Dating Talk #8
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Length
2 hours and 15 minutes
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174.60716
Summary
In this episode, we introduce ourselves, introduce our guests, and talk about the plot synopsis of Into the Microwave. We also talk about our first 3v3 episode featuring 3 guys, 3 girls, 3 trios.
Transcript
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from Ila Vista, Santa Barbara County, California.
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A few quick announcements before the show begins.
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Next week, we are going to do our first 3v3 show.
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I will read, answer super chats intermittently, $10 and up.
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All super chats will be displayed in stream overlay.
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I think YouTube is having a promo, I believe, 50% off.
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So we will show you as a supporter in stream overlay
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as you get a very cool icon next to your username.
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We are live there right now, twitch.tv slash whatever.
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If you have Amazon Prime, you can link it to a Twitch account.
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And every month, you can sub to us totally free on Twitch.
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we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.
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So please, tell us your name, age, occupation, or school.
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Do you identify as a feminist, if you want to share.
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I'm studying acting, trying to get into the acting major.
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I am a software quality analyst for video games.
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It's going to take up the whole chat for the rest of the show.
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And yes, I'm dressed like Faye Valentine from Cowboy Bebop.
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But I do have a lot of Cowboy Bebop merch in my house.
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So when you say you're single, what does that mean?
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Um, uh, my really serious boyfriend moved to Italy for work and we decided not to stay
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together because we don't live in a Hallmark movie.
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Um, uh, I'm seeing a professional game player right now.
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I am because I'm not going to move to Italy for four years.
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I actually don't think I've ever had that conversation.
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I'm just like, we're, we're in a relationship now.
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I, when I say sleep, I mean it in the, uh, biblical sense.
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Are you currently having penet, penetrative sex with someone?
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Well, if we're going biblical, who's getting penetrated?
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And you said you're currently seeing multiple people.
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I went on like four first dates in the last, yeah, like four first dates in the last couple
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A guy I was seeing who I thought was cute told me he just wanted to be friends.
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And so I was like, okay, I need, I need attention.
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One of them, one of them passed the, uh, test of not being incredibly weird or boring.
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One of them asked me for feet pics within 10 minutes of me leaving the date.
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If he had paid, you would have thought about it?
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Uh, one of them lied about his age by 15 years.
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Uh, and one of them, my phone broke for a couple of days and he texted me, hey, 18 times
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By the way, thank you for, Gabby's a return, return visitor.
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Like people who saw the show and then they DMed you?
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That first person you interviewed followed me today.
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I didn't watch the podcast, but yeah, um, he just followed me.
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He reached out, but no, I'm as single as it gets.
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I'm not talking, texting, snapping anybody at the moment.
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Um, I mean, kind of just by definition, I guess, uh, like I'm seeing someone, but I
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I, I, I'm trying to communicate to Chris some very important information.
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So you're seeing somebody, but it's not official.
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Um, yeah, I'm single, not seeing anyone, not talking to anyone, kind of just doing my
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No, no, I was here last week and I've had like more followers and more DMs or well, I've
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gotten like a few DMs or like people asking about the podcast, but no.
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Um, God, when I first moved for college, so like two years ago, but we actually just
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stopped talking like, like four months ago, five months ago.
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When, and when was the last time that you were, you saw somebody?
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I haven't been like interested in dating really since then.
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I'm still trying to work on some stuff before I put myself back out there.
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Wait, so this was before you started university or?
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Well, like nothing serious, like, you know, nothing I would consider more than like, not
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Isla Vista doesn't have the best dating pool to pick from.
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Mostly just being a college town and especially this college town of all of them.
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It's just like, you know, very hookup based, which is fine.
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Like, but it's just not somewhere that I would like, you know, if, if the love of my life
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is in Isla Vista, I sincerely want the second choice.
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You don't want the love of your life to be in Isla Vista.
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But on the off chance that it is, um, I don't know.
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I think I can, I think I seek higher things for myself.
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What, what is your primary, uh, gripe with the men in this town?
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Well, three, just in the interactions I've had with like my guy friends and like the
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guys I'm around, they can be the sweetest people in the world.
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And then I'll just like hear how they talk about women or hear like, you know, like what
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they do, like put them through and like, you know, how do they talk about women?
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And then just like being disrespectful and just like not treating them well.
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And like my friend today was like, I'm so into this girl.
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And then like, all of a sudden he's like, yeah, she like went up to me at rock fire and
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Like over one interaction, but I don't know if he's watching, but I already told him off
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I think you can, I think you should give him a second chance.
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Wait, he's upset that she talked to another guy.
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No, she, he's upset that she like didn't have like a long interaction.
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And then like left, you know, it wasn't like a conversation.
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Like the way he explained it, she like, she snubbed him basically or.
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I don't, I don't like going to just hook up with random people or none of that.
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Well, not all I care about, but you know what I mean.
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So your long distance relationship, it recently ended.
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So we're just going to wait it out and see how it goes.
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So, uh, first question, first topic of today, who should initiate?
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Who, who does initiate when it comes to dating?
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I've honed in, uh, the drone strike is about to happen.
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I, I've, I can't talk to too many people at once.
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I find it very, very exhausting, which is why I decide after like one date if I'm going
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Um, but like, yeah, I just, I'm like, yeah, you, you seem safe.
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Uh, I'm very often wrong, but I'm getting better at it.
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Um, so since you're bisexual, let's, when it comes to your interactions with other women,
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do you find you're having to initiate or is it kind of split?
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They're pretty and they smell good and they're soft and, uh, I'm, they usually approach me
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first guys usually approach, uh, me first also.
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So I guess I'm never, I pick people, but I'm never the one initiating.
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Uh, because I'm scared to talk to anyone ever, which I know sounds weird considering I'm
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So then you don't initiate when it comes to dating.
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Like, like on like apps, like if I want to talk to you, I will definitely be the first
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If I'm at a bar, I will hide fully, uh, until someone approaches me and then I'll probably
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Um, I don't really think it should be pinpointed to either a girl or a guy should, I feel like
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I feel like both parties should understand, be able to understand like social cues and
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And once you're both on board with it, I feel like it's just up for grabs for anyone to
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Of the dating experiences, relationships that you've had, who would you say initiated more
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It's just because I've, I'll admit like I'm not the most confident.
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And I guess that kind of encompasses the reason why you don't initiate, you think, you
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I mean, for me particularly, I think it's, it kind of, I initiate if I see someone and
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If I want that, I'm going to go try and get it.
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But if it's a situation where like, I don't notice you and you initiate it, then it's more
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But I definitely like, it's more for me seeing something I want.
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And then that's when I'll like go talk to someone.
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But a lot, that's kind of rare and far in between.
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So a lot of times it's people initiating it towards me.
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Have you ever initiated anything with a customer at the strip club?
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It's more that the people who come into the strip club are not people you're trying to
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Um, yeah, I mean, I kind of agree with what she said.
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It's more so like, I don't think it should be pinpointed to either like the guys have to
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Personally, I like to make the first move and I'm comfortable with going up and like shooting
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But like she said, like if you see something that you want, then go for it.
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But then if you don't like notice this person and they go up and then you start a conversation,
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Um, but I think it's more fun when I initiate it.
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Um, personally, I don't think I really initiate that often.
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I'm like pretty shy when it comes to those things.
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I'm also like just, I guess it doesn't work either way for me because I'm bad at initiating
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because I'm too shy and like I don't want to deal with that.
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But then when someone initiates with me, I'm like the worst at reading signals and like
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obvious flirting will literally go straight over my head.
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And I'll just be like, oh, like what a fun buddy.
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Can you give us an example of a time where a guy gave you an obvious signal and it just
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Um, uh, pretty recently I was like, oh, like my good like friend is like texting me again.
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Like, oh, I wonder if they want to hang out with all of us.
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But now they, yeah, they just wanted to hook up.
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I had to like ask my roommates and I'm like, look, like they've been texting me.
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They're like, oh, like probably thinks you're cute.
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Um, I feel like I have initiated my fair share.
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Um, I also think that in general, just the way that I am, I want a man to come up to me and
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And like, I don't, who, who would I be to go up to him and be like, you're so handsome.
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So you want it to be done to you, but you would not go out and do it.
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If he's the most gorgeous man I've ever seen in my life, I am going to go up to him and never
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But other men, I feel like I'm just, you know, whatever.
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Of course, there's always the initial attraction.
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So I do see people and I'm like, oh, that's someone that I would want.
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I don't think I've ever really been with someone because of their personality.
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Like, obviously the guys that I choose to be with have a good personality as well as
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looks, but I haven't like fallen in love with someone's personality and just completely
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And we're going to go around the table with this question.
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So I had a friend who, she introduced me to this guy and she like kind of had a crush
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But it was one of those things that wasn't serious.
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And before I ever talked to him or did anything, I made sure it was okay with her.
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She liked him, but there was no mutual interest.
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And so I was like, is it okay that I talked to him?
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And so I was the first one to text him and I saw him at a football game.
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I saw him at a football game and decided to go up to him and just start talking to him.
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But I didn't really like flirt or anything until he did it back.
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I wanted to know that he felt the same way without like making a fool of myself and being
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And was that the only time that you had pursued somebody?
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I feel like once someone, I want to say the us pursuing each other always goes both ways.
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I feel like it's like we, a guy will say that I'm cute or something and then I'll be
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But I feel like it almost always starts with a guy.
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And if so, what specifically did you do to pursue him?
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Hey Chris, can you get some champagne by the way?
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But I feel like I kind of did it in like, like a crazy way.
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You know, like I wouldn't let them know I'm pursuing them, but it'd be like subconscious
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Like, oh, I know he hangs out with these people that I'm friends with.
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I'm going to make sure to invite them over to my house tonight.
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But I feel like guys don't get complimented enough.
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Like I kind of disagree with you with the ego boosting thing.
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I don't think guys get as many compliments as women do.
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So when you say like the littlest little compliment to them, it like makes their day.
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So like even if like one of my friends like gets a haircut, be like, oh, like haircut.
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So I remember I was at the gym and I saw this guy.
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This actually like expensive microphones, please.
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I mean, it's more so like a celebratory thing for me and Mike Davis, but I need to see IDs.
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We were talking about, have you ever pursued a guy?
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I guess the most recent situation was about a month or two ago.
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I was at the gym, and this guy walks in and, like, completely turned my head.
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And I was out at the bar, like, Rockfire, like, later that night, and I saw him, and I
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I was like, hey, I think you're really handsome.
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I was, like, kind of proud of myself for being, like, that brave because that, like, takes
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We, like, we texted, like, for a little bit, and we're supposed to go on a date.
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I ended up not responding because I didn't see the message, and now I kind of, like,
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it's like a work situation now, so I can't make a move.
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Articulate specifically what you did to pursue him.
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So, the guy I'm actually seeing right now, I kind of pursued.
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He's a go-go dancer at Wildcat, the shitty kitty.
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And I remember, like, I remember I had, like, seen him before.
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But they were hosting, the drag queens were having a audience participation show.
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And my friend, we were celebrating her graduation.
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And I was, and lo and behold, this guy who I've seen around town who I have a crush on
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And I was like, this is very Pride and Prejudice.
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And he was like, I actually got to get back to work.
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And I was like, will you have a great night, handsome?
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Gave him, like, a kiss on the cheek and then walked away.
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And then ended up seeing him again later that week and started talking.
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And this is the guy that you're currently seeing?
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What is, like, what is, like, the most you've ever done that could be kind of considered
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No, the thing is, like, guys will pursue me first.
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And then it always ends up switching to me pursuing them.
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After you dropped all your hoes, is that what happens?
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Like, if I'm talking to someone, I will, like, only talk to them.
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So you think it's a situation where the guys are losing interest?
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And then you're like, you want to keep it going?
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Every time they lose interest, I'm the one that's like.
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Then you're the one always hitting them up to hang out.
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Actually, specifically because of what she said, every long-term relationship I've ever
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Except for one time where I went to a swingers party and ended up dating a couple in Simi Valley.
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I got set up on a date, so I went to a swingers party.
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And then I ended up going home and living with a couple in Simi Valley.
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And then they had a tinier house behind their big house.
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At swingers parties, isn't it just a bunch of couples or just a bunch of people and they
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I did not do this at the party, but there was, again, like I just was already all dressed
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And then swingers parties ended up, for some reason, high on my list.
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There are rooms where you can do that privately.
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It's not like an orgy where everyone's just like about with their bits aflutter in the wind.
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Like a lot of people there actually don't want to just get right into it.
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A dude, a rich dude in Simi Valley was paying me to date his wife.
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So, thanks, asshole in Simi Valley, for paying me to date your wife that you
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couldn't stand, even though she's a lovely person.
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Let's, we're going to just read a couple super chats that we got here.
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Stifler, ask the ladies to rate themselves on a scale of one to ten.
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Wait, that, that's not what you gave yourself last time.
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I don't think you rate, well, what do you rate yourself?
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Believe it or not, I do look better when I'm not dressed like this.
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I'm going to give myself a solid four and a half.
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Okay, so every, y'all tens, well, you were, you had some, seven and a half to eight.
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If it's like guard dog status, he's really not a ten.
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So don't you think it's a bit of hubris to rank yourself as a ten?
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So Brad Pitt is a ten and Danny DeVito is also a ten.
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Do you guys, everyone know who Danny DeVito is?
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Physically, strictly, physically speaking, what do you rate him?
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And I think objectively, we're young, hot, in our 20s.
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If you lined up a hundred men, and they weren't trying to sleep with you, and they could run
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away after they gave you their answer, what do you think, you know, if you averaged it
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out, those hundred men would rate you, on a scale of one to ten, looks-wise?
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Let's just say it's, let's just say the hundred men, it's a cross-section of various backgrounds
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and nationalities and even sexual orientations.
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Because if they're saying it to our face, I have a very mean death glare.
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Okay, they're, you're behind bulletproof glass, and they have five, they have a five-minute
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Or what, what would the guys, what would the guys rate you?
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I know you don't like that answer, but like, like I don't really care personally, but.
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Answering this would require me to care what men think.
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American Network against labiaplasty, outies over inies, hashtag all labia matter.
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That's my nonprofit organization that left that comment.
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Well, the first question was, does size matter?
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So, at the very end, I was like, we got to do it for women, too.
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Brian is the type of guy to only hold hands on the first ten dates with a girl.
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I'm basically in the ground compared to the rest of this panel.
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So, Mike Davis, we poured in a little champagne.
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Brian, you better put some booze in those cups.
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This pack of females are talking like politicians.
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We're also celebrating my massive lawsuit victory.
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Can you be the first one to do a channel membership?
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And then we'll highlight you whenever you become a member.
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And then when you chat, you get a cool icon next to your name.
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So, Mike, we're going to be looking out for that.
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Glad you're bringing back the delusional segment again.
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Mike, if you don't remember what I said last podcast, you can Venmo me.
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If he starts moving around, I'll let him pop his little head up.
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And the Vice Accountability Group, Gabby is a solid 10.
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I run a little support group, weekly support group.
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It's basically for, like, just a safe space for talks on mental health,
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overindulgence, better coping mechanisms, and healthy living habits.
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But it's really just a safe, non-judgmental space to come and share.
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And it's for, it's kind of like Naranon, or what's that called?
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We do have, like, people who come, and, you know, like,
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I've struggled with alcoholism, so, like, that's part of my struggle,
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But some people come there to work on their lateness,
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and some people come there to work on fentanyl,
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and some people come there to work on love and sex addiction.
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It's really just an open, safe space for anybody.
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I mean, I guess if, but if you view yourself as a ten, then you're just...
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Sure, but to answer the question, I guess, for the rest of the panel,
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I mean, where, you can't really improve from there.
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It's like where, like, I'm my own ten because at the end of the day, like, I go home with
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So, like, that's what I think of me, and it took me a while to get there, to where I'm
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Like, I definitely didn't have this kind of confidence when I was younger.
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But wouldn't it also be confident to have some, like, be self-aware and be like, here's
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a reasonable and fair self-assessment of my appearance?
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And I can still, like, I'm still improving every day.
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Like, you know, like, still in the gym, still working on myself, still growing as a person,
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And I think it's, for men, they want women to be humble kind of thing.
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It's just, like, instilled in society that we're, like, not supposed to think of ourselves
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as tens because we're supposed to, you know, be reasonable and have, like, this other number.
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But, I mean, if we want to be a ten, like, why not?
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And if you walk around with a ton of confidence, like, who's going to tell you different?
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Like, you could be the prettiest girl in the world, and somebody will still call you
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Nobody knows if you have it or not, so you might as well fake it until you make it.
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You get more places with faking confidence than you do without it.
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I suppose the issue becomes, if you believe you're a ten, then when it comes to your dating
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prospects, certainly you believe you deserve a ten.
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So, then, are your expectations for a partner higher than what you could realistically land?
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For example, a guy who lives at his house, who plays video games all day, who doesn't
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have a job, who smokes weed, all he's doing, he's just playing video games, he's kind of
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And if he says, I want a Victoria's Secret model, or I want, you know, he's not going
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But I think he knows he's not a ten kind of thing, because it's also, it has to do
00:46:25.140
with a lot of, like, I think your mental health and, like, your confidence, as we were saying.
00:46:28.940
Like, the people who are, like, living that kind of life, I don't think they're sitting
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in their room with a bunch of happy thoughts, wanting to spread, like, joy and love and work
00:46:38.640
They want to stay in their bubble of negativity, and that's what drags down their number, because
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They don't see themselves as a ten, and that's why they want to project it out onto the world.
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But at the end of the day, I think, like, if we're a ten, we're, like, we're pretty girls
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who go out in the world confidently, and we're working on ourselves every single day,
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We're looking for other people who are trying to grow and be better and work on themselves
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just as well, and that's the energy that we're going to be attracted to.
00:47:08.980
So we're going to see people as a ten, even if they're not a ten, because we see the
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And everyone has their specific type, and that could be someone's type, you know?
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Like, that's not my type, but that could be somebody's.
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Like she said, like, everyone's a ten in somebody's eyes.
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Like, there's people, to me, like, I don't need a solid ten, honestly.
00:47:44.280
What are we doing over there with your McDonald's toy?
00:47:46.440
Anyone I choose to be with who I, like, see myself staying with forever is a tent to me,
00:48:00.600
Also, when you're, like, super into someone, I feel like they get more attractive in your
00:48:19.240
I got my scouter on, but we're going to ask the chat.
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Just waiting on the chat, getting a little bit of the chat coming in.
00:49:59.980
So I feel like, we'll go out tonight by our own drinks.
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I was going to say, it's good that we're going out tonight, then.
00:50:18.920
I was going to say, maybe like a Kentucky farmer, but like...
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It makes no difference how you feel or what you convince yourself
00:50:52.840
I mean, his thumbnail's a bit on the smaller side, maybe.
00:51:21.480
Why don't we, Chris, just highlight a few of them.
00:51:42.740
Maybe we need a couple people to do a couple spins.
00:52:04.100
So we're going to go back to the topic of initiative.
00:52:08.840
So we sort of talk a little bit about during the initial phases.
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You know, like, I don't want him to be like, ugh.
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Do you think that would happen if you went for the first kiss?
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And then that's why I just decided to remove myself from any situation that that would...
00:53:09.120
You know, I don't ever want him to be like, that bitch tried to kiss me.
00:53:22.440
Because then he's going to be like, that bitch had the balls versus any other bitch.
00:53:43.600
He's not going to be like, oh my God, she tried to kiss me.
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But like, I feel like sometimes a man has tried to kiss me, even one that I've been
00:54:00.480
Wait, so a guy who you're interested in has tried to kiss you, and you...
00:54:22.820
A kiss is a reward that a woman gives to a man.
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So, what, what would be a scenario in which you feel a guy would be deserving of being
00:54:59.040
So, you only kiss men that you're in love with?
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Like, okay, or I can see myself loving them, I think is a better way to put it.
00:55:12.880
Like, if I'm like, oh, I want to date this person, I want to be with this person, whatever,
00:55:16.880
then I think that maybe I should kiss them, but if it's some random guy at a club, no.
00:55:34.400
I mean, that was when I was, like, in high school, mainly, and so I feel like now I'm at...
00:55:50.660
In high school, I felt like I was really trying to grab male attention and try to be, like,
00:55:55.460
the hottest girl in the room, and, like, I wanted to go up to them and be flirty and
00:56:02.400
The right person will just come to me, so I don't need...
00:56:18.180
Like, I, like, before, like, back in high school, I would always just, like, wait for
00:56:22.060
someone to kiss me, but then, like, this one time, this guy was, like, going in for the
00:56:25.600
kiss and, like, straight punched me in the face.
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And literally ever since then, I have gone for the first kiss.
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Like, he was trying to, like, put his arm, like, around me.
00:56:43.800
Ever since then, I literally just went for the first kiss, and, like, that was actually mortifying.
00:56:46.740
I never want that to happen again in my life, so I'll just, like, I'll do it.
00:56:55.140
The first guy, when I moved out here that I was seeing, we were, like, hanging out for,
00:57:00.100
like, a while, and we still didn't kiss, and then we were, like, I was, like, are you
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So, how many times had you guys been hanging out?
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Now that I think about it, like, our first time hanging out, like, hung out all night.
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i liked how i liked how slow no honestly because like with my yeah honestly like you would not
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have kissed him the first night i mean if it was right maybe but like i liked how slow things were
00:57:45.520
going because like in my past i've gotten it like guys either were just wanting like physical stuff
00:57:50.520
or like moving in and so quick or something but i liked how like slow it was going but then like
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after by like the fourth date i was the fourth like time hangout it's like kind of like okay
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like i'm ready for like first kiss like come on let's go yeah so i liked how slow it was in the
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beginning but then you didn't really you kind of went for it but you're like stop being a bitch go
00:58:09.780
for it right he needed a little shove and it worked but why didn't you just you could have gone for it
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right yeah but you kind of you sort of went for it but it was kind of like hey dude you do it a little
00:58:24.760
bit i mean he needed a shove he needed like a little help because he was taking a minute was it starting
00:58:30.080
to become a turn off for you that he wasn't initiating no it was more so like what the hell
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because i knew that we were like that these were dates and that we were like together for a bit but
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i was more so like okay like why is this like taking so long i knew that he wanted to but he just
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didn't so i like he needed some help and i was like all right kiss me so yeah ensley
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um no never kiss the guy first no i do like the eye contact like the conversation lulls and then
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you do eye contact and then it's like can you demonstrate on gabby
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and then yeah then you kiss do you do the triangle what's the triangle oh see when we go out
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tonight i'll show you okay and from this episode of cosmopolitan magazine okay uh gabby have you ever
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i mean no not that i can remember i don't remember initiating the first kiss ever okay yeah so i said
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yes but i think every kiss i've ever had is like first kiss with someone has been like mutual
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like we both initiated and it was understood both initiated yeah like it was
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we well we did the looks we just made eyes at each other until something happened but someone
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kind of has to you know go in first i guess yeah i guess it's me about 50 50 i don't okay and no they
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seem pretty synchrony like synchronized uh just like synchronized swimming but with making out
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on your roommate's couch um like that gotcha so two questions related to that not not your thing
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specifically but is it a deal breaker or turn off if the person tries to kiss you either too soon
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or takes too long like you're like waiting for them to to do it definitely a deal breaker if it takes too
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long like because it starts feeling kind of platonic yeah like if i wanted a friend i'd have a friend
01:00:38.180
sure we're dating so let's sure do dating stuff like kiss and to add to the question also have you
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ever had a situation where a guy just waited too long to make a move even though you were interested
01:00:51.160
in him he just waited too long and then you just lost interest gabby um i don't think it's a deal
01:00:58.500
breaker i really like taking things slow so for me that just it's the turn on actually i don't like
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when guys are trying to move into things too fast so if a guy the first time hanging out just tried to
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kiss you that is that too fast it's not like a turn off but yeah so you like to take things slow yeah
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what do you mean like i'm not gonna hook up with you the first week hi chris oh there we go
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hold on i got something for you chris that's a fucking 50 dkp minus what the fuck was that shit
01:01:33.040
i like taking things slow don't do that shit chris okay you like taking taking things slow okay
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hensley i get bored very fast and i also like not to be one of those chicks where it's like all my
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friends are guys but like if you don't kiss me on the first date you're homeboyed very quickly
01:01:52.800
so first date they have to kiss you if the date goes well yeah absolutely if they don't it's that's
01:02:00.520
then it's done it's done so all right cool has there ever been a circumstance though where he
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it just like the circumstances it just didn't happen and even then done so or you're like i can't
01:02:14.080
imagine a circumstance not once popping into my head like it hasn't happened yet it hasn't happened
01:02:20.020
yet you're like hey i got it i gotta go or he's gotta go i get bored so fast it's no all right make
01:02:26.860
your moves quick guys um it's kind of a turn off if he does it too fast like 15 minutes into the day
01:02:36.040
where he like goes in for a kiss i was just like no like that's a bit of a turn off um too slow
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for me isn't bad i kind of like taking things slow when it comes to like building a relationship
01:02:46.780
i like that but like four dates and to kiss like to kiss me that's a bit much but yeah like first
01:02:53.380
date if it's like a kiss on the cheek good night or like a peck if it's like going well yeah but like
01:02:57.040
not like full-blown like make out session um i feel like i agree with like four dates would be a
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little much but like anything before that just kind of like adds to the chase so i feel like it's a lot
01:03:08.920
more fun uh we we have a new bitch oh it's a male dog my bad um we have a new dog in the studio
01:03:26.140
dog dating is super easy so i feel like there's not yeah they fuck okay kayla
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or wait christy sorry did you answer the question yeah like four dates would be like a little much
01:03:41.080
but anything before that like the chase is fun um i also like to take things slow so i think it's sweet
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when a guy is i would take it as he's being shy or something like that i think that's sweet
01:03:54.000
and i'm kind of the same way so yeah i feel like if i really really liked the person no amount of time
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could be like a deal breaker i would probably ask though like do you just see me as a friend
01:04:06.600
if he was taking too long yeah okay got it so i want to propose to the not not that kind of propose
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so i'm gonna paint a scenario here for you guys and i want you to tell me if that would be kind of
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exciting for you you'd be like no no no no no so let's say you're going on a date with a guy
01:04:28.180
first date and you haven't kissed him yet like maybe you met somewhere but he just got your
01:04:35.020
number whatever maybe dating app dm whatever it may be the very so okay you're on the first date
01:04:42.520
you're walking up you're meeting each other walking up towards each other the very first
01:04:49.160
thing he says is hey so would you be down to just get the whole first kiss thing out of the way right
01:04:54.760
now what would you think of that would you go for it or what could he redeem himself after that or
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i think he could redeem himself and say it was like a joke but you wouldn't you wouldn't go for
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it because that's kind of kind of ballsy not gonna lie it's kind of cute yeah i like that i think i'd go
01:05:12.420
for it i i kind of fuck with that like if it's like if we have like a strong texting street the vibes
01:05:17.760
are like they're over text message like we had a connection when we got each other's number
01:05:21.600
and then like we walk up she's like hey do you like i i kind of like that i haven't gotten that
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before but i kind of like that it's kind of ballsy right it is i kind of like we're gonna have so
01:05:30.960
many things to try to do so i definitely go for that yeah i would like it yeah and like she said
01:05:38.820
if there was a texting streak before absolutely but if there wasn't like if this is kind of like
01:05:42.520
your first time meeting the person y'all could kiss and if they were a bad kisser then you could be
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like yeah thanks for that i'm good i'm gonna peace out thank you so much i'm glad we got that out of
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the way it's called being fiscally responsible gabby i don't think i would like it if the guy first
01:05:59.800
thing no yeah because imagine how many other first dates he's tried that on so yeah it would just make
01:06:05.700
me feel kind of not special yeah okay it would you'd feel not special yes okay
01:06:14.920
um yeah okay we've got some figured out oh he's limping he's got a little limp he'll get over it
01:06:25.740
he's kind of a drama queen all right sorry guys we got we got dogs in the studio here
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so i shouldn't have revealed that's my i've had that in the arsenal for a little bit um
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so now all the guys might try that i've tried it as an experiment how to go i've tried it only two
01:06:50.520
times it worked once the other time didn't work what happened what'd she say when you tried that
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yeah but did you go on the date no we continued hanging out i mean i wasn't i didn't push it it
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was just i was just like oh yeah i'm just joking
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what was her response when you said it though i'm kind of curious like what what would she say
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yeah uh and i you know i moved on really quick but uh you recovered yeah it was a recovery there
01:07:20.680
was a recovery i was just like no i didn't say okay so i didn't say i was joking i think i just said
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oh yeah i figured i'd just give the shot you know but it's cool anyways how's your day going just
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move on to something else but uh yeah guys try it out that's that's some gangster shit guys
01:07:36.900
it takes some balls though take some balls she'll definitely remember that shit though like no guy
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well some guys might do that but all right try it out guys okay so
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who here is on the dating app just show of hands
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not gabby hensley you all three of you dating app not no dating apps have you ever been on the dating
01:08:00.560
app yeah farmers only um you know i am from texas so that is like the whole dream but no
01:08:08.960
i was on tinder and hinge and i think maybe bumble for like actually three hours
01:08:16.600
bumble's weird bumble is weird wait why is bumble weird just like we have to make the first you have
01:08:24.280
to talk first heaven forbid i i always do but i don't want to have to see i couldn't figure it out
01:08:31.460
that and hinge honestly because tinder you download no yes like that was easy for me and then like
01:08:37.980
bumble was complicated you couldn't figure it out i didn't take the time to i don't care enough
01:08:41.960
honestly like i just and then you know sorry i was always confused if you're bi too because i was
01:08:47.040
like if we're both chicks who asked to do it first on bumble yeah is that kind of confusing bumble
01:08:53.500
like got a lawsuit for that also oh yeah actually they picked which one was more masculine i got a
01:08:58.940
check do it yeah like bumble sent me a check really sent you a check yeah it was only for men because
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men were i don't know there's something discriminatory on bumble against men that the
01:09:08.940
girls have to message first it was like discriminatory i think it was yeah so can we know how much the
01:09:12.780
check was i think it was like 50 bucks or something really yeah what about to change my identity on
01:09:18.200
bumble real quick i'm on the league uh wait so okay bumble's weird because yeah so is hinge i never
01:09:26.000
figured out i wonder how it works with gay men on bumble that's why they don't go elsewhere
01:09:30.840
i feel elsewhere my assumption would be for gay men and for gay women on bumble either one can
01:09:37.640
message first but for a straight couple for if you're straight the woman has to message first so
01:09:45.040
is that why you guys thought was weird because y'all had a message first yeah i mean messaging first is
01:09:52.520
just it sucks like it gave me a little empathy towards guys who have to message first like if they
01:09:57.660
pick up line sucks it'll be such a like you're out of here and then i'm like do my pickup lines suck
01:10:02.320
probably okay so anyone else on why you didn't like bumble you thought it was weird yeah i just think
01:10:11.840
it's weird why it just is you know when you know when certain things just rub you the wrong way
01:10:17.440
no you're gonna have to articulate it for me okay first of all i feel like the crowd on there
01:10:26.520
is just like maybe they got banned from tinder and then they got banned from him that's why i was on
01:10:32.500
bumble and now they're on bumble oh you got banned i got banned from tinder what did you do i think i
01:10:37.320
just got reported a lot for like um trolling no i think like a lot of people thought i was a catfish
01:10:44.260
profile and i got reported did you have your stripper photos on there no i didn't have anything
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like it's because you're a 10 it's because you're yeah i guess it's because you're a 10 but then i use
01:10:54.980
my grandma's phone number and then the same thing happens my grandma is also banned from tinder
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i think they use uh image recognition so if you reuse the same uh photos in your new profile
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it'll ban you again i don't they can also ip ban you i got ip banned on tinder yeah you can get
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your what are you guys doing on tinder jesus no i never mind say it say it why did you get banned
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on christian mingle i was gonna say i disagree because i got banned too and then i used a different
01:11:27.120
phone number and now it works for me so i was gonna agree but i was like no one needs to know
01:11:31.860
that part but we're right there so i found it out you can do it three times before they ip ban you
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because my friend logged in i'm only on number two and right now i'm like i'm good so but it's like
01:11:42.440
photos but maybe it's like more mature photos of me you know like i'm older now i don't know what
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the deal is but i'm playing it safest you definitely should you should just dispute the ban i don't even
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know how i can't figure it out it's very hard their customer service does not respond i've never
01:11:56.680
been banned though okay so bumble y'all have every single one of you been on bumble i just don't
01:12:02.380
like i don't like the user interface that's my main problem it's a graphic design thing sounds like
01:12:07.580
that's cope for having to initiate uh no uh because i always send the first message but again i don't
01:12:12.760
like having to like what if he has a funnier like what if he has a funnier opener what if he
01:12:20.900
shines me and then it comes after mine that's a terrible comedy special
01:12:24.480
so kayla you were on bumble what was your go-to first message since you had a message oh i i never
01:12:32.540
messaged anyone but you were on bumble yeah for like three hours okay then you just deleted it okay
01:12:38.240
yeah i didn't message any because you deleted it because you had to message also i just don't i hate
01:12:45.040
dating apps and so i'll say i break up with someone i'm like whatever i'm gonna get a dating app and then
01:12:51.080
i do and then i'm like uh i didn't want to be on here in the first place have you ever met someone
01:12:57.320
from a dating app christy oh i was just smiling no but have you ever uh met someone off of a dating
01:13:05.680
app well i'm here because of a dating app so yeah great experience so well okay i mean uh romantically
01:13:13.620
um i actually don't think so no i like i don't really use dating apps to actually date around i
01:13:19.940
just kind of like looking what's going on you know so for valid validation not even for validation it's
01:13:26.200
like i don't reply to like half my messages i don't really swipe on anyone i just kind of look at
01:13:30.760
what's going on savage okay interesting who's around curiosity yeah curiosity okay and on you said
01:13:38.860
you were on bumble too uh yeah i'm banned on bumble oh my sis how do you get banned on bumble
01:13:44.080
what are you doing it's a really tough life what are you doing it was like just my venmo and my bio
01:13:51.300
and they don't like that you see how far the termites have spread and how long well they've dined
01:14:00.180
i think you're done yeah i'm not gonna lie if i see if i see a chick's venmo
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on a dating app that's an instant instant report i'm sorry christy you know what it was probably
01:14:15.240
it was probably me i got you banned on bumble i saw you not only did you have your venmo you
01:14:23.180
you had your only fans also you had your only fans linked and had to report you yeah because
01:14:30.560
you're trying you're trying to get these simps okay sydney you were on bumble why didn't you like
01:14:35.740
it i was on it for like two days and i i couldn't figure it out well so i was like i don't like this
01:14:40.920
app but i've also been like i don't know i didn't like it and then i found out that i've been cheated
01:14:47.500
on via bumble so i was like i really don't like this app because i just can't i don't know it
01:14:53.100
takes i'm not a fan of it i've never dm'd anybody on bumble first it was just irritating for me so i
01:14:58.000
just didn't do it why didn't you message anybody on bumble just i i just didn't i guess i like had
01:15:04.320
it for a few days i wasn't on it much i like swiped a few times i just wasn't interested but i've had i
01:15:09.900
have tinder like i've had really good experiences with tinder i'm out in santa barbara because of tinder
01:15:15.700
so yeah bumble's an interesting one yeah i'm not a fan but you can do it like friend you can like
01:15:22.820
switch it to like friends so when i had it that's why i did it i didn't switch it to romantic i did
01:15:27.820
it for friends which sounds pathetic but no make friends well because it was i was new out here i
01:15:33.200
didn't have any girlfriends so i was like fuck it it's impossible to make friends as an adult you have
01:15:38.200
to go outside which we haven't been allowed to do for three years so i'll give my take really quick
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on bumble so did you get banned too um did i i don't know i know i got i got banned from tinder
01:15:53.460
because i did a experiment on there and i ended up matching with like the vp of something at tinder
01:16:01.380
and uh yeah they banned me um hey no no bull spit thank you for becoming i think that might
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chris is that our first ever member mike davis you're leaving our first member mike davis you're
01:16:15.000
breaking my heart hey man thank you hold on let me do i'll do super chats really quick
01:16:18.740
um uh let's see here hold on okay i'm gonna read this mike davis uh go full screen chris mike davis
01:16:29.440
uh or sorry why thank you for the 20 super chat man really appreciate it i got to sign out give this
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20 to the girl who keeps begging for venmo i love i like helping the less fortunate i will never send
01:16:43.800
a young girl i ain't trying to catch a case peace who is that because a few of is that that's you
01:16:50.420
yeah because i was on here last time and i was like hey if you want to keep like roasting people
01:16:54.780
just venmo me oh yeah mike davis before you leave become a become a member um we need you as part of
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these mike we need you as part of the uh whatever warriors so uh thanks man thank you for the 20
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dollar soup chat let's see here we also got uh new bull spit became a member thank you man appreciate
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hey chris can you boost the computer volume to 60 yes it's the keyboard yes i'm oh it's already at
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oh put it to 70 okay um thank you no bull spit for becoming a member uh i don't i'm not sure what tier
01:17:42.340
you joined at but uh yeah appreciate it man and let me i while i have it here let me get your super
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chat no bull spit with the 10 super chat hey man thank you for the support much appreciated how long
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in a relationship does one pass gas in front of their partner and why do girls try so hard to hide
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farting and going number two in front of their partner okay really quick let's go around the panel
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say i don't hide these things i have ibs um like sorry that's it like um uh if you don't want to
01:18:18.800
love my ulcerative colitis as much as i hate it then that's going to be a problem but also everyone
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on the microphone please microphone about it microphone closer to the mic oh yeah no everyone
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i've dated has been weirdly okay with it more okay than i am with it so claps to them okay gabby
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i've never been in a relationship so i don't really know never wait never been in a relationship i've
01:18:43.000
never had a boyfriend no so i couldn't really answer this question but i have been like on and off with
01:18:49.520
somebody for like the past three years you've been on and off what i was why and why was he
01:18:56.120
consistently breaking up with you i don't know i mean i feel like the most the best answer is he
01:19:03.900
was a frat guy so oh yeah that explains it all he was a frat guy what frat no i cannot say say the
01:19:12.520
frat no but we there's so many guys and it just are you in a sorority no no okay there's so many
01:19:18.500
guys in frats just like to this even though we've been or we had been i i have no contact with him
01:19:27.960
at all anymore but to this day like even though i had known i had known him for three years i would
01:19:32.680
not what was the question fart or pass gas in front of him at all even though i've known him for
01:19:38.840
that long since freshman year hensley real quick on this one um there has to be an accidental slip
01:19:45.060
first and then once that bridge is broken then it's free range good answer sydney yeah i kind
01:19:52.760
of agree with you i've never had that issue i mean i've never been in like a really like serious
01:19:57.440
long-term relationship so yeah i don't really have yeah i mean once you're comfortable enough with
01:20:03.840
them i feel like just like whenever it slips up just like well it's out of the way now so
01:20:08.200
yeah i guess yeah i can see it by that okay no bull spit thank you for that
01:20:17.480
very intriguing question we got mike oh no mike we already got this one from mike davis
01:20:25.360
and then i don't know if we got this one mike davis with the five dollar soup chat i'm
01:20:30.020
maybe a four my mental game is strong i get girls with game and earning dough most women are a
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asexual they're married to the money i do love sectionals i think it's a great house
01:20:44.260
asexual i'm not sure what that means unless you meant asexual okay well mike davis thank you man
01:20:51.580
much appreciated mike i hope we hope to see you next time man thank you for tuning in mike davis
01:20:56.360
okay so where were we we were talking about bumble did i get my take i did not get my take on bumble
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okay bumble uh yeah the girl message is first and uh even though the woman has to message first on
01:21:10.320
bumble overwhelmingly y'all just say hi y'all can't even the one app the one dating app where you can
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it's the power is in your hands y'all can't even muster
01:21:25.900
some clever shit i'm just saying that y'all just say hi hi how's it going
01:21:32.080
but hey you know i had a really good one what did you say my my one would always be what is the best
01:21:40.440
form of potato and you could rate their questions because if they said french fry they're basic but
01:21:46.600
if they said something super extravagant like a twice big potato with this and that and that
01:21:52.020
they're too much the correct answer is tater tots or hash browns yeah word okay so
01:22:00.240
all right that's a that was a good one thanks i'm sure that got you plenty of guys
01:22:07.700
they they were interested in it america likes potatoes it should be more of a pickup line
01:22:13.280
bring back the potato pickup lines but yeah so what i've noticed on on bumble is
01:22:19.080
there are some girls that would when i was on it they would read my profile comment on something
01:22:27.280
do something a bit creative but like 95 of the messages were just
01:22:30.820
hi and i've heard a complaint from women on tinder if a guy just says hi
01:22:35.780
it's not very good it's not not great um i think it's a low likelihood of response
01:22:44.140
if a guy just says hi so when the tables are turned y'all fucking up okay so uh do you respond
01:22:53.260
to the highs though when someone says yeah i'll still respond because i'm a i mean here's the thing
01:22:58.280
like yes i do because that's what you gotta work with what you get you know so uh i still would respond
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but uh it the idea for the app is kind of funny because it's so token because it's all like oh
01:23:21.200
let's let's empower women let's let's give them they they can do it but like my experience on bumble
01:23:29.400
was they say hi and then they're immediately passing to you the conversational burden so it's just like a
01:23:37.360
it's just a totally token thing so that's been my experience they say hi and then you have to
01:23:44.300
you have to carry the conversation from there so uh that's been my experience anyways not all the
01:23:50.780
time there's definitely some girls that they can bring it but a lot of time they say hi and then
01:23:55.560
they expect you to do the typical you have to be the one who's clever and you know saying all the
01:24:00.780
shit at you know and then you have to ask them out i don't think i've ever had an experience where
01:24:05.800
they might say hi but they're not going to ask for my number they're not going to set up a date
01:24:19.940
well i think people say hi a lot on these apps because it's like these are very physical based
01:24:27.360
apps you know it's like so the high is just an extension of their profile photo you know
01:24:31.140
it's like they're not really saying much because they just want you to look at their photograph
01:24:34.580
anyways and then nod or disagree with it i got something to say about that i always try to open
01:24:42.760
with like something to do with like whatever's in their bio or pictures yeah uh my ex who moved to
01:24:50.340
italy for work like he had uh a picture of a warhammer 40k figure in place of the pot from
01:24:57.600
like the pottery scene in ghost and i thought that was hilarious um no one else will but um
01:25:04.060
like that's why i mentioned him and i mentioned it in my first message to him like i try to relate
01:25:09.180
to something just to show that like hey i actually looked at what you wrote and also put on your profile
01:25:17.900
um not going to mention the fact that you're 6'4 at deadlift god i hope he doesn't watch this
01:25:24.780
um but like i always try to put an effort in just because they are very physical apps i know 90%
01:25:33.580
of these guys i match with are not looking at a single thing i write uh and i want to make sure
01:25:42.000
they are and occasionally i'll drop in a little quiz you quit you quiz them uh yeah i'll like mention
01:25:48.680
something that wasn't in my bio like i'll be like oh like i said in my bio like this and they'll be
01:25:54.220
like oh yeah huh and then like try to like write a paragraph playing off of that and i'll be like i
01:25:58.020
never wrote that i got you you're in jail and i just it fizzles out from there okay all right so
01:26:08.160
just going back around really quick coming back to initiative do you prefer it when the guy initiates
01:26:17.000
or would you rather initiate kayla i prefer when the guy does yeah like and overall yeah the guy
01:26:25.080
i think it's more attractive when he does but i think it's more fun when i do
01:26:29.460
i like to allure to it but it's more fun when the guy makes that first physical move
01:26:36.860
the guy for sure i'm just so clueless i need them to give me a clear sign
01:26:42.020
i did see something too that one of my girlfriends told me was um like how they always say like oh
01:26:50.140
like she wears the pants but it's like she sews the pants and he wears them wait what essentially
01:26:56.160
like what kind of like so like girls will like put out those first few signs and then making the
01:27:02.280
guy think that he made the first move like that's what i did with an ex of mine i would like put out
01:27:07.120
those first few signs he's like oh okay and then he shot the shot so he thinks that he like made the
01:27:11.980
first move so like i sewed the pants but he wears them type of thing you know yeah that's kind of what
01:27:17.800
i was like you know if you see someone at a club you can give vibes like i know guys like
01:27:22.500
i would like to be like oh you expect to just know off a look or something but
01:27:26.640
like you know the look like you can like you pass by you're like oh i'm so sorry i touched their
01:27:31.020
shoulder absolutely love that but like something like that and then they're just like oh okay like
01:27:36.180
i saw her like let me go and it's just like no like we saw you first like okay you know so why do
01:27:42.480
you prefer that the guy take initiative well going back to what i said before i sometimes feel weird
01:27:50.560
doing stuff like that like i feel like an odd person
01:27:53.720
i'm just clueless and i can't take hints so it's good self-awareness i think it's attractive when
01:28:03.440
he kind of goes for it i don't like reaching for details kind of like i don't want to ask for your
01:28:10.960
number i don't want to like get all your information i want you to want to get that from me
01:28:15.940
agree with her it's more attractive and also like i said before i'm not the most confident or bold so
01:28:21.960
what was the question i have lost track of the conversation well i'll just ask a new one
01:28:27.840
um agree or disagree if a guy doesn't have the balls to approach you that's not the type of guy
01:28:33.480
you want anyway yeah i mean like if again i'm clueless if you don't show clear signs you're attracted
01:28:41.960
to me i don't know at all uh i'll just think you're a real good pal i would agree i'm pretty
01:28:50.420
clueless too i disagree like if i'm not immediately noticed sometimes yeah i disagree i mean i don't
01:28:58.400
think like especially in like a bar setting like there's a lot going on like he doesn't have to
01:29:03.440
automatically see me but i can definitely kind of introduce myself and then he'll see me for the
01:29:09.180
rest of the night you know i also disagree i feel like oh like the lead up to it is like really fun
01:29:15.420
so just like oh are they going to talk to me are they not going to talk to me and then like if they
01:29:19.260
do if they don't i also disagree and i agree with you girls i think that having someone come on like
01:29:26.080
that's just it's nice okay it is it validates a little bit you know all right interesting okay
01:29:34.280
so um i think your dog is digging for something there it was a dead body um so if i recall
01:29:44.980
every single one of you said said you were feminists considered yourself feminists yeah not
01:29:51.940
hensley i don't think i said anything about it you might have omitted on that one yeah i didn't
01:29:56.900
really acknowledge it too much you two though said yes i'm like i feel like the a more like
01:30:04.560
modern definition of feminism it's kind of like aligning with a political party completely and
01:30:09.880
totally it's if you're a feminist you're expected to be certain things that if you do disagree with
01:30:15.860
someone on something they're going to tell you you're not that anymore i agree with that but like
01:30:20.920
i'm a feminist by definition of you know men are equal to women well isn't that just egalitarianism
01:30:26.980
but so i mean feminism i think is different than being an egalitarian or egalitarian uh well an
01:30:38.960
egalitarian truly believes that men and women are equal and they fight for equality between men and
01:30:45.980
women but feminism that's something different i feel like maybe it's morphed into something
01:30:53.120
different but generally on the basis of being men and women are equal like raising women to the
01:30:58.480
standard of what they should be which is equal to a man from where it used to be was yeah so so
01:31:02.880
feminism feminism is essentially women's advocacy yeah i don't consider it seeking equality
01:31:10.200
you want to come in on this go ahead uh no i just it's different entire like they're different
01:31:17.760
concepts entirely uh i feel like feminism itself is such a nebulous weird term um that's kind of
01:31:25.780
become meaningless thanks to uh terminally online twitter weirdos uh but uh there's one group here
01:31:34.680
that needs advocating for and there's one that doesn't what can you which one uh woman uh i think
01:31:41.240
i disagree men absolutely need to be advocated for in certain areas yes but which areas also supports
01:31:49.780
men no it doesn't it does no it doesn't it's about dismantling toxic masculinity uh which hurts men
01:31:56.740
just as much as it hurts women there's no such thing as toxic masculinity there's just right it's
01:32:01.540
it's called masculinity whoa oh no there's there's just there's toxic people there's no such thing
01:32:09.020
as there's absolutely toxic masculinity is there such thing as toxic femininity yes yes absolutely god
01:32:15.480
i don't i don't see the point in making it a gendered term i people are just toxic masculinity
01:32:23.020
there's egalitarianism and then there's equity sorry you were talking no go for it i like please
01:32:27.720
please please go for it uh yeah there's uh like egalitarians it's like everybody say you have
01:32:34.780
like a one foot tall person a two foot tall person and a three foot tall person and you give them all
01:32:39.880
the same size box to see a baseball game over a fence i'm taking this from an image macro so i've seen
01:32:45.120
it i know what you're talking about uh equity is everyone gets boxes high enough to see over the fence
01:32:51.420
and i mean that's that's reducing a very complex egalitarianism is everyone gets the same size
01:32:58.840
box i mean i know the image you're talking about that's reducing a very complex issue to a very
01:33:05.580
sort of base level but it doesn't is it wrong because that's what egalitarianism is
01:33:12.380
well you're talking about equity so there's equality of opportunity and equality of outcome
01:33:19.040
so i don't believe in equality of outcome but i do believe in equality of opportunity
01:33:24.040
so equality of outcome would be if equality of outcome is you just you set up society so everyone
01:33:32.800
gets the same outcome but that doesn't take into consideration that people have different
01:33:36.760
personality traits and they have different uh competency so and equality of outcome is
01:33:43.780
frankly impossible that's very true so i think on average men aren't dying because they can't get
01:33:48.800
life-saving medical procedures actually what men aren't dying because they're they can't get
01:33:54.940
life-saving medical procedures are well are we talking about covid because actually men were more
01:34:00.340
impacted no we're talking about abortion roe v wade yeah we're talking about roe v well men don't have any
01:34:05.460
uh reproductive rights to begin with so he's got it uh they do but we don't have to talk about abortion
01:34:14.340
um i'm i'm well okay i'm not gonna go in there but uh hot button issue uh so next question no we can
01:34:26.480
no it's good it's good it's it's fun for uh for the viewers it's good debate um wait so you said that
01:34:32.420
men don't need advocacy uh no i didn't say men don't need advocacy i they don't need play that
01:34:38.820
back as much i think men actually need more advocacy hot take that's a hot take i'm because
01:34:47.000
like men's mental health has been men's mental health has been but that's because of again toxic
01:34:52.280
masculinity which is pushing down your emotions there's no such thing as toxic i was raised as
01:34:56.800
the sun in my family there's just toxicity but i don't see the point in gendering these terms i mean
01:35:02.000
what why not just call toxic behavior toxic behavior why because because toxic masculinity is
01:35:08.320
is going to be a divisive masculinity isn't is wonderful no it's not specific to men
01:35:15.060
masculine and feminine behaviors aren't necessarily specific to the gender you would think they would
01:35:21.480
be assigned to uh and those mine like i know plenty of like old school women who are like women should
01:35:30.320
be in the kitchen uh and women men should be the breadwinners whatever and that's also a toxically
01:35:38.220
masculine behavior so traditional gender norms you think that's toxic i don't think so uh too many
01:35:45.080
like like depends on how uh hard line you are about enforcing them yeah and i don't enforcing them i
01:35:52.500
don't think that should be enforced i think women should absolutely have the choice if they want to
01:35:56.240
work and pursue a career absolutely but if a woman also wants to be a housewife i don't think that
01:36:02.480
should be shamed either yeah no neither should be shamed but there are i have plenty of friends with
01:36:08.280
mother-in-laws from hell who what's that have to do with uh because they're the one who like they have
01:36:14.280
my friends have careers they're women with careers and jobs and like they do that and they like hire a
01:36:19.680
nanny or sometimes their husband stays at home and he's a stay-at-home dad and their mother-in-laws
01:36:25.200
are just nightmares about it shaming their sons for staying home and taking care of their children
01:36:31.140
calling it babysitting raising your own kid is not babysitting uh and then shaming the mothers for
01:36:36.820
working uh that is also a toxically masculine trait uh that is why what does masculinity have to do
01:36:45.780
because it's a masculine can't it just be toxic uh i mean you it could but you'd be just ignoring
01:36:53.720
the definitions of most socio-political terms that's just toxic like that that that mother-in-law is just
01:37:02.280
toxic straight toxic doesn't matter like whether she's a female or male like just but there is
01:37:07.040
such thing as toxic femininity just not in this example that you're setting up for her so i feel
01:37:11.760
like you're putting her in a poor straw man position where it's like toxic femininity i think of like
01:37:18.400
the vixen the woman who uses sex specifically just to like or very feminine features to like be a damsel
01:37:24.720
in distress to like get like men or money or certain things like that and like toxic masculinity where it's
01:37:31.320
like you know like the gym boy the testosterone that we need to play football we need to do all
01:37:36.420
i don't think that's toxic i mean it can be though can you agree to a certain extent because it's all
01:37:42.380
a guy wanting to play football is toxic can i get an example how that could be toxic i'm i just i'm just
01:37:47.140
curious how could that be toxic well i'm saying in their own levels like um like a man just being like
01:37:53.160
i need to be in this male position because like i'm a man so i need to be strong and i need to be buff
01:37:59.700
and i need to be into these very male things to prove my masculinity that's i think that's desirable
01:38:06.000
i think that's admirable i don't think that's toxic i think that that's just like you know like
01:38:11.240
males have these traits and maybe you know like i don't know personally i don't think that's toxic
01:38:16.340
that could have just been how they've grown up like their dad is just like oh you have to do this
01:38:19.400
this and this that could be something they're super into i have a lot of guy friends i have a lot
01:38:23.300
of football friends who are super into that and that's kind of how their life is because that's
01:38:27.800
the future that they see for themselves they want to go d1 they want to do all this stuff
01:38:32.180
and that is what their life surrounds themselves as because that is their future i get that you know
01:38:38.740
just like my future is like this so i surround myself around this i don't necessarily see that
01:38:42.900
as toxic they can go about it in a toxic way absolutely but i don't see that as toxic but what
01:38:48.620
about what we were saying like with earlier with mental health how like men like oh yeah men's mental
01:38:53.140
health is a lot like i don't know statistics but like women's mental health is taken care of much
01:38:57.820
more than men's for a reason i don't understand and i think a lot of it is because again the word
01:39:03.300
toxic masculinity is like they feel like they can't open up to be exactly yeah men don't and again i have
01:39:08.600
a lot of guy friends but they don't feel the need like when they have issues it takes a while to get
01:39:13.480
them to open up about it because men feel like they can't open up about it and when they do open up
01:39:17.540
about it to their other guy friends it takes a minute and they don't even open up about it to
01:39:22.360
like oh i'm struggling with this this and this they're just like yeah man rough day like that's
01:39:26.200
it so men's mental health is a lot lower talked about than females and it's really hard on them
01:39:33.720
isn't it like and again i don't know the stats but isn't it like men's suicide is a higher rating than
01:39:39.320
women men's successful suicide attempts are much higher than women however women do attempt suicide
01:39:45.420
much more than men and that's because men tend to choose things like guns and uh knives whereas
01:39:52.580
women tend to choose things like pills i got my that makes it i got my master's in psychology
01:39:56.920
okay so this i'm not arguing that i'm just saying like i don't know a lot more than a gun does okay
01:40:02.660
so i'm just gonna come in really quick so just on this topic so i'm not entirely sure if that's
01:40:07.780
actually true so as far as women attempt suicide more i'm not even sure if that's true
01:40:14.980
men certainly commit suicide more i believe 80 successfully the vast majority of suicides
01:40:20.660
are committed by men the vast majority of homeless are are men the vast majority of workplace deaths
01:40:25.480
are men uh the vast majority of uh military deaths are men i mean there's there's ways in which both men
01:40:32.380
and women are disadvantaged but i mean to say that there's one group that needs no advocacy
01:40:39.820
and another group that needs a bunch of advocacy i think you can make a very strong argument that
01:40:45.660
it's it's actually in today's day and age men actually need more advocacy advocacy there's more
01:40:51.060
women going to college for example that's another one that's a choice men aren't supported as much too
01:40:57.260
keep in mind yeah but wait so hold on just so i'm clear when it comes to university back when there
01:41:02.720
was a underrepresentation of women in university it was the patriarchy and and uh sexism but now that
01:41:10.820
there's more women in college it's just men's choices well what are the men doing are they going
01:41:15.660
to trade school that's a perfectly respectable thing in fact i personally as a person who went
01:41:20.280
into a graduate level education think that trade school is much more respectable than a college
01:41:24.340
education in most uh instances you're making more money you're not drowning in debt and you have a
01:41:29.800
job that's actually useful uh and you're not working retail to pay off a master's degree
01:41:34.220
uh my my degree has nothing to do with what i do again i am a software tester and i got my degree
01:41:41.040
in psychology i want to just open this up to the other people on the panel if they want to come in
01:41:45.240
on anything kayla do you have any any take on this about just just what or just what we've been
01:41:50.660
talking about um well i have a few thoughts on toxic masculinity and i think that you mean it
01:41:56.900
doesn't exist i think to the microphone please it oh sorry i think that it does exist for certain
01:42:04.140
people um for example if we have so growing up in texas there's a lot of a man should do this and a
01:42:12.200
woman should do that and while i personally stand by gender norms i like them for my relationships um i
01:42:19.720
don't believe everyone should be that way but i have seen people be raised by men who say you have
01:42:26.900
to do this you have to do that and their kids turn out very depressed because you know maybe you have
01:42:33.600
a child who's transgender and they feel they cannot be that way because of the norms pushed on to them
01:42:41.560
that's just how i feel about that i don't think it applies to everyone though um i mean it's a
01:42:51.440
complicated issue but like i mean it's gonna be a pretty boring answer but where i pretty much stand
01:42:55.560
is both sides face so much hardship and like different varying degrees different ways but like
01:43:01.900
the hardest part about finding a solution to any of it is literally like conversations being pit against
01:43:07.640
each other like oh one group faces more one group faces less no no no no when in reality it's like
01:43:12.300
you know there's toxicity on like femininity and there's toxicity in masculinity but i i think toxicity
01:43:18.900
knows no gender yeah men can be toxic women can be toxic dogs can be toxic this dog's good though
01:43:27.740
this dog's chilling but but uh what let me just finish this thought here so um but actually go ahead
01:43:35.060
uh can i turn my attention our attention to the comment who thinks this incredibly cheap wig is
01:43:39.100
real hair uh bro get it together please maybe it's just it might be a very uh convincing wig you know
01:43:49.600
it's it was twenty dollars very very convincing okay uh gabby do you have a take on this um i agree
01:43:56.700
with her like every i mean both genders have like their hardships so yeah i mean i'm also honestly i i'm
01:44:03.040
i think the whole this war between the genders is a psyop i think it's a psyop if you turn men
01:44:12.440
against women blacks against whites democrats against republic republicans gay gay people against straight
01:44:18.540
people then you start ignoring the one that really matters which is class so i i think class is kind
01:44:26.440
of it's really just that's why you have major corporations amazon uh pretty much every single
01:44:34.680
corporation is buying into all the woke stuff because it's very token it's very easy and it keeps
01:44:39.900
people divided um but then you have amazon which they'll paint an airplane rainbow but as soon as you
01:44:49.060
try to unionize you just try to start a union they're gonna bust that shit up so trying to unionize
01:44:56.060
is pretty much the most left-leaning thing you can do but anyways i'm kind of derailing that into a
01:45:01.080
political conversation i'll sign off on that i co-sign that it's a psyop actually it's 100% a psyop
01:45:06.440
absolutely start dividing people and then the there there's not going to be class uh unity between the
01:45:13.680
poor i'll say this and this might be controversial i think that a poor woman and a poor man have far
01:45:22.220
more in common than does a rich woman that then a rich woman has with a poor woman you're absolutely
01:45:30.220
right so i think it's a psyop i think it's just keeping us distracted anyways i'm getting almost
01:45:36.680
conspiracy conspiracy theory here we'll bring it back um so okay where was i um what were we talking
01:45:46.380
about it started with feminism yeah it started with feminism now we're at psyops oh right okay
01:45:52.660
we're talking about feminism so um i kind of like what you said though about um like bringing up how
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like people were raised differently like in my family like i was raised like i have a younger sister
01:46:07.260
and a younger brother and me and my sister would be painting our nails and my little brother wanted to
01:46:11.720
paint his nails and my mom's like okay or like sorry and then we were always like like raised like
01:46:18.420
my parents like from a young age my parents didn't care like we don't care if you're like gay straight
01:46:21.780
whatever as long as you're a good person and nice human we don't care and that made a huge difference
01:46:27.580
for us growing up like my little brother always had the same opportunities like painting nails like we
01:46:33.120
dyed our hair and he dyed his hair pink with us you know like i think it doesn't yeah i think it
01:46:37.840
definitely does like make a difference mentally where you come from as well definitely word okay
01:46:45.360
chris can you pull up the twitch we got shout out the twitch homies and we're gonna wrap up here in
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about 10 15 minutes okay twitch all right guys this is our uh twitch activity feed if you want to go
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chats here guys if you want get your super chats in we're gonna wrap up here in about um five ten
01:47:19.260
minutes uh we have mr mike davis who is in a car because he's always on the go this is his last
01:47:27.680
message before he's leaving mike davis five dollar super chat thank you man brian last thing when's the
01:47:32.520
next show so that i can dismantle the next pack of females so we're gonna do a show tuesday next show
01:47:42.120
will be tuesday and then we'll be live again on thursday too so uh tuesday thursday 7 p.m pacific
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time but we won't do the show if you're not there mr davis yeah the show's not happening if you're
01:47:51.900
not there so we need you in the chat pronto no bull spit no bull spit with a five dollar super chat hey
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man thank you much appreciated men never open up because no one actually cares and if they do open
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up to someone they're looked as they're looked as weak or will be used against them in the future
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uh facts okay go to therapy no bull spit uh anyone you guys want to go around the panel really quick
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on this one thoughts on this one yeah go to therapy he needs therapy or just go to therapy
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if you think that you're going to be looked down upon or it's going to be used against you go to
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therapy you have doctor patient confidentiality and they don't well okay there are bad therapists
01:48:31.940
out there i'm not gonna lie and pretend there's not i've had plenty uh but like yeah like find a
01:48:38.620
therapist that works for you they won't look down on you uh i know it's a huge fear for men that you
01:48:44.840
will be seen as weak and will be looked down upon if you express your feelings uh women have a lot
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of similar insecurities they deal with and eventually as you get older you do the thing you're afraid to
01:48:56.200
do like and no bull spits uh example like express your feelings and it turns out more often than not
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uh if you are around someone who you trust it's gonna turn out okay
01:49:09.920
uh my therapist is also the crackhead at 7-eleven chris it's okay damn savage i mean i don't
01:49:19.820
necessarily agree that like the straightforward answer is oh just go to therapy because a lot
01:49:24.160
of people cannot afford a therapy or there's it just doesn't really work with them so we'll go to
01:49:28.440
7-eleven no sometimes it's hard if you tell a guy hey just go to therapy like you know it doesn't
01:49:34.700
either doesn't work with them or they cannot afford it there's a lot of financial hardships that go with
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it there's a lot of bad ones yeah i don't think also i don't think men like when they have opened
01:49:45.620
up to their partner that shit doesn't go good what do you mean go good and that's toxic femininity we
01:49:54.140
have an example toxic femininity yeah what do you mean like a woman telling a man that he can't yeah
01:50:00.060
like thinking you're weak for expressing your emotions like i mean if you're a woman and you
01:50:06.080
think your partner's weak for having feelings you suck just if you're anyone sorry and you feel like
01:50:12.280
your partner's weak for having feelings like it's hard opening up to someone especially like in a
01:50:17.120
new relationship being like hey babe like this is my situation like i remember my last relationship my
01:50:22.140
first time having a panic attack that was really hard to try it and like be like oh yeah by the way
01:50:26.460
this is my situation like it's hard opening up in general and like even more so for guys like how he
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said like they have this fear of having to be like masculine and have to have like kind of like
01:50:35.680
hold down the floor like it's really hard for guys more so than women i i feel like personally because
01:50:41.780
you know when we're with our girlfriends we talk about all the time when they're with their guys they
01:50:45.080
don't talk about that type of stuff they feel like you know they don't and women are more allowed to
01:50:50.180
be like emotional that's what people have painted us as is emotional creatures and that in the comments
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they said if you are a cop or a military and your employer finds out you lose your job that is true
01:51:01.000
if a cop goes to therapy for what he has seen he will lose his job that's not actually true my brother
01:51:07.280
is a police i'm in a military family wait your brother's a police officer yes and in texas okay and so
01:51:15.120
the laws may be different versus you know um but i do know that the police force wait does have an issue
01:51:23.820
with that i have a question because sometimes after like if there's a use of force incident like
01:51:28.340
a shooting don't they sometimes offer the police officer to offer therapy but then they also can
01:51:34.680
say that you are not allowed to work for a certain amount of time and things like that okay like you
01:51:39.960
cannot you can no longer go on those types of like jobs like you can't respond to those things
01:51:46.480
anymore huh okay interesting and i don't know if it's like that across the united states but
01:51:51.540
i would assume yeah it might vary from state to state and department to department christy did
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you have anything um about which subject yeah which uh what what was it oh the super chat um oh yeah
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like men never open up this one well i think a lot of people go through that like they think that
01:52:12.460
opening up is like weak and it is more accepted for girls to do that but that's a case of like i'm
01:52:18.020
really using like toxic masculinity toxic like femininity but it just like boils down to toxic
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older gender norms and stuff like that as an overall like oh like you know women are more
01:52:30.280
emotional which may be true but men aren't allowed to be emotional and whatever but it literally just
01:52:35.800
boils down to like both sides perpetrating like this stereotype like a toxic woman being like no you
01:52:41.440
can't but a lot of people blame it on our hormones too like they make jokes about like oh it must be
01:52:47.280
her time of the month but then like men don't have those kind of jokes available like you know
01:52:52.420
what i mean kind of like it's stupid they don't have a scapegoat no they don't it's like oh yeah
01:52:55.860
it's my time you know you can't do that but when it's us like yeah well i mean it is 2022 i mean
01:53:00.600
apparently apparently men can get pregnant to each their own that's news to me okay so uh hensley did
01:53:08.080
you want to come in on this or no okay yeah i mean honestly my advice to guys is if you have a
01:53:14.660
girlfriend like i don't know she wants don't don't share don't share your problems with your
01:53:21.740
girlfriend because it's just not i mean i disagree i don't think you're not with the right person if
01:53:26.320
you can't share your problems with them exactly and i think it opens up the dialogue to where they
01:53:30.980
feel more comfortable sharing with you they're gonna lose given that i honestly they're gonna lose
01:53:36.080
attraction for you no if you know if they lose attraction for you for having feelings they are
01:53:42.900
not the one cut them off but also talk to your homies more have give bro hugs here's the thing
01:53:49.040
like men don't often share their feelings because they end up just not all the time but they end up
01:53:56.640
just upsetting their girlfriend wife whatever and then they're left to console their girlfriend or wife
01:54:04.120
wife on her feelings because of how his feelings made her feel wrap your head around that one i i
01:54:11.140
completely understand you say because i used to be that type of girlfriend like if my boyfriend's
01:54:14.920
upset obviously i did something wrong oh my god they're upset because like i'm not doing enough or
01:54:19.340
whatever but that just comes from growing as a person and growing in a relationship but you have to
01:54:23.300
learn that like you know it's not my fault they're feeling this way and stuff like that and that's just
01:54:27.740
like growth as a person i don't know for me with like my the last guy that i was seeing i got frustrated
01:54:34.280
because he wouldn't open up to me about stuff and i could tell he was like seriously going through it
01:54:38.480
but he wouldn't talk to me and then once he finally did talk to me about stuff it almost like opened up
01:54:43.200
like a new door of like trust and attraction because he felt comfortable talking to me yeah that's
01:54:49.380
where i want to ask gabby what do you think gabby i definitely believe that a guy should be able to
01:54:53.680
talk to their girl about their feelings and if not if she doesn't really accept it or she turns it
01:54:59.020
like on herself and feels bad about it then she's not the one can i ask you a quick i want to go around
01:55:04.800
the table on this because it's kind of related if you were dating a guy and somehow he got into a fight
01:55:12.100
with someone else say another guy and you saw him get his fucking ass whooped is that gonna be a
01:55:20.720
turnoff for you that happened definitely not that happened to you my my most recent ex got jumped and
01:55:26.860
he broke his jaw or his jaw got broken by like five guys holy shit jesus and this is when we were first
01:55:32.160
initially talking can we can we get a a do you want like a little story quick story quick story it was
01:55:39.260
halloween and we weren't paying attention to the guys whose house it was and we brought hella guys and
01:55:43.420
then we were leaving they got mad threw rocks at the car the guys in the car got mad and then
01:55:48.040
like it was like 10 guys on like four of my friends and so your ex-boyfriend got his jaw smashed
01:55:53.240
yeah but this is when we were still in the talking phase like we weren't even like oh like a fish or
01:55:57.140
anything and like it was like i met his parents like literally earlier that day and i'm like calling
01:56:01.880
him at the hospital i'm like hey you met his parents because of the fight no before early in that day i
01:56:06.400
like went to his house for the first time and i was and you you've been hanging out how much like
01:56:11.140
three months oh okay okay fine sure and it was like a friend group it's like high school you know
01:56:15.120
right yeah that makes sense but and then i was like with him through all his recovery and he was
01:56:19.700
like you know you can like i know we're just hooking up you can like leave if you want i totally
01:56:22.860
understand like we're still friends it's cool and i was kind of like i like stick around like you can't
01:56:28.940
really talk or anything so just hang out yeah damn can we get an f in the chat for her ex-boyfriend
01:56:35.580
that yeah sorry about fucking sorry about his jaw jesus kayla you had something it actually
01:56:42.360
happened in isla vista oh my god oh my god um so isla vista dangerous place del faia we were there
01:56:51.200
for a party and he lived there um at the time and so there was a party going on they had a barricade
01:56:57.380
whatever and so we're just trying to get up to his apartment and we're like hey um we need to get up
01:57:01.920
to the apartment and i was like he lives here and they were like every bitch says that and i was
01:57:05.980
like no like he lives here like we can show you proof if you need that but this is his house like
01:57:10.840
you shouldn't need that um and so i'm kind of like yelling at the guy like i'm getting a little bit loud
01:57:15.280
and the guy at the barricade pushed me and called me a bitch and so my boyfriend at the time punched
01:57:23.120
him across the face and then got like i don't how many how many people it was like five guys it was
01:57:27.780
like five guys so you got pushed he punched the guy and then they jumped him right i actually had
01:57:34.840
that same situation kind of not like a boyfriend it was just like a random fat guy that was like
01:57:39.300
protective of me and it was a random fat guy frat no it was at my own house what's what's him being
01:57:46.560
fat has to do um okay no it was at my own it was at my own house on he was deltopia well because
01:57:52.460
some guy was getting like mouthy protective of you yeah yeah he's trying to get some no white
01:57:57.420
night no no like i was like trying to like get out my own house and like a guy was like getting
01:58:01.920
mouthy and i like he kind of got aggressive and i like pushed him back and then he literally like
01:58:05.940
this guy hit me in the face like he slapped my face and i was like and i was like ready to like
01:58:09.720
push back and then this guy one of the frat guys like goes like yo and like grabbed him through
01:58:14.960
my he's like you don't do that to a female and i was like it was kind of like i appreciated that
01:58:18.600
because you know like i shouldn't have to like as a female like you don't hit in the face too i was
01:58:23.720
like that threw me back and then before i could do anything he handled it and i was like i don't
01:58:27.260
even know what the guy's name still wait so kayla the guy who you you were dating him for a bit
01:58:32.300
yeah okay we were dating for like a year no it was like eight months at that time okay and
01:58:42.020
he was coming to your defense i feel like that's maybe right did i lose attraction he got his ass
01:58:47.840
kicked right yes badly yes it wasn't a fair uh maybe that's yeah and it was like that i there's
01:58:55.100
still like blood on the sidewalk yeah the sidewalk still has like his blood on it it's so gross is
01:58:58.820
this recent no it was like a year ago i know it was like six months ago yeah hensley um it's a turn
01:59:07.300
off for me i gotta say like if if you see your guy get his ass kicked yeah it's a turn off
01:59:14.500
yeah okay that's that's kind of what i was suggesting yeah gabby i already answered this
01:59:22.400
but no it's not a turn off not a turn off um we'd both be swinging together so like if we're going
01:59:27.940
down it's a bonding activity i think if the guy started it i like that i like that my roommate and
01:59:33.980
i got into a picture if the guy's like walking all up he's like i'm gonna beat your ass out of
01:59:37.820
nowhere and then gets kicked then it's like that's that's pretty gross okay got it but if it's
01:59:43.520
unprompted or if it's like he didn't prompt it then like whatever do we uh is that all the super
01:59:48.280
chats i think there's just one from steven krug steven krug with the five dollar super chat good to
01:59:53.720
see you again man thank you for tuning in dogs are too good for you for humans that's true facts
02:00:00.120
facts all right uh let's um actually before we pull up the clip our little ending clip here uh
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i want to open it up to you guys if you have a final thought or a question either for me or for
02:00:15.460
someone else on the panel or the panel uh why don't we start with you if you want a final thought
02:00:20.860
or question i've never had a thought in my life thank you facts okay i want to ask you who should
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initiate going back to our initial question who should initiate because i don't think you answered
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that who who should initiate i think it would be great if women initiated i would invite it uh but
02:00:41.600
it's very rare i think if you were to ask most men they'd maybe been hit on once twice the guy's
02:00:49.880
really exceptionally attractive maybe more but i mean i would say even an average girl is
02:00:55.740
running circles around even like a top tier guy in terms of the attention that they're getting
02:01:03.780
from the opposite sex uh so i mean who should initiate probably i mean if you want to live in reality i
02:01:17.960
probably men should initiate if they want to get any because if men don't initiate if they don't
02:01:27.640
make the first move then they're never going to get any most men if you take most men you put them
02:01:35.900
in the nightclub you put them in a party you put them in the bar they could they'll stand there the
02:01:40.380
entire night and not one person will come up and talk to them they will stand there alone the entire
02:01:44.980
night you put a a girl even an average looking girl someone's she's going to get attention a guy's
02:01:52.880
going to approach her so as a guy you have to if you don't that's the end of your gene pool buddy um
02:02:00.160
so yeah i mean we just men just have to live in reality you gotta we have to take initiative so who
02:02:07.360
should initiate probably men because if you're a man and your expectation is i'm gonna wait for a girl to
02:02:12.480
initiate if you think women should initiate you're gonna be very lonely so that's my take
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um i had a thought final final thought or question that's you want me to come back to you
02:02:28.420
maybe okay sydney how many girls have initiated with you how many girls have initiated with me
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yeah because you said like an average guy gets like maybe one or two but like for you i i consider
02:02:39.660
myself fairly average no i'm just i'm just asking i'm just asking like six you went to
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ucsb right six point nine no you didn't no i thought you did okay yeah we had a class maybe
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how many girls have came up to you at a party here well i don't really party okay but how many
02:02:59.160
occasionally i party but i don't go to bars and clubs so i did a little bit when i was younger how
02:03:04.300
many girls have come up to me and like initiated that first move like okay so of the times i've
02:03:08.920
been to bars or nightclubs i went a little bit when i was younger maybe a couple dozen times i feel
02:03:15.300
like that's kind of a lot um at a bar or club never never and i've been probably a couple dozen times to
02:03:25.980
a bar club never been initiated on uh instagram dms that doesn't count well i mean it's very low um
02:03:35.660
and also i'm out there on social media too so you'd think it'd actually be higher um i've had
02:03:41.920
two or three girls in the 10 years i've been doing social media dm me no way 10 or sorry yeah 10 years
02:03:50.120
two or three girls and not in santa barbara either some chicken chicago a chicken munch like canada or
02:03:56.180
some shit and one chicken oregon so it's rough as a dude like girls really aren't unless you're like
02:04:04.740
really good looking or your social status is you know you got serious clout um yeah girls just really
02:04:12.240
aren't initiating like that uh and then i'm trying to think on dating apps a little bit higher
02:04:20.000
um i do get it a little more girls that will initiate on dating apps but
02:04:25.140
okay hinge for example like your channel on dating apps do i put my channel like like whatever yeah
02:04:33.940
you're like no i don't put my link i mentioned like if it asks if there's an occupation field i'll say
02:04:39.500
that i'm a content creator or i do uh social media or i'm you i'm a youtuber um but i i don't put my
02:04:47.300
link i'll put my instagram in my stuff so yeah i honestly i don't think i want women looking at my
02:04:55.580
content just because i don't know it's i'd rather meet a girl and have her judge me in person than
02:05:03.580
my persona that i've created online uh so uh so yeah uh but dating apps definitely i would say
02:05:13.440
a little a little bit more but like on hinge fuck
02:05:21.020
i'll get maybe one like a week maybe one like a week and but i'm sending likes out and i'll get
02:05:31.040
i'll get a decent amount of matches when i'm initiating on hinge but them liking me first it's
02:05:37.640
one week so yeah tinder and okay i haven't been on tinder in a long time on tinder
02:05:44.720
probably like occasionally they might message first if we match but mostly i would have to message first
02:05:54.160
so my experience has been overwhelmingly like i have to initiate so that's been my experience
02:06:04.680
okay christy i don't have any questions nothing no final thought think of right now okay me neither
02:06:12.340
nothing oh man hensley back to you all right really quick chris um once you yeah guys we're
02:06:19.560
gonna wrap up in five minutes if you want to do last minute super chat chris can you pull up twitch
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02:06:27.980
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02:06:37.800
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02:06:44.200
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slash whatever chris can you attempt by the way guys in chat we've had some issues when we were trying
02:07:09.020
to play or react to a video uh it's been stuttering it's been stuttering there's been lag so we're
02:07:15.940
going to be trying a new way to uh play a video and i'm just realizing we should have zoomed this
02:07:22.520
camera in a bit more because it could definitely be a bit tighter but anyways that's something for
02:07:26.280
next time um we're going to try to play this can you guys when the video is playing if it is lagging
02:07:33.280
or stuttering one in chat if it's lagging or stuttering all right chris go ahead and uh play it
02:07:40.440
all right do i uh come over here you got a window you got a window over here it's in the window mode
02:07:46.860
and then i think yep and then oh you got to start from the beginning and then press play okay before
02:07:53.380
you play it uh girls we're going to have you react to this clip this is our little you know fun little
02:07:58.640
clip just to end end the show go ahead chris here's a question here's a serious question
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okay ladies if you didn't have a vagina like say it was a terrible train accident right and the
02:08:12.580
doctor was like we have to remove your pussy right away or you're gonna die
02:08:18.620
how would you keep your man past you get a two month guilty i can't leave the bitch right away
02:08:28.280
because she just lost her pussy in the train accident can't just walk right out on her
02:08:35.820
how would you keep your man past that if you didn't have a vagina pause it
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okay we're gonna go around the table one you bring it back chris uh kayla
02:08:52.180
um you know i've never thought about that i've never even considered that but now that i'm
02:09:01.020
thinking i would hope that in the event that that happened i was married or something so i could pull
02:09:08.000
the like you married me because you loved me right you know what i mean i think that's what i would pull
02:09:15.380
and if he if he left whatever but he was asking what would you what would you do to keep your man
02:09:21.220
what are some things given the circumstances terrible train accident but are there certain
02:09:29.160
things because okay intercourse is off the table that's gone but i'm still amazing sure of course
02:09:37.580
yeah we know that okay that's been established throughout the show um but are there things
02:09:44.140
things that you would do maybe change flowers okay christy like maybe he got into a train accident
02:09:53.920
after me just out of the blue and he lost his penis yeah like a hand for a hand you know so there's
02:09:59.540
just okay there's the dog is going up the stairs okay can you uh call him back
02:10:06.140
so okay um but do you want to actually answer the question oh um i actually don't know i literally
02:10:18.080
have not thought about this like maybe like okay sydney go ahead i don't even know how to answer this
02:10:24.520
honestly i have no commentary on this i mean give us something okay i mean there's other ways
02:10:34.180
to like she said flowers are like there's other ways to show love your partner and that's how i'm
02:10:41.080
gonna end that ensley he could fuck other people but also we would have to get like an exotic animal
02:10:50.640
together i mean because there's no stds that way though too yeah no i'd be chilling i'd be like
02:10:55.780
yeah you go have fun i'm come back and give me cuddles and we can take care of our pet tiger
02:11:00.520
and then yeah i kind of like that gabby sex is not what makes up an entire relationship but i do
02:11:09.120
agree that it is an important part of a relationship so i mean i would try to do my best to still please
02:11:16.300
him without a vagina but yeah what and when you say please him like like blowjob okay yeah okay sure
02:11:26.880
uh one i didn't buy the strap-on harness for decoration wait so repeat that i didn't buy the
02:11:33.120
strap-on harness for decoration uh nor did i buy the custom dual density silicone uh phallus that goes
02:11:40.980
with it for decoration two there's two holes so now we're just on an equal playing field
02:11:46.500
that is so good that was a lot of detail that was a lot of detail oh that i left out so much oh that's
02:11:55.960
okay okay uh chris why don't you play the rest of the clip but yeah they did they definitely did not
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take the bait on this one wow nothing you can talk you can talk
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oh asshole okay great you see what i'm saying now i've been getting pussy bean the whole show right
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but but i give women the opportunity to say i'm gonna make myself worth more but you just classified
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yourself as a series of holes but but you know i'm
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i'm supposed to treat you special but you're just a bunch of holes for yourself
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no one said learn how to play xbox learn how to play pool tell better stories get another
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okay rest in peace patrice o'neill the legend the goat rest in peace
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okay yeah you guys did not um take the bait on that one but uh
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but uh okay so uh yeah that's uh that's pretty much it i know you guys kind of didn't have
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did you have anything hensley fine thought my i guess my final thought if i had to come up with
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one is just like it's kind of funny that like men keep their notifications on for dating apps
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like they get they're like oh i got a match on tinder i'm like at 2 a.m
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that's swiping time wait do you mean when you're dating them or just in no just like guys in general
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like they're always like they're like oh i matched with this girl it's like and girls
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match with like 20 guys and they're like one of these might get a date but like y'all if y'all get
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one match you're like you're planning the date you're planning the wedding you're like already
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asking for information wow damn okay and did you guys final thought i don't think
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my brain is like off right now yeah we're okay got it i i will say for emotions and not talking
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about it with your girlfriends it's because us guys save it for the locker room i will say that
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word word okay cool so uh we're gonna wrap up thank you guys for tuning in tonight
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you could have been doing anything else but you're here with me appreciate that we will be
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live again tuesday at 7 p.m potentially maybe sunday if i uh can uh wrangle an interview uh
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so yeah we'll be live again with the dating show tuesday at 7 p.m pacific i want to thank the
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lovely panel for coming and giving their deep philosophical insights on the topics of dating
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and relationships thank you guys for watching and uh chris if you want to go wide here
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and uh we will uh see you next time all right see you guys