Whatever Podcast - Dating Talk #66

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00:04:11.460 after that thoroughly long winded introduction, I'm going to have the guests introduce themselves.

00:04:16.320 So please tell us your name, age, occupation. Go ahead. My name is Avery. I'm 28 and I do social

00:04:24.060 media and only fans. When you say, okay, you do social media. Okay. Yes. Only fans. Any other

00:04:30.680 kind of adult content or strictly only fans? Just only fans. Okay, cool. My name is Missy. I'm 30.

00:04:37.460 I do, um, a lot. Actually I bartend, I do only fans and I also do tattoo modeling for clothing brands.

00:04:43.680 Rock and roll. Hi, I'm Hannah Jo. Um, I'm college aged and I do only fans.

00:04:50.480 College age? Yes. Okay. All right. Fine. Whatever. Okay. What about you? Uh, my name is Kenny. I'm 32

00:04:58.380 and I work for the government. The government? I do. I'm an investigator for the government. You're

00:05:05.120 an investigator? Yeah. You didn't know that yet. I'm terrified. Um, what, like, are you,

00:05:12.120 when you say investigator, what, what are we talking about here? Uh, I investigate, I have to,

00:05:17.840 there's some words I can't use, but internet crimes against children. Yikes. Okay. Um,

00:05:23.540 and so are you, uh, is it, is it like a state agency, local Santa Barbara agency or? Uh,

00:05:30.560 it's a government agency. Okay. You want to keep it maybe a bit? Yeah. Fair enough. FBI? I work

00:05:35.940 closely with the FBI, but I am not FBI. Wow. But I know a lot of special agents, so be careful. No,

00:05:41.680 I'm just kidding. Oh, fuck. Okay. Already regretting me. No, I'm kidding. Uh, go ahead.

00:05:46.080 Hi, I'm Violet. I'm 24 and I do social media marketing and brand building. All right. Welcome.

00:05:53.220 Hi, I'm Gabby. Um, I'm an actress and model and I'm also a full-time college student studying

00:05:58.580 journalism. Age? Oh, I'm 29. 29. Okay. Yeah. Uh, my name is Marie. I am not nearly as interesting

00:06:09.360 as all these other beautiful women. Um, but I'm an HR manager, uh, here in Goleta. Um, yeah.

00:06:15.220 Did you say your age? Sorry. I'm 32. 32. Yo, Eric, this pen is scuffed. Can you go grab

00:06:22.320 me, keep it center and just grab me a different pen? It's under the, uh, island. What about

00:06:29.500 you? Um, hi, I'm Curia. I'm 19. I'm an admin in investment banking, a full-time college student

00:06:37.220 pursuing economics, and I create home content on TikTok. Home content on TikTok? What do you

00:06:44.720 mean by what? Um, like cleaning, cleaning and household tips, home decor, et cetera. Did

00:06:50.400 you say your age? 19. 19. Okay. Hi, I'm Edie. I'm 23 and I'm a tattoo artist. You said 23,

00:07:00.780 yeah? Mm-hmm. Holy shit, all these pens are scuffed. Okay. Um, cool, cool. Guys, everyone's

00:07:06.660 Instagram is in the description. Go check them out. Give them a follow. Um, okay. So

00:07:13.120 we're going to go around the table one more time. Uh, what is your current relationship

00:07:16.260 status? You know, are you single? You got friends with benefits, talking stage, situationship,

00:07:21.260 relationship, engaged, married, et cetera. And what is your longest relationship you've

00:07:25.540 ever had? Go ahead.

00:07:26.480 Okay. I'm single. I was in a situation ship like last week, but trying to stay away. So

00:07:34.060 we're going to go with single. Um, you're trying to stay away. Yeah. He keeps texting me, trying

00:07:39.520 to reel me back in, but I'm resisting. So how long was this, uh, situation ship going on

00:07:46.520 for? It was like three months. And I was like, all right, this is about the time when you start

00:07:52.020 dating, but, um, he, he didn't want to put a label on it. So I was like, I don't just

00:07:58.960 want to be a situation ship. So, so you wanted to put a label on it. Yeah. Okay. And you actually

00:08:04.260 talked to him. Yeah. I was like, I, I, cause I've just been in so many situationships and

00:08:08.800 I feel like three months, maybe, I don't know, maybe I shouldn't have these time limits, but

00:08:12.940 I feel like three months is about the time when it should start turning into something.

00:08:17.860 And if it's still like these once a week nightly hangouts, that's when I think, yeah, this

00:08:23.560 is not going anywhere. So you brought up a conversation about wanting more. Yeah. And

00:08:28.440 he said, no, he's like, no, I'd like to just keep it when it's at. Okay. But he's still

00:08:33.360 sliding back and he's like, you know, if you want to like come over and watch Marvel movies

00:08:36.620 and do our usual thing, like I'm down. Okay. I'm like, no, I really want to finish the

00:08:41.240 Marvel series, but I can't do it. Okay. So single freshly out of a three month

00:08:46.940 situationship. What's your longest relationship you've had? Four years. Four years. Okay.

00:08:52.440 Got it. Okay. What about you? I am talking to somebody. Um, how would you classify it?

00:08:59.980 Situationship, talking stage. We're on the talking stages. Okay. Um, he doesn't live in

00:09:04.320 the same state. Yikes. Okay. What state Montana? Uh, more like the Mormon state. Oh, what? The

00:09:13.460 Mormon state. Utah. Okay. So is he Mormon? No, he's definitely not Mormon. No. He gets

00:09:22.020 asked that question a lot. How long have you been talking to this guy? I'd say like a month.

00:09:26.100 A month. Okay. And then your longest relationship? My longest relationship was about four years.

00:09:31.180 Four years. On and off. Yes. Okay. Rock and roll. Uh, did you guys, how did you guys meet?

00:09:38.300 Was it here? Instagram. Through Instagram. He slid into your DMs or? I slid into his. You slid,

00:09:44.340 you slid into his. Does he have a blue check mark? He does. Yes. Athlete? Uh, I don't know.

00:09:51.040 Musician? No. Like bodybuilding. Bodybuilding. Okay. So like Natty or like, is he, is he on some like

00:10:00.040 trend? Uh, I don't think so. I think it's all natural. All Natty? Okay. All Natty. All right.

00:10:04.960 Well, you've narrowed it down. He lives in Utah. Natty bodybuilder. I think the chat's probably

00:10:10.520 going to figure out. Okay. And you said you've been talking to him for a month. Yeah. Um, you,

00:10:16.900 you slid into his DMs, correct? Correct. Okay. How did you, did you just stumble on his thing?

00:10:21.880 Were you stalking him for months? What was the, somehow I found him on the explore page

00:10:27.520 and, uh, I follow like every hot tattooed guy that I see on my explore page and, um, just

00:10:34.280 started. Okay. Would I have a question for you? Okay. What would that stop if you were in a

00:10:42.220 relationship? Yes. Okay. Okay. All right. Moving on. Go ahead. I am in a relationship. Okay. How long

00:10:50.460 have you been in said relationship? Four years. Four years. So is that your longest? So far. Yeah.

00:10:57.080 Relationship. Okay. Are you guys going to get married? You think? I hope so. You want to? Yeah,

00:11:02.880 I do. But he wants me to propose to him. He wants you to propose to him. Yeah. Okay. Cause he's

00:11:08.300 already been engaged once before and he doesn't want to do it again. And I think, I also think it

00:11:12.140 would be adorable to propose to him. You think it'd be adorable to propose to him? Yeah. Okay. Here.

00:11:17.640 Can you use this ring here to do it? To do it? To propose to him. To propose to him? I'll give it to

00:11:25.340 you after the show. How about that? Oh, sure. Okay. I thought you meant right now. Oh, do you think

00:11:30.480 he's watching? Does he? Um, I don't know if he's watching. Here. I want you to look into this camera

00:11:34.680 right here. Stare deeply into the camera. Deep. And I want you to say, Cornelio. That's

00:11:42.780 his name, right? We'll say it's Cornelio. Okay. Yeah. Just to keep, just to keep his identity

00:11:47.060 safe. Uh, Bert. How about Bert? I don't like that. I like Cornelio. Okay. Fine. We'll propose

00:11:53.320 to your. Can I have the ring? Sure. Can you pass that along? You're close enough. What am I

00:12:02.520 doing? Cornelio, love of my life. Will you marry me? I'll make you cookies if you say yes. Oh,

00:12:11.260 hold on a minute. I think, I think we actually have him, um, tuned in here to the, uh, he's

00:12:19.320 in via discord. That's his response. I'm sorry. He rejected your proposal. Okay, cool. All right.

00:12:27.440 You can send it back this. Um, okay, cool. What about you? Um, I am single. Yes. And my

00:12:33.880 longest relationship was about four years. What's okay. Y'all, everyone's been four year

00:12:39.940 relationships so far. Okay. How long have you been single? Oh gosh. A couple months. A couple

00:12:45.940 months. Okay. Got it. Um, all right. What about you? I'm single. Um, my longest relationship

00:12:53.760 was seven years. All right. Oh, I'm single and my longest relationship was six years.

00:13:06.460 Uh, I'm in a relationship. Um, a little less than a year. I know I'm going to marry this

00:13:12.580 man. Um, and yeah, uh, before this I was in a 10 year relationship. Wow. Okay. So

00:13:20.240 you know, you're going to marry him. Have you guys had that conversation? Yes. Um, we've

00:13:26.500 had that conversation. He didn't want kids before me, but now we've decided we want kids.

00:13:31.500 I want kids. So, um, it's the healthiest relationship I've ever been in and yeah. So he didn't want

00:13:38.240 kids, but you convinced him or just, you're so fantastic. No, he realized that he, no, I

00:13:43.120 not to sound like that, but he, uh, didn't realize he didn't want to seek someone out or

00:13:50.160 he didn't want to be with a woman that was just trying to find someone to have a baby with.

00:13:54.240 And that was his fear. Um, and, uh, I think just being with someone in a healthy relationship

00:14:02.580 made him realize that he wants my kids. Got it. What about you? I'm seeing someone and

00:14:09.140 my longest relationship was a little over two years. How long have you been seeing this new

00:14:13.460 guy? Um, is it two years? No, uh, we went on our first date last week. And so I guess since

00:14:22.060 then, I guess since then, sorry. Okay. What about you? Um, I'm single. I'm single and my longest

00:14:31.860 relationship was about two years. Single, two years. Okay. All right. Okay. So we have

00:14:39.060 one, two, three, four, five people who are single here. So, um, I guess in today's day and age, what

00:14:46.000 does single actually mean? And I kind of prompted it initially, you know, are you single friends

00:14:53.120 with benefits talking state situation ship? Cause a lot of people would categorize themselves

00:14:56.700 as being single, but hooking up with someone being in the situation ship, but because there's

00:15:03.740 no label, you still consider yourself single. So you said you're just got out of a situation ship.

00:15:09.680 So is there, have you lined up a rebound or I've been swiping on the dating apps, but haven't found

00:15:15.700 something better yet? So it's hard. Okay. So that's why I keep going back to his text messages.

00:15:25.620 Okay. So you're in a talking stage sort of with a, have you met in person yet? Yes. Yes. Did you fly

00:15:32.900 there? Did he fly here? I flew there. Okay. Wow. You're pretty into the sky. Savage. Okay. Uh,

00:15:41.060 what about you? You got, got a little hookup thing here? No. Friends with benefits there? No,

00:15:51.700 not really. That just, I'd rather just, I like to be alone. It's either I have a boyfriend or I'm

00:15:58.780 alone. I don't really like to date. I don't like to hook up. It happens. It happens. Yeah.

00:16:05.040 Occasionally. Occasionally. Time to time. Okay. Cool. Same. Yeah. I like sex. Same. Yeah.

00:16:11.820 So. As you should. Vouch. Vouch. I really, really though? Yeah. Yeah. You think? Okay. Yes. Do

00:16:20.860 you not enjoy sex? I don't follow the logic on that one, but what do you mean? But she said

00:16:27.800 she enjoys sex and you asked really? Oh no, I meant really as in compartmentalizing. So in other

00:16:34.640 words, not going on dates, not hooking up outside of a relationship. Cause I mean, it, it seems

00:16:43.260 to me, I mean, most adult relationships, it's not, let's go on seven dates, wait to have sex

00:16:49.200 and then get into a relationship. It's typically people hook up fairly early on and they continue

00:16:54.420 hooking up having sex and then they find themselves in a relationship. Right? Yeah. I'd say that's

00:16:59.160 how it goes. Yeah. Yeah. I've never done that. You've never done that? I'm the opposite. I'm

00:17:03.580 like by third date. Yeah. We got to see if we connect in that way. You've, you've never

00:17:08.340 done that? No. Stop the cap. Come on. No cap. I'm so serious. You've never had a one night

00:17:13.180 stand. I didn't say that. It's the same shit. Hold on. I don't like, I don't really believe

00:17:20.440 in casual sex, so I don't hook up with people. Like. Didn't you say you had a one night stand

00:17:26.060 though? It's happened. Oh, it's happened. Okay. One time. One time. In my life. Yeah. One

00:17:29.720 time. Yeah. But like on a regular basis, I don't believe in casual sex. Like I just, I don't

00:17:36.840 know. Multiply it by three and that's the real number. I have a vibrator for that. I

00:17:41.740 mean, I've only had one boyfriend and I'm 29. So. You've had one boyfriend and you're

00:17:47.180 29. Yeah. It was the six year one. What was the, uh, from what age to what age was your

00:17:51.600 six year relationship? Uh, 22 until like, I don't know, like last year, a little bit

00:17:58.500 of double backing, but. What's that? What do you mean? Like, okay. So we broke up, uh, last

00:18:05.260 year, but you know, kind of went back, got like started talking to each other again,

00:18:11.580 but not really got back together, but I don't know. I'm so like attached. So I don't know.

00:18:17.480 Okay. Yeah. All right. Sorry. What were you saying? I, you said something I wanted to touch

00:18:22.100 on, but it slipped my mind. Sure. What, uh, should I just repeat myself? Sure. Yeah. I

00:18:27.460 said, usually I don't have a lot of casual sex, but you know, three dates in you want to

00:18:34.860 see if you connect with somebody. Sure. Okay. I think sex is important in a relationship.

00:18:38.920 It's not number one, but it's top three. So yeah, I'd like to know if we can connect

00:18:43.860 cause I've had some bad sex, you know? Oh yeah. Congratulations. Good times. Good times.

00:18:49.860 Yeah. Well on that note, so you said by date three, that's usually mine. Yeah. Yeah. I've

00:18:55.580 definitely heard that people will have like a three date rule and if it doesn't happen by

00:18:59.740 then I typically hear this more so from the guy's end where the sex doesn't happen by the

00:19:04.980 third date, it's like, she's just not interested or just like, you know, whatever. But, um,

00:19:09.860 I mean, yeah, we're all different. We're all, yeah, not every single woman is going to be the

00:19:14.760 same, but that's how I view it. Okay. Got it. Got it. Well, on that note, let's go around the

00:19:21.520 table on this. Um, how long do you think you should wait before hooking up with someone before

00:19:28.280 having sex? Go ahead. Oh, be honest to be honest. See, I've made the mistake of hooking

00:19:37.400 up after the first date and it does not ever go well for me personally. So I'm trying to

00:19:42.680 learn from my mistakes now. Um, I think, I think third date, I think third date. Yeah. Third

00:19:52.080 by the third date, the third, after the third date, like if you guys go out to dinner, then

00:19:56.600 maybe afterwards I would. So you would wait until the third date? Yeah. Okay. Okay. What

00:20:02.680 about you? I feel like for me, I don't know. It's hard to say for me. I'd personally wait

00:20:11.420 maybe like a month, let's say a month just to see if I can test myself. Well, yeah, this body

00:20:21.460 filter, right? Well, we were, we were talking for a little bit beforehand before I decided

00:20:27.440 to fly out there. But when you did fly out there. Oh, it was like, yeah. Question on that

00:20:37.480 from the point that you first actually met in person, what was the duration of time that,

00:20:44.460 that occurred? An hour. Before y'all got to it? An hour. Okay. So, so, so long as you've talked

00:20:54.360 online for a period of time, you've, I mean, did you guys have any phone conversations? Yes. Okay.

00:21:00.140 Yes. Okay. So you wait until the third date? Yeah. Have you always had that standard? No,

00:21:07.160 I used to do it right away. Cause I, I just am a people pleaser. And I used to think that

00:21:14.600 sex would make them fall in love with me. So I was like, yeah, you know, um, I just wanted

00:21:22.520 to do a really good job. I thought if I did a really good job, then it would make them fall

00:21:25.060 in love with me. Obviously that did not work out. So what about, you said you were just out

00:21:30.480 of a, uh, situationship. How long did you wait with this guy? It was the third date, third

00:21:36.420 date, but it still didn't work out for me. Still didn't work out. So maybe we need to

00:21:39.040 move it to the fifth date now. I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. I think women in some ways are

00:21:45.340 kind of damned if damned, if they do damned, if they don't, because on one hand, even if

00:21:50.320 you do wait, it doesn't necessarily guarantee that the relationship's going to work, obviously,

00:21:56.320 you know, but, uh, but yeah, it's kind of on one hand, you wait too long and that could

00:22:02.000 be an issue. But if you too quick, some guys might view it negatively. So it's, uh, it is

00:22:06.320 a bit of a difficult, uh, position. Um, okay. So how long do you think you should?

00:22:12.120 I don't think I can give an answer because I think it's entirely circumstantial. Like

00:22:16.640 you're not going to have the same connection with everybody. So with one person, you might

00:22:20.900 feel more comfortable waiting. And with one person, you might feel more comfortable just

00:22:24.400 jumping right in. I think it's, it's, there's no rule. When you say more comfortable just jumping

00:22:30.300 right in, do you mean that you recognize that perhaps, for example, maybe some girls

00:22:36.420 here have had this experience that if you don't hook up with him, maybe he's like really

00:22:42.060 attractive, like a high status or whatever it may be really attractive. You're concerned

00:22:48.580 that you might lose him or not get him because if you don't sleep with him too quick, I don't

00:22:54.740 do that. No. Okay. Cause there's definitely guys like if they're, they don't want to wait,

00:22:59.480 you know, so. If he's worth keeping around, he'll stay around. I won't have to make him

00:23:03.720 with my body. Okay. Were you about, were you about to do some snapping? What about you?

00:23:09.540 Yeah. No, I would say I'm usually about three dates. Oh yeah. Yeah. Okay. Three dates.

00:23:15.360 But I agree. I think there's circumstances where in which you might wait longer and or quicker.

00:23:21.440 Yeah. Just depends. Say your friends beforehand. Right. I mean, how long does that last?

00:23:25.720 So just jump in in that situation. Maybe. I don't know. Yeah.

00:23:29.480 Sure. Yeah. I don't know. It's up to you. Sure. There's always variables. What about you?

00:23:34.560 Yeah. I mean, when I go on dates, I tend to have that conversation pretty early on

00:23:39.000 on what my partner's comfortable with and what they would desire and vice versa, what I'm looking

00:23:44.920 for. And if I don't feel that connection or spark on the first date or second date, I prolong

00:23:49.900 it until I get to know that person. I become more comfortable with them.

00:23:53.180 Okay. What about you?

00:23:54.340 Um, I think it just depends. Like I really just go off a vibe. Like, I don't know, but

00:24:01.140 the last relationship I was in, we didn't have sex for like three months. I feel like

00:24:06.300 if when you feel like a connection with the person, then that's when it happens. I don't

00:24:12.340 know. I don't put like numbers or dates to it. It's like a feeling.

00:24:15.900 Okay. Yeah. I completely agree. It's all, um, depending on the situation and like what

00:24:24.060 you want out of it. I mean, if you are connecting with someone and you can really see this like

00:24:28.940 lasting a long time, sex shouldn't make that, shouldn't make any difference really. Um, but

00:24:36.000 if you're like, this guy's cool for a hookup, then so be it. Sure. Um, yeah. Um, I think

00:24:43.760 that you guys are right. It's completely circumstantial and we all differentiate. However, me personally,

00:24:50.620 three to six months personally, three to six months. Yes. Oh, did you want me to like say

00:24:57.600 why or elucidate it? Oh, okay. Um, mostly cause I did experience what you experienced and I did

00:25:03.960 think that doing certain things would make whoever fall in love with me until I, you know, figured

00:25:09.040 out, no, this is not how to do it. This is not the way to go about it. Thankfully it only happened

00:25:13.600 once. Um, so with my last relationship, I made him wait about three to four months, mostly because

00:25:20.780 that's when the honeymoon, the three to four months after exclusivity. So again, that could also range,

00:25:26.880 but that's when the honeymoon phase ends. So I feel like that's a good time to like lock it in,

00:25:32.040 you know, like this is like the last step before, you know, cause I date to marry. So it's like,

00:25:36.720 I don't know. I don't know if I explained that right, but I feel like you guys understand what

00:25:40.360 I'm trying to say. But so you said that previously, this is a new rule of yours waiting three to six

00:25:46.060 months, correct? Um, well it happened after that one occurrence. Yes. That one occurrence where you

00:25:52.800 hooked up too soon and he ghosted you or what? Um, no, it was more like a friends with benefits

00:26:01.360 situation with a guy too old to be doing that with someone my age at the time.

00:26:06.600 What do you mean? How old were you? How old was he?

00:26:09.400 I was, I just turned 15 and he was a junior in college.

00:26:15.480 That's a yikes. Okay.

00:26:17.260 That's illegal.

00:26:17.940 Yikes. She, yeah.

00:26:20.000 Yeah.

00:26:21.880 Oh my God. I thought it was going to be like you're 19, 18 and he's like in his thirties.

00:26:28.340 No. 19, some shit like that.

00:26:30.000 You're a victim.

00:26:31.040 That's a, Jesus Christ. Okay. So what, and besides that one example, were there, uh,

00:26:40.940 were there other situations where you were hooking up with people kind of more quickly or?

00:26:46.460 Well, if I'm being perfectly honest, after that occurrence has ended, what, what, when it did end,

00:26:52.660 I didn't think that I was worthy of love at all after that. Cause you know, I get, like she said,

00:26:58.280 I was a victim or whatever. So I didn't really think that, you know, I was already scarred. I grew

00:27:03.000 up very religious. My virginity was gone. So I kind of hooked up a little bit and then I found

00:27:08.480 religion again. And I know this is like, I'm not a born again virgin or anything, but then I found

00:27:13.420 myself again and I was just like, yeah, this isn't going to work. So whenever I was in the mindset to

00:27:18.360 date again, that was the rule. So my first and only boyfriend, I did wait. And then now I'm going

00:27:24.980 to wait with the next one. Okay. Okay. Got it. Can I ask a question? Yeah, go ahead. Yeah. Um,

00:27:32.260 is this solely based on like sex or the control that you want with it? You mentioned that you made,

00:27:38.360 you mentioned that you made him wait six months. Oh, I didn't like, I mean, I had a conversation with

00:27:43.100 him about it. Like once I was comfortable enough and I was like, okay, I'm not really comfortable

00:27:48.340 having sexual relations with you. Uh, I didn't tell him what happened. I just wasn't comfortable

00:27:53.280 with it. And then he was just like, okay. And then I, whenever I was comfortable with it,

00:27:57.360 we just did it. Um, but he never really initiated anything like that. Yeah. Okay. I'm sorry. I was

00:28:05.660 just curious. No, that's fine. Uh, what about you? Um, I typically like to talk to someone for a good

00:28:13.640 amount of time and get to know them before anything happening. Into the mic, please.

00:28:19.180 Before anything happening. So how long? At least a month of like talking. At least one month. Yeah.

00:28:27.720 Like one, two, three months talking, getting to know them. I like to talk to someone for like maybe

00:28:34.000 a few weeks before even meeting up with them just to like test the waters of like who they are or

00:28:38.780 stuff like that. But have you had any previous experiences where you just hooked up really quick?

00:28:46.300 Um, I had, yeah. Okay. Like I sometimes called like a ho phase party phase, you know, you know,

00:28:54.300 you don't like that. Of course I did. Yeah. Oh, oh, okay. I thought you were like grimacing at the

00:28:59.340 term ho phase, but guys can have ho phases too, I guess. Um, so everyone, everyone's had ho phases,

00:29:05.460 I guess. I don't know about everybody. I wish I had one. What's that? I wish I had one. Oh my,

00:29:09.840 don't say that. That's okay. Yeah. The audio is kind of seems a bit low. I don't know if you can

00:29:15.720 boost it to 80, Eric. Um, one quick reminder, and I do want to hit on this topic. Um, guys,

00:29:22.600 TTS is through stream labs only just a reminder. TTS is through stream labs only now. Um, here,

00:29:28.540 let me just get this one though. Just to clarify James Wilson. Thank you for the Canadian 140 man.

00:29:33.240 Appreciate it. Uh, yeah. Maybe, sorry if this, you thought it would go through as a TTS, just,

00:29:38.700 uh, only through stream labs where is TTS question for Brian and in, and in know that you've said this

00:29:46.060 before. However, you have a lot of new viewers, subscribers. So can you please explain the seven

00:29:50.560 on the collar for everyone? Cheers. Uh, I might reveal that maybe on episode 77, maybe we'll see.

00:29:59.660 Uh, but, uh, yeah, it's kind of a mystery. So, um, don't worry. It's not like some cold shit,

00:30:05.080 but, uh, yeah, it's just, anyways. Um, okay. Thank you. Thank you, James. Merci beaucoup pour le

00:30:10.600 Canadian. C'est vraiment, tu es vraiment génial. C'est bien ça. Okay. Um, so I kind of wanted to come

00:30:18.720 back to what you said and a couple of you said. So shifting standards on this, which I think is kind

00:30:26.780 of interesting. Um, so my feeling on this is, and it rubs me the wrong way and I want to make it

00:30:35.800 clear. Like, obviously it's totally, you know, if you want to wait until marriage and you previously

00:30:40.960 slept with a hundred people, that's your call. However, like I think a lot of men and a lot of

00:30:47.020 guys are going to look at that and be like, well, you had one standard before and now you've shifted

00:30:52.820 it. And again, a hundred percent your call. It's, it's your call, but men are also free to

00:30:57.320 like feel a certain type of way about this shift in the same way that, for example, I guess I could

00:31:02.760 give a, maybe a somewhat equivalent. So let me get your thoughts on this guys. Let's say you've been

00:31:10.900 in a relationship with a guy for six months. Sorry, excuse me, situationship with a guy for six

00:31:15.380 months. You really like him. You want him to commit to you, but he says he likes to take things slow.

00:31:21.300 Somehow you find out that the last three girls he had a committed relationship with,

00:31:26.840 he initiated the commitment conversation after only three weeks of dating. Would that make you

00:31:32.720 feel a certain way? Yeah. Yeah. You'd feel like, well, what, why don't you want to commit to me,

00:31:40.760 but all these, your previous ex-girlfriends. No, I think that's showing growth and change.

00:31:45.600 Yeah. Cause maybe it obviously didn't work out for him. So maybe he's trying something different

00:31:51.100 now. How does that reflect the person that he's dating now? It's showing growth that he previously

00:31:57.440 had long-term, he, he got into long-term relationships early and now he's in a perhaps

00:32:04.540 non-monogamous situationship with you for six months. I'm not sure I see how that's growth. I'm not

00:32:10.480 saying that that's a wrong thing necessarily. Well, I guess that's fair. It could be the other

00:32:16.720 way. It could be negative, but at least he's trying something different. I mean, he's showing

00:32:21.240 habitual patterns that he's not currently interested in. So he's showing a pattern of

00:32:26.280 behavior that, and it seems to be that he is non-monogamous in this situationship is what you're

00:32:34.880 stating. Am I wrong? What's that? Am I, am I wrong to assume that this individual is not

00:32:39.940 participating in monogamy in this situationship? Well, it's a situationship. So I mean, maybe it's

00:32:45.280 monogamous, maybe it's not. It's fluid. Okay. Um, yeah, I would consider it a red flag. If you're not

00:32:51.040 sure about how you perceive me or want to be with me six months in and you're still wanting to see other

00:32:57.640 people and you have previous record of doing something otherwise, then no, your, your habit is off and I'm

00:33:04.020 not interested. Yeah. I would think he's playing games. Like what's up? Well, being in a

00:33:11.220 situationship for six months is ridiculous in itself. Not the fact that it's passed. It kind of

00:33:17.440 is, but I think people find themselves. If it's a problem for the girl, then it depends on the

00:33:21.640 communication. Sure. Right. I mean, here's, did you guys have one to come in on this? I just, I was in a

00:33:28.420 situationship for two years once. So to me, like six months is, it's not okay. It just, it sucks. And

00:33:35.760 then to hear that, that, that he was doing something different before, it just seems like she's not the

00:33:39.660 right girl then. Here, here's maybe a better example than this. Um, so let's say you've been dating a guy

00:33:48.220 for six months. Let's say, let's say it's a relationship. Uh, he's kind of a home body. He,

00:33:56.940 uh, doesn't really like to go out too much. Maybe occasionally you guys get dinner, but he doesn't

00:34:01.060 really take you out. You, you like him and he likes you, but doesn't really take you out. Doesn't get

00:34:06.420 you gifts, no vacations, anything like that. You find out that the last three relationships he had,

00:34:13.020 he treated his girls all the time to fancy dinners. He, he paid for vacations. He'd get them

00:34:22.900 gifts, all his previous relationships, but with you, he doesn't feeling on that. No, that would

00:34:31.960 make me really sad. That would make me feel like I'm, I'm like the least special out of everyone he's

00:34:35.660 dated. Sure. You get friend zoned after that. Yeah. Like you're just a homie. The guy who gets

00:34:42.000 friends. Yeah. Like if you like, yeah, we're just homies then. Okay. What about you? I don't know.

00:34:47.040 I feel like it depends on the person. It depends. You can't let's, let's try to avoid it. Depends.

00:34:52.100 Okay. Well, it's just like everything. I think it's, I think it's unfair to judge somebody on

00:34:56.700 their past. Um, if he did treat all his past girlfriends like that, then the best thing you

00:35:01.060 can do is just ask him why. If it's an issue with the relationship, then lay your grounds for what

00:35:05.680 you expect from each other. If not go your separate ways, in my opinion. Um, it could be that he's

00:35:10.800 feeling like hurt still from the last experiences. Like he gave too much of himself to those girls

00:35:15.320 and he's afraid to do it again. If that's the case, he should communicate it, but that won't

00:35:19.440 happen unless you address what's making you uncomfortable. Like, Hey, I found out you did

00:35:23.180 all these things for these girls. What's different about me? Do you not see a future with me? And if

00:35:28.880 he can't answer that. Is it? I don't know. I was thinking maybe it's a little unhealthy to compare

00:35:35.100 yourself to his past relationships. So maybe just stick to the own standards that you have set.

00:35:39.880 So if you're like, okay, I like these certain things, you know, and he's not doing it, then

00:35:47.580 that's a problem. But if you don't care about that stuff, then why does it matter? That's

00:35:52.880 true. I mean, for me personally, like I, I'm like a big adventure bug. I love to travel.

00:35:59.180 I love to like get out and do things. And if he's a homebody, like that's not going to work

00:36:04.280 out as is. And it like, aside from the gifts, like I could afford my own stuff, you know,

00:36:10.080 I don't need the gifts, but it's like the, the, the, the big red flag for me would be

00:36:13.740 the homebody aspect, you know, cause I like to get out. I like to go travel and I want

00:36:17.800 to do fun shit.

00:36:19.360 Sure. Okay. Then let's, let's perhaps exclude the homebody component and just, he bought all

00:36:25.220 his ex-girlfriend's gifts. He paid for, he paid for dates, he paid for vacations, but with

00:36:30.720 you, no. He probably realized he was tracking, attracting the wrong women with all of that.

00:36:35.560 Yeah. I feel like in a relationship, it should be like a 50, 50 split. Like, you know, I like,

00:36:40.720 I like to spoil my dudes too, you know, like when I'm dating someone, I genuinely like to

00:36:45.320 pay for dinner. I like to pay for concert tickets. I like to be out and do things that are fun.

00:36:50.580 Okay. And I have no problem buying. I'll have, I'll have you answer it, but really quick,

00:36:54.360 you mentioned 50, 50 relationships. Uh, who here is in favor of 50, 50 relationships?

00:37:02.380 Is this actually, can I say I prefer a hundred, a hundred? Nobody should be giving

00:37:06.280 semantics, but okay. Um, but, uh, just another show of hands. I didn't see every, uh, who believes

00:37:15.200 in 50, 50, a hundred, a hundred relationships? What does that even mean though? Wait, so hold

00:37:20.240 on, keep your hands up. Do you mean like money, like materialistic things? Well, I mean, I think

00:37:24.420 that's often the paradigm in which it's, it's viewed in. Um, but I mean, it could come down to,

00:37:30.980 uh, household labor, uh, in that way. Um, I often hear though, I mean, when it comes

00:37:39.900 to 50, 50, usually the protection component is not part of it. So for example, like the

00:37:46.120 expectation that your male partner protect you in, in the event of a home invasion, for

00:37:51.920 example, or killing spiders that typically. Oh, I need that. I need protection. I can kill

00:37:58.640 spiders. Okay. All right. Yeah. Hell yeah. There you go. Um, but, uh, so you didn't

00:38:07.320 Are you talking more about like roles? Into the mic, please. Are you talking more about

00:38:10.320 like roles in the relationship where it's like 50? I suppose. Yeah. Okay. So like, I mean,

00:38:15.380 the obvious ones that occur to me is paying for the first date, providing. So do you want

00:38:21.900 to be 50, 50 with the person? Do you want maybe, you know, in a long-term relationship, you

00:38:27.100 know, some arrangements, there's a partner that's staying, stay at home, taking care of

00:38:32.040 the kids, the family, whereas the other person's the breadwinner. So yeah, I didn't see everyone

00:38:40.600 who was raised their hand for 50, 50, but yes, 50, 50. No. So you two, no on 50, 50. No, no

00:38:52.780 50, 50. I don't agree with all the qualities. Don't agree. What about you? No, no, absolutely

00:38:58.780 not. Absolutely not. Go into that a little bit. Why? Sure. I think nowadays, um, I'm not

00:39:05.600 going to say all men, but a lot of men look to women to be everything, right? We have to

00:39:11.820 have jobs that make a lot of money. We have to, well, most men that I talk to do, I see

00:39:17.840 your face. Like most men that you talk to, well, if we're talking about 50, 50, if they're

00:39:22.660 paying half the rent, they better have some money under their, under their hands. Right?

00:39:26.740 So if we're going 50, 50, no, I think that's bullshit. As a woman, I'm coming in there like,

00:39:32.600 okay, I'm literally going to do everything and anything you want. Okay. In the bedroom,

00:39:37.380 I, you know, blow jobs are jobs, honey. So yeah, absolutely. I want you to pay for all of

00:39:43.360 my shit. Wait, hold on. Feminism. Feminism. That's feminism. Oh, here we go. Before I

00:39:55.780 responded, one, maybe you guys had a response over here. Um, okay. Sorry. Um, so when you

00:40:04.380 sit, I'm just piggybacking off what you said. Yes. Um, so a lot of the men, especially the

00:40:09.480 men who like to watch the show love to like throw crap onto feminism and I'm not a feminist

00:40:14.680 myself, so I can see both perspectives. However, men are also victims of feminism or the feminist

00:40:21.620 movement because the feminist movement tells women that, you know, I mean, inadvertently.

00:40:27.040 So because you could be everything, you could be anything you want to be now, you know, we're

00:40:31.620 equal with rights and all that fun stuff. We could be anything we want to be, but we are

00:40:37.060 interpreting it as we need to be and do everything. And the men are also now interpreting it like

00:40:43.320 that. So I just, I don't believe in 50, 50 relationships and I personally want to be a

00:40:48.360 stay at home mom one day. So it's just, it's not going to cut it. It's not going to work out,

00:40:53.220 you know, like what the woman's supposed to pay half the bills and do all of the housework. That

00:40:57.860 just doesn't make sense. That's like 70, 30. Yeah. That's more what I'm talking about. Like

00:41:02.180 at least pay maybe 30% of the bills and she does more of the housework. Like it has to

00:41:07.140 be a certain, you know, just can't be like, you know what I mean? Yeah. I feel like kids

00:41:10.520 make a huge difference in this conversation. Absolutely. So. And we're usually the ones

00:41:15.960 having kids. So we're the only ones having kids. I mean, we're spending nine, 10 months

00:41:22.360 really. And you're going to base your relationship off of that, even if you don't plan to have

00:41:26.200 kids with this person. No, but I think, you know, feminism isn't a bad thing. Of course,

00:41:30.860 there's always going to be extremists, right? That are like, oh, just hate men, just hate

00:41:34.920 men. I don't believe that. But isn't feminism all about equality? No, it is about equality

00:41:39.640 for sure. But I think there's more to it. We've been completely erased from history.

00:41:44.520 And now. Meronious! Meronious! And now. Hold on. Wait, no, no, no. Feminism's about equality.

00:41:50.520 Let me, just hold on. Just hold on. Even now there have studies that have been shown that

00:41:55.760 quite literally show that when women start dominating a man's career, the cost of that

00:42:03.540 job goes down, right? So once women go into the field, how much they're making goes down. Because

00:42:09.420 it's women now, right? They don't really care about us as much. I mean, you can see that now

00:42:15.100 with just health care, you know? I mean, I can't go to every state and have necessary health care.

00:42:19.840 That's really scary for me, right? And that's where I'm coming from, is like, no, we should have,

00:42:25.880 you know, the same. You're talking about abortion laws, right? Yeah, abortion laws, yes.

00:42:29.380 Yeah, and also, at the same time, it's becoming more dangerous for women. Because in certain fields,

00:42:36.580 like, I forgot the statistics, but in certain fields, women do make the same amount as men. And I'm

00:42:42.660 from New York. So in New York specifically, women out-earn men. In the age group from 20 to 40,

00:42:49.460 women out-earn men. We're more educated, too. Yeah, that's it. So all educated women in

00:42:53.940 Manhattan alone out-earn men. And this is, at least over there, it's making it really dangerous

00:42:59.780 for women because men still want to feel dominant. And they will inadvertently try to dominate the

00:43:05.100 woman in another way, like a domestic violence thing, you know, or emotional abuse to try to be

00:43:10.240 like, you know, I'm the man, even if you're making them more money. Because even if you're not

00:43:13.080 emasculating him, if you're making more than him, and you're still, like, splitting it 50-50,

00:43:17.540 you'll have more saved, you'll have more invested, and you'll feel bad. Depending on the man,

00:43:22.160 but I'm pretty sure this is most. I definitely respect that. But what you have to understand

00:43:25.420 is globally, men hold far more money than women ever will. So, well, maybe not will, but right now.

00:43:34.460 80% of consumer spending is done by women. Women hold the majority of debt. Yes. So.

00:43:39.960 But, I mean, the most billionaires, millionaires are men. I mean, that's the apex fallacy.

00:43:45.740 You're looking. Tell me about that. The apex fallacy. You're looking at the top percentage

00:43:49.380 of men, which happen to be a very small proportion of men, and attributing to that as, to men as a

00:43:55.400 class, as a group. But don't you do that when it comes to, I can't bring it up. I'm about to use a

00:44:02.020 P word that we're not allowed to use. Oh, my God. I don't see how that's at all relevant.

00:44:06.720 Oh, I do. Okay. So, 99% of sexual perpetrators are male, and. That's false. No, look it up. Look

00:44:14.240 it up right now. What about all these women teachers that are. Right. Let me get into that,

00:44:18.320 because this is quite literally my background. This is what I do for a living. So, I can tell you that

00:44:23.620 it is 99% of sexual perpetrators are male. You can look that up right now. That's false. Yeah.

00:44:28.460 And I'm telling you, this, this is what bugs me about men who say things like that. That is

00:44:32.740 willful ignorance. You can absolutely look that up and educate yourself right now, and you don't.

00:44:38.080 Why? It's not true. It is true. On its face, it's not true. Oh, my God. You have to look it up. How

00:44:44.560 can you say that's not true? What's your background? Where are your statistics coming from? It also

00:44:48.380 doesn't help that when a young man is, like, assaulted by an older teacher, instead of getting

00:44:52.080 support, you see the comments full of, wow, he should feel grateful. What a lucky boy. And I'm not saying

00:44:56.320 that men cannot be raped. They are absolutely being raped, but they're being raped by other

00:45:00.540 men. And they don't stand up for victims. Yes. So, women can absolutely rape. I've seen bad

00:45:06.540 cases in the cases that I've worked on with women, but this is a real statistic, and I'm

00:45:11.640 going to say it again, and you're going to say that's not true, but you can easily look

00:45:14.460 it up. So, that's willful ignorance if you don't want to. 80 to 90% of sexual, or excuse

00:45:20.160 me, child, you know what I'm saying, are male. 99% of sexual prostitutes are male. See,

00:45:27.240 you've just given me two different numbers. Previously, you said 99%. Yes, but we're talking

00:45:33.160 about pedophilia. Yes, we're talking about pedophilia alone. I specifically instructed

00:45:37.300 you before the show. Not to say it, and then when I looked at you and tried to say it, you

00:45:41.240 looked at me weird. I don't see how that's relevant to the conversation we're having. It is relevant

00:45:45.120 to the conversation. We're talking about men and women. Men have a far. But you're totally

00:45:49.100 derailing the conversation. We were previously talking about the wage gap. Of course.

00:45:55.120 Somehow. Absolutely. And now, and I'm talking about the apex fallacy. Right. And you want

00:46:00.140 to talk about something totally unrelated. And then it got into feminism, right? So, then

00:46:05.440 we were talking a little bit about feminism, and then I'm coming on here saying, okay, we're

00:46:09.800 looked at as women, as these horrible, awful people. And yet, what are you talking about?

00:46:15.220 It's a big difference between saying that. Who? Okay. Look at the chat. Oh, is everyone's

00:46:20.660 like hating me. It's okay. It's okay. Your viewers don't like us. Yeah. It's something

00:46:25.320 you can easily look up. I'm not sitting here saying like, oh, okay. We're not going to talk

00:46:29.360 about that statistic. Sure. Okay. Okay. Fine. Let's take children out of it. That's fair. And yes,

00:46:36.800 yes. But still, based off of that, 99% of sexual perpetrators are male. That's a real

00:46:42.700 statistic. I don't see how that's at all relevant to this conversation. Right. But we're

00:46:48.300 talking about men and women. I'm failing to see. Okay. Right? Yeah. I don't see how that's

00:46:54.280 relevant at all. Oh, see, I do. I think there's a big difference there. And are you just trying

00:47:02.120 to point out that men do bad things? Like, I don't understand. Okay. Yeah. Maybe I have

00:47:07.940 derailed the conversation a little bit and I can definitely respect that. I think I'm coming

00:47:11.820 more from a, you know, a different background, right? I've seen the worst of humanity. And

00:47:17.760 so I'm coming forward saying, oh, all these people are like hating on women saying X, Y,

00:47:22.520 and Z about women. But there's so much more to the story. If they directed their energy

00:47:27.560 that they use to fuel hate towards women who live sexually fulfilled lives towards men who

00:47:32.580 sexually assault. I don't know. I just feel like that's a better way to funnel all that

00:47:36.120 energy. The fuck are you guys, I don't even know what you guys are talking about. Like,

00:47:41.340 I'm, I, I literally don't see your question then. Yeah, that's fine. Let's go back to your

00:47:46.020 question. We were talking about 50, 50. Correct. Okay. Yes. And then we got into feminism.

00:47:50.180 We got into other things. Things got derailed. Yes. No, I don't believe in 50, 50,

00:47:54.600 but you're a feminist. Yes. How do you reconcile that? Uh, no, I respect that. I re I think when it

00:48:01.360 comes to, you know, parenting shore, I think it should be 50, 50, obviously. Uh, but do you most

00:48:08.020 feminists are not in favor of shared custody default 50, 50, wait, hold on. What do you mean?

00:48:15.520 Feminists are not for 50, 50 when it comes to raising, when it comes, for example, if there's

00:48:20.140 a custody dispute, most feminists are not in favor of 50, 50. In fact, in Florida, a feminist

00:48:25.760 organization, I believe it's called now the national organization of women fought against

00:48:31.040 a bill that would have given men, uh, men and women, uh, presumptive 50, 50 custody of children

00:48:37.640 in the case of a divorce, for example. Yeah. Women fight against that. Feminists, sorry, excuse me,

00:48:43.300 feminists fight against that. Well, of course, I think there's always going to be an extreme

00:48:46.200 feminist and maybe I am one, right? I can certainly look at that based off of my background. Um,

00:48:51.640 all for women. No, I'm just kidding. But, uh, uh, yeah, no, I think in, isn't it in California?

00:48:57.400 It's like, uh, not 50, 50 custody, but 70, 30, as far as how much men pay in child support. I think

00:49:06.500 it's something like that. Like men only pay 30% of their entire income and women, it's generally like

00:49:12.880 far more than that. Well, I, child support and payments overwhelmingly go from men to women,

00:49:22.820 not from women to men. Correct. I've never heard this stat of when a woman has to pay child support,

00:49:28.740 she's paying 70% of her income. I've, I don't know where you're pulling this. This is like ridiculous.

00:49:34.300 It's care towards the child. So the woman is tended, tends to put 70% of her income towards that child

00:49:40.200 where the male is putting 30. Like they only legally have to put 30%. And they're legally obliged. The

00:49:46.420 woman is not obliged to put any income necessarily. Right. But she is putting 70% where the man is

00:49:52.160 legally obliged to put 30. Correct. And some men, when they get divorced from their, this has happened

00:49:58.640 to my friend. Hold on. Oh. Male man donated $100. This lady is completely insane. Number one,

00:50:06.940 she's wrong. Number two, no other woman is standing up against this claim. Yeah, I'm, I'm all alone

00:50:12.420 today. This is a silent confirmation bias. You see it when a group of women all say they are a 10

00:50:18.300 pure delusion. None of us said that. I don't think I'm a 10. You just, you just think we're

00:50:24.820 narcissists because you feel insecure when you look at us. I think he thinks he's a 10. Yeah.

00:50:29.600 No, that's funny. Um, okay, let's, okay, let's go back to your questions then. This is too intense

00:50:34.360 for you. So 50, 50, you're, you, you say you're against 50, 50, yet you're a feminist. Yes. Isn't

00:50:41.020 feminism supposedly about equality? Uh, yeah, I think it is equality. And once we, you know, as

00:50:46.980 women do have more equality, then it should be more 50, 50, but what do you mean by more equality?

00:50:54.260 Sure. Because all the law, you know, we have everything in America. Oh my gosh, of course. No,

00:50:58.220 I'm not saying that we're like living in Iran or something like that or India, right? Which are just

00:51:03.180 like so awful against women. But I still think that there are issues in this country against women.

00:51:08.820 Absolutely. And abortion being one of them, which I know is like a tough subject, but, uh, and I'm

00:51:15.160 totally pro-life pro-choice. It's up to you. I just think that as a woman, if I go into 161 donated

00:51:24.700 $100. Hi, Brian. Sorry about your neck and the people at the table being a pain in the neck.

00:51:31.160 How can women keep their body count low? If men don't want to wait beyond three dates for sex,

00:51:36.640 can women show their interest in another way? Yo, Al, thanks for the donation, man. Um,

00:51:42.260 appreciate the kind words. Uh, as far as the body count thing goes, um, I mean, my, you, I think you

00:51:48.340 can hook up with a girl can hook up with a guy relatively soon and still keep a low body count.

00:51:53.620 I mean, that comes down to vetting the guy, talking to the guy. Is he, is there, is he going to be

00:52:00.160 leaving the state soon? Are you traveling? Don't hook up when you're traveling. I mean, there's definitely

00:52:04.440 ways to keep a low body count, but thank you, man. Appreciate it. Continue with your point.

00:52:08.160 Uh, wait, I'm sorry. I already forgot what I was talking about. You're, um, telling us the rights

00:52:12.620 that we have or the rights that we need. I'm sorry. Yes, absolutely. No, I'm not saying, yeah,

00:52:18.100 I'm saying we do live in a first world country where, you know, we do have rights. I'm allowed to

00:52:22.400 vote. Um, can have, but I mean, it wasn't until like 1970 something that women could open up a credit

00:52:28.680 card without their husband's signature before that we couldn't. Right. So these are all brand

00:52:34.320 or not brand new, but relatively new, right? These things have happened in modern days. This was back

00:52:39.780 in the seventies. Our parents were alive in the seventies. You know, you know what else happened

00:52:44.000 in the seventies, the Vietnam war where men were exclusively drafted. Yeah. Pol Pot also was really

00:52:50.980 bad during that time. Well, yeah, there's, okay, sure. So yeah. What, I mean, you say that we don't have

00:52:58.180 equality yet between men and women, correct? To me, correct. In the U S correct. Okay. So name one

00:53:05.180 right that a man has that a woman doesn't, uh, again, healthcare. So right. If I, let's say I'm

00:53:10.940 pregnant, God forbid, I lose my baby and I go to Arkansas. Uh, I do not have access in Arkansas to

00:53:18.820 legal, legally go into a clinic and get an abortion, which, you know, would happen if my baby was

00:53:24.940 unfortunately dead inside of me. Right. Um, so those types of things, right? Let's say I was

00:53:30.640 bleeding out or something and it was from, uh, you know, something happened in the birth canal,

00:53:37.120 all that stuff. Like we don't get that. Right. That's scary to me. That's scary to my children

00:53:41.740 for my kids, you know? Okay. So I would want to prompt you to give me one example outside of

00:53:49.580 reproductive rights because men have no reproductive men have no reproductive rights in this country.

00:53:54.320 So it's not clear to me if that's an equality issue. Um, so besides and Roe v. Wade just pushed

00:54:02.820 it back to the States. So right. It's up there. Some States where you still have that, right? So

00:54:08.340 besides that, the only thing that occurs to me, one right that went, that men have that women don't

00:54:16.280 is in, in some States it is criminalized to be topless. I know that sounds silly, but that's

00:54:24.980 honestly the only, and it's not some States you can be topless as a woman. Um, that is honestly the

00:54:30.680 only right that I can think of that women, some women in some States do not have. Right. But so I

00:54:37.900 asked you again, what right do men have in this country that women do not? Uh, yeah. Based off

00:54:45.520 of laws. Yeah. It's mainly abortion. Right. But again, it, we've gotten these rights really recently.

00:54:52.520 Again, we couldn't own a home by ourselves until like 19 something. Right. I'd have to fact check

00:55:00.400 that. Exactly. Okay. So you are into fact checking. That's a good thing. Um, so yeah, that's just mainly

00:55:06.260 where I'm coming from. Yeah. I think, you know, abortion is a big topic for me because of my

00:55:12.300 work that I do. You know, a lot of children do become pregnant and I think legally they should

00:55:19.100 not have to carry that baby. So do any of the girls on the side of the table want to address that?

00:55:24.360 Uh, abortion? Yeah. Yes. Oh man. Not to stir the pot or anything. Yeah. Stir the pot. No. You can

00:55:33.360 stir the pot. Go ahead. Please stir the pot. Please do. No, I love hearing that. Yeah. I love hearing

00:55:37.740 from women like what they think. I am more so into the mic. I'm more so pro-life. Sure. Um, so I believe

00:55:46.300 there are steps that you could take before it comes to that. 100%. You know, like, uh, is it religious

00:55:52.500 due to your beliefs? I am religious. Okay. Um, but also personally, like, I don't think anyone should

00:55:57.740 have the right to decide if a baby who can't decide for itself whether they can leave. Would you, would

00:56:05.520 you keep a child that, you know, you got pregnant because you were assaulted? Um, that. Would you keep that?

00:56:12.800 Honestly, I think I would, but that percentage is very low in terms of who goes and gets an

00:56:20.880 abortion. Like statistically speaking through, but how many people don't those individuals

00:56:27.140 deserve access if they do not want that child? I think that could be a topic that, um, we

00:56:31.220 could talk about. Like there could be like, uh, uh, like for those people. Um, but it's

00:56:40.280 like once you let something, once you let something be so easily accessed, there is really hard

00:56:48.360 to draw a line of like when it stops or like when the cutoff is, you know, people are not

00:56:53.420 getting abortions for fun. I can promise you that. I know, no, no, no, that's not what

00:56:56.700 I'm saying at all. Uh, but I'm just saying economically, it's really economically. Let's

00:57:03.400 say you couldn't take care of it. You don't have the family, you don't have the foundation

00:57:07.060 and that you're now in a state that abortions are not available to you. You would still keep

00:57:12.280 that child even if it ends up with you two on the street? First of all, I wouldn't. You're

00:57:18.740 disproportionately putting that child at a disadvantage. No, personally, first of all, I wouldn't have

00:57:23.020 a child if I'm not able to, uh, you didn't get a choice in the matter. You got pregnant due

00:57:27.320 to assault. I think, I mean, she spoke about certain steps that you adopted. I would be down

00:57:32.440 to adopt. Actually, I really do want to adopt. It's actually really hard to adopt. There are a lot

00:57:37.180 of kids in foster homes who just never end up getting adopted because there's just so many of

00:57:41.300 them. There are, but I think there's also a lot of programs that are working towards helping these

00:57:46.160 children. But they're not quite there yet. So as of now, all I'm saying is I think people should

00:57:52.040 not resort to abortion as a plan A. Okay. And there's just steps. I would agree. That's what

00:57:59.460 I'm saying. I understand what you're saying. Yeah, for sure. Okay. Kyria, right? How do you say

00:58:04.100 your name? Kyria. Kyria. You're Christian. Yes. Do you have thoughts on this? Yes. So I have two

00:58:10.860 points. On the first point, the statistics of women who get abortions after a sexual assault are super

00:58:17.120 low. And honestly, personally, if I wasn't financially stable myself, I wouldn't be having

00:58:24.100 sex. And I personally would never let a man who wasn't financially stable fuck me. Oh, I'm sorry.

00:58:30.160 I'm sorry. I didn't know. You know, I wouldn't do that. So like there are ways to prevent it is what

00:58:36.480 I'm saying. Like if you know that you're not supposed to have, you're not in a place where you can have a

00:58:41.680 child and bring a child into a stable environment, then there are ways to avoid that. There are so many

00:58:46.820 ways to avoid that. Like the pill itself is revolutionary. I don't take it, but I'm pretty

00:58:51.860 sure it is. Can I ask you a question? Yeah. What about married couples who are not financially

00:58:57.300 stable? Should they just stop having sex? You can use a condom. Condoms aren't 100%

00:59:03.020 though. They break. Condoms break. Yeah, but there's both. You can also track your cycle. There's only one

00:59:07.940 week where you can fertilize it. There's no method. That's 100%. There's not a single method of birth

00:59:11.700 control. That's 100%. So you can try them all. If you really, really, honestly don't want to have a

00:59:16.800 kid. You could try them all. You can try them all, but things happen. I just think once you're

00:59:20.880 actually engaging that activity with someone, you're automatically knowing what could happen.

00:59:25.580 So you should be prepared. It's like you're doing something. I don't think sex with a spouse

00:59:29.780 should come with the punishment of a child that you can't take care of. Okay, but why do you think a

00:59:34.300 child is a punishment? Children aren't punishments, you know? Because if you're not ready for a kid,

00:59:38.620 it can be seen as a punishment to a lot of people who just, they're not financially able,

00:59:42.840 emotionally able, or they just don't want to put their body through that. Yeah, but as an adult or

00:59:49.080 as a married couple, you're engaging in a certain activity to instantly gratify you and just being

00:59:57.020 completely ignorant of the consequences. And there are ways to go about it. There are many different

01:00:02.100 ways to not get pregnant. And not all of them are 100%, though, is what I'm saying. Okay, so we're just

01:00:08.060 not having sex. Not having sex is for sure 100%. Exactly. So you know what I mean? Even if I was

01:00:14.520 in a marriage. In a marriage, yeah. If you weren't ready to have a kid, you would just put off having,

01:00:18.000 you would just tell your husband, no, we can't have, we can't have sex right now. Because we're

01:00:21.620 not in a place. If we weren't ready. Like financially ready. If you're not, if you were in a place where

01:00:25.860 you and your husband, you know, you, you, somebody got laid off. Somebody was sick. Bills were coming in.

01:00:31.260 You guys are both in debt. You obviously can't take care of a kid at that point. You don't want to put

01:00:35.040 yourself through that. Would you just stop having sex with your spouse? Okay, so I'm 19, right? I

01:00:40.660 want to get married. I want to get married early. I want to have kids early. But with that being said,

01:00:46.740 because I want those things, and because I have that teleology already in place in my mind,

01:00:52.100 I don't have any debt. I'm paying school out of pocket right now. The person that I, my future

01:00:55.780 husband, hopefully he won't have debt. If he does, I will help him. I personally have a good job right

01:01:00.380 now. And hopefully he does too. So there's certain steps that I would never make myself get into a

01:01:04.980 position that bad and marry into that position or bring a child into that position. There's

01:01:09.800 certain steps that you could take now. I'm always planning for the future. Well, that's good

01:01:12.920 for you, but there are married couples who are financially well off. I know, but you ask me

01:01:15.420 personally. You know what I mean? Like, what if somebody gets cancer? What if somebody's sick?

01:01:18.520 What if somebody, like the pandemic? Okay, if you get cancer, you can't carry a baby. Okay, well,

01:01:22.500 what if somebody's sick? How sick are we talking about? You're asking a lot of what ifs,

01:01:25.400 which is in catering to her, which was your original question. Do you come from a place of,

01:01:29.400 personally view of privilege? Cause you said it, um, when it talks about financial stability,

01:01:35.620 because you said you have set yourself up in a specific manner and are able to follow it thoroughly

01:01:40.040 and wouldn't deviate from that. There's people that don't have that same, if it is financial or you

01:01:46.880 have a security belt that don't have, I don't have a, I don't, I mean, I do, I, you know, I'm an

01:01:51.740 emergency fund and all of that, but are you asking if I grew up? Like parents and things that you,

01:01:57.520 a fallback plan? Cause there's some individuals that end up pregnant that don't have that same.

01:02:01.780 Yeah, no, I've been living alone since I was 17. I don't have a fallback plan.

01:02:04.960 Kudos to you. Thank you. And no, I didn't grow up in privilege either. It's just, you know,

01:02:10.320 I, I'm a friends with a lot of older people and I like to learn from their mistakes.

01:02:14.080 Totally. You know what I mean? So whatever they say, don't do, I don't do. If that, so everything is

01:02:19.860 set up because I really want a husband and I really want a family. So I'll make sure that it gets

01:02:24.780 there, but that's me personally. And I know a lot, not a lot of women want children and I'm not

01:02:28.880 saying you have to have children, but there are ways to not have children. So that's good for you

01:02:34.720 that you're stable, but do you think your beliefs should affect whether or not another woman has

01:02:38.300 the right to choose? That's why we're just saying it's our belief. Yeah, it is our belief. A lot of

01:02:43.740 people who believe that will like lobby for and support anti-abortion laws. So where would you stand

01:02:49.220 there? I don't think, I still don't think that it's okay for you to decide to kill a life because

01:02:56.360 if you, have you seen a 15 week fetus? Have you seen it? I don't care to, no. Well, exactly. So

01:03:02.620 like, if you don't care to know, then that's what it is, but it's still a baby. And I mean,

01:03:05.300 I definitely have, but I'm saying it's, it's, you know, it's not a baby and that's just my belief.

01:03:09.700 So it looks exactly like a baby. It looks like an actual baby you can carry, but you don't think

01:03:14.500 it's a baby is what I'm hearing. Like, I don't, it definitely can survive out of the womb. Okay.

01:03:19.940 It can't survive out of, yeah, but it's still your child. So you would, you would vote against

01:03:25.100 other women having the right to choose because of your personal beliefs and your situation.

01:03:28.800 But she chose to have sex. But she did not choose to get pregnant. And yes, it's always a risk,

01:03:33.800 but I'm saying what if somebody is taking all the precautions, taking all the birth control,

01:03:37.220 they possibly can. It's like a 99.9%. So when that happens, then we can have this discussion,

01:03:41.240 I think. Yeah. Okay. But do you personally taking birth control and that happens? That's not a lot

01:03:47.300 of people, but if there's a lot in place to stop them from doing so, why should we wait until it

01:03:51.600 comes to that? Okay. But on, if we're, you're, you're talking about, you know, the 0.001% chance

01:03:58.320 that it happens if you take all the precautions, right? Like that's what you're asking. Do you

01:04:02.960 honestly, do you honestly really think I'm not, I'm not shitting on women right now. I'm not,

01:04:07.580 but do you honestly really think that all these, like all these women are taking every single one

01:04:11.360 of those precautions or are responsible enough to take all of them? No, I don't think they're all

01:04:14.220 taking precautions, but I don't think it matters because it's her right to choose. At the end of

01:04:18.980 the day, it's her body. If she doesn't want to gestate a baby and damage her entire pelvic floor

01:04:23.000 delivering said baby, she shouldn't have to. But then why did she choose to have sex knowing

01:04:28.480 the consequences? Because humans were built to piss and shit and have sex.

01:04:31.320 They were made to procreate actually. They were made to procreate. We were also humans

01:04:38.880 and dolphins are the only two mammals who have sex for recreation. Dolphins. Dolphins. Yes.

01:04:44.920 Dolphins. Dolphins have sex for recreation. We should know what we should talk about. We

01:04:47.800 should talk about dolphin mating. Let's talk about it. Welcome to the whatever podcast where

01:04:53.540 we discuss the mating rituals of aquatic animals. All right. Let's move it on. Let's move it on

01:04:59.640 from this. Let's keep talking. Well, I'm going to bring it back to the 50-50 feminist thing.

01:05:05.960 Oh, sure. So I wanted a bit of more clarity on that. So you're against 50-50 relationships,

01:05:13.040 but consider yourself to be a feminist. Yes. I'm a radical feminist, meaning that I think men

01:05:23.760 should do everything for me in life and I shouldn't have to lift a finger. I'm totally messing with you.

01:05:30.360 What the fuck? I bet all your viewers are going to believe that. Oh my God. I'm just kidding.

01:05:36.240 No, there's some truth there, right? Yeah, absolutely. No, I definitely, I can tell you this.

01:05:40.980 Listen, I've gotten got by a man before. I've had, yeah, I paid this guy's rent for a long time,

01:05:46.580 right? What a legend. Exactly. And then after that, you're like, yeah, I'm never doing that again.

01:05:51.220 So if any man wants access to me, like I'm not going to pay his rent. I'm not going to do that

01:05:55.560 shit. I would never ask someone to pay my rent. But initially, I think if I recall what you said,

01:06:00.920 you said something along the lines of, well, I'm doing all these sexual things for the guy.

01:06:05.780 Yes. Ergo.

01:06:08.500 No, okay.

01:06:09.280 Ergo, he should pay everything.

01:06:11.400 I understand. I think I meant that more in like a joking way. Like BJ, they don't call

01:06:16.180 it a job for nothing, right? Sure.

01:06:18.000 But yes, but I can, I do know that, you know, a lot of women during sexual intercourse don't

01:06:25.660 actually come, right? So already here, we're, we're, we're not having as much fun.

01:06:32.880 You're definitely a government employee.

01:06:35.920 They should transfer you to the USPS. You're a bucket of bad ideas. God luck with your future.

01:06:46.800 Daddy government, cat shelters, and Pfizer are cheering you on.

01:06:50.940 Your response to Marquavius.

01:06:52.100 Marquavius. Hi, Marquavius. I love you. Um, no, I'm not, I'm not a fed. Um, I am a government

01:06:57.940 employee. Uh, yeah, you try doing the work that I do, and then we can talk about it. Love you.

01:07:05.000 Okay. Uh, so you were saying.

01:07:07.500 Oh, I'm sorry. I keep coming back. I don't even know what I'm talking about.

01:07:10.280 Yeah, the 50-50.

01:07:12.340 Yeah, no. Uh, okay. So I should, I'm, I'm going to base this off of my own familial, uh,

01:07:18.240 interactions. Okay. So growing up, my mom not only had a full-time job, but she also raised that,

01:07:24.400 raised my brother and I, I have an older brother and did everything in between. My father went to

01:07:30.220 work and worked on his cars, you know? And if it was like, Oh, you know, can you help with the kids

01:07:35.560 here? No. In fact, my dad went to pick me up in kindergarten. They wouldn't let him take us home

01:07:41.980 because they didn't believe he was our father because he had never, they like never saw him

01:07:45.960 so much. Right. So that's what complexion was a bit different. Uh, well, he kind of does look

01:07:50.840 Middle Eastern. I won't lie. Okay. But, uh, yeah, it was, it was different. He even had to like show

01:07:56.540 his ID and everything. It was really funny, but see, that's more where I'm coming from. Whereas,

01:08:02.040 you know, I felt like my mom did absolutely everything growing up and my father was just kind

01:08:07.000 there to be like, yeah, cool. I'm down with that. Was your mother the breadwinner? Uh, technically

01:08:13.080 my father made more, but probably only like 50 K difference, 50 K difference a year, a year.

01:08:21.120 Correct. That's a pretty substantial. How much? Okay. So how much, how much was he making? How much

01:08:27.600 was she making? I would say he was probably making two 50 and my mom was probably making two

01:08:33.160 two 50, 200. Okay. Well, I mean that. Yeah. It's pretty high income for both of them. Exactly.

01:08:38.860 Once you get up there. Um, was he working more than she was? Uh, well, he technically had longer

01:08:45.180 hours, but again, I think that was to avoid the kids cause he would wake up and leave the house at

01:08:50.800 seven and we couldn't home, wouldn't come home to like seven or eight. Yeah. So, but so, okay.

01:08:57.140 Anonymous donated $100. She was just a diversity hire. Okay. We're not getting paid to

01:09:03.140 be here. We're not, this is for you. No, I think he's talking about your job. Um, okay.

01:09:09.700 So, uh, but your dad was working more than your mother, correct? More hours. More. I mean,

01:09:17.340 I, I don't know. This was like nineties fun. They were at the golf course, you know, my mom

01:09:24.400 was like in biotech and my dad was in sales. So it was very different. But you said he would

01:09:28.900 leave home at 7am. Right. I mean, in between he'd go to the gym in the morning, then he'd

01:09:34.320 go to work, then he'd go to lunch. Then after he'd go to golf, you know, I mean, it wasn't

01:09:38.620 like he was working 24 seven. Did, did he work more than your mom? I would say no. You. Okay.

01:09:46.620 I'm getting a little conflicting information. My mom worked eight hours a day. My dad worked

01:09:49.920 eight hours a day, but my mom came home and took care of us, which she is not compensated

01:09:56.020 for. Okay. So yeah. Well, they were, you had a dual income household, but I would say, I

01:10:02.840 mean, he was out earning your mom. So, I mean, there is an argument there for, hold on.

01:10:10.000 Martin donated $100. Thank you. Mark. I'm a multimillionaire with businesses across the Southeast,

01:10:15.920 hundreds of employees, post lady. What do you do that? I couldn't do drunk as hell blindfolded.

01:10:22.560 Like a woman. Come on. Watch child pornography for eight hours a day. Yeah. That's what I

01:10:27.660 have to do, honey. Yeah. Can you avoid using like, it's just like, oh, geez. Okay. Um,

01:10:35.100 bro. Okay. So it would seem to me that male man donated $100. What a sad time we live in.

01:10:49.140 People are literally fighting for the right to kill their babies just so they can run the

01:10:53.460 streets and take raw meat with zero consequences. Also, they don't want 50 50. Feminism isn't

01:11:00.360 about equality. It's about superiority. I would like to be superior. Thank you. No, I'm just

01:11:07.600 kidding. It's so funny listening to them cry. And a lot of these laws that are in place were

01:11:13.020 put in place by men. So what, I mean, there's actually more women who are, if you're talking

01:11:18.760 about the pro-life stuff, there's more women who are pro-life than, of course, no, I agree

01:11:24.940 with that. So it's not like a man thing. Right. But I mean, not a lot of women have been making

01:11:31.460 laws for too long. Right. We didn't have the right to do that. Like the past, like 50 plus

01:11:37.160 years, the past 50 plus years. Probably. Yeah. Women have been, when did we have like the first

01:11:45.320 Congresswoman? Yeah. That's a good question. Or the first, we haven't had a female president

01:11:51.820 yet. We have a vice president, which is nice, but we just, we haven't hold, we haven't held

01:11:58.060 those seats. Right. Hold on. Hide that. Tipoki Smith donated $100. She likes her job. Disgusting.

01:12:08.080 Actually, they tend to hire women more than men. So less liability. Okay. So can you please

01:12:17.420 clarify, you've said you don't believe in 50, 50 yet you're a feminist? Yes.

01:12:25.940 Because of how I was raised again, just, I saw my mom do so much more. I mean, according

01:12:29.500 to you, so your assessment of it, it wasn't a 50, 50. Correct. And that's what I, okay.

01:12:34.980 Oh, I'm sorry. I apologize. I should speak better, speak more better. I saw that it wasn't

01:12:42.200 50, 50 in my household. Yes. I would want 50, 50 when I'm dating you, I would want you

01:12:48.800 to, you know, provide. I want to see if you're a good provider. Why? Because isn't that, I

01:12:56.220 mean, what men want to be? I mean, most like, look at Andrew Tate. Isn't this guy like, you

01:13:03.580 know? Where are we? I know. Wait, you just went back on that now and saying that if you

01:13:09.960 are in a relationship, you do want 50, 50? So you said like when you're in a relationship

01:13:14.200 short, get married, you want it to be 50, 50. Yes. However, during the initial courtship

01:13:20.140 process, you want the guy to pay for everything. Not necessarily pay for everything, but potentially

01:13:26.080 do a little bit more. Yeah. How so? Yeah. So I mean, okay. So the last guy I dated was a

01:13:32.260 little like contentious because I only took him on a couple of dates and we had probably

01:13:38.020 been dating for six months. And out of those six months, I think I took him out maybe two

01:13:42.200 or three times. He was very upset by that. He thought that like as many times as he took

01:13:47.120 me out, I should take him out. I guess I'm just old school. I don't believe that. I think

01:13:51.900 a man should be taking the woman out more. So you want equality only when it benefits you?

01:13:58.420 Yes. I'm just kidding. But it's like, how do you reconcile believing in feminism, believing

01:14:05.580 in gender equality, but saying that you want the guy to take care of it? You want the guy

01:14:14.620 to adhere to his traditional gender roles during the initial courtship. That doesn't make sense

01:14:19.640 to me. Yeah. No, I think that's what I believe. I think gender norms in the beginning make sense.

01:14:24.680 But yeah, as you get to know each other, they go away. Right. Okay. So traditional gender

01:14:28.620 roles, when it benefits you and then those disperse when they don't benefit you.

01:14:36.280 Okay. Let me be a little more careful with how I'm saying things. So in the beginning,

01:14:43.920 I think it's up to a man to woo a woman, right? He should be the one that takes her out. He should

01:14:50.260 be the one that wants to do all these things for her. Right. That's not very feminist of

01:14:55.040 you, but okay. Yeah. And I respect that. Right. But again, feminism is a spectrum, right? And

01:14:59.680 we're all in certain places in the spectrum. I disagree. I think equality is black and white.

01:15:06.040 There is no feminism. Isn't well, I mean, I don't, I personally don't think feminism is

01:15:11.220 an equality movement, but that's the more generate, like that's how some people will describe feminism

01:15:18.380 is it's about equality. But through the movement, we have gotten equality. We have the right to vote

01:15:23.540 now, which we didn't get until like what, 1915, 16, something like that. Uh, we couldn't, you know,

01:15:31.700 buy our own, or excuse me, take out our own credit cards without a man's signature until like

01:15:36.800 the 1970s. Right. I would have to fact check that. Yeah. And you can, you absolutely can.

01:15:41.280 Would you reiterate your view on feminism? What's that? Would you reiterate your view

01:15:44.940 on feminism and how your generous view you give it? Sure. So feminism, the most generous definition

01:15:54.440 I would give it is it's a woman's advocacy movement. That's the most generous definition

01:15:59.780 I would give it. However, my view of it, what it actually is, is it is a women's advocacy

01:16:09.460 movement. However, the rhetoric and the ideology is steeped in man-hating and conspiracy. Hold

01:16:19.600 on.

01:16:20.920 Typical government stuff. Everything they say never makes sense.

01:16:24.700 Yeah. So that's my view of feminism. Sure. Women not advocate for themselves. I didn't

01:16:32.360 say that there's nothing wrong with women's advocacy. However, but to portray feminism as

01:16:37.980 an equality movement, hold on to portray feminism or to suggest that feminism is a movement about

01:16:43.540 equality is on its fit. It's just wrong. There's nothing wrong with women's advocacy, women's

01:16:49.640 rights. That's great. However, feminism has gone way beyond that. And throughout its entire

01:16:56.380 history has quite frankly, been a man-hating ideology.

01:17:00.300 So you're saying we can support one side without bringing down the other?

01:17:03.920 Well, that's called egalitarianism. And I consider myself an egalitarian.

01:17:09.040 So I can agree that it's derailed. I don't think that its original root was to hate on men

01:17:15.600 directly. Well, I mean, its original root was also deeply racist. I would agree with

01:17:20.080 you there. I would agree with you there. Absolutely. But it's always been a man-hating

01:17:24.420 ideology. Well, here's why. No, I think that's changed recently. Yeah. You think it's, that's

01:17:31.720 recent? The core... I think it is more, yeah, I think it is more recent. Well, the core tenet

01:17:36.480 of feminism is this conspiracy theory called the patriarchy theory, which posits, I mean,

01:17:42.920 she's laughing. It's not a conspiracy. It is a conspiracy theory. You're saying that men

01:17:48.720 as a class throughout all history oppressed women as a class throughout all history. That's

01:17:53.920 not true. Quite literally, we were erased from history. We weren't allowed to do jobs that

01:17:58.500 men were doing. We weren't allowed to become doctors until like the late 1800s, you know?

01:18:04.580 I don't see, that's not really related to patriarchy theory, but... Correct, but also... Yeah, go

01:18:10.380 ahead. Not entirely. I don't think women were completely erased from history. I think when

01:18:15.400 it valued the education system for women to be put in a place of a submissive nature, then

01:18:21.860 it was taught and it was educated. Women got us to the moon. Okay. Yeah. You're talking about

01:18:32.580 that lady who did like the whole stack of code. That was Jack Black's mom. Really? Yeah. Isn't

01:18:37.260 that crazy? Isn't that crazy? I mean, I just reject outright that women were oppressed and

01:18:44.260 men were the oppressor. I reject it. I believe... There's historical evidence that that's happened

01:18:50.700 due to religion being one of the predominant factors of how we viewed society. Men have a divine

01:18:56.240 right over women. I've never heard that. That happened in like medieval times, but yes.

01:19:02.300 You've never seen... King... Have you not heard of King Henry VIII? And he went to the Catholic

01:19:07.920 church... I've seen the Tudors. I have no idea. And he went to the Catholic church and said,

01:19:11.540 I don't see how the fuck that... I don't see how the fuck that... Yeah. The Tudors is a great

01:19:15.020 show, but I have no idea how that's... It is a great show. You said a bad word.

01:19:18.240 Related. Yeah.

01:19:21.180 Go ahead. Are you asking me to continue? Yeah, you were asking me something.

01:19:24.120 Well, just if you date back far enough that you see that women were put in a place to be very

01:19:29.900 submissive. So their role was to be mothers and caretakers. They were not given the opportunity

01:19:35.540 or even considered intelligent enough or able enough to do chores outside of that.

01:19:42.780 Well, I reject that, but I mean, couldn't... First off, there's a few considerations biologically

01:19:49.580 that you have to think of. First off, there's certain sanitary realities, and then there's also

01:19:54.760 birth control. So... And, you know, we have such conveniences that have come about in the past

01:20:03.500 hundred years. Life was incredibly difficult hundreds, two hundreds of years ago. So, I mean,

01:20:09.900 there is a certain component of, you know, and obviously the risk of death during pregnancy,

01:20:15.580 if there was an expectation to continue the human race and women were the ones that gave birth,

01:20:22.520 and if there was a high probability that you could die during childbirth, wouldn't it almost

01:20:29.460 make sense to invest, for example, educational opportunities in men who don't have that additional

01:20:36.360 risk of death during childbirth?

01:20:38.980 And a lot of women my age, like in their 30s, actually sometimes don't get hired because we're

01:20:44.580 technically in an age where we will have kids, and they don't want to have to pay for us to go

01:20:48.820 and have kids, right? Because usually, if you're...

01:20:51.800 Now, I acknowledge that maybe some women don't want to have kids. However, historically, there were

01:20:58.940 certain gender expectations, and, you know, things were very different.

01:21:03.840 Women, that's biological.

01:21:04.740 Yeah, it's biological.

01:21:06.380 But when we say, okay, we want a man to provide, which is what they have been doing for thousands

01:21:11.140 of years, all of a sudden, like, that's not okay, right?

01:21:14.840 But if you're expecting that from a man, shouldn't he expect you to act as the traditional form of

01:21:20.240 woman?

01:21:20.400 Totally, yeah.

01:21:21.240 So, okay, but I...

01:21:22.060 So you're traditional in your behavior?

01:21:24.620 I have traditional behaviors, yes. I would say so.

01:21:28.220 Really?

01:21:28.980 Yeah. You can talk to any of my exes if you want.

01:21:32.340 What are your traditional behaviors?

01:21:34.980 I like to cook. Cooking. Woo-hoo! Feminism. No, I'm just kidding. Yeah, I like to cook.

01:21:42.560 I actually have to get going. So, sorry, this isn't going to be as much fun anymore. Everyone's

01:21:47.600 loving me. Yeah, they love me. Okay, I have to get going. But, yeah, this was actually really

01:21:54.420 fun. I think we should sit down and have more conversations about feminism, but I think that

01:21:58.900 might be the only... I might be the only one who wants that.

01:22:01.700 It's a bit early. You sure?

01:22:04.240 Yeah, I do have to go. I have a job tomorrow doing stuff for the government.

01:22:09.040 Okay, so before you leave, I guess, and I will touch back because you were asking me

01:22:16.960 a question, so I'll touch back on that. I just, again, you've said that you believe

01:22:22.520 in 50-50, yet... Or sorry, excuse me, you don't believe in 50-50, yet you describe yourself

01:22:29.580 as a feminist. No, I do believe in 50-50, but not in the beginning. Right, that's what

01:22:35.280 I mean. Yes. Mm-hmm. Okay. So, would you take an issue with a guy wanting to split the

01:22:40.280 bill on a first date? I would, yes.

01:22:44.180 I wouldn't. Yeah. I would not. I would not.

01:22:46.700 But we're all different, see? But it, I just, I have difficulty reconciling your, I assume

01:22:53.060 you believe in gender equality, right? Yeah, of course. And feminism, that's the supposed

01:22:58.400 component to feminism. Men get paid more.

01:23:00.360 Yeah. It's also just romantic for a guy to woo a woman. Yeah, to woo a woman.

01:23:05.780 Yeah. I will say, there's often men that complain about women being in their highly

01:23:10.660 masculine energy, right? Sure. And they want them to be more feminine, so they, if you do

01:23:16.240 take up those traditional roles, you may allow that partner you're trying to pursue to lean

01:23:21.520 into that feminine energy a bit more, where if you don't, she may feel the need to continue

01:23:26.500 to present more masculine. And that's okay if she wants to present in that masculine

01:23:30.360 nature. But if you are looking for a feminine woman, you should take up those roles and give

01:23:36.400 her that space of safety. Exactly. See, she explained that far better than I ever could

01:23:41.380 have. That's why I tried to get on the podcast. Not saying that you didn't, but that's one

01:23:44.360 of the reasons I wanted to come on the podcast. Okay, so I have a question for you. So you

01:23:49.760 mentioned, I think we had spoke before the show, you said you're harsh on men. What do

01:23:53.700 you mean by that? I am harsh on men. I think, again, just my background, you know, I think

01:23:57.480 when you're just watching men do really bad things to children all day, it tends to, yeah,

01:24:03.520 it tends to, and okay, if you want to come and do a day at my job, you absolutely can.

01:24:08.300 I'm good. Yeah, exactly. That's what I thought. Okay, ladies, you guys are beautiful and wonderful

01:24:13.220 and I love you all. I'm sure I will. Okay, bye guys.

01:24:16.060 To Dorothy Smith donated $100. She's so annoying. I'd delete myself if I was married to her.

01:24:23.660 All right, that's Frank Castle. All right, what's the number on that microphone?

01:24:28.420 It's a number seven. Does that mean we're going out on a date? Uh-oh. You and I?

01:24:36.480 You're going to have to pay for the date and it's going to happen. That's fine. I'll pay

01:24:45.600 for this date. I just won't be feminine. Yeah. Lovely. Yeah. All right. It's a date. It's

01:24:50.820 a plan. Okay, bye guys. All right, thank you for coming. Can I have you put the microphone

01:24:56.320 on the ground, please? All right, bye guys. Have a wonderful night. Bye. It was nice meeting you.

01:25:04.780 Did you enjoy your roller coaster? Yeah, that was a heated, okay. So.

01:25:12.740 Martin donated $100. Let's hear more scholarly ideologies from Bella Thorne's special needs

01:25:31.000 Hispanic second cousin. The one with bad hair and worse ideas. Tell us more eyelashes. You're

01:25:38.160 coated heavily in the devil's war paint. I bet you're even more stunning underneath.

01:25:44.740 That's not very nice.

01:25:49.080 That's it? That's all you got for Marquavius?

01:25:52.140 No, that's not very nice. You should be nice.

01:25:54.920 Okay. All right. Oh, shit. I lost some of the recent events. Oh, well. Okay, so. I'll do a

01:26:01.940 couple. We'll hold off on the super chats. Oh, fuck. Bro, she's, oh, I got to leave

01:26:06.620 at 930. Okay, whatever. Consensus on her? I think she's great. I play the fifth. Come

01:26:15.180 on. Yeah, me too. Yeah. Not touching that with a 10-foot pole. She's fun. Avery? I think

01:26:23.240 it made the stream a little more interesting. For sure. She's a fireball. Yeah. Exactly.

01:26:29.940 Is that not fun? What's the, I don't think it's fireball. What's the word? Fire, I don't

01:26:34.620 know. Firecracker. Firecracker. She's exactly what you need on a podcast, though.

01:26:38.520 Wishing somebody to challenge you. Yeah. She should have stayed longer. I agree. All

01:26:46.060 right, guys. I'm going to take it off. I'm going to take it off members only for a little

01:26:49.700 bit here, guys. Okay, so. Wow. It got very heated almost immediately. Eric, can we, I'm

01:26:59.840 going to ask the girls a question? So, try to bring a little levity back to the show.

01:27:07.180 Would you date the following man? Eric, can you pull up the Instagram? Oh, before you

01:27:12.580 pull it up, scroll down so you don't see the bio on the guy's Instagram. Did I, did I pull

01:27:20.760 it up? I think I did. Yeah. Scroll down so you don't see the bio. Okay, so. Would you date

01:27:27.700 this guy? Scroll, scroll down, Eric? No. I've already dated somebody who looks just like

01:27:37.760 that, actually. Yeah, he looks familiar. Yeah. Keep scrolling. Keep, keep going down. Yeah,

01:27:42.380 I want to see more. No. Keep going down. Oh, this isn't getting better. Aw. Wait, I like

01:27:46.420 the ears photo. Yeah, the ears is cute. No. All right. Keep going. And he's a gamer. Bonus

01:27:53.800 points. That's what, I kind of like the silly faces. He doesn't take himself, himself too

01:27:57.660 seriously. So, his name's Zach. Okay. Uh, he's like, he's like Chad World of Warcraft

01:28:07.140 gamer. Okay. Nice. Yeah. Uh, would you guys date him? I actually would. Yeah. I like nerdy

01:28:14.040 guys. Yeah. He's in Texas. Okay. I can get you guys linked up if you're down. I'm actually

01:28:19.400 down. Oh, yeah. Let's go. I need to try something new. Eric, can you lower it a little bit while

01:28:30.440 I play this? Um, so, okay, Avery. Oh, my God. You would, you would date Zach? Yeah. What

01:28:36.280 about you? Would you date Zach? No, thank you. No go? No, thank you. Sure. I mean, I think

01:28:41.740 it's unfair to do that based on his appearance only. But yeah, like I said, I've literally dated

01:28:46.500 somebody who looked exactly like him already. Okay. So, yeah. What about you? No. Not your type?

01:28:52.760 No. He looks like a sweet guy, but not my type. Yeah, not based on the looks, but, um, I'm not a

01:28:59.000 big fan of gamers, so that's like a no-go for me. Sure. No. Mm-hmm. I'd probably say no. Okay. All

01:29:06.880 right. So, Eric, can you just pull, scroll up a little bit so we see who it is? Oh, my God. Uh,

01:29:13.800 this is Zach. He's, his name's Asmongold. Uh, very popular Twitch streamer. Probably

01:29:19.420 one of the top Twitch streamers. Uh, owner of OTK. He's probably making, like, millions

01:29:24.280 of dollars a year. Does that change anything for any of you? No. No. No. No. Makes

01:29:29.360 me less likely to want to date him, actually. Why is that? I don't know. I like somebody

01:29:34.020 with humble beginnings. You want someone, a broke guy? No, not broke. Not broke, but

01:29:38.940 maybe not a millionaire. Okay. I don't think I could see myself with a millionaire. Would

01:29:43.460 you take care of your partner? I'm just curious. I currently do. Oh, okay. I like, I like

01:29:47.960 that. Um, I've been financially abused before, so I like the situation I'm in where I pay the

01:29:53.140 rent and I pay for everything, and he's offered to help, and I told him no, because I like that

01:29:58.300 I have some control for once in my life. You like to pay for the rent? I do. Okay. Would you say

01:30:03.660 you're more masculine? No. Okay. All right. Okay. Um, man. I'm still kind of overwhelmed

01:30:15.500 by the girl over there. Okay. Jesus Christ. All right. Um, here, let's do this. By the

01:30:23.500 way, guys, just to, oh, Eric, can you pull up the Twitch? I need to shout out the Twitch

01:30:26.800 homies. All right. Yo, guys, go to twitch.tv slash whatever. Open up another tab. Go give

01:30:32.860 us a follow. If you have a prime sub, drop us a prime sub, twitch.tv slash whatever.

01:30:37.320 If you have Amazon prime, you link it to your Twitch. It's a quick, free, easy way to support

01:30:43.000 the show. Oh my God. You guys are on fire. Look at all these people following. Thank you

01:30:47.480 guys. Uh, yeah. You link it to your, yo, Bert, thank you for the gifted. Yeah. You basically

01:30:52.720 you lit you, uh, oh my God. Sorry. Getting tongue tied. The link is in the description. Uh,

01:30:58.000 otherwise twitch.tv slash whatever you link your prime Amazon prime to your Twitch. It's

01:31:02.620 free. Uh, yo lost pod. Thank you for the prime, man. Appreciate it. Thank you guys so much,

01:31:07.400 man. Uh, nebulas. Thank you for the prime, the prime. Uh, okay. So by the way, I think

01:31:13.340 there are, how many people are watching? Oh my God. There are 6,000 of you. The chat is on

01:31:18.480 fire. Thank you guys so much. Uh, really appreciate it. Um, and yeah, just a reminder again, uh, TTS

01:31:25.740 is stream labs only. Uh, sweet. Let me get a couple of the super chats here, guys. Okay.

01:31:31.360 We have this one came through Mr. Cappadocia. Hey, thank you for the 50. She knows women are

01:31:38.760 significantly less likely to be prosecuted for it. However, she brought up air. Can you

01:31:43.800 hide the Twitch overlay really quick? Uh, it's, uh, the Twitch alerts. Yeah. Just hide that

01:31:48.700 momentarily. Uh, however, she brought up the discussion to shame him into submission. Boys

01:31:54.380 as young as 13 have had to pay women child support. Yep. That's definitely true. Um,

01:31:59.380 sorry, I didn't read these, uh, while she was still here. She said she could stay until

01:32:03.500 like nine 30, but then she dipped an hour earlier. So speedy, the unsilent. Thank you

01:32:08.840 for the 50 man saying it's not a life is a lie. It's a coping mechanism to justify your actions.

01:32:12.960 When you hook up, you are taking responsibility for what happens after lack of accountability.

01:32:18.700 Word? Word? Okay. Thank you, man. Richard Contini Jr. Thank you, man. Not only is the

01:32:26.060 fed a liar, but she has daddy issues too. She, she's definitely not worth having on a second

01:32:30.700 time. Can't stand a liar. Okay. Uh, Nobunaga. Thank you for the hundred man. Red haired girl

01:32:36.520 should understand when she says the child can't actually, you know what you read this. Go ahead.

01:32:42.000 I don't have my glasses on. Um, red haired girl should understand when she says the child can't

01:32:49.900 live on their own inside the womb. Would it be okay to do to, to do post abortions on adolescent

01:32:56.600 children then? Also people have been raising kids since the stone ages. So the money issue is null and

01:33:01.900 void. Well, it's not really the stone ages anymore. No, is it? Oh, fire. Okay. Um, Eric, can you show,

01:33:09.260 uh, the Twitch overlay again here? Thank you guys so much for the, uh, super chats guys. If you want

01:33:14.000 get your, uh, super chats in $50 and up and then instant TTS a hundred and up everything else. It's,

01:33:20.400 uh, stream labs only though for the TTS. Thank you guys. All right. We have, yo, we got to swap this

01:33:24.840 chair. Can you take her chair? Yeah, it's squeaking. So, uh, get rid of that chair.

01:33:31.900 All right. Sorry guys. We're doing little musical chairs here. All right. So Stifler asked the

01:33:39.620 ladies to rate their looks on a scale of one to 10. Okay. We're going to start over here. Go ahead.

01:33:44.060 It's every podcast. This is the worst. Go for it, Avery. I believe in you. Um, okay. I'm going to

01:33:52.000 like, like, so a 10 to me is like a Victoria's Secret model. So that's why I'm comparing myself. I

01:33:56.380 would say a six. Okay. Seven. Like appearance wise or everything? Looks. Just looks. Looks.

01:34:08.880 Seven. Hold on. Anonymous donated $100. Oh, who's the audio?

01:34:13.980 Before. Feminist from all races or religion would be so embarrassed. I'm 25 and some of you women are

01:34:21.780 old on this panel and you're embarrassing. I tell myself one day I'm going to be on the panel.

01:34:28.120 Stupid woman equals broken society. I'm woman BTW. She's a woman. BTW.

01:34:35.700 Your grammar sucks. So I think you might be one of those stupid women.

01:34:39.100 Um, yeah, I'm intelligent. I don't know what you talk about. Shots fired. Okay. I'm pretty smart.

01:34:44.860 What do you rate yourself on a scale of one to 10? Seven. Um, I want to say like, um, eight or nine.

01:34:54.520 I want to say 10, but I'll say eight or nine. Okay. Uh, I hate this question. Um, I guess a seven.

01:35:02.480 Um, I would say six. I would say seven. Safe seven. All right. A lot of angel numbers here.

01:35:11.980 There you have it. Stifler. Okay. Um, so let's see here. We had, we had one other thing to react to.

01:35:20.020 Let me see if I have it. Um, okay. I think we were going around the table on something.

01:35:24.940 It was the 50, 50 thing, but we can move on from that. Uh, does anybody have anything dating related?

01:35:29.860 Did they want to get off your chat, their chest? Maybe there's a frustration that you experience

01:35:34.340 when it comes to dating men are pissing you off in some way. Uh, just anything you wanted to get

01:35:40.800 off your chest. And Avery, I want to prompt you really quick. I saw on your Instagram that you

01:35:44.880 were thoroughly traumatized by one of your previous partners. It was in one of your clips or whatever

01:35:51.200 on Instagram. Oh yeah. Wait, which one? Oh, there's been a lot of multiple of a lot of trauma.

01:36:00.160 Like just like fuck boys. What are we talking here? Yeah, man. I just want love. I don't know

01:36:05.480 why. I don't know if it's Los Angeles, probably Los Angeles. Yeah. Probably Los Angeles. It's just,

01:36:11.960 yeah, men haven't been, haven't been great to me. So, and to be fair, I've accepted that.

01:36:17.660 Like I accepted not being treated great. So I know a lot of it is my fault, but I don't

01:36:23.400 know. Has there been, has there been a pattern of men not treating you well? Yeah. Okay. Um,

01:36:30.720 do you think part of that is because of the men that you find yourself attracted to? I do think

01:36:37.200 yes, which is why I'm trying to be attracted to something different. But I think, especially

01:36:42.460 with dating apps, you're getting like the hottest matches ever. And that just doesn't ever go well

01:36:48.140 because that's profound. Yeah. So I'm, I'm thinking dating apps aren't just not going to work

01:36:55.480 because you can't help but swipe on the hottest people. Right. Yeah. But then they're douchebags.

01:37:01.940 So what do we, I'm just, I think I'm just going to delete them. Do you do most of the guys you meet?

01:37:06.600 Are they from dating apps? Yes. Okay. Because I don't know how else to meet people. I work from home.

01:37:11.640 Um, what, what are we supposed to do? Like, does it, can I find a husband through this podcast?

01:37:18.320 Oh, I don't do church. The grocery store. Where? The grocery store. Will you marry me?

01:37:25.940 Oh my God. Really? That's so sweet. Yeah. Oh wait, fuck. I didn't. There we go.

01:37:31.340 Oh my God. I'm going to cry. It's the sweetest moment I've ever experienced.

01:37:37.820 You're going to leave me hanging here. What's up? I accept. I accept. Can I just throw it at you?

01:37:44.660 Catch it on your finger. Okay. Oh my God. Oops. Eric, it's under the desk. That was a terrible throw.

01:37:53.360 I broke my ring. That was a great throw. That was a great throw. Did I break it? No, it's good.

01:37:58.340 Okay. I don't think it's. You just made my whole, my whole life. Thank you. Eric, can you just hand it to her off? Yeah. Or Avery, maybe you can do a little reach for it.

01:38:08.400 Can I wear it? Yeah. Put it on. Bro, you put that on your right hand. What are you doing, dork?

01:38:14.540 Get it together, Avery. Oh, I look so cute. I'm so happy. Okay. You're dead. All right. But I mean, you said, so you said you're looking for other dudes. So maybe Zach, the Asmongold, he's an option, you know?

01:38:32.420 Yeah. I mean, look, whoever thinks, I just want to be with someone that thinks I'm special. So whoever is going to.

01:38:40.060 That thinks you're special? Yes. I think you're special.

01:38:43.040 So if you think I'm special. The short bus. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.

01:38:49.940 First time, long time. Oh no.

01:38:53.040 Thank God, Margot Robbie from Wish Self-Deported. Disrespecting the rules of your house and bogarting the convo with those Sam Paku eyes.

01:39:01.740 Facts. Let's hear more from Harley Quinn and the girls in the back corner. FJB Trump 2024. Jesus is king.

01:39:09.860 Okay, Persian, hey, thank you for the $100 donation. And thank you especially for the 69 cents on top of it. Much appreciated.

01:39:18.180 Yeah, I mean, I do feel bad. Like, I feel like she did kind of dominate the conversation. Maybe I should have been like, okay.

01:39:23.380 I think you were giving me daggers for a little bit during that.

01:39:26.620 Oh, I was just.

01:39:27.600 Or I don't know if you were just kind of like, what the fuck is going on or?

01:39:30.300 Kind of.

01:39:30.720 I was just like, yeah.

01:39:33.040 Brian, may I ask you a question?

01:39:34.240 What's up?

01:39:34.760 Do you agree with the majority of your viewers and the perspectives they share?

01:39:38.120 Do you, do you, you guys, you got beef? What do you want? Tell me how you really feel.

01:39:41.320 No, I'm just curious.

01:39:41.980 Tell me how you really feel about my viewers.

01:39:43.640 I'm just genuinely curious.

01:39:45.140 Well, I mean, I would say this.

01:39:46.860 Majority wise.

01:39:47.660 Well, I would say this.

01:39:49.600 And I give credit to Tupac who said this in the 90s.

01:39:53.480 He said something along the lines of, I am only responsible for the words that come out of my mouth.

01:39:58.640 I can't, I do not take ownership of what other people say.

01:40:01.960 I don't claim to know the position on various political issues and social issues that all my viewers hold.

01:40:09.500 I'm sure I have a diversity of thought when it comes to my viewership, so it's hard to say.

01:40:14.400 I haven't taken a poll on what specifically my viewers think.

01:40:17.980 You would have to ask me specifically what you think my viewers think, and I could confirm or deny whether I agree or disagree with them.

01:40:25.560 I'm just curious if you've noticed a string of either hate or disrespectful comments coming from your viewership, just genuine curiosity, and if you support that sort of behavior and demeanor.

01:40:42.420 Well, I mean, you'd have to tell me which specific comment.

01:40:45.040 I'm not, we get something like over 10,000 chats a show.

01:40:49.180 I don't read all the, I don't, actually, really, I just see the super chats and the TTS.

01:40:53.740 I know you said not to read the chat, but every time I look over, I see somebody calling us sluts.

01:40:59.720 Three or fours, is that what they're saying?

01:41:02.160 Yeah, which I'm sure stands for ho.

01:41:05.560 I mean, so as far as, again, you'd have to tell me a specific comment that someone makes.

01:41:13.520 I'm not responsible for the words that somebody else says.

01:41:18.780 I would say, though, sometimes, yeah, the super chats, they maybe can be insulting.

01:41:23.740 I would agree with you there.

01:41:26.240 Sometimes they're just playful roasting, but, yeah.

01:41:29.180 I feel like they try to be witty, and they try to be insulting, but it kind of flops.

01:41:33.200 And, I mean, I would.

01:41:34.040 I'd like to see somebody make me laugh with one of them.

01:41:36.920 Like, banter should be encouraged in any setting like this, but I'm just curious.

01:41:41.920 It was just genuine curiosity.

01:41:43.160 Well, I mean, I would just, I would say what I told you before the show is that the internet, because of the anonymity, people are, you know, people are going to be, like, say fucked up shit.

01:41:58.040 We have a couple moderators.

01:41:59.400 We don't have a ton of moderators.

01:42:00.640 We're pretty lax when it comes to the chat moderation.

01:42:03.580 Unless there's something really egregious, we don't really, you know, like, you know, people are going to have their opinions, and we just kind of free flow, you know?

01:42:13.200 They don't like us, and there's nothing that we can say to make them like us, because you have a pretty wide range of opinions and backgrounds sitting here at this table.

01:42:20.320 But to your viewers, we're all hoes, and there's nothing we can say to change that.

01:42:24.560 If we give an answer they agree with, we're lying.

01:42:26.840 Chat, confirm or deny, are they all hoes?

01:42:29.380 I will say no.

01:42:30.380 Confirm or deny, are they all hoes?

01:42:32.000 What does 304s mean?

01:42:33.260 Your chat thinks so.

01:42:34.040 It means hoes.

01:42:34.820 Oh, I keep seeing that.

01:42:37.240 Oh.

01:42:38.560 Well, I mean, we could, you know, assess the degree to which.

01:42:43.720 What makes a woman a hoe?

01:42:45.920 Well, let's talk about body count.

01:42:48.200 There's a double standard.

01:42:49.200 What is that?

01:42:50.180 What's considered being applied?

01:42:52.140 It is a justified body, or excuse me, justified double standard.

01:42:55.260 Is it, though?

01:42:56.160 Oh, yeah.

01:42:56.560 Because emotional attachment and psychology would say otherwise.

01:42:59.580 I have no idea what you mean, but we're going to get into that.

01:43:02.220 So, let's go around the table.

01:43:03.860 First off.

01:43:04.520 No, no, no, no, no.

01:43:06.620 Should body count matter?

01:43:09.220 No.

01:43:10.760 No.

01:43:11.940 No.

01:43:12.580 It should be a conversation of discussion between you and your partner.

01:43:15.940 Okay, I'll go around the table.

01:43:17.200 Go ahead.

01:43:18.580 Yes.

01:43:19.780 Okay.

01:43:20.280 What about you?

01:43:21.080 No.

01:43:22.040 What?

01:43:22.480 Yeah.

01:43:22.860 Oh.

01:43:23.520 Say it again.

01:43:24.520 I don't think the camera was on you.

01:43:26.260 Go ahead.

01:43:27.340 Yes.

01:43:28.880 I think yes, but I wouldn't want to know.

01:43:31.360 You wouldn't want to know the guy's body count?

01:43:32.940 No.

01:43:33.360 Okay, let me just make the question a bit more precise.

01:43:37.540 Do you have an issue with men who, would you take quarrel with men having, ah, fuck, sorry,

01:43:45.340 I'm thinking the best way to word this.

01:43:47.340 Do you, would you take quarrel with a man caring about your body count or a woman's body

01:43:52.840 count?

01:43:53.180 Go ahead.

01:43:53.480 Wait, do I have quarrel with someone else's body count?

01:43:57.440 Would you take quarrel for, because I think men tend to care about this more than women

01:44:01.660 do.

01:44:02.080 There's certainly women that do care about their partner's body count.

01:44:05.200 However, I think men have more, and there's reasons for this, men care more about it than

01:44:09.420 women do.

01:44:09.840 Um, so would you, do you have an issue?

01:44:14.620 You, for example, the previous question I asked is, should body count matter?

01:44:19.040 And you could view that as, well, I don't care about body count.

01:44:21.920 However, I guess the way I want to get to the bottom of this is, do you think, or do

01:44:27.480 you have an issue with men caring about body count?

01:44:30.780 Do you have an issue with that preference that men have?

01:44:33.940 Oh, so if a man's going to be upset with me for my body count being too high, you're saying

01:44:38.500 am I, would I be upset by that?

01:44:40.220 Would you take issue with a man having a preference for a woman with a low body count?

01:44:44.820 Do you think that's a wrong preference to have?

01:44:47.680 It's not a wrong preference to have.

01:44:49.600 I understand.

01:44:50.600 It's just that I also don't like being judged because when I was more promiscuous, I was

01:44:57.740 going through a really hard time and I was depressed and like, that's how I dealt with

01:45:02.580 it.

01:45:03.140 So I don't feel, yes, it is.

01:45:05.820 It is a form of self harm.

01:45:06.860 So that's why I just, I wouldn't want to be judged, but I understand if they would have

01:45:11.340 a problem with it and then they're not the right guy for me if it's too high for them

01:45:14.800 or whatever.

01:45:15.420 But yeah.

01:45:18.200 I wouldn't take issue with it.

01:45:19.860 Like everybody has their boundaries and that's fine.

01:45:22.720 Okay.

01:45:24.440 But show of hands, who says body count does matter?

01:45:30.120 To a certain extent.

01:45:31.740 Okay.

01:45:32.040 You three.

01:45:32.320 Okay.

01:45:32.940 So for those of you who said, and perhaps the ones who also said it should matter can

01:45:38.140 answer this.

01:45:38.680 For those who said body count should not matter, does not matter.

01:45:42.480 What's your body count?

01:45:47.720 Okay.

01:45:48.720 45.

01:45:49.700 45.

01:45:50.480 Okay.

01:45:50.800 Yes.

01:45:51.300 What about you?

01:45:51.860 I'm going to play the fifth on this one.

01:45:53.460 Come on.

01:45:54.700 Be a good sport.

01:45:55.480 Be a good sport.

01:45:56.220 She answered.

01:45:56.860 Honestly, to tell you the truth, I don't really know and I'll tell you why.

01:46:01.240 There was a lot of years that I was using and drinking.

01:46:04.180 I'm like two and a half years of sober sobriety.

01:46:06.920 Okay.

01:46:07.400 I'm proud of you.

01:46:08.100 Yeah.

01:46:08.280 Congratulations.

01:46:09.540 Thanks, man.

01:46:10.660 So there's a lot of situations where I don't remember.

01:46:13.800 Sure.

01:46:14.420 You know?

01:46:15.840 Range.

01:46:16.440 Do you want to give us a range?

01:46:17.960 A guesstimate?

01:46:18.620 I'd say it's like 60.

01:46:22.800 60?

01:46:23.300 Okay.

01:46:23.680 60.

01:46:24.180 What about you?

01:46:25.080 What's yours?

01:46:27.340 What's your body count?

01:46:28.380 What's yours?

01:46:28.740 I'm curious.

01:46:30.060 Okay.

01:46:30.460 There's a process to this podcast.

01:46:32.320 It's my show.

01:46:33.260 I'm asking you guys individually.

01:46:34.840 You're not going to do a reverse Uno.

01:46:36.220 What's your body count?

01:46:37.600 Will you tell me afterwards?

01:46:39.360 Because I'm curious.

01:46:40.020 Answer the question.

01:46:40.940 Okay.

01:46:41.260 14.

01:46:42.100 Okay.

01:46:43.920 Into the mic, please.

01:46:45.600 And you need to scoot the mic that way, please.

01:46:48.200 Okay.

01:46:48.620 I'm not stating.

01:46:52.040 I thought body count shouldn't matter then.

01:46:53.940 That's not what I said.

01:46:55.580 I said a discussion between the partners.

01:46:57.920 That's fair.

01:46:58.380 You're right.

01:46:58.740 You're right.

01:46:59.060 You did say that.

01:47:00.000 Okay.

01:47:01.080 So do you want to give us a range?

01:47:03.880 No.

01:47:05.040 Okay.

01:47:06.600 I can give you the fact that I was in a seven-year relationship and I was engaged.

01:47:11.180 And that was a majority of my life.

01:47:12.260 Okay.

01:47:12.540 So you had sex at least one time.

01:47:14.300 Good to know.

01:47:15.000 Okay.

01:47:15.260 What about you?

01:47:15.700 We're all doing this?

01:47:16.680 Yes.

01:47:17.000 Oh, I thought you were saying just the people that said body count didn't matter.

01:47:19.080 Yeah, why not?

01:47:19.680 We'll just go around the table.

01:47:22.400 I would rather not say, but yeah.

01:47:26.660 I don't know.

01:47:27.440 I lost my virginity when I was 22 and I've been in one relationship.

01:47:30.940 So.

01:47:31.660 What?

01:47:32.300 So it's.

01:47:32.860 Use that little thing.

01:47:33.840 You calculate.

01:47:34.420 What do they do?

01:47:34.960 Is they say multiply by three?

01:47:36.880 Use your little calculations and figure it out.

01:47:39.440 So it's low then?

01:47:42.380 Yeah.

01:47:43.000 What is it?

01:47:44.420 I'd rather.

01:47:45.200 I just told you.

01:47:46.320 I mean.

01:47:46.520 It's one?

01:47:47.420 Everyone has.

01:47:48.260 Is it one?

01:47:48.620 Well, I said use the calculations, you know.

01:47:50.760 So like.

01:47:51.140 So, okay.

01:47:51.520 So it's three?

01:47:52.740 Something like that.

01:47:53.720 All right.

01:47:54.040 For sure.

01:47:54.380 Fine.

01:47:54.680 What about you?

01:47:56.420 I don't know.

01:47:58.100 I don't sit around and count, but probably 20.

01:48:03.020 Okay.

01:48:03.720 Sure.

01:48:05.840 Four.

01:48:06.240 Four.

01:48:08.900 Yeah.

01:48:10.400 I'm not going to put it out there.

01:48:12.320 Range?

01:48:13.120 No.

01:48:13.580 Range?

01:48:14.100 Come on.

01:48:15.240 No.

01:48:15.880 More than 10?

01:48:17.860 I'm not going to give you.

01:48:19.100 Smart girl.

01:48:19.660 Less than 10?

01:48:20.320 More than 10?

01:48:21.060 I'm not.

01:48:21.520 I don't want to put it out there.

01:48:22.940 That's my answer.

01:48:24.200 Okay.

01:48:24.560 Well, in any case.

01:48:27.320 Multiply it by three and that's the real number.

01:48:29.220 Whatever.

01:48:29.420 Whatever the numbers may be.

01:48:32.200 So, no.

01:48:32.880 I'm not going to answer your question.

01:48:34.400 Why not?

01:48:35.240 Well, I think body count matters.

01:48:38.180 Thus, I'm not going to answer it.

01:48:41.200 Okay.

01:48:41.320 But if you pressed us for hours, why won't you give yours?

01:48:43.820 Well, because I think body count matters.

01:48:45.600 Yeah.

01:48:45.780 But some of us thought it mattered.

01:48:46.900 Yeah.

01:48:47.100 I thought it mattered.

01:48:48.120 And you still made me.

01:48:49.580 Well, I didn't make you.

01:48:50.880 Three people raised their hands and said it mattered.

01:48:51.700 And you didn't really answer the question.

01:48:53.100 Okay.

01:48:53.240 So, you're not going to answer.

01:48:54.840 So, I'm going to assume 10.

01:48:55.400 I'm a man of God.

01:48:56.060 Multiply that by three.

01:48:56.860 So, 30.

01:48:57.720 Well, actually, for men, you divide by three.

01:48:59.620 You got some riz.

01:49:00.480 For men, you divide by three, actually.

01:49:02.320 I don't think so.

01:49:03.140 That's how it goes.

01:49:04.260 No, I don't think so.

01:49:05.860 I'm going to put you at, like, 30.

01:49:07.340 You think 30?

01:49:07.940 You got riz.

01:49:08.920 You think so?

01:49:09.760 Sure.

01:49:10.280 I think so.

01:49:13.000 I can either confirm or deny this guess.

01:49:15.360 Okay.

01:49:15.740 So, you said it was a double standard.

01:49:19.220 I do think.

01:49:20.160 Yes, I do think.

01:49:20.960 How so?

01:49:20.980 What do you mean?

01:49:21.360 I think often men want women to have a very low body count.

01:49:27.260 Sure.

01:49:27.720 And when a woman objects to a man having a higher body count, it's seen, like, it's absurd.

01:49:34.960 Why would you ask me that?

01:49:35.960 Because men are praised for having sexual interactions while women are demeaned for having more sexual interactions.

01:49:42.660 Sure.

01:49:43.820 The double standard.

01:49:45.180 Yeah.

01:49:45.520 Yeah, I've heard this also go something along the lines of, you know, when a woman sleeps with a lot of men, she's viewed as a slut.

01:49:54.420 But when a guy does the same thing, he's viewed as gay.

01:49:58.660 Huh?

01:49:59.120 Wait, what?

01:49:59.980 With a lot of women?

01:50:00.700 This is a bad joke.

01:50:01.520 Yeah, because when a man sleeps with four men, oh my God, they're gay.

01:50:05.080 Okay.

01:50:05.500 No, but yes, I know what you mean.

01:50:07.080 Oh, oh.

01:50:07.520 But that's, that really just comes down to it's easy for women to get laid.

01:50:11.840 It's hard for men to get laid.

01:50:13.220 I don't believe that, though.

01:50:15.280 Women are the gatekeepers of sex.

01:50:17.360 Hold on, hold on.

01:50:18.200 We'll come back to that.

01:50:19.160 Hold on.

01:50:19.180 $110.

01:50:20.500 Don't think you're all 403s.

01:50:23.540 Respect you for coming on and sharing your views.

01:50:26.600 Would you ever date a virgin?

01:50:28.100 A guy saving themselves for marriage?

01:50:30.700 Do you respect a guy with purity values who respects women?

01:50:35.460 Okay, so let's do this.

01:50:37.220 We'll do just the first two questions there.

01:50:39.040 Would you date a virgin and would you date a guy saving himself for marriage?

01:50:42.740 Yes.

01:50:43.440 Yes.

01:50:44.080 Yes.

01:50:44.340 Here, let's just go around the table really quick.

01:50:45.900 Okay, absolutely.

01:50:47.440 I would not date a virgin.

01:50:49.560 Sure.

01:50:50.500 I did.

01:50:51.020 I will not again.

01:50:52.520 I've never dated a virgin, but I would.

01:50:55.360 I would not.

01:50:56.960 I would.

01:50:57.520 I would.

01:50:57.920 I would.

01:50:59.600 Okay.

01:51:00.080 Okay, cool.

01:51:01.320 Go ahead with your point.

01:51:03.000 Oh, I just explained the disparity between the two of them.

01:51:06.020 Well, you got interrupted there, so if you could just maybe rewind five seconds.

01:51:11.880 The entire portion?

01:51:13.140 I can.

01:51:14.680 Mm-hmm.

01:51:14.940 Okay, I was saying that women are often chastised or demeaned because they have a higher body

01:51:23.260 count where men are praised for having a higher body count, and there is a stark disparity

01:51:29.280 between two.

01:51:30.200 That's because, well, the reason why men are praised is because it's hard for men to get

01:51:35.000 laid.

01:51:35.140 It's easy for women to get laid.

01:51:37.200 I disagree.

01:51:39.420 Women are the gatekeepers of sex, but it doesn't mean that it can't be taken from you.

01:51:44.940 But what?

01:51:45.560 I met plenty of women, and many men are very manipulative with their intent, and I met

01:51:51.080 plenty of women.

01:51:51.820 Oh, my God.

01:51:51.840 Y'all love to derail the conversation with this.

01:51:53.500 I don't understand.

01:51:54.100 No, no.

01:51:54.420 It's not derailing.

01:51:55.120 It's not derailing.

01:51:55.520 It's not derailing.

01:51:55.540 Cringe.

01:51:55.840 I just donated $100.

01:51:58.300 Love him or hate him, Brian, always spitting straight facts on this podcast.

01:52:03.100 A-okay hand.

01:52:04.300 Also, my body count is over 9,000.

01:52:06.800 It's over 9,000!

01:52:07.980 I was going to say this!

01:52:09.000 Over 9,000!

01:52:09.640 Yes!

01:52:11.200 Hold on, I'll play it one more time.

01:52:12.380 It's over 9,000!

01:52:14.880 Yeah, thank you, man.

01:52:15.600 Appreciate it.

01:52:16.400 Okay.

01:52:16.980 Brian, where would you like me to come back?

01:52:18.440 Because I would rather have a discussion than you feel that I'm derailing the conversation

01:52:22.700 because that's not where I want to go.

01:52:23.900 But, okay, we're talking about the double standard, and now you want to bring up SA?

01:52:33.400 I don't, again, I don't see how it's related.

01:52:38.580 Okay, fine.

01:52:38.840 I don't see how it's related.

01:52:40.220 I'll take it off the table.

01:52:40.800 Most women who have high body counts, it's not due to SA.

01:52:44.840 It's due to consensual, casual sex.

01:52:49.000 So I don't see how it's at all related to the conversation.

01:52:52.540 But if guys were able to, they would, too.

01:52:55.280 I don't get this whole thing about guys get laid less than girls.

01:52:59.280 Like, I don't understand.

01:52:59.760 It's true.

01:53:00.660 How men always have someone to cheat with, though.

01:53:03.580 That is so not true, bro.

01:53:04.840 They don't have, if they don't get as much girls, or the whole scenario, if that's true, how

01:53:10.080 do they always find someone to cheat with?

01:53:12.280 It makes no sense.

01:53:14.040 How?

01:53:14.460 Is that possible?

01:53:15.200 You're just surrounding yourself by cheaters.

01:53:16.720 I don't know.

01:53:17.460 Well, I've never been.

01:53:18.360 All men are not cheaters.

01:53:19.160 I've never been cheated on personally, but I see it all the time.

01:53:23.160 I see men that always have multiple girls.

01:53:26.840 Like, it's nothing.

01:53:27.480 Eric, can you open the door?

01:53:28.340 It's fucking hot, man.

01:53:29.500 It is hot.

01:53:29.880 Yeah, I'm sweating.

01:53:31.120 Eric trying to boil us.

01:53:33.100 Okay.

01:53:33.800 Just kidding.

01:53:34.320 I love you, Eric.

01:53:35.140 Just kidding.

01:53:36.460 So you think it's easy for men to get laid?

01:53:41.580 Yeah.

01:53:41.980 I don't think it's as hard as they make it seem, like.

01:53:44.980 Bruv.

01:53:45.720 I will.

01:53:46.320 No, I think it is really hard, because I like girls, too, and I can't fucking talk to them

01:53:50.200 to save my life.

01:53:51.320 Oh, beast.

01:53:52.100 There we go.

01:53:53.380 Okay, hold on.

01:53:54.300 You deserve a little.

01:53:55.760 There we go.

01:53:56.580 Okay.

01:53:59.700 You wanted to come in.

01:54:00.840 Go ahead.

01:54:02.020 I would agree that men have it harder, but it is a specific percentage of men that have

01:54:07.900 it harder.

01:54:09.400 It's a very high percentage of men.

01:54:11.440 Right.

01:54:11.680 Right, that percentage is large that have it harder, but that top 1%, which, I'm not going

01:54:18.220 to lie, that women tend to be panning for, have a much higher body count than the everyday

01:54:23.720 woman, because they have that access, because they've built that access for themselves.

01:54:29.460 But this is, again, the apex fallacy.

01:54:32.440 You're looking at the top percentage of men.

01:54:35.380 I'm speaking in generalities here.

01:54:37.620 Are there men that are running through chicks who are top tier, really attractive, high

01:54:43.560 status, wealthy men?

01:54:45.000 Absolutely.

01:54:45.640 They tend to have the bigger voice.

01:54:46.300 There's regular men that are doing that.

01:54:48.420 I'm from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.

01:54:50.440 I know people down the street that work at the grocery store and still have a girl to

01:54:54.960 cheat with.

01:54:55.420 So, he's not a top earner and he still has someone to sleep with on the side, outside

01:55:01.360 of his relationship.

01:55:02.120 But it's over, are there men that are promiscuous?

01:55:05.660 Absolutely.

01:55:06.180 Are there men that...

01:55:06.900 I think all men are promiscuous.

01:55:08.660 Women are more promiscuous than men.

01:55:10.660 Ah, I disagree.

01:55:13.400 No.

01:55:14.120 I agree with Brian.

01:55:14.880 Women are more promiscuous.

01:55:16.280 What world am I living in?

01:55:18.160 Here's why.

01:55:18.740 Here's why.

01:55:19.180 Women have more capability to be promiscuous.

01:55:22.460 You take an average dude, an average dude, bro, he's going to struggle to get a girlfriend

01:55:27.620 to get laid.

01:55:29.740 An average chick, if she was so inclined, could sleep with three new guys a day.

01:55:35.640 Okay.

01:55:37.320 Okay, that's fair.

01:55:38.140 I think...

01:55:38.540 I mean, I could see it that way.

01:55:39.540 So, the standard stems from jealousy then is what you're saying?

01:55:43.220 It's not jealousy.

01:55:43.860 It's just, it's easier for women to get laid.

01:55:45.680 Okay, so if it's easier...

01:55:46.540 So, that's why men are praised for it, because it's viewed as...

01:55:49.060 Because it's more of an accomplishment for them.

01:55:50.480 Okay, I get what you're saying.

01:55:51.560 It's difficult to get laid as a guy.

01:55:53.480 That's fair, and I agree.

01:55:54.080 Like, I'm sure that's incredibly frustrating, but I don't think it's fair to be so hateful

01:55:59.160 to the women who are able to have sex, like, that's somebody else's life, not yours.

01:56:03.780 It shouldn't affect you.

01:56:04.580 I'm not being hateful.

01:56:05.820 Your chat.

01:56:06.740 I'm addressing your viewers, not you.

01:56:08.840 I'm saying, like, in general, like, if a guy sees, like, a woman and, like, his immediate

01:56:13.280 thought is, oh, she's a ho, she has an active sex life.

01:56:16.380 You're free to think what you want.

01:56:17.720 That's fine.

01:56:18.680 At the same time, you're not actively sleeping with her.

01:56:21.580 That's not your girlfriend.

01:56:22.400 Why does somebody else's life and their choices affect you so deeply that you have to direct

01:56:26.160 hate towards them?

01:56:28.420 Well, I mean, there's a couple questions there, but, I mean, I think, generally speaking,

01:56:32.200 there's kind of a counterculture going on where people are not particularly enthused with

01:56:38.520 hookup culture.

01:56:40.360 I'm not either.

01:56:41.980 But I don't think name-calling and singling out women to shame them for their private

01:56:47.700 lives is right either.

01:56:49.120 So how do we get rid of hookup culture?

01:56:52.480 Well, we can't.

01:56:53.360 Women.

01:56:54.020 We can't.

01:56:55.280 Women can stop it.

01:56:55.780 Honestly, I think women need to start shaming women on this one, I think.

01:56:58.660 Yeah, women can stop that.

01:56:59.520 I'm not going to shame anybody.

01:57:00.300 For sure.

01:57:00.800 Because we are the ones that, we are the ones who decide outside of, you know, the other

01:57:08.300 stuff.

01:57:08.520 We get it.

01:57:08.820 We are the ones who decide if a man is going to sleep with us or not.

01:57:12.900 If you would say no, like, for example, the cheating thing, like, men would not be able

01:57:18.520 to cheat on their girls if there wasn't a woman that was willing in saying yes.

01:57:24.180 We are the ones who hold the power to that.

01:57:26.860 We're the ones who control a hookup culture or whatever you want to call it.

01:57:31.440 Like, it's our power.

01:57:33.100 We can say no.

01:57:35.940 I won't shame anyone, man or woman, because I feel like people's private lives are exactly

01:57:40.360 that.

01:57:40.760 They're private lives and it doesn't involve me.

01:57:43.300 But that's only if you have a problem with hookup culture.

01:57:45.320 Like, if you don't care, like, if you're for it, then whatever.

01:57:48.800 Do what you want to do with your life.

01:57:50.040 But for people who, you know, have a problem with it, just know you as a woman, you're

01:57:54.700 the one who has the control over that, like, a hundred percent.

01:57:58.820 I don't partake in hookup culture, but I think, like, generally, I don't think anyone should

01:58:03.240 shame anyone.

01:58:04.640 Agreed.

01:58:05.160 You said you don't partake in hookup culture.

01:58:07.020 I mean...

01:58:07.380 Because I'm in a long-term relationship.

01:58:09.520 And even...

01:58:10.040 Well, you previously partook in hookup culture.

01:58:12.600 Not...

01:58:12.940 No, not really.

01:58:13.640 I don't think...

01:58:15.040 There's not many times that I'm not in a long-term relationship.

01:58:17.580 Excuse me if I'm misquoting, and I'm not saying this to attack you, but didn't you

01:58:23.220 say your body count was, like, 14?

01:58:25.540 Yes.

01:58:26.280 I mean, I don't suspect all of those were long-term relationships.

01:58:30.600 Obviously, I did have hookups, but it's not a regular thing I would ever partake in.

01:58:35.300 There's definitely girls who are more consistent in participating in hookup culture.

01:58:39.860 And I think that's fine.

01:58:40.220 You know, again, like, that's their private life and that's their business.

01:58:42.960 And I don't think anyone should shame anyone, even if you disagree with hookup culture.

01:58:46.180 At the end of the day, you lay in your bed and you have your own thoughts and issues

01:58:50.740 to reckon with.

01:58:51.660 You know, everybody else's life is just that.

01:58:53.380 Their life.

01:58:53.920 We're all in this shit together.

01:58:56.080 You know, like, you can't change what somebody wants to do with their body.

01:58:59.860 You can only be responsible for yourself.

01:59:01.620 And I think a lot more people need to be focusing on themselves rather than what others are doing.

01:59:06.400 Okay.

01:59:06.820 So, to bring it back to the double standard, one of the reasons why there's a different

01:59:11.120 standard on this is because it's very easy for women to get laid.

01:59:14.680 And it's hard for men to get laid.

01:59:16.700 Do you agree with that?

01:59:19.740 I don't think.

01:59:20.760 Oh, me?

01:59:21.520 I know you disagree.

01:59:22.820 You think it's easy for men to get laid.

01:59:24.460 I don't think all, like, I don't think all women have it easy.

01:59:30.340 I think, again, it's like a top percentage that predominantly are viewed as attractive

01:59:35.040 that have it very easy.

01:59:36.400 I would say, like, almost barring, like, morbid obesity or, like, severe, like, I'm

01:59:46.400 talking, like, bottom one percentile in terms of physical attractiveness.

01:59:53.540 I would say the top 90% of women could, like, fuck a new dude every single day of the week.

02:00:00.100 Yeah.

02:00:00.280 Men don't say no.

02:00:01.160 Like, on Tinder, we had a girl, okay, we had a girl last show who, pleasant girl, I'm

02:00:06.680 not saying this to be insulting to her or to denigrate her in any way.

02:00:11.240 She was of below average attractiveness.

02:00:15.440 She was overweight.

02:00:16.900 She said she had a sex addiction.

02:00:18.960 She said that she, her body count was 136, something like that.

02:00:23.280 And she was, at one point, sleeping with, she had slept with, I don't know how consistent

02:00:27.860 it was, but at one point, she was able to sleep with six men in one day.

02:00:33.160 In order for a male to do that, you need to, I don't even think, like, a top tier guy, just

02:00:39.920 solely on top one percent of physical attractiveness could do that.

02:00:44.700 In order for a guy to do that, you need status.

02:00:46.900 You need to be like Drake.

02:00:49.500 You need to be a male celeb, like, top tier athlete, musician, or actor to sleep with six

02:00:56.040 new women in the day.

02:00:57.500 I don't even, like I said, I don't even think a top tier male who doesn't have status could

02:01:01.500 do that.

02:01:02.840 So, and she's like a below, I'm not saying this to be mean, but just to articulate my

02:01:07.480 point, she's like below average.

02:01:10.940 Six dudes in a night.

02:01:12.580 Very few men can claim being able to do that.

02:01:15.240 But most men struggle to get a match on Tinder, to get a date off of Tinder.

02:01:22.840 Well, men are just way less picky as well.

02:01:27.160 Brian, I see your point, though.

02:01:28.180 So, their standards are...

02:01:29.100 What's that?

02:01:29.520 I see your point, and I agree with you.

02:01:30.840 Oh, for women, yeah, what you're saying.

02:01:34.120 Yeah, I completely agree with you when I'm saying it, because men, as long as they're

02:01:40.440 having sex, they usually don't care.

02:01:42.180 Yeah.

02:01:43.000 Unless they're looking for a relationship, and that's a good situation.

02:01:45.660 Any single girl at this table, and to be fair, we've got some attractive girls at

02:01:49.380 the table.

02:01:50.800 Any single girl at this table could download Tinder right now.

02:01:53.540 It's 9, 11 p.m.

02:01:55.860 You could get laid tonight if you were so inclined.

02:01:58.380 Do any of you think you could?

02:01:59.560 If you were so inclined, you could download the dating app and get laid tonight.

02:02:03.560 100%.

02:02:04.080 Yeah.

02:02:04.360 Most guys cannot answer that question confidently.

02:02:09.080 Most guys cannot say, on a Sunday at 9 p.m., it's going to be hard for me to fuck a girl

02:02:14.920 tonight.

02:02:16.340 I couldn't do that shit.

02:02:19.100 I couldn't do that.

02:02:21.520 Skill issue.

02:02:21.880 How do they always find someone in the TV?

02:02:23.020 Skill issue.

02:02:24.300 What the hell?

02:02:25.060 I thought I had Riz.

02:02:25.900 What's up?

02:02:27.800 Throw me under the bus.

02:02:28.900 Full 180, dude.

02:02:29.760 Throw me under the bus.

02:02:30.520 No, but it's just different.

02:02:33.760 It's different.

02:02:35.660 But you still think that it's easier for men to get laid?

02:02:39.380 I just, I don't think it's as hard as, I don't know, maybe it's the type of guys that

02:02:44.340 I'm mostly around.

02:02:45.820 I don't know, maybe that's it, because I'm mostly around people in the entertainment

02:02:49.240 industry.

02:02:49.840 Sure.

02:02:50.200 So maybe that's what I'm seeing, but I don't know.

02:02:53.580 Like I said, I know people from my hometown that are not, if you want to put rates to

02:03:00.500 it, below average or not, regular men, and they still have multiple people to sleep with.

02:03:08.280 So I don't know.

02:03:10.320 It's like, okay, there's statistics, and then there's what I've seen in my life.

02:03:14.060 Okay, so there's a couple things.

02:03:15.480 So besides looks, men are able to be attractive to women in other ways besides just their physical

02:03:22.460 appearance.

02:03:22.760 So there's a few ways.

02:03:23.580 Status is one.

02:03:25.100 Game.

02:03:26.540 Riz.

02:03:28.140 How's your riz?

02:03:31.520 Honest.

02:03:32.040 On one hand, I think I got a couple moves here and there.

02:03:35.980 The heating pad adds to it, for sure.

02:03:37.640 On the other hand, I'm like my own biggest cock block, because I say some ridiculous shit.

02:03:43.680 Bridging of the choir.

02:03:44.380 I think I'm like slightly, I don't know, am I?

02:03:47.520 Guys, chat.

02:03:48.400 One in the chat, if you guys think I'm autistic.

02:03:50.240 I don't know.

02:03:50.880 Oh, I'm autistic.

02:03:51.940 Oh, cool.

02:03:52.540 That's, oh my God.

02:03:54.760 Are we spectrum buddies?

02:03:55.820 Commonality.

02:03:57.080 What is riz?

02:03:58.440 Am I?

02:03:59.420 Nice.

02:04:00.280 I learned that on TikTok.

02:04:01.840 I'm the oldest one here.

02:04:02.760 No, no, no, I literally just learned what that was on TikTok, so don't, I was 29, so we're

02:04:09.760 like same age.

02:04:10.880 I want to say I've probably talked myself out of pussy more than I've ever talked to you.

02:04:17.680 I think your podcast turns off women.

02:04:19.800 Yeah, probably.

02:04:21.180 There's probably, I don't know if there's any girls watching, but.

02:04:24.300 His DMs are still a little bit.

02:04:25.160 You guys watching are really amazing.

02:04:26.720 It's like, no matter, it doesn't matter what you say, it's like they're always, they're

02:04:30.220 going to find a way to be like, you're either capping or you're disgusting or you're wrong.

02:04:35.100 Yeah, no.

02:04:35.700 Basements and keyboards are a thing for a reason.

02:04:38.240 What?

02:04:38.500 Okay.

02:04:38.640 To answer your question, especially living in Santa Barbara, which is a really liberal

02:04:42.220 city.

02:04:43.520 It's also a very wealthy city.

02:04:45.080 It's also wealthy, yes.

02:04:46.840 Yeah, definitely like girls have like checked out my podcast and been like, yeah, I don't

02:04:51.220 know, Brian, it's a little controversial, you know, so it is what it is like, but honestly,

02:04:57.040 I don't really care.

02:04:58.420 There's no such thing as bad press.

02:04:59.780 You do what you do for clicks.

02:05:01.800 Well, I guess, but in the romantic realm, definitely women have been like.

02:05:06.860 It's definitely off-putting.

02:05:07.940 Bro, I mean, I have like, because I've brought on like more conservative, excuse me, conservative

02:05:13.540 people and they're like, oh my God, fucking Michael Knowles and shit, what the fuck?

02:05:17.240 And they're like, I'm not even, I don't, I consider myself pretty moderate, but they

02:05:22.600 see, oh, he has conservative people on, he must be like hardcore, conservative, whatever.

02:05:28.900 You know, I would, I'm not going to get into politics.

02:05:31.320 I'd have to go through, excuse me, I'd have to go through each of my political stances one

02:05:36.800 by one.

02:05:37.360 I wouldn't just say I'm this or I'm that.

02:05:39.060 I, in any case, but yeah, definitely I've lost some girls because of the podcast, but

02:05:44.740 well, I would contribute to like woke culture and the change and that like people just look

02:05:51.660 at politics as whether it aligns with them or not.

02:05:54.920 And they're not willing to see you pass that at all.

02:05:56.840 So yeah, that doesn't surprise me at all.

02:05:58.700 And well, in addition to that, there's definitely girls who are like, whoa, you're kind of out

02:06:01.860 there in the public and like, I don't know if I'd want to be dating someone who's kind

02:06:06.880 of, you know, some corporate chick works in fucking HR at some fucking tech company in

02:06:14.860 Goleta or whatever is, I don't know.

02:06:17.280 It's kind of like a jab at me.

02:06:18.540 I'm literally an office and HR manager at a tech company in Goleta.

02:06:24.540 You're, you're in H, hold on.

02:06:25.820 You're in HR.

02:06:27.200 Correct.

02:06:28.340 Red flag.

02:06:29.160 Okay.

02:06:29.740 I'm sorry, but you seem based, but still a girl in HR, that's red flag.

02:06:35.280 Also travel nurses and, uh, air, uh, what is it?

02:06:40.640 Stuart?

02:06:41.100 What's the flight attendants?

02:06:43.100 Excuse me.

02:06:43.380 Yeah.

02:06:43.940 Yeah.

02:06:44.500 Um, so, but in the same way, like I'm getting the experience that I think only fans girls

02:06:50.600 get because there's guys who don't want to date women because they do only fans.

02:06:56.000 I'm sure you guys have maybe had that experience.

02:06:57.780 You guys do only fans.

02:06:59.900 Some guys might have an issue dating you because of that.

02:07:02.460 That's fine.

02:07:02.920 That's fine.

02:07:03.340 I'm not forcing anybody to like me.

02:07:06.580 Word.

02:07:08.380 Good times.

02:07:09.320 Word.

02:07:09.740 Oh, word.

02:07:10.060 Oh, friend.

02:07:10.460 Um, but okay.

02:07:13.080 So did you have more on the double standard?

02:07:15.560 I don't feel like I've adequately addressed your, your, uh, argument.

02:07:20.420 Oh, I was, it was more to inquire whether or not you believe there is one.

02:07:24.440 And then secondly, there is one, but it's justified.

02:07:28.400 It's justified.

02:07:29.660 But is it like, are you going to really care that much?

02:07:34.260 About what?

02:07:34.820 Great question.

02:07:35.340 Um, in your dating life, what is a okay zone for your person you're pursuing to have a

02:07:43.580 body count in?

02:07:44.400 What, what's her body count?

02:07:45.660 Like, what are you okay with before it becomes an issue?

02:07:48.480 Sure.

02:07:48.840 I mean, it varies.

02:07:49.620 Obviously the lower, the better.

02:07:51.380 Um, I'd say the lower, the better.

02:07:54.280 You would date a virgin?

02:07:55.460 Absolutely.

02:07:56.600 I, that's like preferred.

02:07:58.340 I mean, the thing is, is that's rare.

02:08:01.420 So it's, uh, and she, but, but would, would that, would I find that more attractive?

02:08:08.780 Yes.

02:08:09.680 I don't, I don't believe that men really want virgins as a 22 year old who was a virgin.

02:08:17.160 I don't know.

02:08:19.180 I don't think so.

02:08:20.320 Cause then you have to learn everything and it's, it takes practice to be good.

02:08:24.400 Yeah.

02:08:24.520 It actually does.

02:08:25.540 Oh my.

02:08:26.160 There's a lot of men that would rather have the ego boost of you learning from them and

02:08:32.520 you having a lower body count.

02:08:33.740 There's so many out there that take that in such stride.

02:08:37.240 And I'm not saying I agree, but repetitively I've heard it.

02:08:41.340 I feel like men love hoes.

02:08:44.260 No, they like the idea of it.

02:08:45.740 Nope.

02:08:46.300 Hold on.

02:08:46.880 That's what they like.

02:08:48.000 The, the, the idea is appealing to have good sex, right?

02:08:51.860 But more often when men are dating for long-term commitment, they're looking for somebody

02:08:55.240 with that lower body count so that person can learn with them and be more submissive towards

02:08:59.740 how his demeanor is and what he likes.

02:09:03.320 So it's like, it's a catering factor.

02:09:06.680 I guess, I guess.

02:09:09.060 Sex is not a complicated, sex is not a complicated procedure.

02:09:14.920 Like, especially as a guy, because even with women who are experienced sexually, they're

02:09:22.140 still going to be looking to the guy to lead in the bedroom.

02:09:25.500 Generally speaking, like most women, even if they do have experience, don't want to fuck

02:09:30.780 with a guy who's inexperienced anyways.

02:09:32.800 So your experience when it comes to sex is kind of irrelevant.

02:09:37.740 And like, as a guy, if you're a leader and you have experience when it comes to sex,

02:09:43.540 you can take a girl who you've, who's a virgin and have great sex with her.

02:09:50.040 Cause that woman's going to lie from you and what you want.

02:09:52.280 I don't mind a guy who's, I don't mind a guy who's inexperienced.

02:09:55.040 I think that's a rumor.

02:09:55.900 And then he'll cheat on her with a hoe.

02:09:57.760 Men and women are not the same.

02:09:58.880 So you, that goes without saying, but I'm saying you said that woman wouldn't want a

02:10:02.840 guy who's inexperienced, but that doesn't bother me.

02:10:05.240 It wouldn't bother you if your partner couldn't perform good oral on you.

02:10:09.000 If they're inexperienced and they, they haven't had the practice, like sure.

02:10:12.600 I'll teach them a thing or two.

02:10:13.720 Yeah.

02:10:13.860 You can definitely teach.

02:10:14.720 Okay.

02:10:14.860 That's, that's great for you.

02:10:16.480 However, most women don't want to teach men how to fuck them.

02:10:20.160 Have you spoken to most women about that?

02:10:22.220 Most women do have to.

02:10:23.940 What makes sex so amazing is communication.

02:10:25.720 Okay, sure.

02:10:28.240 But most women want men who come pre-assembled.

02:10:32.320 How do you know?

02:10:34.480 Because it's, first off, it's self-evident.

02:10:36.900 Is it?

02:10:37.500 Yeah.

02:10:37.660 Or based off of the men that get all of this.

02:10:40.120 Women are attracted to it.

02:10:41.100 You're generalizing women and then you don't like it when we do that back to you.

02:10:44.520 Yes, I'm speaking in generalities.

02:10:46.400 I'm more than happy to generalize men also.

02:10:49.760 We're speaking in generalities here.

02:10:51.420 I don't think we should generalize anybody.

02:10:52.600 Well, I mean, if we're going to have a productive conversation, there needs to be some degree

02:10:56.260 of generalizing.

02:10:57.640 Otherwise, we can talk about, hold on, we can talk, we can talk about the dating, the dating

02:11:05.260 experiences of biracial dwarves.

02:11:09.260 I mean, yeah, exactly.

02:11:11.020 It's just like, we're going to generalize.

02:11:14.400 Otherwise, we can talk about non-binary biracial dwarves and their asexual dating for them.

02:11:21.520 I'm saying I disagree with your generalization.

02:11:24.140 I think that comes from a place of personal bias.

02:11:27.520 I don't, whoa.

02:11:28.600 That was a large bug.

02:11:30.100 Anyways, I don't think most women mind a guy who's inexperienced.

02:11:35.240 I literally think it comes down to the person.

02:11:38.360 I haven't, I, like, I've known hundreds of women in my lifetime and I've heard, I've heard

02:11:43.240 every opinion from, I want a guy who knows what he's doing to, I want a virgin and everything

02:11:47.500 in between.

02:11:47.960 So I don't think it's fair to make that generalization.

02:11:51.080 Most women would prefer men who are sexually experienced in bed and know what they're doing.

02:11:55.740 I agree.

02:11:56.300 Most, most women would find it a turnoff.

02:11:59.040 I'm, you might be willing to do it, but at some level, it's going to be a turnoff if

02:12:04.640 you have to instruct a guy on how to fuck you.

02:12:09.360 Women want men to just get it.

02:12:11.700 I'm not saying all women.

02:12:13.160 However, generally speaking, I would say like it's because women, typically when it comes

02:12:18.980 to sex, women do, there's a dom sub component to it.

02:12:22.880 Women like to like men who can lead.

02:12:25.200 Women like to be submissive in the bedroom.

02:12:29.140 Generally speaking, are there some women who are dominant and who are fine teaching and

02:12:34.140 leading in the bedroom?

02:12:35.580 Sure.

02:12:36.760 But I would say generally speaking, women want men to take charge and take the lead when it

02:12:42.080 went in the bedroom.

02:12:44.560 So you're saying.

02:12:46.340 So most women.

02:12:48.640 No, I agree.

02:12:49.560 Cause most women that I speak to, they don't want to date virgins.

02:12:52.920 They want, you know, someone who's experienced and most of the guys that get all the girls

02:12:57.980 or all the women, they're out there.

02:13:01.080 So it's fine though.

02:13:02.100 When the woman isn't experienced.

02:13:04.660 Yeah.

02:13:05.160 What is your reasoning on the, on the virgin preference?

02:13:08.200 Like why?

02:13:09.280 Because.

02:13:10.360 Low body count is one.

02:13:12.740 Well, there is no body count.

02:13:14.520 But what does that mean to you?

02:13:15.780 Men, men find low body count and sexual purity attractive.

02:13:20.300 Why?

02:13:20.960 Yeah.

02:13:21.600 There's biological reasons.

02:13:23.180 There's social reasons.

02:13:24.500 Sure.

02:13:24.700 Absolutely.

02:13:25.780 Um, so I've made a list.

02:13:28.240 So, I mean the, the chief, the chief thing, I don't think it's the, let me preface it

02:13:34.820 by saying, I don't think it's going to be the most compelling argument that I can tell

02:13:38.940 you that I don't think you're going to be like, Whoa, I'm convinced Brian.

02:13:41.760 However, I think it's probably one of the strongest things as to why men care about body count.

02:13:49.640 So aside from avoiding STDs, um, it comes down to paternity guaranteeing paternity.

02:13:59.340 So it's evolutionary psychology, biological reasons.

02:14:03.660 If a woman has 10 husbands, sorry, excuse me.

02:14:08.560 Actually, no, that's fine.

02:14:09.540 If a woman has 10 husbands and she's sleeping with all of them concurrently, who's the father

02:14:14.220 of the child that she will eventually bear?

02:14:17.380 You don't know.

02:14:19.000 Okay.

02:14:19.120 DNA test came around 40 years ago.

02:14:20.860 That doesn't undo hundreds of thousands of years of evolutionary hardwiring.

02:14:25.340 Did you know they like, if you enter into a monogamous relationship with somebody who's

02:14:30.720 not a virgin, but their past is their past.

02:14:33.000 So if you're monogamous with that person from that point onwards, you know, if she gets pregnant,

02:14:37.900 who the father is.

02:14:38.760 So that kind of becomes void.

02:14:41.380 The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior.

02:14:45.160 So if someone's previously promiscuous, they're more likely to cheat.

02:14:48.600 There's a higher likelihood of infidelity.

02:14:51.540 I just said somebody who's not a virgin because you said you prefer a virgin.

02:14:54.620 Well, what if somebody's, you know, been in long-term relationships or they've been married?

02:14:58.900 So obviously not a virgin.

02:15:00.360 Sure.

02:15:00.580 And that's more preferable than a woman who's been with 10, as is a woman who's been with

02:15:05.220 10 is more preferable than a woman who's been with 20, et cetera, et cetera.

02:15:10.240 You're allowed to have your boundaries.

02:15:11.740 That's fine.

02:15:12.380 I'm just saying like, if like, why, why is a total virgin preferable then?

02:15:17.700 Would it be, okay, so, well, it's just like, wouldn't it, here's a comparison.

02:15:24.420 Wouldn't it be preferable to date a guy who has $300,000, who makes $300,000 a year?

02:15:29.680 Wouldn't it be preferable if it was 400, 500, 600, a million, et cetera, et cetera?

02:15:35.160 So obviously the lower the body count, and that goes, that extends all the way to zero,

02:15:40.080 a.k.a.

02:15:40.460 virgin.

02:15:40.960 Is that because you see them as damaged goods every time they get a new body?

02:15:44.480 Well, there is something to, hold on.

02:15:46.680 Martin donated $100.

02:15:49.280 Thank you, Martin.

02:15:49.680 Ladies, you've got thousands of men watching right now shocked at how utterly wrong your

02:15:54.520 understanding of men is.

02:15:56.340 Your fathers and brothers completely failed you.

02:15:59.460 Elon, create a time machine so we can go back in time and slap the fuck out of these men.

02:16:05.040 I can't understand you with Elon's dick in your mouth.

02:16:07.440 Oh, wow.

02:16:08.100 Okay.

02:16:08.560 Mark Wavius.

02:16:09.200 Shots fired.

02:16:10.760 How many, how, let me see, how many.

02:16:13.400 But don't you think that perspective is dated?

02:16:15.420 What perspective?

02:16:16.160 Um, needing a woman that has a lower body count due to the fact that you have to figure

02:16:20.300 out who the father is.

02:16:21.400 Like, those are all very dated perspectives.

02:16:23.420 Yeah, because there's dating.

02:16:23.900 Why are women attracted to tall men?

02:16:26.480 I'm, I don't care about height.

02:16:28.420 Oh, my God.

02:16:29.020 It's just a preference.

02:16:30.100 I don't know.

02:16:30.760 Give me this.

02:16:32.240 Generally speaking, do most women prefer to date men taller than them?

02:16:36.180 Yes.

02:16:36.780 Most, yeah, me, no.

02:16:37.780 Why?

02:16:39.180 I don't know.

02:16:39.620 It's a preference.

02:16:40.320 It's a personal preference.

02:16:41.980 I hear your argument.

02:16:42.980 It's a protective aspect.

02:16:43.960 It's a biological aspect.

02:16:44.420 It's a, it's an evolutionary thing.

02:16:46.540 Oh, okay.

02:16:47.320 Yes.

02:16:47.800 Your, your height.

02:16:48.680 Your argument about that whole, like, there are tribes out there that literally women

02:16:52.400 do sleep with every man in the tribe.

02:16:54.180 I was just going to say that.

02:16:55.600 Because the whole tribe wants to raise the child as one.

02:16:58.360 Careful.

02:16:58.780 I was going to say that.

02:16:59.580 You're going to tread in a, if you say it's disgusting, you're going to tread danger.

02:17:03.040 Why?

02:17:03.480 It's what?

02:17:04.220 If you're, you, you were, I just thought maybe you were treading somewhere.

02:17:07.760 No, but what would it be?

02:17:08.840 What would it be if I was about to say what I was about to say?

02:17:11.060 Okay.

02:17:13.480 It's just.

02:17:14.000 It would go against a lot of traditional historical behaviors that have been.

02:17:21.200 It's not our modern day society.

02:17:22.680 It's okay for them to have done that for generations.

02:17:25.280 That's their traditions.

02:17:26.880 I.

02:17:27.120 And it's an old belief system.

02:17:29.000 Well, I don't know.

02:17:29.900 Are we in the paleolithic here?

02:17:31.940 I don't know what.

02:17:32.580 You're telling me that they can't keep their belief systems?

02:17:35.520 No.

02:17:35.760 Okay.

02:17:36.320 I was about to say, if a woman is sleeping with an entire tribe, I think that's disgusting.

02:17:40.860 Even if that's the tribal beliefs of their group and that's been staying there for hundreds

02:17:45.680 of years?

02:17:46.300 As, as a rational individual who's capable of thought, I'm, I'm entitled to, hold on,

02:17:51.360 hold on.

02:17:51.740 That would be like.

02:17:52.060 Let me finish.

02:17:52.700 I'm entitled to making judgment calls about different cultures.

02:17:56.200 That would be like ethnocentric though.

02:17:58.180 Would you be, would you feel the same way if the tribe's belief was centered around one

02:18:01.520 man sleeping with all the women in the tribe?

02:18:05.680 What's the question?

02:18:06.800 Would you still feel like it was disgusting if the genders were reversed in this situation

02:18:10.620 and the tribe was one man sleeping with all of the women in his tribe?

02:18:14.060 I'll answer that in two ways.

02:18:15.260 So first I would say women are more than capable of having the same position as me.

02:18:21.280 So if a woman was disgusted by that, I think that's totally fine.

02:18:24.300 Now there are certain biological differences in the example that you gave, uh, from a practical

02:18:31.840 point of view, I think I'm in favor of monogamy for both men and women.

02:18:36.080 I, so practically speaking, I think that would be disastrous for the tribe because whoever

02:18:42.180 that one dude is, who's fucking all the chicks, the other men in the tribe are going to fucking

02:18:47.260 kill him.

02:18:48.820 Because you're basing that off of society now.

02:18:52.780 Like you're, you're bringing like jealousy and all kinds of stuff that wasn't a thing

02:18:55.860 back then.

02:18:56.640 I think jealousy, oh, jealousy didn't exist.

02:18:59.320 I think jealousy has always been around.

02:19:01.280 No.

02:19:01.300 Okay.

02:19:01.440 Fine.

02:19:01.840 Fine.

02:19:02.340 Possibly.

02:19:02.820 But the whole reason why they did this is because they didn't, they wanted a child to

02:19:06.020 be able to have the traits of all of the men in the tribe.

02:19:10.460 And so they wanted it to be as diverse as possible.

02:19:14.080 And no man could have a specific say in anything or more than anyone else.

02:19:19.940 And so it, it, it, it's just like, it's tribe mentality.

02:19:24.300 It's, it's raising kids up.

02:19:25.940 Like in the, in the seventies when your neighbors had to watch neighborhood kids and help, you

02:19:32.020 know, quote, parent them or.

02:19:34.020 Okay.

02:19:34.380 In the Western, I don't know what some tribe in Ethiopia, I don't know what some tribe somewhere

02:19:39.760 is doing or has done.

02:19:41.620 What I can speak about is broadly speaking in the Western and Eastern world, monogamy has

02:19:47.700 been the norm, perhaps in some Muslim countries there, there's polygamy.

02:19:52.040 However, monogamy has been valued up until very recently.

02:19:57.200 You know, we had Christianity, chastity and monogamy was valued for both men and women.

02:20:03.820 So virginity, bringing it back to that has been valued for the past 2000 years in both

02:20:10.800 men and women.

02:20:11.900 And it's only until very recently where we've pretty much destroyed the social order.

02:20:18.340 So I can't speak to some tribe how, I don't know.

02:20:21.620 That's fair.

02:20:22.040 I'm just saying that's not, that's not everything.

02:20:26.040 But what was the original?

02:20:27.540 Your fact was just pretty like.

02:20:29.040 What was my fact?

02:20:30.340 It was more of his opinion of that scenario that I disregarded.

02:20:34.600 Well, I think just on a general level, I think promiscuity is disgusting.

02:20:37.960 It's gross.

02:20:39.200 I believe in monogamy.

02:20:40.880 I do that.

02:20:41.220 For my, okay, for myself, it's like the idea of sleeping with a woman who just slept with

02:20:49.480 a guy the night before to me is disgusting.

02:20:52.360 And I don't have a double standard on this.

02:20:54.460 If a woman would be disgusted sleeping with a man who just slept with another girl, I think

02:20:59.480 that's totally fine.

02:21:00.800 That's fine.

02:21:01.640 Yeah, that's fair.

02:21:02.440 But, but you can't, in order for, if a hookup culture exists, if promiscuity exists, having

02:21:10.780 a high body count exists, you, you can't object to me finding that gross.

02:21:16.520 Like, I just, well, I suppose you can, but.

02:21:21.700 I objected to your opinion on the tribe.

02:21:26.280 I didn't object to your opinion of you having a preference in your dating mannerisms.

02:21:33.520 Okay.

02:21:34.680 Yeah, I thought that what you were saying was just like, you know, that.

02:21:37.280 Hold on.

02:21:37.540 Just a second.

02:21:38.180 Just a second.

02:21:38.200 I wanted $100.

02:21:40.080 Here's why body count matters for women.

02:21:42.860 Assured paternity issues.

02:21:45.040 STI risk as receptive partner.

02:21:47.620 Oxytocin trauma.

02:21:49.320 Increased divorce likelihood and relationship dissatisfaction with increased number of partners.

02:21:55.860 Breakup trauma masculinizes women.

02:21:58.140 Then, then that's fine.

02:22:00.040 Date who you're comfortable with.

02:22:01.700 Yeah.

02:22:02.000 So, I mean.

02:22:02.420 Do what you want.

02:22:03.220 I'll go back to the, he kind of articulated a lot of the things.

02:22:06.880 So, paternity uncertainty.

02:22:09.460 So, excuse me.

02:22:10.380 Aren't we past that though?

02:22:11.780 Well, I didn't fully explain that.

02:22:13.060 But basically, men have an evolutionary reason for, that doesn't exist in women.

02:22:17.820 Because if a man has 10 wives and they all get pregnant, you know who the father is.

02:22:23.960 However, if a woman has 10 husbands and she sleeps with all of them, you can't guarantee who the father is.

02:22:30.340 Don't worry.

02:22:30.520 The screen's going to go black for a sec.

02:22:31.900 We're still alive.

02:22:33.080 The other thing, like he said, STDs.

02:22:35.280 The more promiscuous you are, the more likely you are to have or get an STD.

02:22:40.400 Vice versa for men.

02:22:41.580 Yeah.

02:22:42.040 Yes.

02:22:42.580 Because men can get.

02:22:43.520 True.

02:22:43.540 But I'm telling you why men care about body count.

02:22:46.020 Oh.

02:22:46.600 And why body count matters.

02:22:49.660 Okay.

02:22:50.100 So, you can definitively say that it's just about these disgusting factors or what you think is disgusting and whatever versus like a control aspect and wanting to mold someone into what.

02:23:00.840 It's not.

02:23:01.180 Is it, yeah, control and value.

02:23:03.380 Because I feel like that's an underlying aspect that like is hard to deny.

02:23:07.560 What you call controlling, I just call having a preference.

02:23:11.880 But based on someone who has zero experience.

02:23:15.220 Right.

02:23:15.540 So, you're taking advantage of her inexperience.

02:23:17.860 How, that's, that's not true.

02:23:22.120 How is it, how is it taking advantage of someone?

02:23:25.800 I, I don't see how that is.

02:23:30.980 Having a preference for someone with, who's, has less light, who has no STD, if we're talking about virgins, who has less likelihood of an STD, who's more capable of pair bonding.

02:23:43.680 There's a less, a lesser likelihood of infidelity.

02:23:47.220 There's a, there's a lesser likelihood of, of relationship dissatisfaction.

02:23:51.260 They've done studies on this.

02:23:52.740 The more premarital sexual partners you've had, the greater likelihood of divorce, the greater likelihood of infidelity, the, and the greater likelihood of reporting relationship dissatisfaction, marriage dissatisfaction.

02:24:04.860 But that goes for both parties, not just men.

02:24:07.460 More so for women, but yes.

02:24:08.840 I feel like this just goes back to what I said, which is exactly, do what you want, do who you want, what you're comfortable with, and let others do the same.

02:24:15.960 But I'm being called selfish for thinking everybody should just do what they want and not judge others, which I find interesting.

02:24:21.280 I think it's actually selfless to just exist in your own space and just be at peace with the world.

02:24:27.740 You know, you don't have to have an opinion about everybody else.

02:24:29.980 There are a lot of times in my life where I'll see somebody doing or saying something I disagree with, and I've found the most peace in just accepting it.

02:24:36.920 I've already been, like, released from the obligation to have a take by Marcus Aurelius.

02:24:41.000 I don't have to feel any kind of way about anybody or what they're doing, and I don't find that selfish at all.

02:24:47.920 I'm, I'm not really following.

02:24:49.840 I'm saying it's, it's interesting that we can't just all coexist and let people do what they want.

02:24:54.240 Um, like, if somebody prefers a virgin or prefers, you know, somebody with experience, that's fine.

02:25:00.500 I accept, I accept that people are promiscuous.

02:25:03.720 Yeah, then that's fine.

02:25:04.680 I accept that people are promiscuous.

02:25:06.700 We're here to have a conversation and a debate, and so we're pushing back on certain things.

02:25:10.700 Yeah.

02:25:10.840 It's not my personal opinion of how to do it.

02:25:12.340 But what I do think is unfair, if you're going to call something, like, disgusting, I think that's...

02:25:16.860 Yes, I think promiscuity is disgusting.

02:25:19.280 Okay.

02:25:19.660 Oh, my God.

02:25:21.140 So you're not promiscuous?

02:25:22.440 Yeah, so you yourself don't.

02:25:23.340 Why is he not allowed to say that, based on your, your whole theory right now?

02:25:26.360 Well, he is, but at the same time, I'm saying, I'm saying, wouldn't it bring you more peace just to not judge others?

02:25:32.820 Well, I mean, I, I don't spend my time thinking about all the people that are, um, getting herpes out there and that are, you know, destroying their ability to pair bond with future partners.

02:25:42.120 I don't really give it a whole bunch of thought outside of this podcast, but we're having a conversation about it, so I'm engaged in the conversation.

02:25:49.620 I don't spend my time, like, oh, my God, these fucking people are just fucking, like, crazy.

02:25:55.000 Like, I don't really, like, I accept that people are promiscuous.

02:25:57.960 Like, it is what it is.

02:25:59.680 Well, it's, it's not so much you, in particular, it's your, your viewer base, it's, like, they can't.

02:26:04.700 Is against promiscuity?

02:26:06.020 Good, no, no, I'm not saying you, you interrupted me.

02:26:08.740 I would like it if you could let me finish.

02:26:10.240 I'm saying they just see us as hoes, no matter what we do, when it's, like, you guys would all find a lot more peace if you just let people exist.

02:26:17.300 We're not hoes for existing.

02:26:18.940 I wouldn't take what they're saying personally, like, who knows who these people are, like, what they're going through.

02:26:23.580 You've mentioned the comments so many times.

02:26:25.340 I don't, I don't, I don't have a discussion, person, person, why are we basing this off of the comments?

02:26:29.680 Let's keep the conversation related.

02:26:31.380 I mean, the comment, the people in the chat might be, like, talking about, like, biracial towards you.

02:26:36.640 I don't know.

02:26:36.960 I just think it's a greater indicator of, like, where we are, like, societally, is that everybody is really happy to bring everyone else down.

02:26:45.980 Don't base it off of this narrow.

02:26:47.920 Hold on, hold on just a second.

02:26:50.540 As the female receptive partner, you are 47% more likely to catch chesty eyes.

02:26:56.400 The total skin area and thinness of the vaginal walls is far more susceptible to disease than is the penile skin.

02:27:04.040 Do you not understand science and biology?

02:27:07.040 Or is that too patriarchal?

02:27:09.280 Source?

02:27:10.020 Are you a doctor?

02:27:12.160 I mean...

02:27:13.540 That sounds like some made-up numbers.

02:27:16.100 I'm going to need a source.

02:27:16.960 If you can provide me with a source, I'll believe you.

02:27:18.680 Mark Wavius, I guess she's asking for a source.

02:27:21.620 Okay, who was speaking?

02:27:23.060 I apologize.

02:27:23.480 Oh, I was just saying, like, I wouldn't, like, take this narrow group of people and compare that to society as a whole.

02:27:34.340 I mean, that's...

02:27:35.680 This is a small, like...

02:27:37.140 I'm just going based off of my experiences.

02:27:38.880 There's a whole world.

02:27:39.660 Like, my entire life, it's like, I've just wanted to exist and make friends and have a good time.

02:27:45.180 And it's, like, over and over and over again, I'm just, I'm faced with this judgment just for being a woman.

02:27:52.260 And I'm not even a promiscuous woman.

02:27:54.200 Could it be related to your OnlyFans?

02:27:55.900 Before that, too.

02:27:56.840 As a child, I'm saying, like, starting from, like, age 12, I want to say, is when it started.

02:28:01.920 It's the realest shit all the time.

02:28:03.060 All right.

02:28:03.920 You started what?

02:28:06.000 Started...

02:28:06.520 You were being slut-shamed at 12 years old.

02:28:08.840 As a 12-year-old virgin, yes.

02:28:10.360 It's, like, automatically they see a woman and their first thought is, oh, she's a hoe.

02:28:15.620 That's not my first thought when I see a woman.

02:28:17.280 I'm not saying it's yours.

02:28:18.260 I'm saying that's a lot of people because they've been conditioned to just think negatively of women without getting to know them.

02:28:23.980 But if you're okay with yourself and the choices that you decide to make in life, you shouldn't be concerned what anyone else thinks of you.

02:28:30.460 Like, be okay with yourself and be okay with who you are.

02:28:33.280 And who cares what anyone else thinks?

02:28:35.700 The people that are supposed to be in your life, you will draw those type of people.

02:28:40.760 The people that, like, you know, are giving you a hard time or you're getting that negative...

02:28:44.620 They're going to be gone.

02:28:45.340 You're right.

02:28:45.820 It don't matter what you preach.

02:28:46.900 Do what you preach.

02:28:48.200 You're right, and that's true.

02:28:49.140 But I'm saying for the sake of discussion, I think it is interesting and sad seeing how so many people treat each other.

02:28:55.480 I think...

02:28:56.040 War is bad.

02:28:57.360 Yeah.

02:28:58.080 Poverty is bad.

02:28:59.380 Yeah, I know.

02:28:59.860 Starving children is bad.

02:29:01.340 It won't ever change, but neither will promiscuity, neither will hookup culture.

02:29:04.820 And here we are discussing it.

02:29:06.660 I think it's not...

02:29:07.420 Things that will be static forever.

02:29:08.500 Yeah, I think it's just natural for people to have opinions on things and have beliefs.

02:29:13.000 Oh, hold on just a sec.

02:29:13.880 Martin donated $100.

02:29:14.600 Thank you, Mark Wavius.

02:29:16.300 Brian, do you possess the evidence that I am a Mensa member and a team research leader at a think tank in Tennessee?

02:29:23.120 I have countless published studies and white papers on these topics.

02:29:27.080 He also owns, like, 30 Quiznos, by the way.

02:29:29.980 Oh, cool.

02:29:30.600 That, I mean, that's, like, should...

02:29:33.080 Talk to me when you own 40.

02:29:34.480 I mean, that should do something for his credibility.

02:29:36.420 He owns, like, a shit ton of Quiznos, so...

02:29:38.460 He can talk to me when he owns 40.

02:29:39.560 Free sandwiches.

02:29:39.920 All right.

02:29:40.120 Free sandwiches.

02:29:41.020 Mark Wavius, you need to expand your franchise ownership.

02:29:45.420 Okay.

02:29:45.780 So, here, let's...

02:29:50.140 By the way, Eric, that was a very good little hide there of the Twitch overlay.

02:29:54.140 Well done.

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02:30:22.820 You know, YouTube, demonetization, all that.

02:30:24.680 So, just, like, a really easy way to support the show if you don't want to, like, you know,

02:30:28.320 super chat or anything like that.

02:30:29.800 Thank you.

02:30:30.060 Oh, my God.

02:30:30.620 Oh, my God.

02:30:31.680 The Twitch followers are on fire.

02:30:34.280 Who was that?

02:30:34.980 Who?

02:30:35.720 Oh, shit.

02:30:36.260 Sorry, I missed it.

02:30:36.940 Definitely a hetero.

02:30:37.740 Thank you for the Prime.

02:30:39.280 Oh, my God.

02:30:40.680 Super squishy.

02:30:41.620 Thank you so much.

02:30:42.240 Oh, my God.

02:30:42.940 You guys are on fire.

02:30:43.980 Thank you so much.

02:30:45.640 Okay.

02:30:46.540 Thank you, guys.

02:30:47.700 Okay.

02:30:48.060 So, body count, hmm?

02:30:51.620 Word?

02:30:52.940 What word?

02:30:54.620 Exactly.

02:30:55.880 What word?

02:30:56.200 Huh?

02:30:56.640 Huh?

02:30:58.840 Do what you want.

02:30:59.840 I will.

02:31:01.300 I will stand by that.

02:31:02.580 Let me do something.

02:31:03.540 Oh, you wanted to come in?

02:31:04.680 Go ahead.

02:31:04.880 Oh, I'm just saying body count should be discussed between your partners, and if the person objects,

02:31:09.500 do not continue to engage, because it's going to create further conflict down the line.

02:31:13.720 If you are somebody that wants less, c'est la vie.

02:31:16.740 If you are somebody that does not care about past history, do understand, because you mentioned,

02:31:22.900 what was, you used a specific term of connection.

02:31:25.820 Pair bonding.

02:31:26.380 Pair bonding.

02:31:27.020 Yep.

02:31:28.420 Study that.

02:31:29.100 Just, I would highly encourage people that don't know what pair bonding is to study it

02:31:33.580 just a little bit, because no matter your sex, it can affect your future relationships.

02:31:39.440 Oh, so you're kind of agreeing.

02:31:41.220 The more sexual partners you've had, the lower your ability to pair bond with future partners.

02:31:48.360 If you're uneducated.

02:31:49.760 What does that mean?

02:31:50.560 Just connect?

02:31:51.600 No, would you?

02:31:52.920 Well, I mean, an easier way to look at it would be the ability to bond and pair with

02:32:00.100 someone and to fall in love with them.

02:32:02.600 Oh.

02:32:03.160 It's emotional attachment.

02:32:04.400 Emotional attachment, yeah.

02:32:05.600 And this can occur whether you're a male or female, or spectrum-wise.

02:32:09.580 The more partners you do have, psychology would say that it does make it more difficult for

02:32:16.520 you to bond with a singular individual, um, due to your experiences and how you perceive

02:32:23.900 your partner.

02:32:26.080 Are you saying you do agree with that?

02:32:27.920 I do.

02:32:28.520 I do agree with pair bonding.

02:32:29.520 I think it, the more partners you have, it does make it more difficult for you to form,

02:32:33.140 um, longevity within your relationships.

02:32:37.060 I don't think that overarching body count matters too much, but psychology would tend to disagree

02:32:44.840 in some aspects, and I can't argue with, I study, I can't argue with psychology necessarily.

02:32:53.200 Yeah, I mean, there's, I guess I'll add one thing, there's also this concept, and I think

02:32:58.420 it typically is, I suppose it could happen to men, sort of, but it would be a different

02:33:05.100 term, I guess, but there's this concept called alpha widow, where once you've hooked up

02:33:11.900 or slept with or been in a relationship with a certain tier of man, a certain attractiveness

02:33:19.120 of man, a guy who fucks you just right, it's going to be really hard to pair bond with a

02:33:27.540 guy who doesn't match up to that.

02:33:31.120 And here's where women get in trouble on this and men don't.

02:33:34.100 As we already discussed, it's much easier for women to get laid than it is for men.

02:33:38.180 So, here's where women can get in trouble on this.

02:33:41.700 An average woman can sleep with a guy who's of a higher status than her, who's more wealthy

02:33:48.660 than her, who is more physically attractive than her, because men will sleep down, yeah,

02:33:55.060 men will sleep down, whether that's socioeconomic status, whether that's looks, because we welcome

02:34:00.820 the easy access to sex.

02:34:02.560 So, the difference there between men and women is, as a woman, for you to want to sleep with

02:34:11.080 a guy, even for a one-night stand, he has to be at least attractive enough physically for

02:34:17.020 you to be in a relationship with him.

02:34:18.900 He might not be relationship material, but he has to at least be physically attractive enough

02:34:24.780 for you to sleep with him.

02:34:26.680 Whereas men, we will sleep with women who we would never be in a relationship with based

02:34:32.160 solely on their physical attractiveness, but we welcome the easy access to, not all men,

02:34:38.400 but men welcome the easy access to sex, so they'll sleep with a woman that they would

02:34:41.760 never be in a relationship with based solely on their physical attractiveness.

02:34:46.020 Don't you have a diagram that you believe shows this accurately?

02:34:48.220 Uh, a diagram.

02:34:51.320 It shows you.

02:34:51.760 Well, there's hypergamy.

02:34:53.520 I don't know if I have a diagram on this, but basically.

02:34:56.400 I thought you had a, I've watched one podcast.

02:34:59.560 I'm not sure.

02:35:00.160 I'm not going to pull anything up right now unless you can maybe more precisely tell me

02:35:04.400 what the diagram is, but, so, as a woman, if you hook up with a really top-tier guy in

02:35:11.780 terms of physical attractiveness, you're not, like, when, here's the thing.

02:35:17.200 And let's say you're a seven or a six.

02:35:20.040 You could, like, hook up with a dude who's an eight, right?

02:35:23.800 He might not ever commit to you.

02:35:25.360 That's where women get fuck-zoned by the guy.

02:35:28.480 He might just want you for a one-night stand.

02:35:30.320 He might just sleep with you a couple times, string you along.

02:35:34.040 That's where situationships typically play out.

02:35:39.840 Then, when you look at the guy who's actually on your level, who's prepared to commit to you,

02:35:44.200 who's prepared to be in a relationship with you, who's prepared to marry you, even though

02:35:48.940 he's actually your looks equivalent, your socioeconomic equivalent, you're, you think

02:35:54.520 you're settling for him.

02:35:56.660 Now, luckily, I think most of the girls at this table, none of you considered yourself

02:36:00.300 to be tens, but we've had girls come on the show who, they say, I think I'm a ten.

02:36:06.520 Now, I don't know where that stems from.

02:36:08.200 Maybe they've been able to hook up with really attractive guys that never committed to them,

02:36:11.920 but that's where, again, that's where women get into trouble.

02:36:14.620 They're able to hook up with guys of a certain status or certain physical attractiveness,

02:36:18.340 and then they think, oh, that guy was a ten who I hooked up with.

02:36:22.020 Thus, I must be a ten too, but that's not how it works.

02:36:26.260 So then, you look, let's say you're a seven, you look at the guy who's actually, in reality,

02:36:30.480 a seven, you think you're settling for him, even though that's your looks equivalent.

02:36:35.100 That's your looks match.

02:36:37.540 I agree, yeah.

02:36:39.500 You're shaking your head.

02:36:40.400 I'm just saying, the whole concept of looks being so predominant on the scale system,

02:36:47.900 like this arbitrary scale, it's so, like, looks are in the eye of the beholder.

02:36:54.360 There's so many people that have separate, different preferences.

02:36:59.040 Sorry, they really like interrupting you, by the way.

02:37:01.540 Thank you, man.

02:37:02.360 I'm a top 1% earner.

02:37:05.080 Body count matters to a point.

02:37:07.160 I have dated girls who say under 5 and 1's over 40 partners.

02:37:11.820 The past isn't as important as the present.

02:37:14.360 If they are still wanting to be in a whole phase, then hard pass.

02:37:18.400 Brian, you are the man.

02:37:20.460 Cool.

02:37:20.860 There you go.

02:37:21.860 Yeah.

02:37:22.000 Thanks.

02:37:22.420 I have a hope, please.

02:37:23.440 Very well eloquent.

02:37:24.620 Thank you, Nick.

02:37:25.260 I like that.

02:37:25.400 But I would reiterate again, I appreciate your donation.

02:37:30.560 Past behavior is a great predictor of future behavior.

02:37:34.440 So, if you were promiscuous in the past, the likelihood that I, you're more likely to cheat.

02:37:41.560 That is so intrusive.

02:37:43.540 That's not true.

02:37:44.200 People can change.

02:37:45.460 Okay, let me ask you guys a question.

02:37:47.480 Let's say you found out that you're talking to a guy, and you found out that in all his past relationships,

02:37:56.220 keyword, past relationships, he cheated on every single one of his partners.

02:38:01.980 It's his past, right?

02:38:03.180 Should it, is that not going to be part of the calculus for you?

02:38:07.640 Yeah.

02:38:09.120 Like, I agreed, like, the cheating thing is a red flag, but, like, for instance, I've hooked up with more people than I'd like to,

02:38:15.720 but I'm a totally different person now.

02:38:17.340 Like, I was on drugs, doing all this crazy shit.

02:38:20.080 Sobriety.

02:38:20.460 Give me back the ring.

02:38:21.760 No, no, no, wait.

02:38:22.580 Give me back the ring, Ava.

02:38:24.000 Wait, wait a sec.

02:38:24.920 But I'm just saying, like, I've hooked up with only a few people in the past couple years.

02:38:28.680 Most of what I did was when I was a different person.

02:38:30.940 Mm-hmm.

02:38:31.820 So, like, I think it's sad that you would judge me on who I was when I'm a totally different person now, you know?

02:38:39.000 I agree.

02:38:39.540 Sure.

02:38:39.920 Well, okay.

02:38:40.460 So, certainly, it's, if you had to choose between two women, one who is currently promiscuous,

02:38:47.520 and one who is no longer promiscuous but was promiscuous in her past, the choice is obvious, right?

02:38:54.080 However, would the, would it be?

02:38:56.480 Are you trying to state, like, the lesser of two evils opportunity?

02:38:59.800 But you said, you didn't say promiscuous, you said cheating.

02:39:02.160 If somebody cheated on all of their past partners, that's very different.

02:39:06.740 That's boundaries broken.

02:39:07.640 Yeah, that's, like, loyalty and, like, other, like, characteristics.

02:39:10.400 More, I think you were saying that.

02:39:11.020 Right, but you're looking at their past.

02:39:13.200 Yeah, but you said, you said cheating.

02:39:14.800 I thought we were talking about promiscuity.

02:39:16.560 You said promiscuity is a great indicator for how they will be in their future, but then

02:39:20.420 you changed it.

02:39:21.120 You flipped the script, and you said, what if they cheated?

02:39:22.980 That's a little different.

02:39:23.920 Past, past behavior is a great predictor for future behavior.

02:39:27.640 Sure, that's true, but you didn't, you didn't say promiscuity, you said specifically cheating.

02:39:32.680 If somebody specifically cheated on all of their partners, then yes, I would assume that

02:39:36.840 that's a habit of theirs.

02:39:37.720 But you can make the same argument, well, it was my past, I made mistakes, I'm a different,

02:39:42.620 I'm a new person, I've changed.

02:39:44.460 Sure, you could.

02:39:44.820 Anyone can change.

02:39:45.560 Would you believe them?

02:39:46.380 Or would you have reservations?

02:39:48.540 I wouldn't believe them.

02:39:49.880 It would be a difficult conversation that we would have to have.

02:39:52.360 Right, and I realize these two things are not entirely the same, but you're looking

02:39:57.740 at their past, you're making a judgment call on their past behavior, and you're thinking,

02:40:02.260 because of that past behavior, what does that say about them potentially moving forward?

02:40:08.600 Well, promiscuity doesn't imply that they'd be so willing to break a boundary.

02:40:12.140 If they were promiscuous, fine, but if they were cheating, then that's a boundary broken,

02:40:15.700 as opposed to them living a single and consensual life.

02:40:20.340 Agreed.

02:40:20.780 So I don't think that's quite fair.

02:40:23.240 If they're promiscuous in their past, sure, you can have your reservations, you can be

02:40:29.360 wary, but I think it's a lot different if they're cheating, then they're openly showing

02:40:32.840 you that they've repeatedly broken a specific person's boundaries.

02:40:36.120 If they're promiscuous in their past, I don't think that's necessarily to say, it's not an

02:40:41.040 indicator that they'll cheat on you, is what I'm saying.

02:40:43.160 It's a totally different subject.

02:40:48.620 Word.

02:40:50.580 I got to pull this up really quick.

02:40:54.500 Yo, David, thank you to the 50 man.

02:40:56.020 A key that opens many locks is better than the lock that opens up to many keys.

02:40:59.960 It's been about five years since I've considered dating.

02:41:03.020 I feel like I'd marry anyone who's just sensible at this point.

02:41:06.060 And last, where do I send job inquiry?

02:41:10.560 Are you talking about working for whatever?

02:41:15.060 BrianAtWhatever.com.

02:41:16.120 Thank you.

02:41:16.500 If it's been so long since you've dated anybody and it's likely because you think everybody

02:41:20.680 is like us and promiscuous, you're looking in the wrong places.

02:41:23.860 Delete social media.

02:41:24.680 Get off Instagram.

02:41:25.480 Get off Pornhub.

02:41:26.260 Get off Reddit.

02:41:27.100 Get off the internet.

02:41:27.980 Get off OnlyFans.

02:41:28.700 Go.

02:41:29.060 Get off OnlyFans.

02:41:29.960 I tell people on my OnlyFans, people have come to me and been like, I'm addicted to you.

02:41:34.060 I'm addicted.

02:41:34.680 I can't stop.

02:41:35.340 And I've told them, leave.

02:41:36.640 Or people who have told me, like, I would like to find an actual relationship.

02:41:39.320 I tell them, leave.

02:41:40.720 Just because I'm doing it doesn't mean you have to support what I'm doing.

02:41:43.760 Get off social media.

02:41:45.260 For God's sake, go.

02:41:47.200 Go to a, join a yoga class.

02:41:48.680 Go to the beach.

02:41:49.780 Join any kind of extracurricular.

02:41:51.880 Meet people in person.

02:41:53.500 You are not going to find somebody long term on the internet like this.

02:41:57.600 You are not.

02:41:58.360 Mine was Bumble.

02:41:59.960 Okay.

02:42:00.380 I found the love of my life.

02:42:02.040 Minority versus majority.

02:42:03.040 I mean, most people meet online.

02:42:05.140 The men who think all women are like us, I strongly recommend you find somebody innocent.

02:42:09.180 Most people that are 50 meet their partners.

02:42:11.600 Okay.

02:42:12.060 So, question?

02:42:13.540 Yeah, we're talking about, yeah.

02:42:15.700 Specifically when it comes to dating.

02:42:17.020 Into the mic.

02:42:17.640 Well, that's the type of girl then.

02:42:18.780 It's not the platform that they're using.

02:42:20.500 The men who think we're all hoes, though, it's like, okay, if you want to find somebody genuine.

02:42:23.840 Bro, you're really caught up on this.

02:42:25.240 And I'm just saying, if you want to, if you want, if it's been five years and you've had

02:42:28.320 no luck with somebody, it could be that you're, you're looking in the wrong places and maybe

02:42:32.520 it's not, maybe it's not the women's fault.

02:42:34.340 Maybe you're not putting yourself out there.

02:42:37.660 Question for you guys, since you guys do OnlyFans.

02:42:39.880 Do you guys do solo content?

02:42:42.880 BG?

02:42:43.380 What do you guys do?

02:42:44.060 I do anything and everything.

02:42:46.460 Avery?

02:42:48.220 I do.

02:42:49.120 Can you scoot the mic that way a little bit?

02:42:50.860 This way?

02:42:51.680 Yeah, perfect.

02:42:52.800 I have done a little bit of everything.

02:42:58.240 Orgies?

02:42:59.460 No.

02:42:59.780 Yes.

02:42:59.940 No, I've done that.

02:43:01.200 You've done orgies?

02:43:01.800 With girls.

02:43:02.620 With chicks?

02:43:03.400 Yes, with chicks.

02:43:04.240 Okay.

02:43:04.640 What about you?

02:43:06.680 Like, what kind of content is on your OnlyFans?

02:43:09.300 BG, solo?

02:43:10.920 I've got BG, solo, girl, girl, boy, girl.

02:43:14.420 That's the same thing.

02:43:15.100 I just, never mind.

02:43:16.040 I explained it.

02:43:16.680 What's that fucking closed nightclub in New York?

02:43:21.500 CBGB?

02:43:22.240 What is that?

02:43:22.700 Yeah.

02:43:23.620 Oh, okay.

02:43:24.940 Fucking hold on to those.

02:43:27.480 All right.

02:43:28.940 So, BG?

02:43:32.420 Yeah.

02:43:32.760 With your partner or just like random?

02:43:33.980 With my partner.

02:43:35.040 And we've also done videos with other couples that do OF.

02:43:38.600 We've done like side-by-side stuff.

02:43:40.180 Sure.

02:43:40.720 Okay.

02:43:41.320 And how long have you guys been doing OnlyFans?

02:43:44.520 I think coming up on two years?

02:43:47.200 A year.

02:43:48.000 A year.

02:43:48.760 A year.

02:43:49.520 Okay.

02:43:49.960 Have any of you done like traditional adult content or just OnlyFans?

02:43:54.040 Just OnlyFans.

02:43:54.520 Just OnlyFans.

02:43:55.560 Okay.

02:43:55.860 Not like corn, so to speak.

02:43:58.880 I mean, stuff of mine has been leaked and I've let it stay up there because it brings good

02:44:02.200 press in, but no, not of my own accord.

02:44:04.920 Okay.

02:44:05.860 So, question.

02:44:07.960 How much money do you guys make per month?

02:44:10.840 Enough for at least two hot dogs.

02:44:13.160 What the fuck?

02:44:14.340 Give us a range.

02:44:17.960 No.

02:44:19.040 Come on.

02:44:19.800 Mm-mm.

02:44:20.140 It's bad juju.

02:44:21.380 It's good juju.

02:44:22.500 Mm-mm.

02:44:23.060 No.

02:44:23.640 Mm-mm.

02:44:24.020 What about you, Avery?

02:44:24.760 Mm-mm.

02:44:25.440 I should have started with Avery.

02:44:26.580 Yeah, because everyone knows I'm the one that spills.

02:44:29.380 No.

02:44:30.000 Avery.

02:44:30.700 Let's hear it.

02:44:31.720 It's so all over the place, though.

02:44:33.460 That's the thing.

02:44:34.160 Like, it changes.

02:44:34.680 Average.

02:44:35.280 No.

02:44:36.360 How much do you make in a year?

02:44:37.380 Six figures.

02:44:38.640 Could you pay someone's tuition?

02:44:39.760 Mm-mm.

02:44:40.300 Here in Santa Barbara?

02:44:41.120 Do you guys make more than six figures?

02:44:44.040 Yeah.

02:44:44.820 Yeah.

02:44:44.940 A year.

02:44:45.540 A year.

02:44:46.180 Mm-mm.

02:44:47.660 Yeah.

02:44:48.520 Do you make more than six figures a year?

02:44:50.320 It's bad juju.

02:44:51.140 Wait, wait.

02:44:51.480 What's more than?

02:44:52.160 Oh, wait, wait.

02:44:52.720 Sorry.

02:44:53.080 I'll tell you how much I make on OnlyFans.

02:44:55.660 You mean how much she makes?

02:44:57.520 Wait.

02:44:58.000 Oh, yeah.

02:44:58.300 You have one.

02:44:59.000 No, it's kiki.

02:44:59.760 OnlyFans.com slash whatever.

02:45:01.420 That's not you.

02:45:02.180 That's kiki.

02:45:02.740 How much does kiki?

02:45:03.420 Yeah, but I'm the pimp.

02:45:03.920 It's up to if kiki wants to tell us.

02:45:05.660 I'm running that shit.

02:45:06.400 You're the pimp.

02:45:07.140 You want to self-identify as a pimp?

02:45:09.600 Huh?

02:45:09.880 Well, I'm thinking too much about that.

02:45:12.700 I'm just curious.

02:45:14.360 So I'll reveal how much I make on OnlyFans if you guys reveal how much you guys make.

02:45:17.880 I'm good.

02:45:18.080 I don't care to know.

02:45:20.300 Me and kiki are killing it, son.

02:45:23.200 Killing it.

02:45:23.480 You have enough to buy three hot dogs?

02:45:25.240 What the fuck?

02:45:26.800 What's the hell with you and hot dogs?

02:45:28.200 I don't know.

02:45:28.660 Have you two ever had any other job?

02:45:33.640 I have bartenders.

02:45:34.540 I know you do.

02:45:35.460 I'm literally a pianist.

02:45:37.080 How long?

02:45:37.400 That's amazing.

02:45:38.260 A penis?

02:45:38.940 What?

02:45:39.220 I'm a pianist.

02:45:40.420 Oh.

02:45:41.080 How's your Chopin?

02:45:42.320 How's my what?

02:45:43.180 My Chopin?

02:45:44.220 Not as good as my WCA.

02:45:45.880 Do you like perform?

02:45:47.220 I used to.

02:45:48.020 Oh, how cool.

02:45:48.540 Not so much anymore since the pandemic, but I did.

02:45:51.600 OnlyFans, I will say my favorite purchase is I got myself a grand piano.

02:45:55.600 Wow.

02:45:56.300 It's lit.

02:45:57.660 That's really cool.

02:45:59.200 Okay.

02:45:59.920 So let me do some super chats here, guys.

02:46:04.580 Sorry, I'm going to get caught up on the super chats.

02:46:06.800 All right.

02:46:07.320 Thank you, man, for the 50.

02:46:09.120 Edie, let me have you read these.

02:46:10.800 Let's hear that lovely diction voice of yours.

02:46:14.000 Go ahead.

02:46:14.160 If that crazy government cheese pizza watching blood challenged Brian, then she lost.

02:46:21.760 She ran away.

02:46:22.700 These ladies say you have to bring out their feminine energy, but would dump a man if he

02:46:27.600 showed up to the date in a dress and said the same.

02:46:31.200 Based.

02:46:32.680 True.

02:46:34.060 Word.

02:46:34.920 Okay.

02:46:35.560 They're still so hung up on her.

02:46:37.860 Well, this came in a while ago.

02:46:39.500 Yo, continue eating.

02:46:41.320 I don't.

02:46:41.920 Can we go down the line?

02:46:42.740 No, you got it.

02:46:43.680 You're good.

02:46:44.120 You're good.

02:46:44.920 Young lady in the white top, please move to the right side of the table because I'm about

02:46:49.180 to rain fire on the red-haired side of the table.

02:46:52.220 The red-haired side?

02:46:52.780 The red-haired side?

02:46:53.660 Yeah.

02:46:54.380 We're called the red-haired side now.

02:46:55.720 Oh, I love that.

02:46:58.360 Okay.

02:46:59.100 Oh, I think.

02:46:59.580 Oh, shit.

02:47:00.120 There are so many opportunities for asteroids.

02:47:02.000 Fuck.

02:47:03.020 Hold on.

02:47:05.620 What is that?

02:47:06.380 Oh, is that?

02:47:08.980 It's coming right for us.

02:47:10.180 I thought your monitor broke.

02:47:11.300 There you go.

02:47:11.840 Boom.

02:47:12.740 Okay.

02:47:15.500 Thank you, Her and Men.

02:47:16.340 Appreciate it.

02:47:17.460 Sunny, thank you for the hundred.

02:47:19.780 Avery, why don't you read this one?

02:47:21.840 Men and women are not the same when it comes to sex and relationships.

02:47:25.360 This is a fact you women have to accept.

02:47:27.680 No amount of feminism is going to change that.

02:47:30.000 As a woman, you should value yourself more.

02:47:31.820 Women control access to sex, so therefore they bear responsibility.

02:47:37.460 Word.

02:47:37.940 Yo, Sunny, thank you for the hundred, man.

02:47:43.700 Appreciate it.

02:47:44.580 Yo, James Wilson, merci beaucoup pour le Canadien 140.

02:47:48.960 Thank you, man.

02:47:50.400 This is...

02:47:51.060 Go ahead.

02:47:52.360 Me?

02:47:52.580 Yeah, they want to hear more from you.

02:47:54.600 Why?

02:47:55.400 So soon.

02:47:57.140 Okay.

02:47:57.460 So soon.

02:47:58.780 This is a big issue with my friends.

02:48:01.600 I'm the only sexually active man where all my dudes and they can't even get a date.

02:48:06.820 They don't understand that because I'm 6'2 and confident and slightly attractive that

02:48:11.480 I'm the only one getting dates and laid.

02:48:13.340 Women don't get it.

02:48:14.200 Yeah, so this is, excuse me, getting tongue-tied here.

02:48:17.080 This is in response to our conversation where we were talking about men struggling to get

02:48:23.400 laid and you, I don't know if I convinced you yet, but you said that men have it easy

02:48:30.420 when it comes to getting laid.

02:48:31.400 I forgot exactly what you said.

02:48:32.540 Do you want to...

02:48:33.460 I just said that I don't think they have it as hard as people make it seem or like,

02:48:37.940 I don't know.

02:48:38.660 I think they have it harder than people make it seem.

02:48:42.160 Most men have it harder.

02:48:42.840 I don't be really scary.

02:48:44.160 I don't know.

02:48:45.140 Like, I don't know.

02:48:46.760 I most men that I know that are sexually active are having sex, so...

02:48:53.540 Well, most of the men you know that are sexually active are having sex.

02:48:57.300 They're not lacking.

02:48:58.340 I mean, that makes sense to me, but...

02:49:00.240 Yeah, but they're not like struggling.

02:49:02.060 Like, they just go to the club and take a girl home.

02:49:06.380 Let me ask you, are you on any dating apps?

02:49:08.260 No.

02:49:09.560 You're single though, correct?

02:49:11.200 Yeah.

02:49:12.020 What percentage of men would you...

02:49:14.380 Do you get DMs from men on Instagram?

02:49:17.200 How many DMs a day do you get?

02:49:19.600 I don't know, because I'm not on social media like that, so I don't...

02:49:23.160 Give me a range.

02:49:24.320 I don't know.

02:49:26.320 I don't know.

02:49:27.000 Like, maybe...

02:49:27.820 I don't know.

02:49:29.400 Depends.

02:49:29.840 If I'm on social media, maybe like 10.

02:49:33.100 I don't know.

02:49:33.760 A day?

02:49:34.740 Yeah.

02:49:35.540 I guess.

02:49:35.880 Okay.

02:49:36.520 Most men won't even get that in their entire lives.

02:49:41.220 Most men won't even get a DM in their entire lives.

02:49:45.700 How many of those men...

02:49:46.900 Okay, of the 10 men that message you a day, how many of them do you respond to?

02:49:52.000 Zero?

02:49:52.960 No, I'm actually really like...

02:49:54.860 I respond to any...

02:49:55.720 I'm not going to respond like, as in like, entertain actually meeting up.

02:50:00.580 Sure.

02:50:00.900 That's what I mean.

02:50:01.560 Oh, then I don't really like entertain anybody, but I'm nice.

02:50:04.240 Like, if someone compliments me, like I'll respond to that.

02:50:06.820 And when I say the men who DM you, I'm speaking specifically of the men that are messaging

02:50:11.680 you, where it's kind of clear that there's perhaps a romantic interest.

02:50:16.120 How many of those do you entertain?

02:50:19.520 None.

02:50:21.700 Okay.

02:50:23.020 So they're...

02:50:25.820 What?

02:50:26.780 Who here's on the dating app currently?

02:50:30.120 Christian Mingle, I'm assuming?

02:50:31.780 Me.

02:50:33.200 Avery.

02:50:33.840 Yeah, you know me.

02:50:34.940 Oh.

02:50:35.500 You?

02:50:35.900 You're on Christian Mingle?

02:50:36.900 No.

02:50:37.460 Well, you've got a thing or something.

02:50:41.680 Of the men you see on dating apps, how many of them do you swipe no on?

02:50:46.240 What percentage?

02:50:47.200 Oh, gosh.

02:50:49.640 I mean, it's...

02:50:51.060 I think it's 60...

02:50:54.260 No.

02:50:55.160 70% no.

02:50:56.660 70% no?

02:50:57.500 Okay.

02:50:59.800 Anyone else on dating apps?

02:51:01.940 I had hinge.

02:51:04.240 What was the percentage of men that you...

02:51:05.900 Swiped no or...

02:51:09.940 Yeah, swiped no on.

02:51:12.660 What was my necklace?

02:51:13.520 No, I'm itching myself.

02:51:14.520 Oh, okay.

02:51:17.560 I'd have to say like 85% would be a no.

02:51:22.340 Okay.

02:51:22.620 So, you only found like 15% of men attractive.

02:51:26.080 Yeah, I mean...

02:51:26.660 No, I found a lot of men attractive.

02:51:28.980 It's just I would swipe left if...

02:51:31.340 Because, you know, Hinge has the prompts and stuff.

02:51:33.380 So, if I didn't like what they said in the prompt, then I'd just be like, no.

02:51:37.300 Even if it was like...

02:51:37.980 He was like a 10, super hot.

02:51:39.780 I'd just be like, no.

02:51:40.560 Because certain prompts just did not sit right with me.

02:51:44.240 Yeah.

02:51:44.460 Yeah, I feel that.

02:51:45.480 Mm-hmm.

02:51:46.980 Okay.

02:51:50.180 Is this proving a point?

02:51:52.880 Well, I'm trying to think how I'm going to...

02:51:55.300 Because still, what I said, though, was, okay, if it's so hard for men to get girls or whatever,

02:52:02.280 then how do they always find someone to cheat with?

02:52:04.760 And I know...

02:52:05.280 But who is they?

02:52:06.100 Like, majority...

02:52:07.120 I don't know.

02:52:07.600 Is there statistics on how many men cheat?

02:52:11.740 How many men are you referring to in your own life?

02:52:15.160 That I've seen cheat?

02:52:16.200 Yeah.

02:52:18.480 I don't know.

02:52:19.380 Like, a lot of them.

02:52:21.000 I've seen a lot of men in my...

02:52:23.600 That I've seen throughout life cheat, but I've also seen a lot that haven't.

02:52:27.680 I don't know if I've ever seen a man that...

02:52:29.900 And I've also seen a lot of women who cheat.

02:52:31.720 And a lot...

02:52:32.500 I know a lot of women who don't.

02:52:33.980 So, it's like...

02:52:34.900 I feel like both sides, there's a lot.

02:52:36.700 Okay.

02:52:37.100 So, you think it's kind of easy for guys to get laid, or it's not as hard as people are

02:52:41.900 leading you on.

02:52:43.340 Yeah.

02:52:43.600 The reality is, most men are invisible to most women.

02:52:47.060 Most women can sleep with most men.

02:52:49.320 Most men cannot sleep with most women.

02:52:52.020 Women sleep with who they want.

02:52:53.800 Men sleep with who they can.

02:52:55.020 Okay.

02:52:55.860 I mean, I guess...

02:52:56.880 Here, Eric, can you pull up that?

02:52:58.040 There's an infographic that shows the discrepancy between...

02:53:01.980 It's in the infographics folder.

02:53:03.940 Here, let me...

02:53:05.340 I think it's the frequency, the sex frequency one from the Washington Post.

02:53:09.840 We've pulled it up a bunch of times.

02:53:11.560 Maybe this is...

02:53:12.760 Maybe that was what I was referring to earlier.

02:53:15.080 So, y'all know men who do not cheat?

02:53:18.800 I don't cheat.

02:53:19.860 What's up?

02:53:22.140 Sheet.

02:53:22.780 You better be loyal to Avery.

02:53:24.340 What's that?

02:53:24.720 You better be loyal to Avery.

02:53:25.900 Or you just think they don't cheat.

02:53:28.280 You actually know they don't cheat, or you just think they don't cheat?

02:53:31.420 You said you don't cheat.

02:53:33.960 Have you ever cheated before?

02:53:35.520 No.

02:53:36.440 Have any of your friends ever cheated that you know of?

02:53:41.060 Where you could have said something?

02:53:44.520 Said something to who?

02:53:46.140 My loyalty is to my friends, not my friend's girlfriend.

02:53:48.620 Right, but do you support your friend cheating?

02:53:50.360 No.

02:53:51.720 But, honestly, I don't think...

02:53:53.860 I don't think I've ever had a friend come to me and say,

02:53:56.440 Brian, I'm...

02:53:57.300 Or I knew that he was fucking another girl.

02:53:59.160 I don't know, maybe I'm just surrounding myself with decent people.

02:54:03.840 I've been brutally cheated on, and I still have faith in men.

02:54:06.140 Well, I would say it is important who you surround yourself with,

02:54:08.560 and if you say that, then I would credit that to your character.

02:54:11.980 I don't think all men cheat,

02:54:14.180 but I just think there's a high percentage of men who do cheat.

02:54:18.540 And I'm not saying that it's a bad or a good thing,

02:54:21.560 but it's just things that I've seen, I guess.

02:54:25.440 And it's not even like...

02:54:27.340 I don't know.

02:54:28.440 I don't...

02:54:29.340 I'm surprised that you guys don't see that as well.

02:54:33.520 Eric, can you pull...

02:54:34.380 Did you pull up the infographic?

02:54:35.880 What was it called?

02:54:37.180 Sex Frequency, I believe.

02:54:40.160 I think media...

02:54:40.840 Sex Freak.

02:54:41.320 It's more male cheating.

02:54:42.940 Yeah.

02:54:44.480 It's because it's very...

02:54:47.640 Zoom it out a little bit, so...

02:54:50.920 Actually, put it on Window.

02:54:52.960 Okay.

02:54:54.200 Window tab.

02:54:55.440 Yeah.

02:54:56.720 So, this is from 2018.

02:54:59.240 This is from the Washington Post.

02:55:00.580 It was from a general social survey that they do, like, every 10 years or something.

02:55:05.520 So, share of men and women between the ages of 18 and 30 reporting no sex in the past year.

02:55:12.440 So, in 2018, there's a 10% difference between men and women.

02:55:18.620 So, 10% more men are reporting having not had sex in the past year.

02:55:26.080 It's not that much, though.

02:55:27.960 That's pretty substantial.

02:55:29.820 What does that...

02:55:30.120 I mean, it's not like 70 and 10, you know?

02:55:32.400 Well, sure.

02:55:33.200 I mean, that would probably be social collapse if that shit was happening.

02:55:36.220 What do you propose we do about that?

02:55:39.140 What do I propose we do?

02:55:41.780 Well, I mean, that's a good question.

02:55:44.220 I'm not...

02:55:44.360 I'm not an entire...

02:55:45.280 I don't know what the...

02:55:46.460 I'm not sure what the antidote is to that, but I think a return to perhaps more traditional

02:55:54.680 values, people...

02:55:56.880 Oh, TB.

02:55:58.700 Thank you, man.

02:55:59.320 He donated $100.

02:56:01.520 Out of love, women become entirely what it is that they are in the imaginations of the

02:56:06.160 men who love them.

02:56:07.480 Of the men you love and love you, how does he imagine you?

02:56:12.320 Yeah.

02:56:12.860 Eric, go back to the chart really quick.

02:56:15.420 Thank you.

02:56:16.640 Oh, was this a question?

02:56:19.100 Here, the big thing is there's a 10% discrepancy between men and women, but note the change

02:56:27.160 from 2008 to 2018.

02:56:29.300 Oh, wow.

02:56:29.880 So it's a 20% change.

02:56:32.580 So that's huge.

02:56:34.160 That's a huge change.

02:56:35.300 So what is happening there?

02:56:36.800 And there's a...

02:56:37.440 Eric, if you can search up like Pew Research DBE, by the way, thank you for the donation.

02:56:43.860 Was that a question?

02:56:45.180 I don't know if it was...

02:56:47.020 Out of love, women...

02:56:49.180 Of the men you love and love you, how does he admit?

02:56:51.460 Okay.

02:56:51.980 Yeah.

02:56:52.960 Pew Research Singleness.

02:56:55.160 Single.

02:56:55.820 Pew Research Single.

02:56:57.360 Men and women.

02:56:58.200 Something like that.

02:56:58.920 See if you can find the article.

02:57:00.220 I think it was a Yahoo article that we had previously looked at.

02:57:06.900 Let me know if you have it, Eric.

02:57:14.060 Pew Research.

02:57:15.100 Yeah.

02:57:15.560 P-E-W.

02:57:16.140 I'm not sure if this is it, but...

02:57:19.980 What's the date on that?

02:57:21.400 No, that's...

02:57:22.100 It was recent.

02:57:22.780 It was like the past month.

02:57:24.640 See if you can find it again.

02:57:28.380 Just Pew Research.

02:57:30.260 Do 2023 single men, women, something like that.

02:57:37.020 It's 2023.

02:57:37.700 Which one?

02:57:43.540 Motherfucker Valentine's Day.

02:57:44.640 What are you doing?

02:57:45.240 No, no, no, no.

02:57:46.100 Pew Research.

02:57:47.280 Pew Research.

02:57:48.800 Oh, no.

02:57:49.300 Different one.

02:57:49.700 Different one.

02:57:51.420 Oh, wait.

02:57:52.100 Actually, go back.

02:57:52.800 Go back.

02:57:53.980 It might be in the related tab over there.

02:57:58.540 Shit.

02:57:59.440 Go look at research topics.

02:58:01.100 Go to research topics there in the left.

02:58:02.940 Eric, yeah.

02:58:10.180 Is there a date, family, and relationships?

02:58:15.380 Scroll down.

02:58:16.740 Is this a study where far more women are stating that they're in relationships?

02:58:21.500 Yes.

02:58:25.180 Where?

02:58:29.020 What the fuck?

02:58:29.960 Where is it?

02:58:32.940 I don't know.

02:58:34.300 In any case, basically, they found that it was really good, too.

02:58:38.800 Eric, can you keep trying to search?

02:58:41.140 Yeah.

02:58:41.580 I'm going to search on my end.

02:58:44.140 Pew Research.

02:58:45.740 So what you're saying is that people are not having sex nowadays?

02:58:50.860 More men than women are not having sex nowadays.

02:58:53.600 So basically, here's what's happening.

02:58:56.980 I think it's the age group of between 18 to 29.

02:59:00.020 You have women in that age group who are reporting being in relationships.

02:59:05.920 I think it's like 60% are reporting being, I don't know what the exact number.

02:59:09.740 Whereas there's like 20% of men in that same age group that are reporting being in relationships.

02:59:14.940 So that, to me, means two things.

02:59:17.640 The women are dating in that age group, are dating older men.

02:59:21.000 And they're all sharing the same guys.

02:59:26.440 So you'll have a girl who's dating a guy who has like three girlfriends or some shit.

02:59:32.600 Wouldn't that further support that men are not struggling getting women?

02:59:36.600 The top tier of men, though.

02:59:37.860 Okay.

02:59:38.440 What is top tier?

02:59:39.900 Like you're talking about?

02:59:40.540 Like, let's say the top 10% of men.

02:59:42.420 Money?

02:59:42.700 Well, it could be physical attractiveness.

02:59:46.600 It could be the whole package.

02:59:47.580 It could be socioeconomic status.

02:59:49.820 Okay.

02:59:50.260 Then just make yourself top tier.

02:59:52.140 Take care of yourself.

02:59:53.100 Get an education.

02:59:53.620 Oh, that's convenient.

02:59:54.460 Just become top tier.

02:59:56.060 I mean, if you're going to sit around and complain about top tier men pulling all the women,

03:00:00.200 why not focus on yourself and grind?

03:00:02.940 Well, yes, that's good advice.

03:00:05.540 However, there's certain realities to society.

03:00:08.620 Not everyone can be a rock star.

03:00:10.260 Some people are going to have to be garbage men.

03:00:13.440 Some people are going to be working in fast food restaurants.

03:00:17.560 That's the reality.

03:00:18.420 The difference is, is an average woman who works at McDonald's can fuck seven dudes a week.

03:00:23.700 And an average dude who works at McDonald's ain't no chance in hell he's fucking six chicks a week.

03:00:30.940 You don't think?

03:00:32.100 No, I agree.

03:00:33.040 I think that's possible.

03:00:34.380 No, I know.

03:00:35.900 If he's like a top tier Chad, maybe.

03:00:40.560 Even then.

03:00:41.560 Oh, there we go.

03:00:43.740 What?

03:00:44.320 What do you mean?

03:00:45.320 I was waiting for the Chad lingo.

03:00:47.400 All right.

03:00:48.080 Well.

03:00:48.420 Chad and Stacy's and such.

03:00:50.480 I mean, it's a.

03:00:51.800 Those imaginary names we give to these imaginary people who threaten our security.

03:00:56.360 Well, I reject that.

03:00:57.940 It's just an easy way to basically say like a really attractive guy.

03:01:01.380 That's subjective, though.

03:01:02.420 Somebody who's a Chad to one person won't be a Chad to everyone.

03:01:05.520 If you line up 100 women or 100 men and you say, OK, look at these people, there's going

03:01:14.340 to be some degree of consensus forever donated one hundred dollars.

03:01:18.500 Brian stays awake at night, rocking back and forth in the dark, thinking about all the

03:01:23.820 alphas and players smashing all the laptops in four and Santa Barbara while he's on the

03:01:28.660 struggle bus.j slash kjk.

03:01:31.040 But seriously, guys have to put in work to get laid versus girls.

03:01:35.020 I agree with that.

03:01:35.460 Bro, y'all got engaged.

03:01:36.280 He just got engaged.

03:01:37.960 Yo, Wilster.

03:01:38.780 Thank you, man.

03:01:39.320 Yes, I'm I'm I'm I'm having like fucking panic panic attacks at night thinking about

03:01:44.860 this shit.

03:01:45.520 Big energy donated one hundred dollars.

03:01:48.240 Thank you, man.

03:01:48.960 Grinders are find the earth of quality women dated hundred plus.

03:01:53.460 Most Western women are absolute trash.

03:01:56.120 Pretty butt trash.

03:01:58.000 Redheads are perfect example.

03:01:59.480 Oh, gorgeous face, but would never wifey.

03:02:03.280 Thank you.

03:02:03.800 And no worries.

03:02:04.360 I'm not interested.

03:02:05.740 Oh, wow.

03:02:06.480 OK.

03:02:06.780 OK, Eric, were you able to find it, by the way?

03:02:11.600 Most men single.

03:02:16.740 You know what?

03:02:17.440 It might have been that Valentine's Day one, but I could have sworn there was another

03:02:20.920 one.

03:02:21.540 Can you just pull up the Valentine's Day one really quick and then?

03:02:24.280 Oh, wait.

03:02:25.320 OK, yeah, that's fine.

03:02:29.400 It is.

03:02:30.020 OK, yeah, yeah, you're right.

03:02:31.400 My bad.

03:02:31.820 It is a Valentine's Day one, Eric, if you could pull it back up.

03:02:34.220 Yeah, it says, New York Post, six out of ten young men are single.

03:02:39.180 Disturbing reasons why.

03:02:40.900 So it's 63 percent of men under 30 nowadays are electively single.

03:02:45.920 Electively single.

03:02:47.420 I don't know about that.

03:02:49.840 Eric, can you pull it up?

03:02:53.160 OK, yeah, it's here.

03:02:54.280 So can you make it bigger, please?

03:03:00.120 Go to the Windows tab.

03:03:01.780 Windows.

03:03:03.280 Yeah, scroll down.

03:03:05.760 OK.

03:03:07.000 Up, up, up.

03:03:07.680 Just up a bit.

03:03:08.360 Up a bit.

03:03:09.660 Yeah, here.

03:03:10.080 That's good.

03:03:10.420 That's good.

03:03:10.720 That's good.

03:03:10.980 So I'm looking at the, let's see, percent of U.S. adults who say they are single.

03:03:19.240 Men, 32 women.

03:03:21.940 Wait, what?

03:03:25.480 Oh, varies by age.

03:03:26.980 OK, so if you scroll down just a tad, Eric, just a little bit.

03:03:31.160 So where it says men ages 18 to 29, 63 percent of men in that age group are reporting being single, whereas women in that same exact age group, if you look below, it says ages 18 to 29, 34 percent are reporting being single.

03:03:47.660 So, again, that, to me, that just makes me think they're either dating older men or what I think is more likely a large proportion of women are dating the same guys.

03:04:00.120 And I think a lot of women would rather share like a really top tier dude than get commitment from.

03:04:05.920 Who's taking these quizzes?

03:04:07.860 The Pew Research is a really reputable statistics and data.

03:04:12.720 I'm not disagreeing with that.

03:04:14.060 I'm just, I'm a little floored.

03:04:15.600 Well, I mean, it kind of ties into hypergamy.

03:04:20.860 Like, women have a naturally hypergamous nature.

03:04:24.680 What does that mean?

03:04:27.120 Elaborate.

03:04:28.200 I'll be the one to ask.

03:04:29.680 Elaborate.

03:04:30.120 Well, just, do you want to come in on this?

03:04:34.640 Me?

03:04:35.160 Yeah.

03:04:36.880 Sure, I guess.

03:04:38.180 I mean, I mean.

03:04:40.860 Do you want me to, I'll define it.

03:04:42.180 I got it.

03:04:42.820 Um, women naturally just tend to gravitate towards men who can either provide for them or protect them.

03:04:50.540 That's just what we gravitate towards.

03:04:52.480 Yeah.

03:04:52.740 Yeah.

03:04:53.040 Sure.

03:04:53.560 It's like, it's like the, also, it falls under women won't date men who are in the same socioeconomic status, but they prefer to date men higher as men could date lower or the same.

03:05:05.000 It doesn't really matter to them.

03:05:06.560 Yeah.

03:05:07.820 Where did Brian go?

03:05:09.440 We lost our host.

03:05:10.540 Is it a free-for-all?

03:05:12.020 Free-for-all.

03:05:12.660 I guess so.

03:05:13.460 Everybody list a fun fact about yourself.

03:05:16.040 This is so off topic, but you have the best doe eyes, like, ever.

03:05:20.120 Me?

03:05:20.520 Yeah, they're like, yeah, really.

03:05:21.300 Oh, you have really cute eyes.

03:05:22.460 Yeah.

03:05:23.200 That's so sweet.

03:05:24.160 That's funny you say that, because I was literally sitting here, like, studying you, trying to figure out how you do your eyeliner.

03:05:28.020 Oh, my God, really?

03:05:29.420 Yeah.

03:05:29.660 Oh, okay.

03:05:31.040 Thank you.

03:05:31.940 Mm-hmm.

03:05:32.900 You guys can read this if you want.

03:05:35.520 All the way for Brian.

03:05:37.360 Who wants to read it?

03:05:38.160 Men are simple.

03:05:39.800 Make them feel appreciated.

03:05:41.400 And show them with physical and emotional support.

03:05:43.960 Have good sex, cook the meals, make them feel like men, have good conversation, and be a good listener.

03:05:49.660 Guys don't want that.

03:05:50.620 He doesn't want to go down on girls.

03:05:53.480 That's far-intested with that.

03:05:55.100 I can't cook, though.

03:05:59.240 I know so many women that have been so good to men, and they get fucked over, so I don't know.

03:06:06.800 I'd agree.

03:06:08.780 You'd agree.

03:06:10.360 Oh, me?

03:06:11.780 No one can do whatever they want.

03:06:13.680 We need boundaries, so it won't be a culture, like hookup culture.

03:06:18.160 We can stop hookup culture by at least trying to tell other women to stop increasing body count.

03:06:25.100 It's a first step.

03:06:26.860 Yo, Lucia, thank you for the 800,000 Indonesian, I don't know what route.

03:06:32.720 I'm half Indonesian.

03:06:34.120 Nice.

03:06:34.880 That's really cool.

03:06:35.720 I was there last year.

03:06:36.940 Are you from Jakarta?

03:06:37.920 Where are you from, Lucia?

03:06:38.960 Jakarta, Java, Bali?

03:06:41.500 Let us know.

03:06:42.400 Thank you.

03:06:42.960 Appreciate it.

03:06:44.520 Okay, so what did I miss while I was gone?

03:06:48.960 We were talking about eyeliner.

03:06:50.800 Yeah, we were talking about eyeliner.

03:06:51.800 Well, I told everybody to list a fun fact, and we started talking about eyeliner.

03:06:54.480 What's up, Eric?

03:06:55.240 I just told them to read super chats.

03:06:56.900 Yeah.

03:06:57.700 Oh, really?

03:06:58.360 There was nothing?

03:06:58.740 People would stop talking about eyeliner.

03:06:59.660 Yeah, some guy.

03:07:02.160 As soon as I leave, there's no organic conversation.

03:07:05.020 Okay.

03:07:05.820 All right, let's see here.

03:07:06.980 We have, did this one come through?

03:07:10.040 I don't know.

03:07:10.520 I forgot where I left off.

03:07:12.180 Yeah, this one.

03:07:13.020 Yeah, you read that one.

03:07:13.900 We did this one.

03:07:18.520 Yeah.

03:07:22.800 Who wants to read this one?

03:07:24.180 Go ahead.

03:07:26.120 I don't appreciate being called mean.

03:07:28.020 Oh, I meant.

03:07:28.200 Oh, shit.

03:07:28.820 No, go for it.

03:07:29.580 Go for it.

03:07:30.040 Go, you have better.

03:07:30.800 I can't, I can hardly see you.

03:07:31.680 No, you should be straight.

03:07:32.600 Okay.

03:07:33.040 I don't appreciate being called mean.

03:07:34.700 I see all of you as beautiful women, even if I don't agree with you.

03:07:38.340 As an average dude who's on the spectrum, hey, buddy, I've given up on finding a wife.

03:07:44.880 Spectrum, buddy.

03:07:46.160 Yeah, on the topic of like being neurotypical, and here's another advantage women have.

03:07:51.400 Even a woman who's not neurotypical, bro, she could put up some bodies.

03:07:57.580 But like a dude who's autistic or has Asperger's, good luck dating.

03:08:09.860 I mean, not if you date Barrett.

03:08:11.620 If you date someone like them.

03:08:12.600 No, my partner's autistic.

03:08:13.760 If the person dates someone like them.

03:08:15.340 I'm not saying it's impossible.

03:08:17.720 I think autistic guys are cute.

03:08:19.280 And a lot of women do.

03:08:20.380 I think that's another generalization.

03:08:23.740 That's just not true.

03:08:24.920 Like I see it more and more on like Twitter and stuff.

03:08:27.600 Like girls are simping for autistic dudes because they're genuine and they're quirky and they're cute.

03:08:32.560 Erroneous.

03:08:33.880 Erroneous.

03:08:34.400 Most autistic men struggle severely when it comes to dating.

03:08:38.620 Well, they struggle in in-person interactions in general.

03:08:42.720 Yeah, it's not just dating.

03:08:43.780 It's not specifically dating.

03:08:44.560 Well, yes.

03:08:45.540 But I guess the point I'm trying to make is that same difficulty is not going to present itself for women who are autistic.

03:08:54.140 Okay.

03:08:54.800 Who aren't.

03:08:56.580 Or are.

03:08:57.220 Who are.

03:08:58.000 Or maybe I got my words mixed up.

03:09:00.380 But again, like there's all sorts of realms where you can like handicap.

03:09:06.880 And I'm using like the golf term, not the disabled term, I guess.

03:09:09.980 You could handicap a girl as much as you want.

03:09:12.720 And she can still outperform a dude.

03:09:16.040 Like you would have to severely handicap a woman.

03:09:20.480 Again, golf term.

03:09:21.700 Not.

03:09:22.280 Not.

03:09:22.580 Like a chick in a wheelchair could fucking put up some bodies, bro.

03:09:30.560 Okay.

03:09:31.700 I'm just saying like she could, she could get, get some.

03:09:36.260 Okay.

03:09:36.880 You know, shit.

03:09:38.360 You're.

03:09:39.000 I think.

03:09:39.860 Brian, I think.

03:09:40.700 I think most of us.

03:09:41.600 I know men in wheelchairs.

03:09:42.020 I think most of us agree with you.

03:09:43.280 A man in a wheelchair, he's going to struggle.

03:09:45.240 Trust me.

03:09:45.620 Okay.

03:09:45.900 Trust me on this.

03:09:46.400 Brian, I think a lot of us agreed with you that.

03:09:48.600 Yeah, sure.

03:09:49.400 Women do have an easier time getting laid.

03:09:50.980 Oh, she didn't.

03:09:51.840 And so I'm just kind of.

03:09:53.040 Yeah, I was like the only one, I guess.

03:09:55.260 Let's do this.

03:09:55.880 Show of hands.

03:09:56.680 I don't know.

03:09:58.140 Who has an easy.

03:10:00.780 Let me think.

03:10:01.420 Let me think about how I want to word this.

03:10:03.960 Do you think it's overstated the degree to which men struggle to get women?

03:10:12.760 Overstated?

03:10:13.740 Overstated.

03:10:14.100 Do you think it's exaggerated?

03:10:16.480 I think it's.

03:10:18.020 A little, sure.

03:10:19.140 Because I think in some cases, people get very self-pitchous.

03:10:24.440 And yeah, sure.

03:10:25.240 It's.

03:10:25.800 Pitchous?

03:10:26.040 Yeah, self-pitchous.

03:10:26.940 Is that a word?

03:10:27.960 It is.

03:10:28.440 And I think.

03:10:29.020 Wow.

03:10:29.440 I'm learning.

03:10:29.780 I'm pretty sure it is.

03:10:31.340 Pitch.

03:10:31.980 Pitchous?

03:10:33.040 Like pitch.

03:10:33.920 E-O-U-S?

03:10:36.300 Yeah.

03:10:37.700 Pitch.

03:10:38.060 Pityous.

03:10:38.980 Yeah.

03:10:39.360 Oh, pity.

03:10:39.920 Okay.

03:10:40.280 Pitchous.

03:10:41.100 I didn't know.

03:10:42.460 Okay.

03:10:42.760 Yeah, that's a word.

03:10:43.580 Cool.

03:10:44.060 Anyways.

03:10:44.520 I think.

03:10:44.740 Hold on.

03:10:44.880 Let me, let me check the pronunciation.

03:10:46.320 Looking it up.

03:10:47.120 Pityous.

03:10:47.580 Pityous.

03:10:48.020 It's pitchous threw me off.

03:10:49.680 Pityous.

03:10:50.060 Oh, pityous.

03:10:50.720 Why you gotta throw me off like that, dude?

03:10:52.100 Sorry, I was homeschooled, so I learned, I learned the pronunciation of most things like

03:10:55.620 by myself.

03:10:56.780 Oh.

03:10:56.960 So, do you want to know really quick how I thought fatigue was pronounced until I was

03:11:01.180 14?

03:11:02.560 Fatiga?

03:11:03.420 Worse.

03:11:03.960 A fatigoo.

03:11:05.800 I love it.

03:11:07.400 I love it.

03:11:08.240 Anyways.

03:11:08.860 I think, yeah, sure, it's definitely harder for men to get laid.

03:11:11.580 However, I think a lot of people tend to wallow in that fact instead of thinking, okay, how

03:11:16.660 can I better myself?

03:11:18.780 And, you know, like, yeah, even if it is harder, it doesn't mean you should fall into

03:11:24.380 that trope and stop and abandon taking care of yourself and give up.

03:11:28.080 Well, I agree with you that you shouldn't just wallow in self-pity and you should try

03:11:33.980 to level up.

03:11:35.120 However, I do think there are certain realities when it comes to the dating dynamics that make

03:11:41.500 it incredibly frustrating for some men, especially men who are, for example, really unattractive

03:11:47.040 physically or are short.

03:11:51.020 These men have genuine concerns when it comes to dating.

03:11:54.100 Are you saying, like, somebody who's short, like, they can't change that?

03:11:58.880 There's nothing they can do to be taller?

03:12:01.560 Like, people who can't, people who can't level up.

03:12:03.660 You can't make yourself taller.

03:12:04.600 No, I know.

03:12:05.260 I'm asking, is that what you're saying?

03:12:06.480 Like, people who have no choice but to accept, accept that they'll never be top tier because

03:12:10.980 they can't change something like their height?

03:12:13.000 Well, I mean, there's certain, there's just certain realities to, for example, facial

03:12:17.200 symmetry.

03:12:17.720 You know, there's just the way your face is, like, that you can't really change.

03:12:25.020 And, I mean, literally, like, a few, I don't know what the term would be, like, a few cubic,

03:12:34.640 I don't know what the fucking term is.

03:12:36.960 Literally, ah, fuck, what's the term?

03:12:38.940 I don't know.

03:12:40.220 Like, the smallest amount of bone and meat could, like, transform someone's face.

03:12:45.960 But if you're lacking in that way, there's really not much you can do to make up for it,

03:12:50.000 for example.

03:12:51.580 Now, no matter who you are, whether you're already really attractive or you're not, you

03:12:56.160 do need to try to level up as much as you can.

03:12:58.640 But some men are going to struggle more than others.

03:13:01.280 And we're seeing that play out in actuality, in real time, in the dating marketplace, where

03:13:06.120 you basically have swaths of men that are basically invisible to women.

03:13:11.760 But all of this doesn't have to, it's not about looks.

03:13:14.820 It's about how men talk to women and lack thereof.

03:13:19.440 I don't know why this didn't get read.

03:13:21.140 Let me, I'm going to trigger this again.

03:13:22.520 Go ahead with your point, though.

03:13:24.420 I just think so much of this is not based on looks and whatnot.

03:13:30.120 It's about how men just, like, literally don't know how to talk to women.

03:13:34.340 I mean, perhaps that's a component, but I mean, looks is the first thing.

03:13:38.680 A component, that's a huge aspect of it.

03:13:40.940 To get up the nerve to do it, to actually know what to say, to not have some terrible

03:13:44.860 pickup line, to connect with someone.

03:13:47.900 And the burden of which falls almost exclusively on men.

03:13:53.120 Sure.

03:13:53.740 I think women do as well, but you can have a...

03:13:56.220 Women do what?

03:13:56.660 You can have...

03:13:57.900 What?

03:13:58.960 Women don't really initiate to the same degree that men do.

03:14:01.740 Women don't have to.

03:14:06.340 Okay, but...

03:14:07.740 So, you just said, oh, they don't know how to talk to guys, but, like, I could probably,

03:14:12.120 we could run through this experiment right now, like...

03:14:14.860 No, I'm saying there's an aspect of that.

03:14:16.520 It's way worse than men.

03:14:16.960 But most women don't have game.

03:14:18.940 I would disagree.

03:14:19.780 Most women don't.

03:14:20.640 You don't have game and you don't need game.

03:14:22.780 Women don't need game.

03:14:23.860 You literally just show up.

03:14:25.840 I don't know.

03:14:26.620 No, I've definitely turned off more than one person just from being weird.

03:14:32.380 My point is that it's not about looks.

03:14:34.840 Like, a guy on a lower end scale of looks or whatever, if he's talking to you, if he's,

03:14:40.980 like, intriguing you...

03:14:42.120 Into the mic.

03:14:42.700 Closer to the mic.

03:14:43.240 Sorry.

03:14:43.440 If he's intriguing you, that will outshine anything.

03:14:47.600 Yeah, but the basis for both men and women, the first thing is physical attraction.

03:14:51.980 That has to be there.

03:14:54.220 If you have, like, dynamo game or riz or whatever bullshit term, yeah, you can make up for your

03:15:00.980 lack of looks.

03:15:01.820 If you have status and you have wealth, you can make up for your lack of looks to some

03:15:07.740 degree.

03:15:08.120 I don't agree with that.

03:15:08.420 If you're meeting someone at a bar, like, everything is on the line of what you're going

03:15:14.300 to say to them.

03:15:15.140 That's all that matters.

03:15:15.780 Also, your physical appearance.

03:15:16.820 Fine, but if you're engaging in that person in the way that is intriguing the woman, that

03:15:24.100 says a lot more.

03:15:25.020 People can get over, like, how you look and they can grow to love you and accept certain

03:15:30.360 things.

03:15:30.640 Then why is it that women only swipe, like, a couple of you answered this question.

03:15:34.840 Most of you said, oh, I only find, like, 10, 15% of the dudes on dating apps attractive.

03:15:39.540 And the data from the dating apps themselves say that women swipe on, like, they swipe no

03:15:46.940 on the vast majority of men.

03:15:48.360 So if it really wasn't about looks, then why is it the case that women on dating apps where

03:15:53.560 most people meet seem to care quite a bit about physical appearance?

03:15:58.480 I think everyone cares quite a bit.

03:16:00.580 And I'm...

03:16:01.260 Doesn't that contradict your point then?

03:16:02.440 No, I'm just saying, I think, I mean, I'm a little bit on the opposite side where I

03:16:09.300 tend to date down, if anything.

03:16:11.420 Jeffrey Wolf donated $100.

03:16:13.980 Don't fall into that trope.

03:16:16.320 Red-haired girl, you mean like the feminist victimhood tropes you've been throwing out

03:16:20.620 all night?

03:16:21.960 You want to kiss me so bad.

03:16:25.460 Come play Mario Kart with me.

03:16:26.860 You'll get creamed.

03:16:27.580 Trust.

03:16:30.800 Creamed?

03:16:31.380 What?

03:16:31.640 Haram!

03:16:32.940 Oh, okay.

03:16:34.700 What?

03:16:34.960 Go ahead.

03:16:37.220 I just think if more men who were not in the top tier knew how to speak to women more

03:16:45.680 so, their looks wouldn't matter as much.

03:16:48.580 And women are able and willing to, like, adapt to what their normal standards...

03:16:54.380 You're too far from the mic.

03:16:55.720 Sorry.

03:16:56.620 Women are able to adapt their normal standards of what they think is attractive based on

03:17:01.140 how attractive someone is speaking to them.

03:17:04.540 So basically, have game is what you're saying?

03:17:06.800 And I know this because it happened to me.

03:17:08.660 But I think most women don't care about looks anyways.

03:17:12.180 Like, I was reading this...

03:17:12.600 I would disagree.

03:17:13.180 I disagree.

03:17:13.520 I don't know.

03:17:14.060 I was reading this book and they said that most women, they're seduced by words.

03:17:20.240 And men are seduced by physical appearances.

03:17:24.120 I agree that women are seduced by words, but it is initiated by physical attraction.

03:17:29.720 The physical attractiveness...

03:17:30.440 Oh, like the first thing you see?

03:17:31.840 Are you going to engage...

03:17:32.340 Like, let's say...

03:17:33.980 But why are women not even willing to engage in this conversation?

03:17:36.840 I don't care about looks, though.

03:17:38.760 Like...

03:17:39.120 I don't know.

03:17:40.320 No, it's not a cat.

03:17:42.040 Yo, would you date a guy shorter than you?

03:17:44.760 Um, yeah.

03:17:45.800 I mean, I've gone on a date with a guy...

03:17:47.520 Well, shorter than me.

03:17:48.240 I'm short.

03:17:48.820 I'm only 5'3", so I don't...

03:17:50.480 I don't mean many men 5'3".

03:17:52.300 But let's say you did.

03:17:53.260 Would you date...

03:17:53.920 Would you be attracted to him?

03:17:55.680 Yeah.

03:17:55.840 Um, I don't know if I would, like, be attracted to him, but I would not...

03:17:58.700 So you care about looks?

03:17:59.380 I wouldn't stop that from giving him a chance.

03:18:00.920 So you care about...

03:18:01.560 But you care about looks?

03:18:03.380 No, because I don't stop that from, like, me giving somebody a chance.

03:18:06.640 Like, even if I'm not, like...

03:18:07.900 You would date someone you're not attracted to?

03:18:09.920 Yeah, I have.

03:18:10.840 But just because I gave them a chance to actually get to know him, and I actually, like...

03:18:15.660 I wasn't initially attracted to this person.

03:18:17.760 Let me ask you a question.

03:18:18.420 Gave them a chance, and...

03:18:19.560 You said you had one long-term relationship, correct?

03:18:22.840 Yeah.

03:18:23.160 How tall was he?

03:18:24.460 Oh, he's, like, 6'1", or something like that.

03:18:27.520 That's convenient.

03:18:28.840 Yeah.

03:18:28.940 The one guy you did have a long-term relationship happens to be...

03:18:32.080 Three feet above the average height.

03:18:35.340 So I...

03:18:36.640 Girls say this all the time, but then I ask, well, what is...

03:18:39.580 Of all the men you've dated, they're like, oh, 6'3", 6'4".

03:18:43.240 Okay, I like guys that are...

03:18:44.720 I do like guys that are 6'4".

03:18:45.600 I would date a short guy, but all my boyfriends have been 6'5".

03:18:48.020 My ex-fiance was much shorter than I.

03:18:49.160 I wouldn't stop that from giving someone...

03:18:51.200 I wouldn't let that stop me from giving somebody a chance.

03:18:53.680 Real.

03:18:54.320 Like, I wouldn't.

03:18:55.880 I think women actually care way more about looks than men.

03:18:58.680 Hot take of the night.

03:18:59.520 How about that?

03:19:00.080 I disagree.

03:19:00.620 Well, depends on what you're talking about.

03:19:03.300 If you're talking about, like, long-term, men would care about looks more.

03:19:08.600 But short-term, I don't think so.

03:19:13.120 I also think, though, dating apps nowadays make it really focused.

03:19:16.680 That's why I don't care about looks.

03:19:18.480 Me?

03:19:18.900 Yeah.

03:19:19.280 Into the mic.

03:19:19.740 Sorry.

03:19:20.140 I think nowadays, dating apps make it really focused on looks.

03:19:24.060 Because it's like, you're putting up pictures.

03:19:26.760 You could write whatever caption you want to write, but...

03:19:29.120 Dating apps are extremely vapid.

03:19:30.700 It relies solely on looks, and looks can be manipulated on photos.

03:19:34.100 Yeah.

03:19:34.460 Totally.

03:19:35.500 Well, like Avery said, if something's not working for you, maybe try something different.

03:19:39.380 Hold on.

03:19:39.800 Hold on.

03:19:40.120 Are you going to say my physical appearance as well?

03:19:41.720 Like, I could get surgery or something like that.

03:19:43.640 No, I was going to say, makeup also does that.

03:19:47.060 Okay, let me...

03:19:47.660 Not to the same extent as filters or...

03:19:50.880 Makeup is the most accepted lie in society.

03:19:54.140 I'm just as cute without makeup.

03:19:55.560 Same.

03:19:56.060 I have pictures on my Instagram with no makeup on.

03:19:58.240 Most of the men don't even notice when you're not wearing it.

03:20:01.880 Okay, I need to get these, because they didn't come...

03:20:04.860 By the way, sorry for...

03:20:06.080 I'm about to re-trigger it.

03:20:07.560 I don't know why they didn't come through as TTS.

03:20:09.260 I'm about to re-trigger these.

03:20:11.440 Okay, so I'm waiting for it to pass.

03:20:14.440 Oh, shit.

03:20:15.020 Whoops.

03:20:17.040 Sorry, I didn't come through.

03:20:19.100 If our men put more of their time and money into improving themselves than spending it

03:20:25.920 watching Slash Off and playing video games, they'd get the high-value females they are

03:20:31.200 looking for.

03:20:32.720 Yeah, but men are checking out of the dating marketplace because it's just the...

03:20:37.460 What's the saying?

03:20:38.220 It's the juice isn't worth the squeeze, I guess.

03:20:41.560 Ew.

03:20:42.720 That was worse than me saying creamed.

03:20:45.920 No, it's not.

03:20:46.740 Literally, it's just like, men are like, shit, I have to do all this work.

03:20:51.780 I have to like...

03:20:52.500 For certain women, it depends on what type of women you're going after.

03:20:56.820 I think it's also hard.

03:20:57.760 It's called hoflation.

03:20:58.880 Well, it's coming from the whole woke feminist movement, I think, too.

03:21:02.740 But what is the so-called work that you're describing?

03:21:06.000 What is all this work that they have to do to date?

03:21:09.400 Men, overwhelmingly, when it comes to courtship, do the heavy lifting.

03:21:14.300 Men, I don't know if you're familiar with it, I've said this before, there's a video game term called carrying.

03:21:20.960 So in the video game, when you're carrying somebody, they suck at the video game, you're presumably good at the video game,

03:21:27.500 or at least you know what you're doing, and you're carrying them to the win, to the victory.

03:21:32.380 So that's how a lot of men feel when it comes to dating.

03:21:35.360 I feel like a lot of women feel similarly.

03:21:37.940 That they're the ones having to withhold these conversations for a long run.

03:21:42.520 Women don't know what?

03:21:44.380 I'm sorry, you interrupt.

03:21:45.680 You first.

03:21:47.200 Okay.

03:21:50.200 The guy has to initiate.

03:21:51.980 Point blank, period.

03:21:53.620 Most men have to initiate.

03:21:55.420 If they don't, they're not getting a DM.

03:21:57.780 They're not, they're not getting anything.

03:22:02.580 Okay.

03:22:03.380 May I ask the panel a question as well?

03:22:06.240 Well, let me just add to that, and then you can ask.

03:22:08.080 Of course.

03:22:08.500 So, the burden of initiative is on men.

03:22:12.740 At almost every single step along the way, generally speaking, are there some women that approach guys?

03:22:19.560 Sure.

03:22:20.160 Are there some women that go for the first kiss?

03:22:22.680 Sure.

03:22:23.080 Are there some women that will carry the conversation, and try to set up a date, and plan it, and meet me here, I'll do this.

03:22:31.400 Are there some women that pay for dates?

03:22:34.480 Sure.

03:22:35.400 However, it's not the majority.

03:22:37.420 So, we have to look at what's happening, generally speaking.

03:22:42.400 So, as a guy, typically the burden is on you to, let's say it's on a dating app.

03:22:47.040 You're going to have to maybe send the match.

03:22:49.100 You're going to have to send the first message.

03:22:50.560 You're going to have to carry the conversation there.

03:22:53.420 You're going to have to ask for the number.

03:22:55.800 You're going to have to plan the date, set up the date, pay for the date, and then move things forward physically.

03:23:03.280 So, there's all kinds of logistical things.

03:23:05.540 Okay, do we, how am I going to try to get her back to my place?

03:23:08.720 Okay, how do I close the physical distance?

03:23:11.640 How do I go for the first kiss?

03:23:13.160 Yes, most women don't initiate first kisses.

03:23:17.200 Some do, but I'm assuming most of you, your experience is the guy goes for the kiss first.

03:23:25.680 No, and that's where I was going to pose a question to the group.

03:23:29.560 Okay, sure.

03:23:30.420 Just in general, how many of you guys have initiated dates or intimacy with a partner and been that person?

03:23:36.760 That's not a good question.

03:23:37.680 The question should be, more often than not, who is initiating?

03:23:42.360 It doesn't matter if once you saw some really hot dude and you asked him out on a date.

03:23:46.920 The question is, more often than not, of your relationship and dating experience, have you initiated?

03:23:52.480 And for most women, the answer is no.

03:23:57.620 Yeah, mine would be no.

03:23:59.440 Here, we'll go around the table.

03:24:00.700 Here, let's start over here.

03:24:01.540 Go ahead.

03:24:02.240 Wait, what was the question?

03:24:04.360 Like, I don't know.

03:24:06.140 Of all the times you've been on a date, you've hooked up with a guy, you've been in a relationship, like, who initiated?

03:24:16.660 Majority.

03:24:17.520 You got to say it into the mic, please.

03:24:18.760 I would say, relationship-wise, I have initiated most of them.

03:24:23.860 Yes, okay, most women will initiate the relationship conversation.

03:24:28.500 I'm talking about the initial stages of courtship.

03:24:31.100 Yeah, getting to the relationship, the relationships, the initial, I'd say I definitely was the one to go up to the person or pursue them.

03:24:42.880 Yeah.

03:24:43.240 So you went for the first kiss?

03:24:45.640 Yeah, I did.

03:24:47.800 I don't believe that.

03:24:48.340 Stop the cast.

03:24:49.260 In one of my relationships.

03:24:51.100 That's such bullshit.

03:24:51.980 In one of the relationships?

03:24:52.560 You're not going to believe us, no matter what we say, so I don't see a point in answering this.

03:24:56.020 Your perspective has been thoroughly ingrained into yourself.

03:24:59.500 No, this is just the reality.

03:25:01.640 This is just reality.

03:25:02.300 Why are you asking us if you're just going to call bullshit?

03:25:04.560 I do think men are more pursuers.

03:25:06.620 Yeah, it's ludicrous.

03:25:07.540 It's ludicrous.

03:25:08.140 It's ludicrous to say.

03:25:09.240 And women.

03:25:09.840 I agree with what you're saying, but I also agree with it.

03:25:12.280 Yeah, it's absurd to say that, generally speaking, like, for example, let's take the first kiss, for example.

03:25:20.240 That's something that the man initiates.

03:25:23.780 I agree with what you're saying.

03:25:25.060 Like, most of the time, it's the men.

03:25:26.380 It's crazy, like, for you, I mean, maybe you guys are outliers on this, but, like, most men's experience, most women's experiences, the guy initiates, for example, the first kiss.

03:25:38.760 But is that actually a lot of work?

03:25:40.660 Like, you said that's a lot of work.

03:25:42.840 Is that a lot of work, like, talking to a girl and getting her number and taking her on a date or initiating the date?

03:25:49.180 It's like.

03:25:49.660 Yeah, I would say so.

03:25:51.020 Oh.

03:25:52.140 Because we face the burden of rejection.

03:25:53.940 It's a very privileged position to say, oh, is it a lot of work?

03:25:58.980 Well, we're the ones that are putting ourselves out there to be rejected.

03:26:01.840 And throughout the course of the initial stages of dating, there are, like, dozens of potential points of rejection that men face.

03:26:12.220 From approaching you to asking for your number, asking for a date, setting up the date, dealing with flaking.

03:26:19.880 Okay.

03:26:20.540 Moving things forward.

03:26:23.820 So, do you want to go back to my place now?

03:26:26.680 Not really.

03:26:28.380 Going for the kiss.

03:26:29.900 Going, trying to, you know, if you want to move things forward from there, taking the top off, whatever, you know, I'm sure your imagination can figure out the rest.

03:26:37.880 Have you ever turned down a guy for sex?

03:26:40.500 Me?

03:26:41.060 Yeah.

03:26:41.360 Yeah.

03:26:41.600 All the time.

03:26:42.600 Okay, that's a point of rejection.

03:26:44.560 Yeah, but, I mean, life goes on.

03:26:47.060 Yeah, it's not a big deal, but I'm just saying, like, the burden falls on men.

03:26:51.320 And a lot of men struggle to navigate these dozens of potential points where men can be rejected.

03:26:58.460 I mean, I can.

03:26:59.100 I can learn to navigate it better.

03:27:02.620 I mean, through practice.

03:27:04.280 Okay.

03:27:04.660 Trial and error, I suppose.

03:27:06.060 But I don't object to women taking on some of the burden on this front.

03:27:12.600 Okay, wait.

03:27:13.240 But women don't, and they don't need to, because they can just find a guy who will.

03:27:17.780 Well, they do, just not the majority, right?

03:27:22.580 What do you mean?

03:27:23.280 You said women don't take on the burden, but these girls are saying that they have done that.

03:27:29.400 So it does happen, just not likely, right?

03:27:35.800 Generally speaking, I would say most women don't initiate.

03:27:39.260 But do you think it's impossible for them to?

03:27:41.140 No, of course not.

03:27:42.080 Women have initiated with me, although it's rare.

03:27:48.660 Did you reject them?

03:27:49.680 I was about to ask, have you ever rejected somebody?

03:27:53.200 Not as frequently as I've been rejected.

03:27:55.420 Okay, but it's happened.

03:27:56.040 But yeah, I've rejected, yeah, sure.

03:27:57.800 Okay, so I think everybody needs to learn to navigate rejection.

03:28:00.940 If you can't handle rejection, then that's a personal issue.

03:28:03.420 Women don't really need to, though.

03:28:05.800 Like, you can move, as a woman, if you want, you can just sit back and let guys come to you.

03:28:12.080 You don't necessarily have to navigate rejection because you can pick amongst the men or deal with the men that will take all the initiative.

03:28:20.440 Whereas men, most men don't have that option.

03:28:25.060 Maybe really, like, attractive guys can do that.

03:28:27.140 But most men do not have the option to, let me just sit back.

03:28:30.320 Let me just go to a bar and just wait for a girl to come up to me.

03:28:35.760 99 times out of 100, as a dude, like, say an average dude, if you go out to a bar or a nightclub and you just stand there at the bar, ain't no chick talking to you the entire night.

03:28:47.560 Right. So what's the point you're trying to make here?

03:28:50.540 Should we feel sorry? Like, what do we do about that?

03:28:54.380 Well, we're talking about whether dating and relationships and sex is easier for women to attain.

03:29:01.040 So point made, it's easier for women, but who fixes that? What is there to be done about that?

03:29:07.480 I'm sorry.

03:29:07.940 I don't really have a solution to that.

03:29:12.020 Okay.

03:29:12.640 I'm just, I'm acknowledging the reality of the dating landscape.

03:29:17.720 I think what you're getting at is that it's making men not want to date anymore.

03:29:22.080 And that it's...

03:29:23.840 Because they're tired of giving effort, you think?

03:29:27.200 Well, I hear you, but I feel like that's, like, a moving target.

03:29:30.840 Well, like, I've got, again, I stated that, like, the woke feminist culture, I think, is making it harder for men and confusing men and not understanding where, how to approach women nowadays.

03:29:46.540 I mean, I feel that in, like, girlfriends, friendships with women.

03:29:50.400 Like, it's really hard for me to, like, get on the same level with the younger generation.

03:29:55.260 Hmm?

03:29:55.720 Oh, I was just asking if Eric could...

03:29:57.620 You find it hard to connect with other women your age?

03:30:00.840 No, women, younger than me.

03:30:02.880 Younger than you.

03:30:03.260 Like, new culture that I'm talking about.

03:30:06.160 Do you think that's, like, a generational thing?

03:30:11.100 Kind of, but I also think it's just, like, politics and just how things are now.

03:30:15.680 What do you mean?

03:30:17.200 Like, woke culture and things that have just, like, sprung up within the last, like, ten years.

03:30:21.720 Define woke culture.

03:30:26.800 Like, what about a woman that you met who was younger than you?

03:30:29.580 What about her would signal woke, I can't connect with her?

03:30:35.260 Well, I think it's a lot with the feminist movement as well and just feeling superior over, like, I forget the woman's name that was here, but, like, thinking, like, she deserves more because she's a woman and I just don't agree with that.

03:30:49.540 But she's not younger, she's 32.

03:30:52.700 So I don't think it's necessarily...

03:30:54.200 So that's what I'm saying.

03:30:54.760 I did say the feminist movement.

03:30:56.780 Okay.

03:30:57.080 Not everything is woke.

03:30:57.660 I do understand what you're saying.

03:30:59.100 Because, like, I feel like a lot of women I talk to nowadays, they always say, like, oh, I hate men.

03:31:03.820 Or, like, they put down, like, there's this phrase, like, toxic masculinity.

03:31:08.960 Yeah, I don't agree with that at all.

03:31:10.380 I don't agree with that.

03:31:11.500 I think it is unfair to say you hate men.

03:31:14.200 No, I'm saying...

03:31:14.900 Yeah, no, I know, I'm agreeing with you.

03:31:16.600 I'm saying it is unfair to say you hate men because, like, as you guys already know, I think it's unfair to generalize.

03:31:21.320 And I hate men is generalizing, like, half of the planet, so...

03:31:24.660 For sure.

03:31:25.060 Yeah, I wouldn't say that either.

03:31:26.540 But so many women are.

03:31:27.660 Adam Morris donated $100.

03:31:30.720 I'm not trying to get laid.

03:31:32.380 I'm trying to get married.

03:31:34.320 I want a wife, not a buddy.

03:31:36.640 As someone who has experienced sexual abuse, I don't look for who I can sleep with.

03:31:41.980 I look for someone I can trust and invest in.

03:31:45.580 Yo, Adam Morris, thank you for the $100, man.

03:31:47.460 Appreciate it.

03:31:48.460 Okay, let me get through some of these soup chats here.

03:31:50.420 So, we have...

03:31:52.700 Did we do this one?

03:31:56.760 Yeah, we did.

03:31:58.620 Uh, Avery, can you read this one?

03:32:01.120 This podcast is controversial because Brian speaks the truth and some people find the truth offensive.

03:32:06.360 Yo, Ty Collin, the bygone, thank you for the 50, man.

03:32:10.020 Appreciate it.

03:32:11.720 Uh, go ahead.

03:32:13.000 Keep going, Avery.

03:32:14.360 There's a...

03:32:14.920 Oh, there's a...

03:32:15.680 Ah!

03:32:16.160 Jeffrey Wolf donated $100.

03:32:18.340 Hoflation, the concept of men having to work 20x harder than their grandfathers did for women 20x worse than what their grandmothers were.

03:32:28.580 Contemplate that.

03:32:29.640 Why would we want to put in the traditional work when the modern woman is so non-traditional?

03:32:36.320 Word?

03:32:37.160 But I find a traditional woman.

03:32:40.240 Have fun.

03:32:40.820 I don't know.

03:32:41.520 I think, like, back in the day is, like, romanticized a lot.

03:32:47.020 I don't think it was as perfect as everyone tries to make it seem.

03:32:51.660 Like, I'm sure there were women that were having sex before marriage.

03:32:56.820 They were just better at hiding it.

03:32:59.000 Look, I think a lot of guys try to do it when it comes to the Hoflation thing.

03:33:02.860 A lot of guys try to do the right thing.

03:33:05.460 You know, they try to be romantic and do the flowers and pay for the date and take a girl out on dates.

03:33:12.780 And then...

03:33:13.100 But they don't...

03:33:14.680 That's not rewarded, really.

03:33:16.840 Like, women fucking clown on dudes who do that shit.

03:33:19.000 Like, they honestly lose respect.

03:33:21.300 And then that same girl is going to just go hook up with some dude who never had to do any of those things.

03:33:27.460 Never paid for a date.

03:33:29.660 So, guys are, like, realizing, hey, there's two standards here.

03:33:32.840 So, guys are checking out.

03:33:35.000 I mean, I don't agree with that.

03:33:36.820 I appreciate that stuff.

03:33:38.300 And I never made anyone feel unappreciated for doing those things or felt like...

03:33:42.460 Yeah, I think that also comes to, like, who you're choosing to date as well as a guy.

03:33:46.940 Like, more so women who act that way.

03:33:49.300 And then there's also women who don't and actually appreciate it.

03:33:52.360 Sure, there are some women that I suppose appreciate it.

03:33:54.780 But there's a lot of women out there who will maybe claim that they want traditional courtship.

03:34:00.080 However, if you look at their behavior, you know, they are...

03:34:05.300 Like, they'll have two different standards.

03:34:08.940 So, they'll accept that from the one guy.

03:34:11.100 And then they will...

03:34:12.820 What's it called?

03:34:13.220 They'll just, like, go over to that hot dude's place.

03:34:18.440 Screw him.

03:34:19.020 He never had to pay for a date.

03:34:20.180 However, they'll have a different standard for another guy over here who...

03:34:23.420 You got to take me on three dates.

03:34:25.700 I don't do that.

03:34:26.420 And pay for all my shit.

03:34:27.840 I don't know.

03:34:28.500 I don't do that.

03:34:29.600 All right.

03:34:29.960 Let me get through the rest of these soup chats.

03:34:31.820 Fear Maddox.

03:34:32.620 Thank you for the 50.

03:34:34.340 Avery, if you can go ahead and read it.

03:34:35.880 Hey, Brian.

03:34:36.640 Love your show.

03:34:37.660 Interesting.

03:34:38.240 I'm a virgin.

03:34:39.000 Understand the body count double standards.

03:34:41.280 But I wait until marriage because I love to see a purpose.

03:34:44.360 Guys can say no to sex as well.

03:34:46.160 I'm an average guy.

03:34:47.300 We're the ones on the side watching y'all suffer.

03:34:50.800 Word?

03:34:51.400 Hey, Fear Maddox.

03:34:52.500 Thank you for the 50, man.

03:34:54.580 Really appreciate it.

03:34:55.460 Good luck with the waiting.

03:34:59.380 All right.

03:34:59.800 We have Jeffrey Wolf.

03:35:00.740 Thank you for the 50.

03:35:03.720 Wait.

03:35:04.340 Learn these girls to the following body count paternity.

03:35:06.560 Lower to...

03:35:06.960 Oh.

03:35:07.100 So, Avery, do you want to read this?

03:35:09.500 Brian, learn these girls to the following.

03:35:11.700 Body count, paternity, lowered STD risk, greater ability to parabond, and finally the worst

03:35:16.360 of all, micro...

03:35:19.640 Chimerism.

03:35:20.500 Okay.

03:35:21.740 Yeah.

03:35:22.680 So, this kind of just ties back into our body count discussion.

03:35:25.140 The microchimerism, I read a study that apparently, and this could be bogus.

03:35:31.540 If a guy has...

03:35:33.260 If you've had sex with a guy, and I think it's if he blasts inside of you, let's say, you

03:35:39.400 actually, like...

03:35:40.640 Ew.

03:35:41.860 I'm not going to say it.

03:35:42.800 Yeah.

03:35:43.240 You retain.

03:35:43.720 You retain, like, his DNA.

03:35:46.540 Oh.

03:35:46.820 For a duration of time, you do retain...

03:35:49.480 Like, how long?

03:35:50.740 Well, how else am I going to clone him?

03:35:55.040 Exactly.

03:35:56.200 All right.

03:35:57.200 Yo, Lemon, thank you for the hundred man.

03:35:59.800 Avery, go ahead.

03:36:00.520 You've got a lovely speaking voice.

03:36:02.000 Oh, thank you.

03:36:02.500 The reason why body count matters to most men is simple.

03:36:06.160 If you've given away the most intimate part of yourself to a lot of men, then your intimacy

03:36:09.840 is not worth all that much.

03:36:11.440 If an entire basketball roster of men have slept with you, then your intimacy is worth

03:36:15.460 nothing.

03:36:17.480 Why do men always say they want these, like, good women or, like, virgin women, but they

03:36:26.480 give attention to women who are not like that all the time?

03:36:30.780 Like, I feel like in this day of, like, social media, most women that get attention are not

03:36:38.460 traditional.

03:36:39.920 So, why be traditional if they're the ones getting all the attention?

03:36:43.280 That's not really true.

03:36:45.560 That's what I see.

03:36:47.320 I mean, social media, like, look at the girls who are popular on social media.

03:36:52.680 It's not girls that are covered and, like, being virtuous.

03:36:56.780 It's women who are showing their body and doing what they want to do.

03:37:02.640 I don't know.

03:37:04.020 But that's common.

03:37:04.460 Those are the women getting attention.

03:37:05.720 That's common.

03:37:08.780 So, men want perhaps what is uncommon, which is not spreading your butt cheeks on Instagram.

03:37:17.160 But how is that so?

03:37:18.940 But they follow that girl.

03:37:19.920 Yeah.

03:37:20.540 They're liking her pictures.

03:37:22.120 They're supporting her.

03:37:24.080 Well, yeah, there's a bunch of simps, for sure, following chicks.

03:37:27.600 I feel like every guy I see these days, like, opens their phone and their socials in front

03:37:30.980 of me, and it's just, like, like, because that's what they like.

03:37:35.180 Yeah.

03:37:35.620 That's what they like.

03:37:36.460 That's what they really want.

03:37:37.480 Well, men are visual creatures, and men, I think, certainly have a higher sex drive than

03:37:42.180 women, so.

03:37:42.980 So, you're excusing it?

03:37:44.860 What do you mean, excusing?

03:37:45.500 Are you saying, like, it's fine that all these men, like, they have the gall to complain

03:37:48.760 about these things, but then their entire timeline is just, like, various cheeks?

03:37:52.540 Like, that's fine because they're visual creatures?

03:37:54.280 Or do you think they should have some self-control?

03:37:56.960 Why should women, why should women as the gatekeepers of sex be the ones with the self-control

03:38:00.980 when men can't even, like, get ethots off of their timeline?

03:38:05.460 I'm not really following that.

03:38:07.800 You're saying men are visual creatures, so that's why their socials are so full of,

03:38:12.040 like, ass and titties, but, like, why does being a visual creature excuse virtual promiscuity

03:38:18.600 then?

03:38:20.260 If that's, like, not okay for a woman to be posting and showing off and doing, then why

03:38:25.020 is it okay for men to be...

03:38:25.740 Then why do so many men follow these women?

03:38:27.940 No, I'm not asking why they follow them.

03:38:29.360 I know why they follow them.

03:38:30.260 Ass and titties are pretty fucking sweet.

03:38:31.920 But I'm asking, like, why is it okay to justify it then?

03:38:36.940 Like, by your viewpoints, you should find it disgusting.

03:38:39.380 If you find promiscuity disgusting, you should be sick of it by a guy's phone who's full

03:38:42.780 of ass and titties.

03:38:44.860 Well, promiscuity and consume...

03:38:48.220 I mean, I personally think porn is, for example, porn's not great.

03:38:53.500 I don't think, me personally, I follow one account on my personal Instagram, which is my whatever

03:39:00.900 Instagram.

03:39:01.380 I don't follow chicks on Instagram.

03:39:05.340 I'm not liking their fucking bullshit pictures.

03:39:08.100 I'm not saying you do.

03:39:08.640 But that would be an enigma against the majority.

03:39:10.820 Sure.

03:39:11.500 Yeah, there's a ton of simps out there.

03:39:13.020 But my recommendation to men is don't be following these chicks on Instagram.

03:39:17.260 Don't follow chicks on Instagram.

03:39:19.020 So you agree that they should have some self-control?

03:39:21.860 Sure.

03:39:22.480 Okay.

03:39:22.860 Yeah.

03:39:23.440 Don't be simping over these chicks that wouldn't give you the time of day in public.

03:39:27.720 In person, I mean.

03:39:29.620 Sorry, I got a headache, guys.

03:39:30.760 I'm getting a little fucking tired.

03:39:32.860 Okay, let me continue with the soup chats.

03:39:35.460 Go ahead, Avery.

03:39:37.040 Ladies, what is your opinion on Brian not wanting to go down on girls ever?

03:39:41.400 In my opinion, what comes next is way back.

03:39:45.240 When she's already...

03:39:46.560 Is that really a fact?

03:39:48.800 Is that a fact?

03:39:49.160 You just lost all your riz points, my dude.

03:39:51.320 I'm out.

03:39:51.820 You should do the haram sound.

03:39:53.600 A win is a win.

03:39:55.100 What?

03:39:55.800 A win is a win.

03:39:56.700 What?

03:39:57.720 What?

03:39:59.080 You're like DJ Khaled.

03:40:00.200 I was just going to say that.

03:40:01.240 DJ Khaled said that.

03:40:03.660 You're not going to go down on women?

03:40:04.860 You're afraid of a little pussy?

03:40:05.860 Oh, you're afraid of a little pussy.

03:40:08.580 Do you want your dick sucked?

03:40:11.580 Yeah, I enjoy that.

03:40:13.080 All right.

03:40:13.560 Equal fights.

03:40:13.820 But you're not going to return the favor?

03:40:14.880 Equal fights.

03:40:17.240 I mean, it's just like, I don't really enjoy doing that.

03:40:20.140 Why?

03:40:20.320 That sucks.

03:40:20.740 What if somebody...

03:40:22.200 So you would expect a girl.

03:40:23.300 What if a girl didn't want to go down?

03:40:24.220 I don't expect a girl, like if a girl didn't want to go down on me, that's...

03:40:27.360 But in a relationship, I'm saying if you were in a relationship with somebody...

03:40:30.100 Sure.

03:40:30.120 What about it?

03:40:30.940 Would you...

03:40:31.500 If she wanted that from you, would you say no?

03:40:34.320 And what if she didn't want to return the favor if you didn't?

03:40:37.560 Well, I just don't do that.

03:40:40.700 So what do you mean?

03:40:41.380 Is there a reason you don't do that?

03:40:42.980 Is there a reason?

03:40:43.780 Do you think it emasculates you to please a woman?

03:40:47.880 I mean, you're making some assumptions there.

03:40:49.560 I'm asking.

03:40:50.460 Do you?

03:40:50.980 No, I don't think it's emasculating, but people are entitled to having sexual boundaries.

03:40:55.280 I'm just asking why.

03:40:56.420 In the same way that a woman, if she didn't want...

03:40:58.460 It's so funny.

03:40:59.240 Like, men are really just not allowed to have preferences, standards, and boundaries.

03:41:03.740 Neither are women.

03:41:04.540 If a girl doesn't...

03:41:05.340 If a girl doesn't...

03:41:05.660 If you stated it like you don't like oral sex, that's one thing.

03:41:08.340 If a girl doesn't say that you'll get your sex.

03:41:09.800 That's not true.

03:41:10.560 No, no, no.

03:41:11.060 You can have...

03:41:12.120 You can have a different standard on this.

03:41:15.560 So you can...

03:41:16.500 I can say, yes, I enjoy oral sex.

03:41:18.900 However, I don't enjoy giving oral sex.

03:41:21.320 That doesn't...

03:41:21.780 I don't think that makes you, like, wrong.

03:41:26.480 I'm not saying it makes you wrong.

03:41:27.640 I'm saying, what if you were in a relationship with somebody who was happy to go down on you,

03:41:32.520 but as soon as she realized you wouldn't return the favor, she rescinded her offer.

03:41:35.860 How would that make you feel?

03:41:36.700 I think that would be...

03:41:41.540 I would understand it.

03:41:43.000 I would understand why.

03:41:44.300 I don't think it has to be a vindictive tit-for-tat thing.

03:41:49.580 You know, people are entitled to have varying preferences, like...

03:41:55.700 Does female pleasure get you off?

03:41:59.460 It does, and there's other ways to make...

03:42:01.600 To give a girl pleasure.

03:42:03.160 Hands, toys, sex.

03:42:03.740 What if that is what gives her pleasure?

03:42:06.700 And she deliberately asks you for it.

03:42:08.080 They probably wouldn't be long-term compatible.

03:42:10.300 Well, that's not what I'm saying, even if it was a one-night stand.

03:42:13.160 Well, definitely don't go down on someone on a one-night stand.

03:42:15.860 Would you crazy?

03:42:16.540 Okay, okay.

03:42:17.220 What are you crazy?

03:42:19.340 Hey.

03:42:20.140 Oh, my gosh.

03:42:20.860 Bro, you can't go down on someone on a one-night stand.

03:42:22.180 I would suck a guy's dick on the first time.

03:42:24.160 Well, that's you.

03:42:24.760 A one-night stand.

03:42:25.720 Bro, guys, don't go down on chicks on a one-night stand.

03:42:29.920 Hello?

03:42:31.400 Viewers, this guy might be afraid of oral.

03:42:33.260 I'm not.

03:42:34.960 I don't understand how that's different than having sex.

03:42:37.720 I don't get it.

03:42:39.040 Well, I mean...

03:42:39.940 It's really not.

03:42:40.580 You're making such a big difference.

03:42:42.420 It's like pleasure is pleasure.

03:42:44.420 It's all the same.

03:42:45.120 In some ways, oral sex is more intimate than sex, I think.

03:42:47.900 Yeah, maybe.

03:42:48.580 Yeah.

03:42:49.100 I actually feel that way.

03:42:50.200 Yeah, yeah.

03:42:50.700 I think oral sex is a lot more intimate.

03:42:52.280 I agree with that, yeah.

03:42:53.880 Yeah, I mean...

03:42:54.600 Like, I don't want to see your eyeballs right there all the time, unless I've been with you multiple times.

03:42:59.380 I mean, I would say the bare minimum, if you are, as a guy, going to do that, you need to be in a monogamous, committed relationship with a girl.

03:43:09.600 So, I mean, that should be your base standard, I think.

03:43:12.440 But, okay, we've established that women, some, excuse me, that there's a hookup culture.

03:43:22.280 In a one-night stand, you have no guarantee that they didn't sleep with someone earlier that day, they didn't sleep with someone yesterday.

03:43:28.960 It would make me very uncomfortable to sleep with, go down on a girl, or even kiss a girl who fucked a guy the night before.

03:43:39.880 I am a monogamous individual.

03:43:42.860 That's fine.

03:43:43.580 I find it, again, disgusting, if I were to sleep with a girl who fucked a guy the night before.

03:43:49.280 Women can feel the same way.

03:43:51.300 Okay.

03:43:51.880 Okay.

03:43:52.660 Sure.

03:43:52.820 So, for a one-night stand, that's why I don't recommend, like, as a dude, going down on a girl.

03:43:59.080 And I guess the difference is, is because...

03:44:02.300 I thought you meant in general, you'll never go down on anybody.

03:44:06.280 Yeah, that too.

03:44:07.400 I don't do that.

03:44:08.360 Elle.

03:44:10.020 Elle.

03:44:10.420 He was talking about that.

03:44:11.920 He was talking about that.

03:44:12.940 It's so funny.

03:44:13.600 Like, the amount of shit, if there was a table of guys saying, girls who don't suck dick,

03:44:18.520 it's fucking Elle.

03:44:19.480 You guys would be like, bro, you guys are...

03:44:21.080 Because guys do say that, actually, quite often.

03:44:22.620 No, not really.

03:44:23.740 No, I hear it a lot, actually.

03:44:25.000 Yeah.

03:44:25.220 Actually, women are way more, like, vicious when it comes to this shit than men are.

03:44:29.520 I disagree, but that's fine.

03:44:30.760 You can think what you want.

03:44:32.080 I feel like if men were saying that, I would say fair.

03:44:35.140 That's fair.

03:44:35.800 I would say that is fair.

03:44:36.720 I like pleasuring my partner.

03:44:39.840 But, you know, you're right.

03:44:40.880 Everyone does have their boundaries.

03:44:41.780 Yeah, but I feel like most women would find it objectionable for being like, if guys were

03:44:45.940 like, oh, if she doesn't suck dick, there's something wrong with her.

03:44:51.280 She's not a...

03:44:52.600 I don't know what that fucking term is, but, like, a lot of women would be like, wow, that's

03:44:55.720 pretty crass.

03:44:56.720 But all of you at this table, like, were coiled because I have a sexual boundary.

03:45:01.200 If a woman had a sexual boundary that says, look, I don't feel comfortable sucking dick,

03:45:05.420 I don't think any of you would be like, huh, what the fuck is wrong with you, Elle?

03:45:11.000 I think it's fine to have a boundary, but I also think...

03:45:13.060 It's perfectly acceptable for men and women to have sexual boundaries.

03:45:16.720 I also think that a lot of men expect women to put out.

03:45:19.240 And, like, you really can't win if you're not putting out, you're a prude, and if you

03:45:23.780 do put out, you're a whore.

03:45:27.380 So, you can't win either way.

03:45:29.400 So, and I do hear it a lot, you're gonna say that it's not true, but I do hear a lot

03:45:32.820 of talks about, literally, there are memes, like, all over the Discord, everywhere, like,

03:45:36.940 if she doesn't suck dick, if she doesn't do this, if she doesn't put out, she's not worth

03:45:41.840 your time.

03:45:42.340 Like, why are you chasing after somebody who won't even, like, get you off?

03:45:45.700 Oh, yeah, for sure.

03:45:46.900 And it's like, we just have to accept that.

03:45:48.980 You know, they're gonna expect us to pleasure them.

03:45:51.640 So, I expect pleasure in return.

03:45:52.940 Women have the exact same expectations.

03:45:54.900 Sure, and that's fine.

03:45:55.720 That's why, that's why I'll recoil if I hear you say you don't eat pussy, just as I'm sure

03:46:00.800 if a girl is proudly saying she doesn't suck dick, men would recoil in the same way, because

03:46:04.840 initially, it's like, oh, interesting.

03:46:06.580 Oh, you don't do that.

03:46:08.100 Well, I'm not proudly saying it.

03:46:09.560 It just happens to be the case.

03:46:10.860 Even if you're not proudly saying it, the fact that you don't, it's gonna garner a response,

03:46:17.540 because it's interesting.

03:46:18.800 It's like, okay, interesting.

03:46:20.580 You don't hear that super often.

03:46:20.980 Sure, but I wouldn't, if a girl told me, and she was just like, hey, Brian, I'm just,

03:46:26.380 I don't really enjoy giving oral sex.

03:46:29.080 It's just not something I really enjoy doing.

03:46:30.940 I mean, whether that be a potential future partner, or just a casual conversation like

03:46:36.620 the one we're having, I'm not gonna be like, the fuck is wrong with you?

03:46:40.840 Okay, well, I'm glad you wouldn't do that, but a lot of people would.

03:46:43.880 I disagree.

03:46:44.540 Maybe in online spaces, but like in a in-person conversation, like most guys aren't gonna be

03:46:49.160 like, in mixed company, most guys aren't gonna be like, you don't suck dick?

03:46:53.580 What the fuck is wrong with you?

03:46:55.020 Have you ever been to a single frat party?

03:46:58.260 Like, have you been around, have you been around?

03:47:00.440 No, I don't, I don't really know, because I don't party.

03:47:02.640 Have you been around, like, college-aged men?

03:47:04.940 Like, they talk about this stuff openly and frequently.

03:47:08.640 Women more so than men on this, actually.

03:47:10.520 I disagree with that, actually.

03:47:11.700 Here's how I, well, the point, okay.

03:47:14.180 After you hook up with a guy, do you share with your girlfriends the details of your first

03:47:21.720 intimate encounter with a new guy?

03:47:24.140 Not every single time, no.

03:47:26.200 Guys don't talk about that shit.

03:47:27.800 Congrats, that's awesome.

03:47:29.580 Guys really aren't saying, girls will share with their girlfriends the size of a guy's

03:47:35.400 dick.

03:47:35.700 Sure, an encounter, but I'm saying men will more frequently talk about, like.

03:47:40.420 Well, I am.

03:47:42.040 Anyone here have an Audi, by the way?

03:47:43.980 Anyone have an Audi?

03:47:44.760 Are we talking about belly buttons?

03:47:45.720 No, I'm talking about labia.

03:47:47.140 No, I don't.

03:47:48.180 Aren't they all out?

03:47:49.540 I don't understand.

03:47:50.140 No, there's in-ies and out-ies.

03:47:51.720 Wait, wait.

03:47:52.240 Um, I don't know.

03:47:53.580 No.

03:47:55.300 All right, moving on.

03:47:56.680 Can we get some funnel evidence?

03:47:57.300 I don't even know what that means.

03:47:58.600 Can we get some funnel evidence?

03:47:59.700 Go ahead.

03:48:00.220 Can we get some funnel evidence?

03:48:01.320 Red-haired girl letting people do what they want is complete anarchy.

03:48:04.880 Yeah.

03:48:05.180 Society is defined by concrete rules and values.

03:48:08.220 Be promiscuous and promoted, it will slowly break down society.

03:48:11.660 The Roman Empire fell from within due to similar things you promote, dysfunction.

03:48:16.340 Duly noted.

03:48:17.020 I'll keep doing exactly what I'm doing.

03:48:19.860 Yo, Nobu, Nobu Naga.

03:48:21.600 Thank you for the 100, man.

03:48:22.340 Appreciate it.

03:48:23.560 Go ahead, Avery.

03:48:25.120 I'm a little Asperger-y and I'm a 43-year-old, successful and fit, and I can't count how many

03:48:29.840 times I've been told I'll make some girl really happy someday.

03:48:35.460 Rip.

03:48:35.960 Sorry, Louis.

03:48:36.880 Cheers.

03:48:37.840 Go ahead.

03:48:38.400 I'll pour one out.

03:48:39.440 Average guys are invisible to women.

03:48:41.380 We go through an astronomical amount of rejection just to get a chance at a date.

03:48:44.660 I checked out 10 years ago in my 20s and increasingly less interested in even trying.

03:48:50.620 Get your game up.

03:48:52.520 Yep.

03:48:53.140 I mean, a lot of people are checking out of the dating marketplace.

03:48:56.820 Go ahead.

03:48:58.320 Brian, for the love of God, please explain the difference between sexual attention and

03:49:02.500 relationship attention.

03:49:04.000 Men put women into two categories.

03:49:06.100 These women are confusing the two.

03:49:07.580 We will never wipe up the first.

03:49:09.720 Yeah.

03:49:10.220 So, I mean, really quick.

03:49:11.320 Basically, you have two different categories.

03:49:14.000 So, and this kind of relates to high body count.

03:49:18.060 A guy will hook up with a girl with a high body count.

03:49:20.300 Me, personally, I'd rather not.

03:49:22.500 But there are guys who will disregard certain things like your promiscuity.

03:49:27.380 He'll put you in the hookup category.

03:49:30.200 And then, so there's sexual attention and then there's relationship.

03:49:33.960 Women often confuse the two.

03:49:37.080 Word.

03:49:37.720 Sorry, Martin.

03:49:38.380 I've got a bump in headaches.

03:49:39.500 So, I'm like, I'm losing.

03:49:40.940 I'm going to wrap up soon.

03:49:41.740 Um, Cam from TMR Radio.

03:49:44.720 Thank you for the 50.

03:49:45.460 Go ahead, Avery.

03:49:46.640 Ladies, men have two different categories.

03:49:48.860 Fun and wife.

03:49:49.740 You all make this terrible conclusion that men are wifing these Insta 304s.

03:49:53.440 If your goal is to be a wife, don't follow the likes in this case.

03:49:57.360 Based.

03:49:57.860 Thank you, man.

03:49:58.400 Appreciate it.

03:49:58.800 They'll leave the wife or they'll cheat on the wife for the other one.

03:50:02.100 Hannah, how about a cup of joe?

03:50:06.340 I've actually not heard that one before.

03:50:08.300 It's better than Hannah Jo Mama seems to be the popular one.

03:50:13.700 Yeah.

03:50:14.800 Okay.

03:50:17.560 All right.

03:50:18.560 Okay.

03:50:19.200 So, let's see.

03:50:22.460 Last thing.

03:50:23.040 I want to bring it back.

03:50:23.580 So, again, do you think it's easier for guys to get laid?

03:50:29.360 Yes.

03:50:29.960 Than they make it seem.

03:50:31.060 Is it easier for them to get laid than women?

03:50:34.360 Um, listen.

03:50:37.380 All I'm saying is that, listen, they have side chicks.

03:50:43.320 So, how is it so hard if they have side chicks?

03:50:46.060 I don't understand.

03:50:47.240 Like, I get what you're saying.

03:50:48.400 I see the statistics.

03:50:49.800 I know that it is easier for women to have sex with a guy.

03:50:53.800 Like, I could probably just have sex with any guy I want to.

03:50:57.080 It doesn't matter.

03:50:57.760 Maybe not the same for a man.

03:51:00.180 But, I don't know.

03:51:02.600 I don't know.

03:51:06.780 Okay.

03:51:07.760 Here, let's do an experiment.

03:51:11.100 Okay.

03:51:11.460 Um, how do I do this?

03:51:15.300 Edie, after the show, would you like to hook up?

03:51:18.360 No.

03:51:19.380 10,000 night stand?

03:51:21.060 No.

03:51:21.640 Wait, what?

03:51:22.260 10,000 night stand?

03:51:23.560 Are you down?

03:51:24.240 Starting tonight?

03:51:25.880 10,000 night stand?

03:51:27.400 What does that mean?

03:51:28.260 He's asking you.

03:51:29.040 Are you down for a 10,000 night stand?

03:51:31.180 To stay with him for 10,000 days.

03:51:32.500 Like, 10 days.

03:51:33.960 Nights.

03:51:34.600 Nights.

03:51:34.980 Get it.

03:51:35.340 Correct.

03:51:35.820 No.

03:51:36.380 Rip.

03:51:36.980 RIP.

03:51:37.580 I don't like one night stands.

03:51:39.780 No, no, no.

03:51:40.180 10,000 night stand.

03:51:40.960 Are you talking about a relationship?

03:51:43.240 Yeah.

03:51:43.580 Yes.

03:51:44.760 Will you be my girlfriend?

03:51:48.220 No, I want to get to know you first.

03:51:49.700 I know we just met, but like, 10,000 night stand?

03:51:52.380 I'm sorry, Avery.

03:51:52.880 I'm cheating on you.

03:51:54.680 I can see that.

03:51:55.880 I told you not to.

03:51:58.200 Did I just?

03:51:59.620 Um, I'd like to get to know you more.

03:52:02.440 And then we'll see.

03:52:05.160 If that's the answer to your question that you want.

03:52:07.460 Okay, but not down for tonight, though.

03:52:11.080 No.

03:52:11.200 Take her on a date.

03:52:12.960 Oh, are you down for a date?

03:52:15.760 You can reject me.

03:52:16.620 It's okay.

03:52:17.940 I'm down to hang out.

03:52:19.880 You're down to kick it?

03:52:20.820 That sounds like a yes.

03:52:21.980 Is that a yes?

03:52:22.420 That sounds like a yes.

03:52:23.280 It seems a bit hesitant, but okay.

03:52:24.980 Avery, after the show tonight, wife, would you like to, would you hook up 10,000 night stand?

03:52:32.860 You down?

03:52:33.720 No, because I'm doing the three date rule now, remember?

03:52:36.840 Yeah, but it's, I get a pass, right?

03:52:39.440 I'm your husband.

03:52:40.640 You just shoot on me.

03:52:43.360 I'm confused.

03:52:47.120 What about you?

03:52:47.860 You down to, like, hook up after the show?

03:52:49.460 Me?

03:52:49.940 Yeah.

03:52:51.460 Into the mic?

03:52:52.520 Oh.

03:52:53.380 I don't know.

03:52:54.460 Oh, my God.

03:52:55.740 I don't know what I'm even trying to prove here.

03:52:57.280 I've got a fucking, I'm delusional.

03:52:59.360 I've got a fucking bumping headache.

03:53:00.700 Not if I'm the third choice.

03:53:03.640 Can you give me a back massage or something?

03:53:04.860 I'm fucking dying here.

03:53:05.680 Okay.

03:53:06.200 Kidding.

03:53:06.820 All right, guys.

03:53:08.580 Any final thoughts here before I wrap up the show?

03:53:12.260 Are you asking us?

03:53:13.340 Yeah, any final thoughts?

03:53:14.020 If you want to play Mario Kart, hit me up.

03:53:18.180 Mario Kart?

03:53:20.180 Okay.

03:53:20.500 I play online in the Japanese servers, so good luck.

03:53:25.340 Why do you play on the Japanese servers?

03:53:26.940 Because they're more challenging.

03:53:27.860 More competitive.

03:53:28.560 Oh.

03:53:29.160 I had no idea.

03:53:30.700 Okay, cool.

03:53:33.900 Anyone else?

03:53:34.680 Final thought?

03:53:36.240 To the people saying they were giving up, don't give up on dating.

03:53:39.320 Love is out there and love is real.

03:53:41.540 Don't give up.

03:53:42.320 Like, you can find someone like.

03:53:44.140 Passport pro.

03:53:44.800 Oh, I needed that.

03:53:45.680 Thank you.

03:53:46.480 Yeah.

03:53:47.480 Get your passports.

03:53:48.320 Okay.

03:53:48.760 Here, let me just send an asteroid just to end the show, I guess.

03:53:53.260 Sorry, guys.

03:53:54.040 I got, my neck's been fucking killing me.

03:53:55.680 I've got a bumping headache.

03:53:56.640 I kind of lost it there at the last hour of the show.

03:53:58.500 So, guys, last, oh, actually, let's do Twitch really quick.

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03:54:23.040 Thank you guys so much, so much.

03:54:24.500 Eric, pull up that last super chat.

03:54:28.460 Redhead looks familiar.

03:54:29.400 Wasn't she on FNF?

03:54:30.260 Were you on FNF?

03:54:31.060 What's that?

03:54:31.640 Fresh and Fit.

03:54:32.480 What is that?

03:54:33.280 I guess not.

03:54:33.700 Another podcast.

03:54:34.300 Oh, this is my first podcast ever.

03:54:36.140 Oh, nice.

03:54:36.900 Cam from TMR Radio.

03:54:37.940 Thank you.

03:54:38.240 Go ahead, Avery.

03:54:39.160 I have been married 15 years and have never cheated on my wife.

03:54:42.340 Women statistically cheat more than men.

03:54:44.400 Even if he did cheat in your hypothetical, who has the name, title, lifestyle, and kids?

03:54:49.000 The wife is still winning over a whole.

03:54:52.080 All right.

03:54:52.380 Word.

03:54:53.200 Well, shout out to you for not cheating.

03:54:54.980 I appreciate that.

03:54:56.000 All right.

03:54:57.740 Eric, hide that, please.

03:55:01.860 Yo, Zoe, thank you to 50.

03:55:03.040 Brian, keep up the great work.

03:55:04.120 Enjoying your streams.

03:55:04.840 Red is giving everyone the headache.

03:55:05.980 Hang in there.

03:55:06.400 Your response?

03:55:08.020 You're welcome.

03:55:10.940 All right.

03:55:11.920 Okay, guys.

03:55:12.640 Hit the like button on your way out, please.

03:55:14.740 Thank you for tuning in tonight.

03:55:16.440 You could have been anywhere in the world, but you were here with me.

03:55:20.680 I appreciate that.

03:55:21.940 Thank you to everyone who super chats and supports the show.

03:55:24.620 Thank you to the panel.

03:55:26.360 Really appreciate you guys.

03:55:27.260 It was a good panel tonight.

03:55:29.520 Thank you to all our chat mods.

03:55:31.020 Thank you to Eric.

03:55:32.320 Any women who want to be on the show, DM at whatever, at BD underscore Atlas.

03:55:38.440 My DMs are open if you're short or have a large labia.

03:55:41.620 Okay, I don't know.

03:55:42.280 Guys, I'm delusional.

03:55:43.120 I'm sorry.

03:55:43.980 We'll be live again Tuesday at 7 p.m. Pacific.

03:55:47.320 And just a reminder, we are going to take a couple weeks off.

03:55:50.300 But yeah, we'll be live again Tuesday, 7 p.m. Pacific.

03:55:53.180 I have a good panel lined up.

03:55:54.440 So we'll see you next time, guys.

03:55:57.400 Have a good night.

03:55:58.420 And yeah, good night, guys.

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Whatever Podcast - March 28, 2023

Dating Talk #66

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