Dating Talk #60
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3 hours and 52 minutes
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174.5239
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Summary
In this episode, we introduce ourselves, introduce the show, and introduce our first guest, who happens to be a podcaster, writer, and social media influencer named Morgan Lux. We also talk about how to become a streamer on Twitch, and how you can become a supporter of the show.
Transcript
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La donna è mobile, qual piuma il vento, muta d'accento e di pensiero.
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Sempre un'amabile, legge addroviso, impianto in riso e menzognero.
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La donna è mobile, qual piuma il vento, muta d'accento e di pensiero.
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La donna è mobile, qual piuma il vento, muta d'accento e di pensiero.
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Anyways, without that, excuse me, without further ado, after that thoroughly windy and, well, long-winded introduction, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.
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So, please, tell us your name, age, and occupation.
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I'm a right-of-center, politics, culture, current events commentator.
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I do social media and OnlyFans for a living, but I also consult businesses and clients on how to grow their social media organically.
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I'm 19, and I study environmental studies at UC Santa Barbara.
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And what's the, do you have a name for your podcast, right?
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Yeah, be sure to, be sure to check that out, guys.
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So, we're going to go around the table once more.
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Current relationship status, so single, situationship, relationship, and your longest relationship.
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I'm in a relationship currently, and my longest relationship was three years.
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I am unavailable, and my longest relationship was four years.
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So, we're just involved with each other, emotionally.
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Just him, if he wanted to, but he's not at the moment.
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My longest relationship is, well, my current one, which is a little over four years.
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Do you know, do you guys have a date yet for the marriage?
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The only reason why we do not, our house has flooded the past four times in, or four times
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So, a lot has been happening, and we're trying to just figure out life, but we feel like we're
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already married, so we might just elope eventually.
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We're just, when the timing's right, the timing's right.
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We're just trying to get things settled, I guess.
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Is he involved in the production of your OnlyFans?
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He also helps me, like, manage it and whatnot as well.
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Like, we're very open about the whole thing, but I only, if I film that kind of stuff, it's
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So, do you guys share the earnings, or is, how does that work?
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We feel like, like I said, we feel like we're already married, so all the income we both
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I'm single, and my longest relationship was about a year.
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I don't think I've been, like, legal relationship, per se.
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I don't, I don't, how to say this, I've been dating the same guy for, like, three months,
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let's say, but I don't, we were not, like, we didn't have a conversation about whether
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But the longest period of time, you were seeing a guy for three months, but it never.
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Just because we scuffed the camera angles for you, here, I need you to kind of, like,
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when we're over here on this camera, if you can be, like, kind of leaned back.
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Yeah, I should have mentioned that before the show.
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I'm single, and my longest relationship was about a year and a half.
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So, got a couple single people here, these three over here.
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You're not, you're sort of, you're in a situationship, basically.
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Because previously, you said you were making $40,000 a month.
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So, what happened to the booming feet pic business?
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I decided that I didn't want to do it anymore, plus Nathan works, and I take care of Nathan.
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You three are, you're engaged, you're situationship, you've been dating a guy for a year, right?
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Or do you think you guys are gonna, you know, get married?
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I think it's pretty symbolic, but I am a fan of long-term, dedicated relationships.
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I don't see any reason to go and sign the paper, other than for maybe taxes and healthcare purposes.
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Because, I mean, you have your show with PragerU, which is a, my understanding,
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Yeah, I'm sort of an outlier as I'm not religious at all.
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So, you three that are single, what does that actually mean, to be single?
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To not be attached to anyone and not have, like, any, I guess, strings attached.
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Like, I would still say I'm single if I was in a situationship, but I wouldn't be, like,
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Yeah, I just got out of a relationship, like, two months ago.
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Well, we ended things because I couldn't trust him, and we kept having fights about that.
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I don't have any evidence, but I still think so.
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Was he doing this thing where, you know, like, he'd keep his phone down like this?
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No, but it was on Do Not Disturb all the time, so I just kind of.
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Yeah, and then, well, it was complicated, but, yeah, basically.
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I use dating apps to procure women for my show.
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The chicks, they got, you know, their Cash App and Venmo and OnlyFans and their dating apps.
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There's, like, some guys who are cute and, like, I would consider going on a date with, but I kind of just, like, think of it as a game.
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Ryan, McMahon, and Ty for always keeping it real.
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I see there's a question mark there after the keeping it real, though, so I think you're questioning my ability to keep it real.
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By the way, thank you for doing that through Streamlabs.
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Had you done that through YouTube, your donation would have only been, what is it, 100?
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By the way, just a reminder, guys, do your super chats.
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Do your donations through Streamlabs because YouTube takes 30% of everything.
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I think you were telling us about how lonely you are.
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Yeah, no, I just use, I don't know, I just, it's fun to go on, but I don't think I'm actually going to, like, pursue anyone on it, maybe, but, like.
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Are you, you're a sophomore or a junior at UCSB?
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So your relationship is, was he also a student at UCSB?
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So it's been kind of long distance, or it was long distance?
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Is he a bartender there, or just another patron?
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Is it a turn-on if a guy has good words per minute on the keyboard?
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Like, let's say it's, like, 200 words per minute.
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I also got, like, when guys operate machinery, like, when a guy knows how to drive stick,
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My fiance knows how to drive stick shift, and it's kind of hot.
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Sorry, that's what I agreed with in the beginning.
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And then I also included, I like when they know how to operate machinery.
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So, yeah, I like when guys know how to do things and have skills, like that nerdy machinery,
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I mean, it's probably on the computer a lot, working hard.
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But, like, if he can type an essay in, like, 10 minutes, come on.
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Okay, so, speaking of words per minute, what if he's got, like, the micro?
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What if he's got micro, like, you know, video games and shit?
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Like, he's just, like, he's fucking top guy, like, League of Legends or StarCraft,
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and he's just, like, he's got the fucking micro, actions, AP, what is it, APM?
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So, he's, like, sending some fucking Zerg over here.
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So, he's, like, puts all these rocket dudes in the Humvee, right?
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Basically, if they're good at video games, yeah?
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So, he's, like, boom, he puts a bunch of those rocket men in the Humvee,
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rushes the base, and the GLA is, like, oh, he's got the technical,
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I'm going to go out on a strong limb and say no on that one.
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But, like, if they, if they're technical and they know what they're doing, sure.
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I don't know the, I don't know if I fully understood the rest of that,
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Eric, can you just put the volume to 50 really quick?
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Okay, so, he's in a top North American raiding guild.
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He's in a top North American raiding guild in World of Warcraft,
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the critically acclaimed MMORPG by Blizzard Entertainment.
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They get Lord Kha'Zach and the Blasted Lands every time.
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Like, are you more attracted to him because of that?
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The amount of time that man is spending on the computer would be very, very concerning.
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I used to date a guy who played, like, World of Warcraft, League of Legends,
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and he spent, like, 10 hours a day on the computer.
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A lot of different, a lot of different stuff he had going on.
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Is that, you're down for the, I have no comment.
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If he comes with the whole package too, and, like, is a decent guy,
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because there's gamers that are that good, but they're also douchebags as well.
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So, if you're a decent guy and you're really good, yeah, it's, it's kind of hot.
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And then you're streaming on top of it, and you're making a ton of money because you're that good.
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When's the last, when was the last time you had like a partner or something?
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Didn't you make a mistake from last you told us?
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I was seeing a guy for like two months, and it was just bad news.
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Basically, the situation was I wanted something, and he didn't tell me that he didn't, but the
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I thought you like had a thing for jacked dudes.
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I was going to ask one more World of Warcraft question, but I just, I should do it or I
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Carson, do you have the pop-out chat, by the way?
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One in the chat, if you want me to ask the final World of Warcraft question.
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Two in the chat, if I'm being cringe and I need to move on.
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Carson, to do the pop-out chat, you need to, actually, I can see it on my end, I suppose.
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I don't know that I have something super controversial.
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I don't think that's, I don't think that's controversial.
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You're kind of on the same, same way of things with that?
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I'm, perhaps it's controversial because you, you work for a more conservative outlet in
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But do they have any qualms with that you maybe don't align with all their, or they're just
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Do you have, what's your most controversial dating opinion?
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That women should teach themselves or learn to be less masculine and more feminine.
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And that men should be less feminine and more masculine, such as, for example, women should
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focus more on family rather than work and be more family oriented, as well as taking care
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of their partner, like laundry, cooking, cleaning, things like that.
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Or at least if they do work, then staying in a, in an environment that is more feminine
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than masculine, while the man provides financial support and such.
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And the woman focuses on the family and household.
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Weren't you selling your feet pics like a month ago for $40,000 a month?
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I've been better, actually, these past few weeks.
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Your most controversial dating take is women need to be more feminine and men need to be
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This is going to be a very, I think, agreeable panel.
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And if you like, if you're a woman or a man who like, kind of like, you know, like, wants
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to be in that position and like, you know, be the stay at home mom and work as a dad,
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But if you don't want to do it, you definitely shouldn't.
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Here, why don't you finish your answer and then we'll.
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Yeah, I just kind of think you should be able to do what you want.
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But if you want to like, be a woman and have a career and not stay at home, you should
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Or if you want to have kids and also you could do both.
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Women who tend to work in more masculine environments carry on a lot of masculine traits.
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So eventually you're going to want to get married.
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Eventually you're going to want to have a boyfriend and you're not, you're going to
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be in your 30s married to a man who is very feminine or he's going to be married to a woman
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who's very masculine to where it won't work out.
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So, you know, you're going to go to work, you're going to be busy with a career and then
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you have kids and then your kids don't see you because you're too busy at work rather
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So the only way for you to have a good marriage or relationship with a man is to hold down
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what you're supposed to hold down, meaning you take care of the house, you take care
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By all means, I mean, if you want to have a career and you can balance both, then go
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But it just means that while you're working in an environment that's very masculine because
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most places that you work, they're owned by men.
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So the rules that you have to follow by are all made up by men, meaning you take on those
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And so when you go home, it's kind of harder for you to be more feminine in the household
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since you're so used to working in a masculine environment.
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And it kind of throws off the balance between you and your partner.
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I think that you can be feminine while working in a masculine, I guess, situation or job, like
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Have you ever worked in the masculine environment?
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We should probably define what a masculine environment is because that's a very subjective
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Meaning that like, so if you work at a nail salon, right?
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It's women, you know, it's, it's, it's most of the time nail salons or hair salons are
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You're surrounded by other women and feminine energy.
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So when you are a CEO or a boss of a company, you hold all of these masculine traits because
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you are a leader and the job of a man is to, you know, be the leader, be a problem solver.
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But girls go based off of emotions while guys go based off of solving problems and, you
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And while you're working in a masculine environment, they teach you, you know, do what you're told
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When it comes to, like I said, the example with the nail salon, you work around women.
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All you hear is, you know, family, kids, things like that.
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It should include a lot of like the environment should be high stakes.
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You're dealing with a lot of projects like consulting or real estate.
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Like I worked, I had three bosses in their forties.
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The guys who were like buying $20 million shopping centers and the intensity there is insane.
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People are like literally making those deals every day.
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And it's very hard to keep up with that level of responsibility.
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You have to always know what you have to do today and tomorrow.
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It's like it's very, there's no place for emotion.
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There's no place, oh, I'm not feeling good today.
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They have millions of dollars being invested and they're going to not listen to you if you screw up.
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Even if you make a small mistake in an NDA, it's going to cost you your job.
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I feel like I grew up in an environment, well, I'm from New York.
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So I feel like I grew up in an environment where there are men and women in both.
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And I know women who are very successful and work for top brands like Macy's and Party City and things like that.
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And, you know, like I specifically know this one woman who's a very good mother.
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She was, she's almost 50 and they've been married since I think she's about 23.
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Well, in cases like that, majority of the time, I mean, I'm not saying it's not possible.
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I'm not saying it's not something you shouldn't do.
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But her being so high up like that obviously takes time away from her kids.
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So generally, traditionally, the man works and the woman takes care of the family.
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When you have a woman who is out here doing things that men should be doing, it knocks off the balance, like I said, between the both.
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Because it shouldn't be a competition between either two.
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Whether he works and she works, you both are taking time out of the home and away from the family and away from the kids.
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If you grew up with both your parents, if you grew up with your siblings, things like that.
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Because obviously, if you're a girl who grew up without a dad, you don't know what you're supposed to look for in a man.
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Because, you know, your dad is supposed to be the supportive one for you.
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He's supposed to be financially taking care of you and your mom and your sister.
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But if you grew up with no mom, then you don't have those feminine energies, I guess.
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Like, you don't know how to cook, how to clean, how to do anything like that.
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Because you took on the role of being the mother to your siblings or anything like that.
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Like, your background, your family, and things like that.
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But, like I said, by all means, you can go out and be a businesswoman.
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But just realize that when you take that role that is originally supposed to be masculine when it comes to owning businesses and such.
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So, when you decide to get married, it's kind of going to clash.
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There could be women that still have those feminine energies.
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He had said that it is close to simply impossible for a woman to do a man's job and come home.
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And kind of take off that armor of masculinity and fall back into her feminine ways.
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Yeah, I would just say there's always generalizations that we could put out based on gender.
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Which we have sort of decided and brought about biologically and culturally.
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And there will always be exceptions to those rules as well.
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Or our CEOs are working in predominantly masculine environments.
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But it is important to acknowledge that those women are exceptions.
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I mean, she could be a great wife, a great mother, and still have her businesses.
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But at the end of the day, it does still take time away from her kids.
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She's going to raise them differently than how they should be traditionally.
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And not everyone this generation is traditional.
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I was just going to say, I think it depends on the family.
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And that's kind of where I'm going, where I started, like, you should do what you want
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And if you want to go to society, that's awesome.
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But do you anticipate perhaps in your mid to late 20s that you want to have kids?
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And when you do have kids, do you think, do you want to be stay at home?
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I'd probably take a couple years off while they're younger and then get back into the working
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Hopefully I could have a job that would allow me to do that.
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And I would like to get the degree or the multiple degrees that I get in order to do
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I mean, I kind of agree with her, but I also agree with her.
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It's very hard because personally, I want to work.
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And I also understand that I'm the kind of girl.
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I just wouldn't be able to sit and wait till like, I can cook, I can clean, but I don't
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And I want to have kids and I want to have a family and I will have it and I will take
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But I don't want to forget about myself because I think the happy kid is based on a happy mother.
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And what makes me happy is my self-actualization.
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And until I reach that point where I would be happy with my position in my career, I will continue
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See, and like I said, children will always change a woman's perspective.
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Obviously, when you have kids, you go into fight or flight, you know, you're very defensive
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I find that a lot of people who grow up with people, with parents that aren't together,
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simply have a lot more problems when it comes to relationships or life skills in general.
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Being at home with your kids and creates a better bond with them.
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Meaning like if you have your mom or your dad who've been there, you know, your whole life,
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they've been around, they ask you how your day was at school, they pick you up.
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So we have, oh, I'm sorry, but soapboxing over here.
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For me, it's just the foundation of marriage is a religious one, and I'm not a particularly
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And as far as where religion or marriage applies today, it's pretty symbolic.
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It's a piece of paper and a trip to the courthouse, and I don't find it necessary.
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It may become necessary in life for taxes and health care and dealing with children and
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But just foundationally, I don't think it's the most important thing.
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Real commitment comes from that relationship that you share with your partner.
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Kids, communication, and what you've both decided is real.
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That piece of paper doesn't really do much, in my opinion.
00:39:14.200
Okay, so what happens if somebody cheats and somebody wants to go away, and he decided he
00:39:24.240
Well, personally, I make money, so I'm going to have plenty of money to handle myself, and
00:39:31.120
And I've realized that it's totally a situational thing.
00:39:34.340
My situation permits that I don't need to be married, and I don't need a prenuptial agreement
00:39:44.080
You also don't necessarily need to do the whole courthouse license thing to be married
00:39:55.420
And for me and my fiancé, for example, we're not even sure if we're going to actually legally
00:39:59.500
get married just because the government honestly owns your marriage at that point, and it's
00:40:08.960
We may, though, just because, yeah, it does kind of help with taxes and a lot of other
00:40:13.280
But regardless, though, that's why he and I already kind of feel like we're married
00:40:15.900
because the piece of paper doesn't necessarily matter either.
00:40:18.980
But I do understand where you're coming from because it is a lot of, like, I don't know.
00:40:27.860
They basically own it at that point, and it's not really what marriage is about.
00:40:35.060
The government involvement is very strange to me.
00:40:36.840
But also, I do think the institution of marriage does allow you to safeguard yourself, say,
00:40:42.840
if you need a prenup, and that's important for some women.
00:40:49.000
What if your husband or, well, your future husband says, hey, I want a prenup?
00:40:59.820
Because there's definitely some women who, if the topic of a prenup is broached,
00:41:06.860
they're going to be like, oh, you don't think it's going to last?
00:41:14.720
So, I think it's more like a necessity rather than if I want that or not.
00:41:19.060
What I've heard, and, you know, I think I'd like to get an attorney on to consult on this,
00:41:24.360
but a divorce attorney, prenuptial agreements can get thrown out.
00:41:29.280
So, even if you do have a prenuptial agreement, I mean, I think Dr. Dre had a prenuptial agreement
00:41:35.040
with his wife, and they were still able to, like, pierce through it.
00:41:39.480
So, I don't know the total details of that, but they can definitely be thrown out.
00:41:48.400
And, yeah, I just think marriage is an L in today's day and age.
00:41:52.480
I mean, there's obviously the tradition component if you're religious, but, you know,
00:41:57.660
when it comes to the government involvement and the potential financial ramifications
00:42:04.080
of having to unwind a marriage, it's just, it does not make sense.
00:42:15.220
You do, but you could have a life partner, for example, but you just don't want,
00:42:19.300
you don't need the government involved in that.
00:42:25.740
We are husband and wife, but I just don't feel the need to go and sign some paper
00:42:31.960
Also, by the way, guys, there's something called common law marriage.
00:42:43.820
Well, hey, thank you for the big super chat, man.
00:42:46.840
If you want to do it through Streamlabs, I'll even be more appreciative.
00:42:54.180
So, yeah, in certain states, there's something called common law marriage.
00:42:58.720
And if you've been cohabitating with someone for a certain period of time,
00:43:02.700
there might be, I think, some other components to it.
00:43:06.160
But basically, the government will view you as essentially married,
00:43:09.860
and you would still be on the hook for alimony.
00:43:18.600
Yeah, but you as a man will be on the hook if you will be married for that amount of time.
00:43:25.920
I don't know which ones are, but you may want to Google that, gentlemen, if you are.
00:43:39.360
Everyone I talk to that's married, even people that, even just adults that I meet in my life,
00:43:44.400
they're like, oh, by the way, don't get married.
00:43:53.920
There's certainly, especially, you know, look, if you're in a 50-50 relationship, even then
00:43:59.300
there can be, you know, there can be some, there can be a contentious divorce, and then
00:44:06.400
you're spending, even if the money isn't going to your partner, there's a dispute, and legal
00:44:16.360
Obviously, you have to pay the lawyer to, you know, go through the divorce.
00:44:31.040
Look, alimony is kind of calculated based on how long you've been with the person.
00:44:34.900
So it's not like you've been married for nine months, and you're going to be totally financially
00:44:39.760
But, like, it's still going to be an L at the end of the day.
00:44:46.640
And not having the government involved in your life, because then you're in the court system.
00:44:50.780
In the court system, there's an anti-male bias in the court system.
00:44:55.960
Brian, I'm an attorney, although not a divorce lawyer.
00:44:59.560
It is a fact that prenups are more for asset and resource allocation, not precluding one
00:45:08.500
Yeah, I mean, I've heard some different things on the prenup thing.
00:45:12.000
My understanding is the prenup can address assets prior to the start of the marriage.
00:45:20.300
But I don't think it can address, you know, maybe I'm wrong on this, too.
00:45:26.040
If you guys made something together or you came into wealth after the marriage, I don't
00:45:37.220
But if you're coming into it already wealthy, perhaps, I don't know if you know anything more
00:45:42.900
No, I've never even considered, you know, not getting married as a form of, or marriage
00:45:48.080
I just view it as an unnecessary step in my life structure.
00:45:52.420
So I'm not really focused on alimony or prenups or anything like that.
00:45:56.860
Yo, Martin, by the way, shoot me a DM on Instagram.
00:45:59.180
Um, and, uh, can you please confirm what kind of attorney you are?
00:46:03.960
I want to guess you're a maritime law attorney, perhaps an aviation attorney.
00:46:16.280
Motherfuckers, not you guys, just motherfuckers think that trees aren't expensive.
00:46:20.740
But you hear these disputes with neighbors, the neighbor cuts down a tree and you got to
00:46:30.200
So I think Martin, Martin is a tree lawyer, an arbor lawyer or something.
00:46:37.040
Um, so did anyone else have any further thoughts on this whole marriage thing?
00:46:43.440
I think I have a different perspective because I don't think we should live together before
00:46:47.660
So that's why for me, it's like a different, it's a switch.
00:46:51.220
You don't want to live with, honestly, I think even if you are married, like separate,
00:46:56.680
Yeah, preferably, like a mansion, maybe a castle.
00:47:04.100
I mean, if you can afford a castle, I don't mind.
00:47:07.140
Why would you want to get married if you're only going to see them once a week?
00:47:12.060
Well, I mean, he doesn't really want to get married.
00:47:17.540
I find it kind of odd though, to be married, but then live separately.
00:47:30.740
My grandparents did that because my grandma, my grandma snored too loud.
00:47:34.100
So my grandpa had to sleep in the other bedroom.
00:47:37.260
And there's times where I'm like, babe, I love you, but like, I really want the whole
00:47:46.860
Honestly, separate, I need at least three counties between, how about another country?
00:47:59.740
So, um, just a couple of quick stats on the marriage thing.
00:48:09.660
90% if she's college educated, 90% of child support payments go from men to women.
00:48:14.300
And 97% of alimony payments go from men to women.
00:48:18.020
So I think marriage is a pretty big L for men and they get absolutely crushed in the
00:48:27.260
So most, I want to give everyone the chance on this.
00:48:32.400
Before we, we continue on with that, um, I want us to quickly react to Natasha's makeup
00:48:39.700
We, we kind of brought it up the last time she was on, but we didn't really get to go do
00:48:45.220
So just to give context, I posted this on Tik TOK and also on YouTube.
00:48:51.720
Um, Natasha, if you don't know, um, she fervently hates makeup with a passion.
00:48:57.600
In fact, she, she's actually a, um, a terrorist and wants to, um, like plan terrorist acts on,
00:49:13.400
I'm kidding about that last part, but she does not like makeup, although she is wearing
00:49:18.880
So, uh, the clip went viral on Tik TOK, got eight, 20 million views.
00:49:29.060
So, and then I released in December and then it's just been picking up steam.
00:49:34.780
Something like 5,000 people have made, have used the original sound.
00:49:45.720
And it's basically, so we'll, we'll watch the video.
00:49:48.700
Keep scrolling, Carson, while I talk about this.
00:49:50.800
Um, so, um, basically she's just saying she doesn't like makeup.
00:49:58.160
And then like all these makeup girls on Tik TOK, which is apparently almost 5,000.
00:50:02.780
Well, there's a ton like did their makeup using her voiceover, which is kind of hilarious.
00:50:10.240
So why don't we go ahead and just watch it so people know what, what it is.
00:50:31.260
Makeup is, it's capitalizing on women's insecurities when it's something that they can easily fix.
00:50:37.180
I think it takes away from a woman, a woman's natural beauty.
00:50:46.660
When you read the ingredients on a foundation bottle, what is in it?
00:50:51.220
It's a bunch of crap that you're putting on your face.
00:50:57.720
So you have to keep buying more foundation to cover up what it's creating.
00:51:05.400
Before we have Natasha give her take, we're going to have the girls react, give their thoughts.
00:51:15.060
It might not be something that I share necessarily.
00:51:17.480
I do wear makeup, and I do recognize that a lot of when I personally put on makeup, it does have to do with insecurity and covering things up.
00:51:24.600
So I know that I'm personally susceptible to that.
00:51:27.460
And no, I'm not offended by what you said at all.
00:51:37.180
So I asked you this actually before we started about what mascara you use.
00:51:48.420
Seeing as, you know, I've actually seen your video on TikTok.
00:51:54.760
Because I had looked at your videos, and it was like, you can clearly tell when you do wear mascara compared to when you don't.
00:52:01.540
And your opinion being it's really bad for you, but you use something that literally goes around your eyes,
00:52:07.160
which you would think is way worse than putting something just on your face such as foundation,
00:52:13.900
I mean, I would understand if you were like, hey, I hate makeup, and you absolutely just don't use makeup.
00:52:20.940
But also, saying that it just targets insecurities for women, maybe some, you know, like she said,
00:52:28.020
sometimes she puts it on because she wants to cover something up.
00:52:30.840
I think a lot of women use it as an art, and it takes a lot of technique.
00:52:39.420
Like, when makeup first became a thing, people used it as, hey, like, I look ugly.
00:52:44.660
But me personally, and a bunch of the ladies here who are wearing makeup probably are wearing it just because they like it,
00:52:52.160
And that shouldn't be something that should be hated on, especially because it's a normal thing.
00:53:03.240
I actually, I think I had made a comment how she was wearing mascara.
00:53:07.080
I think it was just, I think it was like, you're very hypocritical,
00:53:11.420
talking shit on women and talking down on women for wearing makeup when you still wear makeup.
00:53:19.440
But saying that, saying, hey, I don't like something, but doing it is very hypocritical.
00:53:25.320
Like, it's like when women say one thing but mean another thing.
00:53:29.220
You tell everybody I am against it, it's really bad for you, but then you use it.
00:53:33.200
Like I said, I would agree with you if you didn't use makeup whatsoever at all.
00:53:38.040
I would just like to clarify that my sole purpose of saying that was mainly to just address that it is bad for you.
00:53:45.280
And so that is why any makeup product that I buy, while I only use mascara,
00:53:49.640
but anyone that I would buy and do ever buy are only organic, clean brands.
00:53:57.860
But yeah, I could definitely see why it can be hypocritical and can be perceived that way.
00:54:02.220
I think there is a big difference of only using mascara as opposed to like using the whole rundown, you know, like caking your face,
00:54:11.160
using every product that they have out there, you know, as many girls do.
00:54:17.420
I mostly just think that it is unfortunate that there are so many girls out there today that feel that they need to leave the house wearing makeup.
00:54:27.360
I think that's not a problem with the women, but that is an ill in our society that they have been brainwashed to believe that they need that to be beautiful or to feel beautiful.
00:54:39.620
And I, I don't know, I just, I wish that there was a way to change that.
00:54:43.960
But me saying that really wasn't a hit at women.
00:54:46.720
It was just to like bring light to issues that I find are very important.
00:54:52.800
I think it just could have been worded differently.
00:54:56.460
In a way that was more just, yeah, makeup's not good for you.
00:54:59.220
You should pay attention to the products you use.
00:55:01.560
And it is sad that women, there are women out there who feel the need to have makeup on before they leave the house.
00:55:08.160
So, like I said, it could have been worded differently or, you know, but I think a lot of people saw it and were like, damn.
00:55:15.820
No, I actually don't mind the way that I said it.
00:55:18.760
I know that it was very blunt, but I think sometimes you have to be blunt for people to listen to you.
00:55:23.900
For example, like, this is a bad example, but Andrew Tate, everything he ever said, if he didn't say it in the way that he said it, it would have never caught traction.
00:55:31.520
He would have never become who he was, you know?
00:55:33.500
And not that I was saying that to be like, I mean, Andrew Tate's kind of, you know, very rude and disrespectful, but, yeah, I wasn't saying it to be that way.
00:55:49.580
Yeah, but even then, I feel like he has a good point on certain things.
00:55:52.840
I feel like how you take it personally is on you, but he is very, he is an alpha male.
00:55:57.800
And that he teaches other men how to not to be pussy with my female.
00:56:04.240
Wait, yo, quick question, but we're going to continue with the makeup thing.
00:56:08.380
Andrew Tate gets, actually, let's say he doesn't even get released.
00:56:16.220
He invites you to Romania for a conjugal visit.
00:56:30.480
Like I, like I said, when I, when I listen to his, his podcasts or the things that he says,
00:56:54.520
No, I don't find him attractive and I don't care about materialistic items.
00:57:03.660
I do understand how some girls could take it, you know, take it to heart and take it
00:57:11.940
Um, her and I were actually having a conversation in the car.
00:57:15.760
I would prefer if I had great skin, you know, and I felt comfortable being on social media,
00:57:24.320
I, uh, dealt with acne ever since I was eight years old.
00:57:28.760
Now I don't really get breakouts, but I still have scarring and, you know, I get naturally
00:57:32.980
So I feel, yeah, I feel comfortable with it on.
00:57:35.180
I try not to wear it as much because it is terrible for you, but you know, so is alcohol.
00:57:42.740
You know, I personally don't vape anymore, but it's really about picking your poison.
00:57:51.340
How much microplastics we have in our goddamn bodies, but yeah, it's really about picking
00:57:57.600
And I also do find it at times in art and it is fun, but at times I also feel like I
00:58:02.560
just want to cry because I feel like I have to put on makeup and I'm tired and I don't
00:58:05.780
want to put on makeup, but I feel like if I don't, I'm going to be out and I'm going
00:58:14.520
It's going to be an insecurity issue for the rest of my life.
00:58:17.400
And I'm taking steps to better my skin and whatnot.
00:58:20.180
And I'm not trying to take over this whole conversation, but yeah, I don't know.
00:58:24.620
I can see it from both sides, but I do see how makeup can be very damaging, but I'm glad
00:58:30.300
it's here so I can feel better about going out.
00:58:40.800
Uh, personally, I don't wear it like on a day-to-day basis, but I think if people do,
00:58:48.260
And that like, again, like how you brought up a great point that, that like, it is bad
00:58:52.200
But there are so many other things that like we do that are also bad for us.
00:58:56.380
And I also think that like, um, I personally don't wear it like all the time.
00:59:01.080
I mean, I'm wearing it now, but like, I don't wear it all the time because you're right about
00:59:06.820
But I think it's fun to like, when you're like going out at night or something to like
00:59:11.440
Like personally, my favorite part of the night is like getting ready like with my friends
00:59:18.320
And, uh, but I, personally, I don't think like, I do think that it does feed into insecurities.
00:59:26.100
So I think kind of like if, I don't know exactly what I'm trying to say, but I think that if
00:59:38.480
you want to wear makeup or if you don't want to wear makeup, that's completely fine.
00:59:41.600
And that's up to you and nobody should be judging you if you do.
00:59:52.740
You were talking shit about it before the show.
01:00:01.320
Is it because you're sitting next to each other?
01:00:04.740
You can obviously say what is my opinion about that.
01:00:07.400
But I do it because I like how I look without, with it and without it both.
01:00:17.720
Maybe because I wanted to look better than I am.
01:00:20.380
I'm not ashamed to acknowledge that we all try to look better than we are.
01:00:26.680
But I don't, I don't think there's any way to like blame anybody for doing what they want.
01:00:42.320
Before the show, you were like, I'm going to rip into her.
01:00:50.280
And because I was like, that's the girl that made the fucking video.
01:01:12.340
Have you gotten any hate messages into the mic?
01:01:50.800
No, it's on my TikTok because I made a reaction video.
01:02:02.540
Can you just double down and be even more toxic about makeup?
01:02:19.740
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
01:02:20.700
Well, I'm not about to start attacking everyone here.
01:02:34.080
Because I got the longest nails here, so I'd love to hear it.
01:02:38.340
I have an idea that they want to scratch my eyes away, like, from the scary movies.
01:02:43.720
And I feel like a lot of guys told me it's a turn off for them.
01:02:46.940
I don't want to, like, say much here, but, like, I mean.
01:02:53.240
You do it only for yourself, only for your own self-fulfillment.
01:02:56.440
But I'm just saying, we all try to be more likable, and we all try to be approachable.
01:03:02.880
My nails are for me, and, I mean, even then, Nathan doesn't have a problem with them, so.
01:03:11.440
I mean, I understand not a lot of women can have long nails.
01:03:14.220
But what's your, like, I mean, you're saying it's scary, but is that why you don't like them?
01:03:18.440
Because I don't have any, I don't need to have fake nails to have long nails.
01:03:22.100
Maybe that's why people want to, like, the same with the makeup.
01:03:24.400
But I'm just saying, for me, it's a scaring moment.
01:03:31.940
Okay, well, I'll wear my bold stripper lash all day, girlfriend.
01:03:48.840
No, I'm just, like, from those, you know, horror movies.
01:03:57.440
Like, my eyes are just not exciting without them.
01:04:17.640
I'm going to try to line it lower, a little lower, a little lower, and then, like, line
01:04:46.000
Carson, just do, like, a little tricep flex just to...
01:04:49.440
So what do you mean by, like, men don't like it or a lot of men aren't attracted to it?
01:04:56.300
Do you base your decisions off of what a man would like?
01:05:02.140
Because for me, like I said, personally, the guy that I'm involved with, his dad did my
01:05:10.760
So, I mean, I feel like it's the same thing with makeup.
01:05:13.740
Like, if you want to wear it because it makes you feel good, then, you know, it makes you
01:05:17.600
But for me personally, like, I've always wanted to do nails or lashes.
01:05:21.760
And it's not that I wear it because I'm insecure or whatever.
01:05:26.780
I think nails are super cool just to see what other people can do art-wise or crystal-wise.
01:05:33.820
And I've always been known for having, like, wild-ass designs on my nails.
01:05:37.920
And they actually used to be longer and they used to be square.
01:05:51.280
If you guys were dating a guy and let's pretend you all have long nails and he's like,
01:05:56.000
girl, I really love you, but I don't like the nails.
01:06:02.100
I mean, with the guy that I'm with now, if he was like, hey, I don't like them, then,
01:06:13.400
Um, it's because we have a very good understanding with each other and, um, I do value his opinion
01:06:30.020
I also just want to say, too, you can, you can honestly tell when a girl is doing her
01:06:39.120
You can also tell the difference when a girl is doing it for herself.
01:06:42.200
She has a different kind of swagger, a different kind of style.
01:06:46.680
Guys like when girls take initiative and have confidence and have their own style.
01:06:50.160
I've, I've seen it so many times where I'm like out with guy friends and they see a girl
01:06:58.360
Like I like what she's got going on and you can tell she's literally doing it for herself
01:07:24.720
Well, actually most women who are insecure about themselves and do makeup or nails for
01:07:29.740
men are insecure women who do it for the attention of men.
01:07:32.980
And a confident woman doesn't necessarily always have to have the nails and the makeup
01:07:37.160
A confident woman could be just confident, not wearing makeup and just men like confident
01:07:43.580
They do the whole get up or they don't do makeup at all.
01:07:50.480
Not that other women aren't chill, but yeah, confidence.
01:07:55.700
Victoria, do you want to talk more shit about nails?
01:08:09.580
From a male's perspective, how do you feel about acrylic nails?
01:08:19.400
Like if you were talking to a girl or you were dating her, would you be like, hey, like
01:08:22.600
Like not necessarily like mine, but maybe like as short as hers or whatever.
01:08:27.180
Honestly, like the thing is, the type of chicks that wear fake nails aren't interested
01:08:46.380
It's kind of, I don't like the very, all the extra shit.
01:08:52.120
Brian, what if she's got like crusty cuticles and shit?
01:09:03.420
I don't think that has to do with maintenance and hygiene.
01:09:05.420
I want a chick that's ready for a fucking zombie apocalypse.
01:09:11.680
Bro, I could fuck somebody up with these nails.
01:09:30.240
No, I used to, I used to go to the gym when I had like a long square ass nails.
01:09:41.620
Okay, so your question is on the acrylic nails thing.
01:09:48.880
Me personally, I would prefer my girl not wearing it.
01:09:58.380
And there's chicks that don't like pasty motherfuckers like me.
01:10:13.320
I just happen to not like caked on makeup and fake nails.
01:10:17.520
And yeah, so, but keep talking shit about fake nails.
01:10:26.440
Agree or disagree with the following statement.
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I mean, also, too, like, again, women who wear makeup, we don't always wear makeup 24-7.
01:11:24.480
I mean, if you're going to bed with makeup, you should probably not.
01:11:27.260
I mean, you should probably take that shit off.
01:11:35.420
Like, and if I'm around you and I don't wear it, then, yeah, that's who I really am.
01:11:41.840
Now, going out into public, yeah, I'm just insecure about it again because I've had bad skin.
01:11:45.480
But like, when I'm around people that I love and I'm comfortable, I don't care.
01:11:53.240
Like, I'm around my fiance all the time without makeup.
01:12:01.540
This is actually the first time I've had nails in like over a year.
01:12:04.020
So, it's funny that I came on the show with nails.
01:12:10.960
So, I guess just my whole take on the whole makeup thing is, is that I believe that makeup is the most accepted lie in society.
01:12:31.860
Well, because I've had girls on and I say, I'm not necessarily, well, I'm not necessarily saying that makeup is bad.
01:12:45.600
And, I'll say that makeup is effectively, you're lying about your appearance.
01:12:55.880
I think plastic surgery is worse than makeup because you can take away the makeup.
01:13:06.000
Also, makeup enhances beauty that's already there.
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You can, if you're not symmetrical, scientifically, if you're not symmetrical, you can only, you can only put so much makeup on and it's not going to make you look that much better.
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Scientifically, attractiveness is based on symmetry.
01:13:25.900
Have you seen what some of these women do with makeup?
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You got like 13-year-old girls out here with like so much makeup on, they look like they're like 20.
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Carson, can you try to find that TikTok of that girl with no teeth who does a makeup transformation?
01:13:45.620
Just like search Google in another tab, just search for, hold on, search Google for no teeth, makeup.
01:13:56.140
They put tape on their face and they like put things in their nose and they tape their face and stuff.
01:14:03.300
They put on like huge contacts, tape on their face.
01:14:08.100
And then they take it off, they take it off and they look like someone else.
01:14:12.020
I think personally, like a lot of, like you were saying about the Korean girls, like you can use makeup for fun and things like that.
01:14:18.900
But most women use makeup to enhance their features and when you take it off, you normally look very, very similar.
01:14:30.200
I just don't have as long as lashes or stuff like that.
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But it's, I don't think it's a big change for most women.
01:14:47.160
I mean, I didn't think, I didn't think any of you would, would, would actually take me off on it.
01:14:56.920
Has this ever happened in the history of this podcast?
01:15:18.400
I don't, I haven't seen it, so I don't know if this is it.
01:15:37.820
Oh, actually, I think, I, it doesn't kind of look like it.
01:16:15.160
Yeah, that's a pretty big difference, I reckon.
01:16:20.980
That's, that, you can, you can close that out, Carson.
01:16:26.200
I, it's the same girl, but the other one's, like, way more noticeable, but, uh, yeah.
01:16:33.460
Um, so, okay, maybe we'll do the makeup removal later on in the show.
01:16:39.440
Yep, so, you're an environmental study, you do environmental studies.
01:16:45.400
Do you want to, like, do something related to that for your career?
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Not exactly sure yet, but I think I want to work for, like, corporate stuff.
01:17:01.760
Like, I don't want to do, I don't want to do field research.
01:17:04.060
I kind of want to more go into corporate and either, like, um, ESG?
01:17:11.020
Maybe, um, but I honestly haven't figured it all out yet.
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All I know is that I'm passionate about it and that I try my very best to be sustainable
01:17:24.360
and to conserve, and I also, I haven't really done it yet, but I do want to teach, like,
01:17:29.320
Gen Z and, like, younger generations how, and, like, specifically our generations of,
01:17:33.660
like, how to be more sustainable and, like, be more aware of all of our individual choices,
01:17:39.820
um, in a way that is, like, you know, because I think a lot of, um, things that people talk
01:17:45.740
about to be, like, sustainable are just not easy or, like, affordable for a lot of college
01:17:53.780
kids or, like, women our age, so I want to find ways to, like, like, currently right now
01:17:59.640
I'm working on a project for school that's, like, uh, about, um, how to...
01:18:07.940
Okay, show of hands, who believes in climate change?
01:18:19.400
Do I think it's something that we need to all be hysterical about and we, the world's
01:18:25.320
I don't think it's as catastrophic as it's been made out to be, but certainly climate
01:18:34.820
So, it's our, it's our, basically, a man-made problem where we are burning fossil fuels,
01:18:40.760
releasing greenhouse gas, and we are essentially changing the climate and creating a man-made
01:18:45.360
Happens with heating and cooling, and eventually the earth could become unlivable, theoretically.
01:18:53.440
But you're saying it's so important, that's important.
01:18:55.600
I'm saying it's not catastrophic, which means your, your life is not going to end anytime
01:19:01.100
Should we take care of our earth and work to be sustainable?
01:19:07.380
In the 70s, there was reports of, like, heavy, like, snowstorm blizzards, and they was talking
01:19:13.540
about almost like how global warming, but like, for, like, snowstorms and blizzards.
01:19:17.180
I honestly believe that the earth goes through cycles.
01:19:24.500
It's one of the theories that explains that there's different multiple theories about what
01:19:30.880
So, like, it, you know, this could be one of those things.
01:19:33.620
I was going to say, I think in our generation, all of us will definitely be fine.
01:19:37.700
I think the climate is slowly changing, but I, I think the climate is slowly changing and
01:19:44.300
we'll be fine, but I think that future generations most likely won't be.
01:19:54.440
The, the reason I bring it up, I have, you guys are probably wondering what the fuck are
01:20:03.740
So the environment, and I, I don't know, some of you stand really on this, but, you know,
01:20:10.420
there's a lot of environmentalists and sometimes I see them and they got like full face of
01:20:20.420
I think there's actions that you can take, or at least that's what some of them propose
01:20:24.760
you ought to do at the individual level, which I don't think is really going to be what is,
01:20:29.840
what it's going to take to tackle environmental concerns.
01:20:34.260
That's another conversation, but people often say, well, you shouldn't drink from, you know,
01:20:40.800
I was actually on, I've told this anecdote a few times.
01:20:43.440
I was on a date with a girl and she flipped out because I brought a water bottle with me
01:20:53.880
And, uh, no, she like tripped out that I brought a bottle of water with me.
01:20:57.920
She's like, that's, you shouldn't drink from balls of water because it's bad for the environment.
01:21:01.480
And so I noticed that she was wearing makeup and I was like, well, you shouldn't wear makeup
01:21:08.800
because the cosmetic industry, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
01:21:10.860
And I just, you know, it, it comes in plastic containers.
01:21:14.760
The materials that are within the makeup are harvested in Sudan and, or I don't know if
01:21:21.580
it's Sudan, they're harvested in various countries and have to be shipped over.
01:21:26.700
And then Mika, I think, I think it's called Mika or Mika.
01:21:30.840
Mika, you know, there's these, it's basically child labor.
01:21:36.500
So my proposal is for all the environmentalists, no more makeup.
01:21:46.920
Well, there's like a million, there's a million things we could all be doing right now to
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We're all wearing clothing right now, which takes tons and tons of water and resources
01:21:58.280
So we could drive ourselves insane trying to worry about all the things.
01:22:02.880
And I, so I'm not, I'm not necessarily in favor of saying, oh, we need to like really
01:22:08.620
We should have a, you know, stop using plastic utensils and that shit.
01:22:17.120
But my position is if, if you have a group of people that are saying, it's so funny,
01:22:21.920
like I'll see these people saying, oh, we need to, you know, stop using plastic straws
01:22:30.540
You know, they got pink hair and they have a full face of makeup.
01:22:33.320
I'm like, you're, that comes in a packaging and container.
01:22:36.940
And then there's the products that are inside that, that then seep into the water system.
01:22:41.960
Like throwing stones from glass houses is essentially what everybody should do.
01:22:46.480
So, uh, well, then in that case too, we should all stop driving cars, go, go electric.
01:22:53.380
All these celebrities need to stop taking private jets.
01:23:00.920
Um, there's, yeah, there's so many things that everybody should really stop doing, but are
01:23:06.640
Well, it's kind of like Leo, who's kind of a notable Leonardo DiCaprio is a notable
01:23:11.820
environmentalist and he's going on yachts and taking private jets.
01:23:17.140
And it's like, I mean, I'm not, I'm not super well versed in what his arguments are.
01:23:23.540
I'm not sure if he's making a environmental argument of on an individual level, you need
01:23:28.260
to limit your consumption, but I don't think private jets are the most environment.
01:23:38.420
Um, yeah, I just, I, I think that the point still stands that I think a lot of people
01:23:42.760
like to virtue signal on the topic of climate change and tell other people what they should
01:23:46.260
do while not addressing the stick that's literally stuck in their eye the entire time.
01:23:55.800
It used to be called global cooling, then global warming, then climate change.
01:24:03.600
It didn't stop the Obamas from purchasing waterfront property at $20 million.
01:24:18.760
Um, yeah, so I, I just think a lot of people are, oh, Cheeks donated $100.
01:24:25.220
Climate change sure happens, but in thousands, if not eons, of years later.
01:24:30.840
As a science professor, you want to be climate change, children need to read a book on how
01:24:35.300
the numerical sensors work within weather studies.
01:24:40.320
Wow, uh, Cheeks, thank you so much for the $100.
01:24:44.460
I'm, I'm very impressed by your, uh, your resume there.
01:24:48.000
Not only do you own, I think it was 70 Arby's on the East Coast, but you're also a science,
01:24:57.800
Cheeks, the, Beat and Cheeks, the multi-talented, uh, super patron of the show.
01:25:11.200
There's just a lot of hypocrisy surrounding climate change, and I think it's a hot button
01:25:14.800
topic that people get revved up about, but there's so much, uh, to, to worry about in
01:25:22.420
Uh, we are going to get a couple super chats in here, so let's see.
01:25:27.840
Stifler asked the ladies to rate their looks on a scale of one to ten.
01:25:51.100
All right, here, we'll, we'll start here and then go around.
01:26:01.540
I guess I'm being like, trying to be modest too, because I feel like if I say an eight,
01:26:04.820
everyone's going to be like, oh, she's a butterface.
01:26:09.420
If I take off the makeup, yeah, I'm probably a five, but I'm not with any of you, so it
01:26:31.700
Do you get a lot of girls who say they're tens?
01:26:53.380
Again, I am iffy about the whole topic, but I need to be educated more.
01:27:13.000
Yeah, tonight's, unfortunately, yeah, we had a couple of people flake who I think would
01:27:20.240
have been good, but sadly, I think we have a more based panel tonight.
01:27:35.260
Tuning in late, but I was definitely excited for this one.
01:28:00.880
And then, I don't know if any came in through...
01:28:05.960
Carson, can you pull up the recent events for Streamlabs here?
01:28:34.740
Ladies, give up makeup or give up on social media?
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There's no question mark at the end there, but we'll do that one.
01:28:43.820
So, would you rather give up makeup or give up social media?
01:29:01.200
So, I would give up makeup, you know, and just go more natural face, which I could work with, too.
01:29:08.340
But, like, if I could give up both and live my life without social media as well, without that income, I would honestly give up both.
01:29:17.540
I think social media is really toxic, but it's also, like, a great outlet to, like, speak your voice and have a voice.
01:29:33.000
So, we have a video to react to from, and I wanted to react.
01:29:37.180
We reacted to it previously, but I wanted to get this table's take on it.
01:30:10.660
First of all, every time I feel like we stamp out a roach, a.k.a. a white man with a podcast
01:30:21.000
So, we're going to continue watching the rest of it, but it's kind of interesting that
01:30:27.640
if you listen to what she said, she said, stamp out another cockroach, a.k.a. a white
01:30:39.920
If you were to replace white men with any other group, so stamp out a cockroach, a.k.a.
01:30:46.380
I'll let your imagination do the work, but if you were to insert another group into there,
01:30:51.720
whether it's a sex or ethnic group or whatever it may be, you would be canceled.
01:31:01.840
So, my kind of reaction to that is hatred, misandry towards, well, hatred of, how do
01:31:13.380
I want to, hatred of men, hatred of white people is just mainstream tolerated in society.
01:31:24.380
I mean, it's so funny because as a society, we talk about how much we hate racism, but
01:31:27.980
it's actually extremely socially acceptable so long as it's directed towards white people
01:31:33.900
And we're in this new era in the modern age where it's super trendy and fun to say that,
01:32:04.000
I know that there's a lot of controversy between that, how people can make a lot of racist
01:32:09.620
comments towards, like, white people, but if she were to say that, if you were African
01:32:14.940
American or you were Mexican or something, then people would be like, they would have
01:32:19.240
way more hatred towards it than just you being white.
01:32:21.900
And even then, you weren't even the only one to say anything.
01:32:25.520
Not everyone on that panel that night was white.
01:32:32.400
And I think it should be, it should be brought to people's attention that white people are
01:32:38.300
definitely put out there when it comes to us being racist towards them.
01:32:51.400
And also, I don't know too much about critical race theory, but what I've heard is that, like,
01:32:55.860
basically, if you are born white, you are automatically racist.
01:33:03.560
So I feel like that's why it's been socially acceptable for every, for, not everyone, for
01:33:07.820
people to take jabs at white people, white men.
01:33:28.020
I think she was responding with hatred to your hatred.
01:33:31.400
So, hey, well, it wasn't, she could have, it had nothing to do with his race.
01:33:50.260
You know, I'm basically, she's, she's saying she thinks she's a 10.
01:33:55.500
In other words, putting herself, she, she thinks of herself as on par with the most beautiful
01:34:06.660
However, um, I, I would have no issue with her, like, roast, and she actually, we won't,
01:34:14.840
Um, she basically just like, oh, this guy looks like he sells Bibles.
01:34:18.220
And like, she's like, she's like, this guy looks like a dwarf.
01:34:21.080
Like, but I, I don't make the claim that I think I'm a 10.
01:34:24.900
Um, but she could have attacked, oh, like, this guy's a dickhead, blah, blah, blah, fine.
01:34:33.580
But it's interesting to me that in response to the, that segment from our dating podcast,
01:34:48.180
To track the more audience, because imagine how many people were like, oh yes, that's what
01:34:54.900
Um, like it's, it's a way to attract, to appear to bigger audience.
01:35:03.460
But like black woman who probably think the same way.
01:35:06.620
You're about to say some, whoa, you're about to say some crazy shit.
01:35:17.940
No, I was saying that it's a way, I don't think it's a correct way to say.
01:35:22.280
And I don't, I don't like when people put like white, black, whatever.
01:35:26.340
And I think it's incorrect to appear to things you can't control when you're born.
01:35:33.800
It's something that you have, like it's just wrong and diminishing.
01:35:37.680
But at the same time, I'm just saying that the way she approached this response was to
01:35:45.480
Because I was like, I had similar situation in my life where the African American man was
01:35:51.980
started to tell me that I was racist because I was not answering his question while he was
01:35:58.400
So I was ignoring him and he said, I'm racist because I was ignoring him.
01:36:03.200
And I was in the same situation and I understand what it feels like, but it's just a way for
01:36:08.340
people to connect through those kind of labels or stereotypes.
01:36:16.600
I just think it's funny that her entire fan base, well, no, her entire, all of her content is based on
01:36:24.840
And I will say that in some videos, it's like, I mean, she goes for videos where guys are being
01:36:30.320
wrong and they're being disrespectful and rude to women.
01:36:32.360
But I just think it's funny that her whole entire, you know, she's only famous because she hates
01:36:43.500
So, yeah, it's just kind of interesting that it's basically just hatred of white people seems to be
01:37:00.760
So the original thing we were talking about was what's your most controversial dating take?
01:37:12.260
If I recall, you already went, you maybe needed a bit more time to think of something.
01:37:17.740
Um, I guess, uh, with the whole getting married part, um, taking the man's last name and having
01:37:25.220
like my children take their last name as well, even though they're both of our children.
01:37:30.500
Um, personally, like when my husband and I have kids, I personally would like them to
01:37:39.380
Um, I feel like names are very important in the world and names also, if they're rememberable,
01:37:45.140
it helps people remember you and getting in the world.
01:37:49.180
It's really not about what you know, but who, you know, and names get you remembered.
01:37:52.980
I mean, obviously that's not all you need to be successful.
01:37:55.920
Um, but my name, Morgan Lux, people remember it.
01:38:04.420
It's not that controversial, but it's just, I guess, an opinion I have.
01:38:12.000
Um, possibly we haven't like talked that much about it.
01:38:16.960
And we've talked about like our possible children names and whatnot with the last name Lux.
01:38:21.480
And yeah, I mean, we could possibly, we could hyphenate it too.
01:38:24.320
It's really, it's not that big of a deal to me.
01:38:26.240
I think it would just be nice for them to have a rememberable name.
01:38:32.640
Cause I don't want this chat to be like, Oh my God, that's not why.
01:38:35.340
And it's like, no, that doesn't determine your entire life.
01:38:41.660
So I want to give everyone just really a show of hands.
01:38:49.600
Uh, some of you though, don't want to get married.
01:38:52.160
So perhaps you're not going to change your name, but what are you going to do for your kids?
01:38:58.720
My name is connected to my dad who wasn't even around.
01:39:01.100
So it doesn't even really make sense to carry on that last name.
01:39:12.000
Um, I'm going to hyphenate, but I don't, I haven't thought about my kids, but I really
01:39:41.320
I, the problem with hyphenation is if everybody hyphenated on a long enough timeline after what?
01:39:49.300
Two, three, four generations, that's like 16 last names, son.
01:39:56.340
If you go two, then you got, then four, then eight, then 16.
01:40:11.300
And then what happens if you're hyphenated and then you, you get married and they don't
01:40:17.360
Maybe does it replace one of them or do you just, you know, scuffed?
01:40:38.440
So you don't want to take your, you said you're going to get married, right?
01:40:47.740
And he's contemplating switching to your last name.
01:40:52.780
But for the kids, I mean, possibly it's, it's just a conversation we've had.
01:40:57.120
It's not, if we ultimately decide for them to have his last name or hyphenate it, it really
01:41:03.000
I just think it might be kind of nice and or cool for them to like carry on my last name
01:41:09.000
just because Lux, it's short and it sounds great with a lot of names and it's rememberable.
01:41:17.380
It's not that big of, it's really not that big of a deal.
01:41:23.620
But would you, question, let's say there's an intruder, breaks into your house, boom.
01:41:46.340
I mean, again, it's not, it's really not that big of a, big of a deal.
01:41:51.120
Like we've, he and I have had conversations about it.
01:41:56.460
I mean, yeah, between him, he and I, we were having an open conversation about it.
01:42:00.880
If he really felt strongly about it, then like, I, you know, I would take his last name
01:42:05.820
if he really felt like, because I asked him if it would bother him.
01:42:09.040
He said, no, like you can have your last, like you can keep your last name.
01:42:15.100
If I were to get married, which I have no intention of doing, if I were to get married
01:42:22.240
and my wife was like, hey, listen, we're going to hyphenate.
01:42:30.900
However, when, when there's a home invasion, a break-in, you're going to go deal with that.
01:42:39.120
What if she like only hyphenated her name and all the kids had your last name?
01:42:45.600
Well, it's more, I'm thinking of it more so in terms of the kids.
01:42:55.460
I feel like, I feel like it almost sounds like a, is it an insecurity issue?
01:43:05.900
Oh, I'm just wondering like what the bother is.
01:43:09.820
Cause if you, if like, let's say not that you would be my husband, but like, no, I didn't,
01:43:15.640
But like, let's say we're having a conversation.
01:43:34.220
Someone needs to introduce you to the gospel of anthropology.
01:43:41.520
But the path you're on will only end in disenfranchisement.
01:43:57.800
By the way, Martin, shoot me a DM on Instagram at whatever.
01:44:02.920
So I'm just, I'm just curious just because again, like my fiance and I, like if he really
01:44:07.240
wanted me to take his last name, I would, like I would respect that.
01:44:22.540
Is it wanting to like, that's how it's supposed to be?
01:44:25.420
No, it's just like if you want like a 50-50, if you're kind of more like liberal, like more
01:44:30.020
feminist, whatever, you want the 50-50, then I'm like, all right, cool.
01:44:34.820
But like when the burglar comes, you're going to have to kind of take care of it.
01:44:41.320
And as far as like equality, well, equality, like men and women both work nowadays.
01:44:48.180
Like if we wanted to go back to like, quote unquote, how traditional used to be like where
01:44:53.340
the woman stays at home with the kids and cooks and cleans and the man brings in the
01:44:57.300
income, you know, like hunter-gatherer type stuff.
01:45:01.080
Like that's not really how it is always anymore.
01:45:06.780
And up until the 50s, well, I mean, up until very recently, that was kind of the standard.
01:45:12.520
And traditions are just changing depending on every household.
01:45:15.380
Things are different, but some people, some households have that, still carry that tradition.
01:45:21.420
Some, there's stay-at-home wives, there's stay-at-home dads.
01:45:24.200
I guess my issue is like, I'm all for equality, right?
01:45:27.180
But I don't like this buffet approach to equality where it's like, I like this, I like that, but
01:45:38.560
Paying for the first date, nah, the guys can keep doing that or splitting the bill.
01:45:43.180
Well, the guy, you know, I prefer the guy to keep paying for the dates.
01:45:48.900
You know, I want the guy to still be able to protect me, still want that, you know, so
01:45:54.060
50-50 is fine, but you want the benefits of equality, but not the corresponding responsibilities.
01:46:03.940
You don't really care about that argument, right?
01:46:06.680
Well, okay, well, that's specifically related to the hyphenation thing, but there are other
01:46:13.780
expectations that you have in long-term relationships.
01:46:17.660
So, and I, you can have, I suppose you can have kids out of wedlock, so it's not necessarily
01:46:24.000
I suppose I, actually, you know, I could have kids, but not want to be married.
01:46:37.040
You mean if you want to have kids without getting married as an example for your kids, is it
01:46:46.700
She's saying it's a bad example to not be married and to have kids.
01:46:51.480
Oh, I mean, TikTok's kind of already doing that for me, but...
01:46:57.080
Two-parent household is the most important thing.
01:47:03.860
So, kids growing up and looking up and seeing two parents is what's important.
01:47:07.740
It's not necessarily mom and dad went to the courthouse and they signed that piece of paper.
01:47:13.500
So, I think that should be the industry standard as it pertains to children.
01:47:40.920
So, your fine was going to dates with guys who are, like, 14 years older than you are.
01:47:46.920
Wait, who said they wanted to go on a date with...
01:47:59.580
She's talking about the age settings that you have.
01:48:02.340
Well, when we first matched, it was, like, a few days into Hinge, and I didn't realize,
01:48:08.660
like, I had, like, for Hinge, there's, like, one section that, like, for dating, and it
01:48:13.320
says, like, this is a deal breaker, and I didn't realize that, like, the deal breaker
01:48:18.680
But normally, no, I would not go for guys from his age.
01:48:27.960
Okay, so, I have your Hinge profile pulled up here.
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So, unfortunately, we didn't take screenshots of these prompts.
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Together, we could make up, should I do it in a girl voice?
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Together, we could make up fake, crazy life stories while talking to random people.
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It started, like, as a deep, and then it became southern.
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Well, together, we could make up fake, crazy life stories.
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Crazy life stories while talking to random people at the bar.
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Your prompt says, make up fake, crazy life stories while talking to random people at the bar.
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I'm an acrobat, you're a lion tamer, and we were in, I don't know, like, Romania, and
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All right, you have, I want someone who is a dime that's top of the line.
01:50:10.520
No, no, no, but you say, I want someone who is a dime that's top of the line.
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Wait, you don't know that's part of a song lyric?
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I want a dime that's top of the line, cute face, thin waist, and a big behind.
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And then you say, or a solid seven that will keep me laughing with a Costco card.
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Like, I've never really wanted to meet somebody over online dating, but I think it's like getting
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I think it's like fun to just like kind of like spark an interest again or just like,
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I haven't gone on a date with anybody from a dating app.
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I see a lot, that's what a lot of people are on there just for some attention or validation
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You want a dime, top of the line, solid seven will keep me laughing with a Costco card.
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We have, I'm convinced that I can fight anyone and win.
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She's just fucking someone up and what is that?
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Yeah, that's you getting all, okay, so you're, oh, it was a joke.
01:52:36.820
Well, it's a joke because then guys come into the chat with, I don't think that you can
01:52:58.820
To be fair, I didn't know that he was a wrestler before, but.
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By the way, can you do a tricep flex so we can see the tat?
01:53:52.160
So your most controversial dating take was what?
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Well, because you were asking for my most controversial.
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I'm very much like people should do what they want to do.
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And if somebody has a problem with that, then like F thumb.
01:54:14.820
Was there domestic violence in your past relationship?
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I said that I don't think people should live together before marriage, but only if you want
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I don't know if this is controversial or not, but I think that people shouldn't keep rosters
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I feel like a lot of people do that these days.
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That's the only way I think it might be controversial or something.
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I feel like that point's not overly serious or they're into polygamy, which I've been in
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like a polyamorous relationship with my fiance and I were dating another girl for a little
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It was kind of one of those things where we all love each other, but we all three of us
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knew at the end of the day, like we were all just like having fun.
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We all love each other, but like we all knew that it was my fiance and I at the end of the
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Like she had no intention of trying to all three of us be married and all be together,
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But yeah, I don't know if I could have done a relationship like that with anybody else.
01:55:49.700
Yeah, it was an interesting dynamic for a little bit, but other than that, I don't know how
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Did you struggle with jealousy at all during that time or was it...
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We were all very open about it, and I could see how somebody would struggle with jealousy
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But again, it was a very special case with this girl, and her and I have a lot of trust
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By the way, guys, there's 3,500 of you watching this live, so please, guys, like the video.
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Let's see if we can get us to 2,000 likes, 2,000 likes on the video, guys.
01:56:52.380
Maddie, if you're going to tell a fake story, you've got to add some action to it.
01:56:56.680
Like, be a Lyman tamer couple who lost all your Lions betting on the World Cup, then won
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all of them back in a Morgan Freeman karaoke contest.
01:57:09.620
You can't just, like, give out your whole life story.
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They have to be asking questions to be interested.
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This is a tough panel because I feel like everyone kind of is based a little bit to some degree.
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So what can I say to piss all of you off or some of you off?
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No, like, speaking to different guys, like, I've met guys who, like, absolutely care a lot
01:58:15.020
Like, personally, I don't, I wouldn't really want to date a guy that has, like, this huge
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body count, but it is normal, like, in society.
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And I'm not saying this is right or wrong, but it is normal for a guy to have a higher
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Can we ask what everybody else's, like, body count is first and then answer that question?
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Well, I feel like that'd be very helpful for, you know.
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I think that when it comes to women, that body count matters.
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When it comes to men, I don't think it matters.
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Even hot guys will want to fuck you because, you know, like, you got something and a lot
01:59:16.140
of men are going to want it, whether they like you or they don't.
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Like, if you see an ugly guy, whether you're an ugly girl or a pretty girl, you're still
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When it comes to men, like, it's way harder for them to just, like, hook up with people.
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Like, if you have a good-looking man, like, yeah, he can go and sleep with a bunch of
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people, but no female is going to sleep with an ugly guy or a fat guy.
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To get an easy way to move C-men from the bed to the toilet.
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And I can confirm, Brian is a master cat tamer.
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To get an easy way to move from bed to the toilet?
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Like, I think like two men, no one wants to be with a girl that lets anybody and everybody
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And when it comes to a guy, it is harder for them to have sex or get hookups.
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Yeah, I think that it's harder for men to sleep with women.
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I think I could go out like tonight and have sex if I wanted to.
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It doesn't mean that he's super hot, but I could.
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So I think for men, when they're looking for a partner, that it is important.
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Yeah, I think body count speaks a lot to what you value.
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And there will be guys who think a high body count is acceptable because they have the
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I think it's also important to acknowledge the connections made through sex are vastly
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Women have a far greater emotional connection when doing, you know, sex with somebody else.
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Whereas men can be far more frivolous and less connected when engaging in sex with another
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And there's like, you know, women produce a hormone when they have sex with partners and
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or when they produce that same hormone when they give birth.
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So for women, the more people you do have sex with, it just spreads that out a lot.
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Women who do have a higher body count have, and I've seen this in people that I know, they
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have a harder time maintaining significant relationships or relationships with significant
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I'll get some, some college feminists for you next time.
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Um, it's just kind of the way the, uh, cards fell, I guess.
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I was just going to say, I, I think I also value, um, a man who values their own body
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Um, I find that to be very respectable, honestly.
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Brian Stagg told the story of you being a lion tamer, cat tamer.
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Um, yeah, that just whooshed right over my fucking head.
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Maybe I, if I can frame it, I don't, I don't know how I'm going to frame it in a way to get
02:04:25.660
Well, he brought up cats, so, um, isn't it a deal breaker if a guy won't go down on you?
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I actually don't, I, hold on, I have to think about that.
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I find it odd that they, that a man might not want to.
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So, I, I've never come across someone that didn't feel that, I've never come across someone
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that's felt that way, that they didn't want to do that.
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Yeah, it made it really, it didn't make it weird, um, but it was a bit different.
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Yeah, I don't have anything really to say about it.
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I think if you're going down on them, then they should go down on you.
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If they're not going down on you, then there's, ugh, sorry.
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If you're not going down on them, then they don't have to go down on you.
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But I think, I think it's quality at that point.
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I'll have, I have a response to that, but I want to let everyone go first.
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Like, I'm not going to, like, suck your dick for, like, 45 minutes if you're going to, like, not go down on me.
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But, yeah, like, I was dealing with a guy who, it was a good, it felt like 45 minutes.
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And he just really didn't want to, like, go down on me.
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And it's definitely not a pH balance issue because I've had men go down on me and it's just fine.
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So, he really just, he just didn't like it, period.
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He told me he just didn't really like doing that with girls.
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So, okay, if, if a guy didn't want to do it, would you still go down on him, though?
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I think sex is really low on the priority board for me as far as a healthy relationship.
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So, you said that if, so, you would almost be, would you be vindictive about it insofar as
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if the guy doesn't want to go down on me, then I'm not going to do it for you?
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But I'd want to have a conversation and be like, hey, what's up?
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But I would also, like, preface the point that, like, I probably won't want to if you
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Would you kind of clown on him with your female friends?
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If he was like, this guy didn't want to do this?
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But I'm not going to, like, go into a whole room and be like, oh, my God.
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I think I'd, like, talk to it with, like, a close friend and be like, what do I do?
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But I'm not going to, like, like, they might clown on it or make fun of him.
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Well, as far as that goes, it's kind of like, I think about it in the reverse.
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Like, if someone told you, well, if guys were like, oh, your girlfriend doesn't want to
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I feel like a lot of girls would be kind of like, oh, that's kind of like, it's my choice.
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Yeah, but I, like, see the guy's point of, like, if you are dating, like, people have
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But, like, when you're in a relationship, like, people have sexual needs.
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And, like, I mean, if you don't want to do it, that's totally up to you and your partner.
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But, like, for me and a partner, that's, like, kind of what I partly want.
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And for, like, if some guy was like, oh, like, not, like, saying it in, like, a condescending
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But, like, if he had a problem with that, like, I could see, I could understand.
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Yeah, I guess my whole thing on it is, is that if it's just, like, I will not be in a relationship
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with someone who doesn't go down on me, that's totally fine.
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But I think when it gets to the point of, I otherwise like giving head on condition that
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I also receive it, that seems like a bit tit for tat to me.
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Whereas, like, there's certain, like, I think there's some things that your partner might
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And, like, for example, if you're, not to be crude, but if you're, if, say, the guy wants
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to have anal sex, maybe he doesn't want to get fucked in the ass.
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It is a different scenario, though, if you want to put it that way, because a lot of guys
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don't want to experiment with that either because they don't want to, they don't want to be
02:10:26.740
deemed as gay, even if, because the G-spot, the G-spot is in the man's ass.
02:10:41.200
So, like, if they fucked around with it, it would feel good.
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But a lot of men don't even want to try it because they're like, no, I'm not gay.
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I just, you seem very descriptive with the G-spot things.
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I haven't gone down on a girl since the Bush administration.
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I've had multiple long-term relationships since then.
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Actually, you said, I believe when we talked about this last time I was here,
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you had said that you just don't like that stuff, like, on your face or whatever.
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But then you proceeded to smell that girl's armpit.
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What was your statement about, like, why you don't like it?
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So what was your statement on why you, like, you just don't like things like that on your
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First off, I got some neck pain issues, you know, so it's tough.
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I'm an old man, you know, I'm getting frail in my old age.
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The neck pain, and then, look, first off, for any guy I recommend, at least you gotta
02:13:16.840
You can't be doing that shit from the start, because people be fucking people, a lot of
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So, like, my big thing is that in today's day and age, promiscuity is the norm.
02:13:32.500
So you have to, especially here in California, you have to anticipate when you're going on
02:13:38.440
the first date with a girl, or even when you eventually, whether you hook up on the first
02:13:43.480
date, the second date, the third date, you have to go in, assuming that she's sleeping
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So, to me, that would be, first off, I don't want to do anything with a girl.
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I don't even want to date a girl that's fucking another guy.
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Don't talk to me if you're fucking someone else.
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Don't even talk to me if you're fucking another dude.
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No, it's just like, I don't want to date someone.
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I don't want to, well, I don't go down, but that's one of the reasons why I don't.
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I don't want to have sex with someone who is sleeping with someone else.
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A lot of these guys in the space say, well, if she's kind of promiscuous, recreational
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Like, you don't even pursue a girl that's fucking another guy.
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If she's fucking another guy, I have no interest.
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So the dating meta, as it is, you basically have to assume that going in, that she's sleeping
02:14:54.400
So for that reason, I don't want to go down on a girl because the thought of she fucked
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a dude last night without a rubber, he came inside her and then I'm going to go down on
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So that's one of the chief reasons why I don't do it.
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Women can be equally disgusted at the thought of dating, hooking up with, performing fellatio
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And I think for a lot of women, it is, if, if you put it, if you articulate it in that
02:15:34.960
So to me, it's just, and look, I I've been on dates with girls who, and it doesn't, I
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I've been on dates with girls where they tell me like, Hey, I was on two dates this weekend.
02:15:50.600
I've got three dates scheduled and I'm like, cool, but like find somebody else, you know?
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Like you can even have an upfront overt conversation about this.
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Even if they tell you, Hey, I'm not, I'm just talking to you.
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A lot of girls might not want to risk losing you by being honest and be like, yeah, I fucked
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They're not going to be like, yeah, I just fucked someone earlier this afternoon.
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You know, they're not going to say that because they, I mean, maybe if they're real fucking
02:16:29.220
G's, they might say it, but, um, they realize like, probably going to like lose the girl if
02:16:34.100
I'm telling her I just fucked some other chick.
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So that's why I don't do it because trying to protect myself here.
02:16:49.800
Would you have like a problem if like a girl didn't want to go down on you?
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Um, it's not like, honestly, it's not a big deal to be, I mean, head's great, but, um,
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it's kind of a slight bummer, but it's not a deal breaker.
02:17:07.760
But it would be, but I would sort of view it like if it was a vindictive thing, like if
02:17:14.460
she wanted it from a, she otherwise does give head, but then doesn't because I don't, I
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I, again, not a deal breaker, I would understand to a degree, but I think when it comes to sex,
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there's some things that your partner likes that maybe you don't.
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And instead of saying, well, because you don't like that, I'm not going to do this in as a sort of
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I think that's kind of a weird framework, but if a girl genuinely didn't like giving head, like
02:17:48.760
a little bit of a bummer, but like not a deal breaker, I don't really care.
02:17:52.820
And like you said, there's more important things when it comes to relationships than, than sex.
02:17:59.400
So if you were in a committed relationship and she obviously got STD tested and you knew
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she was completely clean, would that change it for you?
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Are you, do you still just, you're just like, no, I don't really enjoy it.
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She could be, if that was a deal breaker for you, if that would make you want to.
02:18:21.920
Well, here's the, here's the secondary problem is if we're having sex
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and I'm just blasting, if you're just blasting, blasting, if I'm coming inside her, then, then
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So it's like, there's kind of no winning, I suppose.
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Well, if you did it before that though, I hope you enjoy my honesty at the least, but
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And I think it changes the pH balance a little bit.
02:19:25.600
But yeah, I mean, as far as like, if she didn't like giving BJs, I don't, it's not a big deal.
02:19:30.500
Um, I'd rather have a, uh, girl who just stopped reading my notes.
02:19:40.780
Um, so I, I just, I'd rather have a girl who I truly love.
02:19:46.800
She truly, truly loves me and it doesn't matter if either she gives bad head or she doesn't
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You know, she's, as long as she's enthusiastic when it comes to sex, like I, to me, I don't,
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Uh, let me get the soup chat while we're at it.
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Interested in everyone's perspective on, well, I think this is Kiwi now on finding, okay.
02:20:23.820
I'm finding a serious committed relationship as a man within the LGBT community.
02:20:28.320
Most guys within the dating world are overtly feminine and sexually promiscuous using apps
02:20:50.060
Um, most guys within the dating world are overtly feminine.
02:20:53.120
I mean, there's some masculine gay men, but, um, and sexually promiscuous.
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I think that's definitely true in the gay community.
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That's a tough one because I'm not gay, so I don't know.
02:21:14.460
Um, have you thought about, is there like a passport bros movement for gay men?
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Where it's basically men in Western countries, they're tired of the women in their home countries
02:21:30.860
for whatever reason, and they're looking to go overseas or, like, go to South America,
02:21:46.820
Why the hell would I put my mouth on something that probably smells like the sewer plus STDs?
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That's why men created vibrators for you dumb bitches.
02:21:56.080
I need one of those swimming nose clips if I ever.
02:22:00.260
Okay, well, your penis probably looks like a tiny mushroom that probably needs to get checked
02:22:05.080
because you probably have those, like, tiny little bumps on them and stuff.
02:22:18.840
This is actually, wait, Carson, can you see, yeah, look at that guy.
02:22:23.920
I'd also be a little concerned about the women that you're sleeping with.
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If that is the, uh, aroma that you are receiving.
02:22:32.720
No, that was, that was the end of my, oh, I was just saying, I think that it's fine.
02:22:36.640
If you don't want to go down on women, but I think your, uh, reasons for it, um,
02:22:47.460
And you probably don't have a chance of going down on a girl, even if you wanted to.
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Um, does it, you know, does it change anything for you guys?
02:23:09.560
Listen, Mike Davis, every fortnight, me and him, we have a long three hour conversation
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on the phone and I want to let you know that he's, he owns 200 Burger King restaurants in
02:23:23.380
North Carolina and other, uh, East coast States.
02:23:33.420
Um, yeah, we have, uh, powwows, me and Mike Davis.
02:23:37.260
Burger King is the worst fast food restaurant chain.
02:23:42.920
If you're going to own fast food restaurant chains, own something else other than a fucking
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What is your definition of misogynistic coming from that?
02:23:57.780
Like, what did, what did he say that was despiteful towards women?
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The sewage, um, and the, just assuming that everyone had STDs.
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Just assuming that everybody had STDs and the sewage.
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I think that like, if you don't want to go down, that's fine.
02:24:20.580
I mean, I think it really depends how you take it.
02:24:36.740
women also majority of the time lie about what they're doing,
02:24:45.880
So, I mean, I think that it's fair for men to not want to go down on a woman.
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Yo, Devin says here in the chat, Brian sets men up for failure.
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I mean, look, some women, it's going to be a deal breaker for them.
02:25:05.320
However, however, you have to be a man of principle in today's day and age.
02:25:12.020
And as a man of principle, I will have you know Devin.
02:25:17.800
That's like a, a, uh, ambiguate, what's the term for it?
02:25:32.140
Well, I told, I, if he doesn't like want to go down, I agree with you, what we were
02:25:36.160
talking about before about the, um, like the body count stuff.
02:25:41.020
And if he doesn't want to go down, that's totally fine.
02:25:42.760
But the reasons that Mike Davis said for, uh, not wanting to go down were very rude and
02:25:51.200
He also called us dumb bitches too on top of that.
02:25:56.720
Like nobody called out Mike Davis, like, Hey, you're a fucking loser for owning Burger
02:26:07.680
But I'm like, if you're going to own a chain, own a better one.
02:26:12.100
Burger King is, it's making a, it's making a resurrection.
02:26:17.980
If he's bringing in the finances and why does it matter?
02:26:21.640
But don't you want to be treated right as well?
02:26:23.460
Like, wouldn't you rather have somebody with like a little bit less money and where you're
02:26:27.660
very happy with them and they're treating you and like respectfully and you both love
02:26:35.760
I'm saying like, he could own 200 Burger Kings and bring in all this money, but you're
02:26:42.220
Like, wouldn't you rather have somebody who like respects you and you both love each other
02:26:48.780
Like money is definitely something that's like important for life.
02:26:52.880
But, but you're, you're talking about his attitude and what he said and what restaurants
02:26:57.940
he owns and such as if, you know, like if you don't want to be with a man like that,
02:27:03.560
I don't think it really matters what restaurant he owns if you're not planning to be with him
02:27:15.180
And I mean, he's very, obviously the comments about dumb bitches is not nice, but as for going
02:27:24.540
Keep it, come on, Mike Davis, we got to keep it respectful.
02:27:29.480
But if, if it adds to the conversation, you know, in my three hour power, you know, weekly
02:27:37.320
powwows with Mike Davis, he hasn't gone down on a girl since the Clinton administration.
02:27:58.360
What the, what were we talking about before that?
02:28:24.720
I haven't been able to trigger you guys on that.
02:28:42.400
I, I, well, I think that a feminist kind of gets like perceived in the wrong way.
02:28:49.940
I think feminine, like being a feminist is more about equality rather than, you know, saying
02:28:59.260
Like, no, I think it's feminists should all be equal.
02:29:09.460
Economically, politically, legally, in the family, in what sense equal?
02:29:19.000
Economically and politically, in your family, I think that that's up to you.
02:29:25.820
But when it comes to more of society and like government and things like that, just, yeah, equality.
02:29:35.220
Actually, I remember what we were talking about.
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I'm not going to just because I am a sex worker even, but it's not even that I've had
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the sex with a lot of people, but I'm not even going to say it because I'm not about
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They're not like me right now, so it's all good.
02:30:57.040
That's a sort of nebulous term because that could mean anywhere from selling feet pics
02:31:05.540
Selling feet pics, I don't really consider sex work unless you're getting nude and selling
02:31:11.060
Okay, how about all the way from taking, doing OnlyFans solo content all the way to being
02:31:28.560
Because when I think sex worker, I know it's sort of this umbrella term catch-all.
02:31:59.220
Not like through like, you know, a company, but just with your partner.
02:32:08.940
But so you mentioned, you don't want to mention your body count because you're a sex worker.
02:32:14.220
However, your body count, from what it sounds like, has not been inflated due to your sex
02:32:22.600
Well, I do, I make videos with other girls as well.
02:32:31.240
I suppose I'm more so asking like your, perhaps your male body count.
02:32:46.880
Maybe that's my controversial take is like body count is for you to share with your partner.
02:33:11.920
We matched on Hinge and then, um, we had a date planned and I didn't show up and then
02:33:21.880
And then after that, we've kind of just been hanging out ever since.
02:33:33.000
But, um, how many days elapsed from the point that you, uh, hold on.
02:33:47.540
I don't think you guys need to learn anything, but appreciate it.
02:33:51.500
So you met up, by the way, a scout in a Bradley.
02:33:57.920
So you went on, you matched with Nathan on Hinge.
02:34:54.700
Yeah, we were at a car meet and Nathan and Logan FaceTimed me and were like, hey, do you
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And so, because I was doing, because I was drinking, I couldn't drive.
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Um, if you see it, then you mean it, then you know you have to go.
02:35:59.860
I sell burgers for a living while you bitches sell your roast beef for a living.
02:36:06.680
Black Top can say what she wants, but if given the chance with a real man like
02:36:10.980
myself, she dumped that degraded cuck who lets another woman around.
02:36:18.200
Well, for one thing, I was the one who initiated the other woman.
02:36:22.640
So, and we had a very long discussion about it.
02:36:28.060
And the only reason why, like, I don't give a fuck.
02:36:30.140
Yeah, it's honestly amazing that you have 200, like, Burger King franchises.
02:36:34.640
I was honestly just digging at you because you called some bitches.
02:36:38.800
Like, if you don't want to take the heat, get out of the kitchen.
02:36:49.780
Thank you, Mike Davis, for that polite super chat.
02:36:54.940
So, can anyone sing that song with me, by the way?
02:37:03.080
Okay, so, you were at a meet, and was it your male friend?
02:37:21.360
Do you think this male friend of yours wants to sleep with you?
02:37:34.840
They were all buying your feet pics, is what you're saying?
02:37:40.380
You know how guys will be friends with girls because they just want to, like, hit it, you know?
02:37:45.100
They think there's a chance when there really isn't, and you've made it very clear there isn't.
02:37:48.620
Well, from last show, you were saying that you...
02:38:20.960
He drove you an hour and 30 minutes at midnight, basically,
02:38:29.080
That's one of the biggest L's I've heard in a while.
02:38:40.960
So, he drove you an hour and a half to Nathan's house,
02:38:54.660
We talked for about an hour and a half to two hours.
02:39:11.220
It sounded like within 10 minutes, you guys were having sex.
02:39:16.240
What was the period of time that elapsed from the time you...
02:39:26.640
What was the period of time that elapsed from...
02:39:52.060
Let me explain this because there's been a lot of hate,
02:39:56.660
Me and Nathan are not just hooking up with each other.
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We're building an emotional connection with each other.
02:40:18.760
You can't build emotional connection after building a physical one.
02:40:22.420
It's kind of nearly impossible to distinguish the two anymore.
02:40:28.900
So, like I said, me and him did have a conversation before we had sex.
02:40:36.740
they go on these apps, they hook up with girls, whatever.
02:40:45.660
as long as I do everything that I'm supposed to do, then...
02:40:49.740
Wait, so you feel like you're entitled to sleep with him
02:41:05.020
No, there's times where we hang out and we don't have sex.
02:41:08.840
Whenever he wants to do it, if we're feeling it, then we do it.
02:41:11.720
But that's not the overall purpose of, like, winning me out.
02:41:24.160
Like I said, he's definitely opened up my eyes to a lot of things
02:41:42.780
I think that we've only known each other for a little bit.
02:41:52.520
Would I be in a relationship with him right now?
02:41:57.260
But, okay, this originally stemmed from, I don't doubt that you're in a relationship
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or something with him, and it wasn't just a one-night stand.
02:42:05.460
However, the circumstances surrounding your initial meeting with him
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are calling to question, I suppose, your claim that your body count is only three.
02:42:17.500
Now, I'm not saying it's impossible that someone could go over to someone's house
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at 1.30 a.m., sleep with them one to two hours later.
02:42:27.320
However, I'm not saying it's impossible that you can have a low body count
02:42:38.320
I have been in two relationships before, like boyfriends.
02:42:43.720
The other one was about two weeks, but we were talking for like eight months.
02:43:20.240
Can I just say, I would be less concerned about the body count
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and more concerned that this guy's kind of using you a little bit
02:43:30.520
because it sounds like you're doing a lot of girlfriend activities
02:43:33.280
as well as engaging in sexual intercourse with him,
02:43:36.160
and he's keeping you there for that but not giving you the title of being
02:43:45.060
So I get that a lot about people just seeing it as like, oh, he's using her.
02:44:01.980
Like we have a good, we're building a good relationship with each other.
02:44:05.620
It's just, it takes a little bit of time because from his past and from my past,
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there has obviously been a lot of brainwashing from social media.
02:44:17.780
So I'm kind of learning from him and doing what?
02:44:23.180
Well, I was going to ask what, I want you to finish what you're saying.
02:44:27.840
But you said there's a lot of brainwashing and he's teaching you.
02:44:33.960
Finish your thought and then tell me what he's teaching you.
02:44:42.900
Like when it comes to, you know, looking for the right guy to be in a relationship with
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and how he should be the provider and then I should be the caregiver in that sense.
02:45:07.220
Because then it gives me more time to like cook him lunch.
02:45:14.240
Why are you doing this to a man that you're not even with?
02:45:22.020
When you get married with someone, do you like automatically flip a switch and you're like,
02:45:25.980
all right, now I'm going to start doing things that I should be doing in marriage.
02:45:32.120
We've been talking for like three or four weeks, I think.
02:45:33.780
I cannot, I don't judge you for it, but I just, I feel like that's a really weird situation.
02:45:46.040
Like how the guys know within like 10 seconds of meeting a girl, whether they want to date her or not.
02:45:51.020
Or like maybe not 10 seconds, but like a day or two.
02:45:54.980
When, when like, because if I was how I was before I met Nathan, he would, I would not be a choice for him to be someone he takes seriously.
02:46:03.640
So you think the definition of relationship and love is that you have to change yourself.
02:46:09.000
To feed their expectation and perspective of somebody you want to be with.
02:46:16.800
But that's just for me, like in a traditional sense, that's how it should be.
02:46:21.200
But if he's claiming to be a traditional man, why isn't he traditionally pursuing you and taking on that role of being your boyfriend and actually courting?
02:46:29.600
That's what I'm, because it sounds sort of like a situation where he's getting all the benefits of training and teaching you these things and having you do them for him.
02:46:36.520
Which is honestly, I'll say pretty great that he's getting you maybe to stop selling feed pics and doing something that could hurt you later on in life.
02:46:43.820
But he's doing all that without giving you the title that you deserve having been committed to those tasks.
02:46:55.080
You don't just start talking to, like, girls base everything off emotions, right?
02:46:59.180
So obviously when you're talking to a guy, like, if he gives you those things, right, he gives you the attention, he takes you out.
02:47:04.480
So, like, within, like, for most girls, in the beginning, you're like, dang, I really want to be with this guy already.
02:47:09.900
Like, you know, and then whereas guys, like, it takes a little bit longer for them to be like, oh, hey, I want you, you know, things like that.
02:47:19.980
And there's been other situations in his past where he has done those things and been taken advantage of to the point to where now, like, he doesn't stand for, you know, like, mistakes.
02:47:31.080
Like, for me, like I said, like, I did these things because it betters myself.
02:47:36.540
I stopped hanging out with people of the opposite sex.
02:47:39.860
I started taking care of myself and also taking care of him while he does the same thing for me.
02:47:52.300
We can debate and have honest opinions towards each other.
02:47:58.240
And, I mean, I guess unless you're really there and you see it for yourself, then, you know, from, like, from the outside looking in, it could be like, hey, she's doing all these things, but he's not giving her that.
02:48:08.020
But I don't expect him to be like, that's my girlfriend.
02:48:11.620
He tells people, like, yes, you know, like, I still hang out with her.
02:48:16.860
But it's building up a good relationship with each other before just automatically saying, hey, we're boyfriend, girlfriend.
02:48:27.240
What's the difference between what you're doing now and being boyfriend and girlfriend?
02:48:37.360
This generation is way too scared of commitment.
02:48:39.340
Even if we were dating, he would be allowed to do those things.
02:48:47.040
Why are you giving him girlfriend material, like, treatment, like, and being a good, like, as you'd say, girlfriend if he's.
02:49:10.540
But, I mean, like I said, like, my role is to, you know, be the feminine one.
02:49:17.140
While his role is to be masculine and do those things.
02:49:33.180
I was also going to say that in a respectful way.
02:49:39.660
He thinks he's this, like, Andrew Tate type of 19 year old.
02:49:43.620
I feel like everyone here is trying to warn you that this situation is sending off red flags.
02:49:59.880
But, you said he's providing for you, but he's 19.
02:50:07.000
Like I said, like, when we go out, like, I've never had to pay for food or, like, gas or anything like that.
02:50:14.200
Like, when we go out, he provides the financial stability.
02:50:20.160
Um, I think a number two with no tomatoes and no onions and.
02:50:33.340
But anyways, what, why, why do you guys see it as, I mean, if I'm happy and he's happy and we're, like, ever since we have started doing this, I have not had, like, I have been perfectly fine.
02:50:46.700
Like I said, like, I don't have to work if I don't want to, but he does give me the option and I give myself the option.
02:50:53.700
Like, of course, I have the choice to work if I want to.
02:50:59.180
Let me say what I think everyone's thinking here.
02:51:04.440
I think that the girls probably, all the girls at the table think that you're brainwashed.
02:51:08.700
That's perhaps, maybe, I don't know, or being brainwashed.
02:51:13.000
However, I, I think it's okay if you choose it and he chooses it, if that's what you've both negotiated and agreed on, to have a unilateral open relationship.
02:51:31.000
I'm, I think most men, that's probably something that's, most men can't pull that off, but would, if they could, would they?
02:51:40.280
And this is the thing, too, about that is, like, like I said earlier, when women have sex with men, or, like, she was mentioning, too, like, for us, it's an emotional connection, right?
02:51:50.380
We have sex with a man, and then we're, like, oh, you know, I want to do it again, or I want to see them some way, or somehow, and it just creates a different type of relationship than when a man goes and has sex with a woman.
02:52:01.980
Because men don't, men don't react based off of emotions, because that's just something that's feminine, and they shouldn't.
02:52:09.040
So, for them, like, they can fuck a girl and be like, whatever, you know, and never talk to them again.
02:52:14.500
So, for me, like, sex for him is just sex, it's whatever.
02:52:18.920
And, like I said, I'm not having sex with anybody else except for him, because that's my choice, and that's how it should be.
02:52:26.820
And, like I said, like, for him, sex isn't important, it doesn't matter.
02:52:30.100
Before dating him, would you agree to this type of relationship, or have you changed your thoughts on this since dating him?
02:52:41.100
I changed my thoughts on this because of Coach Corey Wayne and 3% Man, read the book.
02:52:48.020
But was that prior to dating him, or was that during while dating him, or starting to date him?
02:52:54.280
That was, like, when I first met him and Logan.
02:52:58.880
But this is the thing, too, like, I didn't, it wasn't, like, he didn't say, like, hey, do this.
02:53:11.460
The women here each seem to have self-respect, a brain, and a maternal instinct.
02:53:17.300
Speaking as a father of five who has been married for 26 years, please reject popular culture and save yourselves until you find a man worthy of you.
02:53:37.160
Has Nate ever, like, does he talk about, like, Andrew Tate at all?
02:53:48.860
What does that man, what does he suggest about relationships?
02:53:53.160
He teaches men how to be more masculine and, like, things like that.
02:54:01.840
He helps them with women not to be, like, simps and shit.
02:54:04.960
Like, you know how, like, you're not going to want to be with a man who is feminine unless you're just into that.
02:54:11.180
But you don't want a man who's over here crying to you, bitching to you, like, being more feminine than you should be as a female, right?
02:54:21.820
And even when you're in a relationship or you get married to a man that's feminine, it's not going to work out because you are supposed to be the feminine one and he is supposed to be masculine.
02:54:34.740
He's supposed to provide for you financially while you are supposed to be the loving one, the caring one, and taking care of, like, the kids, the family, like I said earlier.
02:54:48.440
It sounds like you've kind of been groomed to believe this double standard, quote, unquote, situationship relationship is okay.
02:54:56.220
And I guess if you're okay with it, but it sounds like you have been manipulated into believing these things, which, yeah, it's, I guess, free will.
02:55:06.360
But, you know, he definitely gave you these resources on these viewpoints and you're just, like, kind of, like, okay, I agree on this either because, A, the dick is really good or, B, you're very attracted to him and you want some, this sort of relationship.
02:55:23.620
I don't know who this Nathan guy is, but it's a very double, this is a very double standard situation.
02:55:30.860
Well, or C, all of the above on that, but didn't you say you were in a polygamist relationship or polyamorous?
02:55:39.840
For a little bit, yeah, but we weren't, it wasn't like one of us couldn't have sex with anybody else and the other person could, it was open.
02:55:48.560
But I see, see, that's what I mean is, like, I don't want to.
02:55:52.380
I don't want to have sex with other people because, like I said, as a female, I would get that emotional attachment.
02:55:59.300
It would be way more than just sex for me because I am a female and that's how our brains work, off emotions.
02:56:08.220
So, I mean, I understand, but I think you're, like I said, like, I'm not doing it because I don't want to do it.
02:56:15.080
The ins and outs of your relationship sound fine, so long as that's something that you'd agreed upon.
02:56:19.200
What I'm curious about is it sounded like you were doing all of these things without him acknowledging the fact that he is in a relationship with you.
02:56:26.420
That's what I, was the red flag for me, that he's getting all of this from you while not acknowledging that you are a main chick or even his girlfriend.
02:56:33.740
But that's the thing, yeah, so when we talk, when he tells people or they ask, like, yes, he will tell them, like, we still see each other.
02:56:43.300
Like I, like I said, ever since we have been seeing each other, he has not had sex with anybody else.
02:56:47.780
And even then, when, we've already talked about it, when we start dating or if we were to start dating, the cheating would be considered building an emotional connection with someone else.
02:56:58.460
So, you know, like meeting the family or talking about feelings or past or childhoods or, you know, like boundaries and stuff because those girls are just, it's just a fuck.
02:57:10.720
I just have to say that, but I feel like for, in most situations, maybe not Nathan, I don't know this man, but by opening that door to him, by saying, hey, you can go do this with other girl, that immediately opens the door for him to go and do that behind your back.
02:57:23.040
But that's, we have a, yeah, we have a good, like, I know, he knows I know, like, I know he's still on hinge, like, I know those things and I know that he's still on hinge.
02:57:36.460
Yeah, I think sometimes, I don't think it's a, you know, hard and fast rule on that.
02:57:40.720
I think sometimes actually opening up the floor and allowing for freedom in whatever way that pertains to your relationship is actually a really empowering thing for men and it makes them feel a deeper connection for you, whereas them knowing the door is open, they don't need to go through the door.
02:57:55.840
A lot of cheating, I think, comes from the fact that people know the door is closed and they know it's something that they can hide and keep secret and that's why it's so attractive.
02:58:04.460
Like, if he, there would be more of a chance of him doing it behind my back if I was like, no, you can't do it, right?
02:58:12.160
So, like I said, like, he has not been having sex with other people since we've been talking, right?
02:58:19.640
But he knows the option is there, but he doesn't have a need to do it.
02:58:24.340
Like, there's a difference between rather and could.
02:58:27.160
Like, would he rather have sex with me or would he rather have sex with someone else?
02:58:29.900
He would rather have sex with me, but if he could see, have sex with someone else, he would if he had the time.
02:58:36.260
But he doesn't deliberately go out of his way to go see other women.
02:58:40.100
And like I said, it's not an emotional connection.
02:58:41.740
It's literally just a quick fuck and that's it.
02:58:48.740
Like, if you have an emotional connection with someone else and we were dating, then it would be considered, like, cheating.
02:58:59.840
He doesn't have emotional connections with other women.
02:59:02.500
Like I said, he hasn't even had sex with someone else.
02:59:06.300
I mean, you said it would be cheating if you had built an emotional connection with someone else.
02:59:17.240
I mean, like, if she needs, like, a plan B or something, then, you know, that's obviously what he's got to do if he's doing that.
02:59:27.880
Did you say that if you went to go buy her a plan B?
02:59:30.500
Like, if some girl was like, hey, I need that because they're having sex and whatever.
02:59:35.800
But financially being, like, when we go out to eat, he pays.
02:59:41.960
If I want, like, a drink from Starbucks, he pays.
02:59:49.400
If he accidentally got a girl pregnant and she kept the baby, what would you do?
03:00:12.740
That's the only part I struggle with is that you're not the girlfriend and you're doing all this.
03:00:17.380
I think there's a lot of things that women tolerate in relationships that other women don't.
03:00:21.120
And if you actually view sex for men as being something that is surface level and superficial that they can do without engaging their emotions or feeling something for a woman, then maybe that is a playing field that's open in your relationship.
03:00:32.480
I don't think that's really something that needs to be judged too much.
03:00:36.880
But make sure you're in the relationship is my only advice.
03:00:41.180
The only thing I'm kind of confused about is, like, like I said, like, we've only been talking for, like, three or four weeks.
03:00:46.840
And it would be wrong for me to sit here and, you know, act like a completely different person or, you know, like, not do these things.
03:00:57.060
Because, like, when you start talking to a guy, like, if he's an asshole to you, if he, you know, never takes you out to eat, if he never does these things in the beginning, are you going to be like, yeah, I want this dude as my boyfriend?
03:01:08.860
Like, if he's, like, talking shit to you or whatever?
03:01:12.860
Obviously, you want him to do those things from the beginning.
03:01:15.360
So, obviously, I'm going to present myself in a way of doing these things in the beginning so that he knows what he's getting himself into in the long run when it comes to putting a title on it.
03:01:27.200
How do you, sorry, how do you trust him if he invited you at 1 a.m. to his house?
03:01:32.380
Like, how many you, like, you girls he can invite any day to his house?
03:01:40.980
Do you think with how the relationship started of you going there in the middle of the night, how do you trust that dynamic if he was so open to that moment?
03:01:49.140
Well, because, so, originally, when I got invited over, it wasn't, like, to do anything.
03:01:57.720
No, so he had, him and Logan had called me, and they were trying to find girls for the podcast.
03:02:03.020
And then they were like, hey, like, you can come stay here at Logan's house, and then we'll drive.
03:02:08.320
Because they were supposed to provide, like, the gas, the food, everything.
03:02:15.420
But that was the only reason, because I had lived an hour and a half away from them.
03:02:19.280
So it was like, hey, come here, we'll drive tomorrow.
03:02:24.620
Why you couldn't just came in the morning, early morning?
03:02:29.380
And that means I would have to wake up way earlier just to drive almost two hours there.
03:02:35.460
So you feel safe sleeping in somebody else's house?
03:02:43.700
But I understand, and I can see the judgments, or at least the self-opinions.
03:02:51.100
But, like I said, if I'm happy, and he's happy, and like I said, I'm not doing any of this against my will, okay?
03:02:58.860
He's not putting a gun to my head and saying, you can't do this, or you can't do that.
03:03:03.280
By all means, if I want to do it, I can go do it.
03:03:06.240
But I want to be with him, and I want to do those things for him.
03:03:12.220
So, speaking of putting a gun to your head, has a guy ever broached the topic of maybe this is a kink or something?
03:03:22.460
Like, has a guy ever wanted to hold a pistol to your head during the act?
03:03:41.060
Or would you be like, that's kind of, it's unloaded?
03:04:00.320
I think it says more about the person than just a simple kink.
03:04:06.560
So, going back on that, when do you think is the right time for you to start doing things
03:04:12.640
that you would originally do in a relationship?
03:04:18.240
When you start, when you start talking to a guy, like, how do you personally act?
03:04:26.320
Right now I am trying to change my perspective on the Sailor Moon.
03:04:30.440
All the women there are so sad that the Sailor Moon girl get picked by the alpha guy.
03:04:37.720
There's a lot of same relationship like that in Japan, so keep up the good work.
03:04:57.720
When you're talking to a guy you're interested in, how do you act?
03:05:02.420
Like, do you just, like, not do anything for him?
03:05:04.660
I think I would be, like, nice and cordial, but it would bother me, like, personally for
03:05:10.900
me, and this is just me, like, I would act like a girlfriend when he's only sleeping with
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Yeah, when there's labels or, like, if I, it wouldn't even honestly have to be labels.
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Like, if I knew, because, like, I've been in relationships where I've kind of acted like
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the girlfriend and we were exclusive for, like, a week or two, and then we went into,
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Like, it had to be, like, a very small amount of time, but, like, I would not be okay with
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him personally, like, acting like a girlfriend and him, like, having sex with other girls.
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But how would someone want you to be their girlfriend, like, if you don't act like it
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Like, I was just saying, like, how should you act then?
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And, like, if you want to test drive, you can take other girls to test drive them.
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Can I listen to what, do you understand what I'm saying?
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I do want to sing really quick for Al Niro, who donated the 15,000 Japanese yen.
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We're at congregation, we're at church right now.
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Immediately, that's when you start doing girl friendship.
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If you're working towards a relationship with someone, how else are you supposed to act?
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Like, I'm not going to want to be with you if I don't know how you're going to be in a relationship.
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That's like, if you get married, like, all of a sudden, you should just start doing marriage stuff just because you're married now.
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Not just through dates and stuff, but, like, life-wise.
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Your dad teaches you how you should be taken care of by a man.
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So, my dad provides for me because I am his daughter, just like he provides for my sister, who is also his daughter.
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So, when I'm at home, like, if I'm like, hey, like, I need money or I need gas, like, I can ask my dad.
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And if they have it, then they will do it for me, right?
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So, it's not only Nathan's responsibility until we get married.
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So, obviously, like, if we're just dating or we're just talking, then, yes, dates should be paid for, things like that, because that is his job.
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But if I need money elsewhere, like, bigger things, then, you know, I would ask for help from my dad.
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Sometimes I leave clothes there, and he'll just throw mine in with his.
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Actually, yo, let me put you guys on some game.
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But if she comes over the first time she comes over, have it already dry, but, like, ready to be folded.
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And then send her on a mission to fold your laundry.
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I'll have all the laundry on my bed, and I'll be like,
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Oh, shoot, I forgot to fold it before you came.
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I mean, see, like, me and him, we cleaned his house together.
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He cleans my clothes when I accidentally leave him there,
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He has not been to my house yet because I have not made that decision yet.
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and then I built that relationship with his family.
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Yeah, I mean, I will say the dynamics of my relationship
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are very similar to the dynamics of your relationship.
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I cook, I clean, I do all the nursery things he provides, he's there.
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If I need help with work or anything that's going on in my life,
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My only thing was I was just hoping that it was reciprocated,
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and in the way that you communicate it with words like training or teaching
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or I want to make sure I do these things for him
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because if I don't, there will be some sort of reactionary element
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not necessarily what exactly it is that you're doing.
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I watched the videos, like, what this guy talks about,
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And I just took from that, and I thought about it,
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Does this guy teach men that they shouldn't be loyal to their girlfriends?
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loyalty can mean different things to everybody.
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this conversation is kind of just going in a circle.
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Because they're in committed married relationships.