.120 No, I just need to know more about him.
00:17:30.740 He just...
00:17:31.260 He needs to drop some more...
00:17:32.880 His name's kind of, like...
00:17:34.180 Beating Cheeks?
00:17:34.780 Yeah, it's a little interesting.
00:17:36.120 It's a little out there?
00:17:37.720 Yeah.
00:17:38.260 Yeah, I think, Cheeks, you might have to step up the dark and dirty humor to impress Sarah
00:17:44.180 over here.
00:17:44.680 What about you?
00:17:45.100 Would you swipe on him?
00:17:46.500 No, I'd need to see a photo.
00:17:48.100 Okay, all right.
00:17:48.940 Her name's Sam, though.
00:17:50.380 Yes.
00:17:50.940 You said Sarah.
00:17:52.340 I said Sarah?
00:17:52.980 Yeah.
00:17:53.320 Did I?
00:17:53.780 Yeah.
00:17:54.900 It's okay.
00:17:55.720 Oh, excuse me, Elizabeth.
00:17:56.640 My bad.
00:17:57.320 That's pretty good.
00:17:58.540 Hold on.
00:17:59.460 I just...
00:17:59.820 I need to apologize.
00:18:01.340 I'd like to take this chance to apologize.
00:18:03.100 I need you second belt.
00:18:04.520 Absolutely nobody.
00:18:06.880 Okay.
00:18:08.580 Here, let's keep...
00:18:09.120 Thanks, Alex.
00:18:09.600 Let's keep...
00:18:10.360 Of course.
00:18:11.100 Let's keep it moving.
00:18:12.260 Can you pull it back up, Eric?
00:18:15.360 Okay.
00:18:15.920 So, you can make me laugh non-stop.
00:18:18.360 Mm-hmm.
00:18:18.940 Okay.
00:18:20.620 Laughter.
00:18:21.580 Okay.
00:18:21.920 And if a guy is not funny, is that just a deal breaker for you?
00:18:25.920 No.
00:18:26.420 I mean, if he laughs at my jokes, I won't...
00:18:27.940 Eric, can you close the door?
00:18:28.840 I won't really care.
00:18:29.620 Like, if he thinks I'm funny, then I don't really care.
00:18:33.080 Okay.
00:18:33.780 If he thinks you're funny...
00:18:35.480 Yes.
00:18:35.880 ...would you say you're funny?
00:18:36.980 Yes.
00:18:38.120 Okay.
00:18:39.060 Mm-hmm.
00:18:39.660 Make me laugh.
00:18:40.680 No, it has to be, like...
00:18:41.800 Organic?
00:18:42.280 Yeah, organic.
00:18:43.040 Like, something has to happen, and then I have to, like, feed off that.
00:18:45.600 Okay.
00:18:46.140 Yes.
00:18:47.280 Next one, Eric.
00:18:47.960 Go ahead.
00:18:50.080 Okay.
00:18:51.440 Eighteen from Santa Barbara.
00:18:53.760 Other political orientation.
00:18:55.160 Are you, like, an anarcho-communist?
00:19:00.000 Yes.
00:19:00.480 No, I'm just kidding.
00:19:01.120 Okay.
00:19:01.840 I just have, like, very, like, beliefs everywhere.
00:19:05.480 Like, I kind of, like...
00:19:06.540 I don't want to, like, put myself to, like, a certain group, because I kind of believe in a lot of things.
00:19:10.920 Sure.
00:19:11.380 Okay.
00:19:12.900 Next one, Eric.
00:19:14.840 You...
00:19:15.780 Yes to drinking.
00:19:18.060 Sometimes smoke.
00:19:19.560 Sometimes do marijuana.
00:19:21.060 And I think you omitted your drug use, because on Hinge, there's a thing for drug use.
00:19:25.700 So I'm just going to assume that you do methamphetamine and heroin.
00:19:29.640 No, I don't, sadly.
00:19:31.020 Oh, okay.
00:19:32.080 Darn.
00:19:33.460 Okay.
00:19:34.020 Next one.
00:19:35.300 Next one.
00:19:36.240 Okay.
00:19:36.900 Here's another photo of Sam.
00:19:40.760 Music, my friends, art, and food.
00:19:42.280 Next.
00:19:44.420 Another photo.
00:19:45.500 Okay.
00:19:45.800 Next.
00:19:47.420 Oh, okay.
00:19:48.260 I think that was...
00:19:48.900 Was that it?
00:19:49.400 There was another one, but it was, like, the one where I was, like, dating me.
00:19:55.180 Oh, is that...
00:19:56.340 Shit.
00:19:57.140 Eric, can you try to find that in the folder?
00:20:01.320 Pull it on the screen over here so we can see it, so we'll pull it up.
00:20:05.400 But while Eric does that, chat, do you...
00:20:10.280 No, no, no.
00:20:11.360 Pull it over here, Eric.
00:20:13.200 What, the folder?
00:20:13.860 Yeah, the folder, so I can see which one it is.
00:20:15.660 You're not going to know which one it is.
00:20:17.220 How, what?
00:20:17.580 No, just leave the OBS window where it is and just get rid of always on top.
00:20:23.560 So, guys, yes or no, do you go for Sam?
00:20:27.700 She does do heroin, guys, so...
00:20:30.340 Don't out me.
00:20:31.260 That's a secret.
00:20:31.880 Oh, I'm sorry.
00:20:32.800 I'm sorry.
00:20:33.480 Just...
00:20:33.780 Okay, she just says math.
00:20:35.160 Oh, download folder.
00:20:36.520 Can you hide that, Eric?
00:20:37.100 Steven Krug superchatted $50.
00:20:39.240 Hide the folder, yeah.
00:20:40.500 Oh, yo, Steven Krug.
00:20:42.560 Thank you, man.
00:20:42.980 Appreciate it.
00:20:43.520 I guess you didn't attach a superchat to that, but go to the download folder, Eric.
00:20:49.920 Yeah.
00:20:52.040 So, there's one missing.
00:20:53.280 Can you just click on the...
00:20:55.700 Which one?
00:20:56.180 The top one.
00:20:57.360 Which one?
00:20:57.700 There's actually, like, two more missing, but it's those two top ones.
00:21:01.720 To the right.
00:21:02.960 That one and the other one to the right of it.
00:21:05.180 Sorry, guys.
00:21:08.340 We are obviously a professional operation here.
00:21:11.280 Are you sure this is it?
00:21:12.380 That one, yeah.
00:21:13.220 Yeah, yeah.
00:21:13.580 Pull it over, Eric.
00:21:14.560 Okay, let's...
00:21:15.980 You can minimize this.
00:21:19.460 Yeah.
00:21:19.880 All right.
00:21:20.260 Pull it up.
00:21:20.920 Oh, hold on, actually.
00:21:21.860 Steven Krug superchatted $50.
00:21:24.840 A cheese factory exploded in France.
00:21:27.800 Debris is everywhere.
00:21:29.460 Hey, Steven Krug.
00:21:30.500 Thank you, man.
00:21:31.020 Appreciate the superchat.
00:21:32.720 Merci beaucoup.
00:21:33.280 Let me see if I can translate this to French.
00:21:36.380 Le fromage...
00:21:37.300 I don't know how to say factory in French.
00:21:39.860 Exploder en France.
00:21:41.420 Debris et a toute la place.
00:21:45.400 Okay, that's my poor French skills.
00:21:48.120 Thank you, Steven.
00:21:49.020 Appreciate it.
00:21:50.440 Eric, can you pull it up?
00:21:53.180 Next one.
00:21:54.900 So, you said there's one...
00:21:56.100 Okay, dating me is, like, chaotic.
00:21:57.980 Why is dating you, like, chaotic?
00:22:00.240 I think I'm just, like, really fun and spontaneous.
00:22:03.660 So, like, I feel like if you date me, there'd be a lot of things happening.
00:22:07.840 Not in a bad way.
00:22:08.860 Like, in the best way possible.
00:22:11.340 Okay.
00:22:11.860 The best type of chaotic.
00:22:15.460 Give me an example of the chaos.
00:22:19.360 Actually, before you do that...
00:22:20.920 No, actually, go ahead.
00:22:21.680 Go ahead.
00:22:23.340 I don't know.
00:22:23.980 Like, any, like, example...
00:22:25.000 Okay, you and Liv are dating for three months.
00:22:28.660 How are you going to make her life miserable?
00:22:31.160 No, but I don't want to make her life miserable.
00:22:32.380 Oh, I mean, excuse me, chaotic.
00:22:33.360 Yeah.
00:22:33.840 Okay.
00:22:34.920 I don't know.
00:22:35.620 I'd probably, like, surprise her and we, like, go do something fun.
00:22:38.880 Like, buy her, like, a concert ticket for her favorite person.
00:22:42.000 And then we'll just go, like, last minute.
00:22:44.240 Go have a good time.
00:22:45.780 Treat her well, you know?
00:22:46.840 Okay.
00:22:48.460 Well, I mean, I'm not sure if that's chaotic.
00:22:50.940 Perhaps the...
00:22:51.940 If it's very last minute, perhaps.
00:22:53.520 But, okay, cool.
00:22:57.480 By the way, guys, one in the chat.
00:23:01.820 Actually, never mind.
00:23:03.640 Okay.
00:23:04.300 Did they vote, by the way?
00:23:06.120 Did I have them vote?
00:23:07.120 Yeah, you did.
00:23:07.760 What was the consensus?
00:23:09.480 Somebody said it wouldn't convince them.
00:23:12.680 It's not chaotic.
00:23:14.500 Guys, when you're looking for a girl...
00:23:18.080 And I actually want to open the panel up to this.
00:23:20.400 Is chaos typically a thing you're looking for from a partner?
00:23:27.760 I've gotten a lot of reactions to that certain thing of some people being, like, oh, like, let me get some of that chaos or, like...
00:23:35.120 Ruined my life.
00:23:35.820 Like, I love chaotic and, like, chaoticness.
00:23:38.180 I wouldn't say I'm, like, actually that much of a chaotic...
00:23:40.360 Yeah, you seem pretty mellow.
00:23:41.420 Yeah, no, I'm not.
00:23:42.180 But I said that to attract people.
00:23:43.780 You're lying.
00:23:44.560 You're misrepresenting.
00:23:44.780 I am a little lying, but I wanted to attract people because, like, you know, a lot of guys do like that.
00:23:50.380 Like, they, like, say they don't, but they, like, they really do.
00:23:53.620 I feel like it makes your life interesting.
00:23:55.540 But I'm kind of, like...
00:23:57.180 Erroneous.
00:23:58.240 Wait, go ahead.
00:23:59.560 I said I feel like it makes your life interesting.
00:24:02.780 The guy's life?
00:24:04.220 Spices it up.
00:24:04.280 Both parties.
00:24:04.940 Okay, I can tell you right now, we...
00:24:08.480 What men are looking for out of relationships is not...
00:24:11.860 We want peace.
00:24:13.700 That's the biggest thing.
00:24:14.660 If you can bring your guy peace, he'll stay by your side.
00:24:18.860 But then he'll get bored.
00:24:19.760 No, he won't.
00:24:20.380 Trust me.
00:24:21.640 We don't...
00:24:22.140 I've brought in peace to guys and they've gotten...
00:24:25.140 Like, they got bored of me and they cheated on me.
00:24:27.440 Or, like, they would do...
00:24:28.120 Like, and they just wouldn't, like...
00:24:29.660 I was very peaceful.
00:24:30.800 I brought so much peace to you guys and...
00:24:32.600 How's the chaos working out?
00:24:33.940 Well, I actually don't use chaos.
00:24:35.840 But I...
00:24:36.200 Maybe I...
00:24:36.680 I put it because I'm, like...
00:24:37.660 Maybe I'm, like, just gonna start using chaos.
00:24:39.880 Because apparently the peace doesn't work.
00:24:42.080 Well, I'll say this.
00:24:42.940 A guy who has nothing going on, I suppose he might welcome the excitement.
00:24:51.500 But men who are, like, actually trying to do something with their lives, who have...
00:24:57.440 Who live stressful lives, the last thing they want is to go home and have to contend
00:25:03.020 with a combative and chaotic woman.
00:25:07.500 Like, the biggest thing...
00:25:08.860 One of the top things I think women can bring to a guy is peace.
00:25:13.140 Yeah, I think it goes both ways, too.
00:25:14.820 Like, for...
00:25:15.160 Sure.
00:25:15.460 Of course.
00:25:15.480 I think that's, like, what you want in a relationship, period.
00:25:17.480 Of course.
00:25:18.180 Like, a good, safe place.
00:25:19.360 Like, a person to look at and be, like, that's home.
00:25:21.840 That's peace.
00:25:23.000 There's my sanctuary.
00:25:24.240 You know, I totally agree with that.
00:25:25.820 Yeah, it's just...
00:25:27.040 If you're dating a guy, for example, if he has a really stressful job, he wants...
00:25:32.740 He doesn't want to go home or have his...
00:25:36.260 He doesn't want to have stress also with his partner.
00:25:39.080 He wants someone where it's just stress-free and it's just all chill and mellow.
00:25:43.220 But you think some guys like it?
00:25:45.600 I just feel like it makes life fun.
00:25:48.560 How would you make it fun?
00:25:49.620 Well, she said that, like, chaos.
00:25:51.360 Hold on.
00:25:52.020 M. Martin super chatted $50.
00:25:54.900 Samantha, two questions.
00:25:57.240 Why in the hell are you posing next to a gas pump?
00:26:00.540 Do you know what jet fuel costs for a G600?
00:26:03.220 No, I don't drive, so I wouldn't.
00:26:05.100 Yeah, she doesn't have her license.
00:26:06.180 I don't have my license, so I wouldn't know how much it costs.
00:26:09.660 Yeah.
00:26:10.060 Why don't you have your license?
00:26:11.300 It's bad.
00:26:11.920 Probably because I have my own fears about driving.
00:26:14.980 But, like, I push it off too much, like, trying to get it.
00:26:18.740 And it, like, angers all my friends.
00:26:20.360 They're all, like, you need to get your license.
00:26:22.020 Beat and Cheeks donated $50.
00:26:24.440 The peaceful and non-chaotic a woman is, the better a relationship will be.
00:26:29.060 Good head upon coming home and waking up, too, is what men really want.
00:26:32.980 And women with great dental hygiene.
00:26:35.220 Also, quit lying on your apps, ladies.
00:26:37.940 Be honest about yourselves.
00:26:39.480 Okay, I'm sorry.
00:26:40.780 Start being honest about your height on these apps.
00:26:43.940 Oh.
00:26:44.720 I mean, I've seen a lot of people lying about their height on apps.
00:26:48.560 Yeah.
00:26:49.320 Okay.
00:26:50.360 I think it's...
00:26:51.120 And I think it has both ways.
00:26:52.360 I think women do it, too.
00:26:54.420 It's way...
00:26:55.040 Women lie way more on dating apps than men.
00:26:57.360 About what?
00:26:57.740 What makes you say that?
00:27:00.100 What makes me say that?
00:27:01.260 Yeah, what makes you say that?
00:27:02.100 Okay, two things.
00:27:04.820 Filters and makeup.
00:27:08.120 Makeup's lying?
00:27:09.000 Makeup is the most accepted lie in society.
00:27:13.540 I'm not...
00:27:14.020 So do you think, like, also, like, dyeing your hair an unnatural color is lying?
00:27:18.180 I suppose it is, yes.
00:27:19.440 Okay.
00:27:20.320 So reshaping your body and, like, working out and giving yourself tone muscles, that's also
00:27:24.720 changing your appearance.
00:27:25.960 That's not...
00:27:26.440 That's not a lie, though.
00:27:27.540 That's...
00:27:28.640 You're actually making a change.
00:27:30.400 You're accentuating your body.
00:27:32.280 You're conflating exercising and getting fit to make up something that can be put on and
00:27:39.500 removed.
00:27:40.060 Couldn't you compare your beard to makeup since it hides your jawline?
00:27:43.220 That's so true.
00:27:43.700 Yeah, that is true.
00:27:46.020 No.
00:27:46.460 No, not really.
00:27:47.480 How come?
00:27:47.800 It's definitely different.
00:27:50.680 How come?
00:27:51.200 How is it different?
00:27:51.880 Because when you see him in public, he's going to have it.
00:27:53.860 Like, and if he does take it off, it's going to grow back as a part of him.
00:27:58.100 Whereas, like, we choose when we want to put on and take off makeup.
00:28:01.680 I don't know.
00:28:02.080 Maybe I'm going to...
00:28:02.300 I mean, but, like, you can choose when you want to take off a beard or not.
00:28:05.340 It's changing your appearance.
00:28:07.480 It's totally different, though.
00:28:08.720 But, yeah, because you contour your face to look a certain way, whereas you can't tell
00:28:14.080 your beard to grow a certain way.
00:28:15.640 Well, you can shave it a certain way.
00:28:17.180 Yeah.
00:28:17.200 Like, you can shave it.
00:28:18.240 Like, I know many guys, like, do certain haircuts or, like, beard shaping just to,
00:28:23.360 like, get a certain defined jawline, like, to make their appearance look different.
00:28:28.480 So you're comparing a beard to makeup?
00:28:33.240 Not directly.
00:28:34.400 I'm not saying they're the same thing.
00:28:35.740 I'm just saying you probably having that beard makes you a little bit more flattering
00:28:40.760 looking in the same way that makeup might make a woman look more flattering.
00:28:47.140 I sort of see what you're saying.
00:28:50.280 Certainly, some men, the beard can help shape the jawline a bit.
00:28:58.980 But I do want to bring it back to the original point of, you know, you said that men lie about
00:29:04.500 their height on dating apps.
00:29:06.220 And I said, well, I think women lie more, and that's through makeup and through filters.
00:29:11.540 But why do guys have such an issue with makeup?
00:29:13.760 Wouldn't they want something that makes, like, their girl or their girlfriend that look better?
00:29:17.640 Like, wouldn't they?
00:29:18.020 Well, let's ask the chat.
00:29:19.480 Chat.
00:29:21.700 Do you prefer girls without makeup or with?
00:29:24.820 So, with makeup, without makeup.
00:29:28.440 With makeup, without makeup.
00:29:31.040 You can also do one in the chat for no makeup, two in the chat without makeup.
00:29:37.180 One in the chat for no makeup.
00:29:41.900 Two in the chat for with.
00:29:45.420 Or without with, whatever.
00:29:46.840 Okay.
00:29:47.680 Um, I'm seeing a lot of without.
00:29:50.220 But, but.
00:29:50.740 I feel like a lot of guys, when they say without, there's, like, a no makeup makeup look.
00:29:54.880 That's natural.
00:29:55.880 When you say without, I think what they're thinking is, like, overdone, super cakey.
00:30:00.520 It's, like, a lot of eyeshadow, giant lashes.
00:30:03.420 But, like, I think just having, you know, even, yeah, light touches of makeup isn't something they would prefer.
00:30:12.020 No, I think it.
00:30:12.560 They just don't realize it's makeup.
00:30:13.320 I don't think they, like, notice that that's makeup.
00:30:15.220 Because guys can't really tell, like, what, what is makeup and what's not.
00:30:18.660 I mean, obviously, if it's really heavy on, you're going to be able to tell.
00:30:21.660 But, like, if it's something light and natural looking, I feel like there's no harm in that.
00:30:26.420 Well, I mean, you're certainly free to do whatever you want.
00:30:29.160 But I would say, generally speaking, men don't.
00:30:31.520 We'd actually prefer women to not wear makeup.
00:30:35.960 My last boyfriend loved makeup.
00:30:38.920 He wore it?
00:30:40.300 No, he loved when I wore makeup.
00:30:42.460 And that's totally fine.
00:30:43.480 I'm not saying that it's the case for all men.
00:30:45.140 But most men, like, we don't really care.
00:30:48.380 And I think there's degrees to it.
00:30:50.260 Like, okay, you wear a little mascara or you wear a little eyeliner or whatever.
00:30:54.060 But, like, I think when guys, most guys definitely will start being like,
00:30:58.040 it's a bit much when it's, like, caked on, full face, foundation, et cetera, et cetera.
00:31:02.960 So, me personally, I've, like, oh, hold on.
00:31:06.620 M. Martin super chatted $50.
00:31:09.680 I'm six feet one inch, so I'm just arguing for the short kings out there.
00:31:15.340 Ladies, makeup, extensions, eyelashes, lip fillers, implants, barrels, high heels.
00:31:23.060 That's all changing appearance.
00:31:25.380 He is dishonest.
00:31:26.820 A beard is the natural state of a man's face.
00:31:30.120 Makeup is not.
00:31:30.980 Thank you, Martin, for the assist.
00:31:34.880 Appreciate you, man.
00:31:35.640 Do you guys have a response?
00:31:36.600 Oh, hold on.
00:31:37.180 Dank Nick donated $50.
00:31:39.520 Men may lie about height and how rich they are,
00:31:42.140 but women lie about how good they look in their way.
00:31:45.040 Makeup gets washed off.
00:31:46.740 Men have to deal with maintaining a beard.
00:31:49.140 Mess up trimming and may as well shave.
00:31:54.160 Word?
00:31:55.040 Did you guys have a response to anything that was said in the TTSs?
00:32:04.220 I don't think that women wearing makeup is, like, generally always for men.
00:32:10.500 Well, I didn't say that, but what we were talking about is one of you mentioned that,
00:32:14.680 and this was just in response to what one of you said.
00:32:16.980 You said that men lie about their height,
00:32:19.780 and I said, well, women lie about makeup and,
00:32:25.720 well, they lie about their appearance through makeup and filters,
00:32:28.800 but why don't we start first with filters?
00:32:31.940 Can you at least agree that using filters on a dating app is disingenuous?
00:32:35.900 Yes.
00:32:36.660 Because that, you can say what you will about makeup
00:32:39.340 because you can wear makeup in real life.
00:32:41.520 However, filters, Photoshop, that Facetune, that does not exist in real life.
00:32:47.540 Can we agree with that at least?
00:32:48.660 Okay, sure.
00:32:50.060 And I definitely see a lot of girls use filters on dating apps.
00:32:54.160 Yeah, I do see that too.
00:32:55.380 Yeah, and some guys do it too.
00:32:57.240 Honestly, be careful of the guys that use face filters
00:32:59.560 because them motherfuckers crazy.
00:33:03.000 But I think that, yeah, face filters,
00:33:06.800 and it's really bad if they don't have at least one photo
00:33:09.520 that's without a face filter, I think.
00:33:11.980 I think that's exceptionally bad.
00:33:14.440 I want to ask you guys your thought on this quote.
00:33:17.420 A man's face is his autobiography,
00:33:20.900 and a woman's face is her work of fiction.
00:33:24.140 Agree or disagree?
00:33:25.740 I think that's a stupid quote.
00:33:28.180 Why is that?
00:33:30.180 Because why is it that deep?
00:33:33.160 What do you mean why is it that deep?
00:33:34.560 If you take it literally.
00:33:39.620 I think it's just dumb.
00:33:41.220 Why is that?
00:33:42.980 Because a work of fiction,
00:33:46.060 like if you're perceiving makeup and a woman's looks as a lie
00:33:50.140 because she changes or she adds makeup to her face,
00:33:54.120 that's just weird because why are you thinking makeup is a lie?
00:33:58.160 Like if your face is a canvas and you put like makeup on it,
00:34:01.860 you're just enhancing or adding features that are already there.
00:34:06.240 If you put makeup on an ugly bitch,
00:34:09.940 like she's still going to look ugly just like with makeup.
00:34:13.840 Yes!
00:34:15.280 That's awesome!
00:34:17.740 Well, and I think there's obviously degrees to makeup, right?
00:34:21.920 Like if you're just wearing a bit of eyeliner,
00:34:24.100 a bit of eyeshadow or mascara,
00:34:27.220 that's different than like,
00:34:29.060 I mean, you do makeup, right?
00:34:30.820 I do hair.
00:34:31.420 Oh, you do hair.
00:34:32.060 Okay.
00:34:32.260 Just a full-on beat down of like that brow pomade from 2016 type of cut crease glitter.
00:34:39.760 I think that's what they're thinking of when they talk about makeup.
00:34:42.180 Yeah.
00:34:42.760 Like when you hug them, your face comes off on their jacket.
00:34:45.680 Someone in the chat was like,
00:34:46.840 if they leave makeup on my pillow, it's a no.
00:34:51.060 Yeah, definitely.
00:34:52.040 Like, I mean, the big thing for me is if they like get their makeup all over the bed
00:34:56.060 or their pillow or my pillow rather.
00:34:58.880 And if you like kiss a girl and that shit rubs off on you,
00:35:02.260 I don't know, son.
00:35:05.040 That's...
00:35:05.480 Like the lipstick or like the actual makeup?
00:35:07.360 Lipstick, but like the powder, if it's on her face, it'll like...
00:35:09.460 Like that will rub off on you?
00:35:10.000 Yeah, rub off on me.
00:35:11.220 I've definitely had that before.
00:35:12.680 Hmm.
00:35:13.540 So I'm preempting...
00:35:15.780 Yo, Derek, I'm preempting this TTS that's going to come through.
00:35:18.540 Eric, while we wait for that, can you...
00:35:20.400 On the other...
00:35:21.960 I want you to try to pull up...
00:35:23.440 I had this pulled up a while ago.
00:35:25.160 It was this article with like women who had makeup
00:35:28.120 and like the transformation that happened.
00:35:29.940 Um, Eric, if you just open another tab in the other window
00:35:35.300 and just type in makeup, it might autocomplete.
00:35:39.120 Let me know if you get it.
00:35:40.800 Um, I don't know if this is going to come up though.
00:35:43.940 Uh, did you see it, Eric?
00:35:46.780 No.
00:35:47.500 Shit.
00:35:48.140 Um, I'm trying to remember what it was.
00:35:50.640 Um, maybe look up...
00:35:53.160 I'll try to pull it up later.
00:35:57.400 Um, but basically, it was photos like before and after photos
00:36:02.080 and the women looked like totally different.
00:36:05.380 Totally different.
00:36:06.760 So, it is a lie.
00:36:12.720 Because that's not how you actually look.
00:36:15.060 I don't think the average girl is beating her face that hard.
00:36:17.820 Yeah.
00:36:18.600 Like that's some big transformation.
00:36:21.040 Hi to Derek.
00:36:21.680 Derek Manx, one super chatted $49.99.
00:36:25.620 Thank you, Derek.
00:36:26.740 Appreciate it.
00:36:27.140 Being a man that is considered in the top 2% of men,
00:36:30.320 why would I need to accept drama?
00:36:32.620 As well, I don't care about your makeup, nails, or shoes.
00:36:36.300 Are you going treat me with respect and be respectable as a wife should be?
00:36:41.680 I have a question.
00:36:42.940 Yeah.
00:36:43.220 What makes him the top 2%?
00:36:45.800 Well, my understanding, from what I know about...
00:36:49.020 I don't care about your alpha behavior.
00:36:50.580 I don't...
00:36:51.360 Well, me and Derek, I know Derek, and he owns, like, at least seven oil derricks in the Texas
00:37:04.900 area.
00:37:06.140 He's an oil man.
00:37:07.440 And so he just flies out on the helicopters, lands on the oil derricks, extracts that shit.
00:37:14.140 But how is he as a person?
00:37:14.780 He's a wealthy individual.
00:37:16.260 Like, what makes him, like...
00:37:17.580 Because I feel like that...
00:37:18.380 Where is he getting that 2% number?
00:37:19.960 Yeah.
00:37:20.500 2% of wealth?
00:37:22.200 Socioeconomic status.
00:37:23.180 Okay.
00:37:23.600 Yeah.
00:37:24.140 But, like, that's not all what girls look for.
00:37:26.160 Like, that's not...
00:37:26.680 Sure.
00:37:26.940 There's other things.
00:37:27.760 Yeah.
00:37:28.260 Yeah.
00:37:28.560 He also has a badass beard.
00:37:31.180 Like, have you seen...
00:37:32.420 Have any of you seen Game of Thrones?
00:37:34.140 Yes.
00:37:34.340 You know, Tormund, the big guy with the red hair and the beard.
00:37:39.860 He's like...
00:37:40.340 I think he's...
00:37:41.140 Is he Finnish?
00:37:43.220 I don't know.
00:37:43.800 But...
00:37:44.640 Oh, there he is.
00:37:45.280 There's a photo of him.
00:37:46.200 Yeah, look at that Chad.
00:37:47.240 Look at those guys.
00:37:49.500 Oh, Eric, they're gonna probably roast Derek.
00:37:54.800 Yeah, see?
00:37:55.440 He's got the Tormund's beard.
00:37:56.820 Okay, let's move it on.
00:37:57.700 He does.
00:37:57.840 He does have that beard.
00:37:59.860 Okay.
00:38:01.220 Eric, were you able to find the makeup?
00:38:04.700 No.
00:38:05.140 Really?
00:38:05.540 It should have auto...
00:38:07.140 Okay.
00:38:12.520 All right.
00:38:13.460 Well, let's get back to the dating app review here before the girls get too pissed off at
00:38:18.260 me about the makeup stuff.
00:38:22.920 Go ahead, Eric.
00:38:25.600 You can close out the ones that we opened with Sam.
00:38:28.940 All right.
00:38:33.900 We now have Fiona.
00:38:35.960 Fiona has 15 pending likes.
00:38:38.520 She's very popular.
00:38:39.580 Next.
00:38:43.000 Okay.
00:38:43.740 She's actually legitimately bad at caring.
00:38:47.360 Okay.
00:38:47.900 Can you just explain that one a little bit?
00:38:50.180 Yeah.
00:38:50.420 Um, I'm a nihilist, so I reject all religion and morals.
00:38:55.520 I'm kidding.
00:38:56.780 I'm kidding.
00:38:57.940 Okay.
00:38:58.280 It's really that I just, I don't really take the dating apps too seriously.
00:39:03.240 I mean, kind of the nonchalant demeanor that I bring to the table.
00:39:08.620 Okay.
00:39:09.180 But I do care.
00:39:10.360 You do care.
00:39:11.320 In certain ways.
00:39:12.280 In certain ways.
00:39:12.880 You know, I care about my family.
00:39:13.780 I care about my friends.
00:39:16.180 It's the attitude.
00:39:17.280 What do you not care about?
00:39:19.500 Um.
00:39:20.740 Oh, hold on.
00:39:22.320 High voltage sign.
00:39:24.040 Lord Blitz.
00:39:25.080 High voltage sign.
00:39:26.460 Oh, God.
00:39:27.140 Super chatted $49.99.
00:39:30.660 Question.
00:39:31.660 Why do women wear makeup in the first place?
00:39:34.380 For themselves or others?
00:39:36.320 Go ahead, Sam.
00:39:36.820 For themselves.
00:39:37.800 Why?
00:39:38.420 I think it's, um, mainly for themselves.
00:39:40.540 Well, I don't know.
00:39:41.060 I want to speak on all women because, like, that's not my place.
00:39:43.660 But I would say for me personally, it's for myself.
00:39:46.360 If, like, I need more of, like, a confidence boost or, you know, like, you're just, a lot
00:39:51.360 of times for girls, I know this works for my friends too, like, makeup can be therapy
00:39:55.300 where you're just having, like, a really bad day.
00:39:57.620 And for your own, like, want, you do, like, new makeup looks for fun.
00:40:01.340 And it's just not really, like, something I do for the, for men.
00:40:06.140 Keep going.
00:40:06.720 Don't worry.
00:40:07.220 The screen's going to go black for a sec.
00:40:08.680 Go ahead.
00:40:10.160 Um, about the makeup thing?
00:40:12.560 Yeah.
00:40:13.560 Oh.
00:40:14.240 Um, I think makeup, you know, it can come from, it can stem from insecurity for sure.
00:40:18.920 I mean, girls that wear a lot of foundation might have acne that they're trying to cover
00:40:22.220 up.
00:40:22.520 And I respect them trying to, like, people do get bullied for acne and stuff.
00:40:26.860 So, if they want to cover that up, that's kind of their decision.
00:40:30.180 I think it's also a way to have fun with it.
00:40:31.980 I mean, people make careers on TikTok because of making awesome makeup things.
00:40:35.840 I don't think it's something to take that seriously.
00:40:38.860 I don't think it's something to have a huge problem with.
00:40:41.680 I mean, there are definitely girls who don't wear makeup.
00:40:44.520 So, if you want a girl that doesn't wear makeup, you can find that.
00:40:47.700 Yep.
00:40:48.360 Go ahead.
00:40:49.560 Um, I think what Sam said, it's, like, relaxing.
00:40:53.860 I find it therapeutic and it's really fun to, like, get ready for the day.
00:40:58.500 It, like, starts my day for me.
00:41:00.080 Mm-hmm.
00:41:00.480 And, like, sometimes.
00:41:01.520 Can I have you tilt the microphone down towards you?
00:41:03.400 Sorry.
00:41:04.020 You're fine.
00:41:05.520 Pull it from the back.
00:41:07.200 There you go.
00:41:07.660 Go ahead.
00:41:08.360 Um.
00:41:11.120 Wait, what was the question?
00:41:12.720 The makeup.
00:41:14.220 If, why you like wearing it.
00:41:15.660 Do you think it's for men?
00:41:16.300 Like, is it for men?
00:41:17.180 Oh, no.
00:41:17.680 I don't wear it for men.
00:41:19.660 I, like, I don't know.
00:41:20.740 Sometimes maybe I'll, like, wake up with, like, bags under my eyes.
00:41:23.780 And, like, before I go to class, I'll, like, just put some concealer under.
00:41:27.140 I feel like it just, it's, like, for myself.
00:41:30.120 Okay.
00:41:30.720 Yeah.
00:41:32.800 Um, I have the same thing where it's just for me.
00:41:36.400 I will go to one class with no makeup or, like, the next day I could show up with makeup.
00:41:41.840 It's just about whether I wanted to put it on that day or not.
00:41:45.140 And also, like, sometimes it's just fun.
00:41:48.060 Like, it matches my outfit.
00:41:50.060 Or, like, it's, like, a Valentine's Day look or something like that.
00:41:53.960 It's just enjoyable.
00:41:54.940 And it can add a lot and show a lot about your personality, I think.
00:42:01.100 Okay.
00:42:03.000 I mean, yeah.
00:42:03.700 Generally, same concept of it's just I like to do it for myself.
00:42:07.400 I mean, some days I don't, like, wear any makeup at all.
00:42:10.780 And it's nice and I feel good about myself.
00:42:13.540 And I can wear the makeup the next day and feel just as good.
00:42:16.400 Go ahead.
00:42:18.720 Um.
00:42:21.180 Hold on.
00:42:22.060 Hey, Martin superchatted $50.
00:42:23.900 Thank you, Martin.
00:42:24.780 Ladies, high-status men are accomplished, intelligent, successful, witty, charming, strong in stature,
00:42:32.720 gifted in several realms of human indivour, desired by a large percentage of women,
00:42:38.300 and envied by a large portion of men.
00:42:40.860 And it's 1%, not 2%.
00:42:43.500 Oh, shots fired at Derek there.
00:42:45.260 Okay.
00:42:45.700 Hey, Martin, thank you, man.
00:42:46.660 Appreciate the superchat.
00:42:48.240 Go ahead.
00:42:49.700 Um.
00:42:50.260 I like to wear makeup to accentuate my features.
00:42:53.220 I think I have really beautiful eyes.
00:42:55.020 Um.
00:42:55.300 So, that's why I like doing a nice winged eyeliner and a lash.
00:42:58.980 But some days, you know, I don't feel like wearing makeup at all.
00:43:02.860 And, um, you know, I've been, like I said earlier on in the introduction,
00:43:07.180 um, I've been with my boyfriend for two years and he likes me with or without.
00:43:10.380 And honestly, it doesn't, it doesn't really matter if you wear makeup or not
00:43:14.980 because you're going to be picked down anyways, clearly from the chat.
00:43:18.580 You know what I mean?
00:43:19.360 So, why not do what you want to do?
00:43:22.300 People are going to criticize you anyways.
00:43:23.880 So, it really doesn't matter.
00:43:25.780 Liv?
00:43:26.780 I feel like I wear makeup somewhat for myself, but mostly I work in the beauty industry.
00:43:33.700 If I'm going to show up to work and I'm selling beauty, I'm doing somebody's hair,
00:43:37.640 they're not, if I don't look put together, they're going to probably look at me different.
00:43:43.240 Like, okay, then what are you offering?
00:43:44.880 And if I have no means to wear makeup, I'm not going to wear it.
00:43:48.500 And that's my personal, that's my personal opinion.
00:43:52.280 But, um, yeah, I mean, I don't mind makeup.
00:43:56.460 I'm not a fan because my skin is sensitive.
00:43:58.780 I'm wearing it right now because I felt like I'd put myself together.
00:44:02.940 But my skin is sensitive, so if I wear makeup, it usually will cause it to flare up.
00:44:09.400 So, um, usually I'll put it on for other people when I'm going to work, but that's about it.
00:44:16.120 Okay.
00:44:16.820 Uh, I'll give my take here after.
00:44:18.340 I think Zentience is about to, uh, come in.
00:44:20.940 The TTS seems to be a little bit delayed, but we did fix the TTS.
00:44:25.320 It will read the whole thing now.
00:44:26.800 Uh, used to, I have to finish, like, the last sentence, so I'm just preempting the, uh, TTS to come in here.
00:44:34.140 Uh, so, there we go.
00:44:37.260 Zentience super chatted.
00:44:38.580 Thank you, Zentience.
00:44:39.340 Good to see you, man.
00:44:39.980 $0.99.
00:44:41.660 Girls don't wear fake up for themselves.
00:44:44.520 If you need a confidence boost, you are looking for an external source to tell you how much you supposedly look vile-like source as TDMs.
00:44:52.540 If it was only for yourself, you wouldn't post it on public social media.
00:44:58.280 Okay, uh, your guys' response to Zentience.
00:45:01.140 Um, okay, so, a confidence boost, what I mean by that is, like, when I'm done and then I look in the mirror and I'm looking at myself and I'm not posting anything because I don't really post, like, hey, like, I just did my makeup.
00:45:11.880 It's for me to look at myself and to feel more, like, I don't know, like, if I'm having, like, not a great day or, like, something's going on, I would like that boost.
00:45:21.680 Bernito Sandriguez super chatted $50.
00:45:25.480 Brian, makeup is a feature enhancer and is not always a lie.
00:45:29.740 Women wear makeup to attract men and bolster their status.
00:45:33.900 That is true.
00:45:35.100 That doesn't mean makeup is a lie because they almost always look the same, but not as good with it often.
00:45:42.640 Okay, sure, sure.
00:45:45.540 Did you guys want to continue your responses?
00:45:48.460 I like his response a lot.
00:45:49.240 You like it?
00:45:49.640 I feel like that's, like, more of, like, a middle ground or, like, a better way of looking at it.
00:45:52.760 Well, I don't, so, I don't think that women wear makeup exclusively for men, but I don't want to think of it in, like, absolutes because someone, some women will say, I don't wear makeup for men.
00:46:03.540 But to some degree, I think women will wear makeup for a variety of reasons.
00:46:08.460 And, for example, if you go on a date, you might put on some makeup before so you can look nice and presentable for your date.
00:46:15.000 Or you might be going out to a, you might be single on the prowl and you might want to make your appearance, enhance your appearance a bit, perhaps, so that you might get a second glance from that guy.
00:46:27.900 So, I don't think women 100% wear makeup for men, but I think to say that there's no component of it, and some of you are bisexual, so perhaps you might also want to attract women, too.
00:46:40.160 So, yeah.
00:46:42.080 I wanted to see if I can find that photo really quick.
00:46:46.440 Do you guys want to give your, any further takes on makeup or respond to any of these?
00:46:53.020 I think we covered.
00:46:54.380 Okay.
00:46:56.020 I had one other thing here.
00:46:57.680 So, we'll come back to makeup if need be, but I will try to pull it up later once we react to some other stuff.
00:47:08.400 Eric, can you pull up the rest of Fiona's dating profile?
00:47:15.620 Okay.
00:47:16.240 So, you were talking about caring.
00:47:18.080 You're not a nihilist, but sort of a nihilist, apparently.
00:47:22.560 Did you thoroughly explain the whole not caring thing?
00:47:25.620 Yeah.
00:47:25.880 I was just saying that the whole caring thing is I just, I don't put too much care into the apps, the dating apps, or the dating scene as much.
00:47:35.440 Oh, yeah.
00:47:35.900 That reminds me.
00:47:36.600 Really quick question.
00:47:37.280 So, of those of you that are on dating apps, we'll go around the table.
00:47:41.320 Have you ever, have any of you met up with someone from a dating app?
00:47:45.020 Go ahead.
00:47:45.340 No, I have not.
00:47:46.900 You have not?
00:47:47.980 No, I have not.
00:47:49.060 Okay.
00:47:50.580 I've met up with someone, with someone else and their date before.
00:47:57.620 What?
00:47:57.800 And then I've also met up with people that I knew prior, and then we both matched with each other.
00:48:03.680 So, we kind of knew we liked each other, and then we met up.
00:48:06.600 Well, explain the first one.
00:48:08.000 I'm a little confused.
00:48:08.620 It was a Raya date, and he was going to his house in Tulum, and he invited us to go.
00:48:14.760 So, we went.
00:48:15.600 Us.
00:48:15.940 He had.
00:48:16.340 Invited us.
00:48:17.180 My friend had matched with him on Raya.
00:48:19.360 So, you didn't match with him?
00:48:20.480 No.
00:48:20.800 Okay.
00:48:20.880 So, he said, you two can come and come to my house in Tulum, and it'll be like a date,
00:48:25.560 but we met across the world.
00:48:28.260 And Raya is kind of like, it's sort of a celebrity.
00:48:33.400 Yeah.
00:48:33.820 Celebrities are on it, but there's regular people on it, too.
00:48:36.300 It's a bit more exclusive, though.
00:48:37.940 And so, people do.
00:48:38.960 It's not just people in your area.
00:48:40.620 So, people, you will match with people like in New York or other places.
00:48:44.740 The globalized dating marketplace.
00:48:47.480 But can't you limit it to, in the same way with the other dating apps, you can limit it
00:48:51.360 to like 20-mile radius?
00:48:52.900 I don't.
00:48:53.420 I've never been able to do that.
00:48:53.940 You can't do that on Raya?
00:48:54.540 I don't think so.
00:48:56.000 Well, in any case, okay, so you matched, he was in New York?
00:48:58.840 He was in New York, but he was going to his house in Tulum.
00:49:01.300 That's in Mexico, right?
00:49:03.060 And so, okay, you're in Santa Barbara, correct?
00:49:06.920 We were in L.A.
00:49:07.720 You were in L.A.
00:49:08.360 You matched with a guy in New York.
00:49:09.700 See, I mean, this is one of the reasons why I think dating is so fucked up is because
00:49:15.140 10, 20 years ago, if a girl lived in Idaho, her dating pool was the dudes in Idaho, in
00:49:23.940 her city.
00:49:25.280 Like, the people she worked with, her friend circle, maybe if she went to bars or clubs
00:49:29.800 or whatever.
00:49:31.080 Now it's globalized.
00:49:32.560 Now, like, even just like, like a good-looking girl in, I don't know, Redding, California.
00:49:40.120 Fucking boonies of California, you know?
00:49:42.840 Like, some dude in L.A., some dude in Miami, hey, let me fly you out.
00:49:47.100 Totally.
00:49:48.000 It's the tinderization.
00:49:49.200 You're always looking for something better.
00:49:50.460 Yeah, it does ruin dating, like, a lot.
00:49:52.620 Well, it ruins dating for men, I think.
00:49:55.020 But, um...
00:49:55.700 I think it kind of ruins dating for both ways.
00:49:57.980 I feel like...
00:49:58.220 And I think it's an effect on more than just dating, too.
00:50:00.980 Yeah, it has a huge effect on, like, our whole generation and the way we, like, look towards
00:50:04.560 things.
00:50:05.160 I agree.
00:50:05.740 Well, it's...
00:50:06.220 There's definitely an impact on both men and women, but there's certainly no 19-year-old
00:50:10.420 men who are getting DM'd by wealthy women in Miami and L.A. to get flown out, but...
00:50:16.900 Hey, man, you never know.
00:50:18.420 Okay, I'm...
00:50:19.380 Look, I'm speaking in generalities here.
00:50:22.360 The exception does not make the rule, so are there sugar mamas?
00:50:26.380 Yes.
00:50:27.280 Are 99% of people who are sugaring?
00:50:30.940 It's men.
00:50:31.880 So there are sugar mamas out there, but the exception does not make the rule.
00:50:35.900 So, okay, he was in New York, correct?
00:50:39.180 And was he an actor, musician?
00:50:42.360 What was he?
00:50:42.840 He's a celebrity photographer.
00:50:44.720 Celebrity photographer.
00:50:45.580 Okay, so he's got some clout.
00:50:47.100 Yeah, he is.
00:50:47.420 Blue check on Instagram.
00:50:48.480 Yeah.
00:50:49.160 So you and your friend, she was on Raya.
00:50:51.980 Mm-hmm.
00:50:52.620 He invited you to his house in Tulum.
00:50:55.020 Yeah.
00:50:56.200 Did he pay for the flights?
00:50:57.660 No.
00:50:58.260 You paid for the flights, but he...
00:51:00.360 It was his house, so that...
00:51:02.320 Where we were living was paid for.
00:51:04.160 Was he there?
00:51:05.260 Yes.
00:51:05.560 Okay, and he matched with your friend.
00:51:09.260 Mm-hmm.
00:51:09.440 Did they smash?
00:51:10.240 No.
00:51:12.620 Did anything go down?
00:51:14.240 Mm-mm.
00:51:15.240 Me and her held hands.
00:51:17.320 You and...
00:51:18.260 My friend.
00:51:20.160 So she smashed, right?
00:51:21.800 No.
00:51:22.720 I swear to God, they did not have sex, and he was...
00:51:25.800 What was his motivation?
00:51:28.020 Well, he initially said, don't expect anything.
00:51:31.280 I actually have another girl coming, and she likes to hook up, too.
00:51:36.180 And so we didn't expect anything, and we got there, and then the next day, he said, oh,
00:51:41.740 my friend's not coming anymore, by the way.
00:51:43.820 Something with COVID.
00:51:45.180 And so then...
00:51:46.600 It was just you three.
00:51:47.160 It was just the three of us.
00:51:48.920 Okay.
00:51:49.640 And you guys...
00:51:50.780 So you matched on a dating app, yet it was a purely platonic...
00:51:55.380 Raya can also be, like, for networking as well, because you can do here just for friends.
00:51:59.060 I don't know what...
00:51:59.780 How did you guys...
00:52:00.180 What did she do?
00:52:01.680 My friend?
00:52:02.240 Yeah, what did she do?
00:52:03.600 Like, what did she do?
00:52:04.600 Is she a model?
00:52:06.020 Oh, she's a singer-songwriter.
00:52:08.080 Okay.
00:52:08.560 Did they do a photo session, like...
00:52:10.740 No, he didn't really want to connect us with people.
00:52:12.800 It wasn't like that.
00:52:13.580 It was just like...
00:52:14.340 Well, so because you said Raya's a networking app, but...
00:52:16.500 Yeah.
00:52:17.120 I mean...
00:52:17.640 He didn't want to...
00:52:18.340 I mean, that's just...
00:52:19.160 He said that's not his thing.
00:52:20.160 He's like, I don't help people like that.
00:52:21.880 So we just hung out.
00:52:23.060 He fly-fished.
00:52:24.880 We cooked a little bit.
00:52:27.060 We got chicken, ate it on the beach.
00:52:30.120 But you...
00:52:30.480 How long were you crashing at his mansion?
00:52:32.420 Was it a mansion?
00:52:33.700 It wasn't a mansion, but it was a nice house.
00:52:35.400 Nice house in Tulum.
00:52:36.620 Yeah.
00:52:36.920 Which is, like, a very popular, kind of snazzy tourist destination, right?
00:52:40.700 In Mexico.
00:52:41.680 Mm-hmm.
00:52:42.500 Okay.
00:52:43.560 And how long did you guys stay there?
00:52:45.840 Like, three nights, I think.
00:52:47.280 Three nights.
00:52:47.800 Okay.
00:52:48.380 And all the food was provided?
00:52:50.160 No.
00:52:50.720 Actually, we paid for, like, half the food.
00:52:53.880 Oh, okay.
00:52:55.020 But...
00:52:55.620 Okay.
00:52:56.140 Well...
00:52:57.060 Well, you didn't get flown out.
00:52:59.680 I suppose that helps a bit.
00:53:02.340 But there's just...
00:53:04.480 There's no dudes getting the same level of...
00:53:08.880 Of...
00:53:10.120 Treatment.
00:53:10.900 Treatment.
00:53:11.520 Well...
00:53:11.820 Men don't get that treatment.
00:53:13.340 Yeah.
00:53:13.880 We didn't sleep with him.
00:53:15.420 And I know you probably don't believe me.
00:53:16.580 We didn't.
00:53:17.140 No, I'll take your word for it.
00:53:17.900 And I came back and slept with the broke 24-year-old that I was sleeping with instead.
00:53:24.580 Congratulations.
00:53:25.020 Who was completely broke.
00:53:26.440 And that's totally fine.
00:53:28.120 Yeah.
00:53:28.280 That's totally fine.
00:53:28.860 But that opportunity doesn't really exist for men.
00:53:32.480 So...
00:53:33.000 Okay.
00:53:33.680 So, how did we get to the Tulum thing?
00:53:37.800 We were talking about you being a nihilist.
00:53:39.720 We were on her dating profile.
00:53:41.360 Yeah, yeah.
00:53:42.080 Go ahead.
00:53:42.640 Pull it up.
00:53:43.040 Okay.
00:53:43.160 I think we're kind of past that part.
00:53:47.720 Next one.
00:53:50.100 Next.
00:53:51.840 Next.
00:53:53.800 Next.
00:53:56.780 I fall for you if you have a motorcycle.
00:53:58.660 Did the broke dude have a motorcycle?
00:54:00.220 No.
00:54:00.980 Okay.
00:54:01.180 Unfortunately.
00:54:01.900 Trying to have my Lana Del Rey ride moment.
00:54:04.020 Okay.
00:54:04.620 Next.
00:54:05.540 Oh, hold on.
00:54:07.180 Did this come through, Eric?
00:54:09.280 Nope.
00:54:10.060 Oh, it might have been because we were hiding in the...
00:54:12.740 I want to preempt it.
00:54:13.640 It might have...
00:54:15.100 Because we were in the other window.
00:54:16.620 Maybe it didn't trigger.
00:54:19.100 But how did we get to the Tulum thing?
00:54:20.940 Oh, there we go.
00:54:21.960 Derek Manx once super chatted $49.99.
00:54:26.340 Thank you, Derek.
00:54:26.800 I grew up in a house full of women and makeup is more for the woman's confidence.
00:54:31.860 I know the top 2% of men is the goal for most women to date.
00:54:36.100 Oftentimes, women don't know what that looks like or the amount of time away they will have to accept.
00:54:41.300 I disagree with that.
00:54:44.540 Which part?
00:54:45.080 The one where most women only want to date the top 2% of men.
00:54:49.460 That's their goal.
00:54:50.980 I would totally disagree with that.
00:54:53.100 Why?
00:54:53.680 Because, I don't know, this is for me, but for me, I'm a hopeless romantic and I don't really care if you're wealthy or if you're that.
00:55:00.480 Like, I just really want to, like, date someone for the experience of, like, that person in themselves.
00:55:05.580 And for, like, us falling in love with each other has nothing to do with, like, their wealth status or their class or anything like that.
00:55:12.680 Sure.
00:55:13.200 I mean, you're 19, right?
00:55:14.440 Okay.
00:55:15.120 So, I mean, I'd say most people, when they're in, you know, in college, typically someone's finances, chiefly because most of the people, most of the guys your age, they're not, they're in college.
00:55:27.940 You know, they don't have a job.
00:55:29.460 They don't really have a lot of money.
00:55:30.820 Although there's a, Santa Barbara's a fairly affluent area, so there's a lot of trust fund kids going to SBCC and whatnot.
00:55:38.300 But I would say definitely for younger, younger people, younger women, money isn't really a huge factor, but it does, money does become a bit more important to women as I think they, as they get a bit older.
00:55:52.980 But, I mean, you mentioned status, too.
00:55:55.920 If a guy, so if a guy has status, that doesn't matter?
00:55:58.920 No, I don't care whether they have status or not, like, or clout or anything like that.
00:56:02.880 Like, I don't care about that.
00:56:03.800 If Timothy Chalamet slides into your DMs, he's not getting a response?
00:56:08.360 He is.
00:56:08.760 He is.
00:56:09.420 Oh, okay.
00:56:10.020 He definitely is.
00:56:11.440 He's good looking, too, by which he looks like.
00:56:13.760 He's good looking, but, like.
00:56:15.140 I don't know if that's your type, but.
00:56:16.660 I, he, I do think he's good looking, but he's not generally my type.
00:56:19.920 What's your type?
00:56:21.380 Closer to the mic.
00:56:22.380 I kind of, like, I don't really have, like, a certain type.
00:56:25.780 Like, I think if you're just attractive and funny, like, I would just, like, you don't
00:56:29.480 have to be, like, I don't know, like, white boys or, like, Mexicans.
00:56:32.700 Like, I go for either way.
00:56:33.700 Like, I don't really care.
00:56:35.000 Okay.
00:56:36.140 All right.
00:56:37.780 Okay.
00:56:38.100 So, you were, you were saying that you don't really care about money.
00:56:41.980 Yeah.
00:56:42.260 And a couple of other of you disagreed about the, disagree that women are chasing after
00:56:47.220 the top 2% of men, top 5.
00:56:49.740 I mean, I hear different numbers, top 10%, top 5%, but you disagree with that?
00:56:53.620 Some might be.
00:56:54.720 I mean, yeah, some people probably are.
00:56:57.380 Why?
00:56:58.560 Okay.
00:56:58.860 So, I have a question for you guys.
00:57:00.620 You guys are on dating apps.
00:57:02.760 Except for you and you, if you're on a dating app.
00:57:07.080 What percentage of men would you say, what percentage of men that you see would you say
00:57:12.020 are, you find attractive?
00:57:14.640 Like, out of.
00:57:15.120 Let's start with you.
00:57:15.880 On the apps?
00:57:17.180 Yeah.
00:57:17.420 Like, on the apps.
00:57:18.260 So, which, like, you don't have to give exact number, but what percent, oh, hold on.
00:57:22.320 Beat in cheeks, super chatted $50.
00:57:24.320 Thank you, man.
00:57:24.700 These girls don't care about a successful guy such as myself.
00:57:29.280 They want to get run through by chads and tirons of this young agent that will lower their
00:57:33.640 value as we know it as they get older and want to settle for the guys that are waiting
00:57:38.480 in the apps.
00:57:39.540 Whoa.
00:57:40.120 The TTS guy had, like, a stroke midway through there.
00:57:43.720 Started slurring his words.
00:57:46.060 Do you guys have a response to Cheeks?
00:57:49.320 Um, not really.
00:57:51.220 No, no.
00:57:52.180 I'm sorry that you think that about women.
00:57:56.460 I think as you kind of mature, um, and I'm speaking for my own experience.
00:58:03.620 As I started, you know, um, building a career and making more money, I, I really look for
00:58:12.800 that in my other partner at this point.
00:58:14.980 Because I have been in relationships in the past where it was very one-sided.
00:58:19.680 I was paying for everything and I don't want that anymore.
00:58:22.800 I don't want that again.
00:58:24.180 Um, it was super exhausting, really draining.
00:58:27.200 And, um, I think now when you do get to that point where you're, you know, successful in a way,
00:58:37.220 um, you do seek that out in another partner to match that.
00:58:40.640 And that's, that's just my personal experience because it is exhausting pulling the weight
00:58:45.180 of somebody else.
00:58:47.860 I agree with that in the sense that, like, if I have, like, my situation together, I mean,
00:58:52.240 I'm going to school, I'm working.
00:58:53.760 I do want to look for someone who has, like, life goals or, like, who has, like, stuff like
00:58:58.460 that.
00:58:58.600 I, obviously right now, like, I'm younger, so I don't really care about, like, money
00:59:01.660 or anything like that.
00:59:02.820 But I do, I would want someone.
00:59:03.780 But it would suck to date, like, some guy that's just, just bumming it on some, their
00:59:09.080 homie's couch.
00:59:10.140 You know what I mean?
00:59:11.100 Like, yeah, exactly, for sure.
00:59:13.200 Yeah, I agree with that.
00:59:15.000 What do you mean?
00:59:15.440 When you say don't have their situation together, what do you mean?
00:59:18.160 Like, um.
00:59:19.160 Closer to the mic, please.
00:59:19.760 I'm obviously not going to, like, I mean, you never know.
00:59:22.400 I'm not going to say never.
00:59:23.060 But, like, um, if they, like, I mean, they, I want them to have goals or, like, outlooks
00:59:28.220 on lives of, like, what they want to do with their life or, like, you know, like, have
00:59:32.500 morals and, like, things they stand with and, like, you know, stuff like that.
00:59:37.040 M. Martin super chatted $50.
00:59:39.780 Ladies, trust me, when you get a bit older, you will care.
00:59:44.120 You'll want a successful man to give yourself the best chance for yourself and your offspring.
00:59:49.700 It's just biology.
00:59:51.560 Biology trumps nurture, social constructs, and modernity.
00:59:56.760 Yo, Martin, thank you for that super chat.
00:59:58.280 You guys have a response to Martin.
01:00:00.080 I mean, I would agree that, like, drive and, like, the wanting to do the best in your life
01:00:06.500 is far more attractive than just wanting to make purely financial growth alone.
01:00:12.740 Sure.
01:00:14.420 Okay.
01:00:15.220 So, did any of you disagree with the previous, excuse me, with the previous, oh, my God.
01:00:20.540 Maybe I'm the one having the stroke now.
01:00:22.460 The previous TTS where he said women are all chasing after the top percent of men, the top
01:00:27.480 10, top 20 percent of men, or I think he said top 2 percent of men.
01:00:30.640 Derek, I think I disagree with you slightly there.
01:00:32.840 I think, well, obviously people want to get the best that they can get, but I think it's,
01:00:36.520 like, top 5, top 10 percent, but.
01:00:38.000 I mean, I think it's attractive, again, like, for guys that are chasing towards being the
01:00:46.800 top 5 or top 10, but, I mean, just having that and no substance behind their person,
01:00:53.720 it doesn't really matter.
01:00:55.140 Okay.
01:00:55.360 So, the question I was going to ask in response to that is, so, what percent of men that you
01:01:01.060 find attractive, and let's start with just the dating apps first.
01:01:04.100 So, what do you swipe, what's your swipe percentage?
01:01:08.800 I mean, with the guys that interact with me, I'd probably say, like, 40 to, like.
01:01:14.880 You swipe on 50, like, you swipe yes for 50 percent of the men?
01:01:19.680 No, like, 40 percent is what I would swipe, or, like, 30 percent.
01:01:22.000 That's pretty high.
01:01:22.760 Yeah.
01:01:23.360 Okay.
01:01:24.420 What about you?
01:01:25.360 I'd probably swipe on, like.
01:01:29.400 You swipe yes on?
01:01:30.580 Yes.
01:01:31.180 Yeah.
01:01:31.340 On probably, like, of the people who like me, probably, like, 10 or 20 percent.
01:01:36.180 Okay.
01:01:36.520 10 or 20 percent.
01:01:37.340 Okay.
01:01:39.100 Like, 10 percent.
01:01:40.400 10 percent.
01:01:41.180 Okay.
01:01:43.440 Maybe 20.
01:01:44.660 20 percent.
01:01:45.560 Okay.
01:01:47.020 What about you?
01:01:48.260 Oh, sorry.
01:01:48.780 You're not on dating app, Liv.
01:01:49.780 What about you?
01:01:50.360 I'm not on one.
01:01:51.180 You're not?
01:01:51.500 Oh, okay.
01:01:51.900 Whatever.
01:01:52.200 All right.
01:01:52.420 So, you said, really, 40?
01:01:56.820 Like.
01:01:57.080 I think that's exaggerated.
01:01:58.060 Like, probably, like, 30, but, like, I would not think it's below 30.
01:02:00.820 It's, like, for the people who interact with me, yeah, 100 percent.
01:02:03.480 Probably, like, 30.
01:02:04.940 Okay.
01:02:05.460 You said 10 to 20 percent.
01:02:06.740 You said 10 percent.
01:02:07.540 You said 20 percent.
01:02:08.880 Well, so, I mean, just on the dating apps alone, you guys, three of you are going for the top 10 or top 20 percent of men.
01:02:16.780 Um, and then, some of you said that you, I don't know if we went around on this.
01:02:22.800 You guys, oh, no, oh, I remember what we were going around on, which led to the Tulum thing.
01:02:26.980 If you ever met someone off of a dating app, you said no, never met a guy on a dating app, correct?
01:02:32.580 Yeah, I have not.
01:02:33.420 You had the one time with the friend in Tulum, but never, like.
01:02:37.760 No, if I saw someone I knew and we, like, matched, then I would meet up with them.
01:02:41.500 But you've never, like, totally new guy, never met him before, right?
01:02:45.040 I don't think so.
01:02:45.880 Okay, what about you?
01:02:46.800 No.
01:02:47.580 Have you ever gone out on a date ever from a dating app?
01:02:51.700 From a dating app?
01:02:52.480 Yeah, yeah.
01:02:52.820 No.
01:02:53.140 Okay, what about you?
01:02:54.520 Have I ever met with someone from a dating app?
01:02:56.320 Yeah.
01:02:56.600 No.
01:02:57.140 Okay, but you're on the dating apps.
01:02:58.860 Yeah.
01:02:59.480 Yeah.
01:03:00.300 How long, really quick, just how long have you been on dating apps?
01:03:03.880 Um, I've had Hinge for, like, a month and a half now.
01:03:07.640 Any other dating apps?
01:03:08.900 No.
01:03:09.440 Okay, a month and a half, what about you?
01:03:10.880 On and off for, like, probably two years.
01:03:13.540 Sure, what about you?
01:03:14.740 Like, four months.
01:03:15.600 Four months.
01:03:17.440 Um, I delete it and re-download it, but I got it.
01:03:20.360 Every fortnight?
01:03:21.680 Yeah, it is.
01:03:22.420 Yeah, okay.
01:03:23.200 But I got it when I was, like, freshly 18, probably.
01:03:27.960 Okay.
01:03:29.560 Got nervous there for a second.
01:03:30.840 Okay, so, um, none of you have really been on dates, really, from the dating apps.
01:03:39.920 Um, I assume, though, I mean, we looked, I think two of you had 50-plus pending matches.
01:03:45.220 Um, is there any reason you guys don't want to meet up with any guys from dating apps?
01:03:50.240 Um.
01:03:50.600 Um, I'm sure there's attractive guys hitting you up that are prepared to, I mean, it's Valentine's Day, right?
01:03:55.300 We're all, except for two of us at this table, we're all forever alone.
01:03:59.640 We're all losers.
01:04:01.220 Um, so, uh, I suppose, I'm sure you had some potential men who would be more than glad to take you out on dates.
01:04:09.420 It's just not interested, and what's, what's the situation?
01:04:13.840 Uh, for me, I don't know, like, I think, I don't really, I'm not, I don't feed in too much into the dating app,
01:04:18.600 which is probably why I have, like, 50-plus, because I don't really go on it that much.
01:04:22.060 I did start my account, like, I was with my friends, and they're like, oh, you should get Hinge.
01:04:25.640 Like, it's such, it's, like, not a dumb dating app at all, so I was like, okay, I tried it out.
01:04:30.040 Like, the first week was probably, like, the one week I was actually, like, active on it,
01:04:33.600 and then after, I just kind of gave up on it, because I, like.
01:04:36.440 It's overwhelming, yeah.
01:04:37.340 It's just, there's too much, and it's also, like,
01:04:39.420 I, the online meeting just isn't the same as, like, in-person meeting someone.
01:04:43.900 It's just completely different.
01:04:44.900 You prefer it to be more organic.
01:04:46.700 Yeah.
01:04:47.020 Yeah, and there's that sort of awkwardness with, uh, online.
01:04:50.840 Yeah, it is.
01:04:52.160 You don't know, you like, am I gonna get murdered type shit, you know?
01:04:55.180 Yeah, you don't know.
01:04:56.140 Yeah, okay.
01:04:57.200 Um, well, kind of bringing it back to real life, um, what percentage of men would you say that you see
01:05:03.880 just out in real life that you find attractive?
01:05:07.660 And you go to City College, right?
01:05:09.640 Mm-hmm.
01:05:10.700 So, obviously, there's men that are probably, like, you, you go to Trader Joe's,
01:05:15.060 and you see 50-year-olds, you're probably not attracted to them.
01:05:17.520 So, like, of the men, like, that you see that you think are within your age cohort,
01:05:22.060 I don't know, say 18 to 25, right?
01:05:23.820 Mm-hmm.
01:05:24.000 Um, what percentage of them would you say you find attractive?
01:05:28.340 Um, probably, like, 30.
01:05:30.340 30 percent?
01:05:31.060 Okay.
01:05:31.420 What about you?
01:05:32.200 Out and about?
01:05:33.400 You, uh, yeah, yeah.
01:05:35.360 Um, yeah, 30.
01:05:37.640 30 percent of men?
01:05:38.480 Mm-hmm.
01:05:38.540 Okay, what about you?
01:05:38.920 I'd say 30.
01:05:39.640 I feel like there's a lot of cute boys in Santa Barbara.
01:05:41.660 Yeah, for sure.
01:05:42.240 Cute boys.
01:05:42.560 I mean, in Santa Barbara, maybe more.
01:05:44.280 Yeah, like, Santa Barbara would be, like, 40.
01:05:45.720 Yeah.
01:05:45.960 Yeah, I feel like everyone in Santa Barbara, for the most part, is, like, an eight or higher.
01:05:50.360 Yeah, no, everyone in Santa Barbara is pretty attractive here.
01:05:53.040 Okay.
01:05:54.240 Uh, what about you?
01:05:55.340 I know, let's say you didn't have a boyfriend.
01:05:58.220 What percentage of them, speaking for your friends?
01:06:01.560 I mean, my friends generally think we have a pretty poor pool to work with at our school.
01:06:06.920 At UCSB?
01:06:07.920 Yeah.
01:06:08.440 A poor pool of men?
01:06:10.760 Of men, yeah.
01:06:11.480 Why is that?
01:06:13.820 Uh, just, I don't know.
01:06:15.420 Gosh.
01:06:15.720 I don't know.
01:06:16.400 Just, like, men are not at the mature level that some of my friends are hoping that they
01:06:21.700 would be at.
01:06:24.240 Would you care to elaborate?
01:06:26.960 I don't know.
01:06:27.660 Just the commitment that my friends are wanting are not what the men are ready to give.
01:06:33.760 Your friends want commitment?
01:06:36.600 Yes.
01:06:37.560 Okay.
01:06:38.400 Like, you sure?
01:06:40.500 Really?
01:06:40.800 I mean, or just, like, decent treatment.
01:06:43.840 Just, I don't know.
01:06:44.260 Decent treatment?
01:06:44.480 Yeah.
01:06:44.920 What is decent treatment from a frat guy or a college boy?
01:06:49.660 Oh, man.
01:06:51.060 What does that mean to you?
01:06:52.960 Just good attention.
01:06:55.760 Not, I mean, if they say, like, being honest.
01:06:58.680 I don't know.
01:07:01.300 Honesty?
01:07:01.780 Honesty, period.
01:07:02.480 Do you think that women, when you say honesty, what do you mean?
01:07:06.460 Honest in what way?
01:07:08.160 I mean, some of the men say, like, oh, I'm just seeing you, or I'm just, it's like, it's
01:07:12.420 just us.
01:07:12.960 Don't worry about it.
01:07:13.780 And it's not just them.
01:07:15.840 Are the girls just seeing them?
01:07:18.580 My friends, yeah.
01:07:19.680 Your friends?
01:07:20.360 Yes.
01:07:20.620 Come on.
01:07:22.960 Stop the cap.
01:07:24.100 Come on.
01:07:25.180 I, no, my, that is true.
01:07:27.620 I mean, it definitely doesn't seem to be the case.
01:07:31.700 At least in 2023, most people are like, fucking this guy over here.
01:07:36.460 People, both men and women, sleeping with multiple people.
01:07:39.400 So, that does, unfortunately, I think, seem to be the case.
01:07:42.940 But, so your friends are perfectly single.
01:07:45.000 They're not talking to any other guys, but they're finding, they're having trouble getting
01:07:50.860 guys to commit.
01:07:52.640 I mean, it's not like it's a perfect, everyone has, like, a perfect situation.
01:07:57.680 But, I mean, college is, college relationships are just messy in general.
01:08:01.240 I don't know.
01:08:02.220 Right.
01:08:02.820 Okay.
01:08:03.540 So, you said you wish men could be honest.
01:08:07.760 Do you wish men could be upfront?
01:08:10.400 I mean, it's just like, if you ask them a question, just getting a point blank answer
01:08:14.600 more like that.
01:08:15.520 Nothing like dancing around the truth.
01:08:17.360 It's just kind of like, you ask a question and you expect the genuine response.
01:08:23.440 Okay.
01:08:24.220 So, I think it sounds like the main issue you have is, like, the guys, they're kind
01:08:29.160 of, they're afraid of commitment, and they're lying to the girls that they're just seeing
01:08:37.340 them when actually they're not.
01:08:40.560 Yeah.
01:08:41.380 Okay.
01:08:44.540 Do you think, and your girlfriends, they're just seeing that guy?
01:08:50.720 Yes.
01:08:51.260 From what they're talking about.
01:08:51.540 Because women have way more options than men do.
01:08:55.860 I mean, it depends what your, like, social pool is.
01:08:59.560 Unless you're, like, a male celebrity, almost every single woman has more options than most
01:09:04.140 men.
01:09:04.340 Well, like, for college, like, going, like, at frat parties or whatever, the ratio is,
01:09:09.880 like, eight to one, you know?
01:09:11.160 So, it's not, like, in those scenarios, it's not, like...
01:09:14.640 What do you think frat boys are looking for?
01:09:16.160 You think they're looking for Valentine's?
01:09:20.080 Pussy.
01:09:20.720 Commitment?
01:09:21.160 Yeah, they're looking for someone to fuck.
01:09:24.140 Okay.
01:09:24.800 I don't want to speak on their back.
01:09:26.040 Well, yeah, let's not get you in trouble, but...
01:09:28.460 Okay, so, would you guys agree that you think men are not so interested in commitment?
01:09:36.480 Yeah.
01:09:37.440 Do you guys want commitment?
01:09:39.100 Yeah.
01:09:40.020 Really?
01:09:40.580 Yes.
01:09:41.680 With the right person?
01:09:42.800 Yeah, 100%.
01:09:43.860 Okay.
01:09:44.380 I have a question for you guys.
01:09:46.880 So, you guys are all fairly young.
01:09:48.700 You're in college.
01:09:50.020 Do you guys party on Friday and Saturdays?
01:09:52.500 Like, go to parties, clubs?
01:09:54.280 Well, some of you are not 21, but...
01:09:56.100 Yeah, yeah.
01:09:56.880 Like, is it predetermined, like, every single Friday and Saturday, we're going out to DP,
01:10:01.800 we're going Del Playa, we're going...
01:10:03.360 No, no, it's not predetermined.
01:10:04.000 We're going to a party.
01:10:05.180 But if, like, our friend texts us and is, like, hey, someone's, like, doing something
01:10:08.060 special or there's something, like, we'll make it, make sure to go out.
01:10:11.840 So, let me ask, how frequently do you guys go out to parties, bars, clubs?
01:10:18.340 Like, now or, like, in high school and stuff?
01:10:21.640 I think now.
01:10:22.580 Let's say now.
01:10:23.360 Okay.
01:10:24.880 Like, as of right now, we haven't gone out for a really long time, but probably, like,
01:10:30.000 twice a month.
01:10:31.500 Oh, okay.
01:10:32.180 That's not that bad.
01:10:33.340 What about you?
01:10:33.820 I'm sober right now, so I'm not going out and getting drunk at bars.
01:10:37.900 But when I am, probably, like, maybe once a week or same thing, two to three times a
01:10:46.120 month.
01:10:46.780 Okay.
01:10:47.160 I mean, there's definitely phases of going out a little bit more summertime calls for
01:10:50.060 going out a little bit more.
01:10:51.620 Yeah.
01:10:51.860 Well, and did you want to go?
01:10:53.540 How often do you party, go out?
01:10:55.120 Like, once a week.
01:10:56.160 But it's been a while.
01:10:56.720 Once a week.
01:10:57.500 Yeah.
01:10:57.760 Yeah, it hasn't been a long time since we...
01:10:59.820 It's kind of cold right now.
01:11:01.160 Yeah.
01:11:01.360 What, let's say, like, fall and summer.
01:11:04.640 I wouldn't say I'd be going out a lot more, but I'd probably be hanging out with, like,
01:11:08.100 bigger groups of friends a lot more.
01:11:10.360 I'd be going out more in the summer.
01:11:11.820 Yeah.
01:11:12.240 I think there's less responsibilities and...
01:11:14.560 Yeah.
01:11:14.980 It's, like, warmer.
01:11:16.100 It's warm.
01:11:16.680 It's, like, nice.
01:11:17.740 There's more people coming in town.
01:11:19.020 Hot girl summer.
01:11:20.240 Yeah.
01:11:20.620 Okay.
01:11:21.020 People are visiting.
01:11:22.180 What about you?
01:11:22.700 How often do you party?
01:11:25.160 Maybe two to three times a month.
01:11:27.880 Okay.
01:11:28.340 Not too frequently from you guys.
01:11:30.140 So, you have a boyfriend, but it's long distance.
01:11:33.320 So, and, I mean, UCSB, it was ranked the number one party school in the nation.
01:11:37.420 It's been known as a top party school for decades at this point.
01:11:41.760 You're in a sorority, correct?
01:11:44.000 And sorority, they often go to fraternity parties and whatnot.
01:11:47.900 Has your boyfriend ever had or voiced any issues or concerns with not wanting you to, like,
01:11:56.380 go out and party?
01:11:58.400 Honestly, no.
01:11:59.760 Okay.
01:12:00.240 Yeah.
01:12:00.520 He doesn't mind?
01:12:01.460 Mm-mm.
01:12:01.780 But do you?
01:12:02.540 I mean, I didn't ask if you do, but...
01:12:04.400 I mean, not in that kind of sense.
01:12:05.960 It's, like, I go for the social, like, to hang out with my friends kind of thing.
01:12:08.900 Okay.
01:12:09.500 And we just, I don't know, we have very fluid communication.
01:12:12.280 Sure.
01:12:12.420 He knows.
01:12:12.940 He doesn't have anything to worry about.
01:12:14.620 Okay.
01:12:15.440 All right.
01:12:17.800 I think one of the big things, I don't know how long I want to stay on this one just because
01:12:21.680 I want to continue with our dating app review, but I think one of the big things when it
01:12:27.180 comes to commitment and being in a relationship, one thing that a lot of men want, and I honestly
01:12:32.160 think women ought to desire it, too, is if you want commitment, you really shouldn't
01:12:41.560 be going out and partying with your single friends, going to the bar, and going to the
01:12:45.620 club.
01:12:46.460 I think that's really bad, bad for relationships.
01:12:51.660 Agree?
01:12:52.120 Disagree?
01:12:52.520 You didn't ask me if I wanted commitment, and I don't want commitment, so...
01:12:56.120 Well, it was more so in response to her because she said her friends are kind of, they're
01:13:01.760 desirous of commitment, yet the guys are not willing to commit.
01:13:07.240 So your question is...
01:13:09.280 Wait, so wait, are you still asking about the...
01:13:11.360 Let me frame it like this.
01:13:12.680 Let's say you could...
01:13:13.920 Let's say...
01:13:14.520 Are you all desirous of a relationship right now?
01:13:16.780 Because some people, they just kind of want to be single and...
01:13:19.260 I think if you...
01:13:19.860 I want to fall into it.
01:13:20.880 I don't want to...
01:13:21.520 I'm not actively looking for it.
01:13:23.580 You're not thirsty for it, but like you want...
01:13:25.700 But it would be nice, like of course.
01:13:27.700 Okay, so question for you.
01:13:29.480 Hypothetical scenario.
01:13:30.320 Let's say you meet a great guy.
01:13:32.400 He'll be loyal to you.
01:13:33.960 He'll commit to you.
01:13:36.260 However, he has one kind of condition, and his condition is...
01:13:41.080 He doesn't want you going to parties, bars, and clubs.
01:13:48.000 I've heard you do this question before.
01:13:49.540 You've heard this one before?
01:13:50.400 Yeah.
01:13:50.860 So, hold on.
01:13:51.980 Beat in cheek, super chatted.
01:13:53.520 Thank you, man.
01:13:53.980 Appreciate it.
01:13:54.980 Chelsea coming out with her doomed relationship with her feels.
01:13:58.800 Respect.
01:14:00.100 Ladies, would you get rid of your social media presence if the guy you are in a serious relationship
01:14:05.180 asked you to in order to maintain that relationship?
01:14:08.500 We'll do that one first.
01:14:09.500 Really quick.
01:14:10.140 Yes or no?
01:14:11.400 I feel like it depends.
01:14:13.140 I would want to have a conversation with them and be like, why?
01:14:16.000 Like, what's the issue with, like, me having an Instagram account or, like, something like
01:14:20.680 that?
01:14:20.960 Like, why does it bother you?
01:14:22.260 Sure.
01:14:22.820 No.
01:14:24.500 I don't really take social media that seriously, so, like, I guess if he really cared.
01:14:32.720 Maybe, like, no.
01:14:36.560 Okay.
01:14:36.960 I just want to know why my relationship is doomed.
01:14:41.400 Did he say that?
01:14:42.440 Yeah, he did.
01:14:43.260 Oh, whoops.
01:14:43.800 Sorry, cheeks.
01:14:44.500 I missed that part.
01:14:46.240 What about you?
01:14:47.220 Oh, I mean.
01:14:49.820 What if your boyfriend was like, yo, get rid of the Instagram?
01:14:54.220 Well, it's hard because that's how I, that's where I post my tattoos.
01:14:58.000 That's your business.
01:14:58.180 That's my business account.
01:14:59.520 So, I, you can't fuck with money like that.
01:15:03.780 You know what I mean?
01:15:04.400 Sure.
01:15:04.540 It's, yeah.
01:15:05.520 Liv.
01:15:05.740 I'm in the same situation.
01:15:07.580 Maybe if it was my personal account, we could talk about it, but my hair account, that's
01:15:13.380 how I get clients, so, no.
01:15:16.200 By the way, guys, hairdressers, are you a hairdresser?
01:15:19.920 Yeah.
01:15:24.020 There, be careful, guys.
01:15:25.800 Okay.
01:15:26.860 I'm kidding, Liv.
01:15:27.760 I'm kidding.
01:15:28.540 But, it's kind of like horse, it's kind of like horse girls, too.
01:15:32.740 Beware of horse girls.
01:15:33.780 Those are two different things.
01:15:36.180 Did you get hurt by a horse girl?
01:15:38.440 No, but I've heard, I've heard stories.
01:15:41.160 It seems like hairdressers and horse, horse girls are crazy.
01:15:45.800 Really?
01:15:46.280 I've never heard a commitment, though.
01:15:48.240 No, no, but it's not about the commitment.
01:15:49.580 It's just like, okay, be careful.
01:15:53.820 Don't hate me, Liv.
01:15:54.620 Okay, so, oh, okay, so, the original thing was.
01:16:00.760 The going out.
01:16:02.100 Yeah.
01:16:03.440 He'll be loyal, great guy, whatever.
01:16:06.880 Okay, but do you know why that's, like, a problem for most guys?
01:16:09.720 Like, what is it about going out that, like, I mean, I haven't met a guy, or that's such
01:16:13.500 a lie, but, like, the people I'm looking for, they, like, haven't been, like, right now,
01:16:17.820 haven't been, like, oh, you can't go out, but, like, I know that is true, because my
01:16:20.660 ex was like that, and he was super, like, if you go out, like, we're over.
01:16:24.340 So, like, what is the issue with that?
01:16:25.740 Like, I don't understand what.
01:16:27.300 Yeah, I'll address that, but have you guys ever, have you heard any guys, maybe a guy
01:16:33.140 you're interested in, have you heard him have an issue with wanting to date a girl that
01:16:39.660 goes out and stuff?
01:16:40.960 Yeah.
01:16:41.440 Yes.
01:16:41.860 You have, no, no, but some of you have, some of you haven't, okay.
01:16:45.740 Your ex-boyfriend had an issue with it.
01:16:46.940 Yeah, he had, like, a big issue with it.
01:16:48.160 Big issue with it, and he didn't want you doing what, just going out with your friend?
01:16:52.520 Like, it was, like, high school parties, like, stuff like that, and he would be, like, no,
01:16:56.040 like, or I would invite him, because I was, like, you know, come with me, like, we're
01:16:59.460 dating, I would like you to be with me, like, you're my partner, and he was, he was
01:17:03.680 still, like, I would take him with me, and then we would get in arguments at the
01:17:06.540 party, because he just was, like, I don't want to be here, let's go,
01:17:09.440 let's leave, or, like, certain things like that, where he was just, like, I don't want
01:17:12.360 you going out, period, or, like, even hanging out with, like, guy friends that, like, you
01:17:18.020 guys have the same friend group.
01:17:20.660 Okay, so, and so your question is, why do you guys...
01:17:24.300 I'm not such a big issue, like, I don't...
01:17:26.100 Is there no level, like, of trust in the relationship?
01:17:28.240 Yeah, because I feel like the huge problem is with trust, like, I mean, I feel like this
01:17:32.080 whole thing with, like, social media and stuff, like, it's caused a lot of trust issues
01:17:35.560 and insecurities in relationships, and, like, I feel like if we have a good level
01:17:39.420 of communication and trust, obviously, I'm not going to ghost you the whole night, I'm
01:17:42.780 going to, like, keep you updated, let you know what happens, but, like, I feel like
01:17:46.500 why wouldn't we be able to have trust, you know what I mean?
01:17:49.820 Well, it's just kind of...
01:17:53.420 Bars, clubs, and parties, I know you guys, I mean, I don't know if you guys have fake
01:17:58.580 IDs, you two, or if you guys go to bars and clubs and stuff, parties are basically the
01:18:03.780 same thing, at least college-type parties, there's a lot of drinking, a lot of people
01:18:07.380 hooking up, it's...
01:18:09.740 Okay, let me ask one more question, and then I'll give you my take.
01:18:12.020 Yeah.
01:18:12.340 Do you guys think it's insecure for a guy to not want his girlfriend to be going out?
01:18:20.780 I don't think it's insecurity.
01:18:22.140 I think it's valid.
01:18:23.540 Okay, that's fair.
01:18:24.440 Thank you.
01:18:25.320 I think sometimes insecurity can be a factor, but that doesn't make it any less valid, and
01:18:31.180 there could also just be, like, oh, I want you to, like, spend time with me instead.
01:18:35.180 Sure.
01:18:38.260 What was the question?
01:18:39.320 Do you think if a guy didn't want his girlfriend going out to party, bars, clubs, do you think
01:18:44.480 that's insecurity?
01:18:45.580 I think a little, yeah.
01:18:46.700 A little bit.
01:18:47.380 Okay.
01:18:47.620 I mean, if the reasoning is because I want you to stay home with me, I want to, like,
01:18:51.020 I want us to hang out, I want to have movie nights, I want us to go on dates together
01:18:55.300 and look at the stars or whatever, that's not insecurity, that's just wanting to spend
01:18:58.560 quality time together.
01:18:59.740 But if it's because, like, I'm going to be at work and I don't want to know you're out
01:19:04.080 without me, I think that comes from some type of distrust in his girlfriend.
01:19:10.440 So then that needs to be communicated and they need to talk to me about that.
01:19:12.760 Yeah, so let's not assume that it's because he, maybe he does want to spend time with you,
01:19:19.420 but maybe he's not even in town.
01:19:21.020 He just, he doesn't want you.
01:19:23.600 So it could, let's say it's both.
01:19:25.060 I think it's more of a guy being like, what do you need to get up and, like, get dressed
01:19:31.260 up for and go out for?
01:19:32.820 Who do you need to look good for?
01:19:34.020 Which I can see how you guys think it comes off as insecurity, but I think that's the main
01:19:38.340 thing in a guy's head because, personally, I've been in a relationship before where we
01:19:43.200 started out going to parties and then all of a sudden he was like, yo, like, why do you
01:19:47.540 go out so much?
01:19:48.720 And then I stopped and then he started going out and I was like, what does he need to get
01:19:53.580 super, like, dressed up for, I guess?
01:19:56.960 And so that was the, that was the conflict that came out of our relationship and obviously
01:20:01.640 I don't know if he's learned from it.
01:20:03.340 I learned from it.
01:20:04.260 So I prefer to stay home when I'm in a relationship, but if I do go out, I want him to come with
01:20:08.920 me.
01:20:09.380 That's valid.
01:20:10.080 Yeah.
01:20:10.560 Yeah.
01:20:11.000 That's where, yeah.
01:20:13.640 Validation.
01:20:14.180 And did you want to give your take?
01:20:16.740 On the insecurity.
01:20:17.540 Do you think it's insecurity?
01:20:19.220 At times, yeah.
01:20:20.180 I could see it could be like insecurity.
01:20:21.880 Okay.
01:20:22.360 So, and obviously I think there's degrees to this.
01:20:25.680 For example, if a girl like is going out Thursday, Friday, Saturday versus like occasionally
01:20:30.940 going out, it's different.
01:20:34.440 I think still there's some, can be some issues there, but.
01:20:38.420 Also, I mean, if her friends are single, they want to go out probably to be talking to
01:20:43.980 new guys and girls, but talking to guys.
01:20:47.300 So if that's the way she has to hang out with her girlfriends or single girlfriends, they
01:20:51.720 don't, they're not going to want to have a movie night all the time, you know, inside.
01:20:54.740 She's going to have to be partake in that.
01:20:56.600 And she'll probably just wingman them.
01:20:58.460 But I mean, I don't think.
01:21:01.140 That's wing, ooh, that's a yikes.
01:21:03.600 Like, well, a wingman's job would be to entertain the other guy while your girlfriend is talking.
01:21:09.840 Oh, I mean, when I said wingman, I mean like.
01:21:11.740 Well, that's what a male wingman would do, would be talking to like the friend.
01:21:15.780 I mean like going to the guy and being like, hey, my friend thinks you're cute.
01:21:19.140 So, yeah, that's what I mean by wingman.
01:21:21.560 You're fine.
01:21:22.020 M. Martin super chatted $50.
01:21:24.800 Multiple studies, AMA, Yale, et cetera, show a strong link between regular social media use
01:21:31.860 and increased depression, anxiety, loneliness, self-harm, and self-deletion.
01:21:38.200 SM promotes self-hate, inadequacy about one's own life.
01:21:42.540 Women are 80% of SM users.
01:21:44.660 Yeah, I mean, definitely social media is, I think it's terrible for both men and women.
01:21:50.120 There's, you're comparing your, there's a, I don't know the exact quote, but basically
01:21:55.180 you're looking at people's highlight reel.
01:21:58.660 Like, you know, you're seeing them on vacations and their life looks great, but,
01:22:02.920 so you're making some comparisons and then people are, you know, photoshopping,
01:22:09.240 the fucking chicks are squeezing their, their, uh, cinching their waist to ridiculous proportions.
01:22:17.440 So, yeah, I think it's bad for both men and women.
01:22:19.600 Thank you, Martin, for the, uh, super chat.
01:22:21.280 So, you said that, um, you would wing woman, go up to the dude and, and say that my friend
01:22:29.040 thinks you're cute.
01:22:30.860 So, you would approach on your girlfriend's behalf.
01:22:33.660 Sure.
01:22:34.300 Okay.
01:22:34.540 So, that's a little, I want to touch on something related to that.
01:22:37.180 That's a little different.
01:22:37.900 I will come back to the bar and nightclub thing.
01:22:39.980 Um, so let me ask, have you guys ever done that?
01:22:43.960 Have you had success with that?
01:22:45.140 Where like, you go up to a guy for your girlfriend and you're like, hey, did you see my friend
01:22:48.700 over there?
01:22:49.320 She thinks you're cute.
01:22:50.760 Like, say what's up or say hi or, okay.
01:22:55.000 You've done that.
01:22:55.780 You've done that.
01:22:56.380 Have you done that?
01:22:58.180 No.
01:22:58.900 Have you done that?
01:23:01.780 Uh, you've done that.
01:23:02.880 Yes.
01:23:03.220 What about you?
01:23:04.960 Me?
01:23:05.880 Over here?
01:23:07.100 A long time ago, yes.
01:23:08.740 Okay.
01:23:09.040 You've done that?
01:23:10.000 No.
01:23:11.260 Okay.
01:23:11.700 No.
01:23:12.020 Was it successful?
01:23:13.080 Like, did the guy?
01:23:14.200 Yeah.
01:23:14.600 Yeah.
01:23:14.800 Yeah.
01:23:15.100 Like, my friend got his number, yeah.
01:23:16.880 Yeah.
01:23:18.060 Yeah, he approached.
01:23:20.900 Worked?
01:23:21.620 Sometimes.
01:23:22.440 Okay.
01:23:22.700 I have a question for you guys.
01:23:24.720 If a guy came up to you and said, hey, do you see my guy friend over there?
01:23:31.680 Mm-hmm.
01:23:32.640 He's, he likes you.
01:23:34.280 He's a bit shy.
01:23:37.040 Go talk to him.
01:23:38.220 What's your response?
01:23:39.960 Um, I'd be like, oh, okay.
01:23:41.940 And then I would go talk to him.
01:23:42.960 If it was like, I was looking.
01:23:43.980 Stop the cap.
01:23:44.720 Oh, I mean, if they were, like, if they were attractive enough, like, in my, like, like,
01:23:50.060 and I thought, like, oh, they could dress well, and I, like, liked their vibe they're
01:23:53.900 giving off, yeah, I would go talk to them.
01:23:55.740 Okay.
01:23:56.780 If they were hot, I'd be like, tell them to get over here.
01:23:59.680 Yeah.
01:23:59.960 Yeah.
01:23:59.980 Or, like, wave them over.
01:24:00.360 Let's have a conversation.
01:24:01.520 Yeah, like, if they were cute.
01:24:04.320 Yeah.
01:24:04.760 Why don't you believe that?
01:24:06.060 I know.
01:24:06.440 I feel like I would totally do that.
01:24:08.180 Like, 100%.
01:24:08.980 I think you, I mean, you might, if you're, you can add all in, oh, he has to be attractive
01:24:13.000 and all this stuff.
01:24:14.120 Um, I do think that you would be turned off if a guy had to have his friend sent on his
01:24:21.160 behalf.
01:24:21.520 You would much prefer the guy to just have the confidence.
01:24:24.200 I don't think I would really care, like, if I saw someone who was, like, like, attractive
01:24:28.060 and they were, like, friend told me, like, oh, they find you attractive.
01:24:30.780 If anything, I'd be like, whoa, this person finds me attractive.
01:24:33.460 I would like to talk to them.
01:24:34.680 Okay.
01:24:34.860 All things being equal, would you prefer the guy to just have the confidence to just go up
01:24:38.880 to you to begin with?
01:24:39.960 Yes, of course.
01:24:41.040 Okay.
01:24:41.740 You wouldn't, there wouldn't be some part of you that's like, why, why didn't he just
01:24:46.080 come up myself?
01:24:47.960 I would probably say that to him.
01:24:49.560 Why didn't he just come up to me?
01:24:50.720 Like, oh, yeah, yeah.
01:24:51.600 Right.
01:24:52.120 Yeah.
01:24:53.040 In a flirty way.
01:24:54.160 Yeah, but so the guy comes up to you and he says, oh, my friend's really shy and he's
01:24:58.720 kind of, you see him kind of nervous there in the same way that your girlfriend might
01:25:03.140 be kind of nervous.
01:25:04.320 Oh, yeah.
01:25:04.780 So that's why I feel like I would understand it more because I, like, I might be nervous and sometimes
01:25:08.080 I'd want my girlfriends to do it for me.
01:25:10.300 I'm sorry.
01:25:10.920 I can't.
01:25:11.280 Wait, do you think the wing woman thing doesn't work or?
01:25:13.360 No.
01:25:13.660 Well, what I'm saying is, is that the situation that you described where you as the wing woman,
01:25:18.560 you go up to a guy and you say, hey, my friend over there, my girlfriend over there thinks
01:25:22.220 you're cute.
01:25:23.220 That would almost, I can't imagine why that would not work on a guy.
01:25:26.740 No guy's going to be like, what is she a wuss?
01:25:29.940 Why can't she just?
01:25:31.240 However, I can definitely see girls being like, well, if he's the type of guy that doesn't
01:25:35.520 have the confidence to just come up to me and he's sending his guy friend to do it,
01:25:40.680 I'm just not interested.
01:25:42.000 If he's in the corner shaking like a chihuahua and he looks scared, yeah, I'm probably not
01:25:47.000 going to approach him.
01:25:47.580 But if he looks cool, he's with his buddies.
01:25:50.180 And honestly, if he's attractive to me, there's not much stopping me from.
01:25:54.740 Sure.
01:25:55.340 Okay.
01:25:56.860 Just sort of a little tangent there, just because it was interesting you brought that
01:25:59.540 up and I thought the reverse, it just wouldn't, it wouldn't work.
01:26:05.020 Perhaps it could, but more likely than not, it's just as a guy, the best thing to do is
01:26:10.300 just to go up.
01:26:11.300 So let's bring it back to the bar and club and party thing.
01:26:14.700 So did you get to say, do you think it's insecure if?
01:26:18.160 Yeah, I said, I feel like it could be.
01:26:19.780 Like, I mean, obviously it depends on the situation, but yeah.
01:26:22.460 Okay.
01:26:23.260 If he doesn't want his girlfriend to go out to bars and clubs and parties.
01:26:25.740 I mean, I feel like some scenarios would be very valid and understandable, but I'm sure
01:26:30.060 some scenarios are also pure insecurity.
01:26:33.400 Okay.
01:26:34.020 Well, so I would say this, what I think, and I've heard this from a few women, you know,
01:26:38.880 they'll say, oh, that's insecure.
01:26:40.400 That's insecurity.
01:26:41.720 What you call insecurity, I call having a boundary.
01:26:45.680 So I think it's just a boundary.
01:26:48.700 And I think that's completely fine if a guy's like, hey, look, I have a boundary and I don't
01:26:52.680 want you going out at all.
01:26:54.160 And like, that's where I'm going to draw the line.
01:26:56.120 And like, if you don't want to be with me, then you don't want to be with me.
01:26:58.380 And I feel like it's completely fine for the girl or someone else to be like, okay, well
01:27:01.700 then I don't want to be with you.
01:27:03.140 And that's where we have different boundaries and that's completely fine.
01:27:06.080 Sure.
01:27:06.380 And like, I appreciate you setting a boundary, but I'm not going to go for it.
01:27:09.600 Especially the culture at this age, like a lot of people go out on the weekends.
01:27:13.520 So if you're not part of that, you're just, it's like, what are you doing?
01:27:17.780 If he, if it's not for a reason that he wants to be with you outside of the party, he just
01:27:23.340 expects you to sit at home alone when everyone else is out like socializing.
01:27:29.240 Or, I mean, or with him.
01:27:31.080 Well, that's what I'm saying.
01:27:31.740 If he wants time with you, I think that's totally valid.
01:27:34.620 Right.
01:27:34.900 But perhaps there's a weekend he can't hang out, but he still doesn't, you know.
01:27:39.000 But he wants you just to quit all of it.
01:27:41.500 Yeah.
01:27:42.680 Yeah.
01:27:43.000 So just to have a relationship between the two of you, not really having other people.
01:27:46.760 Well, you can have friends, but.
01:27:48.340 But they're all going out together.
01:27:50.220 Well, I, with these environments, people go out to parties, people go out to clubs, people
01:27:56.600 go out to bars.
01:27:58.860 Perhaps not the full and exclusive reason, but a big reason is to meet people.
01:28:03.400 For sure.
01:28:03.920 They're, they're quite literally social gatherings.
01:28:06.420 Yeah, for sure.
01:28:07.000 Because if, if you just wanted to hang out with your girlfriends, you could just, and I
01:28:10.200 know, look, some girls do this, but why not just get a ball of wine, hang out at your
01:28:16.920 house, it's warm, it's safe, it's comfortable, and just hang out.
01:28:22.060 Also, I, if there was like an all, I mean, I could be wrong, but most women who are single
01:28:27.540 would not go to a bar if it was like only women in the bar.
01:28:31.640 Oh, I would.
01:28:32.860 A hundred percent.
01:28:33.560 Come on.
01:28:34.020 I literally saw something on my For You page, or like on TikTok the other day, where it's
01:28:37.260 like, we threw an all girls party, and it was like, a band was playing, and it was just
01:28:41.000 all girls.
01:28:41.820 I feel like that'd be really fun, like just to go for your outfit.
01:28:44.700 Well, I think some of you might be bi, so maybe that wouldn't be the worst thing.
01:28:47.680 Yeah.
01:28:48.060 But, um, I would say a lot of, oh, here we go.
01:28:51.780 Dragon Stanley 1,001 super chatted $50.
01:28:56.040 Did it ever occur to any of you that he is trying to protect you from getting into bad situations
01:29:01.640 that will kill your relationship?
01:29:03.280 So, I mean, my recommendation to men is, is just don't be in a serious relationship
01:29:09.880 with a woman who doesn't realize the importance of limiting their own behavior to protect the
01:29:15.820 relationship.
01:29:16.980 Yeah.
01:29:17.600 Like, I don't know, if you respect your partner, you don't engage in activities essentially
01:29:21.820 designed for single people.
01:29:26.860 I, but I think that the bar and nightlife is just part of young people's culture.
01:29:32.560 I mean, I wish it wasn't.
01:29:34.580 I wish more people weren't drinking so much, and I wish there was more, like, outdoor activities
01:29:38.420 to do.
01:29:38.680 But, like, in New York City, that's the main thing to do.
01:29:41.120 You don't go on hikes.
01:29:42.080 So, if other people, if everyone else is doing it, I feel like going out once in a while is
01:29:48.820 just, like, not, it's not something that's going to kill your relationship.
01:29:53.620 Like, you could be put in situations where a guy comes up to you and flirts with you.
01:29:57.600 Because, yes, but that can happen anywhere.
01:30:00.020 I mean, I get approached at the doctor.
01:30:01.680 So, you can, as a girl, you can be approached anywhere by a guy flirting with you.
01:30:05.800 Yes, that's, that's true.
01:30:08.240 What about, what about if you're in her situation where she's sober?
01:30:11.820 Yeah.
01:30:12.100 She's very well aware, and I'm just, it's just a general question.
01:30:15.440 She's very well aware of her surroundings.
01:30:17.160 She's very well aware of what's going on around her.
01:30:20.040 Would a guy feel more comfortable if their girlfriend, wife, fiance, significant other
01:30:26.160 was sober?
01:30:27.660 Would that be a difference?
01:30:30.040 It helps a bit.
01:30:31.460 I mean, me personally, I really don't drink.
01:30:34.160 I don't smoke.
01:30:35.380 I don't do drugs.
01:30:36.100 I don't go to bars.
01:30:36.940 I don't go to clubs.
01:30:37.660 I don't go to parties.
01:30:38.540 So, just on that one metric alone, I want reciprocity in a partner.
01:30:44.460 But, I mean, it's definitely a pro for me if a girl, like, doesn't drink or drinks in
01:30:51.460 moderation, drinks rarely.
01:30:54.020 But, it's, it's better than her going to the club and getting fucking tanked.
01:30:59.000 But, it's still, for me, it's still a little bit, like, iffy, you know?
01:31:04.720 So, yeah.
01:31:07.560 But, you mentioned, like, you get hit on at the doctor, right?
01:31:11.400 Like, I'm sure, I don't know if any of you go to, like, Trader Joe's.
01:31:13.920 Yeah.
01:31:15.120 Maybe you get a pro, I don't know if you've been approached.
01:31:17.620 Maybe, right?
01:31:18.420 You've been approached at TJ's.
01:31:19.660 Yeah, a couple times.
01:31:19.860 Okay, so, yeah, you can, like, I'm not, I wouldn't say, like, oh, you can't go to
01:31:25.940 Trader Joe's in case some guy hits on you.
01:31:28.460 It has to do specifically with these very, very specific environments, which there's
01:31:34.100 alcohol involved, there's, I mean, there's partying, there's drugs.
01:31:39.920 People do go to these environments, both men and women, not all of them, but do go to
01:31:44.840 these environments with the intention of maybe hooking up, maybe getting laid, maybe
01:31:49.280 meeting somebody, whereas nobody goes to Trader Joe's on Tuesday at 3 p.m., like, man, I
01:31:55.700 really hope, like, I meet a dude at fucking Trader Joe's.
01:32:00.560 Like, no, you don't have that intention in mind, but if you go to a bar and a club and
01:32:04.000 you're single, like, there's somewhere in the back of your mind where it's like, oh,
01:32:07.920 I might meet, like, a really hot guy tonight.
01:32:09.700 Like, there is that component to it.
01:32:11.980 And even if there's not, there's a much greater likelihood that, well, it's not a
01:32:16.800 likelihood, it's almost a certainty if you go to a party, bar, or club that a guy's
01:32:21.520 going to hit on you, a guy's going to approach you.
01:32:24.000 So even if you're in a relationship, like, guys are still going to hit on you and you
01:32:29.660 could potentially be put in a compromising position.
01:32:31.860 Also, I don't think any girl has ever gone to Trader Joe's and gotten finger banged by
01:32:39.760 some random hot dude she met in the frozen food section.
01:32:42.160 Well, I'm hoping people in relationships aren't going to bars and getting finger banged in
01:32:45.900 the bathroom.
01:32:46.820 No, but the difference between, like, Trader Joe's, like, going out to Trader Joe's and
01:32:52.400 going out to a bar or club is, for example, if you're single, bra, I've seen some shit.
01:32:57.080 I'm sure you guys have seen some shit at parties, people fucking on couches in the
01:33:01.700 middle of the party.
01:33:02.720 Dude, I've seen some crazy shit at parties, bars, and clubs.
01:33:06.920 So people ain't, like, it ain't going down at Trader Joe's at 3 p.m.
01:33:12.360 My father goes to Trader Joe's to get, to pick up women.
01:33:14.760 To get some pussy?
01:33:15.220 Yes.
01:33:15.800 For sure.
01:33:16.860 Okay, well, your dad's a fucking legend.
01:33:18.780 Good for him.
01:33:19.320 Yeah.
01:33:20.640 So, okay.
01:33:22.860 Okay, but it's just such a, bars, clubs, and parties are such specific environments where
01:33:29.460 people go with the, perhaps, anticipation that they're going to meet someone.
01:33:34.760 And I would also add to this, have any of you, do any of you have girlfriends or maybe
01:33:39.440 guy friends who you've heard that either their boyfriend or girlfriend cheated on them
01:33:45.340 at a bar, at a club, at a party?
01:33:50.060 You guys have friends who have been cheated on, I assume, right?
01:33:52.860 Yeah.
01:33:53.680 Well, did it happen at Trader Joe's or did it happen at a party?
01:33:58.600 Oops, I made out with somebody, I was drunk, oops, like, oops, I, it just happened.
01:34:05.080 I mean, like, it still can happen, period.
01:34:07.000 Like, I was shooting on them, nothing to do with a party, nothing to do with Trader Joe's.
01:34:10.780 Sure, a girl could download.
01:34:12.500 But alcohol or anything like that, like, it was purely just the person.
01:34:15.820 Like, yes, it can certainly happen in outside context.
01:34:18.620 Like, it could happen some guy hits on her at school or she's, answers a DM, you know,
01:34:27.080 fucking Drake slides in, goodbye, boyfriend.
01:34:30.260 Like, if they cheated at a party, they were going to cheat.
01:34:33.360 Yeah, regardless.
01:34:34.220 Either way, I think they would have, and that relationship was not meant to be, that relationship
01:34:37.840 was not secure enough to be something more.
01:34:41.020 They were going to cheat.
01:34:41.920 So it's like you're putting them in that environment, so what?
01:34:44.760 If they do cheat, that's on them and that shows who they are.
01:34:47.300 But has anyone, has anyone ever made a mistake?
01:34:50.580 Like, people cheat, like, they regret it later.
01:34:54.340 But I feel like.
01:34:54.700 And alcohol is involved.
01:34:56.480 If you're, if you know you're going to be in a relationship, you should know, like, that
01:35:00.600 you, as a person, like, won't, like, I feel like cheating is, gets excused as a mistake,
01:35:05.380 but it really isn't.
01:35:06.180 It's something, like, you're super conscious about and no matter whether you're drunk or
01:35:09.580 not, like, you know.
01:35:11.140 There was a thought before.
01:35:12.020 There's, like, a thought.
01:35:12.740 Everyone has a thought where, like, hey, look, I have another person that I'm actually
01:35:15.720 dating and I'm about to do this right now.
01:35:17.580 Like, you have to do that yes or no.
01:35:19.380 And regardless of whether or not they do that yes or no, it just shows whether or not they
01:35:22.900 were going to cheat, period.
01:35:23.660 It doesn't matter whether they're at a club, at a beach, at someone's house.
01:35:27.100 They were going to cheat regardless.
01:35:29.640 I'm, there is, there is a component of, of cheating.
01:35:34.240 But even if you have no intention of cheating or cheating doesn't occur, well, first off, I
01:35:39.280 would say if you're putting yourself, you are kind of putting yourself out there and
01:35:45.500 you are, you are putting the relationship at risk to a degree because honestly, all it
01:35:56.040 takes, all it takes is a really attractive guy to step to you and talk to you in the
01:36:01.600 right sort of way.
01:36:02.620 And maybe you had an argument with your boyfriend.
01:36:05.020 Maybe things are a little rocky and you're going to cheat.
01:36:09.580 No, I think if you love someone, I don't think you want to cheat.
01:36:12.980 I think if you love someone, you only see them in your eyes.
01:36:15.900 Do you think someone, do you think someone has loved someone in, so in the, in the entire
01:36:21.440 history of humanity, nobody has ever cheated on someone that they loved?
01:36:25.520 I feel like there's always exceptions.
01:36:27.220 I, yeah.
01:36:28.000 Yeah, I mean, there's exceptions, obviously, like a hundred percent.
01:36:31.820 Well, I had a friend in high school where we were at her house getting ready and her and
01:36:37.040 her boyfriend got in a huge blowout fight.
01:36:39.360 He wasn't really the best to her, um, they were young, um, and she went out feeling really
01:36:47.600 bad about herself and we went to this party and this guy smooth talked her really well
01:36:53.120 and she was like, it's the best I've heard, like, in the past, I don't even remember what
01:36:57.960 she even said, how long they were together, but, and then she ended up cheating and I was
01:37:02.640 just kind of like, okay, so part of it was an accident because she, he'd smooth talked
01:37:10.840 to her really well and then the other part of me was, she was mad at him, so there must
01:37:15.180 have been some intent to cheat.
01:37:17.180 But, yeah.
01:37:17.720 I mean, you preface that he didn't treat her right.
01:37:19.940 Yeah.
01:37:20.100 If you're going out with the intention.
01:37:21.740 Of, like, I'm going to get payback or it's going to be even, it's like, that is definitely
01:37:25.340 her with her intentions wanting that, like, I feel like if I was, I definitely wouldn't
01:37:29.240 It matters what intention you go out with when you're going out on the
01:37:32.640 town.
01:37:32.940 I mean, most single people are going out with the intention of getting laid and most people
01:37:38.160 that are in relationships hopefully are just there to hang out with their friends or, like,
01:37:42.080 I just know that huge groups of friends, male and women, like, if you work at a restaurant,
01:37:47.200 all those people go get post-ship drinks and that's, like, part of them becoming better
01:37:51.840 friends.
01:37:52.460 You work with those people, you mingle with those people and if you're not going out with
01:37:56.500 them, you're not, like, part of the group as much.
01:38:00.380 Okay.
01:38:00.780 Look, it's just, I think it's really just ultimately also, it's just a bad look.
01:38:07.720 It's a bad look.
01:38:10.440 You know, hold on, I had to, I'm trying to think what I was aiming for here.
01:38:16.560 I lost my shit.
01:38:17.560 I lost my notes.
01:38:18.180 Sorry, guys.
01:38:18.580 It's a bad look to go out to the bars and party when you're in a relationship with your
01:38:25.160 single friends is what you're saying.
01:38:27.320 Yeah, because I think single friends are, like, the worst influences.
01:38:31.200 Oh, I can attest.
01:38:31.960 Are terrible influences.
01:38:33.780 They probably don't.
01:38:34.320 Oh, actually.
01:38:34.800 Well, let me just finish really quick.
01:38:36.480 Hold on.
01:38:36.960 Dank nake super chatted $50.
01:38:40.060 Cheaters will cheat, but you girls need to concede that going to clubs and bars enables
01:38:45.040 cheating.
01:38:46.120 There is a connection with cheating and living a promiscuous lifestyle while being in a relationship.
01:38:51.860 There's thing you do and don't do in a relationship.
01:38:54.300 Yeah, I mean, I, my view is, is that you're putting, by doing this, you're putting the
01:39:00.520 relationship at risk and you're free to do whatever you want.
01:39:03.480 I wouldn't control you.
01:39:04.780 I just, you would no longer be my girlfriend.
01:39:07.300 And a lot of guys, when it comes to commitment, a lot of guys are going to look at a girl that
01:39:11.200 parties and clubs and bars.
01:39:12.660 And by the way, women can feel the same way about men too.
01:39:16.140 So it's, I don't have a double standard on this as a, there's a bit of a difference because
01:39:19.920 the degree.
01:39:21.500 Hold on.
01:39:21.900 M. Martin super chatted $50.
01:39:23.780 Thank you, Martin.
01:39:24.940 Ladies, the point Brian is making is that you're governed by your emotions.
01:39:29.260 Is it, is that one?
01:39:29.980 Emotional people make impulsive decisions.
01:39:33.160 You're acting like it's not too epidemic right now.
01:39:36.400 To delusionally believe that you are above it all is just weird.
01:39:41.300 Your response is to Martin.
01:39:43.240 I'm kind of confused with what he said, but like.
01:39:46.420 Well, he's saying like, if you're in your emotions, you're, there's an impulsivity.
01:39:51.900 There.
01:39:52.740 And when you, if you're drinking and there's a fucking bright lights and excitement and
01:39:57.940 your friends are amping you up and you're dancing to the newest.
01:40:01.760 Those emotions are heightened.
01:40:02.920 Yeah.
01:40:03.160 You're all amped up.
01:40:03.900 Obviously, I think like if you're in a relationship, you shouldn't be getting hammered like to the
01:40:08.320 point of no return.
01:40:09.260 You know what I mean?
01:40:09.740 Like you should still have that level of sobriety there.
01:40:12.300 So you like understand like whether like what decisions you're making or what you're doing.
01:40:17.400 Like, you know what I mean?
01:40:18.780 Yeah.
01:40:19.300 So I think the point I was making before the TTS came in is that I wouldn't control a girl.
01:40:25.960 I just, I just would choose not to be in a relationship with a girl that wanted to party all the time.
01:40:33.240 And that's assuming you don't party either.
01:40:35.180 Yeah.
01:40:35.360 I don't party either.
01:40:36.060 So I'm not going to be up in the club.
01:40:37.320 I mean, that makes sense.
01:40:37.960 That makes sense.
01:40:38.280 You guys are more compatible if she's not a partier.
01:40:40.400 But if you have guys that want to party, they, yeah, their girls are going to party.
01:40:44.840 Yeah.
01:40:45.080 I totally agree with that.
01:40:46.080 So I don't, well, it's weird.
01:40:47.120 Honestly, I think it's weird when you see like couples and shit in the club.
01:40:50.120 I definitely see that.
01:40:51.140 That shit.
01:40:51.260 Like, why y'all just stay home and watch Netflix?
01:40:54.040 The fuck?
01:40:54.280 But they're like, they're like devout partiers, you know?
01:40:57.840 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:40:58.660 They're out here partying at EOS every weekend.
01:41:02.560 I feel like too, like the times that I did go out after my breakup or yeah, after my breakup,
01:41:13.260 all of my ex's friends or just because Santa Barbara is a small town, like everybody was
01:41:18.100 there and if we had been together still and I was at that club and all these guys were
01:41:24.040 like, all of his friends were like looking at me, I feel like they'd also be texting him
01:41:27.820 like, yo, what's your girl doing out here?
01:41:30.120 You know, like it's that much more of a look.
01:41:33.740 I don't know.
01:41:34.920 And also like one thing I think about is like, let's say I was in the club at a party with
01:41:40.980 one of you guys, but I was just like standing across the way.
01:41:43.940 Like I was, I was away from you and like, I guess if what is happening would make me
01:41:50.740 uncomfortable if I, if I was, let's say I'm not in the club, but let's say I, I was, but
01:41:57.580 I was at a distance and I was like observing what was occurring.
01:42:01.220 If something was happening that would like, I would be uncomfortable.
01:42:05.600 I almost feel like you just probably shouldn't be participating in it because like, here's
01:42:10.620 the thing.
01:42:10.900 There's some things that might happen and this isn't your fault, but like, if you go
01:42:14.620 to like a party or a bar or club, people are dancing and shit.
01:42:17.580 Like dudes are going to like come up and this is not your fault.
01:42:21.100 I'm not putting the blame on you, but guys are drunk.
01:42:22.880 Maybe they get a little handsy.
01:42:24.360 They might try to dance up on you and shit.
01:42:26.580 Like that would make me uncomfortable if I saw that, even if I'm like, so I'm not there.
01:42:31.860 So it's kind of like if it was happening and it would make me uncomfortable, I don't think
01:42:36.360 you should be putting yourself in that position.
01:42:38.140 And again, I'm not putting the blame on you, but there are certain realities to going to
01:42:42.160 these type of environments where there's going to be some, you know, things happen, maybe
01:42:48.720 even not dancing up on you, touching you or whatever, but some guy's going to go up and
01:42:52.080 hit on you.
01:42:53.160 Like, and if I'm looking at it in the corner, like, I don't know if that's going to make,
01:42:58.080 that might make me uncomfortable, you know?
01:42:59.820 Well, and also I remember like in our age group or yeah, when I still lived in Ivy and
01:43:06.900 Santa Barbara, a lot of these girls and guys are freshly out of the house and they had no,
01:43:15.360 like they had so many rules over them when they lived at home that now that they're here,
01:43:19.740 they don't give a fuck.
01:43:20.580 Yeah.
01:43:20.940 Like, you know, so if my boyfriend or whatever were to tell me, Hey, I'm going out to Ivy
01:43:28.140 or I'm going out to a club and I know a bunch of young girls who have always had rules over
01:43:33.440 their heads, we're going to be around.
01:43:35.660 Like, I'm just going to part of maybe call me insecure, but I'm going to be like, I already
01:43:39.580 know like what's about to go down and it does come down to trust at a certain extent, but
01:43:44.820 it's also just embarrassing.
01:43:46.660 It's just like, I don't want to think about it, you know?
01:43:50.200 Yeah.
01:43:50.640 By the way, guys, get your super chats and I am going to read them soon.
01:43:53.120 Sorry for the delay on reading them.
01:43:54.440 Just the conversation has been flowing and we do need to continue with the dating app
01:43:59.360 reviews.
01:44:00.120 I guess just really last thing on the bar and bar and club thing.
01:44:02.960 Have any of you ever dated like a guy who's really protective of you?
01:44:06.680 Yes.
01:44:07.220 Like territorial, really protective.
01:44:09.460 Did you, did you like it?
01:44:10.980 Not like it?
01:44:11.900 At times.
01:44:12.740 I mean, there are certain things that I like, oh yeah, that's very attractive, but it depends.
01:44:16.440 Have you, did you ever go out with your boyfriend?
01:44:18.920 Yes.
01:44:19.280 Was there ever a situation where like maybe he stepped away for a sec and then like a
01:44:24.760 guy had approached you or something at a party?
01:44:27.380 Like has a guy, has it ever like resulted in a fight or anything?
01:44:34.200 You're shaking your head.
01:44:35.220 Yes.
01:44:35.620 We'll get to you.
01:44:36.240 Like in a relationship or the fight between us?
01:44:37.620 Yeah.
01:44:37.720 Like let's say you were at a party with your guy and maybe he steps away and some dude
01:44:40.880 steps to you.
01:44:41.940 Oh yeah.
01:44:41.960 It started in the fight.
01:44:42.960 It started fights.
01:44:43.800 Like a big one.
01:44:44.200 Yeah.
01:44:45.000 What have you had an experience similar to that?
01:44:47.580 What about you?
01:44:48.300 Three weeks.
01:44:50.080 I know it's tough.
01:44:51.080 You're going, it's soon.
01:44:52.580 It's coming.
01:44:53.260 I feel it.
01:44:53.880 I've got an intuition.
01:44:55.400 I've got an intuition.
01:44:56.600 Go ahead.
01:44:58.320 Yes.
01:44:59.780 Tell us like the quick story.
01:45:01.500 Well, mine was weird.
01:45:03.200 It like wasn't really like a club or a party or anything like that.
01:45:09.060 It was more like a kickback and I invited my boyfriend and honestly, I was really drunk,
01:45:16.680 so I don't remember at exactly what point he got mad, but he got really mad.
01:45:23.640 And it was weird because it was all my best friends there and their boyfriends was like
01:45:29.460 the entire setting.
01:45:30.400 So like everyone who was there had someone they were with and I don't know.
01:45:37.360 Yeah.
01:45:37.660 My fight was pretty bad as well.
01:45:39.300 Like, I didn't think it needed to be that bad.
01:45:41.860 Like, can you tell us a little story?
01:45:43.360 Like what happened?
01:45:43.920 I was at a party for like one of my friends and then we were all there.
01:45:47.820 He was there with me.
01:45:48.740 He was talking to one of his guy friends and a friend of ours that we both know came up
01:45:52.880 to me and he completely forgot he didn't know him.
01:45:55.840 He was like drunk and he like said hi to me and I was like, oh, hey, what's up?
01:45:59.820 And then when he then like the guy left and he pulled me aside and he was like, who was
01:46:05.040 that?
01:46:05.360 And I was like, oh, it was blah, blah, blah.
01:46:06.780 Like, you know him.
01:46:07.540 Like, we both know him.
01:46:08.520 He's our friend.
01:46:09.120 And he was like really pissed that I didn't like immediately like call him over or I don't
01:46:15.060 know.
01:46:15.240 Like I didn't make him in the conversation even though all we said was hi and bye.
01:46:18.760 But and we had to like step outside because he got like super mad about it and it like
01:46:23.800 led to us leaving early and stuff like that.
01:46:26.660 So what happened?
01:46:28.860 There was a there's just one of our friends came up to us and that he was just kind of mad
01:46:32.120 that like I he wasn't involved in the conversation.
01:46:35.060 I honestly don't know what triggered him, but he he was like a whole nother ordeal.
01:46:39.240 Like we got in fights.
01:46:41.200 Did your boyfriend get sparked up?
01:46:42.660 I'm just confused.
01:46:43.540 Yeah.
01:46:43.780 He kind of just like got mad about the fact like the fact that he saw me talking to another
01:46:47.560 guy from across the party like triggered him.
01:46:49.480 Oh, you're OK.
01:46:50.060 Your boyfriend got mad.
01:46:50.960 OK.
01:46:51.100 Yeah.
01:46:51.260 Yeah.
01:46:51.420 My boyfriend got mad.
01:46:52.160 And it was a physical fight.
01:46:53.700 No.
01:46:54.240 Oh, no, no, no.
01:46:54.980 OK.
01:46:55.220 But it could have been.
01:46:56.500 Yeah.
01:46:57.120 OK.
01:46:57.920 A lot of fights go down because something, you know, well, not always some dumbass could bump into
01:47:04.800 somebody else.
01:47:05.560 But a lot of times there's a kind of a love interest involved.
01:47:09.780 But OK.
01:47:11.240 So I want to ask at a party, like has a guy ever crossed the line with you at a party?
01:47:18.380 Maybe got a little handsy.
01:47:19.920 Maybe he was a little too forward with how he was speaking to you.
01:47:22.000 Maybe he was being disrespectful, called you a name.
01:47:24.540 You know, guys, you know, sometimes look, no excuse for it.
01:47:28.440 But when people get drunk, sometimes they run their mouth a little bit.
01:47:31.300 Not an excuse, but not just to be clear, 100 percent, not your fault.
01:47:36.200 But has that ever happened to you?
01:47:37.680 A guy's gotten handsy or ran his mouth a little bit.
01:47:40.920 Yes.
01:47:41.780 Yeah.
01:47:43.760 Yeah.
01:47:44.360 Into the mic.
01:47:44.960 Yes.
01:47:45.200 Just I need a yes.
01:47:45.880 Yes.
01:47:46.180 100 percent.
01:47:46.880 Yes.
01:47:47.600 Absolutely.
01:47:49.420 No, not really.
01:47:50.920 Oh, OK.
01:47:52.700 OK.
01:47:52.880 Usually, usually like every time I've been approached at a party, I like the guy catches
01:47:59.340 the vibe pretty well.
01:48:00.400 Like if I'm interested or if I'm not.
01:48:03.460 OK, sure.
01:48:04.520 I haven't gone to a party in a while, so I don't know.
01:48:07.120 Yeah.
01:48:07.300 And for any of you, for any of you who have had that situation happen to you, were you
01:48:13.760 like with a guy, like talk at maybe a guy you were interested in?
01:48:17.580 Not he didn't do it to you, but like some other dude did.
01:48:20.800 Like for you, there was that one time with your boyfriend.
01:48:23.460 So, I mean, this is just another reason why, again, it's not your fault, but like that
01:48:28.220 shit happens.
01:48:28.860 And we like men, we want to like protect our girl.
01:48:31.840 Like we don't want our girl to be in like.
01:48:34.260 And again, it's not your fault.
01:48:35.660 But like in these situations, like guys are being dickheads.
01:48:38.940 They're getting drunk.
01:48:39.840 Like some of them get handsy and shit.
01:48:41.400 We don't want our girls like being victimized in that way.
01:48:44.500 So it's not.
01:48:46.460 It's like just us wanting to protect you, basically.
01:48:48.480 Like it's not some like controlling thing.
01:48:50.700 Like we just want you to be safe and like, cause we know fucking what, what goes on in
01:48:55.340 these environments.
01:48:56.220 And more specifically, actually, did you want to come in?
01:48:59.040 No, I was going to say like, well, if that's the main issue, shouldn't like we, you as guys
01:49:03.100 be like talking to your friends and be like, why are you guys with those guys in the first
01:49:06.920 place?
01:49:07.160 Guys who get handsy, guys who cross the line, like you guys should be telling them.
01:49:10.620 Cause it's not us.
01:49:11.840 We're just there.
01:49:12.720 And if they're the, like the persons who are crossing the line, that's a total, it's
01:49:16.880 like an issue with that.
01:49:18.440 I mean, in an ideal world, yes.
01:49:21.060 But should war not exist?
01:49:24.280 Should, should crime not exist?
01:49:26.600 Absolutely.
01:49:27.200 Should people not commit crimes?
01:49:28.900 But as a, whether you're a man or woman, you, you do need to take some degree of proactivity
01:49:34.620 in the situations you put yourself in.
01:49:37.420 For example, me, even like as a guy, there are certain parts of town, there are certain
01:49:41.760 areas in this country that I'm not going to walk through at 2 a.m., 3 a.m. in the morning.
01:49:48.120 You know, so I think there is some degree of accountability and self-responsibility.
01:49:53.200 Would it be wonderful if there, like I said, there's no crime, no war?
01:49:57.000 Sure.
01:49:57.340 But, you know, if I'm going to maybe think like, okay, if I'm walking in a certain area,
01:50:03.420 I'm going to maybe take a certain route or I'm going to have friends with me or, you know,
01:50:10.180 I'm not going to put myself in certain positions.
01:50:12.720 For example, if, if I have like, let's say I have, let's say I have a Lamborghini.
01:50:22.380 Um, I'm not going to park that in a, like a dangerous part of town.
01:50:29.260 I'm not going to park that car in a dangerous, wait, there's a, there's a different way to
01:50:32.920 do this analogy.
01:50:33.600 But in any case, um, you know, if you, there does need to be accountability on both sides.
01:50:43.560 Should men be acting like pigs?
01:50:44.900 Absolutely not.
01:50:45.660 Um, should you maybe not like go to certain, uh, venues because there's a greater likelihood
01:50:52.420 of, uh, getting victimized?
01:50:55.560 Places do have reputations for sure.
01:50:57.980 Yeah.
01:50:58.100 Like I'm not going to walk through Compton at three, three AM.
01:51:01.300 Should I be victimized?
01:51:02.720 No, but I, and I'm, is Compton safe now?
01:51:05.720 I don't know.
01:51:06.160 But like, there's certain like parts where you just like, you, you need to take some accountability
01:51:11.800 and have agency and be like, assess the risk factor and be like, I'm not going to put myself
01:51:16.660 in this situation.
01:51:17.800 I mean, I think it's a little bit different because that's fear for your life over fear
01:51:21.220 of like maybe a guy coming on to you and something that someone could pull him away.
01:51:27.240 I mean, there's definitely worse things that can happen in bars for sure.
01:51:30.500 Sure.
01:51:30.960 Well, and just last thing on the whole bar and club thing.
01:51:33.140 And did you want to keep going?
01:51:34.120 Sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt you there.
01:51:35.120 Oh, I mean, it's, it's a public area, so it can't get too out of hand unless there's
01:51:40.880 definitely instances.
01:51:41.700 I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but you guys go out to IV, right?
01:51:44.580 Isla Vista.
01:51:45.120 Yeah.
01:51:45.640 You see, I'm sure you see fights every single night you go out.
01:51:49.180 Dudes are getting fucking sparked, getting permanent brain damage.
01:51:52.420 I've seen, you've never seen a dude knocked out fucking the ambulance has to come.
01:51:56.320 He's all fucked up.
01:51:57.400 Some dudes like people get permanent brain damage, like fighting, having, getting in drunk
01:52:03.060 fights.
01:52:03.620 Sometimes that's related to, uh, thank you, Martin.
01:52:08.180 Thank you.
01:52:08.520 Appreciate it.
01:52:08.980 It's about using you common sense.
01:52:11.660 If a chef cooks naked, he'll get grease burns all over.
01:52:15.340 If he cooks with his chef whites, maybe only his hands get burns.
01:52:20.240 Will it do away with burns altogether?
01:52:23.000 No, it's about mitigation.
01:52:25.720 Yeah.
01:52:25.860 And I just kind of, I guess, last thing on here before we get to the soup chats, guys,
01:52:29.140 sorry that we're slacking a little bit on soup chats.
01:52:31.060 We will get to them.
01:52:31.780 Just the last thing with the bars and clubs stuff.
01:52:33.420 So, gentlemen, I do not recommend, I think some of you said perhaps an antidote to the
01:52:40.900 whole, like, issue is, well, just go out with your girlfriend.
01:52:43.860 Guys, do not go out and party with your girl.
01:52:48.440 Do not.
01:52:49.200 It is a liability.
01:52:50.980 You, trust me, guys, it's a fucking liability.
01:52:53.260 Okay, let me, here, I'm going to ask a question just to perhaps prove this.
01:53:01.420 Well, I'll say this.
01:53:02.900 If some drunk dude gets handsy with your girl, she's going to look to you to intervene.
01:53:07.820 And, by the way, if you're a girl, like, if you're dating a masculine chick and a dude
01:53:14.040 gets handsy with her, she's going to talk to him and she's going to get aggressive.
01:53:17.940 And if he's aggressive, again, it's not her fault, but, like, you have to consider risk
01:53:22.440 factors here.
01:53:23.420 If a girl has a loud mouth and she talks shit to a dude, maybe some dude doesn't even get
01:53:29.480 handsy.
01:53:29.820 He just, like, calls her some dumb name.
01:53:32.360 He's drunk while passing by her.
01:53:33.800 And she's like, fuck you.
01:53:34.820 The guy turns around, he's going to spark you up first, and then he's, like, because
01:53:39.840 guys are not going to spark up a girl, but if the girl's with a guy, they're going to
01:53:43.620 say, the guy's the threat, fuck him up, and then, like, he'll, I don't know.
01:53:48.880 So, it's a liability to go out with a girl because if the girl gets heated with another
01:53:56.100 dude, then the dude's not going to spark her up.
01:53:59.100 She's going to spark you up.
01:54:00.260 So, let me ask you guys a question.
01:54:02.500 Do you guys watch MMA at all?
01:54:04.820 Yeah.
01:54:05.440 Do you know, like, the heavyweights, like, do you know Brock Lesnar?
01:54:08.640 Eric, can you find a picture of Brock Lesnar on the thing?
01:54:13.300 Oh, so the question is, let's say you're out with your boyfriend and, like, some dude is
01:54:18.000 other dude, random dude, disrespects you, maybe he's drunk, maybe he calls you a name.
01:54:22.760 I'm sure you guys have, like, experienced some obnoxious guy calls you some shit or whatever.
01:54:26.760 Would you want your boyfriend to step up and say something to him or intervene?
01:54:35.120 Depends on what the guy looks like.
01:54:36.800 Yeah.
01:54:36.820 By the way, so Brock Lesnar, just, well, we'll come back to Brock Lesnar.
01:54:40.940 We'll come back to Brock Lesnar.
01:54:41.940 You can hide it.
01:54:42.460 Would you want your guy to intervene if some guy stepped to you and, like, said some rude
01:54:48.920 comment to you?
01:54:50.360 No, unless he was getting, like, physical, then, yeah, I would want my boyfriend to intervene.
01:54:55.240 What if, like, some dude, let's say you're holding hands, walking with your boyfriend,
01:54:59.520 you're out, like, in IV, like, a party, and, like, some dude, like, grabs your butt, do
01:55:06.100 you want your boyfriend to, like, say something to him?
01:55:08.880 I mean, I could say something to him.
01:55:10.140 I don't really need my boyfriend to say something to him.
01:55:13.380 Okay.
01:55:14.300 What about you?
01:55:14.980 I mean, having being single most of my life, I feel like I could do it myself.
01:55:18.460 Yeah, I feel like I would be...
01:55:19.120 But let's say you're with your boyfriend.
01:55:20.600 Your boyfriend's holding your hand.
01:55:21.580 I would want both of us, probably, to say something.
01:55:23.460 Yeah, like, if he wants to say something...
01:55:24.300 I don't think I would put it just on him.
01:55:26.100 I would say something, but, like...
01:55:27.020 Sure.
01:55:27.740 If someone's getting physical, yes, I would like him to step in.
01:55:31.200 Okay.
01:55:31.620 What about you?
01:55:32.720 Yeah, I think I could, like, take care of it myself.
01:55:36.360 Okay.
01:55:37.500 What about you?
01:55:38.860 I'd want to be with someone who first attempted to de-escalate it, but then maybe did what
01:55:45.080 was necessary if it came down to it.
01:55:47.420 Sure.
01:55:47.660 What about you?
01:55:48.360 I feel like if there was no reaction at all from my boyfriend, then that would be, like,
01:55:52.200 major red flag.
01:55:54.040 I appreciate the honesty, but I think that would be the case for a lot of women.
01:55:57.020 And if, like, the guy just kind of didn't say anything, you'd be like, yo, I'm your partner.
01:56:03.000 Like, defend, you know, have my back, you know?
01:56:06.860 What about you?
01:56:07.480 You have a boyfriend, right?
01:56:08.620 I do.
01:56:09.080 So put yourself in that situation.
01:56:11.200 I have been in that situation with him.
01:56:15.060 Okay.
01:56:15.560 Yeah.
01:56:16.020 What happened?
01:56:17.220 So we don't go out often.
01:56:19.060 It's just for group gatherings.
01:56:20.900 You know, someone's moving away, whatever, birthdays.
01:56:24.740 Um, this one guy came up to me and kind of placed his hand around my waist while my boyfriend
01:56:31.620 was literally right there.
01:56:33.000 And granted, it was, everyone was packed at the bar trying to get a drink, whatever.
01:56:36.720 But I, the first, my immediate reaction, no matter what, is to swipe someone's hand away
01:56:43.220 because I don't like being touched personally.
01:56:45.860 Um, so I swiped his hand away.
01:56:48.160 I looked at him.
01:56:49.480 I looked at my boyfriend.
01:56:51.100 And my, my boyfriend's a scary motherfucker.
01:56:53.720 All he had to do.
01:56:54.780 I think I saw photos on.
01:56:55.360 Yeah.
01:56:55.840 He's a big boy.
01:56:56.940 Jacked.
01:56:57.200 Is he in the chat?
01:56:58.560 Uh, W's in the chat for, uh, for boyfriend.
01:57:03.420 Yeah.
01:57:04.080 Anyways, um, he's a scary motherfucker.
01:57:06.120 All he had to do was look at him and kind of say, what's up?
01:57:09.820 And that, that was, Oh, sorry.
01:57:12.380 Oh, what?
01:57:13.320 No, that's it.
01:57:13.820 Oh, that's what he did.
01:57:14.300 That's what he, Oh, my bad.
01:57:15.280 My bad, bro.
01:57:16.380 A lot of the times they, well, that also is pretty shitty.
01:57:19.300 They don't apologize to me.
01:57:20.460 They apologize to my boyfriend.
01:57:22.400 Oh, bro.
01:57:23.360 My bad, bro.
01:57:24.360 I'm like, well, it is kind of lame.
01:57:26.260 Like, I understand it's to save your ass from getting, you know, beat, but I mean.
01:57:31.120 Liv, what about you?
01:57:32.060 Come on.
01:57:32.980 I feel like, um, yeah, if he didn't say anything like at all, gave no reaction, I'd kind of
01:57:39.220 like look at him like, um, all right, but you don't like have, I'm not just talking about
01:57:45.640 IV, but anywhere you really don't know what to expect from some people.
01:57:49.060 Like they could have, they could have a knife on them.
01:57:52.240 And they could have, like, I don't think it should escalate more than it needs to say something.
01:57:56.740 Sure.
01:57:56.940 But if it starts getting physical, then just.
01:57:59.240 Sure.
01:57:59.780 You don't want it to get that.
01:58:00.840 Sure.
01:58:01.160 So you said that it would be a red flag.
01:58:02.820 Like if your boyfriend didn't kind of intervene or, you know, step up and do something right.
01:58:08.180 Maybe just show of hands would, for the rest of you would, would it be like, would you
01:58:12.360 want your boyfriend if some guy was disrespecting you to like come to your defense?
01:58:18.180 Yeah, it'd be nice.
01:58:19.580 Yeah.
01:58:19.800 I'd want him to acknowledge it.
01:58:21.200 Yeah.
01:58:21.720 Yeah.
01:58:22.420 Sure.
01:58:23.100 Eric, can you pull up the Brock Lesnar thing?
01:58:27.060 All right.
01:58:27.520 So Brock Lesnar, I think he's like six, four, six.
01:58:30.500 Can you find his stats?
01:58:33.000 His height and weight?
01:58:34.660 He's probably, he's a MMA fighter, heavyweight.
01:58:36.920 Um, and, uh, that guy says some disrespectful shit to you and get maybe, you know, he's
01:58:45.640 disrespectful, whatever.
01:58:48.840 If, if your boyfriend doesn't just spark him up right away, like, do you lose attraction
01:58:53.040 for your boyfriend?
01:58:54.180 No.
01:58:54.660 No.
01:58:55.240 That's a big story, dude.
01:58:56.880 His safety is above all else in that situation as well.
01:59:00.380 Yeah.
01:59:00.600 I'd be like, let's run.
01:59:01.580 Like, let's get out of here.
01:59:02.560 Yeah.
01:59:02.800 Uh, okay.
01:59:05.880 Uh, height, six, three, 287 pounds.
01:59:09.300 Yeah.
01:59:09.480 That's, uh, that's going to be a rip for, uh, wait, Francis and Ghanu.
01:59:13.880 Let's, can you get Francis and Ghanu too real quick?
01:59:16.640 Do you know how to spell that, Eric?
01:59:19.700 Francis and Ghanu.
01:59:21.040 Yeah.
01:59:21.740 Yeah.
01:59:22.260 Okay.
01:59:22.600 Francis and Ghanu heavyweight.
01:59:24.300 I think he's a heavyweight in a UFC.
01:59:26.860 He steps to you, uh, images, images, six, four, two 58.
01:59:32.800 Um, go ahead.
01:59:35.020 Whenever you're ready, Eric, this guy, what about this guy?
01:59:39.780 Still, you're five, nine, you're five, nine emo boyfriend.
01:59:43.760 I like skinny boys.
01:59:44.980 This is not a fight.
01:59:46.000 Okay.
01:59:46.920 Point.
01:59:47.400 Anyways, point being it's, it's a liability to, uh, it's a liability to go out to bars anyways.
01:59:52.500 Cause I see so many fights and just, you know, yeah.
01:59:56.660 Even without girls, like just going out with your boys, like, bro, people are drunk.
02:00:00.420 Some guys go out looking for fights.
02:00:02.780 I used to, I used to know like a couple of guys.
02:00:04.800 I wasn't like friends with them, but acquaintances that I knew, like they were just kind of aggressive
02:00:09.540 guys that just went out and like at the slightest, a guy accidentally bumps into him.
02:00:15.080 Boom.
02:00:15.600 Fucking.
02:00:15.920 And they're going to beat him up.
02:00:18.440 So be careful out there guys.
02:00:20.240 Um, me personally, I don't go to bars, clubs, not, I don't go to bars, clubs, parties, not
02:00:24.820 my thing.
02:00:25.680 Um, okay.
02:00:26.240 Let's get these, uh, super chats.
02:00:28.660 We'll do the dating app review.
02:00:29.960 And then I have a couple more questions for you guys.
02:00:31.920 Go ahead.
02:00:32.340 Uh, Eric.
02:00:33.140 Actually, um, do you have a good speaking voice?
02:00:36.660 I need to get up momentarily.
02:00:38.320 So what I'm going to have you do, um, I'll have you read the, uh, super chats.
02:00:43.160 Got it.
02:00:43.500 Okay.
02:00:43.720 Okay.
02:00:43.940 I need it to be real sultry ASMR voice.
02:00:47.560 So I'll pull one up for you and Eric, while I get up, I'm going to have you just pull them
02:00:51.360 up.
02:00:51.580 Uh, okay.
02:00:52.980 So, uh, okay.
02:00:55.800 Uh, you read the name and just read the name and then the question.
02:00:59.040 Michael Metro and questions for the ladies.
02:01:01.680 Does your body count matter to who?
02:01:04.360 To, for us.
02:01:05.100 Because who's, it's like, like, yeah, who doesn't matter to?
02:01:07.560 I think it, like, to ourself.
02:01:10.160 I think if they just are asking, like, if body count matters, period.
02:01:13.300 And, like, put a your in there.
02:01:15.560 Okay.
02:01:15.900 What do you guys think?
02:01:16.680 Does body count matter for you?
02:01:20.340 Um, I mean, I, I, I don't think I'd want someone in the hundreds, like, three hundreds,
02:01:27.120 but no, it doesn't really matter.
02:01:30.500 Yeah.
02:01:30.820 No.
02:01:32.020 No.
02:01:33.420 It doesn't really apply to me.
02:01:35.100 Yeah, me neither.
02:01:37.600 I think same is, like, yeah, to an extent it does.
02:01:41.860 Yeah.
02:01:42.220 Yeah.
02:01:42.840 Obviously.
02:01:43.600 But no.
02:01:44.760 Okay, next question.
02:01:48.860 Okay, okay.
02:01:51.940 Girl, I like a guy with a sense of humor.
02:01:54.120 What she really means.
02:01:54.960 I want to laugh when I make a friend.
02:01:58.420 Freudian.
02:01:59.620 Oh, okay, slip.
02:02:01.440 Example, him.
02:02:02.200 What do you want to do tonight?
02:02:03.560 Her, your brother.
02:02:05.820 Ha, that was a good joke.
02:02:07.100 Yeah.
02:02:07.380 Good one.
02:02:07.880 Strip, Freud.
02:02:08.860 Okay, next one.
02:02:10.620 What the fuck?
02:02:11.360 Um, the three people, the three points of life.
02:02:16.040 I recommend you ladies add this to your lives and relationships.
02:02:18.480 If y'all do, so it'll be much more easier for you.
02:02:21.600 We truly, the, we truly that simple ladies.
02:02:25.120 One, a piece of ass.
02:02:26.580 Two, a piece of steak.
02:02:27.860 Can she cook?
02:02:28.680 And three, POM.
02:02:30.080 A piece of meat?
02:02:31.520 What is that?
02:02:32.360 A piece of meat?
02:02:34.100 A piece of mind?
02:02:34.700 A piece of mind?
02:02:35.060 A piece of mind.
02:02:36.180 Oh.
02:02:36.860 Oh, a piece of mind, I think.
02:02:38.920 Yeah.
02:02:39.500 Because they want peace.
02:02:41.180 Oh, a piece of mind.
02:02:42.540 Yeah, you're right.
02:02:42.820 Oh, gotcha.
02:02:44.200 Oh, yeah, peace, peace, peace.
02:02:45.240 Okay, got it.
02:02:47.280 Thanks for the advice.
02:02:49.480 Holy hell, all the work I put in the gym, all the boring meals I eat, all the time I force
02:02:54.540 myself to be in bed for eight plus hours if good sleep is all fake, the amount of delusion
02:02:59.120 on this panel, most of y'all lie about your weight.
02:03:02.540 Nails.
02:03:02.980 What did I miss?
02:03:04.020 Purr.
02:03:04.740 Purr.
02:03:05.300 He was like.
02:03:05.820 He was like this.
02:03:06.940 I'm fruity.
02:03:07.760 Fruity.
02:03:08.560 Just, I heard the first one, just show of hands, show of hands, should body count matter?
02:03:15.960 No.
02:03:16.260 No, to an extent, yeah.
02:03:17.660 Okay, well, we'll talk, we'll talk about body count later.
02:03:21.600 Here, Eric, you can go back to live, I'll get the rest of the soup chats.
02:03:25.540 First, we have Stifler, ask the ladies to rate their looks on a scale of one to ten.
02:03:28.440 Yeah, we can do that.
02:03:29.200 You go first.
02:03:32.540 Like 7.58.
02:03:34.440 Okay.
02:03:36.020 Yeah, seven.
02:03:38.200 I'm just going to say, on this cam, I feel like the lighting is so bad in here, I don't
02:03:42.380 feel like I look good, but I'd say an eight.
02:03:45.440 The lighting's not good?
02:03:46.760 I keep looking at myself and I, like.
02:03:48.580 What do you mean?
02:03:49.060 I don't like it.
02:03:49.800 This is your angle, though.
02:03:51.020 Yeah, I know, and I don't like it.
02:03:52.960 I feel like I look so much better, like, in person.
02:03:55.140 Yeah.
02:03:55.500 This lighting is not in for me.
02:03:57.420 It's, like, not doing me justice, but it's okay.
02:03:59.640 But that's okay.
02:04:00.220 You know what?
02:04:00.620 Here's the thing, though.
02:04:01.240 This, the TV, it's, the lighting is different on this monitor than, like, if you watch the
02:04:07.420 video back, it looks a lot better.
02:04:09.420 I'm going to trust the video back.
02:04:11.260 I got you.
02:04:11.800 I got you, girl.
02:04:12.420 Great.
02:04:12.760 I got you.
02:04:15.680 One to ten.
02:04:16.400 7.5 to eight.
02:04:18.260 Okay.
02:04:18.960 What about you?
02:04:20.100 Well, just to preface, I think giving yourself a number is an interesting idea.
02:04:25.700 But.
02:04:26.400 Well, tell us how you really feel.
02:04:28.720 Well, I mean, I just, I think it's kind of, I don't know, I don't like rating myself.
02:04:32.420 It's just, I don't know, I'd rather just exist and, like, like who I am without giving
02:04:36.340 myself a number.
02:04:37.600 If you had to.
02:04:39.300 If you had to.
02:04:41.120 7.
02:04:42.180 Okay.
02:04:42.760 All right.
02:04:43.080 Uh, God.
02:04:47.780 I think emotionally, I'm definitely an eight.
02:04:50.520 Um, out.
02:04:51.440 Looks, looks, looks, looks.
02:04:52.620 Fuck.
02:04:53.340 I would say a six.
02:04:54.840 Okay.
02:04:55.420 Yeah.
02:04:55.900 Yeah, I'd give myself a solid, like, six.
02:04:58.160 What about you?
02:04:59.160 Me?
02:04:59.560 Yeah.
02:04:59.760 What would you rate yourself?
02:05:01.280 Six.
02:05:01.940 6.9 on a good day.
02:05:03.840 I think we're all tens, you guys.
02:05:04.240 If the lighting was a little better.
02:05:06.040 No, no, no, no.
02:05:06.920 Let's give it to ourselves.
02:05:08.060 No, no, no.
02:05:09.540 Um, okay.
02:05:10.160 So, um, I think we would, if we were all tens, we would all have modeling contracts and
02:05:15.300 all that.
02:05:17.180 Um, okay.
02:05:18.620 Yeah.
02:05:19.580 Um, I just wanted to let you know that I saved this one just because it was directed towards
02:05:22.780 you, but it's at the top.
02:05:25.200 Oh, did I miss it?
02:05:26.640 No, but I went further.
02:05:27.780 Sorry.
02:05:28.340 Oh, you skipped over it?
02:05:29.480 Okay.
02:05:29.680 Yeah, I missed the rest of you.
02:05:31.380 Uh, I'll, I'll do that.
02:05:32.440 Andrew Tate, I'm flying the brunette to Romania for a conjugal visit.
02:05:36.020 Pack your bags.
02:05:37.700 Is, I mean, there's, there's like three brunettes kind of here.
02:05:41.620 I assume you're a brunette, but your hair is a bit red.
02:05:43.900 It's supposed to be red, but.
02:05:45.280 Well, I mean, your hair is red, but underneath, I assume.
02:05:47.900 Oh, yeah.
02:05:48.320 Your actual hair color is brown.
02:05:50.840 Uh, do you guys take him up on his offer?
02:05:54.800 To Romania?
02:05:56.020 Yeah, for a conjugal visit in his jail cell.
02:05:57.900 Oh, is that Andrew Tate?
02:05:58.460 That is Andrew Tate.
02:05:59.680 I'm okay.
02:06:00.380 I'm going to pass.
02:06:01.580 It's not actually him.
02:06:02.480 Well, that's what it says.
02:06:03.360 Isn't he in jail?
02:06:03.740 I mean, it is his, that is his name.
02:06:05.440 But if that's your name and your profile picture, no, thank you.
02:06:08.900 Okay.
02:06:09.480 You don't know who, do you know who Andrew Tate is?
02:06:11.720 Yes.
02:06:12.280 Oh, oh, okay.
02:06:13.780 I was like, oh, fuck.
02:06:15.800 All right.
02:06:16.480 Uh, M1 Garand, would any of the girls date a guy who legally owned a firearm?
02:06:19.560 Yes.
02:06:20.000 Yeah.
02:06:20.620 Yeah.
02:06:21.200 Wait, yes.
02:06:22.600 Is that, is that a yes from everyone?
02:06:24.440 Yes.
02:06:24.960 Yeah.
02:06:25.220 Oh.
02:06:25.740 Hell yeah.
02:06:26.220 Wow.
02:06:27.220 Interesting.
02:06:27.800 Okay.
02:06:28.060 I feel like, uh, you know, Santa Barbara, it's a pretty, uh, wait, why are you pulling this
02:06:32.900 up, Eric?
02:06:35.700 What?
02:06:36.660 Wait.
02:06:40.800 Oh, okay.
02:06:41.500 Got it.
02:06:42.220 Um, it's kind of, I'm kind of surprised by your, because I mean, Santa Barbara is a very,
02:06:46.860 I mean, California is a very, uh, fairly liberal.
02:06:50.040 Yeah.
02:06:50.320 So, uh, I feel like a lot of people have issues with firearms, but okay.
02:06:54.520 That's cool.
02:06:55.520 Well, my hot take on that is, oh, yeah, go for it.
02:07:00.000 Go for it.
02:07:00.820 Oh, say my hot take.
02:07:02.580 What's your hot take?
02:07:03.360 Oh, no.
02:07:04.240 I am on the side of, I think people kill people.
02:07:08.380 Guns don't kill people.
02:07:10.480 Truly.
02:07:12.220 Cause word.
02:07:12.780 I agree with that.
02:07:13.480 Yeah, for sure.
02:07:14.840 Okay.
02:07:15.140 I think it's also where we're all from, like I'm from Sacramento and there's a lot closer
02:07:21.920 to the mic.
02:07:22.820 Um, the part of Sacramento that I'm from is a very, um, like country area.
02:07:28.320 So yeah, I grew up with guns and cars and all that fun stuff.
02:07:32.560 I think you can also have like some liberal ideologies and beliefs, but still want to have
02:07:37.180 the right to own a firearm.
02:07:39.460 Yeah.
02:07:39.580 I mean, you could, you could be left wing and still believe in firearm ownership.
02:07:44.520 Um, it just, it seems to me there's like a lot of, there's this term for it.
02:07:48.600 It's, uh, I don't know if the term's political cohesion, basically where if you know someone's
02:07:55.180 political stance on one issue, you can almost guarantee, you know, their stance on all the
02:08:00.280 rest.
02:08:00.800 Now that's not the case for everyone, but like if you generally speaking there, I think
02:08:07.040 I'm trying to think of the term.
02:08:08.120 It's not political cohesion.
02:08:09.440 It's, uh, in any case, doesn't really matter.
02:08:12.280 Um, all right.
02:08:13.700 We have, uh, trying to get to, uh, yo, lukewarm thing for the soup chat, man.
02:08:18.980 Hi, Brian.
02:08:19.520 I like the addition of the note taking, but please stop writing with your left hand.
02:08:23.200 It's haram.
02:08:24.560 Haram.
02:08:25.300 Hey man, I'm, I'm a lefty.
02:08:27.280 Um, you know, what can I say?
02:08:30.340 Uh, would you guys date like a guy who's, um, left-handed?
02:08:36.140 I'm left-handed.
02:08:37.280 Yeah.
02:08:37.500 So yeah.
02:08:38.140 What's up?
02:08:38.640 How you doing?
02:08:40.560 Okay.
02:08:40.960 I just made things awkward.
02:08:43.420 I actually only date left-handed women.
02:08:46.260 I refuse to date a right-handed.
02:08:48.260 Is that true?
02:08:48.820 Like actually?
02:08:49.800 Does that matter?
02:08:50.540 Yeah.
02:08:50.700 And actually I may, like if, if I'm really interested in a girl and she's a right-handed,
02:08:54.720 like I, she has to start writing with her left hand.
02:08:57.220 Is that because she has to?
02:08:59.360 I sent her back to school.
02:09:01.240 I'm kidding.
02:09:01.740 I'm kidding.
02:09:02.380 I don't, I don't care about your, uh, handedness.
02:09:05.940 Although if she is ambidextrous, there are some benefits.
02:09:10.480 Yes.
02:09:10.920 Okay.
02:09:12.080 Moving on.
02:09:13.300 Yo, we have, um, Stimproid $20 soup chat.
02:09:17.020 Girl, I like, wait, did we do this one?
02:09:18.660 Yeah, we did.
02:09:19.160 Okay.
02:09:19.480 Okay.
02:09:20.080 Um, I'll let, did we do this one?
02:09:23.200 Yeah.
02:09:23.500 Yeah.
02:09:24.220 Oh damn, y'all just move through this shit quick.
02:09:26.380 Okay.
02:09:26.940 This one I think you did, right?
02:09:28.540 Mm-hmm.
02:09:29.440 We're on the left.
02:09:30.380 We don't know.
02:09:30.780 Mm-hmm.
02:09:32.820 Um, Sam, I'm gonna, I'm gonna have you read.
02:09:36.600 Okay.
02:09:36.800 So just say Alex, uh, thank you, or you can say Alex, Australian $20 soup chat.
02:09:40.980 Alex, thanks for the $20.
02:09:42.600 And I'd say the way men feel about makeup is the same way women feel about men who lie about
02:09:48.060 their status, height, and income.
02:09:49.760 When the real marketplace value is revealed, it's utterly disappointing.
02:09:53.820 You guys can respond.
02:09:57.080 I mean, yeah, like, I mean, I agree with that.
02:09:58.120 You can, if you want, disagree.
02:10:00.060 I, I feel like it's like when the truth comes out, you would be disappointed if they're completely
02:10:04.560 lying about the way they appear or like their status or other stuff about them.
02:10:07.740 Yeah.
02:10:08.280 Wait, can you guys, uh, pontificate on that for 30 seconds while I pull something up?
02:10:12.980 Yeah.
02:10:13.480 Okay, guys.
02:10:14.640 What?
02:10:15.760 Pontificate.
02:10:16.280 Hmm.
02:10:17.700 Women lie with makeup.
02:10:19.820 I don't think lying's the right word.
02:10:22.040 Yeah.
02:10:22.680 Um, I feel like it would be a good word.
02:10:23.800 Lying is like, it kind of-
02:10:26.520 Facetune is a lie.
02:10:27.640 Yeah.
02:10:27.860 That's a damn lie.
02:10:29.220 Facetune is a, for sure, lie.
02:10:29.540 Filter's a lie.
02:10:30.120 Facetune's a lie.
02:10:30.980 But I think makeup, you can see someone in real life, you see their skin texture, you
02:10:33.860 see like the way their eyes really are.
02:10:34.960 Totally.
02:10:34.980 It's a lot different in person than it is, than it comes across in pictures for sure.
02:10:39.520 Yeah.
02:10:39.540 Mm-hmm.
02:10:40.660 I don't really understand what like the big deal about makeup is.
02:10:43.680 I don't either.
02:10:44.140 Unless you're like caking it on every day and like people don't know what you look like
02:10:48.860 with their face.
02:10:49.040 There are extremes to that.
02:10:50.100 There are extremes.
02:10:50.820 Yeah.
02:10:51.040 Which like, okay, I guess like don't date a girl like that.
02:10:54.360 If you care that much about how someone looks like with makeup versus without makeup, like
02:10:59.720 why are you even thinking about being with them?
02:11:02.960 Yeah.
02:11:03.180 If, like, I don't know.
02:11:05.300 Like, like you said, you said you saw like a before and after of people like completely
02:11:09.580 transforming their appearance.
02:11:11.340 Yeah.
02:11:11.580 But like, if you saw that like in person, unless it was like, I don't know.
02:11:18.600 I just feel like if you can't really see through makeup when it's on, like, I feel like I could
02:11:23.560 look at you and like, guess what you look like without makeup.
02:11:26.880 Because like, I don't look at you and be like, this is what she looks like.
02:11:29.660 I could recognize you without makeup.
02:11:30.020 And then, and then when you take your makeup off, I'm like, oh my God.
02:11:33.720 Like, I feel like that's just like.
02:11:35.800 No, it's not, it's not like, well, I suppose there are some scenarios where makeup is
02:11:41.560 highly transformative, but it's definitely like wearing makeup does make you more attractive.
02:11:51.120 It doesn't make you look better than you are in reality.
02:11:55.580 What do you prefer?
02:11:56.740 What do I prefer?
02:11:57.380 If you, yeah, say you love this girl so, so much and, but she wants to wear makeup some,
02:12:02.680 you know, what, what would you tell her personally?
02:12:06.440 What would I tell her?
02:12:07.880 Would you just say, oh, I don't like that.
02:12:10.280 Please don't do that.
02:12:11.000 It's lying.
02:12:11.740 You're lying to me, even though I see you with no makeup every day.
02:12:14.720 How much is she, is she wearing?
02:12:16.260 Like, let's just say a regular amount.
02:12:18.060 We're not talking extremes at all.
02:12:19.500 Let's say.
02:12:20.280 You hug her, it won't come off on your face.
02:12:21.760 Yeah.
02:12:22.200 Yeah.
02:12:22.780 No foundation on the pillowcases.
02:12:24.660 No.
02:12:25.320 Not on your face.
02:12:26.080 No, no shirts.
02:12:29.040 I mean, I think if anything on the eyes, I don't really mind.
02:12:33.780 Fake, fake lashes.
02:12:36.380 There's no offense, Liv.
02:12:39.300 Not the biggest fan of those, but like mascara, eyeliner, eyeshadow, not like a big thing.
02:12:47.700 I think it's more so like when it's like the full face and the powder.
02:12:51.480 Like a beauty influencer type.
02:12:53.180 Yeah.
02:12:53.660 Like, are you wearing any face stuff right now?
02:12:56.300 Yeah.
02:12:56.740 Okay.
02:12:57.200 It looks good.
02:12:58.160 I think, yeah.
02:12:58.660 It looks really good.
02:12:58.960 Yeah.
02:12:59.140 I think like a little mascara, eyeliner, whatever.
02:13:01.840 Let's take her for example.
02:13:02.960 Yeah.
02:13:03.140 I could not tell that she's wearing foundation at all.
02:13:05.380 That looks beautiful.
02:13:06.240 Yeah.
02:13:06.360 She's wearing some foundation.
02:13:08.340 Then why did you just ask her if she was?
02:13:10.880 Wait, what?
02:13:11.540 Why did you just ask her if she was if you apparently already knew?
02:13:14.680 Well, to confirm or deny my suspicions.
02:13:16.660 Okay.
02:13:17.300 Do I look cakey?
02:13:18.560 Cakey?
02:13:19.140 Yeah.
02:13:19.340 No.
02:13:20.760 Are we still talking about your face or other?
02:13:23.300 Oh, huh?
02:13:25.060 Cakes, huh?
02:13:26.400 Does my face look cakey?
02:13:28.320 Oh.
02:13:28.780 Sorry.
02:13:29.360 Does it look like I'm wearing a lot of foundation?
02:13:31.840 He knows.
02:13:32.280 I mean, the lighting's bad in here.
02:13:34.040 It's not good.
02:13:34.560 You know, like you said.
02:13:35.280 It's not a good lighting.
02:13:36.600 That's okay.
02:13:37.760 Not a lot, though.
02:13:38.920 Not a lot.
02:13:39.300 No, yeah.
02:13:39.680 I didn't put that much on.
02:13:40.460 Not a lot.
02:13:41.140 But so the question was, what would I prefer?
02:13:45.040 What would you prefer?
02:13:46.180 And what would you tell her if it was a bit too much?
02:13:49.500 Like say she did something new with her makeup and it was too much for you.
02:13:52.520 Would you tell her to take it off and redo it how she normally does it?
02:13:55.380 So I guess it's a cheap parter.
02:13:56.500 Like she can do whatever she wants.
02:13:58.240 Like if she wants to wear makeup, that's fine.
02:14:00.140 Is it my personal preference for her to like wear minimal makeup or no makeup?
02:14:05.520 Yes.
02:14:06.080 And a lot of girls will say, well, there's the no makeup makeup.
02:14:08.800 But like genuinely, like genuinely, I don't care if a girl wears makeup.
02:14:14.260 I realize you're going to look a little different.
02:14:16.380 Maybe there's a little, some imperfections.
02:14:18.320 That's fine.
02:14:18.940 Because honestly, the things I care about in a woman, look, if you're good looking, that's great.
02:14:22.900 But I care much more about who you are as a person, you know, your loyalty, like how we get along and things like that.
02:14:32.560 So, so I guess that's far more important to me than your makeup.
02:14:36.560 It's more, makeup is more of like a secondary thing to you.
02:14:40.920 It's not crazy important as people are making it out to be.
02:14:44.740 I guess in the chat, people are making it out to be.
02:14:48.500 Because they're going to the extremes of you're lying.
02:14:52.540 Well, you are misrepresenting your appearance.
02:14:56.480 Do you think it's misrepresentation or do you think it's enhancing what you have already?
02:15:01.400 Well, I mean, I think.
02:15:02.560 I mean, I guess.
02:15:03.380 You're putting a, you can put the spin on it all you want, but you are, that is not how you actually look.
02:15:10.440 And I'm not saying that that's necessarily wrong, but to deny that wearing makeup doesn't change your appearance, you wouldn't wear it if it.
02:15:21.120 If makeup didn't change your appearance, you wouldn't wear it.
02:15:24.500 Why would you spend all this money and all this time to put something on your face that doesn't change the way you look?
02:15:31.960 No, that makes sense.
02:15:33.220 Makeup.
02:15:33.640 I mean, can we at least admit that makeup does change your appearance?
02:15:38.060 Yeah.
02:15:38.500 Perhaps for the better.
02:15:40.160 So it is to some degree a bit of an illusion, a smokescreen, but we did talk quite in depth already about the makeup stuff.
02:15:49.880 So let's keep it moving.
02:15:51.560 So I think that was Alex, right?
02:15:53.360 Great.
02:15:53.620 Thank you, man.
02:15:54.240 Appreciate it.
02:15:55.180 We have Mike Dust.
02:15:57.240 Thank you for the 20.
02:15:57.900 Go ahead.
02:15:58.660 Sam.
02:15:59.240 Official ratings for the ladies tonight.
02:16:01.080 Sam, 8.
02:16:01.860 Fiona, 4.5.
02:16:03.200 Tatum, 6.
02:16:04.460 Jane, 5.
02:16:05.420 Chelsea, 6.
02:16:06.640 Sammy, 5.
02:16:07.460 Live, 6.
02:16:08.120 Did you spell my name wrong?
02:16:09.240 Yeah.
02:16:09.580 How dare, Mike Dust, how dare you spell Tatum?
02:16:15.100 Tater Tot.
02:16:16.580 That's one of my nicknames.
02:16:17.820 Tater Tot?
02:16:18.360 Yeah.
02:16:19.200 Tatum.
02:16:19.560 It's with a U, correct?
02:16:22.080 Yeah.
02:16:22.440 Okay.
02:16:23.680 Fiona, I mean, you seem to have quite a visceral reaction there.
02:16:26.640 Do you want to say anything to Mike, who's been incredibly rude and disrespectful to you?
02:16:31.120 You know, different strokes for different folks.
02:16:33.960 I mean, I'd love to rate you as well if you wanted to send your photo over.
02:16:37.820 Oh, Mike Dust.
02:16:38.600 The invitation has been sent.
02:16:41.720 Okay.
02:16:42.580 All right.
02:16:43.520 Thank you, man.
02:16:44.820 By the way, thank you guys so much for all your TTSs here.
02:16:48.300 I really appreciate it.
02:16:49.760 I'm just getting through them here.
02:16:51.400 All right.
02:16:51.700 We have, go for it.
02:16:54.180 Tickle.
02:16:54.480 Oh, into the mic.
02:16:55.420 Oh, typical sugar baby behavior.
02:16:57.360 Miss PB is no different than any other chick in that area.
02:17:00.880 Can literally weigh 400 in front of them, and they'll be down for whatever.
02:17:04.860 San Diego is a city boy central, and city boys, we up.
02:17:10.600 Wait, who was that directed to?
02:17:12.180 I have no clue, but we're city boys now.
02:17:14.940 Miss PB is Miss Pacific Beach.
02:17:17.020 Who's Pacific Beach?
02:17:18.200 Oh, my hinge was in Pacific Beach.
02:17:20.820 Oh.
02:17:21.340 Oh.
02:17:21.980 Oh.
02:17:22.880 City boys, we up.
02:17:24.280 Good times.
02:17:25.020 Yeah.
02:17:25.300 Okay.
02:17:26.140 So, Fiona, if I waved $400 in front of you, would you do whatever?
02:17:30.440 No.
02:17:30.740 Do whatever?
02:17:32.020 Yeah.
02:17:32.280 Isn't that what he just said?
02:17:33.160 That's what he said, she'd do whatever.
02:17:34.520 $400, she'll do whatever.
02:17:36.120 Guarantee she will not.
02:17:37.160 Okay.
02:17:37.720 Yeah.
02:17:38.140 Oh, Eric, we had a TTS that came through.
02:17:41.660 We had a donation come through from Streamlabs.
02:17:46.260 If you can pull up the Streamlabs tab really quick.
02:17:49.140 Oh, and we got to do the makeup thing really quick.
02:17:50.720 Okay.
02:17:51.120 Yeah.
02:17:51.380 Let's do the Streamlabs ones, then we'll get back to the Super Chats.
02:17:53.800 Go ahead.
02:17:56.260 Can you zoom in a little bit?
02:17:57.600 It's a bit too small for me to read.
02:18:01.000 That's one more.
02:18:02.220 Zoom in if you can.
02:18:04.260 All right.
02:18:04.760 Let's do Shane first.
02:18:05.960 Shane the Pain, thank you.
02:18:07.340 Love the show.
02:18:08.120 I'm a six-figure earner in Hawaii.
02:18:09.900 Own my house and cars.
02:18:11.740 You can send these single hotties my way.
02:18:14.340 Okay.
02:18:15.120 Yo, Shane, by the way, I might move the podcast to Hawaii.
02:18:19.320 Which island are you on?
02:18:20.680 Are you like Oahu, Maui, whatever?
02:18:22.860 I think in a year and a half, I'm going to move the podcast to Hawaii because, I don't
02:18:27.340 know.
02:18:27.480 I need to be in a permanent vacation while doing this fucking podcast.
02:18:32.080 It's stressful as fuck.
02:18:33.440 Thank you, man.
02:18:34.100 Appreciate it.
02:18:35.000 Feel free to shoot me a DM, by the way.
02:18:37.060 Arcanum, $300, donated $20.
02:18:41.040 All the girls I've talked to recently have only been interested in a one-night stand, whereas
02:18:45.060 I'm looking to build a relationship.
02:18:47.400 Can the girls give some insight on this?
02:18:51.520 Yeah, sure.
02:18:52.220 Arcanum, thank you for the donation.
02:18:53.580 Really quick, also, guys, instead of Super Chats, you can donate via Streamlabs.
02:18:57.580 We'll treat it like a Super Chat.
02:19:00.320 YouTube doesn't take their 30% cut.
02:19:02.980 Do you guys want to respond to Arcanum here?
02:19:05.320 Where is he looking?
02:19:06.720 Yeah.
02:19:07.380 Because I wouldn't, like, where is he looking at?
02:19:11.140 Because I don't know where he would find only girls who just want one-night stand.
02:19:13.740 Well, me and Arcanum are our best buddies, and he's been going crack dens, strip clubs.
02:19:20.520 Because, yeah.
02:19:23.140 Yeah.
02:19:23.620 Should he stop?
02:19:24.400 I don't think that's probably the best place to look for girls at.
02:19:27.920 Okay.
02:19:29.200 Go to the strip club.
02:19:30.300 Where's a good place to meet a girl that's not a dating app?
02:19:33.120 I think let's answer that for him.
02:19:35.660 The grocery store.
02:19:36.980 Trader Joe's.
02:19:37.700 Yeah.
02:19:38.160 Yeah.
02:19:39.560 Coffee shops.
02:19:41.140 That's a really good place to meet a girl.
02:19:42.660 I would say places that it's harder, like, a little bit more expensive places.
02:19:47.980 And I know that can be, like, iffy because either she wants somebody to, like, pay for her.
02:19:53.140 But, like, places where a girl has to, like, work harder to make a living because she's not really focusing as much on anything but trying to work and live.
02:20:05.300 If that makes sense.
02:20:05.960 Or a place where you have similar interests.
02:20:10.060 Like, for example, I met my boyfriend at the gym.
02:20:14.140 And that's, we have very similar interests.
02:20:17.340 And I've, you know, I have a friend that's super, super cute.
02:20:20.580 They met at a library, which was really cute.
02:20:23.640 Yeah.
02:20:24.100 It was really cute.
02:20:26.000 But, and they read all the time together.
02:20:28.940 By the way, Arcanum says, rural, rural, North Carolina.
02:20:35.180 That's where he's living?
02:20:35.720 I've never been.
02:20:36.560 Well, yeah, that's.
02:20:38.060 Only interested in one night stands.
02:20:39.720 You just got to get out of North Carolina.
02:20:41.120 Yeah.
02:20:41.920 Get out of there.
02:20:42.540 Maybe they just don't want to get somebody there.
02:20:44.980 In rural North Carolina, you're, because I feel like casual relationships are much more common in the city, but you're in the country.
02:20:53.120 So, my, my, I would recommend, I mean, if you want to do cold approach, it's very difficult.
02:21:02.340 And especially, I feel like it's much less common nowadays, whereas before dating apps, like, girls gave you a bit more leeway if you approach them, like, at a Trader Joe's, for example.
02:21:13.720 But now, like, with dating apps, I feel like it's, it's somehow, even though we're progressing, it seems like, like, it's almost like, oh, there's more of a judgment if you approach someone in person.
02:21:26.740 Like, people seem much, maybe that's related to the pandemic, but people seem much more, like, kind of on guard.
02:21:32.660 So, yeah.
02:21:34.160 Oh, Eric, can you pull up the makeup thing just to kind of put, like, a little final thing in the makeup thing?
02:21:38.660 And just to kind of highlight the difference makeup can make.
02:21:43.240 So, these are, like, some, can you scroll down a little bit?
02:21:45.600 That one definitely has filters on it.
02:21:47.400 Yeah.
02:21:47.560 I'm telling you about it right now.
02:21:48.580 Keep scrolling.
02:21:48.920 Because if our skin's textured like that.
02:21:50.620 Keep scrolling.
02:21:51.920 Go, go, go.
02:21:52.720 Down, down, down.
02:21:54.620 Keep going.
02:21:55.220 Keep going.
02:21:55.620 Same girl.
02:21:56.100 There we go.
02:21:57.100 Pretty big difference.
02:21:58.460 A lot of airbrush, too.
02:21:59.780 But do you, do you like that?
02:22:01.020 Like, do you guys want that much?
02:22:02.240 No.
02:22:02.800 Because that's, that's, like, a lot.
02:22:04.020 That's, like, for events.
02:22:05.060 Keep scrolling, Eric.
02:22:06.000 That's our wedding, like, wedding.
02:22:07.620 It's not even wedding.
02:22:09.480 Keep, keep going.
02:22:10.700 Sorry.
02:22:11.460 Keep going.
02:22:12.660 Pretty big, pretty, that's, yeah, pretty big.
02:22:15.380 Yeah, I feel like that's facetune.
02:22:17.300 Yeah.
02:22:17.420 Her eyebrow shape is different.
02:22:19.000 Yeah, those all look, like, really airbrushed.
02:22:21.320 Yeah, those look totally airbrushed.
02:22:23.000 Well, actually looking at her chest.
02:22:24.560 Yeah.
02:22:25.120 Yeah.
02:22:26.080 Yeah, there's something.
02:22:27.660 I mean, unless they did.
02:22:28.320 Looks like Kiki.
02:22:29.960 Yeah.
02:22:30.620 Scroll down.
02:22:31.560 Keep going.
02:22:33.600 Keep going.
02:22:37.900 Okay.
02:22:38.340 This is, like, pageant.
02:22:40.060 Yeah.
02:22:40.220 See, but, like, I think she's beautiful on the left, too.
02:22:42.780 Like, I think she's good looking on the left, too.
02:22:44.840 Like, I mean, keep going down.
02:22:46.580 To be fair, I think this is pageant or, like, weddings or some shit.
02:22:49.140 Yeah, that's not a sustainable look at all.
02:22:50.960 But, like, but you do acknowledge, like, there's quite a difference between, like, these.
02:22:55.020 Oh, yeah.
02:22:55.400 A thousand percent.
02:22:55.620 Yeah.
02:22:56.240 But, and this is, I mean, I think they're doing some touching up in Photoshop, but, like,
02:23:00.580 there's makeup, too, right?
02:23:01.620 Yeah.
02:23:01.940 Keep scrolling, Eric.
02:23:04.520 Oh, wow.
02:23:05.260 That's quite the transformation.
02:23:06.960 Next.
02:23:08.380 Her face looks thinner.
02:23:09.520 Oh, yeah.
02:23:11.660 Good times.
02:23:12.480 Okay, next.
02:23:14.620 Yeah, so it's, like, you know, obviously this is on the further end of the spectrum, but,
02:23:20.460 like, yeah.
02:23:23.180 Let's continue with the soup chats here, and then we do need to get back to the dating.
02:23:28.540 Landon, actually, you got, you know, Sam, you got this.
02:23:31.420 You're killing it.
02:23:32.000 Okay.
02:23:32.620 Into the mic.
02:23:33.800 Is that a Fight Club bar or soap on your desk?
02:23:36.200 Favorite movie.
02:23:37.000 Why do you have it displayed?
02:23:44.760 Oh, shit.
02:23:45.720 Glare.
02:23:47.260 Yeah, I like, it's not my favorite movie.
02:23:49.120 The Matrix is my favorite movie.
02:23:50.480 Wait, actually, on that note, hold on.
02:23:53.180 Can you pass me that one?
02:23:55.680 No, not Patrice O'Neill.
02:23:57.940 The Red Pill?
02:23:58.600 The Red Pill, yeah.
02:24:03.120 Oh, fuck.
02:24:04.320 That shit's upside down.
02:24:05.340 Oh, wait, no.
02:24:05.880 No, that's right.
02:24:06.600 No, that's good.
02:24:08.220 Yeah, The Matrix is my favorite film, so, yeah.
02:24:12.900 You can put that back.
02:24:13.860 Thank you.
02:24:15.820 Why do I have it displayed?
02:24:17.060 I don't know.
02:24:17.320 I don't know.
02:24:17.420 Just, I got little trinkets and doodads and gadgets here.
02:24:20.500 I got, like, some weird shit here.
02:24:22.080 Hold on.
02:24:23.340 I got, like, an 80s cell phone.
02:24:28.460 I got all kinds of weird doodads and trinkets, you know?
02:24:31.700 So, okay.
02:24:35.080 Landon, appreciate it, man.
02:24:37.600 Go ahead, Sam.
02:24:38.440 Definitely read this one.
02:24:39.540 Brian's a babe.
02:24:40.540 Rate Brian out of town.
02:24:41.620 Oh, no.
02:24:41.980 Whoa, whoa, whoa.
02:24:43.220 It's up there.
02:24:43.980 You made us answer.
02:24:44.620 That's where we're going to answer.
02:24:45.500 No, but they're asking for you guys to, ah, that's brutal, Andrew.
02:24:51.220 How dare you?
02:24:51.860 Yeah, that is kind of, I mean, he didn't, like, rate all of us.
02:24:53.900 I didn't rate any of you.
02:24:54.960 That's true.
02:24:55.180 I mean.
02:24:55.800 Yeah, I wouldn't want to be rated, so.
02:24:58.560 I would have to rate you guys in return.
02:25:01.100 It's a little personal.
02:25:02.280 Yeah, that is personal.
02:25:03.040 A little personal.
02:25:04.320 If any of you want to do an exchange, we can.
02:25:07.200 And I promise not to be vindictive.
02:25:13.440 I'm good.
02:25:14.180 Okay.
02:25:14.820 Yeah, okay.
02:25:15.560 All right, fucking Andrew.
02:25:18.340 Thank you, man.
02:25:18.880 I appreciate the Canadian 20.
02:25:21.100 Benton, go for it.
02:25:23.180 Samuel.
02:25:23.500 I just want to say happy Valentine's to my love, Adam Santucci, who listens to this with
02:25:29.320 me.
02:25:29.700 Smiley face.
02:25:31.120 Hey, thank you, man.
02:25:31.780 I appreciate it.
02:25:32.220 Glad you and Adam are spending your Valentine's watching us.
02:25:38.520 Yo, Cheeks.
02:25:39.080 Thank you, man.
02:25:39.600 Go ahead.
02:25:40.500 These girls are on apps to be validated, which is why they really have it.
02:25:44.480 Ladies, with the ones with a body count less than five, just get off the app and meet a
02:25:49.700 guy at a grocery store, a coffee shop, the beach, anywhere but a bar.
02:25:54.520 So, I mean, he's saying that you guys are on the dating apps for validation, and I don't
02:25:59.960 know if you disagree with that, but none of you have been on the dating apps for some
02:26:03.780 degree of period of time and have not opted.
02:26:06.300 I'm sure guys have attempted to move things to in-person, but why hasn't that occurred?
02:26:16.300 I mean, I said because, like, I just, I feel like, you know, dating apps is such, like,
02:26:25.480 a fishy thing.
02:26:26.480 Like, first of all, I don't go on it a lot because I really don't like dating apps.
02:26:30.220 They're, like, a really, I think, a poor way of meeting people.
02:26:32.740 I actually agree with beating the cheeks on this one.
02:26:34.420 It's not, like, the best way to find a partner, and it's, like, there's safety involved, like,
02:26:40.820 if the vibe's not right, and then also that awkwardness of, like, you guys both have photos,
02:26:45.280 you don't know what you look like in person, you go there, you expect for, like, to meet
02:26:48.980 this person, like...
02:26:50.600 What if it's a cat food?
02:26:51.440 Yeah, like, there's just so many things about it.
02:26:53.640 Sure.
02:26:54.660 So, beating cheeks, agreed.
02:26:57.060 Anybody else want to come in?
02:27:00.260 Thoughts?
02:27:01.300 Yeah, I agree.
02:27:02.360 Concerns?
02:27:02.800 I feel like meeting people organically is where it's at.
02:27:06.440 Organic?
02:27:07.240 Yeah.
02:27:08.320 Okay.
02:27:09.900 Go for it, Sam.
02:27:11.580 I don't think I'm a reckless murderer either, but when I'm drunk, I keep my guns in the locker
02:27:17.760 and not in my hands.
02:27:18.680 Same reason you don't go to clubs where cheating is more likely.
02:27:23.560 Tom Brokaw, thank you for the $20 soup chat.
02:27:30.360 Okay.
02:27:30.880 MRA versus Thoughts is a genius idea for a show.
02:27:36.200 Every girl at the table know who the most beautiful girl at the table is, including her.
02:27:41.080 Will she admit it?
02:27:42.880 Who is the most...
02:27:44.160 Mr. Cappadocia, who is the most beautiful girl at the table?
02:27:48.900 Oh, I know who it is.
02:27:51.740 I know who it is.
02:27:52.600 It's Kiki.
02:27:53.440 Yeah.
02:27:53.780 It will?
02:27:54.700 I know.
02:27:55.340 Wow, she's feisty tonight.
02:27:57.900 Yes, I'm sorry.
02:27:59.160 Kiki is the most attractive woman at this table.
02:28:03.400 Agreed.
02:28:03.940 She's got porcelain skin.
02:28:05.960 No makeup needed.
02:28:07.940 Thank you for...
02:28:08.540 Wait, Kiki does have makeup.
02:28:09.280 She does.
02:28:09.920 Men are increasingly moving overseas to find women to marry.
02:28:14.000 This trend will continue until women become traditional again.
02:28:17.220 Ladies, does this concern you?
02:28:18.640 All the good men are leaving.
02:28:20.440 Look at the Philippines as role models.
02:28:23.240 Hey, by the way, shout out Michael.
02:28:24.680 He's been on the show two times.
02:28:26.820 Is it three or...
02:28:27.960 I think just two.
02:28:29.500 Crypto Chad.
02:28:30.680 Thank you, man.
02:28:31.200 Appreciate it.
02:28:32.980 Your guys' response?
02:28:35.080 I disagree with that.
02:28:36.660 I don't know many going overseas, so...
02:28:39.380 Well, you guys are young.
02:28:40.440 Yeah.
02:28:40.640 So probably the guys in college, not yet, but...
02:28:44.540 I feel like it's more of a trend with older people.
02:28:47.560 Yeah, I can see that.
02:28:49.360 Passport bros.
02:28:53.280 Honestly, Michael, the thing...
02:28:55.360 You're right.
02:28:56.120 A lot of men are seeking women overseas because I think one big thing is men want to go where
02:29:03.580 they are respected.
02:29:04.920 Men want to go where they are appreciated.
02:29:06.940 And the fact of the matter is, in Western society, there's a lot of...
02:29:12.780 There's a lot of...
02:29:14.860 It's not...
02:29:16.060 I was going to say whispering, but there's a lot of perhaps anti-male sentiment.
02:29:21.460 And you hear shit like, we don't need no man.
02:29:25.460 And men are listening to that and saying, okay, goodbye.
02:29:29.900 And they're going to where...
02:29:30.960 Go to where you are appreciated for both men and women.
02:29:34.020 Go to where you're appreciated.
02:29:35.280 Go to where you're respected.
02:29:36.940 Oh, thank you.
02:29:41.280 My wife's sister needs a man.
02:29:43.820 She is decent looking, like a six-not-fat smart.
02:29:47.140 Everything fine and not a 304.
02:29:49.980 Body under 10th.
02:29:51.040 But she is already 32 where she should look for a guy.
02:29:54.800 Where are all good men?
02:29:56.220 We're going to Japan and Vietnam and the Philippines and Thailand.
02:30:04.480 They're going there.
02:30:05.500 But no, I mean, where are all the good men going?
02:30:08.860 They're there.
02:30:12.200 But I mean, a lot of men are opting out of the dating marketplace because kind of what has been happening is a lot of people spend their youth partying, going to bars, clubs, parties, just engaging in casual sex.
02:30:27.440 And here's the thing, right?
02:30:30.500 Almost every single woman has access to hookup culture.
02:30:34.840 But very few men have access to hookup culture.
02:30:39.420 I would agree, for sure.
02:30:42.100 The top 10, top 20% of men can hookup regularly.
02:30:45.640 You look at the average guy.
02:30:47.660 He does not have anywhere near even approaching the amount of options that an average woman has.
02:30:55.820 An average girl, even a remarkably unattractive girl, can have a roster.
02:31:02.660 Maybe you know some girls.
02:31:04.680 So whereas the average guy is like, it's a struggle for average men to get girls, even to get a girlfriend.
02:31:14.260 But certainly not being able to hook up.
02:31:19.400 Thoughts?
02:31:20.000 If you disagree, that's fine.
02:31:22.360 I definitely think we have more options for hookups.
02:31:25.360 Yes.
02:31:26.120 I think just hookups.
02:31:28.840 I mean, I don't think we have more options for relationships, like having committed relationships.
02:31:33.480 I just think hookup culture on both ends has created a system where people are not looking to commit and get into, like, committed relationships.
02:31:43.640 Well, the guys you want, or the guys a lot of women want, don't want to commit.
02:31:51.820 I mean, I'm 20.
02:31:52.360 Shane underscore the underscore Payne super chatted $50.
02:31:56.400 Tonight's rating with Brother Brian 766.
02:32:00.320 Tats Kiki 1066.
02:32:03.380 6.5 6.
02:32:04.880 Sam, will you marry me?
02:32:06.600 Just wanted to show support for the show and figured I'd send out a proposal.
02:32:10.640 Sam.
02:32:13.860 Why is he saying Sam's a son?
02:32:15.280 I don't want to get married right now, but thank you.
02:32:17.760 I appreciate it.
02:32:19.680 Would you date Shane the Payne?
02:32:21.360 Oh, thank you.
02:32:22.360 Our gain of $300 donated $50.
02:32:25.160 I feel like this has been the most productive panel I've seen so far.
02:32:29.360 All these ladies have been level-headed and actually contribute to the convo.
02:32:33.500 Love the show and glad these beautiful women could come out to it.
02:32:36.640 Aw, so sweet.
02:32:37.620 Thank you.
02:32:37.920 That was actually really nice.
02:32:39.140 Hey, there we go.
02:32:40.080 There we go.
02:32:40.620 Yeah.
02:32:41.100 I appreciate the really positive super chat.
02:32:43.640 Sometimes I almost have concern for the female panelists because they're brutal.
02:32:51.240 I was so fucking scared to come on here.
02:32:52.800 They're fucking...
02:32:53.900 The super chats can be brutal sometimes.
02:32:55.760 So, and, yeah, so, but I think, yeah, the panel has been wonderful.
02:33:01.520 I'm ready for a debate, though.
02:33:02.980 I really want us to argue about some shit.
02:33:05.340 What do you want to argue about?
02:33:05.900 We'll get, oh, we'll get to it.
02:33:07.220 We'll get to it.
02:33:07.840 But, so you do turn down his marriage proposal, though, the previous TTS.
02:33:13.620 Okay.
02:33:14.460 All right.
02:33:15.460 It probably didn't help that he, I think he said six.
02:33:18.900 Is that what he, he called you six?
02:33:20.560 He, I did a seven.
02:33:22.060 Why would you ask someone to marry you who, you're writing seven?
02:33:25.000 But, I think you're a seven.
02:33:27.420 Do you want to marry me?
02:33:28.240 He gave you a six.
02:33:29.100 He started there.
02:33:29.860 He gave you a six.
02:33:30.960 That's even worse.
02:33:32.080 I know.
02:33:32.680 So, was, I thought, oh.
02:33:35.440 Tatum.
02:33:35.900 He went, like, I don't even know.
02:33:36.920 I thought it was this way.
02:33:38.480 Tater Tot.
02:33:39.360 Tater Tot.
02:33:39.680 Listen, babe.
02:33:41.180 Listen.
02:33:43.320 You're okay.
02:33:44.500 Like, I know we fight sometimes.
02:33:47.320 You piss me off.
02:33:49.640 Like, you're just kind of average.
02:33:51.260 But, will you, will you marry me, Tatum?
02:33:56.400 Whoa.
02:33:57.160 Is that real?
02:33:58.640 Yes.
02:34:04.460 This is awkward.
02:34:06.720 Just, you can tell.
02:34:07.160 Oh, my God.
02:34:07.640 Play long.
02:34:08.380 Play long.
02:34:08.960 $50.
02:34:10.440 Ladies, describe your ideal man.
02:34:13.660 Height.
02:34:14.420 Income.
02:34:15.380 Monogamous.
02:34:16.200 Age.
02:34:16.860 Etc.
02:34:17.420 Dot.
02:34:17.700 What is the percentage of me?
02:34:19.120 Damn, that's a lot.
02:34:19.440 Do you think that have the features you asked for?
02:34:22.700 Now, after this, what would you bring to the table for this man besides your body?
02:34:28.100 Shout out to Tanya.
02:34:29.720 Hey, you want to ask any other questions while you're at it, Captain?
02:34:32.900 You're milking it, eh?
02:34:33.820 Okay, we can, should I, can you pull it back up?
02:34:37.820 Because there's a lot there.
02:34:39.060 We'll try to get most of them.
02:34:44.820 Okay.
02:34:45.960 Height, income, monogamous, age.
02:34:49.100 What is the percentage of men do you think that have the features you asked for now after this?
02:34:52.400 What would you bring to the table?
02:34:53.620 Wow, that, that's a lot.
02:34:54.880 That's a good question.
02:34:56.220 So, I wonder if there's a quick way to get through all of this.
02:35:06.000 Chat, do it, is it too much?
02:35:09.260 Am I, am I abusing?
02:35:11.120 Am I abusing if I move on?
02:35:14.500 Chat, wait, can you show me the chat?
02:35:18.300 Am I, am I abusing if I, if I move on?
02:35:23.440 Is it, is it abuse, abusing?
02:35:28.900 Abusing, am I, oh shit.
02:35:31.240 Sorry guys, we're having a technical issue, we're about to.
02:35:33.980 Someone said simplify it, I think that's a good idea.
02:35:36.800 Yeah, let's just do like the, the high income and age or something.
02:35:40.920 Yeah, okay, sure.
02:35:42.520 So, here, bare minimum height.
02:35:47.400 5'5", so taller than me.
02:35:49.040 No, no, no, so how tall are you?
02:35:50.580 5'4".
02:35:51.240 Okay, so you'll date a guy who's 5'5"?
02:35:52.480 Like 5'6", yeah, I'm going to stay with 5'6".
02:35:56.260 Is it all good, Eric, or?
02:35:58.340 It looks like it's back up on your screen.
02:36:02.120 Oh, okay.
02:36:04.300 Like.
02:36:04.920 Oh, sorry, I need to, okay, income?
02:36:07.300 Oh, right now, I don't know.
02:36:08.620 Right now, don't care.
02:36:09.680 Do you want him to be monogamous?
02:36:11.340 Yes, yes.
02:36:12.380 Or do you open to an open relationship?
02:36:14.160 Age, ideal age range?
02:36:15.800 Um, 18 to 20, 24.
02:36:21.920 24, okay.
02:36:23.260 Um, what about you?
02:36:25.900 Okay, height.
02:36:27.300 I mean, I can get what that is.
02:36:28.720 Just for height, how tall are you?
02:36:30.340 Okay, I'm 5'7", and I feel like, ideally, 5'9", 5'10", and above, but also, like, I think it can work if you're cute.
02:36:40.340 I mean, Zendaya and Tom Holland work, so that's not a problem.
02:36:44.320 Um, what's the other ones?
02:36:47.380 Income?
02:36:47.840 Yeah.
02:36:48.280 Income doesn't really matter for me right now.
02:36:50.600 I mean, I'd hope that they can, like, provide for themselves at least a little bit.
02:36:55.120 Um.
02:36:55.580 Hold on just a sec.
02:36:56.560 Eric, what's going on?
02:36:58.260 Um, you know, ask them, ask the chat.
02:37:01.220 It's just, like, super blurry for some reason.
02:37:05.180 The screen is blurry?
02:37:06.380 Can you pull up StreamYard?
02:37:07.400 StreamYard is, are you able to pull up StreamYard?
02:37:10.900 What, do you not see a StreamYard?
02:37:13.520 Whoa.
02:37:15.220 Okay, that's weird.
02:37:16.020 Does it look clear on your screen?
02:37:17.620 It looks fine on our side.
02:37:19.120 Are you, are you going to be able to continue?
02:37:23.260 Yeah, we should take a look at it.
02:37:26.320 Okay, well, you guys continue on while I take a look at that, but, uh, so your height, minimum height.
02:37:32.000 Here, I'll keep it up.
02:37:33.120 I'll keep it up.
02:37:35.560 Um, monogamous, yes.
02:37:37.940 I mean, income, at some point, I'd want him to make his own money, but also, I would, I would provide, I don't care.
02:37:45.640 Um, age, anywhere from, like, 20 to 40.
02:37:51.380 And, I want them to be passionate and have hobbies.
02:37:56.220 Um, I would say 5'9", but honestly, I feel like, if you're tall, it's just, it's really attractive.
02:38:02.760 I don't know, but I'll get away with, like, normal, I guess.
02:38:07.480 Um, income doesn't really matter.
02:38:10.760 Monogamous?
02:38:12.340 Yes.
02:38:13.280 Age?
02:38:13.840 Which, I don't know, like, five years older than me?
02:38:18.580 Um, is that it?
02:38:20.400 Yeah.
02:38:21.060 Yeah.
02:38:21.520 Okay.
02:38:22.800 Um, my ideal height would be, I'm 5'11", so, I don't know, in a man, maybe, like, six foot plus.
02:38:34.240 Um, income doesn't matter, but, like, it would be nice if you had a job, just cause, like, that's nice.
02:38:44.080 And, um, monogamous?
02:38:48.660 Oh, age, maybe, like, 18 to 24.
02:38:57.580 I'm obviously into my boyfriend, and he's six foot and 20 years old, and, yeah, that's what applies to me.
02:39:08.520 Um, uh, my ideal person is empathetic, and, um, open-minded is a big one.
02:39:17.660 Um, communication is huge.
02:39:19.820 Eric, can you bring back StreamYarn, or OBS?
02:39:22.680 We don't see it over here.
02:39:25.540 Um, Liv.
02:39:28.420 That'd just continue on.
02:39:30.540 The show must go on.
02:39:31.600 Sorry, guys, we're having some technical issues.
02:39:33.880 Um, height, I would say, would have to be around, yeah, like, 5'6", cause I'm 5'4", so 5'6", would be good.
02:39:39.920 Okay.
02:39:40.380 Um, income does matter to me a little bit, just because I'm not, I'm supporting myself now.
02:39:46.620 I'm in, uh, I'm not in college anymore, so I am looking for somebody who can support themselves.
02:39:54.600 Um, monogamous, yes.
02:39:57.540 And age, 20 to 30.
02:40:01.180 Yeah.
02:40:03.280 Captain Bama, am I abusing?
02:40:05.640 Abusing.
02:40:06.260 Thank you, man.
02:40:06.640 Appreciate the, uh, super chat.
02:40:08.500 I didn't get to finish.
02:40:09.620 Go ahead.
02:40:12.940 Okay, no, I'm just, I'm just saying, if everyone's getting their thoughts out, I think everybody should.
02:40:17.080 Yeah.
02:40:17.560 I got cut off.
02:40:19.220 By who?
02:40:20.160 By you.
02:40:21.120 By me?
02:40:21.500 I started answering, and then you said, okay, Liv.
02:40:23.760 Oh, I thought there was a pause.
02:40:25.540 Well, go ahead, go ahead, go.
02:40:26.480 Um, so, I'm 5'1", I prefer somebody taller than me for sure, uh, minimum 5'7", income, has to be able to support themselves for sure.
02:40:38.680 Um, maybe, it doesn't have to be six figures, of course, but some stability is nice, and, um, and I guess, yeah, thank you.
02:40:50.500 Okay, um, I want to pull up this soup chat here from Michael Cohen, and then this one's related to it.
02:41:00.760 Go ahead, Sam, read this if you can.
02:41:02.460 Yeah, I agree with Michael Cohen's super chat.
02:41:04.920 I'm 25, and the dating pool in Orange County, where I'm from, sucks.
02:41:09.080 I've expanded my horizons and dated Aussie and German, Swedish, girl.
02:41:14.120 They're more mature, chivalrous, respectful, et cetera.
02:41:17.700 Okay, um, your thoughts on that?
02:41:21.660 Then go for them.
02:41:22.800 They're all yours.
02:41:23.780 Go get them.
02:41:24.760 Yeah.
02:41:25.600 I don't know, like, that's good for you.
02:41:28.260 Glad you're getting your girls, but I don't really know what to say to that.
02:41:32.920 Yeah, well, just to bring it back, this is Michael Cohen's super chat, so, ladies, does this concern you?
02:41:37.740 Honestly, I don't think women really give a fuck, like, that guys are going overseas.
02:41:41.780 It doesn't really bother them, because, obviously, well, this kind of brings it back to women are chasing after the top 10 and 20%.
02:41:48.580 Those guys are staying in the U.S.
02:41:50.420 Those guys will never commit, but, yeah, so, oh, there's, shit, there's something related to this that just totally slipped my mind.
02:42:00.420 Um, shit, I'll have to come back to it.
02:42:05.120 All right, we have, uh, another one here from Sky Traveler.
02:42:08.100 I know all the girls said yes to dating a guy who owns a gun, but would ladies date a cop, even if the political climate, even with the political climate these days?
02:42:17.600 Um, go for it.
02:42:18.580 I mean, I'm not going to judge you based off what you do for a living, so, yeah, if you're a really good guy, I would date you.
02:42:23.580 Yeah, sure, I mean, I don't think that would span in my typical type, but, you know, if they were awesome, I could change.
02:42:35.100 Yeah, I agree.
02:42:37.820 Yeah, if it was, like, someone I really wanted to be with, why would I let what they do for a living get in the way of that?
02:42:45.400 I admire it, but I think it would stress me out too much if my partner was in that field.
02:42:51.620 Because of the risk, you know?
02:42:53.200 Yeah, I can see that.
02:42:55.220 Um, I would.
02:42:57.060 For sure.
02:42:58.000 Um, I have dated a cop, so, and I would do it again.
02:43:03.580 You sounded a little enthusiastic when you, uh, answer that.
02:43:07.640 Uh, okay, so, uh, Hennick, thank you for the 20 euro.
02:43:13.800 Ladies, my body count is 87.
02:43:15.420 Is that a put-off?
02:43:16.720 Um, how old are you?
02:43:18.460 Yeah, wait, what's your age?
02:43:19.980 Yeah, can you send us your, uh, age, ASO?
02:43:23.200 Um, but, uh, let's say, like, uh, 21, 21-year-old guy.
02:43:29.460 And your body count's 87?
02:43:30.620 Yeah.
02:43:31.400 Um, that's pretty extreme.
02:43:34.320 Yeah, that is pretty true for 21.
02:43:35.780 I would be, like, you spend so much time, like, fucking different people.
02:43:42.760 Yeah.
02:43:43.040 Like, what is that?
02:43:44.160 Are you a sex addict?
02:43:45.420 Like, do you, like, that's a lot.
02:43:48.840 Like, because it's, like, the chase, and then, like, the bagging them.
02:43:52.560 Because it's, like, 87 different people.
02:43:53.980 It's not 87 different times you've had sex.
02:43:55.980 Well, body count, that's, that's what body count is.
02:43:59.060 It's not the amount of times you've had sex.
02:44:00.580 Yeah, yeah.
02:44:00.980 It's how many times you've had sex with different people.
02:44:03.320 And it wouldn't, like, to answer his question, that wouldn't necessarily, like, steer me away
02:44:06.820 from someone.
02:44:07.440 Like, if I really liked a person, and their body count was 87, and they were, like, what,
02:44:11.020 21 or my age?
02:44:12.040 Like, I would just be, like, damn.
02:44:13.740 I'm, like, whoa, like, you fucked a lot of people.
02:44:17.720 I would think I would also be curious at what age they started becoming sexually active.
02:44:22.400 Yeah.
02:44:22.860 To kind of, like, see how fast you, you know.
02:44:25.360 Mm-hmm.
02:44:27.080 Did, your thoughts?
02:44:30.640 No.
02:44:31.180 It's a no for me.
02:44:31.860 That's a no?
02:44:32.500 It's a no.
02:44:34.060 Yeah.
02:44:34.940 Same.
02:44:35.640 Wait, but, I mean, I stepped away there for a moment, but we, there's a previous YouTube
02:44:39.600 chat that said, should body count matter?
02:44:41.980 And I thought, I thought all of you said, it shouldn't.
02:44:44.320 We said, to extremes, it would matter, but.
02:44:47.080 To an extreme.
02:44:47.880 Yeah.
02:44:48.480 I think 87 at 21, you're spending a lot of time, like, like she said, bagging people.
02:44:54.040 Okay.
02:44:54.560 What about even at 30?
02:44:55.980 And also, that means you've probably never been in, like, a committed, like, in a relationship
02:44:59.600 where you've been having sex with, like, one person if you've been with that many different
02:45:04.240 people.
02:45:05.360 Sure.
02:45:05.720 But I don't also think that'd be a make or break.
02:45:07.260 At 87, I wouldn't say no, because.
02:45:10.700 You wouldn't say no for 87?
02:45:12.700 If I really like the person, that's not a deal breaker.
02:45:17.180 Okay.
02:45:18.620 Okay.
02:45:19.220 No, that's totally fine.
02:45:20.140 And, well, I think men and women value body counts a little bit differently.
02:45:23.080 Um, but, uh, I would say if most men found out a girl had 87 bodies, that's, that's a wrap.
02:45:33.700 Actually, you know what?
02:45:34.440 There's a lot of simps.
02:45:35.200 I shouldn't, there's a lot of simps out there that will accept a whole lot of situations.
02:45:39.500 But, but, uh, well, I mean, would you object to a guy not wanting to date a girl who had
02:45:44.320 87, 86, whatever, prior sexual partners?
02:45:47.480 No, I would get it.
02:45:48.860 I don't understand.
02:45:49.080 You'd get it?
02:45:49.780 Yeah.
02:45:49.980 Okay.
02:45:50.220 Well.
02:45:50.560 I think it's a preference, too.
02:45:52.500 Everyone's entitled to their own preferences and what they want in a partner.
02:45:55.740 Okay.
02:45:56.060 And, well, like we were talking earlier, I mean, 87 is 87, but like, because it's a lot
02:46:03.300 easier for a girl to hook up with somebody, 87 for her is going to be a different 87 for
02:46:09.840 a guy.
02:46:10.400 True.
02:46:10.800 If that makes sense.
02:46:11.880 So you're saying like for a dude to hook up with 87 chicks, he's got some fucking game
02:46:16.680 like, or he's really good looking or he has some status.
02:46:19.880 Here's a question for you guys.
02:46:21.180 I want to paint, do a hypothetical scenario for you.
02:46:23.800 So, do any of you have a celebrity crush?
02:46:29.680 Yeah.
02:46:31.500 Who's your celebrity crush?
02:46:33.080 I don't have like one.
02:46:34.960 I can't really think of one, but there's a lot of celebrities.
02:46:36.840 Think of a hot celebrity that you think is attractive.
02:46:39.100 Henry Cavill.
02:46:40.600 Okay.
02:46:41.220 Oh, okay.
02:46:42.300 He's like, isn't he in his 40s or something?
02:46:45.220 Yeah, and he's still very attractive.
02:46:46.380 And he plays World of Warcraft.
02:46:47.780 Hold on.
02:46:48.100 We'll come back.
02:46:48.740 We'll come back to Henry Cavill and that he plays World of Warcraft.
02:46:52.200 Hold on.
02:46:52.500 Okay, so anyone in the chat, how old is Henry Cavill?
02:46:56.480 Is it Cavill?
02:46:57.080 Cavill?
02:46:57.400 Whatever.
02:46:58.060 Okay, so that's your sort of celebrity crush.
02:47:01.580 What about you?
02:47:02.860 Oh, I have so many.
02:47:04.800 Just one.
02:47:05.140 I'd have to say Timothee Chalamet.
02:47:08.580 Timothee Chalamet.
02:47:10.020 Or Aaron Taylor-James.
02:47:10.480 Oh, but he's also very attractive.
02:47:13.220 Who the fuck is that guy?
02:47:14.660 Who the fuck is?
02:47:15.920 Okay.
02:47:16.600 I'd also say Timothee Chalamet.
02:47:18.780 Okay.
02:47:19.500 What about you?
02:47:20.200 Um, I don't know.
02:47:24.540 Queen Latifah?
02:47:25.820 No.
02:47:27.640 Um, Lizzo?
02:47:30.500 Maybe like...
02:47:33.200 I have like a streamer crush.
02:47:38.980 Does that count?
02:47:40.320 Is it XQC?
02:47:41.340 No.
02:47:42.260 Hassan Piker?
02:47:43.520 Yeah.
02:47:43.860 Um, cool.
02:47:48.040 Okay.
02:47:49.480 He's outspoken?
02:47:51.640 I just think he's attractive.
02:47:53.400 Oh, okay.
02:47:53.900 Sure.
02:47:54.780 Okay, so Hassan?
02:47:56.660 Chris Evans.
02:47:57.920 Chris Evans.
02:47:58.740 Captain America, right?
02:47:59.700 Mm-hmm.
02:47:59.940 Okay.
02:48:00.420 Your boyfriend's gonna be mad that you said that.
02:48:02.120 He knows.
02:48:02.640 Oh, he knows?
02:48:03.040 He knows.
02:48:03.500 Wait, question.
02:48:04.400 Have you ever had a conversation with your boyfriend where you're like, would he give
02:48:08.480 you a pass for Chris Evans?
02:48:11.500 He, we have had this conversation and he would not.
02:48:14.780 He would not give you a pass?
02:48:15.860 No.
02:48:16.760 Would you, Chris Evans steps to you, for your boyfriend, by the way, Chris Evans steps to
02:48:23.120 you.
02:48:23.340 Can you hide the super chat, man?
02:48:25.860 Chris Evans steps to you.
02:48:29.400 Do you break up with your boyfriend?
02:48:30.980 Do you cheat on your boyfriend?
02:48:32.080 I wouldn't say all bets are off when it comes to Chris Evans, but I'm not not saying that.
02:48:40.280 Okay.
02:48:41.240 Let's say you're dating a guy for a year.
02:48:44.120 Timothy Chalamet steps to you.
02:48:45.960 Oh, God.
02:48:49.720 Do you break up or cheat?
02:48:52.380 Oh, I would not cheat.
02:48:53.580 I would break up first.
02:48:54.980 If I were to get with Timothy Chalamet, I would break up with my boyfriend first.
02:48:58.700 I would not cheat.
02:48:59.440 But let's say it's like, uh, let's say it's just for like a one night stand.
02:49:04.140 I would fucking call him on the phone and be like, we're done.
02:49:07.300 Sorry.
02:49:08.040 Oh, damn.
02:49:10.780 Cause I was thinking like, maybe there's a, what the, Jesus Christ.
02:49:15.180 I was thinking maybe there's a, you know, a situation where, uh, maybe there's a potential
02:49:21.940 there with Timothy, Timothy Chalamet, but it's just like a one time thing.
02:49:24.820 And, you know, I don't know.
02:49:27.120 Okay.
02:49:27.380 So, uh, you're dating a guy for two years, Henry Cavill.
02:49:32.060 If it's for a one night stand, I'm not doing anything, but if it's for like a relationship,
02:49:36.860 I might consider.
02:49:38.780 Okay.
02:49:39.300 So you're dating a guy for two years, Henry Cavill, top tier world, world of Warcraft
02:49:43.980 Raider, you know, fucking pumper DPS guild, all that shit.
02:49:48.640 But, you know, Naxxramas, easy, um, two year relationship, Henry Cavill steps to you.
02:49:56.280 Do you break up and or cheat on your boyfriend?
02:49:58.440 Wait, is it for a one night stand or is it for like, let's do both.
02:50:01.460 So for a one night stand, no, I wouldn't break up with him.
02:50:04.040 But if it was like, no, I wouldn't, or I wouldn't cheat either.
02:50:07.340 But if it was for like a, like a relationship with him.
02:50:09.860 Oh, I think I would.
02:50:12.320 Yeah.
02:50:14.840 And what about you?
02:50:16.140 Oh yeah.
02:50:16.620 I would cheat.
02:50:17.560 You would cheat.
02:50:18.640 If I didn't have time to tell him that I'm going to, I'd hope that he'd give me the pass.
02:50:22.420 What was his name?
02:50:23.080 The, the first guy you mentioned?
02:50:24.360 Aaron Taylor James.
02:50:25.360 Okay.
02:50:25.780 That's his name, right?
02:50:26.560 Aaron Taylor Johnson.
02:50:27.660 I thought it was three first names.
02:50:29.560 I thought it was Johnson.
02:50:30.320 Maybe it's Aaron Taylor Johnson.
02:50:31.680 Okay.
02:50:32.380 Did you get to go about the breakup or cheat on your boyfriend for your celebrity or your,
02:50:38.420 okay.
02:50:39.400 Hassan steps to you.
02:50:42.100 He, uh, you're dating a guy for a year.
02:50:45.600 Do you cheat?
02:50:46.580 Or do you break up?
02:50:50.360 Like, would, do you cheat?
02:50:55.500 No, not for Hassan.
02:50:56.780 I just said that.
02:50:57.380 Cause that's like, do you break up with your boyfriend to get with Hassan?
02:51:02.140 No.
02:51:05.160 Okay.
02:51:06.240 I think you answered already.
02:51:08.020 What about you?
02:51:08.640 Celebrity crush?
02:51:09.560 Did you?
02:51:10.560 Uh, no.
02:51:11.240 Um, I would say Jason Momoa.
02:51:13.820 Okay.
02:51:14.260 Jason Momoa, Aquaman, Khal Drogo, Game of Thrones.
02:51:18.980 Um, uh, you could be his Daenerys, you know, I think she's blushing.
02:51:27.480 Okay.
02:51:27.660 Um, I love Game of Thrones too.
02:51:31.140 So I'm like, Oh, I need, I need a shame.
02:51:35.040 One of those fucking shame bell.
02:51:37.160 Yeah.
02:51:37.540 Oh, oh, what are we?
02:51:40.660 Game of Thrones.
02:51:41.260 You're going to, wait, you've been dating your boyfriend for how long?
02:51:43.860 Two years.
02:51:45.420 Two years?
02:51:46.400 Mm-hmm.
02:51:47.040 Jason Momoa.
02:51:49.060 Jason Momoa steps to you.
02:51:50.840 And he's not, not only, okay, let me, let me spice this up a bit.
02:51:56.080 Okay.
02:51:56.840 It's not Jason Momoa.
02:51:58.500 He's like, he's on set of like the Game of Thrones reunion or some shit.
02:52:02.640 And he's in his Khal Drogo shit.
02:52:04.940 Like he's got the fucking blue, those blue paint stripes on his chest.
02:52:09.760 He's got that long hair shit.
02:52:11.440 And he's, yo, he's speaking to you in Dothraki.
02:52:17.640 Do you cheat?
02:52:18.720 Oh, no, I wouldn't.
02:52:24.140 I really wouldn't because I think, I think my boyfriend kind of looks like very similar
02:52:29.520 to him.
02:52:30.200 So I would not.
02:52:31.580 Plus, you know, we have dogs and properties together and.
02:52:35.680 Do you break, do you break up with your boyfriend?
02:52:37.480 No, no, no.
02:52:38.240 Jason Momoa wants to marry you.
02:52:39.960 I would not.
02:52:41.300 No.
02:52:41.600 Okay.
02:52:41.740 I was about to ring the shame bell, but.
02:52:43.360 No, I wouldn't.
02:52:44.100 You get a pass.
02:52:45.280 Okay.
02:52:45.740 Liv, what about you?
02:52:46.440 My celebrity, would you consider him a celebrity?
02:52:50.400 Bradley Martin.
02:52:52.140 Like.
02:52:52.640 Yeah.
02:52:53.140 The buff guy?
02:52:54.220 Yeah.
02:52:54.460 I thought you were.
02:52:55.420 Who's the Bumsworth?
02:52:57.440 Oh, C-Bum.
02:52:58.940 What's his full name?
02:52:59.900 Chris Bumstead.
02:53:00.920 Chris Bumstead.
02:53:02.460 I thought that was your crush.
02:53:04.160 I like them both.
02:53:05.260 But yeah.
02:53:05.600 Okay.
02:53:06.320 Bradley Martin or C-Bum steps to you.
02:53:09.300 Do you break up with your boyfriend or cheat on your boyfriend?
02:53:14.000 No, because gym guys are like my type.
02:53:17.100 So like if I'm dating somebody I've met at the gym and I found them really attractive,
02:53:20.840 then no.
02:53:21.780 And we're dating.
02:53:23.020 No, I wouldn't cheat.
02:53:24.740 They're just my celebrity crush.
02:53:27.580 Stop the cap.
02:53:28.900 Okay.
02:53:29.660 How did we even get onto that?
02:53:31.200 I don't even.
02:53:31.620 What was this?
02:53:33.160 Was it?
02:53:34.240 We were talking about body count?
02:53:35.420 Oh, okay.
02:53:37.080 So all these men.
02:53:39.160 You're a celebrity crush.
02:53:40.400 Let's say they have 300 bodies.
02:53:42.520 Does that deter you?
02:53:44.140 Mm-mm.
02:53:46.220 With my celebrity crush?
02:53:47.780 Yeah.
02:53:48.020 If they have 300 bodies?
02:53:48.940 Henry Cavill.
02:53:49.820 Does it deter you?
02:53:51.860 A little bit.
02:53:52.580 300 bodies?
02:53:54.880 You got to remember, these celebrities have a lot of options.
02:53:57.960 So they probably have bodies.
02:53:59.980 Drake?
02:54:01.060 That motherfucker's in the street.
02:54:02.220 Oh, bodies on bodies.
02:54:03.340 He's in the quadruple.
02:54:04.800 Yeah, maybe I wouldn't even consider breaking up with him.
02:54:06.700 Because they have probably bodies on bodies.
02:54:11.020 Henry Cavill seems like a solid dude, though.
02:54:13.260 No, but he seems like a gentleman.
02:54:14.220 He seems like a good guy.
02:54:15.080 He might not.
02:54:16.040 I like his personality, too, which is why I was like, he's very nice and very up there.
02:54:20.620 But let's say he's got 300 bodies.
02:54:24.040 I'd ask him about it.
02:54:25.240 Be like, how'd you ponder on this thing?
02:54:27.500 You'd play World of Warcraft with him.
02:54:29.140 Yeah.
02:54:29.660 Okay.
02:54:31.020 What about you?
02:54:31.700 Timothy has 300 bodies.
02:54:34.100 Yeah.
02:54:34.940 Yeah.
02:54:35.640 Deal breaker?
02:54:36.220 No.
02:54:36.780 Oh, still a go.
02:54:37.800 Yes.
02:54:38.280 Still a go.
02:54:38.640 Of course he has 300 bodies.
02:54:39.680 Okay.
02:54:39.980 What about you?
02:54:40.500 He's a celebrity for a reason.
02:54:42.200 Yeah.
02:54:42.900 For fucking a bunch of chicks?
02:54:45.220 No.
02:54:45.840 Oh, he's a celebrity to get women?
02:54:47.960 No.
02:54:48.620 He's good looking.
02:54:49.500 He's good looking.
02:54:50.040 I think he's probably a lot of people.
02:54:51.100 He's going to get bodies and girls are going to throw themselves at him.
02:54:54.840 He's popular.
02:54:56.080 He's popular.
02:54:57.140 Mm-hmm.
02:54:57.600 Mm-hmm.
02:54:58.240 I've got to look at her.
02:54:59.580 Okay.
02:55:00.740 So, but would the 300, would it deter you from Timothee Chalamet?
02:55:05.260 Like, from cheating on my boyfriend?
02:55:08.640 No.
02:55:09.100 Or, like, in general?
02:55:10.120 I don't have a boyfriend anymore?
02:55:10.540 No, no, no.
02:55:10.660 I don't have a boyfriend anymore?
02:55:10.980 Get rid of the boyfriend thing.
02:55:11.320 Get rid of the boyfriend thing now.
02:55:12.720 I'm just back to body count.
02:55:13.640 Let's assume you're single.
02:55:15.240 Assume you're single.
02:55:16.040 Um, does 300 bodies deter you from sleeping with your celebrity crush?
02:55:21.540 No.
02:55:22.100 No.
02:55:23.280 Probably not.
02:55:24.980 I will be happy to add to that list.
02:55:29.460 Haram!
02:55:29.940 Okay, what about you?
02:55:32.420 No.
02:55:33.900 Who was your, uh, what was your crush again?
02:55:36.300 I, oh, Hasan.
02:55:37.160 Mine wasn't a genuine answer.
02:55:38.800 Like, can we not hold me to that?
02:55:40.440 Because, like, my brain, like, doesn't work right now.
02:55:42.840 I'm hungry.
02:55:43.760 I want food.
02:55:44.740 You're what?
02:55:45.300 My brain doesn't work right now.
02:55:46.220 Oh, your brain's not working.
02:55:47.120 Yeah, we're actually, we're going to clip it and send it to Hasan.
02:55:49.840 Okay.
02:55:50.120 And he'll.
02:55:50.660 I mean, I wouldn't be mad if you did that.
02:55:52.480 He'll slide into the DMs.
02:55:54.040 So, yeah.
02:55:54.560 I actually, I'll get you guys linked up.
02:55:57.960 It's a small community, you know?
02:55:59.720 I'll believe it when I see it.
02:56:01.940 Okay.
02:56:02.680 All right.
02:56:03.460 Go ahead.
02:56:04.620 Yeah, the high body count probably would deter me.
02:56:07.280 From, uh, Evans, Chris Evans.
02:56:09.520 Mm-hmm.
02:56:10.380 Jason, let's say you're single.
02:56:11.900 Uh, Jason Momoa, does that deter you?
02:56:13.660 300 bodies?
02:56:14.580 Yeah, I wouldn't like that.
02:56:16.000 Okay.
02:56:16.920 Liv?
02:56:17.280 Yeah, same.
02:56:18.260 I wouldn't like it.
02:56:19.240 Come on, Chris Bumstead, really?
02:56:21.920 Liv, come on.
02:56:22.900 You don't give a fuck.
02:56:24.640 What do you mean?
02:56:25.280 You don't care.
02:56:26.400 I do care.
02:56:27.440 If you say so.
02:56:28.300 Okay, anyways.
02:56:29.560 Do you want to fuck Chris Bumstead or Bradley Martin?
02:56:33.660 Just kidding.
02:56:34.180 Kidding, I'm kidding.
02:56:34.920 Regardless of the 300?
02:56:36.320 Well, I wouldn't.
02:56:37.380 Because it sounds like it.
02:56:37.860 I'm straight.
02:56:38.940 I'm straight, so I wouldn't be, uh.
02:56:40.700 But it sounds like you're really trying to get me to do it.
02:56:42.880 Just to live through me.
02:56:43.280 Like, as a cuck sort of thing.
02:56:44.740 Yeah.
02:56:45.220 Like, to live vicarious fucking.
02:56:47.620 Exactly.
02:56:48.000 Mm-hmm.
02:56:48.980 Wow, you've revealed me.
02:56:51.060 I'm exposed.
02:56:52.740 I have a thing.
02:56:54.080 You've heard it here for, here, you've heard it here for, now I'm stroking out.
02:56:58.680 Okay, my bad.
02:56:59.280 Anyways, moving on.
02:56:59.980 Um, so, okay, we were, Henry Cavill.
02:57:06.240 Do we, do we talk about World of Warcraft really quick?
02:57:09.420 Yeah, we'll do that.
02:57:10.460 All right, so we have, uh, hold on.
02:57:12.700 Do we have another soup chat really quick?
02:57:16.080 Or did we get through all of them?
02:57:17.940 Okay, question for the panel really quick.
02:57:19.640 Since we talked about Henry Cavill, he's a, uh, he's a well-known.
02:57:23.840 Oh, oh, sorry, last thing.
02:57:25.020 I wanted to add my piece to the whole, like, celebrity crush thing.
02:57:27.960 So, just a quick reminder, show of hands.
02:57:30.920 Um, your celebrity crush, if they have a high body count, 300 body count, would you still get with them?
02:57:38.240 Yes, raise your hand if you would still get with them.
02:57:40.480 A little higher, just so the, the folks can see.
02:57:43.900 Maybe.
02:57:44.940 Maybe, okay.
02:57:46.080 So, I think this is, like, kind of a difference between men and women.
02:57:48.940 Like, for most men, for most men, if, even if a girl's, like, smoking hot, really, really attractive.
02:57:57.440 Like Megan Fox, or, like, that hot?
02:57:59.780 Well, she's, I mean, maybe in her youth.
02:58:01.280 She's, she's still hot, but, like, she's, she's obviously much more attractive when she was younger.
02:58:06.760 Now, what is she in her 30s?
02:58:08.120 She's had a kid.
02:58:08.820 She did, she's still very, she's still a very attractive woman, but, um.
02:58:12.740 Would you not call Megan Fox now a 10?
02:58:14.980 I would call her a 10.
02:58:15.880 I wouldn't call, no, I wouldn't call her a 10.
02:58:17.600 I feel like her age is really, who is a 10?
02:58:20.120 She's very attractive, don't get me wrong, but, who's a 10?
02:58:23.260 Yeah.
02:58:23.580 Is that, is that your question?
02:58:24.360 Yeah.
02:58:24.480 Well, I, I happen to actually have some attractive women that we can look at if you guys want, and we can, some of, you're bi, right?
02:58:32.780 Mm-hmm.
02:58:33.360 You're bi, bi, bi?
02:58:35.420 Yeah.
02:58:36.180 Eric, can you, can you pull up the, uh, the Instagram thing?
02:58:39.460 You don't do bi for that.
02:58:39.680 So, these are, like, some girls I would consider, like, this is Eric's favorited girls on Instagram.
02:58:46.180 I consider them, like, nines and tens.
02:58:48.120 Um, so we have Wolfie Cindy up there.
02:58:49.900 She's pretty good.
02:58:50.680 How she looks, though.
02:58:51.940 Scroll down.
02:58:52.640 Well, yeah, she's filtered.
02:58:54.100 Uh, so we've got some pretty girls here.
02:58:57.260 I give them, like, some.
02:58:58.260 You know, it's kind of funny.
02:58:59.320 They all have makeup.
02:59:00.580 There's some, like.
02:59:01.040 And they're all filtered and body.
02:59:03.320 Wow.
02:59:03.720 No, some of these are legit, you know.
02:59:05.720 There's some eights, nines, and tens here, so.
02:59:07.600 I honestly haven't seen a single no makeup photo.
02:59:10.200 Scroll down.
02:59:11.060 Scroll down.
02:59:11.580 Well, yeah, they are wearing makeup, you know.
02:59:13.180 But, eh, maybe this girl on the right, she's a little, a little eyeliner, you know.
02:59:18.100 Oh, here we go.
02:59:18.940 Kristen Kruk in her prime.
02:59:20.600 She's pretty.
02:59:21.220 Mm-hmm.
02:59:21.460 Was a, was a babe.
02:59:22.960 Mm-hmm.
02:59:23.340 Major babe status.
02:59:25.080 Um, uh, keep scrolling.
02:59:28.040 Who was that chick from Clueless?
02:59:30.000 Oh.
02:59:30.580 What's her name?
02:59:31.180 The go up a bit, Eric?
02:59:32.160 The Black Girl from Clueless.
02:59:34.040 What's her name?
02:59:34.700 That one.
02:59:35.280 Oh, she's pretty, too.
02:59:36.160 Fuck.
02:59:36.680 Uh, it's in, who's Kylie Jenner's boyfriend or whatever?
02:59:40.740 What's his name?
02:59:41.060 Travis Scott.
02:59:41.760 Travis Scott.
02:59:42.380 What's the, what's his popular song?
02:59:44.960 Um.
02:59:45.600 The.
02:59:46.380 He's a lot of popular songs.
02:59:47.500 The, the big one.
02:59:48.460 With Drake.
02:59:50.040 Mm.
02:59:50.720 Psycho Mode.
02:59:51.800 Psycho Mode?
02:59:52.600 Psycho Mode.
02:59:53.380 Psycho Mode.
02:59:54.500 Doesn't he, like, rap a lot?
02:59:55.860 What's her name?
02:59:56.560 Can anyone in the chat, what's her name?
02:59:57.820 Oh.
02:59:58.580 The girl, he mentions her in the, in Psycho Mode.
03:00:00.740 Yeah, I was like, he mentions her in Psycho Mode.
03:00:00.780 I think Adriana Lima is really pretty.
03:00:03.120 Bro, you're derailing.
03:00:04.080 What's her name?
03:00:04.840 I'm just thinking.
03:00:05.580 No, she is very attractive, but that was maybe 15 years ago.
03:00:09.620 Adriana Lima?
03:00:11.020 She was.
03:00:11.540 The Victoria's Secret model?
03:00:12.220 Yeah, she was like a Victoria's Secret model, but like 15 years ago.
03:00:14.600 Women above 30, a 10.
03:00:17.320 Like, is there age range?
03:00:18.720 I'll get to that, but I'll get to that.
03:00:20.860 What is her name?
03:00:22.420 Stacey Dash.
03:00:23.080 Thank you.
03:00:23.480 Thank you.
03:00:23.800 Yeah.
03:00:23.940 Stacey Dash in Clueless.
03:00:25.940 Pretty babe status, I would say.
03:00:28.520 What is it?
03:00:29.020 Stacey Dash don't have a clue.
03:00:30.460 I don't know.
03:00:30.820 Whatever.
03:00:32.300 Sorry, guys.
03:00:32.800 I drink an energy drink, so I'm spazzing out.
03:00:35.180 Okay.
03:00:36.720 Oh, here's the point I was trying to make.
03:00:40.580 Most men, if we found out, like even a drop-dead gorgeous girl that looks wise is way out of
03:00:45.440 our league, if we know that she's promiscuous, major turnoff.
03:00:50.100 At least for me, I would not want to sleep with her.
03:00:54.180 Why?
03:00:55.440 Because body count matters.
03:00:57.140 Why?
03:00:57.840 Why does body count matter?
03:00:59.700 Well, there's a whole lot of reasons.
03:01:02.500 I'll get to that.
03:01:03.320 Did you want to come in really quick?
03:01:04.340 Yeah, I just wanted to say I have a friend who's really, really hot, and she has a lot
03:01:12.580 of boys.
03:01:13.320 She's promiscuous.
03:01:14.820 And I think every man who she's promiscuous with knows she's promiscuous.
03:01:20.220 How old is she?
03:01:21.820 19.
03:01:23.000 Well, here's the thing.
03:01:24.640 So me personally, I'm not interested in the one-night stand.
03:01:28.040 It doesn't interest me.
03:01:29.300 Even if it's an opportunity.
03:01:31.380 Like, for example, Santa Barbara is a really touristy area.
03:01:35.260 If I know a girl is just in town for the weekend, and she might be down, and I've had this situation,
03:01:40.200 I'm not interested.
03:01:41.720 That doesn't interest me, because frankly, it's a waste of time for me.
03:01:44.600 So when it comes to casual sex, one-night stands, short-term things, fuck buddies, guys are going
03:01:52.720 to be more willing to tolerate a promiscuous girl because, well, easy access to sex, but
03:01:59.020 when it comes to having a relationship, when it comes to marriage, then it's much more part
03:02:04.820 of the calculus, so to speak.
03:02:08.800 It's much, much more important.
03:02:13.780 Okay.
03:02:14.500 So, like, the guys will hook up with her.
03:02:17.000 And look, there are guys that don't care.
03:02:19.520 But, like, most guys who, I would say, who have options, because there are some simps out there
03:02:26.740 that have no options, so they'll take what they can get.
03:02:28.800 But, like, if a guy can pick between a girl who's, like, more innocent and isn't promiscuous,
03:02:37.000 they're going to go for the non-promiscuous girl.
03:02:40.220 I would much rather...
03:02:41.180 In your case?
03:02:41.940 In my case, give me...
03:02:45.020 I know some of you don't like the rating system, but give me a girl who's a 6, who's not promiscuous,
03:02:52.500 over a girl who's a 10, who's slept with 100 guys.
03:02:56.360 That's the point I was kind of trying to arrive at is, I would...
03:03:01.460 A girl who's, like, insanely good-looking, a 10, if I know for a fact that she's promiscuous,
03:03:06.900 I just...
03:03:07.520 I lose attraction.
03:03:08.400 I'm not into it.
03:03:09.260 Yeah, promiscuity is not it for you.
03:03:10.380 I'm not into it.
03:03:11.860 But even for...
03:03:12.820 I would also say, even for a one-night stand, most men would much rather...
03:03:19.440 Even for a one-night stand, would much rather get with, like, this is a girl who's got,
03:03:23.760 like, a low body count versus a girl who has a high body count, even for a one-night stand.
03:03:30.660 And that's just, like...
03:03:32.020 You guys tell me the opposite.
03:03:34.740 What do they tell you?
03:03:35.820 They say...
03:03:36.420 That's, like, a preference.
03:03:37.140 Yeah, I mean...
03:03:38.120 That's, like, such a preference thing, because I know so many guys who do want girls with
03:03:41.140 higher body counts for a guy.
03:03:42.140 No, come on.
03:03:43.400 For experience, yeah.
03:03:44.320 I've had guys tell me, like, I don't want no virgins around here.
03:03:47.580 Like, give me a girl who, like, knows what she's doing.
03:03:50.440 I've had so many guys say that.
03:03:55.080 I think you live in an echo chamber, respectfully.
03:03:58.260 You think I live in an echo chamber?
03:03:59.760 Well, you're probably around your peers that are like that.
03:04:02.680 Yeah.
03:04:03.300 I mean, you're surrounding yourself with guys that obviously think the same way.
03:04:06.380 You think I'm in an echo chamber that men want women who are not sexually promiscuous?
03:04:12.280 Oh, excuse me for my semantics.
03:04:14.460 Echo chamber.
03:04:16.000 You think I'm in an echo chamber because I think men don't want women who are promiscuous?
03:04:21.940 No, I'm just saying she's saying she knows men who are attracted to promiscuous women.
03:04:27.100 I know men who are attracted to promiscuous women.
03:04:29.660 And you're, like, over here shaking your head because you don't believe that that could ever exist.
03:04:34.900 No.
03:04:35.260 Okay, so a woman can be physically attractive.
03:04:38.680 Okay, you don't have to explain this to me again.
03:04:40.580 Like, you've explained this, like, three times.
03:04:42.560 I haven't explained it to you three times, but.
03:04:45.400 Okay.
03:04:46.440 Whoops, I didn't mean to press that.
03:04:47.740 My bad.
03:04:49.340 But, like, you have explained in thorough detail that a woman could be a six and have way less bodies and not be promiscuous.
03:04:56.860 And you would be more attracted to her than, like, a really hot woman who had a lot of bodies and was promiscuous.
03:05:02.180 Sure.
03:05:02.900 Yeah.
03:05:03.220 So I understand that.
03:05:04.460 That's your, like, preference.
03:05:06.300 That's, like, your job.
03:05:07.000 And we're saying, yeah, we're saying we don't, we know men who prefer slutty women.
03:05:12.500 Yeah.
03:05:12.840 Whether it's for a relationship or not.
03:05:14.980 Or, like, don't care about that.
03:05:16.720 There's, there's, there are men who might find a woman who's promiscuous attractive.
03:05:23.440 They might sleep with them.
03:05:24.940 But you can't confuse sexual attraction for relationship attraction and marriage attraction.
03:05:29.320 No, not because I, I'm saying I know men who know women, like, relationships wise.
03:05:36.060 They want a woman who is very sexually experienced and oftentimes that comes with a promiscuous past.
03:05:40.740 Are they submissive men?
03:05:42.680 No.
03:05:43.080 I don't, probably not.
03:05:44.260 No, for, they, there's no guy that is, there's no guy, well, I shouldn't say there's no guys.
03:05:51.020 Generally speaking, men don't care about a woman's sexual experience.
03:05:54.940 We, it's attractive when a woman has less sexual experience.
03:05:59.820 Really?
03:06:00.120 So you want a girl who's bad in bed?
03:06:02.020 No, no, no, no.
03:06:02.580 That's not the same thing.
03:06:04.040 Yeah.
03:06:04.520 And also, as a man, if you know how to lead, which, by the way, most women are attracted to guys who are dominant in the bedroom and know how to lead and know what they're doing.
03:06:13.340 If you know what you're doing in the bedroom, you can take a girl who's a virgin and have fantastic sex with her.
03:06:19.180 You can have great sex with her.
03:06:20.700 Being inexperienced doesn't mean you're going to be bad in bed.
03:06:23.960 So long as you're open-minded and enthusiastic, if you get with a guy who can lead you, he can teach you how to have great sex.
03:06:31.720 Whereas most women don't want to teach a guy how to fuck them.
03:06:34.800 Most women want guys who come pre-assembled.
03:06:37.280 Women want men who just get it.
03:06:40.140 Whereas men, we will gladly teach a girl.
03:06:43.180 If we know what we're doing.
03:06:44.260 What if I'm dating someone who's also a virgin?
03:06:48.060 I've talked to guys before who've been like, oh, look, I do want a girl who's very experienced, knows what she's doing.
03:06:54.820 For me, I know that when I was with my ex, as time went on, as the more we had sex, I became more better at what I was doing.
03:07:02.020 I understand what I was doing.
03:07:03.140 I wasn't as scared.
03:07:04.360 I was more confident.
03:07:07.160 But from me to the very first time I had it, it's completely different.
03:07:11.520 I'm a completely different person.
03:07:14.200 Okay.
03:07:15.760 So I'm just trying to, I guess, better understand the objection.
03:07:18.880 So you think that men want women who are sexually experienced?
03:07:23.520 No, I'm just saying some men do.
03:07:25.480 And I'm saying for you, if you want women who don't, who aren't, like, sexually experienced, that's fine.
03:07:29.840 That's your preference.
03:07:30.740 That's what you want.
03:07:31.580 But there are some men out there who don't want that.
03:07:34.980 Sure, yeah.
03:07:35.660 There's some men that don't care.
03:07:38.560 But I would say, generally speaking, most men, if given the option, even for a one-night stand, would prefer the girl with, who's, I, most guys would actually prefer, like, a virgin for a one-night stand.
03:07:51.060 That is a really bold, generalized statement.
03:07:55.620 Yeah.
03:07:56.380 I mean, it's rare.
03:07:57.700 I would love to see, like, a stat on that.
03:07:59.280 To say most men would want a virgin.
03:08:02.000 Mm-hmm.
03:08:02.940 Most men would want a virgin for, I mean.
03:08:05.760 Why?
03:08:06.380 Yeah, why would they want a virgin?
03:08:07.180 I just want to know why.
03:08:08.220 Like, why does the body count matter?
03:08:10.960 For selfish reasons.
03:08:11.740 Like, would you want a virgin for, like, because virginity, for a lot of women, it's a pretty big thing, you know?
03:08:19.320 But guys don't think, ugh.
03:08:21.180 Guys wouldn't think that deep into it.
03:08:22.900 When they hear virgin, they think of all the things that they can teach her.
03:08:26.420 Like, for a one-night stand, how much teaching are you doing?
03:08:29.960 Yeah.
03:08:30.620 Especially with a virgin.
03:08:32.580 I don't think it's about teaching them.
03:08:34.280 I think it's some weird fascination.
03:08:36.500 I mean, like, I get it if you're, like, in a relationship with a girl.
03:08:38.620 But, like, a one-night stand, that's, like, totally something completely different.
03:08:41.940 You're both there for an exchange of sex and nothing else.
03:08:44.320 And, like, why are you going to go in with a girl who has no experience?
03:08:47.180 Maybe uncomfortable.
03:08:48.160 I mean, it hurts for some people.
03:08:49.760 And, like, you're going to go in there being like, oh, well, I want a virgin.
03:08:53.260 Why?
03:08:53.680 Like, why do you want...
03:08:54.680 Because men are attracted to sexual purity.
03:08:58.400 But isn't that kind of, like, sickening if you think about it?
03:09:01.140 How is that sickening?
03:09:02.020 Because it's romanticizing pedophilia.
03:09:03.940 It's pedophilia.
03:09:04.260 But they're not kids.
03:09:05.520 They're not kids.
03:09:06.480 They're not children.
03:09:07.120 We're talking about adult women.
03:09:08.860 You can be sexually pure, and that can mean either not being promiscuous or it could be
03:09:13.460 a pure woman.
03:09:14.000 When you think of, like, the most pure thing is you think of children in a sense.
03:09:17.660 Okay.
03:09:18.280 We're talking about adult relationships.
03:09:20.900 Yes.
03:09:21.380 But it's still very common for men who are in adult relationships to look for stuff that
03:09:25.220 remind them of pedophilia.
03:09:26.660 That's absurd.
03:09:27.720 It's not absurd.
03:09:28.260 That is absurd.
03:09:29.020 It's just very hidden within, like, our culture and things.
03:09:31.640 That, I mean, that is ridiculous.
03:09:34.520 I agree with her.
03:09:35.280 I mean, I agree with her.
03:09:35.740 It's very hidden.
03:09:36.460 It comes with the stuff that's like, I want hairlessness.
03:09:38.760 I want...
03:09:39.500 Hairless?
03:09:40.000 A guy who has a preference for a girl who, like, is shaved or has shaved her legs is pedophilic?
03:09:47.160 No, because it's when you think down to it.
03:09:49.720 It's like, where do you see people who have no hair?
03:09:51.800 Like, actually, naturally, it's kids.
03:09:53.880 So what about a woman who prefers a guy who shaves?
03:09:57.520 Down there?
03:09:58.320 Like, we're talking about guys who say, like, oh, I don't want, like, body hair on a woman.
03:10:02.000 That's way more of an obvious preference that guys have towards women than women ever have
03:10:06.260 towards guys.
03:10:06.780 I've never heard a girl say that.
03:10:07.820 I've never heard a guy say that.
03:10:09.000 I've heard a girl say that.
03:10:10.220 Like, been like, oh, if a guy has hair, no way.
03:10:12.420 But I've had heard guys.
03:10:13.340 I mean, and just talk...
03:10:14.040 But why do you guys have to, like...
03:10:16.060 It's so funny.
03:10:16.760 Whenever men have preferences, standards, or boundaries, it's almost always met with this,
03:10:21.520 like, vicious shaming.
03:10:23.720 If a guy wants a girl who, like, shaves her legs, her pubic area, her armpits, that's pedophilic.
03:10:31.200 Like, that's crazy.
03:10:32.300 Sam made that as one example of hidden things in what men, like...
03:10:37.040 Obviously, there's other things, like, well, you want a girl who's hygienic.
03:10:39.740 Obviously, there's other...
03:10:40.400 Yeah, there's hygiene.
03:10:42.240 But what I'm saying is there's many things that we have...
03:10:44.980 I mean, like, look at the porn industry.
03:10:46.580 Yeah.
03:10:47.040 A stepfather fucks stepdaughter.
03:10:48.340 Tell me that's not pedophilic.
03:10:52.140 Stepfather...
03:10:52.860 I mean, that's more incestuous than it is pedophilic.
03:10:57.220 But it's like a daughter.
03:10:58.620 I think a better example for the porn would be, like, freshly 18, like, blah, blah, blah.
03:11:03.520 Yeah, like, virgin, blah, blah, blah.
03:11:04.340 Like, first time, gets broken in.
03:11:06.040 Yeah.
03:11:06.680 Like, stuff like that.
03:11:08.420 Well, you're legally an adult at 18.
03:11:11.120 Yeah, but you're...
03:11:12.040 You don't see how that verges on...
03:11:13.660 Like, it's like you're waiting for her to turn 18.
03:11:16.140 We as a society have determined that there's a cutoff.
03:11:18.580 That cutoff is 18.
03:11:20.520 At 18, you're...
03:11:21.140 But you think, like, right at that day, like, her mindset changes?
03:11:24.020 Like, she's a completely nude person just because she turned 18?
03:11:26.400 Like, obviously, no, it's going to take time for a young girl or young man, I mean, boy,
03:11:31.040 to change.
03:11:31.940 Obviously, it takes your...
03:11:33.080 Like, I feel like your brain isn't fully developed until you're 25.
03:11:35.980 It's kind of a question.
03:11:36.940 Oh, hold on.
03:11:37.820 Okay, you go ahead.
03:11:38.980 But that girl, that freshly 18 girl, and I'm playing devil's advocate here.
03:11:43.260 I'm just trying to make it fun.
03:11:46.000 But she's in that bed with him making that video.
03:11:49.560 Obviously, there's...
03:11:50.520 The thing is, I'm not going to be like, hey, look, you can't do that.
03:11:54.160 If a girl wants to fuck a guy when she's 18 who's 35 or, like, plus, and she wants to
03:11:58.460 do that, good for her.
03:11:59.420 Like, that's what she wants to do.
03:12:00.560 But I'm saying when majority of men are seeking out just girls who are 18 and freshly 18, it's
03:12:07.800 like there's something wrong.
03:12:08.700 And when the virgin, the status of virginity and being a virgin and being, these words,
03:12:12.560 pure and innocent, that evokes childlike nature.
03:12:16.780 And you can't tell me that there's not something, like, young about this whole virginity.
03:12:23.220 I want her to have her virginity.
03:12:24.840 I want to break her in her virginity.
03:12:27.340 Like, why?
03:12:28.740 I just want...
03:12:29.800 Why do you want a virgin so badly?
03:12:31.560 And the thing is, it's such a double standard.
03:12:33.820 How's it a double standard?
03:12:34.880 Because when have I ever heard girls being like, I want a virgin?
03:12:37.360 It's so much more common.
03:12:38.440 Do men and women want the same thing?
03:12:40.380 Are men and women attracted to the exact same things?
03:12:43.140 No, obviously not.
03:12:44.380 But it's like, why are men always like, you have to be virgin, but I don't have to be?
03:12:48.900 Like, what?
03:12:49.440 Yeah.
03:12:49.880 Do you think that you, in order for you to want something in a partner, you yourself must
03:12:56.720 possess that exact same quality?
03:12:58.900 Usually, if it's something that's like, make it or break it.
03:13:02.600 Like, it's like, if it's the same thing about partying.
03:13:04.940 Like, you were saying, well, I'm not going to make it a double standard.
03:13:07.380 I'm going to make sure I don't party and my girl's not going to party.
03:13:10.240 So why are you going to be like, I want a virgin, but I don't have to be a virgin?
03:13:13.520 And that's a double standard right there.
03:13:15.380 I think some guys also want a virgin is because they know that they're the only person who's
03:13:20.520 like...
03:13:21.480 That's like, the only, like, one I've heard that's like, kind of okay, but it's just so
03:13:26.100 like...
03:13:26.700 Kind of possessive.
03:13:27.820 Yeah.
03:13:28.060 It's like, why do you care about her past if it had nothing to do with you?
03:13:31.840 Unless she's like, murdering people.
03:13:33.860 Why do you care about someone's past?
03:13:36.040 Unless she's like...
03:13:36.760 Okay.
03:13:36.900 I'll tell you...
03:13:37.380 Well, there's a whole lot to touch on there.
03:13:40.220 So, the first one I'm going to touch on is the double standard, and then I'm going to
03:13:46.040 touch on body...
03:13:47.720 I'll talk about the age stuff, and then I'll talk about the body count.
03:13:51.140 About how much longer is this going to go on?
03:13:54.380 I mean, just the conversation's flowing, you know?
03:13:57.520 I'll try to wrap within, like, aim to wrap within 30 minutes or so.
03:14:02.580 That's the goal.
03:14:03.440 Are we still doing, like, the dating apps?
03:14:05.320 Yes, I will get to it.
03:14:06.820 I want to get to yours, Tatum.
03:14:08.040 I know we've just...
03:14:09.040 The conversation's been flowing.
03:14:10.600 Okay.
03:14:10.980 So, you mentioned the double standard, right?
03:14:13.460 That, well, you don't often hear women say that they want a guy who's a virgin.
03:14:20.880 Well, first off, I don't have a double standard on this.
03:14:23.740 If a woman wants a guy with a low body count or a guy who's virgin, I don't have a problem
03:14:30.020 with that.
03:14:30.500 Because you're a virgin.
03:14:31.720 What?
03:14:32.260 Well, then why would you have...
03:14:33.980 I don't have an issue if that's what a girl wants.
03:14:36.520 Yeah, well, that was the thing we were saying.
03:14:37.380 Because people are entitled to have their preferences.
03:14:39.380 Yeah, we were saying it's fine if you want a low body count, but it's the thing when you
03:14:42.260 start fetishizing, like, a virgin.
03:14:44.880 It's not fetishization.
03:14:47.020 It's just wanting something, the partner, having a preference or a standard or a boundary.
03:14:51.260 So, well, you haven't explained why you would like a virgin.
03:14:54.340 I'll get to that.
03:14:55.580 So, it's just funny to me.
03:14:57.600 Like, men are not allowed to have preferences, standards, and boundaries.
03:15:01.540 Men are so allowed to have references.
03:15:05.580 The shaming language has been through the roof.
03:15:08.040 It's insecure.
03:15:08.860 It's controlling.
03:15:10.080 The P word.
03:15:12.940 Like, it's been almost crazy.
03:15:16.180 Like, the degree to which you are trying to...
03:15:19.760 Fuck, what's the term?
03:15:23.900 You are trying to pathologize men's almost innate attraction to women who are not promiscuous.
03:15:33.300 Like, you're pathologizing men's attraction to women who are not whores, basically.
03:15:38.320 No, I don't think...
03:15:39.280 You weren't saying, like, you guys can't have preference.
03:15:42.240 No, but you're saying it's pedophilic that men are attracted to women who are not promiscuous.
03:15:48.620 Yeah, because if you, like, look at society and the way things are, like, it's totally, like, this big...
03:15:53.540 Like, the porn industry makes so much money on, like, fetishizing pedophilia.
03:15:59.060 How about how, like...
03:15:59.440 No, it doesn't.
03:16:00.220 Yes, it does.
03:16:00.760 That's illegal.
03:16:02.240 Obviously, they don't actually use girls who are underage, but they do...
03:16:05.160 If you look on there, there's going to be a bunch of stuff about underage things.
03:16:07.980 Sometimes they do actually have used girls who are underage, and it just flies because...
03:16:13.180 Okay, we're not going to talk about that.
03:16:14.520 That's...
03:16:15.120 Why?
03:16:16.140 Because it's TOS.
03:16:17.360 We're not going to talk about that.
03:16:19.100 But, yes, it does happen.
03:16:21.560 So, okay.
03:16:22.660 The double standard.
03:16:24.060 So, you mentioned that why don't...
03:16:29.220 What was it that men don't want?
03:16:30.920 Well, like, what's the, like, real...
03:16:33.380 Like, because I was saying that, like, you don't really hear women go, oh, I need a virgin,
03:16:37.180 or, like, if she's not a virgin, or he's not a virgin, I don't want it.
03:16:40.320 So, it's like...
03:16:41.080 He's allowed to be a whore, but she can't.
03:16:43.800 And also, like, I don't...
03:16:45.020 Yeah, I don't get that.
03:16:45.720 Eric, can you close the door, by the way?
03:16:47.700 For the guy to be a whore, but for the woman to be, like, very pure.
03:16:52.280 Okay.
03:16:52.620 Well, so there's a few things.
03:16:53.600 So, first off, me personally, if a woman's standard is, hey, I don't want to date a guy who's promiscuous.
03:17:00.400 I don't want to date, like, a guy who's a player.
03:17:02.960 I think that's totally fine.
03:17:03.880 I don't have a double standard there.
03:17:05.540 I think it does happen to be the case that, generally speaking, women care far less about body count than men do.
03:17:11.340 Now, as far as the double standard goes, one of the reasons why men are sort of applauded when they can have a high body count,
03:17:20.740 and a woman is shamed or looked down upon because she has a high body count,
03:17:24.380 it has to come down...
03:17:25.400 It comes down to the fact that it's impressive for a guy to be able to sleep with a lot of women,
03:17:30.060 whereas it's not impressive for a woman to sleep with a lot of men.
03:17:33.080 It's very easy for women to sleep with men.
03:17:35.080 It's incredibly easy for women to sleep with men.
03:17:37.600 Even average women, even below average women, have more sexual options than, like, a top-tier man.
03:17:44.040 So that's why that double standard exists, because it's not impressive when women do it.
03:17:49.260 And it does stem from, for both men and women, up until the 1960s, sexual purity, chastity,
03:18:02.260 has been valued in both genders up until very recently.
03:18:07.240 Birth control kind of came out in the 1960s.
03:18:09.940 That sort of opened up a lot of people's sexual options.
03:18:13.260 And, you know, with religion, Christianity on the decline,
03:18:17.940 I'm not making a religious argument here, I'm just saying,
03:18:20.580 culturally, we have shifted quite a bit.
03:18:23.420 It was the norm for thousands of years for both male and female chastity to be valued.
03:18:29.440 Yeah, it was.
03:18:30.380 Yeah.
03:18:31.060 But, so, again, with the double standards,
03:18:34.020 are there things that you desire in a partner that you do not possess yourself?
03:18:38.140 Because you were saying, well, it's hypocritical for a guy who,
03:18:41.220 if he has a high body count, he shouldn't want a girl who has a high body count.
03:18:44.560 I mean, like, biologically, besides biological stuff,
03:18:47.180 besides, like, I don't know, them having a dick, but, like...
03:18:50.180 You don't know about having a dick?
03:18:51.560 Yeah, like, I want them to have a dick, but I don't want, I don't have one,
03:18:54.840 so it's a little different.
03:18:56.020 But with things that are, like, that I can, like, can control themselves,
03:19:01.760 meaning, like, personality or, like, body count or whatever,
03:19:04.680 yeah, I mean, I would like for us to reciprocate the same things.
03:19:07.960 Okay, let me ask you a couple questions.
03:19:10.480 And I just want other people to potentially weigh in here.
03:19:15.740 Are there things you desire?
03:19:17.340 Well, do you agree with her?
03:19:18.760 Do you agree with what she just said?
03:19:20.140 Mm-hmm.
03:19:21.420 So, all the traits that you want in a partner, you must possess yourself.
03:19:26.920 Physically, I don't think that it's the same thing.
03:19:29.560 Because, like, chastity is an experience thing.
03:19:32.780 It's something you've chosen to do.
03:19:34.120 Well, it could be a problem.
03:19:34.780 The same look isn't something you choose.
03:19:36.780 Yeah.
03:19:37.080 Okay.
03:19:37.300 I think, you know.
03:19:39.420 Sure.
03:19:40.160 So, I don't think, appearance-wise, that has anything to do with it.
03:19:44.140 But in terms of, like, their past experiences, sure.
03:19:47.920 Okay.
03:19:48.740 So, you kind of, I mean, the way I was going to attack this was,
03:19:56.280 women want men who are tall, yet they are not tall themselves.
03:20:00.160 Well, see, yeah, that's something.
03:20:01.160 There's more.
03:20:01.720 I have more.
03:20:02.440 I'm tall.
03:20:03.860 Huh?
03:20:04.540 I am tall.
03:20:06.720 Okay.
03:20:07.360 Did you say the minimum height you want for a guy?
03:20:10.480 Yeah, I said preferably six foot or above,
03:20:13.720 which six foot is just, like, an inch taller than me.
03:20:16.720 Sure.
03:20:17.560 But you're 5'11".
03:20:19.100 You're quite tall.
03:20:19.880 However, generally, generally speaking, most women are attracted to tall men,
03:20:26.300 yet they are not tall themselves.
03:20:28.000 That is you desiring something in a person,
03:20:31.100 which I would say someone's height is far more superficial than someone's body count.
03:20:37.760 So, there's that.
03:20:39.600 Women want men who are funny, but they may not necessarily be funny themselves.
03:20:44.480 Women want men who are charismatic, yet they may not be charismatic themselves.
03:20:48.220 But this is, like, taking something like life experiences.
03:20:51.720 Yeah, and also...
03:20:52.560 Life experience?
03:20:53.140 I mean, some...
03:20:54.900 Okay, you're...
03:20:55.780 If you're promiscuous, that says something about your values.
03:21:00.500 Why?
03:21:02.020 That...
03:21:02.780 It's how you value sex.
03:21:05.300 You...
03:21:05.620 If you're promiscuous, sex to you, you've decoupled intimacy from sex to some degree.
03:21:11.540 You view sex as sport.
03:21:13.400 It's just sport fucking.
03:21:14.340 Whereas some people view sex as this intimate thing that they want to have with someone
03:21:18.760 in a...
03:21:19.960 Within the confines of a monogamous relationship.
03:21:22.860 And it's fine if you want to do casual sex.
03:21:24.920 That's fine if you want to do that.
03:21:26.680 But it is a metric with which some guy might want to disqualify you.
03:21:31.640 I mean, and you said devalue you.
03:21:35.000 Devalue you?
03:21:35.660 Yeah, you said there's less value for people who are more promiscuous.
03:21:39.020 I don't think that's quite what I said, but what do you mean?
03:21:43.300 I think a lot of these people, these men you talk about who want virgins, see women with
03:21:48.780 more body, a higher body count as less valuable.
03:21:52.320 I've heard those words.
03:21:53.800 Okay, so you're talking like...
03:21:55.300 So there's a sexual market value, relationship market value.
03:21:58.440 So value in the sense of, not your value as a human being, not in that sense, but in your
03:22:07.460 value on the dating marketplace.
03:22:12.200 Like you have...
03:22:13.520 Okay.
03:22:14.440 The guy who works at Starbucks, who's average looking, has less value on the dating marketplace
03:22:21.060 than does Henry Cavill.
03:22:23.200 Yeah.
03:22:23.800 Or like a really attractive guy.
03:22:25.360 And you might say, Brian, that's wrong.
03:22:27.080 Okay, if you want to be politically correct, fine.
03:22:32.720 The reality is, is that there are certain people that are more attractive than other
03:22:37.060 people.
03:22:38.860 It is what it is.
03:22:39.800 But I'm confused.
03:22:40.500 What does this have to do with the fact that I said...
03:22:42.820 Well, I'm responding to her, but go ahead.
03:22:44.080 But like how I said I would want my person to reciprocate the same things, but not like
03:22:49.620 physical, because obviously that's different.
03:22:51.600 Oh, so it only applies when it benefits you.
03:22:54.500 No, like if we have the same like things, that's like, let's say I, obviously you want
03:23:00.280 someone who you're similar to, or you don't want someone who you're like completely opposite
03:23:03.420 of, but like if I'm a person who doesn't go out, I'm going to want someone who doesn't
03:23:08.060 go out.
03:23:08.560 And that's fine.
03:23:09.660 So if I'm someone who has a high body count or a low body count, I would want the same
03:23:14.800 thing for my partner.
03:23:15.860 How is that like wrong?
03:23:17.980 Like, and how is that like...
03:23:19.020 That's a double standard.
03:23:19.760 And it's a double standard for the guys to be like, oh, well, I can have a high body count,
03:23:24.640 but you can't.
03:23:25.400 I mean, obviously there's some girls out there who would love that and will take it, but
03:23:28.760 I'm just saying for me, I wouldn't do it.
03:23:30.620 But I guess what I'm trying to say here is that there are things that you possess that
03:23:36.360 you do not desire in a partner, and there are some things that you do not possess that
03:23:41.900 you desire in a partner.
03:23:43.480 I'm like, give me another example other than physical.
03:23:46.820 Who should pay on a first date?
03:23:48.760 Split the check.
03:23:49.600 You'd like to split the check?
03:23:50.660 Split the check.
03:23:51.560 I've paid before.
03:23:53.580 Who should pay on the first date?
03:23:54.740 I'd like him to pay.
03:23:55.920 You'd like him to pay?
03:23:57.560 Anybody over here?
03:23:58.320 I think it's whoever invites.
03:24:00.380 Yeah, that's also true.
03:24:01.500 Like if I'm going to take you out on a date.
03:24:02.560 And if he's making like exponentially a lot more money.
03:24:03.780 Girls don't really ask men out on first dates, but what?
03:24:05.960 I said if he's making exponentially more money, I feel like that makes sense for him to pay.
03:24:13.800 Okay.
03:24:14.620 Well, I mean, a lot of the girls here are in college, so I don't suspect that a lot of
03:24:20.060 the men you guys are dating are making any money or much money.
03:24:26.040 But okay, so who should ask?
03:24:30.780 Okay, of all the, sorry, what's up?
03:24:34.100 Oh.
03:24:34.200 I knew that that was going to come up.
03:24:37.840 I knew that that analogy was going to get brought up.
03:24:39.940 Yeah.
03:24:42.100 Okay, so.
03:24:43.220 I hate that analogy.
03:24:44.760 Do you want a man who's physically strong?
03:24:48.460 Um, no.
03:24:49.800 I like, yes and no.
03:24:50.820 You want a guy who struggles to do one push-up?
03:24:52.660 I mean, like.
03:24:54.060 That would be a turn off.
03:24:54.840 It's possible, but like, I'm, there are skinny guys who I find very attractive.
03:24:58.420 Like sometimes skinny scrawny boys who look like they're dying can be really hot.
03:25:01.760 Timothy Chalamet.
03:25:04.480 What?
03:25:05.200 Okay.
03:25:08.040 Have you ever?
03:25:08.600 Like Pete Davidson vibes.
03:25:09.840 Or like, Timothy Chalamet looks pretty twiggy if you ask me.
03:25:12.580 Like so many girls are over him.
03:25:14.420 I don't think.
03:25:14.600 He just has a nice face.
03:25:15.780 He does.
03:25:16.080 And he's like charismatic.
03:25:16.960 I don't think that matters either as much.
03:25:19.500 Do you, do you want a 50-50 relationship?
03:25:22.360 I want a 100-100 relationship.
03:25:24.360 Okay.
03:25:25.040 Semantics.
03:25:25.500 But okay.
03:25:25.840 Okay.
03:25:25.880 Have you ever asked out a guy?
03:25:33.120 Yes.
03:25:33.920 Okay.
03:25:34.480 Of all the times, have you been on first dates?
03:25:36.960 Yes.
03:25:37.720 Okay.
03:25:38.180 Of all the first dates you've been on, did you initiate that more so or did the guy?
03:25:42.620 Probably majority were the guy.
03:25:45.340 I'm, yeah, I haven't been on that many dates.
03:25:47.360 Okay.
03:25:47.600 I would say, look, I know there's some outliers here, but generally speaking, I would say most
03:25:52.440 women prefer the guy to make the first move, for example.
03:25:55.880 Right?
03:25:56.280 Let me ask.
03:25:56.740 I mean, when it comes to the first kiss, would you prefer the guy to make the first move
03:25:59.840 or would you, do you make the first move for the first kiss?
03:26:03.480 Either way.
03:26:04.640 I don't know.
03:26:05.320 I'm pretty ballsy.
03:26:06.160 I wouldn't really care.
03:26:06.580 I think it's nice to be asked at first, but I think a lot of girls our age these days
03:26:11.480 know what they want and aren't afraid to go ask for it.
03:26:16.280 I feel like.
03:26:16.980 Is that like so hard to believe?
03:26:18.360 No, there are women who initiate, but look, generally speaking, like men are the initiators
03:26:23.680 in 99% of all instances.
03:26:27.480 Yeah.
03:26:27.960 I would say men instigate way more than women do.
03:26:30.480 Yeah.
03:26:30.500 From making the approach, getting the number, setting up the date, texting, going for the
03:26:35.880 first kiss, moving things forward sexually.
03:26:38.140 Men are going to initiate overwhelmingly.
03:26:41.140 The overwhelming amount of time.
03:26:42.440 And most women want that.
03:26:46.640 Women aren't, a lot of women don't want to make the first move.
03:26:49.300 They don't want to go for the first kiss.
03:26:52.260 Well, do most men want girls who are like over making the first move and like making the
03:26:56.860 first kiss?
03:26:57.300 Because I feel like most men don't want that either.
03:26:59.380 Like it's a reciprocated thing.
03:27:01.300 It's like, they want them to be more like.
03:27:03.360 They want to chase.
03:27:03.960 They want to take care of them.
03:27:04.960 They want to like chase after them.
03:27:06.080 It's not like a thing where guys are like, why am I not getting women who are chasing after
03:27:09.700 me?
03:27:12.700 We can have a conversation about that.
03:27:13.060 But the point, the point I'm trying to make is that that which you want in someone, you
03:27:20.880 might not be bringing that same thing to the relationship.
03:27:24.260 Men and women are different.
03:27:25.580 We want different things.
03:27:26.840 I don't want to necessarily a mirror image of myself.
03:27:30.800 So to bring it back to the body count thing, if you can't, there are things that you do not
03:27:39.100 possess or things that you do not do that you desire your partner to do.
03:27:45.580 Chiefly, a lot of women would prefer men to take initiative, to take the lead, but you
03:27:50.840 don't take the lead.
03:27:51.880 In that same way, a man with a high body count could want a girl with a low body count.
03:27:57.220 But are those comparable wanting someone to approach you and wanting someone who's a virgin?
03:28:02.120 But well, or a low body count, but yes, it is the same.
03:28:05.680 Like you were just basically saying the same thing, like where you were like, um, talking
03:28:12.220 about how girls with a, like you were saying that you wanted them to be reciprocated with
03:28:16.540 other stuff like the, the parting or other things.
03:28:19.120 It's like, why does that not like make sense for you for when it comes to like a body count?
03:28:24.760 Like, I'm not saying like, I don't want reciprocity in all realms, but there's certainly some things
03:28:30.320 that I possess that I want a partner to possess, but there are some traits that I possess that
03:28:35.720 I would not want in a girlfriend.
03:28:37.860 But then when you look back at it, like, let's say you're a guy with a high body count and
03:28:40.660 you're looking for a girl with a low body count and you're like, because it shows their
03:28:43.720 values and their things.
03:28:45.040 When did you look back at yourself and be like, Hey, look, it shows my values and my things
03:28:48.180 and how I am not that good of a person.
03:28:50.780 If you're going to judge someone on that, wouldn't you judge yourself?
03:28:53.440 Why are you just attacking like exteriorly?
03:28:56.020 Okay.
03:28:56.300 So I, I don't necessarily think that it's, it's a good, a good thing for men to be promiscuous
03:29:01.920 either.
03:29:03.080 I acknowledge that there's differences.
03:29:05.200 Um, I, I think society functions best and perhaps this is a idealistic, but I think society
03:29:12.620 functions best when you have long-term relationships and I don't think hookup culture is good.
03:29:21.200 I don't think women are happy with it.
03:29:22.960 I don't think men are happy with it.
03:29:25.320 And I don't think promiscuity is good for either men or for women.
03:29:31.040 However, if a man wants, if a man who has a high body count prefers a woman with a low
03:29:37.420 body count, I don't think that's wrong or hypocritical because you can desire something
03:29:43.040 in a partner that you yourself do not possess.
03:29:46.220 Okay.
03:29:46.740 Well, yeah, maybe it's not wrong or hypocritical, but it wouldn't be wrong or hypocritical of me
03:29:50.960 to not like to be against that and be like, well, I don't, that's not what I want either.
03:29:55.700 Okay.
03:29:56.500 It's like my own preference.
03:29:57.440 Totally fine.
03:29:58.020 So I want to move on from this body count.
03:30:01.060 You, you asked me why body count matters.
03:30:02.840 You were kind of pushing at me to get.
03:30:04.180 Yeah.
03:30:04.460 I want to know the whole virgin thing.
03:30:07.260 Okay.
03:30:07.720 I mean, there's quite a few reasons.
03:30:09.200 So first off, it's a natural biological response in men that does not exist in women.
03:30:15.660 And that comes down to paternity uncertainty.
03:30:19.740 So up until very recently, DNA testing, that's a very new thing.
03:30:23.620 If a woman has 10 husbands and she's sleeping with all of them, say this is 40, 50 years ago,
03:30:29.580 and she's sleeping with all of them, who's the father?
03:30:33.160 You don't know.
03:30:34.320 However, if a man has 10 wives, you know who the father is in all those, and he's sleeping
03:30:40.200 with all of them.
03:30:41.280 You know who the mother is.
03:30:42.340 You know who the father is.
03:30:43.700 So men have this, and this is one of the reasons why it matters more to men.
03:30:47.720 We have this evolutionary psychology, evo psych basis for wanting a woman who's not promiscuous
03:30:54.960 because a woman who's promiscuous, you can't guarantee if she's sleeping with a bunch of guys,
03:30:59.920 you can't guarantee that you're the father of the child.
03:31:04.200 Can't you break that evo psych?
03:31:05.880 Because we break certain evo psychs from the past where it goes like...
03:31:09.360 We're social creatures.
03:31:10.740 We've evolved from that.
03:31:12.020 Yeah, we're not killing people with our bare hands still.
03:31:14.120 Obviously, you're going to evolve with that as well.
03:31:17.040 Why are women attracted to tall men?
03:31:19.840 Why are women attracted to tall men?
03:31:21.660 Probably because they feel like it's someone you can protect them.
03:31:26.480 But that has an evolutionary psychology basis.
03:31:30.940 A guy who's physically strong, who's physically large, is more capable of protecting you.
03:31:36.560 That's why women are attracted to tall men.
03:31:38.560 Okay, I'm not going to speak because I do know there's some women who only want tall men.
03:31:42.480 Most women prefer tall men.
03:31:44.860 Most women.
03:31:45.860 I'm not saying all.
03:31:47.280 I mean, there's not that many tall men out there.
03:31:49.940 So it's kind of like...
03:31:51.700 Well, most men are taller than most women.
03:31:55.380 Yes, obviously most men are taller than most women.
03:31:57.120 Most women would have an issue dating a guy who's shorter than you, for example.
03:32:01.300 Okay, why?
03:32:02.420 That has absolutely...
03:32:03.780 That has less of an impact on who you are as a partner than does someone's body count.
03:32:08.020 Yet women care deeply about someone's height.
03:32:10.160 It wouldn't bother me because I literally said before this.
03:32:12.720 How tall are you? 5'4"?
03:32:13.660 Yeah.
03:32:14.280 You date a guy who's 5'4"?
03:32:16.400 Be honest.
03:32:17.100 5'5"?
03:32:17.700 5'5"?
03:32:18.400 5'5"?
03:32:18.480 Yes.
03:32:18.920 5'5 is like...
03:32:20.900 Is that...
03:32:21.500 I feel like I wouldn't even meet a guy that's 5'5".
03:32:23.780 Sure, but I'm trying to use a more extreme example to kind of get to the point.
03:32:29.620 Well, that's not like a real-life example, though.
03:32:31.760 A real-life example would be if I met a guy who's my height, and that could be possible.
03:32:35.900 I mean, it would still be rare.
03:32:36.700 You would still prefer to date a guy who's taller, though, correct?
03:32:39.880 Yeah, who's at least...
03:32:41.720 I mean, honestly, if you're eye level, it's fine.
03:32:43.600 If you see she pulled up Tom Holland and Zendaya, that's still a really cute couple,
03:32:48.780 and she's taller than him.
03:32:50.800 Okay, sure.
03:32:51.600 Sure, but would you agree that, generally speaking, most women, 50% or more of women,
03:32:57.660 have a preference for men who are taller than them?
03:32:59.920 Yeah, and most men are taller than them, so how is that an issue?
03:33:03.120 Because most men will be...
03:33:04.400 The average height for a guy is 5'8", the average height for a girl is 5'4".
03:33:07.420 But they don't have that preference...
03:33:08.820 They don't have a preference for taller men because it happens to be the case
03:33:12.080 that most men are just naturally taller.
03:33:16.120 It does happen to be the case.
03:33:17.420 Most men are naturally taller.
03:33:18.620 Yes, most men are naturally taller, but that's not why...
03:33:23.080 It's not because there's a lot of men that are naturally taller than women that women are attracted to that.
03:33:29.860 I mean...
03:33:30.720 Women are attracted to tall men because it comes down to protection, provisioning.
03:33:37.560 A guy who's physically bigger, who's physically taller than you, is more capable of protecting you.
03:33:42.540 When I'm fishing out for a guy, like, if I'm, like, looking for a guy, I'm not going to be, like, mmm...
03:33:47.000 It's not even something women intellectualize.
03:33:50.900 Also, I feel like the...
03:33:54.000 I don't think height can be, like, a make-or-break for women.
03:33:59.680 Like, if they like someone, I think height won't be an issue,
03:34:02.680 whereas with this whole virginity thing, it seems like it's, like, a make-or-break, you will only take a virgin.
03:34:08.700 No, I never said that.
03:34:10.160 Or these men will.
03:34:10.740 Well, the guys in the chat, probably.
03:34:12.680 Were they saying no hymen, no diamonds?
03:34:14.580 Is that the fucking saying?
03:34:15.960 Yeah.
03:34:16.520 So, like, certain stuff like that.
03:34:18.040 I mean, like, the whole key thing was brought up about how, like...
03:34:21.300 I mean, I'm not, like, saying...
03:34:23.500 Like, obviously, like, I'm not going to have a high-ass body count if I want a guy who, like...
03:34:28.220 But, I mean, like, I guess why...
03:34:30.180 Most...
03:34:30.660 Even most women themselves don't want to be promiscuous.
03:34:34.100 So, it's just, like, why defend?
03:34:36.240 Well, I'm not...
03:34:37.140 I'm not trying to defend promisc...
03:34:38.480 I'm trying to, like, understand.
03:34:39.460 I was, like...
03:34:39.980 I was fine with the whole, like, you saying, like, you want a low body count.
03:34:42.520 But the thing that, like, made me upset was the whole thing.
03:34:44.460 The virgin thing?
03:34:45.220 No, where it's, like, you can have a low body count, but I don't have to.
03:34:48.320 Like, because that's a double standard in my opinion.
03:34:50.000 Or you mean a high body count?
03:34:51.520 Oh, yeah, yeah.
03:34:51.960 Yeah, yeah.
03:34:52.280 Yeah, like, where it's, like, you have to have a low one, but I don't have to have a low one.
03:34:56.200 That's what, like, I was, like, well, what?
03:34:58.040 That's, like, not fair.
03:35:00.040 Well, I mean, I don't think it's necessarily hypocritical.
03:35:04.920 I don't think it's hypocritical to...
03:35:08.440 And I'm maybe beating a dead horse here.
03:35:11.760 I don't think it's hypocritical to desire something in a partner that you yourself do not possess.
03:35:18.020 Like, I want a woman who's really feminine.
03:35:21.820 I'm not feminine, but I want a feminine woman.
03:35:24.960 But that's not something that you guys can both have the same thing on.
03:35:27.940 Like, I mean, like, if you think about it, like, body count is something that you guys are...
03:35:31.940 Like, it's, like, that's another example.
03:35:34.260 Like, working out.
03:35:34.940 That's something that you guys both have an experience.
03:35:37.320 Like, it's a thing that, like, you guys experience.
03:35:40.100 It's not, like, something that you carry on physically or something like that.
03:35:43.380 Okay.
03:35:46.240 Did you want to come in?
03:35:47.440 No.
03:35:47.840 Oh.
03:35:48.620 Okay.
03:35:50.540 Did you have something else?
03:35:51.840 I mean, I don't...
03:35:53.400 I need to get through a little bit more of the body count stuff.
03:35:56.340 So, there's also an STD risk.
03:35:59.240 That's why men care about body count, too.
03:36:01.120 Well, I get that.
03:36:01.900 That's, like, a whole different thing.
03:36:02.860 I mean, men and women can both care about that, certainly.
03:36:04.720 Yeah, that's totally, like, a whole different thing.
03:36:06.180 The more promiscuous you are, the more...
03:36:08.620 The greater likelihood of getting an STD.
03:36:11.380 That is very true.
03:36:12.420 So, that's a thing.
03:36:14.440 That's both sides.
03:36:15.620 Yeah, obviously.
03:36:16.160 Yeah, that's both sides.
03:36:17.040 But that's one reason why men care about body count.
03:36:21.420 I mean, I understand why they care about body count.
03:36:23.920 I just was not getting the whole thing about, like, the whole...
03:36:26.880 Where it's, like, you have to have the low one and I don't.
03:36:29.700 Well, I mean, I've given...
03:36:31.020 It seems like you don't agree with me, which is fine.
03:36:32.960 But I've already basically given you my position.
03:36:35.960 That my position is you need not have the same traits or characteristics in yourself that you desire in a partner.
03:36:44.740 And you think it's different and perhaps you disagree.
03:36:47.400 I don't know if we'll find common ground on that front.
03:36:49.160 And so, I'm just...
03:36:50.040 I mean, I don't know if...
03:36:51.360 I have not convinced you on that.
03:36:52.800 So, I'll just keep it moving.
03:36:54.220 But the other thing is a reputational thing.
03:36:58.120 If you're dating a promiscuous girl and all your buddies hooked up with her, it's, like, a reputational thing, too.
03:37:03.640 Also, if I'm close...
03:37:04.500 Like, if you're, like, in business, right?
03:37:08.860 And this is a shitty example.
03:37:10.040 This is not a good one that's going to convince anybody.
03:37:12.060 But it is reputational.
03:37:13.320 Like, nobody wants to be with a girl and, like...
03:37:17.320 And maybe you guys feel the same way.
03:37:18.620 Like, you don't want to get with a guy and all your girlfriends hooked up with him.
03:37:22.660 Yeah, no.
03:37:23.160 Of course not.
03:37:23.920 Yeah.
03:37:24.220 So, like, we don't want a girl...
03:37:25.820 But if it was, like, a girl who had just come to town, she didn't have any ties to other people, and she happened to have...
03:37:31.440 A hundred bodies.
03:37:33.060 I feel like that's extreme.
03:37:34.180 Not a hundred, but, like...
03:37:35.400 Hey, I know some 19-year-old girls.
03:37:36.640 Actually, I know a 17-year-old girl with a hundred bodies.
03:37:41.200 Well, I don't know her my...
03:37:42.680 Is she okay?
03:37:43.920 Like, is there something...
03:37:45.280 Mike, it's...
03:37:46.340 I think, actually, you might know her.
03:37:49.460 Who is it?
03:37:50.260 I think it's either Tristan or Luke's.
03:37:52.940 One of their friends that, like, they just graduated high school.
03:37:57.180 And...
03:37:57.820 You don't...
03:37:58.780 Did you know?
03:37:59.980 Tristan?
03:38:00.740 Tristan.
03:38:01.300 What about Tristan?
03:38:02.580 He knows a girl.
03:38:03.740 I don't know her.
03:38:04.300 He knows her.
03:38:04.780 He told me about her.
03:38:05.720 He knows a girl.
03:38:07.620 17's, like, slept with a hundred dudes.
03:38:10.300 I don't know who she is.
03:38:11.240 Okay.
03:38:11.760 In any case, it doesn't matter.
03:38:12.680 I know a 19-year-old girl that slept with a hundred dudes.
03:38:14.660 Like, so it's not that out there.
03:38:19.500 But continue on.
03:38:21.440 Oh, I was just saying, I don't know, that's pretty crazy for a girl who has, like, a hundred
03:38:25.400 body counts at the age of 17.
03:38:26.640 No, you were saying reputationally.
03:38:28.060 What if she was just new to town?
03:38:29.580 I mean, it's just a reputation thing.
03:38:30.900 I mean, it's reputation.
03:38:32.780 Um, the big thing is, is that, okay, there's, there's kind of like three major things.
03:38:38.600 So, the more sexual partners you've had, the more promiscuous you are, the greater likelihood
03:38:46.580 of infidelity.
03:38:48.040 The more promiscuous you are, the greater...
03:38:50.180 That goes both ways.
03:38:50.660 Sure.
03:38:51.800 But that's why it matters to men.
03:38:54.360 Um, the greater likelihood of infidelity, the greater likelihood of reporting relationship
03:38:59.460 dissatisfaction.
03:39:01.140 Also, pair bonding.
03:39:03.180 Your ability to pair and bond with someone after you've had so many previous boyfriends
03:39:09.040 and relationships and experiences and baggage and fights just continually starts to get chipped
03:39:15.620 away as you continue to have more and more partners.
03:39:18.360 Okay.
03:39:21.660 I see, like, where some of these points are coming from, for the most part, besides the
03:39:26.980 double standard thing for, like, where it's just applicable to women.
03:39:31.520 The part I don't think that resonates is that the verbiage you're...
03:39:36.480 Like, this isn't the type of verbiage that most guys who are like, I want a virgin are
03:39:40.160 using.
03:39:41.560 The most guys that are like, I only want a virgin, it's not for these reasons that you're
03:39:46.040 bringing up that are, like, valid points.
03:39:48.360 Like, it's because they have this obsession with virginity that I'm, like, I don't understand.
03:39:54.720 Do you know what I'm saying?
03:39:56.240 Like, the majority of these men...
03:39:57.980 I don't know who these men are.
03:39:58.740 I don't think they know these...
03:40:00.160 What?
03:40:01.260 When you say these men, I'm not sure who you're referring to.
03:40:03.760 Mainly the people in the chat.
03:40:04.420 I don't, yeah, I don't know.
03:40:09.440 But, look, the pair bonding thing is the big one.
03:40:13.680 Once you've had a ton of relationships, once you've had a ton of partners, you lose your
03:40:19.620 ability.
03:40:20.320 And also, if you view sex as this casual thing, you decouple intimacy from sex.
03:40:25.080 That's how people, a lot of people bond.
03:40:29.840 One of the big ways people bond is through sex.
03:40:32.040 And if it's a sport to you, if it's just sport fucking, if sex to you is just like a
03:40:37.860 handshake, if it's just nothing to you, then...
03:40:42.020 Yeah, I wouldn't want that either.
03:40:43.480 That's something like you...
03:40:44.540 I wouldn't want to, like, have someone who just thinks sex is just like a one-night
03:40:48.460 type of thing.
03:40:49.060 Like, obviously, I want someone who views sex as a very intimate...
03:40:53.460 Yeah, I mean, a high body count, it's like, it's an indicator of her general attitude towards
03:40:58.720 sex.
03:40:59.340 It tends to suggest that sex, it's not something particularly intimate to her.
03:41:04.280 It's rather sport, pleasure, excitement.
03:41:07.740 So, greater likelihood of cheating.
03:41:09.860 High body count equals high probability of cheating.
03:41:11.820 It's also like, if you're number 51, it's just like, I don't know, the first moment that
03:41:22.980 there's a difficulty or a rough patch in the relationship, if you're number 51, she's going
03:41:27.620 to be like, you know what, new answers, new guy, I'm out.
03:41:32.600 Someone with a high body count is much less likely to stick it out in a difficult part of
03:41:37.120 a relationship.
03:41:37.640 You don't understand the virginity thing because you could never fathom being tricked into raising
03:41:44.740 a child that isn't yours.
03:41:47.480 Yeah, so...
03:41:48.380 We have DNA tests for that now.
03:41:51.160 That doesn't undo...
03:41:53.180 It doesn't undo the gut feeling that men have when it comes to promiscuous women.
03:42:00.780 I don't think...
03:42:01.800 Women can't really empathize with this because women...
03:42:05.280 You can't, like...
03:42:06.820 A guy can't commit, I suppose it would be called a maternity fraud on you, but it's a
03:42:12.880 very real fear for a man to, like, say with a partner that he wants to have a child with.
03:42:19.100 It's a very real fear that if he has a kid with...
03:42:23.240 Or thinks he has a kid with that woman, but the kid's not his.
03:42:26.320 Women...
03:42:26.680 That can't happen to a woman.
03:42:27.940 If you get cheated...
03:42:31.480 Like, you cannot...
03:42:33.220 If you have a kid, you know for a fact that kid is yours.
03:42:36.080 If a man has a kid, absent a paternity test, there's no way to, with certainty, know.
03:42:44.780 Okay, so that's an evolutionary psychology reason why, like, it's in our gut why it matters,
03:42:52.280 why promiscuity matters.
03:42:53.300 A promiscuous woman, she's more likely to cheat, she could...
03:42:57.600 It's just innate.
03:43:01.260 I mean, I'm trying to grasp, like...
03:43:04.060 Why?
03:43:04.460 How being a virgin would make it more possible that, like, that child's yours.
03:43:11.040 I mean, that means...
03:43:11.620 If she's a virgin, she's never had sex.
03:43:13.060 No, no, no, I know that, but I'm saying, like, that's a big...
03:43:16.960 I don't even know how to put this, but, you know, that's also if sex is just for childbearing.
03:43:24.500 So, if sex is...
03:43:26.020 If you viewed sex just for childbearing, I could see how you'd want a virgin.
03:43:30.140 Why are men attracted to women with wide hips and big tits?
03:43:34.700 It's an evolutionary thing.
03:43:39.700 Why the wide hips?
03:43:40.980 Why do men find that attractive?
03:43:42.280 To bear children.
03:43:43.620 Okay.
03:43:44.440 So, we find that attractive, but it doesn't necessarily mean that when we...
03:43:51.540 People have sex for recreation.
03:43:53.440 I'm aware of this.
03:43:55.460 But, I'm just trying to understand.
03:43:59.120 I'm trying to understand.
03:44:00.220 I mean, I don't, I don't know how to explain what I'm thinking.
03:44:08.560 It's just, it's a big jump from, like, I want a virgin just because I know I'll be the father of her children.
03:44:14.340 Well, that's one of the reasons.
03:44:15.520 That's why virginity was and has been valued, is because in the past there weren't DNA tests.
03:44:22.200 So, if a woman was sleeping with, like, for...
03:44:24.400 And I think this is something that women have a hard time empathizing with because it can never, ever happen to you biologically.
03:44:32.040 It is one of the biggest L's a guy can take in his life to think you're raising a child that's yours and you find out it's not.
03:44:41.560 Not only are you not raising your son or your daughter, you've just discovered infidelity.
03:44:47.580 That is so brutally crushing for men and it happens.
03:44:53.080 It happens.
03:44:53.820 That woman, like, has something really wrong with her if she's going to lie to a guy about, like, that being his son.
03:44:58.420 A lot.
03:44:59.380 There's a lot of that happening.
03:45:01.140 Well, those women definitely need help because that's not okay.
03:45:03.940 I definitely think that that isn't okay.
03:45:05.200 But I don't think that's every woman.
03:45:07.260 It's not every woman, but it's something to be...
03:45:10.280 And it's not every promiscuous woman is going to lie about the father of her children.
03:45:13.540 No, but it's something that is...
03:45:18.140 I'm trying to think of, like, how I can articulate this.
03:45:22.280 You can intellectualize that a woman who's had a body count, a high body count, you can intellectualize, hey, maybe she's going to be...
03:45:32.980 She could be loyal.
03:45:34.320 You can intellectualize it.
03:45:35.900 But it doesn't undo the gut, the gut, knee-jerk reaction to promiscuity.
03:45:46.720 What's your body count?
03:45:48.500 I don't reveal that.
03:45:49.860 What's your body count?
03:45:51.100 Well, I don't reveal that.
03:45:52.760 Well, I think body count matters.
03:45:54.020 That's why I don't reveal my body count.
03:45:56.060 I mean, I'm very happy with my body count, so...
03:45:59.260 Well, does anyone...
03:46:00.320 Why?
03:46:01.180 I mean, like, I think I have, like, a good body count.
03:46:04.340 I'm not going to say...
03:46:05.120 What is it?
03:46:06.440 Don't say it.
03:46:06.900 Does anyone want to share their body count?
03:46:08.240 You could guess it, but...
03:46:09.740 If I guess it, will you tell me?
03:46:10.980 If you guess it, I'll tell you.
03:46:12.680 I think it's four.
03:46:14.660 Lower.
03:46:16.080 Three.
03:46:17.860 Two.
03:46:19.220 Zero.
03:46:20.720 One.
03:46:21.280 Okay.
03:46:22.940 Congrats, I guess.
03:46:23.700 I mean, cool.
03:46:24.460 But I'm just saying, like, why don't you share yours?
03:46:28.280 Well, I think body count matters.
03:46:29.460 That's why I don't share my body count.
03:46:33.420 So, yeah.
03:46:36.100 Okay.
03:46:37.000 That's a good conversation.
03:46:39.320 Okay.
03:46:40.000 So, would you like more reasons why body count matters?
03:46:46.980 No.
03:46:48.100 Well, I'll give you a few more anyways.
03:46:49.260 Okay.
03:46:49.420 So, and then we're going to finish up with the dating app review.
03:46:53.640 So, they've also done studies on this.
03:47:00.200 So, the higher your body count, the greater likelihood of divorce.
03:47:04.860 So, the more sexual partners you've had, the greater likelihood of divorce, reporting, relationship, dissatisfaction.
03:47:13.180 That's another reason.
03:47:15.020 For men and women?
03:47:16.980 Yeah.
03:47:17.280 I'm just, I just wanted to clarify.
03:47:21.680 I didn't know if it was for just women or just men.
03:47:24.600 It's for, I would say it's for both.
03:47:26.380 Although, I would say this.
03:47:28.100 Well, the stats say it's for both men and women.
03:47:30.040 No.
03:47:30.280 Well, in the stats, it's more pronounced in women.
03:47:32.100 It's more pronounced in women.
03:47:36.820 Interesting.
03:47:37.460 Okay.
03:47:37.680 Let's do the dating app review.
03:47:38.940 Go ahead.
03:47:39.240 Pull it up, Eric.
03:47:41.140 But men are more likely to cheat statistically.
03:47:43.860 No.
03:47:44.200 Actually, women are more likely to cheat.
03:47:45.800 It's 20% men and 13% women.
03:47:47.880 Women are more likely to cheat.
03:47:49.520 On what stat?
03:47:50.840 I don't have that ready for me.
03:47:53.060 I have a stat.
03:47:53.380 20% men and 13% women.
03:47:55.020 I looked it up.
03:47:56.880 Okay.
03:47:57.620 I don't have it in front of me, but I want to get, I want to move on to Tatum's been
03:48:01.640 dying for us to do a dating app review.
03:48:03.200 No, I don't really care.
03:48:03.620 It's just getting boring.
03:48:04.940 This is very repetitive at this point.
03:48:07.200 Okay.
03:48:07.620 Pull it up, Eric.
03:48:10.220 I mean, you guys were the ones asking me about body counts.
03:48:12.880 I think it was just about, like, virginity.
03:48:15.640 That's what I was really worried at questioning was the whole double standard thing, but I don't
03:48:19.440 really care if you want a low body count.
03:48:21.280 I feel like it's like, we can just agree that guys weirdly enough want virgins.
03:48:28.960 Why is it weird, though?
03:48:30.620 Like, I don't understand why you have to shame men for their preferences.
03:48:34.400 I feel like-
03:48:34.840 Women are far pickier than men are.
03:48:36.300 Women have a laundry list of things that they want in a partner.
03:48:40.020 And the few things that men care about, it's almost always met with contempt, shaming.
03:48:47.640 Why is it weird for men to want a woman who's not promiscuous?
03:48:50.920 I don't understand.
03:48:51.160 I don't think women want very out there, outstanding things versus when men want certain things.
03:48:55.500 Women don't want outlandish things.
03:48:57.600 Not honestly.
03:48:57.920 Women are way pickier than men are.
03:48:59.640 What women are you looking at?
03:49:00.980 I mean, there are some women out there, but, like, I feel like maybe you're talking to
03:49:04.320 the wrong group because, like, I'm 19 and I don't really want, like, a top G, 2% guy
03:49:10.900 who's, like, super rich and, like, I don't know what to tell you because, like, that's
03:49:14.980 not what I care for.
03:49:15.940 It's, like, that's very shallow and it's a very shallow mentality and I think it's-
03:49:18.920 What is shallow?
03:49:19.780 Looking for someone only based off their status, their, like, income, what, like, that's such
03:49:25.640 a shallow way to look at it and also, like, only their looks, like, that's just shallow
03:49:30.020 in itself.
03:49:34.380 Isn't that the things that a lot of women go for, though?
03:49:37.660 Well, I was saying I can't speak for all women, but, like, I'm saying I don't go for
03:49:41.800 that and I know my friends don't go for that.
03:49:44.720 Don't go for status?
03:49:46.680 Yeah.
03:49:47.400 Okay.
03:49:49.040 Fair enough.
03:49:50.040 Let's do the, uh, dating app review.
03:49:51.660 Oh.
03:49:52.280 M. Martin super chatted $50.
03:49:54.960 Here are some stats for you.
03:49:57.320 Of all people who test paternity, 32% are not the fathers.
03:50:02.200 It's such an epidemic that France has made paternity testing illegal.
03:50:06.560 It is the single biggest fear in men.
03:50:09.000 Yeah, like, just to add to that really quick, like, it is one of men's biggest fears.
03:50:16.100 It's one of men's biggest fears to raise a kid that's not yours.
03:50:18.620 It is one of women's biggest fears to be murdered by a man.
03:50:23.000 Okay.
03:50:23.860 So, I mean, like, I wish more.
03:50:26.080 I don't see how that's relevant to the body count thing, but.
03:50:29.320 I don't think it's relevant to the body count thing.
03:50:31.100 I'm just saying you can throw these stats out, like, I wish that paternity tests were,
03:50:36.380 like, our biggest.
03:50:38.000 Fear.
03:50:38.520 Fear.
03:50:38.800 Yeah, it's, like, a privilege for that to be your biggest fear.
03:50:42.940 How's that?
03:50:44.520 I don't really follow on that one.
03:50:47.560 I'm just saying that she's, I think what she's trying to say is that, like, women have
03:50:51.460 more things to worry about that actually threaten their life than worrying about whether or not
03:50:56.660 they're raising a child who's not theirs.
03:50:58.640 Whereas men saying, like, you saying, oh, it's one of their biggest fears is raising a
03:51:02.500 child who's not theirs.
03:51:03.420 Otherwise, she's just trying to be, like, well, that's kind of, like, a privilege to
03:51:07.680 have that fear.
03:51:08.900 I mean, paternity fraud is more common than being murdered.
03:51:13.640 Like, in the world or, like, in the United States?
03:51:18.480 Because if you look at the whole world, I wouldn't say that's very true.
03:51:21.760 Paternity fraud is a much more frequent occurrence than, are you talking about, like, a man murdering
03:51:29.420 a woman who is his partner?
03:51:31.940 Or just violence against women?
03:51:35.960 I mean, I'm not sure why we're going to this, but...
03:51:39.260 Well, even if 30% of children are not their...
03:51:42.340 Bad things happen to men, bad things happen to women.
03:51:44.740 We're speaking about a very specific thing.
03:51:46.740 The whole 30% of children are not by the right father or whatever.
03:51:52.780 It's still, like, the promiscuity thing, that that's such a big kick in the gut.
03:51:59.460 Men still cheat more than women.
03:52:02.900 I'm not sure how that's...
03:52:05.040 Oh, okay, because I said that cheating is a concern when it comes to body count.
03:52:08.960 I'm not sure if that's true.
03:52:10.600 Okay, well, I wish...
03:52:12.040 I've seen...
03:52:12.340 Should I get my phone out?
03:52:13.800 I mean, we're not allowed to have our phones.
03:52:15.200 I've seen different stats that say it's a small percentage, but women cheat more than men.
03:52:20.040 I've seen stats on multiple different things.
03:52:22.320 Well, I can tell you...
03:52:23.260 Those two numbers, 20% and 13%.
03:52:25.660 Okay, well, who ends relationships more frequently, men or women?
03:52:30.100 I don't know the stats on that.
03:52:30.880 It's women.
03:52:32.420 80% of divorces are initiated by women.
03:52:35.180 Okay.
03:52:35.740 So, I mean, we can...
03:52:38.980 At least for, like, divorcing and breaking up with them instead of cheating.
03:52:42.020 I mean, like, that means just there's something wrong with their relationship versus, like, cheating is a whole different thing.
03:52:48.200 Okay, I feel like we're, like...
03:52:48.920 Okay, derailing a little bit.
03:52:50.620 Let's do the dating app review.
03:52:52.280 Let's do the soup chats and let's wrap up.
03:52:53.920 Eric, can you pull it up real quick?
03:52:55.700 Tatum's been dying.
03:52:56.700 Next one.
03:52:57.000 No, I don't really care about my dating.
03:53:00.460 Next one.
03:53:01.340 This has all been done.
03:53:03.880 Next one, Eric.
03:53:05.800 Next.
03:53:06.160 Next.
03:53:08.160 Yeah, me too.
03:53:08.980 Next.
03:53:10.080 Next.
03:53:12.040 Next.
03:53:12.520 Okay, she likes sardines.
03:53:13.720 Next, next, next.
03:53:15.500 Go to Tatum.
03:53:17.400 We don't.
03:53:18.020 Oh, skip Jane.
03:53:19.540 Jane left.
03:53:21.340 Do people normally walk out?
03:53:23.760 I think she's just getting tired.
03:53:25.360 Yeah.
03:53:25.940 I get it.
03:53:26.500 Yeah, she's just tired.
03:53:27.680 Usually, like, last till 11.
03:53:29.080 Yeah.
03:53:29.420 Yeah, I get it.
03:53:31.440 Next one.
03:53:32.880 Eric, can you pull it up?
03:53:33.840 Chill.
03:53:36.120 Okay, this app makes me lower my standards.
03:53:38.240 Why does it make you lower your standards?
03:53:39.480 Because I feel like I have really high standards.
03:53:41.560 And then being able to, like, swipe left or right is really easy to just, like...
03:53:47.380 I don't know.
03:53:47.980 Say yes or no.
03:53:49.300 Okay.
03:53:50.020 Wait, but...
03:53:51.900 I mean, you said you had really...
03:53:53.200 Sorry, I'm really tired right now.
03:53:54.180 No, it's okay.
03:53:54.800 You said you had really high standards.
03:53:56.420 But, I mean, we were previously talking about...
03:53:59.180 Well, any case, whatever.
03:54:02.420 Next one.
03:54:04.500 Guys, you swipe yes or no on Tatum.
03:54:06.200 Next one.
03:54:06.580 Okay, that's you ripping a bong.
03:54:09.860 Yeah, that's my Hello Kitty bong.
03:54:11.440 Next.
03:54:12.740 Next.
03:54:15.620 Next.
03:54:18.840 Next.
03:54:21.720 It's pretty generic.
03:54:26.900 Okay, let me get these super chats here.
03:54:29.580 I think they're...
03:54:31.360 What's up?
03:54:31.900 It's all pretty, like...
03:54:33.780 You hit it and quit.
03:54:34.960 Yeah, they're, like, pumping down.
03:54:36.540 Yeah, you can hide that, Eric.
03:54:39.120 Okay.
03:54:40.560 All right.
03:54:41.180 So, we have some super chats here we have to get through.
03:54:44.860 Okay.
03:54:46.160 Sam.
03:54:47.240 I'm willing to defend a woman I know.
03:54:49.740 Mom, sisters, et cetera.
03:54:51.040 But there are women who purposely escalate a situation or make one.
03:54:55.600 Then step back and expect men that they are with boyfriend or potential boyfriend to defend their honor.
03:55:01.040 Thank you, Drive, for the Canadian 20.
03:55:05.400 Hold on.
03:55:06.100 Let's do...
03:55:06.760 That's Australian 20.
03:55:09.020 Thank you, Boots.
03:55:10.440 None are 10s.
03:55:11.440 You bring drama and problems.
03:55:13.140 I imagine hypocrites want the world but won't try at all for it.
03:55:17.340 Okay.
03:55:17.780 Let's see your profile photo.
03:55:19.620 Mr. 10.
03:55:22.900 What?
03:55:24.540 Go for it, Sarah.
03:55:25.420 In relation to...
03:55:26.420 Sarah.
03:55:27.600 Oh, in relationship to Passmore Bros.
03:55:29.940 The split women may not care right now, but it's projected that 45% of women will be unmarried and childish by 2030.
03:55:38.980 Additionally, the most unhappy population in the U.S. are older women with a career.
03:55:43.440 I've heard the opposite.
03:55:44.480 Thank you.
03:55:47.780 Two dual shot for the 20 bucks.
03:55:51.140 This is by far...
03:55:52.740 Devon Jackson super chatted $50.
03:55:54.900 The only reason these account reviews are silly is because good women don't need to be on dating apps in the first place.
03:56:02.520 For it.
03:56:03.220 Thank you, Devon.
03:56:03.880 This is by far the best group you've had.
03:56:09.360 There's hope for the future males.
03:56:11.140 By the way, I've been married for 21 years.
03:56:14.080 Thank you, Derek.
03:56:17.380 Difference between a 304 and a prostitute is a price tag.
03:56:20.940 Nobody will pick us a used chewing gum from the street and be happy with it and keep it.
03:56:26.500 Thank you for the Romanian hundred reaper.
03:56:32.540 I don't want a child, but neither do I want a girl that half the city has had.
03:56:36.980 The more you've been around, the more scars you carry.
03:56:39.100 Yeah, I think he's just saying that as you've had more dating experience, you tend to get more baggage.
03:56:51.460 Like you have more trauma baggage and stuff, so it kind of ties in with more partners.
03:56:58.040 Go ahead, Sam.
03:56:58.900 Typically, when a woman has a preference, all men have to accept it or they are viewed in a negative way.
03:57:03.900 But yet, when a man has a preference, there's tons of reasons as to why they shouldn't.
03:57:09.200 Isn't that a double standard going to be addressed?
03:57:13.320 Yeah.
03:57:13.860 I haven't shamed any of you guys for your guys' preferences or standards.
03:57:17.580 It's only men that are shamed for their preferences.
03:57:20.100 I didn't shame you for your preference or your standards.
03:57:22.180 I totally agree with that.
03:57:22.820 Well, you objected to them.
03:57:24.460 I objected to them.
03:57:25.400 I think, well, she certainly objected to them.
03:57:27.580 I objected to the double standard part of it, but I didn't object to you saying you want a low body count.
03:57:32.040 Like, if you want a low body count, as you should, and I could want a low body count, too.
03:57:36.260 And I'm not going to objectify if a guy's like, hey, look, I'm looking for a girl with a low body count.
03:57:40.660 The thing that I just didn't get was why you're searching for that if you yourself don't have it.
03:57:47.420 Well, we've already had that discussion.
03:57:49.300 I don't think that'll be productive.
03:57:50.760 But, yeah, I mean, he does raise a good point that, I believe it's this one, like, it just,
03:57:56.880 why is it that men are not allowed to have preferences, standards, and boundaries?
03:58:02.040 Like, why is it almost always met with some sort of shaming language?
03:58:10.400 Hello?
03:58:11.160 I mean, I don't think, like, preferences when it's like, I like blondes.
03:58:15.920 I want a girl who is funny.
03:58:18.380 I don't, I've never shamed someone for that.
03:58:20.260 It's, there's just a few things that don't sit right.
03:58:22.940 But I think also guys get fed up with girls that say they want tall guys.
03:58:26.260 So it goes two ways.
03:58:27.880 Well, the difference is, is that men, men may be discontent, especially short men may be discontent that women want tall men.
03:58:38.640 However, men acknowledge that it exists.
03:58:41.700 We, we accept reality.
03:58:44.200 Men, we accept that we have to level up.
03:58:46.620 We accept that we have to become confident.
03:58:48.640 We have to do, become all these things to become attractive to women.
03:58:52.820 That's the same thing.
03:58:53.440 But when, when men tell women, here are the ways, here are, here's what we find attractive.
03:58:58.340 Here's how you ought to level up or become, oh, shaming.
03:59:03.860 It's always met with like some sort of contempt.
03:59:08.420 It's, it's always like, accept us as we are.
03:59:11.060 Whereas men, we have to level up.
03:59:13.580 We, we accept reality.
03:59:16.520 We realize women want men who are confident.
03:59:18.860 We want men who are, imagine if I was like, women are ridiculous for wanting men who are confident.
03:59:23.800 You're stupid for wanting men who are confident.
03:59:26.100 You're stooping for, stupid for wanting funny guys.
03:59:28.840 Why would you care about that?
03:59:30.260 You want a clown?
03:59:31.060 You want like, that, that's how ridiculous it is.
03:59:34.540 Here's the, I mean, the big ridiculous one, you use the, the P word there.
03:59:38.360 That would be like me saying, that would be like me saying that because women are attracted
03:59:45.620 to men who are tall, it's because you have some infest, or sorry, you have some incestuous
03:59:50.740 fetishization of your father's because when you were young, you wanted a guy who was tall
03:59:56.200 or sorry, you, you'd look up to your dad and you're like, oh, I'm idolizing my dad.
04:00:02.080 Do you see how crazy that sounds?
04:00:03.560 That, that's like basically the argument I could make for women who want tall men.
04:00:06.860 Women who want tall men are incestuous because they're trying to relive their childhood by
04:00:12.800 finding a father figure.
04:00:14.600 Well, I mean, like naturally, like we are, I mean, if you like a little boy's first crushes
04:00:18.980 his mom, like naturally you like, you, like, I'm not saying like, I think my dad's attractive
04:00:25.100 in that sense, but I'm saying like, I hear that a lot, that little boys first, like when
04:00:29.040 they think of a woman, they look for their mom.
04:00:32.000 That is something I've heard so many times.
04:00:34.140 But it's, it would be a woman wanting a tall guy would be me, like me saying you're incestuous
04:00:40.040 and predatory for seeking out tall men to satisfy your perverse incestuous fantasy.
04:00:46.960 Why can't women just want tall guys?
04:00:49.380 Why can't women or why can't men want women who are not promiscuous or who have a low body
04:00:55.140 count?
04:00:55.520 You guys were, the big thing was apparently men who want women who shave their legs and their
04:01:02.160 armpits or their pubic hair.
04:01:03.280 Like that is somehow like P word.
04:01:06.880 Like I, that's crazy.
04:01:09.360 It could just be like a grooming thing.
04:01:11.640 I know.
04:01:12.060 Yeah.
04:01:12.300 Obviously they could just be like a hygienic thing.
04:01:14.480 Like you want someone to be pretty.
04:01:16.080 Sorry.
04:01:16.240 I'm about to bite this fucking mic right now.
04:01:18.240 Why?
04:01:19.240 I'm really angsty.
04:01:21.060 Because of the conversation?
04:01:22.440 No, I'm just so bored right now.
04:01:24.560 And then engage in the conversation.
04:01:26.560 I mean, you know, it's just like 11.
04:01:28.440 I'm like, I've been in this room for five hours.
04:01:31.120 Okay.
04:01:32.540 Yeah.
04:01:34.060 Well, I'm wondering how long this is going to go.
04:01:35.840 Well, I'm trying to wrap up here.
04:01:37.120 We're going to get through the super chats, but okay.
04:01:40.200 You get to hang tight for 10 minutes, 10, 15 minutes.
04:01:47.060 Okay.
04:01:49.060 Did you want to continue?
04:01:50.260 No, I was just saying like, I don't really have a problem with guys saying preferences.
04:01:54.520 That's not really an issue.
04:01:56.760 Okay.
04:01:59.860 But you guys earlier on said a guy who wants a woman who shaves her body hair is like P word.
04:02:06.700 What I'm saying, when a guy wants a woman, not just like their body hairs, like obviously
04:02:10.400 like your genitals are kind of different.
04:02:13.140 But like when it comes to like you wanting a girl who's completely hairless, it's like
04:02:17.860 a weird, like that's like a weird thing.
04:02:20.180 Like we're like naturally, like if we go back to what you were saying, when you're
04:02:24.120 like, oh, um, men are like biologically or prehistorically like wanting that, like we're
04:02:30.140 back then we, we had way more hair than we do now.
04:02:32.900 So like why now do you want a girl who's completely like no hair?
04:02:37.780 Then you have to think back at it where they, when do you see people who have no hair?
04:02:42.080 Kids.
04:02:42.960 Kids are the ones who have like no body hair.
04:02:44.640 I mean, that's, that's a reach.
04:02:45.920 It's, it's not really a reach.
04:02:47.420 There's lots of research done on that about how that's a very, there are plenty of practical
04:02:52.400 reasons for why men want women who like don't have leg hair, don't have armpit hair, don't
04:02:58.160 like shave down their, like for comfort reasons, for hygienic reasons, they don't want girls
04:03:02.600 with arm hair or like they don't want girls with like a hair on their spot of the body.
04:03:07.280 And I like, and that happens.
04:03:08.880 Like there's guys out there who want that.
04:03:10.200 And there's women that don't like guys with back hair.
04:03:12.180 I think what he's saying is that most guys with a good head on their shoulders, they're
04:03:19.180 not going to be out in public and see a kid or a child and be like, I want my girl to
04:03:22.920 look like that.
04:03:23.620 Like no guy is thinking that it's just their personal preference for hygiene.
04:03:28.000 But I see where you're coming from.
04:03:29.780 But I also know what he's saying where it's like no guy in their right mind is going to
04:03:33.740 see a kid and be like, that's my ideal girlfriend.
04:03:36.460 Like, well, yeah, obviously not.
04:03:37.920 I think it's a very subconscious like thing that you don't even realize you're doing.
04:03:42.180 That's why I feel like...
04:03:44.180 No, it's not subconsciously P word for, for men who want women.
04:03:49.960 Like some men, like you, it's been kind of like engraved into our society.
04:03:54.140 It's not like something that you're like, oh, I know I'm searching for someone who looks
04:03:57.140 like a child, but it's like what the standards have built or like what is wanted.
04:04:01.440 A lot of times it can be like childlike features, you know, like little dainty things, little
04:04:06.820 girly things that like, it's like, then that's kind of like near childlike things.
04:04:10.860 It's a little interesting.
04:04:12.120 Like this schoolgirl trope.
04:04:13.500 Like there's like certain like little things that do have to go down with like pedophilia.
04:04:19.860 Bro, it's so, it's so ridiculous to say that men who prefer their women, who groom themselves,
04:04:26.500 who don't have like, who shave their leg hair.
04:04:29.440 That's so just absurd.
04:04:32.000 Obviously it's not like all men are like thinking like that.
04:04:34.060 I'm just saying there's certain things that you don't even realize that lead back to that.
04:04:39.400 No, it, men who, it's not even a subconscious thing.
04:04:43.240 It's not subconscious for, for a guy to prefer a woman who grooms herself and shaves her legs.
04:04:49.200 Like I, I don't.
04:04:50.080 Well, it's kind of like a girl saying that she's into a guy who's super skinny and looks like he's on his deathbed
04:04:58.340 is like saying she's into like fucking dead people.
04:05:01.260 Like that's like along the lines of you guys trying to say that like, no, this is like a long,
04:05:06.500 if you're saying that a guy who's into girls with no body hair, like nothing, it's pedophilia,
04:05:14.900 the P word, I'm not going to say that.
04:05:16.360 I'm not saying that's like outlandish, straight pedophilia.
04:05:18.660 I'm just saying like when there's certain little things that we have been okay with
04:05:23.220 that you can look back at and be like, hmm, where did we get that whole idea of that's attractive,
04:05:28.900 that that's what we want?
04:05:30.280 Where does that stem from?
04:05:31.560 Where does that start?
04:05:31.840 It's always been the media.
04:05:32.780 It's been the media.
04:05:33.700 Yes, and the media has pushed this like underage type thing being very sexualized and being like.
04:05:40.120 What?
04:05:41.060 I don't, I'm, what?
04:05:42.020 No, I'm saying, I'm saying like models, like models, like modeling things on the internet or like.
04:05:48.340 Hold on, hold on, hold on.
04:05:49.360 I just got interrupted.
04:05:50.260 Okay.
04:05:50.840 So you think that men who want women who shave their legs or their pubic area or their underarms
04:05:57.060 is a either subconscious or conscious pedophilic.
04:06:01.820 They're stuck on the whole shaving their hair thing because I don't think it's like, I'm
04:06:05.420 just saying that that's one thing that goes along with many other things that adds to
04:06:10.080 the fact that there is like underlining pedophilia within like what people romanticize.
04:06:16.360 I'm not saying like you are a pedophile.
04:06:18.280 You are going to go look for a child.
04:06:19.660 I'm saying when you look back at it, like when it's underlining, it's not something that
04:06:24.240 you obviously know you're doing.
04:06:25.820 You don't.
04:06:26.460 It's, I want to just open it up to some of the other girls on the panel.
04:06:29.780 So you were shaking your head in agreement that it is, there's undertones of pedophilia
04:06:36.780 if a guy prefers women who shave.
04:06:40.200 No, I was, I was lying to her.
04:06:42.560 I think that's an aspect of it, but you're stuck on just that.
04:06:46.720 There's a whole.
04:06:47.220 Can you tilt your mic down towards you like that?
04:06:50.680 There's a whole other, other examples she's brought up.
04:06:55.380 That's just part of it of men who want women to be hairless, not just their genitals and
04:07:00.860 their legs, but like completely hairless like a doll or like have like these childlike pout
04:07:07.140 features and like big eyes that look up like the doe eye look.
04:07:10.200 That is like a childlike look.
04:07:12.740 Okay.
04:07:12.880 But we're talking about hair.
04:07:14.020 You're bringing in these other factors.
04:07:15.840 You're just thinking about the hair.
04:07:17.600 That was one example she gave.
04:07:18.960 That was precisely what we were talking about.
04:07:21.140 So I, to you, I would ask, does, do you think it's wrong for a guy to want a girl who
04:07:28.080 shaves like, or who doesn't have hair on her legs or like shaves her legs?
04:07:33.440 I don't know why you're sticking on.
04:07:35.020 You're getting stuck on just this one aspect she was talking about.
04:07:36.900 That's not the only thing you're saying.
04:07:37.800 That's like not, I'm not saying that's wrong.
04:07:39.360 Make it to say, look like that's what we're saying.
04:07:41.360 Let's make that the confines.
04:07:42.800 Let's make that the confines of the conversation because I do want to like try to arrive.
04:07:47.720 You, we can have conversations about those other things, time permitting, but I'll try
04:07:51.400 to avoid that.
04:07:52.760 Specifically, I'm asking specifically when it comes to body hair, a man who prefers women,
04:07:58.000 a woman with less body hair, say armpits, pubic area, legs, maybe he prefers a woman who
04:08:05.600 shaves, are you asserting that men who have that preference are in some way, are you pathologizing
04:08:13.120 it to the point where it's pedophilic?
04:08:16.260 I'm not saying that one thing makes you a pedophile.
04:08:20.340 But okay.
04:08:21.480 I'm narrowing the conversation to just that one thing because.
04:08:24.540 It's a whole, it's a whole, all of these preferences go into that one thing.
04:08:29.660 Stay, stay on course.
04:08:30.780 I'm talking about the hair thing specifically.
04:08:33.440 We can go all over the place here.
04:08:35.520 I'm speaking about one thing and just answer the question.
04:08:38.780 Why don't you want to answer the question?
04:08:40.120 Wait, what was the question?
04:08:41.480 Okay.
04:08:41.780 If a guy wants a girl who doesn't shave her legs, or sorry, excuse me, if a guy wants
04:08:47.660 a girl who shaves her legs, shaves her pubic area, armpits, do you think that there are
04:08:52.860 pedophilic undertones?
04:08:55.340 No, because what I was saying is I don't think that's wrong.
04:08:57.620 I was saying I think it's wrong when a guy wants a completely hairless girl where it's
04:09:01.480 like no hair on their arms.
04:09:03.880 We're shifting the goalposts here.
04:09:05.440 We're shifting the goalposts.
04:09:06.120 Most girls, like, for example, me, I don't know if this is TMI to put out there, I shave
04:09:11.800 everything and that's my personal hygienic preference.
04:09:14.840 And then if I find a guy who likes that of me, I feel like, I mean, I did it for me.
04:09:22.440 But do you think it's unhygienic that men don't shave?
04:09:26.740 I mean, I don't, I think it's all up to their preference.
04:09:29.320 I would prefer that a guy shaved and kept up with himself.
04:09:33.760 Shaved his legs and armpits and everything?
04:09:35.240 There are plenty of women that, like, are turned off by guys with, like, back hair.
04:09:40.880 Like, women have hair preferences, too.
04:09:44.180 But this, like, overarching thing that's pushed on to women of you need to shave your legs,
04:09:50.780 armpits, and genitals.
04:09:53.240 Men shave down there, too, but go ahead.
04:09:55.120 They don't shave everything.
04:09:56.880 Sure, it's different.
04:09:58.140 I mean, again, what we were saying is not that if you shave your, if a guy likes that you shave your legs, he's a pedophile.
04:10:06.040 We're saying it's part of an entirely overarching, underlying view of women as, like, wanting something that's young and supple and virgin.
04:10:17.900 That doesn't make you a pedophile for wanting a woman who is young and who's a virgin.
04:10:24.320 That does not make you a pedo.
04:10:26.860 That's patently absurd.
04:10:29.140 It's, so, okay, yeah, sure.
04:10:32.720 You want a girl who's young and who's, like, a virgin.
04:10:35.380 It doesn't make you a pedophile.
04:10:36.740 But I'm saying when you put all the other things that go with that, with what, usually what they want, it kind of does.
04:10:42.040 When you put everything else into the circle.
04:10:43.860 No, it doesn't.
04:10:45.440 This is absurd.
04:10:47.440 I mean, I don't know why you find that so hard to believe.
04:10:49.420 There's so many pedophiles.
04:10:50.580 I mean, how long has it been that, like, 14-year-old girls, I mean, a long time ago, 14-year-old girls were getting married off to, like, 30-year-old men.
04:11:00.100 And right, and now you would say that's pedophilia.
04:11:03.760 Yes, I would.
04:11:05.180 But we're not talking about that.
04:11:09.500 That is, okay, a 30-year-old marrying a 14-year-old in the United States, that is broadly frowned upon by both men and women.
04:11:19.340 That is socially unacceptable.
04:11:22.540 That is frowned upon in society.
04:11:24.520 I don't know why we're talking about that.
04:11:26.420 That's wholly irrelevant to the conversation.
04:11:29.860 I'm trying to get an answer out of you guys.
04:11:31.740 If you think a guy, you kind of kind of want to keep shifting the goalposts.
04:11:37.360 I just want to get to the crux of it.
04:11:39.340 I answered it.
04:11:40.720 I said, no, I don't think that's wrong.
04:11:42.560 I said, if a guy just wants.
04:11:43.380 But then why are we trying to, like, lump it in with, well, it could be a factor with other things.
04:11:49.720 Because I brought up a whole different thing.
04:11:52.680 Like, I brought up the whole part about being completely hairless, not about wanting hygienic, like, shaves.
04:11:58.620 Okay, so you think it's a component to it.
04:12:01.460 Do you shave your legs?
04:12:02.780 Yes.
04:12:03.580 Do you shave your armpits?
04:12:04.600 Yes.
04:12:05.100 Do you shave your legs?
04:12:06.080 Mm-hmm.
04:12:06.460 Do you shave your armpits?
04:12:08.420 I go through times, yes.
04:12:10.460 What about you?
04:12:11.380 Mm-hmm.
04:12:11.760 Okay, I don't know if you agree with them.
04:12:13.300 You've been kind of staying out of it.
04:12:14.640 So, if you believe what you believe, then you are, by doing the actions you're taking, you are indulging, supposedly, you are indulging men in their supposed pedophilic fantasies.
04:12:27.080 No, I'm not, because I'm not shaving my arms and shaving my stomach and my back, trying to, like, feed into those men.
04:12:33.500 I'm shaving what I think would be better for me to, like, smell better and look better.
04:12:38.260 All right, let's get this next Super Chat.
04:12:40.360 Go ahead, Sam.
04:12:41.140 Did we do this one?
04:12:42.520 Yeah.
04:12:43.600 Yep.
04:12:44.280 Go ahead.
04:12:45.500 Ladies, men are worried that a woman who has had many partners is broken.
04:12:49.260 They will have no trouble bouncing the moment.
04:12:52.780 They are unhappy, married for five years, two kids, tough luck.
04:12:56.280 I'm unhappy.
04:12:57.220 Maybe the next guy will be better.
04:12:59.000 Cyclone Steve, thank you for the Super Chat.
04:13:01.400 Yeah, I mean, it's definitely, the more partners you have, the greater likelihood that you're going to have some baggage or some sort of past trauma.
04:13:08.740 Anyways, go for it.
04:13:11.140 Double standards, this and that.
04:13:13.260 Y'all sound like children.
04:13:14.500 Life is not fair.
04:13:15.780 Millions starve while you complain about your mascara.
04:13:18.400 Ninety percent of people, police killings are men.
04:13:21.520 Ain't that a double standard?
04:13:22.840 Want equality there?
04:13:23.840 Okay.
04:13:27.160 I agree with you on the.
04:13:29.300 Yeah.
04:13:29.840 I mean, there's, there's all kinds of double standards.
04:13:32.400 There's some double standards that benefit men and there's double standards that benefit women.
04:13:36.480 Women dictate the sex market and men adapt.
04:13:41.920 Prior to the 60s, it was way more formal, but when women gave that up, social media and dating apps only more show how stark the difference is.
04:13:51.600 Okay.
04:13:53.380 Okay.
04:13:53.980 Yeah.
04:13:55.680 This one came through.
04:13:56.780 Thank you, Davon.
04:13:58.720 Lawrence.
04:13:59.320 Thank you, man.
04:13:59.780 A man has to level up just to have a chance with an average woman.
04:14:03.120 But average or below average woman can get with an exceptional man just by existing.
04:14:08.360 Yeah.
04:14:08.600 I think it's way easier for girls to get with guys.
04:14:11.120 Yeah.
04:14:11.660 I mean, most men are invisible to most women.
04:14:13.680 And most women can sleep with most men.
04:14:16.820 Most men cannot sleep with most women.
04:14:20.960 And, yeah.
04:14:22.700 There's a saying, women sleep with who they want.
04:14:25.020 Men sleep with who they can.
04:14:26.060 I think this one came through, right?
04:14:33.040 Yeah, it did.
04:14:34.680 Yeah.
04:14:35.040 Oh, well.
04:14:35.680 We saw that one, too.
04:14:36.760 Yeah.
04:14:36.920 It came through as a TTS.
04:14:37.860 Someone else wrote this.
04:14:38.920 France made paternity tests illegal because they said it would be destructive to society.
04:14:44.000 Oh.
04:14:44.680 Okay.
04:14:47.100 Yeah.
04:14:47.840 We have Brandon here.
04:14:48.960 Thank you, Brandon.
04:14:50.420 We read this one.
04:14:51.700 We did?
04:14:52.040 I think so.
04:14:54.180 It's like all the same stuff.
04:14:55.540 Oh, well, men are supposed to accept women's standards and what they want out of men.
04:15:00.360 Tall status, income, et cetera.
04:15:02.500 But at the same time, women absolutely won't accept that men want low body count.
04:15:06.220 Women in loyalty, just ridiculous.
04:15:11.040 Brandon, thank you, man.
04:15:12.120 Appreciate it.
04:15:13.240 Yo, Martin, thank you for that.
04:15:14.520 Davon, thank you for that.
04:15:16.200 Dragon, Fly, Noisy, thank you for the 28 Super Chat.
04:15:19.040 I think some of apps would have been better if you had nothing but you outdoors or with whatever
04:15:25.080 pet you had.
04:15:25.880 The bathroom one says, I might not marry you, but fun times.
04:15:29.760 Okay.
04:15:30.200 Thanks for the advice.
04:15:31.820 Thank you.
04:15:32.400 Imagine being on a date with this chick in three hours and she's like, damn, I'm about
04:15:36.960 to bite this fork.
04:15:37.720 I'm so angsty.
04:15:39.140 That is actually very funny.
04:15:40.460 I'm about to bite this fork.
04:15:42.680 I'm so angsty.
04:15:44.560 Okay.
04:15:47.620 Thank you, Davon.
04:15:48.960 The world isn't fair.
04:15:50.180 It's full of double standards.
04:15:51.160 Men understand this and accept it.
04:15:53.260 Women don't accept that and live in a fantasy world in their head.
04:15:57.420 Not engaging is why y'all single on Valentine's Day on the podcast.
04:16:00.320 Oh, we didn't talk about Valentine's Day.
04:16:01.960 That's right.
04:16:04.000 That's right.
04:16:05.280 Okay.
04:16:05.640 Davon Jackson, $20 Super Chat.
04:16:07.260 Thank you, man.
04:16:07.720 Appreciate it.
04:16:09.700 Yes.
04:16:10.220 The back of every man's brain is like, yeah, the huge, chitty, fat ass, hairless woman
04:16:14.180 spreading her cheeks remind me of a child.
04:16:16.560 I wouldn't say all men like that, though.
04:16:18.280 Well, sure, but, and also I would say, like, not, like, if a girl has a little bit of arm
04:16:26.880 hair, like, for most men, that's not a deal breaker.
04:16:29.920 And I think for those men, they're not the issue.
04:16:32.780 Okay.
04:16:36.440 Davon, I think this is the last.
04:16:37.840 Because I don't want to rug burn on my chest.
04:16:40.220 Oh, okay.
04:16:41.040 During.
04:16:41.620 Yeah, during.
04:16:42.920 Yeah.
04:16:43.400 Yep.
04:16:44.340 Davon, thank you, man.
04:16:45.320 Yeah, I mean, the leg thing, it's just, like, razor burn, comfort, you know, hygiene, all
04:16:51.500 that thing.
04:16:51.980 It's just a preference.
04:16:53.160 Women have a preference for it, too.
04:16:54.420 Women, a lot of women prefer a guy who grooms down there.
04:16:57.840 So, it's all preferences, guys.
04:16:59.660 It's all preferences.
04:17:00.560 Men can have preferences.
04:17:01.740 Women can have preferences.
04:17:03.940 But it seems to be the case that men are not allowed to have preferences.
04:17:07.480 Okay, so, before I wrap up, and before Tatum murders me.
04:17:15.320 Do you want to murder me, Tatum?
04:17:17.160 A little.
04:17:17.800 A little bit?
04:17:18.540 Are you violent?
04:17:19.520 Have you ever slashed a dude's tires?
04:17:21.960 No.
04:17:22.740 You'll be the first.
04:17:23.800 I'll be the first?
04:17:24.360 Yeah.
04:17:25.180 I feel like we'd have to date for that to happen, but I suspect Tatum hates my guts.
04:17:31.700 Okay, because I've disagreed with you guys during the show.
04:17:34.980 Okay, so, do you guys have any final thoughts before we wrap?
04:17:38.320 I do want to open it up to you.
04:17:39.620 If you do have a final thought, up to you guys.
04:17:42.980 No, I think the discussion we had was pretty good.
04:17:45.660 It was sufficient.
04:17:46.860 Yeah.
04:17:47.400 It was a sufficiently long condo.
04:17:49.120 Yeah, it was.
04:17:49.620 Well, I do appreciate your guys' patience.
04:17:51.200 I think we should leave it at the table.
04:17:51.900 We did.
04:17:52.900 What's that?
04:17:53.440 We should leave it at the table.
04:17:54.580 Well, yeah, of course.
04:17:55.280 I mean, look, I've invited you on to the podcast to have a debate, have a conversation about dating
04:18:02.220 and relationships.
04:18:03.380 Men and women are bound to disagree on things.
04:18:05.220 And, yeah, so, I mean, I think it's good to be able to have conversations like this because
04:18:09.980 I, perhaps I'm wrong, but I don't know if you've had conversations like this with any
04:18:14.620 of your male friends.
04:18:16.400 Maybe you have.
04:18:17.180 I don't know.
04:18:17.640 But, well, the other thing I would say is that most men are not, like men you're trying
04:18:22.540 to date are probably not going to be honest with you.
04:18:26.160 And a lot of your male friends are not going to be honest with you about what they want.
04:18:29.420 Well, especially the men that want to sleep with you.
04:18:31.440 They're certainly not going to be honest with you because men will say, will lie.
04:18:35.680 I'm sure you guys agree with this one.
04:18:37.500 Perhaps we can find some common ground here at the end.
04:18:39.780 Men will lie in an effort.
04:18:41.980 They will placate you in an effort to try to get into your pants.
04:18:46.080 And so, yeah, men are not going to be honest.
04:18:49.900 They're going to be like, babe, I don't care.
04:18:51.120 You can be promiscuous.
04:18:53.100 No big deal.
04:18:53.660 If you're sleeping with three other guys while you're talking to me, no worries.
04:18:57.440 Actually, some guys might object to that one.
04:19:00.300 But, yeah, a lot of men can't be honest with women.
04:19:03.640 A lot of men won't be honest with women because at least with the social climate as it is,
04:19:09.500 you know, if you give any sort of pushback to the narrative, oh, it's slut shaming.
04:19:14.940 It's this.
04:19:15.560 It's that.
04:19:16.100 When I think it's just ultimately preferences.
04:19:18.100 Did you guys have any final thoughts before we?
04:19:21.560 I'm sad we didn't talk about Valentine's Day.
04:19:24.380 I am a little bummed.
04:19:26.080 I mean, if you guys want, we can give it five minutes.
04:19:28.280 My quick take, I think we discussed it a little bit earlier.
04:19:33.060 I think it's a made-up holiday by Hallmark to sell cards and chocolates to people that
04:19:38.320 don't need it.
04:19:39.280 Yeah.
04:19:40.720 Liv, do you have any final questions?
04:19:46.660 Okay.
04:19:47.840 I actually have something for Tatum.
04:19:50.080 Yeah, what's up?
04:19:50.740 Are you ready?
04:19:51.860 Hit me.
04:19:52.000 I'm going to pull you back into this conversation.
04:19:55.680 Okay.
04:19:56.120 I'm pulling you back in.
04:19:57.040 I'm sorry I disappeared for a while.
04:19:58.580 I was deeply hurt.
04:20:00.280 Okay, so it is Valentine's Day and you all are very, well, you have a boyfriend.
04:20:05.360 The other two are gone.
04:20:06.740 But you're all very attractive women.
04:20:08.640 So why are you guys single?
04:20:11.060 Why are you single?
04:20:12.140 I don't know.
04:20:12.720 I'm trying to work on it.
04:20:14.020 Okay.
04:20:15.260 I'm like kind of talking to someone, but.
04:20:17.720 Kind of?
04:20:18.500 Yeah.
04:20:18.820 Talking to somebody?
04:20:19.440 I'm talking.
04:20:19.840 Your friend smiled here, so I think it's a bit more than talking.
04:20:21.780 Yeah, it's okay.
04:20:22.580 Well, we are talking, but I don't know.
04:20:24.380 I just like.
04:20:25.240 Is this your one?
04:20:26.760 No, my one's my ex.
04:20:28.320 Okay.
04:20:29.080 So.
04:20:29.400 Okay.
04:20:30.040 But.
04:20:30.460 Talking stages, always fun.
04:20:32.260 They're really not.
04:20:33.180 That's why it's kind of hard.
04:20:34.780 They're so not fun.
04:20:36.080 And it's just like.
04:20:38.200 Yo, George, thank you for the membership, man.
04:20:39.880 And so why are you single?
04:20:45.260 I think I go in between wanting a relationship and wanting to really just focus on a career.
04:20:51.160 So I find that I get really distracted when I'm like talking to a boy.
04:20:57.560 I mean, that doesn't mean that.
04:21:00.760 Also, the last person I was talking to kind of, you know, gave me heartache.
04:21:06.720 So.
04:21:06.980 Hard dick?
04:21:07.960 Hard dick.
04:21:08.460 Oh, sorry.
04:21:09.280 I totally.
04:21:09.940 I'm sorry.
04:21:10.440 I misheard that.
04:21:11.980 I wouldn't imagine that you would object to hard dick.
04:21:16.720 So, I mean.
04:21:17.680 No, that was fine.
04:21:18.840 As opposed.
04:21:19.400 That part was fine.
04:21:20.440 As opposed to.
04:21:21.020 Oh, oh.
04:21:21.920 John Bell superchatted $49.99.
04:21:25.840 Thank you.
04:21:26.160 A man being nervous about a woman with a high body count is the same as a woman being nervous
04:21:31.520 about getting pregnant by a guy that dropped out of high school that's broke with no job or future prospects.
04:21:38.920 You can be optimistic, but it's a big ask.
04:21:41.880 Yo, John Bell.
04:21:42.820 Thank you for the $50 soup chat.
04:21:44.800 Really appreciate the patronage.
04:21:47.720 So, Tatum, why?
04:21:49.360 What's going on?
04:21:50.400 Three weeks maximum?
04:21:52.860 What's up?
04:21:53.360 I feel like I've never, like, I've got, like, I didn't even see that.
04:22:02.040 I have really high standards.
04:22:04.780 Not really high, but I don't lower them and I'm not, like, going to settle for anyone.
04:22:10.640 So, I feel like I've never really been in, like, a rush to, like, pick someone out of my options.
04:22:18.080 I feel like I'd, like, wait for someone that I'd really want to date.
04:22:21.260 What are your high standards?
04:22:23.480 Um, I feel like I go for looks a lot.
04:22:31.240 Like, sure.
04:22:32.240 That's, like, the first thing I feel like I look at, which might sound shallow, but, like, I feel like that's the first thing you look at when you're, like, meeting someone.
04:22:39.540 Well, I mean, you're 18, right?
04:22:41.680 Yeah.
04:22:41.960 I mean, I would say most people, when they're young, when you're young, you want a guy to do bong rips with, um, I do.
04:22:53.280 I mean, when you're young, you are going to more so prioritize someone's physical appearance because, I mean, you don't, like, someone's income doesn't really become a factor until you get a bit older or someone's status.
04:23:05.540 I mean, so, um, okay, so you have really high standards, so looks-wise, what's your type?
04:23:13.500 Um, long hair.
04:23:16.460 Long hair?
04:23:17.280 Yeah.
04:23:17.740 Women.
04:23:19.260 I'm talking about guys, yeah.
04:23:21.500 Yeah.
04:23:22.500 Um, not long hair, but, like, longer hair.
04:23:26.420 Longish hair, okay.
04:23:28.140 Like flowy.
04:23:28.960 Flowy.
04:23:29.560 Flow.
04:23:30.180 Like Timothy.
04:23:31.080 Like Timothy.
04:23:32.240 Okay.
04:23:32.540 So, would it be, it wouldn't be a deal breaker, though, for you to have a guy, like, for a guy with short hair?
04:23:38.120 No.
04:23:38.740 Okay.
04:23:39.000 I really liked buzzed hair, too.
04:23:40.500 Buzz hair, okay.
04:23:41.620 But, oh, oh.
04:23:42.740 Our kingdom 300 donated $50.
04:23:45.560 Thank you.
04:23:45.940 Sam, hit me up if you need a date for next Valentine's Day.
04:23:49.340 Hard.
04:23:50.240 Unrealistic, I know, but hey.
04:23:51.980 Oh, so sweet.
04:23:52.460 Sam, do you accept his proposal?
04:23:56.180 For next year.
04:23:57.140 Yeah.
04:23:57.800 Um, I'll let you know when next year rolls around.
04:23:59.820 All right, 2024, get in touch with Sam.
04:24:02.000 Yes.
04:24:03.000 Okay, what else besides the flow?
04:24:06.160 Um.
04:24:10.200 Good style?
04:24:11.060 Good style, yeah.
04:24:12.140 Good style.
04:24:12.920 Yeah.
04:24:13.160 Okay.
04:24:13.800 Yeah.
04:24:14.220 I don't like that, like, LA boy look where they wear, like, the flat caps and stuff.
04:24:18.800 Like, I stay away from that.
04:24:21.140 Okay.
04:24:21.940 Um.
04:24:22.600 How tall?
04:24:24.040 Do you like tall guys?
04:24:25.220 Yeah, I do.
04:24:26.740 Okay.
04:24:27.040 But, like, I guess someone taller than me, yeah.
04:24:32.460 Okay.
04:24:33.000 Yeah.
04:24:33.980 That doesn't seem.
04:24:34.760 Five, six.
04:24:36.000 When it comes to, like, your physical type, is that, that's more so where you're, like,
04:24:39.840 have high standards?
04:24:41.360 Yeah.
04:24:42.540 Yeah.
04:24:43.000 That's nasty.
04:24:44.520 Yeah.
04:24:45.720 Okay.
04:24:46.000 And I also feel like I've always been, like, focused on, like, my friends and family and
04:24:51.440 myself.
04:24:52.220 And I'm not, like, that's something I haven't really, like, been on the search for necessarily.
04:24:58.560 What?
04:24:59.720 Nothing.
04:25:00.000 Like, I feel like if it comes, it comes.
04:25:04.000 Have you ever been in love?
04:25:05.540 No.
04:25:06.720 I wish that.
04:25:06.860 Have you ever been in love?
04:25:07.880 Mm-hmm.
04:25:08.460 Mm-mm.
04:25:08.960 No?
04:25:09.420 You, you wish?
04:25:10.640 Well, I'm, like, excited for when it comes.
04:25:13.760 For when it comes?
04:25:14.560 Because I feel like I, I'm a really big feeler.
04:25:18.480 Mm-hmm.
04:25:18.840 And I feel like.
04:25:20.320 A big feeler?
04:25:21.320 Yeah.
04:25:21.720 Okay.
04:25:21.940 I feel like I have a lot of emotions.
04:25:23.680 Oh.
04:25:24.560 Okay.
04:25:24.960 Mm-hmm.
04:25:25.220 All right.
04:25:26.920 Uh, Liv?
04:25:29.400 Mm-hmm.
04:25:29.760 Okay.
04:25:30.360 So, let's say, just the last thing on Valentine's Day, let's say you've been dating a guy for
04:25:35.600 nine months.
04:25:36.380 What do you expect to happen on Valentine's Day?
04:25:39.640 For nine months?
04:25:40.640 No, you've been dating a guy for nine months.
04:25:42.780 Mm-hmm.
04:25:42.960 It's your first Valentine's together.
04:25:44.640 Mm-hmm.
04:25:44.980 What do you expect?
04:25:48.500 Like, take something they know I like to do and go do it.
04:25:51.700 Oh, wait.
04:25:52.000 Devon Jackson super chatted $50.
04:25:54.100 Okay, last one.
04:25:56.480 Tatum was bored talking about intersexual dynamics, but hot damn did she perk up when she got to
04:26:01.900 talk about herself in MFA.
04:26:05.000 I should have, I should have involved Tatum more.
04:26:07.700 No, that's okay.
04:26:08.400 Self-interested.
04:26:08.700 In the conversation.
04:26:11.280 But, uh.
04:26:12.440 I just felt like it was getting dragged out a little.
04:26:15.280 It was.
04:26:16.120 Yeah, it was.
04:26:16.480 We were arguing.
04:26:17.660 We were definitely arguing.
04:26:18.340 Yeah, it was getting dragged out.
04:26:20.200 So, what do you expect come Valentine's Day?
04:26:23.680 Mm-hmm.
04:26:24.100 Like, from a guy?
04:26:24.740 A bouquet of flowers.
04:26:26.360 I wish.
04:26:26.500 Yeah, like, what do you expect to occur on Valentine's Day?
04:26:29.920 Like.
04:26:30.140 How does it go down?
04:26:31.320 For us to go on a date or to spend time together and then, like, for me to, like, for me to
04:26:36.620 give you something?
04:26:37.160 M. Martin super chatted $50.
04:26:39.560 Oh.
04:26:39.920 Samantha, I'm not quite as gentlemanly as these other boys.
04:26:43.880 I'm just trying to verify your weight.
04:26:46.340 Oh.
04:26:46.600 I'm guessing 118 to 122 pounds.
04:26:50.880 Just trying to make sure that when I throw you up in the air and catch you with my tongue
04:26:55.660 that I won't sprain it.
04:26:57.000 What the fuck?
04:26:58.180 Okay.
04:26:59.420 He paid $50 to save that.
04:27:02.800 That was funny.
04:27:03.620 That's funny.
04:27:04.340 Um.
04:27:05.940 So.
04:27:07.420 He.
04:27:08.100 1 15?
04:27:09.140 No, I'm, I'm, like, 1 0 7.
04:27:11.980 Oh, whoa.
04:27:12.500 Okay.
04:27:12.860 That was, that was a bit off.
04:27:14.080 Sorry, I didn't mean.
04:27:14.860 No, no.
04:27:15.200 To call you fat or anything.
04:27:16.540 No, I don't think, I think, like, majority of girls weigh, like, one, who are developed
04:27:22.280 weigh, like, 1 40, like, 1 30.
04:27:24.300 So, I feel like that's not, like, a bad, okay, 1 40, 1 50.
04:27:27.820 Yeah.
04:27:28.340 So, I don't think that.
04:27:29.460 Average.
04:27:29.960 The average is up there.
04:27:30.900 Yeah, that hurt my feelings a lot.
04:27:31.640 Well, at Santa Barbara, I feel people are a bit more fit, but, uh, yeah.
04:27:35.240 Um, okay, Marden, thank you for that.
04:27:38.100 Uh, uh, so, nine months, what do you expect come Valentine's Day?
04:27:43.320 Tatum, why don't you start?
04:27:44.780 Flowers.
04:27:45.560 Flowers.
04:27:46.160 Yeah, I really like plants and flowers.
04:27:47.740 Chocolate.
04:27:49.020 Like, yeah, but flowers.
04:27:52.580 Okay.
04:27:53.360 What about you?
04:27:54.880 Um, hopefully they, like, know me by then to take me, like, to the beach or go look at
04:27:59.820 the stars in the mountains.
04:28:01.100 I don't like dinner dates, so.
04:28:03.080 Samantha.
04:28:03.960 Um, a date.
04:28:05.240 And then, like, a, like, a really nice handwritten letter would be really sweet with, like, flowers.
04:28:10.260 And, and this is all stuff that the guy's doing, right?
04:28:12.320 Yeah, and then I would obviously make them, like, a handwritten letter.
04:28:15.640 And then maybe, I don't know, I like art, so maybe I would, like, paint something for
04:28:19.360 them or, like, do something like that for them.
04:28:21.820 Okay.
04:28:22.420 You said the dinner, so, is he taking you out?
04:28:26.220 Did you split the bill on Valentine's Day?
04:28:27.620 I feel like we probably have to split the bill.
04:28:29.060 It's, bill, it's Valentine's Day.
04:28:30.300 It's, like, equal.
04:28:31.420 Oh, okay.
04:28:32.660 All right.
04:28:32.980 Like an equal.
04:28:33.420 What about you?
04:28:34.880 Expectation, split the bill, he should pay.
04:28:37.160 Oh, I was thinking we'd, like, bring a picnic.
04:28:41.120 Okay.
04:28:41.640 Or we'd cook dinner.
04:28:42.600 I wouldn't.
04:28:42.860 But you mentioned flowers.
04:28:44.160 Yeah.
04:28:45.200 You mentioned flowers, right?
04:28:46.500 So, that's something that the guy would bring to you.
04:28:49.700 I would also bring flowers.
04:28:51.340 You, you would bring flowers.
04:28:52.520 Okay.
04:28:52.740 So, what did your boyfriend and you do for, or you guys kind of don't do the Valentine's
04:28:58.220 Day thing?
04:28:58.800 Not really, but we do value quality time together, I guess.
04:29:03.500 So, this morning, we just went and got breakfast, but also, his birthday is on the 11th, so we
04:29:08.340 kind of go all out for that, or we don't really do much.
04:29:13.260 Sure.
04:29:13.380 Valentine's Day.
04:29:14.000 Oh, sorry.
04:29:14.500 Go ahead.
04:29:14.920 Continue.
04:29:15.340 I thought you were, it sounded like you were winding down there.
04:29:17.880 I was winding down.
04:29:18.660 You're totally fine.
04:29:19.320 I didn't mean to cut you off.
04:29:21.140 No, no.
04:29:21.600 Liv, go ahead.
04:29:22.400 What's the question?
04:29:24.260 What do you expect?
04:29:25.060 What do you expect on Valentine's Day if you've been dating a guy for nine months?
04:29:28.460 Oh, I mean, I would expect just like some sort of plan, whether it's dinner or just something
04:29:36.880 to do together, but yeah, I don't really expect them to spend too much money on me, because
04:29:43.120 we have other things like birthdays, Christmas, stuff like that.
04:29:48.360 Word.
04:29:49.520 What do you want on Valentine's Day?
04:29:51.820 What do I want on Valentine's Day?
04:29:54.840 Well, I believe Valentine's Day is a corporate, it's invented by corporations to siphon money
04:30:01.620 from people, you know, the flowers that cost $10 any other day of the year cost $100, that
04:30:08.540 dinner reservation that costs $50 normally costs $500.
04:30:11.800 It's basically just a ploy by corporations to enrich in their pocket with just another bogus
04:30:19.040 holiday, which means absolutely nothing.
04:30:21.540 And I do think there's a bit of an expectation on men to, you know, pony up a little bit
04:30:29.720 more on Valentine's Day, so on that front, I'm against it, so yeah.
04:30:34.840 Of course.
04:30:35.600 Of course.
04:30:36.420 Of course.
04:30:36.980 Why of course?
04:30:39.500 No, no, no.
04:30:40.300 Can we not like...
04:30:41.680 No, it's not an argument.
04:30:44.700 No argument.
04:30:45.720 Me and her, we're best friends.
04:30:47.120 From your views, I think she thinks that you would...
04:30:49.860 What would I?
04:30:50.620 What would I do?
04:30:52.380 Speak for your friends.
04:30:53.040 No, all good, all good.
04:30:53.640 There should be expectations on both sides.
04:30:55.540 Yes, but I agree with you that there should be expectations on both sides of Valentine's
04:30:59.400 Day.
04:31:00.060 Oh.
04:31:01.300 Okay.
04:31:02.120 I'm just not...
04:31:02.700 I think Valentine's Day is...
04:31:04.040 Shouldn't be a thing.
04:31:04.900 Just shouldn't be a thing, you know?
04:31:05.860 Yeah.
04:31:06.640 I see that.
04:31:07.400 I see that.
04:31:07.860 I'll show my love to my girl every other day.
04:31:09.860 Yeah.
04:31:10.480 Why is that day special?
04:31:12.060 It doesn't need to be like a special day, but what would I do for my girl?
04:31:16.420 Well, like Hawaii, you know?
04:31:19.480 No big deal.
04:31:20.800 Like, we'll go to Hawaii, I guess.
04:31:22.420 Oh, that's so sweet.
04:31:23.600 Yeah.
04:31:24.880 Yeah.
04:31:26.580 Like, my thing is, when it comes to providing, I don't think it should be upfront for men.
04:31:30.780 Like, I don't think you should do it upfront because of the way the dating marketplace is
04:31:33.780 now.
04:31:34.520 Because, like, here's the thing.
04:31:36.160 When you first meet someone, you kind of have to assume that they're talking to other
04:31:39.240 people and they could be sleeping with one, two, three other people, which for me, like,
04:31:43.480 that's...
04:31:44.700 I don't think that's cool.
04:31:46.460 However, so, when it comes to, like, first dates and stuff, I don't think the guy should
04:31:50.520 pay.
04:31:50.920 I think you should just split because you're just getting to know each other.
04:31:53.220 It's from the start.
04:31:54.040 But, like, if that's my girl, then I'm going to take care of everything.
04:31:59.200 You know?
04:31:59.560 If we're going...
04:32:00.320 Like, and I've done this.
04:32:01.540 Like, if I want to go to Hawaii, I'm not going to be like, hey, pony up.
04:32:05.260 I'm just going to pay for the flight.
04:32:06.780 I'll pay for the hotel.
04:32:07.620 Like, it's not a big deal, you know?
04:32:09.220 But, yeah.
04:32:12.100 So, but definitely not...
04:32:14.480 You can't do that shit off-rip anymore.
04:32:17.560 You can't do the whole romantic shit where you're just taking girls out, spending money
04:32:21.620 on them from the jump.
04:32:22.720 Like, but if she's your girl, then I'm totally fine.
04:32:25.560 Like, I'm totally fine hooking it up, I guess.
04:32:32.200 We have one chart.
04:32:33.560 Eric, if you can pull it up.
04:32:36.920 Valentine's Day related.
04:32:41.660 But, yeah, the commercialism and gimmick of Valentine's Day.
04:32:44.440 It's just too blatant for me.
04:32:49.720 Okay.
04:32:50.800 Valentine's Day, by the numbers.
04:32:52.120 A love affair with spending.
04:32:53.080 Scroll down.
04:32:53.400 $25.9 billion will be spent on Valentine's Day.
04:32:59.980 Average amount spent is $192.
04:33:02.160 Scroll down.
04:33:05.800 Okay.
04:33:07.080 That doesn't matter.
04:33:07.960 Keep scrolling.
04:33:10.660 Okay.
04:33:11.760 Ah, yeah.
04:33:12.280 Men will spend almost twice as much as women in 2023.
04:33:15.900 I'm so sorry, men.
04:33:19.700 Yeah.
04:33:20.760 Apologize.
04:33:21.280 We're so sorry you have to spend so much.
04:33:23.740 That's not fair.
04:33:25.140 Apologize.
04:33:25.600 I don't know who you're spending it on because I'm not getting money spent on me, but.
04:33:29.140 I mean, you got like 50 pending matches on.
04:33:31.260 Hinge, what's up?
04:33:32.120 I know.
04:33:32.660 I just don't look at it.
04:33:33.540 I mean, like I said, I'm talking to someone, so I'm not really interested in other people
04:33:36.040 right now.
04:33:36.800 But you said you were single, but you're talking to someone.
04:33:39.080 That's kind of.
04:33:39.580 Well, I'm still like single.
04:33:40.540 Oh, I just talking to someone in situationships are so difficult because it's like.
04:33:44.220 Have you guys hooked up?
04:33:46.900 No.
04:33:47.900 Whoa.
04:33:48.860 Exposed.
04:33:49.240 No, no, no, no.
04:33:50.340 We have.
04:33:50.820 Like in what, in what sense.
04:33:51.960 Your friend is giggling.
04:33:53.540 She's.
04:33:53.860 No, because what like extent are you talking is hooking up?
04:33:56.740 Like is kissing someone hooking up?
04:33:58.420 Oh, no.
04:33:58.740 You tell me.
04:33:59.660 Is kissing someone hooking up?
04:34:00.920 You spill the beans.
04:34:02.220 Oh, so then.
04:34:02.760 Yeah.
04:34:04.340 It's.
04:34:05.020 There's a little more than kissing going on, I reckon.
04:34:07.700 There might be kissing.
04:34:08.680 Okay.
04:34:08.980 You know what?
04:34:09.740 Whoa.
04:34:10.540 Whoa.
04:34:10.900 I'm not going to explain that.
04:34:11.960 Whoa, whoa, whoa.
04:34:13.540 Samantha.
04:34:14.520 Wait, you're not talking, but you're on a dating app, but you're not.
04:34:17.260 I'm not really a user of it at all.
04:34:19.440 Like.
04:34:19.700 Okay.
04:34:19.880 You guys aren't committed to each other.
04:34:21.360 I suppose.
04:34:21.680 Yeah, so it's different, but I mean, I'm not like talking to other people.
04:34:23.880 Do you want him to be committed to you?
04:34:26.420 I don't want to sound like a simp, but like.
04:34:28.960 Simp.
04:34:29.620 No, no.
04:34:30.400 I don't want to sound like a simp.
04:34:31.540 No.
04:34:31.840 If, if it leads to that, I would like it.
04:34:35.080 So you want commitment?
04:34:36.540 Yeah.
04:34:36.880 Obviously I want commitment.
04:34:37.660 Have you brought it up with him?
04:34:39.080 What does he say?
04:34:40.220 I mean, we've both talked about it.
04:34:41.940 I think.
04:34:43.040 You want it.
04:34:44.000 So he doesn't.
04:34:45.640 Okay.
04:34:47.000 No.
04:34:47.640 And yes.
04:34:48.540 Like, it's kind of like, I've also said that.
04:34:50.640 Like, I don't know if I, we should date yet, but also like, I think it goes both ways.
04:34:58.480 But you want commitment, but he doesn't, he doesn't want to commit.
04:35:02.020 I don't think, I don't think he does want to commit.
04:35:04.240 I just don't think he wants to commit right now.
04:35:05.660 Yeah.
04:35:06.980 I think you need to find a new guy on this one.
04:35:08.440 Yeah.
04:35:08.620 Okay.
04:35:09.140 I mean, like if you've broached, how long have you been in the talking stage?
04:35:15.940 I'm going to put you on some game, Sam.
04:35:17.500 You're going to like blast me right now.
04:35:18.780 I'm going to put you on some game, Sam.
04:35:20.020 I think I've been in the talking stage with this guy, like talky talking, like three months.
04:35:24.960 Three months.
04:35:25.660 Like two to three months.
04:35:26.620 Two to three months.
04:35:27.380 Yeah.
04:35:27.880 How frequently do you guys hang out?
04:35:31.620 Once a week, twice a week, three times a week.
04:35:33.380 Like kind of a lot.
04:35:35.540 Not a lot, like two to three times a week.
04:35:38.760 But it's consistent, frequent.
04:35:40.840 Yeah.
04:35:41.540 Okay.
04:35:41.860 Two to three times a week.
04:35:43.800 And you've broached the commitment subject, but he hasn't.
04:35:48.660 He has.
04:35:50.020 He has, but he has, but he's like.
04:35:52.820 He had like, we had a conversation.
04:35:53.900 He brought it up in a conversation just kind of being like, look, I want to set some things
04:35:57.280 clear.
04:35:57.760 Like let's, where do you want this?
04:35:59.320 And where, like, I'll tell you where I want to go with this.
04:36:01.120 What did he tell you?
04:36:03.200 Just like, I feel bad airing this out.
04:36:05.640 It's okay.
04:36:06.680 His name's.
04:36:07.420 I'm definitely not watching this.
04:36:08.240 He's probably not watching.
04:36:09.180 He's not watching this.
04:36:10.700 Just that, like he, at the moment, he doesn't want.
04:36:13.780 But I also said, I went first and I was like, at this very moment, I don't want to date
04:36:17.140 anyone right now.
04:36:17.880 Did you mean that when you said that?
04:36:20.340 Yes and no.
04:36:21.340 Because obviously like, I would like to fall.
04:36:22.760 It was the right person.
04:36:23.440 Obviously I would like to fall in love with someone, but like, I know like, as of now,
04:36:26.720 maybe I shouldn't be dating someone.
04:36:27.940 I should be really focusing on school and like, because when I date someone, I get very
04:36:32.580 involved with them and I become very like enmeshed.
04:36:38.300 Okay.
04:36:38.660 So, looking out for myself.
04:36:42.840 But you, at this point in time, do you want commitment?
04:36:47.000 With the relation?
04:36:48.160 Yeah.
04:36:48.620 Obviously that's what I want.
04:36:51.200 Okay.
04:36:53.120 So, and when did, at what point, so you said three months?
04:36:58.680 Like two to three months, like midway, two and a half.
04:37:01.300 Okay.
04:37:01.640 At what point did you guys have this conversation?
04:37:04.260 Was it recent?
04:37:04.820 Was it midway through?
04:37:05.840 Like a month in.
04:37:06.760 A month in.
04:37:08.100 Okay.
04:37:09.020 So, do you want to revisit the commitment conversation?
04:37:12.300 We kind of already started revisiting that conversation.
04:37:14.860 I mean, what, what, I don't see how people stay in these talking stages so long.
04:37:19.720 I know.
04:37:20.140 You guys make this, not, not you specifically, but people make this so complicated.
04:37:24.360 It's, it's really rather quite simple.
04:37:26.680 It's so true.
04:37:27.360 It's either yes or no.
04:37:29.940 I mean, if you want to stay in limbo land, that's up to you.
04:37:32.980 I think that's scary airing out your feelings.
04:37:34.880 Yeah.
04:37:35.280 I also like, I'm not, I'm not like upset.
04:37:37.680 I'm in limbo land.
04:37:38.460 Like I'm, I don't really care that I'm like talking like, yeah, it's nice to have someone
04:37:41.960 to talk to you and I'm not going to talk to anyone.
04:37:43.300 Is he seeing other girls?
04:37:44.440 No.
04:37:45.320 Are you sure?
04:37:46.160 Yeah.
04:37:46.340 We've talked about it.
04:37:47.100 But you guys aren't exclusive.
04:37:48.580 Yes.
04:37:49.000 We've all, but we've, but we talked like if it does get serious and you're talking to
04:37:52.680 another girl, like obviously we'll be like, okay, you can go with that.
04:37:55.820 Is he really attractive?
04:37:57.780 Um, I think so.
04:37:59.880 I don't think they would think.
04:38:01.400 Tatum, your thoughts?
04:38:02.360 He's not my type.
04:38:03.120 Yeah.
04:38:03.760 Okay.
04:38:04.100 I don't like go for looks.
04:38:05.180 I'm not the one talking to him.
04:38:05.860 Yeah.
04:38:06.040 I don't like go for looks like specifically.
04:38:08.580 So.
04:38:08.780 Okay.
04:38:10.740 So, I mean, it's kind of, I mean, if you don't mind being in limbo land, I suppose that's
04:38:19.080 fine, but, um, typically when someone is not prepared to commit, they're keeping their
04:38:28.320 options open.
04:38:28.940 So I, I would suspect that he might not be, he could be very well seeing someone else.
04:38:34.480 Yeah, he could be.
04:38:35.380 I wouldn't.
04:38:35.840 If you found out definitively, if he was seeing someone else, would that, would you not want
04:38:41.520 to see him anymore?
04:38:42.580 No.
04:38:43.180 You wouldn't mind?
04:38:43.940 I wouldn't mind.
04:38:44.600 I still talking to him.
04:38:45.580 I mean, we're not dating like, and I feel like this is very like.
04:38:48.760 Three months is a decent amount of time.
04:38:52.380 It is a decent amount of time.
04:38:53.060 So you have a situationship basically.
04:38:54.720 Yes.
04:38:55.340 Yes.
04:38:55.860 Okay.
04:38:56.760 Yeah.
04:38:57.520 All right.
04:38:58.320 Well.
04:39:02.280 Mm-hmm.
04:39:03.280 So I don't, I don't like being in a situationship, but it's okay.
04:39:05.740 What about you, Tatum?
04:39:06.360 Are you talking to anyone right now?
04:39:07.480 No.
04:39:08.320 Nobody?
04:39:08.900 No.
04:39:09.440 Nothing?
04:39:10.140 No.
04:39:10.740 When's the last time you hooked up with somebody?
04:39:13.200 A couple months ago.
04:39:15.180 Okay.
04:39:16.740 Good to know.
04:39:18.440 Did you get to go on the Valentine's Day thing, by the way?
04:39:20.420 Yeah.
04:39:20.560 Yeah.
04:39:20.780 What you expect on Valentine's Day.
04:39:23.820 So, okay, guys, we're going to wrap up there.
04:39:25.780 That was a very long stream.
04:39:28.300 So I appreciate your patience and I appreciate you guys who did stay.
04:39:32.320 Before I wrap up, last opportunity to speak now or forever.
04:39:36.500 Hold your peace.
04:39:37.660 Tatum, I know you hate me.
04:39:40.380 Say something.
04:39:40.860 No, it's okay.
04:39:41.600 Thanks, chat, for not being too mean.
04:39:43.960 Yeah, they weren't too bad.
04:39:45.000 They weren't too mean.
04:39:46.120 They weren't too bad.
04:39:47.180 Okay.
04:39:48.020 All right, guys.
04:39:49.140 That was a long stream.
04:39:50.720 Thank you for tuning in tonight.
04:39:52.360 Thank you all for watching.
04:39:54.580 You could have been doing anything else, but you were here with me.
04:39:58.060 I appreciate that.
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04:40:09.760 Thank you to Chaz.
04:40:11.000 You're a champ staying up this late.
04:40:13.360 Big thank you once again to the wonderful panel.
04:40:16.700 We had some people abandon Jump Ship.
04:40:20.860 We did go quite late.
04:40:22.560 I need to try to wrap these sooner.
04:40:25.460 I'm trying to get it to three hours, but just the conversation was flowing.
04:40:29.760 Anyways, so, yeah, thanks again to the panel.
04:40:32.220 Really appreciate you guys.
04:40:33.680 It was a good conversation.
04:40:35.000 I think the chat enjoyed you guys.
04:40:37.120 So, as I see trash panel.
04:40:40.940 Guys, we will be live again Sunday at 7 p.m. Pacific.
04:40:45.640 Be sure to tune in.
04:40:46.920 I have a very good panel lined up for, actually, the next few panels are very, very good.
04:40:53.380 Did you have some?
04:40:54.240 No.
04:40:54.540 Oh, I thought you were like, okay.
04:40:55.580 No.
04:40:56.100 Anyways, guys, hope you all have a wonderful night.
04:40:59.520 We will see you next time.
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