Whatever Podcast - Dating Talk #58

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00:04:18.740 So, without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.

00:04:23.360 So, please tell us your name, age, and occupation.

00:04:27.100 Go ahead.

00:04:28.160 Hi, I'm Rin.

00:04:29.160 I'm 20, and I'm a college student.

00:04:31.940 Yeah.

00:04:32.940 Hi, I'm Sophia.

00:04:34.400 I'm 18, and I'm also a college student.

00:04:37.380 Hi, I'm Lindsay.

00:04:38.560 I'm a college student.

00:04:39.460 I go to the CC, and I'm an entrepreneurship major.

00:04:42.780 Did you say your age?

00:04:44.460 18.

00:04:45.260 18, okay.

00:04:46.820 Hi, I'm Stella.

00:04:48.180 I'm 18, and I'm a leasing agent.

00:04:50.960 Hi, I'm Monica.

00:04:52.000 I'm 34, and I'm a surgical coordinator.

00:04:56.100 I'm Allie, and I'm 28.

00:04:58.120 I am a housewife and a YouTuber.

00:05:01.340 And you're pregnant. 0.99

00:05:02.340 Oh, yeah.

00:05:02.980 There's like a whole baby here.

00:05:04.700 You know?

00:05:05.980 Yeah.

00:05:06.660 And, guys, she's a YouTuber.

00:05:08.120 She's been in the space for a while.

00:05:09.340 Go check her out. 0.81

00:05:10.440 How far along are you in the pregnancy?

00:05:13.040 About seven months, and then I get to disappear off the face.

00:05:16.020 For a little bit, you know?

00:05:18.120 But just babies are cuter than Anon's in the chat sometimes.

00:05:20.820 I'm sorry, guys.

00:05:21.960 All right.

00:05:22.400 Very cool.

00:05:23.020 Well, congratulations on that.

00:05:24.940 And, okay, so where do you guys go to school?

00:05:27.960 UCSB?

00:05:28.560 CC?

00:05:29.560 CC.

00:05:30.300 CC.

00:05:31.260 CC.

00:05:32.440 Okay.

00:05:33.040 All right.

00:05:33.560 I go to CC, too.

00:05:34.820 Sure, sure, sure.

00:05:36.240 What are you guys all studying?

00:05:38.520 Communications.

00:05:39.180 Comm.

00:05:39.800 I'm a nursing major.

00:05:42.040 Entrepreneurship.

00:05:43.000 Econ major.

00:05:44.080 All right.

00:05:44.600 Very cool.

00:05:45.240 Very cool.

00:05:46.260 So we're going to go around the table one more time.

00:05:48.820 What is your current relationship?

00:05:50.900 Whoa.

00:05:52.340 Screwed that one up.

00:05:53.480 Current relationship status.

00:05:54.840 Are you single?

00:05:55.860 Situationship?

00:05:56.540 Relationship?

00:05:57.140 And what is your longest relationship?

00:05:59.040 Go ahead.

00:06:00.100 I'm currently single.

00:06:01.280 I just got out of a relationship, like, last week.

00:06:05.480 And my longest relationship was a year and a half.

00:06:08.980 Okay, so you just got out of a relationship last week.

00:06:13.080 Yeah.

00:06:13.680 How long were you guys dating?

00:06:15.520 Like a month.

00:06:17.380 It was, like, a rebound.

00:06:19.200 From, you said a year and a half was your longest relationship?

00:06:22.440 Yeah.

00:06:23.100 Okay.

00:06:23.580 It was a rebound to that one?

00:06:25.380 No.

00:06:25.600 So the year and a half was, like, last.

00:06:28.540 It ended, like, a year ago.

00:06:30.060 But then my rebound that just ended, it was, like, a rebound for, like, a situationship in, like, December.

00:06:36.940 So it's a rebound of a situationship.

00:06:39.420 Yeah.

00:06:40.000 Which occurred after the long one.

00:06:41.820 Okay.

00:06:42.080 Sure.

00:06:42.400 Yeah.

00:06:42.480 Okay, good times.

00:06:44.160 Good times.

00:06:45.340 What about you?

00:06:46.640 So I'm very single.

00:06:48.700 I've actually never been in a relationship, but I've had my fair share of situationships.

00:06:54.460 Very single and fair share of relationships.

00:06:57.800 Situationships.

00:06:58.220 Excuse me, situationships.

00:06:59.520 Never been in a relationship.

00:07:00.220 What's the longest period of time that you've dated a guy?

00:07:03.720 I've never dated, per se, but I was seeing someone, I guess, on and off for a good, like, four months.

00:07:14.000 On and off.

00:07:15.040 Yeah.

00:07:15.280 Four months.

00:07:15.980 Yeah.

00:07:17.260 Was it ever boyfriend-girlfriend?

00:07:19.140 Never.

00:07:19.700 We never put the label on it.

00:07:20.920 We were just seeing each other.

00:07:22.620 And, yeah, basically just a situationship.

00:07:25.120 Okay.

00:07:25.420 Besides that one, the four-month on-again, off-again thing, what's the longest period of time you say you've continued to see a guy?

00:07:33.020 Maybe, obviously, it didn't lead to a proper relationship, but what's the longest?

00:07:37.640 I think, honestly, that one.

00:07:39.440 Besides that one?

00:07:40.580 Besides the on-again, off-again one?

00:07:42.300 Probably another one for about, like, two months.

00:07:45.780 Two months here, four months there.

00:07:47.760 Yeah.

00:07:48.140 Yeah.

00:07:48.560 And so very single.

00:07:51.420 Yeah.

00:07:51.660 What does that mean?

00:07:52.760 What does very single mean?

00:07:54.040 I don't know.

00:07:54.740 I've just gotten to college, and I just, all my friends have been in relationships, and I don't know.

00:08:01.200 I'm kind of looking for that a little bit, but I don't think I'm going to find it in Santa Barbara.

00:08:06.440 You don't think you're going to find what in Santa Barbara?

00:08:08.820 A relationship, like a real relationship.

00:08:10.580 Why is that?

00:08:11.620 Because all the guys here don't, none of them want that, honestly.

00:08:15.740 They don't really want something real, you know?

00:08:18.940 None of the guys want something real?

00:08:20.100 No.

00:08:20.560 I don't think so.

00:08:21.200 Is that what you want?

00:08:22.480 Yeah, I'd say, but I don't really want to keep looking for it if no one's going to be willing to, you know?

00:08:30.020 Okay.

00:08:31.260 We'll come back to that.

00:08:32.320 What about you?

00:08:32.680 I'm also single, and I, like, just kind of going off her answer, I've not been in a committed relationship, but I've been committed to a person for about two years in the past.

00:08:52.120 This, I assume, was a high school.

00:08:53.920 Yeah.

00:08:54.160 It must have been in a high school relationship.

00:08:55.520 So, was that, so your longest relationship was two years then?

00:09:01.240 It was a relationship.

00:09:02.260 It was not boyfriend-girlfriend, yeah.

00:09:03.940 It was a relationship, but not boyfriend-girlfriend.

00:09:06.720 The same way you and I have a relationship, we just know each other, but it was, there was a romantic energy there, but it was never official, so.

00:09:16.200 A romantic energy.

00:09:17.660 Okay.

00:09:18.120 So, you were seeing him for two years.

00:09:22.180 Yeah.

00:09:22.400 But you weren't boyfriend and girlfriend?

00:09:26.020 That's correct.

00:09:27.220 Was this, like, a pen pal situation, like, across the country?

00:09:32.340 You met him playing World of Warcraft or something?

00:09:34.680 No.

00:09:35.140 It was a friend that was more than a friend, but.

00:09:40.460 Okay.

00:09:41.040 We just, you know, we never put the label on it.

00:09:43.300 Is that because you didn't want it, or he didn't want it, or both?

00:09:48.060 He didn't.

00:09:48.860 I would have, but he did not.

00:09:51.000 But you guys were monogamous.

00:09:55.340 No.

00:09:56.540 So, it was an open relationship.

00:10:00.460 I guess technically, but we never really defined it.

00:10:03.940 Two years?

00:10:05.460 That's a long time.

00:10:06.720 Yeah.

00:10:06.940 It was the epitome of settling, is what it was.

00:10:11.440 In any case.

00:10:11.540 You settled?

00:10:12.240 Yes.

00:10:13.060 How so?

00:10:13.840 Because I was really into him, and I was like, you know what?

00:10:16.080 He doesn't want to be exclusive, so I'm okay to just, like, take what I can get, and it's

00:10:21.160 taught me a lot about relationships and what I want in the future.

00:10:24.280 So, in the moment, though, would you say that you settled, okay, so you settled for, it was

00:10:39.540 worth it to be with him, even though he wasn't willing to commit to you, it was still worth

00:10:45.220 it to keep him in your life, despite the fact he was not prepared to move things along.

00:10:50.660 Exactly.

00:10:51.240 Okay.

00:10:51.540 So, was he, like, exceptionally attractive babe status?

00:10:55.460 Yes.

00:10:56.120 Okay.

00:10:57.020 Athlete?

00:10:58.260 Yes.

00:10:59.000 How tall was he?

00:11:00.280 5'10".

00:11:01.320 Oh, okay.

00:11:02.160 All right.

00:11:02.400 I have a thing, I just, like, tall dudes are awesome, but I just, I feel like short guys

00:11:10.780 are kind of where it's at, like, just overall, like, I think that better personality, and just

00:11:18.420 in my experience, I have enjoyed time spent with shorter guys.

00:11:24.560 Okay.

00:11:25.360 What about you?

00:11:27.260 Closest to the mic, guys.

00:11:28.200 Sorry, I am currently in a relationship, and I want to say my longest relationship was

00:11:33.020 probably two years.

00:11:34.980 Okay.

00:11:35.680 Yeah.

00:11:36.360 Is that your current one?

00:11:37.920 No, it's not.

00:11:38.700 Okay.

00:11:39.960 All right, what about you?

00:11:41.500 So, I actually was married for, together for 11 years, married for seven, so I got divorced

00:11:50.420 about four years ago, and I've just been doing me and focusing on me and my son.

00:11:56.860 I've had had a few situationships, just had one recent one that's not really worth mentioning.

00:12:04.880 You can mention it.

00:12:05.900 Nah, it's just not worth it.

00:12:06.400 No, it's not worth it.

00:12:07.480 All right.

00:12:07.960 But the other one before that, that was a roller coaster for sure.

00:12:12.640 I was, like, almost two years of just on and off, on and off, and it was a rebound from

00:12:18.260 my divorce, so in my defense, I was, like, not really in it, but I kind of wanted to be

00:12:22.920 in it, so it was back and forth, and then this last one has just been a few months, so.

00:12:29.940 Are you, so you're currently seeing him, or are you split?

00:12:32.520 Oh, no, we split.

00:12:33.300 How long, so how long have you been single, so to speak?

00:12:38.260 Three hours ago?

00:12:39.540 You guys broke up three hours ago.

00:12:41.140 We ended the situationship about earlier in the day, so yeah.

00:12:45.140 Good times.

00:12:45.920 Good times.

00:12:46.340 It was good times.

00:12:47.140 Wow.

00:12:47.680 So, and how long were you seeing him for again?

00:12:52.380 About four or five months.

00:12:55.820 Okay.

00:12:57.000 All right.

00:12:57.820 Not bad.

00:12:58.260 Why did he dump you?

00:12:59.620 I actually broke it off.

00:13:01.140 Okay.

00:13:01.580 Why is that?

00:13:02.420 It was time and effort.

00:13:03.560 You know, you can't give me the basics.

00:13:05.020 I'm not, we're not there.

00:13:06.700 Sorry, we're not on the same page, so.

00:13:08.780 Okay.

00:13:09.360 You can't give me time and effort, communication.

00:13:10.700 Like, that's cool.

00:13:11.400 We have priorities.

00:13:12.820 But communication is great.

00:13:14.460 Did y'all split in person, or was it?

00:13:16.980 No, so I did it over, like, DMs.

00:13:21.160 Over DMs?

00:13:22.080 Yeah.

00:13:22.780 Okay.

00:13:23.320 Yeah, whatever.

00:13:24.320 All right.

00:13:25.120 It's a taste of their own medicine.

00:13:26.620 Excuse me.

00:13:27.240 Is it not?

00:13:28.020 What is?

00:13:28.680 Like, breaking up with somebody or doing something over DMs.

00:13:32.600 What do you mean a taste of their own medicine?

00:13:34.600 Who is there?

00:13:35.300 Do you know how many guys have done that to girls?

00:13:38.660 Guys have done what to girls?

00:13:40.080 Just, like, just left them hanging or let them on.

00:13:42.700 Well, women overwhelmingly initiate breakups. 1.00

00:13:45.820 Do they?

00:13:46.500 And divorce. 0.75

00:13:47.220 Yeah.

00:13:47.780 Women are more likely to end things than guys. 1.00

00:13:50.580 Yeah. 1.00

00:13:51.060 You gotta fuck up as a chick. 1.00

00:13:52.780 Well, not necessarily, but, like, most guys will stick by you. 1.00

00:13:57.120 Really?

00:13:57.560 Women are much more likely to end relationships. 1.00

00:14:00.120 Or maybe I just...

00:14:00.740 Well, I mean, we can go around the table on this, then we'll have Allie come in and say 0.78

00:14:03.820 her relationship piece.

00:14:04.940 But, um, of the times, so imagine all the guys that in any situation where you've had

00:14:11.640 to say, hey, I don't want to see you anymore or, and that could manifest itself either in

00:14:17.760 ghosting where you don't even overtly communicate it.

00:14:20.280 So, basically, that could be anywhere from after the first date all the way to a one-year,

00:14:26.060 two-year relationship.

00:14:27.080 So, that entire spectrum of the times where there's someone who's not wanting to see the

00:14:32.000 other person, is it more often you or is it more often the guy?

00:14:35.320 It's more often the guy for me, because usually, like, I...

00:14:42.140 Stop the cat! 1.00

00:14:45.380 Usually, for me, like, if I'm not happy, like, I'll try to work things out.

00:14:49.380 And, like, sometimes, like, I tend to kind of, like, go, like, like, I tend to, like,

00:14:54.560 bend over backwards for someone that I like, even if, like, it makes me unhappy.

00:14:59.380 Yes!

00:15:00.120 But, yeah, and then sometimes, like, yeah, and then they would...

00:15:03.700 Yeah.

00:15:04.180 Yeah.

00:15:04.380 I don't...

00:15:05.540 So, you've never ended things with a guy?

00:15:09.460 Um, like, well, if it was, like, a first date thing and it just didn't go well, I would,

00:15:15.480 I would be, like, I'm not feeling it.

00:15:17.100 But if, like, we've been seeing each other for, like, a bit, usually, like, he ends it

00:15:22.020 or it's mutual.

00:15:23.780 Okay.

00:15:24.340 Here, we'll continue on.

00:15:25.620 What about you?

00:15:26.320 I feel like I've had some pretty unique, like, situationships, friends with benefits type

00:15:32.380 things.

00:15:32.880 Um, my first one, the guy actually was here in my town, my hometown for a hockey, he was

00:15:39.880 playing hockey, and then he was there for, like, three or four months.

00:15:44.300 He was the longest one that I mentioned before.

00:15:46.320 And then he ended up leaving because he had to go to another state to play.

00:15:51.240 So, that was kind of just mutual.

00:15:54.060 But I was really upset for a good, like, 20 minutes.

00:15:56.900 I cried.

00:15:57.520 He came to my house. 0.98

00:15:58.600 And then I just got over it because I realized he was kind of ugly. 0.95

00:16:01.640 But it was okay. 0.86

00:16:02.380 You realized this.

00:16:06.320 I realized it after he left.

00:16:07.800 I was kind of looking and I was like, oh, I just did it because he was there.

00:16:11.120 You know, that sounds kind of messed up.

00:16:12.820 But.

00:16:13.080 You just did it because he was there.

00:16:16.240 And by did it, you mean what?

00:16:19.300 Occasionally.

00:16:20.100 Like, hooking up.

00:16:21.380 Occasionally.

00:16:21.780 A little bit, yeah.

00:16:22.440 A little bit, okay.

00:16:23.800 And you said he was, you realized three months in he was ugly?

00:16:27.300 No, I realized after.

00:16:29.300 He was a sweet kid, though.

00:16:30.760 It was personality overlooks.

00:16:32.560 Oh, of course.

00:16:33.640 Yeah.

00:16:33.880 Of course.

00:16:34.260 Okay.

00:16:35.520 So, but what about, like, think of all the, you said you've had a couple situationships

00:16:39.260 here and there.

00:16:41.400 Who's ending it?

00:16:43.400 If I'm not feeling it, I will end it.

00:16:45.540 But, okay, so.

00:16:46.660 Oh, oh, Cheeks.

00:16:48.520 Thank you, man.

00:16:48.920 One hundred dollars.

00:16:49.600 Appreciate it.

00:16:50.320 Sorry, skinny mom. 1.00

00:16:51.400 The harsh truth is that no real man wants to be with any single moms. 0.98

00:16:55.500 They are strictly made for recreational use.

00:16:58.200 Go back to the baby daddy or daddy guy with kids.

00:17:01.280 Those are your real bets I'm doing me aside for your child to see.

00:17:04.960 Your response to beaten cheeks.

00:17:08.900 Who beat you as a child? 1.00

00:17:10.840 What the f***? 1.00

00:17:11.940 You gotta say that shit into the microphone, first off. 1.00

00:17:13.560 He said, who beat you as a child? 1.00

00:17:15.720 Who?

00:17:16.840 Beaten cheeks.

00:17:17.720 She says that you've been beaten as a child.

00:17:21.400 Where did that come from?

00:17:24.620 Just the name.

00:17:26.820 Because of the beaten cheeks?

00:17:28.940 I don't think he, like, he was spanked.

00:17:31.840 I don't think that's what that name means.

00:17:33.580 I think he's doing the spanking. 0.87

00:17:35.940 Beat and... 0.98

00:17:36.700 It's a sex joke.

00:17:38.340 I don't really know.

00:17:38.860 Oh, okay.

00:17:39.300 I feel bad.

00:17:40.040 Oh, that was a joke.

00:17:40.780 I feel bad for whoever's being spanked on that end. 0.92

00:17:43.020 Okay, cool.

00:17:48.500 So, we were talking about you, right?

00:17:50.580 So, go ahead.

00:17:52.520 More often than not, who ends things?

00:17:55.380 It'll usually be me, I think.

00:17:57.700 Okay.

00:17:58.160 Yeah, but I'm also, I hate confrontation, so it's kind of like, yeah.

00:18:02.860 It's kind of like what?

00:18:04.120 Like, you do it over text or...

00:18:06.000 I think it's more respectful to do it to their face, to tell them that you want to end things.

00:18:12.660 I think so.

00:18:14.740 No one wants to get broken up with over the phone.

00:18:17.420 Well, I mean, if you've...

00:18:18.860 If it's a short period of time, you know, like nine months, that's a text.

00:18:25.520 Nine months?

00:18:26.400 Nine months is a text.

00:18:27.740 It's like a pregnancy. 0.70

00:18:28.300 Maybe like a year and a half, then you get a phone call.

00:18:30.960 A year and a half?

00:18:32.000 Two years maybe in person.

00:18:34.600 I disagree, personally.

00:18:36.340 What?

00:18:36.860 Yeah, I don't know.

00:18:37.580 So, like...

00:18:38.260 Yeah, hard disagree.

00:18:39.540 No.

00:18:39.720 Nah, it's got to be text.

00:18:42.060 Well, I mean, look.

00:18:43.100 A text?

00:18:43.220 You guys can do it however you want.

00:18:45.520 I know, speaking for myself, I would much rather, even if I've been seeing a girl for like nine months, just send me a text.

00:18:53.520 I don't need the theatrics and the...

00:18:56.760 Well, you must not really like her then.

00:18:58.380 Yeah, it depends on the individual.

00:19:00.120 Why have you been with them for nine months, if you're okay with being broken up over the phone?

00:19:06.060 Well, I don't follow the logic there, but...

00:19:08.580 Nine months is an incredibly...

00:19:09.820 Closer to the mic.

00:19:10.520 Nine months is an incredibly short time to be in a relationship with anybody.

00:19:13.900 Like, I'm actually quite shocked at how dysfunctional this panel is and how nobody can maintain long-term relationships.

00:19:20.160 Brian, I was wondering how old you were, because for men, it's different, you know?

00:19:24.380 I'm 33.

00:19:25.340 You're 33.

00:19:26.140 Okay.

00:19:26.340 Yeah, I mean, that's okay.

00:19:28.700 Let me explain, right?

00:19:30.240 Um, so I'm actually pregnant with a girl right now, so I'm having a daughter, and being here is like terrifying, because I have to see like the world that my daughter is going to come up in.

00:19:44.060 And I don't want, like, what you guys are experiencing, I would never want or wish for my daughter.

00:19:49.780 I don't want my daughter to be used by, like, some guy in high school or, like, some guy in college, because that's what's going on.

00:19:55.180 Because we're talking about dating and situationships.

00:19:57.820 We're giving our bodies to these men.

00:19:59.740 And I don't want her to be used by some guy who could care less.

00:20:02.460 You know, I want her to be able to exercise discernment and have better options.

00:20:05.740 And we can talk about data and statistics along the way.

00:20:08.680 You guys were talking about how one of you was saying that, you know, men lead more.

00:20:13.320 So right now, like, Pew Research data just dropped, where 60% of men from 18 to 29, it's not even like they want a date anymore.

00:20:21.940 They're single, and they're not looking.

00:20:23.600 So we're dealing with a very small pool of men, which means we need to be wise.

00:20:27.320 But I don't think, I'm sorry, but I don't think any of y'all know how men work.

00:20:32.140 Because the way that I'm hearing you guys talk, it's like two different worlds.

00:20:35.780 From our perspective, it makes a lot of sense.

00:20:38.200 But we have Brian here.

00:20:39.380 We have the cameraman.

00:20:40.540 Men operate on a completely different spectrum when it comes to relationships.

00:20:43.720 And I'm not an expert, but I do have a YouTube channel.

00:20:46.080 I interview wives on purpose that have been married 20, 30 years, much longer than myself.

00:20:50.460 And I do that so women can get an education, because a lot of this stuff, like, this is just sad and heartbreaking to me.

00:20:55.780 I want nothing but love, and hopefully children, if you guys want children, too.

00:20:59.700 But it's like a problem.

00:21:02.000 So there's another thing that's coming up, too, right?

00:21:05.360 So 45% of women right now, from ages, I want to say 25 to 44, they're projected to be single by 2030. 0.54

00:21:13.860 Like, we're not dating well.

00:21:16.200 This is scary.

00:21:17.640 I'm concerned for my child. 0.98

00:21:19.120 So, I mean, I know, not to be all philosophical, but I'm like, holy crap. 0.99

00:21:23.380 Also, there's something wrong with California. 0.91

00:21:24.860 Like, I highly recommend moving.

00:21:26.320 Like, leave this place.

00:21:27.660 I agree.

00:21:28.040 I think California guys are possibly not where it's at.

00:21:31.320 But I also find your statement incredibly condescending.

00:21:35.120 Why?

00:21:35.240 Because you just said that we are dysfunctional for not being able to commit to long-term relationships.

00:21:40.820 But then also just said that men are not looking for relationships.

00:21:44.880 No, no, no.

00:21:45.200 And I completely agree.

00:21:46.260 So how is it dysfunctional to not commit yourself and be in a long-term relationship when you can agree that that's also not what guys are looking for and it's okay to not want to waste your time?

00:21:56.740 And I just wanted to hop in and say one thing.

00:21:59.000 I think it was a really broad statement for you to say that everyone was dysfunctional.

00:22:02.940 I personally am in a two-year or about to be two-year long committed relationship.

00:22:07.680 I have a ring, you know.

00:22:09.420 And I think that it's a broad statement to kind of, like, put that out.

00:22:14.720 And it was condescending.

00:22:15.820 I think that not only are guys, you know, not as much looking for relationships these days, but I don't think girls are either. 0.96

00:22:23.660 Right.

00:22:24.080 So, like, that pool of men that I'm talking about, like, the 60%, like, those are nihilistic men.

00:22:29.080 Right?

00:22:29.380 So then we're talking about, like, the 40% of men that are looking for relationships.

00:22:33.040 And that's, like, for the Pew Research data.

00:22:35.200 The other perspective is, like, where it stands right now, only one in three and one in five men is even on sex in the first place.

00:22:40.240 I'm sorry, is this in America?

00:22:41.720 Yes, this is in America.

00:22:42.600 Okay, so all in America.

00:22:43.360 Like, I can show this all to you.

00:22:44.580 Like, if you guys get curious, because I just like to educate women, because I want you guys to live full lives.

00:22:49.980 And I would assume, for a lot of women, you guys are looking for this romantic story, this kind of situation where you get to have a man to rely on, and you get to have children with him.

00:22:59.020 I'm happy to share all this stuff with you guys.

00:23:00.380 Do they?

00:23:01.160 Why don't we ask them?

00:23:02.000 Do you?

00:23:02.540 What do you guys want?

00:23:04.160 I absolutely do.

00:23:05.060 I, one day, want the white fence, and a husband who comes home, makes most of the money in our house.

00:23:11.520 I don't think I'll ever have a time in my life where I'm not working.

00:23:14.400 I'm a workaholic.

00:23:15.580 But I, one day, want to be a mom.

00:23:17.240 Hold on, just a second.

00:23:18.000 Steven Krug super chatted $99.99.

00:23:22.260 Pregnant lady is so 100% correct, Tom, mind blown. 1.00

00:23:26.800 I've been waiting so long for someone to say this. 0.91

00:23:29.940 All the women on this show are dysfunctional. 1.00

00:23:32.460 This is part of the reason I'm 31 and single and waiting it out for the one to show up who is critical and uses data.

00:23:42.020 Well, like, okay, to be fair, like, it's not necessarily y'all's fault.

00:23:46.340 And the chat's going to get mad because this is, like, a predominantly male audience.

00:23:49.880 I don't think our moms are teaching us how to get men that we are attracted to and how to keep them. 1.00

00:23:55.700 And I think that that is a huge issue.

00:23:58.600 Like, what did your mothers teach you about dating?

00:24:00.440 I feel like, in my perspective, I grew up with a single dad who raised me.

00:24:06.860 And I think that is part of the reason why I am in a good relationship and why I kind of know that there are roles in a relationship.

00:24:14.640 And I'm more on the traditional side.

00:24:16.480 And I think that's why I've been able to secure someone who has a really good job, someone who takes care of me, someone who is all about me.

00:24:23.040 You know what I mean? And I do think that I was taught at a young age by my single dad how to be a good girlfriend because he was maybe so bitter about my mom.

00:24:34.340 So I do understand kind of where you're coming from.

00:24:37.660 I just was trying to say maybe it was a broad statement at first.

00:24:40.840 Yeah, I made a general statement.

00:24:42.400 Like, here's the thing.

00:24:43.800 What's the definition of a functional relationship?

00:24:45.880 The definition of a functional relationship is one where both of your needs are getting met.

00:24:49.120 I'm not hearing a lot of that from you guys.

00:24:51.340 And that's, so if it's not functional, I mean, you could call it neutral or you could say, like, and you could argue that it might be dysfunctional.

00:24:57.900 But you guys are all very young.

00:24:58.900 Like, you said you're 20.

00:24:59.840 You said you're 18.

00:25:00.520 Like, I don't expect y'all to know it.

00:25:01.980 But if you guys don't figure out how men are, like, you're going to get, like, ran up on hard.

00:25:06.380 And then you're going to have, like, this darkness in your heart.

00:25:09.280 And you're just going to not want to deal with men at all.

00:25:11.660 And that happens a lot.

00:25:12.600 Like, I'm 28.

00:25:13.800 I'm not old, okay?

00:25:15.020 But, like, you guys probably do think I'm old.

00:25:17.220 But that's really concerning.

00:25:18.180 Like, have you ever seen women on the other side? 0.88

00:25:19.760 They're, like, miserable at your family functions and alone?

00:25:22.320 I just, I want to say, I still think you're being quite condescending because we said we have not been in a long-term relationship.

00:25:29.620 Does not mean we don't know what we want.

00:25:32.080 And we don't know what a good relationship looks like.

00:25:34.120 Hold on just a sec, guys.

00:25:36.340 Saved by the bell.

00:25:36.980 Ladies on the panel, what Allie is saying is only condescending to you because you guys lack the knowledge of life that she has experienced.

00:25:44.280 Can we pull up?

00:25:44.580 She is trying to help you listen to her.

00:25:46.440 You won't get the white picket fence with a hubby with that entitled attitude.

00:25:51.500 Okay, cheeks.

00:25:54.320 That's just how they are.

00:25:57.120 So, you said you were in, did you say you were in a relationship?

00:26:00.660 No.

00:26:01.320 How old are you?

00:26:02.080 I'm single.

00:26:02.500 I'm 18.

00:26:03.140 You're 18.

00:26:03.900 Yeah, like, that's to be expected.

00:26:05.380 I would expect you to be single when you're 18.

00:26:07.340 But I would very much urge and encourage you guys to try to understand the opposite sex better because if you don't get married by 30, it's very unlikely that you will be married past that.

00:26:15.980 And it has, I mean, you could look at it as a perspective of, like, aging and options.

00:26:19.260 But it also comes down to, I don't know, I think there's also personality differences.

00:26:24.360 I just think it's unlikely that if you're waiting that long to get married, it might not be a priority for you.

00:26:28.600 And not every woman wants to get married.

00:26:30.380 But I would say that that's probably the minority of women, but we're being convinced that that's the majority of women right now. 0.74

00:26:35.340 And I'm not sure that that's helpful.

00:26:37.300 Right?

00:26:37.520 So, like, I would just look past at how my words make you feel.

00:26:42.540 Because at the end of the day, I'm going to give birth to a girl.

00:26:45.640 She's going to be a woman. 0.58

00:26:47.000 This is just, like, not what I would want for her.

00:26:49.640 You know what I mean?

00:26:50.140 Because it's not, like, you're talking about...

00:26:51.200 What isn't what you would want for her?

00:26:52.480 Waiting for a good guy to come along to commit to?

00:26:54.680 Or is your advice, hop into a relationship as young as you can to secure a man?

00:27:00.500 I wouldn't say hop into a relationship, like, as young as you can.

00:27:03.640 Because most women are, like, honestly, very... 1.00

00:27:06.460 The youngest I've seen a woman be aware of, like, herself in romance is 24.

00:27:10.960 And to know what she wants fully and to know herself.

00:27:13.200 Unless you're growing up in a two-parent traditional religious household.

00:27:16.400 So I wouldn't, like, you know, necessarily send up in this world, like, send off my daughter to get married at 18.

00:27:21.000 And unless that was her personality type, to where she just always wanted long-term relationships. 0.94

00:27:25.020 And that's, like, how she is, right?

00:27:27.380 So, but I would encourage my daughter to get married.

00:27:30.640 You know, I think a lot of women find fulfillment in marriage and children. 1.00

00:27:34.140 But it has to be done in a healthy context.

00:27:36.820 Like, I'm kind of confused at why you're upset with me.

00:27:41.220 I'm not upset.

00:27:42.380 I had an issue with your initial statement.

00:27:45.320 I fully agree.

00:27:46.060 I think that marriage is a serious source of fulfillment.

00:27:50.620 And, you know, two-parent households are what makes the world a better place.

00:27:57.540 You came out and said that we are dysfunctional because we are not in relationships.

00:28:02.260 And then you made it seem like, because I'm 18 and not in a relationship, I'm never going to get married.

00:28:07.000 No, no.

00:28:07.760 That's, that, I'm not, like, I'm not trying to be mean.

00:28:10.020 Like, that's, that's, like, projection.

00:28:11.200 That's not what I said.

00:28:11.540 I'm not worried about you being mean.

00:28:12.980 It was your statement.

00:28:13.820 It just didn't make sense.

00:28:14.700 Right, okay.

00:28:15.660 Fully disagreed.

00:28:17.100 You can't disagree, right?

00:28:18.540 But I'm not saying that if you don't get married at 18 that you'll never get married.

00:28:21.420 That's not the statement that I made at all, right?

00:28:23.720 Like, you're making a different argument that wasn't said.

00:28:25.760 I said that it's dysfunctional to let men use your bodies and to be waiting for him for two years. 0.96

00:28:31.420 I'm not saying that you did.

00:28:32.620 I'm not saying that you did.

00:28:33.620 But most women are out there, right, because we want these guys to like us. 0.93

00:28:36.860 So then let's say most women, not you guys.

00:28:40.140 That's what you're inferring, though, I do.

00:28:42.140 No, well, you're in a two-year relationship, so we're, like, we're not even really talking about you.

00:28:45.040 You figured something out.

00:28:46.240 You grew up with a single dad.

00:28:48.220 But does that mean that they haven't figured anything out?

00:28:50.080 What I'm saying, though, is I understand that you're not necessarily saying it to them, but you are inferring it with what you're saying.

00:28:55.240 So I do kind of get, like...

00:28:56.320 You're staring at us and saying, you guys, and you haven't done this, and you haven't done that.

00:29:00.200 Right.

00:29:00.520 We're working on it.

00:29:01.140 Or are you to just, like, take it with grace?

00:29:02.980 Hold on.

00:29:03.700 Go ahead.

00:29:04.260 It was just, like, the fact that, you know, we're, like, we're pretty young, and we're talking about how we haven't...

00:29:09.200 Like, our longest relationship is, like, two years, one year and a half, and you're saying, like, I'm very, like, terrified that you guys can't, like, hold down to, you know, long-term relationships.

00:29:17.240 Like, we're pretty young.

00:29:18.380 We shouldn't really be in, like, such long-term relationships at this age.

00:29:22.220 And just the way you're just saying, like, you know, I'm worried for my daughter because this is the future she lives in.

00:29:26.520 But it's, like, if you're so worried about your daughter, like, wouldn't you be able to teach her how to, you know, like, do what you want her to do?

00:29:35.060 And because...

00:29:35.440 It's not about what I want her to do.

00:29:36.500 Okay, but you did say what you wanted her to do. 0.68

00:29:39.480 It's, like, you wanted her to, like, you know, kind of, you know, have a fulfilling life.

00:29:44.100 And, like, that's true.

00:29:45.240 But, like, yeah, just, like...

00:29:49.220 I lost my train of thought.

00:29:50.660 No, no, no, I got it.

00:29:51.240 I can explain, right?

00:29:52.400 Okay, so, like, before the show, we're talking about dating apps.

00:29:55.680 Some of you ladies are on Tinder. 1.00

00:29:57.160 Some of you ladies are on Hinge. 1.00

00:29:58.260 I actually think Hinge is pretty good.

00:29:59.640 Hinge is pretty cute.

00:30:00.340 I've seen a lot of relationships come off of Hinge.

00:30:02.220 But when we're talking about Tinder and we're already complaining about the small pool of men that we're having issues with,

00:30:08.980 like, if you are a man with malicious intent or if you are a man who, you know, like, let's say he has a proclivity towards sociopathy or narcissism and he's attractive,

00:30:18.460 he's going to be using Tinder in order to date you guys.

00:30:20.940 Like, I wouldn't, I'm just, why would you be on these apps?

00:30:24.360 Like, what part of that sounds healthy?

00:30:27.000 Like, this is what I'm saying.

00:30:27.840 Like, I'm confused.

00:30:29.140 I just think, like, we're on, like, different life stages because, like, with me, like, yeah, like, dating, it would, like, add some, like, you know, fun to my life.

00:30:36.900 But, like, for you, it's, like, you know, you're, like, settling down.

00:30:39.980 But for, I feel like when you're younger, like, my age and, like, everyone's age here, it's, like, I'm not, I'm not here to, like, settle down at my age.

00:30:48.020 Like, I'm not, I'm not trying to sleep around.

00:30:49.660 I'm not trying to do whatever.

00:30:50.540 But it's, like, you know, it's, like, to have, like, somebody to kind of rely on.

00:30:54.440 Not somebody to be, like, oh, like, have my babies.

00:30:57.220 I'm not at that age yet.

00:30:58.260 I'm at, like, a different stage.

00:30:59.320 You know what I mean?

00:31:00.040 Like, I'm just looking for something different right now.

00:31:02.080 And, like, I'm, like, focusing on my career.

00:31:04.240 I'm focusing on, like, school.

00:31:05.760 Like, I'm not really focused on, like, a husband.

00:31:08.580 You know what I mean?

00:31:09.560 Yeah, no, that totally makes sense.

00:31:11.100 So, like, but you're saying dating.

00:31:12.700 And a lot of women use the word dating as a euphemism. 1.00

00:31:15.640 Like, when we talk about situationships, it's often, like, we're talking about unprotected sex.

00:31:19.960 Like, we live in a world that has hormonal birth control.

00:31:22.920 You know what I mean?

00:31:23.340 Like, I'm not, I'm not saying, like, you just don't have to say anything that you're doing behind the scenes.

00:31:26.880 But, you know, if we're just dating men and we're not necessarily, like, giving our bodies to them

00:31:31.320 or we're getting to know them, like, that's amazing and that's awesome.

00:31:34.060 But I don't think that that's what most women are doing. 1.00

00:31:35.780 And also, I talk to women every day. 1.00

00:31:37.620 Like, that's what I do.

00:31:38.280 I have a YouTube channel with 145,000 subscribers.

00:31:41.200 My female audience is growing.

00:31:42.900 And it's just because, like, I really believe in love.

00:31:44.880 But if we set really bad habits by the time we're 30, those are just really hard to break.

00:31:48.920 Your brain is more malleable the closer you, I mean, 25 years old and younger.

00:31:53.640 You know what I mean?

00:31:54.480 So, it's like, yeah, like, take your time and date.

00:31:56.700 But I wouldn't recommend just, like, freely giving your body to men. 0.99

00:31:59.360 It doesn't make any sense.

00:32:00.320 And the men that are looking for your body to be freely given to them, they're going to be on Tinder.

00:32:06.300 Yeah, I agree with that.

00:32:07.600 I don't think any of us said that we're doing that.

00:32:10.400 I didn't say that you guys said you were.

00:32:12.480 I said I talk to a lot of women every day. 1.00

00:32:14.360 And a lot of the times when we use the word dating, we're using it as a euphemism for unprotected sex.

00:32:20.340 So, what's the advice that you give these women? 1.00

00:32:22.420 You know, they come to you.

00:32:24.000 Because I don't think any of us disagree with you.

00:32:26.360 I just think you're talking real fast.

00:32:27.780 I think that, like, I'm curious to know.

00:32:32.360 So, let's, you know, I'm going to pretend that I'm a woman.

00:32:35.560 I'm coming to you.

00:32:36.320 I'm 27.

00:32:37.360 I'm on Tinder.

00:32:38.500 I probably go out on a date a week.

00:32:40.240 Sometimes go home with a guy.

00:32:41.520 Like, what's your advice for me?

00:32:43.160 Let me just interrupt really quick, but I'll have Allie come in. 1.00

00:32:45.720 Mike, thank you for the Canadian $100.

00:32:48.900 So, just a heads up for anyone who's in Canada or Australia, I don't know what the conversion is.

00:32:55.960 If you want to trigger TTS, the conversion, if it's through Super Chat, it has to be converted to $100 USD.

00:33:08.140 So, whatever that would be in Canadian, but I'll just read it now just because you probably didn't know.

00:33:12.700 So, any Streamlabs donations, if you wanted, well, it's all through Streamlabs.

00:33:16.340 So, TTS has to be triggered through, you know, the $100 USD, or if you do it on Streamlabs, it's $90 USD.

00:33:25.400 So, Mike, thank you, man.

00:33:27.260 If you act like a 304 while you're waiting for the perfect man to come along, then he may never come. 0.97

00:33:31.160 The men who do come... 1.00

00:33:32.560 Oh, shit. 1.00

00:33:34.580 Let me hide that. 0.99

00:33:35.200 I'm 100% pregnant, but I think the panel's goal is not diminishing the young girls. 0.82

00:33:41.120 These young ladies have been brainwashed by the crappy mainstream ideology for years. 1.00

00:33:46.340 I think a softer tone will be better. 0.96

00:33:48.280 Otherwise, they will be defensive.

00:33:50.540 Okay.

00:33:51.660 I see you.

00:33:52.300 Yeah, I would encourage...

00:33:53.080 I'm going to try.

00:33:53.840 I'm going to try.

00:33:54.420 I agree with that.

00:33:56.200 I would agree with that.

00:33:57.280 Yeah, so, just so y'all know, like, a little bit of my history.

00:34:00.380 Grew up in a single mother home. 1.00

00:34:01.640 I'm a survivor of child abuse.

00:34:03.240 Don't want these things for my kid.

00:34:04.680 So, I actively, like, I work against it.

00:34:06.320 I'm also a veteran.

00:34:07.260 I'm very blunt with my words.

00:34:08.800 And, like, that's also something I'm known for online.

00:34:10.900 It's just a personality thing, right?

00:34:13.080 It's like, if I want it to be mean, like, you know,

00:34:15.520 we know how girls could be mean, okay? 1.00

00:34:17.460 So, like, I promise I'm not trying to be mean.

00:34:18.680 I'm just a very direct individual.

00:34:19.920 But you said earlier what my advice would be to a woman who's on 27

00:34:23.080 and who's been on Tinder.

00:34:24.340 Like, my immediate thing is get off of Tinder.

00:34:27.080 Like, stop doing that stuff.

00:34:28.760 And also, when it comes to sexuality,

00:34:31.600 like, there's this concept of pair bonding.

00:34:33.380 So, there are promiscuous people that are happy to, like, smash and pass,

00:34:37.180 and they're cool with it.

00:34:38.180 But they're at the extremes of sociosexuality.

00:34:40.580 That's not most people.

00:34:41.620 Like, most of the men that we sleep with,

00:34:43.400 we probably want relationships with.

00:34:44.840 Do you guys, what do you guys think about that?

00:34:46.940 Right?

00:34:47.160 Like, more often.

00:34:47.940 Personally, I would agree.

00:34:48.960 Yeah.

00:34:49.400 Yeah.

00:34:49.980 Yeah.

00:34:52.560 Do you guys think that?

00:34:53.760 I agree, yeah.

00:34:54.480 Yeah.

00:34:55.000 Do you guys think that men, when they're sleeping with women,

00:34:59.560 do you think, like, most of them want relationships with the women 0.77

00:35:01.980 that they're sleeping with?

00:35:02.740 Or do you think that, you know, they're just trying to get their rocks off?

00:35:06.720 I think it's 50-50, honestly.

00:35:08.920 Okay.

00:35:09.400 What do you guys think?

00:35:10.260 What was the question?

00:35:10.940 Yeah.

00:35:11.340 Sorry, I hate it.

00:35:12.280 So, I was saying that I think that women, 1.00

00:35:14.860 because the majority of us are, per David Buss and his work,

00:35:18.060 he's, like, I think an evolutionary psychologist.

00:35:20.700 So, like, most of us are long-term mating strategists, right?

00:35:23.760 So, most of the guys that we sleep with, we probably want to date.

00:35:27.040 Do you think that most of the women,

00:35:28.820 that men who have access to women that they sleep with,

00:35:32.500 do you think that they want to date those women? 0.65

00:35:35.640 I have dated every single guy, I think, that I've slept with.

00:35:40.360 I have, like, consistently, I mean, it's not always beneficial,

00:35:43.240 but I've, like, dated around and been exclusive with every single guy that I've ever slept with.

00:35:48.060 I would say it kind of is just the kind of guy you're talking to.

00:35:52.640 Don't worry about it.

00:35:53.300 It's just kind of the guy you're talking to.

00:35:54.700 It kind of just depends what you're looking for and what kind of guy you attract or what kind of guy you go for.

00:36:00.320 Well, what do you think about, like, the guys?

00:36:01.940 Like, the guys that can sleep with women, most of the women they sleep with, you think they want to date them? 0.94

00:36:06.460 I honestly say it depends who you pick.

00:36:08.320 Like, I don't know.

00:36:08.980 I would say in my personal experience, yeah, every guy that I've ever had sex with has wanted to date me.

00:36:14.300 Okay.

00:36:14.960 Well, I mean, then you're good at, like, you're good at picking.

00:36:17.100 What do you guys think about, like, guys who have access?

00:36:18.800 No.

00:36:19.300 Most guys, they just want to, like, smash and just go.

00:36:23.000 Like, they don't care.

00:36:24.060 Like, you're just, yeah.

00:36:25.480 Yeah.

00:36:25.960 Okay.

00:36:26.260 What do you guys think?

00:36:26.860 I completely agree.

00:36:27.760 I think generally guys aren't looking for a relationship.

00:36:32.100 At our age, I think, they're really just looking to sleep around, you know.

00:36:37.080 I'm not saying that it's right.

00:36:39.180 And just because I think if we sleep with them, I don't think that we're wrong.

00:36:44.380 But I, and I think it's more of the guy's fault.

00:36:47.040 Like, a girl can be wanting to completely date a guy and sleep with them. 0.99

00:36:51.680 But that doesn't mean the same for the guy.

00:36:54.560 You, honestly, I've had, I don't want to keep saying situationships, but I've had relationships with people where I'm way more into it than the guy.

00:37:05.120 Which kind of, which is sad.

00:37:06.580 But I guess it's, I don't know.

00:37:08.300 It's whatever.

00:37:09.040 But I think guys are more looking to sleep around.

00:37:12.160 Definitely in college.

00:37:13.440 What do you think?

00:37:14.240 Yeah, I'm thinking probably 90% of single guys, sex is just, you know, a physical act that feels good.

00:37:20.000 Whereas for women, it's an emotional, me, it's a spiritual, like it's a deep thing.

00:37:25.160 It's a sacred thing.

00:37:26.060 I think it's the most intimate thing you can do with another person other than, you know, feel love for each other in a different way.

00:37:34.180 But, yeah, no, I think that the majority of dudes are not, do not value the act of sex the way that women do. 0.99

00:37:42.780 Well, that's a pretty profound thing, what you just said.

00:37:46.500 I mean.

00:37:47.540 Which part?

00:37:48.480 Well, that, what you just said.

00:37:50.180 Okay.

00:37:50.400 In terms of how you value sex, I think probably I would say even a lot of people your age would not say that.

00:38:00.120 Absolutely.

00:38:00.600 I think that our, thank you.

00:38:01.880 I think that it is so wrong in today's, not only media, but just our culture, the whole, you know, sexual freedom and sexual revolution.

00:38:11.840 Like, there's, there's certainly, you know, positive sides to what that has done.

00:38:16.440 It's, you know, I don't necessarily think slut shaming in any way is good.

00:38:20.300 I think that we live in America, which is the biggest gift any of us could have.

00:38:24.880 And we all have the freedom to do whatever we like.

00:38:27.520 But I believe that, you know, valuing yourself and your body is, gosh, more important than anything.

00:38:35.180 Yeah, yeah.

00:38:35.620 No, I'm totally with you on that.

00:38:36.880 So, like, so the problem with if we get caught up, right, in being convinced that we're short-term mating strategists,

00:38:43.500 which is, like, the small pool of men and women who can smash and pass and they're content.

00:38:47.100 If we get convinced that we're actually long-term mating strategists, like, we might end up alone from bad habits.

00:38:53.900 You see what I'm saying?

00:38:54.800 So, like, that's why I would tell that 27-year-old who says, like, I'm on the apps.

00:38:58.540 First thing, you need to get rid of it. 0.99

00:38:59.920 You need to stop having promiscuous sex, okay? 0.98

00:39:03.520 And it's because. 0.99

00:39:04.240 Hold on.

00:39:04.780 $0.99.

00:39:05.780 This Generation Z is ultra-sensitive to negative feedback. 0.99

00:39:11.440 It's a huge issue and must be changed.

00:39:13.700 Dot on this panel, I see undeveloped 18-years-old brains who are in dire need of a relationship mentor,

00:39:20.120 or it will spiral down a bad road.

00:39:22.720 Girls read David Boss Evolution of Desire. 0.98

00:39:25.480 Do you guys have a response to Stephen Crowe?

00:39:27.060 I think that our generation is extremely too sensitive.

00:39:31.880 I fully agree with that.

00:39:33.200 I feel like a lot of people can almost, hopefully, I think that everyone can agree with that.

00:39:37.660 I don't know anyone who calls our generation tough.

00:39:40.640 Yeah.

00:39:41.040 And I feel like, I'm sorry, I'm going to interrupt.

00:39:43.240 No, go ahead.

00:39:43.540 I feel like I'm getting called out because I was like, listen, I think you're being a little condescending speaking to us like this, but I am fully with you.

00:39:51.420 I totally agree, and I, you know, I can confidently say not many people in my generation could grow up in the household I grew up in.

00:40:01.080 You know, I was not beaten, but my parents were not soft on me, and I am as well a blunt individual.

00:40:06.940 So if I feel like I'm being spoken down to, I'm going to speak up to you because I totally respect you, and I think you're super smart, and I'd like to have a cordial conversation.

00:40:15.140 And I think that you're looking at us as, you know, Gen Z, who I think that I am, you know, would not morally fall into that category.

00:40:27.760 I wish I could articulate that better.

00:40:29.420 That's not correct.

00:40:30.120 But, you know, if we're going to have this conversation, I totally agree, but it's just the, you know, it's the you and them, and so I agree.

00:40:37.860 Gen Z needs to hear all this, but this panel, I think it's more of a conversation than a lecture.

00:40:44.000 Oh, yeah.

00:40:45.300 Yeah, like, I definitely, so I just graduated undergrad, too, in May.

00:40:49.640 Congratulations.

00:40:50.560 Thank you.

00:40:50.940 Yeah, I have a degree in anthropology, but I also saw, like, kind of the stuff that was going on in modern dating, and so, like, you know, you guys are just so beautiful, and if you don't figure.

00:41:04.000 Thank you.

00:41:04.800 No, I genuinely mean it, and, you know, like, being pregnant with a daughter has really made this, like, a reality check,

00:41:11.620 because I had a bias in favor of men for, like, a really long time, because I also work predominantly in men's issues,

00:41:18.280 and men have been very good to me in these last couple of years of my life, but when I found out, when I had my ultrasound,

00:41:24.640 and there wasn't any dingleberries on my baby, I was like, oh, crap, like, what are women's issues again? 1.00

00:41:29.700 And this is because I'm married to a very good man.

00:41:32.080 He treats me very well, so I've just been protected from a lot of things.

00:41:35.280 I would say for over, well, it's going to be two years soon, but I've been married for a year.

00:41:39.760 I just had my first anniversary, so now I'm, like, being faced with this stuff, and so when you guys are talking about, like,

00:41:44.920 these guys that are, like, using you, and look, like, it's a small pool of men.

00:41:48.700 We know this, right?

00:41:49.440 But when you're saying this stuff, I'm like, no, like, I don't want this for my kid, you know?

00:41:54.300 And because when you guys talk about these failed breakups and stuff, because I'm a woman, too,

00:41:59.700 so I just think about all the times that I've cried over guys, or, and I know you guys have done it, too,

00:42:05.520 like, you know, 2 a.m., like, I hate this guy, I wish he was dead, but it's just because I think we don't understand how they work, you know?

00:42:12.220 So that's all I really do, and it can sound, like, blunt and condescending, but I'm also just being faced with this,

00:42:18.680 I have to figure out the world for my baby girl, and, oh, no, she's not going to be in California.

00:42:23.440 I'm sorry, UC Santa Barb, like, no, thank you, like, we're going to stay in the Midwest, like, no, you got me messed up, no, no.

00:42:29.380 Yeah, well, so UCSB, it's frequently ranked as the number one party school in the U.S., Isla Vista, the community that surrounds it,

00:42:38.320 it's basically 20,000 college students crammed into a space less than the area of a square mile, so if, yeah, probably maybe not the most ideal place to.

00:42:49.780 No, when you're talking about your dating pool and your stats, that's not in Ivy, that's not in Santa Barbara, so.

00:42:55.620 Really quick, just big shout out to Flan Life, Andrew there, thank you for the, I think you've done, like, 40 gifted memberships so far tonight, but you did 20, so.

00:43:06.840 Thank you, Andrew, really appreciate your continued patronage week after week.

00:43:11.880 Really quick, because we didn't get to, get to you on this, kind of your relationship situation, right, we didn't get to you, did we?

00:43:19.480 No, no, we didn't, I talked a little bit about it, like, I can share more.

00:43:23.140 So in 28, I've been married for a year, also, I'm in an age gap marriage, so I just, millennial men, I'm sorry, I know you guys are in the chat,

00:43:32.700 but something is wrong with y'all, so, yeah, I'm sorry, hold on, no, Brian, I stand by it, I'm, I'm, I am a millennial.

00:43:44.420 Yes.

00:43:49.180 What's wrong with millennial men?

00:43:50.960 Um, I don't know what happened, it's, uh.

00:43:54.000 Wait, what?

00:43:54.580 I'm like, what's not?

00:43:55.760 I'm also millennial, I don't look good, but I'm 34.

00:43:58.920 Yeah, we're, you're a millennial.

00:44:00.880 Yeah, and, like, it's not to Nikki, like, there's problems with millennial women, for sure, and I was like, there's, surely, there's problems with women that are, you know, like, Gen Z women as well, like, it, it, I do equal, equal rights, equal lefts.

00:44:10.820 Um, Gen X men, oh, thank you, whatever the sound is about to be. 0.96

00:44:15.740 Oh, no, I was just, okay.

00:44:17.080 Don't worry about it.

00:44:18.140 Um, so, like, Gen X men, this is what I mean by, I'm in an age gap marriage, right?

00:44:22.040 Um, so my husband, he's 51, I'm 28.

00:44:24.660 Gen X men, they had to, well, he's got a six pack, though, so it's like a, yeah, it's bad. 1.00

00:44:28.920 It's like dating my dad, I love it.

00:44:31.100 You know, it hit different.

00:44:32.180 We got a supercar, like, it's cool, but, um.

00:44:33.980 That's awesome.

00:44:34.860 So, like.

00:44:35.740 Wait, you're 28, he's 51, you said?

00:44:37.340 So how many years is that?

00:44:39.280 In difference?

00:44:40.320 Yeah, 23.

00:44:41.480 That's, my dad's 51.

00:44:43.140 Let's do the math, chat.

00:44:43.940 Yeah, but it's like, I'm not dating my dad, though, you know what I mean?

00:44:46.080 How old is your dad?

00:44:47.260 I, well, I don't really have one girl, so.

00:44:49.460 Oh, yeah, she said that, Stella.

00:44:51.160 I'm sorry, no, no, no.

00:44:53.160 No, you'll see, you'll see, right?

00:44:54.840 Okay, so, like, I'm 28 and he's 51, right?

00:44:57.620 So, like, when I am 50 and he's 70, is anybody gonna care?

00:45:02.360 No, not at all.

00:45:03.300 Yeah, you know what I mean?

00:45:04.440 Like, nobody, like, because I'm young now, a lot of people care and they think, like,

00:45:07.260 oh, like, you've been groomed or blah, blah, blah, but I started dating him when I was 25,

00:45:10.680 right?

00:45:11.320 So, like, my point about, like, Gen X men versus millennial men.

00:45:14.340 Millennial men have, like, bought into this equality stuff where they, you know.

00:45:17.980 Sorry, hold on.

00:45:18.600 High-value men donated $100.

00:45:20.160 Yo, thank you, man, appreciate it.

00:45:21.240 These college-aged women are the children of feminism and failed ideology that is now causing 1.00

00:45:25.900 the destruction of Western civilization.

00:45:28.500 As I stated in a previous episode, older slash wiser women used to keep younger, more naive. 0.99

00:45:34.700 Women in check. 1.00

00:45:35.900 Thank you, Alan.

00:45:37.880 All right, the chat's on fire tonight.

00:45:41.320 You're welcome, high-value men.

00:45:43.940 However, like, checking women, you know, they're not going to listen if you anger them. 0.96

00:45:47.840 So, you have to, like, talk to them with empathy.

00:45:49.300 I know this is shocking, but, so, like, millennial men, for some reason, they bought into this 0.91

00:45:55.120 nonsense about, like, gender equality and, yeah, you know, I can have these more feminine 1.00

00:45:59.300 traits.

00:46:00.100 No, thank you.

00:46:00.900 So, Gen X men, they had to run game. 0.99

00:46:02.660 They had to know game.

00:46:04.040 And if you go look at, like, old 80s movies, there was, like, the jock and their cheerleader.

00:46:08.560 They were, like, masculine and feminine.

00:46:10.400 And so, like, these dudes, they had to get your number and you had to call and then you had

00:46:14.980 to make plans and then you got rejected in person.

00:46:18.160 I don't know what's going on with, like, the social media and the swipes.

00:46:21.340 These dudes have, like, no game, right?

00:46:23.020 Now, women, like, we don't have game either because, you know, what the men tell me about, 1.00

00:46:26.120 like, modern game, they say, like, we suck at conversation.

00:46:30.140 Yeah, most of us are pretty personality-less, I'd have to say.

00:46:33.920 And I totally agree.

00:46:35.460 You know, back in the day, dudes had to be a dude, be a man.

00:46:38.200 But, you know, there's just, like, I mean, you've got all your numbers and I'm blanking

00:46:44.280 on mine.

00:46:44.820 But the levels of testosterone in men today versus in men 60 years ago are insanely different.

00:46:51.560 And that's not, you know, just your fault.

00:46:53.820 America's, you know, food system is just an absolute joke. 0.79

00:46:57.900 And we are just eating garbage our whole life and everything's made out of soy.

00:47:02.500 And it's not really to their fault. 0.84

00:47:04.260 And I don't want to be like, oh, screw the government.

00:47:06.960 But, you know, there is a serious, like, biological lack there.

00:47:12.220 So, men today are half as fertile as their grandfathers.

00:47:15.880 Like, the same thing's happening to women, right? 1.00

00:47:18.180 But it's like the testosterone is dropping.

00:47:20.880 Sperm count is dropping.

00:47:22.580 So, like, we can look at environmental things.

00:47:24.500 But, I mean, I'm more on the romantic side of things when it comes to, like, I do want

00:47:28.100 a masculine man that I look up to, which means I don't necessarily want to be equal to my

00:47:31.880 husband, you know?

00:47:32.460 And so, like, that's why I ended up dating older.

00:47:36.100 And that's why I ended up marrying older.

00:47:37.980 I just, I don't think that, I think there's a very small pool of masculine millennial men.

00:47:44.940 And I think competition would have been probably really hard for me.

00:47:47.700 I don't even know the kind of women that they would have married. 0.87

00:47:49.740 Probably more on the traditional side of things for those men that were willing to get married.

00:47:53.620 But my husband has shared some stories as well.

00:47:55.620 Like, he just couldn't say no to women until he was, like, 35.

00:47:59.400 You know what I mean?

00:47:59.960 So, I think sometimes it is beneficial to go older.

00:48:03.740 So, like, don't forget that part.

00:48:05.060 But age gaps to you guys, like, don't, you know, 23 years is a lot, okay?

00:48:08.200 But, like, an age gap to y'all could be, like, four to seven years, you know?

00:48:11.760 And, like, just don't forget that you don't have to just date the guys your age.

00:48:15.880 Well, I think that's so normalized now, like, dating someone older than you.

00:48:19.800 Like, I don't think that that's any bit off.

00:48:23.080 The guy that you're dating is 20-something years older than you.

00:48:25.920 I know this is a little bit weird because it was a long time ago.

00:48:28.980 But my grandma is dating someone, I want to say, 30 years younger than her.

00:48:34.000 And they've been together for, like, 10 years now. 0.99

00:48:35.980 And at first, like, when I was young hearing that, I'm like, what the fuck? 0.99

00:48:38.640 But now I'm like, okay, it's a little bit more normal. 0.95

00:48:40.660 And, like, growing up, I also dated older guys, so I don't think that there's anything weird about that at all.

00:48:45.760 Really quick on this.

00:48:47.080 So what's the oldest guy that you've dated?

00:48:50.100 I want to say he was probably, like, 20, but I was, like, 16 at the time.

00:48:56.820 So that was a little bit of a weird situation.

00:48:59.540 That was weird.

00:49:00.380 I'm not going to validate that.

00:49:02.900 But that's grooming a little bit.

00:49:05.040 No, yeah, that was weird.

00:49:06.360 But you asked the oldest guy I dated.

00:49:08.160 Right now I'm dating someone that's two years older than me.

00:49:10.420 So he's about to be 20.

00:49:12.240 That's pretty standard.

00:49:13.620 I don't think that's weird.

00:49:14.780 You said you were 16 and he was 20?

00:49:17.060 Yeah, I feel like it's weird because I was 16, though.

00:49:19.520 Yeah, well, like, the truth.

00:49:20.920 In California, there's laws. 0.98

00:49:22.260 Yeah, well, if it's within four years and it's consensual, it's legal.

00:49:26.340 So that was legal.

00:49:27.000 Oh, like Romeo and Juliet thing?

00:49:28.520 Yeah.

00:49:28.820 If he's, you know, I think, I want to say, as long as the younger party is above 14 in California, they can date to 18.

00:49:40.160 And then I think if you're 15, you can date 19.

00:49:42.600 I could be wrong there.

00:49:44.260 Don't quote me on that.

00:49:45.140 But I think that there is a law there that until you're 18, you can date up to four years older than you.

00:49:49.260 I think just honestly just wait until 21 to even hold hands.

00:49:52.640 Anyways, okay, joking, joking.

00:49:56.620 Okay, really quick.

00:49:58.220 So we have Flan Life here who donated 50 memberships.

00:50:03.380 50 memberships triggers a fit check.

00:50:07.720 We got to get a fit check on everybody.

00:50:09.640 So if we can have everyone stand up, do a little fit check, you know.

00:50:12.620 On my outfit.

00:50:15.980 But we'd just be sitting, so.

00:50:18.360 Yeah, the sweaties.

00:50:19.920 Yeah, you guys can do a little spin.

00:50:22.640 A little turn.

00:50:25.380 Okay.

00:50:26.140 Well, you don't, yeah.

00:50:27.000 And then.

00:50:27.180 I mean, you know.

00:50:28.080 Live the belly.

00:50:29.780 Yeah, I mean.

00:50:30.360 Which is good.

00:50:30.820 Do a spin.

00:50:31.660 Oh, you want like a maternity spin? 1.00

00:50:33.320 Yes.

00:50:34.440 Maternity spin. 0.98

00:50:36.280 All right.

00:50:37.340 I'm making life.

00:50:38.640 No, we sound so sorry.

00:50:40.100 Okay, yo, Flan Life.

00:50:41.380 Really appreciate you, man.

00:50:42.300 Thank you.

00:50:43.260 Thank you.

00:50:44.200 Okay, so.

00:50:47.380 I'm trying to kind of recall where we were kind of heading.

00:50:51.120 Before we got into all that.

00:50:53.460 I'm talking about childlessness.

00:50:54.460 That's fun.

00:50:55.400 What branch of the military were you in?

00:50:58.060 I was in the army.

00:50:59.920 The army?

00:51:00.580 Yeah.

00:51:01.100 Thank you for your service.

00:51:02.360 Oh, thank you.

00:51:03.240 Thank you for your service.

00:51:04.480 Did your parents raise you like on the conservative side of things?

00:51:07.180 Yes.

00:51:07.800 Oh.

00:51:08.360 Sis, up top.

00:51:09.260 Come to Kansas.

00:51:10.100 That's where I'm from.

00:51:10.580 I'm going to move to Nashville or Tennessee once I graduate.

00:51:15.740 Oh, thank God.

00:51:16.360 Like, I've been hearing good things about the men in Tennessee.

00:51:19.040 Like, please.

00:51:20.320 California.

00:51:21.120 Like, it's not it.

00:51:21.860 But, yes, I was an active duty army.

00:51:23.600 Sorry, Brian.

00:51:25.460 Millennials.

00:51:25.980 You don't like the millennials, the California guys.

00:51:28.660 I'm just.

00:51:30.180 It's tough.

00:51:30.640 I call, like I see it.

00:51:31.540 I want a lumberjack. 0.93

00:51:32.660 Okay.

00:51:32.940 But I'm also willing to be, like, that soft, demure woman to that lumberjack because we

00:51:38.200 can't have two lumberjacks in that house. 1.00

00:51:40.020 Like, that's not going to work.

00:51:41.340 Eric, get me the red flannel.

00:51:43.320 No, I'm kidding.

00:51:46.120 Yeah, that was an interesting time in my life serving.

00:51:48.780 And all the gender equality stuff is actually very damaging for women and disabling them. 1.00

00:51:53.420 And I wish that the United.

00:51:54.420 Hi, Joe Biden.

00:51:55.300 If you could, like, stop pushing gender equality for physical demands in the military, that would 1.00

00:52:00.740 be great.

00:52:01.380 It's, like, my hips are shot for the rest of my life and I'm not the only woman.

00:52:05.020 There's other women, too. 1.00

00:52:06.180 This is nonsense and this is stupid. 1.00

00:52:07.920 So, maybe he'll, like, see this. 1.00

00:52:09.900 I'm not sure.

00:52:10.520 Whatever.

00:52:11.720 Maybe Joe Biden will.

00:52:13.260 Okay, so.

00:52:14.000 Joe Biden's watching this.

00:52:15.480 Joe Biden's watching this.

00:52:17.080 He watches the sugar podcast.

00:52:20.060 Have any of you ever had a sugar daddy or had an offer of a sugar daddy?

00:52:25.920 Yes.

00:52:26.280 Start here.

00:52:27.200 I mean, I feel like everyone's gotten, like, an offer.

00:52:29.300 I've never actually done anything, though.

00:52:32.040 Same.

00:52:32.640 I've gotten those weird DMs from those fake Instagram accounts, but never.

00:52:36.400 I've never actually replied to them.

00:52:40.080 No sugar daddies over here.

00:52:44.020 I haven't.

00:52:45.760 I'm not going to say I had a sugar daddy.

00:52:47.220 But, like, kind of.

00:52:50.900 Like, I've had an account.

00:52:52.380 Like, of course, I've gotten the text.

00:52:54.400 But, like.

00:52:56.200 Yeah.

00:52:56.980 So, like, I've gone.

00:52:58.820 We can go around and I'll explain it when everyone's done if we want.

00:53:02.920 I've gotten those weird DMs, but just, no.

00:53:06.840 No.

00:53:07.120 I can't think of a cheaper thing.

00:53:10.460 Like, no.

00:53:10.880 I'm sorry.

00:53:11.380 I'd rather just have, like, the ring, the health insurance, dental insurance, and babies.

00:53:14.540 You know, like, I'm good.

00:53:15.360 Like, I can pay my own bills.

00:53:17.860 Wait, question.

00:53:18.500 So, you have a kid, right?

00:53:19.360 You have a son?

00:53:20.320 I do.

00:53:20.540 I have a son.

00:53:21.020 How old is he?

00:53:21.600 He's four.

00:53:22.420 Do you want to have more kids?

00:53:23.660 I did.

00:53:25.000 I did when I was married, but.

00:53:26.940 Now, now?

00:53:27.700 Oh, well, I mean, I haven't found anyone to be in a committed relationship with.

00:53:31.020 Well, if you did, would you want to have more kids?

00:53:32.640 If I did, I definitely would, yeah.

00:53:33.560 Okay.

00:53:34.160 What was your thing about the sugar daddy?

00:53:36.360 So, I'm going to agree with you 100%.

00:53:38.420 It's really cheap.

00:53:40.480 Foodie calls?

00:53:41.140 Is that where this is going?

00:53:42.320 What was it?

00:53:42.860 You did foodie calls?

00:53:44.640 No.

00:53:45.300 Foodie calls?

00:53:45.860 Is that when you go get food and you get paid and kind of.

00:53:47.840 A foodie call basically is, like, you're going on a date with a guy.

00:53:50.960 A guy obviously assuming he's going to pay for the date, but you don't really have any

00:53:54.700 genuine intention.

00:53:56.640 It could just also be, like, he invited you to the event.

00:53:58.700 He's going to pay for it, but you don't have any interest in actually pursuing.

00:54:03.080 Well, I wouldn't say, like, kind of, yeah, but it was, like, the guy paid me to go on

00:54:07.160 the date with him, and I see that as a 16-year-old, and I'm, like, hell, yeah, and I go, and

00:54:12.260 then, you know, I'm, like, as I grew older, I'm, like, okay, like, I'm going to just

00:54:15.680 get a job now, you know, so.

00:54:17.300 Wait, he paid you to go on a date with him?

00:54:19.560 Yeah.

00:54:19.780 How much did he pay you?

00:54:21.540 $500.

00:54:23.060 How old was this guy?

00:54:24.840 He was pretty old.

00:54:25.800 Like, he had gray hair.

00:54:26.720 Like, he's big.

00:54:27.080 How old were you?

00:54:28.480 I was 16.

00:54:29.820 Bruv.

00:54:30.660 This was in California?

00:54:32.140 Yeah, I had a friend.

00:54:33.440 Yikes.

00:54:33.520 I was safe.

00:54:34.300 I had a friend who came and watched me.

00:54:36.220 Wait, who was the friend?

00:54:37.100 A woman? 0.80

00:54:37.760 No.

00:54:38.620 Who, what, how, she can't protect you?

00:54:40.820 Who is she? 0.99

00:54:41.200 She can't throw him.

00:54:41.680 We were in a public space.

00:54:43.500 It wasn't, I never went anywhere.

00:54:45.380 It was a public space.

00:54:47.560 I made sure to be as safe as possible that you can be going on a date with an old man. 1.00

00:54:51.240 But it's just like Tinder, if you really think about it.

00:54:52.860 I mean, it's like, you're going on a date with a random man.

00:54:54.940 So, I mean.

00:54:56.080 Yeah, but, like, getting, you know, chopped into pieces, like, that's real.

00:54:59.220 In the middle of a restaurant? 0.98

00:55:00.480 Girl, people are crazy.

00:55:01.700 Like, you got me messed up. 0.97

00:55:02.660 I heard San Diego's bad.

00:55:03.880 Is that true?

00:55:04.360 Well, you could, yeah, it is.

00:55:05.200 There's sketch parts.

00:55:06.380 But, you know, I mean, you could get chopped up on a Tinder date in the middle of nowhere,

00:55:09.620 you know?

00:55:09.880 So, what if the guy's older?

00:55:10.680 That's why we shouldn't be on Tinder.

00:55:11.760 Yeah.

00:55:12.380 Yeah, I've never had a date with you.

00:55:13.900 Yeah, there's certainly.

00:55:15.080 There's some weirdos on Hinge, too, though.

00:55:15.820 Huh?

00:55:16.100 There's some weirdos on Hinge, too.

00:55:17.660 Yeah, like, Hinge, you have to use strategically.

00:55:20.340 You have to get, like, a professional photo shoot.

00:55:21.880 And you have to be, like, conversational and cute and witty and the prompts.

00:55:24.460 And if you don't do that, like, you're just, yeah.

00:55:26.280 Have you had Hinge?

00:55:27.700 I've helped clients with Hinge.

00:55:29.700 Okay.

00:55:30.040 Yeah, like, it can be well done, you know?

00:55:32.180 Hold on, guys.

00:55:32.700 Ten out of ten super chatted, $100.

00:55:35.260 Thank you, man.

00:55:35.660 Appreciate it.

00:55:35.980 Well done.

00:55:37.140 Brian, for getting Pearl's spirit animal, shout out to just pearly things.

00:55:41.960 On the show, something like 75% of Americans are obese or overweight.

00:55:46.880 But you always manage to find good-looking women in our body positivity country. 1.00

00:55:51.900 Maybe there's hope after all.

00:55:53.600 You know, there's a high concentration of attractive women in Santa Barbara. 1.00

00:56:00.040 What can I say?

00:56:01.340 What can I say?

00:56:02.120 But, you know, ten out of ten.

00:56:03.200 Thank you, man.

00:56:03.560 Appreciate it.

00:56:04.300 The only thing that's good about California is, like, thin women. 1.00

00:56:07.120 Like, that's it.

00:56:07.940 Like, that's everything else.

00:56:08.760 True.

00:56:09.400 And the beach.

00:56:10.700 Don't forget about the beach.

00:56:12.700 Weather.

00:56:13.300 I think it's cold.

00:56:14.000 I don't know.

00:56:14.760 It's warmer here than anywhere else.

00:56:17.340 I'm from Florida.

00:56:18.400 Oh, okay.

00:56:19.340 I take that back.

00:56:20.260 I take that back.

00:56:20.940 That's different.

00:56:21.760 Number one, I like. 0.99

00:56:22.240 Am I stupid, or did I? 0.97

00:56:23.680 I didn't understand what that just meant. 0.99

00:56:26.040 That all of us are.

00:56:26.860 It might be because of the first thing that you just said.

00:56:32.300 What?

00:56:32.960 Oh, my God.

00:56:33.680 Okay, hold on.

00:56:34.760 I'm getting mad at you just screaming.

00:56:36.800 It's all good.

00:56:38.500 So, you didn't understand the ten out of ten.

00:56:41.060 Well, he's saying that he was basically, I guess, complimenting me for not having obesity.

00:56:47.900 Yeah.

00:56:48.300 Yeah.

00:56:49.080 Yeah.

00:56:49.520 Yeah.

00:56:49.920 That was funny. 0.99

00:56:50.880 I mean, you guys know that there's, like, this country's full of fat chicks, right? 1.00

00:56:54.660 Like, y'all know this, right? 0.98

00:56:56.220 Yeah.

00:56:56.400 Yeah.

00:56:57.120 Yeah.

00:56:57.640 Yeah.

00:56:57.840 Yeah.

00:56:58.240 Yeah.

00:56:58.680 Yeah.

00:56:59.080 Yeah. 0.78

00:56:59.280 And, I mean, there's, like, fat men, too.

00:57:00.700 But, statistically, like, women are getting fatter faster. 1.00

00:57:03.620 Like, yeah.

00:57:04.240 I think it has to do with hormones.

00:57:05.280 Thank you very much.

00:57:05.900 Yeah.

00:57:06.440 But, um.

00:57:07.420 It does.

00:57:08.200 And body positivity.

00:57:09.620 Yeah.

00:57:09.760 And, again, our food in America, which is a huge pressing problem.

00:57:14.080 And, our sickness.

00:57:16.080 What was that?

00:57:16.880 Lizzo, too.

00:57:17.820 Like, the audience hates her.

00:57:19.100 Like, why? 0.99

00:57:20.200 They want her to die.

00:57:21.640 It's not nice. 0.73

00:57:26.000 But, yes. 0.81

00:57:26.800 So, they make these jokes because a lot of, like, fat women, they still want dudes with 1.00

00:57:30.100 six packs.

00:57:30.640 And, it's like, in what world?

00:57:32.640 In what planet does that make sense? 0.98

00:57:34.540 A whole clown. 0.95

00:57:35.500 So, yeah. 0.95

00:57:36.360 What are you thinking right now, Wren?

00:57:38.340 What's going through your mind?

00:57:40.300 Does it show?

00:57:41.860 Does what show?

00:57:42.920 Wait.

00:57:43.040 I don't know.

00:57:43.940 I just, like.

00:57:45.020 What?

00:57:45.760 I'm just thinking, like.

00:57:48.640 I don't know.

00:57:49.680 Nothing's going on in my mind.

00:57:53.680 No, I'm just thinking, like.

00:57:54.700 I was just.

00:57:55.160 I just didn't understand.

00:57:56.460 I was just listening about the Lizzo thing.

00:57:58.000 I was like, oh.

00:57:58.520 Okay.

00:57:58.820 Like, that's it.

00:57:59.740 Okay.

00:58:00.440 Well, what do you think about the body positivity movement?

00:58:03.000 You didn't really say anything.

00:58:04.380 Oh.

00:58:05.180 I guess, like.

00:58:06.600 I guess I'm not, like, all here right now.

00:58:08.540 Okay.

00:58:08.740 Well, like.

00:58:09.520 The body positivity thing.

00:58:11.080 Like.

00:58:11.140 What did you guys say about it?

00:58:13.480 Like, I don't understand.

00:58:14.100 Well, what's your opinion?

00:58:15.140 That's what we want to know.

00:58:16.700 I just think, like.

00:58:18.500 Like.

00:58:19.040 It's, it's like body positivity to a certain extent.

00:58:21.320 Like, how you're shaped.

00:58:22.380 And, like.

00:58:22.820 Like, like, cellulite.

00:58:24.800 Stuff that you can't control.

00:58:26.480 But, like.

00:58:27.600 When it gets too bad.

00:58:29.280 There's, like.

00:58:29.780 There is kind of an extent there.

00:58:31.240 Like, my 600 pound life is, like.

00:58:33.480 It's not good to have that as entertainment.

00:58:38.300 Adding on to that.

00:58:39.280 I think it's harmful to be.

00:58:42.460 What's the word?

00:58:44.440 Praising.

00:58:45.880 Super unhealthy.

00:58:47.680 Obesity.

00:58:48.040 I think it's unhealthy.

00:58:50.240 Yep.

00:58:50.620 People saying, like.

00:58:51.880 I'm kind of referring to TikTok, I guess.

00:58:54.120 Sure.

00:58:54.320 Something like that.

00:58:56.120 People saying, like.

00:58:57.020 Oh, you're beautiful.

00:58:58.140 I mean.

00:58:59.460 Obviously, every.

00:59:00.760 Great.

00:59:01.080 Like, everyone's beautiful.

00:59:02.260 Yes.

00:59:02.700 But I don't think.

00:59:03.460 Girl, no. 0.99

00:59:04.200 Girl, no. 0.99

00:59:04.720 Don't play me.

00:59:05.500 Like, go to an art museum.

00:59:06.680 On the inside.

00:59:07.080 Sure.

00:59:07.880 Yeah.

00:59:08.360 On the inside.

00:59:08.880 I have met some, like, sweet fat chicks. 1.00

00:59:10.960 But, like.

00:59:11.260 On the inside, though.

00:59:12.680 They're normally the funniest, too.

00:59:14.680 Yeah.

00:59:14.900 You have to be funny.

00:59:16.140 Is this TOS?

00:59:17.860 Any mods in the chat?

00:59:18.920 Is this a TOS conversation?

00:59:21.280 Oh, no.

00:59:21.840 I think.

00:59:22.300 Is that amazing?

00:59:22.980 What is it?

00:59:23.620 Pearl's the only channel, for some reason, that she can't say fat on.

00:59:27.160 I don't know why.

00:59:28.080 She's not allowed to say it on her channel anymore.

00:59:30.680 What are you laughing at, Rin?

00:59:32.520 Somebody said, for real, though.

00:59:33.760 Is Rin cooked right now?

00:59:36.460 I mean, it's Callie.

00:59:37.420 Are you?

00:59:38.160 Yeah.

00:59:39.560 Confirm.

00:59:40.320 Confirm or deny.

00:59:42.460 Deny?

00:59:43.080 I'm not lying.

00:59:44.260 Not cooked.

00:59:44.900 Yes, the body positivity is for sure, guys.

00:59:47.380 Whoever said that in the chat.

00:59:48.480 Yup.

00:59:49.980 Question.

00:59:51.340 Do I do it?

00:59:52.920 Okay. 0.97

00:59:53.620 Have you guys ever used the term big dick energy? 0.99

00:59:56.780 Or small dick energy? 0.99

00:59:58.380 Yes. 0.99

00:59:59.000 Yes.

01:00:00.760 Abhorrent.

01:00:02.060 Abhorrent.

01:00:02.740 How dare you?

01:00:03.780 I'm offended.

01:00:05.000 Why?

01:00:06.340 What about small booby energy?

01:00:08.280 I'll use it towards anything.

01:00:09.820 I'll use it towards a girl. 0.85

01:00:11.120 Like, Lindsay gets up and, like, does something manly. 0.99

01:00:13.220 I'm like, big dick energy. 0.95

01:00:14.980 Like, it's not manly things all the time. 0.99

01:00:17.520 Well, yeah.

01:00:18.180 Lindsay was just my first example because she's right next to me.

01:00:20.360 But it could be anything. 0.90

01:00:21.780 Like, my car is, like, big dick energy or something. 0.99

01:00:24.860 Your car is big dick energy? 0.99

01:00:26.940 That was just, like, an example. 0.99

01:00:28.480 Yeah.

01:00:29.120 Okay.

01:00:29.400 But, like, here's my thing.

01:00:30.620 Like, what if, like, dudes came out and said small tit energy?

01:00:33.160 Would it be okay?

01:00:33.880 Here's a better one.

01:00:34.820 Here's a better one.

01:00:35.760 Well, first off, let me just go around the table really quick.

01:00:38.700 So, just show of hands, actually.

01:00:41.560 Actually, let's do it like this. 0.95

01:00:43.220 Have you ever used the term big dick energy or small dick energy? 0.98

01:00:45.860 Show of hands. 0.98

01:00:47.560 Like, unironically?

01:00:50.300 Ironically.

01:00:51.440 Figuratively.

01:00:51.840 Yeah, I've said it.

01:00:52.100 Literally.

01:00:52.940 I've said it.

01:00:54.120 Rin? 0.98

01:00:54.880 Our dog?

01:00:55.400 No, I haven't.

01:00:55.860 What's your nickname?

01:00:57.360 Hmm?

01:00:57.660 Huh?

01:00:58.100 Hmm?

01:00:58.680 Hmm?

01:00:59.780 Oh.

01:01:02.100 What?

01:01:02.400 Do you have a nickname?

01:01:03.720 My nickname?

01:01:04.640 Yeah.

01:01:05.080 Your name's Rin, right?

01:01:06.240 Yeah.

01:01:06.720 What's your nickname?

01:01:08.380 Rin.

01:01:09.400 Okay.

01:01:09.980 That's a good one.

01:01:11.840 Okay.

01:01:12.400 So, have you ever used the term?

01:01:14.720 No.

01:01:15.360 Oh, okay.

01:01:16.240 So, what do you think?

01:01:20.640 And I guess imagine those times where you did say, hmm, how do I want to frame this? 0.99

01:01:27.100 Rin, you have loose pussy energy. 1.00

01:01:33.580 Yeah. 1.00

01:01:34.760 I would say that too. 1.00

01:01:36.100 You would say loose pussy energy? 1.00

01:01:37.240 I told my dad the other day that he was growing a vagina because he was being lame. 1.00

01:01:41.140 You know, like, I have, once again, though, my dad was in the Navy. 0.99

01:01:44.420 Like, I have a foul mouth.

01:01:46.020 Like, I have a sailor's mouth. 1.00

01:01:47.580 Like, my first word was probably fuck, you know? 0.99

01:01:50.680 Yeah, that's fair. 0.99

01:01:51.580 It's just, I would say I have no filter.

01:01:53.900 I'm more of an offensive person.

01:01:55.580 I get what you're saying, kind of, but it goes both ways.

01:01:57.920 Like, I'll be offensive towards the female gender as well. 0.63

01:02:01.140 It's not just, you know?

01:02:02.840 I mean, I don't think it's, like, once again, like, you're super sensitive if you think saying 0.95

01:02:06.440 big dick or small dick energy is, like, you know, and then you turn around and you 0.99

01:02:10.220 get offensive if someone says loose pussy energy. 1.00

01:02:12.120 Okay, then don't say big dick energy. 1.00

01:02:13.340 Like, I get what you're saying. 0.99

01:02:14.420 I guess the point I'm trying to make is, is that big dick energy, small dick energy 0.98

01:02:18.320 is so kind of almost accepted term and, like, people don't really give it a second thought. 0.99

01:02:22.780 But if a guy were to drop loose pussy energy in casual conversation, you'd be like, um, 0.99

01:02:29.940 excuse, like, a lot of girls would probably, like, not be cool with that, you know? 0.99

01:02:33.540 Well, that's what I was saying.

01:02:34.740 The generation is very soft.

01:02:36.580 This is really funny.

01:02:37.360 Like... 1.00

01:02:37.980 By the way, you don't have loose pussy energy. 1.00

01:02:39.720 I was just... 1.00

01:02:40.280 Oh, I know.

01:02:40.740 I saw it in the chat.

01:02:41.680 You said it.

01:02:42.080 I was like, oh, you're saying it.

01:02:42.440 You already said it. 1.00

01:02:43.460 No, I heard some people say, um, I've heard, like, guys be like, she has, like, toxic pussy. 1.00

01:02:48.600 I've heard people say that. 1.00

01:02:49.740 Wait, they've told you that about your pussy? 1.00

01:02:52.020 No, not me. 1.00

01:02:52.040 Not me, but, like, I've heard people, like, it's kind of like, you know, like, big dick 0.98

01:02:56.440 energy. 0.99

01:02:56.720 Like, oh, he has big dick energy. 1.00

01:02:57.600 Like, I know some guys go, like, that girl, I bet she has toxic pussy. 1.00

01:03:01.380 What is toxic pussy? 1.00

01:03:03.220 Yeah, like, that's what they say. 1.00

01:03:04.520 Like, it's...

01:03:05.220 Like, some meow meow to simp over?

01:03:06.620 Like, ruin your life meow meow?

01:03:07.940 Mm-hmm.

01:03:08.320 I guess.

01:03:09.180 Yeah.

01:03:09.580 Like, that's, yeah. 1.00

01:03:10.660 Toxic pussy. 1.00

01:03:10.980 Oh, okay. 1.00

01:03:11.740 Like, I mean, I think I've heard, like, Kung Fu Grip.

01:03:13.820 So, like, I think I've heard...

01:03:14.520 Gorilla Grip.

01:03:15.280 I've heard that one.

01:03:16.340 Yeah.

01:03:16.880 Okay.

01:03:17.520 So, do you...

01:03:18.180 Are you... 1.00

01:03:18.820 You got toxic pussy? 1.00

01:03:19.700 What is it? 1.00

01:03:20.320 Huh?

01:03:22.380 I've, like, asked them.

01:03:23.400 I was, like, does it look like I have it?

01:03:24.720 And they're, like, no.

01:03:26.920 I'm just, like...

01:03:27.420 Don't...

01:03:27.740 I would not, like, ask men that question.

01:03:29.880 Yeah.

01:03:30.180 Like, I would just...

01:03:30.860 I wouldn't do that, no.

01:03:32.580 Because it just, like, it opens up to, like, some really weird stuff.

01:03:35.500 But, like, y'all don't think it's weird that, you know, we can say things like small

01:03:39.120 dick energy, but if, like, dudes can't say small tit energy...

01:03:42.120 I feel like they do.

01:03:43.460 I feel like that doesn't make sense.

01:03:44.780 It's not a term.

01:03:45.320 No.

01:03:45.800 It's not really, like, used.

01:03:46.400 It's not, like, a thing.

01:03:47.180 But I think women... 1.00

01:03:48.260 I have a theory. 0.98

01:03:49.180 I think women made the word big dick energy because I can't imagine dudes, like, sitting 1.00

01:03:52.860 around, like, what's the cool phrase to describe my confidence? 0.99

01:03:57.600 Big dick energy. 0.98

01:03:58.840 There's no way a man came up with that. 0.99

01:04:00.340 Like, I think we did that.

01:04:02.240 That's just my theory.

01:04:03.140 I don't know.

01:04:03.740 I think so. 0.85

01:04:04.620 Are you toxic, though? 0.98

01:04:05.980 Am I toxic? 1.00

01:04:06.620 Are you toxic? 0.99

01:04:08.000 That was advocate. 0.99

01:04:09.880 I'm toxic if you're toxic first.

01:04:13.440 Have you ever slashed a guy's tires? 0.58

01:04:15.640 No.

01:04:16.560 No.

01:04:16.860 Tire slashing?

01:04:17.840 No.

01:04:18.340 No.

01:04:19.100 No.

01:04:19.840 I've thought about it.

01:04:20.760 You've thought about it?

01:04:21.460 Yeah, I've thought about it.

01:04:23.680 Okay.

01:04:25.040 All right.

01:04:25.360 Let me get a couple Super Chats here.

01:04:27.220 All right, guys.

01:04:28.020 Just a little reminder.

01:04:30.020 We did adjust the Super Chat and donation triggers.

01:04:34.020 So it's $50 and up.

01:04:35.420 Just I want to keep the show moving.

01:04:36.880 And then it's $100 and up.

01:04:38.540 That triggers TTS, text-to-speech.

01:04:41.400 Also, if you donate through Streamlabs, streamlabs.com slash whatever, it's a little bit lower, 45 plus to read and 90 plus to trigger TTS if you do it through Streamlabs donations.

01:04:52.560 So thank you, guys.

01:04:53.400 All right.

01:04:53.600 We'll do this one.

01:04:54.680 By the way, are you guys cold?

01:04:56.480 Yeah.

01:04:57.020 Eric, can you grab that cover that's over there and just give it to the girls? 1.00

01:05:00.320 It's over by the couch somewhere.

01:05:07.600 Yeah, the little blanket.

01:05:08.740 If you guys want to drape that along your legs. 0.99

01:05:12.240 It's like yellow or some shit. 0.99

01:05:14.500 Can I say something really quick? 0.87

01:05:16.360 Yeah, what's up? 1.00

01:05:16.940 Someone in the chat said that I don't respect my dad for saying that he has a vagina. 0.99

01:05:21.380 I fully, 100% respect my dad. 0.99

01:05:24.620 Rin.

01:05:24.800 We just have a very no-filter relationship.

01:05:28.980 That's just the way it is.

01:05:30.300 So I do respect my dad.

01:05:32.000 That's all.

01:05:33.540 Yeah.

01:05:34.200 I mean, I'm going to be honest.

01:05:35.860 Like, I am a veteran.

01:05:37.480 My husband's in the military.

01:05:39.000 Like, you know, our household, pretty big on the profanity there.

01:05:43.280 But, like, people wouldn't understand it in the culture.

01:05:46.180 It's just like you were raised by a single dad.

01:05:48.140 So I think, like, you're going to have, you know, more masculine personality traits and things like that.

01:05:52.600 Yeah, for sure.

01:05:53.540 Which is, like, it can be a problem if you're trying to, like, you know, end up with a total lumberjack.

01:05:57.940 But, you know, yeah.

01:05:59.360 But she kind of has.

01:05:59.860 It is.

01:06:00.260 Yeah, I have.

01:06:00.880 My boyfriend's a firefighter.

01:06:02.260 He's super hot.

01:06:03.520 Well, I mean, you should be teaching women then.

01:06:05.600 If you've been together with a firefighter for two years, like, you need to share your secrets.

01:06:08.880 He's awesome.

01:06:09.740 I love him so much.

01:06:11.480 But I will also say your boyfriend is really freaking awesome.

01:06:16.060 And I think that he treats you really well.

01:06:18.020 And I don't know his family, but from what you say, he was raised, like, really properly.

01:06:22.620 And he treats you like a princess.

01:06:23.880 And, you know, you treat him like a man and it works out well.

01:06:26.780 And I think that's a two-way street.

01:06:28.300 You know, it's hard for women to be nurturing and loving when they're forced to, oh, my, I don't want to say, like, go work and be the man.

01:06:39.340 Because I love working.

01:06:40.420 I work.

01:06:40.900 Like, I think I'll always work.

01:06:42.660 But, you know, he supports you like that emotionally.

01:06:46.460 And so I think he fills that perfectly.

01:06:49.960 All right.

01:06:50.420 By the way, Flynn Life, thanks for the subs.

01:06:51.980 All right.

01:06:52.120 Let's get these super chats really quick.

01:06:54.520 So Stifler, ask the ladies to rate their looks on a scale of one to ten. 0.99

01:06:57.900 We're going to go around the table on this.

01:06:59.620 Go ahead.

01:07:10.460 One eternity later.

01:07:12.760 It's like, I'm going first.

01:07:14.040 I have no time to think.

01:07:16.080 Um, eight.

01:07:18.960 Okay.

01:07:19.740 Eight as well.

01:07:21.380 Without makeup, six.

01:07:23.040 With makeup, eight.

01:07:24.600 Oh.

01:07:25.880 Well, when I look in the mirror, of course, I want to say ten.

01:07:28.360 But, like, to someone else's side, they may not think that.

01:07:31.140 Maybe, like, just average.

01:07:33.380 An eight.

01:07:34.140 A seven.

01:07:35.000 Okay.

01:07:35.240 Girl, five is average, though.

01:07:37.240 You know.

01:07:38.240 You think?

01:07:38.900 I feel like the majority of girls.

01:07:40.620 So one to ten, five is the average.

01:07:42.320 But the majority of girls in Santa Barbara are going to be prettier. 0.99

01:07:44.820 So maybe a little bit higher.

01:07:46.860 All right.

01:07:47.180 What about you?

01:07:47.600 Do you agree?

01:07:48.220 Did you disagree?

01:07:49.220 No, no, no.

01:07:49.560 I mean, so, like, I'm just very practical.

01:07:52.420 If you're going to be a beautiful woman, so we'll do, like, eight to ten, you're probably

01:07:56.060 going to be offered a beauty contract, a modeling contract.

01:07:58.220 And some of us just don't get it.

01:08:00.120 Like, we can't all be Adriana Lima.

01:08:01.820 So, like, I fully embrace being an adjustable six until, you know, I hit, like, whatever

01:08:06.320 this magical wall is where I start getting wrinkles on my collagen, like, fails.

01:08:10.440 But I don't know.

01:08:11.460 I feel like pregnancy has to be a ding.

01:08:14.580 But the amount of simpery these days, like, I'm not sure if that is.

01:08:18.640 But I will do the responsible thing as an adult.

01:08:20.780 And I will rate myself as a four because I'm seven months pregnant.

01:08:23.800 If you still think I'm a six and, you know, like, I just think there's something wrong

01:08:27.080 with you, my guy, like, what are you doing?

01:08:31.000 I think, like, a six, maybe seven.

01:08:33.580 But, I mean, I also don't look my age, so there's that.

01:08:37.480 You don't look your age. 0.54

01:08:39.080 I don't look my age.

01:08:40.140 You look younger.

01:08:41.840 I've been told I look, like, ten years younger.

01:08:43.880 And I'm just like, hmm.

01:08:45.360 Are we looking at the same thing?

01:08:47.320 Yeah.

01:08:47.600 34?

01:08:48.120 Okay.

01:08:48.700 So, you know, I'm 34.

01:08:50.140 Yeah.

01:08:50.820 All right.

01:08:51.460 All right.

01:08:51.840 Stiffler thingy man.

01:08:52.460 All right, we have Mike here with the Canadian 50.

01:08:54.220 Thank you, man.

01:08:55.400 I'm going to have Rin read these because she wants to read.

01:08:57.660 Go.

01:08:59.180 The guys don't want anything real because of what you're putting out into the world.

01:09:02.700 Check your Insta.

01:09:03.380 Check your dating profiles.

01:09:04.440 What's up, Brian?

01:09:05.100 We DMed earlier.

01:09:06.280 Yo, Mike.

01:09:06.800 Thanks for the Canadian 50.

01:09:08.900 Merci beaucoup.

01:09:10.660 Much appreciated.

01:09:12.860 I don't know if you're in the French-speaking part of Canada.

01:09:16.080 But thank you, man.

01:09:16.920 Appreciate it.

01:09:17.800 We have Steven that came through as a TTS.

01:09:19.620 Thank you, guys, for the TTSs that came through.

01:09:22.980 Natalie, $50 soup chat.

01:09:24.040 Thank you.

01:09:24.560 Go for it, Rin.

01:09:26.520 Can we stop overvaluing marriage and kids as a starter pack to becoming a successful

01:09:30.180 woman? 0.96

01:09:31.020 Brian, ask these women where they see themselves in five years professionally and personally.

01:09:35.380 Can I respond?

01:09:37.320 To this one?

01:09:38.340 Yeah.

01:09:38.620 Or maybe we should have the girls go first? 1.00

01:09:40.560 Sure.

01:09:41.180 I just don't like this lady. 1.00

01:09:42.380 Oh, you don't like this?

01:09:43.280 You know her?

01:09:44.280 No.

01:09:44.480 No, that's rude.

01:09:45.460 I mean, that's why I said, I'll wait, Brian.

01:09:46.960 It's your show.

01:09:47.680 I'll wait.

01:09:48.180 Oh, okay. 0.99

01:09:48.740 To flame this chick. 1.00

01:09:49.560 Sure.

01:09:50.040 Let's have the girls just kind of go first. 1.00

01:09:52.480 So where do they see themselves in five years professionally and personally?

01:09:55.680 Sure.

01:09:55.880 Really quick answer.

01:09:57.320 Why don't we start with you first and then we'll go this way.

01:09:59.480 Then we'll have Allie come in. 1.00

01:10:01.120 Well, personally, I don't know.

01:10:02.860 I'm a single mom right now.

01:10:03.760 My focus is my son and I'm going to school to become a PA, Physicians Assistant in Neuroscience.

01:10:08.820 So hopefully in five years, I'll be a PA.

01:10:11.820 But other than that, that's it.

01:10:12.540 Okay.

01:10:12.780 You said you were married, right?

01:10:14.080 I used to be.

01:10:14.980 Right.

01:10:15.400 But you're divorced.

01:10:16.720 Is he still in the picture?

01:10:17.700 Does he pay child support?

01:10:18.780 He's still in the picture.

01:10:20.340 Great dad.

01:10:21.260 Shitty husband.

01:10:22.660 Okay.

01:10:23.280 But I shared custody, split custody, but the relationship got so bad that I didn't want

01:10:29.020 anything from him.

01:10:29.860 So I just did everything clean cut.

01:10:31.740 You don't show me anything.

01:10:32.840 I don't owe you anything.

01:10:34.180 Okay.

01:10:34.580 I always knew I was going to make more money than him anyway.

01:10:36.860 So I'm not about to pay any more into that.

01:10:38.820 Okay.

01:10:39.040 So focus on your kid and become a PA.

01:10:43.080 Okay.

01:10:43.400 What about you, Stella?

01:10:44.100 Um, personally, I see myself, you know, just growing with the same guy and then professionally,

01:10:51.100 I mean, right now I'm a leasing agent.

01:10:52.920 I want to say I'll be higher up.

01:10:55.380 I want to say maybe I'll be having leasing agents work for me.

01:11:00.380 Hopefully, maybe I'll be like a property owner, um, or own a brokerage or something like

01:11:05.360 that.

01:11:05.700 Maybe.

01:11:06.200 I don't know.

01:11:06.780 We'll see.

01:11:07.320 That's what I'm working for.

01:11:08.080 Question.

01:11:08.340 Are those glasses prescription, by the way?

01:11:10.160 Yes, they are.

01:11:11.060 You need them then.

01:11:12.120 What?

01:11:12.620 You need them, right?

01:11:13.560 Yeah.

01:11:13.720 Okay.

01:11:14.020 Okay.

01:11:14.360 Go ahead.

01:11:15.600 Um, in five years, I see myself, uh, owning my own business.

01:11:19.420 I don't know exactly what that's going to be.

01:11:21.620 So please don't ask me that.

01:11:23.840 Um, but do you want to be in a relationship?

01:11:26.520 Yeah.

01:11:27.060 I, I hopefully in five years, I'll be in a, in a serious long-term relationship.

01:11:31.700 I don't think I'll be married by then.

01:11:33.700 I think that that is, in my opinion, a little young to get married.

01:11:38.040 Um, but I do hope to be fully committed to someone who's also fully committed to me

01:11:42.640 working towards marriage.

01:11:44.100 Yeah.

01:11:44.920 What about you, Sophia?

01:11:46.180 Um, in five years, I'll be 23.

01:11:48.420 I'll be right out of college.

01:11:50.240 I think I'm going to do travel nursing.

01:11:52.020 So that'll be great.

01:11:53.140 I, I do want to hopefully be in a relationship by then, hopefully long-term, but I don't,

01:11:59.540 I also agree with Lindsay.

01:12:00.640 I don't think I can see myself getting married super young.

01:12:03.220 My mom got married when she was, I think 32 or something.

01:12:07.740 And I think that's kind of, I don't want to be married in my twenties, I think.

01:12:12.100 Okay.

01:12:13.180 I strongly recommend against travel nursing.

01:12:15.700 Like it's, it's for women with commitment issues. 1.00

01:12:17.720 It's like, there's other ways to travel.

01:12:19.240 I promise.

01:12:19.860 I'm serious.

01:12:20.500 Like, no, I disagree.

01:12:22.920 They, they make, they make a lot of money, Allie, but, but like I've encountered travel

01:12:29.320 nurses on dating apps and whatnot on dating apps.

01:12:31.860 Oh, so you're on the dating apps.

01:12:33.640 Are we going to shame him too?

01:12:35.320 Well, I'm just, no, no, no, no.

01:12:36.900 I'm saying where you're like, I've seen the travel nurses on the dating apps. 0.58

01:12:40.680 I'm like, well, that's why they're on the dating apps.

01:12:42.360 Cause they're traveling.

01:12:42.820 No, no, no.

01:12:43.260 But travel nurses are like, first off, they're in a new city every couple of weeks, every 0.56

01:12:49.640 couple of months.

01:12:50.520 And so it's just like astronomical body counts.

01:12:56.440 Astronomical.

01:12:56.980 Yeah.

01:12:57.180 That's why I'm like, you know, just pick somewhere cute, recommend the Midwest, Tennessee, go

01:13:02.240 with her to Tennessee, be a nurse there. 1.00

01:13:04.640 Oh, there you go.

01:13:05.240 You know, what's worse than travel nurses is flight attendants. 1.00

01:13:11.960 Bruv.

01:13:12.820 New city every week, every day.

01:13:15.860 New country.

01:13:16.580 Flyovers.

01:13:17.220 Bruv.

01:13:19.120 Yo, they.

01:13:21.080 Are you a nurse?

01:13:23.040 No, I'm not a nurse.

01:13:23.880 Like I told y'all, I talk to women every day. 1.00

01:13:25.780 I get like the craziest DMS front.

01:13:27.560 Well, for men and women, singles and marrieds, like something's wrong with a travel nurse 0.93

01:13:31.880 woman.

01:13:32.080 Like, it's cute.

01:13:32.720 Like when you're young and you're like, I just want to travel the country.

01:13:34.660 Like, that's cool.

01:13:35.720 Then it's like, you're 35, still a travel nurse.

01:13:39.360 You just never picked anywhere to live.

01:13:41.300 Never picked anyone to marry.

01:13:42.600 Like I usually, honestly, I usually think they're, they're using it as a way to run from someone.

01:13:45.940 Cause there's people that keep, have you noticed, um, I don't know if you guys know people that

01:13:49.780 are like in their like thirties or whatever.

01:13:52.020 There's some women that they just can't stay in one location for long and they just keep 1.00

01:13:55.420 moving around.

01:13:56.080 Right.

01:13:56.480 And it's cute if it's like something that makes you happy, but it's like not cute if

01:14:01.360 you're coping with something.

01:14:03.140 You see what I'm saying?

01:14:03.680 Sure.

01:14:04.100 Yeah.

01:14:04.280 Yeah.

01:14:04.660 Yeah.

01:14:04.880 Personally, I've always been really into travel.

01:14:07.660 I'm, I'm very well traveled for how old I am.

01:14:10.060 My parents have taken me to so many different countries and I think, I think it would be

01:14:14.640 really cool to just experience new places.

01:14:16.720 I don't necessarily see it as I'm running from somewhere.

01:14:20.100 I mean, I could totally see myself still live.

01:14:22.780 I know you're against California.

01:14:24.340 I don't know.

01:14:25.040 I love, I love it here, but, um, I don't know.

01:14:28.020 I think it's just cool to be able to experience different places and maybe live there.

01:14:32.080 And yeah.

01:14:32.860 Rin, where are you going to see yourself in five years?

01:14:34.880 Okay.

01:14:37.480 Don't play it.

01:14:38.140 Don't play it.

01:14:38.680 Okay.

01:14:39.200 Like, uh, five years.

01:14:41.180 Um, yeah, I want to, I want to travel too.

01:14:43.520 I want to travel too.

01:14:44.260 Like around the world and I will be single or something.

01:14:48.380 Yeah.

01:14:48.740 Cool.

01:14:49.620 Yeah.

01:14:50.000 I also want to travel around the world.

01:14:51.360 Remind me you're in school, right?

01:14:52.980 Yeah.

01:14:53.220 What are you studying?

01:14:54.660 Communications.

01:14:55.240 Com.

01:14:55.800 Aren't you, don't, aren't you doing content creation too?

01:14:58.380 Yeah.

01:14:59.240 So.

01:14:59.940 Do you do OF?

01:15:01.100 No.

01:15:01.660 Oh, okay.

01:15:02.220 I don't know why I thought that.

01:15:03.660 No, I don't.

01:15:04.500 Okay.

01:15:05.460 Um, so are you trying to be a content creator or what are you trying to do?

01:15:08.660 Um, I mean, I get like really cool opportunities being a content creator, but like, I don't

01:15:13.020 know if it would be like, like a, you know, like a long-term job for like career for the

01:15:17.900 rest of my life.

01:15:18.660 Oh.

01:15:19.320 High value, you've been donated $100.

01:15:21.120 Thank you.

01:15:21.720 Is it ironic that the ginger is dating a man who cares for upstairs uses through fear walks?

01:15:27.200 Winking face.

01:15:28.260 Also, Ren, I thought Asians were supposed to have the highest IQ. 0.98

01:15:32.280 It must be an act.

01:15:34.060 Just FYI, men view a woman's career like women view a man's shoe slash gun. 0.95

01:15:38.760 Um, okay.

01:15:39.760 Ren, do you want to shoot shots back at a high volume?

01:15:42.840 It's just like every time I go on a live stream, like people roast me just by bringing

01:15:46.980 up like that I'm Asian, like be creative.

01:15:50.020 I was just talking about this earlier, like be creative, have something else to say.

01:15:54.440 Yeah.

01:15:54.920 Roast her because she, uh, wears a Hello Kitty necklace or something. 1.00

01:16:02.620 I don't know.

01:16:03.160 I like Hello Kitty.

01:16:04.980 Is that actually Hello Kitty?

01:16:06.520 Yeah.

01:16:06.980 All right.

01:16:07.240 All right.

01:16:07.260 Allie, you wanted to, uh, say something to Natalie here.

01:16:10.480 Oh yeah.

01:16:11.100 Well, I'll get to Natalie.

01:16:12.100 I'm coming for you, ma'am.

01:16:13.120 Okay.

01:16:13.480 Cause you just, you're just not a happy person, but, um, I wanted to say this, like, did you

01:16:19.000 know that you can travel and be married also be like in a dating and a committed relationship.

01:16:24.560 And sometimes it's better like traveling alone.

01:16:26.740 It's cute.

01:16:27.240 Um, but you know, if you meet that guy, that's like your world to an extent, let's not idolize

01:16:32.560 him because that would be, you know, that's really bad to make him like God like, but you

01:16:36.740 do miss him.

01:16:37.300 Like I'm traveling right now.

01:16:38.320 I brought a girlfriend with me this time.

01:16:39.700 Uh, you know, good woman. 1.00

01:16:41.180 She's been in a longterm relationship.

01:16:42.800 Um, very frugal as well.

01:16:44.200 So shout out to you, sis. 1.00

01:16:45.120 You're really helpful.

01:16:45.640 But, um, I genuinely miss my husband and I wish that I was with him, you know, and the

01:16:51.720 times that we have traveled together have been so much more enriching.

01:16:54.460 So I would just say like, don't forget that.

01:16:56.320 Like you can travel married and I know, but I know you want to wait to get married as well.

01:17:00.380 So, and there's lots of different ways to travel.

01:17:02.540 You know, you could do it through a college, like study abroad and stuff like that.

01:17:05.860 Um, yeah, you know, but in any case, let's pull up this Natalie super chat. 0.50

01:17:10.080 You rude heifer.

01:17:11.380 All right.

01:17:11.960 Can we stop overvaluing marriage and kids as a starter pack?

01:17:16.100 Oh, so like marriage and kids, like that's a starter pack to you.

01:17:18.480 That's really, that's just not nice to, uh, joyful marriages and children.

01:17:22.540 We live in a society that wants you single fat, broke, and childless. 1.00

01:17:26.480 And you're adding to that with your 49 99, a donation of, you know, just like, what do

01:17:32.140 we want to call it?

01:17:32.780 Like apathy, right?

01:17:34.400 Um, ask these women where they see themselves in five years professionally and personally

01:17:38.960 for myself, hopefully I will have two biological children, one adopted child, and I'll be raising

01:17:45.920 them, which is just as valuable as if I got a PhD or if I was making six figures, it matters

01:17:51.900 just as much.

01:17:52.960 And for me personally, it matters more.

01:17:55.380 So how dare you like degrade married women who want to reproduce and do a good thing for

01:18:00.280 society? 0.51

01:18:00.780 Like you're a problem.

01:18:01.940 Um, and the fertility stats show that you're a problem as well because 50.1% of women in 1.00

01:18:06.700 the UK are childless by age 30.

01:18:08.500 This is unprecedented and most women want to have kids. 1.00

01:18:11.440 So thank you for the 49 99 of coping.

01:18:14.480 That is all.

01:18:16.340 It's just rude.

01:18:18.760 Where do you, where do you see yourself in five years?

01:18:21.120 Like marriage and kids is a starter pack, like starter pack to who?

01:18:24.520 Like that's not nice.

01:18:26.640 All right.

01:18:27.160 We have Andrew Johnson here at 50.

01:18:28.740 Thank you, man, for the, uh, super chat.

01:18:30.360 Shout out to Allie. 0.99

01:18:31.340 Perfect woman for the show. 0.66

01:18:32.560 Shout out to Brian for having her on just pearly things.

01:18:36.700 Hey, Andrew, thank you for the, uh, uh, super chat there.

01:18:39.980 And, uh, wow, you, that's a lovely, uh, volleyball beach volleyball serve you have.

01:18:44.860 Yeah.

01:18:45.320 All right.

01:18:46.180 Um, yeah, we have Ellie, Ellie good gal, $50 soup chat.

01:18:50.720 I said, uh, let's have Ren.

01:18:52.840 Ren's dying to read this.

01:18:55.660 Actually, you know what?

01:18:56.500 Let's have Sophia.

01:18:57.940 Sophia.

01:18:58.520 Let's have you read it.

01:18:59.420 I said before on comments, more than more or less 12 age gap, in my opinion, is too much. 0.90

01:19:05.900 Nothing beats marrying closer to your age, building wealth and a life together and growing

01:19:09.860 old together.

01:19:10.700 I'd never be attracted to a much older guy than me just because of high status.

01:19:16.560 All right.

01:19:17.280 Well, let me break it down to you.

01:19:19.640 Number one.

01:19:20.700 Okay.

01:19:20.940 My husband was 48 when I met him.

01:19:22.560 I was 25.

01:19:23.340 Well, okay.

01:19:23.840 I knew him for a couple of years.

01:19:24.720 I started dating him when I was 25.

01:19:26.160 The man was built like a Greek God for decades. 0.98

01:19:29.660 Was he at his hottest at 35?

01:19:31.760 Yes.

01:19:32.060 But he was looking like a whole snack at 48.

01:19:34.380 Okay.

01:19:34.760 So it's like, it's not like, you know, a fat dude who's in his late forties.

01:19:38.540 All right.

01:19:38.780 He was cute.

01:19:39.480 Number one.

01:19:40.140 And I'm not just with him because of his high status.

01:19:41.940 I just wanted freedom to be able to do things that I wanted to do, like raise children and

01:19:46.720 not have to work.

01:19:47.940 Like I want the option to work.

01:19:49.620 And my husband gives me that you're just shaming older men for marrying younger women.

01:19:53.620 And you're mad because we can, like, if you think about it, wouldn't it be over?

01:19:57.260 Right.

01:19:57.940 So like the women that are in their late thirties, if you guys just woke up tomorrow and in mass, 0.85

01:20:03.020 if young women woke up tomorrow and realized that 35 year old men are hot, it'd be over 1.00

01:20:07.800 for them.

01:20:08.580 You know what I mean?

01:20:08.920 Like it'd be done.

01:20:09.640 They wouldn't be able to compete.

01:20:10.540 For 35 year old women? 0.95

01:20:11.240 Huh?

01:20:11.620 For 35 year old women? 0.95

01:20:12.860 Yeah.

01:20:13.420 Like if we just all, if like a mass of young women woke up tomorrow and we're like 35 year old 0.87

01:20:16.980 men are hot, like it'd be over for these older women. 1.00

01:20:19.340 It'd be like, just like that in a heartbeat.

01:20:20.840 So like, they just get really rude about these age gaps.

01:20:23.960 Cause would anyone care if I was dating?

01:20:26.000 Um, like, let's say I was the one that was 51 and let's say that my husband was 28.

01:20:30.920 Would anyone care?

01:20:31.580 I think that that might almost be weirder.

01:20:33.960 Yeah, it is weirder.

01:20:35.560 It is weirder.

01:20:36.640 Well, it's certainly less common, but I also think that in general, like women are more mature

01:20:43.720 than men their own age.

01:20:45.420 So I do believe that women should date up and, you know, and Stella said she was 16 dating

01:20:49.900 a 20 year old, you know, most people are like, Oh my God, call the cops.

01:20:53.200 But like, I feel like at a point, you know, you become an adult, you, you know, you are

01:20:59.240 smart or not, you're mature or not.

01:21:01.040 And if you can look out for yourself and you can take care of yourself and this guy is not

01:21:05.660 a total psychopath.

01:21:06.820 Like there's such thing as love and there's such thing as feelings and not everything's 0.99

01:21:10.620 so, you know, disgusting and law and order.

01:21:12.460 Like there's such thing as relationships and, you know, this lady said, just because of 1.00

01:21:16.680 status, you know, I'm not marrying anyone just because of status.

01:21:20.180 But if I meet a guy and he just so happens to be five to 10 years older than me, I'm looking

01:21:25.520 at that as, as a plus, you know, he's smart.

01:21:28.140 He's experienced.

01:21:29.200 Hopefully he's got some more, you know, work behind him.

01:21:33.160 And then, you know, like I'm down for that.

01:21:36.420 Yeah.

01:21:36.760 Also, he smells good.

01:21:37.820 That's like number one reason why I'm married.

01:21:38.820 Yeah.

01:21:38.940 They can afford cologne and they shower regularly.

01:21:42.940 Yeah.

01:21:43.360 No, I say that all the time.

01:21:44.580 People are like, what's your favorite thing about being married?

01:21:46.000 I'm like, well, it's the way that he smells.

01:21:47.500 Like, I don't know if that's a bad answer, but that's my answer.

01:21:49.660 On this topic, what is the oldest guy that you would date?

01:21:54.580 Since I'm 20, I would date like 25 is oldest.

01:21:58.420 23.

01:21:59.900 At 18, I'd date 24, but in two, three years, I'd date five to 10 years older.

01:22:07.460 We know you're in a relationship, but let's assume.

01:22:09.680 I'm like nobody.

01:22:12.020 I want to say like 26, maybe 27.

01:22:15.580 Okay.

01:22:15.940 What about you?

01:22:17.380 Well, I'm 34, so like I think 40 would be my max.

01:22:22.880 De facto made $100.

01:22:24.360 Why all the chicks who don't know how to talk are always in calm major. 1.00

01:22:28.880 Also, plaza don't say you're independent.

01:22:31.700 No one is.

01:22:33.020 Independent means you're okay to die alone.

01:22:35.500 If you're not okay to die alone, start planning now.

01:22:38.900 Finally.

01:22:39.900 Can't believe I spent two in on this.

01:22:43.740 Oh, wait.

01:22:44.400 Is this the one that came through as the Canadian?

01:22:46.740 I wish they would like call us out more.

01:22:48.820 Who is he talking to?

01:22:49.780 They're not.

01:22:50.820 You want them to roast you more?

01:22:52.820 No, no, no, but when they say things, like was that at RIN?

01:22:56.460 Yeah.

01:22:57.240 Well, the first part at least about the communication major.

01:23:00.080 Yeah, yeah, and then I lost it a little bit there, so if you guys could be more clear with

01:23:03.940 your insults, that'd be appreciated.

01:23:05.680 Let me keep it moving here.

01:23:07.120 All right, we got Flynn live, Canadian $50.

01:23:09.420 Thank you, man.

01:23:10.640 Merci beaucoup.

01:23:11.260 I have this theory that if you cut off Kiki's hair, she'd look like a British, whoops, 1.00

01:23:16.280 we're going, there it is.

01:23:17.240 She'd look like a British man. 0.82

01:23:19.180 I think that's a Mean Girls reference.

01:23:21.500 Is it?

01:23:21.900 Oh, it is.

01:23:22.940 I have a theory if you cut off Regina's hair, she'd look like a British man. 0.99

01:23:26.460 You are fun.

01:23:27.720 You're fun.

01:23:28.900 As if.

01:23:30.300 Okay, we have Frankie K here. 0.73

01:23:31.720 That was clueless.

01:23:32.780 Yeah, I know.

01:23:33.620 Okay.

01:23:34.760 Good movie.

01:23:35.680 Okay.

01:23:36.140 Frankie K, $50 soup chat.

01:23:37.760 Thank you.

01:23:38.060 To the panel.

01:23:38.760 Actually, wait.

01:23:40.840 RIN, go ahead. 0.51

01:23:42.720 To panel, would you rather be with a wealthy man who loves you but cheats or cruise the poverty

01:23:47.040 line with a loyal but poor man?

01:23:48.660 Also, in your early 20s, you have the highest dating market value right now.

01:23:51.880 Don't be hoaxes.

01:23:52.860 Being a hoaxes.

01:23:55.400 Wait, say it again.

01:23:56.340 How do you pronounce it?

01:23:57.180 Hoax.

01:23:58.400 Yeah, I think that's how it is.

01:23:59.540 This is embarrassing.

01:24:00.320 I think that's how that's pronounced.

01:24:01.180 Don't be hoaxes?

01:24:02.900 Haxes?

01:24:03.440 I think you're close.

01:24:04.220 Try it again.

01:24:05.340 Hoaxes.

01:24:05.700 Yep, you got it.

01:24:06.880 Read the rest.

01:24:07.540 Being a hoaxes is bad.

01:24:10.340 Okay.

01:24:10.600 Well done. 1.00

01:24:12.180 Damn, people are going to call me stupid. 1.00

01:24:14.880 Does anyone know what he was trying to say there? 1.00

01:24:17.200 Yeah.

01:24:18.220 Yeah.

01:24:18.940 I mean, I work on YouTube, though, so it's like, yeah.

01:24:22.600 Okay, do you guys want to, so would you rather be with a wealthy man who loves you but

01:24:27.280 cheats or cruise the poverty line with a loyal but poor man?

01:24:33.740 Well, I'm taking the loyal but poor because, you know, I can work and hopefully we'll work

01:24:37.760 up together.

01:24:38.340 So maybe we're poor in the minute, but as long as we're both hardworking individuals with

01:24:42.740 high aspirations, I'm taking a healthy marriage.

01:24:46.260 Sophia?

01:24:46.800 Well, for how long would you like, you know what I mean?

01:24:49.000 Like, if he, if he's not making progress by X amount of years, you would bounce?

01:24:57.700 One.

01:24:58.400 One?

01:24:58.920 Hey.

01:24:59.480 You know, if he's not, you know, every day is not a, I'm going to do better, I'm going 0.96

01:25:03.680 to do better, then he's probably a loser and I'm not down for a loser. 0.94

01:25:07.740 That's a fair point. 0.94

01:25:08.220 Wait, really quick, just to bring up, does anyone else want to answer that?

01:25:12.800 I'll answer it, I'll answer it.

01:25:13.520 Okay, yeah, go ahead.

01:25:14.400 Yeah, I just think, yeah, sure, people would love it if you were like, if you were like

01:25:19.080 rich and you can just be like, oh, we're just like married on paper, but like have other

01:25:22.400 people on the side, but like, I think it would be so much more fulfilling to have like a loving

01:25:27.380 marriage that's like in poverty, but as long as like they're trying, just like how, what

01:25:32.980 we're saying, it's like, I feel like it's like a lot more fulfilling and like, yeah.

01:25:38.160 Sophia?

01:25:38.760 I agree.

01:25:39.460 I think, I mean, I'm reading a comment and it said the hypothetical would be that they're

01:25:45.180 always poor and I think that it's, I agree with Lindsay, I think if the man is willing

01:25:51.720 to work and to like make something of himself, I don't want someone who's sitting around all

01:25:57.520 day and he's poor and he's can't even afford food and, or he wants me to buy him food every

01:26:01.840 day, you know, I, I mean, I'm going to work to support myself, but I don't need to be

01:26:06.700 supporting you as well, but I would like a loyal relationship.

01:26:11.040 I don't want a man who's cheating on me every day, even though he's rich, you know.

01:26:14.900 Okay.

01:26:15.840 Anybody else?

01:26:17.540 Poor man.

01:26:19.060 My boyfriend wasn't a firefighter when I met him.

01:26:21.420 I helped him get there.

01:26:23.760 I don't want someone who cheats on me.

01:26:25.900 That's awful.

01:26:26.720 I think that's like a very disrespectful, like just don't commit if you're going to

01:26:30.420 cheat, you know, um, I make my own money.

01:26:33.680 I can be with someone who's a little bit poor for a little bit.

01:26:36.740 Go ahead.

01:26:37.380 Um, I would go for poor too.

01:26:39.040 I feel like loyalty is everything to some people.

01:26:42.920 So if you can't have that, then what's the point?

01:26:47.920 Okay.

01:26:48.520 And I don't know if you had something you wanted to add to that.

01:26:51.220 I do have a followup question.

01:26:53.140 What are the two options again?

01:26:54.600 Um, it was, uh, loyal, but poor and rich, but he's going to cheat on you.

01:26:59.300 Basically rich, but he's going to cheat on you loyal, but poor, but like, does he stay

01:27:04.280 poor?

01:27:04.640 Like, I don't want to be real.

01:27:06.140 Like I've been poor before.

01:27:07.920 I'm sorry.

01:27:08.580 I don't know if I'm trying to do that again.

01:27:10.680 Like, you know, I, I'm not for cheating, but if you're going to make me like play the hypothetical

01:27:14.720 game, I'm sorry.

01:27:16.360 Like I've been, I have been with a man who was making me poor and I would never in my life

01:27:23.480 ever do that again.

01:27:24.980 Um, but this is a hypothetical question.

01:27:26.900 I am married to a faithful man and also pregnant.

01:27:29.180 So there you go.

01:27:30.580 Okay.

01:27:31.740 Uh, so this, what, this is kind of bringing it back to the, uh, Oh, beaten cheeks donated

01:27:37.520 $99.99.

01:27:38.700 Thank you, man.

01:27:39.060 I appreciate it.

01:27:40.140 These new age girls need to stop listening to drew a follow under followers because they 1.00

01:27:44.880 refuse to take accountability in what they put in their mouth.

01:27:48.440 Weight is controlled.

01:27:49.900 Hide is not.

01:27:51.220 Being a hoe is no good. 1.00

01:27:52.820 I must go to bed.

01:27:53.840 I have an Arby's team to run.

01:27:56.040 Yes.

01:27:56.480 If you guys don't know, beaten cheeks, he's the very successful proprietor of numerous.

01:28:01.260 We're talking dozens of Arby's on the East coast.

01:28:04.920 Very, very successful man.

01:28:06.960 Yeah.

01:28:07.280 This is really gross.

01:28:08.160 I love Arby's guilty pleasure.

01:28:11.540 Okay.

01:28:12.340 Wow.

01:28:12.900 So good.

01:28:13.880 There's some disagreement here on the quality of Arby's.

01:28:17.620 Um, that reminds me, we do need to react to drew a follow because she did a video on 1.00

01:28:23.320 me.

01:28:23.800 Um, yeah, she did.

01:28:25.040 But you're like one of the nice ones.

01:28:26.620 That's, that's the funny thing.

01:28:27.760 I'm like the tamest dude.

01:28:30.060 It wasn't even that pretty anyways.

01:28:32.180 Well, so we're going to react to that.

01:28:33.400 Drew, drew.

01:28:34.220 What's it?

01:28:34.800 How do you say her last name?

01:28:35.520 Is it a follow?

01:28:38.200 Yeah.

01:28:38.860 So that's, Oh, the cackling.

01:28:40.380 Yeah.

01:28:40.700 Anyways.

01:28:41.320 Um, so the question I was going to ask is by the way, cheeks, thank you for the hundred.

01:28:44.620 Um, so bringing it back to the age gap thing in terms of the oldest guy that you would

01:28:50.380 date, is there actually, no, no, no, I was going in a different direction.

01:28:56.020 So you guys said you'd prefer a guy who's loyal, but who's poor.

01:29:00.780 Let me ask you a question.

01:29:02.140 What if the guy is also really high status?

01:29:04.600 So like, think of your, think of like your favorite musician or like a famous actor.

01:29:11.640 Would you then tolerate infidelity?

01:29:16.700 Okay.

01:29:17.320 So on top.

01:29:18.200 Here, we're going to go around the table.

01:29:19.560 Tell me your celebrity crush.

01:29:20.760 Go ahead.

01:29:22.180 Ryan Gosling.

01:29:23.320 Ryan Gosling.

01:29:24.340 Okay.

01:29:25.020 Henry Cavill.

01:29:26.980 Okay.

01:29:27.680 Hold on.

01:29:28.520 So Ryan here, let's start here.

01:29:30.660 Henry Cavill.

01:29:31.600 Isn't it Henry Cavill?

01:29:32.580 Oh my God, me too.

01:29:33.220 Oh my God.

01:29:34.600 Who is that?

01:29:34.960 Yo, wait, question for you.

01:29:36.060 Yeah.

01:29:36.820 Would, would your husband give you a pass for Henry Cavill?

01:29:41.240 No, my husband wouldn't give me a pass, but like in a, in a, in a, but you hear about 0.97

01:29:44.420 that shit, you know, like you don't hear people giving each other, you know, um, I've actually 0.98

01:29:48.440 been in a room with, with millionaires, right. 1.00

01:29:50.400 Um, like on multiple occasions I've been in rooms with millionaire men, but my relationship

01:29:54.320 is so good and my husband takes like such good care of me.

01:29:57.000 I don't look at them.

01:29:58.000 I mean, in fact, I would say honestly, because I value masculinity so much, like most millionaires

01:30:02.780 kind of disgust me just because they don't bring like, um, like that grit, you know,

01:30:07.080 like that, that rugged masculinity.

01:30:09.160 Yeah.

01:30:09.380 They're not the blue collar men of the world.

01:30:11.500 Yeah.

01:30:11.860 Like I got a pair of people.

01:30:13.140 He does, he does like, um, he does a white collar job, but he does it for the military.

01:30:16.880 So I'm like, Oh, this is perfect.

01:30:18.580 Yeah.

01:30:19.680 Um, no pass.

01:30:20.860 That's awesome.

01:30:21.600 Sure.

01:30:21.940 Of course.

01:30:22.300 Um, so what about you?

01:30:24.800 Do you have like a celebrity crush?

01:30:26.340 I do.

01:30:27.160 Brad Pitt.

01:30:28.740 Okay.

01:30:29.260 But like 20, not now.

01:30:30.780 Oh, young Brad Pitt.

01:30:32.080 Young Brad Pitt.

01:30:32.740 Okay.

01:30:33.000 Babe status, Brad Pitt.

01:30:34.380 Okay.

01:30:34.540 What about you?

01:30:35.440 Ryan Gosling.

01:30:36.300 Ryan Gosling.

01:30:37.500 Okay.

01:30:38.360 No.

01:30:38.620 Sophia.

01:30:39.220 Young Leonardo DiCaprio.

01:30:40.780 Young Leo.

01:30:41.700 I like that you specified that.

01:30:42.540 How about like, let's say.

01:30:44.080 Oh God.

01:30:45.140 He'd date you now.

01:30:47.340 Well, I mean, you'd still get with Leo though.

01:30:50.600 He would date you.

01:30:51.560 He would.

01:30:52.720 What does he do?

01:30:53.220 He breaks up with all of his girlfriends before they turn how old?

01:30:55.760 25.

01:30:56.540 25.

01:30:57.040 Yeah.

01:30:57.260 But you still have a good couple of years.

01:30:58.160 Like, let's be honest.

01:30:59.600 You'd get with Leo.

01:31:01.140 I so would.

01:31:02.760 Yeah.

01:31:03.480 Yeah.

01:31:03.740 Not young Leo.

01:31:04.560 Sure.

01:31:04.900 Current dad bod Leo.

01:31:06.480 Okay.

01:31:07.040 So Leo.

01:31:08.280 Because of his status.

01:31:09.220 Because of the status.

01:31:10.680 Okay.

01:31:11.380 And the yachts.

01:31:12.100 Okay.

01:31:12.240 What about you?

01:31:13.520 My sister crush, Kim Taehyung. 1.00

01:31:18.200 Who the fuck is that guy? 1.00

01:31:20.440 Who's that? 1.00

01:31:22.440 He's like a K-pop. 0.99

01:31:23.780 He's a BTS member.

01:31:25.100 I literally was going to ask.

01:31:26.260 I was going to ask that.

01:31:27.260 They're cute.

01:31:27.860 Hey, you're keeping it in the culture.

01:31:29.600 So you're like, that's good.

01:31:30.560 That's good.

01:31:31.620 No, that's like a good thing.

01:31:33.360 You know what I mean?

01:31:34.080 If I were to say, like, I also have another celebrity crush.

01:31:38.940 I like Luke Hemmings from Five Sauce, Five Seconds of Summer.

01:31:43.060 And if I said that, I already said it. 1.00

01:31:44.940 Who the fuck is that guy? 1.00

01:31:45.500 I don't know. 1.00

01:31:46.060 I know who that is.

01:31:46.820 He's cute.

01:31:47.500 Yeah.

01:31:47.720 And then, like, people would be like, oh, she's Asian. 1.00

01:31:50.020 She loves white guys. 0.53

01:31:51.380 So I was just like, I'm not going to say that.

01:31:53.160 Oh.

01:31:54.880 Hey, man, you like who you like.

01:31:56.380 You know, I'm not.

01:31:57.120 I still like Kim Taehyung.

01:31:58.660 Leonardo no Caprio.

01:32:00.020 Wait.

01:32:00.220 So would you be willing to be with those men knowing that they would not be faithful to you?

01:32:09.320 No.

01:32:10.000 Just emotionally, I would just cry every night.

01:32:12.700 Be like, I got my celebrity crush, but he doesn't even want me.

01:32:17.000 Yeah.

01:32:17.580 Same.

01:32:18.700 Okay.

01:32:20.040 Realistically, I'd do it.

01:32:21.260 There's a lot of networking to do up there.

01:32:23.280 Oh, with Ryan Gosling?

01:32:25.300 Yeah.

01:32:25.680 Okay.

01:32:26.020 Like, you know, he's opening doors.

01:32:27.740 He's 39, too, by the way.

01:32:29.000 So that kind of plays with the, you know, you said, like, what, 25 is your limit?

01:32:33.500 As of now.

01:32:34.300 As of now.

01:32:34.720 But, you know, in two years, I would certainly.

01:32:37.860 In two years when he's 41.

01:32:38.720 I think it grows, the age difference I would go for grows exponentially the older you get.

01:32:45.360 Yeah.

01:32:45.720 But I would do it.

01:32:48.480 No, I wouldn't.

01:32:49.720 And specifically because of their high status even more.

01:32:53.900 Because then your business is, like, all out on the internet.

01:32:56.440 Now everyone's going to know that your boyfriend's cheating on you.

01:32:58.240 It's not just, oh, my boyfriend's cheating on me and nobody knows.

01:33:01.260 Now everyone's going to know because he's famous.

01:33:03.340 Okay.

01:33:04.000 And then.

01:33:05.300 Definitely not.

01:33:06.720 Can I change my answer?

01:33:08.500 To a different guy?

01:33:10.000 No.

01:33:10.480 Like, my answer to the thingy.

01:33:12.580 The thingy?

01:33:13.200 The thingy.

01:33:13.780 Okay.

01:33:14.120 Yeah, yeah.

01:33:14.540 Go for it.

01:33:14.700 Yeah, well, like, I agree with what you guys said.

01:33:17.120 Like, if it's, like, there's, like, a lot of networking.

01:33:19.940 Like, yeah.

01:33:20.300 Like, I would do it for the networking.

01:33:21.620 But, like, if it was just simply marriage, like, the only way I'd make it work is if I

01:33:25.340 actually had, like, an actual faithful, like, you know what I mean?

01:33:28.980 Like, if it was just, like, if it was, like, a, like, we were just together, like, to other

01:33:33.660 people, like, married and stuff.

01:33:35.060 But, like, if I had, like, a secret, like, my own, we only had our own relationships on

01:33:38.820 the side.

01:33:39.180 That's the only way I'd be happy.

01:33:40.720 But then if, like, I would marry just to, like, for, like, the networking and stuff.

01:33:46.160 Yeah.

01:33:46.260 So, you said Henry Cavill.

01:33:49.400 Okay.

01:33:50.020 Yeah.

01:33:51.360 You, both of you, apparently?

01:33:53.280 Yeah.

01:33:53.740 Like, in an alternate universe where I was single, if Henry Cavill would be in a relationship with

01:33:58.240 me, I would entertain it.

01:33:59.820 But, like, infidelity, I don't know about that one.

01:34:02.120 Like, he'd have to be in love with me, you know?

01:34:03.980 But in this, like, alternate universe that exists somewhere in the ether, he'd have to

01:34:07.940 be in love with me.

01:34:09.000 It wouldn't make sense any other way.

01:34:10.660 All right.

01:34:11.320 By the way, guys, I think there's 2,000 of you, about over 2,000 of you watching right

01:34:15.460 now, so drop a thumbs up on the video, guys.

01:34:18.320 Like the video.

01:34:19.580 And, okay, so you said Henry Cavill.

01:34:21.680 Are you aware that Henry Cavill is an avid video game player?

01:34:27.760 I am.

01:34:28.440 You got to speak into the mic.

01:34:29.360 I am, yeah.

01:34:31.320 He plays World of Warcraft.

01:34:33.100 I've heard.

01:34:34.120 Do you play World of Warcraft?

01:34:35.180 I do not.

01:34:35.700 I don't have the attention span for that.

01:34:37.940 Okay, I want to paint.

01:34:38.660 Or the time.

01:34:38.960 I'm going to, hold on, let me see what I got here.

01:34:41.040 Okay, I'm going to paint a little picture for you here, so.

01:34:46.260 Okay, so Henry Cavill, right?

01:34:50.060 Top tier World of Warcraft player.

01:34:51.880 But let's talk about a regular guy fulfilling the same video game role.

01:34:56.380 So, Eric, can you lower the volume a little bit while I just do this segment?

01:35:02.100 So, this guy's in the top North American hardcore raiding guild in World of Warcraft Classic.

01:35:07.640 He's got four level 60s, a rogue main, you know, warrior primary alt, warlock, mage, all level 60s.

01:35:15.400 He parses in the 99th percentile on World of Warcraft locks.

01:35:20.140 So, all pink parses.

01:35:21.360 I don't want to open this up to all the girls. 0.86

01:35:24.360 He's a pumper, like DPS pumper.

01:35:27.000 Do you go for that guy?

01:35:29.020 Can you, what does that mean?

01:35:30.000 Yeah, I don't know what that means.

01:35:30.660 Like a pumper.

01:35:31.620 Like his DPS is, he's a chat.

01:35:34.340 He's like a gamer.

01:35:35.880 No.

01:35:36.480 You don't go for him?

01:35:37.180 No.

01:35:37.560 Like a, but he's like top parser.

01:35:39.900 Doesn't matter.

01:35:40.760 Yeah, don't they make a lot of money on like Twitch and stuff?

01:35:43.860 Yeah, they can.

01:35:44.880 I wouldn't.

01:35:45.400 No, like he just does it for the passion.

01:35:47.020 He's like a passion player.

01:35:48.500 No, I'm sorry.

01:35:49.320 I find that super unattractive and I can't even back it up.

01:35:51.900 I just, I'm not a fan.

01:35:54.240 I don't know.

01:35:55.420 What if it's like he's in a, like I said, he's in the top guild in North America.

01:35:58.920 Is he bringing in a lot of money?

01:36:00.720 No.

01:36:01.060 Then absolutely not.

01:36:02.500 The only way I'd be like, you know, I understand this is working.

01:36:05.420 Like, like if this is your job, I can respect it.

01:36:08.240 I might not like it, but I can respect it. 0.98

01:36:10.220 If you're doing this for shits and giggles, count me out.

01:36:13.660 What about like if they full clear Molten Core and BWL in like 30 minutes? 0.95

01:36:18.560 I don't know what any of this is.

01:36:20.020 Yeah.

01:36:20.620 Yeah.

01:36:21.020 He has.

01:36:22.700 Is that cool?

01:36:23.360 He has Dragon Fang Talisman.

01:36:25.840 Oh, he has Dragon Fang Talisman.

01:36:26.500 How much does he play?

01:36:28.080 Yeah.

01:36:28.560 Like a casual, like seven hours a day.

01:36:31.100 No.

01:36:31.840 No.

01:36:32.380 Like also.

01:36:33.220 But here's the thing.

01:36:34.760 Like, okay.

01:36:35.160 So during like the first phases, here's the thing.

01:36:38.300 Like during the first phases, right?

01:36:40.080 So there's like the honor system.

01:36:41.700 He's going to be, he's grinding for High Warlord because he plays Horde, right?

01:36:46.080 So he's going to go for rank 14.

01:36:47.920 So that's like a 12 to 14 hour day commitment every single day.

01:36:51.960 Like just PVPing Warsong Gulch, AV.

01:36:55.880 And if they, if they stagger, hold on.

01:36:58.180 If they, yeah.

01:36:59.580 How dare you?

01:37:01.160 How dare you?

01:37:01.920 Like if they stagger the release of like the BGs, Battlegrounds, then he's like out

01:37:09.620 in the like world PVP.

01:37:11.940 Then he's like really like that's 16 hour commitment, like PVP real world.

01:37:19.000 It sounds like you want to date him.

01:37:20.760 We're all a hard no.

01:37:21.600 I'm just trying to say like, I think you're trying to hype it up because you're about to

01:37:24.740 turn the question around.

01:37:26.160 No, no.

01:37:26.520 I'm just like, would you date this guy?

01:37:28.180 No.

01:37:28.800 No.

01:37:29.060 Okay.

01:37:29.460 Let me add.

01:37:29.840 I wouldn't date a guy who recreationally plays any game three hours a day.

01:37:34.860 I'm certainly not dating a guy who does this, you know, so passionately, but you know, isn't

01:37:41.340 getting anything out of it.

01:37:43.080 Like, let me ask you this though.

01:37:44.300 Right.

01:37:44.520 Cause like I'm prior service military.

01:37:46.240 Um, like there are like top tier dudes, like stone cold killers.

01:37:49.300 Right.

01:37:49.600 I mean, you guys are like, Oh, like kind of, but it's also kind of sexy.

01:37:51.680 So let's stop.

01:37:52.580 But like, there's some of these guys, they do play video games though.

01:37:56.100 You know?

01:37:56.480 It's like, would you be cool with it?

01:37:58.940 Oh, thank you, man.

01:38:00.920 Appreciate it.

01:38:02.180 Women value, experience, provision, attractiveness, and protection, competence.

01:38:08.720 Men value, beauty, youth, purity, and femininity.

01:38:13.160 Are there any plans for you to go on Pearly's show or vice versa?

01:38:16.820 Brian, BTW, 10 out of 10 humble is the same person as me.

01:38:21.640 Hey, thank you, man, for doing that through Streamlabs.

01:38:24.340 Appreciate it.

01:38:24.840 Yeah, I'll be, I've been talking to Pearl and, uh, I, we have a, uh, cordial acquaintance,

01:38:32.100 I guess you could say.

01:38:32.820 And, uh, I, I think she's moving her studio to, uh, Chicago, I believe, or in the States.

01:38:38.840 And so, yeah, I'd certainly love to have her on our show.

01:38:41.420 I'd love to be on her show.

01:38:43.520 And, uh, what was the last part of that?

01:38:45.660 I forgot.

01:38:46.260 Did you guys have a response to his initial thing?

01:38:49.240 I don't even remember what it was.

01:38:50.180 Here, let me see if I can pull it up really quick.

01:38:52.040 Oh, yeah.

01:38:53.020 Yeah.

01:38:53.180 So women value experience, provision, attractiveness, and protection, competence. 0.93

01:38:57.180 Men value beauty, youth, purity, and femininity. 0.85

01:39:00.140 Your thoughts on that statement?

01:39:01.680 Go ahead, Rin.

01:39:03.100 Like, like, I guess.

01:39:06.540 Thought, that was, okay, um, go ahead.

01:39:10.160 I hate the conversation that men value purity.

01:39:13.740 I'm not gonna lie.

01:39:14.760 Sure, we'll talk about that.

01:39:15.580 That's, yeah.

01:39:16.440 Why, how so?

01:39:17.860 I love that conversation.

01:39:18.920 You like the conversation?

01:39:20.380 I just.

01:39:21.140 Just articulate, explain it a little bit.

01:39:23.260 It kind of has to do with the age gap thing a little bit.

01:39:25.740 I don't know.

01:39:26.120 I don't like when, it's, there's nothing wrong with dating older or having an age gap in your

01:39:31.220 relationship, but I think it's really gross when men want younger women because they're 1.00

01:39:37.900 pure, because, you know, they're less, like, ran through, I guess.

01:39:42.560 That's like.

01:39:43.220 Well, okay.

01:39:44.500 I mean, there's nothing.

01:39:45.440 Before I respond, I'll allow the other girls to come in on this if they want. 1.00

01:39:48.960 So, do you want to continue?

01:39:51.040 I mean, well, we can keep going.

01:39:53.460 Well, no, no, no.

01:39:54.580 But so, you object to the purity thing because you take quarrel with the fact that men want

01:40:01.280 women that don't have a high body count and. 1.00

01:40:04.840 Not the body count thing.

01:40:06.040 I think it's just, like, the purity thing.

01:40:08.180 Like, I want.

01:40:08.720 No, but that's what you just said.

01:40:10.520 You just said the rant.

01:40:11.540 You said the whole thing about being ran through and having high body count.

01:40:14.700 Because a guy can call a girl ran through if they have, if they have slept with two guys.

01:40:17.360 I don't, I mean, yeah.

01:40:18.480 I wouldn't consider that ran through.

01:40:19.960 Some people do.

01:40:20.940 They're like, oh, if you're not a virgin, then you're, you're ran through.

01:40:24.020 Very few men, like, very few men have that standard.

01:40:29.920 Guys prefer virgins, though. 0.98

01:40:32.000 Well, they, they do.

01:40:33.580 However, most women aren't. 1.00

01:40:35.540 And we do have to operate in reality here.

01:40:38.140 Sure.

01:40:38.560 Like, in the same way that perhaps it's ideal for you to date a billionaire who's six feet

01:40:42.980 five, six foot five and incredibly attractive.

01:40:45.640 It's also ideal for us to meet a virgin.

01:40:48.320 But are we going to get it?

01:40:50.360 No.

01:40:52.220 I think, I think that has, you said you're 18, right?

01:40:55.240 Yes.

01:40:55.740 Yeah.

01:40:55.900 I think that has something to do with your age.

01:40:57.660 Like, I find that the younger men are, I mean, just like in, in the DMs and the conversations

01:41:02.920 that I've happened, that I've been having.

01:41:04.320 And then also, like, I have a, I have a little brother.

01:41:07.060 He's in high school right now.

01:41:08.300 So I think that's like an expectation for your age group is like, he's like, yeah, I think

01:41:12.800 that, you know, two is too much.

01:41:14.540 If you're 18 and he's 18, of course he's going to say that two is too much. 0.56

01:41:17.080 But then if he's like, you know, like 35, talking about a woman, like a body count, like 0.51

01:41:21.380 you wouldn't hear that from most 35 year old men, unless it's men that were inexperienced

01:41:26.540 with women.

01:41:27.080 So I think that's like a normal standard for your age group and for men, for sure.

01:41:30.460 Yeah.

01:41:30.620 Just, I want to get everyone's take on this.

01:41:32.040 So on the purity thing, she kind of has an issue with that.

01:41:34.680 Men want purity. 0.95

01:41:38.480 Agree?

01:41:38.940 Disagree?

01:41:39.220 I, um, the thing is with me, I'm going to get you.

01:41:45.140 You got to be quick with it.

01:41:46.180 You got to be quick.

01:41:46.680 I don't, I don't even care.

01:41:47.680 Like, I mean, I don't want a guy who's ran through either.

01:41:50.180 So I don't, you know.

01:41:51.080 All right.

01:41:51.380 Um, I, I think that when we say purity, I can understand, you know, and as I stated

01:42:01.100 before, I don't think that sex is just a physical act.

01:42:05.120 I believe it's a meeting of the body and it should be a meeting of the mind and it should

01:42:08.980 be something important.

01:42:10.480 And I think you should do it with someone you love and respect.

01:42:12.520 And I think that, you know, if you're sleeping with X, Y, and Z and you happen to love and

01:42:18.460 respect them, your levels of love and respect are probably kind of skewed.

01:42:22.520 And I wouldn't want, I wouldn't want anything to do with someone who doesn't have a good

01:42:27.460 image of, of love and respect.

01:42:29.640 So I, I'm going to kind of twist it.

01:42:32.360 And, you know, I don't think that guys who are like, oh, I won't be with her cause she's

01:42:37.340 been with so many guys.

01:42:38.980 Like, I think that from purely a sexual standpoint, it's like, okay, then you're probably

01:42:42.500 just insecure, but overall, like I can understand why a guy's like, I'd prefer a girl who's 0.92

01:42:48.160 not just, who, who values this more than a girl who doesn't value the act of sex.

01:42:53.780 Why is a guy insecure for wanting a woman who's not promiscuous or who has a low body

01:42:59.000 count?

01:43:02.460 Let me think about this cause I'll be able to articulate it properly.

01:43:06.220 Okay.

01:43:06.720 Did you want to come in and we'll come back to you?

01:43:08.520 Yeah, I'll say something.

01:43:08.620 Um, I have this argument a lot with my coworkers.

01:43:15.120 Um, I work with all guys and, um, and my boyfriend.

01:43:21.720 So I see both sides.

01:43:24.220 I definitely understand, you know, the purity thing cause women have their own standards 1.00

01:43:30.340 too.

01:43:30.800 Um, but I see, I kind of, I understand the male's point of view.

01:43:35.300 You don't want someone with a high body count.

01:43:37.420 Um, yeah, I get it.

01:43:40.760 It's almost like a hard pill to swallow.

01:43:43.140 Uh, it's something that I definitely didn't agree with for a really long time. 1.00

01:43:46.300 And I was like, no, fuck that. 1.00

01:43:48.320 Like girls can fuck who they want. 1.00

01:43:49.960 But, um, also taking women can fuck who they want, but men can also not want to be in a 1.00

01:43:57.580 relationship with women who have slept with a lot of men taking a lot of psychology classes 1.00

01:44:05.200 as well.

01:44:05.780 I've learned that women take sex a lot more seriously and it affects them physically and 1.00

01:44:10.660 emotionally a lot more than it affects guys.

01:44:12.800 Um, so also seeing it from that kind of standpoint, I kind of get, you know, it's more intimate

01:44:18.940 to girls and having a fewer body count would, I think, less damage the girl's mental stability, 1.00

01:44:25.440 if that makes sense a little bit.

01:44:26.660 Okay.

01:44:26.840 What about you?

01:44:27.960 Um, I agree with them too.

01:44:29.960 Um, I think having a low body count is good, but what exactly is pure, you know, to each their

01:44:36.980 own, what's your definition of pure?

01:44:38.720 What's my definition of pure?

01:44:39.760 pure may not be the same, but if we can agree on it, then we can compromise.

01:44:44.620 But I do agree that there are some men who, and I've had nothing but guy friends and I've

01:44:49.720 heard the way that they talk about women and it's just horrible.

01:44:54.300 So the things that they say about these girls, what do they say? 0.54

01:44:59.420 Like when I was in high school, you know, I've had my guy friends were like, oh, I just dumped

01:45:02.920 so-and-so, but like, if you want to hit it, go ahead.

01:45:05.400 Like, we're going to go to a party.

01:45:06.500 Like just, you know, whatever.

01:45:07.740 You got talking to the mic.

01:45:08.800 Like, so I've had guys like that.

01:45:10.680 They're like, just pass off the girl onto the next, like, like it's nothing, you know?

01:45:15.080 Wait, you overheard them saying this?

01:45:17.240 Yeah.

01:45:17.380 I've had my own guy friends like tell the other group of guys like, oh, I broke up with so-and-so,

01:45:22.800 like we're going to go to this party.

01:45:24.160 So if, you know, if you hit her up, like it's cool, it's fair game.

01:45:26.660 Well, I have a question.

01:45:27.540 Why is that so bad?

01:45:28.480 Because I've also, you know, been seeing a guy, gone on a date with a guy and then my,

01:45:32.040 you know, for whatever reason, I'm not interested.

01:45:34.000 He's not interested.

01:45:34.720 It doesn't work out.

01:45:35.820 You know, I'll say to my girlfriend, I don't care.

01:45:37.220 Like, go ahead, do your thing.

01:45:38.500 Like you can court them if you like, not necessarily just sex, but like, why is that statement so bad?

01:45:44.500 If you've slept with them, I feel like that's different because the sexual thing, the connectivity

01:45:47.940 thing, that's different.

01:45:49.320 So if I'm just talking to you and it doesn't work out and so-and-so wants to hit you up,

01:45:53.160 that's fine.

01:45:53.660 Go for it.

01:45:54.200 Okay.

01:45:54.420 But when it comes to sex, that's a whole different thing.

01:45:57.960 Okay.

01:45:58.240 So you wanted a moment to collect your thoughts.

01:46:01.100 Go ahead.

01:46:01.480 Well, I think that what I was just trying to say is if a guy is like, oh, she can't have

01:46:06.040 slept with more than two or three guys, possibly he could be insecure about his own performance

01:46:10.880 and doesn't want her to be able to compare it to anything.

01:46:13.040 I think that that's less of an instance.

01:46:14.380 And I think I said, you know, a guy could be insecure as more of like a minor point, but

01:46:19.000 that's what I had to say.

01:46:20.180 But I mean, that was the first thing that you went to was, was insecurity.

01:46:24.940 I'm not denying that that couldn't potentially be the case for a guy preferring a low body

01:46:30.980 count, but thank you, man.

01:46:33.040 Appreciate it.

01:46:33.540 Men and women are different.

01:46:35.180 Body count is a legit double standard.

01:46:37.680 The fact of the matter is society values what's hard slash difficult.

01:46:41.560 Women can get easily get laid while men have to work hard to get it. 1.00

01:46:45.600 Men visualize every man and woman's been with two.

01:46:48.020 Okay, we're going to actually do something with this one.

01:46:51.280 Thank you.

01:46:51.600 That's a lot.

01:46:51.980 Thank you, man.

01:46:52.720 Yeah.

01:46:53.480 So he says women can get easily or women can get easily get. 0.98

01:46:59.180 Okay.

01:46:59.660 Women can easily get laid. 1.00

01:47:02.080 Men can't. 0.94

01:47:03.420 Agree, disagree.

01:47:06.120 I agree.

01:47:07.540 Okay.

01:47:08.020 So it's easier for women to get laid. 1.00

01:47:10.540 Okay.

01:47:11.000 Yeah.

01:47:11.360 100%.

01:47:12.120 Agree.

01:47:12.540 100%.

01:47:13.560 Agree.

01:47:14.460 Okay.

01:47:15.100 Yeah.

01:47:15.320 I don't need to like agree.

01:47:16.880 It's a fact.

01:47:17.440 Like that's what, that's what the data says.

01:47:19.100 And it shows that it's out there, that it is like harder on self-reported things.

01:47:22.820 It is harder for men to get a sexual access to women.

01:47:25.500 And like, that's fine. 0.95

01:47:26.440 Like we're, we're the pickier and we're the choosier sex.

01:47:28.520 Have you ever heard the joke from men that nobody's ugly after 2 AM?

01:47:32.880 Yeah.

01:47:33.240 Like, like it's real.

01:47:34.400 But, um, like when we were talking about these sex differences, we just have to be mindful

01:47:38.060 about testosterone.

01:47:39.120 Testosterone is a sexual impulse.

01:47:40.460 We have testosterone too, but we have like one 17th to one 75th of the amount of testosterone

01:47:45.600 as men.

01:47:46.120 So like men value purity, but they also really want to have sex. 0.97

01:47:50.460 Now, is it like helpful or beneficial for a man to be absurdly promiscuous and give himself 0.98

01:47:54.920 sexual diabetes? 0.98

01:47:55.940 Like, no, you know what I mean?

01:47:57.220 But to say that, you know, men are insecure if a woman has a high body count, I think that's

01:48:01.760 fair because the, the men that are looking for relationships that are looking to commit

01:48:05.200 to women, of course, they're not going to want to commit to a woman that has a promiscuous 1.00

01:48:08.280 past because behavior, um, your, your habits are a good indicator for how you'll behave

01:48:13.320 in the future.

01:48:16.620 But like, I just think that that's a really sexist thing that we do, you know, he doesn't 0.76

01:48:18.420 like a promiscuous woman. 1.00

01:48:19.500 And so obviously he's insecure. 0.77

01:48:21.940 I think, I don't know what the female equivalent of that would be, um, what men saying anything

01:48:26.320 like that.

01:48:26.940 But, um, and it's also true.

01:48:28.780 Like it comes down to the quality of men that you're hanging out with.

01:48:31.540 Like if you're talking, if you're hanging around men, like if you hear that conversation

01:48:34.700 where men are saying out loud, like, Oh yeah, I was with her.

01:48:37.480 You can have her.

01:48:38.240 Then we need to be changing our friend groups.

01:48:40.940 We cannot be socializing with, I mean, it's just like, it's degenerate people.

01:48:45.560 If it, even if it was a woman, like if one of my girlfriends was like, yeah, I had him, 0.96

01:48:48.780 you can have him too.

01:48:49.360 I'd be like, um, this friendship is over.

01:48:50.600 Cause there's something wrong with you. 0.64

01:48:51.760 Like that's purely degenerate.

01:48:53.120 We can't like be crossing streams.

01:48:54.800 Like this is inappropriate.

01:48:55.680 Yeah.

01:48:56.400 Yeah.

01:48:56.680 It's not cool.

01:48:57.760 Well, I think that I, I probably should have used a different word.

01:49:01.160 I realized that the word insecure does have a negative connotation, but I believe insecurity

01:49:05.420 is something every single human deals with, you know, we're all self-conscious.

01:49:09.980 I'm just the first to admit it, Kanye, whatever.

01:49:11.960 What are you doing?

01:49:13.160 Like my ADHD cannot right now.

01:49:15.520 Like, I just, I, I, I think that it's just a fact.

01:49:17.980 Like, you know, it was not supposed to be like, Oh my, you know, this guy I'm dating

01:49:22.880 can't care about the last guy I dated.

01:49:24.940 Like, I didn't mean it so much as a negative thing, but I think that that, you know, you

01:49:28.920 asked, why do you think men care? 0.99

01:49:30.320 Yo, what are you doing?

01:49:31.480 Rin? 0.98

01:49:31.820 Somebody was like, Rin's, I was like doing this.

01:49:34.040 And then people were like, Rin's like doing a BTS dance.

01:49:36.020 So I was like, why not actually do a BTS dance?

01:49:38.120 All right.

01:49:38.420 Oh, it just distracts from the show though.

01:49:40.340 Um, but I was, I was going to say like, um, the, the thing about it is like, you're not

01:49:44.000 the first woman to say it.

01:49:45.700 Like if you take time and you can watch their content too.

01:49:48.600 It is like a standard thing that when men have standards in relationships, we shame them,

01:49:53.700 we shun them.

01:49:54.360 When like, if you have a brother or a father and like, let's say your father was dating,

01:49:57.800 right?

01:49:58.180 Like you would want him to have standards.

01:49:59.860 Like that men are allowed to have standards, but we kind of like shame them for having them. 1.00

01:50:04.060 You know what I mean?

01:50:05.120 Yeah.

01:50:05.420 Multiple times that phrase comes up. 0.92

01:50:07.100 He, he doesn't like promiscuous women. 1.00

01:50:08.760 And I know you, you clarified later with two or three, but like there's women that will 1.00

01:50:12.140 say, there's women that'll say like, let's say, uh, you know, her body count was like 1.00

01:50:15.420 25 or like 35.

01:50:17.080 Right.

01:50:17.420 So if we present this, uh, situation, the scenario and a man comes out and says, well,

01:50:21.560 that's too much.

01:50:22.280 I'm not okay with that.

01:50:23.180 Women will still call him insecure.

01:50:25.040 There's some women out there. 1.00

01:50:26.180 Like she could have a body count of like hundreds, right?

01:50:28.240 That would be a very small minority.

01:50:30.020 I don't think it's about insecurity at that point.

01:50:32.280 I think it's just like, you've, you know, done this with so many different people.

01:50:36.300 You must not value it.

01:50:37.400 You must not respect yourself.

01:50:38.760 That's how I see it.

01:50:39.740 That's how I view it.

01:50:40.560 So I think the insecurity part, oh, well, I won't even go over that.

01:50:43.920 Cause you, I think we're on the same page.

01:50:46.200 Like that's whatever.

01:50:48.880 I think we unpacked it.

01:50:50.160 Yeah.

01:50:50.300 I mean, I, it's, it definitely seems to me that as soon as a guy says, here's what I

01:50:55.060 want in a girl, here's what I want in a woman. 1.00

01:50:57.660 It's almost always going to be met with that's either a misogynist or you're insecure, small 1.00

01:51:04.980 dick energy. 0.99

01:51:05.760 It's always going to be met with some sort of contempt, shaming. 0.63

01:51:11.260 So it's just funny.

01:51:13.000 Women, women are allowed to have preferences, standards, and boundaries and men are not. 0.89

01:51:19.560 Yeah.

01:51:20.440 Well, I actually think it's the total, I won't say total opposite, but I think that women 1.00

01:51:25.200 are more, uh, outwardly allowed to have those boundaries and standards when it comes to

01:51:31.560 having sex. 0.75

01:51:32.200 And that's why we said, you know, women have, are the pickers and choosers, but men have 0.99

01:51:36.620 it with marriage and relationships.

01:51:38.920 I actually kind of disagree with that.

01:51:40.560 Okay.

01:51:40.860 Well, I, women control access to sex, but like most men are invisible to most women. 0.84

01:51:47.180 So actually most men don't have choice either when it comes to a relationship.

01:51:52.600 Okay.

01:51:53.560 Yeah.

01:51:53.760 That's, that's super fair to say.

01:51:55.080 Now, like top tier guys.

01:51:56.520 Yes.

01:51:57.020 Then they are the ones who decides who gets a relationship.

01:51:59.720 Right.

01:52:00.240 It does happen to the, excuse me, it happens to be the case that most women are chasing 1.00

01:52:05.020 after those top 10, top 20% men.

01:52:07.960 Because we're, we're taking the ones that we choose that we would physically be intimate

01:52:11.860 with.

01:52:12.300 And then we're looking at that, you know, small group of people and deciding who we would

01:52:16.460 truly like to be in a relationship with.

01:52:18.240 And then those guys have also been other females choice to be intimate with. 0.99

01:52:22.640 Yep.

01:52:22.960 So then, you know, you're nothing special when it comes to their dating pool.

01:52:26.000 Yeah.

01:52:26.200 So you, if, if you've said yes to them, a lot of other women are prepared to say yes to 0.96

01:52:31.160 them.

01:52:31.380 So they have really no incentive to commit.

01:52:35.160 So what's your dating advice?

01:52:36.860 Say no, keep saying no.

01:52:38.400 Like, well, I think one, have a reasonable self, self assessment of where you stand in

01:52:43.280 the sexual marketplace. 0.74

01:52:44.140 So I think you guys, you know, you, none of you said you were tens, but we do have girls

01:52:48.800 that come on the show.

01:52:49.740 They not tens that say they're tens.

01:52:52.620 And it's like, do you tell them right there?

01:52:55.820 You're like, I tell them, no, I tell, yeah, I tell them you're not a 10 and they'll fight

01:53:00.100 me on it.

01:53:00.680 I'm not rude about it.

01:53:01.720 I'm just like, and I don't give them a rating, but I'll say you're not a 10.

01:53:05.680 Yeah.

01:53:05.860 Who is a 10?

01:53:06.620 Who's your celeb crush?

01:53:07.860 Eric, do you want to pull up the, uh, Instagram?

01:53:10.960 This has been discussed before.

01:53:13.180 Uh, we just have, this is Eric's, uh, saved Instagram.

01:53:18.120 So these are like, I wouldn't say they're tens, but they're like, I would consider very,

01:53:22.640 very attractive, like eight, nine, 10.

01:53:24.420 Uh, so we got Wolfie Cindy here. 1.00

01:53:26.500 Keep going.

01:53:27.220 Uh, just keep scrolling.

01:53:30.060 Eric, scroll down, scroll down, scroll down.

01:53:32.640 Is that Katarina down? 0.76

01:53:34.320 Probably.

01:53:34.840 I don't know.

01:53:35.240 That just anyways.

01:53:36.980 Okay.

01:53:37.180 So now I have a question.

01:53:38.020 Exceptionally attractive women. 0.98

01:53:39.260 These girls are so hot, super hot. 1.00

01:53:42.240 The girls that are posting photos like that, is that wife material? 1.00

01:53:45.360 Like, does that not, because as a girl, and this is funny to like, think about, you know,

01:53:50.960 if my dude were on the internet posting just, you know, totally naked pictures all the time,

01:53:56.000 I would be like, yeah, like objectively he's attractive, but it, you know, in my like date,

01:54:02.840 dating rate, like you go to a zero, I wouldn't want to be with someone like that. 0.80

01:54:06.420 Whereas for men, like you see that and you're still like, oh, she's a 10.

01:54:09.700 Like the second you see her posting that, you know, that's not a 10 for me anymore.

01:54:15.420 But these women are also making a lot of money and making a bag. 1.00

01:54:18.440 And I respect that.

01:54:19.320 Like, I don't, and they probably don't look like that.

01:54:23.000 And have you seen, what's her name?

01:54:24.820 Wolfie Cindy.

01:54:25.240 Have you seen her in real life?

01:54:26.760 She's pretty, she's pretty bad, but she doesn't look like that in real life. 0.99

01:54:30.580 Well, yeah, obviously there's some Photoshop and makeup.

01:54:32.840 So there's that.

01:54:33.900 And then the good point that Lindsay made when girls, you know, I personally, my boyfriend, 0.99

01:54:38.300 if he likes a girl in a bikini pic, I'm like, don't fucking like that picture. 0.89

01:54:42.460 But I don't post pictures like that. 0.96

01:54:44.580 So I expect him not to like those.

01:54:46.740 So what's your opinion?

01:54:47.860 Would you wife up Wolfie Cindy with her posting pictures like that on her Instagram?

01:54:53.800 Would I wife up Wolfie Cindy?

01:54:55.480 I mean, I don't, I don't know her.

01:54:56.740 I haven't met her.

01:54:57.980 So I, great personality.

01:54:59.400 You love her.

01:54:59.880 She checks everything, but she still posts, but she has an OF. 1.00

01:55:03.060 Oh, she's a whore. 1.00

01:55:03.960 She like, I don't think she has like 20 plus body count. 1.00

01:55:07.400 And she's posting that.

01:55:08.180 So no, ignore OnlyFans.

01:55:10.000 She has 20 plus body count and she's posting that on. 1.00

01:55:12.180 Does Wolfie Cindy have a 20 plus body count? 1.00

01:55:14.180 Probably.

01:55:14.780 You think so?

01:55:15.420 I don't know.

01:55:16.520 She's in Hollywood.

01:55:18.360 I'm guessing.

01:55:19.300 I don't know.

01:55:19.680 She could have five bodies. 1.00

01:55:20.740 I'm just, just in the instance that she did, would you wipe her up?

01:55:24.900 I'm just asking.

01:55:25.740 Yeah.

01:55:27.360 Because of the Instagram photos or because of her hypothetical body count?

01:55:32.200 Because she's a model. 1.00

01:55:33.020 Like she is a model. 0.75

01:55:34.320 So the photos is like, I mean, to me, that's not, she doesn't do OF.

01:55:40.460 Like she's a proper model. 0.90

01:55:40.780 But she's not a real model. 0.56

01:55:42.400 Arguably, she's not a real model.

01:55:43.940 She's like social media. 0.99

01:55:45.040 She's close to a porn star. 1.00

01:55:46.440 She's an Instagram model. 0.98

01:55:47.420 She's not a model. 0.99

01:55:48.360 No, I think she's like, she does like actual.

01:55:51.260 I think she's been to like Miami Swim Week, but.

01:55:54.200 Adriana Lima is a model.

01:55:56.120 Yeah.

01:55:56.360 That woman is not a model. 1.00

01:55:57.020 Yeah.

01:55:57.600 Giselle is a model.

01:55:59.080 Arena is a model.

01:56:00.820 Like.

01:56:00.900 Get Wolfie Cindy on the show. 0.64

01:56:02.520 Like there's a.

01:56:03.160 I like her.

01:56:03.980 She sees this.

01:56:04.700 I don't mean it.

01:56:05.100 I'll tell her to her face that she's not a model. 1.00

01:56:05.960 Like you can bring her.

01:56:06.680 She's not.

01:56:07.380 You're not a model.

01:56:08.560 My buddy knows her.

01:56:09.980 My buddy knows her.

01:56:11.020 Oh, I'm sure he does.

01:56:11.240 Apparently she doesn't do, she doesn't do like interviews. 1.00

01:56:13.960 So, but would you, you know, would you.

01:56:17.080 Would I what?

01:56:18.140 Wife her? 1.00

01:56:18.900 Wife her. 1.00

01:56:19.860 Would you put a ring on it?

01:56:21.340 Well, here's.

01:56:21.780 I mean, I.

01:56:22.900 I'm already.

01:56:23.740 No, no, no, no, no, no.

01:56:24.800 Hold on.

01:56:25.100 The status.

01:56:25.700 Well, first off.

01:56:26.820 Okay.

01:56:27.260 So first off.

01:56:28.480 I'm already disqualifying my.

01:56:30.040 I'm already disqualifying myself just based on looks.

01:56:35.400 You're just.

01:56:36.280 I'm disqualifying myself.

01:56:38.900 You're saying she's just into me?

01:56:40.500 Yeah.

01:56:41.260 Wolfie Cindy.

01:56:42.020 Look, I'm, I'm realistic about where I'm at.

01:56:43.940 Okay.

01:56:44.120 But we're in a hypothetical that we get to make up.

01:56:46.180 You made us do hypotheticals.

01:56:47.180 Yeah.

01:56:47.580 Wolfie Cindy.

01:56:48.360 Answer the question.

01:56:49.460 I'm married and I did a Henry Cavill hypothetical for the show.

01:56:52.800 And that was like dodgy for me.

01:56:54.260 So, okay.

01:56:54.920 Give me the breakdown.

01:56:56.140 She's great personality. 1.00

01:56:57.520 Great.

01:56:57.720 She's everything you want in a woman. 1.00

01:56:59.280 But she has a 20 plus body count. 1.00

01:57:01.240 She wants to date you or you guys are dating.

01:57:04.000 She wants you to marry her. 0.52

01:57:05.180 20 plus body count.

01:57:06.140 And this, she posts this every day.

01:57:08.960 Her boobies out. 0.96

01:57:10.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:57:10.280 She does lingerie shoots where you can see your nipple and she posts it on Instagram. 1.00

01:57:13.380 Everyone can see your boobs. 1.00

01:57:15.320 They're supposed to be yours. 0.99

01:57:16.380 Right.

01:57:16.760 It's okay if you like hoes. 1.00

01:57:17.900 It's okay.

01:57:18.260 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

01:57:19.040 Yeah.

01:57:19.200 Just say it.

01:57:19.980 Just say it.

01:57:20.460 We just want to hear it.

01:57:21.260 Whoa, whoa, whoa.

01:57:22.100 Hold on.

01:57:22.440 A lot of men do.

01:57:23.500 How do you think she's getting paid? 0.99

01:57:25.020 It's okay.

01:57:25.780 She's beautiful.

01:57:26.800 She's gorgeous.

01:57:27.600 She does not have OnlyFans.

01:57:28.860 She's like not.

01:57:30.340 Okay.

01:57:30.600 So OnlyFans is a hard line for you.

01:57:34.200 Instagram modeling, you know, in a swimsuit.

01:57:37.100 Is that a hard line?

01:57:37.660 Yes or no?

01:57:38.560 I wouldn't. 1.00

01:57:39.000 No, the swimsuit shit, I don't really. 1.00

01:57:40.760 Okay. 1.00

01:57:41.060 Lingerie.

01:57:41.520 Let me frame it like this.

01:57:42.820 Would it be, let me frame it like this.

01:57:45.000 Would it be my preference that a girl didn't even have social media? 1.00

01:57:48.880 Yes.

01:57:49.280 However, like realistically, like to me, there's, there's much higher things on the list of things

01:57:58.320 that I care about than, than that.

01:58:01.220 So also I'm like, money is my vice.

01:58:04.540 So I'd probably say that I, the, the opportunity in terms of partnering with Wolfie Cindy would

01:58:14.020 be substantial.

01:58:15.360 Like there's, there's some value there.

01:58:18.220 Yeah.

01:58:18.560 So, so maybe you would date her and use her to network, but possibly not marry or would 0.97

01:58:25.580 you?

01:58:26.980 It's such a hypothetical.

01:58:28.540 Would that be a deal breaker?

01:58:28.760 Like she can't, maybe has point to mind.

01:58:31.200 We didn't.

01:58:32.040 No, we got it.

01:58:32.820 Like, I don't, like, I don't think there's like, there's like an L, you know, like if you

01:58:36.360 think that a really beautiful, attractive woman who does, who checks all the boxes but 1.00

01:58:40.640 posts these pictures on the internet, like you're in California.

01:58:43.080 Like that's pretty standard for this place.

01:58:44.820 That's, I also have to be realistic with like the women that I'm surrounded by. 1.00

01:58:48.580 Like there's not a lot of women who don't have Instagram, aren't posting these kinds 0.78

01:58:53.040 of photos.

01:58:53.460 Yeah.

01:58:53.720 Fair enough.

01:58:54.100 So like I could be on, I could be in my ivory tower on my high horse say I would never date

01:58:59.740 a girl who has an Instagram.

01:59:00.920 Instagram, well, I'm, I'm going to be celibate for a minute.

01:59:06.560 I'm going to, I'm not going to get laid for a minute.

01:59:08.560 So like, would it, but however, do I, would it be, would it be like brownie points where

01:59:13.780 I think it's great if a girl didn't have Instagram or wasn't posting these sort of 0.66

01:59:18.100 revealing photos a hundred percent, but I live in Santa Barbara, California, incredibly

01:59:22.460 liberal, like very, you know, it's just not a deal breaker for you.

01:59:26.460 It's not a deal breaker.

01:59:27.720 It's fine.

01:59:28.280 Like for a lot of liberal men, they're cool with it.

01:59:30.460 Yeah.

01:59:30.860 Yeah.

01:59:31.320 Go you, body positivity.

01:59:33.200 20 body count though.

01:59:34.200 That's going to be tough to wife up. 1.00

01:59:35.500 So I think on the body count thing, that's, bruv, we, we've had some 18 year old girls

01:59:41.020 on that have 30, 40, 50 bodies.

01:59:42.820 So like, yeah, on that note, let's talk about body count.

01:59:47.140 Okay.

01:59:47.860 Um, did you have a question?

01:59:49.200 Go ahead.

01:59:50.000 Yeah, I did.

01:59:50.780 Do you just save those and make like a collection in your Instagram of hot girls? 0.99

01:59:54.360 It's just like, uh, it's, it's really, that's interesting.

01:59:58.580 It's favorited for the show.

02:00:00.700 It's for the show.

02:00:01.560 It's for the show.

02:00:02.260 It's for the show.

02:00:03.380 I listen, these girls, they come in, they say they're tens. 0.99

02:00:07.740 Bruv.

02:00:08.220 You have to show them what a tenant is.

02:00:09.260 I got, I don't even, half those girls are like eights and most of them are tens. 1.00

02:00:13.480 There's like successful men that are married to like, um, you know, like permit, well, not

02:00:18.200 promiscuous, but like a hypersexual women that are public online. 1.00

02:00:21.900 Like they, they totally exist. 0.97

02:00:23.060 Right.

02:00:23.260 I can't like, I'm Midwest and I don't look at that stuff, but is there a couple that comes

02:00:26.900 to mind?

02:00:28.480 Like there's, there's, yeah, there's tons of people that do that.

02:00:31.640 Yeah.

02:00:32.300 Yeah.

02:00:32.660 No, I would agree.

02:00:33.920 Um, high status men who are married to men who present hyper sexually on social media.

02:00:40.480 100%.

02:00:40.800 Yeah.

02:00:41.000 Yeah.

02:00:41.140 Let's think about pro athletes.

02:00:42.580 I mean, there's a ton of them.

02:00:43.840 Yeah.

02:00:44.460 So, so I mean, maybe those just aren't high value men.

02:00:47.620 They're high status men who just happen to know how to play a sport really well.

02:00:51.260 I think, so here's the thing.

02:00:52.600 Like there is an element of a trophy wife, right? 1.00

02:00:54.840 Like as long as she doesn't embarrass you in public or like have like public scandals 0.97

02:00:58.280 or get pregnant by another dude. 0.67

02:00:59.660 Like, I think a lot of guys are willing to have this very, like a perpetual 10 that you

02:01:05.180 get to invest millions in.

02:01:06.340 Yeah.

02:01:06.680 Cause the thing is, it's like that stuff takes upkeep, right?

02:01:08.680 You know, like they can afford things to keep them looking like hotter for much longer

02:01:13.120 than like, you know, me, I mean, that's not going to happen for me.

02:01:15.100 So I think like there's an element of a, of a trophy wife, you know, that's okay.

02:01:19.200 Well, look, okay.

02:01:21.020 Also, I'm reading the chat.

02:01:23.040 A lot of y'all in the chat, Sam saying I'm a simp.

02:01:26.200 I saw that because I would, bruv, any, have you guys, okay.

02:01:33.760 Wolfie Cindy is an exceptionally attractive woman. 1.00

02:01:36.820 She's okay.

02:01:38.260 She looks like the majority of Instagram models in real life.

02:01:42.560 You're not going to find, you're going to find.

02:01:44.100 Bro, she has like, she's beautiful. 1.00

02:01:47.420 Yeah.

02:01:47.780 No, no, no.

02:01:48.140 Hold on.

02:01:48.480 You can find another one.

02:01:49.640 She looked, there's another one.

02:01:50.600 Bro, she has like thousand year dynasty genetics. 0.99

02:01:54.840 Okay.

02:01:55.240 But you're in, here's another factor.

02:01:57.000 That's how attractive she is. 1.00

02:01:58.280 She is a beautiful, curvaceous, dark haired, I believe dark eyed, gorgeous woman. 0.64

02:02:04.460 There's some guys who find her unattractive completely.

02:02:07.860 They're into, you know, blonde hair, blue eyes or African American women. 1.00

02:02:11.680 Like, you know, she's, she's really not, maybe in your opinion.

02:02:15.940 And, you know, I'd like for you to meet her in person.

02:02:18.280 I'm, I, I don't want to.

02:02:19.640 Send it up, send it up.

02:02:20.920 So would he.

02:02:21.340 I don't have her.

02:02:21.860 Yeah.

02:02:22.320 You know, I'm.

02:02:22.840 I think that she's sexy, but I wouldn't call her beautiful.

02:02:25.080 Like when I think about models, I think about traditional models that like Marxism cannot

02:02:28.800 compete.

02:02:29.220 You know, like some women are just born that beautiful. 1.00

02:02:30.880 Wait, Marxism?

02:02:32.000 Yeah.

02:02:32.420 Wolfie, Cindy is a Marxist plant. 1.00

02:02:34.980 The whole, the whole, no, I'm not talking about her, right?

02:02:37.700 And I, I realized, you know, the libs coming out, but it's like, no, like there is an element

02:02:41.160 of Marxism in our culture where it's like, everyone can be a model and everyone can be

02:02:45.580 beautiful because Instagram exists and we can do that.

02:02:47.780 Right.

02:02:48.100 Yeah.

02:02:48.340 And there's a lot to be said about her body.

02:02:49.680 And like, I'm not going to act like she's not sexy.

02:02:51.520 This woman is 100% sexy. 1.00

02:02:53.860 Yeah.

02:02:54.060 In my perspective, like I don't find her to be beautiful.

02:02:56.720 I find rare women to be beautiful. 1.00

02:02:59.300 Adriana Lima or Gal Gadot.

02:03:00.540 I think she's so beautiful.

02:03:01.660 Yeah.

02:03:01.940 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

02:03:02.720 Yeah.

02:03:03.220 Gal Gadot is better looking than Wolfie Cindy. 1.00

02:03:06.400 What?

02:03:07.080 I think Wolfie Cindy is beautiful.

02:03:09.060 I think she's so beautiful.

02:03:10.960 What do you, what do you mean?

02:03:11.820 I like sexy women. 1.00

02:03:13.380 Yeah.

02:03:13.720 Yeah.

02:03:13.900 Like, like the difference between sexy and beautiful.

02:03:15.760 Does that make sense?

02:03:17.740 I, okay.

02:03:18.520 Yes.

02:03:18.760 I sort of know what you mean, but I like beautiful women. 1.00

02:03:21.680 I like sexy women. 1.00

02:03:22.660 I mean.

02:03:22.780 So you like them both.

02:03:23.360 Yes, but I think that you can be, I think that you can be beautiful without being sexy

02:03:27.700 and you can be sexy without being beautiful.

02:03:29.320 You can be both.

02:03:29.900 You can be neither.

02:03:30.880 People don't know who she is. 1.00

02:03:32.500 Everyone's saying that she's like not, she's mid too. 0.95

02:03:34.700 I think she's very beautiful.

02:03:35.920 I think she's a super beautiful girl.

02:03:37.220 I do.

02:03:38.700 I know what you're saying though.

02:03:39.920 Some people have the more unique model look.

02:03:41.760 For me, it's like, it's the, it's the plastic surgery Instagram thing.

02:03:45.220 Like that's my thing.

02:03:46.820 It's like everyone, it's not natural.

02:03:48.640 You're born with it or you're not.

02:03:49.060 Like you can't buy it.

02:03:50.360 She is sexy. 0.93

02:03:51.100 Like I, you know, I, I don't think she has plastic surgery. 0.98

02:03:54.320 She definitely has Botox. 0.85

02:03:54.900 She definitely has lip filler. 1.00

02:03:57.400 Her boobs are also, I think she's had her boobs done. 1.00

02:04:00.600 I mean, there's just looking at female bodies. 1.00

02:04:03.840 I feel like I can tell.

02:04:05.300 If you're looking, if you're looking, if you are looking, listen, if you're looking at 0.95

02:04:10.540 a voluptuous woman with a great rack and a nice butt and she has a flat stomach, that's 1.00

02:04:16.920 not real. 0.95

02:04:17.640 Women's bodies are not built like that. 1.00

02:04:19.560 And that's okay.

02:04:20.960 Yeah, that's true.

02:04:21.440 Like I ran my breasts off in 2018.

02:04:22.960 Like, I'm not joking.

02:04:23.760 Like I fell in love with running.

02:04:24.900 And then that's when I found out.

02:04:26.100 And because my husband and I've had this conversation, he's like a medical nerd too. 0.76

02:04:28.800 Um, so when you see like these Instagram models, no fake tits, by the way, I'm looking, if 0.98

02:04:34.120 you're a woman, like if you're a woman that's sub 20% body fat, majority of women that are 1.00

02:04:38.420 sub 25, 20, 20% body fat, like they're not really going to have breasts. 1.00

02:04:42.680 Like that's a small percentage of the population that absolutely.

02:04:45.760 And that's not healthy.

02:04:46.980 It's like 10% of women. 1.00

02:04:48.100 The last I checked, it's like the, the percentage of women that have big racks naturally. 1.00

02:04:51.620 It's like 10% of them last I checked.

02:04:53.440 Yeah.

02:04:54.220 And our, our, you know, if we're going to say like, if we're talking about thin women, 0.51

02:05:00.840 you're probably not going to have a huge rack.

02:05:03.980 And if you do, they're probably fake or you're just born, you know, you're God's favorite,

02:05:08.080 which is awesome and good for you.

02:05:09.280 I wish I was, um, I'm just, I'm on, I'm on the beauty train.

02:05:15.220 You know what I mean?

02:05:15.540 Like if you can, if you can pay for it, like that's not beauty.

02:05:17.940 It is sexy, but I don't think that that's beauty.

02:05:20.520 And I think that like, that's a perfectly okay thing to say.

02:05:22.900 I wasn't born in 10 and I, you know, hopefully like baby girl, you know, maybe, maybe you'll

02:05:27.540 come through, but I don't know for me, it just wasn't in the cards.

02:05:30.520 Yeah.

02:05:30.940 But I think that's okay to say, but this was fun.

02:05:33.720 I liked rating this woman with you guys.

02:05:35.300 This was good.

02:05:36.020 Yeah.

02:05:37.140 So, whoa.

02:05:38.960 I don't even know.

02:05:39.960 We came to the conclusion that she's sexy. 1.00

02:05:41.860 She's hot, but it's not.

02:05:43.160 She's not beautiful.

02:05:44.220 The thing is to be beautiful.

02:05:45.460 You can't be fake.

02:05:46.720 I don't, is she fake though?

02:05:48.040 I don't know.

02:05:48.760 We just went over this.

02:05:50.040 Her, the proportions of her body.

02:05:52.500 And I say this out of full jealousy. 0.98

02:05:53.520 I don't think she has fake titties. 0.99

02:05:54.800 I, they're too nice. 0.98

02:05:56.740 She could be.

02:05:57.440 Okay. 0.97

02:05:57.520 The way her, her stomach, her butt, like there's just been help there. 0.84

02:06:01.940 I, like, I agree.

02:06:03.280 She's super attractive, but there's been help there.

02:06:06.560 You know?

02:06:06.840 Yeah.

02:06:07.260 She's like, she's hotter than me for sure. 1.00

02:06:09.040 You know?

02:06:09.400 That's coke.

02:06:09.840 I just don't think.

02:06:10.680 I said that she's hotter than me. 1.00

02:06:12.300 What does that mean?

02:06:13.180 Coke.

02:06:13.860 Just like some, some women, like, look, some women are using Photoshop. 1.00

02:06:18.720 They're squeezing their fucking, what is it, their ribs in or whatever. 0.99

02:06:21.960 Yeah. 1.00

02:06:22.360 Some girls are photoshopping that shit. 1.00

02:06:24.220 Some of it is angles, et cetera. 1.00

02:06:25.880 But you can't deny that some women, now, obviously there's like the really extreme Photoshop 1.00

02:06:31.620 that that's just impossible.

02:06:33.180 But like, there are some women that do have a really thin waist. 1.00

02:06:36.560 Yeah.

02:06:36.900 Of course. 1.00

02:06:37.240 Like, there are some women that have fucking, there are gods. 1.00

02:06:40.660 Yeah. 1.00

02:06:40.940 You know, gods' favorites are out there.

02:06:43.020 They really are.

02:06:43.600 I just, I don't think that's Wolfie Cindy. 0.99

02:06:45.440 And I think that it also promotes an unhealthy standard of, you know, what women should look 1.00

02:06:51.680 like. 0.99

02:06:52.400 And, you know, the girls are looking at her, can't have a big boob, can't have big butts. 1.00

02:06:56.640 All you want to do is lose weight. 0.88

02:06:58.580 It's not healthy.

02:06:59.480 Like, to, you know, to want to be a certain size, to want to be in your healthy body is

02:07:03.360 a good thing.

02:07:03.840 But, you know, if the only thing you think you can achieve is a six pack, that's not

02:07:07.460 healthy for women.

02:07:08.180 I think there's actually much harsher physical beauty or physical things on men.

02:07:17.080 I think dad bods are in, and I don't think that's true.

02:07:20.240 Stop the cap. 0.94

02:07:21.920 I'm not capping.

02:07:23.540 I feel like that's so in.

02:07:25.200 Like, on TikTok right now, everyone's talking about dad bods.

02:07:25.960 Women say that, but it's not. 1.00

02:07:28.160 Really?

02:07:28.840 You just have to look at movies.

02:07:30.400 Like, have you noticed that they're making the female leads in rom-coms more mid? 1.00

02:07:33.960 You know, like Amy Shearer.

02:07:34.820 However, however, the men are not changing.

02:07:38.900 Like, they're still hot.

02:07:40.160 They still have six packs.

02:07:41.860 I mean, it's okay if you don't get it as a woman.

02:07:43.740 Like, not all of us are going to get the dude with a six pack, but it's like, those dudes

02:07:46.720 are, like, objectively sexy.

02:07:48.040 I have arguments about this all the time online.

02:07:50.020 So, it's like, you know, dad bod, like, through the years, having a child, we work out less,

02:07:55.220 but we love each other that much.

02:07:56.760 Like, you know, okay, 15 pounds, right?

02:07:58.600 But, objectively, like, would I choose a dude with a dad bod if I was single over a dude

02:08:02.940 with a six pack?

02:08:03.620 No.

02:08:04.100 No way.

02:08:04.560 Like, why do you have that?

02:08:06.220 No, I agree.

02:08:07.140 But, let's also agree that, you know, it's more common for a woman to date a man with

02:08:11.460 an incredible personality and a great life and this and that and the other thing with

02:08:14.860 less of the looks, you know, whereas for a guy, looks are a huge proponent.

02:08:19.300 Disagree.

02:08:19.820 I don't think so.

02:08:20.780 Disagree.

02:08:20.980 You disagree?

02:08:21.780 Like, okay, have you seen the amount of single men?

02:08:23.720 Remember I said 60% from 18 to 29?

02:08:26.800 This is, like, pure research data that just came out.

02:08:28.480 And I'll show you guys all this after the show.

02:08:30.300 Like, they're single and they're not even looking.

02:08:32.260 There's an element of nihilism because a lot of men are invisible to women.

02:08:35.180 There's other data, too.

02:08:36.420 Only one in three.

02:08:37.220 And this was actually, like, per the state of California.

02:08:39.240 But, I mean, you could just, like, see in public, if you listen to your ovaries, how

02:08:42.020 many men you'd say yes to, how many men you would say no to.

02:08:43.960 So, it's, like, one in three and one in five men has sexual access, right?

02:08:48.320 And part of that one in three stat.

02:08:49.620 One in three and one in five men?

02:08:51.260 What does that mean?

02:08:51.740 So, it's a, because it's a reference range, right?

02:08:53.480 Okay.

02:08:53.600 So, I've met, I've seen studies where it's as stringent as one in five men are having

02:08:58.100 sex.

02:08:58.300 Okay. 0.97

02:08:58.440 And as, like, liberal as one in three men are having sex, right? 0.60

02:09:01.440 Okay.

02:09:01.800 But then that, with that one in three stat, it's actually, like, one in three men either

02:09:05.460 hasn't had sex in the last year or is a virgin by age 30, right?

02:09:09.060 Do you see, like, where this stuff is a little bit, like, we like to say, yeah, you know,

02:09:13.800 I would go for a guy that was a little bit not as attractive, who just had all the great

02:09:17.980 stuff, but are we actually doing it?

02:09:20.920 Because at the end of the day, like, the men that you pick, y'all are cute.

02:09:22.280 I can speak for myself, I am, like, I 100% am.

02:09:26.040 My boyfriend is 5'7".

02:09:27.400 I've never dated a boy that's over 5'7".

02:09:30.480 Hold on, hold on.

02:09:31.300 Like, I don't mean height.

02:09:32.080 Like, is his face cute to you?

02:09:34.500 My current boyfriend, yes.

02:09:36.020 The other ones, I've always dated men who are, like, boys, who are much less attractive

02:09:41.920 to me, and in my personal opinion, and I feel like maybe some of you guys can agree with

02:09:45.300 this, I like dating people that I am more attractive than.

02:09:48.500 Yeah, well, hold on, hold on, but you like leverage, that's fine, but it's like, hold

02:09:51.120 on, wait a minute.

02:09:51.660 Yeah.

02:09:51.840 You talked about, you talked about those guys, right?

02:09:53.600 You said your boyfriend right now, you like his face.

02:09:55.920 Yes, I love his face.

02:09:56.240 You said the last guys, you were like, eh, but that's what I'm saying, like, where are

02:09:59.020 they now?

02:09:59.360 I loved them at the time.

02:10:00.000 Where are they, but like.

02:10:00.580 The personality broke the deal, it was not the face.

02:10:03.580 Yeah, it wasn't the looks.

02:10:04.200 No, no, no, like, I'm saying, like, okay, that's, well, that might be fair.

02:10:07.600 That might be fair.

02:10:08.260 I'm just saying, I think it's possible that we're choosing men that we find attractive,

02:10:12.160 and we like to say, like, we'll go for, like, the broke, sweet dude.

02:10:16.720 And also, I don't want a broke, sweet dude, I want a hard-working man.

02:10:21.820 Also, women overrate themselves in terms of their own physical attractiveness. 1.00

02:10:26.300 That, that's, that is, is that true?

02:10:29.720 Yeah, like, we have girls come on the show that say they're tens. 1.00

02:10:32.080 But, like, talk to most women, because, um, it's like, this weird thing happens when you

02:10:36.000 hit a certain age, um, where women can't psychologically comprehend or process, like, oh, I'm not as 0.94

02:10:41.000 beautiful as I used to be, right?

02:10:42.020 Yeah.

02:10:42.300 Like, I peaked at 24, I'm completely okay with it.

02:10:44.580 There's a lot of single, older women freaking out on TikTok over that stuff. 1.00

02:10:49.540 Yeah.

02:10:49.780 So, like, in order to cope with that, that, like, I age, maybe I don't have the guy that

02:10:53.680 I want, they'll start to go through these mental gymnastics and be like, no, no, no, like,

02:10:56.900 I'm, like, I'm a 10 because I, like, inside, like, that makes me 10 outside.

02:11:00.460 No, like, beauty is a harsh judge, and some of us just don't have it.

02:11:03.120 So, a lot of women are like that. 1.00

02:11:04.420 Is there data statistics that show that?

02:11:05.960 I mean, we'd have to ask Rolo Tomasi, so I'll, I'll, I'll try to find out for you.

02:11:10.160 I have a question.

02:11:11.240 What's up?

02:11:11.960 Have you guys seen, um, there's this new website, and I, some guy made it, and, um,

02:11:19.660 it's, like,

02:11:20.120 The calculator, the delusion calculator.

02:11:22.060 Have you guys seen the delusion calculator?

02:11:24.300 So, my boyfriend is, like, I don't know, I want to say, like, I can find, he's, like,

02:11:30.480 11% of the population or something, and I, like, I don't know.

02:11:35.180 It looks wise?

02:11:35.960 Is that what that means?

02:11:36.540 So, it's a calculator.

02:11:37.820 Do you want to explain it?

02:11:38.660 I feel like you could explain it better.

02:11:40.580 It's basically a delusion calculator where women can put in their ideal men and see what 1.00

02:11:45.760 percent of the world is actually, and they have one for women, too. 0.97

02:11:48.900 It's in the, well, it's, it's within the United States, and the metrics are, uh, age, height,

02:11:54.620 income, race, uh, I'm trying to, like, is he obese?

02:11:58.680 Is he married?

02:11:59.460 Body style, divorced.

02:11:59.880 Is he, like, how many of us, like, real talk, like, how many of us are trying to pursue obese

02:12:03.860 men, right?

02:12:04.840 Nobody.

02:12:05.340 Zero.

02:12:05.480 Okay, okay, okay, next question.

02:12:07.180 How many of us are trying to pursue overweight men?

02:12:09.560 That might be different.

02:12:10.420 Not me.

02:12:10.680 Not you?

02:12:11.260 Okay, 73.6% of the American population is overweight to include obesity.

02:12:15.380 You see what I'm saying?

02:12:15.960 So, like, we're like, yeah, well, like, we would forgive his looks.

02:12:18.900 But are we doing it, though?

02:12:20.340 And it's okay to have those standards.

02:12:21.720 Well, but that's, that's different.

02:12:22.800 You know, I, you know, there's weight, and then there's looks, because looks, you're born

02:12:27.600 with.

02:12:28.260 Weight, to me, personally, throughout my life, I have had some health issues, and at a young

02:12:36.780 age, I learned to very seriously value my body and how I treat it.

02:12:41.760 I exercise religiously.

02:12:43.360 I try to eat very well.

02:12:44.660 Well, it's very important to me to treat my body well.

02:12:48.640 It's a vessel that God gave me, and it's important to treat it well.

02:12:51.580 I think that the majority of overweight people do not treat their body well.

02:12:57.620 And if you're not eating, you're not, or you're not eating well, and you're not exercising,

02:13:01.560 you're probably not respecting your body.

02:13:03.540 That's the deal breaker for me.

02:13:04.840 If you are a big-boned person who takes care of yourself and, you know, eats well, works

02:13:10.620 out, then, yeah, I, I, and you have a great personality.

02:13:13.660 I could see myself being with someone like that.

02:13:15.600 But someone who does not take care of themselves, no.

02:13:19.160 Yeah.

02:13:19.720 Yeah, and that's where the guys are coming from, because, like, most dudes would, most

02:13:23.440 dudes would date and also marry, too, because it's, like, they associate marriage with sex.

02:13:27.960 They're like, oh, like, if I marry her, she's going to sleep with me, right?

02:13:29.900 Like, most of those guys, they would date or marry, in general, the male population, they

02:13:35.100 would date or marry an overweight or obese woman, right? 0.50

02:13:37.960 Whereas, like, for us, we're like, no, no, no, no, no, like, that's not going to fly.

02:13:41.360 So that's a lot of the times what people are talking about.

02:13:43.280 But, I mean, eggs are expensive, sperm is cheap, that's a common phrase that's used.

02:13:47.520 I don't know if you guys get that phrase.

02:13:48.600 Do you guys get that phrase?

02:13:49.840 Yeah.

02:13:50.280 I'm like, you know, it'd be like that.

02:13:51.800 All I'm saying is be worth it.

02:13:52.960 Like, you can't demand, you know, a high-value man and then be a low-value woman yourself. 0.80

02:13:57.720 Like, that's just not cool, right?

02:13:59.420 It's not what I would want for my son.

02:14:00.480 It's just never, it's never going to happen.

02:14:02.020 You're never going to find a relationship.

02:14:04.060 Yeah, yeah.

02:14:05.380 Okay, so I want to bring it back here to body count really quick, because you mentioned

02:14:09.200 the whole purity thing.

02:14:10.900 You had an issue with it.

02:14:13.480 Rin, did you have any thoughts on that?

02:14:15.680 I want to bring you in so you're not compelled to dance mid-show.

02:14:20.140 No, I mean, I already said, like, my thoughts, like, let it cook.

02:14:26.180 Um, like, just, like, I don't want somebody who has, like, a high body count either.

02:14:31.060 Oh, right.

02:14:31.720 Okay, I remember you saying that.

02:14:32.580 But you said you wanted to wait to get married, though.

02:14:34.820 Wait.

02:14:35.280 When did I say that?

02:14:36.060 No, no, no.

02:14:36.340 You might not have.

02:14:36.960 Like, I've talked to, like, a lot of women, right? 0.99

02:14:38.860 So it's like, I might be placing you wrong.

02:14:40.600 Not all.

02:14:42.660 Okay, I'm not going to.

02:14:43.420 No, no, no, no.

02:14:44.660 No, no, no.

02:14:45.500 So that was a literal question.

02:14:47.020 Like, I can't remember.

02:14:48.740 I'm a human being who forgets things sometimes, right?

02:14:52.080 I could have forgotten or misinterpreted what you might have said earlier.

02:14:55.860 That's normal.

02:14:56.480 I'm a person processing data and information.

02:14:58.400 So, like, did you say earlier that, like, you wanted to wait to get married or something?

02:15:03.180 You said it wasn't on your mind.

02:15:04.280 No.

02:15:05.240 Wait, what?

02:15:06.000 I think you did say that.

02:15:06.740 Oh, I said, no.

02:15:07.380 Wait, wait, wait.

02:15:08.240 Wait, what she's saying?

02:15:09.160 Yeah, go ahead.

02:15:10.180 Wait.

02:15:10.940 Like, wait, what do you mean?

02:15:11.980 Like, I want to, like, get married, like, later in my life?

02:15:14.400 But, yeah, you said, yeah, okay.

02:15:16.280 So, like, you want a guy with a little body count, but you want to get married later in life.

02:15:19.420 You see what I'm saying?

02:15:20.120 Like, that was the point I was trying to get at.

02:15:21.800 Like, how are you going to achieve that?

02:15:23.460 Because, I mean, if he's like a 27-year-old virgin, you might be like, ah.

02:15:26.380 You're like, yeah.

02:15:26.780 Well, I mean, like, I just don't want, like, just the thing is, like, if somebody has a high body count, just in my mind, like, I'm not saying this is true, but in my mind, I would see them as, like, oh, so they find, like, many girls, like, many girls attractive enough to sleep with.

02:15:41.700 And that would just make me insecure, like, if I were to marry him. 0.68

02:15:46.340 So, you're saying he'd sleep with an ugly chick? 1.00

02:15:48.820 Is that what you're saying? 0.99

02:15:49.900 Yeah.

02:15:50.160 And you'd think, like, am I ugly?

02:15:52.360 Yeah.

02:15:52.720 Oh, my gosh.

02:15:53.560 I feel that.

02:15:54.320 Like, my question was just, like, you said marriage wasn't on your mind, but do you want to be married one day?

02:15:58.820 Yeah.

02:15:59.080 Yeah, and then you said, like, you don't want a guy with a high body count, but if you, like, wait to get married, like, most likely, the longer you wait to do that for both men and women, the likelihood that these people have had, like, higher body counts, it kind of goes up.

02:16:09.640 That was the point that I was making.

02:16:11.280 I'm not, like, trying to checkmate you or anything like that.

02:16:13.220 I never said that.

02:16:14.520 Okay.

02:16:14.880 Okay, moving on.

02:16:16.420 Let's talk really quick about body count.

02:16:18.320 So, should body count matter?

02:16:19.900 Just a quick yes or no.

02:16:20.760 Go ahead.

02:16:21.960 Should body count matter?

02:16:22.860 Yes.

02:16:23.940 Yeah.

02:16:24.560 Yes.

02:16:25.560 Yes.

02:16:26.600 Yes.

02:16:28.480 Yeah.

02:16:28.760 I don't believe that, yes, Sophia.

02:16:32.720 Because of what I said earlier, so kind of contradicts it a little bit.

02:16:35.660 Well, I mean, the yes itself didn't sound particularly convincing, and.

02:16:41.940 Does body, like, do I prefer.

02:16:44.480 Okay, let me rephrase the question.

02:16:46.120 Do you take issue or do you take quarrel, and I'm asking this to all of you, if a man has a preference for a woman with a low body count, do you take issue with that?

02:16:55.320 Yes or no, or just, like, or explain.

02:17:00.340 Whatever.

02:17:01.620 I don't think it's, like, a huge issue.

02:17:04.000 Like, everybody has, like, their own preferences. 0.97

02:17:06.160 Obviously, it's, like, the way they say it, if they're, like, oh, like, she's a slut, like, it's, like, okay, like, calm down. 0.99

02:17:12.060 But if he has his own preference, like, that's fine. 0.99

02:17:14.760 I don't, yeah.

02:17:15.500 Like, I was saying earlier, it's, yes, it's preference, but also, I think when it gets to the point where they're, it's, like, a fetish, almost.

02:17:25.280 I don't know if that's the right word for them to be pure or be this, like, not, like, she hasn't been touched.

02:17:31.440 Like, she's, you know, like, a virgin.

02:17:33.320 Like, I think when it gets to that point, and it's, it just starts to get really gross.

02:17:37.500 It's, like, do you want to date a child?

02:17:39.100 There it is.

02:17:40.040 You know what I mean? 0.97

02:17:40.440 All right, so men who want to date women with a low body count are pedos? 0.88

02:17:50.920 No, no, definitely. 0.98

02:17:52.560 You said child.

02:17:53.620 No, but when it gets to the point where that's all they, it matters so much to them, you know?

02:17:59.080 I mean, an adult woman can be a virgin.

02:18:01.380 Yeah, totally.

02:18:03.220 Well, I think that there's a huge problem with, like.

02:18:06.960 I think that what she's trying.

02:18:08.080 Hold on, let her finish. 0.99

02:18:09.200 I think you can, you can.

02:18:11.040 No, no, no, you go ahead.

02:18:12.940 I don't know how to articulate this correctly, but.

02:18:15.400 Attempt.

02:18:16.240 Children are born virgins is the point. 0.98

02:18:19.140 What the?

02:18:19.440 No, you're, like.

02:18:20.200 Like, you, you, you know, you're young.

02:18:21.780 You have not done that.

02:18:22.980 So, sometimes when it gets to such an extreme and people.

02:18:26.660 Is it extreme to want someone who's not promiscuous?

02:18:30.140 Not to want.

02:18:31.280 Not to.

02:18:32.200 Not preference.

02:18:32.980 No, not at all.

02:18:33.520 No.

02:18:33.800 But if someone is, like, I would never sleep with anyone that's even been touched by a man.

02:18:38.780 Like, and, and I don't think that's very many people at all.

02:18:41.600 I don't think that's very many people. 0.98

02:18:42.320 So, all Christians and all Muslims, you're saying that they're pedophiles. 0.80

02:18:47.120 Is that what you're saying? 0.99

02:18:48.060 There is a high rate of pedophilia in those religions.

02:18:51.560 What?

02:18:53.300 That's not a good thing to say.

02:18:54.400 No, no, no, like, that's, like, that's just not a good argument.

02:18:56.500 Like, that's a straw man.

02:18:57.460 Like, I understand what you guys are saying, right?

02:19:00.100 The reality is, and this is why, this is what I was talking about earlier.

02:19:03.680 And I don't know, like, for some reason why this is, like, perceived as a racial lens or something like that.

02:19:07.960 I just literally talk to a lot of women. 1.00

02:19:09.460 It has nothing to do with the way that you look, okay?

02:19:11.800 It was just, the chat was doing a lot, all right?

02:19:13.660 The chat was doing a lot.

02:19:14.280 Don't worry about that.

02:19:14.840 Don't worry about that.

02:19:15.420 Right?

02:19:15.440 But, like, what I'm trying to say is, like, when it comes to a low body count and being a virgin,

02:19:20.960 it does correlate with age, right?

02:19:22.780 Yeah.

02:19:23.020 But we have a hard time, like, separating the value of purity versus, like, the value of, like, a woman being more girlish. 0.96

02:19:30.200 But some of this stuff isn't necessarily bad.

02:19:32.100 Like, have you noticed that women that are petite, and I mean, like, short, and they're also, like, small, right? 1.00

02:19:38.780 A lot of men seem to really enjoy that.

02:19:40.620 Have you noticed that?

02:19:41.500 Absolutely, yeah.

02:19:42.160 So, like, it triggers a protective instinct in men that's, like, coveted.

02:19:45.920 And it's called, it's this concept called neoteny.

02:19:48.080 Because if you think about it, when a woman acts kind of like a girl or looks more girlish, right? 1.00

02:19:51.880 Short, petite, that's valued.

02:19:54.540 If a guy is, like, small and boyish, is that valued?

02:19:57.620 No.

02:19:58.240 Yeah, right?

02:19:58.840 Because it's only attractive if, like, women are closer to that girlness. 0.99

02:20:02.840 And even if she's, like, a tiny old lady, right? 0.99

02:20:05.580 There's still, like, an element of that there.

02:20:07.360 Right.

02:20:07.560 So, it's, like, we often try to demonize this thing, because men value purity, when we probably don't need to be doing that, right?

02:20:15.980 Like, it could just be a fact, and that's okay, right?

02:20:18.820 Lots of men value purity.

02:20:20.340 That's, like, it's a normal historical thing.

02:20:22.060 I think that we get upset, because the reality is, is that a lot of us, I think that we live in a world past hormonal birth control, right?

02:20:31.980 Virginity is just not that common anymore.

02:20:33.740 And that's really hard to recollect, both for women and also for men.

02:20:37.740 But I think at the end of the day, people would still, that are looking for relationships, want people with low body counts.

02:20:42.440 And that's okay.

02:20:42.960 That's perfectly acceptable.

02:20:43.940 But if we're going to value that, then we need to be coupling up in our 20s.

02:20:48.180 Do you see?

02:20:49.000 Yeah, absolutely.

02:20:49.720 Little Red Riding Hood need a reality check. 1.00

02:20:56.380 Which one is that?

02:20:57.680 I'm guessing that's me.

02:20:59.880 Was Little Red Riding Hood a redhead?

02:21:01.900 No, but that's probably what they're just calling.

02:21:04.300 Why?

02:21:05.520 Okay, so bringing it back to body count really quick, I don't know if everyone got to go around on, would you take issue with a man who cared about your body count?

02:21:16.640 Would I take issue with it?

02:21:17.400 I think you answered.

02:21:20.940 No, I wouldn't have an issue if a man cared about my body count. 0.90

02:21:24.960 Nope.

02:21:25.860 Nope.

02:21:26.620 Okay.

02:21:27.480 What's your body count?

02:21:29.540 I don't feel comfortable saying that to like millions of people.

02:21:32.440 Yeah, I'd rather not say.

02:21:33.620 Yeah.

02:21:33.920 Anybody?

02:21:34.420 Anybody want to share?

02:21:35.380 Definitely no comment.

02:21:36.180 No comment?

02:21:36.600 No?

02:21:39.760 And before anyone says anything, that doesn't mean that we're...

02:21:42.620 Yeah, no, I just, I personally keep that part of my life.

02:21:45.280 Like, I think that's a sacred thing.

02:21:47.060 And I like to keep that private.

02:21:48.820 And I just, you know, that's something for me and anyone that I choose to share that with.

02:21:53.660 You know, not for the public.

02:21:55.740 All right, I'm going to get through some super chats here.

02:21:57.300 Stephen Wagner, thank you for the 50.

02:21:59.040 Go ahead, Rin, read this.

02:22:01.200 No one should down marriage.

02:22:02.540 I married my wife when she was 24 and I was 20.

02:22:05.200 18 years later, we have a 12-year-old son.

02:22:06.900 She wanted to be married because of her cultural Japanese.

02:22:10.620 She's feminine.

02:22:11.280 I am masculine.

02:22:11.880 So she is happy having a family.

02:22:13.440 Yo, Stephen.

02:22:13.960 Thank you, man.

02:22:14.440 Appreciate it.

02:22:15.160 Thank you.

02:22:15.760 Yo, Martin.

02:22:16.480 Thank you, man.

02:22:17.760 Rin, as impressed as I am with your proper pronunciation of the letter L rather than R in the place

02:22:22.220 of L. Unfortunately, you've reached your limit on the word like for this evening.

02:22:26.660 Okay.

02:22:27.400 Okay, Martin.

02:22:28.200 Thank you, man.

02:22:28.600 Appreciate it.

02:22:29.760 Whatever that means.

02:22:31.080 You paid $50 to say that.

02:22:33.600 I know.

02:22:34.200 That's really funny.

02:22:35.420 By the way, guys, if you're just tuning in, we did adjust the super chat threshold and

02:22:41.400 the TTS threshold.

02:22:42.640 So 50 and up to be read, 100 plus triggers TTS.

02:22:46.500 If you do it through Streamlabs, it's 45 plus to be read and 90 plus triggers TTS.

02:22:50.900 Eric, can you pull up the Streamlabs tab?

02:22:54.920 I'm going to read a couple of these.

02:22:58.960 Let me know when you have it.

02:23:00.540 Yeah.

02:23:01.160 I think it's the first one.

02:23:03.660 Go a bit bigger.

02:23:04.800 Bigger, bigger, bigger.

02:23:06.980 Up, up, up.

02:23:07.960 Nope.

02:23:08.240 We're good.

02:23:08.920 It's just this one.

02:23:09.660 Thomas.

02:23:10.100 Thank you, man. 1.00

02:23:10.880 Ladies, men give love to get sex while women give sex to get love. 1.00

02:23:14.960 It is always a transaction. 0.99

02:23:16.380 Also, men fall in love with their eyes while women fall in love with their ears. 0.66

02:23:21.380 That's poetic.

02:23:23.360 Yeah.

02:23:23.680 Beautiful.

02:23:24.360 Shakespeare in the flesh.

02:23:25.400 Thank you, Thomas.

02:23:26.380 Much appreciated.

02:23:27.440 That's nice.

02:23:27.840 Awesome.

02:23:28.740 All right.

02:23:29.280 So we're going to react to a video.

02:23:33.100 Do we do the Drew Afwala?

02:23:35.320 I'm sorry.

02:23:35.940 I can't pronounce her name.

02:23:38.700 It's the title of the video.

02:23:39.800 I guess we have to do it.

02:23:40.620 But all right, so if you don't know, this was from like two shows back, and we were kind

02:23:46.220 of talking about this.

02:23:47.140 So a girl on the show said she was a 10, and I wasn't mean to her, but I just said, listen,

02:23:53.420 I'm going to be honest with you.

02:23:54.260 You're not a 10.

02:23:55.040 I'm not going to rate you, but you're not a 10.

02:23:58.340 You know, it's a bit blunt.

02:24:00.360 However, you know, I wasn't insulting about it, I suppose, entirely.

02:24:04.620 In any case, this fairly famous TikToker, Drew Afwalo, she's got a podcast.

02:24:13.340 I don't know.

02:24:14.240 She's got like 7 mil on TikTok or something. 0.99

02:24:16.360 I don't know how much she has on TikTok.

02:24:18.140 Maybe like 700,000 on Instagram.

02:24:20.540 Anyways, she reacted.

02:24:22.580 So we're going to react to that.

02:24:23.520 Eric, I may have you pause at a moment.

02:24:25.300 So if you can pull up that video.

02:24:28.020 Women have dating on easy. 1.00

02:24:29.740 Nope.

02:24:31.020 What is it?

02:24:31.860 It's the Drew Afwalo one. 0.93

02:24:36.360 Do you know who that is?

02:24:37.280 Mm-hmm.

02:24:38.320 Oh, good.

02:24:38.900 It should be up.

02:24:40.140 Good.

02:24:40.600 Yeah, we're pretty cool.

02:24:43.140 Oh, blue hair.

02:24:47.120 There should only be a few videos on the tab.

02:24:51.360 It shouldn't.

02:24:52.300 Don't read the name.

02:24:53.240 Just find one of the videos.

02:24:57.540 Okay.

02:24:59.820 I may have you pause at Eric, so go ahead.

02:25:01.860 Okay, so you think you're a 10?

02:25:06.180 Yeah.

02:25:07.600 I think I'm gorgeous.

02:25:08.780 I think I'm perfect.

02:25:09.460 Listen, don't take this the wrong way.

02:25:11.060 You're not a 10.

02:25:11.580 Please lay it on me.

02:25:12.540 I've seen this.

02:25:13.360 Okay.

02:25:13.840 That's just your opinion.

02:25:15.040 All right. 0.65

02:25:15.620 First of all, every time I feel like we stamp out a roach, aka a white man with a podcast,

02:25:22.040 pause it.

02:25:22.420 Like this.

02:25:23.160 He contributes lip.

02:25:24.860 That was rude.

02:25:25.680 That was rude.

02:25:26.360 That was so rude.

02:25:27.360 So I just want to point something out to you guys.

02:25:30.940 Cockro...

02:25:31.420 She said, every time we stamp out a cockroach, aka a white man with a podcast, that is first 0.53

02:25:41.600 off on its face racist, which by the way, apparently it's acceptable in society to be racist against 0.89

02:25:48.740 white people.

02:25:49.340 Well, it's not a thing.

02:25:50.680 You actually can't be racist against white people.

02:25:52.680 Wait, what?

02:25:53.360 I'm just kidding, but...

02:25:55.120 That was a joke.

02:25:55.800 Oh, it was a joke.

02:25:56.900 Yeah.

02:25:57.340 Yeah.

02:25:57.760 People really believe that.

02:25:58.720 But...

02:25:59.160 Yeah.

02:26:00.040 I'm kind of an actress.

02:26:00.960 If she said cockroach, aka a white person with a podcast, that on its face is a racist statement. 0.99

02:26:10.980 She's saying white people with podcasts, white men, I suppose, are cockroaches. 1.00

02:26:19.620 Bruv, if you said that shit, and she has, keep in mind, she has like a legit production 1.00

02:26:25.820 around her. 1.00

02:26:26.520 She's like, I don't know what she has going on. 0.82

02:26:28.740 She's got some major deal. 1.00

02:26:29.620 Like, bro, you would be fucking canceled if you replaced white man with anything else. 0.99

02:26:38.120 So, right away, I'm just like, bruv, ad hominem. 0.99

02:26:43.000 Anyways, continue playing the clip, Eric. 0.99

02:26:47.460 Damn about a roach, aka a white man with a podcast like this. 0.99

02:26:52.680 He contributes literally nothing other than his bigoted opinions that he thinks are new 1.00

02:26:58.120 and inventive.

02:26:58.900 Two more replace it.

02:27:00.460 That's what she's saying. 1.00

02:27:01.240 You bitches are multiplying like bunnies, huh? 1.00

02:27:03.520 And I digress. 1.00

02:27:04.460 You know what I mean?

02:27:05.080 This clip literally proves what I've said over and over and over again.

02:27:08.600 This man is looking in her eyes and telling her, no offense, you're not a 10.

02:27:12.360 She's going, that doesn't offend me.

02:27:14.280 That's just your opinion.

02:27:15.320 And there's this like pause where he's like...

02:27:18.900 Did you hear me? 0.97

02:27:20.480 I just called you ugly. 1.00

02:27:21.520 Nope. 0.99

02:27:21.940 Again.

02:27:22.500 Nope.

02:27:22.760 Didn't say that. 1.00

02:27:23.900 It doesn't bother her that this fucking bitch who looks like he sells Bibles for a living 1.00

02:27:29.020 thinks she's ugly. 1.00

02:27:30.080 It bothers him that it doesn't bother her. 0.81

02:27:33.280 He like continues to try to antagonize her.

02:27:36.140 Not really.

02:27:36.520 I'm not going to rate you.

02:27:36.940 Listen, I'm not going to rate you.

02:27:37.760 But if I were, if I were going to rate you, it's not a 10. 1.00

02:27:40.000 This bitch doesn't fucking care. 1.00

02:27:41.880 Not even a little bit. 1.00

02:27:42.880 And that's how you all should be.

02:27:44.860 You know why? 1.00

02:27:45.660 Because social currency with men is fucking worthless, bitch. 1.00

02:27:49.680 Look at this man. 1.00

02:27:51.080 He could be 48 or 21. 0.99

02:27:53.560 If I were to seek counsel on the opinions of good luck, why the fuck would I ask the general 1.00

02:27:59.460 manager of State Farm, bitch? 1.00

02:28:00.960 You can pause it there. 1.00

02:28:02.540 Why would I ask him?

02:28:03.040 I wouldn't.

02:28:03.780 See, that's the T.

02:28:04.040 You can pause it there.

02:28:04.840 Men hate nothing more.

02:28:07.420 Oh, actually, sorry. 1.00

02:28:08.680 She was about to say some other dumb shit. 1.00

02:28:10.180 Go ahead. 1.00

02:28:10.980 Keep it going. 1.00

02:28:16.200 Ask the general manager of State Farm, bitch. 1.00

02:28:18.620 Why would I ask him? 1.00

02:28:20.700 I wouldn't.

02:28:21.420 See, that's the T. 0.99

02:28:22.280 Men hate nothing more than when you don't give a shit what they think about you, especially 0.99

02:28:27.860 when it comes to looks. 1.00

02:28:29.320 Same thing goes for when they call you fat. 1.00

02:28:31.440 You say that to me all the goddamn time. 1.00

02:28:33.240 First of all, fat's not an insult. 1.00

02:28:34.700 Second of all, I'd think that too if I still had to sit in a car seat.

02:28:37.880 You know what I mean?

02:28:38.480 Like, my response to that is send me a picture of you.

02:28:41.020 I love to talk about what other people look like. 1.00

02:28:43.100 I'll do it for free, bitch. 1.00

02:28:44.640 Their opinions of me especially and my looks are worth nothing more than white dog shit, 1.00

02:28:50.600 bitch. 1.00

02:28:51.000 Instead of going on godforsaken podcasts like this one, tell them to crawl back in that 1.00

02:28:56.020 sewer, bitch. 1.00

02:28:56.860 Those kids aren't going to eat themselves. 1.00

02:28:59.320 Bye.

02:29:01.480 Yikes. 1.00

02:29:02.500 That's, I don't know if that's BPD or what that is, but, um, and by the white dog shit, 1.00

02:29:08.200 again. 1.00

02:29:08.800 That confused me.

02:29:09.660 I think she's talking about white people again.

02:29:12.540 Like, racism is basically streamlined, mainstream, acceptable against white people.

02:29:21.320 Um, so first off, I don't think I'm like a, I'm like a fairly average looking guy. 0.88

02:29:26.280 So, uh, I, like, I'm not saying, oh, I'm the hot, I'm fucking hot and you're not.

02:29:31.880 We have a segment on the show where the girls rate themselves and she rated herself a 10.

02:29:38.480 None of the, I'm pretty sure none of the other girls on the panel rating themselves

02:29:41.300 a 10.

02:29:42.100 I'm going to tell her, I'm going to, I'm just be honest.

02:29:43.840 I'm going to say you're not a 10 because one of the major issues in the dating marketplace

02:29:47.680 is when people have a delusional or un, unrealistic self-perception of their own attractiveness.

02:29:56.200 If you think you're a 10, you're going to be chasing guys who are 10.

02:29:58.520 If you think how many, like for both men and women, how many cocky, do you guys know 1.00

02:30:04.220 any guys who think they're hot shit, but they're not? 0.99

02:30:07.400 I do. 1.00

02:30:08.200 Yeah.

02:30:08.720 And it's, that's not, that's not good.

02:30:11.780 Absolutely.

02:30:12.460 I think both men and women ought to value humility and humbleness.

02:30:16.520 Right. 0.96

02:30:16.720 And so I'm just, I, by asking this question, if someone's like being ridiculous with their

02:30:21.900 answer, I'm trying to offer up a bit of humility and humbleness and be like, look, if you think

02:30:28.880 you're a 10, like the big thing I see is if you think you're a 10, you're going to look at a guy

02:30:34.240 who's actually on your level and be like, I'm settling for that guy.

02:30:38.280 You're not going to treat him well, or you're just not even going to give him a chance to begin

02:30:41.460 with.

02:30:41.860 So my thing is, is like, that's kind of the issue in the dating marketplace.

02:30:45.460 Now is the guys who are actually on your level, a lot of, and this is mostly women, some guys

02:30:52.120 too, though, you know, you hear this trope about like these basement dwelling trolls or

02:30:56.560 whatever, that just play video games, live in their mom's house that want Victoria's 0.98

02:30:59.840 secret models.

02:31:00.340 I actually don't think that's true.

02:31:01.820 I think the reverse is true, but you're not going to be able to secure like that guy.

02:31:08.080 If you think you're a 10, you're anyway, in any case, do you have a response?

02:31:13.260 Do you have any thoughts on the video?

02:31:15.260 Well, I mean, I'm sure you have like some female viewers up in here. 1.00

02:31:19.120 I would encourage you as women, like you really need to curate the content that you watch because

02:31:23.300 my problem with Drew Afualo is like not necessarily that she's out of pocket or anything like that.

02:31:28.920 Like it's, it's gross. 0.82

02:31:30.200 It's not feminine. 0.97

02:31:30.860 It's disgusting. 0.97

02:31:31.520 Sure. 0.97

02:31:31.780 And she does like a lot of ad hominem attacks, but she makes a lot of misandrous content. 1.00

02:31:37.840 She makes a lot of man-hating content because did you see what she said? 0.65

02:31:40.740 She took what Brian did and she said, men hate it when you ignore what they think about

02:31:45.280 your looks.

02:31:46.100 Like generalizing.

02:31:46.980 Yeah.

02:31:47.240 Generalizing.

02:31:47.680 Like that's not true.

02:31:48.640 That's not how most men are.

02:31:49.680 But every time she makes these TikToks, she says, this is how all men are. 0.50

02:31:53.020 And she has a very large female following. 0.50

02:31:55.060 So if you're a woman and you're wanting to get married or have children or hopefully like both,

02:31:59.980 right?

02:32:00.180 Like, you know, build your life. 0.92

02:32:01.520 But, um, if you're wanting that, you cannot be watching this misandrous feminist content. 1.00

02:32:07.100 It's the same thing that if a man was wanting that and he was watching misogynistic content,

02:32:11.700 it wouldn't like, how is that going to work?

02:32:13.220 Like you're brainwashing yourself to being a dysfunctional to where you can't have relationships

02:32:16.980 with men.

02:32:17.620 I don't recommend it.

02:32:18.860 I think it's abhorrent.

02:32:19.840 Um, that's what I think about her.

02:32:21.520 I mean, she's just, I don't know.

02:32:23.060 She just does a lot. 0.87

02:32:24.420 So yeah.

02:32:25.700 Anybody else have any thoughts on that?

02:32:26.880 Otherwise I'm happy to move things along.

02:32:28.560 I thought it was funny.

02:32:29.340 Um, it was funny.

02:32:32.080 Yeah.

02:32:32.320 I thought it was really funny.

02:32:33.240 Not that she like made any valid points.

02:32:34.920 I just thought it was like, like I was laughing at her. 0.95

02:32:36.780 It was silly.

02:32:37.600 Oh. 0.84

02:32:37.780 And I think when she said that you looked like, um, what was it?

02:32:41.880 A manager?

02:32:42.800 A manager?

02:32:43.240 A state farm?

02:32:43.800 A priest?

02:32:44.560 Or what'd she say?

02:32:45.220 Oh, he said, he said, he said.

02:32:45.980 Something about selling Bibles.

02:32:47.180 I said that she looked like my youth group counselor when I was younger.

02:32:51.680 I just thought that was funny too.

02:32:53.740 Okay.

02:32:54.640 Um, is it, do I look like a, you have a wholesome little look to you?

02:33:00.680 I'm a wholesome guy.

02:33:01.640 I thought you should have like a guitar.

02:33:03.620 A guitar.

02:33:04.340 In the flannel face.

02:33:04.980 I actually, I do have, I do have a guitar upstairs.

02:33:08.040 It's not you, Brian.

02:33:09.120 It's, it's Cali.

02:33:09.960 Okay.

02:33:10.320 Like this place just does something to people's fashion.

02:33:12.720 Failed society.

02:33:13.240 Like you can't tell if they're homeless or if they're just from here.

02:33:16.200 It's tough.

02:33:16.860 That's funny.

02:33:17.740 Failed society.

02:33:18.500 Okay.

02:33:18.760 Okay.

02:33:18.940 Brian, I have a question.

02:33:19.820 So when you ask, you know, girls to rate themselves, do you ever follow up with a why?

02:33:24.380 Like why are you, whatever number they pick?

02:33:27.860 I usually just take them at their word.

02:33:29.640 I don't prod too much, but, um, yeah, I usually, no, I don't think I've ever asked why.

02:33:36.660 Okay.

02:33:37.260 Yeah.

02:33:37.820 Maybe I should.

02:33:38.600 I feel like that, that lady wanted to be asked why, because she was really pushing 0.99

02:33:42.580 for it.

02:33:43.340 But I'm just wondering, cause I feel like a lot of people will defend, you know, obviously

02:33:49.020 they'll defend themselves and their, what they say, but it would be nice to know like

02:33:54.360 what their mindset is.

02:33:56.380 Sure.

02:33:56.560 But like, like what could she possibly say?

02:33:58.760 And I'm like, I'm not, I'm not trying to like dog on her.

02:34:00.980 Okay.

02:34:01.660 She's not a traditionally attractive woman.

02:34:03.340 Yeah.

02:34:03.480 I'm with you on that.

02:34:04.380 What reasoning could she come up with to be like, I'm a 10?

02:34:07.040 Like, even, even if it's like, well, I'm a 10 because of what we're on the inside.

02:34:09.920 No, no, no.

02:34:10.180 Like we're rating looks, you know?

02:34:11.700 I don't, yeah, that's what I'm going with.

02:34:13.460 Like, are you just going off appearance or are you like, oh, I got a great personality?

02:34:18.280 Like men are the same way if you rate them by social status.

02:34:20.560 Right. 0.97

02:34:20.880 So it's like women are sex objects and then men are success objects. 0.85

02:34:23.860 So it's like, if you ever like call the dude broke and he's like, ah, it's the same thing 0.99

02:34:27.260 as when, you know, an ugly chick. 1.00

02:34:28.280 You're like, just so you know, like you are ugly. 0.99

02:34:30.020 People freak out the same way. 0.94

02:34:31.180 We have one more video to react to after we get through a couple of questions here.

02:34:37.120 So I want to open it up to the table a little bit.

02:34:40.760 What is your most controversial dating take or opinion?

02:34:47.020 Rin.

02:34:48.220 Let me cook a little.

02:34:49.600 All right.

02:34:49.840 Let me go in first.

02:34:53.740 What you got for us, Sophia?

02:34:55.120 I need to think about it a little bit.

02:34:56.720 Anything?

02:34:57.100 This isn't too controversial, but if, if a guy's like, Hey, given the rarity that a guy

02:35:04.020 is like, Hey, let me take you out.

02:35:05.640 Like that is when I'll go out with someone.

02:35:07.580 If he does not get out of the car and given, he picks me up.

02:35:10.980 If he does not get out of the car and open my door for me, I'm not getting in the car.

02:35:15.680 Wait, like a man should open my door.

02:35:20.480 A man should open your door. 0.95

02:35:21.780 And if he doesn't, I'm not getting in the car.

02:35:23.600 I will walk back into my apartment, you know?

02:35:25.920 Okay.

02:35:26.060 So you're talking about chivalry.

02:35:27.380 Yes.

02:35:27.660 Yeah.

02:35:28.420 Okay.

02:35:28.780 You know, like these days, you know, the, the gender equality, we, we wanted equality

02:35:33.580 and the men have answered, right?

02:35:34.660 So that's fine.

02:35:35.060 But I'm not dating all of America.

02:35:36.400 So if, if, if a guy's.

02:35:38.240 So like what I'm trying to say is like, you know, cause I actually care about you guys

02:35:41.420 and want you to be fulfilled.

02:35:42.500 Like maybe let him know that that might be an expectation.

02:35:45.560 Cause these dudes these days, they think y'all want to be.

02:35:47.440 Dudes will be respectful.

02:35:48.340 But if you've, if you've spoken to me enough to ask me out, probably have had a few conversations

02:35:54.120 with you and you, or I would probably not go out with you.

02:35:58.580 If he can't pick that up about me, then.

02:36:00.580 Well, that's, I mean, I don't think they will. 0.99

02:36:02.820 That's kind of dog shit communication. 0.98

02:36:04.640 No offense. 0.99

02:36:05.660 Like a guy needs to assume.

02:36:07.780 Hold on.

02:36:08.920 A guy needs to assume that you want his card, the car door open.

02:36:13.940 Yes.

02:36:14.220 A guy should assume I want him to be the man.

02:36:16.440 They're not going to go.

02:36:17.320 I mean, bro, that's, I think you're asking for a lot.

02:36:19.800 The past three dates I've been on, they've gone out of the car and opened my door.

02:36:22.320 Oh, well, okay.

02:36:23.140 So keep doing it.

02:36:23.520 So I'm, I'm dating the right guys.

02:36:24.940 That's what I'm trying to say.

02:36:25.880 You said, what's my most controversial take?

02:36:27.860 I wouldn't get in the car with a guy who doesn't open my door.

02:36:30.260 Wait, so hold on.

02:36:31.100 You've planned a date and he has that ever happened?

02:36:34.040 No, because I don't say yes to guys that I don't think would open my door.

02:36:37.440 And I've happened to be right.

02:36:38.340 I mean, it's not going on all that many dates.

02:36:39.800 So it's not like, hold on.

02:36:41.260 No, no, no.

02:36:41.580 But it's, it's, to me, it's plausible that you would encounter a guy that you otherwise 0.94

02:36:46.560 think is fantastic, but he's not picking up on your very covert cues of, maybe he fucking 0.94

02:36:55.040 strained his back earlier on in the day. 0.79

02:36:57.500 Then he could tell me, well, you can, you'll work through a strained back, buddy.

02:37:02.000 We can go on a date.

02:37:02.760 You can work through a strained back.

02:37:04.120 I, you know, if I got to the car and he didn't get out, maybe I'd go to the

02:37:07.420 driver's side and I'd say hi.

02:37:09.240 And if he didn't stand up and get out and greet me, shake my hand, give me a hug, whatever.

02:37:15.220 I, I would, you know, probably be like, okay, well, it was nice to see you.

02:37:19.020 And if he did get out, I would walk over to my side and I would not touch the door.

02:37:23.460 My, like my parents, my, my dad opens my door.

02:37:26.360 When I'm home, my dad opens my door.

02:37:27.920 Doesn't matter where I am.

02:37:29.300 So that's my standards.

02:37:30.400 It sounds like you're dating like conservative men.

02:37:31.800 So it means like that you, what you're doing is, is good and effective because you have

02:37:35.320 multiple, you have replicated this thing.

02:37:37.120 You've replicated it three times.

02:37:38.380 You've selected men who opened the door for you and they, they can tell her they already

02:37:41.220 know.

02:37:41.560 So what you're doing is good.

02:37:43.160 However, like I do want, like for the women that are watching before you throw that man 1.00

02:37:46.840 away, you might want to let them know that that's something that you expect or value.

02:37:50.580 Okay.

02:37:50.900 Cause she's, she was raised, right.

02:37:52.340 Okay.

02:37:53.340 But, uh, the rest of y'all, you know, just be considerate.

02:37:55.380 Cause these dudes are not mind readers.

02:37:56.560 Like I can't tell you, open your door. 1.00

02:37:58.300 What the fuck? 1.00

02:37:58.960 I'm not your servant. 1.00

02:38:00.140 That's fine.

02:38:01.560 You're not my servant.

02:38:02.760 My door.

02:38:03.220 My husband opens my door, but you know what I will say?

02:38:05.600 Like when I first met my husband, I opened my door, um, a lot, like quite a bit.

02:38:09.120 And then something happened where we fell into these very traditional gender roles for

02:38:14.120 us or conventional.

02:38:15.320 And he just like magically started opening my door every single time.

02:38:18.220 And now he opens my doors like consistently.

02:38:20.040 And it was just something that he did.

02:38:21.440 And I thought that was like a really interesting change where you can bring that masculinity.

02:38:24.860 Yeah.

02:38:24.960 That's, that's amazing.

02:38:25.980 That's fantastic.

02:38:27.600 Somebody remove that piece. 1.00

02:38:29.680 Oh my God.

02:38:30.100 Yeah.

02:38:30.580 Um, I mean, I just, I think that so much of it, like at this point in my life, I'm not

02:38:35.040 trying to, I don't want to say find a charity case where I have to teach a boy manners.

02:38:41.280 Like my little 14 year old brother opens my door when I'm home too.

02:38:45.680 Like the, okay.

02:38:47.540 I expect that.

02:38:48.400 The floodgates are open. 0.99

02:38:49.840 We are not put, what's that fucking term? 0.99

02:38:52.480 Not putting it back. 0.99

02:38:53.360 There, there's a saying.

02:38:54.820 Um, the door, cats out of the bag.

02:38:58.820 There's a whole bunch of them.

02:39:00.060 In any case, feminism is here. 1.00

02:39:02.220 We have gender equality.

02:39:04.000 You can open your own door.

02:39:05.820 Yes, I can.

02:39:06.320 I can physically open my own door, but you know, for me anyways, for me.

02:39:12.140 So you would, if you're going on a date with a woman, would you open her door?

02:39:15.780 So I'm picking, first off, I would never pick up a girl on a date. 0.98

02:39:19.680 Why?

02:39:20.160 I don't know.

02:39:21.200 Why, why is that shocking?

02:39:22.720 I would never.

02:39:23.160 Would you make her drive to you and pick you up?

02:39:25.200 Well, I would meet her.

02:39:26.700 I would meet her there.

02:39:28.100 Okay, then that's fine.

02:39:30.540 You're just not the kind of guy that I think that a woman who values a manly man would do. 1.00

02:39:35.940 You know, that's, a man should do that.

02:39:38.900 Well, I disagree.

02:39:40.280 I would say conservative.

02:39:41.180 Because there's like, there's plenty of, it's rare these days, but there are masculine, liberal men.

02:39:46.060 They're just like, no, like, we just have this equality.

02:39:48.360 We have an egalitarian relationship.

02:39:49.720 So, like, I get where you're coming from and your strategy is effective.

02:39:53.220 I think, like, a better question to ask is, like, what's your plan in the long run?

02:39:57.980 Let's say you land this guy and he doesn't live up to certain expectations.

02:40:01.140 Like, are you?

02:40:01.800 He stops opening my door?

02:40:02.920 No, not, not, because the door is small.

02:40:05.140 Yeah.

02:40:05.320 But we're talking about, like, we have very, very high standards.

02:40:07.580 And I know you do.

02:40:08.280 And it's because your parents raised you well, right?

02:40:09.780 And, you know, hopefully, like, you can get what you're looking for in the dating market, right?

02:40:12.860 But it's like, what's going to happen?

02:40:14.360 You end up in this long-term relationship where you're married and he isn't meeting an expectation or a standard.

02:40:19.720 Oh, then I would communicate it with him.

02:40:22.500 Okay.

02:40:22.760 If I, when I decide I like a person, if I am.

02:40:25.100 Guys, let her talk. 1.00

02:40:26.060 If I am in a relationship with a person, at that point, I respect them enough to have a conversation and communicate.

02:40:31.860 But I do have a high standard to even considering.

02:40:35.220 Okay. 0.99

02:40:35.240 Let me tell you why I don't think the guy should open the door and pick you up and do all the shit. 0.99

02:40:40.540 The genie's out of the bottle. 0.97

02:40:41.720 Thank you to whoever said that.

02:40:43.900 And maybe the chat's going to disagree.

02:40:45.580 Look, traditional gender roles are gone.

02:40:48.580 They're done. 1.00

02:40:49.100 The fucking cat's out the bag. 1.00

02:40:50.860 Whatever the fuck. 1.00

02:40:51.620 Yeah. 1.00

02:40:51.960 Look, modern women, I'm not going to do the nice guy thing. 1.00

02:40:58.340 I'm not going to be the gentleman if she's not a lady. 1.00

02:41:01.280 And most women are not ladies. 1.00

02:41:04.880 Right.

02:41:05.140 So that's why you're not dating most women.

02:41:07.980 Have some standards for yourself and say, I'm not going out with a girl who, you know, wouldn't act like a lady. 1.00

02:41:15.000 If that's what you're into. 1.00

02:41:16.060 You know, if you're into some weird shit, then you're into some weird shit. 1.00

02:41:19.400 But I know. 1.00

02:41:19.920 Weird shit. 0.99

02:41:20.820 Like, I can't think of what the inverse of a man not opening the door would be. 0.99

02:41:27.940 So I don't exactly know how to compare the situation.

02:41:31.160 But the men that I'm looking to date are high value men who are looking for a high value woman, which I strive to be.

02:41:38.260 That's important to me.

02:41:39.600 And so I do expect my door to be opened and I will act like a lady.

02:41:42.980 Do you want the guy to pay?

02:41:44.180 Do you believe in gender equality?

02:41:46.720 I believe that men and women are equal, but for completely different reasons.

02:41:51.060 Women have pros. 1.00

02:41:52.140 Women have cons. 1.00

02:41:53.360 Men have pros.

02:41:54.100 Men have cons.

02:41:54.600 I think it's the most beautiful symbiotic relationship created by God.

02:41:58.360 And that's why our world works.

02:42:00.080 Sophia, what were you going to say?

02:42:01.040 I was going to bring up the pay thing because an opinion for me, I don't, I guess it's controversial now.

02:42:05.580 I think a guy should pay for the girl when they go out to dinner. 1.00

02:42:09.500 I think.

02:42:10.160 Do you consider yourself a feminist? 1.00

02:42:12.900 I don't, I wouldn't say.

02:42:14.440 Do you believe in gender equality?

02:42:16.660 Yeah.

02:42:16.940 So why should, why should the guy have to pay for you on the first date?

02:42:20.800 Just like what Lindsay's saying.

02:42:21.940 I think that there's a difference.

02:42:23.980 We can separate.

02:42:25.700 Okay.

02:42:25.960 So are you guys traditional women?

02:42:29.520 That's the, that's a really broad question.

02:42:31.420 I think that.

02:42:32.280 You're expecting men to adhere to their traditional gender roles. 0.96

02:42:37.040 Are you a traditional woman yourself?

02:42:39.020 Because you don't, equality is not a buffet where you get to pick and choose.

02:42:43.640 Yeah, absolutely.

02:42:44.180 That which benefits you and you say no to that which doesn't.

02:42:48.540 Well, can you give me some traditional women behaviors that I can, you know, I do or don't do this? 1.00

02:42:54.420 Well, I mean, oh, I mean, I, so yeah, I can do this.

02:42:57.480 Um, so, and it's not you gotcha.

02:42:59.640 We're just like, we're playing with mental models here.

02:43:01.700 So like you said, your parents raised you conservative.

02:43:03.860 So I'm going to ask you a question, question, but before I ask you the question, I'm going to let you know, like I'm Christian.

02:43:07.600 So my next question is, are you Christian?

02:43:09.540 No, I'm Jewish.

02:43:10.560 Okay.

02:43:11.000 Okay.

02:43:11.280 But you're Abrahamic. 0.51

02:43:12.860 I'm kind of a bad Jew.

02:43:13.960 Like I, you know, I went to temple growing up.

02:43:16.260 I'm a, I would consider myself a spiritual person, not religious.

02:43:19.700 Do you think that you hold Jewish values?

02:43:23.040 Yes.

02:43:23.660 Okay.

02:43:24.220 So like, how do you understand the concept of submission when it comes to women?

02:43:28.520 I understand the concept.

02:43:29.940 Yes.

02:43:30.280 Yeah.

02:43:30.600 Okay.

02:43:30.880 And so when it comes to like, if we're talking.

02:43:32.940 Alvin Sam super chatted $99 and 99 cents.

02:43:37.060 I had enough girl in the middle, you want chivalry, but you sound extremely combative and entitled.

02:43:43.940 Are you traditional or entitled?

02:43:46.180 If you want chivalry, you better be soft spoken and gentle.

02:43:49.800 You are neither.

02:43:51.520 Right.

02:43:51.980 Can I, I want to just butt in here a little bit.

02:43:54.660 I understand what you're saying about opening the door, but my boyfriend opens my door and

02:43:58.360 I reach over and I open his, you know, I understand that like, I've never had a boy

02:44:01.800 that opens my door, but then I never opened another boy's door.

02:44:04.680 You know what I mean?

02:44:05.200 I get that it's equal.

02:44:07.200 It's hand in hand.

02:44:07.960 There's supposed to be something that comes with that.

02:44:09.420 And with the paying with the meal, if someone asks me on a date, I expect them to pay for

02:44:13.620 my meal.

02:44:14.100 Cause you asked me on the date.

02:44:15.800 Okay.

02:44:15.920 I've asked guys like, you know, I, Hey, you want to go get ice cream?

02:44:18.980 Sure. 0.97

02:44:19.200 I'll pay for the fucking ice cream, but I do believe in roles in a relationship. 0.99

02:44:22.820 And I think that that's controversial. 0.99

02:44:23.920 And I think that a woman has her place and a man has her place. 0.99

02:44:26.740 And I think they're different and they, well, man has his place too.

02:44:30.060 And they serve both very different things.

02:44:32.040 And I completely think that that's controversial and that's my hot take on it.

02:44:36.180 Um, so like, thank you, but I'm still like trying to like work with this particular example

02:44:41.500 because a lot of the times we'll, um, we'll have like Christian values or we'll say we're

02:44:45.240 traditional or we'll have Jewish values.

02:44:46.740 These are still Abrahamic. 0.69

02:44:48.160 Jew, Jewish, um, like, uh, theology still holds submission for women. 0.99

02:44:52.680 Right.

02:44:53.220 Um, do you believe that women should be unconditionally submissive?

02:44:57.100 No.

02:44:57.880 Okay.

02:44:58.200 Okay.

02:44:58.900 Well, I mean, do you mean to like to their husbands?

02:45:01.520 Yeah.

02:45:01.800 Yes.

02:45:02.160 This is a husband.

02:45:03.700 No, because people are not perfect.

02:45:05.700 And I believe like, so good.

02:45:08.520 Okay.

02:45:09.240 But follow me here.

02:45:10.440 Do you think that your man should love you unconditionally?

02:45:14.940 No.

02:45:15.940 Okay.

02:45:16.300 So then, well, then you have more like leeway with that.

02:45:18.400 Right.

02:45:18.640 So it's like, I think the question is more, more so how traditional are you?

02:45:22.980 I am not super traditional.

02:45:25.520 Okay.

02:45:26.000 I, you know, I, I believe that they're like, I'm certainly not orthodox. 0.93

02:45:29.280 Like there's a long range, but I think that in today's society, I would be considered more

02:45:34.380 traditional and conservative than most people.

02:45:36.800 So I think like the bigger question, because you have like, uh, these high standards for

02:45:41.280 your man, right?

02:45:42.280 What are you prepared to offer him?

02:45:49.060 Well, myself.

02:45:50.100 But like, well, what do you think that you, okay.

02:45:54.860 The kind of wife that you're, you would want your son to have, what would you expect her 1.00

02:45:59.120 to offer him?

02:46:00.980 Well, are we talking personality?

02:46:02.660 Like, I, I think I'm a very kind, loving, loyal, you know, supportive, supportive more

02:46:09.340 than anything.

02:46:10.580 Loyal again.

02:46:11.680 Um, you know, I, I love to take care of people.

02:46:15.440 Absolutely.

02:46:15.880 I, I find myself pretty maternal.

02:46:18.660 I want to be a mom so badly one day.

02:46:21.080 My goal in life is to be a great mom and a good, great wife.

02:46:24.980 And so that's what I have to bring to the table.

02:46:27.420 Okay.

02:46:27.720 So are you prepared to be of service to your man?

02:46:31.620 It depends on, you know, what extent are we going to that?

02:46:34.720 Well, just like he loves you, takes care of you.

02:46:36.700 That's the premise.

02:46:37.240 You're married, right?

02:46:38.200 He protects, provides.

02:46:39.420 Are you willing to be of service to him?

02:46:41.560 Yes.

02:46:42.040 Yeah.

02:46:42.520 Okay.

02:46:42.820 So then, then like your standards make sense, but it's just like, when we're like, if you're

02:46:46.540 going to, you know, like when you know, I understand, I feel like you have a lot of

02:46:49.680 blonde haired bimbos on here saying, I want this and I want that. 1.00

02:46:52.660 And they don't back it up.

02:46:53.520 I feel like there's been some assumption everywhere.

02:46:56.240 There's been some brunette bimbos too. 1.00

02:46:58.300 Oh, okay.

02:46:58.920 So you get what you get what I'm coming at.

02:47:01.160 Like, I understand that people look at me, you know, I don't dress the most conservatively.

02:47:06.340 Like, I enjoy fashion.

02:47:08.400 I like to do my thing, but I just think it was off the bat. 1.00

02:47:13.080 Like, this girl's probably a dumb ass like the rest of them. 1.00

02:47:15.380 Like, and I totally understand because unfortunately I walk into the most rooms believing most people 1.00

02:47:21.320 are that way anyways, because it's so common.

02:47:23.940 So I just think that this.

02:47:25.020 Okay.

02:47:25.040 We weren't making those assumptions about you.

02:47:26.700 At least I wasn't.

02:47:27.420 I was just like playing with mental models.

02:47:28.880 My whole thing though, is with the car door opening thing.

02:47:33.280 Okay.

02:47:34.340 You mentioned that you want the guy to pay for you on the first date.

02:47:38.560 Let me go around the table really quick on this.

02:47:40.500 Do you want a guy to pay for you on the first date? 0.94

02:47:42.320 Yeah.

02:47:43.300 Yes.

02:47:44.000 If he asked me, then yes.

02:47:45.860 If he asks me on the date.

02:47:48.240 Yeah.

02:47:49.000 And while you're married.

02:47:50.380 So I'm assuming yes.

02:47:53.540 I'm assuming for you yes.

02:47:54.660 Yeah, absolutely.

02:47:55.140 So, okay.

02:47:57.860 Why?

02:47:58.760 Why should the guy pay?

02:48:01.840 He asked me.

02:48:02.820 Hold on.

02:48:03.040 Sorry.

02:48:03.340 Let's start over here really quick. 0.99

02:48:05.020 Shut up. 0.99

02:48:12.760 Just to lay up every time. 1.00

02:48:14.860 Okay.

02:48:16.740 Okay.

02:48:17.640 You go ahead.

02:48:18.900 He asked me on the date.

02:48:20.220 If I'm asking a guy on a date, I'm probably going to pay for his meal, but I'm never asking

02:48:25.160 a guy on a date.

02:48:26.880 That's convenient.

02:48:28.260 It is.

02:48:28.620 So, okay.

02:48:29.120 Well, when second dates and third dates come along.

02:48:31.920 I'm talking about first dates.

02:48:33.160 I'm talking about first dates.

02:48:34.240 For a first date, I'm going to go ahead and make the assumption that he asked me out.

02:48:36.920 Hey, Lindsay, I'm in Dio.

02:48:38.260 Let me take you out to dinner.

02:48:39.500 Or, you know, I actually have a weird thing about eating in front of people.

02:48:42.560 I do not like to do that.

02:48:44.480 It's like my nightmare first date.

02:48:47.220 So, like, if even more than that, if a guy's like, hey, let's do something, he better have

02:48:53.500 a plan of what we're doing.

02:48:54.620 You know, if we're going and spending the day together and doing something, he better have

02:48:58.440 that planned.

02:48:58.940 It's not like, hey, Lynn, like, what do you want to do?

02:49:01.580 Okay.

02:49:01.820 So, it's even more than paying for it.

02:49:04.000 It's, there should be some more thoughts, some more effort.

02:49:06.520 The initial, you know, maybe first, second date, if you continue to ask me out.

02:49:10.380 Because as a lady, I think that I should wait to be, you know, asked.

02:49:14.180 I'm not going to say, well, when are you taking me out next?

02:49:17.900 I think that, you know, once you're in a committed relationship, I'd be happy to put down my card.

02:49:22.480 I'd be happy to leave the tip.

02:49:23.720 I'd, you know, there's, I'm not like, I need someone to pay for everything.

02:49:28.320 Okay.

02:49:28.460 Let's let some other people get an opportunity to speak.

02:49:30.560 Go ahead.

02:49:31.060 I mean, it's a date.

02:49:32.460 We're not just hanging out.

02:49:34.180 If we're friends and I'm hanging out with my guy friend, I, whatever, maybe I'll pay for his taco.

02:49:39.220 It doesn't matter.

02:49:39.620 I'm not expecting him to pay.

02:49:40.680 But this is a date.

02:49:42.080 I think if you're trying to, and I don't want to say, because I'm not a prize, but if you're trying to win me over, you know,

02:49:48.320 I think that you should be doing these things, you know.

02:49:52.180 And then your take.

02:49:53.640 I agree.

02:49:54.280 I think if you're asking me out, you're going to take time out of my schedule.

02:49:59.480 I mean, this is just first date, right?

02:50:02.700 So first date, yeah, pay for me.

02:50:04.700 But if there's follow-up dates, then take care.

02:50:07.560 Okay.

02:50:07.740 So all of you said either whoever asks or the guy should pay.

02:50:12.480 Have you ever asked out?

02:50:13.740 Now, who said whoever asks should pay?

02:50:17.060 You two.

02:50:18.100 Have you ever asked a guy out on a date?

02:50:20.540 Yes, actually.

02:50:22.480 Okay.

02:50:23.220 Of all the first dates you've ever been on?

02:50:25.700 One.

02:50:26.120 One I've asked.

02:50:26.980 How many first dates have you been on?

02:50:30.580 Five, six.

02:50:31.960 So five, they asked you, one you asked.

02:50:36.960 Yes.

02:50:37.420 And I did pay.

02:50:39.020 When you asked.

02:50:40.120 Yes.

02:50:40.520 Fair enough.

02:50:41.060 What about you?

02:50:41.900 I have never asked a man on a date.

02:50:44.320 How many first dates have you been on?

02:50:46.180 I want to say maybe like six or seven.

02:50:48.980 Six or seven.

02:50:49.700 Okay.

02:50:49.940 So you've been asked out on all those dates.

02:50:51.720 But he has not paid every single time.

02:50:54.800 Most of the time did they pay?

02:50:56.520 Every time except one.

02:50:57.820 The one that he didn't, I never talked to him again.

02:51:00.000 Oh, so okay.

02:51:00.640 When he didn't pay, you'd never.

02:51:02.020 So that's another question really quick.

02:51:04.520 If you went out on a date with a guy and he said, hey, I'd like to, you know, the check

02:51:08.060 comes or whatever.

02:51:09.200 Maybe you get food.

02:51:10.140 Maybe you get tea.

02:51:11.160 Maybe whatever.

02:51:11.860 You get coffee.

02:51:12.700 You get a drink.

02:51:14.500 And the guy says, hey, let's split the bill.

02:51:16.820 So embarrassing.

02:51:17.720 I'll just put my card down.

02:51:19.540 But you'll never see him again.

02:51:21.860 If I really like the guy, I mean, in the instance, how am I really going to like a guy

02:51:25.520 after a first date?

02:51:26.120 Let's just say it's like of average interest.

02:51:29.380 No.

02:51:29.560 Okay.

02:51:29.780 What about you?

02:51:30.620 I don't think so.

02:51:31.420 And it's like first impressions are everything.

02:51:33.600 Okay.

02:51:33.860 What about you?

02:51:35.300 Seriously depends on how the date went.

02:51:36.900 And we already said, you know, if we fall in love with a guy and he's broke, I would

02:51:40.400 be willing to work with that.

02:51:42.860 And I don't want to say financially support him.

02:51:45.460 But if we're going out and doing something together.

02:51:47.440 Okay.

02:51:47.600 He's just asking.

02:51:49.180 No, I wouldn't see him again.

02:51:50.440 I think you're going to get that answer from all of us.

02:51:52.120 We all just said no.

02:51:53.000 Okay.

02:51:53.220 Allow them to answer.

02:51:53.980 Go ahead.

02:51:55.440 You'd not see him again.

02:51:56.720 Not because of that.

02:51:58.200 But I mean, this is actually an instance.

02:51:59.580 That's what I'm asking.

02:52:00.040 This has happened to me, actually.

02:52:01.780 Okay.

02:52:02.120 Tell us quickly.

02:52:03.300 This was just a quick, this was a Tinder date. 1.00

02:52:05.140 It was stupid. 0.99

02:52:05.880 I went on a date with this guy and he had me drive him around, which is also fine. 1.00

02:52:12.040 Okay.

02:52:12.320 He asked me to drive.

02:52:13.660 We went. 0.99

02:52:14.400 We had a DUI or some shit. 0.96

02:52:16.860 He was just, his truck, something. 1.00

02:52:18.900 It was stupid. 1.00

02:52:19.940 And we're hanging out. 1.00

02:52:21.220 He's like an SDSU frat guy.

02:52:23.340 I'm not into it, whatever.

02:52:24.800 The whole vibe is off.

02:52:25.900 It's just terrible.

02:52:26.900 And then he turns to me and he tells me that he's hungry, like I'm some sort of Uber driver

02:52:31.900 or something.

02:52:32.420 And I was like, okay, let's go get food.

02:52:34.600 So we go to McDonald's and he turns to me after paying, it's at the kiosk.

02:52:40.360 He gets like a 20 piece nugget and he goes, so who's paying you or me?

02:52:44.020 But it was, it wasn't even for me.

02:52:46.060 He was asking.

02:52:46.980 And then I, it's a joke.

02:52:48.700 And I'm like, I thought, I thought he was joking.

02:52:50.500 So I was like, okay, let's rock, paper, scissors, like to see who pays.

02:52:53.440 And I lose.

02:52:54.520 And he looks at my pocket.

02:52:56.200 He's like, so you're going to pay for that? 1.00

02:52:57.360 And I pull out my card and I pay for his stupid nuggets. 1.00

02:53:00.500 You didn't get anything? 1.00

02:53:02.400 I didn't get anything. 1.00

02:53:03.520 What a fucking legend. 1.00

02:53:05.020 I was like, I'm not hungry. 1.00

02:53:05.440 W's in the chat for the fucking SDSU frat boy. 0.99

02:53:09.240 Finesse. 0.99

02:53:09.560 No, like, do you remember, do you remember at the very beginning of this where I was

02:53:12.640 like, like, this is dysfunctional.

02:53:14.420 Yeah.

02:53:14.560 It's all, I can totally see that.

02:53:16.620 No, no.

02:53:16.760 Like, that's what I'm saying.

02:53:18.120 Like, here's the thing.

02:53:19.600 Can, let's have her go. 1.00

02:53:20.880 Go ahead.

02:53:22.300 What was the question?

02:53:23.660 Are you, are you just not listening?

02:53:25.160 No, I am listening.

02:53:25.880 It was just like, it's like.

02:53:27.420 You're on the date with the guy, right?

02:53:30.040 Let's say he asked you, but he says at the end of the date, do you want to split the

02:53:33.980 bill?

02:53:36.000 The thing is with me, like, um, maybe like last year I would have been like, oh yeah,

02:53:41.840 like, like I'll see him again.

02:53:43.300 But like now people are trying to tell me to be more like, you know, like have him take

02:53:47.120 care of me more.

02:53:48.100 So I, so like, I don't know.

02:53:50.260 Like, I feel like I would make excuses and be like, yeah, I'll see you again.

02:53:56.180 Okay.

02:53:56.560 So it wouldn't bother you.

02:53:57.780 No, no, not, not really.

02:54:00.360 If the guy, okay.

02:54:00.920 Wanted to split the bill.

02:54:03.120 Yeah.

02:54:03.780 Like it, it depends though.

02:54:04.860 Okay.

02:54:05.600 It should, it should bother you like that.

02:54:07.940 That, and I realized like I'm married, but I still have like functioning ovaries and I

02:54:11.100 also study like, you know, literature and art.

02:54:13.200 Like it should bother you.

02:54:14.920 If a man likes you, if he thinks that you're valuable, he's going to pay.

02:54:19.500 Even if you invite him.

02:54:21.240 Okay.

02:54:21.540 Like if you invite him, you say like, I want to take you on a date or something like

02:54:24.540 that.

02:54:24.760 Like if he enjoys the time that he spent with you, he's going to make sure that he pays.

02:54:29.440 So like, my question is whenever one, like, why are we choosing these men that want to

02:54:34.460 split McNuggets, ma'am?

02:54:36.300 I don't know what was going through your mind, but you know, I mean, did he hit, did he hit?

02:54:40.800 No.

02:54:41.040 Stop the cow. 1.00

02:54:44.000 Come on, bruv.

02:54:45.060 Yeah. 0.99

02:54:45.620 You were like, who's this fucking Chad who just made me pay for his nugs? 0.99

02:54:50.140 Like, like, I think we have a... 0.99

02:54:51.340 What about like, maybe not hit, but did you like, you know, a little backseat?

02:54:55.740 Did he get a smooch?

02:54:56.380 Did you kiss him?

02:54:57.240 Did you kiss him?

02:54:57.880 Oh, you made out.

02:54:58.700 That's just, I mean, not just as bad.

02:55:00.740 After or before the nuggets?

02:55:02.740 After or before the nuggets?

02:55:03.660 Before, like, we kissed and then we went to McDonald's.

02:55:09.720 Was there a kiss after?

02:55:11.260 No.

02:55:11.720 Okay, whatever.

02:55:12.280 Go ahead, Allie.

02:55:13.540 The thing about it is, like, if you guys are wanting men to be masculine, like, you are

02:55:16.560 going to have to find and figure out some type of way to be feminine, okay? 1.00

02:55:19.920 And I think, like, in the West, we have, we really struggle with this concept of femininity,

02:55:24.200 and it requires that you are more demure and that you follow his lead, which means, like,

02:55:28.540 you have to allow him to leave.

02:55:29.540 So, if you start off, like, relationships with that premise, like, yeah, I'm okay with

02:55:33.700 paying.

02:55:34.180 How far is he going to, like, take that assumption, right?

02:55:36.740 Like, yeah, I'm okay with paying the rent.

02:55:38.900 Like, it happens to women, but, like, we do have to look at ourselves. 0.88

02:55:43.300 We're asking for these men.

02:55:44.760 Are we worth these men?

02:55:46.140 Most women, you guys could be, like, very different, because obviously, like, nobody's 0.84

02:55:49.860 overweight or obese here tonight.

02:55:51.020 Shout out to y'all.

02:55:51.920 But, like, a lot of women have that expectation of men, and they are not willing to fem up, and 0.63

02:55:56.180 they should, because we constantly tell men to man up, but we never tell women to fem up. 0.77

02:55:59.860 Because I think, like, that's, like, a complete, you know, just, like, complete taking advantage,

02:56:04.640 right?

02:56:05.840 Like, I think that men, if they have a bad time with a woman, I think it's completely

02:56:11.180 acceptable that he just throws cash on the table and walks out.

02:56:14.600 Like, pays for his half of the meal and doesn't pay for the whole thing.

02:56:16.840 But men don't pay for a bad time with a woman either. 0.97

02:56:19.480 So, just be pleasant and be worthwhile.

02:56:21.980 You know what I mean?

02:56:22.540 Like, respect that a man is spending his resources for you on the date.

02:56:25.720 But, yeah, like, this is what I meant at the beginning when I was like, I worry about

02:56:28.680 these things.

02:56:29.260 This sounds dysfunctional.

02:56:30.080 Like, that's dysfunctional as hell.

02:56:31.560 McNuggets?

02:56:31.900 Totally.

02:56:32.500 McNuggets.

02:56:33.020 I completely agree.

02:56:34.020 Girl, you were here.

02:56:34.400 I never want to go on a date like that again.

02:56:36.000 That was all.

02:56:36.340 Yeah.

02:56:37.240 Yeah.

02:56:37.560 So, as far as the whole, like, who asks thing, for those of you who said, well, whoever

02:56:45.680 asks should pay, from what you answered, you said, well, maybe one of you asked one time.

02:56:53.480 The whole whoever asks things, the whole whoever asks thing, your answer may as well be men should 1.00

02:56:59.780 pay.

02:57:00.420 If it's whoever asks, if you never ask men.

02:57:04.020 Well, not never.

02:57:05.120 Not never.

02:57:05.780 Okay.

02:57:06.060 But men overwhelmingly are the ones that initiate.

02:57:08.860 Yes.

02:57:09.240 And she just completely answered that question.

02:57:11.500 It's an ish test.

02:57:12.380 It's a, so, well, I can, okay, I'll curse here for the sake of it. 1.00

02:57:14.660 It's a shit test. 0.99

02:57:15.700 That's what we're doing. 1.00

02:57:16.280 Like, we're shit testing these men, right? 0.98

02:57:17.880 Because it's like, as a woman, if you invite a man out, you should be just ethically prepared 0.99

02:57:22.980 to pay for that date if you ask him out, right?

02:57:25.520 Do we actually want for the man to let us pay?

02:57:30.400 No.

02:57:30.920 Typically, no.

02:57:31.460 No.

02:57:31.880 Right?

02:57:31.900 So, like, we're testing them.

02:57:33.300 No.

02:57:33.420 So, this is like, if you fail this test, like, then we don't want to continue seeing you

02:57:36.820 kind of thing.

02:57:37.440 Isn't that crazy that we play these mind games?

02:57:39.020 Well, I think that we're being, I don't even want to say smart right here, but, like, the

02:57:43.200 instance that, you know, I suggested my friend, like, hey, let's go see this movie, and

02:57:47.180 he was like, okay, before we even got to the movie theater, I had bought the tickets

02:57:50.840 online.

02:57:51.340 Like, I wanted to do that for whatever reason.

02:57:55.240 I, you know, I wish I could share that now.

02:57:58.140 I don't know why, because I know if we got to the movie, he would have paid.

02:58:01.720 But, possibly because we were friends before, and, you know, it was kind of first.

02:58:06.440 I think, like, what they're just trying, because it's a male viewership, I think what we're

02:58:09.180 trying to say is, like, pay for the date, even if we say that we're going to pay for it

02:58:13.880 because it's a test, at the same time, though, like, there are some issues when it comes to

02:58:18.620 we want equality with men, but then we're like, mm, except for these things, except for

02:58:24.020 these double standards that happen to benefit us, and then we don't want equality with men. 0.79

02:58:28.740 So, I think we just need to fess up to that, and if we have, like, internalized feminism, 1.00

02:58:32.260 because we talk about internalized misogyny all the time, I think, like, if we have internalized

02:58:35.380 feminism, we also need to, like, kind of check that. 1.00

02:58:37.880 Do you consider yourself a feminist? 1.00

02:58:39.900 No, definitely not.

02:58:40.860 Like, not in any way, shape, or form.

02:58:42.140 Do you think that men and women are equal? 0.99

02:58:45.300 No, we're different.

02:58:46.660 Like, we're equal in importance for the human race, but we're not equal by design, and that's

02:58:50.140 okay.

02:58:50.400 We're apples and oranges.

02:58:51.580 I don't want to compete with a man.

02:58:51.940 I totally agree.

02:58:53.120 I totally agree. 0.95

02:58:55.420 Chivalry is dead, and women killed it. 1.00

02:58:58.200 Yes.

02:58:59.440 I don't think, men, you need to protect yourselves, because men, the big thing we don't want, 0.88

02:59:04.960 men care about respect, and men don't want to be made out to be suckers, and the fact of

02:59:09.760 the matter is, when you're back 20, well, it's gotten worse than social media and dating

02:59:15.480 apps, back 20, 30, 40, 50, 60 years ago, if you went on a first date with a girl, the

02:59:21.520 likelihood that she had a genuine interest in you, and wasn't just using you because she

02:59:26.800 was bored, or she wants a free meal, or just the fact that we have so many options today,

02:59:33.260 that the likelihood that any one given first date even ends up becoming a second date is

02:59:39.440 very small.

02:59:40.760 Most first dates don't lead anywhere.

02:59:43.340 I'm sorry, is that nowadays you're saying?

02:59:44.880 Nowadays.

02:59:45.380 Okay.

02:59:45.580 In the past, in the past, you'd maybe go on like three first dates, and then you're married. 1.00

02:59:52.060 Now motherfuckers be going on three dates a week. 1.00

02:59:54.600 Yeah. 1.00

02:59:55.140 And men, you need to protect your, like, I know, look, is it, here's my thing, are you

03:00:00.300 probably going to lose girls if you don't pay for the date? 0.91

03:00:03.360 Yes.

03:00:04.660 However, it's a matter of principle. 0.99

03:00:07.400 I'm not going to be paying for a girl on a date that's fucking another dude, and most 1.00

03:00:11.880 of these chicks are fucking other dudes. 1.00

03:00:13.660 Like, I'm not going to do it. 1.00

03:00:15.660 Yeah.

03:00:16.060 A lot of girls, most girls, have some dude that they're sleeping with, or they're dating 1.00

03:00:21.880 other guys.

03:00:22.980 I'm not going to adhere to my traditional gender roles with a woman that's not adhering 1.00

03:00:27.260 to hers.

03:00:28.640 In other words, basically not being promiscuous. 0.75

03:00:31.740 Most women are promiscuous. 1.00

03:00:33.040 So this is... 0.99

03:00:33.740 And so are guys.

03:00:34.900 I'm dating a guy who's probably dating a couple of...

03:00:36.700 No, that's not true.

03:00:37.840 That's actually not true.

03:00:38.680 That is true.

03:00:39.300 There are more women who are promiscuous than there are men. 1.00

03:00:42.160 Most men have no options, whereas take an average woman. 1.00

03:00:46.600 If you take an average woman, she has the equivalent sexual pull of a male celebrity. 1.00

03:00:52.300 I see your point here, but I'm going on a date with a guy, and he goes out the next

03:00:57.060 night, and we're not exclusive or anything, and some eight throws herself at him. 0.58

03:01:01.960 He's going to take it.

03:01:02.860 Because like you said, men are easier than women are. 1.00

03:01:05.420 Right, but there's the value exchange on the first date.

03:01:08.960 Y'all just said you want men to pay for the first date. 1.00

03:01:11.140 Like, why should the guy...

03:01:14.300 It's a...

03:01:15.460 You're adhering to your traditional gender roles. 0.99

03:01:19.680 You are giving value by paying for the date.

03:01:22.760 So as a woman, like if the other... 0.99

03:01:25.380 If the guy, he's fucking other chicks, but he still pays for the date, like you're not 0.98

03:01:29.780 made out to necessarily be a sucker in that situation, whereas men are going on 50, 100, 1.00

03:01:34.800 $150 sushi dates and shit. 0.98

03:01:36.900 I don't think you should be going on dinner dates, but a lot of guys are going to do that, 0.99

03:01:40.500 and a lot of women can command men that will do that. 1.00

03:01:44.800 So like I said...

03:01:45.440 I think the better question is like, why do you deserve, as the company, the guest, why

03:01:52.680 do you deserve that man to pay for that first date? 1.00

03:01:55.840 Like I said, it was controversial.

03:01:57.660 You asked what my most controversial thing was.

03:02:00.060 No, no.

03:02:00.660 We're like way past what you brought up.

03:02:01.300 Well, that's for the man to decide.

03:02:02.460 No, no, no.

03:02:02.760 Hold on, hold on.

03:02:03.400 Hold on.

03:02:03.720 Like we're way past the point that you brought up, right?

03:02:06.300 This is a genuine question, and we should be able to answer this, like as people that

03:02:10.960 are dating, right?

03:02:12.320 Why do we deserve for that man to pay for that first date? 1.00

03:02:17.660 I bring a lot to the table.

03:02:18.960 I think that that's just, like I said, I'm more of a traditional woman, and I think that

03:02:23.480 that is what I expect.

03:02:25.100 It's just what I expect.

03:02:26.260 So like, I live in the Midwest.

03:02:28.360 I talk to trad cons.

03:02:29.560 Traditional women, typically like that actual standard, the benchmark is if she saved herself 1.00

03:02:33.760 for marriage, point blank, period, the end, right?

03:02:35.540 Well, of course.

03:02:36.000 That's why I said more traditional.

03:02:37.360 Yeah.

03:02:37.800 Okay.

03:02:38.280 More on that.

03:02:38.920 It's a spectrum now.

03:02:40.080 Yeah.

03:02:40.260 Yeah.

03:02:40.580 So it's been a little...

03:02:41.580 I like, why can't we answer the simple question?

03:02:43.880 Like, it's a very simple question.

03:02:45.860 Why do we deserve for that man to pay for that first date? 1.00

03:02:48.500 Like, think about...

03:02:49.240 They don't.

03:02:49.840 I brought...

03:02:50.460 The second he asked me on a date, that's when I...

03:02:53.340 That's, you know, I earned it.

03:02:55.140 I don't think that's enough.

03:02:55.820 That doesn't make any sense.

03:02:56.940 Like, think about this.

03:02:58.000 Like, you're spending time.

03:02:58.920 Time is a finite resource.

03:03:00.720 You don't get it back.

03:03:01.660 We're all going to die one day.

03:03:02.740 Each second is valuable.

03:03:03.920 For sure.

03:03:04.320 But women also spend time and money on their appearance and looks. 1.00

03:03:07.880 And sure, men do too.

03:03:09.120 But think about the money that goes into, you know, the vanity that we all have to deal

03:03:14.220 with every day.

03:03:14.720 Okay.

03:03:15.100 That's just a bad explanation. 0.91

03:03:16.440 But I think it's such a silly question.

03:03:18.260 No, no, it's not... 0.95

03:03:18.880 Why is that a silly question?

03:03:20.000 Because it's like, we would tell them the same thing.

03:03:22.440 Like, we would quickly tell a man, I deserve for you to pay the first date. 0.81

03:03:26.640 And we can't even say why.

03:03:28.120 Right?

03:03:28.380 Like, what are you bringing to the...

03:03:30.680 Okay.

03:03:31.400 But this is a simple question.

03:03:33.340 You say, like, I bring a pleasant time.

03:03:35.960 I bring a good time.

03:03:37.020 I bring good banter.

03:03:38.380 I'm easy on the eyes.

03:03:39.740 Why can't we articulate these things?

03:03:41.900 Are we not bringing anything?

03:03:42.080 What's the answer you're looking for?

03:03:43.260 That I'm a virgin?

03:03:44.320 No.

03:03:44.580 I'm confused because you agree with us.

03:03:46.440 A man should pay on the first date. 1.00

03:03:47.640 Yes.

03:03:47.920 I'm so confused.

03:03:48.560 What is the answer you'd like to hear right now?

03:03:49.900 Because it's crazy that we cannot articulate as women who are dating why we deserve for 0.95

03:03:55.340 that man to pay for that first date.

03:03:56.880 I just gave you guys, like, a pretty substantive, substantial, or substantial?

03:04:01.900 Substantial.

03:04:02.580 Substantial.

03:04:03.040 I gave us, like, a pretty substantial answer.

03:04:05.320 You bring a good time, a pleasant demeanor, good banter, genuine desire, you think he's

03:04:10.300 attractive.

03:04:11.080 Why can't we say that?

03:04:12.740 But men automatically know they have to pay for a date. 1.00

03:04:15.460 We should know why we deserve that time paid for.

03:04:18.080 That was my first answer.

03:04:19.940 Was I bring a lot to the table.

03:04:21.460 But then we...

03:04:22.480 That was also my...

03:04:23.560 That was the first thing that I said.

03:04:24.440 Okay, you said that one of the reasons that it should be more important, or not more important,

03:04:31.180 that men should pay for the first date is because women have a higher financial burden 1.00

03:04:35.080 of getting ready for the first date by putting on makeup.

03:04:37.680 Let me ask you a question.

03:04:39.080 Do women wear makeup for men or for themselves? 1.00

03:04:44.560 Both.

03:04:45.460 Men.

03:04:46.780 Oh, well, that's...

03:04:48.440 Most women don't admit to that. 1.00

03:04:50.040 I'm so sorry.

03:04:51.340 I wear mascara to look hotter because I want a boyfriend.

03:04:54.220 That's what I do.

03:04:55.020 And now that I have a boyfriend, I don't wear mascara on my boyfriend all the time.

03:04:58.140 I feel like I got to start over here.

03:04:59.840 Okay.

03:05:00.180 Sorry.

03:05:00.740 That was really controversial.

03:05:01.640 Do you wear makeup for yourself or for men?

03:05:05.920 Both.

03:05:07.040 Both.

03:05:09.500 Myself.

03:05:10.120 You wear it for yourself?

03:05:11.020 Yeah.

03:05:11.360 Okay.

03:05:11.940 So do you think one of the reasons a man should pay for a first date is because you spend more

03:05:17.720 You have to wear makeup?

03:05:18.700 That costs something?

03:05:20.480 I mean, it does cost something, but it shouldn't be everything.

03:05:22.440 I think if the connection is good, then that should kind of...

03:05:25.440 Well, it's so interesting because on one hand, a lot of women will say, well, I don't wear

03:05:29.540 makeup for men.

03:05:30.400 I do it for myself.

03:05:31.400 But then they'll say that the guy should pay for the date because I have to get ready.

03:05:40.860 I have to do all this.

03:05:42.200 Oh, okay.

03:05:42.720 I understand.

03:05:43.520 I'd like to address that.

03:05:44.380 But that was not truthfully my answer to your question.

03:05:46.960 I was confused on the answer you were looking for because I believe I stated it before when

03:05:50.540 I told you I'm loyal, I'm compassionate, I'm loving.

03:05:53.540 I, as well, bring a lot to the table.

03:05:55.040 So I was confused on the answer you were looking for.

03:05:58.600 Right, right.

03:05:59.260 So it's like, these are all...

03:06:01.320 Women have a really hard time articulating what they bring to the table. 1.00

03:06:03.840 And I think sometimes it calls into question, like, are we actually bringing something

03:06:07.820 to the table?

03:06:08.820 Right?

03:06:09.140 Because we think, like, well, my company's enough.

03:06:11.880 It's like, a lot of women can offer their company, what makes you special? 1.00

03:06:15.640 What makes you different?

03:06:16.600 What makes you worth?

03:06:17.300 Because when we think about this money that men have, we take it for granted, right? 0.69

03:06:21.000 This is time that that man spends out of his life to earn those resources to share it

03:06:24.540 with you.

03:06:25.220 Why are we deserving?

03:06:26.180 And why can't we articulate that?

03:06:27.880 If we're going to be dating, and you said you're looking for marriage and hopefully children,

03:06:30.880 I think, like, did you say that earlier?

03:06:32.260 I said that, yes.

03:06:33.060 Yeah.

03:06:33.760 Like, that's my question.

03:06:35.340 Because men know automatically off-rits why they have to pay. 0.88

03:06:38.060 I cannot speak on behalf of all women. 1.00

03:06:39.880 That's why if I were a man, I wouldn't be dating all women. 1.00

03:06:42.400 I think I'm engaging.

03:06:43.720 I'm funny.

03:06:44.100 I'm thought-provoking.

03:06:44.940 I think I'm pretty cool.

03:06:46.060 Men don't care about if you're funny. 0.88

03:06:47.880 I understand that, but I crack myself up.

03:06:50.180 So I'm going to count that as a pro.

03:06:51.520 No, keep going.

03:06:52.240 Like, you're doing well.

03:06:53.400 You're doing well.

03:06:54.320 Like, you're answering very, like, this is, that's what I'm thinking.

03:06:56.100 I think that I'm pretty thoughtful.

03:06:58.460 I'm sorry.

03:06:58.800 I just didn't know you wanted a list of why I think I'm so great.

03:07:01.400 Because I've been seeing myself called egotistical and a narcissist, like, 97 times, which

03:07:06.860 is totally fine.

03:07:07.600 Don't worry about that.

03:07:08.580 It's totally fine.

03:07:09.640 I just, you know, that was, I didn't realize you were missing.

03:07:12.540 Okay, you said funny.

03:07:14.460 Where on the totem pole of what men care about in a woman is funny? 1.00

03:07:18.500 You know, I found, I heard something the other day that was, like, when they asked a bunch

03:07:24.120 of men and women, like, what's important to you when dating?

03:07:26.540 And they both said sense of humor.

03:07:29.000 Men define a sense of humor.

03:07:30.840 Stop the cow. 1.00

03:07:31.600 No, no, no.

03:07:32.220 This is true.

03:07:33.080 Women define a sense of humor as a guy that makes, a guy that makes them laugh. 1.00

03:07:38.740 And then men define a sense of humor as a guy who thinks, uh, that can, that the woman

03:07:44.560 is, thinks that he's funny.

03:07:45.920 Okay.

03:07:46.260 Yes.

03:07:46.500 I see what you're saying.

03:07:47.080 So I think we all can agree, like, men are kind of the comedians, but I'd like to say

03:07:52.360 I have my silly moments.

03:07:53.420 Like, I like to think of myself as, like, a good time and funny.

03:07:56.160 She's funny.

03:07:56.980 She's funny.

03:07:57.260 Yeah.

03:07:57.540 Like, I mean, you're like, I would say, like, I would say, like, okay, majority of women 1.00

03:08:01.200 are just, like, not funny to men just because they have a different sense of humor.

03:08:03.880 Totally.

03:08:04.440 Totally.

03:08:05.080 But, like, you bring the silliness, the playfulness, right?

03:08:07.380 Yeah.

03:08:07.740 So it's just, like, we just have to be prepared to ask these questions because we're constantly

03:08:10.180 being, like, this is what I deserve from men.

03:08:12.380 Mm-hmm.

03:08:12.760 And we're not willing to say, like, well, gee, like, did I, did I earn that?

03:08:16.500 You know?

03:08:17.100 It's just a good question to ask.

03:08:18.520 That's all that it is.

03:08:19.420 Yeah.

03:08:19.640 Because I know we're in that.

03:08:20.900 Like, did you see what happened?

03:08:22.460 Like, you said that I, for some reason, thought that you needed to be a virgin to have that

03:08:26.520 first date paid for.

03:08:27.380 I was truthfully trying to understand the answer you were looking for, and your answer was a

03:08:32.140 list of qualities that I, myself, possess.

03:08:34.120 Yeah.

03:08:34.280 I thought you were asking a broad question.

03:08:36.140 As women, why do we deserve to have the first date paid for it? 1.00

03:08:38.940 We don't.

03:08:39.800 Like, you know, every single woman. 0.98

03:08:41.880 No, I don't think every single woman is great. 1.00

03:08:43.640 I don't think every woman is marriage worthy. 1.00

03:08:45.840 Like, that's the whole point of dating.

03:08:48.140 That's why you have to feel them out.

03:08:49.420 See who is your vibe.

03:08:50.920 But...

03:08:51.200 You know what?

03:08:51.500 What's, like, a good answer that you could say, too, that for some reason, like, people

03:08:54.320 don't want to say it is, like, you're hot.

03:08:56.280 Right?

03:08:56.500 Like, I mean, you guys can't tell, because y'all can only see her from the waist up.

03:08:59.620 Right?

03:08:59.820 But you work very hard on your body.

03:09:01.380 Like, that's...

03:09:02.060 You can actually leverage that.

03:09:03.340 Like, you can say, like, well, you know, I'm actually beautiful, and I put a lot into

03:09:06.840 my fitness, and I put a lot into my nutrition.

03:09:08.820 Like, that...

03:09:09.260 You don't have to shy away from that being a quality, too.

03:09:11.280 But just so y'all know, like, looks get you in the door.

03:09:14.140 A personality is what keeps, don't get me wrong, but looks get you in the door.

03:09:17.720 So, like, we have women out here looking like a whole, like, adjustable four, okay? 1.00

03:09:22.680 Trying to be like, I deserve to be paid on a first date.

03:09:24.840 It's like, boo, you know?

03:09:26.140 Yeah, why?

03:09:26.700 The kind of men that want you, like, you're not going to be happy with them.

03:09:28.940 Okay, so...

03:09:29.720 Yeah.

03:09:29.740 Is what I'm hearing, the answer you wanted from me was because...

03:09:33.780 About you.

03:09:34.580 You, the person.

03:09:35.960 Yeah.

03:09:36.320 Yes.

03:09:36.640 That's what I was looking for.

03:09:37.560 Okay.

03:09:38.020 Yeah. 0.99

03:09:39.640 Men don't give a fuck about if a woman is funny. 0.99

03:09:42.940 Like, that's just so low on the totem pole of what we care about. 1.00

03:09:48.200 Give me a boring chick. 1.00

03:09:50.200 I love boring chicks. 1.00

03:09:52.320 Really?

03:09:53.360 Like, truthfully?

03:09:54.040 I shouldn't say, like, boring, but, like...

03:09:55.680 Don't say that.

03:09:56.320 I don't need...

03:09:57.960 See, a lot of women look to men to be their dancing monkeys and their entertainment. 1.00

03:10:02.940 Women are looking for the vibe, the chemistry, the click. 1.00

03:10:06.220 We don't care about that.

03:10:08.160 We want a girl who's mellow, who's calm, who's submissive, who's demure. 0.97

03:10:12.560 Yeah.

03:10:13.720 We don't...

03:10:14.600 I don't need a girl to be my entertainment. 1.00

03:10:17.040 However, a lot of y'all, if a guy's boring...

03:10:19.560 Actually, we have a video on this.

03:10:21.480 There's... 0.99

03:10:21.760 You don't like a silly girl? 1.00

03:10:23.240 Like, if she's silly, you're not going to be like, oh, she's cute. 0.99

03:10:24.620 Playful's okay. 0.96

03:10:26.040 Yeah.

03:10:27.440 Playful versus petulant.

03:10:28.880 You know, there's a difference.

03:10:29.580 Do you...

03:10:30.480 Here's a question.

03:10:31.680 But I don't need a girl to be witty and, like, have these amazing stories. 1.00

03:10:35.720 But you don't think it's, like, hot if she's smart or something like that? 0.99

03:10:38.140 Or hot if she's, like, can, like... 1.00

03:10:39.300 You can be smart.

03:10:40.320 You can be smart and also calm and mellow and...

03:10:44.620 Yeah, of course.

03:10:45.420 But I'm saying, do you think it makes a girl more attractive if she's smart? 0.92

03:10:49.480 If she... 0.95

03:10:50.200 A lot of looks.

03:10:50.780 To some degree.

03:10:51.640 To some degree, I would say so.

03:10:53.440 Yeah, I think...

03:10:54.200 She's, like, a STEM major.

03:10:56.240 I...

03:10:56.440 Most...

03:10:56.800 Actually, most of the women I date are STEM majors. 0.98

03:10:59.040 I heard that STEM majors are, like, freaks.

03:11:01.140 Well, here's the thing.

03:11:02.560 Here's the thing.

03:11:03.240 Like, these...

03:11:04.080 I would say, also, I like...

03:11:05.460 So, I like...

03:11:06.780 I like introverted women. 1.00

03:11:08.960 I like more calm, mellow, almost shy girls.

03:11:11.600 Mm-hmm.

03:11:12.140 I prefer shy girl over, like, the outgoing, extroverted chick. 0.95

03:11:16.260 Mm-hmm.

03:11:16.880 First off, well, and you mentioned, like, freaks, right? 0.96

03:11:21.340 Extroverted, like, basic chicks, kind of boring in bed. 1.00

03:11:26.640 Yo, the shy... 0.96

03:11:27.420 You just said that you like boring, though.

03:11:29.720 No, no, no.

03:11:30.340 Boring, like, they're not...

03:11:31.800 Ah.

03:11:32.420 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

03:11:33.240 But, like, shy, introverted chicks... 1.00

03:11:37.060 They're freaks, and they're STEM majors as well, is what I'm getting at.

03:11:40.460 Yeah, most of the women I date are STEM majors. 1.00

03:11:42.080 And they're freaks.

03:11:42.900 Yeah, but shy...

03:11:43.960 You're 33, though.

03:11:44.980 Why are you dating girls that are still in college?

03:11:46.740 Well, hold on.

03:11:47.560 Let me address...

03:11:47.940 I'm just kidding.

03:11:48.220 I'm just kidding.

03:11:48.780 I'm just kidding.

03:11:49.460 We talked about that, and I was on the other side.

03:11:51.460 Oh.

03:11:51.580 I'm just kidding.

03:11:52.180 I'm just kidding.

03:11:52.800 Well, yeah, I mean, I would...

03:11:54.520 Most of the women I date are... 1.00

03:11:56.000 Well, I mean, there's...

03:11:56.780 I dated a grad student recently.

03:11:58.280 He was, like, a...

03:11:59.580 I don't know, mid to late 20s, and she was getting her PhD in...

03:12:04.520 That's awesome.

03:12:05.180 ...in the STEM field.

03:12:05.900 I forgot precisely what, but...

03:12:07.860 STEM girls.

03:12:09.580 Okay.

03:12:11.860 Where were we?

03:12:12.860 So, like, here's the thing, right?

03:12:15.000 Like, for some reason, we seem to think that men value smart women.

03:12:18.500 A minority of men do.

03:12:20.520 Like, my husband is very...

03:12:21.320 Who said that?

03:12:22.620 You, like, are making this argument about, like, intelligence women.

03:12:25.780 I just asked.

03:12:26.120 If he...

03:12:26.620 I just asked his personal opinion.

03:12:27.660 Well, I mean, okay.

03:12:28.480 Like, just let me make a point.

03:12:30.060 Like, I'm not using you as an example.

03:12:31.220 Like, depersonalize it.

03:12:32.120 It's not about you, right?

03:12:33.040 I'm just saying, like, this is a conception that women often have. 0.99

03:12:35.420 It might not be you.

03:12:36.080 That's amazing.

03:12:36.640 Wonderful.

03:12:37.380 So, like, for some reason, we seem to think that men value smart women.

03:12:41.340 Like, what...

03:12:42.640 Do you want to be with a man that you're smarter than?

03:12:46.980 Wait, wait.

03:12:47.880 Yeah.

03:12:48.340 Yeah.

03:12:48.560 Do you want to be with a man that you're smarter than?

03:12:51.220 I was.

03:12:52.240 And it was horrible.

03:12:53.960 Yeah.

03:12:54.260 Do you see the problem with that?

03:12:55.440 I absolutely do.

03:12:56.700 We're not on the same intellectual level and it sucks because you want to have, like,

03:13:01.720 a good, strong conversation and it's just not there.

03:13:05.160 It's like the lights are on, but nobody's home.

03:13:06.820 Absolutely.

03:13:07.540 I think it's super important to be with someone that inspires me and that includes it in,

03:13:13.060 you know, makes me want to be smarter.

03:13:14.480 And, you know, we were talking about upbringings and, well, why do you think that?

03:13:18.020 What did your mom teach you about dating? 0.99

03:13:19.600 I mean, growing up, if I was, like, sitting on my phone, my dad's like, put that shit down 0.99

03:13:23.400 and go read a book. 0.99

03:13:24.540 Like, I love my dad.

03:13:25.980 I respect my dad.

03:13:26.980 He is an incredible dad.

03:13:29.880 And he always taught me, like, go read a book.

03:13:32.280 We talk every day about, you know, worldly things.

03:13:36.160 And in my family, it's important to be smart.

03:13:38.440 It's important to add to the conversation.

03:13:40.140 So I do think, you know, I would like to believe that men want to smart women.

03:13:44.320 And I did not have some crazy GPA.

03:13:46.080 I go to a community college.

03:13:47.520 Like, sure, not on paper am I a genius.

03:13:50.300 My IQ is maybe not that high.

03:13:52.100 But I would consider myself a smart individual.

03:13:55.040 Yeah.

03:13:55.340 Okay.

03:13:55.700 So, like, I would say the statistics and the data, which I can show you guys sometime after

03:14:01.340 the show.

03:14:01.720 I want to see this one.

03:14:02.660 Yeah.

03:14:02.720 Yeah.

03:14:03.200 Or I can show you, like, probably, like, on my YouTube channel, I can do it.

03:14:06.740 But women usually don't want to be with men who have lower IQs than them in general. 0.52

03:14:13.300 Yeah.

03:14:13.680 Women need to be mentally stimulated, I think. 1.00

03:14:15.900 I don't even think it's about, like, mental stimulation.

03:14:17.820 Like, we don't even have that, like, with men, we don't even have that much in common.

03:14:20.220 Like, I can play around with politics with my husband.

03:14:22.000 That's, like, but I'm the exception to the rule.

03:14:23.920 Like, you know, I don't want to get pedicures, like, with my man.

03:14:27.100 He doesn't want to play spades with me.

03:14:28.340 Like, there's, we have different interests, right?

03:14:30.740 So it's, like, in order for a man to lead you, we probably want a man that's more intelligent

03:14:35.260 than us.

03:14:36.000 But how are we going to find a man that's more intelligent than us who can, like, you know, forward

03:14:40.760 project and protect us if we're out here thinking that, like, well, men really like smart

03:14:45.020 women. 0.81

03:14:45.740 Like, a lot of the times they probably don't.

03:14:47.680 They don't want to be outshined either.

03:14:49.060 You know what I mean?

03:14:49.580 Like, that's just, it's a power dynamic.

03:14:51.040 It's a romance thing.

03:14:51.900 It's polarity. 1.00

03:14:52.800 Are you encouraging us to be dumber? 0.99

03:14:55.200 No. 0.99

03:14:55.680 I feel like you're taking way too far.

03:14:57.360 I love being, like, I love, there's nothing I love more than not using my brain.

03:15:01.860 Do you, like, do you understand, like, the plight of women who have high IQs to where 0.51

03:15:06.060 majority of the dating pool of men?

03:15:07.780 We're talking about IQs, though.

03:15:09.200 But can we agree there's, you know, there's book smart, on paper smart, and there's other

03:15:13.140 kinds of smarts?

03:15:14.080 I don't even want to say street smart.

03:15:16.120 Like, I've never been in a fight, but I, you know.

03:15:18.480 IQ is objective.

03:15:19.480 IQ is cognitive ability and power.

03:15:21.780 It's the ability to think.

03:15:22.720 That's objective.

03:15:24.180 You're either born with it or you're not.

03:15:25.820 That's the other thing about it, too.

03:15:27.040 Like, I'm not talking, because a man can be a high IQ, never gets a PhD, just happens

03:15:31.060 to be a really strategic fisherman.

03:15:32.360 We still want men that are smarter than us in the long run, because it's, like, it creates 0.93

03:15:37.820 a problem, right?

03:15:38.980 Well, if I'm smarter than you as the woman, then I can out-earn you. 1.00

03:15:41.420 Then what good are you to me in 2023 when I can bring home the bacon?

03:15:44.480 It's $3 a pound.

03:15:45.520 Okay, what's throwing me off here, and I feel like you also kind of were talking about this.

03:15:54.000 It seems like we all agree, like, the majority of people are not up to the expectation.

03:15:59.700 And it seems like you both have kind of insinuated, like, well, that's right.

03:16:04.440 We should stoop down to that level, not date up to where, you know.

03:16:08.820 I never said that.

03:16:09.980 Like, you're making, like, an implication.

03:16:12.220 Do you understand?

03:16:12.820 Like, I never said dumb yourselves down, but that's when I say what I said, which is objective,

03:16:17.800 there's data that shows the higher an IQ a woman is, the harder she has a time with 1.00

03:16:22.360 mate selection, right? 0.60

03:16:23.300 So I never said dumb yourself down.

03:16:25.400 All I said was is that we tend to choose, if we can choose, men that are more intelligent

03:16:30.500 than us.

03:16:31.140 Why is that the automatic association and response that I said to dumb yourself down?

03:16:34.140 I would never ask my daughter to dumb herself down.

03:16:35.820 I have not dumbed myself down.

03:16:37.180 I competed for a man that was smarter than me.

03:16:39.720 Can I just say, I asked Brian a simple question about some girls being freaks or something,

03:16:45.660 if you like smart girls, and I feel like this is way too deep.

03:16:48.080 Like, you're making this a much bigger point.

03:16:50.460 Well, okay, so we're talking about smart girls. 0.94

03:16:52.280 I brought up an IQ and really interesting mental models, and then, like, now I'm doing

03:16:56.380 too much.

03:16:56.940 Let me do some super chats.

03:16:57.820 I think that's a really good idea.

03:16:59.960 Let's move it along.

03:17:02.940 On that note, I would say introverted shy chicks. 1.00

03:17:07.300 For the win.

03:17:08.160 They're better in bed.

03:17:09.360 Anyways.

03:17:10.440 Okay, we have, let's see, we have, did we do this one?

03:17:14.300 One of you read this maybe, right?

03:17:16.440 Yeah, we did.

03:17:16.920 We did.

03:17:18.360 Did we do this one, Stephen Wagner?

03:17:20.000 Yes.

03:17:21.760 This, did, yep, that would be true.

03:17:25.680 All right.

03:17:26.500 I don't, Julie's Auto Garage, thank you for the 50.

03:17:29.760 Wren, all yours.

03:17:31.580 Seems like there is a lot of high expectations for men, but low responsibility for these gals. 1.00

03:17:35.400 I feel like there's a lot of cap going on here from everyone.

03:17:37.740 Separately, Brian, no car door policy?

03:17:39.640 You're wrong there, bro.

03:17:41.140 I, yes.

03:17:42.260 I agree.

03:17:42.500 So, I mean, my response to you, Julie's Auto Garage, by the way, thank you for the, your patronage.

03:17:48.340 Much appreciated.

03:17:50.080 Look, they can put the toilet seat down. 0.96

03:17:53.180 They can open the car door for themselves.

03:17:57.360 The toilet seat? 1.00

03:17:58.800 You don't have to put the fucking toilet seat? 1.00

03:18:00.100 No. 0.99

03:18:00.760 The toilet seat thing, whoever, look, whoever uses it, they, they can.

03:18:04.440 No, that's such a big argument with me and my boyfriend. 0.99

03:18:07.060 He's so, he's lazy with that, and that pisses me the fuck off. 1.00

03:18:09.900 Your boyfriend's a fucking legend. 1.00

03:18:10.880 He's a fucking lazy piece of shit when he doesn't put the fucking. 1.00

03:18:13.580 No, no, no, no, no. 1.00

03:18:13.620 Your boyfriend is a legend.

03:18:15.640 Look, everyone's going to be like.

03:18:16.640 Sir, what's his name, Chad?

03:18:18.560 Dylan.

03:18:18.800 His name's Dylan.

03:18:20.000 Yo, Dylan, keep leaving that toilet seat up, and actually, while you're at it, leave the seat down and pee a little bit on it.

03:18:25.640 Just to, just for spite.

03:18:26.940 I think that's so annoying.

03:18:27.920 Just out of spite.

03:18:28.680 And you know what, too?

03:18:29.640 We'll go home for Christmas, and he'll do that, and his dad will notice.

03:18:32.980 Is he watching, by the way?

03:18:33.920 His dad will chew him.

03:18:34.820 No, he doesn't know I'm on here, because I called him to tell, it was a last minute thing.

03:18:38.360 Oh, right, yeah, yeah. 0.99

03:18:39.100 He's probably going to watch this and be like, so, what the fuck are you doing? 1.00

03:18:42.140 Got it. 0.99

03:18:44.060 Yeah, it's a big argument.

03:18:45.380 It's a big argument.

03:18:45.880 All right, Marden, 50.

03:18:47.420 They bring a lot to the table, always down on all fours, sitting around the house all day long, doing nothing.

03:18:52.520 Doing nothing?

03:18:53.100 I have a job.

03:18:54.400 All right, Marden.

03:18:55.680 Yeah.

03:18:56.140 I work two jobs.

03:18:57.360 I'm a full-time student.

03:18:58.460 Oh, wow.

03:18:58.960 That'd be impressive.

03:18:59.820 I work full-time. 1.00

03:19:00.060 I'm a single mom, and I go to school full-time, so fuck you. 1.00

03:19:02.680 Oh, wow. 1.00

03:19:04.020 Sophia, do you want to read this?

03:19:07.100 Traditionally, men pay for first dates because they both knew each other beforehand, and there are social repercussions to accepting a date when the woman is not actually interested in the man and looking forward to the second before the first.

03:19:19.220 That's not the case anymore.

03:19:21.640 Yo, Sam, thank you for the $50 super chat, man.

03:19:24.880 Really appreciate it.

03:19:26.400 Yeah, so, I mean, Sophia, you said that the guy should pay for the first date.

03:19:30.680 Yes.

03:19:35.500 That's all we got to say.

03:19:36.200 Why are you shaking?

03:19:36.960 I mean, we already went over this.

03:19:38.140 Yeah, we already talked.

03:19:38.920 I have a question for you.

03:19:39.860 Yeah.

03:19:40.280 The woman, do you one day hope to get married? 1.00

03:19:44.260 No.

03:19:45.060 Okay.

03:19:45.560 Oh.

03:19:46.220 Really?

03:19:46.880 I feel like that was obvious.

03:19:48.080 It's California.

03:19:48.640 No, I mean, I think you can be, I think, well, marriage is just a big L for men.

03:19:56.760 There's no reason as a guy to get married.

03:19:59.020 Well, I think that companionship is a huge thing for human beings.

03:20:02.400 Well, I didn't say, I could have a life partner.

03:20:04.720 Yeah.

03:20:05.000 I can be monogamous with one girl.

03:20:06.840 Yeah.

03:20:07.040 However, marriage, the way that the laws are.

03:20:09.660 Yeah, the ring on the finger.

03:20:10.820 I understand that.

03:20:11.660 You don't want to be legally binded to someone.

03:20:12.160 Okay.

03:20:12.940 Well.

03:20:13.340 For like the rest of, I get that.

03:20:14.940 Like, I get that.

03:20:15.200 Well, I could be with someone for the rest of my life.

03:20:18.680 Sure.

03:20:19.560 And I, in fact, I think that's quite desirable of a situation to be in.

03:20:23.440 However, the way marriage, the, as far as the laws go, it's, it's terrible for men, but you

03:20:32.040 were going to say something.

03:20:32.940 Go ahead.

03:20:33.260 Okay.

03:20:33.460 So, so this person you could see yourself committing to.

03:20:36.620 Yeah.

03:20:37.440 It is high up on your list of things you, you know, attributes of this person and things

03:20:41.980 you'd like to feel about this person.

03:20:43.060 Do you want to respect them?

03:20:44.660 Like.

03:20:45.600 You think you can't respect someone if you don't want to get married to them or.

03:20:49.100 No, no, no, no, no, not at all.

03:20:51.220 Maybe I should have framed that the other way, but.

03:20:53.440 My partner, I certainly hope so.

03:20:56.080 Okay.

03:20:56.880 I just, I feel like you said a few things.

03:20:58.920 Like, I don't care if she's funny.

03:21:00.140 I don't care if she has personality, which is totally fine, you know?

03:21:03.320 Well, I don't.

03:21:04.680 I think you said bland.

03:21:05.420 The funny thing, yes.

03:21:06.300 You said you're like a boring girl.

03:21:07.300 I think you said bland, but I just, you know, I, I am wondering, like, is respect you feel

03:21:12.600 for your partner?

03:21:13.060 I think this might play into the smart thing.

03:21:14.780 Like, I feel that I am most respected when someone understands my intelligence.

03:21:19.000 So, is the person you see yourself with long-term a smart intellectual that you respect?

03:21:28.080 She, she need not necessarily be smart or intellectual.

03:21:32.940 I, I don't have anything against, I've dated women who are, I would say, hold on, let me 0.99

03:21:36.820 finish.

03:21:37.360 I've dated women who I would say are smarter than me. 1.00

03:21:40.520 In fact, I'd honestly say that the previous girl I dated was, she's a PhD studying, like,

03:21:46.460 brain, something with the brain.

03:21:48.380 Like, probably, at least book-wise, smarter than me, more intelligent than me.

03:21:53.240 Perhaps in other facets, I'm more intelligent than her, but I'm open to dating a girl who's

03:21:58.540 more intelligent than me.

03:21:59.400 But it's not like, I don't care.

03:22:02.880 Like, it's not really part of the equation.

03:22:05.180 I just, I feel like that's so funny because you run a podcast, like, you must like good

03:22:10.720 conversation.

03:22:11.460 Don't you want to be with someone that can hold a good conversation and add something

03:22:15.660 to it?

03:22:16.900 I mean, like, if she can, if I can have a conversation with her, but I don't need a

03:22:21.980 girl who's, like, got insane charisma and can tell good stories and has a witty comeback 0.99

03:22:27.280 to, like, everything.

03:22:28.360 Okay.

03:22:28.640 It's a very low priority.

03:22:30.440 Okay.

03:22:30.720 I don't care.

03:22:31.540 I care about other personality traits.

03:22:35.040 Chiefly, does she bring me peace?

03:22:37.740 That's the most important thing, personality-wise, a girl can bring me because I have a very stressful 0.98

03:22:42.820 job.

03:22:43.520 The last thing I want to do is have a girlfriend that's always wanting to argue.

03:22:48.940 Yeah.

03:22:49.120 We're always in some sort of conflict.

03:22:51.220 The biggest thing a girl can bring me, personality-wise, is peace and calm.

03:22:56.160 Okay.

03:22:56.400 I have a brother.

03:22:59.320 I love him very much.

03:23:00.640 And he tells me about what he wants in, like, a girlfriend or, like, somebody to, like, be

03:23:04.620 with for a very long time.

03:23:06.040 It's just, like, like, the compassion and empathy and, like, just to have somebody, like, to be

03:23:11.300 there with him, for him, and to, like, support him.

03:23:14.820 And just, he said, just don't make our lives hard.

03:23:17.760 But, yeah, I mean, and also, I think one of the reasons why women tend to want intelligent 1.00

03:23:23.960 men is if you're intelligent, then you're more capable of providing provisioning.

03:23:32.980 If you're intelligent, like, intelligent people tend to be higher earners, whereas, like, we

03:23:38.060 as men, we don't really care about a woman's ambition or, excuse me, or her success.

03:23:44.740 Do you have a response?

03:23:45.780 Do you have a thought on that?

03:23:48.500 No.

03:23:49.140 No comment, actually.

03:23:50.920 Rin? 0.98

03:23:51.700 Oh, she's waking up.

03:23:53.840 I just, like, just the stuff we were talking about before, like, you guys, you know, you

03:23:56.840 guys had it down, so I didn't really say anything.

03:23:59.100 But, like, what were we talking about?

03:24:02.440 What?

03:24:02.580 We were talking about...

03:24:04.560 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

03:24:06.660 So, a lot of men, like, they want, like, they want their women to help them feel more masculine.

03:24:12.420 Like, my dad, he, like, he likes dating girls that, like, he can take care of because he

03:24:17.660 feels more, like, you know, like, they like feeling like men.

03:24:20.920 Yeah, that makes sense.

03:24:21.340 They like feeling masculine.

03:24:22.540 And I think that plays into the fact that, you know, men and women have different roles

03:24:26.920 in life.

03:24:27.780 And I think that in a perfect relationship, a man brings out a woman's femininity, and 1.00

03:24:33.020 a woman brings out a man's masculinity. 1.00

03:24:35.980 Okay.

03:24:36.560 So, things like opening a woman's door should play into that. 1.00

03:24:41.700 Okay, but...

03:24:42.700 Thank you for staying.

03:24:43.960 But, okay, so, you kind of made a grimace when I said most men don't really care about

03:24:50.200 a woman's ambition or her success.

03:24:52.120 Sophia, you made a face, too.

03:24:57.460 What...

03:24:57.900 I don't even think that's true.

03:24:59.800 Okay, this is why I make a grimace.

03:25:02.440 Because one day, hope to be a great wife, and I just, I want to believe that that is

03:25:06.820 not true.

03:25:07.680 I think that, you know, when you're born, you have somewhat of a personality.

03:25:11.680 And my whole life, I've been ambitious, and I want big things for myself.

03:25:16.300 And I look at that as a pro.

03:25:18.700 So, whether a man, you know, doesn't, does or doesn't value that, you know, I wouldn't

03:25:23.640 want to be with a man who just wants a trophy wife. 1.00

03:25:27.540 You know, I want someone who can respect what I'm doing and care about me.

03:25:31.400 You know, I'm not just a physical object.

03:25:33.740 Like, I do, and I totally agree, the best thing in a relationship is when you bring each

03:25:38.140 other peace.

03:25:38.800 Like, so, the grimace comes from the fact that, like, I don't believe that, you know,

03:25:48.360 it's a turnoff for guys that I have.

03:25:51.080 I'm not saying it's a turnoff, but men don't really prioritize it.

03:25:55.280 Okay.

03:25:55.800 It's not, it can be a turnoff in the sense that if you want to be successful in business

03:26:01.580 or in the corporate world, excuse me, you need to cultivate a certain cutthroatness that

03:26:07.360 you wouldn't otherwise need to cultivate.

03:26:09.960 And we spend most of our time at work.

03:26:13.300 When you start becoming cutthroat in the corporate world, in business, that's going to seep into

03:26:19.020 your broader personality.

03:26:21.360 Yeah, I totally understand.

03:26:22.920 I grew up with corporate parents and my dad's an attorney.

03:26:25.280 So, I haven't had to be in the work world to get those things.

03:26:29.540 You mentioned attorneys.

03:26:30.500 Attorneys are typically, have to be very disagreeable.

03:26:33.700 Yes.

03:26:33.840 So, for example, a female attorney, she's going to have to cultivate her ability to be disagreeable 1.00

03:26:39.180 because there's negotiations.

03:26:40.820 There's, you need to know, you need, you like very much by the rules and by the book.

03:26:45.220 So, it's not necessarily, like, you can still be very feminine and also be successful, but

03:26:54.180 a lot of women who are, get into the corporate world, become very successful. 1.00

03:26:58.180 They lose that femininity. 1.00

03:26:58.460 They do lose a little bit of it, but the main thing that I would say to this, it's not so

03:27:02.380 much that, it's, you're like, oh, well, I would hope that a guy cares about my success

03:27:08.720 and ambition.

03:27:09.580 All of you at this table said that you want the guy to pay for the first date.

03:27:14.840 I assume you also want that guy to continue providing throughout the relationship.

03:27:19.060 Men don't care about your money and your ambition and your success chiefly because you do not

03:27:25.220 share your resources with men the same way that men share their resources with women.

03:27:30.360 All of you said you want the guy to pay for the first date.

03:27:33.340 So, we don't receive a benefit.

03:27:35.840 Men don't receive a tangible benefit by your success.

03:27:39.220 I don't think that that's true at all.

03:27:41.260 All the girls here said they'd want the guy to pay for the first date. 1.00

03:27:44.240 But let's say we're, you know, we're married.

03:27:46.720 If a man and a woman are married and a woman has income, you know, I would hope that she 0.92

03:27:52.640 helps pay some bills.

03:27:54.260 And I think that that's okay.

03:27:56.260 You know, unless the man is so, you know, stable that he can take care of the both of

03:28:00.740 them or the woman is choosing to be a mother and she wants to devote her time there. 0.58

03:28:04.000 Okay.

03:28:04.120 But there are definitely women that even beyond the first date still want the guy to continue 1.00

03:28:10.380 paying for dates.

03:28:11.220 There are some women I, you know, I can prove it. 1.00

03:28:15.440 Did you want to continue?

03:28:16.720 Yeah.

03:28:17.180 I think that a lot of reasonable women would say into the relationship, if you have shown

03:28:22.480 your interest in me enough, a by asking me out and treating me well and putting your

03:28:27.420 card down the first couple of dates, I said, I'm happy to start, you know, paying, splitting,

03:28:31.960 tipping this, that, the other thing.

03:28:33.440 After the first couple of dates.

03:28:34.540 If I know that I like you, I would love to be in a relationship where I do this for you

03:28:39.680 and you do this for me.

03:28:41.260 Okay.

03:28:41.740 So.

03:28:41.940 I think, I think what a lot of men have a problem with like the boss babe thing and why

03:28:45.480 the boss babe thing isn't appealing is because we kind of have this expectation that he should

03:28:50.800 be okay with being second to a career where like your, your boss that you work for will

03:28:56.840 replace you tomorrow and your man will not.

03:28:59.160 I think that's what men have a very big problem with when it comes to, well, you know, I want

03:29:04.340 this high status profession.

03:29:05.500 He's like, okay, well, how much am I going to matter?

03:29:08.280 Cause there's, there's also been, and this would be anecdotal, right?

03:29:11.820 But there's been conversations where, um, men have asked their woman to quit their jobs

03:29:16.480 because it's dysfunctional with the family.

03:29:19.700 There's something going wrong.

03:29:21.160 And the woman says like, no, absolutely. 0.69

03:29:23.120 I will not quit my job.

03:29:24.200 So you're literally choosing, you know, your, your boss who would replace you over him.

03:29:29.340 And that's not okay.

03:29:31.160 And I don't think your, your job should come first as a man either, but I think oftentimes

03:29:35.620 anything, cause family should be first, but like if you're a man and you have to deal

03:29:39.980 with being in this high status profession to create that umbrella of, uh, financial security,

03:29:45.180 like, yeah, it's okay if your family's on the back burner because they're not truly on

03:29:48.760 the back burner for your career.

03:29:50.180 You're going through that so that you can benefit them.

03:29:56.460 Like what, what man wants to be second to a career?

03:29:58.520 Like the, the, our, these companies don't care about us.

03:30:00.880 Like, I don't think he's second to a really circumstantial kind of thing.

03:30:04.340 And it's, it's not that, it's not that certain, I'm not second in my job.

03:30:07.300 Like I can't, no one's going to, I mean, of course everyone's somewhat

03:30:09.840 replaceable, but it's like, I feel like you're just kind of spewing like these words, but

03:30:14.160 they don't really have any meaning.

03:30:15.320 So I have a question.

03:30:17.320 Is your answer to all of this, that women shouldn't work or that, you know, I should 1.00

03:30:21.160 quit my job because I mean, my dad's not paying my rent.

03:30:24.900 Like someone's got to do that.

03:30:26.560 Attorney?

03:30:26.900 Hello.

03:30:27.500 Yeah.

03:30:27.840 He raised me right.

03:30:29.360 He, you know, he also said.

03:30:30.860 Like, first of all, you said that this is like circumstantial, right?

03:30:33.660 And there's also like broad swaths of data where like, these are things that are going

03:30:37.340 to happen to women. 0.89

03:30:38.240 They're already happening.

03:30:39.020 Like when we're talking about making women equal to men in the marketplace, in the job

03:30:43.360 marketplace, it sounds good.

03:30:45.300 There are unintended consequences.

03:30:47.440 One unintended consequence is like 50% of women are projected to be single in 2030.

03:30:51.840 No, 45% of women from ages 25 to 44, right? 0.96

03:30:55.940 So we-

03:30:56.520 Because of their job?

03:30:57.980 No, because of like, because of being past the industrial revolution and because of economic

03:31:03.760 mobility, right?

03:31:05.040 That this is the unintended consequence of the boss babe culture. 0.74

03:31:08.920 That's one aspect.

03:31:09.960 And then we have this other aspect.

03:31:11.280 50.1% of women in the UK are childless by age 30.

03:31:13.920 That's another statistic.

03:31:15.200 So like, we've made it to this point where like, we've made ourselves completely equal

03:31:19.380 to men.

03:31:20.140 And it's like, that sounds really good in theory.

03:31:22.060 But if you're going to be like a mom and have children, you're going to have to make compromises

03:31:26.860 and structure your life differently.

03:31:28.300 And a lot of women like, they're not getting this. 1.00

03:31:30.500 You know what I mean?

03:31:30.880 So I'm not saying like, you need to quit your job and you need to stay home, right?

03:31:34.280 But we need to like, plan and act accordingly.

03:31:36.220 And putting a career ahead of your man is not a good way to get there.

03:31:39.420 Because he's probably going to need to cover you.

03:31:41.540 Like, a lot of this gender equality stuff sounds really cool and like, all this independence.

03:31:45.100 A lot of women who say this have not reproduced.

03:31:47.460 I have very much needed to depend on my husband in my pregnancy, first trimester, last trimester.

03:31:51.800 Any woman who's had a child knows this. 0.99

03:31:53.600 But we want to pretend like it doesn't exist.

03:31:55.400 And I think that the reason why we have these like, made up constructs, because you know,

03:31:58.920 like, everything's a social construct, is because we just are not seeing people get married

03:32:03.180 and build families.

03:32:04.740 No one is pretending like it doesn't exist.

03:32:07.120 And no one said that they would put their job over their husband, ever.

03:32:11.020 Right.

03:32:11.400 No one said that.

03:32:12.900 Okay, like.

03:32:13.440 I feel like that's another thing that you're kind of just making up.

03:32:15.660 Like, I bet every person here.

03:32:17.400 I think you have super valid points.

03:32:18.260 I understand what you're saying.

03:32:19.100 But I feel like every person here would say, of course, I would choose my family and my

03:32:22.300 husband over my job any day. 0.99

03:32:23.860 And I think that your idea of this boss babe thing is like what you're making up in your

03:32:28.140 head, but you're not considered a boss babe. 1.00

03:32:29.980 You don't have a job. 0.76

03:32:30.860 You don't, right?

03:32:31.480 You don't.

03:32:31.860 I mean, I do.

03:32:32.620 I do work, but that's like, it's relevant.

03:32:33.960 You know what I mean?

03:32:34.600 Like, but I mean, like you don't have like a traditional job.

03:32:36.580 Like, so I feel like you kind of can't really speak on it because you're not in.

03:32:39.520 I don't.

03:32:40.020 I don't.

03:32:40.580 I understand that you have a baby and you have a husband and you're in those shoes,

03:32:43.600 but I don't think that like, okay, you're trying to speak on the boss babe thing, but

03:32:47.080 you don't really fully get it.

03:32:48.800 Like, I'm giving you objective truths that I can prove.

03:32:51.400 I also have them on my phone.

03:32:52.600 I will give them to you immediately after the show.

03:32:54.820 Like, these are the consequences.

03:32:56.740 I believe you.

03:32:56.900 That's okay.

03:32:57.980 These are the consequences of us putting careers ahead of men.

03:33:01.380 Like, that's the thing.

03:33:02.440 Who's doing that?

03:33:02.900 Well, this is, this is what, hold on, hold on.

03:33:05.360 Like, women are putting careers ahead of men to the point that they would rather have 1.00

03:33:08.980 that job than be with a man.

03:33:10.760 Then you don't have to do that.

03:33:12.560 Huh?

03:33:12.940 Then you don't have to do that.

03:33:15.180 Like, can you, can you explain?

03:33:16.560 If you don't want to do that, then don't do that.

03:33:18.340 I don't think that the majority, if you don't want to do what?

03:33:20.160 If you don't want to put your job over your husband, then don't do that.

03:33:22.740 I mean, you don't even have a corporate job.

03:33:24.920 You know what I mean?

03:33:25.420 And I think that you're saying, well, women do that where, who, when?

03:33:30.400 Like, this is, this is what I'm saying.

03:33:32.680 My subjective experience does not influence the numbers that I'm giving you.

03:33:37.760 This is like, to the point, this is the breakdown of the nuclear family. 0.52

03:33:40.640 And this was all because we're talking about like careers and men taking a second seat to

03:33:44.080 careers, right?

03:33:45.640 This is the projection.

03:33:46.700 Like, there are big banks and companies that are investing in like wine and cat food and

03:33:50.920 stuff because they know that there's going to be a bunch of us that are single.

03:33:53.280 Right?

03:33:54.200 So like what you guys are saying, your career is important.

03:33:57.880 Just don't forget that your man and your family should come before it.

03:34:01.200 Okay.

03:34:01.620 Thank you.

03:34:02.160 Thank you.

03:34:02.560 We'll get rid of you tomorrow.

03:34:03.160 Thank you so much for, for re, you know, reinstating that because I believe that we all

03:34:09.240 agree with you.

03:34:09.940 And I think that that's why we're becoming disengaged is because we all agree with you.

03:34:14.200 And it, there's just so much we can hear about it.

03:34:16.400 We all agree with you.

03:34:17.760 Okay.

03:34:18.120 Let me, let's, let's move it along a little bit.

03:34:20.000 I'll just add a couple things here.

03:34:21.980 So when it comes to the employer dynamic, so a lot of women are trading, instead of 1.00

03:34:28.100 being submissive to a husband, they're going to be submissive to an employer. 1.00

03:34:31.680 Um, and also something that you hear, is it really worth going into this?

03:34:38.120 You hear when we kind of view money a little bit differently.

03:34:42.760 So like when women make a lot of money, they think I don't need a man. 1.00

03:34:48.480 I'm strong and independent.

03:34:50.200 When a man makes a lot of money, he says I can provide for my family, my wife and my

03:34:54.920 children.

03:34:55.520 Okay.

03:34:56.520 So we kind of view that differently.

03:34:58.600 Um, really quick on the, just the paying thing, because I just wanted to add to this.

03:35:01.800 Because I would pay, I would provide for a woman if she's like, she's going to have to 1.00

03:35:08.960 be like 21 and in college or something.

03:35:14.680 But like, if I'm dating a 27 year old attorney who's making 200 K, I'm not paying for the

03:35:21.700 first date.

03:35:22.400 Also, I'm not going to pay if you're going on seven dates a week.

03:35:25.440 So then why are you going out with her at all?

03:35:28.220 Because I'm not. 0.59

03:35:29.060 Purely for sex?

03:35:30.580 I don't object to dating someone who's successful or who makes money.

03:35:34.980 Okay.

03:35:35.360 But what's the end to your dating?

03:35:36.880 What's the point?

03:35:37.680 Like, why are you, are you, is the reason you're dating now just for, you know, casual

03:35:43.700 dating or is it because you, you know, you're looking for that lifelong partner and going

03:35:50.180 back.

03:35:50.680 I value long-term relationships. 0.99

03:35:51.980 I'm not interested in one night stands or fucking someone once or twice and never talking 0.99

03:35:57.200 to them again. 0.98

03:35:57.780 I've always valued having a continuity with the, the women I choose to date.

03:36:03.220 So I, what's that?

03:36:04.580 Monogamy.

03:36:05.660 Being monogamous.

03:36:06.600 Well, monogamy, but also I don't like, I don't want to just, it doesn't interest me to 1.00

03:36:11.480 just fuck a bunch of chicks once. 1.00

03:36:13.220 That's pointless to me. 1.00

03:36:15.180 It's not, it's not fulfilling.

03:36:17.420 It's a waste of time and it's just.

03:36:19.160 Yeah, it isn't fulfilling.

03:36:20.440 So what's your, what do you have to say about him?

03:36:23.680 You know, I, I wouldn't pay for a date because this woman. 1.00

03:36:26.320 Well, I assume she disagrees, but.

03:36:27.960 No, I mean, it's not about me disagreeing.

03:36:29.660 Like, I honestly, I think Brian is just trying to smash.

03:36:32.180 And if you're just trying to smash.

03:36:33.940 No, like it's fine.

03:36:34.640 Like I just asked him.

03:36:35.460 You're 33 and you're single and you, you make a lot of money.

03:36:38.160 Like hello, millions of subscribers, right?

03:36:40.080 Just trying to get some, like it's cool.

03:36:42.000 Brian isn't trying to get married.

03:36:43.860 It's okay.

03:36:44.560 You don't want to pay for the first date.

03:36:45.680 Trying to get some nookie at, you know, you're able to do this. 0.93

03:36:48.680 You know what I mean?

03:36:49.580 It's okay.

03:36:50.700 Yeah.

03:36:51.160 Well, I mean, I, I'm not just trying to have a one night stand with a girl.

03:36:56.060 That doesn't interest me.

03:36:57.180 So like, oh, here's my thing.

03:36:58.780 You want this, you, you said that you want like an LTR, right?

03:37:02.480 Do you like, what do you want?

03:37:03.780 Cause like the, your results in dating, like the goal, you have to determine what your goal

03:37:08.600 is, right?

03:37:09.080 So for like some men, their goal in dating, which I morally disagree with, but I'm not

03:37:14.220 here to argue morality.

03:37:15.860 Like some guy's goal in dating is to just be able to have variety and to get some occasionally.

03:37:20.380 They're not necessarily trying to settle down.

03:37:22.000 And then there's other men who want to have a wife and children.

03:37:26.580 That's different, you know?

03:37:27.800 So like, I can't tell you what I think about your, your metric and dating.

03:37:31.660 It's like, is it working or not?

03:37:33.340 You know what I mean?

03:37:34.420 Like that's, that's what, you know, you're, you're right.

03:37:36.560 Like he's probably not looking for a wife.

03:37:38.660 Okay.

03:37:39.020 That's his right and his prerogative to not be looking for a wife.

03:37:41.900 Well, marriage is an L.

03:37:42.860 So, I mean, I just, I, I can't, I'm looking, I, I am looking for a long-term partner, but

03:37:51.280 marriage is, I can't do it. 0.95

03:37:54.680 I tried it.

03:37:56.860 I would try it again with the right person.

03:37:59.440 Yeah.

03:37:59.840 So, Allie, how do you feel about, um, dating someone for 10 years?

03:38:05.900 Because I, I, I'm just curious to hear what you have to say about this because, you know,

03:38:09.420 I know people that are like, if he has not asked you to marry him after three years, he,

03:38:13.760 he's not gonna, like, he, he doesn't see you as a wife.

03:38:16.320 You're just a placeholder.

03:38:17.840 So.

03:38:18.560 So that's probably true.

03:38:19.960 Marriage right now sits at a rate of six per 1,000 people.

03:38:22.580 They didn't say, they didn't include age.

03:38:24.440 This is like CDC data.

03:38:25.320 So I think it's just like the number of people, right?

03:38:27.420 So marriage is the lowest it's ever been in recorded history.

03:38:30.180 Yeah.

03:38:30.480 So in terms of like what I think about it, I think that you do modern dating practices,

03:38:34.720 you get modern dating results.

03:38:35.980 And like, it doesn't seem like men or women are really happy with that.

03:38:39.160 At the same time, you know, are people willing to compromise and pursue traditional values

03:38:44.700 and conventional values?

03:38:46.480 Because liberal women used to be normal in the nineties. 1.00

03:38:48.640 I don't know what happened.

03:38:49.660 Things have changed.

03:38:50.400 So it's like what, what normally happens is you have the same likelihood to break up

03:38:55.800 as you do to divorce, like per the data.

03:38:57.580 Right.

03:38:58.080 Okay.

03:38:58.520 Um, and so if, I mean, if that's true, then yeah, you, you do have the likelihood to separate

03:39:05.540 that's equal on top of that.

03:39:06.980 What people are doing now is they're cohabitating longer, right?

03:39:09.900 So they're delaying marriage.

03:39:11.220 So you cohabitate for several years.

03:39:13.360 Oh, we're against that.

03:39:15.220 Well, don't cohabitate guys. 0.88

03:39:16.860 Well, his argument's different.

03:39:18.320 So like when we're looking at what people are doing and the results that they're getting

03:39:22.300 cohabitation is longer and maybe you'll get married if you're one of the six per 1000.

03:39:28.160 So if you are with that man and you're cohabitating for several years, it's very, very statistically

03:39:33.400 unlikely that he's going to marry you just by the numbers.

03:39:36.640 So I do agree with that.

03:39:37.980 Like if you're looking for marriage and this man's been with you like three, 10 years,

03:39:41.400 he's probably not going to marry you.

03:39:43.120 If it happens, amazing.

03:39:44.560 You're an exception to the rule, but that's just what's happening right now.

03:39:47.480 Okay, so I have a theoretical for you.

03:39:49.320 I meet a guy tomorrow.

03:39:50.540 He's the most amazing thing ever.

03:39:51.800 I love him so much, but I'm 18.

03:39:54.340 I do not want to get married super young.

03:39:57.320 I, my parents, like my parents are divorced and both of their spouses have been divorced

03:40:01.040 and divorce is awful and the worst thing ever.

03:40:03.700 I would like to be sure that I want to be with this person before I put a ring on it and become,

03:40:10.220 you know, I, I, I think that, you know, as if I'm in a long-term relationship with somebody,

03:40:14.420 I will be acting as a, I would be, you know, as committed to them as I would in our marriage.

03:40:22.360 But I think that, you know, dating someone for five, six, seven, eight years, like I don't,

03:40:29.740 I think that it's a good thing.

03:40:31.560 Yeah.

03:40:31.920 But then that, then you're not a traditional woman. 1.00

03:40:34.440 Okay.

03:40:34.840 Do you see like the compromise with that?

03:40:36.740 Like, it seems like there's some things that you want with modern dating and there's some

03:40:40.360 things that you want with traditional dating.

03:40:41.800 And that is typically going to conflict in one way, shape or form.

03:40:44.580 Right.

03:40:45.180 So like, if you're going to be cohabitating, it's very likely that you're having premarital

03:40:48.620 sex.

03:40:49.120 That's another indicator that you're not traditional and it's okay if you aren't like, I didn't

03:40:53.340 have the most traditional setup that allowed me to get married, you know, but I was able

03:40:56.280 to swing a marriage, but every single statistic was against me.

03:40:59.180 I'm the exception to the rule.

03:41:00.440 I would never recommend for women to do what I did. 1.00

03:41:02.820 What you're saying is what people are doing.

03:41:04.740 My thing is like, is it working?

03:41:06.660 Because if marriage is six per 1000 and a lot of women probably want to get married, then I 1.00

03:41:10.980 don't think that it's working.

03:41:11.980 But I also think that women are, we're so, we're more agreeable than men on average.

03:41:15.580 Do you guys know that?

03:41:16.940 Okay.

03:41:17.420 So like, I think we just suck at negotiating and being like, Hey, I would like to get married.

03:41:23.220 We just don't have that conversation.

03:41:24.560 You know what I mean?

03:41:25.360 Because we want to keep that guy when we could have that conversation.

03:41:28.320 But are we prepared to walk if he says, no, I don't want to get married.

03:41:32.800 Do you see?

03:41:33.560 Like these are just different things that you have to like, I guess, consider.

03:41:37.160 I tried, I try my very best not to argue too subjectively.

03:41:40.240 And I try to give you guys like objective, objective data and stats.

03:41:43.000 So like this modern dating is, I think the sexual revolution did not help us is my point.

03:41:49.180 Gentlemen, don't get married.

03:41:50.360 Never sign a contract with someone who is rewarded for breaking it.

03:41:55.800 Don't sign contracts that don't benefit you.

03:41:57.840 Right.

03:41:58.140 We should probably, I mean, it's another thing.

03:42:00.420 So when we're talking about like security and marriage, we have it as women. 0.94

03:42:03.520 Just so you guys know, the family courts are greatly in our favor.

03:42:05.820 We file most divorces.

03:42:06.900 We get more cases of alimony and we get more cases of child support.

03:42:09.880 So like a lot of the fear that we get, like you need to be really, really sure that this

03:42:13.960 is the guy, because what if you end up homeless and on the street?

03:42:16.500 It's very unlikely that that's going to occur.

03:42:18.680 So that fear for women is made up.

03:42:20.560 That fear for men, that is true. 0.98

03:42:23.100 My fear is.

03:42:23.700 You really can't steal half your stuff.

03:42:24.860 My fear is for my children.

03:42:26.380 Yeah.

03:42:26.580 And, and I think that growing up in a single family household, or I apologize, single parent

03:42:31.200 household, even if they're divorced is incredibly damaging.

03:42:34.520 And, you know, I don't know.

03:42:36.360 Oh, actually I do know.

03:42:37.680 So I think that we can all agree having divorced parents is not a good thing for a person growing

03:42:43.780 up.

03:42:44.400 Yeah.

03:42:44.740 Yeah.

03:42:44.920 I mean, it's like, it puts your kid at every statistical disadvantage, like, like wildly

03:42:48.260 so.

03:42:49.320 Right.

03:42:49.880 So it just means that we need to try harder if we're going to be in long-term relationships

03:42:53.600 for the rest of our lives, which means that like women are going to have to doing some 1.00

03:42:57.000 more work.

03:42:57.500 And that's the thing, like women don't understand how much autonomy they have over the quality 1.00

03:43:00.380 of their relationship.

03:43:01.620 You know, like we expect the man to fix it.

03:43:03.460 And it's like, well, what if you just like took a week or two, just changing something

03:43:06.520 about yourself and seeing how that goes.

03:43:08.600 Right.

03:43:08.860 Because, um, other thing too, personality differences on average between men and women were higher

03:43:13.700 in neuroses than men.

03:43:14.800 Do you guys understand that?

03:43:15.980 Mm-hmm.

03:43:16.740 Okay.

03:43:17.120 So like, that's another thing.

03:43:18.560 We tend to be a little bit more dissatisfied in general, even the statistics between virgin

03:43:22.920 husbands and virgin brides, the virgin husbands report being happier in their marriage than

03:43:27.720 the virgin brides.

03:43:28.620 Oh, wow.

03:43:29.200 So we're just a little bit more unhappy.

03:43:32.060 And that's why that you'll see, I mean, I don't know what other dating podcasts, like

03:43:35.140 what their goal is, but that's like the message that I preach on like my side of things.

03:43:38.880 It's like, we as women need to take charge in the femininity department and we can totally 1.00

03:43:43.280 do it.

03:43:43.800 And these traditional things that we say are like old school, they work, you know what I

03:43:47.760 mean?

03:43:48.760 Yeah.

03:43:49.760 But they're not going to work for most men. 0.84

03:43:50.760 I think marriage sucks for most men who get married. 0.93

03:43:52.760 Okay. 0.61

03:43:53.760 Guys, get your last minute super chats in here before we wrap up the show.

03:43:56.920 Probably going to try to wrap in about 10, 15 minutes.

03:43:59.600 So guys, get your last super chats and donations in if you want to.

03:44:03.100 All right.

03:44:03.440 So we do have a video to react to.

03:44:06.280 Eric, can you pull up the other video?

03:44:10.080 Were there two or three videos?

03:44:12.600 There's three.

03:44:13.180 Oh, pull up the, there's a short one, I think.

03:44:17.420 It's like a girl in a room, not, not the podcast one.

03:44:23.720 This is, uh, before you play it, actually, um, I'm just going to put it back center.

03:44:26.820 So this is kind of related to the whole entertainment conversation that we were having about like

03:44:31.200 women wanting dudes to be charismatic and charming and basically be entertainment on 0.99

03:44:38.100 dates.

03:44:39.620 There's Netflix for that, but okay, Eric, can you go ahead and pull it up?

03:44:42.240 Um, I met this guy, he's really, oh, can you, hold on, hold on.

03:44:47.540 Uh, can you pause the audio?

03:44:48.980 Cause it's, or mute the audio in my bed.

03:44:53.060 All right.

03:44:53.900 Uh, client, I met this guy.

03:44:57.000 He's really nice, but I don't care.

03:44:58.480 I don't know.

03:44:59.100 Uh, next or just, uh, play.

03:45:04.640 I don't feel that much chemistry with him.

03:45:07.640 He's boring and get ready to pause.

03:45:10.180 He doesn't trigger my anxious trauma response, which I confuse with love.

03:45:15.600 Um, so any reaction to that?

03:45:22.660 I think that's super valid.

03:45:24.520 I think that's super, super valid.

03:45:26.740 And, you know, growing up, seeing an unhappy marriage between my parents and, you know,

03:45:35.540 having an attorney as a dad, you, you, um, sense love in different ways.

03:45:41.180 And I absolutely have had to work through, and I'm still very much so trying to work

03:45:46.040 through, um, feeling comfortable in, you know, what would be a healthy relationship.

03:45:51.920 And if a guy, you know, I, I mean, I've said to Stella, oh, he went out, but he was boring.

03:45:56.440 Like it just, it didn't, you know, we had great conversation, but I just, I didn't feel

03:46:00.980 anything.

03:46:01.520 So yeah, I think that's super valid.

03:46:04.940 Yeah.

03:46:05.300 I mean, pretty much just when the whole vibe chemistry thing, it's to me, it's just this

03:46:09.900 nebulous term.

03:46:10.880 What does that even mean?

03:46:12.180 I mean, I often hear from girls, the guy could otherwise be perfectly pleasant, treat

03:46:17.580 you well, even be attractive.

03:46:19.740 Checks all the boxes.

03:46:20.380 But you just don't feel that.

03:46:22.420 And like guys, it's just very different because guys, we don't, we don't look.

03:46:29.720 Also, I think it's the vibe is something the guy brings.

03:46:34.200 That's it's, it's the guy that's lacking something that is eliciting the vibe in you, the vibe.

03:46:42.080 How often do women bring the vibe? 1.00

03:46:45.540 It's just, the guy isn't charismatic enough.

03:46:47.880 He's not funny.

03:46:48.560 He's not entertaining.

03:46:49.420 He's not, well, what I'll say is, is I, I bring my vibe everywhere that I go.

03:46:54.860 And if he has anything going on and it starts and we're just, if it's flowing seamlessly,

03:47:00.840 you know, if we're just talking and we can have good conversation and we, I don't have

03:47:06.740 to think, oh gosh, what should I ask him next?

03:47:08.580 Like, what should I remember to bring up?

03:47:10.260 Because we're going to run out of conversation.

03:47:12.080 That's what I mean by the vibe.

03:47:13.580 If, if we are on the same wavelength, you know, intellectually, and we can have a lot of

03:47:17.600 people intellectually and we can have a solid conversation.

03:47:21.420 That's when I feel the vibe.

03:47:23.040 But I think when you're searching for the electricity, the chemistry, the vibe, the click, the butterflies, 0.95

03:47:29.160 whatever bullshit term you want to call it, this is why women fall for players. 1.00

03:47:35.040 Yeah. 0.99

03:47:35.480 Because they're charismatic.

03:47:36.460 They excite you, they tell good stories, they have charisma, but we as men, we are not

03:47:41.220 your entertainers.

03:47:43.020 If you want entertainment, go watch Netflix.

03:47:47.020 Like, we, we don't exist to make you entertained.

03:47:52.300 So, I don't know.

03:47:53.120 I think.

03:47:53.780 I think she's just talking about the fact that a guy needs to be able to hold a conversation.

03:47:57.700 Like, we're not, we're not, we're not expecting them to, we're not expecting them to do a

03:48:01.360 little, a little. 0.99

03:48:02.880 Holy shit. 0.99

03:48:04.580 Mark Coons super chatted $500. 1.00

03:48:07.860 Ladies.

03:48:08.320 Whoa.

03:48:08.880 Thank you, man.

03:48:09.380 Would you date a guy in the oil industry in North Dakota?

03:48:12.640 By the way, I'm in my mid forties.

03:48:15.400 Hold on.

03:48:16.040 Actually, that really quick, that triggers, uh, fireworks.

03:48:19.760 Yo, Mark Coons.

03:48:21.600 Thank you.

03:48:22.000 Thank you for the big $500 soup chat. 0.99

03:48:24.080 Holy shit, man. 1.00

03:48:25.280 Dude. 0.99

03:48:25.680 Thank you so fucking much, man. 0.88

03:48:27.740 I really appreciate your patronage, man. 0.96

03:48:29.580 That's really nice.

03:48:30.660 Uh, so, what, what was the question?

03:48:33.300 Would you date a guy that works in the oil industry in Dakota?

03:48:36.320 He's in his mid forties, by the way.

03:48:38.180 No, I have a boyfriend.

03:48:40.060 Uh, Wren?

03:48:40.820 But if I was single, maybe.

03:48:42.740 Just because he's 40.

03:48:46.180 Forty too old?

03:48:47.320 Yeah.

03:48:48.660 Okay.

03:48:49.500 I don't want to move to North Dakota, personally.

03:48:51.940 Yeah, at this point, Forty's a little old for myself.

03:48:58.500 North Dakota, then?

03:48:59.920 I'd love to move to some random little state.

03:49:02.680 I, I can't wait to get out of California.

03:49:04.440 He owns, like, seven oil derricks.

03:49:08.320 Have you seen, uh, There Will Be Blood?

03:49:10.540 The critically acclaimed film by Daniel Day-Lewis?

03:49:13.860 No.

03:49:14.120 No.

03:49:14.580 This guy's a direct descendant of Daniel Plainview.

03:49:18.080 Wow.

03:49:18.520 Oil man.

03:49:19.400 He's an oil man.

03:49:21.380 Wow.

03:49:21.900 Okay.

03:49:22.340 That's old money.

03:49:23.320 What about you?

03:49:23.500 Would you do it?

03:49:24.880 Okay.

03:49:25.240 Sorry.

03:49:25.940 All right.

03:49:26.380 What were we talking about?

03:49:27.480 The vibe?

03:49:28.300 The, thank you, uh, what was his name again?

03:49:30.820 I think you were just trying to tell us that energy is not a real thing, and I think it

03:49:35.020 very much is.

03:49:35.820 We don't, we don't need you to do, like, a whole song and dance for us, but if you can,

03:49:40.620 like she was saying, I don't need to be the one pulling the conversation the whole time.

03:49:44.980 I think it's a mutual thing.

03:49:46.560 I think it's either there or it's not.

03:49:48.100 Yeah.

03:49:48.400 Yeah.

03:49:48.880 Like, if, if I did what most women do on first dates, like, if I didn't carry the conversation, 0.96

03:49:55.320 I guaranteed that it would be awkward silence all the fucking time for most dates I go on. 0.96

03:50:00.020 So then you're dating the wrong women. 0.98

03:50:01.800 No, it's just, y'all can't really carry a conversation.

03:50:04.740 I, I wish I could experience myself on a date because I can only speak for myself.

03:50:10.700 Hold on.

03:50:11.340 Sophia, you and me on our date.

03:50:12.920 I'm going to do, okay.

03:50:14.740 Lead, lead the conversation.

03:50:17.640 Like, we're first meeting, we're sitting down.

03:50:19.700 Hey, it's good to see you.

03:50:20.760 Good to meet you.

03:50:22.320 Um, where are you from?

03:50:23.420 What are you, whatever.

03:50:24.700 San Barbara.

03:50:28.280 Oh, here, I'll, I'll, sure.

03:50:29.980 What about you?

03:50:31.120 I'm from Tahoe.

03:50:34.740 Do you know where that is?

03:50:36.120 Yeah, it's like up north.

03:50:37.260 Yeah, yeah.

03:50:37.920 Have you ever been?

03:50:40.140 Nope.

03:50:41.060 That's cool.

03:50:41.660 Well, you should visit sometime.

03:50:43.680 Yeah.

03:50:44.220 Do you, where'd you go to school?

03:50:47.680 Where'd I go to school?

03:50:48.420 UCLA, and then, you know, CC first, you know.

03:50:52.460 That's cool.

03:50:53.240 Yeah.

03:50:53.380 Um, personally, I go to school in Santa Barbara.

03:50:55.940 Oh, cool.

03:50:57.000 Have you, yeah?

03:50:58.200 Do you like Santa Barbara?

03:50:59.160 Do you visit SoCal very often, or went to school in LA?

03:51:02.680 Did you ever go to Santa Barbara?

03:51:05.040 Yeah, occasionally. 0.94

03:51:06.060 Like, we went to IV to, like, party and shit, you know. 0.64

03:51:08.620 Got drunk, whatever. 0.98

03:51:10.660 What's the point here?

03:51:12.000 Where are we going with this?

03:51:13.840 The fact that.

03:51:14.480 It's a role-playing conversation.

03:51:15.680 Yeah.

03:51:16.260 Yeah. 0.97

03:51:16.840 He's demonstrating how bland women are. 1.00

03:51:19.560 But when you. 0.91

03:51:19.840 Oh, this is like, you're supposed to be.

03:51:21.180 When you asked this woman out on a date, did you not already realize she's totally bland? 1.00

03:51:25.120 And I thought you said you were into the bland.

03:51:27.820 You did say that.

03:51:29.680 It's a bit, I mean, it's a little different what I'm getting at here.

03:51:33.180 Okay.

03:51:35.780 I think what you're getting at is, you're saying that, why do men have to constantly carry conversation

03:51:40.600 on the first date, as well as putting the pressure of opening the car door and paying,

03:51:44.880 right?

03:51:45.120 Let me frame it.

03:51:46.360 That's pretty good.

03:51:48.320 What's that?

03:51:49.640 No, that was perfect.

03:51:50.500 That was a comprehensive analysis.

03:51:51.740 Do you want to repeat it?

03:51:52.420 Yeah.

03:51:53.440 Go ahead.

03:51:53.940 Repeat it.

03:51:54.800 So I'm saying, like, apart from that, like, his point is that, you know, men are the ones

03:52:00.840 that have to carry everything.

03:52:01.980 They have to carry the conversation on the first date.

03:52:03.740 They have to open the doors on the first date.

03:52:05.200 They have to pay on the first date.

03:52:06.320 So I think what Brian is trying to say is, what do women bring on a first date?

03:52:13.380 Sort of.

03:52:13.980 We had this whole conversation.

03:52:15.460 Sort of.

03:52:15.740 Yeah.

03:52:15.940 But he's saying, like, why do the men have to carry everything?

03:52:19.440 But what I'm saying is, what I'm saying is, is that the vibe, the click, the chemistry,

03:52:23.620 that is something that's going to be elicited by the man, typically through some conversation

03:52:29.040 or the vibe, the click, the chemistry can also be elicited if he is, say, two points

03:52:35.200 or three points higher than you in terms of attractiveness.

03:52:38.540 So a guy can elicit it by being very charismatic but being equivalent to you in looks, but

03:52:44.340 if he's also very attractive, you're more likely to feel the vibe, the click, the connection.

03:52:49.460 Yeah, women like to date more attractive men. 0.93

03:52:51.520 Right.

03:52:51.760 Yeah.

03:52:52.080 But the point I'm trying to say is, we're talking about, like, caring conversations.

03:52:55.740 Like, bro, if I, okay, on dating apps, for example, if I'm messaging with a girl, I

03:53:04.800 almost wish we could play this out, like, on Instagram.

03:53:06.800 If one of you were, like, messaging me, we role-played back and forth on Instagram as

03:53:10.780 if we matched on the dating app, like, I could pretty clearly show you, like, as a dude, you

03:53:15.360 have to carry and lead the conversation.

03:53:17.880 Totally.

03:53:18.380 But I also agree if you, you know, I'm not on any dating apps.

03:53:23.080 If I, you know, if I were, I mean, I've had people slide into my Instagram DMs, so I

03:53:27.900 guess I can speak on this.

03:53:29.200 If someone hits me up and they say, hey, you know, and we happen to be in the same area,

03:53:34.160 if they would like to set up a date with me or whatever, I would probably go ahead and

03:53:41.500 do that.

03:53:41.760 I wouldn't have him pick me up in that case because I don't know him.

03:53:44.220 It would be a public place, midday, whatever.

03:53:47.860 But, like, I don't think you should be just going back and forth.

03:53:51.520 What do you have to talk about?

03:53:52.640 Like, I think that you should sit down and initially see if there's any attraction there.

03:53:57.900 Like, there's a physical thing that you should probably test out first.

03:54:04.840 I don't think men carry the conversation. 0.96

03:54:06.960 I think that when you go on a date, there's either a connection and you guys hit it off

03:54:11.680 and you guys are both engaging in conversation and you get along really well or you don't.

03:54:16.200 And I don't think that necessarily, like, men have to carry the conversation all the time.

03:54:20.600 Like, personally, in my experience, I'm a talker.

03:54:23.820 Like, I love to talk.

03:54:24.860 Sure.

03:54:25.120 I'm not saying it's all women, but generally speaking, I would say that most women,

03:54:30.080 if I did what most women do on a date, like, kind of be held back and silent for a bit. 0.88

03:54:39.020 Initially, if I didn't start the conversation, it would honestly just be dead silent.

03:54:44.660 If you're dating the most awkward girl ever, yeah.

03:54:46.700 No.

03:54:47.640 Most women are just, like, bad at conversation. 1.00

03:54:50.380 Totally. 0.99

03:54:50.820 You remember when we were talking about, like, you know, like, do you have to dumb yourself down, right?

03:54:55.760 Yeah.

03:54:56.000 Or remember when we were talking about, like, well, no, I think, like, men do like smart women. 1.00

03:55:01.820 Like, they'll be in relationships with women who provide absolutely nothing to a conversation. 0.99

03:55:05.960 They'll do it.

03:55:06.700 And it doesn't sound good.

03:55:08.060 And my assumption is that you guys are all in college, right?

03:55:10.120 Mm-hmm.

03:55:10.640 Yeah, you're already, like, a minority of the population.

03:55:12.780 When we're talking about very regular things that happen in dating, a lot of this stuff isn't going to stick to you,

03:55:16.500 especially, like, what was your major?

03:55:18.760 Entrepreneurship.

03:55:19.080 Yeah, that's not even a common, I don't even think that's a common thing that women major in. 1.00

03:55:23.280 Like, so you're, like, a unicorn.

03:55:24.460 A lot of what you say is not going to make sense when it comes to, like, modern dating, right?

03:55:27.760 Because you're just, you're out of the norm.

03:55:29.680 Does that make sense?

03:55:30.760 So, like, most chicks, a lot of the DMs I get, and I get them from single men who are dating all the time, day in, day out.

03:55:36.760 They just don't carry a conversation.

03:55:38.020 And the guy's kind of sitting there kind of like, well, geez, like, how do I even become engaging?

03:55:43.160 You know what I mean?

03:55:43.360 Totally.

03:55:43.800 I think that most girls are super bland because we have messages being sent out that's, like, guys don't care about smart girls. 1.00

03:55:50.780 And sure, maybe they don't.

03:55:51.860 That's different.

03:55:52.120 But women, we should still be ambitious to a point that we want to make ourselves smarter and better people and good company and fun to be around and smart, seasoned, like, I think that all plays in. 1.00

03:56:05.160 And when we're talking about IQ, you know, I don't necessarily need to make more money than you, but I still should be smart and I should know how to carry a conversation because I think that's so much more valuable than a degree or whatever.

03:56:15.440 Like, okay, I'm going to say this. 0.99

03:56:17.120 Most people are so dumb they can't carry a conversation, man and woman. 1.00

03:56:22.140 100%. 1.00

03:56:22.540 However, men are dating men that are typically smarter than them, right?

03:56:25.900 So it's, like, they're relying on him to be entertainment and that's a really boring and stressful experience for a man at the same time.

03:56:32.600 Like, boring in terms of he's not being intellectually stimulated at all and then it's stressful because he has to impress her.

03:56:39.060 So what's your point to all of this?

03:56:40.960 So my point to all this is you don't understand that you're a unicorn.

03:56:45.420 If you tell me your life story, I've heard, like, enough about you already.

03:56:48.920 You are, like, a very, very, very, very, very small percentage of women. 1.00

03:56:52.920 But when you talk about dating, you give a lot of your subjective experience and there's credit to that. 0.96

03:56:58.380 But I'm telling you, like, most women suck at conversation, which is fine because most men don't care that you're smart. 1.00

03:57:06.100 That's, like, that's great. 0.98

03:57:06.940 You just have to be, like, beautiful, sweet, and pleasant.

03:57:09.620 And there's nothing wrong with that.

03:57:10.960 You know what I mean?

03:57:11.660 You be, like, a high-charging woman. 1.00

03:57:13.720 You do that.

03:57:14.520 And you'll probably be with a high-charging man. 0.66

03:57:15.980 And that'll be, like, a super power couple thing.

03:57:17.660 But that's just not going to be what most men and women experience.

03:57:22.000 That was, like, my point. 0.97

03:57:23.540 It's just, like, I'm telling you, they suck at conversation. 0.95

03:57:26.200 Okay, yeah. 0.81

03:57:26.620 And we got that point, like, a long time ago.

03:57:28.400 That's why it's, like, kind of just, like...

03:57:29.520 I know you elaborate on every single thing you say and go and go and go.

03:57:33.080 Well, I would just imagine that I talk a lot being a podcaster, so...

03:57:35.880 Yeah.

03:57:36.420 It's kind of like...

03:57:36.960 No, I totally understand.

03:57:38.360 I totally understand.

03:57:39.640 I thought that this was Brian's podcast.

03:57:41.620 Oh, okay.

03:57:42.100 Okay, so I guess really the point I'm trying to make,

03:57:46.380 and I'm going to just try to wrap this up here soon.

03:57:48.520 So along pretty much every step of the way, the guy has to initiate.

03:57:54.940 The guy basically has to carry.

03:57:57.180 And that could manifest itself in carrying the conversations,

03:58:00.300 but the guy's going to have to...

03:58:02.340 Depends the context in which you're meeting.

03:58:05.000 But, for example, you guys say you don't really approach men, right?

03:58:09.960 I would say I approach men.

03:58:11.920 When I talk to men, I'll start conversation.

03:58:13.740 I don't typically initiate a date.

03:58:15.700 Let me ask you a question.

03:58:17.300 Have guys approached you before?

03:58:19.660 Yes.

03:58:20.580 Okay.

03:58:21.060 When the guy approaches you,

03:58:23.800 what do you...

03:58:24.520 Are you, like, immediately, like, full-on into the conversation?

03:58:29.420 Like, you're immediately contributing to the conversation 50-50

03:58:33.560 as soon as he approaches you?

03:58:34.700 No.

03:58:34.860 You're probably, like, he's going to have to do most of the talking initially.

03:58:37.900 If I find him attractive, I will be totally engaged in the conversation.

03:58:41.900 I do.

03:58:42.700 I feel like I talk a lot, like...

03:58:44.660 Really?

03:58:45.220 Yeah, like, immediately.

03:58:46.680 Bro, shut...

03:58:47.660 Oh, my God, Rin.

03:58:49.240 The reason why I'm not talking a lot right now is because, like, you know,

03:58:53.220 other people are saying more, and it's like...

03:58:55.640 I feel like I'd have nothing to add.

03:58:56.600 She talks a lot, boys.

03:58:57.680 Okay.

03:58:58.680 Allegedly.

03:58:59.080 No, like, I...

03:58:59.600 Allegedly.

03:59:00.200 If someone were to talk to me, like, immediately,

03:59:02.180 I would just jump straight into, like, straight into, like, a big convo.

03:59:05.700 All right.

03:59:06.380 Well...

03:59:07.100 And, like, yeah.

03:59:07.920 The thing about, like, the entertaining thing,

03:59:09.540 it's like, yeah, because you guys already said, like,

03:59:11.240 it's not every woman, so I was like,

03:59:12.480 there's nothing really to say.

03:59:13.200 Okay, let me ask a different question.

03:59:14.100 Who's here on dating apps?

03:59:16.900 Okay, do you message first, or does the guy message first?

03:59:21.520 Both.

03:59:22.560 Yeah.

03:59:22.820 Okay, assign a percentage.

03:59:26.920 More often than not, is it the guy messaging first?

03:59:30.060 Okay.

03:59:30.340 Like 80-20, maybe.

03:59:31.840 80-20.

03:59:32.540 Sure.

03:59:32.680 Okay, so right away, he's already caring.

03:59:35.340 So, from there, are you, like, he's probably asking you a question

03:59:39.880 or saying something witty, and then...

03:59:41.940 A lot of guys experience...

03:59:43.420 Most men's experience is girls be given one-word responses.

03:59:46.780 She's probably not that interested, granted,

03:59:49.080 but, like, that's the game that men have to play.

03:59:51.520 One-word responses.

03:59:52.820 Like...

03:59:53.820 Most of the time, I'm given very...

03:59:58.280 I'm given one-word responses for them to start the conversation.

04:00:01.160 They're saying, hey, they're not saying much,

04:00:03.360 so I have to kind of pull the...

04:00:05.340 It doesn't matter if they texted me first,

04:00:07.880 but if they're not contributing to the conversation.

04:00:10.140 But women also just... 1.00

04:00:11.160 They won't even move along the conversation.

04:00:13.300 I'll get to you in a sec.

04:00:14.000 Like, so, for example, does the guy go for the phone number?

04:00:19.860 Does the guy suggest the first date?

04:00:22.760 Sometimes they don't.

04:00:24.220 More often than not...

04:00:25.420 Go ahead.

04:00:26.260 Okay, yeah.

04:00:27.060 One time, you asked a guy out.

04:00:29.120 I understand what you're saying, because I have a brother, again.

04:00:32.180 And so, like, sorry, brother, like, if I'm going to tell a story.

04:00:36.240 But, like, he would, like, ask me.

04:00:37.840 He was like, hey, like, Rin, like...

04:00:40.060 Like, you know, like, he and his girl had, like, a date,

04:00:44.740 and then, like, he, like, asked...

04:00:46.060 He was going to pick her up, and then she was, like...

04:00:49.100 Like, he asked for her address, and she didn't say anything.

04:00:51.540 And then the next day, he said to me, he was like,

04:00:53.700 should I text her again?

04:00:55.320 And I was like, oh, like, what did you say?

04:00:56.740 Like, what happened?

04:00:57.280 And then, like, he was the last person who texted her.

04:00:59.680 And I was like, oh, I guess, like, send another, like, follow-up text.

04:01:02.300 Be like, what's your address?

04:01:04.200 And then she responded...

04:01:05.300 Like, he told me that she responded.

04:01:06.880 And then she was like, okay, yeah, like, I was only going to go

04:01:09.860 if you, like, asked me again.

04:01:10.920 And I was like, what?

04:01:13.620 So, like, it's true.

04:01:14.500 Like, they, like, kind of wait for you to, like, yeah.

04:01:17.480 Wait, the girl did this. 1.00

04:01:18.700 Yeah, so, like...

04:01:19.740 Wait, wait, can you...

04:01:20.520 I'm sorry, I was kind of blanking out.

04:01:22.740 It's a bit late.

04:01:23.340 I apologize.

04:01:24.440 Could you just repeat it again?

04:01:25.760 I'm sorry.

04:01:26.680 Yeah, so basically, like...

04:01:28.360 I'm going to dumb it down.

04:01:31.180 Yeah.

04:01:33.460 She's talking to a guy.

04:01:34.800 No, like, you know, like, they were, like, talking.

04:01:37.240 They were going on...

04:01:37.900 They were going to go on a date.

04:01:38.800 And, like, he asked for her address to pick her up

04:01:41.920 because they were planning to go at, like, 7.

04:01:44.040 And so...

04:01:44.960 But she didn't respond.

04:01:46.360 And then the next morning, like, the day of the date,

04:01:48.460 like, no one was texting.

04:01:49.620 So then, like, I had to tell him, like,

04:01:51.680 maybe she'd, like, text her again.

04:01:52.920 And then she was like...

04:01:53.900 She was like, oh, yeah, like, I was only going to, like,

04:01:55.380 send it to you, like, if you asked me again.

04:01:57.100 So, like...

04:01:58.240 Oh, no.

04:01:58.600 Like, maybe it's true.

04:01:59.500 Yeah. 1.00

04:02:00.060 Oh, fuck. 1.00

04:02:00.660 Hold on. 1.00

04:02:00.920 Sorry, guys.

04:02:02.940 Oh, wait.

04:02:04.660 So, just to be clear, let me try to recap it.

04:02:07.020 She was talking to a guy.

04:02:08.440 He asked...

04:02:09.240 They were kind of setting up a date.

04:02:10.740 They had set up a date.

04:02:11.880 He requested her address to obviously go and pick her up.

04:02:15.200 She didn't respond.

04:02:17.040 And she knew she got the text.

04:02:20.840 She was only going to provide the address if he asked again.

04:02:25.680 Yeah.

04:02:26.920 That's...

04:02:27.520 So, like, yeah, I see what you're saying.

04:02:29.860 But, yeah. 0.99

04:02:30.020 Fucking... 1.00

04:02:30.540 Yeah, that's stupid. 1.00

04:02:31.360 Toxic. 1.00

04:02:31.820 Yeah, that is stupid. 1.00

04:02:33.200 Send the asteroid boys. 1.00

04:02:34.600 Clown world.

04:02:35.320 I mean, these are the games that are being played.

04:02:37.760 So...

04:02:38.480 This is just what I wanted to say really quick.

04:02:41.120 You kept using the word carrying.

04:02:43.060 The guy is, you know, carrying because he has to message you first.

04:02:47.400 He's carrying because he has to ask for... 0.69

04:02:48.980 Guys have to do everything.

04:02:51.060 Everything.

04:02:51.520 Oh, my gosh.

04:02:51.800 Men have to do everything. 0.97

04:02:52.600 Like, so taxing.

04:02:54.220 He has to move his thumb so much.

04:02:56.580 No, no, no, no, no, no.

04:02:57.520 It's more than that.

04:02:58.420 But I'll...

04:02:58.960 Go ahead.

04:02:59.460 But that's kind of what you're alluding to.

04:03:01.240 If a guy won't message me first, if a guy wouldn't ask for my number, if a guy wouldn't,

04:03:07.740 like, suggest the first date because, oh, it's too hard, it's too taxing, I'm obviously

04:03:12.480 not worth it to him and he's obviously not worth it to me.

04:03:14.960 And you keep using this word carrying as if it's so much.

04:03:18.680 If he won't message you first, he's not going to be...

04:03:21.200 Like, what makes you think he's going to be a provider for you?

04:03:24.080 Well, there's a lot more to it than that.

04:03:27.140 And by the way, men enjoy feeling appreciated.

04:03:31.700 Even a drop of you showing some mutual effort or initiative, most men will find that appealing. 0.98

04:03:41.140 Certainly, there are some, like, very masculine men that, like, no, I have to do fucking everything. 0.98

04:03:45.080 And, like, if the girl even initiates a little bit, then whatever. 0.96

04:03:48.820 But, like, most men will genuinely appreciate you showing even a modicum of effort. 0.55

04:03:56.380 When I say carrying, so carrying, not to get fucking nerdy, like, I mean, there's... 0.55

04:04:02.380 Carrying is a video game term. 0.98

04:04:04.440 Basically, to carry someone in a video game is you are basically, they're doing jack shit 0.90

04:04:10.800 and you are basically, you're killing all the enemies and they're just sitting back.

04:04:15.800 Yeah, yeah, I've played team sports.

04:04:16.900 I understand what carrying means.

04:04:18.300 Right, so in the same way that there's, like, group projects...

04:04:20.360 But I thought we said men want to lead.

04:04:23.440 They do.

04:04:24.500 They do.

04:04:25.300 But it's a burden.

04:04:26.900 It's a burden.

04:04:27.760 And also, a lot of men want some degree of reciprocity.

04:04:32.720 You would be surprised if you showed the same amount of effort that men put in.

04:04:38.040 A lot of men would really appreciate that.

04:04:40.180 And a lot of women make zero effort. 1.00

04:04:42.720 But you say, oh, he's just moving his thumbs.

04:04:46.180 There is, like, men face rejection in ways that women don't. 0.87

04:04:50.260 We have to make the initial approach.

04:04:52.540 We're going to kind of carry that initial conversation.

04:04:55.760 We're going to ask for the number.

04:04:56.880 We're going to set the date.

04:04:57.860 We're going to set the time.

04:04:58.780 We're going to follow up.

04:04:59.960 If you flake, by the way, most chicks flake on dates. 1.00

04:05:03.120 And they're not going to give you 24 hours notice.

04:05:05.100 You have a date on a Friday night.

04:05:06.840 They're going to flake three hours before.

04:05:09.820 And then it's very easy.

04:05:11.400 You've done it, right?

04:05:12.460 It's very easy for women to get another date like that. 1.00

04:05:16.100 Most men, most guys, if you flake on them on a Friday, you've just scorched their Friday.

04:05:22.880 They're not going to find a replacement.

04:05:24.260 I mean, I've also been canceled on. 0.99

04:05:25.920 It's so shitty. 0.99

04:05:26.920 Men don't really flake at the same rate that women do. 1.00

04:05:30.100 I'll say that. 0.99

04:05:30.840 Women are incredibly flaky. 1.00

04:05:32.440 In fact, I didn't bring this up. 0.98

04:05:33.880 Nine girls flaked tonight. 1.00

04:05:35.700 So if I've been a bit of a dickhead tonight, I have not been in a good mood.

04:05:39.420 Nine or maybe it was like, excuse me, eight women were going to be on the show. 1.00

04:05:43.320 Obviously, I found some last minute replacements.

04:05:45.880 Eight women canceled. 1.00

04:05:47.140 Like, okay.

04:05:49.360 And imagine that in the dating world.

04:05:51.180 And I've had a lot of experience with that.

04:05:53.140 Women will flake. 1.00

04:05:53.780 Like, and I'm not talking, I'm not even, professional women, 30-year-old women who are professional 0.99

04:05:59.960 women will literally, oh, some bullshit excuse will flake an hour, two hours, three hours 1.00

04:06:06.600 before the date over the dumbest fucking reason. 1.00

04:06:10.700 Women are fickle and flaky, generally speaking. 1.00

04:06:13.900 It happens all the time. 0.98

04:06:15.460 I say this from experience.

04:06:16.560 They flake.

04:06:17.240 So I have a question.

04:06:18.820 You know, you get flaked on by this woman. 1.00

04:06:20.880 I'd be, I'd be annoyed.

04:06:21.980 I'd be pissed.

04:06:22.560 You know, someone, you know, caused me to commit to them for that night, whatever.

04:06:26.060 And then they flaked on me. 0.95

04:06:27.720 My initial reaction is like, okay, that's really shitty. 0.67

04:06:30.600 But then I'm like, you know what? 0.98

04:06:32.020 I'm glad I'm not going out with this person because they're, they're a flaky person and

04:06:36.440 I don't want to go out with them anyways.

04:06:37.900 I'm glad that they, they, you know, avoided wasting my time more than they already have.

04:06:43.320 It's, it's a favor.

04:06:44.740 I mean, it's, it's a favor kind of.

04:06:46.860 Perhaps.

04:06:47.420 I mean, but what if it could have otherwise worked out?

04:06:50.160 Sometimes the girl just gets cold feet. 0.99

04:06:52.140 Yeah.

04:06:52.420 A lot of times girls get kind of cold feet and, you know, so it could have otherwise

04:06:56.360 worked out.

04:06:56.960 And then also it's just like, it doesn't undo the fact that my Friday night that I could

04:07:01.680 have planned with someone else is just scorched. 0.99

04:07:04.120 Women, you guys, any of you could probably download Tinder tonight and fuck a dude tonight. 1.00

04:07:09.560 Almost no dudes can pull that off. 1.00

04:07:12.380 So, uh, to, to bring it back to carrying though, you mentioned, oh, it's just, it's just texting

04:07:18.940 every single step along the way, men have to do it.

04:07:23.180 So asking for the date, getting the number, planning the date, showing up to the date,

04:07:28.020 opening car doors, carrying the conversation on the date, uh, paying for the date, trying

04:07:33.240 to move it forward on the first date.

04:07:35.540 If he can move it forward, Hey, let's go back to my place.

04:07:38.000 That's a move he has to make.

04:07:39.140 Most girls aren't going to say, yo, let's go back to your place. 1.00

04:07:42.240 The guy's going to have to take the initiative there.

04:07:44.260 Right.

04:07:44.440 Keep in mind that each of these incremental steps, that's another opportunity for rejection.

04:07:49.020 Uh, so there's always men have like hundreds of steps along the way from getting you from

04:07:56.160 getting, just meeting you to a relationship.

04:07:59.660 Totally tons of, uh, rejection points that really don't exist in women because they don't 1.00

04:08:04.880 really make the move like that.

04:08:06.200 So, okay, let's say you go back to his place, then he's going to have to move things forward

04:08:09.800 physically.

04:08:11.320 How's that going to play out?

04:08:12.500 He's definitely going to have to go for the first kiss.

04:08:14.660 Most women don't go for the first kiss. 1.00

04:08:16.460 Then he's going to, okay, how's he going to, you know, there's a lot of logistical things

04:08:20.440 that men think about that women don't really.

04:08:23.060 Okay.

04:08:23.380 I, I, so in my experience, I, I think about it like, sure.

04:08:28.400 It's not just that the man is thinking about it.

04:08:30.600 Women are also thinking about it. 0.99

04:08:32.000 We're thoughtful creatures.

04:08:33.340 Maybe the man does have to do it.

04:08:34.800 But what the point I want to make is thinking about wanting, you have to, you have to take

04:08:38.360 all these steps.

04:08:38.940 You have to do this.

04:08:39.680 You have to do that.

04:08:40.220 You have to do this.

04:08:41.020 How, you know, men value femininity.

04:08:44.040 How feminine would it be if, if I was, you know, making all these steps and doing all,

04:08:49.100 Oh, let's go back to my place.

04:08:50.360 Like that wouldn't be so feminine. 0.90

04:08:52.160 So what do you want from us?

04:08:53.840 That's the question.

04:08:54.780 I understand you want, you know, reciprocation and conversation.

04:08:57.600 I'm there.

04:08:58.360 I do that.

04:08:58.980 That's all I can do.

04:09:00.320 But you know, I, I, I want to be more feminine because I understand I can be masculine and

04:09:06.300 I can do that on my own and I'm trying to work on that.

04:09:09.080 So what do you want?

04:09:10.360 I think like, I think it just is that women don't care how hard men have to work to garner 1.00

04:09:18.020 our attention, to garner relationships with us.

04:09:20.600 I think at the end of the day, like, we just don't care.

04:09:22.360 Are you going to do it or not?

04:09:23.420 Right.

04:09:23.760 And I think that that is something that people are just unwilling to admit.

04:09:27.140 And I mean, it's, it's completely okay to say out loud, like, I don't care how hard

04:09:30.700 he worked for this is just, did you complete the mission or not?

04:09:33.420 That's like our perspective as women. 1.00

04:09:34.620 We can't really empathize with men.

04:09:36.120 And that's why men need to be talking to other men about how to approach relationships with

04:09:39.880 women. 0.81

04:09:40.400 Like, what are you, what are you really going to learn from a woman about like, you know what 1.00

04:09:43.120 I mean?

04:09:43.480 I mean, we're just like, we don't even really know.

04:09:45.920 We're just, did it work or did it not?

04:09:47.900 Right.

04:09:49.280 I think that's okay.

04:09:50.480 So yes, you make a good point.

04:09:51.800 Like if a girl was perhaps really overt in these ways, we might deem it to be more masculine.

04:09:57.460 And yes, so I guess what I'm trying to say is it's not so much that we're necessarily

04:10:02.040 like, it's not so much that we necessarily, well, first off, we can't, we can't expect women 1.00

04:10:08.880 to take, to make the first move because frankly they don't, if I waited, if, if every girl 0.96

04:10:14.300 that I've ever kissed, I waited for her to make the kiss, to do the first kiss, it would 0.63

04:10:20.020 have never happened. 1.00

04:10:20.720 And she would have either been like, this guy's a pussy. 1.00

04:10:23.020 Yeah. 1.00

04:10:23.400 Why is he not going for it?

04:10:24.800 She would have lost interest because why is he not making the first move?

04:10:29.700 Or it would have, honestly, she would have finally made the move.

04:10:33.560 Yeah.

04:10:33.960 Or three, four dates down the line, more likely than not though, if I, if I didn't make the

04:10:39.160 move, she would have just lost interest. 0.96

04:10:40.860 Be like, he's just not interested or he's a coward. 0.59

04:10:44.620 I'm, she's going to lose attraction.

04:10:46.460 So it's not so much like, Hey, you need to be a mirror image of ourselves, but I'm just

04:10:52.160 trying to articulate men carry, we carry.

04:10:57.940 Yeah.

04:10:58.660 Yeah.

04:10:58.960 And, and, and, and just, and I think this is, you know, I thought you wanted to.

04:11:03.960 And I thought women should be submissive to be in a healthy relationship that works 1.00

04:11:09.320 properly.

04:11:09.740 And I mean, that doesn't really need to be answered because I understand life's not

04:11:15.140 perfect and, and there's good parts to being a man.

04:11:18.000 There's negative parts to being a man and the same with women. 1.00

04:11:20.140 But I just, I think that that's a little unfair to say like, Oh, well, women don't do 1.00

04:11:24.320 anything to create a relationship.

04:11:26.560 When we do, we're called forward and masculine and unfeminine.

04:11:30.720 And I think, I mean, I certainly think that there's a way that you can go about it in

04:11:36.680 a feminine way. 1.00

04:11:39.160 So, I mean, you can make these sort of moves in feminine ways. 1.00

04:11:43.580 Yeah.

04:11:43.880 Yeah.

04:11:44.160 I mean, it's called, it's like feminine assertion. 0.99

04:11:46.740 There's a lot of women, a lot of women suck at game. 1.00

04:11:48.640 That's why your best bet is to just be like pretty polite and sweet, you know, and caring. 0.98

04:11:53.240 Like, we're just not that good at it these days because we have to appeal to the small

04:11:57.740 pool of men that we've never really had to compete with before.

04:12:00.560 So, um, like I made the first move with my husband.

04:12:03.900 I kissed him first, but I immediately let him lead, you know?

04:12:07.400 So you're talking about feminine assertion, but that's not a concept most women are going 1.00

04:12:11.140 to get or even.

04:12:12.980 I think they should.

04:12:13.940 So let's talk about it.

04:12:14.960 Teach us.

04:12:15.620 Well, I, like I've been trying to teach you guys all night and honestly, you guys have just

04:12:19.600 been incredibly rude, like in many ways, like I'm not from Cali, you know, I'm from the

04:12:23.960 Midwest.

04:12:24.420 I also come from a Latin background.

04:12:26.240 I've been trying to be helpful.

04:12:27.920 I prefaced all of this.

04:12:29.300 I'm pregnant with a daughter.

04:12:30.360 I care about women. 0.97

04:12:31.840 Right.

04:12:32.660 But when I tell you guys things, it's always, well, my experience, or I know somebody like

04:12:37.240 this, or this has been different for me.

04:12:39.120 So like you want me to teach you guys, but you're not very receptive.

04:12:42.880 I understand.

04:12:43.840 The question is just then why are we on a podcast?

04:12:46.480 I want you to have a masterclass.

04:12:47.780 I'd listen to it.

04:12:48.560 But if we're here to have a conversation, I'd like to add to the conversation.

04:12:52.240 So, so there's adding and then there's being snarky.

04:12:54.300 There's a big difference.

04:12:55.460 I think that that's also something that you're guilty of as well.

04:12:58.920 Would everyone agree with me here that Allie has also been snarky from the get?

04:13:04.340 Have I been snarky?

04:13:05.400 I think I've been a little snarky a couple of times.

04:13:07.180 I said this at the beginning.

04:13:08.380 So have I.

04:13:08.600 It's a podcast.

04:13:09.420 I said this at the beginning.

04:13:10.560 Like there's, there's being disagreeable and then there's just being rude.

04:13:15.060 Right.

04:13:15.460 And it's just, I don't know what it is with like this place, California.

04:13:20.600 I have no idea.

04:13:21.740 This is like not how people have civilized conversations with one another.

04:13:25.720 Right.

04:13:26.100 You will see me get like frustrated and a little bit assertive.

04:13:28.560 And it's because like I am a woman and I can tell when you're being rude to me.

04:13:32.740 Brian might not see it.

04:13:33.740 Brian might not get it, but I can because I'm a girl.

04:13:36.340 Okay.

04:13:36.660 So can I.

04:13:37.560 And so can all of we.

04:13:38.920 Yeah.

04:13:39.100 And that's why I think there's like obvious.

04:13:40.760 There's been implications.

04:13:41.620 I was talking.

04:13:42.240 Okay.

04:13:42.380 So you're talking over everybody else.

04:13:43.920 Yeah.

04:13:44.060 It feels like a lecture.

04:13:45.120 You know what I mean?

04:13:45.540 A little.

04:13:46.020 Like I'm not here to be taught.

04:13:47.360 I understand that you're trying to like give your two cents and I'm always open to listen

04:13:51.380 and I'm open for constructive criticism, but you're here like pointing fingers and it's 1.00

04:13:56.060 like go fuck yourself. 1.00

04:13:58.000 Right. 1.00

04:13:58.240 You're going to point fingers, you know?

04:13:59.600 I've just been throwing out like numbers and stuff like that.

04:14:01.520 I know.

04:14:01.880 I just.

04:14:02.420 You guys just don't like it.

04:14:03.060 Back to my original statement.

04:14:04.480 We're on a podcast.

04:14:05.500 We're here to talk and share our experience and what we have to share.

04:14:09.640 So again, if you had a masterclass, I would totally listen to that.

04:14:13.020 Now I know who you are.

04:14:13.760 I'm going to subscribe to your YouTube.

04:14:15.020 I'd love to hear what you have to say, but what would you like us to say? 0.99

04:14:17.860 You know, I don't want to sit here and just shit on women. 1.00

04:14:20.300 Oh no, they don't do this. 1.00

04:14:21.220 And no, they don't do that. 0.99

04:14:22.360 Like, no, that was me shitting. 0.95

04:14:23.580 I know, but there's just, there's some hope for the world and it did not, you know, I 0.94

04:14:28.080 said, this is the first thing I said to you as it felt condescending.

04:14:31.140 I so respect you and I think you're super smart.

04:14:33.600 I want to hear you.

04:14:34.740 So, but it doesn't feel like we're having a conversation. 0.98

04:14:37.520 It feels like you're talking at women and about women and it's like, damn, like I agree 1.00

04:14:41.660 and all I can do is be a better person and act better and I feel I have. 0.94

04:14:46.140 So I didn't want it to feel like a lecture.

04:14:48.000 I wanted it to be a civil, cordial conversation.

04:14:51.300 Right.

04:14:51.380 And I think we're also allowed to talk about our personal experiences.

04:14:54.400 We don't have to be talking about a general topic the entire time.

04:14:58.600 Yeah.

04:14:58.960 You know what I mean?

04:14:59.600 Dustin's 1091 donated $100.

04:15:02.880 Brian, just invite me on the podcast.

04:15:05.740 I wouldn't flake.

04:15:06.320 Thank you.

04:15:07.060 Thank you.

04:15:07.780 Yeah.

04:15:08.820 Really quick.

04:15:09.620 I just, if I've been, I've been a little, I don't know, I've been a little spicy tonight.

04:15:14.360 So we did have eight flakes.

04:15:18.120 It was a nightmare coordinating this before the show.

04:15:21.420 So hold on a minute.

04:15:26.380 Hold on.

04:15:27.280 I'd like to take this chance to apologize to absolutely nobody.

04:15:32.200 No, but yeah.

04:15:33.360 Anyways, go ahead, Allie.

04:15:34.100 So it's like, here's the thing is I've like made objective points, right?

04:15:38.700 And I say these things and I give you the numbers again, happy to give them to you guys

04:15:43.040 after the fact.

04:15:43.860 And I make these broad conclusions about how dating is going for most women and sometimes 0.69

04:15:48.220 for most men.

04:15:49.380 But I've mentioned things about IQ and then you turned around and flipped it and said,

04:15:54.200 should we dumb ourselves down?

04:15:56.460 I didn't say that.

04:15:58.120 That's what I mean.

04:15:58.880 Like me giving data and statistics, it might be boring and maybe, honestly, maybe it's like

04:16:03.760 not particularly fun, but it's not a knock on you guys.

04:16:07.800 These are just things that are, I'm not trying to knock anybody, but a lot of the times when

04:16:12.000 I give women facts, they emotionalize it and personalize it. 1.00

04:16:15.520 And I think that that's how we communicate, but I can't get the truth out there to women 1.00

04:16:19.500 if I alter it so that they can hear it completely.

04:16:22.240 And I've actually altered my language like quite a bit.

04:16:24.440 You know what I mean?

04:16:25.200 Yeah.

04:16:25.400 Um, so I think that's, that's really just, uh, that I think that's really just what's

04:16:30.860 going on is like, I would just take what I say at face value.

04:16:33.960 You know, if I, if I was wanting to be like mean or a brat, it would be a lot different.

04:16:37.780 Like I add homonyms, like that's what would happen.

04:16:40.520 You know, I'd be calling you names.

04:16:41.820 You see what I'm saying?

04:16:42.840 But if I'm just saying something, it can be jarring.

04:16:45.820 I get that.

04:16:46.880 But can we just look past that at the words that I'm articulating?

04:16:51.340 Sophia, will you marry me?

04:16:52.520 Wait, hide this here.

04:16:59.800 What?

04:17:00.180 Will you marry me, Sophia?

04:17:01.740 Can I see the ring?

04:17:03.080 You want to inspect the ring before?

04:17:06.540 Yeah.

04:17:07.120 He's not paying for your first date.

04:17:08.940 Don't even consider.

04:17:09.620 You know what?

04:17:10.560 I might actually pay for Sophia on the first date.

04:17:13.580 It's a nice rock.

04:17:20.660 I don't like silver.

04:17:24.680 Are you silver, really?

04:17:26.440 Silver, I'm a gold one.

04:17:27.680 I like gold.

04:17:28.320 Yeah.

04:17:29.320 Yeah.

04:17:29.920 You're either silver or you're gold.

04:17:31.900 You're going to, you're rejecting the marriage proposal?

04:17:35.260 Wow.

04:17:35.900 Hurt.

04:17:36.940 Sorry.

04:17:37.760 You didn't even ask her on a date first.

04:17:39.960 Yeah.

04:17:40.400 Buy me dinner first.

04:17:41.280 You're in and out after the show?

04:17:46.180 I think he's serious.

04:17:49.260 Rin? 0.98

04:17:51.340 Rin? 0.98

04:17:52.860 Well, may I have your hand in holy matrimony? 0.99

04:17:55.800 She's not in sloppy seconds. 0.99

04:17:58.360 Well, you, you, you rebuffed, you rebuffed my.

04:18:01.840 My little woman.

04:18:04.780 You rebuffed my marriage proposal.

04:18:06.640 Yeah.

04:18:09.360 Confirm?

04:18:10.060 Deny?

04:18:11.260 Okay.

04:18:11.900 Let me get these last two super chats.

04:18:13.420 We have one video to react to and then we're going to wrap.

04:18:15.840 Mike Davis, 50.

04:18:17.120 Thank you, man.

04:18:18.200 I'm going to, Stella, I'm going to have you read this one.

04:18:20.980 What's good, Ginger?

04:18:22.820 She got spice and needs a man to match her energy. 1.00

04:18:27.420 How about you ditch Dylan and get with a villain? 0.98

04:18:31.120 Drop the wimp, get with a pimp. 0.99

04:18:32.960 I can make you a whole lot more wet than your firefighter boy. 0.99

04:18:38.020 If you say no, you a hoe. 1.00

04:18:41.140 Wow.

04:18:41.460 I guess I'm a hoe.

04:18:43.420 No.

04:18:45.140 Thank you.

04:18:45.880 Okay.

04:18:46.040 Mike Davis.

04:18:46.240 That was very kind, actually.

04:18:47.320 Does it change anything?

04:18:48.500 He owns like 30 Burger Kings in North Carolina.

04:18:54.740 I.

04:18:55.340 Doesn't change anything?

04:18:56.120 North Carolina.

04:18:56.620 Yeah.

04:18:56.920 30 Burger Kings.

04:18:57.920 First of all.

04:18:58.400 Does that change anything?

04:18:59.260 No, my boyfriend is better than you.

04:19:00.940 Oh.

04:19:01.960 Sorry, Mike Davis.

04:19:03.720 Sorry, Mike.

04:19:04.700 We have Laboid.

04:19:06.480 Thank you for the 50.

04:19:07.940 Rin, do us the favors.

04:19:10.340 These girls are not the typical girls I see on the podcast, especially at their age.

04:19:13.900 They actually agree with most of what you're saying.

04:19:15.600 A lot of the arguments that apply to most women haven't applied to them. 1.00

04:19:18.320 Great panel.

04:19:19.040 Awesome podcast for sure.

04:19:20.460 Wholesome.

04:19:21.020 Wholesome.

04:19:21.440 He was really kind.

04:19:22.280 There we go.

04:19:22.700 That was a nice one.

04:19:24.380 I know, right?

04:19:26.440 Sophia, go for it.

04:19:29.200 Do you want me to?

04:19:29.820 Oh.

04:19:30.160 Yeah.

04:19:30.660 Bro, this panel is not listening.

04:19:32.300 Take things personally and move goalposts like pros.

04:19:35.540 Nobody is talking about you personally, Brian and Allie.

04:19:38.320 Or Brian and Allie are taking stats and all of you instantly get defensive.

04:19:42.520 Okay.

04:19:43.000 Dimple, thank you for that $50 soup chat.

04:19:44.940 Okay.

04:19:45.200 Last thing here.

04:19:45.980 We're going to react to the last video, then we're going to wrap.

04:19:47.940 Eric, can you pull up that video?

04:19:50.020 Oh, do we have one?

04:19:50.500 Let me just do this one.

04:19:52.180 Yo, Hector Delgado, 50.

04:19:53.720 Sophia, why don't you read this one?

04:19:55.700 Oh, my God.

04:19:56.640 Sophia's the most gorgeous girl on all the panel you've had.

04:19:59.560 Thank you.

04:20:00.340 Bring her again, and please, Sophia, don't make an OnlyFans. 0.87

04:20:03.320 Is it in the works?

04:20:04.540 Definitely not.

04:20:05.440 Is it in the works?

04:20:06.140 Never.

04:20:06.340 I wanted to hear more about, well, perhaps if you're down for round two, I wanted to hear

04:20:09.480 more about your thoughts on fuckboys and you being very single, but alas, we had quite

04:20:18.400 an interesting back and forth conversation. 0.84

04:20:21.960 So, thank you, Hector, there for the 50.

04:20:25.020 Thank you, Nick, there for the 20.

04:20:26.660 All right, Eric, go ahead and pull up.

04:20:28.880 By the way, thank you to everyone.

04:20:30.220 Oh, wait.

04:20:30.760 Oh, this one, it'll come up.

04:20:34.720 Just wait until it comes up in the stream yard.

04:20:36.820 By the way, thank you to everyone who became members.

04:20:38.660 Eric, did you, you pulled up when people like became members, yeah?

04:20:42.020 Eric, he watches Tucker Carlson.

04:20:43.340 Okay, perfect.

04:20:43.840 I remember my million times when he was listening.

04:20:46.600 Did, uh...

04:20:47.280 I do listen to Tucker Carlson for whoever said that.

04:20:50.280 Yo, Mike Davis, thank you to the 50.

04:20:52.380 Never ask a woman for dating advice. 1.00

04:20:55.600 As the saying goes, you don't ask the fish how to catch fish.

04:20:58.780 You ask the fisherman.

04:20:59.960 Question for Allie, if you married for love, what you gonna do when the old geezer kicks 1.00

04:21:06.060 the bucket?

04:21:07.740 Allie, your response to Mike Davis.

04:21:10.040 I mean, I don't know if, like, the goal is to get a rise out of me, right?

04:21:13.140 Because if my husband died, I would mourn his death like a normal human being because

04:21:17.840 I do love him.

04:21:18.780 So that's what I would do.

04:21:19.760 I would mourn his death.

04:21:20.640 Also, my husband is a forward-projecting man who takes excellent care of me, so there

04:21:24.300 will be a life insurance policy.

04:21:26.580 I don't know.

04:21:27.280 I can't give you a better answer than that, and I'm sure that my husband is probably

04:21:32.560 much more skilled than you in many metrics.

04:21:35.160 So this does not, like, what can I say?

04:21:39.000 This is a $49.99 super chat about my husband dying.

04:21:41.820 Why?

04:21:41.980 Because he's older?

04:21:42.700 Are you mad you can't marry a 28-year-old?

04:21:44.800 Are you mad?

04:21:45.520 You can't get one.

04:21:46.800 Hmm.

04:21:47.460 Interesting.

04:21:48.340 Oh, Allie with the heat.

04:21:50.220 By the way, Mike Davis is our resident roaster.

04:21:54.000 So, yeah.

04:21:56.100 Does it, like, does him owning Burger Kings change anything?

04:22:00.920 No.

04:22:01.440 Like, even if he owns Burger Kings, he just sent a $49.99 donation to the platform, right?

04:22:06.460 Mr. I own Burger Kings.

04:22:08.120 That's so awesome.

04:22:09.220 Talking about my older husband dying.

04:22:11.680 We actually have a photo.

04:22:13.120 Can you hide that?

04:22:14.860 We have a photo of him and his Burger King in one of his establishments.

04:22:19.400 Wait, let me see him.

04:22:20.220 That's great.

04:22:20.740 You know who he looks like?

04:22:22.700 You got to look at it in the...

04:22:24.540 You know who he looks like?

04:22:25.560 Yeah, who does he look like?

04:22:27.000 The famous actor.

04:22:27.900 He's in White Chicks. 1.00

04:22:29.760 You know who I'm talking about.

04:22:31.180 Reese Witherspoon?

04:22:32.380 Terry Crews.

04:22:33.100 He was in...

04:22:33.880 She was not in White Chicks. 0.99

04:22:34.900 Oh, okay.

04:22:35.780 No, what's Terry Crews?

04:22:37.820 That guy looks like Terry Crews?

04:22:39.340 Yeah, you have, like, Terry Crews vibes, too.

04:22:40.960 Eric, can you pull up the video?

04:22:51.060 Start from the beginning, if you can.

04:22:52.460 Just pull it back a little bit.

04:22:55.560 Women have dating on easy mode. 1.00

04:22:57.380 You guys have that show on easy mode.

04:22:58.540 Okay, like, maybe, like, a woman can have, like, really easily, but to actually date and

04:23:02.680 to find a man that's going to commit to you and do all those things is extremely hard.

04:23:06.500 Versus if you're a good man, and, like, the standards for a good man are the bare minimum,

04:23:11.840 you could find a girlfriend like that. 1.00

04:23:13.840 Yeah.

04:23:14.160 For a woman to find a boyfriend, it's like, oh my god. 1.00

04:23:17.940 I mean, I don't think it...

04:23:18.540 If you're, like, a guy, like, you have a little bit of game, right?

04:23:22.420 Like, you get a girl on a date, like, girls are so easy to please. 0.87

04:23:26.160 Like, just to be nice.

04:23:26.960 Girls are... 1.00

04:23:27.660 Women are easy to please. 1.00

04:23:28.860 Like, if you're just nice and, like, buy dinner, like, I feel like you're good to go,

04:23:33.780 like, as a guy.

04:23:34.740 And, like, if she likes you, if she likes you, then it's, like, that's one caveat.

04:23:38.240 Just buy dinner.

04:23:39.360 That's it, guys.

04:23:40.080 All you gotta do is buy dinner and be nice.

04:23:41.440 Yeah, the one...

04:23:42.060 You need a lot more than that.

04:23:43.020 It's because girls say what they want is a guy to, like, bring her flowers, like, do all 1.00

04:23:48.300 this stuff for her, but I swear, when a guy does that to a girl, she won't... 1.00

04:23:52.740 She, like, might very well, like, might be, like, turned off from it.

04:23:56.140 All right.

04:23:57.280 Agree, disagree.

04:23:58.260 What do you guys think?

04:23:59.920 Let's start with Rin.

04:24:00.800 Rin.

04:24:00.860 Rin.

04:24:00.920 Rin.

04:24:00.940 Rin.

04:24:08.240 Um, it's just, like, it's just, like, again, the conversation about, like, oh, men and women,

04:24:15.220 like, they're all so different.

04:24:16.140 Like, I don't, I don't know.

04:24:17.060 I don't have any, like, thoughts, like...

04:24:19.100 Okay, so she said, she said, let me prompt it a little bit.

04:24:22.540 She said that as a guy, if you're a good guy and you're just nice and you buy dinner,

04:24:29.080 you can get a girlfriend like that. 1.00

04:24:32.460 Agree or disagree?

04:24:34.140 I actually agree with that.

04:24:38.240 Sophia?

04:24:38.740 If you meet the girl's standards, yes, and you're, you're nice.

04:24:42.100 But she's saying, like, that's as if she's, like, the standards are so low for men.

04:24:47.580 Are you gonna, I mean, I, I think you need, I don't know, you need to have a good personality

04:24:56.280 on top of that.

04:24:57.100 You need to, you can't, I don't know, just because you buy me dinner doesn't mean I'm

04:25:00.900 automatically gonna date you.

04:25:02.700 Right.

04:25:03.160 Or just because you're nice.

04:25:04.320 You can be nice.

04:25:05.020 I don't have to, I'm not interested in every nice guy, you know what I mean?

04:25:08.820 But she's saying it's really easy for guys to get girlfriends.

04:25:11.740 Yeah.

04:25:11.980 I'm just, I think she was saying that there's not very many things that you need to do to

04:25:16.240 impress girls.

04:25:16.940 Like, what she's saying, you, she, um, a guy's opening a door for her, is that very

04:25:22.860 hard?

04:25:23.220 It impressed her.

04:25:24.280 Right, but that's not the only thing.

04:25:26.020 So I, I actually, I totally disagree with this TikTok girl.

04:25:29.760 Um, I think that, uh, uh, woman of high value, it's, it takes a lot more than just going 1.00

04:25:36.860 to dinner.

04:25:37.240 It takes, it takes everything for me to like really want to be with a person and spend time

04:25:41.920 with them and call you my boyfriend.

04:25:43.420 I have to really like you.

04:25:44.760 And that has to be for several reasons.

04:25:46.380 So no, you're not going to get a girlfriend just because you buy them dinner.

04:25:49.040 But, but she's saying it's easy for guys to just get a girlfriend.

04:25:52.700 Yeah, I totally disagree.

04:25:53.800 Okay.

04:25:55.140 Stella, any thoughts?

04:25:56.000 Uh, I'm confused.

04:25:58.500 Am I elaborating on like the, some guys will get a girl with flowers and she won't care

04:26:03.300 that'll gross her out or? 0.96

04:26:04.920 No, the main, the main thing is, is she says, whereas it's very easy for, it's maybe hard 0.98

04:26:12.120 for men to get sex or it's easy for women to get sex. 0.96

04:26:15.020 It's hard for women to get a boyfriend. 1.00

04:26:18.280 It's easy for guys to get a girlfriend.

04:26:21.980 All they have to do is be nice.

04:26:24.060 Nice guys never win.

04:26:26.000 Well, that's true.

04:26:27.580 You know, so I don't think so.

04:26:29.520 Nice guys finish last.

04:26:30.760 Yeah.

04:26:31.000 Nice guys finish.

04:26:31.820 That's what I was going for.

04:26:32.680 Nice guys finish last.

04:26:33.760 And that's like a hard truth.

04:26:34.760 Cause of course I'm over here.

04:26:35.740 Oh, I want a nice guy, but then someone's too nice.

04:26:37.840 And I'm like, yeah, you know, so no.

04:26:42.820 I disagree also.

04:26:44.580 Disagree with her.

04:26:45.560 Okay.

04:26:46.040 So agree and agree.

04:26:49.280 You two, you two agree.

04:26:51.220 Easy.

04:26:51.620 It's easy for guys to get a girlfriend.

04:26:55.400 Yeah.

04:26:55.640 I just think girls are so like, like down to like love somebody. 1.00

04:27:00.240 You know what I mean?

04:27:01.520 I agree with that.

04:27:02.660 Wait, Eric, can you pull up the, uh, that, that cartoon, the comic photo it's related to

04:27:07.560 this, so this is, I mean, this is kind of the encapsulation.

04:27:15.500 I think in the dating marketplace, she doesn't want any of those ones. 1.00

04:27:18.440 She wants the one that doesn't want her, but here's how the guy one looks.

04:27:22.200 The guy is sitting there saying, I'm so lonely and there's nobody at the door.

04:27:26.940 That's the difference between men and women. 1.00

04:27:29.520 Most men are like invisible to you guys. 1.00

04:27:33.500 They should become gay. 1.00

04:27:35.680 That's a, I'm just kidding. 0.99

04:27:37.900 I don't know what you want me to answer that.

04:27:39.800 But, uh, okay.

04:27:41.000 So easy for a guy to get a girlfriend.

04:27:45.360 If they're, I don't know.

04:27:47.420 No, I'm just, I'm, I'm asking, I just to clarify you.

04:27:49.700 That's what you said before, right?

04:27:51.080 You said, but you said before that it's easy for a guy to get a girlfriend.

04:27:53.860 Yes.

04:27:54.080 I'm not saying like the bare minimum, like gets you, I mean, like, I don't know.

04:28:01.440 You just rejected my marriage proposal, by the way.

04:28:04.200 So clearly, you should have said yes.

04:28:07.120 Are you shipping?

04:28:07.780 Would you marry him?

04:28:08.820 Are you shipping?

04:28:09.840 I kind of am, Sophia.

04:28:11.420 Wait. 1.00

04:28:11.780 Oh shit. 1.00

04:28:12.960 Would you take her on a date? 1.00

04:28:14.480 She's my friend.

04:28:15.640 I, yeah, she's cute. 1.00

04:28:16.440 Are you going to pay?

04:28:17.420 I would pay for Sophia.

04:28:18.680 Would you open her door?

04:28:20.300 And one thing on the, would you open her door?

04:28:22.260 One thing on the providing thing that I just want to add to this, like I'm making enough

04:28:26.500 money that like my partner, like I prepared to provide for her.

04:28:29.820 Like I can provide for everything.

04:28:31.720 She doesn't have to work.

04:28:32.900 But would you be interested in an unemployed woman who's, well, I guess, okay. 0.99

04:28:37.460 She's not a student and unemployed.

04:28:39.860 She's not a student and not employed.

04:28:42.180 She kind of does nothing, but she's real cute. 1.00

04:28:46.100 Unambitious.

04:28:46.660 Doesn't add anything to the table, but super fertile. 1.00

04:28:49.900 Fertile.

04:28:50.260 Super fertile.

04:28:51.240 Oh, wait, wait, I'm sorry.

04:28:52.160 You didn't want kids. 0.96

04:28:53.060 I'm sorry.

04:28:53.540 I'm not sure if I'm trying to have kids at this moment, but it's, again, it's not like

04:28:59.980 if a girl is ambitious or she's successful, it's not a deal breaker for me.

04:29:03.640 Oh, okay.

04:29:03.960 I'm not saying like I necessarily want a girl that's just sitting around the house like 1.00

04:29:07.280 doing nothing.

04:29:08.440 Yeah.

04:29:08.840 But it wouldn't necessarily be a deal breaker in the same way that it's not necessarily

04:29:14.160 a deal breaker if a woman's like very successful. 1.00

04:29:17.660 So in and out after the show, what's up?

04:29:20.600 Yeah.

04:29:21.300 It's kind of late tonight.

04:29:22.740 Don't you have a test to do it at midnight?

04:29:24.340 Oh, sure.

04:29:24.820 Okay.

04:29:25.500 But you guys can like, can you take her test for her?

04:29:29.240 What is it?

04:29:29.600 What is it?

04:29:30.780 Psychology.

04:29:31.660 I can take it.

04:29:33.080 I wouldn't do that.

04:29:34.100 That would be dishonorable.

04:29:35.540 Okay.

04:29:38.540 Where were we?

04:29:39.500 What were we talking about?

04:29:40.760 I disagree.

04:29:43.260 I don't think it's very easy for a man to get a girlfriend.

04:29:46.240 Okay.

04:29:47.560 All right.

04:29:48.460 Allie, did you have a thought on the video or?

04:29:51.520 You know, single people give a lot of opinions online and remain single.

04:29:55.820 Like, man, what can he do?

04:29:57.500 What can he say?

04:29:59.280 All right.

04:30:00.600 Does anyone have any final thoughts here before I wrap up?

04:30:04.660 Thanks for having me.

04:30:05.840 Thank you.

04:30:06.420 Thank you.

04:30:06.900 Cool, cool, cool.

04:30:07.280 I think you guys should go on a date.

04:30:09.340 Whoa, shipped.

04:30:10.520 Hold on.

04:30:10.740 I'm shipping it.

04:30:12.400 I think it's so cutesy.

04:30:15.060 Oh, my gosh.

04:30:15.980 Sophia, this is romantic.

04:30:19.640 This is cute.

04:30:23.600 Okay.

04:30:24.740 Let's get that last soup chat.

04:30:26.120 Hector, thank you for the 50.

04:30:27.780 Allie, do you want to read this one?

04:30:29.560 Hector Delgado says,

04:30:30.880 Allie, you have a great mindset,

04:30:32.180 and I was happy to see you on this podcast.

04:30:33.840 Wish you on this pod while Bangs was here.

04:30:36.280 That chick is hella delusional. 1.00

04:30:38.340 Anyway, Sophia, I'm glad you said no to Brian.

04:30:40.860 Sophia, my type for real.

04:30:42.060 She wouldn't have to work.

04:30:43.700 Yeah, I actually did want to talk to Bangs. 0.99

04:30:45.280 I think she's nihilistic,

04:30:47.520 and I think that kind of breaks my heart,

04:30:50.060 and I want to tell her that love is real.

04:30:53.800 Yeah.

04:30:54.380 She hasn't said no yet, Hector.

04:30:57.180 Okay.

04:30:58.280 They're working on it.

04:31:00.000 Hector's going to swoop in.

04:31:01.160 All right, expect a DM from Hector after the show.

04:31:03.260 I'm excited.

04:31:05.040 I invited Bangs on, actually, tonight,

04:31:07.720 but I guess she's sick.

04:31:10.580 I think I will do, guys,

04:31:11.740 I will do a round three with Bangs at some point.

04:31:14.600 Eric, is that, did another one come in,

04:31:16.960 or is that it?

04:31:18.160 We have DVDs.

04:31:20.240 Hide those.

04:31:21.820 Or wait, oh, did that one,

04:31:23.560 did the one from Destined come in as a,

04:31:26.080 what's it called?

04:31:27.560 Under 50.

04:31:28.720 Yeah, but I mean, he's being a little,

04:31:31.440 hide it.

04:31:32.080 Let's try to keep it semi-respectful, guys,

04:31:35.320 with the donations.

04:31:36.480 I'm sorry, Defok, if, yeah,

04:31:38.100 but, yeah, you're being a little,

04:31:40.860 I'm going to have to set up something in the stream labs

04:31:43.100 to, I don't know,

04:31:45.000 filter out some certain words there,

04:31:46.520 but, all right.

04:31:49.020 Okay.

04:31:50.960 Speak now or forever.

04:31:52.040 Hold your peace.

04:31:53.080 Anybody?

04:31:53.760 Final thought?

04:31:55.060 Before I wrap,

04:31:56.040 we did go late,

04:31:57.120 so appreciate your guys' patience here.

04:32:01.000 Anyways, guys,

04:32:02.940 thank you for tuning in tonight.

04:32:04.780 Thank you all for watching.

04:32:05.800 You could have been doing anything else,

04:32:07.800 but you were here with me.

04:32:08.880 I appreciate that.

04:32:10.180 Thank you to everyone who super chats

04:32:11.880 and supports the show and donates.

04:32:13.540 Really appreciate it,

04:32:14.480 especially since, you know,

04:32:15.780 YouTube and TikTok has us demonetized.

04:32:20.080 Thank you to all our chat mods.

04:32:21.520 Thank you to Chaz.

04:32:23.180 Thank you to the panel.

04:32:25.280 Really appreciate your patience.

04:32:26.360 We did go late.

04:32:27.560 I'm trying to bring it back down to three hours.

04:32:29.760 It's just the conversation continued.

04:32:31.880 We got another one from Mike Davis here.

04:32:33.640 Go ahead, Stella.

04:32:34.380 Read this.

04:32:35.380 Ginger, you're making a grave mistake.

04:32:37.580 I can show you the world. 0.93

04:32:40.280 Your little sissy boy can show you a fire station. 0.77

04:32:42.740 And the foon, 0.96

04:32:44.580 B-foon, 0.97

04:32:45.220 B-foon probably manages the hose. 0.86

04:32:47.800 You know how hard it is to manage the hose?

04:32:50.180 That thing will blow you backwards. 0.99

04:32:52.260 Moving on.

04:32:52.900 What's good, girl?

04:32:53.780 Second to the right.

04:32:55.960 Sophia, 1.00

04:32:57.220 you seem dumb and naive. 1.00

04:32:59.400 No, she's not up for some Mike Davis. 1.00

04:33:02.120 I'll say no for her. 1.00

04:33:03.120 Go fuck yourself, Mike. 1.00

04:33:04.680 Sorry, that was, 1.00

04:33:05.440 sorry, excuse my language.

04:33:07.080 No, Mike.

04:33:08.460 I like my firefighter.

04:33:09.960 Mike, that wasn't.

04:33:10.620 And she likes Brian, so.

04:33:11.920 Oh.

04:33:13.180 Sophia, do you have a response to Mike Davis?

04:33:15.600 I'm going to say no. 0.88

04:33:17.320 And I'm also not dumb nor naive.

04:33:20.660 Thank you.

04:33:21.640 It's going to be a no.

04:33:22.320 Does the whole like him owning 40 Burger Kings in North Carolina change anything?

04:33:26.760 That makes it worse.

04:33:26.840 I'm sorry.

04:33:27.840 40 Burger Kings.

04:33:29.060 You know, I'm not allowed to eat.

04:33:31.340 When I was younger, I wasn't allowed to eat at Burger King because Nabisco owns them.

04:33:34.960 Or not Nabisco.

04:33:35.680 Something about how they moved their main corporates to somewhere else so they didn't have to pay as many taxes.

04:33:40.200 And I don't know.

04:33:42.300 My dad wouldn't let me eat there.

04:33:43.420 All right.

04:33:43.800 Mike Davis.

04:33:44.400 Thank you, man.

04:33:45.320 Okay.

04:33:45.700 Big thank you again to the panel.

04:33:47.260 Appreciate you guys.

04:33:47.960 We did run a bit.

04:33:48.900 Can you hide?

04:33:49.340 Oh, there's another one.

04:33:50.120 Okay.

04:33:50.700 All right.

04:33:51.000 I guess if you keep the soup chats going, we continue the show.

04:33:54.320 But Sam, the victim.

04:33:56.660 Thank you for the 50 euro, man.

04:33:58.080 Greetings from Germany.

04:33:59.760 Hold on.

04:34:00.320 I got something for you.

04:34:01.600 Wait.

04:34:01.960 Sam.

04:34:06.180 All right.

04:34:09.120 I'll read this with the pickle haba.

04:34:11.100 Don't worry, guys.

04:34:11.900 World War I, not World War II.

04:34:13.740 Relax.

04:34:15.000 Okay.

04:34:15.960 Greetings from Germany.

04:34:17.320 Thanks for your content.

04:34:18.280 Men have a rough time in dating and social media expectations about what dating is and what

04:34:23.200 a man is supposed to do, make it super difficult to fulfill the fantasies of women these days. 0.99

04:34:35.100 Danke, Schein.

04:34:35.960 Thank you.

04:34:37.300 Is that thank you?

04:34:38.900 Danke?

04:34:39.460 I don't know.

04:34:40.300 I think so.

04:34:41.220 Does anyone here speak German?

04:34:42.560 No.

04:34:43.000 My sister does.

04:34:44.320 What is the...

04:34:46.540 Danke, Schein.

04:34:47.080 That means thank you.

04:34:47.640 Oh, all right.

04:34:50.100 All right.

04:34:50.700 Don't worry, guys.

04:34:51.360 World War I helmet, okay?

04:34:52.880 It's not...

04:34:54.460 In World War I, the bad guy is a bit more ambiguous.

04:34:59.580 It's a bit more...

04:35:00.540 Anyways.

04:35:01.080 Okay.

04:35:02.760 Thank you, Sam.

04:35:03.540 Really appreciate it.

04:35:05.860 Guys, we will be live again.

04:35:07.720 Can you hide that, Eric?

04:35:08.600 Thanks.

04:35:09.980 We will be live again Tuesday at 7 p.m. Pacific.

04:35:14.260 We will see you next time.

04:35:15.960 Have a good night, guys.

04:35:17.640 Oh, that was awkward.

04:35:20.960 Have a good night, guys.

04:35:22.740 See you guys.

04:35:23.500 Good night.

04:35:23.840 Good night.

04:35:24.680 You

Whatever Podcast - February 28, 2023

Dating Talk #58

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