Dating Talk #63
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3 hours and 47 minutes
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187.41168
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Summary
In this episode of Whatever Dating Talk, we're joined by Alexa, a Twitch streamer, and Karina, a creative director at OnlyFansChic, a writer and content creator. We talk about what it's like to be a streamer on Twitch, how they got into the game, and how they came up with the idea for Only Fans Chic.
Transcript
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We are coming to you live from Santa Barbara, California
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Guys, a few quick announcements before the show begins.
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You get a cool badge next to your name and chat.
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So if anyone's down to help out with timestamps,
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we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.
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So please, tell us your name, age, and occupation.
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and a creative director at OnlyFans agency called Chic.
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I think judgment comes when you give a certain age.
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Like if I said I was 21, I might not get as much respect if I said I'm 32.
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You probably, I suspect you might get more respect.
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It depends on, it depends on the person, like honestly, but why does it matter?
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There's some people that really have mommy issues, so they prefer older women.
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Wait, so you normally don't ask a woman her age?
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That's not like the first and foremost question.
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Like I get you asking for my like username or my at, but like my age?
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Wow, that seems like a basic demographic question to ask somebody.
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Do you want to know like my ethnicity and like what my sexual preference is too?
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I'm from Uzbekistan too, so that's another free ball, but yeah.
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No, no, no, no, no, your name, age, occupation.
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I am a registered nurse and I do some content online.
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I'm 18 years old and I am a communications major at the University of California, Santa Barbara.
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Can I have you just tilt the microphone down towards you just to add?
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I go to Santa Barbara City College and I'm an entrepreneurship major.
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I go to San Diego Miramar Community College majoring in engineering with an emphasis in
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I am a poker player, Uber driver, fitness model, actor, comedian.
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So everyone's Instagrams are in the description.
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So we're going to go around the table once more.
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Current relationship status, single, friends with benefits, talking stage, situationship,
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So right now, kind of like talking situationship.
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My longest relationship was five years from 19 to 24.
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And then just a little bit of situationships after that, like during, you know, COVID bay
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I'm in a really serious situationship right now.
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So I'm in love, but I'm also not really in a relationship until I'm married.
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Yeah, like situationship, but like talking, like, yeah.
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What is the longest period of time that you've talked to somebody?
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I'm going to let everyone get through this really quick first, though.
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I'm currently single, but the longest relationship I've ever been in lasted a year.
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It was all throughout my junior year of high school.
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Besides that, let's say in college, what's the longest period of time you've been seeing
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Because you said you're a freshman at UCSB, correct?
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I was actually in a relationship about two months ago.
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I was dating that guy for about six months, but long distance is really difficult.
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I just wasn't getting enough out of the relationship.
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He would call me maybe once a week, like very little communication.
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It's just like, you know, you want more out of a relationship.
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He would call me maybe once a week, and then I would be trying to call him multiple times
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a week, and he would pick up maybe 50% of the time.
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Okay, so you were at least, you were trying to.
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Oh, no, I was absolutely putting in effort, but then it got to a point where, you know,
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it's really exhausting to be the one carrying the relationship on your back.
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My longest relationship, I would say I never really had a real boyfriend or real relationship,
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but the longest ever lasted was probably three years, I think.
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What about the relationship with the father of your son?
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Yes, I know who the father is, but I wouldn't consider a relationship because I just think
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I was, like, really brainwashed, and I got into it for wrong reasons, and it just led.
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Okay, so you then, you previously did proper sex work then?
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And then you're also, you said you do OnlyFans too, correct?
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Okay, so you're single and you said you've never really been in a relationship?
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What is the longest period of time that you've seen a guy?
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I mean, I was really in love with somebody, which is who took my virginity.
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I was in love with him since like, I'm going to say like 8 to probably 18.
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Yeah, as long as it wasn't like a grooming experience or anything like that.
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Well, because he brings on a lot of people with interesting paths, pasts.
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So, I'll try to get you connected with him if that's something that might interest you.
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I'm currently single and I've never been in a committed relationship.
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Have you, since you've been on the show before, have there been any suitors who have DM'd you?
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Well, I have a friend who's connected me with a couple of friends that she knows that she
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kind of wants to set me up with, but it's long distance and I'm not interested in starting
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And have any of the guys who DM'd you, have they offered to fly you out?
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I had one guy tell me to come to Toronto and then another guy told me to come to Nashville.
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My longer sleep, I'm in a relationship right now.
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So, I lost my virginity at 13 and I've pretty much had a girlfriend ever since then.
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I had a growth spurt from 8th grade to 9th grade.
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So I've had experiences with different types of dating.
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So I've seen a good amount of different species.
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Thank you for dropping your octaves a few there.
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So I have a theory that women that have never played organized sports.
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What's the connection between having a dad and organized sports?
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Dads are also supposed to show their daughters.
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You know, Davon, thank you so much for the support, man.
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I want to give a big shout out and a heartfelt thank you to Davon, who's been one of our long-term supporters for months now, before we even really started picking up steam.
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So, Davon, thank you for your continued support week after week, month after month.
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I really appreciate you constantly supporting and being a patron of the show.
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And we can, oh, yeah, pull that one up while we have it.
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And 85% of all youths in prison come from fatherless homes.
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Fathers keep their sons out of prisons and daughters off the stripper pole.
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So, first of all, show me the studies and then show me how they gather that data.
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I mean, it's the majority of men in prisons were raised in single mother households.
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That's negating all the other environmental factors.
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It's not a guarantee if you're raised by a single mother that you're going to become a criminal.
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I see that it's more likely if you use that statistic to kind of boost your argument,
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but that statistic in and of itself isn't a good argument.
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It's one facet to a very complicated social structure.
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Well, actually, one of the strongest predictors of criminality, aside from socioeconomics,
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is growing up in a one-parent, or it's not even necessarily one-parent household.
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Like, there are indicators, and you can pull out these, like, data points, of course.
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Like, you can say, like, you know, if you wear a bra to bed, if 51% of women that wear a bra to bed get breast cancer,
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you can say wearing a bra to bed causes breast cancer.
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But you're not, like, looking at, okay, what's the air quality like in that area?
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What kind of, like, policing is around that area that causes them to stay in that area more?
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What kind of policing causes breast cancer, though?
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We're going to be the dumbest thing I've seen today.
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Regardless of the example, my point is that one data point, even if you can pull out data points and say,
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hey, this is, like, more likely in this scenario, true, but that doesn't cause it...
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Okay, removing all the stats, and they have done studies on this, and, you know, they take quite a bit of biographical information
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from, you know, prisoners upon intake, and, you know, they've done studies on this.
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Removing all that, though, I think it's just almost common knowledge that it's better to grow up with two parents versus one.
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And just because I might have a counterpoint and maybe a little devil's advocate doesn't mean I agree with the overall point
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that a two-parent household is better and creates more well-rounded people.
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It's not a strong argument, and, like, it's an incorrect use of data.
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The data point in and of itself is a fact, but the conclusion that you're drawing from the data point
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That's like saying all the people in the NBA, like, the percentage of NBA players that are black are 75%.
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But being black isn't the overall factor of why they're in the NBA, though.
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Like, their height, their talent, their athletic ability.
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I'm just saying it's a poor argument to make, to spend $100 to put on the show.
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I mean, I think the statement is essentially...
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I mean, do you disagree that the majority of people who are in prisons grew up without fathers?
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If you took a poll and that's what the numbers came up to, then I don't disagree with that.
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I would disagree with the statement that's saying they're in prison because they don't have fathers.
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To strengthen the argument that he was trying to make where he's trying to say that, oh,
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if you're not on a team sport and if you don't have a dad, you're a bad girlfriend.
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He just said that a double-parent household makes it less likely for them to go to prison.
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I've met people who went to prison and whose fathers went to prison and whose fathers' fathers went to prison
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and they're passing down a legacy torch of going to prison.
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This is a great statistics class, but I think ultimately...
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If you think this is mean or rude, I'm not going to sugarcoat myself.
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But, okay, if we're talking about something, we don't need the extra...
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Eric, so fathers keep their sons out of prison and their daughters off the pole.
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Now, if you grow up without a father, it's not like your future is written in...
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Like, you can still become a functioning member of society.
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It's not a guarantee that if you don't have a father, your life's going to be terrible
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And we can get back to the dating show after this.
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My whole point is that is a poor example or a poor argument to say that, like, it's just
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picking one data point rather than, like, a whole inclusive, like, scope of what's actually
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going on that put people in prison and put girls on the pole.
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So, it's like, you're drawing a straight line when it's really a zigzag, is all I'm saying.
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I don't want to say an ignorant statement, but it's just, like, an obtuse statement.
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So, I give strippers so much credit because they are athletes.
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If you've never climbed up on a pole, pulled yourself upside down, you don't know what working
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No, we're talking about, oh, women are putting themselves on a pole.
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Well, there are women that purposely want to go on the pole.
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It's like, you know, and my thought on not having a father, it's based on choices, okay,
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Because, you know, I've met people that did not have a good background.
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However, they made the choice to go a different route than the, you know, the spiral, right?
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Because you could get information from a friend.
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Like, a bad friend would be like, yeah, go for it.
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When it's, like, don't fucking, like, you know, not really there looking out for you.
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You're talking about why these people are where they are.
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It's not because they have a father and a mother.
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Because sometimes kids are screwed up with both parents.
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I think what she's just trying to say is that regardless of your environmental factors,
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no matter how much they may weigh on you, you still have individual agency and choice.
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She just said it with a bunch of different examples.
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Yeah, I could come up with a bunch of different things.
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It's like the same concept of me saying I've never been in a relationship before.
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Coming back to you, you said that you've had your longest anything was one week.
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I mean, I think it depends on, like, what your definition.
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Like, we are fresh out of high school, so we have a very different, like, relationship
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to the, you know, how relationships work with people.
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I never dated anybody in high school, and I never really spent, like, a considerable
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amount of time talking to someone in, like, a dating kind of way.
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That's, what, eight, seven, wait, six, seven months?
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So, I mean, in that period of time, you know, UCSB is the number one party school in the
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Also, like, different definitions of, I guess, because, like, sometimes we'll go to parties.
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Sometimes we're just hanging out with smaller groups of people.
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But, again, I don't think it's necessarily, like, just going out to parties as a purpose
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No, I'm not saying that you need to go to these environments to necessarily find a relationship.
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But the longest period of time you've ever talked to a guy, whether that's in college
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If I really think about it, I might have had someone who I was kind of interested in
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that I talked to for a little bit longer than that.
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But nothing to the point where I was like, I'm texting this person constantly.
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I think that we're going to be in a relationship.
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And so, kind of like, do you have a sense of what you're looking for?
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So, when were, are you currently seeing someone right now?
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Are you currently hooking up with someone right now?
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When's the last time you hooked up with someone?
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I think the last time I kissed someone was a couple of weeks ago.
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Yeah, I party every weekend, but that doesn't mean I'm getting with guys every weekend.
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But I mean, there's certainly, you know, like I said, UCSB, number one party school,
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it's definitely quite a bit of a hook up culture.
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And it does seem, I've heard from both men and women,
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that it seems to be, at least for people that live in this area,
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it's hard for people to find relationships because everyone just wants to hook up, right?
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I mean, you brought up the fact that we've been here for, you know, six, seven months, whatnot.
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But within that time frame, I have met a very small handful of people
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who have expressed wanting a relationship in any kind.
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So jumping into something serious right now is just not really desirable for me.
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So would you say you're kind of just doing your own thing?
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Do you occasionally will do hookups or not really?
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Like I haven't really been putting myself out there.
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Um, there was like one person I was seeing for like a very short period of time,
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Because that's the funny thing is that they don't.
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I have gotten approached at a party maybe twice since being here.
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Which, you know, it's, I find funny because I've, there's so many beautiful women here
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But, um, no, I've, me and my friends, like we never really get approached at parties.
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So even the men who do come up and talk to us, they're, um.
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I mean, you can have conversations with people, but just like a guy coming up to you being
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You said, but the men who do approach us, you were about to say.
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Um, I mean, it's again, very rare, but the ones who have approached me were like very,
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I couldn't really hold, um, like a clear conversation with them.
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I think the biggest difference from when I was growing up to the generation now is I
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They, we used to have, uh, used to go home from school.
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They used to have chat rooms that you could call and you would call the chat room.
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You would enter the room and you would just talk to people.
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You don't know where the, you don't know where they are.
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And you would just, no, no, this is like an actual, no, no, no.
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Like, um, I'm from Memphis and we, yeah, there was like a, yeah, there was a number you would
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call and then you would just enter the chat and then you would just talk.
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You might be just talking shit the whole time, but you might, might meet a girl.
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You just talk to a girl and that's, that's all you did was talk.
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This was, this was, yeah, this was pre, this was pre smartphone.
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So they could have catfished like, and yeah, you could have been, I mean, yeah,
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but yeah, you'd be like, oh, what school do you go to?
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So like, I think that's why I like a lot of people.
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Well, yeah, but yeah, that's, I feel like that's why, well, that's one of the reasons
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Well, I think the big reason is dating apps and social media.
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That's why, like in the past, if a guy wanted to get a girl, he couldn't just get on an app
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Like now a lot of guys have access to the dating apps.
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And whereas before, if you didn't approach a girl, you had nothing.
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Even if like these guys aren't successful on the dating apps, they still like, they're
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at least maybe getting some conversation, right?
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So I think not only are there more options, which I think you brushed on, but you also
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get more of a chance to decide what you're going to respond with or how you were going
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Like voice to text or something like video to video or a guy approaching you at a party.
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He has to actually think about how his like, how his swagger is, how he's, how his movements
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But now it's just like, if you're like spitting game, like text to text, like you could think
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Which I love and I hate for myself too, because I can think of something witty to say like
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But I was like, if I was like this in person, is this really me or is this just like me
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Like respectfully, most men will just like sleep with like anything or anyone.
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Um, if given the opportunity and chance, um, men will like fuck an apple pie.
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It did what it did at the time period it was portrayed in.
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That's like one of my guilty pleasure favorite films.
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This, was that where this one time from band camp?
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I used to, so I was in the marching band in high school and we used to always say that.
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I did, um, I did have sex with my couch at a point.
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Like the, there's like crevices in the fucking.
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Have you guys seen Big Mouth where he like literally fucks the pillow and like the couch?
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The guys watching, y'all have all done some weird stuff.
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Yeah, y'all hump the edges of like counters and stuff.
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So they literally wrote it into their big mouth.
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And it's not necessarily like any expectations.
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It's not even like, oh, I'm trying to get wifed or anything like that.
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It's just, I'm the type that I am a relationship person.
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So if I'm not in a committed relationship, then I typically just like date around.
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And then if I connect with somebody, I stay with that one person and it can be casual.
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So it's like, I don't mind if like he's, as long as there's clear communication, I don't
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mind if he's like sleeping around or anything like that.
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If I'm not now, if my like wants to shift to where I want to be in a committed relationship,
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So you said you're, are you seeing other guys right now?
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No, like I like, I'm a like relationship person.
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So it's hard for me to actually like, yeah, but it's like, I like to just pick one person
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So I don't feel the need or draw to like go elsewhere as long as like, it's a respectful
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Like, but not that I'm not like, Hey, this, like I'm only for you.
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I'm basically your girlfriend without the title.
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It's more just like, we have a mutual respect and I have all the freedom in the world to
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I just don't want to personally because I don't like to sleep around.
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So you could, so you can, if another guy were to come into the picture that you decided
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this guy, this new guy's better than this situation ship and obviously trade up or whatever.
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Cause like, like I said, I, what does that mean?
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Chad, tall, good looking, but yeah, you know, tall, masculine, masculine.
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Um, he doesn't play any sports right now, but I'm, he's an athlete and like.
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I mean like he's older, so he doesn't do those things anymore.
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Like he'll play pickup and he'll go to the gym.
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But he's an athlete, he's like really, really, okay.
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Um, was he a pro former professional athlete or no?
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Do you want to get married and have kids at some point?
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Um, I don't know about kids per se, but, um, like, yeah, marriage eventually.
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I think I just need to be ready as my own individual person and grow myself and focus on like career
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and stability and mental health and just being the best version of myself as cliche as that
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So you, you said you've been seeing it's on, on again, off again for two years.
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How long have you seen, um, how often do you see him?
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Um, probably like we talk every day or see each other every day for the most part.
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We like our friendship like is, um, I don't know.
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So it's like, if I'm working on my life and he's working on his and I can do something
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And if he can do something to help me, he's going to help me.
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It could just be like, hey, I'm picking up this at your house.
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Or like, you know, we kind of like have things intertwined a bit, but just as a friendship
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I mean, you, you say this is a situationship, but I mean, this sounds like a relationship
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I mean, not, not, not in title, but obviously like we-
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That's, I, that seems to be out of the realm of situationship, but, um, so, okay.
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Throughout the entire course of the situationship, was there any point, I know you said not now,
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you're not dating and seeing other guys, has there ever been a point where you're, uh,
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you've hooked up with another guy while you were maybe earlier on in the situationship?
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Um, like really early on, I was definitely like talking to other people and I was like,
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honestly coming off of like a pretty bad breakup.
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So I was like more trying to distract myself rather than like actually searching for somebody
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I, there was one person I like talked to and maybe like hung out with, but I didn't like
00:49:39.500
really, there's not like a lot of overlap if any.
00:49:43.340
So, but you're not like, you won't even go on a date with another guy, correct?
00:49:47.780
If I was feeling them, but I, to be honest, I just, one, it takes a lot of energy to like
00:49:54.400
go through the dating apps and all that kind of stuff.
00:49:57.360
And I don't necessarily, I'm a home body for the most part.
00:50:01.060
So I don't really have a lot of energy for that.
00:50:06.600
So, so, but yeah, like, um, so I don't have like the energy for that.
00:50:10.540
And I honestly, I've not dated that many people cause I don't feel as much as I can mentally
00:50:17.440
I don't feel sexual attraction to a lot of people cause I'm like a demisexual.
00:50:27.320
So you said that he's seeing other girls, correct?
00:50:31.660
Um, yes, I, we have an, like the respect for each other that if I asked him a direct
00:50:38.160
question, he would tell me, but if I don't ask, he doesn't need to tell me.
00:50:42.260
And I don't necessarily always like need to be up in his business.
00:50:48.340
I would definitely be open to that and like want more, but it's all about timing.
00:50:56.100
We've talked about it here and there, but what does he say?
00:51:06.380
It's more of just being on the same page about certain issues.
00:51:09.940
And then like, you know, men, they tie their emotional and mental health a lot to their
00:51:16.640
So, you know, with COVID and everything, a lot of people had setbacks and men often like
00:51:21.500
to do, like go it alone and like pull themselves up by their bootstraps and everything.
00:51:25.600
A good woman, in my opinion, could obviously help the situation, but men that takes such
00:51:31.180
a toll on their mental that they need to be in a good like space in all parts of their
00:51:38.240
Um, but it's not something that I've like pressed for and it's not something he's pressed
00:51:42.900
We're just kind of on the same page and we are in like a lot of communication about that.
00:51:48.340
I could see him being my life partner for sure.
00:51:51.520
And moving forward, would you continually be okay with him stepping out on you?
00:51:58.840
I think we, like you're the main chick, but he's got, he'll fuck a chick here.
00:52:03.200
But I wouldn't be mad at us mutually agreeing to certain things.
00:52:09.120
You get, you get older, you try a lot of things, you know, you don't know.
00:52:28.420
I have only had one boyfriend who I'm currently dating.
00:53:08.120
It's the Aaron slash Jessica attack again from Sunday.
00:53:11.840
Assika, would you consider bringing on Vince Dow and or Gavin McGinnis on show?
00:53:18.080
I'm not sure who Vince Dow is, but I know, isn't Gavin McGinnis the Proud Boys founder?
00:53:30.740
I think he's banned on Twitch, so that might be TOS for us.
00:53:35.700
Yeah, honestly, I don't really know enough about them, but never say never.
00:53:42.760
No, you said homo sapiens are, there's only like 11 mammals that are monogamous.
00:53:57.300
It's called Sapiens, but you've all know a Harari.
00:53:58.520
So just because that one person made a book, it's right?
00:54:04.280
I think that women are definitely long-term mating partners.
00:54:11.080
There has been a cultural, I think where it differs biologically and culturally, it's
00:54:16.200
been more culturally accepted, but biologically, lifelong mating partners.
00:54:24.680
It's what, because that's what's good for society.
00:54:27.520
Aren't penguins also long-term mating partners?
00:54:50.100
I think monogamous marriage is probably one of the best things you can do for yourself.
00:54:57.660
I thought we already all agreed that a two-parent household is beneficial.
00:55:03.460
So how are we going to have a two-parent household if we don't, you know, endorse and promote marriage?
00:55:31.220
If you can take care of as many wives as you can, you can do that.
00:55:36.740
I know a lot of Arab men who take advantage of that.
00:55:44.640
There's always going to be somebody taking advantage of somebody.
00:55:51.120
Oh, I was going to say there was a quote somewhere that said that Nick Cannon regrets having so many children with so many different women because he can't be in all of their lives, like, often enough.
00:56:01.980
He has, like, 16, like, well, including his wives.
00:56:15.240
Yeah, and he has the financial resources, like, more financial resources than, like, 99% of men.
00:56:24.040
Can you name someone who doesn't have an incredible amount of money that is in a productive, fulfilling, polyamorous relationship where their family and wives.
00:56:42.020
Of people that are poly and happy and whatever.
00:56:46.340
I just, I think that that is the, like, a small sliver of people.
00:56:52.020
And if women take up just a little more than half the population and most women are not down for that, then how are we endorsing relationships where men get multiple women at once?
00:57:02.080
Because the men that can have girlfriends are going to have women.
00:57:09.740
Like, the men that can get girls, they're going to get girls.
00:57:25.900
But what, like, do you think this would be a good thing if, you know, everyone in America or, you know, that was the, like, quota?
00:57:36.200
Well, that used to be the, that used to be how the world was.
00:57:42.920
And we've evolved to marriages, committed marriages.
00:57:47.200
Right, because that's what was better for society.
00:57:49.260
But now we live in a world with social media where the women, y'all pick, you decide who you date.
00:57:57.300
So, you guys decide to smash the dudes that are 6'8", 6'4", abs, attractive, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:58:12.160
Yeah, I mean, I guess you're, where are you going?
00:58:16.720
So, I don't go for the length, height, and abs.
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So, I want someone that has their stuff together.
00:58:45.180
But then I'm also dating in my 30s, mid-30s, almost 40s, right?
00:58:50.960
So, it's different than, like, when I was dating in my 20s.
00:58:58.000
But men in their 30s, I still consider, like, in your 20s.
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But those older men are still going to date younger women.
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I'm in a good age bracket, I believe, right now.
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But I don't think you understand what I'm saying.
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A man that, okay, what age of men are you saying that you date?
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Because maybe I came from Los Angeles and, you know, you see guys that are, like, 39, 36 still in the club.
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In my humble opinion, I think at 40s and up, 40s and up with experience, for instance.
01:00:21.840
Well, it just depends because J-Lo's in her 50s and she looks better than she was in her 20s.
01:00:37.540
I'm not, yeah, I'm not talking about the screen.
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So, you know, the thing is, different standards are changing.
01:00:45.280
But answer, if you had to say, when do women hit their prime?
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Oh, we, men judge what a woman's prime is, right?
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So, at what age do you think men, I like myself in my 30s, but earlier 30s.
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I don't know about other people in my life at home business.
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Like, literal, like, physical health or all over?
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Or are you talking about your actual, like, mental?
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When it comes to dating, what men are attracted to?
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So, why would a guy in his 40s, in his prime, not want a woman in their prime?
01:01:33.940
If you're thinking, like, back in the day, okay, like, like, biologically healthy bodies
01:01:48.180
When I turn 40 and I have money and I want to have a family, I'm not going to pick a woman
01:01:57.480
How will she have kids if she's, like, unless you have a lot of money, like, it's more dangerous
01:02:05.260
For men, technically, it's 45 if you want to be healthy.
01:02:09.220
And if you're, like, smoking weed or drinking or whatever, then you're going to compromise
01:02:15.840
So, you know, I don't want to get that detailed about it.
01:02:22.080
Like, with me, I waited way too long because I'm, like, going to be 36 this year as far as
01:02:27.740
children, but I do want kids, but it's, like, I'm going to put them on ice pretty soon, like,
01:02:38.100
I really, that's my plan because I'm not just going to go and find slick Rick and then
01:02:44.920
Like, I've, like, I'm careful because I want to create with a human being that I am going
01:02:53.320
to have to be able to co-parent with, whether we're married or not.
01:03:01.260
But it's, like, you, there's so many people that just hate their spouse, and they stay
01:03:10.980
Okay, so just to answer your question, I'm going to give men a little more credit and
01:03:15.160
say the ones that know that they want to settle down eventually, have kids, be married, I think
01:03:20.560
that they know at a relatively young age, I'm going to guess, like, 20.
01:03:25.100
So if you know that, you know, you want to be looking for a wife in your early 20s, this
01:03:30.380
is for the subset of men who are, like, I know I want to get married, they're probably
01:03:34.000
going to be looking to women around their own age.
01:03:36.460
So that's why I think we see marriages commonly between, like, 25 and 35 with, you know, non-age
01:03:44.280
But then, of course, older 40-year-old men want women in their prime, and if women want
01:03:49.500
security, and, you know, if I'm 22 and I just want security, and this older man's 40
01:03:55.260
and he has the security and wants a young woman, that's why you see that together.
01:04:01.280
So you said when you're, like, in your 40s, you want to settle down, and you'd pick a
01:04:07.320
What happens when she's 35, past her prime time?
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But she was saying, like, she didn't know her makeup or hair routine.
01:04:53.860
If I showed you pictures, like, fugly is, like, not the word.
01:05:09.660
And right out of high school, my first boyfriend was 20 years older than me.
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Obviously, because I'm 18 and I'm not even fully developed at all.
01:05:45.680
Earlier, I did, like, in the conversation, I did actually agree with you about, like, the two-parent household.
01:05:53.420
But what I'm saying, I agree with you to a point.
01:05:55.420
Because even in myself, I do question my own choices and who I pick as a partner.
01:06:00.300
And I attribute that a lot to, like, maybe I have something internal where, like, because of what happened with my dad, like, that's influencing my choices.
01:06:07.860
And as far as, like, the whole prime thing goes, what the actual problem is, too, is that, like, evolution and biology hasn't caught up to modern medicine.
01:06:18.580
So it makes sense that women get into prime childbearing years from 14 to 30 because they would die shortly after because we didn't have antibiotics.
01:06:28.320
But now people are living to, like, 80 and men can just keep reproducing.
01:06:32.400
I saw a lot of comments about, like, population and for the population.
01:06:39.180
But I do kind of agree with you that, like, of course men are going to be attracted to women in their childbearing years, which is much younger.
01:06:45.900
As far as, like, mental development, have you tried to have a conversation with, like, an 18-year-old lately?
01:06:51.880
Like, when I was 18, I was attracted to 18-year-olds.
01:06:56.260
When I'm, like, 27, I look at an 18-year-old and it looks like a little boy.
01:07:03.120
And it's, like, there's value in older women because it's, like, you have age experience, like, tact.
01:07:10.120
I find that so not a good argument because I think that I'm 18.
01:07:15.700
And I think that you just put out a really bold statement the way that women hate the way men do.
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Oh, all older women are this or all young women are that.
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I think that you become smart through experiences and reading and listening to smart people rather than just aging.
01:07:32.400
You can age well, you can age knowledgeably, or you cannot.
01:07:43.620
What I'm saying is, like, if I have a conversation with a 50-year-old, we don't have shit in common.
01:07:51.100
No, it's, like, even just, like, socially or, like, when you go to, like, social justice issues, politically, like, there's just age difference does kind of matter.
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Women age like milk in the summer southern sunshine.
01:08:14.900
Yo, by the way, Eric, I clicked off one of the other superchats.
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No, I really didn't mean to demean younger people.
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I'm just saying you're at different points in your life.
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What I wanted at 18 is very different than what I wanted at 27.
01:08:39.520
So, it's, like, you got to find somebody, regardless of age, what aligns with you.
01:08:44.180
So, it's, like, when I say I'm talking to an 18-year-old boy, that's not somebody that probably wants to settle down and have a family and get married.
01:08:50.800
So, it's, like, that's why I'm saying there's a disconnect.
01:08:52.740
But biologically, of course, older men are going to be attracted to younger women.
01:08:57.200
And I agree with, like, the whole, like, parental figure thing, actually.
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Yeah, it's a parental, it's totally a parental thing.
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I'm not going to even entertain that conversation.
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Older men who are attracted to younger women are not grooming.
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Grooming is in the context of, like, predators.
01:09:35.060
I meant it very loosely, as in, like, my experience, for example, when I'm 18, dating somebody who's 20 years older than me, what is the reason for that?
01:09:51.040
Money, security, all that other stuff that actually matters.
01:09:54.320
What I actually wanted was, like, essentially a father figure, somebody who can, like, tell me what's up with life.
01:10:03.540
I needed, got that philosophy out the way, and it's like, cool, I can start dating somebody who's, like, younger and more around my bracket of age.
01:10:11.540
That's my personal experience, and I just wanted to interject and say that that's possible.
01:10:15.420
That's possibly why you would be interested in a younger woman.
01:10:19.860
What happens with male and female relationships is males instill their philosophies to women.
01:10:24.400
And women, we either, if we love them, we're going to catch on to those philosophies, and we're going to be like, oh, okay, great.
01:10:29.520
Like, I'm, now, this might be my political party, or I agree with these things, morals.
01:10:35.080
Well, no, you have to do that to, like, you have to bring your girl on your same wavelength if you want to start a family, if she's going to be a mom to your children.
01:10:46.140
Absolutely, and I think it's easier to do it when it's a younger chick, but yeah, that's awesome.
01:10:52.740
I mean, it's healthier as far as the body, maybe, but, like, mentally, it's not for everybody.
01:11:00.600
Like, honestly, mentally, like, you're bringing a child into the world.
01:11:05.660
If you're still a child that can't even take care of yourself, how are you going to take care of another human being?
01:11:13.720
I think that women are born with inherent maternal instincts, and I think that there is such thing as, you know, teen moms that become great, great moms, and, you know, financially, they can't take care of themselves, so I'm a little confused where you're going with this, because if you have a man to provide you with money and security, what do you need to do that for if you already have maternal instincts?
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And I think that most women are born with those, and that's why most women become good moms.
01:11:36.800
But you can't, I agree, young moms are amazing moms, and moms are the best, yeah, we can go on all day about that, but there's something to be said about age and experience, life experience.
01:11:48.600
A lot happens in your 20s, and things level out when you get older.
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I mean, men don't want that, men don't want that in a put-man experience.
01:12:02.480
Like, you know, if they don't want us ran through and baggage and trauma, why are they, like, wait, they're waiting till, like, how are we, so, at 20, I should be looking for 40-year-olds that are ready to settle?
01:12:12.720
Like, I don't know how you, I don't know how you, it sounds like just a losing battle all around if you look at it, it's like all the responsibilities.
01:12:19.980
But it depends on if you're a wife, all wives are found, always.
01:12:24.740
If you're 20 years old and you're a wife, you're going to be found, period.
01:12:35.260
So, you know, in the perfect world, yes, like, I, you know, had a few opportunities to get married, but I'm very selfish.
01:12:56.180
That is why I've postponed from having children.
01:12:59.660
Because I even cried when I got my puppy and he would keep me up at night.
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And so when I have a kid, that kid's going to be my life.
01:13:21.040
So if I like my sleep, either have a kid or don't have a kid.
01:13:31.500
But, no, people think that it's very easy to raise children.
01:13:35.540
And that's why people are like, hmm, I wonder why so many people are going to jail or doing this or doing that.
01:13:42.320
Does anybody else here have a kid or am I the only one who has a kid here?
01:13:46.080
Because I'm really the only one who can speak on the topic of even having and raising a child.
01:13:52.120
We're all adults and we all have rational faculties.
01:13:54.900
Especially as a mother, I completely understand what you're saying, like the mental readiness of having a kid.
01:14:13.980
Some people have kids as a meal father as well.
01:14:33.680
So a wife is someone who is coachable, agreeable, nice, patient, caring, trusting, loyal.
01:15:14.040
So in your opinion, how many men currently just in what age ranges do you think are actually
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ready to step into that role versus how many women are out there ready to step in that role?
01:15:26.100
There are way more husbands than there are wives.
01:15:35.080
How many of them are ready to want to only be husbands?
01:15:52.220
I personally still have some growth to do, just financially.
01:15:59.840
So like, as a woman, I, in my long term, when I get married, I hope that my husband never
01:16:08.060
had a stage where he was dating multiple women at a time.
01:16:10.500
I want to be with a man that always had his eye on one person and will not have a wandering
01:16:25.820
Because I think that we use the word dating like it's sacred nowadays.
01:16:30.440
Like, when I think of dating, I think of like, you know, back in the day, oh, yeah, I dated
01:16:38.440
Having, you know, so it's totally fine with me if my future husband is dating multiple people
01:16:44.400
at a time, going to dinner with her, seeing her, whatever.
01:16:47.080
But what it sounds like you are in is like a polyamorous relationship.
01:16:50.320
And I would not be okay with marrying someone who has previously been in a polyamorously
01:16:58.980
Like I said earlier, men that can get women always, like, does your boyfriend watch porn?
01:17:16.080
He wants, we've had a culture that's pushed on us.
01:17:23.800
But they've been dating since they were 14 and 16.
01:17:26.580
So when he's 16 and, like, a young guy at the peak of his sexual drive, how are you
01:17:32.400
going to say that now he, like, I just think that's unfair to say because he watched porn
01:17:54.320
Okay, we have a super chat here from Mark Quavius Martin.
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Ladies, can you name one thing that women have been given autonomy over and haven't decimated
01:18:11.160
Educational system, corporate world, social media voting, consumerism, child raising, marriage
01:18:30.100
I think that women continue to be, in general, good, strong mothers.
01:18:34.600
But I think that the reason kids are so weak and soft these days is not entirely to the
01:18:41.220
There is no testosterone in our society anymore.
01:18:44.080
So there is not as much of a masculine influence over our kids.
01:18:53.700
I think that we've stripped men of their masculinity.
01:19:02.120
And you basically have women who have become more masculine and men who have become more
01:19:24.040
I suppose diet and there's plastics out there in the water and shit.
01:19:34.280
Our structures and our, you know, I'm all for capitalism, but capitalism has emphasized,
01:19:40.540
you know, just profit margins with worse products.
01:19:45.580
Therefore, just, you know, overuse soil and put soy in everything.
01:19:48.780
And it's not necessarily men's fault, but, like, our, you know, the people running our
01:19:53.440
country have just, like, disintegrated with, like, the, the just basis of what human beings
01:20:02.180
I want to give recent opportunity here because you made a little face.
01:20:17.140
Um, because the way that I view feminism and the way I believe that, like, it's technically
01:20:21.500
defined, it's, it's about equality between men and women.
01:20:25.600
It's not trying to make men less masculine or women.
01:20:36.640
Let's just start civilization over is what they're saying.
01:20:39.880
Yeah, I don't know why it's, uh, yeah, I don't know why I'm not.
01:20:48.660
It's about equality and I personally don't view exploring the spectrum of masculinity and
01:20:54.100
femininity between both genders to be necessarily a bad thing.
01:20:59.180
Um, I think that, uh, feminism today has, uh, gone a lot further than equality and I think
01:21:05.740
modern feminism is a lot different than feminism was maybe...
01:21:11.380
I mean, feminism's always been a man-hating ideology, however, it's taken, uh, quite some
01:21:20.560
Uh, I, I reject this idea that feminism is about equality and here's why.
01:21:26.020
I believe feminism in its most, if I give it the most generous definition is a women's
01:21:40.360
Feminism, feminists don't advocate for equality if said equality comes to the detriment of women.
01:21:47.360
So, if there is no benefit to be reaped by said equality in terms of benefit that benefits women, feminists will not pursue it.
01:21:58.260
So, you'll fight for equality if said equality benefits women, but not if it doesn't.
01:22:08.900
Women, for a period of time, I mean, it's a very small period of time when we're looking at it, but for a period of time, men had the right to vote, women didn't.
01:22:16.820
And, well, the reason why that is, is because men had responsibilities.
01:22:21.960
Chiefly, in order for you to be able to vote as a man, you had to be subject to military conscription.
01:22:27.220
Women never had that court, that responsibility.
01:22:35.560
That's a privilege to not go to the Argonne Forest in France in 1917 and go get chemical gas by the Germans.
01:22:49.720
The only, the only society that was, like, that was, like, the Vikings and, like, women fought side by side with men.
01:22:54.200
But, like, we are, grown man strength is different and you guys have different skill sets.
01:22:58.820
Just, like, you, you, men are physically superior.
01:23:01.920
Like, in, like, in, when it comes to just, like, actual physicality and, like, knowledge of the, the body.
01:23:17.200
However, that doesn't change the fact that some poor 18-year-old boy in Kentucky had to go the fucking, the Maginot line in France and go get trench foot and get fucking obliterated by a shell in 1918.
01:23:29.500
You know, I, I don't know if you guys know the body count on, the, the death counts in, or the casualties in World War I and World War II, which are almost exclusively male casualties.
01:23:42.340
Queens were much more likely to wage wars than kings.
01:23:52.480
Well, Brian, you said never say never in a screw you way.
01:24:12.100
Yo, Aaron Chambers, thank you for the big $200 donation.
01:24:20.780
But hey, thank you, man, so much for that big $200 donation, man.
01:24:26.200
So you said that men are to blame for the wars.
01:24:31.080
So I'm trying to return to my original point, which was.
01:24:35.980
The responsibilities that men take on versus women, yeah.
01:24:39.680
So you don't see women fighting to equalize the draft.
01:24:47.960
But I don't hear there's, women aren't in the streets demanding that they also be drafted
01:24:55.640
I would agree with you that society is extremely unfair to men and that the burden that they
01:25:01.140
have on them and the box that they're put in is, like, substantially unequal.
01:25:07.860
And while women have their issues, and those are important as well, I don't think it's
01:25:15.700
However, okay, we can look at, like, the queens and other societies.
01:25:19.600
But talking about America, let's keep it to America.
01:25:30.960
And you use logic and knowledge and debate and common sense to try and get to a place
01:25:37.280
But it's, like, saying that men have problems, too, shouldn't discredit any, like, women's
01:25:44.900
Because also, real quick side note, like, not all women had the right to vote.
01:25:48.740
Super, like, long ago, it was 1964 when black and brown women got the right to vote,
01:25:54.600
But also, and it shouldn't happen the other way around, either.
01:26:15.960
I'm pretty sure you're factually wrong on there.
01:26:23.520
They did technically have the right to vote illegally.
01:26:26.660
However, they had all these kind of, like, roadblocks.
01:26:31.340
Okay, so you're talking about intersectionality.
01:26:33.800
At the end of the day, women got the right to vote in 1920.
01:26:44.480
I'm not familiar with that information point, but it's kind of irrelevant.
01:26:46.500
We're getting off point, though, because my point is also that, like, women's issues
01:26:50.380
shouldn't negate men's issues either, like, at all.
01:27:05.920
No, I agree with you, but you are more subject to other forms that you're a protector.
01:27:11.900
I mean, you're going to be safer in a lot more spaces than I'll be.
01:27:14.520
So you should, you should, you should, you should advise.
01:27:21.860
I didn't want to, like, go all the way there, but that's, like, a main thing that women
01:27:25.880
have to worry about literally every single day, even just, like, on your phone.
01:27:34.240
Well, that's the solution to sexual assault is more strong men.
01:27:36.740
No, I, I'm not saying, my whole point is that our issues shouldn't negate men's issues
01:27:41.880
and society is set up unfair for many people in many ways, but to say, like, oh, well,
01:27:48.800
feminism is just, like, man-hating, it's just, like, a myopic view of it.
01:27:56.480
Feminism is problematic, because that's, feminism is created by women.
01:28:09.040
I think men have a different role in this world, and so do women.
01:28:15.040
I think we should have similar opportunities, perhaps, but, and the choice is for the opportunities,
01:28:22.180
I think if a woman wants to live a masculine lifestyle, that's her decision, but it's not
01:28:44.780
Do you know, in America, the death rate is higher than the birth rate?
01:28:52.180
A few of you guys said when he was, you got, we were bringing up the, being assaulted and
01:28:58.160
Actually, men are more likely to be victims of violent crime.
01:29:01.320
Violent crime, probably so, but we're talking about, yeah.
01:29:05.940
But also, I was, men are still the victims of it as well.
01:29:08.420
The gender of the perpetrator of someone who has victimized you doesn't undo the fact
01:29:18.540
You're right, but you can't negate, like, who are the main perpetrators and who are,
01:29:23.820
like, the victim, like, what is, exactly, it's a men problem.
01:29:29.320
When I spoke earlier, I was, like, primarily talking about sexual assault, where more, and
01:29:34.800
that is not to negate all the men that have been sexually assaulted at all, but if you
01:29:39.420
want to look at the numbers, primarily women are at a higher victim.
01:29:43.760
Not if you look at the prison statistics, men are more likely.
01:29:48.300
So, if you look at everything, men are more likely to get sexual assault.
01:29:50.640
But my point is that, like, women didn't create prisons.
01:29:53.500
Like, we didn't set up the systems that are causing the damage to both men.
01:30:04.040
So, you think that if women happen to have been in charge...
01:30:09.180
If women happen to have been in charge, you think they wouldn't have established a justice
01:30:17.620
No, I think the way that the American industrial prison system is actually just fucked up in
01:30:24.800
There are examples of other countries that actually rehabilitate their incarcerated people.
01:30:31.180
Yeah, this is very, like, socialist, like, um...
01:30:36.380
Can we just talk about rainbows and butterflies, please?
01:30:38.140
No, I was going to say, can we get to, like, some fun questions, honestly?
01:30:52.940
But just on the whole, like, well, it's done by other men, so it's just like...
01:30:56.980
So, men are killed by other men, therefore, that's not a problem?
01:31:01.940
Okay, let me put it in one thing, and we can honestly move on.
01:31:08.480
That's all shifting social norms and practices.
01:31:19.460
That is a perfect example about how any person that gets power can...
01:31:27.280
Yeah, like, when you study, like, Nazi Germany...
01:31:30.760
So, you're making it a male-female issue, and it's becoming divisive when really the issue
01:31:36.260
How we should look at our similarities and how we can help each other, and it's, like,
01:31:39.620
not productive to be like, well, this, what about, what about, what about isms?
01:31:46.080
I mean, but you have feminists to blame for this, because feminists, the core tenet of
01:32:06.380
If you teach this to women, you're basically teaching women to have contempt for men, and
01:32:11.340
that's what we're seeing playing out in real time.
01:32:16.180
Feminists are the one who have perpetuated this patriarchy theory.
01:32:21.060
Feminists are the one who pitted men against women and women against men.
01:32:25.540
Now, we as men are pushing back and saying, we're saying, actually, no, there are some
01:32:38.420
Feminism is actually really problematic in its whole ideation from the beginning of its
01:32:43.900
But, literally, my whole point is that I'm agreeing with you, is that men's issues shouldn't
01:32:52.600
And women's issues should not negate men's because women can't just be like, well, you
01:33:00.560
Like, I am making the point that, like, we are not to blame for the benefits that we do
01:33:06.020
get for, you know, like, being pretty girls and getting free stuff and stuff.
01:33:11.280
Men are very shit on in society, and they don't get to enjoy certain things like women
01:33:16.440
do, and they don't get to have the same freedoms when it comes to expression.
01:33:22.100
I said, I think men do get those privileges sometimes.
01:33:25.300
A lot of men that I have been with, and, like, even girls that I've seen on this show have
01:33:30.880
said, I have literally paid for a bum-ass dude our whole relationship.
01:33:36.160
And it's very common because men are more feminine now.
01:33:44.600
Brian, if we lived in Brian world, what would laws look like in the sense of, like, equality?
01:34:18.260
Well, there's a, wait, actually I have a list here.
01:34:25.700
Yeah, I'm going to stage a coup d'etat and get rid of the American government.
01:34:34.140
Well, I won't get into that, but so, was that like a serious question?
01:34:38.900
Well, no, I just like, because this is my mind when.
01:34:42.060
I also agree feminism is a man-hating concept, but I also am so proud to be an American,
01:34:49.940
and I love the freedom that I have with my country, and if I were back in the 70s,
01:34:54.500
I do think that I would fight for the right to vote.
01:34:59.000
It's, you know, but one day I also want to be a mom and all those things.
01:35:02.780
So, I think that there is somewhat of a balance.
01:35:05.280
Like, I think that the feminist movement did achieve some good things,
01:35:10.060
Do you think that the feminism movement as a whole should have just not happened,
01:35:16.420
and it should have stayed, you know, pretty cut and clean, women in the house,
01:35:21.180
Or do you think that we could have a little bit of improvement?
01:35:29.260
Where do you think the feminist movement should have stopped?
01:35:33.200
Well, I mean, you know, even the early suffragettes, first off,
01:35:38.840
If you look up the Seneca Falls Convention or something,
01:35:56.260
So, true equality between men and women, that's not feminism.
01:36:10.980
So, would you say you want equity, not equality?
01:36:15.580
Equity means playing your role and having it...
01:36:23.220
Equality is like everybody gets exactly the same thing handed to them.
01:36:27.400
Equity is everybody gets what's handed to them that works for them
01:36:31.820
specifically based on their, like, identity and intersectionality.
01:36:40.160
Equality of opportunity, but I'm not in favor of equality of outcome.
01:36:47.140
I see what you're saying, yeah, and I agree with you,
01:36:48.720
but what I'm saying is, like, would you go more for equity then?
01:37:02.580
Equity is getting what you need to achieve the same thing as everyone else.
01:37:07.280
And that puts us in a communist kind of headspace where people lose the right to...
01:37:13.680
Or lose the interest to think and dream and do great things and, you know, come up with...
01:37:24.000
I just mean, like, some people are historically more disadvantaged than others based on their identity.
01:37:39.640
And some people have disadvantages, systematic disadvantages because of that.
01:37:49.000
All men in this country are systematically discriminated against.
01:38:13.980
Somebody mute her mic for seven minutes so she doesn't bring it back to intersectionality.
01:38:25.680
Thank you, Mark Quavius, for derailing the conversation there for...
01:38:46.060
A stack is $1,000, and I will keep my mouth shut and actually leave the building.
01:39:36.780
I know I'm the rank queen, y'all, but I'm sorry.
01:39:50.900
She has some of the craziest game I've ever seen in my life.
01:39:53.480
I mean, I'll start with talking about the fact that I also date other women, so that
01:40:00.900
Do you think it's harder dealing with men or women?
01:40:03.420
I think it's completely different, and I think it's harder to deal with assholes, but
01:40:17.880
Also, men love conflict, so every once in a while...
01:40:35.040
You guys have never had great, amazing, mind-blowing sex.
01:40:42.740
Women love conflict and drama, and I'm going to tell you why.
01:41:01.800
A girl can be good in bed and also bring you peace.
01:41:20.620
You guys can go, like, banter back and forth and be like...
01:41:28.800
I'm just saying in, like, a best friend matter.
01:41:39.160
I don't think anyone, man or woman, wants conflict.
01:41:47.540
Like, if every single day is just the same cycle over and over again, like, that's why
01:41:55.540
You need a little bit of, like, even fake, like, fake jealousy or just...
01:42:04.000
No, this is the whole, you know, the whole trope that nice guys finish last or whatever.
01:42:13.080
Let's say 200, 300 years ago, you had a girl or whatever, blah, blah, blah, blah.
01:42:20.320
You went out, there was a chance you might not come back.
01:42:23.700
So, the whole time that you're going away from your woman or whatever, she's fucking...
01:42:34.400
But now we live in a day where there's no worry.
01:42:44.100
And I think men do, too, to understand that we care or that...
01:42:51.940
I think that you get the same drive out of having an intelligent conversation that possibly
01:42:57.140
Yes, disagreeing is important in a relationship.
01:42:59.820
I don't think it needs to be, oh, my God, did you look at her ass?
01:43:05.780
Let's realize that we love each other, and this is why we're together, and it's great
01:43:09.220
to disagree and expand each other's brains, because I agree, you're dating someone that
01:43:12.660
you're just constantly, oh, I agree, oh, I agree, oh, I agree.
01:43:17.780
Right, but what I'm saying is that's what y'all think.
01:43:47.560
I think that when you say, like, oh, men aren't interested in that, that's why I'm not interested
01:43:52.580
And then again, this is a dating podcast where we talk about general things, but in my opinion,
01:43:57.840
I want to be with someone that I can have good intellectual conversations with.
01:44:03.020
I don't think that there are men out there that also value that in a woman.
01:44:07.480
I would love to have great conversations or whatever, but I don't need conflict.
01:44:24.600
So, it's not necessarily that, like, you can agree to disagree.
01:44:27.880
Like, I'm sure a lot of people are telling me to shut the fuck up, and I talk too much,
01:44:34.880
But, like, being intellectually challenged and stimulated, if you want to be with somebody
01:44:38.360
for 40, 50 years, bro, you're going to get bored.
01:44:41.380
Like, if she's just like, yeah, honey, but, like, I mean, you still got to bring in the
01:44:51.800
You've never, like, got into a fight with your girl, and then, like, the sex is phenomenal.
01:45:08.080
If you want to have that toxic makeup sex bullshit, any guy who's, like, on his purpose, he's already
01:45:18.680
We want to have to be in a relationship with a girl that only adds to our stress level.
01:45:29.740
That's what you want, and I would respect that.
01:45:56.460
Can't we just like, can I not physically abuse you during sex?
01:46:03.380
I don't think it's about being physically abusive during sex.
01:46:07.320
I think it's like, I want a man to be assertive and take control.
01:46:53.400
You're asking, why does it always go back to sex?
01:47:01.140
Bro, most of the time I spend with a girl is not having sex.
01:47:05.740
No, no, no, and it shouldn't be, and if it is, that's kinky, but that's not a real relationship
01:47:11.420
But the ultimate goal of you establishing this bond with her is so that you could maybe possibly
01:47:16.540
create a family or so you can, like, do the do with her, so...
01:47:22.560
So all of that, which is why I'm saying the sprinkles and the...
01:48:25.520
I think it's what makes a relationship different than a friendship.
01:48:29.780
So you were talking about, like, being spicy or whatever, blah, blah, blah.
01:48:40.860
Like, a man should not be spending a lot of time with a woman.
01:48:49.780
My worst relationships was 24-7, we're together.
01:48:54.440
So when you do see that woman or whatever, she's going to be excited to see you.
01:49:05.620
It's impossible to get bored if you miss somebody.
01:49:09.100
So if your woman misses you, she's never going to get bored of you.
01:49:15.820
Do you guys think that we live in a society now where you would...
01:49:19.200
You personally would live with your partner in the same house?
01:49:21.980
Because me personally, if I get married, even then, I think I would want, like, a separate house.
01:49:26.060
Not to just, like, always be in, but, like, just to have my own personal space.
01:49:32.380
I'm 18, we have a boyfriend who lives together right now.
01:49:41.680
I enjoy living together, like, that whole thought.
01:49:44.640
But I think I would want, like, two separate houses connected with a bridge.
01:49:50.340
If I had, like, him pay money, I would love that.
01:49:58.780
No, I think that for the sake of my family, I would want them growing up with, like, a traditional image of a mother and father.
01:50:07.040
Oh, yeah, I guess, with kids, that's an exception.
01:50:16.480
And I don't ever see a point in my life where I'm not working unless I have young children to, like, take care of at home.
01:50:22.220
But either way, like, I hope that my husband and I spend significant time every day apart from each other.
01:50:27.980
Because then you do value the time you spend together.
01:50:29.720
But I would hope that I, you know, I wouldn't marry someone that I didn't want to sleep in the same bed as.
01:50:36.840
I don't know who here dates women, but y'all are mean.
01:50:40.580
So, like, hanging out with y'all, like, an extended period of time is just a ticking time.
01:50:45.020
Eventually, you're going to be mad about something for no reason at all.
01:50:48.380
So, like, you have to limit the time to spend around women.
01:50:54.340
You're saying women get upset for no reason at all.
01:50:57.700
So, I think that men and women have totally different brains.
01:51:01.420
And if you talk to men who have been in marriages for a long time, from what I've gathered is they can actually appreciate the way a woman's brain works so differently.
01:51:23.020
But you don't understand us because you don't have to to date us.
01:51:27.260
I think that women can more simply understand men than men understand women.
01:51:35.940
And I think that there's validity to that when guys are like, girls are so complicated.
01:51:45.400
How is it that we don't understand you guys if, like, our role.
01:51:49.600
Like, in my relationships, I'm pretty submissive in serving.
01:51:56.520
Yeah, but you have to be able to put me in my place.
01:51:58.560
So, you're conditionally, like, you're not submissive the entire time.
01:52:03.560
Would you say you're feminine in relationships?
01:52:14.660
I'm not saying that I can't do better and maybe listen more and talk less.
01:52:18.400
Like, I definitely recognize my faults and all that.
01:52:20.820
But to his point, and I have, like, a lot of room to grow.
01:52:24.540
I'm not saying I'm ready to be a full wife or, you know, develop.
01:52:28.220
But to your point, like, if we're in that role most of the time, we have to understand you in order to cater to you.
01:52:35.260
Like, we have to anticipate your wants and needs.
01:52:40.300
Like, if that's the role you want to take on in the relationship.
01:52:52.260
Again, like, on women understanding men and vice versa.
01:52:55.920
I feel like in my past relationships, I've had a pretty good understanding of how my partner's brain works.
01:53:00.160
Because I feel like if I don't understand them, we don't have, like, a real, actual connection.
01:53:05.120
Like, if we don't understand each other, then what are we doing?
01:53:08.220
Like, when I'm dating someone, I want to have a really deep, genuine connection with this person.
01:53:13.140
And it shouldn't matter that we're two different genders.
01:53:19.040
Or at least, like, communicate to get to an understanding.
01:53:25.340
Do you think that men and women communicate differently?
01:53:30.260
I think we tend to use different methods of communication.
01:53:35.980
And then it also comes to the point of, like, you know, how much experience do you have with communication and how comfortable are you with actually, you know, using efficient methods of communication.
01:53:45.020
Yeah, I think in general, and girls, correct me if I'm wrong, but when a guy pisses me off, my first instinct, unless we're, you know, extremely close and I feel that I can do this without backlash, like, I want him to figure out what he did wrong.
01:54:03.280
I actually, like, well, actually, I have a tendency, if I get really upset with someone, I have a tendency to go quiet, which is a bad habit to have.
01:54:08.620
Yeah, and you want them to know what they did wrong.
01:54:11.280
And then eventually, they don't understand because we didn't communicate, and that's a, I won't say a female flaw, that's just a female characteristic.
01:54:18.460
We, you know, we want men to buy us flowers without telling, hey, you want to, or I want you to buy me flowers.
01:54:23.580
We want men to open our door without actually saying, hey, I want you to open my door.
01:54:27.280
Or, so, in, you know, the context of a fight, we want men to know, we want the man to know what he did wrong or what he said to piss us off rather than just say it.
01:54:38.840
So, I'm willing to say it, though, because if I want, I'm willing to say it, though, because if I want to maintain a healthy relationship, I want to.
01:54:46.560
Oh, sorry, sorry, I was going to give you a ding.
01:54:50.580
Because if I want to maintain a healthy relationship, I want to say, you know, I want to present my issues that I have and what we can do to fix them because, again, what's the point in suffering and being upset in a relationship?
01:55:07.720
I think, though, that that comes with maturity and growth, but I agree with you on a baseline.
01:55:11.420
There's a great book, I won't go into depth, but it's called That's Not What I Said, and it talks about how women and men are conditioned differently.
01:55:18.080
Women are raised to be communal, men are raised in a hierarchy, and that conditions how we communicate.
01:55:24.000
But to piggyback off what you said, you said you want your spouse to.
01:55:29.140
I said a general statement, a general statement.
01:55:31.620
Women in general want men to do things without having to tell them.
01:55:35.340
Right, so I'm just saying that's why women are awful disciplinarians.
01:55:44.480
Some women proves there is a reason why most cultures and religions throughout history had to keep female nature in check via laws or theological doctrine.
01:56:13.960
Thank you for the big $200 streamlines donation, man.
01:56:22.440
So you want a guy to open your door, your car door, and if he doesn't, that's like a deal breaker for you?
01:56:30.820
Is that really a deal breaker for me if someone doesn't open the door for you that's like a deal breaker?
01:56:39.460
Like, if you're going to open doors, always open the door.
01:56:55.540
If I'm with a man, like, if I'm, like, say he wanted to take me on a date, or I'm just hanging out with a dude and we go somewhere and, like, somebody has to open my door, I am not going to walk through the door until he opens it.
01:57:07.280
I will stand there and wait and look at him, like, are you going to open the door?
01:57:13.480
But it's like, if you want us to be feminine, stand in your masculinity.
01:57:19.340
You know, you want a woman to be submissive and quiet and agreeable.
01:57:22.840
But then you also want her to pay half the check.
01:57:24.860
So we need to come to a common ground where it's like, okay, you know what?
01:57:35.800
And I expect my woman to, you know, follow behind me.
01:57:52.060
You know, women can pay for their own food and they can open their own doors.
01:58:06.080
Am I like, if we're friends and we're going out, hell yeah, we're splitting the bill.
01:58:10.340
If we're going out as a group, I hope to split the bill as well.
01:58:13.080
But if you're courting me to have further relations with me, going back to procreating, potentially
01:58:20.460
procreating with me, like that's just like one step is like paying the bill.
01:58:23.760
Maybe not every single time, but the first like three to five times at least.
01:58:31.720
So, I mean, the thing is that I would say if on a balance of probabilities, if you look
01:58:39.520
at most women, most women themselves are not moving in a traditional way.
01:58:48.740
This is what I was saying the last time I was on.
01:58:50.900
You know, you're saying, well, most women are sleeping with other men.
01:58:58.340
Why are you on dating apps if you're so against dating apps?
01:59:10.680
They have no intention of actually going on dates.
01:59:16.560
I'm like the sole guy, the one guy out of the millions of men on dating apps who's doing
01:59:39.840
So, just using context clues, not assuming anything.
01:59:57.480
So, you preach that women should be innocent, should have a low body count, et cetera.
02:00:07.880
But then why are you, but you're the one benefiting from women's promiscuity.
02:00:13.840
Well, he already said he doesn't use apps to hook up.
02:00:15.580
But I'm just saying, if you're going out with all these girls, you're the one benefiting
02:00:18.820
from women's promiscuity, the very thing you're preaching against.
02:00:21.280
So, that's where I kind of get a little confused.
02:00:22.960
Well, I'm not in favor of promiscuity for men or women.
02:00:26.980
I do acknowledge, though, that there is a bit of a difference when it comes to body count.
02:00:30.800
But I don't consider myself particularly promiscuous.
02:00:33.640
Like, if I don't drink, I don't go to bars, I don't go to clubs, I don't go to parties.
02:00:39.260
If a girl's visiting Santa Barbara, if she's a tourist, and she wants to hook up, I'll actually
02:00:46.540
If I want to have sex with a girl, I want there to be a continuity.
02:00:52.640
I'm not trying to fuck, like, three new chicks a week.
02:00:56.880
If I wanted and decided that I want to sleep with a girl, I want there to be a continuity.
02:01:09.640
I've hooked up with girls, and they just want something casual, and I didn't know, and then
02:01:16.560
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems you date for marriage.
02:01:43.100
Yeah, but, I mean, no, just to answer your original question, I would not consider myself
02:01:54.700
I don't have time for it, because, honestly, any guy who's on his purpose, who's working
02:01:58.220
hard, frankly, just from a pure time perspective, will not have time to be fucking multiple chicks.
02:02:04.140
Like, if you're actually hustling, you do not have time to fuck multiple chicks.
02:02:11.200
Where I have a problem is where men are out here saying, women need to be innocent, but
02:02:14.740
they're the ones benefiting off the promiscuity.
02:02:17.840
Well, men and women want different things, but.
02:02:19.720
But, so, we live in a world now where a lot of the women have sex, like, easier and more
02:02:30.600
So, if that happens, you can't, if there's a dude and he's only had sex with four girls
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and he meets a girl that's had sex with 20 dudes, he's going to be at a disadvantage in
02:02:55.360
Yeah, like, yeah, the lack, you can't, you can't be less experienced than your partner.
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Would you use the word insecure in this instance?
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I don't think it's insecure to not want to date the town bicycle.
02:03:09.300
No, no, I do too, but I was just trying to make a point, which I think that you are
02:03:16.200
No, no, no, this was just the last podcast, I used the word insecure and I got freaking
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jumped on by Brian, and, you know, that's what you're alluding to, and I did not mean
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I just think that if, you know, you're a man with a woman who's been with a lot of people,
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insecurity is just a human emotion that everyone feels, it's a fact, you know, you might
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feel insecure, and that's, you know, not a bad thing.
02:03:40.980
So I was wondering, would you use the word insecure in that instance, if you were a man
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I'm insecure about there being, hold on, I'm insecure about there being a risk of higher
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divorce because she's had 10, 20, 30, 40 partners before me.
02:04:06.740
I'm insecure about her potentially having a greater likelihood of relationship dissatisfaction
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I'm insecure because she's probably fried her brain and she's no longer able to pair bond
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Innocence in woman is a virtue and I totally agree with you.
02:04:40.500
Okay, so we're going to pretend like we are on a dating app or you've just slid into my
02:05:03.100
I'm not really sure, but I do generally date women.
02:05:04.900
When you say you only game women, you don't pursue men, but you do pursue women, but you
02:05:10.260
Or I'm generally more attracted to women, so those are generally the people that I want
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Pull up the chat on it if you know how to do that.
02:06:03.960
No, that's the right one, but it's not refreshing.
02:06:38.340
Okay, realistically, if a girl's doing this, she has a couple friends she's testing it with,
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What, to you, is good game from a guy's perspective?
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Like, what, to you, is game from a men's perspective?
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Because, like, we're going to go on the women's side, because typically we don't have to spend
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I said, what, to you, is good game on a guy's perspective?
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While we wait, because we're going to have her do the woman's side.
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Well, I would say that one of the, being outcome independent.
02:08:16.180
I've actually never slid into someone's DMs before.
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Okay, I guess we're starting with high with two I's.
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Usually it would be easier for this as an actual person,
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I guess you're playing the dude, and I'm playing the chick.
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Is it fair to say that this is, like, this weird alternate reality
02:09:17.320
I've literally never said yes to a date through, like, Instagram DM.
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See, all I can think about right now is the bots that request me on my Instagram DMs
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asking me to paint me, like, as a mural or, like, being my sugar baby.
02:09:37.000
If this was a conversation in person, you've basically been standing here looking at me
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Imagine you're approaching me in person, so I need, like, quick, quick, quick.
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I would just send a gif at this point, if you don't know what to say.
02:11:03.120
Are there any women here who would actually be very interested in receiving a dick pic from a random person?
02:11:27.500
Guys will be like, oh, I want a girl to send me this or hit me up.
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And then it's like, but that's not the girl you want to date you.
02:11:34.980
I was going to say, with the sliding into the DMs, is she trying to fuck, or is she trying
02:11:47.180
Every girl I've ever dated, I've had sex with on the first date.
02:11:51.020
Well, maybe that's why you haven't wiped any of them up yet.
02:12:08.740
I might just have to delete my entire account at this point.
02:12:23.780
Why don't you guys, like, imitate a phone call?
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If a guy said this to you off a rip, how do you answer?
02:12:52.380
Because if he would say, I would love to take you out to dinner, then I'd be like, I'm interested.
02:12:57.620
But then if he would just, you know, send me a dick pic, then he's getting blocked.
02:13:10.900
You're going to look at his profile and you're going to make a snap judgment.
02:13:13.580
And if you feel like you're attracted to them, then you're going to respond.
02:13:16.680
If you're not attracted to them, you're not going to respond because you can't get a good impression.
02:13:22.880
And you can't get a good impression of a real whole person off of, like, one message.
02:13:27.440
But, like, you're more inclined to respond if you're attracted.
02:13:30.300
Okay, so this brings me, let me do one super chat, and this will bring me to my next point.
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Thank you for the hundred, I believe, British pounds.
02:13:45.800
White women rarely stand up for women of color.
02:13:48.400
First wave feminism was only formed because white women don't want black men to get voting rights before them.
02:13:53.620
Are these women more oppressed than, say, Native American men or black men?
02:14:28.780
So, the question is, I'm going to wait for Sandy here to come back.
02:14:38.020
By the way, oh, just a reminder for anyone who's kind of tuning in.
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And we bumped up the TTS trigger and the Reed trigger.
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I'll pay for your McDonald's on the day to take you off to make up for it.
02:15:27.160
Reese, are you still trying to game me up or what's up?
02:15:30.440
There's this influx of Instagram DMs coming towards me now, asking to work on my game and
02:15:39.400
Yeah, people want me to practice my game with them, which I honestly could do.
02:15:42.120
But to be fair, game in person is a lot different than texting game.
02:16:08.140
By the way, remind me that we need to talk about the pimp stuff.
02:16:49.680
I was just wondering, if it was okay if I talked to you?
02:16:51.800
I saw you from across the room, and I just couldn't stop looking at you.
02:17:47.640
That seems like it'd be the end of the conversation, then.
02:17:57.780
I think you did very well, and I think that they portrayed women a little unfairly.
02:18:02.000
To be fair, I'm not used to what they do in this situation.
02:18:04.460
I'm not going to give a little bit more than that.
02:18:11.280
It takes a lot of courage to walk up to a woman and just start a conversation.
02:18:15.880
And, like, I mean, like you said, the way you go about it is just, like, talking to them
02:18:20.000
with no, like, outcome in mind and just talking to them like a person and, like, see what happens.
02:18:33.680
Rejection therapy is something that everyone should do.
02:18:41.120
You go and ask a stranger for a hundred dollars.
02:18:46.220
But just to be clear, like, women will blank dudes like that.
02:18:56.420
If a woman's giving a blank-word answer, they probably don't want to be talking to you.
02:18:59.740
So this would be a lot easier if you were giving me something to work with here.
02:19:29.320
Yeah, I feel like we're done with the role-playing.
02:19:34.420
Okay, so kind of related to that, do women agree or disagree with the following statement?
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That we don't, like, have to do as much to get, like, a date?
02:19:53.320
Before dating or during dating or after dating?
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I mean, it's kind of just general question, I would say.
02:20:14.320
You get, like, there are downsides to being a woman, for sure, and being in that atmosphere,
02:20:19.860
but, like, you should be, in my opinion, you should be a little bit courted, and you get approached.
02:20:27.660
Men have to really work, and, like, they have to be, like, reach a certain status themselves, and, like, have a certain, like...
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You know, most women will, like, reject them if, like, they don't have a good job, or, like, they don't look a certain way, or, like, they're not tall enough, and whatever.
02:20:42.860
Women, you just have to be a woman, and, like, somebody is going to find you attractive, and you're the one getting approached 99% of the time.
02:20:52.360
And if you were to go and approach a man, you're most likely going to get some type of interest.
02:21:29.800
Like, if I see, like, a gym pick, I'm probably going to be like, no.
02:21:39.240
Obviously, it doesn't look like I work out right now, because I haven't.
02:21:52.360
Um, I asked you to skip me so I could look up something really, really cool.
02:22:44.260
If you just had to fire off, like, a couple physical traits, personality traits, what's
02:22:50.380
Well, my type is someone that has their stuff together.
02:23:13.860
We're not going to talk expenses, but I feel that you're compensated properly for what
02:23:22.800
So, does that mean you're okay with settling for less money?
02:23:26.060
I think that nurses are entirely underpaid, so I'm just trying to feel out.
02:23:39.200
I love my career, so I didn't make a bad choice.
02:23:41.380
Did you make a bunch of money in Dogecoin, too?
02:23:44.080
I lost money in Dogecoin, so I'm not good with the crypto.
02:23:49.560
And then I had Voyager, which belly-upped, so...
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Did you think I was looking up someone on backpages, or I was on my backpages?
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Because I like to be like wined and dined, like treated like a princess.
02:24:26.020
I don't drink, actually, but I like being treated like a princess.
02:24:30.480
I want to make my own money, but I want you to be able to take me out.
02:25:05.780
I would like a little bit more, because I'm not the type of person that likes to stay stagnant.
02:25:16.400
But I'm constantly trying to, like, evolve and do different things.
02:25:25.820
I have to make enough money to spoil myself and my dog.
02:26:01.380
But I like being able to do different things, you know?
02:26:17.080
I mean, I don't mind spending money on people, but I will friend zone them.
02:26:30.260
But have you ever paid for a guy on a date with the interest of continuing the relationship?
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Like, if they were to ask me on a date, and would I pay for it?
02:26:39.560
Whatever the scenario is, have you ever paid for a guy on a date, first date, and wanted to continue seeing him?
02:26:45.240
No, but, like, if I were to have a boyfriend, I would spoil them.
02:26:54.520
I don't think that I've ever gone on a date where I've had to go Dutch.
02:26:59.100
I'll pay for myself if I already am not interested in you.
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So it's like, I don't feel bad that I'm not interested.
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Yeah, I was just going to go try and look for her.
02:27:43.760
I think that I want to make enough money to where I can spoil the man that I'm with.
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And I think that I want to be with a man that spoils me and more.
02:28:01.860
So either way, I do want to be contributing to our household.
02:28:06.260
But yeah, I want a man that makes more money than me.
02:28:09.680
Somebody said in the comments, her money is her money and his money is our money.
02:28:14.540
And honestly, I don't mean it in a money-sucking way.
02:28:25.160
We were mentioning about, like, multiple wives, Islam culture.
02:28:36.640
The way that I was looking at it, when I say, like, the man says, like, this is our money.
02:28:42.180
You know, unless he's, like, unfathomably wealthy, then he probably can't be providing
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Like, gosh, our generation's never going to be able to buy a house.
02:29:29.340
To go back to, like, when you asked me if I supported the LGBTQ, that's something
02:29:35.840
I have struggled with myself is my sexuality, and that's something that I have... I had
02:29:41.260
to, like, really dig deep on, like, my childhood trauma and everything like that, and that's
02:29:46.000
still something that I struggle with today, is, like, getting out of my masculine form
02:29:53.440
is, like, when I feel like I want a woman, and that's something that I deal with today, still.
02:30:06.020
No, that's fine, but when you see women together or men together, are you, like...
02:30:10.140
No, I don't, like, make it a problem or anything.
02:30:12.220
I respect everybody, what they want to do, like...
02:30:16.240
Mainly for lesbians and gays, but, like, the whole transgender thing and everything like
02:30:21.180
that, like, that's where it gets a little crazy overboard for me.
02:30:50.240
And from what age to what age were you doing that?
02:30:58.760
Oh, okay, so still sort of doing it a little bit.
02:31:05.980
Not necessarily, not sexual all the time, but definitely using them for their money.
02:31:23.800
Like, in the stripper sense, you do have to have that mentality because, like, you're paying
02:31:29.640
to be at this club and you're paying to work there to make this money, so you do have to
02:31:46.160
Do you have, like, the most craziest sex worker pimp situation that ever happened?
02:31:58.800
What's the most money you ever spent on a girl?
02:32:15.980
I've spent, like, at least, like, $1,500 on a guy before.
02:32:35.960
Like, you better be doing the max contribution.
02:32:38.560
Because you're saving a lot of money, my friend.
02:32:41.640
Throughout the years, and listen, I want my super chatters...
02:32:45.120
I want my super chatters to be confident in me, knowing that their contribution...
02:32:50.480
Their patronage to my channel is not somehow benefiting...
02:33:06.680
You know, maybe I think I've treated a girlfriend to a bocce.
02:33:20.860
I don't think everything should be based upon money.
02:33:22.780
Like, I know what I do for a living, but that's something that I chose to do because
02:33:32.060
I had a not so good childhood, and this is just what I decided to do.
02:33:38.660
Of all the dates I've been on, I'd say the vast majority of them split the check.
02:33:44.480
I've split the check on the vast majority of dates.
02:34:00.200
Well, I want to say first dates, I mean, it varies at what point, because sometimes
02:34:11.780
But first dates, honestly, I'd say one-fourth of first dates will go further.
02:34:26.280
That ratio can happen if you're even paying the bill in full.
02:34:28.980
Even if you're paying for the date, which is exactly why I don't pay, because the likelihood
02:34:33.560
of any given date going anywhere anyways is so greatly diminished for a variety of reasons,
02:34:45.420
Whereas back in the day, if you went on a date, like, back in the day, maybe you went
02:34:54.640
Motherfuckers be out here going on six, seven dates a week and shit.
02:35:18.600
I consider myself more introverted, so I like introverted girls.
02:35:23.520
That's an interesting career path to have for an introvert.
02:35:31.100
What's the largest amount of money you've spent on just yourself?
02:35:34.520
So is it about spoiling other people, or do you not spoil yourself?
02:35:40.920
Honestly, I don't really go on vacation as much.
02:35:42.500
I probably should, because I'm kind of a stress case, but I get, like, I'll get professional
02:35:54.140
But yeah, I don't really, you know, I'm not really into consumerism all that much, so I
02:35:58.800
drive, I've been driving the same car that I've driven since 2012.
02:36:08.800
I wear the same clothes, like, I wear sweatpants from Costco.
02:36:18.080
I wear black, like, $5, $10 t-shirts from Kohl's.
02:36:23.220
Yeah, if you're just a frugal guy, in general, I think that's okay, instead of, like, yeah,
02:36:27.840
I'm a ball out, but not on these bitches, like, that's stupid, like, come on.
02:36:32.480
But if you're just frugal in general, and that's who you are, I think that's perfectly acceptable.
02:36:36.780
Don't be with somebody that's, like, very materialistic.
02:36:38.960
I've been looking, though, for a girl who, I'm down to, like, for example, if I want
02:36:45.180
to go to Hawaii, I'm trying to go to Hawaii in, like, three weeks.
02:36:50.100
But in that scenario, like, if it was my girlfriend, right, and let's say she's a bit younger than
02:36:56.780
me, you know, I'm obviously going to be out, well, I'm going to be out earning her under
02:37:03.580
those circumstances, like, I just, and I want to go to Hawaii, I want her to come with me,
02:37:11.260
Well, I've not, I haven't taken a girl on vacation before.
02:37:14.580
Is it fair to say, though, that you wouldn't like a girl that would expect you to pay for
02:37:18.620
the trip, no matter what, just because of, like, you're the man?
02:37:21.840
Or do you feel like it is more masculine in your role to take care of your woman?
02:37:27.700
If she's traditional, then I would accept those expectations.
02:37:31.140
But if she's promiscuous and has a high body count and is not particularly feminine,
02:37:36.960
and has, like, no, we're not going to, we're not going to pick and choose when you get
02:37:44.740
If you are more traditional woman, or at the very least, as so long as you're feminine and
02:37:51.040
you bring me peace, under those circumstances, I'm much more willing to provide, fall into
02:37:59.340
But I find it very difficult for me to fall into the provider role, because I, frankly,
02:38:05.140
most of the women I encounter, I don't really, they don't strike me as traditional women.
02:38:11.700
Where are you meeting your, this is what I want to ask.
02:38:14.880
If one day, I know you don't want to get married, but you do want, or would be open to having
02:38:19.160
a life partner, like, why are you in Santa Barbara?
02:38:22.640
I feel like there's no culture in California, and I feel like there's definitely not a healthy
02:38:28.020
dating culture or anything that promotes marriage, like.
02:38:33.340
Well, I mean, you're a grown man, like, why are you still here?
02:38:37.240
Well, I mean, first, I grew up in Santa Barbara.
02:38:43.600
I don't know if I'm going to be, like, a passport bro, but, like, it's tempting.
02:38:51.680
But California's failed society, that's for sure.
02:38:57.740
He doesn't have a biological clock, so he can just do his business and make his money.
02:39:01.440
I mean, but as we already established, you know, your goal demographic is young 20s,
02:39:07.660
and as you grow older, you've already said, not today, but you've already said you're in
02:39:13.060
a position where you could take care of someone.
02:39:15.460
Yeah, I could have a stay-at-home wife if I was so inclined.
02:39:21.740
I mean, you're at the age where, like, you're not going to grow in looks, so, you know, you
02:39:25.940
don't have a biological clock when it comes to kids.
02:39:27.740
Yeah, I peaked at, like, 23 in that department.
02:39:32.660
I don't know if we want to pull up my Instagram, but.
02:39:41.240
I could be the only one, though, but, no, I really, I really honestly don't.
02:39:44.660
I do Twitch streaming, auntie underscore blazer.
02:39:49.360
By the way, can you swap with, can you take that chair?
02:39:52.760
Yeah, just take that chair, because I don't know if she's coming back.
02:40:07.120
For whatever reason, I thought you grew up here.
02:40:09.320
All my, everything I have is here in California.
02:40:15.960
Well, I think school is a scam, so that wasn't supposed to be, like, a dismissive question.
02:40:24.380
I don't want to, I'm not going to disclose exactly where.
02:40:26.540
I did go to Santa Barbara City College, then elsewhere, but I don't want to disclose on that.
02:40:35.380
I switched chairs, because mine was so squeaky.
02:40:46.480
I just wanted her in a different chair, because that other one was fucking squeaky.
02:40:51.120
Yeah, can you just put that microphone on the ground?
02:41:01.660
I didn't see it, but I'll actually read a couple comments now.
02:41:05.940
Yeah, I mean, I definitely think it's hard in California.
02:41:14.320
Yeah, I think California's not great, because it's, I'm not, like, super hardcore conservative
02:41:24.500
either, but, like, yeah, I mean, there is a hookup culture.
02:41:32.780
I don't even know where I lean politically, honestly.
02:41:34.820
Sometimes I say I'm kind of, like, center left.
02:41:39.340
In any case, yeah, there's, like, we're two hours north of L.A.
02:41:49.520
I mean, I think everything in L.A. is literally, like, the devil and Hollywood and all that stuff.
02:41:54.500
It's just, like, horrible, and I think it's seeped into our culture.
02:42:01.040
When men are concerned with your body count, it's not due to insecurity.
02:42:04.000
Men are more concerned that your oxytocin receptors have become so desensitized that you can't effectively pair bond
02:42:11.300
and that you're so focused with emotional validation that you'd give your body to anybody.
02:42:16.580
Yo, Frankie K, thank you for that $100 soup chat, man.
02:42:19.220
We will talk, excuse me, we will talk about body count here in a moment,
02:42:24.240
and then we had one that came through here that I'll get.
02:42:27.620
But, Brian, your wife is sitting to your left in red, stop being an idiot and put her on lockdown.
02:42:41.980
I love a man who's about his hustle, but Brian won't open my door.
02:42:57.940
But maybe that would bring out the more, you know, traditional side of him.
02:43:04.160
If you want to go off those, like, little data points, men that are married.
02:43:07.120
Just perfect, checked every box, like, 21 years old, virgin, would you marry her?
02:43:20.320
Brian, are you scared that she's going to take all your money?
02:43:39.920
If you cheat on her, they could get thrown out, right?
02:43:48.120
Marriage is security and you need to secure that.
02:43:49.600
I would never sign a prenup because I don't believe in divorce.
02:43:57.200
Well, like, probably not going into marriage with more money and that's why I would never
02:44:01.280
That's why it's important to me to have passive income at a young age and make smart decisions
02:44:09.240
And a prenup protects the woman as well, not just the man's money or your, like, if you
02:44:13.780
In California, divorce courts side with women an insane amount.
02:44:18.100
Like, literally, if you're a woman, you get divorced in California, you're going to be
02:44:28.720
And before my case was called, there was, it was a divorce case that involved children.
02:44:37.020
And it was the most brutally depressing thing I listened to.
02:44:40.740
So, sitting there at the Santa Barbara courthouse for 30 minutes, listening to these two argue
02:44:47.460
about finances and the custody of the children.
02:44:51.420
And I'm like, these people probably didn't imagine being in this situation when they got
02:44:59.840
I'm on Do Not Disturb, but it's my watch is going off.
02:45:08.100
He's a bankruptcy attorney, so it's somehow even more depressing.
02:45:12.520
No, no, not more depressing, but my parents had an awful, awful divorce.
02:45:22.520
And my dad is remarried to someone who also did not necessarily have a cordial divorce.
02:45:27.780
And so, I've seen the ins and outs of divorce court, and it's awful.
02:45:46.120
I'm kind of, you know, I'm not necessarily religious.
02:45:48.380
I do consider myself spiritual, but I don't think the Jews would claim me back.
02:45:52.340
Because you said, well, you said that you don't believe in divorce.
02:45:56.100
And that's, I've heard that among, for Catholics, that that's like no good.
02:46:05.220
So, you would stay with somebody who's dissatisfying you or making you really depressed or they
02:46:09.980
change as a person and blah, blah, blah, and making your children work?
02:46:13.380
Once you become a mother, I think your children's needs prioritize over your own needs.
02:46:18.760
But does that mean that they'll see a rotting marriage in front of them?
02:46:30.140
I, like, believe in manifesting and I am manifesting nothing but a perfect marriage because I want
02:46:38.360
to demonstrate to my children what love looks like.
02:46:41.180
I want them to see a healthy marriage and that's why I'm very picky with who I go out
02:46:45.280
I'm very picky with who I would decide to date and I'd be very picky with who I would
02:46:54.420
Didn't you say you were in a situationship or dating around a bit?
02:46:58.080
Oh, yeah, like, I'll go on dates here and there but because, you know, if someone says,
02:47:01.720
hey, Lindsay, I think you're really cute, let me take you on a date.
02:47:03.900
I'm, and if he's, yeah, if he says it like that, I'm, sure, I'll go on a date with you
02:47:08.660
and it took two dates for me to just say, hey, I don't think this is, like, I don't see
02:47:18.680
Yeah, I was just going to say, I know you're going to say you're going to be selective with
02:47:21.320
your husband but, like, I tend to agree with you that relationships can get worked out
02:47:25.600
but, like, my, I was a child of divorce as well and, like, bottom, like, bottom line
02:47:31.980
is my dad was very emotionally abusive and it was, I was very relieved when they got divorced
02:47:36.600
because I wasn't in a good home environment part of the time and it caused a lot of, like,
02:47:41.380
emotional strife and issues, like, with me and my family.
02:47:44.540
So it's, like, I would say there's, like, exceptions and, like, that blanket statement.
02:47:48.660
Like, you can think you're picking the right person and then that person can change on
02:47:53.140
I think that my original statement was silly and I, I choose to revoke that.
02:48:00.960
They had a horrible, not loving marriage and it benefited my older brother, my older sister
02:48:08.700
Um, and so, but I, that is, that is, you know, I'm not going into marriage.
02:48:16.460
I am not going into marriage thinking, well, I can divorce him if it doesn't work out.
02:48:22.680
Uh, Stifler asked the ladies to rate their looks on a scale of one to 10.
02:48:34.620
I feel like I'm getting, you know, purely wake up and I'm like, what the F, you know,
02:48:39.960
I'm like, how can I be this closer and closer and closer, closer.
02:48:45.580
I think that I'm okay, but I have to give thanks to makeup and also my plastic surgeon,
02:49:08.020
I just got boobs when I graduated nursing school.
02:49:26.620
The thing is like, you have financing options as well, but then, um, yeah.
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That's why I'm saying like, it really depends on the day.
02:49:49.840
I'm honestly getting sugar mama vibes from you.
02:50:06.080
I can see you with like a, like a 23 year old stud.
02:50:25.640
But like, I see you with like an older, sophisticated, like.
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A lover for me is someone that I deeply care for.
02:51:37.500
When's the last time you hooked up with somebody?
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And I seriously fall asleep once I start looking.
02:52:07.760
However, I have fallen asleep on there and people are like, wow, you disappeared again.
02:52:14.620
It's like, so they wonder if I'm doing it for my social media.
02:52:22.600
Like if she takes you out on a date, what do you think?
02:52:36.700
I, you know, the thing is, surprisingly, I'm an introvert and I'm extroverted during like,
02:52:46.220
no, like seriously, I prefer like, yeah, I know.
02:53:02.700
I have a stiff, oh, right there looks, okay, what do you rate yourself?
02:53:21.860
We're in Santa Barbara, so I'm probably like a Santa Barbara eight, maybe an LA seven for
02:53:33.380
That's me, but in perception of other people to me, I'm probably like, not everyone's type,
02:53:39.320
and I'm probably like a solid seven and a half, eight.
02:53:49.880
No, the women in Santa Barbara are way more attractive.
02:53:57.080
Put those women in Santa Barbara that are attractive.
02:54:00.460
Okay, sure, sure, sure, sure, but let's say we take it to Idaho or like Tennessee.
02:54:07.740
I feel like I would be married by now in Idaho.
02:54:24.020
We're from a very, a little country town down south of where?
02:54:34.780
Yeah, we, we're from a little town east of San Diego.
02:54:41.580
If you don't have, if you, if you don't have horses, you're, you're the odd one out.
02:55:14.740
Purely look, like purely looks, like no, like, probably like, especially in LA, like
02:55:21.600
a six and a half to like seven and a half, depending on your type.
02:55:27.580
I mean, like, if I'm your type, to me, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
02:55:31.600
I can't really change how I look that much, so I'd rather work on other parts of myself.
02:55:36.140
And like, I can improve only so much, but my face is my face.
02:55:45.600
It really like depends on the day, but maybe an 8.
02:56:33.500
I feel like we didn't give ratings indicative of needing to be humbled more.
02:56:39.860
I mean, you can see me without eyebrows, but these lashes are permanent.
02:56:56.980
I just focus on my face makeup because it's just my acne that I...
02:57:08.820
Seriously, I wake up and I'm like, what the fuck?
02:57:25.380
Everybody has different opinions and everybody's a different flavor.
02:57:29.880
So, it's like someone's going to find me and be like, oh, my God, she's an 11 out of 10.
02:57:35.280
And then some people are going to be like, she's a fucking three.
02:57:37.880
She's, like, huge and tall and all that kind of shit.
02:57:40.520
But, like, me personally, I have learned to not put too much stock...
02:57:45.340
Like, when I conceive of myself, I'm not my own type.
02:57:52.280
Like, if I could change, like, the way I look, I wouldn't pick this in particular.
02:58:01.420
It's literally just visual aesthetic preference, like, likes and dislikes.
02:58:08.640
Respectfully, I've made money off my looks myself.
02:58:16.620
We have one more question for you before you leave.
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Men tend to have pretty low standards when the only thing they're looking for is sex.
02:59:19.780
There was just something said here and there that she was pretty uncomfortable with.
02:59:46.440
I mean, you know this is a pretty controversial podcast.
02:59:54.460
Well, I think compared to other podcasts, I'm pretty tame.
02:59:56.900
But I think compared, like, of what you hear, for example, like, amongst your college peers,
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especially living in Santa Barbara, UCSB, fairly, you know, fairly liberal.
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Yeah, I suppose some of these things could be shocking to hear.
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And this is not to come at anybody in particular, but to me, she seemed like she was part of the LGBTQ, and this is an assumption.
03:00:24.820
Yeah, so she might not be on track with some of the things that you said about trans and not supporting that, because that is a really controversial issue, and, like, I'm in support of anybody living their life however the fuck they want.
03:00:37.320
But that might have maybe made her feel some type of way, and she just chose to remove herself.
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That's the only thing I can think of, because, like, if you've watched this podcast or listened to any man in the last 10 years, like, you knew what to expect.
03:00:48.540
Like, that is the only thing, and that's not to, like, slight you.
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I just think that if we could, like, sit here and have a cordial conversation, I think we're all, like, totally cool trying to find common ground on things.
03:01:01.180
You know, maybe we could get somewhere with something.
03:01:03.420
And, you know, it's good that she just removed herself from a situation she feels uncomfortable with, but I feel like constantly we have people in these subset communities that just walk away because they don't have anything to say.
03:01:14.320
Well, I suppose the polite thing, at least, I mean, if she was that uncomfortable with the conversation,
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She's free to obviously leave, but she could have at least said, hey, I'm going to...
03:01:25.440
Maybe she didn't want to interrupt, and maybe, like, right now, since this is, like, a dating show, we already got into so many, like, kind of political issues.
03:01:32.820
It's not really the time or place to debate something that kind of heavy and deep, you know, that is...
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No, that's fine, but she wanted to just probably remove herself.
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And first of all, someone wants to be cute over there, and I do...
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We could actually do a little scoot, I think, would be best.
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Just make sure the mics don't get knocked over.
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I mean, we're only going to go probably for another 20, 30 minutes.
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Besides the, like, brief comment you made, we didn't even...
03:03:13.100
Like, we didn't even really engage in that, so I don't know what the deal was.
03:03:16.360
Like I said, that's just my observation of what possibly, out of all the topics that
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were broached in any particular manner, but, like, I could see someone that felt very passionately
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about that, that was a part of the community, maybe didn't even want to engage it because
03:03:33.800
They didn't have the energy or they knew where it was going to go because it is...
03:03:38.920
Like, I could sit here and advocate and I would at, like, any time, but do...
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I don't know because this is, like, ultimately...
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Are you not allowed to talk about trans people?
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She took a stance and she probably didn't like the stance.
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And then I narrowed it down, like, after she left.
03:04:01.400
Like, I narrowed it down, like, an hour and a half later.
03:04:17.060
You know, we could have been going to Hawaii together, but alas.
03:04:21.880
Okay, so, let's talk about body count really quick.
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Here, let me start over here, and then we'll come to that.
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I think it's more about how you go about your relationships, regardless of the number,
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and how, like, you treat each partner, and how you enter and exit those engagements.
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And that should be more reflective of, like, you than just a number.
03:05:17.340
You know, it's just one of those things where it's like, that was your life, this was my life,
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that's not who I am, or that's not who you are, and stuff.
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What's the point of you telling me you screwed an X amount?
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It's like, am I supposed to be impressed or grossed out?
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Like, you know, it's not something that I would like talking about.
03:05:57.300
But you can't get a disease from talking about body count.
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But I'm not going to judge someone on body count and stuff, either.
03:06:07.380
So, I think that what you're saying is that it does matter to you, because if it was high,
03:06:11.180
It's like, if you need to go to the bathroom for whatever reason, I do not need to know what
03:06:27.220
Would it upset you if a guy who, either on a first, second date, if a guy asked you
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I think that that would be kind of like an immature, that would be like me, hard pass
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I want to get everyone's answer on this, though.
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Because if it really, like that guy's comment, he was like, it was so in-depth and stuff.
03:06:56.060
But I don't know if all men are thinking that deep into it, or they're just like, oh, she
03:07:03.060
And if you are someone to make snap judgments on people, if they asked me and wanted to know
03:07:08.160
my whole sexual history, I'd have no problem being open.
03:07:10.660
But if they just wanted to, like, call me a slut, if it was over a certain number, then
03:07:15.580
No, but they might want to use it as a criteria for disqualifying you from pursuing you further.
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If that's what they want in a partner, that's what they want.
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And if that's part of their criteria, maybe that's not somebody I want to be with.
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Would you take an issue if a guy was asked you on a first or second date or something
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Yeah, I think that's a, it's not disrespectful as much as it is, like, immature and novice.
03:08:01.300
Yeah, it's more of a question that you ask once you are willing to consider, like, settling
03:08:12.420
Well, if I didn't want to waste time, I'll ask for your bank statements.
03:08:16.360
It's like, all right, let's see the bank statement.
03:08:21.200
It's just, there's certain things that are, it's just, it's tacky.
03:08:25.620
Well, the difference there, I would say, is there's no way to, I mean, you can look
03:08:32.240
You can sort of look at their appearance and make, to some degree, a judgment over potential
03:08:38.020
promiscuity or body count, but if a guy tells you that he's a mechanical engineer in this
03:08:47.740
city, you can just go on to, what's the website where you can look at people's profile?
03:08:53.760
Yeah, well, there's websites where you can just, like, see how much they earn?
03:08:59.320
Like, no, no, no, not see how much specifically they earn, but you say, here's their A.
03:09:05.100
Like Glassdoor, you can see, okay, a software engineer in San Francisco is making, likely
03:09:12.160
So, I mean, if someone tells you they're a certain career, you're going to have a sense
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It's not foolproof, but, whereas with body count, it's kind of up in the air.
03:09:23.860
Yeah, but I've, like, I've misread guys before, and then, like, once we get into the body count
03:09:28.500
conversation, like, their body count is significantly, like, just lower than I thought it would be.
03:09:33.160
I'd be like, oh, you're, like, a 30, 40, you're an entertainer, you do this, you do that,
03:09:36.820
and they're like, nope, been with a handful of chicks in my whole life.
03:09:39.600
And it's really, like, but then it starts clicking as I see, like, how do they treat
03:09:46.580
Well, I feel like as dudes, I mean, you have to go through, I mean, me personally, like,
03:09:51.180
I went through, you know, a stage where I was knocking them down or whatever, but as
03:09:54.340
you get older, like, you realize, well, like, now I only have sex with women that I would
03:10:01.080
date, so if I wouldn't even date you, I won't even have sex with you because it's a waste
03:10:04.240
of time, I'm busy, I don't have time to do all that.
03:10:05.900
It's interesting, some people don't have to go through the hoe face to see that, too.
03:10:08.660
Well, yeah, true, true, true, but a lot of guys can't even have a hoe face.
03:10:14.340
Like, any girl can have a hoe face, but a guy, every guy can't have a hoe face.
03:10:22.560
I just think that there's different levels of, like, emotional intelligence.
03:10:26.820
Like, for me, yeah, I'm older, and I shouldn't have been here because I'm older, because,
03:10:33.880
However, it's like, if someone were to start a conversation with me like that, I would be
03:10:39.180
like, you know, my brain cells does not really have the capacity for this conversation.
03:10:51.920
So, if a guy on a first or second date asks you, what's your body count?
03:10:58.220
I obviously, I have always, I'm always up front with everybody that I'm talking about,
03:11:07.300
If somebody asks me my body count, like, that's something I can't even give because I don't
03:11:11.680
personally know, but I don't think it's a respectful thing.
03:11:22.500
People being on their phones while we're in the middle of a conversation.
03:11:30.360
Yeah, you're literally on your phone right now, literally.
03:11:37.580
I think that body count does matter, and it's indicative of a lot of things.
03:11:41.860
I think that there's, when bringing up that conversation, I think if first date, you know,
03:11:48.120
a guy just comes off super blunt with it, I'm going to be like, okay, that was distasteful.
03:11:51.720
But I think that if, you know, if I'm going on a second or, let's say, third date with
03:11:55.880
somebody, I have significant interest in them because I'm not wasting my time going on a
03:12:00.700
third date with some guy I don't see a future with in any sense, and hopefully that's the
03:12:06.100
So, if on the third date he asks that question in a respectful sense, then I think that that
03:12:10.960
is definitely something that should be disclosed.
03:12:15.780
He's not being a dickhead about it, but he's just like, hey, listen.
03:12:24.700
The framing is, hey, listen, I'm not interested in something casual.
03:12:43.580
Let me come back to that, but I'll tell you why body count's important.
03:12:46.660
But if he framed it in that way, would that still be disrespectful or rude?
03:12:51.840
No, I, like, honestly, I think the elegant thing to do would say, okay, well, what's the
03:13:01.220
And if he said five, you know, depending on who I am.
03:13:06.480
No, depending on who I am and what my actual count is, I would say, thank you so much for
03:13:19.800
I mean, that's, yeah, I suppose that's one way to do it.
03:13:23.680
Wait, but I think that if a man sleeps with a woman and then asks for a body count and
03:13:28.980
acts like it matters to him, he's out the window.
03:13:36.360
So let's say a man sleeps with a woman and he has this, you know, idea in his head, or
03:13:41.960
But if he has this, if he's, you know, has the motive to be in a, expectation of being
03:13:48.520
in a long-term or looking for a long-term thing and he sleeps with a woman and then
03:13:53.440
asks what her body count is because it matters to him, shame on him because he didn't, you
03:13:59.200
know, then she probably would not have done what she did if she knew his opinion on it.
03:14:05.260
I mean, not necessarily, but if that's the biggest pre-qualifier, I think that's like,
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like I said, the most novice and immature pre-qualifier ever.
03:14:17.780
It's immature to care about a woman's promiscuity.
03:14:20.520
Immediately and promiscuity as in like, how long ago is that past and present and future,
03:14:27.560
But like, why aren't you thinking about like, how, how is she in public?
03:14:36.560
Does she even, you know, like those things are so much more important and you can't just
03:14:42.600
So that's why I think like the first date, that does not make sense.
03:14:45.200
Just be with someone that has the same values that you.
03:14:47.360
Some men want to freak that has a ton of experience.
03:14:51.620
If they don't like who you are, don't be with them.
03:14:55.880
Like, honestly, like it's really like not, it's only as deep as you make it.
03:15:00.100
And if you want to put your value as a human being on your body count, that's on you and
03:15:05.500
If people want to do that to you and you take their opinion to heart, that's on you.
03:15:09.020
Yeah, but so many women have a serious issue with this being a preference that men have.
03:15:15.200
A lot of women, I mean, a couple of women at the stable have it.
03:15:21.760
Wait, before I have you go, did you get to give your take on this?
03:15:37.520
I was going to say, did you know that when you have sex with a guy, his DNA is inside
03:15:51.100
Like you, uh, he could, she couldn't even donate a bone marrow because yeah.
03:15:56.020
Like this guy's wife tried to, uh, donate bone marrow, but she couldn't because his DNA
03:16:01.580
was, was part of her, was part of her bone marrow.
03:16:08.660
I think it's the highest connection you can, you can choose to have.
03:16:11.160
And I think that's why you should have a low body count because it's so spiritual.
03:16:14.440
I think sex is so, uh, such a big thing and should be a valued thing.
03:16:19.320
The same reason that sexual assault is so awful, you know, you know, punching someone in the
03:16:25.620
face is not the same as assaulting, sexually assaulting someone because, you know, high-fiving
03:16:51.180
Do you guys think promiscuous women make good moms?
03:16:55.480
Um, are they leaving their kids to go fuck people?
03:17:05.160
Well, I believe if you don't care what goes in your vagina, how can you care what comes
03:17:11.380
That might be the stupidest thing I've ever heard in my life.
03:17:16.080
No, because that's just saying that people stay stagnant their entire life.
03:17:20.120
Like, what if somebody has like a phase in their life where they were mentally going through
03:17:23.940
something and they did behaviors or whatever that, you know, you might judge.
03:17:36.880
And like, we're not talking about like crimes that are harming people.
03:17:43.380
If you're harming somebody else, then like, absolutely.
03:17:45.880
But if it's just out of the standards of like acceptable society.
03:17:54.540
Wait, do those memes come up when somebody like donates?
03:18:19.840
I was in a relationship for like five years and I didn't lose my virginity until I was 18.
03:18:32.840
Also, no judgment on people that have high body counts.
03:19:06.420
I'll just, here, I'll answer for you since you're going to not answer.
03:19:18.040
But I could, but I could say that yours is probably two.
03:19:20.260
Because to him it does, so he's making a statement.
03:19:22.740
Well, I mean, you're saying it's rude for me to just throw out some joke number.
03:19:26.700
So I've asked you a question, I've asked you a question and you're just refusing to answer
03:19:35.260
I just, I know, but I'm just setting up the shirt.
03:19:38.660
I knew this frigging question was going to come up.
03:19:49.460
But I mean, if your body count, for example, you said it's less than 10.
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If, without disclosing my body count, let's say my body count was less than 10.
03:19:59.840
I would know precisely how many people I've slept with because that's a low number.
03:20:06.720
I would remember all the people I had sex with.
03:20:07.860
No, I remember them, but it's like, I do long term.
03:20:11.360
So it's like, I have to kind of, it's still a 10 year history.
03:20:14.860
Once you hit like 20 or 30, that's when I think.
03:20:18.720
I just didn't think about it before this moment in time.
03:20:20.880
Would you tell us your body count after we're done?
03:20:46.180
People, since the, the career path that I decided to take, that I was only seeing certain dudes at, like, it wasn't like different dudes every day, multiple different dudes.
03:20:58.220
It's like one dude, and I would see him for as long as I could until something happened.
03:21:05.880
I would say maybe, if I'm going to say highest, 100.
03:21:34.020
I mean, I don't think there are good pimps out there, but.
03:21:54.480
There's a bunch of, like, every fucking day, there's this fucking channel on YouTube called,
03:21:58.900
I think, chat, is it, there's BSN and, like, Festify, and they release every day the same,
03:22:04.960
like, clickbait shit, which is, like, Andrew Tate, release today.
03:22:09.260
And it's, like, brought these, do you guys know what I'm talking about?
03:22:12.940
BSN and, like, Festify, Testify on YouTube, they release these one-minute update videos,
03:22:27.000
Festify, fucking, they clickbait worse than I do.
03:22:41.120
Well, I mean, I would charge, I wish I could charge a lot.
03:22:55.060
The situation with, I've had, I've had multiple pimps.
03:23:01.560
But, so, like, in the beginning of when me and my pimp, my ex that I was with for three,
03:23:10.140
Um, I gave him, like, all my money and he would give me, like, a little bit back.
03:23:16.580
Like, he would give me, like, maybe, like, $60 for, like, pocket money if I wanted to buy,
03:23:23.660
But, like, as time went on, like, he's the one who really pursued me and wanted to be in a relationship.
03:23:31.880
Um, he, he eventually told me, like, he loved me and he wanted to be with me.
03:23:36.660
So, I kind of just played my role and I was, like, you know, maybe this is it.
03:23:49.580
Um, and something just switched in him one day and, like, he just got extremely abusive.
03:24:01.880
Well, no, no, no, that's the Andrew Tate, but that one, the bad one, is a professional
03:24:10.180
The Andrew Tate is the positively, inspirationally, motivating person.
03:24:16.580
I mean, a lot of pimps nowadays, they call themselves, like, lifestyle coach.
03:24:28.360
Um, so, the most you ever made was 2,000, but, okay.
03:24:38.800
I declined to share because I don't think my future husband would appreciate that as well
03:24:56.520
I firmly believe that this is not something that, you know, the public needs to know.
03:25:07.140
Yeah, I'm sure she is perceived as more intellectual, so that's why you went harder on me.
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Did you know that Marquavius Martin is actually a Mensa member?
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Okay, I'm upset that you grilled me and you didn't grill her.
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You know, like, with the bullfighting, they have, like, the red Toro, Toro shit?
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You know, like, you know, like, how police are more likely to pull over red cars?
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Although she's wearing a red shirt, so I don't know.
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I came off very sarcastic in the beginning, but that's just because that's my humor, but
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Actually, I don't give a fuck what people think on the internet of me.
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I've been having sex for longer than I haven't been having sex.
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I'll have you run the whatever OnlyFans, and you'll just like...
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Okay, if I had to put a number on it, if I had to put a number on it, I would say...
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When you walk into sex parties, do you respect people there?
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Like do you just have a baseline respect for them?
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No, you just go and smack the shit out of everybody.
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Well, there's a difference between treating someone with respect and actually respecting
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Because I treat everyone that I come in contact with with respect.
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Okay, so you treated them all with respect, but did you actually respect any of them?
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That he would be not respecting himself if he didn't respect them.
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Promiscuous women, that doesn't really bother me.
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For me, as long as a chick has burning desire for me, the shit really don't matter.
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Yeah, I don't have issues with chicks that I do.
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Like I love trashy reality TV, just to numb my mind.
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But like they always say like in Britain that they're like, yeah, my body counts like 400, 500.
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Like do you think that's real or like their cap about that?
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Because they really are very proud of those numbers.
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But like how do you actually maintain that or get to those numbers?
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Someone do the math on how many girls you'd have to smash.
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Was there something we were supposed to react to?
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We'll look at it for two minutes and then we'll play video and then we're going to wrap.
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So this came out from Pew Research I think a month ago.
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So let's look at ages 18 to 29 and ages 18 to 29.
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So for men, 63% of men between the ages of 18 to 29 report being single.
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However, for women between the ages of 18 to 29, 34% of them report being single.
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What that either means is that women are dating older men or that's part of it.
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Or I think the bigger thing is, is that women are all dating the top tier of men.
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They've got a boyfriend or they're in a situation ship with a guy.
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But the men at the very top, they have a ton of options.
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Then women below that have a little fewer options than the men.
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Well, it's not that they have fewer, but these men are just running through chicks.
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And then you have men who are average, who are basically getting nothing.
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And this is like pretty catastrophic for society.
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I feel like some of these guys aren't like claiming the girls too.
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The women might think they're in a relationship.
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Just how we were like bantering about being in a situation ship.
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The same way we were bantering that we're like in situation ships and wearing it proudly.
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Like men won't like claim the same energy at all.
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So, you know, a woman might think she's in a relationship, but it's so one-sided.
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By the way, did we, did I, Marquavius Martins, I see it's not starred here, Eric.
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Was that an acceptable read of your, because she's kind of mumbling through it.
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Yeah, I didn't, I didn't see it starred here, so I was going to pull it back up.
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As soon as she comes back, we're going to watch a video and then we're going to.
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Where was this when we were talking about gay rights?
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It was this girl, you know, she was sexy, had a nice big butt, whatever, whatever.
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And then at some point we got disconnected and then the next time I talked to her, she
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had, I guess, decided she was now a dude or whatever.
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But like she still had, I mean, she looked like a girl to me, but to her she was a dude.
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It was the way she was identifying, but she still anatomically was a girl?
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Oh, like pronoun, gender, gender and sex are two different things.
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And there's, that's a whole, we could get into the science.
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You know, we had sex when she called herself a girl.
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And then at some point she was like, all right.
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What are your thoughts of girls reusing guys from the past to make the body count number
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Or are they just spinning the block for their ex?
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Like, if the guy, what, if, it should count as, like, half a body, I think.
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Because if they've, like, fucked people's scents, like, for example.
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Yeah, exposure-wise, I feel like you gotta be careful.
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That would be kind of sad when they got to the last one and they were like, this is it.
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Like, say it was a terrible train accident, right?
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And the doctor was like, we have to remove your pussy right away.
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How would you keep your man past, you get a two month guilty, I can't leave the bitch right away because she just lost the pussy in a train accident.
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How would you keep your man past that if you didn't have a vagina?
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Yeah, I'd figure out a way to meet some biological needs.
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Now, I've been getting pussy-beating the whole show, right?
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But you just classified yourself as a series of holes.
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get another bitch that got a pussy to come on in.
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We're biologically programmed to want this, this, and this.
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and the sexual stuff is just another component.
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So, yeah, a logical answer is to answer about sexuality.
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It doesn't mean I'm classifying myself as a bunch of holes.
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But I just put the logic behind why we took the bait.
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Like, you should already be making the best sandwiches.
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Okay, so any fun thoughts quickly before I wrap up the show?
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I mean, I always have more questions, but I just...
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Well, throw us out, like, a final end question.
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I am trying to introduce a new paradigm in dating.
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So, like, I feel like when you ask most people that question,
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or B, like, be as successful and rich as I can be.
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And you don't seem to fall under either of those.
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where I'm, like, have a boss or anything like that.
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but probably that's at least five or ten million dollars.
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In San Francisco, they're talking about giving...