Whatever Podcast - Dating Talk #6

00:00:00.000 Welcome to the Whatever Dating Talk podcast, coming to you live from Isla Vista, Santa

00:00:06.020 Barbara County, California, every Tuesday and Thursday at 7 p.m. Pacific.

00:00:11.300 I am your host, Brian Atlas, the most publicly rejected man in the history of the world.

00:00:18.640 So in a sense, I'm a dating expert, clearly.

00:00:21.840 I'm joined by my co-host, Kiki.

00:00:26.140 She's a bit shy.

00:00:27.080 A few quick announcements before the show begins.

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00:00:48.880 For the sake of debate, I may play devil's advocate and take on a position I may not necessarily

00:00:54.080 agree with.

00:00:54.660 Without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.

00:00:59.800 So please, tell us your name, age, occupation, and relationship status.

00:01:05.060 I'm going to start over here.

00:01:06.560 Hi, my name is Samantha.

00:01:08.480 I'm 22.

00:01:10.180 I work in media management, but I'm also releasing music soon, and I just published a book, so I

00:01:15.900 do a lot of things.

00:01:16.720 Hello, my name is Anna.

00:01:24.780 I am 26, and I'm a sacred sexuality rewilding and embodiment guide.

00:01:30.480 I do one-on-one coaching and group containers, and I'm also a poet and musician, and I am

00:01:36.600 single.

00:01:37.260 Okay, my name is Raina.

00:01:42.400 I'm 21.

00:01:43.620 I'm currently a student at UCSB, and I'm single.

00:01:47.940 Hi, I'm Julia.

00:01:49.880 I'm 20 years old, and I'm a hostess at a restaurant, and I'm newly in a relationship.

00:01:57.360 Newly in a relationship?

00:02:00.860 Newly in a relationship.

00:02:01.320 How new?

00:02:02.040 How new?

00:02:03.180 About a month.

00:02:04.800 Okay.

00:02:05.520 Yeah.

00:02:05.920 Congrats.

00:02:07.060 Thanks.

00:02:07.960 Good times.

00:02:08.900 Good times.

00:02:09.200 Good times.

00:02:10.120 I deserve it.

00:02:11.420 You deserve it.

00:02:12.440 I deserve it.

00:02:13.260 So when you say you deserve it, you've just been through some...

00:02:18.140 Oh, I've been through it all.

00:02:20.060 You've been through it all.

00:02:21.380 Okay.

00:02:21.880 I guess you could say that.

00:02:23.780 My last relationship was a disaster.

00:02:27.360 To say the least.

00:02:28.480 Give us like a plot synopsis of your disastrous last relationship.

00:02:33.840 You know, your typical narcissist mama's boy.

00:02:38.480 Mama's boy is always the worst.

00:02:40.640 That's how they get you.

00:02:41.780 You kind of think that's a good thing.

00:02:43.140 Like, oh, they have a cute little relationship with their mom.

00:02:45.500 But no.

00:02:46.540 It's bad.

00:02:47.240 She knows what I'm talking about.

00:02:48.160 She's nodding her head.

00:02:50.320 Yeah.

00:02:51.160 He ended up crashing my brand new car.

00:02:54.760 Never paid me back.

00:02:55.940 Among other things.

00:02:58.320 But that was probably the main one.

00:03:00.120 He crashed your car.

00:03:01.520 He crashed my car.

00:03:03.940 Was it a nice car?

00:03:05.100 It was a nice car.

00:03:06.700 What kind of car was it?

00:03:08.180 It was a Mercedes-Benz.

00:03:10.220 Rip.

00:03:10.980 Wow.

00:03:11.340 R.I.P.

00:03:11.920 In the chat.

00:03:13.360 Yeah.

00:03:13.580 Can we get an L?

00:03:14.960 Can we get an L for me?

00:03:15.840 Maybe an F in the chat for Julia and her Mercedes-Benz.

00:03:19.940 Thank you.

00:03:20.260 S-Class or S-Class?

00:03:24.160 I don't know, man.

00:03:25.260 You don't?

00:03:25.600 It's a GLB.

00:03:27.440 Okay.

00:03:28.260 So you three are single.

00:03:30.540 Yeah.

00:03:31.900 What does that mean?

00:03:33.740 What does being single mean?

00:03:36.840 That's a great answer.

00:03:37.600 Let's start with you.

00:03:38.500 So what does that mean for you?

00:03:39.760 I'm not dating anyone.

00:03:41.440 Are you talking to somebody?

00:03:44.280 Possibly.

00:03:45.360 Possibly.

00:03:45.940 Yeah.

00:03:46.520 It's complicated?

00:03:47.920 Kind of.

00:03:48.720 Like there are people that I talk to.

00:03:50.120 I don't know if we're talking.

00:03:51.260 When you say talk, are we talking like hooking up?

00:03:54.120 No.

00:03:54.360 What are we talking here?

00:03:54.940 Literally just talking.

00:03:56.260 Okay.

00:03:57.260 Like getting to know someone.

00:03:59.060 Getting to, okay.

00:04:00.040 But I wouldn't classify that as dating.

00:04:01.480 Like getting to know someone's not dating.

00:04:03.000 Unless you get taken on a date.

00:04:04.340 That's when I think it's dating.

00:04:05.980 But I feel like a lot of people don't go on proper dates.

00:04:10.100 It's like come over.

00:04:11.620 Yeah.

00:04:12.200 That's the problem.

00:04:12.720 Let's hang out.

00:04:13.820 Netflix and chill.

00:04:15.280 So it's kind of a blurred line when it comes to what constitutes a date.

00:04:20.760 You know?

00:04:21.200 Yeah.

00:04:22.920 So what does being single mean to you?

00:04:26.160 So for me, being single, it's definitely different than being celibate.

00:04:30.280 Because I was celibate for 10 months where I was only channeling my sexual energy into myself,

00:04:34.540 my self-pleasure practices, my business, my art.

00:04:36.700 But being single means that I'm like open to seeing people and I'm into sharing my sexual energy with people when it's aligned.

00:04:44.700 And yeah, like I could be dating or talking to no one or I could be dating and talking to multiple people at the same time.

00:04:51.580 But single is like, it means that I'm not actively in a committed relationship with someone.

00:04:56.100 But you could be sleeping with somebody.

00:04:58.500 I could be sleeping with someone and still single or multiple people at the same time.

00:05:01.400 Are you currently?

00:05:02.400 I am not, actually.

00:05:05.080 Okay.

00:05:05.580 Well.

00:05:07.300 Am not.

00:05:08.340 Complicated.

00:05:09.780 I have recently, but I'm not at the moment.

00:05:13.440 I see.

00:05:13.800 Clear field.

00:05:14.500 Okay.

00:05:14.820 All right.

00:05:16.060 Yeah.

00:05:16.280 I guess I would classify being single as like, I'm not committing myself to anyone.

00:05:21.500 And I'm also not expecting someone else to be committed to me, if that makes sense.

00:05:27.100 But at the same time, like, yeah, I could be talking to four other people just because I'm getting to know them.

00:05:34.460 But same thing.

00:05:35.720 Like, if you're not taking me out on a date, picking me up, paying for my dinner or things like that.

00:05:41.140 You're not dating.

00:05:42.200 You're talking.

00:05:42.480 Then you're not.

00:05:43.000 Exactly.

00:05:43.480 You're not taking me seriously.

00:05:45.360 Yeah.

00:05:45.580 And then, too, like, if I don't have feelings with someone, I mean, obviously, like, I don't know.

00:05:50.020 Like, when I really start to have feelings for someone, that's when I kind of start to shut off everything else and other people.

00:05:58.460 So.

00:06:00.340 Interesting.

00:06:01.020 Yeah, that's what being single is to me.

00:06:02.900 And so you said that you could be seeing somebody, but it's not, it doesn't reach the threshold of dating unless it's sort of meets the traditional metrics of that.

00:06:15.820 So I think you said picking you up, paying for your dates, et cetera, et cetera.

00:06:19.560 I don't know, though, because I've accepted a lot.

00:06:21.560 I've accepted a lot of comeovers and things like that, and it's also led to dating.

00:06:26.240 So I wouldn't say it just has to be the traditional pick-me-up, but they need to be putting in substantial effort, and they also need to not be seeing anyone else.

00:06:34.980 Yeah.

00:06:35.940 They have to not be seeing anyone else for what?

00:06:40.480 To be seeing you?

00:06:41.960 Yes.

00:06:42.560 Okay.

00:06:42.920 To be in a, or, yeah, for me to consider them as anything towards serious.

00:06:47.640 Like, they need to not be talking to anyone else.

00:06:49.560 And what about you?

00:06:51.160 Can you be talking to anybody else?

00:06:54.160 I'm sure they wouldn't like that, but no, no, no.

00:06:56.280 I'm, no, I shouldn't be talking to someone else.

00:06:58.600 Shouldn't.

00:06:59.200 No.

00:06:59.660 But do you?

00:07:00.880 No.

00:07:01.560 Okay.

00:07:02.220 If I really like someone, I am not talking to anyone else.

00:07:04.800 You're just focused on them.

00:07:06.040 I'm just focused on them.

00:07:07.000 Even if they haven't yet, either directly or indirectly.

00:07:11.020 Okay, that's a hard one, because I've been in a situation where I really like the person, and they were not interested in me at all, and I was still pursuing them.

00:07:18.100 But at the same time, I was so hurt about having to pursue them that I was also talking to other people at the same time.

00:07:24.940 So, yeah.

00:07:30.040 It's complicated.

00:07:31.080 It's complicated.

00:07:31.660 It is complicated.

00:07:33.260 It is very complicated.

00:07:34.480 Especially when we include polyamory in the mix, and dating multiple people, and then, okay.

00:07:41.920 Right?

00:07:42.540 So, you have some experience with polyamorous relationships.

00:07:48.400 Yes, I do.

00:07:49.080 What is the most concurrent amount of partners that you've had at a given time?

00:07:56.060 Four.

00:07:57.100 Yeah.

00:07:57.820 All men, or was it a mix of men and women?

00:08:00.320 Yeah.

00:08:00.620 Okay.

00:08:01.080 I'm pansexual, so full spectrum of people, genders, sexuality is what I'm into.

00:08:06.560 And so, are you sharing?

00:08:08.700 Like, are they kind of dating, too?

00:08:10.840 That's such a good question.

00:08:12.540 Sometimes, yes.

00:08:13.800 And sometimes, no.

00:08:15.680 But for me, and it hasn't always been this way in the people I've been relating with,

00:08:20.240 but for me, if I'm dating someone, and they're dating other people, I want to know the other people, at the very least.

00:08:25.560 Like, we don't have to all be dating, but I want to know who they are.

00:08:28.660 I want to, like, include them in just the love, even if it's not sexual.

00:08:33.440 But I've dated someone recently who was dating five other women while we were dating a man,

00:08:39.040 and none of them wanted to know me until the very end, one of them did, and we met.

00:08:44.080 But that was just, like, I could feel their energy.

00:08:46.320 Like, it's like I could feel them when I would be with him, and that was a boundary for me,

00:08:50.840 because I would want to know who they are if we're sharing intimate space with the same man.

00:08:54.780 Wait, I'm sorry.

00:08:58.820 I pressed the wrong button.

00:09:00.080 I pressed the wrong one.

00:09:01.040 Wait, so I meant to do word.

00:09:03.720 Right.

00:09:04.520 Okay.

00:09:04.920 I swear.

00:09:05.780 I swear that was the wrong one.

00:09:07.600 So, no, I'm curious about the whole polyamory thing.

00:09:10.180 So, and you said that even if you weren't with one of the other people that one of your partners

00:09:18.000 was seeing, you would want to know who they are.

00:09:21.760 So, for you with polyamory, was it a situation where you, like, they would, you wanted to know

00:09:30.760 who they were sleeping with?

00:09:32.020 Exactly.

00:09:32.760 Okay.

00:09:33.260 So, it wasn't like a don't ask, don't tell policy?

00:09:36.540 Not for me.

00:09:37.400 And I, so I've been in various iterations of polyamorous relating, and I've been with

00:09:42.500 partners who wanted it to be like that.

00:09:44.580 Like, don't ask, don't tell, just you do your thing, I'll do mine.

00:09:47.680 But I'm the opposite, because then I have all of the attachment wounding coming up.

00:09:51.100 And for me, I want to be able to share with my partner exactly what I can share with my

00:09:54.860 friends.

00:09:55.300 And so, if I can't tell them, like, I'm into someone, and this is my experience, then I

00:09:59.520 feel more distant from them.

00:10:01.000 But when I hear about who they're into, I can experience compersion, which is that feeling

00:10:05.300 of, like, being turned on by your partner's turn on, because of your love for them.

00:10:08.980 And then it's like, it just builds the intimacy, in my experience.

00:10:14.260 Word.

00:10:15.220 Cool.

00:10:16.220 That's really interesting.

00:10:17.160 We should definitely go into the whole polyamory thing a bit more later on in the show.

00:10:21.400 So, I guess that'll bring us to our first sort of topic question of the show.

00:10:26.560 So, does dating suck?

00:10:30.960 And if so, why?

00:10:32.820 Let me start over here.

00:10:34.580 Well, I feel like that's a very broad question.

00:10:38.320 It is broad.

00:10:40.440 Dating the wrong person sucks.

00:10:43.400 Dating the right person at the right time doesn't suck.

00:10:47.420 And I guess, to be more specific, when you're single, so the process of dating, you know,

00:10:55.560 like, going out, meeting new people, maybe you're on the dating apps, I want to say, does

00:11:01.400 dating suck prior to entering into a relationship?

00:11:08.540 Does dating suck prior to entering a relationship?

00:11:12.100 Right.

00:11:12.280 So, I'm not, I'm not, the question isn't so much focused on, I mean, certainly once you're

00:11:16.680 in a relationship, I mean, there's bad relationships, but I mean, it's more so like, dating when

00:11:22.520 you're single, does it suck?

00:11:24.020 Does dating suck?

00:11:28.460 Interesting question.

00:11:31.160 Do it!

00:11:31.900 Oh my God.

00:11:32.860 Okay, I will.

00:11:35.100 Well, okay.

00:11:36.180 I think, in between my two relationships, I had like a year where I was single.

00:11:42.420 And that was, it was fun.

00:11:45.020 It was pretty fun.

00:11:46.540 But, you know, you have to be in a certain headspace for that.

00:11:51.240 You have to be, you know, I don't know, man.

00:11:56.580 I think when I was single, I would look at people that were dating and be like, oh, that

00:12:00.060 kind of sucks.

00:12:00.740 Like, you're kind of tied down in a way.

00:12:03.540 And you can't really have fun.

00:12:04.820 You can't just like flirt around.

00:12:06.180 But now that I'm in a relationship, you know, it's nice to have a person to have consistently

00:12:12.720 in that sense.

00:12:15.200 So it's kind of just like, where you're at mentally in that way, you know?

00:12:21.900 Sure.

00:12:22.120 I don't know if that answered your question.

00:12:23.160 No, yeah, I feel like that too.

00:12:24.540 Like, your headspace makes, or it like, is a big deal in this.

00:12:28.840 And I feel like I could see both sides.

00:12:30.600 Like, it can suck if you're like, consistently trying to meet these guys, and they're all

00:12:35.600 talking to a bunch of other girls.

00:12:37.220 Like, you don't know if they're talking to another girl unless you have that conversation.

00:12:40.080 But for me personally, I think dating doesn't suck.

00:12:43.400 Because like, as a girl, you kind of like, not like you get stuff, but you're taking out

00:12:48.320 on dates.

00:12:48.860 You're like, you know?

00:12:50.280 Like, it's kind of fun.

00:12:51.200 And then you're also not committing to one person.

00:12:54.540 Like, you're just exploring your options.

00:12:57.460 But yeah.

00:12:58.500 And so you mentioned that your experience dating doesn't suck.

00:13:04.500 Because you mentioned...

00:13:07.040 It's kind of nice.

00:13:07.720 You get some gifts, you get some things.

00:13:10.680 Oh, not gifts, but like...

00:13:11.660 Or, well, you get taken out for dinner, for example.

00:13:13.920 Yeah.

00:13:14.840 And you also said that you see a bunch of people.

00:13:19.880 Did I...

00:13:20.160 I don't want to misquote you.

00:13:22.040 No, like, I'm saying I'm not committing to one person either.

00:13:24.920 So like, I'm getting to know a bunch of people at the same time.

00:13:27.560 I might have better connection with some than others.

00:13:30.880 But like, that's why I could see how dating sucks.

00:13:33.440 But like, I feel like if you know how to go about it, it doesn't suck.

00:13:39.720 And it's just like, nice meeting new people.

00:13:41.500 If it doesn't work out too, like, you've met another person who like, shared their story

00:13:44.780 with you, you know?

00:13:46.560 But yeah.

00:13:47.100 Do you think that on both sides, when people are dating multiple people, that that can

00:13:56.720 sometimes prevent what would otherwise have been a relationship from proceeding, prevent

00:14:03.600 it from happening?

00:14:04.460 Like, prevent?

00:14:05.480 Yeah.

00:14:05.820 Because if you're just dating a whole bunch of people, like...

00:14:07.960 I think there has to be communication about like, if you guys are exclusive or not.

00:14:11.720 And then, because like, in the beginning, when you first meet people, you're, they're probably

00:14:15.980 on like, dating apps.

00:14:17.000 They're probably talking to other girls.

00:14:18.340 Like, the likelihood that you're the only person they're talking to is very low.

00:14:21.720 And I just feel like...

00:14:23.560 Does that bother you at all?

00:14:25.580 I feel like it doesn't bother me because in today's day and age, like, that's what everyone's

00:14:29.000 doing.

00:14:30.220 And like, I'm kind of, I'm kind of doing the same thing, right?

00:14:32.660 I'm meeting a bunch of other guys.

00:14:34.380 And like, I'm not specifically narrowing it down to anyone.

00:14:38.280 Like, yeah.

00:14:40.060 Okay.

00:14:41.720 Does dating suck?

00:14:42.540 Does dating suck?

00:14:43.300 This is a funny question.

00:14:45.880 At times, yes.

00:14:48.200 And I'm trying to expand my frame of mind and heart to really feel like, no, it doesn't

00:14:53.020 suck.

00:14:53.720 But as a conscious woman on a spiritual path, deep in the sacred sexuality work, where I

00:14:59.680 want to be met in dating, in relationship, is very specific, very, very nuanced.

00:15:04.320 And I feel like the pool of people who can meet me there is very small.

00:15:07.880 And so I have this, in a sense, scarcity mindset around who is willing to, like, get fully

00:15:13.320 down in the wildness and the earth with me and, like, really be in that space of committing

00:15:18.280 to the awakening of our planet and, like, on the same path.

00:15:20.840 And it's hard for me to share my erotic energy with anyone who isn't in deep alignment with

00:15:25.700 that path.

00:15:26.100 So I have had this negative thing around dating, especially in L.A. of, like, it does suck

00:15:31.480 and I'm not into it.

00:15:32.840 I just want everything to, like, align perfectly.

00:15:35.200 And I'm slowly opening my energy to just be, you know, to trust that people can surprise

00:15:42.100 you and there can be magic even in the most unlikely connections.

00:15:45.360 You said going, getting down to earth, or what was it you said?

00:15:51.040 Something about earth?

00:15:52.380 Earth, yes.

00:15:53.220 I think I said.

00:15:53.540 The earth energy?

00:15:54.420 The earth energy.

00:15:55.120 What does that mean?

00:15:56.000 The earth, okay.

00:15:56.720 What does that mean?

00:15:57.560 Pachamama, the earth, like, we come from the earth, right?

00:16:00.820 And so I feel like being in, especially living in L.A. and the heart of, like, the immediate

00:16:08.660 capital of the world, Hollywood, all of this, the city, there can be this energy that's,

00:16:12.720 that's, like, very ungrounded and not, like, connected to the elements, connected to the

00:16:20.360 fresh water, connected to the fire and the earth.

00:16:23.780 And so I only want to share my Eros, Eros being erotic energy.

00:16:28.420 Wait, Eros?

00:16:29.120 Eros, E-R-O-S.

00:16:30.560 Is that like a Greek?

00:16:31.580 Yeah, the Greek god Eros.

00:16:32.920 And so the term Eros.

00:16:33.960 Who's, is Dionysus involved?

00:16:36.220 Is that a Greek?

00:16:37.180 Is he Greek?

00:16:38.300 Do you know who I'm talking about?

00:16:39.180 Honestly, I don't know.

00:16:39.520 Yes, I've heard, I've heard this one.

00:16:41.320 And my mythology doesn't go very far beyond Eros.

00:16:44.040 Okay, so Eros, okay, sure, sure.

00:16:46.160 Eros being our sexual life force energy, like that feeling of turn on.

00:16:49.740 So I only want to share my Eros with someone who can actually meet me in that space of spirituality

00:16:56.480 and earth wisdom.

00:16:59.080 Yeah.

00:16:59.940 Not everyone in L.A. can.

00:17:02.140 Well, I mean, I agree with that, L.A.

00:17:04.060 I mean, you're Sammy, right?

00:17:06.120 Yeah.

00:17:06.420 You're from L.A. too, right?

00:17:07.680 No, I'm originally from a small town.

00:17:09.600 And I moved to L.A. last year.

00:17:11.060 But you've been in L.A. for a year.

00:17:12.400 I've been in L.A. for a year, yeah.

00:17:13.880 You're from a small town?

00:17:15.000 Yeah.

00:17:15.440 What small town?

00:17:16.260 New Smyrna Beach, Florida.

00:17:19.220 That's not, that's, isn't that just outside of Fort Lauderdale?

00:17:24.000 It's like 20 minutes, no, it's like 20 minutes from Daytona, an hour from Orlando, and three

00:17:28.640 hours from Miami, so.

00:17:29.960 But you've been in L.A. for a year.

00:17:32.440 But I've been in L.A. for a year.

00:17:32.720 So you're corrupted.

00:17:33.780 Yes.

00:17:34.040 Right?

00:17:34.260 Yes, I've already.

00:17:34.960 You're fully corrupted.

00:17:35.380 I'm fully corrupted.

00:17:37.000 Okay.

00:17:37.300 Completely submerged.

00:17:39.280 But so I do agree, though, that L.A., it's very superficial, shallow.

00:17:48.200 Yeah, shallow.

00:17:48.460 So I get that.

00:17:49.060 But no, I definitely agree with what you said.

00:17:51.800 It really has a lot to do with your headspace because I've been in times where I've been

00:17:54.940 single and I'm so, I feel so bad about myself only because I had probably just gotten out

00:18:00.640 of a relationship at that point and I'm missing someone or I do miss that consistency.

00:18:06.520 But once I start feeling better, then it does become fun because it is fun to meet new people

00:18:11.920 and get out there.

00:18:12.880 And even if it goes really bad, like I've been in so many bad dates, it's still something

00:18:16.580 to laugh about and it's an experience and it's like a new contact.

00:18:20.500 Like you never know who you're going to meet.

00:18:22.160 That's what I always say.

00:18:23.340 In L.A., like you never know.

00:18:25.300 So it definitely is fun when you're in the right headspace.

00:18:29.740 So, but did you answer the question?

00:18:34.260 Does dating suck?

00:18:35.960 No, dating doesn't suck.

00:18:37.660 No.

00:18:39.160 No.

00:18:39.520 So you, okay.

00:18:41.320 Overall, it seems like panel.

00:18:44.100 We like dating.

00:18:44.620 It's like dating.

00:18:45.080 We like dating.

00:18:45.820 All right.

00:18:46.260 You kind of just got to like play the game.

00:18:48.140 Play the game?

00:18:48.580 Yes.

00:18:48.840 You know that they're like playing a game, so you got to play it back.

00:18:51.920 Like you got to be smarter than them.

00:18:53.560 Smarter than?

00:18:54.240 Three steps ahead.

00:18:55.040 Three steps ahead of them.

00:18:56.280 Three steps ahead.

00:18:57.100 Not like you act clueless, but like kind of.

00:18:59.720 What's that?

00:19:00.400 Nothing.

00:19:00.960 Wait, wait, wait.

00:19:01.400 Repeat it.

00:19:01.780 Repeat it.

00:19:02.260 I said not that you act clueless, but like kind of to like not give them a sense of that they're

00:19:06.720 in the, like that they have power over you, you know?

00:19:09.280 Like you're the, the ball's in your court.

00:19:11.720 You don't have to do anything you don't want to do either.

00:19:13.640 Like on dates, like if a guy asks like, can I kiss you?

00:19:15.800 I'm like, no.

00:19:17.420 Yeah.

00:19:17.900 And like, he won't kiss me.

00:19:19.880 So then he respects your boundary.

00:19:21.180 Yeah.

00:19:21.340 He respects my boundary, which I nice.

00:19:23.080 Yeah.

00:19:23.340 And I'd rather them like accept that boundary and like be still like be interested in me.

00:19:29.480 Yeah.

00:19:29.720 Like not just wanting me to like for physical.

00:19:32.420 Yeah.

00:19:33.720 Whoa.

00:19:34.100 So is it a game then?

00:19:35.080 Or is it just like.

00:19:35.620 Not like a game, but just kind of like, I know that they're talking to a bunch of guys.

00:19:40.220 So why would I close myself off to just that one guy?

00:19:44.240 Right.

00:19:44.800 I don't know.

00:19:45.400 Do you guys agree?

00:19:46.360 Yeah.

00:19:46.800 Like why would I take someone seriously when clearly they're not taking me seriously at

00:19:50.980 all?

00:19:51.780 Yeah.

00:19:51.920 Especially because we're all like in our early twenties.

00:19:54.340 Like this is the time to like explore and find yourself too.

00:19:58.320 Exactly.

00:19:59.820 When you say explore and find yourself, does that mean just like get run through by a bunch

00:20:06.700 of dudes?

00:20:07.240 No.

00:20:08.080 I just want to translate.

00:20:09.200 Wait, where did you get that?

00:20:10.960 I'm just translating here.

00:20:13.220 I meant like literally finding who you are.

00:20:14.520 Like you don't know, like people have like childhood traumas and like beliefs that they

00:20:18.240 had that they grew up with and don't know anything else.

00:20:21.960 But now that you're like in college, like I love being at UCSB because I've been able

00:20:25.200 to like figure out what I truly like and I've put myself out there in different ways and

00:20:29.760 just see what works best for me, you know?

00:20:32.340 By the way, did you guys say what your majors were at UCSB?

00:20:35.520 Major?

00:20:36.440 I'm a comm major.

00:20:38.320 I'm a stats and data science major.

00:20:41.100 Okay.

00:20:41.500 Next question for you guys.

00:20:46.800 So there's been bad dates.

00:20:50.100 There's been good dates.

00:20:51.580 What would you say is the best, most, maybe not best, but what is the furthest a guy has

00:20:59.760 gone in terms of a date?

00:21:01.760 Has a guy ever offered, well, let me start with this.

00:21:05.260 Has a guy ever offered to fly you out somewhere?

00:21:08.220 Let's start with Samantha here.

00:21:10.860 Oh my gosh.

00:21:12.440 Um, okay.

00:21:14.020 I have had a guy offer to fly me out somewhere.

00:21:17.640 And then when it came time to like buy the flight, like we're on the phone with each

00:21:21.800 other, right?

00:21:22.340 We're on FaceTime.

00:21:23.580 And he's like, okay, so did you get the flight?

00:21:28.220 And I'm sitting here like, um, I thought you were supposed to be flying me out on the

00:21:32.740 flight.

00:21:32.980 Like that's what I'm thinking in my head, guys.

00:21:35.360 I was so stupid.

00:21:36.520 I bought the flight, but I've had other experiences where a guy has flown me somewhere with him

00:21:43.860 like to go together on a date.

00:21:45.540 So I've had that, but I guess I've never had the experience of a guy literally flying me

00:21:49.680 out to his city.

00:21:51.500 No.

00:21:52.620 Dubai.

00:21:53.060 You look disappointed.

00:21:58.860 Wait, but so you said you have gone on dates where the guy has flown you somewhere.

00:22:03.520 Yes.

00:22:04.140 And was that, would you say earlier on?

00:22:06.780 That was earlier on.

00:22:07.800 Early on.

00:22:08.440 He flew us to Vegas.

00:22:09.900 We, me and him like never ended up actually dating, but it was really fun.

00:22:13.740 He flew me to Vegas.

00:22:14.900 The entire trip was paid for.

00:22:16.240 Um, I mean, that was a pretty extravagant, extravagant date.

00:22:21.420 And let me just say this.

00:22:22.680 I actually didn't end up dating that guy.

00:22:24.660 Like I didn't end up liking him.

00:22:26.180 That did not make me like him.

00:22:28.040 So just putting that out there.

00:22:29.800 What date number was that?

00:22:31.300 The Vegas trip.

00:22:32.540 Number two.

00:22:33.880 Number one.

00:22:34.980 Maybe like number four.

00:22:36.040 Number four.

00:22:36.640 Number four.

00:22:36.940 Okay.

00:22:37.320 Yeah.

00:22:38.160 And was that the only flown out situation?

00:22:42.600 Yeah.

00:22:42.700 That was the only flown out situation.

00:22:44.440 The only one.

00:22:45.140 Yeah.

00:22:45.660 There isn't another?

00:22:46.620 No.

00:22:46.900 Okay.

00:22:47.320 No more.

00:22:48.200 What about you?

00:22:48.660 Ever flown out?

00:22:49.600 No one has ever flown me anywhere.

00:22:51.020 Have you ever had an offer from a guy?

00:22:52.860 Hey.

00:22:53.880 No.

00:22:54.460 I'm in Miami.

00:22:56.080 Come, come fly me out.

00:22:57.340 I'll fly you out.

00:22:57.660 No, I had an offer from a friend who's in Miami who was like, come see me.

00:23:01.900 Friend, lover.

00:23:03.160 And I had someone I was in a committed partnership with buy me a ticket.

00:23:06.820 Okay.

00:23:07.480 But I do have a story of a really, like how far a guy has gone.

00:23:11.420 Okay.

00:23:11.800 Let's hear it.

00:23:12.560 Um, not a flight, but on our first date, he bought roses and also bought a bunch of rose

00:23:22.560 things like rose soap.

00:23:23.880 He bought rose tea.

00:23:24.860 He bought rose laundry detergent.

00:23:26.240 He bought rose perfume because he knows that I love roses.

00:23:28.680 And so I like go into his room and he, the whole bed is covered with roses.

00:23:32.480 There's a rose candle lit, all this rose stuff.

00:23:35.000 It felt like I was getting married.

00:23:36.220 It was like roses everywhere.

00:23:38.320 And then we had an amazing night together.

00:23:39.880 And then he made me breakfast in bed the next day and like fed me berries and no one has

00:23:43.560 ever done that.

00:23:44.460 And so I proceed to think like, oh, I'm falling in love with him.

00:23:47.620 But this is the guy that's dating five other women.

00:23:49.300 And it's like, no, I just like want to worship the divine feminine, every woman, which I

00:23:52.920 get.

00:23:53.120 And we're great friends now, but I was shocked.

00:23:55.720 I was like, no one I've dated for years has ever bought me like all this rose stuff and

00:23:59.900 like made the bed so nice.

00:24:01.300 And yeah, it was really sweet and confusing.

00:24:05.240 Same time.

00:24:06.320 What, what date number was that?

00:24:08.220 One.

00:24:09.080 Number one.

00:24:09.720 Yeah.

00:24:09.900 Well, we had, we knew we had been friends for the past like year and a half.

00:24:14.240 And then we had acknowledged that like, oh, there's a charge and we want to explore this.

00:24:17.880 And then it was, it was like the first time we did.

00:24:20.580 And you said there was rose petals everywhere, rose, it full roses, rose tea, rose laundry.

00:24:27.140 It was just rose extravaganza.

00:24:29.900 And did you appreciate that?

00:24:31.440 Or you're like, yo, this is extra.

00:24:33.180 This is kind of weird.

00:24:35.120 Honestly, I loved it.

00:24:36.460 Cause I was just in a space of like worship me as the goddess I am, like pamper me.

00:24:40.320 I love gift giving.

00:24:41.380 It's one of my big love languages.

00:24:43.540 So I'm like, give me gifts.

00:24:44.760 But it did get confusing when I was like, I like, I wanted to be in a relationship with

00:24:49.780 him and he was like, what?

00:24:51.220 Like, I'm just like doing, I like, what?

00:24:53.040 No.

00:24:53.320 Like, did I send mixed messages?

00:24:54.540 I was like, yes, you did.

00:24:56.480 The roses, the breakfast in bed, mixed messages.

00:25:00.040 Let's just go around the panel really quick.

00:25:01.820 If a guy like first date did a bunch of all this extra shit, roses, chocolates.

00:25:08.160 What were some of the other stuff?

00:25:09.360 Tea, rose petals, laundry detergent, laundry detergent, laundry detergent, honestly, that's

00:25:22.720 actually a good idea.

00:25:23.860 I'm going to start doing that.

00:25:25.380 Bringing laundry detergent to my first day here.

00:25:27.680 You're dirty.

00:25:29.300 Yeah.

00:25:29.480 I don't know if I take that.

00:25:31.140 Well, I don't know if that'd be like a good thing.

00:25:32.840 Are you trying to tell me something?

00:25:33.720 But, uh, so Samantha, um, yeah, if someone did that, would that be a bit extra?

00:25:40.560 I would be so surprised.

00:25:42.340 That is, I mean, okay.

00:25:43.940 Aside from the laundry detergent, that's so thoughtful for someone to just go and plan

00:25:48.240 all of this stuff because they know that they're going to see me.

00:25:51.340 I mean, I honestly wouldn't even know what to think and it would depend on the person

00:25:55.920 too.

00:25:56.160 Like who's doing that.

00:25:57.220 Yeah.

00:25:57.760 It would really depend on who it was.

00:26:00.360 Okay.

00:26:01.740 Wait, what was the question?

00:26:02.900 Uh, if I got like first date and a guy's doing all this extra shit, let's say he gets

00:26:07.280 you, let's say he gets you flowers, uh, chocolate, all that stuff.

00:26:12.820 Do I know him before?

00:26:14.300 Let's just say no.

00:26:15.160 That's a good question.

00:26:15.680 Like it's like the first time meeting in person?

00:26:17.400 First date, first date, but maybe you guys met say on a dating app or he approached you.

00:26:24.900 I don't know.

00:26:25.780 I don't know.

00:26:26.260 I guess it wouldn't, I wouldn't like be mean about it.

00:26:28.940 I wouldn't, it wouldn't be weird, but yeah.

00:26:31.040 Like I'd be thankful that he thought put that much thought into it.

00:26:35.960 You wouldn't feel like any sort of type of way.

00:26:38.720 If it was like rose petals on the bed, I would, I would think a type of way for the first

00:26:42.920 date, but like flowers and chocolates, like that's kind of cute.

00:26:46.100 Okay.

00:26:46.420 Immediately now.

00:26:51.540 If a guy got you flowers and all that.

00:26:53.860 Flowers.

00:26:54.420 Yeah.

00:26:55.060 Flowers are great, but I think like, you know, for you, that's great because you've known

00:27:00.780 this person, but if I met this person on a dating app and he bought me detergent and

00:27:04.860 so you are a freak and not the good kind, you know, like I would give me the egg.

00:27:10.960 I would, the detergent way, the detergent, I'd be like, what?

00:27:16.860 What if he worked, hold on.

00:27:18.560 What if he worked at a soap company and he was just like, look, I got a little extra soap

00:27:23.720 that I'd give you some.

00:27:25.780 Then it's kind of like, first date.

00:27:29.380 He gives you like a Costco wholesale amount of detergent.

00:27:34.480 Like one of those big jugs.

00:27:36.120 I would leave immediately.

00:27:37.280 No, this did not happen.

00:27:40.060 What were the pods that people were eating?

00:27:42.320 Oh, the Tide Pods.

00:27:43.120 Yeah.

00:27:43.420 Oh God.

00:27:43.840 He brought you a bunch of Tide Pods.

00:27:45.200 That, no go for you.

00:27:46.760 It's like, I only like clean women.

00:27:49.380 Yeah.

00:27:49.780 I feel like I just, generally I have like a bias towards men in the sense that I am scared

00:27:57.540 of them a little.

00:27:58.680 And I think they're always have some sort of misogyny within them.

00:28:04.300 So I'm like, what message are you really trying to, what message are you really trying

00:28:12.360 to portray here?

00:28:13.980 Like you want me to change something?

00:28:15.700 You want me to do something for you?

00:28:17.340 I don't know.

00:28:18.080 It's just kind of like an innate thing for me because the men that I have experienced relations

00:28:24.780 with have been that way.

00:28:27.980 So I'm a little, I'm a little biased.

00:28:30.800 Wait, go into the misogyny thing.

00:28:32.240 Let's talk a bit about that.

00:28:34.000 What do you mean by that?

00:28:35.320 Well, I just feel like every man just has a little bit of misogyny in them.

00:28:40.760 Every man.

00:28:41.580 I think every man.

00:28:42.640 Every man.

00:28:42.880 I think it's a, I think it's an inherited thing.

00:28:46.820 You know?

00:28:47.480 They're all, so all the men were just all misogynists.

00:28:50.560 You got to have a little bit.

00:28:51.920 A little bit.

00:28:52.400 She's nodding her head.

00:28:53.360 Oh yeah.

00:28:53.620 I have a lot to say about this.

00:28:54.880 She has a lot to say about this.

00:28:57.180 Okay.

00:28:58.360 So what about, so does the same apply to women?

00:29:03.800 Do women have misogyny?

00:29:05.840 Misandry.

00:29:07.440 In every woman, there's a little bit of misandry.

00:29:09.760 Is that, would you, would you agree with that?

00:29:12.820 Well, I believe it's, people are going to.

00:29:16.280 Misandry?

00:29:17.180 What is that?

00:29:18.440 Misandry is the.

00:29:19.320 The opposite of misogyny?

00:29:21.640 Yeah.

00:29:21.940 Misogyny.

00:29:22.240 Basically, you're saying.

00:29:24.280 Misogyny is the hatred, contempt of women.

00:29:27.020 Or discrimination.

00:29:28.200 I don't know.

00:29:29.140 I think it's, that's about it.

00:29:30.880 Hatred, contempt for women.

00:29:33.140 Hatred and contempt for men is misandry.

00:29:35.760 I see.

00:29:36.600 Yes.

00:29:38.400 Well, I believe it's, I'm even playing fields.

00:29:41.600 I mean, women have been suppressed for centuries.

00:29:44.420 So, you know, I feel like we all are kind of conditioned societally to, you know, kind of have that bias towards men.

00:29:56.180 Like, we kind of grew up that way, I feel like.

00:29:58.380 Like, if you guys can relate.

00:30:00.320 Yeah.

00:30:00.940 What do you, what do you mean, the bias towards men?

00:30:04.960 Just like, I feel like the term, like, oh, boys will be boys is so common when men are mean or men are disrespectful.

00:30:14.420 It's just like, oh, he's just, yeah.

00:30:16.280 Or, like, growing up, if a boy was mean, they would say, oh, it's only because he likes you.

00:30:21.540 Yes.

00:30:21.800 But.

00:30:22.440 I've heard that same thing with women, though.

00:30:24.520 Oh, she's mean to you because she likes you.

00:30:26.860 I think that can go both ways.

00:30:28.560 Okay.

00:30:28.640 But as far as the boys will be boys thing, I mean, I think that's, I think that's more so, like, when boys are just roughhousing with each other.

00:30:36.680 I guess.

00:30:38.060 But so you're, okay, so you said that misandry is justified.

00:30:45.200 Hatred of men is justified because women throughout history have been oppressed.

00:30:50.660 Is that kind of your stance?

00:30:51.820 I don't want to, I don't want to speak for you.

00:30:53.440 I'm just trying to understand your position.

00:30:54.980 I, well, I don't think it's as present as I believe misogyny is present in men.

00:31:02.660 And, you know, that could just be in so many different degrees.

00:31:09.880 Like, men can be like, oh, women can't do this.

00:31:13.620 Women can't.

00:31:14.300 And, like, I've had guys say, oh, it's so weird.

00:31:17.740 You know, they're like, it's weird when a girl is chubby, but it's also weird when she goes to the gym too much.

00:31:23.680 Like, what do you want?

00:31:24.760 You know, like, women can't.

00:31:27.780 My ex, actually, was getting a tattoo one time.

00:31:31.640 And I was like, oh, do you want my opinion?

00:31:33.700 And he said, no, women don't know anything about tattoos.

00:31:36.840 Tattoos are for men.

00:31:37.740 So, it's like, kind of like that.

00:31:40.580 You know, they think women are stupid and useless.

00:31:44.240 And I don't think women have that same sentiment innately as men do.

00:31:50.900 You know what I mean?

00:31:51.720 You don't think they have the same sentiment?

00:31:56.880 Towards men.

00:31:57.880 Towards men.

00:31:58.580 As men do to women.

00:32:00.080 Yeah.

00:32:01.560 I don't know about that one.

00:32:03.300 There's a lot of man-hating out there.

00:32:05.700 A lot of man-hating.

00:32:07.260 Well, I know, I can't speak for everyone, but.

00:32:09.540 What's that?

00:32:10.320 I know, I said they do it to themselves.

00:32:13.180 Can I answer this a little bit?

00:32:14.740 Let me respond to her, and then I'll have you come in.

00:32:17.440 So, you said that men do it to themselves.

00:32:20.000 So, actually, that's kind of true.

00:32:22.560 So, they did a study on this, and they found out that men actually have a slight out-group bias for women.

00:32:34.280 And women have an in-group bias for other women.

00:32:41.000 So, yeah, men do, men are hating themselves, I guess.

00:32:46.260 Go ahead.

00:32:46.880 You wanted to come in.

00:32:47.960 Yeah.

00:32:48.520 No, that's interesting what you brought up.

00:32:50.380 And, yeah, on this piece of misogyny, I feel that we all have pieces of the patriarchy inside of us.

00:32:57.840 What?

00:32:58.180 Hold on.

00:32:58.540 What's the patriarchy?

00:32:59.440 The patriarchy.

00:33:00.540 You're right.

00:33:01.100 That's a very general term.

00:33:02.060 But when I say the patriarchy, what I mean is this, it's beyond men.

00:33:08.780 It's this internalized system of oppression, of domination that extends far beyond gender, far beyond race.

00:33:15.920 It's this energy of, like, hierarchy, this hierarchy within us.

00:33:20.380 And we all have internalized that based on the cultures that we're brought up in and the state of the world right now.

00:33:26.720 And so that can then be extended to different forms of power over others rather than power with and power from within and power where it's like the power of a circle.

00:33:35.940 It's this domination concept, this pyramid.

00:33:38.260 And so when I think of misogyny, I think of the hatred of women and men being on top of this pyramid or vice versa with women being on top of the pyramid.

00:33:45.820 And it has, yeah, the statement of they do it to themselves or it's this, yeah, the fear of men.

00:33:51.360 It's like it has flipped.

00:33:53.140 I get that.

00:33:53.860 Like the hatred towards men because of the hatred towards women for centuries.

00:33:58.780 And so there has been this flip that's happened.

00:34:00.540 And ultimately, I think that it's us getting to really allow that domination paradigm within us to fall.

00:34:09.300 And so we can see that every human, like there is a place we can all meet each other, but not without honoring all of the history of oppression of women.

00:34:18.680 And same goes for people of color.

00:34:20.240 And yeah, it's just like we get to honor that first.

00:34:24.040 And so when you said like you're wary of men, I was like, yeah, sis, me too, like always because I don't know, you know, what their intentions are.

00:34:32.340 I don't know like what, you know, how they are with other women or their sisters or their mothers.

00:34:37.300 Like it's this like wariness that I have more with men than with women.

00:34:40.900 And we can have it with any person.

00:34:43.820 So can you just, there was a lot there.

00:34:46.460 And if anybody else wants to jump in on this, so you use the word patriarchy.

00:34:53.700 And I just want us to be to be precise in what we're saying.

00:34:57.100 So can you articulate what is the patriarchy?

00:35:01.400 What is the patriarchy?

00:35:02.560 What articulate it?

00:35:04.500 The patriarchy is a system of domination where specifically those in male bodies are at the top.

00:35:12.680 Wait, those in male, so men?

00:35:14.800 Yes, we could say men.

00:35:16.520 So males?

00:35:17.060 Okay.

00:35:17.280 We could say men are at the top.

00:35:19.700 And there are others that are under them that have less power.

00:35:24.860 And the ones at the top being those in male bodies have more say in things.

00:35:30.300 We see more of their faces in politics.

00:35:32.960 And there's a sense of like they're doing like the right thing.

00:35:37.020 And those who are women don't have the same leverage as those who are men in positions of power.

00:35:44.800 Okay.

00:35:47.340 So it's, you're basically, it's men as a group are working together to oppress women as a group, as a whole.

00:35:58.840 Is that what the patriarchy is?

00:36:01.800 And the earth.

00:36:03.020 And the earth.

00:36:03.640 Yes.

00:36:04.100 And so if we think of like, you know, fracking, for instance, that's a product of the patriarchy.

00:36:10.200 Fracking?

00:36:11.020 Yes.

00:36:11.240 Is a product of the patriarchy.

00:36:14.060 Absolutely.

00:36:14.720 Like extracting resources from.

00:36:16.260 What else is a product of the patriarchy?

00:36:19.580 Plastic surgery.

00:36:21.080 Plastic surgery?

00:36:21.880 Plastic surgery.

00:36:22.620 Big product of the patriarchy.

00:36:23.580 Is a product of the patriarchy.

00:36:24.720 Yes, because feminine beauty standards that say like only a woman who looks like this is how, is a woman that will be loved, that will receive love from a man usually.

00:36:33.340 So we have this whole industry around plastic surgery that's going to like create, you know, and if anyone gets plastic surgery, like it's not, it's not saying like, don't do that or never do that, whatever.

00:36:42.500 But I'd say that's a product of the patriarchy.

00:36:44.120 I would say that razors are a product of the patriarchy.

00:36:47.620 Like, it's so many things.

00:36:49.840 Razors?

00:36:50.520 Yes.

00:36:51.340 The concept of eating disorders, product of the patriarchy.

00:36:54.720 Wait, razors are, how, how did razors get involved?

00:36:58.600 Shaving.

00:36:59.040 Shaving?

00:36:59.800 Shaving.

00:37:00.880 Yes.

00:37:01.280 Wait.

00:37:02.280 Shaving is a product of the patriarchy?

00:37:05.520 Yes.

00:37:06.200 Actually, I have some, I have resources on this if we want to go back to the, the witch burning times.

00:37:12.340 The witch burnings?

00:37:13.560 Yes.

00:37:14.320 What happened then?

00:37:15.960 What happened then was.

00:37:17.020 What happened with the witches?

00:37:18.360 Men and women.

00:37:19.440 So it's really never about just men or women.

00:37:22.160 It's like the masculine within all of us, right?

00:37:24.560 And so men and women both were shut down for being in attunement with nature, being in attunement with the elements, for knowing about herbal medicine, for birthing babies, midwives, etc.

00:37:38.480 And so in, in the book, um, witches, midwives, and nurses, they talk about how those who would be called witches would, at, before they'd be burned at the stake or sunk into water, they would strip them of their power in many ways, one of those ways being shaving their legs to strip them of the power of their hair, which often symbolizes the intuition.

00:37:59.420 Wow.

00:37:59.980 Okay.

00:38:00.380 That, there's a lot there.

00:38:01.880 There's a lot there.

00:38:02.880 We touched on a lot of things.

00:38:04.340 Okay, so, um, I'm still not totally sure what, what the patriarchy is.

00:38:09.540 Does anybody else want to jump in or take a crack at it?

00:38:12.900 I would say that a lot of things mentioned, and this is just my personal opinion, is more of a factor of capitalism than it is of, like, oh, you want to look like this.

00:38:20.940 But at the same time, like, I've had plastic surgery, so.

00:38:24.700 What kind of plastic surgery?

00:38:25.640 Like, I had a nose job when, like, two years ago.

00:38:28.100 And, honestly, I was with a guy, and he dated me through the whole thing, before and after.

00:38:32.660 So, I don't know.

00:38:35.640 I don't know.

00:38:36.040 I think it's more, like, a personal thing.

00:38:37.840 You mean the plastic surgery thing?

00:38:39.120 Yeah.

00:38:39.360 Yeah, I think it's more of a personal thing.

00:38:40.940 Yeah.

00:38:41.060 But then, on the other side of, like, this patriarchy, there is also this, like, femme fatale that's kind of emerged.

00:38:46.000 Like, I also feel like I'm in control of some of the situations when I'm with a guy.

00:38:49.380 And there's also been times where I'm in the room with a guy, and I know, and he knows, that there are some advantages that I have.

00:38:56.340 Maybe it's, like, whatever the social advantages are, like, job, like, whatever it is, like, there's a clear air in the room that I have the advantage in that situation.

00:39:06.280 That man is trying to impress me.

00:39:10.440 And I don't know.

00:39:12.340 I think there's something to that.

00:39:14.220 There's something to that.

00:39:15.160 It's like, okay.

00:39:15.920 So, you're saying in a social setting, you have some advantages over men when you're moving through a room?

00:39:25.140 Or maybe I feel that way.

00:39:26.840 Okay.

00:39:26.880 Like, it's almost like the image of, like, a girl walking and, like, guys are, like, fanning her down.

00:39:32.760 It's just, like, there are some, I don't know.

00:39:36.120 I feel like women do have a lot of advantages over men in the sense that they are so just, like, I don't know, careless and just.

00:39:45.920 I don't know.

00:39:46.980 It's such a weird concept.

00:39:48.760 But I definitely feel like a guy, like, some guys will just do anything.

00:39:53.080 I got it.

00:39:53.880 Yeah.

00:39:54.420 Good answer.

00:39:55.640 Wow.

00:39:57.740 Okay.

00:39:58.000 So, we could probably definitely go down the rabbit hole of patriarchy and feminism and all that stuff.

00:40:03.420 I don't know how much we want to veer in that direction.

00:40:08.700 I mean, I don't know.

00:40:09.960 This whole idea of a patriarchy, honestly, this is going to be a hot take.

00:40:15.220 It's basically just QAnon and deep state for feminists.

00:40:18.840 That's my take.

00:40:19.700 I mean, this idea of a patriarchy, it's also just the apex fallacy.

00:40:24.140 You're looking at the men at the very top but, like, not considering men.

00:40:27.960 I mean, you can say that you mentioned, like, politicians and stuff.

00:40:32.360 Certainly, in certain positions of power and, like, CEO jobs and stuff, yes, there is a higher proportion of men.

00:40:39.420 But there is a higher proportion of men that also occupy the absolute worst positions, the absolute worst jobs.

00:40:48.840 Eighty percent of the homeless are men.

00:40:51.580 The vast majority of people who commit suicide are men.

00:40:54.540 The most amount of people who are in prison are men.

00:40:59.480 Police brutality, police killings, it impacts men most.

00:41:03.080 So, I mean, I think both men and women have their advantages and disadvantages, their struggles.

00:41:12.520 I fully agree.

00:41:14.920 And everything I shared isn't to say that that's not true.

00:41:19.260 It's the concept of, it's the domination paradigm and masculine and feminine energy, like yin and yang, rather than just men and women.

00:41:28.100 And, like, everything I stand for is the opposite of, like, that polarization that feminism can get into.

00:41:33.600 It's, like, how do we ultimately come back together and understand that the patriarchy affects men just as much as women?

00:41:38.920 And capitalism and the patriarchy are, like, so intertwined.

00:41:42.320 And white supremacy, it's all, like, part of the same interlocking systems of oppression.

00:41:47.880 Word?

00:41:48.920 Yeah, I mean, I think that another, maybe another hot take, but I think that if you really look back throughout history,

00:41:56.640 certainly there were ways in which women were disadvantaged in ways men weren't.

00:42:02.480 I think the big one we can all think about is the right to vote, right?

00:42:06.060 For a while there, women did not have the right to vote.

00:42:08.860 And I think women certainly should have the right to vote.

00:42:11.500 But I think what you also have to look at is the broader context of history.

00:42:17.240 And it actually wasn't, so, for example, with the right to vote,

00:42:20.060 it actually wasn't that long before women got the right to vote

00:42:24.080 that just men, broadly speaking, they couldn't vote either.

00:42:28.500 At least, I mean, it breaks down different countries and stuff.

00:42:31.180 But in the U.S., you had to be a property owner.

00:42:33.640 And then also, one of the things that's often overlooked in this discussion is the draft.

00:42:40.800 So, would you guys agree that rights come with responsibilities?

00:42:46.680 Or they should come with responsibilities?

00:42:49.320 So, one of the reasons men had the right to vote is because they were subject to the draft.

00:42:56.200 And to this day, men are still subject to the draft.

00:42:58.920 And you can say, well, there's probably not going to be another draft.

00:43:01.680 But, I mean, if you've seen what's going on in the world, things are not,

00:43:04.960 I don't think things are looking great.

00:43:07.460 So, it's certainly plausible within the next 10 or 20 years,

00:43:10.680 there certainly could be a draft in the U.S.

00:43:13.380 And, I mean, certainly in Ukraine.

00:43:15.760 Actually, they prevented men from leaving Ukraine.

00:43:18.960 If you were a man between 18 and 64, you had to stay, join the army, fight, and die here in 2022.

00:43:27.300 So, I think bringing it back to women's voting, women's suffrage,

00:43:33.880 there was, do any of you know what year it was?

00:43:36.340 1920, I believe.

00:43:37.660 That it was ratified.

00:43:40.620 Was it 1920, 1931?

00:43:42.640 It was 1920.

00:43:44.000 1920.

00:43:45.160 So, does anyone know what happened just before, like in that few years before 1920?

00:43:52.580 Big event.

00:43:54.760 Big event.

00:43:55.840 States, no.

00:43:57.740 Okay, it was World War I, 1914 to 1918.

00:44:00.600 Well, yeah, but, okay.

00:44:01.840 So, this is a bit, I'll wrap it all together.

00:44:05.600 But, so those men were allowed to vote, but they also were subject to the draft.

00:44:13.980 And, I think, in total, I don't know what the U.S. count is for World War I.

00:44:21.640 Probably a couple hundred thousand in World War I.

00:44:25.080 U.S. men died.

00:44:25.980 I think the total number, it was like 20, 30 million, maybe 20 million military casualties

00:44:31.920 for World War I.

00:44:32.940 And, probably 99.99% of those were men.

00:44:38.260 So, as, as a man still today in 2022, for us to have the right to vote, we are subject

00:44:46.960 to the draft.

00:44:48.160 We have to register for the Selective Service.

00:44:50.240 If we, if we don't, it's actually felony in the U.S. as a man to not be registered with

00:44:55.560 the Selective Service.

00:44:57.280 So, I mean.

00:44:58.980 Can I chime in?

00:45:00.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:45:00.340 Go ahead.

00:45:00.700 Okay.

00:45:01.360 Well, I'm just saying, you're saying, you know, men are subject to the draft.

00:45:07.000 You know, it's a requirement if they're drafted.

00:45:09.760 They didn't get the right to vote.

00:45:12.320 You know, it was only like property owners, whatever.

00:45:14.540 But, who created that society?

00:45:17.100 It wasn't women.

00:45:19.540 Men created that society for themselves.

00:45:23.080 You know what I mean?

00:45:24.520 Well, I would, I, it's not, I, it was men, but just because it was men, I don't think their

00:45:29.840 gender is necessarily related to the decisions that they made.

00:45:33.840 In the same way that the Supreme Court that gave you, gave, well, it's no longer the case,

00:45:39.680 but that gave us Roe v. Wade, my understanding is it was nine men who gave us the ruling on,

00:45:45.940 in Roe v. Wade.

00:45:46.780 What does, what does that mean?

00:45:48.660 Like, the men gave the women permission to choose about our own body?

00:45:52.400 Well, and it was also, broadly speaking, I think at the time in the years leading up

00:45:57.780 to 1920, it was mostly men who were in the government.

00:46:00.840 And so, if there was a patriarchy, I would challenge you and say that if, if the patriarchy is men

00:46:10.260 in this cabal, this conspiracy to oppress women, then how could, why would they have enabled

00:46:18.920 women or given women the right to vote?

00:46:22.380 I do not think the patriarchy is like men trying to suppress women.

00:46:26.940 It's not that like gender based.

00:46:30.280 It's, it's this energy that serves no one.

00:46:33.720 Like, this concept of the patriarchy, this arbitrary word, it doesn't serve any of us.

00:46:37.320 It's a gendered term.

00:46:38.440 It is a gendered term.

00:46:39.600 It is a gendered term.

00:46:40.780 Patriarchy.

00:46:41.360 Father.

00:46:41.800 Yes.

00:46:42.060 So, maybe there's another word that we get to use and you mentioned capitalism and it's

00:46:45.560 all part of it.

00:46:46.220 I think that was Samantha.

00:46:47.420 Yeah, yeah.

00:46:47.760 She, she, she's, she's a raging communist.

00:46:52.020 She's a raging communist.

00:46:53.320 Oh, you missed her laugh, Eric.

00:46:54.840 You missed the laugh, Eric.

00:46:56.480 Ha ha.

00:46:57.180 Right?

00:46:57.780 No?

00:46:58.060 No?

00:46:58.340 No?

00:46:59.060 But also, just really quickly on this note of war, like one, it's, it's, yeah, totally

00:47:04.820 here that the rights come with responsibility in this concept of like men being at war.

00:47:09.180 But while men are at war, women are often home birthing babies.

00:47:13.080 And like, that's not something that's, let's talk about the depth and challenge of that

00:47:18.060 and how that's vital to continue our species, right?

00:47:20.920 And so, I think no one should be at war.

00:47:22.500 Ultimately, like, let's end all wars on the planet because that, it's not serving anyone.

00:47:26.600 It's not serving the earth.

00:47:27.380 It's not serving our bodies.

00:47:28.320 Men, women, children, anyone.

00:47:30.200 And to just acknowledge that like, though men are fighting, women are at home caring for

00:47:34.500 children, birthing babies, surrendering to the cycles of their womb, and it's, it's

00:47:38.960 also at work.

00:47:40.080 Like, well, I, I don't think anyone would disagree with you that war is bad.

00:47:47.740 We should end war.

00:47:49.080 But I do think it's ultimately the various conflicts that arise are very nuanced and very

00:47:55.980 complicated.

00:47:56.940 Some of them are geographical.

00:47:58.760 You know, there's geographical disputes.

00:48:01.440 There's disputes about resources.

00:48:03.200 So, it's probably honest.

00:48:06.380 I, I certainly agree with you.

00:48:08.060 I'm, I think it'd be certainly wonderful if there was no war.

00:48:11.800 And we could certainly divert a lot of our resources and spending into other things like researching

00:48:18.640 and science and technology instead of spending billions of dollars on a ship or something.

00:48:24.960 But it is kind of wishful thinking because, I mean, there are genuine threats that, I mean, whichever

00:48:32.540 country you're part of, there's genuine threats from other countries.

00:48:36.480 And the only way to hold them back is to have a military.

00:48:41.780 But I agree.

00:48:42.280 Hey, wouldn't it be great if there was no war, you know?

00:48:45.660 But, yeah.

00:48:47.880 Why don't we bring it back to dating a little bit?

00:48:51.080 Yeah, we're going down the rabbit hole here.

00:48:53.040 We're going down the rabbit hole.

00:48:55.080 Actually, we'll do some super chats, some comments really quick.

00:48:59.260 And then we will bring it back to dating.

00:49:01.740 So, let's see.

00:49:03.180 I've got, let's see.

00:49:07.480 Stifler, ask the ladies to rank themselves on a scale of 1 to 10.

00:49:14.380 I guess he wants you guys to rate yourselves.

00:49:16.220 I guess that's a physical appearance.

00:49:17.800 Do you guys want to just, real quick, give your self-assessment?

00:49:21.820 Samantha?

00:49:22.620 I think I'm going to go with a solid 7.5 because, not just on looks, but, like, everything as a whole.

00:49:32.480 Like, if you're dating me.

00:49:34.080 I don't know.

00:49:34.800 No, no, no.

00:49:35.060 I guess I would give myself a 10.

00:49:37.120 Okay, I guess I'd give myself a 10.

00:49:38.380 I'll give you a 10, girl.

00:49:39.200 I'll give you a 10, too.

00:49:40.020 There's some, like, I can be a little crazy.

00:49:42.720 But, other than that, I'm a 10.

00:49:44.280 I'm a 10.

00:49:46.680 I'm a catch.

00:49:47.660 What can I say?

00:49:51.040 I guess, yeah, I'm a 10, too.

00:49:54.540 Self-love.

00:49:57.080 Yeah, I'd say a 10.

00:49:58.380 Life's too short to hate yourself.

00:49:59.900 Am I right?

00:50:00.340 10?

00:50:08.520 You don't think we're 10s?

00:50:09.600 We're all 10.

00:50:09.820 10 out of 10.

00:50:11.800 10?

00:50:12.180 Confidence codes, maybe.

00:50:12.980 It's a little bit of hubris, don't you think?

00:50:15.180 I mean.

00:50:15.860 Yes.

00:50:16.300 I mean, Samantha came in, though, with 7.5.

00:50:18.980 I'm thinking of, like, in turn.

00:50:20.940 I mean.

00:50:21.640 I guess, yeah.

00:50:22.160 Looks.

00:50:22.680 I guess in all, like, okay, okay, yeah.

00:50:25.120 I'd think of myself as a 10.

00:50:26.540 Okay, let me ask a question.

00:50:27.920 In that moment, I said 7.5.

00:50:29.880 This question sucks, by the way.

00:50:31.560 It's the worst question ever.

00:50:33.560 It just perpetuates, like, the whole, like, it just perpetuates, like, icky things.

00:50:40.040 Yeah.

00:50:40.380 And then people don't respect when you're confident about yourself.

00:50:43.260 Exactly.

00:50:43.680 Like, even that comment.

00:50:45.240 Am I allowed to say it?

00:50:46.940 People can see it.

00:50:47.920 Say what?

00:50:48.440 Stifler?

00:50:48.800 She was hotter when she was humble.

00:50:50.480 Yeah.

00:50:51.020 Why can't you just be confident?

00:50:53.020 Like, you know, like, we only have one body, one soul.

00:50:59.320 And like I said earlier, like, we are at such a good age right now, you know?

00:51:03.860 Yes.

00:51:04.060 We're cute.

00:51:04.760 We're fun.

00:51:05.320 We're young.

00:51:05.960 Yes.

00:51:06.200 Yeah.

00:51:06.660 You know, you're going to look back in, like, years, and you're going to be like, wow,

00:51:10.600 I wish I wasn't as mean to myself, or I wish I, you know, that kind of stuff.

00:51:14.840 Exactly.

00:51:14.960 And so, you know, why is that a bad thing to love yourself and think you're the coolest?

00:51:21.200 Yes.

00:51:22.020 So then I have the, it begets the question then, if you guys are tens, then do you deserve,

00:51:28.640 physically speaking?

00:51:30.040 Oh, if it's just physical speaking?

00:51:31.560 Yeah, just looks wise.

00:51:33.540 Do you then deserve a man, looks wise, who is a ten?

00:51:38.760 If you're a ten, then you surely must deserve a guy who's a ten, right?

00:51:42.780 I mean, logic, I guess.

00:51:44.340 Deserve, yeah.

00:51:44.640 Yeah, and we could choose any men, even if we don't feel like they're a ten, but I deserve

00:51:49.540 subjective.

00:51:50.320 I feel like personality plays into it, too.

00:51:52.220 Yeah.

00:51:53.280 Like, that's huge for guys.

00:51:55.480 Yeah, like, personality makes up for a lot of it.

00:51:57.420 I don't think a guy's awful.

00:51:59.700 If they're really hot, but they have a horrible personality, it wipes it away completely.

00:52:03.480 It's like, he's a blank, but a blank.

00:52:05.220 Like, he's a ten, but he can't hold a conversation.

00:52:07.680 He's a seven.

00:52:08.780 Exactly.

00:52:09.400 Like, yeah.

00:52:10.140 Wait, I've heard that.

00:52:12.160 It's like, I've seen the videos on TikTok and stuff.

00:52:14.460 So, she's a ten, or he's a ten, but.

00:52:17.180 Do you guys play that game?

00:52:18.520 Yeah.

00:52:18.820 I've done it, yeah.

00:52:19.280 Wait, so hold on.

00:52:19.980 But, so didn't you guys just like, oh, that question's kind of icky, but you just said

00:52:26.300 that you play this game where you say he's a ten, but he wears flip-flops or whatever

00:52:32.560 it is.

00:52:33.280 So, isn't that, I mean.

00:52:35.140 Wait, what?

00:52:36.440 I think we're not rating ourselves in front of people.

00:52:39.280 Yeah.

00:52:39.580 Rating ourselves is uncomfortable.

00:52:40.360 Oh, that, that's, that's uncomfortable.

00:52:42.140 On live?

00:52:42.240 Yeah.

00:52:42.760 On live.

00:52:43.320 And then being questioned like, oh, you think you're a ten, but is it just some luck?

00:52:46.280 It's like, I feel like trying to get at something that is a little.

00:52:50.320 It wasn't me, Stifler, it was Stifler in the chat.

00:52:54.340 Hey, by the way, oh, that's weird, it's not chatting.

00:52:58.660 Yeah, it was Stifler in the chat.

00:53:00.640 Okay, we'll move on.

00:53:04.560 Okay, so, wait, I have a question.

00:53:08.380 Ah, never mind, forget it, forget it.

00:53:09.820 What was it?

00:53:10.220 No, what was it?

00:53:11.120 We don't know now.

00:53:12.300 So, I was gonna ask, like, what do you think is, can you name a celebrity that you think

00:53:21.520 is like your looks equivalent?

00:53:25.720 Like a female celebrity?

00:53:27.440 No, like a male, like who would be like, okay, this guy, like, looks-wise, we're kind of on

00:53:32.140 the same page, so, like, Jason Momoa, or Timothee Chalamet, or Jason Seagal, or...

00:53:43.640 Ryan Reynolds.

00:53:47.520 Here, we'll start with Samantha.

00:53:49.840 That was quick, I know.

00:53:51.240 We're gonna start with Samantha.

00:53:52.140 Samantha, who's your looks-match male celebrity?

00:53:58.940 Is that the question?

00:53:59.880 This is so hard.

00:54:02.140 This is so hard.

00:54:07.080 Oh, my God.

00:54:09.820 Okay, I can't think of one that I look alike, but I can think of one where I'm like, okay,

00:54:14.740 we look-

00:54:14.800 Not that you look like, but-

00:54:16.000 We look good together.

00:54:17.680 That would be like, you would say you're in the same attractiveness, or-

00:54:24.540 Oh, my God.

00:54:26.480 Same league, let's just say.

00:54:28.380 Well, I don't know, because someone, okay, well, this is just my personal-

00:54:32.320 Oh, you got a celebrity DM'd you?

00:54:36.560 You had a little, you had someone slide into your DMs, a blue check mark?

00:54:40.280 Yeah, I have had that, but I can't disclose who it is.

00:54:43.980 But no, I would say, off the top of my head, honestly, since you mentioned him, I do, I think

00:54:49.340 Timolee, Timothy, oh my, Timoye, Timothy Chamlete would be similar.

00:54:54.560 Chamlete?

00:54:55.280 Chamlete?

00:54:56.840 Hamlet?

00:54:58.080 Chamalee?

00:54:58.600 Because he, because he also has that kind of like, like, he's a bit different looking.

00:55:04.160 And you're a bit different looking?

00:55:05.340 Yeah.

00:55:06.100 Like, it's not a very conventional, just one look.

00:55:10.160 I can see that.

00:55:11.020 Yeah.

00:55:11.400 Okay.

00:55:11.840 Fair enough, fair enough.

00:55:12.720 That's-

00:55:13.060 That's-

00:55:13.660 Okay.

00:55:14.400 Timothy, if you're watching, her DMs are open.

00:55:17.020 Okay.

00:55:18.020 Anna?

00:55:18.980 This question still feels in the same vein as the other one.

00:55:21.480 It's still tough.

00:55:22.760 It's a bit shallow.

00:55:23.200 It's a little, like, let's get deeper, because we're all deep here, I can feel it.

00:55:26.460 And I would say Ryan Reynolds.

00:55:27.940 Ryan Reynolds.

00:55:29.420 Yeah, he's hot.

00:55:31.100 Okay.

00:55:32.000 Ryan Reynolds.

00:55:32.680 Ryan Reynolds.

00:55:33.200 I could see that for you.

00:55:35.660 Honestly, Ryan Reynolds is a babe.

00:55:38.160 He's hot.

00:55:39.200 Shea Mitchell.

00:55:40.500 She is also beautiful.

00:55:42.000 Oh, she?

00:55:42.500 Okay.

00:55:43.000 Yeah.

00:55:43.420 I love her.

00:55:44.560 Yeah.

00:55:47.340 Dude, I don't know how to answer this.

00:55:49.120 Okay.

00:55:49.160 You can skip.

00:55:49.800 We'll skip.

00:55:52.700 I would say Miles Teller.

00:55:57.040 Miles Teller.

00:55:57.880 I think he's got kind of like a homey, like, comforting look.

00:56:03.360 Okay.

00:56:04.120 Is that funny?

00:56:05.200 Do I have a homey, comforting look?

00:56:07.160 Well, is that what you're saying about yourself?

00:56:09.120 Yeah.

00:56:09.440 Like, I think I'm, you know, like, when I look at him, he doesn't seem intimidating.

00:56:14.080 But he's also very, you know.

00:56:15.620 Seems like a good guy.

00:56:16.120 Yeah.

00:56:16.340 He's not like super male model, but he's good looking, you know.

00:56:21.140 Yeah.

00:56:21.780 Okay.

00:56:23.000 Yeah.

00:56:23.500 Got a little pushback from this one.

00:56:26.560 Well, so I guess I'm curious.

00:56:28.520 So.

00:56:30.140 Sorry, I'm reading.

00:56:31.120 Do you guys object to kind of like trying to categorize people in this way?

00:56:36.100 You know, like rating themselves?

00:56:37.240 Because I think people do.

00:56:38.260 I think realistically, a lot of people rate other people and judge.

00:56:43.400 I mean, we all kind of judge people by their appearance, you know, how tall are they?

00:56:50.080 You know, are they well-dressed?

00:56:51.780 These sorts of things.

00:56:53.120 So.

00:56:54.180 I don't think.

00:56:55.000 I don't really think there's anything wrong with rating someone or rating yourself.

00:57:00.740 But.

00:57:01.400 I mean.

00:57:01.900 It's actually funny because I was talking to this with my friend not too long ago.

00:57:05.240 You know, it's funny, like you say you want all these things, like you list out all these

00:57:09.260 things that would make someone a 10, but the person that you actually end up like dating

00:57:13.000 or loving, like a lot of that doesn't even matter.

00:57:15.740 You're not even looking at that.

00:57:16.880 Like you can't really, like for me personally, I have, like, unfortunately I cannot choose

00:57:22.000 who I've fallen in love with or who I've been in like long-term relationships with

00:57:26.380 and I've developed feelings for and all of those things that I've said, like I'd probably

00:57:30.940 rate that person like a six or a five, you know what I mean?

00:57:33.880 But I love them and that's, you know, I don't know.

00:57:38.160 So I think the whole thing of rating is like, it's only, it's such a superficial thing.

00:57:41.700 It only goes so far.

00:57:44.140 Follow-up question.

00:57:48.380 Would you guys date a short guy?

00:57:50.320 I have.

00:57:51.420 It's amazing.

00:57:52.540 You guys don't have a high preference.

00:57:54.420 Nobody at the table has a high preference.

00:57:55.800 Because if we want to talk about numbers, if we, if we want to talk about numbers, I

00:58:03.880 mean, that's a measurement right there, like a literal measurement.

00:58:08.820 So, uh, what?

00:58:09.780 Six, two and above.

00:58:11.660 Yeah.

00:58:13.200 I need to be able to wear heels and you're still taller than me.

00:58:16.500 Okay.

00:58:16.820 And how, how tall are you?

00:58:18.080 I'm like five, seven, five, seven.

00:58:19.500 Okay.

00:58:19.680 So you want a guy who's taller than you?

00:58:20.980 Yeah.

00:58:22.100 By it.

00:58:23.160 Minimum six.

00:58:23.460 Would you date a guy who's like five, nine?

00:58:27.620 So in heels, you'll be about his height or probably taller than them, depending on the

00:58:32.240 heels.

00:58:32.340 I feel like I personally wouldn't, but I know people who would.

00:58:36.120 Okay.

00:58:36.560 So you wouldn't height?

00:58:37.880 I'll tell you.

00:58:39.060 I'm five, seven as well.

00:58:40.340 Okay.

00:58:42.260 Five, eight king.

00:58:43.420 You know, I don't really, height's not a huge thing for me.

00:58:47.620 I've been with someone that was five, eight.

00:58:52.380 So I would like, like a little taller than me.

00:58:55.280 Definitely not.

00:58:57.000 What about shorter than you?

00:58:58.440 Five, five.

00:59:00.640 Five, five king.

00:59:04.080 Man, listen to chat.

00:59:05.660 Rise up.

00:59:06.980 Get the cameras.

00:59:08.720 I don't know.

00:59:09.520 I don't, I don't know.

00:59:10.520 Okay.

00:59:10.760 Fair enough.

00:59:11.360 Samantha.

00:59:12.060 Yeah.

00:59:12.420 So I'm, I'm five, two.

00:59:15.280 So I have, okay.

00:59:16.860 I think the shortest I've dated was five, eight, but to me, I mean, he was still taller than

00:59:23.520 me was what I say.

00:59:24.700 He was as tall as I would have liked.

00:59:27.000 No, but he was taller than me and I didn't really care.

00:59:30.540 So I guess hopefully that answers the question, but I dated a five, six king and it was amazing.

00:59:39.120 And I've also been with so many men and women that both shorter than me and taller than me

00:59:43.740 that I feel like less attached to the height, possibly from being with women as well and

00:59:48.360 just like feeling into the gender spectrum.

00:59:50.680 But you mean, I'm also tall and it is nice to feel like held by someone who's taller.

00:59:55.020 So I'm open word, word.

00:59:59.540 Okay.

00:59:59.880 Next chat.

01:00:00.800 Next chat.

01:00:03.680 Okay.

01:00:04.900 Robert Lewandowski's wife says, Robert, what the F are you doing in California with these

01:00:12.120 three of foes?

01:00:12.960 Hey, hold on.

01:00:13.620 Be nice.

01:00:14.700 Okay.

01:00:15.080 So I guess, um, I think that's like the calculator for a hose.

01:00:20.160 Um, be nice.

01:00:21.440 Robert Lewandowski's wife.

01:00:22.760 Um, you knew, you knew it was the calculator for a hose.

01:00:25.880 Well, I'm familiar with the term three F O three O foe four.

01:00:30.040 Um, yeah, apparently people think I look like Robert Lewandowski.

01:00:35.780 Oh my gosh.

01:00:36.760 I know who that is.

01:00:37.760 It's who is that?

01:00:39.480 I know that name.

01:00:40.480 He's a soccer player.

01:00:41.840 Okay.

01:00:42.360 Very famous, very successful.

01:00:43.900 Hold on.

01:00:44.180 I think I got something here.

01:00:45.440 I got something here for you.

01:00:46.880 Robert Lewandowski's wife.

01:00:48.580 Um, let's see.

01:00:52.940 Okay.

01:00:53.420 Or maybe this one.

01:00:59.240 Thank you for the comment, man.

01:01:01.500 Appreciate it.

01:01:02.180 I think she wants you.

01:01:03.360 I think that's why she's maybe I could be, um, console logger.

01:01:09.040 Thank you for the $2 super chat.

01:01:10.180 I appreciate the support.

01:01:11.040 Thank you, man.

01:01:12.140 She's lying.

01:01:13.220 I'm sleeping with her at the moment.

01:01:14.740 You probably sent that 40 minutes ago.

01:01:17.020 Um, so I'm not sure what the contact context of that is.

01:01:22.120 I think, was it directed at.

01:01:24.640 For our celibate queen.

01:01:26.240 When you were talking about.

01:01:27.540 Or some.

01:01:28.000 It might've been.

01:01:28.640 But I will not.

01:01:30.000 Oh, right.

01:01:30.760 When I was like, am I saying I'm kind of single.

01:01:32.780 Yeah.

01:01:33.020 I'm sleeping with you for sure.

01:01:34.660 Console logger.

01:01:35.740 Okay.

01:01:37.500 Oh, oh, oh, oh.

01:01:39.920 He came back.

01:01:41.560 He literally had to go back.

01:01:42.680 Samantha is fire.

01:01:44.020 I'm not going to lie.

01:01:45.460 Okay.

01:01:46.320 Speak your truth.

01:01:47.460 Steven Krug.

01:01:48.960 What's up, Steven?

01:01:49.720 Good to see you again, man.

01:01:50.960 Thank you for the $5 super chat.

01:01:52.480 Much appreciated.

01:01:53.380 Thank you for the support.

01:01:54.880 When hierarchies were brought up.

01:01:56.620 Anna seems very accurate.

01:01:58.860 Contrary to first impression.

01:02:00.700 Really recommend.

01:02:01.780 The elephant in the brain by Robin Hanson.

01:02:04.260 Thank you for the book recommendation, Steven.

01:02:07.960 And then he comes back.

01:02:10.360 Steven Krug with the $2 super chat.

01:02:12.780 All humans, men and women, are dominant by nature.

01:02:16.740 All humans are dominant by nature.

01:02:19.820 I'm not, Steven, I don't know if I necessarily understand or agree with that.

01:02:25.220 But are dominant by nature.

01:02:28.860 Well, maybe we can say, is one gender more dominant?

01:02:33.120 When I was talking about the domination thing.

01:02:35.460 Are we talking like personality?

01:02:37.780 Yeah, does he mean sexually?

01:02:38.680 Are we talking like dom sub?

01:02:40.220 Yeah, is that what he's getting?

01:02:41.400 Yeah, I don't know.

01:02:42.420 Because I think broadly speaking, I'd say sexually speaking, most women take the submissive role.

01:02:48.880 I don't know about that.

01:02:49.640 I would not say most, at least in the circles I mean.

01:02:54.140 So you think most, then you, when I say most, I'm saying maybe like.

01:02:57.060 Mainstream?

01:02:57.540 51% and up.

01:02:58.540 Traditional?

01:02:58.920 Okay.

01:03:00.480 Fair.

01:03:01.260 I think it's changing.

01:03:03.340 I think a lot of women are having to find themselves to be a bit more maybe assertive in certain situations.

01:03:10.640 Because we have a lot of guys just playing video games and.

01:03:14.480 Anyways, that's a whole other topic.

01:03:16.120 Okay, I think that's it for the Super Chats.

01:03:20.060 Thank you, Stephen Krug with the $2 Super Chat.

01:03:22.920 Much appreciated.

01:03:23.960 So let's bring it back to wherever we were.

01:03:27.000 We were talking about dating, right?

01:03:28.880 Does dating suck?

01:03:30.880 So I guess, let me frame this in another way.

01:03:35.880 Or no, okay.

01:03:38.680 We were talking about getting flown out at one point.

01:03:41.380 Did we go around the table on all that?

01:03:43.460 I think we.

01:03:44.220 We stopped, yeah.

01:03:45.500 So, okay, have you ever been flown out or offered, has a guy ever, maybe in your DMs, dating app?

01:03:52.100 Maybe I just don't talk to guys like across the country, though.

01:03:55.060 Okay.

01:03:56.060 What about you?

01:03:57.300 I was talking to this guy for a little bit.

01:04:01.300 And he offered to fly me out to Las Vegas.

01:04:04.100 But I ended up ghosting him.

01:04:10.980 Like, I did say yes.

01:04:12.780 And then, like, kind of, you know, a few weeks before, I kind of ghosted him because I met someone else.

01:04:18.800 And that started going well.

01:04:20.280 So, and I still feel bad for it, but no regrets.

01:04:26.840 Oops.

01:04:27.860 Okay.

01:04:29.440 Got it.

01:04:30.700 Any extravagant, maybe not flown out, but any extravagant offerings as far as a date goes?

01:04:38.980 There's offerings.

01:04:39.920 I just, I don't like.

01:04:41.040 You don't take them up?

01:04:42.300 Not really.

01:04:43.820 I feel like.

01:04:44.520 What?

01:04:45.160 Go ahead.

01:04:45.640 Go ahead.

01:04:45.860 Go ahead.

01:04:46.180 I feel like I need to, like, know a person a little bit before we even go on the first date.

01:04:51.900 Yeah.

01:04:52.500 Yeah.

01:04:53.180 Hmm.

01:04:53.860 Okay.

01:04:54.240 Okay.

01:04:55.600 So, next question.

01:04:56.880 Does dating suck more for men or for women?

01:05:06.440 Samantha.

01:05:06.960 I think it really depends on the type of person that man is and on the type of person that women is because.

01:05:13.440 Let's just say broadly speaking.

01:05:15.660 Broadly speaking.

01:05:16.160 In general.

01:05:19.520 Or we could say average woman versus average man.

01:05:24.440 Does dating suck more?

01:05:26.880 Four.

01:05:28.120 I think right now, in this day and age, it sucks more for women.

01:05:32.720 It sucks more for women.

01:05:34.080 Yeah.

01:05:35.580 Why?

01:05:38.200 I feel like men are really, and this is just me.

01:05:41.640 Like, there could be a man out there who is, would do amazing things for me and has no bad intentions whatsoever,

01:05:47.360 but I feel like I've been treated, like, in my experience, very carelessly.

01:05:51.540 Um, in the sense where I've had a man, like, okay, put effort in maybe for a year, but once

01:05:58.540 that year is over, it's like, okay, um, I'm either going to cheat on you or I'm not going

01:06:04.800 to put effort into the relationship, but I'm not even going to tell you that I'm not interested

01:06:08.260 anymore.

01:06:08.780 So it's up to me to get up and leave and same thing.

01:06:11.480 So they're just kind of keeping you around.

01:06:12.860 Yeah.

01:06:12.900 And same thing with even just on dates, like got, like, even if you're just dating and you're

01:06:16.640 not really in a relationship, I feel like guys don't have, like, for me, if I don't

01:06:22.660 like you, you'll know, and I'll tell you, but guys have this weird, yeah.

01:06:26.700 I mean, like, I guess if I don't want to go on a date with someone, I will say straight

01:06:31.460 up, I do not want to go on a date with you.

01:06:33.340 And they know that they're not going to go on a date with me.

01:06:35.320 They know that they're not going to see me again.

01:06:37.300 But with guys, I feel like it gets, like, they could lead you on for so long and then

01:06:43.560 it's just a careless thing.

01:06:46.480 Or they're seeing someone I've had, I've had a guy and I maybe saw him for four months

01:06:51.720 and he was seeing someone else the entire time.

01:06:54.340 He had a whole girlfriend and I don't know.

01:06:58.360 I just.

01:06:59.860 Did you have a discussion with him though?

01:07:01.900 Was there an understanding that you guys were going to be monogamous?

01:07:04.140 Yeah, there was a mutual understanding where I completely thought that he was only seeing

01:07:07.900 me.

01:07:09.640 So, and I think also like the dating app, social media, it all plays a role in it.

01:07:13.760 They think that they have so many people at their disposal at all times and they forget.

01:07:19.280 I don't know.

01:07:20.120 I don't know what it is.

01:07:22.040 It's so frustrating.

01:07:24.260 I don't.

01:07:25.120 But I think because of those things and because that's been so normalized, I think it does suck

01:07:32.100 more for women now because I do want to get treated nice.

01:07:36.340 Like, just like the same effort that I'm putting in a relationship, I want that back.

01:07:39.580 And for some reason, guys can't really, they don't even have that decency.

01:07:45.100 But again, that's my experience.

01:07:46.980 I'm sure there's someone out there that does.

01:07:48.820 But for right now, that's where I'm at.

01:07:52.660 So your firsthand experience has not been great.

01:07:58.400 No.

01:07:59.080 And then I've also had guys who are amazing and I'm sure that they would treat me amazing,

01:08:03.660 but I don't have feelings for them.

01:08:04.940 That is the crux.

01:08:09.520 I don't know where that comes from.

01:08:10.960 And so you're just, you're not attracted to them.

01:08:15.880 Yeah.

01:08:16.320 Well, isn't it interesting that the guys that you end up with or that you're attracted

01:08:24.500 to happen to be the guys that you say they're not treating you well or they're kind of playing

01:08:32.980 you.

01:08:33.360 Right, or they don't fall in line with standards, things like that.

01:08:35.260 Okay.

01:08:36.220 It's weird.

01:08:36.940 It's almost like a, I do like a bit of a chase.

01:08:42.120 Okay.

01:08:42.880 So they're, would you say they're exciting?

01:08:44.880 Yes.

01:08:45.140 These men.

01:08:45.600 Yes, I would say that they're exciting.

01:08:47.060 Would you say they're jerks?

01:08:48.540 Yes, I would say that they're jerks.

01:08:49.220 Are you attracted to jerks?

01:08:52.600 I like a little bit of attitude.

01:08:54.720 I like a little, I mean.

01:08:57.060 Or a bad boy.

01:08:59.120 Do you like bad boys?

01:09:02.060 Yes.

01:09:03.060 Okay.

01:09:04.400 Is it plot?

01:09:05.280 So, sorry, go ahead.

01:09:06.460 Keep going.

01:09:07.820 I had nothing else after that.

01:09:09.580 Well, I was just going to, I was going to ask, you mentioned that there were guys who

01:09:14.360 they were interested in you.

01:09:15.920 Yeah.

01:09:16.360 And you had the impression that they would actually be perfectly dutiful boyfriends.

01:09:21.160 Yes.

01:09:21.680 But you're just not attracted to them.

01:09:25.120 Absolutely.

01:09:26.140 A hundred percent.

01:09:26.660 Do you think that, do you think there's a way to reconcile that to being like, well,

01:09:30.960 they're not quite exciting, but maybe.

01:09:33.140 Yes.

01:09:33.700 And I've heard like the term, like I've heard the term, like you don't always end up with

01:09:37.960 your soulmate.

01:09:39.820 But I mean, like I, I don't.

01:09:41.520 There's not really soulmates.

01:09:42.340 I'm not soulmate, but I guess.

01:09:43.660 Okay.

01:09:43.960 Yeah.

01:09:44.100 I don't agree with the idea of a soulmate either, but I guess it was the idea like,

01:09:49.200 okay, if you're going to be with someone in a very long-term thing, like such as marriage,

01:09:53.700 like be with someone that, you know, for the long-term is going to be good for you versus

01:09:59.060 that excitement at the beginning.

01:10:02.080 But I don't know if I agree.

01:10:03.820 I don't know.

01:10:04.820 So let me ask you a question.

01:10:06.120 Um, is the biggest problem that you're encountering with the men that you're attracted to and

01:10:15.780 that you're dating, you said there was like a guy for four months, maybe there was a guy

01:10:19.740 for a year is the biggest thing that you're encountering that they are not really committing

01:10:25.540 to you.

01:10:26.280 Like they're players and they're just, there's other women in the picture.

01:10:30.760 But also to what you said, playing the game is a big thing because when I don't play the

01:10:35.100 game, I noticed that I get played.

01:10:36.580 But when I do play the game, I noticed that I almost can kind of curate a relationship

01:10:41.300 with a man if I play it the right way.

01:10:44.160 And it's such a funny thing.

01:10:45.620 What does that mean when you play the game?

01:10:47.320 When you're playing the game, what does that mean?

01:10:48.820 Like, let's say they message, they text me, like, I'm not going to respond right away.

01:10:52.800 I'm going to make them think that I have better things.

01:10:55.540 I mean, obviously I do have better things to do than respond to them, but I'm going to make

01:10:58.580 them think that I could care less whether I see them again or whether I think,

01:11:04.660 things like that.

01:11:06.080 It's like, I need them to know that I don't need them more than they need me.

01:11:12.360 And that's a part of the game a little bit because guys, when they feel, I don't know,

01:11:17.860 I actually can't speak on that.

01:11:19.520 When they feel what?

01:11:20.620 No, go ahead.

01:11:20.940 I feel like when they feel like, oh, woman is, oh my God, she's investing all this time

01:11:24.680 in me.

01:11:25.280 She's expecting these things from me.

01:11:26.840 They get really intimidated and they start to sort of run away from you and they feel insecure.

01:11:30.960 So now they're talking to other women and they're doing anything they can to run away

01:11:36.480 from either having feelings for you if they do or having the responsibility of letting

01:11:44.340 you down.

01:11:45.700 So do you think, and nevermind, go ahead.

01:11:52.700 So well said, you put that into words so beautifully and yes, energies that I've felt so deeply

01:11:58.640 as well.

01:11:59.860 But to answer this question, well, I feel like we're assuming heteronormativity.

01:12:04.340 So just to present that when the question is dating suck more from a woman.

01:12:08.680 Yeah, let's, I mean, yeah, we can keep it just within the confines of straight.

01:12:12.660 Um, I kind of have two answers to this because I feel like in, uh, I love being a woman and

01:12:19.140 I love, yeah, being a woman who's dating and single and like just in my central expression.

01:12:23.720 And I feel that, um, even with the unsafety of women in some situations and just the, the

01:12:31.200 misogyny, et cetera, I feel that there's this like pulse of the goddess that men feel.

01:12:37.620 What?

01:12:38.580 The goddess?

01:12:39.900 The goddess.

01:12:40.560 Who is?

01:12:41.260 The goddess.

01:12:41.980 Eris.

01:12:42.800 Is that Eris?

01:12:44.080 Eros?

01:12:44.540 Eros.

01:12:45.420 When I say the goddess, it's like this energy that's within all of us for sure.

01:12:49.320 But it's this like feminine radiance that men or anyone can feel.

01:12:55.480 And, and there's this like, it's an aura.

01:12:57.500 It's an aura.

01:12:58.540 It's like, okay.

01:12:59.340 Like the concept, if we're going to like break it down a bit, it's like how women can get

01:13:03.620 in free at many clubs and men can't kind of thing.

01:13:06.300 That's an aura thing.

01:13:07.280 I thought that was just a hot chick thing.

01:13:09.620 Exactly.

01:13:10.140 Hot chick thing.

01:13:10.800 Okay.

01:13:10.980 So we're talking like goddesses, right?

01:13:13.160 God.

01:13:13.560 Okay.

01:13:13.940 So is goddess like a physical, like they're just.

01:13:16.320 Like we're all goddesses here.

01:13:18.280 Myself included?

01:13:19.380 Am I a goddess?

01:13:20.180 If you want to be a goddess, you can be.

01:13:22.040 Fuck yeah.

01:13:22.860 What about, what about Kiki?

01:13:24.220 Definitely a goddess.

01:13:24.740 Over here.

01:13:25.180 She's a goddess.

01:13:26.080 Yes.

01:13:26.300 Yeah.

01:13:26.620 She's a bit, she's a bit shy, but she's a goddess.

01:13:30.100 So, okay.

01:13:31.280 So in my subjective answer, two answers that in the mainstream communities, I feel like

01:13:35.380 dating sucks a bit more for men.

01:13:37.460 And there's like a lot of, there's pressure and like, there's, Oh, how do I, you know,

01:13:41.100 what do I do?

01:13:41.560 And I have to end the responsibility.

01:13:42.480 And do I pay him?

01:13:43.220 Do I have to have the master plan?

01:13:44.220 All this stuff.

01:13:45.080 But in the spiritual circles that I'm in, I feel like, as I was saying at the beginning,

01:13:49.780 there's this like limited amount of conscious men.

01:13:52.500 And so it sucks more for women who are looking for men, but like for myself, who's into men

01:13:57.020 and women, it's, it's awesome.

01:13:58.460 But as I am calling right now, my life partner into my field, who I, I do want to be a man.

01:14:04.020 I feel this, this thing of like, there are so many conscious women out there and all

01:14:07.680 these men who are like taken by the conscious women, but there are a finite amount of conscious

01:14:12.300 men.

01:14:13.180 And there are so many more that are like waking up and growing and yeah.

01:14:17.520 So that question has like a few different answers based on the circles that you're in.

01:14:23.240 Okay.

01:14:24.280 Good answer.

01:14:25.060 Good answer.

01:14:25.580 I kind of also don't have a direct answer.

01:14:27.840 Like I could see both sides for women.

01:14:29.980 If they really wanted to like just go on a date with a random guy, like they could easily

01:14:34.320 on any dating app.

01:14:35.360 But like, we're also subject to like, not like fear, but you don't know the guy.

01:14:40.560 So like, it's like danger.

01:14:42.120 And then like, I don't know, it's a little scarier for women, but maybe I could see like

01:14:47.320 for men, it's harder to find like a girl that will agree to go on a date with them.

01:14:53.740 But yeah, that's just my stance though.

01:14:58.100 I feel like dating is definitely hard in this digital age.

01:15:02.680 I think a lot of things are more superficial on both sides.

01:15:10.060 Jeez.

01:15:10.640 I don't know.

01:15:12.240 I'd say there definitely is a lot more, I don't know more, but there is a lot of pressure

01:15:18.220 on men, like financially, definitely.

01:15:21.880 So like paying for the first date, for example.

01:15:27.260 Okay.

01:15:27.460 Yeah.

01:15:27.760 Anything else?

01:15:32.240 It's not, I didn't mean to cut you off.

01:15:33.740 It sounded like you had a few other things to add to that.

01:15:35.900 No, yeah.

01:15:36.280 I definitely think there's pressure on both sides.

01:15:40.260 Yeah.

01:15:41.000 Okay.

01:15:42.640 Any, any other examples you can think of?

01:15:47.840 Hmm.

01:15:49.340 Ladies.

01:15:50.940 Of how there's more pressure for men?

01:15:52.480 Yeah.

01:15:53.060 I mean, sexually, I feel like.

01:15:55.420 Yeah.

01:15:56.320 But I don't know.

01:15:57.740 Go into that a bit.

01:15:58.800 Go, okay.

01:15:59.280 Well, I mean, just as I said that, I was like, is there, but I mean, like I want, if I'm with

01:16:04.740 a man, like he needs to go down on me before he needs to, he needs to, he needs to, like

01:16:10.500 to, he needs to like fully like worship me as a goddess, taste my yoni before entering

01:16:14.960 me.

01:16:15.020 Your, huh?

01:16:16.780 Huh?

01:16:17.260 My yoni.

01:16:17.540 Your what?

01:16:18.160 My yoni.

01:16:18.940 Yoni.

01:16:19.500 Yoni.

01:16:19.820 Is that like.

01:16:20.400 It's a Sanskrit word for vagina.

01:16:23.460 Your yoni.

01:16:24.200 Okay.

01:16:24.500 Yes.

01:16:24.800 My yoni.

01:16:25.500 Sanskrit.

01:16:26.240 Sanskrit word.

01:16:27.120 And it's, yeah.

01:16:28.280 It means.

01:16:28.580 What is Sanskrit for peen?

01:16:30.680 You know, I don't know.

01:16:31.840 You don't.

01:16:32.120 I don't speak Sanskrit, unfortunately.

01:16:34.000 Okay.

01:16:34.320 Certain words.

01:16:35.320 Got it.

01:16:35.600 But it means source of all of life.

01:16:37.760 Because we all came through the yoni.

01:16:39.420 We all came through the yoni.

01:16:40.900 Unless we had a C-section.

01:16:42.060 Yoni, yoni, yoni.

01:16:45.000 So the guy has to go down on you.

01:16:47.280 Must.

01:16:48.320 Must the first time, like in a sexual experience.

01:16:51.100 The first time he has to go down on you.

01:16:53.640 Yes.

01:16:54.320 Yes.

01:16:55.700 And I've been with men who.

01:16:56.620 Do you reciprocate?

01:16:57.860 Often.

01:16:58.740 Yeah.

01:16:59.360 Often.

01:17:00.100 Yeah.

01:17:00.340 The lingam is powerful.

01:17:02.220 And like, I enjoy worshiping the lingam.

01:17:04.560 Okay.

01:17:04.860 And I do feel like.

01:17:05.480 The hum?

01:17:06.360 The lingam.

01:17:07.660 Ma'am, this is an English speaking podcast.

01:17:10.840 I am using these words to reclaim the power.

01:17:13.020 Wait, the lingam?

01:17:14.040 The lingam, yes.

01:17:15.040 Penis.

01:17:15.760 That's the penis?

01:17:16.580 Yes, that's the penis.

01:17:17.340 We have yoni and lingam.

01:17:18.680 Lingam.

01:17:19.020 Oh.

01:17:20.460 Okay.

01:17:20.860 To make them sacred.

01:17:21.760 Because the lingam holds the seed of life.

01:17:23.900 And the yoni holds the blood of life.

01:17:26.000 The womb space.

01:17:26.640 And so that's what.

01:17:27.560 That's how we're all here.

01:17:28.600 And to just like bring some sacredness to the realms of sexuality.

01:17:32.500 So.

01:17:32.840 So the guy's got to go down on you.

01:17:34.180 Yes.

01:17:34.580 Must.

01:17:35.800 Must.

01:17:36.360 Okay.

01:17:36.600 Not every time for it.

01:17:37.960 But I just need to know like, hey, you're worshiping me as a goddess.

01:17:40.660 And like you see me before you're trying to enter me without like looking and really like honoring this portal.

01:17:46.620 Rather than just like, oh, this feels good.

01:17:48.060 There's a hole.

01:17:48.520 Let me just like go inside of you.

01:17:49.960 What if a guy.

01:17:52.300 Is like.

01:17:53.760 Hey, maybe next time.

01:17:55.540 Is it just.

01:17:56.200 You're not even.

01:17:56.780 You're.

01:17:57.100 It's not going to happen.

01:17:58.020 Give a little more context.

01:17:59.880 Like where are we in the interaction.

01:18:01.580 First.

01:18:01.700 First time being intimate together.

01:18:04.760 And he's like, listen, rather wait until we're in.

01:18:08.740 Either he's.

01:18:09.620 Okay.

01:18:10.000 I'll.

01:18:10.500 I'll give two scenarios.

01:18:11.860 Either he just says point blank.

01:18:13.640 I don't like doing that.

01:18:14.880 I don't want to do that.

01:18:15.880 Or he says.

01:18:17.980 I'm.

01:18:19.180 I'll do that, but I want to be in a relationship with you first.

01:18:22.380 Like more serious before I do that.

01:18:24.980 Well, what would he do otherwise?

01:18:26.720 Like we're just going to kiss and do nothing else.

01:18:29.340 There's hands.

01:18:30.660 Right.

01:18:31.000 Toys.

01:18:31.760 You could throw some toys in there.

01:18:34.200 Is the yoni against the toy?

01:18:35.720 Like can you use toys with the yoni?

01:18:37.180 Nothing can enter.

01:18:38.220 You can.

01:18:38.760 You can.

01:18:39.140 Absolutely.

01:18:39.560 Like crystal wands, jade eggs, like anything.

01:18:42.100 Dildos, whatever.

01:18:43.480 Vibrator.

01:18:44.260 Yeah.

01:18:44.780 Vibrator.

01:18:45.320 Okay.

01:18:45.500 Crystal wands are my favorite because you like feel that energy deeply.

01:18:49.300 But if he was like, I'm not into that, then that would be a total red flag.

01:18:54.800 Because I'm like, if you're not into.

01:18:55.840 Red flag.

01:18:57.140 If he won't go down on you.

01:18:58.880 Yeah.

01:18:59.440 If you're like, I'm not into going down on you.

01:19:01.560 I'm like, this is like the portal of life.

01:19:03.820 This is the portal of life.

01:19:05.260 So it's important to me that you are willing to worship this part of me.

01:19:09.300 Okay.

01:19:09.780 So red flag.

01:19:10.880 Red flag.

01:19:11.400 If he's like, I want to leave a little bit.

01:19:13.540 Red flag or just like a preference thing?

01:19:15.320 For me.

01:19:16.180 I'm not saying for others.

01:19:17.400 This is like my, for my preferences.

01:19:19.460 But I feel like red flag sort of, red flag is like, this would be an indicator that there's

01:19:24.800 something else wrong with them.

01:19:26.180 Whereas I, to me.

01:19:27.380 Right.

01:19:28.420 To me, that'd more so be like a lack of matching on a preference.

01:19:36.320 I don't know.

01:19:36.800 Well, I don't know.

01:19:37.780 It depends how, how you define what a red flag is.

01:19:40.240 I wouldn't, if a girl is like, hey, I don't really like doing that.

01:19:42.700 It's not, it wouldn't be a red flag where I'm like, okay, there's something else wrong

01:19:46.760 with her.

01:19:47.340 You know, because you can look at a red flag like in a behavior and be like, okay, they

01:19:52.100 did this.

01:19:54.000 That's a bad look for down the line.

01:19:56.660 But anyways, I'm kind of derailing here.

01:19:58.620 No, this is a good point.

01:20:00.060 I do, but okay.

01:20:01.180 Can I say one thing on the red flag?

01:20:01.500 No, but I totally respect, that's totally your preference.

01:20:04.820 Well, and on that note too, it's like, if a girl said, I don't want to go down on a

01:20:10.840 man, I don't think that's a red flag because we, and the reason for that.

01:20:14.600 Double standard?

01:20:15.320 Hello?

01:20:15.520 Yes.

01:20:16.000 And if I think of how many men in high school that I just went down on and they never like,

01:20:20.980 like got anywhere near my yoni unless they were going to like go inside of me.

01:20:23.980 Did you refer to it to a yoni when you were in high school?

01:20:26.440 No, I did not.

01:20:26.680 This is a new thing.

01:20:27.400 No, what a yoni was.

01:20:28.160 So, so it's like a revenge.

01:20:29.960 So it's like, we already covered this earlier in the topic of like the, the double standards

01:20:36.480 that have happened.

01:20:36.960 So maybe there's sexual trauma that would prevent a woman from going down on a man to

01:20:40.700 like enjoy that and, and it, and feel like she's in the worship of it.

01:20:44.680 Right.

01:20:44.980 So you're saying there was like a past history where the man was not reciprocating thus in,

01:20:51.920 in her future relationships, it's not, it might bring up trauma for a woman to be going

01:20:57.820 down on a man because it could bring up trauma from a time when it, she felt like she had

01:21:03.540 to, should that man accept that.

01:21:06.060 I think that it depends on if they want to be in a deep relationship together.

01:21:10.060 If they do, then yes, they get to work with that and it can shift.

01:21:13.780 And cause all my work is about sexual healing.

01:21:15.520 So this is all, it can all shift.

01:21:17.260 But I'm just trying to understand the whole red flag, if the guy doesn't want to go down

01:21:22.040 on the girl, not a red flag.

01:21:24.540 If wait, did that mix that up?

01:21:26.800 Not a red flag.

01:21:27.700 If the girl doesn't want to go down on the guy.

01:21:30.060 So the reason that I use this term red flag and if a guy doesn't want to go down on a

01:21:35.680 girl, it's not like red flag, he's canceled.

01:21:38.020 It's like in my realm, I want to be met by someone who's like ready to fully meet me there.

01:21:44.380 Sure. And the reason that I say it's a red flag, if he's like, I'm just not into that

01:21:47.660 ever, then I would get curious about what in this person's reality is making them afraid

01:21:55.940 to like really surrender to the goddess.

01:21:59.820 Word. So, okay.

01:22:01.720 But I'm just trying to understand the double standard component.

01:22:05.000 Right.

01:22:05.300 So, and it's not so much the red flag part.

01:22:08.380 It's totally, if the girl doesn't want to go down on the guy, fine.

01:22:14.380 But if the guy doesn't want to go down on the girl, not fine.

01:22:17.580 And are you speaking just for you or are you speaking like for all women?

01:22:21.700 This is a good question.

01:22:22.840 So at first it was for me and now, okay.

01:22:25.040 Okay.

01:22:25.300 So ultimately the double standards do get to die, right?

01:22:28.860 Like, and preferences get to exist.

01:22:31.000 Maybe there is a man and woman, neither of them want to be going down on, right?

01:22:34.160 So we all get to like have our sexual preferences.

01:22:35.900 It's not about like, this is what, this is what sex should be.

01:22:38.960 No, it's like we get to explore that and find our matches with others.

01:22:42.020 So that's why I was like, for me, it's a red flag, but the double standard,

01:22:45.360 the reason that I feel that it's like,

01:22:47.400 as we're coming out of this space of like inequality between men and women,

01:22:53.320 there's also a big orgasm gap and men often just not all men,

01:22:58.020 but often just like coming really quickly and women not.

01:23:01.500 And of course that can be totally flipped, you know,

01:23:03.680 so not making blatant statements, but there is this orgasm gap.

01:23:06.360 And it's important that that also gets to be acknowledged and healed.

01:23:09.820 And so there's a book called She Comes First that I would highly recommend

01:23:12.920 for any heterosexual man to read.

01:23:14.540 It's great.

01:23:15.200 And it talks about the pleasures of giving cunnilingus

01:23:17.380 and really having that as a way to like soften, open, relax before penetration happens.

01:23:22.460 I wait just to bounce off of that.

01:23:24.680 Like, especially when you mentioned high school, like high school sexual relations.

01:23:28.360 Like I knew boys that didn't even know girls could finish.

01:23:33.860 Like it's so, it's so foreign to them when they're exploring their sexuality.

01:23:39.340 Like it's very centered around the male experience.

01:23:41.940 And I remember, I remember, you know, when you're, when you're hooking up with a guy,

01:23:46.920 you know, in high school, you're pretty new to things.

01:23:49.300 Like you're like, okay, I have to give him oral sex, but you never expect it back.

01:23:55.240 Like at least in my experience and in my friends' experiences.

01:23:57.660 And a lot of the times I would hear, oh, like from guys, like, oh, a girl has to go down on me,

01:24:03.460 but I'm not doing that.

01:24:04.520 Like that's gross.

01:24:06.300 And that, that's a popular sentiment for sure.

01:24:10.500 Like I can't speak for everyone, but it's something I've heard so many times

01:24:14.540 from so many different people.

01:24:16.000 And that's definitely affected the female sexual experience.

01:24:19.440 Like I know that women, by the time it comes, when a man goes down on her,

01:24:24.600 they feel uncomfortable or gross or like icky or self-conscious.

01:24:28.920 And that's a very common thing that, you know, I feel like generally males don't share.

01:24:38.100 Yeah.

01:24:38.860 Yeah.

01:24:39.500 It's such a hard thing.

01:24:40.040 Samantha, come on in on this one.

01:24:40.960 It's such a hard thing because I feel the same way.

01:24:42.900 I didn't even realize, um, I was like, oh, it'll never happen to me.

01:24:47.900 It'll never happen to me.

01:24:48.800 Okay.

01:24:49.240 Well, like I, like me and like a whole group of girls were talking and they were like,

01:24:52.740 okay, you need to do this.

01:24:53.800 And I did that.

01:24:55.460 Wait, what will never happen to you?

01:24:57.300 Like I completely thought I was not capable of having an orgasm.

01:24:59.920 Oh, of coming.

01:25:00.700 Okay.

01:25:00.940 And that was maybe, I was like, how old?

01:25:02.720 I was like 19.

01:25:03.760 I was like, yeah, I was 19.

01:25:07.300 And then, um, I was able to do it to myself, but even when a guy would try, it was like,

01:25:14.000 you're saying, it was so uncomfortable.

01:25:15.660 There was no way I could relax enough for that to even happen.

01:25:18.560 And I still like, that's still a struggle today.

01:25:22.480 May not, I mean, okay.

01:25:24.740 There's a lot of guys who just don't know what they're doing, but then there's also a lot

01:25:28.760 of guys who won't even take the time with you.

01:25:30.920 Yeah.

01:25:31.160 And then there's a lot of guys in when they don't take the time with me, there's no way

01:25:34.260 I'm going to relax.

01:25:34.980 There's absolutely no way.

01:25:36.220 So it just can't happen.

01:25:37.620 And then that is frustrating for me because we're not even, I mean, yeah, we're both

01:25:42.640 having fun, but you experience something completely different.

01:25:46.420 Yeah.

01:25:46.800 And it kind of just feels like you're a body.

01:25:49.380 Yes.

01:25:49.680 It feels really frustrating afterwards.

01:25:52.940 And it's.

01:25:54.560 And relaxation is the first, the first step to orgasm experience safety and relaxation.

01:25:59.840 That's what leads us there.

01:26:01.500 Do you want to come in on this?

01:26:02.760 Yeah, sure.

01:26:03.180 I also think like I get the awkwardness, like I've only, I haven't had sex like that

01:26:08.300 many times.

01:26:08.800 I only have two bodies, but I feel like.

01:26:11.600 Were they boyfriends?

01:26:12.500 Like long-term?

01:26:13.780 No.

01:26:14.540 Just one night?

01:26:15.880 Not one night.

01:26:16.960 But like casual, maybe a couple of weeks or.

01:26:19.500 Yeah.

01:26:20.460 Two.

01:26:20.780 Okay.

01:26:21.220 Wow.

01:26:22.420 Why are you surprised?

01:26:23.840 No, just.

01:26:27.400 Congrats.

01:26:28.060 Okay.

01:26:28.280 Okay.

01:26:28.860 Thanks.

01:26:29.920 Keep going.

01:26:30.600 Um, but yeah, I feel like a lot of guys, like once they're done, they don't really care

01:26:36.520 about you.

01:26:37.800 If that makes sense.

01:26:39.180 Yeah.

01:26:39.660 Oh, like once the guys come.

01:26:41.000 Once he's done, like he's just like, okay, here's the towel.

01:26:43.800 Yeah.

01:26:44.140 You know?

01:26:44.860 Well, I, I mean, I, to come to men's defense.

01:26:47.740 Okay.

01:26:48.320 When we orgasm as men, it's a wrap.

01:26:51.760 Like we cannot physically continue.

01:26:54.760 But there's other ways.

01:26:55.640 No, we can't, you know, there's, there's hands.

01:26:58.380 True.

01:26:59.380 Fully.

01:27:00.580 99.

01:27:00.900 When you run your sexuality and have full body organs.

01:27:02.880 Listen, the heart chakras.

01:27:04.280 If you're doing the meditation, you can, you can bust three nuts in a row.

01:27:08.740 I don't know.

01:27:09.440 But 99% of men, they come like there's a refractory period, at least like they're out of the game

01:27:16.100 for 30 minutes, at least.

01:27:19.000 So.

01:27:19.640 Yeah.

01:27:20.280 I understand.

01:27:20.940 Men's defense, but there's, but I agree with her.

01:27:25.540 She has to come first.

01:27:27.240 I'm, if I'm with a girl, she's coming first at least a couple of times, if I can do it.

01:27:31.800 But then it becomes a goal.

01:27:33.000 It's so nuanced.

01:27:33.620 Cause it's like, if I can do it at least a couple of times, like a baseball game, you know?

01:27:36.880 No, I mean, I didn't mean you, but like.

01:27:38.900 I'm not thinking of it in that terms, but like.

01:27:41.100 And then I can put pressure on her.

01:27:42.320 So it's like very, it's tender.

01:27:44.220 Okay.

01:27:44.560 Let's go back to the.

01:27:46.440 So I do want to go around the table on this.

01:27:48.900 We'll start over here.

01:27:52.960 Deal breaker if a guy doesn't want to go down on you.

01:27:57.320 Well, are they not going down on me because they're not comfortable with me yet?

01:28:02.280 Or they think that it's gross?

01:28:06.420 I'm not sure quite what their reason would be.

01:28:09.700 Maybe some guys just don't like it, but it's not a gross thing.

01:28:14.260 They just don't like doing it.

01:28:16.100 Maybe it's a sexual hangup.

01:28:18.780 It could also just be that they want to wait until they're more serious with you.

01:28:25.800 I've heard that from both men and women.

01:28:27.500 They're like, well, for that, I'd rather wait until I'm, you know, in a relationship.

01:28:33.580 Like that's, I've heard that.

01:28:34.680 So, yeah, I feel like I can't expect to have my boundaries respected if I don't respect their boundaries as well.

01:28:43.020 So if they're uncomfortable, thanks.

01:28:46.160 If they're uncomfortable, you know, then I have to respect that.

01:28:52.140 But I would be a little uneasy if they made that clear with me and then asked me to give them oral sex.

01:28:59.860 Yeah.

01:29:02.080 So, yeah, that's a tricky, that's a tricky one.

01:29:07.000 Yeah, I don't know if it's a deal breaker.

01:29:09.440 I don't think it would be.

01:29:10.480 But, like, hopefully in the future, like, if we get to know each other more than he would.

01:29:15.780 I don't know.

01:29:16.840 Okay.

01:29:17.880 We kind of got your take.

01:29:19.060 Well, let's bring it over to Samantha.

01:29:20.580 Yeah, I'm kind of on the same boat with you.

01:29:23.860 It's like, okay, first of all, why?

01:29:26.100 Number two, of course, I'll respect it, but is that something that's going to be a forever thing?

01:29:30.600 Because if it is, then what is, like, I can't really see a relationship where that's not happening because, I mean, like, I guess I could ask the guy the same question.

01:29:43.880 Could you see a relationship with me if I didn't want to do that to you?

01:29:46.740 Yeah.

01:29:47.340 Real reverse.

01:29:48.300 I'm curious when you said, like, people want to just do that in a relationship, are these people that you're talking about, they're, like, they want to have just, like, penetrative sex, but not do oral sex?

01:29:59.460 So, yeah, I mean, I suppose that they say for this sexual act, giving head, I'd want to wait until I'm in a relationship, but maybe they say, okay, well, sex is fine, but maybe this, maybe they view oral as more intimate in a way, and in some ways it is, than penetrative sex.

01:30:24.660 Wait, so in the scenario, is the guy telling her to go down on him or no?

01:30:28.100 I mean, that's certainly something that could be negotiated.

01:30:31.300 I don't necessarily think that if one partner in a relationship has a preference or boundary, that then the other partner then has to say, well, if you won't do it for me, I won't do it for you.

01:30:46.080 Because to me, that seems a bit, I understand it.

01:30:49.720 I would understand it, but I don't think it should necessarily preclude you from wanting to do it in the same way that, like, I'm trying to think of an example here.

01:31:00.080 If a guy, hmm, let me ask, who here would be not interested in having anal sex?

01:31:15.020 Not interested?

01:31:15.560 Anal sex.

01:31:16.540 Would not want to have anal sex?

01:31:19.880 I guess?

01:31:21.500 Wait, what?

01:31:22.880 I'm like this.

01:31:23.900 I'm open.

01:31:24.360 Okay, so, but that's a scenario where, let's say the guy wanted it, though, but you didn't want it, right?

01:31:36.580 But so that is your boundary.

01:31:38.400 You're like, I don't want to do it, and then that's how it is, you know?

01:31:41.720 So, but that wouldn't necessarily, I feel like this isn't a great example.

01:31:45.840 But I don't think it necessarily, like, I don't think it has to be a situation where you're like, you won't do this, so I won't do that.

01:31:57.080 If you won't go down on me, I won't go down.

01:31:58.320 Transactional?

01:31:59.240 Yeah, like, you could, if the guy had, like, he just genuinely did not like doing it, maybe he had a neck problem.

01:32:08.520 But that's why it's the red flag, because if he genuinely doesn't like it, what, is he afraid of women?

01:32:13.360 Is he disgusted by the yoni?

01:32:14.480 Why is he disgusted by the yoni?

01:32:15.860 Is he disgusted by moonblood?

01:32:17.000 Like, what is he afraid of, would be my question.

01:32:19.680 And so, if, and because this is, I have leg hair, and I've been with a lot of men who, that freaks them out.

01:32:24.460 Yes, a lot of leg hair.

01:32:25.480 Wait, do you want to, to the camera, do you want to show?

01:32:28.220 My leg, oh, I can show my armpits.

01:32:30.320 I hear my armpits.

01:32:31.200 Should I show my leg hair?

01:32:32.560 We'll just assume.

01:32:33.580 We'll take your word for it.

01:32:34.820 We're going to take your word for it.

01:32:36.080 Guys, visualize if you want.

01:32:37.640 There's a lot of leg hair.

01:32:38.180 She's, okay, so you're, you're a, nature, there's a term for it.

01:32:43.340 Natural?

01:32:45.860 My natural body?

01:32:47.520 There's, like, a specific term.

01:32:48.780 It's not coming to me.

01:32:49.500 It doesn't really matter.

01:32:50.940 Wait, so what was your question?

01:32:52.320 So, for my thing, with the red flag thing, it was, like, and I brought up the leg hair,

01:32:56.540 because if a man, and I've been with men who are, like, I can't because of your leg hair,

01:33:02.000 and I'm, like, okay, cool.

01:33:03.180 Do your thing.

01:33:03.800 Find, you know, someone else.

01:33:05.080 I'll find someone else.

01:33:05.620 And I've been with men who are, like, this is new for me.

01:33:07.960 I've never been with a woman who has this much leg hair, and it can bring up X, Y, Z.

01:33:12.880 But if I'm with a man who's willing to, like, work with that, the fears arise, and maybe they

01:33:17.560 feel emasculated.

01:33:18.360 Maybe they feel ashamed.

01:33:19.160 Maybe they feel confused about their sexuality or confused about gender.

01:33:21.880 And if they're willing to, like, work with that, and then can, like, lean into the turn-on

01:33:25.660 that's there, then I'm, like, okay, I'm open.

01:33:27.680 And similarly with cunnilingus, if someone was, like, I'm not into that, but I'm willing

01:33:32.660 to work with that fear and lean into it, then it's, like, okay, I'm down.

01:33:37.700 Question.

01:33:38.420 Yeah.

01:33:38.740 When is the last time that you shaved your legs?

01:33:42.900 Just out of curiosity.

01:33:44.220 What a good question.

01:33:44.660 So the chat can visualize.

01:33:47.540 Like, three years ago?

01:33:49.800 Oh, wow.

01:33:49.980 Because I shaved my head, like, six years ago, and I started going on my body hair, and that

01:33:54.700 was, like, reversing feminine beauty standards.

01:33:55.420 What about the crotch area?

01:33:59.180 I do not.

01:33:59.980 Au naturel there, too.

01:34:01.120 But I often trim a little bit.

01:34:02.880 Trimming.

01:34:03.000 Because it increases sensation.

01:34:04.900 Word.

01:34:05.880 Okay, so, what was the question about the head thing?

01:34:12.160 Which one?

01:34:13.080 The head.

01:34:13.660 Shaving my head?

01:34:14.640 Well, you said, you were asking, like, well, what is the hesitation there from men?

01:34:18.960 Right, exactly.

01:34:19.840 For going down.

01:34:20.220 It was, like, you know, that's why I said it was a red flag, if they're, like, never.

01:34:23.900 Or, like, there's an underlying factor.

01:34:27.180 There's something.

01:34:27.260 It's not just a, you know, something along those lines.

01:34:30.220 But, I mean, I would ask the panel, ask the girls, do you guys give enthusiastic blowjobs?

01:34:38.200 You're not, like, because some girls are grossed out by giving head.

01:34:41.700 I didn't used to.

01:34:42.720 Some girls are kind of grossed out by it.

01:34:44.200 They don't like it.

01:34:47.720 Enthusiastic PJs.

01:34:48.680 Well, I, you want me to say this on live?

01:34:51.540 Say it on live.

01:34:53.220 It's more enjoyable when it's reciprocated.

01:34:57.220 Sure.

01:34:57.540 Of course.

01:34:58.580 Sure.

01:34:59.200 Yes.

01:34:59.620 Yeah, because you have a deeper understanding.

01:35:02.840 You have a deeper bond.

01:35:03.980 And it's a, it's a shared, it's a shared experience instead of more of a chore or more, yeah.

01:35:13.820 That's all I'd say.

01:35:14.420 Yeah, like, if he did it to me, then I would be, like, more than happy to do it for him.

01:35:19.340 Mm-hmm.

01:35:20.120 Yeah.

01:35:20.820 Got it.

01:35:21.800 Yeah, definitely.

01:35:22.320 But inherently.

01:35:24.640 Inherently what?

01:35:25.240 Is there any hesitation on that?

01:35:27.820 Or you're like, I'm game.

01:35:31.200 Maybe not, like, the first time.

01:35:32.920 I don't know.

01:35:33.340 Not the first time?

01:35:33.740 It varies with the guy, too.

01:35:34.500 Like, it just depends how good the connection is.

01:35:36.360 Samantha?

01:35:36.980 Yeah, it depends on the connection and how comfortable I am and how enthusiastic I am.

01:35:40.600 Because if I'm not enthusiastic, I'm sure you'll know.

01:35:43.840 Hmm.

01:35:44.680 Okay.

01:35:45.040 Well, I can, so I can.

01:35:46.440 Can I answer it, too?

01:35:47.520 Sure.

01:35:47.740 For me, it used to feel like a chore, but it's, like, become this reverence for the cock

01:35:54.440 and this, like, deep, just, like, wow, like, thank you for this, this, yeah, energy that

01:35:59.480 penetrates with such clarity.

01:36:01.560 And so I feel like I find a lot more pleasure in it now, but it's taken so much healing around

01:36:05.220 the masculine for me to not feel repulsed and, like, it's a chore.

01:36:09.120 So, yeah, it's taken time and it's not with every man that I feel that, like, pleasure,

01:36:14.560 only those I'm connected to.

01:36:17.120 Okay.

01:36:18.720 So, I can, y'all want my take on this one?

01:36:22.140 Sure.

01:36:22.460 Yeah.

01:36:22.880 Okay.

01:36:26.020 So.

01:36:27.260 Are you devil's advocate in this or is this?

01:36:29.440 Yeah, I don't know.

01:36:29.940 I don't know.

01:36:31.300 Who knows?

01:36:32.080 It could be devil's advocate.

01:36:33.340 It could not.

01:36:34.260 I'll keep it a mystery.

01:36:36.440 But, so, me personally, I have not gone down on a girl since the Bush administration.

01:36:46.480 No pun intended.

01:36:47.460 So, that's, like, 2008, 2007.

01:36:50.340 How old are you?

01:36:50.720 Why?

01:36:51.120 33.

01:36:52.120 I'm an old man.

01:36:54.900 So, I have a couple reasons.

01:36:56.900 I'm not saying it couldn't be possible in the future.

01:36:59.980 It could happen.

01:37:00.960 You know, maybe the right girl, she's really great.

01:37:03.960 She's really fantastic.

01:37:04.980 She might convince me.

01:37:07.540 So, one, kind of hurts the neck, you know?

01:37:10.340 My neck, the jaw.

01:37:13.380 And then, but hear me out.

01:37:15.200 How do you think we feel?

01:37:16.120 So, we're doing the same thing.

01:37:20.440 It's even worse for us.

01:37:21.540 Yeah.

01:37:22.220 Way worse.

01:37:22.760 Way worse.

01:37:23.420 It's, like, going on.

01:37:24.300 It is so beautiful.

01:37:24.900 Anyway.

01:37:25.360 Yeah.

01:37:26.120 Keep going.

01:37:26.380 Well, I mean.

01:37:28.040 Anyways.

01:37:28.740 So, and here's the thing.

01:37:31.120 Here's a big one.

01:37:32.600 And so, at first, I used to be, like, well, I'd rather wait until I'm in a relationship

01:37:36.780 with a girl to do it when I'm serious.

01:37:40.740 And I'll tell you why that is.

01:37:43.160 So, the current dating meta, and we sort of talked about this before.

01:37:47.080 The current dating meta is when you're meeting someone new, you have to assume they're sleeping

01:37:56.280 with at least one other person.

01:37:58.160 At least one other person.

01:37:59.260 I mean, you can ask, but if you're just meeting this person, there's not a guarantee that they're

01:38:04.860 even going to be honest, even if you ask them.

01:38:07.000 So, you have to assume they're sleeping with someone else.

01:38:09.720 Me, personally, the thought of, okay, if I'm going down on a girl, and a guy fucked her

01:38:19.440 last night, I have an issue with that.

01:38:23.860 And women can feel the same way.

01:38:25.920 Oh, you just fucked a girl yesterday.

01:38:27.900 I don't want to go down on you.

01:38:29.260 Totally understand that.

01:38:30.700 I totally understand that.

01:38:31.860 If a girl felt that way, you know, fine.

01:38:35.940 But so, for me, the dating meta, as it is, people have so many options.

01:38:41.360 People are dating a ton of people.

01:38:43.440 Like, you know, you've got to assume they're fucking somebody else.

01:38:49.860 You have to assume that going in.

01:38:52.520 And you can't assume that they'd be honest with you.

01:38:54.620 Oh, no.

01:38:55.360 It's been four months since I've had sex.

01:38:57.900 You cannot, like, people lie.

01:39:01.460 And, yeah.

01:39:04.860 So, that's a big reason.

01:39:07.080 So, you would have a problem going down on a woman if she fucked a man yesterday, but not

01:39:10.940 putting your lingam inside her yoni.

01:39:15.220 Penis vagina.

01:39:16.120 Sorry.

01:39:16.660 Clarification.

01:39:17.060 Well, I would still probably have an issue if she had, having sex with her, if she fucked

01:39:24.980 a guy the day before.

01:39:26.720 Now, granted, of course, like, if we're not in a relationship, I mean, to me, at the end

01:39:33.900 of the day, it's still, to me, it's still gross.

01:39:36.000 It's like a, I would be disgusted by the thought of that.

01:39:41.440 But I'm a monogamous person.

01:39:43.300 So, the thought that I'm sleeping with somebody and they just fucked somebody seven hours ago,

01:39:50.160 to me, is off-putting.

01:39:52.220 And I certainly don't think that's unreasonable.

01:39:54.040 Not at all.

01:39:54.720 And I certainly wouldn't find it unreasonable if a woman was like, oh, okay, like, you just

01:40:00.160 fucked, you just fucked another girl yesterday, okay, I don't know.

01:40:06.760 I do think it's a bit different between men and women, but, but yeah.

01:40:12.660 But on that, the nuance of, like, going down on her versus being inside of her.

01:40:18.420 I mean, well, one, if you're having sex, condoms, I mean, that's, would diminish it a

01:40:25.040 little bit, but.

01:40:28.660 There's dental dams.

01:40:29.560 Dental dams exist.

01:40:32.280 I haven't tried those.

01:40:34.060 You might be able to convince me, but I just, that's not, I don't know.

01:40:37.660 To me, it's like, in the same way, it's like, sex without a condom is better, I would imagine,

01:40:44.700 for a woman, it's probably going to be much more of a turn-on if it's, there's not this

01:40:50.420 piece of plastic that's just fucking, like, saran wrap over the clit, you know?

01:40:55.760 So, I mean, that might actually be a scenario where I'd be more open to it, bust out a dent.

01:41:02.860 In fact, do I have one here?

01:41:04.240 Maybe flavored one.

01:41:05.200 I don't have a dental dam, but I do have a female condom.

01:41:12.040 Get to zoom in on that, Barry.

01:41:13.240 Oh, my God.

01:41:13.540 Thank God.

01:41:15.760 Zoom in.

01:41:16.260 That is a female condom.

01:41:18.380 Let me ask you guys a question.

01:41:19.560 Let's say you're hooking up with a guy first time, and you're like, Chad.

01:41:24.900 Chad, never Chad.

01:41:26.320 Whatever, I don't know what his name is.

01:41:27.540 Let's say, uh, I'll go with Chad.

01:41:33.040 Just continue, no name.

01:41:34.960 Bartholomew.

01:41:35.760 Ah, much better.

01:41:36.900 Do you have a condom?

01:41:38.160 And he's like, I do.

01:41:40.080 And he hands you this.

01:41:42.720 Let's look at it.

01:41:43.560 How do you react?

01:41:48.020 Feel the diameter.

01:41:49.680 It's huge.

01:41:50.960 It's huge.

01:41:55.000 Female condom, ladies.

01:41:56.700 You use it.

01:41:58.620 That goes inside you.

01:42:00.080 Oh, I get it.

01:42:01.100 I've used a sponge before.

01:42:03.560 Is it like a disposable diaphragm kind of thing?

01:42:05.800 It's basically like a condom.

01:42:06.720 It's the same thing as a condom, but bigger, I guess.

01:42:10.520 It goes over your cervix.

01:42:11.540 I feel like that wouldn't be pleasurable for men.

01:42:14.000 It goes on the, in the vagina.

01:42:16.760 I feel, immediately no.

01:42:18.960 I feel like, immediately no.

01:42:20.540 He pulls it out.

01:42:21.540 You don't, no, go.

01:42:23.060 Immediately no.

01:42:24.080 He's like, put it on.

01:42:25.780 That's like a contraption.

01:42:27.920 It's just a literal contraption.

01:42:29.960 It's just like a condom.

01:42:31.940 I feel like the whole thing would be ruined just trying to figure it out.

01:42:35.500 Wouldn't this not feel pleasurable either because there's still something?

01:42:38.440 Yeah.

01:42:38.700 I feel like, because, because with the condom, it's pretty skin tight.

01:42:43.960 For a vagina, it's not really the same case.

01:42:47.040 Like, I feel like that would be more crumpled in a way.

01:42:50.920 Yeah.

01:42:51.340 This probably doesn't feel as good.

01:42:52.920 I reckon.

01:42:53.920 Yeah.

01:42:54.420 Interesting.

01:42:55.060 It's more just, that shit would be funny as fuck.

01:42:57.140 It would be hilarious.

01:42:57.480 I think the girl would laugh, to be honest.

01:42:59.080 I should try it.

01:43:00.080 Because a sponge, like, covers your cervix, or a diaphragm covers your cervix, so then

01:43:04.420 it's like, it's very pleasurable.

01:43:06.780 But that seems like it would be interesting.

01:43:09.820 But yeah, I guess a dental dam could be doable, I guess, maybe.

01:43:15.560 If she's a really good girl, then, you know.

01:43:18.040 A good girl?

01:43:18.860 Oh.

01:43:19.080 Like, no, not in that way.

01:43:21.720 Not in that way.

01:43:22.640 But if, like, I really liked her, you know, maybe she can convince me on Valentine's Day,

01:43:29.040 maybe on her birthday, maybe.

01:43:30.740 Do you think that you're good at it?

01:43:32.240 Good at what?

01:43:33.200 Head?

01:43:33.800 Yeah.

01:43:34.160 Going down on girls.

01:43:35.800 Shit.

01:43:36.260 I mean, it's been, like, a decade and a half, so.

01:43:38.780 Probably not.

01:43:39.900 No, I'd kill it.

01:43:40.840 I'd fucking, I'd be amazing.

01:43:42.620 I know it.

01:43:45.280 So you, for that decade and a half, you've had that same, you've never been in a serious

01:43:51.440 relationship?

01:43:52.120 Is that what you're saying?

01:43:52.780 I've been in multiple long-term serious relationships.

01:43:56.560 Okay.

01:43:57.120 Five year, two year, nine month, one year.

01:43:58.760 Because I feel like your main problem was, oh, I don't know if she fucked someone yesterday.

01:44:02.340 So if you're in a committed relationship.

01:44:03.540 Well, that's one of the reasons.

01:44:05.580 One of the reasons why, and this is one of the reasons why I'd actually recommend

01:44:09.120 I guess I'm giving advice.

01:44:12.960 I'd recommend men not do it the first time you're with a girl.

01:44:17.480 Like, unless you've established that you guys are monogamous, you have to assume, and

01:44:22.540 girls can assume this too about men, that they're fucking somebody else.

01:44:26.400 Like, I mean, you two are a Nidal Vista.

01:44:27.980 You know how it is.

01:44:28.920 You're in LA.

01:44:29.720 You know how it is.

01:44:30.500 You're in LA.

01:44:30.800 But that's not a problem for everyone.

01:44:32.040 You know how it is.

01:44:32.680 If you're open to polyamory.

01:44:33.580 Well, I do think, okay, so I do think it is a bit different between men and women, but

01:44:37.000 most men, like, have a very, unless they're cucks, they have a, they're going to have

01:44:43.960 an issue with a woman who's, like, fucking a bunch of other men.

01:44:49.960 I don't think that's a particularly controversial take.

01:44:52.800 Well, if you're in the polyamory community and you're consciously communicating about all

01:44:56.660 the other men that you're sleeping with and they know each other and they're brothers,

01:44:59.780 that's totally different.

01:45:01.060 Yeah, but, I mean, that's, most men, most women are told normies.

01:45:05.820 They're not polyamorous.

01:45:06.940 If you look, the vast majority of people, you ask most women, no, disagree.

01:45:12.760 It's cool to get into those, not just the, you know.

01:45:15.540 Yeah, but it's like, the exception doesn't make the rule, you know.

01:45:19.020 So, like, there are polyamorous men.

01:45:21.560 There are men that want to be cucked and have, like, another guy come in and, like, fuck

01:45:24.500 his girl, but, like, most men are going to have a serious issue with that.

01:45:33.760 Well, we can ask the table, and, again, I do also, before I go around, I do acknowledge

01:45:38.880 it is a bit different between men and women, but do you, do you have an issue with men who

01:45:46.940 are promiscuous, or would you, would you rather date a guy who's not promiscuous, or would

01:45:52.160 you rather, I'm not framing this question right, do you have, if a guy had, before you, if

01:45:58.160 a guy had slept with a hundred women, is that an issue for you?

01:46:03.480 Well, I think there's a broader underlying message to that.

01:46:08.320 Like, if you sleep with a hundred women, how do you really perceive women, and how are you

01:46:12.720 going to perceive me, you know, because that's a lot, you know.

01:46:16.740 So, you're going to be number 101, you're very special.

01:46:21.160 Oh, whoop-de-doo.

01:46:22.120 Very special, right?

01:46:24.840 Yeah, I feel like that conveys a deeper message, and I'd be a little more uneasy.

01:46:30.100 Let me ask you a question.

01:46:31.000 You're seeing a guy, you like this guy, maybe it's a first, second date, you find out that

01:46:35.400 in the previous seven days, he slept with four other women.

01:46:39.380 Do you think that the likelihood, it's certainly plausible that that could turn into a fruitful

01:46:46.740 and long-term loving relationship, but just like your gut instinct, if you find out a guy

01:46:53.200 had slept with four other women, and he's about to go on a date with you, he slept with four

01:46:57.320 other women that week.

01:47:00.540 Before we met?

01:47:02.280 Like, are we first meeting on this date, or have we been talking?

01:47:04.640 Whatever the scenario, let's say the first, second, or third date, so it's pretty new.

01:47:10.860 Okay.

01:47:11.440 But he's entertaining other options, so you're probably going to think, okay, I'm just going

01:47:16.180 to be part of the roster.

01:47:17.720 Yeah, long-term, that...

01:47:20.580 He's probably not a good bet for long-term commitment.

01:47:22.540 Yeah, definitely, definitely.

01:47:24.440 Maybe if you just want to have fun, fine, who cares, right?

01:47:26.380 Yeah.

01:47:26.600 Maybe.

01:47:27.180 But even then, some women might be like, okay, that's a problem.

01:47:32.400 Do you want to come in on this?

01:47:33.240 Yeah, I kind of feel the same way, but people have their past, like, I don't know if they

01:47:39.060 were, like, going through something, and they used sex as, like, a means of making themselves

01:47:44.720 feel better.

01:47:45.440 Like, I know people who go through that, or, like, people who are, like, celebrities, or,

01:47:48.780 like, high-profile people, I'm going to assume that they, like, have hooked up with other

01:47:52.960 people.

01:47:55.180 But what was the question?

01:47:56.200 Would you take quarrel with a guy you're interested in potentially dating, would it

01:48:03.360 be, like, a deal-breaker, a red flag, or just a non-starter, if you knew that he had, he

01:48:09.500 was a player, he's slept with a bunch of women?

01:48:11.800 Well, so you've got to play the game.

01:48:12.740 You've got to be the player, too.

01:48:14.380 But you're not a player, though.

01:48:16.560 You don't know me.

01:48:17.640 Well, I'm just kidding.

01:48:18.380 But, I mean, you admitted to your number, your two body count, so, I mean, that's, how

01:48:25.220 old are you, 19?

01:48:26.400 I'm 21.

01:48:27.320 21.

01:48:27.880 I mean, that's, I'm not going to lie, that's pretty low for, and that's a, I would say that's

01:48:35.120 a good thing, but why don't you come in on this?

01:48:39.520 Yeah.

01:48:41.340 It's not, I wouldn't say it's a red flag for me.

01:48:43.580 It's more, the number, to me, is less important.

01:48:46.320 It's more of, like, how are you showing up with me in this moment?

01:48:49.920 And what, yeah, like, what, who are you?

01:48:52.540 Can I feel your energy?

01:48:53.600 And the number, yeah, it's not that important.

01:48:56.040 And I've slept with a lot of people as well, and also being in the sacred sexuality world,

01:49:01.000 and it's, there's, like, yeah, just this sharing of erotic energy that can happen in a conscious

01:49:07.340 way that's beautiful, and so I'm open to that, I'm here for that.

01:49:10.580 But it's, like, if the person's coming in with an energy that I'm, it's also, like, what

01:49:16.120 am I looking for?

01:49:16.760 Do I just want sex in this moment?

01:49:18.680 Then, like, maybe I'd be open to that.

01:49:20.280 But do I want, you know, someone who's going to, like, really care for me, and we can go

01:49:23.520 into a relationship?

01:49:24.180 Then maybe I wouldn't be open to it.

01:49:26.100 So, depends on what I'm seeking.

01:49:27.760 Yeah.

01:49:28.200 I mean, same thing, like you said.

01:49:29.500 If a guy is sleeping with a lot of other women, I'm going to automatically assume that that's

01:49:35.120 the same regard they're going to have for me.

01:49:36.880 Like, what are you going to, why do you want to have sex with me, then, if you're having

01:49:42.480 sex with other women?

01:49:43.840 So, I mean.

01:49:45.260 Yeah, like, are you going to go to another girl's house right after?

01:49:47.700 So, I mean, I guess I just have little regard for it.

01:49:53.880 Like, I just, yeah, like, why are you talking to me?

01:49:57.920 You have other women that you can sleep with, or, but I guess it's, like, I don't know,

01:50:01.880 like, if a guy is trying to show interest in me and actually wants to take me seriously,

01:50:07.960 I guess that's a different story.

01:50:09.560 But then I have to ask the question, like, okay, are you still having sex with all these

01:50:13.900 other women?

01:50:14.880 Like, like, if they are, like, why would I take them seriously?

01:50:18.740 What would make me want to take them seriously?

01:50:22.300 So.

01:50:22.940 Yeah, I feel like in the beginning, you, you, what you said, like, you can kind of assume

01:50:26.740 that might not be the case every time, but, wait, where was I going with this?

01:50:33.120 Never mind, just skip me.

01:50:37.000 Can I?

01:50:37.720 Yeah, you wanted to come in?

01:50:39.020 Go ahead.

01:50:39.260 Can I read one of the comments?

01:50:40.340 Oh, sure.

01:50:41.140 That, okay, low body count girls are more attractive, and that's just interesting because it just

01:50:45.580 plays in, but see, it plays into this, um, this concept that, like, if you, ah, it's

01:50:52.380 like, you know, either you're, show more chat, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on just a

01:50:56.240 sec.

01:50:57.200 Eric, show, show some more chats, please.

01:51:01.560 Yeah, sorry, go ahead, go ahead.

01:51:03.020 Um, yeah, it plays into this, like, the prude slut scale that, like, either, like, you know,

01:51:09.120 like, oh, you've only slept with a few people, and then, then it's like, okay, now I'm into

01:51:12.140 that, but, but, like, it has to be the right amount of people.

01:51:15.720 It can't be too little, because then it's like, oh, like, you're a prude, and you've

01:51:18.980 only, you haven't slept with a few people, but it's too many.

01:51:21.340 Wait, do you mean in heterosexual, like, dynamic?

01:51:23.760 Yeah, I feel like there's this.

01:51:25.180 No, the lower, the better.

01:51:27.860 Well, that is, that is so strange to me.

01:51:30.380 Zero, one.

01:51:31.420 Because you're going to shame women for exploring their sexuality, like.

01:51:36.060 It's not, it's not about shaming, it's about having a preference.

01:51:39.300 Yeah, but it's a lot, like, you're seeing a woman as a, a good, you know?

01:51:45.060 No.

01:51:45.320 Okay, well, well, think of it this way, like, I feel like a lot of men, like, are kind of

01:51:53.060 very into, like, the concept of, like, taking a woman's virginity, like, oh, she's pure, she's

01:51:58.940 untouched.

01:51:59.680 And that also goes into, like, the whole shaving thing.

01:52:02.760 Like, from a very young age, I always thought that was so strange.

01:52:07.120 Like, you need to be bald everywhere, like a child.

01:52:11.300 You need to be pure, untouched, like a child.

01:52:14.700 Like, it's very.

01:52:15.460 Well, are, where are you going with that?

01:52:18.600 There's so much to go into here.

01:52:20.220 Where are you going with that?

01:52:20.420 Keep going, please.

01:52:21.160 Because I don't, I don't think a man having a preference for a woman who has shaved legs,

01:52:25.280 or who prefers a woman who's maybe more innocent, has a lower body count, is somehow.

01:52:31.760 Partaking in the shrinking of women.

01:52:32.840 Is, well, no, I don't, it's not like a child.

01:52:36.060 I don't want to go there.

01:52:37.420 It's, I think that's pretty normal.

01:52:40.280 Normal.

01:52:40.680 What is normal, though?

01:52:43.920 Normal was created by men.

01:52:45.460 Exactly.

01:52:46.500 What?

01:52:47.120 I love.

01:52:47.720 What?

01:52:48.180 I love.

01:52:49.620 Normal was created.

01:52:51.100 Normal was created.

01:52:51.720 Normal was created by men.

01:52:52.680 Okay.

01:52:53.500 I don't even know.

01:52:54.400 It wasn't created by women.

01:52:56.460 Normal is created by the broad consensus of culture and society.

01:53:02.600 From centuries and centuries ago, where only men had say.

01:53:06.360 Sorry.

01:53:07.320 Women had plenty of say back in the day.

01:53:09.460 Did they, though?

01:53:10.160 They had plenty of say.

01:53:11.600 Plenty of say.

01:53:12.780 I don't know.

01:53:13.520 I don't know.

01:53:13.980 That was in the history books.

01:53:15.940 His story, right?

01:53:16.940 Not her story.

01:53:17.780 Let's not go back into the misogyny patriarchy stuff, because we already sort of talked about

01:53:21.740 that.

01:53:21.900 But just real quick on this topic of the shrinking and the low body count thing, I love that you

01:53:26.920 brought that up, because it does play into the shrinking of women, like the hairlessness

01:53:31.420 and the purity.

01:53:32.720 Shrinking?

01:53:33.080 Shrinking.

01:53:33.400 But men are attracted to innocence.

01:53:36.620 That is an attractive trait in women.

01:53:42.080 That's weird to me.

01:53:42.540 It's not.

01:53:43.880 It's.

01:53:44.340 Let me.

01:53:44.760 Okay.

01:53:45.380 You guys mentioned the hair thing.

01:53:47.180 Let's talk about hair.

01:53:49.000 Do you guys have a preference for men's facial hair?

01:53:52.640 No.

01:53:53.020 Clean shaven?

01:53:53.960 Beard?

01:53:54.940 Nothing?

01:53:55.460 No.

01:53:55.520 Personally, I do not.

01:53:56.400 A lot of women.

01:53:57.060 Dated a lot of bearded men.

01:53:58.300 Okay.

01:53:58.560 Well, you're an outlier.

01:54:00.480 You're an outlier.

01:54:01.980 So, beard?

01:54:04.820 No problem?

01:54:05.600 You'll date a guy with a beard?

01:54:06.740 I think I prefer no, but.

01:54:08.480 Okay.

01:54:08.960 So, yeah.

01:54:09.500 I have a preference, but like.

01:54:10.640 You have a preference for clean shaven?

01:54:12.600 Yeah.

01:54:13.000 But if he has like a mustache, that's fine too.

01:54:15.000 What about a beard?

01:54:16.000 Like a full beard?

01:54:16.720 A big beard.

01:54:17.500 Long beard.

01:54:18.580 Like how long?

01:54:19.940 To here.

01:54:20.880 I personally wouldn't, but people do.

01:54:22.520 Okay.

01:54:22.760 So, you have a preference about hair.

01:54:24.000 What about you?

01:54:24.920 Would you date a guy who had facial hair?

01:54:27.240 Full beard?

01:54:28.420 Yep.

01:54:28.780 Mustache?

01:54:29.080 No preference.

01:54:30.240 Handlebar mustache?

01:54:31.380 No preference.

01:54:32.300 No preference at all?

01:54:33.180 Okay.

01:54:33.680 All right.

01:54:34.440 Go ahead, Samantha.

01:54:35.300 Same on the preference.

01:54:35.640 No preference.

01:54:36.660 Okay.

01:54:37.800 And we know you.

01:54:40.140 Well, are you trying to compare facial hair to pubic hair?

01:54:43.300 Oh, leg hair.

01:54:44.360 Or pubic hair too.

01:54:45.540 Women are free to have a preference from.

01:54:47.160 Men have pubic hair too.

01:54:48.520 No, I know, but women are free to have a pubic hair preference.

01:54:51.880 Some women don't want to jungle down there.

01:54:53.760 A lot of guys trim and shave, so.

01:54:56.860 The beard thing, it's a fair thing to talk about like leg hair and the bearded hair.

01:55:00.860 Because a lot of women don't like a full beard.

01:55:04.780 They say, oh, it scratches my face.

01:55:06.740 And jobs say it's unprofessional.

01:55:08.400 Same as leg hair.

01:55:09.020 Unprofessional.

01:55:09.580 There's this thing.

01:55:10.000 But there are also some women who say, I really like a beard.

01:55:12.540 I really like a mustache.

01:55:13.680 So, there's that too.

01:55:14.820 But I'd say overwhelmingly, I think it's, they probably, I'm sure they've done studies on this.

01:55:19.240 It's probably majority of women, so over 50%, that do prefer clean shaven.

01:55:25.120 But okay, this concept of men being attracted to innocence, it's interesting.

01:55:28.680 Because then it, it is that, just reinforcing that double standard of like, oh, so men can have sex with a bunch of women because then they're experienced.

01:55:34.520 But then the woman is innocent.

01:55:36.380 And it, it's, it's, I mean, literally women used to not be able to get married to a man, like when arranged marriages and stuff, if they weren't a virgin, right?

01:55:45.720 So.

01:55:46.080 I'll tell you why.

01:55:47.400 I'll tell you why.

01:55:48.360 Because there's a reason.

01:55:49.700 No.

01:55:50.380 No, there's a reason.

01:55:51.500 Now, listen.

01:55:51.960 I know those days are gone.

01:55:54.120 No, I, you ask most men, they're not, they're certainly not expecting women to be virgins in this day and age.

01:56:00.040 Absolutely not.

01:56:00.740 That's done.

01:56:01.600 That's over with.

01:56:02.420 Maybe unless you're like very religious, you're Christian, Muslim, et cetera.

01:56:07.540 But there are reasons for, there are reasons intellectually, and then there's also biological and evolutionary reasons why men prefer women with a lower body count.

01:56:21.960 Okay, okay.

01:56:22.960 I can, no, I can go, I'll go in, I can go into it.

01:56:25.640 So, and what, would you guys agree that men and women are attracted to different things?

01:56:32.900 That is so, I feel, it's, it's like.

01:56:36.220 It's self-evident.

01:56:37.280 It's a heteronormative statement, right?

01:56:39.740 Well, but okay, let's speak within the confines of heteronormativity.

01:56:43.280 I don't know why we would have to do that, though, because like so many, like there's such a spectrum of sexuality.

01:56:47.600 Well, it's, well, it's certainly clear that a man who's,

01:56:51.960 he's attracted to men, a gay man, but what he's attracted to in the partner is certainly different than,

01:57:00.560 or could be different than what a man is attracted to in a woman.

01:57:05.800 Right, and there are men who are attracted to men and women, or maybe mostly men.

01:57:09.700 There's bisexual men.

01:57:10.880 Mostly women, but a few men, like there's just so many options.

01:57:13.800 I'm not saying that these people, that, that doesn't exist, but I think, you know, we are the, broadly speaking about the vast majority of people are heterosexual.

01:57:24.880 And so that's kind of what we're talking about.

01:57:26.420 I mean, we can go into the nuance of men dating men.

01:57:30.440 We can talk about bears and cubs.

01:57:33.880 I don't know what the, twinks and all that.

01:57:35.340 We can talk about those dynamics.

01:57:37.040 There's all those dynamics in the gay community.

01:57:39.060 We can talk about lesbian couples.

01:57:40.780 I mean, there's, there's a lot of nuance, but for this, we're, we are generally sticking to just heterosexual discussion.

01:57:49.700 So the question is, are men and women attracted to different things?

01:57:52.960 So are men and, yes, are men and women attracted to the same things, or are they attracted to different things?

01:58:03.420 So is attraction symmetrical?

01:58:05.320 In other words, are the physical characteristics and are the personality traits that you find attractive in men?

01:58:12.560 Do men find those same things attractive in women?

01:58:16.680 And my answer to that would be no, but I want to open it up to the panel and see your take.

01:58:21.820 So, uh, Samantha, why don't we start with you?

01:58:24.480 Are they attracted to different things?

01:58:27.060 Are men and women attracted to the same things?

01:58:29.920 I think everyone is attracted to different things.

01:58:33.480 I think not one person could say the same thing as the next.

01:58:36.820 So I can't answer the question because there's no right way to answer that.

01:58:42.020 There's like, well, everyone has their own preferences.

01:58:45.100 Sure.

01:58:45.940 Yeah.

01:58:46.180 Like my preferences are a hundred percent different than yours.

01:58:49.820 Um, but they also could vary from yours or yours, whether I was interested in a man or a woman or whatever it was, my preferences would still probably differ from someone else's in some sort of way.

01:59:04.480 But we, we can look broadly speaking at certain things.

01:59:09.880 Like you could say, for example, broadly speaking, women like men who are taller than them.

01:59:17.400 I don't think that's a necessarily controversial statement.

01:59:23.520 I think if you, if you line up.

01:59:24.720 So I guess if we're saying like, okay, yeah, a guy would want, maybe a girl, like most men would say they want a girl who's shorter than them.

01:59:31.560 And a girl would want a guy.

01:59:31.780 I think actually most men would not care.

01:59:33.700 Or most men would not care.

01:59:35.260 Even though I, and I don't even care about height.

01:59:37.860 But if we're, if that's, I guess what you're trying to imply, then.

01:59:43.260 Let me, let me ask a different question.

01:59:46.760 Would you date a guy who's smaller than you?

01:59:49.920 Size wise?

01:59:51.060 No, no.

01:59:52.120 Like skinnier than me?

01:59:53.200 No, I don't think so.

01:59:54.400 And that's just because of my preference.

01:59:55.940 But there could be someone else who would say yes.

01:59:59.540 And that's where.

02:00:00.580 But, but the exception doesn't make the rule.

02:00:04.240 If you ask most women, most women are probably going to say, I want a guy who's taller than me.

02:00:07.720 And I would, this is often a common one, but I'd want a guy who is physically bigger than me.

02:00:18.220 I mean.

02:00:20.620 Like, that's definitely true, but.

02:00:23.260 Or, okay, we could talk about personality traits too, I think.

02:00:26.720 I mean.

02:00:28.020 You ask.

02:00:29.260 Go ahead.

02:00:30.960 That's definitely true.

02:00:31.980 But, like, like I said, like, maybe another girl, like, like, maybe, maybe, okay, even if only 30% of women would date a guy who is physically smaller than them, that 30%, that definitely still counts.

02:00:47.740 So, I mean, literally, I get, no.

02:00:50.080 The question is simply, do men and women like different things, or do they like the same things?

02:00:55.480 Yeah, and I want to make it clear, like, I'm speaking in generalities here.

02:00:59.100 It's clear that there's, people have different preferences, different orientations.

02:01:03.600 So, certainly there's women who don't care about height.

02:01:07.140 But if you lined up, say, 100 women, and you asked all of them, hey, would you rather date a guy who's taller than you?

02:01:14.360 So, probably 95% of them are going to say yes.

02:01:18.840 Okay, and a broad, like, generally speaking, men and women do, like, different things.

02:01:24.020 Right.

02:01:24.460 I guess.

02:01:25.300 I feel like women are more emotionally driven, and men tend to be more physically driven.

02:01:31.560 Yeah.

02:01:32.600 Very broad statement.

02:01:35.080 But that's just, I feel like women have more emotional needs innately, and men have more physical needs.

02:01:41.840 But when in a relationship, you know, you have one goal of love.

02:01:46.800 Of love.

02:01:47.800 It's just where I'm going to take that.

02:01:49.520 Sure.

02:01:50.580 Do you want to comment on this?

02:01:51.900 I agree with, like, everything she said.

02:01:54.000 Sure.

02:01:54.300 And her, like, they all have different preferences.

02:01:57.620 I feel complete, yeah.

02:01:59.000 Okay.

02:02:00.360 So, I'm trying to recall, oh, we were talking about, like, body count, and that sort of thing, in a sense and stuff.

02:02:06.920 And so, I think for, again, we're speaking generally, broadly, I think, I do think most men, most women, they're like, I don't want to date a person that's just run through a bunch of people.

02:02:23.120 But I do think men have a greater stake or greater desire in wanting a partner that has a low body count.

02:02:34.280 Because men value, again, generally, broadly speaking, you ask most men, most men are going to tell you they value sexual purity.

02:02:43.880 Now, the days of, again, unless you're highly religious, the days of, you know, a girl being a virgin, that's, you know, that's pretty much gone.

02:02:54.760 And that's fine.

02:02:56.300 Most men accept that.

02:02:57.460 I love her face.

02:02:58.680 I scared to tell you.

02:03:00.820 This concept of men valuing sexual purity.

02:03:04.120 Is that odd?

02:03:05.120 Is that unusual?

02:03:06.240 It just reinforces, if we go back to the patriarchy, we won't go there, but I just feel that it reinforces, yeah, like, this misogynistic concept.

02:03:17.320 But that's not misogynistic.

02:03:18.580 It's not misogynistic.

02:03:19.560 I don't want to go to patriarchy, but it reinforces this, like, patriarchal dominance over women where it's, like, men can go and do their thing, live their life, but, like, I need a pure woman that's, like, small.

02:03:30.680 And it's this thing of, like, my woman.

02:03:32.600 But that's what men are attracted to.

02:03:34.220 That is, I really.

02:03:35.800 But that doesn't change the woman.

02:03:38.280 Okay, let me ask a question.

02:03:39.940 Men, it's like, I don't know that that's true necessarily, that that's what men are attracted to.

02:03:44.360 We can ask the chat.

02:03:46.600 Chat.

02:03:48.660 One in the chat, if you'd rather, if you prefer women with a low body count, one in the chat.

02:03:59.900 Two in, two in the, just one in the chat, if you'd prefer a woman with a low body count.

02:04:04.060 And it's going to take us a while to see it.

02:04:07.120 But, I mean, okay, you ask, look, you ask most men, you ask most men, no guy is going to say, gee, I really wish my girlfriend had slept with more men before she met me.

02:04:22.720 Maybe.

02:04:23.160 Maybe.

02:04:23.460 No guy.

02:04:23.980 No guy.

02:04:24.020 No guy.

02:04:25.300 No.

02:04:25.920 No, no, no, no.

02:04:26.740 No guy is going to say, I really wish he had fucked more guy.

02:04:30.280 This is such a biased chat.

02:04:31.260 Your viewers are so specific.

02:04:32.400 And I actually haven't heard this question.

02:04:34.400 I think it's been literally, I haven't even heard this concept in 10 years.

02:04:39.200 10 years?

02:04:39.560 Or maybe, like, literally, it's been, not 10 years.

02:04:42.120 Wait, what concept?

02:04:43.300 It's been a long, the concept of, like, a low body count.

02:04:44.860 I haven't even thought about something like that in so long.

02:04:48.340 Well, I can tell you why.

02:04:50.000 And I'm literally, like, who cares?

02:04:51.020 And every guy that I've met in the past, like, maybe five years is literally, no one's even asking me something like that.

02:04:58.760 Because I'm not going to share that with them.

02:05:01.180 If they're liking me, they're liking me for what I am right now.

02:05:05.500 That has nothing to do with it.

02:05:06.440 And guess what?

02:05:08.900 Like, I wouldn't respect them either.

02:05:11.360 So.

02:05:12.080 Yes.

02:05:12.640 It's such a weird, I mean, I'm literally, like, who, like, I don't care.

02:05:16.840 I'm not asking them how many women they've slept with.

02:05:19.160 So you don't care?

02:05:20.800 No, it's, like, it's a personal thing for me and who I choose to have sex with.

02:05:24.600 But that other person, like, it's actually, like, none of their business.

02:05:27.460 So the past is the past?

02:05:28.820 No, whether I've slept with two people, five people, ten people, like, that, they might not even ever even know that.

02:05:36.440 Because a lot of, like, my last boyfriend, he would never ask me that in a million years.

02:05:41.860 Never.

02:05:42.540 It's not so much.

02:05:43.580 I don't think a lot of guys are going to overtly just be like, hey, how many, I mean, if we could go around the table.

02:05:49.480 But most guys aren't going to overtly ask you that.

02:05:52.660 But it's more so just, like, if it, say it's within a friend group, it's, like, reputational.

02:05:58.480 Like, I don't know, guys don't want to marry the town bicycle.

02:06:05.260 There, I said, I said it.

02:06:07.120 I said it.

02:06:07.940 I feel like it used to be the other way around.

02:06:10.420 The other way around?

02:06:11.260 Or at least when, because I agree that we, I feel like we're evolving beyond this being a thing.

02:06:16.260 And we're kind of, like, the concept of women being sexually pure based on their body count.

02:06:21.860 Because our sexuality is pure no matter what.

02:06:24.200 No matter how many people you've slept with, there's still an energy of purity there.

02:06:27.360 Because it's sacred.

02:06:28.320 And I feel like we're evolving beyond this concept.

02:06:30.100 And to just, like, you know, continue it.

02:06:32.400 It's perpetuating, like, a cycle that is unhealthy, I feel.

02:06:35.660 But this concept, what was the last thing that you said?

02:06:42.220 Because there was a point there.

02:06:43.760 Body count.

02:06:44.500 Body count.

02:06:48.680 Okay, so.

02:06:49.840 There was something there.

02:06:51.600 So, I would say that in the, first off, everyone's free to have their own preferences.

02:06:58.340 Some guys might not care.

02:06:59.900 That's totally fine.

02:07:01.720 Some guys do care about it.

02:07:03.900 And there's certainly women that they also would care.

02:07:07.340 And I don't think it would be wrong for a woman to say, hmm, I don't want a guy that's a player.

02:07:11.820 I don't want a guy that slept with a lot of men.

02:07:14.200 I do think it's a bit different, again, because there's a few different reasons, which I'm about to go into.

02:07:18.760 But I can tell you a little bit as to why men do value sexual purity.

02:07:26.340 So, there's.

02:07:27.840 Oh, that's okay.

02:07:29.120 By the way, Samantha, just, we're just having a debate.

02:07:31.820 It's totally okay if you disagree.

02:07:32.920 I don't feel any, any, uh, bad.

02:07:35.680 I guess I just don't care to know, I guess.

02:07:38.240 I second that.

02:07:38.680 I don't know.

02:07:39.180 I just don't care to know.

02:07:40.140 Like, I really don't.

02:07:40.960 Sure.

02:07:41.600 So, I'll try to just explain to guys, like, how a lot of guys feel on this.

02:07:46.940 And so, there's a few things.

02:07:48.380 So, there's two biological evolution, evolutionary, well.

02:07:53.160 Well, okay, there's, that's for a different thing.

02:07:55.240 There's, there's one.

02:07:56.320 So, it's an innate, instinctual thing for men.

02:08:01.580 And that's because, as a woman, if you get pregnant, you know for a fact that child is yours.

02:08:09.200 But for men, we, if a woman has slept with other men, you cannot guarantee paternity.

02:08:17.220 If she's promiscuous, you cannot guarantee paternity.

02:08:20.620 Now, I know in the past, you know, in the past 40 years, we've figured out through DNA, we can do paternity tests.

02:08:28.320 But that doesn't undo hundreds of thousands of years of evolution and biology.

02:08:34.720 And so, men, if the, if the woman is promiscuous, if she's sleeping with a lot of men, you cannot know who the father is.

02:08:43.560 So, that's a big thing.

02:08:44.620 And that's, that's evolutionary.

02:08:46.400 That's hardwiring.

02:08:47.920 So, men can't just turn that off.

02:08:50.820 But most men don't have sex to procreate at a young age.

02:08:56.120 It's, it's not an intellectual thing, that thing.

02:08:58.580 It's, it's a biological thing.

02:09:00.680 So, we know we're not trying to get a woman pregnant.

02:09:03.440 But it's in our biology.

02:09:06.640 In our evolution.

02:09:10.360 Hmm.

02:09:12.360 I see what you're saying.

02:09:14.140 I, I see.

02:09:15.340 I, I, I hear you.

02:09:16.700 Okay.

02:09:17.400 It, it makes sense.

02:09:19.780 Um, and I think that also, like, speaking to that,

02:09:25.800 there's, I think there's another layer that's not being explored if, if a man is to use that to say,

02:09:33.860 this is why I want them to have a low body count, but it's okay if my body count is high.

02:09:37.880 I think there's some fear of women's sexual power that's going on.

02:09:41.540 And if someone has, like, a higher body count, it's like, oh, she must be engaging with all these people.

02:09:46.440 And that's scary.

02:09:47.800 And to just say, like, oh, it's because of my, my biological evolutionary, et cetera,

02:09:52.560 it feels like, that's one reason, a way out of it.

02:09:54.880 That's one reason.

02:09:57.220 I'll give you, I'll give you some more reasons.

02:09:58.960 So, the other thing is, is that if someone is promiscuous and has slept with a lot of people,

02:10:02.800 and I don't know why this doesn't come up more often in this discussion, in this debate,

02:10:08.700 is sexually transmitted diseases, the more partners you've had, the higher likelihood that you have an STD,

02:10:15.760 whether incurable or curable, I don't think it's insecure or anything for someone to be like,

02:10:24.400 hmm, this person's kind of promiscuous, they've slept with a lot of people,

02:10:28.720 there's a chance that they might have an STD.

02:10:30.900 And some STDs there, you can be asymptomatic, some you don't know until you, you know,

02:10:36.340 you, depends on which one, but you might not know down the road, but you could still be contagious.

02:10:41.380 So, I mean, just from the STD angle, if someone is promiscuous and sleeps with a lot of people,

02:10:48.860 you're at a higher risk for STDs.

02:10:50.580 Does anyone here want an STD?

02:10:52.860 An STI, I think, I, is like an I.

02:10:56.000 Semantics.

02:10:56.660 No, and I think, but that one goes both ways, you know, like between men and women.

02:11:00.160 Of course.

02:11:00.840 And that's why.

02:11:01.340 Of course, women can certainly say, he slept.

02:11:03.980 That's why getting tested is so important, and then talking about it openly.

02:11:07.340 Sure, but, I mean, let's be honest, like a lot of people,

02:11:11.380 have you been tested after every single partner you've ever had and had a thorough,

02:11:17.020 by the way, most people, full panel, like most people, they'll do gonorrhea, chlamydia, HIV.

02:11:22.920 Honestly, there's not, I think for HPV8, herpes, like the tests aren't even that good.

02:11:26.940 I don't really know.

02:11:28.180 That shit could show up down the road.

02:11:30.980 So, I think the STD one is a big one too.

02:11:35.580 That's fair.

02:11:35.940 For both men and women.

02:11:39.120 And if you test clear, then, you know.

02:11:42.480 Sure, but it's common sense.

02:11:44.120 Like, if someone slept with 100 people, if you had to place a bet,

02:11:50.120 the person that slept with 100 people is probably more likely to have an STD or have had an STD.

02:11:59.920 And if you know they're sleeping around with other people, more likely to have an STD.

02:12:04.500 So, that's a big one.

02:12:05.940 For both men and women.

02:12:07.460 I don't, there's that.

02:12:10.000 Valid.

02:12:16.460 For both men and women, yeah.

02:12:18.400 I mean, I wouldn't fault a woman if she was like, well, okay, that guy's a player.

02:12:23.600 He's probably got, apparently in Isla Vista, there's like a special strain of gonorrhea going around.

02:12:29.600 Oh, yeah.

02:12:30.820 That's to this specific region.

02:12:33.320 So, yeah, well, okay, so I guess I'll ask this question.

02:12:40.500 Should body count matter?

02:12:43.500 Samantha?

02:12:44.260 No.

02:12:45.520 No.

02:12:46.760 No.

02:12:47.660 Nope.

02:12:48.700 Okay, so it shouldn't matter.

02:12:49.860 So, whether you're a girl or a guy, that isn't a reasonable parameter for wanting to date or not date a partner.

02:13:03.320 So, you would take, you say, body count shouldn't matter.

02:13:06.540 So, you wouldn't, you would take quarrel then with a guy who said, hey, I really would like a girl who hasn't slept with a lot of guys, you know, maybe less than five, less than ten, you know.

02:13:17.960 You would take quarrel with that.

02:13:20.800 Sorry, what does quarrel mean?

02:13:22.460 Take issue.

02:13:23.660 Take issue with.

02:13:24.640 I would say, yeah, if he says, I prefer that you sleep with less than five men.

02:13:31.720 I'd prefer to date a girl who's slept with less men.

02:13:34.960 Sorry.

02:13:35.920 Yeah, yeah, okay.

02:13:41.960 I mean, I would have to understand their reasoning for that.

02:13:45.340 If it's STDs, then I'd be like, okay, cool, let's both get tested and then continue on.

02:13:49.620 Like, there's a solution to that, you know.

02:13:52.140 It's about communication, you know.

02:13:55.180 Sure.

02:13:56.080 Oh, yeah, I agree.

02:13:57.100 So, consensus for the table, excluding me, I guess.

02:14:01.820 Body count should not matter.

02:14:05.920 Okay.

02:14:06.740 So, follow-up question.

02:14:10.760 Starting with Samantha.

02:14:12.400 By the way, do you prefer Sammy or Samantha?

02:14:14.380 Literally, it's, I get both.

02:14:16.700 So, whichever.

02:14:17.480 Sammy?

02:14:17.700 Okay, Sammy.

02:14:20.460 What's your body count?

02:14:22.420 No comments.

02:14:23.740 Well, hold on.

02:14:24.400 I don't know who's watching this.

02:14:25.980 Hold on.

02:14:27.480 But wait, I thought we just said that body count doesn't matter.

02:14:29.740 But we don't want our mommies to know.

02:14:31.400 I know.

02:14:32.240 Mom.

02:14:33.060 Sammy's mom.

02:14:34.660 No.

02:14:35.140 Gertrude.

02:14:35.700 Turn off the stream.

02:14:37.980 No, anyone that.

02:14:41.080 But if you're saying, okay, I feel like you have to apply logic.

02:14:45.900 Not even that it's bad.

02:14:47.260 Just like, can I interject?

02:14:48.820 But you have to apply logical consistency.

02:14:50.660 If you're going to say that body count shouldn't matter.

02:14:53.100 No, because it doesn't.

02:14:54.380 It's not even like that.

02:14:54.980 But so, what's your body count then?

02:14:56.400 Can I interject?

02:14:57.340 I think body count doesn't matter when you're in an intimate setting and you're discussing it with someone.

02:15:00.940 It's very different publicly saying it online in front of hundreds of people than disclosing it with your partner in that sense.

02:15:08.220 Well, I see.

02:15:09.020 Because I just think that's different.

02:15:10.140 Because we're seeing these comments.

02:15:11.080 We're being judged for looking in different directions.

02:15:13.240 Well, YouTube is, the chat's going to be a chat.

02:15:18.060 That's my point exactly.

02:15:20.840 Okay.

02:15:21.080 So, omit?

02:15:25.180 Yeah.

02:15:25.740 No answer?

02:15:26.380 Okay.

02:15:26.840 It doesn't even matter.

02:15:27.800 Because it wouldn't matter.

02:15:28.920 Like, this isn't my boyfriend.

02:15:30.140 Or like, my future husband's not here.

02:15:32.380 But I guess I'm saying, be the change you want to see in the world.

02:15:37.220 But okay.

02:15:37.960 You don't want to answer.

02:15:38.680 That's totally fine.

02:15:39.200 It's a personal thing.

02:15:39.860 What's your body count?

02:15:42.100 I feel my presence fading.

02:15:42.820 I feel very tired.

02:15:43.640 Yeah.

02:15:43.820 We're going to wrap up here in just a few minutes.

02:15:46.160 And I don't know.

02:15:48.180 I think about 30.

02:15:50.280 If I count like three ways, et cetera.

02:15:53.340 And everyone I've ever slept with.

02:15:55.460 Okay.

02:15:57.100 Two.

02:15:57.740 Yeah.

02:15:58.040 You heard.

02:15:58.420 She said it.

02:15:59.700 It's a personal thing for me.

02:16:01.980 So, I only disclose it with those.

02:16:03.980 So, okay.

02:16:05.180 Fair.

02:16:05.840 So, okay.

02:16:06.160 Body count doesn't matter.

02:16:09.000 Okay.

02:16:10.420 But kind of does.

02:16:13.100 Maybe a little bit.

02:16:14.180 Okay.

02:16:14.960 So.

02:16:15.160 It's under 10.

02:16:16.120 I just.

02:16:16.540 It doesn't even like.

02:16:17.840 How about that?

02:16:18.240 But even then.

02:16:19.380 Even me saying it's under 10.

02:16:20.780 Why do I need to say that?

02:16:22.280 You know?

02:16:23.020 Even if like.

02:16:23.560 Well, it's within the context of the conversation.

02:16:25.420 What?

02:16:25.960 I get it.

02:16:26.560 But like.

02:16:27.360 Right.

02:16:27.660 Why is it a thing at all?

02:16:28.940 Right.

02:16:29.060 Yeah.

02:16:29.360 Like, we're saying it doesn't matter in which.

02:16:31.320 Why are people asking?

02:16:32.380 Why is it a thing?

02:16:33.520 Why is it like a.

02:16:34.400 Yeah.

02:16:35.580 But it doesn't define you.

02:16:35.860 Because I feel like once we give that information.

02:16:39.720 We're kind of put into a box.

02:16:40.980 Like you said.

02:16:41.780 Judging people is innate.

02:16:43.040 Like, it's a human reflex.

02:16:45.020 Like, we can't help it.

02:16:46.640 And.

02:16:47.340 Especially for women.

02:16:48.620 You know.

02:16:49.960 Like, the comments.

02:16:50.620 30 times 3 equals 90.

02:16:51.640 It's just funny.

02:16:52.560 You know.

02:16:52.900 It's like.

02:16:53.460 What's that?

02:16:54.000 What did he say?

02:16:54.560 I don't see it.

02:16:54.800 30 times 3 equals 90.

02:16:55.860 Oh.

02:16:56.200 He's doing the whole.

02:16:57.140 Hold on.

02:16:57.680 I got.

02:16:57.980 I got a little something for you here.

02:17:00.740 Multiply it by 3.

02:17:01.680 And that's the real number.

02:17:03.540 Apparently, that's a saying.

02:17:04.720 Was that like a little thing?

02:17:05.080 And I guess it's.

02:17:05.900 I think for guys, you divide by.

02:17:08.060 By 3.

02:17:09.080 So.

02:17:09.320 Who knows?

02:17:12.100 Okay.

02:17:12.840 Like, if it doesn't matter.

02:17:13.940 Say it.

02:17:14.220 I feel like what we've been talking about.

02:17:15.980 Is like, it doesn't matter in the context of a relationship.

02:17:18.260 Or between you and your.

02:17:20.240 The person that you're having sexual relations with.

02:17:23.760 You know.

02:17:24.340 It's not something you want to project to the world.

02:17:27.960 It's a very intimate subject.

02:17:30.940 Fair enough.

02:17:31.440 Fair enough.

02:17:32.080 Oh, I like this.

02:17:33.220 So, I'm going to just read a couple super chats.

02:17:36.220 And we'll wrap up here pretty soon.

02:17:38.540 Does anybody smell.

02:17:40.020 Does anybody smell weed?

02:17:41.500 I do.

02:17:41.720 I do.

02:17:43.200 Yeah.

02:17:43.720 Just weed.

02:17:44.360 Just wafting in here.

02:17:46.380 I don't know.

02:17:46.640 It's just like the constant smell of Isla Vista.

02:17:49.800 Eric.

02:17:50.320 And weed.

02:17:50.900 Just weed.

02:17:51.380 Acai bowls.

02:17:52.300 Yes.

02:17:52.560 Yeah.

02:17:53.180 Come on.

02:17:54.340 Yeah.

02:17:54.740 Let's see.

02:17:55.200 Oh, yeah.

02:17:55.860 It's my gym weed.

02:17:56.880 I like console lagers comment.

02:17:57.900 That's weed.

02:17:58.340 Okay.

02:17:58.360 So, we got some super chats here.

02:18:00.240 No, thanks.

02:18:00.720 Console lagers.

02:18:02.240 Celery with the $5.

02:18:04.980 Is that Zane from One Direction as his profile photo?

02:18:07.920 No.

02:18:08.360 It won't be.

02:18:09.340 Okay.

02:18:09.860 Celery.

02:18:10.020 Never mind.

02:18:10.460 It's not.

02:18:11.020 It's like Walmart version.

02:18:12.320 Yeah.

02:18:12.540 Walmart Zane.

02:18:13.440 Hold on.

02:18:13.860 Go on.

02:18:14.280 Sorry.

02:18:15.120 Celery with the $5 super chat.

02:18:16.600 Thank you for the support, man.

02:18:17.460 Appreciate it.

02:18:18.000 What about men who wear shoe lifts to make themselves taller?

02:18:20.580 Is this lying?

02:18:22.060 Women use makeup and push-up bras.

02:18:23.680 So, how is this any different?

02:18:25.360 By the way, Celery, sorry if you sent this a while ago and you were, it was contextual to

02:18:29.980 something that was going on in the conversation before.

02:18:32.260 We're just catching up on super chats.

02:18:33.660 By the way, we're about to end the show pretty soon here, guys.

02:18:36.000 So, if you want, get some super chats in while we're reading them.

02:18:39.600 So, okay.

02:18:40.020 What about men who wear shoe lifts to make themselves taller?

02:18:42.780 Is this, did we really talk?

02:18:44.220 I don't think we talked really about makeup and all that, though.

02:18:46.840 So, I mean, same as facial hair.

02:18:50.100 If that's going to make you feel good about yourself, go for it.

02:18:53.840 Yeah.

02:18:54.220 And I have that same thing.

02:18:55.600 If it's going to make you more confident, why not?

02:18:59.020 I mean, there's a lot of things that men do to make themselves confident, just the same

02:19:03.040 as a woman would.

02:19:04.840 What about men?

02:19:05.780 So, I want to see if I want to take a crack at this question.

02:19:09.060 Well, yeah.

02:19:10.680 I mean, if you're misrepresenting your height, I would say that that's lying.

02:19:17.880 But, I mean, then you have to take that to its logical conclusion.

02:19:23.140 If that's lying, then I suppose makeup and push-up bras and what are those booty short

02:19:30.040 things with the pads?

02:19:31.120 I suppose that's lying, too.

02:19:32.420 Is it lying, though, if you said, this is my normal height, and then you wear shoe

02:19:41.280 lifts?

02:19:44.140 Like, oh, they're up front?

02:19:46.740 They're just like...

02:19:47.740 If you're like, oh, are you actually...

02:19:49.640 I'm 5'5", but I'm actually, you know, these lifts make me 5'9".

02:19:54.520 As long as they disclose beforehand.

02:19:56.740 No, like, you don't...

02:19:57.260 I'm just saying, like, if they just wear them, you know, they're not saying...

02:20:00.140 They're not saying anything.

02:20:01.020 This is my height, you know?

02:20:02.640 That's like, with girls, like, if I put mascara and contour, I'm like, yeah, these

02:20:06.100 are my natural lashes, and they're not.

02:20:07.720 That's lying.

02:20:08.540 But if I'm just wearing makeup, I'm just wearing makeup.

02:20:10.620 That's all it is.

02:20:11.560 Wait, but okay.

02:20:12.840 I mean, let's say a guy was wearing a hat.

02:20:17.460 Never took that hat off.

02:20:19.640 But he takes the hat off, and he's bald.

02:20:22.980 It's kind of an omission, you know?

02:20:26.520 Or the same thing with height.

02:20:27.840 You're like, oh, you were taller, but you were just capping.

02:20:30.100 I would start to get curious about the hat if he never took it off.

02:20:34.160 You would know.

02:20:35.020 I would know.

02:20:35.440 You would know.

02:20:35.740 Guys, that's a common hide.

02:20:37.820 Well, thank you for the $5 soup chat, Celery.

02:20:40.020 Much appreciated.

02:20:42.120 No bull spit $5 dono.

02:20:44.540 Thank you, man.

02:20:44.900 Appreciate it.

02:20:45.740 If the man is down and eating the badonkadonk, does that increase his out of 10 rating?

02:20:50.620 Okay, girls.

02:20:51.080 So we'll go around the table with this.

02:20:52.660 Yeah.

02:20:52.760 A hundred percent.

02:20:54.940 So eating ass.

02:20:56.820 Oh, that's a badonkadonk.

02:20:59.480 Badonkadonk.

02:21:00.700 Oh.

02:21:01.440 A badonkadonk is a woman with a fat ass.

02:21:04.220 Like a big ass.

02:21:05.080 That's a badonkadonk.

02:21:05.640 How do you know these terms?

02:21:07.760 I mean, you know, I've got friends.

02:21:12.820 We speak.

02:21:13.720 Right.

02:21:13.960 So eating ass.

02:21:19.500 I mean, whether.

02:21:21.900 Sure.

02:21:22.800 It'll increase.

02:21:23.720 It gets some bonus points.

02:21:24.420 Yeah.

02:21:24.700 Sure.

02:21:25.340 Sure.

02:21:26.060 Yeah.

02:21:26.680 I just don't see how I would get pleasure from that.

02:21:30.220 Yeah.

02:21:30.760 Have you experienced?

02:21:33.860 Have you?

02:21:35.020 Have you done it?

02:21:36.600 Have you had your ass eaten before?

02:21:38.740 By a woman?

02:21:40.160 Or a woman?

02:21:40.600 They requested.

02:21:42.560 Oh.

02:21:43.020 Two women.

02:21:44.020 I have friends that are huge into that.

02:21:47.320 It was.

02:21:48.140 Eh.

02:21:49.020 It was okay.

02:21:49.500 It was okay.

02:21:50.300 Like, I wouldn't ask for it.

02:21:52.020 But they were like, I want to do it.

02:21:53.860 I was like, try this shit once.

02:21:57.700 So.

02:21:58.080 I mean.

02:21:58.460 It was all right.

02:21:58.860 Yeah.

02:21:59.160 I mean.

02:22:00.280 But to me, that's just not, you know, appealing for me personally.

02:22:05.800 I know people that like to do it.

02:22:07.060 People that do it to each their own.

02:22:09.300 Go for it.

02:22:09.780 Love it.

02:22:11.560 Not for me.

02:22:12.300 So that wouldn't, that wouldn't increase or decrease anything.

02:22:15.260 I just wouldn't.

02:22:15.900 Okay.

02:22:16.560 Feel anything.

02:22:17.320 Eating the badonkadonk.

02:22:18.860 Eating the badonkadonk.

02:22:19.200 Reminds me of the Chappelle show bit.

02:22:21.780 Or there.

02:22:22.160 Anyways.

02:22:22.600 Okay.

02:22:24.100 Salad City Rebel.

02:22:25.200 I believe this is Brandon.

02:22:26.660 What's up, Brandon?

02:22:27.520 I don't know if you're still watching, but.

02:22:29.380 Thank you for the $5 super chat, man.

02:22:30.920 Dude.

02:22:31.120 Thank you, man.

02:22:31.680 Really appreciate it.

02:22:32.440 I see your Salinas icon there.

02:22:34.980 By the way, for those watching, this is Brandon.

02:22:37.360 I did an interview with him.

02:22:39.700 He was the ex-convict, ex-gang member.

02:22:42.760 Really good interview.

02:22:43.960 We're going to get Brandon back on.

02:22:46.080 He's actually going to come on one of the dating shows, so he can give his take.

02:22:50.000 But practice makes perfect.

02:22:52.420 Everyone prefers an experienced partner.

02:22:55.440 100, Brandon the Rebel.

02:22:58.600 Okay.

02:22:59.080 Oh, yeah.

02:22:59.420 That's just a sig.

02:23:00.800 So, okay.

02:23:01.580 I mean, he sides with you guys.

02:23:03.960 Everyone prefers an experienced partner.

02:23:07.060 Brandon, I got love for you.

02:23:09.600 No disrespect.

02:23:10.860 I disagree with you respectfully.

02:23:14.280 You know, and also, I would say to that, Brandon, that a woman who's only been with one

02:23:20.680 or two partners, those very well could have been long-term relationships.

02:23:24.200 And she may very well be more sexually experienced than a girl who's been with 30 guys, but they've

02:23:30.660 all been one-night stands, you know?

02:23:32.480 So, I don't think body count necessarily would dictate someone's skills in the bedroom.

02:23:41.420 Yeah.

02:23:41.680 So, for both men and women, you know, if a guy's just had a bunch of one-night stands, doesn't

02:23:47.720 necessarily mean he's going to be good in bed versus a guy who's had one girlfriend,

02:23:50.680 but he was killer in the bedroom, you know?

02:23:53.100 So, but thank you, Brandon, for the super chat.

02:23:55.880 Much appreciated.

02:23:56.560 Let's get you back on the show.

02:23:59.940 Console Logger with the $5 super chat.

02:24:03.280 Just want to say thanks to the girls for taking the time to come on here.

02:24:07.460 Can't imagine it's fun having a group of dudes scrutinize you, so props.

02:24:12.680 Hey, you know, I do also want to give props to the panel.

02:24:15.840 I, you know, it's tough.

02:24:18.820 The comments can be brutal towards me, towards the panel, and we had, I think, a heated discussion.

02:24:26.380 I think it was good, though.

02:24:27.240 I think it was good.

02:24:28.100 Yeah.

02:24:28.360 I think I was kind of intentionally trying to, you know, poke them in the side a little bit

02:24:33.040 with a couple things, but no, they gave some very, had some very good takes, and I'm glad

02:24:38.840 that they, you know, had some things to say.

02:24:41.620 Oh, God, this guy.

02:24:46.100 Mike Davis.

02:24:46.960 Bruv.

02:24:47.760 Okay.

02:24:49.020 Mike Davis, $5 super chat.

02:24:50.640 This guy's a hater.

02:24:51.260 He was in our last chat donating, talking shit.

02:24:55.820 Brian, time to wrap up.

02:24:57.080 These girls are going to request overtime pay, eating up your donos.

02:25:00.480 It is what it is, man.

02:25:01.460 Mike Davis, thank you for the $5 super chat.

02:25:03.440 Mike Davis.

02:25:04.340 Mike Davis.

02:25:05.360 What?

02:25:05.680 Bruv.

02:25:06.040 Okay, anyways.

02:25:08.560 I am tired.

02:25:10.340 So, before we wrap up, I want to open it up to panel, to you guys.

02:25:15.480 If you have a question, either for me, a final thought, you have a question for someone else

02:25:21.000 on the panel, I want to give you guys an opportunity, final thought, or a question.

02:25:27.300 Let's start with over here.

02:25:31.640 Oh, me?

02:25:32.500 Yeah.

02:25:32.640 Well, first of all, I think polygamy is super interesting, and I'd like to hear, like, your

02:25:40.700 take on how it is, like, sharing a partner, like, knowingly.

02:25:47.860 Like, you said you were dating someone who's also dating, like, five other people.

02:25:50.840 Like, do you ever feel feelings of jealousy or competitiveness when you're in that situation?

02:25:57.440 Yes, yes, I do.

02:26:00.460 Thanks for asking the question.

02:26:02.900 And polyamory is usually the term that I like to use, like, rather than polygamy, because

02:26:08.540 it just, yeah, it's the open, open love, open relating, or even just open relating, because

02:26:13.100 polyamory can have a specific, like, connotation.

02:26:16.740 And, yeah, I'd say that feelings of jealousy and, like, comparison can come up really strongly,

02:26:23.960 and they come up more strongly for me when I don't know the other people, because then

02:26:28.320 it's, like, all in the mystery for me.

02:26:29.960 Yeah.

02:26:30.360 But when I can have a sense of, like, intimacy and feeling the other women as sisters or other

02:26:35.180 men, if I'm dating a woman who's dating other men, too, then I can, like, feel this sense

02:26:38.600 of, like, oh, okay, we're all, we all love, like, the same being, and we're, and we're

02:26:43.320 praying to this, this source of our pleasure and our power together, then it helps me, like,

02:26:49.880 kind of soothe the inner child that feels like the abandonment stuff and the jealousy.

02:26:54.360 And jealousy is an interesting one, too, because I feel like it's a conglomeration of, like,

02:26:57.880 10 different emotions.

02:26:58.660 There's, like, desire, and there's fear, and there's anger, and there's longing, and shame,

02:27:03.300 and rage.

02:27:03.660 There's, like, all these emotions together.

02:27:04.940 So when I can break them down one by one, and then be with a partner that, like, can

02:27:08.680 hold space for that, then it helps soothe me.

02:27:12.380 Yeah, and I'm constantly navigating that, too, of how to, like, feel secure.

02:27:16.820 And when I have that, like, healthy attachment with someone, then I feel less jealousy, because

02:27:21.260 we're, like, communicating.

02:27:22.780 Communication is everything.

02:27:24.440 Yeah, okay.

02:27:25.880 Nice.

02:27:26.420 Thanks for sharing.

02:27:27.120 Thank you for asking.

02:27:28.520 I guess I just want to clarify, because, yes, I only have two bodies, but you were like,

02:27:33.760 that doesn't make me a player.

02:27:35.060 Not saying I'm a player, but, like, when I play the game.

02:27:37.080 Just a minute.

02:27:37.620 You're a player.

02:27:39.360 Okay.

02:27:39.780 No, no, I'm sorry.

02:27:40.760 Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.

02:27:41.720 Go ahead.

02:27:42.060 I'm teasing.

02:27:42.180 I was just going to say, like, you can talk to a lot of people, but I don't, like, have

02:27:46.640 sex with all of them.

02:27:47.840 Do you know what I mean?

02:27:48.460 That's why my body count's only two.

02:27:51.120 And, like...

02:27:51.280 Would you say you have high standards?

02:27:52.720 Yeah, I have extremely high standards.

02:27:53.980 What are you...

02:27:54.460 Just curious.

02:27:55.080 What are your high standards?

02:27:57.100 I don't want to put...

02:27:58.120 Why?

02:27:58.960 Like, height?

02:28:01.380 Height's a big one for me.

02:28:02.300 Six.

02:28:02.540 I know we were maybe joking about that, but six feet and above?

02:28:05.960 Yeah, probably.

02:28:07.300 And then you're...

02:28:08.360 I just want them to have, like, good morals.

02:28:10.460 Good morals.

02:28:10.720 Like, as long as we view things the same way, and even if we don't, as long as we can, like,

02:28:15.140 talk it out and, like, understand each other, I feel like that's a key point.

02:28:18.400 Like, the last guy I talked to, I didn't have sex with him, but, like, we still...

02:28:24.040 Not dated.

02:28:24.780 Like, I talked to him, you know?

02:28:27.060 And, like, how we were saying earlier, he probably has a lot of bodies because he's,

02:28:31.960 like, more of a high-profile person.

02:28:34.620 I feel like body count.

02:28:35.600 High-profile?

02:28:36.380 Or, like...

02:28:37.300 Person?

02:28:38.520 Not, like, high-profile.

02:28:39.500 Blue check?

02:28:40.640 Yeah, he, like...

02:28:41.760 Wait, blue check?

02:28:42.420 I'm like, how much should I say?

02:28:44.940 I mean, don't say his name, but, like...

02:28:46.460 No, yeah, I'm not going to say his name.

02:28:47.560 Yeah, he just got drafted this past...

02:28:49.260 To NFL?

02:28:50.700 NBA.

02:28:51.460 NBA?

02:28:52.280 Yeah, and...

02:28:53.500 Bruv.

02:28:54.380 Okay.

02:28:55.700 Congrats.

02:28:56.740 Wait, and you turned him down?

02:28:59.760 Kind of.

02:29:00.380 I just...

02:29:00.800 I also figured that he was sleeping with a lot of people, and he was only here for, like,

02:29:06.380 a short period of time, so, like...

02:29:07.700 Oh, yeah, because UCSB has some, like, basketball camp or some...

02:29:11.320 It's, like, P3.

02:29:12.180 There's a training center in Santa Barbara.

02:29:14.140 Okay.

02:29:14.680 But he got drafted...

02:29:16.140 Can we say the team?

02:29:17.940 No.

02:29:18.480 Okay.

02:29:18.960 But he was top 10.

02:29:19.720 I was digging.

02:29:20.180 Top 10 draft pick.

02:29:22.720 Yes.

02:29:23.440 But so...

02:29:23.980 Wait, hold on.

02:29:25.120 But so...

02:29:25.580 No, don't expose me.

02:29:26.840 Wait!

02:29:28.100 Internet sleuths.

02:29:29.420 No.

02:29:29.960 No one.

02:29:31.220 No.

02:29:31.900 Okay, but...

02:29:32.740 Cut the cameras.

02:29:33.320 What the fuck?

02:29:33.560 Mike Davis.

02:29:34.540 Okay.

02:29:35.280 You're not getting it with anyone.

02:29:36.840 I have friends who are in the NBA already, like...

02:29:39.460 No people who play in there.

02:29:40.440 Mike Davis, girl.

02:29:42.000 Dude, he's dead.

02:29:42.640 Wait, so, okay, you're a guy you were seeing...

02:29:45.560 Not, like, seeing.

02:29:46.300 I was, like, talking to him.

02:29:47.480 Like, I wouldn't say we were dating.

02:29:48.640 Okay.

02:29:48.900 Because that...

02:29:50.040 But, like, when we went out, like, downtown, he would get, like, free shit and he would

02:29:54.140 just give it to me.

02:29:54.460 Bottle service?

02:29:56.420 Not bottle service, but, like, they'd just get, like, free stuff and, like, clout.

02:30:01.260 I don't know.

02:30:03.120 But, yeah.

02:30:06.360 Okay, this is my question.

02:30:07.640 Do you girls...

02:30:08.160 NBA player, by the way.

02:30:10.000 Ain't that something?

02:30:11.360 I have friends who are already in it.

02:30:12.940 Like, it's not that big a deal.

02:30:14.040 I mean...

02:30:15.880 All right.

02:30:16.980 Go ahead.

02:30:17.440 Well, my question was, do you guys, like, also think that dating is only when they take

02:30:22.200 you out on dates?

02:30:23.460 No.

02:30:24.240 But, like, you would talk to them and you would classify that as dating?

02:30:28.660 Even when someone takes me out on a date, are we even dating?

02:30:31.560 Yeah, like, I just went on a date, but I wouldn't say I was dating him.

02:30:34.060 Yeah, I wouldn't say I'm dating him.

02:30:35.320 Yeah.

02:30:35.840 For sure.

02:30:36.880 I think it has to be...

02:30:37.860 I'm very keen on it having to be, like, specifically...

02:30:42.220 Clippers?

02:30:42.460 Is it the Clippers?

02:30:43.200 No.

02:30:44.060 Some guy in the chat says, just visited Santa Barbara.

02:30:48.540 And this guy says, I turned down Brad Pitt and Henry Cavill.

02:30:52.860 What?

02:30:53.520 I don't get it.

02:30:55.080 He's saying that you're saying...

02:30:56.400 Your standards.

02:30:57.720 Okay, you guys can believe what you want.

02:30:59.160 I don't know.

02:31:00.960 Wow.

02:31:02.260 Damn.

02:31:02.660 Okay, so, wait, so what was the...

02:31:05.660 Well, like, earlier when we were talking about, like, what do you classify as dating?

02:31:09.860 I feel like you have to be talking to them for a certain period of time, and then, like,

02:31:13.020 they actively take you out on dates.

02:31:15.420 Like, that's my definition, but I was just wondering what theirs was.

02:31:18.200 Okay.

02:31:20.740 Basketball player, folks.

02:31:22.160 Basketball.

02:31:22.920 NBA top 10 draft pick.

02:31:25.580 Wow.

02:31:27.400 You should have jumped on that.

02:31:29.780 Not, like, in a sexual sense, but, like, tall.

02:31:35.660 What is...

02:31:36.140 You mentioned you have high standards.

02:31:38.280 What are some more of your...

02:31:39.360 Okay, I just, like...

02:31:41.040 Yeah, just, like, morals.

02:31:42.640 Morals, okay.

02:31:43.240 Like, I need to talk to them about things and see what their reaction would be, and that

02:31:46.860 would tell me, like, what type of person they are, you know?

02:31:48.800 Sure.

02:31:49.660 And, like, I hate small talk.

02:31:51.820 Like, I feel like we need to talk about, like, deeper things.

02:31:55.280 Deeper things?

02:31:56.000 Like, in life.

02:31:56.800 I don't know.

02:31:57.100 That's just me, though.

02:31:57.700 Like, okay.

02:32:01.340 What's, like, an example of a deep topic?

02:32:04.580 Like, I like asking them, like...

02:32:06.580 Astrology?

02:32:07.540 Don't say astrology, please.

02:32:08.660 Okay, I am an astrology girl, but I don't do that.

02:32:10.980 I would say, like, I would ask them what's something that they've carried into their adulthood

02:32:16.900 from their childhood.

02:32:17.840 Like, I just want to know those things, you know?

02:32:19.580 Sure.

02:32:19.600 Like, what makes them that type of person?

02:32:21.740 I just want to, like, get to know the nitty-gritty details.

02:32:26.220 I don't know.

02:32:28.020 Okay.

02:32:28.640 Got it.

02:32:29.600 Okay.

02:32:31.100 I feel...

02:32:31.740 Final thought or question?

02:32:32.500 I feel like I'm ready for my time boundaries to be respected and really close up because

02:32:35.780 it feels late.

02:32:36.880 Yeah, yeah.

02:32:37.260 We'll close up.

02:32:38.240 We're just...

02:32:38.820 Final thoughts.

02:32:39.560 The final thought.

02:32:40.480 Yeah.

02:32:40.820 I feel like there's been a lot of, like, topics we've touched that have felt, like, challenging

02:32:47.760 and not maybe reaching the depth that we desire.

02:32:49.960 And I just hope we can all, in the dating scene, in this day and age, really remember to

02:32:53.840 come back to our breath and our body and what we're really in search of when we're reaching

02:32:58.360 out to seek a partner.

02:33:02.680 Sammy, final thought or question?

02:33:04.840 Shout out to...

02:33:04.920 What's his name?

02:33:06.280 Consul Lager.

02:33:07.180 Yeah.

02:33:07.480 Consul Lager.

02:33:08.120 Consul Lager.

02:33:08.580 That's all I have to say.

02:33:09.620 That's it.

02:33:10.320 That's it.

02:33:10.540 Wait.

02:33:10.620 Can I say something about the astrology thing?

02:33:12.460 I don't think astrology is a red flag.

02:33:15.460 It's, like, the psychology behind...

02:33:17.120 People just hate on women when they enjoy things.

02:33:21.060 The psychology behind the astrology is what makes it...

02:33:23.800 Hold on.

02:33:24.000 Hold on.

02:33:25.160 Wait.

02:33:25.580 Repeat that?

02:33:26.780 People just hate on...

02:33:28.300 Men especially hate on women for just enjoying things.

02:33:31.920 Yeah.

02:33:32.140 It's, like, you like the psychology behind it.

02:33:34.280 Wait.

02:33:34.540 How...

02:33:35.580 Men can do astrology, too, though.

02:33:37.240 So, I don't...

02:33:37.960 I'm not...

02:33:39.160 How does hating astrology have to relate to hating women?

02:33:43.820 The amount of times when I've asked a male his birthday, he's like, ugh, you're not one

02:33:49.440 of those astrology girls, are you?

02:33:53.140 So, that's all I have to say about that.

02:33:57.140 Just show...

02:33:57.620 Last thing.

02:33:58.460 Show of hands.

02:33:59.020 Who here is, like, into astrology?

02:34:03.380 I think it's fun to read.

02:34:06.340 I don't know too much about it, but I think it's cool.

02:34:09.540 You see how far the termites have spread.

02:34:12.000 Yeah, I don't know a lot about it, but I think it's fun.

02:34:14.720 Okay.

02:34:15.500 We'll leave it there.

02:34:18.900 We'll leave it there.

02:34:20.980 Thank you guys for tuning in tonight.

02:34:24.500 You could have been doing anything else, but you're here with me.

02:34:27.960 I appreciate that.

02:34:29.480 We will be live again Thursday at 7 p.m. Pacific time.

02:34:35.240 Why you got a show?

02:34:36.100 Mike Davis, thank you for the super chat.

02:34:38.040 Oh, last question for the chat.

02:34:39.560 Mike Davis likes to send super chats, but I'm like, he's trolling.

02:34:44.680 Don't show that one.

02:34:46.060 We're not...

02:34:46.420 Sorry.

02:34:48.160 I mean, you can show it, but we're wrapping up.

02:34:51.440 Just show it.

02:34:52.020 Fine.

02:34:54.360 Okay.

02:34:54.780 One in the chat.

02:34:55.920 Mike Davis is clearly a troll.

02:34:58.060 He just wants to talk shit.

02:34:59.280 Like, what do you guys think in the chat?

02:35:00.660 Like, should I let him...

02:35:02.120 Should I engage with his super chats or not?

02:35:04.740 Let me know.

02:35:06.160 Okay.

02:35:07.040 So, and then thank you, JJ Son, for the Canadian $2.

02:35:10.760 Merci beaucoup.

02:35:11.600 I don't know if you're from the French-speaking part of Canada.

02:35:14.640 We will be live again Thursday at 7 p.m.

02:35:17.480 I want to thank the panel for coming.

02:35:19.260 It was great.

02:35:20.260 Appreciate the debate.

02:35:22.720 But, yeah, thank you guys for tuning in, and we will see you next time.

02:35:28.440 Thanks, guys.

02:35:29.180 See ya.

02:35:29.460 Thank you.

02:35:29.920 Thank you.

02:35:29.980 Thank you.

02:35:30.020 Thank you.

02:35:30.080 Thank you.

Whatever Podcast - February 02, 2023

Dating Talk #6

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