Whatever Podcast - Dating Talk #69

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00:04:34.360 Okay. Without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves. So please tell us

00:04:38.240 your name, age, and occupation. Go ahead. Hi, I'm Kiko. I'm 23. I go to UCSB and I also bartend.

00:04:47.720 I'm Allie, better known for Alweezy. I'm 23 years old from Arizona and I'm your certified bad bitch. 1.00

00:04:54.220 You're, huh? A certified baddie. Talking to the mic. Yeah, talking to the mic just so they can hear you. 1.00

00:05:00.100 Say your, say your occupation one more time for us. Just so they can. My occupation is a certified

00:05:05.100 bad bitch. What was your age? What was your age again? Very much baddie vibes. I'm 23 years old. 1.00

00:05:10.160 Okay. And Kiko, 23, right? Yeah. Okay. 23, 23. And certified bad, bad bitch or boss? 1.00

00:05:16.120 Very much baddie vibes. Like full-time baddie. No breaks. It's very much full-time. What does that, 1.00

00:05:24.340 what does that mean? Can you explain that? It's just a lifestyle. Like it's, I mean, if you get it,

00:05:29.760 you get it. The rules are there. I mean, I feel like every girl can, every woman can be a certified

00:05:33.780 baddie. It's just the mindset and it's a full-time job. But if you had, if there was a deaf, 0.98

00:05:38.340 if there was a dictionary and you were hired by Webster's to define certified bad bitch, 1.00

00:05:43.600 is that what it is? Yes. How, what, what would be the dictionary definition of a certified bad 0.99

00:05:48.940 bitch? I would have to say, I mean, if just like toning it down completely, just a woman who's 1.00

00:05:55.240 confident in herself, does whatever she wants for herself, nobody else, just woman, whatever, 0.99

00:06:01.840 men, whatever, anybody can be a certified bad bitch. Is that the, it's just, I think it's just the 1.00

00:06:06.320 level of confidence and it's the mindset for sure. Is that the occupation you list on your taxes?

00:06:11.300 Oh, for sure. Very much that. Very much the vibes. Okay. Good times. What about you?

00:06:18.340 My name's also Allie. I'm 19 and I'm a student at Santa Barbara City College.

00:06:24.500 Are you also a certified bad bitch? I try to be. Yeah. 1.00

00:06:32.620 My name's Madison. I'm 18. I'm a student at SBCC and I'm studying econ and accounting.

00:06:41.300 I'm Billy Ray. I'm 25 and I make men's dating advice content.

00:06:47.560 My name is Debra. I'm 23 and I make conservative content.

00:06:53.300 My name is Samuel. I'm a biochemist full-time, but I'm also full-time jujitsu artist. Catch me live

00:07:00.420 on UFC Fight Pass this Saturday, competing to win gold.

00:07:04.600 How old are you, Sam?

00:07:05.540 Oh, I'm 27.

00:07:07.520 My name's Chase. 28 years old, professional photographer and brand consultant.

00:07:11.700 What up, fam? Good to see you guys here.

00:07:13.700 Okay. Rock and roll. Everyone's Instagrams are in the description.

00:07:17.080 So we're going to go around the table once more.

00:07:18.760 What is your current relationship status?

00:07:21.860 Are you single? Do you got friends with benefits?

00:07:24.080 Are you in the talking stage? Situationship? Relationship?

00:07:27.200 And also, in addition to that, your longest relationship. Go ahead.

00:07:30.620 Yeah, I'm in a very committed relationship with my boyfriend right now.

00:07:33.760 And my longest relationship was like two and a half years.

00:07:38.060 I'm very much as single as they come. 0.97

00:07:40.380 And my longest, I guess no real relationship yet.

00:07:44.180 But my longest talking phase has to be almost a year, I'd have to say.

00:07:47.420 Longest talking phase?

00:07:49.100 Yeah.

00:07:49.240 Have you ever had a boyfriend?

00:07:51.960 No. Like, officially, no.

00:07:53.940 Okay. But you have had like a concurrent period of time.

00:07:57.340 Like, you said a one-year period of time where you did have.

00:07:59.760 Yeah. Very much like a year-long talking stage.

00:08:01.840 Year-long talking stage.

00:08:03.580 Yeah.

00:08:04.180 What is a talking stage? So what is that?

00:08:07.440 If anyone else wants to chime in, what is a talking stage?

00:08:10.240 Hell.

00:08:12.760 It's like a question of loyalty, honestly.

00:08:15.560 Like, you're just wondering at that point if you're in the talking stage.

00:08:19.060 Yeah. What did that mean for you?

00:08:21.020 They couldn't have explained it any better.

00:08:23.000 It's literally hell.

00:08:24.680 Purgatory.

00:08:24.880 Like, it tests your loyalty, absolutely.

00:08:28.140 Wait, it what?

00:08:29.100 Like, tests the loyalty.

00:08:30.480 For you?

00:08:31.300 Or for the guy?

00:08:31.840 No, like, in general.

00:08:32.540 Like, for both parties, I guess.

00:08:34.220 Did you want commitment, but he wasn't willing to give it?

00:08:36.760 Basically.

00:08:37.720 Basically, it was what it was.

00:08:40.000 Yeah.

00:08:40.720 Okay.

00:08:40.980 They couldn't have said it any better.

00:08:42.240 I feel like the talking stage is like when you add something to your cart on a website,

00:08:45.620 and there's like only one left, but it's reserved because it's in your cart, but you don't actually

00:08:49.320 buy it.

00:08:50.000 It's a pretty good metaphor.

00:08:50.640 That's kind of what it is.

00:08:51.500 Yeah.

00:08:51.780 Thank you.

00:08:52.400 Yeah.

00:08:55.740 I'm currently in a relationship.

00:08:58.540 This is also my first relationship.

00:09:00.480 How long have you been in seeing this guy?

00:09:04.780 I've been, we just started dating on the 5th, actually, so it's pretty fresh, but I've been

00:09:11.280 talking to him for about six months, or I've known him for about six months.

00:09:15.380 Were you guys friends for the first five months?

00:09:18.600 Kind of.

00:09:19.380 Kind of.

00:09:19.640 Or was it the talking stage for the five months?

00:09:21.820 It was a talking stage.

00:09:23.320 Yeah, I would say it was a talking stage, yeah.

00:09:25.500 For five months, and now you guys have been dating for one month?

00:09:28.160 Yes.

00:09:29.160 Who brought the topic to wanting it to become something more serious?

00:09:34.680 Was it you?

00:09:35.140 Was it him?

00:09:35.640 Was it kind of mutual?

00:09:36.660 I think it was kind of mutual.

00:09:41.040 Straight into the mic?

00:09:42.020 It was more of if, I would say the timing, sort of.

00:09:48.440 Timing?

00:09:48.840 But I think it was just a mutual thing.

00:09:50.600 What do you mean timing?

00:09:52.140 I don't think he originally wanted to start dating, necessarily.

00:09:56.200 In college, he didn't.

00:09:58.500 He didn't see it in his future, but we just both kind of started liking each other, so

00:10:04.940 it got, I don't know, changed up.

00:10:07.520 So, sure.

00:10:08.960 Question.

00:10:09.960 During the five-month talking stage, were you, like, dating other guys, too?

00:10:18.200 No.

00:10:18.900 Just him?

00:10:19.820 Yeah.

00:10:20.840 Okay.

00:10:21.140 Was he seeing other girls?

00:10:23.740 No.

00:10:24.820 You sure about that?

00:10:25.620 You kind of smiled a little bit when...

00:10:27.580 No.

00:10:28.840 You're not sure about that?

00:10:30.780 Here, talk.

00:10:31.580 Try to be straight into the mic if you can.

00:10:33.000 Um, possibly in the beginning, but not towards the end, or...

00:10:41.140 Okay.

00:10:41.760 Isn't that kind of what the talking stage is?

00:10:43.380 It's like, you meet someone, and you guys are still dating, and, like, you both know that

00:10:48.320 you're seeing other people, but no one's willing to commit yet?

00:10:53.460 Right?

00:10:54.020 And, like, that lasts for as long until that person either finds someone that they really

00:10:59.140 like while they're dating other people, or they kind of just fall back on whoever they're

00:11:04.080 talking to at that time.

00:11:05.440 It's like the modern version of dating, like how we're supposed to go on dates and get to

00:11:09.400 know somebody, but no one's going on, really, dates anymore.

00:11:12.260 They just start hooking up, so just imagine how adults would say, like, oh, we started

00:11:16.320 dating, going on dates.

00:11:18.600 And you guys are okay with that?

00:11:20.400 I'm not.

00:11:21.760 You're not?

00:11:22.760 Allie, were you okay with that in the beginning, or was it a struggle?

00:11:26.780 In the beginning, it was okay, but we were, or we both talked to each other about it, and

00:11:32.340 we were, like, exclusive with each other for a couple months, so, before we started dating.

00:11:37.100 How soon did you know that you wanted to, like, date him exclusively?

00:11:40.960 Um, I would say probably, like, the second month in.

00:11:48.660 Would you say it took him a little bit longer to come to the same conclusion?

00:11:52.160 Um, I would say it was pretty mutual, but just, again, with the timing, it, I don't know, honestly.

00:12:02.760 That's okay.

00:12:03.040 It just ended up working out, so, and I'm very happy, so.

00:12:06.020 Sweet.

00:12:09.600 Oh, sorry, one thing, can I have you scoot your microphone closer to, uh, yeah, scoot it this

00:12:15.740 way a little bit?

00:12:17.140 Yeah.

00:12:18.080 Perfect.

00:12:18.700 Go ahead.

00:12:19.520 I'm still very taken, um, and my longest relationship has been 10 months.

00:12:25.340 Is that your current one?

00:12:26.380 No.

00:12:26.980 Okay.

00:12:27.720 Still very taken.

00:12:28.800 Are you still very much going to marry your current boyfriend?

00:12:31.880 Absolutely.

00:12:33.000 Okay, cool.

00:12:34.220 Does he feel the same way?

00:12:35.560 Mm-hmm.

00:12:36.020 Nice.

00:12:36.860 Congrats.

00:12:37.460 Thank you.

00:12:38.000 Yeah.

00:12:38.160 Uh, I am in a relationship.

00:12:42.000 He's watching this.

00:12:44.200 Okay.

00:12:44.860 I love you.

00:12:45.580 Um, and the longest relationship I was in was about four-ish years.

00:12:53.100 Oh, so I wasn't laughing at you.

00:12:54.540 Sorry.

00:12:54.900 Uh, okay, cool, cool.

00:12:57.640 What about you?

00:12:59.200 He's definitely watching this, too, so we're going to be nice and say situationship, but I

00:13:04.360 am some, basically single right now, I guess.

00:13:06.660 Wait.

00:13:08.120 Hold on.

00:13:09.480 I, I, can you explain that?

00:13:10.840 I'm giving you on.

00:13:11.400 She's giving him more credit than he is.

00:13:13.340 This will catalyze a fun conversation later.

00:13:14.820 Yeah.

00:13:15.680 Let's say we met, things were great, um, and then I just didn't see it going in the direction

00:13:20.520 that I wanted it to, so I ended things, and then I was at my friend's wedding, and

00:13:24.680 I was like, oh, what's the harm?

00:13:26.280 And just texting him, and then we hung out a few times, no hooking up, just truly hanging

00:13:30.560 out, and things are going well now, so we're going to see, but I also don't believe

00:13:34.040 in being exclusive unless you're actually dating.

00:13:35.920 I think that's just a way to trap people.

00:13:38.460 Huh?

00:13:38.980 Wait.

00:13:40.520 Um, yeah, I think-

00:13:41.580 You don't believe in being exclusive?

00:13:43.460 I know, I believe in being exclusive.

00:13:45.140 I'm very for monogamy, but I think it's like a modern day thing, like, we're exclusive,

00:13:48.740 but we're not dating, like, that's just such a scam for people who don't want to actually

00:13:52.400 fully send a relationship.

00:13:54.220 Wait, but I thought you said you don't believe in being exclusive unless you're dating.

00:13:59.300 Yeah, like, people will be exclusive, talking to each other, they're not going to hook up

00:14:03.960 with other people, but it's like, that's not my boyfriend, that's not my girlfriend, I think

00:14:07.720 that's a scam.

00:14:08.640 That's so weird, who does that?

00:14:10.340 That's the talking stage.

00:14:11.740 That's so weird.

00:14:12.400 It's part of the talking stage, yeah.

00:14:13.940 But so what you're saying is when you are in the talking stage, or you're in a situationship,

00:14:20.420 you're not exclusive with the person you're in a talking stage with?

00:14:25.160 Until you're officially dating, I would say, like, you're allowed to go on other dates,

00:14:28.700 I don't think you should have sex with other people, depending on how serious a relationship

00:14:31.640 is, but going on other dates, yeah, don't, if you're not dating somebody, if you don't

00:14:35.560 have a boyfriend, nothing should stop you from finding that person.

00:14:38.640 Wait, do you think that you should be able to have sex with other people when you're

00:14:41.600 in that relationship?

00:14:42.480 No, of course not, I'm very big fan of monogamy, but I also think the talking stage,

00:14:46.940 different than the one year, I think that would be a situationship, I think the talking

00:14:50.620 stage is, like, the first three months, and those few months, it's kind of natural,

00:14:55.020 if you don't want to go on other dates with other people, you're kind of seeing where

00:14:57.660 it goes, but then once that time is up, if that just continues, nine months of being

00:15:01.880 in the talking stage, you don't deserve to be exclusive with that person, either commit

00:15:05.520 or go find somebody else that you actually want to commit to.

00:15:08.380 Based.

00:15:08.940 Dude, who stays in the talking stage for nine months?

00:15:11.340 That's crazy.

00:15:12.240 That's the lie.

00:15:13.180 When people say men know, they know. 1.00

00:15:15.620 If you are with the one, you won't want to date anybody else, you won't be like, I need

00:15:20.260 to keep my options open, you're going to immediately want to commit to them.

00:15:24.040 I used to think the same way until I met my boyfriend, now I understand.

00:15:28.020 Once you meet someone, you don't.

00:15:30.760 What are you laughing at, bro?

00:15:31.400 You're right.

00:15:32.160 Just, not nice.

00:15:33.480 What are you laughing at, bro?

00:15:34.460 Don't worry about it.

00:15:35.120 I think Kiko's right, but the problem with dating these days is that men don't want to

00:15:44.060 give away that commitment too quickly because they're afraid that the woman is going to get

00:15:48.680 turned off by that.

00:15:49.460 So when a man finds someone that, a girl that he really likes and really wants to pursue,

00:15:54.560 I think a lot of guys know not to show like, that they're really, really into her right

00:15:59.960 away because it's going to scare her off.

00:16:01.860 And that's how you get stuck.

00:16:02.860 So that's how these, you get stuck in this limbo on both sides.

00:16:06.960 Ladies, do you guys agree with that?

00:16:08.620 For most of us, yeah.

00:16:09.220 Do you think he's right with that?

00:16:10.120 Yeah.

00:16:11.060 I kind of get your point definitely with that, yeah.

00:16:12.960 I think that could be like just a modern day thing that people are very scared of like

00:16:16.560 intense relationships these days.

00:16:18.380 That's why there's talking stages, all these things we don't actually have to commit.

00:16:21.620 But if you compare one year situationship to people who have been dating for five months,

00:16:26.020 I don't think there's a big difference.

00:16:27.320 You're hanging out all the time.

00:16:28.340 You're going on dates.

00:16:29.140 You're not really wanting to see other people.

00:16:30.860 So I think that's just a product of our times that people are just scared of the real

00:16:33.780 thing.

00:16:35.840 I would say so.

00:16:38.240 Exclusivity and marriage, you know, you run the risk of ending up with the wrong person

00:16:41.820 and then hitched for life.

00:16:43.080 And that's a scary thing for people.

00:16:45.160 But also at the same time, I don't know, like I'm the kind of guy, like if I really

00:16:49.060 like a girl and I know I could see myself spending the rest of my life with her, I know

00:16:52.680 pretty quickly, you know.

00:16:54.500 And I don't know.

00:16:55.660 My friends, they have a saying, especially when it comes to like relationships or like

00:17:00.020 big career decisions. 0.99

00:17:00.820 They say if it's not a fuck yes, then it's a no. 0.99

00:17:03.100 Yeah. 0.99

00:17:03.260 I say if it's a maybe, then it's a hard no.

00:17:06.000 Right.

00:17:06.180 Yeah.

00:17:06.700 Especially when it comes to like marriage or like ending up with somebody long term.

00:17:09.600 Like if it's like a maybe and you're like iffy about it, like it should be something

00:17:12.280 where you're like, yes, in my opinion.

00:17:14.480 Same thing when I buy clothes.

00:17:15.680 I'm like, if I'm not obsessed with this when I try it on, I'm never going to wear it at

00:17:18.660 home.

00:17:19.300 I have that mindset with men, but not clothes yet.

00:17:21.480 I need to get that.

00:17:22.560 Maybe it would save me some money.

00:17:23.760 Yeah.

00:17:26.660 What was the question again?

00:17:27.740 The longest you've been in a relationship?

00:17:28.980 Relationship status from us.

00:17:31.040 Flann Life gifted a ton of memberships here.

00:17:33.900 Yo, Flann Life, thanks for the big 20 gifted memberships, man.

00:17:36.760 Appreciate it.

00:17:37.760 I thought you were clapping.

00:17:39.540 What's the trigger for that, by the way?

00:17:41.780 Anybody?

00:17:42.420 Chat?

00:17:43.200 Well, okay.

00:17:44.280 Relationship status.

00:17:45.160 Current relationship status, longest relationship.

00:17:46.780 I'm recently single, and my longest relationship was about three and a half years.

00:17:52.540 Nice.

00:17:53.240 Yeah, I'm currently single.

00:17:54.380 Longest relationship was like a year and a half.

00:17:56.800 Okay.

00:17:57.300 And do you want to, for the new viewers who are tuning in, why don't you tell us a little

00:18:02.300 bit about what you're looking for, Chase?

00:18:04.200 Me personally?

00:18:05.760 Yes.

00:18:06.360 Yeah, I mean, bro.

00:18:08.060 And what you're doing, too.

00:18:10.640 In terms of finding that?

00:18:12.400 No, in terms of the commitment that you've made, that you're waiting for something.

00:18:23.760 I am.

00:18:24.740 Why don't you tell us?

00:18:25.580 Yeah, I want to find my wife, bro.

00:18:27.580 Tell them how you're born again.

00:18:28.800 What are the requirements?

00:18:30.220 What are the requirements for a wife? 1.00

00:18:31.880 Well, she's got to love the Lord.

00:18:34.740 She's got to be unvaccinated. 1.00

00:18:36.420 She has to be politically conservative. 1.00

00:18:38.940 I think if somebody truly loves the Lord, they will naturally be politically conservative.

00:18:43.400 It has to be traditionally feminine. 0.98

00:18:46.060 Are you shaking your head at that?

00:18:47.840 Keep going.

00:18:49.640 Let's get ready to rumble. 0.85

00:18:52.320 You know, traditionally feminine, if a woman loves the Lord and she subscribes to biblical

00:18:58.220 values, she will understand that it is the man's job to lead the family, provide for the

00:19:03.140 family, and to lead the family under the headship of Christ.

00:19:06.240 And it's the woman's job to submit to that man's headship in the family. 1.00

00:19:10.520 So a woman that's cool with the idea of submission. 1.00

00:19:12.800 Now, a lot of women have issues with the idea of submission, understandably so. 1.00

00:19:17.360 What I would be bringing to the table in a scenario like marriage is actually being worthy

00:19:21.940 of submitting to as a man, right?

00:19:25.160 Earning her submission through good leadership.

00:19:26.920 But yeah, dude, I'm looking for a wife and I'm not like intensely looking.

00:19:32.620 I recently went through an interesting relationship situation and I'm kind of taking a break from

00:19:40.320 looking for the time being.

00:19:42.140 His DMs are open though.

00:19:45.000 Yes.

00:19:45.740 Yes.

00:19:45.960 DMs are open.

00:19:46.700 Yes, they are.

00:19:48.240 So do you want a virgin?

00:19:50.540 Ideally.

00:19:51.140 Absolutely.

00:19:51.460 Can she be a born again virgin? 0.97

00:19:52.900 That was my question.

00:19:53.960 I mean, I'm not like terribly opposed to it.

00:19:58.220 Is it?

00:19:58.540 Like you could call me a born again virgin in the sense that I stopped having sex three

00:20:02.240 years ago. 0.60

00:20:02.940 I mean, last time I was on one day, you called yourself a born again virgin?

00:20:05.420 I don't know if I use those words.

00:20:07.280 You said that you.

00:20:08.400 I think I simply said that I started saving myself a few years ago.

00:20:12.960 I don't believe in the whole idea of like born again virginity.

00:20:15.820 Maybe someone else said it.

00:20:17.640 I don't think you can like reclaim your virginity.

00:20:19.720 Is it like a complete deal breaker if she's not a virgin? 0.60

00:20:23.380 It's not a complete deal breaker.

00:20:24.680 No.

00:20:25.020 But like if she has a high body count, like, you know. 1.00

00:20:27.220 What's considered high?

00:20:28.900 I mean, if her body count.

00:20:29.780 How many do you have?

00:20:30.600 If her body count is higher.

00:20:31.960 12.

00:20:32.720 Chase, is that too much?

00:20:33.700 Including girls and boys.

00:20:35.040 If Kiko became a born again virgin, do you think that there's a potential match between 0.89

00:20:41.660 you and Kiko?

00:20:42.160 If Kiko and I got married, one of us would not make it out of the marriage alive.

00:20:45.400 Probably me.

00:20:47.540 I've never touched anyone in my life.

00:20:49.920 Not even your current boyfriend?

00:20:51.580 I mean, like in a harmful way.

00:20:53.640 Like I've never gotten into a fight.

00:20:54.780 I've never heard of a girl.

00:20:56.180 I'm not a physical person.

00:20:57.900 You've never thrown like an axe at a boyfriend or anything like that?

00:21:00.080 Axe? 0.99

00:21:01.980 Like a Tupperware or some shit. 0.99

00:21:04.160 Yeah. 0.96

00:21:04.720 Yeah.

00:21:04.940 No.

00:21:05.200 If her body counts higher than mine, which is seven, it's a deal breaker. 0.93

00:21:08.380 Well, technically, because you probably wouldn't count girls for me, right?

00:21:12.340 So mine would be under seven then.

00:21:14.700 You know.

00:21:15.120 I would count girls.

00:21:16.540 Oh, you would?

00:21:17.020 Okay.

00:21:17.120 That's also kind of a deal breaker for me.

00:21:19.220 If she's been with girls?

00:21:22.260 Yeah, totally.

00:21:23.160 That's a deal breaker for you?

00:21:24.280 Totally, dude.

00:21:25.100 Why is that? 0.97

00:21:26.060 Because I don't want the bisexual woman, bro. 1.00

00:21:30.620 Sorry, Kiko.

00:21:31.860 I mean, do you think I was on a date chase anyways?

00:21:33.800 Are you bisexual or are you just, was it just, you know?

00:21:40.140 You know, I, I, I think we all know.

00:21:43.340 Well, my, when I say my, my longest relationship was with a girl.

00:21:46.220 When I say the two, when I refer to the two and a half, but that was in high school.

00:21:48.900 I have not dated or like been with a girl since high school.

00:21:51.860 So I, I, when I call myself bisexual today, I don't know anymore.

00:21:57.180 Would you, would you marry a woman?

00:21:58.560 That's the thing.

00:21:59.500 That's why I can realize I probably wouldn't know.

00:22:01.660 That's why we ended.

00:22:02.840 I don't, I don't see myself living that life.

00:22:05.060 When did you know that you were bisexual?

00:22:07.980 Always.

00:22:09.480 Always?

00:22:09.940 Like when I was younger, like I.

00:22:11.740 You were attracted to women when you were younger?

00:22:13.220 Yeah, probably.

00:22:14.260 I find them attractive, but I realized I don't plan.

00:22:18.060 Yeah.

00:22:18.240 I would not marry a girl or go past that. 1.00

00:22:21.660 Why wouldn't you marry a girl? 1.00

00:22:23.460 Because I, I mean, honestly, if I'm being for real, the main reason was because I'm not

00:22:29.900 going to pay to have kids when I know I, I'm fertile myself. 0.99

00:22:32.720 I rather not have to spend thousands of dollars to have a child and I can sound pussy. 1.00

00:22:38.760 It's easier. 0.99

00:22:40.260 It's simply easier to live a heteronormative life.

00:22:42.800 You mentioned that you, uh, recently came back to the church.

00:22:46.300 Is that correct?

00:22:46.980 Mm-hmm.

00:22:47.160 Yes.

00:22:47.800 Congratulations on that.

00:22:48.820 Thank you.

00:22:49.340 Yeah.

00:22:50.400 Um, yeah.

00:22:52.600 Hallelujah.

00:22:53.300 Uh, with recently coming back to the church, do you feel like that would, uh, sorry, go

00:23:00.400 ahead.

00:23:00.820 Do you feel like with recently coming back to the church, do you feel like that precludes

00:23:04.580 you from having more relationships with women?

00:23:06.520 Do you feel like there'd be a contradiction of your faith there?

00:23:09.020 No.

00:23:09.180 No, because honestly, before how I just came back to my, to the church right now, the last

00:23:13.980 time that I was in Christianity was with my ex-girlfriend.

00:23:18.280 We used to go to church every Sunday.

00:23:20.140 And none of your pastors or priests said anything about your guys' voice?

00:23:22.680 Our church loved us.

00:23:23.980 Really, really inspired us.

00:23:25.280 They are true Christians that realize we're all sinners and no sin is greater than the

00:23:29.380 other.

00:23:30.120 So.

00:23:30.540 They just don't follow the Bible.

00:23:32.300 They do follow the Bible.

00:23:33.100 And they follow the Bible, how the fact that they are not there to judge, we only, until

00:23:36.880 that day comes.

00:23:38.300 My pastor is not the one set out to judge me and my decisions.

00:23:41.700 There are so many things in the Bible that is considered a sin.

00:23:44.360 You can't just ostracize some people and say those sins are worse than the others.

00:23:49.540 That's not how it works.

00:23:50.440 All sins are equal.

00:23:51.920 That's not true.

00:23:53.020 It is true.

00:23:53.880 No, it's not.

00:23:54.580 And love thy neighbor, you know?

00:23:55.980 Scripturally speaking, yes.

00:23:57.200 But loving thy neighbor does not mean approving of the evils that thy neighbor is doing.

00:24:01.460 Right?

00:24:01.720 This is why Jesus, when he would speak to people, he would tell them, go and sin no more.

00:24:04.820 Right?

00:24:05.000 He would love them and he would give them mercy.

00:24:08.420 But he would still forgive me tomorrow.

00:24:09.960 So, what's happening?

00:24:15.900 Brian's incredibly elongated sound effects.

00:24:18.980 Yeah, he would love them and he would give them mercy, but also at the same time, he

00:24:21.880 would tell them, go and sin no more.

00:24:23.320 Right?

00:24:23.480 And there is a hierarchy of sin.

00:24:25.160 For example, there's the unforgivable sin, which is to blaspheme the Holy Spirit.

00:24:28.740 Right?

00:24:28.960 There's a hierarchy of sin there.

00:24:31.120 But, yeah, I don't know.

00:24:34.040 I don't think, I mean, I know that a church affirming same-sex relationships is not operating

00:24:39.060 in accordance with what the word says.

00:24:41.360 There's many churches that do and those are the churches I agree with.

00:24:42.840 Okay, cool story.

00:24:43.920 So, Flann life, I forgot to give you the air horn here, but thanks for the 20 gifted men

00:24:50.760 and thank you for all our new members.

00:24:52.460 Appreciate it.

00:24:53.420 Okay, so, first thing, I, oh, I kind of scuffed, well, that's fine.

00:24:58.960 So, first thing, first, what is a pick-me?

00:25:05.700 Tay.

00:25:06.780 Tay is a pick-me. 0.68

00:25:07.700 The one that sat right there, yeah, that lights can go, ultimate pick-me definition.

00:25:11.280 If you look up on Webster, her face will pop up probably.

00:25:13.600 Sure.

00:25:14.280 But what does that mean to be a pick-me?

00:25:17.440 A woman that seeks male validation. 0.99

00:25:19.980 I'm called a pick-me every day.

00:25:20.920 Are you a pick-me?

00:25:21.700 Are you a pick-me?

00:25:22.540 I don't believe that I'm a pick-me now.

00:25:23.960 But they call you a pick-me.

00:25:25.420 I don't do things to attract male validation.

00:25:29.800 I just...

00:25:30.700 You and your boyfriend.

00:25:31.940 I don't intentionally do things that are, like, males are going to love me today.

00:25:38.940 Yeah, you got together with your boyfriend before you built this brand that's geared towards

00:25:42.300 men, correct?

00:25:43.520 It's a complicated story.

00:25:45.460 Do you want to hear the quick version?

00:25:46.640 Sure.

00:25:46.840 So we dated a couple years back, and I made a video making fun of his apartment, and it

00:25:52.460 went viral.

00:25:53.740 And then we broke up because he was moving, and I didn't see myself leaving New Jersey.

00:25:59.640 And I continued with social media, and he doesn't have social media, so he didn't know.

00:26:05.580 And then when we got back together about a year ago, he found out that I continued doing

00:26:12.020 this and giving men's dating advice.

00:26:14.960 And over the past year, he helped me build the brand, and he is, I always say, the brains

00:26:21.360 behind my whole operation.

00:26:23.320 He just started his own page.

00:26:24.660 It's DMD.

00:26:25.180 Wait, so hold on.

00:26:27.140 A male is the brains behind your operation? 0.99

00:26:30.360 I would say he's...

00:26:32.280 I have to credit him with a lot of it, yes.

00:26:33.920 He helps with the financial side.

00:26:37.600 I mean, I need him for the financial side.

00:26:40.180 I definitely write a lot of my own content, but he always...

00:26:44.200 We collaborate.

00:26:45.000 We talk it over.

00:26:47.040 I'm inspired by a lot of the things that he says, and a lot of it...

00:26:50.840 I think especially...

00:26:52.280 I used to give a lot more dating advice.

00:26:54.440 Now I think I scoot it more towards relationships, and I learned a lot about...

00:26:59.600 Oh, go ahead.

00:27:00.080 Like dating, as in, like, flirting tips.

00:27:02.780 Okay.

00:27:03.040 How to secure the date.

00:27:04.100 Right.

00:27:04.320 I was going to ask you what the difference is, but okay.

00:27:05.460 Now I give more, like, healthy relationship, because I see it.

00:27:09.000 I learned...

00:27:10.360 You talked about submission.

00:27:12.440 I think a lot of women view that word as an icky term, and once you... 1.00

00:27:16.840 What do you think about it?

00:27:18.260 I think it's great.

00:27:19.480 Why?

00:27:20.640 Um, I've never felt more secure in my life, and...

00:27:24.840 You feel like submitting to your boyfriend helps you feel that security?

00:27:27.760 Yeah, it also makes me feel very feminine.

00:27:29.600 I've never been so in touch with my femininity.

00:27:32.300 Um, I think I used to have to be...

00:27:34.740 I think when you're on your own, um, it kind of makes you, like, an alpha female sometimes.

00:27:39.460 Like, I don't need no man. 0.94

00:27:41.260 Um, but I think every woman needs a man. 1.00

00:27:45.400 Mmm.

00:27:46.420 Let's go.

00:27:47.120 Based.

00:27:47.540 Yeah.

00:27:47.680 So based.

00:27:48.680 Why do you feel like submission helps you feel more feminine?

00:27:51.480 Um, because I can...

00:27:53.480 You don't have to be the alpha female.

00:27:55.700 Yeah, I don't have to be the one that's...

00:27:58.680 I know that...

00:27:59.680 I know that if my finances crashed tomorrow, the house is under control, everything's stable,

00:28:07.460 he provides the stability, and I can fall into my feminine side, I...

00:28:12.620 I can do more things that I enjoy rather than stress myself out

00:28:16.660 and climb the corporate ladder, um, I can make dinner at night and provide the feminine touch 1.00

00:28:24.800 to the household and focus on being a great mother instead of climbing the corporate ladder. 0.99

00:28:31.020 What do you guys think about the concept of submission?

00:28:34.280 I submit to my boyfriend, definitely.

00:28:36.120 Okay.

00:28:36.960 But it's...

00:28:38.320 I believe in submission.

00:28:39.660 I like it.

00:28:40.080 Like, how, yes, you can, like, be more intact with your feminine side, but I just appreciate how...

00:28:45.020 Even if he doesn't care, my opinion's still asked.

00:28:48.180 You know what I mean?

00:28:48.840 Like, even if it's his ultimate decision, it's still a conversation is the thing that I like,

00:28:53.700 just so I'm aware of what's going on.

00:28:55.780 And, like, I believe with certain things, like finances, like, yeah, that might be more on their side,

00:28:59.700 but, like, if I'm staying at home with the kids, I might know a little bit better what might be better for them

00:29:05.620 when it comes to, like, school time or things like that.

00:29:07.640 So I would hope I have some type of say.

00:29:10.600 Completely agreed.

00:29:11.460 I feel like I'm very submissive to my boyfriend as well.

00:29:14.560 Hold on.

00:29:15.040 Just some feedback.

00:29:15.860 Both of you need to speak louder.

00:29:18.080 Can you try to project your voices a bit?

00:29:19.740 Yeah.

00:29:21.100 So, okay, you're very submissive to your boyfriend's.

00:29:24.080 What about you?

00:29:25.660 Or do you wear the pants in the relationship?

00:29:28.760 Or the blouse?

00:29:29.660 It's very fresh.

00:29:31.300 It's fresh?

00:29:32.140 It's a fresh relationship.

00:29:32.860 You guys have been seeing each other for, like, six months, right?

00:29:34.840 No, we've known each other for six months.

00:29:36.780 You're still figuring out your dynamic?

00:29:39.120 Yeah, I would say so.

00:29:42.820 Do you wear the pants?

00:29:44.700 No, I wouldn't say so.

00:29:46.800 The jeans?

00:29:46.980 The slacks? 1.00

00:29:47.740 I think it's very equal.

00:29:49.820 It's equal?

00:29:50.920 Yeah.

00:29:51.620 If I may interject, I think I have a strong personality.

00:29:54.400 I just know that off the get-go, but I also really enjoy being feminine and girly

00:29:57.780 and, like, being the girl in the relationship.

00:29:59.780 And I think a lot of women like myself run into this issue where if a guy is weak,

00:30:04.420 we could smell it on you from a mile away.

00:30:06.480 And if you're going to be a weak man, we will dominate you, not intentionally, 0.87

00:30:10.140 but in just, like, this man's not doing anything. 0.95

00:30:12.080 He's not leading me.

00:30:12.840 Like, I have to step up and wear the pants.

00:30:14.760 And that is the worst dynamic for relationships.

00:30:16.920 It just creates so many issues.

00:30:18.760 It creates a lot of resentment.

00:30:20.120 Yes.

00:30:20.900 And I think submission is fun for girls in the sense of, like,

00:30:24.220 I don't love making a bajillion decisions all the time.

00:30:26.400 I want to have somebody that I can trust to lead me with a decision that's going to be

00:30:29.700 the most beneficial for me, for him, for my relationship with God,

00:30:32.540 and my future children and everything of the sort.

00:30:34.760 And then I could just focus on, like, what new recipe do I want to try?

00:30:37.620 Or, like, what new hobby do I want to take on?

00:30:39.560 Things that are, I think girls care more about those things than guys at large.

00:30:43.240 Yeah, I totally agree.

00:30:44.140 Do you find it challenging to be submissive towards most guys?

00:30:47.940 It depends on the personality.

00:30:49.380 But, like, these beta males, like, I would never let you lead me.

00:30:52.220 Like, are you kidding?

00:30:52.860 You can barely take care of yourself.

00:30:54.260 But when it comes to an alpha male, like, you can smell it on them.

00:30:56.620 You're like, okay, yes, sir.

00:30:57.540 And, you know, it's pretty easy to submit to a man who knows how to be, like you were

00:31:02.340 saying, worthy of submission.

00:31:03.760 And a lot of these men call for women to submit to them and just listen to them without being

00:31:07.680 anywhere near worthy.

00:31:09.500 And that's a big disconnect, I think, of people not being so icky with the term submissive.

00:31:13.820 Like, if there's a great guy, you'd be happy to have him lead you.

00:31:17.320 No one wants a crappy guy leading them.

00:31:19.540 That's why, like, people will say when they find out I'm in a relationship, they're like, 0.93

00:31:21.920 oh, he must be such a beta.

00:31:23.140 He must be a sim, da-da-da-da. 0.89

00:31:24.580 And I'm like, if you use your brain at all and look at me and the woman I am, you really

00:31:28.120 think I could be with somebody like that?

00:31:29.580 No.

00:31:30.020 No, it's not going to work out.

00:31:31.020 Well, I think the thing.

00:31:31.460 I'm going to step all over them.

00:31:32.860 I think the thing with women who are lean more masculine, no offense. 1.00

00:31:39.420 That's the thing.

00:31:39.980 No offense.

00:31:40.400 You guys on this podcast would say that, but then to other people, like, what, because I

00:31:43.740 have tattoos, things like that.

00:31:44.920 No, just your demeanor is more masculine.

00:31:47.700 When do you know me outside of a podcast while I'm set up here to debate?

00:31:50.280 Do you want me to sit here quiet and not say anything?

00:31:52.180 It's the point of what I'm on, is to prove my opinion and to speak my voice.

00:31:55.680 Do you think this is how my conversations are with my boyfriend?

00:31:57.960 Why?

00:31:58.500 Absolutely not.

00:31:58.840 Yeah, I mean, and I've said as much in previous appearances that obviously you've been invited

00:32:03.520 onto a podcast where we are engaging in debate, so I suspect that how you or how someone

00:32:09.820 else who's invited on this podcast conducts themselves is going to differ than how they are one-on-one

00:32:16.620 in an intimate setting with a partner.

00:32:18.960 However, I mean, you can get some degree of a read on somebody even in this sort of environment,

00:32:27.440 and I mean, you probably, do you disagree that you're a bit more masculine?

00:32:34.620 Not masculine in appearance, but just your demeanor.

00:32:38.380 I know not.

00:32:39.060 But, I mean, I could see that, but outside of this room, no, I don't think anyone would.

00:32:46.320 No.

00:32:46.960 You don't think anybody would describe you as having masculine energy outside of this room?

00:32:50.100 My actual friends that I speak to, not just on a basis of this, I don't think so.

00:32:55.460 I'm honestly very, very submissive.

00:32:58.320 Honestly, I have too much empathy for so many people to really be more masculine or anything,

00:33:04.520 especially like teaching children.

00:33:07.660 Like, I knock off a lot of the feminine boxes, except for the fact that I can use my own voice. 0.95

00:33:15.260 But, like, me and my boyfriend are very differing opinions.

00:33:18.180 Like, you guys would probably agree on most things more than me and him would.

00:33:21.880 But we don't sit up here and argue all day and night about it.

00:33:24.380 He says his point, and I just say, okay.

00:33:26.360 Do your values align?

00:33:28.020 Overall, yes.

00:33:28.920 Okay.

00:33:29.440 Wait, do you get into arguments with your, have you ever had an argument with your boyfriend so far?

00:33:33.580 No, he made me mad once.

00:33:37.400 I think we've made each other mad once, but we've never gotten into an argument.

00:33:40.320 Because this is how I sometimes see this play out is a woman who leans a bit more masculine. 1.00

00:33:48.180 If things are good, then it's fine.

00:33:51.240 But, like, if there's ever a disagreement or a fight, it's going to be a little heated.

00:33:56.900 We disagree on a lot of things.

00:33:59.020 He's very, he's a lot.

00:34:00.440 I just said I just got back into Christianity.

00:34:01.980 Christianity, he's more conservative, Christian, you know, value-based than I am.

00:34:06.860 So we don't agree on a lot of things.

00:34:08.520 Like, a lot of things I see on this podcast, he'd be like, you're so wrong when you said that.

00:34:11.760 And I'd be like, hey, bro, you know.

00:34:14.220 But, like, we agree to disagree and we know how to respect each other's opinions.

00:34:17.140 And I'm not going to just sit there and force him to agree with me on something.

00:34:21.760 Do you consider yourself more liberal, right?

00:34:24.200 I would say I'm very in the middle.

00:34:26.560 Very in the middle?

00:34:27.200 I mean, maybe a little bit left more liberal-leaning, but, I mean, I'm pro-Second Amendment.

00:34:32.620 Like, I, I.

00:34:33.420 Let's go.

00:34:34.220 Yeah, like, I'm not saying, I think there needs to be more regulations on what's going on.

00:34:37.820 Uh-oh.

00:34:38.500 I think in some areas we do need.

00:34:41.760 I don't even want to get into this.

00:34:42.800 I have liberal, you know, I have liberal opinions, I have conservative opinions, because in my

00:34:48.780 opinion, based off of what I've read off the Bible, some things are more conservative and

00:34:52.700 some things technically would be a little bit more liberal-leaning.

00:34:55.280 So, that's what I'm trying to learn more off and base more of my opinions off of.

00:34:59.840 I feel like the word masculine is being used in place of the word, like, risque or aggressive,

00:35:04.120 perhaps.

00:35:04.940 I could definitely see that a little bit more.

00:35:06.900 Like, people have just sometimes more aggressive personalities.

00:35:09.780 That's not necessarily a bad or a good thing.

00:35:11.640 People being too weak can be a bad thing, too.

00:35:13.720 So, I feel like that is a better way to describe what they're trying to say than necessarily

00:35:17.400 masculine, because, well, I do believe, like, everyone can lean into, like, their more feminine

00:35:21.920 side. 0.94

00:35:22.340 Like, I hate when a guy is super effeminate.

00:35:24.340 I always say, like, he's too feminine for me. 1.00

00:35:26.300 But I truly don't believe that, like, a woman could ever embody the masculine side, no matter 1.00

00:35:31.260 how hard they tried.

00:35:32.160 And that's why I'm very much against those ideas that, like, men and women can change themselves,

00:35:36.060 because I think it's innate, and even the most, whatever, any girl that wants to be super,

00:35:41.880 try to be masculine or whatever, they're still a girl. 0.96

00:35:44.200 They're still gonna not equal to a man in that sense of personality.

00:35:47.840 Like, I might come off of super, like, my biggest problem, my last job as being a manager

00:35:51.160 is I wasn't assertive enough.

00:35:52.580 I wouldn't, I would let people walk all over me.

00:35:54.680 I wasn't putting my foot down with a lot of things.

00:35:57.000 That's what was the big issue.

00:35:58.180 And if I was, if I had a masculine side to me, I don't think I would have had that problem.

00:36:01.720 Okay, let's go back to the pick-me thing.

00:36:04.500 Do you have any thoughts on what a pick-me is?

00:36:08.660 I don't know.

00:36:09.520 It's just, like...

00:36:10.040 Into the mic, into the mic.

00:36:11.200 If I'm being honest, like, a pick-me is, I mean, nine times out of ten a girl. 0.96

00:36:17.160 Who's basically just...

00:36:18.220 Yeah, can a guy be a pick-me?

00:36:19.200 I mean, I've seen it.

00:36:20.320 I've seen it. 0.64

00:36:21.260 Maybe if he's, like, an ultra-sick.

00:36:22.540 For sure. 0.97

00:36:23.460 No, it's a male feminist. 1.00

00:36:24.740 It comes down to, like, the beta, or, like, the guys who don't have, like, that, you know...

00:36:31.520 The oomph.

00:36:32.400 The BDE to end, is the word?

00:36:34.340 The what?

00:36:34.880 The BDE.

00:36:35.620 Oh.

00:36:36.180 The manliness.

00:36:36.940 I always say a manly man.

00:36:38.240 Hold on, hold on.

00:36:39.080 It's like the guys who normally don't have, like, you know, that energy.

00:36:41.740 It's like the alpha energy is the other word.

00:36:44.340 Yeah.

00:36:44.660 You know, that are the pick-me's, and we've seen it.

00:36:47.420 I think a lot of nice guys are pick-me's, because they need a lot of validation.

00:36:52.600 They need a lot of female validation. 1.00

00:36:54.740 I feel like a male pick-me would make a video that's, like, when she's on her period,

00:36:58.340 and I just want to bring her chocolate and massage her feet.

00:37:01.420 Please pick me.

00:37:02.900 I've never touched a woman.

00:37:03.860 Please.

00:37:04.980 I feel like all the dudes that, like, aggressively support, like, abortion and, like, feminism,

00:37:09.420 I feel like they're all pick-me's.

00:37:10.480 Me too.

00:37:10.900 Especially on, like, social media and stuff. 0.97

00:37:12.620 All I see with that is, like, I want to have sex with a girl and not be responsible at all.

00:37:17.080 And I'm very pro-life, and I think a huge part is holding men and women accountable

00:37:20.740 for their decisions to bring a life into this world.

00:37:22.780 So we're going to just let the guy get off the hook so easily?

00:37:25.900 That's not fair to women, then. 1.00

00:37:27.100 What do you mean by let a guy get off the hook?

00:37:29.120 Like, these guys that are advocating for abortion, I think abortion only benefits men in the sense 0.61

00:37:33.060 of that a man can have, if abortion's totally legal in a state, I don't think a man is going 0.93

00:37:37.480 to take as many precautions to protect himself from creating a life.

00:37:40.580 I think it incentivizes people to use abortion as a form of birth control rather than take the

00:37:44.920 necessary steps beforehand.

00:37:46.220 And I just don't see how men, how anything, why would a man support abortion?

00:37:50.760 The only two kinds of guys that I've ever seen support abortion are the ultra simps that 0.96

00:37:56.360 are like, yeah, I support feminism, like Biden, all that kind of stuff.

00:37:59.920 The ultra simps and the dudes that are running through chicks, and they want that, like, escape 1.00

00:38:04.780 hatch.

00:38:05.500 It's the only kind of guys.

00:38:06.500 But I just, when you speak like that, it makes it seem like, obviously, yes, abortion

00:38:12.360 is, I guess, a form of birth control in the end, but it's not.

00:38:15.600 It's not like, oh, either I can get this IUD or just keep getting abortions.

00:38:20.120 Like, obviously, you've probably never had to have an abortion, right, since you're pro-life.

00:38:22.980 An abortion is not just a simple, let me just walk in and, oh, baby gone. 0.90

00:38:26.760 It's a very...

00:38:27.760 Brutal procedure.

00:38:28.780 Yes.

00:38:29.260 It's not...

00:38:29.820 I definitely agree with that.

00:38:30.600 But I'm not saying there's not women who have had multiple or things like that, and there

00:38:33.060 is definitely women out there using this birth control. 1.00

00:38:34.800 But that is a small minority of the people.

00:38:38.200 There's...

00:38:38.720 Don't just make it seem like, yeah, it's like, oh, yeah, I can just get an abortion if I 0.92

00:38:44.420 don't want to have a kid.

00:38:45.060 Like, maybe there's a few, you know, small percent of women out there like that, but most of the 1.00

00:38:49.520 time, a lot of women I know who've had abortions were, honestly, a lot of them kind of sometimes 1.00

00:38:54.040 were being safe. 1.00

00:38:55.120 Some of them were being idiots. 1.00

00:38:56.500 They're like, oh, pull out method, blah, blah, blah, bullshit. 1.00

00:38:57.820 How many people do you know that have... 0.99

00:38:59.600 I don't know a single person.

00:39:01.140 I don't either.

00:39:01.640 Yeah, I know quite a few.

00:39:03.200 Yeah.

00:39:03.600 Do you consider plan B an abortion?

00:39:06.220 No.

00:39:07.160 No, that's not.

00:39:07.740 You don't consider plan B to be an abortion?

00:39:09.280 It's...

00:39:09.560 That's no proof or not if you had...

00:39:11.460 I don't think that's an abortion.

00:39:11.860 It's too early on.

00:39:12.740 You don't think that's an abortion, Brian?

00:39:13.900 No, because I don't think there was a conception.

00:39:16.640 I think it's usually when the sperm touches the egg.

00:39:20.360 It's the next...

00:39:20.940 It's the very...

00:39:21.420 You have to take it within 72 hours.

00:39:23.520 The sperm has already reached the egg.

00:39:25.940 For plan B?

00:39:26.720 That's conception.

00:39:27.140 I believe so.

00:39:27.960 Because there would be nothing to kill if it didn't fertilize it. 0.86

00:39:31.360 No, but basically...

00:39:31.600 It's blocking.

00:39:32.180 It's not killing.

00:39:32.820 It's blocking it from happening.

00:39:33.560 In order for conception to occur, the sperm has to get... 0.97

00:39:37.140 Hold on, guys.

00:39:37.960 In order for there to be a conception, the sperm must swim and make contact with the egg. 0.90

00:39:43.420 What happened with...

00:39:44.320 If you take plan B, the sperm has not yet hit the egg.

00:39:51.280 It's not an abortion pill.

00:39:52.580 It's not an abortion pill.

00:39:53.600 I don't think it takes...

00:39:54.340 It doesn't take 72.

00:39:55.680 You can take it for up to 72, but I don't know.

00:39:57.460 You can take it for up to 72, but if you took it 72 hours later, there's a likely chance

00:40:02.320 that the sperm has already reached the egg within 72 hours, I believe.

00:40:05.200 Well, that's why I take it like the day.

00:40:06.180 No, I saw my Kardashians.

00:40:08.180 I think Kendall Jenner taught me this on the Kardashians, that sperm can live in your body

00:40:12.280 for like three days before it impregnates.

00:40:14.160 It's you, so that makes sense that...

00:40:16.280 I'm not a biologist.

00:40:18.660 It's five days, and the 72 hours is actually just the 96% effectiveness.

00:40:24.320 So that's why they want you to take it within 72 hours, but you can take it within seven

00:40:27.700 days, but the efficacy goes down significantly because conception has occurred at that point.

00:40:34.920 So a lot of women, when they take plan B, they like shed their... 1.00

00:40:39.200 You know, it forcefully sheds your uterine lining so that you're aborting whatever conception 1.00

00:40:45.200 occurred, and a lot of women report the fact that they have like clumpy periods, and they 0.99

00:40:50.860 have like something bigger come out of them.

00:40:54.200 No, dude.

00:40:54.320 So there's a possibility that the sperm did reach the egg.

00:40:56.720 I'm not just making this up.

00:40:57.840 I know, I know in your career and stuff, but I know people who literally used to pop...

00:41:01.600 Sadly, I don't agree with it.

00:41:02.860 They used to pop plan B's like candy.

00:41:04.840 I've never had a single friend say they bled after...

00:41:06.860 I've taken plan B's.

00:41:07.980 I've never bled after three times a year.

00:41:10.760 You've never had a single friend say that they bled after plan B?

00:41:12.920 Never.

00:41:13.280 That's never happened.

00:41:13.820 That's the process of which the pregnancy... 1.00

00:41:15.560 It's preventing it from happening.

00:41:17.720 I've taken probably three plan B's in my life.

00:41:19.760 I've never bled once from it, and I never had a worse period after.

00:41:22.820 I was going to say, everyone, I haven't heard the bleeding because I don't know that many

00:41:25.940 people that take plan B, but in college, I know that people have horrific periods following

00:41:31.500 plan B, and you can only take it like three times a year or something like that.

00:41:35.020 Take what?

00:41:35.420 Plan B.

00:41:35.940 You can't just pop that like it's candy for...

00:41:38.060 Yeah.

00:41:38.380 Yeah, and then it can affect...

00:41:39.980 Yeah, and it can affect...

00:41:41.120 I'm sure it can affect fertility or something of the sort.

00:41:43.460 It does.

00:41:43.480 And you're not supposed to take it.

00:41:44.280 You're honestly not supposed to take it more than like three times in your life.

00:41:46.500 Exactly.

00:41:47.000 I think that's what it was.

00:41:47.640 But people played with fire with it.

00:41:49.220 And also, every time people try to get pregnant for a long time, it's not just, oh, you get...

00:41:53.980 Sorry for my real language.

00:41:54.720 You get nutted in once and you're pregnant. 0.89

00:41:56.140 A lot of the time, the plan B isn't even preventing anything from happening.

00:41:59.200 That's a huge thing, man.

00:42:00.840 A lot of the time, you weren't even going to get pregnant.

00:42:02.040 It's just a cautionary act.

00:42:03.280 Right.

00:42:03.680 And that's because of the cycle, the menstrual cycle, right?

00:42:06.360 You can only get pregnant when you're ovulating. 1.00

00:42:07.700 Like two days out of the month.

00:42:08.680 Yeah.

00:42:09.140 Right.

00:42:09.500 And so that's...

00:42:10.000 Six.

00:42:10.240 Six.

00:42:10.460 Five days.

00:42:10.900 Six.

00:42:11.240 Yeah.

00:42:11.460 I'm not making this up.

00:42:12.500 The stories that I've heard about are when women take it and during ovulation, and there was conception,

00:42:17.480 like there was actual fertilization occurred, and they took it, and then it either caused

00:42:23.080 them to have an irregular period or it caused them to bleed out something that was a lot

00:42:27.720 like...

00:42:28.480 Something that was different.

00:42:29.880 You could have blood clots.

00:42:30.440 I feel uncomfortable talking about this because I've never had a period, but just from what

00:42:34.100 I...

00:42:34.280 As far as the plan B thing understood, I would have to look into it further.

00:42:38.340 It's plausible that it could be an abortion if conception occurred.

00:42:43.760 However, for example, you can have sex, and then five minutes after you have sex, take

00:42:49.860 a plan B pill.

00:42:51.540 Conception has not occurred five minutes after you've had sex with somebody.

00:42:56.960 So that would not be an abortion, but it's plausible it could be an abortion.

00:43:02.360 If you took plan B five minutes after you had sex with somebody, is there a chance that

00:43:06.580 the plan B won't work?

00:43:08.080 Yeah.

00:43:08.620 Yeah.

00:43:09.180 100%.

00:43:09.760 It's pretty effective, is my understanding.

00:43:12.500 For the most part, it's...

00:43:12.920 Not that I would have any knowledge of...

00:43:14.920 That's why it's plan B, and you can only take it within a certain date, because it's

00:43:18.160 not going to force an abortion.

00:43:19.220 If you take it after that time frame, you're not going to just take it, and now you're going

00:43:22.500 to have an abortion or have a miscarriage.

00:43:24.140 So one of my friends recently told me a story that his buddy got his girlfriend pregnant,

00:43:30.320 and several weeks after the fact, he mixed a bunch of plan B into her pancakes, and she...

00:43:35.840 That's a yikes.

00:43:36.620 Yeah.

00:43:37.180 And basically killed her baby.

00:43:39.320 Okay, I said taking a plan B versus mixing a bunch of plan B's together.

00:43:42.720 I'm sure you could feed a woman a lot of things that would give her a miscarriage. 1.00

00:43:45.900 Obviously, they're different things, but I'm saying it can still be effective.

00:43:48.420 I know, but there's a lot of things that you could even...

00:43:50.480 Yeah, he needs to go to jail.

00:43:51.440 I'm calling the FBI.

00:43:52.680 Yeah.

00:43:53.560 I have a hate crime to report.

00:43:54.900 So messed up.

00:43:55.980 You could drink a bunch of vitamin C and force yourself on abortion, but it's not because

00:43:59.740 it's the plan B that's going to give you it.

00:44:01.540 Wait, you can get an abortion from a bunch of vitamin C? 1.00

00:44:03.560 There's many ways to...

00:44:04.980 Pineapples, stuff.

00:44:05.820 Yeah, there's many ways to stop it.

00:44:07.280 I think I learned that from an American horror story.

00:44:09.080 I don't know.

00:44:09.460 It's icky.

00:44:10.180 Who was the first person to figure out that you could take a bunch of vitamin C to get

00:44:13.120 Who was the first person to...

00:44:13.780 Honestly, it was probably on accident, which is very, very sad.

00:44:16.340 Who's like, let me pull these udders. 0.81

00:44:17.660 Let me drink that.

00:44:18.840 No, it was probably because somebody...

00:44:21.080 Some dude with a fetish, for sure.

00:44:23.880 I'm listening.

00:44:24.380 I was saying probably somebody was obsessed with orange juice or something and accidentally

00:44:29.000 had a miscarriage when they didn't want to.

00:44:30.980 That's probably how we found that out.

00:44:32.380 I did not.

00:44:33.920 Okay.

00:44:34.160 We're going to move on from that topic.

00:44:38.060 So messed up.

00:44:38.900 So evil.

00:44:39.260 Yeah.

00:44:39.380 What about ectopic pregnancy?

00:44:40.480 What do you feel about that?

00:44:41.400 Should we hit some super chats?

00:44:42.520 We're going to move on.

00:44:43.640 We're moving on from that.

00:44:45.200 Start that, Eric.

00:44:46.080 Okay.

00:44:46.520 So, Alexandra, thanks for the membership.

00:44:49.000 Appreciate it.

00:44:49.880 All right.

00:44:50.140 Prometheus Venom.

00:44:50.860 Thanks for the 100.

00:44:51.420 By the way, guys, get your super chats in, 100 and up for the super chats, 200 and up

00:44:55.600 triggers TTS.

00:44:57.100 Prometheus Venom.

00:44:58.240 Thanks for the 100, man.

00:45:00.540 Exclusivity.

00:45:01.380 You have to be very careful as it can go horribly wrong.

00:45:05.100 Can you expand on that, Prometheus Venom?

00:45:06.920 Yeah, Prometheus Venom.

00:45:07.720 Can you...

00:45:09.420 Oh, he has another one here.

00:45:10.940 My girlfriend has bleed before by taking Ella and her period was awful and messes with

00:45:15.520 her hormones.

00:45:16.400 She told me she had clumpy blood in her area.

00:45:18.320 Be careful with it.

00:45:19.320 Hello?

00:45:19.440 Probably meant plan B.

00:45:20.660 Yeah.

00:45:20.780 Ella is a version of plan B.

00:45:22.660 It's supposed to be more effective.

00:45:23.740 They sell it out of the use.

00:45:26.380 What is plan B?

00:45:27.560 Is it like a super dose of hormones?

00:45:29.200 It's just like basically a higher dose of birth control.

00:45:32.660 Hormonal birth control.

00:45:33.640 I feel like it's a cortisone shot versus like an Advil.

00:45:36.160 It's a lot.

00:45:37.080 It's progesterone.

00:45:39.200 Progesterone stops you from getting pregnant because it keeps your hormone levels so high

00:45:43.300 that you don't ovulate and you don't drop an egg.

00:45:45.680 Based.

00:45:46.480 Yeah.

00:45:46.760 So Debra knows what she's talking about.

00:45:49.100 College.

00:45:49.560 All right.

00:45:49.780 We learned some things there.

00:45:51.580 All right.

00:45:52.040 Moving on.

00:45:52.880 Did you guys have a sense of what a pick me is?

00:45:55.120 Do you want to weigh in?

00:45:56.120 Someone who seeks attention.

00:45:57.400 I don't even think it's like if you could say a girl is a pick me, I think a girl can

00:46:02.440 be a pick me towards men and women, honestly.

00:46:05.640 Yeah, I agree.

00:46:06.460 What's a pick?

00:46:06.980 What's a girl who's a pick me towards women? 1.00

00:46:08.680 What does that look like?

00:46:09.780 Just trying to be better than a woman, I feel. 1.00

00:46:12.480 Trying to be better than women? 1.00

00:46:13.560 Better than other women. 1.00

00:46:14.380 Yeah.

00:46:15.200 All right.

00:46:15.540 We have one more super chat here.

00:46:16.740 Justin Reyes.

00:46:17.520 Thank you for the 100, man.

00:46:18.140 Appreciate it.

00:46:18.640 Brian, I appreciate your content.

00:46:20.220 A little more than FNF.

00:46:21.340 Chase, calm down the religion. 0.99

00:46:23.440 Kiko, I may disagree with you 99% of the time, but respect.

00:46:26.200 You stand up for yourself.

00:46:27.060 Ladies, what turns you off on for men physically? 1.00

00:46:30.040 Before we read that, did you want to weigh in on what a pick me is?

00:46:33.880 I would just say it's a girl who seeks a lot of attention from men and goes out of their 1.00

00:46:40.180 way to do that.

00:46:41.620 Okay.

00:46:41.980 But I agree with Madison.

00:46:43.280 I think it can be with a woman in another group of large women where they're just trying 1.00

00:46:50.800 to be the center of attention for a male to notice.

00:46:56.720 And they make it their personality.

00:46:58.820 I'm going to clarify this for all the boys out there.

00:47:01.420 All right.

00:47:02.020 For the young guns. 0.82

00:47:02.840 A woman who is a pick me is a woman who will intentionally espouse values that she thinks 1.00

00:47:08.340 a guy she wants is going to like, right?

00:47:10.740 So you've got this phenomenon with all the chicks that claim to be trad, but they're still 1.00

00:47:15.460 getting their backs blown out by chads when they go to parties, right?

00:47:18.340 Like these are women who claim to embody certain values just so that they can get your attention, 1.00

00:47:23.240 but they don't actually embody those values.

00:47:25.200 Yes.

00:47:26.480 Yes.

00:47:26.780 Watch out for those chicks. 1.00

00:47:27.980 Watch out for those chicks, bros. 1.00

00:47:28.940 That's why I call Taya pick me because like what from them speaking so far, I could tell

00:47:32.620 like this is just their true beliefs.

00:47:34.000 This is what they believe and what they stand for.

00:47:35.760 And that's fine.

00:47:36.400 That's who you are.

00:47:37.120 But with her, it was, you could just see right through her act, especially just when you

00:47:41.760 call me masculine.

00:47:42.540 Like that's a true masculine woman right there. 0.90

00:47:44.440 And everything that she was saying was about how you need to be submissive and this, that,

00:47:48.180 and a third.

00:47:48.420 And I'm like, you're literally a contradiction of your whole thing.

00:47:51.800 So I don't know if it's for views or what she's trying to do, but she's-

00:47:54.180 Tay is or her?

00:47:54.860 No, no, Tay.

00:47:55.760 No, we're boys.

00:47:56.580 We're girls.

00:47:57.220 Yeah.

00:47:57.740 We're boys.

00:47:59.280 Not only on the weekends.

00:48:00.780 You could just see right through.

00:48:02.120 It's like a facade that she thinks that's what's going to get her like an Andrew Tate or something.

00:48:05.620 She has to act that way. 0.99

00:48:06.900 She has to shit on herself and her own appearance in order to, you know, make men like her. 1.00

00:48:12.160 To your credit, you're not wrong. 0.99

00:48:14.160 Tay, I don't know if she's a pick me, but she's definitely pretty masculine. 1.00

00:48:18.880 She's very masculine and she tries to act like she doesn't care about certain things 0.93

00:48:21.580 when she does.

00:48:22.260 Like, she's like, oh, I don't care about this.

00:48:23.260 Not when you're sitting here doing your sorority pose and all that.

00:48:25.900 Like, sorry.

00:48:26.800 Like, yeah, it's like, be for real.

00:48:29.660 Yeah.

00:48:29.940 Like, you're-

00:48:30.400 But she's the homie. 1.00

00:48:30.960 She's the homie. 1.00

00:48:31.840 No, I really don't like her.

00:48:32.900 Not for you.

00:48:33.440 For me.

00:48:33.820 Yeah, that's fine.

00:48:34.740 I think she's honestly a terrible person.

00:48:36.860 But Tay, you know, you're a strong woman.

00:48:39.840 Let's say that.

00:48:40.280 She was sitting up here saying-

00:48:40.580 You're a strong woman.

00:48:41.160 Obviously, tattoos are so ugly and this and that when she has face tattoos. 1.00

00:48:44.780 What?

00:48:45.320 Like, be so for real, girl. 0.98

00:48:46.780 Like-

00:48:47.060 What, she got a teardrop? 0.58

00:48:48.220 Like, she has some eyebrows.

00:48:49.900 You're next.

00:48:50.420 Eyebrow, neck.

00:48:51.380 Watch out.

00:48:52.100 You're next. 0.99

00:48:52.500 And then talking shit about my- 1.00

00:48:53.360 Was that the Latino chick? 1.00

00:48:55.160 She was like Latin skin. 0.98

00:48:56.540 I don't know.

00:48:56.960 Sharpie eyebrows.

00:48:57.820 But saying, I was wearing two.

00:48:58.660 She was like, I don't believe in makeup.

00:48:59.880 But then she had like hella makeup on.

00:49:01.860 Yeah.

00:49:02.160 It was very weird.

00:49:03.180 That's a good example of-

00:49:04.960 Oh, I have a hard time with-

00:49:06.060 Let's be nice to Tay.

00:49:06.720 We should be nice to Tay, guys.

00:49:07.900 Tay, if you're watching this, I really don't like you. 0.98

00:49:09.120 Roast her for five minutes. 0.99

00:49:10.140 We should be nice to Tay.

00:49:11.140 Well, I used to get all the pick me comments back in the day.

00:49:13.920 And I think that I was never fond of it just because like I'd post conservative content,

00:49:17.580 things that I truly believe in.

00:49:18.980 And at that point, it's kind of like, I really don't think this word is so useful in this

00:49:23.100 day, but like misogynistic in a way where they're like, you don't actually believe

00:49:26.040 what you believe.

00:49:26.620 You only believe it because a man told you to believe it.

00:49:28.400 I'm like, no, I actually believe this.

00:49:30.420 Yeah.

00:49:30.680 And they think I'm not validated.

00:49:32.100 So I hated that side of it.

00:49:33.340 But that one example that you just gave was really accurate.

00:49:36.200 Like girls are like, I hate makeup. 1.00

00:49:38.560 I don't need makeup to look pretty.

00:49:39.920 And when your friend is like glammed out next to you, they're like, wow, I wish I had as

00:49:43.460 much care for my looks as you do in front of other guys.

00:49:46.420 Like just saying things to try and be like a guy's guy when they're just a nobody's person.

00:49:50.280 That's exactly what she was trying to do the whole time. 0.82

00:49:51.800 Like the guy's like, I drink beer, eat wings and watch sports.

00:49:55.900 Like that's the whole facade that she was trying to put on.

00:49:58.320 And I'm like, I can name five NHL players. 1.00

00:50:01.340 And then when I went to her Instagram, her whole entire Instagram was just her shit. 1.00

00:50:04.760 All right. 1.00

00:50:05.160 All right.

00:50:05.520 All right.

00:50:05.700 Okay.

00:50:05.960 So we should, we should, we should, we have Prometheus.

00:50:07.480 Come on.

00:50:07.980 Screw pick me girls. 0.99

00:50:08.940 All right.

00:50:09.140 That's why we're here.

00:50:09.720 And guys.

00:50:10.440 Prometheus Venom says, it can cause some miscommunication, Chase.

00:50:13.620 I've experienced it.

00:50:14.500 Well, it's good to give a heads up for the other boys about the problems that can come with

00:50:19.220 quote unquote exclusivity.

00:50:20.740 Always make sure that you're vetting a woman effectively.

00:50:23.040 And then we read this one.

00:50:24.620 Also, Justin Reyes, bro, I will not calm down on the religion. 0.74

00:50:27.320 Sorry, dog.

00:50:27.940 Thanks for watching though.

00:50:28.660 And for your friends.

00:50:31.340 Yeah.

00:50:32.100 Let's see.

00:50:32.940 He said, ladies, what turns you off on from men physically? 0.99

00:50:36.220 And just really quick.

00:50:38.080 Fresh and fit are the homies. 1.00

00:50:39.340 So much love to FNF.

00:50:41.320 Okay.

00:50:42.300 So yeah, ladies, what turns you off on from men? 1.00

00:50:45.600 We'll go around the table on this real quick.

00:50:46.980 Go ahead.

00:50:48.740 Biggest turn off, biggest turn on physically.

00:50:52.320 Biggest turn off.

00:50:54.600 Skinny.

00:50:56.640 Biggest turn on. 0.90

00:50:57.720 Sorry, Chase's legs.

00:50:59.160 Big.

00:51:01.340 Likes big dudes.

00:51:02.900 All right.

00:51:03.360 I mean, if I look at you, you look like you can't protect me, then I'm good.

00:51:07.140 It's reasonable.

00:51:07.900 Yeah.

00:51:08.180 What about you?

00:51:09.260 I would have to say like a really bad turn off is a guy who's rude.

00:51:15.120 Physically though.

00:51:16.080 Physically?

00:51:16.780 Yeah.

00:51:17.040 I mean, I know I don't have one, but I love a good jawline.

00:51:22.120 Good jawline?

00:51:23.160 Yeah.

00:51:23.360 Does Chase have a good jawline?

00:51:25.960 I mean, it's there.

00:51:27.060 It's there.

00:51:27.760 It's cute.

00:51:28.340 What about me?

00:51:28.720 What about me?

00:51:29.020 It's just, it's just a good jawline.

00:51:31.260 It's so good.

00:51:32.300 It's there.

00:51:33.040 We can see it.

00:51:34.040 Okay.

00:51:35.000 Yeah, I'm flexing mine.

00:51:36.900 And a turn off for a guy who's home.

00:51:38.740 Such a big me.

00:51:39.920 You said like appearance wise?

00:51:41.920 Yeah.

00:51:42.360 Physical.

00:51:43.700 Would like smell be like one of them?

00:51:45.600 Bad smell.

00:51:46.840 Yeah.

00:51:47.240 Like horrible hygiene.

00:51:48.500 Have you encountered a guy in your escapades that just.

00:51:52.020 I mean, like I've been out and like I was thinking a guy is cute. 1.00

00:51:55.720 And then like the second they walk by me and you smell like ass. 1.00

00:51:58.280 Like get out of my face. 1.00

00:52:00.780 Okay.

00:52:01.200 So smell.

00:52:01.960 Smell.

00:52:02.320 Us all.

00:52:02.900 Allie.

00:52:03.440 What about you?

00:52:03.880 Yeah, it's not our perfume.

00:52:05.380 I don't know if I can think of like a physical turn off.

00:52:09.280 I would say also smell.

00:52:11.060 If that's.

00:52:11.480 I don't know if that's.

00:52:12.560 Would you get a guy who's five foot?

00:52:14.800 Yeah, that's a good one.

00:52:16.120 Would you get shorter than you?

00:52:17.920 I would say as long as they're like one inch taller than me.

00:52:21.480 Height doesn't really.

00:52:22.440 How tall are you?

00:52:23.100 Can you move that cup out?

00:52:24.140 I'm like five.

00:52:24.500 That cup right there.

00:52:25.460 Just move it somewhere.

00:52:27.180 Move it.

00:52:27.860 Move it.

00:52:28.440 Why?

00:52:28.920 Don't worry about it. 0.95

00:52:30.440 What the hell? 0.77

00:52:30.980 Don't worry about it. 0.98

00:52:32.800 So OCD.

00:52:35.340 A tad, huh?

00:52:36.180 Oh, so go ahead.

00:52:41.060 I turn on.

00:52:42.080 I turn on.

00:52:42.880 Wait, how tall are you?

00:52:44.280 I'm five, five, five, six.

00:52:46.640 So as long as he's five, seven.

00:52:48.260 Yeah.

00:52:48.960 Okay.

00:52:49.320 I don't mind.

00:52:49.900 I would die.

00:52:51.000 How tall are you?

00:52:51.800 I'm five, nine.

00:52:53.780 Are you wearing heels right now?

00:52:54.920 I'm wearing two inch heels right now.

00:52:56.000 I'm six feet and three inch heels.

00:52:57.460 So like, it's not selfish for me to be like, come on, six feet or greater.

00:53:01.020 And whenever my friends try setting me up with people, it's like, does his number start

00:53:04.080 with a five?

00:53:04.920 And they're like, yeah, I'm like, don't do it.

00:53:08.060 I want to wear heels.

00:53:09.000 What if he's six foot?

00:53:10.340 That could work.

00:53:11.120 That works?

00:53:11.360 Or like 5'11 with a tall personality.

00:53:13.940 You're like noted.

00:53:14.920 Okay.

00:53:15.240 Sitting up straight there.

00:53:18.220 What about turn on?

00:53:20.460 I would say I'm typically attracted to men with like darker hair.

00:53:25.540 It's like a specific physical turn on for me.

00:53:28.160 Okay.

00:53:28.500 What about you?

00:53:29.920 Turn on, I would say a nice smile.

00:53:32.720 I like eyes.

00:53:33.360 I like eye contact.

00:53:34.920 Um, turn off if I don't would, I don't know about physically, but if you're like overly

00:53:41.680 confident, like obnoxious.

00:53:44.020 I don't know if that's physical.

00:53:45.320 That's not really physical.

00:53:46.220 Yeah.

00:53:46.620 Yeah.

00:53:46.860 I was saying like, that's not physical, but that'd be a turn off for me.

00:53:50.740 Turn on or off?

00:53:51.940 Off.

00:53:52.300 What if they have like a...

00:53:53.380 Like a Chad, Brian.

00:53:54.980 A what?

00:53:55.480 Like a Chad would be a turn off.

00:53:57.160 A Chad would be a turn off.

00:53:58.340 For me.

00:53:58.500 Your boyfriend's a Chad.

00:53:59.560 What are you talking about?

00:53:59.860 My boyfriend's not a Chad.

00:54:00.940 You get calling him a Chad.

00:54:02.240 Your boyfriend's a legend.

00:54:03.220 What are you talking about?

00:54:03.780 He is a legend.

00:54:05.000 Definitely not a Chad.

00:54:05.840 Wait, so what?

00:54:08.280 Okay.

00:54:08.500 But for physically, for example, what about a guy who has a face tattoo?

00:54:13.000 Would that be a turn off?

00:54:14.220 A turn off would be like messy hair.

00:54:16.000 Messy hair?

00:54:17.020 Yeah.

00:54:17.760 Okay.

00:54:18.540 Cool.

00:54:18.840 Like not good hair. 0.77

00:54:19.640 What about like a third nipple? 0.97

00:54:21.820 I wouldn't, honestly, if it didn't bother me. 0.96

00:54:24.580 You might be down for the third nipple? 1.00

00:54:25.060 I mean, I could be down for a third nipple. 0.99

00:54:26.700 You could be down for it? 0.98

00:54:27.080 Okay.

00:54:27.280 What about you, Billy?

00:54:28.360 Turn off would be long fingernails. 0.99

00:54:31.020 Off.

00:54:31.940 Oh, fingernails.

00:54:32.700 Okay.

00:54:32.860 We're chilling.

00:54:33.420 Yeah.

00:54:33.900 Turn on.

00:54:34.800 Not your alien fingers. 0.57

00:54:37.080 A turn on would be a...

00:54:39.820 Ew.

00:54:40.400 Ew. 0.99

00:54:41.720 Did you know that's a sex doll? 0.98

00:54:43.740 I said, oh, it's a Barbie doll. 0.99

00:54:46.320 And everyone's like, that's a sex doll. 0.95

00:54:47.620 I was like, I'm too naive to be here. 0.99

00:54:51.940 Turn on would be a strong back.

00:54:54.580 Strong back.

00:54:55.420 Okay.

00:54:56.700 Like he's deadlifting like 525 or...

00:55:00.600 I don't...

00:55:01.220 Are we talking like back width?

00:55:03.520 Like a strong spine?

00:55:05.220 Or like he's in the gym deadlifting like 600 pounds?

00:55:07.560 I don't care about the pounds.

00:55:09.480 Just no damage.

00:55:10.860 Just like strong...

00:55:12.600 Like you want like a feet taper.

00:55:14.600 Yeah, but like broad shoulders.

00:55:18.440 You want like the definition in the back.

00:55:20.600 There's a lot of back muscles.

00:55:21.780 You want like definition?

00:55:24.000 All right, let's move it on.

00:55:25.260 Go ahead.

00:55:26.440 Okay.

00:55:27.100 Why did you say that?

00:55:28.180 Biggest turn on would probably be big, but in the sense of like bulky types of guys.

00:55:33.380 Like I think the dad bod is pretty favorable too.

00:55:35.780 Like I don't need a guy who's pure raw muscle, but someone who makes me feel like small.

00:55:40.040 Because I'm 5'9".

00:55:40.660 So like someone who makes me fall small and little and safe.

00:55:43.040 I love that.

00:55:44.020 Biggest turn off, somebody who doesn't work out.

00:55:46.640 And it doesn't even have to be that they're obese, but just somebody who clearly doesn't

00:55:50.240 go to the gym or have health, like live a healthy lifestyle.

00:55:53.060 I work out like five days a week.

00:55:54.660 It's very important to me to live an active lifestyle.

00:55:56.820 And being with somebody who just doesn't care for that, it's so gross to me in every sense.

00:56:01.520 I agree.

00:56:02.720 You want us to answer, Brian?

00:56:05.220 Was it?

00:56:05.900 I mean.

00:56:06.500 Yeah.

00:56:06.780 What gets you guys going for the other side?

00:56:09.140 I'd like to answer, Brian.

00:56:11.140 I mean.

00:56:12.820 Brian doesn't want to hear from you, Sam.

00:56:14.180 Sorry.

00:56:14.620 No, I'm going to answer anyway.

00:56:15.880 Biggest turn on is when she's fit.

00:56:19.020 Like when she's physically fit.

00:56:20.440 Let's go.

00:56:20.800 And she has a strong core.

00:56:22.660 Yes.

00:56:23.280 And can do like, if you're a gymnast, my DMs are open.

00:56:28.100 Biggest turn off is tattoos.

00:56:30.060 And specifically, like masculine tattoos.

00:56:34.440 Because I feel like a lot of tattoos are masculine on women.

00:56:38.100 And I kind of feel like this is going to be a hated opinion, but that it's kind of a way

00:56:43.220 to embrace their masculinity by getting like those masculine tattoos.

00:56:47.640 Who here has tattoos?

00:56:49.620 Do you hate my tattoos?

00:56:51.860 Like, do you think these are pretty masculine?

00:56:53.920 I don't hate them.

00:56:54.460 Would you call these masculine?

00:56:55.780 No, no.

00:56:56.800 I wouldn't consider those masculine. 0.90

00:56:58.640 And I don't hate them.

00:57:00.360 What do you consider like a masculine tattoo?

00:57:02.860 Wait, so you're the of the five here who has tattoos?

00:57:05.600 Do you have tattoos?

00:57:06.120 I don't have tattoos.

00:57:06.920 It's against Judaism. 0.99

00:57:07.960 I have one that's the size of a quarter on my ankle.

00:57:10.200 Hey, Kiko.

00:57:10.940 Get a.

00:57:12.240 No.

00:57:12.660 Yeah.

00:57:12.900 No offense to Kiko, but it's more like when they have like a sleeve or something like

00:57:16.520 that of the sort.

00:57:17.680 Or if there's like tons of tattoos.

00:57:19.660 Really?

00:57:19.780 Just covered in tattoos.

00:57:20.780 Sam was just talking about your tattoos.

00:57:22.920 And I think that the tattoos, I think that the tattoos like more on that are kind of

00:57:26.740 a cry for attention.

00:57:28.240 Not, I'm not like attacking you, Kiko. 0.65

00:57:30.640 He said that he thinks tattoos are a turn off physically.

00:57:34.780 Okay.

00:57:35.220 That's fine.

00:57:36.220 Okay.

00:57:36.540 Yeah.

00:57:36.660 I wouldn't expect it.

00:57:37.360 Not really.

00:57:38.300 Have I got any tattoos?

00:57:39.160 That's it.

00:57:39.740 It'd be like a 1776 or like made in America.

00:57:42.900 Based.

00:57:43.260 That's based.

00:57:44.260 Patriotic.

00:57:45.400 I'll add on to the tattoo turn off. 0.96

00:57:47.880 If a chick has like a big snake tattoo, it's a no from me, dog. 1.00

00:57:50.980 Huge, no, it's a huge cry for attention.

00:57:53.760 It's like I, my dad's not in the photo.

00:57:55.900 I don't have any snakes.

00:57:56.800 Snakes are a sign of the devil.

00:57:57.480 Is that a thing, snakes?

00:57:59.000 Yeah, a lot of chicks have snake tattoos. 1.00

00:58:01.020 Oh.

00:58:01.620 I don't have a single snake, so.

00:58:03.900 You're good for now.

00:58:04.560 You looked at me.

00:58:06.280 I think you have a snake tattoo, Kiko?

00:58:07.740 I don't.

00:58:08.260 Okay.

00:58:08.800 Then your tattoos are fine.

00:58:10.100 Oh, thank you.

00:58:10.900 I think there's degrees to the tattoo thing.

00:58:13.300 Like, I agree with you, Sam.

00:58:15.380 I'd prefer a girl who had no tattoos. 1.00

00:58:18.140 But, like, if it's like a heart somewhere, like, that's not a huge thing.

00:58:22.100 But if it's like full sleeve, you know?

00:58:24.120 Agreed.

00:58:24.400 I think it's degrees to it.

00:58:25.760 Yeah.

00:58:26.060 Agreed.

00:58:26.260 Like, the more, the more covered up she is, then it's a little bit more of a thing. 0.74

00:58:33.020 Whereas if it's like one or two here and there, it's not, it's not as huge of a deal, you know?

00:58:38.280 Yeah.

00:58:38.460 I like like the new, well, I really, I really am not a big fan of tattoos.

00:58:41.820 But if girls are going to get tattoos, I like the fine lines, like, and they're elegant and beautiful and they pour into your femininity. 0.98

00:58:49.140 I'm talking more so of, like, just getting blasted and having, like, a full sleeve of, like, that I would expect on, like, a Marine, you know?

00:58:56.700 Hey, Kiko, can we see your neck tattoo since we're on the topic?

00:58:59.620 My neck tattoo?

00:59:00.540 Don't you have a little neck tattoo here?

00:59:01.920 Oh, you guys call this neck tattoos behind the ears.

00:59:05.260 Oh, my God.

00:59:07.060 Dave.

00:59:07.900 Now, I'm probably going to get a lot of my tattoo.

00:59:08.940 Here, I'll read it.

00:59:09.580 Actually, Kiko, do you want to read it?

00:59:12.780 What is it?

00:59:14.640 Hi, ladies. 1.00

00:59:15.720 Disregard my dead name.

00:59:17.240 I'm a trigender, non-binary, non-conforming, Therian, trans man with a three-inch micro.

00:59:25.140 I'm as tall as a labradoodle standing.

00:59:28.180 Why do you know how tall a labradoodle is standing?

00:59:30.940 And I have one pierced.

00:59:33.080 Blank.

00:59:33.440 My pronouns are bad dog. 0.87

00:59:35.100 Bad dog self. 0.95

00:59:35.940 Would you date me?

00:59:36.640 Christ is the Lord.

00:59:37.500 No.

00:59:37.700 No.

00:59:39.980 Since y'all didn't answer fast enough, let me just reiterate.

00:59:42.400 No.

00:59:44.440 It depends.

00:59:45.640 I got to meet you.

00:59:46.200 It depends on what.

00:59:47.060 Sounds like a cry for help.

00:59:48.620 Personality.

00:59:49.240 You lost me at the trigender.

00:59:50.760 I've never heard of people being all three.

00:59:52.660 He lost me way before that.

00:59:54.780 The need to give yourselves that many labels is a cry for help.

00:59:58.780 Hey, Eve, thank you, Eve.

01:00:01.540 Wait, what's the third gender? 0.99

01:00:03.520 A wanmi. 0.87

01:00:04.200 Don't, well.

01:00:04.880 Sorry.

01:00:05.260 There's 99 genders, so whichever one they're feeling. 0.52

01:00:07.940 Yeah, aren't there 99?

01:00:08.280 He said he was dog slash dog self.

01:00:11.120 So I guess it's animal.

01:00:12.560 Eve.

01:00:13.560 Hold on, hold on.

01:00:14.760 Eve, thank you for the big $200 super chat.

01:00:17.860 Appreciate it.

01:00:18.280 And thank you for all your support on the previous show.

01:00:20.240 So, Chase, before I have you go, let's finish the previous super chat.

01:00:24.560 Sam, so you said you're turned off his tattoos.

01:00:27.080 Did you say you're turned on?

01:00:28.180 Yeah, my turn on is when a girl is fit. 1.00

01:00:29.860 I love to see a girl that takes care of herself and is fit because it's just super hot. 1.00

01:00:36.040 It's like, wow, you know that that's hot.

01:00:38.640 And you know that being strong and fit is going to be good for your health and for your mental health.

01:00:44.840 And it's going to be good for your womb when you carry my babies. 0.99

01:00:48.660 Do you consider me fit?

01:00:51.100 Yeah, I think that you're a little skinny.

01:00:52.800 Do you work out?

01:00:53.420 Should we do a little fit check?

01:00:54.340 I'm trying to gain weight.

01:00:55.080 It's hard for me.

01:00:55.820 That's the best compliment.

01:00:56.960 Kiko, a little fit check or just so Sam can.

01:01:02.340 Lovely.

01:01:02.860 A little twirl, I reckon.

01:01:04.880 I can't really twirl.

01:01:06.160 Like, all girls are built different. 1.00

01:01:07.560 You've got, like, the slim rib cage that a lot of girls want, right? 1.00

01:01:11.220 And I just think, in general, like, if a girl is fit.

01:01:13.960 Yeah, I work out, like, five, six times a week with my boyfriend.

01:01:16.800 He got me more into it.

01:01:17.820 It just, I struggle on the end if I try to gain weight.

01:01:20.960 I'm on a weight gain journey, but it's really hard for me.

01:01:24.100 You should hit GNC and get on that trend.

01:01:26.960 Yeah, get on that trend.

01:01:28.120 Sweet.

01:01:28.440 No, I like, my voice is already deep enough.

01:01:30.200 Thank you.

01:01:31.000 Chase, turn on, turn off.

01:01:32.840 Physical.

01:01:33.620 Yeah, I'm right there with Sam.

01:01:35.300 I love fit chicks, man. 1.00

01:01:36.940 Like, I've got a thing for, like, Olympic sprinters.

01:01:39.540 Ooh.

01:01:40.580 I like you, Chase.

01:01:41.680 Scandinavian.

01:01:42.600 Scandinavian Olympic sprinters.

01:01:43.860 Let's go.

01:01:44.180 Oh, my God, Eve.

01:01:46.320 He donated $200 and 31 cents.

01:01:49.700 Kiko, that's transphobic.

01:01:51.400 Thank you.

01:01:52.640 Kiko, your response?

01:01:54.640 I, you know, I'm known as the trans warrior.

01:01:57.180 Now I'm transphobic.

01:01:58.300 You can't make everybody happy, I guess.

01:02:00.520 Sorry.

01:02:01.760 You can't win on this one.

01:02:02.880 I can't, you know.

01:02:04.640 To continue.

01:02:06.000 One sec, really quick.

01:02:06.880 Yo, Flan Life, thank you for the big 50 gifted memberships, dude.

01:02:11.140 Thank you.

01:02:11.500 That triggers a fit check, but we'll finish off on the super chat, then we'll do the fit

01:02:16.540 check afterwards.

01:02:18.080 There it is.

01:02:18.620 Thank you, Flan Life.

01:02:19.340 Appreciate it, man.

01:02:20.000 Flan Life is loaded, dude.

01:02:20.960 What a legend.

01:02:21.640 Just absolutely killing it.

01:02:22.400 Dude, thank you, man.

01:02:23.160 Shout out to Eve, too.

01:02:24.120 Eve's been killing it with the super chat the last few episodes. 1.00

01:02:25.740 Thank you so much for the support, Eve.

01:02:26.960 You guys are remarkable.

01:02:29.260 Thank you, guys.

01:02:30.160 Go ahead, Chase.

01:02:30.800 Yeah, I was going to say, love the fit chicks. 1.00

01:02:33.200 If a chick can, like, if she looks like she can move well and she can keep up, like, on an adventure, 1.00

01:02:37.200 she's got, like, tight core, strong legs, good butt. 1.00

01:02:40.660 I love that. 0.85

01:02:41.220 For the zombie apocalypse.

01:02:42.020 That would be crazy.

01:02:42.760 Absolutely.

01:02:43.400 You need, like, a strong...

01:02:44.700 Produce me some strong warrior children, too.

01:02:46.900 Let's go.

01:02:47.480 That's good.

01:02:48.400 That's funny how you guys see it that way.

01:02:50.600 I mean, you kind of touched on it.

01:02:51.580 For me, when I see a fit man, it's more just, like, they care about their health, not really

01:02:56.340 their health.

01:02:57.000 There's that, too, but, like, there's, like, there's a level of fitness where a woman's 1.00

01:03:00.540 also taking care of, like, her nutrition, where you can tell she's both fit and fertile,

01:03:04.620 and it's, like, oh, my gosh.

01:03:06.520 Kills me.

01:03:07.160 FNF. 0.97

01:03:07.500 Yeah.

01:03:07.840 It's especially true for women, because when you get pregnant, like, you're going to have 1.00

01:03:13.660 to lose a lot of that weight, right, once you go back down.

01:03:17.580 Wait, what?

01:03:19.520 But anyways, to move on from that.

01:03:22.820 Yeah, the tattoo thing also turned off for me.

01:03:25.300 One of the things, one of the trends that I really don't like that chicks are doing, 1.00

01:03:28.280 they get tattoos, like, right here.

01:03:29.520 Oh, the sternum tattoo.

01:03:30.660 I hate that, man.

01:03:31.240 I hate that.

01:03:32.200 The sternum tattoo.

01:03:32.820 I'm good again.

01:03:33.800 No snake, no sternum.

01:03:35.340 When they're in a bikini, you can see, like, right there.

01:03:38.580 I don't like that.

01:03:39.440 It's, you know what?

01:03:40.620 The sternum tattoo is the tramp stamp of our generation.

01:03:44.940 That's facts.

01:03:46.100 Tramp stamps still exist.

01:03:47.560 They still exist.

01:03:48.180 They're back in.

01:03:48.460 They're becoming a fit.

01:03:50.420 They're a thing.

01:03:50.980 Ladies, ladies, don't get tramp stamps, please, or sternum tattoos. 1.00

01:03:54.280 They're not, they're not good.

01:03:55.820 Just get them on the side, like me.

01:03:57.360 Especially when it's the, uh, it's like a, uh.

01:03:59.900 It's always like a hippie thing.

01:04:01.240 Like, some sort of, like, a pattern.

01:04:02.580 It is.

01:04:03.200 You know?

01:04:03.600 Like this.

01:04:03.840 It is. 0.99

01:04:04.140 It looks like a chandelier and shit. 0.99

01:04:05.940 Like, they do the chandelier thing. 1.00

01:04:07.420 I'm like, what the fuck? 0.99

01:04:07.780 It's very urban outfitters. 1.00

01:04:09.620 Yes.

01:04:10.580 It's just basic.

01:04:12.420 Yeah, like, just like Kiko's. 1.00

01:04:14.060 Just like that, but on the sternum.

01:04:15.420 Okay, to be fair, this is my first tattoo ever, so.

01:04:18.380 That's your first tattoo ever?

01:04:19.940 Yeah.

01:04:20.140 Yeah, the, the, the snake tattoos are also, I just, I hate the snake tattoos.

01:04:26.700 What's funny about it being my first tattoo?

01:04:28.040 Is that the salamander on your, what, what?

01:04:30.940 Koi fish?

01:04:31.920 Oh, what about the other one?

01:04:33.000 Koi fish?

01:04:33.540 You're playing into it, Brian.

01:04:34.600 Two koi fishers?

01:04:35.220 You're playing into it.

01:04:36.180 This is why they get tattoos.

01:04:38.180 To be asked about it?

01:04:39.300 So that they can get attention.

01:04:40.060 I literally, when anyone asks me, I literally walk away, usually.

01:04:44.080 I would be like, like, oh, what did your tattoos mean? 0.99

01:04:45.500 I'm like, they don't mean shit, bro. 0.98

01:04:47.500 Even if they did, I just.

01:04:48.360 Do you regret any of them?

01:04:49.380 Yeah, I'm getting my whole sleeve, hopefully, lasered off by the end of this year.

01:04:52.980 Wow.

01:04:53.560 How much is that going to cost?

01:04:56.260 If I go through this one company, LaserAway, that I wanted to, it should cost me about like

01:05:00.300 24.

01:05:01.540 I've heard it's pretty painful, too.

01:05:02.940 Yeah, it is.

01:05:03.580 Yeah.

01:05:04.120 Yeah.

01:05:04.580 24.

01:05:05.100 24.

01:05:05.780 Yeah.

01:05:06.340 Okay.

01:05:07.580 Random question for, for Debra. 0.80

01:05:09.240 You're Jewish, correct?

01:05:11.180 Proudly, yes.

01:05:11.920 Do you only date within the religion?

01:05:14.540 I can only marry within the religion, but yeah, I haven't had a serious relationship

01:05:18.740 with somebody who wasn't Jewish.

01:05:19.960 Can you scoot your microphone closer to you?

01:05:22.040 What if you met a guy who you really liked who wasn't Jewish?

01:05:24.700 If he was willing to raise the kids Jewish, then absolutely. 0.93

01:05:27.220 My mom was not so religious when they met my dad, and he like met her halfway, and they

01:05:31.060 worked on it together through like spirituality, learning, and finally got her.

01:05:34.820 Judaism's a very big practice-based religion, so it's not just like, what do you

01:05:37.680 believe?

01:05:38.020 It's like, what do you do?

01:05:39.240 But I know the type of household that I want to have.

01:05:41.400 I know the values I want to instill in my children, and I'm not willing to compromise

01:05:44.580 on that for a relationship now.

01:05:46.940 So if he's willing to compromise, for sure, but I know that I won't.

01:05:51.280 Would you respect a guy that's willing to compromise on his values to raise your Jewish 1.00

01:05:55.120 children?

01:05:55.340 That's a great question.

01:05:56.280 That is a good question.

01:05:56.840 That's a great question, actually.

01:05:57.940 I think it depends.

01:05:59.040 There's a lot of guys that I've met who are newly Christian, recently baptized, recently

01:06:03.640 just got into it, spent most of their life either just wishy-washy, never had such a strong

01:06:08.260 faith background, or they were atheist or agnostic, and then changed their mind.

01:06:12.520 I think those I would be able to respect, because I'm like, oh, you were just shopping

01:06:16.040 around for religion until you landed on this one, but somebody who was a devout Christian

01:06:19.840 for like 23 years of their life, and then meets me, and they're like, yeah, I'd convert

01:06:23.460 to Judaism for you.

01:06:24.440 I'm like, beta.

01:06:25.840 Keep going.

01:06:26.680 Yeah.

01:06:27.040 It also doesn't count.

01:06:28.060 You can't convert for love in Judaism. 0.98

01:06:29.440 So, like, they have to actually really want to be a Jew. 0.97

01:06:32.620 That's a great question.

01:06:33.580 And I will answer the super chat.

01:06:36.300 Turn off physically.

01:06:39.620 That's a tough one.

01:06:40.120 Over five foot.

01:06:42.180 Billy's in the clear, then.

01:06:43.820 Billy's five foot-o.

01:06:45.720 That's it.

01:06:46.660 Turn off.

01:06:47.440 I would say any plastic surgery or excessive vanity in terms of makeup.

01:06:56.180 So if you wear too much makeup.

01:06:57.880 What do you consider, too much makeup?

01:06:59.980 Yeah.

01:07:00.240 Honestly, like.

01:07:01.020 I wouldn't know that.

01:07:01.780 Honestly, anything.

01:07:02.600 You guys don't even be knowing.

01:07:03.600 Are any of us wearing too much makeup?

01:07:05.140 Yeah.

01:07:06.500 We don't.

01:07:07.000 So, well, first off, you guys have been invited to appear on camera, so I recognize

01:07:12.020 that there's a difference when it comes to the stage and, like, versus a girl I would

01:07:18.980 be dating in real life.

01:07:20.560 But, for example, if some of you were, like, yeah, you wear too much makeup.

01:07:25.920 Too much makeup.

01:07:28.020 I'm wearing too much makeup.

01:07:29.120 Well, the purpose of doing that for the lighting, also, because, like, the camera washes it

01:07:33.340 out.

01:07:33.360 Again, you're here on a show, but, like, in a different context.

01:07:37.760 Are you wearing anything on your face?

01:07:39.460 I think you've contoured your nose.

01:07:41.880 Oh, you guys are.

01:07:42.480 I would say it's a bit much.

01:07:43.460 The boys are on to us.

01:07:45.220 They're all.

01:07:45.940 We're all wearing about the same amount of makeup.

01:07:48.160 I feel like, yeah.

01:07:48.820 I think I just have really clear skin under, so you can't tell.

01:07:51.380 Are you wearing anything on your cheeks or just eyeliner?

01:07:53.660 I am.

01:07:54.340 Okay.

01:07:54.780 It's minimal, though, but I do see it.

01:07:57.420 Very much, like, full glam here.

01:07:59.200 Yeah, full glam.

01:08:00.560 Full face.

01:08:01.740 I don't have...

01:08:02.280 That's so funny.

01:08:03.000 I don't have a full face makeup on.

01:08:03.760 Yeah, I could go so much more glam than that.

01:08:05.180 Yeah, I don't even wear...

01:08:06.280 This is my medium glam.

01:08:06.400 Like, you guys don't even understand.

01:08:07.500 But I don't wear makeup on a day-to-day face.

01:08:08.620 I see either.

01:08:09.300 I don't even...

01:08:09.780 It just feels gross to me.

01:08:11.260 Like, it slides off.

01:08:12.380 I have makeup right here.

01:08:13.860 I don't even have makeup...

01:08:14.520 I don't even wearing foundation.

01:08:15.700 You got stuff on there.

01:08:16.600 You're not wearing any foundation?

01:08:17.840 No, I have, like, concealer under my eyes.

01:08:19.980 Okay.

01:08:20.260 But I have, like, in my bronzer.

01:08:21.140 Oh, she's a pick-me. 1.00

01:08:22.400 She's a pick-me. 0.99

01:08:22.860 Yeah, she's a pick-me. 1.00

01:08:24.180 Like, my whole point...

01:08:26.080 Lipstick right here? 0.96

01:08:26.420 Not anymore.

01:08:27.540 Yeah, my lipstick's also kind of...

01:08:29.060 Yeah, not anymore.

01:08:30.040 Okay.

01:08:30.260 It's like, you guys don't understand what it even looks like.

01:08:33.800 I know what makeup...

01:08:34.360 They can trick you.

01:08:34.480 I know what it looks like.

01:08:35.580 I know what it looks like.

01:08:36.120 No, girls can trick you so easily. 1.00

01:08:37.540 You'll be like, wow, she's not wearing any makeup.

01:08:39.180 Like, that one girl?

01:08:39.700 That one girl who comes on here and is like, I don't believe in makeup. 0.93

01:08:42.480 Nah, I got pillows.

01:08:43.480 I know what you guys are doing.

01:08:44.520 I take my makeup off before I go to sleep. 1.00

01:08:46.320 The fucking pillows and shit. 1.00

01:08:47.860 Smack us in the face with a pillow. 1.00

01:08:49.440 Whoever releases the most makeup is like, bitch for the night. 1.00

01:08:52.140 Who are you dating that sleeps in their makeup? 1.00

01:08:54.800 What?

01:08:55.240 Let's say you...

01:08:56.020 That girl don't care about her skincare. 1.00

01:08:57.320 Let's say a girl comes over to your place and, you know, you're in the bedroom. 1.00

01:09:02.920 She lays down on the fucking pillow. 1.00

01:09:04.880 Boom, motherfucker. 1.00

01:09:05.580 It's like... 1.00

01:09:06.640 It's like the shroud of Turin.

01:09:07.720 She needs settings.

01:09:08.460 That's what she needs.

01:09:09.240 It's on the pillow.

01:09:09.800 Have you seen the shroud of Turin?

01:09:11.680 Yeah, I have.

01:09:12.180 She needs some one-size. 1.00

01:09:15.260 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:09:16.080 But I would say anything more than a bit of either eyeliner or mascara is a bit of a letdown.

01:09:22.500 You know, and I'm telling you right now, it looks...

01:09:24.680 No offense to you guys if that's what you guys do in your day-to-day.

01:09:27.840 90% of the girls who I see who only wear... 1.00

01:09:30.380 Especially if you're wearing eyeliner and nothing else on your face, it looks hideous.

01:09:33.840 You need to balance it out.

01:09:35.140 If you're just wearing...

01:09:36.300 Yes, it doesn't look good.

01:09:37.280 I agree.

01:09:37.740 It doesn't look good.

01:09:38.480 I agree.

01:09:38.500 I know it's a girl...

01:09:39.140 You need to have balance.

01:09:40.640 Yeah.

01:09:40.760 Just like how I want to put concealer on for the cameras, so I have to put a little bit

01:09:44.040 of blush and bronzer to even it out.

01:09:46.160 You just have to keep doing those things or you're going to look insane.

01:09:49.620 Oh, okay.

01:09:50.220 I do want to say that I feel like I don't wear makeup on a daily basis.

01:09:53.200 Not because I'm like, I don't love it just because I do a lot of things throughout the day

01:09:56.320 and especially with working out, I don't want to get it...

01:09:58.860 Yeah, I'm just going to sweat it off, so I have really good skincare, really good moisturizer,

01:10:02.080 but I do find that when I'm in a relationship with a guy, I don't touch makeup unless we're

01:10:06.460 going somewhere fancy, but I think that's more of just like, I know that I'm good no matter

01:10:10.820 what and I love wearing makeup.

01:10:13.660 I'll put makeup on just for myself on Friday nights to have fun, try new makeup looks, but

01:10:17.760 at the same time, I definitely feel that like, well, who doesn't want to present the

01:10:22.020 best version of themselves when they're trying to attract a mate or a lover?

01:10:25.120 Well, you mean a fantasy version of yourself, but sure.

01:10:28.060 Well, I don't know.

01:10:29.020 There's two types of makeup.

01:10:30.060 There's makeup where like, you completely change what you look like.

01:10:33.160 Sure, there's degrees to it, but at the end of the day, it's all a lie.

01:10:35.820 Well, there's makeup that just enhances some of your face a little bit, like putting a

01:10:38.760 little concealer over a pimple that you have isn't necessarily a lie, but then there's

01:10:42.520 people who like contour their nose so intensely, put such big eyelashes, put overlying their

01:10:46.740 lips where they don't look anything similar.

01:10:49.040 When I take my makeup off, I still look like the same person.

01:10:51.320 Look, at the end of the day, it's not, I don't care that much, but so, okay,

01:10:55.040 for me, in terms of something that's a physical turnoff, makeup, excessive makeup, anything

01:11:00.040 where if we were to kiss, if it were to rub off on me, don't like it, don't like it.

01:11:04.700 I don't want it on my face.

01:11:06.560 But in addition to that, I also mentioned plastic surgery. 0.99

01:11:10.700 So fake tits, BBL, lipo. 1.00

01:11:13.760 So those are the three main ones. 1.00

01:11:15.900 What about fillers?

01:11:17.260 Oh, lip fillers? 1.00

01:11:19.020 Fucking. 1.00

01:11:19.540 What about like cheese fillers? 1.00

01:11:20.480 What about labia?

01:11:21.180 They're so obvious.

01:11:22.200 It's so obvious.

01:11:24.060 They're like freaky, too.

01:11:25.160 Sometimes they're obvious.

01:11:25.900 I mean, people tell me all the time, oh, you have fillers, you have this.

01:11:28.160 I've never touched my face.

01:11:29.900 Like, I will never do that.

01:11:30.920 So it's like, is she attractive?

01:11:32.620 Does she have fillers?

01:11:33.140 So you have, you know, you know what I don't like are the, like, tattoo on lipstick.

01:11:38.320 Oh, I don't see that.

01:11:39.760 I'm not going to age well either.

01:11:40.840 But yeah, when it comes to, here's the thing with like the plastic surgery stuff.

01:11:47.400 Even if a girl had, for example, no boobs, like flat, whatever, I would prefer her as 1.00

01:11:55.280 she is like that than with her fake tits. 1.00

01:11:58.600 That's very refreshing to hear. 1.00

01:12:00.240 I would prefer. 0.99

01:12:01.100 That's a great tits. 1.00

01:12:01.960 I agree. 0.99

01:12:03.460 We love that.

01:12:04.220 We love supporting people in their original bodies.

01:12:06.120 That's right.

01:12:06.520 We're not going under the knife.

01:12:07.820 No, that's not big at all.

01:12:09.080 Beautiful values.

01:12:10.020 A pick me, a pick me, you would say, I would appreciate her.

01:12:12.320 Girls feel so pressured to get this stuff done just to fit in with the rest. 0.99

01:12:15.100 And it's nice to hear guys still appreciating all the intensity.

01:12:17.540 I would say, I would say too, I agree with Brian's take and I would actively discourage,

01:12:21.380 personally, I would actively discourage women from getting implants, especially because 1.00

01:12:24.500 they cause health issues.

01:12:25.740 A lot of hormonal imbalances, horrible things.

01:12:28.400 Financial components.

01:12:28.960 There's a lot of immune issues, hormonal issues, cancer down the line.

01:12:31.960 Yeah, my boyfriend, that's like the one procedure I want.

01:12:34.580 It was a breast, it was a boob job. 1.00

01:12:36.120 My boyfriend should have said, like, I would leave you. 0.99

01:12:38.060 He will not stay with me.

01:12:39.200 I love your boyfriend for you.

01:12:40.400 I feel like he's a really good influence.

01:12:41.580 He is.

01:12:41.980 He's an amazing man.

01:12:42.980 Honestly, I'm blessed.

01:12:43.480 What were you going to say?

01:12:44.040 Yeah, no, I was just going to add.

01:12:45.100 Happy for you, girl. 0.97

01:12:46.080 Would prefer a girl who, if she, let's say she had fake boobs, I don't care if they were, 1.00

01:12:52.040 one was bigger than the other and there's some sort of deformity or some shit. 1.00

01:12:56.600 Aren't they all? 0.99

01:12:57.240 Aren't they all as bigger than you?

01:12:58.040 Sometimes there's a bit of, whatever.

01:13:01.420 I'm going to be honest, I have nothing to lie about here. 0.99

01:13:03.600 I would prefer a girl totally flat than with fake tits. 1.00

01:13:07.000 Same with a butt. 1.00

01:13:07.940 If she had no butt, I would prefer it than a BBL. 1.00

01:13:10.800 Butts are doable. 0.98

01:13:11.440 Same with a lipo.

01:13:12.660 I've seen the...

01:13:14.000 It's a belly button.

01:13:17.000 It's not the scar.

01:13:18.320 It's just like, I've seen it and it just looks like dehydrated.

01:13:22.720 It's hard to explain.

01:13:23.360 Because it doesn't match the rest of their body too.

01:13:25.000 It doesn't look good. 0.99

01:13:25.800 They suck it from one spot. 0.99

01:13:26.500 I would prefer a girl who has a little belly over like flat lipo belly. 1.00

01:13:31.680 It just, to me, doesn't look good. 1.00

01:13:33.100 So all that shit, same with lips. 1.00

01:13:35.240 I feel like it's a mark of a man. 1.00

01:13:36.900 Like a man wants a real woman more than a fake version of her.

01:13:40.340 Like a real man should choose a woman over this thing. 0.90

01:13:42.480 And it's the same with plastics.

01:13:43.980 And I think if more men preach that message, women would be less likely to go under the knife 0.95

01:13:48.820 because they're doing it for you guys.

01:13:50.020 They're not doing it for us.

01:13:50.440 Do you think it's driven by assumed male interest or do you think it's driven by female competition?

01:13:56.120 Female competition. 1.00

01:13:56.760 Oh, absolutely.

01:13:57.800 What are we competing for?

01:13:58.920 Male interest.

01:14:00.080 My question is how many women who are getting plastic surgery are... 1.00

01:14:03.080 Like in LA, for example, so many chicks plastic surgeried out. 1.00

01:14:06.900 How many of them are doing it because they see so many other chicks doing it 1.00

01:14:10.320 and they're like, oh, I have to be like this.

01:14:11.620 They're not doing it for themselves.

01:14:13.140 They're doing it because they have to compete for the male's attention. 1.00

01:14:16.580 That's what female competition is based off. 1.00

01:14:18.320 Everyone's just trying to get the best man they can get.

01:14:20.180 Right, of course.

01:14:20.960 But what I'm asking is do you think they're getting it because they heard from men that men like it

01:14:26.240 or because they're seeing so many other chicks do it? 1.00

01:14:29.460 I don't think men know what they actually like.

01:14:31.000 I feel like other people do it.

01:14:31.960 No, men definitely know what they like. 0.99

01:14:33.320 Yeah?

01:14:33.740 Oh, yeah.

01:14:34.380 I know what I like.

01:14:35.420 I think most men, most of my friends do.

01:14:37.680 If you ask most men, most of them would say, I would prefer a girl without plastic surgery.

01:14:42.640 But that's the thing.

01:14:43.620 You guys say that and a lot of that is true. 0.98

01:14:46.520 But then when it's portrayed on social media, it'll be like, oh, I fucking love Kylie Jenner. 0.91

01:14:51.420 I love Kendall. 0.95

01:14:52.260 I love this.

01:14:52.980 Kendall might look like she's natural. 1.00

01:14:55.500 Everything about her is fake.

01:14:56.580 She's had almost probably every procedure you could think of besides a whole BBL. 1.00

01:15:00.900 I would prefer Kendall without any of the...

01:15:02.880 I believe you when you say that.

01:15:04.680 Wait, is it Kendall or Kylie?

01:15:06.200 Kylie.

01:15:06.660 Kendall has a lot of surgery too. 0.99

01:15:08.300 You might not think it.

01:15:08.940 I thought it was Kylie who... 0.99

01:15:10.220 Kylie's had multiple BBLs, revisions, all this stuff.

01:15:12.740 But Kendall, you might look at Kendall and be like, oh, she's a model. 1.00

01:15:15.340 She's skinny. 1.00

01:15:15.920 She hasn't had any work done.

01:15:17.240 She's had her whole...

01:15:18.060 She's had an eye lift.

01:15:18.900 She's had her nose done.

01:15:20.000 She's had probably like fat transfers.

01:15:22.480 There's nothing about any of them that's natural.

01:15:24.620 It's so weird.

01:15:25.100 It's so weird.

01:15:25.420 Especially in LA nowadays.

01:15:26.700 And also, it's a content thing now too.

01:15:28.620 It's a content creation to get surgery done.

01:15:31.260 It's a way to keep up on social media.

01:15:32.980 It's such a bad thing for our culture too because like Elon Musk, when he was on Joe Rogan,

01:15:36.980 he made the point that like social media is geared for like, he called it limbic resonance,

01:15:40.960 right?

01:15:41.260 You open your feed and you see an attractive member of the opposite sex and like that's 1.00

01:15:44.860 what the feed like starts to deliver you.

01:15:47.620 And it's like shifting our culture's preferences and like what a lot of people I feel like are

01:15:52.900 looking for and what they think is attractive and it's pushing it in a direction that's really

01:15:56.860 not resonating with like the majority of people, I feel like.

01:15:59.540 That's why it's...

01:16:00.300 Yeah.

01:16:00.500 It's like artificially inflating things that people don't actually like because, you know, dudes,

01:16:05.280 for example, they're seeing like the big butts that are fake and stuff like that and

01:16:08.320 they're like clicking on it.

01:16:09.500 It's a money scheme as well.

01:16:11.140 It's just like how the heart of America will portray things to make us worse.

01:16:13.880 It's moneyless.

01:16:14.280 Look, how common are BBLs? 1.00

01:16:15.160 You guys aren't rocking with Lizzo's ass? 1.00

01:16:17.680 Oh, no. 1.00

01:16:19.340 Does she have a BBL? 0.92

01:16:20.660 I think you're thinking of like...

01:16:21.900 I think she is definition of like a BBL. 1.00

01:16:24.900 Yeah, she is.

01:16:25.800 How common are BBLs? 0.60

01:16:27.600 She always talks about...

01:16:28.760 In Miami?

01:16:29.640 Yeah, I think.

01:16:30.820 In Miami?

01:16:32.260 Oh, yeah.

01:16:32.820 Miami is plastic.

01:16:33.740 Pretty bad.

01:16:34.940 That's what Dr. Miami is.

01:16:36.000 Speaking of plastic surgery, as far as my turn-ons physically, I'll give two.

01:16:43.580 Okay.

01:16:43.780 I like short girls. 1.00

01:16:45.920 So like if her height doesn't start with four... 1.00

01:16:48.760 I'm out of the picture.

01:16:49.660 Just get out of here. 0.96

01:16:50.440 No, I'm kidding.

01:16:51.140 I'll date women taller than me, but I do have a slight preference for women who are shorter.

01:16:56.440 And then, speaking of plastic surgery... 1.00

01:17:03.440 Are you an ass or tits guy, Brian? 1.00

01:17:05.520 I would say you have a slight preference for women who are shorter. 1.00

01:17:08.800 Well, here's the thing.

01:17:10.020 It's not a...

01:17:11.080 Just a slight preference.

01:17:12.500 Here's the thing.

01:17:12.960 In the same way that there are women who it's like, I will not date a short guy. 0.55

01:17:18.180 I will not date a guy shorter than me.

01:17:20.280 I'll date a girl who's taller than me.

01:17:21.960 Actually?

01:17:22.480 Yeah, I'll date a girl who's taller than me. 0.83

01:17:24.020 I'll date a woman who's around my height. 1.00

01:17:25.880 But I do have a slight leaning towards like 4'10".

01:17:31.160 Doug, you see short chicks and you're like, yo. 0.99

01:17:34.240 Why is he capping right now?

01:17:35.480 No, it's true.

01:17:35.940 He's lying.

01:17:36.380 No, I do.

01:17:37.920 I'm like...

01:17:38.440 I do really, really like short women. 1.00

01:17:41.000 However, Brian sees a 4'11 girl and he's like, yo, am I in love right now?

01:17:44.380 Yeah.

01:17:48.880 But so...

01:17:50.280 And the second one.

01:17:51.240 The second one, Chase, I saw you grabbing your mic, so I thought you were going to...

01:17:53.760 Okay.

01:17:54.480 I'll let you do it.

01:17:55.100 I'm a fan of...

01:17:56.540 Look, women get shamed for it. 1.00

01:17:59.440 Large labia, okay? 0.99

01:18:01.280 Physically, I like women with large labia. 1.00

01:18:03.700 You like beef curtains? 0.85

01:18:04.040 I'm a fan.

01:18:05.020 Of the beef curtains?

01:18:05.660 I'm a fan.

01:18:06.060 Are you actually...

01:18:06.560 He is the king of beef curtains.

01:18:08.200 Listen, I...

01:18:08.740 Do I even want to know?

01:18:09.700 I'm a woman's advocate.

01:18:11.000 I'm an advocate for women and...

01:18:13.680 Roast beef?

01:18:14.840 Hey, let's not...

01:18:15.420 How did we get to beef curtains?

01:18:17.340 That's very inappropriate.

01:18:18.620 Let's call them outies. 1.00

01:18:20.060 Let's call them outies. 1.00

01:18:21.640 Outies. 0.82

01:18:22.000 Outies and innies.

01:18:23.160 I'm a fan of outies, okay?

01:18:24.340 And speaking of...

01:18:25.780 Brian is a deli connoisseur.

01:18:27.400 Speaking of...

01:18:28.300 Chase, that is deeply offensive.

01:18:30.320 I'd like you to apologize to all the women out there who have... 1.00

01:18:33.620 I just want to apologize to absolutely nobody.

01:18:36.360 You're going to jail with pancake plan B, dude.

01:18:38.460 That is terrible.

01:18:39.440 Right to jail.

01:18:39.940 But women get plastic surgery called labiaplasty to remove the lips. 1.00

01:18:48.460 And it's a tragedy that women feel compelled to undergo a dangerous and unnecessary operation.

01:18:58.000 Brian, on their genitalia. 0.96

01:18:59.960 Are you dead serious? 0.99

01:19:01.900 Bro, yeah, bro.

01:19:02.640 You like flopping around in there?

01:19:05.400 Dude, the bigger, the better.

01:19:07.000 And I don't like your characterization of the...

01:19:09.780 Why are you shaking your head?

01:19:10.660 You're not a fan of the outies?

01:19:13.060 Oh, no, I am.

01:19:13.920 You're not team outie?

01:19:14.760 What's up?

01:19:15.280 I am.

01:19:17.120 Look.

01:19:20.100 I'm a fan.

01:19:21.040 What?

01:19:21.980 I can't tell if he's serious or not.

01:19:23.440 No, I'm dead serious.

01:19:24.620 Chase, is he serious?

01:19:25.340 Labioplasty are not usually for appearance reasons.

01:19:26.700 I haven't been able to figure out if it's a bit yet.

01:19:28.980 Labiaplasty are primarily done for cosmetic reasons. 0.61

01:19:32.180 Really?

01:19:32.820 Yes.

01:19:34.080 That's, yeah, because women... 1.00

01:19:35.400 I've only heard of people, the people I've seen who've done that were usually because

01:19:37.900 of pain.

01:19:39.080 Some women do have pain if they have an outie. 1.00

01:19:41.020 However, most women do it for cosmetic reasons because women are shamed for it. 1.00

01:19:46.620 This sounds so pick me.

01:19:48.360 I can't believe I...

01:19:49.380 No. 0.96

01:19:50.000 I've never had a friend be like, he took down my pants and said my labia was too big. 0.89

01:19:54.640 Like, most men, they just want the vagine. 0.76

01:19:57.240 They don't care what's going on.

01:19:58.800 Well, sure.

01:19:59.220 Most men don't care. 0.63

01:19:59.380 As long as there ain't no bumps.

01:20:00.560 I care.

01:20:00.960 I don't care.

01:20:01.280 Why do you...

01:20:01.640 Wait, you wouldn't...

01:20:02.520 Hold on.

01:20:03.000 I thought you were a virgin. 0.98

01:20:03.700 I'm not a fan of the outies. 1.00

01:20:05.160 All right.

01:20:05.380 So she's not a fan.

01:20:06.500 She's a virgin. 0.55

01:20:07.620 She's a virgin and she has an outie. 1.00

01:20:08.920 She fulfills the whole...

01:20:10.260 So...

01:20:10.540 It's your wedding night?

01:20:11.880 I like a neat and tidy situation going on.

01:20:13.520 So I have a question.

01:20:14.200 I have a question.

01:20:14.780 So if you are waiting until marriage, is she just busting it open for you so you can make 0.96

01:20:19.780 sure that she has it in the knee? 1.00

01:20:21.280 Or like, how do you know that?

01:20:22.060 Are you going to watch her like when she puts her tamp on her? 1.00

01:20:23.500 That's what I'm saying.

01:20:24.280 Like, how do you make sure that?

01:20:25.180 It's your wedding.

01:20:25.540 Go to the beach.

01:20:26.020 You can't tell?

01:20:27.080 Bro, you cannot tell in a bikini.

01:20:28.820 Bro, you can't tell.

01:20:29.700 If it's full-blown beef curtains like you're describing.

01:20:32.360 Hold on.

01:20:32.800 You're going to be able to tell.

01:20:36.200 Hell yeah.

01:20:36.720 What is everyone's take on the fat acceptance movement?

01:20:39.980 We still need to do a fit check, by the way, for plan life.

01:20:42.680 Fat acceptance movement.

01:20:43.880 I think the fat acceptance movement is terrible. 0.66

01:20:46.380 Body positivity.

01:20:47.080 Sam.

01:20:47.240 Here, go ahead.

01:20:48.160 You were about to say something.

01:20:50.000 Okay, so like, I am all for people being healthy, all about themselves.

01:20:56.260 Like I said, like, I don't know how to say this, but like, basically, like, I get a lot 0.98

01:21:01.800 of shit for what I wear. 0.99

01:21:03.640 Like, people are like, oh, you shouldn't wear that. 1.00

01:21:05.500 It's for your body, blah, blah, blah. 1.00

01:21:07.860 For me, like, I don't wear this shit to, like, be, get it for attention. 0.99

01:21:13.280 I do this because this is what makes me feel beautiful. 0.99

01:21:15.960 This is what I'm comfortable with in my skin.

01:21:18.600 Yeah, maybe I'm not supposed to wear this, but guess what I do for me? 0.98

01:21:22.920 Because you're a baddie. 0.97

01:21:23.980 Exactly. 0.98

01:21:24.460 That's what I'm certified.

01:21:25.080 Full-time certified.

01:21:25.800 Full-time.

01:21:26.440 Full-time.

01:21:27.340 No, that's exactly what it is. 1.00

01:21:29.040 Like, I don't give a fuck if, like, my fucking background is coming out. 0.99

01:21:31.900 Yeah, maybe there's some things, like, of course, must cover up, like, my nipples and 1.00

01:21:34.800 private ears, whatever. 0.92

01:21:35.980 But, like, no, like, let's be real.

01:21:39.100 Like, no, no, no.

01:21:39.820 Like, let's be real. 0.99

01:21:40.680 Okay, like, I'm a fucking plus-sized, I'm literally, I'm a fucking plus-sized trans woman 0.99

01:21:44.340 living in Arizona. 0.99

01:21:46.200 Wait, did you say you're trans woman?

01:21:47.000 Wait, you're trans?

01:21:47.900 Yes, I'm trans.

01:21:48.680 I thought, she... 1.00

01:21:50.140 We did not know this.

01:21:51.260 I did not know that.

01:21:52.340 I'm a plus-sized...

01:21:52.800 I thought you could always tell.

01:21:54.500 Honestly?

01:21:54.880 Apparently not.

01:21:55.580 Honestly, I thought that you were trans.

01:21:57.620 Period.

01:21:58.460 And honestly, like... 0.91

01:21:58.940 But you can still be a full-time baddie.

01:22:00.700 Yeah, no, of course. 1.00

01:22:01.540 And like I said, like, there's a lot of shit, especially, like, with... 1.00

01:22:05.340 We already get a lot of shit within our own sisterhood of trans, of trans girls. 1.00

01:22:08.440 A lot of the trans girls are, like, all about the whole Kylie, BBL, whatever. 1.00

01:22:12.940 That's what I was going to bring up, too, when you guys are talking about plastic surgery.

01:22:15.800 Like, I'm...

01:22:16.660 Like I said, I could, like, probably do different perspectives than you guys, because you guys

01:22:20.580 are cis women.

01:22:21.720 Period.

01:22:22.040 Into the mic, into the mic.

01:22:22.940 Oh, period.

01:22:23.140 Sorry, I just wanted to make sure.

01:22:24.240 Yeah, yeah, of course.

01:22:25.220 Of course.

01:22:25.940 But a lot of trans girls do the classic surgery stuff just to necessarily fit in. 1.00

01:22:31.520 And that's something that, like, me as myself, like, yeah, eventually right now,

01:22:36.300 I'm working on my own pace, like, of getting healthy, maybe getting a little thinner,

01:22:39.560 feeling better about myself.

01:22:41.320 But a lot of the girls, especially the dolls, like, that's what trans girls refer to themselves 0.99

01:22:46.700 as the dolls, period.

01:22:49.040 They kind of do the most outrageous things to fit into the category of let's have the

01:22:55.120 BBL, let's have the fake titties, let's do the brow shave, let's do all kinds of things. 0.92

01:23:00.660 And nine times out of ten, I don't even feel like, you know, a lot of girls do do it 0.87

01:23:04.020 for themselves, but sometimes a lot of girls, a very small percentage, like, they do it

01:23:08.040 for validation of men, you know?

01:23:10.280 Word?

01:23:11.580 Word?

01:23:12.680 Word.

01:23:13.300 But like I said, a lot of the girls, especially, like, how do I say this?

01:23:19.240 A lot of the dolls do this for, like, themselves, obviously because they want to do it for

01:23:22.640 themselves, but there's still that very small percentage of girls who do it for boys.

01:23:27.240 And, like, I just wish that that small percentage of girls be like, nah, like, you're a baddie already. 1.00

01:23:30.480 If you want to go ahead and do something for yourself, BBL, titties, whatever, I'm all

01:23:34.540 for it, but don't do it out of the validation for, like, a man.

01:23:37.440 Do it for yourself.

01:23:38.480 I agree.

01:23:38.920 Or because of a trend.

01:23:39.800 I agree.

01:23:40.220 Exactly.

01:23:40.780 Or just to fit into what you think that that's what a woman should be like. 1.00

01:23:43.480 Bro, you should be smashing the haram button at the suggestion of these BBLs and fake 1.00

01:23:48.140 titties and stuff. 0.95

01:23:48.860 Where's that haram button when you need it?

01:23:50.580 Wait, what?

01:23:51.380 Haram.

01:23:51.960 Am I misunderstanding?

01:23:53.580 Hold on.

01:23:53.940 She's saying go get those BBLs.

01:23:55.160 Oh, you're saying go get them.

01:23:56.300 If it makes you feel good, she's saying.

01:23:58.540 If you're all for it, then do it.

01:24:00.560 Trans or not trans, whatever. 0.95

01:24:01.780 She's saying if you're doing it for yourself.

01:24:03.100 Yeah, if you're doing it for yourself. 1.00

01:24:04.900 Like, do it because it's like, I want to walk around with a fat ass every day and I love 1.00

01:24:08.860 the way that I look. 0.99

01:24:09.980 Who gets big cosmetic surgeries just for themselves, though?

01:24:13.200 A lot of people do.

01:24:14.240 I feel like everybody's doing it for, like, the acceptance of the opposite sex. 0.99

01:24:16.420 The only thing that would be for yourself is a breast reduction. 0.83

01:24:19.240 Into the mic.

01:24:19.500 Sorry, the only thing that would be for yourself is a breast reduction.

01:24:21.820 I disagree, though, because.

01:24:22.960 I agree.

01:24:23.780 Hold on.

01:24:24.360 Let me just add to that.

01:24:25.300 There are, I mean, plastic surgery originated to fix things like World War I, soldiers from

01:24:34.200 World War I who got, like, their face deformed.

01:24:37.620 And then, like, for example, women who have or had breast cancer and they had a breast removed,

01:24:44.220 they might get, you know, implants to kind of balance it out where there's, like, an actual

01:24:50.800 deformity caused by a medical condition.

01:24:53.020 Yeah, but my point is people augmenting their bodies. 0.93

01:24:57.140 It's primarily for cosmetic.

01:24:59.020 Yeah, for cosmetic purposes, oftentimes it's to appear more attractive to the opposite sex. 0.92

01:25:03.620 100%.

01:25:03.940 But then there's, like, those people who it's to appear better to the opposite sex. 0.99

01:25:07.380 But then we all know there's a lot of people who have plastic surgery who look fucking terrible. 1.00

01:25:12.220 They look absolutely disgusting. 0.99

01:25:13.980 There's a whole show around it. 0.98

01:25:15.100 Yeah, but most of those people, they're really doing it for themselves.

01:25:18.400 They don't care about what other people think because 90% of the people around them are

01:25:21.760 telling them they look terrible.

01:25:23.000 And they still continue to get more and more surgeries. 0.91

01:25:25.400 It's usually a mental illness.

01:25:26.600 They're diluted.

01:25:27.040 They have body dysmorphia, things like that.

01:25:28.460 But they are really doing it for themselves.

01:25:30.360 It might have started out, like, you know, another way.

01:25:33.280 But you can't tell me that, like, that cat lying lady isn't doing it for herself. 1.00

01:25:36.880 Hold on.

01:25:38.080 You wanted to say something?

01:25:39.340 Go ahead.

01:25:40.520 Did you want to say something at some point?

01:25:41.920 I think that people absolutely do do it for themselves.

01:25:46.640 But it does work hand-in-hand with male validation.

01:25:49.460 Like, you, I feel like a lot of girls, like, look on Instagram and see a picture of Kylie Jenner.

01:25:54.520 And, like, oh, I want to look like that. 0.98

01:25:56.140 Like, I want to have a big butt. 0.98

01:25:57.380 Like, I think it's, I think it goes both ways. 0.99

01:25:59.840 I want to have a big butt so I can get more boys' attention. 1.00

01:26:02.360 It could be that. 0.99

01:26:03.140 But I feel like that's not their first thought.

01:26:05.340 Like, I want to do that because of.

01:26:07.580 It's probably not their first thought.

01:26:08.940 But they intuitively know, if I get this, I'm going to get more attention from boys. 0.99

01:26:12.420 If, like, boys didn't exist, they wouldn't be like, oh, I want a big butt. 1.00

01:26:15.200 I mean, lesbians can do. 1.00

01:26:16.600 I think that could happen, though.

01:26:18.480 There's room for that.

01:26:19.780 Last thing. 0.53

01:26:20.480 So I just want to add, you know, a lot of you scoffed when I said I'd like large labia.

01:26:28.260 I'm just saying.

01:26:28.860 Some of you gave me some looks.

01:26:30.860 Hold on.

01:26:31.360 Wait, Brian, can I say something real quick?

01:26:33.740 One sec.

01:26:34.360 One sec. 0.87

01:26:34.660 Okay, so women have preferences when it comes to male genitalia. 1.00

01:26:44.020 Huh? 0.61

01:26:44.680 So I can have a preference, too.

01:26:47.520 Just saying.

01:26:48.220 Women can have preferences. 1.00

01:26:49.420 Men can have preferences.

01:26:50.600 Sam, go ahead.

01:26:51.300 Okay.

01:26:51.640 So we're talking about, like, women augmenting their body for the male gaze or not for themselves. 0.99

01:26:57.820 Okay?

01:26:58.000 And I want to bring attention to, like, this guy, Dylan Mulvaney.

01:27:03.180 Okay?

01:27:03.380 Nope.

01:27:03.540 I want to talk about that.

01:27:04.220 Nope.

01:27:04.460 Sorry, dude.

01:27:05.040 We can't talk about that?

01:27:06.040 Nope.

01:27:06.800 Maybe later.

01:27:07.680 We can talk about that.

01:27:08.200 I just wanted to talk about the fact that getting breast implants, getting a BBL, doing all this,

01:27:14.880 your body isn't what makes you a woman. 1.00

01:27:16.960 Like, you are a woman by your chromosomes. 0.99

01:27:18.960 We'll come back to that.

01:27:19.680 But you're...

01:27:20.400 Sam, we can talk about that later, okay?

01:27:22.640 Brian's stopping him from spitting facts.

01:27:24.340 Okay.

01:27:24.660 I'm just saying, you know, it doesn't...

01:27:25.920 That's not what makes you a woman. 1.00

01:27:27.360 A woman is when you are, like, warm and nurturing and when you're an alchemist and you can turn a man's love into a baby.

01:27:34.020 When you can turn a home or a house into a home.

01:27:36.340 Okay.

01:27:36.660 It's when you...

01:27:36.880 Go off.

01:27:38.000 There are not just...

01:27:39.080 It's not just what you look like.

01:27:40.460 Chase, are you seriously...

01:27:42.380 Him talking about what a woman is?

01:27:44.940 Chase, it's my show, okay?

01:27:46.740 Please.

01:27:47.240 Go ahead.

01:27:48.340 If I'm going to direct the conversation to not talk about this right now, we can bring it up later.

01:27:53.540 I have a plan for the show.

01:27:55.000 Okay?

01:27:55.460 Yeah.

01:27:55.840 We can stick to it.

01:27:56.540 All right?

01:27:57.000 Yeah.

01:27:57.120 He's spitting facts, though.

01:27:57.980 We should come back to it later.

01:27:59.180 But if we don't...

01:28:00.340 If you are not going to be, like, a unified front...

01:28:02.980 Yeah, we can...

01:28:03.500 I think we should come back to it later, though.

01:28:05.160 It's important.

01:28:06.360 So.

01:28:07.440 Okay.

01:28:08.000 We do have to do a couple of chats here.

01:28:11.140 We have to do the fit check for...

01:28:14.060 Let's...

01:28:15.340 Let's do the fit check.

01:28:17.320 You'll do nothing.

01:28:19.280 I got to go pee, Brian.

01:28:20.380 I have to pee, too.

01:28:21.360 I also do, but I'll wait.

01:28:23.660 We'll do that...

01:28:24.420 Stealing the spot.

01:28:25.140 Let's do a little fit check.

01:28:26.280 Everybody, if everyone wants to do a little stand-up, we'll do a little fit check, I guess. 1.00

01:28:29.620 Shit, man. 0.99

01:28:30.420 I can't even see my hair. 1.00

01:28:38.760 Okay.

01:28:40.500 I like your dress, Debra.

01:28:42.760 Thank you.

01:28:43.120 Yeah, it's a nice dress.

01:28:43.940 Yeah, it's bothering you.

01:28:45.040 Okay, fit check completed.

01:28:46.400 Thank you, Flan Life, for the 50 gifted subs.

01:28:49.040 Let me get...

01:28:49.640 Let's see here.

01:28:51.260 We have some soup chats here.

01:28:53.780 Actually, I need to get these done.

01:28:55.160 Okay, we have John Galt.

01:28:57.800 Hide that, Eric.

01:29:00.520 Thank you for the 100, man.

01:29:01.580 Appreciate it.

01:29:01.980 To the conservatives on the panel, why aren't you married with kids?

01:29:04.600 I'm suspicious that a lot of trad conservative influencers are just LARPing while living the

01:29:08.540 same lifestyle as liberals.

01:29:09.900 Would be cool to get Virgin Mary from number 62 back on the show. 0.65

01:29:12.840 Hey, John Galt, thank you for the $100 soup chat.

01:29:16.140 Okay, so why aren't you married with kids to the conservatives? 0.85

01:29:21.900 I mean, I'll answer first, bro.

01:29:23.560 I live here in California, and it is a spiritual wasteland out here, my friend.

01:29:28.280 And here in Santa Barbara, in particular, almost every single attractive young woman is fully 1.00

01:29:34.140 vaccinated, which is a complete deal breaker for me.

01:29:36.380 And then on top of that, they don't believe in Jesus.

01:29:39.220 Why is the camera over there?

01:29:40.640 Okay, there we go.

01:29:41.220 They don't believe in Jesus, right?

01:29:42.740 And I've known for years that I wanted to find my wife, but it's very difficult to find

01:29:46.840 a solid Christian wife in this area who is unvaccinated.

01:29:50.020 So, you know, that's why I'm not married yet.

01:29:52.320 And also on top of that, too, marriage is...

01:29:55.700 Who you marry is the single most important decision.

01:29:58.280 You will make in your entire life.

01:29:59.940 And you have to pick wisely.

01:30:01.300 And a lot of people do not pick wisely.

01:30:03.360 You got to be aligned on values.

01:30:04.880 You got to make sure that they're the kind of person that's going to stick through in

01:30:08.200 thick and thin, you know, and that they're going to be there by your side for the rest

01:30:11.760 of your lives.

01:30:12.280 And finding people like that, especially in today's day and age, it's difficult.

01:30:15.480 You know, a lot of people our age, they lack virtue, right?

01:30:18.620 And they lack really solid values.

01:30:20.360 And when you find somebody like that, you got to hold on to them.

01:30:22.740 So that's why I'm not married yet.

01:30:23.880 And as far as the shots fired, you know, I feel like these LARPer conservatives are 1.00

01:30:30.160 just living liberal lifestyles.

01:30:31.620 Like, bro, I walk the walk.

01:30:33.460 I don't just talk the talk, right?

01:30:34.700 Like, I stopped fornicating years ago because I actually take my walk with Jesus very seriously.

01:30:38.840 So I'm not just LARPing, bro.

01:30:41.460 Yo, AB Check.

01:30:42.380 Thank you for the gifted 20 subs, man.

01:30:44.400 Really appreciate it.

01:30:45.320 Thank you, man.

01:30:45.860 Appreciate it.

01:30:46.760 Do you guys want to answer why you're not married?

01:30:48.300 Billy and I were actually speaking about this on the drive, not being married on the drive

01:30:51.780 here, but what you were just saying that a lot of people rush in to pick somebody and

01:30:55.380 like who you decide to be the father of your children or the person who creates the children

01:31:00.340 for you will be the single most important decision you make in your entire life.

01:31:04.140 That person, you're going to spend like, what, 50,000 meals with them.

01:31:07.020 I saw something like you eat so many meals with your significant other.

01:31:09.820 Make sure it's someone you actually like.

01:31:11.680 But I also would totally not encourage people to just rush in because they want to be in a

01:31:16.260 relationship.

01:31:16.780 They want to get married and have kids.

01:31:17.780 It is so important to wait until you find that person that is the person that God intended

01:31:23.100 for you because a broken home is the worst thing that you can have for children and just

01:31:28.140 society at large.

01:31:29.120 So you need to do everything in your power.

01:31:31.400 And I also have a large problem with them allowing divorce just because you fell out of

01:31:35.440 love.

01:31:35.840 That's like a newer thing with divorce.

01:31:37.820 And I think that creates so much room for people to just test things out.

01:31:41.020 Let's get married, not take it seriously.

01:31:42.700 But like in my eyes, marriage is a union between a man and a woman under God's eyes.

01:31:46.740 And you should take that extremely seriously and don't play games with it.

01:31:50.480 I completely agree.

01:31:52.520 I feel like it just like you when you know, you know, you have to find the right person.

01:31:56.100 That's exactly why you're not like married yet.

01:31:58.040 And that's completely fine.

01:31:59.160 Like God's going to bring you the right person like at any time in your life.

01:32:03.260 Like it could be now or later.

01:32:04.760 Like when I found my boyfriend, I would say like God brought me him for a reason.

01:32:10.500 I wasn't ready.

01:32:11.380 Like I wasn't completely ready to have a relationship.

01:32:13.640 In fact, when I met my current boyfriend, I had a different boyfriend at the time.

01:32:19.660 And I feel like.

01:32:21.320 Did you rank up with that boyfriend in favor of this boyfriend?

01:32:23.780 Not in favor of him.

01:32:25.040 No.

01:32:25.320 But just because things didn't work out.

01:32:27.180 For our own personal things.

01:32:27.820 That's what my grandma says.

01:32:28.940 Don't let your boyfriend stop you from meeting your husband.

01:32:31.080 Ooh.

01:32:31.440 You love that.

01:32:32.060 But respectfully, don't cheat on people.

01:32:35.040 That's messed up.

01:32:36.100 Don't hurt people.

01:32:37.100 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0.64

01:32:38.460 What the frick?

01:32:39.540 Okay. 0.89

01:32:39.780 I love that. 0.99

01:32:40.300 Oh shit. 0.99

01:32:40.920 Did we miss one? 1.00

01:32:43.060 Hold on guys.

01:32:44.320 I just, if I may add one thing too.

01:32:46.700 What's up?

01:32:47.120 To what Debra was saying.

01:32:47.900 Like I came from a broken home.

01:32:49.520 And like there's a lot of people out there who think like, yes, I want to spend the rest

01:32:54.040 of my life with this person.

01:32:55.200 But they'll ignore like minor signs that there could be serious red flags.

01:33:00.460 And then things fall apart down the line.

01:33:01.940 Like it takes time to find the person that you're actually meant to spend the rest of

01:33:05.800 your life with, you know?

01:33:06.560 And it's not something that you should just rush into.

01:33:08.640 Yeah.

01:33:09.140 And again, here in California, it's freaking hard to find girls with really solid values.

01:33:13.620 I'm from Manhattan.

01:33:14.380 I have the same struggle finding a conservative there.

01:33:16.580 Like I make one comment.

01:33:18.080 They're like, whoa, whoa.

01:33:19.160 I'm like, that's just the beginning of it.

01:33:20.800 Yeah.

01:33:21.380 Yeah.

01:33:21.600 It gets a lot worse.

01:33:23.020 Yeah.

01:33:24.140 Do you want to move on?

01:33:25.380 Yep.

01:33:26.100 We have Rippy here.

01:33:27.680 Thank you for the hundred.

01:33:28.300 Hey, everyone.

01:33:31.300 Good to be back again.

01:33:32.400 Love supporting this platform where we can talk these topics.

01:33:35.660 One question.

01:33:36.500 What's everyone's thoughts on a partner who is very much into Second Amendment?

01:33:40.720 Say he, she owns five plus firearms, date or eliminate.

01:33:44.660 By the way, Flan Life, thank you for the big gifted 10 memberships, man.

01:33:49.160 Really appreciate all your support tonight.

01:33:51.200 Really appreciate it.

01:33:52.360 So, yeah, we have, let me pull that back up, though.

01:33:57.180 So, Rippy, so, question is, what's everybody's thoughts on a partner who is into the Second Amendment who owns five plus firearms?

01:34:06.440 Would you guys date them or is that a red flag?

01:34:08.440 I mean, five plus, I would have no problem Second Amendment or owning guns.

01:34:15.560 That's not a problem.

01:34:16.200 I just won't, I don't want to date someone who's like, I'm ready for the end of the world to end so I can just, you know, conquer with all my weapons and all that stuff.

01:34:24.260 Like, those people seem like a little bit of extremist to me where I'm like, like, what is, yeah, like, these get five plus, like, you know, I don't know, AR or 15 or whatever they can own legally here.

01:34:32.380 I don't know all the rules.

01:34:33.500 Yeah, like, that's like, okay, but at least like a few handguns and then a couple of bigger ones.

01:34:37.560 Sure, you're trying to protect the home.

01:34:38.880 But if it seems like an obsession, that worries me because I've seen a correlation between people who are obsessed with guns in that way and multiple red flags as well.

01:34:49.200 I would disagree with that correlation, but I understand your perspective.

01:34:52.400 What about you?

01:34:54.380 Into the mic, please.

01:34:56.160 Honestly?

01:34:57.640 Hi, co-host.

01:34:58.880 I don't mean to lower this.

01:35:01.020 I mean, I don't think I would care, but if it's like a weird.

01:35:03.820 You can't lower it.

01:35:04.920 Are you trying to lower it?

01:35:06.700 No.

01:35:07.440 What were you trying to do?

01:35:08.380 I was, I was, but then you said, well, then I heard that, so now I'm not.

01:35:11.220 It doesn't go lower.

01:35:12.060 Thank you.

01:35:13.500 I just think when people, like, make guns, their whole personality is just like a red flag, so I'm just like, whatever, bye.

01:35:19.260 We're talking.

01:35:19.780 But, I mean, if you have, like, five guns for protection, like.

01:35:22.680 Cool.

01:35:25.120 I think five plus is a little excessive, but I'm going to have to agree with what both of you guys said.

01:35:34.120 I would date.

01:35:34.960 I don't mind as long as you do the right things with them.

01:35:38.380 Based.

01:35:39.360 Sorry, what was the question?

01:35:40.380 The question is, if you're talking to somebody who is into the Second Amendment, they have, like, five plus firearms.

01:35:46.160 Is that, like, a green flag or a red flag?

01:35:47.380 That's a green flag.

01:35:48.200 Green flag.

01:35:48.580 Yeah, I want to be protected.

01:35:49.620 Yep.

01:35:50.180 Make it six and get me a pink one. 0.95

01:35:52.580 Based.

01:35:53.120 How, I mean, are they going to be?

01:35:54.380 All six guns in their hands?

01:35:57.300 Like, what is the need for?

01:35:58.360 I have a quick question for everyone on the panel that just answered.

01:36:01.060 How, as women, when you go out and you're out at night and you're with your girls, right? 0.98

01:36:04.780 Like, you feel protected when you're in the group because you're in a group.

01:36:08.900 But, like, what do you actually have to defend yourself?

01:36:12.240 Do you have pepper spray?

01:36:13.220 Is everyone carrying, like, a pocket knife?

01:36:13.900 Yeah.

01:36:13.920 I don't go out without my work security or my boyfriend.

01:36:16.780 I have a pepper spray.

01:36:17.660 Nice.

01:36:18.520 You don't have anything?

01:36:19.480 I'm never out without, usually, security or my boyfriend.

01:36:22.000 Yeah, I would buy that, too.

01:36:23.060 But I do have a knife in my bag.

01:36:24.700 Nice.

01:36:24.840 I can't own a gun yet.

01:36:25.480 I was going to say, what if in the off chance you just happen to be alone?

01:36:28.340 Yeah, I have a knife.

01:36:29.200 I always carry my bar key, which has a very pointy end to it.

01:36:32.360 So, yeah.

01:36:33.020 But I'm usually with protection.

01:36:34.480 I would just push back because there's a large audience here.

01:36:38.040 I would push back on the idea that it's a red flag if somebody has a lot of firearms.

01:36:41.560 I feel like in, like, liberals' minds, they often correlate that with, like, oh, this person might be, like, potentially mentally unhinged.

01:36:47.420 They're, like, really focused on the concept of violence.

01:36:50.380 Almost all of the gun owners that I know that have a lot of guns are, like, literally, like, the most responsible, squared-away people I have ever met in my life.

01:36:58.020 Who I would trust with a firearm more than, like, almost anybody else I know.

01:37:02.540 Right?

01:37:02.800 Like, they're typically very, very responsible, sober-minded people. 0.99

01:37:07.340 There's definitely that side, but I think it's ignorant. 0.96

01:37:09.660 Which is the majority. 0.97

01:37:10.320 It's the majority of people.

01:37:11.620 I think it's ignorant to ignore the side of America that we've gotten to now, especially since all these mass shootings we've had.

01:37:16.780 People are now buying firearms en masse.

01:37:19.340 So it's changing from that being the majority to people who feel like they need guns to protect themselves who are starting to get a little unhinged because they are so scared of people that they're, like, I need to have my gun and I need to have this.

01:37:31.340 When it's, I do agree that that used to be maybe be the majority, but, like, even since the last Nashville one, we've seen a spike.

01:37:36.960 Like, we've seen a spike in all of gun sales.

01:37:39.840 We've seen people who are buying guns that are not responsible gun owners who now own multiple guns because they're scared of, you know, someone coming in and just starting this thing.

01:37:49.400 All right, we're moving on from this conversation.

01:37:51.300 Eric, pull up the Twitch.

01:37:52.840 What?

01:37:53.240 Do you have, is there, is there an issue with me wanting to move on the conversation?

01:37:56.800 This is my show.

01:37:57.940 No.

01:37:58.920 You're saying what?

01:37:59.900 What?

01:38:00.380 Like.

01:38:00.680 I thought it was interesting because I'm curious if anyone's actually ever, if everyone here is actually fired.

01:38:05.800 Do you have an issue with me moving on the show?

01:38:07.740 No.

01:38:09.380 All right, so let's move on.

01:38:11.280 Okay, let me address the, the Dylan thing.

01:38:13.580 Is it, like, a terms of service thing?

01:38:19.340 Matt Walsh has just been demonetized on YouTube.

01:38:22.880 Uh-huh.

01:38:23.360 Mm-hmm.

01:38:24.000 People are getting their videos removed.

01:38:26.180 They're getting copyright strikes.

01:38:28.180 This is my show.

01:38:30.680 So, Chase, if I say, hey, we're not talking about that.

01:38:36.640 This is my show.

01:38:38.140 You listen to what I say, and we're going to move on.

01:38:41.360 Now, unless you're prepared to financially support me, if I say I want to move on, we're moving on.

01:38:48.320 Okay?

01:38:49.200 If YouTube didn't have such a hardcore stance on this, we could talk about it.

01:38:54.120 But if I say we're moving on, we have to move on.

01:38:58.080 This is my show.

01:38:59.220 That's fine with me.

01:38:59.340 You're a guest in my, on my platform.

01:39:03.200 Please respect it.

01:39:04.520 That's fine with me.

01:39:05.160 Both of you guys.

01:39:05.820 That's fine with me.

01:39:06.540 Yes, sir.

01:39:06.920 I just want to say for the record, Brian, the part that I supported of what he was saying was the positive things about femininity and what makes good womanhood.

01:39:15.820 That was the part that I was loving him riffing on.

01:39:18.640 That's fine.

01:39:19.340 You can agree with him, but you can agree with him, but this is my show.

01:39:22.740 I'm trying to protect my platform.

01:39:24.280 That's fine.

01:39:24.380 And if I say let's move on and then you start egging him on saying, no, keep going, keep going, he's going to listen to you and he continued talking about it. 0.98

01:39:36.240 So I just need to be very careful because Matt Walsh just got canceled talking about this very fucking subject. 0.97

01:39:43.620 Okay. 0.97

01:39:44.140 It's a dating podcast, guys.

01:39:45.680 It's, we can move on.

01:39:47.920 I apologize for not listening to you immediately, Brian.

01:39:50.600 It was just not something I was aware of.

01:39:52.360 That demonetization was on the table.

01:39:54.240 It's fine.

01:39:54.580 We'll move on.

01:39:55.240 Who's Matt Walsh?

01:39:56.720 Conservative, conservative commentator.

01:39:58.480 Like, some of the, you guys are in the chat are also criticizing me.

01:40:04.200 Oh, free speech.

01:40:04.980 Guys, got to be careful.

01:40:06.520 We're on YouTube.

01:40:07.280 Okay.

01:40:07.720 Brian is running a business and he does need to protect it.

01:40:10.560 Let's talk about ovulation.

01:40:13.000 Anyone?

01:40:14.480 Eric, pull up the Twitch.

01:40:15.820 I have an idea. 0.95

01:40:16.280 I'm measuring themselves and watching porn. 0.89

01:40:18.060 Depends on where Brian wants to take the conversation.

01:40:19.740 Let's talk about the porn addiction in this country.

01:40:21.800 Hold on, hold on, hold on.

01:40:22.900 Brian, where do you want to take it?

01:40:23.900 So, let's see.

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01:41:34.260 Yeah, guys.

01:41:35.020 Just, like, got to be careful on YouTube, you know.

01:41:39.520 So, yeah.

01:41:40.160 Do you want to do super chats?

01:41:42.420 We're all caught up on super chats.

01:41:46.040 Let me just double check here.

01:41:48.540 Did we do this one?

01:41:50.900 No.

01:41:51.200 Billy, you want to read this one?

01:41:54.140 Aw, I know who he is.

01:41:55.920 Billy Ray, I love your content and love the fact that you've gone full throttle in your views.

01:41:59.500 I know you were a bit sheepish in the cameo you sent me last year when I inquired about Brett Cooper,

01:42:03.880 but you really come into your own hope to one day go on a double date in Florida.

01:42:08.800 Aw.

01:42:09.660 Thank you, John.

01:42:11.880 All right.

01:42:12.540 He is true.

01:42:12.820 I was very scared to talk about my views, so I was very vanilla when I first started social media.

01:42:17.860 Okay, and then we have a comment here, but I wasn't able to pull it up.

01:42:21.800 Stifler asked, ask everyone to rate themselves on a scale of one to ten.

01:42:27.660 So let's do that.

01:42:28.700 Ten.

01:42:30.400 Kiko, okay, we'll start with you.

01:42:31.920 Go ahead.

01:42:32.340 Ten. 1.00

01:42:33.600 A fat fucking ten. 1.00

01:42:36.420 A fat fucking ten? 1.00

01:42:38.240 I mean, I'm just saying what everybody in the comments is going to say. 1.00

01:42:42.620 Be like, oh, yeah, she's a fat fucking one. 1.00

01:42:45.000 Like, great. 1.00

01:42:46.920 Is there a comma somewhere in that statement?

01:42:49.880 Honestly, I don't know.

01:42:53.020 I mean, I don't know.

01:42:55.180 What was said was said.

01:42:56.500 Okay.

01:42:57.120 Yeah.

01:42:58.020 I said what I said, and I meant what I said.

01:43:00.960 Okay.

01:43:01.560 Period.

01:43:02.880 On a scale of one to ten.

01:43:06.200 Ten.

01:43:07.560 Were you a ten last time?

01:43:09.500 Yeah, I was a ten last time.

01:43:11.860 Billy Ray.

01:43:14.580 We should have waited until Debra was back, but.

01:43:17.540 We'll come back to her.

01:43:18.860 I feel like I'm a 6.7. 1.00

01:43:21.580 Dude, why the fuck would you ever say something like that? 0.99

01:43:24.560 Physically or overall? 0.99

01:43:26.460 Oh, I'm factoring everything in.

01:43:28.420 Really?

01:43:29.020 Yeah.

01:43:29.280 With everything factored in?

01:43:31.360 You know, if I were to rate it, baby.

01:43:32.920 Hold on.

01:43:33.260 Hold on.

01:43:33.480 Sorry.

01:43:34.820 Thank you, Martin.

01:43:35.520 Debra, no long-term commitment, but we can make an agreement.

01:43:39.200 She's in the bathroom.

01:43:39.960 You'll sign ANDA, grow your hair out a bit, convert away from Judaism. 0.94

01:43:45.440 I'll coach you to speak a little less.

01:43:47.300 She's not even here.

01:43:48.000 Imagine her hearing this in the bathroom.

01:43:49.780 And you and my girlfriend can compete for my affections. 1.00

01:43:54.180 Yo, Marquavius, I'll trigger it again once she's back, so don't worry about that.

01:44:00.140 Thank you, though.

01:44:00.880 Go ahead, Debra. 0.99

01:44:01.720 Sorry.

01:44:02.140 Go ahead.

01:44:02.860 Go ahead, Debra. 0.99

01:44:05.560 What do you feel like you could improve on?

01:44:07.460 Toasty, I know you ain't talking.

01:44:08.020 To bring you from a 6.7 to like an 8 or a 9?

01:44:10.260 I feel like my fitness is lacking.

01:44:12.520 Okay.

01:44:15.600 Okay, one point.

01:44:16.600 Fitness is lacking?

01:44:17.380 No, my appearance, I'm not a 10.

01:44:18.820 Fitness is lacking?

01:44:20.340 I disagree with the ratings people.

01:44:22.220 Into the mic.

01:44:22.680 I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

01:44:23.700 I disagree with the ratings people have given themselves.

01:44:25.580 Do you know where the rating scale comes from? 1.00

01:44:28.300 It's supposed to be if you line up 10 random men and you ask them, would you fuck her? 1.00

01:44:33.680 And they're going to say yes or no. 1.00

01:44:34.580 That's the original thing we're getting from.

01:44:35.420 Nope.

01:44:36.220 That's not how that works.

01:44:37.640 Well, now I'm being...

01:44:38.820 The 10 rating scale.

01:44:39.840 Educate me where it came from.

01:44:40.760 If you know, tell me, tell me.

01:44:42.660 Well, just think about it intuitively.

01:44:44.260 If a 10 is like a perfect woman, like absolutely maxed out attractiveness. 0.74

01:44:47.680 10 is supposed to be on physical attraction only.

01:44:51.540 We're not supposed to talk about personality.

01:44:52.660 So if we're talking physical attraction, yeah.

01:44:53.580 If we're talking just physical attraction, 10 is like the most attractive woman you could 0.99

01:44:57.400 possibly imagine.

01:44:58.460 Yes, it's 10 out of 10 for a reason because you're lining up 10 and you're counting how

01:45:01.960 many points are you getting.

01:45:03.400 That's why it's...

01:45:03.920 What do you mean you're lining up 10?

01:45:05.200 Where does lining up 10 women come into this? 1.00

01:45:06.980 No, I'm saying 10 men.

01:45:08.180 Like we're opposite gender of you. 0.71

01:45:09.520 I mean, opposite gender of you. 1.00

01:45:10.820 You're supposed to be...

01:45:11.700 It's...

01:45:12.660 The point is...

01:45:13.520 Are you tracking with this?

01:45:15.080 Debra, you guys...

01:45:15.740 Where did it come from then?

01:45:16.760 Tell me.

01:45:17.140 Tell me where it came from.

01:45:17.940 It's just...

01:45:18.540 It's like, okay, what are you...

01:45:20.360 Like if you're a five, then you're like very like average.

01:45:24.180 Yes.

01:45:24.320 If you're like an eight... 0.99

01:45:24.960 Because five out of 10 people would be with you.

01:45:27.440 No, that's not what it is.

01:45:29.460 No, I'm just saying...

01:45:30.080 It's not how many people would be with you.

01:45:31.720 It's not how many people would be with you.

01:45:33.420 It's like 10 is physical perfection.

01:45:36.320 Yes.

01:45:37.040 I understand that.

01:45:37.800 I'm not disagreeing with that.

01:45:38.620 Not because 10 guys would sleep with you.

01:45:40.620 Like you could have a girl who's like a seven and 10 guys would all sleep with her. 1.00

01:45:44.520 But that doesn't mean that she's a 10.

01:45:46.180 Yeah.

01:45:46.440 I didn't factor in who would sleep with me in my rating.

01:45:51.480 We're talking off of attractiveness.

01:45:53.480 It's not about how many men would sleep with you.

01:45:55.020 Okay.

01:45:55.360 Thank you.

01:45:55.900 We're talking about attractiveness.

01:45:57.920 You truly believe on a skill base that you're a 6.9.

01:46:02.020 She said 6.7.

01:46:03.140 6.7.

01:46:03.740 That honestly would make you a 6 in my eyes because it's your confidence level.

01:46:10.940 You're down on yourself.

01:46:11.980 You just said it's purely based on physical attraction.

01:46:14.500 I know.

01:46:14.840 You're saying your humility brings her down? 1.00

01:46:16.400 It's a fucking joke. 1.00

01:46:17.160 Hold on, guys. 1.00

01:46:17.520 It was a joke.

01:46:18.180 Ad block is...

01:46:19.280 You got to close that.

01:46:20.960 I was talking to her.

01:46:21.860 F11.

01:46:22.820 Yeah, we're good.

01:46:23.380 We're good.

01:46:23.700 Okay.

01:46:24.300 No, compared to all of the women in the world, I'm rating myself on that scale.

01:46:29.840 Me compared to every woman in the world. 0.92

01:46:32.600 I feel like it would be the same if you said you're a perfect 10, that people are always

01:46:35.820 going to hate.

01:46:36.360 I think it's...

01:46:36.820 You may as well just go with what you truly believe.

01:46:38.560 Kiko, going back to this whole, if you lined up 10 people and if they all wanted to sleep

01:46:43.660 with you, that makes you a 10.

01:46:45.040 Okay.

01:46:45.440 So they all found you attractive.

01:46:46.600 I was just trying to...

01:46:48.140 I was just going...

01:46:48.780 Yeah, but that's a binary.

01:46:50.080 Yes or no.

01:46:50.900 Are they attractive?

01:46:51.960 However, there's degrees to attractiveness.

01:46:54.440 Exactly.

01:46:54.780 That's why it's supposed to be like 10 random people, like maybe from all over the world,

01:46:57.880 like not just 10 people from San Francisco or just 10 people from LA.

01:47:00.780 That's the way to...

01:47:01.200 I've never heard this.

01:47:01.740 Yeah, I've never heard that.

01:47:02.520 Look it up.

01:47:02.900 That's not...

01:47:03.300 Look it up.

01:47:03.520 Okay.

01:47:03.860 Well, that's not what we mean.

01:47:06.280 The whole where you look up on anything else, being if you use Axel, Yahoo, Dottles...

01:47:09.520 Okay.

01:47:09.900 No.

01:47:10.020 It's like this.

01:47:11.140 It's degrees.

01:47:12.120 It's the hottest possible Victoria's Secret model.

01:47:15.140 Just physical...

01:47:15.900 Hold on.

01:47:16.400 Just physical perfection is a 10.

01:47:18.460 How might you compare yourself to her?

01:47:20.820 Do you think...

01:47:21.260 10.

01:47:21.520 Do you think you're like the most attractive specimen that's ever walked this earth?

01:47:25.580 I wouldn't say there's...

01:47:26.620 On par.

01:47:26.980 Is there not people who are...

01:47:27.640 On par with the most attractive specimens that have ever walked this earth?

01:47:30.240 Can I answer?

01:47:30.560 We give you permission.

01:47:31.520 Thank you. 1.00

01:47:31.860 Oh, fuck. 1.00

01:47:32.040 I mean, he keeps shooting things. 1.00

01:47:35.740 I mean, it hasn't really let me respond.

01:47:37.360 Sorry.

01:47:37.480 Just go.

01:47:37.780 Go ahead.

01:47:38.080 Go ahead.

01:47:39.360 Yes, but that's saying that there's only one 10 in the world.

01:47:42.160 There's not only one 10.

01:47:43.240 There's multiple 10s in the world. 0.61

01:47:44.300 That's not...

01:47:44.820 That's not what I'm saying.

01:47:45.840 Yeah.

01:47:46.140 I'm saying yes.

01:47:47.580 The TikTok has gone into your brain, Kiko. 0.99

01:47:49.540 I don't use TikTok, really.

01:47:50.740 You have a TikTok called RageQuickKiko. 0.51

01:47:52.520 I know, but I just made that.

01:47:53.880 I have like 900 followers.

01:47:55.460 Yeah, you're famous.

01:47:55.820 There's 900 followers getting into my head.

01:47:57.320 You're famous, Kiko.

01:47:58.540 Thank you, Brian.

01:47:59.600 Okay.

01:48:00.340 I've never heard that.

01:48:01.760 I wish you had explained that before, but that's not how you define what a 10 is.

01:48:05.340 That's it right there.

01:48:06.220 Sean Mays.

01:48:07.060 Thank you.

01:48:07.460 10.

01:48:07.580 Perfect.

01:48:07.740 Thank you.

01:48:08.000 Nine, very beautiful.

01:48:08.940 Eight, beautiful.

01:48:09.540 Seven, very pretty.

01:48:10.600 Soch, handsome.

01:48:11.260 Six, pretty handsome.

01:48:12.940 Five, average.

01:48:13.600 Four, below average.

01:48:14.440 Three, unattractive.

01:48:15.140 Two, very unattractive. 0.97

01:48:16.200 One, hideous.

01:48:17.740 Rate accordingly.

01:48:18.560 Hashtag, Christ is Lord.

01:48:20.000 Let's go.

01:48:20.080 10.

01:48:22.340 So you think you're like physical professional?

01:48:23.340 Bill, you're not a 6.7.

01:48:25.120 All things considered.

01:48:25.560 Kiko, you're a 10 in delusion. 0.59

01:48:28.360 You don't want me to tell what you are, Brian.

01:48:29.920 That's right.

01:48:30.560 Well, I don't think I'm a 10.

01:48:31.980 I know that.

01:48:32.620 I would hope not, but that's not what I'm saying.

01:48:34.020 I mean, overall, you don't want me to tell what you are.

01:48:35.900 So I heard I got a super chat while I was gone.

01:48:39.480 Before we get to that.

01:48:40.540 Let's get back to my chat.

01:48:41.560 Before we get to that.

01:48:42.480 I want it to be about me.

01:48:43.180 We were rating.

01:48:43.760 No, we are.

01:48:44.360 Yeah, yeah.

01:48:44.700 We're going to make it about you.

01:48:45.680 We were rating ourselves on physical attractiveness.

01:48:47.360 Oh, okay.

01:48:47.540 What would you give yourself out of 10?

01:48:49.820 Oh, I don't know if I want it to be about me anymore.

01:48:52.520 Just answer honestly.

01:48:54.100 Purely physical attractiveness.

01:48:55.560 Purely physical?

01:48:56.220 Almost all of them on that side gave themselves 10s.

01:48:59.600 Yeah, I'd say like 8.8.

01:49:02.360 Because there's always more beautiful people in the world, but I know.

01:49:04.840 Is that a Hitler reference?

01:49:07.320 Are you asking me that because I'm Jewish? 1.00

01:49:08.580 Because fuck you. 1.00

01:49:10.120 No, but 8.8. 1.00

01:49:13.240 All right.

01:49:14.360 818 is Kendall Jenner's horrible tequila.

01:49:16.800 Bro, do you think a Jew is making a Hitler reference on your show?

01:49:19.600 Yeah, seriously.

01:49:20.540 I told you that before I sat down.

01:49:22.420 Jews get the pass to make the Hitler joke. 0.91

01:49:24.500 But we don't.

01:49:24.880 Then why are you so offended?

01:49:28.080 You got your third Jewish or something?

01:49:30.060 If she has the pass, why are you so offended?

01:49:31.440 I'm not offended.

01:49:32.520 What do you mean?

01:49:33.120 You sounded pretty offended.

01:49:34.220 Is that a Hitler reference?

01:49:35.780 No, I wasn't offended.

01:49:36.860 Okay.

01:49:37.260 Why was I?

01:49:37.760 Were you excited?

01:49:38.940 No, I was just, I was making a joke.

01:49:40.520 Okay.

01:49:41.160 It was a joke.

01:49:41.680 8.8. 1.00

01:49:42.140 God damn. 0.99

01:49:43.200 I don't know. 0.99

01:49:43.860 I think there is an objective attractiveness for people.

01:49:47.280 And I think a lot of that is like the beauty standard.

01:49:50.100 Actually, because I wasn't here for the beginning part.

01:49:52.240 A lot of it comes from the golden ratio.

01:49:53.700 People whose face is the golden ratio and they're symmetrical.

01:49:56.420 That is what attractiveness is.

01:49:57.860 That's why when we see things, we're like, that's aesthetic.

01:49:59.720 It's aesthetic to everyone because there's certain things that are pleasing to the eye,

01:50:03.820 like having matching face, a strong jawline, things that, that's what makes things beautiful.

01:50:07.840 Golden ratio goes back to like ancient days.

01:50:10.440 Yep.

01:50:10.560 So I think in that sense, um, I have some of those things, but also like, I don't know

01:50:17.140 who I could name as a perfect 10 because for me, at least it's hard with looks because I

01:50:21.620 think person, like if you're an ugly person, you could be so hot, but I will see you as

01:50:25.060 a one because if you're a bad person, it's hard. 0.60

01:50:27.860 That's why I like what the person who's like, when you open, when someone opens their mouth,

01:50:30.680 they drop 10 notches.

01:50:31.860 I'm like, I am a lot about who you are on the inside also determines how I feel about

01:50:36.600 you on the outside.

01:50:37.780 Yes, this is very true.

01:50:38.880 Also respect for being an aesthetics respecter and the golden ratio reference.

01:50:43.440 That is, that is what underlies true beauty.

01:50:46.000 Beauty is objective in my opinion.

01:50:47.120 That's how they built all the beautiful ancient ruins by using that ratio.

01:50:50.360 So if it's still beautiful nowadays, I think it will stand the test of time and the way

01:50:54.520 body positivity will not.

01:50:55.840 Are any girls, Chase, are any girls at this table at 10?

01:50:59.380 No.

01:51:00.760 Okay.

01:51:01.180 What do you have to say about that?

01:51:02.520 I thought we were rating ourselves factoring.

01:51:05.220 Looks.

01:51:05.460 It's just looks.

01:51:06.500 Wow.

01:51:07.500 I feel like I'd have a different answer if we were just saying just looks.

01:51:11.100 That was the question.

01:51:14.060 See, and I'm the opposite.

01:51:14.880 I don't have a different answer if it was overall.

01:51:16.380 When they asked like rate yourself out of 10, I wasn't thinking like just looks, just

01:51:20.220 like yourself, like as a person.

01:51:21.780 Yeah, no, you're just your physical appearance.

01:51:23.840 Do you want me to re-answer?

01:51:26.120 Yeah.

01:51:27.200 I would say like a seven.

01:51:28.740 Oh, okay.

01:51:29.720 All right.

01:51:30.700 What about for you?

01:51:31.540 Still 10?

01:51:33.300 Not just a 10, a fat effing 10. 0.94

01:51:35.020 Hey, she's a baddie all around. 1.00

01:51:36.460 Baddies are, it's a full-time job.

01:51:38.660 Certified.

01:51:39.740 Certified. 0.99

01:51:40.140 I still think I'm a fucking certified baddie 10, whatever. 0.97

01:51:43.800 But like, I'm also not going to come for anybody who has a preference. 0.98

01:51:46.640 Like, it is what it is.

01:51:48.700 Like, in some people's eyes, I'm probably like a one. 0.99

01:51:51.400 Like, in some people, I'm a fat fucking 10. 0.99

01:51:56.080 So, I don't know. 0.99

01:51:57.380 I mean, I'm still a fucking 10. 0.98

01:51:58.120 Is there a comma in that sentence? 0.99

01:52:01.200 Okay.

01:52:01.720 I feel like no one would date someone they didn't think was a, or at least marry someone

01:52:05.060 that they didn't think was a 10.

01:52:06.540 Because like, why would you want to be with someone that you're like, I could find hotter.

01:52:08.680 But don't you think it is delusional to consider yourself a 10?

01:52:16.240 For those of you who rated yourselves a 10.

01:52:18.420 No.

01:52:18.820 No.

01:52:19.100 Whether in appearance or total package.

01:52:21.360 No.

01:52:21.620 I don't think it's like thinking that you're the perfect person, but just being like confident.

01:52:26.300 Dude, any person who says, I am a 10, is basically saying, I have zero room for improvement.

01:52:33.120 I'm perfect the way that I am.

01:52:34.100 That's not what I said.

01:52:34.860 I said, no.

01:52:35.420 10 is perfect.

01:52:35.820 That's what I hear, though.

01:52:37.080 Okay.

01:52:37.360 That's what I hear.

01:52:38.320 And I think it's delusional.

01:52:40.420 But this is what he just, when she said that, I clarified if we would ask about our overall

01:52:44.540 personality person as we are as a whole, I wouldn't give myself as a 10.

01:52:47.920 But as a traction level, yeah, I'm pretty, I'm peak athleticism.

01:52:52.680 I'm a pretty symmetric face.

01:52:54.120 I would give myself a 10 right now.

01:52:55.520 I'm not.

01:52:56.260 Your peak athleticism?

01:52:57.820 My, sorry, peak.

01:52:59.220 What's your 40-yard dash?

01:53:00.520 Yeah, what's your 40-yard dash?

01:53:01.300 How many pull-ups can you do?

01:53:02.360 How would you word it better, Sam?

01:53:03.960 Peak fitness.

01:53:04.560 I'm almost at my peak fitness.

01:53:06.020 Not yet.

01:53:06.580 I would say so.

01:53:07.780 Yeah, so I would give myself a 10 in that way.

01:53:10.100 I'm not improving, because you're just saying, oh, you're saying you can't be better.

01:53:13.120 Yeah, I can improve maybe my personality things about me.

01:53:15.480 But as far as looks-wise, there's not much improvement that's happening unless I get some

01:53:19.600 outside help.

01:53:21.080 Are you talking about plastic surgery?

01:53:23.340 I would not get plastic surgery.

01:53:25.140 I think I've only gotten hotter with time.

01:53:26.740 I'm just going to be honest.

01:53:27.580 You think I would get plastic surgery, Brian?

01:53:28.800 Wait, Brian, you think I would get plastic surgery?

01:53:29.960 Aging like fine wine.

01:53:31.000 What can I say?

01:53:31.580 You think I would get plastic surgery?

01:53:32.760 What would I change?

01:53:33.440 What would I change?

01:53:34.520 I think we should move on.

01:53:35.840 I think we should move on.

01:53:36.560 I think we should do my super chat.

01:53:37.780 I think we should do my super chat.

01:53:38.980 Let's read Debra's super chat. 0.97

01:53:40.800 I want to know, Sam, what would you rate yourself physically out of 10?

01:53:43.660 Physically out of 10, because I'm like 5'8", I'm like a 5.

01:53:47.700 I think I have a handsome face.

01:53:49.160 It's like a 7.

01:53:50.380 But because I'm so sure I should just join the circus, I'm like a 5.

01:53:54.060 However, what would you do in the circus?

01:53:59.320 Again, if I was a woman and be a bearded woman.

01:54:02.200 Yeah, but Sam, you're physically fit, right?

01:54:04.820 You're like super physically fit, so doesn't that boost you up a bit?

01:54:08.680 You mean like in terms of physical attractiveness?

01:54:10.800 Yeah. 0.94

01:54:11.200 Not only is he physically fit, but he's a stone-cold killer, bro.

01:54:14.400 You should see him on the jiu-jitsu mat.

01:54:15.340 Are you a black belt?

01:54:16.120 Honestly, I'm not a black belt, but I'm going to be subbing some black belts this weekend.

01:54:20.540 Let's go.

01:54:21.740 Let's go.

01:54:23.180 But no, yeah, I would say, okay, physically, I would say more like a 6.

01:54:29.000 But no, you don't agree, Kiko?

01:54:30.900 What am I on a 10?

01:54:31.880 No, I'm not going to say that.

01:54:33.720 I just think it's terrible to say that about yourself.

01:54:35.420 I would never want to date a man who's not on a platform and called himself.

01:54:38.580 Yeah, it's just humility.

01:54:39.860 What does your boyfriend rate himself?

01:54:40.760 Well, I'm not finished.

01:54:41.980 I don't know.

01:54:42.600 He'd probably rate himself a 10, and I know he's a 10. 0.99

01:54:44.460 He's fine as fuck. 0.99

01:54:44.900 Can you text him? 1.00

01:54:45.520 Text him and then go ahead.

01:54:46.820 I would say all things considered, because we're just doing physical attractiveness,

01:54:49.920 but I don't want to do that, because as a man, you provide value.

01:54:52.680 There's so much more to a man's personality or to a man than just how he is.

01:54:57.780 I mean, I've heard from women that depending on a man's personality, his physical frame

01:55:04.180 literally changes for them when he owns who he is and when he brings the right energy.

01:55:08.920 So in that sense, I would say an eight, because I'm not yet where I want to be in life, but

01:55:13.880 I'm getting there.

01:55:15.000 I totally agree, and that's something that I don't know if it's just like I'm the only

01:55:18.620 person in the history of the world to ever feel this way.

01:55:20.540 It's probably unlikely, but I have not met any other people really close to me that have

01:55:24.980 had this same experience.

01:55:26.340 It's very rare for me to find a guy and be like, he's so hot, like just off the cusp,

01:55:31.780 seeing him like across the room and be like, wow, that guy is like a perfect 10.

01:55:35.420 I think that's half that just people are very ugly these days because they don't take care

01:55:39.240 of themselves, but also I definitely in somebody that like the more I am attracted to somebody's

01:55:43.880 personality, the hotter they look to me and someone who, if I just looked at them and I

01:55:47.860 was like, oh, there are seven.

01:55:48.960 If I started talking to them and found out that they were like a really great man of God,

01:55:53.300 strong personality, very masculine, I'd be like, wow, in my eyes, he's a 10.

01:55:56.880 And I feel like everyone should feel that way about their partner.

01:55:59.200 They may have the objective looks, but when you get to know them, their total person is

01:56:03.820 a 10.

01:56:04.360 Base.

01:56:04.680 And that's what I was going to say to you when you said like, why would you want to

01:56:07.600 date someone that's not physically a 10?

01:56:09.560 And it's like, well, all things considered, you have to look at their values and you have

01:56:13.240 to look at everything else.

01:56:14.140 Like, ideally, you're not going to date anyone below like an eight and you're going to be

01:56:18.320 at that point, you're like, you're really attracted to someone who's an eight.

01:56:21.100 And then working on that, you can be even more attracted to them based on how their personality

01:56:25.620 is and how they, how you compliment the combination.

01:56:28.120 But let me, let me ask you something.

01:56:29.580 When you look at a guy and this is for anyone can answer.

01:56:32.740 When you look at a guy is like what makes him physically attractive, kind of having a

01:56:38.660 more feminine, beautiful face to you? 0.96

01:56:40.840 Or is it having like more of a rugged, like masculine look?

01:56:44.520 Because I've seen girls look at like Timothee Chalamet and look at like these guys that

01:56:50.320 look like they have like, they have defined bone structure and their aesthetic and they

01:56:54.640 have the golden ratio, but they just come off.

01:56:57.140 They just, they have like a skinny neck. 0.58

01:56:58.820 It's called if that they're ugly. 0.89

01:57:00.500 They're what? 0.97

01:57:01.100 They're too perfect that they're ugly. 0.96

01:57:03.540 Hold on.

01:57:03.880 Let's go one by one.

01:57:04.680 I feel like, I feel like, I feel like teenage girls, like those like Timothee Chalamet like 0.97

01:57:09.780 type guys, but once, once they like grow older, they like the like more masculine guys.

01:57:13.940 That's a good question though, Sam.

01:57:14.900 That's a good question.

01:57:15.960 Right.

01:57:16.380 I definitely agree with you that.

01:57:18.180 Well, I don't know if you actually made a, you didn't make a determination on that,

01:57:23.080 but I like the question.

01:57:24.120 We can go around on that.

01:57:25.380 So do you prefer like a more kind of like feminine, but attractive looking guy or more

01:57:29.640 like rugged, masculine?

01:57:33.240 I'm from Manhattan, so I'm definitely not going for the lumberjacks, but I also do like

01:57:38.400 a little yeehaw in there.

01:57:39.580 Like I like the look of a guy who takes care of himself, but also is like a man.

01:57:43.980 Like I, I was on a date with somebody.

01:57:46.420 Okay.

01:57:47.080 We were walking after dinner and we passed Sephora and he's like, oh my God, I'm a

01:57:51.160 rouge.

01:57:51.560 The sale's going on.

01:57:52.700 Yikes. 0.73

01:57:53.060 I'm like, who the hell?

01:57:54.220 Well, what guy is spending a thousand dollars at Sephora? 0.93

01:57:56.960 I'm not even a rouge.

01:57:58.120 I buy a lot of skincare and makeup. 0.98

01:58:00.520 I, at that moment I was like, if you take, it sucks for men. 0.99

01:58:03.840 Cause if you guys don't take any care of yourselves, it's like, ew, you're gross. 1.00

01:58:06.740 And if you take too good care of yourselves, it's like, oh, he's gay. 0.99

01:58:09.340 So there's no balance and you guys just lose. 0.96

01:58:11.940 Sorry.

01:58:12.940 Good time.

01:58:13.320 So he didn't get a second.

01:58:14.420 I want to go back to 23.

01:58:15.780 I think the good balance is like my boyfriend doesn't really care, but then if I'm like doing

01:58:18.960 something, he'd be willing for me to like let him do it all.

01:58:20.980 They need to go two steps.

01:58:22.300 Can you care to not much more?

01:58:23.680 Cleanser, moisturizer.

01:58:25.120 Did your boyfriend respond?

01:58:25.880 I care if not yet.

01:58:27.120 I think he might be asleep.

01:58:29.040 So, uh, to go back to what you were saying about a guy and his physical attractiveness

01:58:32.660 and stuff.

01:58:33.260 One of the things that I've like pretty much universally noticed about women is like they 1.00

01:58:37.280 can see a guy who's very physically attractive, but if his energy is off instantly becomes

01:58:43.080 unattractive.

01:58:43.740 And on top of that as well, I've met a lot of women who will see a guy who like isn't

01:58:48.620 very physically attractive.

01:58:49.640 He might be short, might be a little bit out of, out of shape, but if his energy is super

01:58:53.700 on point and he's like funny and confident, he becomes like the hottest guy in the world

01:58:57.260 to them.

01:58:57.940 Tell me, tell me if you guys agree with girls and guys, if you agree or disagree with this,

01:59:02.800 there is, I feel like room.

01:59:05.520 I honestly absolutely just forgot what I was going to say.

01:59:07.960 What were you saying?

01:59:09.020 I was saying like a guy cannot be conventionally physically attractive, but if his energy is

01:59:13.680 super on point, he can become like the hottest guy in the world.

01:59:15.880 So I think this is a girl versus guy difference.

01:59:18.880 I think girls fall in love with potential and in a way that guys don't.

01:59:22.860 I know a lot of girls who will stay in things. 1.00

01:59:24.420 We're like, wow, he has great potential.

01:59:25.760 Like he may not have the exact looks, but like I could get him to work out more.

01:59:28.660 And I know a lot of women who stay for the guy's potential. 1.00

01:59:31.420 Whereas I think guys are a little bit more like clear cut about it.

01:59:34.760 Like if she's right for me now, great.

01:59:36.500 If she's not, it's over.

01:59:37.560 It's not going to work.

01:59:38.440 So I do think women are probably more likely to stay with somebody that they're like iffy 0.96

01:59:43.120 about than guys.

01:59:44.360 But do you show me?

01:59:46.260 Okay.

01:59:46.580 Let me, let me, let me specify the question even further.

01:59:48.940 Has there been a guy in your past where you were like, he's not like physically super attractive,

01:59:53.300 but his energy was on point and you found him very attractive?

01:59:55.560 Yes, absolutely.

01:59:56.760 He was short.

01:59:57.500 That was the problem.

01:59:58.220 He was five nine.

01:59:59.880 Would he still have a chance despite being five nine?

02:00:02.400 If his like, his personality was extremely tall.

02:00:04.920 Well, he was also like, he was a learned man of valor.

02:00:08.200 And I think those are very rare to find these days.

02:00:10.720 And that is like a diamond.

02:00:12.480 What is, what does that mean?

02:00:13.640 A learned man of valor?

02:00:15.140 Can you explain that for the audience?

02:00:16.800 Despite not being college educated, he was very well-rounded about just different culture,

02:00:21.900 different things.

02:00:22.620 History would teach me a lot.

02:00:23.920 He would know a lot about things.

02:00:25.080 And he also had a lot of different interests rather than just like, let's squad up on Fortnite.

02:00:29.260 He's like reading theories and just teaching me a lot.

02:00:33.960 And he's like rugged, not in the sense of like lumberjack rugged, but like down to earth,

02:00:40.060 really in tune with just like the world, but like in a godly way.

02:00:43.420 Not like a man of the world, but he's a man of God who understands the world.

02:00:47.100 And I really appreciate people who just have similar outlooks to me on life too.

02:00:52.860 And you said he was 5'9"?

02:00:55.000 Yeah, on a good day.

02:00:56.280 On a good day.

02:00:56.800 All right.

02:00:57.000 So he's like 5'8".

02:00:58.300 Did you date him?

02:00:59.680 Would you date him like that?

02:01:00.100 Kind of.

02:01:00.480 A little bit.

02:01:01.460 Kind of a little bit.

02:01:02.200 Yeah.

02:01:02.440 But he also wasn't Jewish.

02:01:03.600 So I wasn't going anywhere.

02:01:04.780 If he was Jewish, would you date him? 0.89

02:01:06.780 Yeah.

02:01:07.260 Yeah.

02:01:07.580 Is this the guy that red-pilled you on the golden ratio?

02:01:10.360 No.

02:01:10.680 Those were like, that's just stuff that you learn when you're younger.

02:01:13.160 I feel like everyone, well, I went to private school, so I don't know what's happening in

02:01:16.280 public school.

02:01:16.680 Oh, you went to private school.

02:01:17.780 Jewish school.

02:01:18.840 Yeah.

02:01:20.140 That's why.

02:01:22.400 That's why what, Sam?

02:01:23.900 That's why she, you know, she has like literal ancient knowledge. 1.00

02:01:27.000 Oh.

02:01:27.300 Because you don't really read these things in school.

02:01:29.240 You have to read these in philosophy.

02:01:30.320 All right.

02:01:30.460 All right.

02:01:30.500 I'm donating $200.

02:01:33.280 Debra, no long-term commitment, but we can make an agreement.

02:01:37.760 You'll sign ANDA, grow your hair out a bit, convert away from Judaism. 0.94

02:01:43.160 I'll coach you to speak a little less and fly you out private, and you and my girlfriend

02:01:48.840 can compete for my affections.

02:01:51.300 Your response to Marquavius Martin, Debra?

02:01:53.460 This is a really tempting offer.

02:01:55.360 I'm not going to lie.

02:01:56.140 Like, the NDA mixed in there, that really just gets me going.

02:02:00.820 Unfortunately, no.

02:02:02.620 Oh.

02:02:03.340 Martin donated $200.

02:02:05.580 Thanks, Martin.

02:02:06.380 Debra, some other issues.

02:02:08.560 You don't ever cuss at my boy, Brian.

02:02:11.240 His very essence demands respect, and not ladylike.

02:02:15.540 Need to lose that Apple watch.

02:02:17.760 I'll put a Rolex on it if you behave yourself.

02:02:20.800 And you haven't gotten hotter with time.

02:02:23.320 Ask the biologist.

02:02:25.460 Shots fired.

02:02:25.900 Thanks for your money.

02:02:27.080 Shots fired.

02:02:27.360 We're going to take it around a bit.

02:02:28.060 Thank you, Marquavius.

02:02:28.760 Well, Rollies will not... 0.94

02:02:30.800 I'm going to have a mint busted down two-tone Rolex one day, but that doesn't tell me how

02:02:35.500 many calories I burn during the day, and that doesn't measure my Pilates classes for

02:02:38.840 me, so I'm rocking with the Apple watch these days.

02:02:41.580 But sorry, Brian, you need the internet people to defend you.

02:02:44.900 I think Brian is a strong man.

02:02:47.520 He said don't cuss at you.

02:02:48.620 I think Brian is a strong man, and he don't need no internet people defending him.

02:02:53.680 But to the person beforehand, no, I would never convert from Judaism.

02:02:57.220 I'm an extremely proud Jew today until the end of time.

02:03:00.540 And in terms of competing for your girlfriend, do I look like I would compete?

02:03:04.240 Thank you.

02:03:05.300 Does it change anything if...

02:03:07.780 So you're not a 10, though?

02:03:09.340 Did you say that?

02:03:10.660 No, but I mean, you won't compete.

02:03:13.120 I'm not the type of girl who competes for affection.

02:03:15.000 Does it change anything that Marquavius Martin is a Mensa member, and so very high IQ, and

02:03:24.520 he owns like 40 Quiznos restaurants?

02:03:30.440 Does that change?

02:03:31.980 Quiznos is like the sandwich shops.

02:03:34.000 Does that add to the calculus of whether you would date him or not?

02:03:39.300 Yeah, I'm really gonna...

02:03:40.380 No.

02:03:41.180 Honestly, no.

02:03:42.060 I'm one of those people that like, the same way I was having a conversation at dinner last

02:03:46.160 night, somebody was telling me, he's an agent here, one of his people he manages has made

02:03:50.240 $28 million on OnlyFans in her lifetime, and we were talking about that, and I was like,

02:03:55.280 I just don't feel there's any amount of money that can pull me away from my morals and my

02:03:58.820 values, and I think it's the same, even if it's 100 Quiznos, even if it's 1,000 Quiznos.

02:04:04.040 What if he owns a couple Taco Bells?

02:04:05.420 10,000 Quiznos.

02:04:06.040 I've never...

02:04:06.900 I'm gonna try Taco Bell.

02:04:08.260 Okay.

02:04:09.040 All right.

02:04:09.280 I'm not a fast food girly.

02:04:10.800 I'm kosher.

02:04:11.260 A base, though.

02:04:12.540 Base.

02:04:13.140 Yo, it's time for that, Debra. 0.97

02:04:14.740 Time to revolt.

02:04:15.800 Donated 100.

02:04:16.700 I wonder if all of the people watching on YouTube started watching on Rumble.

02:04:20.120 Would the guests be allowed to speak freely?

02:04:22.620 These hot-button issues affect all facets of life. 0.99

02:04:25.640 Shut up, guys. 1.00

02:04:26.520 Shut the fuck up. 1.00

02:04:27.360 Brian coming down on his guests on the behalf of YouTube is gross to watch. 1.00

02:04:32.600 Hey, it is what it is.

02:04:34.180 A lot of these social media companies are super woke.

02:04:36.540 We kind of look, you know, we got to play by their rules is what it is.

02:04:42.880 It is an interesting question, though.

02:04:44.980 Hypothetically, if you could bring all of your guests from YouTube to Rumble, would you just let it rip more?

02:04:50.380 Oh, yeah.

02:04:50.740 Yeah, I mean, Rumble would, on Rumble, you can say anything.

02:04:55.700 I've actually, I'm, I actually know the owners of Rumble.

02:04:59.460 I've known them for like 10 plus years.

02:05:01.200 Bro, dude, after, after the success of the whatever podcast, you should hit them up and be like, yo, like, we're one of the top podcasts on YouTube.

02:05:07.020 Let's make a deal.

02:05:08.460 There's some negotiations.

02:05:09.900 There's already some negotiations going on with Rumble, so I don't want to.

02:05:13.300 Is there even 40 Quiznos?

02:05:14.300 I typically don't speak about.

02:05:16.200 Yeah.

02:05:16.560 I wish your followers would direct.

02:05:18.740 I'm speaking with Rumble, so.

02:05:20.360 That's cool.

02:05:21.040 Tell your followers they should direct their energy, not towards Brian.

02:05:23.600 It's not his fault that he has to censor himself so that he doesn't lose his business.

02:05:27.300 Directed to the government to repeal Section 230, which allows social media companies to violate our First Amendment.

02:05:31.880 Thank you very much.

02:05:32.560 Let's go.

02:05:33.320 Let's go.

02:05:34.100 So based.

02:05:36.100 Absolutely.

02:05:36.500 Yeah, it's, but.

02:05:38.220 Free Brian.

02:05:39.220 Free my boy.

02:05:39.860 Thank you.

02:05:40.700 Thank you.

02:05:40.920 Free Brian.

02:05:41.840 Hold on, guys.

02:05:43.200 Hold on, hold on.

02:05:44.300 Brickson, love your show, but please move to Rumble.

02:05:47.900 Also, read your audience.

02:05:50.400 Chase brings the topics people are craving to hear.

02:05:53.520 Those that cause polemic and incite debate.

02:05:56.480 Do not scold him.

02:05:58.260 Praise him for boosting engagement in your channel.

02:06:01.620 Hashtag Christy's Lord.

02:06:03.360 Chris.

02:06:04.440 Eve, thank you for the $200 soup chat.

02:06:07.540 Chase is a homie. 1.00

02:06:09.060 Sam's a homie. 0.95

02:06:10.000 I just, like, we, because we're on YouTube, gotta be careful.

02:06:16.280 It's my primary source of income.

02:06:18.680 It's my business.

02:06:19.360 So I just have to tread carefully.

02:06:23.440 But like Debra was saying, like, I think these platforms are doing a disservice to public discussions on these topics by being so censorious.

02:06:34.000 Yeah, and Eve, I don't take offense to him scolding me.

02:06:37.420 I mean, he's walking a tight line with these discussions, and YouTube is very, they're very picky.

02:06:47.000 Yeah, and sensitive in particular.

02:06:48.920 I don't hold it against him.

02:06:50.640 I think he's a smart man to do what he has to do.

02:06:53.080 Did they, with Matt Walsh, did they demonetize his videos from advertising?

02:06:57.860 His entire platform.

02:06:58.360 Or, like, super chats, everything.

02:06:59.980 His YouTube channel.

02:07:00.800 Demonetized.

02:07:01.280 He's moving to Twitter to full stream now.

02:07:02.140 He can't bring in any income, even through super chats and stuff like that.

02:07:04.280 He's moving to Twitter, fully.

02:07:06.760 He's losing, like, five figures of ad revenue, I think.

02:07:11.040 I don't get that.

02:07:11.240 That's crazy.

02:07:11.760 No, I don't get how, like, it's six figures.

02:07:13.600 Is it six figures?

02:07:14.280 It's 100,000.

02:07:15.540 Oh, did it?

02:07:16.120 I thought he was, really?

02:07:17.900 I mean, he's got a very popular YouTube channel, so I wouldn't be surprised if that's his YouTube-based ad revenue.

02:07:23.560 But it's, yeah, it's a lot of money.

02:07:24.740 Dude, if this continues, I feel like it's eventually going to catalyze a mass exodus away from this platform.

02:07:29.700 They've tried.

02:07:30.420 People have tried making alternatives, but I think it's hard because YouTube isn't just, like, some fun platform.

02:07:35.360 We literally spoke about this.

02:07:36.540 YouTube has been on our iPhone since the first iPhone came out.

02:07:39.240 And these companies that got in when there wasn't any other social media, they have such chokeholds and monopolies on the industry that there's no room for anybody to come out.

02:07:47.480 They're just going to get squashed right away.

02:07:49.020 And, like, if half the people leave, then the majority are still on these apps, and then we're just all divided, and everyone's views goes down.

02:07:55.140 Yeah.

02:07:55.560 Rumble, I mean, Rumble is doing well.

02:08:01.080 They've been able to attract some decent personalities over to their platform, and I think they are starting to compete to some degree with YouTube.

02:08:09.300 But, I mean, like, if you, I mean, you really, no one's really competing with YouTube in the sense of, like, I mean, you have Twitch, which is actually more censorious than YouTube.

02:08:23.200 Twitch is way, has way stricter.

02:08:26.200 Yeah, Twitch is way stricter than YouTube when it comes to a lot of these topics.

02:08:30.220 And you can't even, like, certain words, they're, like, the most tame words you can't even say if you're streaming on Twitch.

02:08:37.580 And the crazy thing with Twitch is they'll straight up ban your channel.

02:08:43.320 You'll get, like, a three-day, seven-day ban on Twitch.

02:08:47.000 And your channel's not, you can't even see the channel.

02:08:49.380 Whereas on YouTube, it'll just be, like, you'll be demonetized for a period of time, or you can't upload for a period of time.

02:08:54.960 But your content is still there.

02:08:56.240 Your channel's still there.

02:08:57.080 But on Twitch, it's, like, you're erased from the platform entirely for, like, three days, seven days a month.

02:09:03.280 So, like, TikTok.

02:09:04.560 Twitch, oh, TikTok's also terrible when it comes to censorship.

02:09:09.320 But it's, like, they'll censor the most crazy things, but then I'm scrolling on TikTok.

02:09:13.540 And I'll have this girl who's acting like she's getting hit from behind on my, on live. 0.99

02:09:17.620 Like, it's literally insane.

02:09:18.860 I get her on my live, my For You page, too.

02:09:21.100 I'm, like, reading a book, and they're just children.

02:09:22.760 Reading hit from behind.

02:09:23.820 Like, there'll be ladies reading a book, and they'll be, like, halfway off the screen. 0.99

02:09:26.720 And they'll, like, bounce back and forth to make it.

02:09:28.600 Are you serious?

02:09:28.780 They try to make it look like they're being.

02:09:30.680 Or, like, ladies working out in the gym, but, like, barely wearing anything, just bending over the whole time. 0.72

02:09:35.700 I hate it.

02:09:35.880 And, like, that's all allowed, but you can't even just say your opinion.

02:09:38.640 I've seen, like, birth on TikTok.

02:09:40.380 Yeah.

02:09:40.800 Yeah.

02:09:41.240 Literally.

02:09:41.920 What?

02:09:42.400 Yeah.

02:09:43.100 Bro, what is happening on TikTok?

02:09:43.580 I saw it, like, last week.

02:09:45.000 It's because, like, they're allowed to say it's medical.

02:09:47.580 Like, it's all those fine lines.

02:09:49.340 Does anyone know if TikTok is going away?

02:09:51.440 It's not.

02:09:51.820 It's not.

02:09:52.320 Aren't there rumors that it's going away?

02:09:54.780 It's all scare tactics.

02:09:56.040 You know what else was happening at the time?

02:09:57.560 A lot of bad things.

02:09:58.520 Like, it's always a distraction when these things come to light.

02:10:00.500 TikTok was, like, the least important thing on that bill.

02:10:03.300 Yeah, that bill was crazy.

02:10:04.500 The last time TikTok was supposed to be banned, Hillary Clinton was on trial for her email. 1.00

02:10:07.660 So, there's, like, a lot of things that happened.

02:10:09.460 We know how that went.

02:10:10.780 It didn't.

02:10:11.460 All right.

02:10:12.420 I'm not sure how to pronounce this.

02:10:14.260 Fias.

02:10:15.780 Sweden.

02:10:16.380 Is this Swedish kroner?

02:10:17.940 I don't know.

02:10:18.280 Thank you for the 2,500 Swedish currency, I believe.

02:10:22.340 This is a good discussion.

02:10:23.360 Hey, thank you, man.

02:10:23.780 Appreciate it.

02:10:24.660 Okay.

02:10:25.420 Let's get into our topic for tonight.

02:10:28.040 So, actually, really quick.

02:10:29.720 Pull up Twitch.

02:10:30.240 Let me just shout out the Twitch people, and we're going to get into one of our first topics here.

02:10:35.380 Two hours into the podcast.

02:10:37.940 All right.

02:10:38.500 Guys, go to twitch.tv slash whatever mods.

02:10:40.700 If you could just spam it in the chat really quick.

02:10:42.800 Go drop us a prime if you have one.

02:10:44.760 Drop us a follow if you have one.

02:10:46.760 Rabid Dog, think for the tier one.

02:10:48.540 Two Lit, think for the prime.

02:10:49.660 My Curse, think for the prime.

02:10:51.100 Emilio, think for the prime.

02:10:52.680 Oh, I already, Puro Cannon.

02:10:54.020 I think I already did some of these.

02:10:54.980 Skunky, think for the prime.

02:10:57.800 BG, think for the prime.

02:10:59.060 Priz, think for the prime.

02:11:00.600 Adult Human Female, thank you for the prime. 0.99

02:11:04.580 And thank you all for the follows, too.

02:11:06.660 Heroism, think for the follow.

02:11:07.620 Deadpool, think for the follow.

02:11:08.680 Appreciate it.

02:11:09.120 Appreciate it, guys.

02:11:09.500 Okay, so, first topic.

02:11:15.160 Oh, wait.

02:11:15.580 Let me just do this one.

02:11:16.380 Time to revolt.

02:11:16.620 Donated a hundred bucks.

02:11:17.580 Do you want to read it?

02:11:17.880 So pleasantly surprised to hear Section 230 to come up on this stream.

02:11:21.740 I literally stopped watching on YouTube and started watching on Rumble right before I sent my message.

02:11:27.200 Let's see who else can do the same.

02:11:29.100 The ladies in the corner need to speak more. 1.00

02:11:32.220 Yeah, do you guys want to honestly, though, speak about Section 233?

02:11:35.160 Sorry, I'm okay.

02:11:37.820 He said what needed to be said.

02:11:40.260 What do you guys think about, like, the French Revolution?

02:11:44.420 Any thoughts on that?

02:11:45.440 Voltaire.

02:11:46.780 Foucault.

02:11:48.180 My heart is meant to free are the ones who...

02:11:49.820 I'm honestly not super informed about that.

02:11:52.640 Yeah, don't worry.

02:11:53.200 Respect for the humility.

02:11:54.380 Okay, Eric, can you pull up the Leonardo DiCaprio infographic?

02:12:03.280 We went on Noel's podcast about this.

02:12:05.320 Here we go.

02:12:05.940 Okay, so, Leonardo DiCaprio, I believe he's, what, 45?

02:12:09.980 He consistently dates women between the ages of 18 to 25.

02:12:14.220 He's not dated a woman, I suppose, as far as...

02:12:19.060 Maybe he has, just his long-term girlfriends anyways, that's older than 25.

02:12:23.300 He likes young, beautiful, attractive women.

02:12:26.440 And he's gotten some flack for this.

02:12:31.140 So, and you know what's interesting, though?

02:12:34.840 There does...

02:12:36.020 We don't know the details of the breakups.

02:12:40.260 We don't know if the women are breaking up with him. 0.69

02:12:42.860 We don't know what's going on.

02:12:44.880 Maybe there's people making some assumptions here that he's dumping them at 25.

02:12:49.700 Maybe the women are just realizing that he doesn't want children, he doesn't want to get married,

02:12:53.800 and they want to pursue someone to have a family with.

02:12:57.340 So, you know what it could also be?

02:12:58.740 It might become, like, a self-fulfilling prophecy, where, like, once the girls start getting close to 25, 0.87

02:13:03.060 they're like, oh, shit, I know that he always breaks up with girls at 25. 0.97

02:13:05.900 I got a dip. 1.00

02:13:07.720 Could be.

02:13:08.480 Could be.

02:13:08.820 Break up with him before he breaks up with you. 1.00

02:13:10.620 Yeah, yeah, actually.

02:13:11.420 Defense tactics.

02:13:12.140 It could be.

02:13:12.980 So, what's your reaction to that, Kiko?

02:13:16.680 Kiko, he's 45, dating women who are in their early 20s.

02:13:22.160 I know what Kiko thinks about this.

02:13:24.120 Kiko Banks.

02:13:25.580 Or, you know...

02:13:26.520 Kiko Banks.

02:13:27.800 Yeah, we'll...

02:13:28.360 Yeah, go ahead, Kiko. 0.86

02:13:29.180 Rage queer. 1.00

02:13:29.320 I feel the times when men are older than 40 and are in a relationship with somebody underneath the age of 21,

02:13:40.180 and it's a one or two off time, so be it.

02:13:42.920 They met.

02:13:43.640 But a man over the age of 40 who chooses to exclusively date 18 or 19-year-olds, I find that a bit weird.

02:13:50.420 It feels like they want a power dynamic.

02:13:52.440 It feels like they can't find a woman over that age.

02:13:54.780 Because it's like, what, oh, because the evidence that you guys say to me that why an 18-year-old is so much better to date than a 25-year-old,

02:14:02.720 it's just, it lacks.

02:14:05.180 It lacks luster for me every single time.

02:14:07.560 So, if you want to go through the details again of why.

02:14:10.960 Sure, before we give our rebuttal, I want to let everybody answer.

02:14:14.000 So, your thoughts?

02:14:16.240 Mmm.

02:14:19.020 Mmm. 0.99

02:14:21.240 That's fucking weird. 0.99

02:14:22.440 Turns into American Idol, everybody. 1.00

02:14:23.900 Oh, oh, oh.

02:14:27.680 This is like a guy who, like, is older and he, like, seeks out younger girls like that.

02:14:33.780 Younger girls?

02:14:34.820 Sorry.

02:14:35.320 You're fine.

02:14:35.680 Um, I don't know.

02:14:37.700 What happened to your gloves, by the way?

02:14:39.120 I missed those.

02:14:39.840 I took them off. 0.99

02:14:40.680 My fucking LCD kicked in. 1.00

02:14:42.180 We love gloves. 0.99

02:14:43.720 I'm here for them, too, but, like.

02:14:45.720 It's too much.

02:14:46.320 Yeah.

02:14:46.760 Got it.

02:14:47.100 I served a look for a while.

02:14:48.540 I think I gave while I gave.

02:14:50.280 And it's still serving.

02:14:51.740 Okay, sure.

02:14:52.840 Yeah, it's just weird.

02:14:53.900 It's just weird to me.

02:14:54.760 Like, a guy who purposely seeks out younger girls.

02:14:57.320 It's like, it just seems like you can't have a problem.

02:14:59.780 Um.

02:15:01.340 Into the mic.

02:15:03.200 I don't have a question.

02:15:04.260 We'll tell you about that.

02:15:05.040 That's fine.

02:15:05.460 That's fine.

02:15:05.860 We'll move on.

02:15:06.360 Go ahead.

02:15:06.600 Um, I think it's weird when it's that big of a age difference.

02:15:11.220 Especially when, if they've, like, just turned 18, 19.

02:15:14.740 I feel like it's a little strange.

02:15:16.980 But, I mean, he's rich and famous.

02:15:19.680 So.

02:15:20.200 If you, if you weren't dating a guy right now, would you date Leonardo DiCaprio?

02:15:24.320 No.

02:15:24.820 Stop the cap. 0.94

02:15:25.460 Stop the cap. 0.94

02:15:26.040 Stop the cap. 0.94

02:15:26.680 I wouldn't.

02:15:27.200 I wouldn't either.

02:15:28.220 You so would.

02:15:29.620 I wouldn't.

02:15:30.120 Come on.

02:15:30.680 I don't think you guys realize the opportunity a lot of women have to date or be with, like, 0.98

02:15:36.620 Leonardo DiCaprio.

02:15:37.640 I'm not saying this is what I'm saying.

02:15:39.040 But, like, he's not attractive to me in his slightest.

02:15:41.540 Like, I, not even for the money could I do that.

02:15:43.840 Like, I value myself and my life. 0.98

02:15:46.060 I would shoot my brains out probably a year in.

02:15:48.180 So, why would I even do it? 0.99

02:15:49.160 Okay.

02:15:49.500 One of his five plus guns.

02:15:51.660 I feel like so many women say that. 0.98

02:15:53.960 But, the reality is if they met.

02:15:54.940 I value my happiness.

02:15:55.800 If they saw him in person and he was like, hey, how are you doing?

02:15:59.280 You'd be like, hi.

02:16:00.580 That's true.

02:16:01.360 You know?

02:16:01.960 I feel like you would just be starstruck.

02:16:03.760 I don't think you would immediately want to, like, jump on them.

02:16:05.640 You'd be starstruck.

02:16:06.760 I would not date him, though.

02:16:08.340 Did you guys ever see that clip when Jeff Bezos and his girlfriend slash wife ran into

02:16:12.900 Leonardo DiCaprio?

02:16:13.880 I did.

02:16:14.440 And he's, like, standing on the stair and she's looking up at him like, that's what would

02:16:19.240 happen to 99.9%.

02:16:21.360 You're not from here, are you?

02:16:21.880 Hold on, hold on.

02:16:22.520 That's what would happen to 99.9% of women if they just happened to run into Leonardo DiCaprio.

02:16:27.180 You'd be starstruck.

02:16:28.120 And if he was like, hey, so, like, you know, what's your name?

02:16:32.160 What are you doing later?

02:16:33.120 You want to go grab a drink?

02:16:34.060 Like, you're telling me, you'd be like, no, I'm not interested.

02:16:36.460 Well, on top of that, on top of what Chase just said.

02:16:39.440 No chance.

02:16:40.060 There's going to be a whole entourage surrounding him, and you're going to see men going up

02:16:46.060 to him wanting to get attention, women wanting his attention.

02:16:48.920 You're going to see this social component of the fame, and you're going to find that,

02:16:54.200 like, you don't even have to intellectualize that. 0.99

02:16:57.020 There's something, like, women will see that and be like, that's the fucking man. 1.00

02:17:01.500 Yep. 1.00

02:17:03.420 I would bet, I would bet.

02:17:04.600 I feel like I've seen that.

02:17:05.920 I bet in a situation he's describing, I'd bet $1,000 every single girl at this table

02:17:13.020 would, if he asked them out, would be like, bro.

02:17:14.880 Just because you would do that for Leonardo DiCaprio doesn't mean that we wouldn't do

02:17:17.680 that for Leonardo DiCaprio. 0.95

02:17:19.000 He's so ugly to me. 0.99

02:17:20.300 Like, he's literally hideous. 0.99

02:17:21.320 Like, money can't do that for me.

02:17:22.180 He's a good-looking guy.

02:17:23.040 He's not to me at all. 0.98

02:17:24.080 He looks like a fucking, like, the Lord of the Rings, like, yeah, he's not cute. 1.00

02:17:29.980 His head is a ball, walking ball. 1.00

02:17:32.900 He's full of wrinkles. 0.99

02:17:34.100 He's hideous, in my opinion, honestly.

02:17:35.780 Even when he was younger, maybe when he was, like, in his, like, teens, when he pushed on 0.67

02:17:39.840 it, he was, like, a little bit.

02:17:41.220 He was a hottie in the Titanic.

02:17:42.460 So physical appearance matters quite a lot.

02:17:45.420 Yeah, it does.

02:17:46.060 So physical appearance, he could be a literal A-list movie star.

02:17:50.240 Hey, hey, hey.

02:17:50.940 Everybody in the chat.

02:17:51.820 Everybody in the chat, let us know if you think that,

02:17:54.080 they're capping.

02:17:54.700 Do you guys think that they're telling the truth?

02:17:56.260 Yo, cap emojis.

02:17:57.100 Brian, bring in Leonardo DiCaprio right now.

02:17:59.100 Me and Billy.

02:17:59.640 Billy and I went on Michael Knowles' podcast about this exact topic, and we both said that

02:18:03.120 we would not date him.

02:18:03.960 I have a great reason.

02:18:04.920 Stop the cap. 0.94

02:18:05.400 Wait, hold on.

02:18:05.940 Really quick, I just got to check.

02:18:06.860 Fact check.

02:18:07.420 Eric, can you scroll back up?

02:18:10.040 Is your reason based on principle?

02:18:11.760 Yo, hold on.

02:18:12.580 Hold on.

02:18:12.760 No, when you get to me, I'll explain it.

02:18:14.400 I beat my Wi-Fi.

02:18:15.600 Thank you for the 10 gifted memberships.

02:18:18.680 That's a great name, by the way.

02:18:20.140 I beat my Wi-Fi.

02:18:23.060 Thank you, man.

02:18:23.660 I appreciate it.

02:18:24.200 Do you think that's a great name?

02:18:26.160 Is that a pun?

02:18:27.440 It's funny.

02:18:27.820 It's funny.

02:18:28.400 It's funny.

02:18:28.880 I beat my Wi-Fi.

02:18:29.380 It's funny.

02:18:30.100 Look at those caps.

02:18:31.200 Look at those caps.

02:18:32.020 Look at the caps.

02:18:32.580 Oh, there's a top hat in there.

02:18:33.240 Keep spamming caps, everybody.

02:18:34.920 Let's see more top hats, guys.

02:18:35.900 Spam the cap.

02:18:36.760 Ray Yarizbeth believes them.

02:18:39.340 Everybody else says that they're capping.

02:18:40.440 They say one of the most critically acclaimed actors of our generation, and he's a very talented

02:18:52.140 actor, too.

02:18:53.860 Dude.

02:18:54.340 It's just every metric.

02:18:55.600 Every woman responds to status and power in a man, and no matter how principled a woman 1.00

02:19:02.140 can say, that doesn't mean that she's necessarily going to date him, but there's something in

02:19:05.440 every woman.

02:19:06.140 When they meet a powerful man with high status who is admired, who's a charismatic guy, women

02:19:11.960 respond to that.

02:19:13.500 I saw you shaking your head.

02:19:15.160 You're saying no?

02:19:15.680 No.

02:19:16.420 I'll give the exact answer I gave on the Michael Knoll Show.

02:19:19.840 I understand why he goes for younger women.

02:19:23.520 He can.

02:19:24.940 He can.

02:19:25.580 He can attract a lot of women.

02:19:29.600 I also see why he wants that type of women, because they're pure. 1.00

02:19:33.320 If he's able to attract a new pure woman every five years, then why not? 1.00

02:19:38.420 That's what men are attracted to.

02:19:40.060 I would not date him because, well, let me go back to that.

02:19:44.180 Since he keeps going through these girls, he's never going to have the traditional family.

02:19:49.160 He's never going to have the nuclear family, and I think you find true fulfillment in the

02:19:53.540 nuclear family, and I think you're here to create a family, and he's not going to find

02:19:59.620 fulfillment, and I will not date somebody that's not looking for that.

02:20:04.400 So that's fair.

02:20:05.400 I understand that.

02:20:05.640 You're a principled woman who has something that you're specifically looking for, and

02:20:10.220 he doesn't want that, and so it's like, it's a no for you.

02:20:13.120 But what I was saying, and what I'm asking if you're disputing, is the idea that you wouldn't

02:20:19.380 at least be somewhat, like, there wouldn't be a part of you that would be interested,

02:20:23.400 like, wow, this extremely high status guy who the entire world admires is taking an interest

02:20:27.940 in me, like, that wouldn't excite you at all?

02:20:29.400 I've had a high status guys reach out to me multiple times.

02:20:33.080 Check any of our DMs.

02:20:34.240 Exactly.

02:20:35.400 Check any of our DMs.

02:20:36.920 We have it open to us on every single day.

02:20:38.640 It's not as hard as you guys think, but we already have this opportunity.

02:20:41.740 I got NBA players, NFL players, movie stars, UFC players.

02:20:45.960 UFC players.

02:20:47.340 Fighters.

02:20:48.720 Who at Leonardo DiCaprio's level has, like, hit you up, though?

02:20:53.200 I had a great conversation with Andrew Tate.

02:20:54.940 Yeah.

02:20:55.420 Did you?

02:20:55.940 Mm-hmm.

02:20:56.280 Nice.

02:20:56.860 Yeah, but see, like, a principled woman isn't going to be, like, attracted to Andrew Tate,

02:21:00.760 unless, like, she's into, like, the same stuff.

02:21:02.120 I don't know any woman who'd be attracted to Andrew Tate.

02:21:04.040 Andrew Tate slid into you.

02:21:05.080 I know.

02:21:05.540 I know.

02:21:05.900 And shout out Samira Khan. 0.90

02:21:07.100 We're trying to set her up as one of Tate's wives. 1.00

02:21:09.460 I don't want to get beat in my marriage. 1.00

02:21:10.860 What the fuck? 0.99

02:21:11.060 That's actually. 0.99

02:21:11.800 Thank you.

02:21:12.140 Not on my list of marriages.

02:21:13.380 Hold on.

02:21:13.920 That's slander.

02:21:15.500 Andrew Tate would beat you? 1.00

02:21:17.160 He seems like the type of guy to beat the shit out of his wife. 1.00

02:21:19.000 Well, are you basing that on that? 1.00

02:21:22.280 Are you kidding me?

02:21:23.020 Like, have you heard anything he says?

02:21:23.800 Are you basing that on his, like, videos with his ex who wanted him to, like, rough her up?

02:21:26.840 No, on his demeanor as a guy and the way he thinks about women and the way that he sees

02:21:30.200 them.

02:21:30.720 The difference between a godly man and a man who sees the value in a woman in his life 0.93

02:21:34.800 is that, like you said, he wants to be a man worthy of submission.

02:21:37.840 What has Andrew Tate done to be worthy of submission?

02:21:39.580 He doesn't give off this sense of, like, I'm a strong leader, both for myself, my community.

02:21:43.860 I'm a strong leader in religion.

02:21:45.600 Like, there's just a lot of qualities that give off a strong man who's, like, a good man.

02:21:50.260 Being a strong man isn't equal with a good man, and I just have never seen, like, any

02:21:55.100 side of him that made me think that he wouldn't beat his wife.

02:21:57.700 He seems like a pretty strong man to me.

02:21:59.980 Yeah, so, all right.

02:22:01.680 I don't agree with, like, a lot of the stuff that Andrew Tate has said and done in his life.

02:22:05.660 However, I will absolutely dispute the idea.

02:22:08.380 Sorry, Chase.

02:22:09.100 Gosh.

02:22:09.460 Martin donated $200.

02:22:12.680 Ladies, the primary metric of beauty menus for mate selection is a direct correlative to 1.00

02:22:18.220 procreative value.

02:22:19.940 To give a man the best chance of carrying on a legacy, the desired woman should be as fertile 1.00

02:22:24.620 and healthy as possible, i.e. youthful.

02:22:27.100 Mark Wavius, thank you, man, for the $200.

02:22:28.860 That's what you guys say every single time.

02:22:30.240 So, Tate...

02:22:30.880 I want to finish my point.

02:22:31.800 Yeah, yeah, you were talking about Tate.

02:22:32.720 Tate, go ahead. 0.69

02:22:33.720 Although I disagree with a lot of the things he's said and done in his life, like, part

02:22:37.320 of the reason why he does attract a lot of women is because he is a strong leader and

02:22:40.820 he is very protective.

02:22:41.880 Doesn't mean he's, like, a good leader in terms of religion or, like, religious moral

02:22:46.380 values and stuff, but, like, guarantee his girlfriends know, okay, if this guy loves me,

02:22:50.420 he's going to protect me and he's going, like, I'm going to be safe with him.

02:22:54.160 I think it depends what women want because something, like, I've made it very clear I would 0.96

02:22:57.960 never settle for anyone less than, like, a manly masculine man.

02:23:00.440 But I also appreciate the soft side of men where, like, they're hard to everybody else.

02:23:05.400 It's kind of like the guy who's bad to, like, a bad guy to everybody else, but they're very

02:23:08.680 sweet and soft for you.

02:23:10.020 I definitely appreciate that side of men and I don't see that reflected in him.

02:23:13.900 Like, I couldn't imagine if you're, like, crying, just personality-wise, not really

02:23:17.560 based off his takes.

02:23:18.060 Yeah, but you're also basing that off of what he portrays on social media.

02:23:20.880 Exactly.

02:23:21.720 That's what it is, though.

02:23:22.740 That's all we could base it off of.

02:23:24.220 That's all I could base it off of.

02:23:24.880 If I met him, maybe I'd have a different take.

02:23:26.800 I don't know if he's still in prison right now or not.

02:23:28.580 No, he got that on me.

02:23:29.780 If I ever make it to Romania, I'll hit him up.

02:23:32.800 And let's not act like we just see him doing a little bit of videos here and there.

02:23:35.940 We've seen hour-long of him talking about his points of views and how he is as a person.

02:23:40.300 So we kind of do get to see, even if it is a facade or not, if that's a facade that he

02:23:43.720 wants to take on, I don't want to be in part of that.

02:23:46.460 I want to make it very clear I don't disagree with everything he says.

02:23:49.300 I'm not one of those people that's just, like, an Andrew Tate hater.

02:23:51.800 Okay, so let's bring it back to Leonardo DiCaprio.

02:23:54.060 What was the original question?

02:24:00.920 So while we were reacting to this infographic of basically he doesn't date older women or

02:24:07.140 women his age, and we were going around getting everyone's reaction to that.

02:24:10.740 I don't know if you got to kind of give your take on it.

02:24:13.380 What was the question again?

02:24:14.260 Just basically, hey, here's Leonardo DiCaprio.

02:24:17.560 He's 45 or something.

02:24:19.300 He's dating women in their early 20s, basically.

02:24:23.280 Love is love.

02:24:24.360 I'm not judging, but...

02:24:26.220 But you wouldn't date him.

02:24:27.700 I wouldn't date him.

02:24:29.060 Okay.

02:24:29.560 I wouldn't date him.

02:24:29.940 Even if you're single.

02:24:31.520 Even if I was single, I don't think I would date him.

02:24:32.680 Leonardo steps to you.

02:24:33.740 I'm 18.

02:24:34.520 He's, what, 45?

02:24:35.720 I know he goes for girls my age, but...

02:24:37.700 His last girlfriend was 19.

02:24:38.680 You're right there.

02:24:38.900 But I don't go for guys that are 45, so...

02:24:40.860 Rip.

02:24:41.560 Sorry, RIP is in the chat for Leonardo DiCaprio.

02:24:43.880 So, all right.

02:24:44.540 But, yeah, like, again, like, no judgment.

02:24:47.140 Like, I...

02:24:47.960 Is it right?

02:24:49.080 I don't think it's completely right, but...

02:24:51.480 Why is that?

02:24:52.740 Because that's, like, dating my father.

02:24:54.800 My father's 47.

02:24:58.220 Well, no, but that would be incest.

02:25:00.160 You're not related to Leonardo DiCaprio unless there's something you want to tell us.

02:25:03.140 No, in the age group.

02:25:03.160 You know what I mean.

02:25:03.860 Like, in the same age group.

02:25:05.920 Okay, there's...

02:25:06.320 What's the oldest you would date?

02:25:08.940 Probably, like, 22, 23.

02:25:12.500 What's the oldest everyone here would date?

02:25:13.780 I was going to say, I'm very serious about it.

02:25:14.840 That's a good question.

02:25:15.520 You know, matter of fact, where's everyone from?

02:25:17.380 30 to 35, 30, probably.

02:25:19.880 And you're 23?

02:25:20.940 Yeah.

02:25:21.240 Yeah.

02:25:22.380 Wait, you had an issue with that the last time we were on the show.

02:25:26.020 I'm 23 years old.

02:25:27.300 I'm not 18.

02:25:28.240 I know, but you were saying guys in their, like, 30s to mid-30s...

02:25:32.280 I said 30s plus...

02:25:33.320 ...who had interest in 18 to, like, 25-year-old girls.

02:25:36.460 I never said that.

02:25:37.420 Yeah, it was, like, 23, 25.

02:25:38.780 That was your age.

02:25:39.260 I never said that.

02:25:40.040 Yes, you did.

02:25:40.840 I said 30-plus-year-old men who consistently only date 18 and 19-year-olds.

02:25:45.400 My whole point is always being under 21.

02:25:47.140 No, it was early 20s as well.

02:25:48.300 It was early 20s as well.

02:25:49.760 My point has always been under 21.

02:25:51.300 I've had this belief for a very long time.

02:25:53.400 It was early 20s as well.

02:25:53.540 And when you tell me that I misspoke what you said, I agree with you. 0.96

02:25:57.080 So I'm telling you right now, maybe if there were 60...

02:26:00.040 Yeah, I said it's weird if she's 23, but 30-plus... 0.97

02:26:03.220 It was specific...

02:26:03.760 Yeah, it was specifically 30-plus into 18 to early 20s. 1.00

02:26:07.040 I would never say a five-year age gap is weird, so don't put words in my fucking mouth. 0.99

02:26:11.620 I'm not. 0.99

02:26:12.040 I mean, we could pull up the footage.

02:26:13.420 We could pull it up.

02:26:14.620 I just got a beautiful chat.

02:26:16.540 Thank you so much.

02:26:18.380 What does it say there?

02:26:19.340 He said, one day I'm sure you're going to find your besheret, which is in Judaism, like 0.76

02:26:22.060 your soulmate.

02:26:23.780 And...

02:26:24.260 ...kola kavod.

02:26:24.920 Good job.

02:26:25.460 Am Yisrael Chai.

02:26:26.180 Long live Israel. 0.99

02:26:27.040 And then it's like, bless us to God.

02:26:28.620 God bless.

02:26:30.960 I speak Hebrew.

02:26:31.580 Cars and Deb, thank you for the $100 super chat.

02:26:34.220 It is a great mitzvah for you to donate that to us, so...

02:26:38.960 So I got an interesting question to kind of reframe things.

02:26:43.500 Reframe things for the ladies. 0.97

02:26:45.080 Okay, we know your guys' answers.

02:26:46.820 For you two.

02:26:48.320 I know that you're committed to your boyfriend.

02:26:49.940 You probably love him a lot.

02:26:51.300 Imagine that you were single.

02:26:53.720 Imagine Leonardo DiCaprio had this, like, conversion, and he was like...

02:26:58.620 You know, I'm going to be a Christian, or I'm going to be Jewish.

02:27:00.540 And then he comes upon you guys, and he's like, hey, like, I don't want to keep dating

02:27:03.480 around anymore.

02:27:04.120 I want to get married and have a family.

02:27:05.340 Would you guys be open to it with a guy like Leonardo DiCaprio?

02:27:08.720 No?

02:27:09.660 Well, personally, I think he's also been with too many women for me, and publicly.

02:27:13.520 Like, that's just something I'm not a fan of.

02:27:16.140 But he's also just not my type.

02:27:18.480 Like, I've had opportunities to date successful guys if I wanted to, but I want somebody on

02:27:23.500 my level, in a sense, like, who makes me be better, but also my oldest, like, I have

02:27:27.700 a hard time talking to a guy that's 30 or older.

02:27:29.740 It just feels too old for me.

02:27:31.720 Also, I think there's a generational difference nowadays.

02:27:34.120 It's not just age.

02:27:35.080 There's, like, we have iPhones.

02:27:36.600 We grew up with iPhones.

02:27:37.480 They didn't have internet.

02:27:38.660 It's a lot different.

02:27:39.720 They don't get it.

02:27:40.800 So if he got it a little older, like a 30-year-old, but I'd cap at, like, 29 for me, max.

02:27:45.960 29 for you?

02:27:47.100 Yeah.

02:27:47.260 And you're 20?

02:27:48.500 I'm 23.

02:27:49.320 23, okay.

02:27:50.000 Yeah.

02:27:50.300 All right.

02:27:50.640 My grandparents were only 10 years apart.

02:27:52.140 Really quick on sort of related to this.

02:27:54.760 You mentioned that, well, we get a lot of, we have gotten a lot of attention from people

02:27:59.100 who are notable or famous.

02:28:00.680 You mentioned blue check marks in your DMs, and you gave a laundry list of different professions

02:28:06.800 that these men are in.

02:28:08.480 So how many blue check marks have you had in your DMs?

02:28:13.220 Pull the mic closer to you, please.

02:28:15.280 Thousands?

02:28:15.740 Pull the mic closer to you.

02:28:16.460 I'm going to say thousands.

02:28:18.160 Thousands of blue check marks.

02:28:19.120 I've had my Instagram for a few years now, but I think this is girls, what you don't get 1.00

02:28:23.360 it is it's not just me.

02:28:24.720 A girl could have 2,000 followers, and Andrew Tate's lighting in her DMs.

02:28:27.880 I know girls like that because guys think that they, I mean, they go for it.

02:28:32.160 They shoot their shot.

02:28:32.980 I can't blame them.

02:28:33.760 Good for you. 1.00

02:28:34.300 Shoot your shot. 1.00

02:28:35.060 You never know. 0.78

02:28:35.520 Well, I want to stay on the Leonardo DiCaprio topic for a little bit here, but I do want to

02:28:40.320 say women have dating on easy mode changed my mind.

02:28:43.780 Okay.

02:28:44.920 Completely agree.

02:28:46.020 What do you say?

02:28:46.800 Women have dating on easy mode. 1.00

02:28:48.500 I would disagree.

02:28:50.500 Compared to men. 0.67

02:28:51.380 I see your point.

02:28:52.820 Women, hot women. 1.00

02:28:53.480 I see your point, but it's like-

02:28:54.620 Even average women have dating on easy mode. 1.00

02:28:57.260 Yeah.

02:28:57.640 Sevens and above.

02:28:58.320 You go, your struggle you're saying is you struggle maybe to get a first date.

02:29:02.860 Me, it's like, we're scared for our lives sometimes.

02:29:07.180 So it's like a very difference of things when it's like dating on easy mode. 0.98

02:29:10.400 Like it's, maybe if you're an ugly man, sure.

02:29:14.980 My boyfriend definitely has never had a problem dating because he's an attractive man. 0.99

02:29:18.260 If you're an ugly girl, it's going to be hard for you too. 0.99

02:29:20.540 But here's the difference. 0.99

02:29:22.700 Average women have an easier time dating than average men.

02:29:27.820 And whose fault is that?

02:29:28.500 It's yours' fault for sleeping with anything that has two legs.

02:29:31.480 No.

02:29:32.220 Men.

02:29:32.420 Men.

02:29:32.740 Men in general.

02:29:33.560 Men in general.

02:29:34.340 No, that's not how it works.

02:29:35.460 That's really not how it works.

02:29:37.180 Can we address the chat for one second?

02:29:39.120 What?

02:29:39.300 They're all coming after me saying 30-year-olds didn't have iPhones.

02:29:41.480 I was nine years old when the first iPhone came out.

02:29:43.700 We didn't have Instagram until I was 12 years old and I'm only 22 right now.

02:29:47.140 I don't know why I said 23.

02:29:48.180 I'm 22.

02:29:49.340 Sorry.

02:29:49.960 My birthday is May 13th.

02:29:51.360 I'm literally 22 right now.

02:29:52.600 I was born in 2000.

02:29:53.720 But yeah, to all the people that are saying you're 27, you didn't have it.

02:29:56.540 Like, so being raised, like I had a Motorola flip phone for my first phone.

02:30:00.580 Like, people who grew up with Instagram, Photoshops, all these celebrities in your face, TikTok,

02:30:05.160 all this pressure to be on social media.

02:30:08.100 Like, I've been on social media since fifth grade.

02:30:10.220 It's a lot.

02:30:10.440 Someone who was 30 wasn't on social media since fifth grade.

02:30:12.520 Being raised with social media is a very different mindset and worldview than people

02:30:16.720 who grew up the good old-fashioned way, hanging out in the park, seeing your friends, meeting

02:30:20.140 up with them.

02:30:21.080 It's different mindsets, I think.

02:30:22.860 Okay, here, let me frame the question like this.

02:30:24.620 Agree or disagree, do women have dating on easy mode? 1.00

02:30:27.220 Kiko, yes or no?

02:30:29.680 Compared to men. 0.67

02:30:31.540 What does dating on easy mode even mean?

02:30:33.620 Like, I don't, I really don't, I really don't get that.

02:30:35.640 It means that you get to select.

02:30:38.260 So this is something that's, like, inherent to just women in dating is that they're kind 0.91

02:30:43.320 of all players and not, like, consciously, but because they just have so many options,

02:30:48.900 right?

02:30:49.200 Like, there's this guy in your DMs and that guy met you yesterday and there's this guy

02:30:52.840 in the grocery store and so you have options.

02:30:54.440 Whereas men, we have to go out and create those options for ourselves. 0.89

02:30:57.920 They don't just slide into our DMs.

02:30:59.000 They don't just show up into our lives.

02:31:00.280 I mean, just to complain about that just sounds like very, like...

02:31:03.120 It's not complaining.

02:31:03.800 It's just acknowledging a reality of the world.

02:31:05.760 What Sam is getting at, and by the way, I disagree with the idea that all women are, 0.97

02:31:08.980 like, kind of players, but I understand what you're getting at.

02:31:11.320 The reality that he's getting at is that women are born with their value and men have 0.93

02:31:16.360 to build their value, right? 0.75

02:31:18.320 If I'm some loser and I just sit at home and I'm eating, like, potato chips all day and

02:31:23.340 I don't spend my time trying to build my value as a man, build my confidence, all these kind 0.94

02:31:27.140 of things, I'm not going to have as much success with women as I would otherwise.

02:31:30.980 But an average woman who isn't working on her own personal excellence and who still has 1.00

02:31:35.600 a decent level of attractiveness, even if she's just average, there's going to be tons 1.00

02:31:40.080 of dudes that want to sleep with her.

02:31:42.160 And average guys do not have tons of women that want to sleep with them. 0.99

02:31:46.040 They probably do.

02:31:46.760 They're just trying to seek out women who are above their bakery. 1.00

02:31:49.300 Kiko, let me tell you conclusively. 0.99

02:31:52.140 I know men who are ugly as hell getting laid every night. 0.96

02:31:54.780 Kiko, hold on, let's just finish. 0.99

02:31:56.720 Because they have Tinder.

02:31:58.220 They have Tinder, but they also have game.

02:32:02.580 And they have confidence, okay?

02:32:04.580 I mean, game matters.

02:32:05.540 Riz.

02:32:06.140 It does.

02:32:06.920 The average guy does not have tons of women who want to sleep with him. 1.00

02:32:10.940 The average guy would be lucky to have one or two who want to sleep with him. 1.00

02:32:15.640 Okay?

02:32:15.880 I see your point, but it's like...

02:32:17.980 The average, the point that I've made in previous podcasts, the average guy can go

02:32:22.080 on Tinder and get zero swipes.

02:32:24.720 Okay?

02:32:25.000 The average woman can go on Tinder and get laid two nights. 1.00

02:32:28.480 Kiko, just think about it this way.

02:32:29.720 Are we talking about dating or getting laid?

02:32:31.400 You say it's because guys are lazy?

02:32:33.060 Easy.

02:32:33.660 Easy.

02:32:34.140 Easy.

02:32:34.380 A lot more men are easier to, will sleep. 0.97

02:32:37.980 Sure.

02:32:38.220 Men are more willing to sleep with people who are not on their level than women. 0.99

02:32:41.900 That's your own personal problem.

02:32:43.240 Don't sleep with people who are below you. 0.51

02:32:44.560 And you are proving my point.

02:32:46.540 You're proving my point.

02:32:47.740 Men will sleep with a lot of different women, okay? 0.99

02:32:50.040 That sounds like a personal problem.

02:32:51.400 It's not a personal problem.

02:32:53.320 It's just the reality of life.

02:32:55.300 Women will not sleep with average guys. 1.00

02:32:56.960 Men will sleep with average women, is the point. 1.00

02:32:59.240 And men have to build their value.

02:33:00.720 It doesn't just come naturally to them like it does for women. 1.00

02:33:02.800 Maybe it depends on area.

02:33:03.700 You wanted to come in?

02:33:04.780 No, it's just a universal law of nature.

02:33:06.940 Hold on, go ahead.

02:33:07.140 Would you go for an average woman, though? 1.00

02:33:09.540 No.

02:33:11.420 Would you go for an average woman? 1.00

02:33:13.340 You guys had a lot of standards.

02:33:14.240 What do you mean by that?

02:33:15.320 You three have a whole bucket of standards.

02:33:16.980 I'm not an average man.

02:33:18.100 I work much harder than the average dudes in my age group.

02:33:20.920 I have for a long time.

02:33:23.040 I'm selective with who I date.

02:33:24.640 I'm extremely selective.

02:33:25.500 I always have been.

02:33:26.480 But just because I wouldn't doesn't mean that a ton of other guys wouldn't.

02:33:30.840 You know what I mean?

02:33:31.120 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:33:31.660 I know a lot of guys who are very average, and they don't have any problem finding women

02:33:34.720 to sleep with or date or anything.

02:33:36.240 It's just knowing who's on your level.

02:33:38.260 But is finding someone to sleep with really fulfilling?

02:33:40.720 I would love to hear Billy come in on this.

02:33:42.220 Yeah, I have across platforms probably over 800,000 followers that are all single men.

02:33:48.920 That's why they follow me for dating advice.

02:33:52.060 And I get thousands of messages every day from attractive guys that cannot get a date. 0.98

02:33:59.760 And the messages are fucking sad. 0.91

02:34:02.260 Like, it is, girls are not aware of the crisis out there that men are facing in the dating world. 0.97

02:34:09.340 I don't think you guys can, I don't think you can speak on it because you don't know about it.

02:34:15.020 You don't see them.

02:34:16.860 It's way bigger than you could ever imagine.

02:34:20.120 You have no idea how sad it is.

02:34:24.140 It's, like, I cry about it when I read the messages.

02:34:27.620 So let me ask you a question.

02:34:28.740 You mentioned that you have a lot of attractive guys who cannot get a date.

02:34:32.960 Why would you say that is?

02:34:34.520 I think...

02:34:36.520 This is...

02:34:39.260 You can just be honest.

02:34:40.740 This is an important conversation that a lot of people can learn from.

02:34:43.400 I think the feminism movement has completely beat down men. 0.98

02:34:49.980 Okay, expand on that.

02:34:51.420 I think they are scared to speak to women.

02:34:56.980 Because of the Me Too stuff?

02:34:58.080 Or...

02:34:58.640 That's a part of it, but I don't think it's a big part of it.

02:35:03.660 I think their confidence is absolutely destroyed in the dating world.

02:35:10.880 Women feel like they... 1.00

02:35:12.520 I feel like the feminism movement has kind of made women not just feel equal to men,

02:35:18.420 but actually superior to men.

02:35:19.940 And I feel like that's the way they treat a lot of men.

02:35:22.080 Do you feel like the feminism movement has convinced a lot of women to not appreciate men for what they bring to the table?

02:35:30.580 Masculinity is dead.

02:35:32.220 Because feminism causes women to become masculine and to embody the traits that they would otherwise look for in a partner. 1.00

02:35:41.060 Would you say that's accurate?

02:35:41.780 Yeah, and that's hard for a man to even be attracted to.

02:35:45.480 Right.

02:35:45.900 Because men... 0.63

02:35:46.460 No man wants a masculine woman. 1.00

02:35:48.200 Right.

02:35:48.480 And men, you know, we have a dream inside of our hearts.

02:35:51.400 If you're a masculine man who's red-blooded, we have a dream inside of our hearts to care for a woman and protect her and provide for her and build a family with her.

02:35:59.560 And a lot of women who are, like, deep into feminism, they're like, I don't need a man to do those things for me. 1.00

02:36:03.980 Do you feel like that is demoralizing a lot of men who are looking for women?

02:36:07.020 Oh, absolutely.

02:36:07.800 It's not giving them purpose.

02:36:08.960 When a man cannot provide for his family...

02:36:10.860 Well...

02:36:12.120 Men can, but... 0.79

02:36:13.280 Yeah, no, when a man is not appreciated for providing for his family, that completely...

02:36:19.540 Invalidates him in a way.

02:36:21.100 Yes, yes, yes.

02:36:21.820 And so do you feel like that is causing a lot of men to feel hopeless in the dating marketplace?

02:36:26.700 Yeah, and I also think a lot of men...

02:36:28.960 I think porn plays a huge part in this.

02:36:32.380 I think that a lot of men are just...

02:36:37.040 Addicted?

02:36:37.660 I think they're addicted.

02:36:38.600 I think they're in their homes now more, and they don't have the social skills to speak to women. 1.00

02:36:44.460 And I think, you know, like we said, game is attractive to us.

02:36:48.340 Like, a lot of men don't even know how to approach women.

02:36:51.980 I think it's a combination of things.

02:36:53.740 And I also think that the whole porn industry is driven by a lot of women that feel empowered with sex.

02:37:03.880 And that's a whole other topic.

02:37:06.580 If I may ask her another question, I assume you've had successes in helping men get better with women

02:37:13.000 and find girlfriends, wives, so on and so forth.

02:37:15.660 What would you say has been the most effective thing in your coaching of these men to help them cross that threshold?

02:37:22.360 It's honestly the conversation skills.

02:37:24.800 Once a guy...

02:37:25.920 Once a guy can land the first date, usually he's capable of taking it a little bit further.

02:37:32.700 It's honestly just getting the first date.

02:37:34.240 Actually, I've helped people a lot with dating profiles. 0.99

02:37:37.420 Their dating profiles are trash. 0.99

02:37:39.560 Once a man... 0.99

02:37:40.660 One of my really good friends is actually a dating app photographer.

02:37:44.140 Very lucrative business.

02:37:46.460 Wow.

02:37:47.160 Good to know.

02:37:48.220 Yeah, it's honestly...

02:37:49.400 He does amazing work.

02:37:50.500 Sounds terrible.

02:37:50.720 But once he completely revamps their profiles, because women look at a profile for a significant... 1.00

02:38:00.520 First photo.

02:38:01.360 Yeah, that's it, and they're done.

02:38:02.760 They're automatically...

02:38:03.580 They'll find the smallest ick.

02:38:06.060 So what has made the most successful dating profiles for men?

02:38:09.900 What do those profiles look like?

02:38:10.980 Honestly, less of the...

02:38:12.980 Do you just listen to this?

02:38:15.820 I'm trying to think of what...

02:38:17.560 His name is Justin Harder, for anybody wondering.

02:38:19.640 His work's insane.

02:38:21.900 Jay Harder photo.

02:38:22.980 I'll give him one last shout out.

02:38:24.120 But basically, putting your...

02:38:28.980 It's making the man look more successful.

02:38:32.660 That's what's leading to...

02:38:33.980 Like, showcasing his life.

02:38:36.060 Yeah, but not a false image.

02:38:37.260 He'll never project them in a false light.

02:38:38.980 They'll never be on a private jet if they can't afford a private jet.

02:38:41.480 Like, it's not like painting a false reality.

02:38:44.740 But kind of...

02:38:46.380 Like, you're not having the club photos where you're drunk with your six friends.

02:38:50.800 And I think the gym selfies, like, getting rid of those and replacing them with maybe,

02:38:54.920 like, fitness photos.

02:38:55.840 Like, overall fitness photos.

02:38:57.960 I think a lot of guys make dating profiles, and they think...

02:39:03.340 They select photos that they think the boys would like.

02:39:06.420 They make their profiles for the boys.

02:39:08.080 Because that's something I always say.

02:39:09.280 Like, you go on...

02:39:09.640 I remember when I was on dating apps, it was, like, most of the guys, all their pictures,

02:39:14.080 there was, like, six of them in the photo.

02:39:16.160 Like, I could really even tell what the dude would look like.

02:39:17.840 Because it was either a group photo every single time, or, like, an obscured, super far

02:39:22.560 away sunset, and they're just back.

02:39:25.100 And it's like, yeah, I mean, like, duh.

02:39:27.040 Like, why would we want to swipe on that?

02:39:28.840 I don't even know what you look like.

02:39:29.940 Like, so...

02:39:30.940 Somebody said...

02:39:31.500 You know what's funny about that, though?

02:39:32.760 You gotta help yourself.

02:39:33.160 You know what's funny about that, the whole looks thing, is you can actually...

02:39:36.420 You often hear people say, men are so superficial.

02:39:39.780 Men care so much about looks.

02:39:41.780 However, it happened...

02:39:42.680 It seems to be the case that women care a great deal about looks and physical appearance, 1.00

02:39:47.560 as is proven by what's going on on dating apps. 1.00

02:39:51.240 I'm superficial as fuck. 0.99

02:39:52.320 Well, that's only... 1.00

02:39:53.500 When it comes to it first.

02:39:54.340 I want to be attracted to you.

02:39:55.220 Somebody said fake profiles get you dates, not relationships.

02:39:58.600 It's not a fake profile.

02:40:00.260 Good photos get you dates, and a lot of men have the conversation skills to get a relationship,

02:40:05.240 but they just can't get the dates.

02:40:06.460 So once they get the dates, they're good.

02:40:08.600 And also, they can develop their conversation skills on those dates.

02:40:12.000 They just need the taste.

02:40:12.820 Wait, so you think once a guy gets a date...

02:40:15.700 It's not an automatic relationship, but I think a lot of men...

02:40:19.220 It's a step.

02:40:20.720 It's a step, yeah.

02:40:22.060 I think men...

02:40:23.220 Step towards what?

02:40:23.700 That girl eventually becoming a girlfriend? 0.96

02:40:26.780 Because I would say, in today's day and age, I would say most first dates don't lead anywhere.

02:40:35.440 Well, not just like that single first date.

02:40:37.440 Once you have more options, you absolutely learn from them.

02:40:41.040 Yeah.

02:40:42.280 I think it goes back to what we were talking about earlier, which is that a man's personality

02:40:47.000 really adds to his attractiveness for women.

02:40:49.280 And so when they're on the apps and only the apps, they don't really get to feel his energy.

02:40:54.140 And that's always been my issue with using the apps.

02:40:57.000 It's like, I have high energy.

02:40:59.220 I have the...

02:41:00.100 I'm not going to talk about myself too much, but...

02:41:02.520 You got the sauce, Sam.

02:41:03.660 Yeah.

02:41:03.900 When a guy has the sauce, women can't really feel that. 1.00

02:41:08.940 And you can't even really feel that over text because you can't hear the tonality of his

02:41:13.200 voice.

02:41:13.540 You can't look into his eyes. 0.96

02:41:14.680 And so my advice to any guys that are struggling on the apps would to be grow some balls and 0.90

02:41:19.800 go and look confused in Trader Joe's because that's where you're going to find a girl that's 1.00

02:41:27.480 worth dating because if you leave it up to the apps, all they can look at is your shitty 0.97

02:41:32.280 photos that your friends took of you from 2016. 0.57

02:41:34.520 Thank you for putting that up.

02:41:35.720 Ladies, go to Home Depot. 1.00

02:41:37.360 I think there's a lot of success in that.

02:41:39.040 Have you seen those memes?

02:41:40.560 I'm like, hello.

02:41:40.980 Home Depot is where you find a father.

02:41:44.220 I'm looking for screws.

02:41:45.360 I'm in a light bulb.

02:41:45.800 Can I ask you a question about me?

02:41:46.880 Hold on.

02:41:47.080 Hold on, Kiko. 0.67

02:41:48.120 I wanted to let you guys come in a little bit here.

02:41:51.200 Your take.

02:41:51.760 What's the question?

02:41:53.640 Okay, the question is, do women have dating on easy mode as compared to men? 0.96

02:41:59.920 Agree or disagree?

02:42:03.300 I feel like I don't have enough experience to respond to this, but.

02:42:10.880 Here, let me ask a clarifying question.

02:42:13.120 Who has an easier time getting laid, men or women?

02:42:19.380 I would say women. 0.95

02:42:20.500 Hold on.

02:42:21.760 Go ahead.

02:42:22.880 I would say women. 0.95

02:42:24.520 Okay, you would say women. 0.96

02:42:25.820 Yeah.

02:42:25.940 Who has an easier time getting a date, men or women?

02:42:37.520 Go ahead.

02:42:40.220 I honestly don't know.

02:42:43.100 I mean, you don't have like a sense.

02:42:47.920 I mean, you have girlfriends, you have guy friends.

02:42:49.640 Do you guys talk about that?

02:42:54.500 Yeah, she does a demo.

02:42:55.600 Okay.

02:42:56.060 What about you?

02:42:57.160 I would say women definitely have it easier. 1.00

02:42:59.960 Okay.

02:43:01.560 Are we just going, saying our answers or would you like me to elaborate?

02:43:05.800 If you'd like to elaborate.

02:43:06.620 I'll elaborate a little bit about it.

02:43:07.680 What's up, Kiko?

02:43:08.900 No.

02:43:09.720 What's up?

02:43:10.700 I was just saying, because she was like asking, I was saying he just wants you guys to talk

02:43:13.440 because you're not talking.

02:43:14.060 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:43:14.940 So just say something so we can afford it.

02:43:15.700 Oh, yeah.

02:43:16.780 Well, no, I want to try to bring them into the conversation.

02:43:19.840 Like we made the point earlier, women have the choice to whoever men they want. 1.00

02:43:24.480 Obviously, they have a lot of options.

02:43:26.800 But I would agree with that.

02:43:28.860 But I think like we said, like we rated ourselves 10s.

02:43:32.280 Like women are overly confident. 0.99

02:43:34.980 So if a guy will walk up to you when you're out, you're going to be like, oh, no.

02:43:38.620 So that like that makes them feel insecure in a way, which is why it's harder for them

02:43:44.120 to be able to talk to women and try to get more women.

02:43:48.920 At the bar, I see very successful encounters.

02:43:52.620 So I don't know, maybe he's just because everyone's drunk there.

02:43:55.220 But when I'm bartending, I'll oftentimes see men approach women.

02:44:00.040 Majority of the time, they either chat for a little bit, end up dancing together, whatever.

02:44:04.180 I rarely ever see a man approach a woman at my bar, at least where I work, and them just 1.00

02:44:08.680 be like straight fist. 0.76

02:44:10.080 Unless they were like drunk as hell all over them being a weirdo, then of course.

02:44:13.520 But usually they give them a chance.

02:44:15.000 The thing about that example, Kiko, is the type of dudes that are going to bars are gregarious,

02:44:19.400 outgoing guys who like have confidence in their game, and they know that there's attractive

02:44:24.460 girls out there, and they want to go talk to them. 1.00

02:44:26.860 That is not representative of the average male population.

02:44:29.380 Okay, but like how Sam said, get out of there and go.

02:44:32.000 When men approach women in a nice way and not creepy, majority of the time, it's not met

02:44:38.220 with just, ugh, get away from me.

02:44:40.940 Online, maybe, because I'm not going to respond to a random man who just DMs me if I don't know

02:44:44.180 who they are.

02:44:44.860 Because honestly, it's scary.

02:44:46.040 I don't know who I can meet out there and be a weirdo and chop me up into a million

02:44:49.300 pieces.

02:44:50.100 But, you know, sometimes you could read it better in person.

02:44:52.540 So I feel like for men, a lot of encounters come better.

02:44:55.260 So I was going to ask her, have you just started this after the pandemic?

02:44:58.600 Like, have we seen a shift since the pandemic where people were inside trying to do this

02:45:02.280 versus when men were out and approaching women, and it wasn't as taboo for those things?

02:45:07.960 I see them having a fairly easy time, especially in IV.

02:45:12.260 It could be the ugliest man walking up to an average woman, and they'll go home together. 0.99

02:45:18.720 Men and IV have no problem getting laid. 1.00

02:45:21.480 I've watched the ugliest men get laid every single night by the ugliest.

02:45:26.460 Kiko, because you are seeing a specific subset of men that have confidence.

02:45:29.700 That's why I said maybe it's the area.

02:45:31.180 No, it's not just the area.

02:45:32.400 This is across the board.

02:45:35.000 A very small amount of men are just getting women easily.

02:45:38.580 For the vast majority, you shake your head, I talk to a lot of men, Kiko, a lot of men,

02:45:44.900 and they all come to me because they're like, bro, it seems like you have confidence

02:45:47.740 in understanding how women work. 0.97

02:45:49.460 Help me because I'm struggling with these women. 1.00

02:45:51.300 A lot of dudes are not successful with women.

02:45:53.600 The majority of guys are not successful with women.

02:45:56.200 It is difficult for men to attract and keep women if they are average men.

02:46:01.220 It is not an easy thing.

02:46:02.420 I would say they're below average.

02:46:03.520 No, no, no.

02:46:04.260 It's not below average.

02:46:05.040 Well, this is exactly why marriage rates are declining.

02:46:06.980 And it's also why she has 800,000 followers across her platforms of attractive, you said 0.99

02:46:13.300 it's below average men.

02:46:14.440 She has attractive dudes that are struggling to get solid women. 1.00

02:46:17.780 I would say any man who's going to her for that probably has some more deep-rooted issues

02:46:22.580 is the reason why they're having to do that.

02:46:24.760 The problem is that you are judging all men based on the small subset of men that you see.

02:46:30.760 I don't think you could speak on.

02:46:33.020 You're judging off the small subset of men that you see.

02:46:34.520 No, I know a shitload of guys.

02:46:37.200 So do I.

02:46:37.800 Okay, a shitload of guys.

02:46:38.880 Let's pull up some studies too, by the way.

02:46:40.780 Yeah, the majority of these guys.

02:46:43.140 I mean, all you have to do is look at that thing that Brian brings up.

02:46:46.180 Like how everyone's hoes? 1.00

02:46:47.220 Hold on.

02:46:47.780 How do hoes exist? 1.00

02:46:48.620 Hold on.

02:46:49.540 The female delusion. 1.00

02:46:50.600 Yeah, they're fucking everybody. 1.00

02:46:51.420 Please listen. 0.99

02:46:52.080 Kiko, let him finish.

02:46:52.980 Please listen.

02:46:53.440 He's cut me off a lot of times, Brian.

02:46:54.660 If you don't, if you haven't noticed.

02:46:55.140 Kiko, you're the master of cutting off.

02:46:56.740 Just let him finish and then you can go.

02:46:59.500 You would look shocked, but just.

02:47:02.880 By the way, you can keep a poker face while people are talking.

02:47:05.400 You don't need to do like a whole.

02:47:08.200 You don't need to do like a whole.

02:47:10.360 Brian, don't say anything to me anymore.

02:47:12.760 You don't.

02:47:14.200 Bro, you don't.

02:47:14.640 Do you want views or no? 1.00

02:47:15.780 If I'm just sitting here like this, you're not going to get shit. 0.99

02:47:17.680 So let me do what I do. 0.96

02:47:19.220 Thank you.

02:47:19.820 But it's, it's, uh, if you're like grimacing when someone's trying to make a point and

02:47:23.360 you're like rolling your eyes, it's kind of rude. 0.99

02:47:25.200 He does the exact same shit. 1.00

02:47:27.780 He like, I'm not looking at shit. 1.00

02:47:28.700 Kiko, I've listened, I've listened to, I've listened to many of your points. 0.99

02:47:32.120 I let you make them and I try to address them.

02:47:34.000 And the point, the point that I want to make right now throughout, so I've done, this

02:47:38.640 is what the ninth episode that I've done at this point.

02:47:40.680 And one of the things Brian has asked girls, he goes like, okay, so what kind of guys

02:47:44.420 do you like?

02:47:44.840 Right.

02:47:45.460 Girls like tall guys.

02:47:46.740 Uh, who ideally make a decent amount of money.

02:47:50.740 Oftentimes, like Debra said, it's above six foot tall, right?

02:47:53.500 And if you look up the female delusion calculator and you look at the amount of dudes that are

02:47:58.060 above six feet tall that make, you know, $90,000 a year or up, it's like less than 1% of the

02:48:04.340 population.

02:48:05.120 Okay.

02:48:05.360 So you have women saying, Hey, this is what I want. 1.00

02:48:08.700 99% of men do not fit that standard.

02:48:13.200 Okay.

02:48:13.600 And so you say, well, it's the below average guys that, you know, they can't get laid.

02:48:17.440 Literally 99% of men do not fit in the average woman's standards for what they want in a

02:48:23.040 partner.

02:48:23.360 Do you see the problem there?

02:48:24.120 I see that.

02:48:24.680 But my point is a lot of women might be saying that, but their actions aren't showing that 1.00

02:48:28.820 I might say that, but my last ex was broke as fucking five, seven. 0.98

02:48:31.640 So he still got to date me. 0.98

02:48:33.800 You're right.

02:48:34.080 Which is why he got to date you.

02:48:37.440 Yeah.

02:48:37.880 He got to date me.

02:48:39.100 What?

02:48:39.880 Yeah.

02:48:40.420 Let me re-say it again.

02:48:41.180 He got to date me.

02:48:42.780 You guys got to date each other, right?

02:48:44.660 Based off of the point of he's saying is how he's below me because he's not six foot and

02:48:48.620 wasn't making that much money.

02:48:49.620 In his eyes, he got to date me because based off what you guys are saying.

02:48:54.460 Is that your frame of how you view?

02:48:56.820 I would say he got to date me because he reached out to me for months beforehand and we had

02:49:01.000 to have multiple friends intervene to get us into a relationship.

02:49:04.360 You didn't get to date each other?

02:49:07.000 Honestly, not.

02:49:07.580 You didn't feel fortunate to date him?

02:49:09.120 No, not at all.

02:49:10.180 So why did you date him?

02:49:11.380 I was honestly dragged into it.

02:49:12.920 I was in a very traumatic point in my life.

02:49:15.020 Rip.

02:49:15.700 Rip for this price.

02:49:16.700 Can I say something quick on this topic?

02:49:17.580 Okay.

02:49:17.680 When I met him, I was at a very low point of my life.

02:49:20.960 We met one month before the pandemic hit and we kind of just got.

02:49:24.000 Stuck together.

02:49:24.740 If I had never.

02:49:25.880 Stuck together.

02:49:26.420 If I had never.

02:49:27.240 If I wouldn't have experienced what I experienced right before meeting him.

02:49:30.940 We were basically.

02:49:31.440 If you know what the term is, we were trauma bonded basically together.

02:49:34.020 And it took me a long time to get out of it.

02:49:35.940 Honestly, because I thought he was going to kill me.

02:49:37.580 So after I was with him, I was scared to get out of it. 0.99

02:49:39.600 So because you guys are fucking making fun of me. 0.95

02:49:41.120 If you want me to actually say the real reasons. 0.98

02:49:42.800 Yeah.

02:49:43.280 He was making.

02:49:44.040 Give me those signs that if I was going to actually leave him, he was going to.

02:49:47.440 You know.

02:49:47.800 It was rude.

02:49:48.520 It was rude.

02:49:49.160 What?

02:49:49.280 What's like.

02:49:50.120 Huh?

02:49:50.560 It was rude.

02:49:51.180 It wasn't me.

02:49:51.660 It was Eric.

02:49:52.000 Well, I'm sorry to hear that relationship.

02:49:53.820 I think we can all agree.

02:49:54.080 There's a lot of psycho guys out there these days. 0.99

02:49:56.560 Like you guys are acting like psychos. 0.90

02:49:58.180 You guys want to see just one side of everything. 0.99

02:50:00.260 There are psycho guys out there.

02:50:02.000 But to paint like.

02:50:03.580 You make it sound like it's like a large.

02:50:05.560 No, no, no, no, no.

02:50:06.600 It's not a large percentage.

02:50:07.580 But there are like this fringe group of guys.

02:50:09.820 And I don't know what it is.

02:50:10.780 I don't know if this is new to society.

02:50:12.080 But like the guys are like, I'll kill myself if you break up with me.

02:50:14.920 Like seek some help.

02:50:15.860 That's what he did at first.

02:50:17.000 Seek some help.

02:50:17.900 I know.

02:50:18.680 It's manipulative.

02:50:19.560 And everyone needs to get serious help.

02:50:22.000 If you're saying that to someone.

02:50:23.260 Because that's just manipulating somebody.

02:50:24.600 That's like so rare though.

02:50:26.380 It's not.

02:50:27.000 It's not.

02:50:27.940 It's not.

02:50:28.920 It's not that rare.

02:50:29.460 It's not that rare.

02:50:29.740 It happened to everyone at this table.

02:50:30.840 Let me just say for anyone.

02:50:32.640 My ex-girlfriend actually did. 0.95

02:50:34.220 And she got resuscitated.

02:50:35.660 So that's why he knew he could play that card on me.

02:50:37.420 So it does happen.

02:50:38.840 For anyone listening. 1.00

02:50:39.660 I think it's so fucking bullshit. 1.00

02:50:40.480 For anyone listening who finds themselves in a position where they want to kill themselves 1.00

02:50:44.640 if their significant other breaks up with them.

02:50:46.940 I just want to say to all of you guys, find purpose in your lives.

02:50:50.220 Find meaning in your lives and fulfillment beyond relationships.

02:50:53.880 It's my personal opinion.

02:50:55.080 I want to make this point for all the people out there that are struggling.

02:50:57.480 It's my personal opinion that you should be fulfilled in yourself and find joy and happiness

02:51:02.200 in your own life and completeness as a person before you get into a relationship so that

02:51:06.400 you are not emotionally dependent on the validation of that person that you're in a relationship

02:51:10.560 with.

02:51:11.280 There are a lot of people out there like that who become suicidally depressed after a breakup.

02:51:17.040 It's an unhealthy attachment too.

02:51:18.820 It is.

02:51:19.400 You have to find fulfillment in yourself as a person outside of the relationship.

02:51:23.480 And even if you're not fulfilled, just don't kill yourself because you matter.

02:51:26.780 Thank you.

02:51:27.780 We love you.

02:51:28.440 Can I say something to this point?

02:51:29.860 It's that we're arguing about like it started with do women have an easier time dating than 0.99

02:51:34.980 men? 0.67

02:51:35.600 And fundamentally men are like, this is going to sound, you know, like kind of silly, but 0.98

02:51:41.120 like fundamentally men, they are the ones that like go and they like penetrate the dating

02:51:46.680 world.

02:51:47.040 And women are the ones that look at all of their options. 1.00

02:51:49.820 You're too far from the mic.

02:51:50.800 And they receive, right?

02:51:52.660 So as a man, if you're a man and you're having struggling dating, it is entirely your

02:51:57.460 fault.

02:51:57.840 It is 100% on you.

02:52:00.380 And it's okay.

02:52:01.540 Disagree.

02:52:02.220 Disagree.

02:52:02.580 What I will say is if you're struggling dating, it is a reflection of something that's happening

02:52:07.780 in your personal life that can be improved upon.

02:52:10.220 There's a lot of guys out there who are blackpilled on their options and the fact that women don't 0.97

02:52:15.020 want them and what I would say to every man in that position, if you work on yourself and

02:52:19.380 you work on building your confidence as an individual, like the girls earlier in the

02:52:23.420 discussion said, you can, you can give off that tall man energy.

02:52:26.700 You can become very attractive despite not being conventionally physically attractive.

02:52:30.800 If you build your confidence, you build your energy, you build your value as a man.

02:52:33.980 That is something that every guy should be working on so that they can be more successful

02:52:37.960 dating.

02:52:38.340 And it's something that is within every man's grasp.

02:52:41.200 I disagree that it's a hundred percent a man's fault if he's struggling when it comes

02:52:47.760 to dating.

02:52:48.600 I mean, there are other factors.

02:52:50.260 There's a hundred percent.

02:52:51.020 I mean, feminism is one of them. 1.00

02:52:52.720 Like feminism. 1.00

02:52:53.280 Feminism is one of them because I mean, the way men used to make themselves attractive was 1.00

02:52:58.660 by being providers.

02:53:00.000 That's no longer good enough.

02:53:02.680 So men are struggling to find, I suppose, a meaning or purpose in their life because

02:53:08.280 it used to be, go provide for your family.

02:53:11.380 If you're a provider, you'll find a woman, you'll take care of her, a single income household, 1.00

02:53:16.320 you'll be the sole breadwinner.

02:53:18.200 That's how it used to be.

02:53:19.620 However, now because of feminism, and I'm not saying it's wrong, I'm not saying it's a 0.97

02:53:23.020 bad thing.

02:53:23.960 However, it's a perhaps an unintended consequence of basically doubling the labor pool.

02:53:29.640 And there's news articles, there's articles about this of women saying that there's not, 0.80

02:53:34.860 they're not able to find economically attractive partners and men are not appealing partners 0.98

02:53:41.000 from an economic and financial sense.

02:53:43.620 So that's the chief way that a lot of men made themselves attractive was, hey, just get 0.73

02:53:48.520 a job.

02:53:48.960 There'll be a woman for it. 1.00

02:53:49.720 Hold on.

02:53:49.980 Let me just finish.

02:53:50.860 Also, you have a globalized sexual marketplace.

02:53:53.860 So you have dating apps, social media, you have dating apps, social media, internet, Instagram.

02:54:02.820 So hold on, hold on.

02:54:08.840 Can you guys not talk while I'm talking, please?

02:54:11.840 Okay.

02:54:13.040 So you have globalized sexual marketplace where in the past, a woman used to have, if she 1.00

02:54:18.780 lived in Idaho, her pool of partners was in her city in Idaho.

02:54:23.660 Now a woman can hop on Instagram, hop on the dating app, match with people within a hundred 1.00

02:54:28.400 mile radius.

02:54:30.160 She can get DMs.

02:54:31.800 Guys don't get DMs like this.

02:54:33.420 She can get DM by NFL players.

02:54:35.340 She can get DM by this guy, this music producer, this actor, this famous athlete, whatever it

02:54:41.460 may be.

02:54:41.980 They'll fly her out to Miami.

02:54:45.000 They'll fly her to Vegas. 0.57

02:54:47.180 They'll fly her to LA.

02:54:48.360 They'll fly her to Dubai.

02:54:49.820 So you basically have women who have basically mind boggling amount of options. 1.00

02:54:56.660 Whereas even an average woman, you guys said, even a woman with 2000 followers on Instagram

02:55:01.220 has these blue check marks in her DMs.

02:55:04.220 So women have such an insanely disproportionate amount of options, which they can now exercise 1.00

02:55:13.620 on, let's say, and men simply don't have that.

02:55:18.520 And so men are-

02:55:19.480 Last thing, last thing.

02:55:20.340 So also with the dating apps, it's purely physical and the data has been out there for

02:55:26.280 years now.

02:55:27.460 Women swipe on like less than what? 1.00

02:55:29.920 10% of guys.

02:55:30.760 Women are all chasing after the same 10% of men on dating apps. 1.00

02:55:35.080 Women already did that before dating apps, you know, like women, hypergamy, women would 1.00

02:55:41.040 be chasing after the best guys at college, the best guys here, the best guys there.

02:55:45.640 But now with digital, now with Instagram, now with dating apps, it's like hyper insane.

02:55:52.140 So basically you have a much higher proportion of men who are getting zeroed out, who have no

02:55:57.520 options, who are just like normal average dudes, some of them between say normal average to

02:56:02.720 like even good looking dudes are getting zeroed out because they're all chasing after these

02:56:06.940 top percentage of men.

02:56:08.360 Yes.

02:56:08.840 So, so for that reason, it's really not men's fault, I think.

02:56:14.240 Okay.

02:56:15.500 I hear you.

02:56:16.740 Women have, have overinflated egos after downloading apps with the advent of social media and dudes 1.00

02:56:24.520 sliding into their DMs, they see, wow, I'm really actually a hot girl.

02:56:28.300 That's worth this much.

02:56:30.500 You, you have to look at, you know, are they getting fulfilling relationships?

02:56:35.160 No, no.

02:56:36.120 They're probably just getting smashed and passed.

02:56:38.640 But with that being said, my point still stands and I stand by it that if you're a man,

02:56:44.680 you don't have any time to sit around and say, woe is me, pity me, because you're not 0.99

02:56:51.300 getting dates because of whatever reason, like as a man, you need to go out and fuck 1.00

02:56:56.040 the world. 0.99

02:56:57.040 You need to go out and like make yourself the best possible man that you can be from wherever

02:57:02.840 you're starting.

02:57:03.620 And I understand that it's hard, but if you sit around and complain and focus on all the

02:57:07.400 negative reasons why you can't get a date, then you are going to continue to see that

02:57:11.020 show up in your life rather than going into Trader Joe's and looking confused, which is

02:57:15.340 what you should be doing.

02:57:16.500 You should try and improve upon yourself.

02:57:18.620 And my point was simply that as a man, a lot of guys just aren't putting in the work.

02:57:24.560 And myself included in the past, like there are times when I get lazy and when I become

02:57:29.880 complacent and when I'm not doing the things that I need to be doing.

02:57:33.360 And when I'm completely on top of my stuff, like women, they just come into my life naturally. 0.99

02:57:38.320 And my advice to any man is that there's hope.

02:57:43.820 Like you evaluate yourself realistically and do the best that you can do because that's

02:57:49.220 your only option.

02:57:50.400 There's no option to just sit around and complain that dating has become harder because women's 1.00

02:57:55.600 egos are inflated by social media and by dating apps, even though that's true.

02:58:01.860 Martin donated $200.

02:58:04.500 Thank you, Mark Cavias.

02:58:05.640 I'm bringing in the money today.

02:58:07.520 He's kind of like, you're on a roll.

02:58:10.020 I'll fly you home for the holidays so you can breathe in the loving arms of your family.

02:58:15.400 And in a matter of years, you will barely think of me every day.

02:58:19.620 Kiko, be less narcissistic. 0.92

02:58:21.540 I love being a narcissist. 0.96

02:58:22.640 But that's the thing.

02:58:23.180 You talked about his girlfriend in the last one.

02:58:25.500 You don't have a girlfriend.

02:58:27.260 I will guarantee right now you don't. 1.00

02:58:29.080 And if she did, if you do, she should slap the fuck out of you for spending $600 so far 0.99

02:58:33.700 on this podcast. 1.00

02:58:34.560 Like, I'm sure you don't.

02:58:37.100 Like, get your girlfriend a new bag or something.

02:58:41.180 Objection.

02:58:41.500 Don't send it to the show.

02:58:42.500 Send it to me.

02:58:43.480 Send it to my cat shop.

02:58:44.560 Send it to me.

02:58:45.780 Mark Cavias is a stud.

02:58:46.800 Send it to the cat shelter.

02:58:48.000 Mark Cavias is a legend.

02:58:49.120 And yeah, so just to finish my point, you can't allow yourself as a man to have excuses.

02:58:57.780 You cannot allow yourself to have excuses for why you can't go and find a date because

02:59:03.400 then you're just not going to go out and find a date.

02:59:05.740 The odds are that these men, they're probably lacking in something.

02:59:08.840 They're probably not interesting.

02:59:11.360 They're probably lack conversation skills.

02:59:13.680 There's a small, I like to believe that there's a small majority of men that have really committed

02:59:18.320 themselves to improving upon themselves as best as they possibly can in their financial

02:59:22.560 life, in their social life, in their physical fitness, and still aren't getting even a single

02:59:28.520 date with women.

02:59:29.720 And if that's true, you have to look at yourself realistically.

02:59:32.020 You have to rate yourself out of 10 and say, look, I'm 5'8", therefore I'm a 7.

02:59:37.300 Sam, I raised you this question.

02:59:38.860 Do you think that's really only a male thing?

02:59:40.640 Or do you think that's a society thing that people are just lazier these days in a sense?

02:59:44.540 And like, is that only men that aren't pushing themselves to be the best of themselves?

02:59:47.960 Because I think that message could apply to every single person.

02:59:50.500 That's a really, really good point, Debra, because women, and to Brian's point, that women

02:59:56.300 have overinflated egos because of social media and because of the apps, they're not putting

03:00:01.040 in any effort, right?

03:00:02.000 They're not creating a personality for themselves.

03:00:04.340 I know girls who just swipe through Hinge and they're like, okay, I'm down, I'm down. 1.00

03:00:07.360 But what's the point of wasting, this is a little bit larger thing, but I don't understand

03:00:10.900 the point of wasting time.

03:00:12.660 I've personally never gone on a date with somebody from an app.

03:00:14.960 I have a hard time connecting.

03:00:17.680 Like, if meeting somebody on an app, I could never imagine myself meeting them in real life.

03:00:21.020 That's just, it's very important for me to meet people in person, sense their energy.

03:00:24.700 But I know friends who just do it for fun, and I feel like, do you agree or disagree

03:00:28.940 that at a certain point, if you're just dating to date in a way, like you're not being selective,

03:00:33.920 is that more harmful or helpful to your long-term goal?

03:00:36.540 It's certainly harmful, especially for women. 1.00

03:00:38.400 A lot of women waste their 20s just hooking up with all the chads, and then their 30s come 1.00

03:00:43.480 around and they're like, yo, I want to settle down with a good guy.

03:00:45.900 But it's like, yo, the good guys that you would want to settle down with, they're not

03:00:48.880 interested in a woman who wasted her 20s just hooking up with all the guys.

03:00:51.880 They want oftentimes a younger woman with less baggage. 1.00

03:00:54.740 To your point a second ago, too, there's, I think, one of the reasons why a lot of people

03:01:00.660 are frustrated with the dating world is because a lot of people aren't bringing much to the

03:01:04.480 table, guys and women included, right?

03:01:06.360 There's a lot of women out there. 1.00

03:01:07.400 All they're bringing to the table is their body and their time, right?

03:01:10.560 They wouldn't necessarily make a great wife or a great girlfriend.

03:01:14.760 And to your guys' points before about men, like, there's a lot of men out there who,

03:01:18.860 you know, like Sam was saying, they're making excuses for themselves, and they're not, like,

03:01:22.540 working hard on themselves to build their value as men, right?

03:01:25.280 And to all of the guys out there, like, there's a lot of black-pilled dudes out there. 0.75

03:01:30.180 Every man has it within his capacity to work on his career.

03:01:34.100 And yes, there's a lot of feminists out there that, like, you know, they're rejecting, like, 1.00

03:01:38.200 I don't want a male provider. 0.99

03:01:39.160 But every man has it within his capacity to work on his career, to get in the gym, and

03:01:44.560 to, like Sam does, practice a martial art.

03:01:47.660 And when guys do these things, it builds your energy and your confidence so much.

03:01:51.760 When you build your value as a man, every guy has it within his capacity to do those

03:01:56.200 things.

03:01:56.580 And it changes the way women look at you. 1.00

03:01:59.040 You guys should be doing that.

03:02:00.500 Yes.

03:02:00.960 Amen, man.

03:02:01.660 Can I ask you a question, though?

03:02:02.700 Real quick.

03:02:03.180 Can I respond to Debra's point?

03:02:04.780 I think that, you know, like you were saying, women, they need to improve upon themselves, 0.93

03:02:11.360 too.

03:02:11.540 And maybe they're lacking social skills, too.

03:02:13.440 Or whatever they need to succeed in the dating world.

03:02:16.500 And that is because they're getting validation from the apps.

03:02:22.080 If you're on the apps and you're a woman, I've been on the apps.

03:02:25.460 I'm not afraid to admit it.

03:02:26.620 A lot of women just don't respond. 1.00

03:02:29.080 Or, you know, it's like, why did you like my profile if you don't want to go out on a

03:02:32.500 date with me?

03:02:33.280 Yeah.

03:02:33.440 Like, I'm selective about the women that I swipe on. 0.82

03:02:35.820 I don't just look at them for their body or whatever.

03:02:39.680 I actually am looking at, you know, could we be a potential match?

03:02:43.120 And when I swipe on them, I'd like to take them out to coffee and, like, meet them for

03:02:47.540 an hour and see if we're actually going to click.

03:02:49.400 Because, like I said previously, my energy is different online than it is in person when

03:02:54.600 you're looking into my eyes.

03:02:56.060 And as a man, you need to go and do that.

03:02:58.480 And so, but as a woman, women, you make a good point. 0.99

03:03:01.620 Women are getting too much validation from the apps. 1.00

03:03:04.200 They go and they swipe and they're like, yeah, I'm wanted and loved.

03:03:06.480 And then they do nothing.

03:03:07.700 Right?

03:03:08.140 That's right.

03:03:08.600 I mean, you say that women need to self-improve. 0.67

03:03:12.000 You're not wrong.

03:03:12.860 However, the difference is, is that women need not self-improve to get laid, to get a 1.00

03:03:19.460 partner, to get a boyfriend.

03:03:22.140 Yeah. 0.97

03:03:22.260 That's why it's just so fucking easy for women. 1.00

03:03:24.880 My response to that would be that there is no fulfillment in hookup culture. 1.00

03:03:30.080 There is no fulfillment in just fucking someone. 1.00

03:03:33.360 Trust me. 1.00

03:03:33.960 I've done it.

03:03:34.660 It's not fulfilling.

03:03:35.880 It's not something that I want.

03:03:37.460 Once you do it, you might think you're hot.

03:03:39.640 You might feel better.

03:03:40.520 You might have a little bit more confidence for the next person, but it is completely a

03:03:45.100 waste of your time and your money.

03:03:47.440 And especially if you're a young woman, you don't have time. 0.94

03:03:50.640 You need to find the guy now.

03:03:52.160 If you're in your 20s, you need to find, and you are serious about wanting to get married,

03:03:57.660 you need to start getting really serious about the person that you're dating and the time

03:04:01.560 that you're spending.

03:04:02.440 And I want to add a caveat on that because I've spoken with a lot of women recently who 1.00

03:04:06.420 are in their late 20s, early 30s who feel like they have no value because they're in

03:04:10.980 their late 20s and early 30s.

03:04:12.600 I know dudes in their 30s that are looking for you women. 1.00

03:04:15.280 Don't think that you don't have any value because you haven't found a guy by the time you're

03:04:18.920 in your late 20s.

03:04:19.560 However, Sam's point is still correct in the sense that it is a bad idea to waste your

03:04:24.500 20s just having fun and then hope to settle down with the best guy possible in your early

03:04:28.900 30s.

03:04:29.420 That is a bad idea.

03:04:30.560 And a lot of people, a lot of women, I've got a lot of friends from high school, they 1.00

03:04:34.840 fall into that trap.

03:04:35.720 They think they can just bang all the chads through their 20s and then settle down in

03:04:39.060 their late 20s, early 30s.

03:04:40.400 Doesn't work like that, ladies. 1.00

03:04:42.600 But that's to say, women in your late 20s and early 30s, you are not valueless. 0.99

03:04:46.920 Can I propose a question?

03:04:48.420 Yes.

03:04:48.680 And we can skip it if you guys don't care.

03:04:49.900 Actually, I know you can't.

03:04:51.000 Sorry, Sam.

03:04:52.460 So you guys brought up earlier about how you guys think feminism is hurting everything.

03:04:56.680 How we know feminism is hurting. 0.99

03:04:58.080 Sure.

03:04:58.420 I'm not disagreeing.

03:04:59.120 I'm not disagreeing.

03:04:59.800 Hold on.

03:04:59.820 Before your question.

03:05:00.440 Martin donated $200.

03:05:02.920 Kiko, my own construction goes across the southeast.

03:05:06.820 Hundreds of employees.

03:05:08.780 Brian protects my anonymity with Quizno's story.

03:05:12.300 And my girlfriend is easily a nine. 1.00

03:05:15.180 Brian has the proof in an email.

03:05:17.140 Don't get upset because $1,000 is not even a half day's wages for me.

03:05:22.740 Hey, spend your money how you want to.

03:05:25.640 But calling your girlfriend a nine is outrageous.

03:05:28.500 So you just...

03:05:29.200 That's a...

03:05:30.080 You just called yourself a 10, though.

03:05:31.900 That's why I'm...

03:05:32.360 Is that not outrageous?

03:05:33.280 No, he's saying...

03:05:33.940 I'm saying to call your own spouse or girlfriend anything less than a 10 is outrageous.

03:05:38.300 Oh, no.

03:05:38.540 My boyfriend sent a chat earlier.

03:05:40.440 He said that I was...

03:05:41.900 He gave the different ratings for the different parts of the day.

03:05:44.060 And I thought it was completely accurate.

03:05:45.740 Different parts of the day?

03:05:46.740 Yes.

03:05:47.160 Like when I wake up?

03:05:47.740 Like in the morning?

03:05:48.700 Yeah, like when I wake up.

03:05:50.100 When you put your makeup on, you're at five.

03:05:51.600 When you take off your clothes, go to sleep.

03:05:53.880 You're at 10.

03:05:55.380 Eric, we'll come back.

03:05:57.740 Kiko, we'll come back to your question.

03:05:59.220 It's fine.

03:05:59.620 I'm going to go pee.

03:06:00.200 He's the best.

03:06:00.540 She's got to go pee. 0.93

03:06:02.420 Really quick before you go pee.

03:06:04.260 Really quick on the 10 thing.

03:06:05.520 Oh, my boyfriend responded, by the way.

03:06:06.820 What did he say?

03:06:07.560 Oh, we've been waiting.

03:06:08.580 About what?

03:06:08.880 Two and a half hours.

03:06:10.060 He asked me to text my boyfriend what he would rate himself on a scale of 1 to 10.

03:06:13.040 Okay.

03:06:13.460 Quick guess first.

03:06:14.280 Looks.

03:06:14.600 Yeah.

03:06:15.000 Quick guess.

03:06:15.600 Brian guessed.

03:06:16.180 Oh, I don't think he did.

03:06:18.740 Into the mic, Kiko.

03:06:19.720 I don't know if he only was doing looks.

03:06:22.460 But what do you guys think he said?

03:06:23.720 What do you think?

03:06:24.340 Rating you or himself?

03:06:25.080 Rating you?

03:06:25.640 Himself, right?

03:06:26.400 You want him to be himself.

03:06:27.620 If he's the type of man that I would assume from what you've told me about him, he'd be

03:06:31.140 like, I'm an effing 11, no cap.

03:06:33.360 Nah.

03:06:34.600 That's why my boyfriend is.

03:06:36.340 Humble.

03:06:36.840 I think he's humble.

03:06:37.680 We aren't similar in a lot of ways.

03:06:39.200 That's why I think we work.

03:06:40.500 We just know how to agree on our differences.

03:06:42.280 What did he rate himself?

03:06:43.000 What did he rate himself?

03:06:43.660 He said.

03:06:46.180 He said nine.

03:06:47.540 Always room for improvement.

03:06:48.840 Ah, he's like us.

03:06:50.540 A humble man.

03:06:51.140 He's just like us.

03:06:51.520 Okay.

03:06:52.040 Humble.

03:06:52.380 There we go.

03:06:52.900 No, 10.

03:06:53.780 Thank you.

03:06:54.700 All right.

03:06:55.060 He's a 20.

03:06:56.180 Really quick, Kiko, since he's already gone to the bathroom.

03:06:58.960 Eric, pull up just really quick.

03:07:00.340 Just so many have you sniped that, dude.

03:07:02.400 I have to be so fast.

03:07:03.800 Sam distracted you with the question and then dipped.

03:07:07.060 Classic.

03:07:08.260 Instagram.

03:07:09.560 My man.

03:07:11.240 The attractive women, let's say. 1.00

03:07:14.640 Oh, my question.

03:07:15.360 I forgot.

03:07:16.180 Okay.

03:07:18.300 So these are some.

03:07:19.800 I don't know.

03:07:20.540 I don't know if they're tense, but they're very attractive women. 1.00

03:07:23.840 They're attractive to you, right?

03:07:25.400 Scroll down.

03:07:25.720 Who is this?

03:07:26.780 Scroll down.

03:07:27.420 Are these all different people? 1.00

03:07:29.220 Oh, what the fuck? 1.00

03:07:29.960 We got Wolfie Cindy's. 1.00

03:07:32.740 Sure.

03:07:33.380 Okay.

03:07:33.660 Keep scrolling.

03:07:34.620 Are these ones you saved or other men?

03:07:36.780 All these girls have FaceApp on. 1.00

03:07:39.040 First of all.

03:07:39.800 Somebody recently showed me a picture.

03:07:41.260 I was like, I know that preset on FaceApp.

03:07:42.980 She's so pretty.

03:07:44.380 I'm like, is she?

03:07:45.200 Why is it her own?

03:07:46.280 Why is it her own?

03:07:46.920 Bro.

03:07:47.280 That girl looks 14 years old in a blue bikini. 0.98

03:07:49.900 In the blue?

03:07:51.140 Yeah.

03:07:51.580 On the top right.

03:07:53.280 Scroll down.

03:07:53.440 That girl looks underage. 1.00

03:07:54.660 She looks like an American girl doll.

03:07:55.920 Like all these girls look 18 or like they're using heavy photoshop. 0.62

03:07:59.740 That looks like a guy.

03:08:01.000 That looks like a guy.

03:08:01.900 That looks good.

03:08:03.340 Pause, pause, pause.

03:08:04.000 The sperm brows.

03:08:04.760 What's her name?

03:08:06.740 These are actresses. 1.00

03:08:07.540 Look at those eyebrows.

03:08:08.500 They're super, super thin.

03:08:09.740 That's Stacey Dash.

03:08:10.600 With a little round at the end.

03:08:11.500 Stacey Dash.

03:08:12.120 She looks normal.

03:08:13.020 Opposite of my eyebrows.

03:08:14.040 They look fine.

03:08:14.700 The other girls all look underage or like they're using heavy photoshop. 0.95

03:08:17.320 Kristen Kruwek.

03:08:18.420 Kristen Kruwek from Smallville.

03:08:20.040 Yeah.

03:08:20.180 She's okay.

03:08:21.380 So these are some attractive women, right? 1.00

03:08:24.020 Still a 10?

03:08:24.560 Yes.

03:08:25.820 I feel like you could put one of my pictures up there and you could scroll right by them.

03:08:30.680 You can call me delusional all you want.

03:08:31.900 And it's not because I'm saying, oh, people DM me.

03:08:34.340 People message me.

03:08:35.160 It's how I get reacted to on a daily basis.

03:08:38.220 I can't walk.

03:08:39.280 Sorry. 1.00

03:08:39.580 Call me a fucking narcissist. 1.00

03:08:40.780 Whatever you want. 1.00

03:08:41.780 Anywhere I go, makeup or not, I'm having at least on a 30 minute outing about 10 different

03:08:47.020 women coming up to me. 0.97

03:08:48.640 That's what I take it off of.

03:08:49.800 Not how men think of me, but how many women. 0.72

03:08:52.160 I agree with her honestly to the floor.

03:08:53.960 I have a lot of women. 1.00

03:08:54.940 Compliments and women hit different. 1.00

03:08:55.880 Exactly.

03:08:56.980 Anytime.

03:08:57.580 This is all cap.

03:08:58.240 Anytime I go out, I have at least 10 to 20 different women telling me how pretty and 1.00

03:09:02.540 attractive I am to them.

03:09:03.640 This is so cap.

03:09:04.100 I, that's fine.

03:09:05.620 It took me a long time to get here.

03:09:07.340 Wait, what?

03:09:07.620 The first time I went on this podcast, I called myself a seven, but I've realized. 1.00

03:09:11.520 Shut the fuck up. 1.00

03:09:12.800 I'm going to go out there. 1.00

03:09:14.520 I feel like it's...

03:09:15.620 Wait, I have a question I was going to ask her, but now I'll just ask everybody else.

03:09:19.120 Do you, this is mostly for the girls and then the guys can like give their opinions.

03:09:22.200 Do you feel prettier and hotter both when you dress more risque or more modest feminine 1.00

03:09:28.140 vibes?

03:09:28.660 Modest feminine. 1.00

03:09:29.780 For sure. 1.00

03:09:30.160 I feel like a, like a boss ass bitch. 1.00

03:09:32.520 Can I be honest? 1.00

03:09:33.300 Yeah.

03:09:33.440 Like when, like, cause I mean, like this is my thotty outfit.

03:09:36.260 Like who cares?

03:09:36.840 You know, I love it.

03:09:37.500 It's fun.

03:09:38.140 But when I'm in like, let's see a blazer, a cute, like little professional long sleeve,

03:09:42.740 it's like, I, on top of feeling beautiful, I feel like almost powerful.

03:09:46.620 I love dressing.

03:09:47.920 You know?

03:09:48.560 Yeah.

03:09:49.240 Yeah.

03:09:50.060 How about you?

03:09:50.860 I would agree with that.

03:09:51.680 All right.

03:09:52.060 Um, let's, uh, Eric, can you pull up the, uh, the Twitch really quick?

03:09:55.360 Then we'll, we need to move.

03:09:56.560 Oh, AB check.

03:10:00.200 Thank you for the big, uh, 20 gifted memberships.

03:10:04.720 Thank you, man.

03:10:05.500 Appreciate it very much.

03:10:07.040 Um, can you pull which yo, thank you guys.

03:10:10.200 Uh, go to twitch.tv slash whatever.

03:10:11.860 Drop us a follow.

03:10:12.460 Drop us a prime sub.

03:10:13.740 Uh, AC Noel.

03:10:14.960 Think for the prime homes.

03:10:16.600 Think for the prime.

03:10:17.280 Only toes.

03:10:17.700 Think for the prime.

03:10:18.360 Chewy.

03:10:18.580 Think for the prime.

03:10:19.760 Uh, yo L cap.

03:10:21.160 Think for the follow.

03:10:22.480 Depressive.

03:10:23.120 Think for the follow.

03:10:24.900 Uh, did I say chewy?

03:10:26.620 Yeah.

03:10:26.900 Chewy.

03:10:27.200 Thank for the prime.

03:10:27.980 Cis op.

03:10:29.040 Daddy Kesper.

03:10:29.960 Thank you for the follow.

03:10:31.420 Um, and then we have, uh, Iceman.

03:10:34.600 Thank you for the follow.

03:10:35.280 Just reading a couple of the follows.

03:10:36.320 Thank you guys.

03:10:36.860 Oh, feed Olympics.

03:10:37.920 Thank you for the prime.

03:10:38.540 I appreciate it.

03:10:39.740 Okay.

03:10:39.980 And then we got a, uh, super chat.

03:10:41.820 Let me get caught up super quick on the soup chat.

03:10:43.860 I just, while you pull that up, I just want to add one thing.

03:10:46.120 Debra, I think modest women, it's so attractive. 0.92

03:10:49.540 Rip.

03:10:50.100 Can someone just push that back?

03:10:51.420 What was that?

03:10:51.880 Can one, you just push that back?

03:10:52.660 I think it makes you feel more like a woman.

03:10:54.540 It's so, it's so attractive.

03:10:55.540 I feel the same when I'm in a modest, like long dress.

03:10:58.480 I'm like, wow.

03:10:59.360 I'm feel like I'm on top of the world.

03:11:01.000 But that's something that I think came with age.

03:11:02.840 When I was younger, I felt cooler in a crop top.

03:11:05.140 And then I reached a certain point.

03:11:05.840 Wait, Eric, were there more gifted?

03:11:07.040 No.

03:11:07.400 Okay.

03:11:07.640 I want to add on to that, like, something you say that comes with age.

03:11:10.760 Like, as I'm getting older, because I'm still 23, I just feel like I'm about to turn 24.

03:11:14.800 But I feel like in the last year or so, like, my style is, like, ever so changing when it comes to confidence.

03:11:21.080 Mainly because, like, compared to when I was, like, 21 or 22.

03:11:23.660 Chase, why are you laughing?

03:11:25.460 Chase, why are you laughing?

03:11:27.460 I'm not laughing, dude.

03:11:29.040 Did you read the...

03:11:30.460 Nothing.

03:11:31.280 Sorry, he's laughing.

03:11:31.920 Please continue.

03:11:32.680 He's laughing at the chat.

03:11:34.420 21, 22.

03:11:35.260 Please continue.

03:11:36.020 How dare you, Chase?

03:11:37.340 Please continue, as you were saying.

03:11:39.240 Cool.

03:11:40.980 No, just, like, basically saying that, like, compared to when I was younger, like, let's say I'm wearing, like, a little black slip dress and, you know, like, a little wedge to the club with a YSL bag.

03:11:49.920 That would make me feel pretty.

03:11:51.500 But, like, as I'm getting older, it's, like, almost like when I cover up, it's, like, you feel more beautiful.

03:11:56.320 But I guess that's something that comes with age.

03:11:58.140 And, like, I feel like a lot of younger girls...

03:11:59.440 Yeah, like, in high school, you're just going to want to wear what every other girl wears. 0.99

03:12:02.540 Like, a crop top and, like, some booty shorts or whatever.

03:12:06.000 Can I specifically ask this to you?

03:12:07.440 We totally don't have to speak about it if you're uncomfortable.

03:12:09.460 But what age did you start identifying as a woman? 0.95

03:12:12.620 Can I be honest?

03:12:13.720 I have always known.

03:12:15.500 Like, I never knew the word for it, if I'm being honest.

03:12:18.760 Like, growing up, I didn't know what trans was.

03:12:21.160 I didn't know those things.

03:12:22.140 So, like, anything that grasped on the femininity, that was me.

03:12:26.600 You know, like, anything...

03:12:27.760 I put a towel over my head, that was my hair.

03:12:29.960 Like, I would...

03:12:31.020 Literally, my mom and my parents, like, when they would have their night outings that were babysitters would come over,

03:12:34.980 I'd steal my mom's heels. 0.78

03:12:36.260 Like, femininity, for me, is something that's always been 100% natural and not forced.

03:12:41.500 So, I believe, I think it was, like, 14, 15, was when I discovered what trans was.

03:12:51.440 You know?

03:12:52.000 And I was like, oh, my God, like, wait, I'm not a drag queen.

03:12:54.820 Because at first, I thought I was a drag queen.

03:12:56.880 Because I didn't know what trans was.

03:12:58.880 I didn't know that there was a name for it.

03:13:00.060 I just knew that I was more than that.

03:13:02.760 And then, I guess, like I said, as I got older, then I started changing my makeup.

03:13:06.640 I let my hair grow out, and I fully started living as a woman, and I was at the age of, like, 18, 19, I want to say.

03:13:13.020 I started letting my hair grow out.

03:13:14.640 I started experimenting more with my clothing, et cetera.

03:13:18.760 Sorry.

03:13:21.700 Is your friend good?

03:13:22.680 It sounds like you're saying a lot of jokes there.

03:13:24.580 I don't know. 0.99

03:13:25.240 The chat was saying some ridiculous shit, so they were, I think... 1.00

03:13:28.960 Okay. 1.00

03:13:29.280 I'm trying to drag.

03:13:30.560 I just want everybody to know.

03:13:32.360 Sometimes you have maturity to be able to read something and keep it in.

03:13:35.300 I don't know whose that was.

03:13:37.180 I almost vomited.

03:13:39.540 AED 750.

03:13:41.620 Looking at Kiko.

03:13:46.760 Looking at...

03:13:47.420 Do you want to read this one, Kiko?

03:13:48.420 Yeah.

03:13:48.960 Looking at Kiko and the way she behaves slash reacts. 0.91

03:13:51.640 It appears she's an actual six, downgraded to a five.

03:13:55.140 Masculinity and woman is a man repellent. 1.00

03:13:57.220 I can guess what her BF is like now.

03:13:59.820 Honestly, you guys would have no idea what my boyfriend is like.

03:14:03.520 You wouldn't have the slightest.

03:14:05.300 You're a really good, like, reader.

03:14:07.040 Thank you.

03:14:07.460 I like the emotion.

03:14:08.780 The narration.

03:14:09.920 Thank you.

03:14:10.700 Thank you.

03:14:11.180 Do you want to read this one, Kiko?

03:14:12.540 Yeah.

03:14:13.340 Getting women who are not ran through in the USA justifies seeking young ones, no matter 1.00

03:14:17.860 what Kiko or any girl says.

03:14:19.680 Can you...

03:14:20.040 Hold on.

03:14:20.340 Hold on, Kiko. 0.67

03:14:21.400 Please, Debra. 0.99

03:14:22.340 Shut the fuck up when somebody else is talking. 1.00

03:14:25.300 This entire fucking show, your fucking sidebar conversations with Billy Ray, sidebar conversations 1.00

03:14:31.440 with Sam over here. 1.00

03:14:33.460 I would be quiet. 0.99

03:14:33.760 Shut the fuck up, please. 1.00

03:14:35.500 Go ahead, Kiko. 1.00

03:14:36.240 All right.

03:14:36.740 I'm glad you said that to me because I would have reacted a little differently.

03:14:40.020 Getting women who are not ran through in the USA justifies seeking young ones, no matter 1.00

03:14:45.040 what Kiko or any other girl says, in other parts of the world, you will still get high 0.95

03:14:49.940 value women until the age of 30, i.e. less than three body count.

03:14:55.660 Did we do everyone's body count yet, Brian?

03:14:58.820 I said mine already.

03:15:00.360 Let's do it.

03:15:01.400 Let's do it.

03:15:02.120 Let's do it.

03:15:03.620 Let's do it.

03:15:04.840 Kiko.

03:15:05.600 What's your body count?

03:15:06.500 12.

03:15:06.940 12 with both genders.

03:15:08.240 12. 1.00

03:15:08.700 Fuck yeah. 1.00

03:15:09.420 Okay. 1.00

03:15:09.720 Wait, 12 with girls and 12 guys?

03:15:11.800 No, like combined.

03:15:12.900 Why not?

03:15:13.160 Why would you answer it?

03:15:13.920 Because that's my private business.

03:15:15.780 That's fair.

03:15:16.300 We could just make it public business.

03:15:18.800 Oh my God.

03:15:20.560 I'm sure you'd like that.

03:15:21.780 I like seeing my body count because most people assume my body count's like a lot higher.

03:15:26.100 Are you hitting on me right now?

03:15:27.700 No, I'm being sarcastic.

03:15:30.300 What's your body count?

03:15:31.900 I'm going to pass on that.

03:15:34.260 Allie.

03:15:35.300 But I have a boyfriend, so I think you can assume at least one.

03:15:38.580 Okay.

03:15:39.220 Okay.

03:15:39.560 Thank you for that.

03:15:41.100 Okay.

03:15:41.520 Eight.

03:15:42.260 Eight?

03:15:43.160 Eight.

03:15:44.360 Did you say seven last?

03:15:46.140 No, I think you said eight last time.

03:15:47.160 No, I said eight last time.

03:15:48.820 Billy Ray?

03:15:50.100 Out of respect for my boyfriend, I would never speak about my sexual life publicly.

03:15:55.860 To second that, of respect for myself, I don't think anyone you're not in a sexual relationship

03:16:00.280 with or even in a relationship has a right to know that, and I will happily decline.

03:16:05.400 Are you embarrassed of the number?

03:16:06.260 Not at all, but even if it was one, even if it was a hundred, I still think that sexual 0.67

03:16:10.400 conversation should be reserved for the person you're in a relationship with, not the internet.

03:16:14.440 But it's like, don't you expect that when you come on a dating, this is a dating podcast.

03:16:17.860 Yeah, but I'm not looking to date y'all.

03:16:19.800 Oh, true.

03:16:20.400 Yeah.

03:16:20.580 W's in the chat for Kiko for actually being open and willing to share.

03:16:25.900 This happens every time.

03:16:26.820 I'm the only one who's willing to share, but I have no problem with sharing that.

03:16:31.040 I want to see Wiko in the chat.

03:16:32.280 I think to each their own.

03:16:32.720 I mean, honestly, I know a lot of people will look at me and how I dress or my bartending.

03:16:37.760 They assume my body count is a hundred plus, so I'm very open with saying that I've been

03:16:41.420 with...

03:16:41.760 Multiply it by three, and that's the real number.

03:16:44.760 If that was the case, I just wouldn't even say my body count would kill everyone.

03:16:47.760 I was scapegoats out of it, but I have no, no shame of sleeping with seven men and five

03:16:53.760 different women in my 23 years of life.

03:16:55.760 I don't think it's a shame.

03:16:56.620 And my boyfriend is too.

03:16:57.440 Sam, what's your body count?

03:16:58.360 It's honestly, Brian, I've lost count, but it's somewhere between 20 and 25.

03:17:06.840 Okay.

03:17:07.400 All right.

03:17:08.480 I've already answered it.

03:17:09.520 Seven.

03:17:10.020 Seven.

03:17:10.600 Okay.

03:17:11.440 And I'd like to add that I'm not proud of that.

03:17:14.880 That's a product of being on the apps, trying to find a girl, and just kind of capitulating

03:17:21.860 to my fleshly desires.

03:17:24.100 And as a man of God, a reformed man of God, I am looking for my wife at this point.

03:17:31.280 And I'm not...

03:17:32.340 I am, like Kiko would say, a born-again virgin.

03:17:34.780 Deborah, question for you.

03:17:35.840 Wait.

03:17:36.120 Allow me to just say, I have been saving myself from my wife for the past three years and will 0.93

03:17:41.960 continue to do so and will not be having sexual intercourse until my wedding night. 0.83

03:17:46.460 Thank you very much. 0.94

03:17:48.400 Word.

03:17:49.140 Wait.

03:17:49.440 Really quick, I have a question for Deborah.

03:17:51.060 I have a question for Chase and Kiko.

03:17:54.220 What do you guys think?

03:17:56.020 Is this for all three of us?

03:17:57.500 Huh?

03:17:57.900 Is this for all three of us?

03:17:58.860 Just you two for this first one, then I have a question for Deborah.

03:18:02.480 Would you guys go, like if it was a reality show produced by whatever, where you guys went

03:18:10.500 on a date, would you guys do that?

03:18:14.500 No.

03:18:15.240 I would never go on a date with another man other than my boyfriend.

03:18:18.660 Let's say you're single.

03:18:19.580 Say you're single.

03:18:20.700 How much are you offering here?

03:18:21.860 Yeah, if I'm getting paid, I can be anywhere.

03:18:24.100 You guys can go to Hibachi, first off, on the house.

03:18:27.760 Okay.

03:18:28.400 Hibachi.

03:18:28.880 This is not...

03:18:29.600 You've got to sweeten the deal.

03:18:30.620 That's not...

03:18:30.900 I could go there by myself.

03:18:31.920 Okay.

03:18:32.420 And not subject myself to headaches.

03:18:34.720 Well, maybe she's perfectly pleasant on a first date. 0.99

03:18:38.200 Okay, go on.

03:18:39.400 How much are you offering?

03:18:40.160 $300 each.

03:18:41.520 Yeah.

03:18:42.320 I'd go.

03:18:42.940 $300,000?

03:18:44.020 No, $300.

03:18:44.440 I'd go for $300,000 because I feel like we...

03:18:46.920 Me, personally, I'm willing to come to a middle ground and also change my opinions on certain

03:18:50.920 things, so I have no problem having an arrangement with somebody else that differs differently

03:18:55.820 than me.

03:18:56.100 Maybe I can learn something.

03:18:57.260 You're very close-minded, Chase.

03:18:58.940 No.

03:18:59.340 My time is worth more than that.

03:19:02.260 $350?

03:19:03.200 About $350?

03:19:04.160 Make it a grand, and then we'll start talking.

03:19:06.400 Okay, fair enough.

03:19:07.060 Debra, so with the body count thing, you said that it's not appropriate for whatever.

03:19:11.380 That's fine.

03:19:12.500 Hold on a second.

03:19:14.500 If you scrounge up the funds, make it two grand, and then we'll start talking.

03:19:19.280 It's not worth it.

03:19:20.180 Start an OnlyFans.

03:19:21.100 Okay, so maybe we could fan fund it.

03:19:24.600 Would you guys like to see that, like a little...

03:19:26.540 Nah, the podcast content.

03:19:27.600 I will go on a date with Tico.

03:19:29.640 Tico.

03:19:31.500 He doesn't even know her name.

03:19:33.580 I will go on a date with Kiko.

03:19:36.200 I will go on a date with Kiko for a YouTube video for two grand if you crowd fund it.

03:19:42.220 And then $300,000 for Kiko?

03:19:43.760 No.

03:19:44.220 Is this a startup?

03:19:45.340 If he gets two grand, I get $25,000.

03:19:47.300 Okay, so Debra, if let's say a guy you were on a first date with, or it's private, you're

03:19:54.580 not on a podcast, he asked you what your body count was, would you have an issue with that?

03:20:02.300 A full-on complete answer.

03:20:04.520 I don't think...

03:20:05.400 I think first dates should be lighter and more just like getting to know somebody.

03:20:08.520 I'm very big on like leave them wanting more, only go for like an hour max.

03:20:11.900 So for the way that I approach first dates, I think that would be inappropriate.

03:20:15.300 But in general, if I'm interested in somebody, I want to date them, and they ask me that question,

03:20:19.840 of course I would have no problem sharing.

03:20:21.300 That's between me and them.

03:20:22.400 And if that person's going to end up being my husband, there is nothing I wouldn't share

03:20:25.960 with them.

03:20:26.800 But with the internet, I think the society has become way too comfortable posting sexual

03:20:31.440 stuff and personal information online.

03:20:33.500 At the end of the day, you should respect yourself.

03:20:36.660 And you should respect the relationship that you will be in one day and keep taboo things

03:20:41.780 taboo for a reason.

03:20:43.180 Cheers to that, Debra. 0.77

03:20:44.260 Based.

03:20:44.740 L'chaim.

03:20:45.620 L'chaim, Debra.

03:20:47.080 Good pronunciation.

03:20:48.560 Mazel tov.

03:20:49.300 Oh my God.

03:20:50.380 Okay.

03:20:52.320 Okay, that's a fair answer.

03:20:54.120 That's a fair answer.

03:20:54.900 You know, I think I've asked this question to women.

03:20:58.080 I mean, perhaps we can go around the panel on this.

03:21:00.320 If a guy on the first date politely asked, you know, how many, your body count, would

03:21:06.420 you be taken aback?

03:21:08.580 Would you be offended?

03:21:10.000 And I want to add a point to it once you guys all answer.

03:21:12.700 So, Billy, Ray.

03:21:17.780 I don't know.

03:21:19.840 First date, but he's polite.

03:21:21.380 Into the mic.

03:21:21.860 Into the mic.

03:21:28.100 And would you tell him to?

03:21:30.860 He asks you right off the bat.

03:21:31.800 Well, if somebody asks me and I'm going.

03:21:34.140 That's ingenuous.

03:21:34.900 You guys sit down at the table and he's like, okay, Billy Ray, what's up?

03:21:37.800 What do you want to drink and how many guys have you slept with? 0.96

03:21:40.340 I think it really depends on if we've been, if this is our first time meeting and we had

03:21:44.580 been talking for a while and there was like some conversation already established and we

03:21:48.120 were super interested in each other.

03:21:50.640 And also, if this was leading towards a sexual relationship, I have no problem talking about

03:21:54.940 that.

03:21:55.840 But you said.

03:21:57.700 I was kidding.

03:21:58.740 No, no, no.

03:21:59.160 I would never lie.

03:22:00.120 If I was going to tell somebody, I would never lie or tell them a false number.

03:22:07.400 I think that'd be a weird first date question, though.

03:22:09.740 It's totally weird.

03:22:10.540 I agree.

03:22:11.660 That's not weird.

03:22:12.560 It's totally weird.

03:22:13.420 How do you bring that up in a not weird way on a first date?

03:22:16.020 Well, I want the girls to answer before I give my piece. 0.74

03:22:21.460 But Marquavius, by the way, said he would fund the date.

03:22:26.460 Oh, snap. 0.99

03:22:28.000 Let's go.

03:22:28.660 So Marquavius is saying he'll drop four grand for Kiko and I to go on a date.

03:22:32.960 Do you want 2K?

03:22:33.880 Yeah.

03:22:34.220 I'm not going to go any less than he gets.

03:22:36.520 Kiko, where do you want to go for-

03:22:36.940 No, she wants 2,500.

03:22:38.440 Wait.

03:22:38.460 Will your boyfriend even allow this?

03:22:40.620 For $2,000?

03:22:42.440 Yes, he will.

03:22:43.260 Where are you taking her, Chase?

03:22:44.580 Where do you want to go?

03:22:45.280 He'd be at a table behind us, for sure, though.

03:22:47.660 He wouldn't let me go alone.

03:22:48.400 Oh, that's-

03:22:49.540 Honestly-

03:22:51.040 If Marquavius is funding-

03:22:52.340 Brian, the best content of your life would be me, Chase, and my boyfriend at the same

03:22:56.680 table.

03:22:57.260 Because they would gang up on me. 1.00

03:22:58.720 What the fuck? 1.00

03:23:00.240 My boyfriend would agree with him more than he would agree with me. 1.00

03:23:02.500 Chase.

03:23:03.200 Confirm.

03:23:03.560 But we just know how to logically have our differences without-

03:23:06.420 Yo, Kiko, are you trying to convince Chase to do a devil's threesome? 0.94

03:23:11.120 Pass.

03:23:12.000 Pass.

03:23:12.400 Right on?

03:23:12.880 Pass.

03:23:13.340 He's one of-

03:23:14.200 Huh?

03:23:14.500 Pass.

03:23:14.700 Kiko, are you trying to go to Paris with Chase and your-

03:23:17.020 Wait, what?

03:23:17.380 I will not do any Eiffel Towers.

03:23:18.180 Oh, my boyfriend's there.

03:23:19.020 I'll go anywhere.

03:23:19.860 I will not do any Eiffel Towers.

03:23:20.720 I'm buying my boyfriend's there.

03:23:21.740 You didn't get what I meant.

03:23:24.540 Jesus. 0.75

03:23:26.120 You're probably a little too sexual for me. 0.62

03:23:26.740 Okay, we'll see if he's-

03:23:28.880 We'll talk to Marquavius about it.

03:23:31.700 First date guy asks you your body count politely, but he's curious, you know?

03:23:38.200 I don't take it, like, super personal.

03:23:41.400 I feel like it's a big factor in every person's life, especially if you're trying to get into,

03:23:46.340 like, a relationship to know that, like, body count matters, so I wouldn't be offended.

03:23:51.220 And would you tell him if he asked?

03:23:54.700 If I was, like, liking him on the date, I would tell him.

03:23:58.500 Okay.

03:23:58.720 If I didn't like him, I would not tell him.

03:24:00.280 Sure.

03:24:00.460 She said body count matters, which is interesting to me.

03:24:05.080 Body count does matter.

03:24:06.380 If you met the most perfect man in the world, and then you found out, or same to the girl question,

03:24:10.440 if you not, you didn't ask this on the first date, you go in blind, you're seeing this girl

03:24:15.700 for a few months, you're like, wow, this is my soulmate, this girl's amazing, or guy,

03:24:19.640 and then you find out that they have, like, a ridiculously high body count, like 30 people

03:24:23.780 that they've slept with, would you completely walk away?

03:24:26.640 Yeah.

03:24:27.020 Yes.

03:24:28.820 No question.

03:24:30.460 Like 30 people.

03:24:31.480 I see why, I'm seeing why it would be a question, because body count does matter.

03:24:36.020 Yeah, yeah, let me, I'll get to it.

03:24:37.520 What about you?

03:24:39.100 I would tell them, I don't think it's, like, a first question.

03:24:42.780 I feel like you would have to lean into it, but also I think it depends on how into them

03:24:47.920 I am, if I would see myself dating them.

03:24:52.200 Okay.

03:24:53.080 Sure.

03:24:54.540 Thoughts?

03:24:55.840 Honestly, just like what she said, it would have to be, like, if I'm into you,

03:24:59.720 then, yeah, I don't mind sharing that information, but if, like, you're just being a weirdo, 1.00

03:25:03.080 get off my shit. 1.00

03:25:04.140 Wait, question for you. 1.00

03:25:05.940 So, you previously described yourself as a certified... 1.00

03:25:09.200 Bad bitch. 1.00

03:25:09.800 Bad bitch. 1.00

03:25:10.640 24-7. 1.00

03:25:11.680 Well, no days off. 0.99

03:25:12.940 Do you, like, fucking slay? 1.00

03:25:15.960 Like, you got mad bitches, because you're a certified bad bitch. 1.00

03:25:19.100 Can I be honest? 1.00

03:25:19.360 Do you got mad bitches? 1.00

03:25:20.800 I'm not, I feel like I'm somewhat retired. 0.99

03:25:23.420 What do you, okay, wait, wait, let me finish, let me finish, before I answer this.

03:25:25.820 Of course.

03:25:26.300 Of course.

03:25:26.980 I'm sorry. 1.00

03:25:27.720 Do you get mad bitches? 1.00

03:25:30.040 As in, like... 1.00

03:25:31.040 And, by the way, are you...

03:25:32.240 Who do you go for?

03:25:33.080 Guys or girls?

03:25:33.720 Guys or girls?

03:25:34.660 Or both?

03:25:35.020 I like boys.

03:25:36.020 I like men.

03:25:36.740 Okay, you like men.

03:25:37.300 I'm actually, you know what, I'm going to be honest, because when I drink, like, I'm 1.00

03:25:41.800 personally, like, I don't like vagina, but, like, I'm down to play with some ass and 1.00

03:25:44.780 titties, like, it's fun. 1.00

03:25:46.320 All right.

03:25:46.580 That's why I asked Kiko.

03:25:48.080 Get it.

03:25:48.580 That's why I asked Kiko.

03:25:49.960 So...

03:25:50.440 About your sexuality, right?

03:25:51.760 So, like, I don't know, I kind of get the impression, like, I feel like you got 1.00

03:25:55.520 games, so, like, do you get mad bitches? 1.00

03:25:59.340 Honestly, yes. 0.99

03:26:01.480 However, let me clarify something.

03:26:03.280 I feel like the older that I'm getting, I'm washing them away.

03:26:10.160 Why?

03:26:10.680 Because I'm getting older.

03:26:11.880 I want a man who loves me openly.

03:26:14.880 You're 23.

03:26:15.680 Yeah, we're 23.

03:26:16.640 You got plenty of time to sow the wild oats.

03:26:21.060 Let's be...

03:26:21.700 Is that how that goes?

03:26:22.460 Let's spill the tea real quick, okay?

03:26:24.760 Like, let's spill the tea.

03:26:27.160 My experiences from dating are way more different than theirs.

03:26:30.620 I'm a trans girl.

03:26:31.500 Like, man, honestly, like, it's so fucking rare that you ever even find a guy that's 0.83

03:26:36.800 being like, let me take you out. 0.64

03:26:38.280 Let's go see a movie.

03:26:39.240 Let's go have dinner. 1.00

03:26:40.240 No, they're just trying to fuck. 1.00

03:26:41.460 I'm a fetish. 1.00

03:26:42.280 I'm a fetish to, like, 98% of those fucking guys. 1.00

03:26:45.660 You know? 1.00

03:26:46.520 So, my thing right now is, like, okay, yeah, sexually, I can probably have whatever the 1.00

03:26:51.140 fucking guy I want to. 1.00

03:26:52.500 You sure about that? 0.99

03:26:53.600 No, honestly, like, there has not...

03:26:55.640 I'm going to be 100% honest.

03:26:56.600 It's like, if I genuinely like that guy, or if I, like, oh, you know...

03:27:00.980 There's nothing godly about...

03:27:02.440 Yeah.

03:27:04.380 Not yet, sorry.

03:27:05.480 Sorry.

03:27:07.300 So, like, if I'm attracted to him sexually, like, there's...

03:27:10.240 I've...

03:27:11.280 90, like, 95% of the time, I'll get it.

03:27:14.660 However, I'm getting to a certain age now, like, a level of maturity, where it's like,

03:27:20.080 okay, sex is just sex at this point.

03:27:21.760 I want intimacy, and I want it outside of closed doors. 0.96

03:27:25.900 Yep.

03:27:26.700 You want something that's not shallow and superficial. 0.50

03:27:30.800 You want more than just sex.

03:27:33.040 Yeah. 0.89

03:27:33.640 Like, I...

03:27:34.500 Yep.

03:27:35.580 Like, I crave intimacy.

03:27:37.020 Like, and honestly, like, I...

03:27:39.700 That's something that I want long-term, and I'm at a level of maturity, like I said. 0.98

03:27:43.680 I'm clearing the fucking roster. 1.00

03:27:44.960 I don't give a fuck if you're a fucking football player, if you know so-and-so person, if you 1.00

03:27:49.700 know X, Y, and Z. 1.00

03:27:51.400 Like, I don't give a fuck, like... 0.97

03:27:53.140 Clearing the roster, what do you mean by that? 0.99

03:27:55.900 Do you have...

03:27:56.780 Confirm or deny?

03:27:57.640 Do you have blue checks in your DMs?

03:27:59.840 Yes.

03:28:00.120 Are you just running through famous dudes?

03:28:03.080 I'm not going to be, like, cocky, like, yeah, I have hundreds, but I have, like, a good

03:28:05.900 amount.

03:28:06.540 But you said a roster, so, like, question for you.

03:28:08.920 What's the most amount of people that you've dated?

03:28:12.560 All at once?

03:28:13.320 All at once.

03:28:15.800 Like, in rotation?

03:28:16.620 Rotation?

03:28:17.800 Same time, rotation, however you want to...

03:28:19.880 Honestly, like, three.

03:28:21.320 In rotation.

03:28:22.440 Okay.

03:28:23.220 Yeah.

03:28:23.800 No, like, I'll have men, and I'm like, okay, this one's annoying me, like, okay, it's time 0.98

03:28:26.920 to clear his ass, and let's bench this person, and I'm right there. 0.92

03:28:29.160 Do you meet men through dating madness out here? 0.99

03:28:31.140 Honestly, can I...

03:28:32.860 Okay, so I did the dating app thing.

03:28:35.740 Like I said, it was a full fetish.

03:28:37.520 Like, that's all it was, so I...

03:28:39.040 Did you put it on your...

03:28:39.760 Sorry.

03:28:40.280 So how do...

03:28:40.940 Do they know that you're trans?

03:28:42.740 That's what I was going to ask.

03:28:43.660 Do you put it out there?

03:28:45.000 I don't care how passable you are, I feel like you have to disclose.

03:28:49.780 Respect.

03:28:50.460 Respect.

03:28:50.920 And this is why.

03:28:52.260 Very important.

03:28:52.960 Because they're especially, like...

03:28:55.240 Ding.

03:28:56.280 Like, there's, like, okay, let's say I go out on the guy, and the...

03:28:59.940 Honestly, you know, I'm going to talk about this right now.

03:29:02.060 At my job...

03:29:02.740 Do it.

03:29:03.580 Let's go.

03:29:03.980 No, at my job, I had an experience with an old co-worker.

03:29:07.540 I'm not going to see what my real job is.

03:29:09.400 Say his full name.

03:29:10.460 No.

03:29:11.360 What's his social security?

03:29:12.660 I'm not going to say his name.

03:29:14.880 But, like, I got offended because, long story short, he basically said that if he went

03:29:19.900 on, like, a date with a trans girl, and he didn't know that she was trans, and she is, 1.00

03:29:24.420 like, a fucking baddie, like, I'm talking ass, titties, like, operator, you don't even 1.00

03:29:28.420 fucking tell. 1.00

03:29:29.560 Like, this is the baddest bitch. 1.00

03:29:31.420 And he found out that she was trans, he said that he would feel the need to bring out 1.00

03:29:35.340 his weapon.

03:29:37.300 Exactly.

03:29:38.160 So that's a safety issue.

03:29:39.260 It's a safety issue.

03:29:40.460 Like, it doesn't matter what you are. 1.00

03:29:41.820 Like, I feel like you can be the most cuntiest, like, fucking bad bitchery, like, passable 1.00

03:29:47.000 girl. 1.00

03:29:47.300 I feel like you have to disclose.

03:29:49.300 And I get it.

03:29:50.100 Some girls, like, it kind of comes into a pride thing, too, with trans girls. 0.99

03:29:53.320 It's like, well, I worked so hard to get to my womanhood, and blah, blah, blah.

03:29:56.980 I get that, and I fully respect it.

03:29:58.920 Like, whatever you want to be, still.

03:30:00.160 But when it comes to a man, and especially in dating, and this, like I said, this is my

03:30:04.020 opinion.

03:30:05.040 And, like, if any other, like, trans girls are watching, or if any other trans girls are

03:30:09.280 watching, any of the dolls are watching, hit my DMs, because if I'm saying something that's

03:30:12.860 misinforming, educate me, because I'm totally open to that.

03:30:16.460 But I feel like when you're one of the dolls, you have to disclose when it comes to dating,

03:30:21.660 because this is how there's things like murders, violence, you know, X, Y, and Z.

03:30:26.020 This is how trans girls, like, end up in sticky situations, nine times out of ten, because 0.84

03:30:30.340 they don't disclose.

03:30:31.520 However, X, Y, and Z, particularly X and Y.

03:30:35.620 However, I will say, though, that being in the social scene, I can walk into a bar, and 0.98

03:30:43.380 I'm the most confident bitch ever. 0.90

03:30:45.640 A man will still go out of his weight, and these are the ones that I'm talking about 0.99

03:30:50.260 that are, like, little closets, or whatever you want to call them, and be like, tranny. 0.99

03:30:54.920 I agree.

03:30:56.200 I've heard the same thing from some of my friends.

03:30:58.980 They're like, if I found out, because I went to Thailand, and they're like, bro, like, the

03:31:02.780 ladyboys, whatever.

03:31:04.080 I didn't do anything.

03:31:05.240 No.

03:31:06.400 But they're like, if I found out that, because a lot of them are really believable, like, 1.00

03:31:10.500 they get their Adam's apple shave down, they get their dick cut off. 0.99

03:31:14.240 Like, they get everything done. 1.00

03:31:16.760 And I've heard the same thing from, like, a couple of my friends.

03:31:19.660 They're like, yeah, like, I'm, like, I'm swinging if I find out that.

03:31:23.580 So, no, I'm agreeing with you.

03:31:25.840 I'm agreeing with you.

03:31:26.440 This is why I fully always recommend to the dolls, to all of my trans girls, even trans

03:31:31.100 men, like, anybody.

03:31:32.680 Got to disclose.

03:31:33.200 In a tricky situation like that, you have to disclose.

03:31:35.120 Got to disclose.

03:31:36.260 I 100%.

03:31:37.060 Like, even when it comes to dating apps, like, you ask me if I put in there.

03:31:39.880 Hell yeah, dude.

03:31:41.380 Of course.

03:31:41.440 Mad respect to you.

03:31:42.540 Mad respect. 1.00

03:31:43.040 I'm not going to risk myself fucking being in a situation where something stupid could 1.00

03:31:46.540 happen to me over something that, one, I could have easily prevented. 1.00

03:31:49.660 And two, because I don't want to spend my time with somebody who's ignorant or doesn't 0.94

03:31:53.180 agree with me. 0.96

03:31:54.180 Then that's on them.

03:31:54.920 I respect your opinion.

03:31:55.900 But you know what?

03:31:56.420 It's not worth my time.

03:31:57.420 That's personal responsibility that us conservatives love.

03:32:00.340 Honestly, what's funny? 0.99

03:32:01.960 Yeah, honestly, no, you guys are being really fucking bullies right now. 0.98

03:32:03.480 No, like, you're being rude. 0.98

03:32:04.640 I'm talking about a big situation here.

03:32:05.600 And you talk about side converse and sidebars when you're laughing at her this whole time. 0.99

03:32:09.240 It's really fucking rude. 0.97

03:32:10.320 No, like, let's talk about it. 0.98

03:32:11.420 Like, we're going to have to be rude. 0.98

03:32:11.700 No, yeah, it's really fucking rude. 0.87

03:32:12.580 I am genuinely, I'm not saying, I'm not being, I'm not being, I'm not going to be confrontational, 0.92

03:32:16.220 but, like, I'm all for people having opinions and fully respecting them.

03:32:21.960 But I'm not going to deal with the side laughing because it's not okay.

03:32:24.540 It's really rude.

03:32:25.340 It's not professional at all.

03:32:25.660 Because I'm 100% open to hearing your point of view on things.

03:32:28.600 No.

03:32:28.740 That's totally fair.

03:32:29.780 You act like a big old Christian man of God. 0.96

03:32:32.440 I don't think a man of God would conduct himself this way.

03:32:34.860 I'm sorry.

03:32:35.600 There's certain ways to show face.

03:32:37.340 If you want to go laugh about it in your private doors.

03:32:39.000 Don't project onto me what you think a man of God would do.

03:32:41.240 I just want to say for the record, I respect you.

03:32:43.880 Sorry.

03:32:44.400 Saying that you disclosed that.

03:32:46.040 I think that's a very good thing.

03:32:47.160 And I think that that's healthy for society.

03:32:48.620 And I think that more trans people absolutely should do that so that we can minimize violence.

03:32:53.060 Because I don't think violence is a good way to deal with anything in this realm at all.

03:32:57.900 And I think what you're saying is good in that aspect.

03:33:01.360 No.

03:33:01.560 And also, let me just finish something by saying that.

03:33:04.040 I'm not also saying that trans girls only get hate crimed or whatever, violence or whatever, just because of that. 0.99

03:33:12.560 They get hate crimes as well because of other shit too. 0.99

03:33:15.800 Yeah. 0.99

03:33:16.020 Which I don't support.

03:33:17.060 That is just one of the things that the...

03:33:20.000 It's a preventable one.

03:33:21.460 That's a preventable one from happening to us.

03:33:23.240 It's preventable.

03:33:24.000 Yeah.

03:33:24.200 That was my whole point of that.

03:33:25.820 Again, I respect you disclosing that.

03:33:27.500 And I also want to state for the record, I don't support violence against trans people.

03:33:31.140 I don't think that's a good thing.

03:33:32.060 Violent is wrong.

03:33:32.880 I'm glad we can all agree on that.

03:33:34.020 Don't hurt people for no reason. 0.99

03:33:36.160 But don't fucking play with me. 0.99

03:33:36.980 Okay, so the original question... 0.99

03:33:40.040 Have you ever fucked someone up who was like, yo, I hate trans people, and they were trying 1.00

03:33:44.360 to get violent with you? 0.99

03:33:44.840 No, if I'm being 100% honest, I don't give a fuck what people's opinions are. 1.00

03:33:47.860 I'm the baddest bitch. 1.00

03:33:49.320 You can't change my fucking mind. 1.00

03:33:50.540 Yeah, maybe you come out as delusional, but I don't give a fuck what the fuck I have to say. 1.00

03:33:53.920 You think I dress like this and have fucking 40-inch weave in my head and just like lashes 1.00

03:33:58.700 in for a man? 1.00

03:34:00.360 Absolutely not.

03:34:01.200 I do it because you know what?

03:34:02.240 I feel beautiful with or without it. 0.97

03:34:05.700 I don't give a fuck. 0.99

03:34:06.580 Period. 1.00

03:34:06.980 One thing you're not going to do, though, is play with me in my face.

03:34:09.720 May I ask a question?

03:34:10.380 Don't play with me in my face like that because that's when it becomes an issue.

03:34:13.260 And that's supposed to be for anybody because you know what?

03:34:14.900 I'm the most patient person ever.

03:34:16.640 I don't care if we're at the club or at dinner or whatever. 0.99

03:34:19.260 I'll let some shit slide, but if it keeps on going... 0.99

03:34:21.960 She's been very patient. 1.00

03:34:22.740 Nah, you're fucking playing with me because at that point you're playing with my face. 0.99

03:34:25.680 She's been very patient. 1.00

03:34:26.560 Okay, point taken.

03:34:28.060 I have a question for you if I may ask.

03:34:29.700 Are you on hormones?

03:34:31.140 Yes.

03:34:31.640 How long have you been on hormones?

03:34:33.100 Since I was 19, 20.

03:34:35.380 How do you feel like it's changed you as a person?

03:34:37.920 I'm a lot more emotional.

03:34:39.340 However, I feel like it also made me a little more strong-minded.

03:34:42.100 How so?

03:34:43.660 I'm not as much of a crybaby as I used to be.

03:34:46.240 Got it.

03:34:46.880 Okay, so the original point was or the initial question was we were talking about body count

03:34:52.020 and I was basically just going around asking, is somebody knocking?

03:34:57.800 Is somebody knocking?

03:34:59.300 It might be one of your neighbors.

03:35:01.160 Sounds like it's one of your neighbors.

03:35:02.320 Yeah, it's the wall.

03:35:03.880 Is it the wall?

03:35:05.260 I don't know.

03:35:06.740 Something.

03:35:07.800 Oops.

03:35:08.560 Eric, do you want to check on it?

03:35:10.000 No, don't open the door.

03:35:11.920 Eric, don't open the door.

03:35:13.120 I want to open that.

03:35:13.880 Let's check.

03:35:14.220 Okay, so why are you checking, Eric?

03:35:20.540 Don't check.

03:35:21.200 No checking.

03:35:22.160 Don't open the door.

03:35:22.880 They're going to kidnap you, Eric.

03:35:23.760 Don't do it.

03:35:24.380 They're going to kidnap you.

03:35:25.160 Do your neighbors complain a lot?

03:35:26.960 Huh?

03:35:27.340 Do your neighbors complain a lot?

03:35:28.280 Are they doing it again?

03:35:29.340 And whatever, we're just going to continue.

03:35:31.040 Okay, so the body count thing, right?

03:35:32.200 The body count thing, we were talking about, what's it called? 0.99

03:35:37.640 Sorry, the fucking thing was distracting me. 0.72

03:35:39.220 Yeah, so you guys all answered, some of you said, maybe it's a little iffy. 0.93

03:35:44.100 I'll tell you this, and maybe this is me giving girls a bit of game here. 1.00

03:35:48.100 If a guy is asking what your body count is, even on the first date, that means that he's

03:35:53.180 actually interested in you, and he's trying to, like, because if a guy- 0.96

03:35:57.440 But he's also socially retarded. 0.99

03:35:58.600 Yeah. 0.91

03:35:59.380 I don't think it's socially retarded. 1.00

03:36:00.340 He's the type of guy who needs to hire Billy's friend for his dating profile pictures.

03:36:04.140 No, it's on the first date.

03:36:05.400 I disagree.

03:36:05.860 No, because look, if it's important to you, if it's important to you, why, like, I think

03:36:11.840 it's best to get those sorts of potential deal breakers, just get them out on the first

03:36:18.000 date.

03:36:18.420 Certain things are first date appropriate, and certain things aren't.

03:36:20.720 I hear you, but I think that makes it more like a meeting, and I've gone on one date

03:36:24.560 with a guy who made it like that.

03:36:25.860 He's like, would you be down to get married very quickly after you started dating?

03:36:28.860 I also don't think you should wait a long time for an engagement.

03:36:31.440 Also, after you get married, I don't think you should wait a long time to have a baby.

03:36:33.980 I'm like, whoa, this is not a business deal.

03:36:37.240 Relationships are complicated.

03:36:38.280 You need a connection before you make sure that everything's aligned, and that's the

03:36:41.460 basis of everything is a connection.

03:36:43.800 So I think those questions are important to come in time, but I don't think you should

03:36:48.080 just go into a first date and rip out all your hardest questions and types, like, how

03:36:51.480 do you want to raise a kid?

03:36:52.300 Those are very important, but if you don't even have that initial connection, it's like,

03:36:56.180 there's no point.

03:36:56.640 But if a girl says, like, look, if a girl says something that, for example, that is 0.92

03:37:01.820 just, and you are looking for something long-term, whether you're a girl or a guy, and for example,

03:37:07.520 if someone says, I don't want to have kids, and you ask, do you want to have kids one

03:37:11.940 day?

03:37:13.160 That's a reasonable first date question.

03:37:15.120 But some people might say, whoa, this is our first day of meeting.

03:37:18.140 No, no, no, no.

03:37:18.660 But why aren't men allowed to ask these sorts of questions?

03:37:24.260 Because kids is the future.

03:37:26.160 Kids is what you want to have in the future.

03:37:27.800 Your body count is things that you've done in relationships, and if somebody's not going

03:37:31.180 to be in a relationship, why do you need to share such personal information with them

03:37:34.520 that they're just going to, like, go and not have any use for?

03:37:36.940 If you tell someone, like, oh, yeah, I want kids, like, that's not really personal information.

03:37:40.980 That's just, like, do you like chicken?

03:37:42.300 Yeah.

03:37:42.500 Yeah, but on a one-on-one, on a one-on-one.

03:37:45.840 Guys, guys, it's like this.

03:37:47.480 Okay.

03:37:48.080 If I'm going on a first date with a girl, Brian, I'm going to ask her, yo, like, do you 0.99

03:37:51.260 want kids?

03:37:52.000 Do you want to have a family?

03:37:53.240 Do you believe in God?

03:37:54.140 Do you believe in God?

03:37:54.740 Are you down with traditional values?

03:37:56.200 All that kind of stuff.

03:37:57.440 All of that, and yes, around here in California, that's going to turn a lot of girls off, which 1.00

03:38:01.740 is why I don't date girls here in the area. 1.00

03:38:04.480 All that's fair game, first date, but the body count question, bro, it's like a socially,

03:38:09.960 we're not allowed to say the word retarded, but it's a socially. 0.94

03:38:12.500 It's a socially retarded question to ask on the first date because. 0.99

03:38:17.680 Say the R word from here on out. 1.00

03:38:19.120 Because if a guy says, hey, what's your body count on the first date, the woman's going 1.00

03:38:23.380 to be like, are you kidding me right now?

03:38:25.220 Like, vet her, you know, find out if you guys have chemistry.

03:38:29.560 And if so, Rose, I'm going to give you guys a tip.

03:38:32.820 Check out her social media.

03:38:34.380 Check out her Facebook, her Instagram, all that kind of stuff.

03:38:37.060 Look at her past. 0.98

03:38:38.100 If you see her partying and you see her with a bunch of chads going out to the clubs in

03:38:43.000 the past, you can be reasonably certain that she's got a decently high body count. 0.69

03:38:47.140 Okay.

03:38:47.420 Now, not all women do, but if there are those indicators, you can be reasonably certain. 0.85

03:38:52.020 Now, if you like the girl and you guys have chemistry and all that kind of stuff, you start

03:38:56.600 building that relationship with her.

03:38:57.980 And then a few dates in, if an opportunity comes up where it's not weird, you could ask

03:39:03.460 her.

03:39:03.640 But if you ask her on the first date right off the bat, it's like, bro, like she's probably

03:39:07.560 going to be like, yo, are you kidding me right now, dude?

03:39:09.200 And it'll probably kill the vibe.

03:39:10.320 Well, it depends on what her body count is. 1.00

03:39:12.180 If she has a high body count, she's going to be really, really like difficult to break 1.00

03:39:17.940 open and want to tell you that.

03:39:18.980 But if she has a low body count, she's going to tell you that right away.

03:39:22.040 And because women know, they know that a low body count is like something to flex and a 1.00

03:39:26.220 high body count is something to hide.

03:39:27.680 So it depends on the kind of woman. 1.00

03:39:29.440 So I kind of see what Brian's point is.

03:39:31.720 I will add a caveat.

03:39:32.480 Because if you ask someone on the first date, hey, what's your body count?

03:39:38.060 You know, and she's hesitant.

03:39:39.520 No, I disagree.

03:39:40.960 Then it might be that she has a high body count, but it also might be that like it's just really

03:39:44.880 invasive because you're just getting to know them.

03:39:46.480 I think a lot of girls with high body counts are actually very happy to tell you. 0.81

03:39:52.720 They're very empowering.

03:39:53.520 That's true on the show.

03:39:54.700 That's true on the show.

03:39:55.960 That's been true on the show.

03:39:56.900 Yeah.

03:39:57.220 The chicks with the highest body counts have been like, yeah, it's 39. 1.00

03:40:00.060 I will add a caveat.

03:40:01.340 I will add a caveat.

03:40:02.520 I was talking to a girl recently.

03:40:04.520 I knew that she was extremely interested in me.

03:40:06.660 She knew that I was very interested in her right off the bat.

03:40:08.920 And I could tell she was very modest, had good values, good morals, all that kind of stuff,

03:40:13.240 a bit younger.

03:40:14.040 And I asked her, are you a virgin?

03:40:15.660 And this was in the first 48 hours of us talking.

03:40:17.920 And she said, yes.

03:40:18.860 Okay.

03:40:19.080 So like there are times like if there's sufficient interest and you guys are already vibing, you

03:40:23.320 can ask, but like if you just, it's, it's a socially our thing to just ask right off

03:40:28.520 the bat until you have the vibes established.

03:40:31.460 It's a great way to kill the vibe.

03:40:33.260 Would you guys agree with that?

03:40:33.920 It's almost like why are you asking that?

03:40:35.300 Is that your single determinant factor?

03:40:37.040 If you want to be in a relationship with somebody, because if you're just going off a number

03:40:40.060 alone, of course that's important.

03:40:41.800 Everybody should have their own standards for themselves.

03:40:43.800 But like, if your number is like, oh, five or more, I'm done.

03:40:46.540 I'm leaving.

03:40:47.040 Like, it just seems very disingenuous.

03:40:49.520 And it just seems like you're not really looking for the right things, even though you

03:40:52.960 actually are.

03:40:53.980 Yeah.

03:40:54.220 It's just, there's always a way to go about things and there's always a way to deliver

03:40:57.220 things.

03:40:57.600 That's with everything in life, whether it's political things, whether it's dating, there's

03:41:01.540 always the right way to deliver.

03:41:03.060 Well, no, but third date, third date question.

03:41:04.320 I feel like if I was third date question, it's of any date question, if the vibe is

03:41:10.440 there, every girl's different, every relationship's different, every connection's different.

03:41:14.760 If you feel like there's those people that you meet and it's like, wow, where have you

03:41:18.280 been my whole life?

03:41:18.960 Like our souls are aligned.

03:41:20.240 I just feel like I've known you for a million years.

03:41:22.400 Those things.

03:41:23.080 I think you stay up all night talking about your childhood, body count, when I lost my

03:41:26.500 virginity, all those types of little tiny things.

03:41:29.000 But if it's just like a random girl that you match with on hinge, you meet, you take her out

03:41:33.020 for drinks, you're like, yo, so what's your body count?

03:41:35.200 Like that just makes you look so bad as a guy, even if it's coming from a great place,

03:41:39.560 which I can acknowledge it is.

03:41:40.680 Okay.

03:41:40.700 So I think you can first off frame the question in a better way.

03:41:44.280 I mean, I don't know exactly how I would articulate it, but you could say something like-

03:41:48.120 Have you been ran through?

03:41:49.200 Yeah.

03:41:49.480 I'm sure that would go for a while.

03:41:50.460 That was crazy.

03:41:50.840 So are you ran through? 0.99

03:41:51.900 You could ask like, are you willing to have sex before marriage?

03:41:54.240 And if they say yes, then say, do you have sex outside of relationships?

03:41:58.100 Things like that.

03:41:58.840 Like I'm somebody that, that is a big thing for me.

03:42:01.780 Like I don't, I'm not a one night stand type of girl.

03:42:04.280 Just put it that way.

03:42:05.040 Like I'm physically incapable of sleeping with somebody if I just met them and think they're

03:42:08.320 cute.

03:42:08.780 I'm an emotional person.

03:42:09.960 I like connecting.

03:42:10.600 I'm a girl.

03:42:11.180 I like commitment.

03:42:11.820 And I think it would undersell myself if I just slept with a guy who thought I was good

03:42:15.440 looking and liked me for a night.

03:42:17.080 Like I want to see a man try and vie. 1.00

03:42:19.060 And that's what courting is.

03:42:20.320 Women used to be courted by men. 1.00

03:42:21.660 And now they slide up on your pictures, like your story.

03:42:23.920 And they're like, I'm in.

03:42:25.180 No, you're not.

03:42:25.440 I mean, that's because courtship is reserved for, for ladies, you know, gentlemen and ladies.

03:42:32.480 Most women today are not ladies. 1.00

03:42:34.840 A lot of men today aren't gentlemen.

03:42:36.480 That's not a bad point.

03:42:37.540 So a lot of women have slept with 10, 20, 30, 40, 50 people. 1.00

03:42:42.820 They're dating multiple people at the same time.

03:42:45.500 You don't get courtship if you're not a traditional woman.

03:42:48.160 Point, point, period.

03:42:48.980 Yeah, for sure.

03:42:49.460 And most women are not traditional women and they're dating multiple people. 0.98

03:42:53.000 I'm not going to court you when you have three other dudes that you're dating.

03:42:57.820 You shouldn't.

03:42:58.000 And most other women. 1.00

03:42:59.680 Why don't you ask that question?

03:43:00.820 Are you talking to anybody else?

03:43:02.320 I do ask that question.

03:43:03.140 I think that's a better first date question.

03:43:05.760 I do ask that question, but I do care about your past too.

03:43:08.840 I feel like if you...

03:43:09.460 Do you ask them, are you open to having sex before marriage?

03:43:12.980 I think that's a much easier question than a body count because usually the girl will 1.00

03:43:16.180 lend information like, oh yeah, I had sex this time, but it's important to me.

03:43:19.860 Yeah, I'll ask that on the first date.

03:43:20.980 That's a good question to ask because if they're like, oh yeah, I don't think that sex is serious.

03:43:24.600 Because I don't want to wait until marriage, so I'll ask that on the first date.

03:43:27.180 So it's an interesting question too because I know that you don't want to get married.

03:43:30.400 And it also actually leaves me wondering, Brian, like if you're not interested in getting

03:43:36.160 married, why do you care about what the girl's body count is? 1.00

03:43:42.200 Is that a serious question?

03:43:43.780 Yeah, it is.

03:43:44.180 I think it's a great question.

03:43:44.720 Because if you're not interested in like a serious long-term relationship with the girl

03:43:49.500 that you're talking to...

03:43:51.500 Hygiene?

03:43:52.680 How'd you ask a woman... 1.00

03:43:53.860 Hygiene doesn't correlate to body count though.

03:43:55.600 Well, so we talked a little bit about this last time, but you seem to think that it's

03:43:59.900 somehow incapable, it's impossible to have a serious long-term monogamous relationship

03:44:05.540 with the girl without also having a marriage.

03:44:10.060 Well, I'm not under the impression that you want like a decades-long...

03:44:15.140 Do you want like a decades-long relationship with a woman outside of marriage?

03:44:18.400 Sure.

03:44:19.040 Yeah.

03:44:19.880 With like kids involved in stuff too?

03:44:21.420 I mean, right now I'm a little on the fence with when it comes to kids.

03:44:26.560 I'm not yet.

03:44:27.580 I'm not 100% yes, not 100% no.

03:44:30.160 Do you just not want the government involved?

03:44:32.960 Is that your thought on marriage?

03:44:34.080 That's part of it.

03:44:35.660 I mean, just the fact of the matter is, is that marriage, divorce is...

03:44:40.900 For me, I don't see the benefit.

03:44:44.520 From a religious point of view, I don't have an issue with it.

03:44:47.400 But with the government, when it comes to divorce, when it comes to the financial ramifications,

03:44:52.560 when it comes to just being the court system, which has a pretty gnarly bias against men,

03:44:59.840 just doesn't...

03:45:01.320 Sorry, guys, there's a fly on the microphone.

03:45:03.300 I had to blow it away.

03:45:03.960 Sorry to destroy your earlobes there.

03:45:07.440 Nice. 1.00

03:45:07.920 Okay, fucking flies harassing us. 1.00

03:45:12.020 Yeah, just men get destroyed in divorce, and women initiate 80% of divorces. 1.00

03:45:17.820 That's 90% if they're college educated.

03:45:21.080 So I just don't see...

03:45:22.980 I really don't see the benefit.

03:45:25.600 Most, the vast majority of people who pay alimony and child support are men.

03:45:30.040 So it's just all the negative outcomes of divorce disproportionately impact men.

03:45:34.380 So there's just absolutely no incentive to get married.

03:45:37.940 I'm a businessman.

03:45:39.540 I said this last time.

03:45:40.780 I'm a businessman.

03:45:41.680 You know I'm a businessman because you find me at my place as a business. 1.00

03:45:44.680 I do not enter into contracts that are dog shit. 1.00

03:45:49.740 And marriage is a contract, and it's a terrible contract for men. 1.00

03:45:54.360 In the state of California.

03:45:55.180 In all Western countries.

03:45:57.220 As long as you don't want kids, whatever. 1.00

03:45:59.200 If you want kids, it's still a pretty stupid plan. 1.00

03:46:01.560 Is it still a terrible... 1.00

03:46:02.060 In states where there aren't no-fault divorce, how is it a bad contract?

03:46:05.080 Is it a bad contract if you get a prenup?

03:46:07.860 Prenups are constantly challenged and thrown out.

03:46:10.500 Yeah, they always work.

03:46:11.580 Look, at the end of the day, when you get married, if you have a divorce, unless you're both really amicable, there's going to be lawyers involved.

03:46:20.440 If you, as the guy, you're the primary breadwinner, you have to pay for your lawyer, you have to pay her for, you have to pay for her lawyer, you have to pay for yours.

03:46:28.940 Lawyers charge like $300 an hour. 0.91

03:46:32.240 You're going to get screwed there.

03:46:33.460 Then you're going to have to pay her money. 0.99

03:46:34.560 Then you're going to have to pay alimony.

03:46:35.720 Then throw in child support.

03:46:37.240 She gets the house. 0.90

03:46:38.220 She gets the dog.

03:46:39.100 She gets everything. 1.00

03:46:40.220 Fuck no. 1.00

03:46:41.540 But that's in a state with no-fault divorce, though. 1.00

03:46:44.540 I happen to be in California.

03:46:45.760 Right, right.

03:46:46.600 But in another state, would it be different where it doesn't have that?

03:46:50.100 Men get destroyed in every single state in this country when it comes to divorce and alimony.

03:46:56.360 It's not 100%, but there is certain clauses and prenups to help you there.

03:47:00.300 I question if that's true.

03:47:01.780 And also, you can't bet.

03:47:03.080 I'm curious about the more red states, if it's as bad.

03:47:05.160 You don't believe that you can court out a woman who won't do that to you? 1.00

03:47:09.420 You're not saying you have to find someone and marry them right away.

03:47:11.560 What if you're with someone for 10 plus years, you guys are living together, you think all of a sudden you're going to get married? 1.00

03:47:15.320 And boom, 12th year, she's going to fuck you over. 1.00

03:47:18.740 I'm not a gambling man. 1.00

03:47:20.240 Well, I'm not making that bet with a woman. 1.00

03:47:24.340 She would have to-

03:47:25.060 I hope you don't have kids.

03:47:26.480 Even if you dated them for 10 years. 1.00

03:47:27.840 Whoa, that's kind of a fucked up thing to say. 0.94

03:47:29.400 I mean, if that's your ideology towards it, it doesn't seem like you're too concerned about what your mother's child's position in life is going to be. 0.99

03:47:38.380 If you have a child involved, it doesn't matter if you're married or not.

03:47:40.800 That's still going to be a lot of court fees and all that stuff is still going to come into play if you decide to have children, even if you're not married.

03:47:48.120 Well, there's child support there.

03:47:50.880 I don't see what that has to do with kids.

03:47:52.800 But I would much rather have to just pay child support.

03:47:55.960 And by the way, I would fight for shared custody.

03:47:57.880 Unfortunately, it happens to be the case in this country and most Western countries that men are-

03:48:02.840 It's almost-

03:48:04.240 Well, it is sexist.

03:48:05.480 Men are presumed that they are not capable of being capable caretakers.

03:48:12.660 So women are overwhelmingly awarded custody when it comes to custody disputes. 1.00

03:48:16.520 So that's, I mean, another component of the court system where there's a bias against men.

03:48:21.060 But I would much rather just pay child support than also have to pay alimony and then pay for, in the event of a divorce, have to pay for her attorney and my attorney. 0.99

03:48:31.380 And they're, you know, $300, $400 an hour in billable hours.

03:48:35.400 So no thanks.

03:48:37.900 I just-

03:48:38.220 Fair enough.

03:48:38.660 Keep your-

03:48:39.060 It's just not a good move as a man.

03:48:42.060 It's just not a good move.

03:48:43.100 I have a question for you, Brian.

03:48:43.960 Unless you have religious conviction.

03:48:45.560 Are your parents married?

03:48:46.960 They are.

03:48:47.700 Oh, wow.

03:48:48.320 They're still together.

03:48:48.960 They're married.

03:48:49.820 My parents are.

03:48:50.600 But we live in a different time now.

03:48:53.200 We live in a very different time.

03:48:54.780 And people maneuver in very different ways.

03:48:57.000 Look, do you think most people that get married, most men and women who get married, they go into it thinking, they maybe go into it thinking, this is the person I'm going to spend the rest of my life with.

03:49:06.940 I love this person to death.

03:49:08.700 And then two years later, three years later, one year later, nine months later, they're divorced.

03:49:13.020 They're going through a contested, brutal divorce where they, typically the man gets financially demolished.

03:49:18.880 A lot of people get married for the wrong reasons.

03:49:21.420 A lot of people get married for the wrong reasons.

03:49:21.440 And that's what also is a play, though.

03:49:24.180 There's a lot of happy marriages out there, too.

03:49:25.820 So, well, I don't want to even risk that as a possibility.

03:49:31.540 You don't want to risk the loss when, like, the happiest you could ever.

03:49:33.960 I mean, it's up to you, but I understand that.

03:49:35.720 I could be happy outside of marriage.

03:49:36.520 Living on the other side of that risk could also be, like, the most happy and fulfilled that you'll ever feel in your life.

03:49:41.120 And I don't think there's anything in life more fulfilling than getting married and having a family.

03:49:44.700 And nothing on this earth, I feel like, could match that.

03:49:47.740 But I do understand that not everybody wants that.

03:49:50.760 And there's different desires for people.

03:49:52.200 And we're in a different age when everybody needs that.

03:49:54.240 But I do absolutely believe that that is the highest level of fulfillment and achievement that a man and woman can accomplish.

03:50:00.960 Sure, marriage is two people staying together under threat of lawsuit from the other. 0.58

03:50:06.020 And it's usually a man.

03:50:06.700 I don't believe in one flesh under God's eyes.

03:50:10.340 Guys, guys, marriage, I would counter that by saying marriage is two people coming together, making vows to one another that they take very—

03:50:18.200 And not all people take these vows seriously.

03:50:20.520 Most marriages end in divorce, I'm pretty sure, so.

03:50:22.820 Fifty.

03:50:23.120 Yes, yes.

03:50:23.700 You shouldn't be bringing kids into this world without it.

03:50:25.660 Not all, though.

03:50:26.260 That's why I'm saying a lot of people don't take those vows seriously.

03:50:29.940 But people who do actually take those vows seriously, like, it is till death do us part.

03:50:34.660 And, like, I'm going to be there for you no matter what happens.

03:50:39.100 And there is a lot of value in that.

03:50:40.840 But how many people say, even in romantic relationships, I will love you forever.

03:50:45.540 I want to be with you forever.

03:50:47.180 One year later, I hate this person.

03:50:49.900 I can't stand you.

03:50:50.740 I need to get away.

03:50:51.900 People say things.

03:50:53.440 For example, you said a vow.

03:50:55.080 How often are vows broken?

03:50:57.540 I mean, we see it in divorce.

03:50:59.220 You said, and I agree with you, marriage ought to be till death do us part. 0.99

03:51:05.020 I agree with you.

03:51:05.760 If I were to marry a woman, it has to be till death do us part. 1.00

03:51:10.260 Words have to have meaning. 1.00

03:51:11.780 If I say till death do us part, I mean that shit. 1.00

03:51:15.880 And I want the woman to mean it too. 1.00

03:51:17.840 But words mean nothing nowadays.

03:51:20.440 Go ahead.

03:51:20.760 Yes, yes.

03:51:21.540 And you're right about that.

03:51:22.840 And part of the value in marriage historically has been having a ceremony in front of all of your friends and families and loved ones where both of you guys are making this commitment.

03:51:33.420 And there is an element of honor that comes into it where you're saying, I promise to take care of you and be with you for the rest of my life.

03:51:41.640 And you're making that promise in front of everybody that you know, right?

03:51:45.880 And so there's accountability there.

03:51:47.300 And there's accountability for both people because you're making that promise in front of your spouse's entire friends and family.

03:51:53.600 And they know, you know, if you cheat on her or you screw up in the relationship, you're accountable not just to the person that you're marrying, but to all of the people in your family and hers that you made those promises in front of, right?

03:52:06.860 That this is something like this is this has been something that's been really interesting for me to observe as a wedding photographer because I'll shoot weddings where people will do these tiny little ceremonies at like the courthouse here in Santa Barbara.

03:52:18.880 And it's just them in front of an officiant and then they get married and that's it, right?

03:52:22.580 It's a totally different vibe in comparison to like watching your wife, your future wife walk down the aisle with her father and him passing her off to you and trusting his daughter to you.

03:52:35.720 And then the handshake that happens between you and your wife's father and him looking you in the eyes and hugging you.

03:52:42.060 Even asking for the hand in marriage part.

03:52:43.540 Even the asking for the hand in marriage part, asking for the father's blessing.

03:52:46.720 Like there's so much honor and trust that goes into all of it and that that is something that is like it's so valuable because if you just tell a person, yeah, I love you and I want to be with you forever and that's one-on-one that doesn't mean squat.

03:52:59.860 But if you say that in front of everybody that you know and love and they can all hold you accountable to it, there's a lot of value in that, man.

03:53:06.900 And there's deep shame and dishonor in breaking that.

03:53:09.700 Like my body count is 12.

03:53:10.780 You guys look at me as a scallywag and I'm telling you right now, if I get married, the only way it's ending in divorce is if he's physically harming me or something.

03:53:17.960 That's the only way I would okay a divorce.

03:53:20.100 I would, once I'm married, I say those vows, we're going to figure it out.

03:53:24.320 Here, Chase, let me just respond to what you said.

03:53:25.860 If we have kids especially, we're figuring it out.

03:53:28.920 Everything that you just said sounds beautiful, sounds great.

03:53:33.180 All that stuff happens.

03:53:34.800 You said the father walks her down the aisle, she's in the dress, there's the handshake or whatever you said.

03:53:40.440 Cool.

03:53:41.640 That's great.

03:53:43.120 All that stuff happens and yet what do we have?

03:53:47.580 A high divorce rate.

03:53:48.640 A 50% divorce rate.

03:53:49.300 You said there's shame, you said there's stigma.

03:53:51.020 There is no longer a societal shame for people that get divorced.

03:53:57.080 In fact, a girl need just go to one of her girlfriends and just say, hmm, I'm having, it's kind of, we're having some disagreements.

03:54:06.560 The girlfriend's going to be like, divorce him. 1.00

03:54:08.600 I don't know any girl who would say that.

03:54:09.220 She's going to go to a therapist, divorce him. 1.00

03:54:11.340 Unless they'd have young people.

03:54:12.020 Because most therapists are steeped in feminism. 1.00

03:54:15.400 They're based.

03:54:17.220 So therapy is a whole nother thing.

03:54:18.660 You raise an important point.

03:54:20.920 Let me just finish really quick.

03:54:22.260 So all that stuff you said, all the things, first off, the social stigma in the U.S., in most Western countries, non-existent.

03:54:34.420 I mean, unless you're in like very, your whole circle.

03:54:38.420 Or you're in a religious environment.

03:54:40.560 Thank you.

03:54:41.060 Divorce is very proud.

03:54:42.060 And that's the thing.

03:54:43.360 Christianity is not an antidote to divorce.

03:54:45.800 I don't know a single, I was raised a Catholic, I don't know a single divorced couple.

03:54:48.600 I disagree with that.

03:54:48.880 I disagree with that.

03:54:49.140 Because how many Christians and Catholics get divorced? 0.77

03:54:52.760 We've not.

03:54:53.240 Isn't it a very low?

03:54:54.460 We've talked about it.

03:54:55.260 It's very low.

03:54:56.120 We looked up the stats on the last show.

03:54:57.040 I couldn't name one person that's divorced.

03:54:58.860 Guys, hold on.

03:54:59.480 We looked up the stats on the last show.

03:55:01.060 There were contradicting stats.

03:55:02.420 People sent me more stuff after the fact.

03:55:03.980 The majority of, this is the thing, man.

03:55:05.680 This is why our society must return to God. 0.66

03:55:08.500 But when people are, they actually take their faith seriously and they regularly attend church

03:55:14.900 and they're actually serious about their faith in God, like the statistics that we pulled

03:55:19.400 up before, these are people who aren't actually serious about their faith in God.

03:55:22.820 When you have people who are actually serious about their faith in God and they're making

03:55:26.060 that commitment before God and they know that they will be held accountable to it before

03:55:30.340 their creator, like that is a big deal, man.

03:55:33.260 And when you factor those things in, the divorce rates, yes, the divorce rates are much lower.

03:55:38.080 Somebody sent me stats about this in my Instagram yesterday.

03:55:40.240 Somebody wrote a book about this and divorce in the Christian church.

03:55:43.020 When you have people that actually take their faith seriously, it's very low.

03:55:46.340 It has to be.

03:55:46.760 It's not very low.

03:55:47.800 It is very, very low.

03:55:49.520 It's not very low.

03:55:50.300 Yes, it is.

03:55:50.860 Just based off like numbers, like if we can't, I can't even name a single couple from my

03:55:54.780 school of 400 kids that was divorced at my Catholic school.

03:55:57.620 I think you're part of the problem if your view is that pessimistic.

03:56:01.600 I'm not part of the problem.

03:56:02.680 No, no, no, no, no, no, wait, I totally understand.

03:56:06.460 I totally understand.

03:56:07.180 Let me just make, I'll let you come in.

03:56:08.700 I just want to make a couple of points here.

03:56:10.400 Chase, hypergamy does not care about a woman's godliness or her piety. 0.96

03:56:17.360 That, that, yes, yes, it doesn't matter.

03:56:20.040 Hypergamy still exists as an aspect of human nature, but there are women out there with 1.00

03:56:24.320 principles, bro.

03:56:25.920 There are women out there with principles. 0.99

03:56:27.200 But, but who actually, women, women in the U.S., I guess what I want to eventually get 1.00

03:56:32.220 to is that you, women are incentivized to basically, there's a, there's a, such a major financial 1.00

03:56:41.320 incentive for women to get divorced. 1.00

03:56:43.860 As soon as there's even a hint of unhappiness.

03:56:48.680 And look, as a man, you should never sign a contract with someone who is rewarded for

03:56:54.500 breaking it.

03:56:55.260 No sane, informed man would or should sign that contract.

03:57:00.440 As a businessman, it is one of the worst contracts you could possibly sign in your entire life.

03:57:07.840 If you're marrying a true feminine woman though, like if you're, if you're marrying a true 0.99

03:57:11.240 feminine woman who's in touch with everything and motherhood, she would do everything in 1.00

03:57:14.740 her possible being to make sure that she could keep her family together for her kids.

03:57:19.200 A true woman who's has the right values, the right head on her shoulders, you will be able

03:57:23.980 to tell that is not, there's no incentive to divorce.

03:57:27.200 When I think of divorce, cause I'm going to have kids by that point, right?

03:57:29.540 I'm, I've planned to have kids very soon after marriage.

03:57:31.900 The worst thing in my mind would have to make my kids go between homes.

03:57:35.880 That's the last thing I want.

03:57:37.020 I also wouldn't want them to be raised in a toxic household where we don't love each

03:57:39.800 other, but that, that's not an incentive.

03:57:43.040 If, if you're someone, if you're marrying someone who's like thinks that divorce is a

03:57:47.500 positive outcome for them, you really, really miss the mark on who you're marrying and you

03:57:52.720 miss a lot of red flags throughout that dating process.

03:57:56.320 Maybe you were too worried about not saying the person is a joke, it's mostly a joke.

03:57:59.460 Maybe you're too worried about her height and her body count and other things instead

03:58:02.340 of her morals and morality because she wouldn't do those things. 0.99

03:58:05.400 There's no, there's, there's no sensible woman. 1.00

03:58:08.720 Divorce is not some outlier occurrence that rarely happens.

03:58:12.240 Like I said, the divorce rate is 50%.

03:58:14.320 Maybe to you, but how chase, I would run out of every two women stays in the relationship 1.00

03:58:18.660 and doesn't give up.

03:58:19.480 But I have a solution for you.

03:58:20.520 Something you would really like.

03:58:22.180 Judaism.

03:58:22.900 The woman can't ask for a divorce. 1.00

03:58:24.300 The guy has to give the get to allow them to divorce. 0.88

03:58:26.980 And if he divorces her, it's a contract that only the guy can give the get.

03:58:30.660 If they're in it for life, hold on.

03:58:33.080 What's the divorce rate in the Jewish community? 0.89

03:58:35.060 I don't know off the top of my head, but there are people who get divorced. 0.99

03:58:37.440 There's people who rush into marriages and get divorced, but we have social pressure

03:58:40.740 to stay married, which society should have. 0.68

03:58:42.920 With Judaism, are you talking like, are you Orthodox Jew? 0.74

03:58:45.980 Yes.

03:58:46.580 Okay.

03:58:46.980 But there's a lot of Jews are secular, and then there's a... 0.76

03:58:51.060 If you have a Jewish wedding, you sign a get no matter what. 1.00

03:58:53.540 It's the legal contract.

03:58:55.080 And this is...

03:58:55.660 I totally agree with you keeping the government out of marriage, so...

03:58:58.780 Let's say you're Muslim.

03:59:00.680 Let's say you're Catholic.

03:59:02.100 Let's say you're Christian.

03:59:03.020 Let's say you're Jewish.

03:59:04.660 Do you know what the solution is?

03:59:07.180 You can...

03:59:08.100 I don't know what the term is.

03:59:09.260 You can be apostate.

03:59:11.380 You can leave your faith.

03:59:13.140 Then you can get out...

03:59:14.220 Get out...

03:59:14.780 I mean, Christians and Catholics can get out of their marriages, but you basically just...

03:59:19.780 So, you could just...

03:59:21.020 With Judaism, we believe that you can never leave Judaism.

03:59:23.480 If you're a Jew, you can convert to another religion. 0.51

03:59:25.180 You're always a Jew. 1.00

03:59:25.840 It's an ethnicity and a race.

03:59:27.720 But as an individual...

03:59:29.660 Sure.

03:59:30.240 Outsiders can say, well, you're always this religion.

03:59:33.780 However, as an individual, there's no law that is forcing you to stay in a marriage.

03:59:41.520 So, I mean, you say there's a get, you say there's...

03:59:44.260 It's a contract.

03:59:44.700 It's a contract that if the man leaves, it says in the contract, you sign it, you're at

03:59:47.900 the altar under the topah.

03:59:48.940 Contracts are broken all the time.

03:59:50.620 If you break the contract, the man is responsible.

03:59:52.900 The man has to be able to...

03:59:54.340 Okay, if a woman wants to divorce a man in the Jewish community, she cannot get remarried, 0.97

03:59:58.140 and a rabbi will not remarry her if she does not have the get from her previous relationship.

04:00:02.080 Let's talk about the court system.

04:00:02.120 Because religion's a whole other topic.

04:00:03.800 That's what I agree with you, though.

04:00:04.800 I think your problem might be that the government is so heavily involved in marriage, and that's 0.91

04:00:09.080 a big thing where I separate that, especially when it comes to, like, gay marriage and things

04:00:12.620 of that sort.

04:00:13.440 To marriage, me, if my rabbi marries me in the eyes of Hashem and under God's, like, 0.87

04:00:18.040 eyes, we are married.

04:00:19.400 It doesn't matter what the government says, we're married.

04:00:21.220 And you can become an apostate and then get out of your marriage.

04:00:23.680 But you can't convert it out of Judaism.

04:00:25.920 Well, and you never remarry a Jew. 0.90

04:00:27.580 Let's ask a productive, clarifying question here.

04:00:29.740 Let's ask a productive, clarifying question.

04:00:32.560 So as a woman with religious convictions, who, it sounds like you will never get divorced,

04:00:37.380 or at least you have that in your mind.

04:00:38.320 God willing.

04:00:38.740 I really hope not.

04:00:39.560 That sounds horrible.

04:00:40.440 It's my first nightmare.

04:00:41.300 By your own choice.

04:00:42.160 By your own choice, will you, can you confidently say you will never get divorced after getting

04:00:46.500 married?

04:00:47.280 I mean, I don't know if you can say...

04:00:47.820 As long as he doesn't cheat or beat you or anything like that.

04:00:50.580 Yeah, if nothing goes wrong in the marriage, I think there's always hard times in marriages.

04:00:53.820 I would absolutely stay committed.

04:00:55.320 I'm a very loyal person, but I think it's also like you plan and God laughs in that sense

04:01:00.180 of like, I have this dream of what I would like.

04:01:02.780 I would love to be like my grandparents, married for 70 years, since you're young, committed,

04:01:07.060 beautiful children, generations.

04:01:08.880 But it also is a messed up world, and I am a realist in that sense.

04:01:12.460 And I know that things come in, but if it was just like, I don't like him anymore, no,

04:01:16.900 I wouldn't divorce him.

04:01:17.840 Okay, okay.

04:01:18.320 So like, everybody has a dream about how their marriage is going to go.

04:01:20.940 Everybody wants to live happily ever after and like, have just the best marriage

04:01:24.000 of all the time.

04:01:24.360 The fairy tale.

04:01:24.620 Yeah, 100%.

04:01:25.480 And a lot of people fall on hard times, right?

04:01:28.440 Like, let's imagine, you know, you said that you like strong masculine men, and you want 0.99

04:01:32.920 a man who is strong enough to actually lead you.

04:01:35.860 Let's say you marry a man, and you guys fall on hard times.

04:01:38.840 Like, I don't know, maybe he gets paralyzed. 0.72

04:01:40.660 Maybe some terrible accident happens, and his nuts get chopped off.

04:01:44.160 And like, all of a sudden, his body has stopped producing testosterone, and he stops being

04:01:47.500 like the vital strong man that he was when you married him.

04:01:49.800 And you guys fall on tough times.

04:01:50.960 Like, in a situation like that, would you stay with him?

04:01:54.720 Let's say those hard times, you know that they're going to last for years.

04:01:57.500 Well, according to her, she literally cannot.

04:02:00.920 No, you can.

04:02:01.660 You can say, I want a divorce, but your husband has to give you the contract that says you're 1.00

04:02:05.420 officially divorced, because otherwise you can't get remarried. 1.00

04:02:07.540 Oh, so you can just continue nagging him and being a pain in his ass until he does grant 0.99

04:02:12.020 you a divorce. 1.00

04:02:12.100 Well, there's a lot of problems with it.

04:02:13.340 Sounds like a great relationship.

04:02:14.300 No, there's a lot of problems in the community, where the communities will help shun guys who

04:02:18.620 don't give guts to people, because it's abusive.

04:02:20.120 Okay, so, fine.

04:02:20.880 Okay, but hold on.

04:02:21.820 There's societal pressure.

04:02:23.300 Marriage is not between just two individuals and God.

04:02:25.840 There's also important marriage.

04:02:27.400 The basis of marriage is to have children, and society needs to encourage us.

04:02:30.440 I want an answer to my question.

04:02:32.380 I want an answer to my question.

04:02:34.000 In a situation like that, where you guys fall on hard times, and he stops being the man that

04:02:37.480 you married.

04:02:38.380 You made this commitment before God.

04:02:40.120 Would you stick to it?

04:02:41.780 Leave his, like him potentially wanting to get divorced out of the equation.

04:02:45.120 Let's say it's all in your hands.

04:02:46.460 Would you stick with it?

04:02:47.880 I think the biggest factor in that moment, everyone would want, I think everyone would

04:02:51.880 want to be like, yes, of course, but I think the biggest factor would be if we had children

04:02:54.780 or not.

04:02:55.200 I want babies, and lots of them.

04:02:57.020 That is extremely important to me to procreate and be a mother, and if I was no longer able,

04:03:02.140 if this guy was no longer able to make me a mother, that is a goal that is my biggest

04:03:06.700 goal in life.

04:03:07.240 So I would go pursue that goal, and I don't think because certain things happen that you

04:03:11.760 should give up your biggest goal in life to pass on your genetics.

04:03:16.000 You're saying if that dream of becoming a mother became compromised after marrying this

04:03:20.380 guy, you would consider a divorce?

04:03:21.720 Yes, because being a mother is like the one day, God willing, not right now, but that is

04:03:25.840 I feel like why I was put on this earth, to leave my mark, to make it a better place,

04:03:29.140 but also to raise children, raise them to be good members of society, teach them the ways

04:03:33.720 of the world, and if I wasn't able to do that, I would probably reconsider.

04:03:38.240 That's a reasonable dream to have, but you're kind of proving Brian's point, which is like

04:03:43.020 it's till death do us part as long as things go the way that I really want them to go.

04:03:47.240 Well, if a freak accident happens and somebody's half their body gets chopped off, those are

04:03:50.900 things that aren't general, and I think you have to treat it when it happens.

04:03:54.200 What are the rest of the vows?

04:03:55.200 I hope it doesn't, though.

04:03:55.400 Till death do us part in sickness and in health.

04:03:58.740 Yes.

04:04:00.120 There's certain...

04:04:00.660 It would be God's will...

04:04:02.240 I'm kind of black-billed right now by this answer.

04:04:04.120 It would be God's will if you married a man and he was in some catastrophic accident 0.95

04:04:11.340 where he can no longer have children.

04:04:13.060 It is God's will that you do not have children.

04:04:16.060 I think this is the same thing, like trying to justify abortion with certain things where

04:04:21.700 it just...

04:04:22.620 These are such extreme 1% of 1% that like this isn't... 0.99

04:04:26.800 The average guy is not getting his balls chopped off in a freak helicopter crashing into him. 0.98

04:04:32.300 I'm sorry. 0.99

04:04:33.080 This doesn't happen.

04:04:34.120 Divorcing is more likely.

04:04:35.300 So I think if you gave me like a general situation, maybe.

04:04:38.020 But what if you married a guy and like there wasn't some freak accident like that and he

04:04:41.960 just happened to be infertile?

04:04:43.460 That happens too.

04:04:44.260 Oh, that's more realistic.

04:04:45.920 We probably covered that he was fertile or not before that.

04:04:48.000 I think that's something...

04:04:48.540 You get married, right?

04:04:49.460 You probably figure out...

04:04:50.460 But if you want kids, I think a guy would know if he was fertile or not before getting

04:04:53.400 married.

04:04:54.140 I don't know how guys know if they're fertile or not.

04:04:55.380 We've got endocrine disruptors.

04:04:57.580 We've got polyesters. 0.89

04:04:58.540 We've got all sorts of things that are compromising.

04:05:00.520 We probably wouldn't want them.

04:05:01.600 We've got all sorts of things that are compromising fertility in both the sexes. 1.00

04:05:04.780 And it's like, you know, he might be fertile before you marry him.

04:05:07.340 But then like, who knows?

04:05:08.720 Something could happen.

04:05:09.760 He might develop a condition or something within a few years of you guys marrying if his ability

04:05:13.940 to procreate with you gets compromised.

04:05:15.540 But there's no freak accident involved.

04:05:17.580 Like, is it still a deal breaker?

04:05:18.940 I think these are such one-off cases that it's hard to like give such a strong yes,

04:05:22.640 because like, these are such freak random things.

04:05:24.860 God forbid that happens to anybody.

04:05:26.740 Well, male infertility isn't that.

04:05:28.460 Infertility just randomly happening overnight.

04:05:30.000 No, no, no.

04:05:30.300 But here's the thing.

04:05:31.440 You say, well, let's assume he was just infertile the entire time. 0.92

04:05:36.300 I mean, you weren't...

04:05:37.660 He never tried to have a kid with another woman.

04:05:39.860 He didn't have...

04:05:40.620 He didn't try to have kids with you before marriage.

04:05:44.760 So it's...

04:05:45.680 I don't know what the infertility rate is amongst men, but it's not so much of an outlier as

04:05:51.580 some like catastrophic accident happening.

04:05:54.120 So here's an interesting way to flip the situation.

04:05:59.580 What if you guys got married and God forbid, hypothetically, you found out that you were

04:06:04.980 infertile and he wanted to divorce you?

04:06:06.900 How would you feel about that?

04:06:07.760 So that would be really sad.

04:06:09.340 But at the same time, like those aren't...

04:06:11.980 That's not just something that you just find out.

04:06:13.480 Like I'm...

04:06:13.960 As a woman, I would know if I lost my period, if I...

04:06:16.840 You go through changes and you would know that's not something where you're like, you

04:06:19.980 wake up and you're like, oh, I guess today is not the day anymore, you know?

04:06:22.220 But you could have your period and not be fertile.

04:06:24.760 Yeah.

04:06:24.980 True.

04:06:25.560 Aren't there a lot of women who still have their period and they're not fertile? 1.00

04:06:28.120 Struggle having children.

04:06:29.580 I feel...

04:06:30.780 And also some wombs aren't meant to carry. 1.00

04:06:33.280 She feels fertile.

04:06:34.440 I feel like I'm extra.

04:06:35.200 She's real fertile. 0.99

04:06:36.560 I don't know, but honestly, the problem with fertility and all that stuff is tough because

04:06:40.280 I don't support IVF or things of that nature.

04:06:42.420 But I do just...

04:06:44.120 Without flipping it to the positive side, I hope everybody is able to have the kids they

04:06:47.680 want and I hope nobody has to deal with the struggles of infertility because it's very,

04:06:51.060 very difficult.

04:06:51.780 So hopefully God blesses us all with abundance.

04:06:54.460 Thank you.

04:06:54.960 I agree.

04:06:55.700 I think we kind of got into the weeds there.

04:06:57.500 Let's move on.

04:06:58.020 Let's be positive.

04:06:58.700 Let's move on.

04:06:58.980 Okay?

04:06:59.440 It's real negative.

04:07:00.280 Yeah.

04:07:00.500 Let's move on to...

04:07:02.360 And hopefully...

04:07:03.220 These are valuable.

04:07:04.260 I just want to say, I know it is negative, but these are valuable, hard questions to ask

04:07:07.680 because, look, in my opinion, I disagree with your take because I take that vow before God

04:07:12.840 extremely seriously.

04:07:13.900 Right?

04:07:14.300 And, like, if my wife became bald or if she became fat or, like, you know...

04:07:18.600 Those are looks, though.

04:07:19.480 Those are not fertility. 0.96

04:07:20.760 Some freak accident happened to her.

04:07:21.800 She became infertile or whatever.

04:07:22.980 It's like, I'm still...

04:07:24.200 For me personally, I'm still making a vow before God that, like, I have to honor.

04:07:29.340 And, like, I just wish more of our society was, like, on board with that because if we

04:07:32.920 were, we wouldn't have such high divorce rates. 0.98

04:07:35.900 I'm not saying I'm against that.

04:07:37.120 I'm just saying it's such a unique situation.

04:07:39.080 I really just hope I don't run into that, honestly.

04:07:41.460 And I'll think about it when I get there.

04:07:42.600 In fatness and in health, right?

04:07:45.080 What do they say in the UFC?

04:07:47.460 Protect yourself at all times.

04:07:49.260 Gentlemen.

04:07:50.140 Yes.

04:07:50.820 Do not get married.

04:07:51.700 Do not cohabitate.

04:07:52.740 That's all I have to say. 0.99

04:07:53.780 Black girl.

04:07:54.680 You'll be a lot happier if you find a nice woman to marry and have children with. 0.89

04:07:57.780 See, well, women have an incentive to say that because... 1.00

04:08:01.040 What incentive do I have?

04:08:02.320 You did prove right.

04:08:03.100 What incentive do I have to stretch my whole belly out, ruin my whole figure? 0.58

04:08:06.040 About why it's a bad contract.

04:08:06.880 Well, we're talking about marriage, not kids.

04:08:08.420 I said, I don't want to have a side conversation.

04:08:10.460 Go ahead.

04:08:11.140 I was just telling her, she proved your point.

04:08:12.740 I don't think I proved his point because I'm not saying, oh, I found something out.

04:08:15.760 Yeah, I dip in a second, never think about it twice.

04:08:17.820 I'm saying it's a very sad, tough situation.

04:08:20.580 And I think it's not a black and white thing where it happens on the daily.

04:08:23.620 Every divorce is, though.

04:08:24.160 No, not divorce.

04:08:24.820 Every divorce.

04:08:25.420 I'm saying if a freak accident happened and you're, for me, fertility is the biggest thing,

04:08:28.660 procreating, if that was no longer an option, that is a very unique situation

04:08:33.140 rather than like if he cheats on me or if I just don't like him that much.

04:08:36.860 Those are different situations.

04:08:37.640 But here's my concern a little bit about what you said, and I think Chase is sort of echoing

04:08:41.540 me on this.

04:08:42.480 You seem like you have your head on your shoulders pretty well.

04:08:45.620 You're an intelligent woman.

04:08:46.720 Thank you.

04:08:46.940 You're an attractive woman.

04:08:48.840 It sounds like you're a pious woman.

04:08:52.480 Hell yeah, Brian.

04:08:53.380 I'll take it.

04:08:54.480 No, no, I'm not.

04:08:55.100 I'm not.

04:08:55.340 But, and yet, though, you don't have this gung-ho-ness when it comes to marriage that

04:09:02.040 I would expect from someone who is godly and who is pious.

04:09:06.600 And so that almost reinforces my position that marriage is a risky proposition for men.

04:09:14.800 What do you mean by gung-ho?

04:09:16.920 Like, it is till death do us part in sickness and health.

04:09:20.760 Death do us part, but you're like, well, you know.

04:09:23.620 You guys gave me the well.

04:09:24.960 You're like, well, what if a helicopter drops out of the earth and cuts his body in half?

04:09:29.580 If you just asked me if I would stay committed to my man for the rest of my life, absolutely.

04:09:32.780 1,000% in the afterlife, same.

04:09:35.400 But you guys threw out, like, what if he gets hit by a truck and then his arm is stuck to

04:09:40.020 his ear the rest of his life and then he can only touch you like this?

04:09:43.840 That's kind of true.

04:09:45.000 We got into the weeds.

04:09:46.040 You guys gave me the most whack situation ever.

04:09:47.540 Give me a normal situation and, like, but also it is a risk.

04:09:50.860 And I do think that, like, marriage within my community is very different.

04:09:54.040 I have a lot of friends that got married young and I've seen a few people divorce, which

04:09:57.480 is, like, really sad.

04:09:58.940 But I am against, like, the no-fault divorce.

04:10:01.400 I think that you should do every single thing that you can in your power, especially if

04:10:06.640 you have kids, to keep that family unit together because the nuclear family is the basis of

04:10:10.520 this country.

04:10:11.080 And I think the decline in the nuclear family is responsible for the majority of issues 0.90

04:10:14.760 that we see, whether it's men, it's women.

04:10:16.840 And it leads us to this question, who's more to blame for the downfall of society, men or

04:10:20.240 women? 1.00

04:10:20.680 So let me, I just pulled up a stat here on male infertility.

04:10:24.240 So apparently male infertility affects approximately 7% of all men.

04:10:29.860 So that's, that's a decent chunk of men.

04:10:32.820 And then, but in humans, it accounts for 40 to 50% of infertility and something like

04:10:39.400 15% of couples struggle when it comes to conceiving or so.

04:10:45.580 And to push it even beyond the infertility point, yes.

04:10:48.540 I mean, it was a, it was a crazy scenario that I was proposing.

04:10:51.480 However, like, you know, you, you clearly articulated that your dream is to have kids

04:10:56.440 and become a mother, which is an honorable and worthy dream to have.

04:10:59.640 I salute that.

04:11:00.280 I wish more women had that. 1.00

04:11:02.000 Uh, with that in mind, like it doesn't have to just be a helicopter chopping off his balls. 1.00

04:11:08.240 Like, okay. 0.99

04:11:08.820 Point blank to answer your question.

04:11:10.440 He could, hold on.

04:11:11.100 He could also like, you know, you guys could get married and in a couple of years he could

04:11:14.880 develop cancer or something like that.

04:11:16.200 And it could be the kind of diagnosis where like he's sick, but he's going to be sick

04:11:19.480 with it for a long time.

04:11:20.580 Might compromise his ability to provide a bit, you know, especially provide for the

04:11:24.920 family that you want to build with him.

04:11:26.580 Like that, that kind of stuff can happen.

04:11:28.280 You know, do you stick around?

04:11:29.060 That's a better example.

04:11:29.920 And in that example, it's an easy, absolutely.

04:11:32.160 Yes.

04:11:32.540 In sickness, in health.

04:11:33.520 That's exactly what, that's how I feel about it.

04:11:35.620 That I would be kind of like, um, I don't know what the best way to describe it.

04:11:40.260 Like I would be grateful to be able to support somebody I love that much in sickness.

04:11:44.740 Like if somebody, even my friends, when they're sick, I really enjoy helping them, making

04:11:48.520 them food, things of that sort.

04:11:49.860 So to be there for your spouse, your partner, your other half, you become one flesh when

04:11:54.600 you get married.

04:11:55.520 Absolutely.

04:11:56.300 And if in that situation, cancer, we've had, I have a lot of family friends who've had

04:12:00.940 dealt with cancer.

04:12:01.820 It's very horrible F cancer.

04:12:04.140 But if you can no longer have kids, okay, then maybe it's my plan to adopt and give some

04:12:08.220 child who was given up by their parents the best life that they've ever had and could

04:12:11.420 ever have.

04:12:12.060 Absolutely.

04:12:12.660 I would do that.

04:12:13.380 And that's why I was just like, you guys, the example you're giving me is so freaking

04:12:16.960 random.

04:12:17.400 Like if nothing's wrong with him, except he lost half his body, I don't know, you know,

04:12:22.580 sorry.

04:12:23.440 Okay.

04:12:24.180 Um, so we should move on.

04:12:27.020 Yeah, we're going to move on.

04:12:28.080 Let me do, let me try to get a couple of soup chats and actually, you know, uh, yeah, I

04:12:33.960 should get these soup chats really quick.

04:12:35.540 Uh, to the, you need a shot.

04:12:38.300 I need my vaping.

04:12:39.120 All right.

04:12:39.560 Um, you read that one.

04:12:40.680 Did we do this one?

04:12:41.840 Yeah.

04:12:41.860 We did.

04:12:42.220 Okay.

04:12:43.400 Uh, we just got one.

04:12:44.360 Ivan Jr.

04:12:44.960 A hundred dollars.

04:12:46.400 Um, single for many years.

04:12:48.020 Ivan Jr.

04:12:48.580 Thanks for the hundred bucks.

04:12:49.420 Thank you, man.

04:12:49.680 Single for many years.

04:12:50.960 Six bed house, five cars, four businesses.

04:12:53.860 Retired.

04:12:54.180 Let's go mid thirties.

04:12:56.100 Not very picky.

04:12:57.280 Spent thousands on dinners.

04:12:58.980 I get judged so fast.

04:13:00.600 I don't have a chance.

04:13:01.400 Once they see what I have, they want my luxury car and they're not focused on natural connection.

04:13:05.820 Brian Chase.

04:13:06.800 Bingo.

04:13:07.500 Yo.

04:13:07.960 Hey, we should get them on the show.

04:13:09.100 Ivan.

04:13:09.560 Yeah.

04:13:10.000 You should absolutely come on the show, bro.

04:13:11.880 I just want to say, dude, for the, for the guys out there who have money, like one

04:13:15.960 of the most interesting experiments that guys in your position could do is like buy like

04:13:20.840 an old beat up pickup truck, post your images.

04:13:24.180 On your Instagram and social media, not with your luxury cars, not with your nice house,

04:13:28.740 but with your old beat up pickup truck, right?

04:13:31.300 Cause chicks are going to vet you. 1.00

04:13:32.640 This is, this is my thought on this.

04:13:33.780 Chicks are going to vet you. 1.00

04:13:34.560 They're going to, if they, if they see that you have money, you know, that's going to,

04:13:38.380 uh, confound the women that are interested in you. 0.99

04:13:41.540 You're not going to know if they're interested in you for your money or your personality, 0.95

04:13:44.080 but if you're flexing your, your shitty old pickup truck and none of your, uh, wealth, 0.68

04:13:49.500 you know, then you'll know who the real ones are. 0.97

04:13:51.360 You know what I'm saying?

04:13:51.860 That's my thought on that word base.

04:13:53.160 Really quick, Eric, can you pull up Twitch?

04:13:55.940 Your problem is you're spending time writing out all your personality traits and best qualities

04:14:00.300 on a podcast like this.

04:14:01.800 Any man who's doing that is not going to find a high value woman.

04:14:04.860 I'm telling you right now, it's weird.

04:14:06.420 It's quite weird. 1.00

04:14:07.600 Are you, are you talking shit on shit on the super chatters? 1.00

04:14:09.940 I am. 1.00

04:14:10.600 Yes.

04:14:10.940 To list every single one of your best qualities on a podcast.

04:14:14.240 He's just saying it makes it hard to find women.

04:14:15.980 Be nice to him, Krico.

04:14:16.800 I know, but the way the, how long the list went on, if like my example, like if he would

04:14:22.140 have been like, I'm a pretty well off man and I struggle finding someone because they,

04:14:26.820 that's all they look at.

04:14:27.560 But somebody who feels the need to list every single one, six bedroom household, five cars,

04:14:32.440 this done that.

04:14:32.940 You're overcompensating for something that that's, he's trying.

04:14:36.760 And what, what it seems like to me is that's what he's shoving in everybody's face.

04:14:40.420 So of course, if that's what you're shoving in everybody's face, that's the woman you're 0.97

04:14:43.120 going to attract is the woman who only wants to use you for your materialistic items. 1.00

04:14:47.220 And that's all you need it.

04:14:48.340 That's all you can talk about.

04:14:49.560 And you may have a point because if you look at his profile picture right there, it is

04:14:53.300 he's a retired model.

04:14:56.600 It is him seducing based on the flesh, right?

04:15:00.740 And so he, perhaps he is taking that approach and like, however, however, yes.

04:15:06.200 You may have a point.

04:15:07.620 However, he, he is touching on an important aspect, which is that wealthy men, it's, it

04:15:12.700 is, I know a number of wealthy men.

04:15:14.400 It's hard for them to find women who actually want them for who they are. 1.00

04:15:17.640 Then don't lead with your wealth.

04:15:19.480 I agree.

04:15:19.880 Marty, pal.

04:15:20.620 Go ahead.

04:15:21.420 I was going to say, not only that, but like nine times out of 10, like if I see a guy trying 0.99

04:15:26.200 to flex some shit in front of me, I'm automatically going to assume, okay, you're broke because 0.96

04:15:30.620 a guy with money isn't going to be out here flexing what it is they have because they know 0.99

04:15:34.720 they got it like that.

04:15:35.560 Why do they feel the need to flex it?

04:15:37.380 If anything, they know it's smarter to not flex it.

04:15:39.280 Exactly.

04:15:39.780 It's one thing you, when you have money, it's another one.

04:15:42.160 Honestly, Brian, I know you got money, but you're not out here flexing every single dollar

04:15:45.880 you have every second.

04:15:46.740 You're here wearing a normal flannel and a black t-shirt.

04:15:48.720 So honestly, I would rather be with, I'd rather that than somebody who feels the need

04:15:52.580 to be like, no, I have this, I have that, I make this much.

04:15:54.820 I own this many estates.

04:15:56.000 I own this many cars.

04:15:57.120 I agree with Pico.

04:15:58.420 He's compensating for something.

04:16:00.020 He's like, look at all this money that I have.

04:16:01.500 Can you pull the chat up again, Brian?

04:16:04.600 I think also he is, sorry, what were you going to say really quick?

04:16:08.000 Just like flexing your cars and your money and all this and making wealth your personality.

04:16:13.820 You're kind of setting that standard for a woman to like. 0.97

04:16:17.120 I think any wealthy guy who's got all the things he's got needs to avoid showing any

04:16:24.400 of it off for as long as humanly possible.

04:16:26.800 100%.

04:16:27.200 Like you're spending thousands on dinners.

04:16:28.900 There's no reason why you need to be spending a thousand dollars on a first date or dinners

04:16:33.100 like that.

04:16:33.520 That's the woman you're attracting. 0.87

04:16:34.720 You're attracting a sugar baby. 1.00

04:16:36.060 Okay.

04:16:36.260 Ivan, that's your problem right there.

04:16:37.800 Spent thousands on dinners. 0.97

04:16:39.180 I don't know if you're spending a shit time on the dinners that you're taking them on. 0.97

04:16:42.680 Bro, I'll tell you this. 0.98

04:16:43.380 No dinner.

04:16:44.100 No dinner.

04:16:44.320 Ivan, I'll tell you this.

04:16:45.400 I took, I was in Paris with, I studied photography when I was in college.

04:16:50.120 I went with my school to Paris for Fashion Week back in like 2015.

04:16:54.540 I met this gorgeous model after one of the fashion shows and I asked her if she wanted 1.00

04:16:58.580 to go on a date.

04:16:59.720 She said that she had to go to Portofino the next day.

04:17:02.120 I said, well, next time you're out in California, let's get together.

04:17:04.960 So she came out to California like six months later, right?

04:17:08.240 And the thing about these model girls, you know how it is, man. 1.00

04:17:10.740 They get attention from so many dudes.

04:17:12.960 They've got all the football players sliding into their DMs.

04:17:15.480 I took her out on a date to Chipotle to see what her response would be.

04:17:21.380 And I'd never do this with chicks, but on that date, I made her pay for her own Chipotle 1.00

04:17:26.440 just to see how she would react.

04:17:28.640 Just to see how she would react.

04:17:30.120 She, she rolled with it.

04:17:31.860 Top G.

04:17:32.180 She rolled with it and she was so cool about it.

04:17:35.000 And it was a fantastic date.

04:17:36.420 And I was like, yo, this is a solid woman.

04:17:39.060 That's the kind of move you got to play with these chicks, bro. 1.00

04:17:41.300 You can't be dropping hundreds on dinners, taking them out to the nicest steak dinners.

04:17:45.820 No dinners.

04:17:46.700 Zero dinners.

04:17:47.780 Do you just tell men to split the bill 50-50?

04:17:49.400 No, I'm not.

04:17:49.960 I'm not telling dudes to split the bill 50-50.

04:17:51.320 Classify that to the men out.

04:17:52.500 Or don't tell men to make their women pay for Chipotle. 1.00

04:17:54.180 I'm not, yeah, I'm not, I'm not telling dudes, I'm not telling dudes to take their girls

04:17:57.980 out to Chipotle and to make them pay for the dinner.

04:17:59.920 But what I will say is it is an excellent vetting technique.

04:18:02.900 Listen, Ivan.

04:18:03.440 Technically, I paid for my first date.

04:18:04.860 Ivan, your problem is that you're leading, you're leading with your wealth.

04:18:08.580 You're leading with what you think is the most attractive thing, which is your money.

04:18:12.000 And if you're leading with that, you're going to get used for that, my friend.

04:18:14.940 He said, Kiko, I do have a downplayed car.

04:18:17.980 My point is I'm successful and I just want a stay-at-home wife without her needing to work. 0.99

04:18:22.360 I think he's, he might be saying here, he has all these things, yet he's still struggling.

04:18:27.400 My point is though, no matter what, even if he's just commenting that to say what he has

04:18:32.880 going on, he wouldn't lead, he wouldn't ever leave a comment like that on a podcast with

04:18:38.040 this many viewers and this many subscribers.

04:18:39.860 Maybe, but maybe that's an inaccurate judgment of him.

04:18:42.160 Oh, sure.

04:18:42.800 But still, his last comment, I have five cars, I have this.

04:18:45.820 And then now his next one, oh, I have a downplayed car.

04:18:48.660 Like, don't get confused.

04:18:49.680 Like, no.

04:18:50.040 I think the point that he's getting at is it's hard to find women who aren't, who are

04:18:55.820 not motivated by wealth and who actually want to be stay-at-home wives. 0.99

04:18:58.460 And my point is that that's the one that you're, that's the one you're seeking out.

04:19:01.520 I would have no problem with someone who we could, if we lived happily and I could stay

04:19:06.420 at home with our kids, a lot of women would be fine with that. 1.00

04:19:08.920 It's the woman you attract, is my whole point.

04:19:10.620 He's attracting those Miami, BBL, sugar baby, used to be maybe a stripper with all the 0.99

04:19:15.660 money type of girls. 1.00

04:19:16.940 I think you should bring a girl to McDonald's and she should pay for you. 1.00

04:19:22.100 What?

04:19:22.800 I'm confused. 0.98

04:19:23.400 Like, bring a chick to McDonald's and be like, get to the register, like, order a shit ton 1.00

04:19:28.080 of food, whatever. 0.81

04:19:28.700 She's going to get, like, a four count nuggets or whatever. 1.00

04:19:31.940 And you'd be like, look, you just look at her and you're like, you got this, right?

04:19:36.240 Well, that's not, I kind of mentioned, if you don't know if you heard me, I said before

04:19:39.300 I would never pay for a first date.

04:19:40.420 But, like, technically, with my current boyfriend, I technically paid for our first date.

04:19:44.500 Wow.

04:19:45.380 Technically.

04:19:45.800 Wow.

04:19:46.160 He didn't, he was upset by it, but we were at Starbucks.

04:19:50.200 I get points.

04:19:51.540 I think it just comes down to the energy.

04:19:53.660 Like, I think women just want to feel secure. 0.93

04:19:56.340 Like, they want a guy that's going to be a guy. 0.99

04:19:58.280 If they're a feminine woman, they don't give a shit if you have a ton of money. 1.00

04:20:01.920 They just want to know that they're going to be taken care of. 0.98

04:20:04.340 And that they can have the kind of lifestyle that they want, which is pretty basic.

04:20:07.280 Like, I think, honestly, there are very few women that are looking for, that are gold 1.00

04:20:12.560 diggers.

04:20:13.440 Truly.

04:20:14.120 You have this, it's, they will find you.

04:20:17.580 You have to be doing something for gold diggers to be attracted to you. 1.00

04:20:20.780 And it's not just being wealthy.

04:20:22.060 Not to say that they're not out there.

04:20:23.520 Yeah, they're still there.

04:20:24.200 But if you're leading with that as your only thing, then you're going to get that.

04:20:28.160 Like, that's not attractive to me, but I'll definitely be attracted to a gold digger. 0.99

04:20:31.440 Yeah, it's like, if you want to find, like, someone that's funny, like, be funny.

04:20:34.220 If you want to find someone that's going to be, like, compassionate and genuine, be genuine.

04:20:39.040 Don't lead with someone that's going to use you for the stuff that you think they want.

04:20:43.800 Madison, did you, did you pay for your boyfriend on your first date?

04:20:49.480 Not on our first date, but I wouldn't mind.

04:20:52.520 Did you simp for your boyfriend?

04:20:53.680 Yeah.

04:20:54.640 Did you simp for your boyfriend, Allie?

04:20:56.400 Yeah.

04:20:56.720 What do you guys do?

04:21:02.060 How do you simp?

04:21:03.740 How do I simp?

04:21:04.860 Like, I don't mind, like, paying for his things.

04:21:08.200 Like, I don't, it's not like a deal breaker.

04:21:09.600 Do you pay for his vapes?

04:21:11.440 He doesn't.

04:21:12.360 Okay, good.

04:21:13.060 He's still a Chad.

04:21:14.160 Okay.

04:21:14.940 He's still a legend.

04:21:16.860 Does your boyfriend vape?

04:21:18.660 Is he a vape god?

04:21:20.920 Addie Smokes.

04:21:22.880 No.

04:21:24.000 Huh?

04:21:24.500 No.

04:21:24.900 No?

04:21:25.380 No.

04:21:25.760 Are you the vape god?

04:21:26.840 In the relationship?

04:21:28.320 God, yes, I guess.

04:21:29.420 Okay.

04:21:29.840 I don't know where I'm, these cringe questions.

04:21:31.580 Okay.

04:21:32.840 Let's Twitch really quick.

04:21:34.560 Then our last thing to react to, then we're going to wrap.

04:21:36.680 Yo, Leigh, thank you for the 300 bits.

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04:21:46.000 If you're feeling adventurous, thank you for the raid, man.

04:21:48.580 Appreciate it.

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04:21:55.260 So guys, twitch.tv slash whatever mods, if you can spam in the chat a little bit, the link.

04:22:00.720 Go to twitch.tv slash whatever.

04:22:03.080 Drop us a follow if you can.

04:22:04.560 Thank you guys.

04:22:05.040 Really appreciate all the support.

04:22:07.480 That's cool.

04:22:08.000 Thank you for the follow.

04:22:08.600 Appreciate the man.

04:22:09.540 I got to go soon.

04:22:10.460 I want to say something real quick.

04:22:11.880 I have to be back by midnight.

04:22:13.040 We're going back to LA.

04:22:14.940 I just want to ask all the girls.

04:22:16.160 My boyfriend needs to be home before midnight.

04:22:17.660 I want to ask all the girls a question.

04:22:19.680 Time permitting.

04:22:20.320 Is this, is it, is it true, you know, that you guys want a werewolf to take you in the middle

04:22:25.740 of the night, back to his lair, ravage you within an inch of your life, and then leave

04:22:31.440 you so that you can be alone and think about if he loves you or not?

04:22:36.180 Is this a vampire diary script or something?

04:22:38.600 This is like kind of like a Twilight question.

04:22:42.280 No.

04:22:42.960 No?

04:22:43.720 No.

04:22:44.420 You're not into that?

04:22:45.400 You're even when I was like 13.

04:22:49.400 13 year old fantasy?

04:22:51.000 Yeah, I was like, I got my Twilight fantasy out of me when I was like 8th grade and it's over.

04:22:55.700 Alright, alright, just ask, did that go the way you thought it would?

04:22:58.420 Not at all, not at all.

04:22:59.860 Honestly, I thought that they were going to be like, yeah.

04:23:01.620 Whoever taught red pills the term 304, please, I really wish nothing but the worst upon you.

04:23:06.940 You guys, what is this?

04:23:08.300 It just means hoe, and you guys overuse it so much. 0.98

04:23:11.000 It's not just supposed to be hoe, it's supposed to be a prostitute out walking the street. 1.00

04:23:15.300 You should reclaim it. 0.89

04:23:16.640 That's like hoe. 1.00

04:23:17.800 Like, yeah, there's no reason.

04:23:19.820 What, calling women hoes?

04:23:20.720 Men have no idea what a 304 even is.

04:23:23.700 Calling women hoes?

04:23:24.680 Just say hoe. 1.00

04:23:25.340 No, it's not 304s.

04:23:26.620 Just say hoe. 1.00

04:23:27.740 There's hella 304s out here. 1.00

04:23:29.320 304 is a prostitute. 1.00

04:23:30.620 Hella 304s. 1.00

04:23:30.940 A 304 is a prostitute. 1.00

04:23:32.940 Like, actually selling their coochie on the street. 0.97

04:23:35.420 Yeah, you can say it's for money, but there's hella 304s in the 805.

04:23:39.420 304s.

04:23:39.860 Like, what are you doing? 1.00

04:23:41.520 You sound stupid. 1.00

04:23:43.420 It sounds dumb. 1.00

04:23:44.700 Well, we're still going to keep saying it. 1.00

04:23:46.880 Keep sounding stupid. 1.00

04:23:48.340 You know that on me? 1.00

04:23:49.460 Were you not singing Kiss Me Through the Phone by Soldier Boy?

04:23:51.980 No, he wasn't.

04:23:52.660 He was there.

04:23:52.780 Kiko 304, it's fine, but I feel like you guys are using this word and I don't even know

04:24:01.700 where it's coming from.

04:24:03.220 Are you mad that everybody's using 304?

04:24:06.720 I'm so mad.

04:24:08.220 I'm so mad everyone keeps using 304.

04:24:10.340 Spam 304.

04:24:11.360 Yeah, spam 304 to make Kiko even madder.

04:24:13.380 Thanks, Matrix.

04:24:13.540 We need to get her to walk off again before the end of the show. 1.00

04:24:16.360 I'm about to walk out.

04:24:17.380 My boyfriend's going to be very upset if I'm not home by midnight.

04:24:19.680 Spam Christ is Lord.

04:24:21.060 Spam 304.

04:24:22.680 Okay. 1.00

04:24:23.520 So, spam shit. 1.00

04:24:25.620 Here's the last thing that we are going to react to. 1.00

04:24:29.000 So, Eric, you guys had a viral moment.

04:24:34.000 You and Kiko, Chase and Kiko, had a very viral moment back in November.

04:24:38.820 You made me.

04:24:39.380 You're welcome.

04:24:39.900 I made you.

04:24:40.420 That was back in November. 0.99

04:24:41.300 I don't do this content shit. 0.99

04:24:43.200 Only you do. 0.99

04:24:44.480 So, try again.

04:24:45.800 You made each other?

04:24:47.280 Okay.

04:24:48.500 How about I made you both?

04:24:49.780 How about that?

04:24:50.320 We made you, actually.

04:24:51.320 If you want to get into that.

04:24:52.000 So, I would be very quiet, Brian.

04:24:56.140 It's a symbiotic relationship.

04:24:58.680 Okay.

04:24:59.140 Start cutting the checks for Kiko and Chase, Brian.

04:25:01.080 Yeah, he needs us more than we need him, right?

04:25:03.760 I guess you guys are coming for the royalties now.

04:25:06.060 Okay.

04:25:07.020 So, we're going to react to the clip that went insanely viral.

04:25:12.220 Millions of views.

04:25:13.160 Like Twitter.

04:25:13.520 Something like 30 million, I think.

04:25:15.080 Twitter, Instagram, YouTube, Pornhub, even, it got on there somehow.

04:25:19.280 Worldstar.

04:25:19.920 Got on Worldstar.

04:25:20.880 Worldstar.

04:25:21.360 Sorry, I didn't see that one.

04:25:22.040 Ben Shapiro.

04:25:22.780 We got him a lot of places.

04:25:24.120 Ben Shapiro now, honestly, it's really annoying.

04:25:26.220 He just keeps clipping my photo into all of his thumbnails, and it's not even me.

04:25:30.100 Like, I'm not even in the video.

04:25:31.020 Hey, hey, hey, hey.

04:25:31.100 He's a member of the tribe, okay?

04:25:32.360 Sorry, but it's really weird to, like, you, like, it'll be my face in the thumbnail, and

04:25:36.320 I'm not even in the video.

04:25:37.760 Like, I'm nowhere present.

04:25:38.960 It's just your famous.

04:25:39.720 I would go to war for Ben Shapiro in a heartbeat.

04:25:42.100 Nothing new to Judaism, but I love that man.

04:25:44.300 I prefer myself.

04:25:45.000 I love that man.

04:25:45.600 He's brilliant.

04:25:46.300 He's our gentleman.

04:25:46.980 In Ben Shapiro, we trust.

04:25:48.360 We ride it on.

04:25:48.620 I prefer Michael over him, personally.

04:25:50.200 If we use Kiko in the thumbnails, we're going to get clicks.

04:25:52.740 And if we get clicks, then we're going to get content.

04:25:55.660 Get a bucket and a mop.

04:25:58.020 My followers were sent to me, like, you said WAP.

04:26:01.420 Do you remember Ben Shapiro read WAP on his podcast?

04:26:03.720 He's like, get a bucket and a mop.

04:26:05.360 That's a wet pee.

04:26:06.940 It was really crunchy.

04:26:08.000 I didn't know who Ben Shapiro was until last week.

04:26:09.040 I need to hear more Ben Shapiro.

04:26:10.460 Virality doesn't care about your feelings.

04:26:11.740 I didn't know who Ben Shapiro was until he used my photo, and then people were sending it

04:26:14.700 to me. 0.99

04:26:15.200 I have no idea who the fuck Ben Shapiro was. 0.99

04:26:17.320 You don't want to know. 0.99

04:26:18.160 You don't need to know.

04:26:19.780 It might be for the best.

04:26:21.140 Ben Shapiro first went viral for, like, denying transsexuality on a podcast, or, like, a video

04:26:26.660 or something.

04:26:27.320 And then the trans person that he was sitting next to, like, I think it was, like, a former 0.99

04:26:31.600 Navy SEAL.

04:26:32.080 Here, do it, do it.

04:26:33.020 Yeah.

04:26:33.520 Like, don't you say that one more time, young man.

04:26:36.180 And he was like, wow, that's, like, mildly violent or something.

04:26:38.720 What did he say?

04:26:39.240 He said, he was like, don't say that again, or I'm going to send it, you're going to be going

04:26:45.160 home in an ambulance.

04:26:45.840 And he was like, well, that was mildly violent for a debate.

04:26:48.620 Yeah.

04:26:49.100 Okay.

04:26:50.160 We're going to react to the clip.

04:26:51.920 Eric, if you can kindly pull it up for us.

04:26:53.980 Good sir.

04:26:55.740 Eric, could you please pull up the clip?

04:26:57.940 Pull it up, Jamie.

04:26:58.740 Someone said small hatch.

04:26:59.880 It's called a kipa, guys. 0.88

04:27:02.020 I thought it was called a yomaka.

04:27:03.160 Tiny hat.

04:27:03.640 Okay, hold up.

04:27:04.000 Before you press play, just, I ask everyone to pay attention.

04:27:06.920 Just be quiet so that we can hear it come through.

04:27:09.180 Go ahead. 0.93

04:27:09.800 Chase, would you rather smash the hottest trans woman in the world or the oldest woman in 1.00

04:27:13.960 the world? 0.96

04:27:14.900 Honestly, bro?

04:27:17.040 The oldest woman in the world, because then I wouldn't be gay. 0.91

04:27:20.840 What? 1.00

04:27:22.920 You really just want me to just rip you a fucking nail on. 1.00

04:27:26.540 Are you like, Chase, how dare you be transphobic? 1.00

04:27:31.000 Yes, actually. 1.00

04:27:32.100 What the fuck do you mean? 0.99

04:27:33.120 Yes. 1.00

04:27:33.460 That was so necessary. 1.00

04:27:33.940 Because if I had sex with a trans woman, I'd be having sex with a biological man, and I 1.00

04:27:38.200 don't want to do that. 1.00

04:27:39.100 The question is-

04:27:39.780 That's not what you said, though.

04:27:40.700 That's fine. 1.00

04:27:41.360 Because I'd be gay if I had sex with a biological man. 1.00

04:27:43.600 That's not gay. 1.00

04:27:44.160 That's not gay. 0.96

04:27:44.180 That's gay. 1.00

04:27:44.460 And I don't care if you're doing this for, like, whatever, but, like, shut the fuck up, 1.00

04:27:47.540 actually. 1.00

04:27:47.900 You look like you have a leader.

04:27:49.520 No.

04:27:50.120 That's too far. 0.98

04:27:51.600 That's too fucking far. 1.00

04:27:52.360 Why don't you make me shut the fuck up? 1.00

04:27:54.240 Because I have an opinion that differs from yours. 0.99

04:27:56.540 I'm trying to be a part of something that's going to say should let it not be true.

04:27:59.340 Rage quit.

04:28:00.400 I mean, that's really hateful, bro.

04:28:02.160 She's not.

04:28:03.020 It would technically be homosexual. 0.81

04:28:05.420 A trans woman is a biological man. 0.86

04:28:06.940 Eric, switch it to-

04:28:07.780 Oh, actually, sorry.

04:28:08.560 Keep going.

04:28:09.160 Sorry.

04:28:09.360 Sorry.

04:28:09.460 Sorry.

04:28:09.500 Keep going. 0.98

04:28:09.880 It's not fucked up. 0.99

04:28:11.060 It's real. 0.98

04:28:11.720 It's true.

04:28:12.580 Okay.

04:28:12.920 If you guys want to respect gender identities, that's his, though. 0.99

04:28:16.180 That's his sexuality.

04:28:17.640 Give him any opinions you want.

04:28:19.360 I'm not allowed to say that.

04:28:20.780 I'm not allowed to say that.

04:28:22.140 Yes.

04:28:22.540 From a biological woman who doesn't even have any trans friends, that was 0.99

04:28:26.540 too fucking far. 0.99

04:28:27.780 What? 1.00

04:28:27.920 A man of God who doesn't judge a Christian? 1.00

04:28:30.960 Yeah.

04:28:31.520 Yeah.

04:28:31.840 You know what God said?

04:28:33.040 It said he made them man and women.

04:28:35.760 He made them man and woman.

04:28:37.060 I just told you I'm not gay.

04:28:38.340 I'll pass on that.

04:28:39.100 Thanks, though. 0.96

04:28:39.480 I don't know if you're fucking forgetting. 0.98

04:28:43.400 Who knew that stating biological facts would make people walk off the show? 0.99

04:28:48.200 Okay.

04:28:48.580 It's the reunion.

04:28:49.340 What do you guys have to say to each other?

04:28:50.660 You want to go first?

04:28:51.280 Do you want me to go first?

04:28:51.840 Is there anything you would have done differently in that scenario?

04:28:54.540 I wish I wouldn't have had to leave.

04:28:55.860 I had to leave because I had made multiple comments beforehand.

04:28:58.220 I was super late for work.

04:28:59.420 No, I had said that multiple times.

04:29:00.940 Let's not.

04:29:01.360 It's not the count.

04:29:02.840 People even in the show had come and said that she did say multiple times that she had

04:29:06.280 to leave for work.

04:29:06.880 I was an hour late to work.

04:29:07.980 I was supposed to leave by 1030.

04:29:09.280 And the show went on way longer than it was supposed to.

04:29:11.440 So it seemed like a good moment to exit.

04:29:13.000 I wish I would have been able to stay there longer.

04:29:14.940 But no, I did not feel comfortable having a conversation like that with no trans people 1.00

04:29:19.520 present at the table.

04:29:21.380 You can have your personal opinion. 0.97

04:29:22.780 If you don't want to sleep with a trans woman, that's your prerogative. 1.00

04:29:25.520 That's fine.

04:29:26.420 But don't declare your opinion as fact. 0.97

04:29:29.380 If you think that if a man chooses to sleep with a trans woman is gay, so be it. 0.99

04:29:34.080 That's your opinion. 0.69

04:29:34.820 I have no problem with you having your own opinion.

04:29:36.480 But you saying comments like that on a podcast with this many subscribers and viewers hinders

04:29:41.940 men who are straight, because they do exist, who choose to sleep with trans women. 1.00

04:29:47.860 And for you being some godly Christian man, I think you should learn how to keep your fucking 1.00

04:29:51.040 mouth shut sometimes when it comes to those topics, because it's very hateful and hurtful. 1.00

04:29:55.360 Just like how you've been giggling and sitting here across the table this whole time.

04:29:58.700 If you were such a godly man who's returned his whole life around for God, you should learn

04:30:03.440 for a little bit more acceptance and tolerance when it comes to these platforms. 0.99

04:30:07.380 Honestly, truthfully, if you want to say that shit behind closed doors with your other little 1.00

04:30:11.060 red pill friends, go ahead and do so. 0.99

04:30:13.420 But just learn and recognize the platform you have and how much influence you have.

04:30:17.420 There's already enough trans hate and crime out there. 0.99

04:30:20.220 You don't need to influence it more, was my point.

04:30:23.120 Thank you.

04:30:25.840 There's many things I could say in response to that.

04:30:28.100 Then say it.

04:30:29.180 Let me ask you this.

04:30:30.480 Is God tolerant?

04:30:31.700 I think God made us all in his light.

04:30:34.860 He didn't make any mistakes, right?

04:30:36.520 So if he created trans people, then he did it for a reason. 1.00

04:30:40.040 Did he create trans people or do trans people choose to be trans?

04:30:44.460 Go ahead.

04:30:45.200 I feel like you're better off on this one.

04:30:46.800 I would rather you respond.

04:30:48.000 Okay.

04:30:49.200 I was raised Catholic.

04:30:51.620 And then I converted to Christianity in middle school.

04:30:55.220 In the Bible, it's mainly said, God does not give you more than what you can handle.

04:31:02.360 She asked me earlier, when did you know? 1.00

04:31:05.740 This shit was not a fucking choice for me. 1.00

04:31:08.420 I can look you in the eye right now and say this was not a choice. 1.00

04:31:12.360 So you didn't choose to go on hormones?

04:31:14.800 I did.

04:31:15.240 You don't, you don't, you don't.

04:31:16.000 No, I did.

04:31:16.860 Hold on.

04:31:17.080 However, you didn't choose to put a, no, no, no.

04:31:19.380 She said her piece and I'm going to ask a couple of questions so that she can clarify.

04:31:22.860 She didn't finish her statement.

04:31:23.600 I'm going to, I will let her finish, but I'm going to ask a couple of questions so she can

04:31:26.860 clarify.

04:31:27.420 My questions are, you didn't choose to go on hormones.

04:31:30.340 You don't choose to dress this way.

04:31:31.780 You don't choose to identify as a woman.

04:31:33.420 You don't choose to wear a weave.

04:31:35.380 You don't choose to put on makeup and present yourself as a woman. 0.98

04:31:38.140 So it's the same way for you though.

04:31:39.980 It's like me asking you like, oh, did you choose to wear that shirt today?

04:31:43.720 Because to you it's natural, right?

04:31:45.220 It's a hundred percent natural.

04:31:46.940 Did you choose to get a fade?

04:31:48.500 Of course, because you know, it looks good on you.

04:31:50.540 That's you, it likes your, that's, you know, everything that you choose to do, everyday

04:31:54.320 hygiene to you, that's your normal.

04:31:56.080 To me, this is my normal.

04:31:58.420 I didn't choose it.

04:31:59.700 If I think like, oh, like, you know what?

04:32:01.420 Like I like these hair extensions because they look good and because it's feminine.

04:32:05.540 My energy is feminine.

04:32:07.920 I hope I'm saying that word right now.

04:32:09.740 Okay.

04:32:10.540 But still like, it's, it's, it's, to me that these choices, there's not like I went, it's

04:32:14.940 not like I went out of my way and be like, you know what? 0.99

04:32:16.660 I'm going to wake up today and I'm going to be a fucking bitch. 0.99

04:32:19.020 I'm going to do this. 1.00

04:32:19.720 I'm going to present female.

04:32:22.360 Yeah.

04:32:23.040 Technically, technically.

04:32:24.380 You went, you went out of your way to do those things.

04:32:26.940 Technically.

04:32:27.840 I was already doing them.

04:32:29.460 I was already doing them from the very beginning.

04:32:32.440 Why did I stop doing it?

04:32:34.620 Because of what other people think.

04:32:35.860 Okay.

04:32:36.360 So I'm going to go back to the original question.

04:32:38.340 You said it's my job as a Christian godly man to be tolerant because that's what Christians

04:32:42.840 are supposed to do.

04:32:43.660 My original question is, is God tolerant?

04:32:45.920 I think it's your job to mind your business.

04:32:47.960 No.

04:32:48.280 My question to you is, is God tolerant?

04:32:51.240 You projected all of these values.

04:32:52.460 I think God is tolerant.

04:32:53.320 Okay.

04:32:53.740 So in Genesis, yes, I will.

04:32:56.940 I will educate you on exactly what the word of God says.

04:33:00.260 In Genesis, it says that when God created mankind, he made them male and female.

04:33:06.060 And in Leviticus, it says for a male to have sexual relations with another man as he would 0.99

04:33:13.100 with a woman, that is an abomination in God's eyes and is worthy of being put to death. 1.00

04:33:18.440 How many times has the Bible been translated? 0.99

04:33:20.420 How many times has the Bible been translated?

04:33:22.040 As an Orthodox Jew, is this correct?

04:33:22.580 Can you let me respond if you're going to make a statement to me before you bring someone

04:33:24.740 else into it so I don't forget what I'm going to say?

04:33:26.400 I want to hear what you have to say, but this is correct.

04:33:29.380 Is it not?

04:33:30.580 I don't know what the words are.

04:33:32.660 I don't know what Leviticus would be in Hebrew because that's how I learned everything

04:33:35.780 in Hebrew, but the biggest thing that we harp on in Judaism is a man should not lie in bed 0.83

04:33:40.620 with another man, and then we take that to mean don't forget.

04:33:42.640 Do you guys know that that scripture was changed so many times, though?

04:33:45.260 We have...

04:33:45.640 Let me finish my statement before you start talking.

04:33:47.200 Let me finish my statement before you start talking.

04:33:49.180 Let me finish my statement before you interrupt me.

04:33:51.180 Thank you.

04:33:51.720 You're making falsehoods, but go on.

04:33:53.340 I feel like you should let her finish.

04:33:54.500 Thank you.

04:33:54.800 Just let her finish. 0.99

04:33:55.120 So the Bible has been translated.

04:33:56.980 Obviously, that's not a falsehood.

04:33:58.220 It was not written in English, was it?

04:34:00.060 No.

04:34:00.540 Do you know Latin?

04:34:03.220 It wasn't written in Latin.

04:34:04.160 Okay, whatever was written in...

04:34:05.180 Oh, yes.

04:34:06.120 Okay, it was been...

04:34:06.660 Aramaic, Greek, and Hebrew. 0.99

04:34:08.580 Fucking let me finish. 0.99

04:34:09.640 Jesus Christ. 0.99

04:34:09.720 You're trying to educate me on the Bible, but you don't even have your most basic facts

04:34:13.420 straight. 0.99

04:34:13.680 Do it fucking after. 0.99

04:34:14.400 Let me finish. 0.99

04:34:14.900 You don't have your most basic facts straight.

04:34:15.540 Let me finish.

04:34:16.520 Go on.

04:34:16.640 You keep interrupting me, but you get so mad when someone interrupts you.

04:34:18.660 I'm not mad at all.

04:34:19.680 Go on.

04:34:20.260 You're just stating falsehoods and presenting yourself as an authority.

04:34:22.460 Your forehead wrinkles are giving you away.

04:34:23.940 Okay.

04:34:24.380 Maybe get some votes.

04:34:24.880 Maybe get some votes.

04:34:25.980 Oh, you brought them back down?

04:34:26.800 Continue to add hominem to me.

04:34:28.040 So, what I was saying is the Bible has been rewritten so many times.

04:34:31.920 False.

04:34:33.720 It's been translated so many times.

04:34:36.040 Faithfully and accurately.

04:34:37.760 Can you tell him to stop by interrupting you?

04:34:38.840 Okay, let her finish. 0.99

04:34:39.600 He's interrupting every word I say, dude.

04:34:41.160 Okay, just continue.

04:34:41.960 Go ahead.

04:34:41.980 Like, everything I talk, he's interrupting every word.

04:34:43.800 If I do that, you would get all my case.

04:34:45.320 You both interrupt.

04:34:46.520 It's a conversation.

04:34:47.400 Just...

04:34:47.920 Go ahead.

04:34:49.380 Go ahead, Kiko. 0.75

04:34:50.120 The Bible has been translated multiple times, and there is proof and evidence stating

04:34:53.820 that most of those translations from those scriptures, they were actually saying

04:34:58.000 a man should not lay with a child. 0.99

04:34:59.580 It was not man and man.

04:35:01.020 A lot of things have been translated because there's so much P word that runs through the

04:35:05.860 church that they do things.

04:35:08.460 Oh, are we talking like it's not in the Vatican?

04:35:10.080 There's not...

04:35:10.500 I speak Hebrew.

04:35:11.500 I'm sorry.

04:35:11.860 I can't listen to that.

04:35:12.780 False.

04:35:13.000 I learned the Bible in the original language that was written.

04:35:15.200 I learned in Aramaic, and I learned in Hebrew, and it's never a child.

04:35:17.880 It's a man should not lay in bed with another man. 1.00

04:35:19.980 And so, Jews don't even share beds. 0.84

04:35:21.580 Like, on sleepaway trips, if we went on overnight, Jews, two guys, are not allowed to even share 1.00

04:35:25.280 a bed for a sleepover because it's that serious. 0.61

04:35:27.360 That it also even more so means that you should not do anything gay. 0.96

04:35:31.460 But the pedophilia in the church, that's a whole different issue, I think, than this 0.53

04:35:34.380 specific issue of, like, is being gay right or wrong? 0.91

04:35:37.720 Is being trans? 0.90

04:35:38.460 My whole point away from that topic, guys.

04:35:41.140 But go ahead, Kika. 0.98

04:35:41.640 Thank you for your information with that.

04:35:43.260 I've read things that differ, and even in church, the churches I've gone to have said

04:35:46.720 things that differ, so I would like to talk more about you with that.

04:35:49.540 But overall, my whole thing is, I don't think in God's light would he want you sitting here

04:35:55.200 shaming people more for what they're doing.

04:35:57.640 What they're doing is not affecting you in your life, so why don't you just mind your 1.00

04:36:01.200 fucking business? 0.99

04:36:01.840 Instead of spewing hate on a podcast with so much influence on people, let them live 1.00

04:36:08.780 their lives.

04:36:10.060 Just let them live.

04:36:11.020 Okay, so just one quick...

04:36:11.700 Why do you care so much?

04:36:12.600 Why does it bother you so much?

04:36:13.520 Are you attracted to them and it makes you feel some type of way?

04:36:15.360 No, no, no.

04:36:15.760 Is that what it is?

04:36:16.320 Chase, Chase. 0.88

04:36:16.560 You seem to have a lot of answers.

04:36:18.340 I'm going to respond to that, but Brian, go ahead.

04:36:20.380 One quick thing.

04:36:20.980 So, I would like to try to direct the conversation.

04:36:24.400 I mean, we can have a theological discussion about what the Bible says.

04:36:28.320 No, before you do that, this is not about me shaming people.

04:36:32.240 This is not about me doing anything like you just described.

04:36:35.660 I stated biological facts, and you have a problem with me stating biological facts. 0.78

04:36:41.780 And the facts that I stated is for a man to have sex with a trans woman, he would be having 0.99

04:36:47.880 sex with a biological male, which is homosexual. 1.00

04:36:51.440 That is what I said. 0.99

04:36:52.620 That is all I've ever said.

04:36:53.640 I haven't sat on this podcast shaming people, being hateful towards people.

04:36:57.440 I've stated very basic facts.

04:36:59.380 And you sit on the other side, and you're like, you can't do that as this supposed godly

04:37:03.960 Christian man.

04:37:04.580 You need to be tolerant towards people.

04:37:06.540 It is our job as Christians to align ourselves with the Word of God.

04:37:10.600 It is also our job to, as Jesus said, make disciples of the nations and to share the

04:37:15.440 Word of God.

04:37:15.940 And you make all these statements about Chase, you can't be judgmental towards people.

04:37:20.000 Jesus told us, we are in this life to judge with righteous judgment, and whatever judgment

04:37:25.680 we apply towards others, we will be judged by that exact same standard with which we judge

04:37:30.640 others.

04:37:31.080 It's not a Christian's job to just walk around the world and be tolerant.

04:37:34.940 It's a Christian's job to combat evil and to combat falsehoods, okay?

04:37:39.480 And for you to say, oh, it's so hateful and intolerant, and you're trying to shame people

04:37:43.660 who want to make these decisions.

04:37:45.540 It's none of these things.

04:37:46.900 I'm simply speaking truth.

04:37:49.160 May I add to that as well?

04:37:50.720 That part of what your explanation was, was that the Bible has been mistranslated over

04:37:55.360 thousands of years, and that it's this game of telephone, and we've actually lost the

04:37:59.120 authenticity of the message.

04:38:00.480 That's completely untrue.

04:38:01.760 And it's proven to be untrue by the Dead Sea Scrolls, and I highly encourage you to look

04:38:06.660 at the Dead Sea Scrolls, and look at the Hebrew that people have... 0.95

04:38:10.660 So basically, what happened was, we found old manuscripts that were thousands of years

04:38:16.100 old in an old cave somewhere in Israel or something like that.

04:38:19.720 It was in like the 40s, too.

04:38:21.200 In the 1940s.

04:38:22.280 And what we found was that they had been saved through time in these clay pots, and it's

04:38:28.800 an amazing story, actually.

04:38:30.260 You should read into how we found these, because some kid was playing around in a cave, and

04:38:33.820 he found these clay pots, and they had the manuscripts of the Bible within them.

04:38:37.220 And what we found was when people much smarter than me and you translated these documents back

04:38:45.240 into English today, and it matched up perfectly with what we have from the Bible right now.

04:38:50.100 There's no way to make a 100% perfect translation, though, no matter where it is.

04:38:52.740 But that's the thing.

04:38:53.780 I've seen them in person.

04:38:54.640 I went to this museum in the Dead Sea.

04:38:56.220 It's not possible.

04:38:56.400 I speak Aramaic.

04:38:57.540 You read it, and it's the exact same text from like 3,000 years ago that they found

04:39:01.700 at the bottom of the Dead Sea with ancient Egyptian chariots from the same story.

04:39:05.560 And a big thing is, like, if you look at the Torah, or the Bible for the English

04:39:10.560 right, if you look at it as a history book instead of just a religious doctrine, it's historically

04:39:14.940 accurate.

04:39:15.600 The things that are written in the Bible are what have happened.

04:39:18.160 You can go and find ancient ruins confirming all the things.

04:39:21.480 Even I went to Israel.

04:39:22.540 I saw all the Jesus things, the St. Peter Apostle, correct me if I'm saying it wrong, but

04:39:26.920 like, it's a historical text document.

04:39:29.020 So I think it's two different arguments, whether it's like, has it been properly translated

04:39:32.640 and are you spewing hate?

04:39:34.280 But I wasn't here for that, obviously.

04:39:36.020 Let me try to direct the conversation a little bit because we are getting a little bit into

04:39:39.220 semantics.

04:39:40.100 And we do need to go home down there.

04:39:42.820 Let's talk about the main thing, though.

04:39:44.260 So basically, Chase is saying, you guys said that you disagree with Chase's statement

04:39:50.940 about that being homosexual. 0.82

04:39:54.580 Yeah.

04:39:55.660 You disagree with that?

04:39:57.140 I think it's an opinion.

04:39:58.980 It's a biological fact?

04:40:00.360 No, it's an opinion.

04:40:01.500 It's an opinion.

04:40:02.080 Why do you disagree?

04:40:03.640 So as a trans woman, there's these things that we encounter.

04:40:06.760 Wait, you got to speak into my mind.

04:40:08.480 It's an opinion that we call chasers, okay?

04:40:10.940 Okay.

04:40:11.320 Chasers?

04:40:11.960 Unironically.

04:40:12.620 Named after Chase?

04:40:13.440 Wait, like, great.

04:40:14.720 No.

04:40:15.320 I'm not saying this.

04:40:17.120 Alcohol?

04:40:17.760 Are we talking about that?

04:40:18.220 No.

04:40:18.680 I'm talking about that.

04:40:19.220 It's like, they're called chasers. 0.97

04:40:21.380 It's like, basically men who specifically seek out trans women for their genitals because 0.88

04:40:28.040 they like femininity, whatever. 1.00

04:40:29.680 Because they're gay? 0.96

04:40:31.180 I mean, yeah.

04:40:32.860 I mean, I don't know.

04:40:33.900 You just said that.

04:40:34.680 Whatever.

04:40:35.040 No, no, no, no, no.

04:40:35.820 Let me finish.

04:40:36.740 Let me finish. 1.00

04:40:37.440 There's categories to this shit. 1.00

04:40:39.160 There is. 1.00

04:40:39.740 There is. 0.99

04:40:40.260 There's categories to this shit, and let me finish. 1.00

04:40:42.880 That's gay. 1.00

04:40:43.980 You're going after a chick with a dick. 1.00

04:40:45.960 You don't blow their dick. 1.00

04:40:47.020 Yeah. 1.00

04:40:47.460 Thank you.

04:40:48.480 No. 0.99

04:40:48.960 But there's categories to this shit. 1.00

04:40:50.900 When you say it's gay, she doesn't get mad at you. 1.00

04:40:52.980 But when I say it, it's gay. 0.87

04:40:53.780 Because I can say it. 1.00

04:40:54.640 You are so ignorant. 1.00

04:40:55.040 You are so ignorant. 1.00

04:40:55.980 There's categories. 1.00

04:40:56.820 Ignorant. 1.00

04:40:57.240 There's categories to this shit. 1.00

04:40:58.640 There really isn't. 1.00

04:40:59.720 There's straight categories to this shit. 0.99

04:41:01.060 I appreciate whoever marries you. 0.99

04:41:01.740 Because if there can literally be a guy.

04:41:03.800 Let's say.

04:41:04.420 I'm not.

04:41:04.760 Okay.

04:41:05.100 Let's say for some.

04:41:06.020 In some crazy world.

04:41:07.600 Or no, no, no. 1.00

04:41:08.220 Let's say fucking speaking. 1.00

04:41:09.420 Like real world shit. 1.00

04:41:10.640 Whatever the fuck. 1.00

04:41:11.300 Sorry. 0.99

04:41:12.120 Let's go.

04:41:13.200 So let's say there's.

04:41:15.260 Or let's say for you example.

04:41:17.140 Or let's say they were.

04:41:18.580 I'm just using an example.

04:41:19.960 Okay.

04:41:20.080 I'm not saying you in general.

04:41:21.260 Just use an example.

04:41:22.460 You see a beautiful woman.

04:41:23.920 She's like five foot four.

04:41:25.820 She's like beautiful.

04:41:27.300 And you didn't know that she was trans.

04:41:30.520 And let's say she's fully operated.

04:41:32.220 You find her attractive, right?

04:41:34.280 You don't know she's trans. 0.72

04:41:36.240 You're attracted to her femininity. 0.98

04:41:38.360 And because you're attracted to her femininity.

04:41:41.480 You didn't know that she was a guy. 0.81

04:41:43.640 That's a completely different thing.

04:41:45.000 That wouldn't make you gay to find her attractive. 0.54

04:41:47.620 Thank you. 1.00

04:41:47.840 But to have sex with her. 1.00

04:41:49.000 But to have sex is a little bit more different. 0.98

04:41:51.800 Because some men can look past the fact.

04:41:55.180 Can I weigh in on that real quick?

04:41:56.520 If you end up sleeping.

04:41:57.580 I know now you're saving yourself for marriage.

04:41:58.920 But beforehand.

04:41:59.640 If you found out.

04:42:00.880 That one of the people you had slept with.

04:42:03.220 Actually was a biological male.

04:42:05.060 And find that out right away.

04:42:06.360 It's not the same.

04:42:07.220 You ain't be able to tell.

04:42:08.600 It's a surgical difference.

04:42:09.660 You can tell.

04:42:10.620 It's not.

04:42:11.000 He's flipping inside out.

04:42:11.900 You can tell.

04:42:12.940 You can't make a giant in a lab.

04:42:14.220 Listen.

04:42:14.740 You can't always tell.

04:42:16.360 Listen to me Kiko. 1.00

04:42:17.520 That's so ignorant. 1.00

04:42:18.680 As a man. 1.00

04:42:19.600 You think a guy wouldn't be able to tell.

04:42:21.260 A biological woman from somebody who's had. 0.99

04:42:22.880 Oh you'd be a man.

04:42:23.780 From somebody.

04:42:24.340 You'd be a man.

04:42:24.960 If you're sober.

04:42:26.780 If you're sober.

04:42:27.820 Seeing a biological woman.

04:42:29.020 Versus somebody who's had their.

04:42:30.280 You know.

04:42:30.620 Down there.

04:42:31.340 Hacked apart.

04:42:32.080 And re-sutured together.

04:42:33.500 Listen.

04:42:33.940 Bro.

04:42:34.160 You'd be able to tell.

04:42:34.920 Listen.

04:42:35.340 Listen.

04:42:35.740 No.

04:42:36.040 Listen to me.

04:42:36.960 Listen to me. 1.00

04:42:37.320 Something fucking else. 0.99

04:42:38.600 I can't. 1.00

04:42:38.940 You can tell.

04:42:39.760 Do you hear this God?

04:42:41.120 Do you hear other people?

04:42:42.040 He does.

04:42:42.380 He said don't mutilate your body.

04:42:44.540 As a man.

04:42:45.400 I can tell.

04:42:46.280 I know.

04:42:46.720 We can remove religion from this conversation. 0.99

04:42:48.580 But.

04:42:48.820 But.

04:42:49.240 Yeah.

04:42:49.680 Religion.

04:42:50.240 Religion completely removed. 1.00

04:42:51.940 Alright.

04:42:52.480 Last summer.

04:42:53.400 I went to Thailand with my friend.

04:42:54.940 We already heard this.

04:42:55.660 There is.

04:42:56.560 30% of the women.

04:42:58.420 30% of the men.

04:43:00.360 I should say.

04:43:01.540 Convert into women. 0.99

04:43:02.720 Making 15 of the pop.

04:43:04.680 15% of the population.

04:43:06.560 Lady boys. 0.78

04:43:07.540 Alright.

04:43:08.400 It's like a third gender. 0.99

04:43:09.520 Because of how prevalent it is.

04:43:11.300 Let me tell you.

04:43:12.300 I know when they're a lady boy. 0.99

04:43:14.000 They're very convincing.

04:43:16.460 They are very convincing.

04:43:17.800 They get their Adam's apple shaved down.

04:43:19.560 They get their jawline shaved down.

04:43:21.380 They do everything to present themselves as a woman. 1.00

04:43:25.280 Actually the most expensive thing that they have to go through is getting their dick chopped off. 1.00

04:43:30.580 And so they don't do that. 1.00

04:43:32.780 But let me tell you.

04:43:33.800 Let me tell you. 0.99

04:43:34.580 I'm not fucking done again. 0.99

04:43:35.640 Dude. 0.99

04:43:35.960 As a man.

04:43:36.900 I know that that's a dude.

04:43:38.420 It doesn't matter how feminine they present themselves. 0.96

04:43:40.380 Before she reage quits. 1.00

04:43:40.760 It doesn't matter.

04:43:41.460 I want to know why this.

04:43:42.680 What specifically is making you upset.

04:43:44.800 Yeah.

04:43:45.500 It's just.

04:43:46.720 I just can't believe that people.

04:43:49.140 You're upset because I know that trans women are. 1.00

04:43:50.980 I want to hear what she says.

04:43:51.300 I want to hear what she says.

04:43:52.180 Why are you upset?

04:43:52.800 I don't know what I'm saying.

04:43:53.760 It's just the laughing.

04:43:54.880 The giggling.

04:43:56.300 It's a joke to you guys.

04:43:57.740 And this is people's lives.

04:43:59.120 The people wake up.

04:44:01.100 Like they don't feel like they're in the right body.

04:44:02.940 And it's.

04:44:03.320 I've seen.

04:44:03.880 I work with kids.

04:44:04.760 I've seen the children.

04:44:05.600 It actually affects people.

04:44:07.100 And the.

04:44:07.720 The suicide rate in the trans community is already so high. 1.00

04:44:11.020 And this podcast has so many fucking views. 1.00

04:44:13.500 And you guys get up on here. 1.00

04:44:14.700 And just shit on them. 1.00

04:44:15.620 And just laugh all fucking time. 1.00

04:44:17.360 It's hateful as fuck. 1.00

04:44:18.380 Just let them fucking live their lives. 1.00

04:44:19.760 That's not what we're doing. 1.00

04:44:20.420 If they're not choosing.

04:44:20.880 If they're not bothering you.

04:44:21.820 If they're not trying to trap you into sleeping with them. 1.00

04:44:23.480 Just let them live their fucking lives. 1.00

04:44:25.040 They're not bothering you. 1.00

04:44:25.920 Why does it affect you so much?

04:44:27.460 Okay.

04:44:27.660 Okay.

04:44:27.900 Those are good questions.

04:44:28.980 No. 0.98

04:44:29.300 It's ridiculous. 0.99

04:44:30.260 Grow up. 0.99

04:44:31.140 Mature.

04:44:31.800 Mature.

04:44:32.080 Please let me respond to you.

04:44:33.520 Go ahead.

04:44:33.900 Please let me respond to you.

04:44:35.100 Those are good questions.

04:44:36.760 Why do we care so much if it affects us?

04:44:38.360 And also.

04:44:38.940 You know.

04:44:39.260 Calling out the insensitivity.

04:44:40.900 Look.

04:44:41.180 I have deep.

04:44:42.000 I don't know what it would be like to wake up every day.

04:44:44.640 And to feel like I was born in the wrong body.

04:44:46.560 Okay.

04:44:47.260 I don't know what that would be like.

04:44:48.600 And for people that are in that position.

04:44:50.260 I have compassion for them.

04:44:51.660 I can't imagine.

04:44:52.200 You don't.

04:44:52.500 If you had compassion. 1.00

04:44:53.220 You wouldn't be doing half the shit. 1.00

04:44:54.460 I'm laughing. 1.00

04:44:55.240 I'm laughing at how callously he's saying.

04:44:57.140 No.

04:44:57.520 You've been laughing all podcast.

04:44:58.660 That joke.

04:44:58.940 What were the jokes you laughing at about?

04:45:00.180 Please.

04:45:02.080 I have compassion for people that are in that position.

04:45:04.600 Okay.

04:45:05.220 And people like that need help.

04:45:07.860 Okay.

04:45:08.200 And there's.

04:45:09.440 Our society has different philosophies in terms of how we can help people like that.

04:45:13.260 You have like people on the left that want to do so-called gender affirming care. 0.91

04:45:17.020 In which people do get operations where their bodies end up mutilated.

04:45:21.860 And a lot of people end up severely regretting it after the fact.

04:45:26.060 And those people end up suicidal.

04:45:27.980 I read their stories all the time.

04:45:29.960 Stories of men.

04:45:30.920 Hold on.

04:45:31.160 Transitioners exist but that's not. 1.00

04:45:32.660 Hold on.

04:45:33.160 Hold on.

04:45:33.460 Hold on.

04:45:33.700 Let me just make my point. 0.99

04:45:35.780 I read a story on Twitter a few months ago of this guy who had his penis surgically removed. 0.99

04:45:42.020 And he woke up every day and was horrified at the decision that he had made with his life. 1.00

04:45:46.500 And he wanted to kill himself.

04:45:48.040 And the reason why someone like me cares is because this ideology.

04:45:53.220 You say let these people live their lives.

04:45:55.320 How does it affect you?

04:45:56.100 This ideology is penetrating all across our society and kids are now becoming propagandized with this.

04:46:02.860 The kid that you were talking about would have never thought that way before if they weren't exposed to it at a very, very young age.

04:46:08.520 He just said that he had no idea what that term was.

04:46:10.820 Let me just finish my point and you guys can respond.

04:46:13.820 If you look at the statistics of people that identify as LGBTQ right now compared to previous generations, it is exponentially increasing because it's not just people living their lives.

04:46:25.200 It's kids going to school, public schools, and their teachers telling them, hey, yeah, you can be a boy if you want to.

04:46:30.580 Hey, yeah, you can be a girl if you want to.

04:46:31.800 Because people learn that they want to get killed. 0.79

04:46:32.620 Let me just go.

04:46:32.820 Please hold on.

04:46:33.560 Please hold on.

04:46:34.320 Please.

04:46:34.640 You're long-winded.

04:46:35.700 Sorry.

04:46:36.140 I will listen to what you have to say.

04:46:37.440 I'm making important points here.

04:46:40.260 Kids in that position, when they're being told by authority figures, hey, yeah, you're actually a girl, those kids then are getting funneled towards getting irreversible procedures done and irreversible hormone therapy and puberty blockers and all this kind of stuff.

04:46:53.320 Puberty blockers are irreversible.

04:46:54.120 And it completely stunts people's development irreversibly, okay?

04:46:58.780 And you can go off of them.

04:46:59.440 As soon as you stop off of them, you can go off of them, but it changes people's development.

04:47:03.640 I do research all day on this, actually, so don't correct me on that.

04:47:06.100 I made a video on this for a news company, but continue.

04:47:08.700 The point is it is affecting a lot of people, and a lot of it is propaganda as well, and it is changing people's lives irreversibly, and children are ending up mutilated as a result of it.

04:47:19.840 And on top of that, a lot of these transgender procedures and surgeries do not significantly affect the suicide rate.

04:47:27.320 A lot of those people still are suicidal after the fact, and it's not, like, it's not care that's effective.

04:47:33.120 So I think that there should be—

04:47:35.260 Why I care about this?

04:47:35.960 There should be—I don't think that you should just be, like, one day be like, oh, I believe I'm a woman.

04:47:40.400 I believe I'm a male.

04:47:41.080 And you should be able to walk in and just get procedures or get hormone blockers or get anything.

04:47:44.140 Do you think kids should be able to be propagandized in school?

04:47:47.440 Propagandized?

04:47:47.900 That's a very strong word.

04:47:49.080 If a teacher is telling eight-year-olds you can be a girl if you want, is that okay?

04:47:51.820 If a teacher is telling kids it's okay to feel the way they're feeling, I think that is important, yes.

04:47:56.740 No, I don't think they should be saying, oh, you need to—yeah, change genders. 0.88

04:48:00.200 It's not just teachers telling them it's okay to feel the way you feel.

04:48:02.760 There's also a very big difference, though, in a teacher comforting a kid and be like, you know what?

04:48:05.400 It's not that they're saying, but, you know what? It's okay. I understand. Whatever.

04:48:08.580 But if a teacher is purposely going out of their way to be like, explain that kind of stuff, okay, yeah, I get it.

04:48:14.260 Not for a classroom.

04:48:14.880 If a kid, if I—for example, me. If I was—let's rewind to 10 years ago when I was like 12 or 11, whatever.

04:48:22.600 Let's say if I went to my teacher or my counselor and be like, you know what? I'm having these feelings, and I don't know if they're right or not.

04:48:29.540 And if she would have been like, at least—I'm not saying—she's not encouraging me, but she's like, you know what?

04:48:35.040 She's not—what's the word? She's not discrediting me either.

04:48:39.100 She's not shaming me. She's not doing anything else.

04:48:42.020 There's a big difference between the two.

04:48:43.900 But I don't think it's a teacher's place, and hopefully we can all agree with this.

04:48:46.780 Sex and body images and identification should not be the teacher's place. 0.95

04:48:50.900 That's between parents, and I think there's a big problem with the way that it's targeted our children in schools

04:48:56.540 and the way that the government has become the parents for society.

04:48:59.820 So I think there are two very unique issues, and I think after 21 or 18, whatever,

04:49:04.820 if you can go buy a handle of tequila, you can technically, legally do what you want to your body.

04:49:09.460 But should you is a very different conversation.

04:49:10.940 So under 18, you need parents' consent to do any of this, unless you're illegally consenting it.

04:49:15.180 I looked up all day—the last two days, since I knew it was coming back, I looked up this all day and night.

04:49:19.560 They're trying to change those laws. 0.96

04:49:20.760 There's also situations where the parents can be divorced, and they only need one parent to consent.

04:49:24.980 And it's against the other parents' will.

04:49:28.060 I would say that's wrong. I would say that's innately wrong.

04:49:30.360 I would think you need a parent's consent, but they're not—I think his name was DeSantis or whatever from Florida.

04:49:36.020 Ron?

04:49:36.120 It's making it seem like—

04:49:37.340 DeSantis?

04:49:38.280 The governor of Florida?

04:49:39.460 Yeah, sure.

04:49:39.920 He's making it seem like everyone just going out here and just getting all these mutilations and gender reconfirming surgeries.

04:49:45.620 The only—that's not happening.

04:49:47.700 The numbers are very, very low.

04:49:49.280 The only one that is becoming kind of prevalent is double mastectomies,

04:49:52.520 because it's really hard for them to stop that, because it's an actual medical procedure,

04:49:56.780 so it's hard for them to block that from happening.

04:49:59.620 But in order—kids aren't just getting gender-reforming surgeries.

04:50:04.660 Yet.

04:50:04.980 And I don't—I'm not—

04:50:05.800 Yet.

04:50:06.000 I'm not pushing for that to be, but that's not a problem we have right now.

04:50:08.860 The only trans community is, not all of them, of course, but there is a large group of people who are pushing this.

04:50:14.600 Like, the Pride Parade, Ron DeSantis just canceled.

04:50:17.360 He said, you will be charged, it will be illegal to sexualize children.

04:50:21.240 Do you have a Pride Parade?

04:50:22.220 There's no nudity, none of this.

04:50:23.260 They canceled the Pride Parade, because they said, we will not be able to do what we want to do, which is sexualize children.

04:50:28.580 So I think it goes hand-in-hand, because people know that the children are the future of this country,

04:50:32.140 and if you want to shove ideology down our throats, you do it with the children,

04:50:35.160 and you take away the parental rights in school and parental decisions.

04:50:38.360 At the end of the day, the kids are the most important part of society,

04:50:41.900 and I hope at the very least we can all agree that when you're an adult and you have your own decisions on your own body,

04:50:47.140 you can do what you want and what you truly believe in,

04:50:48.980 but why should a parent even be able to consent to their 12-year-old getting hormone change or getting on puberty blockers?

04:50:55.580 An adult, my mom, could not consent to me drinking a candle to peel until you're 14.

04:51:00.380 You can't start hormones until you're 14.

04:51:02.360 That's how it is.

04:51:03.260 You can do puberty blockers before that point, because puberty blockers are reversible.

04:51:07.240 The minute you stop puberty blockers, you will go through your natural biological puberty.

04:51:11.900 The only side effects we know right now is it might affect maybe your cholesterol or your bone density,

04:51:16.620 but you will go through all your puberties once you stop puberty blockers.

04:51:20.760 But why would you start and then stop?

04:51:22.700 Really quick.

04:51:23.220 I don't think, I just want to check you a little bit on this.

04:51:26.100 I don't think puberty blockers are reversible.

04:51:28.500 They are, 100%.

04:51:29.320 I don't think so either, but I look this up all day.

04:51:32.180 I've heard many times that they're not.

04:51:34.160 I've looked this up all, please do not discredit me,

04:51:36.520 because as soon as I knew I was coming on, you invited me back on,

04:51:38.860 I spent a lot of time researching this.

04:51:40.260 It's still...

04:51:40.800 They are reversible.

04:51:42.360 Hormones?

04:51:42.820 No.

04:51:43.220 Hormones are not reversible.

04:51:44.720 You will see the changes go away if you stop taking them.

04:51:46.940 But puberty blockers are 100% reversible.

04:51:49.420 Going through puberty at 14 versus 17 or 20 is a very big difference, though.

04:51:53.040 I don't know.

04:51:53.520 That's not biologically.

04:51:54.420 You can't delay a natural biological function, though.

04:51:58.320 That's what a puberty blocker is.

04:51:59.360 And that's toxic, poisonous, big pharma pills.

04:52:02.420 Everyone, please, please, please, Kiko, please.

04:52:06.280 There is a larger overarching point here, okay?

04:52:09.740 Which is that 10 years ago, if you spoke to somebody and you said,

04:52:13.660 hey, yeah, 10 years from now, like, a bunch of kids are going to want to become trans,

04:52:16.520 they would have been like, yeah, you're out of your mind.

04:52:17.820 That's not happening.

04:52:18.740 And look where we are now.

04:52:20.380 Kids, there's millions of views on TikToks from these trans people that are telling kids 1.00

04:52:25.240 things that are giving them gender dysphoria.

04:52:27.340 Teachers in schools have rainbow flags up on their walls, and they're telling...

04:52:31.260 It's not just kids...

04:52:32.660 A rainbow flag doesn't make a kid be trans.

04:52:34.440 Please just listen, okay?

04:52:35.740 Please just listen.

04:52:37.340 There's a difference between what you were saying a moment ago, which is, like, you know,

04:52:40.720 if you had gone to a counselor and you had gender dysphoria, and them hearing you and

04:52:44.180 just, like, being like, hey, like, I hear that you feel that way.

04:52:46.980 There's a difference between that and a kid going to a teacher and being like, hey, you

04:52:51.480 know, I have this confusion about my gender, and the teacher being like, yeah, well, you

04:52:55.000 can be a girl if you want to, because that's what's happening right now.

04:52:58.160 And to what Debra was saying a few moments ago, this is a tide that is quickly rising

04:53:03.940 in our society, and 10, 15, 20 years from now, who knows how much access kids will have

04:53:09.920 to these surgeries?

04:53:10.980 Who knows how many millions of kids are going to be mutilating their bodies because of this

04:53:15.280 ideology?

04:53:16.000 It is just continuing to grow and grow and grow and grow, and it's not stopping.

04:53:20.740 A couple of years ago, the World Health Organization released guidelines for European educators

04:53:25.680 instructing them to teach kids between the ages of 2 and 8 years old about masturbation

04:53:30.860 and gender fluidity. 1.00

04:53:31.840 There is an intentional agenda to push this trans ideology on humanity right now. 0.93

04:53:37.780 And you say right now it's not as big of a problem as people make it out to be, that

04:53:41.660 these surgeries are super rare.

04:53:43.460 What about 20 years from now?

04:53:44.940 Where is all of this going?

04:53:46.340 I'm not saying there shouldn't be regulations in place.

04:53:47.560 And how much, how big of a catastrophe is this going to be for our entire civilization?

04:53:52.820 I know you think it's hateful.

04:53:54.160 I know you think it's hateful for me to speak against this and be intolerant and all of this

04:53:59.880 kind of stuff.

04:54:00.500 The reason I'm doing it is because there are serious human casualties as a result of this.

04:54:04.820 And I speak up against all of this out of love.

04:54:08.340 Who's died?

04:54:08.880 All of the people that have gotten transgender surgeries and then regretted it and killed 1.00

04:54:12.120 themselves after the fact.

04:54:12.620 How about all the people who have been prevented from getting the help they need?

04:54:15.560 Transgenders have the same suicide rate as Jews in Nazi Germany in concentration camps.

04:54:19.960 You can't tell me transgenders in America are treated worse than Jews in Nazi Germany. 0.72

04:54:24.720 And the suicide rate is the same before and after gender transition surgery.

04:54:28.260 Exactly.

04:54:28.700 But listen, I have a different take on this.

04:54:30.760 Meaning that it makes no difference.

04:54:31.480 I don't say this stuff because I want to be offensive or hateful or get clicks or views.

04:54:35.320 I think that this is a very sensitive issue.

04:54:37.540 And just like abortion, it needs to be spoken with the highest level of respect and sensitivity

04:54:41.740 because I feel for these people.

04:54:43.560 I can't, like you said, I can't imagine what it's like to be at war with my own body and

04:54:47.260 to not feel comfortable with my own body.

04:54:48.660 I've dealt with insecurities.

04:54:49.840 I couldn't imagine it being deeper than that.

04:54:51.540 I truly feel for these people and I want them to receive the care that they need on an individual

04:54:55.980 basis.

04:54:56.820 But when it comes to children, we need to protect children from this ideology.

04:55:00.520 And I think those are two very different issues that get conflated together.

04:55:04.400 Like, oh, if a 35-year-old wants to do whatever they want, that's up to them.

04:55:08.100 But speaking on children, nobody under 18 should be mutilating their body, even if their parent

04:55:12.500 consents, because they're children.

04:55:14.040 I think your brain's not developed until you're 25.

04:55:16.220 I know.

04:55:16.640 That's what I'm saying.

04:55:17.340 I think a lot of the argument comes from people talking about different things.

04:55:21.460 Like we're talking about kids a lot.

04:55:23.180 And I think we need to clarify that.

04:55:25.580 I know you never said that they should, but there's a lot of people who want that for kids.

04:55:29.100 Okay, that's what we're talking about here.

04:55:30.160 You wanted to go.

04:55:31.020 Go ahead.

04:55:31.900 So where my stance comes into this with the whole children thing is that we never once

04:55:38.840 brought up kids.

04:55:40.300 We brought up the fact about a man saying if he's gay or not.

04:55:43.920 I agree with you.

04:55:44.540 Let's try to stick to that one.

04:55:46.320 That's the whole point of me sticking.

04:55:47.520 Yes.

04:55:47.820 However, when it does come to kids, because it was already brought up, whatever, do I

04:55:52.320 think, do I agree that like transes used to be like in everybody's face? 1.00

04:55:56.240 Absolutely not.

04:55:57.300 However, I'm also not saying that if a kid comes and asks for help because their feelings

04:56:04.180 are in waste, I feel like those resources shouldn't be shunned.

04:56:08.780 I feel like they should be available.

04:56:10.800 Like therapy.

04:56:11.760 What do you mean those resources?

04:56:12.520 Yes.

04:56:12.620 Those resources.

04:56:13.120 Psycho and evaluations.

04:56:14.080 What resources?

04:56:14.840 Like, for example.

04:56:16.060 Yes.

04:56:16.180 Psychological help.

04:56:16.880 Absolutely.

04:56:17.960 So because, well, let's be honest.

04:56:19.580 A couple of years ago, transes wasn't about, wasn't, it wasn't so, it wasn't so accessible

04:56:25.340 as the word?

04:56:26.000 I don't know the word.

04:56:26.780 Gender affirming care wasn't a thing. 1.00

04:56:28.180 It wasn't so, it wasn't so easy to grasp onto, in other words.

04:56:30.240 It wasn't easy for me to get my hormones.

04:56:31.600 It wasn't easy for me to get my hormones.

04:56:32.640 I had to go to therapy for months just to prove that I wasn't crazy.

04:56:36.800 But now it has, you recognize that now it's become so easy.

04:56:39.640 Yeah.

04:56:39.860 So I recognize that the now, especially now because even, not even just kids, but like,

04:56:45.460 for example, gay men, they see, they see the dolls.

04:56:49.120 They get, we get all the trade.

04:56:50.240 We got, we have all the blue check works.

04:56:52.440 We got bodies on bodies on bodies.

04:56:54.340 Certified baddies 24 seven. 0.93

04:56:55.980 And some gay guys will literally transition just to pull straight men. 0.88

04:57:01.560 Yeah. 0.57

04:57:02.300 And then, they'll literally get the full.

04:57:03.840 Don't you think that that's like a point, proving his point?

04:57:06.280 I know, but.

04:57:07.060 I already said that that's.

04:57:07.880 But that's something.

04:57:08.660 That's wrong.

04:57:09.080 That's my point.

04:57:09.940 Like, I feel like when people do the hormone replacement therapy, it needs to be taken

04:57:14.260 seriously.

04:57:14.840 It shouldn't be so easy to, like, so easy, easily to grasp onto.

04:57:19.300 I have a question for you.

04:57:20.360 I respect that.

04:57:20.620 And I don't think you guys.

04:57:22.140 I just want to clarify.

04:57:22.660 When it comes to the gay men too, it's like, you guys do these things.

04:57:25.880 And you guys want, you guys all to get all these straight boys. 0.68

04:57:27.980 And, oh, I have all the straight men, whatever.

04:57:30.080 Then what happens after?

04:57:31.460 Those are the two transitioners.

04:57:32.760 So, I just. 1.00

04:57:33.300 Those are the people who regret getting the gender-affirming surgery and ass and titties 1.00

04:57:36.520 and growing up their hair. 1.00

04:57:37.560 It's not just gay guys.

04:57:38.240 Yeah.

04:57:38.900 But if they do it for the wrong reasons, do it because you genuinely feel like this

04:57:41.960 and not because you're trying to get attention from the opposite sex.

04:57:44.340 Okay.

04:57:45.160 So, question for Kiko.

04:57:46.800 Kind of the original thing was, trying to direct it back here, is Chase said that his

04:57:54.800 view is that it would be homosexual, it would be gay, for a biological man, a biological male, 0.68

04:58:03.300 to sleep with another biological male. 0.59

04:58:05.340 Do you agree or disagree with that?

04:58:08.120 I do not find it gay if a biological male chooses to sleep with a trans woman.

04:58:15.380 No, no, no. 0.85

04:58:15.840 Hold on.

04:58:16.100 Just a point of clarification.

04:58:17.000 That's my answer, Brian.

04:58:18.220 A biolog.

04:58:18.640 That's my answer, Brian.

04:58:19.620 That's my answer, Brian.

04:58:20.320 Let me revise my question a little further. 0.91

04:58:23.180 Is it homosexual or is it gay? 0.91

04:58:25.660 Again, I'm not saying it's wrong, but is it gay or homosexual for a biological male to sleep 1.00

04:58:32.420 or have sex with, is it gay for a biological male to have sex with another biological male? 0.96

04:58:41.520 I feel like you need to answer this because I don't know. 0.98

04:58:43.860 I feel like you're based.

04:58:44.460 I already answered the question. 0.99

04:58:45.720 If they are a trans woman in touch with their femininity, they are, I fucking can't even say 1.00

04:58:52.380 the word, projecting themselves, the female feminine woman in society, and that's what 1.00

04:58:56.580 they're attracted to?

04:58:57.460 No, Brian. 0.99

04:58:58.120 You can ask me the question in as many ways as you fucking want. 0.97

04:59:00.100 You've asked me this three times over on this podcast. 0.98

04:59:01.800 That's my answer, though.

04:59:03.800 Let's not horn up.

04:59:04.540 Let's be real. 1.00

04:59:05.140 It's like, it's only gay if they're after their dick. 1.00

04:59:06.660 Yes. 1.00

04:59:07.260 If you want a lady boy who's more of a lady boy who has that, then. 1.00

04:59:10.260 It's only gay if they're after their dick. 1.00

04:59:11.760 Like, let's be real. 1.00

04:59:12.660 Okay. 1.00

04:59:12.960 If a guy literally was just fucking harassing me because he knew he had a penis, sorry, 1.00

04:59:16.800 bro, you're fucking gay. 1.00

04:59:18.180 Like, go get a guy out there. 1.00

04:59:20.640 I genuinely want to deal with a man who can look past the fact that they're like, you

04:59:24.880 know what?

04:59:26.060 You're trans, but that's not who you are as a person. 1.00

04:59:28.400 Like, I view you as feminine. 1.00

04:59:30.460 Like, I view you as a woman.

04:59:31.940 I can look past the fact of that. 0.99

04:59:34.080 But if that man is solely seeking me out just because I have a penis, no, that's gay. 0.98

04:59:40.800 But can't you be a feminine man without transitioning to, I mean, I don't believe in transitioning. 0.98

04:59:44.780 Let me just ask you something real quick. 0.96

04:59:46.460 That's a gay man.

04:59:47.000 I'm a trans woman.

04:59:47.460 No, I know people that aren't, guys that aren't necessarily gay.

04:59:50.140 I mean, I know guys that are gay and very masculine, and I know guys that are straight

04:59:53.700 and very feminine.

04:59:54.700 I, like, Jeffree Star is a great example.

04:59:56.620 I've always thought that stuff's based.

04:59:58.380 If you like makeup, you like hair.

04:59:59.560 I love that stuff.

05:00:00.480 I can totally understand people doing that.

05:00:02.580 But he knows that he is not a woman, no matter what he does. 0.99

05:00:06.300 He's a gay man.

05:00:07.180 No, the way that he partakes in makeup and hair, but knows that he's not a girl. 0.52

05:00:11.500 That's good that you brought it up.

05:00:12.660 Because, honestly, like, I'm still even learning about all the genders or whatever.

05:00:18.120 Like, honestly, because back in my day, like, I grew up on trans YouTube with the words,

05:00:21.840 like, you're either straight, gay, or trans.

05:00:25.460 Yeah.

05:00:25.940 You're Gigi Gorgeous.

05:00:26.660 Yeah, and Gigi Gorgeous, and Nikita came around a little longer. 1.00

05:00:30.380 I want you to consider something, all right?

05:00:31.580 Because you're a trans woman, meaning that you were a man and you transitioned to a woman, 0.95

05:00:35.900 correct?

05:00:36.400 Yes.

05:00:36.820 I think that there's something more insidious going on that Billy could probably speak

05:00:41.120 to much more knowledgeably than I can, which is the testosterone epidemic in our country,

05:00:46.700 which I think is a factor in men that want to, that think that they're women.

05:00:52.460 I think that because of the environmental factors, because of the food they're eating,

05:00:57.340 because of the chemicals that are sprayed on the crops and in the environment, as well

05:01:01.360 as many other factors that, like I said, Billy is much more knowledgeable on than I am,

05:01:05.120 are a factor in very low testosterone in men.

05:01:09.040 And as a man, when I felt low in testosterone, I feel terrible. 1.00

05:01:13.700 I feel like a bitch. 0.99

05:01:15.260 I feel like I can't- 1.00

05:01:16.080 Does it make you want to be a woman? 0.98

05:01:17.380 No.

05:01:17.860 Okay, so what's the point?

05:01:18.760 But it could be contributing to it.

05:01:22.160 And my point is that if you were to, what if you were feeling like, you know, what if

05:01:27.440 you're a man and you're feeling like you're a woman, what if instead of getting hormones

05:01:31.100 to affirm what you thought in your head was true, instead you got hormones to affirm

05:01:35.880 what your gender was at birth?

05:01:37.240 What if you got testosterone and you felt more like a man?

05:01:40.260 Do you think that that would make a change in your life versus if you were at a low point

05:01:44.560 in testosterone as a man versus getting hormones as a woman, to become a woman?

05:01:50.240 Into the mic.

05:01:51.320 Absolutely not.

05:01:52.400 And I'm going to say this now.

05:01:54.160 You know, I'm so much more happier with myself and my transition and comfortable in my skin

05:02:02.400 and everything because I did it for myself.

05:02:07.220 I'm happy for you for that.

05:02:08.720 And I'm very, and I've never felt more at peace and at one with myself.

05:02:14.480 Now, ask me that before I was 19 years old when I started transitioning.

05:02:19.000 I was depressed.

05:02:20.500 Uh-huh.

05:02:20.940 I was unhappy with myself.

05:02:22.700 And that's my point.

05:02:23.840 And everything like that.

05:02:24.180 And I tried to be, uh, I even tried dating girls in middle school, I remember, but like, 0.62

05:02:31.700 I tried just to be a gay man.

05:02:33.340 Well, it's different than-

05:02:34.140 I tried to do all of that.

05:02:35.380 Sexuality is different than gender. 1.00

05:02:36.660 Yeah.

05:02:36.980 Well, I know.

05:02:37.620 But my point is that I tried to live like a man at one point. 0.60

05:02:40.640 It's not like I just full on-

05:02:41.920 You tried to, but what I'm saying is that your testosterone levels were so low that you

05:02:46.200 couldn't feel like a man.

05:02:47.540 Not necessarily.

05:02:48.620 How do you know her testosterone levels where you have no idea what her- 0.97

05:02:50.660 But what I'm saying is that I tried to live like a gay man and as a man.

05:02:55.680 What is true about testosterone is that the saying your father was more man than you holds 0.95

05:03:00.800 true.

05:03:01.380 Testosterone levels have decreased, but it doesn't necessarily mean that your testosterone levels

05:03:05.060 were low.

05:03:05.920 So we don't-

05:03:06.860 That doesn't always correlate.

05:03:09.160 Okay.

05:03:09.460 But in other words, no, I would have not been happy as a man.

05:03:13.820 I genuinely don't know if I would be here.

05:03:16.020 Yeah.

05:03:16.660 And-

05:03:17.140 I'm glad you're here.

05:03:18.400 Yeah.

05:03:18.780 Me too.

05:03:19.300 Thank you guys.

05:03:20.220 But like I said, for a lot of people thinking like that you think it's a choice for us to

05:03:24.560 do this kind of stuff, yeah, technically it is one, but it's something that comes so naturally

05:03:29.600 to us that we don't feel like it's a choice.

05:03:32.480 You know?

05:03:33.080 Like, this is something that came so natural to me.

05:03:36.880 Like, ask any one of my babysitters.

05:03:38.820 Look back at my home footage. 1.00

05:03:40.140 Like, I was fucking stealing my fucking aunt's- 0.99

05:03:42.740 She used to be a bartender at a strip club. 1.00

05:03:44.480 I would walk around in her stripper heels because I used to love the feminine- 1.00

05:03:48.440 The femininity of it.

05:03:50.000 Like, that's all it is.

05:03:51.220 Like, it's something that came so natural to me and it did not feel forced.

05:03:55.760 What felt forced was having-

05:03:58.380 Being 17, getting my senior portraits taken and having to cut all my hair off because I

05:04:03.880 wanted to please my family.

05:04:05.540 That felt forced.

05:04:07.140 What felt forced was not being able to go by the name that I wanted to be in my high school

05:04:11.620 yearbook.

05:04:12.340 What felt forced was having to stand up in front of a Christian church and let my dad try 0.84

05:04:17.480 to hook me up with some other little Christian girl there. 0.99

05:04:19.880 Yeah.

05:04:20.620 Because that felt forced.

05:04:22.520 That stuff that feels forced.

05:04:24.700 I'm glad that you feel comfortable now and that you are here with us because ultimately

05:04:29.520 that's the most important thing.

05:04:30.760 Life is sacred and you're loved.

05:04:33.700 But to get back to the point we were talking about earlier, I don't think that children-

05:04:38.480 I don't think that it's right for children and you agree with that. 1.00

05:04:43.980 He's going to go back to the children- 0.94

05:04:45.120 I do.

05:04:45.260 That was never the point of the conversation.

05:04:47.040 So we can basically wait for that.

05:04:48.280 I want to make a point.

05:04:48.980 Final point and then we're going to attempt to wrap.

05:04:52.020 Oh, you want?

05:04:52.740 It's like a wrap-up final point before we go.

05:04:54.360 Okay.

05:04:54.940 Okay.

05:04:55.360 And then we're going to wrap.

05:04:56.300 Part of the reason I care about this is not-

05:04:58.860 I don't want to be, like, hateful towards people or, like, I don't want to make anybody

05:05:04.320 feel badly about themselves.

05:05:06.180 Okay.

05:05:06.520 And Kiko, this point is addressed to you.

05:05:08.000 Part of the reason-

05:05:08.780 Part of the reason why I care about this is because you said that you've come back to

05:05:13.520 the church and one of the things that we can obviously agree on is the value of Jesus,

05:05:17.220 right?

05:05:19.480 Yeah.

05:05:21.680 Why did Jesus give his life on the cross?

05:05:24.060 For our sins.

05:05:25.000 For our sins.

05:05:25.660 And there's a lot of different sins that preclude us from entering the kingdom of heaven,

05:05:29.720 right?

05:05:33.100 Ultimately, this whole, this ideology that's spreading throughout our society, one of the

05:05:36.860 reasons why I have a problem with it is because many people, they ground their entire identity

05:05:43.320 in whatever their sexuality or gender is, okay?

05:05:46.740 And that identity, they see that as incompatible with the Bible and Christ, and they, a lot of

05:05:52.420 them will go their entire lives without ever even looking at God because they're like,

05:05:55.660 well, God made me this way, so God obviously must have made a mistake.

05:05:58.780 So, screw Christianity, right? 0.89

05:06:01.620 One of the things that Jesus said, people who will not inherit the kingdom of heaven are 0.99

05:06:06.320 the sexually immoral and those that are effeminate as well.

05:06:09.820 There's a lot of different categories, idolaters, adulterers, like there's a billion different 0.59

05:06:13.860 categories.

05:06:14.800 Sexual immorality, according to Christ and his apostles and God throughout the Old Testament,

05:06:19.700 this covers everything that is outside of heterosexual sex between a man and a woman within marriage.

05:06:27.900 Any sex that happens outside of that precludes a person from going to the kingdom of heaven.

05:06:32.700 So, you're not going to heaven?

05:06:34.340 Well, my sins have been paid for by the blood of Christ, and I've repented of this.

05:06:38.880 Hold on, hold on, hold on.

05:06:40.160 So, can she not do the same?

05:06:41.400 I've repented of the sins that I had, okay?

05:06:45.120 The people who are continuing to engage in sexual immorality, who reject the grace that

05:06:49.800 God gave us, like, they're not going to heaven.

05:06:52.400 And I want to see you get to heaven.

05:06:54.220 Like, I don't hate you as a person.

05:06:55.480 I love you as a person.

05:06:56.360 I want to see you get to heaven. 0.97

05:06:57.380 I want to see everybody who's trans and gay. 0.99

05:06:59.260 I want to see all of them go to heaven, right? 0.99

05:07:02.640 But there's a contradiction here between what you're saying is okay and what God said is

05:07:06.600 okay.

05:07:06.840 And this is why it's important to me.

05:07:08.320 And this ideology will lead millions of people to hell.

05:07:11.200 And I don't want to see that happen.

05:07:12.300 Okay.

05:07:12.740 You finished?

05:07:13.580 All right.

05:07:13.900 So, my wrap-up statement was basically I will continue to do this, come up on this podcast,

05:07:18.600 any podcast.

05:07:19.440 I have.

05:07:19.920 Sorry.

05:07:20.240 Hold on, Kiko. 0.67

05:07:20.880 You've donated $200.31.

05:07:24.820 Mutilation shouldn't be given to neither mentally ill individuals nor children as a means to obtain

05:07:30.120 acceptance.

05:07:31.400 The sick should seek cure.

05:07:33.060 The innocent should seek guidance.

05:07:34.840 Permanent decisions shouldn't be made for all by vulnerable individuals. 0.96

05:07:39.660 We already spent a lot of time on that.

05:07:40.420 Eve, thank you for that.

05:07:40.940 Yeah.

05:07:41.160 Anyways.

05:07:41.440 Appreciate it.

05:07:41.860 Amen.

05:07:42.060 Wrap it up.

05:07:42.600 I will continue to come on this podcast.

05:07:45.880 I don't care how many people want to call me the T-slur, say all the debates of how

05:07:50.720 if I'm transgender or not.

05:07:52.220 You guys can do all of that.

05:07:53.660 I will continue to fight for people like Ali who I believe have a right to live the life

05:07:57.380 that they rightfully deserve and feel like they were born into because you know what? 0.96

05:08:00.620 It doesn't fucking affect me. 0.96

05:08:02.340 I don't sleep bad at night because Ali is on hormones or any other trans woman or trans 1.00

05:08:07.520 man out there. 0.99

05:08:08.480 I know how to mind my fucking business and live my life. 0.99

05:08:11.220 So I will continue to use my platform and my voice to speak for people who can't because 0.98

05:08:16.100 me, my Jesus, I believe in acceptance, tolerance.

05:08:20.280 I know that she, you, Jesus is not tolerant.

05:08:22.900 Let me finish.

05:08:23.960 Just how you repented your sins.

05:08:25.520 She can go and repent hers too and get into the gates of heaven as well. 0.95

05:08:28.960 So we should all just live our lives, mind our business as long as we're not hurting somebody

05:08:32.680 else or anyone else's happiness.

05:08:34.940 So you're acknowledging that she would need to in order to get into heaven?

05:08:37.300 No, I'm saying in your mind, in your opinion, in your rightful opinion.

05:08:40.620 I'm just telling you what the Bible says.

05:08:42.160 Okay.

05:08:42.580 According to the Bible, she can repent and still go to heaven.

05:08:45.800 I hope she does.

05:08:46.060 I think we're past this.

05:08:47.220 Like it's not just necessarily.

05:08:48.460 Yes, but I also just want to add that I don't think it's necessarily just living your life

05:08:52.100 undisturbed.

05:08:53.020 Like that's a very libertarian take.

05:08:54.560 If you want to dress and act how you want and live your best life, good.

05:08:57.720 A happy, a miserable individual does not make for a happy society, but there are places

05:09:02.180 where it is affecting people like what you agreed was wrong, that if men are on these

05:09:06.400 dating apps and they match with somebody who does not openly admit that they're trans

05:09:10.360 before going on a date, that is hurting men. 0.86

05:09:12.580 And with women, I am not okay with transgenders using the women's bathroom. 1.00

05:09:16.900 That is wrong. 0.97

05:09:17.580 Yes.

05:09:17.920 That is wrong.

05:09:18.580 It's women's spaces. 1.00

05:09:20.400 Because that is something that affects me, women in sports, women in, men in, women's 0.99

05:09:24.100 You say, oh, we're trying to go home right now.

05:09:25.880 No, I'm trying to go home too.

05:09:26.760 We have a two hour drive to LA, but this stuff matters.

05:09:29.320 It's not that trans doesn't hurt anybody. 1.00

05:09:30.980 It's hurting women like Riley Gaines. 1.00

05:09:32.980 It's giving rewards to people like Leah Thomas who stole from women.

05:09:36.460 It's hurting all these people who are getting into Dylan.

05:09:39.220 I won't go on that.

05:09:40.620 I'm not going to pull Michael and Matt Wolfe.

05:09:42.740 Listen.

05:09:43.180 But it does affect us and it's not just live your best life.

05:09:46.640 It's live your life and use your own bathroom and let women have women's spaces and let 1.00

05:09:49.980 trans individuals live their life.

05:09:51.760 I just want to say you're saying you're going to continue fighting for it and she's raising

05:09:56.100 an important point.

05:09:57.380 I just want to say it in my women's spaces, but live your best life because there's an

05:10:00.340 important distinction between live your life in a way that doesn't affect people and then

05:10:04.500 there's ways that affect people.

05:10:05.700 Like women who no longer can get opportunities in sports because men are dominating women's 0.99

05:10:09.620 sports and using the locker rooms and using the gym.

05:10:12.420 All of these things are wrong.

05:10:14.220 Just walk out.

05:10:14.740 Just walk out.

05:10:14.820 These take away from women. 0.97

05:10:16.280 Just walk out.

05:10:17.080 She's making important points.

05:10:18.400 It's Brian's podcast, not yours.

05:10:19.300 She's making important points.

05:10:20.560 You've been letting him run your all podcast.

05:10:21.080 Just walk out.

05:10:22.280 Because he invited me to co-host, Kiko.

05:10:24.700 He invited me to co-host.

05:10:25.920 Say a co, co, co, co. 0.99

05:10:27.440 Let her make her point.

05:10:28.700 And if you don't want to hear it, then just walk out.

05:10:30.860 You don't have to stay.

05:10:31.780 Nobody's keeping you against your will.

05:10:33.080 I don't have to stay, but I don't want to.

05:10:34.140 Look, I'm sure if you hear things you don't like, you're just going to talk over people

05:10:37.680 because you can't just have a conversation.

05:10:39.300 I just want to go home.

05:10:40.240 We're doing wrap up statements because it's 1230.

05:10:42.260 Then go home.

05:10:42.700 Yes, that was my wrap up statement.

05:10:43.940 That's not a wrap up.

05:10:44.580 If you want to live a life that doesn't affect people in your sense, you want to wear a dress in

05:10:49.040 your daytime, that is fine with me.

05:10:51.120 Like, I'm not going to say do that, but like that is not hurting people.

05:10:54.160 But there is a lot of the trans ideology that is taking away from women, that is hurting

05:10:58.220 women, like women's spaces, women's sports, women's locker rooms, women's dressing rooms. 1.00

05:11:02.440 It is actually affecting women. 0.99

05:11:04.320 Riley Gaines was just beat up, literally giving a speech about this.

05:11:08.440 So it's not just la-di-da-di-da, do whatever you want.

05:11:11.400 People are being affected and raising up these trans rights is taking away from women's rights 0.95

05:11:16.420 and I will not stand for that.

05:11:17.940 But I also stand for liberty and freedom and there is a balance and it's a very thin line

05:11:22.560 and we don't just go, oh, do whatever you want, cross the line.

05:11:25.300 We need to protect women and also allow people to live liberty and enjoy their freedoms. 0.99

05:11:30.360 And protect kids too.

05:11:31.500 And protect kids.

05:11:32.540 Do we all get a wrap up statement?

05:11:33.620 So, honestly, like, I respect your opinion because I'm going to try to wrap very soon.

05:11:39.300 I 110% completely agree.

05:11:41.940 There are a lot of things that trans women don't go through that cis women would. 0.82

05:11:46.780 I completely, 110% understand.

05:11:50.440 But with that being said, wouldn't you rather accept women, trans women, into your circle

05:11:57.400 to be like, you know what, yeah, like we fight for the exact same things, we fight for everything.

05:12:00.560 Like, a lot of the time, 90% of the time, you know, with the exception of sports and everything

05:12:05.480 because I'm not too educated on that, trans women just want to blend. 1.00

05:12:11.440 But I don't want to be blended. 1.00

05:12:12.680 Sorry, sorry.

05:12:13.420 I just want to blend and be with you guys, you know.

05:12:16.700 And that's for me speaking for myself.

05:12:18.680 Straight into the mic, please.

05:12:19.900 I just want to be able to be normal.

05:12:23.100 Like, that's all I want to do.

05:12:24.080 Like, I want to go into the restroom, be able to use the restroom and whatever, you know. 0.61

05:12:28.380 Like, I just want, and like I said, I completely respect the fact that I'm never going to be,

05:12:32.860 I'm never going to understand a lot of the things that cis women go through when it comes to, you know,

05:12:36.820 things that they go through with their bodies or certain discrimination issues, everything like that.

05:12:40.500 I'm not going to understand that.

05:12:42.000 The same way that you wouldn't understand, you know, like my dysphoria with everything like that, you know.

05:12:46.160 But at the end of the day, wouldn't you want to have someone in your corner who is, you know, being like,

05:12:52.220 yes, like, we stand for the same, not maybe not everything the same, but similar things.

05:12:57.740 So I hear you on that.

05:12:58.920 And just off the cusp, I want to say that I do have deep respect for you.

05:13:02.380 You've come here and you've presented your points and you've held your logic in a way that I agree with a lot of the things that you say.

05:13:07.560 And I don't think you have your heads in the clouds.

05:13:09.560 I think you, I think your logic is good and solid.

05:13:12.340 And so I have respect for that.

05:13:13.360 But in terms of, like, wanting to blend, I understand that on your side.

05:13:17.660 But women fought very hard to have women's rights and women's safe places. 1.00

05:13:22.140 And I don't think someone's willing, wanting to blend supersedes my wanting to be away from a man in the restroom.

05:13:28.160 Because in my eyes, I can respect you.

05:13:30.300 I can tell you my favorite makeup products.

05:13:31.680 I can show you my favorite places to shop.

05:13:33.200 But at the end of the day, I don't want someone who was ever a man using the space that I feel unsafe in.

05:13:39.340 In the same way that I would not feel comfortable getting undressed around a lesbian. 1.00

05:13:42.180 In the same way that a trans man, in that sense.

05:13:44.420 So women's spaces should be protected at large. 1.00

05:13:47.560 And I think, yeah, I just don't think.

05:13:49.960 So you want her to use the men's restroom? 1.00

05:13:51.360 I think there should be a third restroom. 1.00

05:13:53.860 But until that happens, you think right now she should use the men's restroom? 1.00

05:13:56.620 Yeah.

05:13:57.120 Yes.

05:13:57.660 Yes.

05:13:58.080 Absolutely.

05:13:58.920 One of the problems.

05:14:00.080 No, let me ask something before you answer that question.

05:14:02.700 Wouldn't you think that it would jeopardize my safety, though, walking into the restroom? 0.99

05:14:05.820 But wouldn't it jeopardize my safety if men identifying as women come into the bathroom and rape women under the guise of transgender? 0.98

05:14:11.100 For people who are not transgender, there's people who manipulate and they take what you've gone through and struggled through through your life, and they take that to their advantage. 0.98

05:14:19.000 And they say, oh, I'm going to put a dress on and go in the bathroom and pretend I'm trans.

05:14:22.240 And they haven't actually struggled with gender dysphoria and gone through the problems, and they're taking advantage of the situation. 0.64

05:14:27.520 And that's the women that I'm trying to protect. 0.83

05:14:29.440 There was a 14-year-old who was raped in a bathroom at her high school, and her dad went by his...

05:14:33.100 Let's use essay. 0.91

05:14:34.460 Sorry.

05:14:35.060 I'm so sorry about that.

05:14:36.620 I forgot that was about that.

05:14:37.480 No, but to even further bolster her point, too, I've seen a number of articles where men will get convicted of crimes, and then they will identify as women right before they go to trial, and then they will get sent to women's prisons, and they will grape the women that are there at the prison.

05:14:54.880 And impregnate them. 0.96

05:14:55.800 And impregnate them. 0.96

05:14:57.020 That is a problem.

05:14:57.560 Multiple women, right? 1.00

05:14:58.620 Like, this...

05:14:59.800 I understand that, like, you want to blend, and you want to, like, be around women and all that kind of stuff, but, like...

05:15:06.300 Wait, you're leaving, Kiko?

05:15:07.520 I'm not rage quitting.

05:15:08.440 It's just it's 1230.

05:15:09.380 You can admit it.

05:15:10.100 I'm hungry.

05:15:10.780 No, I'm not upset at all.

05:15:12.020 It's just...

05:15:12.500 This is why I was saying this is not a wrap-up statement, because we're about to unload a whole new conversation.

05:15:16.620 We're about to be here until 1 a.m.

05:15:18.000 Really quick.

05:15:18.800 Wait, Kiko, really...

05:15:20.300 Two things.

05:15:20.820 Two things really quick before you leave.

05:15:22.100 Two things, okay?

05:15:23.240 Like, my boyfriend is like...

05:15:24.280 I was supposed to be home by 12.

05:15:26.800 Do you want to watch a Tate clip before you leave?

05:15:28.980 No, really.

05:15:31.100 Okay, here, let me try to line the mood.

05:15:34.680 Chase is a Christian... 0.82

05:15:36.120 The mood's fine.

05:15:37.260 I'm not leaving because I'm mad.

05:15:38.500 It's 1230 a.m.

05:15:40.500 Like, I was not planning to be here for this long.

05:15:42.440 Should we talk about abortion?

05:15:44.520 Do you want to talk about abortion really quick?

05:15:46.960 Just throwing it out.

05:15:48.600 Kiko, don't...

05:15:49.920 Bye, Kiko.

05:15:50.520 Nice speaking with you tonight.

05:15:52.820 I was being serious.

05:15:54.120 I'm not confused.

05:15:55.120 Because I really...

05:15:56.500 I really thought I could get past it, but...

05:16:00.000 Well, I just...

05:16:01.060 Drive safe.

05:16:02.840 What?

05:16:03.580 Sorry, I don't want to leave like that.

05:16:04.720 Oh.

05:16:05.940 Welcome back.

05:16:06.920 Hi, I'm back again.

05:16:07.840 My problem is not really even your beliefs or what you stand for or how this conversation

05:16:13.020 has gone to the last point.

05:16:14.400 Honestly, I'm more upset with how you've conducted yourself earlier in the podcast.

05:16:18.500 It was very unprofessional, in my opinion.

05:16:20.120 Okay.

05:16:20.300 It was actually kind of all of you on that side.

05:16:22.180 For giggling?

05:16:23.460 Yeah.

05:16:23.860 Okay.

05:16:24.220 Learn how to conduct yourself properly.

05:16:25.920 I could say the same to you.

05:16:28.460 Uh-huh.

05:16:30.120 Have a good night, Kiko.

05:16:33.680 So, um...

05:16:34.760 Listen, Brian, I'd just like the panel to know that I'm all right with trans women in women's

05:16:43.500 sports as long as I can bet.

05:16:48.560 As long as you can what? 1.00

05:16:49.900 That's a stupid joke. 1.00

05:16:51.660 As long as I can bet on them. 1.00

05:16:53.340 As long as you can bet on them.

05:16:53.360 As long as you can bet on them.

05:16:54.540 At the end of the day, I...

05:16:56.560 10,000 on the one...

05:16:58.000 If it was a way that didn't affect me, I wouldn't have a sincere problem with it.

05:17:01.660 Okay, so...

05:17:02.600 But if it does, I'd care.

05:17:05.020 It's late.

05:17:05.480 As you should.

05:17:06.120 It's late.

05:17:06.940 I'd like to wrap up.

05:17:08.740 I appreciate you guys.

05:17:11.100 This is probably...

05:17:12.040 I think this may have very well been one of our longest podcasts.

05:17:17.320 It's like five and a half hours, almost.

05:17:18.980 Long show.

05:17:19.740 Long show.

05:17:20.480 I'm trying to...

05:17:21.280 The last one was, too.

05:17:22.720 Yeah, I'd like to try to get these...

05:17:23.900 These are important discussions.

05:17:24.840 It is, but I...

05:17:25.800 You know, people get tired.

05:17:26.380 Start them earlier these days.

05:17:28.000 Maybe start at 3 p.m.

05:17:29.200 Maybe something really quickly.

05:17:30.260 Even though, like, in the midst of, you know, the craziness and the disagreements, I'm glad

05:17:34.760 that we're still able to bring these topics to the table.

05:17:37.940 Based.

05:17:38.380 Amen.

05:17:38.960 Yeah, and speak about it.

05:17:39.820 Whether or not, if we agree or disagree, I feel like we all...

05:17:43.420 Like, I'm going to be 100% honest.

05:17:44.540 I was extremely worried on walking into a podcast like this because, personally, I've never seen

05:17:49.860 another trans girl on here before. 0.97

05:17:51.720 You know?

05:17:52.220 I think you're the first.

05:17:53.200 And, honestly, can I be honest with you?

05:17:54.660 Yeah.

05:17:55.380 I mean, I didn't even know you were trans.

05:17:59.960 Same, to be honest.

05:18:00.840 No, like...

05:18:01.520 Because I saw...

05:18:02.600 I didn't think that much of it when I was in.

05:18:04.480 I saw one of your...

05:18:05.600 I stumbled on one of your videos that was, like, getting... 0.99

05:18:09.420 I was, like, getting ready for work or some bullshit. 0.60

05:18:10.960 No, I think it was, like, you were in a taxi or something. 0.97

05:18:14.740 Or, like... 1.00

05:18:15.000 Okay, I was fucking drunk off my ass. 1.00

05:18:17.460 Okay, and let me just say this. 1.00

05:18:18.440 And you were complaining about guys.

05:18:19.780 And I was, like, I have to have her on the show. 1.00

05:18:21.040 And I was wearing this fucking dress, too. 1.00

05:18:23.060 Okay. 1.00

05:18:23.820 I do not go to the club for fucking mail validation. 1.00

05:18:26.740 I was just drunk off my ass. 1.00

05:18:27.860 And I seen a situationship that I was in. 1.00

05:18:29.680 And he was with a bitch who he said he was no longer involved with. 0.99

05:18:32.760 So, that was why I was crying in the back of a taxi. 1.00

05:18:36.320 Okay.

05:18:36.960 No, and I was, like, just the way you were...

05:18:39.180 It was like Uber Chronicles.

05:18:40.760 Yeah.

05:18:41.280 Oh, yeah.

05:18:41.880 Uber Chronicles.

05:18:42.700 That's how I found you.

05:18:44.320 But, like, I legit...

05:18:46.100 I did not know you were trans.

05:18:49.300 Yeah.

05:18:49.900 Like, I mean, I saw that video.

05:18:52.440 I found your Instagram.

05:18:53.740 I just shot you a message.

05:18:54.860 I didn't do too much digging.

05:18:57.840 But I didn't know you were trans coming into this.

05:19:00.560 So, Kiko and Chase previously had a heated discussion, viral moment, on this topic.

05:19:08.600 And I had seen it, honestly.

05:19:10.220 Oh, you'd seen it?

05:19:11.140 Okay.

05:19:11.580 So, you were really walking into something.

05:19:14.320 I was super nervous because I have seen...

05:19:17.920 Like, I feel like a lot of times, too, like, in the past, like, trans women are represented

05:19:22.900 in, like, the Jerry Springer terms or, you know, where it's like, oh, well, that's a dude

05:19:28.280 or that's this, that's that, you know.

05:19:29.880 It's always belittling them.

05:19:31.940 And that's what I was worried about because, one, I've never done anything like this.

05:19:36.780 It's my first thing, like, my first little social media game.

05:19:39.480 If you want to call it.

05:19:40.300 Yeah.

05:19:40.460 Um, and two, like, I was really worried of, like, okay, like, I have an idea of what I'm

05:19:46.500 walking into.

05:19:47.180 How is the best way that I can represent myself and my community respectfully?

05:19:53.620 Mm-hmm.

05:19:54.160 You know, without feeling...

05:19:55.320 I think you did a good job.

05:19:56.480 Without feeling like...

05:19:57.060 I do, too.

05:19:57.560 100%.

05:19:57.880 Like, I don't ever want to, to mush, like, oh, I'm trans, I'm trans, I'm trans.

05:20:03.260 Like, I, that's not what I'm about because, to me, there's more to me than just my trans

05:20:07.120 identity. 0.99

05:20:07.760 I'm a fucking person. 1.00

05:20:08.860 I, you know, I fucking love pizza. 1.00

05:20:11.060 I fucking love, you know, everything. 0.98

05:20:13.440 I love scary movies. 0.99

05:20:14.520 I'm the biggest fucking horror fanatic. 0.94

05:20:15.920 I feel like that's what a lot of people forget to us is that there's more to us than just 0.98

05:20:19.660 our trans identity.

05:20:20.720 We're just people, you know? 0.98

05:20:22.600 And we're more than just a fucking, what our thing is. 0.98

05:20:27.760 Your name is Allie, correct? 0.99

05:20:28.980 Yeah.

05:20:29.440 Allie, I want to salute you for having the bravery to come on this podcast.

05:20:33.600 Thank you.

05:20:34.220 Allie! 0.99

05:20:34.980 Allie! 0.99

05:20:36.220 Salute!

05:20:36.680 Thank you, guys.

05:20:37.520 You guys have been amazing, honestly.

05:20:38.840 Yeah.

05:20:39.020 Like I said, I'm really glad that, like I said...

05:20:41.660 Oh, into the mic.

05:20:42.500 We may not always agree with these things, but at least they're being talked about and they're

05:20:46.220 being, they're being discussed about and they're being respected, hopefully, on both ends.

05:20:51.400 You can mend your bravery.

05:20:52.600 To come on, because it takes a lot to...

05:20:54.160 I didn't know what I was expecting here.

05:20:55.600 I was like, what if it's me versus 12 liberals?

05:20:57.600 I'm ready for it, but I don't know.

05:20:59.080 You know?

05:20:59.720 I just, I want to say... 0.99

05:21:01.020 Who the fuck am I to judge, you know, for you on your beliefs, you know? 0.99

05:21:03.840 Well, that's a very beautiful take to have. 0.99

05:21:06.120 That doesn't make you a horrible person, at least for me.

05:21:08.480 Like, you can easily...

05:21:10.540 I can't judge you as a person on what you were raised by, you know?

05:21:14.380 Or what you...

05:21:14.940 That's all you've ever known, you know?

05:21:16.260 I'm not...

05:21:16.720 That's not my place. 0.98

05:21:18.060 And I'm also not going to fucking critique you because of that, because... 0.96

05:21:21.480 I think it's a beautiful outlook on individual liberty and freedom and respect, and if only 0.98

05:21:26.280 the rest of the country was as tolerant as that.

05:21:27.960 The point that I wanted to make was I want to salute you for coming on the podcast, having

05:21:34.500 the bravery and the courage to do that.

05:21:36.000 I think you conducted yourself extremely well.

05:21:38.160 I've enjoyed speaking with you.

05:21:40.000 I thought it was very based that you said, yeah, it's gay when dudes, like, who have a 0.99

05:21:43.640 fetish for dicks... 1.00

05:21:44.340 Yeah, that's because it's true. 1.00

05:21:46.480 That's true.

05:21:47.440 I thought that was funny and based.

05:21:49.400 The Chasers are going crazy for us.

05:21:50.880 They kind of like that.

05:21:51.780 I forget their names, Chase, but that's literally what they're called.

05:21:54.140 And I want to say, too, I salute you as well for hosting, Allie, because I think one of

05:22:02.020 the reasons why podcasts like this are so valuable is because there's this tension that's building

05:22:07.760 in our country with these ideologies in between the right and the left and all that kind of

05:22:12.540 stuff.

05:22:12.820 And I think conversations like this help us understand one another better, and I think

05:22:17.020 that's really important.

05:22:17.820 And, like, despite seeing the clips and, like, being nervous about coming in here, like,

05:22:22.680 I really commend you for coming here.

05:22:25.500 And I've valued, you know, hearing your experience.

05:22:28.640 Yo, let's get W's in the chat for Allie. 0.99

05:22:30.940 Let's see Wally, I guess.

05:22:32.960 Wally.

05:22:33.240 Yeah, Wally.

05:22:33.820 Wally in the chat.

05:22:34.760 Let's get Wally in the chat.

05:22:36.160 Wally in the chat to salute Allie.

05:22:36.920 And also, I just wanted to address one thing.

05:22:39.240 There were a couple times where me and Chase were kind of giggling a little bit.

05:22:43.220 I actually want to apologize for that.

05:22:45.220 That wasn't cool, especially when you're speaking.

05:22:47.880 And I'm going to be honest, guys. 0.98

05:22:49.220 I have a very fucking dark sense of humor. 1.00

05:22:50.980 Like, I can take a lot of shit. 1.00

05:22:52.320 But if we're having a serious conversation, like, avoid the hate comments because I know 1.00

05:22:56.160 they can be funny as fuck. 0.97

05:22:57.040 I laugh at my own hate comments, too. 0.99

05:22:58.400 Let's be real. 1.00

05:22:59.560 But, like, when we're having a certain debate, like, there's a time and place for shit. 0.99

05:23:03.600 And if we're talking about something, like, don't let that shit be a distraction. 0.99

05:23:07.120 Yeah, I'm kind of, like, tuned into the chat a little bit. 0.99

05:23:10.940 There was a comment that I saw that was funny.

05:23:13.940 I think Chase probably saw it, too.

05:23:15.800 I want to apologize because it was disrespectful.

05:23:18.280 That was disrespectful.

05:23:19.640 So, but I appreciate you taking it on the chin and, you know, being a good sport.

05:23:26.480 Like I said, I'm a very patient person.

05:23:28.440 Just don't.

05:23:29.020 Definitely.

05:23:29.580 Just don't test my patience is all it is.

05:23:31.520 Yeah.

05:23:32.160 Cool.

05:23:32.360 Okay, so, I reckon we ought to wrap soon unless you guys want to speak for a while.

05:23:37.800 Please let us go and we have two hours to drive back to L.A.

05:23:40.460 Please.

05:23:41.020 It's 12.30.

05:23:42.140 You guys should stay at a hotel here.

05:23:43.720 Because I'm flying out at 12 o'clock tomorrow.

05:23:45.600 All IPs in the chat.

05:23:48.100 From L.A.X.

05:23:48.580 And speaking of Allie's, poor Allie over there has been giving me the death stares for the 1.00

05:23:53.300 past two hours. 0.99

05:23:54.200 Like, hurry the fuck up, Brian, and wrap up the show. 0.52

05:23:57.220 But I appreciate this. 0.97

05:23:58.680 I do want to say to the whole panel, this was a, Debra, I think you, Debra, you're killing 0.97

05:24:05.360 me here.

05:24:05.700 Okay.

05:24:06.760 I do want to say.

05:24:07.340 I'm just confused with the broken fingers on the doll.

05:24:09.300 All right.

05:24:09.860 Brian put in some work on her.

05:24:11.140 It's, it's, it's a weird skeleton she has.

05:24:14.860 Okay.

05:24:15.060 Sanitize your hands after touching it.

05:24:16.840 Uh, I want to thank the panel for staying as long as you did.

05:24:21.920 This was, I think this is our longest show ever.

05:24:24.760 So, I appreciate your guys' patience.

05:24:27.640 Uh, thank you guys for, uh.

05:24:29.320 Chat, if you guys appreciated this episode, smash the thumbs up button.

05:24:33.720 Throw a W in the chat if it was a solid episode and you guys enjoyed it.

05:24:37.520 And subscribe on Rumble so we get that monetization up.

05:24:40.760 Yes.

05:24:41.040 For Brian.

05:24:41.520 And donate.

05:24:42.320 Brian needs racks on racks because apparently he's secretly rich, but we don't know it.

05:24:46.420 According to Kiko.

05:24:47.340 Yeah.

05:24:47.720 According to Kiko.

05:24:48.440 According to Kiko.

05:24:49.740 Who's a reliable source, right?

05:24:51.520 Yeah.

05:24:51.760 Who also knows how puberty blockers work.

05:24:54.160 Yeah.

05:24:54.360 Also, if Christ is Lord, throw Christ is Lord in the comments.

05:24:57.280 In all caps, please.

05:24:58.340 Thank you, fam.

05:24:59.080 Shout out Brian for hosting us.

05:25:00.840 Yes.

05:25:01.220 Also.

05:25:02.960 Brian.

05:25:04.100 Thanks, Brian.

05:25:05.540 Brian.

05:25:05.940 Well, we're not.

05:25:06.760 Sit down, sit down.

05:25:07.740 We're not done.

05:25:08.600 All right.

05:25:08.860 Also, since we're telling people to throw stuff in the chat, throw, let's see, like World

05:25:18.500 of Warcraft should release hardcore mode.

05:25:20.460 Okay.

05:25:20.880 So, don't worry about it.

05:25:23.400 Okay.

05:25:23.800 So, we got your rumble.

05:25:25.420 Do you guys want to watch a tape video to wrap things up?

05:25:27.560 You guys, Ali, you down?

05:25:28.800 You down for a little tape video?

05:25:29.640 I think they are really trying to get out of here, bro.

05:25:32.020 Okay.

05:25:32.240 I think they're really trying to get out of here.

05:25:33.680 I do, I do love Daddy Tate.

05:25:35.560 I do.

05:25:36.260 You want to respond to it?

05:25:37.500 I love Daddy Tate.

05:25:39.420 We'll do a vote, show of hands, who wants-

05:25:42.360 How long is it?

05:25:43.040 Did you say Daddy Tate?

05:25:43.920 Yes.

05:25:44.820 My boyfriend's okay with that.

05:25:45.640 Is he still watching?

05:25:47.940 No, he's fine with that.

05:25:49.100 Let's do super chats, and then we'll see how everyone's feeling.

05:25:51.640 Okay.

05:25:52.560 Ivan Jr., unfortunately, Ivan, dude, I'm sorry, did this come in?

05:25:56.480 Did he, did she read this?

05:25:57.680 Let's just read it.

05:25:58.300 Ivan Jr., 150 bucks, thanks.

05:25:59.660 Sorry, Ivan.

05:26:00.020 Kiko has a lot to learn socially.

05:26:01.680 Her emotions get her lost in ramblings of nothing.

05:26:04.140 This is true.

05:26:05.100 Quick to shame me on my point, but is a know-it-all on something she clearly hasn't studied and

05:26:09.540 doesn't believe in.

05:26:10.260 This is also true, and a common occurrence.

05:26:13.120 I would love to defend the good men that still exist, Brian.

05:26:17.580 Yeah, you should come in, Ivan.

05:26:19.320 Yeah, Ivan, sorry that we didn't get this when Kiko was in.

05:26:22.920 This one's a little, is this TOS?

05:26:29.140 Majority of Americans rallied for LGBTQ in 2007 to 17 until it was being pushed hard.

05:26:34.440 I lost friends of 10 years in the industry.

05:26:36.560 I wouldn't marry them.

05:26:38.120 It's not that we're bothered.

05:26:39.320 It's the way it's being pushed so hard and friends of LGBTQ being groomed to, quote, try. 0.98

05:26:43.920 You want to get this one?

05:26:44.980 Sure.

05:26:45.840 What's his name?

05:26:46.560 Marquavius?

05:26:47.280 Marquavius.

05:26:48.180 Marquavius.

05:26:48.580 This is a result of a femme-centric society. 1.00

05:26:51.700 Rather than providing compassion, discernment, support, and biblical love, mental illness is 0.55

05:26:56.100 over-nurtured, praised, and pedestalized.

05:26:58.720 It is an evil, cruel world.

05:27:00.580 Qualified men need to lead. 0.95

05:27:02.600 This is proven by single mother stats.

05:27:04.540 Bro, Marquavius dropping facts, dude.

05:27:06.980 This is absolutely 100% correct.

05:27:09.040 And, Chase, do you think, do I pull this up, or is this a little, this one?

05:27:15.860 I mean, yeah, why not?

05:27:18.540 You sure?

05:27:19.940 It's, they dropped 120 on it, bro.

05:27:24.880 Does it have a lot of words?

05:27:25.980 Maybe by pre, Aussie donated 120.

05:27:28.480 He said the trans movement is a falsehood.

05:27:30.360 This is going to get you demonetized. 0.96

05:27:31.580 Huh?

05:27:31.940 It's going to get you demonetized. 0.94

05:27:33.360 Too late.

05:27:34.060 Yeah.

05:27:34.740 All right.

05:27:35.020 Well, I don't need to read the rest of it.

05:27:36.200 Don't read the rest of it out loud.

05:27:37.220 Those are buzzwords.

05:27:37.960 Oh, yeah.

05:27:38.420 We, okay.

05:27:39.420 Wait, maybe I'll hide it.

05:27:40.880 It's an important point, though.

05:27:43.320 Important point.

05:27:45.360 TGR is a buzzword.

05:27:46.380 He sees it.

05:27:47.560 Is it really?

05:27:48.400 Yes.

05:27:48.960 That's good to know.

05:27:49.540 Big time.

05:27:49.640 Really?

05:27:50.080 Big time.

05:27:51.040 You can't say, you can't talk about it?

05:27:52.360 No.

05:27:52.800 Everything's taken down.

05:27:54.220 Don't say the word.

05:27:54.820 Yeah.

05:27:55.580 Okay, good times.

05:27:56.360 So they're in bed with them.

05:27:57.800 Jesus.

05:27:58.340 You too.

05:27:58.860 They made the bed.

05:28:01.040 That's a good way of putting it.

05:28:02.700 They own the bed.

05:28:03.440 Tate video.

05:28:04.620 Allie, I know you're a big Tate fan, right, Allie?

05:28:07.600 I put on a hoodie.

05:28:08.660 Allie, just admit it.

05:28:09.420 You love Andrew Tate.

05:28:10.840 You have a thing for bald men.

05:28:11.960 I very much just like it.

05:28:12.160 Just say it.

05:28:12.540 Just say it.

05:28:12.880 Is your...

05:28:13.380 Where are you going?

05:28:14.980 She's getting a hoodie.

05:28:16.340 Wait, we're almost done.

05:28:17.100 Just power through.

05:28:18.560 Power through.

05:28:19.400 Okay, let's do one Tate video.

05:28:20.800 Let's wrap.

05:28:21.520 I need to be so bad.

05:28:22.820 Really quick.

05:28:23.900 Eric, do the...

05:28:26.040 Show me which ones we have.

05:28:28.800 Just go over to a video tab.

05:28:31.320 What's this one title?

05:28:33.440 Look at this.

05:28:34.640 You got like Grey Goose.

05:28:35.800 Next one?

05:28:37.320 That's what we need.

05:28:38.400 Next one.

05:28:38.900 Brian, it looks just like you.

05:28:39.600 Grey Goose next time.

05:28:41.360 Did we really do a Tate video?

05:28:43.760 How long is it?

05:28:44.920 Oh, it's not...

05:28:45.260 It's two minutes.

05:28:46.040 Oh, God.

05:28:46.680 That's so long.

05:28:47.620 I think we should just wrap it.

05:28:48.660 Let's just wrap.

05:28:49.200 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

05:28:49.560 Let's just wrap.

05:28:50.840 Okay.

05:28:52.720 Oh, I got a shout out to Twitch, and then we're going to wrap.

05:28:56.520 Twitch.tv.

05:28:57.480 Am I abusing here?

05:28:58.840 Am I abusing?

05:28:59.700 Just lingering the show on?

05:29:01.720 Okay.

05:29:02.420 Yo, Rebel, think for the prime.

05:29:04.200 Yeehaw, think for the prime.

05:29:05.200 Bert, Bert, think for the prime.

05:29:06.100 Go to Twitch.tv slash whatever.

05:29:08.060 Drop us a follow or a prime sub.

05:29:10.780 Pzark, think for the follow.

05:29:12.040 Usari, think for the follow.

05:29:13.000 Shepard, think for the follow.

05:29:13.820 Appreciate you guys.

05:29:14.460 Go to Twitch.tv slash whatever.

05:29:16.660 Drop us a follow and a prime sub on your way out.

05:29:19.560 Okay.

05:29:20.560 Sweet.

05:29:21.560 Ali, I know you have a last word you really want to get in, so feel free right now.

05:29:25.720 If you want to just drop some hot takes on your bombs.

05:29:31.960 Wait, what am I saying?

05:29:32.940 I don't know. 1.00

05:29:33.960 Drop some bombs on your bombs. 1.00

05:29:35.380 Her bombs are sweaty. 0.99

05:29:36.560 Knees weak.

05:29:37.180 Arms are ready.

05:29:37.920 There's vomit on her sweater already.

05:29:39.500 Mom's spaghetti.

05:29:40.280 I think I'm going to pass.

05:29:41.200 I don't have any hot bombs I want to talk about.

05:29:44.240 Come on.

05:29:44.800 Madison.

05:29:45.420 She's nervous.

05:29:46.220 She's not going to drop bombs. 0.98

05:29:47.440 Her bombs aren't ready.

05:29:48.460 You got any bombs to drop?

05:29:50.540 You got bombs?

05:29:52.640 M-Dog, you got some bombs?

05:29:54.520 What you got?

05:29:55.720 Not really.

05:30:00.100 Madison.

05:30:00.660 What's your most controversial take?

05:30:02.200 Yo, real quick.

05:30:03.640 Chat.

05:30:04.400 If Jesus loves Ali, write Jesus loves Ali in the chat, please.

05:30:08.260 Out of love for Ali.

05:30:09.240 What's your most unpopular opinion, Maddie?

05:30:11.660 My most what?

05:30:12.540 Unpopular opinion.

05:30:14.000 Unpopular opinion?

05:30:15.860 I don't have unpopular opinions.

05:30:18.000 Come on.

05:30:18.380 Be honest.

05:30:18.580 You're just always on point.

05:30:19.900 It's hard to think of that off the top of your head.

05:30:22.700 Off the top of your head, like, what's, like, uh...

05:30:25.100 Okay.

05:30:25.920 That doesn't matter.

05:30:26.260 What do you think of guys who go to...

05:30:28.540 You guys both go to UCSB, right?

05:30:30.840 City College.

05:30:31.180 Santa Barbara City.

05:30:31.860 But we both live here, though.

05:30:33.100 In Isla Vista.

05:30:33.500 You live in Isla Vista.

05:30:34.180 What do you guys think about SBCC, guys?

05:30:39.600 I like them.

05:30:40.140 It's the guys that you see living around here.

05:30:42.780 I mean, they're, like, no other...

05:30:44.140 Everyone's super-duper cool, though.

05:30:46.060 Oh, okay.

05:30:46.700 What do you think about guys in Isla Vista?

05:30:51.160 I don't think anything of them.

05:30:52.880 I have a boyfriend that I love.

05:30:54.700 Well, before...

05:30:55.160 Okay.

05:30:55.600 Were you...

05:30:56.540 Were either of you frustrated with the dating scene in college before you met your boyfriends? 0.97

05:31:02.620 Were you like, man, this sucks. 1.00

05:31:06.680 All these frat boys just be doing some shady shit. 1.00

05:31:11.980 Yo, they have a two-hour drive back to L.A. tonight. 0.99

05:31:14.180 Do you want to let them go right now?

05:31:15.660 No, we'll wrap.

05:31:16.000 Continue the conversation.

05:31:17.320 No, well, they all got to go, so...

05:31:19.340 I'm giving them 30 seconds if they want to...

05:31:21.900 I'm trying to reel them in a little bit here at the end.

05:31:26.120 Me, personally, like I said, I came here with a boyfriend.

05:31:29.480 Oh, you already have one.

05:31:30.440 Okay.

05:31:30.620 I was probably single for like a week, and then I...

05:31:36.300 Got swooped up quick.

05:31:37.400 Got swooped up.

05:31:37.940 Okay.

05:31:38.580 Yeah.

05:31:38.900 Hot commodity.

05:31:40.760 Exactly.

05:31:40.960 Allison Gertrude.

05:31:45.620 Smith, how about you?

05:31:48.620 I think it's very hard to find someone here, so I'm just very glad I did, and I'm really

05:31:54.500 happy with him, so I feel like moving here, especially to Santa Barbara, like, that's all

05:32:00.500 you can think about, too, is like the hookup culture, but I didn't move here, like, thinking

05:32:05.560 that I wanted to, like, be this crazy girl and go out and hook up with all these different

05:32:11.720 guys. 0.53

05:32:12.120 Like, I don't know.

05:32:13.620 No, I'm young, I would say.

05:32:15.200 I'm very, very young, but I feel like...

05:32:17.660 How old are you?

05:32:18.560 18.

05:32:19.800 But I feel like I've moved past that point in my life, and I kind of want to just, like,

05:32:25.000 chill out, focus on school, focus on my relationship, like, go to church.

05:32:29.900 Like, I don't know.

05:32:31.180 I'm over that time in my life, so...

05:32:33.320 No ho phase at all, huh? 0.99

05:32:34.840 You just bypassed the ho phase? 0.97

05:32:36.800 Well, there were some indiscretions, right?

05:32:39.380 Yeah, yeah, but that was, yeah, those were, that's in the past.

05:32:45.640 It's in the past.

05:32:46.460 It's in the past.

05:32:46.480 They're quick years.

05:32:47.240 You got your boyfriend, you say you're going to marry him, so good for you.

05:32:51.340 Okay, so, last question.

05:32:53.120 What's the tattoo, 1975?

05:32:55.060 Is that a band or the song?

05:32:57.480 This is my dad's birth year.

05:32:58.600 Your dad's birth year?

05:32:59.420 Yeah.

05:33:00.440 Okay.

05:33:01.180 And then...

05:33:01.920 Did he pass away?

05:33:04.100 No.

05:33:04.660 Oh.

05:33:04.880 But I do have my mom's birthday on my rib cage, her, like, birth flower on my back,

05:33:12.180 her, the birth, or the year that my mother passed away on my back.

05:33:16.760 Should I start to hear that?

05:33:17.380 And then, it's all great.

05:33:18.720 It's all good.

05:33:19.380 Don't worry about it.

05:33:19.880 Does everyone ask you if the 1975 is, like, your favorite band?

05:33:23.500 No.

05:33:24.400 No one really asked me about this tattoo, honestly.

05:33:27.000 Isn't there also a song by, like, Smashing Pumpkins called 1975?

05:33:30.880 There was YouTube Madonna waiting for Nirvana.

05:33:33.960 It's called Bowling for Soup, 1985.

05:33:38.140 Wait, but there's also 1975.

05:33:39.260 I've never listened to this band in my life.

05:33:41.180 No.

05:33:41.560 It's a one-off song.

05:33:44.060 Oh, sorry.

05:33:45.060 1979, The Smashing Pumpkins.

05:33:47.920 Okay, cool.

05:33:49.160 All right, we're going to wrap up the show.

05:33:51.880 Did we get any super chats or we're good, Eric?

05:33:54.880 Okay, cool.

05:33:56.120 All right, Eric wants to go, too.

05:33:57.420 He's got work done.

05:33:58.160 Okay, sweet.

05:33:59.240 So, guys, hit the like button, please, on your way out.

05:34:03.340 Thank you for tuning in tonight.

05:34:04.380 You could have been anywhere in the world, but you were here with me.

05:34:08.080 I appreciate that.

05:34:08.940 Thank you to everyone who super chats and supports the show.

05:34:11.420 Really appreciate all the support, guys.

05:34:13.440 Like I said, we're, you know, YouTube.

05:34:16.920 There's really strict rules when it comes to monetization, so really appreciate the fan funding.

05:34:21.960 You guys are awesome.

05:34:23.040 Big thank you to the panel.

05:34:24.280 This was our longest stream ever.

05:34:26.760 So, thank you guys for your patience.

05:34:28.820 Solid follow-up to round one.

05:34:31.380 It was good.

05:34:32.200 Yeah.

05:34:32.420 It was good.

05:34:33.000 Yeah.

05:34:34.180 So, thank you to all our chat mods.

05:34:36.060 Thank you, everybody, for, again, all the support.

05:34:39.160 Any, let's see, anyone, women who want to be on the show, DM at whatever on Instagram.

05:34:46.640 We will be live again Sunday at 7 p.m. Pacific.

05:34:50.520 Hold on.

05:34:50.940 I actually have to do a raid for somebody.

05:34:52.520 Hold on.

05:34:52.820 Who am I going to raid?

05:34:53.700 We are going to raid Chris, the producer from Fresh and Fit, if you're on Twitch.

05:35:00.200 So, I'm going to send you guys over there right now.

05:35:03.500 So, I'm going to say goodbye to the Twitch people.

05:35:05.620 Goodbye to the Twitch people, and then I'll say goodbye to the YouTube people.

05:35:09.480 All right.

05:35:09.980 Let's start.

05:35:10.520 Hasta luego.

05:35:11.200 And then, okay, so, sorry, guys, I'm new to that.

05:35:21.540 Okay, so, we will be live again Sunday, 7 p.m. Pacific.

05:35:25.360 Guys, I have a lot of exciting guests coming back on.

05:35:28.180 I think we're going to maybe get Michael Knowles back on.

05:35:31.520 Some other Daily Wire talent is going to be coming on.

05:35:33.560 You know when Michael might be coming back?

05:35:35.920 I don't want to say anything specific, but we are in discussions.

05:35:41.000 Getting him back on.

05:35:42.200 I've got some other big guests coming on, so be sure to stay tuned, guys.

05:35:45.440 We've got some really solid guests coming.

05:35:47.620 So, again, live again Sunday, 7 p.m. Pacific.

05:35:50.840 We will see you guys next time.

05:35:52.940 Thank you again to the wonderful panel.

05:35:54.460 We'll see you guys next time.

05:35:55.460 Have a good night, guys.

05:35:57.460 See ya.

05:35:58.000 See ya.

Whatever Podcast - April 26, 2023

Dating Talk #69

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