Dating Talk #7
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2 hours and 25 minutes
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175.75406
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137
Summary
In this episode of Whatever Dating Talk, we're joined by a group of single college students to talk about their experiences with dating in college and what it's like to be single in your 20s and early 30s.
Transcript
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Welcome to the Whatever Dating Talk podcast, coming to you live from Isla Vista, Santa Barbara County, California.
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Every Tuesday and Thursday at 7 p.m. Pacific, I'm your host, Brian Atlas,
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the most publicly rejected man in the history of the world, so I guess who better to talk about dating.
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A few quick announcements before the show begins.
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For the sake of debate, I may play devil's advocate and take on a position I may not necessarily agree with.
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Without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves,
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so please tell us your name, age, occupation, and relationship status, starting with you.
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I'm 21, and I'm an entertainer at Spearmint Rhino.
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And explain to those who don't know what the Spearmint, you said an entertainer at the Spearmint Rhino.
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So, a stripper at Spearmint Rhino Gentleman's Club.
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I am 20 years old, and I am a student at UCSB, and I am currently in a relationship.
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I'm a waitress working on Actress, and I'm single.
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I'm a dental assistant, and I'm single as well.
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Yeah, I got some DMs that, like, they stalked my followers, and they were like,
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how do you know this guy, my friend, like, he plays basketball professionally.
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Well, because on the last show, you said that your type was six foot four NBA players.
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And I also think, like, another part of my standards is, like, they have to be emotionally
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intelligent, or, like, at least the same level as me.
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Can you just, again, go through, just tell us your major.
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I'm currently a psych major with a minor in art.
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Remember, guys, up into the microphone, like, an inch away from the mic.
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So, when you say you're single, what precisely do you mean by that?
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Like, you know, there's times where you get lonely,
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and there's other times where you don't even want to talk to men.
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So, how many do you currently have on the roster?
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When was your, like, last term or last long-term relationship?
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When's the last time you hooked up with somebody?
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Being single means that I'm not dating anyone right now.
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Like, I could be talking to people, but I'm not, like, committing myself to one person.
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I like what she said, single when I want to be, but I have no one on my roster, not talking
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Okay, so it's complicated because, I mean, like, I've been seeing this guy.
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Okay, complicated, like, not in, like, a tricky term, like, a negative connotation.
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Like, complicated as in, like, he does music, so he's on tour right now.
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So, he's gone, just got out of a relationship, and I'm, like, I love my freedom.
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So, I guess single, but also, like, I'm a pretty loyal person, so, like, it's complicated
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because I'm, like, I've committed myself to a person, but, like, I don't know.
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Like, it's not, I'm not, like, hooking up with anybody else by, like, complicated.
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So, you said you're kind of committed to him, but he's not committed to you.
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So, he's actually on tour right now with Revolution.
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All right, they're going to find out who it is, probably.
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So, it's a reggae band, but the band he's currently in, he, like, plays guitar, is, like, all.
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It's, like, an alternative reggae, like, kind of TV band.
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Do you want to share his social security number while you're at it?
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And he's cool with you working at, did he meet you at the club, at the Spearmint?
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Okay, so, yes, but it was through, like, these older guys that come in, and he was, like, their son's friend.
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So, he didn't, like, participate in the usual club activities.
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And I ended up just, like, kind of, like, hanging out with him outside of the club.
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So, we did meet in the club, but I got to know him outside of the club rather than, like, get a dance and be, like, hey, where are you from?
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Isn't it a pretty common thing that women who are strippers, typically, they don't date customers?
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But it doesn't sound like he was quite a customer.
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Definitely don't date customers because, like, the people that come in there are, you know, they already have an idea of the girls that are working.
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So, basically, it's just, it will never be the outcome that you want it to be.
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You're never going to find, really, a husband in the club that's come and seen your goodies before, like, getting to know you.
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And just for those watching, the Spearmint Rhino, it's full nudity.
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But it's recommended, it sounds like, from what I've heard, to avoid a lot of girls working in the club, they don't want to.
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It's happened before, but I would say, like, those dating terms are more of, like, a sugar daddy type thing.
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I've had sugar daddies, but it's definitely, you have to be very aware of yourself and protect yourself in those type of relationships.
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And it's definitely, like, you present yourself in a different way than you would regularly dating somebody.
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Like, you're presenting yourself as the persona you are in the club rather than your outside self when you have a sugar relationship.
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And how long have you been working at the Spearmint?
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So, I've been working at the Spearmint for a year, actually, now, in August.
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And how long, so you've been, have you been dancing since you were 18?
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But, yeah, I was familiar with the club scene when I had started.
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And after turning 18, they were like, why aren't you just in here making money?
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So, I took a year off, came to California, went to school, did the whole regular thing,
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lived with really nice girls, pretended to be really nice.
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Wait, why would you have to be vague about what the delivery is?
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Like, if you're delivering Uber Eats or DoorDash, you know, you could just, it's okay.
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So, anyways, we're going to move on to the main topic of today.
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And so, we're talking about preferences, standards, and boundaries when it comes to dating.
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More specifically, are men allowed to have preferences, standards, and boundaries?
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But before we get into that specific question, I'm going to ask the panel.
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I want you to list some preferences or standards that you have when it comes to men.
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I want you to list at least three physical traits and at least three personality behavioral traits.
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And if you want, you can list more than three for both, but.
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Okay, so three physical, three personality, right?
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Yeah, three physical or three personality behavioral traits.
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I'm not too picky on height, but as long as they're taller than me.
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I like, I'm a dental assistant, so I love teeth.
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But, you know, there's like skinny that goes to the gym and is nice and fit.
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But then there's like skinny that's just like, you know, just.
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He's kind of like, well, he's tall and kind of thin.
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I like goofy men that know how to take jokes and give good jokes because some men take it
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And probably a talkative man because I tend to talk a lot.
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So if he can talk more than me, that's always nice.
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I mean, I would say height, but I've really just learned to go with the personality.
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Personality-wise, just I like more than the bare minimum.
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Like, I don't want to have to beg you for things like, I don't want to have to beg you
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And then funny, funny is really, is a good one.
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I feel like I don't have, like, those types of standards.
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Like, yeah, the height that we talked about last time.
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I feel like I'd prefer them to be athletic, I guess.
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And then, like, I don't know, not, like, physical.
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Like, I feel like all the guys I've talked to are, like, different, you know?
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No, I like when they have, like, clean cuticles.
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Like, I like when they get their, like, hands and feet done.
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They have to be, like, how I said earlier, emotionally mature.
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And then, yeah, just be able to, like, talk to me.
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Someone that I can, like, just mess around with.
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I like when they can be, like, generous to others.
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You know, be able to have, like, an intelligent conversation.
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So, I like, I've noticed I like a back on, like, back.
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Like, good fashion or, like, their own kind of, like, swag and their own kind of style,
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I also like, obviously, a guy that's, like, taller than you.
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I just feel like that's what makes a lady feel feminine.
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Skin is when you can, like, get wrapped up nicely.
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And, and third, I would say, like, nice eyes or, like, an appealing face.
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I would say I like a guy who's funny that can, like, take a joke and also serve jokes,
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So, they're, that means, like, aware of, like, others, including myself.
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But that includes, like, being polite, respectful, but also, like, self-aware of themselves to where
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they have, like, emotional control and understanding.
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Like, no, like, a family friend type of person.
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That has, like, their own stuff going on and are, like, a strong personality.
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So, um, really quick, like, did, did any of the girls hear any of the preferences or standards
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that anyone else listed that you would object to?
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You didn't hear anything, like, objectionable, like, oh, she wants a tall guy.
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So, um, similarly to the last question, I want to go around the table, uh, list some
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preferences or standards that you think men have for women.
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I want you to list at least three physical traits and at least three personality behavioral
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Physically, I'm just gonna, like, start down the list.
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But, um, physically, I feel like everybody wants a pretty or, like, a hot chick.
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So, somebody that's, like, nice to look at, everybody has their preference on, like, what
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Like, maybe they have a cute nose or maybe they like their eyebrows.
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But I feel like that's one huge standard is, like, somebody that's attractive.
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Um, but, um, second, maybe, like, a clean girl.
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So, that's, like, tits or ass or maybe, like, neither.
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Yeah, I suppose you could have broken it down into the various physical traits if you wanted to.
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And then, three, I get, I've heard, like, maybe a mature lady.
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Like, a lot of guys that I know, like, want, like, mommy-type girlfriends to take care of them.
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So, I pretty much was gonna say the exact same thing when it comes to physical traits.
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Because I feel like there's not a lot to go around.
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There's, I don't really have anything to go off of that.
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Maybe more, like, a, maybe more of a, just a girl who, like, looks feminine.
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Definitely someone who looks, or at least seems like she has everything together.
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Like, they know how to go about their life independently.
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And kind of, like you said, to keep, like, a mommy figure type of thing.
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And look like they can take care of you, but also live on their own.
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So, the guys want, the guys want a girl who can take care of them.
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I don't think a lot of, I don't like, I don't think a lot of guys would.
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I mean, I mean, well, I don't know how to explain that.
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So, I learned, so I work for the City College football team.
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So, I've learned that they, like, I just get to talk to the guys.
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And I've learned that, you know, some guys like women who are very high maintenance.
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Because they like to know that they come from something.
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I've had a few of my friends that have said, like, oh, I like a woman that's high maintenance.
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So, that's how I know that she comes from something.
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And then I have, like, one of my very good friends also likes him, like, more laid back.
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Like, likes to just, like, you know, just chill.
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But then there's a difference with, like, petite girl big butt.
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So, it's really interesting getting to hear, like, these perspectives.
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I don't think there's any guy that likes high maintenance.
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That's how he knows that she comes from something.
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Because she's like a woman that knows what she wants in a way.
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And knows how to, like, handle herself and take care of herself.
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Well, I would actually make the argument that the woman who grew up with nothing.
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If you've been handed everything your entire life.
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But I do think there is also something to people may be drawn to people within their socioeconomic level.
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For me, and I think a lot of guys, we don't give a fuck if you're funny.
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Like, give her a fuck if she's not pretty, but she's funny.
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But, like, say that he's, like, a solid six, but he has jokes and can make me laugh.
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Like, oh, like, we like a funny guy because we laugh when our eyes are closed.
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Like, girls go for the funny guys because when they laugh, their eyes are closed and they can't look at me.
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Well, so I agree with you that I think a lot of women enjoy a guy who's funny.
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Honestly, a lot of men, they don't give a fuck if you're funny.
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But personality-wise, I think funny is, like, low on the totem pole.
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I'm going to say I think a lot of guys just want a super chill, mellow, demure.
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I mean, it's just, it's the same answer every time.
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It's like, all guys are going to have their own preferences.
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Generally, I think, looks-wise, most guys aren't going to want a super lazy girl, whether it's,
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like, you work out all the time or, you know, you go out and do things.
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So, it's like, there's not, I really don't feel like there's any actual type that a guy
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looks at, personality or, like, or just physical.
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It's like, you know, whether you're thin or you're thicker.
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If you keep up with yourself, you know, I feel like guys really look maybe at, like,
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If some guys actually do like it where they feel like the girl doesn't have their life
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together, so they're, like, either, like, their protector or, I feel like guys like to
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So, you're saying guys like when a girl doesn't have her life together?
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I'm saying some guys do want the mommy type, and then other guys want, you know, that not
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Some guys like the independent woman, and then other guys like to be their protector,
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I don't know if I'm saying it the right way, but.
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Well, I feel like looks-wise, they all do seem to go for ass, boobs.
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It's, like, unrealistic sometimes, but, you know, sometimes they have, like, this unrealistic,
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you know, curvy, flat tummy, big boobs, big butt, but at the end of the day, they're
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But, like, personality-wise, I feel like they split into two categories.
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Like, some men do like, like she said, like, the mommy type.
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A girl that will cook for them, clean for them, do their laundry, you know, be there
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And some men do like a girl who, I get what you were trying to say.
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Like, the men like to be dominant, feel dominant.
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Like, they kind of feel threatened if the girl has more money than them, you know?
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Because now they're feeling like, well, what can I give to you?
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And so, that's, they kind of split two ways on what men like.
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It seems like, at least, from a girl's point of view.
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Yeah, that whole discussion in terms of who's the breadwinner, that is an interesting one.
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Um, I think, uh, because I do think, at least in the past, one of the ways men made themselves
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But that's, that's, that's still to this day, but that's kind of gone for the most part.
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Because women are, women are going to college, getting jobs.
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And actually, they did a study that, uh, women who live in cities who are, uh, single, it's
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not even single, who are unmarried and childless between the ages of 18 and 29 are out earning
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In, in, I think even in Santa Barbara, they released a study recently throughout numerous
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Um, in that, in that specific, uh, age demographic, never married, no kids.
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So, but you also hear these stories of, amongst older professional women, that they're failing
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So, yeah, um, so, just curious, show of hands, or maybe we can go around the table.
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Do you think that, since we're on the topic of finances, do you guys think that guys care
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I think as long as you're not, like, a mooch and, like, being, I mean, at this age, at,
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like, in our, all, in our 20s, I think everybody, man or woman, is kind of, like, you know, just
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But, at any point, because, yeah, if you're in college, sure, like, most guys, they're
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not, like, thinking so much, I'd say women, too, they're not really so concerned with the
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But, I think once you start getting into the, into, uh, your profession, you get a bit older,
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I think, as our generation grows to be in our 30s and 40s, that it will matter more, maybe,
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to men, if you are, like, financially, like, okay.
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But, like you said, like, in the past, like, the generation of our parents, it was, you know,
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men were taught to be the providers for their families.
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So, I think, yeah, as we get older, maybe, yes, they will probably care.
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So, wait, as men will care more as they get older?
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So, like, this generation now, as of 2020, too.
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Um, I think that it was very much, men were, like, breadwinners.
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But, I think as we kind of balance out as we get older, I mean, it might make a difference.
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So, I'm going to say, yes, maybe they'll care if a woman is financially stable as we get older.
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There's the man who doesn't care what they make and likes.
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So, say it's, like, you're dating or involved or with whatever, a guy.
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Or, they just want to pay for everything or, like, take care of you in a way to make it seem like they're the caregiver of the relationship or whatever it is.
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Or, there's a, I think it's also, like, a thing if they don't want to pay for everything or give a lot.
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Say, like, the woman doesn't make a lot and they just take, take, take, but don't seem very appreciative of it.
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I think that's where, like, it kind of gets up to be a big problem.
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I guess whoever initiated the date, whoever asks, because I feel like if you're asking, or I'll put it this way, since usually men ask.
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If I'm asking you to go out and I'm picking the place, then, I mean, obviously, I'm not going to expect your pockets to be at that level.
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Like, what if I pick, like, a fancy restaurant and you're in pockets right there?
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Wait, so this is a first date, but you're, you're going to pick.
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If I invite them and I pick this place, I wouldn't expect them to pay.
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A guy asks you out, first date, does he pay or do you split?
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If a guy asks me out and he wants to go out with me, like.
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You know, if you want me to come out with you, then I would expect you to pay.
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If he wants to go out and have a good time and, you know, we get there, we have drinks,
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the bill comes out a little bit more expensive than he was anticipating it was going to be.
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But, you know, initially, I would think that you would pay for it if you were asking me out.
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If he asked to split, is there going to be a second date?
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No, it really just depends on the circumstances.
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But, you know, if you're, like, asking me out and then you make it seem like, hey, I've got everything.
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And then, you know, we finish the date and it's like, yo, can we split?
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I don't ever want to say no, there would be no second date.
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If a guy asked me out on a date, I would expect him to pay.
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But, like, I would offer to be like, do you want to split it?
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But I'll probably, like, get the dessert or, like, the tip maybe.
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So, I'm not, like, just putting it all on him, you know?
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What if you offered a split and he's like, okay.
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I wouldn't immediately be like, there's no date.
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You offer a buddy set and he takes you up on your offer.
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I feel like I wouldn't be mad because I offered.
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If it's really expensive, like, I don't expect him to pay the full thing.
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And all I've, like, I've gone up to a guy at a bar and be like, hey, I think you're really attractive.
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And, you know, like, I'm always one to, like, I'm down to, like, buy the drinks since I've offered to buy the drinks.
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And then we went to the bar and I bought the drinks.
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And the bartender was kind of taken back by that.
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He's like, oh, like, kind of made a comment about it.
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And there's totally a second date if we split the bill.
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Wait, so you said that you're going up to guys asking them out on dates?
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I haven't had a guy ask me out in, I don't remember.
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But, I mean, like, I'm more comfortable now going out and being like, hey, I think you're really attractive.
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I am very down to split anything, especially at this age.
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Like, it would be more expected, like, when I'm older, if a guy asks me out on a date to say, like, to, like, pay for the bill just because we're older and we have the finance to do so.
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But I think at this age, at any point in time, I think it's fine to split the bill, especially if it's an expensive restaurant and they're like, I want to go out with you, blah, blah, blah.
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But then I don't think if you put it all on him, it's a little hard to afford at this age, if that makes sense.
00:41:09.080
And so you were saying that when you got a bit older, at that point, you might feel a bit more of an expectation.
00:41:50.920
If they're, like, a cool person, like, I like to vibe with somebody before.
00:41:55.880
So I would like to be, like, friends on the initial level.
00:41:59.640
Let's say if it's an older man, then I expect him to, like, pay.
00:42:04.120
But if we're, like, in the same age range, then I would say split it.
00:42:08.780
Or if we got dinner and then went to the bar after and got drinks, then if he pays for dinner, then I'll pay for drinks.
00:42:18.160
Because you're just getting to know each other.
00:42:26.760
So probably going to get hate from both men and women on this.
00:42:33.260
So this whole idea of whoever asks should pay, I do feel like ignores the fact that de facto, the vast majority of men, they have to be the ones who initiate and ask for a date.
00:42:58.640
But I'd say most men's experiences, especially the average man's experiences, if he wants to go on a date, to go anywhere, he's going to have to initiate almost every single step along the way.
00:43:11.480
So, by the way, 2022, feminism, equality, all that.
00:43:42.360
And then I'm going to come in with my take kind of on the whole standards thing.
00:43:55.100
Vitaly ZDTV asks, I don't think that's the real one.
00:44:09.900
Murder, no, but if it was like assault, maybe he changed or something.
00:44:34.160
One of my ex-boyfriends is in prison for murder.
00:44:40.340
So, why don't you tell us a little bit about that?
00:44:45.620
You were with him while he was, did you meet him?
00:44:52.860
So he's actually, we were just teenagers when it actually happened.
00:45:00.820
And, you know, I knew his whole family, everything like that.
00:45:03.860
He's a good person and some bad circumstances happened.
00:45:07.580
And the environment we were in at the time happened to be an area where a lot of people recklessly carried guns.
00:45:18.180
And he's currently in prison right now for murder.
00:45:21.780
And aside from that, I've also, I've also dated like a couple felons.
00:45:49.200
But, so I would say you can't really judge anybody for that kind of stuff.
00:45:54.220
I mean, it is a hard life to come after, especially if you catch a charge like that, after 18.
00:46:03.220
But, so tell us about, so you met him in prison or?
00:46:08.360
We were teenagers together, and we had dated previous to that.
00:46:12.180
And he went through some hard circumstances where his parents had, they had been together.
00:46:21.760
And his mom had been with his dad for years and years and years.
00:46:25.780
And as soon as they got a divorce, she decided that she was going to leave him in his sophomore year alone in Colorado.
00:46:38.080
Was it in self-defense, or was it just, let's not get into it.
00:46:45.680
Well, again, we were kids, so it's not like we were, like, probably three years.
00:46:54.280
I did visit him while he was still in jail, previous to COVID.
00:46:59.160
At what point in the relationship did the murder happen?
00:47:05.200
At one point, we had a really strong relationship where he was in a difficult area where I knew he was seeing other girls, but, like, I supported him because he was my friend.
00:47:18.240
It's a huge, long story, but at probably the end, probably, like, year three.
00:47:28.060
So shortly after he went to prison is when, or shortly after he was arrested is when the relationship ended.
00:47:37.920
It had ended, like, a few months, like, a little bit before that, but we were, like, off and on.
00:47:46.540
So I guess it had ended previous to that, but we were still close.
00:47:54.040
I'm sure Vitaly here appreciates all your answers.
00:48:24.420
Ask the ladies to rate themselves on a scale of one to ten.
00:48:48.380
Just to be clear, we're not, you know, considering personality, any of these things.
00:49:25.240
I asked you this yesterday, and you didn't answer.
00:49:48.060
I do say ten when I look in the right mirror, but I don't think...
00:49:56.700
Confident-wise, I will say ten, but, like, seven is, I feel like, is a good number because...
00:50:04.060
There's, like, days where I'm just, like, shit.
00:50:08.440
But, like, there's days where I'm, like, in the gym, and I'm just, like, okay, like, I look
00:50:14.580
But, like, I also, like, I'm working on myself to, like, be the most confident and, like,
00:50:19.520
feel the best that I can, and, like, you know, when I feel the best I can, like, yeah, like,
00:50:26.380
So, it's, like, what are we comparing ourselves to if there's a standard?
00:51:08.120
But, like, for me, personally, like, I don't know.
00:51:10.780
If they're funny and they have a good personality and they have, like, the aspects that I want
00:51:14.300
personality-wise, like, kind, good person, okay, then, you know, say you're not, like,
00:51:19.080
a ten, like, good looks, okay, like, I don't care, that's fine.
00:51:22.400
Like, if you can treat me well and you're a good person...
00:51:38.280
And I certainly agree with you that your personality, who you are as a person, can make you more
00:51:44.180
attractive to a person or make you a better partner.
00:51:47.280
I think if you ask most guys if they'd rather be with a ten, but she's a bitch, or a girl
00:51:52.640
who's, like, six or seven, but she's really sweet, great, feminine, submissive, like, all
00:51:57.680
this stuff, they're gonna go with the girl who's less physically attractive.
00:52:06.600
So, thank you, Stephen Stifler, for the question.
00:52:09.460
Mike Davis is roasting you guys in the chat, so let's see what he has to say.
00:52:35.280
We have some other super chats here we're gonna go through.
00:52:47.780
Stephen, or sorry, David Buss, evolutionary psych.
00:52:59.920
Fives match with five on intelligence and looks.
00:53:03.420
Stephen, you have to stop drinking while you're...
00:53:11.320
I'm totally sober, but English is my second language.
00:53:14.980
Uh, Stephen, you gotta stop being liquored up every time you watch the show,
00:53:18.120
because we cannot comprehend what you're saying.
00:53:36.380
Okay, if I were a perfect ten, I would not see a guy on the street who is trying to...
00:53:42.060
Or if he's trying to talk to me and, like, let's not...
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And I'm not gonna completely brush him off and be like, you're not a ten, you can't talk to me.
00:53:50.980
I'm not, you know, give the guy a chance, you know?
00:54:00.780
Let's say I was, like, a four, and a ten comes up to me, I'm probably gonna be like, shit, why is he talking to me, you know?
00:54:15.240
It kind of just goes way back to when we were talking about preference in a person.
00:54:31.740
They legally make more money and don't know how to avoid Uncle Sam.
00:54:46.060
Like, aren't we, like, paid a little bit less than men?
00:54:59.560
I just worked at a job where, like, it was discussed throughout employees.
00:55:03.360
It wasn't legally discussed, but, like, we discussed it.
00:55:22.500
And the female supervisor did not have his own desk.
00:55:26.320
The female supervisor did not have her own desk.
00:55:41.220
But, no, women are paid less and not treated as well.
00:55:55.200
The wage gap has been debunked by various economists.
00:56:07.100
That's when you look at the broad, the entire population, and you add up all the money men
00:56:11.980
make, all the money women make, and you don't adjust for things like hours worked.
00:56:30.980
If you really look and break down, you know, compare like to like, it's payscale.com recently
00:56:38.560
did a study, and it's, like, the wage gap, as it's so-called, it's really an earnings gap.
00:56:58.120
I honestly have no knowledge when it comes to...
00:57:05.840
I've never worked in a workspace, though, where that came into play, like, because I am really
00:57:14.320
I'm a nanny right now, so it's, like, I get paid my own pay.
00:57:18.860
So I've never had to come into the wage gap situation, and I've never actually really had
00:57:24.360
any knowledge on wage gap personally, because I've never had to talk about it, and I've
00:57:31.180
So I don't really have anything to say on that, as far as I just don't know.
00:57:40.560
I mean, I would just ask that, as far as the wage gap goes, if it was truly the case that
00:57:47.360
employers could pay women far less, then why would they hire men?
00:57:53.920
That, to me, it's like, if you can pay a woman less, then only women would get hired.
00:57:59.100
And it's also, since the 1960s, it's been written into law.
00:58:03.720
It is illegal to, for the same job, you know, equal pay, equal work.
00:58:10.140
So if you can prove, if you can show that you're being paid less than your exact counterpart,
00:58:17.420
you would have the basis of a, you could litigate.
00:58:27.080
So, okay, we're going to continue with the Super Chats here.
00:58:52.100
Listen, fellow kings, the best advice when it comes to women is to watch what they do,
00:59:00.880
I suppose that applies to both genders, though.
00:59:16.840
Stephen, we may, right now we have Eric on the ones and twos.
00:59:26.720
Um, also, wait, Eric, can you also Google, uh, payscale.com wage gap while we're at it?
01:00:03.400
Maybe those $5 super shots should be thrown on stage instead.
01:00:19.160
Uh, can you, uh, control mouse wheel that a little bigger, Eric?
01:00:36.180
Okay, you can, uh, did you pull up pay scale, Eric?
01:00:45.980
Uh, Brixen, do you wear the Slame flannel every pod?
01:01:00.560
Uh, this is, yeah, I've only worn three different flannels, so I switch it up from time to time.
01:01:06.020
And then Steven, real quick, while we're on the super chats, $5 super chat.
01:01:10.960
Uh, the power trip type of personality in women, also in men, in different contexts, try to weaponize perceived misogyny for their own financial benefit.
01:01:20.460
Steven, I'm telling you, man, lay off the liquor, dude.
01:01:22.340
I can't understand what you are saying, but thank you for the support, man.
01:01:27.000
The power trip type of personality, trying to weaponize perceived misogyny for their own.
01:01:40.260
Yeah, yeah, we're gonna, we're bringing it back here.
01:01:45.340
Okay, so, we were talking about standards, preferences.
01:01:57.040
Okay, they didn't like the wage gap talk, but, uh, you know, it's okay.
01:02:01.460
Uh, so, in our last show, uh, we had a bit of a heated, heated debate on a couple things.
01:02:10.700
Not, not you and me so much, but the armpit hair chick.
01:02:23.760
Yeah, so, um, one of the big preferences and standards that a few people on the panel took quarrel with,
01:02:33.260
and I'm gonna go through some other preferences and standards that men have,
01:02:36.520
but one of the big ones, or two of the big ones, is, so, one of the big things that men care about is,
01:02:44.800
and some people disagree, is, and this is, okay, so, one of the things men value in a woman is sexual purity.
01:03:03.780
Uh, so, why don't we talk a bit about body count?
01:03:15.460
We can say both, but let's say, should, I mean, if we want to frame it from the men's preference perspective,
01:03:30.520
I mean, no, but unfortunately, like, it does, to some degree.
01:03:38.420
Like, of course, like, guys always talk about wanting a lady with a low body count, but do they have a low body count?
01:03:50.080
As long as you're safe and you're, like, you know, I think that's a question that doesn't really matter to some people.
01:04:06.620
I'm going to just say a lot of men prefer women with a low body count.
01:04:12.840
If you line up 100 men and you say, would you prefer a girl who slept with fewer men?
01:04:18.760
No guy's going to say, if a guy has a girlfriend, no guy, he's going to say, no.
01:04:26.700
No guy's going to be like, gee, I really wish, you know, my last girlfriend, or I really wish my current girlfriend had slept with more men.
01:04:35.400
Well, no guy, no guy or girl is going to, like, prefer to date somebody who's slept around.
01:04:46.460
For me, it's like, I would prefer, you know, to date somebody who, like, but if I meet them and I vibe with them and their body count's high, so what?
01:04:55.140
I'm not going to just, it's not going to be a deal breaker.
01:05:02.980
Like, not a whore, but, like, you know, like, I don't know.
01:05:12.600
But, like, if they have a higher body count, they've been around a block, they kind of have some experience.
01:05:18.040
They kind of know, like, okay, because some guys don't know where stuff is.
01:05:30.620
A guy who's had three long-term relationships each lasting a year and they were having consistent sex?
01:05:37.000
Or a guy who's slept with 70 women and he's, the most amount of times he's slept with one woman is, like, three times.
01:05:44.620
The guy that had the long relationships knows those three girls' bodies and knows what those three girls, like, not what, like, the specific, but, obviously, you have to, like, know your partner.
01:05:57.520
But versus the guy that's had the 70, he kind of, like, I don't know, you learn new tricks.
01:06:06.340
I mean, if you really want to go deep, like, well, no pun intended, in terms of exploring things sexually, like, that shit's really not going to, I mean, I don't know.
01:06:17.740
On a one-night stand, it's going to be kind of basic.
01:06:25.980
Okay, so, so you, you seem adamant, body count doesn't matter.
01:06:40.760
Like, I have a friend that has 99, you know, and it, it doesn't matter.
01:06:47.320
Personally, I don't, I doesn't, as long as you're clean and you're safe, I don't care.
01:06:53.200
I don't even need to know, if I'm, if I'm in a relationship with a person, I don't even need to know how many people you've been with.
01:06:58.840
Like, obviously, if we're, like, at, like, a small function and there's a girl in the room that you've slept with, I'd like to know, like, oh, yeah, her.
01:07:09.460
So, it seemed like everyone here said, shouldn't matter.
01:07:20.660
I mean, stopped keeping track after five, because it just did not happen.
01:07:31.340
Like, it all depends on when you lost your virginity.
01:07:40.860
So, do you know, but do you know what the body count is?
01:07:45.460
It's definitely, it's, it's, um, somewhere between, like, maybe, like, 15, 25, somewhere
01:08:02.760
I mean, considering when I lost my virginity, it was a young age, um, to a boyfriend that
01:08:16.980
I mean, I don't usually say mine just because I, like, I don't think it matters enough for
01:08:24.340
That's kind of where I, like, I haven't even told boyfriends.
01:08:27.040
Like, I don't tell them because I'm like, there's no need for people to know it.
01:08:34.720
I've had a boyfriend ask and I've, I've had friends ask just because, like, you know,
01:08:39.640
and it's not crazy, but I'm like, if I'm safe and clean, I don't think it matters
01:08:50.280
But a little bit earlier, you said you wouldn't date a felon.
01:09:01.760
But, like, murder, I feel like, is a different than sleeping around.
01:09:11.480
I'm going to call upon my Fifth Amendment right.
01:09:22.340
Well, multiply it by three and that's the real number.
01:09:29.280
Would you be willing to give a range or an over-under?
01:09:57.720
So, that is one of the things that guys care about.
01:10:08.020
Like, I could give you any number off the top of my head.
01:10:11.900
Yeah, because I heard that guys lower their body, too.
01:10:26.420
But, I mean, like, if someone in your circle was privy to, like, if it wasn't a mystery
01:10:33.400
That someone else in that social group or friend group slept with a lot of people.
01:10:47.640
Yeah, I guess, like, if you slept with the whole football team, like, that makes sense.
01:10:54.200
But it's, like, after that, like, how, you know?
01:10:59.640
What if she slept with the whole baseball team, too, but she didn't tell you that part?
01:11:10.740
Like, they would know she slept with the whole football team because they talk.
01:11:13.980
But it's like, how would you know any further than that?
01:11:16.560
They all talk to the point of, like, group chat talk.
01:11:22.420
It's not even, like, I'm not even talking about the team.
01:11:32.600
Like, girls are just like, oh, yeah, like, I'm talking to, like, these two boys.
01:11:35.460
And then she thinks that the two boys don't know each other.
01:11:39.100
Wait, guys talk about everything with each other?
01:11:55.140
Okay, so I've written down a whole list of preferences, standards, and boundaries.
01:12:03.540
But before I get into the list, it's a long list.
01:12:10.600
No, we're going to try to end in, like, 40 minutes or so.
01:12:46.220
Probably smells like the whole penitentiary down there.
01:13:08.580
Meredith, why don't you tell us a little bit about working at the Spearmint Rhino.
01:13:13.720
Tell us about how frequently you work, how much money you make, etc., etc.
01:13:25.540
I mean, there's been so many crazy stories that I don't know if I could hone in on one
01:13:33.620
But I work generally, like, four to five days a week.
01:13:42.940
But, I mean, money varies so much that I can't really give you a range.
01:13:49.920
I would say, like, most dancers would say they probably make, like, $80,000 a year.
01:14:16.480
Like, would you want to know how it affects, like, my view on standards and boundaries and
01:14:33.160
It really depends on the night, whatever is going on, what time of month it is.
01:14:47.920
I'm saying it in the manner of people, like, having just paid rent or, let's say, around
01:14:55.460
Like, you could leave with $65 or you could leave with $1,400.
01:15:10.480
You know what's so attractive about younger women?
01:15:14.780
Because a lot of these dudes talk about fertility and looks and stuff.
01:15:19.720
I think that in the modern world, in the days of old, right, you'd meet a woman, you'd get
01:15:23.740
married, you'd be together, whatever, whatever.
01:15:24.960
In the modern world, if I meet a girl who's 33 and single, I know the amount of dick that's
01:15:29.200
been through her before me is just simply unattractive.
01:15:36.300
If I get a 19-year-old girl, I might be your second or third man, right?
01:15:41.140
And all the trauma and heartbreak and bullshit they put you through, you're going to try
01:15:46.280
Like, well, if my last man cheated, I don't give a fuck.
01:15:50.920
So, if you pick up older women, you have to accept they've been on the carousel longer.
01:15:58.600
When I see a beautiful young woman, I know that she has a very low body count.
01:16:01.860
And also, no, but the truth is this, women's mentality is absolutely connected to sex.
01:16:08.060
If a woman sleeps with a bunch of men, it's harder to penetrate her mind and make her fall
01:16:13.900
But if she's had 30 dudes inside of her, is she really going to think, you know what,
01:16:19.100
Or is she going to think, you know what, he talked to me real quick, let's go get a new
01:16:21.240
Whereas if a woman's only been with a few guys, she's much more likely to fall in love with
01:16:24.460
The likelihood of her falling completely in love with you and staying loyal to you and really
01:16:28.900
believing you're the only man for her after being through so much trauma
01:16:31.760
and so many men and sleeping with so many dudes and having her heart broken and having
01:16:35.240
those memories of her ex and all that crap she's been through is far less likely than
01:16:38.960
meeting a nice, young, beautiful girl who hasn't been with many men.
01:16:41.280
And she goes, you know what, this is the guy, I like him.
01:16:43.600
Every woman who knows this and every man who watches this can be honest.
01:16:45.780
Women fall in love with the person they lose their virginity to or their second or third
01:16:50.240
Any woman who slept with 50 dudes, she doesn't even remember who most of them are.
01:16:53.200
If a woman slept with a bunch of men before you, she's less likely to stick it out through a difficult
01:16:57.040
She's more likely to just say, you know what, new answers, new dig.
01:17:01.860
If I meet a beautiful 30-year-old woman, I'm not saying I won't sleep with her.
01:17:24.360
He's saying the younger girl has no, she hasn't had any partners.
01:17:28.300
She has nobody to compare me to, so it's easier for her to fall in love with me because she
01:17:34.400
So it must not be that good if you're worried about all the guys in her past.
01:17:43.800
But he's making it sound like he has to impress someone.
01:17:49.440
In order to impress her mentally, she can't have too many partners.
01:17:52.200
Wait, but, okay, so before you said that body count doesn't matter, but then you just said
01:17:59.440
So what is the difference between having a high body count and being ran through?
01:18:04.300
But I'm saying, like, terminology-wise, that's what they refer it to.
01:18:07.780
If she's had a lot of partners, she's ran through.
01:18:11.760
But, I mean, that's sort of the comparable thing to guys don't want a girl with a high body
01:18:22.820
Well, I mean, but I'm just pointing out that earlier you said body count shouldn't matter.
01:18:28.080
But you're acknowledging now that guys don't want a girl who's been ran through.
01:18:32.680
Or you're not saying that guys don't have that preference, but you're saying...
01:18:36.520
I mean, they can have that preference, but I'm saying that's where their head is at when
01:18:41.240
That it's like, okay, that's what they refer to her as.
01:18:45.280
And she's had a lot of partners that she's ran through, so now it makes it harder for
01:18:53.700
So the confidence is just low, is what it sounds like.
01:18:55.700
And then, just to the camera, show again what you were doing.
01:19:13.340
For me, it's like, it does kind of go to body count, being that I know that there are 19-year-olds,
01:19:23.180
younger girls, who have higher body counts than a 33-year-old woman.
01:19:30.460
There could be a woman who's in her 40s, who literally her whole entire teenage life
01:19:35.160
saved herself for marriage, married the man that she lost her virginity to.
01:19:42.320
She got married, and then obviously lost her virginity, or not 40, but somebody who waited
01:19:47.540
until marriage, lost it, and then they divorced, and she's dating, and maybe has two to three
01:19:55.640
or four more bodies now, but it's like, then there could be, you know, a 20-year-old girl
01:20:09.540
I mean, I agree with you that there could be an outlier, like a woman who's 35.
01:20:26.620
Like, we're in a time now where, from our, like, I don't want to start, like, getting
01:20:32.500
into this, because I know there's going to be, like, controversy over it, but it's like,
01:20:36.640
I feel like our age now, we don't respect, like, not me personally, but, like, some people
01:20:44.780
just don't respect relationships as much, and they'd rather have a good time.
01:20:48.160
You know, more power to you, do whatever you want.
01:20:51.220
But, you know, older people of the older age, obviously, it was a different time for them.
01:20:58.900
Relationships were a lot more common than sleeping around.
01:21:06.740
I mean, I definitely think promiscuity has steadily been on the rise, and probably ever
01:21:11.340
since social media, dating apps, it's been much more heavily on the rise.
01:21:16.920
But, I mean, what he's kind of trying to say is it's both about age, but also about body
01:21:22.840
count, and, I mean, I think most of us here in 10 years' time are going to have slept with
01:21:31.640
more people than the number that we currently slept with.
01:21:35.200
So, if you look at a 19-year-old versus a 29-year-old, the likelihood that the 29-year-old
01:21:41.080
has had far more sexual partners is, it's, I don't know what the percentage would be,
01:21:48.440
but, I mean, it's much more likely that someone who's 29 has slept with more people than at 19.
01:21:53.160
I know some 18, 19-year-old girls that have been through 100-plus guys.
01:22:01.800
Freshman, first semester, you know, ran through.
01:22:12.240
It's just like, it's kind of, for me, body count still doesn't matter in my, but, you know,
01:22:21.660
it's just, but you're, so you're, you're more likely to find someone, men or, a man or a woman
01:22:29.360
at age 19, 20, 21, who's had fewer sexual partners than if you're also looking in, say, 29, 30, 31.
01:22:37.960
Yeah, and there's also girls who now are, and I know quite a few, who are tired of the men our age,
01:22:45.060
so they go older, so obviously they are going to have a higher body count, which obviously means
01:22:55.140
Yeah, yeah, and then guys, yeah, obviously a 20-year-old boy isn't going to want to date
01:23:01.220
If he's into that, cool, that's fine, but it's most likely that the older men, that's why
01:23:06.160
pretty much sugar daddies exist, is because they want the younger woman to spoil, and, yeah, so, I don't know.
01:23:15.260
Yeah, I feel like body count doesn't matter, and girls shouldn't be held to the standard
01:23:19.360
that we should have a lower body count, and, like, I said this last time, but people have
01:23:23.740
their pasts, like, you don't know what they're going through, and if they, like, had used sex
01:23:30.160
Like, I know people who have gone through that, but that doesn't change, like, the type of person
01:23:35.080
that they are, their relationships, like, from then on, you know?
01:23:38.360
It could have an impact on their relationships.
01:23:40.940
I mean, he listed a couple reasons, but I think it's just a thing that guys want.
01:23:48.560
Yeah, but I don't think, like, we all said we don't care about body count, so why should
01:23:54.600
Well, do you think that attraction is symmetrical?
01:23:59.620
In other words, things that men find attractive in women, do you think women find those exact
01:24:08.340
Right, so there are things that men value in a partner that women don't care about.
01:24:14.660
Well, he said, like, I feel like even if they have less bodies or more bodies, that wouldn't,
01:24:18.440
like, change the relationship that she's going to go into, you know?
01:24:21.840
Like, maybe her sample size, I guess you would call it, is, like, less, so she would maybe
01:24:26.740
fall for him more easily, but, like, I don't understand what he was saying about that part.
01:24:30.100
I mean, my impression is, is if I'm talking to a girl and she's slept with a hundred women
01:24:36.280
before, or sorry, a hundred, she could be a bi, she could be a bi.
01:24:41.480
Like, identify her gender, like you called me out on.
01:24:46.740
If she, if I'm talking to a girl and somehow comes about, she's like, yeah, I've slept with
01:25:05.600
I mean, she, she's going to be, I'm going to be number hundred one.
01:25:13.640
She's not going to be able to, like, I'm, I'm immediately going to think, and I could
01:25:17.140
be wrong, but, like, my gut instinct's going to be, she's not going to be able to commit.
01:25:27.020
In the same way that a guy who's a player, and just running through, like, I'm sure you
01:25:33.400
But, but if, and again, I think girls don't care so much about body count, but if a guy
01:25:38.540
is a player, and let's say you genuinely, like, you are really, really after a long-term
01:25:43.200
relationship with someone, and you know for a fact that guy's a player, and he's slept
01:25:55.400
So I'll give you a couple reasons why body count matters.
01:26:00.560
If someone slept with a lot of people, they're more likely to have an STD, be it incurable
01:26:07.260
So I don't think it's a particularly controversial take for people to not want to get an STD.
01:26:13.420
So if you've had a lot of sexual partners, you could have an STD.
01:26:21.100
If you just hooked up, if you're hooking up with a bunch of people, you could have an
01:26:35.120
When we talk about, like, body count, like, having multiple people, what if somebody's been
01:26:44.160
So not necessarily, like, hooking up every single one.
01:26:47.300
Not necessarily, like, hooking up with somebody, like, or randoms and all of that.
01:26:53.860
But, like, having singular little things or relationships, not multiple people at a time
01:27:00.840
or every day of the week or whatever it may be.
01:27:10.580
She had a couple come in, and this is why I say some people are born with STDs.
01:27:14.000
She had a couple come in who obviously both had one.
01:27:19.120
What percentage of people would you say were born with an STD?
01:27:24.260
But if it happens, it's not that child's fault.
01:27:29.840
Well, I still wouldn't want to sleep with them.
01:27:33.080
But it's like some people, it's like they couldn't help.
01:27:37.220
It's like just because you sleep with a lot of people or if you have an STD doesn't mean
01:27:43.720
Well, I mean, we have to think exceptions don't make the rule.
01:27:49.820
So yeah, the very first time you have sex, you could get herpes.
01:27:54.740
Just like you could get pregnant the very first time you have sex.
01:28:03.940
So the fact of the matter is if you sleep with 100 people versus you sleep with one person,
01:28:09.560
two, three, four, five, six, seven, you're at a higher risk of getting an STD.
01:28:17.300
So that's a reason why I think that's a reason why I think both men and women should value
01:28:24.800
a partner who's not promiscuous, but those days are gone.
01:28:29.060
But people have their past and depends on the type of person.
01:28:34.040
As long as you're clean though, like you stay clean, you get tested, you're safe about it.
01:28:39.980
Because I do have friends where she's been with her partner and like with her partner
01:28:45.960
and he, you know, was being shady and gave her an STD without telling her and she found
01:28:50.520
out because she was with her next partner and she gave it to him, you know?
01:28:55.360
So it looks shady, but that's why I'm like, it doesn't matter as long as you're, you get
01:29:07.840
Well, you mentioned like get tested, but I mean, you said you're, I don't mean to bring
01:29:19.640
this up in this sort of way, but of these sexual encounters you've had, have you been
01:29:29.060
Every single, before you have sex with the person for the first time, every single time
01:29:46.600
I mean, and then there's even afterwards, like some people are asymptomatic.
01:29:52.060
I had like one of my friends, his girlfriend went out of town and she was being shady and
01:29:57.560
And you know, females don't realize that they have an STD until much.
01:30:02.520
But like female symptoms come up later than male symptoms I've learned.
01:30:06.020
So the males can tell if they get their symptoms a lot quicker by whatever than we do.
01:30:13.640
So it's just, it's, yeah, you just gotta be safe.
01:30:29.400
So a woman who's promiscuous, who sleeps with a lot of men, you cannot guarantee paternity
01:30:38.700
And so this is like a evolutionary thing in men.
01:30:41.820
And if she sleeps with a lot of the men, she slept with other men.
01:30:46.260
And, you know, most of the time, like back, I guess back in the day, this is gonna sound
01:30:51.620
very unscientific, but like when people first got together with a partner, you know, there,
01:30:56.760
there wasn't condoms and birth control and 50,000 years ago.
01:31:02.540
You think that if she gets pregnant and it's uncertain who the dad is, she might put it on
01:31:13.820
Well, this is more so like throughout evolution, throughout hundreds of thousands of years
01:31:20.080
In the past 40 years, you know, we've figured out DNA, we can do paternity tests, but still
01:31:25.040
that doesn't undo hundreds of thousands of years of evolution and hard wiring.
01:31:29.420
So men are hardwired to be repulsed by promiscuous women.
01:31:34.600
And there's also intellectual reasons too, for why, why men dislike women who have,
01:31:40.320
a promiscuous past, who are promiscuous, who have a high body count.
01:31:44.400
And so that hardwiring though, like you could not guarantee who the child is, who the child
01:31:52.980
As a woman, you get pregnant, you know, the kid's yours.
01:31:56.920
So that's, that's another reason why a woman who's promiscuous, she's a bad bet for paternity.
01:32:12.560
And it comes down to trusting your partner and being loyal with your partner.
01:32:18.580
In, in the same way, like, so speaking on evolution, hardwiring, biology, in the same
01:32:25.440
way that most women want a man who's physically larger than them, be it height or size, it
01:32:34.160
So, and you know, evolutionarily speaking, I think one of the reasons why women find guys
01:32:42.060
I mean, if you ask someone to intellectually articulate, why is it that you want, and not
01:32:49.880
I'd say if you line up a hundred women, most of them are going to say, I would like a guy
01:32:57.140
A guy who's bigger is more capable of protecting you.
01:33:15.300
So, it's like the point we're trying to get across that body count should matter, or.
01:33:21.960
For men, right, which I'm, which I hear that part.
01:33:24.520
It's not, okay, like, I understand what you're, the point you're making is that it's a standard
01:33:33.340
It's not a bad standard to have, like, if that's your standard, that's your standard.
01:33:37.020
If a guy said he didn't like me because of my body count, by all means, that's okay.
01:33:42.780
But I just think it comes down to the point we're trying to make is that nobody really
01:33:49.900
So, why does something that you can't prove or really, like, come all the way down into
01:33:58.240
I mean, somebody could, certainly your partner could lie about it.
01:34:04.620
I think it's the number that's scary because, like, she's saying, people lie.
01:34:09.080
If I were to tell you I have 100 bodies, you'd be like, nope.
01:34:11.480
If I tell you I have two, you'd be like, okay, let's go for it.
01:34:20.680
And then, I mean, my other take is, is that, I don't know.
01:34:26.480
To me, it's just, if I'm talking to a girl and I'm interested in pursuing her and I know
01:34:34.040
that she fucked a guy last night, I don't know, I'm going to feel a certain type of way
01:34:41.100
about, like, I'm just going to be kind of like, she fucked a guy last night, then I'm
01:34:45.400
Like, granted, even if we're not, you know, it's our first date, we're not in a relationship,
01:34:55.600
By the way, there's probably no way I'm going to ever know that.
01:34:58.280
Most girls wouldn't, most girls are not going to be like, by the way, I fucked a guy last
01:35:07.620
The dating meta is as, as it is, you have to assume, like, people are on dating apps, social media,
01:35:15.400
people are very promiscuous, both men and women.
01:35:18.220
By the way, I just want to make something clear.
01:35:20.200
If a woman had a preference for a guy who had a low body count, I think that's totally
01:35:24.120
I don't think a lot of women care as much as men, but if a woman had that standard too,
01:35:29.700
If a girl said, I don't want a guy that's fucked a hundred women, to me, that's not shocking.
01:35:34.560
I think it's safe to say personally that, and this might sound wrong, a girl is already
01:35:41.220
going to assume that a guy's body count is higher.
01:35:50.680
Like, a girl, if I am talking to a guy, I'm automatically in my head, whether he has
01:35:54.800
a body count of two or 50, I'm going to assume it's going to be closer to the higher side
01:36:01.040
And if he does have one lower, on the lower side, that's great, but I'm going to assume
01:36:09.060
and, you know, expect the worst, hope for the best.
01:36:12.540
Which is so unfair for us to do, but I feel like everyone's so quick to judge.
01:36:16.360
You know, like, I'm also, like, I'm a church girl.
01:36:18.860
A lot of my football boys go to church, and I know, like, some people who go to church
01:36:23.480
and, like, absolutely, like, saving themselves from marriage.
01:36:26.000
And then there's some people, like, you know, it's just, it's, yeah, it's just really, it's
01:36:35.900
We're just, like, we just, like, okay, whatever.
01:36:59.160
By the way, guys, we're going to wrap up in probably about 20-ish minutes.
01:37:03.380
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01:37:06.140
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01:37:10.180
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01:37:17.080
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01:37:55.840
What is the hottest thing a man can do to impress a woman without effort or awareness that he's doing it?
01:38:02.260
Really quick, just because we're running a bit low on time.
01:38:07.100
What is the hottest thing a man can do to impress a woman?
01:38:30.100
What did Dave Chappelle say in Women Killed It?
01:38:47.720
I like, I like the, I'm not even, I just like the dominant guy.
01:39:12.780
Opening my car door and not letting me walk on the side of the street.
01:39:19.940
It's the littlest things, but as soon as like somebody like moves me to the inside of
01:39:28.900
Is that because like there's the cars and you're more likely to get hit?
01:39:33.460
It's just like in case they're, like I do it with my little brother.
01:39:35.600
Like I was taught that, you know, in case there's like an, like, you know, it's just
01:39:39.980
Like they just put, grab your shoulder and they move you.
01:39:41.880
Like I have guy friends that do that and I notice it.
01:39:54.200
So that's kind of like falls into traditional gender roles.
01:39:58.080
Would you consider yourself a traditional woman?
01:40:06.080
I mean, it's just for me, it's just, it shows a sense of protectiveness and a sense
01:40:11.780
What if he wants you to be the meat shield from the oncoming car?
01:40:17.420
I don't know how much I'm going to be able to help him.
01:40:23.720
Kind of doing the little things to show that they care.
01:40:26.560
It doesn't have to like, you don't have to limit it to protection and it could go on
01:40:30.420
both sides, the men to the woman, woman to the men, but kind of doing things to show
01:40:36.080
I just, I don't, I don't have anything good to say.
01:40:44.340
What is the hottest thing a man can do to impress a woman?
01:40:57.420
The hottest thing a man can do, instead of impress, the hottest thing a man does that
01:41:12.860
Where they're wearing like a hat and they go to do something and then they like flip
01:41:28.220
Thank you, Brandon, for that very generous super chat and good question.
01:41:47.120
Well, thank you for the 40 currency that we're not sure.
01:42:53.420
This is why body count is important to consider.
01:43:00.660
So, one of the other reasons why I think it matters more to men...
01:43:17.400
Like, women, if you think about it, though, like, I don't...
01:43:25.520
We have a broad spectrum where, like, okay, half of these guys like ass, half of these
01:43:31.940
Women, we have, like, a good chance of having either, you know?
01:43:37.400
It's the odds of we have a much higher, like, if we shoot our shot versus if they shoot
01:43:45.420
You have the power when you shoot your shot, and I've learned that.
01:43:50.660
And I don't know what it is, but, like, for me, I think it's hot.
01:43:54.760
But, like, when I go up and I'll be like, hey, like, can I get your number?
01:43:58.560
I hold all the power and all the cards, and then if he says no, okay, whatever.
01:44:08.960
Because women are kind of used to, like, a bunch of different...
01:44:13.380
Like, it goes back down to all the questions we ask.
01:44:20.420
At almost every single step along the way, men have to take the initiative.
01:44:44.280
When the guy's coming to you, you're in a stronger negotiating position.
01:44:49.100
I agree with that, but it's more, like, for me, I think it's more fun.
01:44:51.760
Like, I have the cards in my favor, when I'm, like...
01:44:59.700
I feel more powerful versus, like, having the guys come up.
01:45:04.080
Like, at the bar, if, like, a cute girl has, like, a bunch of guys coming up, she's kind
01:45:08.160
But then if she does it, and she goes after the one guy that she wants, so I get it.
01:45:12.740
Really quick, do you guys ever DM guys out of the blue?
01:45:30.020
We're, you know, the brain's going slow at this point.
01:45:49.880
I also just, like, I was thinking about this after I left last time.
01:45:52.800
Like, I think I just get the ick really easily.
01:45:55.960
Like, I'm really picky, but there's not, like, a specific type of guy that I look for, you
01:46:11.420
Like, I like them to have, like, clean appearance.
01:46:15.200
Like, I don't have, like, oh, blonde hair, blue eyes, or dark hair, brown eyes.
01:46:23.820
I pick it based on personality and what I said.
01:46:35.700
But do you think that maybe because you have very, very high standards that you're maybe
01:46:43.120
projecting that onto, oh, if I have high standards, then a lot of guys must also have very high
01:47:18.840
And this is getting into a whole other topic, but...
01:47:21.760
Most men are not attractive enough to really have that sort of...
01:47:30.640
If they can't get with the first one, they'll go after the second one.
01:47:50.780
Like, guys, if a girl rejects you, even if she's not tactful about it, just take the L.
01:48:05.480
But yeah, don't be like, if she rejects you, be like, you fucking ugly bitch.
01:48:26.920
You wanted to pay for my body, like, two minutes ago.
01:49:22.080
There's no such thing as last minute pussy on a Tuesday.
01:49:27.740
There's no guy that's going to convince a girl at 10 p.m.
01:49:35.600
They got to take her on a date, meet up in person.
01:49:40.080
But any girl, if she was so inclined, I don't think most girls, though, would just want to...
01:49:45.520
You know, they'd maybe want to date first, whatever.
01:49:52.020
Or you could just walk outside right here on the street.
01:50:07.220
But you ask five, at least one is going to say yes for sure.
01:50:24.120
I'll be like, hey, you see that girl over there?
01:50:30.500
But do you think that's going to go back to a guy, like a girl going up being like,
01:50:34.860
Do you think the guy's going to go back to like, how many guys has she asked to do this?
01:50:43.980
She probably does with every other guy, regardless of it being her first time.
01:50:55.840
Like the majority of people that are either virgins or sexless between the age range of 18 and 29,
01:51:04.080
these are people who are reporting having had no sex in the past year.
01:51:11.160
And so one of the reasons for that is there's this concept called hypergamy.
01:51:23.360
Of the men that you see on dating apps, social media, maybe not social media,
01:51:26.880
of the men you see on dating apps, if you've been on dating apps,
01:51:32.060
what percentage of men would you say you find physically attractive?
01:51:37.500
Um, maybe like a good, I don't know, that's kind of being generous.
01:51:54.260
I'm in school for eight hours, and then I go to the gym.
01:52:00.060
So all, most of the guys in there are attractive to me.
01:52:03.140
But if we're talking about on the street, probably about, yeah, 30, 40%.
01:52:15.100
Okay, so 10% of the guys that you see on a day-to-day basis.
01:52:25.000
Yeah, like I'm not into like surfer, skater boy.
01:52:28.160
By the way, so just to clarify, Isla Vista is a college town.
01:52:30.960
So the men she's seeing, she's not seeing a lot of 30, 40-year-old guys.
01:52:42.640
Like I think the guys at the gym are very attractive.
01:52:45.040
But like I find a lot of guys out in the Isla Vista area very attractive
01:52:54.540
I wouldn't necessarily like go talk to any of them.
01:53:13.680
What percentage of the men on dating apps would you say you find attractive?
01:53:34.760
I would have to, I would have to agree with her.
01:53:45.140
So, the thing is, is that if a lot of, if the majority of women are only finding 10
01:53:50.600
to 20% of the men attractive, most of the women, there's going to be a sort of a agreement
01:53:59.000
So, what you have is basically 80% of the women that are going after 20% of the men.
01:54:05.360
Why they, it's easier for them when girls are like throwing themselves at you.
01:54:09.560
That top 20%, and I think it's actually, it's probably shrinking.
01:54:13.400
They, the top tier of men, super attractive men, they have an abundance of choice.
01:54:20.220
I, but I would actually say they, they don't have it when it comes to sleeping with a girl.
01:54:26.260
They actually don't have it anywhere near as easy as even an average looking girl.
01:54:32.460
I think an average looking girl can run circles around even like a top tier model, like model
01:54:40.760
But an average girl, like you, just to sleep with a guy, just to sleep with a guy for, for one time.
01:54:47.560
Like if you really wanted to, yeah, it's easier for girls.
01:55:00.480
So, we kind of went very deep into that super chat.
01:55:02.520
We're just going to get through the rest of these.
01:55:54.720
Understand the incel much more than he understands women.
01:55:57.380
He transitioned from a webcam business to pimping incels.
01:56:04.300
I mean, it seems like a lot of the men that follow him just seem like kind of normal guys.
01:56:30.800
Well, if they have a higher body count, they're less likely to want to talk to her.
01:56:58.280
He'd be the type of guy that drives like those like little loud cars with like, yeah, with
01:57:16.420
Here's the thing is the inside of a girl is about four and a half, five inches deep.
01:57:37.260
What's one thing each girl is most insecure about?
01:57:54.620
Women want a man with a high body count because it's social proof they have game.
01:57:58.860
Men know what they want and don't care about society's opinions.
01:58:04.820
Like, I think what we can actually go around the panel on this.
01:58:10.500
Would any of you want to date or sleep with a guy who's a virgin?
01:58:23.360
But I think if you ask a lot of women, they might be a bit turned off by that because the
01:58:32.880
I don't think watching porn is the best teacher of how to fuck.
01:58:57.120
No, I know I've had one of my friends, like his girlfriend would not sleep with him
01:59:08.160
Girlfriend wouldn't sleep with him because he was a virgin.
01:59:22.060
And she's like, I'm not sleeping with you if you're a virgin, but they were dating.
01:59:39.440
He was a virgin and she wouldn't date with him.
01:59:43.880
Okay, so women want a man with high body count because it's social proof they have game.
01:59:51.580
Okay, so I didn't really fully give my final take on the whole preference.
02:00:01.360
But before I do that, I want to open it up to final thoughts to the panel.
02:00:10.000
So if you have a final thought or you want to ask a question to either me or the panel or Kiki, feel free.
02:00:21.580
My final thought is that, like, over all of the questions of, like, does the body count matter, all of that kind of stuff, I think that, or, like, should they pay first?
02:00:36.540
I think that instead of looking at people's physical traits, their financial traits, or how many people they've had sex with, I think that we all should find somebody that's compatible with us and just honestly be looking for a good person.
02:01:01.140
I mean, I don't have a question, but I guess final thought, kind of pretty much the same thing she was saying.
02:01:05.980
I don't think it really matters about all the outside things as long as you're happy and it works with whoever you're with or whatever you're doing.
02:01:18.360
I don't think a body count matters at all as long as you're safe, clean.
02:01:22.580
And, like, obviously if you're with your person and you have a past, like, talk about your past.
02:01:30.420
I don't think you should categorize any of the genders based on their physical body count or, like, their personal.
02:01:44.780
I just, like, like what we were saying, like, you would prefer to be, like, smaller, you know?
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I like my head at their heart because you can, like, hear the little heart.
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He's going to look for, like, the heartbeat sound.
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And then, like, when you hug them, like, when they're from behind, like, their arms are just, like, right there.
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But what if a guy likes a woman who hasn't been ran through?
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No, I'm saying, like, everyone can have their own preferences.
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It's, like, as long as you're happy, that's all that matters.
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I feel like everybody deserves to be with the person they want.
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And the right guy will be with the right girl if her body count's high or low.
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Like, it's just, if they like each other and they put things aside, that's what's going to happen.
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And if they aren't compatible, then they will find people that they are compatible with.
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So, at the end of the day, it's, like, you're going to be with who you're happy with.
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But I think, in the end, whether it's male or female, just have a preference that you yourself can meet.
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You know, don't be over here saying you don't like a high body count when you yourself have had many partners and all that.
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Well, Andrew Tate, okay, so Andrew Tate, he probably has a very high body count.
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But he has a desire for a woman with a low body count.
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Is it because couldn't, you know, you want, for example, if you want a guy who's taller than you, but you're not tall, right?
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So, there's asymmetries in what people find attractive.
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I think the right people are going to have the right compatibilities, though.
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A tall guy who wants a short girl, he's going to find a short girl.
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And if she wants to be with a tall guy, she's going to be with him.
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And it all comes down to, like, if a guy, if the body count really is an issue with him, he will say, look, you're cool, we hung out, but, like, you know, it's not going to work and it's just going to end there.
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I just feel like that's, like, a horrible comparison because it's, like, okay.
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It's not the best, but, okay, let's think about it, like, this way.
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Like, okay, what if a girl, if a girl wants someone who has a lot of money, who can buy her all this designer stuff.
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She's a brokie, but she wants a guy who is rich.
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You're setting a standard for yourself that you yourself can't reach.
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So it's, like, why is your standard you want a girl with a low body count when you yourself are ran through?
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Like, why do you get to have all the fun and you want her to be, like, fresh?
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Why you get to have all the fun and you got your fun in and now that you are done with it all, your high body count is there.
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Now you want someone who has a body count of two or a virgin, like he was saying, a fresh, meat, 19-year-old.
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Well, I don't think every guy has a high body count.
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Well, Andrew Tate's, I mean, this guy's, I think his net worth is, like, $500 million.
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Kickboxing champion, fit, 6'1", beautiful bald head.
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He is not, by any stretch of the magic, he's not a normal guy.
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Like, I want to know, for personally, like, a guy, meaning you...
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It's hard to say, because it would depend on age.
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Maybe someone in your age range, because you're a little...
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So, then, say that you are going on, like, a Tinder date with this 33-year-old woman.
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Her body count, what would be that, like, eh, deal-breaker kind of thing for you?
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I mean, so, there's other factors, too, that come into play.
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It's not just, like, one thing, so, I mean, if...
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So, like, someone around my age, like, 30 to 33, I'm going to start raising my eyebrow
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Like, no-go deal-breaker, probably, like, I want to say more than 30.
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Can I ask, what if she was a high-profile person?
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Yeah, what if, like, an influencer who, like, has, like, however many million followers
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on Instagram, like, wanted to go on a date with you and she had a high body count,
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like, would that, would you take quarrel with that?
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I mean, I don't, honestly, I don't care about, I don't care about how much money a girl has.
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No, yeah, but I'm saying, what if she just has a high body count because she's, like, famous?
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I mean, I don't, I don't think it makes it any worse or better.
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But it's, like, what if it was over 20 and she was 30 and you guys got to know each other?
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In fact, I think women who have a lot of status, who have a lot of money,
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I would think they'd be more cautious about it.
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I mean, there's probably still some that, you know, have a high body count, but.
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Because a lot of people keep their stuff like that.
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Honestly, and, like, I don't, a lot of, a lot of girls who are, like, super successful,
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like, they're not, they're not really sliding into guys' DMs like that.
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Like, a super, Drake, he'll slide into, he would slide into a girl on this panel's DM.
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Like, a, like, a really successful, high status, like, social status guy, he'll get
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You could be a 19-year-old in college, no money, but if you're attractive and you're
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good looking, a very, like, a rich, you know, guy with status could be an NBA player, could
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Well, yeah, so would you take Coral with a girl if she was, like, not a celebrity, maybe,
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Well, because I'm asking, like, would you take Coral with it if she had a higher body
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Not, like, because of it, but just because she has more, no, go.
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Like, what she's saying, like, would it, having a high status, would it cancel out the
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It does, like, the amount, for me, how much money a girl makes does not fucking matter.
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So above 20, you would just be, like, 30 is 30.
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So, here's the thing, like, I know we're in 2022, like, people will be hooking up,
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So, what I would, for long-term commitment, the lower, the better.
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And when I do, it's one drink, two max, a glass of wine, a beer.
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So, when you say pass, you just mean high body count?
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Well, like, maybe they're going through something like what I said earlier or, like.
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To address, like, what if they were going through something.
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So, for example, like, I would not want to date a woman who's a single mother.
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So, whether it's a girl who she just, you know, got knocked up, baby daddy dipped, whatever
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it is, versus she's a widow, it doesn't, that doesn't really change anything.
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I feel like at this point we're just trying to convince him out of his own preference.
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No, right, but I see, like, where you're coming from, because it's like, no matter what it
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is, at the end of the day, his preference is a low body count.
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Well, it's, but bringing it back to the single mother thing, whether she's a widow, whether,
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Well, it's because there would be, and I don't recommend men dating single mothers, because
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the fact of the matter is, like, a girl who does not have a child, she's going to be incredibly
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busy, probably more stressed than would a childless mom, sorry, woman, and she might have expectations
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that in a long-term relationship, she's going to want you to financially support, but the
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thing is, is that you coming in as a guy who's not the biological father, like, and I've
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really, I've went on, like, one or two dates with girls who are single moms, it's impossible
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to, they'll flake last minute, it's impossible, which I.
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I've never had a, like, I've never, I don't think I've even slept with a girl who's had
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a kid, but I've been on two dates with single moms, and tried to arrange a second date,
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flaked, like, oh, my, my kid has this thing, I got, sorry, 30 minutes, I'm already at the
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place, or whatever, you know, I'm already waiting.
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Do you think in your age range it's harder to find.
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I think, I feel like, you know, in, like, 30s, I feel like it's maybe harder to find a
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Because I know, like, for us, it's like, we always put a time on it, but I think time
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starts running out, so girls do have children in their 30s.
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I'll say this, there's a lot of women that have focused on their career and have put finding
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So, I mean, there's a lot, a lot of women, in my age range, even, that don't have any
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kids, but I mean, I'm, I'll, most of my recent relationships have been with people around
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my age, like, I want to say between 29, 28, 29 to 34 in that age range, but, like, I'd
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I would actually say it's my preference to date someone younger.
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Yeah, no, but I, honestly, there's a couple other reasons why not to date a single mom.
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I mean, first, like, in her hierarchy of what she's paying attention to, and, like, you're
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So, I mean, whereas if you're dating a girl who doesn't have a kid, you might be her second
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You know, they're going to be, maybe their career is their first priority.
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Maybe not, but, like, you're always going to come after the kid, so, and I don't have
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kids, so, and the kid's not mine, and so, I don't know.
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It's just a big headache, and then, oh, but you couldn't, you wouldn't be able to discipline.
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She expects you to, if you, if she expects you to provide financially, if you're in a
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long-term relationship, and, but it's still her kid, so she's probably going to have an
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So, you have, you have all the responsibility, but none of the authority that would normally
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No, if you, if you have responsibility, but no authority, to me, that's slavery.
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I mean, we might go over, but I was just going to say, personally, if I did have a child, and
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the father was absent, and somebody came in, and was willing to help, and take on responsibility,
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yes, there would be some fine lines that you can't cross, but, you know, if you are going
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to take on that responsibility, and you want to be in my child's life, then, yeah, I am
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If that is the responsibility you want to take on, but if not, it's totally fine as well.
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And, well, the other thing, too, is once a woman has a child with someone, like, there's
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a greater likelihood that the, the bio dad is, is involved, and that messies the relationship
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that you would have with her, and then she's maybe wanting to, you know, reconcile the
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relationship with a bio dad, and then he's around, and if it's shared custody, he's coming
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by, maybe she has resentment, and it's just a whole fucking thing.
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I've been through it, I've been through it, though.
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And as a guy who does not have a kid, like, why would I put myself in a situation where,
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to me, that, that is not a, when I have other choices, why would I pick what is essentially
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a detrimental choice in a partner when I could date a woman who doesn't have any other kids?
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I'm just speaking because I've been through both scenarios.
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I have dated somebody who does, and I went through the whole messy situation.
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Me and him aren't together, but me and her are good.
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Everything settled down, but I'm just telling you my viewpoint from being on both sides of
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I was, you know, so it's like, I know, I'm not a mom, but listening to her side of the
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story, I know completely how she felt with him.
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It was like, it was just a whole mess, but I can see both sides.
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It's where, as the person where it's like, you don't know what you're walking into, and
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then the one with the child, it's like, you know, you want that family, but at the same
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If the person said, who doesn't want to be the dad, you know, it's just, yeah.
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And also the other thing, not to sound like a total ruthless asshole, but like, if you're
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dating a single mother and you're dating her for a long time, and you're like a genuinely
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good dude, you will get an attachment to the kid.
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If you're like, you know, helping take care of the kid or whatever, if the kid is starting
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to view you as the father figure, and you're helping take care of him, if that relationship
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ends, you have, like, you know, you're going to not only be kind of sad about the end of
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the relationship, but also there's this kid that you've built a bond with, and when you're
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just, you're not the bio dad, you'd have no rights there.
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I'm not saying that a guy should if he's not the bio dad, but what I'm saying is, it's
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sort of like a double breakup in a way, like, you've, in the same way if they had like a
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dog or something, and you got really attached to the dog, and you really liked their dog
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or something, yeah, I don't know if any of you have dated, and you're looking at me
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No, but like, if you had a partner, and they had a dog, it was their dog, clearly, and it's
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kind of like, you really like the dog, you know, you really like the dog, and then, oh,
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you break up, okay, you never see the dog again, you know, so.
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Can I say too, I will say, I'm, so I'm from Nevada, but in the state of Nevada, and I'm
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not sure the exact like timeline, but if you are with a pregnant woman, and the child is
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not yours, and you're there with her when she gives labor, and you're with her for six
02:19:59.400
months after the child is born, you legally become the, like, in like some sort of legal
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situation, you become the father in the legal stance.
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Like, I, yeah, but it's a custody thing, it's a custody thing.
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And don't quote me on the timing, don't quote me on the like the right thing, but like my
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mom is like CPS, she told me about this stuff, but yeah, if you're with a woman, and she's
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having a child, you're with her when she has the child, and you stay with her six months
02:20:33.240
after the child, and the father is not in the picture, you're now in the picture, and
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So when you leave, you're still legally responsible for those, that child's support.
02:20:48.800
Really quick, just around the panel, would you guys date, you get, most of you are pretty
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young here, so I mean, would you date a guy who has a kid?
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When you could date, I mean, I don't think any of you would have trouble finding a guy
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who doesn't have that sort of, sorry to say, this baggage, would you, you can find very
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Seeing that I have a boyfriend, I don't really, I'm just gonna, okay.
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Let's say you're, if you were single before your boyfriend.
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I would say, I mean, it also depends on my age, but right now, no, maybe later on, it
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Last super chat here, MD with the Mexican pesos, apparently.
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Sorry, dude, I don't know what you're talking about.
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So, I think, here's the thing, is like, if you asked a lot of men also in your life,
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like, or if you asked a guy who you were dating, I think a lot of guys are not like,
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Most guys would be like, nah, baby, I don't care.
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But I think, like, deep down, men would have an issue with someone who has a high body
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There are guys who are cucks who probably invite.
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But I'd say the vast majority of men, and probably the majority of men that you're attracted
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to, are going to have an issue if you have a promiscuous past.
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So, the thing is, men cannot truly be honest with their thoughts because it kind of goes
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I think if men were honest with how they thought, you know, their dating preferences, it would
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almost certainly is met with contempt, reprisal, disdain, mockery, shaming language.
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I mean, we did the small penis thing, small dick.
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Like, you know, accusations of being an incel, insecure, toxic, misogynist, small dick, patriarchy,
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So, you know, I think women are entitled to their preferences, standards, and boundaries.
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I think men are entitled to their preferences, standards, and boundaries.
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I think the preferences, standards, and boundaries that men have are different than those that
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I don't think that there's a symmetry in what people find attractive and what people want
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Just want to see real quick if we have any final Super Chats.
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Okay, so thank you for tuning in tonight, guys.
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It was a very, I think it was a good little discussion.
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I really appreciate you guys coming on and giving your insights into everything.
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So, yeah, thank you again, guys, for tuning in.
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